I think Moistcritikal said it best, just cause a person got exposed, doesn't mean that the exposer is actually a hero or a good guy that isn't doing it for their own selfish gains. A scumbag can exposed another scumbag. Doesn't make them any less of a scumbag.
YES I have always thought it’s weird people on the internet put people on pedestals first they did it with mr beast and then when he was revealed to be not a perfect human being and then they put dog pack on the pedestal learning nothing from the mr beast problem we need to release that the people on the internet are human beings and thus will not be perfect constantly and will do things that we deem wrong and write also just because someone dose something wrong doesn’t make them and instantly bad person it makes them a human who makes mistakes unless there like a pdf file or murderer or something like that then there bad people. Have a good day everyone.
yeah though the allegations being mostly false needs to be covered, especially when the real ones are way less cutthroat than dogpack made them seem by using so much lying
@@artoriapendragon3234 I would mainly see the Mr.Beast thing be taken out after in the same video he says he doesn't wanna be labeled as a Mr.Beast glazier.
Also, While its fine to think they may be paid, its weird for a paid person to link to another video that would possibly & directly discredit Mr.Beast as an angel of people.
(also this video probably was made BEFORE the coffeezilla video came out, then it came out while in post so it was edited to say "yea its out now go watch it". shit takes time so im willing to give that a pass 🤷
@@innitalii wahhh!!! other people can actually change their opinion overtime!!! wahhhhhh!!! everyone should've been a close minded idiot like me instead
I don’t think Jimmy is a scumbag. I think Jimmy is just paying for growing too fast and he played fast and loose with stuff. I like Dawson who literally lied and manipulated info lol.
@@Handles_AreStupid kris is still a degen based on old tweets and the old drawings he bought, that's a proven fact. dogpack didn't make kris look bad, he did it to himself
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@Hellboy_2109 brother in Christ, the fuck did you just type 💀 he doesn't cancel them either lol. Infact, the majority of the time, He even says don't go and attack the person he's talking about. Idk what you're talking about. It seems like you're just going off of what you see on stuff like Twitter and just take it as fact. If what I think what you're talking about is what you're talking about, he didn't leave the platform. He just said he was leaving a podcast. If you're not talking about that, as far as I'm aware, he hasn't left the platform because he was hated on. I genuinely think you're just mis-informed. He just likes to talk about shit and post his opinions to the Internet. Nothing special, but also nothing world ending.
@@NuggetMuncher20 I did not know Critikal at first. But he called out and cancelled an ytber I watched. He got so hated on he left the platform. Years after videos been popping up rectifying him and saying Critikal made with the little evidence he had false assumptions and totally ruined the dudes career. He isnt thorough and just calls people out and cancels people who dont deserve it hes one of the can cers of yt
@@griefingg0lem685 How do you know when everything you think is bad about Mr. Beast is from Dogpack? Get my point? You can't keep saying both sides suck when the person who accused the other side is being exposed as a liar. Almost all of his accusations weren't backed up by real evidence, I realized this right after watching DP's first video. The only substantial criticisms against Mr Beast weren't even that bad, everything else is nothing but rumor and random anonymous reports. Just admit it, everyone got duped like the little impressionable people you are, and now you don't want want to be seen as being wrong or easily manipulated.
I.e.: Dream and the Minecraft speedrun community (for those not in the know, he was instrumental in exposing some of the most obscure speedruns cheating and was in turn caught in probably THE biggest speedrun cheating scandal. That is beside his own behaviour.)
This isn't about that, this is about whether or not the accusations they're making is true. Christ you people are literally so dumb, unable to admit you got manipulated by a disgruntled, vindictive ex-employee. And you people have the nerve to try and tell me about politics and how we should run the country, GTFO of here lol.
It just doesn't make much sense when you consider that he is making a total of 0 dollars off his videos. Like, why would you spend countless hours making these claims and getting yourselves into many many lawsuits when there is no benefit for you.
@@TheTrueBlueOne I think that's the point OP was trying to make. A shitty person calling out another shitty person doesn't make either person less shitty. Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when neither side was right to begin with.
especeaillly the clip jobs that shit is pretty pathetic. WTF there is so very much out there to properly cover.
It would have still been pretty ground breaking without all the bullshit clips. dissapointed much.
Guess I can say at the very least we have legitimate people like coffeezilla actually doing proper work. I just don't understand this shit. They had plenty to work with. why Do dumb shit.
In the language of moist, he tongue punched Mr Beasts dirt star, he "quit drama" because he doesn't want to burn connections with pieces of shit like him. Fuck critikal dogpack and mrbeast.
@@ThatPianoNoob who told you anyone here is trying or exonerate MrBeast? Some things being true doesn’t mean false things shouldn’t be disproven. Multiple people can be bad
The point is that it doesn't matter if DogPack is good or not lol. He's not the golden boy of YouTube. This is about the biggest YouTuber ever and his virtue signaling
Watch the whole video. Almost everything he said was false. Dogpack was 100% the bag guy, and in trying to make kris look bad, he downloaded what he thought was CP to then put in a thumbnail tester to see algorithmic predictions before spreading it to over 1.5million people. Dogpack is definitely a creep, possibly more so than kris if he thought that was even remotely okay to do (obviously, I don't defend kris at all, but dogpack did what kris did, but 1.5million times....).
@@townfuneral4564 I’m not saying he’s a saint, I can criticize someone without in the same breath stating what 99.9% of the comments are saying that the other side is bad.
But at the end of it the scumpack404 didn't really prove that Mr beast is a scumbag. Even caffezilla in his crypto scam investigations couldn't prove that Mr beast himself did all those shady moves, so jimmy Mr beast is still technically innocent, cus it all needs more fundamental proofs. Lunchly mold was bad but that could've also been the factory's mistake that makes them, just like with Mr beast burger.
now were gonna get like a new vid from someone else in about 2 months, cloud chasing , i never heard of this guy and i never heard of dogpack :0 , honestly i look at mister breast as a scamming rat who only cares about money, i look at dogpack as a vengeful person who wants to see misterbreast exposed because he does seem to have biased opinions against him + he probably believes all the stuff he says, if the logic is right then so should this guy, i wonder what biased stuff he has against any of em , knowing mister breast commented on his video i wouldnt be surprised if this is the 1dollar detective he bought.
"Moistcritikal" guy who became so lazy just reacting and commenting dumb shits most of the time just another channel full of dumb shits nothing useful to see or hear
@@Blud6966 Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
@@innitaliiExcuse me, did you read a comment from THIS PERSON? Or did you read another youtube comment and assume all youtube commenters are a hivemind who must share all opinions or every single one of them is a flip flopped or a hypocrite?
@@muhammadfaridizzuddin Charlie is effing rich of course he said something like that, I'm sorry, but talking about this kid in this way is so dumb, if we're gonna live in an idiotic capitalist society like this but then also trying to erase all responsibility from the people who own the most wealth well, we are screwed. Who cares what dog pack did or didn't do unless he actually literally faked this whole thing, surprise no he didn't, Jimmy sucks, Charlie kinda sucks, rich people who pretend to be socially responsible suck
Just because DogPack isn't a picture perfect guy doesn't mean we should discredit everything he said, same goes for Mr. Beast. Just watch from the sidelines and wait for the truth to rear its head.
@@leijten well yeah.. I think the best way I can describe it is like this. Dogpack bought a shotgun and brought it to go shoot people, but Jimmy loaded the bullets and signed his name on them. Dogpack then shot all of Jimmy's good deeds which wouldn't have been shot if Jimmy hadn't made, signed and given him those bullets. Its like watching Elon Musk vs Jeff Bezos, nobody knows who they want to win less.. but thanks to Dogpack at least, we are no longer unaware of Jimmy's bad practices, so we can pay attention.. which deserves another analogy.. its like sending Sephiroth to destroy the guy who merged his daughter with a dog in Full Metal Alchemist- are either of them good? No.. but thank god Sephiroth destroyed him anyways.
a good response to this vid overall. This is why critical thinking is important. For all we know, Cereal and everyone he's interviewed are being paid or intimidated into spewing all of this. I don't see Coffeezilla's attention to detail, research or proof here. 1 dollar detective work in the end is simply just 1 dollar detective work. Ironic that this is coming out immediately after Coffeezilla's video.. makes me sus overall. And jimmy REPLYING TO THIS VIDEO!? and nothing else? Even more sus. I know Dogpack's just a clout seeker, so is Weddle- but Oompaville has the better take on this whole debacle. Everyone is bad here, there are no good people here.
Same thing could be said about the EDP situation back in 2021. Alex Rosen (person who exposed EDP) is a racist man who doesn't even work with the police to catch predators (which basically means EDP or any other pdf could easily make up an excuse and get away from drama) and had actual minors serving as his decoys at one point. Alex is in the wrong but that doesn't mean EDP is in the right either.
@samninjago8216 I thought he was right at first but then the reactions dogpack404 and Rosina Pansino in that collab rosina when should alleged cp she said owwwwww like it was a cute baby picture while reacting to Ava's text message
Yeah, but in the eye of the audience, if the exposer turns out to be a scumbag, their case suddenly will loose momentum and believability, even though they may said the truth.
@@jonathan9044 i can certainly appreciate your empathetic and optimistic views on this. but ive always experienced that content creators like these are insecure jerks. which, looking at the thread, checks out.
@@icewings_intotheclouds It's mostly a joke with no intention of causing harm that wasn't meant to be taken seriously, most people joke about things they are guilty of, like an alcoholic making a joke about people drinking a lot, it's not meant to harm people, but to have fun, he probably didn't have any ill intent but just wanted have a good laugh
@@icewings_intothecloudsexplain what makes it right in this instance, no one is above the anything Most people don't make the same art others do, art is the expression of creative skill and imagination, and some people don't really make art, I don't know if content creation in general can be considered as art(though some videos do) but some media is made for fun or as mentioned before for a living, and some people may like different types of art but that doesn't mean that they don't like art in general, many types exist and being forced to stick to just one and be judged if you don't isn't fair
@@icewings_intotheclouds First of all, when was I projecting, second of all, if someone says "I actually make art" to you, that's obviously going to come off the wrong way, if your going to criticized someone, make sure you don't offend them by belittling them, because if so, don't expect them not to have a problem with that
@jonathan9044 whole buncha projection going on here. apart from that, I didnt just randomly place my own art above his, he placed his art above mine and i was merely defending myself. also my art is probably the thing im the least insecure about, i think i make some incredible music.
@@icewings_intotheclouds This still doesn't give you the right that your content is inherently better because you "care about your art more" and "artistic intention" which is just a pretentious and conceited thing to say, you don't know the reasons he started YouTube, most people use YouTube as a mean to get popular doing the things you love, for some people, they get money off of this, and it doesn't mean they don't like what they do, otherwise most of them wouldn't look that excited for even do content creation, you don't know how much he liked doing Roblox videos or not but assume it's slop none the less, even if I don't watch that many Roblox or gameplay content that much, judging people's work so you can put yours above others because you think it's better is just place arrogance sounds like your just insecure about your own work like it can't stand on itself and needs to be compared for validation
@@coleplaysthis oh hell nah we got ColePlaysThis combing people with emojis before GTA VI so AYO COLE IF YOU DONT GET YO BRO CAME FROM THE EMOJI MOVIE, YOU TRIED TO FINNALLY TOUCH GRASS BUT YOU INSTANTLY FLOPPED ON THE GROUND CUZ YOU IS MORE STRECHIER THAN MONKEY D. LUFFY, YOU RAN OUT OF IDEAS FOR VIDEOS SO YOU RESORTED TO SHAKING YOUR B00ty, CUZ NAH YO AHH BETTER QUIT YT WITH YO "LIiiIIIKKKkkkKKeeEEeEeE AAaaanNNddd SSuubbbSSCccrIIiiBBeee" aint no way you actually posting these type of videos without someone forcing you with a bribe, homeboy lookin like he came straight from the shawnee tribe so shut yo goofy ahh up aint no one wanna hear from you, you a person with 400k subs and you beefing with kids online thats crazzyyyy
@coleplaysthis i dont expect someone like you to understand it. as I said, we have fundamentally different goals when it comes to the things we put out. but i also know that you think you can be condescending towards me because u have more subscribers. i for one think i can be condescending towards you because you're a hypocrite with no honour and your content is soulless, yet you think you're capable of arguing back right now. you are a very uninteresting person. the main difference between you and me regarding art is the following: once you stop making content because of burnout or the algorithm just randomly decides it doesn't like you anymore, which lets be real, one of the two will happen, people will stop watching you. people don't care about you as a person or an artist. people only subscribe to you because you give them extremely easily digestible content with no layers or merit. you will only be remembered as "another slop creator wanting views to boost his ego". i might be less popular than you by numbers, but i create art i can be proud of, art that I'm respected for by others and myself.
@calling whatever the hell you make “music” is an insult to the entire music industry I’d rather watch the entire talk tuah podcast than listen to that 💀😭
@@LuluSuperDelulu people like you will call everything they don't understand "yapping". only because you don't see the nuances in what im saying, doesn't mean they're not there.
@@coleplaysthis I create music with all my heart. you're in for the bag. i dont have an issue with u doing your thing. but to then come on here and act like you're on our side? you're part of YouTube's downfall, whether u like it or not. don't act like you're one to talk. my content is inherently not meant to be consumed by everyone, because i care about art and a lot of people dont understand art. you want to maximise view counts and watch time and it's very much all you care about. no artistic intentions, one dimensional slop. at least play the card youre dealt and stop being in denial.
2 months later, soggy cereal situation is unbelievable ! Soggy cereal have been exposed ! Soggy cereal is finished ! Soggy cereal is over ! And the cycle continues
And someone who begged not to be fired from a company isn't a good source either. It's all a matter of what side you want to believe, the man who got fired and will obviously have more negative bias or a person currently working for him and will obviously have a more positive bias towards him.
@ well Jake continued to say he was a close friend, not sure why someone who disliked mr beast taht much and was disparaging against other employees would single out one. Not saying everything they said was true, 100% mrbeast had a hand in the video and what was said but it’s about as credible as you can be when connected with the proof in this vid and the 3rd party investigation what the employees are saying lines up. And atleast is a lot more credible then in dog packs video recording people without there permission.
@@emptmedia Are they credible people? Most of them were probably explicitly authorised by the MrBeast company to speak. And calling a coworker a "saint" doesn't also mean everything they say is credible, it's just not getting your coworker into shit.
@@Thecanadianseige69 just think about it, if DogPack was REALLY lying, he would’ve been sued for defamation months ago by Jimmy. So why hasn’t Jimmy sued? Now Soggy is trying to drag DogPack’s name through the mud
@@zonatedspore97acamas Thats what's confusing me too, hes leaving out some things that are proven like feastables sugar being worse than hersheys which is proven on the bar itself, and extremely dangers to lie about since...diabetes.
I can’t link on comments but feb 2024. Its all over saying there's a 'new formula' and yeah it 'might not be as much as hersheys' but increasing it without properly alerting people is bad. EWG says its 43% sugar while hersheys is 58%.
Also the candy replaced ingredients making it less healthy and unorganic (Also removed organic ingredients and replaced with soy leeching and making the bar cheaper which is it or miss.) without alerting anyone other than saying there is a change, and a lot of people notcing the sugar count went up with no one commenting.
@@electricdummy_ Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
generations? u mean for the rest of calendar yr, n that’s only cuz @mrbeast has an insane number of subscribers.. that much attention enough to start a january sixth that actually gets actual change/results..
Fun fact for all mrbeast is in fact a crypto scammer. he said in multiple times about crypto and allegedly has multiple wallets and coffeezilla that exposed KSI and Logan also exposed Mr Beast so most of these allegations from dog pack are fake there's some truth for you also he's still a massive prick who should be punished by all means
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40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form
They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor
I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours
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40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king
Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring
See, I believe that if I see it in my heart
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@@zonatedspore97acamas do you not know how Cooking works ? Especially since he's using the same Examples as Dogpack and it's obvious that Dogpack used a smaller Chocolate bar to compare against a Bigger one . News Flash Bigger chocolate or bigger Foods require More ingredients. Who the Fuck knew ??? Obviously you never cooked or know how food works .
This video specifically is sketchy for a number of reasons—everyone is saying “so much journalistic integrity” but there’s a reason it’s SO HARD for journalists to get sources on the record before situations conclude. And he got four or five people to go on camera? They didn’t have NDAs? As a business student alone, this seems sketchy as all getout. I could be wrong—and obviously this is my opinion—this seems like the same kind of crisis PR Boeing uses. There’s a distinct lack of lawyers approving their statements—and both videos show Dogpack was terrified of being sued, so he was obviously cautioned it was possible. I… don’t believe his manager and coworkers weren’t cautioned the same way. That doesn’t make sense. Genuinely curious how Soggy Cereal got in touch with them.
EDIT: corrected the number.
EDIT 2: never mind I was right the first time
EDIT 3: I have been absolutely tearing my hair trying to think of another answer but I don’t think it’s possible Mr. Beast Corp didn’t know and approve of the interviews. I find it difficult to believe that they didn’t add a non-disparagement clause after part 1 came out. It’s good business, and Jimmy Donaldson always prioritizes good business, when he’s not prioritizing nepotism. Especially with at least one of the interviewees implied to have reached out to him. This reminds me of oompaville going back to defending him after that PR release. I just don’t think audiences are as gullible as drama channels (anymore) and this is clearly designed to sway YouTubers into collabing with Mr. Beast again, and not the audience. It’s really strange.
"it's basically rigged" so soggy says that means it wasn't rigged because he didn't say "for sure it's rigged' like this is the nerd in the classroom standing up and saying "technically the teacher says.."
@@zonatedspore97acamas yes I can see the response Sorry for accusing you of not responding, it didn't occur to me that YouTube comments is being wonky 😭 Can you see my response cuz idk if mine got sent either
@@zonatedspore97acamas really? He shows proof of the sugar and calorie counts. You just need to look at the numbers on the label. He also provides proof of the companies attempting to fight exploitation
@@zonatedspore97acamasyou've commented this 5 times, can you elaborate how he was wrong already? I've asked you a lot of times and you've refused to elaborate. Edit: whoops. He did respond my bad
Is no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables? I thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars?
some may find it hard to believe that there will become a day when the sweet utter of mrbeast drama will become milked dry forcing drama YT to gain their much undeserved nourishment elsewhere
'Mr. Beast and his company are bad and shady people and have done things they should be called out for' and 'DogPack 404 is deserving of scrutiny and criticism considering his manipulation, obvious bias and lies' are two statements that can and should coexist. There's nuance in this.
Maybe its for views but has everyone forgot that he cured peoples blindles built wells and houses and stil people are calling him bad maybe he did wrong things but hes a human and he is not above mistakes
@@vikspod 100% I hate the people are still acting like Beast is still this evil and shady guy ...no . It's one thing to be negligent and one thing to do stuff on purpose. Jimmy is stiil young and his channel grow so fast no one would be prefect . IMO Dogpack still the biggest scumbag
@@Lacewise yeah, lots of bankrupt companies! I’m sure they are working. Everyone there is! That’s why they don’t have time to respond to any of this bullshit!
@@kra-v2r that's why you hire lawyers. Lawyers do all the work, you just how to show up for court if it goes in front of a judge and you have to give testimony.
DogPack's accusations should be thrown out completely. His credibility is zero. It does not help anyone to give any credibility to liars. Rosanna Pansino is going to go down in flames as a result. It'll happen. She is looking like a complete tool posting DogPack evidence and is going to end up in legal trouble for it.
U guys realize people don’t document their terrible actions right? Especially when you become a big business. Then that business can do some pretty terrible things to you & never be noticed. Why r we keep sitting on the fence when it come to people with “status” it’s like you guys want to be manipulated
IMO the issue is that people change sides too frequently too. DogPack is a possible scumbag? That doesn't mean Jimmy is suddenly the good guy here. The reverse also applies ofc.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@officialmonarchmusic 95% of the things said against him was false. And while the 5% is a problem, people don't really care, they just want to see the #1 channel burn.
Been saying this since the start tbh. If Dogpack404's initial video wasn't mostly made up of ridiculous things, like the now infamous "that racoon is a paid actor" thing, then maybe I'd take less issue with the video, but on the whole, it just came off as unserious and petty. The response made it worse, with the "Well yeah, that's just a joke, don't take that seriously" Why was he saying that in a way that doesn't imply a joke at all, in a video that is talking about a very serious matter? It's poor form
@@nickmaster3886 the core problem with the Mr Beast company was it was badly structured and hired bad people including dogpack. The solution is to change its structure which they are doing following the recommendations of their law investigation. Mr Beast is doing the right move
@Faithys. Well look, I kept getting censored about it, but while he's an idiot and the Beast Team could be at fault too, he's still a fucking idiot, Crypto Scammer, and he keeps hurting a good amount of people with his videos, and some of his biggest stunts have not been that helpful like TeamSeas. It's asking for too much of my good will, I can't see him as a good person when others are paying the harsh price for the expense of others.
@Neon_Henchman You have failed time and time again to stay on topic, and you're quite literally just yapping. Yes i've summed it up as your feelings, because thats how it is. It's your opinion. I respect it, but it's wrong.
@@Neon_Henchman bah! thanks! ☺ i really do try. it's hard not to think of all things in a binary sense of 0 and 1's or only in right or wrong, black or white, good or evil. i try to leave room for the gray area because i think it lessens the possibility of falling into echo chambers. it's definitely hard in recent times, but you never realize just how easy it is to fall into the trap of parroting others until you open yourself up to seeing it from a different perspective. it's harder than one thinks, and trust me, i've still taken some hard falls from it, but you end up just learning, you know?
@@Faithys. Lol, you don't have to hurt people physically to still hurt them, Mission Flight had to pay from their own pockets afterall. There you are bringing semantics.
Whatever man, Beast Shills really are something else.
@@Faithys. Before I get censored again; If MrBeast is the type of person to get into said position of power and get away with stuff easily when he's clearly dumb, then there are surely even more like him.
When there's business to be made, companies and bad actors can exploit it, there's an ableist, bullying his audience regularly, that could participate in a charity about mental health, when he may be the very reason they needed the charity to begin with, but it being a charity makes it not being scrutinized.
I hate what the Internet has become, and maybe it's a generational thing that you don't know what was appealing to millions like myself at first, but of course just sum it up as "my emotions" as I see hundreds of people getting screwed over by the current system.
@Neon_Henchman You're gish galloping right now. Stop presenting flimsy arguments randomly that don't support the main topic. Mrbeast has literally never harmed anyone physically, and most people who have interacted with mrbeast have come out in defense of him. And literally, WHAT are you talking about... Mrbeast isn't in a position of power. He is the top youtuber not because youtube gave him that position but because he earned it through hard work. How does the cryto thing show a lack of human values? What human values does he lack, exactly? What false narrative are you trying to spin, because it ain't flying.
@@Faithys. Good, I get censored again. Dude, I don't care if he's young, there are thousands of lives who have to interact with him, yet he never safeproofed his stuff, like warning Mission Flight before the video was made that there'd be a Third Party involved.
Besides, the Crypto thing shows a lack of human values, among other examples, I again don't care if it's unrelated to YT or he's a stupid kid, that's whom YT put in a position of power when he couldn't handle the heat.
@@Faithys. But his business smells like rancid cheese! How much good will should I give him??
Being new on YouTube doesn't excuse you for manipulating the Crypto Market for personal gains like he did, there's a lack of Human Values which is what I've always alluded to, but sure if you consider it seperate from YT, then how does it excuse the Mission Flight thing?
People claim it's a Third-Party that's at fault, but that means that MrBeast worked with the doctors while never warning them "Hey! There are going to be some middlemen involved in this good deed, but I will still end up doing the right thing and paying the surgeries in the end." Not even something like giving them his phone number or whatever, there was zero contact between the doctors who wanted to do the right thing, and the Beast Team who made a video with millions of views, the latter of which wasn't bothered to look into said Third-Party when warned of discrepancy.
Was he, or were THEY, evil in this case? Not quite sure, but if anything, he sure is hella incompetent and YouTube should've never given him this position of power he has now if he wasn't ready. That's the problem I expressed earlier, that's all YT is now, promoting cretins and bad actors, while losing its identity that was so appealing to millions like myself. That's what happens when there's business to be made.
Dude, this is all just stupid, I don't care if Jimmy's young, there are thousands of lives that interact with him and he can't safeproof his crap, ever.
@Neon_Henchman I haven't made the claim jimmy is "just a youtuber" more than once, and no being a youtuber isnt of lower standard but it means he has lack of experience in the field he's now trying to get into. And you're charting into crypto currency, which is literally not the topic at hand (This is a red herring fallacy) and you're asking morally ambiguous questions. Helping 1000 people at the expense of less people isn't exactly evil, but it isn't exactly good either. You are attempting to paint an ill picture of mrbeast whos still young and learning.
@@Faithys. Oh enough with your semantics, you keep claiming Jimmy "Is just a YouTuber!", as if a YouTuber is of a lower standard somehow. He has 50 Wallets, and is it worth helping 1000 people when you're screwing over 100s or so? I get censored for saying it.
it really feels like more and more, nuance gets completely lost and everything has to be a production that makes one side wrong and one side right rather than about actions taken. it even shows within the video --- seeing how upset hoodie was about the delay in helping people walk, rather than seeing that the actions taken by not only dogpack, but also by jimmy (as i'm sure it wasn't just dogpack's videos that nuked the connections that were happening for that video, but the bad press surrounding the squid games' contestant treatment, the lunchly controvery, and his recent internal investigation) - he places it entirely on a single side.
corporations don't solely focus on the chatter of youtube commentary videos when they nuke big philanthropy deals. they do their due diligence in the character and face behind their actions for possible blow back and while dogpack's videos were not helpful, there was plenty prior and after that had nothing to do with those videos that would make a company or association weary of partnership. it absolutely sucks for those who were to gain a procedure that would help their lives, but that "blame" goes beyond just a single person behind a megaphone and should include the other who has selective hearing and muteness.
@@Faithys. YouTube just keeps putting idiots into positions of power if they're ready to suck up. I don't care that "he's young!", 50 Wallets among all the other things is clear foul play, and is it worth it to help 1000 people when you screw over 100s if not 10000 others?
I didn't even agreed 100% with DogPack, but, guess what, there are nuances.
@@Faithys. Well here's a news flash; maybe YouTuber should've NEVER been a job, being a regular user for 15+ years, the magic is completely gone as it's all about money. Screw Companies working on YouTube.
@@Queef_Storm Crappy food products aimed at children. Hiring an SO. Likely being privy to inappropriate discord chats between his staff and underaged children. Associating himself with Logan Paul and KSI, to name a few.
@Lacewise This video is honestly very high quality and works to debunk almost 99% of everything dogpack said and also shatters most of dogpacks credibility moving forward. It shows us that dogpack has been doing this all in bad faith and has mostly cherrypicked evidence aswell as manipulated employees at mrbeast. I think that mrbeast made his fair share of mistakes as we all do, but he nor his company are bad. Mrbeast is still a YOUTUBER, he is LEARNING to run his company. Give him a break.
@@vikspod The video from coffee literally said jimmy was aware because in the podcast part he said he bought it and he promoted multiple on Twitter whether he bought it or told them to buy it doesn't change the fact he knew about the crypto. Most average p#d# supporter
@vikspod L bozo you clearly didn't watch the coffizilla video in multiple segments and especially in the podcast part jimmy mentions saying he bought the crypto and he supported on twitter the only thing up for debate is whether he was the one to physically buy it or if he told the person to buy it. Your clearly to busy with their d down you're throat to pay attention.
@Neon_Henchman So basically Mrbeast team payed the 3rd party which payed everyone except one group and now I'm a shill because I'm pointing out this doesn't make Mr beast a bad person? If your point is they didn't pay them(not their fault btw) so they bad and even though in the end they paid it without any litigation they're still bad, what does all the people they did pay count for? You remember that this whole thing was about giving people their sight? They even did more than they advertised and this isn't the first or last time. They did it for hearing and they are currently trying to do it for people who can't walk. You can say Mrbeast is just a normal person and not some extremely good guy but to say he's a bad guy is retarded
@@pheonix2700 They tried Phone Calls, Mail, they tried many things, yet they got nothing, only when the drama kicked in. How does the complete lack of communication like that excuse the Beast Team? You shills are something else.
Mrbeast should sue the heck out of dogpack, you can't just make up bad stuff about someone and just get away with it, he's so obsessed that he will lie to take mrbeast down , he's a loser
@ lots of companies sue broke people. Why would that stop Jimmy Donaldson? He hired expensive lawyers, from a business perspective, he might as well put them to work. Nothing you’re saying makes sense. It’d be much more beneficial to openly publish the corporate culture and documentation if Dawson lied, and it would be a deterrent for future potential bad actors. Your opinion doesn’t match reality.
@@vikspod Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Asking for nuance after he's been defamed for half a year is too little too late. How about we restore his image a bit so people don't think he's the scum of the earth?
This isn't even the first time this happened. Dream was completely innocent and the defamers did the damage and got away with it. But I can't put all the blame on the defamers. In reality people are super jealous and would hop on to any justification to spew hatred towards them.
@@nathancrabtree2148 He hired a massive law firm to carry out an investigation on him. The law firm is not going to risk their reputation by lying. Mr Beast is already carrying out the restructuring based on the investigation's recommendations.
The bigger problem with you is that nothing will ever be good enough. When criticising someone its important for the criticism to have a solution otherwise its pointless. There has to be something the person can do to fix things. But when it comes to people on your side, nothing is ever good enough. You will blame the Mr Beast company no matter what they do next.
@@vikspodCreating a brand with your “friend” who is a known scammer makes a you a bad person with intentions driven only by profits you mentally challenged individual. But I guess in Lagos Nigeria you dont care about things like morals or a spine cord for that matter
@@Lacewise why would mr beast waste his time-I imagine he’s a busy guy-to sue someone who has no money? Just to prove dogpack lied? The truth always comes out in the end…so no need in my opinion. And the company is never given the benefit of the doubt. In fact otherwise-people jump on any false accusation for clicks and views. Seems like people just want to take them down. It’s ridiculous!!
@@theanubisfan10 but only one of these people is a ridiculously wealthy millionaire using money manipulate others into trying to solve all of his problems.
I think people forget that Mr. Beast had controversies before and is known to be kind of shady, this is just the first controversy that really blew up, sadly it doesn’t seem to actually expose anything
@@Neon_Henchman i wonder what was popular on the fist few years of this decade and literary everybody talked about it and used it for trading for money...
@@vikspod you ignored all the stuff I’m referring to (things the video calls into doubt but are either defamation so should be handled in court or Occam’s razor and probably happened). Fascinating.
If Mr. Beast and the employees don’t sue Dogpack404 for lying about them it’s because there are worse things in their communications they cannot get rid of. End of. No alternatives.
@@pheonix2700 If I remember correctly, they did tried to contact them directly, but they never got anything, I mean what prompted their video to begin with then?
How about you stop being a sheep? I understand Beast finally paid them in the end, 2 years late but still the right thing, but this is ridiculous. Exactly you not putting him to a higher standard just 'cause """Charity""" is why the Internet is dead.
Personally, I’ve seen these situations too many times, and I say it like this:
“Even when both parties have claims, only the 3rd will be able to decide.”
No matter how altruistic or hypocritical you are, in the end, your In It to solidify your butt and make sure not to be swepted away. (Everyone is, even if u mean it as a good cause.)
Even if we say 100% of dogpack’s claims are invalid, he still brought an idea, and issues to light that Jimmy won’t be able to hide from, but also forces him to change or admit to what he did wrong, or to defend against and make sure he doesn’t do again, or ever.
No matter who’s right, they’ve gave insight about who they both truely are with these statements, and from that, it’s up to the people, the 3rd party to decide.
Tbh, I was up with dogpack’s side, since I don’t really enjoy Mr.Beast, but to say I’m blind enough to not be able to see the problems he has is very hypocritical. (Soggy’s an ass for not acknowledging the other side, and really doesn’t help his viewpoint if you call the other side dumb enough to “eat crayons.” If they don’t agree with you .-. )
People take what info they have at the time, and run with it, we all do, but as lunchly shows, Mr. Beast isn’t as much of a saint, or just as good as he says, and as some of the points Soggy brings up, (even if their also problematic, like also using things said in Podcasts as actual fact, idk why.) dogpack is the same.
Soggy claims he’s not a Mr. Beast glazer, but this video does seem like it. (Or his voice is just a glazer voice, I can’t tell.)
Mr. Beast did hire a pedo, and Chris did do the shit they did, even if it wasn’t on the main Discord, as well as work with KSI and Logan Paul, both individuals ruining their image, and making poor decisions, and scamming millions from people, but also theirs dogpack, who also made up evidence.
People can change, and I will 100% believe in that, but hypothetically, if both side were wrong, and both truly didn’t happen or nothing that Jimmy knew, this can be a growth for both Dog and Jimmy, since growth can’t occur without pain, we may not feel it, but pain has to happen for growth.
From what we know, theirs definitely shit that Jimmy has done, Lunchly is a example of it, and If u like Jimmy, hope he will grow from this, that’s all he can do, and hopefully, mend and make a better position for himself. (U might be able to help 1000 people, but if u forsake 10,000, does that make u a saint, or a devil? )
For dogpack, hoping he get backlash, he will grow as a person from this, and or be truthful in the future.
Will both these happen, probably not, but can we hope, yeah, and whether any of it is true, people can grow from this, and hopefully, the audience will understand not to fully put blind faith into just a man, since like us, he’s also imperfect.
Enough of the speech talk tho, let’s see what will be revealed later, since we all have a past, and Jimmy had said the N-Word before (like 1-2 decades ago, so it has been awhile.)
Whether side wins, kinda hope that the audience will be complacent in the outcome, since at the end of the day, they’re the ones deciding, not the influencers.
@@vikspod again this doesn't make them bad in any way, moving from a casual company to a professional one will have hiccups. Atp people are just cherry picking to find a few faults that don't weigh to what has been upheld most often
@@Lacewise Here's what we have evidence of so far. According to Coffeezilla, one individual who Jimmy hired acted badly(re crypto). Lunchly is a trash product and Logan Paul is a douchebag.
For Jimmy to redeem himself, he needs to restructure his company and avoid negligent behavior like hiring bad people. He is already doing that following the lawyer's investigation and recommendation.
He also needs to resonsider associating with Logan Paul. That wouldnt make him a bad person tho just a person who is friends with a bad person
@@vikspod Lacewise kinda put it nicely, but due to YT's Auto-Mod not letting me speak, just look at Mission Flight, they weren't paid after the "1000 Blind People", they made a video saying that months before DogPack came into the picture, and they only got paid recently as MrBeast is sorry he got caught.
He may've done the right thing in the end, but man, this smells like his Lunchlys, stop giving celebrities godhood.
@@vikspod no one and no company that needs that much benefit of the doubt should be given it. Otherwise you’ll be taken for a ride by people like Maria Butina. You need to know when the only explanations are “people did bad things” or “there’s a massive conspiracy against this person specifically.” You can throw doubt on anything, even things that definitely happened. The real question is when should you?
It makes sense dogpack made mistakes because he was trying to rush the videos before the companies were cemented as major media organizations. The video claims he did it because he was malicious. If that’s true, everyone involved needs to sue him for defamation. Let the courts figure it out.
Otherwise this entire video is a cheap manipulation tactic.
@@Neon_Henchman 1. Coffeezilla's video shows Mr Beast was most likely negligent than "bad"
2. Being friends with a bad person doesnt make you bad just negligent
3. I have no idea what this "chocolate factory" is about.
4. "A healthy youtube channel" if these few occasions make his channel unhealthy, then all the thousands of people he helped must make his channel healthy.
@@vikspod There's been manipulation of the Crypto Market for his own gain, heck he's friend with a scammer of the medium. Also, negligent? Maybe in certain regards, but he freaking cherrypicked the person to give a chocolate factory to, among other things, all for the sake of content. This doesn't look like a healthy YT Channel at all to me.
That is perfectly fair to say, DogPack AND MrBeast are not above criticism. However, what annoys me is when someone does said criticism, it often gets twisted solely into that they're getting something from it, which waters down the debate.
Like, yeah, technically the Critics are seen as better people, so they end up benefiting from their criticism of bad practices, but then should they have just done nothing? Let it go for even longer? It's so easy to just reverse the good will they did, like, did Retsupurae benefited from shitting on Nostalgic Critic, or did they actually had a point that his video/s were trash, waking some people up from his garbage?
I even expressed my skepticism towards charity events online and also MrBeast last year, as there had already been several frauds in this sphere and some people may not be investigated simply for "Looking" like good people, so I asked "Are we 100% sure that these guys are doing the right thing?" I was treated as crazy, but then Jirard came out as a fraud later that same year, which was exactly what I had feared, it's annoying how things turn out.
There are indeed nuances, but it's clear that, despite all the hobbyists littering the Internet, none of them are doing their due dilligence until a decade later, and when someone wants to do the right thing but there may be emotions and a personal experience involved, they get the UNO Reverse Card, and so it's often too late to do anything, had it not been for DogPack, the freaking Clinic wouldn't have gotten paid as promised.
"Mr Beast and his company are bad" what makes them bad? A fairer take is Mr Beast was negligent in his business practices. After the lawyer investigation, he used their feedback to restructure the company. I think he's doing the right thing.
@@jjhaya "Soggy made accusations that Dogpack was a stalker based solely on a Discord chat, where a user suggests that stalking and texting someone are the same thing—an assertion that is simply untrue."
Where, exactly, did Soggy make this accusation?
"Additionally, MrBeast followed Soggy on Twitter around the time he released his video, which implies a clear bias."
Following someone does not equate to endorsing them, and correlation does not imply causation. You're assuming bias without providing context or evidence.
"The hypocrisy in Soggy's video is laughable. He criticizes Dogpack for not conducting valid research, yet he tries to discredit Dogpack's friends, particularly Camnuggets, by misrepresenting a situation where Cam was accused of watching minors engage in inappropriate behavior on camera. In reality, Cam was actively managing the situation and instructing his moderators to ban the offending user, demonstrating responsible behavior rather than enabling misconduct."
This is really the only blunder in the video, which is why he deleted it from the video.
"Soggy's attempt to dismiss the allegations of an "uncomfortable workplace" by interviewing female employees was also troubling. He pointed out that the controversial “no does not mean no” statement was written by a woman as if that somehow legitimizes it. The authorship doesn’t negate the fact that such a statement can foster a workplace environment conducive to harassment."
He didn't "dismiss" the allegations, he added proper context. He brought A female employee on to explain the purpose of the statement because she was the one that wrote the statement. The fact that you think he brought a women on to delegitimize the allegations is beyond absurd and a stark indicator that you didn't actually watch or understand the video.
"What really frustrates me is Soggy's apparent favoritism towards a corporation. While I acknowledge that Dogpack may not be the most reliable source, he is currently the biggest whistleblower in this situation."
If Dogpack is the biggest whistleblower, that only speaks to his prominence, not his reliability. Simply being the most vocal or visible doesn't inherently make his claims credible or unbiased. If you're going to criticize Soggy for perceived favoritism, it's only fair to apply the same level of scrutiny to Dogpack, regardless of his status in the situation. Is it possible for you to believe that perhaps Dogpack is just a disgruntled former employee?
"In the video, the HR representative confirmed that the Locoya allegations were true. Why is this being overlooked? The typical corporate response was to assure the victim that they wouldn’t have to interact with the perpetrator again, but once the victim left, they brought the perpetrator back; the assistant was so traumatized by Locoya that they couldn’t even be in the same vicinity. This admission is significant."
It wasn't overlooked. And why does it matter? The focus of the video wasn’t on criticizing MrBeast or Locoya or anyone else—it was on addressing Dogpack’s baseless accusations and poor reporting.
"Moreover, the harm caused to creators like Nicole Rafiee, who lost access to her medication, and the neglect towards BenOfTheWeek, who went three days without care and received only a meager cold meal as an apology, cannot be ignored. There are credible reports regarding MrBeast's company being neglectful at best and intentionally harmful at worst. I also struggle to support someone like MrBeast, who staged a real-life version of "Squid Games"—in this context, he embodies the role of the wealthy antagonist."
This is entirely irrelevant. Again, The focus of the video wasn’t on criticizing MrBeast—it was on addressing Dogpack’s baseless accusations and poor reporting.
"Siding with a multimillion-dollar corporation feels wrong."
Correcting misinformation is "siding with a multimillion-dollar corporation"? Really? It's like you're trying to categorize Soggy and Dogpack into predefined boxes, deciding that one is less trustworthy than the other, rather than evaluating the merit of what each person is actually saying. It's pathetic.
"Additionally, all the individuals who testified for MrBeast are financially connected to him, which raises questions about their motivations."
Sure, but it doesn't invalidate their testimony. Without evidence showing that these individuals are acting out of self-interest or manipulation, this assumption undermines their credibility based solely on their relationship with MrBeast. It's funny, you're claiming that Soggy is the one being biased, but all you've done is express you're own bias throughout this entire comment.
"What I find particularly suspicious is how Soggy managed to get all these MrBeast employees to break their NDAs for this video. In previous videos from various creators, employees, and former employees were terrified of violating their NDAs. Yet here comes SoggyCereal, who somehow gains exclusive access to multiple individuals willing to speak on the record in the same interview, with MrBeast even commenting? This inconsistency makes me question the integrity of the whole situation."
I don't know exactly what you're referring to but I doubt the employees broke their NDAs. MrBeast commenting means jack shit.
"This inconsistency makes me question the integrity of the whole situation."
Maybe you should question the integrity of Dogpack, and acknowledge the criticisms instead of writing up this poor excuse of a defense?
@@ilymitski Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
14:06 the problem is not the warcrimes joke, the problem for Jake weddle is that there was a lot of mental and physical and emotional stress on him, to the point that it felt traumatising for him (according to how weddle described it.) the lights being constantly on in a white room where he was trapped for days, no recording of the passage of time, no sleep, and the fact that this man had to Run a marathon for this video, becoming physically weakened and broken, for a monetary incentive and out of the feeling of helping his friend Jimmy, has to be some grounds for at least some offence to be charged. I could definitely see Jake pursue this line of action, but will it hold up? We don’t know. And no I’m denying that Jake at least had some free will in the room, but Jimmy could have communicated better the taxing demands and potential dangers to Jake before he committed.
I suspected this video would be biased in favor of Mr. Beast even before watching it. Soggy made accusations that Dogpack was a stalker based solely on a Discord chat, where a user suggests that stalking and texting someone are the same thing—an assertion that is simply untrue. Additionally, MrBeast followed Soggy on Twitter around the time he released his video, which implies a clear bias.
The hypocrisy in Soggy's video is laughable. He criticizes Dogpack for not conducting valid research, yet he tries to discredit Dogpack's friends, particularly Camnuggets, by misrepresenting a situation where Cam was accused of watching minors engage in inappropriate behavior on camera. In reality, Cam was actively managing the situation and instructing his moderators to ban the offending user, demonstrating responsible behavior rather than enabling misconduct.
Soggy's attempt to dismiss the allegations of an "uncomfortable workplace" by interviewing female employees was also troubling. He pointed out that the controversial “no does not mean no” statement was written by a woman as if that somehow legitimizes it. The authorship doesn’t negate the fact that such a statement can foster a workplace environment conducive to harassment.
What really frustrates me is Soggy's apparent favoritism towards a corporation. While I acknowledge that Dogpack may not be the most reliable source, he is currently the biggest whistleblower in this situation. In the video, the HR representative confirmed that the Locoya allegations were true. Why is this being overlooked? The typical corporate response was to assure the victim that they wouldn’t have to interact with the perpetrator again, but once the victim left, they brought the perpetrator back; the assistant was so traumatized by Locoya that they couldn’t even be in the same vicinity. This admission is significant.
Moreover, the harm caused to creators like Nicole Rafiee, who lost access to her medication, and the neglect towards BenOfTheWeek, who went three days without care and received only a meager cold meal as an apology, cannot be ignored. There are credible reports regarding MrBeast's company being neglectful at best and intentionally harmful at worst. I also struggle to support someone like MrBeast, who staged a real-life version of "Squid Games"—in this context, he embodies the role of the wealthy antagonist.
Siding with a multimillion-dollar corporation feels wrong. Additionally, all the individuals who testified for MrBeast are financially connected to him, which raises questions about their motivations.
What I find particularly suspicious is how Soggy managed to get all these MrBeast employees to break their NDAs for this video. In previous videos from various creators, employees, and former employees were terrified of violating their NDAs. Yet here comes SoggyCereal, who somehow gains exclusive access to multiple individuals willing to speak on the record in the same interview, with MrBeast even commenting? This inconsistency makes me question the integrity of the whole situation.
Okay so I'm going to give my honest opinion. I think the majority of the video is well done. You did a great job talking about all the things Dogpack did wrong. But there is just one nagging thing at the back of my mind and that is the employee interviews at the end.
Usually when it comes to situations like this, especially when legal ramifications are at play, employees usually stay out of the public discussion mainly at the request ("request", not instructed/demand, that could be seen as legally problematic, especially with opposing opinions) of the organization as to not stir additional confusion or accidentally step over the feet of the public relations team. Even if they speak in good intention they can accidentally say something wrong or word something incorrectly (because they're human, not because they accidentally slipped out forbidden knowledge).
So that whole segment where you have just a bunch of current Mr. Beast employees, especially ones close to Dogpack is just really weird from a PR strategy perspective. Because with the whole issue unfolding as well as internal investigations they would be the most likely employees to be contacted within the organization for inquiry with regards to their experience with Dogpack.
But let's say it is perfectly plausible that all these employees happen to comfortably just sit down and do a public facing interview, and the PR team somehow never contacted them with regards to making public appearances on the matter, or are perfectly fine with them doing so. There is a recent issue that Mr Beast (either Jimmy himself or someone in the organization) is reaching out to other big content creators and encouraging them to make videos on this video Soggy made.
So now, with all that, I can't help but think that perhaps the PR team, and to an extention Mr. Beasts organization, were informed about the making of this video prior to release. And how much they may or may not have a hand in any of this is now up in the air.
This could very well be a false flag and Jimmy/Mr. Beast is just really dumb trying to increase the videos exposure by DMing creators, as opposed to drafting and presenting their own statements publically, all without Soggy's knowledge. But that false flag still needs to be addressed regardless.
Of course they were involved in the making of this video. Soggys somehow has access to all this behind the scenes stuff, including the recording of dogpack being fired and we just gonna pretend that Soggy is somehow a renowned investigator despite having zero background in investigative journalism, yeah right!
@@Абдулло-щ3е9э lol i wrote a whole ass essay criticizing every point in this video and I only received replies saying "yap" or "i aint reading allat."
@@TheTrueBlueOne Yeah in another of my comments that unfortunately did not receive as much attention, I mentioned how this is the only video MrBeast has both commented on and pushed to youtube commentators (pyrocynical for example) while he keeps refusing to address the allegations publicly. Rather than helping clear out questions, the investigation letter raised more suspicion and questions. His new implements include removing 3 of his CEO's, finally implementing mandatory training and codifying policies. So what the hell was the company doing before?
Yeah I also criticized soggy for being condescending and obnoxious in a child like mocking way, needing to insult dogpack's intelligence every 5 minutes to discredit his points. That made the video really hard to watch.
@@cjinworldofgaming511 I never said it was true. Either you can't read, or you're purposefully misrepresenting me to try to bolster your non-argument.
@@rars0n Ah, yes, you still believe it's true even when Jake the Viking clowned himself. Perfect. He brings Jake Weddle up when discrediting Jake the Viking because it's supposed to tell you "You know it's bad when even people who claim Mr. Beast intentionally hired the guy discredit Jake the Viking".
"Mental gymnastics reek of desperation" nice projection mate. You try so hard to make a well articulated argument that you fail to see the issue. Since Jake the Viking clowned himself (even criticized by Jake Weddle), and no one provided evidence, the best way is to think if it makes sense, or not (which does not. I don't think when you hire knowingly a predator, your mother would also approve). I also want to address is that the main reason why he criticizes the AI segment is because Jake had no reason to not put a disclaimer before starting the video, especially when you notice he didn't outright state it was AI, and there's no other reason to do it other than clearly bad intentions.
@@cjinworldofgaming511 It doesn't matter what I think, nor does it matter what you or what Soggy Cereal thinks. That has no bearing on whether the claim is true or not. I've never met his mother, so I can't possibly comment on whether that seems ridiculous or not, because I don't know the first thing about her.
"Jake Weddle even confirms Jake the Viking is a terrible narrator (the vid literally shows the clip of Jake calling him terrible at 10:32)"
He says "he's not a good guy, and that's an opinion based on his actions and my eyeballs." So what? Either Jake is correct and he's not a good guy, or Jake's opinion is wrong. Neither one has any bearing on whether or not what Jake (the Viking) claimed is true.
These mental gymnastics reek of desperation. This is not how one crafts a solid, logical argument. For the record, I don't like Dogpack, Jake Weddle, or Jake the Viking, but I'm not stupid enough to think that my opinion validates the unfounded idea that everything one of them says is a complete lie. Also, it's really stupid to call Jake Weddle a liar repeatedly, and then try to use him as a credible source to make the claim that Jake the Viking is unreliable.
And by the way:
"And it's not hearsay when even Jake Weddle even confirms Jake the Viking is a terrible narrator"
That is literally the definition of hearsay: unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge.
@@baconingbad I realize that, but a claim made by someone with direct knowledge of the situation is a lot stronger than the counter arguments of "that sounds crazy" and "other people don't like him." It's not at all a sound refutation of the claim. It just further adds to the spiteful, personal tone of the video and diminishes the credibility of his legitimate arguments.
@@rars0n "Opinion" I just rewatched the segment, and it makes even more no sense. Just think about it, don't you think it's ridiculous that Jimmy, who barely turned 18, with his MOTHER, would knowingly hire a predator? And it's not hearsay when even Jake Weddle even confirms Jake the Viking is a terrible narrator (the vid literally shows the clip of Jake calling him terrible at 10:32)
@@OtakuHustle heres another observation, if Dogpack was really talking complete bullshit, Jimmy could've and SHOULDVE sued 3 months ago for defamation. So why has Jimmy not sued yet?
moreover, this video seems like its trying to bash Dogpack on a personal level, so its just a glorified, premium version of AliKoca's short
@@shadowed69 " Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago." To quote from Soggy Cereal: "First, have you ever realized how absurd that sounds? (context: It was about the mother allowing Delaware to be hired by Mr Beast despite knowing it) And secondly, Jake the Viking is terrible and unreliable, and even Jake Weddle confirms it" There you have it.
@@shadowed69 I am not saying Soggy is 100% trustable, but neither is Viking. Soggy actually addresses Viking’s claim and explains why he can’t be trusted. Did you even watch the video? Soggy isn’t even trying to say that Beast is a good guy.
Honestly, I'm only 16 minutes in and it's not a great video. Not terrible, just not great.
The interview with Garrett is just a bunch of leading questions; everything stated came out of Soggy Cereal's mouth in the form of a yes or no question. At 9:57, Garrett even says "yeah, you said it man." Garrett is the one who is supposed to be telling the story, not the interviewer. It's a really poor way to ask questions, especially if you're trying to sound impartial. If the rest of his interviews are anything like this, then they're completely useless.
The bit about "war crimes" is misleading at best. Jake was clearly retelling the story as if it were a joke, even if he didn't outright state that it was ("24 hours of breaking the Geneva Convention" was also clearly an attempt at a joke). Dogpack adding text on the screen in an attempt to make the claim seem more serious is its own thing. Jake has said some stupid things, and I don't even particularly like him, but he didn't lie about that specifically, and he clearly knew it was a joke as he stated as much in his own video (which Soggy Cereal portrayed as a "slip up," which is really reaching).
The AI video was stupid, but Jake literally stated immediately after presenting the clip that it was AI. I highly doubt anyone is going to turn off the video without hearing it, because if they're interested at all in that clip, then they're probably going to want to know what Jake thinks about it.
Also, regarding Delaware, it's pretty clear that in the original Dogpack video, Jake is retelling information that he heard from other people, not stating things he knows as fact. Sure, this could have been made much clearer, but again, that's Dogpack's fault. Trying to portray Jake as a liar simply because he doesn't always explain himself perfectly within someone else's edited video highly suggests that this video is not impartial.
@OtakuHustle I need to ask. What WERE the "main arguments" Dogpack tried to push? Most were about faking videos and this has been disproven. The "illegal" lotteries weren't illegal. In the end he showed proof of how pathetic dogpack was in his interview to get re-employed. If this doesn't make you stop riding dogpacks dick which smells like liar since miles away, you are just a really stupid human.
Yeah, this is a shill piece. It's pretty obvious given the connections this guy seems to have, which makes the "debunking" as a whole suspect. This is PR, so, why should I believe any of it is remotely factual?
What is even worse, is if true some testimony contradicts established testimony. Some of the math on some things is wrong. And the poster of this video is behaving in a revolving door fashion. (Defended Beast, realized they were wrong and apologized, defended Beast again) and we have to remember MrBeast worked with Logal Paul and KSI who have been involved with some bad things before.
This entire situation is incredibly suspicious, there is absolutely corruption on this end but to what degree we can't know yet.
@@shadowed69 I think Soggy's arguments are far poorly elaborated, they don't address any of the main arguments in any of the allegations and try to "debunk" irrelevant details dogpack got wrong. His evidence is in no way credible as all the employees are currently employed and under NDA's. Just like dogpack, screenshots and vague images are no form of proof either. This is a very poorly elaborated video with clear intent to deceive and counter defame MrBeast's offender (aka dogpack). His argument about illegal lottery 1 is braindead, his interview with the pandemic contestant is the most obvious lie ever (split 1 million amonst 24 people for free, yeah and pigs can fly), and defending the poor excuse of an investigation letter from the law firm Jimmy himself hired. Absolute dog shit of a video, at least dogpack was more elaborate with his cherry picking.
@@Абдулло-щ3е9э This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl Correct. I am making a guess, I do not have proof, I am making observations based on the knowledge that I know. I was not trying to prove anything, I stated that there was something nagging at the back of my mind and that this could just be a false flag on my part.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl Yes, I am guessing based on knowledge, I never said that anything I wrote as fact, I just said that there was something nagging the back of my head and that it also might be a false flag.
There's nothing to talk about, he just contacted people asking questions unless you got proof any of the higher ups were involved you are just guessing.
@@zaherbaveaur How did you "try" to block channels? By praying about it? It's a quick & simple process which is effective every time, one of the few features this website offers which truly does work. Unlike say...commenting with the expectation that it will actually show up.
@@leontriestoart He reacts to other peoples videos. I don't like his content but he also has no reason to apologize for claims he didn't even make himself. Him expressing his opinions on other peoples research does not require his own research or a apology if it goes wrong. He is just following the info like the rest of us but he makes low tier garbage videos about it.
The people making claims need to do the research and provide evidence. Not the guy saying "oh wow" to those people lmao.
To be fair, the people like MorePegasus and Moistcritikal who are reporting on this situation are making millions of views each video. So i’d honestly do the same.
@@Stender_ Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
It’s funny, that you can just not watch this shit and stop making a fools out of yourself by trying to “fight it”, while creating even more slop. Who cares what anybody watches lol, it ain’t affecting you in any way.
@@Smokin_5.56 He didn’t even cover this entire drama. He originated this type of titles, but it’s only the newer slop channels that have ran it to the ground
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form
They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor
I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours
Life's a fight, but trust, I'm ready for the war
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king
Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring
See, I believe that if I see it in my heart
Smash through the ceilin' 'cause I'm reachin' for the stars
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
Highway to heaven, I'm just cruisin' by my lone'
They cast me out, left me for dead, them people cold
My faith in God, mind in the sun, I'm 'bout to sow (yeah)
My life is hard, I took the wheel, I cracked the code
Yeah (whoa-oh-oh)
Ain't nobody gon' save you, man, this life will break you
(Whoa-oh-oh) in the thick of it
This is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows (everybody knows)
They know me where it snows, I skied in, and they froze (yeah)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told (ooh-ooh)
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na-na-na-na, ay-ay)
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na)
I guess this is how the story goes
IT DOSENT MATTERR, I JUST WATCHED THE ENTIRE VIDEO AND DOG PACK IS A PEACE OF SH^T, HE LITERALLY RUINED A MAN'S REPUTATION JUST BECAUSE HE WAS LAZY AND GOT FIRED
@@droketheroper and lets ask how the hell did Soggy get access to all these employee interviews and the supposed "leaked" dogpack audios if Coffeezilla couldn't get hold of any MB employees
@@TheTrueBlueOne EXACTLY, HE IS NOT INNOCENT, if many youtubers/streams are getting kicked off their careers because of screenshots of them texting minors mrbeast still has LOTS of debunking left
@@romanticmonkey It creates a space for bias, by not simply disclosing that information up front. That's doing the opposite of what the goal of this video is. And it's true he said so in a Chud logic interview.
Pegasus hasn't responded to any of the allegations being disproven yet, I doubt he'd start now. Could be wrong, but several people have been debunking Dogpack since his first video, and there's no way Pegasus doesn't know about it. Pegasus knows that being anti MrBeast is not monetarily advantageous, and that's why he's never criticized Dogpack before.
Hey man great video, really enjoyed it. However, I would like to point out the missinformation about the festiable bar. If you do the math to convert the serving sizes the equal mass, the Feastables bar ends up having more calories, total fat, saturated fat but cholesterol having slightly less sodium and total sugars. These are usually the differences of 1~3 grams or milligrams in the case fo sodium and cholesterol but I think it would be disengenuous to not point out that the Feastables bar is not in fact healthier than hershey's.
I dont got any media literacy. I blindly believed dogpack, and now im gonna blindly believe you because its easiest on my mental bandwidth. The world is too crazy for me to keep up with, so if you get disproven on your claims, I'll blindly believe the person who debunks you. As the cycle goes to make sure I'm not swallowed whole by the court of public opinion
This is like that Garfield meme "You are not immune to propaganda, a̸̧̢̺̬͕̬̟̼̳̲̖̩̩̦̯̟̤̹̹̯̺̞̣̓̃̂̇͌̍͌̅͂̆̓͛̀̓͆̐̆̾̏̈́̒̽̔͐̌͑̉̂͆̏̔͗͊̒̂̋͌͘̕͝͝͝͝͠ͅͅn̵̢̡̢̡̡̛̜̳̰̬̝͎̬͔̰͈̥̙̻̘̥͍̪̣͈̼̺̼̝͓̘͖̦̻͍̱͈̮̳͖͙͍͛͂̍̓̆̂̀͌͌̐́̋́̓̔͗͌̇̅̊͐̿̍̀͘ͅͅḓ̶̡̢̡̛̤͓͕̹͕̟̭͇̖̣̯̝͚̹͖͖̺̲̤̯̬̮͖̰̻̼̘̼̹̤̰̟͔̘̫̼͕̦͌̀́͊͌̆̌͐̈̐̐̇̀͛̄̉̓̐̌̀͑͐̾̃̈́́͋̄̃̉̃̑̌̒͊̅̈̀̀͛͑̾̀̆͛̇̚̕͘͜͜͜͜͝͝ͅ ̷̧̨̡̡͈̟̻̣͚̻̥̭̙̞̖̜͖̝͕̩̼̤͍̭̦̫̳̬͈̖̤͔̼̤̞͖̜̻͎͙̬̰̂͊͜ͅý̴̡̡̨̛̺̩̝̙̥͕͓̦͉̗̱͙̳̭̘͓̈́̆̃̈́̏̈́͌́̓̈̄̎͒̓̀̀̂̒̀̐̒̋̇́̈̒̾̕͝͝͝͝ơ̶̡̨̨̯̘̟͚̝̭̲̥̰̥̗̰̯̫̜͙̪͍̱̥̳̥̥͙͓̭͍̦̹̞͈̬͍͔̍̍͂̍̍͑͗̌̅̈́͌̓́͛̀͋̂̆̌̂̏͌̆͗͆̃͐̋̄̉̽̇̂̃̑͂͝͝ư̸̡̡̧̨̡̨̢̢̢̛̖̲̗̗͕͙͓͍͍̦̹͉̻̗̩̟͕̮͚̥͓̲̳̣͈̲͎̳̺̦͕͓̙̒͆̋͆̈̎̃͂̊̍̈́̽̃̿͆͗̈́͛̇̈́͂̓̓̈̾̋͊̂̕̕̕͜͠͝͝͝͠ͅͅ ̸̟̓̅̋̋̀͌͋̎̾̋̇͒͊̋̐̅̏͐͌͐͑̑̀̈̃͐͑̒̍̽̈́͆̇̉̕̚̚͝͝n̷̡̨̛̛̙̯̩̫̖̮̜͇̻̖̥͇͍̱̯̳̤̪̭̭͙̱͕̗̘̗̪̫̭̙̬͖̟͆͛͗͂́͋̐̈̇̓̀̃̈́̓̈͘͜͜ͅͅȩ̸̧̢̢̛͙̹̣̻̥͕̗̤̯̭͙̝͎̼̼̝̖̭̹̳̝̹̞͔͎͈̰̦̝̪̣̠̩̤̍̄͊̓̏͒̅̂̈́͐̍̽̂͂͂́͊͋͐́̓͐͛͂͂̏̐̉̊̎͘̕͘͝͠ͅv̸̨̨͎̗̻̖̮͖̫̺̱͔̝̬̲͙̱̯̙͎͚̰͒̅̾̇̑͜ͅĕ̷̢̡̡̛̝̖͎̘̬̠͈̱̳̼̲͔̹̹͙̩̤̞͍̪̤͖͚̝̰̫̩̦̘̪͔̬̤̹͙͖̼͖̳̫̪͙͕̈̓̔́̐̇͑̉̏̈́͆̍̾̃͛́̎͆̄̂̃͌̍̒̂̒̓̉̔͂̄̈́́̎͐̚͘͜͝͝͠ͅͅr̴̰̤̬̪̼͚̀̈́ͅ ̸̨̨̢͉͓̝͇͖̰͈̲̹̬͖̜̖̣̻̎̽́͆͗̓͆̇̅͑͒͗̍̂̒͐͂̉̍̾͐̀̊̌̉͛͌͊̌͊̑̎̌̓͐̈́̂͆͑̈́̏̑͝͝͝ͅͅw̷̛̛̖̟͚̣͈͔̗͔͈̟̞̮̪̟̐̓́̽̀̔̃͌̾́̄̎̔͗̒̅̈́̆̿͐̿́̍̓̈̈́͊̽̈́́̉̀̅̏͊͒̆̓͘̚͜͝͝͠͝i̷̢̧͈͚̟̬̼̫̱̣͓̝̹̮̯͛̾̀͒̽̽͠l̸̡̹̹͓̯̹̤̠̱͔͉̺̙̮̗͚̙͇͎̎͂͊̌̐̋͑̌́̏̅̃̅̐̈͋̈̽̃͂̾̾̌̈́̌͐̈͊̏̌̈́͊̏̅̈́͂̄͌̔̔̒͒͂͘͝͝͝͝l̴̢̨̡͖͕͓̲̗͓̲̫̣͔̼͇͔̩̟̻̥̳̠̝̞̯̻̯͚̪̈́̊́͒̇̓̔̒̒͐̂̓̅̍̂̋̋̄̋́̑͗̆̓̓̄̈́̃̾̐̈́͛͌͐̉͐͗́͂͗͐̚̚͜͠͝͝ ̸̡̨̢̺͖̺̘͓͔̟̱̥̹͍̺͍̤̩̖̥̗͓͚͔̯̫̼͍̫̀̀̍̿̍͌͋̉͗́̐̂̍̎̌͗̀́́̀̀͒͒͂̽̓̋͌̓͋͆͂͒̾̋̀͊͆̂̎̾̓̒̓͑̈̍̾̊͂̕͘̕͜͠͝b̶̡͔͍̻̬̗̥̲̻̼̣̀̆̐͜ḝ̶̡̮͙͔͚̬̫̫͖̦̯̦̠͈̰̤̗̻̭̟͉̞̺̭͖̗̠̟̫͙̱̭̯̹͎̃͐̊̃̇͜͠."
@@Rendag. Yes and no. If you’re consuming it passively, the onus of fact checking isn’t on you. But if someone is gonna make it their personality to go hog-wild in the anti Mr Beast side, then yes. You should at least fact check. What an abysmal world it would be if public outrage were fueled by factually dubious claims. This doesn’t only apply to hating Mr Beast, but to also treating him like a saint, which was the case up till this year. People were humiliated for even insinuating he’s not an angel.
TLDR: You don’t need to fact check if you’re just consuming this drama for entertainment. If you switch to an ACTIVE role by causing a fuss/slander online, then at least fact check what you regurgitate. And people need to stop this annoying binary where you unconditionally defend someone then suddenly switch sides and unconditionally slander the same person. Always be nuanced and non-parasocial.
I know how you feel, and I'm sorry to say, this is in fact another load of garbage slop. Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
You should just stop listening to this stuff, and honestly anything anyone says about anything really, at this point lol. Just get off the internet and read a book my guy lol.
@Cyntaria at this point you really just gotta accept that we're kinda doomed, thr only way to stop this in my opinion is to stop watching or do more ressearch
Same. I was awfully gullible to a really annoying degree for me, like if some youtuber says something is true that I don't have any evidence against, I'll 100% believe them
This video is wrong because my pet gerbil said so, also the creator of the video eats pineapple pizza and so that's proof that they are wrong. (This is a joke, to be clear)
This always happens like clockwork. Ppl just need to stop taking this internet stuff so seriously. Me and a friend were just making jokes throughout the dog pack video and I think more ppl need to be like that. You’re a third party and don’t need to pick sides. The court of public opinion can also be loud and wrong if they dislike the person being accused enough
Fact check is very important. Facts don’t lie, although it’s difficult to distinguish that from fake news, hence why you need to check the sources used.
I haven’t thought of it that way. I’ve made fun of DogPack meatriders before but I never thought about people having trouble with media literacy. Thank you for the fresh perspective.
@@UsernameUsername0000if dogpack published these videos withou the Ava stuff coming out, it wouldn’t have gotten literally any traction. And the Ava stuff probably wouldn’t have gained much traction if it happened any other year imo
At the end of the day when you shut down your compuret all of this internet bs doesnt matter. Its just for some short entertainment nothing to even ponder about for more then 5 seconds or take sides in lol.
@@Wddlestrm Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
I blindly believe dogpack because I already hated Mr beast lmao so any slander against him seemed justified. I guess I have a couple less reasons to hate him now. A lot of those allegations seem stupid now so maybe if I didn't hate Mr beast I would have been neutral about it like many people who questioned the whole thing. Lesson learned.
and that's how you should NOT do on all those comments, I get it, it's tiring, but always be skeptical and objective, make questions, there are awful people who will always take out of context almost anything. so please, be skeptical!
@@UsernameUsername0000 that's true but it is parasocial stuff at work and what MrBeast represents to them - rich people actually being nice and genuine and wanting to give back. That's a genius brand, but not a real person. And while I personally wasn't surprised, being a more cynical leftist, many people felt genuinely disappointed and hurt. They worshipped him so much, now all those feelings have to go somewhere. Some are practicing denial to cope, others are embracing hatred, and while I have no compassion towards rich assholes I don't think anyone deserves to be cancelled unless they're doing hate speech that actually harms more people, so even Jimmy deserves better. But whatever lol.
You and me both honestly. I have seen SO MANY drama and it's INCREDIBLY hard to keep up with everything. Its mentally exhausting actually, because who can you possibly believe at this point? Sometimes its stupidly obvious but other times it isnt. But the biggest problem is. YOU. CAN'T. IGNORE. ALL. THE. DRAMA! There is literally drama in every freaking corner! This is the "theme" for 2024! Every single month there is either a youtuber who royally screwed up with.... You know. Or there is a youtuber who did the most stupidest acts in public I may add! You know who I'm talking about. 2024 is THE year for the internet drama I'm telling you! 😮💨 I can't wait till 2024 is over honestly.
@@litguru4748 to anyone here, as someone who studies history, do not choose any side. You go on a side as far as you agree with the interpretation. some allegations are more likely to be true than others, accept those, but don't trust all of them. accept that mrbeast has done charity and value that, but do not think he is a perfectly good person. there is no in the middle, there is no on one side, and there is no queen of england. you just have to be at a reasonable point between likely, unlikely and false.
Yes, since the situation doesn't really affect your life, and your opinion isn't gonna have an impact to your situation. There's no point doing research into this, unless you're gonna have something to gain, it's more important you focus on more important things.
Proven enough that videos and audios displayed in a controversy are unreliable depending on its reveal and clarity. Just because they exist in a form of a media as 'irrefutable' doesn't mean it tells the real, full story, and can be fabricated in some sort of way.
It’s ok, because not many people actually take any of this seriously, they see the videos, meme on it for a while, then move on. If you really cared about the situation just do your own research on things
@@UsernameUsername0000I've never forgiven anyone for more than scamming children with illegal auctions, talking inappropriately in chats with minors or profiting off crypto scams, all while acting like he is the most charitable person in the world and is actively losing money. His partnership with known crypto scammer Logan Paul should already tell you he doesn't care about anyone or anything other than money.
your fear is what cancel culture operates on. you do not want to be the one on the hot seat so you constantly echo allegations you hear from someone else, and instead of apologizing and learning and growing when youre wrong you just point the finger at someone else. genuinely disgusting behavior, stop being a coward and learn to face your fears. you are making everyone else suffer by giving power to this toxic chonically online over involved situation with your fear. stop caring what people think
this is genuinely sad for the future of the world that the youth simply wants to turn their brains off and believe celebrities and people with loud voices rather than grow a spine and learn media literacy. and all just to fit in with a group of people who would eat you alive if they considered you to be opposition? what is wrong with you creatures bro
@@UsernameUsername0000 No one has any positions anymore, really. Half of this comment section is admitting that they "fell for it" with dogpack's videos. Who wouldn't believe him? He vaguely showed proof and called out patterns we've subconsciously known for a while! It's gotta be true. That is what we all think, and will continue to think again because its simply the easiest thing we can do in such a chaotic world. Go with with the flow or drown in the waves. That's how it always was, and always will be.
I’m pretty sure you’re being partially sarcastic but I swear this is exactly how the internet operates. People used to defend MrBeast to death, and now they want nothing to do with him. They’ve forgiven other people for much less.
for the dogpack firing audio, a source on that would help a whole lot. AI voices, including one you point out in this video have made snippits of audio borderline useless as evidence
@benevans8674 what about the mr beast ai voice with the stutter where Jake weddle proved it was ai, super convincing ai clip if yku didn't know it was ai man you have no clue how much ai has been improving 😂😂😂😂
@benevans8674 No, AI has progressed wildly in the past year. AI voices has already been used as false evidence in the court of law, and thankfully was caught through further examination of the raw audio file. But the recording itself you cannot tell.
@@Chastity_Belt You should actually record all your HR meetings, HR is not your friend, they are there to keep the company working, and having proof might help down the line.
Pretty weird that this termination video only shows up months later for this specific video discrediting Dogpack...when they could have used it months ago (if it existed and wasn't AI generated) when Dogpack first started his accusations.
@@keatonwastaken Well deep fakes are kinda easy to make and showing no sources is what dog pack did, so show sources when discrediting someone to let people know if its a legitimate source, look at what Johnny samoli did with his 'girlfriend' with ai. And given there's plenty of voice recording of him it would be easy to get audio, and I too want a source to know where this even came from, if its an employee or hr themself that recorded it.
Its also...he literally goes over ai voice being used to trick people so you'd think as he finds things he'd source them so its not dog pack accusations all over again....
@@Chastity_Belt Most places require terminations be recorded if the termination is a result of misconduct. This is to protect the organization in case someone tries to sue for wrongful termination.
For an ai voice to sound that good would need a lot more footage plus you can hear a range of emotions that ai voices are terrible at recreating, it’s pretty obviously real lol
honestly at this point it doesn't matter if that audio snippet is real or not considering everything else. dogpack is a sick and lying bastard and i thats how i saw him ever since the rosanna video. not to say mr beast is innocent either lol. why didn't mr beast explain all this himself and save him the trouble? probably bc he does have something to hide
Sources: trust me bro In all seriousness, just become neutral until all of the drama ends and we get to see all of the people gets held accountable for their actions.
@haxie4516 You replied to me, you were the one lying about, "it's behavior is normal according to actual wild animals." When it's obviously not. Your doing exactly what Mr.Beast is doing, you are unable to attack my argument so you attack my character. If you can't manage a simple discussion, than I suggest getting off the internet, little bro.
@@PalauBallEdits He wasn't being dead ass. He was insiuating that it wasn't a wild raccoon like the video claimed it to be. And that it was kind of animal abuse too. "paid actor" is just his way of telling y'all that at least somebody got money for bringing in a raccoon.
@Count_bleck_T Wild overreaction dude. I just replied that a bunch of animals behaviour researchers said it didn't exhibit any behaviours of being a domesticated one. I didn't lie, weirdo.
Why are you getting so heated over this? Literally just asking for more info, and you're tearing my head off. Wtf.
Also, petting an animal doesn't mean it's a domesticated one lmao, idiots on YouTube pet wild animals all the time. MrBeast and co are hardly the most intelligent out there, and the stunts they've done have been dangerous at times. Them petting a wild animal would be one of the least dangerous things they've done lmao.
@haxie4516 bro you really believe they pet a wild racoon? A WILD RACOON. Stop lying on the internet little bro, 😒. Why are you even attempting to defend such a blatantly false narrative. The racoon wasn't wild, they pet the damn thing in the video.
