What if Sunset didn't even have a motive? If Celestia was right in the first part of Equestria Girls Sunset became evil because she was envy of Twilight being princess . If rainboom didn't happen Twilight won't became a princess and Sunset won't be envy.
that's an excellent point! I didn't think of that, but even still, I don't think sunset would have settled for the human world. her rebellion from princess Celestia happened before the timeline split off, so i think it's only a matter of time before she would have tried something else.
@RaiAE' Thank you, just thought of it lol. It could be a possibility that in at least one of those alternate timelines another pony became a princess (a pony that isn’t Twilight).
@Sawtooth Waves you should a monthly seires that would shown how future events would had happend in these timelines and how whoud they had reacted to future threats like tierk,storm king,day breaker,sunset shimmer ,cozy ect and to see if these timelines where doom for the start
Great theory, but Celestia saw that sunset was angry and Celestia didn’t give her the right to become an Alicorn or anything super special, because at the beginning she always wanted more power. So she may have returned to fight Celestia. But if it weren’t for twilight she probably never even would have went to the other dimension so I guess this theory is possible.
@Sawtooth Waves What if she pretty much became twilight? Like the spark happened to her and she became the new element of magic. Nobody really knows the cause of the last timeline but maybe it had something to do with her not being as suited for the job?
@RaiAE' There's no history throughout the whole show, yet twilight's crown is an element of harmony so I think twilight's has much more purpose, and celestia's crown was just for a show
Plus the element of magic wasn't unveiled... not even to Celestia, until when Twilight and her new-found friends went after Nightmare Moon in the beginning of the first season! So if the Mane Six hadn't met or even just hadn't become friends, it's possible that the physical element of magic wouldn't exist in the first place.
Edit: I should have finished the vid first lol
Also I think the wasteland world would be that which all the villains teamed up on their own accord. Perhaps they even managed to free Grogar???
The only other possibility is maybe Celestia actually turned into Daybreaker in this timeline and scorched the planet to death.
2:25 I think that unknown timeline might have been Starlight’s timeline. How? I’ll explained it. Since the mane six never came together, there wouldn’t be any barriers for Starlight’s cutie mark philosophy back when she ruled that village. Her plan was to make all of Equestria give up their cutie mark, and she could’ve spread to other areas of Equestria. She could’ve cast a spell to her village in order to help her take over one area. After that, she would unite all those who lost their cutie mark as part of her army. It kept getting larger.
With the staff of sameness, she could’ve secretly have took away the princesses’ cutie marks, and probably used all of the cutie marks she got to make herself powerful and stronger. Without anyone stopping her, she would’ve caused even more damage to everyone and maybe even got to a fight with Celestia and Luna, and since she’s good with magic, she would’ve caused a lot of destruction. And eventually defeating them. And leading up to a wasteland.
Sunset Thursday that you want to destroy Equestria so maybe we are without Twilight Meet Me Maybe that's fine wine maybe she might destroy Equestria I think I'm I agree on that
@Sawtooth Waves See the thing is, without twilight and friends, the element of magic is still lost to Equestria. Without the element of magic, there is no demon sunset.
There's also the possibility that she can't get back or denied to get the Element of Magic, I mean would a Villain just let the most destructive weapon in Equestria out in the open to be stolen and used against them? That's literally Villain 101, and then there's the fact that she couldn't rule Equestria because there's still other villains left, it took the Elements of Harmony to turn Discord to Stone and in the timeline where Discord rules (All hail Discord!) He just toyed with 2 Overpowered Alicorn for his fetish or whatever you call that Sex Show
Well, we don't know if she didn't have someone else who in these alternate timelines could replace Twilight. However, I think that there's a strong possibility she did. Y'all forget Moondancer so easily. Being as studious, but without Twilight there to end up holding her back, she would be a PERFECT FIT for Princess of Friendship. We don't know how she got into the school, so she might have done something as great as Twilight did and that might have been one of the things to lead them to being friends in the first place. If not, Moondancer probably would have still had several chances to prove her worth. You can't deny she's an awful lot like Twilight while being completely different.
@Sawtooth Waves Maybe not, if the rainboom was needed for Twilight to hatch Spike and get in, then no rainboom equals no jelousy... I do have to say, though, that that can of worm could remain in the shelve and happen latter... which would mean, most likely, the portal being close, which would lead us to: what would Sunset do? Surely pretend nothing was happen so nobody would cut her access to the library until it was too late, because one of the things Celestia has always struck me as is the type to trust in her juniors and let them find the anwers on their one.
I have yet to see the whole MLP series, but I couldn't help but thinking to the Xmass special when Twilight tell that storie about the ponny who made a spell to erase a holiday ruining a complete mess of winter... so, if that sort of thing could happen in MLP real life (I assume it does), then the answers seem likely to be related, no to inter dimensional stuff, but to the weather, so I see two paths: 1 Sunset wants to make Celestia useless by making her power over the sun obsolete and going terribly wrong... or the time travieling going hand in hand with your old theory of Nightmare Celestia taking over, making an eternal day have terrible weather concequences starting from 1.000 years before cannon starts, which could lead to the eventual dead of all things ponny in present cannon time.
Sunset didn't became envious of Twilight. According to the official comic story she became arrogant and impatient. Princess Celestia had Sunset punished because at a certain point she rebelled against Princess Celestia. Sad to lost her protege which she banned from her personal study program, she later found a new pupil in the form of Twilight Sparkle who did abide to the rules of Celestia. Sunset and Twilight are similar to a certain point. They are both excellent and talented unicorns and at first they both were loners and did not have this desire to make friends. But they started to differ when Sunset became impatient and arrogant while Twilight stayed humble and had this patience.
@Sawtooth Waves You make a good point, but in the alternate universes, there are still many other magical items that could enhance Sunset's magical power. I mean, there's magic that turned Cozy Glow into an Alicorn. This is a long stretch, but hear me out. In the alternate Universe starring Sunset, she would need a new reason to become evil, as she wouldn't have envy for twilight, because twilight never succeeded. Say, in the future, Sunset is Celestia's student. Her best student. Her magic power is powerful, and she's mastered almost every known magic. She decides she wants to learn more powerful magic. Such as how powerful Alicorn magic is. She confronts Celestia, asking if there was any way to turn a normal pony into an Alicorn. Celestia avoids the question, but Sunset's nagging won't stop. Celestia gets angry and sends Sunset to study. Afterwards, Celestia talks to her sister, worried that Sunset is growing greedy. While they are talking, Sunset is listening. Sunset grows angry, thinking her mentor doesn't trust her, even though she's studied hard. And right before she confronts them, they go somewhere Sunset never knew existed. A vault filled with magical items and forbidden spells. Sunset,even angrier her mentor would hide such power, plots to suck the magic out of the items and memorize the spells. She would become stronger than Celestia could imagine, and with her new magic try and overthrow Celestia. She would Succeed. She would take the spell that put Nightmare Moon in the moon for 1000 years, and enhance it to last for generations. She would banish Luna to the Moon, and Celestia to the sun. She'd enslave the ponies of equestria, but after years she's struggling. The magic she took was getting too hard to control. She tried to cast a spell to help, but ended up releasing all the dark magic, wiping the lands to baren...
Uhh no Sunset would think of herself, Sunset became bad BEFORE Twilight became an allicorn. Celestia just never brought it up so when she came again she had to say. Celestia had many students for many reasons.
SOMETIMES PRINCESSES MAKE MISTAKES! like how Celestia said "omg i dont get how allicorns can be born in eqeustria" but still does not mean that she was not born an allicorn. Cadence may have been the first official canon allicorn that had a kid so... Anyways, Celestia would not have Sunset as her student after Twilight became an allicorn, kinda... not... very... nice... but would still teach her. but still, Celestia may have been trying to get somepony to look after Equestria and after she had Twilight, she did not need anypony else because Twilight's talent is friendship and will rule with her friends like cadence with her family/husband and child. Ugh I have so much theories (I know its many, but I like this better.)
@Alexandra Adamczyk this channel is only mlp because- well, can't YOU figure that out on your own? sure, stuff like cartoon apocalypse does multiple shows, but this is unlike that. ponies know only of mlp and as intended have not found the other shows yet. really? i did think of that before but his channel is only mlp for a reason. ugh I think I know why you guys cant figure this stuff out. btw he replies "What's a Hasbro?" on a comment. i wouldn't know what Hasbro was either. Edit: dont get mad guys whats up with that?
HELLO DONT MISUNDERSTAND THIS: Celestia was trying to get sompony to take over her and her sister's thrones for when they retire. Celestia was doing it alone because she was seen more by the ponies, she rules the day and does all that other stuff. Celestia was trying to find many ponies like hope, sunset, and finally, Twilight Sparkle, who was perfect, finally. Sunset was not angry from the start and learned about the mirror unlike other ponies (and the other ones not to see the mirror for this reason,) and sunset saw her chance to gain power, and took it. after then twilight became allicorn but twi was not allicorn when sunset ran away to other realm, ok as you can see, I have a lot to say. if you have any questions pls reply.
What if the last time line is one where starlight won, if she made every pony the same and then killed all the resources by making progress. This would explain the one tree and the darkness of the landscape. Suit or just pack of nutrients
So it's grogar's future or daybreaker's future maybe daybreaker and nightmare moon's power collided almost destroying the planet (if you watch dragon ball super u will know wut I mean)
@Saj Khan now this is just my guess But maybe they're in a different school in a different town, I like to think it's just coincidence that they haven't found their counterparts yet But that's just a theory, a pony theory
@IndoDINO Youtube celestia turning to daybreaker can make sense because at this point of time maybe celestia got jealous of luna, like on that one video by sawtooth. Maybe the reason she hasn't broken in the original timeline is because the manesix had celestia and celestia had them especially twilight.
@Saj Khan I think that there is no human sunset, maybe pony sunset killed human sunset, but with starlight, well... you know how pony starlight was obscure? Well human starlight is probably somewhere else.
@RaiAE' It could because Celestia and Luna's crowns were conjoined in Twilight's corination. This means that it could have some magic that makes Twilight able to move the Sun and Moon. If Sunset did try to steal princess Celestia's crown, moving the sun could not do her much good.
Yes, but she specifically ended her studies with Celestia because she wanted power, and quickly. While in the human world, Sunset would’ve plotted to steal the elements. When she comes out of the mirror with a plan set in place, she would’ve been able to steal the 5 elements of harmony, which will give her power. What she wanted. Still, without the 6th element, who again, can only be revealed with the magic of friendship, she probably wouldn’t have been able to defeat anypony, not even the villain that was probably ruling at that time.
@Book Thoughts why did twilight become the princess of friendship? She discovered and created the magic of friendship. Without Twilight, there would’ve been no magic of friendship, and I’m sure even though MoonDancer is studious, she wouldn’t have discovered the magic of friendship. As you had said yourself, we don’t know how or even if she would’ve been able to enter the school. She questioned how Twilight was inside her book, and somepony with a lot of magic (which you need to get in the school in the first place) wouldn’t have asked Twi how she was inside her book. Plus, the reason Twi almost was never able to discover the magic of friendship was because she was studious and wanted to be alone all the time so she could study. MoonDancer doesn’t fit THAT well.
@Anita M. as I had said... Sunset left her studies with Celstia because she wanted power, and quickly. So there’s still a possibility she just went for the 5 elements she WAS able to get, and either not bother trying to get the 6th, or try but not succeed. Though your theory I like.
@Robin again, she didn’t become evil because of Twilight. She became evil because she had a lust for power, which she wanted to obtain quickly, and not study with Celestia to gain it slowly. This is why when Twi appeared along with the 6th element, she decided to steal the 6th element to finally feed her hunger for power. And since Sunset’s studies didn’t last for long, she didn’t learn of the artifacts herself or asked Celestia about alicorns and how to create them or such... and even if this all did happen, if Sunset couldn’t control the magic after a lot of years, she wouldn’t even be able to control it in the first place. When your power becomes uncontrollable, it normally happens after a few minutes of having that power inside you, not after a thousand or so years. If that is so, Sunset would have to be an already powerful unicorn to control that power for such a long time, but if she was that, she wouldn’t want alicorn power in the first place, and I’m tired of writing this so please tell me if you agree or not and we can discuss it together.
In the comment I wrote, Sunset had already been Celestia's Student for many years. And I did mis-type, because where I said twilight was her source of her evil. What I meant was that bc Twilight didn't become Celestia's student, She was content, as she was gaining the power she wanted so badly. When Celestia could teach her no more, she wondered why Celestia wouldn't make her an Alicorn so she could have more power, which she desired. So when going to confront her, she found the room. The magical overload of powers after a couple thousand years or so is because she took power from the artifacts little at a time, once each day or so. Eventually she took to much.
And as for the "not gain it slowly", she learned the most magic the fastest as she was 'Celestia's Best Student'. Because of this was the case, THATS why she wondered why Celestia wouldn't make her an Alicorn.
@Robin and even then Celestia, being the smart alicorn she is, would’ve noticed overtime that she’s taking the power from the artifacts, and would’ve banished Sunset to Tartarus or something
@Jimmy Orozco And that's why as soon as she snuck in and took the power from the artifacts, she edited the spell that Celestia used to banish Luna to the Moon, and use it against Celestia and Luna. One in the Sun, one in the Moon. Of course, this might not work, but Thats why its just a theory.
@Robin and well apart from the artifact room, what artifacts, apart from the elements of harmony, do we know exist, and have enough power to completely change a spell for evil intentions?
@Jimmy Orozco I FINALLY FOUND IT! it took forever of me searching in the wrong places, but its actually not In the season's. Its in a not very well known movie called "My Little Pony: Forgotten Friendship" it takes place in the human world of mlp but Sunset travels to the pony world, where we're shown the room.
@Jimmy Orozco In this movie, when Sunset comes to the pony world, they travel to the Canterlot Library and go to a "restricted section" which is hidden. It hides books with great knowledge, ancient spells, and Dangerous spells, etc.
@Robin ok first of all, it isn't a movie its a 40 minute not-so-short short, second of all, I've watched it, third of all, if Sunset were to steal the... well... spells, not artifacts, she would have to go in there after they leave, and to me it seems Celestia and Luna's magic are needed to lift their respective books and get in. And well there aren't really any artifacts in there. Sure, absorbing magic to become a demon and take over the world is EZ, but learning spells and reading books is just extra work that Sunset doesn't wanna go do. As I had said, she wanted power, and quickly. Reading and learning spells is what she had already been doing and it would've been a waste of her time. There is where I think she would've tried stealing the elements of harmony.
@Jimmy Orozco Ok, first addressing the "only books in restricted section". Twilight cried out the names of some artifacts, and when in shock said something like " so many unread books and ancient artifacts". So even though we don't SEE them, they're still there. Of course we can't CONFIRM their existence, or if they're even magical, but once again, thats why it's a theory. Second of all, I didn't know what else to call it. Movie, Episode, whatever. Third of all, Sunset could already have casted an invisibility spell, as I'm sure that exists. Sneaking in behind the princesses. Fourth of all, maybe her desire was held off while being a student. We never really see how quickly she became greedy for magic. Fifth of all, the elements of magic would do nothing without Twilight. They would still be just rocks. Sixth of all, I know my "of alls" don't line up with urs. Sorry.
@Robin she was probably greedy from the start, getting in the school just to become powerful. Second yes idk what to call it either though it is a 40 minute long thing so yeah sort of a movie. Third yes maybe the artifacts are magical. Fourth yeah but Tia would’ve known that she was gonna try that so she would’ve set a spell to see invisible ponies, maybe that’s a thing too. Fifth idk if invisibly spells exist. We never rlly see anypony use them in the show. sixth, yeah that’s try but we saw Tia simply take them out of the stone spheres. Though doing that with the element of magic would be hard, I’m sure that with how much she learned with Tia would’ve helped get the others. And seventh, my ideas don’t line up with yours either D:
@Jimmy Orozco Ok, give me a sec to grasp all the conversation comments we have.
Ok. Here we go. First, when she first got into the school to many years of studying, she would probably have a completely different idea on how powerful she wanted to be. Second, Tia wouldnt have known anyone knew it existed, other than herself and Luna. Because of this, she wouldn't waste her power on a spell for no reason. Third of all, idk if an invisibility spell exists either, theres too much magic. Fourth of all, thats true. She did just, suck then out if the stones. BUT say she couldn't get to them on time. Sunset snuck in, when Luna and Tia left, she took some power, yada yada yada, ive written the rest in some comment. Fifth, my brains starting to hurt. Never have I thought I would be having a conversation about MLP to see if a theory was even possible. But here we are. And I'm honestly not ashamed.
@Jimmy Orozco honestly it was really relieving with all these times that we have to be at home all the time and have no socialisation since B beginning of covid so thank you as well
@Sawtooth Waves I have a video idea. What if you talk on the 7th element of harmony? Dr. Wolf has made a couple of videos on it, but it’s basically that there’s always been a missing element. If you look on the season 1 premiere, when the mane six find the elements in the castle of the two sisters, there’s already 6 elements, but when pinkie pie counts them there’s only 5. That one element was left out. Plus, in season 2 ‘secret of my excess,’ in the scene in which twilight finds out about spike’s greed, you can see that in his pile of things he collected there is that one element again. It’s just like how the elements used to be, a stone. It’s a stone but it’s still the 7th element of harmony.
When the castle appeared from the chest, there were 7 thrones. And yet again, in the season 7 Finale when we got introduced to the pillars in the background story, there were 6 colors, each representing the seed they planted. But you can see a 7th one, meaning that there were 7 elements.
Wait I remember that When Luna And celesta Combinded THEYRE Crowns To twilight What if The elements Magic Had Some off the crown Magic and Sunset Used The crown to try to destroy Twilight And THEYRE Friend s That means The Princesses are Powerless Withput THEYRE Crowns
Actually Sunset became evil long before Twilight became Celestia's new apprentice. Celestia learned from her mistakes when teaching Sunset that if she wanted to make sure Twilight didn't become evil Twilight would need to learn about the magic of friendship which is why Celestia sent Twilight to Ponyville in the first place, it's because Celestia found the ponies that would represent the other Elements of Harmony because she knew that since she used the Elements to seal her sister away in the moon for 1000 years that the Elements would no longer work for her because she was only connected to 3 of the elements, not all of them so she had to find new element barers. Although Celestia taking on Twilight as her new apprentice after Sunset might not have even happened because Twilight didn't get her cutie mark until during the rainboom, if the rainboom never happened and Sunset never became "evil" or in this case power hungry like she did, Celestia might have had the chance to introduce the magic of friendship to Sunset instead of Twilight, and even if the other mane five weren't all in ponyville after the rainboom that never happened I'm sure Celestia would have eventually found other element barers that could work in the original 5's place.
Can u plese read my coment. I think thet i have a good point and i olso want to know what do u think about it. So if u so this plase answer on my coment
Yes she couldn’t get the element of magic but she could get the other 5 because Look how powerful midnight sparkle was and she had five elements and the portal magic so is sunset have that magic she will be more powerful than the Demon sunset
Sunset became evil but not because of Twilight. In Celestia's words " However when she did not get what she wanted as quickly as she liked she turned cruel and dishonest". So according to what Celestia said Sunset was dissatisfied with her studies so she abandoned them.
2 likes
Randy Rios Cruz2021-03-19 13:28:48 (edited 2021-03-19 13:30:12 )
@pearlene grace Who is older? Sunset or Starlight?
@Randy Rios Cruz Sunset because she began her studies with Celestia before Twilight. This shows that Sunset is a bit older than Twilight and Twilight and Starlight are around the same age
Alright everyone we had the song Scourge's part a version of Flurry's part where Scourge became a warrior angel please hold the applause we have a place inside the sun for this
If the mane six never got together, then the elements wouldn't have been found, if the elements didn't get found, then Sunset wouldn't have gotten the crown and it's magic in the first place so none of that would've happened. She would still be the popular bully of the school.
@Sawtooth Waves sawtooth my theori is far fetch but what if sunset never discovered the human dimansion here's why because the rainboom not only effected the mane 6 it also effected other ponies like sunburst he got his cutie mark so there is a possibilaty that sunset got her cutie mark too because of the rainboom soo if starlight stopped the rainboom from happening sunset might never even went to magic school or pass the test to get in soo she might never became celestia's student in the first place soo at that point she never discovered the human dimansion sooo nothing happend in the human dimansion and nothing magical even a tiny bit effected the human dimansion soo thats my theori sorry it is soo long but i hope you read this and signing off bro hoof
@RaiAE' That was one thing I didn't get about the finale. In The Ending of the End, Twilight said, "now that my crown's been fitted..." and then in The Last Problem, we see Celestia and Luna merge their crowns together to make Twilight's. Did they merge them before hand to make sure it would fit, then separate them again until the coronation?
Yeah that's kind of a big thing of one out. Without the main 6th The Elements of Harmony wouldn't have even gone through the portal. Oh wait now watching the entire video you thought of that already
@{ Bl●●d moon gamer } even if they did just for the sake of entertaining the idea sunset would have just been beaten by celesta and the other alicorns and royal army. And would have ether been reformed through Celestia or imprisoned so rather way she looses and it really wouldn't have mattered.
@{ Bl●●d moon gamer } mind you that it's impossible for any of that to happen like you said, but even if it did there is no way she could have beaten celestia and a the other alicorns at the time even without twilight's help. and her army of zombies, royal guard is prosumable a whole army all over the country so ya surrounded on all sides much.... she would have needed to hypnotize an entire state to even stand a chance and honestly mind control magic has been broken before so ya.
I almost feel bad for sunset she was so bitter and felt so worthless that she went rouge to prove herself. what kind of family life did she have to feel like she needed to go so far to prove she had value.
@{ Bl●●d moon gamer } I know sorry I have a bad habit of taking an idea and running my mouth off. sorry I can't help it once I get an idea I share it without thinking.
@{ Bl●●d moon gamer } thanks I apreciate it. still I mean what I said feel free to send a message I quite like this show and it would be fun to talk about it.
is it possible she became like a alternative twilight maybe she even had her own main six a version where sunset was the main element of magic i know she didn't have the same bond in any movies with any other ponys but what if she had and never knew because twilight was the one in the light in the original timeline i for one would love to see a timeline where sunset and her own little team of ponys were the main six
@RaiAE' that wouldn't have resulted in her turning into a demon because there's no guarantee that Celestia has any power. The human world won't be endangered like we saw it - Sunset may not be able to bring magic in the human world. Wait, this won't happen at all. Celestia and Luna's chamber must be more guarded that any other. She would be discovered and perhaps held prisoner in Equestria.
@nupur goel Magic wouldn't have even come in the human world, leaving human Twilight with no reasons to study magic - which will prevent Midnight Sparkle.
@nupur goel sunset wouldn't have taken magic into the human world if the Element of Magic wasn't there. Studying magic made Twilight turn into midnight sparkle , but if there wasn't any magic in the human world - she won't have a reason to become Midnight Sparkle.
As I understood it, Sunset was upset, because she was meant to become a princess but for Sunset, the process was too slow. So she ran away, into the portal and took over the school.
@IndoDINO Youtube But, dude, in the Beginning of Season 1, pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💜, winged-dragon🐉 Spike♂️(🐲 + 🔥🟢)💚💜, and their new-found friends💑 defeated Nightmare Moon♀️(🦄🌌🕊)🖤.
@The Weirdo Channel 😰 But, sweetheart, Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💜 IS the Spirit🌌 of Magic🌠. P.S, it's NOT the Element💎 of Magic🌌 without Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💜 😰
@Robin Oh yeah. The "My Little Pony🦄: Equestria Girls👩: Forgotten🚫 Friendship💑" special💝. I don't like forgotten friendships💑, only happy😊 friendships👩❤️👩
@Galaxy Moonglow Don't worry. Human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ brought magic🌠 to the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫 in the first place. Human👩 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️ is one the Canterlot High School🏫 students. And, human👩 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️, Canterlot High🏫's Owlowiscious♂️🦉🤎, and dog🐶 Spike♂️🐶💚💜 are part of the adventurous🧭 Equestria Girls👩
@Sawtooth Waves can I add something on to to your point of your theory point what if she decided to team up with Sombra cozy glow grogar (A.K.A. Discord) Queen Chrysalis and her changelings the storm King and if the Dazzlings would have won the battle of the bands that time Aria blaze Adagio dazzle and sonata dusk then we would really have problems then we would have to see an alternative version of princess Celestia and Luna say we all the help we can get the Equestria is under attack badly we need all the help we can get like right away they are not allowed to gossip about school at all it's going to be all fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight until they finally go away permanently
@Sawtooth Waves hi sawtooth I know this video is two years old but I have a new theory on starlight glimmers alternate timelines, more specifically the barren wasteland one, we all know that sunset shimmer could never have been the cause of that timeline you proved that quite wonderfully, however there is one scenario that could.....remember starlights dream that she had after she switched Celestia and Luna's cutie marks? The one where Celestia and Luna became Daybreaker and nightmare moon respectively and started fighting each other? What if that actually happened in that reality? Let me paint the picture: Princess Celestia gets angry at her sister Luna for what ever reason or is corrupted by an outside foe like say Sombra or some other hidden foe, loses control of her magic and in the middle of the the night turns into Daybreaker, after the transformation she raises the sun and refuses to lower it in a reverse nightmare moon fashion Luna upon seeing her sister out of control tries to reason with her and is forced to fight refusing to involve twilight and the mane 6 and the elements of harmony due to her experience with the elements and she doesn't want to seal her sister away, soon all of Equestria start taking sides in the fight, some support the solar empress Daybreaker, and some support the lunar princess, Princess Luna the fighting is long and arduous but neither side is willing to give, sooner or later Luna start to get weaker, her mental fortitude gone, she hears the voice of nightmare moon telling her that the only way she can beat Daybreaker is by using her power, weakened by the fight she succumbs and becomes nightmare moon once again and start fighting each other once more, the armies of each princess upon seeing the devastation wrought by the fighting decide to band together to save the princesses but ultimately fail, Daybreaker ultimately wins the fight against her sister but ultimately loses when she consumed by her own power in a huge explosion incinerating everything resulting in the barren wasteland you see in starlight glimmers alternate timelines.
I always headcanoned that the final timeline is a timeline in which every villain led their attacks, causing blow after blow after blow to equestria. Their plans may have even clashed with eachother and caused battles between dictators. Sombra, crysalis, and nightmare moon, all after eachothers' heads? All while flim and flam are busy destroying the local ecosystem? THAT could truly leave the world a wasteland.
@unripe THE Berrby She would do anything for her ponies,unicorns and pegasus in another way she can activite the elmments of harmony without the main six but if you look to the other episodes there are like the main six and celestia night mare
I think it does not fit. First, it would be really hard to gett ALL cutie marks of EQUESTRIA Second, why is the place all burn and dead then? When a pony not have a cutie mark they still alive and still have magic, even a little
The idea of being a Sunset tineline fits more because The place can be burn by Sunset since she was a demon who probably has powers related to fire
It looks like another Tirek timeline since when he was in his full form the sky was dark and red (since no one was controlling the sky) and he has fire related power
@oOf But if Twilight didn't become Princess, Sunset wouldn't be able to steal the crown. Without cutie Marks, no pony would be able to grow food and no pony cold control the weather. And that's how it could have happeneed. She could use ponies she already "brainwashed" to help her collect all cutie Marks.
@miriam oquendo mederos interesting. Sorry the grammar in your first was off so it wasn’t really clear if you meant an actual nightmare or a person. It’s interesting but I personally don’t think that’s right. The one reason is the fact that I doubt twilight and sunset could get into celestial nightmares.
@miriam oquendo mederos Ahh I understand now as well! Glad you had more comments to elaborate lol... Yea, it is a nice theory at least. If it could or couldn't happen in the actual show...
I think you are right, especially cause it was a Starlight focused episode. As well as the fact that the crown wouldn’t exist if Twilight had never found the sixth element
@oOf imagine if EVERY talents were removed. Weather ponies like Rainbow Dash wouldn't be able stop storms. Dangerous animals would attack everyone without ponies like Flutter Shy to calm them. Ponies like Apple Jack specialized in agriculture helped the ground to be fertile. Plus, she would have also take Magic from the princesses, so no sun, no moon and so no Cadance to stop Sombra. Magic would be gone. That's actually an end where no one could have stopped Tyrek, Sombra, Chrysalis and many more. And who isn't telling us she stopped at ponies?? She probably has enough magic abilities to take dragons, griffins or even changelings abilities!
We can actually see she isn't just taking talents but also abilities in flying, magic or strength. They're all equal. Just ponies from our world.
What never made sense to me I'm this episode was if Starlight stopped the sonic rainboom from happening then why didn't Twilight also lose her cutie mark and her alicorn powers, since if she failed her entrance exam and was not accepted into Celestia's school, then she would never have become a princess and therefore never gotten her wings, so Twilight should have become just another unicorn battling against Starlight Glimmer minus her wings and possibly cutie mark.
The rest of her friends didn't get their cutie marks because the sonic rainboom was effectively prevented.
My theory is that the barren wasteland was caused by an all-out battle and someone used a spell of annihilation or Armageddon and there is believed to be no life remaining and it might have been caused by some kind of advanced weapon like a nuke of some sort, if the ponies or others ever figured out that kind of technology.
But it probably was simply an all out war that killed everyone.
I like to think its a few villains combined timeline where a few of them fought this devastating battle that lasted for quite a while ruining the ability for ponies and other creature to peacefully care for the land and eventually nobody came out on top either in one strike it killed all the villains in the fight but it was too late for the land or a drought or fire had killed everyone
As twilight says “and what your doing leads here” to starlight makes me think that the villain that succeeds is starlight glimmer it’s just we don’t see her in that timeline.
@vikk biff The way I see it is that Twilight kept her natural form as an Alicorn for 2 reasons, one of which affected Starlight as well. The first, exclusive to Twilight, is that she had a direct link to the Cutie Map, which also ignored the shifts in the timeline because it's world-level magic that would always self correct and stand as a warning that things weren't as they should be. The second reason that also applied to Starlight being unaffected by the changing timelines is that she wasn't FROM those timelines. She was sent to them by the Time Travel spell when it's origin point changed due to Starlight meddling. Twilight and Starlight were from what could be called the Prime Timeline, the one that exists without extra-temporal interference. And since the other timelines are a product of extra-temporal interference by a pony from the Prime Timeline, the Prime Timeline has to happen, meaning Prime Twighlight and Starlight have to exist as they do, and by casting the Time Travel spell they've placed themselves outside of that little loop of causation in a way that lets them see and experience the changes they cause. It's like that episode in the show was a knot in the rope of time, and what Starlight was doing was pulling individual threads loose to fray the knot, creating tiny, dramatic offshoots that go nowhere because they can't exist without the main rope. Like the short time travel in the 3rd Harry Potter book and movie, they just reaffirmed what was already set to happen.
Chrysaliss too cuz her plan relies on cadence and shining which would've never happened if twilight never got rain BOOMED which was because of rainbow and which is was caused the mane 6 to get there cutie mark and defeat queen chrysaliss in season 2
Have all of you guys even watched the episode that Sawtooth is talking about Cutie Re Mark If the villains have to rely on the Rainboom then how would the alternate timelines came to be Do you think that the villains are so stupid that they don’t have any back up plans
@Jennifer Smith Midnight🌃🕛 Sparkle♀️ is one of the Forces☠ of Evil💀. But don't worry, human👩 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️ is one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇. Goodness😇 versus Evil😈
@bquncy I hate👿 Tirek♂️ as one of the Forces☠ of Evil💀. But don't worry, I like the good😇-hearted💛 Cozy Glow♀️(🦄 + 🦄🌠🕊)[🛡♟💖 + 🛡🔴⚪🟣, ♟🟣, 💖](👩🏫😇💞)💖 better 😇. She's one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇, she's a Member of the Cutie Mark Crusaders, she's part of the adventurous🧭 Mane 7, and she's the Spirit🌌 of the Element💎(👑) of Caring💖(😇)
I've got a pretty good idea about what caused the barren wasteland timeline. This is it - We saw the everfree forest take over at the beginning of season 4, kidnapping Luna and Celestia in the process. All this happened due to the Tree of Harmony dying due to the absence of the elements. The Mane 6 restored the elements to the tree, bringing the forest under control. But, in the alternate timeline, where the Rainboom never happened, the elements were still in their original forms at the Castle of the Two Sisters. So, as the Tree of Harmony died due to the absence of the elements, the forest took over, destroying Ponyville in the process. But, it didn't stop there. As it went farther, with no pony to stop it, it destroyed everything that stood in its path. Later, as time went on, the soil lost its fertility (as we see when dry sand gets blown away from Twilight's hoof in season 5. This usually happens when the soil is infertile and completely eroded), killing the remaining plants and weeds. And so, that's how Equestria was turned into a barren wasteland in the final timeline. I have no idea whether this makes any sense but it does to me (I'm only 13).
Edit: Or maybe I'm just overthinking it. Edit 2: omg thank you so much for the likes!
That was my thought, too! The wasteland makes a lot of sense as the result of the Tree of Harmony dying + nopony around like the Main 6 who could embody the spirits of the elements and keep them alive.
The fact that there seems to be no structure or life left in that timeline at all, just barren emptiness, makes me think it had to have been caused by some kind of fundamental, undiscriminating, mindless force and not just your standard villain takeover. Unless it was multiple villains who started fighting amongst themselves and inadvertantly destroyed the world that way, but still ... Villains usually have a motive behind what they do -- power, conquest, revenge, etc. -- and can reason and make decisions like who to attack and who to spare. What would be the point of just wiping out everything? There'd be nopony to command, nopony to enslave, nopony to hurt, and no food or resources to sustain you, either. If you don't die yourself, you'd be the ruler of a dead world, and where's the fun in that?
Yours is a good idea. Mine is equally as disturbing. Nuclear warfare by the US government after they accidentally found the portal. Look throught history and tell me if there was any such thing as a peaceful first encounter. Hint: you'd be wasting your time trying to find one. It doesn't exist.
its posable but daybraker could have and would have burnd down the everfree forest but the everfree forest would atleast put up a fite and probly chock its enameas and banish the spiret of harmony to limbo or somthing.
Ok how about this: that empty wasteland of a timeline wasn’t caused by anyone in particular but it was caused by the absence of something. The absence of the elements of harmony and the main six. What if because they weren’t there, equestria gave up hope and disassembled due to something bad happening. Or a villain or two or many conquered it and then conquered each other out of anger or a hunger for power. Or because of something else. I want to leave it open to possibilities but I think that’s what happened. It was the absence of something and not the appearance of a new thing. I hope you like my theory!
Oh maybe due to there not being the 6th element that fulfills the power there was destruction because the villains were trying to look for that power and never got it it would have never existed leaving that gap and that gap wouldve played a major part in society and bc it wasnt there nothing was ever fulfilled nor of had peace in equestria leaving everywhere to be destroyed and destruction
What if the tree of harmony was damaged due to the element of magic turning evil which either caused equestria to fall apart or let something free that was stopped from breaking out by the tree of harmony?
@Roxanne Wolf no not really. All of those timelines had different things that happened at different times. Meaning that in some of those timelines, even without the main Six, they were able to survive through some of the problems. So my theory is still plausible. I know it’s very generic and straight forward, but it also has a lot of possibilities which I like.
@pearlene grace I do agree with the fact that they gave up hope, but just because they gave up hope, does not mean they would vanish. There would be some trace of them left behind.
For the Barren Wasteland: I think it could’ve been a timeline where Celestia snapped. She was tired being the high-and-mighty ruler. She was also mad at the ponies, because she had to protect them, which caused her to banish her sister to the moon. This initially broke Celestia, so...she lost her sanity. Becoming Daybreaker out of the hate and loss...she enslaved Equestria. Daybreaker decided to release Nightmare Moon, but soon saw she tried to take over, so...in a heartbreaking twist...Daybreaker kills Nightmare Moon. This causes her to lose her sanity even more, because she had to protect the ponies once again, so she had to kill her own sister, and she decided to punish the ponies and Equestria...by burning the land to the ground.
@Alethea Syna San Jose True. Although, I don’t think Daybreaker banishing Nightmare Moon again would’ve caused the land to be burned, so-to-speak. Still, it’s just a theory.
@Jennifer Smith I meant in Equestria, where they weren’t banished.
6 likes
Jennifer Smith2021-03-26 14:42:46 (edited 2021-03-26 14:43:46 )
@Garth Davis The way I imagine it, Equestria would turn out very similar to the future from 'A Hearth's Warming Tail', since the windigos would feed off of the fighting that the sirens would cause.
It makes sense. They were banished by Starswirl long before the sonic rainboom, so that wouldn't change. Without the sonic rainboom the mane 6 would never meet, there would be no crown for Sunset to steal, and no Equesetrian magic in the human world for Adagio to notice and come to Canterlot High. So every Equestria Girls villain wouldn't exist (as a villain) to be or not be defeated
Oh yeah that makes sense!! Because without night the land would overheat which would cause droughts and famines which would turn equestria into a wasteland
Same, I imagine it like: Starlight never became Twilights Student so never helped Luna and Celestia fix their problems so in the end Celestia felt neglected and changed to Daybreaker
Something to remember: the season five finale happens in the same time frame of The Friendship Games where Sci-Twi becomes midnight sparkles and creates a rift through time
I was thinking three things (1) maybe Sunset decided to study the elements of Harmony (as Twilight did before she found them) in hopes of getting the element of magic to help her take over Equestria, and since Sunset used to be friends with the rest of the mane 6 in the human world (aka Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, Apple Jack, Rarity, and Pinkie), and she probably would have put together the pieces and realized that they were the other elements (I mean Sunset is pretty smart), so she decided to stay friends with them in hopes of using them to help her get the elements of the future, basically using them to help her overthrow Equestria and causing that final time line (2) I was also wondering if that final timeline might have been a result of shedemon human Twilight, I mean if the events of the first thing I said occurred but Sunset was stopped, then the magic might have gone back to the human world and the mane 6 would still have their magic, meaning shedemon Twilight could still take their magic at the games and cause those holes in between the human and pony world, possibly causing the holes to get so large making the worlds merge and then inevitable war, chaos, and destruction (3) or the sirens got strong enough in the human world, somehow, and without anyone to stop them they were able to destroy Equestria
Or sunset became a diplomat to the zebra lands but she wasn't a good diplomat and ended up starting a war with the zebras, only to lead to a nuclear fallout. She was in Camelot when the pink cloud began and she made it into the ministry of image only to be killed by the shadowsprites.
@Jennifer Smith Very valid point that I don't believe I thought of before. And although I don't entirely remember what was going through my mind at the time I believe that I was referring to how the sirens made everyone fight with each other so the ponies themselves would be the ones destroying Equestria, not the Sirens themselves. There is most likely holes in this thought tho so please correct me in any way possible or tell me some of your thoughts, I love discussing these things
@Marlhy Murphy true true! although, and my memory is a bit foggy so I might be wrong, but wasn't Sunset Celestia's student before Twilight but Sunset wanted more so she turned cruel and dishonest causing Celestia to like punish Sunset by putting her in the human world or something? Once again I don't remember exactly what it was so I could be entirely wrong
0 likes
Jennifer Smith2021-02-01 00:24:12 (edited 2021-02-01 00:25:07 )
@Rebecca Paiotti Da Silva You actually make a valid point. I never thought of the ponies destroying Equestria, but it's possible. Maybe the windigos could have something to do with it, since they feed on hatred.
I love discussing this stuff too, hence why I watch theory channels like this so much.
@Jennifer Smith ooo the windigos coming back would make a lot of sense!!! But now I’m wondering that if the windigos did come back and they were also feeding off of the ponies hatred would that cause some sort of fight in between the windigos and the sirens or no since the sirens would feed off of making the ponies hate each other and then the windigos would feed off of the hate that the ponies create, kinda like a food chain
@Rebecca Paiotti Da Silva I don't think the sirens and windigos would need to fight each other. After all, the sirens cause fighting and the windigos feed off of it. It's a self sustaining cycle. I think they just co-exist. Not enemies, not friends.
@Jennifer Smith true! Wait so since before Equestria was founded all of the ponies would fight so the windigos came out does that possibly mean that before Equestria the ponies possibly lived in a state similar to that or exactly like that, like the if the sorens are what originally made the ponies fight with each other bringing about the windigos
@Rebecca Paiotti Da Silva I think you're onto something. In "Shadow Play", we actually see the sirens causing ponies to fight, and we don't see any of the three tribes together, just earth ponies, making it likely that this is pre-equestria.
I think the seventh timeline could’ve been the result of Cozy Glow. Her plan was to destroy all magic in equestria, but magic is basically what holds equestria together.
Your theory on sunset not succeeding brings up a good point but I think the last timeline that starlight created with the barren wasteland is quite ambiguous, it could be any other villain apart from the ones we have alr seen like maybe cozy since she would steal all the magic and completely breaking down every thing in EQ, could be daybreaker since she wouldn’t let the sun go down and would just burn everything and everyone into a crisp, or the storm king succeeded in enslaving EQ and took all the magical Essence in EQ hence the barren wasteland and just moved on or it could even be all the villains in that faced each other only to destroy each other by themselves or even the windigos , there are too many possibilities for this one, so it’s hard to say who won in that timeline ( idk bout starlight and teh pony of shadows tho) If sunset was the victor (my take on this sry if it’s too Long I usually write Long thoughts) If sunset rlly did succeed in this timeline she definitely must have done something diff to achieve her motives apart from needing the element of magic , I mean canterlot high’s trip to camp everfree isn’t too far away as well and yes I’m saying she could have just found out the EQ geodes exists and with such malicious intent I wouldn’t be surprised if she beat gloriosa ( can’t remember how to spell her name lmao) when it comes to those geodes and these geodes are basically the elements of harmony except instead of only having one of them , sunset has a full SET(set lol )of them which could possibly grant her more power than she had in the first movie. She would definitely be more than capable of taking on EQ regardless of wether she had an army or not. The key to sunset’s victory is camp everfree since it wasnt affected by twilight at all regardless of which timeline it was so sunset would have found the geodes sooner or later , sawtooth pointed out that sunset could not have gotten a victory but I think otherwise I think he forgot the geodes which is the definite factor in her success imo, we know that sunset is not an idiot she is shown to be smart manipulative and Creative and she isn’t weak by any stretch so who knows she could have taken advantage of the tension between gloriosa and filthy rich and just took teh geodes to dominate her region and then finally try to take over EQ with immense, the alicorns would definitely meet their match especially since star swirl and the pillars are not around and discord hasn’t been reformed . The mane six would not be here and shiny armour would be the only other one who could stand up to demon sunset. If she did succeed then she would have done teh same thing that daybreaker would hypothetically do and drive EQ into a barren waste land and go to new worlds to conquer as some other ppl have theorised chances of this happening could be somewhat high since teh geodes would fall into sunset’s hands anyway ,so that’s what I think could have happened with a victorious sunset time line , the geodes form camp everfree are the key.
I don’t think, she could have gotten the geodes. Yeah she is extremely smart, but to me it seemed like the geodes only existed because of the holt between human and pony world. If I remember correctly, after Friendship games there was a hole at the portal by the destroyed wondercolt statue. In my mind the geodes got there power because of that lacking magic from equestria. And I also think the friendship games wouldn’t have gone like this if Sunset wouldn’t have brought the crown in. She must have brought equestrian magic in the human world so the human mane 6 could have the magic to be stolen by Twilight. I think the only thing from the human world that got over to equestria and could have destroyed it are the sirens. But I don’t think they would have had enough power without equestrian magic to do equestria much damage.
@jane 4 maybe you’re right idk I brought up the geodes only becuz they are kind of like the elements of harmony so I would magic they would be on the same lvl . Idk if the geodes rlly got their magic from the statue, I don’t think it’s confirmed yet. I always assumed that the geodes were always there and was just protected by some magic since sunset said” where did the magic that hid this save come from” so I thought the geodes were alr there. And the magic thing we saw at the end was just for some other stuff. Yea the friendship games is rlly the only hole in my theory, and the ending scene for legend of everfree was rlly confusing.
I would say out of all the doomed timelines, the one with the least casualties would likely be Discord's, he seems more like someone who just wants to have fun in a chaotic fashion, and without Fluttershy to persuade him into being one of the protagonists, he would just be focused on his own amusement though I highly doubt he would cause anyone's death, at least not purposefully. Nightmare Moon, according to the legend of Nightmare Night, would devour others if not given proper tribute and respect. she wouldn't cause as many deaths as Chrysalis, Tirek, nor Sunset, but would still have a higher death toll then Discord.
That last timeline kinda reminds me of how the land looks after it has been burned down. So when I saw it for the first time, the first thing I thought was Day Breaker. Maybe that's a timeline where instead of Luna turning into Nightmare Moon, it was Celestia who did and since Celestia can be considered stronger than Luna, no one would be there to stop her with the Main Six gone.
2:25 I think that unknown timeline might have been Starlight’s timeline. How? I’ll explained it. Since the mane six never came together, there wouldn’t be any barriers for Starlight’s cutie mark philosophy back when she ruled that village. Her plan was to make all of Equestria give up their cutie mark, and she could’ve spread to other areas of Equestria. She could’ve cast a spell to her village in order to help her take over one area. After that, she would unite all those who lost their cutie mark as part of her army. It kept getting larger.
With the staff of sameness, she could’ve secretly have took away the princesses’ cutie marks, and probably used all of the cutie marks she got to make herself powerful and stronger. Without anyone stopping her, she would’ve caused even more damage to everyone and maybe even got to a fight with Celestia and Luna, and since she’s good with magic, she would’ve caused a lot of destruction. And eventually defeating them. With all that power, she would probably destroy Equestria by going crazy about her past or something. And leading up to a wasteland.
@ISABELLE DYER we don't really care how old you are, I'm just saying the show was mad for little girls. But then the bronies appeared and now all genders all ages watch mlp It's not about age... It's about ponies :D
@Sweet_Demonic_ Dreams i’m sorry? can men not like a show. a show has no gender. anyone can like it. that’s like saying a little girl cannot like pokemon cause most of the main characters are men. - coming from a transgender boy (who likes mlp)
@ur mom but they could have gotten together sometime in the process of the timelines, Celestia was still around in the episode where the nightmare moon timeline was, but she could have been dead in that timeline for all we know
I don’t think this is correct. After nightmare moon broke free, due to the lack of the element of harmony she took over and soon made tensions from the ponies rise. This would have brought back discord and he would have just made the world into his playground again. Without the presence of the main 6, he wouldn’t have any reason to trial them and bring all of the villains together in the first place. Due to the fact that the mean 3 wouldn’t have even existed without discord’s need to help the main 6, this theory is improbable.
I think the last time line was almost every villain. Each villain would want to take over and would succeed with the main six gone, but with them gone all the villains wouldn’t team up but instead fight for control over the world leading to destruction
I don't know what would have happened with Sunset, but I think the last possible future might have been one when all the villains tried to rule Equestria by themselves and the might have destroyed each other trying, leaving Equestria without any living creature around (just a theory) 😄
It couldn’t have been sunset because if the mane six didn’t meet they wouldn’t find the elements she could only use the five elements which I doubt would give her as much power as the element of magic but think who spreads chaos (drumroll)discord without the man in six to reform him and maybe celestia and Luna couldn’t stop him
To me, Sunset Shimmer is kind of like Ultron where there would have been a big chance that if things went differently a bit, things would have turned for the worst. Like how Ultron in What if was able to obtain the synthetic body and infinity stone that he wanted, Sunset Shimmer being able to use the full extent of the Element of Magic is the same thing. The way I see it, if she either gets it at the beginning (If Fluttershy never found the tiara) or at the end of the fall formal and if Twilight would be unable to connect with these versions of friends to stop Sunset Shimmer, she would return to Equestria to warn them of this threat. Meanwhile, Sunset Shimmer would use the students of CHS and whoever else and transform them into her own minions to help her conquest of Equestria. Caught by surprise, everypony would face the might of Sunset Shimmer, with the most powerful artifact at her disposal, attack with her army of transformed minions (I think they, along with Sunset Shimmer, would turn to ponies to resemble this world.) Sure, most of them are just normal humans against experienced ponies but since Sunset Shimmer utilizes an artifact with a lot of magic stored inside, who knows the full capabilities that it possesses and what it could do for this army in terms of power. Overwhelmed, Sunset Shimmer would ultimately defeat the Main 6 and the princesses and maybe turn them into her minions as well, along with all of Equestria. Of course, lustful for power, it would be a matter of time before she would find the rest of the elements of harmony and even the tree of harmony and use their magic for her own benefit. Afterward, she would go across the outer borders of Equestria such as the Changeling Kingdom or Seaquestria to get rid of any creature who would stand in her way. Personally, I think they would all fall, especially Discord. Despite his power, Sunset Shimmer would have in store objects that counteract anything he throws, resulting in his defeat or possibly an even worse fate. She wouldn't stop until everyone everywhere would fall down beneath her in praise or defeat. I know that some people say that she would eventually see that Celestia was right about Friendship but don't forget, this is another form that she took similar to what happened to Midnight Sparkle. Inside, Sunset Shimmer could be regretting the choices she is making but can't stop because of the magic flowing through her choice to be like this. And so, Equestria, heck, even the human world would fall beneath her grasp as the ruler of both worlds, with or without anyone to stand in her way.
I personally think the last timeline (the wasteland) was a timeline where Starlight wasn’t defeated. Succeeding in ripping everypony from their special talents, such as farming, cooking or weather control, would eventually result in Equestria becoming a ghost town🙁
What if the one we saw that we don't know about was Daybreaker. I saw your video about how Celestia might have turned into Daybreaker if Luna knew how to dream walk before hand. And as seen in the show Luna,or actually Nightmare Moon escaped the moon. So that means if Daybreaker did happen and got sent to the moon(or sun for all we know) she would have most likely escaped over time. And she wouldn't have been defeated because of Starlight stopping the main six from meeting.
Here’s my theory: After Sunset ran away to the human world(her motive in this timeline unknown), she would go back to the poney world out of curiosity. She then comes across The Castle of Two Sisters, and since she’s the human element of magic, she would’ve accidentally activated the sixth element to appear, getting her the crown. After she does this, she gets her teenage zombies and overthrows Equestria. After a few HUNDRED years or so, Sunset wonders if she can become even more powerful, so she messes around with some magic! What’s the worst that can happen? Both the human and poney world being destroyed, that’s what. You know how poney magic and human magic are complete opposites? Well, it’s my headcannon that using the two magics together, creates an incredibly unstable power and, with Sunset so powerful from the start, she basically exploded everything...And that’s what we see in Starlight’s last timeline(like if u agree)!
And who was the last timeline? The theory was born in my head that this was the future of Starlight Glimer when she managed to steal the cutie marks from everyone.
Two things. First, you are dealing with time travel and as you know, there are loops to connect loops that could make it possible she came across a portal into a different Equestria than the one she left (the many mirror issues from comics). But I think you are right. It is hard to get there.
But on a side note: if she succeeded in human world, she would have taken over Luna and Celestia as well. Assuming those two would be alicorns in the pony world (usual 1:1 correlation), and without now full Mane 6, a super-powered Sunset & two zombie alozonrs...would make for a great storyline.
What if, in a moment of desperation, Celestia decided to turn to her former magical prodigy? With a promise of power if Sunset would stand by Celestia's side and aid her in the war, the princess headed to the human world and approached Sunset? Sunnygal over there would agree of course, planning some devious plan for afterwards. But Sunset's approach was too malicious, to violent, leading to the destruction of the world around her. She scorched equestria, leaving neither good nor evil to remain, and that's the world we saw. A world of nothing where only Sunset remains, ruling like she always wanted.
We could take this to fanfic territory, like if Twilight and Spike had to help the ponies in each timeline before they could go back, and in the last timeline, after so long without anyone else, Sunset detects Starlight and Twilight, and goes to them full of regret for wishing for power. Seeing how her desperate grasps at power would turn out through Sunset, Starlight slowly starts to finally regret her choices and be content. I wanna read that.
My thought is this: Wendigos At the end of the ninth season the Wendigos returned bringing ancient magic with them. Since without the mane six there was no harmony, im thinking the Wendigos end up coming into every timeline eventually. The last one is an example of such, but this time since no one there was capable of stopping them every creature in equestrian perished. And with no creatures to spread discontent, the Wendigos faded away and eventually so did day and night, leaving the barren wasteland that remained, no life anywhere, no magic remaining. That's my opinion
I think the last timeline Starlight created that she got to see with Twilight is a nod to the fan-made Fallout Equestria novel and other media. I mean that scenary looks like it could fit perfectly with the Fallout Equestria universe.
I always thought that last timeline was a timeline where Starlight had taken over. Look at how barren and hopeless her town was once she took everyone’s special talents away. If she had been able to spread her beliefs throughout Equestria, creating a false harmony, I believe Equestria would’ve ended up like the barren waste land like we saw.
Because everything that happened with tricxe would have happened just a little different. Like how cealestia set twilight straight in lesson zero she could have done the same thing with trixce and snips and snails would have eventually come up with the idea of seeing trixce battle a earsa major and trixce could of ran away and still could of gotten the alicorn amulet but if twilight was not there to trick trixce to take off the amulet what if when the amulet controls trixce completely it would have made her fill out sobras plan since was his magic . So trixce would start with ponivle since she was there already and eventually take over all of equestria and would take everypony to one land abandoning there lands
Yea I thought the same. I mean if you think about it if Starlight had succeeded no pony would have talents to maintain the earth, and without pegasus controlling the weather I could see it spiraling out of control into the weather we see in the last timeline, and the earth becoming as barren and dry as in Starlight's village. Also I kind of like the irony of the timeline that Starlight was so shocked by being a timeline that she would've caused. I feel like the cutie map in that timeline might have some more answers too, but I'm not sure what yet
edit: So I was looking more at the final timeline map and it actually did seem pretty similar to the normal map, although it did look like cloudsdale was missing which would make sense if Starlight succeeded in that timeline and pegasus didn't control the weather anymore
@Spider Pool I thought so to but coise glow would need the School of friendship to learn that “friendship is power” and with out the mane six that would have not happen
I think the last timeline was the ending of the timeline twilight, starlight and spike left behind, or the original timeline. Without twilight the rest of the Mane 6 would fall down and another villain can attack.
I believe the theory of DayBreaker being the cause of the last timeline. It would make tons of sense. First, everythings burnt. Second, if Celestia didnt take Twilight and Cadence as student and niece, she wouldnt have filled the hole in her heart for when Nightmare Moon got banished. Nightmare Moon wouldve returned and thanks to the elements, Celestia couldve freed Luna. But Luna wouldve found the way to walk in dreams so she wouldnt become Nightmare Moon again cus she felt so bad cus of it. And that wouldve caused Celestia to get jealous, basically the theory you made about DayBreaker. Celestia is pretty powerful already and we saw how powerful DayBreaker was as well. But maybe we didnt saw her full potential aka her power could definitely destroy the entirety of Equestria. Just my opinion x333
My "headcanon" is that the final timeline, the destroyed one, is a reference to the book of "The Time Machine", from Herbert George Wells, where, after traveling thousands of years into the future, the steampunk book proposes a really dark and negative posibility for our future(the human's future!), where, literally THERE'S, NOTHING, LEFT.
It just seemed... Odd, that Starlight's single event of denying a rainboom could cause something so devasting and radical as that one!!
Or, at any case, if we gonna adapt that possibilty to the pony world, into a theory... What if Equestrias dominated by Grogar himself, and he decided, after being about to be defeated by OTHER pony hero/heroine/warevehr, that he decided that, if he couldn't rule, nobody could, and extinguish all Equestria with him?!!!
(Too crazy?? Yes. I consider it possible? Maaaaaaybe. I do care if you guys like it? Nah.)
Better example a timeline where Human flutter shy didn’t pick up the crown and turn it in to celestia I think that would have given sunset a greater chance
honestly the first thing i noticed was how when the last timeline came up, it was messed with a lot. you can tell she destroyed a lot of things. and in the equestria girls movie, she took the power and destroyed anything she can do. she didn’t care of how it would end up if she still had the magic in her. also i noticed from that last one, it wasn’t night or day. it was more like a sunset. when princess luna turned into nightmare moon she only kept the moon up and never wanted to bring it down. from some cases on day breaker she would’ve wanted the sun up forever as nightmare wanted to keep the moon. so what if sunset shimmer only kept sunset? she could’ve destroyed celestia and luna and led to a path to that? i know u made a big point from the twilight part and the last element. thing is, if she came to the pony world still with the crown of twilight sparkle, she could’ve defeated her as well. she would’ve defeated celestia and luna if the timeline was hers. so of course, there would be no twilight sparkle present. which she would still have the crown into her own hooves. if i make no sense i’m so sorry. i’m barely learning about the theory’s. i never payed attention to them when mlp was a huge hit
I think that the wasteland timeline happened as a result of literally all of the villains from Equestria basically coming back at literally the same time and the result was that they had a more dangerous "My horse is bigger than your horse" fight and the end result was that they doomed Equestria because Castra (AKA Discord's NOT girlfriend) thought it would be funny to cause a huge explosion.
I don't know if others already said that. But I thought this empty timeline where there only was wind and every shown plants dead, etc. Is the Starlight timeline. I think Twilight took Starloght with her, to her own succeed. Here's why: In the village, we saw that no one was able to cook/bake good food. Or making dresses. If all if equestria would be equal, no one could take care of plants, weather, etc. The plants would die. Starlight is good at magic, that doesn't give her the power to handle all the other needed things. So the plants would die, maybe the pony would starve. Nobody controls the weather, the sky seemed only gray, we didn't know if it was day or night. All was gray and boring. Like starlights equality made the ponys less bright.
So, yeah. I think the last timeline we saw, was the Starlight timeline.
@Kirk Lundberg maybe. I just like the idea that it's Starlight's timeline because it's the one she sees. She might have thought, "Oh crab. Is-is this what will happen to Equestria if I succeed?"
Reason why: Starlight didn't yet know who she is and didn't know that twi and sun is rivals before and when they met, she thought she is her friend and not former rival
Edit: It's been 11 months ago after i commented this, and also, if every villain succeeded then she wouldn't get to steal the crown. And they probably tried to make the Eg films non canon thats why it doesn't have any sunset timeline.
The Downfall timeline where everything is Dark and Gloomy is easy to solve if you look at every instance of the friendship map across the various timelines. In the Sombraverse, the crystal empire covers half of equestria. In the Chrysalis Timeline, it's taken over by Plunder Vines from the Everfree Forest and in the Flim Flam Timeline, the Everfree Forest was completely gone.
If you closely look at everything in this Gloomy Timeline you can see a lot of wind and Dark Clouds overhead, and looking at the map you can spot a castle surrounded by greenage showing it's not completely dead. Who or what has the ability to manipulate the weather? The Storm King.
I think the final timeline is either Grogar somehow returning or simply how Equestria ended up. Even without a specific villain, Equestria may just fall out of harmony without someone (or a few someones) to take care of it and make sure the relationships of ponies and other creatures thrive. Another possibility is the dragons. The episode where Dragon Lord Torch stepped down showed Ember succeeding only because Spike was there by her side. But without Twilight to hatch and raise him the way she did, this never would have occurred. So Garble would probably have become the next Dragon Lord. He said "We'll take whatever we want from the ponies and burn the rest" which looks pretty spot on considering the condition of the timeline. Garble's personality wouldn't have changed much even without the sonic rainboom. Am I missing anything..?
I believe Sunset could've never gotten her own timeline no matter what, for two reasons, and two reasons only:
1: Yes, I do agree with you on this one, Sawtooth and that was my first reason.
2: Sunset could've never had a timeline even if she had defeated Twilight and her friends, because from what I've heard, seen and what I believe, Starlight came in before Sunset was introduced, meaning there was no possible way for her to get into the timeline, Am I correct? And even if she did come before, I doubt that she would've gotten into the timelines, because I believe that the last one was probably way WAY after Equestria was there, and they traveled too far in time, Plus, there was only seven and there is 9 villains that started off in the PONY world when they became evil.
But, if the last one was her, that could explain the fire themed look with sunset, did you notice how burnt the empty, last timeline looked? It looked like someone had burnt everything, and everyone had to move. Then everything left was disintegrated or taken for maybe her own kingdom of some sort, so she ruled all of the ponies that were left there, or were still there.
If Starlight had not created or even FOUND these timelines, Equestria would not be what it is today. The Ponies would've never met, including Sunset, Starlight and the other mane 6, Any of the villains could've taken over all, the princesses places, it would be dark, the ponies would probably be empty, dead or even possessed / Taken over by the villains, so that's why it would be bad if this never happened. I hope you understand this if you see it!
Thank you! (P.S) This took like, 10- 15 minutes to write, including thinking on what to say, to make it make sense.
Maybe sunsets envy of twilight was just as strong as twilights friendship with the others. After all, sunset was Celestia's first student and was practically the twilight back then. But still, shouldn't sunset be much older and already the queen before twilight came around. Sunset should've already been the queen or at least not be in a highschool. Although, she could've tried to take the crown after twilight had it, because Celestia never gave Sunset the chance to be queen although she is just as smart as twilight. And if we take real life into hand then I would say that Sunset should have been more powerful. After all, years past and only when twilight came around Celestia gave her the crown and a chance to be a princess and later queen. She never gave Sunset the chance. That would a logical reason to have envy, a lot of it, towards twilight and her friends. Of course that not always the case but it still makes sense. Your theory still is pretty on topic though. Nice job.
I like to think the last doomed timeline where everything is barren is the result from it’s about time, as I feel like this twilight might have missed a lesson or something, causing her to not know about the time spell, and due to all the things she would have fixed not being fixed, a cascade of events could happen to destroy everything, which in the real time loop was likely the cause for the start of said time loop only she knew about the spell on the main timeline.
I can actually imagine that the last timeline has something to do with Sunset. Even though it may not have been her plan, but that of another villain. Maybe one of those Equestria wasn't enough. Maybe one of them ever wanted the human world, too. It is not impossible that they could find out about her. Sunset might have seen this as her chance to escape and steal the villains' magic to use it herself. If she had succeeded, there might have been a battle, Sunset, with the stolen magic, against a huge army or a single enemy, depending on who it was. The fight might have escalated, and with the magic, which Sunset might not have been able to control, the universe of this timeline might have been destroyed.
The scenario in my head would be, Sunset could have gained the element by sneaking into the castle, taking a train to Ponyvile, and stealing the element of magic. Then she went back to the human world and won the whatever queen ((i haven't watched the movie in a while)) and put on the crown, and then became the demon. And then she hypnotized the high school kids and the principal's so they went threw the portal, but of course the principals first. The guards would have let them pass and then Sunset would come threw. The 'queens' would have made the guards stop to not attack her. They then captured Celesita and Luna, and trapped them in the other world. They hid the mirror away in a secret room only Sunset knew about. And then the fakes made Sunset the new ruler of Equestria, of course people had their doubts based on her looks but then she hypnotized the ponies. She ordered Ponyvile to be taken down so the mane 6 couldn't save Equestria, of course she told them to bring the elements to her and she soon had full control over the elements, the tree, and everything that included whatever the elements connect to and more. This is how i think the abyss of the land was made. It was by that land being untouched by everypony.
I think the "blank" timeline is Daybreaker's timeline. Celestia would already be the most powerful alicorn - so her future could be deadly. She was known to have a firey color pallette so wouldn't that suggest she was fluent in blasting things and explosions/fire, and the trees in the timeline are brown and black, the colors trees turn into when burnt (unless they fall beforehand). The clouds also look smoky, perhaps Equestria was only recently destroyed (maybe an hour or two ago). Regardless if it's true or not, I find it more likely than Sunset - that's for sure.
But what if she succeeded by over throwing the mane six
0 likes
Kim Pepper2021-01-26 21:11:29 (edited 2021-01-27 03:59:01 )
It may have been Sunset Shimmer's future we saw.
We know how Twilight got the element of magic, but it was never releveled on how Celestia got the element of magic. Twilight's was that of friendship, but Celestia's could have been for her sister (sisterhood). If that is the case then that could explain why the elements did not work for Celestia after she banished her sister to the moon for a thousand years. At the same time, that gives us two different sparks of magic.
We see Celestia and Luna battle Discord. So lets give each the element that is on their side. For Celestia that will be magic, generosity, and kindness. Luna appears to control laughter, loyalty, and honesty. The colors are not as bright as we see with the main six, but you can easily see what each element is.
We know that Sunset was taught in a similar manner like Twilight was taught when she was a pupil under Celestia. We also know that Celestia did not answer all of Twilight's questions directly as we see in the first episode. Instead of answering her questions and concerns directly, she gives her an assignment to make friends. Toward the end of the second episode we see Twilight's spark is that of friendship to unlock the element of magic.
Let's say Starlight Glimmer succeeds in stopping the rainboom and the six never meet and does not become friends. However, Sunset Shimmer goes through with her plan, even after the previous villains had been stopped in some manner. We can give the benefit that she already knew about the elements. So, when she is able to return Equestria, she has a plan on obtaining the element of magic along with the other five elements.
No one said that harmony could not be a negative harmony. We get to see them used for good, but that does not mean that if someone figured out how to get the other five elements, and generate their own spark of magic, that does not mean that they could be used for evil. Yes, Starswirl the bearded and the others planted the tree to help protect their kingdom. If something can be used for good, then it can be used for evil. One just need to know how.
Sunset already had Snips and Snails on her side. Although twisted as their schemes where, they did represent the other five elements. Keep in mind, they were not zombies, they took on their own evil forms after Sunset got the element of magic. They were kind, loyal, honest, and generous to Sunset. They also found delight (laughter) from others being hurt. As long as they embodied the other elements, she only needed her own spark to unlock the element of magic. Let's say her spark was ambition. Who is to say the element of magic would not have responded to such a strong magical force? If this was the case, she not only gets the elements on her own, but now she has the power to take over Equestria.
Without the qualities of a good ruler, her kingdom dies, literally. If not her whole kingdom, the isolated corners of the kingdom at least falls to the way side and become waist lands. Nothing can survive in those areas. Perhaps, because these are the areas that could have sheltered rebels against her and she destroyed the area herself leaving nothing behind.
My first guess was that all her "zoombies" would get turned into ponies after entering portal and thus were later easy defeted by ponies that actualy know hot to use hooves and magic... :3
@eviljbrian And there's also the fact the mirror portal will most likely close quickly and she will be cut off from reinforcements and lots of issues. And if she tried to force it back open, most likely it will tear dimensions up and such.
@Hannah Ringer Actually them being "zombies" would most likely hinder them there. Given how they look slow and such. And most likely being under mindcontrol in this case hinders their performance compared to how Sombra mind controls creatures into fighting for him.
Or..they'd go through the portal and the equestrian ponies couldn't tell the difference between them. And are we forgetting the portal takes you to Thwilight's pony castle so they could ambush her unseen
@Jaguaiser's World Actually the portal was still in the Crystal Empire during the movie. And pretty sure they can tell the difference with the mind-controlled ponies moving like zombies and having blank glowing green eyes.
@Hannah Ringer They would be moving like zombies there. It looks like their performance is hindered pretty badly due to that they are like that. I mean, look at them.
I had a theory about that 'darkest timeline', which ties in with another theory I had that there was an overall secret un-revealed villain banished to another dimension, operating from behind the scenes, manipulating everyone & collecting dark power from evil deeds so they could escape from their prison, at full strength (though this itself might have been a little too dark for G-4 MLP)... Now, what if that 'darkest timeline' is the aftermath of this long-forgotten unknown enemy actually succeeding in returning to Equestria..?
Well one way Sunset could continue her plan without the element of magic is using the alicorn amulet. Sunset is most likely a lot stronger in magic than Trixie so her having it would make her incredibly powerful. The problem being of course how would she find it, but then again how did she know in the first equestria girl movie that Twilight had the element of magic.
I have an idea for what caused the untold timeline, hear me out: We see more of a desert land, theirs no ponys and in the other timelines we see ponys almost right away, and in the other timelines there was still greenery(mostly) but maybe something happened with sunset and the crown that caused her to lose control and burn up the surface of the world, it would make sense because of the desert landscape and no ponys around, it would make sense because she now looks firer and stuff in her new pony form,thank you for reading, have a great day
Am reading Fallout: Equestria and the book came out before season three, but there are startling references to later seasons... Almost as if it were Canon...
I feel like the last ending is the timeline where Starlight had taken everyone's cutie mark, even sunbursts, and she used all of its magic to destroy Equestria but killing herself too while doing so. What are your thoughts? Theory 2 Maybe...its the timeline where Trixie destroyed all of Equestri with the help of The Alicorn Amulet She over used her power to it's limits and it just destroys everything on Equestria Whats do you (the reader) think?
It looks more like a land of darkness and death as well as destruction, and considering that there is actually only one villain (though more of a speculation) it could actually be Grogar's return. Although now that I think about it, most likely has to do with Dragons.
I just read an amazing fanmade comic where after she brainwashes all of Canterlot High, Demon Sunset transforms them all into her personal demon army with a small fraction of her dark magic. That would’ve made it much more plausible for Demon Sunset to theoretically conquer Equestria, on top of wielding the Elements for herself.
I feel like the last timeline were all the villains. Let me explain, the first villain of the show was Nightmare moon and the second was Discord I believe. So Discord must have fought Nightmare moon for Equestria. Apply this to all the villains and it would be this series of wars. As expected these wars might have destroyed the land of Equestria and creating the barren waste land. An Sunset Shimmer wouldn't have turned evil because there would be no elements because Twilight wouldn't have been there to activate it. This is my theory
I think the wasteland timeline was supposed to show the combination of all the villains getting their way. So much evil spirits, magic, and disharmony would lead to a waste land where even Equestria's most powerful villains wouldn't survive.
I know that some theories say the mystery timeline was Cozy Glow. But I think that can't be. The school of friendship wasn't built yet, where Cozy got her plan. Also, this was about seasons later. I don't know how far forward the makers thought. So, I think we should look at the 5 given seasons. So Nightmare Moon, Discord, Crysalis, Sombra, The everfree Forest, Tirek and Starlight. We saw all, except the everfree forest and Starlight. But from these two opition, I think Starlight makes more sense and is also deeper that Starlight stopped her plan and reformed, because she saw what her success would cause.
Ok hear me out, all these timelines acc exist because in the episode where the ponies cutie marks get switched around ( idk the name ) all the ponies r used to theyre mismatched cutie marks , that’s all they’ve known and maybe twilights spell didn’t switch the cutie marks , maybe she switched realities , mayb she was sent there by the spell to fix it idk mayb star swirl knew that that’s what this spell does but that wouldn’t match up with other episodes, where the ponies remember getting their rights cutie marks but mayb jus mayb that day sue said the spell , she switched realities and not the cutie marks of her friends
I love your videos so much, and I never find anything wrong with them. But I did find something to argue against this with..
If Starlight had stopped the, Sonic Rainboom. Then the main six wouldn't have found their special talents at that time (or at all). And the main six would not come together. Thus, no Princess Twilight Sparkle. Thus no crown to be stolen. This would lead Sunset Shimmer to not be able to become overwhelmed by the magic from Twilight's crown. Since Twilight would have never found out that she was the sixth element, she would have never gotten the crown in the first place. So Sunset had no use of coming back for the crown... Because the crown didn't exist
Would figure it could have been Midnight Sparkle as Sunset would still be around, so there's some link to the portal and some way for her to continue studying into those energies. Add that in with the sirens and she might just get a lead that could bring her to a noticable level of magic(and if we want to go to something crazy, maybe the manipulation of time didn't affect the alternate world's time and messing with reality as much as she did had an effect on the potential future, hence the complete wasteland)
Sawtooth is a cycle of forgetting he existed to binge watching all his videos. Jokes aside, I have a new theory. I think starswirl DID create discord. Remember in season 4, all the magic from the everfree forest was holding the seeds from taking over. We now know that starswirl had the magic to stop it, and used it because he created the tree of harmony. In season 9, we know that that was what was keeping it from growing wild. What if he used that for Discord? What if he WAS a mistake, but all that magic held back into this time?
@pqacorn good point, but we don't know when starswirl created discord, it can be right before or when he was dealing with the pony of shadows. In the case, he would have to rush, so that the pony of shadows would never take over. He could of misread it, just casting it away, because he didnt think it would be important.
@sunnysidedown The everfree forest was holding back the seeds from growing? Did you even watch the episode? The tree of Harmonys magic was strong enough to stop the seeds from growing lmao not the everfree forest XD
@NoobMaster69 yes, but he was the element of sorcery, like the elements, magic is the most important element, so it would be the same. Also, that would explain why discord got released faster. From a timeline perspective, discord only came a bit after the pillars were banished. If only starswirl casted discord away, it would be weaker.
All I could say is perhaps look very closely at the crystal map upon the 7th wasteland Apocalyptic timeline. The map gives us hints on locational changes through out each time loop! Maybe that might be a key!
So here what I'm thinking.. if Celestia can turn into Daybreaker (aka her bad side) she could've burned Equestria into ashes like we saw. Nothing was left alive and everything looked like it had be destroyed by a powerful being the main 6 have never seen before. It could very well be possible that the main 6 never came to be and Celestia finally put up with Nightmare Moon returning while she battled her sister once again. Used dark magic on Nightmare Moon turning her to Daybreaker and they fought until Nightmare Moon went down and then she took over Equestria burning everything she saw and imprisoning Ponies to do her bidding. After her rein died Equestria did as well... but that's just a theory I put together.
So let's say that up until the movies everything was the same, but the only reason sunset lost was because twilight reunited the human six, so if sunset somehow managed to stop that from happening she could've gotten the element of magic and destroyed the pony world
My theory for the last alternate universe shown, where everything is dull and empty, is the reality if STARLIGHT would have won, and got everyones cutie marks and made them all equal. Think about it, starlight glimmer was the only other villian at the time to not have had a alternate reality if they would have succeeded. Therefore, that last one was most likey the outcome of Starlight Glimmer collecting all the cutie marks and making everyone equal, where everything becomes dull, everyone has the same talents, and due to the lack of proper food(since in the episode where we first meet starlight, even pinkie pie couldnt stand the muffins) and probably everyone had died, or a less gruesome outcome, all moved to the one town, which is far from where they are when they see that reality.
I thought that last timeline with absolutely nothing was from parasprites. No food, not damage, all plant life gone. Due to no plants, no animals, ponys, or any creature. Maybe it just got to the point where only people who know how to deal with them where able to live in caves and bunkers. But without anywhere else, you can't lead them somewhere to leave you alone without attracting alot of them.
I don't think there would have been a magic school for Sunset to attebd to and end up being power hungry in any of the timelines. The nightmare moon one, Tia is in the moon. Sombra, busy with war. Changeling war, hardly any survivors. I think that last timeline shown is with no one other than Daybreaker.
Well if the mane 6 never met, then twilight would never been a princess, and her crown wouldn't exist, therefore, she wouldn't be able to have the power to make her army. She would still be the bully she was before twilight came.
Maybe, in an alternate timeline, Celestia herself tried to help Sunset with the elements, but Sunset stole the element of magic and, well, everything was screwed up
But wasnt Sunset originally a pony? Under Princess Celestia? I dont exactly remembered what happened to make Sunset leave, but wouldmt Sunset still be with Celestia, and if any timelines went wrong, thats how it effected Sunset?
What if the last timeline we see... is actually Daybreaker timeline? Because in Starlight's nightmare Daybreaker said, that they didn't need anyone. Or... anything?
I think the desolate time line is the one where tirek won. Tirek would have stripped all magic from equestria, including that of the alicorns. leaving earthponies no way to grow crops, pegasi no way to control weather, and unicorns no way to control day or night. the world of equestria..it would have been devoid of all life.
I feel like the alternate timeline where it is a barren wasteland is a clash of all the conflicts coming together. Trek, Nightmare Moon, Chrysalis, The Flim Flam Brothers, and even more threat and villains and resulted in the eventual barren wasteland which led to few survivors. Or it's possible a new entirely different villain rose because of the elements being gone and caused this timeline.
What if the final timeline was... Cozy Glow's timeline? I say that because she tried to take out magic entirely. And she would've succeeded. Without the CMC or The Student 6, the magic would've been erased entirely. So It wouldn't be long until the world started to crumble. Since ponies are so reliant on magical ability. Its safe to say... the world would've fallen.
Now the question is, how? Since the School of Friendship never wouldve opened.
I doubt Sunset would be able to take over the EG world. While she was a unicorn in Equestria, in the Human World, she has no magic, nor magical abilities. She's just a regular girl, however she IS at least somewhat intelligent AND manipulative as she was able to break apart the friendships of the rest of the girls. The only magic she possessed was in the book that Celestia gave her, and that was only to write messages back and forth. (Edit) Don't forget, when she DID go back to Equestria in the Mirror Magic short, she had to get used to walking on all four again, AND had to be reminded she was a unicorn and had magic.
Even then, the portal between the worlds is only open for a short period of time. It only became open full-time because Twilight was able to harness and amplify the magic of the book on her side of the portal in order to keep it open.
I think I know who's timeline the last one is. It's starlight's! We saw the multiverses, but we didn't see what happened in OUR timeline. Starlight would have caused all the villains to succeed but they would have had to fight each other. Think about it, tirek would have came to a world most likely run by another villain, causing a fight. Where would that lead? Absolute destruction.
I think what might've happened was that maybe all the villains teamed up, destroying Equestria. while yes SOME villains were brought together in season 9, the Mane 6 were there to defeat them. Anyways, after destroying and taking over Equestria, they might have turned on each other, destroying anything else that might have resembled Equestria. Them turning on each other possibly resulted on them destroying the ponies, and each other. Also, before they might've destroyed each other, the villains probably took over the rest of the world, the dragon lands being the hardest to take over. After all of the destroying each other, we get the 7th timeline.
I think the reason that Sunset's victory wasn't shown was because Hasbro didn't want to bring Canterlot High into the main series plot :/ Sometimes the simplest solution is the most correct one
I'm inclined to believe the barren timeline was the result of starlight herself. Since we didn't see anything maybe it was because the map showed what would have happened if starlight took over. When we saw her village the food was horrible and they had shabby clothes. If her influence stretched all over equestria everyone would have not been able to do what they were meant to do with their cutie marks and equestria would have fallen. However starlight would need to defeat the princesses. Since her magic is as strong as twilight's she could have easily found a spell to defeat or trap the Royal sisters. Then she would rule supreme until her plan fails due to the lack of order where special talents are needed to keep the whole of equestria in harmony.
Now we have proof that someone who was impacted by the rainboom released Nightmare Moon. In most of the timelines it appeared to be day, proving that Nightmare Moon is still not released from the moon. But now the only question is who? I think it may just be the Tree of Harmony which can read the future. The tree sprouted a chest that would be opened long afterward when Terik came. Maybe the tree also knew the way things would turn out if Nightmare Moon came out of the moon.
There is the possibility that maybe Celestia could've found other bearers, but they wouldn't succeed as well as Twilight and the others because most situations they were in needed those specific ponies, no one else could do it. Celestia could've found ponies that worked well enough to become bearers, but not enough to solve everything. That could end up leading to Sunset getting the crown. But I don't really feel like that could fit with the wasteland timeline, more like one that they didn't get to because they fixed the problem. Another video I've found speculating on how each timeline came to be makes me really feel like that one happened because all of the major villains and Equestria fought in an all out war and the world lost. That just makes the most sense to me out of every explanation I've found.
I wanted to see a timeline where Starlight Glimmer succeded. When she stopped the bullys by convincing them AND Fluttershy that they could all be equal, they could've showed us what would've happened if everypony had the same cutie mark.
Look at what garble says in "the gauntlet of fire" when the other dragons were talking about their future when they became dragon lord. Garble says "when i am in charge, the first thing I will do is get my revenge on those puny ponies. They'll regret they ever came across Garble. We will take whatever we want from Equestria, and burn the rest." Then look at the final starlight timeline. Garble might have won and he unleashed his plan to send Equestria into dust.
PS: please please please please please please please please please put this idea into one of your videos.
I always took it as a "Once the magic is brought into the world, it's like sand; never coming out completely again." It also seems to be sewing the two worlds together more in Pony Twi's absence, with the crystals inside the Everfree Forest, the memory stone thing, ponying up without Pony Twi, and the Hair Six suddenly getting those powers. How Sunset would know that is beyond me though.
I think the thing happening is; Without the element of magic, when you put another element, if you are evil, you became a she demon but less powerful. If you just find the elements İn a random place without any purpose and put just for fun, nothing happens. And if you are a laugher person and you put the element of laugher, you pony up. Thats my theory.
I might agree with you except for one thing, without the mane six, there are no elements of harmony, and with no elements there is no element of magic, which means no crown, which means sunset would've had nothing to steal to make her a demon.
This is a cool theory, but it would of never happened if the main 6 didnt meet because sunset shimmer used the element of magic to turn into a demon, and without the main 6 meeting in season 1, the elements would still be stone
'When the 5 elements are there a spark will bring the 6th element" The spirits of the elements of harmony works toghetter with the chrystals but we saw in the same episode that you could create a spark between them it's just the sprits were there and need to be toghetter. If the sonic rainboom did'nt happen the spirits wouldnt be toghetter so it would only be the chrystals sunset shimmers could get the 5 make a spark like Twilight did and boom you got a 6th element of harmony. I think that timeline IS indeed Sunset Shimmers timeline. Maybe she even tried it before in the normal timeline but it did'nt work since the spirits of harmony were toghetter.
I think I have a theory for the barren wasteland timeline.
Look at what happened to rainbow in that timeline. She was zapped by starlight. She could have been injured on that hoof (no pun intended). This might've caused him to become hostile and paranoid after being hurt. She would've gone insane and switched sides during the war with King Sombra. With her help, Sombra recruited other villains to cause the world to become a 'dry hell'.
I have a question? What if Sunset didn’t go rough and went through the portal? Which would most likely mean that the events of the equestria girls series would never happen, but what about the other events? How would Twilight and starlight, as well as the other five, had been effected by Sunset staying? Would Discord have been released?
I think the 7th future was Cozy Glow. Think about it she wanted to use friendship for power. So she held the ones who wouldn’t be her friends (aka nearly every creature) is they were held captive until they would live with Cozy in Twilights castle. And with no pony around to care for the land or anything for that matter their world becomes a dry wasteland where Cozy relocated in case any rebels attempted to overthrow her.
I think the last time line is where the villas waged an all out war and destroyed everything because of it as a last attempt Celestia traps them in different ways sacrificing herself in the process due to the war the land was unusable and all creatures died
The main reason Sunset wanted the elements was because she was jealous. She had no motive so it'd make sense that she wouldn't do anything, she'd probably still be Celestia's pupil
There could’ve been no way for sunset shimmer to take over equestria, the elements of harmony were kept in the castle of the two sisters when Luna became nightmare moon, if twilight and her friends didn’t come together, the elements would still be kept in the castle or destroyed by nightmare moon.
She wasn’t shown because twilights crown gave her the powers So if twilight never have met the others then she wouldn’t be the princess of magic or go to the human world Cause she would be a regular pony in canterlot so there would be no crown to steal
What if the wasteland timeline was Grogar's(if he was somehow freed) timeline, however, I can't imagine Groger's kingdom(or empire) looking like a wasteland. I am doubtful that the wasteland could've been caused by Cozyglow's(if she erased all the magic from Equestria) plan. But that's just what I think.
as believable as this is, I would like to add one small detail
so are you telling me that no students who ever went to that school ever, had accidentally fell onto the portal in the human world?? Like there has to be some sort of chance the students were fooling around, maybe playing tag or something and they didn't bump into the portal at all? or maybe just lean on it just the slightest bit?
I always thought that unidentified timeline were all of Equestria is destroyed was Garble’s doing. After all, he DID want to destroy Equestria if he became Dragon Ruler, which thanks to Spike, never happened. But since Spike was never born and the Mane Six never became friends, Garble got what he wanted. On the other hand, he wanted to do this out of revenge on the ponies after Twilight, Rainbow, and Rarity humiliated him. Who knows?
1st theory- Do you remember in the last few episodes (ofc you do, they were great) what if grogar was actually real and still alive.
2nd theory- all the villains teamed up when nightmare moon returned and attacked Equestria at the same time. destroying the elements but since they were all too greedy and couldn't share Equestria they fought until there was nothing left but a waste land
3rd theory- When nightmare moon was defeated they accidentally killed her and because of that Celestia became so caught up with grief she became daybreak never turning the sun off and literally burning Equestria to a crisp and since Twilight would have been new to the elements + scared to use it after seeing what it had done to Luna + Twilight would never harm her teacher she wouldn't be able to use it
I believe that villains teamed up like King Sombra, Cozy Glow, Tirek, and Queen Chrysalis did, but with more, if not all villains.
0 likes
Tom Sparrow2022-01-15 19:06:10 (edited 2022-01-15 19:06:23 )
Okay but I just realized, what if not every timeline where the main six don't meet is necessarily terrible? What if there's a timeline that, on the surface, seems better? A timeline where sunset went to magic school with twilight's old Canterlot friends and those six became the elements of harmony? What if this left the original mane six scattered across this timeline as villains and antagonists? What if this left the new main six with the constant inexplicable feeling that something isn't right, like they were forgetting something important or that they weren't where they needed to be? This is way more fanfic territory than theory, but I just think it's a cool idea.
If there was some possibility of demon Sunset crossing over, what would she look like? Now, with that in mind- note Chrysalis. There is no human version of her that we've seen, implying that the human version could be in Equestria. What if Chrysalis was similar to Sunset, and she came across some equestrian magic allowing her to go into Equestria in an alicorn-similar form? Please please please look into this theory and make a video about it, because Chrysalis could be solved any day.
I think the bare wasteland is from the one where there was a dragon sleeping. Season 1 Episode 7. It would make sense since if smoke had covered Equestria it would have covered the sun causing all the plants to die. Since if the Mane 6 weren't there then the dragon might have covered equestria in smoke.
The wasteland could have been if Grogar was somehow freed. Also remember you did a video on how Starlight should fix the alternate time lines? Well, what if she makes another time line by accident, she would go in that time line and then accidentally help sunset shimmer get the element of magic.
I think the final timeline is a reference to Fallout: Equestria, and it's all just wasteland, I think it might be, given that the MLP has multiple references to fan art based on the series.
I believe that the baren world is because of the bug thingys. You know, the ones that eat everything? It would make sense for them to eat everything, leaving only the half-trees and rocks that we see in the timeline.
What gets me about that episode is if Starlight kept going back making it so the 6 weren't connected by the rainboom wouldn't that mean Twilight would never be a princess so how was she still a princess if Starlight had changed the past. Something doesn't really add up. Was Twilight protected from the time change because she was going back in time as well??
I know this video was 9 months ago but I'm pretty sure that the last possibility (the one when Twilight showed Starlight the future she made) was the result of windigows. Not having Twilight to spread friendship, the windigows would come back :/ but that's just a theory, a game theor-
Ok so I thought of this one earlier, if Sunset Shimmer was a pony before wouldn’t there mean there was already a human Sunset? Kinda like how Twilight was already a human that didn’t go to Canterlot High if we applied this logic to Sunset Shimmer’s arrival in the human world, then it is absolutely possible that there was already a human Sunset that no one knew about, I think it would be awesome if they eventually introduced this logic
Here's my theory of how sunset shimmer will be able to succeed.
As sunset raged and left to the human world, she knew what the elements could do. So she snuck into the human world and stole the elements (How? Of course she knows that where the mirror and guards are; she at least once should've seen it)and she got them from the castle since there was no mane 6 to stop her) she got the elements used it and became into demon sunset. Fast forward; she made zombie teens sent them; got in herself and destroyed the world as her motive was.. to be powerful and rule over equestria
I have an idea of what the last timeline could, what if Celestia became Daybreaker and went on a rampage, she could have turned into her with the grief of not being able to save Luna from Nightmare Moon
I think the final timeline was actually (human) Solar Shimmer's timeline. She would have successfully made it through the portal and terrorized the entirety of Equestria into fleeing. She'd destroy everything in her path until it became a desolate wasteland. With her gained power, she'd defeat the Mane 6, the other princesses, and conquer Equestria. How, may you ask, could this happen? Short answer: Starlight Glimmer and the 8th timeline. Yes, Sunset/Solar Shimmer's timeline. Starlight would create one final timeline, and create a warp in time and space... (oh no here comes another link) just like Midnight Sparkle. If Midnight, Solar, and Starlight were all linked through timelines, we can see where this comes together. Solar Shimmer would still be thriving off Equestria's magic until she discovered the warp. That is where they all become linked.
The Wasteland Timeline is when I was successful in my plans. After thousands of eons of moving my pieces into position, my endgame came to fruition and the Final Oblivion Crisis was complete! The Wasteland is the first stage of transforming the Mortal Realm into a Daedric Paradise, where all Mortalkind will be slaves to the Daedra! Though, not for work, but for sport. See, we Daedra don't take liking to putting Mortals through hard working labor. We enjoy their suffering and torment, and they're pain and agony!
It is possible the desolation timeline is the result of every timeline a major villian took over happening in sequence, as a result of the fighting between the powerhouse villians Equestria was effectively reduced to ash.
What if sunset went through the portal.... Let's say the human 5 followed her through at that time they were still angry with each other because of sunsets lies. Sunset and the mane five find the prophecy of the elements and sunset wants to use them to gain more power. Just like the original timeline NMM tries to stop them but they still show their individual talents and on this journey their friendship is restored and Sunset gets reformed.... They defeat NMM and are the ones who represent the elements of harmony...... Now they all need to stay in Equestria to protect it but the human 5 cannot stay.............. Feel free to continue the story or say your ideas in the replies 😀
sunset wouldnt have been able to use the magic in the element of magic because the main reason starlight went back in time was so twilight and the others never met so there wouldn't have been any element of magic but if twilight never got her cutie mark maybe sunset might have still been able to be celestias student because in season 1 they were talking to the cutie mark crusaders about how they got there cutie marks and twilight only became celestias pupil when she got her cutie mark
Unless the elements would have called a different mane 6. you forget the element is self aware, it does plan. It may simply be that it called Derpy and her friends instead. Then they stopped discord etc and everything but Princess Derpy couldn't get the Crown back and thus... Sunset timeline.
i think that the 'wasteland' timeline would have been caused because all the villains attacked each other to conquer equestria. but it caused nothing but destruction of all of the them
What if sunset got bored of the magic in equestria, and then destroyed the rest of equestria and travelled back to her own world, well the human world. She then destroyed the portal so nobody could travel back. Nobody remained as they where either turned into her personal zombies and travelled to the human world with her or... well died without the resources they needed to survive.
What if the mystery timeline Starlight created was the result of the dragons? Remember how princess Ember became the Dragon Lord? It was possible because of Spike’s help. If Spike wasn’t there to help her some other dragon would have become Dragon Lord. I think it’s most likely that the brother of the dragon studying in Twilight’s school (I don’t exactly remember his name, maybe it is Garble) would have bin the Dragon Lord. He was fighting Spike and Ember for the staff. And if they weren’t there, he would have got it and became Dragon Lord. He wanted to destroy the ponies. So that’s what he would do. As Dragon Lord he would have commanded all the Dragons to destroy Equestria. All of them used their fire breath and burned everything to the ground. And as a result, Equestria became a waste land. That is what I think happened in the last timeline Starlight created. I hope you all enjoyed my theory.
I had the same thoughts as u, the desolate waste land would probably have been sunset, but then u brought up that the elements would still be in their rocky boulder form.
Here is what I think happened, and how the wasteland timeline came to be. The gauntlet of fire. It happened in the dragon lands and would have happened with or without the sonic rainboom, except spike wouldn't have hatched without the rainboom and thus could never win the gauntlet. Garbble would have won and would have become the new dragon lord, after that he would lead an attack on equestria and no one would try to stop him. Ponies wouldn't be able to do much against the dragon army and would surrender. The dragons would probably burn everything just for fun and that,s how equestria would become a wasteland. That,s my opinion.
My theory: it was her own future: the Starlight Future. Face it. Starlight is more powerful than Twilight. Maybe even the other Princess'. She would have easily wiped out Nightmare Moon. With her gonna by death, Celestia would never return. A war would wage in which she would kill all who stood up agains her. Seeing this, the creatures of Equestria, now banded together against a common enemy, would turn to Dr. Hooves who would build a atomic bomb. They would force her into a battle and drop the bomb on top of her. But it wouldn't go as plan. Not only would it kill her, but all life on the planet.
This is infuriating. I can't believe you completely ignored daybreaker. The last timeline was caused by daybreaker. sunset is strong in her which form but daybreaker is the of destruction of a sun, an alicorn to begin with. my biggest disappointment in the fandom is that everybody ignores daybreaker. Stop it.
I think in that timeline cozy glow took the magic out of equestria and since the land depends on magic it stopped growing plants and crops so it killed everything
I think that the barren wasteland was the result of many villains…..here!s how it goes
Villain after villain would come seeking to control equestria. Soon all of them would find they weren’t the only ones(bear w/ me here I’m not too much on the timeline path)Sombra,Discord,Tirek,Chrysalis etc. They would see there were others
Cue dramatic moment of truth. Cue epic villain battle.
2:41 then.. what was that mysterious and freighting timeline? what would have caused that if not sunset? maybe cozy glows actions to getting rid of magic? or maybe if tirek, cozy glow, and chrysalis won? i for one would love to find out.
they woudn't come together without discord altho we saw a discord timeline discord only did it because twilight didn't think she was good enough, In a short way i think, No Rainboom, No Mane 6, No Princess Twilight, No Princess Retirement sooo the Princesses Couldn't Retire
I think that's the last time line is the world where Starlight was able to remove cutie marks. Now we all know that once your camera was removed your colors became a bit more dull. And maybe the dust is actually Pony ash. I'm so sorry
The crown sunset used was twilights crown made out of the element of harmony which was unlocked when twilight and the others came together so without the main six the elements wouldn’t be unlocked so sunset wouldn’t be able to take over in the same way
I think that the last timeline was a result of every single villian combined they basically destroyed equestria. And then they just killed each other.
0 likes
The Meeper👑🎗2020-12-27 07:17:22 (edited 2020-12-27 07:18:27 )
2:26 I think she only made 6. And that the flim flam brothers one was shown twice. Take a look at their timeline. Its a polluted currently being destoryed mess. And maybe flim and flam drained the planet to a point where the "7th" timeline was and they abandoned the place along with any other rich or powerful ponys. And over the years time reclaimed the barrien wasteland
I don’t think the human world was effected by the time travel, so I don’t believe any time travel scenarios in equestria could effect the outcome of Sunset’s plan.
I agree with you definetly, but mostly because this revenge was caused because she wanted to show celestia she was a great student and could persue the queen title. In an interview with Hasbro, we were asked about sunset shinmers timeline after the everyone had grown up, and it was definetly believed she would have come back because there is 2 of every person in the realm, like one twilight in the pony world and one in the human world.
Honestly the reason there is no sunset shimmer in the timelines is because EG is never mentioned in the show and Hasbro wanted to keep it that way. It honestly sucks.
Well, it would have been impossible for sunset shimmer to become a she-demon because she became a demon because of twilight's element. If twilight wasn't there to defeat Nightmare Moon then tho elements wouldn't transform and Sunset wouldn't have got the element because she didn't make the spark thus Sunset shimmer would still have been a mean and insensitive bully in the human world
Just saying that I have no hate for Sawtooth's theory
what if it was daybreaker (celestias ego which is like luna with nightmare moon) if when nightmare moon was in charge it was a lasting night. what if celestia was ever really able to become day breaker it would end to everlasting scorching sun which we see the destruction it causes.
As much as i love your theory on the subject Sawtooth i think the answer would be simple, if Sunset Shimmer was never defeated then she would've never changed her ways and sought out to travel down the path of friendship.
@Sawtooth Waves Probably not, because it's like Twilight said Sunset may have possessed the crown and all it's power but she couldn't wield it because Twilight's element was only meant to be used for good, and the reason why Sunset wasn't affected by all the time traveling that Starlight and Twilight were doing was because Sunset was in the EQG world at the time there's a major difference between alternate timelines and alternate dimensions.
Well if the srb never happened then would twilight still become the princess of magic? We see twilight and her friends never became friends or at least didn’t meet twilight so can the princess of friendship become a princess of friendship? No. So there would never be a crown for sunset to take.
Literally just finished writing this and he just said it in the video proving my entire point so now I feel stupid 😑
Moreover, Starlight's timelines happened before Sunset stole Twilight's crown. As we saw, all timelines had one villain from the past that main six had won. So, Sunset couldn't even stole Twilight's crown let alone go to Equestria.
What if sunset would have had her own friend group of 6 and they would have become the owners of the elements of harmony, but after Sunset became the princess of friendship just like Twilight originally became but saw the perfect chance to rule whole Equestria and used the elements of harmony to become more powerful, just like Chrysalis wanted to when she created the mean 6. Even tho she failed, why? Because the elements can sense evilness?
I don't know if anyone else has said this, but I think that other timeline would've been Tirek, Cozy Glow, and Chrysalis' future. I don't have enough proof but that's just what I think.
Without the Mane 6 the element of magic would’ve never appeared meaning that by the Season 8 all the villains would be roaming free, so lets return to that first thing i said, Without the element of magic sunset shimmer would’ve never been able to take it therefore meaning sunset shimmer would never be evil/reformed
I know this may sound crazy but I think that the last timeline is the 5th generation. I know that everything ended fine in the 5th generation but what if without magic everything fell into chaos and it up with the last timeline
I think that if the main 6 were not there, Sunset would not get the crown. I think that the last timeline could just be starlights future. I really like your video.
Starlight stopped the Mane 6 from meeting and Twilight can't get a Crown without meeting her friends which means Sunset Shimmer get nothing to steal. Since she gets nothing to steal, she can't become a Demon like she did because she became a demon by stealing and then wearing the Crown. This explains why there was no timeline of Sunset Shimmer ruling the world.
Honestly I think the barren wasteland is is Celestia's timeline. Everything is scorched earth and dust. If Celestia's was evil and decided to never let the sun go down everything would burn up and die. There would be nothing left except heat and sand. *edit a word
in a no rain boom timeline Sunset would have been the element of magic and gotten her own friends leaving Twulught to become the runaway student. so we get mean girl Twilight. so technically Sunset would win,she just wouldn't be the villain in the first place. as for who her alt 5 would be I have no idea asifr from Bigmac standing in for AJ
I think that if twilight didn't get onto magic school then she wouldn't have become a process and the whole show as we know it would be different. If she wasn't a princess she wouldn't have been in the summit and wouldn't have her crown so sunset couldn't have taken it.
Maybe in that barren scene, the world is really fine, it just happens someone opened a desert theme park there. Totally kidding. I actually think that resulted from a free-for-all all villains fighting each other mega battle blitz-type deal
0 likes
Trin and loki2021-08-28 19:50:06 (edited 2021-08-28 19:53:24 )
Let's just say sunset got the other elements if she just found out about evil magic when she got them.. could a evil element of magic appear?
I mean sunset is a unicorn and we saw Celestia banish nightmare moon using the elements, including the element of magic, and sunset was Celestias puple before twi, so what if sunset discovered how to become an alicorn after more time and is as strong as Celestia, but if not. What if you don't have to be strong to use them if you already know where the element of magic is, and with the crown making sunset even stronger it could totally be possible it was catastrophic leaving sunset alone, the pony of shadows reached out to both stig and luna when they were lonely and or neglected, but she was already Demon sunset soooo where did the pony of shadows come from, the element of magic maybe? I would like someone to make a video on this or reply pls
This is my theory where sunset could have succeed when sunset was stealing the crown she wouldnt have put any alarms to wake up twilight which means sunsets plans go well and until its too late sunset has already tooken over even if it wasnt too late how would they defeat her?
What if changing time really doesn’t apply as this would mean getting a whole dimension involved. Adding on, this only happened AFTER RainbowDash’s sonic rain boom, so demon SunsetShimmer’s plan working timeline couldn’t have been seen as this only happened after the rain boom, the timeline of demon SunsetShimmer taking over Equestria could have happened if the sonic rain boom happened, but the realisation of Twilight’s missing magical crown didn’t
That wasteland could have been if all of the villains attacked at the same time...then because of it a rain boom couldve happened which destroyed the land. (Ok rainboom is a bit far fetched but that's a theory)
Theory: Maybe the empty future was trixie's future with the alicorn amulet but that would make no sense cuz if it was it would defiantly show trixie in it
Best theorys THAT WORK. (Plus explanations) storm king, parasprites and starlight glimmer Cozy glow, sunset demon, and midnight sparkle, don't work because they rely on the mane six.
Maybe it wasnt just one/ a new villan ? It could have been the end of a war ? without the main 6 theres no stopping other villans from escaping and yes we did see a timeline like this but it might not have been a new timeline it might have been the end of one ? (hope this makes sense i havent watched this ep in a while 😅)
I think the last time line was the pony of shadows... I just have his speach saying that he'll absorb the light from the relm... that alternate had the sky and ground black, the only light was that faded orange-brown in the backgroung.
Your right about the elements of harmony still being in their original form but doesn’t princess celestia’s crown have just as much power as twighlight’s? What’s stopping her from taking that one other than like hundreds of guards
Frankly without the main 6 I don’t think Sunset being an issue would be possible, the element of magic had to be at the right place and the right time for sunset to get to it and that’s why sunset had it and could be demon sunset, without Twilight there with it she couldn’t have gotten her hands or hooves on it and become demon sunset, but your point about the equestrian military really shows how stupid and prone to failing Sunset’s plan was, and depending on who else had ruled the place before sunset(which Villain took over the world before the equestria girls stuff) the equestrian military wouldn’t even be her biggest issue if she had somehow gotten her hooves on the element of magic or another element, we have no idea how a Villain would have reacted to Sunset’s invasion and what countermeasures would be in place to deal with any threats, for instance somehow I can’t imagine Sunset standing a chance against Discord. And now that I think of it Sunset might not have even had the chance to get to the mirror depending on how long it took for the Villains to really affect equestria
first of all, if twilight would'nt have met her friends, learned about friendship, she would'nt possibly have gained the element anyway....she also would not become a princess, have a cornation in crystal empire and had'nt gone there.....so..Sunset would not come to take her crown and wear it and.....whatever I think it just did not happen
I think the reason we didn’t see a Sunset Shimmer timeline was because the crown would never have been in the crystal empire if Twilight wasn’t a princess and Sunset would not have known about the crown so she wouldn’t have come to steal it. I think the last timeline might be one where all of the villains came and tried to fight for a Equestria, destroying it in the process.
You mention that for sunset to have powers from the elements twilight would had to have found them and be giving the spark, but what about the elements that are already in the human world? In legend of camp everfree where the 6 get the elements back from gloriosa? Mabye sunset finds them and knows what they are
Well there ae a ton of other villains which could've caused that timeline if it weren't sunset shimmer. The Storm King? Or perhaps Cozy Glow...she was so close to sucking up all the magic from Equestria, and considering how evil she is, she could've caused the whole entire of Equestria to be unprotected and become a wasteland had she soaked up all the magic. Without the mane 6 to stop her, she could be a raging tyrant.
Well yeah, a whole school of teenagers wouldn’t stand to the army in the pony world. Because when you think about it, they are just teenagers right? And also aren’t there going to be more of that pony army? Or would the number be same for both the high school teenagers and the guards. That’s the hint I’m thinking about because basically you wouldn’t really need to think about it but it’s going to be the guards that are stronger cuz the teens are not trained because you know they are teens😑
If the rainboom never happened, then the Elements fo Harmony would remain hidden in the Everfree Forest and Sunster HSimmer would have never gotten the crown or known that they were real.
I think the barren wasteland timeline did have something to do with the humans. I think a human may or may not have accidentally found it and as humans do with first encounters, decided to get rid of the native inhabitants. My guess is nuclear warfare, which is why we didn't see the mirror anywhere. We've already been shown magical explosions. Like when they defeated Chrysalis in season whatwasit3? Or when Rainbow wrecked the barn at Apple's request. Or several things with structures in the clouds. It wouldn't be far fetched to say that the US military did that to Equestria.
I think the barren wasteland timeline was Starlight's. Here's why: Past Starlight was still around, along with Future Starlight. Past Starlight would lose her friend when he got his cutie mark, and go on to found her village. Without the Mane Six interfering, there wouldn't be anypony to stop her, and eventually, maybe even through all the villains (and her innate ability to magically alter destiny), her cult would grow. Maybe Future Starlight would even help her younger version. And not in the good way. Eventually, her cult would grow so big that the ponies of Equestria would become unable to grow food, due to all of the farm ponies giving up their cutie marks, and the land would become barren and hostile. Also, look at how Starlight and Twilight's colors desaturate when they get to that timeline. It's the same thing that happened to the ponies in Starlight's village before they regained their cutie marks. Plus, it's just too ironic.
I don't think she would be able to stop any of the bad guys though, even with her magic. Especially with how apparently only heroes than can fire rainbows at baddies are allowed to beat anyone.(TWABA being an exception but I don't think it will work here).
I think the doomsday scenario was caused by the parasprites, they eat everything and they multiply plus pinky doesn't have laughter or anything to fight them. Sorry but the way you described it, it sounded like it happened gradually, in time for her to stop.
@Kirk Lundberg Interesting suggestion, but remember, the parasprites typically only eat food. They only ate everything else because they were magically enchanted by Twilight, which we know didn’t happen in any of the timelines because she did not move to Ponyville. Pinkie Pie likely wouldn’t have lead them out of town with her music in this timeline either. At worst, the parasprites would have caused a famine - nowhere near the destruction we saw in the doomsday timeline.
The reason why there was no Sunset Shimmer "what would've happen if the villain wasn't defeated" is because Sunset Shimmer transformed in the human world. But, the "what would've happen if the villain wasn't defeated" thing happened in the pony world.
What if the ashlands universe goes even further into another alternate timeline entirely? No Mane Six, Luna dreamwalks before she becomes envious of her sister; Celestia wants the emotional connections her sister has... she returns a millennium later... she succeeds in her quest to bring eternal day... the whole world suffers. Like, some sort of premature global warming effect..?
What if sunset shimmer was the main character, i do like twilight, but their was something about sunset shimmer personality i liked better. Of course equestria girls is what made sunset so interesting though in first placed, being a redeemed villian who had to struggle to make up for what she did. Kind wish the equestria girls had its own tv series rather than movie events. But will take what we can get.
I think if she won and crossed over to Equestria, it would be a death sentence or at least certain defeat, an army of righteous children against an army of Kingdom soldiers, she would lead those children to death, just like Erwin. Without Levi, without a plan and a chance to win, she would be the only problem, but in the end, she was not powerful enough to challenge the forces of Equestria.
or maybe it was a timeline when daybreaker happened! daybreaker's rain could have been that bad that it could have make a timeline so dark, empty, broken, mysterious, and sad to the point it was freighting!
the last timeline is probably starlight glimmers because if the main 6 weren't there to defeat her when she took over the village, she could probably take everyone's cutie marks and then Celestia and Luna would not have the power to raise the sun and moon because that's their cutie mark so it would just be a barren wasteland.
I felt that sunset could have asked how Celestia got the elements when she banished nightmare moon to the moon. That way she could have found a different way to get the elements since celestia didn't have friends with her when she banished nightmare moon. Once she found out how to get the elements without friends, she could bring the elements and take over or destroy equastria. ALL HAIL QUEEN SUNSET, THE DESTROYER OF EQUESTRIA!!
My theory is that the last timeline was where all villians were toghether, since they wanted different things, they made a war that ended up equestria; idk just a theory xD
Sawtooth Waves,if you want my opinion on the wasteland timeline that Starlight created, I think it was the Storm King. Think about it, with all that magic in his staff, he would have created a huge storm and destroyed everything. Yes I think it really was the Storm king so please make a video about that it would great.🌩👑🪄
if the mane 6 didn't come together sunset shimmer couldn't wear the crown cause the stones turned into necklaces and a crown after the mane 6 first used the elements if starlight prevented the present the stones wouldn't never turned into those and i bet they still would've stayed shattered if nightmare moon wasn't stopped
Maybe the last multiverse was actally Starlight's? If she will take away all cutie marks and there will be no one to control the weather, no one to make food. In time ponies will die and there will be nothing, but darkness
I haven't watched the whole video yet but if the main 6 never got together there would be no elements of harmony because they wouldn't have unlocked the magical element
If anyone is wondering why we didn’t see the demon twilight from the human world in a timeline that Starlight created it’s because without the pony main six coming together they wouldn’t have discovered the element of magic so the human world wouldn’t have any magic meaning the human world version of the main six wouldn’t have any magic that human twilight could drain from them meaning she wouldn’t have the magic to transform her into demon twilight.
The last timeline was the sumset timeline cause it looks like everything was burned to ash because demon sunset is powerful i have a reason to beleve that demon sunset burned equestria so let me know your thoughts to this theory
I love that accessory on his head, looks so cute ^^ I honestly never even noticed that they didn’t show a sunset timeline, this like really mind blowing for me right now XD
We didn't see a Sunset timeline because EQG isn't canon to FIM. Remember how the sirens made a cameo in season 7? Remember how upset all the EQG haters were about that?
Twilight wouldnt have had the crown, sunset wouldnt have stole it from celestia cause it was locked with a spell only celestia knew, sunset would have to go very far to get from the mirror to the elements, she would have been spotted by celestias guards and if it was night then lunas guards there would not even be a chance for sunset to get to the elements before being spotted... If you read to the end thanks if you have any thing to add pls comment and tell me if you liked my theory
when you made that video on sunset's brother sunburst went through the portal , what if he told her about how they were formed and sunset went back to equestria , tried the same and maybe succeeded ?
Here’s one thing I don’t understand. How does Sunset Shimmer know about Twilight’s Crown after all these years in the human world without seeing things from Equestria?
the last timeline could have caused the sunset shimmer timeline becouse maybe before having all elements if she got power by the five she could have power for the sixth or the five could form the sixth element of harmony as even starlight didnt know about the human word it was a spell and a spell could know anthing and she could zombie the school with the five girls to be more powerful even they hated eachother and she could have the power to rule equestria and years passed she turned equestria in to zombies and then ruled equestria and draining the magic of everybody with her power she could be an alicorn not an alicorn the only alicorn in all equestria and years passed equestria would be dark and gray and it was the fate of sunset shimmmer and then the zombie ponies dissapeared and then equestria would have been dark and gray and there would not be any magic in both worlds and nobody in both words.
Well I dont think that would even be a possibleity because in starlight's alterive timeline they have never became friends aka the 6th element never appeared without the spark so there would be nothing for sunset to steal without actually creating the spark herself
Honestly, people/bronies want to deny Sunset her victory by saying an Army would be on standby, but is that really the case? Sunset walks through the portal and sees hundreds of Crystal Empire Guards, weapons ready, waiting for her arrival as if she announced it days in advance? I don’t think so. Remember, the portal was open for THREE DAYS AND NIGHTS, and it’s not like everypony is going to be standing guard at the portal for 72 hours straight because there are no other threats, hazards, etc that need to be dealt with, right? At most, there would be a couple of guards and maybe the rest of the Elements at best. Sunset would sneak in, put the guards and/or the other Elements on the back foot because they wouldn’t want to harm the mind controlled humans/ponies, and thus be overwhelmed before reinforcements came. Maybe even getting them under control as well. Sunset continues this until she faces Shining Armor, Cadence, Luna, and/or Celestia. Using their caring nature against them, Sunset would be able to overpower them by using their compassion against them. Sunset could easily grow her army and take down the rest of Equestria by force by that point, and it all started with taking The Crystal Empire by surprise because it’s not logical for The Crystal Empire’s defenses to be well prepared against a threat and enemy they don’t know is coming.
It obvs! Sunset got hit with the "Shoo Ray" which landed her in noncanonita. Lol
I think Sunset would of turned her back on Celestia to get more power but she would need a spark she clearly didnt have. Even worst Sunset could of forced her way back to fine the land already ruined due to local calamities, with Celestia got and no hope of rebuilding she goes back as her hate shimmers, no way to delight in a grudge when your target may have been wiped off the board.
@Sawtooth Waves i think there could be 2 options the last time change of the end of Equestria, it could be true the version of Day Breaker has show she is real, you show us in a video some years ago about the theory abt Day Breaker if she is real or not in other words, but i think Starlight has indeed release a world Day Breaker has burn everything and everypony, but what abt herself i wonder is she also dead after that she has make Equestria dead?
Anyway i have my other option and that is about Sunset Shimmer eke the Demon she became in the Equestria human world, as you told here if i can still remember even a teenager army won't even work to defeat Celestia and her (copy) army, but she could maybe go make a fight with Celestia in the Pony world she actualy came for, pretty powerfull enough to even use her manipulate powers on Celestia, sorry but that is not what i was thinking how at that point Equestria was dead, i have knowing something could seem and sound super weak and uselless but at the point Demon Sunset Shimmer said to Twilight: I have magic and you have "NOTHING!" Then her hair was on fire, and you know her name what it is: "Sun" Set Shimmer i bet she has power of fire because Celestia have Sun Powers, and sun make fire, so i think Sunset Shimmer has go through the portal itself and has defeat Equestria for revenge orsomething and that is what we saw in the part of Equestria is dead.
What do you think of this how i was thinking about Sunset Shimmer? Think about it😄
that wasteland timeline... (my theory) SO MANY DIFFERENT VILLAINS cozy glow didn't need the school of friendship! she needed tirek! he could've succeded in that timeline to! and... cozy glow just could've asked. although... idk if tirek would aggree... but still! she could convince him! she could've learned that freindship is power without the school! but... there would probobly be a war. cozy glows a kid, she'd lose! well most likley. tirek would also most likley beat chrysalis, sombra, flim flam, nightmare moon... but not discord! he is to powerfull! but if tirek took his magic... different story! although, after all that battle it would resolt in wasteland. the winner would probuobly leave... and thats the best I can do okay? but... the yaks could've desroyed so... that to I geuss
Wait.....Didn’t Sunset use the element of magic when it was a crown. The crown was formed only after Twilight and her friends came. So if they weren’t there how could she have come to equestria and got the element of magic? Please tell me if I am missing something.
i don’t think a timeline where sunset wins would be possible if the mane 6 never got together, they never could have activated the elements, so sunset could never have stolen the crown from twilight edit: i guessed the explanation before i watched that part oopp
No I assume when starlight blasted rainbow she was still able to do the rain boom but here's the problem she still wouldn't have all the trust and loyalty she had the prophecy would still be complete but discord's rain she would make it unable to fix it that's turning it into a disaster on the zone even if it was complete that would be a heavy blow and by the time sunset stole the crown it would be too late to fix everything that discord has done they never plan done reforming discord because in this timeline he did a lot more damage so one day rainbow dash had an idea she snuck the crown away from sunset and try to revive discord along with the man six they revived him but he didn't help them he made it way worse that's creating what I call the disaster sunset timeline
Sunset betrays discord and kills him with no chaos to bring back New Life I know any other pony to bring it back sunset would die and leaving it unrepairable
If twilight stayed in that timeline for a couple thousands and I mean thousands of years oxygen would freeze and she would die too along the sunset and Spike but they would die alone before that due to starvation and but then again they wouldn't die for starvation they would die because they're not hydrated there's no way to real life to form there's only way for Life to die
you forgot about one of the first episodes the dragonshy I believe the dragon did it you don"t see any plants and only a deserted land so it really seems like the dragons fault
Actually i have a theory what caused that timeline,Do you remember your old theory about the elements of dis-harmony? I think those elements were found by Sunset while she was trying to find another way to get the element of magic,i think she successfully drained the magic thus weaking equestria the ponies then abandoned equestria and settled with one of the other creatures land
Me and my friends discussed that the royal guards aren't really useful but that was just our opinion, also what happened to the night guards or in other words Lunas army, what happened to them in mlp, we only got to see them in the Halloween one where Luna tries to have fun with ponyville and the timeline when nightmare moon won. That's all we got, did Celestia disband them or were they not considered important
The the barren Wasteland couldn't open the results of sunset shimmer because she had to use the element of magic and that elements of magic so if the main six didn't do anything about it and they were normal citizens the elements of Magic wouldn't have been freed and sunset shimmer wouldn't have gotten a hold of it that's why it couldn't have been sunset shimmer
I would've argued that Demon Sunset couldn't have existed in any of those alternate timelines because of the lack of the Element of Magic. But I feel like you stole that argument from me. So just so subvert expectations, I'm gonna argue that the barren wasteland WAS the Demon Sunset future and that Demon Sunset IS possible.
We don't actually know when Sunset escaped to the human world. What if she didn't go through the mirror until after the Sonic Rainboom incident? We know that Sunset was Celestia's student before Twilight. But if the Sonic Rainboom didn't happen, Celestia's focus may have stayed on Sunset. And we also know that Sunset left because she found out that it was possible to become an alicorn, but Celestia wasn't telling her. But if Celestia explained that it's not as simple as just giving her wings, perhaps Sunset, rather than escaping to another world in anger, would've stayed and was determined to earn her wings.
Perhaps during the Millennial Summer Sun Celebration, Sunset's situation was similar to Twilight's, being sent to Ponyville and make friends But instead of making friends, she was more focused on stopping Nightmare Moon's return. She saw this as the perfect chance to earn her wings. So rather than overlooking the preparations, Sunset's focus was more on Nightmare Moon. But rather than trying to find the Elements of Harmony, she wouldn't have known about them and would've attempted to stop Nightmare Moon without a plan.
Fast forward to the Castle of the Two Sisters, Nightmare Moon may be more tactical in her approach to dealing with Sunset. Sunset is doing this to prove her worth. But Nightmare Moon tells her that she will never be worthy enough. At least, not in the eyes of Celestia. And from Nightmare Moon's perspective, that's true. Though Sunset is not convinced, Nightmare Moon was successful in planting that seed of doubt and corruption in her mind, weakening her defenses just enough for Nightmare Moon to use her magic to fully corrupt Sunset. And thus, Demon Sunset is born.
But Nightmare Moon underestimated how powerful Sunset would become. So the corruption fed off of Sunset's desire to prove herself by defeating Nightmare Moon. And now she has the power to do so and kills her. But the corruption was already set in, and Demon Sunset wanted to prove herself more by showing that she was more powerful than Celestia. Demon Sunset is never satisfied, her constant desire to show off her worth causes her magic to scorch the land to become the wasteland that it was.
So yeah, I originally had the intent of proving Demon Sunset couldn't have happened and then resulted in demonstrating that Demon Sunset actually could've happened. Granted, it's kind of in spite of you making the argument against Demon Sunset before me. But it's still a possibility, right?
Nice. I can see that you put a lot of thought into thus theory, but the only thing that the reason why Sunset turned into demon sunset is because she had the element of magic in the human world. No other magic can turn her into demon sunset. And even if she got the crown somehow, nothing would happen. Twilight put the crown on all the time in equestria. Nothing happened. So it has something to do with being in the human world.
@Emmanuel Ehumadu The Element of Magic allowed for the transformation to happen. But it had nothing to do with what she transformed into. And there's no reason why it can't happen with another source of magic, or that it has to be in the human world. It's been proven that having uncontrollable magic can corrupt, as seen when Pinkie took Discord's Chaos magic in the finale (or the comics when that also happened). And corruption combined with magic causes a transformation, as seen with Luna becoming Nightmare Moon, and again with Pinkie with Chaos magic in the comics. Magic does work differently in the human world. But that doesn't mean that the transformation has to have happened in the human world.
Not really fond of Luna/NMM dying though.. Like seriously.. I don't think even with the new power, Sunset would be able to kill NMM, a alicorn amped up by darkness. Then again the show really destroyed the credibility of natural Alicorns such as the sisters, which I hated they did a lot.
@night shroud96 Well, this is MLP after all. So I suppose NMM doesn't have to be killed. Just defeated. Or not even defeated. The wasteland could just be the result of the struggle between NMM and Sunset.
Without the cutie marks there would be no reason for the elements to even turn into crown form, in this timeline sunset shimmer would have no power. This can be true but the human world did have 2 portals one built and one natural. This means she could've found power, but even if she did, it was to late. Something had already taken over the pony world whitch could lead to this theory, sunset was in all of those timelines. But as always twilight proved all elements(other then magic) can be more powerful she could've brought the elements herself defeating all evil just to gain trust, at the right moment she would take them and use them in the human world and be as powerful as the twilight human causing her to bring war on the pony world, please study into this. I can't make videos.
Sunset would have wanted equestria but without the element of magic she can't take over that's why we didn't see her because she was still figuring how to conquer equestria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpFwY5DbyA made me think. considering Cadance power is untapped by the show and by comics she COULD go nightmare form.... how devastating could it be when Shining Armor Dies and Cadance falls to her inner demons? (I'd imagine in her dark mind Flurry would "not understand" in any attempt to reason with her grief.)
I think sunset would succeeded of one little thing. What if susnset stays a little mor with Celestia and she would know the power of friendship but then..darkness and she would now how powerful the element is and the only question I have is: What if sunset would be the element of magic? Without twilight Maybye she would be the element of magic. She was great at the school so I find it possible. But like the clones of chrysalis she would turned bad and unable to go again without the element of magic or either friendship but if sunset knew the power of the element well the complete destruction of equestria and any other who take she’s way. But I hope you read this.
The last timeline where whe don't find any structures looks like the "end of times" Probably a extremly strong villain or more than that caused this future...
I don’t think Sunset caused that time line because if the main six never met Twilight would’n be able to free the element of magic that would cause Sunset not to be able to get the power of the element of magic.
I think the reason why se didn't see her was because the equestria Girls series never affected the FIM. I think that the last timeline we saw was because the wendiegoes came back. When every pony was killed by Them they stopped because the job was done.
I think that future was caused because of daybreaker or might mare noon because after cadence didnt succeed to save the empire celestia was lonely so she turned into daybreaker and destroyed equestria
Cause without the elements of harmony sunset could have never ruled Equestria........as Celestia proberly never mentioned where the elements were and without Twilight becoming the princess of friendship and comeing to the crystal empire Sunset shimmers plan would have never worked
what if it was because the mane 6 never met each other, twilight didn't get her crown and become princess because she never knew friendship, and she didn't go to the human world? sunset would have had no crown to steal, so demon-sunset wouldn't have existed
What I think that happened in the wasteland is that when tirek and his brother were going to take over the world and they succeeded that is what would have happened. This is what I think.
That was the Sunset Shimmer timeline she used some sort of other magic maybe I'll call an ambulance or she actually talked to one of the villains for all we know is that she did turn into a demon somehow
When this video can be debunked by saying the elements of harmony wouldn’t exist in there current physical state if it weren’t for the rain boom, so this video although a great idea, isn’t possible when you go into the logistics Edit: just seen the fact you go into this lol
It’s the same with corrupt Twilight in the third movie What if that last timeline was corrupt Twilight opening the rift, because in the other world, Sunset wouldn’t have been reformed to stop her allowing Twilight to rip the human world open to get to the pony world, I should make a video on that on Random disguises
if the timeline was already distorted and there weren't any main 6...then there will be no sunset shimmer gaining control on the element of magic right?
When we’re talking about time travel anything is possible, if I wanted to explain all the possibilities with time travel and how it works I would need to make a video not just a comment. And a long video at that. Another thing is that if we were to discard the timeline in the course of events in MLP just about anything is possible. One of the reasons the background ponies are so popular is the fact that we don’t know their stories and we can come up with crazy things about these ponies and still have it fit into the canon. If we are able to make all these stories fit into the canon any slight adjustment to the timeline could have crazy alternatives. A.k.a. the butterfly effect. Stopping the rain boom was a big one but what if it was something small? Luna and Celestia agreeing on the security measures in “Twilights Seven”. Then Twilight and her friends would fail. Imagine everything that would be different and how vulnerable the palace would be. And if we were to take into account all the background ponies lives, there would be even more danger involved. Basically if we’re talking in theoretical terms with different timelines, anything is possible.
I think the last timeline was caused by a event that resulted in the apocalypse (I mean that lifeless grey windy world that was the last timeline starlight created)
Sorry to say this sawtooth but you forgot about something
Equestrian girls began in the beginning of season 4 and starlight stopped the rainboom in the end of season 5 so that means sunset was already reformed on that episode of starlight also the sirens we re also defeated before starlight stopped the rainboom
I know this all thanks to that MLP timeline you collaborate
I thought the world was a world where the pony of shadows won cause it was dark and sad (because when they were looking for the pony of shadows in the show they looked for a place of shadows)I know it might be a bit weird and I know yes then could be still in limbo but he could escape
And yes I do know all the plot holes you could punch in the idea but I think it could be possible if you looked though the show so I hope that sawtooth waves can make a good vid but idk he prob won't see but hay it's worth a shot am I right
there was no sunset shimmer timeline because remember sunset shimmer wanted the crown of twilight? when starlight glimmer changed the past the mane six didnt meet and the villains suceeded that means there was no spirit of the elements of harmony only twilight, but when the mane six did not meet it was only Celestia and luna but without the elements they wouldnt had defeated discord, so the elemnts wouldnt have been discovered but when we go the topic of sunset shimmer, there are no elements and she would still be in the pony world still learning about magic so she wouldnt be greedy at that time cause she didnt know about the crown, the element of magic. reply to this leave some more thoughts and theories of what you think happend i hope this made sense
What if the barren wasteland was from the alternate Twilight. The land is clearly magical so that what it would look like if she drained all the magic. hmmm?
What if it was Sunset who became a princess and not Twilight who joined the Mane 6 instead. If Twilight stole the Sunset's crown and settled in the human world and jealous of Sunset then how would the world be different? What if Starlight brought Twilight to another reality where that happened?
Sunset Might be able to win because if you remember on one of the episodes when the tree of harmony got yPrincess Celestia and Princess Luna we all saw that princess Celestia took out the elements of magic with her horn so sunset shimmer may be able to do the same.
what about the parasprites? perhaps they might be the last timeline? since pinkie wouldnt move to ponyville if it wouldnt be for the rainboom, since she figured out happiness/joy bc of it, and since none of the other ponies knew what they were not even fluttershy /even so fluttershy wouldnt have moved there anyways/ but all their food would be gone, and pinkie not being there doing all the music, all ponyvilles food would be gone and since they duplicate everytime they eat smth it would be alot of them, and when they were done with ponyville they could have gone to canterlot, manehattan cloudsdale and everywhere in equestria since on that episode in the end of it, celestia also said that those were somewhere else in equestria, and since twilight wouldnt move to ponyville celestia wouldnt know about the ones in ponyville eitherway it would have been in 2 places in that case, and if they eat all food, then everypony and creature would starve, since they also dont eat meat and the animals wouldnt have any food either so, starvation. and who knows how long in time starlight took them before it became so deserted.
in which case the parasprites would perhaps also starve after eating all the food, so they ate the grass and all that, and without food no strenght, and celestia wouldnt be able to rise the soon or moon since she wouldnt have the energy. / idk if luna would still be there tho/ and then the ponies in cloudsdale wouldnt be able to work with the weather, so no rain to water the trees and plants and all that stuff, and then the parasprites might just eat the houses since those would be the last left to eat tills they would also starve.
I think the apocalypse timeline was caused by an all out battle between all villains, but no one won. Maybe the unrest caused Grogar to come back, he destroyed everyone and everything, then ended up defeated by the Windigos because of the destruction?
Winners one thing without the mane 6 Crown that makes sunshine shimmers diemand would have never happened it didn't get the Crown there in the 1st place so that explains why we didn't get an alternate timeline of thunchath shimmer
Sunset would still be a bully and mean to everyone, the reason why she became evil and stole the crown is because she was jealous, plus the crown wouldn't need to be stealed since Twillight wouldn't be there.
Let's say this This is a alternative timeline and where the main six is brought together and when twilight go in to the human world but sunset still succed and go into the pony world .
But there a catch there is three god , one discord , tons of guard and a little baby that destroy the crystal heart
If the rainboom never happened before then sunset would have never turned nice there is a way to use only the five elements to destroy Celestia think about it when twilight sparkle drank the mystery drink from the zebra Celestia sent nightmare moon to her prison maybe sunset could of done that with the other princesses and sent them away but also destroying equestria
Hmmmm well if that was sunset’s alternate world then do you think she went down with the rest of equestria? If she could do a spell that powerful wouldn’t it take down her as well? And if she did somehow survive, what would be left for her to rule? She would be done with her revenge and try to get back to the human world
However, is that wasn’t her alternate world then I have a different idea, when sombra took over the crystal empire (again) since the mirror was stored there sunset could’ve come into the portal and ruled along side sombra, or the opposite they had a big fight
@Sawtooth Waves fair point, but if she did do that there is a possibility she saw another world (example: The timelines starlight made) she could’ve sent her army through one of them? Idk
@Sawtooth Waves But tearing apart the fabrics of the universe is more of what DISCORD does (pink skyes and pink ground, dancing trees all of that.) The apocalyptic future would be more a consequence than a ripp of dimensions.
@LogicalOwl That could be true, but discord's magic can only play with reality (like the chocolate rain, the dancing trees, pink sky and ground, upside down houses, all of that) the apocalyptic future looks more like a consecuence
3:41 You reminded me of something here; The whole reason Twilight is even “special” is because she figured out the riddle for elements of harmony; Remember ANYONE or THING could’ve done that; That specific pony just needed to understand the magic of friendship and unlocked “the Spark”.... She was just the only pony (at the time) to truly understand the true magic of it and unlocked the elements.... I actually like to think that Twlight herself isn’t “special”, and that she was just lucky....Anyone could’ve done that! Literally anyone! There are just so many powerful unicorns who could’ve done it, but what set her apart from everyone else is that she able to understand the prophecy and the true power of the elements, due to her past and training and stuff.....The universe would’ve gone on just fine if she was never born, don’t get it twisted....
I think that the last time line was formed because none of the villains were defeated so all of the fought against each other that's why nothing was left in the last timeline
0 likes
Alex Iacob2020-11-22 07:58:15 (edited 2020-11-22 07:58:29 )
i thought that timeline is midnight sparkle's taking all the magic of equestria
What if the last timeline, was cozy glow? I think even they would not make the friendship school, Cozy would be mad caused of the thing she even got mad! She wouldve made a different plan and probably get all of the magic from equestria..
In the alternate timeline, there probably wouldnt be a demon sunset shimmer at all. because the elements would still be hidden because the sonic rainboom was prevented, which means the crown couldnt exist because the mane six never met up and became friends.😃
I think the barren Wasteland is the most terrifying timeline, because it wasn't caused by any of the mainstream villains but the result of what would happen if DAY BRAKES! When Celestia stops caring about being a ruler. When she realize just how powerful she could become. The only thing holding her back is her morals. The best ways to lose your morals is to burn them at the roots and set Equestria ablaze.
What never made sense to me I'm this episode was if Starlight stopped the sonic rainboom from happening then why didn't Twilight also lose her cutie mark and her alicorn powers, since if she failed her entrance exam and was not accepted into Celestia's school, then in turn she would never have become a princess and therefore never gotten her wings, so Twilight should have become just another unicorn battling against Starlight Glimmer minus her wings and possibly her cutie mark. The rest of her friends didn't get their cutie marks because the sonic rainboom was effectively prevented.
Unless Twilight still somehow became a princess and got her cutie mark after all which doesn't seem likely because she would not have been accepted into Celestia's school.
My theory is that the barren wasteland was caused by an all-out battle and someone used a spell of annihilation or Armageddon and there is believed to be no life remaining and it might have been caused by some kind of advanced weapon like a nuke of some sort, if the ponies or others ever figured out that kind of technology. But it probably was simply an all out war for the world that killed everyone.
I know what cost this it's all of the villains in the future merge together theme up and defeat the equestria if the main 6 would not there they could have stopped it from happening but there was no one there I think this is the reason of this I hope you understand and I love your channel and your discoveries
I think the reason of the deserted timeline is because all villains fight and then all of there fighting brought the windigoes and then when all the power combined it resulted in the timeline we see
If sunset was not defeated she could maybe be a evil vision of a princess because in the comics I’m the rise of sunset shimmer” it shows that she wants to become a princess already and could get revenge on Celestia who didn’t give her on want she wanted most so if she able get revenge on celestia she could maybe steel all of the princesses magic and transported all of the magic into her self to become a more overpowering allicorn and be a taking revenge on their teacher celestia its makes so sense in my opinion.
I can't just understand that if in the alternate timelines of starlight, the mane 6 don't get together and found the magic of friendship then how's in equestria that cutie mark map appreared if they didn't found the magic of friendship, they won't found that they represents elements, then how they recovered tree of harmony and opened that magical lock, and that castle appeared with that cutie map ?? So how's that cutie mark map is in every alternate time line?? 🤨
I think this might be possible because cutie map connects not only every place on earth, but also every time, so, once it's created, it can't be uncreated, no matter what happens... Others in those alternate timelines might not understand where did it came from, but it's still there.
What if celestia was the one that hid the element of magic 🪄 because that episode when discords plunder vines that took over the tree of harmony how we saw how celestia used the element of magic to defeat nightmare moon
there can't be a sunset timeline if there is no crow for her to steal it was the main 6 who found the elements of harmony so when sunset comes twilight won't even be princess
My theory: The last timeline is caused by a collide between all the other timelines. Just think about it. Each timeline had only one villain. And Twilight said herself: ,,Every world is worst than the last". So the last possible timeline must be the WORST one. And what can be the worst thing to happen in Equestria? All the villains from the different timelines to return at the same time. That way, they would start fighting for Equestria, destroying everything with their battle, until there is nothing left. So the last timeline is practically the complete distrouction of life, the end of the world.
Wait...This is my Theory: If the Rainboom didn't exist? She can't be a Princess unless.... Remember when Sunset Shimmer took the crown? She would destroy the Equestia IF she have the whole army What if she heard it? If Sunset Shimmer wasn't defeated, she would be in the portal and took Equestia.. I hope so.
there's a Fanfic called "Context" over on Fimfiction that has an idea about the Wasteland timeline, it's this,
“Your funeral...” Discord said, rolling his eyes. “Or rather, Dashie's funeral, since your blast killed the poor dear. Congratulations! In that world, your plan succeeded! Twilight and the others never got their Cutie Marks, and never became friends! Which means that there was nothing to stop Nightmare Moon, me, Queen Chrysalis, King Sombra, Arabus, Grogar, and SO MANY OTHER rapscallions from coming back from their hidden homes and start waging a war with each other across Equestria. Eventually, Celestia went insane from trying to stop us all, became Daybreaker, and self-destructed, killing ALL life on the planet.”
that's.... that's just horrorible...
he even get's a loadfull by Twilight and what does Discord do? -----> “Hey, she's the one who wanted to know,” Discord said, smirking. “I just obliged her. Ta!” He snapped his fingers and vanished in a puff.
If the main six weren’t around sunset wouldn’t have been able to get the element of magic and therefor not be able to destroy equestria with the dark magic the element gave to her
I believe that sunset could have never successfully do her plan because if twilight never met her friends then sunset would have never been jealous of twilight because she never would have became a allicorn
Well If The element was not there, How Would She even know about it? And The Other Elements? No One Know About it But The Queen Of The Sun. Also, They Were In Stone And They Are Necklasses. It Must Be A Crown Remember.. Teh Crown = Da Magic And Whatever. Thats What I Think.
I Think not all the timelines starlight created had to deal with the sonic rainbow I think start light didn’t do everything the same but was a bit creative before everything that happened after Ali corn twilight after the old elements were old and rusty then sunset shimmer stole the crown I think twilight didn’t go through the crown the mane 5 would still hate each other and nothing would stop sunset shimmer as for starlights timeline for sunset I think it didn’t exist sunset shimmer destroyed everything and now nothing exist not only that but I honk she went after the other elements but they won’t work unless she used the opposite like a corrupted version of elements
I have a prediction, what if rarity actually finds ways to make her magic more useful? as shown in season 9, rarity uses her magic to throw a giant rock and also carries pinkie pie and her party cannon. Maybe rarity is trying to improve her magic...and in “Growing up is hard to do,” sweetie belle teleports while saving a pony from bloofy. Maybe sweetie belle and rarity try to improve their magic? Just my prediction. Another prediction that would’ve made season 10, would be when Flurry Heart is a filly, Cozy Glow is freed from stone and meets flurry heart, them becoming friends and flurry heart hiding their friendship from twilight and cadence. Cozy glow starts to understand friendship and tries to be good, but flurry heart is nervous about any pony discovering their bond...
sunset could be an opposite of starlight because it took much longer for starlight to be you know finished but sunset gave up everything more easily. ohhhhh what if the were sisters
But, if the mane 6 weren't there. The crown may not exist in the first place and so therefore sunset shimmer may not be able to win anyways. The elements may still exist but it would be very hard for her to obtain.
I think it would like turn to the alternate one where like twilight and sunset changes roles and friends of sunset in the equestria girls the girls that are in the team of the human twilight(not princess twilight)the girls that are there are the like exchanges of the mane 5 and twilight will turn to be the one that will steal the crown of friendship except sunset its like their lifes just change but there was no evilness in sunset Also the mark of the crown is like sunset's mark not like twilight's mark I hope you notice me😁
Is it possible the the desolate world time line was caused by the pony of shadows? In S7E26 Shadow play II, at the final battle of the episode Stigian said "the shadow and I bacame one, and soon all the realm will be the same. Then all the ponies will feel the dispare I did from being cast out" I think he used the pony of shadow magic to destroy everything then cast all living things to limbo because that was how he was cast out/banished. This would rezult in a desolate wasteland of darkness. If they had stayed longer perhaps the pony of shadows would've showed up, however this is yhe only time line in which they didn't stay longer than one conversation and neither did that explore at all.
@x•L E M O N P I E•x LOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOL
@x•L E M O N P I E•x LOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOL ✨✨✨
so my thoughts are, if twilight didnt exist sunset wouldnt be jealous or if she failed and got mad but the mane 6 doesnt exist either it still wont work since the other elements would fail since sunset shimmer doesnt know where they are, celestia is the only pony that knows how to open that seal, so sunset cant do anything. though she'd still be mean to others in the human world
My theory : is that if sunset even said That she will rule equestria make any sense twilight own that element her self if she wanted to she could just do a spell of that she is the element of magic so there must be a connection the element of magic can't just betray its pony it's connected with it just can't turn into evil like we saw twilight could somthing with the crown like sunset demon fired twilight with some of her magic but the crown was connected to her so it protected her but I maybe wronge because all of her friends also protected twilight even though the pony twilight is not there real friends and time to timeless see less twilight in the human world
The important question is: "IF WE DIDN'T SAW A SUNSET SHIMMER PLAN ACHIEVED FUTURE, THEN WHO'S PLAN WAS ACHIEVED." Can you make a video about this please??
Also for the matter, Rainbow Dash is the one that affects the events and future, so the way the Sonic Rainboom was stopped may have had a mental or physical consequence on her, for example in the apocalyptic future she was stopped by a magic laser(or whatever is called), In king Sombra's War she was stopped by a freezing spell that tied her hoofs together, and the list goes on and on
I think the one that wasn't explained may be the world in which....Well I f you think about it my way they also stopped Starlight Glimmer from making the village such talentless. Meaning she had the ability to do so to the entire Equestria. As we all know Equestria wouldn't last a chance without ponies with no talent....Maybe she proceeded to take cutie marks of the entire Equestria and then without each other everyone died and so did she....A little far fetched Ik but ..... What about it?
But if twlight and her friends didn't meet they wouldn't have unlocked the elements of harmony so how would sunset even get the element of magic? Supposing it stayed put in the castle of the two sisters where it was when twlight and her friends found them wouldn't that mean sunset would have to somehow get past the guards of the crystal empire, travel all the way to ponyville, get through the every free forest and possibly have to face off with nightmare moon to get to it and still have it be trapped in stone. I know she's gifted in magic but not that gifted
I have a way it’s stupid that sunset could of succeeded: She could of gone through the portal stole the other 5 elements jewel steal the element of magic then use that to become so powerful and if can’t fit on her body give one of the Element to to snips and snails.
Honestly looks like daybreaker happend and caused an apocalypse there could be some durvivors or none everything appears to be burned and the fact the sun is low would suggest nightmare moon is free as well and they're going head to head
Edit: I speak Spanish and still I love your videos, in my community there are not many people who like to talk, much less make videos of this type. :')
I think that maybe if the rain boom didn’t happen then the main six maybe might not be friends. And then the elements of harmony wouldn’t have been found and nightmare moon wouldn’t be defeated. Because twilight couldn’t get the element of magic without all her friends. So with that nightmare moon still wouldn’t be defeated queen crysalis would be destroying Equestria .Tirek would be free and none could defeat him. And cozy glow would drain out anymore magic that would still be there. Also starlight would still be in her village where she took there cutie marks. And without that none of the changelings would have turned to good. This shows that Equestria would be in great danger and could not handle all the evil and Equestria would be destroyed.
Sunset could’ve never stole the crown because the element of magic would’ve never appeared for the crown actually actually be stolen so that’s why there’s no timeline of her winning (Also if he said this I’m in the middle of the vid)
I think that the idea of the dry timeline is that Celestina has been defeated but every vilian was free, and comepeted for whom is the ruler of equestria, at the middle, everything was torn down, ponies are endangered, and equestria became a dry place, I don’t exactly know how the villains are defeated but I think that they were hold by the soul of Celestia’s army and light.
Maybe the wasteland came up because since all the villains succeeded they fought each other for power and eventually destroyed themselves and equestria
Here is something if the rainsboom happened later when she tries to do it again maybe sunset could defeat them in this one if she pulled apart the mane six
"wouldnt've stood a chance" pffffffffffffft its the royal guard we're talking about, a leaf could take over equestria if the royal guard was the only thing standing in their way
For some reason, (even though the title is “If Sunset Shimmer wasn’t defeated) I thought it would be about if Sunset Shimmer didn’t turn good. Like the memories the mane 6 had in forgotten Friendship
@Dead Channel 3 tings a) I’m think that occellus was like thorax I’m witch she never believed in the old ways of the chsnglings 2) in think that princess crystal result of them having sexual would be love interest to thorax after leaving the Changelingverse 3) chrysalis in Changelingverse = unbridge
Quite simple really( why a Sunset timeline wasn't shown)Think about it Sunset demom form happened in the Human World and not in Equestria, Equuestria Girls was released on June 13, 2013, and they already defeated Demon Sunset, and the events of them meeting Starlight happened after, and Starlight wanted to stop the Mane 6 from ever happening, which occurred in EQUESTRIA, and Twilight already defeated Sunset which happened in the HUMAN WORLD, and most of that alternate timeline were of villians in again EQUESTRIA if they were not defeated because there was no Mane 6
Biggest question is how the FUCK Sunny knew about the crown in the first place? She went to human land well before Twiggles was even made Celestia's student, so there is no scenario that she could have even known about the thing's existence (Let alone that it looked exactly like the plastic crown from her school).
I thought the wasteland one was reeeeeeeeally far back like as far back as the 3 tribes seperate, there are no ponies right the world was destroyed by wind things, I think
Though when the ZA(ZOMBIE ARMY) went through the portal theres be two of the ponies
So if they touch each other it will create a powerful source of magic which will send everypony to grogars past AND will messed up the timeline
BUT if they work together they will tell eachother when/what things they do/like
Heres another problem THEY ARE HYPNOTIZED So the cant go through that path they can only do one option destroy equestria AND its timelime and destroy any dimesion on its way included human world
But if they fought other speicies like CHANGELING or GRIFFON they will give ponies time to settle and prepare there lives
ofcourse one pony will wonder of and be part of their team so this path wont work
and so thats why theres no SUNSET timeline in the MLP
Idk remember the details and I'm late here but the equestrial human world.... sunset was unable to return the portal as it closed. Why did it closed? Did Sci Twi stole the magic from there or... during the moment of the time loop, it no longer existed that world as it probably was closed (after first movie of questrial girls) due to no one making it open (from the second equestrian girl movie) Why didn't it affected the human world when Twilight went a time loop? Unless it break off the world in order to remain unaffected the change from the other world? It came back after twilight resolved it, I'm not sure since it has a long time I watch it.
So many possibilities. It could be because of Starlight removing all cutie marks from Equestria, Tirek, Cozy Glow and Crystalis succeded, the Storm King succeded and all the villains Succeded.
Celestia's best student Twilight Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer was in second place. Sunset Shimmer may have been the "chosen one" if there was no other option. Sunset Shimmer also discovered friendship aswell. Sunset Shimmer might have been Princess...Where Twilight would turn into a Nerd researching in her basement with teenage angst.
I think we didnt see sunsetshimer in timeling because when the main six had been never met eachother soooo there wont be any crown of princess sparkle or atleast the crown wouldnt be on the table near the princess's bed
Heres what i guessed. It is her timeline cause she saw the magic giving her the spark of the magic causing the magic element to come to be. What do you all think?
Maybe it’s a unknown Character we never saw in the Show maybe the unknown character grab the Same Element as sunset And know that it was Powerless in the pony World so the unknown character went to the human world and Turned evil and went to the pony world and messed with Magic and was responsible for the corrupted timeline we saw
I know why! I know this is old but imma say it anyways. The crown and the element wouldn’t have been there at all if it weren’t for Twilight and her friends. So therefore there would be no crown! Am I wrong? Idk if that makes sense?
what if sunset stole the crown but was not caught so they didn't know where the crown was and they didn't know where it went until sunset came back through the portal as Deamon sunset so it plays out like this: sunset goes to the pony world then gets the crown but does not trip over spike gets out and gets past the guards right back through the portal and then they didn't know where the crow went then deamon sunset comes and creates the wasteland timeline
Do you know why Thorax is taller? My thought: The spirit of harmony knew that Chrysalis won't reformed, so... The Spirit of Harmony made Thorax taller :O
But wouldn't Sunset's victory timeline be plausible if only Spike didn't catch her in stealing Twilights crown? Because imagine, Sunset goes back to Equestria with the fake of Twilight's crown. Instead of accidentally waking up Spike, Sunset would maybe have been able to steal the crown, and place if with the fake without anyone noticing. She'd go back into the portal from where she came, and Twilight's crown would've either been a good fake or only be realized of being stolen the next morning. By that time Sunset has Twilight's crown. Everything goes as planned and Sunset with her army go to destroy Equestria. I might've missed some details it's been a while since I last watched anything related to MLP. But wouldn't Sunset's victory be solely dependent on if Spike wakes up or not in time? They wouldn't have any reason to believe it came from the mirror since no one was seen that night coming from or to the portal. They'd maybe just instead search for it in Equestria or the castle.
He should make a video trying to figure out what that unknown time like me is. He can use process of elimination. Make a list of all the times equestria was saved by the main six, then eliminate the ones that couldn't have possibly ended that way. U can also eliminate the time lines shown before (obviously). Eventually u should at least get close to an answer. Originally when I first watched the show I thought it was a result of tirek destroying everything because he's very capable but there was already a tirek timeline so that can't be. My next thought now is cozy glow, but that idea hadn't happened yet so the timelines could only take them to the present, not the future. You'd have to eliminate those as well. Now though, that timeline could've been a result of Starlight. If she succeeded in expanding her village to the whole of equestria, taking everypony's talents would essentially lead to trouble tending to land by farmers, trouble controlling weather, if she got to celestia and Luna the time would likely stay how it was when she took away their marks. If it stayed night then no sun would get rid of plants and food and everything. If it stayed night then this huge dryness would likely happen. I think I'm on to something here... Please make a video about this 🥺🥺🥺
Okay, if the villain version of Luna is Nightmare Moon, the villain version of Celestia is Daybreaker and the villain version of Twilight is Midnight, what would Sunset and Cadence be called. For Sunset, all they said was "she-demon". I know Cadence has never been shown like that, but still.
I think I know what caused the mystery timeline what if applejack turned evil in the future and caused this timeline because she does live on a farm and the timeline does look like a destroyed farm
My head cannon proves sunset could have actually succeeded in her plan without the main six.....when the games begin sunset could meet twilight and possibly become friends.twilight could talk about the capsule thingy and sunset could steal it out of greed for power then she would destroy the human world... i hope you like my head cannon this is my first one ever! THX FOR READING
I think sunset shimmer and her zombies done this to the waste land and that she was stronger than the royal guards so there for, sunset shimmer turned every single pony into a zombie but something defended it and no zombie was left including sunset shimmer. Idk what actually happened
@Alison H but we see pinkie pie in the chrystalis future. She's wearing all that green stuff and she's in the forest with fluttershy and zecora. So I don't think the lack of the rainboom made it impossible for pinkie to leave the rock farm. She even still has the balloon cutie mark. So she definitely threw a party that gave her that cutie mark at some point, so certain events still happen, just later.
1 like
Anna Cipher2021-09-24 17:08:42 (edited 2021-09-24 17:10:25 )
well if they didn't meet twilight again wouldn't have met the main 6 they wouldn't have collectively found the elements of harmony one of which was twilight crown and also twilight wouldn't be a princess and sunset wouldn't know how to get the element of magic and even if she didt i dont think she wpild have the power to get it and would have no reason to go back to the pony realm but also consider twilight and sunset are ruffly the same age sunset maybe a bit older but perhaps she wouldn't have ran away to the human world or met twilight all together: 0:22
the last timeline is because of all the villans attack at once I mean that first nightmare moon came and discord came and they fought and like that all the villans came and fought
What if it was all the badies mixed together even starlight could win because the 6 were not there to stop her and the storm king wold also played a lot of roll in it even tempest shadow could successfully win and film and flam and day breaker think about it they all tried to destroy everything and the 6 out of the way they wan. They destroyed everything one by one.
I think the last one was created by the victory of the shadow pony but without the mane 6 he wouldn't have came back again so I don't know but it could be the pony from luna's dreams but without the mane 6 it wouldn't have existed in the first place so I don't know. But wait it could have been if starlight herself wouldn't have been defeated that place could be the village she took cutie marks from so that is my theory
Maybe the sunset shimmers timeline happen because it has happened in the same way but if spike never triped her over she able to get to the mirror again them with twilight's crown and put it on her causing her to become more powerful than ever before, then she used her powers and go to the pony world with her high school zombies and rule the pony world so maybe that timeline had to be removed from because it was too dangerous for them to go because something drastic could happen to them. At least, that's my theory
Whoever is reading this: Your skin isn't a paper don't cut it Your body isn't a book don't judge it Your heart isn't a door don't lock it Your life isn't a movie don't end it You are beautiful and don't let anyone bring you down Be you.. Stay safe!!💜 - love from a small youtuber
Sawtooth did you forgot some Thing Sunset ask Twilight what Happens If you Take one Elemente of harmony to the human world? That means that If sunset Toke one of Them she had the Same Power as when she had the element of magic
I think you are right, but there is 1 more thing. Twighlight went to find elements without her friends but they came becouse they wonted, so if Twighlight would have go in the castle without her friends, maby she would find her element before nightmer moon camed Sunset would maby found it and take it and live to human world so then nightmer moon would came. But i dont know that is just one posibility.
Ok so the mirror. How did that become? And when Celestia and Luna saw it for the first time and when they knew it could be dangerus why would they not ruin or destroy the portal? That does not make any sence. If u had something laying around and you saw it was dangerous you would ruin or destroy it right?
For the wasteland I think that from the human world there is wars and everyone’s always fighting there so I think they may be replicating people that award me to have taken place in war there
Because it's starlight starlight wants to stop time and break the element when she stopped time then Sombra crystalis cozy glow and the other villains will have a chance to destroy Equestria
I think that timeline was grogars but there is a way it wouldn't happen. If gusty the great couldn't defeat him with two army's then I don't know what would happen. I could think more but that's everything I can think of
If Sunset has succesed because of Starlight, Starlight should go to the human world the time that demon Sunset was about to attack the human mane 6. Starlight should know that she cannot use her magic in that world. So she have to use a spell to stay as a pony or a magical gem allowing her to use magic. In the second when demon Sunset trows a magic ball to the mane 6, Starlight quickly trow a spell to teleport them in a far away place without nobody noticing her. Sunset tought she really kill them so she go to Equestria. Twilight couldn't go there because she is far away. Maybe the alicorns can try to beat her but they can't. The elements of harmony could of course beat her but without the element of magic and Twilight, it couldn't be possible. When Twilight came back to CHS, the portal will be already close. And she has to wait 30 moons to open. But maybe someone can secretely take the crown from Sunset's head so she detransform.
In the Plunger seed episodeThe element of magic was already there when celestial defeated nightmare Moon so why wasn’t it there when she was defeated and there and there has to be a spark
Okay so in the timeline of where it doesn't show anybody else but spike and twilight and the other pony who I forgot here is what I think happened So as you seen the other pony already has her mark so which means twilight was already the princess and where they are standing has the map which is in the castle so maybe someone from the pony world who was evil came through the portal and they were already strong in the human world maybe when human twilight was not defeated and she came into the pony world and destroyed the pony world
I think I know why there wasn't one because twilight sparkle didn't make friends and she wouldn't get the elements of harmony so there for sunset couldn't get the crown and the elements still would still be there in the castle of the two sisters.
I think there are 7 elements when we saw the elements as stone there were six and it can't be that the 6 one was magic because when 5 were put together the element of magic come
This is some weird thing but, if that universe was sunsets then that would bring to CHS and there would have entered the portal in the first place. But i was also thinking 🤔..what if it was grogars universe! We couldent haven seen him but it could be him & his rain of terror.
If the Mane 6 never got together then would be elements of Harmony never have been found again which means that sunset would have never gotten the crown which means that she would have never gotten the powers
I think I'm starlight and did this kind of timeline but she didn't have one she she just made up one and then then when she had her timeline all the villains got there their timeline but she got the element and then then the element was hidden in a secret place somewhere the element of magic I think so and my name is Alex by the way
BUT since twilight never goes to celestias school she never gets the so ments from the tree and never becomes a princess and there is no crown to steal so that's probably why
Wait how did Rainbow get her cutie mark in those timelines? If she got it from the rainboom and there was no rainboom, what event could've caused her to get it instead?
:O WHAT IF DAYBREAKER WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE WASTELAND! It may would have gone differently withkut the mane six keeping her under control think about A Royal Problem We can tell the sisters are equal in power in Starlights dream- And like Daybreaker said. "If Luna can turn into Nightmare Moon you can turn into me" I think that could be a possibilty. Tell me your thoughts down below. :)
If the maid six are not together the elements of harmony wouldn't be as powerful as with twilight and her friends so maybe elements didn't give sunset shimmer enough power to control equestria maybe?
We never saw sunsets timeline because EG was just a cash grab so they can sell barbies And it's sad because i really like sunset shimmer but i mean it's kinda true
If sunset plan did work she would’ve over thrown Luna and celesta probably Sealed them away or something because I’m the back round the the sun nor the mooon is up or shining, even if you don’t see the moon or sun the sky should atlest be purple or the sky should be blue (depends on if it was night or day time) but it was just gray, in this video https://youtu.be/_Dr4r9wwJ9A sunset tried to raise the sun with celesta and she couldn’t so probably when she took over she tried to raise/Lowered the sun and ended up destroying everything and that could explain why there is no villain in that time line (because everything is gone)
if something tiny line rainbows parents not cheering her on for her achievements, she wouldn’t have been so competitive and self-absorbed, and she wouldn’t have stood up for fluttershy and would have not stood up leading to her not racing so she wouldn’t have done the rainboom therefore equestria would be a mess and the mane 6 would never come together and they would be failed and twi wouldn’t be a princess and starlight would have never taken the crown but it’s not like twilight was even a student of celestia anyways
thats sunset shimmers time line i think heres the reason the mane six on that world has been gone and maybe sunset shimmer trapped them some where or buried them plus the sunset has been discorted so sunset shimmer as a villian made it like it plus the sun is gone and the moon to!?
Hell na if sunset could have just goes to the old castle of the two royal sister she would get the last easily because the magic spark was on top of the thing that was holding the old forms of the elements of harmony
But as in any other realm in mlp. Every world has each charecter identical Body. so we need to find from which world sunset is .as if she is from pony. Then there will be her equestria version to living in human world.
Yeah but if the rainboom didn't happen twilight and her friends wouldn't of got there cutiemark and the crown wouldn't be here it'll still be in the old castle probably destroyed which means sunset can't of put it on the portal what means there isn't any chance sunset transformed in to a she demon.
That spell that Sterling knows obviously is a big mature little practice that were sunset obviously it would take minutes to try since getting the right timeline of your right present of these for the beginning of it because everyone knows they have to search by the beginning I guess you have a point obviously and two that's all I got for you my name is Alicia inside you might want to see someone comments about it for the way you know so and also I like your video you're not bad honestl💙💛❤️👌🏻🏵️🌸🌊🌬️
I think that she would of succeeded because she DIDN’T want the crown. She wanted power. The crown was what she found but she could of found something even more magical. idk tho
Sunset shimmer was wearing the crown but the crown helped the mane 6 to defeated her so she cod not have won even if twilight and her friends didn't defeat her
She wouldn't be here bc the whole reason why sunset entered the human world was bc Celestia sent her there bc of envy but since twilight was never met the human world was never to be discovered and sunset remaind in equestria still with princess Celestia and I clear till there XD plus maybe there was going to be another version of sunset who would find the Portal and come to equestria trying to take the elements and instead of bullying them would bring them together and the human rwilight and the other human ponys would find the elements thus giving her the magic anyways hope u think this is okay to fit bye love your vids
Another reason for there not being a Sunset Shimmer Alternate Universe is, it just wouldn't be possible for that to happen. If the Mane 6 never met then there wouldn't be The Elements Of Harmony. So sunset Shimmer would never of been able to take it in the first place. Resulting in no evil sunset to the alternate universe and making a zombie Apocalypse. (Sorry for my English It's not my home language)
I think that the cause of the last timeline is because all of the bad guys were at once with no mane 6 to help them… it would be chaos! There would be a war with every treat, and celestia’s army too! The war would end up with a wasteland. At least that’s what I’ve grown to believe…😅
Maybe if Sunset met friends discover elements and either she betray them or they betray her so she would go to human world come back and steal element and destroy equestria. Or better if she replace Twilight and become evil and then destroy equestria
If the rain boom didn't happened twilight didn't got her cutie mark and she didn't got her crown so sunset didn't got her crown .so this means evil sunset shimmer wasn't formed .
I thought that the end timeline happened because of flim and flam destroying Equestria with machinery. They went to far and then poof everything was bad and then everything died or disappeared elsewhere.
Sunset wouldnt have even done this because if the main six were never together then twilight would have never founded the elements of harmony so sunset shimmer would have never even gotten the crown thus equestria girl would've never happened
I think it's because thats a Eqestria Girls Movie and not the classical My little Pony, cause there just a short time in the Pony Eqestria and after the Crown was stolled Twilight was in the Human Eqestria and Sunset dont know when the portal opened.
I don't understand Sawtooth that just don't make sense at all what will happpened to main 6 but there no timeline, how is there no timeline of her winning if she won what will happened to main 6 if they lose the fight to Sunset Shimmer but there biggest mistake is that Twilight become a princess of friendship that just too much for me if I was there holding the crown I'll be handed the princess of friendship if that happened to her will I feel bad for Sunset that why I'm strongest one alive still but...is this really true if there no timeline of Sunset Shimmmer winning I don't really see it at all but...that all I can tell. but what if Twilight wasn't the princess and the rainboom didn't happen in the first place and Sunset didn't become envy in the first time.What if Celestia was right in the first place about what happened to Sunset Shimmer will that all I'm telling now also I like your videos Sawtooth Waves bye!!! :D
Okay but if Sunset Shimmer didn't cause that we're dead timeline what did. could you defend a timeline all of it happen because in all the other timelines 1 villain one but if that dead timeline is where every single villain succeeded in their goal and then all fought that would cause a cat to drink event that would wipe out the entirety of Equestria
No offence but Sunset would never have won if the main 6 never met because if the main 6 never met then the elements if harmony would still be the stone spheres we see Twilight in the middle of in the 2nd episode in season 1. And because of this then the elements wouldn't have been made into the necklaces or crown therefore Sunset wouldn't have gotten the crown resulting in her never turning into a "daging she demon".
A problems with this the rainbow never happened so twilight never got her cutie mark that man is the friendship of magic never happened so how would she get the French of a magic if there was no fracture of a magic
What if starlight made a timeline where sun shut couldn’t Twilight couldn’t come and sun shirt meMate exact copy but I don’t have all the powers then she could make a Questria to dust
How about if it comes the 5 royal sisters with sunset shimmer and flurry heart and twilght wait I have an idea maybe first Celestia rises the sun and maybe sunset rises the sunsets and then maybe luna will rise the moon then twilght rises the twilghts and then flurry heart rises the hearts and her mom as well
If the rain boom had not happened then twighlite would not be princess the Elements were in canterlot well the mirror was in the crystal empire so was she but if the rain boom had not happens she and the elements and her friends would not be there sunset would have no reason to go to equestria in the first place
When i heard the question of what lead up to the waste land time line i thiught it kinda looks burned then i thiught what can bur stuff dragon in the episode were smolder and spike do the dragon race what if smolder dint win wat if that Red dragon won. sorry i dont realy now the names very well. he waned to bur the ponies what if an entier armi of dragon fought the ponies and we nouw how massive dragon can be and the emense fire power they have
i know this is late but i think the waste land is what pony vile would look like if cozy glow t reik and chrisley took over (sorry for the bad grammer)
IDK........BUT I THOUGHT OF GIVING MY SUGGESTION OF THE COMMENTS..........ACTUALLY A QUESTION !!................THAT IS........,SUNSET IS ORIGINALLY A PONY......FROM EQUESTRIA THEN WENT TO THE HUMAN WORLD .WHERE IS THE REAL SUNSET(I MEAN,THE REAL HUMAN VERSION OF SUNSET).......TWILIGHT HAD ONE.......SO CAN SUNSET........RIGHT?WHAT DO U THINK......
With out the main 6 meeting twilight would not become an alicorn and with her becoming an alicorn sunset would not get the twilights crown that’s why we didn’t see a sunset timeline
Wait sunset shimmer was mean at first then she became nice but I think she has still have the bad magic in side of her she must have went to the time line and changed it because sometimes she mean she must have been trying to keep the magic in side of her so one day she would roll the world with so much magic to beat the ponies
There will be no crown, Celestia. Because Night mare moon deport her. And Twilight will never get her crown. Without the crown, Sunset will never jealous of that. But your videos are great.
Actually your theory about HAL sunset shimmer and I’m sorry I can’t remember his name but that other guy are related and are brother and sister that bro that brother told sunset shimmer about the new princess she got an idea two feel the element of magic that wouldn’t of happened if there was no new princess 👑
If sunset shimmer wasn't defeated then she wouldn't be the person/pony she is now. The future would be totally different. Sunset would have conquered Equestria. Do you think she would have conquered the human world too?
Whta if discord came back again and Celestia and Luna used it and then discord was stone again and sunset came back and took the elements of harmony cuz we know in the past celestia and Luna where connected to it so sunset would of stole it and put it on and got the power of the element of harmony
Because she didn’t do it midnight sparkle did because she wake in the end of rainbow rocks twilight show up and then said she was going through time travel stuff that was a crazy the first crazy thing she ever saw so I think that was the episode were still like Weimer went back in time to stop them from eating and I think that one that the one where everything is destroyed timeline from strawlike glimmer is that when will the time that timeline She she at least succeeded and got to the portal well she broke the wall and broke the Equestria girls world and he succeeded I don’t know Ha ha ha what did she do but I don’t know that might be her but it’s just theory
either way it wouldn't have happened the main six wouldn't have met so twilight wouldn't have gotten the crown and it would have still been in the castle of the two sister's
I think that she did another way because there was also magic in the other world and their are copies of like the pony's applejack rainbow dash and yady yady yada what if it also copied the elements I hope this was a good thought for you.
Sunset did make that Wasteland should I have a reason why because she was jealous of Starlight Glimmer because she had a best friend and she didn't so she told her to leave destroy the land and everyone ran away so now it's just a wasteland😨
i think did not show her time line because she won because if you watch the video you’ll see the screen goes white so maybe they teleport into a dream and Sunset won and now they are living this Imagine World
Even tho Im really really late There was no magic in the highschool world cause Twilight never had frinds or became celestia's student that means there was no magic of friendship and no princess of magic of friendship so the crown didnt exist. Even is sunset came to get them their selves there is no proper magic in it :DD so thats why there was no sunset shimmer :DD
If the reanboom was stoppet the elements wud stil be in the everfreeforest and sunset kud have not turnd into a demon in the first Place so she wud not have a timeline 🙃🙂🙃🙂
I think that sunset was the princess old student all though she abandoned her studies I think she may not read the book but I looked at that one with flash century maybe he would of told sunset shimer since you said maybe the go in the portal to discuss what has an update and what doesn’t but I think that if twi life had never came I think sunset would have totally keep the six in human world apart like with rainbow dash rarity pinkie pie and the others so sunset could have had them in zombie form and they have night went through but I think you can be right but I also think if twi life and the others in the pony world have never met I think they would have been useless to the pony world and then sunset might get a little to much
Maybe Sunset Shimmer more evil Wasteland desert?: princess Celestia decided to defeat Sunset Shimmer with the Elements of Harmony: May sunset Shimmer stool all the elements
what if sunset never became jealous and instead of trying to go to the human world what if she made friends and she became the elements of magic and she wold have become an alacorn and have been a sussor of prencess celestia and prencess luna and could twilight pass her magic school enter exam and never became the princess of frendship
Wait nightmare moon was trapped in the moon how was she back I think Sunset shimmer let her free she must have been going to the moon then let her free then she stole the crown so I think that's how it happens when nightmare moon was defeated and sunset shimmer was angery that nightmare moon has defeated so she went there and tried to have so much power to roll the World but the poneys defeat her but she was nice again but or she has been faking I don,t know if that's true but that's all I have for now
i don't need to hate but if the main sex hadn't met wouldn't the elements wouldn't exist i mean yes they were stone but nightmare moon couldn't destroy them i mean if they haven't met maybe the crystals wouldn't exit conduct crystal were only loyal to the people they represent the element or maybe between sunset shimmer attack in canterlot high maybe that didn't happen yet in the timeline
Because if the rainboom didnt happen, twilight wont be a princess. She would be something else by stealing princess celestia or luna’s crown so ya....period
Maybe Because Twilight did not become princess celestia student and she didn't know about the sixth element so there's no reason for her to take over Equestria
what if wen starlight stoped the rainboom then twilight wouldnt get the elements of harmony and then sunset shimer woudnt go to the pony world becqause their wasnt the elemnts of harmony thats wy we didnt see the sunset timeline 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
The only reason why sunset with Roku cuz she was jealous of Twilight if Twilight didn't get her kind of Mark she wouldn't have been into celestia's stuff so then she can't be jealous so then she'll be nice and she can't take over the human world and that deserted world is when all the villains teamed up and destroyed ponyville
What if sunset shimmer never went that far because the reason for that is that is mabey she got jelly of tewighlight getting all the attention and if that’s the case twighlight would never be in magic schoole if rainbow didn’t do the Sonic rainbom
You are absolutely wrong this timeline has been created by all it is the timeline will this continue specialist broker and other equestria will be like this timeline
Because she done nothing evil in the pony world because she used the crown to go to the other world and it was only show pony’s and she didn’t go to the pony world when she was a demen and that’s like the only evil evil thing she did
What sunset shimmer did she went into the time when rainbow – made room and then stopped her tried to stop them from even getting cutie marks and making friends that could not get that they would’ve just not get the cutie be friends friends but they won’t get there cutie marks that don’t have cutie blocks
Ehem, twilight wouldn’t be a princess heck she wouldn’t even pass that big test that she had! So she wouldn’t even be a student at celestias school of magic….
But all the elements together make magic soooo sunset could just take all the elements and that would be magic...OH that would be friendship but she dosent want that ohhhhhh
It was because T rex T rex came here she must’ve drained every mass magic van every penny would be week one pre-Christmas came Wednesday and the magic that the ponies cream Christmas and have drained the love
Without money can i support this channel by joining instead? XD i have soooooo many mlp theories... And honestly you would be able to make twice as many videos you have now with "part 2"s as well. I've wanted to make my own videos but i am not great at that sort of thing. Honestly i would be better teaming up with someone that already does videos!^^ (and im not just offering cuz i am broke or cuz i want to make videos) but i honestly do feel like it would help the mlp fandom stay alive if there were more theory videos that people can watch and maybe make their own fanfictions from. And the longer you have MLP theory videos the longer the MLP fandom will be for people who write and create characters based off of said theories!! And the more people that are there that could help or brainstorm a theory or two means more theory videos over long periods of time! Heck.. if I can't help at least let me give you some ideas haha..
but also it probably didnt exist because sunset went after the crown, if twilight and her friends never met she wouldnt have gotten the crown and her turning into a she-demon have never happend
I don’t think that that desolate reality was the one that Sunset universe no no I’ve been taught that reality I was one where none of the villains were defeated and all of them wrecked havoc
It's because. If the main sex never met the Elements of Harmony will never unlock the sixth Element so sunset will never have twilight's crown that the sex Element is on it so she cant be a damon
I think so they both an to their true forms and their super powerful and I don't know what happen without them in elements of harmony I think so the elements bro
It couldn’t of been sunset shimmer because F if twilight wasn’t there then The elements of harmony wouldn’t be there either because the crown wouldn’t of gone on twilight Head and the crown one of even been there
K but why is nobody talking about if trixie wasn’t reformed if she wasn’t reformed and still had the alicorn amulet this means she could be powerful enough to destroy some of equestria
Maybe its because sunset wanted be the new ruler of equestria and I dad thinking ir más celestia 's adult in one of the comics of IWD ABOUT MLP TELL something about sunset history
you saying that why didnt we see sunset take over my little pony equestria because for the mean time in the human world they we're doing friendship games😀😀
Ummmmmm..... If their wasn't a mane six, then how would the elements of harmony even get activated? People. Why are the villain's mad at equestria? because of the mane six. Just saying whoops didn't even see the end of the video dumb me
yes yay yes yes yay thank everyone for your birthday thank everyone for the offer I please please thank you for the invite thank everyone for the invite please please come over for a couple hours thank everyone for your prayers thank everyone for the offer I hope you’re doing ok bye thank everyone for the offer thank everyone for the offer I appreciate you thank everyone for your offer I hope you’re doing ok bye thank everyone for the offer thank everyone for your offer thank everyone for the offer I appreciate it thanks bye
Speaking of the Element of Magic, why did it turn Sunset Shimmer into a demon? Based on her expression before and after the transformation, she didn't expected it to happen. Maybe because humans have some kind of magic of their own or the Element was somehow accidentally corrupted? We see the Elements "glow" black when the tree is attacked by Chrysalis' clones so maybe it's some sort of magical defense mechanism? Who knows!
Hi Sawtooth! i have a BIG question. We all know Side-Twi hasn’t really mastered friendship to be able to become an alicorn, and we know she’s a unicorn when she went through the portal. BUT, she had WINGS in the human world when she ponied-up. can you make a theory of this PLEASE? Thanks!
Ooooooh, love this— especially your analysis on how Sunset couldn't have gotten ahold of the Magic of Friendship!! But... there IS evidence that Sunset Shimmer was the villain leading to that particular future. You said that the "unknown future" is devoid of any structure from which to gather clues, but that's not entirely true. The only landmarks we DO see are ash-like dirt and burnt trees... as if a raging fire had taken over and burnt all of Equestria to a crisp.
I personally think the bleak wasteland timeline could be a Starlight future, where she took away everyone's cutie marks and plunged the world into chaos. But recently I've also subscribed to the theory that it could be a Daybreaker future. The creators have said that Daybreaker, while extremely unlikely, is a plausible scenario. Maybe in this timeline, after being forced to banish her sister, Celestia snapped, becoming Daybreaker and burned the entire world to the ground. Either scenario would be really interesting
I think the wasteland world was actually an alternate timeline in which magic drained from. Possibly Cozy's timeline? In this timeline Cozy Glow was shown friendship by someone else, and realized there was a strong magic in it. Then goes her evil scheme and then, the mane 6 wouldn't be there to stop her. She succeeds in draining the world of it's magic, leaving all the plants to die. You've already theorized about the earth ponies' magic with helping them keep plants alive, and if that magic was gone then who would keep them thriving? That's what brings me to my next theory. We know that the elements of harmony are the most powerful gems in Equestria, but what if the artifact magic got to draining? I don't think the Evergreen Forest would still thrive, since it still uses magic, even if it's a different type. If the elements did stay alive, then I do believe that they'd be able to keep the world from dying. However.. since they're technically artifacts, they'd be drained. Anyways, that's just my way of thinking. Hope this gets seen, even though I'm pretty sure it won't.
I think the barren wasteland timeline was if Cozy Glow, Chrysalis, and Tirek weren’t defeated. Think about it. They were pretty much destroying everything, and this was the one where the mane 6 mattered the most.
If they hadn’t become friends, the School of Friendship never would have been formed, and the young six never would have met, and they helped unite everyone to defeat the trio. Ocellus wouldn’t have even been there because we can assume that the Changelings never got a chance to reform, especially because Starlight helped them reform.
If they had succeeded in their plans, all of ponykind would have fought against eachother and eventually become a barren wasteland of nothingness.
Though this does bring up the problem with Grogar being Discord all along, as the motives which caused Discord to become Grogar wouldn’t exist in this timeline as the mane 6 weren’t united. But, it’s possible that Discord - who was still a bad guy - could have tried to revive Grogar and he might have been part of their team of villains.
I dont know if this was covered already, but the CMC should have gotten their cutie Mark's earlier when they helped Trouble Shoes, yea sure he already had his cutie mark, but he helped him find out what he was meant to do, just like what they did in the episode they actually got their cutie marks, and or the other episode where they helped some pony out. If that makes sense at all
My theory of the wasteland timeline is one in which daybreaker happens. For whatever reason equestria is able to defeat nightmare moon, but instead of killing her or even weakening her, Celestia tries to reason with her. Nightmare moon eventually unlocks Daybreaker within Celestia and the 2 get into a massive battle. If you notice the wasteland world doesn't have a sun but it's not lit in the blues of night. It's lit with a grayish twilight.. So what if both of the sisters ultimately died, leaving the sun in moon in an eclipse state, and the unicorns not remembering how to move the bodies themselves after so long reliant on the alicorns were unable to do anything.
Either that or starlights timeline, the area around starlights village was awfully similar to the wasteland seen there, though a lot better of course. If she could remove everyones special talents there'd be noone to control the sun and moon, nobody to work the farms, nobody to control the weather. She'd probably become very powerful herself by possibly absorbing the cutie-mark magic. She could probably hold things back from going south for a while but ultimately, even with all of those talents, a whole world is too much for a single pony to keep under control. If a villain comes, sure she could probably just channel all the magic together and defeat them, but nature itself? Not going to be controlled. As for the Everfree, perhaps it started expanding (which is why there's no ruins of ponyville or anything left) but eventually the environment got too hostile for it to survive, so it withered away and turned to dust.
Okay okay okay, roll with me, Sawtooth. What if Starlight helped RD create the Rainboom? And, because of this, the other kids thought she cheated, because of the use of unicorn magic? Then, the Main 6(i refuse to say Mane 6) come together because of the rainboom, and around the time of the first EQG movie... I dunno, I'm no theorist, you'd have to do most of the theorizing by this point; this is just a shot in the dark, y'know?
One topic I recommend is cozy glow , in a mlp song “coinky dink world” and other mlp videos you see a character that strangely looks like cozy glow. Yes Ik , there’s other characters that look simmealer but it’s still suspiciously looks same and sounds the same , another I recommend is why do the (wearable) elements look like the main sixs cutie marks
Can anyone figure out how Sunset learned of the Elements recovery in the first place. She had a reason to go into the portal to steal it, what tipped her off?
the video is, as usual, pretty interesting and cool, but... i notice how you don't touch the mlp comic lore pieces. can you explain - why? i just read alot of mlp comics lately, and there is a LOT of lore that is fascinating!
Im just now thinking about this while rewatching the entire show(again), but if starlight made it where the main six never existed, that would make it where her "=" town would still be in existence and starlight never would have went threw time to stop twilight and her friends who never existed. In other words, that's a loop hole of starlight time traveling to go stop the main six from ever meeting, so they never visit her town, so she never gets mad and tries to keep them from meeting each other so they never end up going to her town and again and again. I don't know what that effect is called but yah.. an infinite loop hole of events that never happened because one thing never happened because it did.happen.
I wondered why we didn't see Demon Shimmer timeline but then I start to think about it and it accurred to me that if Twilight never found the element Sunset couldn't steal it and she would be powerless.
What if the barren wast land was Trek's? Think about it, He drained every one of magic, with no one to watch out for the sun, the moon, and so on, The area would be devoid of sunlight which would grow the plants and feed the animals. Making the area a wasteland and have barely any way to thrive. The ponies would either be gone or have moved off weakly...
Isn't it suspicious that sunset specifically went to steal from twilight while she could steal the crystal empire heart which could easily been destroyed by the horrible weather
She didn't want to cause harm, she just wanted to become more powerful. She only wanted to cause harm after she was powered and corrupted. She stole twilight's crown because it was the most powerfull magic she could use, she couldn't use magic of the Crystal heart but she could use twilight's crown.
I like to think the wasteland was actually daybreaker’s doing because we all know that the sun is extremely powerful, and it can evaporate and turn our worlds into a wasteland
I think sunset had enough magic to get to the 6th element of harmony and teleport to the mirror but when twilight got her friends together, the element disappeared
THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENCE BECAUSE OF ONE PHRASE “not all friendships are as important as each other BUT i can show you what the world is like without mine” this could suggest that without the mane 6s friendship there woundnt have been anypony to stop sunset and thats what the world would be like if she succeeded 😱
There are two possible ways I think the last time line could have happened, welcome to comment theory. This one is gonna be short because there is not much evidence but for the first theory I think the final future was caused by all the villains fighting over who gets Equestria at once.
The second theory is that it was caused by the Pony of Shadows. This one has a little more evidence to back it up, the fact that the sky is dark around them is and that the Pony of Shadows wants to steal the land light and hope is a great indication. Plus the Pony of Shadows was a villain that appeared after the cutie re-mark, so if it was him the fore(shadowing) amazing. So what do you think was it cause by these two things or something else, leave your thoughts by replying and I’ll see you next time.
@Kirk Lundberg That’s a great theory, but here is why I don’t think it was the parastrites are responsible for the last time line. One, why are there no building? The only reason the parastrites started eating things that were not food was because of Twilight, but if Twilight never became friends with the main six then she would be in ponyville were the first parastrite invasion started. Second, why couldn’t they have just stopped it? We know there has been a parastrite invasion in fillydelphia and it was eradicated before it could spread anywhere else. And lastly, why couldn’t Pinky have stopped them? Pinky knows what parastrites are and how to stop them. We are shown that see don’t need the main six to help her do this either. She was able to defeat an internal army of parastrites single handily, so why couldn’t see do it this time?
I've always wondered how other creatures would look like in the other world, spikes a dragon and he turned into a dog but what about griffins, hippogrifs and yaks?
I think snip’s cutie mark is like twilights cutie mark , it had 2 reasons (Twilights cutie mark ) first it resembled her talent for magic and then it resembled her friends and twilight Similarly I think snips’s cutie mark resembles that he’s a big trouble maker and in that he might accomplish something related to freedom in the future
Sawtooth Waves do you remember the video of How Discord Came to Be well in that episode you said that chaos can be good for me the only question we have to think is how to show good chaos I think good chaos happens more at parties because if it comes in The better, the crazier the party becomes because in these types of parties we do not control our emotions and everything goes crazy which can be a kind of good chaos
Maybe it was Discord. I mean, he does causes "disorder". So, it might be a chance that it was Discord. But then yet again it could be any of the villains. Maybe Chrysalis when the changelings were let out to destroy Equestria during Shining Armour's and Cadence's wedding, like, it the Changelings weren't defeated. Yet again, its my opinion and everyone has different opinions.
Something that I wanna know is who was that big alcorn in mlp equestria girls rainbow rocks that destroyed the sirens.. was it a actual pony that is alive somewhere.. or was it an powerful ancestor from the past? or was it just a creation that the main 7 made from there friendship??
Well, guess what, regarding Sunset Shimmer or Nightmare Moon being undefeated, some mad lad is actually thinking to explore this in a fanfic form... in the most unhortodox way possibile in a diplaced human fanfic form.
I love your vids! I love your theories! Though I do think the Sunset Timeline couldn't exist because……If the rainboom didn't happen then the mane 6 didn't happen and if the mane 6 didn't happen then the element of magic didn't happen and if the element of magic didn't happen then "Princess" Twilight didn't happen and If "Princess" Twilight didn't happen… then … SuNsEt didn't happen…………
Sunset did depend on the element of magic to give her power.....And that is why she didn't have a timeline of her own....
What if in an alternate universe sunset was the element of magic before the rainboom and thus became the princess of friendship.She then could have become evil out of envy of celestia and tried to take over eqestria.If she had successfully taken over that timeline could have been a result of her rulership. Idk what do you guys think?
Sawtooth I have something to debunk your theory on discord's origins okay so basically the timeline was tyrick then discord and you said the discord must have been born as soon as the tree of Harmony came well here's the thing when tyrick got out and saw discord how did he even know who if he was mostly trapped hell before discord's first appearance this means that discord would know tyrick before bad writing I think not
Ok totally off topic of this video but I've been thinking about this a lot. I wonder if their names inspire their cutie marks instead of their cutie marks inspiring their names. Like think about it, What if the cutie marks were decided by the time they were named. Their cutiemarks knew in advance what their personalities we're gonna be like but don't come out until the ponies themselves find themselves.
This is based off of a video that you did back in 2015. I'm on my non-school account because my highschool has youtube on restricted mode.its stupid but imma be out of there in a year anyway. I really hope you see this and can do a new video based off of the theories.
I have a theory that the wasteland universe is a combination of all the villains winning I'm not sure how the rest would play out but the end, it would result in all the villains destroy all of equestria in their rein of terror. Thus this wasteland universe would come to be.
This theory is not about Sunset Shimmer herself, but about debunking the multi universe (I mean it is still a multi universe but not as many timelines). Take to account that “what if all the different timelines actually happened on the same timeline?” Thanks to Discord’s and Nightmare moon’s timeline (or should I say the second timeline Starlight created) that it proves that this is what really is happening. Basically in Discord’s timeline he makes pony vill all chaotic as well as clowning up Celestia and Luna. Notice something, in Discord’s timeline, he makes pony vill all chaotic as well as clowning up Celestia and LUNA.
If you want to figure the answer out for yourself then don’t scroll down. If you think you have the answer or just don’t want to try to figure it out then feel free to scroll down.
I am guess you don’t want to try and figure it out or just think you have the right answer and are just checking if you have the right answer.
Luna couldn’t have been there if Nightmare Moon never came back in that timeline (because Luna is not coming back as not Nightmare Moon) and was defeated. So what if Nightmare Moon did come back and ruled Equestria for a while, but then was eventually stopped. That is the only way she could have appeared in the Discord timeline. So what if in reality, all of the separate timelines really was in the same timeline. All the event like Cadine’s wedding and the retire of the crystal empire still happen and victory still happens, but the way it played out was different. Also here are two more questions could also make separate timelines. What if Discord was never reformed? Also, what if Starlight was never able to go back to the real timeline with Twilight (like some pony else stopped to stop Starlight from coming back with Twilight)? Also a another question (that will probably not effect the second timeline), how would you reform King Sombra?
My theory is that It is the timeline of all the villains from mlp as without the main 6 they all could have gotten together or have fought and killed each other and made it a wasteland and then none of the others sidekicks, good guys didn't survived.
THEORY IDEA: Ik that this isnt related to this theory, I have reason to think that Luna got married and now has a foal. I know this sounds really weird and crazy, but the reason I think this is because in the episode “ticket master” Rarity mentioned Prince Blue Blood. Princess Celestia’s nephew! A nephew is the sibling of ones child. The only sibling we know Celestia has is Princess Luna, meaning Prince Blue Blood must’ve come from her. Even if Luna wasn’t the only sibling, I think we would’ve gotten the memo that there was another sibling of the royal sisters by now. But for Prince Blue Blood to be a full grown stallion, he would’ve needed to be born way before! And who would be the husband of Luna? I’m sure you can continue this theory!
I have a theory.. When alicorns are originally pegasus, Their wings get the colored tip, this supports the theory that Cadence was orginally a pegasus, Cozy Glow had wings and when she became an alicorn her wings got tips at the end and flurry is just genetics-
Well Sunset could not know where the elements were and it wouldn’t be easy to travel far to get an element and it would take very long to get to the portal and she would get stuck in pony realm and if she did succeed the element wouldn’t be useful as you can tell it only works as a crown twilights wearing her element has a crown but she didn’t and she couldn’t stick a random crown with the element on it. So if she did say have a crown and somehow brought it back as a crown it would do nothing cause it’s not powered up. also she was very powerful remember she was Celestia’s first pupil so she probably knew how to get the element.
Sunset shimmer wouldn’t have been able to invade ecuestria in the first place any way and if she was smart like twilight she would have done what twilight was going to do anyway so she was able to do it to so there is a possibility that that is the sunset shimmer virshon becuse she could have obliterated every thin in eckustria.
If the mane six didnt defeat the mean three the cause was by three mythical creatures that break timelines They sooner destroy the castle they steal the crystal heart and slaughter the three princesses They then reveal themselves to be creatures from a world known as mythia They said that all epidsodes always end with the good winning so they destroy the final epidsode and let the bad ending to unvale They then use a powerful shcok wave known a hypernova and reveal crystals known as ultra phase crystals Then Pixie says: “wanna know what these are? They are weapons that DESTROY TIMELINES!“ they then use the crystals and destroy the mane six making them helpless skinny and boney earth ponies The last thing they do is they send a gamma ray and make the sun expand and consume everything around them and the story ends with the six burning in the ashes the creatures say “Your save files shall be glitched.“
Well, I actually thought. That if there is no princess twightlight sunset would be the princess of friendship because sunset was celistea's student before twightlight so I always thought if sunset made freinds and there is no twightlight Sunset will be the princess of freindship. sunset would have never even became bad after all
What if the real reason sunset quite her study’s at princess celestia was cause she was jealous of twilight... and if twilight never became a student sunset took over her place and found the 6 elements of harmony but because she took over the friendship role she couldn’t control it the way twilight and the others did so that’s why their wasn’t anything?
Equestria girls could go on but I don't really know why they stopped it, possibly the makers were focusing on the main story that by the time they came back it was ended?
Can you plz explain why the elements of harmony were turned from crystals to stones
0 likes
Daniel king2020-11-28 03:41:22 (edited 2020-11-28 03:42:08 )
Sawtooth I have a question a few days before you release this video Dr Wolf made a video that in it he with the help of discord went into the statue that Tirec cozy glow and Chrysalis are in to give them a therapy session so my question is do you think this is a good idea and if so would you maybe considering going with Dr Wolf for a session to try and reform these three with some of the methods you have done in your videos and if not could you possibly do a video on the fact that a lot of aspects in MLP FIM has to do with ancient Greece
Hi, I just wached a VERY old Video of yours about the Elements of Disharmonie. You thought the Amulet, where Sombras Alicorn magic is trapped, was the opposite of the Element of magic. But well we all know that's not true now. So now we have no Idea if the Elements of Disharmony exist. Could u try to cover that sometime? I'd love to see a respond or even a Video about it! :)
Maybe the waste land was Sunset timeline. The power from the Crown must have never been destored and their was powers withing the crown. And the power in the crown corrupted and destored Twilight's home. Having the pony's to live like animals in a forest trying to survie the changelings.
I think i have a solution for the waste land timeline. This might be the timeline of the sirens we all know that back in old pony time before the three tribes came together their fighting created a huge snow storm and almost caused full on destruction of the whole land. What if in the sirens alternate timeline they got the chance to cause the land to fight then used their power to go back to equestria and cause the ponies to fight and feed off that power. Maybe all the fighting caused the snow storm that once came a long time ago to rise up again but this time with so much fighting the storm came back really bad and not even the sirens could handle the snow storm beacause how much ponies they made fight. Then the storm got so powerful it wiped out the whole of equestria and ponies and the sirens. Soon the storm died down leaving equestria as an empty waste land. I dont know if this might be it its just my theory please reply what yall think of this theory? Love your vids sawtooth 😄😄😄
3 things 1 what about if someone else can replace the main six 2 what if sunset shimmer replace the main six see sunset shimmer is in the same school as twilight so princess celestia could send her to Ponyville and have like the same story as twilight 3 is possible that starlight glimmer It was the cause of this disaster. I mean, I think about it, she take away destinations from ponies and by doing that it could alter everything and cause destruction and that place could be the town of starlight glimmer.
The baren land could of been trixy, dragons, celestia goes crazy cause she had to banish luna and distroys everything, the land isn't baren really it just looks burnt.
You know I have an idea for your next video go to season 8 episode 5 look closely at the pony who show the granny’s where to land he has a horn but also wings could there be boy alicorns who knows?
I think like in season 9 three of the villians teamed up and almost took over equestria maybe all the villians teamed up and distroyed equestrua forever
Here: https://youtu.be/nTL5JONN0mM This video highlights that the last change of time, wait what do you call it? (the empty wasteland) is Starlights. And it is not in the present, instead, the future. After all of MLP, turns out Starlight is not reformed and tries to get closer to Twilight, so Starlight gains Twilight's trust. Then, she finishes her big plan that she planned all those years with Twilight, then DESTROYS ALL OF EQUESTRIA AND BEYOND. MAYBEE this could have actually aired, but maybe because it is rated Y7.
Hi sawtooth waves I know when is my little pony movie 2 rAs if all that news wasn't exciting enough, Hasbro also announced that an all-new My Little Pony movie will hit theaters Sept. 24, 2021!Nov 13, 2019
But if sunset didn't have a motive then she could have probably been trusted as a princess just like twilight. I mean if this didn't happen in "the last problem " we may have even saw sunset ruling eqestrea along side twilight
Is it me or when starlight got defeated we saw her secretly spying twilight like in season 5 episode At. She is watching them in the restaurant we can see her hair
listen I think that everyone thinks stygian is the shadow pony from castle mania , but it is timber wolves because their eyes match the eyes shown in the scene . Plus stygian was inside the shadow pony and was banished with him /
What if it was all of the villains because all of the timelines could combined
0 likes
Sai Medha2020-12-03 16:37:57 (edited 2020-12-04 07:11:07 )
Hey saw tooth plz plz see my comment.... I know y Luna turned into nightmare moon.....see the clip again when all 3 princesses-cadence Celestia and Luna gave thier powers to twilight when Teriek was stealing everyones power...in that you see that in Luna cutimark only moon disappeared not the dark background or magic around her moon cutie mark.... And in another clip when day breaker (Celestia) was formed in royal problems episode you can see that in Celestia cutie mark around her sun their is some yellow backround....but real cutie mark is only the sun.....plus I don't think that Luna directly became nightmare moon like u said in a video..but somebody tried to force her to rule and gain and told her to banish her sister....but who...? Maybe you can figure it out...
Oh.. I have one more question regarding this......when Luna was turned into nightmare moon she was banished into moon for 1000years and we saw how Celestia ruled everything..... But..... When Celestia turned into day breaker was she banished into sun for 1000years? And how did Luna ruled equestria? ..was she also banished by those elements....if Luna ruled equestria would she send twilight to Ponyville....? (Cause Luna don't pay much attention...) and would twilight find her destiny..? Would she ruled properly or equestrian is doomed?? And if suppose twilight didn't find the elements... Then the return of day breaker would be terrible or did Luna handled all those tasks..?how and how would equestrian would be in that state...??? Plzz answer my question....i love you videos plz like my comment if you like and I want to know you that I like flutter shy too much!!!! Plz make more videos....and if you would like me to give more ideas about your videos I would be always present in snap chat......plz chat with me if you like!?... Plz plz plz..... I would give you much more ideas.....!!!! My snap id: unknowngirl8790 OK!!! Plz plz say hi and tell me ur snap I'd also Plzzzzzz pretty plz......
I was watching some of your alicorn videos and I think that like alicorns have earth pony,unicorn,and Pegasi magic discord has magic from all kinds of animals (you can make a backstory I'm not that good)
something funny about the episode were applejack and Fluttershy went to las pegasus there was an male alicorns and he had a pair of wings and a horn so I think that male alicorns do exist but they work in other places.
Is toilet never became a Alcorn sunset shimmer might have become one because she was celestial surprise student along with twilight sparkle so you never know solicit could’ve sent sunset so much of the world before sunset shimmer escape through there
I have a question Why didn't sci twi become an alicorn when she went to equerstria??
0 likes
Nombre Apellido2020-11-26 22:05:39 (edited 2020-11-26 22:09:44 )
I have a question do you remember when apple jak said to rainbow dash about the pony of shadows to be the part of nighmare moon's shadow magic in episode 13 of season 3, but what if that PONY OF SHADOWS was the same evil that corrupted stigean (sorry for the bad writing) now that i rememeber the one who corrupted him was named that way what do you think about it?
Even tho there was no sunset time line maybe sunset didn’t win? What if sunset was able to get raid of that land but she was over throwin by the princesses. What if sunset maybe burned that land but she had lost the war and she did do that maybe we did see that time line but not sunset cuz she had lost. Maybe we all did see the time line where sunset burned the land but she lost the war and Princesses fell to in that time line I think we did she that time line where mlp’s world fell cuz of sunset and all the people died and the world was gone and was just a world of dust.
Wouldn't rainbow dash be a alicorn I mean she was the one who somewhat bought the main six together if it wasn't for her then I mean non of them would've meant right?
AJ Plays2020-11-24 17:01:23 (edited 2021-02-27 22:41:36 )
I know they are glitch’s but what if these male alicorns are under cover they are hiding who they really are and maybe there are not glitch’s there could be a chance that are hiding that they are alicorns since all are females maybe they are afraid pony’s will kick them out
I have an idea for a future video go to season 8 episode 5 look at the pony who shows the granny’s where to land he has a horn and wings could there be boys alicorns check out my second idea
Or its human twilight, she didn't need to meet twilight to make her device to almost distroy both worlds while going crazzy. And sunset shimmer never would of been there to help her control herself. I thought of that a while ago and who knows? Maybe its true or false. What do you think SawTooth Waves?
Now I guess your sister I’m saying attention to the movies because I like the specialist said that whatever her name is north of purple and blue hair that she would do that if you’re up for doing what you keep on changing the past so basically you were here and right
Hey sawtooth ummmm one thing I kinda noticed in season 3 or 2 so when the crystal empire was under attack I noticed somepony with cozy glows cutie mark soo maybe that could be her dad
Human twilight would of succeeded in taking over both worlds unlike sunset shimmer. Human twilight never met pony twilight when she made her device to absorb magic.
I think Sawtooth Waves videos in the last future that starlight open is that the sky is little yellow and kind their was a war and full of sand it means that their are already bodies turn to sand because they died in the war so that the last Future is showed that their was a war between human zombie ponies and ponies from the real world and that is my thinking about the last future in starlight glimmer's spell
i think she could of been in the time line with out twilight because, sunset is technically twilight but in the human world so if she befriend pinky pie, rainbow dash, flutter shy, rarity and applejack and bring them to the pony world they can get the magic of friends ship stuff and take over Equestria but that my theory and their a bunch of gapes so lol XD.
Please see all the timelines the timelines Nightmare moon was exceeded the never a woman's of harmony was found with Mike ramones how to just give up again a sister so was there was then known as that such that I don't think so so stable survivor that attacked
I have a question that you might want do a video on watch Friendship is magic part 2 and Princess twilight sparkle part 2 And look at when! When nightmare moon is turned back into a princess Luna in Friendship is magic part to she looks a really young but when it shows her getting turned into nightmare moon in princess twilight sparkle part 2 She looks as she does now!
Find some clue I know it is it look like it Queen chrysalis skills training then then then they are printed all the colours and the shoes make the 930 as it turns into evil and then just for the right or no
What for an use has the cutie mark of sunset shimmer it looks like celestia her cutie mark so is she meant to be the princess of the sun and later be an alicorn?
I have a weird question so here it goes why dose rainbow dash holded twilight in her part like in the epesode power pony rainbow dash said "twilight!" and then she holded and were suked in. So yeah weird
Intensive Simba and think he did not succeed in the men's don't don't disturb me without the rainbow but percentage summer comes in the even then she can be a princess Twilight to not feel the starlight students
For the barren wasteland timeline, I think it’d be interesting if the cause of that was the dragons as the result of Garble winning the Gauntlet of Fire and becoming Dragon Lord. Remember he says specifically that as Dragon Lord he’d “take whatever we want from Equestria and burn the rest”. I think it’s unlikely that the dragons could succeed against the Equestrian military and the princesses, but not impossible. Garble’s pretty ruthless and fairly popular among his dragon peers, his reign would probably be more actively militaristic than Torch’s. So maybe this barren wasteland is just what Equestria looks like now and the other kingdoms are still around!
Before watching your video, I quickly theorized about this scenario and I agree with you. My guess, she would have sought out another powerful artifact, like the Alicorn Amulet, gone to the Well of Shade, sought a way to become a Nightmare like Nightmare Moon or discovered Grogar's Bell.
Base on her desire for power she would have continued her search until she came across something, or someone with greater power then her, leading to the final timeline.
Idea for what caused the alternate timeline: Starlight from that timeline tried forcing everyone into sameness, succeeded, and with no one to raise and lower the sun and moon, the planet froze and burned. My guess for why they didn’t die of exposure to those extremes is the map. The map created a clearing around it for Nightmare Moon. You can see some perfect cuts in the trees around it, almost as if the map made a forcefield around itself to destroy the trees, so it wouldn’t be intersecting them, and so Twi and Spike wouldn’t be trapped in the ever free forest. We know that the forested areas are often too dark to see anything, but there was moonlight in the clearing. I may be looking into it way too far, but until proven otherwise, I declare this headcanon acquired.
Seeing how dangerous invasions from other realms are, a winning Sunset might have somehow managed to stop timetravel from affecting her Equestria. Maybe an alternate Sunset would have somehow found the memory stone or managed to steal the pendants from the Dazzlings. Both could be dangerous enough to allow her to conquer Equestria.
Great that we finally get representation for Pegasi. What will be next? Kirin, Zebras or Batponies/Thestrals/Cavalum (or whatever you want to call them)?
I mean, for all we know, that apocalyptic timeline could've had different bearers for the EoH due to the original bearers never meeting, and with those different bearers existing, perhaps Sunset killed them after obtaining the element of magic as I'm sure that's what her original plan was in EG, either enslave the bearers like she did to the rest of the school, or kill them
So it's still a possibility that the apocalyptic timeline, was because of Sunset, and she only succeeded because Twilight wasn't there to convince her to change her mind and Sunset killed the other element of magic bearer
0 likes
Jay Stabs2020-11-21 16:54:21 (edited 2020-11-21 19:56:45 )
Nope, you hit it on the head. The second you started on your breakdown I was like, "Wait, wouldn't they have all needed to be together for Sunset to even get the EoM in the first place?" I've always thought Sunset's plan was a little flawed, but that doesn't really stop me from liking her as a character. ^_^ By the way, I have to ask— what's up with Syannax and YoshiDarkLord that you always facehoof when you say their names at the end? XD Edit: punctuation
I feel like the last timeline could be Sunset's timeline, the ground and trees look burnt. Sunset's represented as a phoenix.
As for the sixth element, I don't think she'd need it. There's magic in everyone right? Whether they're a human or a pony, there's magic to some degree in them. You can see how Tirek absorbs magic, there's most likely a spell that Sunset might have learned to absorb the magic in the human world and go on to do the same in Equestria and eventually become just as powerful as she would be with the elements.
Tirek went all around Equestria and absorbed all of the magic in the creatures, and it took the Mane 6 the extra power of the Tree of Harmony to beat him. If there was no Mane 6 and no 6th Element.. No one could beat Sunset with the magic she would've had. And remember the magic she has is twice the amount Tirek had. The Human world is like a parallel universe to Equestria, so it makes sense it has the same amount of magic.
And the burning, I think she tried to gain too much magic and it all built up and exploded, causing a giant fire. I think everything has a magic limit, and once you exceed that limit (very difficult to do so, so we don't see it in the show) your living form bursts because the power is too much (kinda graphic don't you think?). Sunset did this, and because she's represented as a phoenix, I think she became fire and it spread throughout Equestria, burning everything to a crisp.
Along with the fact that we can see clearly that Celestia isn't even close to the power of the elements, Sunset could easily overthrow the two sisters and out of anger, burn all of Equestria to a crisp. I think when Twilight and Starlight went into the last timeline, they walked in on Sunset just finishing burning the land. There's dust and smoke in the air and everything is dark and burnt.
i love this topic so much i wrote 4 paragraphs on it, i could go on and on. if you see this sawtooth and you like it feel free to use it in a video :)
Although I am intrigued about Sunset's victory, I have a theory about the desolate Equestria. Maybe Garble became Dragon Lord and commanded all Dragons to pillage and exterminate all the other creatures like Ponies, Yaks and Hippogriffs for food. What do you think?
My hypothesis of the wasteland timeline has to do with the sleeping dragon that was spreading soot across the land. I thought that this guess seemed the most logical since it looks like the land is covered in soot or grey dust.
I've always thought that the devastation of the last timeline was caused by Midnight Sparkle because the events of The Cutie Re-mark and The Friendship Games were happening at the same time. The human 6 weren't able to stop the corruption of Sci-Twi and she ripped a portal into Equestria, consuming all the magic, leading to the death of everything.
Well I think the last timeline might have actually been Cozy Glow... Ok hear me out! So in the episode Cozy Glow's plan was to take all of the magic and its shown that their society is very dependent on magic so what would happen if it actually DID go into the vortex? No matter what anyone did the world was doomed to fall because of what Cozy did because their crops would fall, the weather wouldn't be able to change and the sun and moon couldn't be moved anymore so it would eventually lead to the fall of Equestria
One thing a lot of people overlook is the fact that Principal Celestia and Vice Principal Luna were also under Demon Sunset's control, meaning her army may well have had two additional alicorns.
I'd also say you're right about it being logistically impossible for us to see a timeline where the elements were never broken out of stone and Sunset wins. But that's narrowing the focus to just the timelines caused by Starlight going back in time to change things. It's still possible Sunset and her small teenage army (give or take some alicorns) could have succeeded, it just wouldn't have been a timeline Starlight altered.
Agh, you beat me to it! I have an episode in the works about this too. Though I feel I go in to more detail. I haven't been able to finish it, though, cause I need some scenes animated and haven't had any luck finding someone do it.
Here's a few question to try and solve: 1. How do pegasus do the sonic rainboom? And can anything other than them do it? 2. Does Trixie get corrupted by the alicorn amulet or does she use its magic to fool the mane 6? 3. What ARE memory stones in equestrian girls?
I think that last timeline was something from beyond either of the known universes. Since it looks as though all of equestrian was burned to the ground, I believe that the final timeline was Ragnarok taking place. Either that or the Eldjotun (fire giants) decided to enter Equestria and burn it to the ground.
I always felt that the wasteland timeline was because Celestia had to fight Nightmare Moon. But not being able to face her again, she destroyed herself along with her sister causing no one to be in control of the celestial bodies. This wreaked havoc on the environment, destroying all live. Dark, I know, but how else could that wasteland happen?
As always you have given us an amazing video, thank you for that however I have to ask what's with the feathers in your OCs mane? I mean they really remind me of a character from an anime/manga that I read so I just thought I would ask
We could have seen her time line cause each one went to a different villain Which meant the main six did come together but may have fallen apart in there friendship due to the many conflicts they did have within there journey
What if that wasteland was a time where all the villains decided to work together. Instead of one villain per timeline. This one is where they all decided to strike simultaneously. Tbh if they did I can imagine nothing bein left.
i mean if sunset never envied twilight getting celestia’s attention, she probably would have continued her studies and never entered the mirror. shes as strong as twilight, but since she doesnt under the magic of friendship LIKE twilight, she would never fully become celestia’s prodigy or heir.
but it would be fun to imagine sunset as the main character instead,, in any one of those 7 timelines,, sunset could figure out different ways to defeat the big bad that doesn’t involve a rainbow curbstomp. but instead slowly learning the magic of friendship with the mane 6 minus twi and then using the elements to help return equestria to harmony.
well you know you have a good point there and you are correct but what if there was an alternative...as we all know princess celi was able to banish her sister to the moon for a thousand years and that's a long time. so sunset would be able to rule for just about a thousand years before it wore off. tell me what you think in the comments below
Wait, but you said that Celestia would've used the Elements of Harmony to defeat Luna, and considering that she'd eventually would have to return them to the Tree, wouldn't that give Sunset the opportunity to steal them? And considering that her name is 'Sunset', and that there is no sun in the final timeline, could've it been possible that she caused the sun to disappear by defeating Celestia, thus having the world die off?