@@Count_bleck_T Intriguing, as all of the animal behaviour researchers that I've seen speak about the matter have all said that it didn't exhibit any signs of it being a trained or domesticated raccoon
Yeah, the Raccoon was domesticated. Which would make sense since it didn't run off at the first sound the mr.Beast crew made. (They aren't exactly quiet)
@@reaperz5677 Nah, Dogpack's video was full of unserious BS that the MrBeast "team" or whatever have never denied, and had actually pointed out in BTS stuff that shows how they did certain CG or whatever. His initial video came off as nitpicky and petty.
MrBeast is, at the very best, wildly incompetent and negligent, but more likely there's some malice there, but the point that MrBeast's PR manager made about Dogpack being fired after a month and him doing this because he's spiteful is almost certainly accurate. Even though his video series on the matter has raised some really important and serious points, Dogpack is not some good guy, and he's certainly not doing this out of the goodness of his heart.
@@MikeTheMaster102 His point was that "MrBeast's videos aren't really as "real" as you think it is". Whether or not the raccoon was real is kind of moot (although he was an actor, obviously. There's no way ANYONE is sticking their hands next to a potentially rabid animal), because the whole point of that segment was that "These videos have glaringly fake shit in them, yet MrBeast's team denies it".
@@Deimos-qz1bx in a tweet he backed up the statement about the raccoon being a paid actor (by saying it was a paid actor its not like he had evidence) so im pretty sure he was being serious
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Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Because coffeezilla wanted to investigate solely the crypto problem, which mr beast might be in the wrong for. Meanwhile mr beast found soggy investigation to be more benefitial to him.
It's easy when you're being paid by a crisis management team to make a video slandering the guy who opened the floodgates on your client. Mr Beast probably keeps all sorts of blackmail to silence his previous employees.
@@agamerdude7596 My line of comments under the allegation Videos when they came out was. Dogpack is talking BS and all the content creators making videos on this are taking part in a big circeljerk to get some views. Maybe dont assume someones standtpoint on an issue when they are only making a factual statement without any evaluation or jugment.
@@Telendil And? Does this prove Dogpack is a morally good person that exposed Mrbeast for the good of humanity? NO, it proves all of them are no better than each other, this does not matter in the first place, because the evidence already suggests they are all not innocent
@@Sircowcosmic "Random youtuber" Do you realize Soggy Cereal had exposed Airrack? a partner of Mrbeast? And was also a guy who researches on topics like this even before this saga?
@@Sircowcosmic "Random youtuber that came out of nowhere" Do you realize Soggy Cereal had exposed Airrack? a partner of Mrbeast? And was also a guy who researches on topics like this even before this saga?
@TheTrueBlueOne Because like I said, Coffeezilla seems to make actual allegations with some kind of evidence but even he couldn't say for certain, the crypto allegations would need likely need a legal investigation done into them, not a youtuber. The dogpack allegations are easy to respond to because they're blatant, malicious lies, there's something to the crypto scams it seems.
@ I’d argue the crypto things MrBeast is involved in weighs a lot more than most of the things DogPack exposed, so why would no MB want to come forward to prove his innocence there?
The situations are different. Coffeezilla doesn't make allegations without evidence to back them up, so he'll be struggling to make contact with an employee properly because it'll be caught up in legal red tape whereas when it comes to people talking to Soggy about Dogpack, people will be much more willing to speak because Dogpack is blatantly, provably lying, I mean if you watch this video in its entirety, nearly every single accusation gets disproven, Dogpack is malicious and vindictive, and always has been. There's legitimate criticisms of Mr Beast, Dogpack simply should've never led the charge on the criticisms.
There’s too much evidence backing up dogpack while this random YouTuber coming up and “debunking” dogpack doesn’t make sense with insider info does not make any sense
@@WhyThoOz it’s not about defending dogpack it’s about if mrbeast actually did the stuff he said and with mrbeast not responding at all and how this guy got insider info while people like coffeezilla could barely even get in contact with a employee coffeezilla is a much more reliable source than a random YouTuber that came out of nowhere
@@somethingsomething404 yeah, something something "the investigator that i secretly paid for found me innocent and my critic is talking bullshit" ahh video
Bru I'm neutral in all this, but yall are on dogpack's sack too much now. Mrbeast is literally doing what dogpack has been doing for the past few months and getting his own people on his side, fairs fair🤷🏾♂️ I don't get why yall would defend dogpack for his lies on mrbeast but bash mrbeast for getting a youtuber to defend him, especially when dogpack literally got rosanna or whatever her name is to pull up and back HIM up and report him to the FBI for something that obviously wasn't even true🤣
Just stay neutral, it's not by force to choose a side, especially when both sides are riddled with corruption and lies
@@vices8019 atrocities that yall are just blindly believing even when yall get info that dogpack is NOT a trustworthy person (neither of them are btw, which is why you shouldve just stayed neutral and not be so naive in the first place🤷🏾♂️)
@@rileyn54 its definitely this, notice how the things he criticises is just the "less evil" things like the lunchly. seems mr beast and co decided to use it as a scapegoat to cover up their other atrocities
Very valid point, kinda seems like Soggy’s a hired insider making this just to put MrBeast in a more positive light. I mean, the messaging multiple creators to react to this one video and asking them to make videos about it on their own channels just seems like a corporate version of damage control to be honest.
@@bennytennyson then I recommend referring to him as "Pegasus" to avoid confusion, or that will just confuse 90% of people watching this because they only discovered him because of his absurd content. You don't see me referring to mrbeast as "Mrbeast 2"
@@rocbot9479 Atheists seeing numerous random off-topic comments: "meh" Atheists seeing a single religious comment: "NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD, YOU CAN'T POST THAT HERE!!!!!"
Y'all gotta get a life if you're pressed over a single religious comment, grow the fuck up guys 😭
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I dont trust mr. Beast i dont trust dogpsck hell i dont trust soggy. People online are not idols they are just people EDIT im glad to see my commet is getting attention. Replies also help explain what I mean better
@@TheTrueBlueOne Dogpack is far from imperfect if you watched the video, so is Mrbeast, they are both far from imperfect, both are shady, both are scumbags, both are exposing each other for selfish reasons
@@TheTrueBlueOne "Dogpack isn't perfect" This is far from being imperfect, this is literally bias and misinformation, Mrbeast is not the great person the kids think he is, but most of the allegations made by dogpack are complete fabrication and bs
None of them are innocent, nor the messiah, Dogpack isnt the messiah for bringing light to Mrbeast and Mrbeast isnt the Messiah for bringing light to Dogpack, Stop choosing sides and form your own opinion.
Soggy literally did not, he literally criticized Mrbeast multiple times too, illegal lottery, delaware, ava kris tyson, cryptozoo, lunchly, did you watch this video with your eyes closed and brain turned off?
@@OtakuHustle This is pathetic honestly, do you even have a life to write all of that? Cause i am sure anyone with a life wouldnt write that only to be pathetic and wrong at the same time
@@TheTrueBlueOne That interview/audio section didn't sit well with me either. You're not gonna get confirmation from MrBeast employees that DogPack's a good guy. And if Jake made an AI voice that sounded pretty similar to MrBeast, who's to say DogPack's begging for the job isn't AI either? I never saw the MrBeast comment tho.
ngl people have already started poking holes in this video already
1. Why did MrBeast comment "Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol" and then quickly deleting it?
2. Why did MrBeast start mass forwarding this video to EVERY big commentary creator on YouTube and TikTok, begging for attention?
3. Soggy received full air travel coverage from a MrBeast affiliate to fly over to the US to conduct the interviews.
4. How did Soggy get access to all these Beast employees and especially the "leaked" DogPack audio files, when Coffeezilla couldn't get a single contact from MB?
5. Soggy has already seen what Jimmy has done in point 2 and has expressed disappointment that Jimmy has essentially turned this video into MB propaganda and a "get out of jail free card"
Personally I've been waiting for Jimmy to address it, and him not doing it until now is just at this point weird. I didn't fully believe Dogpack/Jake either, just waiting for a full response from all sides and noticing all the contradictions myself.
Real, we have no idea how any of these people truly are behind the screen and they are basically strangers to us. All three of them could just be shitty people that want to stir up drama on the internet or profit off of attention. Its best to just make up our own opinion instead of wasting our time on switching sides over and over again or blindly defending one side of an internet drama.
Good. Keep questioning. Make your own conclusions. Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@sarimniazi3192You can't make a claim like that in the first place because it's complete headcanon.
He also isn't even in the clear according to soggy, did you even watch the end? Even soggy pointed it out. I don't know why you're accusing him of this BS when this is what Soggy is known for in the first place, he also literally was skeptical of Dogpack for months not because of he got paid for it.
Honestly with the amount of actual proof in this video it debunks most of Mrbeasts allegations, then again he still has lunchly and crypto and other stuff.
@OtakuHustle thanks man, now atleast I dont have to watch this video. It looks like you've written down its main points and flaws. I hope more people get to read your comment.
Way too many times will I blindly believe someone just because they said it and they are popular. You should never fully trust someone you don't know, but you shouldn't be paranoid either
Honestly bro this video is just plain bad and doesn't really address any of the main arguments in each allegation. Doesn't help with the fact that a self proclaimed detective continuously acts obnoxiously and condescendingly needing to insult his opponents intelligence every 5 minutes.
1. Delaware: Soggy finally addresses delaware's name rumors but not the sex offender backgrounds, the interview with garett further strengthens this as "just" rumors but didn't mention what it was related to, however jake the viking addressed on his tweet about the sex offender allegations and claimed no charges were pressed so nothing's been proven or disproven.
2. War crimes: We only have anecdotal evidence of this event since no video was released. Soggy claims Jake Weddle talks highly about Mr Beast but completely sweeps under the rug the fact that Weddle admitted to accepting Jimmy's compensation (he claimed he used Jimmy's "blood" money to fund his work on twitter) after dogpack's second video went viral. So Weddle was talking shit about Jimmy before and now highly AFTER he was paid?
3. Illegal lottery 3: Soggy claims dogpack purposely hiding the "free entry" description, however the main complaint was customers not receiving the shirt after purchase, which should be easily proven false by MrBeast if he showed tracking numbers.
4. CGI: Honestly it does kinda look like CGI, and I'd understand why people would believe it is so, after all soggy did admit the car was edited from red to blue. Regardless, this is not very important.
5. Feastables: So I thought this was very easy to see for myself, I just went to walmart's app, compared the 2 bars, Hershey's creamy milk chocolate (45g) and Feastables milk chocolate bar (60g), I live in Canada so the serving size is 1 bar not 1/2 as shown by soggy. I compared hershey's at 45g with feastables at 45g/60g and this is how they differ:
The difference is absolutely insignificant, given how a feastables bar is bigger than hershey's, it makes it ultimately unhealthier. I really found it stupid how soggy compared 30g of feastables with 43g of hershey's, of course it's healthier when it's half the bar. The only macro that feastables is lower in is the sugar content (45g/60g), which is insignificant because people don't buy "healthier" alternatives to save themselves 1-5g. For it to be significantly healthier it should be at least half the sugar content. Overall they are both the same and feastables is just as unhealthy as hersheys at 45g, and more when comparing bar to bar.
6. CP allegations: Here is when I lost all respect and credibility for dogpack (besides him collabing with rosana pansino and even renting a whole theater to watch a 1 hour long mr beast downfall documentary, yikes...) the claims were baseless, Rosana from day 1 has given 0 evidence for any of her claims, they are always screenshots or "I heard", they manipulated the group chat's content and fabricated a story of CP distribution. She started acting like a man child (or woman child), giving out childish responses when she was being called out on Dedrio's stream.
7. More collateral damage: 58 claimed at the end of the tiktok video that nothing was edited which is highly improbable given you HAVE to edit a gameshow AND video. Regardless, not a very important allegation. As for the 1 million dollar contestant it does seem like he did get rewarded so not much to say on that.
8. Mack: He's shown as a random contestant but is constantly seen in multiple videos and sometimes winning challenges. Given that someone allowed him to stay in the mansion implies he has connections, giving him some form of favoritism and advantage. In one of the games Mack won a car for being the first one to be disqualified, soggy seems to conveniently miss out on important context every single time.
9. For the iphone giveaway, regarding the pewdiepie clip, I think it was there to strengthen the point that giveaways are often deceitful and unethical. Giveaways can be easily faked, so the only way to disprove this is with tracking numbers and not more vague testimonial screenshots like soggy showed.
10. Locoya Hill: Given the lack of evidence and the removal of his video, it's hard to believe any of these claims are real, but it conflicts with the investigation letter uploaded by MrBeast on twitter. If they are innocent, why were they removed? Replacing CEO's in companies is huge. So I see why people would still raise suspicion. I'm also unsure if revealing that recording of dogpack's termination is legal lol, but it does explain why he's so salty and eager to take down MrBeast.
11. Moon scam: I don't really think it works on soggys favor the screenshot of a customer having to email a refund request for that incident only to receive it 6 months later. So did they refund everyone at all?
12. Safety measurements: The boys vs girls game argument was about fairness. Yes, of course you should prevent the spreading of covid, but by inserting employees that potentially know how the game works, contestants are at huge disadvantage, which diminishes the credibility and fairness of the game. If they wanted it to be truly fair, shoot the video when the pandemic is over. As for the raft video, there are no clear shots of crew members spending the night on the raft, the video clip shown of them being on a boat doesn't show the main members and doesn't prove they that they went back on the raft to sleep. So there could be some potential dishonesty there.
13. The 3 stupidest arguments from soggy: Illegal lottery #1: Probably the biggest allegation from dogpack, claiming mrbeast made over a million dollars from that 1 stream where he promised every customer would receive a shirt personally signed by him and the rest of the crew. Unfortunately for him, his employee is caught falsifying his signature, then looks around with a guilty face while trying to cover the pen with his hand, while the guy next to him lits up his eyes and gives a "I think we got caught look", it doesn't matter if Jimmy "consented", he lied to everyone about the signatures being his. I don't know why anyone would use that argument unless it was used as a loophole in court. No one on their right mind would think scamming kids with falsified signatures is ok, soggy is delusional.
Pandemic interview: In his interview with one of the supposedly contestants meant to be on an abandoned video idea was supposedly given a split of a million dollars amongst the 24 other contestants out of the good heart of Jimmy? Like are you fucking serious? Jimmy is going through allegations for crypto scams, not paying hospitals, and illegal lotteries and now he's a fucking saint handing out tens of thousands of dollars for free. Great.
Investigation results: If you don't believe that soggy is a dishonest paid actor by now, he claims all of his arguments to align with the investigation led by a firm hired by Mrbeast himself, the letter is on twitter as of November 1st. The investigation was months long resulting in 2 very short, vague pages. It states: "As you are well aware, the Company has grown exceedingly quickly from a Youtube start-up compromised of a group of talented young individuals to a much larger entity. It is not uncommon that policies and practices essential in a mature company would lag behind commercial success." What is not common is for a law firm to excuse a licensed company from not following the law. Any licensed company is liable for knowing what is legal or not, it's absolutely inexcusable. The letter downplays the severity of the issue despite the changes being: Hire New Chief Executive Officer, Chief People Officer, General Counsel, and Chief Financial Officer. This is a complete wiping of HR.
In the end people like soggy make these kinds of videos for the same reason as dogpack and any other youtuber, it brings them clout and money. It just happens that shitting on MrBeast is a bit saturated and there is undiscovered opportunity on defending him. It would be hard for me to believe soggy is not a paid individual given the terrible arguments he comes up with and how mocking his tone is.
It really took you guy this long to figure this shit out lmao. You can look up to famous people, see them as inspiration if you want. But trusting their word, believing anything they say is stupid. Idolizing them as a bigger than the world, that they can do no wrong.
@@g_ggle-sect. honestly, for me, the situation got so big and there is so much fucking information on this that I just don't even wanna bother. Fuck mrBeast, apparently the other guy is not great too, I don't know almost anything about that, I dunno. It's just too much and I kinda don't care anymore
So now when this video comes out saying everything I've believed in since the beginning but you guys just couldn't understand, suddenly now nobody wants to believe in EITHER side and if you pick either side you suddenly "treat everyone as your idol"? Bro... So you actually don't want to base anything on logic and facts just placate and follow the public narrative with no understanding for anything. Ok then. Just be an idiot then.
Well i think that that soggy is literally hired by mr beast to make this video, he's trying to neutralized the drama through someone else instead of addressing it directly. It's a win win situation for both soggy and mrbeast. Soggy gets all the views and money from the ungodly amount of ads that he put in it while trying to put mrbeast on the safe end even though he is guilty if majority of the stuff that dogpack mentioned.
@@J-BIRD000 I appreciate the kind words, it means a lot. I noticed in your prior comment, that you're very humble, and able to see how you are affected by the same issue. Which I agree with your sentiment, I believe we all are, it's just who and what we adopt an unhealthy parasocial relationship with. Which I know about unhealthy parasocial relationships VERY well, because of my Borderline personality, I have super unhealthy parasocial relationships with people.
@@keatonwastaken great point, there needs to be nuance, if we don't trust anyone we begin to isolate ourselves mentally and fall into a sort of solipsism/dissociation. It's important to find a set of rules/tools that helps us decide who to trust, and we should always take into account if they might have underlying reasons, like biases, revenge, etc. along with just having the general wherewithall to only speak on topics we've spent time learning about, and are passionate about, instead of letting others to do the work for us. And always listen for loaded language, we shouldn't make it about trust, rather instead actually look stuff up and learn
Yea I mean soggy is pretty hypocritical as well like criticizing that Jake only says that it’s ai afterwards tho soggy fakes the fbi part and he also took a clip from someone’s video presumably without their consent just like dogpack did which he took wrongly.
@@tanvirsourav83exactly, plus people shouldn't just be watching 2 opposing sides, they should research and look at ALL evidence and statements. But I blame this opposing sides issues as a consequence of American media and political system, along with the power it has on defining people's worldview. In a world where the most famous forms of media uses divisionist, us vs them, good vs evil mindset, along with 2 partyism, it leads consequentially to people unable to not put things through the same exact framework their entire lives encompass. That's why people started saying "SunnyV2 was right all along about Ava," despite SunnyV2 never going for the very public Red flags that ACTUALLY suggests Ava being an issue, instead he just used moralistic language surrounding his Anti-SJW anti woke worldview
People often tie their morality to their favorite creators, and also develop intense and unhealthy parasocial relationships with said creators. It's sad, and I think a symptom to a larger epidemic at play
Great video Soggy, but I just have some questions/points about your video. 1. The No Safety debunking; In your video, you talk about how Mrbeast's video productions were safe, and they took precautions. While this remains true for his videos, the same cannot be said about Beast Games. I feel like completely overlooking Beast Games was a major oversite, and this is where I think most of the unsafe allegations have been coming from. 2. The Feastables v. Hershey's stuff; In your video, you also talk about how feastables is still healthier than hershey's, but in my opinion, this isn't what most people have been mad at. The allegation was never "its unhealthier than hershay's", It was "You advertised it as healthy, but then switched it all up, not mentioning the downgrade is healthiness. In my eyes, this is where my gripes with feastables stems from, so yeah. 3. The allegations you chose to debunk; When pausing on the allegation board at the end of the video, I noticed that the things you chose were (in my opinion) not the main points. I feel like time was wasted on things like "Fake moon scam" and "Chandler illegally entered the competition" etc. I think by using these in your visual board, you are making your audience think that you debunked soooo much, but you really only went through 35-40% of the concerning allegations. Its about the quality, not the quantity of the allegations you debunk, as the bigger one you break, the more people you bring to your side. What and how you chose to present your information makes it seem like more was done, when you really mainly touched the tip of the iceberg. Anyway, thats my 2 cents, feel free to correct me of speak your mind. 👍
should also mention, if dogpack was willing to blatantly lie about all this stuff, it should throw his credibility out of the window. even if some of his accusations were true (which they barely were, if at all). he framed many things as being worse as they were, as well as, again, blatantly lying.
op seems to be trying to defend him but it doesn’t work when hes now been shown to have a repeated history of lying. he shouldn’t be trusted whatsoever
@@chandrasinha1010 Like yeah great dude. I appreciate that you didn't just decided to agree with everything the video said just like almost everyone else here. I appreciate that you decided to point out that even though Dogpack isn't a good person,portraying him as his portrayal here isn't the truth. Ironically speaking,Soggy himself did the very thing he called Dogpack out for.
@@pizzaman1720 basically, Soggy waffled on and on about very minor allegations like "Chandler's cousin enters contest illegally" while completely dodging the bigger allegations like Beast Games to make it look like he done more work than he ACTUALLY did
@@pizzaman1720 You're seriously telling me you care enough to want to know what he said but not enough to read his words? It's 45 seconds of reading max you cannot be this cooked.
To be fair, he does point out that he doesn't cover/isn't knowledgeable to cover everything at the end of the video and refers to other youtubers who have covered other topics, but I agree that there are definitely so many more allegations to investigate.
The no-safety procedure is safely ensured for Jimmy Donaldson's video simply because he is the boss of the show, he runs it with all control. In the beast game on the other hand Jimmy stands as a statue to attract people and plan out ideas that MUST run through Amazon approval to maintain the required funding, Jimmy to Amazon is a toddler that is only on their list of partnerships because he was keeping an average viewership of 100M which is enticing for Amazon. What can be seen from this is that MrBeast is only the partner of the show yet all the blame is on him but the production team, human safety, and all other teams are Amazon employees whose numbers outright went over Jimmy's employees numbers by number fold.
While it is true MrBeast is also at fault, putting him 100% as the only reason is downright not true, the game show is an Amazon Prime Show, not a Mr. Beast Youtube video, he is merely a partner for a game show.
Secondly, Feastable was advertised as Healthier than Hershey, even in the Dogpack404 video he said the campaign was meant for Feastable to be a healthier alternative to Hershey's bar. Does it mean it's healthy? No, of course, it's chocolate, a sweet snack, and it takes a 10-year-old to know it's not healthy. Healthier than trash doesn't make it not trash. Nevertheless, this video was meant to "debunk" the Dogpack video not to "defend" MrBeast, the point dogpack made was that Feastable was not healthier than Hershey which was proven wrong so it conclude the point.
And finally, you can't judge allegations on whether or not it is serious more than each other, since more or less it has affected someone's life intentionally or not. Jimmy is a bad person for sure, but that doesn't make it justifiable to throw around lies of any sort that are on a defamation level.
Like for example: I made a lie about 2 people, one took his life and one brushed it off does that mean one was more serious? No. Defamation on some level can be as dangerous as murder, especially for someone with a higher social status.
@@ThaPinkGuy Except Soggy also re-writes the narrative to make Mr. Beast look better. Jake the Viking, Delaware's son in law, confirmed months ago that Beast knew Delaware was a RSO before hiring him.
Okay yeah I agree, even if not everything is true, there was a ton of things going on with the Mr beasts games plus overall, is a scum that guy to work with a Paul brother so, fuck dog pack for wasting the past few months and fuck Mr beast for tryna make us think their content and products are good
Unfortunately, this is because Soggy is trying to manipulate you in the exact way he claims Dogpack was trying to manipulate you. He cherry-picked those allegations to make it look like he disproved everything Dogpack said. Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
I mean hes kinda right? Hes still a scammer with the crypto thing and kris disgusting behaviour but that doesnt give you the right to just make up lie about him just to be popular like a certain fraud (dogpack) did
You know, this could be so easily avoided if MrBeast just RESPONDS. Even though he might be guilty for some accusations, him staying silent and covering it all up makes it looks guilty for ALL accusations.
He did respond. This is his response. He hired a crisis management team, and that team hired Soggy to make a lame debunk video. That's why he has info no one else could get, because it was obtained directly from Mr Beast.
@@shadowed69let's use our brains for a second, the stupidity of thinking mrbeast would reach out to soggy out of anyone he could reach out to with bigger followings is stupid, the reason he got these recordings is because he worked hard reaching out to people to get them, and even if mrbeast paid soggy the evidence for some of these claims still stands, mrbeast still isn't as terrible as people say
No. If you've been on the Internet for a while, you'll know that is probably the worst thing he could do, because the court of social media has already deemed him guilty. Him letting stuff die down a lil before properly talking about it or even just avoiding it altogether is way better, especially since dogpack isn't even credible with the amount of lies and exaggerations he's had
@shadowed69 This is the first time anyone actually reached out to them and didn't just use "trust me" anonymous sources which don't work if you aren't credible.
You believing the word of the guy who never actually told them of the guy's history until much later when the person actually was kicked.
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. This is their response, hidden under the guise of "ripping into both Dogpack and Mr. Beast", even though he avoids or manipulates all the serious claims against Mr. Beast. Why do you think this is the first time we are seeing current Mr. Beast employees interviewed? Why do you think Mr. Beast is pushing creators to watch this video? Where do you think this Dogpack termination recording suddenly came from despite the fact that it would have been way smarter to release it when Dogpack first started his accusations? Assuming ya know, the recording in this vid isn't AI generated...
Also, soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@reaperz5677hiring an external company to investigate typically is a very honest way of doing it, that company is essentially staking there own reputation on not finding anything
He’s just letting these morons like dogpack and Rosanna dig their graves deeper and deeper. It’s the same reason that the feds don’t just bust the low level street dealer. They follow them, see who they communicate with, allow them to get an entire picture of the conspiracy and then take them down with extreme prejudice. I guarantee you that sometime in the not so distant future there will be a statement from Jimmys company. That statement will be accompanied by a slew of lawsuits and criminal charges against everyone that Dawson dragged into this and tricked into committing multiple felonies.
there are many allegations which mr beast is infact guilty of. i strongly believe that these sort of videos, like the one soggy cereal made, will just explode in number which selectively use a few facts to discredit dogpack WHILE this happens, mr beast will most likely get away with the initial allegations which WERE INFACT TRUE.
i feel there will be involvement of mr beast's PR team in the sudden increase of these sorts of videos which will try to discredit dogpack and cloud all over the actual shady and illegal stuff mr beast did.
@@reaperz5677 YouTube deleted my previous comment for some reason. I was saying that an external investigation CAN happen if an employee or any victim of the company reports , but Idk if that will happen.
@@reaperz5677 I do hope some external company does an investigation but I doubt that'll happen , unless someone from the inside reports the company or one of the alleged victims .
@@YeeHeee He just did a major investigation and concluded that everyone in his company is not guilty of anything.
Like I'm sorry but if you think MrBeast is going to investigate his own corporation honestly is just... naive. Him saying something would at least put pressure on him to be more honest with any/all "internal investigations".
There’s legal action being taken over a bit of this as I recall, the reason he’s not spoken about anything is because he’s literally been advised not to
Honestly, I think it's kinda smart. They come out with a new accusation every week. He should wait until the dust has settled so he can address everything and not make a new video/post defending himself every week.
Plus his views are still fine and so is his monetization- he's doing just fine riding this controversy out.
Ya know Mr.Beast is a big company, right? His response will take time as they have to look through every hole in the company to determine if the company is guilty or not .
@@canislupus3655 He said this in interview with Chud logic (6:27:45). According to him Dustin (employee of Mr.Beast) paid to him to make the inteviews. There is a clear conflict of interest. Soggy is also speaks in bad faith in my opinion on this video. He is taking everything that Mr.Beast employees say in a face value, when ther lifelyhood is on stake. How crazy would they be speak about shady businesses if Mr.beast.
Imagine if mrbeast,dogpack404 and soggy cereal were just working towards a mrbeast video of 'I tried to expose and unexpose myself to see the chaos on the internet' 💀
That was my initial coping thought, wondering if by the end, MrBeast posts a rewind video and confirms that everyone was working together. But, coping is still coping.
@@Urani_um Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Who is good, there is a reason why they calls out human, Like my French Friend always say “he is not a saint” just because he is a YouTuber doesn’t mean he is perfect, he is human and human make mistakes every day, there are some mistakes that he shouldn’t make but that doesn’t mean I would unsubscribe to him because of a product he is selling especially when he have team that makes these stuff not him, also he did not text a 12 years old, his friend did not him, so give me a reason why you think he is a bad person.
@@pogggaming4470what should we do? NO What should you do? YES
It appears you are waiting for the public to make a generally accepted opinion and jump to that train. My recommendation is that you ponder and think for yourself and come with your own conclusions yon how to proceed next and what to think about these people
@@Biggesthaterof2024I’m not? I legit voiced my opinion. I said no one’s is good in this case, feel like your just starting stuff to start stuff but hey, that’s just me i guess
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible. Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@thetacticalguy62 most journalists don't have so called integrity cause they are people at the end of the day everyone has shortcomings some more than others
@pogggaming4470 I guess him. Lol. Nonsense. It's all for engagement. He makes a video. We watch. It goes viral on twitter. He tweets more abiut it and gets engagement futher boosting it and in the end twitter pays him even though the youtube vid is monetized or not.
@@berkekadircelik6282while you are true, Jimmy is mostly a victim of hate. And I really feel bad for him. Packdog tho, nah let YouTube delete his channel for lying this damn much for three months
@@lovingyou9921 Soggy made a point that just doesn’t make sense in my opinion. when he’s interviewing the ex/present MrBeast employees, I feel like that isn’t trustworthy. Of course his extra employees are going to keep themselves financially safe, we have no idea if they are telling the truth nor are they forced to.
@@johngulster7787Yeah, but my point still stands, anyone can get things wrong, there are a few points that don’t resonate with me in the video, but I still think it’s a good and important video to have up
@@pogggaming4470can I ask if you're an American? I am one, and I tend to notice many of us are unable to imagine that both sides can be wrong, which is a consequence of our voting system.
@@pogggaming4470apply some nuance, it's not some scale where you pick mr beast or dogpack over. You can reconcile that both of them are bad, and that we should be more cautious of blindly trusting what we're shown, and instead look for the real answer and think for yourself.
@@titanusgodzillaa4274 Not really. Mr. Beast somewhat encouraged Kris Tyson's behavior and promoted gambling to children through his candy bars. Dogpack is a bad person but Mr. Beast is a CEO who does fake charities and a bunch of other shady business stuff for money. Just watch Coffeezilla's video.
All accusations by dogpack against Mr Beast are disproven. The lawsuit is a joke. The crypto trading is suspicious but not proven. Your conclusion: Mr Beast is BAD
@@titanusgodzillaa4274you know i would call the person who uses child and slave labor in their chocolate company worse (feastables) but to each their own i suppose
I say we go for the millionaire who can act out on his plans before we go for some random guy with Internet access. They're both bad people, but taking out the most powerful one is the better option.
@@berkekadircelik6282 in this life there's no such thing as good or bad people per-se, just people making decisions that have consequences, on themselves and on OTHERS, whether are good or bad...
@@pogggaming4470no. No one’s good in this case. Not even soggy tbh. None of the people here are journalistic nor have to have the integrity of one. This is a double edged sword- no a triple edged sword
@@pogggaming4470 it’s impossible to truly be good in this world, everyone messes up, but dogpack is very purposefully lying against MrBeast because he’s salty for being fired
I'll believe the heavily corroborated claims from dozens of former employees over a clear crisis management video paid for by the guy losing his child exploitation empire.
@@droketheroper This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@Polyeurythane Soggy confirmed that an MB employee named Dustin paid for airfare because Soggy couldn't afford it. The video literally wouldn't exist without Beast funding.
We really need to mind the fact that some third party youtuber flew overseas and conveniently asked all the right questions, then Jimmy popped his head in to say thanks.
@Juan_Wacko he got a lot wrong in this video, Pegasus just confirmed that by talking to Jimmy himself. So don't believe every Youtuber slandering another.
@@igornesic6882 you are F'ing slow, Mr beast knowing about Kris means he supported a Chomo tf you mean, that's a wild point of view 🤣 him knowing is bad you Labotomite 🤣
im pretty sure he knows, he said it at the start of the video. He doesnt trust mrbeast and he thinks some allegations are true. Hes just adressing the ones that arent true, he is in no way defending mr beast.
@@TheTrueBlueOne well beast games is a pretty background scene with barely any information (just like his crypto fraud) so he probably just couldn't cover that situation.
and about the discord messages, he did tick the "Chris" being a degenerate.
I don't agree with the Weddle thing. It was obviously not a warcrime but its still messed up to what they did to him. To boil it down to whether it is a warcrime or not is a bit disingenuous.
@@markrubern9206 original commenter felt soggy focusing on the terminology around "war crime" was disingenuous to what weddle went through.
my comment went into how that wasn't the case because to use hyperbole (amplified language) in the way the original story was presented, and with how dogpack then decided to add context to drive the point home, was a manipulative tactic on dogpacks' part to illicit a reaction from the audience. when in reality, his experience was nothing akin to a warcrime or an assault victim (as weddle had also likened himself to an sa victim who's story isn't taken seriously). was it harmful to weddle? yes. did it do an absolute number on his mental health? yes. but if you look into war crimes and the absolute brutality of it, those who have suffered from it would choose weddle's experience over it 9 times out of 10. it makes those experiences of heinous acts, seem on the same level when they're nowhere close to equal.
that's not to diminish weddle's experience though. soggy, as well as weddle's friend, reiterated that what weddle went through was bad and not good on him - thus acknowledging his experience - without adding exaggerated language to make it far worst.
aka - the shit he endured was bad on him, but it was not in equal measures to a war crime and the focus on that during dogpacks' video was meant to capitalize on the audience's emotions.
@@macnkeebs hi im sorry if this question might be dumb..but when you say, "that's not what he did tho" you are referring to the creator of this video, Soggy cereal?
He accepted the challenge when he was obviously not in a good mental state. Even in the dogpack video, he came off extremely mentally unwell. Going off on tangents about how sad he is and how messed up his life is. No offense, but no one cared. That wasnt the point of the video.
@@sagking5282 everyone has their price, but you never really know what you're willing to endure until you're in that position. imagine being put in a room of solitary confinement without any real human interaction after the worst day of your life in recent memory? do you think 10k would be enough to be under a microscope? 100k? 200k? we can all say "psh, i'd do that for 1k! who are you kidding? in this economy?!" and maybe we'd do just fine, but studies already show that solitary confinement over prolonged periods does a number on one's mental health - and that's on a sound, healthy person. imagine when you're not in the best frame of mind and having to do so. add to it power dynamics and a slew of other thought processes and lack of actual, productive sleep? it's a lot.
@@naganut9718 no problem! i get where the commenter was coming from. it's very easy to feel someone is dismissive of an experience when being nitpicky due to word usage, and had the entire time been spent trying to completely minimize the harm that time did on weddle, i would be more prone to agree that it was disingenuous. i think soggy handled it well by not only speaking of the true atrocities behind that word, but also including the footage towards the end from weddle's friend to reiterate that he went through hell and everyone could tell and that the experience was not good for him or handled in the best way.
he has a friend that, despite themself feeling a bit tossed in the fray of this, still wanted to make sure people knew that the man went through hell and continues to do so due to audience hate and outrage. and a lot of that should land on dogpack's shoulder for how he poorly mishandled this rather than someone who never truly recovered from that time and is simply doing what he believes is right for him.
that's... not what he did though? language matters in this world, especially given how literal people take things now and how nuance is lost, and likening the harm done to a war crime and assault is making less of true war crimes. he acknowledged, just like his friends and colleagues, that what weddle went through did an absolute number on him and that there's no denying that. it's the use of the word to illicit a very particular image and emotion from the audience, that's considered manipulative and hyperbole.
I think the reason everyone believed dogpack was because he said he worked for Mrbeast and it was during the Kris Tyson drama. This still doesn’t mean Mrbeast is a good person. A villain can fight a villain but that doesn’t mean one of them is a hero or good person
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@kingfwoggerthe point of the video was to fact check all the claims made, not to just disprove them. 2 and a half of dogpack's claims turned out to be true, everything else was false.
@@Maciej_Płóciennik There are a lot of burner accounts on the internet that get created recently and the first thing they say is allegations against someone popular
Also another thing that enabled Dogpack to say such accusations, was because Mr.beast didn't respond as soon as the allegations were made. He still hasn't really responded for some reason. I feel like these accusations wouldn't have gone too far if MrBeast had debunked the first video as soon as it dropped
Also the dude created his channel like 3 days after the drama started,I don’t know why NO-ONE has pointed that out. It’s like people that cheat in games and how they create new accounts all the time. He was money hungry.
@@Lacewise update: Soggy has confirmed on Twitter that MrBeast’s comment has NOT been deleted, but has been heavily suppressed by the sheer amount of dislikes, so that’s my bad for misleading
I think one is actually because his lawyers frantically texted him to delete it since this is supposed to be an independent, both sides video (very common for media spin).
ngl people have already started poking holes in this video already
1. Why did MrBeast comment "Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol" and then quickly deleting it?
2. Why did MrBeast start mass forwarding this video to EVERY big commentary creator on YouTube and TikTok, begging for attention?
3. Soggy received full air travel coverage from a MrBeast affiliate to fly over to the US to conduct the interviews.
4. How did Soggy get access to all these Beast employees and especially the "leaked" DogPack audio files, when Coffeezilla couldn't get a single contact from MB?
5. Soggy has already seen what Jimmy has done in point 2 and has expressed disappointment that Jimmy has essentially turned this video into MB propaganda and a "get out of jail free card"
Tbh that’s what im saying it kinda gives payed off even if what he said is all true and dogpack is horrible the Jake Weddle stuff is just wrong. I feel like using our knowledge of the Slop Content video and how he just randomly decided to hate on Pegasus when he thought they were friends makes me think he is also doing this from a grudge or is payed off.
Dogpacks videos were recommended to me a couple types even though I don't really watch Mr. Beast content. Don't engage in anecdotal fallacy, actually address the arguments.
besides all the allegations and debunking, i will stand with my point forever that mrbeast's adhd editing is unenjoyable and a huge departure from what made his content fun to begin with
@WhyThoOz The last thing I'm saying is, I'm not saying that dogpack is right and that mrbeast is guilty. If anything dogpack appears the least trustworthy out of the 3 but as confusing as that sounds, I'm still on his side the most. Because I personally think mrbeast is really dodgy and has suspicious things going on, so I still as much as it sounds biased still personally believe that there's a chance that there are some allegations of mrbeast that are possibly still true or that haven't been covered. And yes, for now I'm like I said, still going to wait some time before trusting soggy.
@WhyThoOz you obviously like others probably don't understand me, but the way I think of it is, soggy from what I heard was paid by mrbeast, so there's a chance that some of what soggy used to disprove dogpack COULDVE been... smartly planned by mrbeast like soggy is more of a good lawyer than an impartial, fair one. Also, hot take, but there's a chance the employees had scripted statements to make dogpack look worse, plus that guy who said he got "financially" ruined, seemed unemotional or ingenuine when saying that. I know how many disagree with me and I'm aware that it's a "bad take" but this is my opinion and I'm not trying to be a free thinker.
@WhyThoOz Don't want to seem like a pedantic free thinker, but I'm still sticking to being uncertain about if soggy is being biased or impartial. That's just my opinion, you can disagree, but I'm not changing my opinion.
@@Omnilosopher it doesn't matter if the video was planned or not what matters is if he's GUILTY or not. Mrbeast has the right to defend himself, especially if the things said about him have been taken either out of context or just flat out lies. Mrbeast has done things, but from what I'm seeing and hearing, the things mrbeast did weren't even all that bad and dogpack exaggerated to get that bag and his get back for getting fired
@@trollman5457 I know but even though I'm neutral, this video wasn't made randomly, it was planned through a discussion between soggy and mbreast from what I heard, so there's a chance that some things he said are biased. Him saying "Mrbeast isn't innocent or above criticism" isn't enough for me to just suddenly jump to his side, sorry.
Also dogpack still hasn't responded to soggy yet, but honestly from the looks of it, I feel like dogpack might just have a pretentious "it was alleged" response
Same and to be honest, I was initially on dogpacks side, from the start, because I've always thought of mrbeast as having no personality and when in the videos, its just the way he acts, he seems almost sociopathic, just no emotion at all. But as much as I'll never agree that he deserves his popularity and that he seems sociopathic, I remain neutral but for now I would definitely say that out of the three I'm most on dogpacks side because soggy cereal was likely paid by mrbeast so for now I remain neutral on the debunked dogpack claims, since there's still a possibility that this might be debunked.
@@nikokillam7553 Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
@@zarc1145 this video DEFINITELY reduces what was being said in dogpacks videos by a LOT bru it's like him calling the MCU venom a villain when he's just a anti-hero
@shadowed69 He's not, you believing the word of the guy who never actually told them of the guy's history until much later when the person actually was kicked.
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@thanhhungvo2649 me when the hour long video confirms that he did an illegal lottery but i try to sweet for mr beast and pretend other people are lying
@@NitroMelonthis video isn't really all that though while yes dogpack clearly isn't good this video doesn't mention any of the real problems mr beast has while debunking the minor problems making the mr beast seem good while he's not
Shocker. Not like many others in the commentary community didn't tell you dogshit had a axe to grind and everyone response. Oh your on beast payroll. Just like rosanna hands aren't clean in this
@@Morsellayes some of his claims are indeed correct (of which are pretty few and far in between), but at best he's mixed it in with his lies and now all he's done is muddie the waters and confuse everyone. And at worst, literally what the video is about.
Which says nothing, though. A disgruntled employee could be an asshole who wants revenge on good people or a guy disillusioned by the real face of someone who he once admired.
The allegations aren’t true. So MrBeast isn’t as bad as dogpack was saying. But so what? He’s still a largely vapid guy who uses people in need to make a profit on YouTube. He’s still the biggest reason why people see YouTube as a way to get rich instead of a way to make content that you love to make and can share with the world. He still uses clickbait titles and thumbnails and has spawned like a billion over saturated loud annoying copycat channels that plague YouTube. And he still sells his audience shit that is pricey and bad for their health, and uses his YouTube following to sell. I still don’t like him. Never did.
You are correct and I hate the black and white mentality some people have where at least one person must be in the right. Just because one person is a POS doesn't automatically absolve their opponent of being free of that label. They can both be trash
@@GhostShurikenthey just milking yall and yall are falling for it. KSI literally got into the billboard hot 100 because yall didn't realise this is just for marketing and KSI is the one laughing in the end. Even DanTDM saw this, why do you think he not replying or anything anymore😭
Ya dog pack is a shitty person but that dosnt excuse all the stuff that he’s done and is coming out still of things he’s done Mr beast is a terrible person and dogpack is too
@@venity7165 to elaborate for db, mr beast did a crypto scam thing that i still know very little how it works but coffee did a video on it and found that jimmy is legally grey at its most clear. if you know more about crypto then me i highly recommend you watch coffee's vid. he's research is just as sound as soggy's and hes been covering logan pauls crypto issues for the past year now 👍
@ Soggy did more than just google tho, He flew to the US to conduct interviews and did some online as well as some research. He did a good amount of work
@@AshZy33 fr fr I feel like the video is kinda manipulative in a way by mostly showing the really easy to debunk allegations and when I mean really easy to debunk allegations soggy literally just googled and used the way back machine. Some people on Twitter already called out dogpack for most of these things before the creation of this video the only thing that is new to take away from this is the interaction and interview of the Mr. Beast employees.
@@leontriestoart thanks for replying in my stead, I didn’t notice this comment thread until someone @ me, the dude compared soggy to doggy and called them accusations lol , over 90% of the video is soggy showing evidence, while doggy’s showcases were allegations. How are both the same ?once again , did he watch the video, why not take a point from the video and try debunking it .Blud makes a vague ass comment understandable to simplistic minds and gets the ratio W ,clearly shows there’s a lot of doggy’s glazers in this thread .
Truth? He’s disproving someone’s allegations with proof. He isn’t really making any real statements just disproving someones false narratives and claims with facts and evidence.
I’ve watched both videos, and I still believe a lot of dog packs evidence still stands. And a lot of his allegations were disproven. Did Mr beast hire a certified pedo? Yes. Did Mr beats do it on purpose? Hell no. Did Mr beast do child gambling? Sorta… but technically no.
Welcome to internet drama, where people are way too passionate about "He said,she said". Because nobody understands that if things gets immoral/ illegal, it has to be inspected by multiple teams, and brought to authorities/ court (Not US court, dear god) instead of petty internet drama and "journalism" that rivals BBC in terms of bullshit. But even i am spewing bullshit right now :
Truth is, you don't actually know if he flew people, you don't know if Dogpack worked there before, you don't know if MrBeast actually knew about Chris, because you weren't there. Video aren't live, they are biased, and you can delete anything that doesn't follow your wanted narrative. But that doesn't even matter anymore as everything can be faked, so any proof can be disproven with enough money, and most crimes don't have live recordings anyways. So it truly shouldn't matter to us as long as no one admits anything.
@@SomeNoobHydra I see no point in arguing to and fro. I just said I'm neutral and soggy is using the same coherent method, mrbeast and dogpack use. One side needs to stop thinking that mrbeast is a sinless saint and the other as a supervillain. Anyone that wants to expand his trademark will always have to do undesired dark decisions
@@SomeNoobHydra I see no point in arguing to and fro. I just said I'm neutral and soggy is using a coherent method to manipulate, just like how mrbeast and dogpack does. One side needs to stop thinking that mrbeast is a sinless saint and the other as the antichrist. Anyone that wants to expand his trademark will always have to do undesired dark decisions
@@Pen_is_landbro do you not know what “allegedly” means? It means the thing has no proof to back it up. Is that so hard to understand? Because it’s literally an allegation
@@Pen_is_land "It's just two random parties throwing accusations over each other, and calling the other's party fraudulent" You just described the whole USA
@@leontriestoart yeah the internet is pretty wack, people will ratio you not becuse you defended mr beast ( you didn't) but because you are going up against what the popular opinion. you've clearly watch the video or ( like me ) autisticly followed this drama for the last 4 months and realised that dogpack is shaddy.
once again to re elaborate to the penhead guy, jimmy ain't a saint nor is dog pack, but undoubtably dog pack is not only misrepresenting the arguments/allegations that jimmy should address thus actively hurting any case of retribution but also hurting people's lives and careers in the process. Mind you he literally is a disgruntled employee aimed to damage anything mr beast/ the coo guy more specifically
@pheonix2700 ... Yeah that's dogpack not soggy lmao Literally the only time soggy says allegedly is as a joke or when he's referring to a false accusation dogpack made (and he's about to disprove)
@@leontriestoart Watch him go on to talk about things that are not confirmed and then go "he said allegedly to this thing that has no solid proof on it hes the 1million dollar lawyer"
@Pen_is_land ok. Please give examples of soggy saying "allegedly" to something that has been proven to be true, with timestamps. I'm so confused about what you're even talking about right now.
@@leontriestoart don't forget to add the word "allegedly" everytime he says Jimmy's a bad person, then never confirms it. I'm not supporting either side, but I'm pointing out that soggy is clearly supporting him and he's using twisted words to do so.
@@Pen_is_land the point of the video is to point out that DOGPACK is a liar, not to say that Mr beast is a good person. He literally directs the viewers to another credible video that discusses allegations against Mr beast
@@Pen_is_land you dummy. The point of the video is to point out dogpack's lies, not support Mr beast. He CONSTANTLY tells us that he doesn't think Mr beast is a good person and you still couldn't get that through your head. He even directs us to a video by coffeezilla that actually has a lot of serious allegations
@@Pen_is_land "only dared to confirm because Mr beast condemned tyson" What Do you think he's afraid of Mr beast or supporting him He literally accused mr beast and calls him a bad person throughout the video
"only dared to because Mrbeast condemned Tyson" Wtf do you mean by this Do you think he's afraid of Mr beast He himself makes some accusations against Mr beast and paints him as a bad person Are you stupid?
@@Pen_is_land here are some disproven accusations that should be easy for you to comprehend, all of which had substantial well researched proof. Illegal lottery #1 (no purchase necessary was included in description) Illegal lottery #2 (same deal) Rigged videos (outliers, where contestants were temporarily removed or compensated for due to LIFE THREATENING circumstances. Showed proof by interviewing other employees, watching the actual videos, and finding video proof) James Warren DV claims (dogpack literally admitted he was wrong and took forever to delete the video)
@@leontriestoart The only thing he "confirmed" was calling out Chris Tyson, and he only dared to confirm that because mrbeast condemned Tyson. He deviated all narrative away from mrbeast.
@@Pen_is_landYou're on a whole other level of stupid. Soggy literally said he wasn’t sure when it was true or false, with real evidence you can search for yourself, while Dogpack just yaps, saying "allegedly" in front of every sentence.
@@leontriestoart He didn't "confirm" anything that was directed towards mrbeast. the only thing he confirmed was Ava Chris Tyson is a degen. He only dared to confirm that because mrbeast himself condemned it.
@@Pen_is_landdid you watch the video? He says something is confirmed when he actually proves it by doing an insane amount of research. I mean he literally flew to find people to interview
@@xeralt2914 yes, again, soggy cereal clearly twisting words and using the same techniques mrbeast and dogpack is using. He is supporting mrbeast by saying "allegedly" when talking about mrbeast and "confirmed" when talking about dogpack. Neither side is flowers and sunshine
It’s wild to me how people can’t understand that two people can be bad, and that just because someone IS bad doesn’t mean everything about them is true. People will always jump on the “I always knew this happened once!” When someone is found out to have done something bad that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t both be shown as liars. I’m so confused by the amount of comments that seem convinced your on MrBeasts side when you made it very clear multiple times you didn’t agree with MeBeast only that these specific allegations were false
@ How exactly does it hurt any victims? Soggy only tries to call out DogPack’s bs (whether he’s right or wrong here and there himself is a different question), he doesn’t defend Beast or pretend that Beast is a good person with an amazing company just because DogPack is shady himself. One of the biggest problems is that too many people believe everything that DogPack says without using their own brains or trying to research the situation properly.
People are mad, because it is a video that did not needed to be made. It takes away credibility from victims and solidifies the standing of the culprit. This is not about Dogpack. This never was about Dogpack. It's about the people that were wronged in total. It's about the ill-mannered practices the company has. It's about making fun of raping women, incel child predator behavior, selling crap to children, promoting crypto schemes, ruining people's lives for own gains. It does not matter what Dogpack did. It does not undo the things Mr Beast is responsible for. This only hurts victims!
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
Given the evidence in this video, how is MrBeast a bad person? Selling products, wanting to be the most famous in your line of work, charities, and investing. None of those things are inherently bad. And the worst he could be accused of at this point is mild negligence and ignorance.
A lot of people never question why a story is being told to them and whether there was any motivation to embellish it. "The best lies contain within them nuggets of truth" - george rr martin or maybe im14andthisisdeep idk
@@sharpnesscreeper1512 think about this. if mrbeast lawyler told him not to talk about this stuff, WHY would mrbeast be ok if his employees talk about it??
mrbeast have lawyer and they told them not to say anything about the case as it could be used against them. also imo it's because regardless what they do, people opinion already set as people already took face value all dogpack accusations. they had close to 0 chance to prove the otherwise. remember people would (they already did before) say "i investigate myself and find nothing wrong". so, 3rd party "investigator" would have better chance at expose both which imo "i i fall, you come with me situaion", so dogpack in the end apparently not the hero, it just another salty scumbag exposes other scumbag
So you are telling me that Mr Beast and his employees did not respond to most accusation directly, even when coming from Coffeezilla but they happily slid into your dms to set the record straight? Don't you find it at least a bit suspicious?
@@cosmicskydragon333 it's not strange though. they find this 1h30min video suspicious and only express disagreement on the points made. the other 2 comments on Soggy Cereal besides the 4 in this thread are supportive/uncritical replies to comments that think that this video is mrbeast propaganda. i'm assuming you saw a comment of his on DogPack404 that's critical of DogPack404? if so, it's strange that they didn't express any kind of agreement to this video that is rightfully very critical of him
@@EJandEmmanGonzales It's strange how you know they aren't holding dogpack to this standard. Did you check Dogpack's videos? Maybe this dude left comments applying the same to dogpack?
Because these are things they were involved with. What does Dustin or anyone have to do with crypto? That'd have to be brought up with Jimmy and his fund, not the hiring manager or a guy from ideation or the chef or whatever. They are not involved w/ the financials they just work there
it's strange how you're not holding dogpack to this standard. an overwhelming majority of his accusations aren't well-founded, he has admitted to providing false information, and his baseless accusations damaged normal people who didn't deserve it. yet after watching this video you'd rather: speculate about mrbeast's affiliation to the video creator to accuse him of being too biased (as he criticizes mrbeast/promotes coffeezilla's video btw), assume Dustin is lying and assume Delaware's brother-in-law is telling the truth (The brother-in-law knew about Delaware's charges during his time at mrbeast, btw, and didn't bring them into attention), assume that Jimmy's mother did background checks and knowingly hired a RSO, and ignore the fact that Jake Weddle had an option to leave at any moment during the challenge and was offered $190k as compensation from Jimmy himself
What's suspicious about it? They have many lawsuits going around, both internally and externally, so they need to be extremely careful about what they say publicly and so it's difficult for them to make public statements. Third-party journalism is the most effective way to make these kind of statements for them, directly responding with their own experience and the evidence that they know to be true instead of making blanket statements to try and prove their innocence on their own.
I think that you are twisting what Jake said about the joke turning up not to be the joke. Dustin jokes about the whole situation being really awful, it doesn't change the fact that for Jake the situation was traumatic. Both can be true at the same time. Jake is joking that they committed a war crime but he knows that he agreed to go there and was paid. It doesn't change the fact that he suffered majorly both psychologically and physically.
I honestly don't understand where your vendetta comes from. I understand that you are upset over being called overdramatic but why drag Jake into this? You started by calling him and Rosana victim's of dogpack but now you are framing him like he is untrustworthy as well. Which one is it?
Also Dustin just contradicted what Delaware's brother-in-law (?) said. According to what he wrote, Delaware sat down with Jimmy and his mother and explained his background about the allegations.
So Dustin not only lied but also is trying to play the "Jimmy was young and made mistakes" card even though his mother is heavily involved with his company and holds an important in the HR department from what I heard. She is older so you would think that she would have looked into the background of people they employ, even putting aside what Delaware's family member said contradicting Dustin's statement.
@@Idk-xj1iq because bro literally said he was advised to stay silent by his lawyers bruh the whole lesson of this video is that people gotta be doing they research before talking🤦🏾♂️
I do believe some of what Dogpack says is true for one reason
Why the hell would you not immediately come out and say “this is absolute bullshit” and address it to get it out of the way
No matter what you do, you’re gonna look guilty sure, but it looks more guilty to ignore and silence comments talking about it then just addressing and denying it
@@Maciej_Płóciennik he said he's waiting for dogpack to finally drop that 3rd video but it's taking forever, that's why and he's obviously deleting comments because haters that blindly believe lies aren't welcome anywhere
@@nazomius7033welcome to my world. I swear those types of comments really drive me nuts. Like at least Jimmy is trying to help others before he dies naturally and they still wanna hate on him even tho he has done some bad stuff in the past of his. ☹️
@@nazomius7033 saying that eating fewer calories and more salt is healthier for children was a pretty major one. He was also hyping up a cryptocoin while his crypto wallet manager was already dumping it
@@nazomius7033 This video proved some of dogpack's allegations are true. It was obvious what happened to Jake Weddle was not a "war crime." It's still morally wrong. MrBeast's lotteries are still gross and exploitative, whether or not they are legal. Not to mention the crypto stuff. Dogpack may have lied, but Jimmy has honestly done worse overall still, and needs to be held accountable for his gross practices and negligience
@@nazomius7033the dude who scammed his audiance with crypto and uses child and slave labor on his chocolate company should only slightly be scrutinized?
Jimmy should only be a bit scrutinized, and it should mostly be placed on dogpack. However, it’s unfortunately not happening as long as there are humans without an open mind. They will continue believing the lies from dogpack..
@@thebattleshell To everyone in this chat, Jesus is calling you today. Come to him, repent from your sins, bear his cross and live the victorious life
I feel like this was definitely a MrBeast glazing video. It started out OK but the interviews felt like MrBeast was responding to the allegations without him personally responding. You are definitely right to criticize dogpack for the misinformation he spread and it was a shitty thing to do. Knowing that MrBeast is sending your video to commentary channels as his side of the story makes me feel like he had a hand in the making.
It's people telling their own experiences he still maintains that the guy did things that should be addressed but we shouldn't be hating on him for false claims.
Bruh pedo alligation , war crime allegation are literally messed up and same thing yu told is applied to yu how much yu have been paid by bitchpack 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
it definitely sucks that dogpack was lying about so much shit, but mrbeast is still a shitty and questionable guy regardless (which i know u touch on in the vid dw). was waiting for a commentary yter i like and trust to make a vid on this. good job!!!!
edit: yes i know a lot of dogpack’s claims were completely disproven, i accept that and acknowledge that mr beast is innocent in those departments, but this video does not cover ALL of the mr beast accusations and drama, just dogpack’s, as well as jake weddle’s briefly.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl are you acoustic the cry ptoscams are real exposed by Co ffryzilla and one of the illigale gambling was true i used a singular and do you know why i put a space because my comments are getting deleted so if this gets deleted ikd what to do
@@WhyThoOz He knew about kris tyson being a pdf file he recommendet kris tyson to watch the video and didn't acually pay for the hospitl that cured blindness also no im not dogpack404 fan but still doesn't mean that mrbeast is like the antichrist no but does it mean what he done id bad yes so nobody is innocene and he isn't the worst sorry for my bad englisch
@@SKNTAi A youtuber who is known for his philanthropy and, now, illegal gambling is NOT the same as a serial pdf file, trafficker and kidnapper who was barely even known in the first place for financing
@shadowed69 He's not, you believing the word of the guy who never actually told them of the guy's history until much later when the person actually was kicked.
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@NoName-lf6kc bro stop using charity as a shield, let me name some people who positively impacted a group of people with charity, Oh we have Jeffery Epstein, that Austrian painter (my reply will get deleted), Kris Tyson (involvement will mrbeast) they must be great people
@NoName-lf6kc wow, you got hostile quick, I was just saying that he's not in the clear, whether or not he's a good person is determined by whether he does charity to make money or if he makes money to do charity, him teaming up with Logan Paul and ksi isn't a good look on him and the beast games allegations were backed up by actual hospitals. Just because dogpack was evil and wrong doesn't mean that Mr beast is a saint. Lunchly mold and beast games were both examples that Mr beast can't be trusted to handle a business setting. Also, why hasn't mr beast responded to the allegations yet. Soggy shouldn't have to be the one to destroy dogpacks credibility, Mr beast could've given the same info. If Mr beasts end goal is just to make money, then his charity isn't charity, it's a job. Doctors save lives and make money, but it's not charity because they're doing it for money. If Mr Beast's charity is just for the money then he's never done a charity in his life. If you gain more than the person you're helping then you're not doing charity. I was always on the fence because of this, the entirety of lunchly seems to show that Mr beast is a capitalist, not a philanthropist.
@@qykolas but he still has positively impacted the world more than you. I don't care if he's the greediest person on the planet(your other allegations haven't been proven), he's still done more charitable deeds than this entire comment section ever will
@@lyndisrobin i was always skeptical about the drama but when he dropped lunchly the it basically destroyed any possibility of innocence for me. The dogpack allegations may have been false, but Mr beast still talked about Ava's dick on a discord with minors, he still partnered with two horrible people, the beast games stuff still happened, he's still ignorant of how to safely handle things, and the crypto scams allegations still stand
@@ahobbyist9520 are you blind one was real i said the singular from illegal gambling was true even soggy cereal said that did you watch the video and what about the crypto scams from exposed by Coffezilla
@@Jordanisokatnth I don't care what Mr. Beast thinks of me, nor what he will do for me. What I care about is the truth. Which is what you should care about, too, not what people can do for you.
@Thedarkbunnyrabbit yes, you're right. Everyone should be treated fairly. However, mrbeast doesn't know you, never heard of your username, never saw you subscribe to him, and will never put you in a video unless you have 10m< subscribers. And you still defend him with your life
@@Jordanisokatnth It's sad that you think the only people who deserve to be treated fairly and not slandered are the people you know, but that really says more about you than me.
@MikeTheMaster102 because it effects more people than a single or small group of victims, now it's horrible this stuff happens but unless there was a youtuber similar to that Austrian painter then mrbeast is currently the crown holder
@@MikeTheMaster102 trust me I know of alot,i already explained this but youtubes heavy censorship deleted it, anyway he is without a doubt, his monopoly on the platform makes it easy for him to influence the algorithm into what ever topic he wants, want curing blindness, sure! want $1 vs $1,000,000, go ahead! he can choose this on a whime, now that make shim the worst creator to ever join the platform
@@lyndisrobin 1: he wasnt that rich when he was gambling, 2: its not unethical he aint hurting noone, 3: how do you know hes a addict your making stuff up all you know is he gambled atleast once while under 21 and the word addict is thrown around
@@Jordanisokatnth Oh yes, you're right. He did one 'illegal lottery' the first time he did a giveaway, like all youtubers do, not realizing that it was illegal. What a horror! That totally makes him a bad person.
@@testacals…because he is quite literally a gambling addict and it is illegal? and, yeah it is pretty unethical. he thinks that him being filthy rich is more important than the law.
@miglek9613 jesus fucking christ, however there is only 1 victim there, which my condolences of course, that must be horrible for her. Now mrbeast currently has an algorithm empire and has brainwashed kids, parents and even youtubers alike. Into believing he is some kind of saint, now since dog pack has shot himself in the foot with a rocket launcher the general public is back to pro mrbeast, is that not bad?
@@Jordanisokatnth he definitely isn't the worst of the famous youtubers tho. Don't forget that Onision, who literally adopted a 14 year old girl with the goal of dating her in a few years (and was actually cauht by Chris Hansen), is still on youtube kids (or at least was at the start of the year) and that's pretty difficult to top
@user-kf4gt7bo2k and I assume ur just talking about the first rso section because the evidence he provides later doesn't rly fit the situation ur telling mr
@@goldenmonke7582 He is not arguing dogpacks overall claim that mr beast did a certain thing. He is arguing the details of the claim that are always going to be wrong when everyone says what is happening.
It is like a girl claiming some guy graped her and then there are a couple people that confirm it but then someone comes out and says but look she said she was wearing a red dress that night and here is a picture of her in a blue dress. Because she got that detail wrong then we cant trust anything she says (even though there is other evidence/people saying it did happen).
@@goldenmonke7582 It doesnt change the fact that he hired one. That was the claim. Yes they added the whole nickname story implying that everyone knew about it but regardless of that story there is a very good chance that everyone at the company knew about it which is why he started wearing a mask. Yes there is one video from way back in the day from when he was working at best buy but unless you do a deep dive you arent going to find that. And also they would have no reason to put him in a mask at that point because he was working for another company. My personal belief is that they hired him not knowing he was an RSO but because of all the locker room talk. It started spreading as a rumor around the office and that joke about him not being allowed in Delaware was most likely born out of those rumors. But eventually, Mrbeast did know about it or heard something and could have let him go but kept him on payroll and in videos and they decided on wearing a mask.
@user-kf4gt7bo2k my personal take a out the rso nickname stuff is that he said dogpack lied about the origin on the nickname saying that's its because he did the crimes in Delamere. But u could see Delamere on the dudes uniform from best buy. Since the nickname is allegedly tied to his previous crimes I think it's relevant and we should talk about it. It also shows dogpack is wiling to make stuff up to prove a point IMO feel free to correct me
@@user-kf4gt7bo2kpersonally I think the interviews hold more substance . And tbh I don't understand what ur trying to say english is my 2nd language could u simplify?
Soggy is such a glazer. He wont get off of mrbeasts junk. Sorry but his whole argument was Dogpack lied about where is nickname came from and then just says "Yea he was a RSO... but dogpack LIED about his nickname!!!" The outrage we should be feeling because he lied about his nickname. I lost all respect for soggy. There have been multiple things confirmed by mrbeast employees/friends like admitting he is an RSO and he was hired at mrbeast and he did wear a mask in 99% of the video. I havent finished watching but I have a feeling soggy will do this the whole time. He will twist one little part of the claim and ignore the big picture. I wonder what he is going to say about not know Chris(Ava) is into pdf art even though he lived with him and had a poster right up in the living room.
Edit" Yep I was right. So now soggy is arguing over whether the word warcrime was used as a joke or was serious instead of the fact that MRBEAST tortured someone for a frickin video. Whether it was a joke or not they still did it and it was by mrbeasts direction for more/better content. This is not real life anymore. When you are so invested in proving that your idol isnt a bad guy this is the stuff you start to argue about. Semantics. Please someone update me in the comment which of these arguments hold substance and at what time stamp because I cant watch this trash anymore.
@@arielperez3613 Did you even watch this video like at all?? Or are you simply too dumb to comprehend information? How the heck was 18 year old mrbeast supposed to know an employee is a s offender when a multi-million dollar company did not have any clue about it.. Also how can you still trust jake the viking when he is one of those people who has been criticised by BOTH sides of this drama- both weddle and mrbeast employees have called him out for being a jerk.
@@arielperez3613 i agree and said he can be criticized for it, but dogpack framed it as though jimmy 100% knew. Hiring an rso knowingly is way worse than unintentionally hiring one. Especially at that young of an age. Also if Delaware was already a manager at a large store brand like best buy I think it would be reasonable to assume theyve done a background check already, but that's just me being charitable.
@@joebrewbergBeing young doesn’t excuse the lack of responsibility, especially when he had the opportunity to set a better example for millions of people, including vulnerable audiences. Even if the hire was unintentional (which I don’t even know if that’s true because Jimmy knew according to Jake the Viking), the failure to vet his team properly reflects poor judgment that shouldn’t be overlooked.
@@arielperez3613he can be 100% be criticized for being wreckless and not doing background checks, but doing so unknowingly is no where near as bad as hiring them knowingly. Also keep in mind he was like 18/19 at the time and the channel was like 5 people and not an entire company with an HR department like it is now. Ignoring this context is just being intentionally dishonest.
@@lyndisrobin As he also pointed out by means of the captain Sparkles vid, it is very easy to do that without realising. In the next streams he fixed his mistake
@@db1671he is manipulating his child audience into buying his poorly made products (lunchly, feastables, beast labs) because he wanted to make a quick buck, he has participated in illegal gambling to make a quick buck, he has harbored pedophiles in his company that he knew were pedophiles (ava tyson), he has made allies with terrible people (elon musk, logan paul), the working conditions of his “challenges” are questionable and many women contestants have reported being harassed, rigging results of his “challenges, he has participated in crypto scams, his “curing blind people” video actually wound up being very harmful to the blind community, he is just another white rich man “philanthropist” who has built a false, harmful narrative about africa, etc. even if dogpack lied about a ton of shit there is no excusing all of that other stuff, something soggy cereal briefly mentions in the video.
@@xeralt2914actually it is not. soggy quite literally said that the first instance of illegal lottery was in fact technically illegal. also even though its not talked about here, mr beast did do underage gambling. in north carolina it’s illegal to gamble when ur under 21 and he gambled in his late teen years on a gambling site that is illegal to use for everyone regardless.
@@xeralt2914 one was made soggy cereal also confirmed one but the crypto scams where exposed By Coffezilla that's why watch the video before Commenting
@Sandyy_sandy bro he is worst than a child predator and trafficker. First off war crimes, second off monopoly of the whole platform, third off friends with said cp/t and hired too, even after he knew of his true intentions
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@@AdrianAnimations360We should all be thankful MrBeast isn't a Jaystation/QuantumTV level scumbag that throws everything out of the window for the sake of money Mrbeast is a craphead who always loves to have his company be Logan Paul and KSI still It's just that this story is fucked up from every standpoint and every side and i expect that MrBeast meatrider who is in the most replies of the comments here to chime in like the smug, worthless bofoon that they are because honestly, they are just as pathetic as MrBreast and DogPack Sorry for the outburst, just had to chime in
Who was recording that conversation of him talking to the COO? Curious. After watching this video, it’s opened my eyes to just how we really need to always second guess things and do our own research. Because people may have bad motives and use heavy manipulation to direct a narrative. Love the videos you’ve done. Subscribed after you called out Airracks fake videos.
@@poopypants9983exactly it’s a small part of the video, did you regret saying those things and what are those things? It’s cut in a way to discredit someone.
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@FrankBrennosTheGreatest security cams often have audio esp in big places its just usual trashy audio, I imagine they record it to use if someone sues for son dumb like getting fired rightfully.
where I work has audio and video on cameras but you have to raise your voice for it to make sense....
@@FrankBrennosTheGreatestif you’ve done nothing wrong you have all the more reason to record to prevent anyone making completely false allegations, so you can easily disprove these
Wife has been an HR Manager at many companies for the last 20+ years. Most employers/Human Resources departments record all interactions - especially during hiring/suspensions/firing - for compliance & litigation cases. Many states do not require disclosure that you state you are recording, whereas 2 party states have to disclose it. It’s to protect the company because so many people try to claim sexism, racism, and more when they are doing their interviews and/or exit interviews (firings). It’s not the least bit uncommon with bigger companies especially
@@noot-noot-pingu-noot-noot you do realize that you can just add the background noises and overlapping talking in yourself after getting the ai recording right. big oversight in your thinking bud
@@unity2808 I have never had a job interview that was recorded. I've never been fired though, I'll admit that, but I can't imagine these being recorded either in most cases. If you've done nothing wrong as a company and you have a valid reason for terminating someone's contract, you shouldn't have anything to fear. I don't see what's to gain from recording the moment you fire the person. If anything, it's a good way to put pressure on someone who might say something wrong in a moment of vulnerability. It's shady AF.
@@FrankBrennosTheGreatesthey so fun fact! Most companies record job interviews and firings so that if and when a case is made against them for violating anti discrimination laws you can make a case easier! Just letting you know!
from the volume of the voices it sounds like dogpack's manager was recording it, and personally i believe it's a genuine recording bc the audio sounds too complex for ai to generate (the various volumes of people in the room, and overlapping talking at some points) but i definitely agree that there should be an explanation of how he got the recording in the first place, especially in a video about debunking info
That recording is suspicious to me and all too convenient (assuming it's real). The only reason one might have to record this kind of conversations is because they're scared of being accused of something. Also, if you're aware you're being recorded and the other person isn't, you can really manipulate the outcome in your favor. IMHO this just adds to fuel against MrBeast and his company, rather than make DogPack untrustworthy.
Thank god they recorded that conversation to have proof later of how badly he wanted that job. Dogpack turned out to be the exact kind of person you never want to hire, and somehow "slipped thru the cracks" (as Dogpack would put it) into getting hired after being rejected TWICE. I think that his female coworker was being kind on how bad working alone with him in a room was.
It's not gambling ffs. Simply just Google or ask ChatGBT what gambling is...
A slot machine ain't gambling... If U bet real life money or asset on it which you'd lose if U don't win is what gambling is...
When U r buying chocolate to enter a game based on slot machine, U r not losing anything, cuz U already paid your money for chocolate, no one taking that chocolate away from u...
If U don't lose any property it's not gambling by definition
people wanna believe that they are free thinkers so bad but as soon as a video like this drops, they suddenly switch sides. how about you stay neutral bc none of these people know you and don’t blindly support either side as soon as they say something new
EDIT: YOURE ALLOWED TO CHANGE YOUR MIND WHEN NEW EVIDENCE IS SHOWN, for fuck sake, I’m not saying that you’re not, I just meant it’s funny how a lot people say that they’re going to remain neutral until the situation is nearly over, yet they bandwagon on either side of the extreme when it comes to information that’s still word of mouth
Implying it's not possible for a free thinker to change their mind on something when they gain new information is just dumb. There's no point in being as stubborn and thick headed when the evidence is laid out clearer and more coherent than any of dogpack's videos
@@misomar7193 i see very few comments admitting they agreed with dogpack and i see very few comments on dogpacks video admitting they liked mrbeast, atleast some people are pretending that they were always right
@@MikeTheMaster102 that argument is so dumb bc the people making those comments aren’t the same people. you’re telling me the same person who said “i knew it” on the other video are the exact same ppl on this one saying “i knew it”
As someone who was stayed out of the entire drama and has remained as neutral as possible until everything blows over and all the information is revealed...
Yes, people should do that more often, and while I do generally lean towards Mr Beast, I have stayed more or less neutral in the whole situation with Mr Beast.
I feel like this is true as when someone else thought Jimmy didn't do that, they basically forced them to believe them, and I think now it's gonna be the opposite
@ I’m not saying you can’t change your mind when actual evidence comes to light, I just think it’s funny how many people say they’re going to remain neutral until the situation is near over, yet they bandwagon on either side of the extreme when it’s still he said she said
again, you can feel how you want abt facts but when it’s still “allegedly blah blah blah” it’s strange how quick netizens jump on that narrative
bro when mrbeast got "cancelled" i was laughing at all the comments on dogpack's video like "i knew there was something off about mrbeast" or "wait people didnt know his vids were fake?" now dogpack gets exposed and everyone was like "bro i knew the whole time mrbeast was innocent" and "ive been on mrbeasts side the whole time" i never chose a side fully but mrbeasts side of the story always seemed more reasonable to me
His downfall in my eyes happened after he released his second video. I couldn’t put my finger on it at the time, but a lot about Jake Weddle’s story just felt off. Like it was straight out of a movie. After reviewing his story again and Jake tarnishing his credibility by taking money from Mr. Beast, I knew this guy was just a crybaby who doesn’t want to take any accountability in his life. Seeing as how Dawson is willing to associate and relentlessly defend Jake, I knew he was an untrustworthy source
the thing is --- people are free thinkers --- but people are also prone to falling for propaganda whether it be on a large or small scale. i think this video demonstrates just how easy it was for many people to do their own research into the claims since much of it was readily available and that those who did, were disregarded. after all, a lie travels quicker than the truth - especially when you have a loud enough megaphone.