If sunset took over, everyone would be brainwashed, including Celestia, Luna, and Cadence. She would turn the princesses into her lesser demon servants, and force everyone to live under her intense grip, executing all who failed her. She would eventually search for more worlds.
You know what's funny? I'm friends with Darthsylar-12 and I'd say that this channel and pony, Sawtooth Waves, helped create a friendship. ^^ Thanks, Sawtooth. Bro hoof.
Pretty sure it wasn't Sunset, but I almost think that it was a nod to the Fandom, and specifically Fallout Equestria. If that's the case, then while some things would be notably different, the war between the Ponies and the Zebras would have still happened.
It's likely that Stable Tec wouldn't exist, or at least wouldn't how we know it. Apple Bloom may still have been the brains behind it, but I have doubts that Scoots and Sweetie managed to become life long friends with her
It's also likely the ministries didn't exist. Without Luna there to take over, because it's likely that she was rebanished, a brokenhearted Celestia likely had to lead her country.
Now, again, this is a theory based on the idea that they gave a nod to Fallout Equestria.
Well, it's pretty simple if twilight never made those friends she would've never had the element of magic crown so sunset would've never gone through that portal to steal the crown from twilight, and without twilight and her friends getting the elements they would still be in the old castle of the two sisters and I doubt sunset would travel all the way over there and she probably wouldn't even know that is where the elements are.
About your theory sawtooth, I have a theory of my own.
What if we did see her ending but since starlight did make one mobe that disrupted twilight future causing twilight to not be the 6th element but instead sunset was the 6th element magic. Making her not find the portal to the human world, but instead of using her power for good she used it for her own benefit sucking equestria dry and the last ending was sunset's.
One more comment because I realized something. What Starlight did in Equestria with the time traveling, actually absolutely no effect on the human world. And here's the proof. At the end of The Friendship Games, Princess Twilight comes through the portal saying, "I am so sorry I didn't get here earlier. I didn't get your messages until just now because I was caught in this time travel loop, and honestly, it was the strangest thing thats ever happened to me." Time Travel Loop. That is enough of proof to show that all the new presents that were being created by Starlight were happening at the same time as the Friendship Games. The Friendship Games foreshadowed the season 5 finale with that line from Twilight.
I have to wonder...would Principal Celestia and Luna be included in that zombie army? And would they turn into alicorns upon going through to Equestria? If so, her army suddenly becomes much less of a joke I think.
i'm not sure some of the alternate timelines where with the rainboom since some of the main 6 cutiemarks in the alternate timelines are the same as prime equestria so the element of Magic still "woke up" in those timelines
I think sunset shimmer may have destroyed equestria and most of the structures using her newly gained powers. Now imagine how strong she could get using grogars bell
Technichally, none of these timelines would be possible because if Starlight made them never meet, then the main six never would have come to the village to make her activate the spell.
Please make a video about what happened with the young 6: the easygoing Sandbar (Earth Pony), the gruff Smolder (Dragon), the sarcastic Gallus (Griffon), the shy Ocellus (Changeling), the cheerful but clumsy Yona (Yak), and the hyperactive Silverstream (Hippogriff/Seapony).
If we believe that 30 moons is 3/5 to of a pony year and that it is enough time for equestria to be put in danger, then maybe that last AU (Alternate Universe), might just be the result of an attack or the outcome of Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy Glows attack if Twilight didn’t come to help them
Here's a what if scenario. What if Sunset never left Canterlot and remained Celestia's student? Would Twilight have been trained next to her? Would they have been friends or rivals? How would they have influence each other?
It is not clear which magic evil Sunset would have used to bring the zombie teenage army to Equestria. She was quite powerful when she wore Twilight's crown. Suppose that she found a way to lead the human army to Equestria. But instead of changing into ponies, the teenage army stayed in human form. Considering that she was a maniac, her intention was to kill Twilight with that magical laserbeam, she could have equipped her army with guns, leading to a massacre among Celestia's army. And with the final scene of a desolate Equestria, Sunset could have brought in a bomb of mass destruction. A sort of atomic bomb but then filled with dark and destructive Equestrian magic.
So here is my timeline/theory Sunset never found the 6th element but she used the other 5 to get just as powerful to make her army but the royal sisters differently her (Luna never was nightmare moon) but before she was banished she escaped into the human world and became the sunset that bullied the mane six and she still had her power well half of hit some was spread to the mane six of that universe so they never got there powers from everfree and they basically stoped sunset and set her back to where she came. And no there is going to be commands and you must do it in a Batman way not voice but how Batman can do a long explanation in one breath
Ok wait. Random thought but could it be possible that the elements of harmony aren't truly gone? In the episode where the student six make the tree house ocellus and silver stream held up two halves of the element of kindness. If you remember at the first episode when night mare moon shattered the elements twilights spark of friendship made the get fixed! So maybe the elements are able to heal over time or the healing could be accelerated with that.... Spark. The friendship spark, that magic spark. They can't be gone forever, they just can't be.
I think that WAISTLAND could have been the victory of... THE PONY OF SHADOWS! Here is my theory. When they got to (I forgot the name) where they banished the Pony of shadows... It was basically a waiste land. No pony lived there. Plus, they said that the location was entirely corrupted!
That time line was caused because:ponies slavery because of night mare moon ,no tree's (flim n flam), chrysalis soked love,same with tirek n magic witch caused ponies to go extinct (and other creatures) And (this is for a little silliness) the creators forgot about sunset
I feel like it wasnt mean or toward anything I think it was just to show that equestria would be nothing without them To show AFTER all of the things it showed in all possible outcomes would lead to destruction eaither way if she continued what she was doing If anything i find that sunset shimmer was the most weakest villian and no offence but more stupid as well Hard to explain
When Sunset stole Twillight's crown later one in the Equestria human world sunset became a friend to Twillight and she did have a magical book that sent messages to Twillight in the pony world but sunset did have some time lines 📚 Magic 🍎Honesty ⚡ Loyalty 💖 Generousity 🐇 Kindnes 🎉 Laughter
My theory for the barren wasteland is think of this, without the elements of harmony maybe the windigo's came back somewhere along the line. Notice the barren wasteland where nothing grows but also no one lives, the ponies are extinct, everything that used to live is gone because of the fearsome snowstorms that the windigo's bring killing the plant life and with no food humanity as well. Maybe that wasn't the past maybe that was the moment when Crisalys, Tierek and Cosyglow started taking over equestrian, without the elements of harmony. WITHOUT THE SCHOOL to teach everyone to work together the windigo's come back they are unable to stop them and equestrian gets wiped off the map.
Edit: and without hate the windigo's vanish leaving nothing but dust and dead.... Well everything.
0 likes
Stark Solutions2020-11-23 05:29:52 (edited 2020-11-23 05:32:44 )
And even if that scenario happened, well, Sunset would have to deal with the Plunderseeds soon or later... XD In which, or she gave the ELEMENT OF MAGIC + the other elements, or she would have no kingdom to reign. XDDDDD. Dude, that was a good one. That's something very interesting to be explored, with many possibilites.
Hey wait... Sawtooth, if the rainboom never happened, what about the Dazzlings/Sirens? They likely would still have been banished to the human world, as the rainboom didn't cause that, but what about the time after the pegasus race? Time in the human world seems to function the same way as in equestria, and if not days in the human world = hours in equestria(i don't know if that's important or not). I think that without twilight and the human counterparts of her friends, the dazzlings would have taken over the human world. But would they find a way through to equestria? And would their rise to power trigger the series of events that caused the rise of midnight sparkle, too? I'd like to see that face off! Another thing to note is that midnight sparkle probably wouldn't have been defeated either, because sunset wouldn't be there and spike-who-was-never-a-dragon wouldn't be able to talk. I'm getting too far into this..what do you think?
I dont think without the element of magic sunset could have cause the plain of burnt trees and ash. I do wonder however if it could not have been caused by Daybreaker somehow
But then again, if the mane 6 didn't unite the crown or the elements would necessarily be present, well they would but not in the newer forms, and if that's so sunset wouldn't have been able to access that power, so she would most likely be in that world but without the crown existing in the first place, she would only remained a school bully.
Wait... The elements would be hidden and Nightmare Moon or Dark Luna would be in control... princess Celestia would be in Moon.... She wouldn't be able to teach Sunset shimmer nor tell her about the portal... Which would mean sunset would never be able to think of that plan... She might have been a solider or a subject to Nightmare Moon.... But she wouldn't even know the elements, nor the portal. And all the other villains would be able to take control of certain parts of equestria
Sunset Shimmers Endgame might've been a major disaster It's only a theory that she was strong enough but might've been outnumbered from the crystal empire so she knew only one thing to do
Yeah without that boom-boom Sunset would have no way of obtaining that power- In fact, I don't even think she would have had a motive in the first place! That waste-land, I personally think it's because of all the war and destruction brought about without the six friends.
Could you think about why cozy glow wanted to transport all magic of equestria to another realm? Is she from another realm? Why she couldn't absorb it all?
if the mane six were defeated there wont be a point so twilights element of magic wouldnt work but what about celestias? she was betrayed by her why not take her crown? the baren place can be possible of the war sunsets power with celestias crown would be so much damage her motive was power so her power grew and grew... destroying everything BUT she ended up destroying the land nothing to rule she ended all of it years after it grew to a waste land
Hmm so here's a thought what if the barren wasteland was actually a timeline of if celestia and luna were never actually alive cause before celestia and luna it was 6 unicorns who raised the sun and moon but without them the sun and moon wouldn't rise and if the sun was what was up when the unicorns no longer had the ability to move the sun and moon then it would cause catastrophic disasters to the land and atmosphere making one side of there planet so hot it would burn everything to ashes hense the dust being blown around and the brown clouds are really dust and water mixed together with no ability to actually precipitate due to the constant heat from the sun
I kinda feel the last area was so empty and dark beacuse the powerfull villains including Nightmar Moon, King sombra, Lord tirek, Queen chrysalis and even discord had a battle with each other cuze all of them wanted to be the ONLY one who rule the Equesteria so because of their battle they all have been defeated som how and there was nothing else left except an emptiness and darkness...
But how would Sunset Shimmer ruin Equestria if she was defeated because they were in the future then the one that ruined Equestria would be king Sombra
sunset wouldn't have had the chance to become the she demon cuz if the mane 6 never met the element of magic wouldn't be revealed, neither would've the other elements.
The reason we didnt see the sunset-timeline is bc, twilight did not become a princess, and the element of magic was still nowhere to be seen, witch means she can't sunset cant have gotten the element to the human world, Twilight never came to that world to get the crown bc the crown was still in Equestria!
I'm pretty sure the last timeline was because of discord somehow STILL coming into contact with fluttershy and then still being set free from friendship by tirek
Let's talk about Starlight glimmer why is she so powerful and remember when the mane 6 visited Starlight's village back in the end she had a spell she sudied for years but could never do
You said about a waste land,right? Well,Did you miss the part where twight said it was because of starlight.
0 likes
EG and AJ2020-11-22 02:08:12 (edited 2020-11-22 02:10:48 )
Twilight did not become an allicorn. That might change stuff from what we see in the movie, where Sunset tries to steal her crown which would never be found like the elements and Sunset would not have an army of zombies. Just think about it. Edit: I did not see the whole video yet before making this comment.
Remember sunset shimmer's power.in that timeline there was no sign of life there wasn't even a sun or moon I believe that was the outcome of evil sunset
My theory before I watch the video So I’m like a couple seconds in and I wanna answer why there wasent a sunset timeline Now sunset put one the crown and become evil But if twilight and her friends where never there there would just be the elements but not in their necklace/crown forms That would mean that sunset couldn’t steal the crown and she would never be evil Reply if you like this theory Edit: soo umm I am basically half way through the video anddd well I basically just typed out what sawtooth said
Is it possible its an evil celestia time line? Daybreaker could potentially have been the reason why we see a barren waste land. A land scorched by the sun?
Theory drconoques existed and discord looked similar enough that people called him one and then they went extinct Theory 2 there is a spirit for everything and they take different forms and discord chose to look like this and been so long he forgot he is the chaos sporit
I'd say that the baren wasteland could have been the parasprites. I mean they eat everything soooooooooo, they could have multiplied and eaten all of Equestria then gone extinct due to lack of food. Just an Idea.
Sawtooth Waves: remember the prophecy 'when the five are present a spark will cause the sixth element to appear That was Twilight SPARK ME: Thats why they named her Twilight Sparkle TO make the spark
The 7th timeline could be that cozy glow transported all equestrian magic to another realm leaving it without magic causing what is shown at 7th timeline
It is all the timelines. With about 6 timelines of course their is nothing there. Equestria was doomed and the villens would have caused so much damage. The timelines are the same. Each Villain killed each other. Last got bored
How will Sunset know where are the Elements of harmony. Only if she knew where the Elements of Harmony were she could find them. Can you also make a video on how the Main Six got the same Cutie Mark after Starlight Glimmer changed the future cause there has to be an explanation of all of them have the same Cutie Mark they had before the changed future. Anyways Great Video.
If the mane six never met, the elements couldn't have formed into the crown and necklaces they are today and said crown would have never been able to make it to the human world, having not existed, resulting in sunset shimmer graduating and peaking in high school to become a drug addict attempting to use Human Resources to make a potion that lacks the magic that goes into it, trying to recreate magic without knowledge as to how.
You always know all about my little pony and everything.
0 likes
Book Thoughts2020-11-21 17:42:34 (edited 2020-11-22 18:37:28 )
Cause there was no crown within her reach I bet. If there even was the elements of harmony as six ponies, whoever they would be in the alternate timelines, a timeline where she is able to get ahold of the crown would be rare and few between. Like if noob minecrafter tried to find diamonds without any help or clue. So she would be without the crown for several timelines and/or never get it, ie impossible mission or it never existed as the crown. So if such a timeline where Sunset took over did exist, I doubt that barren timeline is the timeline where she got it, because I think it would take at least a 100 more tries at getting rid of the Rainboom to reveal a timeline where she succeeded. The barren timeline might've been the result of all the villian's fighting for control of Equestria or. . . Gulps and holds up Daybreaker picture this coming into play. . . Neither are good with the second possibility being worse than horrible.
Why is always the Equestrian militairy/gaurds a white unicorn/pegasus? There’s only a few of them that are gray unicorns sometimes, and the ones in the Crystal empires is always like purple or light blue or something
I also think we didn't;t see Sunset Shimmer's timeline was because she came from a different world. All the timelines we saw were from Equestria. But Sunset comes from the human world. :)
I mean, The military isn't very good in MLP. Plus hypnotism can render them completely useless.
It could have happened if Celestia made Twilight (or someone else she trusted) with the Alicorn Amulet. Like with no other choice she went out of her way to find it and gave it to someone she trusted. Given how the amulet can't be removed without the barer giving it up this spells so much trouble with Sunset.
Now before anyone says anything about how the Amulet would have a different effect in the EqG verse, with the sirens, it has been proven that not all magic becomes different in that world. This means Sunset would get the power of the Amulet and becomes even more corrupted ruining Equestria...Still I don't think she will take it that far as to make everything dirt and ash. She is still flawed and when shown another way, it is possible for her to be persuaded to take it off...
Or maybe an insane red manticore plays a part of draining her or something...
The reason that you didn't see sunset 'cause of the main six the ellement of magic became the crown. THAT never happend so.... No crown no sunset dragon creacer
Sunset simmer might even have still been Celestias pupil still because celestia would hide it father in the castle so that no one could find it except for her and maybe Luna and celestia could explain to sunset simmer and maybe she'd even be a princess in that timeline well failing at certain times in the different time lines
I think that this time line was created by evil Celestia , maby Luna didn't become evil in this future and Celestia did and their fight ended out with the destruction of Equestria
Maybe that timeline was when the dragon was asleep and snoring causing black smoke to cover the sky and the mane 6 didn't go wake the dragon? Because there was no sunlight the land suffered and crops didn't grow
Ну, знаешь, если у нас были миры со злодеями после найтмер, возможно элементы как-то появились, так что технически линия Сансет могла бы быть. Просто Сансет в другом проекте,в EG, поэтому её не добавили, вероятно
I an idea about that last timeline, now this is crazy but what if that was the "cozyglow timeline" think about it, she said "friendship is power" then trys to get drain magic, something dont add up i think there an unknown reason why she did that, but what if she did win and all the magic was gone, celesetia would not have the magic to raised the sun, making food to not grow and if the magic was gone in the day, maybe the couldsdale may need magic to make the weather and i know that thay could just get the water but what about the seasons, if couldsdale did need magic to make the weather, then seasons would not happened and if seasons dont happened, growing food would been really hard and would kill anypony...yes i know this really out there but hey this could have happened
But you forgot something. Princess Twilight had the crown in the castle. But they couldnt do anything about that then she wasnt Even there in the first place.
Maybe the destroyed timeline happenned bc of Twilight, maybe bc she was not able to use magic she Just freaked out and started to do something that destroyed everything or something like that
Okay guys hear this, what if Diamond Tiara true meaning of cutie mark is to be a leader, a princess even. After reforming tirek and cozy she realizes what her true future is, being the Princess of Forgiveness, not only to others but to oneself, cause forgiving your past and looking to the future is what she did. So then she becomes an Alicorn and Twilight that was expecting her student to be one gets super suprised.
I know why they didn’t use sunset if they never met up then there would be no element of harmony bam 💥
1 like
Sarah Caldwell2020-11-22 15:53:35 (edited 2020-11-22 15:53:49 )
Can you do a Theory vedio about the wasteland alternative time line and who was the villian that caused it. I don't think you've done that one yet I could be wrong.
HELLO DONT MISUNDERSTAND THIS: Celestia was trying to get sompony to take over her and her sister's thrones for when they retire. Celestia was doing it alone because she was seen more by the ponies, she rules the day and does all that other stuff. Celestia was trying to find many ponies like hope, sunset, and finally, Twilight Sparkle, who was perfect, finally. Sunset was not angry from the start and learned about the mirror unlike other ponies (and the other ones not to see the mirror for this reason,) and sunset saw her chance to gain power, and took it. after then twilight became allicorn but twi was not allicorn when sunset ran away to other realm, ok as you can see, I have a lot to say. if you have any questions pls reply.
2:22 yup that’s sunset demon look in the sky isn’t that a SUNSET And if you’re thinking “Oh that’s just a sunset” Well look in the upper is black so it’s has to be her.
My theory is she actually got to the portal but risked her tribe once she went in she used her power to rain chaos in the castle Luna and celestia were obviously warned but once they went up there she knew he would be defeat so she was ready she shoot celestia horn and Luna tried to fight her but her power is weaker then her sister so she failed she got rid of them in a pit once she was sone she rained terror across pony ills and the 5 main were there to stop her but without twilight, there magic was nothing she defeated them with the magic she had all elements and did something never before she destroyed it using the crowns she angled it to the crown and shot! The ground broke and dust appeared the ground was cactus like she rained over there for a couple millenniums until her rain was over the other villains rained there creating terror in equestrian with them ruling it was a wastE land of nothing.
@Sawtooth Waves hi i have one crazy teori what even tuching to the last alternativ space, but its realy hard to write it full, but for start its about one "pony" what show her self in basikly all big fights across all seazons and in Eguestria girls was person what look same but in EG she had Red hairs and slowly changing to White and in MLP was allready full White. Soo my teory is about As EG are acualy a long (around 50 000 years) past vz MLP and she no even survive what will hapen there, but allsoo maybe did it. if yes She probably did even the last alternativ space as not mean to make thing worst but to Restart the World after probably global catastrofe (not just lokat as was all thing before even in MLP)(ps interesting thing in MLP when Tyreck steal all magik from ponies all for them was weaker, but you can see her when he kignap Main friends that she standing there without problems)sorry im not greath in English and i hope its interesting to you.
Another world we can only think about: Sunset becomes evil, yeah. But what if the mane 5 without twilight went to the castle and found the elements, with sunset going as well, she might be the spark they needed, with her becoming the princess of... well, whatever she would be. Then she becomes good, becomes Celestia's student again, and keeps going down the path of becoming an allicorn. Who knows? Also, Celie was trying to get sompony to take over the throne for a while. Think about all the other ponies she had at her school. Probably why she has the school. If not this, something else could happen. Who knows? ANYTHING can happen.
Sunset was a student of Celestia maybe Celestia want to teach sunset how to make friends cus shes a part of the elements of harmony maybe it needs to pop up if sunset could have discovered that she was apart of it if sunset could have discovered shes apart of it in the pony world not in the human world obviously its not gonna pop up there because shes not in the pony world shes in the human world that why Celestia wanna help sunset make friends like if you argee its only a Theory :) hope this helps
1) She might be in a whole other place in Earth 2) She accually met her countrepart and pony Sunset proove her to go to the other world with her whole family but she lives in another land by transforming into another creature like a yack, a hippogriff or a zebra or much more with some sort of spells. 3) She lived centuries ago because I notice that if the piilars wherent in limbo for 1000 years, they will be already dead and I think in the human world, they are in history, same with the princesses and the principals. I think human Sunset lived in Middle Age 4) She doesnt exist because her parents never married here
I don't think the power of the crown would carry over because sunset would change back to pony and since a: she would be a new kind of pony monster thing, she was a she demon in the human world so wouldn't she be some weird creature in the pony world and b: wouldn't the crown not be powerful because she is now in the pony world, if she changes in to a pony or something then the crown would not work. She would be no match for the guards also she could not be faced with guards, when Sunset stole the crown Twilight yelled so loud that the other mane 6 heard it and the guards weren't there. This kinda leaves a gap between this theory and the movie and the show, I would want an answer to these questions and once you do maybe the theory will change. :l
Btw of course the other elements with out the crown the other elements would not be powerful not working at all and the human world would be totally different, Sunset wouldn't need to go to the human world, but when sunset said " I know all about this alternate world " it seems like she has went there before.
What if the SIRENS weren't defeated? if they got to restore their power to reach its full potential and travelled back to Equestria, in the movie they were restoring it little by little, somehow it would have worked somehow
3:5t we did not see her, she was still in hums. World, wonder why she not come back to the pony world. And as a plan for, since you picture of her look like fire, he amost could set all the tree on fire and make a home of bad leaves. And take over ponyville
Simple Sunset would not get the crown of twilight if twilight never teleported to the human world.If the main six wasn't there then no one went through the portal to the human world except sunset herself
well i just noticed that equetria girls and my little pony are simular look at sunset she became like nightmaremoon so the end might be same too my little pony
so what if the rianboom was pervented i think in know how it happend so sunseat would go back to the pony world and thout she didnt sucsed but the eleament of magic she would think its powered by magic right then she would use her magic then get the eleament but what if she took the other eleaments then the wastelank we saw could have been the distruten of deman sunset with all of the eleament thats how i think the wasteland came to be hope you like my sunset sorneo bye
i think that was a time line for sunset because sunset = sun which its fire and wahat are the effects BOOM ITS SUNSET TIMELINE which could have killed celestia and i dont sunset can fit BUT with the other elements gone there that could effect the element of magic which it could have whore off BECAUSE everything looks burnt SO THE WHOLE EQ COULD BURN TO FIRE!!
Well the "Future" what there was. Was propably cause without Twilight and her friends wouldn't have defeaded all the "Bad guys". In the end all the bad guys like. King sombra and tirek and all would have destroyed themselfes. And the whole world with it. So yeah i think its like that.
Hi ummm I really like these videos you make and I had an idea you could use (or not I don’t even know why I’m doing this) it’s about discord at the end of the episode about reforming discord when flutter shy said “see he can be a real sweetheart” (or something like that) princess cylestia makes a strange face and my sister said that was because she knew that because maybe she had liked him a while back like before she had to turn him to stone. What if it had something to do with why he attacked equestria or something
Hi I know you not going to see this but clear shy cutie mark dose not make sense to me like how dose she have a cutie mark with wind and sun as a unicorn?
Starlight was doing it for sunset because starlight and sunset were best friends ok and sunset was chosen and starlight . Starlight pass the test and sunset fail so yeah ok I know that
Ya lo sé cómo sería y si son cestería no era uno aparece en la primera vez un pony dos la segunda vez cuando invito a twilight que genial y tres ya la vi en un episodio donde estaba tu ayuda y no sabía twilight regreso y no importan y dijo twilight si me verías de
I believe the timeline where Equestria was nothing more than a barren wasteland might have been caused by Daybreaker.
Think about it, what would an unrestrained Celestia do it she believed she could have it all. Perhaps she was tired of holding back and decided to make everything burn, maybe as an attempt to bring order to Equestria. Kinda like Judge Death in the sense that the crime is life and the punishment is death.
Here is something we should not forget: Twilight would have ultimately become a princess and Spike would have been born regardless of how Starlight affected the timeline. Spike never disappeared and Twilight never lost her wings throughout any of the events we saw.
This also implies that Twilight ultimately finds the Mane 6 and the element of magic regardless of what happens, possibly because they already ultimately found their ways to Ponyville before Twilight arrived, as seen in “Celestial Advice”. Perhaps one reason as to why the events of the alternate timelines happened was because Starlight caused everypony to either learn that bullying was a good example or want to become just as powerful as her, driving Chrysalis, Sombra, etc. to ultimately have high enough ambitions to achieve their dreams, but perhaps the sonic rainboom is indeed a magical explosion that increases the amount of magic in areas below.
In other words, we never saw a timeline where Sunset won because nothing Starlight did could have affected it, but this does not stop us from dreaming up our own timeline. Even if Sunset could drum up an army of victims, they may not do much past the portal because they would be forced to learn how to walk as ponies for the first time and perhaps stumble a lot, though I’m unsure whether there would be a 100% guarantee of ponification.
But let’s assume that Sunset and Sunset alone were indeed a force to be reckoned with. If the element of magic can indeed work without the other elements, who’s to say that the other elements can’t also work in isolation? Five of the Mane 6 would equip the remaining elements and, backed by Celestia, Luna, and Cadence, easily defeat Sunset. While the EQG series would not be as interesting with only six of the seven main characters, the outcome of Sunset’s misdeeds would likely be the same.
2:23 My personal theory on what caused the "Barren Lands" Timeline is The Pony of Shadows. Now hear me out, sure the Pillars contained him but he was eventually freed when Sunburst found Starswirl's journal. He seems powerful enough to defeat the Pillars even at a weakened state, so at full power, I'd think the two sisters wouldn't stand a chance. His motive also aligned with what happened to the timeline, he doesn't want to rule, he wanted to "drain all the light and hope of this miserable world", with the potential outcome showing in the timeline.
As for how he is freed when the Elements aren't formed, the answer is simple Sunburst. Elements or no, Sunburst is a knowledgeable pony with a love for antiques, meaning he'll eventually come across Starswirl's journal. He'll then try to bring them back to prove to himself that he is worth something even after flunking at Celestia's school for gifted unicorns. Perhaps he'll even have Celestia to help to prove himself to her. Once he freed the Pony of Shadows however, he'll be devastated that the Darkness may actually seduce him to the dark side too. Making the Pony of Shadows even stronger and eventually destroying everything.
I know it's a bit of a stretch but that's the closest thing I could think of what happened to this timeline.
You could’ve explored a hypothetical alternate reality, not caused by Starlight’s intervention, instead exploring what if she had managed to do it in the prime timeline. That way, you can explore what would’ve actually happened if she had made it to Equestria with the element and her army.
I think the “Barren Wastland” timeline could be something caused by someone really important, like Twilight or the Princesses. Hekk, this might even be Flurry Heart or someone else, as we don’t know how far into the future that timeline really is. I think it’s a very interesting topic nonethelees.
I always saw the barren wasteland as soemthing created of fire.
And there is an entire kingdom of dragons out there. In my opinion, under Torch himself, an invasion of Equestria could even bring the ruin to the land. But only under him. What made Dragonlord Torch mad enough to burn Equestria to the ground? I don't have any ambition to know that.
First off, cute hairpin, it's adorable and you should wear it more often <3 Secondly, my thoughts as to what could've caused the destruction timeline, maybe it wasn't one person. We've seen villains able to team up before. What if it wasn't one entity, but most of the villains teaming up and draining everything from the land to get what they want? Each in varying degrees. When Chrysalis couldn't drain anymore love, she left to other places, leaving everyone permanently miserable. Tirek drained all their power to make himself the head monarch so everyone was weak and empty. Discord ran rampant with chaos, making these sad, tired ponies agitated and cynical. All the while they played with the ponies in their own twisted ways and stripped the land of all its sources and all its magic until... there was nothing left. The ponies were no more. The land of Equestria was no more. And soon, maybe... the world was doomed to fall apart. But, hey that's just a theory.
A bit after watching this, I came up with an idea where Sunset could've succeeded, albiet the Rainboom barely has anything to do with it. Picture this:
Sunset follows through with being Celestia's student, and eventually gets sent to Ponyville. The key differences so far is that Sunset still has power on her mind and there is no Spike to attract any form of Fluttershy. Anyway, she goes down to Ponyville and meets a few "Friends" (I'd say they would stay the same as Twilight's friends, except Applejack and Fluttershy wouldn't be there and probably are replaced by other ponies, who knows) and learns of Nightmare Moon and the Elements of Harmony. Flash forward, they arrive at the castle and face off Nightmare Moon. You see, I don't believe the Elements of Harmony are really drawn to good nor evil, the only reason they have done good is because the ponies using them were good. I mean you've seen what the Element of Magic itself did to Sunset. Instead of Twilight's Realisation of "Friendship is Magic and a strong force for good", Sunset's realisation would've been more like Cozy Glow's, "Friendship is Power which I can use." When she realises this, the Element of Magic shows itself (I imagine all of the Elements look like a corrupt version of Twilight's Timeline) and she destroys Nightmare Moon and by extension Luna instead of freeing her, and transforms into demon Sunset Shimmer. The other 5 would start running and their elements vanish, being scattered across Equestria Chaos Emerald style. Sunset Shimmer takes over, Celestia appears but gets defeated by Sunset, end of the world.
But what do you all think? Did I think too much into this as usual or-
Also: the plot thickens! Syannax is no longer on good terms with Sawtooth! Together with Yoshi Darklord, they continue to disappoint Sawtooth and our questions continue to stand unanswered.
I have wild theory about the military gear from Dragon quest. Camo is easily explained in researching animals but I haven't seen any Quards or Wonderbolts using the equipment that mane 6 had in the episode.
Theory goes this way Sunset or somepony went EQ world and bring back some wacky stuff that Equestrians can examine. The military gear was impractical for the Equestrian military because there haven't been any large scale war/conflict. Instead of scrapping the equipment, they just sell it as cosmetic.
And why I'm 3AM over analysing show that's target demographic is kids?
I feel like there could be another possiblity on why she wasn't in one of the timelines, the mane 6 could've somehow still found each other, except when they found the elements Nightmare Moon won, and shattered them. This could have an explaination. It could be that, their friendship just wasn't as strong and Twilight could've given the wrong spark to the elements. So, instead of fighting alongside Twilight with their designated elements, they probably just stood behind her watching. So, Sunset wouldn't have had an element to steal, not in the first place, but anymore because it's broken, or shattered.
What if the timeline thing had even more villains? Pony of Shadows: First, Sunburst and Twilight would have to have a different relationship than they had in the main timeline. They have to be much closer. One would find out about Starswirl's journal, and the two of them would find all those artifacts, release the Pony of Shadows, and since Twilight never met the Mane Six, no Elements of Harmony to help the Pillars, and no Cutie Map to tell them where Stygian is. The Pony of Shadows would then cover Equestria in darkness, and when Twilight shows up, she has to light her horn to see, but it has a much weaker light. Windigos: Chrysalis causes distrust between the three pony types before the wedding, because of something happening, probably Trixie losing the duel, and ending up in the Changeling Kingdom instead of wherever the Alicorn Amulet was. When Twilight arrives, she is covered by snow, and the snow activates the spell, sending her back. Or, Flurry Heart destroys the Crystal Heart, covering the Crystal Empire in snow, and the Crystal Empire reflects this across Equestria, and all the ponies begin fighting each other Trixie: Twilight still meets Trixie, probably during a Canterlot show, and after Trixie loses, she finds the Alicorn Amulet, and Magic Duel happens, but without the help of the Mane Six and Zecora, Twilight loses. Trixie then proceeds to take over Canterlot, and when Twilight arrives, everything is a Trixie show. Also, Trixie has banned wheels. Sirens: They discover a portal to Equestria, and begin doing whatever they were doing before the Pillars. This would also cause the Windigos to arrive, but the Sirens somehow manage to control them. Grogar: The energy from the Rainboom gets sent to space, and Grogar gains the power to escape by himself. When Twilight arrives, everypony is working their butts off for Emperor Grogar. Starlight Glimmer: Complete starvation, but the ponies aren't dead yet, and there's still grass. No idea how Starlight even conquers Equestria, but somehow it's gonna happen. Cosmos: Pretty much the Discord timeline, but much more malicious, with actual harm coming to the ponies. Sunset Shimmer: Her plan no longer involves the Element of Magic, but now involves manipulating the other villains into helping her. Every villain mentioned above, plus Cozy Glow, Chrysalis, Sombra, Nightmare Moon, Discord, and Tirek would end up helping, and somehow, she would turn Celestia into Daybreaker, leaving Cadance as the only Alicorn Princess. Maybe Flurry, if the villains haven't already attacked. Parasprites: Without Pinkie in Ponyville, the Parasprites devour the entirety of Equestria, leaving only Yakyakistan, because the yaks figured out the Parasprite music thing, with the Yovidiphone. Also, in my headcanon, the reason Rainbow Dash is so fast is because Sonic the Hedgehog and Barry Allen blessed her as a baby. Don't ask why. Just don't.
I think I know what happened. We all know now that the elements didn't get discovered by Twilight and her friends because they didn't discover the magic of friendship. And in the season 4 premier, the Tree of Harmony shows to be dying without the Elements of Harmony. And as Twilight said, each present is worse than the last. What would be a worse present/future for Equestria than for the Tree of Harmony to completely die off?!
Here's the thing. The elements don't get reunited with the Tree, and the Tree dies completely. Now I know what you're all thinking, why didn't we see any of the vines or thorny clouds then? Here's why.
The vines were able to grow when the trees protective power started to die. So when the tree dies completely, it allowed the vine to grow to a massive level. But when things start to overgrow, they can die off. I believe that's what happened, is the vines got to overrgrown on each other, and consequently killed itself off over time. But not before causing destruction to Equestria and its inhabitants. Without the Earth ponies to take care of the earth, and the Pegasi to handle the weather, and without the overall protection of the tree, Equestria itself just died and faded away.
I personally think the last timeline that is empty and dull is the Starlight timeline. If she took all cutie Marks from equestria, the earth ponies wouldn't be able to grow food. Pegasi would't be able to controll the weather and the sisters wouldn't be able to do day and night. So all the ponies would die then and there would be nothing to see
She could have done things differently by taking the five elements and merging them together to make the sixth element which could have obviously caused destruction in Equestria meaning that that lifeless timeline could've been hers but like you said, it's frightening because it's unknown.
I don't think Sunset could have used the Element of Magic... however, there are other sources of magic in Equestria that she may have been able to use. However whether she would have been able to get a hold of any of them is another matter entirely. Also I'm not sure that the Mirror would have been moved to the Crystal Empire had the Sonic Rainboom not happened, as it's likely that things would have played out differently and Celestia would have decided to keep it in Canterlot (she said she moved it there for safekeeping, but that's only because the Crystal Empire was safe after Twilight and them were able to defeat Sombra, without Twilight it likely wouldn't have gone as well).
Another thing to note is that Demon Sunset may have turned more of the Canterlot High kids into those demon forms she turned Snips and Snails into, so it's possible that they could have been more of a threat than just regular zombie ponies. But that's hard to tell. Either way, Sunset winning at the end of Equestria Girls could make for an interesting fanfic or something.
Alternate timeline where celestia has to use the elements so the sixth appears. She stores them closer to her for emergencies, this keeps equestria safe. She takes them to the crystal empire to defeat sombre. That is how sunsets plan works.
What if she was drawn to, and ultimately found, the human world's elements (the geodes)? She might have used the combination of those elements to overthrow Celestia. After all, those geodes give you interesting powers - reading memories and emotions, super speed, talking with animals, exploding sprinkles, shields and other structures, telekinesis, and super strength. I imagine a super powered evil Sunset travelling to overthrow Celestia.
I like to think that the cause of the apocalypse in the last timeline is Celestia. They have shown one villain after another and the next threat to Equestria beyond Nightmare Moon is Celestia herself.
But heres the thing, when twilight got her spark it became a positive impact on the elements of harmony whereas sunset shimmers spark was the negative impact of the elements of harmony her deprive for magic was so negative because she was desperate but having that was a good thing because with the defeat of sunset shimmer she became a better person/pony and changed her error of her ways and now she has a home in the human world where she could use the element of magic usefully. Just like how daylight shimmer defeated midnight twilight; with the words of “ take my hand twilight let me show you theres another way, just like someone once did for me” that someone was twilight sparkle and with that sunset shimmer spread the element of magic across the world, so in the end i think it was better off not to have a sunset villian in the pony world.
1:39 what I think about that timeline. is actually a foreshadow of the "end". you know when all 3 villains mess everything up? they got so greedy that the world couldn't give them anything anymore. so what we seeing is a result if they have won.
well that's my theory on that part of the timeline. it made sense to me.
because they turned the ponies against each other. also the villains would fight against each other once they have finished there 1st step. so when they fight against each other to spread there kingdoms. they end up with nothing. because little did they know. they need balance an order to live long and not let the world die off. like I said they have gone to greedy to really gone anywhere. like Tirek would keep taking magic an order to out power anyone in his way and Chrysalis and her children would keep taking love energy. knowing how bugs spread so many babies every year. is bad news for her to spread that fast just to out army anyone and anything. Cozy...I really don't know about her. besides her tricking each side so she would have the upper hand. she wont be trusted for long.
if I were Discord I would boot Tirek and Chrysalis out the world or just seal them in another realm. Cozy doesn't seem to be a type to actually worry about if you think about it.
Maybe the barren land timeline could have been formed by the group of tirek, cozy and crysalis when they came together. Cause the stopping of the rainboom would effect the future as well as the past
Well, in my personal oppinion, all posible multiverse and timelines, including the ones where Sunset Shimer won the battle against the main 6 , are existing in the same time. Just imagine our whole life is like a flipbook, it needs to be done so the animation can exist, so, in my oppinion, that happened in that episode from MLP too: from the beginning of whole universes those posible scenarious were existing; so there are already infinite of timelines where Sunset Shimer won the battle, and that episode where Twilight Sparkle made a loop in time was alewady existing too, she was only moving to a continuing timeline all the time she turned back in time, she wasn't actualy turning back in time, just creating a whole different universe and telling that Twilight, not to herself, but a Twilight with exactly same knowlege as her till that moment, than she came in and so on, with that we explained how she was 2 times, if was only turning back in past, (which in my oppinion is imposible without moving the universe as well) she was changing the knowlege of her ownselfe as well, that didn't happened. In the conclusion, in my oppinion, I think we saw a Sunset Shimer timeline, 'cause after a while, we didn't really saw what Starlight did to stop the main 6, so we can addmin she only opened a random timeline, and the one you talked about, the one with nothing but only chaos and distroies, is actualy one of the timelines where Sunset Shimer won.
The reason is because FiM never treated EG as cannon. Unless I'm missing something big, not once in all 9 seasons did any of the events or characters of Canterlot High get mentioned.
2:29 You could see some fire dust and burned trees so it's possible that sunset was the reason and we all saw how she could make people into zombies so what if she won against the princesses and ended up destroying all of equestria I also have a crazy idea! When starlight met sunset they got along pretty well so what if they met each other and because starlight is more powerful than twilight they got to the elements of harmony and used some kind of spell to create some powerful tool or the element of magic and that's how (starlight will get along since she was also left out like sunset)
there are only 7 timelines that we know of. I think that Twilight and Starlight went back and forth with who won and lost. Sunset could have won in one of the 6 timeline that Starlight lost.
What I want to know is if there’s a seventh element (The Element of Empathy) in the Human world, which Sunset bears, is there a pony equivalent? Would it still be empathy? Is equestria girls considered canon in this case?!
Going back to the elements of disharmony theory, what if sunset was able to corrupt the elements with 5 others? Would they then become the elements of Disharmony?
My answer: Sunset crossed over and defeated the two sisters and well took over. She took control over all of equestria and that timeline was a land that Sunset would banish betraying servants/ponies
Has anybody ever thought about how they have the exact same cutie marks on the alternate timelines? The cutie marks they could only acquire by their shared moment by the rain boom? Specifically, look at Fluttershy and Pinkie’s flank in the Chrysalis timeline. Fluttershy still has her butterflies, and Pinkie has balloons like usual... So... Can somebody explain to me?
I've always thought that timeline was from all the villains taking over because the main six didn't know eachother and its not like the villains would agree they all have the same motive world domanation and we saw how three villains worked imagine if all the villains worked together Celestia probably wouldn't be the same Ethier imagine her in just a couple of years if the main six didn't save luna then Celestia would have to banish her or join her in evil
Maybe Sunset would have gone after the Alicorn Amulet instead. With no Twilight in Ponyville, Trixie would have never sought it out, so it would still be in that store.
Just wanted to say we never really saw the tantupus win either. Of course Luna wouldn’t have to have created it if she won as nightmare moon but she would have probably used it to get more power. But maybe that was the last vision.
Starlight only met sunset after season 6 in Equestria Girls Movie Magic so that might possibly explain why we never got to see if sunset was deafeated and it’s disappointing we never got to see Sunset in Friendship is Magic (an actually appearance) even though she appeared in Twilights group shot in the last episode.
2:22 My theory is that during that final timeline was If Midnight Sparkle from Equestria Girls: Friendship Games succeeded to open all the rifts and destroy all of Equestria. Since The Season 5 Finale and Friendship Games take place around the same time.
Maybe just maybe sunset went after Celestia's crown hoping it would give her some magical powers but Celestia's crown probably doesn't have magic and sunset wouldn't have anything to go after so she was never able to become vilan in the first place that's why we don't get to see her timeline
The wasteland timeline is probably a result of all the villains taking over. They all collided and battled for equestria, destroying it while fighting.
Here’s my question: what if Sunset were killed trying to steal the crown rather than having successfully made off to the human world, with Princess Twilight forced to stand trial?
0 likes
Mohd Ghazali2020-11-21 13:53:01 (edited 2020-11-21 14:16:55 )
Interesting. Sawtooth Waves, this is completely unrelated but what do you think about my theory of Changeling. Do you have any theories about the origin of Changeling. You know i believe that maybe the reformed Changeling or as the MLP Fandom Wiki site called them Metamorphosis Changeling was actualy their real formed. The appearance many people hate might have been intended by the creator as their real appearance. I mean look at the folklore behind Changeling, they are an elve or fairy child that swapped by the dark or evil fairy and elve with human's child to get human love but in reality they are actually just a child with dissability or deformed body part that their parent renounced as their own child. I mean look at those deformed leg, tail and wing full of hole. They also always starved and very aggresive toward the ponies just to get love, something that they could nurture themselve and share among themselve. I believe that all this time Chrysallis rule as a Queen, she are actually just harming the Changeling without she actually realized it. The very same frienship she called "disease" was actually nurture from the love energy among the ponies, isn't it weird if she think that Changeling should not nurture it as it was "disease" but at the same time they should steal it from the ponies since they were starving of love energy ?
My keypoint was that deformed leg, tail and wing full of hole, their aggresive personality and the constant state of starvation and their name "Changeling", looking into the folklore behind Changeling in our world. Beside, a lot of people said the new Changeling look like a hippy but if you look carefully the new Changeling with exception of Pharynx, their colour scheme was based on the nature like flower, vine and leaf around them. We never know where Changeling came from or their origin. Only the comic FIENDship is Magic which Hasbro never comfirmed. In fact the FIENDship is Magic for Sombra also go against what the official series have established, so i don't think that comic was cannon.
Well ya see in sunset's transformation when she said to twilight "I have power and you have nothing" in equestria girls her hair glowed like fire now take a look at the final timeline it dusty windy and like ashes so my theory is that sunset must have came back to equestria with her teenage army and destroyed the land with her new powers well celestia will try a bit to make her good a again the she will fail leaving her prized citizens to fight on their own like you said in another video the equestrian military is useless so is celestia so sunset ruled over equestria winning by using equestria many moon ruler's uselessness
The last timeline was created by parasprites. Without the rainboom Pinkie Pie stayed on the rock farm and wasn't there to deal with the parasprites and they devoured everything in sight. When the ponies fled, nothing was left but a barren wasteland or rocks, sand, and the skeletons of a few scraggly trees...
Hypothetically if sunset had a motive I could see her leading a coup of some kind. I mean think about it, 4 villains each almost winning that’s too close- way too close and it only stated when Luna showed up so maybe they blame it on her? Maybe they think she’s still evil? Which leads to a civil war of some kind which kinda messes everything up??
Really, the show should have touched on how all the bad guys kept popping up after Luna came back. Like would Luna begin to feel like she's heralded disaster to Equestria by retiring.
@Rens Corner! And the fact she kept falling flat on her face after her return when some bad guy attacks. That or forced to be sidelined. No way she would be completely fine about that.
@night shroud96 I agree I think it would have been interesting to have the two sisters be more involved in the lives of the mane six maybe they even see a little of them selves in them m? (The sisters did bear the elements after all)
Wait... So, Luna's hair turned flowy after she became nightmare moon right? Because, Celestia's hair was flowy before NightmareMoon. So does that mean Celestia turned bad before Luna? (I don't mean Daybreaker)
@Hannah Ringer Her mane is literally made of fire, and she showed control over fire beams, breathing fire, and giant fire balls during her battle with Nightmare Moon
I think it's the human twilight. If sunset shimmer was banished, that means the portal was there. And also human twilight's access to magic. And Human twilight's motive was to steal all of the magic so she could study them. Maybe that's why the world looks so... Lifeless? Also, twilight might pull a tirek and stole all of the magic from others using her gadget.
Pop quiz question was...what happens when u bring AN ELEMENT OF HARMONY......not specifically magic...pretty sure 5 would have given her power enough...she only took it bcoz it was easily within reach....as far as the apocalypse....it could be bcoz of the villains fighting ( everything wouldbe collateral damage to them).......all of them .... no one to stop them....all wanted the whole of equestria.......yeah...that should do it....we saw the destruction caused in wars between creatures with immense power in twilight V/s tirek....and it was just two beings
btw i wanna tell you this just in case you don't know but grogar actually first appeared in the mlp 1800s/1900s version and also you know that we have mlp Equestria girls (practically the human ver ) but also in the 1800s/1900s ver ponies and humans actually lived together.So I'm thinking what if something happened between the humans and the ponies that made them decide to live separately idk what do you think? (plz response)
The wasteland that has been created in the mlp world where starlight glimmer and twilight sparkle and spike travel time to time was the world when the land was never created the wasteland was a land when the god of mlp rested to create it and it could be true because the only true villians that normally exist are the other villians that are included to my little pony and it couldn’t be possible for sunset shimmer to get them into the portal she was focussing on twilight and her friends and an answer that sunset shimmer in her past she never became evil but follow the evil deeds and abandoned princess celestia’s teachings for her and chose to be a different pony and disobey the kindness surroundings celestia taught her again, it cant be possible because once she does it again the portal still wont work because remember it said that “the portal will be closed for 30 moons”
This is the wasteland that would have resulted if a bunch of highschool / college humans had come through inter-dimensional travel into Equestria... GUYS !!! STOP LOOKING FOR THE PORTAL !
Hi Sawtooth i love your vids and just got into the brony fandom a few months ago because of your vids! Thanks! Also can you do a video on Cozy Glows parents, if you want to, that is. Sven gala looks a little like Cozy Glow, Their colors ar similar, but i dont know who the possible mother could be? Thanks alot for ur vids! Hop you liked my idea!
how would sunset have even succeeded once twilight had won the fall formal? she threatened to destroy the portal with a hammer but wouldn’t it just have gone through the portal?
Sawtooth I just realized something you could do a theory on In Equestria Girls Spring Breakdown Sunset, Twilight, and Rainbow Dash go into the pony world, and in The move Forgotten Friendship and some other movies Twilight has wings that means she’s an Alicorn right? But in Spring Breakdown when Twilight and the others go in the pony world but the human Twilight that was turned into a pony because she went into the pony world doesn’t have wings! This is just an idea of it I don’t know if you do the Equestria Girls but here’s something.
What if sunset could get the element of magic to apper? But what if sunset got a friendship with other villans and could reach the elements of harminy including magic, but when she did they would have turned into the elements of dishamarny because sure the villans would be friends but in a different way but for the the dishameney element of magic to apper and if the disharmany version of magic was a disharmany it would cause the other elements to become disharmany- ish as well.
But what if sunset DIDNT trip over spike’s tail, they wouldn’t have ever known that the crown got replaced, thus twilight would not need to do into the portal. That way sunset’s teenage zombies could have worked out.
If the main six wouldn't meet Twilight she would never discover the magic of friendship, night mare moon would be able to destroy the elements completely and sunset wouldn't stand a chance.
My with of thinking is that it was all about Fanfic. See now every story from Cup Cakes to Trotting Dead can become real because not main six to stop it from happing. That how I want to make believe that Fallout Equestria can be canon.
Well Maybe Sunset is still Celestia's student becuase the rainboom gave twilight the power to open spikes egg and if sunset was still celestias student then left and was good maybe she found friends And She had the spark instead but.. then left for an unknow reason and became evil and so did her friends so they overthrew celestia and become the new rulers of equestria
What if the that unknown timeline was what it would look like if Equestrianever existed so let me explain it would be a timeline where all the villains teamed up and ruled Equestria together that means the Mane six never defeated any of them and and the elements of harmony would be covered in malignant roots and vines because the Mane Six's friendship wasn't there to keep them at bay and also I'm pretty sure that they would be living in eternal darkness cuz Nightmare moon would destroy Celestia or just keep her in a prison and destroy the sun. Anyways they villains would be there doing villainous things until Starlight and Twilight pass through their timeline and Queen Chrysalis would see them and follow them but to make sure that they don't notice she'd make a copy of the spell and would bring it to the other villains. She'd tell them about it and ask them what they should do with it Discord would suggest using it to go back in time and take control of the founders of Equestria but the others would deny it saying that it was too risky and that it would and it would have a dangerous effect on the timeline Discord would act like he agreed with them so that no one would suspect anything until in the middle of the night he would take the spell and use it to go back in time to put his plan into action. He'd go back in time and would use his power to attack everyone in sight thus eliminating them then he'd eliminate the dragons, the Yaks, and the Kirin he'd try to eliminate the hippogriffs but would fail and give up then he'd go back to his timeline and find everything decimated there is no one and no life in sight and it was all a desert. The villains were gone the only ones living would be the Hippogriffs but they would still be in hiding. Sad, Angry, and Confused Discord would lay on a rock to think about what would have caused this to happen then it would hit him it was his actions that caused this. The Changlings would have been starved to death because the ponies would be gone thus giving theme no love to feed off of, Tirek would also be gone because the unicorns would be gone and no magic no food no life, The Flim Flam twins would be gone cause the they wouldn't exist if they were never born, Nightmare moon and Celestia wouldn't exist cause they'd destroyed cause the unicorns would be destroyed and they would have never been born. Destroyed to realize what he has done Discord tries to use spell to fix what he had done but Starlight never existed to make the spell so now he lives alone looking for others to help him fix all that he has done.
If your last theory is right then nightmare moon would not have defeated and the other villian would come in her reign only and the would have a war a big one and then the all are defeated by the elements not anything else that means they are equally strong so who will win? Thats a big question...🤔🤔
0:16 Because without Twilight we wouldn't have the crown, and without the crown Sunset doesn't have a plan, but hey, that's just a theory. Aaaaaaaaa My Little Pony Theory. Good night.
What if in that empty futur time line is when starlight finished her plan then no talents and harmony and then nothing can get done so coul'd become chaos and endup empty.
Here are some video ideas Who are cozy glows parents Why did rarity's parent leave her Why is discord the only deconerquise in all equestria What happened to gusty the great( because last time we saw her was stealing grogar's bell then she just disappered) How did discord come to equestria if he was living in a demenion the whole time Where did the changlings come from
You know Equestria girls friendship games, you know the ending were Twilight came and see her human side she say, she had to go back in time lap and was the craziest thing that happened to her and believe nothing happens in the human would at all
In the beginning of the end part 2 there where pagues that where crystal ponies that had wings and the crystal empire are only earth ponies and I hope you can do a vid on it you can see for your self :)
1. ok so my first theory is for why we didn't have a sunset shimmer timeline. think about it; if twilight wasn't a princess, she would never have gotten her crown, so sunset wouldn't be able to steal anything, and also if princess cadence was taken over by sombra, then the portal wouldn't be there but still at the royal palace, which she wouldn't be able to get out of without getting caught, so she wouldn't have even got an element in the first place. and if the main 6 weren't friends the elements would still be unavailable to her for her to use, because they had no one who showed all 6 qualities who could bare all the elements. so therefore, she wouldn't have magic and she wouldn't have even brought it into her world, so she wouldn't turn into a demon and the humans wouldn't have any way of accessing the pony world because there wasn't portals everywhere leading to it.
2. my second theory is for what timeline lead to the waste land. ok so if we go in order, nightmare moon would've sealed celestia away in the moon if she won, which means there was no one to stop her, but the other villains would still come. like discord would awaken, so he would probably try to take over equestria for himself, then seeing all the chaos, chrysalis would still need to feed her hive, so she would also fight for equestria, also, tirek would still break free and get his strength back, he also wanted equestria, so he would also fight. think about it, if all of these powerful villains were to all fight against each other, what do you think would happen? that's right, everything would most likely be destroyed, including the villains themselves, resulting in, you guessed it, a wasteland.
i hope you read this! and if you do, thank you I hope you like my theories!
Since NMM said she ruled for a few years, most likely she already dealt with Discord there since he would have broken free within less than a year. She must have dealt with the other villains too.
@night shroud96not true, are forgetting that it took all the elements to defeat him? which NMM doesn't have btw. also discord is literally the god of chaos, so it would take way longer to actually defeat him, and also almost right after discord would be broken out of his case, I'm pretty I'm sure it was chrysalis attacked, so therefore, all the villains would still end up fighting each other at the same time. also do you really think that all the others would just wait after equestria was taken over? noo, they would challenge her for the throne.
0 likes
night shroud962020-11-21 02:36:20 (edited 2020-11-21 02:36:49 )
@Lemon Leaf ...Nightmare Moon. Its a abbreviation for her.
Maybe sunset shimmer could've studied magic to the point were she would be able to teleport the 6th element. She could've used the magic she learned to get the elements to work for her. I'm not good with theories and this is just what I think.
Or maybe without twilight there sunset would lose her motivation. If that happens then starlight would have almost no one stoping her from stealing the cutie marks from all ponies and she succeeded but it turned out bad as you saw in the 7th timeline
What if She was ruling Beside someone..Someone who wasn't In The timeline but appears in the Finale. COZYGLOW. They did not show Cozy Glow to spoil the movie.She was Looking for the most powerful crown. She waited for the next princess.
You know how you said in one of your videos that sunset did not repent till after she was defeated a twilight did not well what if she did not repent because she did not have any friends to remind her but twilight did and her servants were already turned evil so sunset would not have turned evil if she had friends I know this is not a theory on this video but I want to say it anyway because we did not know anything about sunset living in equestria all we know is she was a student of celetia sorry can not spell her name
well technically if the mane 6 never met sun set would probably be celestia's idk what or in the human world just living without a crown or anything that is from equastria
Hi Sawtooth! So I have a question about Thorax. When he says Pharnex is his brother, what does she mean? I mean, isn't all changlings his brother, or are there changling families?... Also subscribe to my channel FallAndFlameTheFoxes!
I think that if no one was their defeat sunset shimmer if she went to eqestria she would honestly destroyed eqestria & if starlight was still evil they would team up and take over eqestria
The final timeline world exist with a few possibility, all the villain in Equestria destroying each other cause this apocalyse or Twilight become the most sinister overlord and kill every living things in the planet.
Sunset could of envyed someone else then and that could of lead that sunset shimmer not knowing what friendship is then twilight could.of met her friends their. and then twilight and her friends helped turn everything back to normal
I don't think this is true cause if twlight didn't find friends she would've stayed in canterlot and the mirror was in the crystel empire so sunset isn't a villain she is just a bully
I'm Just Bored2020-11-21 05:32:27 (edited 2020-11-21 05:34:17 )
I have ideas for ur next video...if u need some... About rarity About apple jack's parents About how changelings look in the human world...???(my biggest doubt) About why starlight and Aria blaze look the same About how Apple Jack's parents died AND I think Octavia Melody and DJ Pon 3 are SISTERS🤔 AND I saw that Lyra and bon bon, AKA "agent" sweetie drops are... MARRIED (I saw it when I looked closer at the newspaper that twilight was looking at in 'the last problem ' ) !!! Can u call my name in ur video? Or at least show my comment?
Ok to night mare moons time line in this time line she did take over but what if grogar and night mare moon knew each other grogar had helped her escape and in return she had freed him and in wich he came back yet he had been decitful he wanted to END PONY KIND! so he had used his old magic bell and destroyed every pony but with nobody to feed the land raise the sun and moon or to change the weather....he killed every thing because every creature DEPENDS ON PONY KIND and he ended by killing himself in the proses.....think about it it kinda sounds like somthing that would happen
0 likes
Eva De joseph2020-11-21 13:09:37 (edited 2020-11-21 13:12:53 )
Sunset shimmer or midnight shimmer, the magic are equally powerful for the mane 6 and that monster, can u make a vid the is about what if the mane 6 became daydream
Maybe you should say "but hay the just a theory a mlp theory" in the end of video
Wait a minute. I feel like you just a Matpat in Disguise. All you need to do use voice changer and voice editing, and the reason why his video quality isn't the same as Matpat's video is because He has to do this secretly so noone will know that he is a brony.
Hey sawtooth why don't u do a video about why sci twi was a unicorn in the pony world and an alicorn to in the human world sunset should b an alicorn here and there right ?
Well I guess you are correct but if rainbow dash did not get her cutiemark because of starlight then twilight did not become a princess so....sunset could not have stolen twilight's crown.....that means she did not have become a demon.....
I know but anyways what happens welcome flag in the book sunset shimmer garden and emotion but how does a magic and six elemental it means I know it means can I be the one to both of you singing like the feelingslime place to yeah
If the elements had never been connected to the main 6 by their friendship then no one would have Beaufort them back to the tree of harmony and then the forest would have overgrown so for any of those futures to be real somepony would have had to bring the elements to the tree of harmony, which means that some pony did have the elements
if the main six never met, twilight wouldn't have gotten her cutie mark and enrolled in the school of magic. The only reason she became celestia's star pupil is because of this. And the reason sunset shimmer became a villian in the first place was because celestia found someone else. if twilingt hadent been there, sunset wuld have remained celestias star pupil meaning she wouldnt have haad a motive to become aa villian. secondly, the elements wouldnt have been use because the main six never met, which means that they probably would have remained lost for all that time. Therefore sunset would have had to know of their existance in order to seek them out. And no one would have known of their power anyway.
I think that sunset probably would have kept looking for different ways to invade equestria without the element, and without anyone to stop her (the mane six obviously aren't united because twilight's not princess and therefore never in contact with the mirror anymore.) she could very well have manipulated and threatened her way into adulthood, (and if their human world is anything like our human world) possibly leading an entire country or the entire world into war against equestria with the promise of a new brighter future using magic. This would have let her bring things like nuclear weapons and such to equestria, the likes of which they'd never seen and would struggle to combat knowing nothing about them, explaining the barren, destroyed wasteland.
I don't know this got sort of headcannon-y. Great video by the way!
I like to imagine the wasteland timeline is a nod to the FO:E fanfics. They don't need to say who caused it, because in the fanfics it ultimately doesn't matter who pulled the trigger first.
I remembered a time when Sunset said "do you know what happens when someone brings a magical element from another world?" or something, but so far we have not had a clear answer. I think it fits very well here too. My theory is that when someone brings a magic element to another world, that same world they were taken to becomes dependent on that same element. So if that element is taken away, the world creates a new force to replace what was taken away to balance the empty space in time. Which would give another meaning to the Cutie mark of Sunset Shimer, which has the symbol of the universal balance of good and evil but without "good in evil" and "evil in good". This is because there is no good or bad to balance, only the magic between the two worlds, sealed by fate.
...
Perhaps ... in these alternative realities, Sunset never betrayed Princess Celestia, but since Sunset never knew the power of friendship none of this was worth it ...
Here's what I had assumed the "Wasteland Timeline" was.
Since Starlight prevented the rainboom, when all the villains returned among their respective timelines, they arose victorious. We all know this. However, my idea is that, since the Mane Six defeated all of the villains on the same timeline, who's to say they couldn't all come back on a common timeline and cause mass destruction without the Mane Six to stop them? I believe that the Wasteland is a result of a massive clash of power, specifically, the villains' power, (I know that specification was unneeded, but I had to finish the sentence somehow) and in the end, they destroyed each other and everything around them.
I apologize if time was wasted reading this, but I hope you enjoyed me rattling on about my thoughts!
Edit: I'm looking back on this and seeing how confusing this sounds....
i remember seeing some theories going around that the wasteland timeline is actually starlight's. we don't know what her true plan was in turning everyone equal but considering how important they are and how incapable the ponies after being stripped of their cutie mark, the results could've been devastating. imagine if starlight got the cutie marks of celestia and luna. they could no longer raise the sun and moon. if starlight wanted to rule equestria this way. I could imagine society falling apart as no one would be able to do what is necessary to keep it thriving.
maybe this a stretch but the fact that that's the timeline twilight shows starlight to show the consequences of her meddling with time could've been a hit or something.
The part that always got me about Sunset...is...how did she even know about the crown. Where was she and who could of gave her this information about it? Because if I remember right the portal was closed. So the only thing I could think of was...maybe she was connected to it in some way.
As for the barren wasteland alternate timeline, my guess, would be Luna. It was because of the mane-six she was defeated and the darkness in her destroyed. But what if she wasn't? If you think about it...if the moon over took the sun...there'd be no plants, no water, no life...just...nothing. There is a faint glow of yellow in the background but lower to the horizon with a dark shadow above it. So, it almost feel like an eternal eclipse. Also, the table map, shows little to no housing. Maybe ponies took shelter elsewhere or underground.
The whole wasteland timeline sounds so different from the rest. It's been seen that Equestria was still able to somewhat have some life in it, even in timelines where a villain took over the land. A universe where almost nopony exists would likely require some really big thing to have happened, as if a nule was dropped there or something The only idea I have is that in that exact timeline, all of the villains were taking over, but they soon started clashing with each other cuz each wanted all of Equestria to him/herself. This big clash actually led to all of them..."ending" each other, leaving Equestria completely destroyed IK it's a pretty bad theory. I just thought of it cuz we've seen some villains take over & it'd be cool to imagine all of them fighting but leading to that timeline occuring
I always thought that the last timeline was caused due to Nightmare Moon's everlasting night. Meaning the ponies' main food source of plants could not flourish, and thus would deplete the food supply. Leaving the ponies starving and thus they could no longer take care of crops and land, thus leaving Equestria a barren wasteland.
I think that the universes were causually isolated from each other, as in, if time travel affects one universes timeline, the other would experience no effect, so nothing was really happening over on the human side
2:25 I think that unknown timeline might have been Starlight’s timeline. How? I’ll explain it. Since the mane six never came together, there wouldn’t be any barriers for Starlight’s cutie mark philosophy back when she ruled that village. Her plan was to make all of Equestria give up their cutie mark, and she could’ve spread to other areas of Equestria. She could’ve cast a spell to her village in order to help her take over one area. After that, she would unite all those who lost their cutie mark as part of her army. It kept getting larger.
With the staff of sameness, she could’ve secretly have took away the princesses’ cutie marks, and probably used all of the cutie marks she got to make herself powerful and stronger. Without anyone stopping her, she would’ve caused even more damage to everyone and maybe even got to a fight with Celestia and Luna, and since she’s good with magic, she would’ve caused a lot of destruction. And eventually defeating them. And with all that power, she would’ve probably destroyed several parts of Equestria because she was angry of her past and could’ve gonce crazy over it. And leading up to a wasteland.
I think the last part of Starlight's alteration had to do with the war between the ponies and the imps. I believe that the imps are responsible for all the barren wasteland that Starlight did that Twilight showed to her. We believe that th imps should have been the next villains after the defeats of the three villains.
I always wondered what that wasteland dimension was... I mean, there's really no other villain that- wait. OK, I know this is going to sound crazy, but what if it's Trixie? The alicorn amulet corrupted her and gave her a whole lot of power. And if what you said in your Sombra video was true, it could be possible that it corrupted her to such an extent that it transformed her into an alicorn? Also, I know this is a bit out there, but stay with me on this one--- The way Trixie "ruled" always reminded me of Scar from the lion king. And the outcome of HIS ruler ship ended in a dead, wasteland much like we see in that future. What if Trixie was in the same position as scar in this situation? And I know you said that there wasn't any structures there, so you couldn't tell what happened... BUT. Same as Scar, the environment would have crashed and burned. That land could possibly be a destroyed Everfree Forest. 🤔
I figured the last timeline was one of two: results from the parasprites eating everything. Or two, discord. After all, when I think of chaos, I think of multiple stages of it, starting with a bit of disorganization and confusion, And ending with a waste land of nothing.
After a lot of thinking upon my multiple theories, it would make the most sense if the scorched wasteland timeline was of Daybreaker. Perhaps Nightmare Moon won in this timeline as well but didn't kill or banish her sister, but rather imprisoned her. After a while Celestia would likely be driven mad and turn into Daybreaker. Being able to control the sun she could easily scorch the land and pretty much everything would be dead. Just like in that timeline.
What if that desolate future wasn't the result of Sunset's victory, but rather her FAILURE?
For starters, without Twilight's interference, the human versions of the mane 6 (minus Twilight) would still have been broken up by Sunset's meddling, and would not have become friends again because there was no Twilight to bring them back together.
Sunset wouldn't have had the Element Of Magic to win during the Fall Formal, but considering she'd won the previous 3 years, I imagine she'd go to win it a 4th time, even without the added bonus of the Element of Magic. However, without the Element, there'd be no big fight, no pony-up, and no character growth for Sunset.
However, after this the sirens would still come to Canterlot High and gain power from the negative emotions. And without their magic, the element bearers and Sunset would be just as vulnerable. The sirens would easily take over the school.
Sunset would be completely powerless to stop them, and they'd continue on their path to conquest the whole of the human world.
However, human Twilight may still have a chance. She might still develop her magical device, and with the sirens completely in control of Canterlot High by now, they'd plan to take over Crystal Prep using the negative emotions caused by the fierce competition in the friendship games - really the perfect opportunity for them to do so. Having complete control of the school, they can rig the competitions in their favor, and feed off the anger and frustration.
With he tensions so high, Principal Cinch of Crystal Prep would be more than willing once again to have Twilight compete on their behalf.
With all the magic in Canterlot High drained by the sirens, and the portal not having been deactivated by the book, Twilight's device would lead her to only one place - the sirens.
The device might only take one of their magic first, but after feasting on the whole school, it's quite a bit, causing a rift to open up immediately. The remaining sirens flee and the competition continues.
They get more powerful as Crystal Prep is already so competitive, it hardly takes any magic to wind them up further. Twilight's device absorbs more magic as the sirens absorb it from Crystal Prep.
Principal Cinch is rabid already and pressures Twilight into using the magic from her device, which is practically bursting from the siren's bloated magic.
She assumes her Midnight Sparkle form and begins opening portals to Equestria, to get at the magic within.
And with no one to stop her, save perhaps the last siren, she likely succeeds.
But destroying the barrier between the worlds doesn't just give her access to it, it destroys it. Imagine the kind of damage caused by the barrier between two alternate realities suddenly disappearing. It would be devastating. Nothing left of either world.
Maybe THAT'S the future we saw...
Remember that Friendship Games place during / right BEFORE the Starlight Glimmer time travel adventure. Because immediately after the movie ends, Equestria Twilight arrives and apologizes for her absence as she had been stuck in a crazy time loop. The movie was originally supposed to air immediately after that episode, but I think they wound up releasing it like a week before? I can't remember exactly when.
(Mind you, I have my own headcanon about that wasteland future. I like to think of it as the Fallout Equestria future, but this isn't an entirely unlikely scenerio either.)
In order for this time line to have happend, starlight would have to go back in time but not all the way to the rainboom, instead, she would have to do the following A: prevent the eqg main six from going to chanterlot high B: sabatoge the guards for that night shift when the crown was stolen C:prevent twilight from having anyway to be proven innocent The reason behind her even doing this could be apart of a plan A:have the crown stolen from twilight B: have it taken to the human world C:steal it from sunset and use it to transform her self D:use that to rule or destroy equsteria
Now has for sunset achivng her goal another way without the human world, the awnser is a little more complicated, see, she would have to steal all the elements of harmony, that would be difficult, so she would have to wait for the events of an adventure that would see twilight and the others leaving ponyville, then she steal the elements and use them to turn her self into day dream shimmer. Why not just use sci twi's magic battery thing? Well not only would that take a while but that would also involve going to the human world, even if she did, it would have been a bit harder considering by the time sci twi would have come back, the portals connection would be broken by then, which has seen in friendship game wouldn't be a problem. But remember the Dazzlings? That would also require twilight coming back to prevent an enslave ment forcing sunsets plan to cease. And with sunset being the only one who knows how magic works... Well that wouldn't work very well now would it? Even then, starlight would still have to have tried to destroy equsteria, so it's very likely that in one of the time lines they're would be a war
In conclusion, we didn't see a sunset time line because starlight only knew of the human world because twilight told her about it, has her teacher.
Someone once suggested that barren timeline could've been Starlight's. She was so fixated on everyone being the same that she wouldn't value all the differences that keep Equestria running properly. Even unicorns, pegasi, and Earth ponies are different, and those differences are needed for weather, farming, moving celestial bodies, etc. The empty realm of dust is what could happen if she really flew off the handle and took over all of Equestria.
You make a good point, but in the alternate universes, there are still many other magical items that could enhance Sunset's magical power. I mean, there's magic that turned Cozy Glow into an Alicorn. This is a long stretch, but hear me out. In the alternate Universe starring Sunset, she would need a new reason to become evil, as she wouldn't have envy for twilight, because twilight never succeeded. Say, in the future, Sunset is Celestia's student. Her best student. Her magic power is powerful, and she's mastered almost every known magic. She decides she wants to learn more powerful magic. Such as how powerful Alicorn magic is. She confronts Celestia, asking if there was any way to turn a normal pony into an Alicorn. Celestia avoids the question, but Sunset's nagging won't stop. Celestia gets angry and sends Sunset to study. Afterwards, Celestia talks to her sister, worried that Sunset is growing greedy. While they are talking, Sunset is listening. Sunset grows angry, thinking her mentor doesn't trust her, even though she's studied hard. And right before she confronts them, they go somewhere Sunset never knew existed. A vault filled with magical items and forbidden spells. Sunset,even angrier her mentor would hide such power, plots to suck the magic out of the items and memorize the spells. She would become stronger than Celestia could imagine, and with her new magic try and overthrow Celestia. She would Succeed. She would take the spell that put Nightmare Moon in the moon for 1000 years, and enhance it to last for generations. She would banish Luna to the Moon, and Celestia to the sun. She'd enslave the ponies of equestria, but after years she's struggling. The magic she took was getting too hard to control. She tried to cast a spell to help, but ended up releasing all the dark magic, wiping the lands to baren...
EDIT: The secret room hiding magical items isn't made up. The hidden room in the Library held many items for the Ruler Sisters eyes only. Luna and Celestia have shown Twilight before, so that's how we can confirm it's existence.
I think this wasteland future was due to Tirek's doing, just a little later than the one shown before. I mean he took magic from all the ponies, pegasuses have lost the control over the weather which caused the drastic climate change, and from earth ponies, who was taking care of the plants and land in general.
Here’s an idea: Sunset Shimmer stayed as Celestias star pupil, and made friends with an alternative mane 6 (or even the same but without twilight) and the prophecy came true. But some of Lunas hate, envy, etc passed on to Sunset. Over the years it consumed her until she used the element of magic for her own gain, and ran away to grow a large army of humans to take through the portal. Sunset Shimmer comes back 100 moons later, she comes back and takes over equestria, destroying everything into a barren wasteland until nothing is left. Not even herself.. or she conquered other lands and repeated the cycle!
Which would cause the current state of the 7th timeline!
I wonder if the whole "zombie-student" thing was to be partially some sort of "Human/pony-shield/ wall-of-flesh" tactic. They where innocent after all, and Celestia might not be so quick to get a "lethal force" military attack on them. Then there is if they could break the mind-control/brainwashing, what would happen to the students then? The portal was only open at set times at first. Would they become a strain on resources if Sunset somehow kept sending more and more mind-control slaves to attack Equestria, basically trying to zerg the nation? Just a thought.
My question is was Twilight even still loyal to the princess, think about it, we never saw a alternate Twilight either. What if all those time lines she influenced, what if she was so ashamed of not being able to go to the school, that she basically became a villain her self. That barren wasteland could have just been ponyvill, and somewhere else she is ruling with an iron fist. But that you also left out one thing, we never saw a timeline of the Storm King either.
How about we expand upon this. The Dazzlings/Sirens were sent to the human world long ago by Starswirl and the Pillars. Now granted, they were pushed into action by witnessing the power of Equestrian Magic at the end of the first movie, however they still had their powers and abilities.
Now what if the Dazzlings were able to get a foothold in the human world? Sunset Shimmer already had a rift that split apart Rarity, AJ, Rainbow, Flutters and Pinkie, and while Sunset Shimmer was fairly manipulative, she didn't have that much in terms of real power.
The portal to Equestria was only active during certain times of the year, and wasn't fully opened until Twilight found a way to do so using the book.
And the sirens would be able to grow their power in that world. It was Twilight, Sunset and the rest that put a stop to them and removed their power, but without Twilight and the traces of Equestrian Magic, the Sirens would be able to rampage across the world if they desired, and there wouldn't be anyone to stop them.
Now what if, they do learn of the portal at Canterlot High. They would be able to bide their time until the portal opened once again, growing their power and they would be the ones creating an army.
Sunset MIGHT be able to warn Celestia of the attack, however I don't believe that she would, not unless she somehow had a change of heart somehow.
My theory: The Wasteland is the result of the mane six failing to defeat all of the villains. The villains soon found no reason to stay there since it was, well, empty. That's why nobody was there when Starlight and Twilight went there.
I honestly think the final timeline showed the Equestrian wasteland from Fallout: Equestria. There’s nothing to disprove this, even if Fallout: Equestria is a fanfiction, and not actually canon.
In season 5 Starlight unleashed a multiverse BEFORE she met sunset. Starlight would have known the other villans through tales or news papers which means she had no idea the sunset even existed. The mane six and the princesses must have kept the mission to the human world a secret. Because if they reveled there was a human world why would the other villans stick to equestria if they knew there was another world with magic. That is why I think starlight did not make a timeline of sunset because she never knew of the human world or its magic until she met sunset after she was reformed
Although the equestrian mane 6 never met, the EG main 6 (besides glasses twilight) did. Sunset could have easily manipulated them to force the sixth element to appear. Sunset was smart and knew equestrian magic. I feel like she'd be able to figure it out by taking the book from Princess Celestia's library. She would find she needed 5 friends, one of each element. She would go back to the school and observe students who best fit that prophecy. As we know, the 5 EG girls were friends before sunset ruined it in the main timeline. Maybe instead she'd use her manipulation tactics to trick the five to go to Equestria and receive the powerful amulet. However, as a comment before me brought up a point that she had no motive since Twilight was not a princess, so maybe she wouldn't even bother taking over the school or Equestria in general.
If somehow Twilight haven't found the Elements (nor the Mane 5) Celestia would make it through but some villains would still be alive. Nightmare Moon could easily be beaten by Celestia and Sombra maybe, but what about Tirak and Discord? I don't think Celestia would make it because: 1. She would be the only alicorn (maybe Cadence too) because Luna would be, again, banned in the moon and Twilight wouldn't have discovered Friendship. 2. She can't use all of the Elements' power. So some villains would escape and they would probably work with Sunset to completely destroy Equestria and rule their own. Now about who would win between the villains I don't know but it would be interesting and probably long lasting, creating a timeline where most of the lands are destroyed (aka the timeline where we don't have a clue about how it came that way) and the only beings that would "matter" would be the villains and their kingdoms.
I don't think Celestia can beat NMM due to how she is all amped up. And was able to send Celestia to the moon without the Elements despite Celestia needed them to do the same to NMM. NMM might beat Sombra too due to his anti-magic crystals most likely won't work on dark magic. Since Nightmare Moon managed to ruled for a few years, she must have been able to deal with Sombra, Tirek, Discord and Chrysalis.
I don't think Sunset would have discovered the elements at all. If the Mane 6 hadn't found together, the elements weren't revealed and Nightmare Moon wasn't defeated. That brings me to the point: The alternative timelines of Nightmare Moon and Sunset Shimmer are one. Parallel storys without connection. Pony Twilight Sparkle would never have met Sunset Shimmer, so it can't be mentioned.
At some point, all the villains escaped and caused chaos and destruction to the point where everyONE and what was left of the alicorn species had to evacuate the planet, leaving a deathworld. Then everyone else died
I think that’s a great theory and if that did happen and the elements were never found and sunset didn’t rule there’s still a question what was that wasteland timeline lots of things could have happened I was thinking cozy glow but would she really be evil if she didnkt know that friendship was power?
Sci-Twi wanted to understand magic and created little rifts of Equestria, and that didn't seem to dependent on the elements of harmony being discovered.
Maybe Sunset wasn't mentioned in the different timelines because of either 2 things:
1: Maybe there was the possibility of Sunsets Demon form in Equestria, we just didn't see it yet.
2: Maybe its because shes in the human World. Maybe Twilight hasn't even met Sunset in order to have her be bazoodled into that demon, who was quote on quote stealing Twilights crown, because she hasn't even met.
lol when you said why didn’t we see sunset’s reality i thought about it and came to the conclusion that it was because she couldn’t get the element of twilight never became it and when you came to that similar conclusion i was shocked 😮
'Aight boys, Sawtooth asked for a theory about how the "Grey World" appeared, so here we go.
The video listed six villains, corresponding to the other six timelines: - King Sombra - Queen Chrysalis - Nightmare Moon - Tirek - Discord - The Flim-Flam Brothers
Now this is where the theory (or actually, theories, with an "s") really goes "haywire" (pun not intended... okay a little bit intended), so let's buckle up. To start off, let's analyze all of the futures with crude summaries. In each future, there only appears a single villain, and the members of the Mane Six seem to be occupied with combating said villains. We never see multiple villains in one timeline. Let's assume that Equestria either falls to the single villain or somehow manages to defeat them and survive. Who's to say that the timelines aren't the same timeline? Aside from the Tirek or the Flim-Flam Brother timelines where the land is being destroyed by said villains, multiple villains coming in one after the other was defeated could eventually wear away at Equestria and leave it destroyed, with nothing left to invade. It's also possible that multiple villains attacked Equestria at once in the "Grey Timeline", causing Equestria's destruction that way.
But let's not stop there. What if in one of the timelines, Tirek is defeated by a group who learned the Magic of Friendship? Remember, we saw no past to the Grey Timeline, so anything could've happened. What if Tirek was defeated by an alternate Mane Six (or Five... or whatever number you prefer. Mane 72, anyone?), and the citizens of Equestria saw? What if a certain pink-coated, blue-haired, freckled pegasus saw the Power of Friendship?
Yes, I'm suggesting that the Grey Timeline is the result of none other than Cozy Glow. Stay with me here a sec and lemme explain. In the canonical timeline, Cozy Glow saw and learned of the Power of Friendship. She desired to become the most powerful pony in all of Equestria through means of Friendship. She then contacted Tirek and learned how to drain all of the magic from Equestria. But why? The answer is that Cozy Glow didn't just needed a plan; she needed a plan that would 100% WORK. Friendship is Magic. We know this. But Magic comes in many other forms as well. That's why she needed to delete the rest of Equestria's Magic: So that she could be the sole possessor of magic (in the form of Friendship), and by default, the most powerful pony in Equestria.
What if in the Grey Timeline, Cozy Glow managed to succeed in draining all of the magic in Equestria? Without magic, the Earth Ponies could not tend the land. Without strong, rich land for plants to grow, there's no food in Equestria. Without food from the Earth Ponies to support the Unicorn and Pegasi, well... You can see where this is going. Cozy's plan would've horribly backfired. There would be no earth, no grass, no flora. There would be no fauna. There would be no way to control the dusty, stormy weather. There would be no magic.
@1:40 That timeline is from Grogar not Sunset Shimmer. Back in season 9 when Tirek said "Grogar is ancient and extremely powerful", then when he returned Celestia and Luna goes fight with him and eventually ended up with that place.
you know who would be good at helping the others reform Tirek? his brother Scorpan because in season 4 we learned that Scorpan both became Reformed and friends with the ponies
I think sunset may have discovered friendship but then used the elements of harmony after obtaining theam in a bad way. Which may have caused the waste land timeline. Idk if that makes sence.
omg when you said why didn’t we see sunset’s reality i literally immediately came to this conclusion if she couldn’t get the element of twilight didn’t become it. I was shocked when u said basically what i thought 👀😶
You came to the same conclusion I did. But here another question that would make a good video. What happened to Sunset after graduation. I sure you heard about the cut scene for The Last Problem.
Here is my theory : Ι think that the last timeline i mean the final future of equestria (where was nothing ) was a result of the othere timelines that Starlight Glimmer created and Sunset didn't have to do with this at all because 1) She lives in another world and 2) If Twilight hadn't descover the magic of friendship and her element Sunset wouldn't be able to succed .
Haven't watched the video yet past "why haven't we seen a Sunset Shimmer timeline?" but I am attempting to answer this question without watching the video. It is because: Her. Plan. Sucked. It is because she attempted to take over Equestria with her teenage zombies, but not only will they be against Celestia one of the most powerful characters (and possibly even Luna), but they wouldn't even be able to walk very well transitioning from human to pony, much less able to fight back. Okay obviously this is the joke answer, but I wanted to comment it anyways.
My question is: why don't we see Twilight or Spike in the alternatives time lines? We see the adventure of Twilight against Starlight, but we don't get to see the Twilight and Spike resultive from the other time lines. I hope you understood what I wanted to say... Sorry for this crashed English.
Alright, lets say that perhaps sunset found OTHER elements, not the elements of harmony, but something darker, stronger, this could be a result of that, she found something better, faster, stronger, ETC. what would it be? I have no idea, just a potential answer. Either that or that final timeline was a result of ALL SIX other timelines coming to pass, Nightmare moon wins, the twins build an empire, chrysalis and her changelings attack, King Sombra returns, then Discord breaks free, followed by Tyrek escaping, or however you want to order that, and the seventh timeline is the result of all that destruction, after all, in the other timelines someone had to've stopped the villain's, so the Mane 6 would've been replaced by someone else, so this seventh timeline is just if no-one replaced them, that's my personal head-cannon anyway.
I think the final timeline was when Starlight won. Think about it. If she won then even the princesses would've lost there Mark's and without the ability to move the sun and moon maybe they just, disappeared, when the vanished it maybe dispersed into millions of rocks which fell down and hit the world causing major shockwaves that shook the world and took thousands of live. Ti make matters even worse when the sun vanished it didn't just fizzle out. When a sun dies many things can happen. But for a sun charged with so much magic from thousands of years only one thing would happen. A supernova the likes of which no one had seen. Resulting in the total annihilation of everyone in the world. All because Starlight took Celestia and Luna's marks. I know it's a adakr theory, but it's still possible.
I believe it was Starlight glimmer. All previous villains that had the power to do destruction, was shown with the exception of Starlight glimmer, Sunset Shimmer, and the corrupted tree of Harmony. The corrupted tree of Harmony grows tentacles, so if it were the tree of Harmony we would have saw tentacles. I'm rolling out Sunset Shimmer actually for what's outside the show. If this was your only episode you watched, if it was Sunset Shimmer, it would make no sense. There's enough exposition from Twilight to get the gist of the other villains. Notice how she says something along the lines up we stopped them for any timeline we spend a significant amount of time in. The Only Exception being the Nightmare Moon timeline, and even then Twilight acts confused, it's new to her the same way it's new to the audience. The reason why Twilight Recaps is to catch anybody up to speed. Why wasn't it there a recap in the barren Wasteland, if it's important for the rest of the timelines? Why would you break that trend? Well there's no need for recap. Why? because we watched this character for the entire episode. So Sunset Shimmer wouldn't make enough sense outside the show, so I believe it's Starlight glimmer. It makes sense to anybody who hasn't watched the show. Plus, I don't know if Equestria Girls is Canon. We know the flash century is Canon, but not Equestria Girls. The same way that the Mane 6 have counterparts in Equestria Girls, is the same way that Flash Century exist in the Pony world. It doesn't matter too much if one doesn't exist. In this case, it means that flash century counterpart wouldn't exist.
Wait but what if Sunset never abandoned her studies and learned more about friendship and became the princess instead? Would Sunset replace twilight? Would she have gotten a different cutie mark? This is interesting! Would she have the same friends as twilight? Would the elements be different?
Actually I have a theory! What if during the battle in the human world, Sunset was able to defeat the main six and was able to go through the portal and destroy the Crystal Empire army and the rest of Equestria, and since everyone didn’t respect her, she destroyed the world in the resulting that timeline which nothing was there or simply took of the ponies to the human world and made them her slaves.
I don’t think Sunset Shimmer plan was to take over equestria with a bunch of zombie high school students I remember watching equestria girls and getting confused why Sunset would resort to that plan, because it didn’t make sense for someone who was very intelligent, very resources and very independent, To resort to that plan.
So here’s what I think what happened, Sunset up till she took the crown was actually winning. Sunset knew what would have happened when you take an element to an alternative world. We don’t get to hear the answer but we know that Sunset knows the answer. Since Sunset isn’t the element of magic, I don’t think she ever thought that it wouldn’t have worked. I assume she thought it would enhance her magic abilities, since at the time Sunset had a huge ego. But the crown corrupted her, if you notice her transforming into the demon, she had tears flowing down her cheeks. The corrupted results of the magic, definitely clouded her judgment and thus she made up a crazy plan that involved teenage zombies.
Excellent theory, Though... maybe sunset didn’t start that timeline, I know this is going to far but... maybe it was twilight, because when starlight stopped the rainboom twilight didn’t pass her test, so maybe she was mad or something, maybe celestia did something to twilight and twilight as we know, is very good at magic, tries to take over? I don’t know I’m terrible at theory’s, anyvay good job with the video👍🏻
Ok,hear me out,celestia knew the other world was existing,what if she already got there and meet the principal celestia like twilight and sci-twi and both of them keep in touch with each other(in some way similar to the books)and that's why in the 1st movie principal celestia wasn't so curious about twilight as luna was,she knew she was meant to be there,and here comes my point,on the other timelines the answer would be really simple,celestia warns the emergency to her other self,who comes to the other world with 5 of her students,(the human mane 5) to get the elements while princess celestia gets sci-twi so they could save equestria
“They wouldn’t stand a chance.” Well, they would/could stand a chance since Sunset Shimmer would come along with the “zombies” which, there, would probably be as powerful, if not more, as the princesses. They and she could easily beat the guards.
So if Twilight never got her cutie mark from the rain boom, wouldn’t that mean that she wouldn’t be Celestia’s student? So if she never became Celestia’s student, Sunset wouldn’t have even ran away to the other realm.
Celestia. Watching her lend being atacked over and over again, without sister, without friends, who died in the endless battle.. Daybreaker was her last hope, but this form took away her mind and she lost controll, just like Luna 1000 years ago. With no good alicorn rooler, there is no Equestria.
That barren world could've been a day breaker world? It was burnt and dry with a red sky. A fire-powered sun goddess might have been responsible? Just spitballing. I don't know what would've led celestia to that outcome.
I think Sunset would be part of an alternate timeline, just not in Equestria. When Starlight stopped Rainbow's sonic rainboom, it caused the Mane 6 to lose their cutie mark connection. Thus, the Mane 6 never came together to bear the Elements. The Elements of Harmony would just be lost in the old castle, and Equestria would crumble. Sunset would probably stay in the human world dividing the Mane 6 - just like Starlight did with the sonic rainboom. The only question is that how would all of this effect the human world?🤔
It couldn't have happened because Twilight wouldn't have the element of harmony in the first place. So how would Sunset actually get it. I mean, she could've thought that it was just an old mares tale an never would've gone looking for the elements. I mean, what is to say that she would even return to equestria after Nightmare Moon, King Sombra, Discord, and many other villians.
Well my answer to this is... Would sunset still have been banished in all those timelines? I know that happened before Celestia took on twilight. But what if the collapse of magic maybe took her back? For that matter why did it take so long for sunset to get the crown of she could always come back to equestria why didn't she and how did she know when the proper time was unless she did go back to equestria
Except if the main six never disco6the magic of friendship, then they never defeated Sombra, then the mirror wouldn't even be in the crystal empire! It used to be in Celestia's castle but then it was moved to the crystal empire for safekeeping after Sombra was defeated. Not important for the theory but still a little detail I noticed!
Great video. I can’t wait to see more. And Zi know I said this before and you may have seen this comment in some of your videos but, I like to see a Fluttershy x Discord: Fluttercord video. I mean in the end of the series we kinda saw them living together and I would love to see a video about that. You did one of Starlight and Sunburst so, why not Fluttershy and Discord? That would be an amazing video. So please think about it this is pure gold we’re talking about here.🤎💛💘🦄
maybe she didn't need twighlight to get the magic element- Celestia used the magic element when defeating nightmare moon, so what if she took control of the princess, like some other villains, and make Celestia get her the magic element? if other villains defeated the princess then why cant she?
Sunset could have become a princess, there might be a timeline that everything turned out fine only starlight didn’t find it and twilight never became friends with everyone else
Okay. Now I'm confused. So we have default Sawtooth (his normal pony form), Changeling Sawtooth (His normal changeling form), Corrupted bat pony Sawtooth (In the Sombra videos), we have Snowflake Sawtooth (The last video), and we have feather Sawtooth (This video) What am I missing here? Why are there so many of you? Did you go to the lake that multiplies ponies? (Forgot what it's called, but it multiplied Pinky)
Sunset would have to find the Alicorn Amulet or team up with another villian. Probably Nightmare Moon as soon as she retuned. Sunset just hasn't shown to be as powerful or able with magic as Twilight.
When the video started I wanted to say the same thing you said in the end, no mane six together, no elements, no crown in the wrong world and no evil sunset's army..
This is random but how do you make your character (aka your earth pony) have the animations in a sense Like how he raises his hoof his expressions. Do you draw ir all or do you have a base?
Why has nobody talked about Sunset Shimmer’s magic aura? It was originally that turquoise colour when she stole Twilight’s crown but when she returned afterwards, it was red. I know it was probably a design change thing, but what if there’s another meaning to it or something?
Think about Chrysalis and her mane six copies the shriveled away when the tryed to get the elements and if Sunset did come into equetreia with the element of Magic see would of gone through something worse.And so the tree of harmony destroyed Demon Sunset and the world by using so much power and magic.
The final time change that we saw could be that every villain wanted to fight together or wanted to fight each other and it cause this disaster I’m not saying I’m right but it could be it 🧐
What if that last timeline was the Tantabus? If It had escaped into the real world, I may have been that hopeless. Luna Said It would make Equestria into "A living Nightmare" Didn't she? The only problom being Luna would have to be reformed, Which very well could have happened. The mane 6 Defeated Nightmare moonbut Celestia Reformed Luna. She still could have felt bad afterward and created the tantabus. I hope you find some intrest in this theory!
Who said the element of magic was the most powerful. What has magic to do anything with friendship, I mean the other elements describe what you should have in friendship, but the element of magic? I mean come on. But still good theory.
If you ask me, there could be an evil sunset Timeline, one where the rainboom still happened but in a different way, maybe a different main six, all that would have to happen is getting a princess who was a heavy sleeper... you can figure out the rest...
I think that last timeline was like one where celestia and luna never raised the sun and moon again. That's why there isn't a sun and moon. Maybe, this is a world where there is no villain, but there is no hero. Like, they just gave up hope. Tbh Twilight was a relief. A break. A light. And without her, celestia and luna just gave up. They had no family, no friends. No student. And more villains saw this as a chance to attack. They weren't successful, but they managed to make the two sisters hopeless and dull. and the world around them followed. Sunset would just, conquer the human world. then she would check on equestria and.......... its gone. so she goes back to human world and laughs. how pathetic. and she still won in the end
The only explanation I can think of is that because the rainboom didn’t happen Twilight and her friends would have never happened and Twilight wouldn’t have becomen a princess and didn’t get the crown.
I wrote this as I listened to the video and just saw that you brought it up haha 😂
i think the baren wasteland was the results of tirek, cozy and chrysalis victory of taking over, i know that the fight between them was much later but idk just my thought
Well, I was going to warn you that Sunset couldn't have sucseded because without the Rainboom, Twilight wouldn't have become friends with the rest o the mane six and wouldn't have become a princess. But you were faster than me. Np
Sunset Shimmer could have used dark magic tyrol Equestria just like King Sombra did and probably she would succeed with the help of Starlight glimmer I know it sounds pretty darn impossible but I know it will happen ;3
I thought of something, why didn’t we see a MIDNIGHT SPARKLE timeline??
Midnight sparkle was caused by a talisman that human twilight made. But it contained the magic of 5 of the elements, there’s a copy of the main 6 in the human world, that would mean double the mAgIc oF fRiEnDsHiP. (This is complicated XD) but the thing is midnight sparkle has a lot of power, she was destroying and ripping holes in dimensions with the intent of going to equestria but she never did since reformed sunset used the SAME magic to turn into something beautiful- but that’s a whole other topic! Anyway, if she did get to equestria (it be an awkward scene seeing an evil twilight with the pony twilight still good..?) she has enough power to make it past the equestrian army. But she seeked knowledge instead of destroying equestria so it couldn’t have been that last timeline. It. wouldn’t. have. been. Possible because starlight stopping the rainboom the main 6 would have never meet and the elements wouldn’t have existed. But then there was the elements the talisman held and it came from another world, this is getting complicated and I’m tired of typing 😅 but think about it-
Without the rainboom Twilight also wouldn't be Celestia's pupil and it would've still been sunset maybe sunset could've been the element of magic without twilight and that was the result of her going rouge (my opinion of course)
The waste land, I think was the ending where all the bad people combined there magic was too much for the fabric of the universe so everyone and everything died
Why is it that I just realized (After YEARS of watching the show!) That "When the five are present, a spark will cause the 6th to appear" Twilight SPARKLE xD
One reason Sunset may not have showed up is, if Twilight and her friends never met, the crown sunset used wouldn’t exist. Remember the element became the crown.
Know for the mane question who is starlight glimmer’s mother? Would any of the villains actually be her mother. Because we met her dad but we never figured out who her mom was
Wait I just thought there wasn’t a Sunset universe because if stuff happened the School of Magic wouldn’t exist and Sunset would never be under Celestia’s wing?
Hey I have a theory!!! So in the friendship games, that principle , who is she? Well I think she might be chrysalis. And here’s why. You know how in one of his other videos he said that chrysalis might have been the old queen of the crystal empire. And in the the movie, it was based off before princess Cadence was well “principal “ so this might fit perfectly. And since Cyrisals can change her apperance, and maybe some equestrian magic leaked through, letting her take that magic and use it. Now here’s when it gets interesting, so when human twilight was pushed into yawing the magic from the pendant, that was chrysalis’s plan to use it like she has been trying for a long time. Ever since the main six defeated her, she’s been wanting their magic. If you think so too, like this and plz if sawtooth if you read this can you mention me? Also, share plz thx for taking the time to read this
So, i actually tought of 3 posibilities at first, but i ended up with only one posibility. I think this is the timeline of Tantabus, and this is someponys nightmare.
The last UA could be someone who want to completly destroy eguestria. We could see that there is a storm cuz we couldnt see canterlots hill. So that means that the storm king took everything from earth of equestria and make world up in sky upon clouds where storm isnt that dangerous. So My theory is that the storm king took all magic from equestria for himself and made his own world up in sky. And other villians died cuz Changelings: no pony/creature = no love = death Sombra: No Crystal Empire = no life goal Discord: no innocent ponies = no fun = no reason to leave his world Nightmare moon: no power = no change Tirek: no magic = no food = death Cozy Glow: no school of friendship/no magic of friendship = no goal Shadow pony: no return of the pilars = no return of him Flim and Flam: no apples = no buisness Mythical creaturs: no magic and food = death Etc.
Imagine In the Friendship Games When sunset turned into Daylight Sunset she and midnight Twilight Fight through the Two Worlds like they go to The Pony World and the Human World Back and Fourth and It Ends on that Energy Blast That Would've been Cool but If That Happened It'll Kinda Lose The Whole Friendship Factor in the Movie but at least We Got Awesome Fight
What if like, Twilight and her friends did get the elements of harmony, but somewhere before the 1st equestria girls movie they stopped being friends, and Sunset went through the portal and found the element since it was already out of the stone mechanism thingy
What if gusty the great turned herself into the spiret of harmony after grogar’s defeat she became the spiret of harmony and with that she mite be the tree of harmoy
I know the backstory to the wasteland timeline,I think it goes like this(I don’t remember how it goes.):There was a war between Equestria and ???*.Equestria was so Desperate that they did *??? and it became a wasteland.The END.
Good idea. But why didn’t we see Midnight Sparkles outcome of victory either? Pls make a theory on that. What would have happened with all of the villains of equestria girls (legend of evergreen,...)?
What I think cased that timeline was because of all the villains together what if all the villains nightmare moon, discord, etc... working together like what discord touched the other villains like someone teached them to work together and all thoughs villains working together work cases the hole world and everything everyone knows is destroyed in the end
Even farther into T-Rex winning abomination duh he obviously used his magic to destroy this land the only reason he's not around is because he probably used too much of his magic and is probably no longer with the ponies
SADLY I MISSED IT 4 HOURS AGO 😢 But luckily, THIS VIDEO IS FANTASTIC!!!!🤩🤩🤩👍👍👍 P.S That's a cute- Uh.....IDK WHAT THAT IS ON YOUR HEAD OR EAR SAWTOOTH!!!!!😢 BUT IT'S ADORABLE!!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
The crown have never have existed in that alternative future and sunsetshimer never got back or know about the elements so in that future sunset haver never bring a element to the other world so a Olán never could it happend I don’t know if I explain my self jajaja
Omg I see a conection it might be the fears of the main six ok
1.nightmare moon rarity 2.tirek twilight 3.King sombra pinkie pie 4.Discord Rainbow dash 5.flim and flam Applejack 6.Chrisalys fluttershy 7.?
Celestia soo the element of twilight is useless with out the main six right WRONG in the beginig Celestia used the elements without twilight or the main six but Celstia would do anything for her ponies or citizans that would be her fear being alone she must be a sevent element because she can use the elements without the main six but what do you think oh and Sawtooth Waves please tell me what do you think
What is it was the time line where sunset shimmer in starlight glimmer were friends and and their memory got white some h*** how in you can make you can do the rest of your series you can make up the rest you can see a fury see if anything makes sense see ya
Because she mad and not create a bad time she just played some of the time now she’s not create it all the time not because now that I created all of them created of you I want you to make a berry about it because this is the only thing that matters do you know this your name color maybe she didn’t even make the time great others that someone didn’t didn’t you can be on the forever and ever and ever
Ross Stuart2020-11-20 18:09:56 (edited 2020-11-20 18:10:30 )
Sawtooth, ever since Daybreaker was revealed, I always assumed that the last dark timeline was one in which Daybreaker came to power and started nuking the world with the power of the sun. Daybreaker struck me as having the potential to decide that subjects (or life itself) were a waste of time, unlike Nightmare Moon who is all about uncontrollable desire for adoration.
I think Demon Sunset could have turned out very similar in power and behavior.
I mean, there is a possibility that Starlight would've stopped the mane six after they had made the elements possible but that would leave an entire plot of how sunset got her hands on the elements.
Maybe if sunset won the battle and defeated the human main six. We've already seen that the the duplicates have no recolection of their counterparts (aside from pinkie but she's a weird one lol) so if they're living completely separate lives then maybe the elements wouldn't work for them and then sunset would've won? Then if she beat the entirety of the equestrian military, it would be possible for her to rule.
When twilight got back after the 30 moons, it would be too late and the damage would be done. They could defeat sunset again in equestrian guess but in the human world, her defeat left a massive explosion of a crater. As she said "Equestria has more power". Perhaps that way the explosive damage would be greater and cause Equestria to become a barren wasteland. Or maybe at least Ponyville.
When sunset tore rifts between the worlds and also made the massive crater, you could compare them and see the massive size difference betweenn their scales (equestria being smaller). Therefore the same explosion would cause a lot more damage and therefore the barren wasteland.
I feel like the final timeline must have been all the villans fighting together. All the villans in starlight's alternate future did some form of damage, but all of them fighting each other with ponies getting caught in the crossfire seems more explanatory.
Personally, I am and will always be a huge Sunset Shimmer fan, but you do bring up some really valid points. I also believe that Sunset wouldn’t have been able to obtain her power THAT WAY in another timeline without the mane 6. BUT she could have taken a different route, perhaps since Twilight never passed her entry exam and never became Celestia’s student, I would think that at some point Celestia would have wanted Sunset back. Maybe Sunset could have used her time in the human world to learn how to manipulate other’s discretely and in the shadows, instead of with direct confrontation and threats. If Sunset had been able to properly learn how to know what people wants and to be able to convince them, or persuade them, she may have been able to go back to Equestria and maybe even play Celestia. In this timeline, because of the absence of the mane 6, Celestia wouldn’t have had Luna either, so perhaps she would have been easier to manipulate. Maybe Sunset could have managed to get to the point of being an alicorn, and managed to decrease Celestia’s trust in other’s and herself to the point where Sunset could easily overpower her and be the only Alicorn in Equestria. (I don’t know where Cadence would fit in seeing as we don’t really have enough canon details of her origin)
Yeah... Twilight's element appeared only when the "spark" worked, but... Didn't we see it also when Celestia banished Luna to the Moon? She took the element of magic, that was hidden into the stone, so, if Sunset somehow got to know about this or if this element was somehow left visible for everyone else, then it's still possible for Sunset to get her hands on the element of magic - and then she can do what we all know.
You know, remember in the flash back where Celestia defeated Nightmare Moon? There she just whipped out the element of magic from one of the relics. What if there's a special spell that Sunset could've learned somehow, to gain the element of magic in Equestria without the rainboom happening... I've always wondered how Celestia got the element of magic in that battle.
I think the last timeline would've definitely been someone who could be powerful and a void of feelings. I mean, seriously, a baron wasteland? This has to be someone who was clearly shown to he useless, as this is a kid's show, so deeper meanings aren't usually the objective. I'm not sure about who this was though. Ideas?
I never thought about the Equestria Girls villain timelines. Then again, you may be right in that they never happened. All their plans hinge upon the crown getting into the human world.
The barren land universe could have been caused by a villain we’ve never seen in the show
If Twilight didn’t discovered the magic of friendship Maybe a villain who had lurked in the shadows decided to take action and corrupted Equestria?
Maybe when the elements of harmony were back in use, another villain was stopped before they could do anything because they realized they never saw a chance to beat the elements and decided to see how powerful it really is
Without the events in use, it might have taken over Equestria and caused the alternative timeline
A possible plan that Sunset could have done was go after a different magical artifact or learn more powerful spells, possibly from the library where Twilight gets the time travel spell and try that.
Sunset Shimmer may have made that future. but at the same time very unlikely.
Thanks to the Equiestra Girls movie; Friendship games, we know that she was trapped in her own dimension, while Twilight is in temporary chaos.
What if it is for that reason that there was also no possible future? What intrigues me the most is the dimension that Twilight (of the Equeitria Girls dimension) opened. If at that time Twilight was with the Starlight Glimmer situation. What dimension did you open? And if it was the Prime dimension, why do the Mane 6 or the Princess know what happened at that moment?
It was weird that Twilight upon reaching the Equestria Girls dimension only mentioned Starlight's temporary chaos and not the fact that her dimension is almost invaded by her other self.
If so, what exactly happened? Could it be that the dimension Midnight Sparkle was going to enter was a dimension made by Glimmer?
// This note was made with a translator. Since I speak Spanish.
The Flim and Flam timeline is also intriguing. For that to happen, the other villains would’ve had to be defeated, meaning that there is a timeline where the Mane 6 isn’t needed to save Equestria. This is further proven by the Discord Timeline, where Luna was reformed without the Mane 6. As for the last timeline, I think it’s caused by all the rising and powerful villains that destroyed everything and everyone (including themselves) by fighting each other for power, using their Powerful Magic to destroy each other and everything (like a Magic Nuke).
so I am rewatching MLP and just seeing this video, it actually makes A LOT sense! In the very second episode of season 1 (as he mentioned), there has to be a spark for a 6th element to appear in order to have ALL the elements of harmony. We didn't see Sunset's version in season 5 finale because of Starlight. The Sonic Rainboom didn't happened, The Mane 6 NEVER met nor the elements were there. And if we did get to see her timeline, it would actually be A LOT different like- really A LOT something like- that scene where Starlight and Twilight are in the middle of nowhere.
My question for you Sawtooth. Would it have been possible for Sunset to have been the next ruler of equestria instead of twilight? Hear me out. We get twilight failing the entrance exam to celestia's school. Celestia wouldn't have found prodigy twilight to succeed her. Celestia would have continued with her school till the time when nightmare moon would have returned. Somewhere along that timeline Sunset was her student. So what could have changed. Maybe sunset wouldn't have acted out and maybe sought forgiveness instead of power. Maybe in her path to become a better pony it would lead her to ponyville to make new friendships.
Simple answer: starlight caused twilight and her friends to never meet and therefore never being able to venture on to the castle of the 2 sisters and eventually not bringing the 6 elements of harmony to materialise into gems. So without the element of magic and the others, sunset would have had nothing to steal and may have played a different role in the other time lines
It's pretty obvious the sunset future didn't happen, because it couldn't. In a world without twilight and her friends, no one ever reclaimed the elements and without that happening sunset never had a chance to steal them, as they would remain in the castle of the two sisters and would never get anywhere close to the mirror for sunset to get her hands on it. I guess she might have tried to steal somethign else instead, but the only really powerful artefact close enough to the mirror for her to risk it would be the crystal heart, which, by its very nature, probably wouldn't work nearly half as well. sunset being able to pose any threat to equestria is completely depend on twilight finding the element and taking it to the crystal empire and with all of starlight's futures specifically designed to prevent that from happening, we obviously never will see a bad sunset future.
I like to think that the desolate future seen in Starlight's final alternate timeline is the result of Celestia turning into Daybreaker. Nightmare Moon could have returned and waged war against Celestia, something happens and Celestia turns into Daybreaker. The two of them fight and in the end, Nightmare gains the upper hand, striking a fatal blow to Daybreaker. Daybreaker's final action is to supercharge the sun and turn all of Equestria into a cindered wasteland.
I think the barren wasteland could have been caused by all the villains trying to take over and having an epic battle that resulted in the complete destruction of all that is good and they were all so injured from the fight that they retreated to heal and regroup. Maybe in that future, another battle was looming.
I was about to say when you first brought up Evil Shimmer. The Element of Magic wouldn't be within Sunset's grasp if the Mane6 didn't retrieve them.
0 likes
Jt Deleon2020-11-20 18:29:15 (edited 2020-11-20 18:30:08 )
But what about the event that split Sunset and Celestial apart? Unless if it's canon (Which is from a comic book that takes place before the first Equestria Girls film), then that should still happen and Sunset still ends up in the human world.
However, that would not mean that she would gain her evil transformation because the Element of Magic was never unlocked due to Twilight and the Mane Six never meeting, which is what was needed to unlock the Element that granted Sunset her powers in the first place. (Which was stated in the video)
But then comes this question: In this alternate timeline, did Sunset stay in the human world? Or decided to one day return to Equestria after having a change of heart and develop a want to fix her mistakes?
I highly doubt that she went with the second option, but it is a possibility no matter how small of a likelihood of it happening.
But if she did, does that mean she could've become a princess instead of Twilight? Or something else?
So maybe the final timeline was what would've happened if Cozy Glow won. She's a filly who was trying to be in charge of Equestria and she also sent the Young 6 in the magic orb that would've sent them to another realm. The Young 6 are (mostly) children of royal families so to hear that the leader of Equestria basically murdered them would've caused an all out war among every nation (you saw how the season 8 premiere turned out). This war could've basically destroyed anything and everything because of how many parties were involved, and that's what could've caused the empty wasteland that Starlight and Twilight saw.
As for the timeline my guess would be sleeping dragon covering whole sky with thick dark clouds that caused great damage to all life in very big area (propably not all Equestria)
I think why there wasn’t a Sunset Shimmer timeline is because the Elements of Harmony had to be retrieved first. Remember in the first episode? Twilight had to get the elements and since Starlight altered the Rainboom event, she probably didn’t get her cutie mark and get far on her studies to get the elements and since the Elements of Harmony wasn’t retrieved, Sunset wouldn’t have gotten Twilight’s element and used it to take over Equestria.
So I think that’s why it didn’t show the Sunset Shimmer taking over Equestria timeline. Feel free to tell your thoughts!
I have a thought,if Sunset did go to the pony world to get the elements where they still in the castle she would have to travel a long way back to ponyvill,so she could of gotten her hand or hooves on some powerful magic that could make the six element appear and sense she would have ALL the elements she would have the combined power to take down Celestia and Luna's arms,so she definitely could have made that final time line.
I completly agree about the reason se didn't see a sunset timeline. As for the "Wasteland timeline" I think It could've been caused by a tremendous war. Not an "Equestria vs Villain" but " Villain vs Villain". Imagine a scenario where Tirek, Queen Chrysalis with her hive, King Sombra with his brainwashed army and Nightmare Moon with her knights all clashed in one massive war, wothout even considering the windigos, feasting on Equestria's warlords hate for each other. The war goes on, with more and more damages each and every day, until there's nothing left. It could've happened in a long time, as a resault of the many battles that scared the land or, even worse, someone created a spell that could end the war for good, and It worked far too well
What if the last time line that you were talking about the deserted time line was actually the Twilight timeline. Here me out if sun set shimmer was never turned to good than the Twilight from the human side of the portal would have successfully "learned" about the magic coming from Canterlot high ripping the two worlds in the process.
What happened? A war between Zebras and Ponies broke out. All of Starlight's attempts may have not entirely stopped the Rainboom, it could have happened at a later date, resulting in the Mane six still getting together, but things being slightly different. As we all know, even the slightest differences can cause a radical shift in timelines. Even an unsuccessful interruption of the Rainboom could result in serious consequences.
What if the last timeline is when all the villains duked it out, trying to each rule Equestria. Unlike the other timelines, there was no clear winner and as such things got so intense they destroyed Equestria and themselves?
Wait, what about the elements of disharmony? I've seen videos about alternate universes where Sunset is basically Twilight. In the MLP comics, there was one about another mirror that Celestia had where the roles were all reversed. Bad guys were good and good guys were bad. Including the Main 6, or in this case, the Mean 6. We've seen a few episodes where these girls' become the opposite of themselves. Sunset Shimmer didn't know how to make friends, which is why she ran away in the first place. What if she found the other mirror and brought the Mean 6 to Equestria? Then, maybe these evil counterparts could have brought the Elements of Disharmony and when Sunset got what she needed, sent the girls back to their own world and combined the elements into one. Making a new crown for herself and turning into "a raging she-demon" and making her own army out of Equestria's people, I mean, ponies. Sunset's success could have ended in the barren wasteland after sucking the magic out of both lands and warping the two worlds into one or like Sawtooth said, if Starlight made more timelines, Sunset could have even be worshipped. There's a lot to think about this.....
A theory that does come to mind about the last time line is what if it’s DayBreakers? We never see a proper event with DayBreaker except for the dream episode where startlight and Luna helped celestia defeat her, but if twilight hadn’t stopped starlight, then starlight can’t help celestia and Luna. Could it be possible that, that’s the destruction DayBreaker could have caused if celestia turned into her.
Here are some villains/enemies that could have caused the Isolated Timeline: (I don’t know which villains came before and after this episode so please don’t say, we didn’t see this villain till season #)
Ahuizotl: In the episode Daring Don’t, Ahuizotl says he was going to use the rings to cause 800 years of unrelenting heat. So maybe he succeeded and caused the world to go into a drought, aka, the Isolated Timeline.
Sirens: They used their singing to cause the ponies to fight, therefore, things not getting done such as harvesting food and magic being used for bad intentions.
Trixie: Using the Alicorn Amulet, Trixie turned the world into something she visioned, but failed, causing Equestrian to go into a wasteland.
Garble: Caused Dragons to riot against ponies somehow, burning everything in sight.
Twilight?!: I mean, certainly, if human twilight can corrupt, pony twilight can certainly do the same right?
Daybreaker: Basically, Daybreaker uses her fire to burn everything in her path, from forests to huge towns/cities, leaving the world in a burnt up wasteland terrain.
In my opinion, I like the ahuizotl one most. If there are any villains I missed that came before this episode, let me know please.
I believe the wasteland timeline is Starlight Glimmers alternate reality when she succeeds in removing everyone's cutie mark removing everyone's energy and talent in the process. Earth ponies wouldn't be able to tend the earth/agriculture, pegasi unable to change the weather, Celestia and Luna won't be able to raise the sun and moon etc. Sugar Belle wasn't able to make simple cupcakes without her cutie mark.
0 likes
Ashe the Witch2020-11-20 17:17:24 (edited 2020-11-20 17:19:29 )
I think that the one causing the wasteland timeline is cozy glow, I don’t have any guesses of the story leading up to this but with how smart she is it is possible
That gets me thinking, what if starlight just tripped rainbow the same way over and over... would the same alt timeline keep accuring like a time loop or would they be different?
My take for the final timeline is one that all the villains fought against each other and caused the world to be destroyed. No winner on the throne...just a big wasteland...
0 likes
Medi xSTAR2020-11-20 17:54:08 (edited 2020-11-20 18:22:45 )
You are right! No one knew about The Elements of Harmony and where they were hidden? Twilight and her friends found out in The Castle Of The Two Sisters,and they had to represent them so they can be brought back to life or something. I dont think Sunset Shimmer would of get her way to rule Equestria or whatever,because she couldnt find the crown and be able to bring back the elements. No offense but please do more research.
What if...that timeline was DayBreaker's fault? Okay, we all know that she is about all fire and stuff. So she might be...burned all Equestria and made a castle at somewhere else? Like let's see, the dimension looks like burned and not alive. Daybreak would've caused that. But hey that's just a theory!
The empty one could have been cozy glow even though it hasn’t happened yet but anything could happen in the future since she took magic out of equestria because twilight and starlight don’t know about it yet that’s why twilight doesn’t mention it and the world and equestria rely on magic btw love your vids xx Hannah
Awesome! Although my belief is still that: that last time line is starlight’s. Over time with no special talents society would become dis functional and thuse ending here. It also looks a lot like starlight little village. But that’s just me, overall amazing video love seeing your stuff 😁😉
I wish someone makes theory on the last time line... Like I want to know who was responsible... Other creatures attack? Grogar? Pony of shadows? Daybreaker?
dear sawtooth waves, you probably didn't want my opinion , but have it anyway. I think there isn't a timeline in which Sunset succeeds because she can't. you said yourself that she would only be powerful enough if the element's magic transferred over. however, Sunset states in equestrian girls that when an element of harmony is taken to an alternate reality, its magic is reversed. therefore, if demon sunset went through the portal (or any of the rifts) then the magic in the crown would be reversed back to its original state. thus switching Sunset back too. thank you for reading. I love your videos.
Top 10 things that keep me awake at night: 10. "Something's under my bed, isn't there." 9. Weird, loud noises 8. Existential crisis's 7. "Did I do my homework?" (Even though I did) 6. Spiders. 5. "How would Equestria have been governed if it was by Luna and not Celestia before the two sisters ruled together and it was just one?" 4. My brain thinking i'm falling 3. The inevitable 2. The closet door 1. That unknown timeline
i think we 'did' see a timeline where she won in a way...the flim flam timeline...someone defeated all the villans to give flim and flam a chance at there hostile takeover bid, i think sunset returned earlier in this timeline, found nightmare moon had taken over and nopony had steped up to stop her...eager as ever to prove that her teacher was wrong to shun her she would have set out to unite the elements of harmony and fulfill the prophecy herself, along the way perhaps teaming up with alternate elements, moon dancer and the like, learning true freindship and by the end redeaming herself...but perhaps the delay had a cost...celestia was severly weakend by her time on the moon, nightmare moon ont he moon was one thing it was the source of her power but celestia, the oposite is true being on the moon would have saped her strength...and luna was too far behind to rule, plus her time as nightmare moon would have made her even more a pariah so, sunset who had been trained by celestia to rule before twilight, would take over with her friends as advisors till celestia was well...but sunset has one blind spot, she can be more then a little naive at times...and thus flim and flam were able to con her big time...resulting in the world we saw
I personally believe the last timeline was the result Dragonshy If you think about it, after Nightmare Moon, it was the first time the six of them ever saved Equestria together. And Celestia did say the sleeping Dragon could have covered Equestria in ash.
I have a discovery about ponies having the same cutiemarks. In the episode ‘call of the cutie’ where Apple bloom is trying to persuade ponies to buy apples, there is a scene where there is a pony with an hourglass as a cutie mark, with golden ends on it, and minuette, one of twighlights friends, has the EXACT SAME CUTIE MARK!! In the episode ‘the gift of the maud pie’ there is a scene where, for a few seconds, another pony with an hourglass as a cutie mark appears!! This one has brown ends on it, though. In the episode ‘spice up your life’ when pinkie pie is handing out leaflets for the tasty treat, there is a pony with twoghlights cutie mark, but just recoloured!
Also, your episode about zecora raised the question, does zecora speak in rhymes for a reason, like a sort of tradition? And I might have some information on this. In the episode ‘ 2, 4, 6, great’ when rainbowdash goes to zecora for help on coaching the chear squad, rainbowdash receives a rhyming dictionary from him. This might bring up a few more questions, such as, does zecora just rhyme for no reason or does he do it as a sort of family habit, that he got? I’m not good at answering questions like these but all the information I find I will post here.AAANNNDD, I have some information on the student 6’s elements.
In the episode ‘uprooted’ the tree of harmony created a shared dream that the student six were in. At the end of it, the messenger for the tree of harmony put down their hoof and created 6 lines, all connecting to each of the six!! THE COLOURS WERE THE ELEMENTS THE EACH OF THEM HAD!!
Yona had honesty
Smoulder had a white element (probably loyalty)
Gallus had laughter
Sandbar had generosity
Silver stream had kindness
And Ocellis had a yellow element (probably magic)
I could be wrong with this, like they could have made entirely new elements of harmony but I am sure I’m into something here. I’m not skilled enough to look into any of this further, but that’s the most info I have.
Ok unrelated to the video but i have a theory. Sunset was forced to redeem. I mean think about it. Her sudden change in heart was kinda weird. You don't just go from "GRR BARK BARK" to "YAY FRIENDSHIP" in an instant.
You know, Prince Blue Blood is kinda confusing. In season one Rarity states that Prince Blue Blood is Celestia’s nephew. Does that mean he’s Luna’s son or do Celestia and Luna have or had another sibling?
So, let's see, maybe the one who cause it, it was someone that appears after starlight, the Shadow Pony or Cozy Glow. But maybe not, because the Shadow Pony comes back because of Twilight and her friends, but even if the Friendship School doesn't exist, Cozy Glow can be the one because she stoles the magic, but I don't know
In an alternate timeline where Twilight never got crowned Princess and wasn't in the Crystal Empire during Sunset's three days.....Sunset wouldn't have been able to bring the crown back through in the first place.
The last timeline could be the reault of all the villians fighting and destroying equestria together not as parteners but fighting over who the ruler should be. And in the process destroying equestria?
umm......i have a way to this conclusion (some how), if you see, like you told that sunset do not have timeline.... or something, the answer to this question can be because well she wasnt a complete villan...right? if you see cosy glow, terik and crisaliys are main villlan we see, like they made a huge distruction and when you come think for sunset its like twilght has made her to choose the right path, and i think she was an easy villan to defeat. well now we see she is a right hand for twilight. well for the question why did starlight didnt see sunset, because maybe her future would be or would go for a far and far away, like make a big distruction and something like this.
I would like to say that if you watch the episode with that timeline then you would have heard twilight said that that timeline is what would happen if basically the main 16 the get together If Earth party pegasus and unicorn continue to fight Thing you would get that bill and Graceland Because the earth ponies grow the food Do unicorns help with their magic and a peg so control the weather Also During the fight when the 3 tribes were fighting they started to turn to they started to clean so without Without earth pony pig side and unicorns everything would be covered in snow until eventually everything dies in the snow melts And there you got the band banner wasteland
I think the jiant wasteland scene we saw is from tirek, cozy glow and Crysales working together (season 9) but like sawtooth said there is literally no evidence.
Sunset didn’t run away because of Twilight but because she had it with celestia not giving her what she wanted.
Here is my version. Sunset comes back and see that nightmare has taken over. She starts a resistance and gets either velvet or nightlight or shinning armor and to force twilight to help. They take the others she leads twilight through the portal knocks her out and transforms into demon and invade but also destroying the portal
I think destiny made her fail in order for twilight to become her pupil. Like, she used to be under celestias watch until she left for human world. Maybe without the Prophecy she stayed with celestia
Remember because the question is is powered by friendship she literally said it in that episode twilight sparkle quotewell I don’t know how this happened but Questria is on friends and you losing one group of friendships causes Losing one of your friends ends in disastrous results
I think I know why there was a bear in the wasteland the reason there was a bear in Raceland was because a Questria was depended on magic in French the only reason that question didn’t fall apart when I try to separate it was because they had a training thing where everyone did something for the other one so that’s where the bear lease land comes that’s what I
I think sunset could not have won because maybe in the pony world the magic would be less powerful compared to the magic in the human world and maybe twilight and her friends were able to take sunset down because they still had the other five elements with them Thats what I think 😅
There is also no Timeline where STarlight is the evil Person. I think Starlight and Sunset both not evil in there hearts, they reacting so because they dont know what is real friendship. They can learn it, they are only hurt where deep in their Souls.
If that all happened, would Sunset be Princess Celestias student? Maybe she never abandoned her studies but when everyone attacked she had to join in and help but we just didn’t get to see her
* Pony Stark rolls his eyes *
Excuse me, but how? How, why, where, why did you come up with this idea? Sunset doesn't exist. At least that demonic entity. The mirror is not in the Crystal Empire. And if it is there, then the Elements of Harmony are out of the reach of Sunset. And moreover, as it has already been said here, Twilight is not a princess.
There is simply no reason for Sunset to attack Equestria. And no power.
And also, Twilight is not Celestia's student, only the sister of her "niece's" husband. At best, if Chrysalis didn't ruin everything.
So, yeah, I disagree with this idea. However, it's always nice to see a video from you! ^-^
sawtooth could you do a video when u have a theory why we didn't see human sunset shimmer? We all know the sunset in the human world was from the pony world so why didn't we see human HUMAN sunset shimmer?? Just a suggestion i would really enjoy watching your theory on this! :D
Now that i think about it. What if alicorn sunset actually happened in all the other timelines. Think about it. To be an Alicorn you have to create new magic or Aka do a princess worthy deed . Like Celestia said in the first movie. Sunset was basically Power hungry. What if she did something (like making a deal with someone from an already captured and defeated Villain) And realized that she messed up and saved all of equestria from the villain herself. So she Has an adventure where she meets 5 new ponies who helps her defeat the villain. What I’m trying to say is if the rainboom never happened than Sunset could of been the pony world element of magic with 5 other ponies. Maybe she could of not only represented magic but forgiveness as well (since like i said in the beginning,she was power hungry and when she realized the error of her ways she wanted forgiveness) Celestia would of noticed that Sunset created new magic which is the magic of friendship and than made her an Alicorn (She wouldn’t be an alicorn in only the nightmare moon timeline since Celestia wouldn’t be there to teach her )
I'm thinking that timeline might have been Sunset's timeline I was thinking that everytime i watched that very episode wondering the same thing. U saying this is can and very much be true. That desolant land could very much be her timeline.
What if the wasteland timeline was due to one of the sicknesses in the MLP world or a new sickness creating a extremely fast and deadly plague. The plague would wipe out the entire population then their structures would start decaying. But if that were true then we most likely would have seen broken ruins other then just nothing
Edit: BRO I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS WHAT IF THE WASTELAND TIMELINE WAS DAYBREAKER'S TIMELINE SINCE WHEN YOU BURN SOMETHING THERE'S NOTHING LEFT BUT ASH
1 like
Replies (2)
Ak Bars2020-11-20 20:33:22 (edited 2020-11-20 20:33:31 )
The last timeline... Well here is how it might go... Cosyglow..Terik and Crystalis all won teh war... What was once home is now a wasteland. Im talking about the Ending of teh end! That might be what happened if tehy WON!
Also if sunset did succeed Shed just steal the crown and break the portal before twilight gets to go in Without her element both worlds break down And sunset destroys everything
Maybe this time line is a representation of all of those timelins including sunsets bcose we didn't get to see far ahed in the future of those timelins
Imagine if starlight and sunset shimmer, werent defeat, they would team up, and....well...I dont know. Sawtooth what could happend if these villans team up?
Have u ever noticed that grogars ball looks like that eye from King grutos nemisis from the Griffins. It's in the episode where rainbow and pinkie go on a friendship mission
yea The sunset demon would have never existed, because twilight didn't get the elements of harmony, sunset wouldn't be able to get the elements of harmony because she needs a spark to get them, she would have to go to the pony wold seek passed the garuds walk passed the forest and try getting the elements of harmony, I don't think it's possible.
0 likes
G A2020-11-20 17:41:18 (edited 2020-11-20 18:05:22 )
please talk about how you said like twilight and cadence aren’t pure Alcorn’s because twilight had flowing hair just like Celestia and Luna so I think you just have to be a ruler and I think Lester Don is Celestia’s daughter
Maybe that last timeline wasnt sunset but daybreaker. I mean we had one with nightmare moon so maybe it was her. I mean the wasteland could be because the Sun is always up like how the moon was always up in nightmare moons reality, that would explain why its a a wasteland because all the planst died cause it was always hot.
But that just what i Think P.s really live your Videos (Sorry if the grammar is bad im from germany🙂)
Friendship games, time went on as our Twilight was does time travel shenanigans, amd came in the end of the movie, and explained that time travel shenanigans are why she wasn't there earlier, so time travel only effects the dimension it happens in
I thought celestia sayed it was after twilight came to the school sunset started acting up My theory is that celestia thought sunset was the element of magic but she was wrong and bc celestia thought sunset was a element of harmony she left the element with sunset
And when sunset wanted to be a alicorn. Celestia didtn to it bc she felt she was doing a wrong anyway when nightmare moon was suppose to bring night time last forever sunset defeated her but with a cost she became the demon from the human world and she desroyed everything and head for more lands....
Mabye the spark of power that sunset felt from the first 5 summoned the 6th
0 likes
Kevin Spartan2020-11-20 17:16:27 (edited 2020-11-20 17:21:07 )
Well i was going to comment that Sunset coulnd get the element of magic because of the difference of the timelines since that Starlight did changed and created another one, but what if, in this other different timeline, with Twilight not being Celestia protegy- protege- prot- you all got ( i am brazilian, so i don't reckon this word neither see it that much, sorry) maybe, when Sunset went to the human world, she might understand soner what she did and came back to Celestia, which was still waiting for her (if we count that in some way, Celestia by herself protected Equestria against all the treats, such as Chrysalis before she replace Cadence all over) and with that, Sunset might tryied to change back to be a good protegy- pro-... '-' and with that she tought that she was going good again (Sunset thinking of herself), but with a slip and changes of the pace, she might have discovered the things about the elements of harmony, searched for then and even if the magic isn't there, she was going to try starting a friendship with many ponies that might be the other berears (is "berears" correct too? ;-; ), and with that in mind settled, she might try to enchance their powers and connections with the elements, thinking that thats is the bestest way to show Celestia that she is a good protegy and, maybe that have drived her down to the path again like before, when Celestia didn't aprov her choice of "Studing" the magics and the elements, which have maked her mad... And that could maybe corrupt the other elements, since that Sunset (as showed in the Equestria Girls) she might be another element of harmony, some parallel of the magic one, and with this, she might possible become the "Demon/Devil" Sunset that we saw and "know".
Does all of this makes sense?... In my head, that could be... And since that could happen, Sunset will be in Equestria, with the other elements berears corrupted (i guess) and having discovered her own element, her Element of Discover/Uncover...
I don’t think sunset was the cause of that last timeline what I think may of caused it was muitple villains doing things similar to the series end I’m not sure how else to explain the charred and bare wasteland they found
we already saw a tirek timeline where he was still destroying stuff. perhaps the last timeline was an alternate timeline where he destroyed everything at once instead of taking his time? interesting thought
I dont think sunset is that strong also how did her powers even carry to her pony self? Also starlight probably didnt do that because people actually ship sunset and starlight XD like bro
What if we look at it in a different way i think when night mare moon sent celestia to the moon in that timeline what if that happened in the other timeline as well but it goes further deaper this time sunset was mad at celestia and she turned into a pony rajing she demon (her words not mine) like luna did but then she decided to rule along side night mare moon so she some how convinced night mare moon and then she stabed night mare moon in the back and finished her for good and then she destroyed equasstria like we see in the episode tell me what you think
Maybe midnight sparkle caused the one where there is nothing maybe when she made all the holes it made the world's crash in to each other and the world exploded and caused the wasteland
l have an idea of how the demon sunset timeline came to be when twiligh and the human main six faild to deafeat demon sunset she an her army of teenage zombies went tho the portal and equstria foat fersly agents sunsets army but they didnt realise thath they whear doing was give sunset an advantege and sunset went in to cealestias thone room and deafeated celestia of her thone and took over the land resultyng in to the sunset timeline
I was thinking maybe the wasteland timeline is that nightmare moon and beaker clash to a big fight and because they are powerful they could cause a big explosion that cause every thing into a wasteland
Let me blow your mind.Luna is more powerful than Celestia I know its random but it could be true.Most of the time,Celestia is referred as the princess of the day than sun.So luna is probably the princess of the night.And controls the Moon AND The stars Not specifically the Moon.While..Celestia only does the sun.And there are billions more Stars bigger than the sun we didnt see Celestia control the stars in episode "A Royal Problem" but maybe she does that after dream walking.Or I'm all wrong and things just work Differently in Equestria.Anyways,Evil pony sunset Looks Dope
3 comments) 1) I'm guessing my comment (and who knows how many other people's comment's) about a Sunset Shimmer future inspired you to do this? Yes or No? 2) I think I've heard people came up with numerous FanFics about a Sunset Shimmer future could have came to being. For example, I think one said something about Sunset Shimmer could have used to Alicorn Amulet instead to create one possible alternate timeline, where she became an Alicorn ruler of all of Equestria with very little resistance, as a corrupted dictator. 3) I think that wasteland future was created by either: a: All of the villains who returned to Equestria from season 1 to 4 and then went at an all out war against each other using whatever they had in all the previous timeline (for example Queen Chrysalis had her changelings and King Sombra had the brainwashed Crystal Ponies). b: Tirek laid waste to everything in Equestria using all the magic he successfully absorbed. c: Because the Elements never found any new wielders after the Celestia and Luna the "Tree of Harmony" eventually died and all of Equestria suffered due to the facts that their was no harmony magic left or that there was no one else (other than the mane 6 being bonded by the Sonic Rainboom) worthy enough to wield the Elements. As in just like in a lot of legends and fantasy movies (like the King Arthur and the Excalibur) the Elements will only create its "Spark" for those the elements deemed worthy.
It’s midnight sparkle did it. Different universe that midnight sparkle have won. That means sunset shimmer and the overs didn’t stop her. Midnight sparkle make it a wasteland in that universe.
So threro what if sunset hid her betrayal to celesteya and then was given the element of magic took it for her own and backstabbed celesteaya taking over the land for herself
If sunset won she would be moe powerful then can cadence Luna and celestia the only one who could stand a chance is starlight or flurry heart her power would be imense inslaving or destroying the princesses she could brainwash celestia and Luna into nightmare moon or solar flare and even control starlight and flurry. Cadence would be useless since she is the princess of love and discord would defeat her.
What if it’s just ALL togerher You know like a villian battaling another villian and thats How they destroyed equestria🤷🏻♀️ I don’t know just something that came to my mind😂😅
0 likes
LS Entertainment2020-11-20 17:57:14 (edited 2020-11-20 17:57:44 )
I’m glad you’re back my pony form is a Pegasus by the way your my 3rd favorite channel!
Uh actually there could have bin a timeline that maybe one of the pony’s counterpart say apple jack in the human world also died with her parents or went missing it has bin a while since I have watch my little pony and Twilight could not use the Element of magic because the element of honesty could have never bin a thing in the human world and the pony Version did not die
0 likes
Luna Cheshire2020-11-20 18:09:48 (edited 2020-11-20 18:10:25 )
Maybe the mysterious world was sunset demon's cause bc like she could have torn and burned the mlp homes and has all the ponies as her slaves and her citizens following her orders and she as the queen
Hey I thing the 7 timeline is midnight sparkle because she wand magic imagine she broke reality there are no human and pony world there Is just an empty world maybe because of the damage that midnight sparkle made the hole fabric of reality was destroyed and so everyone and everything
She was drawn to Canterlot High because of the spikes of "unknown energy" caused by the Battle of the Bands, which was started by the Sirens, who were drawn to Canterlot High by the release of real Equestrian magic which resulted from Sunset stealing the Element of Magic, which brings us back to this video. It's the same impossibility with more steps.
what if sunset tried to do it but then came in contact with 5 friends :0 the could have been the werer of the elemant of magic she could have stopped nightmare moon terec, she might have started her own school had her own student named STARLIGHT GLIMMER!!! MIND BLOWN WOW isent that cool😆
i think the only way we could have seen demon sunset shimmer to succeed is probably Starlight to time travel until when sunset become a demon and stop the twilight and the human mane 5
What about rainbow rocks? the movie shows that pony's get pony ears but when you watch it, the sirens get pony ears and tails! why did this happen. Also if you watch the movie the sirens ears don’t look like pony ears but the human pony ears do
I think that sunset shimmer was with princess Celestia so I if the last Ultimate timeline it could be the something els hmmm also can you review bride of discord
I saw beofre ath that Celestia was woerd and looked alot like night mar emoon and she was fighting iwth night mare moon and twilight stoo there watching but they didn't see her maybe that's the result Of it and it was from the official channel so whta u think?
What if Sunset didn't even have a motive? If Celestia was right in the first part of Equestria Girls Sunset became evil because she was envy of Twilight being princess . If rainboom didn't happen Twilight won't became a princess and Sunset won't be envy.
4265 likesReplies (256)
that's an excellent point! I didn't think of that, but even still, I don't think sunset would have settled for the human world. her rebellion from princess Celestia happened before the timeline split off, so i think it's only a matter of time before she would have tried something else.
1097 likes@Sawtooth Waves please do ninjago videos and play PvZ music in the background
40 likes@RaiAE' Does princess celestia's crown have magic
47 likesWhat if when Starlight created all those new timelines some other pony became a princess instead of Twilight. Just an idea.
35 likes@RaiAE' Thank you, just thought of it lol. It could be a possibility that in at least one of those alternate timelines another pony became a princess (a pony that isn’t Twilight).
9 likesYou have a big brain, bigger than mine
3 likes@Sawtooth Waves I am a big fan . I love mlp
4 likesWhy is it that Starlight and Sunset Shimmer don't have human counterparts??
9 likes@Sawtooth Waves you should a monthly seires that would shown how future events would had happend in these timelines and how whoud they had reacted to future threats like tierk,storm king,day breaker,sunset shimmer ,cozy ect and to see if these timelines where doom for the start
5 likesEnvious*
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves I’m so used to your name being the brony notion that it feels weird now.
3 likes@The Anti Critic No
4 likesHey @Sawtooth Waves
1 like@Alexandra Adamczyk I’m saying maybe he should do other kontent like ninjago and everything wrong with Th3birdman
1 likeGreat theory, but Celestia saw that sunset was angry and Celestia didn’t give her the right to become an Alicorn or anything super special, because at the beginning she always wanted more power. So she may have returned to fight Celestia. But if it weren’t for twilight she probably never even would have went to the other dimension so I guess this theory is possible.
5 likes@The Anti Critic Did he used to do Ninjago videos? Or are you suggesting that for something new to do?
2 likes@Stuffysteam6 no
1 like@The Anti Critic noted. Ninjago is one of my favorite tv shows. And did you see the voice actor for Cole died?
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves What if she pretty much became twilight? Like the spark happened to her and she became the new element of magic. Nobody really knows the cause of the last timeline but maybe it had something to do with her not being as suited for the job?
4 likes@Stuffysteam6 yes
1 liketrue!:)
1 like@RaiAE' There's no history throughout the whole show, yet twilight's crown is an element of harmony so I think twilight's has much more purpose, and celestia's crown was just for a show
3 likesPlus the element of magic wasn't unveiled... not even to Celestia, until when Twilight and her new-found friends went after Nightmare Moon in the beginning of the first season! So if the Mane Six hadn't met or even just hadn't become friends, it's possible that the physical element of magic wouldn't exist in the first place.
5 likesEdit: I should have finished the vid first lol
Also I think the wasteland world would be that which all the villains teamed up on their own accord. Perhaps they even managed to free Grogar???
The only other possibility is maybe Celestia actually turned into Daybreaker in this timeline and scorched the planet to death.
makes sense. :)
0 likes2:25 I think that unknown timeline might have been Starlight’s timeline. How? I’ll explained it.
3 likesSince the mane six never came together, there wouldn’t be any barriers for Starlight’s cutie mark philosophy back when she ruled that village. Her plan was to make all of Equestria give up their cutie mark, and she could’ve spread to other areas of Equestria. She could’ve cast a spell to her village in order to help her take over one area. After that, she would unite all those who lost their cutie mark as part of her army. It kept getting larger.
With the staff of sameness, she could’ve secretly have took away the princesses’ cutie marks, and probably used all of the cutie marks she got to make herself powerful and stronger. Without anyone stopping her, she would’ve caused even more damage to everyone and maybe even got to a fight with Celestia and Luna, and since she’s good with magic, she would’ve caused a lot of destruction. And eventually defeating them. And leading up to a wasteland.
omgomgomg
0 likesSunset Thursday that you want to destroy Equestria so maybe we are without Twilight Meet Me Maybe that's fine wine maybe she might destroy Equestria I think I'm I agree on that
0 likes@RaiAE' sunset is not that mad to steal every princesses crown what next she stole luna's
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves See the thing is, without twilight and friends, the element of magic is still lost to Equestria. Without the element of magic, there is no demon sunset.
3 likesI was thinking the same thing
0 likesExactly
0 likesHmm good point
1 likeThere's also the possibility that she can't get back or denied to get the Element of Magic, I mean would a Villain just let the most destructive weapon in Equestria out in the open to be stolen and used against them? That's literally Villain 101, and then there's the fact that she couldn't rule Equestria because there's still other villains left, it took the Elements of Harmony to turn Discord to Stone and in the timeline where Discord rules (All hail Discord!) He just toyed with 2 Overpowered Alicorn for his fetish or whatever you call that Sex Show
2 likesYaa this makes sense
0 likes🤩
1 likeMaybe the suspicious timeline was all of the villains
0 likesWell, we don't know if she didn't have someone else who in these alternate timelines could replace Twilight. However, I think that there's a strong possibility she did. Y'all forget Moondancer so easily. Being as studious, but without Twilight there to end up holding her back, she would be a PERFECT FIT for Princess of Friendship. We don't know how she got into the school, so she might have done something as great as Twilight did and that might have been one of the things to lead them to being friends in the first place. If not, Moondancer probably would have still had several chances to prove her worth. You can't deny she's an awful lot like Twilight while being completely different.
1 like@Sawtooth Waves Maybe not, if the rainboom was needed for Twilight to hatch Spike and get in, then no rainboom equals no jelousy... I do have to say, though, that that can of worm could remain in the shelve and happen latter... which would mean, most likely, the portal being close, which would lead us to: what would Sunset do? Surely pretend nothing was happen so nobody would cut her access to the library until it was too late, because one of the things Celestia has always struck me as is the type to trust in her juniors and let them find the anwers on their one.
0 likesI have yet to see the whole MLP series, but I couldn't help but thinking to the Xmass special when Twilight tell that storie about the ponny who made a spell to erase a holiday ruining a complete mess of winter... so, if that sort of thing could happen in MLP real life (I assume it does), then the answers seem likely to be related, no to inter dimensional stuff, but to the weather, so I see two paths: 1 Sunset wants to make Celestia useless by making her power over the sun obsolete and going terribly wrong... or the time travieling going hand in hand with your old theory of Nightmare Celestia taking over, making an eternal day have terrible weather concequences starting from 1.000 years before cannon starts, which could lead to the eventual dead of all things ponny in present cannon time.
Sunset didn't became envious of Twilight. According to the official comic story she became arrogant and impatient. Princess Celestia had Sunset punished because at a certain point she rebelled against Princess Celestia. Sad to lost her protege which she banned from her personal study program, she later found a new pupil in the form of Twilight Sparkle who did abide to the rules of Celestia. Sunset and Twilight are similar to a certain point. They are both excellent and talented unicorns and at first they both were loners and did not have this desire to make friends. But they started to differ when Sunset became impatient and arrogant while Twilight stayed humble and had this patience.
1 like@Sawtooth Waves You make a good point, but in the alternate universes, there are still many other magical items that could enhance Sunset's magical power. I mean, there's magic that turned Cozy Glow into an Alicorn. This is a long stretch, but hear me out. In the alternate Universe starring Sunset, she would need a new reason to become evil, as she wouldn't have envy for twilight, because twilight never succeeded. Say, in the future, Sunset is Celestia's student. Her best student. Her magic power is powerful, and she's mastered almost every known magic. She decides she wants to learn more powerful magic. Such as how powerful Alicorn magic is. She confronts Celestia, asking if there was any way to turn a normal pony into an Alicorn. Celestia avoids the question, but Sunset's nagging won't stop. Celestia gets angry and sends Sunset to study. Afterwards, Celestia talks to her sister, worried that Sunset is growing greedy. While they are talking, Sunset is listening. Sunset grows angry, thinking her mentor doesn't trust her, even though she's studied hard. And right before she confronts them, they go somewhere Sunset never knew existed. A vault filled with magical items and forbidden spells. Sunset,even angrier her mentor would hide such power, plots to suck the magic out of the items and memorize the spells. She would become stronger than Celestia could imagine, and with her new magic try and overthrow Celestia. She would Succeed. She would take the spell that put Nightmare Moon in the moon for 1000 years, and enhance it to last for generations. She would banish Luna to the Moon, and Celestia to the sun. She'd enslave the ponies of equestria, but after years she's struggling. The magic she took was getting too hard to control. She tried to cast a spell to help, but ended up releasing all the dark magic, wiping the lands to baren...
2 likesi was literally about to say tghe same thing lol
0 likesUhh no Sunset would think of herself, Sunset became bad BEFORE Twilight became an allicorn. Celestia just never brought it up so when she came again she had to say. Celestia had many students for many reasons.
2 likesSOMETIMES PRINCESSES MAKE MISTAKES! like how Celestia said "omg i dont get how allicorns can be born in eqeustria" but still does not mean that she was not born an allicorn. Cadence may have been the first official canon allicorn that had a kid so... Anyways, Celestia would not have Sunset as her student after Twilight became an allicorn, kinda... not... very... nice... but would still teach her. but still, Celestia may have been trying to get somepony to look after Equestria and after she had Twilight, she did not need anypony else because Twilight's talent is friendship and will rule with her friends like cadence with her family/husband and child. Ugh I have so much theories (I know its many, but I like this better.)
1 like@Saipriya Gowthamachandran No actually I used to think it did but one of the episodes showed me it wasnt
0 likes@RaiAE' Twilights crown is mostly for show :-/
1 likeOh i get what you are saying now. But she would still be evil from before.
0 likesThe rain boom changes everything
1 likeMaybe Sunset would be Twilight's friend at that point? Just a thought.
1 like@RaiAE' bruh celestias crown doesn’t even hold magic
0 likes@Ayra Khan its FIM btw(nm are next to each other) and mlp had nothing else to do as an adventure so...
0 likes@Alexandra Adamczyk this channel is only mlp because- well, can't YOU figure that out on your own? sure, stuff like cartoon apocalypse does multiple shows, but this is unlike that. ponies know only of mlp and as intended have not found the other shows yet. really? i did think of that before but his channel is only mlp for a reason. ugh I think I know why you guys cant figure this stuff out. btw he replies "What's a Hasbro?" on a comment. i wouldn't know what Hasbro was either. Edit: dont get mad guys whats up with that?
0 likesHELLO DONT MISUNDERSTAND THIS: Celestia was trying to get sompony to take over her and her sister's thrones for when they retire. Celestia was doing it alone because she was seen more by the ponies, she rules the day and does all that other stuff. Celestia was trying to find many ponies like hope, sunset, and finally, Twilight Sparkle, who was perfect, finally. Sunset was not angry from the start and learned about the mirror unlike other ponies (and the other ones not to see the mirror for this reason,) and sunset saw her chance to gain power, and took it. after then twilight became allicorn but twi was not allicorn when sunset ran away to other realm, ok as you can see, I have a lot to say. if you have any questions pls reply.
0 likes@Mriganayani Rajan sunset was not envious of twilight
1 like@Eclipse yeah i saw that but they might not know how to spell that
0 likes@Alexandra Adamczyk what why would it be ninjago of anything?
0 likes@The Anti Critic content
0 likes@Stuffysteam6 uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no
0 likes@Miso Hoshi hey thats what i said lol
0 likes@Yolo Master why is it ... and nothing else?
0 likes@Sandra Arce what
0 likes@The Weirdo Channel yes
0 likesWhat if the last time line is one where starlight won, if she made every pony the same and then killed all the resources by making progress. This would explain the one tree and the darkness of the landscape. Suit or just pack of nutrients
1 likeSo it's grogar's future or daybreaker's future maybe daybreaker and nightmare moon's power collided almost destroying the planet (if you watch dragon ball super u will know wut I mean)
1 like@EG and AJ Oh lol
0 likes@Saj Khan now this is just my guess
1 likeBut maybe they're in a different school in a different town, I like to think it's just coincidence that they haven't found their counterparts yet
But that's just a theory, a pony theory
@IndoDINO Youtube celestia turning to daybreaker can make sense because at this point of time maybe celestia got jealous of luna, like on that one video by sawtooth. Maybe the reason she hasn't broken in the original timeline is because the manesix had celestia and celestia had them especially twilight.
1 likeCould you look at my comment Sawtooth Waves please?
1 likeWow good point!!
0 likes@Saj Khan I think that there is no human sunset, maybe pony sunset killed human sunset, but with starlight, well... you know how pony starlight was obscure? Well human starlight is probably somewhere else.
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves hi sawthoot waves see this becasce this imopmtop my little pony movie 2 release date is September 24, 2021
1 likeThanks
0 likes@RaiAE' It could because Celestia and Luna's crowns were conjoined in Twilight's corination. This means that it could have some magic that makes Twilight able to move the Sun and Moon. If Sunset did try to steal princess Celestia's crown, moving the sun could not do her much good.
0 likesYou have a point on that
1 like@RaiAE' I never think of that
0 likesYes, but she specifically ended her studies with Celestia because she wanted power, and quickly. While in the human world, Sunset would’ve plotted to steal the elements. When she comes out of the mirror with a plan set in place, she would’ve been able to steal the 5 elements of harmony, which will give her power. What she wanted. Still, without the 6th element, who again, can only be revealed with the magic of friendship, she probably wouldn’t have been able to defeat anypony, not even the villain that was probably ruling at that time.
1 like@Book Thoughts why did twilight become the princess of friendship? She discovered and created the magic of friendship. Without Twilight, there would’ve been no magic of friendship, and I’m sure even though MoonDancer is studious, she wouldn’t have discovered the magic of friendship. As you had said yourself, we don’t know how or even if she would’ve been able to enter the school. She questioned how Twilight was inside her book, and somepony with a lot of magic (which you need to get in the school in the first place) wouldn’t have asked Twi how she was inside her book. Plus, the reason Twi almost was never able to discover the magic of friendship was because she was studious and wanted to be alone all the time so she could study. MoonDancer doesn’t fit THAT well.
1 like@Anita M. as I had said... Sunset left her studies with Celstia because she wanted power, and quickly. So there’s still a possibility she just went for the 5 elements she WAS able to get, and either not bother trying to get the 6th, or try but not succeed. Though your theory I like.
0 likes@Robin again, she didn’t become evil because of Twilight. She became evil because she had a lust for power, which she wanted to obtain quickly, and not study with Celestia to gain it slowly. This is why when Twi appeared along with the 6th element, she decided to steal the 6th element to finally feed her hunger for power. And since Sunset’s studies didn’t last for long, she didn’t learn of the artifacts herself or asked Celestia about alicorns and how to create them or such... and even if this all did happen, if Sunset couldn’t control the magic after a lot of years, she wouldn’t even be able to control it in the first place. When your power becomes uncontrollable, it normally happens after a few minutes of having that power inside you, not after a thousand or so years. If that is so, Sunset would have to be an already powerful unicorn to control that power for such a long time, but if she was that, she wouldn’t want alicorn power in the first place, and I’m tired of writing this so please tell me if you agree or not and we can discuss it together.
1 likeOMG yeah XD
0 likes@RaiAE' Maybe sunset planned to come to equestria through the portal and steal celestia's crown as well
1 like@Jimmy Orozco Well, Here's my thought.
0 likesIn the comment I wrote, Sunset had already been Celestia's Student for many years. And I did mis-type, because where I said twilight was her source of her evil. What I meant was that bc Twilight didn't become Celestia's student, She was content, as she was gaining the power she wanted so badly. When Celestia could teach her no more, she wondered why Celestia wouldn't make her an Alicorn so she could have more power, which she desired. So when going to confront her, she found the room. The magical overload of powers after a couple thousand years or so is because she took power from the artifacts little at a time, once each day or so. Eventually she took to much.
And as for the "not gain it slowly", she learned the most magic the fastest as she was 'Celestia's Best Student'. Because of this was the case, THATS why she wondered why Celestia wouldn't make her an Alicorn.
@Robin yeah but still there’s no evidence towards any type of artifact room.
0 likes@Robin and even then Celestia, being the smart alicorn she is, would’ve noticed overtime that she’s taking the power from the artifacts, and would’ve banished Sunset to Tartarus or something
2 likes@Jimmy Orozco And that's why as soon as she snuck in and took the power from the artifacts, she edited the spell that Celestia used to banish Luna to the Moon, and use it against Celestia and Luna. One in the Sun, one in the Moon. Of course, this might not work, but Thats why its just a theory.
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco And the artifact room WAS proven, only once or twice, however.
1 like@Robin In what episodes, so I can check?
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco I'm not sure, let me go digging.
0 likes@Robin and well apart from the artifact room, what artifacts, apart from the elements of harmony, do we know exist, and have enough power to completely change a spell for evil intentions?
0 likes@Jimmy Orozco I FINALLY FOUND IT! it took forever of me searching in the wrong places, but its actually not In the season's. Its in a not very well known movie called "My Little Pony: Forgotten Friendship" it takes place in the human world of mlp but Sunset travels to the pony world, where we're shown the room.
1 like@Jimmy Orozco In this movie, when Sunset comes to the pony world, they travel to the Canterlot Library and go to a "restricted section" which is hidden. It hides books with great knowledge, ancient spells, and Dangerous spells, etc.
1 like@Robin ok first of all, it isn't a movie its a 40 minute not-so-short short, second of all, I've watched it, third of all, if Sunset were to steal the... well... spells, not artifacts, she would have to go in there after they leave, and to me it seems Celestia and Luna's magic are needed to lift their respective books and get in. And well there aren't really any artifacts in there. Sure, absorbing magic to become a demon and take over the world is EZ, but learning spells and reading books is just extra work that Sunset doesn't wanna go do. As I had said, she wanted power, and quickly. Reading and learning spells is what she had already been doing and it would've been a waste of her time. There is where I think she would've tried stealing the elements of harmony.
1 like@Jimmy Orozco Ok, first addressing the "only books in restricted section". Twilight cried out the names of some artifacts, and when in shock said something like " so many unread books and ancient artifacts". So even though we don't SEE them, they're still there. Of course we can't CONFIRM their existence, or if they're even magical, but once again, thats why it's a theory. Second of all, I didn't know what else to call it. Movie, Episode, whatever. Third of all, Sunset could already have casted an invisibility spell, as I'm sure that exists. Sneaking in behind the princesses. Fourth of all, maybe her desire was held off while being a student. We never really see how quickly she became greedy for magic. Fifth of all, the elements of magic would do nothing without Twilight. They would still be just rocks. Sixth of all, I know my "of alls" don't line up with urs. Sorry.
0 likes@Robin she was probably greedy from the start, getting in the school just to become powerful. Second yes idk what to call it either though it is a 40 minute long thing so yeah sort of a movie. Third yes maybe the artifacts are magical. Fourth yeah but Tia would’ve known that she was gonna try that so she would’ve set a spell to see invisible ponies, maybe that’s a thing too. Fifth idk if invisibly spells exist. We never rlly see anypony use them in the show. sixth, yeah that’s try but we saw Tia simply take them out of the stone spheres. Though doing that with the element of magic would be hard, I’m sure that with how much she learned with Tia would’ve helped get the others. And seventh, my ideas don’t line up with yours either D:
1 like@Jimmy Orozco Ok, give me a sec to grasp all the conversation comments we have.
0 likesOk. Here we go.
First, when she first got into the school to many years of studying, she would probably have a completely different idea on how powerful she wanted to be. Second, Tia wouldnt have known anyone knew it existed, other than herself and Luna. Because of this, she wouldn't waste her power on a spell for no reason. Third of all, idk if an invisibility spell exists either, theres too much magic. Fourth of all, thats true. She did just, suck then out if the stones. BUT say she couldn't get to them on time. Sunset snuck in, when Luna and Tia left, she took some power, yada yada yada, ive written the rest in some comment. Fifth, my brains starting to hurt. Never have I thought I would be having a conversation about MLP to see if a theory was even possible. But here we are. And I'm honestly not ashamed.
No, she didn't know of Twilight then. She became evil because she didn't get what she wanted quick enough. She wanted power. She was lonely, too.
1 like@Robin yeah my brain hurts too. I legit have no idea why this conversation started anymore
1 likeBut the theory is possible that’s All I’m gonna say
@Jimmy Orozco I've enjoyed this. And once again, its very possible that this theory isn't possible.
2 likesoh good one :O
1 like@Robin thanks for the conversation, exchanging ideas Is the best about fandoms.
2 likes@Jimmy Orozco honestly it was really relieving with all these times that we have to be at home all the time and have no socialisation since B beginning of covid so thank you as well
1 like@Robin You’re welcome!
1 like@RaiAE' it isn't magical
1 like@Saipriya Gowthamachandran no
0 likes@RaiAE' so why doesn't she uses it
0 likes@RaiAE' but that will not have any magic
0 likes@RaiAE' maybe?
0 likesWoah smart
0 likesWhat if she used a disharmony element she would of won
1 like@Sawtooth Waves I have a video idea. What if you talk on the 7th element of harmony? Dr. Wolf has made a couple of videos on it, but it’s basically that there’s always been a missing element. If you look on the season 1 premiere, when the mane six find the elements in the castle of the two sisters, there’s already 6 elements, but when pinkie pie counts them there’s only 5. That one element was left out. Plus, in season 2 ‘secret of my excess,’ in the scene in which twilight finds out about spike’s greed, you can see that in his pile of things he collected there is that one element again. It’s just like how the elements used to be, a stone. It’s a stone but it’s still the 7th element of harmony.
1 likeWhen the castle appeared from the chest, there were 7 thrones. And yet again, in the season 7 Finale when we got introduced to the pillars in the background story, there were 6 colors, each representing the seed they planted. But you can see a 7th one, meaning that there were 7 elements.
Wait I remember that When Luna And celesta Combinded THEYRE Crowns To twilight What if The elements Magic Had Some off the crown Magic and Sunset Used The crown to try to destroy Twilight And THEYRE Friend s That means The Princesses are Powerless Withput THEYRE Crowns
0 likesAnd the crown On Celesta And Luna Have A bit Off The Elemants Magic so Yeah that’s my theroy
0 likesDo anybody cares and ur wrong everybody are wrong
1 like@RaiAE' but her crown doesn't give her power
1 likeYOUR SO BIG BRAIN
0 likes@RaiAE' not that crown! The element of magic!
1 likeJust like starlight! Even if they don't know each other they still have the same envy!☺
1 likeActually Sunset became evil long before Twilight became Celestia's new apprentice. Celestia learned from her mistakes when teaching Sunset that if she wanted to make sure Twilight didn't become evil Twilight would need to learn about the magic of friendship which is why Celestia sent Twilight to Ponyville in the first place, it's because Celestia found the ponies that would represent the other Elements of Harmony because she knew that since she used the Elements to seal her sister away in the moon for 1000 years that the Elements would no longer work for her because she was only connected to 3 of the elements, not all of them so she had to find new element barers. Although Celestia taking on Twilight as her new apprentice after Sunset might not have even happened because Twilight didn't get her cutie mark until during the rainboom, if the rainboom never happened and Sunset never became "evil" or in this case power hungry like she did, Celestia might have had the chance to introduce the magic of friendship to Sunset instead of Twilight, and even if the other mane five weren't all in ponyville after the rainboom that never happened I'm sure Celestia would have eventually found other element barers that could work in the original 5's place.
0 likes@Saj Khan probably because their original human couterparts died or something.
1 likeYour right so if past sunset shimmer met starlight they can work togther
1 like@Jimmy Orozco I have a theory, what if the final timeline was the Fallout: Equestria timeline?
1 likeYes but sunset left before Twighlight camed, princess celestija iven said thet, Sunset left a litle bit before Twighlight camed. So...
0 likesCan u plese read my coment. I think thet i have a good point and i olso want to know what do u think about it. So if u so this plase answer on my coment
1 like@Sawtooth Waves why are you not uploading any video
0 likesI’m
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves i
1 likeO
0 likes@Lucija Fistonić your welcome
1 likeTrue but she could be the princess of knowledge
1 like@RaiAE' but that doesnt contain an element of harmony or maybe, any magic at all
1 likeTrue
1 like@Sawtooth Waves is the best YouTube channel
1 likeThat makes sense
1 likeOh yh good point
1 like@Saipriya Gowthamachandran maybe
0 likes@Saipriya Gowthamachandran maybe
0 likesYes she couldn’t get the element of magic but she could get the other 5 because Look how powerful midnight sparkle was and she had five elements and the portal magic so is sunset have that magic she will be more powerful than the Demon sunset
1 like@Saj Khan Because maybe their parents have never married there
0 likesThis coment
0 likesHas a lot of r...,,,...,___,______"___'':!;-".
Good point.
0 likesOf magic and I no where this thing scary 😘😘😘😭😭😭
0 likesWay this thing could be scary but a little bit 😭😭😭😘😘
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves 😘😘😘😘😘😘 job
0 likesT’T
0 likesSunset became evil but not because of Twilight. In Celestia's words " However when she did not get what she wanted as quickly as she liked she turned cruel and dishonest". So according to what Celestia said Sunset was dissatisfied with her studies so she abandoned them.
2 likes@pearlene grace Who is older? Sunset or Starlight?
1 like@Randy Rios Cruz Sunset because she began her studies with Celestia before Twilight. This shows that Sunset is a bit older than Twilight and Twilight and Starlight are around the same age
2 likesThat's what I was going to say!
1 likeYay that makes sense
1 likeOMG that is so right
1 likeOmg great theory
0 likesOh yea
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves the rain boom got twilight into magic school and twilight caused the rebellion
1 likeTrue point!!!
0 likesYe but is may be in the future and the future main six and gorgeous made that
1 likewaste land
Alright everyone we had the song Scourge's part a version of Flurry's part where Scourge became a warrior angel please hold the applause we have a place inside the sun for this
1 likeTwilight become a princess. Flash call sunset shimmer Twilight Crown there
1 likeWhat is sunset shimmer never existed in my Little pony
1 likeWhat if sunset shimmer never existed in my Little pony
1 like@RaiAE' no because celestia's crown doesn't have magic
0 likesIf the mane six never got together, then the elements wouldn't have been found, if the elements didn't get found, then Sunset wouldn't have gotten the crown and it's magic in the first place so none of that would've happened. She would still be the popular bully of the school.
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves sawtooth my theori is far fetch but what if sunset never discovered the human dimansion here's why because the rainboom not only effected the mane 6 it also effected other ponies like sunburst he got his cutie mark so there is a possibilaty that sunset got her cutie mark too because of the rainboom soo if starlight stopped the rainboom from happening sunset might never even went to magic school or pass the test to get in soo she might never became celestia's student in the first place soo at that point she never discovered the human dimansion sooo nothing happend in the human dimansion and nothing magical even a tiny bit effected the human dimansion soo thats my theori sorry it is soo long but i hope you read this and signing off bro hoof
0 likes@RaiAE' That was one thing I didn't get about the finale.
1 likeIn The Ending of the End, Twilight said, "now that my crown's been fitted..." and then in The Last Problem, we see Celestia and Luna merge their crowns together to make Twilight's.
Did they merge them before hand to make sure it would fit, then separate them again until the coronation?
That was that i was gonna say
0 likes@RaiAE' a lack of harmony is called discord or chaos. but I agree that is possible.
1 likeYeah that's kind of a big thing of one out. Without the main 6th The Elements of Harmony wouldn't have even gone through the portal. Oh wait now watching the entire video you thought of that already
0 likes@{ Bl●●d moon gamer } even if they did just for the sake of entertaining the idea sunset would have just been beaten by celesta and the other alicorns and royal army. And would have ether been reformed through Celestia or imprisoned so rather way she looses and it really wouldn't have mattered.
1 like@zeb jensen very true
1 like@{ Bl●●d moon gamer } mind you that it's impossible for any of that to happen like you said, but even if it did there is no way she could have beaten celestia and a the other alicorns at the time even without twilight's help. and her army of zombies, royal guard is prosumable a whole army all over the country so ya surrounded on all sides much.... she would have needed to hypnotize an entire state to even stand a chance and honestly mind control magic has been broken before so ya.
0 likesI almost feel bad for sunset she was so bitter and felt so worthless that she went rouge to prove herself. what kind of family life did she have to feel like she needed to go so far to prove she had value.
@zeb jensen I was agreeing with you the entire time!
1 like@{ Bl●●d moon gamer } I know sorry I have a bad habit of taking an idea and running my mouth off. sorry I can't help it once I get an idea I share it without thinking.
1 like@{ Bl●●d moon gamer } and I would be happy to talk more its a good show and I am just starting to really get into it.
0 likes@zeb jensen it's perfectly fine 😊
1 like@{ Bl●●d moon gamer } thanks I apreciate it. still I mean what I said feel free to send a message I quite like this show and it would be fun to talk about it.
0 likes@zeb jensen of course I love the show to. Talk to you soon
1 likeMmmm. Yeah
0 likesBuuut... Sunset and Twilight never even met.
1 likeis it possible she became like a alternative twilight maybe she even had her own main six a version where sunset was the main element of magic i know she didn't have the same bond in any movies with any other ponys but what if she had and never knew because twilight was the one in the light in the original timeline i for one would love to see a timeline where sunset and her own little team of ponys were the main six
1 like@Saipriya Gowthamachandran prob not
0 likes@RaiAE' that wouldn't have resulted in her turning into a demon because there's no guarantee that Celestia has any power. The human world won't be endangered like we saw it - Sunset may not be able to bring magic in the human world.
1 likeWait, this won't happen at all. Celestia and Luna's chamber must be more guarded that any other. She would be discovered and perhaps held prisoner in Equestria.
If sunset wouldn't have discovered that there is another world they couldn't have defeated Midnight sparkle
1 like@Saipriya Gowthamachandran the crown only works for princess celestia
0 likes@nupur goel Magic wouldn't have even come in the human world, leaving human Twilight with no reasons to study magic - which will prevent Midnight Sparkle.
1 likewhat if sunset became the princess in that au
1 like@nupur goel sunset wouldn't have taken magic into the human world if the Element of Magic wasn't there. Studying magic made Twilight turn into midnight sparkle , but if there wasn't any magic in the human world - she won't have a reason to become Midnight Sparkle.
1 likeI thought the same
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves
1 like3:57
THATS EXACTLY IT.
Without the element of magic she cant do anything
As I understood it, Sunset was upset, because she was meant to become a princess but for Sunset, the process was too slow. So she ran away, into the portal and took over the school.
1 like@Sawtooth Waves
1 likeDon't worry, friend💑. I like the good😇-hearted💛 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ better 😇. She's one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇
@RaiAE'
1 likeThat's naughty 😠
@Saipriya Gowthamachandran
1 likeI know the Harmony🎼 Elements💎(🏅/👑) are enchanted🌠. They defeat evil😈 forces☠
@RaiAE'
1 likeSounds enchanted🌌, to me 😇
@Karolina Piedel
1 likeI like the good😇-hearted💛 Starlight🌟 Glimmer♀️ better 😇. She's the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Justice♎😇
@RaiAE'
1 likeI like the HARMONY🎼 ones better 😇
@Karolina Piedel
1 likeBut dude, pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️ IS the Princess👸 of Friendship💑
@Nalini Nimje
1 likeI'm a powerful💪 Fan of the cartoon "My Little Pony🦄 G4" series 😇
@Saj Khan
1 likeI love💖 it when they do 😇.
Super🦸♀️ awesome 😇!
@jose luis esquivias otazu
1 likeI like the good😇-hearted💛 Cozy Glow♀️ better 😇. She's part of the brave🤠 Mane 7
@Rave / Рейв
1 like"No"😯?
@FoxyGamer16
1 likeBut pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️ made it Good😇 Possible
@Miso Hoshi
1 likeActually, pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️ is the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Magic🌌
@IndoDINO Youtube
1 likeBut, dude, in the Beginning of Season 1, pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💜, winged-dragon🐉 Spike♂️(🐲 + 🔥🟢)💚💜, and their new-found friends💑 defeated Nightmare Moon♀️(🦄🌌🕊)🖤.
The Good😇 Guardians🦸♀️ of Friendship💑:
Pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💜: Magic 🌟.
Pony🦄 Rarity♀️(🦄🌌)🤍: Generosity 💎.
Pony🦄 Applejack♀️(🦄🐴)🧡: Honesty 🍎.
Pony🦄 Pinkie Pie♀️(🦄🐴)💖: Laughter 🎈.
Pony Fluttershy♀️(🦄🕊)💛: Kindness 🦋.
Pony 🦄 Rainbow🌈 Dash♀️(🦄🕊)💙: Loyalty 🌩.
Pony🦄 good😇-hearted💛 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(🦄🌠)🧡: Forgiveness ☀️.
Pony🦄 good😇-hearted💛 Starlight🌟 Glimmer♀️(🦄🌌)💜: Justice 💫.
Pony🦄 Applejack♀️(🦄🐴)🧡's little sister👩❤️👩, Apple🍎 Bloom♀️(🦄🐴)💛: Happiness 🛡🍎💖.
Pony🦄 Rarity♀️(🦄🌠)🤍's little sister👩❤️👩, Sweetie Belle♀️(🦄🌌)🤍: Joyful 🛡⭐🎵.
Pony🦄 Rainbow🌈 Dash♀️'s little sister👩❤️👩, Scootaloo Dash♀️(🦄🕊)🧡: Fun 🛡⚡🕊.
Pony🦄 good😇-hearted💛 Cozy Glow♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💖: Caring 🛡♟💖.
Pony🦄 Luster Dawn♀️(🦄🌌)💖: Goodness 🌼🌅💫
@The Weirdo Channel
1 like😰 But, sweetheart, Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💜 IS the Spirit🌌 of Magic🌠.
P.S, it's NOT the Element💎 of Magic🌌 without Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💜 😰
@EG and AJ
1 likePrincess👸 Flurry Heart♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💖 was born👼 an Alicorn. 😯 [Gasping] 😲! Shiver🥶 my Glaciers🧊
@EG and AJ
1 likeSuper🦸♀️ Tastic 😇
@Xiaolin Loonatic
1 likeDon't worry. I like the good😇-hearted💛 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ better 😇
@EG and AJ
1 like"Envious"😯?
@Kirk Lundberg
1 likeIt's not nice to kill🪓. That's naughty 😠
@MANISH DHAMA
1 likeReally?😲!
@Huyền Vũ Thị Thanh
1 likeA good😇 point, or a bad😠 point?🤨?
@Jimmy Orozco
1 likeIt's very naughty to steal
@Jimmy Orozco
1 likeDon't be ridiculous 😠! Pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💜 IS the Good😇 Princess👸 of Friendship💑
@Jimmy Orozco
1 likeThat's a bad theory 😠
@Robin
1 likeOh yeah. The "My Little Pony🦄: Equestria Girls👩: Forgotten🚫 Friendship💑" special💝. I don't like forgotten friendships💑, only happy😊 friendships👩❤️👩
@Robin
1 likeThat's true 👍
@o
1 likeDon't worry sweetie pie, human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️👩(😇)🧡❤ has something better😇: friends💑
@Jimmy Orozco
1 likeI hope your head gets healed
@Sofie's Palace
1 likeIt is with the enchanted🌌 Elements💎 of Harmony🎼
@The Cool RockersVEVO
1 likeI like Harmony🎼 better 😇
@Jellybean
1 like"Powerless"? I like Powerful🔋 better 😇. It's super🦸♀️ strength💪
@Secret space Kitty’s
1 likeBut I care❤. I just can't stop✋ caring💖
@•☆GächaxKing☆•
2 likesDon't worry. Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️ is the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Magic🌌
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 Why? Her reformation is blatantly rushed, as you can see.
1 like@Lucky blaster
1 likeDon't worry. Starlight🌟 Glimmer♀️ is the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎(😇) of Justice♎(😇)
@Darkhellia DarkFire
1 likeDon't be silly 😠. Pony🦄 Counterparts and human👩 Counterparts don't die💀
@Err0r_
1 likeThat's right 😇. Human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ and human👩 Starlight🌟 Glimmer♀️ worked together to rescue☸ the Equestria Girls👩
@Schleich falcon wolf 800
1 like"I" what🤨? Come on 😠! Spit it out 😠!
@Bubblepop_yt
1 likeWhat kind of Knowledge?🤨?
@Lily Martin
1 likeI hate👿 Demon😈 Sunset♀️ and Midnight Sparkle♀️. They're the Forces☠ of Evil💀
@pearlene grace
1 likeSometimes⏰, that Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ is a Grinch 😠
@pearlene grace
1 likeSurprising 😯
@Rosy Arts
1 likeSuper🦸♀️ surprising 😯
@Noorani Steels
1 likePony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️ and pony🦄 Flash📸 Sentry♂️ + Girlfriend and boyfriend / Later / husband🤵 and wife👰 = ✅
@Saida Sultana
1 likeThe pony🦄 one? She does in my Walt Disney dreams💭
@Lil Aries
1 likeBut, pal, that's false 😠
@Stalker-nim
1 likeBut, pal, she DID tripped over winged-dragon🐲 Spike♂️'s tail by mistake. Whoa! [Thud] Oh! Ow🤕. That hurts 😢
@Pat the Guitarist
1 likeI like Carnation🥳 Celebration🎊 🎆
@zeb jensen
1 likeDon't worry, sweetheart. Discord♂️, the Spirit🌠 of Chaos, turned good😇
@zeb jensen
1 likeI believe in zombies🧟♀️
@zeb jensen
1 likeIt's okay. Accidents happen
@{ Bl●●d moon gamer }
2 likesIt's all right. You can do your things your way, just your way you like 👍
@Claire Leibel
1 likeThey HAVE so!😠!
@Galaxy Moonglow
1 like😠 But,Galaxy Moonglow, she DID bring magic🌌 to the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫 in the first place 😤
@nupur goel
1 likeUnless human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️👩(😇)🧡 defeated Midnight Sparkle♀️🦹♀️(😈)💜
@Galaxy Moonglow
1 likeUnless Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ brought magic🌌 to the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫 in the first place 👍
@Galaxy Moonglow
1 likeDon't worry. Human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ brought magic🌠 to the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫 in the first place. Human👩 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️ is one the Canterlot High School🏫 students. And, human👩 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️, Canterlot High🏫's Owlowiscious♂️🦉🤎, and dog🐶 Spike♂️🐶💚💜 are part of the adventurous🧭 Equestria Girls👩
@Thinkwithvideos
1 likeUnless the Mane 6 found them 👍
@Saj Khan we probably don't get to see them for all we know they could be in China or something
0 likesI just said that
1 like@The Anti Critic dude this is a my little pony music and theory channel
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Maybe she took the 5 elements at the castle of the two sisters but she got overthrown by the other villains than she failed
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Maybe she took the 5 elements at the castle of the two sisters but she got overthrown by the other villains than she failed
0 likesMaybe she took the 5 elements at the castle of the two sisters but she got overthrown by the other villains than she failed
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Maybe she took the 5 elements at the castle of the two sisters but she got overthrown by the other villains than she failed
0 likesGood point
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves can I add something on to to your point of your theory point what if she decided to team up with Sombra cozy glow grogar (A.K.A. Discord) Queen Chrysalis and her changelings the storm King and if the Dazzlings would have won the battle of the bands that time Aria blaze Adagio dazzle and sonata dusk then we would really have problems then we would have to see an alternative version of princess Celestia and Luna say we all the help we can get the Equestria is under attack badly we need all the help we can get like right away they are not allowed to gossip about school at all it's going to be all fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight until they finally go away permanently
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves hi sawtooth I know this video is two years old but I have a new theory on starlight glimmers alternate timelines, more specifically the barren wasteland one, we all know that sunset shimmer could never have been the cause of that timeline you proved that quite wonderfully, however there is one scenario that could.....remember starlights dream that she had after she switched Celestia and Luna's cutie marks? The one where Celestia and Luna became Daybreaker and nightmare moon respectively and started fighting each other? What if that actually happened in that reality? Let me paint the picture: Princess Celestia gets angry at her sister Luna for what ever reason or is corrupted by an outside foe like say Sombra or some other hidden foe, loses control of her magic and in the middle of the the night turns into Daybreaker, after the transformation she raises the sun and refuses to lower it in a reverse nightmare moon fashion Luna upon seeing her sister out of control tries to reason with her and is forced to fight refusing to involve twilight and the mane 6 and the elements of harmony due to her experience with the elements and she doesn't want to seal her sister away, soon all of Equestria start taking sides in the fight, some support the solar empress Daybreaker, and some support the lunar princess, Princess Luna the fighting is long and arduous but neither side is willing to give, sooner or later Luna start to get weaker, her mental fortitude gone, she hears the voice of nightmare moon telling her that the only way she can beat Daybreaker is by using her power, weakened by the fight she succumbs and becomes nightmare moon once again and start fighting each other once more, the armies of each princess upon seeing the devastation wrought by the fighting decide to band together to save the princesses but ultimately fail, Daybreaker ultimately wins the fight against her sister but ultimately loses when she consumed by her own power in a huge explosion incinerating everything resulting in the barren wasteland you see in starlight glimmers alternate timelines.
0 likesIf Sunset never tripped over Spikes tail her plan wouldve suceded
1880 likesReplies (53)
True
71 likesOh wow
41 likesLol
22 likeslmao
18 likesNever thought of that lollll
40 likesIkr
8 likesSpike saved them, he should get some more credit.
95 likes@Izuku Midoriya heyy where’s uraraka
1 like@izzu_ I don't knowwww
2 likesI am the “pie” likes. (314 to 3.14)
5 likesYeah. Pets really are Special
3 likesOof
1 likeLol
1 likeif spike hadn't given her those eyes scitwi's plan would've succeeded
13 likesT a i l g o b r r r
0 likesso if she was paying attention she would’ve succeeded
2 likesAnd I oop
Yeah, but it was pretty dark, so you can't blame her, can you?
3 likesWow….I never thought of that 😂
2 likesSpike made evil sunset and sci twi lose
8 likesWait a minute, SPIKES THE TRUE HERO OF MLP?
8 likesTrue
0 likesI-
0 likesXD
You’re totally right
1 likeThat’s about the funniest way to fail
4 likes@Penny Robinson what are you talking about
1 likeTrue
0 likes@*moonlight sapphire* I kind of thought about that too I just remembered but I didn't really go into that.
1 likeSucceed
0 likes*
0 likes@JaxTerGames I like the star *
0 likes@Izuku Midoriya
1 likeThat's right. Winged-dragon🐉 Spike♂️ is pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️'s Number One Assistant and royal👸 adviser. And always will be 😇
@Homera Ahmad
0 likesSome people have pets. Some people don't
@Ethan Beharry
0 likesBut he HAD so
@Ahaana Singh
0 likesHe's one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇
@Best Bacon Gaming
0 likesBut, pal, human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️, human👩 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️, and dog🐶 Spike♂️ are one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇
@Windy Whistles MLP
0 likesWhat kind of stars🌟?
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 This * that
0 likesJaxTerGames did
Lol 🤣,tho that is true
0 likes@Ethan Beharry maybe if her fire glasses burnt out before she couldn't see the eyes
0 likesThis also means spike caused the magic crisis because if sunset succeeded scitwi wouldn't have destroyed the horse statue
0 likesSo actually Spike saved the day 👏👏
0 likesThe f-
0 likeslo
0 likesLOL XD
0 likesNow that i think abt it i feel like theres a deeper meening .It kinda shows how the smallest little detail can change so much!
1 like@eunahjang wrong pi my friend 🤣
0 likesLol
0 likesVery true but I think sunset will still be sus
0 likesHow?
0 likesTrue
0 likesSpike the brave and glorious
1 likeHahahahahahahaha
0 likesSpike saved equestria
0 likesI always headcanoned that the final timeline is a timeline in which every villain led their attacks, causing blow after blow after blow to equestria. Their plans may have even clashed with eachother and caused battles between dictators. Sombra, crysalis, and nightmare moon, all after eachothers' heads? All while flim and flam are busy destroying the local ecosystem? THAT could truly leave the world a wasteland.
242 likesReplies (1)
Oh yeah and without the elements the tree of harmony died and the everfree forest destroyed everything in the end
8 likesMy head cannon is that the last time line is where starlight succeeds in removing all the cutie marks in equestria
1642 likesReplies (44)
well my theory is that the last one is celestia nightmare
70 likes@miriam oquendo mederos what you mean by "Celestia nightmare"?
23 likes@unripe THE Berrby She would do anything for her ponies,unicorns and pegasus in another way she can activite the elmments of harmony without the main six but if you look to the other episodes there are like the main six and celestia night mare
52 likesI think it does not fit.
45 likesFirst, it would be really hard to gett ALL cutie marks of EQUESTRIA
Second, why is the place all burn and dead then? When a pony not have a cutie mark they still alive and still have magic, even a little
The idea of being a Sunset tineline fits more because
The place can be burn by Sunset since she was a demon who probably has powers related to fire
It looks like another Tirek timeline since when he was in his full form the sky was dark and red (since no one was controlling the sky) and he has fire related power
@miriam oquendo mederos do you mean day breaker?
27 likes@TheArcticFox :D well is not exacly daybreaker celestia's nightmare is mostly starlight's
8 likes@miriam oquendo mederos so the nightmare starlight had where celestial turned evil?
8 likes@TheArcticFox :D and remember nightmare moon but that was episodes later soo idk what could have happend there
4 likes@oOf But if Twilight didn't become Princess, Sunset wouldn't be able to steal the crown.
28 likesWithout cutie Marks, no pony would be able to grow food and no pony cold control the weather. And that's how it could have happeneed. She could use ponies she already "brainwashed" to help her collect all cutie Marks.
that actually makes sense O.o
3 likes@TheArcticFox :D Umm no have you even waxched the episode were starlight cutiemark is called in the map
3 likes@miriam oquendo mederos yes but evil celestial is called day breaker. Not nightmare celestial.
8 likes@miriam oquendo mederos it’s starlights night mare where nightmare moon and daybreaker fight.
4 likes@TheArcticFox :D ik im just saying my theory is that the last one could be celestia's nightmare
5 likes@miriam oquendo mederos interesting. Sorry the grammar in your first was off so it wasn’t really clear if you meant an actual nightmare or a person. It’s interesting but I personally don’t think that’s right. The one reason is the fact that I doubt twilight and sunset could get into celestial nightmares.
4 likes@TheArcticFox :D yea is ok
2 likes@miriam oquendo mederos Ahh I understand now as well! Glad you had more comments to elaborate lol...
1 likeYea, it is a nice theory at least.
If it could or couldn't happen in the actual show...
I think you are right, especially cause it was a Starlight focused episode. As well as the fact that the crown wouldn’t exist if Twilight had never found the sixth element
3 likesMaybe the Parasprites ate the entire equestria? Lol
2 likesNo one has said this yet (as far as I know) but mabye we have seen the last timeline in a certain fanfic...
1 likeFallout: Equestria
Yea that might be true
1 likeI completely agree
1 likeI think that all of the timeline's villains got into a huge fight on who gets to rule and ended up destroying everything including themselves
2 likes@Marlhy Murphy XD
1 likeOooOoo, I like it!
0 likes@oOf If starlight did take all of the pony's cutie mark. This could happen. Everyone has no talent. Everything fades away.
1 likeAnd fallout insused
0 likesActually she did not remove them she replaced them with equal signs
0 likesMaybe it's cozy glow timeline. Without ALL the equestrian magic.
3 likesYou're my favourite YouTuber whatever you're having your whoever you are you are YouTuber or you the from the room watching
0 likes@miriam oquendo mederos daybreaker*
0 likes@Raptor Zeraora oh yes sorry
0 likes@miriam oquendo mederos You mean Daybreaker.
0 likes@oOf imagine if EVERY talents were removed. Weather ponies like Rainbow Dash wouldn't be able stop storms. Dangerous animals would attack everyone without ponies like Flutter Shy to calm them. Ponies like Apple Jack specialized in agriculture helped the ground to be fertile. Plus, she would have also take Magic from the princesses, so no sun, no moon and so no Cadance to stop Sombra. Magic would be gone.
0 likesThat's actually an end where no one could have stopped Tyrek, Sombra, Chrysalis and many more. And who isn't telling us she stopped at ponies?? She probably has enough magic abilities to take dragons, griffins or even changelings abilities!
We can actually see she isn't just taking talents but also abilities in flying, magic or strength. They're all equal. Just ponies from our world.
MAYBE
0 likes@unripe THE Berrby day breaker
0 likesYES THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
0 likes@Snobey yeah but she wouldn’t have been able to do it without Starlight or the artifacts at the school so I don’t really think so
0 likesWhat never made sense to me I'm this episode was if Starlight stopped the sonic rainboom from happening then why didn't Twilight also lose her cutie mark and her alicorn powers, since if she failed her entrance exam and was not accepted into Celestia's school, then she would never have become a princess and therefore never gotten her wings, so Twilight should have become just another unicorn battling against Starlight Glimmer minus her wings and possibly cutie mark.
0 likesThe rest of her friends didn't get their cutie marks because the sonic rainboom was effectively prevented.
My theory is that the barren wasteland was caused by an all-out battle and someone used a spell of annihilation or Armageddon and there is believed to be no life remaining and it might have been caused by some kind of advanced weapon like a nuke of some sort, if the ponies or others ever figured out that kind of technology.
0 likesBut it probably was simply an all out war that killed everyone.
I like to think its a few villains combined timeline where a few of them fought this devastating battle that lasted for quite a while ruining the ability for ponies and other creature to peacefully care for the land and eventually nobody came out on top either in one strike it killed all the villains in the fight but it was too late for the land or a drought or fire had killed everyone
0 likesAs twilight says “and what your doing leads here” to starlight makes me think that the villain that succeeds is starlight glimmer it’s just we don’t see her in that timeline.
0 likes@vikk biff The way I see it is that Twilight kept her natural form as an Alicorn for 2 reasons, one of which affected Starlight as well. The first, exclusive to Twilight, is that she had a direct link to the Cutie Map, which also ignored the shifts in the timeline because it's world-level magic that would always self correct and stand as a warning that things weren't as they should be. The second reason that also applied to Starlight being unaffected by the changing timelines is that she wasn't FROM those timelines. She was sent to them by the Time Travel spell when it's origin point changed due to Starlight meddling. Twilight and Starlight were from what could be called the Prime Timeline, the one that exists without extra-temporal interference. And since the other timelines are a product of extra-temporal interference by a pony from the Prime Timeline, the Prime Timeline has to happen, meaning Prime Twighlight and Starlight have to exist as they do, and by casting the Time Travel spell they've placed themselves outside of that little loop of causation in a way that lets them see and experience the changes they cause. It's like that episode in the show was a knot in the rope of time, and what Starlight was doing was pulling individual threads loose to fray the knot, creating tiny, dramatic offshoots that go nowhere because they can't exist without the main rope. Like the short time travel in the 3rd Harry Potter book and movie, they just reaffirmed what was already set to happen.
0 likes@unripe THE Berrby When she had her own nightmare moon. I forgot the name but it makes sense.
0 likesWhen you realize Sunset is the only villain that relies on the Mane Six coming together to even start her plan:0
871 likesReplies (16)
Midnight does too.
25 likes@Frosty Who's Midnight?
9 likes@Jennifer Smith the evil twilight
20 likes@Gaby Boavv Oh, you mean Midnight Sparkle? From Equestria Girls?
37 likesTirek and cosy glow..?
12 likesI gues that's why she was one of easy reformed villains, because she relays on friendship
11 likes@bquncy Discord?
1 like@Haxior yes, him too.
2 likeswatch their recent video even chrislikis plan needed that kinda I guess any who do you think she would adapt who knows?
1 likeChrysaliss too cuz her plan relies on cadence and shining which would've never happened if twilight never got rain BOOMED which was because of rainbow and which is was caused the mane 6 to get there cutie mark and defeat queen chrysaliss in season 2
2 likesHave all of you guys even watched the episode that Sawtooth is talking about
0 likesCutie Re Mark
If the villains have to rely on the Rainboom then how would the alternate timelines came to be
Do you think that the villains are so stupid that they don’t have any back up plans
@Jennifer Smith
1 likeMidnight🌃🕛 Sparkle♀️ is one of the Forces☠ of Evil💀. But don't worry, human👩 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️ is one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇.
Goodness😇 versus Evil😈
@bquncy
1 likeI hate👿 Tirek♂️ as one of the Forces☠ of Evil💀. But don't worry, I like the good😇-hearted💛 Cozy Glow♀️(🦄 + 🦄🌠🕊)[🛡♟💖 + 🛡🔴⚪🟣, ♟🟣, 💖](👩🏫😇💞)💖 better 😇. She's one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇, she's a Member of the Cutie Mark Crusaders, she's part of the adventurous🧭 Mane 7, and she's the Spirit🌌 of the Element💎(👑) of Caring💖(😇)
@Haxior
1 likeDon't worry, buddy, Discord♂️, the Spirit🌠 of Chaos, turned good😇, because of pony🦄 Fluttershy♀️(🦄 + 🐴🕊)💛's Kindness😇
@Best Bacon Gaming
1 likeI like it when Rainbooms happens. It's better 😇
Cozy, Midnight, The Sirens, Chrysalis
0 likesI've got a pretty good idea about what caused the barren wasteland timeline.
465 likesThis is it -
We saw the everfree forest take over at the beginning of season 4, kidnapping Luna and Celestia in the process. All this happened due to the Tree of Harmony dying due to the absence of the elements. The Mane 6 restored the elements to the tree, bringing the forest under control.
But, in the alternate timeline, where the Rainboom never happened, the elements were still in their original forms at the Castle of the Two Sisters. So, as the Tree of Harmony died due to the absence of the elements, the forest took over, destroying Ponyville in the process. But, it didn't stop there. As it went farther, with no pony to stop it, it destroyed everything that stood in its path. Later, as time went on, the soil lost its fertility (as we see when dry sand gets blown away from Twilight's hoof in season 5. This usually happens when the soil is infertile and completely eroded), killing the remaining plants and weeds. And so, that's how Equestria was turned into a barren wasteland in the final timeline.
I have no idea whether this makes any sense but it does to me (I'm only 13).
Edit: Or maybe I'm just overthinking it.
Edit 2: omg thank you so much for the likes!
Replies (17)
Awesome that could have happened
37 likesAnd that isnt overthinking it’s creating theories
@Annika Mangal, thank you for your kind words 😊.
13 likesThat was my thought, too! The wasteland makes a lot of sense as the result of the Tree of Harmony dying + nopony around like the Main 6 who could embody the spirits of the elements and keep them alive.
21 likesThe fact that there seems to be no structure or life left in that timeline at all, just barren emptiness, makes me think it had to have been caused by some kind of fundamental, undiscriminating, mindless force and not just your standard villain takeover. Unless it was multiple villains who started fighting amongst themselves and inadvertantly destroyed the world that way, but still ... Villains usually have a motive behind what they do -- power, conquest, revenge, etc. -- and can reason and make decisions like who to attack and who to spare. What would be the point of just wiping out everything? There'd be nopony to command, nopony to enslave, nopony to hurt, and no food or resources to sustain you, either. If you don't die yourself, you'd be the ruler of a dead world, and where's the fun in that?
That's a really good theory!
9 likesThat’s a really good theory :)
5 likesThat’s a really good theory~
6 likesI'm 11 and i understood it
4 likesYours is a good idea. Mine is equally as disturbing. Nuclear warfare by the US government after they accidentally found the portal. Look throught history and tell me if there was any such thing as a peaceful first encounter. Hint: you'd be wasting your time trying to find one. It doesn't exist.
8 likes@Scott Williams Well that's dark
5 likesits posable but daybraker could have and would have burnd down the everfree forest but the everfree forest would atleast put up a fite and probly chock its enameas and banish the spiret of harmony to limbo or somthing.
2 likes@{ѕσρнιє ℓєє} same
2 likesYou posted this comment a year ago so happy birthday I guess :D
2 likes@D0RKY Gosh, yeah! It was actually 5 days ago. But still, thank you!
3 likes@Akshitha's World oh wow I was only 5 days away! Happy 5 days late birthday then :D
2 likes@D0RKY thank you!!And great coincidence 🤣
3 likes@Akshitha's World 😁😁
2 likesthats great idea! plz read mine (im only 9)
1 likeOk how about this: that empty wasteland of a timeline wasn’t caused by anyone in particular but it was caused by the absence of something. The absence of the elements of harmony and the main six. What if because they weren’t there, equestria gave up hope and disassembled due to something bad happening. Or a villain or two or many conquered it and then conquered each other out of anger or a hunger for power. Or because of something else. I want to leave it open to possibilities but I think that’s what happened. It was the absence of something and not the appearance of a new thing. I hope you like my theory!
238 likesReplies (10)
Oh maybe due to there not being the 6th element that fulfills the power there was destruction because the villains were trying to look for that power and never got it it would have never existed leaving that gap and that gap wouldve played a major part in society and bc it wasnt there nothing was ever fulfilled nor of had peace in equestria leaving everywhere to be destroyed and destruction
16 likesYeah, that's pretty much why all these disasters happened.
6 likesWhat if the tree of harmony was damaged due to the element of magic turning evil which either caused equestria to fall apart or let something free that was stopped from breaking out by the tree of harmony?
7 likes@Amy Logan I like that theory as well! It makes a lot of sense too.
1 likeGood one or... The pariprites made the las ending
2 likesEquestria gave up hope is more possible since we saw what happened in Rainbow Roadtrip
6 likes@Roxanne Wolf no not really. All of those timelines had different things that happened at different times. Meaning that in some of those timelines, even without the main Six, they were able to survive through some of the problems. So my theory is still plausible. I know it’s very generic and straight forward, but it also has a lot of possibilities which I like.
3 likes@pearlene grace I do agree with the fact that they gave up hope, but just because they gave up hope, does not mean they would vanish. There would be some trace of them left behind.
1 like@a person🐈⬛ interesting idea! The parasprites might be why everything is barren because they ate everything!
0 likes@Unknown Person
1 likeDon't be ridiculous 😠!
With heros🦸♀️ around, Goodness😇 always triumphs😤 over Evil💀 if it's the last thing I ever do 😡
For the Barren Wasteland: I think it could’ve been a timeline where Celestia snapped. She was tired being the high-and-mighty ruler. She was also mad at the ponies, because she had to protect them, which caused her to banish her sister to the moon. This initially broke Celestia, so...she lost her sanity. Becoming Daybreaker out of the hate and loss...she enslaved Equestria. Daybreaker decided to release Nightmare Moon, but soon saw she tried to take over, so...in a heartbreaking twist...Daybreaker kills Nightmare Moon. This causes her to lose her sanity even more, because she had to protect the ponies once again, so she had to kill her own sister, and she decided to punish the ponies and Equestria...by burning the land to the ground.
33 likesReplies (4)
I've always wondered about Celestia having a darker side we've never seen.. I'm liking this theory a lot!
2 likes@molly cave Thanks.
0 likesOr just banish nightmare moon again
0 likes@Alethea Syna San Jose True. Although, I don’t think Daybreaker banishing Nightmare Moon again would’ve caused the land to be burned, so-to-speak. Still, it’s just a theory.
0 likesBut there was no alternate future where the sirens weren’t defeated. There should’ve been that.
168 likesReplies (6)
When you say, the sirens were never defeated, do you mean in Rainbow Rocks or when Starswirl banished them? I might have some ideas either way.
5 likes@Jennifer Smith I meant in Equestria, where they weren’t banished.
6 likes@Garth Davis The way I imagine it, Equestria would turn out very similar to the future from 'A Hearth's Warming Tail', since the windigos would feed off of the fighting that the sirens would cause.
9 likesThe sirens only had that plan when the sunset was defeated and the rainbow lazer things
9 likesIt makes sense. They were banished by Starswirl long before the sonic rainboom, so that wouldn't change. Without the sonic rainboom the mane 6 would never meet, there would be no crown for Sunset to steal, and no Equesetrian magic in the human world for Adagio to notice and come to Canterlot High. So every Equestria Girls villain wouldn't exist (as a villain) to be or not be defeated
4 likesThere is also the windlgos
0 likesPersonally, I see the ashlands timeline as the ending where Celestia became Daybreaker.
427 likesAlso cool that my demon Sunset vector was used as a thumbnail. :P
Replies (11)
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!!!!!!!!
7 likesEEEEEEEEE HIIII
3 likesA timeline with daybreaker is an nice idea.
17 likesOh yeah that makes sense!! Because without night the land would overheat which would cause droughts and famines which would turn equestria into a wasteland
39 likesThat actually makes sense. It would be too hot to do anything, and plants would die out. No plants, means ponies would starve, and ect.
21 likesSame, I imagine it like: Starlight never became Twilights Student so never helped Luna and Celestia fix their problems so in the end Celestia felt neglected and changed to Daybreaker
17 likesNice
1 likeI was gonna say the same thing
0 likesWhat about Wall Flower's Timeline
0 likesI also think that the last time line was daybreaker’s
0 likesWow wow
0 likesSomething to remember: the season five finale happens in the same time frame of The Friendship Games where Sci-Twi becomes midnight sparkles and creates a rift through time
10 likesReplies (1)
This may be the most likely reason that it’s the final timeline. The two realms probably collided.
0 likes“Tearing an irreparable hole between worlds”
48 likesReminds me of someone...
hinting to Midnight Sparkle
I was thinking three things
92 likes(1) maybe Sunset decided to study the elements of Harmony (as Twilight did before she found them) in hopes of getting the element of magic to help her take over Equestria, and since Sunset used to be friends with the rest of the mane 6 in the human world (aka Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, Apple Jack, Rarity, and Pinkie), and she probably would have put together the pieces and realized that they were the other elements (I mean Sunset is pretty smart), so she decided to stay friends with them in hopes of using them to help her get the elements of the future, basically using them to help her overthrow Equestria and causing that final time line
(2) I was also wondering if that final timeline might have been a result of shedemon human Twilight, I mean if the events of the first thing I said occurred but Sunset was stopped, then the magic might have gone back to the human world and the mane 6 would still have their magic, meaning shedemon Twilight could still take their magic at the games and cause those holes in between the human and pony world, possibly causing the holes to get so large making the worlds merge and then inevitable war, chaos, and destruction
(3) or the sirens got strong enough in the human world, somehow, and without anyone to stop them they were able to destroy Equestria
Replies (14)
Probably the first one
6 likesThe first one is very interesting but we know Sunset became evil because she was envious of Twilight
4 likesOr sunset became a diplomat to the zebra lands but she wasn't a good diplomat and ended up starting a war with the zebras, only to lead to a nuclear fallout. She was in Camelot when the pink cloud began and she made it into the ministry of image only to be killed by the shadowsprites.
4 likesThe sirens wanted to rule Equestria, so why would they destroy it?
3 likes@Jennifer Smith Did they? Or would they have ended like tirex?
3 likes@Kirk Lundberg It's possible, but I don't think it would be intentional.
4 likesIf they did destroy Equestria, there would be no one left to adore them.
Ooooohhhhhhhh... oh no
2 likes@Jennifer Smith Very valid point that I don't believe I thought of before. And although I don't entirely remember what was going through my mind at the time I believe that I was referring to how the sirens made everyone fight with each other so the ponies themselves would be the ones destroying Equestria, not the Sirens themselves. There is most likely holes in this thought tho so please correct me in any way possible or tell me some of your thoughts, I love discussing these things
0 likes@Marlhy Murphy true true! although, and my memory is a bit foggy so I might be wrong, but wasn't Sunset Celestia's student before Twilight but Sunset wanted more so she turned cruel and dishonest causing Celestia to like punish Sunset by putting her in the human world or something? Once again I don't remember exactly what it was so I could be entirely wrong
0 likes@Rebecca Paiotti Da Silva You actually make a valid point. I never thought of the ponies destroying Equestria, but it's possible. Maybe the windigos could have something to do with it, since they feed on hatred.
2 likesI love discussing this stuff too, hence why I watch theory channels like this so much.
@Jennifer Smith ooo the windigos coming back would make a lot of sense!!! But now I’m wondering that if the windigos did come back and they were also feeding off of the ponies hatred would that cause some sort of fight in between the windigos and the sirens or no since the sirens would feed off of making the ponies hate each other and then the windigos would feed off of the hate that the ponies create, kinda like a food chain
0 likes@Rebecca Paiotti Da Silva I don't think the sirens and windigos would need to fight each other. After all, the sirens cause fighting and the windigos feed off of it. It's a self sustaining cycle. I think they just co-exist. Not enemies, not friends.
1 like@Jennifer Smith true! Wait so since before Equestria was founded all of the ponies would fight so the windigos came out does that possibly mean that before Equestria the ponies possibly lived in a state similar to that or exactly like that, like the if the sorens are what originally made the ponies fight with each other bringing about the windigos
0 likes@Rebecca Paiotti Da Silva I think you're onto something. In "Shadow Play", we actually see the sirens causing ponies to fight, and we don't see any of the three tribes together, just earth ponies, making it likely that this is pre-equestria.
0 likesIdea. What if that final timeline was actually...... DAYBREAKER?
96 likesReplies (5)
Maybe it can
5 likesAnd the land burned because of the sun so the land was so barren and daybreaker died after there was nothing to eat.
9 likes@Beetriceretops but nightmare moon didn’t die when she was on the moon. I doubt there’s food up there.
2 likes@dog in a box has i good point but it is and interesting idea
0 likesIn the comics, Nightmare Moon found some tribes
0 likesI think the seventh timeline could’ve been the result of Cozy Glow. Her plan was to destroy all magic in equestria, but magic is basically what holds equestria together.
13 likesReplies (1)
but cosy glow only learnt about friendship because of the mane 6
0 likesYour theory on sunset not succeeding brings up a good point but I think the last timeline that starlight created with the barren wasteland is quite ambiguous, it could be any other villain apart from the ones we have alr seen like maybe cozy since she would steal all the magic and completely breaking down every thing in EQ, could be daybreaker since she wouldn’t let the sun go down and would just burn everything and everyone into a crisp, or the storm king succeeded in enslaving EQ and took all the magical Essence in EQ hence the barren wasteland and just moved on or it could even be all the villains in that faced each other only to destroy each other by themselves or even the windigos , there are too many possibilities for this one, so it’s hard to say who won in that timeline ( idk bout starlight and teh pony of shadows tho)
17 likesIf sunset was the victor (my take on this sry if it’s too Long I usually write Long thoughts)
If sunset rlly did succeed in this timeline she definitely must have done something diff to achieve her motives apart from needing the element of magic , I mean canterlot high’s trip to camp everfree isn’t too far away as well and yes I’m saying she could have just found out the EQ geodes exists and with such malicious intent I wouldn’t be surprised if she beat gloriosa ( can’t remember how to spell her name lmao) when it comes to those geodes and these geodes are basically the elements of harmony except instead of only having one of them , sunset has a full SET(set lol )of them which could possibly grant her more power than she had in the first movie. She would definitely be more than capable of taking on EQ regardless of wether she had an army or not. The key to sunset’s victory is camp everfree since it wasnt affected by twilight at all regardless of which timeline it was so sunset would have found the geodes sooner or later , sawtooth pointed out that sunset could not have gotten a victory but I think otherwise I think he forgot the geodes which is the definite factor in her success imo, we know that sunset is not an idiot she is shown to be smart manipulative and Creative and she isn’t weak by any stretch so who knows she could have taken advantage of the tension between gloriosa and filthy rich and just took teh geodes to dominate her region and then finally try to take over EQ with immense, the alicorns would definitely meet their match especially since star swirl and the pillars are not around and discord hasn’t been reformed . The mane six would not be here and shiny armour would be the only other one who could stand up to demon sunset. If she did succeed then she would have done teh same thing that daybreaker would hypothetically do and drive EQ into a barren waste land and go to new worlds to conquer as some other ppl have theorised chances of this happening could be somewhat high since teh geodes would fall into sunset’s hands anyway ,so that’s what I think could have happened with a victorious sunset time line , the geodes form camp everfree are the key.
Replies (2)
I don’t think, she could have gotten the geodes. Yeah she is extremely smart, but to me it seemed like the geodes only existed because of the holt between human and pony world. If I remember correctly, after Friendship games there was a hole at the portal by the destroyed wondercolt statue. In my mind the geodes got there power because of that lacking magic from equestria. And I also think the friendship games wouldn’t have gone like this if Sunset wouldn’t have brought the crown in. She must have brought equestrian magic in the human world so the human mane 6 could have the magic to be stolen by Twilight. I think the only thing from the human world that got over to equestria and could have destroyed it are the sirens. But I don’t think they would have had enough power without equestrian magic to do equestria much damage.