I don’t get paid to research a topic that has 0 impact on my life like silly drama. So ill change sides with new information but in the end it really doesn’t matter
You know people don't care. People like to hate, either one side or the other. The only person I mildly trust from this video is Dustin. Probably because of the beard.
This video says literally what I have said since Dogpack's initial video dropped. He was obviously a lying disgruntled employee and I have shut him out ever since.
How the fuck did you have any access to such private informations like Dogpack firing audio record? Even Coffeezilla, a YouTuber much more bigger than you cannot even contacted an employee. This is just another damage control i guess?
@@stanmangamer2264 idc about dogpack, but Mr beast is still doing bad shit, and even if dogpack is lying, that doesn't mean all the allegations towards Mr beast aren't true.
could be but still if mrbeast could have sold this man out he would have defended mrbeast completely. He says most allegations are true in the video and that hes just adressing the ones that he thinks that arent true and ones that he knows of. I do agree with you on the private information part though, strange. Maybe he had connections with mrbeast members even before the drama started, all the talking he got with that manager dude says so.
Me deleting my comment calling this video propaganda just for it to come out that this video is propaganda two days later is hilarious
(For anyone wondering, someone at Mr. Beast paid for Soggy Cereal’s flight to the US. Then Mr. Beast started begging drama channels to cover this video. As a reply said on another comment, Mr. Beast “100% had editorial control.” This is just another variation on “I’ve investigated myself and concluded I have done nothing wrong.”)
Everyone who fell for this is extremely gullible because it hit a bunch of propaganda 101 language in the first five minutes.
@@MrMarcusGD I am so sorry your education failed you. If you receive gifts or compensation from a subject, you have to throw the entire investigation out and someone else has to redo it from scratch. It’s not credible if you have been paid.
"propaganda" mrbeast asked people to cover it so people wont think hes that bad as dogpack said. Also even if he was paid (he wasnt) the video still disproves the allegations so your argument doesnt make sense.
I commend you for doing real journalism. I will admit that I was one of the people that fell for dogpack's allegations and I commend you for taking the time to truly dive into all these allegations. Not just doing in depth research, viewing the allegations from a more charitable perspective, but I was incredibly impressed that you flew to America at your own expense and did these interviews. Again, thank you for doing real journalism and fantastic video!
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@TheTrueBlueOne Can't speak for anyone else but not me. I've been watching soggy for a few years now and I trust his opinion. Also the evidence is just much better researched and believable in hindsight compared to dogpack
I didn't fall for it because he was so intense with his original accusations of the whole place being surrounded and busted by police, then bringing 0 evidence of something THAT extreme... it just seemed outrageous. What's his personal gripe?? Pretty obviously he's resentful... I'm only 10 mins in the vid I hope it's stated
@@tobyonatabe2601Benefit of the doubt. 1. MrBeast was not active enough to pick up the individual ages of every person present. Chat logs show that there is no activity from MrBeasts side whenever a minor would be mentionning their age. 2. The server was originally for Chris' ADULT friend group to play video games. Eventually those friends invited other friends and grew a community, where the minors actually come from. MrBeast did not know Lava prior to this. 3. MrBeast was typically not very social with the strangers (would include both adults and minors) in the server (stated by Brainfreak)
So apparently and allegedly this guy Dustin and this other people out of nowhere decides to speak with him because of a slop video? And when do these interviews happen? Am I supposed to believe it happened after the internal investigation? Didn't the investigators retain/recommend employees during the investigation to not make public statements in order to ensure accurate information and avoid witness getting tainted?
He still exposed mrbeast, don't get ahead of yourself. The leaked chat logs, ava Chris Tyson's activities, illegal auctions etc are undeniable proof of wrongdoing on Jimmy's part.
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I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form
They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor
I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours
Life's a fight, but trust, I'm ready for the war
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I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king
Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring
See, I believe that if I see it in my heart
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I guess this is how the story goes
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40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
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They cast me out, left me for dead, them people cold
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This is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows (everybody knows)
They know me where it snows, I skied in, and they froze (yeah)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
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Man i always thought i was good at media literacy and misonformarion recognition but i really bought every single lie dogpack presented. Im very thankful for you diligence and hope we all learn a bit from this situation.
@@awsomerobyn2603 They are not doing the same Thing and soggy acknowleges that mr beast is doing and has done shady shit but that doesnt make anything dogpack said true lol
@@fleacosmos66 i watched the videos twice and Soggy disproves Almost every claim he makes. But even if he didnt disprove everything the fact that dogpack made up so much shit and was so shitty in the DMS to Soggy is enough
I implore you to watch Dogpack’s video again, Soggy does not actually mention a lot of Dogpack’s claims, rather focusing on minor details that he can attack.
Soggy is using this time when the memory of Dogpack’s original claims has faded from recent memory to manipulate people opinions.
The best way to combat misinformation is to listen to both sides of the conversation.
@@droketheroperright lol. It’s not even hidden. The flight is all you need to think about. But the access to employees is sooo obvious, nobody else says peep but this guy walks into down and everyone clears their calendar? 😂
This video is also sketchy. Soggy even admitted that Mr beast paid for his flight to the US to film this and he gave him access to a bunch of high level beast employees.
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
I also will stand by my belief that Colleen Balinger is not a groomer and should not have been cancelled She could have changed some things, like not interacting so personally with fans and having more respect for fans. But other than that, mob mentality and resentment was used by Adam successfully just like with Dogpack and the mob mindset bewilders me so insanely much
Not the same for me, everything he did and said was incredibly fishy. I think people are very easily susceptible to mob mentality and wanting to rally against a supposed villain more than they think. The claims he made were downright ridiculous, unsubstantiated. He made a few decent claims. That dude he brought on was so fishy too.
@ That is true, but we will have to wait and see. The topic is very contentious and it’s obvious not everyone in the situation is telling the whole truth.
@@grunkleg.2934 he could be but it depends on some of the points. He has presented a lot of evidence for many points. A lot of dogpack’s allegations were from anonymous Mr beast employees while the ones that soggy presented come from named, real Mr beast employees. I trust the word of someone who is provably from Mr beast than someone who is unknown. Of course the employee may have a bias but when the only thing backing up dogpack’s allegations is a mystery person you probably shouldn’t trust it.
For example, it is proved that Delaware’s name was not given to him by Mr beast and was actually from when he worked at Best Buy. However, the theory is that Mr Beast was hiring people to work at his company and found Delaware as a best buy manager and assumed they would have done background checks on him and hired him to his company before knowing he was an RSO. That is an assumption but it makes a lot of sense because Jimmy was like 18 years old at the time and his mom probably would not have hired Delaware had she known he was RSO (that is an assumption not backed by evidence). Also Jake the Viking was hired after Delaware was, so I doubt Jake actually knew how Delaware was hired.
I mean, I did used to believe some of what he said, but I also kept waiting for Mr Beast himself to respond to it before making a final decision.
Plus, I don't think you can fabricate so much about someone without having at least a sliver of truth, to give it legitimacy. I say don't feel too bad if this slipped past you. Mr.Beast did not help his own case by not saying a word if this was all lies that could be refuted and the kernels of truth "legitimized" the lies in the eyes of many people.
If you believed DogPack without any sort of questioning or scrutiny, your media literacy and misinformation recognition skills really aren't the best. Just because a video is well edited and presented in a serious tone, does not mean it is gospel. Always be critical of what you consume, no matter who it comes from. That said, it was rather obvious that a lot of the accusations were going to be baseless when he started going after "CGI" that wasn't even relevant to the video in the first couple of minutes 😭😭😭
If you bought everything Dogpack said, then you were never good at those things to begin with. There were people calling out his lies the entire time, and people just wrote it off as riding for Mr. Beast. Those same people are like “wOw, I cAnT bElIeVe He LiEd” as if they haven’t written off people calling it out.
Everyone believes they have good media literacy when the accusations are directed at someone they already find disagreeable. "My guy" though? Always innocent.
Yea I don't blame you it is extremely easy to make fake evidence all you need is to hire someone make fake conversations and boom you can frame them for cheating
Can we just all at least acknowledge that these two are practically doing the same thing - they both have almost no evidence to prove that there statements are in fact true
Plus I don’t really think that mr beast is the best person - not for the reasons that were told in either videos - mr beast comes off as a chronic lier who shows little to no remorse. Manipulating people and others situations for his own benefit - giving away such a small percentage of his money is a way of him making more money and collecting an audience of people who will defend him no matter what.
I thought i was good at recognizing misinformation but clearly not. I blindly believed everything the dog guy said without actually fact checking anything. But as they always say: the moment you believe you can’t be scammed is probably the moment it will happen.
This whole situation made me feel that I am good at media literacy and misinformation recognition, but in whole honesty I probably am not and was just able to tell this one isolated time.
the fact that delaware remained hired, to a point where he had to appear on video with a mask on means that at some point they found out and didnt care to fire him.
I would agree, but Jake specifically admitted that information to defend Delaware, so it seems pretty sound.
Plus, what reason would Delaware have to think that Jimmy wasn't going to run a background check on him? That's what most employers do. So obviously Delaware is going to explain himself before he immediately loses the job (which is what any RESPONSIBLE employer would have done).
@@shadowed69 I think Viking is untrustworthy, considering how he changed his story about his depature from MrBeast several times, continued to try to milk what he could from the situation (such as his tweets that "Jimmy knew", when that would mean that Jake ALSO knew), and trying to backtrack once it came out that Delaware was related to him. I'm not saying he's lying, but I would not take his word as the truth by itself
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@Anime_OniHe may have deleted the comment, but he is going around telling other YouTubers to react the video on Instagram. He is probably trying out a new strategy.
@@lirich0 The airfare for this was paid under the table by a MB affiliate named Dustin, because (by his own admission) Soggy couldn't afford it. The video literally wouldn't exist without help from a third party.
i find it wild that even after you repeatedly said that mr. beast isn't innocent or above criticism, some are still acting like you're waving a "jimmy is my lord and savior and benefactor" above your head the entire time. you showed how mr. beast and some of his orbit were their own type of ethical red flags AND that dogpack was trying to be both manipulative and threatening behind the scenes through your own exchanges, held very little regard to other creators when utilizing their platforms to spread his own narrative, and refused to hold himself to the same standards he claimed jimmy was guilty of --- which seemingly showed in his resumes to join the company.
while i don't want to believe his intentions were entirely from the perspective of a disgruntled employee, i've believed that his presentation of "facts" didn't align with what was available and felt as manipulative as mamamax's videos - where what truth the story held, was lost beneath too many layers of either tall tales or straight up tale-tales. the more time passed, the more it felt like he was using the story in order to gain social capital more than monetary ones and from what i've seen in the comment section, it's partially worked.
@@somethingsomething404 sponsored? you do realize not every creator has the ability or readily available funds to get on a plane, but even without that, the questions asked and answered would have remained the same had they done it over video call. moreover, it's not like this was a big puff piece for mr. beast. he highlighted that he still has to answer for the squid games work, that he was still ridiculously negligent in his hiring process, and that he did commit an illegal lottery that - hate to tell you - is likely outside the statue of limitations (which from a quick search could be around 5 years from the act itself)
if this were some puff piece that said jimmy is innocent of all crimes, then you'd have a better argument to make, but this wasn't about that. this was about dawson not being open to questions soggy wanted to ask regarding his allegations, then threatening to somehow expose the creator himself if he persisted without any substantial evidence, and upending quite a few relationships and the peace of people he added to his videos without permission.
as he stated, believing completely in either side is foolish and myopic, but to foolishly write this off as some "mr beast sponsored video" is choosing to put on a blindfold and say to hell with any other perspective.
Dogpack404 is basically the MamaMax of MrBeast at this point. If he admits to fabricating evidence and getting advice from ChatGPT, I would not be the tiniest bit surprised.
@shadowed69 The evidence Soggy provides is not cherry-picked that are all the points Dogpack made himself but you know who's points are Cherrypicky Dogpack's. Jimmy's mom was the manager for Jimmy at the time when he was a small YouTuber, Delaware was named Delaware because of his work-uniform having the name Delaware on it. He only wore a mask for one video for the other, you can see his face. Also, why should Jimmy's mom hire a registered Sex offender on purpose? When it makes more sense that she didn't know. Why does Dogpack not mention all this info? Because then it would look like Jimmy didn't know about it. Jake the Viking is not a creditable source because he lied multiple times about the topic too and is a known clout chaser in general, not only to Mr. Beast.
Again, you can hate on Jimmy for crypto scamming not doing a background check on delaware and for the Chris Tyson situation that's fair, but there is no evidence that he knowingly hired Delaware the only testaments are from people that have a track record for bending the truth.
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@eII_gato but what I am saying is Dogpack's intentions were to destroy the Mr. Beast brand under any means necessary and he shouldn't have a JOURNALIST YouTube channel after this anymore because he killed all credibility. (2/2)
@@eII_gatoBecause he is a disgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false ones. Not saying Mr. Beast is a Saint, (1/2)
@eII_gato Because he is a disgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false ones. Not saying Mr. Beast is a Saint, but what I am saying is Dogpack's intentions were to destroy the Mr. Beast brand under any means necessary and he shouldn't have a JOURNALIST YouTube channel after this anymore because he killed all credibility.
@@eII_gato Because he is a dissgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any real evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false one. Not saying Mr-Beast is a saint, but what I am saying is that Dogpack intentions were to destroy the Mr-beast brand under any mines necessary and he shouldn't a have a journalist YouTube channel anymore because he completely killed all credibility.
@@eII_gatoBecause he is a disgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any real evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false one. Not saying Mr Beast is a saint, but what I am saying is that Dogpack intentions were to destroy the Mr.beast brand under any mines necessary and he shouldn't a have a journalist YouTube channel anymore because he completely killed all credibility.
this video puts the "slop" video you made in context. I can imagine how frustrating it must have been to see every single commentary youtuber get facts wrong while youre finding things that are just misinformation. due dilligence really is important regardless of what platform you use to inform people.
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@user-kf4gt7bo2k i dont agree with all the claims he made in the video, but the point is that dogpacks arguments mostly fall flat. like we all know mrbeast has done horrible shit. soggy accusing dogpack of reverse searching what he thought was CP after he (kind of) dismissed that kris thought the same thing when sharing the image is some of that stuff
no need to lose your faith in humanity im just glad theres another perspective
dude he is mostly arguing semantics here. Claim "Mrbeast hired a RSO and hid is identity" Soggy "Mrbeast actually didnt INTENTIONALLY hire an RSO and you can see 1 video from 25 years ago where he wasnt wearing a mask so there is more proof he wasnt hiding his identity bc why would he have him without a mask in one video."
Claim "Mrbeast tortured jake for a video" Soggy: Jake said one of the employees said it was a war crime but in fact he was joking when he said that and Jake said he WASNT joking but then later he slipped up and said he was joking when he used the words war crime. HA HA Gotcha!. "
It is purposely and completely missing the point of the claims.
The fact that people are falling for these semantic arguments is baffling. I lost all hope in humanity.
I understand that it was more of a rant video, but I kind of agreed with everything that he said. What made it more frustrating was when some of the slop channels fought back by saying that they are just youtubers, that they don't have to be held to high standards of research. Sickens me.
Wait, does my math isn't mathing, or is this debunking of feastables not being bad is not that great too? Hershey's has 1 serving for 43 grams and 220 calories, while feastables has 2 servings for 30 grams and 160 calories each. If I turn 1 serving of feastables from 30 to 43 grams, it would make it to have 229 calories and 18 grams of sugar. With single bar feastables it rises to 233 calories, and, funnily enough, 22 grams of sugar. Which means that they seem to have different formulas for different sizes)
It isn't that bad as it was claimed to, and there is still less sugar too. It just doesn't look good when you are talking about numbers, without doing math.
I honestly can't understand how anyone could defend the whole CP situation with DogPack and Rosanna, it genuinely makes me irrationally mad, like do these people even understand why owning and sharing that material is morally wrong and illegal in the first place?
yet the FBI is allowed to do it? you guys can take a chill pill and understand you have to have this stuff in your machine to research/reverse search it.
And then, get this, delete it after you're done ????
"Owning" cp entails intentionally having it stored for the sake of having it.
The creator Coffeezilla did a brief preliminary piece on Mr. Beast’s potential shady financials in the crypto space. Like SC, he does nuance and explains complicated schemes very well and is extremely careful with his words. As a result of him reaching a wider audience with popular topics like Mr. Beast and Andrew Tate though, he had to post a “please don’t be a vigilante or do anything to anyone I talk about; that’s the government’s job” because people were actually going after some of the people he covered. That’s who we’ve become.
@FactsBurst.1 That's called a notary. It's perfectly legal my guy. He would likely have at least 2-3 people who are official notaries for him. Meaning they have the legal authority to do that. Like. Can y'all chill about stuff you don't know anything about?? Again. There are valid reasons to criticize him and his team without talking with your butt cheeks.
Okay, but the "war crime" defense for the Jake Weddle thing was ridiculous on Soggy's part. I'm autistic, it's harder for me to pick up sarcasm and hyperbole than most, and even I knew that what happened to Jake wasn't necessarily an actual war crime when he said it. That doesn't mean what MrBeast did to him was okay, though. The "he agreed to do it" defense wears a little thin here. If we can agree that that defense doesn't hold for something like Squid Game, where the game literally involves participants dying, (But they agreed, it's all fine) then we shouldn't extend that defense for something like compelling a man to run a marathon without training, something that CAN kill you
@@joshuahsimons9587 Dude no. Notaries are a legitimate thing. And that's what it looks like was actually happening. It would 100% make sense for Jimmy to have at least a handful of legally notarized employees to help out with paperwork like that. And a notary can either stamp their own signature OR a higher ups as long as they are signing something in good faith and with consent. Meaning they either legitimately thought this was okay OR Jimmy himself has behaved similarly enough in the past for them to believe they were stamping something in good faith. There are absolutely some fishy things going on there but not the way old boy tried to make it out to be. I'm pretty sure he has like 250ish full time employees working on videos AND business related projects. He has to have notaries or he'd be personally signing paperwork all freaking day. And a notary can stamp something with equal power once they pass the course.
So maybe some people were stamping stuff they shouldn't but like... notaries aren't forging or faking anything. It's a perfectly legal and normal business practice that he's trying to sound shadier than they actually are. Which isn't to say they couldn't still be doing something shady but what he presented isn't inherently wrong or illegal. There would have to be way more investigation done than has been so far.
However, I have noticed that Jimmy and his team are lawyering up when it comes to some of these more business and scam related details. And not being forthcoming with details like that is a bit sus in my opinion.
No one is saying that the brand is perfect but like I said....you don't have to lie or inflate details to prove that. I suggest you check out Coffeezillas coverage as he doesn't have a personal bias against the entire brand.
@@joshuahsimons9587 This is actually one Coffee Zilla is covering too but like ...be so frfr rn most of what that guy said was just nonsense he made up OR made sound a lot worse or more illegal than it actually was. I objectively still hold him accountable for the brand and his employees to a certain extent but due to his refusal to let ANYONE talk about those situations is pretty telling after he let these employees discuss other aspects of his lies. But most lies ARE bolstered with a small amount of truth. That's just how lies work. For instance Jimmy hiring a straight up predo may have occurred but there isn't actually any evidence that he WAS fully aware of it. He definitely should have been considering that comes back in a freaking background check and he should be running those for ANYONE on his team. So when he mentions those "forged" signatures he needs a lot more evidence that Jimmy himself said that they COULD NOT notarize paperwork for him. Something most companies do allow but gives him legal wiggle room when it comes to a lot of stuff in the back end. I'm not saying he was only chatting sh- but he's literally not a credible source and made up a LOT just to bolster false credibility and slander a company that is already in hot water for things they have evidence of doing. Idk like selling poor kids poison for profit.
@@The_Unknown365-x3x I actually don't hate them at all. 🤷🏾♀️ There are just legitimate reasons to criticize them without literally lying through your teeth about it. And some of his lies had a modicum of truth and because I was under the impression that he was a past employee in good standing with legitimate evidence I did give him the benefit of the doubt. I have my own personal reasons for not liking content or people like that without lying through my teeth and that's not like...hatred. And it's pretty weird to see my comment and just be like "Oh this fully grown adult just secretly hates some random dude on the Internet for no reason." Grow up my guy. You should be critical of the world around you in general. There are tons of valid reasons to side eye most content online. It's literally why I follow this channel. I couldn't have done this research or gotten these interviews myself at all. And other reputable creators ARE discussing things he has PROVABLY DONE and can't get more than a heavily lawyered up statement from his team over. Trying to convince kids that fewer calories means something is healthier? Like no. Go sit at the back of the class little one. You are clearly not paying attention.
@@joshuahsimons9587 Youtube has a built-in feature that automatically cycles through a list of creator-supplied thumbnails and gauges which one is the most effective. Every large youtuber does it
@@eugenekrabs141 Youtube literally has a thumbnail tester feature, which will test 3 thumbnails you have made to see which one gets more clicks and then will keep the one that gets the most.
@@joshuahsimons9587 Yeah Ludwig also changes his thumbnails all the time. He says youtubers do it to see what thumbnails gather more views so they can use the things in those thumbnails more
I don't understand the war crime argument, maybe they meant a joke as in they weren't in war. Did they or did they not refuse to turn of the lights? That is the issue because it's torture, even if he was free to leave mr beast was holding money in front of him to patriciate in torture like a real life squid games. Basically "sure you're free to leave bro but you're losing money"
No one here has any brain. Jake mentions again and again in his video that people on the set really said to him that Mr Beast and the team has big expectations from him. So he had to perform. He was willing to eat shit because they were paying him so much. He can't just quit selfishly in 1-2 days just because he doesn't like it. He was feeling the pressure because an entire crew was present to shoot his footage and he didn't want to let anyone down. He was getting paid handsomely, he wanted to deliver. Too bad most of you here have no work ethic. Also, even Mr Beast didn't expect the challenge to turn out this bad. That's why he offered the rest of the money to Jake after he went public. The man suffered a lot, whether you want to believe it or not.
Also another nuance: he was fired from Mr Beast production yet still went back for this video. He obviously wanted to be on good terms with a potential future employer. If he would've quit in a few days, how would it have looked in from of the crew and Mr Beast? That he was a lazy SOB.
That's the problem with you folks, on one hand you're ready to call someone lazy and on the other hand if they persist you call them an idiot for having somewhat of a work ethic. Also, Jake was terrible with finances so it isn't a surprise that he really needed this money.
This comment is what a nuanced take looks like. Grow up kids!
@@tobiasbayer4866 I’m not arguing semantics. My point focuses on the clear distinction between voluntary participation and coercion. This isn’t about nitpicking definitions; it’s about addressing the main issue: the participant willingly chose to engage, taking responsibility for their decision. The difference between discomfort and coercion is substantive, not just a matter of wordplay.
It’s not torture if the participant willingly chose to take part, knowing the conditions. Discomfort doesn’t equal coercion, and calling it “messed up” is a subjective judgment that ignores the participant’s agency and responsibility. Dangling money in front of someone’s face doesn’t negate their freedom to walk away. The offer of money doesn’t force their hand—it simply presents an opportunity, not a demand. They were free to decline and face no consequences, which makes their participation a choice, not coercion or exploitation
They were free to decline and face no consequences. Maybe you would argue that Jake’s being financially desperate , pushed him to accept, but that doesn’t mean he was coerced. Desperation might influence his choice0, but Jake is the one who still made the choice. It would be coercion if threats we're involved. No someone offering you money for conditions in a challenge is not a threat. Financial hardship alone doesn’t turn an opportunity into exploitation.
@@Testoider I have no "goal posts to move", cause I don't care. I just found the point made in the video dumb, like it's an "oh see, it wasn't bad at all" thing. It's bad, just cause it isn't illegal doesn't make it not bad.
People can go and not buy lootboxes any time, doesn't make preying on vulnerable people ok.
@MaakaSakuranbo pleae read my other posts which account for personal agency. It does not matter how desperate weddle was, he made the judgment call he would do the challenge. "Blah blah blah" isn't an argument. Him being able to leave at any time is extremely relevant in the distinction of whether the challenge is legal or not. The point I am originally responding to is related to whether or not it is torture. It is not tortue. You are moving the goal post by trying to claim "well it may not be legal but it sure isnt heckin nice." I am responding to you to simply to reiterate my point humor you.
@@Testoider It's still abusive, whether or not it's illegal. Yeah blabla, he could've left any time, blabla. Giving people money to put themselves through bad stuff targets people who really need or can't resist that money. Same reason why lootboxes suck even though not illegal in most places. Preying on vulnerable people.
@@MaakaSakuranbo It does matter if it is torture because that's what would make it illegal and a war crime. Whther it is a shitty challenge or not is the thing that is actually not important. This is same of how someone cannot like a certain sport, like mma for example. People might not like the violent spectacle and could call it "a shitty sport" but the same way ufc fighters decide to participate in a "shitty sport" jake Weddle decided to take part of a "shitty challenge" .
@QiZFziG4 Weddle was not a prisoner, nor was he forced to do the challenge. Whether someone offers you cash regardless of however little or however much to do xyz, it is up to you to decide if it is worth taking the money in exchange for that challenge. If Weddle was literally being detained or an actual prisoner, then it would have been torture but since he decided to take the challenge and also especially because he was free to go at anytime, it was not tortue. Again, it is not Mr. Beasts responsibility to make Weddle financially stable. So "waving cash" in front of him does no mean Weddle was forced to do something regardless of Weddle's financial standing, as Weddle decided he would do that challenge.
@@Testoider Look up "white torture". It's very much a thing. Just because Jimmy gave Jake Weddle the bare minimum for him to survive that doesn't mean that he also wasn't affected mentally. MrBeast convincing Weddle to do it by waving cash in front of him while Weddle needed it was just wrong.
@anna-flora999 MrBeast’s actions aren’t exploitation because participants have a clear choice—they’re presented with an opportunity, not a threat. Even if someone is financially desperate, they still have the agency to accept or decline without coercion. Responsibility lies with the individual who makes the decision, not with MrBeast, for offering the opportunity. Exploitation involves threats, manipulation, or removing choice, while an opportunity allows for voluntary participation without fear of harm.
Example of a Threat: If MrBeast said, “Participate in this challenge, or I’ll ruin your reputation and ensure you never get work again,” that would be coercion and exploitation.
Example of an Opportunity: Offering a challenge where participants can choose to compete for a cash prize, knowing they can walk away at any time without consequences, is an opportunity. The choice remains fully in their hands.
To say that Mr. Beast needs to take responsibility for his actions here is dishonest because the onus is the person who is being provided the chance or opportunity to participate in the challenge, not on Mr. Beast.
An easier way to understand this is that Jake is desperate financially because of his own actions. Mr Beast is in noway responsible for Jake financial stability.
@@Testoider I agree. The same way mrbeast has to take responsibility for exploiting a desperate person. It definitely says something about his priorities
He was getting 10k a day each day he was in there. He could leave at any point and get all of that accumulated money. Just 5 days is 50k. Yes, he would still get paid insane money if he quit just a few days in. Nobody was "holding money in front of him." He could leave at any point and still get paid.
It's about pride and taking responsibility for your actions. Whether or not you accept money in exchange for something you don’t want to do, regardless of your financial need, the choice reflects your priorities. In that moment, you decided that your pride was less important than the money.
This means it is not torture, as you are making a conscious decision rather than being subjected to unbearable suffering.
It is also not extortion. Extortion involves coercion, threats, or manipulation to force someone into doing something against their will. In contrast, someone offering money for a task is simply presenting an option—you have the freedom to decline, which makes it fundamentally different from extortion.
@@Testoider Yes it's not a war crime which I stated that could have been the joke but sleep deprivation is literally torture the way he described it was like tv stage lights that stuff is really bright there's no way he could sleep in that he even talked about having insomnia after that happened which is a side effect of sleep deprivation. Even mr beast thought it was messed up or rather bad pr because he reached out to the dude and gave him the full money. Apparently this dude was doing it to pay back his student loans which is so messed up in my opinion. Some people are desperate and will do anything for money
That isn't torture lol. He was able to leave at anytime. If you aren't detainee or prison its not a war crime. He could leave whenever he wanted and no one would have stopped. Yes, there was money but its up to you to decide what to put up with for that money, not the other person
hypothetically if I wasn’t allowed to leave Soggy’s basement and he wakes me up every 37.5 minutes to feed on my fibres and nutrients, is that a war crime, therefore breaking the Geneva convention??
@@M.Ritesh Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
This drama makes everybody look terrible. Those who believed Dogpack are gonna get slandered for being stupid and gullible, those who didn't are gonna be, and have already been, slandered for being a 'Mr Beast dickrider'. Leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Watching slop is fun but it's nice finally seeing an unbiased opinion.
Also unrelated but I don't think Rosanna is in the wrong in this situation, just very gullible and doesn't look into things too deeply. Esp when I saw the Higehiro slander, that set off a few alarm bells
@@SS-xr7jf you know what? agreed! i like to believe most have good intention, bad execution, but when it's something as serious as that --- so much so that you're @'ing the fbi rather than filling out an actual report, it does cross from plausible deniability to being maliciously negligent. it becomes even more egregious when, rather than focusing on the use of it in the thumbnail, you focus on the color changes of your background for a/b testing. so yeah, i get where you're coming from and have to agree.
@@macnkeebs there’s a point where your bias is no longer manifesting as gullibility, though. And she either thought it was ok to have barely edited csam in a thumbnail, or knew it was fake and accused them of it anyways. If you get to that point, any plausible deniability she might have had went straight out the window. Because neither stupidity, nor gullibility can explain that sort of gross negligence. So she is, in fact, also in the wrong.
@@SS-xr7jf being gullible can come from bias, which i think most can agree that there was a clear bias she holds. as far as spiteful and mean, much like this video states, two things can be true at the same time. one can be so blinded by their own bias, that they lean into it so much, they skip due diligence, become negligent themselves, and use their anger at being maligned in harmful, spiteful ways.
i for one, have no dog in this fight other than wishing the actual victims were able to have been heard and seen without the additional circus show that was brought with it.
Nah. Rosanna is clearly a spiteful mean girl who did not care if the allegations were false as long as she got to cause Mr. Beast reputational harm. That’s not being gullible and stupid. There’s plenty of blame to share with her too.
@@carln5690 i agree. even the framing of it felt different than her coverage on the squid games' allegations, where it wasn't highly produced or edited or filled with a brightness about it. it was simply her going over what was sent to her. whereas her time with dogpack felt very much like a gab session between two friends for tea --- where the topic of the day was suspected crimes that felt fbi-worthy. optics sadly do matter in things like these. as much as we wish we were evolved enough as a species to think they don't, they still do and that video was not a good look from start to finish.
I watched some parts of dogpack's videos, but I didn't care because I'm not into Mrbeast. This is why I don't trust everything without hearing from multiple sides and forming my own opinion.
@@Joshuamiller19570 I think a lot of it stems from the ideology that 'all rich people are a-holes', which is kinda fair in and of itself. Nobody actually needs more than 20m, and even that's a stretch. But MrBeast didn't really do himself any favors either by staying silent, because silence basically means an admission of guilt. And also with the moldy lunchly going on, with his co-founders just making fun of a very serious problem, nobody was going to be on his side anyway
@@macnkeebs Yeah, it's definitely very biased from her, there was so much wrong with what dogpack showed and said in the video. Honestly, to me it kinda felt like rosanna weddle and dogpack were a group of teen girls shit talking behind someone's back if you know what I mean xD. Like there was some substance behind it, but it was built on poor ground
i think that rosanna might have had tinted glasses on due to her dislike of mr. beast/jimmy that stemmed from the editing of that creator hide n' seek video and the backlash gained from it. it's understandable since she felt maligned and i think, had she remained more focused on the squid games' allegations that were being sent to her from contestants, it would have been the better avenue to explore.
i think the second she began to veer into the dogpack stuff though without her or her team doing their own due diligence, then using suspected cp as a thumbnail in her video while claiming to alert the fbi without doing any kind of research prior --- was where her glasses became a full blindfold. i don't believe she was gullible as much as she was biased, which happens. it's just sad that what legitimate grievances she held, will likely fall under higher scrutiny more than before.
I never believed Dogpack for a second, Honestly was sick how easily the Internet turned on Mr Beast, But what can ya do? It's the Internet, A soulless land filled with degenerates a-holes >.>
I had no stakes in this when the dogpack video dropped, could feel something was off and either way the videos after talking about mundane unserious and unimportant allegations gave away that Dogpack was disingenuous at best and malicious at worse.
I’m surprised anyone took his words at face value.
Hiring someone without doing backgrounds checks is a mistake, keeping him on staff and letting him wear as mask after finding out is the sinsister deliberate part.
@@johnnylittle9299 I know a Geek Squad manager that explained that they run an involuntary background check every 6 month. But he also said that when he was a Best Buy manager, he never did a background check. Maybe it's an implied thing for some companies? I know when I was hired at FedEx, they ran a background check in every state.
That is wrong info from Dogpack. Delaware only wears a mask in one video and in the other videos you can see his face. Delaware was called Delaware because of his work-uniform having the name Delaware. Also, Jimmy was way smaller at the time and didn´t do background checks. Is it negligent yes, did jimmy know about Delaware before hiring him, no.
@@cheesemanthe2nd no I’m saying that Best Buy probably should’ve done a better background check too especially Mrbeast was just a rising YouTuber at the time and Best Buy is a huge brand
@@gewnurb Don't tell me you didn't know what SA and PDs were when you were 19? It's still his fault for not doing a background check. I guaranty that you blame bestbuy for not checking.
@@hammer3721 One is trying to slander another person for revenge. While Jimmy unkowingly hired someone without making background checks and then fired them
don't expect a 19 year old starting a business to expect bestbuy didn't do background checks and do them himself, also note that delaware most definitely just asked for a mask and maybe gave an excuse like "I don't want to be in the camera" or something like that and jimmy just said "yeah sure", some people are like that and making the assumptions that someone is a pedo because they want to wear a mask is idiotic
My god thank you man. It was getting pretty irritating seeing video after video of content creators being so impressed with Dogpack's "evidence". This video is quite the satisfying b!tch slap to DogPack and all the content creators that amplified such unauthenticated claims to millions of their viewers with zero regard for responsibility.
I think it's time for this to go off the internet and be handled by law enforcement and an actual court. All this reporting for YouTube is just muddying the waters of the case and could jeopardize it.
@@norhe. Plenty of the things mentioned are illegal. The Ava situation is its own illegal can of worms. Also defamation. Mr. Beast can easily sue Dogpack and a bunch of other things.
@@Ceratisa Mr Beast being a scammer and fraud. He is shady af aside of dog packs lies. Even Coffeezilla confirmed it, the most respected journalist in the internet.
dude the thing is he just open the pandora box, you cant deny aloot of allegations and missbeheviour about the videos, both jimmy and dogpack are pice of shit, specially jimmy he know exactly what he is doing, he is smart and i dont think he dont know exactly what he is doing, the assosation with 2 pice of shit for luncly, criptoscams, market manipulation, even luncly lie in the nutrition labbel for the amount of some sustance it have, even the investagations says nothing about aloot of allegation mrbeast as company have, like the other dude who work for mrbeast comapany say one ceo was giving aderal edit videos until late night, more and more people come to confirm some allegation
@@leontriestoart honestly, he was trustworthy at first only because many were too lazy to do research and at the time there was a lack of counter arguments
I never trusted him. If he had "gud intenshions", he would have made this video wayyyy before getting fired. All the AI shit does not help. Smug ass attitude at moments doesn't help either.
@@erikshields3724 He wasnt, because even in his first video he got things right and wrong. People ignored his questionable stuff and agreed on his facts.
Dogpack has always been untrustworthy, people just were way too quick to believe him blindly cuz he rode the wave of uncertainty around Mr beast after the Kris Tyson stuff
Already come out—his flight was probably paid for by Mr. Beast, the YouTube account commented on this video right away and then deleted, and Mr. Beast has been asking drama channels to promote this video. Video is propaganda and unusable. If someone wanted to use any of the claims made here ethically they’d have to start from scratch and verify it themselves.
Dog pack is either going to ignore this video or he is just going to say nuh uh to everything. Edit:Guys please stop blowing up my notifications just like or dislike it please
No dog pack is just gonna say that this YouTuber graped a kid or something. Or more realistically,”he attacked and killed the queen of England. How do I know… JUST TRUST BRO.”
@aleksandrmaksimov2818 really let me guess barely doing a video on it providing no evidence because guess what that's the exact same things did the trying justify accusing it innocent man of sexual abuse
He’ll do that, he’s that, he’s gonna bla bla bla… How about you all just stop making assumptions, which is caused all of this shit in the first place, or are you all that dumb and blindly believe all that dog, cereal and other people says online for clout 🤡
@@hellboy9458 I think the internet will clown him and few people is gonna help him defend against the so many supporters of MrBeast, MrBeast currently has the high ground.
The best move for dogpack is to ignore everything until MrBeast makes a small mistake and then go all out milking that mistake until everyone start siding with him again after a few months just like how MrBeast did it
@@lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198 since everyone was looking for any reason to hate mr east and then dogpack comes out with all these “accusations” a lot of people won’t listen to our cereal overlord
Here's another clip out of context: In his now deleted video about MrBeast's CEO, DogPack shows a clip of MrBeast saying "I don't get along with women" and then CUTS the clip right away to make it look misogynistic. The original context was about dating and MrBeast said "I don't get along with women who don't have a hobby."
@@FabioGeometryDash Oh, the MrBeast dating preferences. I think he still got backlash just because he shared his type of woman to everyone and then immediately got labeled as a misogynist, right?.
This is no doubt part of mr beasts PR campaign. While he may be right, he is probably being payed by mr beast for this video which would make 100% sense.
I would also worry about some comments. With a person who has so much money, mr beast, it would be a no brainer to not pay people to write positive comments that made him look good. Sure there are people who defend him. But the length some of the comments go, replying to everything and absolutely glazing feels off.
Take everyone with a grain of salt. Even me, but mainly people who have the most to lose and the most to gain.
yeah absolutely, soggy has a bias against dogpack and mr beast clearly paid him, and he doesn't really disprove anything that dogpack said. Also the positive comments are from gullible children who can't think for themselves
Really respect you man, but the one thing I have to disagree with, is that leaving lights on at all times while someone is in solitary confinement is actually a war crime. It can psychologically damage you and drive you insane by messing with your circadian rhythm.
Edit: I forgot to clarify this is exclusively targeting that one point, and isn't an attempt at invalidating other arguments
We as viewers cannot simply take your word as gospel, as you state in your opening you are doing this because you did not have a good interaction with Dogpack himself. due to this bias, we cannot take your words at face value, just as we cannot trust dogpack or the employees of Mr Beast.
"When someone is prepared to doctor evidence to make potentially incriminating lies more convincing, it automatically puts every single one of their accusations that isn't bulletproof into question." - You, Soggy Cereal.
I find it very funny that right after you show the leaked recording of a firing, you go on to later accuse Jake Weddle of being disingenuous in his showing of an AI voice recording. Everyone who has tried to defend Mr Beast or cover all topics has stated how Dogpack404, Dawson French. Only worked at Mr. Beast for 3 weeks. If he were such an unimportant and low level employee, then why was his Firing- something that is a very very sensitive legal issue, be recorded and then leaked. Not only that but you have not cited your source for this "evidence" and we don't know who it could have came from, and it could very well be AI seeing as you either haven't vetted it, or are protecting the person who recorded it from legal action dogpack could make against them.
The Delaware allegations being summed up as a dumb mistake aren't on Jimmy's fault as a 19 year old. Keeping him hired after the face, in which was confirmed by his brother was. (I am not speaking about the text to Jimmy's mom, I am talking about the tweet put out by Jake how Delaware had taken a plea deal for his sentence. If it wasn't ever true that Delaware was a sex offender then why would they run with the lie instead of denying it outright, it hurts the person they are trying to protect, Delaware, more than Jake or Jimmy.)
Bringing up how many wars are active in the world is a red herring, it draws the viewers eyes away from the actual account of the story and instead paints Jake and Dogpack as insensitive or even malicious in their description of events, by comparing it to the victims of war crimes. In this context the wars are the world are Irrelevant whether it fits your story or not.
In reality nobody who wasn't present for the entire solitary confinement challenge can dismiss James Weddle's claims that he was intentionally sleep deprived during his entire experience. We only have 1 eye witness account from the victim, if anyone were to step out and dismiss or reinforce the allegations they would be much different. A warcrime is still a warcrime even if not committed during war or by a country. Even if it was intended to be a joke, there is no proof it didn't happen at all. The comment of him not being a detainee can also be put under scrutiny because Jake was kept inside and attempted to be convinced not to leave, after he had decided 100% he was leaving and made that clear. That makes him a detainee against his will no matter how much time has passed.
Also using the clip of Jake saying he "Alleged" it to discredit him is very suspect, seeing as all of Dogpack404's videos would be considered "Alleged" so would Coffeezilla's new video, anything from Rossana Pansino, or any of the victims of the Beast Games amazon show. It is a legality to say or it makes the process of being sued for slander and defamation 100x easier for Mr. Beast LLC.
The Accusations of Jake Weddle spreading AI voice recordings of Jimmy are Null and Void and you are taking advantage of cut context. TWO MINUTES into the video, Jake Weddle SAYS ITS AI. BLATANTLY. And to VET YOUR SOURCES and not trust this video if it gets spread around. You cannot use "My AtTeNtIoN sPaN" as a reason to condemn him, It took quite literally 6 seconds for him to say it was AI. (I measured it by going to the video and seeing how long it took, I expected like near a minute? no. 6 seconds.)
Looking at the 50k from Jake's perspective, him and Dogpack are not on some Holy Crusade. If my life was on the line and I was at risk of being sued, I too would take 50k with no strings attached. It is the smart move. No matter if he is my enemy, if it can go to my lawyer's fees when he eventually tries to sue me Id take it.
Ironic that you talk about Doctoring evidence after clipping Jake Weddle out of context in the Ai video.
Currently you have both cherry picked clips and attempted to involved Dogpack, Jake Weddle, and Rosana Pansino, which is a gross usage of guilt by association. In reality all of his detractors are separate bubbles with overlapping parts, like a circle chart. So dismissing all of their arguments as if they were a group is foolish and Fallacious, especially when you have Bias to attack Dogpack404 for calling you overdramatic.
Illegal lottery #3 I believe is actually correct, there was no wrongdoing due to how Mr. Beast advertised, but it would be wrong to say that his other arguments aren't true or are in question due to this regardless of his credibility. That is definition Argument from Fallacy, and is a misuse of scrutiny to base an argument upon.
The reddit post getting deleted was information unknown to dogpack at the time and it was likely dogpack's contacting of the Mr Beast PR team that caused this. Due to Dogpack's infrequent and lengthy uploads there is possibility he talks about this in his next video. You simply processing and publishing this evidence faster than him is not a reason to attack him for it, although it does make this accusation instead a misunderstanding.
The CGI buses and Trains comment is a Strawman argument, Dogpack argued that the WHEELS on the bus were fake, not the bus and train itself. The car however is in a difficult spot, the recoloring argument is a red herring from the digital lift which you provide no actual evidence of being false or true. You simply direct the viewers attention AWAY from the original issue. We will not know if the car was digitally lifted or not unless someone recreates the stunt again and films it all the way through.
The first rocket car has documentation by a channel called Donut of its build, but the SECOND rocket car, the one that was changed to blue, has 0 documentation or at least documentation that is now unavailable. Warped TV also didn't BUILD THE ROCKET CAR, that was done by Donut. Warped designed the ramp and the football field jump, which both videos are here:
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I only put the ends of the links here so my comment doesn't get deleted for advertising or some other dumb filter, put these onto your own youtube links.
Also again with the overdramatic thing, you are cementing your own Bias in the situation and acting like a child.
The problem with the leaked work chat messages is the fact that you don't disprove them and their contents. No matter what YOU believe, or the fact that the photo was proved to not be CP. Chris Ava Tyson BELIEVED IT TO BE CP. And made multiple other jokes about things of that nature which confirms INTENT. It was their INTENT to share CP and that is the allegation that matters. it is honestly in my opinion disgusting to dismiss these matters due to their contents. Dogpack IS IN THE WRONG HERE for reverse image searching it.
Just because Ava Christ Tyson made the chat for edgy nsfw memes. Does not mean that it was not a company chat. The discord had private channels for NSFW and we still condemn them for what they were, ALONG WITH the people who were in them; we do not MIX THE TWO, There were Children in these channels but they also existed ON THE OFFICIAL MR BEAST DISCORD. That is 2 sets of inappropriate conduct, the difference is 1 is a felony and the other is just horrible practices. (It also does not take a rocket scientist to differentiate the two, so do not swap them around or conflate my words in a different manner than is clearly stated.)
More on the work group chat, the opinions of the man who leaked the chat are just that, opinions. It is his opinion that they were not related to the pedophilia Ava Tyson has exhibited in present day.
Also the man who leaked the messages DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOUR ARGUEMENT OF IT BEING AN NSFW MEME CHAT. HE CALLS IT A WORK CHAT IN THE CLIP YOU USE!
Also false reports to the FBI can get up to 5 years in prison. I know its a joke, but dude the risks are high for a false report you call "easy". Filling out the forum is easy but when the FBI has the tools to know and find exactly where you are, that prison sentence is just around the corner.
The problem with proving jimmy didn't know is the rest of the contents of the chat and their contents, which you have been selectively picking through and throwing out this entire time. Like Ava assuming the photo of Ivanka trump was UNDERAGE and SAYING IT OUTRIGHT.
For the cancer awareness ones you should be saying allegedly, which you've joked and made points on earlier in the video. Calling Dogpack a creep straight up is not legally advisable. You don't know his intentions, and your only actual interactions with him was him calling you overdramatic.
The thing about the old man is a eyewitness vs eyewitness, but they both are claimed eyewitnesses and we have no concrete proof of falsehood. You trying to dismiss it is using the fallacy of Appealing to Emotion. In which you use emotional responses rather than factual evidence to win an argument.
Thank you, I didn't have the time or effort to put alot of the things hes saying into words, or go as in depth with how you just did, i got halfway through before going "So when are you scrutinizing all of the stuff about mr beast, chris's stuff, what chris did, and the videos of the. Forging and obvious cgi.." because it sounded like he did alot of the same stuff he accused dogpack of, cut videos, had a video of dogpack asking for a 2nd chance, didn't show evidence, then showed an AI video about jake weddle. Like, if that's ai, why can't the other about dogpack be AI? And jake literally said it's ai less than a minute in, if he's worried about "attention span" he would've made his intention more clear and be less disingenuous because he hasn't stopped riding mr beast for over 45 minutes (first half so far.)
We 100% can't trust dogpack now, but with how dogpack is and jake weddle is, jake and rosanna still seem really credible to reveal all the lies. Mr beast is still in the wrong
I can't believe I had to scroll this much to find a person who made sense/wasn't a dick rider/automatic side changer/who knew how to use their brain.
It was obvious from the start that Soggy ain't someone you should trust fully if they're using the common fallacy of appealing to emotion technique you see so many times around, emotion is literally temporarily and the internet is forever , once emotion subsides things come out, one just has to stay patient now and wait.
Also... unless he ACTUALLY VETS HIS SOURCES AND PROVES that audio clip ain't AI, it's literally worthless evidence in this current day and age... I actually fell for it when Jake played his own audio on his video at the time before saying like 10seconds later that it was AI and I was like "Really?!?!", so him USING THIS audio as an argument/proof and right after going after Jake is... laughable man.
Mr beast is an awful human being, not the worst in the world but I didn't know it was a competition nowadays and that you're only bad when you've reach the bad-top :)
Also to you lack of attention span people out there, it's been 2days since this was posted, the video is over an hour long-- if dog pack replies which he probably will, it'll take time, a few more days probably to prepare evidence etc. WAIT for it, don't make fucking assumptions and use his "silence" as an excuse, these things take time to prepare.
There's also the fact that Soggy waited this long to make a video like this?! Like, why wasn't this "audio" used from the let go? If REAL and not AI it would've stopped things before they even got this bad-- there ain't no way on earth that Mr beast wouldn't have come out with said audio way earlier if it was true and be forced to hire crisis lawyers and retort to shitty "I investigated myself, saw nothing wrong" tactics.
Those dick riders out there lack a functioning logic brain.
The difference with the man who won 1,000,000 dollars is that it is documented by both Mr beast AND HIMSELF. He hasn't edited out the hardships he had to go through with that money, which lends him extra credibility alongside the continual videos from Mr beast.
Ironic again talking about taking clips out of context.
SO FUCKING IRONIC that you say you aren't biased when you have been talking about your interactions with dogpack this whole time, and said it was why you were ever suspicious of him in the first place.
You also cant confirm those subscribers were random. They may have seemed random to the subscribers themselves but you have no inside info to Mr Beast LLC to confirm they were selected randomly.
All of the parts in the Locoya Hill allegations section are on dogpack's wrongdoing list.
The moon Mission was also on Dogpack's wrongdoing list.
The rusty barge from the raft video was evidence that dogpack did not have access to at the time. Using it in such a way is very very disingenuous. but the other safety concerns and the timer challenge are also onto the list.
The participant of the 24 circles challenge is not Vetted at all and engages is a False Authority on the matter. IE he has dubious credentials to talk on this topic due to his nature of being non-vetted as an actual participant.
The lotteries are scummy yes. But also are not illegal like was once postured by Dogpack.
You scroll by a lot of your DMs but reading them, they are actually quite cordial? I don't know why you would even put them in if they disprove your point of him trying to slander out outright. Slow the video down to .5 or .25 to read them, they are easily readable at that speed. Timestamp: 1:03:36
I personally would have more scrutiny on the employees of Mr beast you interviewed seeing as they are still working there and under NDA. They would be considered Biased or Non-Impartial persons, and should not be taken at face value; just like how you aren't taking anything from Jake Weddle or Dogpack at face value. Not taking these things at face value is a good thing to do for both sides, but offering the privilege of belief to one side over the other is exactly how dogpack took off.
Dogpack is a scumbag. Being a scumbag does not invalidate your investigative work however. The people who exposed EDP445 were absolute scumbags, Keemstar is a major scumbag and internet leech, but he has exposed lots of people for heinous shit, Pegasus absolutely MILKED the Mr. Beast drama and has said some unscrupulous comments about people with certain views or attractions, but he has covered lots of other situations that are much less clickbait-y.
It isn't exactly uncommon for these exposers to not have the best morals or be the best people.
Anyway, Take this video with a shake of salt, I'm out.
@@AFrisbeeLadno, "sheep following" is blindly trusting a source solely based on public opinion. I can't deny that a lot of dogpacks supporters were sheeps, however a good majority leaned on his perspective because of the evidence he provided and the lack of response from MrBeast. I was also a supported of dogpack before this video so please look at this with the mindset that there may be bias haha. DogPack at first provided reasonable evidence and irrefutable claims with the gambling (most of it), those that would try to refute it would be seen as a strong unreliable defender of the corporate man. Once someone establishes a platform, it's hard to look pass was they're saying after that (obvious with MrBeast). I also believe that no one could really look at Jake Weddle with a critical eye considering his story was based off trauma and personal experiences. I also was more keen to trust the skinny dog because he worked at the company, many also established trust due to this. I think its a tricky situation and we can't blame most of dogpacks defenders (excluding onlyPegasus, I got giant beef with him), however I will admit that the more recent allegations are just wack and should have been looked into deeper by the public. More of a shame considering that Mrbeast couldn't really defend himself and the main narrative of the situation was "underdog vs money hungry cooperation".
@@Annymausd While I admit that I too was a sheep in this regard, I don't agree with blaming the audience, as it's not as simple as everyone blindly jumping on a bandwagon. Dogpack presented himself as a trustworthy source (he actually was an employee), had a plethora of "insider information" (believable due to his prior identity as an employee + NDA stuff), and even brought on an unfortunate victim to help solidify his credibility (Weedle may have lied(?) about the warcrime joke, but he definitely was traumatized by the experience + was already doxxed and such, as stated in the video). Honestly, the only reason the situation was exposed so thoroughly was due to Dogpack's slip-up via the Ivanka picture. That, on top of his poor/hostile treatment towards Soggy, caused Soggy himself to actually look more into the situation, shattering Dogpack's image as a reliable figure.
Too bad, no one’s going to believe this and will say MrBeast paid off his ex-employee to help Soggy expose Dogpack. Or they’re just Glazers/Dickriders. Get the authorities, whose word I only trust. something like that
@Humfreeee It's practically the same comment and that other one is like the top comment on that video or something, but I'm kinda impressed that I remembered that comment even existed in the first place.
@@arielperez3613 i agree with you completely, i just thought it's funny Jake saw this video and decided he's just gonna reply to this comment and nothing else
@@tenrudy the liar was dogpack. The allegations of him being treated bad is STILL true even if he consented to it because that’s exploiting people desperation for content
@@JakeWeddle I don't care if dogpack is shady, you still underwent mistreatment by Jimmy. I'm very glad you've recovered and I'm also glad you helped blow the whistle about how ethically dubious this whole content style is
@@JakeWeddlebro chose to join the challenge after you left your job yourself, made hundreds thousands dollars (that would take people years to make), in like a couple of days while literally failing the challenge, and still crying about it is crazy
@@JakeWeddle Jake I honestly want to say something real quick. I get what it's like to feel depressed. And then to suddenly find people you can relate to and that take you in no matter your problems. But you're falling in with the wrong crowd. Dogpack is very manipulative and will drop you the moment you're no longer useful to him. I've known people like that in my own life. And it might also be a good idea to stay off the internet for a while. To get your mental health back together. Comedy is a great outlet but if you share that stuff with others, not everyone will react positively.
And don't be afraid about not having friends. Hearing the way Dustin spoke about you, I'm 100% sure he can be a good person to latch onto whilst you figure stuff out. You're a social person, you can get along with everyone. And whilst not everyone can get along with you, you've got good people lined up ready to let you into their lives.
Honestly, I kinda thought you were complicit in all this stuff but I sympathize with you. Because I've been where you are right now, years ago. Fell in with bad people that used me for their own gain. But I escaped from that and got an amazing social circle now. You can do the same bud. I know you can.
@@JakeWeddleGet tf off this comment section man, cuz clearly this is not ur best work. Ur friend in this video who stayed friends with u is a real one, get a beer with him irl or sth. Cmon.
@@JakeWeddle : ... who is your wife. I start to get irritated by that. you always say you hate her. how does she pick this up? poor sod. (it took me a while to understand the comment was written by the comedian himself, you. I had to read it three times, or more, I do not want to lie, god forbid. lol. or... you here must actually be a bot..🤔 never in the world do you hate your wife. that is a test sentence, as in "find all the wifes on that picture, or find all the cars in that picture". 🤔☺
God the first time i found out about Dogpack was bc of youtube recommending Jake Weddle's video. I'm glad to know people found him incredibly irritating and unfunny
@j-money6543 What I'm saying is that the company needs to give its ok for the interviews so maybe they influenced what they said so that it would fit their agenda, I'm not saying it's the case, I'm just saying it's a possibility and I don't 100% trust either side
@bananadog152 but what soggy was asking them had nothing to do with Mrbeast company, it was just about dogpack and ex-employees. Mrbeast can't force them to not talk about it, it was totally optional and people want to talk about their experience since only one side of the story has been heard
@@j-money6543 Yeah, that's why I say DogPack is sketchy. And I'm not talking about receipts, Soggy is definitely right about those, but due to the interviews, I feel like maybe the Mr. Beast company influenced the video a bit.
@bananadog152 thats only assuming dogpack is telling the truth. It seems like anyone could tell dogpack anything negative and he publicly states it without ever confirming if its true which is insane and he's been caught multiple times now. Soggy at least brings receipts and made sure to find sources to prove whether something is real or not testimonies aside.
@@j-money6543 Yeah but if Dogpack said who the sources were, they could get fired or sued, while Soggy interviewed current employees who were not anonymous, showing that the Mr Beast company gave clearance. So, in my opinion, both of them are kinda sketchy
The difference is dogpack has never identified his sources at all, it could literally just be dogpack pretending to be 6 anonymous sources instead of actual people. Whereas soggy talked face to face with actual identifiable people. Kind of a big difference.
Exactly! People like to believe they are freethinkers (me included, I'm not special than anyone else) yet go with the flow of the most popular belief even though there isn't any real proof. Like people be saying stuff like "Aha, I knew Dogpack was always so fishy", even though they THEMSELVES were on his Side! Same goes for people who always thought Mrbeast was fishy! Sure, we may have seen some odd signs...but ain't no way you predicted the situation to go like this...(not trying to say all people, but most of us)
So glad I've actually stuck with your content for like a year now. Glad it was someone who actually researches their stuff. I didn't want to click on another "MrBeast Situation is Crazy" video. But this one adds to the conversation and actually adds perspective, motives, and some newfound information. Rather than the "Rich Youtuber (who fired me) Bad" thing that we keep seeing from DogPack. Like yeah, getting large amounts of money is hard to do morally. But not every little thing MrBeast does is going to be moral. Not justifying the alleged Crypto scams or questionably moral things that MrBeast does though. (Like filming people in poor situations for clout, marketing unhealthy food to kids, etc.)
There's investigative journalism and then there's commentary. Commentary is when someone makes a video commenting about their thoughts and opinions about a given situation based on the information provided to them whether it be true or false. Investigative Journalism is actually investigating the situation, putting all the evidence and new information together and providing those findings to the public. If you are trying to get newfound information from a commentary channel, you're not going to get it because that's not their job. I'd say this video has a mix of both, He's investigating the whole situation to get new information, providing his findings while also sharing his thoughts and opinions about it.
An investigative journalist shouldn't show any bias in their work and only provide the facts. They are supposed to be trustworthy. Unfortunately, some journalists do let their bias control their work and that can lead to spreading misinformation to the public.
There are actually some allegations that i would love to see addressed as well that weren't here! (Yes i know he said he doesn't remember all of them but i hope they are)
Like the "building a hospital from scratch video" where dogpack claims they only installed solar panels and manipulated the video with CGI
The allegations that TeamSeas didn't actually contribute to reducing pollution
Was the MrBeast games actually a terribly negligent and unprepared event or something more sinister (and what about the people who participated and sued the company for it)
Why they were deleting comments and videos and SNIPPING content from past videos if they weren't actually guilty
What about the "stranded in a cave" video where it's shown that they just went through an attraction and were never in real danger
And also, the 100 wells video where you don't know if they did make 100 wells or not, and why some pictures can be seen as reused
All in all, this video makes me feel sad. If the allegations can be so easily disproven as this video has, why hasn't the company simply addressed them already and has been hiding for 3 months in silence?
I think both dogpack and mrbeast are horrible people (according to the new crypto allegations) and i believe the drama is unfortunately just gonna keep spiraling and people will be milking it regardless...
@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms I completely agree that the video is only opposing dogpack claims, but dogpack DID talk about the 100 wells, the cave, the hospital and teamseas, which is why i do want to see what the response to that is
And I'm also making this comment because this guy seems to be doing a better job than the actual company on debunking lmao, so i'm maybe being a bit hopeful that he goes further and interviews more people from the company, as he was clearly able to do so
This video was mainly in opposition of DogPack's claims in his videos rather than in defense of MrBeast, which is probably why that those points weren't addressed
And yeah, I'd agree that deleting comments and not responding sooner wasn't the greatest idea. Maybe it was because of the internal investigation, but that's just me.
This is LITERALLY why a group of young adults under the age 30 can't run a huge media, food & marketing agency. You need to have the stuffy executives in suits to ensure rules/laws are being held. There was a reason Michael Scott hated Toby (in the office); because he was ensuring managers can't just do ANYTHING without consequence.
@pheonix2700 That's the pros & cons of being the head honcho. You make the rules, set the atmosphere & stand to make the most but at the same time take all the responsibility, blame & can lose the most too.
@@TheJOEsenOneHe did say that this video was focused on showing dogpacks lies and not defending mrbeast, he also said that he might have missed some allegations
@@ermtosis exactly. Personally feel like soggy completely sold out on this video. Especially seeing as he interviewed CURRENT MrBeast employees and they would have NEEDED permission from Mrbeast to do the interview. He also flew to North Carolina… why could he have just done the interviews via Skype or some sort of video call? Chances are, where he did the interviews were probably in the beast studios.
Doesn’t MrBeast follow soggy on X now? Seems weird how MrBeast started to follow soggy before this video got released…
Also, as informative as this video was, soggy missed out so many other dogpack points. Like the cgi of a hospital building on the philanthropy video. Also, all the big YouTubers he gets to feature in videos who are just “random”, like the guy who won the chocolate factory video.
This video seemed more of an attack on dogpack , rather than actually finding facts that MrBeast is a fraud.
And no, I’m not defending dogpack. I think this whole situation is beyond boring now and absolutely pointless. Mrbeast is never going to own up to his mistakes, nor will his reputation get tarnished. He is absolutely loving all these videos about him, because it keeps him in the spotlight, so people are rushing to his videos when he uploads.
It’s not sponsored. Dogpack direct messaged him at the beginning of the video. Also he doesn’t fully defend Jimmy he includes some true claims that Dawson made. Don’t be delusional
I wouldn't call me beast Evil imo , But Dogpack definitely falls in to that category for me cause of how many Lies he spread and Using " allegedly"" as a Get out of Jail free card for everything
@@vennadore The focus in this video is on Dogpack's massive slander. The more quantity (accusations) = the more low to high quality varies in addressing all accusations rightfully and evidentially. It is now clear that Dogpack404 is lying, but it is also clear that not everyone is perfect and not everyone knows all the right ways of addressing and what all are considered objective to justify an allegation.
@Callum0814 I get what you are saying but you also need to consider the marketing Mr.Beast is doing . If the Feastables bar had actually turned out to be more junkier then the Hershey's bar , then Hershey's would have a valid reason to sue Mr.Beast for misinformation and slander.
@@anshismad4092 feastables are healthier you cant say otherwise you talk about per gram but in the real world we are comparing two standard size bars so you cant talk about per gram, its a 8g difference between the bars with Hershey's being larger and you are being deceitful to people to claim that per gram healthiness matters here as it doesnt as Feastables IS sold as 1 serving size bars which COMPETE with Hershey's 1 serving size bars too compare the feastables "king" size bar is stupid as the difference is way bigger in size meaning that the" king" size bar clearly isnt competing against Hershey's standard size its competing against Hershey's version of "king" size bars. Dogpacks claim is not valid and neither is yours. if you simply used your brain and hands that god has given you, you could of done one google search and looked at two websites and 5 minutes of reading! You would be able to see my point and that I am right. (sources: https://feastables.com/products/milk-chocolate, https://www.hersheyland.com/products/hersheys-milk-chocolate-candy-bars-9-3-oz-6-pack.html)
@@anshismad4092 Milk and coke is not comparable in anyway, milk is (usually) a healthy drink and coke isnt. We are comparing two already unhealthy things here, serving size is how much you should be eating, we see this kind of comparison all the time and its a subtle tatic used by a lot of "healthier" option products but you dont complain becuase it isnt pointed out, or made by a figure that people want to find a reason to hate.
@@YeeHeee this isnt a maths problem its real world, comparing the weight of products that compete for the same position in their respective position in the market is stupid as they are filling the same positions you just eat less of one compared to the other and if you cant deal with having to eat a little less the fact 1 has less calories per serving shouldn't matter to you in the first place.
@@Callum0814 The judgement dogpack made was unfair . Imagine if I compare a 140g Hershey's bar to a 42g Feastables bar and call Hershey's unhealthy . Clearly you haven't studied maths if you believe that the above comparison is fair.
@@Callum0814 isn't it unfair to compare 2 serving sizes on calories and sugar if they are different amounts? Thats like comparing 1 glass of milk to 2 sips of coke and saying that coke is better for you(obviously exaggerating here but you get the point)
@@anshismad4092 serving size is what is MEANT to be eaten, people who do diets and also people who care about their health follow serving sizes and just because you dont follow serving sizes(which you definitely do and have) doesnt mean others will
@@anshismad4092 he is still spamming it under every comment and also soggy corrects that dogpack ignores serving size and ontop of that the feastable bar does have less calories and sugar (source:nutritionix)
@@Callum0814nah I think what they meant was that soggy cereal did his calcs wrong. 43 grams of hersheys is 220 calories and if you calculate 43 grams of feastables(360 total calories divided by 60 grams is 6 calories per gram, so 43x6) you get 258 which is not as high as dogoack stated but still more than a hersheys bar Edit : He said that he recalculated both to 43 grams but the calories and sugar shown in the vid is for 35 grams
@@vennadore > said that certain time stamps that none of it is evidence despite the fact what he's saying at that time wasn't about evidence yet > saying that an interview with the person that has been through the situation isn't evidence (how much more do you want and do you have evidence to disclaim his points) > saying that HR and Lawyers are the least trustworthy source, despiite the fact the lawyers he hired are top lawyers with high credibility, and that he also interviewed many different employees that have far more work experience there than dogpack > "you're talking about stuff I haven't said at all, learn to argue" What did you talk about then?
@@vennadore You're making two statements that aren't even talking about evidence, like wtf you talking about? > What timelapse are you talking about? The point was that people isn't always being random challengers isn't a bad thing, and its understandable to take certain safety percautions > Having a fullblown interview with the guy is a much bigger evidence than what Dogpack brought. You can also just look up when the video was uploaded > "Interview being paid off by Mr Beast" he reviews far, FAR more employees than Dawson, with actual work experience there. All dogpack interviewed was some sociopathic employee with the mental strength of a 4 year old child that cries after being called ugly by his friends > Calling famous top lawyer such as Quinn Emanuel and Sullivan "non trustworthy" is insane. Is some internet detective who proven to falsely accuse the wrong guy of domestic abuse more reliable and trustworthy to you?
Even if I give you the benifit of the doubt , there are still several double digit instances where dog pack was intentionally trying to paint Mr beast in a bad light due to his personal resentment towards him , I don't wanna insult someone or Anything man but if you actually believe that dogpack is the "good guy' idk what to say. Both , mr beast AND dogpack are not trustworthy.
You mean accusations with a source called "trust me bro"? 55:50 No evidence at all, also the timelapse in the video is the whole night, not an "hour"
56:50 No evidence Jeremy T. Grant participated in the "24 people in the circle challenge" at all And the final part of interviewing the MrB employees, who are literally on a payroll and have a reason to say anything to preserve their image, is just laughable. After months of damage control in MrB team, out of all possible people, he interviews an HR employee, the least trustworthy person in any company, right after the lawyers... And I really hoped this video would actually be objective for once.
Is no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables? I thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars??
Mr. Beast assuming I would watch an hour and a half long video to change my opinion of him was just another grave misstep in a series of unfortunate mistakes. His continued silence speaks volumes and if he had wanted to win back viewers, he should have just addressed them himself. At this point I cannot even give him 10 minutes of my time, let alone an hour and a half. The damage is done and unfortunately I feel it is the end Jimmy. I’m truly sorry.
@@bubbachildsupport4535 eh, hate the sin not the sinner. i can be friends with a racist and still not share their views, instead constantly wish for them to change
@@bailfire2741 why would i want to connect with someone like that though? they obviously don't appreciate human life and I find that to be a irreconcilable difference in philosophy
@@bailfire2741 idk where my reply went so: i would normally agree with your statement but the example you used is so bad. if you hate gays, you are ABSOLUTELY "them" to me. thats like hating someone for being straight, or being ugly, or being a man. They are either choosing to be hateful and using their religion as an excuse, or refusing to learn and grow with the world. Which is totally their choice, but also they can;t blame anyone for not wanting to associate with their outdated, hateful ideals. dafuq?
@bubbachildsupport4535 but to blanket statement is wrong. All rectangles are squares, but not all squares are rectangles. That in my opinion is the main divide in politics.
@bubbachildsupport4535 my aunt is gay and guess what! She is friends with people who hate gays. They still absolutely appreciate each other and they have their difference of opinion. Not everything needs to be devisive, not everything needs to be a them vs us type deal.
@@ghastlypompano2but that depends tho, like you said some will vote for a person because of economic issues but some do also vote because they share that politicians moral position and ideology. Like there are people that voted for trump for his stance against trans and minorities and you can’t blame those groups of people for not wanting to associate with those voters.
@@bailfire2741but you would be a fake friend tho wouldn’t you? If you have trans friend but still are buddy buddy with a transphobe, that says something about you. That you don’t really care about said trans friend if you’re being cool with a person that actively despises them. That like still being cool with a person that talk shit about your friend, that’s some snake like behavior.
Yeeeaaahhh I’m not making friends with a Trump supporter, and because of my position as someone who is a minority and cares about women, I’d rather avoid conservative drama and stick to my ‘echo chamber’ and community so I don’t risk my life trying to reach out to the other side.
@@homoaspien I don't really associate political beliefs with people's morals or how they really are as a person. It honestly just ruins relationships (lovers or family) just because they voted a politician they hate
@@homoaspien No, political beliefs are not a reflection of someone's morals. Saying they are is decisive and leads to shouting matches where both people on each side think of themselves as a saint and all others as a devil. Sometimes literally.
One person says "I would like if 'candidate A' won and fixed the economy through 'proposition A'." The other says "I would like if 'candidate B' won and fixed the economy through 'proposition B'."
If both of them believe that a political stance is a moral reflection, then that instantly makes them believe the other is bad and actively wants to hurt people. They both fail to realize that they are both saying "I would like if the economy was fixed."
Literally everyone in the whole world is shouting that in unison. There is not a single group of people (other than the vicious elite, which couldn't even pass a state rep if they all voted together) that wants the economy to crumble and fail, and for people to be hurting. Any examples I can think of for people who actively want the economy to fail are fringe and outliers that get painted as the representatives of the "other side".
Yes, even the people you are thinking of right now.
@@homoaspien Dude its just people. You can stand for rights and still be friends with people who believe other stuff. I dont like trump, yet I have a friend who likes trump and is a very good human being. They just see the world differently and so do I. Does that mean I should stop being friends? No! It just means we believe different stuff and thats okay!
@ Political beliefs are a reflection of one’s morals. Additionally MrBeast has sold himself as a good person who stands for the environment, trans rights, helping the homeless, and providing healthcare. He shouldn’t be so buddy buddy with people who endorsed Trump and are very publicly transphobic. Even though Ava is awful, I feel bad for her that she had to put up with Jimmy tolerating transphobic outsiders like Musk and Paul on a day to day basis.
@homoaspien oh my gosh so what they don't align with your political affiliations... he doesn't align with mine... but that doesn't matter. I don't need to agree on everything to like or respect a person. We all have our standing and stuff and that shouldn't determine how we view someone solely
@@Juiceboxlmao Yea most people enjoy getting other people to burn, but if that was you I dont think you would be so happy having your name dragged into the mud. Like this stuff is stupid. He did stupid stuff, he made some mistakes, and he also tries to fix them. Thats what we should measure people by is the sincerity of their actions and their attempts to fix their mistakes. Not just endless lashback and brainless thought.
@saltycritic i like mr beast and the world isn't so black and white. Not everyone is great including you. Let's just stop the witch hunt and enjoy watching mr beast spend his money
@@normalperson7 yeah lol the dude purposely elevated some niche drama between me and a friend of mine that no one cared about just so he could make a video on it.
@@normalperson7 Finally someone understands. Internet Anarchist is discount Sunnyv2 except he leaves his sh*t opinions in his videos. His tf2 videos were generic af.
@alyaly2355 his previous channel. He tried to cancel zesty Jesus (a tf2 youtuber) but got canceled himself. Afterwards he quit the tf2 scene and is now internet anarchist. Ppl like him are leeches ngl, waiting for the downfall of others and profiting off of them.
this whole thing has taught me i need to not take sides immediately 💀 i was so ready for the takedown of mrbeast that i believed every word dogpack said. interesting to look inside why exactly i did that lol
Then don't start taking sides immediately now, either. This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
So you instantly believe soggy cereal? ... First believe mr beast, then dogpack, and now soggy cereal... Remember that soggy cereal might also be lying
@@GatorHungry everyone wished 'positive' things that they want to do were easy to distribute for everyone but unfortunately no. Once you are influential, there are many things to consider and have towards what you want to show the viewers (without ill intentions) so it remains fair for everyone, but one or multiple unknown mishap that is consider unacceptable and everyone will judge your actions. Depending how you act on a mishap you were unaware and how much you're unawareness of those situation, almost everyone or majority won't accept you anymore if you act in a wrong way.
i didnt pick sides when i saw dogpack argue with such disinginious arguments like saying that he manipulated his audience by saying like for a cookie. Just felt like all he wanted to do is bring down mr beast
I think all the youtubers that reported on the situation exposed just how lazy your favourite creators actually are. Everyone I saw did little to no research to verify the claims in his videos and instead just put Dogpacks allegations into different words followed with a 'damn this is crazy'. Hopefully this is a sign for people to stop trusting youtubers. You yourself will always be your most reliable source and youtubers don't care to try and be fair and give both sides a chance almost all of the time because they don't view themselves as journalists, only as drama channels which should be held to the same standard anyway. Even the youtubers that were calling out Mr beast years before Dogpack made this mistake. There are so many other allegations against him that actually have shit to back it up but they don't care about doing good only getting your attention and maybe another subscriber.