2 likes@jane 4 maybe you’re right idk I brought up the geodes only becuz they are kind of like the elements of harmony so I would magic they would be on the same lvl . Idk if the geodes rlly got their magic from the statue, I don’t think it’s confirmed yet. I always assumed that the geodes were always there and was just protected by some magic since sunset said” where did the magic that hid this save come from” so I thought the geodes were alr there. And the magic thing we saw at the end was just for some other stuff. Yea the friendship games is rlly the only hole in my theory, and the ending scene for legend of everfree was rlly confusing.
2 likesI would say out of all the doomed timelines, the one with the least casualties would likely be Discord's, he seems more like someone who just wants to have fun in a chaotic fashion, and without Fluttershy to persuade him into being one of the protagonists, he would just be focused on his own amusement though I highly doubt he would cause anyone's death, at least not purposefully. Nightmare Moon, according to the legend of Nightmare Night, would devour others if not given proper tribute and respect. she wouldn't cause as many deaths as Chrysalis, Tirek, nor Sunset, but would still have a higher death toll then Discord.
3 likesThat last timeline kinda reminds me of how the land looks after it has been burned down. So when I saw it for the first time, the first thing I thought was Day Breaker. Maybe that's a timeline where instead of Luna turning into Nightmare Moon, it was Celestia who did and since Celestia can be considered stronger than Luna, no one would be there to stop her with the Main Six gone.
5 likesHasbro: Makes a show for little girls
2195 likesThe show: Haha death and timelines go brrrr
Replies (37)
ayo !! men can like mlp too!
61 likesHah it do be like that thoo
17 likes@neptunes well yes but the target demographic was for little girls
38 likes@neptunes hey, is your name Maia? Me too!😂💖🌌🌸🌹
9 likesI am no little girl and I love MLP
25 likesBronys: FBI OPEN UP
13 likes2:25 I think that unknown timeline might have been Starlight’s timeline. How? I’ll explained it.
24 likesSince the mane six never came together, there wouldn’t be any barriers for Starlight’s cutie mark philosophy back when she ruled that village. Her plan was to make all of Equestria give up their cutie mark, and she could’ve spread to other areas of Equestria. She could’ve cast a spell to her village in order to help her take over one area. After that, she would unite all those who lost their cutie mark as part of her army. It kept getting larger.
With the staff of sameness, she could’ve secretly have took away the princesses’ cutie marks, and probably used all of the cutie marks she got to make herself powerful and stronger. Without anyone stopping her, she would’ve caused even more damage to everyone and maybe even got to a fight with Celestia and Luna, and since she’s good with magic, she would’ve caused a lot of destruction. And eventually defeating them. With all that power, she would probably destroy Equestria by going crazy about her past or something. And leading up to a wasteland.
@Abhijnan Mukherjee it's so famous now, I don't know if their trying to make among us videos because it's so new to me.
6 likes@neptunes Honestly Mlp is so cool, even thought im older now i love to rewatch the show, its part of my childhood. Its sad that it has come to an end
12 likesKali go brrrrr
3 likesI love my Little pony and I'm not little
2 likesAhhahahahahahah
0 likes@Yolo Master wait thats a good theory-
2 likes@ISABELLE DYER we don't really care how old you are, I'm just saying the show was mad for little girls. But then the bronies appeared and now all genders all ages watch mlp
6 likesIt's not about age... It's about ponies
:D
@yourpathetic =) / bright! that's my point :D
1 likeikrrr ahhahaa
1 likeThis is Pokémon.
1 like@PerryWinklePlayz Same!
0 likesXDXDXDXDXDXD
2 likesYeah
1 like@Yolo Master how did you Write all that
0 likesLol
0 likesHey and little Boys and men duh idiot
2 likeslittle girls? boys can like this show too :/
3 likesTrue
1 like@ISABELLE DYER you are still a child and so am i
1 likeEvening
0 likesWell not only for little girls because my mom simply ADORES my little pony and I do as well
1 likeI am like ten and I’ve been watching it since I was 5
1 likeWait so only girls can watch any show with animated ponies?
0 likesLittle girls? A teen like me loves it
2 likes@neptunes it's weird tho
1 like@Sweet_Demonic_ Dreams i’m sorry? can men not like a show. a show has no gender. anyone can like it. that’s like saying a little girl cannot like pokemon cause most of the main characters are men. - coming from a transgender boy (who likes mlp)
2 likes🤣😂😅😂😅😅😂😂😅
1 likeSomeone/somepony developed a atomic bomb. (sarcasm)
1 likeMLP ain't gendered anymore
1 likeEdit: or I guess, has an age limit anymore.
little KIDS!!!
0 likesI know what caused the mystery timeline. I think it was Cozy,Tirek,Chrysalis.
58 likesReplies (3)
when that was released (the episode we saw the timelines) cozy tirek and chrysalis were not even together
6 likes@ur mom but they could have gotten together sometime in the process of the timelines, Celestia was still around in the episode where the nightmare moon timeline was, but she could have been dead in that timeline for all we know
2 likesI don’t think this is correct. After nightmare moon broke free, due to the lack of the element of harmony she took over and soon made tensions from the ponies rise. This would have brought back discord and he would have just made the world into his playground again. Without the presence of the main 6, he wouldn’t have any reason to trial them and bring all of the villains together in the first place. Due to the fact that the mean 3 wouldn’t have even existed without discord’s need to help the main 6, this theory is improbable.
4 likesI think the last time line was almost every villain. Each villain would want to take over and would succeed with the main six gone, but with them gone all the villains wouldn’t team up but instead fight for control over the world leading to destruction
2 likesI don't know what would have happened with Sunset, but I think the last possible future might have been one when all the villains tried to rule Equestria by themselves and the might have destroyed each other trying, leaving Equestria without any living creature around (just a theory) 😄
3 likesFun question: There was a Night Mare Moon scen, but Selectia defeted her the first time, so why didn’t she do it again the second time
35 likesReplies (5)
Celestia
0 likesYeah I thought so
0 likesBecause Nightmare Moon banished Celestia to the moon.
7 likesI lost brain cells trying to read this comment
2 likesI mean she returned a 1000 years later and celestia was seemingly gone
0 likesIt couldn’t have been sunset because if the mane six didn’t meet they wouldn’t find the elements she could only use the five elements which I doubt would give her as much power as the element of magic but think who spreads chaos (drumroll)discord without the man in six to reform him and maybe celestia and Luna couldn’t stop him
0 likesTo me, Sunset Shimmer is kind of like Ultron where there would have been a big chance that if things went differently a bit, things would have turned for the worst. Like how Ultron in What if was able to obtain the synthetic body and infinity stone that he wanted, Sunset Shimmer being able to use the full extent of the Element of Magic is the same thing. The way I see it, if she either gets it at the beginning (If Fluttershy never found the tiara) or at the end of the fall formal and if Twilight would be unable to connect with these versions of friends to stop Sunset Shimmer, she would return to Equestria to warn them of this threat. Meanwhile, Sunset Shimmer would use the students of CHS and whoever else and transform them into her own minions to help her conquest of Equestria. Caught by surprise, everypony would face the might of Sunset Shimmer, with the most powerful artifact at her disposal, attack with her army of transformed minions (I think they, along with Sunset Shimmer, would turn to ponies to resemble this world.) Sure, most of them are just normal humans against experienced ponies but since Sunset Shimmer utilizes an artifact with a lot of magic stored inside, who knows the full capabilities that it possesses and what it could do for this army in terms of power. Overwhelmed, Sunset Shimmer would ultimately defeat the Main 6 and the princesses and maybe turn them into her minions as well, along with all of Equestria. Of course, lustful for power, it would be a matter of time before she would find the rest of the elements of harmony and even the tree of harmony and use their magic for her own benefit. Afterward, she would go across the outer borders of Equestria such as the Changeling Kingdom or Seaquestria to get rid of any creature who would stand in her way. Personally, I think they would all fall, especially Discord. Despite his power, Sunset Shimmer would have in store objects that counteract anything he throws, resulting in his defeat or possibly an even worse fate. She wouldn't stop until everyone everywhere would fall down beneath her in praise or defeat. I know that some people say that she would eventually see that Celestia was right about Friendship but don't forget, this is another form that she took similar to what happened to Midnight Sparkle. Inside, Sunset Shimmer could be regretting the choices she is making but can't stop because of the magic flowing through her choice to be like this. And so, Equestria, heck, even the human world would fall beneath her grasp as the ruler of both worlds, with or without anyone to stand in her way.
2 likesI personally think the last timeline (the wasteland) was a timeline where Starlight wasn’t defeated. Succeeding in ripping everypony from their special talents, such as farming, cooking or weather control, would eventually result in Equestria becoming a ghost town🙁
14 likesWhat if the one we saw that we don't know about was Daybreaker. I saw your video about how Celestia might have turned into Daybreaker if Luna knew how to dream walk before hand. And as seen in the show Luna,or actually Nightmare Moon escaped the moon. So that means if Daybreaker did happen and got sent to the moon(or sun for all we know) she would have most likely escaped over time. And she wouldn't have been defeated because of Starlight stopping the main six from meeting.
4 likesMoral of the day:
514 likesWhen there's trouble make 6 closely bonded teens shoot rainbow lasers
Replies (9)
I wish...
13 likesHah if only
10 likesLOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1 likeLol
1 likeLoloolololololo
1 likeBAHAHA
0 likesI read this, laughed and then started singing my little pony really slow and Creepy
0 likes@Abigail Me too
1 likesrsly?
0 likesHere’s my theory:
1 likeAfter Sunset ran away to the human world(her motive in this timeline unknown), she would go back to the poney world out of curiosity. She then comes across The Castle of Two Sisters, and since she’s the human element of magic, she would’ve accidentally activated the sixth element to appear, getting her the crown. After she does this, she gets her teenage zombies and overthrows Equestria. After a few HUNDRED years or so, Sunset wonders if she can become even more powerful, so she messes around with some magic! What’s the worst that can happen? Both the human and poney world being destroyed, that’s what. You know how poney magic and human magic are complete opposites? Well, it’s my headcannon that using the two magics together, creates an incredibly unstable power and, with Sunset so powerful from the start, she basically exploded everything...And that’s what we see in Starlight’s last timeline(like if u agree)!
And who was the last timeline? The theory was born in my head that this was the future of Starlight Glimer when she managed to steal the cutie marks from everyone.
7 likesPersonally i belive that the Desert Timeline is a timeline where the perasprites came in swarms, and drove everyone to starvation
6 likesMy thoughts: What if Sunset used a different magical artifact to turn herself into a demon and take over everything
6 likesTwo things. First, you are dealing with time travel and as you know, there are loops to connect loops that could make it possible she came across a portal into a different Equestria than the one she left (the many mirror issues from comics). But I think you are right. It is hard to get there.
0 likesBut on a side note: if she succeeded in human world, she would have taken over Luna and Celestia as well. Assuming those two would be alicorns in the pony world (usual 1:1 correlation), and without now full Mane 6, a super-powered Sunset & two zombie alozonrs...would make for a great storyline.
What if, in a moment of desperation, Celestia decided to turn to her former magical prodigy? With a promise of power if Sunset would stand by Celestia's side and aid her in the war, the princess headed to the human world and approached Sunset? Sunnygal over there would agree of course, planning some devious plan for afterwards. But Sunset's approach was too malicious, to violent, leading to the destruction of the world around her. She scorched equestria, leaving neither good nor evil to remain, and that's the world we saw. A world of nothing where only Sunset remains, ruling like she always wanted.
1 likeWe could take this to fanfic territory, like if Twilight and Spike had to help the ponies in each timeline before they could go back, and in the last timeline, after so long without anyone else, Sunset detects Starlight and Twilight, and goes to them full of regret for wishing for power. Seeing how her desperate grasps at power would turn out through Sunset, Starlight slowly starts to finally regret her choices and be content. I wanna read that.
My thought is this: Wendigos
1 likeAt the end of the ninth season the Wendigos returned bringing ancient magic with them. Since without the mane six there was no harmony, im thinking the Wendigos end up coming into every timeline eventually. The last one is an example of such, but this time since no one there was capable of stopping them every creature in equestrian perished. And with no creatures to spread discontent, the Wendigos faded away and eventually so did day and night, leaving the barren wasteland that remained, no life anywhere, no magic remaining.
That's my opinion
I think the last timeline Starlight created that she got to see with Twilight is a nod to the fan-made Fallout Equestria novel and other media. I mean that scenary looks like it could fit perfectly with the Fallout Equestria universe.
1 likeI always thought that last timeline was a timeline where Starlight had taken over. Look at how barren and hopeless her town was once she took everyone’s special talents away. If she had been able to spread her beliefs throughout Equestria, creating a false harmony, I believe Equestria would’ve ended up like the barren waste land like we saw.
201 likesReplies (27)
I’d always assumed it was all the villains taking over at the same time but I like ur thought to
18 likesYeah! I always thought the same!
2 likesIt also could have been Daybreaker
5 likesI thought it was starlight too
1 likeI think the last timeline was Tricxe’s
0 likesWOAH TRUE
0 likes@Limakatso Ramokoena could have also been cosie glow
1 likeBecause everything that happened with tricxe would have happened just a little different. Like how cealestia set twilight straight in lesson zero she could have done the same thing with trixce and snips and snails would have eventually come up with the idea of seeing trixce battle a earsa major and trixce could of ran away and still could of gotten the alicorn amulet but if twilight was not there to trick trixce to take off the amulet what if when the amulet controls trixce completely it would have made her fill out sobras plan since was his magic . So trixce would start with ponivle since she was there already and eventually take over all of equestria and would take everypony to one land abandoning there lands
1 likeI thought it was the pony of shadows because of the dark sky around.
0 likes@Dragon Master But he would be in limbo
0 likesYea I thought the same. I mean if you think about it if Starlight had succeeded no pony would have talents to maintain the earth, and without pegasus controlling the weather I could see it spiraling out of control into the weather we see in the last timeline, and the earth becoming as barren and dry as in Starlight's village. Also I kind of like the irony of the timeline that Starlight was so shocked by being a timeline that she would've caused. I feel like the cutie map in that timeline might have some more answers too, but I'm not sure what yet
3 likesedit: So I was looking more at the final timeline map and it actually did seem pretty similar to the normal map, although it did look like cloudsdale was missing which would make sense if Starlight succeeded in that timeline and pegasus didn't control the weather anymore
@The Emerald Khaos good theory
1 like@Spider Pool Thank you
0 likes@Spider Pool I thought so to but coise glow would need the School of friendship to learn that “friendship is power” and with out the mane six that would have not happen
2 likes@Limakatso Ramokoena Good point
0 likes@Spider Pool But Daybreaker isn't real, she was Starlight's nightmare fearingwhat wolud've happen if Celestia☀ and Luna🌙 kept fighting.
0 likes@Luna Guy still could have happened if you think about it
0 likes@Luna Guy hipathedicly of course
0 likesStygian/Pony of Shadows and cosy glow are disqualified, because they came in later seasons.
1 likeStygian/Pony of shadows is disqualified because he and the pillars were freed from limbo by the mane six.
1 like@Limakatso Ramokoena agreed
0 likesThe parasprites!!! They were the adorable and cute insect things who eat everything.
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg Could have also been a combination of things
0 likes@Spider Pool yea
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg I'm thinking a bunch of bad guys trying to screw each other over
1 likeyou have a point about the parasprites that also could be a factor
0 likesgreat point👍👍👍
0 likesI think the last timeline was the ending of the timeline twilight, starlight and spike left behind, or the original timeline. Without twilight the rest of the Mane 6 would fall down and another villain can attack.
3 likesI believe the theory of DayBreaker being the cause of the last timeline. It would make tons of sense. First, everythings burnt. Second, if Celestia didnt take Twilight and Cadence as student and niece, she wouldnt have filled the hole in her heart for when Nightmare Moon got banished. Nightmare Moon wouldve returned and thanks to the elements, Celestia couldve freed Luna. But Luna wouldve found the way to walk in dreams so she wouldnt become Nightmare Moon again cus she felt so bad cus of it. And that wouldve caused Celestia to get jealous, basically the theory you made about DayBreaker. Celestia is pretty powerful already and we saw how powerful DayBreaker was as well. But maybe we didnt saw her full potential aka her power could definitely destroy the entirety of Equestria. Just my opinion x333
1 likethe empty dimension is probably because of Daybreaker. She said she didn't need anypony, so she just destroyed Equestria i guess-
3 likesMy "headcanon" is that the final timeline, the destroyed one, is a reference to the book of "The Time Machine", from Herbert George Wells, where, after traveling thousands of years into the future, the steampunk book proposes a really dark and negative posibility for our future(the human's future!), where, literally THERE'S, NOTHING, LEFT.
0 likesIt just seemed... Odd, that Starlight's single event of denying a rainboom could cause something so devasting and radical as that one!!
Or, at any case, if we gonna adapt that possibilty to the pony world, into a theory...
What if Equestrias dominated by Grogar himself, and he decided, after being about to be defeated by OTHER pony hero/heroine/warevehr, that he decided that, if he couldn't rule, nobody could, and extinguish all Equestria with him?!!!
(Too crazy?? Yes.
I consider it possible? Maaaaaaybe.
I do care if you guys like it? Nah.)
I don’t know if she has a canon name, but I feel like Sunset Shimmer’s evil/demon form would be called Shimmering Eclipse
506 likesReplies (16)
She doesn't have a canon name, in EQG fans call her Sunset Satan or She-Demon Sunset or Sunset Demon, anyway Shimmering Eclipse sounds so cool !!!
94 likes@ღ • Pimika Meaw • ღ "Sunset Satan" Sounds truly amazing that too
35 likesMy proposed Big Macintosh becoming a god
9 likesHer demon name is actually Solar Shimmer
28 likes@loquacious Oh yeah! I looked it up. All these sound cool tho
6 likes@Baked Bean LMFAO-- her demon name is Solar Shimmer though.
6 likesShimmering Eclipse...sounds awesome!
3 likes@ღ • Pimika Meaw • ღ Sunset Satan. I love that. 🥲👌
1 like@loquacious Thank you
1 likeI love just Raging She-Demon
1 likeI always called it Sundown Shimmer because all the evil versions at least have the same last name
1 likeThat's great name
0 likesI love the name "Shimmering Eclipse!" It fits Sunset's goal and the evil naming of every other dark pony WAY better than "Demon Sunset"
4 likes@BluFoods Umm... Nightmare Moon?
4 likesI would just call her Solar Eclipse
0 likesI think "Blazing Sol" sounds cool
0 likesBetter example a timeline where Human flutter shy didn’t pick up the crown and turn it in to celestia I think that would have given sunset a greater chance
18 likeshonestly the first thing i noticed was how when the last timeline came up, it was messed with a lot. you can tell she destroyed a lot of things. and in the equestria girls movie, she took the power and destroyed anything she can do. she didn’t care of how it would end up if she still had the magic in her. also i noticed from that last one, it wasn’t night or day. it was more like a sunset. when princess luna turned into nightmare moon she only kept the moon up and never wanted to bring it down. from some cases on day breaker she would’ve wanted the sun up forever as nightmare wanted to keep the moon. so what if sunset shimmer only kept sunset? she could’ve destroyed celestia and luna and led to a path to that? i know u made a big point from the twilight part and the last element. thing is, if she came to the pony world still with the crown of twilight sparkle, she could’ve defeated her as well. she would’ve defeated celestia and luna if the timeline was hers. so of course, there would be no twilight sparkle present. which she would still have the crown into her own hooves. if i make no sense i’m so sorry. i’m barely learning about the theory’s. i never payed attention to them when mlp was a huge hit
0 likesI think that the wasteland timeline happened as a result of literally all of the villains from Equestria basically coming back at literally the same time and the result was that they had a more dangerous "My horse is bigger than your horse" fight and the end result was that they doomed Equestria because Castra (AKA Discord's NOT girlfriend) thought it would be funny to cause a huge explosion.
9 likesI don't know if others already said that. But I thought this empty timeline where there only was wind and every shown plants dead, etc. Is the Starlight timeline. I think Twilight took Starloght with her, to her own succeed. Here's why:
1 likeIn the village, we saw that no one was able to cook/bake good food. Or making dresses. If all if equestria would be equal, no one could take care of plants, weather, etc. The plants would die. Starlight is good at magic, that doesn't give her the power to handle all the other needed things. So the plants would die, maybe the pony would starve. Nobody controls the weather, the sky seemed only gray, we didn't know if it was day or night. All was gray and boring. Like starlights equality made the ponys less bright.
So, yeah. I think the last timeline we saw, was the Starlight timeline.
My therory on the last timeline is that it's Starlight's timeline. Without special talents, ponies couldn't farm or control the weather.
138 likesReplies (8)
Maybe
1 like@Snowflow The Nine Tailed Fox lol.idk it just makes sense to me
1 likeOr the parasprites went out of control!
7 likes@Kirk Lundberg maybe. I just like the idea that it's Starlight's timeline because it's the one she sees. She might have thought, "Oh crab. Is-is this what will happen to Equestria if I succeed?"
15 likes@Carmen Mercedes they both make sense.
1 likeThat is actually a great idea
0 likesI think its every villain. They went wild and destroyed equestria
1 likeTrue or result of tree of harmony dying.
0 likesReason why: Starlight didn't yet know who she is and didn't know that twi and sun is rivals before and when they met, she thought she is her friend and not former rival
6 likesEdit: It's been 11 months ago after i commented this, and also, if every villain succeeded then she wouldn't get to steal the crown. And they probably tried to make the Eg films non canon thats why it doesn't have any sunset timeline.
The Downfall timeline where everything is Dark and Gloomy is easy to solve if you look at every instance of the friendship map across the various timelines. In the Sombraverse, the crystal empire covers half of equestria. In the Chrysalis Timeline, it's taken over by Plunder Vines from the Everfree Forest and in the Flim Flam Timeline, the Everfree Forest was completely gone.
1 likeIf you closely look at everything in this Gloomy Timeline you can see a lot of wind and Dark Clouds overhead, and looking at the map you can spot a castle surrounded by greenage showing it's not completely dead. Who or what has the ability to manipulate the weather? The Storm King.
Replies (1)
My. Mind. Is. Blown. 🌋🌋🌋🌋🌋
0 likesI think the final timeline is either Grogar somehow returning or simply how Equestria ended up. Even without a specific villain, Equestria may just fall out of harmony without someone (or a few someones) to take care of it and make sure the relationships of ponies and other creatures thrive. Another possibility is the dragons. The episode where Dragon Lord Torch stepped down showed Ember succeeding only because Spike was there by her side. But without Twilight to hatch and raise him the way she did, this never would have occurred. So Garble would probably have become the next Dragon Lord. He said "We'll take whatever we want from the ponies and burn the rest" which looks pretty spot on considering the condition of the timeline. Garble's personality wouldn't have changed much even without the sonic rainboom. Am I missing anything..?
0 likesI may be slightly late but here is my conclusion:
1 likeI believe Sunset could've never gotten her own timeline no matter what, for two reasons, and two reasons only:
1: Yes, I do agree with you on this one, Sawtooth and that was my first reason.
2: Sunset could've never had a timeline even if she had defeated Twilight and her friends, because from what I've heard, seen and what I believe, Starlight came in before Sunset was introduced, meaning there was no possible way for her to get into the timeline, Am I correct? And even if she did come before, I doubt that she would've gotten into the timelines, because I believe that the last one was probably way WAY after Equestria was there, and they traveled too far in time, Plus, there was only seven and there is 9 villains that started off in the PONY world when they became evil.
But, if the last one was her, that could explain the fire themed look with sunset, did you notice how burnt the empty, last timeline looked? It looked like someone had burnt everything, and everyone had to move. Then everything left was disintegrated or taken for maybe her own kingdom of some sort, so she ruled all of the ponies that were left there, or were still there.
If Starlight had not created or even FOUND these timelines, Equestria would not be what it is today. The Ponies would've never met, including Sunset, Starlight and the other mane 6, Any of the villains could've taken over all, the princesses places, it would be dark, the ponies would probably be empty, dead or even possessed / Taken over by the villains, so that's why it would be bad if this never happened. I hope you understand this if you see it!
Thank you!
(P.S) This took like, 10- 15 minutes to write, including thinking on what to say, to make it make sense.
Maybe sunsets envy of twilight was just as strong as twilights friendship with the others. After all, sunset was Celestia's first student and was practically the twilight back then. But still, shouldn't sunset be much older and already the queen before twilight came around. Sunset should've already been the queen or at least not be in a highschool. Although, she could've tried to take the crown after twilight had it, because Celestia never gave Sunset the chance to be queen although she is just as smart as twilight. And if we take real life into hand then I would say that Sunset should have been more powerful. After all, years past and only when twilight came around Celestia gave her the crown and a chance to be a princess and later queen. She never gave Sunset the chance. That would a logical reason to have envy, a lot of it, towards twilight and her friends. Of course that not always the case but it still makes sense. Your theory still is pretty on topic though. Nice job.
1 likeI like to think the last doomed timeline where everything is barren is the result from it’s about time, as I feel like this twilight might have missed a lesson or something, causing her to not know about the time spell, and due to all the things she would have fixed not being fixed, a cascade of events could happen to destroy everything, which in the real time loop was likely the cause for the start of said time loop only she knew about the spell on the main timeline.
0 likesI think that the only way this could happen is if Twilight didn't catch Sunset when she was stealing the crown
12 likesI can actually imagine that the last timeline has something to do with Sunset. Even though it may not have been her plan, but that of another villain. Maybe one of those Equestria wasn't enough. Maybe one of them ever wanted the human world, too. It is not impossible that they could find out about her. Sunset might have seen this as her chance to escape and steal the villains' magic to use it herself. If she had succeeded, there might have been a battle, Sunset, with the stolen magic, against a huge army or a single enemy, depending on who it was. The fight might have escalated, and with the magic, which Sunset might not have been able to control, the universe of this timeline might have been destroyed.
0 likesThe scenario in my head would be, Sunset could have gained the element by sneaking into the castle, taking a train to Ponyvile, and stealing the element of magic. Then she went back to the human world and won the whatever queen ((i haven't watched the movie in a while)) and put on the crown, and then became the demon. And then she hypnotized the high school kids and the principal's so they went threw the portal, but of course the principals first. The guards would have let them pass and then Sunset would come threw. The 'queens' would have made the guards stop to not attack her. They then captured Celesita and Luna, and trapped them in the other world. They hid the mirror away in a secret room only Sunset knew about. And then the fakes made Sunset the new ruler of Equestria, of course people had their doubts based on her looks but then she hypnotized the ponies. She ordered Ponyvile to be taken down so the mane 6 couldn't save Equestria, of course she told them to bring the elements to her and she soon had full control over the elements, the tree, and everything that included whatever the elements connect to and more. This is how i think the abyss of the land was made. It was by that land being untouched by everypony.
2 likesI think the "blank" timeline is Daybreaker's timeline. Celestia would already be the most powerful alicorn - so her future could be deadly. She was known to have a firey color pallette so wouldn't that suggest she was fluent in blasting things and explosions/fire, and the trees in the timeline are brown and black, the colors trees turn into when burnt (unless they fall beforehand). The clouds also look smoky, perhaps Equestria was only recently destroyed (maybe an hour or two ago). Regardless if it's true or not, I find it more likely than Sunset - that's for sure.
0 likesBut what if she succeeded by over throwing the mane six
0 likesIt may have been Sunset Shimmer's future we saw.
0 likesWe know how Twilight got the element of magic, but it was never releveled on how Celestia got the element of magic. Twilight's was that of friendship, but Celestia's could have been for her sister (sisterhood). If that is the case then that could explain why the elements did not work for Celestia after she banished her sister to the moon for a thousand years. At the same time, that gives us two different sparks of magic.
We see Celestia and Luna battle Discord. So lets give each the element that is on their side. For Celestia that will be magic, generosity, and kindness. Luna appears to control laughter, loyalty, and honesty. The colors are not as bright as we see with the main six, but you can easily see what each element is.
We know that Sunset was taught in a similar manner like Twilight was taught when she was a pupil under Celestia. We also know that Celestia did not answer all of Twilight's questions directly as we see in the first episode. Instead of answering her questions and concerns directly, she gives her an assignment to make friends. Toward the end of the second episode we see Twilight's spark is that of friendship to unlock the element of magic.
Let's say Starlight Glimmer succeeds in stopping the rainboom and the six never meet and does not become friends. However, Sunset Shimmer goes through with her plan, even after the previous villains had been stopped in some manner. We can give the benefit that she already knew about the elements. So, when she is able to return Equestria, she has a plan on obtaining the element of magic along with the other five elements.
No one said that harmony could not be a negative harmony. We get to see them used for good, but that does not mean that if someone figured out how to get the other five elements, and generate their own spark of magic, that does not mean that they could be used for evil. Yes, Starswirl the bearded and the others planted the tree to help protect their kingdom. If something can be used for good, then it can be used for evil. One just need to know how.
Sunset already had Snips and Snails on her side. Although twisted as their schemes where, they did represent the other five elements. Keep in mind, they were not zombies, they took on their own evil forms after Sunset got the element of magic. They were kind, loyal, honest, and generous to Sunset. They also found delight (laughter) from others being hurt. As long as they embodied the other elements, she only needed her own spark to unlock the element of magic. Let's say her spark was ambition. Who is to say the element of magic would not have responded to such a strong magical force? If this was the case, she not only gets the elements on her own, but now she has the power to take over Equestria.
Without the qualities of a good ruler, her kingdom dies, literally. If not her whole kingdom, the isolated corners of the kingdom at least falls to the way side and become waist lands. Nothing can survive in those areas. Perhaps, because these are the areas that could have sheltered rebels against her and she destroyed the area herself leaving nothing behind.
My first guess was that all her "zoombies" would get turned into ponies after entering portal and thus were later easy defeted by ponies that actualy know hot to use hooves and magic... :3
315 likesReplies (9)
This or that way, it wouldn't have happened.
6 likesAgreed. Don't forget: in Mirror Magic when Sunset went back to Equestria, Twilight had to subtlety remind Sunset that she was a unicorn and had magic.
19 likes@eviljbrian And there's also the fact the mirror portal will most likely close quickly and she will be cut off from reinforcements and lots of issues.
4 likesAnd if she tried to force it back open, most likely it will tear dimensions up and such.
@Hannah Ringer Actually them being "zombies" would most likely hinder them there.
4 likesGiven how they look slow and such.
And most likely being under mindcontrol in this case hinders their performance compared to how Sombra mind controls creatures into fighting for him.
Very good point if she managed to obtain a weaker element
1 likeOr..they'd go through the portal and the equestrian ponies couldn't tell the difference between them. And are we forgetting the portal takes you to Thwilight's pony castle so they could ambush her unseen
1 like@Jaguaiser's World Actually the portal was still in the Crystal Empire during the movie.
0 likesAnd pretty sure they can tell the difference with the mind-controlled ponies moving like zombies and having blank glowing green eyes.
@eviljbrian You mean Starlight?
0 likes@Hannah Ringer They would be moving like zombies there.
0 likesIt looks like their performance is hindered pretty badly due to that they are like that.
I mean, look at them.
I had a theory about that 'darkest timeline', which ties in with another theory I had that there was an overall secret un-revealed villain banished to another dimension, operating from behind the scenes, manipulating everyone & collecting dark power from evil deeds so they could escape from their prison, at full strength (though this itself might have been a little too dark for G-4 MLP)... Now, what if that 'darkest timeline' is the aftermath of this long-forgotten unknown enemy actually succeeding in returning to Equestria..?
0 likesSunset would never have gotten Twilight's element of harmony in the first place if the rainboom never happened.
5 likesWell one way Sunset could continue her plan without the element of magic is using the alicorn amulet. Sunset is most likely a lot stronger in magic than Trixie so her having it would make her incredibly powerful. The problem being of course how would she find it, but then again how did she know in the first equestria girl movie that Twilight had the element of magic.
0 likesI have an idea for what caused the untold timeline, hear me out:
0 likesWe see more of a desert land, theirs no ponys and in the other timelines we see ponys almost right away, and in the other timelines there was still greenery(mostly) but maybe something happened with sunset and the crown that caused her to lose control and burn up the surface of the world, it would make sense because of the desert landscape and no ponys around, it would make sense because she now looks firer and stuff in her new pony form,thank you for reading, have a great day
Yeah this is a show about colorful horses but when Sawtooth said “Maybe we did see the Sunset timeline” it clicked in my head and I got chills..
165 likesReplies (3)
I watched to the end, and judged that the parasprites did the last ending.
7 likesAm reading Fallout: Equestria and the book came out before season three, but there are startling references to later seasons...
3 likesAlmost as if it were Canon...
@Kirk Lundberg Must be TRUE
2 likesI feel like the last ending is the timeline where Starlight had taken everyone's cutie mark, even sunbursts, and she used all of its magic to destroy Equestria but killing herself too while doing so.
0 likesWhat are your thoughts?
Theory 2
Maybe...its the timeline where Trixie destroyed all of Equestri with the help of The Alicorn Amulet
She over used her power to it's limits and it just destroys everything on Equestria
Whats do you (the reader) think?
It looks more like a land of darkness and death as well as destruction, and considering that there is actually only one villain (though more of a speculation) it could actually be Grogar's return. Although now that I think about it, most likely has to do with Dragons.
0 likesWell I believe discord could have easily beat sunset shimmer and she probably can't fight back because you need all 7 elements of harmony
3 likesI just read an amazing fanmade comic where after she brainwashes all of Canterlot High, Demon Sunset transforms them all into her personal demon army with a small fraction of her dark magic.
0 likesThat would’ve made it much more plausible for Demon Sunset to theoretically conquer Equestria, on top of wielding the Elements for herself.
I feel like the last timeline were all the villains. Let me explain, the first villain of the show was Nightmare moon and the second was Discord I believe. So Discord must have fought Nightmare moon for Equestria. Apply this to all the villains and it would be this series of wars. As expected these wars might have destroyed the land of Equestria and creating the barren waste land. An Sunset Shimmer wouldn't have turned evil because there would be no elements because Twilight wouldn't have been there to activate it. This is my theory
0 likesI think the wasteland timeline was supposed to show the combination of all the villains getting their way. So much evil spirits, magic, and disharmony would lead to a waste land where even Equestria's most powerful villains wouldn't survive.
0 likesForgetting the whole Starlight timelines thing, what do you think would have happened if Sunset had won some other way?
0 likesI know that some theories say the mystery timeline was Cozy Glow. But I think that can't be. The school of friendship wasn't built yet, where Cozy got her plan. Also, this was about seasons later. I don't know how far forward the makers thought. So, I think we should look at the 5 given seasons. So Nightmare Moon, Discord, Crysalis, Sombra, The everfree Forest, Tirek and Starlight.
0 likesWe saw all, except the everfree forest and Starlight. But from these two opition, I think Starlight makes more sense and is also deeper that Starlight stopped her plan and reformed, because she saw what her success would cause.
I think your explanation is pretty good. Also I have an even BIGGER question...what would have happened if starlight herself succeeded!?
0 likesOk hear me out, all these timelines acc exist because in the episode where the ponies cutie marks get switched around ( idk the name ) all the ponies r used to theyre mismatched cutie marks , that’s all they’ve known and maybe twilights spell didn’t switch the cutie marks , maybe she switched realities , mayb she was sent there by the spell to fix it idk mayb star swirl knew that that’s what this spell does but that wouldn’t match up with other episodes, where the ponies remember getting their rights cutie marks but mayb jus mayb that day sue said the spell , she switched realities and not the cutie marks of her friends
2 likesI love your videos so much, and I never find anything wrong with them. But I did find something to argue against this with..
0 likesIf Starlight had stopped the, Sonic Rainboom. Then the main six wouldn't have found their special talents at that time (or at all). And the main six would not come together. Thus, no Princess Twilight Sparkle. Thus no crown to be stolen. This would lead Sunset Shimmer to not be able to become overwhelmed by the magic from Twilight's crown. Since Twilight would have never found out that she was the sixth element, she would have never gotten the crown in the first place. So Sunset had no use of coming back for the crown... Because the crown didn't exist
Would figure it could have been Midnight Sparkle as Sunset would still be around, so there's some link to the portal and some way for her to continue studying into those energies. Add that in with the sirens and she might just get a lead that could bring her to a noticable level of magic(and if we want to go to something crazy, maybe the manipulation of time didn't affect the alternate world's time and messing with reality as much as she did had an effect on the potential future, hence the complete wasteland)
0 likesSawtooth is a cycle of forgetting he existed to binge watching all his videos. Jokes aside, I have a new theory. I think starswirl DID create discord. Remember in season 4, all the magic from the everfree forest was holding the seeds from taking over. We now know that starswirl had the magic to stop it, and used it because he created the tree of harmony. In season 9, we know that that was what was keeping it from growing wild. What if he used that for Discord? What if he WAS a mistake, but all that magic held back into this time?
303 likesReplies (9)
Maybe. Good idea but wouldn’t starswirl have made a point to destroy discord?
2 likes@pqacorn good point, but we don't know when starswirl created discord, it can be right before or when he was dealing with the pony of shadows. In the case, he would have to rush, so that the pony of shadows would never take over. He could of misread it, just casting it away, because he didnt think it would be important.
5 likes@sunnysidedown wow maybe you should make a channel on mlp theories
4 likesYou're digging out more questions than answers.
0 likes@sunnysidedown The everfree forest was holding back the seeds from growing? Did you even watch the episode? The tree of Harmonys magic was strong enough to stop the seeds from growing lmao not the everfree forest XD
0 likes@Moonlight Chocolate Also Starswirl himself didn’t create the tree of Harmony, He and the PILLARS did by planting a seed with there magic in it
1 like@NoobMaster69 yes, but he was the element of sorcery, like the elements, magic is the most important element, so it would be the same. Also, that would explain why discord got released faster. From a timeline perspective, discord only came a bit after the pillars were banished. If only starswirl casted discord away, it would be weaker.
1 likeDidn't discord say he's been around for eons? I can't remember, but I could have sworn he said that.
3 likes@ThePaintedPixel 15 Yea he said something like that but idk which episode
0 likesAll I could say is perhaps look very closely at the crystal map upon the 7th wasteland Apocalyptic timeline. The map gives us hints on locational changes through out each time loop! Maybe that might be a key!
0 likesSo here what I'm thinking.. if Celestia can turn into Daybreaker (aka her bad side) she could've burned Equestria into ashes like we saw. Nothing was left alive and everything looked like it had be destroyed by a powerful being the main 6 have never seen before. It could very well be possible that the main 6 never came to be and Celestia finally put up with Nightmare Moon returning while she battled her sister once again. Used dark magic on Nightmare Moon turning her to Daybreaker and they fought until Nightmare Moon went down and then she took over Equestria burning everything she saw and imprisoning Ponies to do her bidding. After her rein died Equestria did as well... but that's just a theory I put together.
1 likeSo let's say that up until the movies everything was the same, but the only reason sunset lost was because twilight reunited the human six, so if sunset somehow managed to stop that from happening she could've gotten the element of magic and destroyed the pony world
2 likesReplies (1)
1+8=9
0 likes100000
73hne7
100000
7 +2=
🍳🍳🍳🍳🍪🍪🍪🎂🎂🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍫🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🍔🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮🌮
I think the last timeline isn’t a timeline at all, just another part of equestria. Like starlights spell decided too troll her something.
2 likesWhy is it that hearing this theory makes me wonder what would if Human Twilight won in friendship games?
1 likeMy theory for the last alternate universe shown, where everything is dull and empty, is the reality if STARLIGHT would have won, and got everyones cutie marks and made them all equal. Think about it, starlight glimmer was the only other villian at the time to not have had a alternate reality if they would have succeeded. Therefore, that last one was most likey the outcome of Starlight Glimmer collecting all the cutie marks and making everyone equal, where everything becomes dull, everyone has the same talents, and due to the lack of proper food(since in the episode where we first meet starlight, even pinkie pie couldnt stand the muffins) and probably everyone had died, or a less gruesome outcome, all moved to the one town, which is far from where they are when they see that reality.
0 likesTheory over. 😁
I thought that last timeline with absolutely nothing was from parasprites. No food, not damage, all plant life gone. Due to no plants, no animals, ponys, or any creature. Maybe it just got to the point where only people who know how to deal with them where able to live in caves and bunkers. But without anywhere else, you can't lead them somewhere to leave you alone without attracting alot of them.
0 likesI don't think there would have been a magic school for Sunset to attebd to and end up being power hungry in any of the timelines. The nightmare moon one, Tia is in the moon. Sombra, busy with war. Changeling war, hardly any survivors.
0 likesI think that last timeline shown is with no one other than Daybreaker.
Well if the mane 6 never met, then twilight would never been a princess, and her crown wouldn't exist, therefore, she wouldn't be able to have the power to make her army. She would still be the bully she was before twilight came.
116 likesReplies (9)
EXACTLY
3 likesThat's. Literally what he said?
7 likesactually without the mane six, the elements would be stuck at those stone balls anyway
7 likesMaybe, in an alternate timeline, Celestia herself tried to help Sunset with the elements, but Sunset stole the element of magic and, well, everything was screwed up
12 likes@♚ — crescents ! sorry i didn't watched the whole video when i wrote that comment lol
2 likesThat’s what I said😁
1 like@Charro45 Doubt Celestia can do anything with the Elements due to losing her connection to them and them being stuck as stone balls.
2 likesBut there’s those gems thingys that still exist in the human world
1 likeBut wasnt Sunset originally a pony? Under Princess Celestia? I dont exactly remembered what happened to make Sunset leave, but wouldmt Sunset still be with Celestia, and if any timelines went wrong, thats how it effected Sunset?
2 likesWhat if the last timeline we see... is actually Daybreaker timeline? Because in Starlight's nightmare Daybreaker said, that they didn't need anyone. Or... anything?
2 likesI think the desolate time line is the one where tirek won. Tirek would have stripped all magic from equestria, including that of the alicorns. leaving earthponies no way to grow crops, pegasi no way to control weather, and unicorns no way to control day or night. the world of equestria..it would have been devoid of all life.
0 likesI feel like the alternate timeline where it is a barren wasteland is a clash of all the conflicts coming together. Trek, Nightmare Moon, Chrysalis, The Flim Flam Brothers, and even more threat and villains and resulted in the eventual barren wasteland which led to few survivors. Or it's possible a new entirely different villain rose because of the elements being gone and caused this timeline.
0 likesI had a theory myself... And its a doozy...
0 likesWhat if the final timeline was... Cozy Glow's timeline? I say that because she tried to take out magic entirely. And she would've succeeded. Without the CMC or The Student 6, the magic would've been erased entirely. So It wouldn't be long until the world started to crumble. Since ponies are so reliant on magical ability. Its safe to say... the world would've fallen.
Now the question is, how? Since the School of Friendship never wouldve opened.
If Sunset wasn't Defeated...
277 likesShe would take over the EG, take over equestria, find new worlds and take over them....
Edit: Damn I wrote this comment even before I saw the video XD
Replies (9)
Interesting point: The title actually has nothing to do with the video, so we need a different breaking point to think about this.
11 likesI doubt Sunset would be able to take over the EG world. While she was a unicorn in Equestria, in the Human World, she has no magic, nor magical abilities. She's just a regular girl, however she IS at least somewhat intelligent AND manipulative as she was able to break apart the friendships of the rest of the girls. The only magic she possessed was in the book that Celestia gave her, and that was only to write messages back and forth. (Edit) Don't forget, when she DID go back to Equestria in the Mirror Magic short, she had to get used to walking on all four again, AND had to be reminded she was a unicorn and had magic.
12 likesEven then, the portal between the worlds is only open for a short period of time. It only became open full-time because Twilight was able to harness and amplify the magic of the book on her side of the portal in order to keep it open.
Sound like the Flood from Halo
0 likesBasiaclly 😂
0 likes@spartanLink11 Or Half-Life's franchise main antagonists. The Combine.
2 likesShe would take over G5.
1 like@Rebecca Taylor So true
1 likeShe would be female Sombra.
1 like@Princess Firesun I can imagine that
0 likesI think I know who's timeline the last one is. It's starlight's! We saw the multiverses, but we didn't see what happened in OUR timeline. Starlight would have caused all the villains to succeed but they would have had to fight each other. Think about it, tirek would have came to a world most likely run by another villain, causing a fight. Where would that lead? Absolute destruction.
0 likes2:18 that’s why I loveee this timeline.
8 likesI think what might've happened was that maybe all the villains teamed up, destroying Equestria. while yes SOME villains were brought together in season 9, the Mane 6 were there to defeat them. Anyways, after destroying and taking over Equestria, they might have turned on each other, destroying anything else that might have resembled Equestria. Them turning on each other possibly resulted on them destroying the ponies, and each other. Also, before they might've destroyed each other, the villains probably took over the rest of the world, the dragon lands being the hardest to take over. After all of the destroying each other, we get the 7th timeline.
0 likesCould the final timeline be the Daybreaker/Dark Star timeline?
2 likesI think the reason that Sunset's victory wasn't shown was because Hasbro didn't want to bring Canterlot High into the main series plot :/
0 likesSometimes the simplest solution is the most correct one
Can you do a “ What was the 7th reality that starlight made?” Theory. I am curious!
1 likeI'm inclined to believe the barren timeline was the result of starlight herself. Since we didn't see anything maybe it was because the map showed what would have happened if starlight took over. When we saw her village the food was horrible and they had shabby clothes. If her influence stretched all over equestria everyone would have not been able to do what they were meant to do with their cutie marks and equestria would have fallen. However starlight would need to defeat the princesses. Since her magic is as strong as twilight's she could have easily found a spell to defeat or trap the Royal sisters. Then she would rule supreme until her plan fails due to the lack of order where special talents are needed to keep the whole of equestria in harmony.
0 likesNow we have proof that someone who was impacted by the rainboom released Nightmare Moon. In most of the timelines it appeared to be day, proving that Nightmare Moon is still not released from the moon. But now the only question is who? I think it may just be the Tree of Harmony which can read the future. The tree sprouted a chest that would be opened long afterward when Terik came. Maybe the tree also knew the way things would turn out if Nightmare Moon came out of the moon.
0 likesInteresting. I could see how her plan was dependent on the rainboom.
0 likesThere is the possibility that maybe Celestia could've found other bearers, but they wouldn't succeed as well as Twilight and the others because most situations they were in needed those specific ponies, no one else could do it. Celestia could've found ponies that worked well enough to become bearers, but not enough to solve everything. That could end up leading to Sunset getting the crown. But I don't really feel like that could fit with the wasteland timeline, more like one that they didn't get to because they fixed the problem. Another video I've found speculating on how each timeline came to be makes me really feel like that one happened because all of the major villains and Equestria fought in an all out war and the world lost. That just makes the most sense to me out of every explanation I've found.
0 likesI wanted to see a timeline where Starlight Glimmer succeded. When she stopped the bullys by convincing them AND Fluttershy that they could all be equal, they could've showed us what would've happened if everypony had the same cutie mark.
0 likesLook at what garble says in "the gauntlet of fire" when the other dragons were talking about their future when they became dragon lord. Garble says "when i am in charge, the first thing I will do is get my revenge on those puny ponies. They'll regret they ever came across Garble. We will take whatever we want from Equestria, and burn the rest." Then look at the final starlight timeline. Garble might have won and he unleashed his plan to send Equestria into dust.
1 likePS: please please please please please please please please please put this idea into one of your videos.
Sunset: what happens when an element of harmony enters another world?
153 likesTwilight: ????
Sunset: you don't know?! Seriously?!
Me: well to be fair, it seems to me like the writers don't even know! They never explain it properly!
Replies (3)
I always took it as a "Once the magic is brought into the world, it's like sand; never coming out completely again." It also seems to be sewing the two worlds together more in Pony Twi's absence, with the crystals inside the Everfree Forest, the memory stone thing, ponying up without Pony Twi, and the Hair Six suddenly getting those powers. How Sunset would know that is beyond me though.
15 likesShe didn't either know it herself
0 likesI think the thing happening is;
1 likeWithout the element of magic, when you put another element, if you are evil, you became a she demon but less powerful. If you just find the elements İn a random place without any purpose and put just for fun, nothing happens. And if you are a laugher person and you put the element of laugher, you pony up. Thats my theory.
I might agree with you except for one thing, without the mane six, there are no elements of harmony, and with no elements there is no element of magic, which means no crown, which means sunset would've had nothing to steal to make her a demon.
0 likesWhat if that timeline is if none of the villains were stoped there for when they went into combat they ended up destroying everything..
5 likesУ тебя красивые заколки в каждом видео✨
2 likesThis is a cool theory, but it would of never happened if the main 6 didnt meet because sunset shimmer used the element of magic to turn into a demon, and without the main 6 meeting in season 1, the elements would still be stone
1 like'When the 5 elements are there a spark will bring the 6th element" The spirits of the elements of harmony works toghetter with the chrystals but we saw in the same episode that you could create a spark between them it's just the sprits were there and need to be toghetter. If the sonic rainboom did'nt happen the spirits wouldnt be toghetter so it would only be the chrystals sunset shimmers could get the 5 make a spark like Twilight did and boom you got a 6th element of harmony. I think that timeline IS indeed Sunset Shimmers timeline. Maybe she even tried it before in the normal timeline but it did'nt work since the spirits of harmony were toghetter.
18 likesI think I have a theory for the barren wasteland timeline.
0 likesLook at what happened to rainbow in that timeline. She was zapped by starlight. She could have been injured on that hoof (no pun intended). This might've caused him to become hostile and paranoid after being hurt. She would've gone insane and switched sides during the war with King Sombra. With her help, Sombra recruited other villains to cause the world to become a 'dry hell'.
I have a question? What if Sunset didn’t go rough and went through the portal? Which would most likely mean that the events of the equestria girls series would never happen, but what about the other events? How would Twilight and starlight, as well as the other five, had been effected by Sunset staying? Would Discord have been released?
0 likesI think the 7th future was Cozy Glow. Think about it she wanted to use friendship for power. So she held the ones who wouldn’t be her friends (aka nearly every creature) is they were held captive until they would live with Cozy in Twilights castle. And with no pony around to care for the land or anything for that matter their world becomes a dry wasteland where Cozy relocated in case any rebels attempted to overthrow her.
0 likesI think the last time line is where the villas waged an all out war and destroyed everything because of it as a last attempt Celestia traps them in different ways sacrificing herself in the process due to the war the land was unusable and all creatures died
1 likeThe main reason Sunset wanted the elements was because she was jealous. She had no motive so it'd make sense that she wouldn't do anything, she'd probably still be Celestia's pupil
16 likesThere could’ve been no way for sunset shimmer to take over equestria, the elements of harmony were kept in the castle of the two sisters when Luna became nightmare moon, if twilight and her friends didn’t come together, the elements would still be kept in the castle or destroyed by nightmare moon.
1 likeYour right Sawtooth
2 likesShe wasn’t shown because twilights crown gave her the powers
So if twilight never have met the others then she wouldn’t be the princess of magic or go to the human world
Cause she would be a regular pony in canterlot so there would be no crown to steal
What if the wasteland timeline was Grogar's(if he was somehow freed) timeline, however, I can't imagine Groger's kingdom(or empire) looking like a wasteland. I am doubtful that the wasteland could've been caused by Cozyglow's(if she erased all the magic from Equestria) plan. But that's just what I think.
0 likesas believable as this is, I would like to add one small detail
0 likesso are you telling me that no students who ever went to that school ever, had accidentally fell onto the portal in the human world?? Like there has to be some sort of chance the students were fooling around, maybe playing tag or something and they didn't bump into the portal at all? or maybe just lean on it just the slightest bit?
I always thought that unidentified timeline were all of Equestria is destroyed was Garble’s doing. After all, he DID want to destroy Equestria if he became Dragon Ruler, which thanks to Spike, never happened. But since Spike was never born and the Mane Six never became friends, Garble got what he wanted. On the other hand, he wanted to do this out of revenge on the ponies after Twilight, Rainbow, and Rarity humiliated him. Who knows?
0 likesI never knew that Sunset have so powerful Magic. I thought it was okay to not defeat her until I watched this video.
0 likes1st theory- Do you remember in the last few episodes (ofc you do, they were great) what if grogar was actually real and still alive.
1 like2nd theory- all the villains teamed up when nightmare moon returned and attacked Equestria at the same time. destroying the elements but since they were all too greedy and couldn't share Equestria they fought until there was nothing left but a waste land
3rd theory- When nightmare moon was defeated they accidentally killed her and because of that Celestia became so caught up with grief she became daybreak never turning the sun off and literally burning Equestria to a crisp and since Twilight would have been new to the elements + scared to use it after seeing what it had done to Luna + Twilight would never harm her teacher she wouldn't be able to use it
I believe that villains teamed up like King Sombra, Cozy Glow, Tirek, and Queen Chrysalis did, but with more, if not all villains.
0 likesOkay but I just realized, what if not every timeline where the main six don't meet is necessarily terrible? What if there's a timeline that, on the surface, seems better? A timeline where sunset went to magic school with twilight's old Canterlot friends and those six became the elements of harmony? What if this left the original mane six scattered across this timeline as villains and antagonists? What if this left the new main six with the constant inexplicable feeling that something isn't right, like they were forgetting something important or that they weren't where they needed to be? This is way more fanfic territory than theory, but I just think it's a cool idea.
0 likesACTUALLY , IT IS IMPOSSIBL. SINCE SUNSET STOLE THE ELEMENT OF MAGIC, IN THE TIMELINES THERE WILL BE NO ELEMENTS SO WHY WOULD SHE RUTURN TO EQUESTRIA
3 likesIf there was some possibility of demon Sunset crossing over, what would she look like? Now, with that in mind- note Chrysalis. There is no human version of her that we've seen, implying that the human version could be in Equestria. What if Chrysalis was similar to Sunset, and she came across some equestrian magic allowing her to go into Equestria in an alicorn-similar form? Please please please look into this theory and make a video about it, because Chrysalis could be solved any day.
1 likeI think the bare wasteland is from the one where there was a dragon sleeping. Season 1 Episode 7. It would make sense since if smoke had covered Equestria it would have covered the sun causing all the plants to die. Since if the Mane 6 weren't there then the dragon might have covered equestria in smoke.
0 likesThe wasteland could have been if Grogar was somehow freed.
4 likesAlso remember you did a video on how Starlight should fix the alternate time lines? Well, what if she makes another time line by accident, she would go in that time line and then accidentally help sunset shimmer get the element of magic.
I think the final timeline is a reference to Fallout: Equestria, and it's all just wasteland, I think it might be, given that the MLP has multiple references to fan art based on the series.
1 likeI believe that the baren world is because of the bug thingys. You know, the ones that eat everything? It would make sense for them to eat everything, leaving only the half-trees and rocks that we see in the timeline.
0 likesThis could’ve happened if Celestia herself brought the mane six together
1 likeWhat gets me about that episode is if Starlight kept going back making it so the 6 weren't connected by the rainboom wouldn't that mean Twilight would never be a princess so how was she still a princess if Starlight had changed the past. Something doesn't really add up. Was Twilight protected from the time change because she was going back in time as well??
0 likesBefore I watch the video:
36 likes"We'd be doomed."
After watching the video:
"Demon Sunset would be doomed...?"
I know this video was 9 months ago but I'm pretty sure that the last possibility (the one when Twilight showed Starlight the future she made) was the result of windigows. Not having Twilight to spread friendship, the windigows would come back :/ but that's just a theory, a game theor-
0 likesOk so I thought of this one earlier, if Sunset Shimmer was a pony before wouldn’t there mean there was already a human Sunset? Kinda like how Twilight was already a human that didn’t go to Canterlot High if we applied this logic to Sunset Shimmer’s arrival in the human world, then it is absolutely possible that there was already a human Sunset that no one knew about, I think it would be awesome if they eventually introduced this logic
0 likesHere's my theory of how sunset shimmer will be able to succeed.
0 likesAs sunset raged and left to the human world, she knew what the elements could do. So she snuck into the human world and stole the elements (How? Of course she knows that where the mirror and guards are; she at least once should've seen it)and she got them from the castle since there was no mane 6 to stop her) she got the elements used it and became into demon sunset. Fast forward; she made zombie teens sent them; got in herself and destroyed the world as her motive was.. to be powerful and rule over equestria
I have an idea of what the last timeline could, what if Celestia became Daybreaker and went on a rampage, she could have turned into her with the grief of not being able to save Luna from Nightmare Moon
0 likesThis would be a like bad ending
238 likesReplies (3)
Duh 😒
1 likefhahfsdfgjtscc i fsha
0 likesOmg...GLITTER FORCE?
0 likesI think the final timeline was actually (human) Solar Shimmer's timeline. She would have successfully made it through the portal and terrorized the entirety of Equestria into fleeing. She'd destroy everything in her path until it became a desolate wasteland. With her gained power, she'd defeat the Mane 6, the other princesses, and conquer Equestria. How, may you ask, could this happen? Short answer: Starlight Glimmer and the 8th timeline. Yes, Sunset/Solar Shimmer's timeline. Starlight would create one final timeline, and create a warp in time and space... (oh no here comes another link) just like Midnight Sparkle. If Midnight, Solar, and Starlight were all linked through timelines, we can see where this comes together. Solar Shimmer would still be thriving off Equestria's magic until she discovered the warp. That is where they all become linked.
0 likessunset is one of best unicorns of equestria. i think she founded spell to broke shield of elements and take it
2 likesThe Wasteland Timeline is when I was successful in my plans. After thousands of eons of moving my pieces into position, my endgame came to fruition and the Final Oblivion Crisis was complete! The Wasteland is the first stage of transforming the Mortal Realm into a Daedric Paradise, where all Mortalkind will be slaves to the Daedra! Though, not for work, but for sport. See, we Daedra don't take liking to putting Mortals through hard working labor. We enjoy their suffering and torment, and they're pain and agony!
0 likesIt is possible the desolation timeline is the result of every timeline a major villian took over happening in sequence, as a result of the fighting between the powerhouse villians Equestria was effectively reduced to ash.
0 likesNo main six= No elements of harmony= No sunset shimmer stealing twilights 👑
0 likesWhat if sunset went through the portal.... Let's say the human 5 followed her through at that time they were still angry with each other because of sunsets lies. Sunset and the mane five find the prophecy of the elements and sunset wants to use them to gain more power. Just like the original timeline NMM tries to stop them but they still show their individual talents and on this journey their friendship is restored and Sunset gets reformed.... They defeat NMM and are the ones who represent the elements of harmony...... Now they all need to stay in Equestria to protect it but the human 5 cannot stay..............
1 likeFeel free to continue the story or say your ideas in the replies 😀
sunset wouldnt have been able to use the magic in the element of magic because the main reason starlight went back in time was so twilight and the others never met so there wouldn't have been any element of magic but if twilight never got her cutie mark maybe sunset might have still been able to be celestias student because in season 1 they were talking to the cutie mark crusaders about how they got there cutie marks and twilight only became celestias pupil when she got her cutie mark
0 likesYou also forgot about Storm King. He could have gotten another plan of getting the rule of the Equestria.
0 likesI can imagine Sunset being like Queen Scarlet from Wings of Fire. Having ponies fight each other for entertainment. Queen Sunset Shimmer.
0 likesUnless the elements would have called a different mane 6. you forget the element is self aware, it does plan. It may simply be that it called Derpy and her friends instead. Then they stopped discord etc and everything but Princess Derpy couldn't get the Crown back and thus... Sunset timeline.
0 likesi think that the 'wasteland' timeline would have been caused because all the villains attacked each other to conquer equestria. but it caused nothing but destruction of all of the them
0 likesI think the last timeline could be where day breaker would have happened Which would explain why it’s all empty and destroyed. Fire is pretty powerful
0 likesWhat if sunset got bored of the magic in equestria, and then destroyed the rest of equestria and travelled back to her own world, well the human world. She then destroyed the portal so nobody could travel back. Nobody remained as they where either turned into her personal zombies and travelled to the human world with her or... well died without the resources they needed to survive.
0 likesYou should make a theory on what caused the last timeline
1 likeWhat if the mystery timeline Starlight created was the result of the dragons?
0 likesRemember how princess Ember became the Dragon Lord? It was possible because of Spike’s help. If Spike wasn’t there to help her some other dragon would have become Dragon Lord. I think it’s most likely that the brother of the dragon studying in Twilight’s school (I don’t exactly remember his name, maybe it is Garble) would have bin the Dragon Lord. He was fighting Spike and Ember for the staff. And if they weren’t there, he would have got it and became Dragon Lord. He wanted to destroy the ponies. So that’s what he would do. As Dragon Lord he would have commanded all the Dragons to destroy Equestria. All of them used their fire breath and burned everything to the ground. And as a result, Equestria became a waste land. That is what I think happened in the last timeline Starlight created. I hope you all enjoyed my theory.
I had the same thoughts as u, the desolate waste land would probably have been sunset, but then u brought up that the elements would still be in their rocky boulder form.
0 likesI hope everyone is safe and healthy
80 likesHave a nice day☁️✨
Replies (1)
Thank you! You too
2 likesHere is what I think happened, and how the wasteland timeline came to be.
0 likesThe gauntlet of fire.
It happened in the dragon lands and would have happened with or without the sonic rainboom, except spike wouldn't have hatched without the rainboom and thus could never win the gauntlet. Garbble would have won and would have become the new dragon lord, after that he would lead an attack on equestria and no one would try to stop him. Ponies wouldn't be able to do much against the dragon army and would surrender. The dragons would probably burn everything just for fun and that,s how equestria would become a wasteland. That,s my opinion.
My theory: it was her own future: the Starlight Future. Face it. Starlight is more powerful than Twilight. Maybe even the other Princess'. She would have easily wiped out Nightmare Moon. With her gonna by death, Celestia would never return. A war would wage in which she would kill all who stood up agains her. Seeing this, the creatures of Equestria, now banded together against a common enemy, would turn to Dr. Hooves who would build a atomic bomb. They would force her into a battle and drop the bomb on top of her. But it wouldn't go as plan. Not only would it kill her, but all life on the planet.
0 likesThis is infuriating.
0 likesI can't believe you completely ignored daybreaker. The last timeline was caused by daybreaker.
sunset is strong in her which form but daybreaker is the of destruction of a sun, an alicorn to begin with.
my biggest disappointment in the fandom is that everybody ignores daybreaker.
Stop it.
I think in that timeline cozy glow took the magic out of equestria and since the land depends on magic it stopped growing plants and crops so it killed everything
0 likesI think that the barren wasteland was the result of many villains…..here!s how it goes
0 likesVillain after villain would come seeking to control equestria. Soon all of them would find they weren’t the only ones(bear w/ me here I’m not too much on the timeline path)Sombra,Discord,Tirek,Chrysalis etc. They would see there were others
Cue dramatic moment of truth. Cue epic villain battle.
And because of the fight equestria would be gone
2:41 then.. what was that mysterious and freighting timeline? what would have caused that if not sunset? maybe cozy glows actions to getting rid of magic? or maybe if tirek, cozy glow, and chrysalis won? i for one would love to find out.
1 likeReplies (2)
Thats from Season 9😆
0 likesthey woudn't come together without discord altho we saw a discord timeline discord only did it because twilight didn't think she was good enough, In a short way i think, No Rainboom, No Mane 6, No Princess Twilight, No Princess Retirement sooo the Princesses Couldn't Retire
0 likesI think that's the last time line is the world where Starlight was able to remove cutie marks. Now we all know that once your camera was removed your colors became a bit more dull. And maybe the dust is actually Pony ash. I'm so sorry
0 likesThe crown sunset used was twilights crown made out of the element of harmony which was unlocked when twilight and the others came together so without the main six the elements wouldn’t be unlocked so sunset wouldn’t be able to take over in the same way
0 likesMade this before finishing the video
What if nightmare moon was still trapped in the moon?
13 likesIdea for the next video perhaps
Replies (1)
I was thinking about that actually
8 likesI think that the last timeline was a result of every single villian combined they basically destroyed equestria. And then they just killed each other.
0 likes2:26 I think she only made 6. And that the flim flam brothers one was shown twice. Take a look at their timeline. Its a polluted currently being destoryed mess. And maybe flim and flam drained the planet to a point where the "7th" timeline was and they abandoned the place along with any other rich or powerful ponys. And over the years time reclaimed the barrien wasteland
0 likesI don’t think the human world was effected by the time travel, so I don’t believe any time travel scenarios in equestria could effect the outcome of Sunset’s plan.
0 likesIn my theory, the wasteland timeline is depicted in a fanfic book called fallout of equestria.
0 likesI agree with you definetly, but mostly because this revenge was caused because she wanted to show celestia she was a great student and could persue the queen title. In an interview with Hasbro, we were asked about sunset shinmers timeline after the everyone had grown up, and it was definetly believed she would have come back because there is 2 of every person in the realm, like one twilight in the pony world and one in the human world.
4 likesReplies (1)
Yeah, and this make me think where is human sunset and starlight? What happened to them?
1 likeHonestly the reason there is no sunset shimmer in the timelines is because EG is never mentioned in the show and Hasbro wanted to keep it that way. It honestly sucks.
0 likesWell, it would have been impossible for sunset shimmer to become a she-demon because she became a demon because of twilight's element. If twilight wasn't there to defeat Nightmare Moon then tho elements wouldn't transform and Sunset wouldn't have got the element because she didn't make the spark thus Sunset shimmer would still have been a mean and insensitive bully in the human world
1 likeJust saying that I have no hate for Sawtooth's theory
The barren wasteland was the timeline from when Starlight Glimmer succeeded
0 likeswhat if it was daybreaker (celestias ego which is like luna with nightmare moon) if when nightmare moon was in charge it was a lasting night. what if celestia was ever really able to become day breaker it would end to everlasting scorching sun which we see the destruction it causes.
2 likesAs much as i love your theory on the subject Sawtooth i think the answer would be simple, if Sunset Shimmer was never defeated then she would've never changed her ways and sought out to travel down the path of friendship.
14 likesReplies (2)
but would she have been able to take over equestria like she wanted?
6 likes@Sawtooth Waves Probably not, because it's like Twilight said Sunset may have possessed the crown and all it's power but she couldn't wield it because Twilight's element was only meant to be used for good, and the reason why Sunset wasn't affected by all the time traveling that Starlight and Twilight were doing was because Sunset was in the EQG world at the time there's a major difference between alternate timelines and alternate dimensions.
5 likesWell if the srb never happened then would twilight still become the princess of magic? We see twilight and her friends never became friends or at least didn’t meet twilight so can the princess of friendship become a princess of friendship? No. So there would never be a crown for sunset to take.
1 likeLiterally just finished writing this and he just said it in the video proving my entire point so now I feel stupid 😑
Moreover, Starlight's timelines happened before Sunset stole Twilight's crown. As we saw, all timelines had one villain from the past that main six had won. So, Sunset couldn't even stole Twilight's crown let alone go to Equestria.
0 likesBut the main 6 created the spark so she may not have had the element of magic
0 likesReplies (1)
I didn't finish the video
0 likesWhat if sunset would have had her own friend group of 6 and they would have become the owners of the elements of harmony, but after Sunset became the princess of friendship just like Twilight originally became but saw the perfect chance to rule whole Equestria and used the elements of harmony to become more powerful, just like Chrysalis wanted to when she created the mean 6. Even tho she failed, why? Because the elements can sense evilness?
1 likeI don't know if anyone else has said this, but I think that other timeline would've been Tirek, Cozy Glow, and Chrysalis' future. I don't have enough proof but that's just what I think.
0 likesWithout the Mane 6 the element of magic would’ve never appeared meaning that by the Season 8 all the villains would be roaming free, so lets return to that first thing i said, Without the element of magic sunset shimmer would’ve never been able to take it therefore meaning sunset shimmer would never be evil/reformed
0 likesHow about this. What if Sunset did go back to the Nightmare Moon AU and became her new apprentice.
2 likesI know this may sound crazy but I think that the last timeline is the 5th generation.
1 likeI know that everything ended fine in the 5th generation but what if without magic everything fell into chaos and it up with the last timeline
Sawtooth: why no sunset timeline
132 likesThis video: long answer
Short avswer: not enough time in the episodes i guess
Replies (4)
Short answer, no friendship=no princess twilight=no crown
5 likesGirl say something in centesis😡
0 likes@🍪Iwuvkookies🍪 ?
0 likes@🍪Iwuvkookies🍪 *sentences
0 likesI think that if the main 6 were not there, Sunset would not get the crown. I think that the last timeline could just be starlights future. I really like your video.
1 likeIdea for the last timeline
0 likes-The “forgotten” world
-Daybreaker World
-All villains world
Starlight stopped the Mane 6 from meeting and Twilight can't get a Crown without meeting her friends which means Sunset Shimmer get nothing to steal. Since she gets nothing to steal, she can't become a Demon like she did because she became a demon by stealing and then wearing the Crown. This explains why there was no timeline of Sunset Shimmer ruling the world.
0 likesMaybe the spark isn't necessarily friendship.
0 likesMaybe it's just a major realization or desperation or maybe even hope.
But just a spark of it.
Honestly I think the barren wasteland is is Celestia's timeline. Everything is scorched earth and dust. If Celestia's was evil and decided to never let the sun go down everything would burn up and die. There would be nothing left except heat and sand.
56 likes*edit a word
Replies (10)
OoOh good theory
1 likeYou stole my idea!
0 likesso the Daybreaker timeline basically
6 likesNo, Parasprites!
1 likeAnother theory i saw on a video once was a war between sombra and celestia, tirek and chrysalis were recruited, then the war ravaged equestria
1 like@Oc3lot Gaming yay a all out war, with the villains vs discord
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg yeah actually, that is if discards spell broke from the two sisters not being connected to the elements...
0 likes@Hannah Ringer I guess it's cause it isn't described by your cutie.😢
0 likesOooo that’s good
0 likes@Hannah Ringer but sawtooth's change was before the rainboom.
0 likesMy theory is that if Sunset wasn't defeated , Celestia and Luna would still be in control of the elements of harmony and Sunset takes over Equestria
1 likeIf the main 6 never met, then the element of magic would have been hidden still so that can't be right.
0 likesin a no rain boom timeline Sunset would have been the element of magic and gotten her own friends leaving Twulught to become the runaway student. so we get mean girl Twilight.
0 likesso technically Sunset would win,she just wouldn't be the villain in the first place.
as for who her alt 5 would be I have no idea asifr from Bigmac standing in for AJ
Your theory is completely right about why sunset wouldn't have taken over the world of equestria
0 likes1:18 And she might also be able to mind control the Royal Guards
34 likesReplies (2)
Your so right about that
2 likesVery true.Very.
1 likeThe thing is though, if the mane 6 never come together then Sunset would never have been able to get the element of magic in the first place.
0 likesMaybe that timeline would be when Cozy Glow succeded!
1 likeThe barren timeline might have been the real grogar
2 likesSo if Sunset wasn't defeted with the element of magic in the normal timeline, the mane 6 would basically do the same thing in equestria
0 likesThis is really insightful :D
11 likesI think that if twilight didn't get onto magic school then she wouldn't have become a process and the whole show as we know it would be different. If she wasn't a princess she wouldn't have been in the summit and wouldn't have her crown so sunset couldn't have taken it.
0 likesDid you forget she was using Twighlight's element? Without the element she wouldnt have done that so thats why
0 likesThat wasteland was caused if starlight won and all ponies gave up cutie marks.
2 likesMaybe in that barren scene, the world is really fine, it just happens someone opened a desert theme park there. Totally kidding. I actually think that resulted from a free-for-all all villains fighting each other mega battle blitz-type deal
0 likesLet's just say sunset got the other elements if she just found out about evil magic when she got them.. could a evil element of magic appear?
1 likeI mean sunset is a unicorn and we saw Celestia banish nightmare moon using the elements, including the element of magic, and sunset was Celestias puple before twi, so what if sunset discovered how to become an alicorn after more time and is as strong as Celestia, but if not. What if you don't have to be strong to use them if you already know where the element of magic is, and with the crown making sunset even stronger it could totally be possible it was catastrophic leaving sunset alone, the pony of shadows reached out to both stig and luna when they were lonely and or neglected, but she was already Demon sunset soooo where did the pony of shadows come from, the element of magic maybe? I would like someone to make a video on this or reply pls
1 likeThis is my theory where sunset could have succeed when sunset was stealing the crown she wouldnt have put any alarms to wake up twilight which means sunsets plans go well and until its too late sunset has already tooken over even if it wasnt too late how would they defeat her?
0 likesWhat if changing time really doesn’t apply as this would mean getting a whole dimension involved. Adding on, this only happened AFTER RainbowDash’s sonic rain boom, so demon SunsetShimmer’s plan working timeline couldn’t have been seen as this only happened after the rain boom, the timeline of demon SunsetShimmer taking over Equestria could have happened if the sonic rain boom happened, but the realisation of Twilight’s missing magical crown didn’t
0 likesI’m still worried about that unknown timeline
50 likesReplies (6)
Same here
3 likes@Harmony Waves Hii!
2 likesAren't us all?
1 likeI just rewatched the episode and I’m trying to find easter eggs or hidden things in there
1 like@PaperFace how tf do you know
0 likesIt is the parasprites!!!!
0 likesYou have a point but what if she puts the elements on harmony on the main 6 and hipnotis them to esquetria
1 likeThat wasteland could have been if all of the villains attacked at the same time...then because of it a rain boom couldve happened which destroyed the land. (Ok rainboom is a bit far fetched but that's a theory)
0 likesI’m so used to Sunset being good and part of the Mane 7 it’s weird hearing about her as a villain
0 likesi love Sawtooth's tone when he said his usual alicorn's XD
1 likeThat barren wasteland looks like the cause of Thanos-
36 likesReplies (1)
Thanos: I am inevitable
0 likesTheory: Maybe the empty future was trixie's future with the alicorn amulet but that would make no sense cuz if it was it would defiantly show trixie in it
0 likesBest theorys THAT WORK. (Plus explanations) storm king, parasprites and starlight glimmer
1 likeCozy glow, sunset demon, and midnight sparkle, don't work because they rely on the mane six.
Edit: fallout could work as well
Maybe it wasnt just one/ a new villan ? It could have been the end of a war ? without the main 6 theres no stopping other villans from escaping and yes we did see a timeline like this but it might not have been a new timeline it might have been the end of one ?
1 like(hope this makes sense i havent watched this ep in a while 😅)
I think the last time line was the pony of shadows... I just have his speach saying that he'll absorb the light from the relm... that alternate had the sky and ground black, the only light was that faded orange-brown in the backgroung.
0 likesYour right about the elements of harmony still being in their original form but doesn’t princess celestia’s crown have just as much power as twighlight’s? What’s stopping her from taking that one other than like hundreds of guards
0 likesFrankly without the main 6 I don’t think Sunset being an issue would be possible, the element of magic had to be at the right place and the right time for sunset to get to it and that’s why sunset had it and could be demon sunset, without Twilight there with it she couldn’t have gotten her hands or hooves on it and become demon sunset, but your point about the equestrian military really shows how stupid and prone to failing Sunset’s plan was, and depending on who else had ruled the place before sunset(which Villain took over the world before the equestria girls stuff) the equestrian military wouldn’t even be her biggest issue if she had somehow gotten her hooves on the element of magic or another element, we have no idea how a Villain would have reacted to Sunset’s invasion and what countermeasures would be in place to deal with any threats, for instance somehow I can’t imagine Sunset standing a chance against Discord. And now that I think of it Sunset might not have even had the chance to get to the mirror depending on how long it took for the Villains to really affect equestria
0 likesfirst of all, if twilight would'nt have met her friends, learned about friendship, she would'nt possibly have gained the element anyway....she also would not become a princess, have a cornation in crystal empire and had'nt gone there.....so..Sunset would not come to take her crown and wear it and.....whatever
0 likesI think it just did not happen
I think the reason we didn’t see a Sunset Shimmer timeline was because the crown would never have been in the crystal empire if Twilight wasn’t a princess and Sunset would not have known about the crown so she wouldn’t have come to steal it. I think the last timeline might be one where all of the villains came and tried to fight for a Equestria, destroying it in the process.
0 likesI really wanna know what happened between Sawtooth and Yoshidarklord for him to always be so disappointed when he says their username XD
12 likesReplies (1)
Sawtooth say something
0 likesYou mention that for sunset to have powers from the elements twilight would had to have found them and be giving the spark, but what about the elements that are already in the human world? In legend of camp everfree where the 6 get the elements back from gloriosa? Mabye sunset finds them and knows what they are
0 likesWell there ae a ton of other villains which could've caused that timeline if it weren't sunset shimmer. The Storm King? Or perhaps Cozy Glow...she was so close to sucking up all the magic from Equestria, and considering how evil she is, she could've caused the whole entire of Equestria to be unprotected and become a wasteland had she soaked up all the magic. Without the mane 6 to stop her, she could be a raging tyrant.
0 likescan we just appreciate demon sunset shimmers design omgg
0 likesI agree with the whole sunset wouldn't have been able to succeed due to twilight not finding out about theagic of friendship
0 likesKeep in mind that starlight didn’t meet sunset until after the sunset demon event
0 likesWell yeah, a whole school of teenagers wouldn’t stand to the army in the pony world. Because when you think about it, they are just teenagers right? And also aren’t there going to be more of that pony army? Or would the number be same for both the high school teenagers and the guards. That’s the hint I’m thinking about because basically you wouldn’t really need to think about it but it’s going to be the guards that are stronger cuz the teens are not trained because you know they are teens😑
1 likeIf the rainboom never happened, then the Elements fo Harmony would remain hidden in the Everfree Forest and Sunster HSimmer would have never gotten the crown or known that they were real.
0 likesI think the barren wasteland timeline did have something to do with the humans. I think a human may or may not have accidentally found it and as humans do with first encounters, decided to get rid of the native inhabitants. My guess is nuclear warfare, which is why we didn't see the mirror anywhere. We've already been shown magical explosions. Like when they defeated Chrysalis in season whatwasit3? Or when Rainbow wrecked the barn at Apple's request. Or several things with structures in the clouds. It wouldn't be far fetched to say that the US military did that to Equestria.
0 likesI think the barren wasteland timeline was Starlight's.
37 likesHere's why: Past Starlight was still around, along with Future Starlight. Past Starlight would lose her friend when he got his cutie mark, and go on to found her village. Without the Mane Six interfering, there wouldn't be anypony to stop her, and eventually, maybe even through all the villains (and her innate ability to magically alter destiny), her cult would grow. Maybe Future Starlight would even help her younger version. And not in the good way.
Eventually, her cult would grow so big that the ponies of Equestria would become unable to grow food, due to all of the farm ponies giving up their cutie marks, and the land would become barren and hostile.
Also, look at how Starlight and Twilight's colors desaturate when they get to that timeline. It's the same thing that happened to the ponies in Starlight's village before they regained their cutie marks.
Plus, it's just too ironic.
Replies (12)
Yes, your theory is posiblle and i like it.
3 likesI don't think she would be able to stop any of the bad guys though, even with her magic.
3 likesEspecially with how apparently only heroes than can fire rainbows at baddies are allowed to beat anyone.(TWABA being an exception but I don't think it will work here).
@nicola audyová Thanks. I've been saying it since that episode came out, and noone ever listened, so your comment makes me really happy.
2 likesI think the doomsday scenario was caused by the parasprites, they eat everything and they multiply plus pinky doesn't have laughter or anything to fight them. Sorry but the way you described it, it sounded like it happened gradually, in time for her to stop.
1 like@Kirk Lundberg Interesting suggestion, but remember, the parasprites typically only eat food. They only ate everything else because they were magically enchanted by Twilight, which we know didn’t happen in any of the timelines because she did not move to Ponyville. Pinkie Pie likely wouldn’t have lead them out of town with her music in this timeline either. At worst, the parasprites would have caused a famine - nowhere near the destruction we saw in the doomsday timeline.
1 like@mistymoonbow but the parasites would eat all the food and everything would die of starvation, and no one would be around to tend to things.
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg true
0 likesYessss 🤯🤯🤯
0 likes@Hannah Ringer who do you address?
0 likes@Hannah Ringer ok
0 likesOoooo that’s like really really good!!!!
0 likesTo be honest i think its the parasprites
0 likesThe reason why there was no Sunset Shimmer "what would've happen if the villain wasn't defeated" is because Sunset Shimmer transformed in the human world. But, the "what would've happen if the villain wasn't defeated" thing happened in the pony world.
0 likesWhat if the ashlands universe goes even further into another alternate timeline entirely? No Mane Six, Luna dreamwalks before she becomes envious of her sister; Celestia wants the emotional connections her sister has... she returns a millennium later... she succeeds in her quest to bring eternal day... the whole world suffers. Like, some sort of premature global warming effect..?
0 likesWhat if sunset shimmer was the main character, i do like twilight, but their was something about sunset shimmer personality i liked better. Of course equestria girls is what made sunset so interesting though in first placed, being a redeemed villian who had to struggle to make up for what she did. Kind wish the equestria girls had its own tv series rather than movie events. But will take what we can get.
0 likesI think if she won and crossed over to Equestria, it would be a death sentence or at least certain defeat, an army of righteous children against an army of Kingdom soldiers, she would lead those children to death, just like Erwin. Without Levi, without a plan and a chance to win, she would be the only problem, but in the end, she was not powerful enough to challenge the forces of Equestria.
0 likeshasboro like: OMG reavealing all my secrects for MLP
142 likesTimelines to need to know why we didn't see
0 likes1: midnight Sparkle
2: Jupiter Montage
3: Gloryorsa daisy
4: The dazzlings
5: the pony of shadows
or maybe it was a timeline when daybreaker happened! daybreaker's rain could have been that bad that it could have make a timeline so dark, empty, broken, mysterious, and sad to the point it was freighting!
1 likeReplies (1)
There is so many possibilities
0 likesthe last timeline is probably starlight glimmers because if the main 6 weren't there to defeat her when she took over the village, she could probably take everyone's cutie marks and then Celestia and Luna would not have the power to raise the sun and moon because that's their cutie mark so it would just be a barren wasteland.
0 likesI think that the last one was Cozy Glow succeeding in Removing all of the magic from equesteria
0 likesI felt that sunset could have asked how Celestia got the elements when she banished nightmare moon to the moon. That way she could have found a different way to get the elements since celestia didn't have friends with her when she banished nightmare moon. Once she found out how to get the elements without friends, she could bring the elements and take over or destroy equastria. ALL HAIL QUEEN SUNSET, THE DESTROYER OF EQUESTRIA!!
3 likesReplies (1)
Ohhhhhhhhhhh it's a possibility that could have been
0 likesMy theory is that the last timeline was where all villians were toghether, since they wanted different things, they made a war that ended up equestria; idk just a theory xD
1 likeDoes anybody remember the Galaxy thingy that Luna cursed herself with? (I forget what it’s called-)
0 likesSeriously, why has nobody thought that maybe that timeline is if they didn’t defeat it?
i love how you think so much just for us tto know what happiness and i like to thank you for that also i subscribed
1 likePossibly. But Maybe another different group of ponies obtained the elements. They may not have been powerful enough to stop her. Thats my theory. 😉
1 likeSawtooth Waves,if you want my opinion on the wasteland timeline that Starlight created, I think it was the Storm King. Think about it, with all that magic in his staff, he would have created a huge storm and destroyed everything. Yes I think it really was the Storm king so please make a video about that it would great.🌩👑🪄
5 likesif the mane 6 didn't come together sunset shimmer couldn't wear the crown cause the stones turned into necklaces and a crown after the mane 6 first used the elements if starlight prevented the present the stones wouldn't never turned into those and i bet they still would've stayed shattered if nightmare moon wasn't stopped
0 likesMaybe the last multiverse was actally Starlight's? If she will take away all cutie marks and there will be no one to control the weather, no one to make food.
1 likeIn time ponies will die and there will be nothing, but darkness
I haven't watched the whole video yet but if the main 6 never got together there would be no elements of harmony because they wouldn't have unlocked the magical element
0 likesTechnically it was made off of friendship so without it sunset would be useless for the villains motives
0 likesWhen I saw the final timeline I thought it was from all of the former villains fighting and destruction combined
0 likesIf anyone is wondering why we didn’t see the demon twilight from the human world in a timeline that Starlight created it’s because without the pony main six coming together they wouldn’t have discovered the element of magic so the human world wouldn’t have any magic meaning the human world version of the main six wouldn’t have any magic that human twilight could drain from them meaning she wouldn’t have the magic to transform her into demon twilight.
0 likesThe last timeline was the sumset timeline cause it looks like everything was burned to ash because demon sunset is powerful i have a reason to beleve that demon sunset burned equestria so let me know your thoughts to this theory
0 likesYou know how the magic element worked on its own in the human world? maybe the others could do something
0 likesI love that accessory on his head, looks so cute ^^
10 likesI honestly never even noticed that they didn’t show a sunset timeline, this like really mind blowing for me right now XD
Replies (1)
I knew that
0 likesWe didn't see a Sunset timeline because EQG isn't canon to FIM. Remember how the sirens made a cameo in season 7? Remember how upset all the EQG haters were about that?
0 likesTwilight wouldnt have had the crown, sunset wouldnt have stole it from celestia cause it was locked with a spell only celestia knew, sunset would have to go very far to get from the mirror to the elements, she would have been spotted by celestias guards and if it was night then lunas guards there would not even be a chance for sunset to get to the elements before being spotted... If you read to the end thanks if you have any thing to add pls comment and tell me if you liked my theory
0 likeswhen you made that video on sunset's brother sunburst went through the portal , what if he told her about how they were formed and sunset went back to equestria , tried the same and maybe succeeded ?
0 likesHere’s one thing I don’t understand. How does Sunset Shimmer know about Twilight’s Crown after all these years in the human world without seeing things from Equestria?
0 likesReplies (1)
HMMMM (watch my video called Flash Sentry's Secret) 👀
0 likesI think the mystery timeline was the result of all of the villains
1 likethe last timeline could have caused the sunset shimmer timeline becouse maybe before having all elements if she got power by the five she could have power for the sixth or the five could form the sixth element of harmony as even starlight didnt know about the human word it was a spell and a spell could know anthing and she could zombie the school with the five girls to be more powerful even they hated eachother and she could have the power to rule equestria and years passed she turned equestria in to zombies and then ruled equestria and draining the magic of everybody with her power she could be an alicorn not an alicorn the only alicorn in all equestria and years passed equestria would be dark and gray and it was the fate of sunset shimmmer and then the zombie ponies dissapeared and then equestria would have been dark and gray and there would not be any magic in both worlds and nobody in both words.
1 likeWell I dont think that would even be a possibleity because in starlight's alterive timeline they have never became friends aka the 6th element never appeared without the spark so there would be nothing for sunset to steal without actually creating the spark herself
0 likesSunset's Real Motive was that she couldn't pass Magic school. I watched this after watching that Episode/movie.
0 likesHonestly, people/bronies want to deny Sunset her victory by saying an Army would be on standby, but is that really the case? Sunset walks through the portal and sees hundreds of Crystal Empire Guards, weapons ready, waiting for her arrival as if she announced it days in advance? I don’t think so.
0 likesRemember, the portal was open for THREE DAYS AND NIGHTS, and it’s not like everypony is going to be standing guard at the portal for 72 hours straight because there are no other threats, hazards, etc that need to be dealt with, right? At most, there would be a couple of guards and maybe the rest of the Elements at best. Sunset would sneak in, put the guards and/or the other Elements on the back foot because they wouldn’t want to harm the mind controlled humans/ponies, and thus be overwhelmed before reinforcements came. Maybe even getting them under control as well. Sunset continues this until she faces Shining Armor, Cadence, Luna, and/or Celestia. Using their caring nature against them, Sunset would be able to overpower them by using their compassion against them. Sunset could easily grow her army and take down the rest of Equestria by force by that point, and it all started with taking The Crystal Empire by surprise because it’s not logical for The Crystal Empire’s defenses to be well prepared against a threat and enemy they don’t know is coming.
It obvs! Sunset got hit with the "Shoo Ray" which landed her in noncanonita. Lol
0 likesI think Sunset would of turned her back on Celestia to get more power but she would need a spark she clearly didnt have. Even worst Sunset could of forced her way back to fine the land already ruined due to local calamities, with Celestia got and no hope of rebuilding she goes back as her hate shimmers, no way to delight in a grudge when your target may have been wiped off the board.
Wait what if midnight sparkle wasnt defeated?
6 likesMidnight sparkle also want to learn all the magic in the pony world?
Replies (2)
Nah,The pony main six would just have to shoot a rainbow to defeat her...
0 likes40th sub
0 likesBut... The question still remains what was the last time line 🤔😱
0 likesThe monkey king was most likely that last timeline... You know him as the storm king, but I used to call him the monkey king.
3 likes@Sawtooth Waves i think there could be 2 options the last time change of the end of Equestria, it could be true the version of Day Breaker has show she is real, you show us in a video some years ago about the theory abt Day Breaker if she is real or not in other words, but i think Starlight has indeed release a world Day Breaker has burn everything and everypony, but what abt herself i wonder is she also dead after that she has make Equestria dead?
1 likeAnyway i have my other option and that is about Sunset Shimmer eke the Demon she became in the Equestria human world, as you told here if i can still remember even a teenager army won't even work to defeat Celestia and her (copy) army, but she could maybe go make a fight with Celestia in the Pony world she actualy came for, pretty powerfull enough to even use her manipulate powers on Celestia, sorry but that is not what i was thinking how at that point Equestria was dead, i have knowing something could seem and sound super weak and uselless but at the point Demon Sunset Shimmer said to Twilight: I have magic and you have "NOTHING!" Then her hair was on fire, and you know her name what it is: "Sun" Set Shimmer i bet she has power of fire because Celestia have Sun Powers, and sun make fire, so i think Sunset Shimmer has go through the portal itself and has defeat Equestria for revenge orsomething and that is what we saw in the part of Equestria is dead.
What do you think of this how i was thinking about Sunset Shimmer?
Think about it😄
Sunset could have used the other 5 and find a way to find the 6th element
1 likeWhat if sunset put the elements that aren’t magic together by using some spell they might give her enough magic to overthrow equestria
0 likesthat wasteland timeline... (my theory)
1 likeSO MANY DIFFERENT VILLAINS
cozy glow didn't need the school of friendship! she needed tirek! he could've succeded in that timeline to! and... cozy glow just could've asked. although... idk if tirek would aggree... but still! she could convince him! she could've learned that freindship is power without the school! but... there would probobly be a war. cozy glows a kid, she'd lose! well most likley. tirek would also most likley beat chrysalis, sombra, flim flam, nightmare moon... but not discord! he is to powerfull! but if tirek took his magic... different story! although, after all that battle it would resolt in wasteland. the winner would probuobly leave... and thats the best I can do okay? but... the yaks could've desroyed so... that to I geuss
Replies (1)
That's a really good theory!!! You've got potential!!!
0 likesI feel like that last timeline with a Barren Wasteland with the combination of all the villains
3 likesWait.....Didn’t Sunset use the element of magic when it was a crown. The crown was formed only after Twilight and her friends came. So if they weren’t there how could she have come to equestria and got the element of magic?
0 likesPlease tell me if I am missing something.
i don’t think a timeline where sunset wins would be possible
0 likesif the mane 6 never got together, they never could have activated the elements, so sunset could never have stolen the crown from twilight
edit: i guessed the explanation before i watched that part oopp
No I assume when starlight blasted rainbow she was still able to do the rain boom but here's the problem she still wouldn't have all the trust and loyalty she had the prophecy would still be complete but discord's rain she would make it unable to fix it that's turning it into a disaster on the zone even if it was complete that would be a heavy blow and by the time sunset stole the crown it would be too late to fix everything that discord has done they never plan done reforming discord because in this timeline he did a lot more damage so one day rainbow dash had an idea she snuck the crown away from sunset and try to revive discord along with the man six they revived him but he didn't help them he made it way worse that's creating what I call the disaster sunset timeline
1 likeReplies (3)
This is just a theory and the rest of my theory is that
1 likeSunset betrays discord and kills him with no chaos to bring back New Life I know any other pony to bring it back sunset would die and leaving it unrepairable
1 likeIf twilight stayed in that timeline for a couple thousands and I mean thousands of years oxygen would freeze and she would die too along the sunset and Spike but they would die alone before that due to starvation and but then again they wouldn't die for starvation they would die because they're not hydrated there's no way to real life to form there's only way for Life to die
0 likesyou forgot about one of the first episodes the dragonshy I believe the dragon did it you don"t see any plants and only a deserted land so it really seems like the dragons fault
0 likesActually i have a theory what caused that timeline,Do you remember your old theory about the elements of dis-harmony? I think those elements were found by Sunset while she was trying to find another way to get the element of magic,i think she successfully drained the magic thus weaking equestria the ponies then abandoned equestria and settled with one of the other creatures land
3 likesMe and my friends discussed that the royal guards aren't really useful but that was just our opinion, also what happened to the night guards or in other words Lunas army, what happened to them in mlp, we only got to see them in the Halloween one where Luna tries to have fun with ponyville and the timeline when nightmare moon won. That's all we got, did Celestia disband them or were they not considered important
0 likesI think this is reasonable. But if the elements never existed, Sunset might take some other magical objects from Equestria.
0 likesI always thought that the alternate timeline was a nuclear world.
0 likesThe the barren Wasteland couldn't open the results of sunset shimmer because she had to use the element of magic and that elements of magic so if the main six didn't do anything about it and they were normal citizens the elements of Magic wouldn't have been freed and sunset shimmer wouldn't have gotten a hold of it that's why it couldn't have been sunset shimmer
1 likeI have a question. If she didn’t get the magic crown, what WOULD happen to Sunset Shimmer? What is HER alternate timeline?
1 likeReplies (1)
I think some time later, she would start acting kind and live as a normal person in the human world with friends. Or she would stay evil.
0 likesBut what if it was Starlight Glimer's timeline?
1 likeI say the last timeline was the one with midnight sparkle actually got to Equestria
1 likeMaybe that timeline with the dessert was what happened when all the villains tried to take over the villains wouldn’t just stop would they?
0 likesI would've argued that Demon Sunset couldn't have existed in any of those alternate timelines because of the lack of the Element of Magic. But I feel like you stole that argument from me. So just so subvert expectations, I'm gonna argue that the barren wasteland WAS the Demon Sunset future and that Demon Sunset IS possible.
8 likesWe don't actually know when Sunset escaped to the human world. What if she didn't go through the mirror until after the Sonic Rainboom incident? We know that Sunset was Celestia's student before Twilight. But if the Sonic Rainboom didn't happen, Celestia's focus may have stayed on Sunset. And we also know that Sunset left because she found out that it was possible to become an alicorn, but Celestia wasn't telling her. But if Celestia explained that it's not as simple as just giving her wings, perhaps Sunset, rather than escaping to another world in anger, would've stayed and was determined to earn her wings.
Perhaps during the Millennial Summer Sun Celebration, Sunset's situation was similar to Twilight's, being sent to Ponyville and make friends But instead of making friends, she was more focused on stopping Nightmare Moon's return. She saw this as the perfect chance to earn her wings. So rather than overlooking the preparations, Sunset's focus was more on Nightmare Moon. But rather than trying to find the Elements of Harmony, she wouldn't have known about them and would've attempted to stop Nightmare Moon without a plan.
Fast forward to the Castle of the Two Sisters, Nightmare Moon may be more tactical in her approach to dealing with Sunset. Sunset is doing this to prove her worth. But Nightmare Moon tells her that she will never be worthy enough. At least, not in the eyes of Celestia. And from Nightmare Moon's perspective, that's true. Though Sunset is not convinced, Nightmare Moon was successful in planting that seed of doubt and corruption in her mind, weakening her defenses just enough for Nightmare Moon to use her magic to fully corrupt Sunset. And thus, Demon Sunset is born.
But Nightmare Moon underestimated how powerful Sunset would become. So the corruption fed off of Sunset's desire to prove herself by defeating Nightmare Moon. And now she has the power to do so and kills her. But the corruption was already set in, and Demon Sunset wanted to prove herself more by showing that she was more powerful than Celestia. Demon Sunset is never satisfied, her constant desire to show off her worth causes her magic to scorch the land to become the wasteland that it was.
So yeah, I originally had the intent of proving Demon Sunset couldn't have happened and then resulted in demonstrating that Demon Sunset actually could've happened. Granted, it's kind of in spite of you making the argument against Demon Sunset before me. But it's still a possibility, right?
Replies (4)
Nice. I can see that you put a lot of thought into thus theory, but the only thing that the reason why Sunset turned into demon sunset is because she had the element of magic in the human world. No other magic can turn her into demon sunset. And even if she got the crown somehow, nothing would happen. Twilight put the crown on all the time in equestria. Nothing happened. So it has something to do with being in the human world.
1 like@Emmanuel Ehumadu The Element of Magic allowed for the transformation to happen. But it had nothing to do with what she transformed into. And there's no reason why it can't happen with another source of magic, or that it has to be in the human world. It's been proven that having uncontrollable magic can corrupt, as seen when Pinkie took Discord's Chaos magic in the finale (or the comics when that also happened). And corruption combined with magic causes a transformation, as seen with Luna becoming Nightmare Moon, and again with Pinkie with Chaos magic in the comics. Magic does work differently in the human world. But that doesn't mean that the transformation has to have happened in the human world.
0 likesNot really fond of Luna/NMM dying though..
0 likesLike seriously..
I don't think even with the new power, Sunset would be able to kill NMM, a alicorn amped up by darkness.
Then again the show really destroyed the credibility of natural Alicorns such as the sisters, which I hated they did a lot.
@night shroud96 Well, this is MLP after all. So I suppose NMM doesn't have to be killed. Just defeated. Or not even defeated. The wasteland could just be the result of the struggle between NMM and Sunset.
0 likesBut the magic map is always there so there was always a way it happened so it actually could’ve been starlight
0 likesThis is making me want to watch mlp all over again lol
0 likesI think that when "the five are present it will coauz a spark" i think it means the five right ponys for the elements have to be present
0 likesWell They didn’t discover the elements without the Main six so There was no element of magic to steal-
1 likeWithout the cutie marks there would be no reason for the elements to even turn into crown form, in this timeline sunset shimmer would have no power. This can be true but the human world did have 2 portals one built and one natural. This means she could've found power, but even if she did, it was to late. Something had already taken over the pony world whitch could lead to this theory, sunset was in all of those timelines. But as always twilight proved all elements(other then magic) can be more powerful she could've brought the elements herself defeating all evil just to gain trust, at the right moment she would take them and use them in the human world and be as powerful as the twilight human causing her to bring war on the pony world, please study into this. I can't make videos.
0 likesSunset would have wanted equestria but without the element of magic she can't take over that's why we didn't see her because she was still figuring how to conquer equestria
0 likeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTpFwY5DbyA made me think. considering Cadance power is untapped by the show and by comics she COULD go nightmare form.... how devastating could it be when Shining Armor Dies and Cadance falls to her inner demons? (I'd imagine in her dark mind Flurry would "not understand" in any attempt to reason with her grief.)
0 likesI totally agree with you! Happy Holidays, everyone!
0 likesI think sunset would succeeded of one little thing. What if susnset stays a little mor with Celestia and she would know the power of friendship but then..darkness and she would now how powerful the element is and the only question I have is: What if sunset would be the element of magic? Without twilight Maybye she would be the element of magic. She was great at the school so I find it possible. But like the clones of chrysalis she would turned bad and unable to go again without the element of magic or either friendship but if sunset knew the power of the element well the complete destruction of equestria and any other who take she’s way. But I hope you read this.
1 likeThe last timeline where whe don't find any structures looks like the "end of times"
0 likesProbably a extremly strong villain or more than that caused this future...
Thats alot creepy..
I think the last timeline was a continuation of the FlimFlam timeline, as that timeline is already screwed up.
0 likesActually, that would be wrong. Since if they never found the element, Sunset would've never stolen the crown, because there was no crown to steal.
0 likesI think that timeline was the cause of Daybreaker and Nightmaremoon fighting
0 likes4:25 loved his face
1 likeI don’t think Sunset caused that time line because if the main six never met Twilight would’n be able to free the element of magic that would cause Sunset not to be able to get the power of the element of magic.
0 likesI think the reason why se didn't see her was because the equestria Girls series never affected the FIM. I think that the last timeline we saw was because the wendiegoes came back. When every pony was killed by Them they stopped because the job was done.
0 likesI think that future was caused because of daybreaker or might mare noon because after cadence didnt succeed to save the empire celestia was lonely so she turned into daybreaker and destroyed equestria
1 likeCause without the elements of harmony sunset could have never ruled Equestria........as Celestia proberly never mentioned where the elements were and without Twilight becoming the princess of friendship and comeing to the crystal empire Sunset shimmers plan would have never worked
1 likeOr without twilight and her friends the elements of harmony was in a completely different place and thats Its super guarded that she cant get it
1 likeHow would the human world be different if the main six didn’t come together?
0 likesOh yeah I forgot about her,.
21 likesAlso I like your little leaf clip.
Do you guys remember when tirek, cozy, and chrysalis teamed up? Maybe that’s the result of them taking over equestria? I don’t know
0 likeswhat if it was because the mane 6 never met each other, twilight didn't get her crown and become princess because she never knew friendship, and she didn't go to the human world? sunset would have had no crown to steal, so demon-sunset wouldn't have existed
1 likeMaybe she would have took the Mane 6 of her world got the element of magic and the other 5 elements to get even more power
1 likeWhat I think that happened in the wasteland is that when tirek and his brother were going to take over the world and they succeeded that is what would have happened. This is what I think.
0 likesyou forgot the timeline where twilight met applejack but she didn't know her
0 likesThat was the Sunset Shimmer timeline she used some sort of other magic maybe I'll call an ambulance or she actually talked to one of the villains for all we know is that she did turn into a demon somehow
1 likeMaybe it was the Cosy Glow timeline? No magic, no anything?
0 likesActually, if Twilight didn't found the element of harmony then there is no crown for Sunset to steal. Done
1 likeMe right now: I'mma send this to Element War.
21 likesWhen this video can be debunked by saying the elements of harmony wouldn’t exist in there current physical state if it weren’t for the rain boom, so this video although a great idea, isn’t possible when you go into the logistics
0 likesEdit: just seen the fact you go into this lol
It’s the same with corrupt Twilight in the third movie
0 likesWhat if that last timeline was corrupt Twilight opening the rift, because in the other world, Sunset wouldn’t have been reformed to stop her allowing Twilight to rip the human world open to get to the pony world, I should make a video on that on Random disguises
if the timeline was already distorted and there weren't any main 6...then there will be no sunset shimmer gaining control on the element of magic right?
0 likesactually sunset needed the main six to free the elements so she could steal the element of magic, she can't free them alone
0 likesWhen we’re talking about time travel anything is possible, if I wanted to explain all the possibilities with time travel and how it works I would need to make a video not just a comment. And a long video at that. Another thing is that if we were to discard the timeline in the course of events in MLP just about anything is possible. One of the reasons the background ponies are so popular is the fact that we don’t know their stories and we can come up with crazy things about these ponies and still have it fit into the canon. If we are able to make all these stories fit into the canon any slight adjustment to the timeline could have crazy alternatives. A.k.a. the butterfly effect. Stopping the rain boom was a big one but what if it was something small? Luna and Celestia agreeing on the security measures in “Twilights Seven”. Then Twilight and her friends would fail. Imagine everything that would be different and how vulnerable the palace would be. And if we were to take into account all the background ponies lives, there would be even more danger involved. Basically if we’re talking in theoretical terms with different timelines, anything is possible.
7 likesReplies (1)
@Hannah Ringer O, hey it's you!
0 likesThe final timeline is the Fallout: Equestria timeline
Discord and Wolfmother from the .mov series. Looks pretty similar.
0 likesVideo idea : What made the elements of harmony?
1 likeDid you know Starlight did become an alicorn and was Princess of the Great Valley
0 likesTheres 2 examples of why this didn't happen cannonly:
0 likes1. If human Flutter Shy didn't hanf the crown to the principal then Sunset would have a greater chance.
2. If Sunset never had tripped over spikes tail then wam bam yes mam Sunset would have gone fine
Already got an answer if Twilight never found the elements she would've never got the crown
0 likesThe last one might be what would have happened if starlight wasn't stopped
0 likesI think the last timeline was caused by a event that resulted in the apocalypse (I mean that lifeless grey windy world that was the last timeline starlight created)
0 likesSorry to say this sawtooth but you forgot about something
0 likesEquestrian girls began in the beginning of season 4 and starlight stopped the rainboom in the end of season 5 so that means sunset was already reformed on that episode of starlight also the sirens we re also defeated before starlight stopped the rainboom
I know this all thanks to that MLP timeline you collaborate
We didn’t see a timeline, where Sunset succeeded, because the Equestria Girls series is not connected to the normal MLP:FIM.
0 likesWhat if all of a sudden after the elements of harmony were found in war free the main six disappeared
0 likesI thought the world was a world where the pony of shadows won cause it was dark and sad (because when they were looking for the pony of shadows in the show they looked for a place of shadows)I know it might be a bit weird and I know yes then could be still in limbo but he could escape
1 likeReplies (1)
And yes I do know all the plot holes you could punch in the idea but I think it could be possible if you looked though the show so I hope that sawtooth waves can make a good vid but idk he prob won't see but hay it's worth a shot am I right
0 likesWhat if the mistery timeline was the Storm King timeline ?
0 likesI love these vids!
9 likesYou show that there are so many secrets hidden in mlp😂
0 likesthere was no sunset shimmer timeline because remember sunset shimmer wanted the crown of twilight? when starlight glimmer changed the past the mane six didnt meet and the villains suceeded that means there was no spirit of the elements of harmony only twilight, but when the mane six did not meet it was only Celestia and luna but without the elements they wouldnt had defeated discord, so the elemnts wouldnt have been discovered but when we go the topic of sunset shimmer, there are no elements and she would still be in the pony world still learning about magic so she wouldnt be greedy at that time cause she didnt know about the crown, the element of magic. reply to this leave some more thoughts and theories of what you think happend i hope this made sense
0 likesWhat if the barren wasteland was from the alternate Twilight. The land is clearly magical so that what it would look like if she drained all the magic. hmmm?
0 likesI think the grey timeline was the aftermath of any, or all, the other timeline
0 likesWhat if it was Sunset who became a princess and not Twilight who joined the Mane 6 instead. If Twilight stole the Sunset's crown and settled in the human world and jealous of Sunset then how would the world be different? What if Starlight brought Twilight to another reality where that happened?
0 likesI think it might be all the villains had a clash between each other making it fall to ruin
0 likesI think it might be all the villains had a clash between each other making it fall to ruin
0 likesSunset Might be able to win because if you remember on one of the episodes when the tree of harmony got yPrincess Celestia and Princess Luna we all saw that princess Celestia took out the elements of magic with her horn so sunset shimmer may be able to do the same.
0 likeswhat about the parasprites? perhaps they might be the last timeline? since pinkie wouldnt move to ponyville if it wouldnt be for the rainboom, since she figured out happiness/joy bc of it, and since none of the other ponies knew what they were not even fluttershy /even so fluttershy wouldnt have moved there anyways/ but all their food would be gone, and pinkie not being there doing all the music, all ponyvilles food would be gone and since they duplicate everytime they eat smth it would be alot of them, and when they were done with ponyville they could have gone to canterlot, manehattan cloudsdale and everywhere in equestria since on that episode in the end of it, celestia also said that those were somewhere else in equestria, and since twilight wouldnt move to ponyville celestia wouldnt know about the ones in ponyville eitherway it would have been in 2 places in that case, and if they eat all food, then everypony and creature would starve, since they also dont eat meat and the animals wouldnt have any food either so, starvation. and who knows how long in time starlight took them before it became so deserted.
0 likesin which case the parasprites would perhaps also starve after eating all the food, so they ate the grass and all that, and without food no strenght, and celestia wouldnt be able to rise the soon or moon since she wouldnt have the energy. / idk if luna would still be there tho/ and then the ponies in cloudsdale wouldnt be able to work with the weather, so no rain to water the trees and plants and all that stuff, and then the parasprites might just eat the houses since those would be the last left to eat tills they would also starve.
idk its just a guess or theory or smth-
I think the apocalypse timeline was caused by an all out battle between all villains, but no one won. Maybe the unrest caused Grogar to come back, he destroyed everyone and everything, then ended up defeated by the Windigos because of the destruction?
0 likesWinners one thing without the mane 6 Crown that makes sunshine shimmers diemand would have never happened it didn't get the Crown there in the 1st place so that explains why we didn't get an alternate timeline of thunchath shimmer
1 likeSunset would still be a bully and mean to everyone, the reason why she became evil and stole the crown is because she was jealous, plus the crown wouldn't need to be stealed since Twillight wouldn't be there.
1 likeThat makes a lot of sense!!! Your really smart sawtooth waves and thanks for this channal I love watching it!!!
3 likesLet's say this
0 likesThis is a alternative timeline and where the main six is brought together and when twilight go in to the human world but sunset still succed and go into the pony world .
But there a catch there is three god , one discord , tons of guard and a little baby that destroy the crystal heart
Yep sunset is not going to survive
This also relates to midnight sparlkle. With out demon sunset, no midnight sparkle
0 likesIf the rainboom never happened before then sunset would have never turned nice there is a way to use only the five elements to destroy Celestia think about it when twilight sparkle drank the mystery drink from the zebra Celestia sent nightmare moon to her prison maybe sunset could of done that with the other princesses and sent them away but also destroying equestria
1 likeI think the last time line was created by a big battle of all the villains or maybe it from the ever-free forest grow out of control maybe.
0 likesHmmmm well if that was sunset’s alternate world then do you think she went down with the rest of equestria? If she could do a spell that powerful wouldn’t it take down her as well? And if she did somehow survive, what would be left for her to rule? She would be done with her revenge and try to get back to the human world
57 likesHowever, is that wasn’t her alternate world then I have a different idea, when sombra took over the crystal empire (again) since the mirror was stored there sunset could’ve come into the portal and ruled along side sombra, or the opposite they had a big fight
Idk these are just theories ;-;
Replies (10)
she may have accidentally ripped the worlds apart, kinda like how sci twi was just tearing holes everywhere without regard to the effects
16 likes@Sawtooth Waves fair point, but if she did do that there is a possibility she saw another world (example: The timelines starlight made) she could’ve sent her army through one of them? Idk
6 likes@Sawtooth Waves But tearing apart the fabrics of the universe is more of what DISCORD does (pink skyes and pink ground, dancing trees all of that.) The apocalyptic future would be more a consequence than a ripp of dimensions.
7 likes@CCarlos what if she absorbed discord’s Magic from the crown?
0 likes@LogicalOwl That could be true, but discord's magic can only play with reality (like the chocolate rain, the dancing trees, pink sky and ground, upside down houses, all of that) the apocalyptic future looks more like a consecuence
1 like@LogicalOwl I don’t think Twilights CROWN LOL can absorb magic like Grogars bell can
0 likesMaybe it could be midnight sparkles timeline
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves hmmm yes
0 likesNo, not anyone from equestria girls, last one was actually done by the parasprites!
0 likes@NoobMaster69 true, do you think anything else could’ve caused it?
0 likes3:41 You reminded me of something here; The whole reason Twilight is even “special” is because she figured out the riddle for elements of harmony; Remember ANYONE or THING could’ve done that; That specific pony just needed to understand the magic of friendship and unlocked “the Spark”....
2 likesShe was just the only pony (at the time) to truly understand the true magic of it and unlocked the elements....
I actually like to think that Twlight herself isn’t “special”, and that she was just lucky....Anyone could’ve done that! Literally anyone! There are just so many powerful unicorns who could’ve done it, but what set her apart from everyone else is that she able to understand the prophecy and the true power of the elements, due to her past and training and stuff.....The universe would’ve gone on just fine if she was never born, don’t get it twisted....
My theory: It has to be Starlight Glimmer
0 likesThis video reminds me about the fanfiction where Sunset is ruling Equestria
0 likesI think that the last time line was formed because none of the villains were defeated so all of the fought against each other that's why nothing was left in the last timeline
0 likesi thought that timeline is midnight sparkle's taking all the magic of equestria
4 likesAnother possibility for the waste land of nothingness is that all of the villains all started war and the war destroyed everything 💁🏼♀️
0 likesWhat if the last timeline, was cozy glow? I think even they would not make the friendship school, Cozy would be mad caused of the thing she even got mad! She wouldve made a different plan and probably get all of the magic from equestria..
0 likesIn the alternate timeline, there probably wouldnt be a demon sunset shimmer at all. because the elements would still be hidden because the sonic rainboom was prevented, which means the crown couldnt exist because the mane six never met up and became friends.😃
0 likesI think the barren Wasteland is the most terrifying timeline, because it wasn't caused by any of the mainstream villains but the result of what would happen if DAY BRAKES! When Celestia stops caring about being a ruler. When she realize just how powerful she could become. The only thing holding her back is her morals. The best ways to lose your morals is to burn them at the roots and set Equestria ablaze.
0 likesIf your reading this say safe wear your masks and may God bless you and carry over and solve all lost caused
3 likesWhat if the "unknown" timeline was cozy glow fault. Or a war between nightmare moon army vs chrisalis army +sombra army
1 likeWhat never made sense to me I'm this episode was if Starlight stopped the sonic rainboom from happening then why didn't Twilight also lose her cutie mark and her alicorn powers, since if she failed her entrance exam and was not accepted into Celestia's school, then in turn she would never have become a princess and therefore never gotten her wings, so Twilight should have become just another unicorn battling against Starlight Glimmer minus her wings and possibly her cutie mark. The rest of her friends didn't get their cutie marks because the sonic rainboom was effectively prevented.
0 likesUnless Twilight still somehow became a princess and got her cutie mark after all which doesn't seem likely because she would not have been accepted into Celestia's school.
My theory is that the barren wasteland was caused by an all-out battle and someone used a spell of annihilation or Armageddon and there is believed to be no life remaining and it might have been caused by some kind of advanced weapon like a nuke of some sort, if the ponies or others ever figured out that kind of technology. But it probably was simply an all out war for the world that killed everyone.
The wasteland is "if starlight glimmer wasn't defeated"
1 likeI know what cost this it's all of the villains in the future merge together theme up and defeat the equestria if the main 6 would not there they could have stopped it from happening but there was no one there I think this is the reason of this I hope you understand and I love your channel and your discoveries
1 likeWOAH AWESOME VID SAWTOOTH YOU GOT A AMAZING THINKING POWER WHEN IT COMES TO MLP
8 likesIf the power doesn't carry over it would explain why we can't see the timeline where it happens
0 likesThe villain that made Equestrian
2 likesI think the reason of the deserted timeline is because all villains fight and then all of there fighting brought the windigoes and then when all the power combined it resulted in the timeline we see
0 likesThe last timeline was Dawnbreaker.
0 likesIf sunset was not defeated she could maybe be a evil vision of a princess because in the comics I’m the rise of sunset shimmer” it shows that she wants to become a princess already and could get revenge on Celestia who didn’t give her on want she wanted most so if she able get revenge on celestia she could maybe steel all of the princesses magic and transported all of the magic into her self to become a more overpowering allicorn and be a taking revenge on their teacher celestia its makes so sense in my opinion.
3 likesYou forgot that the royal guards are just display.... Even tempest easily kicked their ass. And the 3 princesses with it.
0 likesI bet that the last timeline was the Sirens: war broke out and everything was destroyed
0 likesBut like the elements of harmony only materialized with the mane 6, without the crown sunset wouldnt have gotten it and became a she demon.
0 likesMake a video talking about what Cadence was doing before the Crystal Empire returned
0 likesI can't just understand that if in the alternate timelines of starlight, the mane 6 don't get together and found the magic of friendship then how's in equestria that cutie mark map appreared if they didn't found the magic of friendship, they won't found that they represents elements, then how they recovered tree of harmony and opened that magical lock, and that castle appeared with that cutie map ??
3 likesSo how's that cutie mark map is in every alternate time line?? 🤨
Replies (1)
I think this might be possible because cutie map connects not only every place on earth, but also every time, so, once it's created, it can't be uncreated, no matter what happens... Others in those alternate timelines might not understand where did it came from, but it's still there.
2 likesWhat if celestia was the one that hid the element of magic 🪄 because that episode when discords plunder vines that took over the tree of harmony how we saw how celestia used the element of magic to defeat nightmare moon
1 likethere can't be a sunset timeline if there is no crow for her to steal
0 likesit was the main 6 who found the elements of harmony so when sunset comes twilight won't even be princess
if the mane 6 didnt meet, the elements would still just be a rumor and not in her reach...
0 likesI like to think the last time line is daybreakers ( celestias) future.
0 likesMy theory: The last timeline is caused by a collide between all the other timelines. Just think about it. Each timeline had only one villain. And Twilight said herself: ,,Every world is worst than the last". So the last possible timeline must be the WORST one. And what can be the worst thing to happen in Equestria? All the villains from the different timelines to return at the same time. That way, they would start fighting for Equestria, destroying everything with their battle, until there is nothing left. So the last timeline is practically the complete distrouction of life, the end of the world.
5 likeswhat if the original crown for the school was powerful, but only in equestria. how else would the magic symbol on the school crown be like that
0 likesIk demon sunset would still be evil and possibly caused an apocalypse but that design looks badass.
0 likesWait...This is my Theory: If the Rainboom didn't exist? She can't be a Princess unless....
0 likesRemember when Sunset Shimmer took the crown? She would destroy the Equestia IF she have the whole army
What if she heard it? If Sunset Shimmer wasn't defeated, she would be in the portal and took Equestia.. I hope so.
I love the bride emotion so much
1 likeOh, it's nice to see my friend's art on prewiev ^^
3 likesthere's a Fanfic called "Context" over on Fimfiction that has an idea about the Wasteland timeline, it's this,
0 likes“Your funeral...” Discord said, rolling his eyes. “Or rather, Dashie's funeral, since your blast killed the poor dear. Congratulations! In that world, your plan succeeded! Twilight and the others never got their Cutie Marks, and never became friends! Which means that there was nothing to stop Nightmare Moon, me, Queen Chrysalis, King Sombra, Arabus, Grogar, and SO MANY OTHER rapscallions from coming back from their hidden homes and start waging a war with each other across Equestria. Eventually, Celestia went insane from trying to stop us all, became Daybreaker, and self-destructed, killing ALL life on the planet.”
that's.... that's just horrorible...
he even get's a loadfull by Twilight and what does Discord do? -----> “Hey, she's the one who wanted to know,” Discord said, smirking. “I just obliged her. Ta!” He snapped his fingers and vanished in a puff.
what an ass,
This probably would not happen but imagine if nightmare moon, daybreaker, and demon sunset fought.
0 likesIf the main six weren’t around sunset wouldn’t have been able to get the element of magic and therefor not be able to destroy equestria with the dark magic the element gave to her
0 likesI believe that sunset could have never successfully do her plan because if twilight never met her friends then sunset would have never been jealous of twilight because she never would have became a allicorn
0 likesI was bout' to say early, but guess not...
101 likesEARLY.
Replies (1)
Why is that me tho-
1 likeI think the waste land time line was The Dazzalings. This is because they would of destroyed lots of land to find starswirl
0 likesWell If The element was not there, How Would She even know about it? And The Other Elements? No One Know About it But The Queen Of The Sun. Also, They Were In Stone And They Are Necklasses. It Must Be A Crown Remember.. Teh Crown = Da Magic And Whatever. Thats What I Think.
0 likesI Think not all the timelines starlight created had to deal with the sonic rainbow I think start light didn’t do everything the same but was a bit creative before everything that happened after Ali corn twilight after the old elements were old and rusty then sunset shimmer stole the crown I think twilight didn’t go through the crown the mane 5 would still hate each other and nothing would stop sunset shimmer as for starlights timeline for sunset I think it didn’t exist sunset shimmer destroyed everything and now nothing exist not only that but I honk she went after the other elements but they won’t work unless she used the opposite like a corrupted version of elements
1 likeI think that wasteland was a future that starlight caused if there were no special talents nothing could be make special thing like houses or stuff
1 likeI have a prediction, what if rarity actually finds ways to make her magic more useful? as shown in season 9, rarity uses her magic to throw a giant rock and also carries pinkie pie and her party cannon. Maybe rarity is trying to improve her magic...and in “Growing up is hard to do,” sweetie belle teleports while saving a pony from bloofy. Maybe sweetie belle and rarity try to improve their magic? Just my prediction.
17 likesAnother prediction that would’ve made season 10, would be when Flurry Heart is a filly, Cozy Glow is freed from stone and meets flurry heart, them becoming friends and flurry heart hiding their friendship from twilight and cadence. Cozy glow starts to understand friendship and tries to be good, but flurry heart is nervous about any pony discovering their bond...
Replies (1)
I have fear of long words-
3 likesAAAAAAaaaAaAAAaaaaaaaAAAAAhhhHh
I think the last time line is when all of the villian attack at the same time an it explode an destroy everything (just a guess)
0 likessunset could be an opposite of starlight because it took much longer for starlight to be you know finished but sunset gave up everything more easily. ohhhhh what if the were sisters
0 likesSunset could have never got into one of starlights timeline if she never went through the portal
0 likesWhat if that wastland timeline was the result of all the villians fighting over who takes equestria and the result is what we've seen
0 likesIt also could have been Cosy Glow or Grogar
0 likesBut, if the mane 6 weren't there. The crown may not exist in the first place and so therefore sunset shimmer may not be able to win anyways. The elements may still exist but it would be very hard for her to obtain.
0 likesI think it would like turn to the alternate one where like twilight and sunset changes roles and friends of sunset in the equestria girls the girls that are in the team of the human twilight(not princess twilight)the girls that are there are the like exchanges of the mane 5 and twilight will turn to be the one that will steal the crown of friendship except sunset its like their lifes just change but there was no evilness in sunset
0 likesAlso the mark of the crown is like sunset's mark not like twilight's mark
I hope you notice me😁
Is it possible the the desolate world time line was caused by the pony of shadows? In S7E26 Shadow play II, at the final battle of the episode Stigian said "the shadow and I bacame one, and soon all the realm will be the same. Then all the ponies will feel the dispare I did from being cast out" I think he used the pony of shadow magic to destroy everything then cast all living things to limbo because that was how he was cast out/banished. This would rezult in a desolate wasteland of darkness. If they had stayed longer perhaps the pony of shadows would've showed up, however this is yhe only time line in which they didn't stay longer than one conversation and neither did that explore at all.
0 likesI clicked faster then James could say hi sisters
269 likesReplies (28)
@RaiAE' 🤔🤔
1 likeIMPOSSIBLE!!! NO ONE ON PLANET EARTH IS FASTER THAN CHARLES!!!!!
1 like@x•L E M O N P I E•x JAMES CHARLES!!???!!! A BOY THAT PUTS
2 likesMAKE-UP! NO WAY HE CAN BE HERE!
Peridoddtttt
1 like@James Pavell u know what your right😔
1 like@x•L E M O N P I E•x of course I am
0 likesHES JAMES MOTHER FRICKING CHARLES!!!
HI SISTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 likeHi sister-
1 likeHuh
0 likesWha-
0 likesLol
0 likes@RaiAE' what a face🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👁️👄👁️🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesLOLOLOLOL
0 likes@Amit Singhal 👁👄👁
0 likes@SilkyPaws bruh to much LOLOLOL man
0 likes@x•L E M O N P I E•x 😂😂✨✨
0 likes@SilkyPaws really 😭😭that’s the first time I was funny 😭😭😭
0 likes@x•L E M O N P I E•x LOL
0 likes@SilkyPaws you know what LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL wow that was a workout
0 likes@x•L E M O N P I E•x LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL 😌✋
0 likes@SilkyPaws LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL how about that
0 likes@x•L E M O N P I E•x LOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOL
0 likes@SilkyPaws LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
0 likes@x•L E M O N P I E•x LOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOL ✨✨✨
0 likes@SilkyPaws👁👄👁 I cant beat that man 👁👄💧👁
0 likes@x•L E M O N P I E•x hehehe ima gurl and 👁👄👁
0 likes@SilkyPaws me to 👁👅👁
0 likes@x•L E M O N P I E•x yayayay XD
0 likeswhat if that future possibility was the result if starlight glimmer wasn't defeated? if she stole the cutie marks of every single pony in equestria?
0 likesso my thoughts are, if twilight didnt exist sunset wouldnt be jealous or if she failed and got mad but the mane 6 doesnt exist either it still wont work since the other elements would fail since sunset shimmer doesnt know where they are, celestia is the only pony that knows how to open that seal, so sunset cant do anything. though she'd still be mean to others in the human world
0 likesMy theory : is that if sunset even said
0 likesThat she will rule equestria make any sense twilight own that element her self if she wanted to she could just do a spell of that she is the element of magic so there must be a connection the element of magic can't just betray its pony it's connected with it just can't turn into evil like we saw twilight could somthing with the crown like sunset demon fired twilight with some of her magic but the crown was connected to her so it protected her but I maybe wronge because all of her friends also protected twilight even though the pony twilight is not there real friends and time to timeless see less twilight in the human world
What if midnight sparkle (aka twilights evil self) caused the wasteland. She did say that she would take all magic out of the human and pony worlds
1 likeThe important question is: "IF WE DIDN'T SAW A SUNSET SHIMMER PLAN ACHIEVED FUTURE, THEN WHO'S PLAN WAS ACHIEVED."
9 likesCan you make a video about this please??
Also for the matter, Rainbow Dash is the one that affects the events and future, so the way the Sonic Rainboom was stopped may have had a mental or physical consequence on her, for example in the apocalyptic future she was stopped by a magic laser(or whatever is called), In king Sombra's War she was stopped by a freezing spell that tied her hoofs together, and the list goes on and on
The unknown timeline has no lore it is just a filler it is just a random timeline for the plot of the episode
0 likesI think the one that wasn't explained may be the world in which....Well I f you think about it my way they also stopped Starlight Glimmer from making the village such talentless. Meaning she had the ability to do so to the entire Equestria. As we all know Equestria wouldn't last a chance without ponies with no talent....Maybe she proceeded to take cutie marks of the entire Equestria and then without each other everyone died and so did she....A little far fetched Ik but ..... What about it?
0 likesBut if twlight and her friends didn't meet they wouldn't have unlocked the elements of harmony so how would sunset even get the element of magic? Supposing it stayed put in the castle of the two sisters where it was when twlight and her friends found them wouldn't that mean sunset would have to somehow get past the guards of the crystal empire, travel all the way to ponyville, get through the every free forest and possibly have to face off with nightmare moon to get to it and still have it be trapped in stone. I know she's gifted in magic but not that gifted
0 likesmaybe the very last timeline was some sort of villian war ⚔️
1 likeThe last timeline was fallout equestria HAHAHAHA
4 likesI have a way it’s stupid that sunset could of succeeded:
0 likesShe could of gone through the portal stole the other 5 elements jewel steal the element of magic then use that to become so powerful and if can’t fit on her body give one of the Element to to snips and snails.
I think the only thing that could make sunset win wouldve be that starlight made it so spike doesnt come with twilight
0 likesMabey the last timeline was a Daybreaker time line!
0 likeswhat if she took all the other ones somehow combined and got twilights element just my thought
0 likesi already feel like it's gonna be great!
8 likesIt wouldn’t have been so hard to get past the Royal guards they do nothing😑
1 likeBut What Was That Final Timeline? Easy... The End Of The World/The End Of Every Bad Universe
0 likesThe Apocalypse In A Sense
But What Was That Final Timeline? Easy... The End Of The World/The End Of Every Bad Universe
0 likesThe Apocalypse In A Sense
Honestly looks like daybreaker happend and caused an apocalypse there could be some durvivors or none everything appears to be burned and the fact the sun is low would suggest nightmare moon is free as well and they're going head to head
0 likesFirst coment! :D
13 likesEdit: I speak Spanish and still I love your videos, in my community there are not many people who like to talk, much less make videos of this type. :')
i think the storm king caused that devoid timeline.
0 likesAll the villains gone against each other with Sunset Shimmer nuking the whole of Equestria a bit like Tereks and Twilight's but 100x bigger
1 likeI think that maybe if the rain boom didn’t happen then the main six maybe might not be friends. And then the elements of harmony wouldn’t have been found and nightmare moon wouldn’t be defeated. Because twilight couldn’t get the element of magic without all her friends. So with that nightmare moon still wouldn’t be defeated queen crysalis would be destroying Equestria .Tirek would be free and none could defeat him. And cozy glow would drain out anymore magic that would still be there. Also starlight would still be in her village where she took there cutie marks. And without that none of the changelings would have turned to good. This shows that Equestria would be in great danger and could not handle all the evil and Equestria would be destroyed.
0 likesSunset could’ve never stole the crown because the element of magic would’ve never appeared for the crown actually actually be stolen so that’s why there’s no timeline of her winning (Also if he said this I’m in the middle of the vid)
0 likesI think that the idea of the dry timeline is that Celestina has been defeated but every vilian was free, and comepeted for whom is the ruler of equestria, at the middle, everything was torn down, ponies are endangered, and equestria became a dry place, I don’t exactly know how the villains are defeated but I think that they were hold by the soul of Celestia’s army and light.
5 likesMaybe the wasteland came up because since all the villains succeeded they fought each other for power and eventually destroyed themselves and equestria
0 likesI think the windigos caused the mystery timeline
0 likesHere is something if the rainsboom happened later when she tries to do it again maybe sunset could defeat them in this one if she pulled apart the mane six
1 like"wouldnt've stood a chance" pffffffffffffft its the royal guard we're talking about, a leaf could take over equestria if the royal guard was the only thing standing in their way
0 likesHi sawtooth waves
3 likesWe're back
Always be there with you
Maybe the wasteland was created by all the villains that fought they destrod the world well at least that is what i think
1 likeI love that demon pony sunset design
0 likesFor some reason, (even though the title is “If Sunset Shimmer wasn’t defeated) I thought it would be about if Sunset Shimmer didn’t turn good. Like the memories the mane 6 had in forgotten Friendship
0 likesI think that wasteland of nothing was caused by tirek because we saw him shooting down trees.
0 likesI think the timeline was caused because they never stopped the real Grogar JkLol
10 likesReplies (17)
Imp thnx sawtooth It’s so appreciating
0 likesThat’s also what I think
1 likeThe Anti Critic yo awesome it could of been I mean they rushed mLp so badly it should of ended in season 10
2 likes@Dead Channel what if in the Changelingverse crysalis and shining armor had sex
1 likeThe Anti Critic what the he’ll man
1 likeWhy would they have sex
1 like@Dead Channel maybe so that someone could rule after chrysalis is dead
1 likeThe Anti Critic bruh she can’t be dead she’s immortal
1 like@Dead Channel 3 tings a) I’m think that occellus was like thorax I’m witch she never believed in the old ways of the chsnglings 2) in think that princess crystal result of them having sexual would be love interest to thorax after leaving the Changelingverse 3) chrysalis in Changelingverse = unbridge
1 likeThe Anti Critic ok
1 like@Dead Channel what do think of those 3 things
1 likeThe Anti Critic cool good ur oppinion
1 like@Dead Channel do you think that occelus never believeing in the old ways of the changelings is highly plausible
1 likeThe Anti Critic ok my comment was just a little joke and I’m really sorry don’t mean to be rude but I don’t really honestly care anymore
1 like@Dead Channel ok then
1 likeJust kidding that ok was a joke and I do want to hear your legit honest opinion
1 likeIn case you’re wondering my opinion I think it is highly plasablile
1 likesimple answer, the disaster called equestria girls was never cannon.
0 likesQuite simple really( why a Sunset timeline wasn't shown)Think about it Sunset demom form happened in the Human World and not in Equestria, Equuestria Girls was released on June 13, 2013, and they already defeated Demon Sunset, and the events of them meeting Starlight happened after, and Starlight wanted to stop the Mane 6 from ever happening, which occurred in EQUESTRIA, and Twilight already defeated Sunset which happened in the HUMAN WORLD, and most of that alternate timeline were of villians in again EQUESTRIA if they were not defeated because there was no Mane 6
0 likesI think Sunset wouldnt have even got the elements! Due to friends if they didnt meet!
0 likesBiggest question is how the FUCK Sunny knew about the crown in the first place? She went to human land well before Twiggles was even made Celestia's student, so there is no scenario that she could have even known about the thing's existence (Let alone that it looked exactly like the plastic crown from her school).
0 likesi like your adorable little accessory there
3 likesReplies (1)
thank you ^^
2 likesWait when Celestia decided to banish Luna to the moon she took the element of majic from the top circle
0 likesMaybe instead of sunsets timeline it might be starlight glimmers if she won
0 likesOr maybe Midnight Sparkle?
0 likesFrom Friendship games?
What if there was no one to stop her from entering Equestria and she took all the magic?
I thought the wasteland one was reeeeeeeeally far back like as far back as the 3 tribes seperate, there are no ponies right the world was destroyed by wind things, I think
0 likesI ignored the nofitication and then I was like hol up-
13 likesThe elements are like part of the main 6 so the twilight's crown never existed
0 likesI would like to direct you to a fanfic called 'The last report' read by scribbler productions. It has a good theory of what happened.
0 likesmaybe the other worlds time line is unaffected since there still are all elements
0 likesThough when the ZA(ZOMBIE ARMY) went through the portal theres be two of the ponies
0 likesSo if they touch each other it will create a powerful source of magic which will send everypony to grogars past AND will messed up the timeline
BUT if they work together they will tell eachother when/what things they do/like
Heres another problem
THEY ARE HYPNOTIZED
So the cant go through that path they can only do one option destroy equestria AND its timelime and destroy any dimesion on its way included human world
But if they fought other speicies like CHANGELING or GRIFFON they will give ponies time to settle and prepare there lives
ofcourse one pony will wonder of and be part of their team so this path wont work
and so thats why theres no SUNSET timeline in the MLP
Hope you get me😊
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU I ALREADY KNOW I WILL ENJOY IT UwU LOVE YOUR VIDS <3
7 likesEvery universe has his own time,If you change the past in one of them the others will not ne affected,i think is logic enough
0 likesI think wasteland timeline was Nightmare moon against Daybreaker.
0 likesFinally you answered my question.
0 likesImma smash the like button.
Sunset shimmer couldn’t have stolen the element of magic because it wouldn’t existed they only appeared after the main six.
0 likesI think timeline 7 is grogar
4 likesBut remember sunset became one of the rainbooms after she came out of the demon form
0 likesThen don't you there should be a cozy glow time line too?
1 likeIdk remember the details and I'm late here but the equestrial human world.... sunset was unable to return the portal as it closed. Why did it closed? Did Sci Twi stole the magic from there or... during the moment of the time loop, it no longer existed that world as it probably was closed (after first movie of questrial girls) due to no one making it open (from the second equestrian girl movie) Why didn't it affected the human world when Twilight went a time loop? Unless it break off the world in order to remain unaffected the change from the other world? It came back after twilight resolved it, I'm not sure since it has a long time I watch it.
1 likei know this is late but without twilght there would be no magic element since she created it
0 likesI was just thinking the conclusion bro-
4 likesThe question still is who caused the waste land
1 likeReplies (1)
So many possibilities. It could be because of Starlight removing all cutie marks from Equestria, Tirek, Cozy Glow and Crystalis succeded, the Storm King succeded and all the villains Succeded.
0 likesCelestia's best student Twilight Sparkle. Sunset Shimmer was in second place. Sunset Shimmer may have been the "chosen one" if there was no other option. Sunset Shimmer also discovered friendship aswell. Sunset Shimmer might have been Princess...Where Twilight would turn into a Nerd researching in her basement with teenage angst.
0 likesBecause if twilight and the others didn’t become friends,sunset wouldn’t be able to get the crown
0 likesI think we didnt see sunsetshimer in timeling because when the main six had been never met eachother soooo there wont be any crown of princess sparkle or atleast the crown wouldnt be on the table near the princess's bed
0 likesooh this is gonna be awesome!
16 likesHeres what i guessed. It is her timeline cause she saw the magic giving her the spark of the magic causing the magic element to come to be. What do you all think?
0 likesMaybe it’s a unknown Character we never saw in the Show maybe the unknown character grab the Same Element as sunset And know that it was Powerless in the pony World so the unknown character went to the human world and Turned evil and went to the pony world and messed with Magic and was responsible for the corrupted timeline we saw
0 likesWhat if the dazzlings had won?
0 likesI know why! I know this is old but imma say it anyways. The crown and the element wouldn’t have been there at all if it weren’t for Twilight and her friends. So therefore there would be no crown! Am I wrong? Idk if that makes sense?
1 likeoh my gosh!
5 likeswhat if sunset stole the crown but was not caught so they didn't know where the crown was and they didn't know where it went until sunset came back through the portal as Deamon sunset so it plays out like this:
0 likessunset goes to the pony world then gets the crown but does not trip over spike gets out and gets past the guards right back through the portal and then they didn't know where the crow went then deamon sunset comes and creates the wasteland timeline
Sunset shimmer could win if she took the five elements and use her magic to make a spark
0 likesThe mane 6 are equestrias greatest defenders. the crystal gems in equestria:you've been replaced!
0 likesWe didn't see sunsets tumeline bc twilight didnt find elements of harmony and sunset couldn't get it
0 likesDo you know why Thorax is taller?
7 likesMy thought: The spirit of harmony knew that Chrysalis won't reformed, so... The Spirit of Harmony made Thorax taller :O
Replies (1)
Maybe cos he was the first and the one filled with the most friendship magic, so it gave him features to show his authority?
1 likeBut wouldn't Sunset's victory timeline be plausible if only Spike didn't catch her in stealing Twilights crown?
0 likesBecause imagine, Sunset goes back to Equestria with the fake of Twilight's crown. Instead of accidentally waking up Spike, Sunset would maybe have been able to steal the crown, and place if with the fake without anyone noticing. She'd go back into the portal from where she came, and Twilight's crown would've either been a good fake or only be realized of being stolen the next morning. By that time Sunset has Twilight's crown. Everything goes as planned and Sunset with her army go to destroy Equestria. I might've missed some details it's been a while since I last watched anything related to MLP. But wouldn't Sunset's victory be solely dependent on if Spike wakes up or not in time? They wouldn't have any reason to believe it came from the mirror since no one was seen that night coming from or to the portal. They'd maybe just instead search for it in Equestria or the castle.
Maybe the wasteland was an allout villains war where nobody won?
0 likesMy theory of Barren wasteland is that Celestia turned into day breaker
0 likesShe needed the element in of magic if twilight didn’t become a mane six sunset wouldn’t be able to get the elemnt
0 likesHe should make a video trying to figure out what that unknown time like me is. He can use process of elimination. Make a list of all the times equestria was saved by the main six, then eliminate the ones that couldn't have possibly ended that way. U can also eliminate the time lines shown before (obviously). Eventually u should at least get close to an answer. Originally when I first watched the show I thought it was a result of tirek destroying everything because he's very capable but there was already a tirek timeline so that can't be. My next thought now is cozy glow, but that idea hadn't happened yet so the timelines could only take them to the present, not the future. You'd have to eliminate those as well. Now though, that timeline could've been a result of Starlight. If she succeeded in expanding her village to the whole of equestria, taking everypony's talents would essentially lead to trouble tending to land by farmers, trouble controlling weather, if she got to celestia and Luna the time would likely stay how it was when she took away their marks. If it stayed night then no sun would get rid of plants and food and everything. If it stayed night then this huge dryness would likely happen. I think I'm on to something here... Please make a video about this 🥺🥺🥺
3 likesI wanted a trixie Lulamoon timeline
0 likesMaybe that timeline could if grogar wasn’t defeated or if the friendship fire wasn’t even made.
0 likesOkay, if the villain version of Luna is Nightmare Moon, the villain version of Celestia is Daybreaker and the villain version of Twilight is Midnight, what would Sunset and Cadence be called. For Sunset, all they said was "she-demon". I know Cadence has never been shown like that, but still.
0 likesalso magic element was only revealed with help from main 6
0 likesOh man!
6 likesI think I know what caused the mystery timeline what if applejack turned evil in the future and caused this timeline because she does live on a farm and the timeline does look like a destroyed farm
0 likeswhat if that timeline was because of Starlight, i mean Starlight the first time
0 likesI think she destroyed the elluments of harmony with her magic
0 likesIf the mane six arent there its the same for the elements nothing for sunset to steel or gain power
0 likesHi I love your channel :3
3 likesMy head cannon proves sunset could have actually succeeded in her plan without the main six.....when the games begin sunset could meet twilight and possibly become friends.twilight could talk about the capsule thingy and sunset could steal it out of greed for power then she would destroy the human world... i hope you like my head cannon this is my first one ever! THX FOR READING
0 likeshow can she get the element in the first place if twilight never found them
0 likesWhat if Starlight didn't know sunset shimmer yet Select She wouldn't be able to call the time dimension Her winning So yeah You better believe it now
0 likesI think sunset shimmer and her zombies done this to the waste land and that she was stronger than the royal guards so there for, sunset shimmer turned every single pony into a zombie but something defended it and no zombie was left including sunset shimmer. Idk what actually happened
0 likesI LOVE MLP💖💚💙💜❤👄💋👄💋💋💋👄👄💋👄💋💋💋👄💋💋💋👄👄💋👄💋💓💕💓💕💓💕💓💕💓💕💓💓💕💓💕💓💕💓💕💓💕💓💕💕💞💕💞💕💕💞💕💞💕💞💕💞💞💕💞💕👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😻😚😗😚😗😚😗😚😗😚😚😚😚😚😚😍😘😙😚😚😚😚👍👍👍👍👍👍💕👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
8 likesThe possibility is that the ELEMENT OF MAGIC WASNT MADE
0 likesYou know it could be starlights right I meen she was a villain at some point so it only makes sense
1 likeok but that pony demon sunset shimmer design is so cool
0 likesNobody:
0 likesMe: sunset satan needs new mascara.
The last timeline is clearly the timeline where pinkies clones were never sent back into the mirror pool.
5 likesReplies (1)
@Alison H but we see pinkie pie in the chrystalis future. She's wearing all that green stuff and she's in the forest with fluttershy and zecora. So I don't think the lack of the rainboom made it impossible for pinkie to leave the rock farm. She even still has the balloon cutie mark. So she definitely threw a party that gave her that cutie mark at some point, so certain events still happen, just later.
1 likewell if they didn't meet twilight again wouldn't have met the main 6 they wouldn't have collectively found the elements of harmony one of which was twilight crown and also twilight wouldn't be a princess and sunset wouldn't know how to get the element of magic and even if she didt i dont think she wpild have the power to get it and would have no reason to go back to the pony realm but also consider twilight and sunset are ruffly the same age sunset maybe a bit older but perhaps she wouldn't have ran away to the human world or met twilight all together: 0:22
0 likesSunsets magic could have become useless as soon as she brought it back to the pony world
0 likesthe last timeline is because of all the villans attack at once I mean that first nightmare moon came and discord came and they fought and like that all the villans came and fought
0 likesWhat if it was all the badies mixed together even starlight could win because the 6 were not there to stop her and the storm king wold also played a lot of roll in it even tempest shadow could successfully win and film and flam and day breaker think about it they all tried to destroy everything and the 6 out of the way they wan. They destroyed everything one by one.
0 likesShe is my favourite character. She has to be an element of harmony. Sunset shimmer should be a princess.
6 likesReplies (2)
She's Forgiveness and Starlight is Peace.
1 like@Carmen Mercedes yes
0 likesbruh i think starlight didnt know who sunset was & thats why she didnt go back into da past of her timeline-
0 likesWait a minute? What about the other events from the equestria girls series? Like the sirens?
0 likesI think the last one was created by the victory of the shadow pony but without the mane 6 he wouldn't have came back again so I don't know but it could be the pony from luna's dreams but without the mane 6 it wouldn't have existed in the first place so I don't know. But wait it could have been if starlight herself wouldn't have been defeated that place could be the village she took cutie marks from so that is my theory
0 likesHasbro be like: I fear no man...
0 likesBut this changeling....
He scares me
EARLYyYyY
3 likeswhat if the empty timeline was made by tireck cozy glow and crysilis
0 likes(sry for spelling)
this is something to think about
But there also wouldn’t have been a element of magic because the mane 6 never met up so they wouldn’t have found the elements
0 likesReplies (1)
Umm he said that never mind
0 likesI think so Jain Rekha or Nightmare moon did this there were the powerful creatures in a question but without fore like no one to stop them
1 likeMy theory:she would have sfolen the crown but instead of being defeated she would maybe wanted to destroy twilight without her friends
0 likeseEP!
3 likesMaybe the last time line was where City glow succided or cozy glow, tirek and chrisalis
0 likesReplies (1)
Or maybe it was day breaker
0 likesThat timeline is Day Breaker's.
0 likesI know the school wasn’t made yet but the last timeline could be if cozy glow successfully removed all magic and equestria falls
0 likesMaybe the sunset shimmers timeline happen because it has happened in the same way but if spike never triped her over she able to get to the mirror again them with twilight's crown and put it on her causing her to become more powerful than ever before, then she used her powers and go to the pony world with her high school zombies and rule the pony world so maybe that timeline had to be removed from because it was too dangerous for them to go because something drastic could happen to them. At least, that's my theory
0 likesWhoever is reading this:
91 likesYour skin isn't a paper don't cut it
Your body isn't a book don't judge it
Your heart isn't a door don't lock it
Your life isn't a movie don't end it
You are beautiful and don't let anyone bring you down
Be you.. Stay safe!!💜
- love from a small youtuber
Replies (19)
Awww thanks!
4 likesOmg ❤️ I'm going to show this to all my friends
5 likes🥺
3 likesI have low self esteem. So thank you, I needed that.
7 likesReddit?
1 likeOh, thank's bot! Your a nice one.
3 likesAww, Thank you!Stay safe 💗💖💞💕
0 likesDoesn’t have anything to relate to the video....but tyyyyy
2 likes@Zinnia Editz i honestly know what it's like <3
0 likes@lazy blaze You're welcome!
1 likeOh I was about to Cut my hand 🤣
1 likeShutup let me be sad
2 likesThis is just Soo manly
0 likesOvQ
That's old
0 likes@ikky old or not it's a good message
0 likeswish i saw this yesterday :(
0 likes@The Golden Duck we have a kirishima?
0 likesMlp ...
0 likesWhat does this have to do with the video.
1 likeWhat if sunset never became evil
1 likeWAITT A SECOND, DID SUNSET EVEN EXIST AT THAT TIME
0 likesSunset would NEVER get the element of magic in the first place because twilight would have never found it.
0 likesReplies (1)
I commented this before watching the rest...
0 likesI think the last time line is what happened if starlight succeeded😲
0 likeshaha yooo
3 likesI think the last timeline is the day breaker one.
0 likesIf you don’t know this the spark is magic so she could’ve gotten the elements of harmony OK
0 likesMaby the desert is EVERY villain after they all went to war with each other
0 likesChris Cornell caused this timeline obviously.
0 likesI think it’s because she’s not canon.
6 likesReplies (3)
Bro she is-
6 likesWhat proof do you have that sunset shimmer isent Cannon
2 likes@The Anti Critic ikr
0 likesSawtooth did you forgot some Thing Sunset ask Twilight what Happens If you Take one Elemente of harmony to the human world? That means that If sunset Toke one of Them she had the Same Power as when she had the element of magic
1 likeI think you are right, but there is 1 more thing. Twighlight went to find elements without her friends but they came becouse they wonted, so if Twighlight would have go in the castle without her friends, maby she would find her element before nightmer moon camed Sunset would maby found it and take it and live to human world so then nightmer moon would came. But i dont know that is just one posibility.
0 likesI think the cause of the world is unharmony in the world. With all of the villans wanting to rule it would cause chaos in the world.
0 likesWhat about Trixie? What would happen if she was never defeated?
0 likesOk so the mirror. How did that become? And when Celestia and Luna saw it for the first time and when they knew it could be dangerus why would they not ruin or destroy the portal? That does not make any sence. If u had something laying around and you saw it was dangerous you would ruin or destroy it right?
0 likesI’ve got a new idea for your next video what if starlight glimmer and sunset shimmer were a team
0 likesIn season 9 i think it could be the villains working together but it also could be sunset shimmer
0 likesCan u talk about the last timeline who could it have been from
0 likesthat seventh future maybe the cause of all the villain's victory without the mane six to stop them it might be the cause that future
0 likesif sunset went to equestria she would be useless because the element of magic is useless with out the others
0 likeswhat if that wasteland was all the villains together
0 likesWhat if Luna had triggered celestial to become Daybreaker
0 likesSunset would never succeed because luna destroyed the elements of harmony
1 likeMy question is, why is there not a sirens timeline?
0 likesFor the wasteland I think that from the human world there is wars and everyone’s always fighting there so I think they may be replicating people that award me to have taken place in war there
0 likesBecause it's starlight starlight wants to stop time and break the element when she stopped time then Sombra crystalis cozy glow and the other villains will have a chance to destroy Equestria
0 likesThere is that golden sunset shimmer glow on the horizon as a hint to it but that might be stretching it
0 likesFlim and Flam confirmed bigger threat to Equestria than Sunset Shimmer
0 likesI think that timeline was grogars but there is a way it wouldn't happen. If gusty the great couldn't defeat him with two army's then I don't know what would happen. I could think more but that's everything I can think of
0 likesThe grey time line was probably evil celestia cause she like fire 🔥 like her
0 likesIts her name sunset so she used the sun to set on the pony Lands!!! So that's why there's lots of dust.
0 likesIsn't it funny how we didn't get a Sunset Shimmer timeline but we did get a Flim and Flam timeline?
0 likesWe didn’t see a sunset one because she was in a different dimension
0 likesIf Sunset has succesed because of Starlight, Starlight should go to the human world the time that demon Sunset was about to attack the human mane 6. Starlight should know that she cannot use her magic in that world. So she have to use a spell to stay as a pony or a magical gem allowing her to use magic. In the second when demon Sunset trows a magic ball to the mane 6, Starlight quickly trow a spell to teleport them in a far away place without nobody noticing her. Sunset tought she really kill them so she go to Equestria. Twilight couldn't go there because she is far away. Maybe the alicorns can try to beat her but they can't. The elements of harmony could of course beat her but without the element of magic and Twilight, it couldn't be possible. When Twilight came back to CHS, the portal will be already close. And she has to wait 30 moons to open. But maybe someone can secretely take the crown from Sunset's head so she detransform.
0 likesIn the Plunger seed episodeThe element of magic was already there when celestial defeated nightmare Moon so why wasn’t it there when she was defeated and there and there has to be a spark
0 likes"so a bunch of teenage zombies faced with the whole of Equestria.... Yeah they wouldn't stand a chance 😂😑😑
0 likesI think its the mean 3 time line because with out the mane 6 they would scuded and probably distroy everything
0 likesActually I think the last timeline is parasprite
1 likeWait ! Then who is the cause of the Waste land? If
0 likesit aint sunset..
what if that timeline was caused by daybreaker... i mean it could happen
0 likesOkay so in the timeline of where it doesn't show anybody else but spike and twilight and the other pony who I forgot here is what I think happened
0 likesSo as you seen the other pony already has her mark so which means twilight was already the princess and where they are standing has the map which is in the castle so maybe someone from the pony world who was evil came through the portal and they were already strong in the human world maybe when human twilight was not defeated and she came into the pony world and destroyed the pony world
I think I know why there wasn't one because twilight sparkle didn't make friends and she wouldn't get the elements of harmony so there for sunset couldn't get the crown and the elements still would still be there in the castle of the two sisters.
0 likesI think there are 7 elements when we saw the elements as stone there were six and it can't be that the 6 one was magic because when 5 were put together the element of magic come
0 likesThis is some weird thing but, if that universe was sunsets then that would bring to CHS and there would have entered the portal in the first place. But i was also thinking 🤔..what if it was grogars universe! We couldent haven seen him but it could be him & his rain of terror.
0 likesOut of the main 6 who do u think the one who is the most underrated I think its rarity
0 likesBut if the main 6 never met she never would never have got the crown from when twilight became a princess
0 likesIf the Mane 6 never got together then would be elements of Harmony never have been found again which means that sunset would have never gotten the crown which means that she would have never gotten the powers
0 likesI think I'm starlight and did this kind of timeline but she didn't have one she she just made up one and then then when she had her timeline all the villains got there their timeline but she got the element and then then the element was hidden in a secret place somewhere the element of magic I think so and my name is Alex by the way
0 likeselement of mag is useless without other elements in the pony so sunset dont be evle
0 likesCan you do a video on what caused that timeline
0 likesSame theory as you without The Rainboom without Friendship, without Friendship without Elements and without Element of Magic without Demon Sunset
0 likeswhy am i so into these videos
0 likesNow I wish we could see that.
0 likesI think that instead of twilight’s crown she would still celestia’s crown if Twilight’s was not there
0 likesBUT since twilight never goes to celestias school she never gets the so ments from the tree and never becomes a princess and there is no crown to steal so that's probably why
0 likesActually, discord can also take over equestria.
0 likesmaybe sunset did not turn evil because with out twilight the magic of friendship may not have happen and she won't even know the elements of harmony
0 likesWhen i was 10 i belived that the time line was ALL of the villians suceed and when they ALL tried to destroy eachother they destroyed world
0 likesWait how did Rainbow get her cutie mark in those timelines? If she got it from the rainboom and there was no rainboom, what event could've caused her to get it instead?
0 likesWhat if angles,demons,,wizards,witches,elfsall magical creatures,monsters and legends in equestria twilight and her friends will know they are real
0 likesWhat about the cozy glow time line?
0 likes:O WHAT IF DAYBREAKER WAS THE ONE WHO MADE THE WASTELAND! It may would have gone differently withkut the mane six keeping her under control think about A Royal Problem We can tell the sisters are equal in power in Starlights dream- And like Daybreaker said. "If Luna can turn into Nightmare Moon you can turn into me" I think that could be a possibilty. Tell me your thoughts down below. :)
0 likesIf nightmare moon didn't show up twilight would have not been given the element of magic
0 likesWhat about Daybreaker? Ik its absurd but its a possibility
0 likesWhat episode shows the time lines ?
0 likesIf the maid six are not together the elements of harmony wouldn't be as powerful as with twilight and her friends so maybe elements didn't give sunset shimmer enough power to control equestria maybe?
0 likesThat is an amazing theory
0 likesSo how does celestia and luna has the magic element
1 likeMaybe that last future was if sirenes weren't defeated
0 likesWe never saw sunsets timeline because EG was just a cash grab so they can sell barbies
0 likesAnd it's sad because i really like sunset shimmer but i mean it's kinda true
If sunset plan did work she would’ve over thrown Luna and celesta probably Sealed them away or something because I’m the back round the the sun nor the mooon is up or shining, even if you don’t see the moon or sun the sky should atlest be purple or the sky should be blue (depends on if it was night or day time) but it was just gray, in this video https://youtu.be/_Dr4r9wwJ9A sunset tried to raise the sun with celesta and she couldn’t so probably when she took over she tried to raise/Lowered the sun and ended up destroying everything and that could explain why there is no villain in that time line (because everything is gone)
0 likesif something tiny line rainbows parents not cheering her on for her achievements, she wouldn’t have been so competitive and self-absorbed, and she wouldn’t have stood up for fluttershy and would have not stood up leading to her not racing so she wouldn’t have done the rainboom therefore equestria would be a mess and the mane 6 would never come together and they would be failed and twi wouldn’t be a princess and starlight would have never taken the crown but it’s not like twilight was even a student of celestia anyways
0 likesHow come we never talked about celestia opposite
0 likesIt might be because without the main 6 there wouldn't be the harmony tree
0 likes2:24 maybe it's nightmare moon's, mystery alicorn's or pony greed universe or it's just a fallout equestria refrence
0 likesthats sunset shimmers time line i think heres the reason
0 likesthe mane six on that world has been gone and maybe sunset shimmer trapped them some where or buried them
plus the sunset has been discorted so sunset shimmer as a villian made it like it plus the sun is gone and the moon to!?
Maybe she took the 5 elements at the castle of the two sisters but she got overthrown by the other villains than she failed
0 likesUmm sawtooth....you made a mistake.....sunset never existed in equestria...so how do you know what sunset looked like?
0 likesYk, Sunset would never even leave Equestria if Twilight wasn't there
0 likesSunset will be useless with out twilight’s element
0 likesI think the waste land was made by grogar
1 likeHell na if sunset could have just goes to the old castle of the two royal sister she would get the last easily because the magic spark was on top of the thing that was holding the old forms of the elements of harmony
0 likesBut as in any other realm in mlp.
0 likesEvery world has each charecter identical
Body. so we need to find from which world sunset is .as if she is from pony.
Then there will be her equestria version to living in human world.
Im pretty sure it was demon sunset dat made the desert timeline.
0 likesYeah but if the rainboom didn't happen twilight and her friends wouldn't of got there cutiemark and the crown wouldn't be here it'll still be in the old castle probably destroyed which means sunset can't of put it on the portal what means there isn't any chance sunset transformed in to a she demon.
0 likesWhen Sunset Shimmer defeated nightmare Sparkle she got wings and a horn I think she is the next princess of the sun!!
0 likesMaybe she was a pony back then and didn't even know if the mirror or the elements
0 likesWhat would happen if all of equestria went to the human world? What disaster could occur?
0 likes(edit)oh wait you just said that
1 likeumm actually the element of magic wasnt activated in the very first episode because twillight needs friends
It could’ve been TRECSucking every ounce of magic out of the world leaving nothing
0 likesMaybe she’s just invisible
0 likesThe cause of that timeline was that someone developed a atomic bomb. (sarcasm)
0 likesMaybe because they don't wanna spoil the Movie/Episode(s)
0 likesMaybe Starlight team up with Sunset and kidnapped the mane 6 when they were kids.
0 likesI think it’s because if you only look at the main series, sunset isn’t ever mentioned. She’s barely canon
0 likesSunset shimmer and daybreaker,
0 likesI think they are some how connected or something like that?
Could I ask for a video on this?
That spell that Sterling knows obviously is a big mature little practice that were sunset obviously it would take minutes to try since getting the right timeline of your right present of these for the beginning of it because everyone knows they have to search by the beginning I guess you have a point obviously and two that's all I got for you my name is Alicia inside you might want to see someone comments about it for the way you know so and also I like your video you're not bad honestl💙💛❤️👌🏻🏵️🌸🌊🌬️
0 likessawtooth waves can you do a vid about if the main six were not even born I want to know what could of happened
0 likesWAIT WAIT WAIT! If Sunset didn't make that wasteland, what happened??
1 likeone way or another sunset would have never won
0 likesOr the 7th timeline could be cozy glow's
0 likesI think that she would of succeeded because she DIDN’T want the crown. She wanted power. The crown was what she found but she could of found something even more magical. idk tho
1 likeI think the wasteland is the result of the Stormking
0 likeswhat if it was the pony of shadow's timeline
0 likesRainbow dash could have done two double rainbooms in a row
0 likesCan you do a video on what caused the wasteland
0 likesSunset shimmer was wearing the crown but the crown helped the mane 6 to defeated her so she cod not have won even if twilight and her friends didn't defeat her
0 likesShe wouldn't be here bc the whole reason why sunset entered the human world was bc Celestia sent her there bc of envy but since twilight was never met the human world was never to be discovered and sunset remaind in equestria still with princess Celestia and I clear till there XD plus maybe there was going to be another version of sunset who would find the Portal and come to equestria trying to take the elements and instead of bullying them would bring them together and the human rwilight and the other human ponys would find the elements thus giving her the magic anyways hope u think this is okay to fit bye love your vids
0 likesThe rainboom grew the grass so if it didn't happen the grass wouldn't grow
0 likesSo if sunset didn’t cause the 7th timeline then what or who did
0 likesI think the last one is the grogar timeline
0 likesWait how would sunset of got the element of magic if their was no one to bare it
0 likesMaybe the pony who caused the wast land was cozy glow
0 likesAnother reason for there not being a Sunset Shimmer Alternate Universe is, it just wouldn't be possible for that to happen. If the Mane 6 never met then there wouldn't be The Elements Of Harmony. So sunset Shimmer would never of been able to take it in the first place. Resulting in no evil sunset to the alternate universe and making a zombie Apocalypse. (Sorry for my English It's not my home language)
0 likesI mean um how should I say this……….
0 likesIf Sunset Shimmer had a mane 6 instead of Twilight then she could be the new Princess of Friendship
But Hasbro Never let her?
sunset destroyed the mlp universe or maybe all ponys go to the eqestria?
0 likesWhat about the villain in forgotten friendship?
0 likesmaybe it was Trixie when she had the amulet
0 likesMy head cannon is all the villans have attacked equestria and that was what happened after all the villans have attacked equestria?
0 likesIts Just my Idea but maybe the Grey world could be If they didnt Stop the stormking 🤔🙂 i Like this Videos 😀
0 likeswhat if the burned timeline was daybraker
0 likesOkay but the equestria girls dolls looked like they were about to die.
0 likesI think that the cause of the last timeline is because all of the bad guys were at once with no mane 6 to help them… it would be chaos! There would be a war with every treat, and celestia’s army too! The war would end up with a wasteland. At least that’s what I’ve grown to believe…😅
0 likesif they didn't get together it will still be in the Castle she can't find it
0 likesMaybe if Sunset met friends discover elements and either she betray them or they betray her so she would go to human world come back and steal element and destroy equestria. Or better if she replace Twilight and become evil and then destroy equestria
0 likesMeet me at sunsets time and she destroyed it by just what she was doing
0 likesMaybe its the final battle equestria didn't succeed without Twilight and her friends! Just an option
0 likesIt's because... Sunset will not know about the elements of harmony... If she even know about it she will never know where there were
0 likesIf the rain boom didn't happened twilight didn't got her cutie mark and she didn't got her crown so sunset didn't got her crown .so this means evil sunset shimmer wasn't formed .
1 likeI think there wasn't a sunset shimmer time-line because it was from the human world not equestria
0 likesWhat if it is the real grogar?
0 likesI thought that the end timeline happened because of flim and flam destroying Equestria with machinery. They went to far and then poof everything was bad and then everything died or disappeared elsewhere.
0 likesShe could’ve gotten friends, oh wait she doesn’t have any
0 likesOh shoot your Indigenous! That's so cool!
0 likesThe last one could possibly be day breaker or equestria girls twilight
0 likesI think the empty world timeline is the pony of shadows maybe
0 likesSunset wouldnt have even done this because if the main six were never together then twilight would have never founded the elements of harmony so sunset shimmer would have never even gotten the crown thus equestria girl would've never happened
0 likesI think it's because thats a Eqestria Girls Movie and not the classical My little Pony, cause there just a short time in the Pony Eqestria and after the Crown was stolled Twilight was in the Human Eqestria and Sunset dont know when the portal opened.
1 likeMaybe Sunset Shimmer wasn't there in 1 of the timelines because she was reformed or at least try to reform.
0 likesI don't understand Sawtooth that just don't make sense at all what will happpened to main 6 but there no timeline, how is there no timeline of her winning if she won what will happened to main 6 if they lose the fight to Sunset Shimmer but there biggest mistake is that Twilight become a princess of friendship that just too much for me if I was there holding the crown I'll be handed the princess of friendship if that happened to her will I feel bad for Sunset that why I'm strongest one alive still but...is this really true if there no timeline of Sunset Shimmmer winning I don't really see it at all but...that all I can tell. but what if Twilight wasn't the princess and the rainboom didn't happen in the first place and Sunset didn't become envy in the first time.What if Celestia was right in the first place about what happened to Sunset Shimmer will that all I'm telling now also I like your videos Sawtooth Waves bye!!! :D
1 likeI like your theory here.
0 likesWhat if that was the future that star lite created with out cutemarks there would be no food the animals would die and ovanchily the pony's would die
0 likesShe still can do it because they aren't the oregenl main 6
0 likesI think you cood talk about applejacks element of harmony because she has the only element of harmony that has two colors
1 likeReplies (1)
Well apples are red and green
0 likesMaybe the barren time is a dead equestria.
0 likesMy idea on the barren waste land is it us what would of happened if cozy glow had succeeded in draining magic from equestria, equestria needs magic.
0 likesShe never would have gotten the element of magic without twilight so this is pointless
0 likesWait then what is the wasteland timeline?how did it happen
0 likesOkay but if Sunset Shimmer didn't cause that we're dead timeline what did. could you defend a timeline all of it happen because in all the other timelines 1 villain one but if that dead timeline is where every single villain succeeded in their goal and then all fought that would cause a cat to drink event that would wipe out the entirety of Equestria
0 likesI think that she was in that future, because there is no sun or a moon. Its look like sunset or sunrise when Starlight and Twilight were in there
0 likesDidn't get sunsets timeline because the mane six weren't together so twilight wouldn't have been a princess
0 likesWhat if it is Sunset because if you see in the back you can see there is a Sunset so maybe sunset use Magic to go there in that timeline
0 likesBut aren't the guard's always on break-
0 likesMaybe sunset shimmer turned into a she deman after starlight realised that she is doing a big mistake
0 likesBut I thought that was the future of starlight glimmer's doing
0 likesThen u should Make a video on what if midnight sparkle wasn't defeated
1 likewhat if that last one was starlight?
0 likesI have a question what if Sunset Shimmer is a princess I think she will be powerful than Twilight Sparkle 🙂
1 likeNo offence but Sunset would never have won if the main 6 never met because if the main 6 never met then the elements if harmony would still be the stone spheres we see Twilight in the middle of in the 2nd episode in season 1. And because of this then the elements wouldn't have been made into the necklaces or crown therefore Sunset wouldn't have gotten the crown resulting in her never turning into a "daging she demon".
0 likesHe could have made us like this like child sparkle how did he ever think of that
0 likesWhat if without the main six discord would win against celestia and luna
0 likesThere was already a tirek timeline.
0 likessunset was not there because she needed twilghts elemet
0 likesI like that I think like you, it's warmth my inside theorist.
0 likesA problems with this the rainbow never happened so twilight never got her cutie mark that man is the friendship of magic never happened so how would she get the French of a magic if there was no fracture of a magic
0 likesit couldn’t work because she had her crown
0 likesWhat if starlight made a timeline where sun shut couldn’t Twilight couldn’t come and sun shirt meMate exact copy but I don’t have all the powers then she could make a Questria to dust
0 likesSteals the crown and wins
1 likeI’am from the Future..
0 likes" G5 is gonna be Shown "
How about if it comes the 5 royal sisters with sunset shimmer and flurry heart and twilght wait I have an idea maybe first Celestia rises the sun and maybe sunset rises the sunsets and then maybe luna will rise the moon then twilght rises the twilghts and then flurry heart rises the hearts and her mom as well
1 likeIf they won't be friends there will be no elements of harmony
0 likesIt's a zombie run for your lives.
0 likesif u seen the backgrounf when chrysalis and zecora was fighting a changeling was killed watch it i saw it
0 likesit could be day breaker tbh
0 likesNgl I think this is a really cool theory.
1 likebut if there are no mane six there will be no elements right? then how would sunset shimmer get the magic element so there will be no demon sunset
0 likesBecause Sunset wouldn't have a Crown to make her powerful because the mane six didn't exist
0 likesshe needed the crown and if twilight n the others werent friends the crown wouldnt exist
0 likesYeowch look at that racial hierarchy in the patreon tiers
0 likesIf the rain boom had not happened then twighlite would not be princess the Elements were in canterlot well the mirror was in the crystal empire so was she but if the rain boom had not happens she and the elements and her friends would not be there sunset would have no reason to go to equestria in the first place
0 likesReplies (1)
Although this does split like there are other reasons she came to equestria like for princess celestia or any other reasons
0 likesCan you make a video,reviewing the music video,ALL GOOD CUZ SUNSET WINKED THEN SUDDENLY FLASH GOES CRAZY,(not really crazy)
0 likeschangelings are the new equestrians.
0 likesAlicorn Sunset Shimmer theory video: Princess of Harmony (yin yang cutiemark sunset version omg!!!)
1 likeSawtooth I think that part was GROGAR'S future!!!!
0 likesI think that land of nothing was the villains war... maybe all the villains clashed and killed each other?
0 likesWhen i heard the question of what lead up to the waste land time line i thiught it kinda looks burned then i thiught what can bur stuff dragon in the episode were smolder and spike do the dragon race what if smolder dint win wat if that Red dragon won. sorry i dont realy now the names very well. he waned to bur the ponies what if an entier armi of dragon fought the ponies and we nouw how massive dragon can be and the emense fire power they have
0 likesi know this is late but i think the waste land is what pony vile would look like if cozy glow t reik and chrisley took over (sorry for the bad grammer)
0 likesThe wasteland another thing the main six had to face was when the Tree of harmony like had all these vines on then there fore the wasteland
0 likesWould sunset even gotten the crown
0 likesWharf she took all the elements and gained each power?
0 likesIDK........BUT I THOUGHT OF GIVING MY SUGGESTION OF THE COMMENTS..........ACTUALLY A QUESTION !!................THAT IS........,SUNSET IS ORIGINALLY A PONY......FROM EQUESTRIA THEN WENT TO THE HUMAN WORLD .WHERE IS THE REAL SUNSET(I MEAN,THE REAL HUMAN VERSION OF SUNSET).......TWILIGHT HAD ONE.......SO CAN SUNSET........RIGHT?WHAT DO U THINK......
1 likeId guess starlight was the cause
0 likesI think Sunset Cinema if I need to go so he lost it yes
1 likeHow did celestia get the element of magic to banish nightmare moon wen the element of magic were hidden
0 likesHow did sunset fine the ultimate universe of pony and humans, how did she known about the mirror to bring her to the pony universe.
0 likesI was shouting if twilight is not ever a princes then how could sunset get her crown and be the demon thing i was litterly shouting🤣
0 likesWrong bc if the main 6 haven't met no elements for sunset to take
0 likesMaybe Equestria will be distant grey country
0 likesWith out the main 6 meeting twilight would not become an alicorn and with her becoming an alicorn sunset would not get the twilights crown that’s why we didn’t see a sunset timeline
0 likesWait sunset shimmer was mean at first then she became nice but I think she has still have the bad magic in side of her she must have went to the time line and changed it because sometimes she mean she must have been trying to keep the magic in side of her so one day she would roll the world with so much magic to beat the ponies
0 likesThere will be no crown, Celestia. Because Night mare moon deport her. And Twilight will never get her crown. Without the crown, Sunset will never jealous of that. But your videos are great.
0 likesHey man sunset is from the human world but if she does some how to the pony world she will not be able to deal with celestia
0 likesActually your theory about HAL sunset shimmer and I’m sorry I can’t remember his name but that other guy are related and are brother and sister that bro that brother told sunset shimmer about the new princess she got an idea two feel the element of magic that wouldn’t of happened if there was no new princess 👑
1 likeWhat if the fourth timeline was discords timeline
0 likesI'm an earth pony y'know. My character on mlp is an earth pony. But i've make it as an pegasi and an alicon and an unicorn.
0 likesAnd that was before the main six met!!!
1 likeI have a question. where is the starlight glimmer timeline
0 likeswhat if that time line is Grogars and the others timeline
0 likesDiscord rip the world into a madding bit of chaos and then the world exploded
0 likesI think it was all the villains
1 likeWhat if sunset shimmer never existed in my Little pony
0 likesWhere discord clear out everything starting with nightmare moon lol
0 likesDo videos called if midnight sparkle wasn't defeated and glorisa
2 likesSunset = fire. That timeline = ASH GROND. Fire = Ash???
0 likesI think sunset took over equestria and Pony Life
0 likesmy theory could they be a season 10
0 likesWhat if sunset shimmer never existed in the human world
0 likesi think she wasn't a thing back in those days, like literally writers didn't create the character
0 likesIf sunset shimmer wasn't defeated then she wouldn't be the person/pony she is now. The future would be totally different. Sunset would have conquered Equestria. Do you think she would have conquered the human world too?
0 likesThe elements won't be there as never awakened
0 likesWhta if discord came back again and Celestia and Luna used it and then discord was stone again and sunset came back and took the elements of harmony cuz we know in the past celestia and Luna where connected to it so sunset would of stole it and put it on and got the power of the element of harmony
0 likesBecause she didn’t do it midnight sparkle did because she wake in the end of rainbow rocks twilight show up and then said she was going through time travel stuff that was a crazy the first crazy thing she ever saw so I think that was the episode were still like Weimer went back in time to stop them from eating and I think that one that the one where everything is destroyed timeline from strawlike glimmer is that when will the time that timeline She she at least succeeded and got to the portal well she broke the wall and broke the Equestria girls world and he succeeded I don’t know Ha ha ha what did she do but I don’t know that might be her but it’s just theory
0 likesI think all the villains made it
0 likesSunset wouldn’t be able to get the crown since twilight wouldn’t have the crown,
0 likeswhat if (and hear me out) the 6th element dint ecsist cause the mine 6 dint ecsist
0 likesWhat would happen
0 likesIf Cozy Glow wasn’t Defeated
either way it wouldn't have happened the main six wouldn't have met so twilight wouldn't have gotten the crown and it would have still been in the castle of the two sister's
0 likesI know I can trust him
1 likeThe only way sunset could have gotten the crown was only because of the main 6 so my guess was she didn’t have the crown
0 likesbut how would she get the crown
0 likesWe didn’t get it because she never got twilight’s crown
0 likesSunset could have succeeded if the whole rainboom thing still happened, but she didn't wake twilight when she stole the crown.
0 likesIf the mane six was just enjoying the party she could win
0 likesI think that she did another way because there was also magic in the other world and their are copies of like the pony's applejack rainbow dash and yady yady yada what if it also copied the elements I hope this was a good thought for you.
0 likesi love this
0 likesDude you talk about the timeline so much that it ripped apart your other timeline theories
0 likesHey!! The profecy said 'will cause the sixth element to be revealed'! Jk, but it really said that.
1 likesunset couldn't take over equestria bc the rainboom didn't happen bc twilight never became princess so sunset coukdn't get the element
0 likesWhat about daybreaker she mightve done it
0 likesSunset did make that Wasteland should I have a reason why because she was jealous of Starlight Glimmer because she had a best friend and she didn't so she told her to leave destroy the land and everyone ran away so now it's just a wasteland😨
0 likesIt has to be sunset because the last motive showed a sunset so it has to be sunset
0 likesExplore the Chris list time line
0 likesIf there’s no twilight sparkle there will be no Evil sunset because Will be still will be Celestia’s best student
0 likes… it’s not that it’s because there was no crown to be made because they weren’t there.
1 likeThat is scaring me right now 😳😫
0 likesIT HAS TO BE DEMON SUNSHINE SHIMMER IF NOT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT CAUSED THAT WASTELAND
0 likesSORRY FOR BEING SOOO EARLY!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesOh well I know everything about my little pony
0 likesI have a theory that the wasteland is cozy glows timeline.. but idk reply if you have a better idea
0 likesi think did not show her time line because she won because if you watch the video you’ll see the screen goes white so maybe they teleport into a dream and Sunset won and now they are living this Imagine World
0 likesEven tho Im really really late
0 likesThere was no magic in the highschool world cause Twilight never had frinds or became celestia's student that means there was no magic of friendship and no princess of magic of friendship so the crown didnt exist. Even is sunset came to get them their selves there is no proper magic in it :DD so thats why there was no sunset shimmer :DD
If the reanboom was stoppet the elements wud stil be in the everfreeforest and sunset kud have not turnd into a demon in the first Place so she wud not have a timeline 🙃🙂🙃🙂
0 likesdecepticons invade equestria
0 likesi don't think it would of happened at all cuz twilight would have to be in the crystal empire
0 likesI just I think that sunset went through the portal
0 likesI wish I had 10 bucks so I could buy the unicorn teir
0 likesDaybreaker cause the empty timeline repeat Daybreaker cause the empty car Timeline
0 likesIf the element of magic haven’t exist why sunset will do that?
0 likesSunflare Shimmer (demon Sunset)
0 likesI belive that sawtooth is right
0 likesi think that last timeline is daybrakers
0 likesI think that multi verse is done by grogar
0 likeswelll twilight wouldntve been a princess so sunset wouldntve been able to steal the crown
0 likesOh that timeline is gonna be the village up that evil unicorn in the past
0 likesI think that sunset was the princess old student all though she abandoned her studies I think she may not read the book but I looked at that one with flash century maybe he would of told sunset shimer since you said maybe the go in the portal to discuss what has an update and what doesn’t but I think that if twi life had never came I think sunset would have totally keep the six in human world apart like with rainbow dash rarity pinkie pie and the others so sunset could have had them in zombie form and they have night went through but I think you can be right but I also think if twi life and the others in the pony world have never met I think they would have been useless to the pony world and then sunset might get a little to much
0 likesYoshi darklord is a legend
0 likesSpeaking after the make ur mark show
0 likesMaybe the 7 one was magic drained
So many bad things have happened that it made that I'm alive
0 likesMaybe cozy glow is the wasteland timeline
0 likesMaybe because sunset couldn’t steal the crown as there was no twilight
0 likesBut why did sunset's name dont changed it should be changed when she become a demon
0 likesit could be starlight
0 likesMaybe Sunset Shimmer more evil Wasteland desert?: princess Celestia decided to defeat Sunset Shimmer with the Elements of Harmony: May sunset Shimmer stool all the elements
0 likesI havent watch the vid but the elements where never formed
0 likesMy take on the barron wasteland timeline is that all the supervillians declared war on each other and destroyed everything and everyone in their way.
0 likeswhat if sunset never became jealous and instead of trying to go to the human world what if she made friends and she became the
0 likeselements of magic and she wold have become an alacorn and have been a sussor of prencess celestia and prencess luna
and could twilight pass her magic school enter exam and never became the princess of frendship
theory: bomb exploded
0 likesIt's Fallout Equestria!
0 likesMaybe twi demon made the wasteland by destroying the two World
0 likesCristal empire, crysalis, sombra and discord turn's into a demons
0 likesI don't think we can see her in the pony world at all
0 likesWait nightmare moon was trapped in the moon how was she back I think Sunset shimmer let her free she must have been going to the moon then let her free then she stole the crown so I think that's how it happens when nightmare moon was defeated and sunset shimmer was angery that nightmare moon has defeated so she went there and tried to have so much power to roll the World but the poneys defeat her but she was nice again but or she has been faking I don,t know if that's true but that's all I have for now
0 likesI think Sunset Shimmer was the cause
0 likesi don't need to hate but if the main sex hadn't met wouldn't the elements wouldn't exist i mean yes they were stone but nightmare moon couldn't destroy them i mean if they haven't met maybe the crystals wouldn't exit conduct crystal were only loyal to the people they represent the element or maybe between sunset shimmer attack in canterlot high maybe that didn't happen yet in the timeline
0 likesWhat about Friendship Games she could have stole the amulet at transform
0 likesThe crown wouldn’t have existed at all.
0 likesBecause if the rainboom didnt happen, twilight wont be a princess. She would be something else by stealing princess celestia or luna’s crown so ya....period
0 likesIf it wasn’t for twilight wouldn’t the crown not be there
0 likesMaybe Because Twilight did not become princess celestia student and she didn't know about the sixth element so there's no reason for her to take over Equestria
0 likesYeah but that timeline can be tireks
0 likeswhat if wen starlight stoped the rainboom then twilight wouldnt get the elements of harmony and then sunset shimer woudnt go to the pony world becqause their wasnt the elemnts of harmony thats wy we didnt see the sunset timeline 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
0 likesthat would be very bad that sunset shimmer will take over equestria.
0 likeschangelings are the new ponies.
0 likesI think that waste land was grogar
0 likesSunset became a demon alicorn.
0 likesIf twighlight had no friends no crown no crown no evil demon sunset
0 likesThe only reason why sunset with Roku cuz she was jealous of Twilight if Twilight didn't get her kind of Mark she wouldn't have been into celestia's stuff so then she can't be jealous so then she'll be nice and she can't take over the human world and that deserted world is when all the villains teamed up and destroyed ponyville
0 likesSunset is nice now.
0 likesit would only affect the pony world we have no idea if the human twilight still me the rest sunset could of never went to the human world
0 likesWhat if sunset shimmer never went that far because the reason for that is that is mabey she got jelly of tewighlight getting all the attention and if that’s the case twighlight would never be in magic schoole if rainbow didn’t do the Sonic rainbom
0 likesIt could not be sunset but it could be storm king
0 likesI love your videos
0 likeswow. this is a head scracher?
0 likesI love your videos
0 likesHad you heard of dv he is a youtuber and he has 3 channel's
0 likesCongrats on 400k
0 likesBut if there was just one rainboom were did the other mane sixes come from?
0 likesI think it was the king in the movie maybe
0 likesI knew that from the very start
0 likesor maybe its not canon idk just a theory
0 likesActually the seventh timeline is if starlight wasn't deafeted no hate but wat if sunset didn't attack equestria
0 likesThat is the cause of the pony of shadows
0 likesSunset cant get the ELEMENT haha!!!!
0 likesWHY DID YOU NOT PIN ME IM SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO EARLY;/
0 likesBut then what was that wasteland of nothingness????????🤔🙄
0 likesDemon Sunset is Nightmare Moon Pony Fire Hair Like Daybreaker And Cutie Mark
0 likesYou are absolutely wrong this timeline has been created by all it is the timeline will this continue specialist broker and other equestria will be like this timeline
0 likesIts because it was made before the movie
0 likesBecause she done nothing evil in the pony world because she used the crown to go to the other world and it was only show pony’s and she didn’t go to the pony world when she was a demen and that’s like the only evil evil thing she did
0 likesand you are the new twilght sparkle toot.
0 likesI think the old starlight gimmer did this bad world
0 likesOML
0 likesIM WAYY TO EARLY EKKKK:O
Celestial in my opinión turn into into a demonic versión of her. because sunset Satán that's sunset shimer try to demonised and luna to
0 likesWhat sunset shimmer did she went into the time when rainbow – made room and then stopped her tried to stop them from even getting cutie marks and making friends that could not get that they would’ve just not get the cutie be friends friends but they won’t get there cutie marks that don’t have cutie blocks
0 likesPony Demon sunset looks like daybreaker
0 likesequestrai would be nothing because nightmare moon would have took over
0 likesSun set looks like Teas Bad sister
0 likesequestria girls isn't canon :)
0 likesI would never have wanted too do that
0 likesWhat if demon twilight was not defeated
0 likes3:03 there it is
1 likeWhat if absorbed powerful magic and became so powerful that I could destroy equestia, I would like that so much😈😈😈
0 likesEhem, twilight wouldn’t be a princess heck she wouldn’t even pass that big test that she had! So she wouldn’t even be a student at celestias school of magic….
0 likessimple no mane 6 no princess twilight no princess twilight no crown to steal no going to a diff universe no devil sunset BOOM SOLVED
0 likesI think cozy glow did all yhe destruction you saw how dangerous she is
0 likesthe pony of shadows
0 likeseso es inutil si la serie ya se acabo
0 likesSoo what happend if cozy glow wasn't defeated will she be an alicorn ?
0 likesMay be midnight sparkle did it
0 likesno twilght no crown simple
0 likesYou are wrong. If twilight never met her friends she wouldn't become a princess therefore the element of magic would never be in sunset's grasp.
0 likesHi I'm sunset I'm watching this love the channel
0 likesMaybe sunset just born every thing
0 likesBut all the elements together make magic soooo sunset could just take all the elements and that would be magic...OH that would be friendship but she dosent want that ohhhhhh
0 likesIt was because T rex T rex came here she must’ve drained every mass magic van every penny would be week one pre-Christmas came Wednesday and the magic that the ponies cream Christmas and have drained the love
0 likesWithout money can i support this channel by joining instead? XD i have soooooo many mlp theories... And honestly you would be able to make twice as many videos you have now with "part 2"s as well. I've wanted to make my own videos but i am not great at that sort of thing. Honestly i would be better teaming up with someone that already does videos!^^ (and im not just offering cuz i am broke or cuz i want to make videos) but i honestly do feel like it would help the mlp fandom stay alive if there were more theory videos that people can watch and maybe make their own fanfictions from. And the longer you have MLP theory videos the longer the MLP fandom will be for people who write and create characters based off of said theories!! And the more people that are there that could help or brainstorm a theory or two means more theory videos over long periods of time! Heck.. if I can't help at least let me give you some ideas haha..
0 likesmaybe it was cozy glow
0 likesReason: sorry guys, sunset shimmer's a movie exclusive!
0 likesStraight was shown after sunset in mlp
0 likesHmmmm idk maybe Sunset shimmer had a evil dad and mom? I don’t know
0 likesDAYBREAKER!!!
0 likesbut also it probably didnt exist because sunset went after the crown, if twilight and her friends never met she wouldnt have gotten the crown and her turning into a she-demon have never happend
0 likesI don’t think that that desolate reality was the one that Sunset universe no no I’ve been taught that reality I was one where none of the villains were defeated and all of them wrecked havoc
0 likesIt's because. If the main sex never met the Elements of Harmony will never unlock the sixth Element so sunset will never have twilight's crown that the sex Element is on it so she cant be a damon
1 likemaybe sunset burned up equestria i mean cuz she does have a sun as her cutie mark
0 likesWhat song is that please?
0 likesI think so they both an to their true forms and their super powerful and I don't know what happen without them in elements of harmony I think so the elements bro
1 like2:22 Its was ThAnOz :0 (Aka Big Purple Guys with a Golden Glove and jolly ranchers in the glove)
0 likesIt couldn’t of been sunset shimmer because F if twilight wasn’t there then The elements of harmony wouldn’t be there either because the crown wouldn’t of gone on twilight Head and the crown one of even been there
0 likes<am I famous [yes]<>[no]
0 likesIt could have bean a infestation Of the para sprites
0 likesWell if twilly didint exist and didint became a princess then sunset didint have the crown so she didint become that demon
0 likesI think the rainbow happens they beat nightmare but she doesn't human so she
1 likeK but why is nobody talking about if trixie wasn’t reformed if she wasn’t reformed and still had the alicorn amulet this means she could be powerful enough to destroy some of equestria
0 likesHave you ever read a comment and just went like
1 likeI wish I made that
what if sci - flash meet flash
0 likesI don’t think the Crown would be there........ for her to take................
0 likeswell she was so its just something your gon haveta assept
0 likesIt’s because there wouldn’t be a crown to take
0 likesWhen you want to turn on subtitles but ur on mobile and used to PC:
0 likes😭😭😭🤔🤔😒😭😭😌🥺🥺😭😭
(I found out so don't tell me again)
Grogar made that wast land
0 likesWhere was sunset shimmer all through mlp fim anyways
0 likesSure...Victory.
0 likesHi I love this video I'm holly and I left a like and join your channel I love my little pony and I have autism
0 likesWhat if sunset shiner did do that
0 likesA I love you episode though knee
0 likesIf it did happen then how or what is the case of the waste land
0 likesEvil villains.
0 likesWell if the main six weren't there there would be no crown so she dosent exist
0 likesIt's midnight sparkle wich caused the wasteland
0 likeswaıt dıd you see sunsets zombıes and sombras? there,s a connecıon!
0 likesMoon dancer's evil
0 likeshives are new castles
0 likesAnd it turn into a war
0 likesThe end of the earth maybe
0 likesI think it was the dazzlings
1 likeMany this is the future and this was cozy glow
0 likesMaybe its because sunset wanted be the new ruler of equestria and I dad thinking ir más celestia 's adult in one of the comics of IWD ABOUT MLP TELL something about sunset history
0 likesReplies (2)
It was celestia 's fault
0 likesIts in one of the comics
0 likesThere wouldn't have been a crown
0 likescan you do why mac does not talk please
0 likesbecause it is of another dimension
0 likesIn which season this happened
0 likesI agree with you
0 likesWitch episode is that
0 likesThere would not be crown to steal-
0 likesBro I just commented about the sunsets plan and AFTER I POSTED OT YOU SPOKE ABOUT IT LMAO
0 likesShe didb't show up bc if the rainboom thing wouldnt happen twilaight wouldt nrver had the element
0 likesOr what about celestial and luna
0 likesCozy Glow
1 likeSunset the monster unicorn.
0 likesUhh you know idk if that would happen at all bc they did not meet so none of this would happen
0 likesI know I’m late but I think the time line were everting is a wasteland is a daybreaker time line but of course we didn’t get to see daybreaker
0 likesyou saying that why didnt we see sunset take over my little pony equestria because for the mean time in the human world they we're doing friendship games😀😀
0 likesHow did it become wast land
0 likesoh mahgod its a apochalips
0 likesI think it was sun set shimmer
0 likesShe has never seen equetria
0 likesWell thats becouse without tye friends the crown wouldnt exist easy explainaition
0 likesFirst how come sunset be come a semen when she put on the crown of magic second how come the girls did not be come teenage zombie
0 likesI one comic say something about sunset shimer history
0 likesMabey the rain boom not happening would stop sunset but what’s holding midnight sparkle back
0 likesI think that's sunset shimmer burn that please because she have on her tail I think
0 likesLaby it is sunset and she did it by make a bast that made the main 6 week
0 likes❤️
0 likes❤️
0 likesMight Mare Noon ?
0 likesI am Mario please call me Alex:
1 likeshe need twi is crown duh
0 likesAll the bad guys made the last one
0 likesMonster alicorn.
0 likesI think its midnight sparkle
0 likesHim why was there no sunset shimmer au
0 likesMe because they hadn't made the character yet
Ummmmmm..... If their wasn't a mane six, then how would the elements of harmony even get activated? People. Why are the villain's mad at equestria? because of the mane six. Just saying whoops didn't even see the end of the video dumb me
0 likesUse the other element s
0 likesThe elements weren't found at all
0 likes💜WOAH💜
1 likeI think that the last one is.
0 likesOh and that was posted halfway through the video
0 likesThere is twilight s twin twivine
0 likesIn-house she could I don’t know find a spell to make the element a friendship go back where nobody know that sorry I should I go
0 likesSunset shimmer is in the other universe and there only one sunset simmer so her home is in other universe
0 likesNot sun set shimmer night mare moon!🏴☠️
0 likesYou are reallyyyy smart🤓
0 likesYes but she nice now
0 likesI love Alison's
0 likesI belive it was falout equestria timeline
0 likesWhat bout stars swirl
0 likesif sunset shimmer wasn't defeated i thing it is starligh glimmer
0 likesUmm if mane 6 didn’t meet there is no elements so no
0 likesWhen someone says flimflam
0 likesIt reminds me of the roblox youtuber
Flamingo cuz his username is mrflimflam
All the friends.
0 likesAre doing
Magic. To
Win
Replies (2)
Dbfbbx
0 likesWhat time is it
Nvcb
0 likesBecause it was only show pony’s and she not really apart of the pony’s
0 likesThey were shown and she wasn't
0 likesStarlight
1 likeyes yay yes yes yay thank everyone for your birthday thank everyone for the offer I please please thank you for the invite thank everyone for the invite please please come over for a couple hours thank everyone for your prayers thank everyone for the offer I hope you’re doing ok bye thank everyone for the offer thank everyone for the offer I appreciate you thank everyone for your offer I hope you’re doing ok bye thank everyone for the offer thank everyone for your offer thank everyone for the offer I appreciate it thanks bye
0 likesUMM COZY GLOW!?!?!?
0 likesYes:no no:yes
0 likesWe all know who caused that time line statlight glimmer
0 likesWhat happens to sun set
0 likesI think it's nightmare sunset not demon sunset shimmer no hate by the way
0 likesMy little pony is just my little pony wants so important about that
0 likes💫
0 likesHi i was fan when i was little i came to youre chanel
0 likesHow about midnight sparkle
0 likesEvil sunset shimmer was a dictator.
0 likesI like the crippy music
0 likesBecause their was no crown
0 likes☀
0 likesI think it's sunset
0 likesOr sunset could make a blast and make everything bad and destroyed and Brocken
0 likesMy mlp avatar can drestroy sunsetshimmer evil demon.
0 likesMy mlp is the element/princess pf life and dead ...sow ...😎
alll of them !
0 likesGrogar???
1 likeWhy do you 🤦🏻♀️ for like one or two names?
0 likesMonster pony ahhh.
0 likesSand demon chimer
0 likesI love your theary
0 likesStormkig kant attack
0 likesCogy glow
0 likesI thing that twilit from the human world did this as sun set did not be come good and she came to the pony world and yeah
0 likesI think she was not there
1 likeI want to be the unicorn I mean I want to be the princess one can I join your group unicorn self cleaning
0 likesI🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰your videos
0 likesDo rainbow dash vs foal face
1 likeSpeaking of the Element of Magic, why did it turn Sunset Shimmer into a demon? Based on her expression before and after the transformation, she didn't expected it to happen. Maybe because humans have some kind of magic of their own or the Element was somehow accidentally corrupted? We see the Elements "glow" black when the tree is attacked by Chrysalis' clones so maybe it's some sort of magical defense mechanism? Who knows!
2 likesHi Sawtooth! i have a BIG question. We all know Side-Twi hasn’t really mastered friendship to be able to become an alicorn, and we know she’s a unicorn when she went through the portal. BUT, she had WINGS in the human world when she ponied-up. can you make a theory of this PLEASE? Thanks!
2 likesOoooooh, love this— especially your analysis on how Sunset couldn't have gotten ahold of the Magic of Friendship!! But... there IS evidence that Sunset Shimmer was the villain leading to that particular future. You said that the "unknown future" is devoid of any structure from which to gather clues, but that's not entirely true. The only landmarks we DO see are ash-like dirt and burnt trees... as if a raging fire had taken over and burnt all of Equestria to a crisp.
0 likesHmmmm...
I personally think the bleak wasteland timeline could be a Starlight future, where she took away everyone's cutie marks and plunged the world into chaos. But recently I've also subscribed to the theory that it could be a Daybreaker future. The creators have said that Daybreaker, while extremely unlikely, is a plausible scenario. Maybe in this timeline, after being forced to banish her sister, Celestia snapped, becoming Daybreaker and burned the entire world to the ground. Either scenario would be really interesting
0 likesI think the wasteland world was actually an alternate timeline in which magic drained from. Possibly Cozy's timeline? In this timeline Cozy Glow was shown friendship by someone else, and realized there was a strong magic in it. Then goes her evil scheme and then, the mane 6 wouldn't be there to stop her. She succeeds in draining the world of it's magic, leaving all the plants to die. You've already theorized about the earth ponies' magic with helping them keep plants alive, and if that magic was gone then who would keep them thriving? That's what brings me to my next theory. We know that the elements of harmony are the most powerful gems in Equestria, but what if the artifact magic got to draining? I don't think the Evergreen Forest would still thrive, since it still uses magic, even if it's a different type. If the elements did stay alive, then I do believe that they'd be able to keep the world from dying. However.. since they're technically artifacts, they'd be drained. Anyways, that's just my way of thinking. Hope this gets seen, even though I'm pretty sure it won't.
1 likeThank You sawtooth. I look forward to find out more of the Ponyverse.
0 likesI've been loving these new videos you've been making, keep it up!
1 likeI think the barren wasteland timeline was if Cozy Glow, Chrysalis, and Tirek weren’t defeated. Think about it.
0 likesThey were pretty much destroying everything, and this was the one where the mane 6 mattered the most.
If they hadn’t become friends, the School of Friendship never would have been formed, and the young six never would have met, and they helped unite everyone to defeat the trio. Ocellus wouldn’t have even been there because we can assume that the Changelings never got a chance to reform, especially because Starlight helped them reform.
If they had succeeded in their plans, all of ponykind would have fought against eachother and eventually become a barren wasteland of nothingness.
Though this does bring up the problem with Grogar being Discord all along, as the motives which caused Discord to become Grogar wouldn’t exist in this timeline as the mane 6 weren’t united. But, it’s possible that Discord - who was still a bad guy - could have tried to revive Grogar and he might have been part of their team of villains.
What do you think of this idea?
I dont know if this was covered already, but the CMC should have gotten their cutie Mark's earlier when they helped Trouble Shoes, yea sure he already had his cutie mark, but he helped him find out what he was meant to do, just like what they did in the episode they actually got their cutie marks, and or the other episode where they helped some pony out. If that makes sense at all
0 likesMy theory of the wasteland timeline is one in which daybreaker happens.
0 likesFor whatever reason equestria is able to defeat nightmare moon, but instead of killing her or even weakening her, Celestia tries to reason with her. Nightmare moon eventually unlocks Daybreaker within Celestia and the 2 get into a massive battle. If you notice the wasteland world doesn't have a sun but it's not lit in the blues of night. It's lit with a grayish twilight.. So what if both of the sisters ultimately died, leaving the sun in moon in an eclipse state, and the unicorns not remembering how to move the bodies themselves after so long reliant on the alicorns were unable to do anything.
Either that or starlights timeline, the area around starlights village was awfully similar to the wasteland seen there, though a lot better of course. If she could remove everyones special talents there'd be noone to control the sun and moon, nobody to work the farms, nobody to control the weather. She'd probably become very powerful herself by possibly absorbing the cutie-mark magic. She could probably hold things back from going south for a while but ultimately, even with all of those talents, a whole world is too much for a single pony to keep under control. If a villain comes, sure she could probably just channel all the magic together and defeat them, but nature itself? Not going to be controlled. As for the Everfree, perhaps it started expanding (which is why there's no ruins of ponyville or anything left) but eventually the environment got too hostile for it to survive, so it withered away and turned to dust.
Okay okay okay, roll with me, Sawtooth. What if Starlight helped RD create the Rainboom? And, because of this, the other kids thought she cheated, because of the use of unicorn magic? Then, the Main 6(i refuse to say Mane 6) come together because of the rainboom, and around the time of the first EQG movie... I dunno, I'm no theorist, you'd have to do most of the theorizing by this point; this is just a shot in the dark, y'know?
1 likeIt would have made more sense if they came back to a future where all the villains were undefeated.
0 likesOne topic I recommend is cozy glow , in a mlp song “coinky dink world” and other mlp videos you see a character that strangely looks like cozy glow. Yes Ik , there’s other characters that look simmealer but it’s still suspiciously looks same and sounds the same , another I recommend is why do the (wearable) elements look like the main sixs cutie marks
2 likesReplies (1)
@Dreena Tovar yup , didn't realize , sorry
0 likesCan anyone figure out how Sunset learned of the Elements recovery in the first place. She had a reason to go into the portal to steal it, what tipped her off?
0 likesthe video is, as usual, pretty interesting and cool, but...
0 likesi notice how you don't touch the mlp comic lore pieces.
can you explain - why?
i just read alot of mlp comics lately, and there is a LOT of lore that is fascinating!
Im just now thinking about this while rewatching the entire show(again), but if starlight made it where the main six never existed, that would make it where her "=" town would still be in existence and starlight never would have went threw time to stop twilight and her friends who never existed. In other words, that's a loop hole of starlight time traveling to go stop the main six from ever meeting, so they never visit her town, so she never gets mad and tries to keep them from meeting each other so they never end up going to her town and again and again. I don't know what that effect is called but yah.. an infinite loop hole of events that never happened because one thing never happened because it did.happen.
0 likesI wondered why we didn't see Demon Shimmer timeline but then I start to think about it and it accurred to me that if Twilight never found the element Sunset couldn't steal it and she would be powerless.
0 likesWhat if the barren wast land was Trek's? Think about it, He drained every one of magic, with no one to watch out for the sun, the moon, and so on, The area would be devoid of sunlight which would grow the plants and feed the animals. Making the area a wasteland and have barely any way to thrive. The ponies would either be gone or have moved off weakly...
0 likesIsn't it suspicious that sunset specifically went to steal from twilight while she could steal the crystal empire heart which could easily been destroyed by the horrible weather
1 likeReplies (1)
She didn't want to cause harm, she just wanted to become more powerful. She only wanted to cause harm after she was powered and corrupted. She stole twilight's crown because it was the most powerfull magic she could use, she couldn't use magic of the Crystal heart but she could use twilight's crown.
0 likesI like to think the wasteland was actually daybreaker’s doing because we all know that the sun is extremely powerful, and it can evaporate and turn our worlds into a wasteland
0 likesI think sunset had enough magic to get to the 6th element of harmony and teleport to the mirror but when twilight got her friends together, the element disappeared
0 likesTHIS MAKES SO MUCH SENCE BECAUSE OF ONE PHRASE “not all friendships are as important as each other BUT i can show you what the world is like without mine” this could suggest that without the mane 6s friendship there woundnt have been anypony to stop sunset and thats what the world would be like if she succeeded 😱
0 likesReplies (1)
Wares he he hasn't posted today 😭
0 likesThere are two possible ways I think the last time line could have happened, welcome to comment theory. This one is gonna be short because there is not much evidence but for the first theory I think the final future was caused by all the villains fighting over who gets Equestria at once.
0 likesThe second theory is that it was caused by the Pony of Shadows. This one has a little more evidence to back it up, the fact that the sky is dark around them is and that the Pony of Shadows wants to steal the land light and hope is a great indication. Plus the Pony of Shadows was a villain that appeared after the cutie re-mark, so if it was him the fore(shadowing) amazing. So what do you think was it cause by these two things or something else, leave your thoughts by replying and I’ll see you next time.
Replies (4)
Not the pony of shadows, the pillars and he were freed from limbo by the mane six.
0 likesYou forgot the parasprites, the parasprites actually have the most evidence in the last timeline just because of the fact that it is barren
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg That’s a great theory, but here is why I don’t think it was the parastrites are responsible for the last time line. One, why are there no building? The only reason the parastrites started eating things that were not food was because of Twilight, but if Twilight never became friends with the main six then she would be in ponyville were the first parastrite invasion started. Second, why couldn’t they have just stopped it? We know there has been a parastrite invasion in fillydelphia and it was eradicated before it could spread anywhere else. And lastly, why couldn’t Pinky have stopped them? Pinky knows what parastrites are and how to stop them. We are shown that see don’t need the main six to help her do this either. She was able to defeat an internal army of parastrites single handily, so why couldn’t see do it this time?
0 likes@Dragon Master true
0 likesI've always wondered how other creatures would look like in the other world, spikes a dragon and he turned into a dog but what about griffins, hippogrifs and yaks?
1 likeReplies (1)
Maybe yaks stay the same but what about hippogrifs and griffins?
0 likespersonally I think in that dead reality that sunset shimmer went back to Equestria but she took the alicorn amulet instead of the element of magic
1 likeThe bigger concern might be what would happen to Sunset if there were no elements to defeat Nightmare Moon on her return?
0 likesYou always make the most interesting videos 😊
0 likesI think snip’s cutie mark is like twilights cutie mark , it had 2 reasons
0 likes(Twilights cutie mark ) first it resembled her talent for magic and then it resembled her friends and twilight
Similarly I think snips’s cutie mark resembles that he’s a big trouble maker and in that he might accomplish something related to freedom in the future
Sawtooth Waves do you remember the video of How Discord Came to Be well in that episode you said that chaos can be good for me the only question we have to think is how to show good chaos I think good chaos happens more at parties because if it comes in The better, the crazier the party becomes because in these types of parties we do not control our emotions and everything goes crazy which can be a kind of good chaos
1 likeShe could have equip the teenagers with guns. That would make a difference. It works for the Army.
0 likesMaybe it was Discord. I mean, he does causes "disorder". So, it might be a chance that it was Discord. But then yet again it could be any of the villains. Maybe Chrysalis when the changelings were let out to destroy Equestria during Shining Armour's and Cadence's wedding, like, it the Changelings weren't defeated. Yet again, its my opinion and everyone has different opinions.
0 likesI think that sunset could have taken all the elements of harmony then defeat all the kings and queens in eceestria
1 likeIf Twilight and friends never met, the elements wouldn't be found.
1 likeSomething that I wanna know is who was that big alcorn in mlp equestria girls rainbow rocks that destroyed the sirens.. was it a actual pony that is alive somewhere.. or was it an powerful ancestor from the past? or was it just a creation that the main 7 made from there friendship??
1 likeThe empty waist land future reminds me of a scene in the first Narnia book the magician's nephew.
0 likesWell, guess what, regarding Sunset Shimmer or Nightmare Moon being undefeated, some mad lad is actually thinking to explore this in a fanfic form... in the most unhortodox way possibile in a diplaced human fanfic form.