@@ccaagg dogpack was a red flag for me when he kept saying "allegedly" or he had info he couldnt reveal but "trust me bro". Like we were just supposed to believe his claims without evidence. 😂
Or just don't wait to be told what to think. Think critically. It was always obvious there was more to DogPack because of his weird behaviour and tenuous claims, so not every content creator jumped on the bandwagon for precisely those reasons (such as Ludwig, who got torn to shreds for it). I don't think the lesson is not to take sides and wait for something like this. I think what you should take to heart is to use your own brain and not someone else's.
What you're implying is that if this video and others like it didn't come along and tell you what to think, then you wouldn't have changed your mind from what you were told to think earlier. That's not good. Think for yourself.
I just don't get why Jake the Viking, who really has no reason to lie about this particular thing would say that the RSO sat down with not just MrBeast but his mother and admit to being an RSO before being hired and/or fired. He would be more reliable to believe about that than either Dogpack, MrBeast or yourself. I truly think he did know, so I think that point causes you to lose a bit of credibility. The rest makes sense, I just don't get why Jake would say that if it weren't true.
Probably to protect family and throw Mr beast Under the bus by making it look like Mr beast knowingly hired a Criminal and following along the dogpack video
thank you for debunking everything thoroughly WITH actual evidence 😭🙏 dogpack's stories and allegations were honestly super fishy and im glad my suspicions are now confirmed
Issue: the people being interviewed are former mrbeast employees who KNOW that dogpack is getting sued. Why side against someone who can easily sue you?
I'm not gonna play the "I always knew it!" card considering I trusted him a lot at first, but I'm surprised not a lot of people raised an eyebrow at dogpacks and Rosannas constant anti mrbeast videos. Them calling that house "ai" was literally so hilarious, it was obviously a simple editing mistake. It really shows that once you build a strong reputation; you can get away with ANYTHING.
Ever since dogpack's third video, I've recognized his bad journalism, but in my opinion, the few things that were still proven true are enough to still condemn MrBeast. This isn't his exoneration. He still sucks
He's cooked now, idk whether Rosanna is gonna get dragged into the situation too, but I i think the best move for Dogpack is to ignore everything until MrBeast makes a small mistake and then go all out milking that mistake until everyone starts siding with him again just like how MrBeast handled it
I agree, most of his stuff is just exaggerated nonsense, but there are still factors that are true, like the most recent crypto drama mr beast has been exposed for
Too bad, no one’s going to believe this and will say MrBeast paid off his ex-employee to help Soggy expose Dogpack. Or they’re just Glazers/Dickriders. Get the authorities, whose word I only trust. something like that
Edit: also they will likely use the Crypto scam allegation to back them up
I love your journalistic integrity, but I noticed at 53:05 you ignored the fact that the contestant is literally sped up when the timer is counting down normally
It is sad that your video, full of facts and hard effort, does not get as much views or money as the drama youtube channels that add nothing to the scene... I hope youtube wakes up and helps your channel spread the truth on a bigger scale...
Dude, thank you so much for that deep dive. I got weird vibes by dogpack404's video, but I'm way too busy in RL to keep up with YouTube drama atm. Great video!
@@Mr.Starlight Because he already thought DogPack’s video didn’t make sense, as he just said. And this is concrete, because unlike DogPack, he uses actual evidence and isn’t making stupid claims. I noticed all these errors too before I saw the video, but I obviously didn’t make a video about it because I don’t have a channel.
@@Mr.Starlight I know that Soggy goes out of his way to get information confirmed and every one of his claims he can proof, while dogpack404 throws a lot of weird sh*t around and sees what sticks.
@@aleksandrmaksimov2818 DogPack, 1. Falsely manipulated his audience by lying on the internet 2. Made false accusations against innocent ppl 3. Made ppl who has nothing to do with this drama get harassed on the internet 4. Violated his NDA 5. And what he is doing is illegal
Make sure to drink every single drop of your bf DogPack's juice lil bro
Underrated content creator right here. I remember watching the Ludwig interview video a few months back, and I’m happy to see you’re finally getting the attention you deserve
Ok, I’m just going to say it here. We NEED to hold YouTubers like Kavernacle, EntLaiser, MorePegasus, CamNuggets, etc further accountable for their role in spreading false information to MILLIONS of people.
Not sure about the others but MorePegasus has literally stated that his job is just to summarize the allegations out there. Thats what hes been doing for long before this thing.
I remember when Kavernacle made a video about how PewDiePie spread an alt-right dogwhistle out of a 10 second clip where he mentioned "mass migration" in which he didn't even know the full context of it.
@@harharharharharharharharha240 Because, it seems like he hasn’t spoken about DP on his main channel. Which i think is important, given that he did use this drama to reiterate his opinion.
Why kavernacle? He already had beef with mr beast before this. He used this one moment to reiterate his opinion and mentioned the Amazon Prime mrbeast show allegations.
huge respect for this video, journalistic integrity seems to disappear online when it's about someone the public doesn't like. taking allegations and running with it is way too rampant
I remember arguing with a friend about the monetization issue on dogpacks video. I made the same point about him gaining a huge amount of subscribers in such a short time. That's a HUGE opportunity on YouTube. My buddy just replied "the video isn't monetized so..."
Also he has gotten himself collaborations with big YouTubers like Rosanna Pansino (because she was validly upset that she was cut out of getting second place).
The boob video idea was so funny when Dogpack brought it up to Rosanna because you just know if Mr Beast said that same thing, they would use it to point out him being weird.
Every smart or unbiased person can clearly see what dogpack did there ,anyone could have debunked most of the claims but the hate against Mr beast was so strong defending him is an actual career suicide like soggy said, the best thing for these creators to do was wait until someone was ready to risk it all , after a couple back and forth a starting now , many commentary channels will start speaking on this, the crypto is the only strong allegation and one more ig I forgot which
Disappointing that Dawson may be a fraud too... but I still wont let my kids watch Mr. BS content. Dude is just in it for the $$ and he just doesnt seem like a trustworthy person.
@@Queef_Storm yes obviously they aren’t going to be supervising what there kids are watching 24/7 🙄 they probably just told there kids to not watch jimmy nd that’s it. always dumb commenters on the internet lmao
@@iAtePotatoChips Oh and he is friends with Logan Paul, the biggest Scumbag in the internet, scammer, liar and psycho. How can you be friends with that, while being good?
@@iAtePotatoChips I mean.. the fact he was still friends with Cris before this and knew he was a creep is wild. I couldnt be a good person, being best friends with a damn creep.
Sure he was once good, but no one knows when he was corrupted. Based on what i learned, it was already before his fame exploded.
@@SolaireOfToast MrBeast is a good person in my opinion, but getting fame like that before your brain is fully developed is what screwed him up, I don't know much about DogPack so I can't say anything about why he's the way he is
Is no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables? I thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars???
Just following the crowd, taking dogpack’s word, and making an uninformed video about how Mr.Beast is “finished”: ❌❌❌ Creating a video disproving his claims and understanding that both parties are not great people: ✅✅✅
From the beginning driving through the corn field by the office he seemed like skitzo. He worked there for a couple days (3 weeks is 15 days that wild) but made it out to be a career working with Mr Beast discovering everything bad Jimbo has ever done.
I implore everyone interested in this drama and this video to rewatch Dogpack’s original video. The best way to combat misinformation is to look at both sides. You will see that Soggy does not actually attack the main points or evidence that Dogpack has provided, rather he attacks Dogpack’s character to discredit and humiliate him. Soggy shows a very clear bias in his video towards Mr. Beast.
Once again I implore you to not just take this guy’s word for what he says.
@@fleacosmos66 I think Soggy focused on the 'warcrimes' bit because it's honestly the most damning claim about the solitary confinement challenge. If enticing people to do things they wouldn't otherwise do with money was unethical, most people's jobs could be considered a form of slavery. Weddle willingly participated in it and could withdraw at any time.
As far as Jake Viking's credibility is concerned, Soggy only cites him to build a full picture along with other sources (i.e., Dustin made the warcrimes comment). Since Jake is the one making the claim that Jimmy and his Mom wanted an RSO on the team, he needs to provide evidence of that claim. Since he hasn't, and there is testimony against that being the case from Dustin, it's hard to take seriously.
For example the “War crime” thing. Soggy seems more focused on how Dustin compared the solitary confinement to a war crime as a joke rather than to actually address what was actually happening, which was Jimmy was enticing the financially struggling Weddle with lots of money into participating in an activity that included sleeping with the light on, something that is completely illegal to do to prisoners of war.
While yes, Jimmy did not actually commit a war crime, as Weddle was not literally a prisoner of war and could leave whenever he wanted, Soggy acted that since he proved it was not a literal war crime, that he debunked the entire situation. A reminder that this war crime comment was a joke.
He also seems to insinuate that the whole “Weddle in solitary confinement” thing never actually happened despite using multiple sources that prove the complete opposite.
Another one is the Delaware thing, where Soggy brushes off Jake the Viking’s comment about how Jimmy knew he was a sex offender when hiring him, stating that Jake the Viking is not a trustworthy source (despite the fact that Jake the Viking is Delaware’s brother-in law) only for him to then use Jake the Viking as a source when using his words to confirm that Dustin was the employee who made the “war crime” joke.
Those are the first two points that Soggy talks about, in the case of the War Crime thing he does not actually address the accusation being made, and rather addresses the joke being made.
In the case of the Delaware situation he would rather talk about a rumor about Delaware’s nickname origin, rather than talk about the actual problem at hand which was that Jimmy knowingly employed a sex offender. And when Soggy does talk about it, he brushes it off and says he doesn’t believe it (without giving a reason why besides saying that Jake the Viking is untrustworthy, which he then contradicts later)
So while Soggy does indeed talk about the controversies in a very broad sense. He does so by framing it in a way that he can distract the viewer from the actual accusation being made by Dogpack.
I hope this helps, I apologize for the long comment
@ Nothing beats telling people to look for themselves to find evidence in order to come to their own conclusions to just be met with someone asking for you to tell them what they should believe
@@Lego-MJCdon’t you think it’s a little weird that he would dm creators like Pyro to cover him being defended by Soggy? I’m not saying Dogpack isn’t in the wrong here but there’s definitely something shady going on
thank you bro, I've said this before and I'll say it again, soggy is literally biased against dogpack, and also he's changed the title, thumbnail and not only that but has had mrbeast comment and promote this video to other creators like DylanZitkus. Its so obvious that soggy made this video from a combination of being paid by beast and his bias against dogpack
Man I wish I could just be a good person and figure out when I am being lied too, this video seems far more researched than Dogpack's video, yet I still bought his video. I liked to believe I am a thoughtful person who is able to smell garbage but clearly there is no way to know for sure
Im waiting for someone to expose the person who exposes the person who exposes the person who exposes the person who exposes the person who exposes the person who exposes the person who exposes soggy
y’all they can both suck. part of media literacy is understanding Dawson can be a liar and Mr. Beast can suck. we need to stop acting like because of this a guy backed by billionaires, scams children, treats employees badly, allegedly didn’t take care of people on Mr. Beast games, and still committed a war crime didn’t do anything wrong. they’re both bad.
Dogpack is a bad journalist, Jimmy is a terrible person. Those are two very different things. Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
People are saying Mr Beast is asking creators to cover this, which reeks to me of PR. Dogpack404 being a shady person does not invalidate valid points he has made by default. You present this like Mr Beast is an underdog who needs defending, when he is still thriving off kids. Maybe focus on the bigger problem first.
@@shadowed69 well he doesn’t have to respond to anyone apart from the people that are actually directly involved and genuinely need their issues sorted, so it doesn’t matter what you want unfortunately for you and I , we are just randos on the internet
@@ltreylukwesa A true, genuine response. He can't and won't do that though, because he's guilty of too many terrible things at this point to actually save his reputation.
That's because this is PR. He straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
That’s why I think he should make a second video that focuses on the VALID criticism of MrBeast so people don’t take this as a “MrBeast is innocent, I guess we were right the whole time”
bruh, don't be that hypocrite, you made a 1st video disclaiming dogpack, then you made another slandering mrBeast and apolgizing him, and now again on the other side??? please make a video with more investigation dude, your last one felt kinda biased against jimmy, though he needs to address some stuff tbh. just make and objective video
Can I be honest? None of these people should be deemed as "heroes" Just becuase this person exposed this person, or that person got exposed for this. It doesn't mean anything imo... ???
I rather just be neutral on everything until mrbeast himself says something but other than that, I equally dislike everybody until then
Okay but the thing is not the story behind Delaware that was a scandal but the fact that he IS a RSO and that he WAS hired. The story behind it could have been a he said she said thing, who cares if the story is true or not? The fact that he is a RSO is the problem!
Garrett was frantic for a month and lost someone he was close to and took a huge financial hit because a recording of him was leaked? I mean I am totally with you that recording this unconsencually and then releasing it (voicechanger or not) is a wrong and fucked up thing to do, but this just seems like it was played up to debunk what he said.
'It wasn't a warcrime because Weddle wasn't a detainee'' But he was being held there against his will. It is at least deprivation of liberty and that is not okay. What kind of point are you trying to make? It''s okay to lock people up in a room that they don't want to be in and torture them mentally if you pay them afterwards?
''He took 50k of this 190k offer of goodwill from Jimmy feeling bad for Weddle even though Weddle slandered him'' Excuse me? He was the one that locked him up. If anything he was afraid that Weddle would sue. ''Goodwill''?! Jimmy even says in the message you show that the challenge clearly had an effect on him
The Illegal Lottery #3 Allegation I don't know. He could have a custom UI for all I know, the screens that you show could also be faked. I don't even know if the Way Back Machine is credible to use for debunking such claims. But they could also be true and it could be tailored. Why even go trough the process of making a fake UI when you could just screenshot a video and play the Lottery video over the original video you screenshotted, makes no sense to me. I for one will not think it is false or true unless I see more evidence on this.
Also the fact that Jimmy said this in a stream that was god knows how many hours long once and you bashed Weddle for saying a clip was AI directly after showing that clip because people will click off.
About the dog food for life thing: So AFTER the video got out and AFTER the allegations were made whre the user Sea-Special-4546 has confirmed they didn't get anything they are suddenly like ''Oh yeah it was my fault I missed it, it's all good now'' And you are not suspicious of that? They most likely got a lot of money for damage controll to further debunk Dogpacks claims.
He is deceiving with the Chocolate: Do you not see the 43g and the 60g next to the bars? Also the fact that Jimmy starts speaking about how he wants to make healthier food for America and only does business in Chocolate and fast food should say alot. Also ''Lunchly'' the mold aside those are not healthy meals. Yes Dogpack twists the numbers here and that is wrong but you have the information needed to form your own opinion here.
The car was digitaly lifted: So you agree that the footage has been tempered with and show a noticable example. Who is to say that the footage hasn't been tempered with further that is not noticable? Yes Dogpack should put more weight to his claims but they are tempering with footage wich you also just proved.
Then reverse image search of cp is just bad. I have nothing more to say about that and I will not try to justify it.
The ''Company Chat'': Yes it has been said before that this chat started as an NSFW Chat. So how the F does a NSFW Chat have trusted Talks about company stuff in it? Why is/was it used for company related stuff? Also the Whatsapp chat you show is literally titled ''Mr Beast Main''. Huh?
''He pushed his own agenda and framing mr beast: My dude. This is happening in a work related chat. Doesn't matter if it is marked that way, people of the company are in it and also talk about work related stuff, it even has the company brand name in the group name. By default the Boss of the company has to put a stop to this! How can you defend this? All participants of the chat at the time thought it was CP. Why did noone do anything against that?
Oh yes the posting of what one thought to be CP was ''just a joke''. So it's okay then?!
The FBI Tweet: Now you are just taking the piss. It is not about the tweet but the multiple videos they have made about the topic so far.
About the anime: I won't watch it but the anime is listed as a romantic comedy and if you read the plot synopsis of it, it talks alot about them expressing their feelings to each other. So make of that what you will. But showing one dude going ''aCtuALly ThATs noT whAt it'S aBouT'' won't prove or disprove anything.
The Thumbnails: Saying they are pedophiles by their own logic is also absoluetly stupid. The picture was blurred to being completely unrecongnisable (if still really tasteless and shouldnt have been done) but they were firstly, not shared in their uncensored form with collaegues, and secondly not being destributed like like ''Hey look at this cp, isn't she hot'' (I am paraphrasing here but you get the idea)
As many people here have stated before: Dogpack may not be a good guy. But a lot of the things he says should be considered. You are also debunking alot of the wrong points here as I have stated in this comment. Saying he has done some stupid video titles and thumbnails before doesn't debunk the things he said.
Also ''this is the opposite of intentionally making content for children'' Are you really trying to make the point that mr beast DOESN'T gear his content towards children? Really?
'Omg look at this old sweet guy, I got so upset'' Look. It is a wink. I don't know if I winked at that specific moment last year. I doubt he was approached by Mr Beast to say this but what you are doing here pisses me off even more. Why do you have to drive it up so much? You are doing the exact same thing here that you just critizied Dogpack for.
''He helped me financially'' Yeah with the price money. They didn't help him invest which was the claim made. Showing a text chat from someone (as you said yourself) doesn't prove or disprove anything. This whole video is just a he said she said situation. You come out here puffing your chest out but you said next to nothing of substance.
''Trust me bro I saw the property listing'' Sure you did buddy.
Also the big claim Dogpack made was that Mr Beast acted like Mack was ''just some guy'' and not an employee. You convenently glossed over that to talk about his living situation.
@@muxie4877 Alot of it is either out of context, suspicion without proof or entirely contradictable inside the video itself lmao. Not in hell though am I trying to respond to that dump and getting a 3 page response in a youtube comment section.
my guy, you just jumped through soo many hoops to try and rationalize dogpacks videos its crazy. Take some time, go for a walk and think it through xd. If the only way to defend someone is to argue semantics and deflect.
the funniest thing was about the fing cars: the ONLY thing they changed is a colour, there are legit videos of the jump uploaded to the fing yt channel of a guy who SPECIALIZES IN THAT and who designed and produced it for mr beast.
Oh and btw, if I understand the weddle situation its not that they paid him 50k out of 190k, they paid him 10k for every day he stayed there + after he started complaining they gave him an ADDITIONAL 50k. They did not lock him up against his will HE COULD HAVE LEFT AT ANY POINT of the video, that is by definition no tholding someone against his will.
And I will maybe touch on the point of unreleased/staged videos (circle and 24ppl for 1m dollars), when a production is big some stuff will obviously get canceled (why would he inform people about a video he is no longer releasing). As per the statements made by participants they got paid (in case of the 24ppl challange they even got double paid) so there is no one who was hurt. We also have context as to why the production was stopped: covid, which is a very valid reason imo.
Manipulative editing with pediepie: It was completely in context. The Pewds clip was about a giveaway where ''all you have to do is subscribe'' which is literally what is said right afterwards. It fits the context. I don't see this clip and go ''OMG Pewds hates Mr Beast''
This is gold: Again accusing weddle to say it was AI AFTER playing the clip like the first 30 secons into the video. But NOW! 43 minutes into the video you say ,,oh guys i dunno mr beast might actually be not so great'' priceless
''It took one google search to not falsly accuse someone of child slavery'' NO! Just because you explained why they took down the banner or what group they joined it doesn't disprove the possibility of them still doing such acts. I have no idea if they did an I will not go say that they did but saying ''But they are part of this movement'' doesn't mean shit.
A guy that is about to get fired from a job asks/pleads about wanting to stay in said job? The very job that affords him his livelyhood? THE SCANDAL!
Also it's amazing how you have so many neat recordings of every conversation he had with people involved in his firing
I agree that Dogpack probaly earned ALOT of money trough his videos, but the videos themself are not monetized. His subscribers are worthless if he doesn't make monetized work on his channel. One could also spin the collabs with bigger creators to say that he did it to reach more people with ''THE TRUTH'' Which I think is bullshit. Of course he saw an opportunity to earn from this. But I think earning money from making content is not wrong, spinning it to seem beneveolent is.
''Have you thought about the second launch'' Yeah but that is not what it was about was it. It was about the first launch. The second launch could be working completely different, at a different time etc. The claim made was about the first launch. The second launch in the document shown also doesn't state in the slightest that the second rocket is in association with Mr Beast.
Also also: The rocket crashed did it not? His point stands. The video was that of a rocket exploding. Was there footage of the mr beast rocket exploding? I don't care if A porsche or a lada crashes. The contents got destroyed and people didn't get what they paid for.
Thesy filled in for people who were sick. Can also easily be a lie. One of the employees did a lot of ''Damage control'' on Twitter when the first video was released and alot of it was bullshit. Also they should have said that some contestants are filling in. They were at least being manipulative by saying it's subscribers only.
Again it is completely plausible that the filling in for sick people statement is true and I will not further try to make this point valid unless Dogpack brings forth more evidence.
The valve turning situation: ''They did it for safety'' yes but the valves were faked, as Dogpack stated with the turning of the valves even when they should be completely turned since the water drained, the contestant still was able to keep turning. Again, they were being manipulative.
The raft: Again, maniupulation, they said they were there the whole time. They weren't. Why not add a short clip like ''Unfortunatly we had to leave the raft for an hour since there was a lightning storm''. They cut also seems alot longer than an hour. The video of the Barge also doesn't show any sort of storm or the Contestants being on this boat. It could just be a video of a production boat. Also we only see the top. There could very well be comfortable sleeping areas below deck and the contestants could have very well used said beds.
The 100 Day in confinement challange: Yes it is okay that they are not strangers, it is however wrong that they make it SEEM like they are Strangers. Again, manipulation
The People in the Circle video: Why didn't Mr Beast make an announcement that the video was cancled? In fact where is ANY response to the whole allegation on Mr beasts side? ( I retract this but will leave it in since I just saw the Twitter post you included in this video)
''He broke his NDA'' hurdur he is not trustworthy. You say to a statement where he even said ''Allledgedly they had people remote controlling the valves. Which if you think about it, of course they did. The evidence to it is for one in the video itself and as you said yourself neccesary for saftey reasons.
The signature: Call him stupid all you want but if I pay for a t-shirt signed by my favourite youtuber I would also like to have it signed by said youtuber and not one of his employeed. Imagine you have a signed Football from Tom Brady but now you find out it was signed by Mike the Janitor (Tom Brady said it's okay). I think this will devalue the Product a lot.
The Lottery: Is again being manipulativ. Putting it in the description you actually have to open and read is one thing. Saying ''Buy a shirt if you want x reward'' is another. It is also again something you have thrown shade at Weddle/Dogpack in this video before
''No doesn't mean no is taken out of context'' I'm sorry but how out of touch do you have to be to not see the problrm with putting that sentence in an official job education document for the company
So the censored person in the interview actually confirmes that the whole was faked to some degree, which again proves the point made by dogpack and further underlines the fact that Mr Beast is manipulating his footage
The Eye surgery claim: Okay so do you think that the company that made the claim that they didn't pay for it didn't try to contact Mr. Beast? Doesn't it seem odd that they only make the missing payment after someone made a controversial video about it, that gathered alot of attention to the topic? It does to me.
''We want to make the videos to appeal to an older audience'' yet they sell only chocolate and lunch packs, they use clickbaity titles and thumbnails, they lie about the conent of their videos (for example the ''abandoned'' city). ''We have to make the videos so a literal 1 year old can understand them'' So they DO cater their videos to children.
I am glad that you chose to report about the Lottery 1. It would have been an easy thing for you to not include it. Aswell as with the Coffeezilla Video, as it turns out, it was with the Brand name but not with Jimmy himself. One can believe that or not but it seems like Jimmy either has no clue what happens in his company or he does and he uses it for his benefit
I feel like there were alot of things that you were overly dramatic on and alot of stuff just seems like you pulled it out of your ass. Again Dogpack may not be a goodhearted individual but he said alot of things that stil hold up in my opinion.
i cant believe mr beast would just sit silent while dogpack ran rampant with defamation, either he was cooking up the best debunking video yet or he just truly didnt gaf
@@PlatinumSceptile I’d have to argue that it looks he did get it resolved for him thanks to guys like Nicholas and Soggy Cereal. So now he should thank them and be able to speak out on the mistakes he made and pay it all off. And though I understand your second point, that doesn't really help him and he'll have to take an L on that one. And finally, I hope you understand by him just mainly going about it, his numbers are down now. So yay you got money, but he just looks like a desperate idiot that wants us to forget it all after that tweet he made with a company he hired.
You're making a mistake with how you're treating MrBeast here. "MrBeast" hasn't been the type of channel that can just go off and make an apology video or a debunking video at any time. "MrBeast" is a production company. As a company, it has to run checks and investigations. It can't just say "we didn't do that, here's proof". They won't put out a debunking video ever, because doing so would be a deviation from the company's working model and likely would risk losing massive profit because of it.
Side note: this is why DanTDM's statement of "What have youtubers become" is complete BS. These aren't "youtubers" they're producers. They're the heads of companies. They aren't a one or two person operation in a basement.
@@theahmedbhatti1 for the first point, this isnt his first controversy, but this is the first controversy that isnt being resolved on its own. infact the only controversy he actually publically replied to was ava tyson. in every other controversy, except of course the current ones, the majority was taking his side so he had no reason to. so this is a first of this kind of controversy for him. for the other point about him releasing videos despite the controversy, mrbeast isnt just one guy. its a company. its alot of people jobs. and those people have to be paid somehow. if he just stops posting videos, alot of people besides him will also get affected. its a lose/lose situation for him. either he doesnt upload videos and risk losing respect of his employees and friends or he keeps uploading regardless.
id also further like to add, the entire company of mrbeast is in support of jimmy because they know the truth. theyre the small group that actually know exactly whats happening. and while they want him to speak up, they dont probably dont want him to pause his income flow.
@@PlatinumSceptile It's not his first time facing controversy. And he's been around this space and knows youtube very well. What people respect nowadays are someone who stands up for themselves not people who speak for them. The fact he's been acting robotic and just releasing videos like it isn't a big deal is quite a problem.
@@theahmedbhatti1 would you try to stand up for yourself if theres crazy allegations about you being a normal criminal, war criminal, fraud, and pdf among many other things? anyone in that situation would rather get some professionals to do the talking out of fear. mrbeast isnt a movie character who's character arc is learning bravery or whatever. mrbeast is human. humans feel fear. its in our instincts. and its there because in most situations being afraid keeps you safer.
@@PlatinumSceptile Well the whole backlash problem has been that he’s been hiding behind a company and representative statements and not standing up for himself and looking like a genuine person. He’s just lucky that Dawson is reactive instead of actually factual.
@@theahmedbhatti1 to put it simply, you can falsely incriminate yourself by saying stuff that can be interperated in a way which makes you seem incriminating. by not saying anything, like he was asked my the investigating company, he prevented the possibility of him accidentally adding more fuel to the burning allegation fire but saying something that was wording slightly wrong.
Most of his audience is just kids so the videos didn't really affect him but it made more sense to just stay quiet and pump out videos and products.
Some people think he's probably going to sue Dogpack but its more likely he just moves on since he will be 'mostly vindicated' in the eyes of big YT creators and regular people.
@@leontriestoart And he decides to just post the statement and not really say much himself after and we got a lot more evidence and explanation from what would be considered a small youtuber today. Good that Dogpack was exposed since he lied about what he presented, but there's still something fishy going on with Mr.Beast and he needs to clear it up.
Can we get a fat ahh round of applause for the amount of research and outreach this man does??
He had to be absolutely STEWING once he saw things not lining up. And he seems to LOVE a deep dive and just kept digging up more and more and then made sure he got outside perspectives and presented it with more journalistic integrity than most actual journalists when it comes to stories these big.
Some of that guys claims were a little...weird but I was willing to believe them initially because the one video I saw seemed moderately plausible. It's also really nice to know that they ARE mindful of safety on these sets because my god the amount of injuries that would have been buried if they didn't would bankrupt him.
I take everything with a grain of salt and I don't want to be someone who says they aren't judgemental but then only assumes the worst of people. I don't have proof of someone's personal character either way until I meet them. I'm still majorly critical of Jimmy in general as a massive attention seeking capitalist but I'm not about to get panini pressed over some lies told by someone with a compulsion disorder.
But seriously y'all this research and interviewing style is impeccable.
Like I said in my other comment: You don't have to make stuff up to dislike Jimmy or his team. He is ultimately a stranger and a brand. I still think he huffs his own farts to energize himself in the morning but like... I don't know that man. I just have a vague impression of him based on what he presents. And what he presents is a brand. I absolutely believe that there are problems within this company but the fact that I am so relieved to have sourced confirmation that most of the allegations are total bs. Not because I care about Jimmy or companies. But because that company is full of people who have jobs they love.
So if Soggy is actually down here reading these: I sincerely appreciate the amount of work you to do not only prove your point but that you backtracked and corrected previous statements up to the point of flying all the way to freaking North America and having literal interviews with people. Top tier work. Love your channel.
i admire soggy so much, he's genuinely my most trusted youtuber because you can just see the love and hardwork he puts into his videos, hard find nowadays
Spreading fake "positve" mr beast propoganda, funny how mrbeast cant comment on L I T E R A L L Y anything except Lunchly criticism from dantdm and this video. Weirddd...
some people re getting soggy's narrative as "mr beast = good good, dogpack = bad bad" while in reality it's more about eliing people not to believe dogpack blindly and mr beast has done some shite thigns which he should be called out for and give answers to.
@@Sachii-o2dthe guy literally says to go check out another YouTuber who posted a video about the crypto scam. Cause he doesn’t know fuck all about crypto
I know right watch 1:24:20 it was a mistake lmao Mr beast flown him half way across the planet for a group of Mr beast CURRENT EMPLOIES to talk trash about the guy who exposed them funny enough nobody said shit about the crypto scam other than that shallow mr beast didn't do it and trying to frame a third party. I wonder why Saggy didn't start with this part lmao. Also the youtube UI changes alot it was like that three mounths ago when dogpack404 made his video. Funny enough Mr beast always comment on the video he sponsored/colaborated with
@@slash4660Yeah, it just seems like that because Mr.Beast is capitalizing off of this video, by commenting and telling other YouTubers to react to it. For reference, watch Dylan Zitkus’s new video, where Mr.Beast tells him to watch this video.
I don’t even know what to believe anymore. What’s next, someone disproving everything that Soggy disproved? Who even knows at this point.. I know Soggy made a solid video, but that’s what we all thought about DogPack’s video when it came out…
I always thought some of dogpack's claims were a bit of a stretch but the insane amount of of allegations he put out and the repetition of those everywhere - having a source I already trust go over the situation in a way that is unbiased towards or against Mr Beast is really great and gathering actual evidence and researching into the little things shows commitment. Good job.
Bro don't be that guy with that warcrimes bit. It wasn't a warcrime, anyone who doesn't know that isn't smart enough to use google. You didn't need to harp on about it like it was another smoking gun, if he joked or he was serious, it doesn't change the story at all. The man was being kept awake with light, he wasn't happy about it, they thought they were entitled to keep him up with light since they were paying him. You either think you can punch someone in the face then pay them, or you don't, it's not a big deal.
Dogpack and Jake weddle both ran with the war crime seriously. Soggy outling it being a joke demostrates Dogpack malicious agenda, they're are not really talking about the war crime when they talk of the war crime bit actually how calculating and exgerating Dogpack is, to go aganist his creditability.
Things i think were missing from this are: - shadman picture on the wall confirming jimmy knew - rules in the lottery livestream were unclear jimmy said stuff like order in next 5 minutes to win and 7 minutes later hed say next 1 minute instead - mack winning in videos with 1 second on the clock seems disingenious
but these are just 3 things from dogpacks video that werent mentioned while most of it was disproven so i still like the video overall.
i feel like with the mack part he purposely slows down in order to make it seem closer. like if you can run 50 seconds 400m race. but you are given 60 seconds to run it. it would be "better for the video" if you did it in 59 seconds. you would try to run a bit slower in order to reach 59 sec. now he might of agreed to this before the video shoot my mrbeast or his team. also becuase it was possible he would be in several videos with several chances to make a lot of money.
i dont know why people believe youtubers like dogpack instead of doing there own reasearch are we seriously that dumb ?are we that naive to trust anyone?
War Crime? Bro I went to prison for drugs in my youth and got in a fight and was sent to Administrative Segregation. The lights stay on 24 hours a day, because using light doesn't actually prevent you from sleeping. btw I have been out of prison for 13 years and sober for 9. I WISH someone would pay me that much money a day to live in a box with the lights on all the time. Because I did it for 45 days in prison for free.
While there is no outright federal law stating that leaving the lights on in administrative segregation is illegal, it can be considered a form of cruel and unusual punishment under the Eighth Amendment if done continuously and without justification, depending on the circumstances and jurisdiction; meaning that an inmate could potentially file a lawsuit against a prison if they believe the constant light exposure is causing them undue harm. - From Google.
Notice the whole part about without justification? Well In prison, Guards have to be able to see your face at all times. Since they aren't allowed to enter an Ad Seg cell without cuffing you, that means they have to leave the lights on. Notice at the end how it says if it causes undue harm? Leaving the lights on is much more preferable than them waking me up every few hours for count by having to turn them on and that sudden light shocking me awake every hour or two, especially since I only had a soft mat to sleep on for 8 hours a night, I wouldn't want to lose a minute of those 8 hours to the lights suddenly blinding me.
Plus, It's easier to sleep with the lights on constantly than having them turn on and off every hour or two. Also, any jail you will go to will never have complete darkness every single cell I have ever been in has had at least a night light that stays on all night, due to having to be able to see the inmate's face because they have to count you on a regular basis. Nah, the lights being on isn't what was torture. How freezing cold they kept it and them taking my Sleeping Mat from me every morning at 4am and not giving it back until 8pm is what was torture. That said, I wasn't in day camp, I was in prison and worse than that I was in the Administrative Segregation block for fighting and tobacco (I forgot that's why it was 45 days I got 15 extra for failing a urinalysis for tobacco.)
you can sue for that. its still a human rights viloation and considered a form of torture if you dont do it willingly. light does actally mess up your cercadaim rythmn. if you have it on for 24 hours a day it can cause such sever sleep depvataion you can die. etheir that or you're just bulit diffrent.
@@droketheroper well he did state that he was advised by lawers not to make a statment. that could have resulted in situations becoming worse for him, so in fact it was moreso smart than cowardnice
although i would divide mrbeasts opposition and stop rational thinking completely contributing a bit to a "divide and conquer" ahh stategy (i didnt watch the video)
It truly is, you can just claim about everything on the internet and people will instantly believe it and it will absolutely stain your name for a very long time
I watched the whole video and there still one thing that really grosses me out but how you may have unintentionally may have painted Jake as malicious, you didn’t even go over his claims about the work place conditions he was placed in, when he was selected to be a contestant in the 100 day challenge.
he talked about how he couldn’t sleep because they had the lights on 24/7 on set, how the room smelled of fresh paint, the hot tub not having a proper filtration system so it would smell, another thing that made it impossible for him to sleep was how extremely noisy the ice cream machine was, not only that but he was pretty much pressured to stay there, not just for content but because he needed money.
His friend too gives icky vibes… trying to make Jake seem like he was overreacting over a joke and how it was outside factors that broke Jake... Instead of actually investigating the claims that jimmy may have had a shitty production set, he says he doesn’t want to deny what he went through but he just tried to undermined the trauma he went through.. again ever other point I do see some credit abilities but you didn’t even go over the toxic work place environment that was also happening on beast games (since that is what started everything)
@EvaFuji Do you ever trust what came out of dogpack mouth? To me, Dogpack404 is a giant incompetents, uncooperative, insubordinate, unempathetic, unanalytical individual who lies to millions of people, with evidences that are bare bones or just completely false with zero to none evidences to support his clames.
So yes. Dogpack404 is a massive liar that should be called out for his giant manipulative anties.
@@MonarchSCMC yeah i belive thats pretty accreate along with a active internal investigation accruing in his company, thus he really shouldn't be talking now but hopefully soon
@Zero-v9vv I don't think that Jimmy is scared, but instead making a proper response against Dogpack aligations while collecting evidence to support him from these aligations. or mybe he thinks that response to the situation would probably make it worse for him.
@@sammmmmmmmmmy thats the thing, what master plan could they have with that? not much right? so it wouldn't be too far-fetched for it to be made up by ai. again we don't know whos lying and whos not, all we know is both sides could be manipulating us so take everything with a grain of salt until further notice
How can you be sussed when the evidence shows he’s been wanting this job for awhile, ofc he would beg…like what master plan would they have of him with that…?
Hop off the meat already and do some research on the name of crist. Feastable is literally addressed in the video and it's not gambling... Go search the description of gambling for once ffs
@@gewnurb Didn't other brands do the same thing, like attaching a QR code to scan for a chance to win a prize or a bottle cap or something like that? I don't know the different between them and feastables at all.
@@LongGone2 I really, unfortunately, don't have the time to explain each and every unnecessary and defamatory nitpick he makes. One example is the way he hyperbolizes Jake Weddle comparing himself to r*** victims, except in the very screenshot he shows during that segment, you can see that Jake was speaking for all the victims/contestants of Beast/Beast games, and clearly just using the comparison as a way to say "please don't victim blame". Still, Soggy uses a common tactic implemented in politics to insinuate something that Jake never said (that being that he suffered as much as r*** victims). The RSO, Delaware, as I said before, was a major point in this video. Jake the Viking, his son in law, already admitted that Beast knew he was an RSO when hiring him. That info, which was revealed months ago, directly contradicts the narrative Soggy is trying to paint about Mr. Beast not knowing anything about Delaware being an RSO when hiring him. Being the trustworthy investigative journalist that Soggy is obviously trying to be, there's no way he would have missed that major detail.
Coffeezilla's video specifically does not make any hard allegations towards Mr. Beast, giving him a possible out in that his fund made those decisions and not he himself. Coffeezilla goes over this in his video. As such, it is a reasonably safe video to link to increase your credibility and cement the fact that you're not a "Mr. Beast glazer", when in reality the video does not commit to a hard stance that Beast couldn't make a sound argument against. To be clear, I think Coffeezilla's video is exceptional, and a gold standard for unbiased investigative journalism. Which is why it is abundantly clear to me that this video is not that.
@@shadowed69 But said points do matter. The main point of the video was NOT to just credit Mr.Beast and keep him into the limelight nor say he is a saint which he practically says himself, its mainly to remove all the un-credible accusations DOGPACK404 has been adding to the EXISTING allegations.
Also, for a video thats PAID by mr.beast, its weird add the end of the video or later down the video, he talks about coffezilla investigating mrbeast himself and his crypto stuff and suggets the viewer (us) to interact and watch it outselves. WHICH DIRECTLY DISCREDITS MR.BEAST. Wouldn't a paid person cut that out? no. Why? Because he is not payed nor is he trying to make Mr.Beast an entirely good person with this video. And im assumnig you watched it right? Please don't tell me you are doing this without all information please..
Bringing up stuff thats already obvious and thats been known BEFORE this video came out literally changes nothing about what the core point of this video was for. And there is no point to state the obvious, BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUS. him not saying "mr.beast knew about it all along" like every other drama covering (and possibly) slop is equivalent to me not telling you the grass is green. im not going to tell you that, because you know. I know. WE ALL KNOW. So why should I say the obvious?
Also, calling out someones lies is not exactly 15 minutes long. he cant just say "he lied about this!" he needs to get all evidence needed to make that claim therefore making the video even longer. Add that with multiple interviews, and ofc its not going to be 15 minutes. we need the context to make our own opinion.
It just sounds to me you are saying stuff for the sake of saying it either without context, maybe from ignorance or you genuinely believe thats the case.
@@vladimirkhazinski3725 I know dude, it's crazy. And I think my comments are started to be deleted now too. Yikes. God please don't let corruption win.
@@LongGone2 Except he focuses extremely hard on small points that don't matter, while re-writing critical narratives in Mr. Beast's favor. If this video was just focused on concise, legitmate criticisms of Dogpack, it could have been 15 minutes long. No mention of Beast knowing about Ava Kris Tyson's predatory behavior btw.
@@vladimirkhazinski3725 or its the fact that mrbeast is under other allegations that are true.
The main point of the video WASN'T to just defend Mr.Beast as he states himself. Mr.Beast still has done things and he knows that but the main point of the video was to disprove the FALSE claims dogpack404 was making because he had a spotlight.
NOT to just get paid by Mr.Beast. Even he knows some people would say that when he did not wanna be called an "A1 Mr.Beast Glazer" for looking at both ends of the drama.
This video is mrbeasts response. I cant believe no ones seeing through this. Its clear mrbeast himself will never make a video about it to give it publicity. This guy would never have access to mrbeast employees for this unless mrbeast himself put them up to it.
Because this is Mr. Beast. He was paid. Why do you think he's the first guy that's been able to interview current Mr. Beast employees? Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
How were you able to get interviews with so many MrBeast employees without any of them violating their NDA or risking their jobs?
Also, just because Jake Weddle signed up to do the challenge doesn’t mean that any of what MrBeast did was right or ok. Nor does it mean Jake asked or deserved to suffer with his mental and physical health during or after the fact.
@@BarneyisJehova The point is the people in this video are supportive of MrBeast. While it's clear that something is off with Dogpack404, it also seems off that Soggy had such easy access to people within MrBeast. This implys MrBeast knew this video was coming out and had something to gain even if the video was made to sound "neutral". I mean let's face it, how many are truly going to stick around until the end of a 1 hour video which is where the majority of the criticism against MrBeast is.
I'm just saying that just because Dogpack404 isn't as trustworthy as he made himself out to be doesn't mean we should automatically trust this creator, nor MrBeast.
If everything that has come out in the last few months is untrue then MrBeast should sue. But he won't because then search and discovery will need to be done. I'd like to be proven wrong, I really would. But there’s no way that this completely exonerated MrBeast. Some of the claims around Tyson (like Beast having the picture on the wall after Tyson left the apartment), BeastGames and working with Tony's (who have been taken off the slave-free list), thr crypto scam, lunchly, etc are still there.
So yeah, while Dogpack isn't to be trusted, he did help to open the door to other actual legitimate claims. Perhaps we should just stop putting celebs on a pedestal and start looking at them with a more critical eye.
@oldwellenthusiast8750 this is usually just a tactic MrBeast does a lot throughout his challenges to make it more interesting. Again, I still feel like there should be more clear communication between Jake and MrBeast, and the fact the guy compared himself to SA victims doesn't help his case at all
@@naganut9718 earlier comment was too rude so i deleted it. i think the jake stuff was real, considering mr beast directly apologized to him and tried to make it right and multiple employees were able to corroborate it, and the fact that every issue jake had they fixed for the next contestants. i think though it's a matter of pressure and unequal power dynamics. from what was said in the video he was talked into staying longer, waving the money in his face, even though he clearly wanted to get out. this is a mr beast defence video remember trying to paint him in the best light possible and still couldn't explain away jake's experience, whilst there's a lot of solid rebuttal to dogpack's video this is probably a time that mr beast really did screw up.
Jake could have walked out whenever he wanted. No one was forcing him to do anything. And eventually he did leave. The next solitary confinement videos Jimmy did had the contestants last the full 100 days easily. Jake is just a wimp.
I dont know why people think Rosanna was "manipulated". She is a grown woman and should know much better than she did being that she was on a higher level in the industry and should have much better PR training. She is just another person who saw an opportunity and jumped on it before doing any kind of research beforehand. She wasn't manipulated, she was wrong. I still have no clue why she got into this drama on the level that she did. So out of character for her and eventually it'll backfire.
Not really, just shows people will change their view when a video is longer then 10 minutes and a lot of self drawn conclusions disguised as facts. If you believed Dogpack or Soggy 100% then you're a fool.
I’d bet my life savings 99% of them are high school age and younger and have only just graduated from Roblox roleplay videos and are new to false allegations being made because that sh t has been happening for years now
Can't wait for the 59 different commentary videos on this and randomly changing sides and seeing comments going "aw-.. I can't believe dogpack would do this, I knew from the start he was suspicious"
Found you through chud logic and this a great video. Just a pro tip that ive picked up from watching some really good channels cover serious allegations and situations, when youre interviewing someone about a serious topic try not to use leading questions, you want to have them describe as much detail as possible so noone uses it as a line of attack to say you put words or ideas into their head for them. I only noticed it once when you asked Garret if he felt hurt, tricked, or deceived. A better approach would be to ask him how he felt after seeing Dogpack use him in his video without any knowledge that he was being recorded. From there, his response would likely be tricked and deceived, without you having to lead him to saying it. I subscribed, again great video!
watch everyone suddenly say "yeah i always suspected something was off about Dogpack404" or something along those lines, because they're smart and knew all along
Literally me. I have been getting mad in the comments section of dogpack’s videos from day one. Sorry for being pretentious but the people who genuinely believed dogpack really wanted an excuse to hate MrBeast without doing proper research
Mrbeasts charity isnt as clear cut as you think tho. Dogpack very clearly pointed out that teamseas worked with charities that understated the importance of corporate waste in the pollution of the oceans/rivers(which is the major factor) because its partners were said corporations. And if you think "so what, any work done is still work done", its incorrect because what they did is the equivalent of removing a seasame seed from a single burger out of a few 100. It was miniscule, and all they did was launder the companies' names while making sure none of the blame of those few 100 went on the companies
@@tanvirsourav83 Yes ik. U spend 30m on raising awarness of the cause of it, companies being greedy cus non recyclable plastic is cheaper than 100% recyclable aluminum, instead of partnering with charities that only exist to clean up their image and do nothing about the problem.
You also spend it on legally bribing politicians to increase regulations, so that there is a counter to companies bribing them to decrease regulations.
@gwop827 he actually did addressed both of the topic in his video, if U have watched it. And I don't really think U need to spend 30M to spread awareness as if it's some rare undiscovered news or something. Most ppl already knows abt such pollution but just won't do anything abt it. So removing 30M Pounds of waste is better
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl my point is it wasn't a lot less. It was barely anything. That 32m went to waste. Imagine if he spent that 32m use the legal mechanisms the US has to bribe politicians to increase the regulation on plastic polutions. You would be cutting it off at the source. It's basically the equivalent of manually moving the hand of a clock instead of fixing the clock
@@gwop827 So a 320M YT channel (80M then) bring the whole YT community together isn't spreading enough awareness? Do U think ppl would genuinely donate 30M to Mr.Beast for 'spreading awareness' and 'get the government'?
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl Sorry, i looked at the wrong statisitc
still right on the other stuff. All they did was make one video each, donate a bit of money, get other people to donate the rest, all for them to launder their image(greenwashing). Even if it was months worth of trash, over the timespan they did it it was replaced by a multiple trash
@@gwop827 So a 300M sub YT channel (80M back then) getting the whole community together to clean up the ocean isn't enough awareness??? Teaching young audiences to care abt the environment isn't good enough?...
I don't think u realise it but the responsibility of recycling the plastic or not littering is on the government and public customs then the company. I see 'Please recycle' advertising on Pepsi, Coca Cola, Kit Kat product, but guess what ... How many ppl r actually getting out of their way to actually recycle these things??
That's not even mentioning that the huge portion of pollution actually comes from underdeveloped counties from Asia or Africa where ppl can't give 2 faks abt littering.
Mr.Beast barely ever mentioned the name of the company, thus didn't promote their name much plus at the end it's not the company's image that matters, it's the work. Like bro if Coca Cola would get a bit of appreciation for cleaning up 30M pounds of waste out of the ocean, let it be... It's better than doing absolutely nothing
@@tanvirsourav83 The point is he doesnt mention coca cola, not pointing to the true problem. And yes he shud be criticized when he spends $30m on removing the statistically ignorable waste to launder his image instead of how it should actually be spent, which would be raising awareness on the issue so the people can get the government to put in regulations to reduce the waste. And coca cola gives the consumer no choice, because they and 2 other companies with the same practices own pretty much every single drink brand out there. You cannot tell people to escape the system they are in without existing in the system, that is the paradox. And if you look into how plastic is recycled, the actual benefits from it are very minimal. You dont do this when you actually care. You do this because you want to launder your image so people can defend you killing the environment in youtube comment sections
Any good work is in fact good work buddy. Comparing the contribution done by two dumb YouTubers to the pollution done by billions of ppl in the world??? What kind of comparison is that. Saying that removing 30M pounds of waste out of the ocean is nothing is statistically true but it's not their job but the government's job to remove it. So... If there r two influencers out there willing to take time out of their business and make a non profit organisation to inspire all the people including kids to clear the ocean and inspiring them to do such good work, what's wrong with that???
Plus Mr.Beast barely even mentioned the name 'Coca-Cola' in his video. U have to dive deep down to see who's actually helping. True Coca Cola causes the most plastic pollution... But it is also the company which recycles the most plastic. In fact the plastic pollution is actually done by the customer then the company itself.
not sure i trust this video any more than i trust dogpack's video. not only was this incredibly biased as you were personally attacked by dogpack, but the interview with the employee during the delaware section seemed not only untrustworthy and messy, but it had just as little evidence as dogpack's video. how can we confirm for sure that that was the employee being recorded? the way he spoke about how dogpack's video impacted him was very strange and very vague. this whole video screamed "im fishing for drama because i wanna be involved with this controversy so bad" rather than "im trying to do a good thing by spreading the truth"
If you're commenting on this video, do us all a favor and stay far, far away from a voting booth. But don't worry, this doesn't apply to me—I'm just a bored 15-year-old with zero voting rights and way too much time to stir the pot for fun.
You shouldn't trust this video because it isn't unbiased. It was made under Mr. Beast's approval.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
sad to see just how easily lots of people (including me) believed what dogpack was saying from the start despite not doing much research. Definitely a wakeup call. Let's hope this video gets a lot more popular soon
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
I am not a DogPack defender but you clearly can see how mad this guy got after the thing's DogPack said to him in dms, marking him as a bad person from start and working over exposing him (this video) which is just what DogPack did? We are following a same path here so let's see if there will be another person that calls his exposing the expose video fake too just like how they did to DogPack.
@@thecatinthehat125 I was going to originally write down a huge reply but who cares tbh, I don't care like all others. We trusted Dogpack very easily so we shouldn't do the same to Soggy that easily. Many comments say they did not look up anything and trust whoever says the last thing, and I agree. Everyone on the internet does some bad things but we don't know it until it gets exposed. I am not trusting people who even show "legit evidence" because like how Jake can lie, these employees will lie to save their boss too of course, lies will be made up to fix the reputation of one or another so most likely dogpack will do that too. We can trust no one on the internet, people should stop believing anything they see immediately.
But he’s right. Unlike DogPack who made up stuff, he’s debunking it with evidence. Yeah, DogPack made him mad, but so what? It’s different when you make claims to when you disprove them.
@@homoaspien he said he was frustrated seeing the hypocrisy of some people and their dissatisfaction over the results of it. Some of his other videos are better
@@zoomedcheese you chose the only video that he shows any emotion in 😭 I recommend literally any other video, that one was an outlier cause he was venting cuz of how vindicated he was
@@zoomedcheese the whole of watching a video is getting fact checked... Instead of focusing on a the video u r complaining abt the most unimportant thing in the video... Buddy lower your sound down, maybe???
DogPack is highly manipulative and brain rotting, it is a relief for shunky that the truth finally got exposed.
@ when I’m right about something I don’t usually scream at the top of the lungs. Also mrbeast paid someone to investigate him and they didn’t address all the allegations and some of things in the investigation were sketchy
@@zoomedcheese he made like dozens of video dissing on DogPack and u complaining abt that one video where he is clearly just showing signs of relief that he's right all alone? Maybe watch the other videos?
I’m physically not able to watch him. I tried to watch the mrbeast response video he made but I couldn’t last like a minute with him screaming into my ear
Yeah the fact that your flight to the US to make this video was funded by Mr Beast employees, makes you look just as untrustworthy! Don’t get me wrong I can see through Dogpacks lies but you’ve also cherry picked certain talking points whilst ignoring others. Unfortunately soggy, you’re now being biased as money is involved and you can’t be taken on face value either
i never believed the guy, some of his claims were just outright ridiculous. Like the CGI stuff. Even multi-billion companies can't make realistic enough cgi for the movies that they spend years on, there's no way MrBeast could do that for every video.
Congratulations Soggy, you just made the absolute best video essay of the year HANDS DOWN. Incredible research, great use of comedy, constant bombshells, and so much more. You pulled off a true content cop in the best ways possible, and I hope this video blows up and gets the respect and praise it rightfully deserves, as well as give DogPack his well-deserved downfall. You earned my sub with this one, nothing but respect to you and the effort it took to make this masterpiece. I'll be eagerly awaiting whatever else you do in the future, keep up the good work, you really made something special here. - Carly 💗
Imagine working so hard on a rocket for the biggest yt channel in the world, and then them being accused of it being 'digitally lifted' by some disgruntled employee. Man that would suck
I kinda knew something with dogpack was off. That doesn't mean I don't have my criticisms of Mr.Beast, but Dogpacks videos did always seem like he was not being honest.
This is insane, you're a relatively small channel posting extremely highly quality content with a straightforward and logical thought process. keep it up soggy!
i hate it so much when half of yall call Tyson “he” but the other half call “she” like can we please agree on ONLY ONE because the internet is polarized its SO PATHETIC AND SAD to see yall fighting over pronouns
I can answer most of that, firstly it isn't cp legally since it doesn't reference an actual real child (as in its a depiction of an identifiable child) and its a cartoon drawing so its not in any way indistinguishable from real child. Those are the only 2 ways that drawings can fall into the "CP" category afaik (could differ from state to state but at least federally it largely isn't like that cuz it falls under the first amendment). There's also considering this was 2016, shadman who was the artist of it was known as a "internet boogeyman" in a kinda comedic way since he was known to draw that type of stuff for a lot of things. You can not like that people were ok with him back then, but you have to also consider the time and that was that most people were hangin with shadman.
About the sleepdeprivation part: I feel like it is not ethical to pay someone to be tortured. Now, maybe that didn't happen, I'm just saying, paying someone to be waterboarded would cause outrage, even if they could decide to stop at any time. Now, these two aren't exactly the same, but if both count as torture, I would say the ethical argument could be made.
@@naganut9718 I'm sorry I should have been more concise. In the specific case of Jake Weddle, he was the main predecessor of turmoil rather than Mrbeast. However, I still think it's highly unethical in a lot of conventional sense. Situations aren't black and white; Jake Weddle could have exploited and contorted the truth, and Mrbeast still used money as a means of unethical practice. I agree that the mental health part should have been clarified, and his specific situation was questionable at best. However, he shouldn't even distribute those practices at all. You can be saying to yourself, "But it's consensual; people are ecstatic to go on Mrbeast challenges," However, I don't believe that's a good use of one's influence. Imagine getting a call from your favourite YouTuber inviting you to come onto his video. It does not matter what type of video it is; you would most likely take the chance. People who get invited by Mr. Beast are so blinded by the prospect of being affiliated with their favourite channel that they don't understand or consider the multitude of sufferings it can cause. It's even more contorted considering if they do question it, they would most likely input their trust in his long catalogue of sleep deprivation or isolation. I don't believe that there is enough time or balance to consider it a fair choice made by the subscribers. Ignoring the power imbalance, someone in desperate need of that money isn't in the situation to decline that offer. It's not even a quick risk, it's long term isolation and deprivation of society that can really leave long term effects on the wrong people, at best being excruciating while the time you're in there. Can we stop acting like Mrbeast doesn't have the choice to stop making those videos? There are so much more alternatives but he willingly produces harmful content to appeal to the media's fascination of long term deterioration. Also, can you please tell me why my argument isn't "good"? I understand if my argument was from a narrow point of view, however I'm not exactly fond of people dismissing something based on instinct and monition
@@naganut9718 I'm sorry I should have been more concise. In the specific case of Jake Weddle, he was the main predecessor of turmoil rather than Mrbeast. However, I still think it's highly unethical in a lot of conventional sense. Situations aren't black and white; Jake Weddle could have exploited and contorted the truth, and Mrbeast still used money as a means of unethical practice. I agree that the mental health part should have been clarified, and his specific situation was questionable at best. However, he shouldn't even distribute those practices at all. You can be saying to yourself, "But it's consensual; people are ecstatic to go on Mrbeast challenges," However, I don't believe that's a good use of one's influence. Imagine getting a call from your favourite YouTuber inviting you to come onto his video. It does not matter what type of video it is; you would most likely take the chance. People who get invited by Mr. Beast are so blinded by the prospect of being affiliated with their favourite channel that they don't understand or consider the multitude of sufferings it can cause. It's even more contorted considering if they do question it, they would most likely input their trust in his long catalogue of sleep deprivation or isolation. I don't believe that there is enough time or balance to consider it a fair choice made by the subscribers. Ignoring the power imbalance, someone in desperate need of that money isn't in the situation to decline that offer. It's not even a quick risk, it's long term isolation and deprivation of society that can really leave long term effects on the wrong people, at best being excruciating while the time you're in there. Can we stop acting like Mrbeast doesn't have the choice to stop making those videos? There are so much more alternatives but he willingly produces harmful content to appeal to the media's fascination of long term deterioration. Also, can you please tell me why my argument isn't "good"? I understand if my argument was from a narrow point of view, however I'm not exactly fond of people dismissing something based on instinct and monition
@@naganut9718alright so what if I told you I’ll hit you with a hammer in the leg and you will get one billion dollars. Are you doing it? Most people would say yes, because that type of money is life changing and can pay all your financial bills. There’s also peer pressure and the fact that people usually do things for money that they wouldn’t otherwise.
@@Dang.-you can say this about MrBeast challenges, and I don't think it's a good argument. You could argue MrBeast should be more clear with the challenge, but its also Jake's fault for not being clear about his own mental health problem, and the fact he should've accept the terms going in. Your arguments is the one I've seen against the video and I just personally don't think its a good argument at all
@@officialmonarchmusicI feel like at a certain point, it's your own fault. You should've been clear about your anxiety and mental health problem going into the challenge, and accept the terms going in
@@bobbysan693please, no. Who provided sleep deprivation in the first place? While I do agree it's not completely Mr. Beasts ' fault, liability still lies on his shoulders. There was trust built and an obvious power difference. If that doesn't say a lot, your perspective is also a part of the problem. Using "he could have left" is the sole base of defending that practice, even though it's so obvious that there were so many factors of guile that shaped the choice. There are so many other ways to distribute entertainment using money, not exploiting one's health for entertainment with the sole justification of "money!"
@@bobbysan693 he was an employee so there definitely was a pressure to just do the video or risk backlash by Mr beast. Also just because he could leave doesn't mean the whole situation was ok, why not just improve his condition.
Not to mention the marathon. That could have KILLED Jake. It's annoying how this video thinks exposing dogpack for having bad intentions somehow exonerates MrBeast
@@rileygray9573 Sure. So could the contestants in Squid Game. But they were so desperate for money that they were literally willing to die for it. Whether or not Jake had a choice, he was heavily compelled and taken advantage of, almost killed as well. There is something disgusting about heavily compelling a person to do things that could damage them forever by taking advantage of their poverty
@@David-bh1rn it is a free choice no one is pressuring him to do it people literally walked in and asked him if hes ok so its his fault for prioritizing money over his health
@InsightfulGear Bruh, I’m 15 and in school—this is just entertainment for me, plain and simple. Also, yeah, I explained myself because, I mean, I have autism, so maybe, just maybe, that has something to do with it.
@@jayv3n_n ok well if that was your motive then why explain yourself In a serious way or at all. It kind of ruins your whole “trolling persona” 💀 it kinda makes me think you weren’t trolling at all If you’re taking it seriously, even tho you were implying you weren’t 💀
@@InsightfulGear It’s pretty obvious I’m just here to troll or instigate, right? Like, when someone instantly roasts someone else and then veers off into some completely unrelated topic, it’s clear I’m just being ignorant on purpose. I’m really just here to watch people lose it for my own entertainment—it’s not that deep.
@@jayv3n_n did you seriously just tell this person to do something productive with their life just to immediately list off animes to watch instead 💀 “stop frying your brain with these YouTube videos” you’re literally watching the video too, and care enough to comment about it 💀
@@Shxealyn"Is this the only answer you have?" Man, shut the hell up and actually do something productive with your life. Better yet, stop frying your brain with these YouTube videos and go watch some real content—something funny. Watch anime, read Chainsaw Man. Part one is pure gold; Denji, Aki, and Power are the ultimate trio. And if you dare say Chainsaw Man is bad, I might just do something unspeakable that I legally can't put into words here.
He literally pointed out that Ava thought that photo was of a minor and shared it anyway, showing that she is even worse than we thought. He made it very clear Ava is a terrible person.
i'm glad someone’s finally calling out dogpack.. everyone was blindly believing whatever nonsense he spewed in his videos without a shred of evidence to back it up. I was genuinely confused why on earth were his words being taken so seriously?
as a previous follower, i didnt believe some of what he said. I found him to be fishy but i guess i believed him because i thought it was easier to. I mean, mrbeast was not responding to any allegations. I waited for his response but there was nothing so i jumped on the hate train.
now that this video came out i finally realize that i should definitely be focusing on my life rather than youtube drama. I dont give a shit anymore, i feel like everyone is lying now. Im not gonna side with anyone atp.
@chelsthegameruiner8669 I believed Dogpack404 and I'm neither of them. I used to think that MrBeast is a best person even though I'm not a fan nor watched his videos. I don't know who Dogpack even is or what he does, he just appeared randomly on my recommendation and never thought about his evidence because I thought he made enough evidence.
In short, I'm not an investigator. No clue how investigating works and debunked the evidence 🤷
To be fair, most people who blindly believe him were either:
A.) Disgruntled former employees B.) Terminally online Twitter users C.) People salty they lost a competition D.) People who became relevant because of the drama
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As a former follower after watching his video or this video, I do agree with what he says, and when you look over it, it kind of hard the back up with so much overwhelming evidence say MrBeast is the best guy with everything the crypto stuff and I did also he wasn’t everything through another guy posted several videos which you can see in this video Pegasus I’m gonna get into more details is watching this video. He has some more clear image and also was here to be exposed so I mostly trust him but he’s not lying. What am I saying? Most likely it all true with so much evidence I believe it’s true and how fast everyone count around MrBeast and hating him and a lot of my fear creators who I personally see as being very truthful backed up, shows how scum people can be.
This video contains more journalistic work than every other YouTube channel that milked this drama to death combined. Dude even flew out to meet with current employees at the company and interview them personally. Soggy is the goat.
I honestly lost respect for Rosanna after this... Especially after her last mishap with Mr Beast it feels like she's just accusing Mr Beast and Ava because of a personal vendetta
It "feels" like she's just accusing mrbeast and ava because of a personal vendetta?.... No she fucking is doing this because of a personal vendetta, there is no 'feels".
I think the Chris Tyson situation is the cause of all the DogPack BS. When he saw the allegations, he IMMEDIATELY capitalized on it by making further claims on MrBeast. And people were also more likely to believe it. Personally, as I saw his videos, I immediately recognized them as generic slop content, but many others didn't...
How much Beast paid you? Do you think someone else besides Beast signing the T-shirt doesn't devalue it for a person who bought it and thought otherwise?
@@Keeb_the_mofI’ve watched the video and to me Soggy cherry picked a hand full of the original claims and led the audience to believe that he’d discredited them all with his check list at the end. Soggy also hasn’t provided his source for the firing audio which leaves it open to AI accusations and I find that to be sloppy and hypocritical.
I’ve also heard Soggy himself say that a mr beast employee (Dustin) paid for his plane ticket to the US for their interview. This is no longer an unbiased video.
Dog pack is clearly disgruntled over his termination, Jake clearly needs therapy but Soggy is also not being completely transparent either and is presenting things in an attempt to manipulate the audience (the check list is a great example of this)
Celebrities these days feels like Among Us-a majority of them have done something sinister, nobody knows who, and they’re all pointing fingers at each other
ahhh, the ammount of hate I got under Oompas interview about the second video when I said "you keep on talking about evidence but all I hear is 'allegedly' when speaking about life ruining allegations". thanks, I feel vindicated. And I feel your position, I'm also on the side of healthy center - logan/ksi collab is the thing that made me unsub from Beast, not all the trash spewed by a disgruntled employee.
imagine waking up to a beautifull day outside.. birds are singing flowers are blooming and you see your neighbor wearing a cop outfit and he is checking the trash bag
Rosana Pansino says that she’s in her journalism era, yet she is arguably the worst journalist of our time. You, a non-college-educated individual, have provided us with better journalism than an individual who claims to have studied it in college. Good job!
@ I want to conclude with this. While he calls dogpack404 a liar, evil, etc, etc. Everything dogpack has done doesn’t hold a candle to what Mr.Beast did.
1. Dogpack lied to attack Mr.Beast (fact) 1. Mr.Beast lied to MILLIONS of children for monetary gain. (Fact)
2. He assumes Dogpack404 did the video for monetary gain (an baseless assumption) because he did collabs LOL. 2. Mr.Beast promotes gambling, illegal lottery, unhealthy snacks, and materialism TO MILLIONS OF CHILDREN for monetary gain (fact)
3. Dogpack404 fabricated things about locoya and other people involved (dogpack mentions multiple times his findings aren’t conclusive) 3. MR.Beast lies about him knowing about Ava, due to discord chats, telegram chats, and the SHADMAN poster he had on his wall. (Fact).
Basically anything he calls dogpack404 in this video. Mr.beast had done 1000x worse because of Mr.Beasts reach and his audience. So you can’t judge them on equal grounds.
If a store clerk lies about the price of an item it isn’t comparable to a CEO or President lying about the price of a trade, stock, item, etc.
The fact he makes it seem that dogpack is worse than Mr.Beast is absolutely LAUGHABLE.
@ just watch the video. Everytime Mr.beast does something bad he judges it based of “legality” and NOT morally.
When dogpack404 does something bad he judges him legally and morally.
The whole videos is a hitpiece on dogpack404 with a few acknowledgments of illegal doings of Mr.Beast. But only in a pathetic attempt to seem “impartial”.
He even goes as far as to say Mr.Beast just needs to be more transparent as if everything else is okay and he can be redeemed.
He does not share this sentiment with dogpack. Whom he not only criticizes but ATTACKS, and doesn’t give him any redeemable qualities or benefit of the doubt to.
He basically stuck ONLY to facts when it came to Mr.Beast and didn’t draw any conclusions on his character.
He did not stick only to facts when it came to dogpack. Instead he attacked his character. Which was the goal of the video. The goal of the video is to drag dogpack’s credibility down. And he successfully did that. Hardly “impartial”.
@ he didnt hesitate to assume many things about dogpack and to call him every name under the sun. He shouldve stayed impartial but even went as far as to dig into his subreddit and paint him as horribly as possible.
He interviewed Mr.Beast employees whom are clearly biased and painted their view as fact. He even makes jokes about dogpack and laughs at him multiple times.
He ignores Mr.Beast involvement with the child grooming discord chats. Yeah thats a big deal.
Mr.beast claimed his chocolate candy was healthy and had limited ingredients. Then changed them. That’s evil.
Mr.beast did illegal lotteries and promotes lifelong damaging gambling to kids at a young age. Thats evil.
Mr.beast had someone else do his signature on sweaters and he glossed over it. Just mentioned that it was “legal” and didn’t question the morality of it.
He also conveniently didn’t mention that when Mr.Beast didn’t pay the organization of doctors, that it took DOGPACKS video and peoples criticism of Mr.Beast for his team to finally see it and reimburse them.
@ look at his summary of both of them at the end of the video. He hesitates to draw any conclusion or to call mrbeast any name.
Its clear.
. While he calls dogpack404 a liar, evil, etc, etc. Everything dogpack has done doesn’t hold a candle to what Mr.Beast did.
1. Dogpack lied to attack Mr.Beast 1. Mr.Beast lied to MILLIONS of children for monetary gain.
2. He assumes Dogpack404 did it for monetary gain (an baseless assumption) 2. Mr.Beast promotes gambling, illegal lottery, unhealthy snacks, and materialism TO CHILDREN for monetary gain (fa
@Vicky-bk7gf the children that are getting "exploited" are normally doing fun and harmless challenges, while there being a chance of getting money.
He did talk about lunchly, even if for like 2 seconds he still said it was a bad thing.
Unless I'm missing other discord chats he did talk about it.
I never knew about him changing the ingredients, so I have to search about it, and normally it shouldn't be a bad thing, unless he didn't put the ingredients on the wrap.
There could be some bias, but these accusations are a lot and pretty much life changing, so I see why he would call someone evil because of them
@ reread my comment. I watched the whole video. He avoided many of mrbeast allegations, avoided calling mrbeast a liar for changing the ingredients on the candybar. Didnt talk about lunchly. Didnt talk about the Discord Chats with Ava. And in the end he left calling Mr.beast evil upto the viewer.
Yet he does not hesitate to call dogpack evil, a liar, a scumbag, and every name in the book. It doesnt take a genius to see an obvious bias here
To top it off, he gives a pass to Mr.beast exploiting children for money but draws the line with dogpack attacking mrbeast.
I like how you debunked a lot of dogpacks accusations while not saying mrbeast hasnt done anything shaddy at all (i believe there is some but i havent researched hard enough but those things arent covered by dogpack mostly) but im holding a little hope that mrbeast is a somewhat decent guy despite everything
Have you watched the video yet? He literally recommends coffeezilla's mrbeast crypto scam video, not to mention he literally calls out some of the shit jimmy did. He literally said the first illegal lottery was actually illegal.
seeing the comments that say stuff like “both of them are bad then!” really disappoints me ts isn’t a fairytale. there’s no “jedi vs sith” thing to this. dogpack isn’t a good guy, mr. beast isn’t a good guy, hell soggy isn’t a good guy either. but none of them are strictly good or bad. that’s the thing about internet drama nowadays people are so quick to point out who’s right and who’s wrong they forget that the people involved in said drama are.. people. humans with flaws.
The worst part is that this could easily derail and mess up any real legal case that Mr. Beast could get into. Sloppy handling has messed up legal cases before like the EDP445 case. I truly believe that there were safety violations on some of the sets especially the Squid Game (non-YouTuber version) set. If Dogpack and Rosanna kept talking about evidence with proof like the workplace violations it would be fine but it seems like they just kept upping the allegations for clicks. They were dragging it out because those videos are insanely popular and go viral every time. The only other thing I agree with is calling out Ava and the weirdos.
based on what I'm seeing before I watch, this seems pretty suspicious, mr beast's team had avidly avoided making any response to the heavy hitting accusations and has only put out the most corporate responses, but somehow mr beast responded to this and you got interviews with direct employees? suspicious.
Hopefully you watch the video. Soggy's points have pretty bullet proof evidence. The Beast employees could be biased, but I trust them over the anonymous sources Dawson used who were all wrong about everything lmao
@avalope no it'd be less suspicious if these interviews happened with other people, but mr beasts team wont give anybody else the satisfaction of even a real answer, if they had responded to both coffeezilla and soggy cereal id understand it, but frankly this to me just looks like 1. Soggy cereal isnt a credible source, and 2. Mr beast is undoubtedly guilty (theres no other reason to aid a coffeezilla investigation, eapecially when he disagreed with a lot of what was accused about crypto scams)
@@nineexists6621So since he got actual interviews with employees with permission from the people interviewed. Doesn't it make sense that he would more likely get to the truth of the situation. Would this video be less suspicious if he recorded employees without thier permission and put a voice changer of it? How do you make "unsuspicious" reporting?
@JulieWooly-pn6tx would it though? Its ome of the irrefutable pieces of evidence while also being one of the lesser evils, admitting that while discrediting the guy who made all the allegations in the long run makes it seem less true too.
What I don't understand is, well ok we have another youtuber defending MrBeast but.... If the majority of the allegations are false then why couldn't MrBeast himself address it if he really wasn't guilty of any of these. It really could've all been avoided so easily without him losing subscribers for instance.
Its a bad idea in general, first MrBeast publicly talking about would put it into the eyes of his child audience, second why take the blow when it hasnt really hurt you, his sub count has only gone up and it doesnt look like its going down any time soon
Not defending MrBeast, just playing Devil's Advocate
It's crazy how much effort you put into this and all the interviews and stuff you conducted to make sure you were getting the full truth. This rocks. Thank you Soggy
@@droketheroper He literally said that hiring him was wrong, he was an RSO and regardless of his age at the time, Jimmy should be held accountable for his actions (5:28). Being critical of the other side doesn't mean you are biased. Considering the fact he was criticizing Mr. Beast as well, calling the first lottery illegal, makes him more unbiased than most other people covering this topic.
Also, if someone lies about the origins of someone's name because they were banned from entering a state (Which is incorrect), that absolutely makes you less believable and trustworthy about everything else you say after that
That's cute but he glossed over the whole Delaware thing (who was proven to be an RSO by Jake the Viking) by saying "durr the origins of the name are a lie". That alone makes the rest of the video suspect to bias.
Actual summary: Jimmy gets cleared of 99% of allegations but he still hasn't responded to 1% so he must still be evil and we have learned nothing from all this
And those who watched the video and don't blindly fall for the fallacy of appealing to emotion technique :) Most of you people are probably too young to even know what that is.
Emotion is temporarily, the internet lasts forever. Once the emotion passes we'll see from there and what comes out/what was true and what wasn't. I'm VERY curious about that "audio" WITH ZERO VETTED SOURCES. Jake literally proved in this video at the time how easy it is to create and manipulate audio with AI. If said audio was indeed in existence why wasn't it used from the very start? I find it hard to believe Mr beast would be forced to hire crisis lawyers and using shady tactics when he could've used that gatcha from the start.
I still don't know what the full truth is, but Mr beast is a bad person regardless of the situation in the end-- he doesn't need to be a mafia boss to be a shitty person.