0 likesWell if you noticed there is no sun so~ “maybe” she was the cause
2 likesI love your vids! I love your theories! Though I do think the Sunset Timeline couldn't exist because……If the rainboom didn't happen then the mane 6
0 likesdidn't happen and if the mane 6 didn't happen then the element of magic didn't happen and if the element of magic didn't happen then "Princess"
Twilight didn't happen and If "Princess" Twilight didn't happen… then … SuNsEt didn't happen…………
Sunset did depend on the element of magic to give her power.....And that is why she didn't have a timeline of her own....
(edit)
But still...I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS,,,
What if in an alternate universe sunset was the element of magic before the rainboom and thus became the princess of friendship.She then could have become evil out of envy of celestia and tried to take over eqestria.If she had successfully taken over that timeline could have been a result of her rulership. Idk what do you guys think?
0 likesI love her design.
0 likesSawtooth I have something to debunk your theory on discord's origins okay so basically the timeline was tyrick then discord and you said the discord must have been born as soon as the tree of Harmony came well here's the thing when tyrick got out and saw discord how did he even know who if he was mostly trapped hell before discord's first appearance this means that discord would know tyrick before bad writing I think not
0 likesI wish to see one of this of the sirens. Their movie's the best
1 likeOk totally off topic of this video but I've been thinking about this a lot. I wonder if their names inspire their cutie marks instead of their cutie marks inspiring their names. Like think about it, What if the cutie marks were decided by the time they were named. Their cutiemarks knew in advance what their personalities we're gonna be like but don't come out until the ponies themselves find themselves.
0 likesThis is based off of a video that you did back in 2015. I'm on my non-school account because my highschool has youtube on restricted mode.its stupid but imma be out of there in a year anyway. I really hope you see this and can do a new video based off of the theories.
I think the last timeline was all villians battling each other and destroying everything
1 likeI have a theory that the wasteland universe is a combination of all the villains winning I'm not sure how the rest would play out but the end, it would result in all the villains destroy all of equestria in their rein of terror. Thus this wasteland universe would come to be.
0 likesIf anyone knows jyc row's series they're making via songs i feel like thats a good series for a theroy on what happened in that last reality
1 likeThis theory is not about Sunset Shimmer herself, but about debunking the multi universe (I mean it is still a multi universe but not as many timelines). Take to account that “what if all the different timelines actually happened on the same timeline?” Thanks to Discord’s and Nightmare moon’s timeline (or should I say the second timeline Starlight created) that it proves that this is what really is happening. Basically in Discord’s timeline he makes pony vill all chaotic as well as clowning up Celestia and Luna. Notice something, in Discord’s timeline, he makes pony vill all chaotic as well as clowning up Celestia and LUNA.
0 likesIf you want to figure the answer out for yourself then don’t scroll down. If you think you have the answer or just don’t want to try to figure it out then feel free to scroll down.
I am guess you don’t want to try and figure it out or just think you have the right answer and are just checking if you have the right answer.
Luna couldn’t have been there if Nightmare Moon never came back in that timeline (because Luna is not coming back as not Nightmare Moon) and was defeated. So what if Nightmare Moon did come back and ruled Equestria for a while, but then was eventually stopped. That is the only way she could have appeared in the Discord timeline. So what if in reality, all of the separate timelines really was in the same timeline. All the event like Cadine’s wedding and the retire of the crystal empire still happen and victory still happens, but the way it played out was different. Also here are two more questions could also make separate timelines. What if Discord was never reformed? Also, what if Starlight was never able to go back to the real timeline with Twilight (like some pony else stopped to stop Starlight from coming back with Twilight)? Also a another question (that will probably not effect the second timeline), how would you reform King Sombra?
Sawtooth waves
0 likesMy theory is that
It is the timeline of all the villains from mlp as without the main 6 they all could have gotten together or have fought and killed each other and made it a wasteland and then none of the others sidekicks, good guys didn't survived.
What if all the villans took over at the same time? That could have created that wasteland
0 likesTHEORY IDEA: Ik that this isnt related to this theory, I have reason to think that Luna got married and now has a foal. I know this sounds really weird and crazy, but the reason I think this is because in the episode “ticket master” Rarity mentioned Prince Blue Blood. Princess Celestia’s nephew! A nephew is the sibling of ones child. The only sibling we know Celestia has is Princess Luna, meaning Prince Blue Blood must’ve come from her. Even if Luna wasn’t the only sibling, I think we would’ve gotten the memo that there was another sibling of the royal sisters by now. But for Prince Blue Blood to be a full grown stallion, he would’ve needed to be born way before! And who would be the husband of Luna? I’m sure you can continue this theory!
0 likesWhat if that wasteland is actually Starlight's wining timeline if no one stood in her way then she would have been successfull.
0 likesI have a theory.. When alicorns are originally pegasus, Their wings get the colored tip, this supports the theory that Cadence was orginally a pegasus, Cozy Glow had wings and when she became an alicorn her wings got tips at the end and flurry is just genetics-
0 likesI feel like the barren time lime is when all the villains have meet each other and battled
0 likesWell Sunset could not know where the elements were and it wouldn’t be easy to travel far to get an element and it would take very long to get to the portal and she would get stuck in pony realm and if she did succeed the element wouldn’t be useful as you can tell it only works as a crown twilights wearing her element has a crown but she didn’t and she couldn’t stick a random crown with the element on it. So if she did say have a crown and somehow brought it back as a crown it would do nothing cause it’s not powered up. also she was very powerful remember she was Celestia’s first pupil so she probably knew how to get the element.
0 likesI read somewhere that the last timeline was because of those all eating sprites or whatever they were.
0 likesSunset shimmer wouldn’t have been able to invade ecuestria in the first place any way and if she was smart like twilight she would have done what twilight was going to do anyway so she was able to do it to so there is a possibility that that is the sunset shimmer virshon becuse she could have obliterated every thin in eckustria.
0 likesSawtooth, the last timeline was the parasprite timeline!
1 likeWhat if cadence only spreads love and not light that has to be the reason of why they needed a second Alcorn that makes so much more sense
0 likesIf the mane six didnt defeat the mean three the cause was by three mythical creatures that break timelines
0 likesThey sooner destroy the castle they steal the crystal heart and slaughter the three princesses
They then reveal themselves to be creatures from a world known as mythia
They said that all epidsodes always end with the good winning so they destroy the final epidsode and let the bad ending to unvale
They then use a powerful shcok wave known a hypernova and reveal crystals known as ultra phase crystals
Then Pixie says: “wanna know what these are? They are weapons that DESTROY TIMELINES!“ they then use the crystals and destroy the mane six making them helpless skinny and boney earth ponies
The last thing they do is they send a gamma ray and make the sun expand and consume everything around them and the story ends with the six burning in the ashes the creatures say “Your save files shall be glitched.“
Well, I actually thought. That if there is no princess twightlight sunset would be the princess of friendship because sunset was celistea's student before twightlight so I always thought if sunset made freinds and there is no twightlight Sunset will be the princess of freindship. sunset would have never even became bad after all
0 likesGod I love the new intro 😁👌🏼
0 likesWhat if the real reason sunset quite her study’s at princess celestia was cause she was jealous of twilight... and if twilight never became a student sunset took over her place and found the 6 elements of harmony but because she took over the friendship role she couldn’t control it the way twilight and the others did so that’s why their wasn’t anything?
0 likesI think the last time line was if starlight wasn't stopped from giving all of equestria = cutie mark
0 likesi am so mad that the show ended, they couldve expanded on so much, in fim and equestria girls, ugh >:((
0 likesReplies (4)
I think the makers desided to Stop because they wanted the fans to continue the story.
0 likesEquestria girls could go on but I don't really know why they stopped it, possibly the makers were focusing on the main story that by the time they came back it was ended?
0 likes@Kirk Lundberg you’re right but the unanswered questions drive me nuts lmao
0 likes@alexisss mabye they wanted us to make fanfics that answered those questions.
0 likesCan you plz explain why the elements of harmony were turned from crystals to stones
0 likesSawtooth I have a question a few days before you release this video Dr Wolf made a video that in it he with the help of discord went into the statue that Tirec cozy glow and Chrysalis are in to give them a therapy session so my question is do you think this is a good idea and if so would you maybe considering going with Dr Wolf for a session to try and reform these three with some of the methods you have done in your videos and if not could you possibly do a video on the fact that a lot of aspects in MLP FIM has to do with ancient Greece
0 likes"Celestia took over Luna's job when she was banished but how does she know how to raise the moon when she had a sun cutie mark
0 likesIf she wasn't the one who raised the moon when Luna was gone then who did"
👁👄👁
Replies (1)
the sun is heavier than the moon
0 likesWhat element does sunset shimmer represent because she does seem important just like the main five
0 likesI think the epty part of the timeline is what would happen if they all combind!
0 likesHi, I just wached a VERY old Video of yours about the Elements of Disharmonie. You thought the Amulet, where Sombras Alicorn magic is trapped, was the opposite of the Element of magic. But well we all know that's not true now. So now we have no Idea if the Elements of Disharmony exist. Could u try to cover that sometime? I'd love to see a respond or even a Video about it! :)
0 likesFallout Equestria. That what wasteland Equestria was. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
0 likesMaybe the waste land was Sunset timeline. The power from the Crown must have never been destored and their was powers withing the crown. And the power in the crown corrupted and destored Twilight's home. Having the pony's to live like animals in a forest trying to survie the changelings.
0 likesI think i have a solution for the waste land timeline. This might be the timeline of the sirens we all know that back in old pony time before the three tribes came together their fighting created a huge snow storm and almost caused full on destruction of the whole land. What if in the sirens alternate timeline they got the chance to cause the land to fight then used their power to go back to equestria and cause the ponies to fight and feed off that power. Maybe all the fighting caused the snow storm that once came a long time ago to rise up again but this time with so much fighting the storm came back really bad and not even the sirens could handle the snow storm beacause how much ponies they made fight. Then the storm got so powerful it wiped out the whole of equestria and ponies and the sirens. Soon the storm died down leaving equestria as an empty waste land. I dont know if this might be it its just my theory please reply what yall think of this theory? Love your vids sawtooth 😄😄😄
0 likesIt couldn’t be that she went to the mirror because she was greedy
0 likesIt sounds a little unwise of such a cunning unicorn
3 things 1 what about if someone else can replace the main six 2 what if sunset shimmer replace the main six see sunset shimmer is in the same school as twilight so princess celestia could send her to Ponyville and have like the same story as twilight 3 is possible that starlight glimmer It was the cause of this disaster. I mean, I think about it, she take away destinations from ponies and by doing that it could alter everything and cause destruction and that place could be the town of starlight glimmer.
1 likeThere's probably only one Sunset Shimmer, and she left before Twilight met the others.
0 likesRaise your hand if you thin Sunset would’ve been a better leader ✋ I do
0 likesThe baren land could of been trixy, dragons, celestia goes crazy cause she had to banish luna and distroys everything, the land isn't baren really it just looks burnt.
0 likesYou know I have an idea for your next video go to season 8 episode 5 look closely at the pony who show the granny’s where to land he has a horn but also wings could there be boy alicorns who knows?
0 likesI think like in season 9 three of the villians teamed up and almost took over equestria maybe all the villians teamed up and distroyed equestrua forever
0 likesAlso can you do another video on why sunburst looks like sunset alot (hint ,they are related)
1 likeHere: https://youtu.be/nTL5JONN0mM
0 likesThis video highlights that the last change of time, wait what do you call it? (the empty wasteland) is Starlights. And it is not in the present, instead, the future. After all of MLP, turns out Starlight is not reformed and tries to get closer to Twilight, so Starlight gains Twilight's trust. Then, she finishes her big plan that she planned all those years with Twilight, then DESTROYS ALL OF EQUESTRIA AND BEYOND. MAYBEE this could have actually aired, but maybe because it is rated Y7.
Replies (2)
Parasprites, anytime.
0 likesOoo yeah that could be too, but weren’t the parasprites in the everfree forest and Fluttershy took one of them with her?
0 likesThat timeline is if cozy glow,chrissalys,and tirekwas not defeated remember they work together to ripe the land
0 likesI would love a word of ETERNAL NIGHT
1 likewho knew that twilight's cutie mark is like the elements of harmony the little stars are 5 twilight has 5 friends in the middle twilight's element
0 likesHi sawtooth waves I know when is my little pony movie 2 rAs if all that news wasn't exciting enough, Hasbro also announced that an all-new My Little Pony movie will hit theaters Sept. 24, 2021!Nov 13, 2019
0 likesStarlight glimmer was trying to show what would happen if Luna and Celestia fight
0 likesWell I still Question 1:45
0 likesWhat timeline was it if it wasent sunset shimmer?
But if sunset didn't have a motive then she could have probably been trusted as a princess just like twilight. I mean if this didn't happen in "the last problem " we may have even saw sunset ruling eqestrea along side twilight
0 likesThe cost of the dry land is The dragon if twilight does not form the magic in school spike will not bi there and spike will not stop the bad dragon.
1 likeuhhh is it possible for normal ponies to become alicorns? if so would they have the power to turn normal ponies into either a Pegasus or unicorn?
0 likesWhat happens when starlight gets the crown she can change and destroy everything. 😜
0 likesMy question can alcorns use their wings can you make a video about that?
0 likesIs it me or when starlight got defeated we saw her secretly spying twilight like in season 5 episode At. She is watching them in the restaurant we can see her hair
0 likesI theorize that that wasteland was caused by Ahuizotl as he did want to cause unrelenting heat in daring don't
0 likeslisten I think that everyone thinks stygian is the shadow pony from castle mania , but it is timber wolves because their eyes match the eyes shown in the scene . Plus stygian was inside the shadow pony and was banished with him /
0 likesI Still think that all the villians caused all that destruction in that waste land
0 likesWhat if it was all of the villains because all of the timelines could combined
0 likesHey saw tooth plz plz see my comment.... I know y Luna turned into nightmare moon.....see the clip again when all 3 princesses-cadence Celestia and Luna gave thier powers to twilight when Teriek was stealing everyones power...in that you see that in Luna cutimark only moon disappeared not the dark background or magic around her moon cutie mark.... And in another clip when day breaker (Celestia) was formed in royal problems episode you can see that in Celestia cutie mark around her sun their is some yellow backround....but real cutie mark is only the sun.....plus I don't think that Luna directly became nightmare moon like u said in a video..but somebody tried to force her to rule and gain and told her to banish her sister....but who...? Maybe you can figure it out...
1 likeOh.. I have one more question regarding this......when Luna was turned into nightmare moon she was banished into moon for 1000years and we saw how Celestia ruled everything..... But..... When Celestia turned into day breaker was she banished into sun for 1000years? And how did Luna ruled equestria? ..was she also banished by those elements....if Luna ruled equestria would she send twilight to Ponyville....? (Cause Luna don't pay much attention...) and would twilight find her destiny..? Would she ruled properly or equestrian is doomed?? And if suppose twilight didn't find the elements... Then the return of day breaker would be terrible or did Luna handled all those tasks..?how and how would equestrian would be in that state...??? Plzz answer my question....i love you videos plz like my comment if you like and I want to know you that I like flutter shy too much!!!! Plz make more videos....and if you would like me to give more ideas about your videos I would be always present in snap chat......plz chat with me if you like!?... Plz plz plz..... I would give you much more ideas.....!!!! My snap id: unknowngirl8790 OK!!!
Plz plz say hi and tell me ur snap I'd also Plzzzzzz pretty plz......
Sunset shimmer
0 likesStarlight glimmer
Sounds familiar, right?
Unoriginal Theory: The last timeline was caused by the parasprites destroying everything.
0 likesReplies (1)
@Hannah Ringer either I said it first or you did
0 likesMaybe, what if Sunset
0 likesTURNED INTO AN ALICORN!
I was watching some of your alicorn videos and I think that like alicorns have earth pony,unicorn,and Pegasi magic discord has magic from all kinds of animals (you can make a backstory I'm not that good)
0 likesSawtooth what if you did a video on how ponies get the same cutie mark
1 likesomething funny about the episode were applejack and Fluttershy went to las pegasus there was an male alicorns and he had a pair of wings and a horn so I think that male alicorns do exist but they work in other places.
0 likesWell sunset is very powerful so she probably could have made the spark too right?
0 likesIs toilet never became a Alcorn sunset shimmer might have become one because she was celestial surprise student along with twilight sparkle so you never know solicit could’ve sent sunset so much of the world before sunset shimmer escape through there
1 likeI have a question
0 likesWhy didn't sci twi become an alicorn when she went to equerstria??
I have a question do you remember when apple jak said to rainbow dash about the pony of shadows to be the part of nighmare moon's shadow magic in episode 13 of season 3, but what if that PONY OF SHADOWS was the same evil that corrupted stigean (sorry for the bad writing) now that i rememeber the one who corrupted him was named that way what do you think about it?
1 likeReplies (2)
shashows lamo avkcyrhvodhdj
0 likesAgreed
0 likessawtooth, its been more than a week, where is your next theory??
0 likesEven tho there was no sunset time line maybe sunset didn’t win? What if sunset was able to get raid of that land but she was over throwin by the princesses. What if sunset maybe burned that land but she had lost the war and she did do that maybe we did see that time line but not sunset cuz she had lost. Maybe we all did see the time line where sunset burned the land but she lost the war and Princesses fell to in that time line I think we did she that time line where mlp’s world fell cuz of sunset and all the people died and the world was gone and was just a world of dust.
1 likeMaybe Sunset would be defeted by the mane 6 when she goes to Equestria
0 likesWouldn't rainbow dash be a alicorn I mean she was the one who somewhat bought the main six together if it wasn't for her then I mean non of them would've meant right?
0 likeswhat if Tirek had a third brother
0 likesI know they are glitch’s but what if these male alicorns are under cover they are hiding who they really are and maybe there are not glitch’s there could be a chance that are hiding that they are alicorns since all are females maybe they are afraid pony’s will kick them out
0 likesShe kinda looks like day breaker ngl
1 likeDawn breaker might have done it
0 likesEveryone knows that's the Trixie timeline
0 likesReplies (2)
"And for the Great and Powerful Trixie's next trick, she will start the apocalypse! Not so illusionist now, am I Twilight?"
0 likes*Boom*
Oh yeah
0 likesI have an idea for a future video go to season 8 episode 5 look at the pony who shows the granny’s where to land he has a horn and wings could there be boys alicorns check out my second idea
0 likesOr its human twilight, she didn't need to meet twilight to make her device to almost distroy both worlds while going crazzy. And sunset shimmer never would of been there to help her control herself. I thought of that a while ago and who knows? Maybe its true or false. What do you think SawTooth Waves?
0 likesOfcorse the elements of harmony were taken over night mare moon that's why sunset couldn't even take over it
0 likesI want to find a woman for me and then she turned into Nightmare moon
0 likesNow I guess your sister I’m saying attention to the movies because I like the specialist said that whatever her name is north of purple and blue hair that she would do that if you’re up for doing what you keep on changing the past so basically you were here and right
0 likesWhy did you make it so much more expensive?
0 likesAnd u know twilight and human twilight, shes very smart and destructive. Shes scary.
0 likesHey sawtooth ummmm one thing I kinda noticed in season 3 or 2 so when the crystal empire was under attack I noticed somepony with cozy glows cutie mark soo maybe that could be her dad
1 likeReplies (1)
it could be but the episode for it was season three called the crystal empire part 2
0 likesIt could’ve been global warming
0 likesHow do you make that cartoon on your videos?
0 likesi thought that the waste land was created by tereck?
0 likesHuman twilight would of succeeded in taking over both worlds unlike sunset shimmer. Human twilight never met pony twilight when she made her device to absorb magic.
0 likesI think Sawtooth Waves videos in the last future that starlight open is that the sky is little yellow and kind their was a war and full of sand it means that their are already bodies turn to sand because they died in the war so that the last Future is showed that their was a war between human zombie ponies and ponies from the real world and that is my thinking about the last future in starlight glimmer's spell
0 likesBut why did their was no close glow time line
0 likesWhat would happen if close glow was not defeated
Please answer my quary
Lol she wouldn’t have an army if there was no twilight there wouldn’t be a crown and the element would still be in the castle of 2 sisters
0 likesI think that future with nothing in it could have been grogar
0 likesReplies (2)
Or nightmare moon and daybreaker's power collided destroying everything (if u watch dragon ball super u will know wut I mean
0 likesIf u look at the bottem of the sky it has grogar's magic couler... Or grogar nightmare moon and daybreaker colided
0 likesi think she could of been in the time line with out twilight because, sunset is technically twilight but in the human world so if she befriend pinky pie, rainbow dash, flutter shy, rarity and applejack and bring them to the pony world they can get the magic of friends ship stuff and take over Equestria but that my theory and their a bunch of gapes so lol XD.
0 likesPlease see all the timelines the timelines Nightmare moon was exceeded the never a woman's of harmony was found with Mike ramones how to just give up again a sister so was there was then known as that such that I don't think so so stable survivor that attacked
0 likesWhat is the next video gonna be! 😮
1 likeYes but if Twilight never became a princesses sunset would have never have got twilight crown because twilight would be a normal unicorn
0 likesIf sunset is a pony than were is the human sunset?
1 likeThanks for making video !!
1 likeI think pony sunset is actually human sunset and pony sunset died and was replaced by human sunset.
0 likesI have a question that you might want do a video on watch Friendship is magic part 2 and Princess twilight sparkle part 2 And look at when! When nightmare moon is turned back into a princess Luna in Friendship is magic part to she looks a really young but when it shows her getting turned into nightmare moon in princess twilight sparkle part 2 She looks as she does now!
0 likesBoy you are cursed with mlp questions
1 like3:52 pinkie comes
0 likesMe AHHH OMG I NEVER KNEW PINKIE WAS SCARY!
btw can u do a video about the castle of the two sisters?
If Sunset wasn't defeated she's going to take over axestreia
0 likesFind some clue I know it is it look like it Queen chrysalis skills training then then then they are printed all the colours and the shoes make the 930 as it turns into evil and then just for the right or no
0 likesUhh Sunset can make the spark, well at least try
0 likesWhat for an use has the cutie mark of sunset shimmer it looks like celestia her cutie mark so is she meant to be the princess of the sun and later be an alicorn?
0 likesOr human sunset was killed and replaced by pony sunset.
0 likesThat sounds interesting but she is good in high school then how she is in equstria?
0 likesOMG I REMEMBER WATCHING WHEN I WAS YOUNG DWYYUDWDWYAGWDA NO WONDER U SEEM SO FAMILIAR
0 likesCan you please do a face show
0 likesHow did Princess cadence became alicorn
0 likesyou should make a face reveal sooooon
0 likesHey sawtooth can you react to bride of discord and daughter of discord ps watch bride of discord first and it's not animated
0 likesDid u remeber the last clip of mlp right celectia said that i hope u can visit me in silver shores where is that
0 likesI hope u reply btw best mlp theorist i ever seen sooo far
What is one of stain glass about CMC
0 likescan u make a video on wind spirt dad(bad at spelling and she is clear sky daught)
0 likesSawtooth I have something for you to read it's very important
0 likesI have a weird question so here it goes why dose rainbow dash holded twilight in her part like in the epesode power pony rainbow dash said "twilight!" and then she holded and were suked in. So yeah weird
0 likesconfused pikachu face
0 likesstarlight is lice sombra
0 likesReplies (1)
sunset shimer not starlight
0 likesI love demen pony sunset
0 likesWhat about daybreaker
1 likeI love your video
1 likeSooo Just a ideal for your next video- are applejack and rainbow dash lesbian?
0 likes☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️
0 likesHappy thanksgiving
0 likesWhat if Sunset shimmer was starlight’s sister cause both of them have (Shimmer)
0 likesReplies (3)
Starlight Glimmer?
0 likesYeah kinda...
0 likes@Your Weekly Musician you were saying they had the same last names right?
0 likesYou are right
0 likesYou are right
0 likesWhat about daybreaker
0 likesSunset and starlight
0 likesCozy glow
0 likesPlease see all the time how many there was still in their place how the Mona find its you know the answer to tell me the
0 likeswhERE THE HELL ARE COZY GLOW’S PARENTS!!! THEORY NOW!!!! **ahem**... no pressure or anything...
0 likesThey break it cos I've been
0 likesSunset shimmer timeline?
0 likesI think it’s regard
0 likesWow
0 likesI think there's only one sunset but how there two rainbow in the human and pony
0 likesSoooo umm can you spill the tea pls umm how old are twilight and her gang in equestria and how old are sunset Shimmer and her gang in equestria girls?
0 likesIntensive Simba and think he did not succeed in the men's don't don't disturb me without the rainbow but percentage summer comes in the even then she can be a princess Twilight to not feel the starlight students
0 likesHow old is sombra
0 likes❄💙
0 likes💗💗💗💗💗
0 likesI am your fan 😁
0 likesHello I am Maria but you cut me out of core Mark
1 likeI hope it started because she is mean
0 likesStorm king
0 likesThe eastland is discordes
0 likesIts daybreaker
1 likeMr.I am a alicorn
0 likeswhy we dident see sunset win becase she dosent no how to use twilite sparckls element freindship
0 likesThe way my name is Alex
0 likesThe villens token over
0 likesHow nice
0 likesand more bugs.
0 likesSunset Shimmer won
0 likesWhat name evil Sunset Shimmer
0 likesFor the barren wasteland timeline, I think it’d be interesting if the cause of that was the dragons as the result of Garble winning the Gauntlet of Fire and becoming Dragon Lord. Remember he says specifically that as Dragon Lord he’d “take whatever we want from Equestria and burn the rest”. I think it’s unlikely that the dragons could succeed against the Equestrian military and the princesses, but not impossible. Garble’s pretty ruthless and fairly popular among his dragon peers, his reign would probably be more actively militaristic than Torch’s. So maybe this barren wasteland is just what Equestria looks like now and the other kingdoms are still around!
2 likesBefore watching your video, I quickly theorized about this scenario and I agree with you. My guess, she would have sought out another powerful artifact, like the Alicorn Amulet, gone to the Well of Shade, sought a way to become a Nightmare like Nightmare Moon or discovered Grogar's Bell.
1 likeBase on her desire for power she would have continued her search until she came across something, or someone with greater power then her, leading to the final timeline.
Idea for what caused the alternate timeline: Starlight from that timeline tried forcing everyone into sameness, succeeded, and with no one to raise and lower the sun and moon, the planet froze and burned. My guess for why they didn’t die of exposure to those extremes is the map. The map created a clearing around it for Nightmare Moon. You can see some perfect cuts in the trees around it, almost as if the map made a forcefield around itself to destroy the trees, so it wouldn’t be intersecting them, and so Twi and Spike wouldn’t be trapped in the ever free forest. We know that the forested areas are often too dark to see anything, but there was moonlight in the clearing. I may be looking into it way too far, but until proven otherwise, I declare this headcanon acquired.
0 likesSeeing how dangerous invasions from other realms are, a winning Sunset might have somehow managed to stop timetravel from affecting her Equestria.
0 likesMaybe an alternate Sunset would have somehow found the memory stone or managed to steal the pendants from the Dazzlings. Both could be dangerous enough to allow her to conquer Equestria.
Great that we finally get representation for Pegasi. What will be next? Kirin, Zebras or Batponies/Thestrals/Cavalum (or whatever you want to call them)?
I mean, for all we know, that apocalyptic timeline could've had different bearers for the EoH due to the original bearers never meeting, and with those different bearers existing, perhaps Sunset killed them after obtaining the element of magic as I'm sure that's what her original plan was in EG, either enslave the bearers like she did to the rest of the school, or kill them
0 likesSo it's still a possibility that the apocalyptic timeline, was because of Sunset, and she only succeeded because Twilight wasn't there to convince her to change her mind and Sunset killed the other element of magic bearer
Nope, you hit it on the head. The second you started on your breakdown I was like, "Wait, wouldn't they have all needed to be together for Sunset to even get the EoM in the first place?" I've always thought Sunset's plan was a little flawed, but that doesn't really stop me from liking her as a character. ^_^
0 likesBy the way, I have to ask— what's up with Syannax and YoshiDarkLord that you always facehoof when you say their names at the end? XD
Edit: punctuation
I feel like the last timeline could be Sunset's timeline, the ground and trees look burnt. Sunset's represented as a phoenix.
0 likesAs for the sixth element, I don't think she'd need it. There's magic in everyone right? Whether they're a human or a pony, there's magic to some degree in them. You can see how Tirek absorbs magic, there's most likely a spell that Sunset might have learned to absorb the magic in the human world and go on to do the same in Equestria and eventually become just as powerful as she would be with the elements.
Tirek went all around Equestria and absorbed all of the magic in the creatures, and it took the Mane 6 the extra power of the Tree of Harmony to beat him. If there was no Mane 6 and no 6th Element.. No one could beat Sunset with the magic she would've had. And remember the magic she has is twice the amount Tirek had. The Human world is like a parallel universe to Equestria, so it makes sense it has the same amount of magic.
And the burning, I think she tried to gain too much magic and it all built up and exploded, causing a giant fire. I think everything has a magic limit, and once you exceed that limit (very difficult to do so, so we don't see it in the show) your living form bursts because the power is too much (kinda graphic don't you think?). Sunset did this, and because she's represented as a phoenix, I think she became fire and it spread throughout Equestria, burning everything to a crisp.
Along with the fact that we can see clearly that Celestia isn't even close to the power of the elements, Sunset could easily overthrow the two sisters and out of anger, burn all of Equestria to a crisp. I think when Twilight and Starlight went into the last timeline, they walked in on Sunset just finishing burning the land. There's dust and smoke in the air and everything is dark and burnt.
i love this topic so much i wrote 4 paragraphs on it, i could go on and on. if you see this sawtooth and you like it feel free to use it in a video :)
Although I am intrigued about Sunset's victory, I have a theory about the desolate Equestria. Maybe Garble became Dragon Lord and commanded all Dragons to pillage and exterminate all the other creatures like Ponies, Yaks and Hippogriffs for food. What do you think?
0 likesMy hypothesis of the wasteland timeline has to do with the sleeping dragon that was spreading soot across the land. I thought that this guess seemed the most logical since it looks like the land is covered in soot or grey dust.
0 likesI've always thought that the devastation of the last timeline was caused by Midnight Sparkle because the events of The Cutie Re-mark and The Friendship Games were happening at the same time. The human 6 weren't able to stop the corruption of Sci-Twi and she ripped a portal into Equestria, consuming all the magic, leading to the death of everything.
0 likesWell I think the last timeline might have actually been Cozy Glow... Ok hear me out! So in the episode Cozy Glow's plan was to take all of the magic and its shown that their society is very dependent on magic so what would happen if it actually DID go into the vortex? No matter what anyone did the world was doomed to fall because of what Cozy did because their crops would fall, the weather wouldn't be able to change and the sun and moon couldn't be moved anymore so it would eventually lead to the fall of Equestria
0 likesOne thing a lot of people overlook is the fact that Principal Celestia and Vice Principal Luna were also under Demon Sunset's control, meaning her army may well have had two additional alicorns.
0 likesI'd also say you're right about it being logistically impossible for us to see a timeline where the elements were never broken out of stone and Sunset wins. But that's narrowing the focus to just the timelines caused by Starlight going back in time to change things. It's still possible Sunset and her small teenage army (give or take some alicorns) could have succeeded, it just wouldn't have been a timeline Starlight altered.
Love the theories as usual! Thanks.
1 likeAgh, you beat me to it! I have an episode in the works about this too. Though I feel I go in to more detail. I haven't been able to finish it, though, cause I need some scenes animated and haven't had any luck finding someone do it.
0 likesHere's a few question to try and solve:
1 like1. How do pegasus do the sonic rainboom? And can anything other than them do it?
2. Does Trixie get corrupted by the alicorn amulet or does she use its magic to fool the mane 6?
3. What ARE memory stones in equestrian girls?
I think that last timeline was something from beyond either of the known universes. Since it looks as though all of equestrian was burned to the ground, I believe that the final timeline was Ragnarok taking place. Either that or the Eldjotun (fire giants) decided to enter Equestria and burn it to the ground.
0 likesI always felt that the wasteland timeline was because Celestia had to fight Nightmare Moon. But not being able to face her again, she destroyed herself along with her sister causing no one to be in control of the celestial bodies. This wreaked havoc on the environment, destroying all live. Dark, I know, but how else could that wasteland happen?
0 likesAs always you have given us an amazing video, thank you for that however I have to ask what's with the feathers in your OCs mane? I mean they really remind me of a character from an anime/manga that I read so I just thought I would ask
0 likesWe could have seen her time line cause each one went to a different villain Which meant the main six did come together but may have fallen apart in there friendship due to the many conflicts they did have within there journey
0 likesWhat if that wasteland was a time where all the villains decided to work together. Instead of one villain per timeline. This one is where they all decided to strike simultaneously. Tbh if they did I can imagine nothing bein left.
0 likesI think you ARE correct with these new theories you come up with every week. Especially THIS one!
0 likesi mean if sunset never envied twilight getting celestia’s attention, she probably would have continued her studies and never entered the mirror. shes as strong as twilight, but since she doesnt under the magic of friendship LIKE twilight, she would never fully become celestia’s prodigy or heir.
0 likesbut it would be fun to imagine sunset as the main character instead,, in any one of those 7 timelines,, sunset could figure out different ways to defeat the big bad that doesn’t involve a rainbow curbstomp. but instead slowly learning the magic of friendship with the mane 6 minus twi and then using the elements to help return equestria to harmony.
well you know you have a good point there and you are correct but what if there was an alternative...as we all know princess celi was able to banish her sister to the moon for a thousand years and that's a long time. so sunset would be able to rule for just about a thousand years before it wore off. tell me what you think in the comments below
0 likesSo if the final future Starlight and Twilight visited wasn’t caused by Sunset, then it was obviously caused by the Sirens.
1 likeWait, but you said that Celestia would've used the Elements of Harmony to defeat Luna, and considering that she'd eventually would have to return them to the Tree, wouldn't that give Sunset the opportunity to steal them? And considering that her name is 'Sunset', and that there is no sun in the final timeline, could've it been possible that she caused the sun to disappear by defeating Celestia, thus having the world die off?
1 likeI'm glad it never happened, Sunset is my favorite pony in the whole show.
0 likes2:22 You were posably right. Grogar's bell, the Grogar legend took place long before S1E1 Sunset Shimmer may have used Grogar's bell.
0 likesIf sunset took over, everyone would be brainwashed, including Celestia, Luna, and Cadence. She would turn the princesses into her lesser demon servants, and force everyone to live under her intense grip, executing all who failed her. She would eventually search for more worlds.
0 likesYou know what's funny? I'm friends with Darthsylar-12 and I'd say that this channel and pony, Sawtooth Waves, helped create a friendship. ^^ Thanks, Sawtooth. Bro hoof.
0 likesPretty sure it wasn't Sunset, but I almost think that it was a nod to the Fandom, and specifically Fallout Equestria. If that's the case, then while some things would be notably different, the war between the Ponies and the Zebras would have still happened.
0 likesIt's likely that Stable Tec wouldn't exist, or at least wouldn't how we know it. Apple Bloom may still have been the brains behind it, but I have doubts that Scoots and Sweetie managed to become life long friends with her
It's also likely the ministries didn't exist. Without Luna there to take over, because it's likely that she was rebanished, a brokenhearted Celestia likely had to lead her country.
Now, again, this is a theory based on the idea that they gave a nod to Fallout Equestria.
Well, it's pretty simple if twilight never made those friends she would've never had the element of magic crown so sunset would've never gone through that portal to steal the crown from twilight, and without twilight and her friends getting the elements they would still be in the old castle of the two sisters and I doubt sunset would travel all the way over there and she probably wouldn't even know that is where the elements are.
0 likesAbout your theory sawtooth, I have a theory of my own.
0 likesWhat if we did see her ending but since starlight did make one mobe that disrupted twilight future causing twilight to not be the 6th element but instead sunset was the 6th element magic.
Making her not find the portal to the human world, but instead of using her power for good she used it for her own benefit sucking equestria dry and the last ending was sunset's.
I don't know though it's just a theory?
One more comment because I realized something.
0 likesWhat Starlight did in Equestria with the time traveling, actually absolutely no effect on the human world.
And here's the proof. At the end of The Friendship Games, Princess Twilight comes through the portal saying, "I am so sorry I didn't get here earlier. I didn't get your messages until just now because I was caught in this time travel loop, and honestly, it was the strangest thing thats ever happened to me."
Time Travel Loop. That is enough of proof to show that all the new presents that were being created by Starlight were happening at the same time as the Friendship Games.
The Friendship Games foreshadowed the season 5 finale with that line from Twilight.
I have to wonder...would Principal Celestia and Luna be included in that zombie army? And would they turn into alicorns upon going through to Equestria? If so, her army suddenly becomes much less of a joke I think.
0 likesThe magic element in Equestria is still useful, it’s the others that aren’t without the element of magic.
0 likesi'm not sure
0 likessome of the alternate timelines where with the rainboom
since some of the main 6 cutiemarks in the alternate timelines are the same as prime equestria
so the element of Magic still "woke up" in those timelines
I think sunset shimmer may have destroyed equestria and most of the structures using her newly gained powers. Now imagine how strong she could get using grogars bell
0 likesTechnichally, none of these timelines would be possible because if Starlight made them never meet, then the main six never would have come to the village to make her activate the spell.
0 likesPlease make a video about what happened with the young 6: the easygoing Sandbar (Earth Pony), the gruff Smolder (Dragon), the sarcastic Gallus (Griffon), the shy Ocellus (Changeling), the cheerful but clumsy Yona (Yak), and the hyperactive Silverstream (Hippogriff/Seapony).
0 likesIf we believe that 30 moons is 3/5 to of a pony year and that it is enough time for equestria to be put in danger, then maybe that last AU (Alternate Universe), might just be the result of an attack or the outcome of Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy Glows attack if Twilight didn’t come to help them
0 likesI love some of this guy's What Ifs, but he never structures his discussions so it never feels like he explores his ideas.
0 likesHere's a what if scenario. What if Sunset never left Canterlot and remained Celestia's student? Would Twilight have been trained next to her? Would they have been friends or rivals? How would they have influence each other?
0 likesIt is not clear which magic evil Sunset would have used to bring the zombie teenage army to Equestria. She was quite powerful when she wore Twilight's crown. Suppose that she found a way to lead the human army to Equestria. But instead of changing into ponies, the teenage army stayed in human form. Considering that she was a maniac, her intention was to kill Twilight with that magical laserbeam, she could have equipped her army with guns, leading to a massacre among Celestia's army. And with the final scene of a desolate Equestria, Sunset could have brought in a bomb of mass destruction. A sort of atomic bomb but then filled with dark and destructive Equestrian magic.
0 likesSo here is my timeline/theory
0 likesSunset never found the 6th element but she used the other 5 to get just as powerful to make her army but the royal sisters differently her (Luna never was nightmare moon) but before she was banished she escaped into the human world and became the sunset that bullied the mane six and she still had her power well half of hit some was spread to the mane six of that universe so they never got there powers from everfree and they basically stoped sunset and set her back to where she came.
And no there is going to be commands and you must do it in a Batman way not voice but how Batman can do a long explanation in one breath
Mabye you could try to see what caused the final timeline in that episode 🤷♀️
0 likesOk wait. Random thought but could it be possible that the elements of harmony aren't truly gone? In the episode where the student six make the tree house ocellus and silver stream held up two halves of the element of kindness. If you remember at the first episode when night mare moon shattered the elements twilights spark of friendship made the get fixed! So maybe the elements are able to heal over time or the healing could be accelerated with that.... Spark. The friendship spark, that magic spark. They can't be gone forever, they just can't be.
0 likesI think that WAISTLAND could have been the victory of... THE PONY OF SHADOWS! Here is my theory. When they got to (I forgot the name) where they banished the Pony of shadows... It was basically a waiste land. No pony lived there. Plus, they said that the location was entirely corrupted!
0 likesThat time line was caused because:ponies slavery because of night mare moon ,no tree's (flim n flam), chrysalis soked love,same with tirek n magic witch caused ponies to go extinct (and other creatures)
1 likeAnd (this is for a little silliness) the creators forgot about sunset
I feel like it wasnt mean or toward anything
0 likesI think it was just to show that equestria would be nothing without them
To show AFTER all of the things it showed in all possible outcomes would lead to destruction eaither way if she continued what she was doing
If anything i find that sunset shimmer was the most weakest villian and no offence but more stupid as well
Hard to explain
If the last time line we see in the episode of starlight changing past it was caused by every villan of the story.
0 likesOr, maybe a WAR of villains?
When Sunset stole Twillight's crown later one in the Equestria human world sunset became a friend to Twillight and she did have a magical book that sent messages to Twillight in the pony world but sunset did have some time lines 📚 Magic 🍎Honesty ⚡ Loyalty 💖 Generousity 🐇 Kindnes 🎉 Laughter
1 likeMy theory for the barren wasteland is think of this, without the elements of harmony maybe the windigo's came back somewhere along the line. Notice the barren wasteland where nothing grows but also no one lives, the ponies are extinct, everything that used to live is gone because of the fearsome snowstorms that the windigo's bring killing the plant life and with no food humanity as well. Maybe that wasn't the past maybe that was the moment when Crisalys, Tierek and Cosyglow started taking over equestrian, without the elements of harmony. WITHOUT THE SCHOOL to teach everyone to work together the windigo's come back they are unable to stop them and equestrian gets wiped off the map.
0 likesEdit: and without hate the windigo's vanish leaving nothing but dust and dead.... Well everything.
And even if that scenario happened, well, Sunset would have to deal with the Plunderseeds soon or later... XD In which, or she gave the ELEMENT OF MAGIC + the other elements, or she would have no kingdom to reign. XDDDDD. Dude, that was a good one. That's something very interesting to be explored, with many possibilites.
0 likesI think the dead/devoid timeline was starlight's victory.
0 likesHey wait... Sawtooth, if the rainboom never happened, what about the Dazzlings/Sirens? They likely would still have been banished to the human world, as the rainboom didn't cause that, but what about the time after the pegasus race? Time in the human world seems to function the same way as in equestria, and if not days in the human world = hours in equestria(i don't know if that's important or not). I think that without twilight and the human counterparts of her friends, the dazzlings would have taken over the human world. But would they find a way through to equestria? And would their rise to power trigger the series of events that caused the rise of midnight sparkle, too? I'd like to see that face off! Another thing to note is that midnight sparkle probably wouldn't have been defeated either, because sunset wouldn't be there and spike-who-was-never-a-dragon wouldn't be able to talk. I'm getting too far into this..what do you think?
0 likesIn conclusion: Without Dashie there is no future
0 likesI dont think without the element of magic sunset could have cause the plain of burnt trees and ash. I do wonder however if it could not have been caused by Daybreaker somehow
0 likesBut then again, if the mane 6 didn't unite the crown or the elements would necessarily be present, well they would but not in the newer forms, and if that's so sunset wouldn't have been able to access that power, so she would most likely be in that world but without the crown existing in the first place, she would only remained a school bully.
0 likeswell if it wasn't said before on here if the elements didn't come together then the element of magic would not have shown up to be stolen.
0 likesWait... The elements would be hidden and Nightmare Moon or Dark Luna would be in control... princess Celestia would be in Moon.... She wouldn't be able to teach Sunset shimmer nor tell her about the portal... Which would mean sunset would never be able to think of that plan... She might have been a solider or a subject to Nightmare Moon.... But she wouldn't even know the elements, nor the portal. And all the other villains would be able to take control of certain parts of equestria
1 likeSunset Shimmers Endgame might've been a major disaster
0 likesIt's only a theory that she was strong enough but might've been outnumbered from the crystal empire so she knew only one thing to do
SCORCHED EARTH
Yeah without that boom-boom Sunset would have no way of obtaining that power- In fact, I don't even think she would have had a motive in the first place! That waste-land, I personally think it's because of all the war and destruction brought about without the six friends.
0 likesYour theory for sunset not being able to do her plan was actully true!
0 likesNow, in a far off comer of Cybertron, a young Autobot who decides Sunset Shimmer must be stopped...
0 likesHis name is Rodimus
Could he be the Next Prime?
Easy answer: because EqG is a spinoff kept separate from the main series.
0 likesBut that's no fun.
I think you're on to something with your explanation.
Could you think about why cozy glow wanted to transport all magic of equestria to another realm? Is she from another realm? Why she couldn't absorb it all?
0 likesWell you said that the waste land timeline had no villain but what was the villain that was an emperor and was banished by gusty the great?
1 likeif the mane six were defeated there wont be a point so twilights element of magic wouldnt work but what about celestias?
0 likesshe was betrayed by her why not take her crown? the baren place can be possible of the war sunsets power with celestias crown would be so much damage her motive was power so her power grew and grew... destroying everything BUT she ended up destroying the land nothing to rule she ended all of it years after it grew to a waste land
Hmm so here's a thought what if the barren wasteland was actually a timeline of if celestia and luna were never actually alive cause before celestia and luna it was 6 unicorns who raised the sun and moon but without them the sun and moon wouldn't rise and if the sun was what was up when the unicorns no longer had the ability to move the sun and moon then it would cause catastrophic disasters to the land and atmosphere making one side of there planet so hot it would burn everything to ashes hense the dust being blown around and the brown clouds are really dust and water mixed together with no ability to actually precipitate due to the constant heat from the sun
0 likesI kinda feel the last area was so empty and dark beacuse the powerfull villains including Nightmar Moon, King sombra, Lord tirek, Queen chrysalis and even discord had a battle with each other cuze all of them wanted to be the ONLY one who rule the Equesteria so because of their battle they all have been defeated som how and there was nothing else left except an emptiness and darkness...
0 likesThat's what I think!
But how would Sunset Shimmer ruin Equestria if she was defeated because they were in the future then the one that ruined Equestria would be king Sombra
2 likessunset wouldn't have had the chance to become the she demon cuz if the mane 6 never met the element of magic wouldn't be revealed, neither would've the other elements.
0 likesThe reason we didnt see the sunset-timeline is bc, twilight did not become a princess, and the element of magic was still nowhere to be seen, witch means she can't sunset cant have gotten the element to the human world, Twilight never came to that world to get the crown bc the crown was still in Equestria!
0 likesPs: hope you read this!
I'm pretty sure the last timeline was because of discord somehow STILL coming into contact with fluttershy and then still being set free from friendship by tirek
0 likesLet's talk about Starlight glimmer why is she so powerful and remember when the mane 6 visited Starlight's village back in the end she had a spell she sudied for years but could never do
0 likesMaybe she could have some how use a spell to use the rest of them and do a different plan.
0 likesYou said about a waste land,right?
0 likesWell,Did you miss the part where twight said it was because of starlight.
Twilight did not become an allicorn. That might change stuff from what we see in the movie, where Sunset tries to steal her crown which would never be found like the elements and Sunset would not have an army of zombies. Just think about it. Edit: I did not see the whole video yet before making this comment.
0 likesRemember sunset shimmer's power.in that timeline there was no sign of life there wasn't even a sun or moon I believe that was the outcome of evil sunset
0 likesMy theory before I watch the video
1 likeSo I’m like a couple seconds in and I wanna answer why there wasent a sunset timeline
Now sunset put one the crown and become evil
But if twilight and her friends where never there there would just be the elements but not in their necklace/crown forms
That would mean that sunset couldn’t steal the crown and she would never be evil
Reply if you like this theory
Edit: soo umm I am basically half way through the video anddd well I basically just typed out what sawtooth said
Is it possible its an evil celestia time line? Daybreaker could potentially have been the reason why we see a barren waste land. A land scorched by the sun?
0 likesTheory drconoques existed and discord looked similar enough that people called him one and then they went extinct
0 likesTheory 2 there is a spirit for everything and they take different forms and discord chose to look like this and been so long he forgot he is the chaos sporit
The last timeline is clearly Fallout: Equestria. (Disclaimer: I don't know anything about Fallout: Equestria.)
0 likesI'd say that the baren wasteland could have been the parasprites. I mean they eat everything soooooooooo, they could have multiplied and eaten all of Equestria then gone extinct due to lack of food. Just an Idea.
0 likes2:04 Well, who almost did that was Midnight Sparkle.
0 likeswhat if the mirror world was not affected by the timeline alteration
0 likesbecause it's a different world with its own timeline.
Video Idea: What If Human Twilight (Sci-Twi) wasn't forgiven for Midnight Sparkle Indecent at The Friendship Games.
0 likesSawtooth Waves: remember the prophecy 'when the five are present a spark will cause the sixth element to appear That was Twilight SPARK
1 likeME: Thats why they named her Twilight Sparkle TO make the spark
I think that 7th timeline is what would Daybreaker do.
0 likesThe 7th timeline could be that cozy glow transported all equestrian magic to another realm leaving it without magic causing what is shown at 7th timeline
0 likesI think I know about that timeline
0 likesIt is all the timelines. With about 6 timelines of course their is nothing there. Equestria was doomed and the villens would have caused so much damage. The timelines are the same. Each Villain killed each other. Last got bored
This I just as crazy as me fixing It's about Time
How will Sunset know where are the Elements of harmony. Only if she knew where the Elements of Harmony were she could find them. Can you also make a video on how the Main Six got the same Cutie Mark after Starlight Glimmer changed the future cause there has to be an explanation of all of them have the same Cutie Mark they had before the changed future. Anyways Great Video.
0 likesIf the mane six never met, the elements couldn't have formed into the crown and necklaces they are today and said crown would have never been able to make it to the human world, having not existed, resulting in sunset shimmer graduating and peaking in high school to become a drug addict attempting to use Human Resources to make a potion that lacks the magic that goes into it, trying to recreate magic without knowledge as to how.
0 likesThe last thing could’ve been the storm king timeline where he took over???
0 likesWhat if that empty timeline was because of daybreaker...
0 likesYou always know all about my little pony and everything.
0 likesCause there was no crown within her reach I bet. If there even was the elements of harmony as six ponies, whoever they would be in the alternate timelines, a timeline where she is able to get ahold of the crown would be rare and few between. Like if noob minecrafter tried to find diamonds without any help or clue. So she would be without the crown for several timelines and/or never get it, ie impossible mission or it never existed as the crown. So if such a timeline where Sunset took over did exist, I doubt that barren timeline is the timeline where she got it, because I think it would take at least a 100 more tries at getting rid of the Rainboom to reveal a timeline where she succeeded. The barren timeline might've been the result of all the villian's fighting for control of Equestria or. . . Gulps and holds up Daybreaker picture this coming into play. . . Neither are good with the second possibility being worse than horrible.
0 likesWhy is always the Equestrian militairy/gaurds a white unicorn/pegasus? There’s only a few of them that are gray unicorns sometimes, and the ones in the Crystal empires is always like purple or light blue or something
0 likesI also think we didn't;t see Sunset Shimmer's timeline was because she came from a different world. All the timelines we saw were from Equestria. But Sunset comes from the human world. :)
0 likesI mean, The military isn't very good in MLP. Plus hypnotism can render them completely useless.
0 likesIt could have happened if Celestia made Twilight (or someone else she trusted) with the Alicorn Amulet. Like with no other choice she went out of her way to find it and gave it to someone she trusted. Given how the amulet can't be removed without the barer giving it up this spells so much trouble with Sunset.
Now before anyone says anything about how the Amulet would have a different effect in the EqG verse, with the sirens, it has been proven that not all magic becomes different in that world. This means Sunset would get the power of the Amulet and becomes even more corrupted ruining Equestria...Still I don't think she will take it that far as to make everything dirt and ash. She is still flawed and when shown another way, it is possible for her to be persuaded to take it off...
Or maybe an insane red manticore plays a part of draining her or something...
Makes me want to write a fan fiction around this.
Replies (2)
By all means do it.
0 likes@*Aura_Flower* o
0 likesThe reason that you didn't see sunset 'cause of the main six the ellement of magic became the crown. THAT never happend so.... No crown no sunset dragon creacer
0 likesThe rainboom changes every thing of the plot so rainbow dash is very important in mlp
0 likesSunset simmer might even have still been Celestias pupil still because celestia would hide it father in the castle so that no one could find it except for her and maybe Luna and celestia could explain to sunset simmer and maybe she'd even be a princess in that timeline well failing at certain times in the different time lines
0 likesMe: Scrolled by this video
1 likeMy brain: G O. B A C K.
I think that this time line was created by evil Celestia , maby Luna didn't become evil in this future and Celestia did and their fight ended out with the destruction of Equestria
0 likesMaybe that timeline was when the dragon was asleep and snoring causing black smoke to cover the sky and the mane 6 didn't go wake the dragon? Because there was no sunlight the land suffered and crops didn't grow
0 likesНу, знаешь, если у нас были миры со злодеями после найтмер, возможно элементы как-то появились, так что технически линия Сансет могла бы быть. Просто Сансет в другом проекте,в EG, поэтому её не добавили, вероятно
0 likesI an idea about that last timeline, now this is crazy but what if that was the "cozyglow timeline" think about it, she said "friendship is power" then trys to get drain magic, something dont add up i think there an unknown reason why she did that, but what if she did win and all the magic was gone, celesetia would not have the magic to raised the sun, making food to not grow and if the magic was gone in the day, maybe the couldsdale may need magic to make the weather and i know that thay could just get the water but what about the seasons, if couldsdale did need magic to make the weather, then seasons would not happened and if seasons dont happened, growing food would been really hard and would kill anypony...yes i know this really out there but hey this could have happened
0 likesBut you forgot something. Princess Twilight had the crown in the castle. But they couldnt do anything about that then she wasnt Even there in the first place.
0 likesMaybe the destroyed timeline happenned bc of Twilight, maybe bc she was not able to use magic she Just freaked out and started to do something that destroyed everything or something like that
0 likesMaybe the last timeline was of Grogar
0 likesI think demon sunset is related to king sombra because when u look at the eyes there both green so is the something in common
0 likesOkay guys hear this, what if Diamond Tiara true meaning of cutie mark is to be a leader, a princess even. After reforming tirek and cozy she realizes what her true future is, being the Princess of Forgiveness, not only to others but to oneself, cause forgiving your past and looking to the future is what she did. So then she becomes an Alicorn and Twilight that was expecting her student to be one gets super suprised.
0 likesI know why they didn’t use sunset if they never met up then there would be no element of harmony bam 💥
1 likeCan you do a Theory vedio about the wasteland alternative time line and who was the villian that caused it. I don't think you've done that one yet I could be wrong.
0 likesThat timeline looks like result of Nuclear war.
0 likesStarlight glimer's alternate timeline is the deserted world
0 likesHELLO DONT MISUNDERSTAND THIS: Celestia was trying to get sompony to take over her and her sister's thrones for when they retire. Celestia was doing it alone because she was seen more by the ponies, she rules the day and does all that other stuff. Celestia was trying to find many ponies like hope, sunset, and finally, Twilight Sparkle, who was perfect, finally. Sunset was not angry from the start and learned about the mirror unlike other ponies (and the other ones not to see the mirror for this reason,) and sunset saw her chance to gain power, and took it. after then twilight became allicorn but twi was not allicorn when sunset ran away to other realm, ok as you can see, I have a lot to say. if you have any questions pls reply.
0 likesCorrupt Versions of Luna and Celestia working together
1 likeIt was nightmare Moon cuz she was a evil one in the movie in the my Little pony movie because she was trying to take all everything inside a ponyville
1 like2:22 yup that’s sunset demon look in the sky isn’t that a SUNSET And if you’re thinking
0 likes“Oh that’s just a sunset”
Well look in the upper is black so it’s has to be her.
Replies (1)
My theory is she actually got to the portal but risked her tribe once she went in she used her power to rain chaos in the castle Luna and celestia were obviously warned but once they went up there she knew he would be defeat so she was ready she shoot celestia horn and Luna tried to fight her but her power is weaker then her sister so she failed she got rid of them in a pit once she was sone she rained terror across pony ills and the 5 main were there to stop her but without twilight, there magic was nothing she defeated them with the magic she had all elements and did something never before she destroyed it using the crowns she angled it to the crown and shot! The ground broke and dust appeared the ground was cactus like she rained over there for a couple millenniums until her rain was over the other villains rained there creating terror in equestrian with them ruling it was a wastE land of nothing.
1 likebut how would she have gottwn the crown as the elemnt has never been activated and made into a crown
0 likes @Sawtooth Waves hi i have one crazy teori what even tuching to the last alternativ space, but its realy hard to write it full, but for start its about one "pony" what show her self in basikly all big fights across all seazons and in Eguestria girls was person what look same but in EG she had Red hairs and slowly changing to White and in MLP was allready full White. Soo my teory is about As EG are acualy a long (around 50 000 years) past vz MLP and she no even survive what will hapen there, but allsoo maybe did it.
1 likeif yes She probably did even the last alternativ space as not mean to make thing worst but to Restart the World after probably global catastrofe (not just lokat as was all thing before even in MLP)(ps interesting thing in MLP when Tyreck steal all magik from ponies all for them was weaker, but you can see her when he kignap Main friends that she standing there without problems)sorry im not greath in English and i hope its interesting to you.
Wind, burn tree log, sand, created by hot wether.
0 likesWhy didn’t sunset stay in equestria she could have taken over the equestrian army’s or is it different?
0 likesNew video idea : Why does moo ndancer look like twilights mum
1 likeyou do make a good point
0 likesmarvel what if...? episode 1, what if sunset shimmer won
0 likesGonna admit, surprised there is a changing tier
0 likesAnother world we can only think about: Sunset becomes evil, yeah. But what if the mane 5 without twilight went to the castle and found the elements, with sunset going as well, she might be the spark they needed, with her becoming the princess of... well, whatever she would be. Then she becomes good, becomes Celestia's student again, and keeps going down the path of becoming an allicorn. Who knows? Also, Celie was trying to get sompony to take over the throne for a while. Think about all the other ponies she had at her school. Probably why she has the school. If not this, something else could happen. Who knows? ANYTHING can happen.
0 likesCan you talk about what is beyond the everfree forest
0 likesCOULD YOU DO A VIDEO ON LEGEND OF EVERFREE ??? like a theory or something!!!
0 likesSunset was a student of Celestia maybe Celestia want to teach sunset how to make friends cus shes a part of the elements of harmony maybe it needs to pop up if sunset could have discovered that she was apart of it if sunset could have discovered shes apart of it in the pony world not in the human world obviously its not gonna pop up there because shes not in the pony world shes in the human world that why Celestia wanna help sunset make friends like if you argee its only a Theory :) hope this helps
0 likeshey i have a question when sunset shimmer went into the human world what happened to the man sunset simmer i mean her clone from the human world
3 likesReplies (1)
1) She might be in a whole other place in Earth
0 likes2) She accually met her countrepart and pony Sunset proove her to go to the other world with her whole family but she lives in another land by transforming into another creature like a yack, a hippogriff or a zebra or much more with some sort of spells.
3) She lived centuries ago because I notice that if the piilars wherent in limbo for 1000 years, they will be already dead and I think in the human world, they are in history, same with the princesses and the principals. I think human Sunset lived in Middle Age
4) She doesnt exist because her parents never married here
How long is a allacorn life span?
0 likesBut, the crown wouldn't exist at all without Twilight
0 likesCan you please please please please please please please do a video on reforming king sombra. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
1 likeI don't think the power of the crown would carry over because sunset would change back to pony and since a: she would be a new kind of pony monster thing, she was a she demon in the human world so wouldn't she be some weird creature in the pony world and b: wouldn't the crown not be powerful because she is now in the pony world, if she changes in to a pony or something then the crown would not work. She would be no match for the guards also she could not be faced with guards, when Sunset stole the crown Twilight yelled so loud that the other mane 6 heard it and the guards weren't there. This kinda leaves a gap between this theory and the movie and the show, I would want an answer to these questions and once you do maybe the theory will change. :l
0 likesReplies (1)
Btw of course the other elements with out the crown the other elements would not be powerful not working at all and the human world would be totally different, Sunset wouldn't need to go to the human world, but when sunset said " I know all about this alternate world " it seems like she has went there before.
0 likesDo you wonder what happen to twilight castle when she no longer live there
0 likesIf Midnight Sparkle wasn't Defeated
2 likesReplies (1)
What if the SIRENS weren't defeated? if they got to restore their power to reach its full potential and travelled back to Equestria, in the movie they were restoring it little by little, somehow it would have worked somehow
1 like3:5t we did not see her, she was still in hums. World, wonder why she not come back to the pony world. And as a plan for, since you picture of her look like fire, he amost could set all the tree on fire and make a home of bad leaves. And take over ponyville
0 likesTwilight made that timeline
2 likesReplies (1)
Can someone tell me who put the thumbs up
0 likeswell I think it was nightmare moon and daybreaker timeline
0 likesThat’s some cool thumbnail
0 likesbronynotion i saw you watch studio c i recommend watching the older videos instead of the new ones
0 likesSimple Sunset would not get the crown of twilight if twilight never teleported to the human world.If the main six wasn't there then no one went through the portal to the human world except sunset herself
0 likesMaybe it was Tirek.
0 likesDear Sawtooth waves what is 30 x 24 = 720 so how many days are in 30 moon's it's 720 days.
0 likesIt could be daybreakers future
0 likesHow can she get the crown if the mane 6 didn't exist so the crown wouldn't exist so thats what I think
0 likesSooo... What's going on in the dessert future ?
0 likesshe could have don it in Another way
0 likeswell i just noticed that equetria girls and my little pony are simular look at sunset she became like nightmaremoon so the end might be same too my little pony
0 likesso what if the rianboom was pervented i think in know how it happend so sunseat would go back to the pony world and thout she didnt sucsed but the eleament of magic she would think its powered by magic right then she would use her magic then get the eleament but what if she took the other eleaments then the wastelank we saw could have been the distruten of deman sunset with all of the eleament thats how i think the wasteland came to be hope you like my sunset sorneo bye
0 likesReplies (2)
i mean it could not be the case but thats my vison
0 likesi forgot saying that she defeted celastia
0 likesi think that was a time line for sunset because sunset = sun which its fire and wahat are the effects BOOM ITS SUNSET TIMELINE which could have killed celestia and i dont sunset can fit BUT with the other elements gone there that could effect the element of magic which it could have whore off BECAUSE everything looks burnt SO THE WHOLE EQ COULD BURN TO FIRE!!
0 likesWhat If Sunset Shimmer Was Queen Chrisalis
0 likesWell the "Future" what there was. Was propably cause without Twilight and her friends wouldn't have defeaded all the "Bad guys". In the end all the bad guys like. King sombra and tirek and all would have destroyed themselfes. And the whole world with it. So yeah i think its like that.
0 likesAnd convince the twins to do it I feel like it is good look the land is bored burned
0 likesSo if rainbowdash never ever made the rainboom then-
0 likesThis isn't related to this particular episode but when Double Diamond bork the volt why was so wek
0 likesA course of the chaos erode in Road
1 likeI think it was grogar who cused the baron wasteland future
0 likesHi ummm I really like these videos you make and I had an idea you could use (or not I don’t even know why I’m doing this) it’s about discord at the end of the episode about reforming discord when flutter shy said “see he can be a real sweetheart” (or something like that) princess cylestia makes a strange face and my sister said that was because she knew that because maybe she had liked him a while back like before she had to turn him to stone. What if it had something to do with why he attacked equestria or something
0 likesIt.. IS... SUNSET!!!!
0 likesWhy did sunset want to take over equestria
0 likesThis makes total sense but what doesn't make sense is why that was there could it be possible that it was grogard tereck or cozy glow ?
0 likesHi I know you not going to see this but clear shy cutie mark dose not make sense to me like how dose she have a cutie mark with wind and sun as a unicorn?
1 likeLikes: 6.9k
0 likesMe: likes video
Likes: 7k
Satisfaction..
what about the storm king and tempest
0 likesSawtooth shark
0 likesAre you a shark cause there's a sawtooth in your name
And happy thanksgiving my bro ur doing good on Yt
0 likesStarlight was doing it for sunset because starlight and sunset were best friends ok and sunset was chosen and starlight . Starlight pass the test and sunset fail so yeah ok I know that
0 likesReplies (4)
Yep
0 likesThen you see the video you will know ok
0 likesSomething about starlight and sunset ok
0 likesBeing best friends
0 likesYa lo sé cómo sería y si son cestería no era uno aparece en la primera vez un pony dos la segunda vez cuando invito a twilight que genial y tres ya la vi en un episodio donde estaba tu ayuda y no sabía twilight regreso y no importan y dijo twilight si me verías de
0 likeswoah woah woah wheres paco taco? D:
1 likeBig fan more vids plz 😄
0 likesLike the element won't be a crown like that remember first episode
0 likesI still have the my little pony game
0 likesOh my..i dont know what to say now..
0 likesSee the red sky sirens
0 likeswhat about groger
0 likesomg smart
0 likesWhy in equestria high sunset shimmer doesn’t have a double because she was born in equestria so where is her double
0 likesHeart me plzzz
0 likesI’ve never been hearted
Wait I have an Idea
Sawtooth Waves
Sawtooth Waves
Sawtooth Waves
Will it work?
That’s true
0 likesAll evil
0 likesI think we didn't see her was because she never was there think about she the crown and she was defeated so in the time line she never was there 😳
0 likesReplies (2)
Sorry this is so bad 😅
0 likesI love your videos
0 likesNo I agree ☝️
0 likesno you war right
0 likesTrue
1 likeDecepticons invite enquta
0 likesI didn't see the one with flim and flam
0 likesI believe the timeline where Equestria was nothing more than a barren wasteland might have been caused by Daybreaker.
1 likeThink about it, what would an unrestrained Celestia do it she believed she could have it all. Perhaps she was tired of holding back and decided to make everything burn, maybe as an attempt to bring order to Equestria. Kinda like Judge Death in the sense that the crime is life and the punishment is death.
You are game theory
0 likesIs sunset from the human world if not where in pony sunset?
0 likesCrogar if I spell this wrong it is because I don't know how to spell it
0 likesHey I was wondering should I make a chanle like this?
0 likesSolar Shimmer
0 likesI think sunset simmer until bad
0 likesSunSet
0 likeshey demon is a bad word
0 likesHere is something we should not forget: Twilight would have ultimately become a princess and Spike would have been born regardless of how Starlight affected the timeline. Spike never disappeared and Twilight never lost her wings throughout any of the events we saw.
2 likesThis also implies that Twilight ultimately finds the Mane 6 and the element of magic regardless of what happens, possibly because they already ultimately found their ways to Ponyville before Twilight arrived, as seen in “Celestial Advice”. Perhaps one reason as to why the events of the alternate timelines happened was because Starlight caused everypony to either learn that bullying was a good example or want to become just as powerful as her, driving Chrysalis, Sombra, etc. to ultimately have high enough ambitions to achieve their dreams, but perhaps the sonic rainboom is indeed a magical explosion that increases the amount of magic in areas below.
In other words, we never saw a timeline where Sunset won because nothing Starlight did could have affected it, but this does not stop us from dreaming up our own timeline. Even if Sunset could drum up an army of victims, they may not do much past the portal because they would be forced to learn how to walk as ponies for the first time and perhaps stumble a lot, though I’m unsure whether there would be a 100% guarantee of ponification.
But let’s assume that Sunset and Sunset alone were indeed a force to be reckoned with. If the element of magic can indeed work without the other elements, who’s to say that the other elements can’t also work in isolation? Five of the Mane 6 would equip the remaining elements and, backed by Celestia, Luna, and Cadence, easily defeat Sunset. While the EQG series would not be as interesting with only six of the seven main characters, the outcome of Sunset’s misdeeds would likely be the same.
I'd would have liked to see a timeline where Sunset never became evil. I wonder how her presence would have affected Equestria.
0 likesMight be a good idea for a video.
2:23 My personal theory on what caused the "Barren Lands" Timeline is The Pony of Shadows. Now hear me out, sure the Pillars contained him but he was eventually freed when Sunburst found Starswirl's journal. He seems powerful enough to defeat the Pillars even at a weakened state, so at full power, I'd think the two sisters wouldn't stand a chance. His motive also aligned with what happened to the timeline, he doesn't want to rule, he wanted to "drain all the light and hope of this miserable world", with the potential outcome showing in the timeline.
0 likesAs for how he is freed when the Elements aren't formed, the answer is simple Sunburst. Elements or no, Sunburst is a knowledgeable pony with a love for antiques, meaning he'll eventually come across Starswirl's journal. He'll then try to bring them back to prove to himself that he is worth something even after flunking at Celestia's school for gifted unicorns. Perhaps he'll even have Celestia to help to prove himself to her. Once he freed the Pony of Shadows however, he'll be devastated that the Darkness may actually seduce him to the dark side too. Making the Pony of Shadows even stronger and eventually destroying everything.
I know it's a bit of a stretch but that's the closest thing I could think of what happened to this timeline.
You could’ve explored a hypothetical alternate reality, not caused by Starlight’s intervention, instead exploring what if she had managed to do it in the prime timeline. That way, you can explore what would’ve actually happened if she had made it to Equestria with the element and her army.
0 likesI think the “Barren Wastland” timeline could be something caused by someone really important, like Twilight or the Princesses. Hekk, this might even be Flurry Heart or someone else, as we don’t know how far into the future that timeline really is. I think it’s a very interesting topic nonethelees.
0 likesI always saw the barren wasteland as soemthing created of fire.
1 likeAnd there is an entire kingdom of dragons out there.
In my opinion, under Torch himself, an invasion of Equestria could even bring the ruin to the land.
But only under him.
What made Dragonlord Torch mad enough to burn Equestria to the ground? I don't have any ambition to know that.
First off, cute hairpin, it's adorable and you should wear it more often <3
0 likesSecondly, my thoughts as to what could've caused the destruction timeline, maybe it wasn't one person. We've seen villains able to team up before. What if it wasn't one entity, but most of the villains teaming up and draining everything from the land to get what they want? Each in varying degrees. When Chrysalis couldn't drain anymore love, she left to other places, leaving everyone permanently miserable. Tirek drained all their power to make himself the head monarch so everyone was weak and empty. Discord ran rampant with chaos, making these sad, tired ponies agitated and cynical. All the while they played with the ponies in their own twisted ways and stripped the land of all its sources and all its magic until... there was nothing left. The ponies were no more. The land of Equestria was no more. And soon, maybe... the world was doomed to fall apart.
But, hey that's just a theory.
A bit after watching this, I came up with an idea where Sunset could've succeeded, albiet the Rainboom barely has anything to do with it. Picture this:
0 likesSunset follows through with being Celestia's student, and eventually gets sent to Ponyville. The key differences so far is that Sunset still has power on her mind and there is no Spike to attract any form of Fluttershy. Anyway, she goes down to Ponyville and meets a few "Friends" (I'd say they would stay the same as Twilight's friends, except Applejack and Fluttershy wouldn't be there and probably are replaced by other ponies, who knows) and learns of Nightmare Moon and the Elements of Harmony. Flash forward, they arrive at the castle and face off Nightmare Moon. You see, I don't believe the Elements of Harmony are really drawn to good nor evil, the only reason they have done good is because the ponies using them were good. I mean you've seen what the Element of Magic itself did to Sunset. Instead of Twilight's Realisation of "Friendship is Magic and a strong force for good", Sunset's realisation would've been more like Cozy Glow's, "Friendship is Power which I can use." When she realises this, the Element of Magic shows itself (I imagine all of the Elements look like a corrupt version of Twilight's Timeline) and she destroys Nightmare Moon and by extension Luna instead of freeing her, and transforms into demon Sunset Shimmer. The other 5 would start running and their elements vanish, being scattered across Equestria Chaos Emerald style. Sunset Shimmer takes over, Celestia appears but gets defeated by Sunset, end of the world.
But what do you all think? Did I think too much into this as usual or-
Interesting take.
0 likesAlso: the plot thickens! Syannax is no longer on good terms with Sawtooth! Together with Yoshi Darklord, they continue to disappoint Sawtooth and our questions continue to stand unanswered.
I have wild theory about the military gear from Dragon quest. Camo is easily explained in researching animals but I haven't seen any Quards or Wonderbolts using the equipment that mane 6 had in the episode.
0 likesTheory goes this way Sunset or somepony went EQ world and bring back some wacky stuff that Equestrians can examine. The military gear was impractical for the Equestrian military because there haven't been any large scale war/conflict. Instead of scrapping the equipment, they just sell it as cosmetic.
And why I'm 3AM over analysing show that's target demographic is kids?
I feel like there could be another possiblity on why she wasn't in one of the timelines, the mane 6 could've somehow still found each other, except when they found the elements Nightmare Moon won, and shattered them. This could have an explaination. It could be that, their friendship just wasn't as strong and Twilight could've given the wrong spark to the elements. So, instead of fighting alongside Twilight with their designated elements, they probably just stood behind her watching. So, Sunset wouldn't have had an element to steal, not in the first place, but anymore because it's broken, or shattered.
0 likesWhat if the timeline thing had even more villains?
0 likesPony of Shadows: First, Sunburst and Twilight would have to have a different relationship than they had in the main timeline. They have to be much closer. One would find out about Starswirl's journal, and the two of them would find all those artifacts, release the Pony of Shadows, and since Twilight never met the Mane Six, no Elements of Harmony to help the Pillars, and no Cutie Map to tell them where Stygian is. The Pony of Shadows would then cover Equestria in darkness, and when Twilight shows up, she has to light her horn to see, but it has a much weaker light.
Windigos: Chrysalis causes distrust between the three pony types before the wedding, because of something happening, probably Trixie losing the duel, and ending up in the Changeling Kingdom instead of wherever the Alicorn Amulet was. When Twilight arrives, she is covered by snow, and the snow activates the spell, sending her back. Or, Flurry Heart destroys the Crystal Heart, covering the Crystal Empire in snow, and the Crystal Empire reflects this across Equestria, and all the ponies begin fighting each other
Trixie: Twilight still meets Trixie, probably during a Canterlot show, and after Trixie loses, she finds the Alicorn Amulet, and Magic Duel happens, but without the help of the Mane Six and Zecora, Twilight loses. Trixie then proceeds to take over Canterlot, and when Twilight arrives, everything is a Trixie show. Also, Trixie has banned wheels.
Sirens: They discover a portal to Equestria, and begin doing whatever they were doing before the Pillars. This would also cause the Windigos to arrive, but the Sirens somehow manage to control them.
Grogar: The energy from the Rainboom gets sent to space, and Grogar gains the power to escape by himself. When Twilight arrives, everypony is working their butts off for Emperor Grogar.
Starlight Glimmer: Complete starvation, but the ponies aren't dead yet, and there's still grass. No idea how Starlight even conquers Equestria, but somehow it's gonna happen.
Cosmos: Pretty much the Discord timeline, but much more malicious, with actual harm coming to the ponies.
Sunset Shimmer: Her plan no longer involves the Element of Magic, but now involves manipulating the other villains into helping her. Every villain mentioned above, plus Cozy Glow, Chrysalis, Sombra, Nightmare Moon, Discord, and Tirek would end up helping, and somehow, she would turn Celestia into Daybreaker, leaving Cadance as the only Alicorn Princess. Maybe Flurry, if the villains haven't already attacked.
Parasprites: Without Pinkie in Ponyville, the Parasprites devour the entirety of Equestria, leaving only Yakyakistan, because the yaks figured out the Parasprite music thing, with the Yovidiphone.
Also, in my headcanon, the reason Rainbow Dash is so fast is because Sonic the Hedgehog and Barry Allen blessed her as a baby. Don't ask why. Just don't.
I think I know what happened.
0 likesWe all know now that the elements didn't get discovered by Twilight and her friends because they didn't discover the magic of friendship.
And in the season 4 premier, the Tree of Harmony shows to be dying without the Elements of Harmony. And as Twilight said, each present is worse than the last. What would be a worse present/future for Equestria than for the Tree of Harmony to completely die off?!
Here's the thing. The elements don't get reunited with the Tree, and the Tree dies completely.
Now I know what you're all thinking, why didn't we see any of the vines or thorny clouds then?
Here's why.
The vines were able to grow when the trees protective power started to die.
So when the tree dies completely, it allowed the vine to grow to a massive level.
But when things start to overgrow, they can die off.
I believe that's what happened, is the vines got to overrgrown on each other, and consequently killed itself off over time.
But not before causing destruction to Equestria and its inhabitants.
Without the Earth ponies to take care of the earth, and the Pegasi to handle the weather, and without the overall protection of the tree, Equestria itself just died and faded away.
So, the butterfly effect stopped Sunset from succeeding in the alternate timeline? Huh, never thought of that. Great theory as always.
0 likesI personally think the last timeline that is empty and dull is the Starlight timeline. If she took all cutie Marks from equestria, the earth ponies wouldn't be able to grow food. Pegasi would't be able to controll the weather and the sisters wouldn't be able to do day and night. So all the ponies would die then and there would be nothing to see
0 likesShe could have done things differently by taking the five elements and merging them together to make the sixth element which could have obviously caused destruction in Equestria meaning that that lifeless timeline could've been hers but like you said, it's frightening because it's unknown.
0 likesI don't think Sunset could have used the Element of Magic... however, there are other sources of magic in Equestria that she may have been able to use. However whether she would have been able to get a hold of any of them is another matter entirely. Also I'm not sure that the Mirror would have been moved to the Crystal Empire had the Sonic Rainboom not happened, as it's likely that things would have played out differently and Celestia would have decided to keep it in Canterlot (she said she moved it there for safekeeping, but that's only because the Crystal Empire was safe after Twilight and them were able to defeat Sombra, without Twilight it likely wouldn't have gone as well).
0 likesAnother thing to note is that Demon Sunset may have turned more of the Canterlot High kids into those demon forms she turned Snips and Snails into, so it's possible that they could have been more of a threat than just regular zombie ponies. But that's hard to tell. Either way, Sunset winning at the end of Equestria Girls could make for an interesting fanfic or something.
Alternate timeline where celestia has to use the elements so the sixth appears. She stores them closer to her for emergencies, this keeps equestria safe. She takes them to the crystal empire to defeat sombre. That is how sunsets plan works.
0 likesI like to imagine that Sunset probably would've turned all the students into demons, like she did with Snips and Snails.
0 likesWhat if she was drawn to, and ultimately found, the human world's elements (the geodes)? She might have used the combination of those elements to overthrow Celestia. After all, those geodes give you interesting powers - reading memories and emotions, super speed, talking with animals, exploding sprinkles, shields and other structures, telekinesis, and super strength. I imagine a super powered evil Sunset travelling to overthrow Celestia.
0 likesThe Ash world, in my oppinion was always when Solar Flare/Day Breaker eclipsed Nightmare Moon. It just reminds me of a world burned to ashes.
0 likesI like to think that the cause of the apocalypse in the last timeline is Celestia. They have shown one villain after another and the next threat to Equestria beyond Nightmare Moon is Celestia herself.
0 likesBut heres the thing, when twilight got her spark it became a positive impact on the elements of harmony whereas sunset shimmers spark was the negative impact of the elements of harmony her deprive for magic was so negative because she was desperate but having that was a good thing because with the defeat of sunset shimmer she became a better person/pony and changed her error of her ways and now she has a home in the human world where she could use the element of magic usefully. Just like how daylight shimmer defeated midnight twilight; with the words of “ take my hand twilight let me show you theres another way, just like someone once did for me” that someone was twilight sparkle and with that sunset shimmer spread the element of magic across the world, so in the end i think it was better off not to have a sunset villian in the pony world.
0 likes1:39 what I think about that timeline. is actually a foreshadow of the "end". you know when all 3 villains mess everything up? they got so greedy that the world couldn't give them anything anymore. so what we seeing is a result if they have won.
0 likeswell that's my theory on that part of the timeline. it made sense to me.
because they turned the ponies against each other. also the villains would fight against each other once they have finished there 1st step. so when they fight against each other to spread there kingdoms. they end up with nothing. because little did they know. they need balance an order to live long and not let the world die off. like I said they have gone to greedy to really gone anywhere. like Tirek would keep taking magic an order to out power anyone in his way and Chrysalis and her children would keep taking love energy. knowing how bugs spread so many babies every year. is bad news for her to spread that fast just to out army anyone and anything. Cozy...I really don't know about her. besides her tricking each side so she would have the upper hand. she wont be trusted for long.
if I were Discord I would boot Tirek and Chrysalis out the world or just seal them in another realm. Cozy doesn't seem to be a type to actually worry about if you think about it.
Maybe the barren land timeline could have been formed by the group of tirek, cozy and crysalis when they came together. Cause the stopping of the rainboom would effect the future as well as the past
0 likesWell, in my personal oppinion, all posible multiverse and timelines, including the ones where Sunset Shimer won the battle against the main 6 , are existing in the same time. Just imagine our whole life is like a flipbook, it needs to be done so the animation can exist, so, in my oppinion, that happened in that episode from MLP too: from the beginning of whole universes those posible scenarious were existing; so there are already infinite of timelines where Sunset Shimer won the battle, and that episode where Twilight Sparkle made a loop in time was alewady existing too, she was only moving to a continuing timeline all the time she turned back in time, she wasn't actualy turning back in time, just creating a whole different universe and telling that Twilight, not to herself, but a Twilight with exactly same knowlege as her till that moment, than she came in and so on, with that we explained how she was 2 times, if was only turning back in past, (which in my oppinion is imposible without moving the universe as well) she was changing the knowlege of her ownselfe as well, that didn't happened.
0 likesIn the conclusion, in my oppinion, I think we saw a Sunset Shimer timeline, 'cause after a while, we didn't really saw what Starlight did to stop the main 6, so we can addmin she only opened a random timeline, and the one you talked about, the one with nothing but only chaos and distroies, is actualy one of the timelines where Sunset Shimer won.
The reason is because FiM never treated EG as cannon. Unless I'm missing something big, not once in all 9 seasons did any of the events or characters of Canterlot High get mentioned.
0 likes2:29
1 likeYou could see some fire dust and burned trees so it's possible that sunset was the reason and we all saw how she could make people into zombies so what if she won against the princesses and ended up destroying all of equestria
I also have a crazy idea! When starlight met sunset they got along pretty well so what if they met each other and because starlight is more powerful than twilight they got to the elements of harmony and used some kind of spell to create some powerful tool or the element of magic and that's how (starlight will get along since she was also left out like sunset)
there are only 7 timelines that we know of. I think that Twilight and Starlight went back and forth with who won and lost. Sunset could have won in one of the 6 timeline that Starlight lost.
0 likesSunset & Sirens timeline. She's smart, she'd come up with a new plan. The Sirens would be a great hint, as they would flock to any output of magic.
0 likesWhat I want to know is if there’s a seventh element (The Element of Empathy) in the Human world, which Sunset bears, is there a pony equivalent? Would it still be empathy? Is equestria girls considered canon in this case?!
0 likesGoing back to the elements of disharmony theory, what if sunset was able to corrupt the elements with 5 others? Would they then become the elements of Disharmony?
0 likesMy answer: Sunset crossed over and defeated the two sisters and well took over. She took control over all of equestria and that timeline was a land that Sunset would banish betraying servants/ponies
0 likesHas anybody ever thought about how they have the exact same cutie marks on the alternate timelines? The cutie marks they could only acquire by their shared moment by the rain boom? Specifically, look at Fluttershy and Pinkie’s flank in the Chrysalis timeline. Fluttershy still has her butterflies, and Pinkie has balloons like usual... So... Can somebody explain to me?
0 likesI've always thought that timeline was from all the villains taking over because the main six didn't know eachother and its not like the villains would agree they all have the same motive world domanation and we saw how three villains worked imagine if all the villains worked together Celestia probably wouldn't be the same Ethier imagine her in just a couple of years if the main six didn't save luna then Celestia would have to banish her or join her in evil
0 likesMaybe Sunset would have gone after the Alicorn Amulet instead. With no Twilight in Ponyville, Trixie would have never sought it out, so it would still be in that store.
0 likesThe last time line looked like the storm king's time line
2 likesSunset might team up with Microchip, that dude is pretty smart, with his tech powers, they might even rule multiple dimensions at the same time.
0 likesCan you explain each of the 7 timelines that showed up though? Like how that villain prevailed over the others and such~
0 likesJust wanted to say we never really saw the tantupus win either. Of course Luna wouldn’t have to have created it if she won as nightmare moon but she would have probably used it to get more power. But maybe that was the last vision.
0 likesStarlight only met sunset after season 6 in Equestria Girls Movie Magic so that might possibly explain why we never got to see if sunset was deafeated and it’s disappointing we never got to see Sunset in Friendship is Magic (an actually appearance) even though she appeared in Twilights group shot in the last episode.
0 likes2:22 My theory is that during that final timeline was If Midnight Sparkle from Equestria Girls: Friendship Games succeeded to open all the rifts and destroy all of Equestria. Since The Season 5 Finale and Friendship Games take place around the same time.
0 likesMaybe just maybe sunset went after Celestia's crown hoping it would give her some magical powers but Celestia's crown probably doesn't have magic and sunset wouldn't have anything to go after so she was never able to become vilan in the first place that's why we don't get to see her timeline
1 likeThe wasteland timeline is probably a result of all the villains taking over. They all collided and battled for equestria, destroying it while fighting.
0 likesHere’s my question: what if Sunset were killed trying to steal the crown rather than having successfully made off to the human world, with Princess Twilight forced to stand trial?
0 likesInteresting. Sawtooth Waves, this is completely unrelated but what do you think about my theory of Changeling. Do you have any theories about the origin of Changeling. You know i believe that maybe the reformed Changeling or as the MLP Fandom Wiki site called them Metamorphosis Changeling was actualy their real formed. The appearance many people hate might have been intended by the creator as their real appearance. I mean look at the folklore behind Changeling, they are an elve or fairy child that swapped by the dark or evil fairy and elve with human's child to get human love but in reality they are actually just a child with dissability or deformed body part that their parent renounced as their own child. I mean look at those deformed leg, tail and wing full of hole. They also always starved and very aggresive toward the ponies just to get love, something that they could nurture themselve and share among themselve. I believe that all this time Chrysallis rule as a Queen, she are actually just harming the Changeling without she actually realized it. The very same frienship she called "disease" was actually nurture from the love energy among the ponies, isn't it weird if she think that Changeling should not nurture it as it was "disease" but at the same time they should steal it from the ponies since they were starving of love energy ? My keypoint was that deformed leg, tail and wing full of hole, their aggresive personality and the constant state of starvation and their name "Changeling", looking into the folklore behind Changeling in our world. Beside, a lot of people said the new Changeling look like a hippy but if you look carefully the new Changeling with exception of Pharynx, their colour scheme was based on the nature like flower, vine and leaf around them. We never know where Changeling came from or their origin. Only the comic FIENDship is Magic which Hasbro never comfirmed. In fact the FIENDship is Magic for Sombra also go against what the official series have established, so i don't think that comic was cannon.
1 likeReplies (1)
On a site note someone told me maybe it's design was inspire by the European Stag Beeetle and Jewel Beetle.
1 likeWell ya see in sunset's transformation when she said to twilight "I have power and you have nothing" in equestria girls her hair glowed like fire now take a look at the final timeline it dusty windy and like ashes so my theory is that sunset must have came back to equestria with her teenage army and destroyed the land with her new powers well celestia will try a bit to make her good a again the she will fail leaving her prized citizens to fight on their own like you said in another video the equestrian military is useless so is celestia so sunset ruled over equestria winning by using equestria many moon ruler's uselessness
0 likesThat makes absolutely 100% sense why since that sunset's timeline didn't show
1 likeI think the last timeline that starlight created might of been her timeline if she wasn't defeated
0 likes1:50, I always thought that's what happened when Tempest and the Storm King weren't defeated.
0 likesThe last timeline was created by parasprites. Without the rainboom Pinkie Pie stayed on the rock farm and wasn't there to deal with the parasprites and they devoured everything in sight. When the ponies fled, nothing was left but a barren wasteland or rocks, sand, and the skeletons of a few scraggly trees...
0 likesWithout the rain boom none of this would've happened so I do believe that you're right that makes complete sense
0 likesI was actually searching up sunsets shimmer theories when I saw this. Also, what is everybody’s opinion on sunset?
0 likesI think sunset could of one by making an element with her own powerful magic
1 likeHypothetically if sunset had a motive I could see her leading a coup of some kind. I mean think about it, 4 villains each almost winning that’s too close- way too close and it only stated when Luna showed up so maybe they blame it on her? Maybe they think she’s still evil? Which leads to a civil war of some kind which kinda messes everything up??
0 likesReplies (5)
Really, the show should have touched on how all the bad guys kept popping up after Luna came back.
0 likesLike would Luna begin to feel like she's heralded disaster to Equestria by retiring.
@night shroud96 I agree it could have been such an interesting arc
0 likes@Rens Corner! And the fact she kept falling flat on her face after her return when some bad guy attacks. That or forced to be sidelined.
1 likeNo way she would be completely fine about that.
@night shroud96 I agree I think it would have been interesting to have the two sisters be more involved in the lives of the mane six maybe they even see a little of them selves in them m? (The sisters did bear the elements after all)
0 likes@Rens Corner! The fact the sisters weren't included in the final rainbow laser really adds salt to their wounds there.
0 likesI didn't think of it this theory before until this video... nice work!
0 likesBut if the Rainbow never happen, Sunset can't steal the element of magic since Twilight never find it, so she can't turn into that devil form.
0 likesNo ?
Maybe that was the reality where daybreaker took over and burned everything so it was devoid of life
0 likesThe canterlot guards have never actually been useful lol
0 likesSo ... "That's just a theory, a pone theory"? How have I not found this channel until now?
0 likesI feel sunset shimmer and starlight glimmer have a great connection
0 likesthere an easy answer on why we didnt see that timeline. Its because Hasbro doesn't want anything to do with equestria girls in the main series sadly.
0 likesWait... So, Luna's hair turned flowy after she became nightmare moon right? Because, Celestia's hair was flowy before NightmareMoon. So does that mean Celestia turned bad before Luna? (I don't mean Daybreaker)
1 likeI think the last timeline was if Daybreaker won and burned Equestria to the ground.
1 likeReplies (2)
@Hannah Ringer Her mane is literally made of fire, and she showed control over fire beams, breathing fire, and giant fire balls during her battle with Nightmare Moon
1 like@Hannah Ringer Yeah, she did in her battle versus Nightmare Moon in A Royal Problem
0 likesI think it's the human twilight. If sunset shimmer was banished, that means the portal was there. And also human twilight's access to magic. And Human twilight's motive was to steal all of the magic so she could study them. Maybe that's why the world looks so... Lifeless?
0 likesAlso, twilight might pull a tirek and stole all of the magic from others using her gadget.
Pop quiz question was...what happens when u bring AN ELEMENT OF HARMONY......not specifically magic...pretty sure 5 would have given her power enough...she only took it bcoz it was easily within reach....as far as the apocalypse....it could be bcoz of the villains fighting ( everything wouldbe collateral damage to them).......all of them .... no one to stop them....all wanted the whole of equestria.......yeah...that should do it....we saw the destruction caused in wars between creatures with immense power in twilight
0 likesV/s tirek....and it was just two beings
I love your vids! You should be "the pony investigation channel"
0 likesbtw i wanna tell you this just in case you don't know but grogar actually first appeared in the mlp 1800s/1900s version and also you know that we have mlp Equestria girls (practically the human ver ) but also in the 1800s/1900s ver ponies and humans actually lived together.So I'm thinking what if something happened between the humans and the ponies that made them decide to live separately idk what do you think? (plz response)
0 likesAnswer:
0 likesThe wasteland that has been created in the mlp world where starlight glimmer and twilight sparkle and spike travel time to time was the world when the land was never created the wasteland was a land when the god of mlp rested to create it and it could be true because the only true villians that normally exist are the other villians that are included to my little pony and it couldn’t be possible for sunset shimmer to get them into the portal she was focussing on twilight and her friends and an answer that sunset shimmer in her past she never became evil but follow the evil deeds and abandoned princess celestia’s teachings for her and chose to be a different pony and disobey the kindness surroundings celestia taught her again, it cant be possible because once she does it again the portal still wont work because remember it said that “the portal will be closed for 30 moons”
This is the wasteland that would have resulted if a bunch of highschool / college humans had come through inter-dimensional travel into Equestria...
1 likeGUYS !!! STOP LOOKING FOR THE PORTAL !
Sunset could have used her magic to find the final element
0 likesHi Sawtooth i love your vids and just got into the brony fandom a few months ago because of your vids! Thanks! Also can you do a video on Cozy Glows parents, if you want to, that is. Sven gala looks a little like Cozy Glow, Their colors ar similar, but i dont know who the possible mother could be? Thanks alot for ur vids! Hop you liked my idea!
0 likesI thought that if the main six never met, the the elements wouldn’t have existed either? I mean, they did discover them...
1 likeReplies (1)
The elements where created by the Pillars of Equestria. This was explained in the episode 'Shadow Play', pt. 2 (I think)
0 likesThe look of the thumbnail looks nice! :>
0 likeshow would sunset have even succeeded once twilight had won the fall formal? she threatened to destroy the portal with a hammer but wouldn’t it just have gone through the portal?
0 likesSawtooth I just realized something you could do a theory on
0 likesIn Equestria Girls Spring Breakdown Sunset, Twilight, and Rainbow Dash go into the pony world, and in The move Forgotten Friendship and some other movies Twilight has wings that means she’s an Alicorn right? But in Spring Breakdown when Twilight and the others go in the pony world but the human Twilight that was turned into a pony because she went into the pony world doesn’t have wings! This is just an idea of it I don’t know if you do the Equestria Girls but here’s something.
What if sunset could get the element of magic to apper? But what if sunset got a friendship with other villans and could reach the elements of harminy including magic, but when she did they would have turned into the elements of dishamarny because sure the villans would be friends but in a different way but for the the dishameney element of magic to apper and if the disharmany version of magic was a disharmany it would cause the other elements to become disharmany- ish as well.
0 likesBut what if sunset DIDNT trip over spike’s tail, they wouldn’t have ever known that the crown got replaced, thus twilight would not need to do into the portal. That way sunset’s teenage zombies could have worked out.
1 like@Sawtooth waves，I think you can do a “what’s all with the glowing hairs”
1 likeIf the main six wouldn't meet Twilight she would never discover the magic of friendship, night mare moon would be able to destroy the elements completely and sunset wouldn't stand a chance.
0 likesMy with of thinking is that it was all about Fanfic. See now every story from Cup Cakes to Trotting Dead can become real because not main six to stop it from happing. That how I want to make believe that Fallout Equestria can be canon.
0 likesMaybe that was the timeline where Starlight succeded, i mean the first time
0 likesWell Maybe Sunset is still Celestia's student becuase the rainboom gave twilight the power to open spikes egg and if sunset was still celestias student then left and was good maybe she found friends And She had the spark instead but.. then left for an unknow reason and became evil and so did her friends so they overthrew celestia and become the new rulers of equestria
0 likesWhat if the that unknown timeline was what it would look like if Equestrianever existed so let me explain it would be a timeline where all the villains teamed up and ruled Equestria together that means the Mane six never defeated any of them and and the elements of harmony would be covered in malignant roots and vines because the Mane Six's friendship wasn't there to keep them at bay and also I'm pretty sure that they would be living in eternal darkness cuz Nightmare moon would destroy Celestia or just keep her in a prison and destroy the sun. Anyways they villains would be there doing villainous things until Starlight and Twilight pass through their timeline and Queen Chrysalis would see them and follow them but to make sure that they don't notice she'd make a copy of the spell and would bring it to the other villains. She'd tell them about it and ask them what they should do with it Discord would suggest using it to go back in time and take control of the founders of Equestria but the others would deny it saying that it was too risky and that it would and it would have a dangerous effect on the timeline Discord would act like he agreed with them so that no one would suspect anything until in the middle of the night he would take the spell and use it to go back in time to put his plan into action. He'd go back in time and would use his power to attack everyone in sight thus eliminating them then he'd eliminate the dragons, the Yaks, and the Kirin he'd try to eliminate the hippogriffs but would fail and give up then he'd go back to his timeline and find everything decimated there is no one and no life in sight and it was all a desert. The villains were gone the only ones living would be the Hippogriffs but they would still be in hiding. Sad, Angry, and Confused Discord would lay on a rock to think about what would have caused this to happen then it would hit him it was his actions that caused this. The Changlings would have been starved to death because the ponies would be gone thus giving theme no love to feed off of, Tirek would also be gone because the unicorns would be gone and no magic no food no life, The Flim Flam twins would be gone cause the they wouldn't exist if they were never born, Nightmare moon and Celestia wouldn't exist cause they'd destroyed cause the unicorns would be destroyed and they would have never been born. Destroyed to realize what he has done Discord tries to use spell to fix what he had done but Starlight never existed to make the spell so now he lives alone looking for others to help him fix all that he has done.
0 likesIf your last theory is right then nightmare moon would not have defeated and the other villian would come in her reign only and the would have a war a big one and then the all are defeated by the elements not anything else that means they are equally strong so who will win?
1 likeThats a big question...🤔🤔
0:16 Because without Twilight we wouldn't have the crown, and without the crown Sunset doesn't have a plan, but hey, that's just a theory. Aaaaaaaaa My Little Pony Theory. Good night.
0 likesEdit: Lol, I predicted the video.
I think mostly sunset shimmer came after starlight glimmer that's why they didn't have a timeline with her
0 likesIn the darkworld realm with no leader could have been cozy glow’s wrath because she tried to erase all magic she would end everything without magic
0 likesWhat if in that empty futur time line is when starlight finished her plan then no talents and harmony and then nothing can get done so coul'd become chaos and endup empty.
0 likesmaybe that timeline has something to do with Grogar being back
0 likesThese theories are too complicated to be for a kids show
0 likesMaybe the wasteland is because the wrong use of magic from celestia's lessons and having a fight with celestia and destroyed the land
0 likesHere are some video ideas
0 likesWho are cozy glows parents
Why did rarity's parent leave her
Why is discord the only deconerquise in all equestria
What happened to gusty the great( because last time we saw her was stealing grogar's bell then she just disappered)
How did discord come to equestria if he was living in a demenion the whole time
Where did the changlings come from
You know Equestria girls friendship games, you know the ending were Twilight came and see her human side she say, she had to go back in time lap and was the craziest thing that happened to her and believe nothing happens in the human would at all
1 likeIn the beginning of the end part 2 there where pagues that where crystal ponies that had wings and the crystal empire are only earth ponies and I hope you can do a vid on it you can see for your self :)
0 likesMy MLP motto: lore, not the vore
0 likesok here me out, i have 2 theories:
0 likes1. ok so my first theory is for why we didn't have a sunset shimmer timeline. think about it; if twilight wasn't a princess, she would never have gotten her crown, so sunset wouldn't be able to steal anything, and also if princess cadence was taken over by sombra, then the portal wouldn't be there but still at the royal palace, which she wouldn't be able to get out of without getting caught, so she wouldn't have even got an element in the first place. and if the main 6 weren't friends the elements would still be unavailable to her for her to use, because they had no one who showed all 6 qualities who could bare all the elements. so therefore, she wouldn't have magic and she wouldn't have even brought it into her world, so she wouldn't turn into a demon and the humans wouldn't have any way of accessing the pony world because there wasn't portals everywhere leading to it.
2. my second theory is for what timeline lead to the waste land. ok so if we go in order, nightmare moon would've sealed celestia away in the moon if she won, which means there was no one to stop her, but the other villains would still come. like discord would awaken, so he would probably try to take over equestria for himself, then seeing all the chaos, chrysalis would still need to feed her hive, so she would also fight for equestria, also, tirek would still break free and get his strength back, he also wanted equestria, so he would also fight. think about it, if all of these powerful villains were to all fight against each other, what do you think would happen? that's right, everything would most likely be destroyed, including the villains themselves, resulting in, you guessed it, a wasteland.
i hope you read this! and if you do, thank you I hope you like my theories!
Replies (4)
Since NMM said she ruled for a few years, most likely she already dealt with Discord there since he would have broken free within less than a year.
0 likesShe must have dealt with the other villains too.
@night shroud96not true, are forgetting that it took all the elements to defeat him? which NMM doesn't have btw. also discord is literally the god of chaos, so it would take way longer to actually defeat him, and also almost right after discord would be broken out of his case, I'm pretty I'm sure it was chrysalis attacked, so therefore, all the villains would still end up fighting each other at the same time. also do you really think that all the others would just wait after equestria was taken over? noo, they would challenge her for the throne.
0 likes@Lemon Leaf ...Nightmare Moon.
0 likesIts a abbreviation for her.
@night shroud96 ik i realized that. be sure to loomat my edit tho!
0 likesWouodnt it be epic if this evil version of her was named ‘Eclipse Rising’
0 likesReplies (1)
So we'd have Nightmare Moon, Daybreaker, Midnight Sparkle and Eclipse Rising?
0 likesNoice.
umm i kinda have a theory
0 likesin the episode royal problem luna said to celestia
do not presume how its like to govern the dream realm
so luna is the governer
so there are already so many people in the dream realm and luna is only the leader
so in your theory who will replace luna they just pick a new governer
As people could live there and Luna is just a visitor
Maybe sunset shimmer could've studied magic to the point were she would be able to teleport the 6th element. She could've used the magic she learned to get the elements to work for her. I'm not good with theories and this is just what I think.
0 likesReplies (1)
Or maybe without twilight there sunset would lose her motivation. If that happens then starlight would have almost no one stoping her from stealing the cutie marks from all ponies and she succeeded but it turned out bad as you saw in the 7th timeline
0 likesWhat if She was ruling Beside someone..Someone who wasn't In The timeline but appears in the Finale. COZYGLOW. They did not show Cozy Glow to spoil the movie.She was Looking for the most powerful crown. She waited for the next princess.
0 likesYou know how you said in one of your videos that sunset did not repent till after she was defeated a twilight did not well what if she did not repent because she did not have any friends to remind her but twilight did and her servants were already turned evil so sunset would not have turned evil if she had friends I know this is not a theory on this video but I want to say it anyway because we did not know anything about sunset living in equestria all we know is she was a student of celetia sorry can not spell her name
0 likeswell if you think about it sunset wouldn't of been evil because twilight wasn't celestial's student
0 likes1:50, I can't be the only one from when I saw that scene, I thought of Swag.mov lmaooo
1 likewell technically if the mane 6 never met sun set would probably be celestia's idk what or in the human world just living without a crown or anything that is from equastria
0 likesMaybe Sunset Shimmer cause a MLP version of the SCP-001 "When Day Breaks" event or... Maybe Daybreaker can do that...
0 likesi think sunset lost to celestia and destroyed eqeustria so no one can rule eqeustria if she cannot
0 likesHi Sawtooth! So I have a question about Thorax. When he says Pharnex is his brother, what does she mean? I mean, isn't all changlings his brother, or are there changling families?... Also subscribe to my channel FallAndFlameTheFoxes!
0 likesThe wasteland is maybe Starlight successfully taking over Equestria
0 likesOr
Fallout Equestria confirmed
Can you do a video explaining how pinkie pie came out pink while her sisters parents and even twin sister came out grey and muted purple.
0 likesMLP: This show is for all ages!
0 likesAlso MLP: Haha death,slavery and brutality go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Well everything would be butterfly effects
1 likeI think that if no one was their defeat sunset shimmer if she went to eqestria she would honestly destroyed eqestria & if starlight was still evil they would team up and take over eqestria
0 likesThe final timeline world exist with a few possibility, all the villain in Equestria destroying each other cause this apocalyse or Twilight become the most sinister overlord and kill every living things in the planet.
0 likesI can answer the question
0 likesTHE PONYS ARENT THE HUMANS. We never here about anything in the show about tmhe movie that’s why
Sunset could of envyed someone else then and that could of lead that sunset shimmer not knowing what friendship is then twilight could.of met her friends their. and then twilight and her friends helped turn everything back to normal
0 likesshe got the powers of twilights crown and without her friends she wouldnt have it without her friends
0 likesMaybe Sunset brought some nukes to equestria
0 likesI don't think this is true cause if twlight didn't find friends she would've stayed in canterlot and the mirror was in the crystel empire so sunset isn't a villain she is just a bully
0 likesSunset wouldn't even have the crown if twilight wasn't around bruh
0 likesYou know we didn't see the shadow pony
0 likesDemon pony Sunset looks cool tho
0 likesUr oc is looking good with that clip on ur head
0 likesI have ideas for ur next video...if u need some...
1 likeAbout rarity
About apple jack's parents
About how changelings look in the human world...???(my biggest doubt)
About why starlight and Aria blaze look the same
About how Apple Jack's parents died
AND I think Octavia Melody and DJ Pon 3 are SISTERS🤔
AND I saw that Lyra and bon bon, AKA "agent" sweetie drops are... MARRIED (I saw it when I looked closer at the newspaper that twilight was looking at in 'the last problem ' ) !!!
Can u call my name in ur video? Or at least show my comment?
It could be that last timeline if starlight stole al the cutiemarks from evryone and that would happen
0 likesMaybe It is just because the budget isn't enough
0 likesMLP has the same mystery as FNAF
0 likesI think?
What if sunset shimmer timeline did happened what if everytime rainbow dash do the sonic rainboom a different timeline is created👍
0 likesI think i know....THIS IS GROGARS TIME LINE!!!!
0 likesReplies (1)
Ok to night mare moons time line in this time line she did take over but what if grogar and night mare moon knew each other grogar had helped her escape and in return she had freed him and in wich he came back yet he had been decitful he wanted to END PONY KIND! so he had used his old magic bell and destroyed every pony but with nobody to feed the land raise the sun and moon or to change the weather....he killed every thing because every creature DEPENDS ON PONY KIND and he ended by killing himself in the proses.....think about it it kinda sounds like somthing that would happen
0 likesSunset shimmer or midnight shimmer, the magic are equally powerful for the mane 6 and that monster, can u make a vid the is about what if the mane 6 became daydream
0 likesBut what happens if Sunset was super successful that she became princess? Honestly don’t know where I got this idea- I just started typing
0 likesWait, what happened to the human sunset shimmer. She was from the ponyworld.
0 likesDu du dun
Why did sunset shimmers magic turn to Light blue to dark red
0 likesIs no one going to talk about the fathers in his head
0 likesMaybe you should say "but hay the just a theory a mlp theory" in the end of video
0 likesWait a minute.
I feel like you just a Matpat in Disguise.
All you need to do use voice changer and voice editing, and the reason why his video quality isn't the same as Matpat's video is because He has to do this secretly so noone will know that he is a brony.
Ya but then sunset turned nice she just wanted attention and friends
0 likesYeah I was thinking that the whole time haha
0 likesMy idea is the desolate wasteland is Celestia or should I say Daybreaker
0 likesHey sawtooth why don't u do a video about why sci twi was a unicorn in the pony world and an alicorn to in the human world sunset should b an alicorn here and there right ?
0 likesPls make it happen 😸
Without her friends she could not get her element that's why sunsetshimer was not seen
0 likesthat's the fipping shadow pony's undefeated worled
0 likesThe intro really got me thinking
0 likesReplies (1)
Yeah, I also think about WHEN DID I COMMENT THIS
0 likesYo know she just burn the place I guess something get wrong in that future.
0 likesThis is the worst ending!
0 likesI think this timeline for me and my sparkle
0 likesI think that sunset shimmer is twilight’s secret sister and she don’t have the crown
0 likesWell I guess you are correct but if rainbow dash did not get her cutiemark because of starlight then twilight did not become a princess so....sunset could not have stolen twilight's crown.....that means she did not have become a demon.....
0 likesWhat will happen if sunset shimmer have a fight with princess celestia
0 likesWait apple jack rainbow dash and flutter shy have sunsets colors…does that mean if they never met the rest that theyed be evil?
0 likesI wish I got hearted and pinned.... I work hard on my theories too
0 likesMe:goos video
0 likesMy friend:hE LoOkS gAy!
Me:wait wha-
I REMEMBER WATCHING U LIKE 5 YEARS AGO OML SORRY BUT I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT YOU
0 likesLove ur videos 😍🐼🖤💖💞
0 likesI think it was storm king
0 likesWell discord's timeline didn't show up either
0 likesAll the future and I decide to go see a girls night out with Sarah and her magic powers that you do I baby what is burger and a beer
0 likesOooooo little cute pom pom leaves in his hairrrr <3
0 likesThe elements would not have existed
0 likes<3
0 likesNew season in my little pony in YouTube
0 likesLooks like.....your voice changed
0 likesCan you post more afternoon
0 likesThere was no crown because twilight didn't came to Cristal empire
0 likesNo its starlight
0 likeswhat if it was not sunset what if it was human twilight
0 likesWOWWWWW
0 likesWhatever it is but keep work with your work in urdu we say apne kam se kam rakh
0 likesYASSS
0 likesCan you make a video abot starlight glimmer and sunshine glimer
0 likesI word .......Grogar
0 likesU never pot discord happen the bell & discord become monster form like grogar
0 likesDaybreaker
0 likes😊
0 likesOMG
0 likesmaby sunset wontid the elemint so shy can distroy inqestriya and shy olso wontid to brak frenship
0 likesI just see that This is a today video
0 likesI hate sunset shimmer
1 likeI love twilight
I know but anyways what happens welcome flag in the book sunset shimmer garden and emotion but how does a magic and six elemental it means I know it means can I be the one to both of you singing like the feelingslime place to yeah
0 likesNo twillight: no crown: no evil sunset or magic thing of this neclace ( or how ever you write that sorry im german )
0 likesIf the elements had never been connected to the main 6 by their friendship then no one would have Beaufort them back to the tree of harmony and then the forest would have overgrown so for any of those futures to be real somepony would have had to bring the elements to the tree of harmony, which means that some pony did have the elements
0 likesSunset Shimmer
0 likesAsk sunset
0 likesTrue
0 likesBest
0 likesDo you think spike lothers sunset shimmer
0 likesWell the black thing
0 likesNot Sunset shimmer
1 likeThere one more it day dreamer I have never seem her
0 likesNo offense but aren’t you a little old to be into all this mlp stuff. This show ended.
0 likesSunset shimer is nice
0 likesIt was the windicos
0 likesTwilight mad
0 likesyes true
0 likesfudge, Im always late cmon youtube
0 likeshey changeling what where you doing then??
0 likes🍖 zoo
1 likebecases sunset shimmer was in another world
0 likessunset
0 likesWhere is your next video
0 likesif the main six never met, twilight wouldn't have gotten her cutie mark and enrolled in the school of magic. The only reason she became celestia's star pupil is because of this. And the reason sunset shimmer became a villian in the first place was because celestia found someone else. if twilingt hadent been there, sunset wuld have remained celestias star pupil meaning she wouldnt have haad a motive to become aa villian. secondly, the elements wouldnt have been use because the main six never met, which means that they probably would have remained lost for all that time. Therefore sunset would have had to know of their existance in order to seek them out. And no one would have known of their power anyway.
2 likesHm, this is interesting to think about.
2 likesI think that sunset probably would have kept looking for different ways to invade equestria without the element, and without anyone to stop her (the mane six obviously aren't united because twilight's not princess and therefore never in contact with the mirror anymore.) she could very well have manipulated and threatened her way into adulthood, (and if their human world is anything like our human world) possibly leading an entire country or the entire world into war against equestria with the promise of a new brighter future using magic. This would have let her bring things like nuclear weapons and such to equestria, the likes of which they'd never seen and would struggle to combat knowing nothing about them, explaining the barren, destroyed wasteland.
I don't know this got sort of headcannon-y.
Great video by the way!
I like to imagine the wasteland timeline is a nod to the FO:E fanfics. They don't need to say who caused it, because in the fanfics it ultimately doesn't matter who pulled the trigger first.
2 likesI remembered a time when Sunset said "do you know what happens when someone brings a magical element from another world?" or something, but so far we have not had a clear answer. I think it fits very well here too. My theory is that when someone brings a magic element to another world, that same world they were taken to becomes dependent on that same element. So if that element is taken away, the world creates a new force to replace what was taken away to balance the empty space in time. Which would give another meaning to the Cutie mark of Sunset Shimer, which has the symbol of the universal balance of good and evil but without "good in evil" and "evil in good". This is because there is no good or bad to balance, only the magic between the two worlds, sealed by fate.
0 likes...
Perhaps ... in these alternative realities, Sunset never betrayed Princess Celestia, but since Sunset never knew the power of friendship none of this was worth it ...
Here's what I had assumed the "Wasteland Timeline" was.
1 likeSince Starlight prevented the rainboom, when all the villains returned among their respective timelines, they arose victorious. We all know this. However, my idea is that, since the Mane Six defeated all of the villains on the same timeline, who's to say they couldn't all come back on a common timeline and cause mass destruction without the Mane Six to stop them? I believe that the Wasteland is a result of a massive clash of power, specifically, the villains' power, (I know that specification was unneeded, but I had to finish the sentence somehow) and in the end, they destroyed each other and everything around them.
I apologize if time was wasted reading this, but I hope you enjoyed me rattling on about my thoughts!
Edit: I'm looking back on this and seeing how confusing this sounds....
i remember seeing some theories going around that the wasteland timeline is actually starlight's. we don't know what her true plan was in turning everyone equal but considering how important they are and how incapable the ponies after being stripped of their cutie mark, the results could've been devastating.
0 likesimagine if starlight got the cutie marks of celestia and luna. they could no longer raise the sun and moon. if starlight wanted to rule equestria this way. I could imagine society falling apart as no one would be able to do what is necessary to keep it thriving.
maybe this a stretch but the fact that that's the timeline twilight shows starlight to show the consequences of her meddling with time could've been a hit or something.
The part that always got me about Sunset...is...how did she even know about the crown. Where was she and who could of gave her this information about it? Because if I remember right the portal was closed. So the only thing I could think of was...maybe she was connected to it in some way.
1 likeAs for the barren wasteland alternate timeline, my guess, would be Luna. It was because of the mane-six she was defeated and the darkness in her destroyed. But what if she wasn't? If you think about it...if the moon over took the sun...there'd be no plants, no water, no life...just...nothing. There is a faint glow of yellow in the background but lower to the horizon with a dark shadow above it. So, it almost feel like an eternal eclipse. Also, the table map, shows little to no housing. Maybe ponies took shelter elsewhere or underground.
The whole wasteland timeline sounds so different from the rest. It's been seen that Equestria was still able to somewhat have some life in it, even in timelines where a villain took over the land. A universe where almost nopony exists would likely require some really big thing to have happened, as if a nule was dropped there or something
0 likesThe only idea I have is that in that exact timeline, all of the villains were taking over, but they soon started clashing with each other cuz each wanted all of Equestria to him/herself. This big clash actually led to all of them..."ending" each other, leaving Equestria completely destroyed
IK it's a pretty bad theory. I just thought of it cuz we've seen some villains take over & it'd be cool to imagine all of them fighting but leading to that timeline occuring
I always thought that the last timeline was caused due to Nightmare Moon's everlasting night. Meaning the ponies' main food source of plants could not flourish, and thus would deplete the food supply. Leaving the ponies starving and thus they could no longer take care of crops and land, thus leaving Equestria a barren wasteland.
0 likesI think that the universes were causually isolated from each other, as in, if time travel affects one universes timeline, the other would experience no effect, so nothing was really happening over on the human side
1 likeI love how this man made a super compelling theory and I was like okay yeah...then debunked it and I loved every minute of it 🤣🤣🤣
0 likes2:25 I think that unknown timeline might have been Starlight’s timeline. How? I’ll explain it.
1 likeSince the mane six never came together, there wouldn’t be any barriers for Starlight’s cutie mark philosophy back when she ruled that village. Her plan was to make all of Equestria give up their cutie mark, and she could’ve spread to other areas of Equestria. She could’ve cast a spell to her village in order to help her take over one area. After that, she would unite all those who lost their cutie mark as part of her army. It kept getting larger.
With the staff of sameness, she could’ve secretly have took away the princesses’ cutie marks, and probably used all of the cutie marks she got to make herself powerful and stronger. Without anyone stopping her, she would’ve caused even more damage to everyone and maybe even got to a fight with Celestia and Luna, and since she’s good with magic, she would’ve caused a lot of destruction. And eventually defeating them. And with all that power, she would’ve probably destroyed several parts of Equestria because she was angry of her past and could’ve gonce crazy over it. And leading up to a wasteland.
I think the last part of Starlight's alteration had to do with the war between the ponies and the imps. I believe that the imps are responsible for all the barren wasteland that Starlight did that Twilight showed to her. We believe that th imps should have been the next villains after the defeats of the three villains.
0 likesI always wondered what that wasteland dimension was... I mean, there's really no other villain that- wait.
1 likeOK, I know this is going to sound crazy, but what if it's Trixie? The alicorn amulet corrupted her and gave her a whole lot of power. And if what you said in your Sombra video was true, it could be possible that it corrupted her to such an extent that it transformed her into an alicorn? Also, I know this is a bit out there, but stay with me on this one--- The way Trixie "ruled" always reminded me of Scar from the lion king. And the outcome of HIS ruler ship ended in a dead, wasteland much like we see in that future. What if Trixie was in the same position as scar in this situation? And I know you said that there wasn't any structures there, so you couldn't tell what happened... BUT. Same as Scar, the environment would have crashed and burned. That land could possibly be a destroyed Everfree Forest. 🤔
I figured the last timeline was one of two: results from the parasprites eating everything. Or two, discord. After all, when I think of chaos, I think of multiple stages of it, starting with a bit of disorganization and confusion, And ending with a waste land of nothing.
1 likeAfter a lot of thinking upon my multiple theories, it would make the most sense if the scorched wasteland timeline was of Daybreaker. Perhaps Nightmare Moon won in this timeline as well but didn't kill or banish her sister, but rather imprisoned her. After a while Celestia would likely be driven mad and turn into Daybreaker. Being able to control the sun she could easily scorch the land and pretty much everything would be dead. Just like in that timeline.
0 likesReplies (2)
very interesting!!!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves Oh I wasn't expecting to be noticed lol. Thanks for the heart Sawtooth! Love your videos!!!
0 likesWhat if that desolate future wasn't the result of Sunset's victory, but rather her FAILURE?
1 likeFor starters, without Twilight's interference, the human versions of the mane 6 (minus Twilight) would still have been broken up by Sunset's meddling, and would not have become friends again because there was no Twilight to bring them back together.
Sunset wouldn't have had the Element Of Magic to win during the Fall Formal, but considering she'd won the previous 3 years, I imagine she'd go to win it a 4th time, even without the added bonus of the Element of Magic. However, without the Element, there'd be no big fight, no pony-up, and no character growth for Sunset.
However, after this the sirens would still come to Canterlot High and gain power from the negative emotions. And without their magic, the element bearers and Sunset would be just as vulnerable. The sirens would easily take over the school.
Sunset would be completely powerless to stop them, and they'd continue on their path to conquest the whole of the human world.
However, human Twilight may still have a chance. She might still develop her magical device, and with the sirens completely in control of Canterlot High by now, they'd plan to take over Crystal Prep using the negative emotions caused by the fierce competition in the friendship games - really the perfect opportunity for them to do so. Having complete control of the school, they can rig the competitions in their favor, and feed off the anger and frustration.
With he tensions so high, Principal Cinch of Crystal Prep would be more than willing once again to have Twilight compete on their behalf.
With all the magic in Canterlot High drained by the sirens, and the portal not having been deactivated by the book, Twilight's device would lead her to only one place - the sirens.
The device might only take one of their magic first, but after feasting on the whole school, it's quite a bit, causing a rift to open up immediately. The remaining sirens flee and the competition continues.
They get more powerful as Crystal Prep is already so competitive, it hardly takes any magic to wind them up further. Twilight's device absorbs more magic as the sirens absorb it from Crystal Prep.
Principal Cinch is rabid already and pressures Twilight into using the magic from her device, which is practically bursting from the siren's bloated magic.
She assumes her Midnight Sparkle form and begins opening portals to Equestria, to get at the magic within.
And with no one to stop her, save perhaps the last siren, she likely succeeds.
But destroying the barrier between the worlds doesn't just give her access to it, it destroys it. Imagine the kind of damage caused by the barrier between two alternate realities suddenly disappearing. It would be devastating. Nothing left of either world.
Maybe THAT'S the future we saw...
Remember that Friendship Games place during / right BEFORE the Starlight Glimmer time travel adventure. Because immediately after the movie ends, Equestria Twilight arrives and apologizes for her absence as she had been stuck in a crazy time loop. The movie was originally supposed to air immediately after that episode, but I think they wound up releasing it like a week before? I can't remember exactly when.
(Mind you, I have my own headcanon about that wasteland future. I like to think of it as the Fallout Equestria future, but this isn't an entirely unlikely scenerio either.)
In order for this time line to have happend, starlight would have to go back in time but not all the way to the rainboom, instead, she would have to do the following
0 likesA: prevent the eqg main six from going to chanterlot high
B: sabatoge the guards for that night shift when the crown was stolen
C:prevent twilight from having anyway to be proven innocent
The reason behind her even doing this could be apart of a plan
A:have the crown stolen from twilight
B: have it taken to the human world
C:steal it from sunset and use it to transform her self
D:use that to rule or destroy equsteria
Now has for sunset achivng her goal another way without the human world, the awnser is a little more complicated, see, she would have to steal all the elements of harmony, that would be difficult, so she would have to wait for the events of an adventure that would see twilight and the others leaving ponyville, then she steal the elements and use them to turn her self into day dream shimmer. Why not just use sci twi's magic battery thing? Well not only would that take a while but that would also involve going to the human world, even if she did, it would have been a bit harder considering by the time sci twi would have come back, the portals connection would be broken by then, which has seen in friendship game wouldn't be a problem. But remember the Dazzlings? That would also require twilight coming back to prevent an enslave ment forcing sunsets plan to cease. And with sunset being the only one who knows how magic works... Well that wouldn't work very well now would it? Even then, starlight would still have to have tried to destroy equsteria, so it's very likely that in one of the time lines they're would be a war
In conclusion, we didn't see a sunset time line because starlight only knew of the human world because twilight told her about it, has her teacher.
Someone once suggested that barren timeline could've been Starlight's. She was so fixated on everyone being the same that she wouldn't value all the differences that keep Equestria running properly. Even unicorns, pegasi, and Earth ponies are different, and those differences are needed for weather, farming, moving celestial bodies, etc. The empty realm of dust is what could happen if she really flew off the handle and took over all of Equestria.
0 likesYou make a good point, but in the alternate universes, there are still many other magical items that could enhance Sunset's magical power. I mean, there's magic that turned Cozy Glow into an Alicorn. This is a long stretch, but hear me out. In the alternate Universe starring Sunset, she would need a new reason to become evil, as she wouldn't have envy for twilight, because twilight never succeeded. Say, in the future, Sunset is Celestia's student. Her best student. Her magic power is powerful, and she's mastered almost every known magic. She decides she wants to learn more powerful magic. Such as how powerful Alicorn magic is. She confronts Celestia, asking if there was any way to turn a normal pony into an Alicorn. Celestia avoids the question, but Sunset's nagging won't stop. Celestia gets angry and sends Sunset to study. Afterwards, Celestia talks to her sister, worried that Sunset is growing greedy. While they are talking, Sunset is listening. Sunset grows angry, thinking her mentor doesn't trust her, even though she's studied hard. And right before she confronts them, they go somewhere Sunset never knew existed. A vault filled with magical items and forbidden spells. Sunset,even angrier her mentor would hide such power, plots to suck the magic out of the items and memorize the spells. She would become stronger than Celestia could imagine, and with her new magic try and overthrow Celestia. She would Succeed. She would take the spell that put Nightmare Moon in the moon for 1000 years, and enhance it to last for generations. She would banish Luna to the Moon, and Celestia to the sun. She'd enslave the ponies of equestria, but after years she's struggling. The magic she took was getting too hard to control. She tried to cast a spell to help, but ended up releasing all the dark magic, wiping the lands to baren...
1 likeEDIT: The secret room hiding magical items isn't made up. The hidden room in the Library held many items for the Ruler Sisters eyes only. Luna and Celestia have shown Twilight before, so that's how we can confirm it's existence.
I think this wasteland future was due to Tirek's doing, just a little later than the one shown before. I mean he took magic from all the ponies, pegasuses have lost the control over the weather which caused the drastic climate change, and from earth ponies, who was taking care of the plants and land in general.
1 likeHere’s an idea: Sunset Shimmer stayed as Celestias star pupil, and made friends with an alternative mane 6 (or even the same but without twilight) and the prophecy came true. But some of Lunas hate, envy, etc passed on to Sunset. Over the years it consumed her until she used the element of magic for her own gain, and ran away to grow a large army of humans to take through the portal. Sunset Shimmer comes back 100 moons later, she comes back and takes over equestria, destroying everything into a barren wasteland until nothing is left. Not even herself.. or she conquered other lands and repeated the cycle!
0 likesWhich would cause the current state of the 7th timeline!
I wonder if the whole "zombie-student" thing was to be partially some sort of "Human/pony-shield/ wall-of-flesh" tactic. They where innocent after all, and Celestia might not be so quick to get a "lethal force" military attack on them. Then there is if they could break the mind-control/brainwashing, what would happen to the students then? The portal was only open at set times at first. Would they become a strain on resources if Sunset somehow kept sending more and more mind-control slaves to attack Equestria, basically trying to zerg the nation?
0 likesJust a thought.
My question is was Twilight even still loyal to the princess, think about it, we never saw a alternate Twilight either. What if all those time lines she influenced, what if she was so ashamed of not being able to go to the school, that she basically became a villain her self. That barren wasteland could have just been ponyvill, and somewhere else she is ruling with an iron fist. But that you also left out one thing, we never saw a timeline of the Storm King either.
0 likesHow about we expand upon this.
0 likesThe Dazzlings/Sirens were sent to the human world long ago by Starswirl and the Pillars.
Now granted, they were pushed into action by witnessing the power of Equestrian Magic at the end of the first movie, however they still had their powers and abilities.
Now what if the Dazzlings were able to get a foothold in the human world? Sunset Shimmer already had a rift that split apart Rarity, AJ, Rainbow, Flutters and Pinkie, and while Sunset Shimmer was fairly manipulative, she didn't have that much in terms of real power.
The portal to Equestria was only active during certain times of the year, and wasn't fully opened until Twilight found a way to do so using the book.
And the sirens would be able to grow their power in that world. It was Twilight, Sunset and the rest that put a stop to them and removed their power, but without Twilight and the traces of Equestrian Magic, the Sirens would be able to rampage across the world if they desired, and there wouldn't be anyone to stop them.
Now what if, they do learn of the portal at Canterlot High. They would be able to bide their time until the portal opened once again, growing their power and they would be the ones creating an army.
Sunset MIGHT be able to warn Celestia of the attack, however I don't believe that she would, not unless she somehow had a change of heart somehow.
My theory: The Wasteland is the result of the mane six failing to defeat all of the villains. The villains soon found no reason to stay there since it was, well, empty. That's why nobody was there when Starlight and Twilight went there.
0 likesI honestly think the final timeline showed the Equestrian wasteland from Fallout: Equestria. There’s nothing to disprove this, even if Fallout: Equestria is a fanfiction, and not actually canon.
0 likesSo I have a theory
1 likeIn season 5 Starlight unleashed a multiverse BEFORE she met sunset. Starlight would have known the other villans through tales or news papers which means she had no idea the sunset even existed. The mane six and the princesses must have kept the mission to the human world a secret. Because if they reveled there was a human world why would the other villans stick to equestria if they knew there was another world with magic. That is why I think starlight did not make a timeline of sunset because she never knew of the human world or its magic until she met sunset after she was reformed
Although the equestrian mane 6 never met, the EG main 6 (besides glasses twilight) did. Sunset could have easily manipulated them to force the sixth element to appear. Sunset was smart and knew equestrian magic. I feel like she'd be able to figure it out by taking the book from Princess Celestia's library. She would find she needed 5 friends, one of each element. She would go back to the school and observe students who best fit that prophecy. As we know, the 5 EG girls were friends before sunset ruined it in the main timeline. Maybe instead she'd use her manipulation tactics to trick the five to go to Equestria and receive the powerful amulet. However, as a comment before me brought up a point that she had no motive since Twilight was not a princess, so maybe she wouldn't even bother taking over the school or Equestria in general.
0 likesIf somehow Twilight haven't found the Elements (nor the Mane 5) Celestia would make it through but some villains would still be alive. Nightmare Moon could easily be beaten by Celestia and Sombra maybe, but what about Tirak and Discord? I don't think Celestia would make it because:
1 like1. She would be the only alicorn (maybe Cadence too) because Luna would be, again, banned in the moon and Twilight wouldn't have discovered Friendship.
2. She can't use all of the Elements' power.
So some villains would escape and they would probably work with Sunset to completely destroy Equestria and rule their own. Now about who would win between the villains I don't know but it would be interesting and probably long lasting, creating a timeline where most of the lands are destroyed (aka the timeline where we don't have a clue about how it came that way) and the only beings that would "matter" would be the villains and their kingdoms.
Replies (1)
I don't think Celestia can beat NMM due to how she is all amped up.
0 likesAnd was able to send Celestia to the moon without the Elements despite Celestia needed them to do the same to NMM. NMM might beat Sombra too due to his anti-magic crystals most likely won't work on dark magic.
Since Nightmare Moon managed to ruled for a few years, she must have been able to deal with Sombra, Tirek, Discord and Chrysalis.
I don't think Sunset would have discovered the elements at all.
0 likesIf the Mane 6 hadn't found together, the elements weren't revealed and Nightmare Moon wasn't defeated.
That brings me to the point: The alternative timelines of Nightmare Moon and Sunset Shimmer are one.
Parallel storys without connection.
Pony Twilight Sparkle would never have met Sunset Shimmer, so it can't be mentioned.
At some point, all the villains escaped and caused chaos and destruction to the point where everyONE and what was left of the alicorn species had to evacuate the planet, leaving a deathworld.
0 likesThen everyone else died
I think that’s a great theory and if that did happen and the elements were never found and sunset didn’t rule there’s still a question what was that wasteland timeline lots of things could have happened I was thinking cozy glow but would she really be evil if she didnkt know that friendship was power?
1 likeSci-Twi wanted to understand magic and created little rifts of Equestria, and that didn't seem to dependent on the elements of harmony being discovered.
0 likesMaybe Sunset wasn't mentioned in the different timelines because of either 2 things:
0 likes1: Maybe there was the possibility of Sunsets Demon form in Equestria, we just didn't see it yet.
2: Maybe its because shes in the human World. Maybe Twilight hasn't even met Sunset in order to have her be bazoodled into that demon, who was quote on quote stealing Twilights crown, because she hasn't even met.
lol when you said why didn’t we see sunset’s reality i thought about it and came to the conclusion that it was because she couldn’t get the element of twilight never became it and when you came to that similar conclusion i was shocked 😮
0 likes'Aight boys, Sawtooth asked for a theory about how the "Grey World" appeared, so here we go.
0 likesThe video listed six villains, corresponding to the other six timelines:
- King Sombra
- Queen Chrysalis
- Nightmare Moon
- Tirek
- Discord
- The Flim-Flam Brothers
Now this is where the theory (or actually, theories, with an "s") really goes "haywire" (pun not intended... okay a little bit intended), so let's buckle up.
To start off, let's analyze all of the futures with crude summaries. In each future, there only appears a single villain, and the members of the Mane Six seem to be occupied with combating said villains. We never see multiple villains in one timeline. Let's assume that Equestria either falls to the single villain or somehow manages to defeat them and survive.
Who's to say that the timelines aren't the same timeline? Aside from the Tirek or the Flim-Flam Brother timelines where the land is being destroyed by said villains, multiple villains coming in one after the other was defeated could eventually wear away at Equestria and leave it destroyed, with nothing left to invade. It's also possible that multiple villains attacked Equestria at once in the "Grey Timeline", causing Equestria's destruction that way.
But let's not stop there.
What if in one of the timelines, Tirek is defeated by a group who learned the Magic of Friendship? Remember, we saw no past to the Grey Timeline, so anything could've happened. What if Tirek was defeated by an alternate Mane Six (or Five... or whatever number you prefer. Mane 72, anyone?), and the citizens of Equestria saw?
What if a certain pink-coated, blue-haired, freckled pegasus saw the Power of Friendship?
Yes, I'm suggesting that the Grey Timeline is the result of none other than Cozy Glow. Stay with me here a sec and lemme explain.
In the canonical timeline, Cozy Glow saw and learned of the Power of Friendship. She desired to become the most powerful pony in all of Equestria through means of Friendship. She then contacted Tirek and learned how to drain all of the magic from Equestria. But why?
The answer is that Cozy Glow didn't just needed a plan; she needed a plan that would 100% WORK. Friendship is Magic. We know this. But Magic comes in many other forms as well. That's why she needed to delete the rest of Equestria's Magic: So that she could be the sole possessor of magic (in the form of Friendship), and by default, the most powerful pony in Equestria.
What if in the Grey Timeline, Cozy Glow managed to succeed in draining all of the magic in Equestria? Without magic, the Earth Ponies could not tend the land. Without strong, rich land for plants to grow, there's no food in Equestria. Without food from the Earth Ponies to support the Unicorn and Pegasi, well... You can see where this is going.
Cozy's plan would've horribly backfired. There would be no earth, no grass, no flora. There would be no fauna. There would be no way to control the dusty, stormy weather. There would be no magic.
There would be nothing.
And that is what the Grey Timeline was.
Nothing.
@1:40 That timeline is from Grogar not Sunset Shimmer. Back in season 9 when Tirek said "Grogar is ancient and extremely powerful", then when he returned Celestia and Luna goes fight with him and eventually ended up with that place.
0 likesThat is my theory on that timeline.
you know who would be good at helping the others reform Tirek? his brother Scorpan because in season 4 we learned that Scorpan both became Reformed and friends with the ponies
1 likeI like to think the completely barren future is caused by Daybreaker! It seems like everything was burned down to a crisp!
1 likeI think sunset may have discovered friendship but then used the elements of harmony after obtaining theam in a bad way. Which may have caused the waste land timeline. Idk if that makes sence.
1 likeomg when you said why didn’t we see sunset’s reality i literally immediately came to this conclusion if she couldn’t get the element of twilight didn’t become it. I was shocked when u said basically what i thought 👀😶
0 likesYou came to the same conclusion I did. But here another question that would make a good video. What happened to Sunset after graduation. I sure you heard about the cut scene for The Last Problem.
0 likesHere is my theory : Ι think that the last timeline i mean the final future of equestria (where was nothing ) was a result of the othere timelines that Starlight Glimmer created and Sunset didn't have to do with this at all because 1) She lives in another world and 2) If Twilight hadn't descover the magic of friendship and her element Sunset wouldn't be able to succed .
0 likesHaven't watched the video yet past "why haven't we seen a Sunset Shimmer timeline?" but I am attempting to answer this question without watching the video. It is because: Her. Plan. Sucked. It is because she attempted to take over Equestria with her teenage zombies, but not only will they be against Celestia one of the most powerful characters (and possibly even Luna), but they wouldn't even be able to walk very well transitioning from human to pony, much less able to fight back. Okay obviously this is the joke answer, but I wanted to comment it anyways.
0 likesMy question is: why don't we see Twilight or Spike in the alternatives time lines?
0 likesWe see the adventure of Twilight against Starlight, but we don't get to see the Twilight and Spike resultive from the other time lines.
I hope you understood what I wanted to say... Sorry for this crashed English.
Alright, lets say that perhaps sunset found OTHER elements, not the elements of harmony, but something darker, stronger, this could be a result of that, she found something better, faster, stronger, ETC. what would it be? I have no idea, just a potential answer. Either that or that final timeline was a result of ALL SIX other timelines coming to pass, Nightmare moon wins, the twins build an empire, chrysalis and her changelings attack, King Sombra returns, then Discord breaks free, followed by Tyrek escaping, or however you want to order that, and the seventh timeline is the result of all that destruction, after all, in the other timelines someone had to've stopped the villain's, so the Mane 6 would've been replaced by someone else, so this seventh timeline is just if no-one replaced them, that's my personal head-cannon anyway.
0 likesI think the final timeline was when Starlight won. Think about it. If she won then even the princesses would've lost there Mark's and without the ability to move the sun and moon maybe they just, disappeared, when the vanished it maybe dispersed into millions of rocks which fell down and hit the world causing major shockwaves that shook the world and took thousands of live. Ti make matters even worse when the sun vanished it didn't just fizzle out. When a sun dies many things can happen. But for a sun charged with so much magic from thousands of years only one thing would happen. A supernova the likes of which no one had seen. Resulting in the total annihilation of everyone in the world. All because Starlight took Celestia and Luna's marks. I know it's a adakr theory, but it's still possible.
0 likesI believe it was Starlight glimmer. All previous villains that had the power to do destruction, was shown with the exception of Starlight glimmer, Sunset Shimmer, and the corrupted tree of Harmony. The corrupted tree of Harmony grows tentacles, so if it were the tree of Harmony we would have saw tentacles. I'm rolling out Sunset Shimmer actually for what's outside the show. If this was your only episode you watched, if it was Sunset Shimmer, it would make no sense. There's enough exposition from Twilight to get the gist of the other villains. Notice how she says something along the lines up we stopped them for any timeline we spend a significant amount of time in. The Only Exception being the Nightmare Moon timeline, and even then Twilight acts confused, it's new to her the same way it's new to the audience. The reason why Twilight Recaps is to catch anybody up to speed. Why wasn't it there a recap in the barren Wasteland, if it's important for the rest of the timelines? Why would you break that trend? Well there's no need for recap. Why? because we watched this character for the entire episode. So Sunset Shimmer wouldn't make enough sense outside the show, so I believe it's Starlight glimmer. It makes sense to anybody who hasn't watched the show. Plus, I don't know if Equestria Girls is Canon. We know the flash century is Canon, but not Equestria Girls. The same way that the Mane 6 have counterparts in Equestria Girls, is the same way that Flash Century exist in the Pony world. It doesn't matter too much if one doesn't exist. In this case, it means that flash century counterpart wouldn't exist.
0 likesWait but what if Sunset never abandoned her studies and learned more about friendship and became the princess instead? Would Sunset replace twilight? Would she have gotten a different cutie mark? This is interesting! Would she have the same friends as twilight? Would the elements be different?
1 likeActually I have a theory! What if during the battle in the human world, Sunset was able to defeat the main six and was able to go through the portal and destroy the Crystal Empire army and the rest of Equestria, and since everyone didn’t respect her, she destroyed the world in the resulting that timeline which nothing was there or simply took of the ponies to the human world and made them her slaves.
0 likesI don’t think Sunset Shimmer plan was to take over equestria with a bunch of zombie high school students I remember watching equestria girls and getting confused why Sunset would resort to that plan, because it didn’t make sense for someone who was very intelligent, very resources and very independent, To resort to that plan.
0 likesSo here’s what I think what happened, Sunset up till she took the crown was actually winning. Sunset knew what would have happened when you take an element to an alternative world. We don’t get to hear the answer but we know that Sunset knows the answer. Since Sunset isn’t the element of magic, I don’t think she ever thought that it wouldn’t have worked. I assume she thought it would enhance her magic abilities, since at the time Sunset had a huge ego. But the crown corrupted her, if you notice her transforming into the demon, she had tears flowing down her cheeks. The corrupted results of the magic, definitely clouded her judgment and thus she made up a crazy plan that involved teenage zombies.
Excellent theory,
0 likesThough... maybe sunset didn’t start that timeline, I know this is going to far but... maybe it was twilight, because when starlight stopped the rainboom twilight didn’t pass her test, so maybe she was mad or something, maybe celestia did something to twilight and twilight as we know, is very good at magic, tries to take over? I don’t know I’m terrible at theory’s, anyvay good job with the video👍🏻
Ok,hear me out,celestia knew the other world was existing,what if she already got there and meet the principal celestia like twilight and sci-twi and both of them keep in touch with each other(in some way similar to the books)and that's why in the 1st movie principal celestia wasn't so curious about twilight as luna was,she knew she was meant to be there,and here comes my point,on the other timelines the answer would be really simple,celestia warns the emergency to her other self,who comes to the other world with 5 of her students,(the human mane 5) to get the elements while princess celestia gets sci-twi so they could save equestria
0 likes“They wouldn’t stand a chance.”
1 likeWell, they would/could stand a chance since Sunset Shimmer would come along with the “zombies” which, there, would probably be as powerful, if not more, as the princesses. They and she could easily beat the guards.
Replies (4)
@Hannah Ringer
0 likesI’m saying that if the zombies don’t have magic, Sunset DOES, so she could defeat em and gain her zombies back
@Hannah Ringer
0 likesYe :)
@Hannah Ringer XDD Thanks!
0 likes@Hannah Ringer XD
0 likesSo if Twilight never got her cutie mark from the rain boom, wouldn’t that mean that she wouldn’t be Celestia’s student? So if she never became Celestia’s student, Sunset wouldn’t have even ran away to the other realm.
0 likesCelestia.
0 likesWatching her lend being atacked over and over again, without sister, without friends, who died in the endless battle..
Daybreaker was her last hope, but this form took away her mind and she lost controll, just like Luna 1000 years ago.
With no good alicorn rooler, there is no Equestria.
I don't know why but I always believed that the last timeline with the wasteland was created by daybreaker.
0 likesThat barren world could've been a day breaker world? It was burnt and dry with a red sky. A fire-powered sun goddess might have been responsible? Just spitballing. I don't know what would've led celestia to that outcome.
0 likesI think Sunset would be part of an alternate timeline, just not in Equestria. When Starlight stopped Rainbow's sonic rainboom, it caused the Mane 6 to lose their cutie mark connection. Thus, the Mane 6 never came together to bear the Elements. The Elements of Harmony would just be lost in the old castle, and Equestria would crumble. Sunset would probably stay in the human world dividing the Mane 6 - just like Starlight did with the sonic rainboom. The only question is that how would all of this effect the human world?🤔
0 likesIt couldn't have happened because Twilight wouldn't have the element of harmony in the first place. So how would Sunset actually get it. I mean, she could've thought that it was just an old mares tale an never would've gone looking for the elements. I mean, what is to say that she would even return to equestria after Nightmare Moon, King Sombra, Discord, and many other villians.
0 likesi just want to say, that the timline looks a lot like the future of the tales of chirmass past ( or the pony rip off)
0 likesWell my answer to this is... Would sunset still have been banished in all those timelines? I know that happened before Celestia took on twilight. But what if the collapse of magic maybe took her back? For that matter why did it take so long for sunset to get the crown of she could always come back to equestria why didn't she and how did she know when the proper time was unless she did go back to equestria
0 likesExcept if the main six never disco6the magic of friendship, then they never defeated Sombra, then the mirror wouldn't even be in the crystal empire! It used to be in Celestia's castle but then it was moved to the crystal empire for safekeeping after Sombra was defeated. Not important for the theory but still a little detail I noticed!
0 likesReally don't know why they didn't mix MLP with Equestria Girls more
0 likesGreat video. I can’t wait to see more. And Zi know I said this before and you may have seen this comment in some of your videos but, I like to see a Fluttershy x Discord: Fluttercord video. I mean in the end of the series we kinda saw them living together and I would love to see a video about that. You did one of Starlight and Sunburst so, why not Fluttershy and Discord? That would be an amazing video. So please think about it this is pure gold we’re talking about here.🤎💛💘🦄
2 likesReplies (1)
Sorry typo I meant to say I know I said this before.👍
1 likemaybe she didn't need twighlight to get the magic element- Celestia used the magic element when defeating nightmare moon, so what if she took control of the princess, like some other villains, and make Celestia get her the magic element? if other villains defeated the princess then why cant she?
1 likeSunset could have become a princess, there might be a timeline that everything turned out fine only starlight didn’t find it and twilight never became friends with everyone else
0 likesHonestly it looks like if EVERY villian came together
1 likeReplies (1)
Yeah I agree
0 likesIf only Hasbro would make a new series that is a sequel to My Little Pony
0 likesOkay. Now I'm confused. So we have default Sawtooth (his normal pony form), Changeling Sawtooth (His normal changeling form), Corrupted bat pony Sawtooth (In the Sombra videos), we have Snowflake Sawtooth (The last video), and we have feather Sawtooth (This video)
0 likesWhat am I missing here? Why are there so many of you? Did you go to the lake that multiplies ponies? (Forgot what it's called, but it multiplied Pinky)
Sunset would have to find the Alicorn Amulet or team up with another villian. Probably Nightmare Moon as soon as she retuned. Sunset just hasn't shown to be as powerful or able with magic as Twilight.
0 likesYour right about the second one there is no way she could have won because it was connected to twilight
1 likeWhen the video started I wanted to say the same thing you said in the end, no mane six together, no elements, no crown in the wrong world and no evil sunset's army..
0 likesThis is random but how do you make your character (aka your earth pony) have the animations in a sense
0 likesLike how he raises his hoof his expressions. Do you draw ir all or do you have a base?
Why has nobody talked about Sunset Shimmer’s magic aura? It was originally that turquoise colour when she stole Twilight’s crown but when she returned afterwards, it was red. I know it was probably a design change thing, but what if there’s another meaning to it or something?
1 likeSunset Shimmer is my character in Equestria Girls. I’m glad that Twilight and her friends were able to reform her because she’s an awesome girl.
0 likesNo!!! Aquarium from the Carnival of the Animals returned!
2 likes(I really liked the video though, maybe do a video on what you think happened in the final timeline)
Think about Chrysalis and her mane six copies the shriveled away when the tryed to get the elements and if Sunset did come into equetreia with the element of Magic see would of gone through something worse.And so the tree of harmony destroyed Demon Sunset and the world by using so much power and magic.
1 likeThe final time change that we saw could be that every villain wanted to fight together or wanted to fight each other and it cause this disaster I’m not saying I’m right but it could be it 🧐
1 likeReplies (2)
@Dreena Tovar discord could bring everyone cause he has tha power and btw ty for the info
1 like@Dreena Tovar ur right and this could cause the final time
0 likesWhat if that last timeline was the Tantabus? If It had escaped into the real world, I may have been that hopeless. Luna Said It would make Equestria into "A living Nightmare" Didn't she? The only problom being Luna would have to be reformed, Which very well could have happened. The mane 6 Defeated Nightmare moonbut Celestia Reformed Luna. She still could have felt bad afterward and created the tantabus. I hope you find some intrest in this theory!
0 likesI gave a possibility of what would have happened to Sunset during the Wasteland Timeline in It's A Screwed Up Life. It... wasn't pretty
0 likesI wonder, what would have happened if celesta and Luna were never born?
1 likeWho said the element of magic was the most powerful. What has magic to do anything with friendship, I mean the other elements describe what you should have in friendship, but the element of magic? I mean come on. But still good theory.
0 likesIf you ask me, there could be an evil sunset Timeline, one where the rainboom still happened but in a different way, maybe a different main six, all that would have to happen is getting a princess who was a heavy sleeper... you can figure out the rest...
0 likesI think that last timeline was like one where celestia and luna never raised the sun and moon again. That's why there isn't a sun and moon. Maybe, this is a world where there is no villain, but there is no hero. Like, they just gave up hope. Tbh Twilight was a relief. A break. A light. And without her, celestia and luna just gave up. They had no family, no friends. No student. And more villains saw this as a chance to attack. They weren't successful, but they managed to make the two sisters hopeless and dull. and the world around them followed. Sunset would just, conquer the human world. then she would check on equestria and.......... its gone. so she goes back to human world and laughs. how pathetic. and she still won in the end
0 likesThe only explanation I can think of is that because the rainboom didn’t happen Twilight and her friends would have never happened and Twilight wouldn’t have becomen a princess and didn’t get the crown.
0 likesI wrote this as I listened to the video and just saw that you brought it up haha 😂
(final timeline) War.......war never changes.
0 likesi think the baren wasteland was the results of tirek, cozy and chrysalis victory of taking over, i know that the fight between them was much later but idk just my thought
0 likesThe last timeline looks like if Sweet Apple Acres wasnt running.
0 likesWhat if she was supposed to be a bearer of the element of magic but she never made any friends to help stop all of the villains?!
0 likesThe last timeline was a result of all the books plans being unleashed and they fought eachother
0 likesWell, I was going to warn you that Sunset couldn't have sucseded because without the Rainboom, Twilight wouldn't have become friends with the rest o the mane six and wouldn't have become a princess.
1 likeBut you were faster than me. Np
I'm going to say that the last timeline was trixie's
0 likesshe probably still would've been just your average high school bully
0 likesSunset’s demon alicorn design is LIT
0 likesSunset Shimmer could have used dark magic tyrol Equestria just like King Sombra did and probably she would succeed with the help of Starlight glimmer I know it sounds pretty darn impossible but I know it will happen ;3
0 likesI thought of something, why didn’t we see a MIDNIGHT SPARKLE timeline??
0 likesMidnight sparkle was caused by a talisman that human twilight made. But it contained the magic of 5 of the elements, there’s a copy of the main 6 in the human world, that would mean double the mAgIc oF fRiEnDsHiP. (This is complicated XD) but the thing is midnight sparkle has a lot of power, she was destroying and ripping holes in dimensions with the intent of going to equestria but she never did since reformed sunset used the SAME magic to turn into something beautiful- but that’s a whole other topic! Anyway, if she did get to equestria (it be an awkward scene seeing an evil twilight with the pony twilight still good..?) she has enough power to make it past the equestrian army. But she seeked knowledge instead of destroying equestria so it couldn’t have been that last timeline. It. wouldn’t. have. been. Possible because starlight stopping the rainboom the main 6 would have never meet and the elements wouldn’t have existed. But then there was the elements the talisman held and it came from another world,
this is getting complicated and I’m tired of typing 😅 but think about it-
Without the rainboom Twilight also wouldn't be Celestia's pupil and it would've still been sunset maybe sunset could've been the element of magic without twilight and that was the result of her going rouge (my opinion of course)
0 likes2:26 Starlight caused it.
1 likeThe waste land, I think was the ending where all the bad people combined there magic was too much for the fabric of the universe so everyone and everything died
0 likescan u make a theory on how the waste land came to be?
0 likesI wonder what would lead up to the last timeline and how it would e created
0 likesalso if twilight didn't get into the school of magic sunset might have been the sixth element of harmony
0 likesWhy is it that I just realized (After YEARS of watching the show!) That "When the five are present, a spark will cause the 6th to appear" Twilight SPARKLE xD
0 likesI think Cozy Glow is the mystery land. She is a villian after all.
0 likesWelllll, just came from listening to a JYC row music video and I might say, the sisters turned evil and it had catastrophic events.
0 likesOne reason Sunset may not have showed up is, if Twilight and her friends never met, the crown sunset used wouldn’t exist. Remember the element became the crown.
0 likesKnow for the mane question who is starlight glimmer’s mother? Would any of the villains actually be her mother. Because we met her dad but we never figured out who her mom was
0 likesWait I just thought there wasn’t a Sunset universe because if stuff happened the School of Magic wouldn’t exist and Sunset would never be under Celestia’s wing?
0 likesHey I have a theory!!! So in the friendship games, that principle , who is she? Well I think she might be chrysalis. And here’s why. You know how in one of his other videos he said that chrysalis might have been the old queen of the crystal empire. And in the the movie, it was based off before princess Cadence was well “principal “ so this might fit perfectly. And since Cyrisals can change her apperance, and maybe some equestrian magic leaked through, letting her take that magic and use it. Now here’s when it gets interesting, so when human twilight was pushed into yawing the magic from the pendant, that was chrysalis’s plan to use it like she has been trying for a long time. Ever since the main six defeated her, she’s been wanting their magic. If you think so too, like this and plz if sawtooth if you read this can you mention me? Also, share plz thx for taking the time to read this
0 likes2:22 : Actually, yes
0 likesSo, i actually tought of 3 posibilities at first, but i ended up with only one posibility. I think this is the timeline of Tantabus, and this is someponys nightmare.
Replies (1)
Sorry for the spelling mistakes, English isn't my native language
0 likesI like to think cozy glow draining all magic caused the wasteland
0 likesThe last UA could be someone who want to completly destroy eguestria. We could see that there is a storm cuz we couldnt see canterlots hill. So that means that the storm king took everything from earth of equestria and make world up in sky upon clouds where storm isnt that dangerous. So My theory is that the storm king took all magic from equestria for himself and made his own world up in sky.
0 likesAnd other villians died cuz
Changelings: no pony/creature = no love = death
Sombra: No Crystal Empire = no life goal
Discord: no innocent ponies = no fun = no reason to leave his world
Nightmare moon: no power = no change
Tirek: no magic = no food = death
Cozy Glow: no school of friendship/no magic of friendship = no goal
Shadow pony: no return of the pilars = no return of him
Flim and Flam: no apples = no buisness
Mythical creaturs: no magic and food = death
Etc.
Sawtooth I have a challenge for you watch all 3 part of the heart of a draconequus and don't cry even one times . Can some do this challenge ?
1 likeImagine In the Friendship Games When sunset turned into Daylight Sunset she and midnight Twilight Fight through the Two Worlds like they go to The Pony World and the Human World Back and Fourth and It Ends on that Energy Blast That Would've been Cool but If That Happened It'll Kinda Lose The Whole Friendship Factor in the Movie but at least We Got Awesome Fight
0 likesNow that I think about it, what about the sirens?
1 likeWhat if like, Twilight and her friends did get the elements of harmony, but somewhere before the 1st equestria girls movie they stopped being friends, and Sunset went through the portal and found the element since it was already out of the stone mechanism thingy
0 likesOk but what truly happened in the last timeline
0 likesThat ending was so fast
1 likeHow do you talk so fast??
You got this one right!
0 likesThe element of magic is useless?! Did anyone try?
0 likesOmg thanks for doing another video it was rlly good. I was honestly getting a little worried you quit.
0 likesUhh idk i think that was starlights timeline where her ideology took over the world and the lack of joy made it like that
0 likesI think the last time line was Cozy glow. Equestria heavily relies on magic, and I think the world without magic would just die.
3 likesI have a Question for you Sawtooth Waves.If a Alicorn Amulet has magic of all tree tries whi the Amulet turn Trixie isto Alicorn???
0 likesWhat if gusty the great turned herself into the spiret of harmony after grogar’s defeat she became the spiret of harmony and with that she mite be the tree of harmoy
0 likesHave you ever thought Luna is the moon celestial is sun and twilight is the starts🤯😁
0 likesI think it was just a glitch for making too many timelines
0 likesI think the last timeline is the Grogar timeline. (no not Discord, the real Grogar)
0 likesBored I am
1 likeForgot that every other Friday is Sawtooth day
N O I C E
i love your channel sawtooth waves!!!
0 likesI know the backstory to the wasteland timeline,I think it goes like this(I don’t remember how it goes.):There was a war between Equestria and ???*.Equestria was so Desperate that they did *??? and it became a wasteland.The END.
0 likesa sunsetshimer timeline wouldnt be possible because the elemnt of magic wont be there to begin with
0 likesReplies (1)
wait... i commented half way video nvm
0 likesThis doesn't make sense. If the main 6 never met, there was no crown! Meaning - SUNSET CANNOT TURN INTO A DEMON IF THE MAIN 6 NEVER MET!
0 likesI missed your vids sawtooth waves, you make cool vids and awesome vids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 likeGood idea. But why didn’t we see Midnight Sparkles outcome of victory either? Pls make a theory on that. What would have happened with all of the villains of equestria girls (legend of evergreen,...)?
0 likesWhy no starlight glimmer she needs to be in this
0 likesWhat I think cased that timeline was because of all the villains together what if all the villains nightmare moon, discord, etc... working together like what discord touched the other villains like someone teached them to work together and all thoughs villains working together work cases the hole world and everything everyone knows is destroyed in the end
0 likesYou should do more 'what if's'
0 likesEven farther into T-Rex winning abomination duh he obviously used his magic to destroy this land the only reason he's not around is because he probably used too much of his magic and is probably no longer with the ponies
0 likesme, looking at the thumbnail: wow, so oc. very mary sue.
1 likehe do be rockin the hair leaf tho
0 likesI think it’s because it was an equestrian girls movie and they didn’t want to bring that into the show. Also there wasn’t enough time in the episode
0 likesThe apocalypse was the battle of Appleloosa
0 likesSADLY I MISSED IT 4 HOURS AGO 😢
0 likesBut luckily, THIS VIDEO IS FANTASTIC!!!!🤩🤩🤩👍👍👍
P.S That's a cute-
Uh.....IDK WHAT THAT IS ON YOUR HEAD OR EAR SAWTOOTH!!!!!😢
BUT IT'S ADORABLE!!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
haha, sunset go brrr n' make all the villains pale in comparison
0 likesAwesome and cool!
0 likesIf twighlight sparkle wasn't defeated too please
0 likessunset did the spark so that wasteland is from her
0 likesthe reason is because twilight wouldn't have the crown
0 likesIt's like 4;02 am I was going to sleep but like this is more important-
0 likesit wasn't there because if they didn't meet then there would be no elaments to take
0 likes4:46 : Yayyy, now i can be a pegasi like me!
0 likesSomewhere i hered that waste land would be by deamon human Twi, it could happen. Waste land look like it was dreaned of all magic.
0 likesIT WAS AN ALL VILLAIN BATTLE!
0 likesThe crown have never have existed in that alternative future and sunsetshimer never got back or know about the elements so in that future sunset haver never bring a element to the other world so a Olán never could it happend I don’t know if I explain my self jajaja
1 likeThe crown have never exist so the crown never got into the other world
1 likeThis is just a joke what is the final timeline is evil Twilight
0 likesCan you use your changeling form
0 likesWell nightmaremoon destroyd the elements of she was not stopped
0 likes2:24
2 likesevil celestia
Maybe
She was so postto wear the crown
0 likesMaybe sunset timeline never existed
1 likeFlim flam?
0 likesWas that a joke or did i miss that
Let's just say FOE For the win😁😁😎
0 likesI wonder what hasbro thinks XDD
0 likesNo sunset shimmer didn’t want to go back to equestria she wanted to concer The human world
0 likesCute hair clip❤️
0 likesMby she can do it with alicorn amulet😲
0 likesWhat about Twilight from the human one
0 likesI like the thing in your hair
2 likesReplies (1)
thanks ^^
0 likesOmg I see a conection it might be the fears of the main six ok
0 likes1.nightmare moon rarity
2.tirek twilight
3.King sombra pinkie pie
4.Discord Rainbow dash
5.flim and flam Applejack
6.Chrisalys fluttershy
7.?
Celestia soo the element of twilight is useless with out the main six right WRONG in the beginig Celestia used the elements without twilight or the main six but Celstia would do anything for her ponies or citizans that would be her fear being alone she must be a sevent element because she can use the elements without the main six but what do you think oh and Sawtooth Waves please tell me what do you think
Click just because of the thumbnail
1 likeI agree with you
0 likesOMG I did not know sunset shimmer would of done that my little pony like o my god hashtag omg.
0 likesYou have to do a Q&A?
0 likesWhat is it was the time line where sunset shimmer in starlight glimmer were friends and and their memory got white some h*** how in you can make you can do the rest of your series you can make up the rest you can see a fury see if anything makes sense see ya
0 likesOH NO SUNSET GLIMMER cough cough I mean OH NO STARLIGHT SHIMMER! Huuuuuuuuuu -_-
0 likesI mean everything in that world is ash so... sun... ash... hot...
0 likesFace reveal
0 likesThe timelame is a mistre
0 likesBut wouldn’t sunset be the next princess because she use to be better then twilight
0 likesI always loved alicorns peguesei unicorn and erth ponie but you make it like is frendship is fail
0 likesSawtooth waves: what do you think?
0 likesMe: have no idea how to argue with you: your theories always seem logically accurate 👍
Replies (1)
I know that you like sawtooth waves but I like mr beast better sis
0 likesMy name is Car as Nabil I want Alicorns wings and horn
0 likesWe love u💙
1 like😱😱😱😱😱
0 likesBefore 30k :D
0 likesHey southwaves why didn’t you post on last Friday
0 likes😭😭
1 like😮😮
1 likeI’m cold
0 likesThe title snd most video don’t get it
0 likesOk so sunset will take over both worlds dne
0 likesoOo
0 likesBecause she mad and not create a bad time she just played some of the time now she’s not create it all the time not because now that I created all of them created of you I want you to make a berry about it because this is the only thing that matters do you know this your name color maybe she didn’t even make the time great others that someone didn’t didn’t you can be on the forever and ever and ever
0 likes0:00
1 likeITS STARLIHGTS lol i cant spell i am a kid
0 likesLol WHAT 30£ MY GOD NO
0 likessunset
0 likesSawtooth, ever since Daybreaker was revealed, I always assumed that the last dark timeline was one in which Daybreaker came to power and started nuking the world with the power of the sun. Daybreaker struck me as having the potential to decide that subjects (or life itself) were a waste of time, unlike Nightmare Moon who is all about uncontrollable desire for adoration.
0 likesI think Demon Sunset could have turned out very similar in power and behavior.
I love how you still make theories and videos even after mlp ended, I've watched you since 2013 and I'm so happy I found your channel again.
0 likesI mean, there is a possibility that Starlight would've stopped the mane six after they had made the elements possible but that would leave an entire plot of how sunset got her hands on the elements.
1 likeMaybe if sunset won the battle and defeated the human main six. We've already seen that the the duplicates have no recolection of their counterparts (aside from pinkie but she's a weird one lol) so if they're living completely separate lives then maybe the elements wouldn't work for them and then sunset would've won? Then if she beat the entirety of the equestrian military, it would be possible for her to rule.
When twilight got back after the 30 moons, it would be too late and the damage would be done. They could defeat sunset again in equestrian guess but in the human world, her defeat left a massive explosion of a crater. As she said "Equestria has more power". Perhaps that way the explosive damage would be greater and cause Equestria to become a barren wasteland. Or maybe at least Ponyville.
When sunset tore rifts between the worlds and also made the massive crater, you could compare them and see the massive size difference betweenn their scales (equestria being smaller). Therefore the same explosion would cause a lot more damage and therefore the barren wasteland.
Or maybe it was just perspective, idk
I feel like the final timeline must have been all the villans fighting together. All the villans in starlight's alternate future did some form of damage, but all of them fighting each other with ponies getting caught in the crossfire seems more explanatory.
0 likesPersonally, I am and will always be a huge Sunset Shimmer fan, but you do bring up some really valid points. I also believe that Sunset wouldn’t have been able to obtain her power THAT WAY in another timeline without the mane 6. BUT she could have taken a different route, perhaps since Twilight never passed her entry exam and never became Celestia’s student, I would think that at some point Celestia would have wanted Sunset back. Maybe Sunset could have used her time in the human world to learn how to manipulate other’s discretely and in the shadows, instead of with direct confrontation and threats. If Sunset had been able to properly learn how to know what people wants and to be able to convince them, or persuade them, she may have been able to go back to Equestria and maybe even play Celestia. In this timeline, because of the absence of the mane 6, Celestia wouldn’t have had Luna either, so perhaps she would have been easier to manipulate. Maybe Sunset could have managed to get to the point of being an alicorn, and managed to decrease Celestia’s trust in other’s and herself to the point where Sunset could easily overpower her and be the only Alicorn in Equestria. (I don’t know where Cadence would fit in seeing as we don’t really have enough canon details of her origin)
0 likesYeah... Twilight's element appeared only when the "spark" worked, but... Didn't we see it also when Celestia banished Luna to the Moon? She took the element of magic, that was hidden into the stone, so, if Sunset somehow got to know about this or if this element was somehow left visible for everyone else, then it's still possible for Sunset to get her hands on the element of magic - and then she can do what we all know.
1 likeYou know, remember in the flash back where Celestia defeated Nightmare Moon? There she just whipped out the element of magic from one of the relics. What if there's a special spell that Sunset could've learned somehow, to gain the element of magic in Equestria without the rainboom happening... I've always wondered how Celestia got the element of magic in that battle.
0 likesI love this channel and the fact that we can make theories from the series. Keep it up!
0 likesI think the last timeline would've definitely been someone who could be powerful and a void of feelings. I mean, seriously, a baron wasteland? This has to be someone who was clearly shown to he useless, as this is a kid's show, so deeper meanings aren't usually the objective. I'm not sure about who this was though. Ideas?
1 likeI never thought about the Equestria Girls villain timelines. Then again, you may be right in that they never happened. All their plans hinge upon the crown getting into the human world.
1 likeThe barren land universe could have been caused by a villain we’ve never seen in the show
0 likesIf Twilight didn’t discovered the magic of friendship
Maybe a villain who had lurked in the shadows decided to take action and corrupted Equestria?
Maybe when the elements of harmony were back in use, another villain was stopped before they could do anything because they realized they never saw a chance to beat the elements and decided to see how powerful it really is
Without the events in use, it might have taken over Equestria and caused the alternative timeline
I don’t know
Something just came in my head
A possible plan that Sunset could have done was go after a different magical artifact or learn more powerful spells, possibly from the library where Twilight gets the time travel spell and try that.
0 likesSunset Shimmer may have made that future. but at the same time very unlikely.
1 likeThanks to the Equiestra Girls movie; Friendship games, we know that she was trapped in her own dimension, while Twilight is in temporary chaos.
What if it is for that reason that there was also no possible future? What intrigues me the most is the dimension that Twilight (of the Equeitria Girls dimension) opened. If at that time Twilight was with the Starlight Glimmer situation. What dimension did you open? And if it was the Prime dimension, why do the Mane 6 or the Princess know what happened at that moment?
It was weird that Twilight upon reaching the Equestria Girls dimension only mentioned Starlight's temporary chaos and not the fact that her dimension is almost invaded by her other self. If so, what exactly happened? Could it be that the dimension Midnight Sparkle was going to enter was a dimension made by Glimmer?
// This note was made with a translator. Since I speak Spanish.
The Flim and Flam timeline is also intriguing. For that to happen, the other villains would’ve had to be defeated, meaning that there is a timeline where the Mane 6 isn’t needed to save Equestria. This is further proven by the Discord Timeline, where Luna was reformed without the Mane 6. As for the last timeline, I think it’s caused by all the rising and powerful villains that destroyed everything and everyone (including themselves) by fighting each other for power, using their Powerful Magic to destroy each other and everything (like a Magic Nuke).
0 likesso I am rewatching MLP and just seeing this video, it actually makes A LOT sense! In the very second episode of season 1 (as he mentioned), there has to be a spark for a 6th element to appear in order to have ALL the elements of harmony. We didn't see Sunset's version in season 5 finale because of Starlight. The Sonic Rainboom didn't happened, The Mane 6 NEVER met nor the elements were there. And if we did get to see her timeline, it would actually be A LOT different like- really A LOT something like- that scene where Starlight and Twilight are in the middle of nowhere.
0 likesMy question for you Sawtooth. Would it have been possible for Sunset to have been the next ruler of equestria instead of twilight? Hear me out. We get twilight failing the entrance exam to celestia's school. Celestia wouldn't have found prodigy twilight to succeed her. Celestia would have continued with her school till the time when nightmare moon would have returned. Somewhere along that timeline Sunset was her student. So what could have changed. Maybe sunset wouldn't have acted out and maybe sought forgiveness instead of power. Maybe in her path to become a better pony it would lead her to ponyville to make new friendships.
0 likesSimple answer: starlight caused twilight and her friends to never meet and therefore never being able to venture on to the castle of the 2 sisters and eventually not bringing the 6 elements of harmony to materialise into gems. So without the element of magic and the others, sunset would have had nothing to steal and may have played a different role in the other time lines
0 likesIt's pretty obvious the sunset future didn't happen, because it couldn't. In a world without twilight and her friends, no one ever reclaimed the elements and without that happening sunset never had a chance to steal them, as they would remain in the castle of the two sisters and would never get anywhere close to the mirror for sunset to get her hands on it. I guess she might have tried to steal somethign else instead, but the only really powerful artefact close enough to the mirror for her to risk it would be the crystal heart, which, by its very nature, probably wouldn't work nearly half as well.
0 likessunset being able to pose any threat to equestria is completely depend on twilight finding the element and taking it to the crystal empire and with all of starlight's futures specifically designed to prevent that from happening, we obviously never will see a bad sunset future.
I like to think that the desolate future seen in Starlight's final alternate timeline is the result of Celestia turning into Daybreaker. Nightmare Moon could have returned and waged war against Celestia, something happens and Celestia turns into Daybreaker. The two of them fight and in the end, Nightmare gains the upper hand, striking a fatal blow to Daybreaker. Daybreaker's final action is to supercharge the sun and turn all of Equestria into a cindered wasteland.
0 likesI think the barren wasteland could have been caused by all the villains trying to take over and having an epic battle that resulted in the complete destruction of all that is good and they were all so injured from the fight that they retreated to heal and regroup. Maybe in that future, another battle was looming.
0 likesI was about to say when you first brought up Evil Shimmer. The Element of Magic wouldn't be within Sunset's grasp if the Mane6 didn't retrieve them.
0 likesBut what about the event that split Sunset and Celestial apart? Unless if it's canon (Which is from a comic book that takes place before the first Equestria Girls film), then that should still happen and Sunset still ends up in the human world.
0 likesHowever, that would not mean that she would gain her evil transformation because the Element of Magic was never unlocked due to Twilight and the Mane Six never meeting, which is what was needed to unlock the Element that granted Sunset her powers in the first place. (Which was stated in the video)
But then comes this question: In this alternate timeline, did Sunset stay in the human world? Or decided to one day return to Equestria after having a change of heart and develop a want to fix her mistakes?
I highly doubt that she went with the second option, but it is a possibility no matter how small of a likelihood of it happening.
But if she did, does that mean she could've become a princess instead of Twilight? Or something else?
The possibilities are endless!
So maybe the final timeline was what would've happened if Cozy Glow won. She's a filly who was trying to be in charge of Equestria and she also sent the Young 6 in the magic orb that would've sent them to another realm. The Young 6 are (mostly) children of royal families so to hear that the leader of Equestria basically murdered them would've caused an all out war among every nation (you saw how the season 8 premiere turned out). This war could've basically destroyed anything and everything because of how many parties were involved, and that's what could've caused the empty wasteland that Starlight and Twilight saw.
0 likesAs for the timeline my guess would be sleeping dragon covering whole sky with thick dark clouds that caused great damage to all life in very big area (propably not all Equestria)
0 likesI think why there wasn’t a Sunset Shimmer timeline is because the Elements of Harmony had to be retrieved first. Remember in the first episode? Twilight had to get the elements and since Starlight altered the Rainboom event, she probably didn’t get her cutie mark and get far on her studies to get the elements and since the Elements of Harmony wasn’t retrieved, Sunset wouldn’t have gotten Twilight’s element and used it to take over Equestria.
1 likeSo I think that’s why it didn’t show the Sunset Shimmer taking over Equestria timeline. Feel free to tell your thoughts!
I have a thought,if Sunset did go to the pony world to get the elements where they still in the castle she would have to travel a long way back to ponyvill,so she could of gotten her hand or hooves on some powerful magic that could make the six element appear and sense she would have ALL the elements she would have the combined power to take down Celestia and Luna's arms,so she definitely could have made that final time line.
0 likesI completly agree about the reason se didn't see a sunset timeline. As for the "Wasteland timeline" I think It could've been caused by a tremendous war. Not an "Equestria vs Villain" but " Villain vs Villain". Imagine a scenario where Tirek, Queen Chrysalis with her hive, King Sombra with his brainwashed army and Nightmare Moon with her knights all clashed in one massive war, wothout even considering the windigos, feasting on Equestria's warlords hate for each other. The war goes on, with more and more damages each and every day, until there's nothing left. It could've happened in a long time, as a resault of the many battles that scared the land or, even worse, someone created a spell that could end the war for good, and It worked far too well
0 likesWhat if the last time line that you were talking about the deserted time line was actually the Twilight timeline. Here me out if sun set shimmer was never turned to good than the Twilight from the human side of the portal would have successfully "learned" about the magic coming from Canterlot high ripping the two worlds in the process.
0 likesWhat happened? A war between Zebras and Ponies broke out. All of Starlight's attempts may have not entirely stopped the Rainboom, it could have happened at a later date, resulting in the Mane six still getting together, but things being slightly different. As we all know, even the slightest differences can cause a radical shift in timelines. Even an unsuccessful interruption of the Rainboom could result in serious consequences.
0 likesWhat if the last timeline is when all the villains duked it out, trying to each rule Equestria. Unlike the other timelines, there was no clear winner and as such things got so intense they destroyed Equestria and themselves?
0 likesWait, what about the elements of disharmony? I've seen videos about alternate universes where Sunset is basically Twilight. In the MLP comics, there was one about another mirror that Celestia had where the roles were all reversed. Bad guys were good and good guys were bad. Including the Main 6, or in this case, the Mean 6. We've seen a few episodes where these girls' become the opposite of themselves. Sunset Shimmer didn't know how to make friends, which is why she ran away in the first place. What if she found the other mirror and brought the Mean 6 to Equestria? Then, maybe these evil counterparts could have brought the Elements of Disharmony and when Sunset got what she needed, sent the girls back to their own world and combined the elements into one. Making a new crown for herself and turning into "a raging she-demon" and making her own army out of Equestria's people, I mean, ponies. Sunset's success could have ended in the barren wasteland after sucking the magic out of both lands and warping the two worlds into one or like Sawtooth said, if Starlight made more timelines, Sunset could have even be worshipped. There's a lot to think about this.....
0 likesA theory that does come to mind about the last time line is what if it’s DayBreakers?
0 likesWe never see a proper event with DayBreaker except for the dream episode where startlight and Luna helped celestia defeat her, but if twilight hadn’t stopped starlight, then starlight can’t help celestia and Luna.
Could it be possible that, that’s the destruction DayBreaker could have caused if celestia turned into her.
But again just a theory.
Here are some villains/enemies that could have caused the Isolated Timeline:
2 likes(I don’t know which villains came before and after this episode so please don’t say, we didn’t see this villain till season #)
Ahuizotl: In the episode Daring Don’t, Ahuizotl says he was going to use the rings to cause 800 years of unrelenting heat. So maybe he succeeded and caused the world to go into a drought, aka, the Isolated Timeline.
Sirens: They used their singing to cause the ponies to fight, therefore, things not getting done such as harvesting food and magic being used for bad intentions.
Trixie: Using the Alicorn Amulet, Trixie turned the world into something she visioned, but failed, causing Equestrian to go into a wasteland.
Garble: Caused Dragons to riot against ponies somehow, burning everything in sight.
Twilight?!: I mean, certainly, if human twilight can corrupt, pony twilight can certainly do the same right?
Daybreaker: Basically, Daybreaker uses her fire to burn everything in her path, from forests to huge towns/cities, leaving the world in a burnt up wasteland terrain.
In my opinion, I like the ahuizotl one most. If there are any villains I missed that came before this episode, let me know please.
Replies (2)
Don't forget Daybreaker (Corrupt Celestia)!
0 likes@IndoDINO Youtube DARN! I’ll add her at the moment I’m writing this
1 likeHow... How do you manage to point out something like this that's so obvious yet so hard to find..... You legend
0 likesI believe the wasteland timeline is Starlight Glimmers alternate reality when she succeeds in removing everyone's cutie mark removing everyone's energy and talent in the process. Earth ponies wouldn't be able to tend the earth/agriculture, pegasi unable to change the weather, Celestia and Luna won't be able to raise the sun and moon etc. Sugar Belle wasn't able to make simple cupcakes without her cutie mark.
0 likesI think that the one causing the wasteland timeline is cozy glow, I don’t have any guesses of the story leading up to this but with how smart she is it is possible
1 likeReplies (1)
very interesting, but there's a timing problem with that. Cosi glow didn't start her career and villainy until long after Starlight's timelines
1 likeThat gets me thinking, what if starlight just tripped rainbow the same way over and over... would the same alt timeline keep accuring like a time loop or would they be different?
0 likesMy take for the final timeline is one that all the villains fought against each other and caused the world to be destroyed. No winner on the throne...just a big wasteland...
0 likesYou are right! No one knew about The Elements of Harmony and where they were hidden? Twilight and her friends found out in The Castle Of The Two Sisters,and they had to represent them so they can be brought back to life or something. I dont think Sunset Shimmer would of get her way to rule Equestria or whatever,because she couldnt find the crown and be able to bring back the elements. No offense but please do more research.
1 likeWhat if...that timeline was DayBreaker's fault? Okay, we all know that she is about all fire and stuff. So she might be...burned all Equestria and made a castle at somewhere else? Like let's see, the dimension looks like burned and not alive. Daybreak would've caused that.
0 likesBut hey that's just a theory!
I think the wasteland was caused by all of the villains fighting for control until everything was gone.
0 likesThe empty one could have been cozy glow even though it hasn’t happened yet but anything could happen in the future since she took magic out of equestria because twilight and starlight don’t know about it yet that’s why twilight doesn’t mention it and the world and equestria rely on magic btw love your vids xx Hannah
0 likesAwesome! Although my belief is still that: that last time line is starlight’s. Over time with no special talents society would become dis functional and thuse ending here. It also looks a lot like starlight little village. But that’s just me, overall amazing video love seeing your stuff 😁😉
0 likesI wish someone makes theory on the last time line... Like I want to know who was responsible... Other creatures attack? Grogar? Pony of shadows? Daybreaker?
0 likesSo, what do you think did happen in that last timeline to turn Equestria into a barren wasteland?
0 likesShe would have different effects based on what timeline was already in play
0 likesdear sawtooth waves,
0 likesyou probably didn't want my opinion , but have it anyway.
I think there isn't a timeline in which Sunset succeeds because she can't. you said yourself that she would only be powerful enough if the element's magic transferred over. however, Sunset states in equestrian girls that when an element of harmony is taken to an alternate reality, its magic is reversed. therefore, if demon sunset went through the portal (or any of the rifts) then the magic in the crown would be reversed back to its original state. thus switching Sunset back too.
thank you for reading. I love your videos.
with love,
Nyx.
Top 10 things that keep me awake at night:
1 like10. "Something's under my bed, isn't there."
9. Weird, loud noises
8. Existential crisis's
7. "Did I do my homework?" (Even though I did)
6. Spiders.
5. "How would Equestria have been governed if it was by Luna and not Celestia before the two sisters ruled together and it was just one?"
4. My brain thinking i'm falling
3. The inevitable
2. The closet door
1. That unknown timeline
i think we 'did' see a timeline where she won in a way...the flim flam timeline...someone defeated all the villans to give flim and flam a chance at there hostile takeover bid, i think sunset returned earlier in this timeline, found nightmare moon had taken over and nopony had steped up to stop her...eager as ever to prove that her teacher was wrong to shun her she would have set out to unite the elements of harmony and fulfill the prophecy herself, along the way perhaps teaming up with alternate elements, moon dancer and the like, learning true freindship and by the end redeaming herself...but perhaps the delay had a cost...celestia was severly weakend by her time on the moon, nightmare moon ont he moon was one thing it was the source of her power but celestia, the oposite is true being on the moon would have saped her strength...and luna was too far behind to rule, plus her time as nightmare moon would have made her even more a pariah so, sunset who had been trained by celestia to rule before twilight, would take over with her friends as advisors till celestia was well...but sunset has one blind spot, she can be more then a little naive at times...and thus flim and flam were able to con her big time...resulting in the world we saw
0 likesHonestly I think Hasbro just stayed on with their separating EqG from the series, but that’s the least exciting theory I could come up with lol.
0 likesI personally believe the last timeline was the result Dragonshy If you think about it, after Nightmare Moon, it was the first time the six of them ever saved Equestria together. And Celestia did say the sleeping Dragon could have covered Equestria in ash.
0 likesI have a discovery about ponies having the same cutiemarks. In the episode ‘call of the cutie’ where Apple bloom is trying to persuade ponies to buy apples, there is a scene where there is a pony with an hourglass as a cutie mark, with golden ends on it, and minuette, one of twighlights friends, has the EXACT SAME CUTIE MARK!! In the episode ‘the gift of the maud pie’ there is a scene where, for a few seconds, another pony with an hourglass as a cutie mark appears!! This one has brown ends on it, though. In the episode ‘spice up your life’ when pinkie pie is handing out leaflets for the tasty treat, there is a pony with twoghlights cutie mark, but just recoloured!
0 likesAlso, your episode about zecora raised the question, does zecora speak in rhymes for a reason, like a sort of tradition? And I might have some information on this. In the episode ‘ 2, 4, 6, great’ when rainbowdash goes to zecora for help on coaching the chear squad, rainbowdash receives a rhyming dictionary from him. This might bring up a few more questions, such as, does zecora just rhyme for no reason or does he do it as a sort of family habit, that he got? I’m not good at answering questions like these but all the information I find I will post here.AAANNNDD, I have some information on the student 6’s elements.
In the episode ‘uprooted’ the tree of harmony created a shared dream that the student six were in. At the end of it, the messenger for the tree of harmony put down their hoof and created 6 lines, all connecting to each of the six!! THE COLOURS WERE THE ELEMENTS THE EACH OF THEM HAD!!
Yona had honesty
Smoulder had a white element (probably loyalty)
Gallus had laughter
Sandbar had generosity
Silver stream had kindness
And Ocellis had a yellow element (probably magic)
I could be wrong with this, like they could have made entirely new elements of harmony but I am sure I’m into something here. I’m not skilled enough to look into any of this further, but that’s the most info I have.
I always stay for that ashamed "Yoshi Darklord..." 😂
0 likesOk unrelated to the video but i have a theory. Sunset was forced to redeem. I mean think about it. Her sudden change in heart was kinda weird. You don't just go from "GRR BARK BARK" to "YAY FRIENDSHIP" in an instant.
0 likesYou know, Prince Blue Blood is kinda confusing. In season one Rarity states that Prince Blue Blood is Celestia’s nephew. Does that mean he’s Luna’s son or do Celestia and Luna have or had another sibling?
2 likesReplies (1)
oh gods you're right
0 likesSo, let's see, maybe the one who cause it, it was someone that appears after starlight, the Shadow Pony or Cozy Glow. But maybe not, because the Shadow Pony comes back because of Twilight and her friends, but even if the Friendship School doesn't exist, Cozy Glow can be the one because she stoles the magic, but I don't know
0 likesPD: sorry for my bad english
what if the last timeline is just all the timelines combined and all the destruction it all caused
1 likeI agree with your theory that it wouldn't have happened without the elements
0 likesIn an alternate timeline where Twilight never got crowned Princess and wasn't in the Crystal Empire during Sunset's three days.....Sunset wouldn't have been able to bring the crown back through in the first place.
0 likesSawtooth Waves imagined a timeline where Sunset Shimmer remains a demon-interesting speculation
0 likesThe last timeline could be the reault of all the villians fighting and destroying equestria together not as parteners but fighting over who the ruler should be. And in the process destroying equestria?
0 likesumm......i have a way to this conclusion (some how), if you see, like you told that sunset do not have timeline.... or something, the answer to this question can be because well she wasnt a complete villan...right? if you see cosy glow, terik and crisaliys are main villlan we see, like they made a huge distruction and when you come think for sunset its like twilght has made her to choose the right path, and i think she was an easy villan to defeat. well now we see she is a right hand for twilight. well for the question why did starlight didnt see sunset, because maybe her future would be or would go for a far and far away, like make a big distruction and something like this.
1 likeI would like to say that if you watch the episode with that timeline then you would have heard twilight said that that timeline is what would happen if basically the main 16 the get together If Earth party pegasus and unicorn continue to fight Thing you would get that bill and Graceland Because the earth ponies grow the food Do unicorns help with their magic and a peg so control the weather Also During the fight when the 3 tribes were fighting they started to turn to they started to clean so without Without earth pony pig side and unicorns everything would be covered in snow until eventually everything dies in the snow melts And there you got the band banner wasteland
0 likesI think the jiant wasteland scene we saw is from tirek, cozy glow and Crysales working together (season 9) but like sawtooth said there is literally no evidence.
1 likeReplies (1)
Sorry for my spelling.
0 likesIdea for the next time? What if Grogar wasn't Defeated? 🤔
0 likesI think that dead time is sunset’s.
0 likesSunset didn’t run away because of Twilight but because she had it with celestia not giving her what she wanted.
Here is my version. Sunset comes back and see that nightmare has taken over. She starts a resistance and gets either velvet or nightlight or shinning armor and to force twilight to help. They take the others she leads twilight through the portal knocks her out and transforms into demon and invade but also destroying the portal
I think destiny made her fail in order for twilight to become her pupil. Like, she used to be under celestias watch until she left for human world. Maybe without the Prophecy she stayed with celestia
0 likesRemember because the question is is powered by friendship she literally said it in that episode twilight sparkle quotewell I don’t know how this happened but Questria is on friends and you losing one group of friendships causes Losing one of your friends ends in disastrous results
0 likesI think the wasteland was the true alternate timeline, all the villans came back, killed all the ponies, killed each other, then died of starvation
0 likesI'm so happy I caught this at the right time because I love your channel
0 likesI think I know why there was a bear in the wasteland the reason there was a bear in Raceland was because a Questria was depended on magic in French the only reason that question didn’t fall apart when I try to separate it was because they had a training thing where everyone did something for the other one so that’s where the bear lease land comes that’s what I
0 likesI think sunset could not have won because maybe in the pony world the magic would be less powerful compared to the magic in the human world and maybe twilight and her friends were able to take sunset down because they still had the other five elements with them
0 likesThats what I think 😅
There is also no Timeline where STarlight is the evil Person. I think Starlight and Sunset both not evil in there hearts, they reacting so because they dont know what is real friendship. They can learn it, they are only hurt where deep in their Souls.
0 likesIt was the Storm King that ruled the wasteland timeline he created a everlasting storm⛈ which is why it was so dark,cloudy and windy.
0 likesIf that all happened, would Sunset be Princess Celestias student? Maybe she never abandoned her studies but when everyone attacked she had to join in and help but we just didn’t get to see her
0 likes* Pony Stark rolls his eyes *
0 likesExcuse me, but how? How, why, where, why did you come up with this idea? Sunset doesn't exist. At least that demonic entity. The mirror is not in the Crystal Empire. And if it is there, then the Elements of Harmony are out of the reach of Sunset. And moreover, as it has already been said here, Twilight is not a princess. There is simply no reason for Sunset to attack Equestria. And no power.
And also, Twilight is not Celestia's student, only the sister of her "niece's" husband. At best, if Chrysalis didn't ruin everything.
So, yeah, I disagree with this idea. However, it's always nice to see a video from you! ^-^
Thank you for keeping the torch alive
1 likeI would like to know if but only if it's possible how King Sombra could be reformed.
2 likesReplies (2)
me too
1 like@Sawtooth Waves Well make that you're next video.
1 likeI just wanted to write: "Elements are not in any timeline without the mane 6" and then you said that. I was like:"IDK what to comment lol"
0 likessawtooth could you do a video when u have a theory why we didn't see human sunset shimmer? We all know the sunset in the human world was from the pony world so why didn't we see human HUMAN sunset shimmer?? Just a suggestion i would really enjoy watching your theory on this! :D
0 likesNow that i think about it. What if alicorn sunset actually happened in all the other timelines. Think about it. To be an Alicorn you have to create new magic or Aka do a princess worthy deed . Like Celestia said in the first movie. Sunset was basically Power hungry. What if she did something (like making a deal with someone from an already captured and defeated Villain) And realized that she messed up and saved all of equestria from the villain herself. So she Has an adventure where she meets 5 new ponies who helps her defeat the villain. What I’m trying to say is if the rainboom never happened than Sunset could of been the pony world element of magic with 5 other ponies. Maybe she could of not only represented magic but forgiveness as well (since like i said in the beginning,she was power hungry and when she realized the error of her ways she wanted forgiveness) Celestia would of noticed that Sunset created new magic which is the magic of friendship and than made her an Alicorn (She wouldn’t be an alicorn in only the nightmare moon timeline since Celestia wouldn’t be there to teach her )
0 likesI'm thinking that timeline might have been Sunset's timeline I was thinking that everytime i watched that very episode wondering the same thing. U saying this is can and very much be true. That desolant land could very much be her timeline.
0 likesWhat if the wasteland timeline was due to one of the sicknesses in the MLP world or a new sickness creating a extremely fast and deadly plague. The plague would wipe out the entire population then their structures would start decaying. But if that were true then we most likely would have seen broken ruins other then just nothing
1 likeEdit: BRO I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS WHAT IF THE WASTELAND TIMELINE WAS DAYBREAKER'S TIMELINE SINCE WHEN YOU BURN SOMETHING THERE'S NOTHING LEFT BUT ASH
Replies (2)
COVID...
0 likes@Ak Bars yes
0 likesSunset did do it but she youed a spell to get the element of magic.
1 likeThe last timeline...
0 likesWell here is how it might go...
Cosyglow..Terik and Crystalis all won teh war...
What was once home is now a wasteland.
Im talking about the Ending of teh end! That might be what happened if tehy WON!
Hear me out, Sunset turned the world leaders into zombies and took the launch codes and yeeted a few nukes into equestria
0 likesI think that the last timeline is what would happen if all the pony's in equestria lost all their talents
0 likesReplies (1)
In short the starlight timeline
0 likesSawtooth is to dangerous to be left alive
0 likesAlso if sunset did succeed
0 likesShed just steal the crown and break the portal before twilight gets to go in
Without her element both worlds break down
And sunset destroys everything
Maybe this time line is a representation of all of those timelins including sunsets bcose we didn't get to see far ahed in the future of those timelins
0 likeshere is a new way where sunset succeeds, she murders one of the mane 6. this would never happen canonically but still
0 likesWe didn’t see it because Twighlight didn’t turn into a Princess for Sunset to be able to have a motive...just saying (no hate)
0 likesOMG I JUST LOVE THESE THEORIES
0 likesHow did you cure your Vampirism and where did the alicorn amulet go.
0 likesWhat if Sawtooth waves is actually evil.
Imagine if starlight and sunset shimmer, werent defeat, they would team up, and....well...I dont know. Sawtooth what could happend if these villans team up?
0 likesHave u ever noticed that grogars ball looks like that eye from King grutos nemisis from the Griffins. It's in the episode where rainbow and pinkie go on a friendship mission
0 likesMost likely the dazzlings would either team up with evil sunset or caused a war with all the equestria villains that used magic
0 likesyea
0 likesThe sunset demon would have never existed, because twilight didn't get the elements of harmony, sunset wouldn't be able to get the elements of harmony because she needs a spark to get them, she would have to go to the pony wold seek passed the garuds walk passed the forest and try getting the elements of harmony, I don't think it's possible.
please talk about how you said like twilight and cadence aren’t pure Alcorn’s because twilight had flowing hair just like Celestia and Luna so I think you just have to be a ruler and I think Lester Don is Celestia’s daughter
0 likesMaybe that last timeline wasnt sunset but daybreaker. I mean we had one with nightmare moon so maybe it was her. I mean the wasteland could be because the Sun is always up like how the moon was always up in nightmare moons reality, that would explain why its a a wasteland because all the planst died cause it was always hot.
0 likesBut that just what i Think
P.s really live your Videos
(Sorry if the grammar is bad im from germany🙂)
i think possibly her evil forms name could be solar flare idk lmao
0 likesFriendship games, time went on as our Twilight was does time travel shenanigans, amd came in the end of the movie, and explained that time travel shenanigans are why she wasn't there earlier, so time travel only effects the dimension it happens in
0 likesIf she wasn’t defeated ALL OF EQUESTRIA WOULD BE IN JEOPARDY! Lol
1 likemaybe the death waste land timeline was the storm kings or tempest's or maybe the pony of shadows...?
0 likesI thought celestia sayed it was after twilight came to the school sunset started acting up
0 likesMy theory is that celestia thought sunset was the element of magic but she was wrong and bc celestia thought sunset was a element of harmony she left the element with sunset
And when sunset wanted to be a alicorn. Celestia didtn to it bc she felt she was doing a wrong anyway when nightmare moon was suppose to bring night time last forever sunset defeated her but with a cost she became the demon from the human world and she desroyed everything and head for more lands....
Replies (2)
Or every villain in EG came to the pony....world.....oh no
0 likesLike the siren's......
0 likesThis was good I really liked this and that sunset shimmer demon pony form
1 likeI wonder what would happen if the portal between the human world and pony world was destroyed.
0 likesYour final conclusion was my first thought
1 likeMabye the spark of power that sunset felt from the first 5 summoned the 6th
0 likesWell i was going to comment that Sunset coulnd get the element of magic because of the difference of the timelines since that Starlight did changed and created another one, but what if, in this other different timeline, with Twilight not being Celestia protegy- protege- prot- you all got ( i am brazilian, so i don't reckon this word neither see it that much, sorry) maybe, when Sunset went to the human world, she might understand soner what she did and came back to Celestia, which was still waiting for her (if we count that in some way, Celestia by herself protected Equestria against all the treats, such as Chrysalis before she replace Cadence all over) and with that, Sunset might tryied to change back to be a good protegy- pro-... '-' and with that she tought that she was going good again (Sunset thinking of herself), but with a slip and changes of the pace, she might have discovered the things about the elements of harmony, searched for then and even if the magic isn't there, she was going to try starting a friendship with many ponies that might be the other berears (is "berears" correct too? ;-; ), and with that in mind settled, she might try to enchance their powers and connections with the elements, thinking that thats is the bestest way to show Celestia that she is a good protegy and, maybe that have drived her down to the path again like before, when Celestia didn't aprov her choice of "Studing" the magics and the elements, which have maked her mad... And that could maybe corrupt the other elements, since that Sunset (as showed in the Equestria Girls) she might be another element of harmony, some parallel of the magic one, and with this, she might possible become the "Demon/Devil" Sunset that we saw and "know".
0 likesDoes all of this makes sense?... In my head, that could be... And since that could happen, Sunset will be in Equestria, with the other elements berears corrupted (i guess) and having discovered her own element, her Element of Discover/Uncover...
I am still thinking what could be her element '-'
What if the last timeline we saw was solar flare I like that name the most Celestias bad side the one that we saw in season 9
0 likesI don’t think sunset was the cause of that last timeline what I think may of caused it was muitple villains doing things similar to the series end I’m not sure how else to explain the charred and bare wasteland they found
0 likesALL
1 likeI
WANT
IS
COZY'S
BACKSTORY!!!!!
What happened in the last dimension made by starlight???...?
2 likesWhat terrible thing happened there???
Replies (1)
insert antman endgame meme
0 likesWhat if Sunset cast somesort of spell or maybe new eement bearers ;)
0 likesI always assumed that last time was cause of Tirek.
0 likesReplies (2)
we already saw a tirek timeline where he was still destroying stuff. perhaps the last timeline was an alternate timeline where he destroyed everything at once instead of taking his time? interesting thought
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Maybe it was the extended timeline
0 likesTirek part 2, Electrical boogaloo lol
I dont think sunset is that strong also how did her powers even carry to her pony self? Also starlight probably didnt do that because people actually ship sunset and starlight XD like bro
1 likeWhat if we look at it in a different way i think when night mare moon sent celestia to the moon in that timeline what if that happened in the other timeline as well but it goes further deaper this time sunset was mad at celestia and she turned into a pony rajing she demon (her words not mine) like luna did but then she decided to rule along side night mare moon so she some how convinced night mare moon and then she stabed night mare moon in the back and finished her for good and then she destroyed equasstria like we see in the episode tell me what you think
0 likesWhy is everyone getting past the fact they have the same cutie mark their destinys should be different
0 likesBasically every evil guy had a motive against ponies bcs of rainbow goddamn dash lmao
0 likesMaybe midnight sparkle caused the one where there is nothing maybe when she made all the holes it made the world's crash in to each other and the world exploded and caused the wasteland
1 likel have an idea of how the demon sunset timeline came to be when twiligh and the human main six faild to deafeat demon sunset she an her army of teenage zombies went tho the portal and equstria foat fersly agents sunsets army but they didnt realise thath they whear doing was give sunset an advantege and sunset went in to cealestias thone room and deafeated celestia of her thone and took over the land resultyng in to the sunset timeline
1 likehope you make a video about this sing Diamond owl
I was thinking maybe the wasteland timeline is that nightmare moon and beaker clash to a big fight and because they are powerful they could cause a big explosion that cause every thing into a wasteland
0 likesMaybe it's the storm king timeline? Or the........ The Cozy Glow one??
0 likesLet me blow your mind.Luna is more powerful than Celestia I know its random but it could be true.Most of the time,Celestia is referred as the princess of the day than sun.So luna is probably the princess of the night.And controls the Moon AND The stars Not specifically the Moon.While..Celestia only does the sun.And there are billions more Stars bigger than the sun we didnt see Celestia control the stars in episode "A Royal Problem" but maybe she does that after dream walking.Or I'm all wrong and things just work Differently in Equestria.Anyways,Evil pony sunset Looks Dope
0 likesIs there a story behind how you look/sound annoyed when you say Syannax and Yoshi Darklord?
0 likes3 comments)
0 likes1) I'm guessing my comment (and who knows how many other people's comment's) about a Sunset Shimmer future inspired you to do this? Yes or No?
2) I think I've heard people came up with numerous FanFics about a Sunset Shimmer future could have came to being. For example, I think one said something about Sunset Shimmer could have used to Alicorn Amulet instead to create one possible alternate timeline, where she became an Alicorn ruler of all of Equestria with very little resistance, as a corrupted dictator.
3) I think that wasteland future was created by either:
a: All of the villains who returned to Equestria from season 1 to 4 and then went at an all out war against each other using whatever they had in all the previous timeline (for example Queen Chrysalis had her changelings and King Sombra had the brainwashed Crystal Ponies).
b: Tirek laid waste to everything in Equestria using all the magic he successfully absorbed.
c: Because the Elements never found any new wielders after the Celestia and Luna the "Tree of Harmony" eventually died and all of Equestria suffered due to the facts that their was no harmony magic left or that there was no one else (other than the mane 6 being bonded by the Sonic Rainboom) worthy enough to wield the Elements. As in just like in a lot of legends and fantasy movies (like the King Arthur and the Excalibur) the Elements will only create its "Spark" for those the elements deemed worthy.
I think the barren wasteland is Sunset using the power of the SUN to singe all of the planet.
0 likesIt’s midnight sparkle did it. Different universe that midnight sparkle have won. That means sunset shimmer and the overs didn’t stop her. Midnight sparkle make it a wasteland in that universe.
0 likesWhat if the last time line is Kroger
0 likesMy mind when he says what is the time line: well it never even happened so ok?
0 likes2 min later: same thing he said
Me: I'm good at something
So threro what if sunset hid her betrayal to celesteya and then was given the element of magic took it for her own and backstabbed celesteaya taking over the land for herself
0 likesits very simple, if she didnt exist nothing happened :). ez
0 likesIt may be starlight because twilight showed the future that if starlight stopped the rainboom
0 likesPls make was with Lightning dust or Cozy, Chrysalis
1 likeI love your videos you're so amazing and smart
0 likesIf sunset won she would be moe powerful then can cadence Luna and celestia the only one who could stand a chance is starlight or flurry heart her power would be imense inslaving or destroying the princesses she could brainwash celestia and Luna into nightmare moon or solar flare and even control starlight and flurry. Cadence would be useless since she is the princess of love and discord would defeat her.
0 likesWhat if it’s just ALL togerher
0 likesYou know like a villian battaling another villian and thats How they destroyed equestria🤷🏻♀️
I don’t know just something that came to my mind😂😅
I’m glad you’re back my pony form is a Pegasus by the way your my 3rd favorite channel!
0 likesIf twilight didn't get her cutie mark she would have been a princess
0 likesthis is epic
0 likesLe gasp that could have been a good past event for that video :0
0 likes0:59 John Cena's voice Are you sure about that?
0 likesUh actually there could have bin a timeline that maybe one of the pony’s counterpart say apple jack in the human world also died with her parents or went missing it has bin a while since I have watch my little pony and Twilight could not use the Element of magic because the element of honesty could have never bin a thing in the human world and the pony Version did not die
0 likesWow, plot twist
0 likesI think Sunset Shimmer was like King Sombra beacause King Sombra make army to beat equestria and Sunste Shimmer makes army too to destroy equestria
0 likesMaybe the mysterious world was sunset demon's cause bc like she could have torn and burned the mlp homes and has all the ponies as her slaves and her citizens following her orders and she as the queen
0 likesI actually have some theories of my own about this but i won't say it right now
0 likes0:17 because they usually keep mlpeg away from mlpfim
0 likesHey I thing the 7 timeline is midnight sparkle because she wand magic imagine she broke reality there are no human and pony world there Is just an empty world maybe because of the damage that midnight sparkle made the hole fabric of reality was destroyed and so everyone and everything
0 likesReplies (1)
She was drawn to Canterlot High because of the spikes of "unknown energy" caused by the Battle of the Bands, which was started by the Sirens, who were drawn to Canterlot High by the release of real Equestrian magic which resulted from Sunset stealing the Element of Magic, which brings us back to this video. It's the same impossibility with more steps.
0 likeswhat if sunset tried to do it but then came in contact with 5 friends :0 the could have been the werer of the elemant of magic she could have stopped nightmare moon terec, she might have started her own school had her own student named STARLIGHT GLIMMER!!! MIND BLOWN WOW isent that cool😆
1 likeReplies (1)
hehehe no one will suspect me if i hide here😎😎😎
0 likesi think the only way we could have seen demon sunset shimmer to succeed is probably Starlight to time travel until when sunset become a demon and stop the twilight and the human mane 5
0 likesYO we wanna see more of your original form if your otay with that
1 likeWait he makes a point
0 likesWhat about rainbow rocks? the movie shows that pony's get pony ears but when you watch it, the sirens get pony ears and tails! why did this happen. Also if you watch the movie the sirens ears don’t look like pony ears but the human pony ears do
0 likesAwesome thumbnail!
0 likesPerfect logic :o
0 likesé Linda essa cor da Sunset
0 likes😍😍😍😍😍😍😂😅😅😅🤩🤩🤩🤩
Hi I love you're video it is amazing
1 likeI think that sunset shimmer was with princess Celestia so I if the last Ultimate timeline it could be the something els hmmm also can you review bride of discord
0 likesI clicked very fast lol
1 likeWhat happen to equestria girls anyway . If there is a last movie I want it real life
0 likesHm. Good. All I can say lol.
0 likesI love the videos so cool
0 likesI believe it’s because Sunset is movie villain Not TV series that’s why we’ve never saw a future with she took over the world
0 likesSunset simer the demen is so cool her horn and eyes are like king sombra and hear and wings are like nithmere moon.
0 likesSunset took nukes to equestria
0 likesDear lord how are you so smart
0 likesI saw beofre ath that Celestia was woerd and looked alot like night mar emoon and she was fighting iwth night mare moon and twilight stoo there watching but they didn't see her maybe that's the result Of it and it was from the official channel so whta u think?
0 likesAccording to another video I watched the baren wasteland is rainbow dashes fault?
0 likesReplies (2)
who made that video? I'm super curious now
0 likesDragontrainer201
0 likesYour OCs a changeling right?
0 likesI love for this
0 likesUh... Sawtooth? Alicorn amulet... >>>>Where?<<<<
0 likesIs the group call with you? Or just eachother?
0 likesI don't understand.
0 likesyour voice is even higher XD
Global warming lol
0 likesWhat are changelings what’s there Purpose how whene they made and who made them
0 likesSo cool
1 likewow
0 likescool
0 likesSawtooth what happened to last of your ear what is that a hiar clip how much you have hiar clips
0 likesShe is not evil
0 likesWHEN YOUR IN MATH CLASS BUT YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO WATCH SAWTOOTH
1 likeTOTALLY NOT ME
what is your secret
0 likesif alacors go rowg shood eny of thum do?
0 likesFlim Flam
0 likesI love you i always whach you
0 likesmy notifications don't work...
0 likes🦄
0 likesPony of star like
0 likesWhat if sunsets motive was not for the sake of revenge but for the sake of jealousy of twilight .Like if you agree
2 likesMake a video on rainbow dash or I will unsubscribe u
0 likesJa Sasetsema Gesaumat
0 likesI can’t
0 likesPlease give like so I don’t cry
Honestly this show is literally for 7 to 8 years old but let's just overthink stuff lol
1 likeEarly XD
0 likesEarly!
0 likes666 comments
0 likesI love you
0 likesJose = Ho-Zay
0 likes