Learn to use your brains properly people, I beg of you-- out there in your daily life you're on your own usually, being able to use your brain logically will save you so many headaches. People lie, people are shitty, people will try to gaslight you, learn to see the red flags.
The world is never black or white, plenty of interconnecting colors out there, and not all those colors are ones you can trust.
As far as I'm concerned, if MrBeast wasn't guilty, why was he deleting comments on his videos, trying to hide evidence, and discussions? Someone who's innocent, and can prove that innocence, doesn't try to hide accusations, because they know it can be disproven.
@@LongGone2 Honestly though, it's so baffling that so many people think that this video is supposed to vindicate Mr. Beast when what it primarily shows is that dogpack404 is untrustworthy. Anything else is just a cherry on top.
@@DermotBrophy Both that and the fact stupidity floods the comments. You can move down and probably see 3-5 comments that have clearly either not watched the video, or are missing context. (Or possibly just plain stupid.)
The point of the video wasn't to just say Mr.Beast hasn't done things, (because he has) the main point was dogpack was throwing some baseless and boneless claims at Mr.Beast that basically weren't true but were taken as gospel. Main reason soggy knew he was also possibly going to be labeled an "A1 Mr.Beast Glazer".
Make no mistake. Mr.Beast has still done things and is possibly doing stuff we don't know right now.
The only thing that interested me was the accusations about MrBeast breaking the law with his lottery etc. All the stuff about faking videos and interviewing crying ex-workers who got paid a ton of money was W E A K
Yes but he confirmed it wasnt cp after the video was posted so when he still thought ivanka ws 13, he was in possesion rossana used it in her thumbnail but ltr blurred it and he never mention ava alleged it
I went into this video thinking i wouldn't agree because so many have made the affirming video's but I am shocked at how well you disproved so much of dog packs lies...i truly hope that more people see the lies as what they are. You are right that you cannot hold someone accountable for the things they have done wrong without first getting thru the rumors and lies.. And when people spread rumors and lies like this on purpose it invalidates the true crimes of the person. Thank you for this video.. I am now subscribed:)
@@thetacticalguy62 so she didn’t go on Nicks live stream while he was exposing the group chat leaks from Dogpack were edited and left out dates of messages, she didn’t go on that livestream to call Nick a Mrbeast employee and say Nicks daddy is keemstar? she didn’t sperg out when being exposed? sounds and looks like she definitely knew Dogpack and herself misconstrued the group chat messages leaving out dates and editing messages
@@ysmc2752defamation, he and the rest of his group took screenshots of group chats while knowing and purposefully being malicious using those screenshots, editing them, or using testimonies of employees that were joking it’s all defamation and if you can’t realize that then sorry buddy you were the mark and it worked
@@CamNuggetswow so you just proved you watched this video by commenting, you going to address any of it or slither back under your rock hoping your audience won’t watch it?
Not defending dog pack or Mr beast but the Delaware thing is confusing why where they hiding his face what of Jake the Viking why did target call him Delaware there too many situations that Is confusing
Delaware wore a mask in that video and one video only, he appeared in other MrBeast videos outside of the one he wore a mask in and cam be seen without one, idk exactly why he wore one in that vid tho.
It's not hiding his face. He was just wearing a mask. I have watched a lot of video of Mr.Beast from years ago. Delaware was fine without the mask Infront of the camera
most definitely the majority of the comments saying this video is "baseless" or just "its a bunch of allegations to disprove the allegations" either didn't watch the video due to dog packs brainwashing or are cherry picking claims. And don't consider this comment glaze like I agree with soggy but we can all admit he could have gotten a thing or two wrong. Its just more wrong to disprove an entire video based on one claim
This video only gets 300k views while dogpack's "exposing" video gets 10M+ views... Shows how much people want to see the biggest youtuber on the planet to fall off. "I knew it this guy was bad all along! His smiles are so fake" -🤓
It's weird why Mr. Beast hasn't responded to these allegations when you, one guy, were able to disprove most of the allegations. It would be even easier because Mr. Beast has the receipts.
Well, I know something that is definitely factual, it’s that Soggy Cereal makes dogsh1t videos that nobody genuinely likes. It’s just so obvious that Soggy Cereal is in the wrong here. Also, reply to me if you’re homophobic, racist, ableist, transphobic, and xenophobic
Yet when DogPack tried pressuring Soggy into making a video against MrBeast, nobody called out DogPack for it. You Dogboy glazers gotta stop being so disingenuous like wtf.
Bouta finish the vid what im confused by is that they discredited the “war crimes” statement because “it was originally said as a joke” but they didn’t prove the war crimes didn’t happen ie lights being kept on 24 hours a day long term sleep deprivation or even mention Mr beast making jake weddle do a treadmill marathon for a minute long insert into the challenge vid which left his body in shambles I could have watched wrong but to me it just seems like the excuse was “lmao bro coulda left he allowed it to happen to himself” which is a sh*tty take EDIT: stop splitting hairs about the term war crime the horrible things still occurred what its referenced as is completely irrelevant the horrible things that happened were not properly addressed or falsified
@@Amlink So many replies here have been hidden or is it just mine? The more I try to get silenced, the more my opinion gets reinforced. Either Y-T or this channel are not proving I'm lying, they're proving they fear what I may say
The video does not say nothing bad happened in that situation in fact he speaks to Dustin who validates Jake's experience. The fact that Weddle can leave is not used as an excuse it is used to show that calling it warcrime is false because you can't consentually agree to have a warcrime done to you.
@@Literallyryangosling777 Comments where most of them are shadow-🍌-ned, like in Beast videos. Nobody remembers the full PR damage control where they actively removed ANY negative or critical comment?
At the end of the day, the beast licker can keep defending their idol and enjoying him, I just know I used to believe him and will never watch his videos knowing they're staged. If millions of kids keep watching him, bad for them, they will eventually grow up or Beast will make an oopsie (letting karma do its job)
Exactly, People here will be like "oh no im not gonna believe what dogpack says blindly" and then believe what this dude says blindly, they just need to see the comments and if they are suporting the video they will also suport him, just following what the crowd says
you were 100% hired by mr. beast. yes you criticized him too, but only accepted the minor things so as the make him look just oblivious. when he is a big problem and youre just here for a paycheck.
"uh... yeah I agreed with dogpack first and just because he criticized his reasons (with no one criticizing soggy yet) I hate this guy. also I dont watch mrbeast lol"
@@Lacewise it's funny, right:) the guy who sells star dust is not capable of paying some YT to do interviews with his employees to fix his picture. He has one the best team of people around him + unlimited funds. People are just blind.
@@Matthias_Livessomeone at Mr. Beast paid for his flight. Why can’t you guys just admit you jumped the gun and got taken for a ride by a billionaire? It’s surely not the first time.
Soggy provided receipts and neither he nor I like Mr. Beast all that much but the truth is the truth. You can dislike someone without slandering them it is common sense
Think it's just what happened during the behind the scene of Beast game but I know it wasn't all of Jimmy's control, he hired many people to make it happen but he still should of focused on Safety.
Id say the lack of paying the eye doctor charity until AFTER it became a large controversy is the worst. It's not evil though, just a sign that they're criminally irresponsible
This is literally trying to move between serious allegations finding things to slam the messenger for things that have nothing to do with them. Painting a kid who collected things available mostly in the public records that are unjust and scummy as the bad guy, and the billion dollars gambling, junk-food empire for children as the good, innocent guy. Here are some things that MrBeast needs to worry about instead of DogPack:
- An ex employee whom, years ago, mentioned he would often cuss and scream at him.
- His employee faking his signature for tshirts. - Inviting a Youtuber to eventually win $500,000 in a competition for which he has pocketed millions by selling products to people who also wanted a chance to participate. - Promoting gambling, unhealthy foods as good and "healthy" for children. - Deception for things like giving his employee a car as a gift while he was roleplaying as one of the random participants. - Constantly lying that his video are "real" and that he puts all his profits back into his videos.
- Gifting random gifts sent out by fans to other fans as lottery tickets for his gambling. - Including massive destruciton and littering, throwing food around, plates full of food around, sitting on giant cakes to ruin them, creating a ton of videos promoting waste and destruction.
- Faking parts of his philanthropy videos.
Points like "Talking about this hurts the donations" and "There are people dying of wars so you shouldn't mention what happened to you" are extremely narcissistic, manipulative remarks. If we go by them, Jeffrey Epstein should have never been prosecuted, Bill Gates should have never been investigated because they were into donations too.
I appreciate every part of this video EXCEPT the part on Jake Weddle. (The one concession I'll give is the AI recording video, that was unethical and bad practice.) Jake was very explicit when saying that because he was really poor it felt like a hostage situation - he's emotionally bound to stay even though he could technically "just leave" because the money he'd be leaving behind is life-changing. I don't think it's incorrect to compare that to the dynamics of SA. Abusive power dynamics keep people in very traumatising situations despite the option of "just say no" or "just leave" being on the table. I felt like you completely missed the point in that section, but the rest of the video was well done.
This comment is so insane lmao, you are comparing an optional challenge to abusers?
Jake is an adult. There is no way for him to guarantee getting that money, this was after all a contest. Saying he was "emotionally bound" is just him being immature and naive. Do you say the same for people who are addicted to the lottery and spend all their money on that for life changing money? No, you call them stupid.
And then you compare this shit to abuse like just fuck off. Abuse has no upsides, you gain nothing from it besides pain and sadness. Comparing that to a challenge to get life changing money, where you can literally leave at any time, with paramedics and safety on standby is just so fucking stupid.
Jake Weddle got paid $10k a day for the challenge despite failing, praised Mr Beast after it then changed his tune when people turned on Mr Beast (AND GOT PAID AGAIN)
He only had $50k in student debt. He could have left after just 5 days but insisted on staying. He ended up making over $100k doing no work, blew it all on flights to comedy shows and weed (he says as much himself in his first video), and now still needs handouts from Jimmy to pay off his debt. Dude is pathetic.
@@officialmonarchmusic do you think shows like alone where people live by themselves for at times months is exploitative? Where there are plenty more dangers. Its no different then real life jobs where people put themselves on the line for money. Military, first responders, pilots,logging workers, etc.
@@avalopeIt’s one thing to only do challenges with financially secure individuals. It’s another to make the contents of the challenge something extremely damaging to the health of the competitors. I’m not saying Squid Game is literally the same thing as Weddle’s confinement, but my point is, where do we draw the line? I do at long term health risks or death risks, which were definitely present in the solitary challenge. I also do just generally think this type of game show is exploitative and people should generally not do it
@@officialmonarchmusic man vs man deathmatch is a lot different than man vs self. And now should mrbeast only do challenges with financially secure individuals? to avoid accidently having a poor person be emotionally bound to stay.
nah its 10% morepegasus videos incoming 50% I KNEW THAT DOGPACK404 WAS A SCUMBAG 40% Yeah this is absolutely paid by beast and soggy is just a pathetic sellout
Same thing for the 100 boys v girls accusation. If the employees in the video were there to fill in people who tested positive for COVID. If you claimed they were random people but then they weren’t random because some people had covid then that DOEN’T mean that the video wasn’t fake it just means that there was a good reason to fake the video. Which does NOT mean that it wasn’t fake
this might be mr beast's response lol, dogpack said a lot of bull, but this soggy guy is avoiding criticizing mr beast when he's obviously not a saint either, it's framed as an unbiased video but it's quite one sided. he had a lot of insider info and contacts (like the interviews), and avoided obvious problems with the beast channel, also tried to make dogpack look like a lunatic , some real KGB stuff
@shadowed69 YouTube is literally forbidding me from posting my response. I censored half the words, when there already wasn't a singe remotely offensive word. I'm so awfully sick of attempting to communicate with people on this terrible platform.
In short, I think it's best for us all to focus on what we can truly interpret and prove, leave speculation in the background. Not a lot of benefit comes from focusing on the unproven and unproveable, generally!
@shadowed69 (Cens0ring to a huge degree bc I'm not allowed to post) It does fully c0me d0wn to c0nspiracy caused by b1as though, that's important to realize even while you are c0mmitted to believing it. There is no ev1dence for that, yet you see it as possible and that leads you to thinking of it as more likely than not. It is inherently not 0bjective and is largely ill0gical, when there is no ev1dence backing it, only a l*ck of things dispr0ving it.
I find it very unlikely he was br1bed by Mr. Be*st, he has had his own chann3l making videos for a l0ng time now, and this is not the first time he is being recognized; he was already reasonably "popular" (for a small Y0uTuber). Sab0taging all that to take a br1be is not impossible, but certainly not the most likely thing for someone to do. And for AI, well there's really no back1ng to that. It's good to be cautious of things, but being too "cautious" leads often to dep@rtures from reality and cl1nging to c0nspiracy. Anything that happens can now be attributed to AI (not really usually, but people think that way and soon will be reality), or someone being p*id off, so it's an easy concept to jump to, and people usually st1ck to those bel1efs and other such things without needing ev1dence. Real sl1ppery slope. I find it best to just focus on what we can see, interpret through facts and real logic, and leave the specul@tion to not be focused on. We can realize there are other possibilities, but to f1xate on the unknown and unpr0ven over what is pr0vable is danger0us. Logic and truth, that's what matters. Not a lot to benefit from when you go beyond that. (If you got this far, thank you for reading through that mess)
(Cens0ring bc del3ted) It does fully come down to c0nspiracy caused by b1as though, that's important to realize even while you are committed to believing it. There is no evidence for that, yet you see it as possible and that leads you to thinking of it as more likely than not. It is inherently not objective and is largely ill0gical, when there is no evidence backing it, only a lack of things disproving it.
I find it very unlikely he was br1bed by Mr. Beast, he has had his own channel making videos for a long time now, and this is not the first time he is being recognized; he was already reasonably "popular" (for a small YouTuber). Sab0taging all that to take a bribe is not impossible, but certainly not the most likely thing for someone to do. And for AI, well there's really no backing to that. It's good to be cautious of things, but being too "cautious" leads often to departures from reality and clinging to c0nspiracy. Anything that happens can now be attributed to AI (not really usually, but people think that way and soon will be reality), or someone being paid off, so it's an easy concept to jump to, and people usually stick to those beliefs and other such things without needing evidence. Real slippery slope. I find it best to just focus on what we can see, interpret through facts and real logic, and leave the speculation to not be focused on. We can realize there are other possibilities, but to fixate on the unknown and unproven over what is provable is danger0us. Logic and truth, that's what matters. Not a lot to benefit from when you go beyond that.
@shadowed69 (cens0ring bc deleted) It does fully come down to c0nspiracy caused by bias though, that's important to realize even while you are committed to believing it. There is no evidence for that, yet you see it as possible and that leads you to thinking of it as more likely than not. It is inherently not objective and is largely illogical, when there is no evidence backing it, only a lack of things disproving it.
I find it very unlikely he was bribed by Mr. Beast, he has had his own channel making videos for a long time now, and this is not the first time he is being recognized; he was already reasonably "popular" (for a small YouTuber). Sabotaging all that to take a bribe is not impossible, but certainly not the most likely thing for someone to do. And for AI, well there's really no backing to that. It's good to be cautious of things, but being too "cautious" leads often to departures from reality and clinging to c0nspiracy. Anything that happens can now be attributed to AI (not really usually, but people think that way and soon will be reality), or someone being paid off, so it's an easy concept to jump to, and people usually stick to those beliefs and other such things without needing evidence. Real slippery slope. I find it best to just focus on what we can see, interpret through facts and real logic, and leave the speculation to not be focused on. We can realize there are other possibilities, but to fixate on the unknown and unproven over what is provable is dangerous. Logic and truth, that's what matters. Not a lot to benefit from when you go beyond that.
@ratondolce I definitely agree with the "facts board," it was clearly skewed in my eyes when all but 1 (that doesn't even really have to do with dogpack) are marked as false. That is definitely rigging it to support his side better. While it doesn't prove lies, it does show a non-objective and manipulative presentation of information. There is obviously bias, with this and other aspects. Everyone is biased, it's usually truly difficult to be unbiased in an approach, but he certainly could have made it much more fair and objective, yes.
I still disagree with the notion that this is some 50/50 dogpack and Mr beast video. It really is a dogpack video in my eyes, I think that is the full intent. He approaches dogpack's claims and talks about Mr beast in countering dogpack. It is not a video that focuses on who Mr. Beast is as it's own topic, just a sub topic of talking about Dogpack.
@shadowed69 It does fully come down to conspiracy caused by bias though, that's important to realize even while you are committed to believing it. There is no evidence for that, yet you see it as possible and that leads you to thinking of it as more likely than not. It is inherently not objective and is largely illogical, when there is no evidence backing it, only a lack of things disproving it.
I find it very unlikely he was bribed by Mr. Beast, he has had his own channel making videos for a long time now, and this is not the first time he is being recognized; he was already reasonably "popular" (for a small YouTuber). Sabotaging all that to take a bribe is not impossible, but certainly not the most likely thing for someone to do. And for AI, well there's really no backing to that. It's good to be cautious of things, but being too "cautious" leads often to departures from reality and clinging to conspiracy. Anything that happens can now be attributed to AI (not really usually, but people think that way and soon will be reality), or someone being paid off, so it's an easy concept to jump to, and people usually stick to those beliefs and other such things without needing evidence. Real slippery slope. I find it best to just focus on what we can see, interpret through facts and real logic, and leave the speculation to not be focused on. We can realize there are other possibilities, but to fixate on the unknown and unproven over what is provable is dangerous. Logic and truth, that's what matters. Not a lot to benefit from when you go beyond that.
@@Walrus101 yeah you are correct about out my phrasing, most of his evidence is not twisted, but as shadowed69 user has put it, and what i also meant to say was that he skewed the whole board in his favor, the premise of ALL(or most) the claims are skewed and nitpicked, he framed most counter-arguments in his/beasts favor even when some of dogpacks accusations weren't entirely false/ or were more a question of morality. otherwise he was being either overly vague or focusing on irrelevant aspects to disprove dogpack whislt ignoring the wrongdoings of mrbeast. if this is a clarification video, shouldn't it go both ways and be UNBIASED?
(eg. mack situation-no proof, kris tyson situation-he focused on dogpacks false accusations, warcrime situation-"it was initially a joke", employee interview-they claim that they dont use predatory tactics)- -do any of these disprove nepotism, kris tyson being a weirdo and beast knowing, jake weddle being emotionally scarred whilst partaking from pressure to gain fame/monetary reasons, should we take the employees word about them not using unethical engagement tactics cuz they said "no" ? the answer is NO,
soggy disprove some or most of dogpacks falsified and nitpicked evidence, but ignores the other side of the coin which is Mr Beast
that is dishonest and one sided to me! mr beast is clearly not a good person either.
@@Walrus101 I appreciate it. If this wasn't a youtube comment section, and instead my own YT video I made in response, I would be much more objective with my responses. I'm throwing out these ideas because too many people are blindly believing this guy, and I'm scared of what that means for our society's ability to recognize and fight back corruption. Mr. Beast has had enough provable claims at this point that he should not be forgiven, should not be idolized, and should not have a platform. I want to make sure people don't forget that. I truly believe that he commandeered this video to save his reputation. If that's true, and it's working the way that it is, we are all in a lot of trouble as a whole. Jake Weddle already received an incredibly convincing AI generated video of Mr. Beast propaganda. He made a video on it. A normal person would not be able to tell that it was fake unless the idea was proposed to them. That is why I am making that claim about this video. It doesn't make any sense why we are just hearing this recording now, when it is most convenient. This technology exists, unfortunately, and the motivation to abuse it is there. I wish I could believe that I am just being conspiratorial.
@shadowed69 I wrote a reply to you, you may not have noticed because you were writing this message at the same time.
I do want to point out something that you should be careful of in yourself, is that you are taking the approach of being very objective and opposing anything that isn't 100% on board or provable, but you have made multiple conspiracy theories with no actual evidence. You should be careful to stick to logic in your own mind, not claim AI conversations and him being literally paid off by Mr. Beast when there is 0 evidence for that. And when you are making your argument to someone else, your emphasis on truth and logic will be undermined by your own departures from fair analysis.
@@Walrus101 idk what points you're trying to make here, but the guy you're replying to said it better than I did so I'm also gonna second that. But to be clear, Dogpack is a bad journalist. Some criticism of how he's handled this situation is deserved. This guy (Soggy) is not trying to constructively criticize Dogpack, he is trying to destroy his character and disassemble every single accusation he made that he can reasonably get away with. He only criticized Mr. Beast on the easy, soft things that would be stupid to try to disprove, because then everyone would know he's just been paid by Beast to make this video.
@@shadowed69 I'm sure he skewed the video in his favor with the "claims board" yes, that was clear to me. When you put up 20+ things and say all of them are false (except one that doesn't even really have to do with Dogpack at this point), it's clear there are details being left out which were not able to be disproven, or some were picked apart/changed a bit to be more easily called wrong. I think AI accusation is a bit ridiculous without any evidence. He has shown he has these sources. Dogpack could easily disprove it or argue against it at least. For "Delaware," he knew the guy had a history but Delaware made an explanation? I didn't know about that, but if so, he probably simply believed it. Anyone could and he was very young too. I really don't understand any argument being made that he would knowingly hire a RSO. Whether Mr. Beast is an angel or a money hungry conman, he would never in 1000 years want to do that. It would only cause him risk for no reasonable benefit accounting.
I never see anyone online create a 100% bulletproof argument. Everyone is fueled by bias and can skew things because of that. So yes, this video isn't perfect, and people shouldn't blindly listen to everything, but it's a good expose on Dogpack, who everyone blindly believed when it was obvious he was manipulating, because people wanted to believe him. I was one of the ONLY people calling out his manipulation in his original video/s while everyone blindly took what they were fed. This video is important, and certainly seems more right than wrong.
@@ratondolce I don't even need to read the rest of your message to know you're heavily biased (but I will) when you say that literally ALL of his his points are twisted. That absolutely is not true at all. You seem to want it to be that way.
It doesn't matter what the title is, the theme and intent of the video is clear from the content. He isn't weighing both or doing arguments on both, he is countering Dogpack points while saying some things from Mr. Beast are off in the process.
I don't see any real evidence that Soggy is being dishonest or that his arguments are affected heavily by bias. I'm sure he has a bias, that is likely from his countering all but 1 of Dogpack's points (1 that people agree on regardless of Dogpack) but most of what he says is legitimate and provable/sound arguments. You are saying he is dishonest, when I feel like you should be saying you don't think his argument is 100% provable.
I don't even really understand the "warcrimes" issue and seems silly. For CGI, he disproved claims of CGI and it CGI manipulating things; the intent was never to say there is no CGI, right? The address makes sense to not give info on, but of course you can't take him saying he has the info as absolute fact. Don't think he said anything against Mr. Beast and child psychology?
@@Walrus101 No, I think many things in this video are biased and manipulative. I can't copy paste a giant message like that explaining everything without getting banned. I made my own comment with more explanations if you can find it. attempted summary: -aggressive, nitpicky defamation of dogpack. fills the board with "all of dogpack's claims" (that is not anywhere near all of them, and many claims are only cherry-picked portions that he can X out so it looks like he disproved everything form dogpack by the end -way to much focus on small points that he frames as terrible awful things (like yeah, obviously it wasn't literally a warcrime. what happened to Jake was still fucked up??) -convenient recording of Dogpack's termination that's only showing up now for some reason. almost as if it didnt exist before and this is AI. -convenient interviews of current Mr. Beast employees that support their narrative despite no other journalist getting the chance to do that up until this point. -plenty more but i have a life and cannot keep explaining to people why they need to question the weird things that manipulative people like this guy do instead of blindly believing him
As far as Occam's razor, it's because he believed the guy's story. And it's certainly possible that Delaware truly didn't commit the crime and just took a plea deal. However, subjecting your child audience to that risk is a WHOLLY irresponsible and disgusting thing to do, no matter how good his story sounded. Mr. Beast "was young and dumb" except his more mature mother also approved it. Then he hid is face in a vid years later under a mask, knowing exactly how much of a problem it could be that he had Delaware in that video.
@@Walrus101 the topic is "the truth about mrbeast & dogpack404", not "disproving everything dogpack said"
all of his claims are twisted or nitpicked in one way or another. he’s trying to deliberately disprove them instead of looking at them from an unbiased perspective. he’s already made up his mind, creating his own counter-accusations, and is just trying to prove those instead of being fully transparent. the whole thing feels pretty suspicious to me.
take jake weddle’s suffering, for instance. he had “was it a war crime” or something along those lines on the board and then claimed that the “war crime” part was just a joke. but technically, even if it was said as a joke, that doesn’t mean it couldn’t still be true. does that make jake’s suffering any less real?
then there’s soggy’s response to the “mack” situation: “mack lived at a fellow editor’s house. i have the documents, but i can’t show you—trust me.” that’s pretty much all he says to dismiss the entire mack story.
beast might’ve gotten rid of delaware, but he definitely kept lacoya in the company even after knowing about his actions or criminal cases.
kris tyson: there are hundreds of be real discord messages proving that mrbeast was aware of tyson’s servers and behavior.
then there’s the “child psychology” issue. it’s clearly still a harmful practice, even if dogpack partook in it/ the employees insists it’s “for all ages.” “all ages” obviously includes children—and probably more than “just includes” in a pretty deliberate way.
many beast videos use CGI or are doctored for dramatic effect. is that a problem? that’s up to you as the viewer. but soggy didn’t actually disprove dogpack’s claims; he just nitpicked a few cases where CGI represented the actual thing, or where footage was slightly doctored instead of outright fake.
he did criticize mrbeast but only slightly. the whole thing seems like a constant attack and denigration of dogpacks character, and his dishonest and exaggerated accusations about mr beast based on barely any evidence. meanwhile soggy’s counter-accusations mostly rely on a couple of message testimonies and interviews from (weirdly enough) current mrbeast employees. whilst up to this date there has been absolutely no official statement or response issued by the Beast team/ company/ the man himself till now (them being real careful with their response).So it feels like the employees have all been PR-trained on exactly what to say (or not say). mrbeast isn’t some saint, either.
dogpack was dishonest, but so was this soggy guy! trust no one!
@@shadowed69 This is 100% where Occam's Razor needs to be pulled out.
WHY would he knowingly hire a RSO? That would bring huge controversy to him and loss of income and create problems. WHY would he? The guy is just so desirable to the brand that he is willing to do it? I'm sure that can't be the case.
Do you have any explanation for why he would knowingly do that? You do have any proof it was known before hiring?
And are you defending Dogpack, or just contesting this one thing? You think Soggy--according to you--rewriting one detail makes this illegitimate and Dogpack honest? Or what's up?
@@Walrus101 He straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
Nice conspiracy theory that he is an agent of Mr. Beast lmao... Where do random allegations like that get us? Certainly not conducive to true and honest thought and discussion...
The purpose of his video is to discredit Dogpack for his lies, he doesn't need to "criticize mr beast" when that would distract from the topic.
@@shadowed69he literally said mrbeast should take responsibility for the mistake he made and even cut the music and answered with a clear "YES"🤦🏾♂️ bru yall are actually so baffling to listen to
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
its funny how this genuine and factual video gets less views because he isnt clickbaiting and spreading interesting lies like dogpack is love the video man
How you're downplaying the Jake Weddle stuff is bad. So what if the warcrimes comment is a joke? It was still abuse and severe mistreatement! Makes me not want to watch the rest of this, Weddle is still a victim and it's gross how much you're trying to downplay that.
@@gernil6216 I read your longer message that starts with "Again, not everyone is perfect", I hope that was the message you intended to send, youtube comments are so annoying with stuff like that so I get you lol
@@m0nkeywrench hmm yeah an interesting situation, I just checked what challenge did he go through, but didn't know the whole situation beforehand, I don't spend much exploring on the allegations like these to worth my own time in my life. Unfortunately, this means Soggy didn't consider this part, but also is very hard to notice among all other allegations presented in the internet to disprove. But like also then, how can you trust such individual when he himself tells his side of the story while aiming to DEFAME Mrbeast with dawson?
I dugged through their replies and comment, like the comment Dogpack404 made on Jakeweddle's "i caught Jimmy in a secret recording" video, it made me disgusted what he and jake said. That apparently jake 'deserves' the $190k (which now we know he's a complete deceptive liar about mrbeast, considering this, what they said 'deserve' what intended for the opposite reason, money) He said "I think you should get the full $190k. Jimmy privately offering you money to "make things right" is a clear admission of guilt. I hope you get all the money you deserve though and then some more." and jake also pushes his support in confirming his 'guilt' which he said "I appreciate you dude. Yes, he admitted guilt. THATS the real thing we are all over looking here 😏". And you know what Jake did with the 50k money? Watch Lerix's video on Jake Weddle video over 1 minute, where the irony in what he uses that money was shown and spends for his personal gains rather than he claimed to spend it on 'his bills'. You should know now he doesn't care as much, knows the truth but the intention of defaming mrbeast and getting money, the stories he narrates can be exxagerated and fabricated like "he was sitting on a chair and turning around like an evil villian." or "deep blisters under my foot". Although considering the past challenges traumatic enough, consider tho Jimmy's team are likely less experienced to perceive the actual dangerous level of risk in this kind of specific challenge, despite the risk being clouded by the seemingly visually fine environment, his people can't know the inside perspective of jake undergoing this challenge. We people can't go in the past, informing past self the mistakes, the complete risks being fully unaware, etc. especially for other things jimmy has done like the first illegal lottery which almost no one in that time including the crew knew it was illegal. And you also know how Jake likes to get himself money? Well he has such reasons why he partook these challenges, the treadmill one, the solitary confinement, all for possibly the money, getting to the point where he doesn't i guess mentally embraces staying the longest time for more money, instead of being strategic with how to be sane or simply leave if it was too much. Could be that maybe his greediness made him so desperate with using a poor approach on how to stay long, up to the point where mental capacity was at its limit (while jimmy's team are inexperienced for running these challenges) finally gave up, seemingly jimmy and the crew didn't saw how traumatic it was for him with maybe an expression broken enough not to express emotion. I assumed maybe 11 days was too short for a mrbeast 100 day video and the second mrbeast contestant was qualified to succeed the challenge. Well, this proves overall his situation, some are not in actuality when there are these mentioned possibilities, to consider the idea what may have happened. I don't think it's his fault having to end up in a malicious position due to the nature of this world and nature of people, now jake unfortunately sucks as a scumbag.
Now if you read the entire thing, you could see some negligence upon reading them, that I may not see myself, which is an important point I want to emphasis
@@gernil6216 I get where you're coming from, when I say he has 0 nuance in his take I'm talking about the Weddle situation specifically, alot of the video does a good job and yeah props to Soggy for not being one of those shitty drama-bait channels that come out with the most sensationalist stuff without backing it up. It just rubbed me the wrong way when he dismissed the Weddle situation as just a dude volunteering for a challenge where he had a complete free choice to leave, because it doesn't take into account the peer pressure, the monetary pressure, the pressure of the work environement, the team around him downplaying the extreme nature of the challenge (this is stuff that was said in the interview by Jake, how he says people were saying 'oh it's just gonna be like a fun vacation' to get him to do it) and the clear lack of any safety precautions & lack of professional standards in a potentially very dangerous challenge.
@@m0nkeywrench Again, not everyone is perfect, including their takes on situation. Even I don't understand what the word "nuance" is and what is considered nuanced. And I don't also understand what criticisms you are referring to, dojn't understand how actual 'downplay' in your definition was visually shown, as you saw what downplay was acted through, but other people me or even soggy cereal wouldn't even see the downplay. How can this be indicative and naturally be clearly concerning for other people to know (which they have different perspective) from what you're currently understanding? and do they really matter to these perhaps small instances? Do some of the criticisms you saw could affect the victims if downplayed? Not so easy, even Soggy cereal himself completely believed the 'concerning' statement of Camnugget at 32:32 that he 'watching minors b*tthole' when he was actually reporting the mods to a minor doing that in a discord, and soggy in twitter dumbly thought his phrasing in actuality and said "i think you'd notify a mod that a minor is showing explicit bodyparts on cam in a more... serious manner". Thankfully, he did remove that misinformation and covering cam's false implication expressed in the video which is which you can't see such statement i provide in the timestamp. No one is perfect to be ashamed of having such dismissing belief or action or thought or anything.
@@AaronSmith-rm9kl I'd argue that most people would break under those circumstances, but yeah agreed, having a medical team and some sort of psychology professional would have been the bare minimum for such an extreme challenge.
@@AaronSmith-rm9kl Agreed that is kinda over the top, but I'm getting tired of Weddle being held to the standard of "perfect victim", especially considering when he says that in the interview you can clearly see he's reliving some trauma while talking about it, like the nervous laughs and jokes & being on the verge of tears, so it's understandable that he wouldn't be 100% clear with his words.
@@gernil6216 Yeah I agree that Dogpack needs to be held to a higher standard and investigated for his false accusations, but this video goes way too far the other direction where he downplays alot of the legit critisisms aswell. I'm tired of Youtubers having 0 nuance in their takes, you know?
@@CloudDirected Except those shows (at least the non-scummy ones) inform their contestants in a non biased manner of the severity and possible health implications of the challenges, they have medical teams on standby in case of an injury, they have proper contracts, and are generally WAY more professional than MrBeast. Like seriously, say the producers of Survivor or whatever were constantly pressuring the contestants like "Ohh man if you quit now that's all this money wasted on the TV show!" That would rightfully be called out as scummy, and I'd call out any reality show that did that. (And I absolutely despise the TV shows that have done this kinda shit) And it's clear in the interview that the people around Weddle were constantly downplaying the severity of the challenge, selling it to him as a "fun vacation with an ice cream machine and stuff!". Again, imagine if a legit TV show did this. It would rightfully be a scandal. I agree that these sorts of extreme challenges are ok to do for entertainement, but it needs to be WAY more professional than how it was handled with Weddle.
@@intothevoid9831 Stop clutching your pearls at my mention of abusive relationships, I wasn't implying it was on the same level of severity as them, I was using it as a comparison to show how outside influences and pressures can distort that "free choice" into a coersive and manipulative one.
Because he's doing this video for MrBeast while lying about being impartial. If you can't see that this video is a thinly veiled MrBeast meatride glazefest, then you're blind. All of the top comments are pro MrBeast and pro-this vid. You've got to scroll a bit before the impartiality appears. I'm not saying that DogPack was 100% accurate, but it was much more accurate than this video is making it look. This is video is damage control and an attack from MrBeast and his fans are lapping it up without admitting it.
Not everyone is perfect and knows all the right ways of addressing or expression, or knows all the right perspectives over the unknown. The point of this video is Dogpack404's massive slander, and it's now clear he's lying in most of the case.
Said it once and I'll say it again. What Beast did was no different than what Reality TV shows such as Survivor, Fear Factor, Dog Eat Dog, and Jackass have done. You suffer for money. If you're gonna cancel Beast, go ahead and cancel those Reality TV shows. Nobody has complained about them for decades. It's only when Beast does it that everyone gets up in arms.
@@m0nkeywrenchcomparing an intentionally tough challenge for good cash to toxic relationship is a real bad faith argument. The guy was also still gonna collect the money he accumulated even if he left, and was even offered money after the challenge
He is not a victim lmfao he consensually agreed to participate in a challenge and was paid 10k a day to do so, and was free to quit or stop at any time. Also, comparing a mr beast challenge to an abusive relationship is incredibly bad faith, these things are not even remotely comparable. Totally distorting the scenario here.
@@godartz3064 I'm using it as a comparison to show how there are coersive elements around that so called "free choice" that influence your decisions. And to ignore the fact that Jake was an employee, was struggling financially and everyone around him in the company egged him on is such a scummy reductive take. Like if you've worked any job ever, you know exactly the feeling Jake expressed in his interview. And all the clowns saying "just leave bro" are clearly either children who have never worked a day in their life or extremely priviledged adults who don't now what it's like to have crippling expenses & actually NEED money & a job to survive.
@ not really it’s not the same your in a challenge where u are getting paid the point of a challenge is to be challenging if you can’t handle it simply leave challenge excuse me if I don’t feel sympathy for someone who is getting paid thousands of dollars for a challenge he can literally leave any time vs someone in a relationship with someone who they believe have their best interests in heart taking advantage of them it’s not the same thing don’t try to compare them to make your argument sound better
im 100% anti mr beast, 99% is because hes rich and im poor. I like seeing the other side of things tho, thank you for this video
Edit: im an hour into the video now, i am still anti mr beast for the same reason...me being a poor...but my opinion on dogpack has changed for sure. again, thank you for this video. i always knew there was more to the story, and lots of things in his videos seemed fishy and i questioned it.
Cool and all, but the very first two things are literally just you straw manning the claims.
Sure, maybe Delaware wasn't a p3do, but you know who was? Ava Kris Tyson. You don't just buy from and promote someone who is famous for making "graphics" of l0lis. You don't just hang up that art in your living room and say, "Beautiful masterpiece!" And as for Mr. Beast, him being friends with someone like Tyson while also running a family friendly YouTube channel is completely contradictory.
Then as for the war crimes, you're missing the point that Weddle was still forced to do unspeakable things (such as running a marathon and being blinded by lights 24/7). Just because "It's not a war crime!" Doesn't make it right. Especially for someone like Mr. Beast, who is known for being an 'awesome stand up dude'.
@@intothevoid9831 Mr Beast knew for a LONG time and only removed Ava once the cat was actually out of the bag and everyone knew. There's multiple points of evidence for this, but the most solid piece of evidence showing Mr Beast knew was the picture of the l0li literally hung up in Mr Beast's own living room.
And as for Weddle, you're right, he wasn't literally forced to do the things, but Weddle himself explains with how everything was going and how the situation was, he felt obligated to do those things. And he literally asked for the lights to be turned off, to which he was flat out denied approval to.
The video starts with one of Mr.Beast's manager saying Dawson was ruining the company's reputation... Couldn't he find someone a little bit less biased?
I agree with you that dogpack is definitely untrustworthy and has been spreading lies and allegations against Mr. Beast hoping one of them lands to discredit him.
However, I see that you then use the SAME TACTICS that dogpack did by spreading allegations against dogpack to discredit him.
Which is why I find you very hypocritical.
This is seen clearly with interviewing his coworker. She said that when working with dogpack he kept things "cordial and professional", but then accuses him of making her "uncomfortable". However, I notice that you cut out the clip of what she said afterwards, which I wonder why. She then says dogpack gave her "weird vibes", but doesn't elaborate further at all. This leads me to believe that she is purposely trying to make Dawson seem like a creep to discredit him. Perhaps being told by management to do this.
Also, it is clear to me that you are also on board with discrediting Dogpack. I say this bc you then asked her about "any weird stories about things Dogpack did" which the coworker then called about him saying some food is s***. First of all, why is this relevant to Dogpacks' accusations and the video? Secondly, why should us viewers care about what food Dogpack *allegedly, used profanity for? How does this contribute to the video, it is just irrelevant to the discussion? It seems like a very dirty attempt to make him look bad for something that has NOTHING to do with the video.
You accuse Dogpack of spreading malicious lies against Mr. Beast, when Lo and Behold, you then DO THE SAME THING by asking for rumors about Dogpack and showing it to millions of people.
Lastly, I want to say that while Dustin felt bad for Jake and what Jake went through definitely wasn't a war crime- IT WAS STILL UNETHICAL AND UNACCEPTABLE. And Dustin and Mr. Beast still have not taken responsibility for the abuse he went through. In fact, in this video Dustin BLAMED Jake for not being cut out for the challenge, instead of the unethical practices.
Like how on Earth can u say Jake wasn't the right person for the video when NO HUMAN BEING can run a marathon while being sleep deprived and starved due to bad caretaking? Dustin deflects all blame on Mr.Beast for the conditions Jake went through.
This video shows me that Dogpack cannot be trusted, but you can't be either.
Employees are the most trustworthy source we have, we can't know if they lie or not, it's impossible. Unlike dogpack who has been proven to manipulate and make false allegations and therefore isn't trustworthy, dogpack also didn't wait for research to finish unlike soggy
youre onto nothing lil bro lol, the probably only and biggest fumble soggy did in the video you didnt catch because as soon as he realized his mistake he removed it from the video unlike DogPack that kept the false video up for like a month. The rest of the BS youre ranting about, if it was relevant enough im pretty sure he would address it, stop reaching
UPDATE: More Pegasus was planning to interview MrBeast online, but MrBeast dodged it in the last minute according to More Pegasus’ recent new community post.
Good job this is why you take these types of allegations with a grain of salt. Especially if the person worked there for only a month and openly admitted he was a disgruntled employee in his video.
Not to mention Jimmy still hasn't released his side of the story, but I guess now he doesn't really have to since legal action is already in the works. But I had no idea he was a Mr. Beast fanboy prior to becoming an employee. Now it kinda makes a bit more sense why he's going after him and not monetizing any of it. It's just petty revenge cause he got fired.
If you're going to include an interview with someone and are trying to present it as impartial, then you need to not ask leading questions. All of the questions you asked were yes or no questions. None of the statements being made (starting at 7:00) came out of Garrett's mouth, they came out of yours. This is a really poor way to frame questions and makes it sound like you're feeding him a narrative.
For instance, instead of asking "So was the entire call basically just rumors you were talking about with a friend?", the way to ask a proper question would be "How would you characterize that call?" You need to let him explain the answer, instead of doing it for him within the question itself. I was getting flashbacks to JAR "interviewing" Synnibear with every question you asked him.
Whole lot of character assassination and not much substance against the claims he makes, your evidence for debunking claims is “trust me bro”, or look at this current employee working for Mr beast, surely they won’t have a reason to lie.
@@arielperez3613 I'm waiting for her response to defend her puppy against Soggy. It's going to be a blast, like the Nicholas DeOrio livestream meltdown.
I don't really care about Dogpack's character or motivations, what is much more compelling is the rot in a billion dollar institution like Mr.Beast and the platform that enables and relies on him.
@@g_ggle-sect. probably to see which accusations were true, considering how extreme some of them were (not defending mr breast, no way that guy has a skeleton-less closet)
Yeah I do agree with a lot of points in this video but I don’t like how he downplayed the whole Jake weddle situation. Even if he agreed to it it’s still bad because MrBeast was exploiting his desperation for money for entertainment .
Didn’t even watch 6 mins of the video and I already wanna take back my previous comments from soggy’s last video. This is extremely well made and I am known for being quite gullible and believing a lot of stuff on the internet. Maybe I have to stop worshipping YouTubers thinking they’re nice people. 😅
Edit: just finished the entire video. And wow. Just wow.
The problem with having nearly all the world's information at our fingertips is people have become so lazy to search if something if something said is true.
The takeaway from this is that MrBeast, as a top channel, uses classic tricks to squeeze attention and money out of its audience (that's what it takes to stay in top youtube), but is careful to remain as ethical and legal as possible. Although Jimmy has made some questionable decisions and mistakes, Dogpack is a manipulative asshole who cherry-picks "evidence" so he can push his opinions onto others, under the fake authority of having insider information as an ex-Beast employee
@@tobiasbayer4866 it's a prison challenge, not a luxurious day spa challenge. What do you expect from maximum security challenge to feel like? He got himself into the challenge and came out crying about it like Jimmy forced him.
Not to mention, he took advantage of the Chris 'Ava' Tyson drama to boost himself, with some even crediting him for exposing Chris over the PDF/grooming accusations (even though he wasn't the one exposing Ava).
I feel so stupid, thank you for making this video! So crazy to think that if dogpack acted less horribly to you, this video probably wouldn't have been made.
@@jeffjefforson1435 it takes only like few hours for all the drama channels to come out like flies towards like one thing about this stuff. No one responded to this from their socials and there's so much less noise about this in internet. 😅
@@agentwesker5237 I mean, I was expecting this video to be a huge talk in this community considering how much this drama is being milked out. It's been a day and no commentary channel is responding to this. I'm just curious
@@RiskySandwich considering how important this video is in this drama stuff, this was supposed to be blown up. It's been a day and literally no one is talking about this
Idk maybe coz dogpack doesn't have a fraction of fame compared to mrbeast, Not defending dogpack but mrbeast definitly has done shady crap with so many of his old employees being fired and him being best friends with a pedo
who am i going to trust? a random guy saying mr beast is a fraud and saying all of the claims he makes are true or someone i've been subscribed to for almost a year
@@epicgam3r737 before anyone say anything I’m not on anyone’s side I’m completely neutral on everything going on I just make a comment every now and I just hate people blaming others for something they didn’t do
The amount of logical fallacies and manipulative tactics in this video is crazy. I’m not out here supporting dogpack but god damn, this video is an ass expose. The lack of evidence and the mistreatment of any investigative process is stunning
I know right? The 2nd thing he said about the war crimes is straight up just straw manning the entire thing. Soggy's main defense for that ENTIRE segment was that "it wasn't a war crime!"
Sure, but that doesn't mean that Mr Beast is in the clear lmao, and it doesn't disprove Dogman or Weddle in any way either
Also there's proof for the two people in these replies saying "name one"
1:25:15 Out of all of these, only a few allegations remain.
-Faking Philanthropy videos -Crypto Scam -Only 1 illegal lottery (probably a mistake, but it was still bad that MrBeast didn't do anything to fix it until this day) And also MrBeast constantly changing the winners during his live streams was unacceptable.
He put both a cross and a tick on Jake Weddle?
-Beast Games Drama and mistreating contestants (no longer an allegation, the MrBeast team admitted that it was true). But the team said that they are working to resolve the issue.
Bro, this new title and thumbnail still ain’t it… It still looks like just another Mr Beast allegations coverage video like everyone else has done. It needs to be something like “DogPack404 lied to you and I have the proof” with Dawson’s face in the thumbnail.
i would disagree with your part on illegal lottery 2#. i know its ok for the employee to use mrb’s sig if he allowed. but he didn’t mention to the ppl who purchased the shirt that this happened and say that the shirt had mrb’s sig written by mrb and a member not a member did both of that. this would cause misconception upon buyers or people who want to sell it for profit
@@naganut9718 "Mr Beast isn't a gameshow" That's ironic cuz of his upcoming Amazon reality competition series. Him going out of his way to say that his competition videos are true, not staged, not edited is what led to this.
@@sontho6995 yeah, Mr Beast isn't a gameshow. He's gonna have parts of his challenges that can be seemingly not fair. But its still not a highly imbalance that can ruin the whole challenge. Just a slight advantage or disadvantage
@@naganut9718 Mentioning imbalance about a YouTuber's challenge videos doesn't work when there isn't any proper regulations about game shows on youtube, in fact there's little law regulations about what gets uploaded on the internet. No TV show can get away with the stuff Mr beast does because of things like the FCC.
@Silas276 MrBeadt challlenges isn't always gonna be 100% fair. They're gonna have one or the other teams at a disadvantage to make the challenge interesting. I don't see anything wrong with that
@@attacong7779 that's what I was thinking. Current MrBeast employees would definitely say anything to please the company if it means keeping their jobs or getting a quick pay
@@attacong7779 Soggy also just skipped over the part in the 100 Girls vs 100Boys video, where Jimmy gives the only man that can solve the rubik's cube $10k to leave. After which he went to the girls, not to make the same offer to the only woman able to solve them, but instead tell them how he rigged the challenge for them.
@@Thy_Dictatorafter this vid i think i would just stand in between 2 sides since both have some flaws in theirs claims. interviewing with mrb current employees cannot make sure since mrb might know this and tell them to say this to defame dogpack. denying mrb not manipulating the script is not ok since in 5v5 boys vs girls survivors contest there was a professional in girls team. the 10minute vid they hired a famous person who should have been lost during lazer challenge
And also the guy at 57:10 didn't show any email from the Mr beast team that he was selected, how can we just trust this guy without any proof? He could just be some random dude talking nonsense
Mr beast is still a horrible boss and not a good person. Just look at his crypto history and his tweets about them. And he still uses kids to feed his money farm. And the whole Lunchly thing too is very very gross. Him working with Logan Paul and KSI. And a bunch more. Sure that dog dude sucked. But so does Jimmy.
@ Yeah, I get that. Maybe I could have worded my comment better. But my point still stands. I still think MrBeast is a scumbag, but DogPack404 is no different.
@@plpong893 but he literally did hire an RSO, the only thing that was disproven was that MrBeast didn’t intentionally hire Delaware, and also some minute details. But the big problem with all of this is that he was employed by MrBeast, that is the issue that should’ve been focused on. Regardless if it was intentional or not, he still did it.
Great video, disproving a lot of allegations, one issue is that in the middle of debunking allegations, you spread one. Cam nuggets is the worst, he sucks. However that is not what happened. There is a lot of context to that message that you left out
EDIT: He has since responded on a livestream with Lerix, I assume he's going to make another more public response. I retract my statements, because it looks like he's retracted his accusations against Camnuggets. He has now agreed to remove that part from the video.
@ChrisMiIesChong no, he reported an event that Camnuggets had nothing to do with, other than him being there and being the one to report the issue to the server staff. yes they should've vetted the people going into the server, however that is not on Cam Nuggets. He was not just watching a kid make cp, he was reporting a minor to get them out of the chat.
@@ChrisMiIesChongno. He was in an NSFW chat and a kid got in. On the vc the minor was recording their butthole, the message was him reporting it so the minor could be banned.
Can anyone explain to me how 13:44 is not a war crime. They literally show in the text that sleep deprivation is a form of war crime and is exactly what they did to him by refusing to turn off the lights. It shouldn’t matter if the guy said it as a joke or not, it’s still a warcrime
@@DJTAUR not a war crime since they are not at war, are apart of a privte entiy and can leave anytime they want. if they cant leave it,that would be considered a human rights violation, not a warcime
@@imcalledcool dude thats ridiculous. if you think letting contestants challenge themselves in a bright room for a cash prize is a war crime, wait till you find out what an isreali bomb does to a baby in a palestinian residential building. ridiculous.
@ Yeah I get what you mean. But then he would lose the money he had potential to win so he can’t really just leave. But yeah you’re probably right about it not being a war crime then but I personally think it should still count as it
I don't think it would be considered a war crime because he could leave at any time. Don't get me wrong, it was incredibly shitty of them to do that, but not a war crime.
So basically Beast is not quite as bad as alleged and Dogpack and Jake aren't absolute angels? Damn, that's kinda crazy bro. I almost give a damn.
Neither party should be believed. Not dogpack, not beast, not you, not randomsloptuber number 3000. This should be handeled in court, not by random basement dwellers who have nothing better to do than to make a spectacle of these crimes and lies.
I’m glad to have found Stucky’s channel after waiting since I had a suspicious gut feeling about DogPack. Sure enough my gut feeling was correct. Also Megasus is gonna have to delete those videos after milking the entire thing, if he milks this tho I pray he gets made fun of even more for it
@DDArtsArts yeah I'm not gonna watch an hour and half of this guy's video, the little that I saw from him seemed like this guy is a bullshitter. And the hour and half video thing was probably intentional, they knew most people wouldn't watch it and there would just be fanboys like you that you probably didn't watch the whole thing either posting all over the internet how this video totally debunked that dogpack guy, and no ones gonna waste an hour and half of their lives to try to debunk that. So the long video thing might have been intentional
@@ArtVaeirs because y’all aren’t the detectives you think y’all are…this is also the main excuse anyone has when they give mr.beast a bone, that they’re being paid off
You didn't watch it, but if you had you'd have seen he went to Beast in NC for in person interviews, ever considered that they might have followed him because they were aware he was making this about them?
First I want to say that this was a great video and you did a great job with this exposing of Dogpack but I do have a question whether this is debunking all of the allegations against Mrbeast. What I mean is that Rosanna also made a video on Jimmy’s illegal gambling and him being a gambling addict and that whole Mrbeast crypto investigation but you didn’t cover them but some of these people making these have something to do with Dogpack so are these allegations fake or not?
@@Tyne-w6c I know but he also said that most of the stuff by Dogpack and people associated with him are lies and the information I said came for Rosanna who is related to Dogpack in this situation
@Tyne-w6c my bad, i started watching and couldn't be bothered with the rest. Fun fact: Did you know one of the major issues in North Carolina atm is human trafficking. It's on the doa website. It's just something i randomly can across looking up some of these MB facts.
Its interesting watching the dip in MrBeast video views since thendogpack videos. Beast has had ro bump up channel numbers by releasing more shorts Personally I think Amazon will be a flop and JD has peaked, all downhill from here. When he is not talking business or from a script the guys just have no personality. This was demonstrated on the How Ridiculous video, Chris Hemsworth video. Its just a bunch of 12 year old boys in a room.
Plus, SomeOrdinaryGamer, Coffeezilla, and others, including ex employees, have all come out essentially confirming what Dogpack said. New videos on the crypto scam today and it was only due to Asmongold the eye surgery hospital finally got paid after 12 months.
I'll choose the slightly shady underdog over the massive, hulking extreme piece-of-shi- bloated corpo dog any day. It's not even a comparison at this point. This is like a whistleblower pointing out the CEO and board murder and eat people, and people saying "Okay fair point, but wait- YOU'RE NOT WEARING COMPANY SHOES! BOOO! You're the same!"
21:45 mistaking 1/2 serving size for 1 serving size is the oldest mistake in the book, I don't think I can trust anything dogpack says after this point.
@ That is a completely fair point to make, you are absolutely correct. I do not agree with Dogpack’s decision to include that recording, I don’t think it helps whatsoever
How are we supposed to know who it is if Dogpack never cited who the recording was of? If you're critical of the idea that the recorded audio is of this guy, you also have to be critical of the idea it was a Mr. Beast employee at all.
Brother I will never believe a crypto scammer like Mr beast, friends of Gary v a prolific grifter and scammer, is helping anyone out of the goodness of his heart.
The video debunks all of dogpacks allegations, not the other staff. Mrbeast is most likely still a bad person as coffezilla did a good investigation on him and he still is collabing with logan.
Mrbeast may not be a good guy but dogpack definitely isn't.
To all the people labeling yourselves gullible for believing Dogpack, I have news for you. Soggy's research is really not all that much better.
Some of you may recall a now-deleted segment in this video where Soggy accuses CamNuggets of being a PDF using a single Discord screenshot. This was actually Cam reporting a kid exposing themselves on VC to the mods of his server, which he elaborated on in a community post with instructions on how to join said server and see the context. Soggy almost certainly should have known, and the fact he pushed that claim anyway - even if he did delete it later - speaks to either bias or highly irresponsible reporting.
It's also not good that he bases so much of his claims on new testimony and his interpretations of existing testimony. It's all still no more or less hearsay than what's already been said, no matter how much you show off the effort you put into the process. You can't cherry pick what you think is wrong with existing interviews and then treat your own like gospel just because you feel like you worked harder for it.
The audio recording of Dawson's termination is dubious at best, and it doesn't help that Soggy hardly elaborates on how he obtained it. Not good, especially after Jake Weddle was almost fooled by an AI recording of Jimmy.
The Discord DMs with Dogpack can also be easily falsified. Soggy could have done a lot more to verify that particular evidence (is that even Dogpack he's talking to?), but considering the CamNuggets blunder, it's clear that Discord screenshots aren't Soggy's strong suit. It's also hypocritical, considering that Soggy wants to call Dogpack's Twitter DMs into question.
A lot of the rest is just more nitpicking that can easily be falsified or back and forthed on, and doesn't really go anywhere but attempt to discredit people. In short, Soggy is the Lunchly to Dogpack's Lunchables.
I'm not saying that Soggy is wrong, and no one is perfect, but if you think you're gullible for believing Dogpack and are now believing Soggy, then you've learned nothing and are setting yourself up to feel even worse if this gets disproven. Focus on the tangible, verifiable evidence.
This is unexpected. I can't understand why any YouTuber would want to weigh into the middle of this, unless of course you want to kiss Mr Beasts A S S.
My grandfather just die so very bad since I need his verify to join the Party of my country to sever the people I learned a lot about how people of relatives (my sister and a lot of other people) are hypocrites
But it is alright, you become stronger, and may I hope I follow the truth, follow the light not follow the kind of person my relatives and family is 🌻.
You can tell the damage has been done by how few views this has gotten compared to the original exposé. If this rebuttal is substantially accurate, Jimmy should undoubtedly sue Dawson. The first words that pop into my head when I hear 'Mr Beast' now are 'pedophile / scammer / liar / psychopath'. Even having watched this, that's now my immediate mental response. I can't even watch his videos anymore.
but dogpack isnt harming children? THIS is clout chasing, stop pretending youre better than someone else just because you dont like what they are exposing. This to me seems like youre being paid to do so, it feels like a cheap ripoff
"Damn, Mrbeast is helping everyone, he's the goat. Why is everyone trying to cancel Mrbeast?" -> "Damn, screw it, cancel Mrbeast, he's a fraud Dogpack said so." -> "Ok nevermind, Mrbeast is still weird at some extent but Dogpack is a fraud!"
What are you even actually proving. You are focusing and miss directing the whole thing. You are literally straw manning. None of the things you are pointing out does anything. This is an hour waste of video content.
@StrikerEureka13 nah. I dont think i have too nor will I. You came in hot like you had a chip on your shoulder. If you are too stupid to know what straw man is and how to spot it, then go figure it out yourself. You aren't my responsibility to educate. That's your job.
@StrikerEureka13 bro, if you think I give two shits to prove to you anything, you are devoid of reality. If you don't know what straw manning is nor examples of it, then look it up yourself. It ain't that hard to find videos on straw manning!
Hi, i'm only just watch the video for about 10 minutes but I already saw some flaws and why this got pop up on my Front page but not Dogpack404 with high view when it just got so high with the first video Dogpack404 create?
Anyway, my flaw I saw is with the interview with Garrot from 7:30, he talk about how the "crappy voice changer" damage his life but I don't see any point to prove it? First : He talk joking about with a friend so how other people know the crappy voice changer is Garrot? Because for me, that crappy voice changer sound good and only his friend and Garrot know about that conversation so how other people know it is him? And with so if they know, how can they 100% prove it is him because ONLY 2 PEOPLE KNOW THAT CONVERSATION, how can they 100% sure it is him again to damage his life? As the point as they work, people should be a little bit smart and can't 100% sure because it is still a voice changer, and there people with good voice changer real life can fake the way of speaking, etc to made it sound like Garrot? So again, how?
And also, don't you see a little bit weird how Soggy look like side with the Mr.Beast side with that claim and didn't question it either? I still respect Dogpack404 to be the first successful person to bringdown Empire of Mr.Beast because whether you like it or not, he indeed the first person that made TON of people question Mr.Beast, that you can't denied. Hope I just wrong with this flaw I'm seeing..
Fact check version of myself : I don't trust 2 people Conversation and the good friend of Garrot will support him and prove Garrot is innocent since he probably the once publish the record to Dogpack404, but I doubt he is a sc*mb*g to tell all other people that Garrot is a bad person and the recording of this is Garrot voice since that fake claim can be easily be refute (the voice did get change). Unless the joke of him is so popular and he did joke about a same joke or similar joke a lot, it is unlikely that people remember till 2024 to link it to Garrot. So again, nope, that a flaw to me eye until I hope somewhat please prove I'm wrong
From all the slop we've gotten so far, there's still questions on whether:
- Dustin was rescued from Grandfather Mountain using an Army Helicopter, allegedly deceiving taxpayers.
- The Christian Camp where the video of "Protect the Yacht" was filmed was indeed left with debris on the lake.
- The philanthropy videos might have been edited in a way that they wanted it to seem as if they did more than what they claimed (Repeated footage on building 100 wells in Africa, Digitally disappearing a building and making it look worse when they only built solar panels, also using AI to fake a house in another philanthropy video).
- Mr. Beast accepted to sponsor a scented water bottle that needed to change a plastic every ten days while at the same time trying to "save the ocean" with #TeamSeas.
- The ideas are stolen from other people.
- The workplace environment is actually toxic and with some alleged misogyny due to the lack of strong corporate foundations since the beginning.
- They have filmed their videos more than once in a very experimental approach (first it was Jake Weddle on solitary confinement, then Trey alleges this also happened with the FBI agent video because of no proper screening process).
- They forgot to check BG again (allegedly some contestant on the Mr. Beast games who also worked for Logan Paul was harassing women and then was kicked afterwards).
- Mr. Beast was not prepared to host a game show of a really big scale, affecting people in the process.
That's what I've gotten so far. I might edit this comment if I can recall other things not mentioned on this video.
@@ltreylukwesa -Knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware, admitted by Jake the Viking, his son in law) and exposing his child audience to him in videos (Soggy actually tries to re-write the narrative of this in this video) -Knowingly keeping a predator (Ava Kris Tyson) at the forefront of his brand (he knew about the inappropriate poster she bought years ago, as seen in multiple videos + many other bad behaviors, as shown in the leaked discord dms) -The terrible treatment of Beast Games contestants (that's well documented and obviously attached to his name) -Fake/misleading charity work that's true purpose was just to increase the reputation of his brand (there have been multiple videos explaining this better than I can. It all ties into him being generally misleading/manipulative but stating that he "never fakes things" so he can convince his child viewers to subscribe/consume his content/buy his merch, gamble etc. etc.)
those are the worst ones that i know have substantial evidence
@@StrikerEureka13 Coffeezilla's video specifically doesn't take a hard stance on whether Mr. Beast himself or his fund did what looks to maybe be a scam. Obviously we know it's probably an intentional scam. But Mr. Beast can come up with a counter argument to that claim because there isn't enough definitive evidence presented. Coffeezilla makes a point of that in the video.
@@shadowed69 Crypto scams are a huge deal. He couldn't verify for certain that Jimmy was a part of them, but told people exactly where to find information about it (which confirmed he was behind Crypto scams). That isn't at all safe or non-damaging.
@@StrikerEureka13 To make sure he didn't seem like too much of a glazer, because then everyone would be certain that this was a paid PR video. All the things that Soggy "called him out for" (which was basically nothing btw), were safe easy things that don't affect his reputation nearly as badly as the serious, unaddressed accusations.
Soggy literally called Jimmy out for the illegal literally, called some of his actions "scummy and manipulative" and even called him out for some things Dogpack didn't.
Doubt you will ever read this Soggy Cereal but wanna give you massive props for not dead naming Ava or mispronouning her. She absolutely a horrific person, but weaponizing deadnaming and such only encourages discrimination towards trans people who did nothing wrong or did something that is no were near this level of messed up. I really appropriate the ally ship.
You’re wayyyy too dismissive of Jake Weddle. Working conditions like the ones He was subjected to are abhorrent, regardless of whether he “consented” to the job or not.
funny, I always found some allegations wierd [yes i am a hardcore mrbeast fan who refused to believe everything] and you just straight up solved up everything
Can’t believe any of this needs to be said. Anyone with a shred of media literacy would at least understand that dogpack404 was a sketchy and erratic source at best and actively malicious at worst. It was mind numbing seeing how many people just blindly followed and praised him when it was clear as day that everything coming out of his mouth were either lies or things taken entirely out of context.
Thanks for making this video that spells everything out for these lobotomites.
i love how people believe everything anyone says, something alot of idiots in ths comment section keep forgetting is this is not a mr beast defending video but proving how unreliable and not trustworthy dogpack is
regarding the warcrime joke: irrelevant if its a warcrime or not, its still very immoral to deprive someone of sleep, and you can't argue that "leaving whenever you want" makes it consensual, since there's no real choice with that much lifechanging money.
Love your work though, just needed to express my opinion on that
@@JamieVatargaa MrBeast affiliate paid for his flight to America
I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s how he landed exclusive access to these employees and audio files that would be confidential but were somehow “conveniently leaked”
@@JamieVatarga LMAOO aka beast is still rich scum and soggy cereal is just another grifter going at another grifter which makes this probably the least productive and meaningful dig video.
Beast didn’t pay for it, but he was aware it was happening. Soggy says he got permission from Mr Beast, but he didn’t tell Mr Beast who specifically he was going to interview (although considering what he was covering it wouldn’t be hard to deduce)
An interesting thing has come up though where Jimmy has been messaging different creators in DMs and telling them to watch this video, and now Soggy is on twitter calling out Mr Beast for using his video as a shield and not addressing all the other illegal allegations that he does feel he needs to
FINALLY! I am so tired of people blindly believing everything Dogpack and his two disgruntled idiots say. I want to see responsibility taken by Jimmy. If these fraudulent allegations continue that would never happen.
this is actually one of the only valid videos on the mr beast situation and i honestly think you're pretty brave for putting this out there. i have really enjoyed watching your content grow and i can tell you give a shit about integrity. ty for this!
Everyone accused should address the allegations. This situation is a huge fucking mess made out of nothing. It's actually insane how this situation has played out.
I’m not gonna turn on dogpack Rosanna or Jake just yet, sure they made some mistakes but they aren’t entirely wrong, and even though soggy made some good points and did some pretty great research, he wasn’t always right either.
Damn. That's a lot of stuff. I'm no longer on Dogpack's side (good riddance, he was insufferable anyway). I'm on yours now, Soggy. Because Jimmy is still a shady guy that needs to be held accountable and Dogpack should get sued.
I mean, TO BE FAIR, it is considered inhumane torture to live in solitary confinment, that is not FALSE, and there IS a conversation to be had about how Mr.Beast content had and has a tendency of being dehumanzing and/or dangerous even if agreed upon and allowed to leave at any time. Someone shouldn't be put to psychological torture that they don't understand the gravity off just bc they say its okay, ykwim? HOWEVER, I think it is also important to point out that this isn't unique to Mr.Beast, and there are entire networks who have made millions of dollars torturing people for entertainment too. Mr.Beast is a sympton of the illness, not the illness itself, if it wasn't Mr.Beast then someone else would've made the same mistake.
Glad I subscribed to you earlier and had the chance to join your server and had a discord call with you before you were super famous lmao. Soggy you have put a lot of effort in this one, I hope it pays off.
@@sharkydumbo6097 Halfway into the video, the only thing he has debunked was the Feastables nutrition facts and the cgi accusations.
Most of the other points was Soggy attacking Dogpack’s language, like him not saying allegedly a single time, or him claiming Jake the Viking was not a valid source, despite using Jake the Viking as a source when I benifits his side of the story, the Mr. Beast side.
I completely agree that misinformation should be combated, 100%, and Dogpack should not have spread misinformation in his video. However, Soggy uses these small attacks on the credibility on minor claims to attack the larger claims that have more substantial evidence.
For the most part, this is not a debunking of Dogpack, this is a slander piece designed to make Mr. Beast look better. Notice how in most of his segment Soggy does not actually attack the matter at hand, rather he focuses on a small issue and then blows it out of proportion (ie. For the war crimes segment Soggy focuses on the fact that Dustin, an employee was joking about the war crimes thing, despite the fact that Mr. Beast was paying a struggling college student to subject himself to an experience that has been dubbed a war crime to use on prisoners of war).
@@kookthekid8338 Me personally I don’t really care about the personality of Dogpack. His claims are what is important to me and to the controversy.
Soggy spending the entire video calling him an idiot and posting vulnerable information oh him at a low moment in his life does not combat any misinformation (Which Dogpack is guilty of in some examples). All it does is serve to defame Dogpack in order to discredit him. Defamation is not helpful in combating his claims, but it will help sway public opinion into disliking Dogpack, and in addition his accusations.
In the entire hour and a half video Soggy dedicates 2 minutes to criticizing Mr. Beast, and the rest is attacking Dogpack. There is a very clear bias here given the current title of the video.
The character of his accuser is terrible. You gotta look at both sides dude. The whole world is looking at Mr.Beasts mis deeds already, dogpack needs called out for his too
Huh turns out that manager who said Dawson was crying over his old job and desperate to stay at firing wasn't just trying to smear a critic. I'm actually kinda shocked the audio receipts to back it up exist.
Anyway, glad that my initial hunch i suppressed about how DogPack looked kinda wiry and untrustworthy (like a skaven) wasn't just me being an asshole but an accurate gut feeling about his character based on how he carried himself and presented things. Lo and behold, turns out BOTH the exposee and exposer are scum. It makes perfect sense why 404 was so desperate to stay, and when he got fired anyway he tried to inflame the actual wrong doings of Mr.Beast in order to push his own bullshit and capture his 15 minutes of fame he failed to get working for him. Birds of a feather flock together, but sometimes one bird gets ejected from the flock and acts as geese are wont to: spiteful.
I feel so validated. I was always one of the people to criticize Mr. Beast, mostly because I’m a Contrarian (also spelled Asshole), but also because I think everything deserves criticism. The second it became popular to criticize him I toned it down, mostly because I thought they turned Mr Beast from a saint to a demon, when he’s somewhere in between. I like to see the good in humanity while staying realistic to our flawed existence. People immediately took his word or called him a liar immediately after DogPack404 released his videos instead of waiting it out/doing their own digging.
I think the beast games stuff makes him a demon but that’s just me. The average person makes mistakes but not on that scale and magnitude. He couldn’t even give them beds, the real squid games even had beds
If you're reading this, please take time. I can't stand to see people making baseless accusations without properly watching the vid or instead consult other drama vids to explain the vid. I'm going to clarify a handful of things: 1) He did NOT downplay Jake Weddle's experience, he's well aware that it was awful, as you can see in the interview, but makes it clear that comparing it to a war crime (which Jake tried to portray that even though it was a joke by a friend of his) is extremely bold. 2) The accusations that he got paid by Mr. Beast is wild. Even though he commented on it and he told Pyro to react to it, Soggy made it perfectly clear that Jimmy should be held accountable for the things he ACTUALLY did, like not paying for the surgery for the blind people, and admitted that the first illegal lottery was in fact illegal. 3) He also makes it perfectly clear that Jimmy was not aware that he hired a registered sex offender, he called out for his mistake and said it was irresponsible, but he said it was not intentional, especially when the RSO was hired at Best Buy.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
With the airrack video and this ur proving to be someone who brings original content to the commentary space, which doesn’t seem like it but is incredibly high praise.
This is situation is like 2 clones standing next to eachother saying "no i'm the good guy shoot the other one" but both the clones are evil, and probably even the one shooting the gun(soggy cereal)
although this video did shed some new light into dogpack's less than scrupulous practices of misleading accusations, it also completely omitted many of the serious allegations of mr. beast that have more credibility to them. Such as the deleted discord messages to hide the chris ava messages. Making it not a good look for Soggy, in addition to dog and beast
This video feels just as manipulative as the dog pack one, honestly. You really successfully managed to paint the picture that he’s not to be trusted and a lot of his accusations are pretty skewed but for the biggest ones, your arguments feel so flimsy.
For the war crime part, you focus on the fact that it’s a joke and successfully debunk it but doesn’t focus on the glaring aspect that what happened, happened. Even if it was made as a joke and not a real fact, he still suffered was victim of what was joked about. You just kind sweep under the rug with the "he could have just left" when the video makes an argument that he felt intense social pressure not to. That wasn’t debunked.
Same for the other thing that were the most bothering for me: the safety of the contestant. You make this weird argument like "You complain about safety but MrBeast hid in his yacht to avoid the danger of a storm or fudged the number of contestants in his BoyvGirl with staff members to avoid COVID spreading, how hypocritical" and it makes no sense. Here, it’s a problem of lack of transparency. Sure, an argument could be made that it’s inconsequential and shouldn’t be mentioned (which I would agree with) but then it’s not to be conflated with the horrible set condition that were described during the round of allegations. Chief among which was the Beast Games were a lot of very basic safety practices seemed to have been overlooked. That’s the kind of safety we are focusing about.
Then, finally, there’s the point with Mr Beast recommending that anime about the 26/18 year old having a wholesome relationship. I feel like you’re being wildly facetious just to make your argument work. Sure, the anime ends up being more wholesome than the premise would suggest but just think through it a second. Ava is known to have weird things with kids. Jimmy recommends an anime where the premise is about heavily suggesting the adult and a minor will have a weird relationship even though it’s subverted in the end. Should we assume that when he says that Ava would like this, he’d had in mind that it’s a really good show that subverts the pedo implication it’s summary would imply or would he just like this because it seems like a pedo show. Judging by what we learn from Ava, the latter is way more likely than the former.
So yeah, I dunno. You convince me that dog pack isn’t to be trusted but it doesn’t mean you or Mister Beast are. I’d like to hear more from that situation to form a better judgement. :/
I was honestly baffled at how everyone just jumped on board with Dogpack and believed him right away. He seemed so scummy and ingenuine right from the start
The valve thing makes sense, what's the difference between the valve working when you turn it, and a guy pressing a 'drain water' button as soon as the valve turns. It's like wondering why a special effects guy offscreen presses the explosion button instead of the actor using real grenades.
great job Soggy! almost none of Dogpack404's claims were even addressed!
like wow guys he gave permission for his staff to forge his signature... which is somehow supposed to debunk the criticism of mr beast deceiving his child audience into thinking they received merch personally signed by him??!?
or the criticism of him knowingly keeping a registered offender on payroll. which was "debunked" because he actually neglected to run a background check, and only found out after hiring him and continuing to employ them???
or the claim that group chat image wasn't actually illegal material. even though that was discovered pretty much immediately, was addressed as a possibility in the original video, and is irrelevant as the actual criticism being levied is that the image was sent UNDER THE ASSUMPTION that is was illegal material.
and then to add insult to injury, the video goes on to criticize dogpack404 for attempting to reverse image search the photo. how can you use this attempt to research the origin of the image as critique, when the last claim you made was that dogpack404 didn't do enough research to confirm the illegal nature of the image...
video contradicts itself lmao. the only criticism i can see sticking, is dogpack404 taking an entire month to remove that video he fumbled, and even then, its miniscule compared to the totality of accusations against mr beast...
but don't you see? if mrbeast messes up it was honest mistake but if dogapac messes up, he is trying to brainwash/ manipulate you! Soggy's first vid about this topic was even worse "the danger of slop content". thats why he deleted it
Cannot believe this dude is getting promoted by MrBreast himself in other influencer's DMs and people are acting like this isn't fake as fuck 💀 guy's saying exactly what Jimmy wants him to say to try and save his image it's so sad 😭
Literally impossible to get a good idea of each situation when both sides of the story are untrustworthy. Good job calling out DogPack for being a bad person and straight lying, I just think that a good chunk of this video missed the mark
I mean even if the anime was about a 17 and 26 y/o being in a relationship I'm pretty sure that is legal in Japan. I mean I still think it's gross but like in Great Teacher Onizuka he talks about how he's a pervert and he day dreams about getting one of his students and having his 16 y/o bride which is played off as being a taboo but legal thing but in reality it's used as negative character trait for Onizuka, along with him being a smoker, and an ex-gang member they're meant to show you that he's not a moral person. But by the end of the third episode Onizuka saves one of his students from committing suicide because her home life isn't good, her parents never talk and if they do they're fighting. Onizuka tells her to go home and he will fix things. He shows up at her house that evening kicks in the front door holding a sledgehammer and asks her to to point at the wall that divides her parents and he breaks down that wall with the sledgehammer and leaves. It shows that he is a flawed person, who is scummy but capable of change and really cares for his students. As a westerner I do find it icky that he's talking about a 16 y/o wife when he's in his 20s because it's illegal here and that's what I grew up learning and because the age gap is just gross to me. I also find it gross when 30+ year olds are seeking out 18 year olds too even though that's completely legal. I also find it very gross if you are traveling places to make the age of consent lower even though in some cases that would be illegal but not always.(although many countries do have laws against doing exactly this thing) This anime seems to be very similar in that it is taking a topic that inherently makes you uneasy to build character. Just to be clear, so there can be no misconstruing anything: I DO NOT SUPPORT PEDOPHILIA OR CHILD ABUSE, I just acknowledge that there are differences in how certain countries define child versus adult.
1:00:52 how does this not devalue the item? the only way this doesn't devalue the item is if you can't prove it's fake. But if you know the signatures are being forged it's worthless.
Do you think Jimmy would ever convince his audience of his innocence by hiring someone to glaze him? No. Instead he would get someone to dish out a little bit of shade while ignoring or manipulating the major issues like knowing about Ava Kris Tyson's behavior/knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law Jake the Viking months ago now... Don't believe this guy.
For a moment I thinked you tried to defend Mr. beast like others but after seeing the video to the end (I don't know why people can't do that) I see what you tried to say and at this points atleast for me i am neutral now in this drama after all of this
Released this video just long enough for people to have forgotten the details so you can use horrible analogies and a dumb voice to try an manipulate the truth. How much they pay you?
30:56 as an weeb who watch this show and called it as mid and never watch the whole season, nor read the manga the Girl is the one who coming to the salary man, but the salary man being a gigachad as he his refuses.
You said it best: Mr Beast should be more Transparent and shown whats going on for allegations and that would've help his public image. Hes made bad decisions and should be called out for it
@@tensedart3470 I think he knows that already, that’s why it’s been a good business decision for him not to speak out publicly, I’ve noticed YouTube drama becomes a witch hunt for a person especially if they respond , because the court of public opinion feels like they are owed even if they themselves aren’t the ones who have been done wrong, I don’t understand the obsession that people have with responses , but I do understand him directly compensating the people that were hurt or mishandled in relation to his actions. And his business doesn’t get hurt by it much, anyway that’s just a business side of things , I can’t be mad at it , heck my job is social media marketing, I stay the away from giving responses to hate on any posts , people will tear you apart at any chance they get just because they don’t like you
@ltreylukwesa if the allegations were false, then yeah I can agree. But as I said. It took Several YTbers to debunk what's true and not true. In This video alone. We see that Many of them aren't true and only 3 factors are true. Two of them are not as big. While I agree the English speaking side cared too much. We can't just let things slide just like that. Not saying Mr beast can't fix his mistakes. But that he has to be mindful of his decisions overall. Basically moral responsibility is what I'm speaking about
Edit: To add a TLDR. Mr Beast isn't above criticism. He should learn from his mistakes and he not be neglectful at things
@@tensedart3470 it was smart of him not to speak out on it, Mr beast videos are all over the world, the only people who care about the drama seem to be mostly English speakers or as it seems , majority Americans, why would he make a public statement like that that people are still just gonna slander and will actually impact the thoughts of all the other people in the world that don’t even know this is going on?
@PhoenixAscension554 the video literally debunked many things that were against Mr beast and it would've made sense for MR beast to speak up about it. The fact that Several Ytbers have to debunks things for Mr beast to prove his case. That's not a good look. At best. He's neglectful or very bad at organizing his work and image. Do I expect everything answered? No. Do I want beast to be called out for his bad decisions? Yeah mostly. Basically this is more about moral responsibility is what I have issue with
MrBeast should absolutely not be transparent or give anymore responses. Internet dramas boil over, and his views aren't declining by any meaningful amounts, and he is still in a good position. there's literally nothing loud twitter users or minorities in the public can do about this, so from his perspective why give in?
Am I saying he's okay or not okay? no neither actually, I'm just stating that from his perspective and how I see it, it would be an overall negative for him to be transparent and respond more than he already has.
@@ProbablyJacob This aint team sports man, both sides can be guilty. Mr beast is guilty in alot of things (some missing in this video) that he needs to respond to but letting dogpack get away scott free just because hes accusing the big bad isnt a very good solution. He'll spit in testimonies faces and worsen lives just to get the outcome he wants.
@@marikosbrando if you cant tell mr beast would bleed out an infant for a million dollars just by the way he moves, talks, and acts then youre either 11 or have the emotional IQ of a dog.
@@anonymous4068 id rather have an educated opinion on some shit that actually matters, i dont care about either of these two freaks and neither should you
Dogpack is the hotter and way less annoying twink. Im on his side. This soggy dude is like a mrbeast character trying to do investigative journalism. Know your lane
Dogpack seems shady. He randomly came out of nowhere and started making up allegations. Sure, I don’t support MrBeast but there’s something suspicious about him
Plus he released his video AFTER Kris Tyson drama so he’s probably clout chasing and we fell for it
starting the video with "these baseless rumours are hurting the philanthropy helping thousands of people" really doesn't inspire good faith. Jimmy is a millionaire. He doesn't need a good image to do good things, nor does he need to do good things publicly. he can just give money to charity and get a nice tax write-off. starting the video that way feels gross and manipulative. quite disappointing since soggy's coverage of the betterhelp situation was pretty good.
@@ps1de Said comment was deleted after PR team or Mr.Beast himself removed when at the end of the video they suggest another video which discredits him (crypto but I don't know that much about crypto so :\)
Also, I am gonna need to have a little bit of context. if you are talking about interviews with people = knows too much about Mr.Beast, getting in contact with somebody is not near any of those things. And main reason he has been critical of him (same in this video) is because its basically been proven most of his claims are shit thrown at a wall hoping to stick with not much else to add onto it.
He says himself in the video he doesn't wanna be labeled a Mr.Beast Glazer/ (M.B.G.) and this video was mainly to just remove the false allegations on Mr.Beast that were ontop of ALREADY EXISTING allegations on Mr.Beast. not make his image clean.
@@Sorroh no matter how much MrBeast paid to silence Weddle it still wont reduce the trauma that dude must have gone through. Dogpack might not be the most trustworthy guy but that interview was the reason he got paid for the damages. The fact that they broke that man so much speaks volumes on inhumane that 'challenge' must have been.
@@LongGone2it's not far fetched, soggy has a suspicious amount of insider details on MrBeast for such a relatively small channel. He's been a critic of dogpack in the 'slop content' video. This feels like Jimmy's attempt to discredit dogpack in a scummy way. I mean of all the video made on him why did mrbeast comment on this specifically lol.
Or is this somewhere else. Is there something I am missing or context I don't have?
Do you possibly have a source for these because I've never heard this at all.
"I hope that the MrBeast drama is finally over now..." Oh, my sweet summer child...
"Nobody" creators generate tens of thousands of clicks simply by putting MrBeast's face in the thumbnail. If there's traffic to be made off of someone's name & likeness, and rage clicks are a principal means of driving engagement, drama content will continue until the heat death of the internet.
While everything is for the most part correct I still have to disagree with the Jake Weddle stuff, yes he could've quit at any time, legally speaking Jimmy is out of any wrong doing, but that's not how that work, there's scientific evidence to prove that psychologically making decisions like "just leave" are not that easy.
That'ss the reason toxic relationships exist, have you ever seen a person in a super toxic relationship and wou doner "why dont they just leave" and you even ask them and they dont know the answer? Same concept applies to Jake Weddle, Jimmy should've stopped the video the moment they noticed Jake was not doing so hot, because in Dustin's own words they knew Jake was really NOT doing ok.
But yeah that's the only thing that I wanted to comment about because it keep being brought up about how Jake could've just left... and well... yes and no
I'm glad to see more points of view instead of the same spouted details from other youtubers.
About Kara's explanation on "no does not mean no". I still think that it's obvious that context or no, it is very easy for something like that to be understood as innapropriate. You'd think as a corporation that would be in mind when typing out something like this. It's like putting "bigger is better" and saying "oh well, the context is that our product is better for being physically bigger", yeah, but you can't say that the phrase out of context doesn't immediately jump out as an innuendo. While "bigger is better" and other suggestive phrases have definitely been normalized in some slogans for companies, "no does not mean no" is a bit of a slippery slope and i struggle to find an argument that can convince me that it wasn't in mind when it was added to that document (and they didn't think it would look bad to someone looking in).
Also you say you were going to go over things that Jimmy should be criticized for at the end of the video, but spend barely a minute talking about one thing. It really does not look good for someone who's "not taking a side" to front load a massive amount of information saying "this man bad" and then barely touching anything on the other side. Your video is titled "The Truth About MrBeast & Dogpack404" but its honestly just about Dogpack. Just saying vaguely at the end of the video "there's so many things that jimmy should be held acountable for" and then not ellaborating doesn't work in your favor.
Again, I appreciate more points of view, wether they're correct or not, and in this insane media sphere its impossible to see the full picture. but fuck, any opinion that's not the same regurgitated opinion adds something (or at least, its not the same as what i've been seeing.) send tweet. Edit- I am very interested in how you got your hands on the recording of Dogpack's firing, it is incredibly convenient that you would have access to that. I'm trying to find a clip saying how you got it but I'm not seeing it other than you writing in text "leaked audio". Leaked where? ok ok no more being weirdly fascinated with this video wayyy too late and more sleeping. Your video is definitely fun.
I think Dogpack404 sucks, his arguments on their face were often unimpressive, he was a jerk when people tried to talk to him about it (e.g.: Ludwig), and this is a thorough debunking of his videos.
However, I have 2 gripes with this video:
@4:16 “State banishments” isn’t a reason why someone wouldn’t be “allowed” back in a state in modern times. A more logical reason would be either an active arrest warrant or threats from extrajudicial organizations like a gang.
@10:56 the warcrime rebuttal is weak. Yes forcing imprisoned people to live without lights on is a violation of the Geneva convention. Jake’s description as such is still accurate because he wasn’t informed that would be the case until the shoot already started and the intense pressure he experienced to keep going. Even if Dustin made it as a joke, that doesn’t mean it’s not technically correct. And to chalk it up as “well Dustin was joking so that debunks it” is disingenuous. One could describe it as an exaggeration, but not completely false. It’s semantics. Give the unedited footage to an International Criminal Lawyer and let them decide one way or another. They’d be more qualified than anyone else that’s chirped on the topic, me included.
Other than that, this video is well done and a thorough debunking.
I completely agree with the warcrime one . When I watched the original dogpack video I thought it was kind of a joke so I didnt really care and thought thats what the masses thought as well . But soggy paints it as if he was dead serious about that statement . And soggy talks about psychological tricks used by dogpack in the video while he has used several in this one as well . Like imagine if someone was throwing 10 k in your face daily but you were in solidary confinement , yes a person will be pressured to stay there and making them run a marathon for a silly challenge in the video , a person would pressure himself to do that as well .
I can't lie, the way Dogpack and Rosana have been handling this situation always felt really seedy to me. Im not saying Mr. Beast is clean or anything, but the two biggest voices against him were clearly motivated by profit, which made their work just feel... Questionable to me
I've never been one to dive deep into the Mr. Beast drama but I'm really really dissapointed not mad but just dissapointed at DogLies304. How are you gonna get fired and make lies telling a percieved truth when in actuality it isn't. I bet he just got salty for some reason or just don't like Jimmy personally and made hate videos about him. All this was just unnecessary.
i love a story where literally everyone is a villain. mr beast is a gross piece of shit, but jesus christ never trust information from anyone that constantly insists that they're honest. only liars do that shit.
You getting ex and current mr beast workers on video easily is a little sketch tbh, doesn't help that Mr Beast is shilling this video to content creators to take some heat off of him. I feel like this is going to be a repeat of Dogpack all over again, even if your intentions are well.
not saying that dogpack is right, or not a liar, never even watched that video. but i am interested in this video. im at the 10m mark and already noticed this content creator is using manipulation to control the narrative to favor beast's instead, wherein dogpack might have done the opposite. ill note down all his empty, potentially manipulative, points that ive noticed and stand out more: 1) tries to set himself up as a neutral party, by showing that he dislikes lunchly (sus), solely criticizes the ksi and logan teamup as the bad choice, also mold, all points that can be pushed off to honest mistakes and factory problems- giving beast wiggle room to cast responsibility away. 2) with the ex employee interview there was no nuance, guy was completely devestated by dogpacks actions, no critical questions were asking from soggys side, it had a clear goal: to discredit the recording, and highlight how horrible the ex emp suffered from said release of tape. which could be fine. but clearly shows soggy was solely interested to push a narrative. 3) with the rso: the name tag thing, i agree with soggy, guy who said that seems to really like attention, and theres substantial proof that the name was from back then. with the viking however, a to me honest looking, albeit biased in favor of his brother-in-law, tweet. but not really showing bias to against beast, more to bring to light what he heard, and what he thinks about his brother. here, soggy uses the points: its absurd! jimmys mom was there, and shed never let an rso near her son! which is completely fallable; it could be that they thought he seemed genuine, maybe believed that it mightve been a wrong conviction, or giving people second chances, or they simply didnt care. who knows. also he used the argument that even dogpack's "friends", the drama kid, dislike viking, which makes vikings tweet less genuine for some reason? so not im not saying the tweet is undeniable truth, it still shows substantially less bias than the narrative driven counter points soggy makes. also personally i think any ex criminal should be given a chance to join society again, and even if jimmy knew, i wouldnt hold it against him.
anyway im already tired of this now. and just got to the 3th point. not gonna bother anymore haha. no idea what other points soggy will make. but just keep the bias i pointed out in mind. it does really seem like soggy isnt a neutral party in this situation, and tries to disprove dogpacks fallacies with his own fallacies, atleast so far in the video. also personally i have nothing against mr. beast, dogpack, soggy or anyone in this situation. dont know any of them personally. I just wish people werent so god damn gullible and easily led on by all this dumb ass manipulation going on. it really feels like human intellect is highly overrated if you watch things happening internet. - try to stay critical boys and girls!
@@altairofastora He started trending together any fame, and especially money, from doing constant ridiculous niche challenges online and leaching off of emotionality and algorithm exploiting basically lol. All of his PR and media/marketing moves reeks of autism spectrum as he just appeals and buys into the woah, wow and shock factors only other than feel good illusioned charity that psychologically scratches the brains with his viewbase and for his content in its foundation plus being out of touch because of classism/being an entrepreneur has made this an absolute shit show and I fear for any kid to model after this degeneracy conglomerate. His fanbase consists of your average consumer who's the furthest from cognizant and especially aware of any further implications outside of basic things so literally ANY, especially hard, defender of this whole charade should be deemed suspect or at the least, odd.
@@hunterreeves454 especially given MrBeast is sending DMs to YouTubers like Pyro with this video in the message, which all just feels like damage control via a second party. Very suspicious.
41:16 this is also a legal lottery, it has a prize and chance. It doesn’t have any payments either, dogpack404 seems to be twisting the narrative a tad bit.
WAIT a second... I could be wrong, but like did Mr Beast employees reach out to you to paint him in a better light and now Mr Beast is promoting your video around like you did his dirty work for him? So, instead of answering any questions himself he can be like "I refer to this video here, made by not myself but a reputable YouTuber..." I just sorta feel like maybe this topic should be left alone, like Mr Beast is a big boy with lots of high paid lawyers around him, probably, so he can stand up for himself if DogPack 404 was completely slandering him...
I can't express how much I appreciate you debunking these claims. I'm only about 30 minutes into the video, but it's been incredibly disheartening and disturbing to watch so many YouTubers run with the pedophilia accusations with zero awareness of what actually constitutes CSEM/what actually helps and HURTS survivors (like, what say, DISTRIBUTING ASSUMED CHILD ABUSE IMAGERY via YOUTUBE THUMBNAILS). Thank you for the mention of flooded tip lines to the FBI, too! Organizations like the NCMEC and IWF have had to come out and beg people to stop sending nonactionable claims (like cartoons, even) and wasting valuable resources which could be spent helping ACTUAL children. I wanted to say something to help correct the misinformation, but was too terrified of a dogpile. It's such a relief to see real research with genuine concern for survivors. This makes a huge difference ❤🩹
MrBeast still willingly covered up Ava Tyson's wrongdoings and edited out the evidence of the video. That has little to do with this video but I'm just making sure everyone remembers that doing or not doing all this stuff is child's play compared to helping a Pedophile cover up their crimes.
Not this unfortunately Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
I mean i know Dogpack was full of shit and i commented on it at the time. But holy moly thats even more intentional missleading and lying than i expected. The Anime thing made me laugh. I not a anime fan so i belived the part with that being its story. But even that isnt true? At this point the most credible accusation seems to be that the racoon was fake!
Still find the one comment at the end of your video kinda weird, "many youtubers and myself did not know about illegal scams" or was it suppose to be "many youtubers and myself did not know you COULD do illegal scams on youtube." Sounds odd you wouldn't know that you could illegally do fake giveaways/lottery, youtube video or otherwise.
If I get replies stating I didnt watch the video,(edit, wring time stamp, had it at the 50 second marker instead of the 21 second marker) 1:24:21 is where Soggy states this. Not sorry.
@Lioney no it doesn't. It just makes YouTubers look dumb in general for not knowing you can commit this kind of crime, YouTube or otherwise while roping in "Most YouTubers and myself". Hate all you want but that's how I see it.
defending mr beast over the delaware situation is crazy, because Delaware literally told mr beast about why his nickname was Delaware. If you did an ounce of investigation you'd know this. Weirdo.
He should've kept the title "Content Cop - MrBeast" but it was Dogpack404, had the beauty and similarities to the original "Content Cop - Jake Paul" but it was Ricegum insead
This made me feel the feels dude... not cause I give any shit about Mr Beast or DogPack, but because it made me realize that Content Cop is not dead... it lives on in these new iterations
this is the worst defense i've seen. you would've been a terrible lawyer. good thing you decided to stick with.... "content creation". the "war crime" stuff itself its presented as a joke and dawson explains its not the legal definition in the video. this is all the defense points you make during the video: this guy wasn't aware of being recorded and it was really bad for him. didn't lie. it was bad for him. the consequences. of speaking what he meant; this guy doesn't like this other guy (although both of them agree on the same accusation) - which in any jury defense would validate their accusation btw, you're barely thinking by this point; revealing this stuff has hurt other business (a pointless argument, no one owes mr beast's company any slack, he shoulda thought about this before); negating tangences to prove something was a lie (but said thing wasn't.... said. you're negating something you came up with). your audience must be INCREDIBLY young to be this gullible. or barely formally educated. which does makes sense by the way you present yourself. anyway, good luck working with Jimmy. I hope Hiltzik doesn't know about this, because it is ridiculous.
Jimmy is still a baad person, hes done actually bad things, dog pack coulda just told the truth over the issues and been honest, but he just...got greedy with accusations, like both are now lying and threatening people over the truth...
At least Ava isn't innocent so we can all agreee on that-
Does Mr beast make mistakes, yes (he is human). Does Mr Beast have mid chocolate, yes. Does Mr Beast partner with the cringiest guys on the internet, also yes. But I don’t think at all he is the evil genius like dog pack is fabricating. Mr beast is #1 so he will have all the eyes on him and because of that the more hatters and jealous people plotting on his down fall. I kinda feel bad for Mr Beast after everything has come out.
i have to say that this video is a good at disproving dogpack but... We have to look at the MrBeast with a critical eye here because he NEVER replied to the allegations himself and purposefully had his employees delete comments with the allegations under his videos i know you mentioned even illegal lottery and lunchly mold so the point is dogpack might not have had the best intention or ways of making him accountable with false allegations but he did successfully show that maybe MrBeast isnt a saint as everyone viewed him to be one not to mention the crypto pump and dumps he allegedly participated in. Also i find it hard to be on soggy cereals side because the same problems he pointed out of dogpack using the messages of coworkers or taking out of context voice messages has been done here (probably not the context part but whose to say that)
Mrbeast asking people to talk about this video makes sense. Good video... untill someone provides an even better story and everyone undoubtetly will switch sides again.
This video is the proof that people always jump on hate and judge someone before actually hearing or investigating another side of the story . Also the amount of views between this video and dogpack video shows how people enjoys someone downfall whether they are guilty or not guilty.
Interesting how if dogpack could be proved wrong so easily mr beast just let his name be smeared also interesting how all these people can just randomly talk about the situation now also interesting how the only parts we talked about were small allegations (excluding Delaware) which jimmy is still wrong because he didn’t background check a employee for a kids channel like what lol this whole video feels like beast propaganda
@@idkwhattonamethisshti wow mr genius you can't read or understand a video isn't my fault. Maybe have a better attention span than a tiktok kid and try to understand before commenting.
@@c4chottu10the video is actually propaganda. Mr. Beast paid for the flight to the US and asked pyrocynical to cover the video. Video is not trustworthy, no matter how you feel about it, it’s fruit from a poisonous tree.
the video has nothing to do with proving mr beast as innocent or anything it is to show that dogpack is just manipulating for clout and both of that is seprate proving dogpack wrong doesn't make jimmy right it just make dogpack exposed of his attempt to get limelight
its amazing how you can come up with all of this evidence and people will be like "oh you made a tiny mistake therefore your video is completely invalid". its really stupid. these people would see a person eating food with a trident, you say "this man was eating with a fork", and then they come up with the conclusion that since you got the utensil wrong, he never ate the food and that you are a liar.
Just because its legal (which I would love some evidence on) does not mean its morally acceptable to forge signatures. If I buy a signature I don't want a friend faking the signature I want the ACTUAL Person's signature.
I would say this is a very weak point and should not have been crossed off.
I know it's small beans in the scheme of things, but the imitation MrBeast signatures are scummy, regardless of whether they are 'with permission'. The point of autographs is that they are made by the person themselves, and imitations are inherently of much lower value (contrary to 1:00:46). They might as well print the shirts with the signature as part of the design if they aren't intended to be autographs. It's of so low stakes that questions of legality/fraud aren't meaningful, but still not good.
The point about the raft is that they could have been transparent about the safety issues. Or they could have ended the challenge early because they left the raft
If yall want to be simping and glazing a side in these wild MrBeast controversies, at least try to desire seeking for the truth, or at the very least watch the whole video until the end. Don’t get mad cause the video isn’t 60 seconds long.
This dude has dozens more reciepts, pictures, and texts than the disgruntled former employee.
It's kind of weird for Mr, Beast to privately message this video to all the drama channels. Almost like it didn't recive that much attention or is spoken about.
Besides the following two things, mostly the second one, the video was well done. Keep up the honest work.
6:41 Although that is a pretty scummy way to go about things without consent, it is completely legal here (assuming the slander is what he actually believes to be true, or else it would be defamation), and the only way you can usually expose large coverups because nobody is going to willingly expose crimes of their company if they are getting paid enough to cover it up. And they are obviously going to roll back on whatever they said when they know they are being recorded. Not saying that is what is happening here but with how much money flows around MrBeast it is hard to guarantee anything.
1:00:50 How is that not devaluing the signature, I would understand it being fine to allow others to sign legal papers, but this is for a giveaway, meaning any signature that is given away that is not actually MrBeast can't be sold as an authentic MrBeast signature. And even if they wanted to keep it for themselves, if they ever learned that it was not authentic, it would remove a lot of sense of connection that comes with owning an authentic article. Which would devalue it on an emotional level too.
Okay kinda lost me for a moment about the signature thing that just ain't right, and what about promoting gambling to kids? Other than those two things good vid.
Was any one actually asking for Jimmy Breast to be tried at The Hauge for war crimes? As for adding "free entry" thing in the youtube description and fake UI. 1) who reads youtube descriptions? This is still slimy and doing the bare legal minuium doesn't make it not immoral. 2) If he got the video from a re-upload then it makes sense to add it to a "fake UI" to it. If he wanted to hide the description you'd just crop it out
"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
I'm happy hes not defending chris Tyson and somewhat mrbeast...but glad u giving context to everything,dam I been busy wit election memes I forgot about this
Garrett telling us how he was hurt financially while he sits in his flat on literally the most expensive real estate in the world is pretty unintentionally hilarious.
Evidence not a bit stronger, another case of just "he said, he said" either made on orders of MrBeast or made with the opportunistic hope to brown-nose MrBeast and gain fame/money out of this.
That is when all the fans started turning on each other because of Dogpack saying that Ludwig was controlled op. Ether you were with Dogpack or a MrBeast glazer and could not question Dogpack. 😠 Dogpack scared Ludwig out of 100K.
@@daysandwords So you think that current MrBeast employees can just go out and freely put in statements behind the back of HR without repercussions when they work for a company this influential? That’s funny. 😂
Can you confirm whether you were approached by Mr. Beast to make this video or if he provided you information (or contacted you at all?)? Or did you do this all on your own volition? I feel like you would’ve mentioned if Mr. beast was involved in this but I just wanna hear it from you. I feel like that context would help when assessing the video 🙏
There are some parts here where you frame dogpack in a more negative light than necessary but overall great video. I love when both sides get dunked on. New Pegasus video tomorrow I bet
the fixation on the war crime thing is weird. yes it's obviously not exactly a war crime. but the treatment was still possibly deserving of such a title if the treatment went how he claimed and the detainee clause is ignored. and you treat it as if a war crime is always some terrible horrendous thing with that war whataboutism when in reality, violating the geneva convention can be as simple as using a red cross to symbolize health in a video game
Man, now that Mr. Beast got back up I'm glad someone else is down because I only kick people while they're down. Thanks for proving Jimmy is actually perfect and the real enemy we should all hate is DogPack404!
@@StrikerEureka13 my comment got deleted I think. Jake the viking, Delaware's son in law, confirmed this months ago. He was hired after "explaining" his situation to Mr. Beast and his mom.
@@StrikerEureka13 Um, idk, maybe because Jake the Viking, Delaware's son in law, openly admitted already that Delaware sat down Jimmy & his mom before he was hired to reveal the truth...and they decided to hire him anyway because they were moved by his sob story...literally just Google "jake the viking delaware defense", and you can see the tweet he made. This was awhile ago now, and honestly I forgot he confirmed it was before was even hired, so this vid really doubles down on the manipulation & lies.
@shadowed69 How do you know he didn't fire him immediately after finding out? It was incredibly dumb to not do a background check, but still not an excuse to make things up about him.
@@StrikerEureka13 Soggy here is lying and manipulating you too. Exaggerating and nitpicking every Dogpack claim and ignoring the genuine shit that still matters. Like that Jimmy knowingly kept an RSO on his team. It doesn't matter if he knew when he first hired him or not. He still found out at one point and kept him on. Notice how that claim wasn't on Soggy's board of "all of Dogpack's claims". Only the "intentionally hired" one. Soggy does this for multiple claims, so he can have a big board full of X's by then end and say "look! I disproved all of dogpack's claims!" when they are cherry-picked portions of initial claims that have varying levels of the-details-don't-matter-it-was-still-bad energy.
@Michael97Moore I'm sorry did we watch the same video? Because if we did then it would be pretty clear to the both of us that Dawson/dog pack lied about a lot of stuff
This was a brilliant investigation into the whole situation. ever since the Projared situation I always entertained the suspension of disbelief. Mr Beast is not a saint or a super villain hes a person who makes some bad decisions. though dogpack is a worse than Mr. Beast in my opinion for basically just doctoring and lying about 95% of what he was saying and manipulating people on this level. I think the coffeezilla coverage of the crypto was really good in fact him and someordinarygamers covered that situation way better than the main accusers did.
Great video. Brave of you go go against the current like this. Well documented debunking of most of the claims against Jimmy. I love your flemish accent, keep up the great work! A fellow Belgian
not against you but was i watching the video you were saying that the war crime thing was a joke and to not be taken serious. Do you realise he may have said that because there are similarities between severe misstreating the employees and war crimes? Like if someone says that they have some pain that feels like they are being stabbed doesnt mean they are actually being stabbed or that the pain isnt real because of it
1:09:20 - "no doesnt mean no is wildly taken out of context, we mean it as a sales tactic, it's more like "why can't you do that and how can we help you""
But the document explicitly mentions convincing managers of dollar tree locations to "BEND RULES" as an example? Bending rules has consequences even if you're the manager of a store.
Also, why isn't this accusation on the board? Small stuff like "digitally lifted car" is on there but not this leaked document case?
Just because his mate joked that it's a warcrime doesn't mean it's not a warcrime, what they did to that man was a warcrime by definition , if a man gets shot and his mate jokes about him getting shot doesn't mean he didn't get shot... My god this video sucks
on a more serious note, suggesting that what jake weddel experienced is a war crime is a genuine insult to the people in the russian-ukraine war and the israel hamas war. i highly doubt that those people would be paid 50k. (weddle bagged 50k)
@@Longstaff5That's like saying Mrbeast forces people to do all kinds of dangerous challenges without their consent, that's illegal, but they could just leave whenever they want to, so of course that doesn't count. It's a morally questionable thing to do, but insinuating it's actual war crimes when he was allowed to leave and he was also getting paid for it is sort of pretentious.
guys this video was all planned or calculated by mrbeast. he's using this video for people into thinking that dogpack404 is the bad guy. don't fall for it guys. this man making the video is real sus you can tell he may or may not work for mrbeast or is just a fan and mrbeast is making all his employees do his dirty work for him this video is very calculated . for everyone's sake don't fall for this he is giving manipulation vibes all over and you can hate me or agree with me all you want but this video is very very sus . do not feed in to jimmys manipulation and don't let this guy making the video fool you. also I'm not a fan of mrbeast either
@ yeah totally agree, I do think it’s ironic that even though most of Dawsons claims are fraudulent or accusations his video had a chain reaction and now real allegations are coming up 😂
i think that's the point. soggy never said mrbeast or his actions were good, just disproved most of dawson's arguments, which i think is the right thing to do
I still think that work document sounds toxic imo. Every dogpack said about it still holds true in my eyes. Not taking no for an answer taken to the extreme is a horrible mantra. The example of trying to go around someone who works at a store or using the fandom to get them to say yes to something they shouldn’t say yes to and might get fired for is just fucking irresponsible.
another thing, i sort of kinda feel like dogpack404 isnt entirely lying, instead hes just taking other rumors and running with them not knowing whether or not their true.
Just a bunch of kids LARPing as business professionals. I'm a software engineer, self-taught, extremely successful for a fort 500 - and i can tell from almost every side, angle, and vector - none of this is professional or normal business behavior. This is what happens when a platform (YouTube,Twitch, etc) exists and gives legitimacy, and elevates grifters to relevance. Content creators are essentially like the WWE/WCW/ECW/AEW, etc -- Just abunch of performative douchebaggery cranked up to 11 screaming to the audience "IM A REAL PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS PERSON" - It is entertaining, but lawrd is it also cringy.
istg if each and every one of you were suddenly exposed as an multi-millionaire criminal with countless charges, yall wouldn’t be jumping the gun and “speaking out and apologizing immediately”. What kind of brainrot logic is that?!?!
In the report that was on MrBeast's twitter and this video. MrBeast's lawyers wouldn't let him talk until they finished their investigation of the company. I doubt they still will let him talk about the crypto, Beast Games because of the lawsuit, and the illegal lotteries. Just because anything he says can go against him in court. He did have a response prepared according to Keepstar and for some reason didn't make it. Probably that was when Soggy reached out to go to NC. MrBeast's lawyers might let him talk about Kris and Delaware however.
The crazy thing is that this man probably spent 15 mins for some facts while the commentary YouTubers spent probably an hour scrolling through twitter posts to make a dumb 20 minute video
I knew something was off. In Dogpack's 1st video he said that he knew about Chris. I bet he was lying. Why would you talked about cgi and bad giveaways first instead of going straight to guy sending porn to minors. Dogpack was busy recording people without consent to find serious issues. This also explains why Dogpack and Rosanna put what they thought was CSAM on the thumbnail. They don't care about exposing wrong doings they just wanted to ruin Jimmy's image. Jimmy has done some has irresponsible things and the Amazon show issues are proof of that. However Dogpack's spiteful a$$ should not be making any more claims.
@@randomised7562Soggy of course makes the occasional joke or insult towards DogPack but he literally goes into all accusations in depth. Provided numerous witnesses/ testimonies literally deducing all of the misinformation within the videos with a clear explanation.
Calling this “minimal evidence” just makes your ridiculous bias ever so clear or just is a dead giveaway that you’re too lazy to even watch the full video without having Subway Surfers in the background 😂
Alright Buddy, I’m happy to argue with you. Let’s discuss the “minimal evidence” here in the comment section. Elaborate, Explain how Soggy has given minimal evidence.
@@purple-69- he definitely didn't and neither did you, all soggy did was dismiss dogpack's points and attack his character with minimal evidence. This doesn't disprove the many shady things that beast has done at all. Its clearly also a video that was paid by beast to be made since he's promoting it especially to other creators like dylan zitkus and the fact that he's commented (which he deleted) on his video, as well as the video title being "The real truth about mr beast" originally. Point is that soggy is far from a trustworthy source right now and is heavily biased against and is being paid off by beast
@@purple-69- huh? What does me watching an hour and a half long video have to do with my statement. I literally just said that it is one sided and take it with a grain of salt. If. You're willing to believe anything and everything you're not worth my time.
You just watched an hour long video of a one sided take. I suggest you try to do some investigating yourself. Take this video with a grain of salt like everything else.
so happy someone finally called dogpack on his bullshit, he didn’t do himself any favors by trying to nickel and dime every move mr beast made. it just showed to me from the first video that he is petty upset employee. they whole slowed down status bar on video adds thing. and acting like it’s the end of the world. it’s just stupid. omg a huge financially driven company used a deceitful tactic to get threw everyone’s feed me now content brains. Wow no one else has ever done anything like that. he apparently doesn’t understand how media and entertainment works. Also from my own experience as a 25 year old general manager at a restaurant in charge of 30 employees and how tough that was at that age after only worrying about myself i can’t imagine jimmy’s experience with how big his company got in such a short time. is he innocent, not at all, but i don’t for a second believe he is this demonic mastermind trying to vindictively tear people down. dogpacks a joke, thank you soggy for this. And as pettt as dog pack is i can’t wait to see his hit on you. also not gonna lie i didn’t watch this video when it first dropped because i thought it was more bullshit replaying dogpacs video in your own video like everyone else 😂😂😂 i only watched it because of pyros video explaining the content of yours.
hey that part when you asked that lady about how she felt about working with dog pack. why didnt you ask her how she felt working with that one co worker and their vibes. lol you know that one co worker. just so we can gauge how good her intuition is.
5:55 I agree with a lot of your points, but this one doesn't really work since Jimmy has a history of having his own employees pose as "normal employees". Dustin himself was posing as a worker at the bunker in the "24 hours in a doomsday bunker" video. Just because Delaware is in this video wearing a BestBuy shirt isn't conclusive proof that he wasn't already on Jimmy's payroll.
Dude wtf why did this all even happen people made the stupidest drama ever especially when you have soggy who makes it clear why the accusations are stupid
Cool, what about faking videos on the philanthropy channel? Like the visual changes and the number of wells? Or ineffectivity of team sea and team trees? I swear i didn´t hear a thing about this in this video. And this can negatively impact charities that are more helpful, or at least effective and 100% transparent with donators.
I love how people ran with DogPack's video without being rational. I mean, I get there are issues with Mr. Beast, but DogPack not only mixed his videos with half-truths and hearsay but also included unfactual stuff that is ultimately hurting other justified criticism of Mr. Beast. I always say this: ask yourself why those are there. I always give Coffeezilla as an example: he researches his stuff, asks for comments, understands the serious situations, and doesn't try to muddy the waters. Coffie always takes his time and doesn't plan his videos to ride the hype. But on the other hand, we have a loser who got fired and planned his video with the Kris stuff just so he could get the most attention.
@@cool3Dhorse he "claims" to be? It was a live stream so his comment most be there somewhere all I am saying that he needs more evidance to back it up.
@DanielJacobs-rz1zl how do I know this isn't a random dude from the street maybe show his account and highlight his account and maybe provide evidance that he actualy owned that account.
Alright, I was actually down with a lot of the claims in this video. But the war crimes section lost me. You’re doing the same shitty unreliable reporting dog pack was doing. Just because the friend says it as a joke initially has nothing to do with the fact that it actually ended up being true. Like it was in the context of saying it as a joke, but it was actually a war crime committed against him. And if you think he really had the choice to just leave at any time, then you should actually listen to what he was saying about SA victims. Don’t throw stones when you live in a city made of glass.
21:37 WAIT I CLOCKED THAT WHEN I FIRST WATCHED HIS VID…i’m a calorie nerd & when he did that i was like “oh usually people don’t know much abt nutrition, maybe he didn’t realize” but i noticed he claims to have studied nutrition which means he wouldn’t have made a mistake like that….and now we’re seeing it might have been intentional???? damn ..
Everyone having a lot of discussions about this whole thing in the comments. And I'll just leave here a compliment to this dude Hoodie for coming into an interview wearing a Technoblade hoodie. Much respect, man.
Respect for what, exactly? I'm sorry if it's rude. What does using a Technoblade hoodie have to do with anything other than him being a well-respected person?
So my name is Dakota so people make jokes I’m not allowed in North and South Dakota. No that’s not it at all, in fact I’ve never been there. Sometimes my friends call me Kota as a nickname when people say I’m not allowed in those states.
when he went on ludwigs stream and was using an NDA as a cover i knew he was scummy. didnt care enough to look into it tbh but having signed an NDA and working under one for years... yeah what he used NDA for doesnt add up.
This is a good video apart from the assumptions made about Jake Weddle's trauma, his experience is his own. The fact he got paid, while being in a financially difficult situation, is the power imbalance that was held over his head which made getting out so difficult. The rest, I agree with, but Jake Weddle really did experience something pretty horrific and I think this video diminishes that and has a really poor understanding of power imbalances.
I don’t care who believes me or not ( I was just told this growing up, I don’t know this is true💀) allegedly my moms dad was banished from two states, I don’t remember what they were, for getting hit by the mail truck too many times💀 he was blind btw and his name was bill
I'm not going to take either Beast's or Dawson's side on this outside of specifics. As others have mentioned, there's some strangeness in the video itself. How was Soggy able to get direct access to current Beast employees when noted journalist and scambuster Coffeezilla wasn't? CZ is probably the most trusted name in these things and you'd think that Beast would want one of the biggest scambusters on his side... unless there was something they wanted to hide from him or were afraid that current employees would slip up on through classic social engineering. Before today, I had never heard of Soggy's channel. I'm not going to say that Soggy is a Beast glazer because I only have anecdotal observations rather than hard proof and anything besides that is baseless borderline slander. However, based on what was put in the video and both the direct access on-site plus the recording of the termination meeting raises a lot of red flags for me and makes me press a few X's to doubt. There's no doubt that what Dawson has been doing as of late has been very questionable, I saw that myself in the Rosanne collab, and because of that the rest of his allegations can and will be brought into question and put under increased scrutiny. And honestly, it needs to be under increased scrutiny because there's a lot a stake for everyone involved. For Beast (as a company), it is the reputation of the brand. For Jimmy it is his personal reputation, same with Dawson and Rosanne. Jimmy is being portrayed as this evil mastermind willing to cross legal and ethical boundaries to make money; and while that may be true to an extent, we don't know to what extent, if any. It's all been dubious. Though, his attempted and current business associations with those like Logan Paul and KSI do not look too favorably for those who have looked into their shenanigans financially as those have been legitimately shady. For Dawson and Rosanne, it's them being disgruntled collaborators (employee in the case of Dawson). I can understand Rosanne's disgruntledness, especially if she was sold on the "authenticity" of the game she was involved in but it turned out to all be scripted and she wasn't read into it (which would be a strike against Beast in misleading the participants). And it shouldn't have to be stated that "understand" doesn't mean "condone," but I will state it regardless. And it is very clear that Dawson feels personally slighted, hence his actions and it is clear that he is gaining something from all this: money and clout. Even if Soggy was paid off by Beast (paying for his airfare and hotels to Beast HQ, exclusive access to employees, and internal information that literally no one else has or can verify the authenticity of) to give some kind of soft glazing and write a carefully constructed counter argument with their approval, his video is still important in pointing out the glaring issues that Dawson has brought on himself. He constructed a fake YouTube page to show off one of this pieces of evidence. He has cited the work of another creator who after the fact stated that they didn't say what he said. He, allegedly (because I can't trust anyone involved in any of this), used a conversation recorded without consent (which can legally backfire depending on what state him and the other were in) as evidence which cost that person opportunities and unspecified relationships. The questionable claims about legalities involving lotteries (granted, it is different per state and the internet is Interstate Commerce and throws a wrench into things like that). The only claims he has left that have some merit are as follows: *Eva being a massive degen (disputed by no one). *Jake's experience potentially having criminal ramifications as it would be coersion under duress. He was under financial distress and had a reason to keep going on top of the power imblance because of the money involved, but they kept going to the point where he's had documented issues. The money paid after the fact doesn't look good as it would appear to be "hush money" despite being aired out in public. And Jake would need to formally submit a criminal complaint to the authorities in the jurisdiction as well. Which, to be honest, I don't think will ever happen. Jake just wants to let it go at this point, I can tell. *Questionsble giveaway practices (I am not stating illegal, but some of the stuff done is morally dubious). *Beast employing an RSO, the only question remains is WHEN did they know about what he did. North Carolina is an "at will" state, meaning that Beast (as a company) could have fired him at any time but chose not to. Especially if it became common knowledge and therefore became a brand risk considering focus on a younger (sub-20, let's be honest, here) audience. TL;DR - Soggy's video was good and lends a lot of light on to the whole situation, especially with undisclosed personal histories. The only thing that hurts this is, again, access to things that no one else has had access to which may lead people to believe this is the foreshadowed PR video that Dawson has been expecting for some time now, but from another creator instead of Beast themselves. By the way, in before Legal Mindset reviews this video on stream because I know he will as part of the ever expanding Beast v. Dogpack404 saga. Same with Armcha1rExpert. The former for the legal and the latter for PR.
that animation video was made by goobus doobus and was making fun of people who were hating on Mr. beast for curing 1,000 blind people. so don't put his thumbnail there unless you actually know what the vids about.
lol, jimmiy is actually asking all dramatubers to cover his a ss. He reached out to morepegasus and pyro, but called of the actual interview at last minute.. You clearly just got paid by him.
Honestly this video is just plain deceptive and doesn't address any of the main arguments in each allegation. Doesn't help with the fact that a self proclaimed detective continuously acts obnoxiously and condescendingly needing to insult his opponents intelligence every 5 minutes.
1. Delaware: Soggy finally addresses Delaware's name rumors but not his sex offender accusations, the interview with Garett further strengthens this as "just" rumors but didn't mention what it was related to, however jake the viking addressed on his tweet about the sex offender allegations and claimed no charges were pressed so nothing's been proven or disproven.
2. War crimes: We only have anecdotal evidence of this event since no video was released. Soggy claims Jake Weddle talks highly about MrBeast but completely sweeps under the rug the fact that Weddle admitted to accepting Jimmy's compensation (he claimed he used Jimmy's "blood" money to fund his work on twitter) after dogpack's second video went viral. So Weddle was talking shit about Jimmy and suddenly started talking highly of him AFTER he was paid?
3. Illegal lottery 3: Soggy claims dogpack purposely hiding the "free entry" description, however the main complaint was customers not receiving the shirt after purchase, which should be easily proven false by MrBeast if he showed tracking numbers.
4. CGI: Honestly it does kinda look like CGI, and I'd understand why people would believe it is so, after all soggy did admit the car was edited from red to blue. Regardless, this is not very important.
5. Feastables: So I thought this was very easy to see for myself, I just went to walmart's app, compared the 2 bars, Hershey's creamy milk chocolate (45g) and Feastables milk chocolate bar (60g), I live in Canada so the serving size is 1 bar not 1/2 as shown by soggy. I compared hershey's at 45g with feastables at 45g/60g and this is how they differ:
The difference is absolutely insignificant, given how a feastables bar is bigger than hershey's, it makes it ultimately unhealthier. I really found it stupid how soggy compared 30g of feastables with 43g of hershey's, of course it's healthier when it's half the bar. The only macro that feastables is lower in is the sugar content (45g/60g), which is insignificant because people don't buy "healthier" alternatives to save themselves 1-5g. For it to be significantly healthier it should be at least half the sugar content. Overall they are both the same and feastables is just as unhealthy as hersheys at 45g, and more when comparing bar to bar.
6. CP allegations: Here is when I lost all respect and credibility for dogpack (besides him collabing with rosana pansino and even renting a whole theater to watch a 1 hour long MrBeast downfall documentary, yikes...) the claims were baseless, Rosana from day 1 has given 0 evidence for any of her claims, they are always screenshots or "I heard", they manipulated the group chat's content and fabricated a story of CP distribution. She started acting like a man child (or woman child), giving out childish responses when she was being called out on Dedrio's stream.
7. More collateral damage: 58 claimed at the end of the tiktok video that nothing was edited which is highly improbable given you HAVE to edit a gameshow AND video. Regardless, not a very important allegation as we can not make much of it. As for the 1 million dollar contestant it does seem like he claims he was compensated and is satisfied, so not much to add to that.
8. Mack: He's shown as a random contestant but is constantly seen in multiple videos and sometimes winning challenges. Given that someone allowed him to stay in the mansion implies he has connections, giving him some form of favoritism and advantage. In one of the games Mack won a car for being the first one to be disqualified, soggy seems to conveniently miss out on important context every single time.
9. For the iphone giveaway, regarding the pewdiepie clip, I think it was there to strengthen the point that giveaways are often deceitful and unethical. Giveaways can be easily faked, so the only way to disprove this is with tracking numbers and not more vague testimonial screenshots like soggy showed.
10. Locoya Hill: Given the lack of evidence and the removal of his video, it's hard to believe any of these claims are real, but it conflicts with the investigation letter uploaded by MrBeast on twitter. If Locoya and other HR are innocent, why were they removed? Replacing CEO's in companies is huge. So I see why people would still raise suspicion. I'm also unsure if revealing that recording of dogpack's termination is legal or if it's even real, but it does would explain why he's so salty and eager to take down MrBeast.
11. Moon scam: I don't really think the screenshot works in favor of Soggy, the screenshot shows an email to MrBeast team,, requesting a refund for that incident only to receive it 6 months later. So did they refund everyone at all?
12. Safety measurements: The boys vs girls game argument was about fairness. Yes, of course you should prevent the spreading of covid, but by inserting employees that potentially know how the game works, contestants are at huge disadvantage, which diminishes the credibility and fairness of the game. If they wanted it to be truly fair, shoot the video when the pandemic is over. As for the raft video, there are no clear shots of crew members spending the night on the raft, the video clip shown of them being on a boat doesn't show the main members and doesn't prove they that they went back on the raft to sleep. So there could be some potential dishonesty there.
13. The 3 stupidest arguments from soggy:
Illegal lottery #1: Probably the biggest allegation from dogpack with the most proof. He claims MrBeast made over a million dollars from that 1 stream. MrBeast and his crew promised to personally sign every single shirt. Unfortunately for him, since it was a livestream, one of his employees was caught falsifying Jimmy's signature and immediately looks around with a guilty face while covering his pen with his hand in attempts to hide it, the guy next to him lits up his eyes and gives a guilty "I think we got caught look" expression. It doesn't matter if Jimmy "consented" to letting someone else use his signature, he lied to everyone about personally signing them. I don't know why anyone would use that argument unless it was used as a loophole in court. No one on their right mind would think scamming kids with falsified signatures is legal nor ethical, soggy is delusional and while he called dogpack an idiot in this braindead argument, I believe he's a hundred times dumber.
Interview with contestant: He interviews a contestant for a video that was supposedly cancelled due to the pandemic. He claims nonchalantly that he received a split of the 1 million dollars that MrBeast "supposedly" split equally amongst the other 23 contestants. Like are you fucking serious? He then has the audacity to say "see?" as if he proved anything except for the fact that he's the dumbest person alive. Jimmy is going through allegations for crypto scams, not paying hospitals, and illegal lotteries and now he's a saint handing out tens of thousands of dollars for free. Great.
Investigation results: If you don't believe that soggy is a dishonest paid actor by now, he claims all of his arguments to align with the investigation led by a firm hired by Mrbeast himself, the letter is on twitter as of November 1st. The investigation lasted for months and resulted in 2 very short, vague pages. It states: "As you are well aware, the Company has grown exceedingly quickly from a Youtube start-up compromised of a group of talented young individuals to a much larger entity. It is not uncommon that policies and practices essential in a mature company would lag behind commercial success." What is not common is for a law firm to excuse a licensed company from not following the law. Any licensed company is liable for knowing what is legal or not, it's absolutely inexcusable. The letter downplays the severity of the issue despite the changes being: Hire New Chief Executive Officer, Chief People Officer, General Counsel, and Chief Financial Officer. This is a complete wiping of HR and raises more questions than it answers.
In the end people like soggy make these kinds of videos for the same reason as dogpack and any other youtuber, it brings them clout and money. It just happens that shitting on MrBeast is a bit saturated and there is undiscovered opportunity on defending him. Keep in mind this is the only video the official MrBeast channel has commented and pushed while continuing to refuse to address them publicly. It would be hard like really hard for me to believe soggy is not a paid individual given the most mind boggling bad arguments he comes up with and how mocking his tone is.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl 1. I don't recall him being proven to be a sex offender, but you claiming he is makes soggy's point look bad. It gives MrBeast a bad rep for hiring a pedophile while his industry is cathered towards mostly children. Whether Jimmy knows or not, the damage is done.
2. If you watched the dogpack video, Weddle kept insisting he couldn't leave because of his financial situation, NDA's, and if what he says is true, it's not as easy to just leave because of nuanced reasons like mental health.
3. Promoting to kids while also not delivering the shirts, again like I said, this one is a bit tricky to prove unless MrBeast comes out with receipts and tracking numbers. Screenshots are not very reliable.
4. Never said the video is fake, I just mentioned how it would make sense for people to THINK it's CGI, since the content has been heavily edited.
5. No, the sizes are clearly not the same. Hershey's is 45g and Feastables is 60g. I compared them both at 45g because that's the fairest comparison. If you read what I wrote the nutritional value is about the same at 45g. But if we compare both bars, feastables is unhealthier, with higher calories, fats and sugar content. MrBeast promoted it as "healthy" to which it isn't. Soggy didn't prove anything, he compared 1/2 of a bar to a full bar.
7. Again, I didn't say that. That allegation doesn't lead to anywhere so I will stop there.
8. It's suspicious, what are the chances you popped out of nowhere and consistently win prizes, even when it's seemingly ridiculous, like winning a car for being the first out?
9. I don't really understand what you mean that they were fake. Again, it's hard to prove or disprove this. If MrBeast really want to clarify this allegation, he should show receipts and tracking numbers.
10. We don't know for certain if they are true or not, I simply pointed out there is room for suspicion and questions.
11. I don't understand how that is "the point", customers paid for it, they should be expected an immediate refund after the incident. The fact that they didn't is scummy. There is no point mentioning them re-attempting a refund.
12. Doesn't change the fact the game could potentially be rigged and unfair.
13. If you can't see what is wrong with falsifying signatures and scamming fans then I have nothing to say to you.
The guy made a ridiculously huge claim with no basis, why should I believe it? He should be the one showing me his bank deposit not me.
Because it clears nothing up and leaves us with more questions. Are we reading the same thing?
In conclusion, you are doing a lot of work to defend a guy that throughout the video has disproven none of the important allegations. Cheers.
1: It's already been proven he was a sex offender.
2: He was not being forced into anything he could have actually have left.
3: The actual complaint was over him doing it with kids, the guy clearly shows people did get what they were promised.
4: It doesn't, changing the color alone doesn't mean the vid is fake.
5: Now you just repeating an argument from the vid he compared the two which were around the same size ajd and concluded one was healthy than the other because it was as he shows.
6: Is something we both agree on so I'm going to be skipping that.
7: Do you actually think editing a vid alone makes it fake because if so you could make that argument for a lot of things, it doesn't make them true.
8: He's really not but this alone does not actually prove he has any actual ties to them outside of just the vids, if you paid attention you'd know he addresses that.
9: His point was that they were fake the vid shows people did get theirs so therefore it wasn't.
10: How does it? this doesn't change the things they were accused of being not true.
11: The point of the vid was that they did not try at all to refund people after it didn't work but they did and were going to try it again.
12: They already had everything done it would cost a lot of money to have to take it all down it's just easier to keep some who were fine and use others to take the place of people who were supposed to be there but didn't show up.
13: How are they? as the vid addresses there's nothing actually wrong with signing that as long as you have their consent and it wasn't a lie it was still people signing them using his own style of writing.
That's what the guy got paid for unless you got evidence his story isn't true just going based on feelings isn't enough.
What about their results? they aren't going to go into much detail if there's nothing else to talk about all they are saying is that they will try to improve how things are it doesn't need to say more.
In conclusion you are doing a lot of work to defend a guy who throughout the vid is proven to just be someone angry he got fired for being a weirdo.
I think it’s safe to say. Everybody is a piece of shit in this situation, except for the people that are actually trying to correct this shit the right way.
Who tf should I believe its hurting my brain do I believe dogpack I thought he made a valid argument or do I believe Jimmy I've never watched one of his videos but I here bad things or do I believe soggy this is utterly scrambling 😢
Honestly the thing that made me suspicious of Dogpack was when he went on Ludwig's stream and when Ludwig tried to ask him a question about a video Dogpack immediately called Ludwig a controlled operative.
when i first watch dogpack404, i was never really sold on his "proof", because, it's all circumstantial evidence at best, there is also a bit of inconsistency, but mostly, i ignore the video. when it explode, that's when i start to be interested in it, because, hey, a new drama just drop, so might as well follow where this is going. never did i realize, that it's going to be this bundle of a mess. mr beast are still shady to me, with the way he is marketing his product toward children and stuff.
correction: the war crime joke. it's not actually joke. depraving POWs of basic human right, like solitary confinement without natural light, is actually a war crime. but, notice i mention POWs? yes, war crime only a war crime if it's done to a POWs or civilian in armed conflict (war), not civilian who is not involved in a war. it might be categorized as torture, and human right violation, but not a war crime. so it's technically not a joke, but it's still wrong to consider it a war crime, because no war are involved in the making of that video.
After reading some comments, I feel like you, Dogpack, and Mrbeast are all wrong at SOME extent. Someone can argue about your video, and the cycle will repeat. The truth is, the only thing fixing this is Mrbeast actually coming out. And then, it'll all be done.
@@SujitAdhikar-u1vhe says that but he also did not disclose in this video that his plane ticket was paid for by Dustin, a Mr Beast employee! He only admits this when asked the question during an interview! Even in his answer he drones on and on before reluctantly answering! If he wasn’t asked the question, he would never have disclosed that and that’s what makes me trust him less
Regarding the illegal lottery #1 - YES. It definitely can be a mistake. You yourself linked us to CaptainSparklez, who for all his time on the internet is a wholesome (albeit past his prime fame period) and trustworthy content creator. But I want to know what you think of Rosanna? I'd like to think that she's just been swept up by Dogpack, and that her claims are still as valid as every other victim. That she's not malicious (at least, not at first) and is now at best just hoping to see Jimmy taken down because he deserves it
pretty good video but you can change the clock in the tower challenge and you didnt say that it would be impossible to change it in post you did make it sound like you cant. Also the MB signature is more valuable if mr. beast signs it personally. i dont even understand your reasoning? its like oh i got mark hamill's signature by marks friend..... but its mark hamills signature. good luck with that ebay listing.
1:01:50 bro forgot to thank Mr beast for sponsoring this video. For those unaware Soggy admited to have been paid by Mr beast loved how he claims to be neutral about the topic yet he accepted money from a Crypto scammer taken directly from Mr beast
@@Ahmad-z3o3zAlso, I saw that Chud Logic segment in question. Soggy never says that he was paid by MRBEAST to MAKE THIS VIDEO. If you literally just listened, you would hear that he said that DUSTIN paid his PLANE TICKETS on a NON MrBeast card because the flights were too expensive for Soggy to afford. Stop taking that kind of info and trying to manipulate it, it's extremely disingenuous and you're pulling a DogPack.
@Ahmad-z3o3z About the Crypto scam, 1:24:43 When does he defend it?
Also, I find it ironic how when DogPack tries pressuring Soggy Cereal into making a video against MrBeast, nobody cares, but when Soggy finally makes his video against DogPack (not in defense of MrBeast), people start rasing pitchforks and theorizing that he was paid.
Send a link of this proof that he was paid and I may reconsider. But if not, keep coping.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl a producer with a salary of 50k paid for a +15k trip for his employer I mean sure let's ignore that this is litterly his job for a moment. Soggy accepted it without even knowing who paid for it!!!???
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl🤣 just take the L maybe come up with a sold argument other than an employ who get's paid by mr beast would pay put of the goodness of his heart 20000$+ in order to make an interview about Mr beast out of his own pocket and jimmy had nothing to do with it he didn't approve the interview the great crypto scammer had nothing to do with this just one google search would show you that mr beast commented and deleted his comment thanking soggy and mr beast is contacting other content creators to review Soggy's video but who needs logic am I right
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl do you honstly think Mr beast book every flight/hotel himself for every contestant/colaborator lmao. The interviews and cost were all covered and approved by Mr beast
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl here is a simple paragraph of the money transfer Mr beast money -> employ B who handled booking flight and hotel and everything else through his bank account -> Soggy was paid by Mr beast. Hopefully this clarifies you confusion
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl that statement is the most PR move I have ever seen so he was paid by an employ from Mr beast = paid by mr beast that isn't new that is just buisness 101
@@Ahmad-z3o3z I'm amazed that you choose tollie so blatantly, that guy didn't pay him to come it was one of the employees who used his own money for that.
And you would see in the same video that he is trying to defeand Mr beast Crypto scam🤣🤣🤣🤣 you can't make this thing up I swear. An hour and a half of nothing burger.
This is the 2nd video ive watched after months regarding Mrbeast. I had watched dogpacks only video back then which were mostly manipulative allegations. Who cares if the car is CGI? or if the contests are real or not? People watch youtube as a source of entertainment. I've shrugged off the entire video as it didn't seem that serious and didn't bother catching up w the drama as its just a massive waste of time.
It shouldnt be, no one can do anything 100% ,absolute doesn't exist, in this case you can't please everyone ,there will always be a fraction of people against you no matter what you do ,good or bad. Since Mr beast is such a huge figure ,the fraction people who hated him is also big ,dogpack was just a person to bell the cat which gave this portion of people an opportunity to slander him openly ,dogpack was just the initiator. People were ready and waiting.
And this video wont get even half as many views and as any ONE of dogpack's vids. Most of the creators who coalbed with dogpack MAY NOT even address this vid (but i hope they do).
In the end the internet will move one like nothing happened... (but i hope something does happen)
Well unlike anyone taking side, I side with no one and take this information as a awareness for myself while sip a tea seeing these people taking side take the massive L ☕ I never trust Mr Beast especially the charity video, but Dogpack404 is very suspicious from the start due to his face apperance worsen by his behavior and the way he act that looked like idubbbz being the version 2.0 So yeah all I want is truth, and just truth, never praise both of these people infact only criticsm 😂 Bro the milkers are gonna burst money glitch 💀
I think this was always very obviously that Dawson was an untrustworthy source. A disgruntled employee being the main person spearheading the attack against Mr. Beast's career was always going to end badly. He has said that he is not doing this for clout and yet he went on Rosanna's channel and joking about the wildly fucked up stuff that they found in a leaked group chat was for nothing but for clout.
I'll be honest, i took everything Dogpack said with a BOULDER of salt, because something didn't feel right. Idk what, but something about him, his videos, and the allegations just felt off. I felt like I couldn't trust his claims, either because something felt off about the claims, or his personality and motivations. I'm pretty happy to see that my bull$#!+ detector is still working great, even several years after i stopped needing to use it daily for work 😂.
This feels like the John Swan stuff all over again. Also, downloading and then reverse image searching said "thing" is beyond even LOLCow levels of stupidity.
oh dear soggy, we didnt know if locoya is real but apparently you got his voice recording that he is the COO of mr beast. RIP to mr beast gang. good job soggy been soggy XD
Finally somebody exposed Dogpack. I knew he lied for profit since I checked some of his accusations but I didn't expect that almost everything he said was a fraud
Interesting video. But I can't help but feel there is a strong bias towards Mr.Beast. I get that dogpack has an ulterior motive but hasn't this whole situation still exposed the Mr Beast brand as another blood sucking corporation? An image that Jimmy was clearly trying to stray away from. This video just seems like deflection and well construed damage control because I still feel like there are many unanswered questions surrounding the ethics and morality of the Mr Beast brand.
To me, all of them are scumbags. The only motivating factor for Jimmy, Dogpack and Soggy is money. It's as simple as that.
Thank good many people questioning your video like they saying you are no diffirent than your enemy Dogpack maybe even more worse because pretty much you defending shady person.
thank you so much for make this vid. i watch anther much smaller person who is doing what you are doing exposing dogpack and the one girl for being a manipulative liar. is mr beast the best no but he no where near the person they are trying to paint him as
You’re literally getting over dramatic offer dog pack calling you over dramatic. It feels like the only reason you’re doing this is because he called you over dramatic and now you’re salty. You might have some credible claims, I wouldn’t know, you axed all your credibility by behaving exactly the way dogpack called you out for. If he hurt people, that sucks and he should apologize, but your claims of having “debunked” anything are pure slop.
@@iatianegs no biggie! I don't really care about who dogpack is as a person tbf. It is how nobody cares about Edward Snowden. They drop their information and then they basically disappear.
Yes, ofc there is a difference between US surveillance and the silly child gambling man, but still.
@@deandage2703 oh mb i didnt know the context. i thought u were talking about both dogpack404 and mrbeast wanting money, which is why i mentioned dogpack was non profit
@@iatianegs I'm talking about the guy forced to be trapped in solitary confinement for literal weeks while his mental health declined rapidly, all for money that he was in need of
@iatianegs okay and? Weddle was still put in solitary confinement for conent. Putting people into hunger games or squid game because they desperately need the money is cruelty, but solitary confinement is okay if it is done by mr beast?
small thing here if someone can answer, earlier in the video he mentions that having an nda ia a common excuse for making false claims, but in this video at 46:44 you can hear the hiring manager mention an nda. just something i saw, hopefully someone can answer edit: later on he mentions in the video he broke the nda multiple times, so im going to assume here the idea behind his (soggy) claim was that he hids behind the nda when its convenient but breaks it any other time. guess the video answered my question lmao
@@kssm yes i was asking why he said that having an nda was a common exuse (implying earlier on that he didnt have one) but as mentioned in the video the manager clearly said he has one, so it was a contradiction. then later in the video he was saying he was breaking the nda so it answered my question as i said in the edit
nda means "non disclosure agreement", basically you sign it before receiving confidential info, then leak if you that info, you are liable to be sued. alot of companies make employees sign these if they are given info they don't want to get out
What happened to YouTube I remember when I was a child it was a lot of let’s plays, after it was funny videos, after challenges videos and now today it’s just drama can we just return back to the good old time. Most content on YouTube now is just so depressing today
this is because at the time the internet was not that big the population and the internet has grown I mean you can still find those videos you just have to look for them now
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
I don't really know why people like autographs and autographed stuff, but I doubt it is because it is legally binding. So even if it legally might not count as fraud, it doesn't strike me as outstanding behavior imply the autograph on the merge is yours if it is not.
small nitpick, not really relevant, but "5head" more often just means someone has a really big forehead. It could imply someone's big-brained, but also could just imply someone's ugly.
@@IbrahimAli-ix3rl it can, but doesn't necessarily. It's a pun on forehead (4head). So it generally means a big forehead. It was originally an insult in fact.
oh boi, can't want for the video on what good things P.Diddy did and how bad his victims behaved in some situations, that surely will help fix this poor man's hurt reputation for no reason at all/s
Ah, crap. Clicked on this because of the content cop outfit, got sucked in. Guess I'm stuck hearing about this controversy I didn't care about for the next 87 minutes!
I don't like mrbeast; I think he's pretentious, exploitative and annoying. Don't have any solid proof but at least my comment is more credible than dogpack's video.
Idk, I’m beginning to think neither Dawson nor Jimmy are good people here. Jimmy is still shady as shit (some things in this video didn’t substantially disprove Dogpack’s claims or misinterpreted things) and Dogpack now has some reasonable doubt cast over him (other things in this video DID disprove things and actually made me change my stance on the illegal lotteries, except for the claim that a fake signature doesn’t devalue an item, it absolutely does).
Coffeezilla needs to be taken into consideration as well, he uncovered that Mr Beast has a moderate likelihood of having committed insider trading and we already knew Mr Beast admitted to participating in a Ponzi scheme previously. So Jimmy could be only financially successful off of highly illegal gains. Jimmy also was 100% aware of Kris Tyson’s pedophilia, this video did not disprove that, so the fact Kris was allowed to continue working with the team is best case the “He’s my fucken friend” (actual quote from Beast) bias at work, and worst case malicious negligence and disregard for the weight of such a situation. Additionally, the lack of a public statement this entire time is probably one of the most damning pieces against Jimmy.
All that said, Dawson has now been caught repeatedly using manipulative editing to only show half the story, with other clips from the same videos or simple use of the Wayback machine showing he’s just flat out wrong on certain claims. And the CP thing, while it turned out not to be CP, it is still INCREDIBLY insane to distribute and flaunt what you believe to be CP before and audience, especially in a thumbnail.
I think at this point the charges that need to be levied are against Jimmy for his financial crimes and general negligence between people like Kris being allowed on staff and BeastGames’ poor operation, Dogpack on defamation and possession/distribution of what he believed to be CP (which should constitute the crime), and Kris for obviously being a fucking pedophile.
@@shadowed69 if you watched the video, you'd see that Mr Beast didn't know this when he hired the guy. I agree that Mr Beast is problematic and I don't like him either, but this video shows that the Dogpack videos aren't (fully) correct
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
Not to be a tinfoil hat Andy but .. How do we know Mr.Beast didn't pay people off to say these things?
Like, I do see that there are some huge holes in Dogpack's video that are pretty egregious. But, some of these interviews in Soggy's video .. idk man. Beast could pay off a lot of people to paint himself in a good light.
Great video regardless, Soggy! These issues needed to be brought up.
It literally does devalue "MrBeast" signature, if it is not from him tho... 5Head doesnt maen he is calling himself smart, it can mean, and usually does, that he is just pretending to be smart, it literally is highlighted on screen of the definition you showed xD
slightly off topic from the main point (but everything that can be said about that has probably been said already) but i've been annoyed by dogpack's frequent usage of ai generated images since his first video, so i guess it's no surprise to see him constantly using it not just for his fan ideas but also presumably for actual work pitches in here? but i paused on a reddit comment where he seems to be somewhat against ai being used for that purpose 💀 the hypocrisy never ends
also rubs me the wrong way when he said "i'm too lazy to translate your made up language" even though i know it's kind of a meme to call some languages that.. in that specific context it felt so dismissive and rude lol the guy really seems like an asshole
(0:37) “Philanthropy that's helping thousands and millions of people” Do you mean to say philanthropy that helps shield Mr. Beast from criticism?
(5:36) Dogpack never said that Mrbeast definitely knew as shown at (48:40) in the “I worked for Mrbeast he's a sociopath” video.
(6:24) He did wear a mask without removing it in the “I Spent 24 Hours Straight In Insane Asylum” video
(6:47) Sorry, bro, but witness testimony isn't good enough evidence against Dog Pack especially of a Mrbeast employee
(10:25) You saying that Jake the Viking is an untrustworthy person doesn't make him untrustworthy. In the same way, Garrett shouldn't be seen as trustworthy.
(10:36) Again, watch (48:40) in the “I worked for Mrbeast he's a sociopath” video.
(17:00) First things first, he was referring to the “no purchase necessary” text you idiot.
The second thing is that it would still be considered a lottery even if they have a free option
The third thing is that he didn't say that this was an ‘illegal’ lottery since he already said “The website did have a "no purchase necessary" link hidden at the bottom of the page.”
Also, the “Buy This Shirt To Be In A Video” video was still a lottery, even if he had a free way to enter, as it still ticks the consideration box for those who bought the shirt.
(20:52) “Not true” You know Dogpack was very careful with his words as he said “ I don't know if it got resolved” instead of saying somewhere along the lines of “The issue didn't get resolved”
(21:15) Again Dogpack said “per bar” instead of saying “per gram”. And to add pain to the misery it's still unhealthier than the previous formula.
(22:02) Why does the “Controlled opposition” admit to using CGI in the hole at (1:10:58)?
(22:13) They did use CGI for the shredder at one point though.
(22:26) Dogpack again isn't wrong as the colour of the car did get digitally lifted and Mrbeast still used CGI to use a false colour on the car.
(24:03)“The CP was PROBABLY more disgusting”. There you go he didn't confirm it was CP
It's like saying that a police officer who caught a criminal having CP and then tried to reverse an image search to find the creator of the CP is a criminal because he held CP in the end. Bro this is why context is important.
(33:50) Yes, Dogpack should be confronted for pushing thirst traps on Mrbeast's channel, and it would not be ok for Mrbeast to try drugs on YouTube. Now I understand why Dogpack got fired. I think we can all agree that any form of sexual thumbnails should be banned on YouTube.
(35:40) Again, witness testimony isn't good enough evidence against Dog Pack, especially of a Mrbeast contestant who won a lot of money in the end by Mrbeast.
(36:52) Do you mean to say “I did rather believe a person who defends Mrbeast and is also a Mrbeast contestant who won a lot of money in the end by Mrbeast than The guy who exposed Mrbeast”
(37:04) Again, witness testimony, especially of a Mrbeast contestant who won a lot of money at the end by Mrbeast doesn't help prove to people that he is a random subscriber.
(47:29) “Him saying he's not getting anything out of these videos” he didn't say he's not getting anything out of these videos as he's still getting fame but he said that the video is not monetised.
(47:59) This point was already covered by Stucky and I have already responded to that in my Reddit post.
(51:39) Why didn't Mrbeast mention that in his video?
(53:11) You can see that the colour of the timer in (52:56) is a little bit different than the colour in (52:59)
(53:30) I allegedly think that most of the people already knew that he was breaking his NDA
(53:59) Why didn't they mention this in something like a Behind-the-scenes video? I do appreciate you bringing this information on YouTube, but I do think that Mrbeast should be the one to bring this information on YouTube, and he should have brought this before Dogpack started to confront Mrbeast on 24th July 2024.
(54:36) He didn't say “Luxurious production yacht”. Instead, he said, “Production yacht”. He may be trying to imply that it was luxurious as we see the photo of a golden ship but there still isn't any solid evidence for this claim. Again I do appreciate you bringing this information on YouTube, but I do think that Mrbeast should be the one to bring this information on YouTube, and he should have brought this before Dogpack started to confront Mrbeast on 24th July 2024.
(56:28) Again I do appreciate you bringing this information on YouTube, but I do think that Mrbeast should be the one to bring this information on YouTube, and he should have brought this before Dogpack started to confront Mrbeast on 24th July 2024.
(56:39) Again witness testimony isn't good enough evidence against Dog Pack.
(55:57) I want them to be transparent about the entire Mrbeast company and it shouldn't have taken Dogpack confronting Mrbeast on 24th July 2024 to get them to tell you everything.
(59:26) “We investigated ourselves and found ourselves innocent”
(1:00:29) It's not about whether it's legal or not but about him being lazy and not signing all his signatures himself.
(1:01:00) Bro watch the (21:20)–(21:59) of the “I Worked For MrBeast, He's A Fraud” video again as he debunks the free sign-up argument and PURCHASE IS NECESSARY for you to win extra rewards, which are lotteries in and of itself.
(1:04:55) Again “lies and misinformation” coming from witness testimony isn't good enough evidence against Dog Pack especially from a Mrbeast employee
(1:08:48) The argument was allegedly trying to associate no does not mean no with never giving up but it's allegedly meant to try to bully people who reject or disapprove a demand of the Mrbeast company accept or approve the demand of the Mrbeast company.
(1:10:23) Again I do appreciate you bringing this information on YouTube, but I do think that Mrbeast should be the one to bring this information on YouTube, and he should have brought this before Dogpack started to confront Mrbeast on 24th July 2024.
(1:11:19)–(1:20:19) Again, witness testimony isn't good enough evidence against Dog Pack, especially of Mrbeast employees.
(1:20:20) Do you mean to say that there will not be people who will be recorded being helped by Mrbeast so that Mrbeast can make himself look good?
(1:22:16) Bro watch the (2:35) of the “I Worked For MrBeast, He's A Fraud” video
@@TheMangaWasBetter77786 “No, you don’t. So just shut up” what are you? 12? Please admit you glaze Dogpack. Actually go outside than be a keyboard warrior
Regardless of what disgusting stuff dogpack does, you honestly, pretty entertaining yourself. Thank you for bringing back content cop, and please continue doing that. :)
its interesting for you to mention integrity, since pegasus has helped you to rise up a lot and you acted to him like you were great friends
i agree that dawson may not be the BEST person but you of all people certainly have to mention manipulation in the very beginning of your video
also you shouldve not mentioned all of dawsons sources, because many of them still have a JOB, they were simply trying to help what they believed was right and now this will impact them financially
47:53 turned off adblock and restarted the video. I've said even if all the allegations are true (obviously not to anyone capable of crtitical thinking) that MrBeast's cntribution to humanity is always going to be a net positive.
proving dogpack wrong doesn't make mr beast right it just shows how dogpack used the limelight of hate that was surrounding mr beast and manipulated it for his gain.
Things I trust, stuff like the proven doctored description of the 3rd supposed illegal lottery, stuff I'm skeptical of statements made by people after DogPacks videos as those people could have easily been paid off by Beasts company, things I don't trust anything said by the employees.
I don't care about the means, someone trying to take down a guy I don't like that has this aura of bUT hE dID a gOoD THiNG is doing the right thing. I don't eat crayons, but I also don't care about the facts if they fit an agenda that I have.
1:26:40 That could be true, but if it wasn’t for dogpack, would these other creators be making videos about MrBeast? I don’t know, maybe, but it would have taken a lot longer.
I have 2 things to say. Unpopular opinion the YouTube slop video was fire. I think the points made were harsh but on point for the most part. 2nd with the anime thing. I'm pretty sure ethe age of consent in Japan is sixteen so even if it was about that kind of relationship it may be socially acceptable in Japan. Obviously I don't fully know but the fact that people say this and others believe is pretty bad we need to more research before making opinions.
Why are you making fun of Dog Pack asking to keep his job? What is so bad about that? Be the better person. Dog Pack suggesting Mr. Beast take all the drugs seems like a normal thing Mr. Beast would do. Have you seen his early videos? They literally admitted to advertising their channel to kids. They know mostly kids watch their stuff. No questions at all about his link to Shadman? Seems weird. We all know Feastables suck as much as Lunchables. How people say Hershey's is any better is comical. It's better than not eating though. He talked about all his money, but still asks his child fans to fix his Feastable displays in stores. We already know about the 7 days at sea stuff. So why didn't they stop Weddle from the continued confinement? If they cared that much about safety? Just because they hire a third party, doesn't mean that third party received all the evidence. It just keeps from showing bias. You didn't even ask about the whole Amazon show stuff? Didn't ask about Team Seas or Team Trees? I know the show lawsuit is still going on, but still. His channel still profits from underprivileged people. I think most people would agree that philanthropy shouldn't be about antics and charades. I know you brought up Logan Paul and KSI, but this team up really shows up as a red flag. Mr. Beast misled his fans with giveaways and crypto. It's a minor issue at this point, but there is proven video evidence.
It's a nice thing Jimmy is trying to do for society, but the way he has always done it is weird. There are worse people in the world I guess. His is driven by money and money alone. He doesn't care about much.
@@NexusNex01 They literally show nothing as proof of sexual harassment. All Soggy has is a recording of his HR firing meeting. That is it. Nothing else.
Thanks for having balls and using your platform to dethrone liars. All this bs is just a cash grab. I never trusted dogpack from the start. Mr beast is very overworked and young. Hes bound to make a mistake. Try being the biggest youtuber in the world with 2 food companies and having to run all of them. You wont be perfect.
And that’s when it was the time when the official civil war of YouTube started With mrbeast soggy cereal Logan Paul KSI and others went to war with dog pack 404 Rosana morePegasus and and other commentary YouTube channels and ludwig AND twitter of course
In summarion this is really stupid video that seeks to dismiss claims based on technicallities and, perhaps deliberately, misses the point completely. 0:37 «The philanthropy that benefiting millions of people» this is absolute horseshit 4:18 The allegation is that they were joking that he couldn’t go back to Delaware, not that it was the actual origin of the nickname, and certainly not that he was banished by law. 5:57 Even if he didn’t hire him knowing, he sure KEPT HIM AROUND while knowing. That’s the meat of the accusations, your brushing it of.
0:37 Why is it horseshit do you think he does no philantrophy? 4:18 The allegation is that they were joking??? How is that an allegation? 5:57 This still shows dogpack didn't do proper research, besides how do you know whether they kept him around or not?
A brief comment about "no doesn't always mean no." Don't forget -- women can be creepy too. Even though a female employee thinks it's funny and appropriate, it's definitely not. I also think it's also a red flag of the culture at the company.
lol, my thoughts exactly. I've been selling credit cards and crap my whole life and never heard anyone mention the "no doesn't always mean no" tactic. If I told this tactic to my boss, she would look at me differently.
@@MrFather4000if he isn’t being biased then why not disclose that the ticket was paid for until someone asked? Even then he reluctantly answered! If he had disclosed this from the start I’d be more likely to believe this to be an unbiased video but he hid it and his reluctance to answer is sly
This was a great video, I really enjoyed how thorough it was. Super scummy stuff all around.
One thing that I thought was a little bit funny in an otherwise serious video was at 1:22:00 he speaks about Mr. Beast team actively aging up their content. I am pretty sure Mr. Beast content has not been aged up.
even if mr beast is innocent in theses stuff he still sucks for other things like Lunchly for starters and no i haven't watch the video yet, but i will eventually for now tho i got my own stuff toy do
I don't trust Rosanna Pansino as far as I can throw her simply because she seems to have this Mr beast hate boner and she will echo any accusation about that man regardless of whether they are true or false. She could hear a false fake rumor that Mr beast was sleeping with a 13-year-old child and she would echo it as if it was true!
53:30 is the absolute dumbest argument ever. Of course there would be producers or technicians who trigger it remotely.
Even on real game shows this is the case because it's easier to rig up, wont sustain any damage, such as rust that makes it impossible to turn, or god forbid an emergency happens, you can't expect the dude drowning to release himself.
Even before this video i thought it was a stupid claim to make. Also NDA lol
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
I'm always said at start of his "expose" video come out that all of his accusation didn't had any solid proof but people won't care because Mr.Beast is big and he is evil now so everyone don't even care to look this up even a lot of Youtuber make video about Mr.Beast gonna end his career.
I saw more than bunch of "Content Creator" try to accuse Mr.Beast for making money but they farming from Mr.Beast for money too , ironically enough LMAO
Soggy Cereal can't be talking, he literally steals other people's thumbnails. Regarding Feastables and Hershey's, you pointed out that Feastables is still healthier than Hershey’s. However, my argument was that it was advertised as healthy, and the downgrade in healthiness wasn’t acknowledged.
Soggy Cereal is twisting my words in order to make himself look correct. I will be making a full debunk soon.
6:09 Alright so if Delaware isn’t his real name then where did Delaware get his nickname from? Also I don’t remember Delaware being printed on that shirt and bro why did you forget the part where the intro is sped up when when you tried to debunk the 10 minute real time vid? Clearly the timer WAS EDITED in post and the guy touched the laser dogpack404 made those claims and you skipped them (I bet this guy got paid by Mrbeast)
3:49 Literally, Jake says that Delaware got his nickname from the fact that his crimes were committed in Delaware. Jake Weddle, the guy on DogPack's side.
Also, why would Soggy admit that Jimmy committed an illegal lottery if he was paid to make the video? You're just pushing the false narrative that Soggy made this video to defend MrBeast instead of exposing DogPack.
@@FinalWarsGoji What are you trying to say? The way soggy talks gives me a feeling in my gut that makes me feel like he is spreading misinformation aswell
@dihydrogenmonoxideistasty340 No but its clear that dogpack and Mr beast are lying and soggy is using words in a way that defends Mr beast (saying confirmed for dogpack but allegedly for Mr beast) and that gives me a feeling soggy is also lying
I had doubt back when the original video by dogpack was posted in july. Here is my comment from his video:
"The fact that y'all are taking this at face value from a guy who couldn't even manage to stay in the job for 2 months is so hilarious. 99% of this dudes accusations have literally ZERO proof. Its just accusations from some random loser.
Hell, there's a bunch of claims in it that have been outright proven wrong in videos, streams and podcasts that came out long before this video."
@@DogPark404 you lied about a heart warming anime, about CP, and about scamming children boy bye, Jimmy might be shady but he ant CRIMALLNALY shady at least like that....
As a person who believed this man’s lies and made me think Mr Beast was a bad man after this video I have realized that he is a manipulative, spiteful man who tricks his audience and boasts himself when he is right and cry’s when he is crying like a child. I was subscribed after this video I unsubscribed from Dogpack404. I agree with Soggy Cearel and I am glad he changed my brain from Dawson and agree either every word Soggy Cereal says thank you man.
@@starwinter6845 as someone who litterally watched the whole entire video, i can litterally confirm that he did not take anything out of context and you are a person who does not think of any sort of common sense once so ever. more at the end of the video, he INTERVIEWED employees that are to this day still working at the company, and they told there storys about dogpack404 being an absolute asshole, like trying to get an apple vision pro out of the company, and calling the food that the people working there trash without having any sort of interaction, and in a rude manner all on purpous.
i think you should watch the video actually before assuming he is lieing. This is probably the longest video on the situation that fully explains almost everything.
you havent watched the full video have you, you literally watched 42 seconds and left this comment. he literally coveres the eye doctors later in the video
But he did provide receipts, thats this video, MrBeast is not a good guy, everyone agrees with that, its just that DogPack404 is not a reliable source or really a good guy at all.
To who? Proof? What are you suggesting, Beast paid him off or something?
It's been obvious from the start that Dogpack has been lying and manipulating, regardless of if his overall message about Beast is true or not. It is not at all shocking that someone is finally bringing to light what people didn't want to see.
Thinking for yourself is apparently being a sellout..;
The War crime comment is tongue in cheek. It's clearly demonstrating that these challenges are excessively harsh. This is exactly what has been evidenced in the New York Times' reports on Mrbeast's new show
I mean, did anyone think the war crime thing was serious? Obviously, the Geneva Conventions don't apply. Jake wasn't a convict, and there is no war. I don't understand how anyone could perceive this as hyperbole. This felt like nit picking. Jake Weddle was financially coerced into submitting to harassment and mental distress. You can't arrest a person or company for committing war crimes, but this conduct is pursuable in a civil case.
@ Legally, definitely not coercion. But arguably it is hard to say no because of the financial incentives that were offered. I personally believe that there is a strong ethical transgression in using incentives like this. Maybe I was overzealous in the implication that this exact conduct is legally perusable. It largely depends on what sort of liability was signed ect. I doubt that this will be taken to court. But I think the legal issue is there, and certainly the ethical one, likewise.
Morality question I have to ask as a philosophy major is do you feel good about making someone who was shown as an evil person (MrBeast) now seem less evil because you exposed dogpack? You could’ve kept hidden this information you had and kept MrBeast as a super evil person.
What a dumb question, should all people who were falsely imprisoned for crime , not have people still try to prove their innocence because the public believes they are evil? That’s how dumb you sound
I mean ye obiviously its not war crime.. Tho its torture.. Voluntary torture but then again offering money to torture someone on camera is morally wrong.
If all of this is true then why couldn’t Mr beasts lawyer use the stuff you’re saying to refute it when the drama first started. I’m not saying you’re wrong or anything but that is a little suspicious on your part
Because the refutation of all those points does not matter. At the end of the day Beast was doing too well for too long, people hate that and are just searching for a reason to justify their feelings. When a huge wave like that builds up you are not stopping it with logic, you have to wait it out and then try to explain later(thats why 99% of time the best response anyone can make to a drama is no response). Of course there is still some shitty stuff beast did, but all things included he is not even in top 100 terrible big youtubers.
You can see it even under this video: people just go "oh so the person that we were worshipping just a week ago is actually manipulative pos who is trying to get vengeance, well w/e I still hate Beast" and find some other reason to be angry.
Coming back to your point of them not suing: think about the optics of suing dogpack right now, people would just cry that a massive company is abusing its financial power to punish a whistle blower. But if they don't sue "why don't they sue him if he lies". And it just goes on and on. If he responds it doesn't matter (I explained why), if he doesn't he is guilty, if he sues he is guilty, if he doesn't sue he is guilty. The ONLY answer is not to answer lol.
I think if you're going to nitpick slip-ups like Dogpack forgetting to say "alleged" one time and Jake Weddle only stating that a voice recording is AI after showing it, you should avoid that kind of misleading behaviour yourself. (29:30, you claim you are now going to submit the FBI report and animate a mouse cursor clicking on it and then later go "uh also, I didn't actually submit it")
Ridiculous how many creators all these horrible accusations went through before ANYONE did any fact-checking. Content creators are so fucking lazy nowadays
idk man you didn't change my mind on Dogpack even if he's biased and has errors in his reporting the things that matter are bad. I don't care someone misrepresented the facts cause it made all the issues in general come out.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
I mean isn´t Mr Beast in the same bitcoin trouble as Logan Paul? So is Coffeezilla lying about all his allegations as well? I feel like this video glossed over some of the real concerns and focused on a few things that no one really cared about. Just the stuff these dudes were grasping at straws for in order to save face. Even if the guy was wrong about a few things it doesnt change Mr Beast is under investigation from actual people who do this for living without the youtube videos. So we will all see what comes of this.
The guy who says his balls is right about mrbeast is about to get bamboozled
In all seriousness, mr beast is not a saint but maybe just a normal decent dude, the good thing about this drama is probably people stop over glazing mr beast
I don't care what you all say, everybody has done bad things but Mr beast has helped more people than anyone in the youtube community, he is not an angel of course but the reason people are hating on him is simple, you can be very clean from top to bottom but if you have a little booger on your nose than your disgusting and no one wants to be around you, so yeah Mr beast has a booger but don't ignore the good stuff also
@@Anomity99 ? I'm not at all sure how what you said at the end has anything to do with me. Disprove who? And I specifically said that it is beneficial regardless of intent, and that people can use it for personal gains. Didn't disregard anything, and specifically said it's important to know if there is wrongdoing going on.
@@Walrus101 While not inherently bad, acts of charity can certainly be used to cover up bad things. Whether or not it is actually the case, you can't just disregard the possibility just because you want to disprove a few people.
Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago. He was also fully aware of Ava Kris Tyson being a predator...
You're right in how aggressively people want to tear down Mr. Beast. It's definitely important to notice when wrongdoing is happening, but a ton of people seem to relish his "downfall" because they didn't trust him or etc., so it confirms their suspicions and biases. Like they would rather be "right" for seeing him as manipulative and selfish than for him to actually just be doing good things. And people act like acts of charity are bad if they further someone in the process, when it helps people regardless of the givers intent.
How did we never see through this, I mean atleast mrbeast isn’t a terrible person, allegedly. Now please don’t be a liar as well because I’m losing my mind right now
Id rather be a five year old glued to YT shorts than one of you 15-35 year olds using flashy and snarky brainrot “insults” against a justified, passionate creator. wtf are these “MrBeast should have responded” and “I wont watch the video” and “the spirit of it is a warcrime” slop comments?!? I could only wish an AI is trying to spam these braindead takes.
Well, whatever… MrBeast or DogPack… scammers are there. And people who damage the other as well. Until, MrBeast talks for himself and don’t depend on external sources (like you) I will judge if continuing believe or just move on and ignore his childish behavior in wasting money in absurdities than really use it on the needed ones.
I called it and tried to warn people. But hey I'm glad now that philanthropy has stopped helping people it was worth it for that cheap internet rage bait.
@@basimcool9278 not saying he defends beast. just saying he has some biases that start showing as soon as he starts talking. Like defending beast AND a scum pedo because "bestbuy, a 100 billion dollar company with stores all over the US hired him". WHAT?
Well, this explains why Dogpack's videos felt like a personal vendetta, that tried to maximize the impact.
And sadly enough, that DOES reinforce my previous opinions about what Dogpack claimed, but never really substantiated. Like, he said much in his videos, but either rarely showed proof of his claims or blew them out of proportions. Like production yacht one for the raft video could be true, but there was never any evidence for it. It was just believed because he substantiated other, unrelated claims and throwing this all together into one video makes everything in it believable by default.
Also, his criticism of Beast Philantropy, there was one very good call out that Beast never paid that one charity for the eye surgeries, but the remaining video was just full of "CGI here, fake there", but just because he uses CGI, does it make it less charitable or expose him for not doing those things? Even the eye surgery charity one feels a bit out of left field. Sure, a business should not fail to pay such large sums, when agreed upon (by contract?), but it was one of many charities that helped on those eye surgeries, so maybe it was a one-off honest mistake? (Wouldn't explain why it took them until massive public outcry to finally pay)
He just wants to drag MrBeast down as revenge, since he fell in this unique position of utilizing an ongoing scandal with Ava. It's not like all the previous tries of people that were just silenced by current disinterest of MrBeast negativity. He got a lucky break, and he utilizes it to its fullest. Idk if this is commendable or disgusting.
Watched a summary of the vid, and all I have to say is that dogpack is not the problem here, he is bringing to light something descusting that the biggest YouTuber on the platform is/was doing, most people are afraid to talk but he wasn't, good or bad guy idc he showed Mr. beast real colors, and the crypto and colab with KSI and Jake (or Logan I always confuse the 2 both trash people anyway) just shows most of the stuff he said ia real, no one in they're right mind would colab with someone that filmed a person dead. Also the part where you show him pleading for his job that was a good manipulation tactic, dude was losing his fucking job ofc he tried to has fir more chances he's a normal person, that's the reason I didn't watch the full video, if you try to manipulate 1 time you 100% did 2 times or more
what about the company beast worked with with his blindness video and they came out saying they never got paid at all and he took credit and made money off of their work. or the crypto stuff coffeezilla covered
@@NatsuDragneel-um1ir mr beast wroked with a 3rd party who worked with a ton of differnt organisations across the globe, the 3rd party forgot to pay one of the organisations, when the mrbeast team was made aware of this they payed the organisation directly to resolve the issue.
imo, mrbeast didnt really do anything particualrly wrong in that situation
Dude couldn't get views so he had to change the title/thumbnail... This is a nothingburger and you didn't "disprove" anything at all dude. In fact you even gave more evidence to SUPPORT a lot of the claims against Mr Beast and the best you could come up with to "debunk" things was "well he didn't show 100% black and white, pen and paper evidence for this yet sooooooo CHECKMATE" lol
Why do you think he didn't disprove anything? At the very least you have to admit he disproved the Delaware stuff. And how did he end up providing more evidence for the claims? Comments like this that just say sh*t without any proof only serve to make people more angry.
@@hydro1389 yeah just because he gives a shitty excusation doesnt mean its not in fact a paid actor video. Too many reasons why it is. From the taped audio recording to MrBeast trying to spread this video via DMs to other youtubers.
@@DDArtsArts don’t know if my comment is still up, it just disappeared when I came back to check but I gave my two cents on it. If it isn’t appearing here it got taken down. Just an FYI
Actually, at 43:00 you mentioned that picking dogpacks side is the option to get you millions of views and hundreds of thousands of dollars, but channels like pegasus would typically not receive that much from one video, making every claim in this video illigitimate.
Yeah, that’s exactly why he cranks out multiple videos—because it rakes in way more money and views. It’s literally the definition of slop content, you absolute genius. But hey, keep defending it like it’s high art.
When I'm in a coping competition and my opponent is a DogPack glazer.
Also why would Soggy admit that Jimmy committed an illegal lottery if he was paid? Like dude, stop with the conspiracy theories and get off Dogboy's meat.
Stupid people listened to this Dogpack and make him popular with only 2 video. He gained fame over night. MrBeast is original Subscribe to him . He's going to be the first YouTuber to hit 1 billion subscribers.
This is awesome like I just knew something was wrong Jake is clearly an attention-seeking little dweeb And dog packs motivations never made sense they just never ever made sense
I like how he calls out dogpack for leaving out the part where he said he was “going to give the money to his friends” while he leaves out the part where the entire video that shows it was not only fake but planned.
Not only that but they painted Mack as a “random contestant” as to manipulate watch time out of a young impressionable audience. But why would Soggy leave that part out 🤔
His plane tickets were paid for by the Mr Beast company and Mr Beast commented on the video when it had 13,000 views. I don’t know about you but something seems fishy here 😂
For those who cant stand disingenuous arguments, Paid off mrBeast glazing and general stupidity skip the first 20 minutes. He spend the whole time defends a pedophile
This debunking does 0 to change my opinion on Mr Beast. It’s just a distraction, everything else was just he said she said or entire topics were ignored including to make Jimmy seem better. There is actual evidence to support his claims, some of it was just misleading.
Most of your argument is “dog pack is weird and his coworkers don’t like him, so he’s wrong.” Just like how you shouldn’t be easily swayed by dog packs video, you shouldn’t be easily swayed by this one either.
Edit: Also the whole thing with Airacks friend Mack who they paid to act as a random Subscriber and manipulated kids into getting emotionally invested this fake video series was never mentioned. Disgusting use of exploitation by Jimmy!
It feels like its all been a distraction from the fact MB employee and BF was a PedOH. Pull up ex employee, have him make a TON of nonsense claims and bury the real claim. Something that is regularly done by damage control agencies.
I called him out on his videos and couldn't believe people would believe him. I'd watched the videos and just knew he was an idiot. The 404 gave it away as a Minecraft meme. Error 404. Kind of sad he used his dog for views cause he, himself is a dog.
Never fully believed 404 but this is nonsense, you were hired by one of the people involved so your just as biased as 404 but on the other side. Somewhere in the middle of both videos is reality.
mr breast didn't want to respond himself, so he paid you off? You either do not know how English works, you do and try to bullshit us, or your last few brain cells are getting fried
also, not brushing your teeth is very unhealthy, but showing them on video is just disgusting.
Dude shut the fuck up with the cringe fucking falsetto voice whenever you set up a strawman. Holy shit it's more annoying than knowing dogprick is a liar and manipulator, like what are you fucking 12? It's like I'm hearing the argumentative equivalent of a fart joke. To top it off you scrunch up your face like a puckered asshole. How fucking fitting.
I can’t wait for this guy to delete the video when Dogpack and Rosanna make a counter video and this guy runs like a pussy because of the backlash, just like when he deleted the slop video because of Dogpack.
bro you dont even know how to spell or use the right stayed lmao
editing this after reading some more: YOU CANT SPELL ANYTHING CORRECTLY. PEOPLE STOP MAKING YOUTUBE CHANNELS TRYING TO MONETIZE AND CAPITALIZE OFF PEOPLE GO READ A FUCKING BOOK
@@cool3Dhorse there are two versions of stayed in the english language. "stayed" the past tense of stay and "staid" an adjective that means serious or dull. he is using the wrong one.
if you want to make video essays and informational videos its a reasonable expectation that there are no grammatical or spelling errors.
@canislupus3655 Wrong. If you are paying attention, you'll notice Mr beast is actively weaponizing this video to score a win, and clearly it's working on some of you.
@@Querian Yeah how dare he say anything about dogpack404 😡 its obvius de dogpack404 vidjeo was truth... and i to didnt even watsh the vidjeo becaus he sound so abnocius and I alredy know he lie
@@KeepCoping679 no literally, he sounds so incredibly pretentious. I prefer to know the whole story, but his tone and his careless labelling "liar" and "manipulating" makes his video literally unbearable to watch. It almost makes it bad journalism with how he decides to point out stuff.
Not to take away from this video because it’s pretty good but I find it interesting how this guy was able to have so much access to mr. Beast employees and information yet coffeezilla was turned away and misdirected at every turn. It is my opinion that there are definitive skeletons In jimmys closet that the company is desperately trying to hide else why are they only letting biased coverage have access to interviews?
People are blowing over the fact that Mr. Beast's oldest best friend he still worked with last year, was an openly pedo. He shared CP with Mr. Beast in the group work chat. He was wrong about it being a 13yr old Ivanka. Also the house they filmed videos in had Shadman CP on the wall hanging in the living room. The other discord chats about sexual inuendo was numerous. I have a hard time believing Jimmy did not know about Ava, and I believe he knew and was ok with that at the least.
you're a joke and a spineless rat. glad you are getting your piece of the pie now and giving the Beast team legal and narrative leverage. Pretentious dumbass trying too hard.
@@KeepCoping679 gimmi some decent criticism lol. You think your comment does anything? Your comment looks like it was written by a brainwashed brain rotted little wimp. Go try doing your math homework lil bro.
@@hunterreeves454 weaponised comments gave done immensely damage to society. They are literally the best/worst form of propaganda. They're literally used by all major governments and agencies to push their agenda. Be it Russia, the u.s or mossad.
@@hunterreeves454 Jesus, you know it all. These ai bots are literally weaponised propaganda. Their used by the Russians, Israeli government and even the United States. They are powerful tools to influence people. People need to recognize that just because it may sound human and like an average person, that comment could be easily ai, or a government employee attempting to push an agenda.
@@KeepCoping679 there's literally no point of this video other than obviously weird coverup for Mr Jimmy Beast and his brand itself???? Sorry people also with brains have more discernment that maybe you haven't reached yet?
@@KeepCoping679 No one and I mean especially any serious journalist or accredited person in media is riding dogpack nor this obvious media plant. People can obviously outweigh dogpack and apparent virtuous soggy cereal who only used sources directly tied to Mr Beast (Jimmy) and his whole brand including everyone under it that's legally liable and paid by the guy. Please get from under my replies with your brain rot.
@@Querian I can't even begin to state in any fashion; the damage AI and bots are currently doing to modern legalities and the legal system generally all over the world currently and especially in superpowers with huge media complexes like the US. It's insanely sickening and disheartening by the day to constantly fight against. So, godspeed and thanks to you and anyone else trying to really see with eyes wide open instead of conforming to insensibility and ignorance stemming all the way back to the mafia days of the media and the narrative fights against the mobs. (Albert Patterson and many others like him lives on through us all in the spirit and ideology. True virtuous whistleblowing work and journalism shall never be left to die in the dark and we're currently seeing the biggest ongoing war of justice and truth in media than ever funded by big sharks with big $ and interests of control starting with Elon and similar)
You sure. You just watched an hour of a one sided take. I suggest you do some investigating and draw up your own conclusion. Not one created by a random guy.
You make a lot of insane claims that Dogpack is deliberately misleading people in his video, when that itself just isn't well founded.
It's very clear Dogpack isn't a trained, professional journalist who had a team of fact-checkers, he's some guy who threw together a compilation of very fishy looking stuff, and inevitably got some bits wrong. So what? Who's surprised?
In other parts you're like "non-anonymous source beats anonymous source!!!" as if that's at all true. Obviously employees who defend MrBeast are willing to have their names released, because their head won't be on the chopping block, that's not an argument. No whistleblower wants to be exposed and that's not a reason to dismiss them.
All your interviews with employees come across as little but PR shills, and again aren't really relevant, just because some employees are willing (and probably paid) to say nothing's wrong doesn't invalidate others' claims. And they wouldn't be publically talking if they weren't given express permission by MrBeast. MrBeast wouldn't have given permission to any employee willing to talk shit, so the interviews are effectively meaningless.
You really do fucking dox and try to "expose" DogPack as if who he is really matters. It's not actually relevant who he is at all, to be honest, and he's maintained that from the start.
Feels like you're just clinging onto minor things and drumming random shit up to clout chase rather than convincingly establish or debunk any facts.
true he just mistakenly accuse someone of so many things and he is not professional that's why he claims things without any proof and also he is just a kid that's why he has to manipulate the clips to show it as real. So sad of him wish he was professional scammer so he could have done these manipulation in a better way
garbage shill piece. You're literally saying mrbeast didn't run a background check then you start downplaying the fact that the company hired a sex offender and kept him on for years as "jimmy was dumb and young" despite no background checks were done at all despite Mr.beast's company growing to become a global billion dollar company. Anyone who takes your video seriously after this garbage take is a moron
yeah, honestly man I'm disappointed in soggy, bro had a good reputation at first but as soon as he gained a tiny bit of attention from exposes airrack, he just let that get to his head and became a sellout to beast. Its just disappointing how bro threw away his integrity just for some cash, which tbh was probably a lot so I see why he would do it
dude u literally missunderstand most of what those videos are about. Either you are trying to get some clicks with ur shitty video or you are actually just illiterate . Delete this
Half of your show was dedicated to Mr Beast BS? C'mon man! What a fkm waste of space. Put some real shit on. Like how Trump's Nazis are going toi target BROWN immigrants when the deportation starts. F--k Mr Beast and all those entitled overprivileged a55h@les WHOREALLYGIVESAF?
I would like to point out that it seems the sides have flipped. What I mean is that attacking dogpack is now impossible instead of Mrbeast. I could have video evidence of dogpack robbing an elderly woman by gun point, and people would say “hush money/ai/not true”
Weird how you're able to get all of these Beast staffers in a video after the allegations. Seems to me like this is just bought and paid for defamation in hopes of falsely discrediting legitimate allegations.
@@theunknown8735 I anticipate a response video deconstructing this one point by point, as I find it hard to believe the lot of this is even close to legit. So much of it just seems like a blatant oversight. The multiple current employees, meaning that they'd have had to be given permission by the man himself. The access to otherwise private things like recordings of firings and whatnot- also just seems like it could be doctored imo, just as the other clip was found to be AI.
Given the censorship here, they're very clearly trying to push a certain narrative
@@hydro1389a mr beast employee (Dustin) paid for Soggy’s plane ticket. I’m sorry but that’s a conflict of interest and removes any non biased stance that soggy went into this with
@@ImSodaLiriousexcept we are not really disagreeing here, I am not really arguing for who the lesser evil is because I don't really care my whole argument is to give neither a get out of jail free card and hold them accountable for what they should be accountable for whether that's Dogpack or Mr. Beast and again Soggy brought receipts that to me seems pretty legit and if this does get taken to court which in my opinion it should one way or another then a proper deep investigation would.reveal.the truth anyway. Especially considering the level of slander here.
We are not really disagreeing here. I'm not arguing for nor do I care about the lesser evil, both of them should.be held accountable for what they did do wrong
@@theunknown8735 another one of my replies censored. If you want to read it, you have to sort by newest, fish for my comment, and then look at it that way. Sorting by top won't display it. Strange, isn't it?
@@theunknown8735 I'm not giving either a get out of jail free card, but realistically, who is more likely to be dishonest?
A past employee who has a plethora of people whistleblowing to him, and personal testimonials from people who are actively risking legal action being taken against them by a multi-millionaire
or
A multi-millionaire with a lot to lose, has evidently used lawyers to promote baseless bullying tactics, has turned their comment section into a censorship hell, was proven to be best friends with a predator, and even went as far as removing content from previous videos depicting questionable scenes like them collectively looking at art from a CP artist?
Seems to me the answer is fairly evident. There's clearly a lesser evil here
@@ImSodaLiriouspossible considering they are from the same account and your argument does have validity that if the receipts were there why didn't Nr. Beast himself not show them?
I think it comes down to two reasons one is incompetence and the other that this video can be paid. Incompetence basically that the Mr. Beast side were more focused on sweeping the issue under the rug and waiting for it to blow over as they had more on their hands with the feastables.debacle and the lawsuits so they probably weren't focused on making such a video.
And the second as you said the possibility that this video does come from the Mr. Beast indirectly because Mr. Beast himself had lost in the court of public opinion and so needed someone neutral to help him.
The thing is that regardless of which the two reasons for this video are, does it take away from the credibility of the receipts and argumentations presented here?
And again, there are plenty of moments where Dogpack does go from the alleging territory into slandering territory like some of the stuff on the Rosanna podcast or the stuff said by Jake where they were clearly not "alleging". Also just saying "allegedly" does not free you from Slander if you were implicitly pushing a damning narrative.
Again the point you have raised is a valid one and I have no stake in this battle but Dogpack has always been sketchy to me and no one should be above scepticism or investigation and so we should look more into these receipts and Dogpack and I do think plenty of the receipts presented here are legitimate and can give Jimmy power both in the legal and public opinion court
Don't you think that if there wasn't any validity to the original claims, there'd have been an official response discrediting them by now? Seems to me that this is their corporate, detached way of testing the waters by using a "third party". This is all reeks to me.
All of the people dogpiling comments like mine just lends credibility to my theory, given that they're probably also generating artificial traffic to push a certain narrative
@@ImSodaLiriousSlander implies falsehood. Care pointing me to the falsehoods present in the video that are as grave as slandering someone on distributing CP or committing a war crime?
@@hydro1389 What I did was question the legitimacy and credibility of a "3rd party" user making a slanderous video in defense of someone who has already proven themselves to be slanderous AND predatory.
They already tried doing damage control like faking a "leaked" email, so why are you so closed off to the mere mention that there's a possibility this is a Beast funded rebuttal? If it was directly associated with jimbo- guess what? It wouldn't be taken seriously- or it'd be taken as seriously as when the FBI investigates the FBI and determines that the FBI didn't do anything wrong- it'd be redundant. Odds are this is staged, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the comments like yours* are from a clickfarm/botnet
mr. beast still together with Logan/KSI who is confirmed scumbags
logan had enough money to make launchly but not money for refund cryptozoo and mr. beast still together with a scumbag like that and working with a scumbag like this scumbags is mainly together with other scumbags
so still dont trust him
fuck all of these videos your annoying dog pack is annoying and mr beast is annoying i fucking hate all of this bullshit. mr beast is objectively horrible and dose not need a hero and you and dog pack are fucking irrelevant annoying nobody should have to say rich man bad it comes with the fucking title
Dude what are you actually doing just be a good content creator get off everyone else's page and do your own thing your really looking stupid I'm not a 10year old child so belive me when I say this and your channel is garbage
So I guess deleting all of the videos of the illegal lottery or firing the COO and CEO was because they did nothing wrong 🤔 I’ve never witnessed such a “I got paid to bash Mr. Beast’s biggest defector” had respect for you soggy because you exposed Airrack but get off of Jimmy’s gherkin. The man was best friends with a predator and knew about his behavior.
Stop being biased against mrbeast and actually look in both sides. Just cause he actually decided to not just listen to hearsay like you did and run with it doesn't mean he's worse of a person than you. Watch the video without glazing either one of those weirdos
Thank you 🙏 Dogpack 404 and Rosanna have made their personality trying to take down Mr Beast. It was clear they were presenting a fabricated version of the “Truth”.
In before we learn that Cody Ko hired DogPack404 to drop the MrBeast drama bomb to distract everyone from the previous YouTube hot topic.
Okay but seriously... interesting stuff, and I'm glad someone took a deep dive into this. There was a line in the movie Spotlight that I often think about when someone tries to prove anything. In the story, the Boston Globe reporters had confirmation on some, but not all of the dozens and dozens of priests who allegedly committed SA against children. Of course, even if they could only prove that half of the allegations were true, that's still a big story. However, editor Ben Bradlee, Jr. (John Slattery) called the strategy "too risky" and that if they're not "buttoned up" on all 87 cases, the Catholic church could use even one incorrect allegation to undermine their entire credibility.
Dogpack's videos, while entertaining, suffered from exactly this. There were parts that seemed pretty solid, other parts that caught me as "damning... if true," and still other parts where he seemed to be more speculative. The Manntonice and "Mr. 58" examples, cited in this video, struck me as precisely the latter. Dogpack just sort of made a leap in logic without actually following up with either of those two guys. Hell, it would have taken no time to visit Manntonice's channel and find multiple videos of Mark Pate talking about his experience and its aftermath.
I got yelled at and called a beast apologist for saying dog pack was clearly a disgruntled employee when all this crap started. Think you can find my comment in the first video he dropped. The fact that I was right makes me feel like whatever username he used in Reddit. Just say you think you’re smart dummy. Stop using “made up language” to sound cool.
Also you need to apologize for all the damage you’re doing to beast channel. Sure he has issues as a big company and may have done some crypto shit or associated with people who took advantage of using Jimmys name but for the most part Jimmy is a good guy. Working with a lady who clearly faked mold on her lunchly box and a dude who has mental issues to help feed your lies is insane. And the fact all the people you targeted were people who fired you shows what a bitch you are. Move on and get another job with another creator. Instead you now will have to try and make your way as a content creator but I doubt people will follow you. You’ll have a ceiling.
Anyway Soggy good job exposing this POS. Sure Jimmy has issues but most companies do but at least he doesn’t do the lying like Dawson does. Good god.
It is kind of interesting that the MrBeast machine finally ran into an enemy that was obsessive about Youtube and how to manipulate the attention economy as MrBeast & Co was. Yeah they did have to rely on a mountain of half baked evidence and bad faith arguments, but Dogpack made the giant bleed in the first significant way ever. Too late to say if the reputational damage is permanent, but no doubt the brand has been damaged (among people who are older than 12 at least) as the momentum has been against MrBeast for months now, and the half the Youtube game is about optics. Hard evidence and receipts never stopped people tanking the career of someone like ProJared (or ChuggaConroy it looks like) for example after they heard just one side of the story. And even just personally I highly highly dislike the way MrBeast has changed Youtube so I was prepped in advance to be on Dogpack's side before I even watched his videos if that makes sense. And even if someone like Dogpack isn't the ideal spearhead of the anti-MrBeast movement, Jimmy has already exhausted all my goodwill after watching that Coffeezilla video, so honestly: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
59:31 Your research is more credible than the work of that company who was paid to investigate, because that is always a conflict of interest, and I don't actually care if Dogpack had broken an NDA to tell the truth, his fraud speaks for itself that's the problem.
@@shadowed69 While he hired a RSO, what does that have to do with the video?
The video is ment to disprove dogpacks claims because some were fake. He is not attempting to put Mr.Beast in the limelight as he states himself in the video.
Its just disproving claims with no evidence/bad evidence from dogpack. where are you getting this narrative?
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago. He was paid. This guy is definitely a cuck.
The way I see it, the majority of people associated with Mr Beast are parasitic in nature. They only focus on getting that AdSense bag and profit each other's controversies for their own sake. Genuinely just want to hear about Mr Beast getting shut down not because I think he deserves it, but because his entire company stinks of the exact kind of corruption that's currently killing the mainstream entertainment industry.
Did.... Bro listen to the video at ALL? I seriously hate when people say this because he has well structured arguements and unlike dogpack is actually showing true sources and runnning background checks.
Yeah, I fucking knew Dogpack was an asshole. Him trying to deflect blame by saying he’s not getting money was so stupid. That only adds evidence for what the motif for your actions are. In some cases it could be benevolent, but in others it could be spiteful.
He literally RAN illegal lotteries to MILLIONS kids. Then started pulling said^ illegal lotteries from the internet. I don't know if dogpak piece of sh&^ or cool. Mr. Beast... is ... pulling illegal lotteries.. had a sex offender in the company. Peace. oh ... he did lunchly lmao. idc lunchy
@@ynam.2622 If i enter lottery.. Paid... and someone WON by spamming inside chat.. (free) THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL.
Are you guys 5?
People had paid entries... and in those paid entries "winner in next 5 minutes. BUY sh&* guys"
then 10 minutes later... "winner in 5 minutes BUY shi& now!"
I mean... he keeps GIVING incentive to BUY into a lottery for next 5 minutes.. THEN extends the TIME... thats ILLEGAL.. HE IS TAKING THEM DOWN.. the "really bad ones"
The lotteries were not illegal as if you had watched the video, he explicitly states that you can enter for free in shopify or through the app and even shows someone who won something from those “illegal” lotteries for free by just spamming the live chat enough times to be seen and selected.
At first I just thought you were dumb, now, I believe you and pyrocynical are just puppets payed off by MrBeast using a Lattitudes Of Acceptance manipulation technique to sway public opinion back to his favor.
@@jayv3n_n right, so you’re defending an idiot that only cares about money and definitely not his fans (who might I add doesn’t even know you exist) and your reply is « world war iii » go back to school 😹😹 sophomore in high school, you’re actually cringe bro damn, don’t worry you’ve got that asshat mr beast to treat you like a brainrotted child for when you get home from school at least. before talking to your « seniors » you literally live in America so obviously your « seniors » are gonna be dumb
@@boiwhoactuallyareyouOr better yet, how about you all go get a real life? Like seriously, why are my seniors—AKA adults—out here doing all this? I genuinely don’t get it. Coming from a sophomore in high school, if I had a girlfriend, I’d be talking to her instead of wasting time commenting on nonsense like this. Do we need a World War III or some wild catastrophe in the U.S. to knock some sense into everyone? Because at this point, it’s starting to look like it.
@@TheDarkSideOfJupiter-h1bthat’s just not true. they were well aware and jimmy not knowing what his « brother » was up to is actually impossible, they were in several discord servers together and Reddit servers which I’ve seen actual proof on. look it up, or keep riding that meat bro all the same to me
I completely agree with everything you said; sadly, it made me very clear that there's a lot of misinformation on Mr Beast's case. And it's kinda hard to really find videos like this one that speak this fully about all those issues without it being split into parts for likes and views. Also, I don't know if this was on purpose or not but damn, you speak like a dumbass or as if you bit your tongue during the entire video it's low-key annoying.
Ah, yes, because the man was literally in Germany and had to fly to South Carolina. He sounds European, he looks European—are you sure you're not just blind, dumb, or maybe a little racist?
59:43 thing is i dont believe this guy but i think the discord beef you two had(?) is clouding a lot of your research into being way too favourable for mr beast. Theres way too many holes in your rationale especially if you know how high scale productions and media companies usually conduct business/content. Most of what you've laid out doesn't outright debunks the most egregious claims made by dogpack. They only provide a more palatable version absolving mr beast without any substantive independent research or proof.
In addition to commenting on this video twice, MrBeast spontaneously DMs Youtubers like Pyrocynical and Dylan Zitkus on Instagram to watch this video, presumably to make videos about it. Make of that what you will, but I find that quite strange.
"I'm too lazy to translate your made up language" this one sentence tells me everything I need to know about how dogpack operates... pure laziness and sheer ignorance.
This video presents a lot of valid evidence and perspectives but to me nothing speaks louder on his character than this statement from him, the guy is plain and simply just a douche
Don't get why anyone trusted Dogpack in the first place. All it took was 5m listening to him on Ludwig's stream and I knew the dude was a fucking shady weirdo.
KRIS HIS NAME IS FUCKING KRIS HE IS A NONCE stop respecting him by playing into his delusion. Trans people I respect your wishes and I will respect your preferences until you involve children in which case you do not deserve the respect. If someone tells me they are a kettle I'll call them a kettle if thats what they want to be called and thats how they want to express themselves I'll happily play into that delusion nonces do not and should not get that respect at all
@@t-eehee7057 one of my closest friends are trans I even questioned myself if I was trans I respect the community but my bro quinno (ftm trans friend) is disgusted that Kris is even claiming to be trans and he's annoyed that people like Kris are the very reason people hate on trans
@@StrikerEureka13 as I mentioned in my comment I accept trans people I will respect you and your preferred pronouns I'll even defend you on that until you involve children then you don't deserve to be respected in the slightest so unless you are a nonce yourself I really don't see how that would affect you? Why would you accept him as a trans?
tbh call them kris or chris i dont really care cause as a pedo i dont think they deserve the extra effort to get their gender right but ordering other people to call them a certain way, kris or chris is just weird.
stop moving the conversation to the fact they're trans. the issue is that they are a pedo.
Warcrimes doesn't mean whats actually happening in wars around the world. the USA won't put their prisoner through such a treatment to deny them the daylight or stay sleepless or water boarding...these are all forms of torture. 🤷 Jimmy doing this for views ....dangling a irrefutable 10k for every 24 hrs of torture is kind of f'ed up. he also told that he had the social pressure to not quit early (to avoid ruining the video) even though from the rules he could. it may also his affect his opportunities for appearing in more videos.
@@Monodexus maybe just watch the actual video before making up assumptions because there is alot of proof and btw idk what the hell is this drama is gonna be now it's really confusing
1:00:41 ummm soggy. It does Devalue the signature heavily. If it's not signed by the the original person, it means jack shit. Pawn Stars and people who verify signatures has proven this multiple times. You want the signature of Abraham Lincoln, Not the signature of his proxies which are secretaries and clerks.
Europa the last battle style propaganda, trying to defend one of the worst people in the world. We need a revolution to save us from the clutches of that billionaire now that people support him again.
1. Hiring a registered SO isn't a 'mistake'. It's very easy to do a criminal record check before you hire someone. It takes a few weeks to get the results. You're telling me 2 grown-ass adults didn't know about criminal record checks? 2. Attacking someone who was put through a horrible situation because there's wars around the world is giving "Kim, people are starving in Africa". Also, just because it was a 'joke' to call something a war crime doesn't downplay what happened to him. 3. You're literally defending a guy who sold chocolate bars to kids and had them visit a website where they could spin a virtual wheel to win prizes
Both you and dockpack are equally unfunny and poor at the simplest of research, but at least he's brave enough to go after someone like Mr. Beast who is a horrible person hiding behind philanthropy. What's your reason for making this exactly? Oh, probably money too.
This a horribly, HORRIBLY written comment. mamachromeYT stated most of my points, and your replies are literally "lol imagine not knowing grammar also I didn't watch the video that much haha."
You are literally contradicting your credibility. He literally stated that he's not trying to side with either "Mrbeast is good" and "Mrbeast is bad". He says what needs to be said, even checking out a few reasons he "sadly" has to agree with.
At 19, are you making YouTube videos with high production and research to make sure people are clear of their wrongdoings, or are you trying to goof off with your friends and have a good time.
Your watchtime basically proves if you were Dogpack and Soggy Cereal, you'd definitely be as "equally unfunny and poor at the simplest of research". He didn't do it for money, it's because Dogpack was being a pain in the butt with him.
@@manachromeYT Lots of spelling errors there "he was 19 and an amateur" Okay, what about his mother? I said 2 grown adults. At 19, I knew about criminal record checks.
1 he was 19 and was an amateur 2 he address what happened to him at the end of the video. 3 at the end of the video he mentioned that mr beast should stop colabing logan Paul 1:27:02
Did you ask about the fake philanthropy that Dogpack404 brough up in Rosanna's videos, like the CGI hospital. What about the other scummy philanthropy like cleaning a beach that the main channel dirtied in the beginning?
unbelievable. yes, dawson has made mistakes, some of these look like bad lies, too. but what you do is just as bad!
going for all the lowest hanging fruit, the weakest and least relevant of all allegations without nuance (many are not accusations, btw, wtf is meaningful fbi report). including debunked "accusations" that were never made by dawson but attributing them to him to make him look unreliable (ie delaware nickname, feastables child labor). crossing things off completely when it turns out that one part of the evidence was untrue (100 boys vs girls was still allegedly rigged against boys). using false dichotomies among other logical fallacies and leading questions. and all of this pinned on dawson with the intent to kill his entire credibility. contrapoints explained exactly how most of this video is structured:
(accusation): dawson provided an incorrect comparison of nutrition between hersheys and feastables. -> (abstraction): dawson lied to make mr beast look fraudulant -> (essentialism): dawson is a manipulative liar
if dawson's agenda is to get revenge as a disgruntled employee, what's your motivation for such dirty malice? is this controlled opposition?
This goes to show why people are stupid nowadays who believes everything without looking closely at the details and casually believes everything because they want to see mrbeast downfall lol, dogoack also has the audacity to make friends with other creators to promote his false gay allegations then again goes to show how egotistical dogpack is
Watching all these guzzlers join together to massive swallow, gulp, and glaze Mr. Beast and others is horrifying. OP and other commentors on this video should sincerely consider consuming copious amounts of cockroach poison and insecticide.
Please consider the well-being of the human race and everyone else around you. Youtube algorithm can remove my post as many times as it wants to protect your feelings. I don't care. You chose to exist online, you can't hide from the shame and repercussions of your lifestyle.
Why would I waste 1½ hours watching zoomers blast shit on each other? I gave your video 33 seconds, it's 33 seconds more than this piece of shit deserves. Sadly it will haunt me in my algorithm.
@@UrFatherr-yg7yl alright so in 53:05 soggy tries to prove that the timer in the 10 minute real time vid isn’t added in post but yet he skips the part where dogpack mentions that the intro is sped up and the guy touches the laser
Well if this is truth then you could say is a hero because imagen all of us believing mrbeast is the worst person in the world, when in reality a ex employee just said all these fakes things because he was mad they fire him
Sloptubers capitalizing off trends are far bigger criminals and should be demonetized at the very least. Especially when they are pushing such false/overblown narratives while contributing nothing meaningful to them.
I find it weird that Dogpack defenders claim that the people who are against dogpack are being paid by mr beast even though Jake himself was paid by mr beast
I knew this guy was a sack of shit the moment he talked about the CGI in his first video. Not even like 10 minutes into the video I knew he was full of shit. Now does that mean Jimmy is innocent? Hell to the hell no. But man Im good at reading people!
Take all attempts of people "exposing" with skepticism. Chances are it's being done for additional reasons than whats presented. Including petty and malicious ones.
I think way to many people trying to pick sides in this drama while Dogpack404's claims where made with a lot of exaggeration and can be easily disproven Jimmy still has not talked about the accusation's and is not the saint that people claim he is. There can be arguments where both parties are in the wrong and both need to apologize.
Messed up how someone can make up so much and be believed whole heartedly and the other side (jimmy) is hated on as hard as possible. Then when he gets exposed for lying, everyone shifts to the middle saying "both bad" and "idk who to believe" and "ok im not gonna pick a side"
42:54 I’ve seen Doobus Goobus MrBeast video. It’s essentially an animation of him calling out Twitter users for hating on MrBeast for his curing 1000 blind people video.
I feel like Mr.Beast who is the one that the claims are directed to should've been the one to do the debunking not you but maybe you are Mr.Beast so I don't know.
@@jaman6622 look when you have allegations it can be seriously stressful especially if you know that the person isn't that great either. I would know from personal experience.
People don't trust MrBeast's response or any evidence thrown at them to disprove the allegations, and are likely to be biased in favor of cancel culture.
I recommend looking into the witch hunt against Daniel Lee 'Tablo.'
no one said he is innocent, the first illegal lottery, the ava kris tyson situation, the crypto scam and the lunchly stuff is still on him, he was probably silent for legal reasons
@@venomous7321 Yeah but still why did he delete scenes in his older videos to remove evidence??? Why does he launch lunchly and say it is healthier than luncheables. LUNCHLY HAS MOLD IN IT. CMON. Still Mrbeast knew about Ava Tyson. He did that crypto stuff. Dockpack isn't perfect but Mrbeast should be locked up.
@@jaman6622this is why you aren’t in his position. The moment you got into drama you would crumble and admit to things you didn’t do. This isn’t highschool. If someone accuses you of heinous things, you respond through a lawyer (which he did)… he had an outside team of lawyers do an investigation. Use your brain bro, actually try to think for once in your life. Maybe watch the hour long vid that will explain everything to you. You have so many options but being an idiot seems to be the one you are choosing
@@d0ct0rz3d4 If I made a video defending some random dude and that random dude commented on my video would that mean I did something shady with that random dude?
"Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol" - the deleted comment made by mrbeast..... there's nothing shady about this.. no no!
Let's assume he is paid by Mrbeast, would that make him any less correct about the falsehood of some of the allegations. Don't judge people right away just cause they don't agree with you.
People like you clearly didn't watch the video because if you did you would see that he also makes arguments towards mr beast and has done actual research.
@@Twag7 Something along the line of someone finally making actual reports instead of just slandering with a bunch of hearts added to it. (Even though this video is almost entirely slandering, just towards someone else, but ok)
I'm sure we'll see a screenshot of it in a youtube video soon enough ;)
Edit: Fun part is that Beast is going around asking youtubers to react to this video. If only he put in half the effort in actually being a decent person...
I never got the warm fuzzies from DogPack, but pretty much went along with it, because it appeared he was bringing the receipts, and Jimmie did nothing to defend himself.
I am a little confused as to why Jimmie wouldn't protect his company - perhaps gearing up for a massive lawsuit?
1:03:54 Dogpack reminds me a lot of Syndrome from the Incredibles, it's basically the same origin backstory lol
Both idolized someone and wanted to work for them, both were rejected and decided to actively go against them and become a villain... Syndrome is better though
Good video. Actually providing evidence to support and actually PROVE your claims. If anyone comes after you like pansino or some shit, they are doing it because they are mad and are using this as a way to get views. Thank you for posting this.
@@DDArtsArts That I do not trust Soggy, who claims to trust Stucky o so much on his research. That Stucky is a pos that uses a wonderful human being to push a point he does not understand and is incorrect, as well as that this video is highly questionable.
This video is so dumb, bad and full of "loop hole" arguments jeez While I do agree that Dogpack lied about some stuff, he was right about others - Illegal lotteries - CGI was used - Darcy Oake is trained actor proving that mrbeast DOES hire actors and script videos - The raft challenge. Dogpack was right - Those were not random subscribers (he was right but just didn't have the right context) - Feastables is still bad for you. Mrbeast should stop acting like it's "the healthier alternative" - Jimmy did not commit w@rcrimes but sleepdeprivation was genuinely something they did to Jake -There's videos of Mrbeast with a l0li pic next to him in his house with Chris, meaning HE DID know about Chris
Your entire debunk argument sounds like a really bad cheaply paid lawyer
@@norhe. Nope... I simply had a very rough childhood that caused a lot of trauma that I had to understand and deal with, as well as the habits I had to learn on a young age to get by. I look at why people do the things they do since I was young and why they say the things they say and not just what they say. You don't have to go to school to learn psychology if you pay attention in life or get forced to on a young age, you only have to go to school to specialize in psychology. Most people that understand psychology only do so from experience, just being booksmart doesn't help in this field.
@@norhe. You realize the thing you're asking me to teach you is psychology, right..? Pointing out nuanced patterns isn't easy, especially not if the person you explain them to can't see them.
@@norhe. Nobody said anything about not remembering. I remember quite fine, it's just pointless to explain it to people who don't recognize it themselves... It requires to carefully choose words, showing references, fighting word-nitpickers and basically just make a whole youtube video, which I do not have time or energy for, nor would I get paid for it yet it would cost me... And you'll still always have people who disagree regardless. Like I said, just wait for the future.
@@norhe. How would those be the patterns..? I don't have the language to properly explain it, else I would... Soggy is shady, there are plenty of hints to that. Watch it again I'd say, maybe you pick up on them. Else just wait till someone makes a reaction video and points it out for you step by step. I'm not putting in the hours to find the words and the receipts to explain it to you, sorry, I'm not getting paid for any of this.
@MunkeyKung And also if the "advanced" patterns are soggy exposing someone exposing beast, then you should realise how often people throw false accusations and another person disproving them 😭
@@norhe. I already stated that the video was solely there to discredit dogpack. He wants to paint him of as untrustworthy, chaotic and petty, all so his words lose meaning to the public since most don't understand nuance. Which would let MrBeast of the hook from all the accusations that came from Dogpack, no matter how false or true they are. Bad man can't say good thing, right? Lets just wait and see what the future brings... You'll see this Soggy person isn't all that trustworthy.
This sounds like it was made by dogpack. He did say one lottery was true and completely obliterated the rest of your bullshit. Watch the video you literal fetus
Whataboutism. -Illegal lotteries: soggy cereal said dogpack was right? -CGI was used: It was used but not nearly at the level dogpack was claiming not to mention dogpack lying about a bunch of cases. -Darcy Oake: I dont know much abotu this one but him having an actor in his video does not mean that he was hired or that his videos are scripted. -The raft challenge: Soggy cereal admitted he was right but dogpack did imply something quite different. Dogpack was saying they had a "Production Yacht" and didnt mention the storm putting them in danger. -Those were not random subscribers: they were?? -Feastables is still bad for you: It is the healthier alternative?? Dogpack was clearly in bad faith when he was talking about this. -Jimmy did not commit warcrimes: That is messed up but he could also leave at any point? -Theres a video of Mrbeast: I cant say much about that I personally think he knew about it but he could also have thought it was just some weird edgy dark humor.
I think youre missing the point of the video. Soggy cereal said dogpack was right about a few things but the whole point of the video was about the misinformation/bad faith dogpack had while making it.
@@thefastrightptg5048 I watched the entire video and I don't trust this dude. And I can promise you that my brain can comprehend more than you know. But tell me, what is the point other than trying to make dogpack look like his word can't be trusted?
I mean there are still doggy things from the Beast Company, like Team Sea wich Coca Cola is involved, or make Buildings look more Run down and all this Crypto Stuff like brought forward by Coffezilla, Misleading Advertisement Time and that Lawsuit apparently. But it‘s good to see that
Coffezillas investigation isnt complete? What is the problem with Coca Cola being involved in team seas? And making buildings look more run down is bad depending on who you ask.
I was just thinking how everything Dogpack did was horrible in relation to this, as the saying goes, “When you strike at a king, you must kill him.”. You need to only include the perfect stuff, you can't include any stuff that can be used to discredit you and you should distance yourself personally from the evidence as well.
It was wrong how his channel was called Dogpack404 (unrecognisable, not rememberable, personal name) instead of a proper channel that would be laser focused on just this drama. It was wrong that his thumbnails and titles were extremely generic and it led to me personally missing when new videos were uploaded because I thought they were the old ones. Then there is his weird rant at the camera at the start of the video.
Like Mr. Beast has supposedly faked stuff, he has been neglegent with various operations but to showcase that you need to bring proper receipts.
I won't watch this video; in my mind MrBeast did questionable things, and Dogpack was hyperbolic. I can't waste my time on something I don't care about.
Mr Beast said it himself that all he studied for in his life, was to know how to become "youtube fame". the exposings and i believe even this video here are all his doing.
@@d0ct0rz3d4 it's not abt if he's genuine or not. It's abt if he is helping ppl or not. It's abt the ppl not the person who's helping.
It's really easy to act morally correct behind the keyboard on comment and brother trust me, you me wouldn't be doing what Jimmy is doing if we were in his position. We'd just dip with all the millions
@@d0ct0rz3d4so that he can make more money out of the charity and help more ppl? How else would he go from giving a random homeless man 10k to building 100 homes to ppl in need in Africa
@@matt38148He’s still not a good person and he’s not genuine when he does it. I don’t even like dogpack but it’s clear MrBeast is also run by a pretty shady company
@@matt38148 You actually believe he's genuine about helping those people? He does it just to make himself look good, why else would he record himself doing those things?
regardless of what people will end up believing you did an amazing job man, all the info you got, all the research, and the way you did it is seriously remarkable, not to mention you did it in an unbiased way. Great job man, you should be proud
Got to "Warcrimes" section and this guy wastes 5 solid minutes trying to prove what is and isn't a joke, completely glancing over the fact that keeping a person in 24/7 light destroying their circadian rhythm is brutal no matter was the warcrime remark joke or not. No point watching any further.
@@Paladont what are you talking about? if there are facts that disprove the accusation that the guy was sleep deprived, why they aren't in this video in the section that "deconstructs" this case? Instead we have in deep analysis of what was and wasn't a joke - which is just moronic. Also the fact that Soggy Cereal has to deviate and talk about real wars clearly states he has no facts, and tries to play with emotions instead.
@kkrup5395 it's so crazy because your second response is just confirmation that you still believe the lie but want to hide behind the idea that it's a joke
@kkrup5395 even if he was a prisoners of war, it did not come anywhere close to the level of sleep deprivation outlined by the genva convention. You doubled down on your lie
@@Paladont lied about what? That Mr.Beast committed a warcrime? Yes, if you want to be technical 🤓we can't call that a warcrime since the guy wasn't actual prisoner of war. But that's it, the rest of the story weren't negated in any way. The guy couldn't physically sleep in conditions that Mr.Beast's team created, and they didn't do anything about it because the production quality is more important than a person's health. What "warcrime joke" has to do with anything? You guys are doing "actually, the raccoon wasn't a paid actor" type argument again.
He got paid 10 thousand a day. It was a challenge. He could leave at anytime. Do you think he should just get 100k easy, without having some difference in his surroundings. He had a choice its not a war crime. They talked avout in this video to highlight dogpack constant malicious framing at ever turn without any nuance. You're an idiot.
"Yeah they lied about it and millions of people thought it was a warcrime...but leaving the lights on is really bad so you should have just shut up about it."
Companies record termination meetings or calls or whatever to create a clear and legal record of the conversation, protecting both the organization and the employee by ensuring transparency, compliance with policies, and protection against disputes
Youre an dumb. The issue is Dogpack manipulated a member of the public, not in the public youtube space, to say certain things that he, Dogpack manipulated his answers to fit an anti beast agenda that the member of the public was not aware of or cosigned. Thus fucked up his life quite a bit. Soggy just plays what happened to a guy who been lying about lots stuff and getting views on youtube.
there was literally internal investigation happening that Prohibited him from talking about the situation. That's also why dog pack got court notice or whatever they are called
So in summary, a person trying to expose a scumbag is willing to be a scumbag as long as enough people are naive enough to believe em. Such is the world we live in.
Conclusion: Mr. beast is still not off the hook, there are several questions. But this video does bring in the question what I found of Dogpack.. The question marks I have on some of the things he claimed.
The thing is... I always questioned Mr. Beast content and Dogpack "happened" to have the right answers if not abit extreme and illogical, but he backed it up with decent editing and no way in hell am I gonna do days of research finding out the truth.
But with this video and CoffeeZilla's video and the recent things Mr. Beast is doing... Yea something ain't right within that company and Jimmy himself.
As for Dogpack? Yea something never lined up perfectly. It was how it went from: "okay this is believable and this is odd." To "Isn't this abit outlandish?"
Wich was his second video, but after that I was like: ""I am done with this stuff now. I am going to wait for information from other sources till I know."
And even this video is just making me go: "So dogpack lies and we got evidence and we have possible AI in the mix but now...? No side really can produce perfect evidence." Because now the pot is just: "What is true lies?" Once there is too much "deceit" involved. It starts going with... what is real anymore? You start getting skeptical of what's right or wrong. What parts of Dogpack are lied? But what parts of Mr. Beast was being covered up and lied about too?
So I'll just wait here till I know more of the whole thing and the lawsuits come to bear. I may not like Mr.Beast but something felt off on Dogpack's videos too... but now I can put my finger on it.
Eitherway, stay skeptical people and find the truth. I am not saying Soggy didn't do their job. I am just saying wait for every bit you can find. And if you don't want to.. wait for someone else to do it.
@@QT_cul So, he asks Soggy Cereal to prove a few allegations and recommend Coffeezilla's video investigating his crypto scam, and also calling out Lunchly (including his collab with KSI and Logan Paul).
This assumption that 'Soggy is working with MrBeast' makes no sense at all.
he deleted it because it appears as if soggy cereal and mrbeast planned the video together which is one sided journalism and wouldnt make the video authentic.
The main thing that caught my eye while watching your video is how quick you is to brush off jake's situation, while the war crime claim was bogus(but frankly I was surprised anyone took it seriously), you also tried to imply that the fact jake weddle was payed and "wasn't a detainee" made it...moral?
The fact Jake was payed is specifically why the argument why "he could leave anytime" doesn't hold any water, its well known that humans will push themselves to the limits, even do immoral actions if desperate for money, in Jake's case he pushed himself to the point of borderline PTSD, and frankly who wouldn't? would anyone not push themselves to the point of trauma if offered so much money? what Jake went through is similar to coercion, and its all on mrbeast and his crew for having inhumane conditions there.
People keep blaming Jake, saying he "made money" or "could leave anytime", but if I hypothetically could give you enough money to buy a mortgage, but you had to cut your arm for it, would that be ok or moral for me to do? of course not, so I don't get why people unironically follow the same train of logic in the weddle situation.
Actual reality tv shows are heavily moderated for this very reason, because without moderation people would unironically kill themselves for the cash prize, and the fact mrbeast had no moderation is the thing that was unethical and immoral, and I am tired of people downplaying it as anything else but a insanely inhumane and negligent act.
ive rewatched the 2nd dogpack video and now the entire war crimes thing you pointed out is a huge false narrative, the literal next line jake says is "they don't even do that to prisoners" after the war crime comment, its not him saying "they did war crimes on me!!!" its to put it into perspective just how messed up what they did is, that not even war criminals and terrorists are treated as badly as him.
alongside this, the whole defense you made for jimmy's delaware fiasco is downright disgusting and makes it very hard to think of his video as unbiased due to it, his defense was basically "oh but jimmy was a but 19 year old boy who did a immature oopsie :c, besides delaware is already fired so who cares", which is absolutely disgusting, soggy...this is a situation of mrbeast hiring a FUCKING P3DOPHILE to work for his COMPANY WHICH HAS A CHILD AUDIENCE, the fact you even had the guts to defend this either shows bias or the fact you geniunely thinks p3dophilia is not a big deal, either way not a good look.
Aswell How did you get those recordings? Like the stuff about dogpack crying and begging for his job is really weird. For starters why did someone recorded that? And how did you got the record? Someone would had given it to him.
Secondly you also clearly implied Coffeezilla is a slanderous liar for criticizing him being a crypto guy despite beast and coffee working together before.
And last. I feel that a lot of the arguments for the lotteries and stuff like that where really weird. Like "oh well everyone does this so it doesn't matter" which... No it doesn't work like that. Anyways this is just my opinion thought what do you think?
How would dog pack know all this stuff despite only being an employee for a short amount of time that’s what I found suspicious about all of this even in the beginning
The worst part`? Its gonna be impossible to trust any commentary youtubers now, including you, if its so easy to hide and still have everyone believe it means no youtube video will ever be trust worthy.
Doing research is not impossible? Just be a little critical about the sources? Just cause someone sounds confident doesn't mean what they are telling is true, people gotta learn that. Critical thinking.
dude most the stuff you say here literally isnt fair i mean for example pointing out the fact he corrected himself with the warcrime joke thing could totally just be him correcting himself it doesnt add anything
i hate how some people point out that dogpack lied about stuff, and then use that as an excuse to paint mr beast as a saint. dogpack is not entirely correct, and neither is the beast
@@Tortoisetealover all the evidance is either made by mr beast team or was "Fixed" after the drama in a damage controll move mr beast didn't pay for curing people blindness until after being exposed.
@@Ahmad-z3o3z Again not everything is malicious it is very possible Soggy made a mistake, but it doesn't take away from all the good evidence he has and the Mr. Beast comment could have just been him seeing the video and deciding to comment
Lied about what jimmy did run an illegal lottery 1:24:20 lmao Beside Saggy did lie youtube change its UI multiple times and the UI 3 mounths ago was identical to Dogpack404 17:26 . Mr beast most likely sponsored this video scince he did comment out of all the drama he decided to comment on this very video in a now deleted comment😂😂
I am so fucking tired of this. Every month is just a new 'seemingly good person is actually a lying, manipulative POS!' Not saying your video was bad or anything, I just want a good person that is good for the sake of it for once.
Were the chat logs were he was supposedly taking with Chris about inappropriate things is it just him making edgy jokes and didn't realize what Chris was doing(which i think is true) or was he actually talking with Chris and didn't relize what was doing or did it anyway (i don't think he did it on purpose or at all)
I'm so happy you made this video. Ever since the first dog pack video, I was infuriated by how bad faith every single argument was. Going in and tearing up every point he made was a great strategy. You've left the guy with no legs to stand on and his credibility ruined. Now at this point it's just about getting the truth out there.
1:13:26 exactly my thoughts when i first heard Jake Weddle complain 😅 some people just approach challenges differently, Jake just isn't meant for that type of thing
I did not really believe dogpack that much for some of the reasons said on the video and the stuff that was just false. I believed some of the others to be true. But that's where I was wrong.
This video isn't only debunking dogpack to me, it also shows the most diabolical accusations can be foiled and erased with a simple google search or a bit of looking yourself and you really should be doing that instead of jumping to conclusions or believing everything said.
Mostly everybody (myself to an extent included) believed this random person only for some of the claims said to be as equivalent to somebody saying "Word of mouth" or evidence that was hiding the true picture.
I feel stupid for not looking into it more, but i wont go on tht for too long. Main point was i had my suspicions of dogpack already. and this video has given me peace of mind and me feeling stupid because on one hand, i had the right to be suspicious of dog pack. on the other hand, i believed dogpack to a degree myself.
But im more happy that some of the things he has gotten wrong are coming out more. Thank you for making this video.
@@LongGone2 um no I'm just not delusional and refuse to let you make mental illness normal. So yeah soggy can make good points but chris Tyson will forever be a man with mental illness.
@@Dloopgroop Its less me being a "crybaby" and more over me be concerned you ignore anything that doesn't match a whiff of your wavelength instead of being open-minded.
@@Dloopgroop In other words, you are ignoring proof because they said something that does not meet your preferences. Not even going to entertain this one.
@@ineophobe 🤣 the idea you think those 2 things: race which is in reality and tr4ns nonsense are equivalent is hilarious. I don't reinforce the guy screaming on the street the toaster is talking to him either.
@ineophobe because he's a dude. Race is a phenomenon experienced in reality while your mental illness shouldn't be laundered into normalcy through subtle placation. His identity aka mental illness while ironically stereotypical with his actions is as legitimate as a guy thinking the toaster is talking to him. I don't need to acknowledge either delusion.
this is such a dumb thing to care about, no one's calling edp the n word for what he did so why go after kris for her identity instead of the disgusting stuff she's done
@@soldiergaming3523 maybe I ignored the fact that Soggy has flown half way across the planet met with CURRENT mr beast emploies who talked trash about dogpack had access to behind the scenes insider information and all he did with it is prove what mr beast did AFTER being exposed we call that damage control in order to save his brand like curing blindness video.
@@Ahmad-z3o3zthat doesn’t necessarily mean it is a sponsorship. This is one of the only popular videos defending him, yet soggy cereal still showed some claims were true. He likely made this because dogpack direct messages him at first.
With the whole "faking challenges" thing. Mr Beast should've just made it clear in the videos what changes were made and why. I.e. leaving the boat for safety. I don't think anyone would've complained about it. Leaving it more hidden in interviews etc can come off as hiding or covering it up (even if he wasn't). Would've saved a lot of trouble
Wish I could get my time back that I wasted watching dogpack404’s slop, but I had a funny feeling the whole time, felt like he was just desperate and pulling at strings so I didn’t take any of it seriously. Nice to see that I made the right call.
so your way of “exposing” someone is saying “these claims sound so stupid, sounds like a movie plot”, then ask people softball questions like “did this hurt you mentally” when that has nothing to do with the legitimacy of what was said. nice. single party consent recordings are pretty much the basis of undercover journalism, people generally talk more honestly when they don’t suspect they’re being recorded. so the guy, who has suffered from this story being released, doesn’t sue him for slander (since his video did cause him monetary damages, he would probably have grounds to do so) but instead he goes on an interview to just say it was “gossip”. yeah, great journalisming there dude. interviews with people who have a vested interest in saying the accusations are false. so much more credible than the dogpack videos
That Jake Weddle dude was in my algorythm for like a month from watching these videos and i finally got rid of him, if he's back in my alogorythm from watching this i'll never forgive you, great video though
@@stephenparsons2392 he doesnt defend those ethics he points out the hypocrisy and non sense of some of these claims. MrBeast is only your average big companywith ethical problem but he isnt a monster, and Dogpack is just a hypocrite.
@@jjen_ I watched the Delaware part, which everyone already knew. I watch the War crimes part which was whatever , and I stopped at illegal lotteries , because he was highlighting the no purchase necessary. Stopped there and made my comment saying we shouldn't defend people with unethical practices
Did you watch the video or not cause he said multiple times that he condemns some of mrbeasts practices. The video just covers the problem with dogpack404 since it’s affecting people that it shouldn’t
yet it also doesnt change that some stuff he said was infact right, he has shown a lot of evidence that cannot and has not been disproven, no nitpicking or getting rid of context can change that
also doesnt help you clearly got something to do with mrbeast, that you somehow managed to get some of his highest level employees to talk with you.
What an insane take. So interviewing anyone from any side instantly makes someone biased? Does that mean interviewing ex-employes also made DogPack biased? Are we supposed to solely talk to people who have nothing to do with the situation at hand?
@@kingkong-gm6pp you sure? i saw it and its pretty average 3.9/5 soooooo yea (its 0.1 lower than average bank jobs (4/5) and way higher than average 9-5 job on the site (2.3/5) and its considered very safe) BTW most of the review are by fired employees or past employees so normally reviews are gonna be very bias.
I thank you for this video this clears up many things however being right in some things doesn’t make him without fault, he still had his friends sign shirts for him, he still lied on the number of wells built, he made buildings bigger with CGI, his best friend who had shadman drawings in the building and gave obvious signs he was a PDF file, he hired locoya hill and kept him, a man who does sexual content and Mr beast still deleted evidence, he needs to respond correctly to this things
dude, doesn’t matter if it’s a public document, it’s still doxxing: “search for and publish private or identifying information”. doesn’t have to be private
Mr beast is definitely shady but word of mouth isn't the way to prove it. It's also not a good way to prove innocence which is most of what this video does so honestly both videos are bad for that reason, they rely to heavily on word of mouth.
the "he could leave whenever he wanted" is not a good argument if I walk up to a homeless guy and ask if I can torture him for 10k/h (he can leave whenever he wants) its still obviously very questionable morally
and the "war crime" part seems like an obvious joke considering its literally impossible for 2 civilians of the same country to perform warcrimes on each other lol
I really enjoy your content makker. You're one of the few channels that actually do their own research and dont blindly repost and believe slop that other channels already posted for money
Imagine if soggy cereal got exposed for something, then the exposer of soggy cereal also gets exposed, ad infinitum, infinite exposing, infinite slop junk content, unlimited drama that never ends
I still refuse to believe that what he did constituted as an illegal lottery. He was selling a product that included an opportunity for random rewards. Suppose that’s considered as an illegal lottery, In that case, KitKat and many other large companies should also face lawsuits, as they often engage in similar marketing practices of offering reward opportunities with their products. He wasn’t selling the chance to win, he was selling the product. A lottery involves selling the opportunity to win. Naturally, he highlighted the lottery aspect because the prizes were huge, but at the end of the day, he was still selling merchandise and chocolates.
The thing is msot of the info here is just testimonies that contradict the testimony of other people.
We humans are presupposed to believe people that show their face. As someone who worked at big companies: You can have a great relationship to your boss and the boss can be a horrible person. Those are not mutually exclusive statements. People are usually blind to abuse in the workplace if it isn't happening to them or a close person.
Dogpack was just one factor. The allegations from other sources, the amazon show drama, etc.
Sidenote: "He is hurting the philanthropy that helps thousands of people" Nah, bro. A person that uses philanthropy and charity as a shield from criticism is disgusting. If you want to start a charity. Be good or upfront.
Edit: If the allegations are exaggerated then there would be an immediate lawsuit. So far the only thing that happened is chest pumping. MrBeast's estate hasn't officially sued DogPack404. Meaning that they don't have enough to be sure that MrBeast would win.
Pretty sure the "warcrimes" was originally made as a joke, but (quite obviously) is meant to be more of a comparison, an anecdote. Like, "my situation was so bad, someone even compared it to a war crime, even if a joke", or something.
It was meant as a comparison (I think), and putting the emphasis on the "warcrime" part of "sleep depriving someone during a challenge is a warcrime" kind of misses the point of "sleep depriving someone during a challenge" ISN'T GOOD OR ETHICAL. Like, it's not LITERALLY a warcrime, but you get the point that it's UNETHICAL, and that's the entire issue with it. It's why everyone is so open to still referencing that it was originally made as a "joke".
This whole discussion of whether or not it's a joke is just semantics, I'm not impressed by it, Soggy Central.
@@norhe. If everyone knows that, then how is it being "hyperbole" a bad/misleading thing? Like, they never officially (or unofficially) sued MrBeast or made the UN investigate him or whatever. It was obvious it was just meant as a comparison thing - "this thing they did to me was so bad that I felt like they had committed a warcrime", but people like you (no offence) just sort heard "THEY COMITTED WARCRIMES ON ME" instead for some reason.
Ladies and Gentlemen, lets be EXTREMELY CAREFUL. Sure DogPack has done some very awful manipulative tactics and created some lies but that doesnt mean that everything he said is false. Espically now, MrBeast has things like manipulating his philanthropy videos like the hospital which soggy didnt mention, and saying to kids to work for Walmart, or something like that for to clear out his Feastables. And he still is censoring comments as well as editing old videos. And a whole bunch of other things. And with Lunchly not addressing that which is very bad considering that could have killed people which the mold. Basically even though Dogpack404 has lied and manipulating about some things which is very disgusting, that doesnt mean MrBeast hasnt been doing the same thing. So he is NOT off the hook should be investigated by FBI for who knows what shady stuff they're doing.
No it wasn't I am just saying while it clear that DogPack404 has to questioned on what he is lying and manipulating about? I wouldn't say that everything he said it is a lie and therefore Mr.Beast still has some answering that he needs to do for the shady stuff he's been doing like censoring comments, not responded to any allegations nor his team, and all the crypto and gambling promotion.
Thank thank you so much! I only was able to watch a few clips from the DogPack videos, but I could tell they were fishy, but there were NO Youtubers that I watched talking about it acknowledged it or were being fair to Mr. Beast at all. I almost thought free thinking was over lol I cannot express how great a video like this is to see, I have so much respect for you thank you!
I think this whole drama is a perfect example of why you shouldn't blindly believe everything you see online, especially on Youtube. People will say anything as along if it means they get more money.
And also, if you could debunk this so easily, why didn’t Mr. Beast do this? You’re telling me that you managed to do this but Mr. Beast’s entire crew couldn’t put this together? Bit sketchy, Soggy. Bit sketchy
@@magicdoggy9327 Soggy literally puts it in the video himself that everyone is trying to manipulate you. Jimmy, DogPack, and Soggy all have their own agenda and are alls Gary. Soggy misses DogPack404’s whole point that Jimmy is not the second coming of Jesus Christ and isn’t the best dude in the world. This is the equivalent of the whole Ellen Degeneres situation years ago
@@randomised7562 he blew Mr Beast whole persona of being a “good person” wide open and then to be followed by Lunchly only made it worse that Jimmy is purely in it for the money.
@DankMemeStonks, I understand your point, but you’re not MrBeast, and you likely don’t know how busy his schedule can get. Keep in mind that the allegations emerged over four months ago, and Soggy still hasn't covered everything. I doubt Mr. Beast's team wanted to invest more hours than they already did for the company. Anyway, it seems like you’re trying to discredit this video without any valid reason or proof.
@@DankMemeStonks yeah its because soggy cereal barely debunks any of the claims, especially the jake weddle one where he's like "oh but jake the viking also said this and he's a bad person therefore its false", like no bro, keeping someone in solitary confinement is still fucked up on so many levels. Soggy made this video out of spite towards dogpack, who I'm gonna agree isn't a good person himself and that's fairly obvious, but we shouldn't discredit what dogpack exposed and we have to give him credit for actually shining a massive light onto mr beast's shady side
@@Kyxnh to explain that pov, mr beast didnt do the proper background check and init of himself has also done shady things, this can be related to kris and the allegations along with other things, you can ask me questions if you want
2013, the day that i was borned i didnt cry, because i had a feeling something is hugging me tightly.
Then the docter almost drowned me in the sink, then the mysterious angel appeared to save me. Then i opened my eyes to find my mom crying, and it was colourful. When i was a toddler it started to fade away. As my third eye was open, i saw the angel for the first time and she said someting to me. "Bless your soul, you will be with me soon." Then faded away.
As i said to my cousin: "Look cousin! An angel!" Then she said "Theres nothing there." And i was disappointed to see that i was hallucinating.
Time passed by.. Now im 10, almost 11. Ever since the angel said that to me, my luck increased. And gave me a high score. The colours give me nostalgia ever since i was borned.
A couple people who I went to school with got weirdly interested in the mr beast thing once Ava Tyson's crap came out, and they really liked dogpark and making fun of mr beast. Like it was quite obvious they only cared because ava is trans, because they make "diddy" jokes, and jokes about the horrible actions she commited and others had commited like. and so much other weird hypocritical crap. (ie. taking everything as true even the warcrime thing, and then wishing harm on jimmy).
People hopping on that train is so weird, none of it is in good faith and neither is dogpacks crappy videos in good faith. Lot of bigots championing him.
@@manachromeYT Oh for sure, it's ashame that such a public figure outted as a predator happened to be trans, because people seem to care more that they're a predator whos trans more then a predator :(
Simply put: Influence of money is the source of drama. Everyone is shooting in the dark with evidence with faith theyve justified their morality and credibility of themselves. But has it really been FULLY checked, from every angle, and every side? No cuz thats simply impossible with the infinite amount of possible implications of sources/exclusion of sources which shifts meaning; no ones looking thru everything. So who do i trust? Mrbreast, dogpack404, soggy cereal? No one, im just here to watch the drama like in a theatre and be entertained in this twisted world. I will not trust anyone when money is a factor to someone im discussing something abt with to proove/disprove someone/somethinh, cuz i already well know ppl just want their fair share to live their lives contently or take down someone out of jealosy and spite of their demented success (what is a morally fair pay check for work: a 9-5 or being a yter? No one knows, just like this situation).
i don't how anyone ever believed that kid, people need to start doing their own research and not base their opinions off of what uncredible sources say.
@@randomised7562 soggy getting so much insider details about Beast corp for being a smaller channel is sus asf. I mean his airrack expose stuff was the reason i subscribed to him but other than that he's just another video essay guy. He definitely got the bag because he did criticise Dogpack in a past video. The Mr Beast comment was enough to know this is hitpiece done to discredit dogpack. Even if Jimmy bounce back from this at least dogpack made aware how pathetic and scummy how he's responding to all of this is. Edit: MrBeast even commented on TimeWorks' new video on calling dogpack a liar lmao. Dogpack might have a vendetta against mrbeast but still he's more trustworthy weirdly.
@@ps1de bro someone finally gets it, soggy cereal has made videos about dogpack in the past and clearly has a bias against him. He doesn't debunk any of the accusations but now we have some sheep chaning sides. Dawson may not be a good person, but he helped expose a lot of what Mr beast did, and hell soggy is definitely being sketchy asf here. I feel like this is a combination of what is a majority of spite, but also him getting paid off by mr beast to make this video
this video instead of debunking the allegations, feels like a try at making dogpack lose credibility and picture him nothing more than a disgruntled employee. How the hell would this dude get a damn recording of dawson being fired but Coffeezilla didn't even manage to contact an employee. Plus the comment by the man himself. Mrbeast definitely had something to do with this video coming out. What a fake scumbag, I miss pewdiepie being the most subscribed creator.
I doubt it man, bro barely debunks shit plus its just him being spiteful against dogpack. Hell bro even changed the video title (Its original one was the REAL truth about MrBeast) because it was so obvious that he's either being paid off by mr beast or is just making this video to discredit dogpack out of spite.
@@DankMemeStonks And I won’t be surprised if he deletes the video because Dogpack and Rosanna make counter-videos to this video and he gets backlash from them, just like when he had to delete the ‘slop’ video because of Dogpack.
I'd like to say my piece on the debunking mr beast's bars are unhealthier than Hershey's. While i do agree on an ounce basis the mr beast's chocolate bar is healthier but we're talking about the bar not the ounce. there's no 1 or 1.5 ounce mr beast bar only has 2 ounce so it's objectively an unhealthier option than Hershey's. Obviously I'm not taking into consideration whether the bar will be shared or not but thatt doesn't matter as I'm discussing which one is an unhealthier option in general not which one is unhealthier when shared which ironically is still mr beast's bar when splitting both between 2 though 1.5 ounces verses two isn't exactly fair. ok lastly I'd like to discuss how he talks about the topic and portrays it. Firstly i have a question, was the way i determined invalid? I do think to some degree i did bend things in a way to fit my narrative, didn't soggy do the same tho? now my second question is does Soggy's answer seem cherry picked? doesn't it seem like he bended the numbers in a way which would Fit his narrative and possible agenda while ignoring other valid ways to measure because they would threaten his narrative? If you think so that's called logos search it up. anyway yeah don't trust these internet dickheads or even me; I would rant more but I have a mr beast fanfic to write uwu
@@doorsarecool1713 thanks and the fanfic is going pretty good. jimmy went full p diddy mode on soggy last chapter with the melted feastable bottles Heisenberg cooked up for him
Hey , Soggy Cereal i think this might be worth disscussing. He did send a Cease and decist letter , It might have some merret behind him. Just so you know i am on neither side. I am at 16:53 so you might disprove it.
Hahaha hurting philanthropy. Yeah right.. what about that video where the company of they eye surgeries claims having gotten 0 pennies from MrBeast??? Bullshit whatabout excuses
When the Dog Pack video first came out, I couldn’t get past the first 20 minutes because it felt like a hit piece. It felt so sensationalized. Many of his claims felt like stretches. Something about his demeanor felt so…pitiful. But once Weddle and Rosana Pansino began speaking out, I was much more inclined to give him a chance. I do want to believe Pansino means well. I’ve always felt like she is honest, but impressionable. I think she got duped by Dog Pack. Unfortunately, though, my conclusion is that I’m not sure who to believe at this point, and I’m too busy to keep up.
@@CatInBag2763 i believe in abolition of private property, justice for us workers, a dictatorship of thr proleteriat, what more do i need to be a communist?
People really switch from hating Mr beast to hating people who come out with stuff to help hate Mr beast. Strange times. I guess people just hate everybody nowadays
So like soggy isn’t a slop creator neither is dogpack. Slop is if you react to something so if you’re making the allegations that isn’t but if you react to it; it is. (In my perspective)
@@NaLian605No ones watching an hour and a half of this guy's video dude, and many people can already sniff this guy out from a mile away for what he really is
@ The same applies to every other argument. Ah yes another employee working for mr beast stating that its not cgi. Great 👍. What a great argument. And before you say “well dawson said that its cgi, so?” It freaking looks cgi, have you seen the train? The explosion? Get corridor crew out and tney would explain. And yes bcs since this video came out Mr Beast has come out thanked this creator for “exposing”’him. Isn’t that suspicious that Jimmy is coming out now? And the video take down I was talking about while when he wrote a cease and desist letter. How isn’t that suspicious to you?
@ I did and could you tell me one including timestamp where this guy actually proves Mr Beast is held accountable other than “nuh uh” arguments. Yall are so gullible
@@Goji1954_minuszero Just one example? Thats all you got? And you completely ignored the screenshot he posted from an employ saying it was not digitally lifted. And what evidence does Dawson have for saying that it is CGI? He was the one who made the claim, the burden of proof is on him.
Mr Beast wants to take down dogpacks videos now? He's been active in the public for a good part since the controversy began, don't know what you're talking about.
@themartianbuggy3171 dont you find it a little suspicious how every single damn thing mr beast did was debunked and that it turns out he did nothing wrong and is 100% innocent? Definetly not like this guy is making propaganda!
@@themartianbuggy3171 He didn’t debunk a thing. The only thing he is saying is basically “nuh uh” to all of them. Dogpack - “this car shot was cgi” (proceeeds to show a car that looks cgi) This dude - “the car is not cgi” (nuh uh argument and showing scenes where the car could also be cgi. Stop believing him, please. And its not sus to you that Mr Beast wanted to take dogpacks video now? Why is mr beast coming out to the public now when thjs video came out and not then? Explain pls
@@Rogueboss2budgetedition mister, you're embarrassing yourself, you clearly didn't watch the video. Soggy said many times that mr he will debunking "most", not "all" of the claims. He also said that one of the lotteries was actually illegal, and held him accountable for the crypto scam thing.
@themartianbuggy3171 dont you find it a little suspicious how every single damn thing mr beast did was debunked and that it turns out he did nothing wrong and is 100% innocent? Definetly not like this guy is making propaganda!
@ Your meatriding him. This creator didn’t show a single evidence to prove them. Only he said is that “Mr beast actually didn’t do illegal lotteries, and this is false” no evidence to back that up
@@Goji1954_minuszero Yes, his argument was "Nuh-uh" but with evidence to back it up to prove it by using google display how DogPack 's depiction of the law was wrong for 2 out of the 3 lottery scams, behind the camera footage that contradicts DogPacks claims, the connections with people DogPack had that he abused causing their distress or online controversy against innocent parties and general contradictions. And you expect people to act like it was just nonsensical dribble.
@@Rogueboss2budgetedition I've personally checked the Discord archives before, it showed MrBeast would send a message every few months and he usually just posts a link to a video he was making or something, he didn't really actively engage with the discord community. Considering he was roommates with Kris at the time, it makes sense why he wasn't active often, why talk to someone on discord if you already live with them? Secondly, a drawing isn't proof he knew about the grooming; it just proves he knew Kris was a degenerate and that's it.
@@Rogueboss2budgetedition watch the video and you will get it. And also there are 3 allegations that are actually correct. So no he is not 100% innocent
@@Rogueboss2budgetedition also I don’t think MrBeast is a good person, crypto scams, and all that but actively lying and taking clips out of context to ruin a man career is just evil
@@NaLian605 remember how there was once a video with a poster of a half naked underaged girl in a mr beast video and he edited it out? Its clear he knew all along.
@NaLian605 dont you find it a little suspicious how every single damn thing mr beast did was debunked and that it turns out he did nothing wrong and is 100% innocent? Definetly not like this guy is making propaganda!
@@Rogueboss2budgetedition he never defended her. And if you watch the video. Dogpack accusation that mr beast knew was debunked. So there are no evidences that he knew
Like i said before, dogpack is ten time's more worst the mr beast, you can't change my mind in this, dogpack has hurt so many people because he is a petty disgruntled employee
@@arielperez3613 lets not forget him defending chris tyson and the him hiring RsOs and no soggy did not debunk it at all, bro just dismissed it without going into detail
@@Keeb_the_mof this is ragebait right? Mr beast literally knew about Chris being a pedophile, in one of his older videos, which I believe was the pizza delivery one there's literally a clip of him staring at a poster of shadman's (A CP artist) art of an underage girl, and its the same picture that Chris praised shadman for creating. Either you're a gullible kid or you're just ragebaiting for attention
@@Rogueboss2budgetedition correct me if I'm wrong, but bc mr.beast is giving out money to ppl, doesnt that make him somewhat of a communist? If I remember correctly communism just means that everyone shares things (like a property for example) and Mrbeast is sharing his money
Whether you think dogpack is worse is irrelevant, the point is that both have done very bad things. Dogpack for lying and MrBeast for doing crypto scams and treated his contestants like trash in beast games
@@Rogueboss2budgetedition no one is bootlicking or meatrding mr. beast, there are some wrong things he did and we acknowledge it, but it seems you cant acknowledge that dogpack is a liar too
@Rogueboss2budgetedition what are you talking about? Beast defended his friend because he didn't know what happened before it came out and again maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment, loser
@@tristanlwkns yes there is, look at some of soggy's past videos, soggy has been shown to have so much bias against dogpack for a while, plus it really does seem like mr beast is paying soggy off to make this video
@@randomised7562 There was no bias. Just because Soggy is being critical does not mean that he's bias. Forgot that Dogpack declined to speak to Soggy? One of the only YouTubers brave enough to go against all these manipulative allegations from Dogpack.
Dont know....why you seem like a jimmy roostersucker...a literal person sucking his rooster. Funny how you got all these Mr trash employees to talk to you....all at once. Actually you arent really disproving anything dogpack said..and in cases you are actually provind what he said. Yo are definetly payed by Mr Trash. I can also give you something to suck ok.
@themartianbuggy3171 Really? Let's see how smart you are then. What is the context of my comment? What exactly (do you think) am I saying Pls, humor me smart boy ! 😂😂
@@Stygros yes but that makes it worse, and its still bad even if he's not one. Jimmy knew this whole time and didn't even bother to try and get Chris out of a company that appeals specifically to kids. Its what makes Mr beast even more disgusting in my eyes, this guy genuinely has no morals
@randomised7562 mrbeast is a family friendly youtuber right? So it would affect his career if he exposed Chris. I agree with you on the other stuff tho.
@@Stygros no bro mr beast is still a horrible person and this video barely debunks anything and is just trying to discredit everything dogpack has said even though majority of it was correct. Mr Beast still defended Chris whilst knowing he was a pedophile, still hired an RsO, still kept Jake Weddle in solitary confinement with sleep deprivation and still participated in crypto schemes. Soggy Cereal made this video out of spite and hell its possible that he got paid to make this video, especially given how mr beast deleted his comment and how soggy changed the video title, along with the beef he's had with dogpack for a while
@Thekatbo he helped people yk. Like those things weren't scripted. And no one can make challenges engaging to the audience without using some sort of scripts. So beast is kinda in the good.
And what about mrbeast crypto coin scandal and leaked discord messages that he is actively deleting even coffeezzila talked about that and allegedly street racing his friend On January 21, 2018, at around 2:30am, MrBeast had been pulled over by police along with two other drivers on a North Carolina highway after reportedly driving at 122 mph, per the Tarboro Police Department.
Two vehicles were racing each other when MrBeast was 19 at the time, was stopped, according to reports. He was arrested and taken into custody, facing charges of speeding in a 70 mph zone, reckless driving, and engaging in a speed competition. He was held on a $100,000 bond. Supposedly he was driving a BMW i8 according to the fans that saw on a mrbeast deleted video.
@@PingPongPursuithe literally said he wasn’t knowledgeable enough so you should watch coffeezilla’s video on it. Although he didn’t discuss it, he did tell people that it was an issue, and where you could learn more about it. I honestly prefer people to not talk about topics when they don’t know much about them…
oml i just watched that short bro, nah its so obvious that beast is paying off these creators now lol, there's no way that he just randomly contacts them and asks them if they've seen the video with them suddenly agreeing with him. Also him commenting (now deleted) on this video and soggy changing the title makes it so much more obvious
Honestly I never liked Dogpack, he was just not sympathetic to me, but this is crazy... I kinda expected some lies, but this is next level. Also that Weddle dude always seemed stupid to me... if you voluntarily do something FOR MONEY, and you can literally quit any time you want, it is ON YOU... All that being said, I don't think I will ever watch mr Beast again, because throughout the entire drama there are a lot of serious accusations that I still believe to be true, and also I don't even enjoy his over edited style which is designed to make kids addicted to the stupid content...
Its also possible that mr beast paid you to do this. I mean ye already has a bad image but you can discredit dogpack404. I guess everything now is just for the engagement.
I was always suspicious of dogpack. He came out of nowhere and made allegations about Mebeast. Sure I semi believed but I knew something like this would happen. Still, I don’t care about MrBeast because he does good things for attention not intentionally
23:52 I love how he says multiple cometary channels commented on it but the only thing that shows up is more Pegasus videos, just shows how much he milked it
truth is i just hate mr beast. I am disappointed that when finally some large scale critisism and investigation is happening, it's from a loser like dogpack.
@@grekandrew8995 I think his content is garbage, his personality is annoying, and all the "good" and "charity" he does is just performative nonsense that doesn't change anything on a greater scale. And part of it is just seeing his stupid videos everywhere is annoying, and I know it's petty but I think I can be petty once in a while.
Before there was any video proofing other s*** like that and fingerprints testimonies was all we had if it's good enough for the legal system it's good enough for me
Hiring a nonce because you don't do background checks is not just a "mistake". It's negligence to the safety of your employees and the children that make up his audience. Wildly fucking stupid take from you to excuse his negligence as a mistake.
@GamerGarmer and we're back full circle to excusing his criminal negligence of not safeguarding staff and public. Think we'll end the convo here. Enjoy your day, pal.
@@Scrog90 that’s why the employee was fired before anything happened 😂 + I haven’t seen any children go for his staff instead of him lmao, and back then Mr beasts channel wasn’t for kids anyways
@GamerGarmer companies working with children are required to perform background checks on staff. His audience are almost exclusively children, who interact with his staff in person.
@@Scrog90 this is what I found , the law only works for 4 industries, healthcare , education, finance industry and government roles , try next time buddy 😂
@GamerGarmer "employers need to comply with all North Carolina background checks", and it's same in California. "Background checks are required by law in most US states". Took 2 seconds.
@GamerGarmer Hilarious that you think there's no laws on background checks and you can just hire a nonce and claim you didn't mean to and it's not your fault 🤣
@@GamerGarmer Do you think people shouldn't be held accountable for breaking the law because they didn't mean to? Or because they're 19? Or because they're famous? Law should be applied equally to all society imo...
Not sure about where he operates his business, but most places in USA it's a legal requirement to perform background checks. It's not a mistake, it's a crime and should be a crime. Being 19 doesn't change anything. It's criminal negligence.
He didn't excuse it, all he did was bring context as to how it happened which clarified it wasn't maliciously done, but just negligence from a teenager.
thats still not even 50 % of all the allegations that are actually proven REAL. You can clearly see in the comments section, that this is a hype cope for bigger youtubers and their followers. Jimmy still deletes comments.
@@GregorioStyreco yeah that's the point EVERYONE could be lying, even this guy. Jimmy's a bad guy, we need to expose the others too, just like Jimmy just because you did a good thing does not exempt you from being bad.
I like how Soggy didn't disclose you were paid by beast team in this video.
For people unaware since each my replies keeps getting removed, Soggy was on a livestream on chud logics channel in which he amittes that he was paid by beast team to fly out for interviews. This is something he should have been open about in this video yet he lied.
@@stephaniegiacco7524 He admitted to being paid by beast team on chud logics stream to be flown out to tgrm for interviews. He lied and said he paid his own plane ticket.
@@stephaniegiacco7524 on chud logic stream he admitted to being paid to be flown out by beast team. he never once disclosed information once in this video.
He didn’t say everything was a lie, but most things were. You can see what was a lie and what was not in the instances where he has the board with the papers in the back
This guy being a wanna be investigator, when all the people you interview will probably just side with their boss Mr beast , this is just pure B.S to begin , i guess you got paid by them to also do this
If soggy is a wanna be investigator then what does that make of dogpack? He is also a wanna be investigator lol his only source is unreliable anonymous people 😂😂
Yeah yeah, sure Dogpack is unreliable or even malicious but that sht does not matter... You can attack him all you want everyone doesn't care about that, you lost the sauce bro, all I know is that there's legit facts that Mr Beast is also a piece of sht maybe even worse.
@@sb18wlc the one of two is the coffeezila crypto stuff and the other one is the illegal gambling which only occurred once at his immaturity , dogpack made so many allegations he had to delete an entire video, 1/3 of it because of his own blunder and no one exposing it lmao ,there’s just too many nitpicks ,no sane person is dumb enough to respond to nitpicks
Yeah 2 out of how many hand picked issues to debunk, funny how this doesn't cover the actually shitty stuff. The fact that there's still 2 that are true makes this even more funny.
I’m sorry Mr Beast is not a good company. They are getting sued for unsafe practises on their Amazon show. They only made payment to a non-profit charity who did all the operations to restore eyesight 2 years later after public pressure. They sell moldy lunchables. Also hiring a sex offender is just appalling considering the target audience is children. These are the facts. Jimmy won’t own up to any of it which is even worse.
People hating on MrBeast just because he's a rich straight white man. That's all there is to it. Kai Cenat's cameraman also got exposed as a PDF this year but no one hated on Kai Cenat because he's a rich black man.
Dawson may not be a good person, but god is mr beast far from a saint. Also Soggy you're not in the right here either, in fact it just seems like you're just obsessed in destroying dogpack's reputation here, rather than exposing "the truth". In fact this video just makes it seem like you're trying to defend mr beast, which you indirectly are
@@Queef_Storm reread the comment before you actually talk mate. Mr beast is still in the wrong here, and Dawson helped in exposing many of the shady things that he did. I said that Dawson may be a bad person, but that doesn't mean that soggy should be defending Mr beast either. There's no personal attacks here, soggy just seems so focussed on dogpack's downfall rather than exposing the actual truth about mr beast
He says that he is not defending. The reason why he targets dockpack is because of dockpack lies ruined some people mentality. And random people get harassed because dockpack convincing them that all the videos are scripted. Ofc he wants to expose his lies
just say you don't want to admit you let yourself be fooled but can't deny the evidence either so you're only option other than owning up to your mistakes it to resort to personal attacks
Sure, many of the things DogPack talked about are false allegations. However, you don't realy show yourself as a credible source either.
Your war crime part was garbage. Please, if you are uninformed, don't talk about it or don't act high and mighty, while being even worse than DogPack.
First off all, there wasn't any gotcha moment about how the added definition of sleep depravation (13:46) disproves what they are talking about. Yes, it isn't a WAR crime, since he wasn't at war with Jimmy. Neither was Weddle a detainee. Neither is it torute, since it wasn't about obtaining information, punishing him or intimidation. "Awesome! That absolves MrBeast from any wrong doing." You completely ignore why sleep depravation is considered a war crime though and this is the more important part than semantics.
Yes, Weddle made the decision himself. He alluded to it. If you would have shown context (if you even watched DogPack's video) you would know why this isn't neccessarily any better. Money. Especially if you are in debt, which is also mentally and physically draining, and someone dangles an easy solution over your head, you are more likely to push yourself more than your body and mind can actually handle. Especially for something as bad as sleep depravation, just throwing money at a victim shouldn't be considered a fair solution... Also Weddle was working for MrBeast, which pressures him even further, since the video cost ressources and him not delivering may lessen his chances of being in another video.
There is also another big question: How informed was Weddle about the consequences of sleep depravation? Was it written in a contract he signed? Was he properly instructed prior to starting the challenge? If not, that makes it far, far worse. I can guarantee you that most people don't know that sleep depravation is so mentally and physically damaging that it*s considered a war crime. Most people may think about how they stayed awake for 30 hours, either because they wanted to play games, watch a series or for some reason just couldn't sleep but it was only exhausting, so they won't consider how damaging 4 days or so without sleep can be, let alone 30 days...
There was a british TV series, Shattered. The contestants knew what they were getting themselves into, they were allowed to take naps ever so often and they had daily sessions with a psychiatrist and a doctor. They also had to face deranged challenges. The show was criticised for it's unethical behavior, received multiple complaints from the general public and was criticised by healthcare professionals. And MrBeast is supposed to make a better job? A rich and narcissitsic baffoon and his goon gang? Sure...
Sleep depravation, especially for the sake of entertainment is unethical. If he wants to make a video about it, Jimmy should do it himself, since there aren't any looming pressures over his head.
@@GermanGlitchhunter I don't think Soggy is saying that Jake's problems aren't as bad as war, it seems more like Soggy just thinks Jake was being disingenuous; as he said, there are wars going on right now and Soggy seems to think it's insensitive to bring up war crimes right now, consensus also equated it to war crimes, so that's probably why he focused on it so much, because he has the viewers in mind. I think it was a missed opportunity for Soggy to examine it from a legal standpoint. Soggy also seems to be refusing to give Jake the benefit of the doubt because of his misrepresentation of the Delaware situation; he seems convinced that Jake is just a dogpack goon or something, other than that I think Soggy handled the majority of the other claims well, it's just not flawless and he also didn't criticize MrBeast as much as he promised, all he did was admit that 1 lottery was illegal. But I think that's just because in reality Soggy wanted to make a video about debunking DogPack and only included MrBeast so as not to look like he was catering, after all everything is polarizing and viewers are less likely to listen to you if you don't affirm their beliefs.
Anyway, ignorance is no excuse; I define MrBeast's behavior as negligent rather than malicious, because when you said he lured Jake with cash, I got the connotation that you meant he intentionally lured Jake into a trap just to take advantage of someone financially beneath him to assert his wealthy status over him or something. And I'm pretty sure the challenge was not to go 30 days without sleep, it was to be isolated for 30 days, Soggy calls it an isolation challenge, ( 1:12:18 ) that's why Dustin said it was similar to another isolation challenge they had: ( 1:12:54 ). If what Dustin says is true, and they are very similar, then the reason they didn't turn off the lights is because they didn't want him to have any sense of time, not to prevent him from sleeping; in the game Dustin references, the contestants found ways to overcome the problem of constant light by using blankets or other ways to cover their eyes while sleeping. Given that Dustin said that the problems Jake faced were never a problem before or after Jake, this kind of implies that Mr. Beast likely expected Jake to find a way to compensate for the light by using basic solutions like a blanket or something to allow him to get some sleep like the others, after all, Jake was an employee, which means he'd have an advantage most contestants don't have, which is that he likely has seen other people's methods for succeeding in that same challenge.
And if it means anything, I've had a copy of MrBeast's leaked PDF document for months now that he sends to his employees; it talks about whenever employees make mistakes or cost him money, and his perspective on it. Verbatim: "Mistakes are okay! Genuinely they are and I expect you to make a lot. That’s perfectly fine. Every veteran here has cost me a million dollars at one point or another, and you can go ask them yourself if I ever held it over their heads. The reason i’m okay with fuck ups is because I know that’s how you learn." and "I just beg you that you learn from every mistake and try not to repeat it, that’s when it gets annoying. I’ve never ever ever once fired someone on the spot for messing up, you have nothing to be afraid of. Own shit so we can address how to fix it and then move on." I'm not sure if he really upholds this belief or not, but the statement is there, and it probably helps MrBeast if he wants to make a case that he's notified employees that they don't need to worry about the consequences of making mistakes unless it's repeated or you're not learning from them.
@@Queef_Storm You know what's truly lmao? I saw that you linked you reddit and now it's clear why you made your ... joke... You can't handle the criticism I directed at Soggy...
@@Captain_Cosmic. Well, maybe my wording was a little bit off since I rewrote the comment multiple times. I can't say wether or not DogPack or Soggy is worse. Soggy just showed me that he isn't trustworthy.
If he wants to refute the war crime topic, he should do so properly. Not through semantics. Not through talking about willingly participating in "torture" (since that doesn't make "torture" all of a sudden any better).... Or the funniest thing in the world anyone can do: Talk about actual wars... "Right, I punched you in the face but people die in wars or are in actual slaver, so whats the issue, people have it worse, don't be a beta."
Also he focuses a lot on the "joke" part. Where is the rebuttle? Weddel was isolated, so he couldn't google it himself and again, since people don't know the harm associated with prolonged sleep depravation, he just simply chugged it off as a joke but afterwards learned that it's so bad it's considered a war crime, well, in war.
Weddle himself also talked about the power dynamik point. Why not talk about it here. How money, work relationship and social pressure may have pressured him into staying longer or even accepting the challenge.
Yeah, it most likely wasn't malicious and yes, the goon gang definetely didn't had much foresight in what they are doing. They most likely didn't know themselves how bad sleep depravation can be. Especially Jimmy, who most likely though about the clicks, attention and money he can gain probably more often then doesn't barely thinks about consequences. Ignorance doesn't protect you from commiting "crimes" though.
Weddle definetly is a person that can't realy say no but that doesn't make it any better.
One point I sadly forgot to include is ethics. There are reasons why certain areas forbid financial incentives for certain acts, which is due to ethics. For instance organ donation, or an example I recently saw, egg extraction for science. Those are mediacl intrusions, which have short and long term risks. Thats also why extreme mental and physical challenges are highly questionable. There is also the problem that mostly poor people would be victims of such exploitative incentives. Most organ donations for instance would come from poor people. Similarily most people willing to compete in such challenges will also be poor people.
Nah, DogPack is definitely still worse, DogPack deliberately abused connections he had with people to get back at MrBeast LLC and falsely accused multiple people, Soggy was at most pedantic about claims, but he wouldn't tangibly be able to do that if they just decided on being honest first time around. But that aside, you do make quite the point that there's an undeniable power dynamic that incentivizes employees to impress MrBeast. That said, if Jake Weddle just kept giving the green light to everything and every sign he gave showed he was willing to go through with it, it's kind of hard for me to imagine that it was done maliciously rather than it being a simple miscommunication issue.
And as you said, most people overlook the effects of sleep deprivation, so if Jimmy is nothing but a "buffoon" with some "goon gang" then you're spelling an easy gap in their foresight just as much as Weddle; considering he was a part of this gang, he would know as much as they did. This just seems like a guy who's negligent meeting a guy who doesn't know how to say no.
But maybe it was maliciously done? Who knows? None of us were there. All I can afford you is that you could be right; that's as far as we'll progress with this from our limited positions.
@@Queef_Storm If you have nothing of value to add, why even bother writing? If you haven*t even read the comment, why even bother writing?
Since you are such a smooth brain you surely noticed the wording "you don't realy show yourself as a credible source either". This is not me defending DogPack, this is me criticising this video and Soggy Cereal of how hypocritical he is.
@@Queef_Storm mate stop going trough these comments and defending mr beast in each one of these. If ur not even going to read actual well written criticism then stfu
@@randomised7562 yeah those were 2 of the 3 points he was only guilty of dude lmao you’re the one who’s gullible dude and using the dumbest excuse to hate on him since you clearly didn’t watch the video. Most of the things he was accused of were false He literally gave you all the evidence dude you’re the one who’s just gullible and using any excuse to hate lol. He didn’t dismiss them at all dude lmao you didn’t even watch the video lol Jimmy didn’t even know that Jake was a criminal so you’re wrong once more Yeah better late than never dude And he didn’t know dude do you have any evidence of that? Exactly you DON’T Do you think Jimmy even know that this was shadman’s art? Or that he knew that shadman drew that kind of stuff? Also you seem to forget that Jimmy was a minor at the time. Yeah again he only did it ONCE and that one time he did it, he wasn’t even aware that it was an illegal lottery hence why he didn’t do it again. What market manipulation? What schemes? Also you’re talking to a guy who’s participated in a Mrbeast video (it’s an upcoming one) and I know the truth of what happens so I can confidently say you’re wrong
@@macias7125 if those are your only two points then you're literally just a gullible kid, and its so obvious too. I have watched the video and soggy cereal barely provides any debunking evidence, and for the points such as the delaware and jake weddle situation he just dismisses them as, "oh but jake the viking is a bad person therefore its false" Also Mrbeast only got rid of chris once there was overwhelming evidence. This is the same guy who was literally defending chris and letting him stay on his channel, whilst being actively aware of him being a pedophile, want more proof? He literally stares at the shadman art (who is an artist that creates sexaulised content of minors) that Chris bought and had put up on a wall. Mr Beast still abused Jake Weddle and still did put him through solitary confinement which is illegal, but once again Soggy Cereal just dismisses it and doesn't actually disprove it Then there's also the shady crypo stuff that Mrbeast has gotten himself into which is further covered by Coffeezilla, and its also been confirmed that Mrbeast has participated in market manipulation as well as pump and dump schemes which are literal scams.
@@Agastya_Tyagi I personally think he's weird and has horribly scummy marketing as well as ruined YouTube for the most part. But I think he was gonna but couldn't because more stuff just kept coming and coming. I'd be overwhelmed to honestly. Still he probably purposely ignored them and dropped a trashy ass lunchables copy like smh. Honestly we are in the end game now
@@randomised7562 no dude the only gullible kid here is you lmao did you not watch the video? He’s only guilty of 3 1. The illegal lotteries were only done ONCE and it was because Jimmy most likely didn’t know it was an illegal lottery 2. He already got rid of Kris Tyson
@@macias7125 no, he isn't at all, there's still hard evidence of Mr Beast being a scumbag, including him defending chris tyson, the hired RsOs, etc. You're just being a gullible kid
@@Nick117YT no, majority of the allegations are still true. Soggy is just obsessed with destroying dogpack's reputation, and yeah I'll agree that dawson isn't a good person himself. Obviously you and OP are a bunch of gullible kids on youtube, but you need to understand that Mr beast is quite literally an awful person, has hired RSOs which there is still hard evidence of, has defended Chris Tyson who is a pedophile, has participated in market manipulation, etc. Nobody here is in the right, and soggy cereal is literally just being a spiteful idiot right now
There’s a lot to unpack here. Well done for not dismissing the Mr. Beast allegations and for exposing how Dogwack/Dawson is a sociopath, ruining multiple lives in the process!”
dam them lying about that anime plot is wild that anime actually sounds like a good plot and at 34:26 bruh he could ahve made the thumb nail i dunno girls smiling with pink t-shirts on and the pink ribbon symbolizing cancer awareness moth and have the title being "paying for breast cancer surgery" or something like that there no need to add the boob thing just gross and wierd its clear what he was doing
Real talk man id change the title and stuff to like "the truth about dogpack" or something because everyones recommended is being filled with mr beast and are just ignoring it
WOW, would ya LOOK at that, ANOTHER Flimsy, Cheaply Edited and Dumb D*bunking video. Yeah, keep kissing your lovers MrBeast and Stucky, glizzy glazer 💀
@@xooF1sh he never lied, he always said the allegations were alleged. all the times he accused jimmy he backed it up with video evidence and former employee testimonials. he has nothing to gain from lying, getting millions of views and zero $ out of it is proof to this authenticity. Go and watch all the vids and tell me where he lied
ok dogpack is not a saint but that doesn't make his research any less valid , if you are not 12 everyone can see through the scammy nature of beast practices.
Pretty weak video. Same arguments, interviews, claims, being pedantic, is the hole CGI? No its not and yes it is. You mostly criticise his wording and presentation, that dumb viewers will make assumptions, saying "these wheels on the bus are CGI" dumb viewer will think THERE IS NO BUS. Also you make the argument every time that legal means moral. But then accidentally later say "but this is still scummy" ruining your own implications earlier. Very weak video, but so was DogPacks videos.
Dogpack is literally just a salty ex-employee that wanted to get revenge on Mr. Beast for firing him.
Dogpack took advantage of the Kris Tyson drama and made a hate video on Mr. Beast.
The trans community was upset with Mr. Beast because he fired Kris Tyson. They wanted to spite him so when they saw that there was a hate video on Mr. Beast they liked the video and made it popular. That's how Dogpack got popular.
I'm glad Mr. Beast never gave attention to Dogpack. This video by Soggy Cereal is great. It shows that Dogpack's allegations were false.
Dogpack is a loser. He tried to ruin Mr. Beast's reputation with false allegations. F Dogpack and F anyone that supports Dogpack.
I can't believe that everyone brushes past the fact that dogpack downloaded what he thought to be CP, tried to reverse google search it to find where the alleged CP came from, and then decided that it was legitimate (from his perspective at the time) so that he could then put it in a thumbnail tester to optimize the algorithm and then spread it to 1.5million people. Say what you will about kris, but sharing that file privately was at least 1.5million times less than what dumb4ss dogpack over here managed to do... They even had to censor in post because the original video accidently showed it completely uncensored for 3 seconds....
If Delaware is a hoax, why did Mr beast then retroactively deleted all scenes he is in. Jake literally said Delaware is his sister husband so yeah why would he make himself look weird
The main thing that caught my eye while watching soggy's video is how quick he is to brush off jake's situation, while the war crime claim was bogus(but frankly I was surprised anyone took it seriously), he also tried to imply that the fact jake weddle was payed and "wasn't a detainee" made it...moral?
The Jake was payed is specifically why the argument why could leave anytime" doesn't hold any water, its well known that humans will push themselves to the limits, even do immoral actions if desperate for money, in Jake's case he pushed himself to the point of borderline PTSD, and frankly who wouldn't? would anyone not push themselves to the point of trauma if offered so much money? what Jake went through is similar to coercion, and its all on mrbeast and his crew for having inhumane conditions there. People keep blaming Jake, saying he "made money" or "could leave anytime", but if I hypothetically could give you enough money to buy a mortgage, but you had to cut your arm for it, would that be ok or moral for me to do? of course not, so I don't get why people unironically follow the same train of logic in the weddle situation.
Actual reality tv shows are heavily moderated for this very reason, because without moderation people would unironically kill themselves for the cash prize, and the fact mrbeast had no moderation is the thing that was unethical and immoral, and I am tired of people downplaying it as anything else but a insanely inhumane and negligent act.
edit:ive rewatched the 2nd dogpack video and now the entire war crimes thing soggy pointed out is a huge false narrative, the literal next line jake says is "they don't even do that to prisoners" after the war crime comment, its not him saying "they did war crimes on me!!!" its to put it into perspective just how messed up what they did is, that not even war criminals and terrorists are treated as badly as him.
Alongside this, the whole defense soggy made for jimmy's delaware fiasco is downright discusting and makes it very hard to think of his video as unbiased due to it, his defense was basically "oh but jimmy was a but 19 year old boy who did a immature oopsie :c, besides delaware is already fired so who cares", which is absolutely discusting, soggy...this is a situation of mrbeast hiring a DUCKING PEDOPHILE to work for his COMPANY WHICH HAS A CHILD AUDIENCE, the fact he even had the quts to defend this like he did either shows bias or the fact he geniunely thinks pedophilia is not a big deal, either way not a good look.
(Credit to u/tey_ull on Reddit for this comment. If you don't like what he said then don't attack me lol)
I don't see the problem with the whole Delaware thing. He was just pointing out that, no, Mr Beast did not in fact know he hired a pedophile. He made a mistake which was not doing a background check, and then when he learned about it, he fired the guy. That seems like something you can forgive and forget to me.
That first point is such a piss poor argument it's insane. Having someone try to complete a challenge is not the same as cutting off their arm, that's such an obvious logical fallacy it's honestly pathetic to even bring up. It's a CHALLENGE, it's supposed to be difficult to complete. If someone gets paid if they break a world record, and then they break their leg trying or overwork themselves trying, that's on them. You don't need to be a slave to money to the point where you will die for it, you REALLY don't. You can just work a normal job man, it isn't that hard. Such a braindead take from the redditor.
42:52 doobus goobus is more of defending jimmy in his video shown on screen as it is from a year prior to any of this when the biggest mr beast drama was twitter calling his the devil following his vid where he helped a buncha people with hearing loss or partal blindness or something along those lines.
3:30 Jake the Viking admitted that Jimmy knew of his brother-in-law's PDF file record before the hiring process. That he had pleaded guilty of saving sexual interactions with a minor ages 1-11 years of age when he was in hia 20s.
I cant believe how many of these things I noticed yet still chose to believe dogpack because I trusted him. Still though, I wish you had adressed the faked hospital allegations as well as the weird ass picture hanging in mrbeasts room... It just goes to show that neither side is 100% right and there is always nuance to any situation
@@BasherBeans All if them have been compensate by mr beast the eye surgery thing If they didnt make the video about it they would never have given them the money. Bruh like It have to become something first for them to react. So far they dodge all accountability. Sure dogpack is a sly guy but the mr cooperate are exploitative and with recent video of coffeezilla he is so inoccent
I don't know who should they interview but 100% not the people mr beast pay💀
@@BasherBeans They still working for mr beast. so how sure they are telling the truth I didn't say that dogpack is right but how can u trust them either about dogpack
So what? Are they just gonna ask people who weren't related to Mrbeast nor Dogpack404? They where talking to the people who were part of the firing of Dogpack404.
damn, thats whats up. yea i dont think mr beast has ill intentions, but some of the things make you stop and think like the crypto and chris tyson and not explaining nuances like the lightning on the raft or why staff were in challenges. crazy good deep dive video tho
Why did you left out the fact that Delaware is Jake the Viking's brother in law? Jake the Viking lying about his brother in law makes no sense, and your argument about Jake the Viking not being trustworthy because Jake Weddle said that he doesn't like him is a poor argument.
@Daymare19 DogPack404 is also in the wrong, don't get me wrong, but with MrBeast's popularity, coupled with DogPack being exposed, people will disregard his actual wrongdoing and start saying he was "innocent" all along when he clearly isn't
I hope all the drama slop channels that ate right out of dogpack's palm for months will also chew on this and spit out some corrections that their fans need to hear because they always took his word as if he was some Messiah meanwhile Dawson was just disgruntled employee-core since Day 1 and everybody should've noticed from the way he went about his business
great quote from, DinosaurDUDE1 : to anyone here who is confused, as someone who studies history, do not choose any side. You go on a side as far as you agree with the interpretation. some allegations are more likely to be true than others, accept those, but don't trust all of them. accept that mrbeast has done charity and value that, but do not think he is a perfectly good person. there is no in the middle, there is no on one side, and there is no queen of england. you just have to be at a reasonable point between likely, unlikely and false.
Such a good video, thanks. Ive been sh**ing on the dogpack vids since they came out, clearly reeked of deception or a lack of credibility at best and everyone seemed to believe them
Probably his own money. Just look at the views on these videos. Hundreds of thousands and millions of views. It will not be a loss at all since this video will most definitely get a few millions views and he'll get more money. I think you just discovered that YouTube is a job to some people
Terrible, misleading, clearly biased video.
First off, let's just be clear about this: This is essentially the official Mr. Beast response. The fact that this person has all of this access to the Mr. Beast team and these secret recordings from the company shows that they signed off on this. Most likely, the legal team advised the Mr. Beast company not to post a large public response but did accept a surrogate, a seemingly unbiased third party who could post a response. This doesn't discredit the video, but it is already deceptive to not elaborate on how this contact was made and if he was or was not being compensated for this labor.
The video itself makes an effort to make a very emotional and dramatic nitpick of Dogpack's video while being aggressively uncharitable and misleading at several points. Let me list off a few:
1) Delaware. Jake, in the video, clearly spoke about the story of Delaware as a watercooler rumor. The substance of the story was not the specifics. It wasn't about how he was hired or where he came from. It wasn't about background checks. The bottom line is that within the workplace, people knew about his history and for some reason he still worked there. In a professional, responsible setting, he would have been fired for this child-adjacent job. It reflects on a workplace culture that doesn't take this seriously.
2) The "war crime" joke. Having the person come on and defend his boss and subtly blame Jake Weddle for how the video went down does nothing to mitigate the actual point. It's highly suspect that you attempt to paint Jake's retelling of the story as deceptive when he's clearly speaking off the cuff and even laughs when retelling the joke. There was clearly humor in it, but it doesn't matter! The point was that THEY KEPT A GUY IN A ROOM AND DIDN'T LET HIM HAVE ANY TIME WITH THE LIGHTS OFF. It does not matter if he was technically able to leave. They dangled a lifechanging amount of money in his face and forced him to be subjected to actual torture to get it. It's scummy, unethical, and downright sociopathic. I don't care about any excuses brought in post-hoc by this so-called friend. I don't care if Jake's mental health wasn't great beforehand. The point is that the video was exploitatative and cruel.
3) Illegal lotteries. This is a case of deceptive editing on Soggy's part. I went and rewatched Dogpack's video and HE ACKNOWLEDGED SOME OF THE STREAMS HAVE DISCLAIMERS. He was pointing out these random moments in the streams where they would sporadically announce informal stretches of time where you MUST purchase something and and item would be bundled WITH YOUR PURCHASE. That's an illegal lottery! It doesn't matter if he occasionally mentions no purchase necessary or if it's in the description; you can't do that!
4) He did not make any false CP allegations. You watched the video. You can have your interpretation of how someone would reasonably respond to the material posted. You made sure to gloss over a bunch of other weird stuff that was posted and many other things that could reasonably considered to be red flags.
5) Oh, wow, Mr. Beast joined Tony's Open Chain... back in September. AFTER Dogpack's video came out!? AFTER THE CONTROVERSY!?! No but it's fine, they've been "in talks" for a long time. We should have known. I wonder how Dogpack could have google searched something that happened in the future. LOL I'd go on the Wayback machine and see what the website said in the interim time, but this rebuttal is such a lie it's wild and I'm not going to bother. With the Feastables vs Hersheys, this is inane. He's comparing two bars. Soggy here holds two bars in his hands. At a glance, you can tell that these are competing products with comparable sizes. Trying to deceptively use "serving sizes", which are arbitrarily set by the producer is stupid. Dawson made it very clear he was comparing two bars and the bars you can literally see in your hands are not massively different in size. The fact is that the Mr. Beast bar contains more sugar. Furthermore, if you break it down by grams, Mr. Beast is only marginally better on sugar and it's actually worse on calories. The fact is, Feastables is ultra processed garbage that is no better than Hershey's and its competing size is worse for you.
6) Dawson potentially having a personal problem with Locoya doesn't disprove any sexual harrassment claims whatsoever. Debunk the claim, not the messenger. I don't care if he's a disgruntled former employee.
I just wasted 20 minutes of my life typing this. Time for an unnecessary personal attack: Soggy's voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
@@Paladont Grams aren't a measure of size; they're a measure of mass. You can use grams to analyze the composition of the bar. Sure, you can cherrypick and point out that the Feastables bar is slightly lower in sugar, but it's denser in calories (making it more fattening per gram). However, people don't take out a scale and weigh their food. The feastables team decided that a bar was two servings, which suggests that the average person buys a Feastables bar and eats half of it and saves the rest for later. I find this unlikely. What's more likely is people eat the full bar. That's a more typical experience with candy bars from my observation, and it's reflected in the similarly sized Hershey's bar being a single serving. That one serving is larger than a serving of Feastables, but it's still comparable to the two servings of Feastables. Also, the Feastables bar is listed as "King Size" on its website, but this is meaningless. In store, the Feastables 'King Size' bar is directly competing with the Hershey's bar's normal size and DOES NOT list King Size on its packaging or on any major retailer's store listings. The smaller size bar is often packaged as smaller bars in bigger packs. Again, holding the two competing bars, I don't see any reason why a consumer would eat them any differently.
Altogether, the regular consumer might pick a Feastables bar over a Hersheys bar and eat it expecting that they made a good health decision, but this was just misleading marketing.
Also, Soggy lied about the new formula having less sugar. It went from 13g to 15g for the same size. They also added more ingredients and lower quality ingredients, making it more like Hershey's when they reformulated it.
@@arielperez3613 "Hey if you sit in a room with the lights on I'll give you more money than most people make in a year"
If that's torture, life is torture. Jake was probably going through drug withdrawals and that's why a very normal and easy challenge had him feeling horrible within 11 days.
@@Paladontjust because he got paid doesn’t mean it’s ok. That’s literally exploiting people’s desperation for entertainment. If you don’t see how this is wrong then you have problems
1) It's really simple and you're just not getting he point. The point that HAS NOT BEEN REFUTED is that a REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER worked for the company and people KNEW ABOUT IT AND HE WASN'T FIRED.
2) Yes, people will often subject themselves to horrific conditions if they're in need of lifechanging money. When you're actually dealing with it, it's much different. Sleep deprivation is considered torture for a reason. You didn't prove anything by asking people a hypothetical.
5) I did watch the video. You didn't read my post. Try reading it again and see what I said about "per gram".
Soggy measured them per Gram like 10 seconds after he mentioned serving sizes and per gram measurements objectively proved dogpack was lying you didn't even watch the video
1) people believed it, so dismissing it as 'watercooler rumor's is dumb.
2) it wasn't a war crime, nor did people take it as a joke. This was seen all over the internet. Nor was it a crime, nor was it even bad. To prove this, if I offered people 100k to go through what Jake did, the vast majority of people would agree and be happy with their decision.
Not even reading the rest if your first 2 are that bad
After 4 months jimmy has finally hired his $1,000,000 lawyer 🔥
All jokes aside tho this was actually a surpsingly good defense for jimmy and his company while not denying the bad actions that they actually did commit
How is Mr. Beast able to see who subscribed to him in order to do the Samsung giveaway? Is that something you can see in YouTube studios? I think PewDiePie is right here. It is a scam when people do that. And even if Mr. Beast could see subscribers how would he reach out? YouTube removed DM's many years ago.
@@cyinic yeah and Mr. Beast should have clarified that when promoting it. So it is still a subscribe bait. If he clarifies what people need to do then people might not want to subscribe and find it too complicated to do. People are lazy whereas a quick press on subscribe is easy but then they aren't fully entering his competition as they thought they would.
@@Felix-kt4xv they can comment on one of their videos or reach out to them with a social media connected to their account, if they don't have any videos or connected accounts I'm not sure if/how they would reach out
This entire video is a joke 17:27 THIS WAS THE YOUTUBE UI 3 mounths ago you know when dogpack404 made the video. The question is how can you be so naive about this lmao??? 1:24:27 a mistake huh???
@@Extreme-sj6fx no mr beast did run an illegal lottery this guy just left it untill the end just even though dogpack404 covered it first so the illegal lottery did happen and sloppy is either lying or incompetant to defend a crypto scammer.
@@NighTMare-gv8gz im saying if you go on the way back machine and take a screenshot of how the ui looked, when the video originally came out it wouldn’t match up with dogpacks video. and thats besides the point, why trip up so hard on one single thing? dogpack has proven that he continues to lie and throw other people under the bus because he was disgruntled that he was fired the way he was. it’s obvious that he was targeting certain people and ignoring facts in order to push a narrative. thats the fucking issue dude
Use the way back machine to any video on youtube 3 mounths ago and you would see the UI is the exactly what dogpack404 used when created the video he didn't fake anything.
it looks like you're heavily biased contra-dogpack404 your voice kinda sounds emotional. scumbag debunks scumbag debunks scumbag, where will the cycle end?
This is annoying asf, when I said we need both sides, ppl be trying to crucified and say I'm a child who was manipulated, I can't wait to see the hypocrites switch sides, because that's all they do, ppl say they hate Mr beast because they never like him, let's see if he's guilt or innocent, innocent until proven guilty ppl
Mr Beast has spent his entire career helping people, he benefited from it. Dogpack has spent his entire career on revenge and manipulation, he benefited from it. They are both bad, but they are no where near the same.
Exactly. People are taking this video and saying “yep I knew Jimmy was innocent” when he’s isn’t. It just means that both dogpack and MrBeast aren’t good
MrBeast definitely needs to be looked into a bit more, but DogPack is on a whole different level. Bro literally tried ruining the lives of other people (the subscriber who won a million dollars, 58, Mack and others) for his own personal gain.
Damn people have a lot of time huh . This drama is WAY TOO LONG hope people move on . Did he X someone if not some Companies did worse than what he did and no one care....
Bruh, you admitted on a discord call that you were flown out by mr beast to have these conversations with the employees and mr beast signed off on this. Wtf dude. At least be transparent.
Soggy cereal... More like soggy brain. Mr.beast work practices are the topic of conversation not a cross examination of Dawson. It cant be a coincidence that him,rosana pansino, coffeezilla, and others brought serious allegations to light about beast crew and how they operate. And looking back on your previous videos you seem like kind of.. a boob, whos audience is children that still think mr.beast is "super cool money guy". But us 30-40 yr old adults are skeptical of ALL you youtubers. Your video was poorly made and talking in that "whiny" voice when quoting others words make you look childish and condescending. It makes me not want to take your video seriously. At least dawson presented his case with conviction and civility. Regardless of what was or wasent true he made one hell of a case and show. where you seem to just...not do that...
Not at all. Politicians do it all the time. And in a debate having a strong, structured argument is the best way to win favor(even if the opposition is essentially lying/wrong.) but regardless multiple youtubers besides dogpack are making cases. Who all have had strong cases and presented them quite well. If soggy cereal makes another video on another creator I just hope he understands where I'm coming from concerning these exposés and takes a more mature approach.@@romancatholicgameing
At 18:00, that is sadly true. Youtube has been removing the likes on some people's clients, saying that it may be caused by extensions (cough cough, ad blockers).
Will not lie at first I thought this video was dumb and clicked off but came bad and decided to watch it again and hate myself for being closed minded when I shouldn't have and am sorry for it good video for sure and changed my opinion
Don’t believe anyone. DogPack has done bad. MrBeast has done bad. Soggy has a bias towards MrBeast and someone in the Beast company purposely helped Soggy (via current employee interviews and other info despite the employees having NDAs and not being willing to talk to Coffeezilla) to make this video. No one here is good or innocent.
Personally I don't find the stuff about Weddle incriminating at all it seemed like a joke in his delivery. Sure dogpacks editing might have made it seemed not the case but I think thats just how weddle talks. And ya he did the fake ai voice at the beginning of his video and then clarified it. He wants retention obviously. He's trying to make a living. Its not on him if people click out before hearing the disclaimer.
I said this and i will say it again jakes word means shit nothing more than shit
He silent on everything until now and suddenly he says jimmy knew but then wait how could jake know if jake didn’t also know that kris was a disgusting creature
when that second video came out i knew everything was BS, i already was thrown off from the illegal lottery claim and the other really tiny things, but the second some dude who made 30k a day having to go through a luke warm hot tub and a ice cream machine that is broken compares his experience to a war crime I was like bye
MAIN SUMMARY(According to the comments cuz ill b honest i dont got time to watch all this)
In this video Soggy Cereal says Mrbeast ISNT completely innocent he is still guilty of some things but dogpsck isnt 100% correct about everything he lied about some things so dogpack is NOT a 100% trustworthy source
@@ahsanahmedbhaila Dogpack was an emotion-driven fool who fumbled that bag and shot himself multiple times with multiple smoking guns. The fact anyone still takes him seriously after how poorly he’s handled shit speaks volumes.
@@Ayahuasca98Don't trust the evidence that is proven to exist because it might be paid for. Instead trust the guy with "trust me bro" as his source, and when it's not his source, his source is doctored, out-of-context clips.
Now there is someone with actual brain I think that soggy could also be paid by mrbeast to debunk most of the allegations and he provided all the sufficient proofs
Bro I am not taking anyone sides . Now I think that I will only believe what the court says in future. I think that soggy could also be paid by mrbeast to debunk most of the allegations and he provided all the sufficient proofs
21:15 i wouldn't call it evil, but there's a serious issue if a company forgets to provide something they explicitly offered. It's like the whole forgetting to donate to the one pilot eye doctor thing. I dont think it makes them evil, but they are definitely extremely irresponsible and incompetent at the VERY thing their business surrounds itself with. From what it seems like, this might be a pattern of behavior, and show that theres some serious issues within the company.
I want to restate it differently, that I'm not calling Mr beast evil, I'm specifically referring to Mr Beast as a company, and calling them Negligent and having serious internal failures. That's not evil, nor is it explicitly putting blame on Jimmy.
@@tanvirsourav83 that's REALLY underselling the significance of the mistakes, I doubt most million dollar companies wouldn't properly pay on time for a service they received. It's a crime, they're just lucky the 2 instances of this were nice enough to not report them, and repeatedly tried and getting a response, before bringing it to public attention. And even after that, it took a public backlash before they actually respond to the problem.
@@tanvirsourav83this comment really minimizes the significance of the issues I brought up. They're not just a consequence of an imperfect company, they're a sign of a dangerous problem within the business hierarchy, particularly in relation to paying people who provide services or resources.
Also if Dogpack was an ex-employee why is he the only person to reveal the allegations, several other people left the team and were against MrBeast but never mentioned the allegations, and one dude was literally rambling about random stuff and yet never mentioned a single allegation.🤔
The part with Garrett is horseshit. Who feels "used" and has their personal life and financial stability ruined because of that one clip in the dogpack video with a voice filter over it which he says is crappy but even listening to both side by side I can't tell it's him beyond the voice being obviously male. If he was already an ex-employee at that point how could that have possibly impacted him financially and why is him having manic episodes and losing relationships and close friends in any way related to the dogpack video? None of it makes any sense and since you don't provide proof that Garrett IS the voice in the dogpack video, why should I believe anything he has to say in the first place?
Illegal lottery #2 clearly wasn't "disproven" you say it yourself, it's shady and scummy and there's no "proof" that Beast didn't reward random unpaying chat members. Since you couldn't find one like you could for some of the other claims it seems strange to say there's no reason to believe it didn't happen, not being able to find anyone who recieved a reward actually supports the claim that unpaid entries didn't recieve reward consideration. Dogpack didn't definitively claim that no chat members recieved prizes either and you can't support your claim that they did so I'd mark that one off as questionable.
Regarding Mack and the $800,000 clip, just because he wasn't the only one staying in the mansion that doesn't mean it wasn't his permanent residence while he was working there. They could just as easily have been roommates god knows the place is big enough. Obviously since Mack is a plant the sob story he gives in the Beast video can't be taken seriously, I sincirely doubt he gave $800,000 to his financially struggling friends, if he even has any. I don't find dogpacks editing in that part to be misleading, even if he left in Mack's sob story it wouldn't change the fact that Mack is a plant so what he says is irrelevant, he only used the clip he edited down in order to save time in the video and make a joke.
The Jake part is also horseshit. Obviously Beast didn't literally commit a war crime or Jake would've brought him up on federal charges, he wasn't "forced" to do the bunker video but he was coerced into doing it and even when he expressed the desire to leave he was continued to be coerced, which while not a war crime is still fucking disgusting behaviour. The war crime joke was obviously used to emphasize the harsh conditions and mental state Jake had to go through during the bunker video filming, I didn't realize some people were actually taking it seriously but that's on them, not dogpack.
Yup, people really should research things themselves if they want to talk about an issue that matters to them, and make sure to see what all the sides are saying. And than use critical thinking and introspection to see where you stand yourself. But many people continue to fall back into the dual bias
PLEASE CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG BUT The first thing i noticed with this video is that Dogpack404 "recorded without his knowledge" I looked up where Dawson French "Dogpack404" lives and it says North Carolina. North Carolina has a one party consent law where HE only needs to agree to record the conversation not BOTH and DOES NOT have to inform him. Garrett says it "hurt him financially and mentally" which he does not prove at all and cant really be used because 1. Dogpack404 never disclosed who this employee was 2. he used a voice changer over it and 3. maybe im dumb but how does this affect his friendships talking about Delaware at mrbeast when its just "gossip" and nothing is "true"... Idk why he keeps saying it wasnt consensual when it dosent matter Logan Paul's manager got mad he was recorded by Coffeezilla when he lives in Texas and has the same law where he does not need to inform you hes recording. When he talks about the Warcrime joke Jake Weddle im pretty sure KNOWS it was a joke but he didint actually know it was apart of the Geneva Convention if that makes sense which is why he says "which turns out to not be a joke." Idk but to me that just seems like he looked it up and was like "oh shit that is a war crime he wasnt joking" yk? Then the definition of a Warcrime of Sleep deprivation it says its defined as torture and "is ALSO prohibited to the treatment of trainees" what i get from that is it dosent matter if weddle is or is not a "detainee" it is still a form of fucking torture that is a warcrime. Thats just my opinion for the Warcrime section. Yes I agree Dogpack404 is fucked up for the illegal lottery 3 and many other things mentiond the cp etc. I agree Dogpack sometimes does act fucking stupid I watched Ludwig's stream live when Dogpack was in his chat and they got on a discord call it was like a circus it was so funny It did lead me to think hes not as smart as he claims because anything ludwig asked he said "im under NDA" and called Ludwig "controlled opposition" I didint expect to see Ludwigs stream clips here lol. Those are just some things I noticed everything else I agree with him and dont have anything against. Mr Beast is fucked up for things said by Dogpack and Dogpack is fucked up aswell, But Ive watched the Coffeezilla video and there is alot more you can criticize Mr beast for that his company is shady and shitty maybe not himself but his company for surely is.
without his moral consent lil bro ?? think about it like if the age of consent somewhere is 14 and a 20 year old guy gets with a 14 year old, it's legally fine in the country (ew) but not morally at all, but it will cause repercussions to both parties
I find it shocking that people take Dogpack's side on LITERALLY EVERYTHING he's done without question. Obviously Mr. Beast isn't a good guy and has a lot to answer for, but Dogpack isn't doing this for any altruistic reasons and is clearly willing to straight up lie (whether by omission or straight up telling false narratives) to further what he only sees as catharsis for being let go.
The reason why most people believed dogpack, (including me) because it’s true… until proven guilty unless the claims were outlandish and obvious lies. In which, to most of us, we’re not clearly fake. I’m glad you backed your stuff up with evidence debunking dog packs lies. Although, there are still claims that dogpack has made or found out to have been true. Like how the gambling may not be “illegal” but it’s the fact that he has gambling in the first place. Which is pretty scummy, but I can’t help but respect mr beast for getting that bag. And the AI in the videos, or faking some philanthropy videos with CGI. It’s just more like why? Why make it seem like it’s worse than it actually is? Is it because it’s more engaging? Using CGI in his videos is fine… but makes him feel as less credible as a youtuber.
all the people in the mr. beast situation are just blurred together in my brain I can't remember anyone, Dogpack and Pegasus are seperate people? what do you mean?
The ignorant assumption is insane, bro clearly doesn't have the capability of watching the damn video before commenting about it because you're not comfortable accepting the fact that dogpack is a fraud as well.
this is why u dont trust anyth u see on the internet... nothing is real and most ppl dont actually give a shit if its even reliable and js milk the situation.. honestly the best thing to do is not give an actual fuck abt all this dumb drama and like GO OUTSIDE 😭😭
I swear to god you guys believe everything you see online. You probably believed Jimmy, then dogpack, then this guy. Stop caring, it makes your life a whole lot easier.
Nah. If everything was fake. Then why hasn't Mrbeast Responded? (If it is in the video i aint watching it) and there is still multiple more Allegations.
Dogpack glazers have nothing to say other than you must be paid off by jimmy 😂 they cant accept the fact that they were dumb enough to be manipulated by fraudpack 💀
how about the thing that mr beast didn't pay for the surgery of the "cure blindness" or something like that? 🤔
well, if you still thinking "Mr Beast is a good guy" after the "philanthropy" that supposed to be "the most positive side" of Beast got accused, I don't know what to say to you anymore 😂😂
He covers that in this video, did you not watch it? They got the money, and it was an issue from the 3rd party they used who was supposed to send them the money.
This video is garbage? If this was any bit true Mr beast wouldn't have deleted and scrubbed all his discord messages this shit is wild people are still backing mr beast to me man he clearly knew what was going on
how does one thing compare to the multitude of truth? Beast can be wrong about scrubbing the servers but can still be in the right in other situations. You’re mad dumb 🥺 it doesn’t make him completely innocent but it does clear his name about a lot of allegations.
The video is not bad the entire point is calling both dogpack and mr beast bad and dog pack isnt perfect hes not calling mr beadt good hes calling dogpack bad
It's pathetic how much effort you're putting to cover up for an obvious Criminal hopefully they paid you something to ruin your reputation cuz that what you've done
If you need to keep one thing in mind as well is that you can't let this distract you from the fact that Mr Beast is still going full grifter now with KSI and Logan Paul and instead of responding to all these allegations as false as they are
He went to India to try and get a new fanbase that's already showing how fucking toxic they can be
Dogpack being a shitty human being doesn't take from the fact that Jimmy while not nearly as bad as it was said, is still a money-hungry scumbag that scammed his audience with crypto and is willing to tag along with human trash
these allegations have nothing to do with KSI and Logan Pual. This is all about the things that happened before they teamed up. It takes ALOT of the facts when this guy has more viable evidence than dog packs videos, and secondly, they don’t have to make a public announcement when they are actively developing and fixing their mistakes silently. We all know this doesn’t make Mr.Beast a good guy, but it definitely doesn’t dismiss the evidence in this video. not everyone is a beast dick rider, some people just can’t stand false accusations being spread under the guise of “journalism” or “reporting”
@@AntiUttp625 I wrote a huge thing and YouTube deleted it, but I do want to add one more comment just to say that you claimed none of the allegations were debunked in your first comment and now in your response you admit that nearly everything is debunked, so great job
@@AntiUttp625 actually, let me go through all of your points.
1. You're misrepresenting the argument. No one EVER said there was no CGI. Mr. beast had admitted to using CGI for a very long time. The point was always that Dogpack claimed that parts of the videos were fake and CGI was used to replace real stunts. This was a lie.
To make this point clearly and make you seem like a mouth breathing idiot, Mr. beast blew up the entire earth and many people in his videos using CGI. Does that mean his videos are fake? Obviously not.
Second: You didn't say enough to even make a point here.
Third: You say "they don't debunk it enough" okay, what does that even mean? It's debunked or it's not.
Fourth: You say it was rigged due to a PR problem. No it wasn't rigged, the men could have still have won. There's no way to know before hand who would have won and the reasoning was explained and you admit it wasn't done out of mal intent.
Sixth: if 90% of the claims that Mr. Beast's intentionally fakes his content are lies, what does that tell you about the 10%? That it was likely just a mistake. And if it wasn't, someone would have leaked that information online by now. They're blind claims.
Seventh: Yeah, so if someone maliciously lies about literally hundreds of things, you shouldn't default to believing them on everything else, which is exactly what's happening here.
Everything dogpack has said needs to be fully re-evaluated from the ground up. You're coming at this from the position that Beast is guilty until proven innocent, which is the wrong way to look at things
If you don't feel like reading huge mounds of text, don’t read it. But if you’re going to fight back without seeing the truth or at least a valid POV by reading this, I automatically win this argument. I wrote it because you asked why I don't agree with this guy, and what hasn't been debunked yet. But if you can, then here it is.
First: The CGI: Soggy Cereal and Stucky are using the tactics DogPack did to just assume it’s not CGI, without providing any proof whatsoever. Jimmy DOES use CGI. It’s clearly in his Nuclear Bunker video when he took a side angle picture, and the other videos were also not proven.
Second: The Text Messages: Similar story as the CGI, as SoggyCereal provides no concrete proof to it.
Third: The Interview With Jake Weddle: He just says it’s fake with no proof. Now, I'm not saying there's no way this along with the last 2 points can be true, but they don't debunk it enough, and most are too lazy to catch that and skip on it.
Fourth: The Boys Vs Girls: It clearly WAS rigged due to a PR problem. I’ll admit, this one’s 50/50 due to the Covid thing, but Jimmy still rigged it. By putting a red X, soggy FIRMLY states it wasn’t rigged at all, but we all know there clearly WAS bias, with the Rubiks Cube thing. It wasn’t right what Jimmy did, not doing anything because of the Covid, but what else could he do?
Fifth: CP allegations: He’s saying Jimmy did nothing wrong with Chris. He did say Chris did do bad, but that Jimmy had no CP involved.
Sixth: 10 Minute Video: He does NOT debunk all of the DogPack allegations on that one. He just shows one image; and that’s it. Nothing else in it. He ignores the guy touching the laser, the valve, and other stuff. This is not just DogPack that made it up, you can actually watch the videos and see them for yourself. Another fake from him.
Seventh: Soggy Cereal said he didn't have time for EVERYTHING, and even openly admitted to leaving out crucial stuff due to reasons of time. How can you prove one's innocence by doing that? Sure, he did explain SOME points fully, but not ALL of them. I know he can definitely do it though.
CONCLUSION: Soggy is overgrazing Jimmy here, while Stucky is glazing him to infinity, more than any glazer out there ever with EVERYTHING being a glaze video about Jimmy, twisting everything to his side, even if it has concrete proof, there is concrete proof he isn’t innocent either. Jimmy was deleting comments, meaning he was clearly trying to hide things, and went on as normal, faking dislikes and so many things, not learning at all.
I’m not saying DogPack is innocent, and MrBeast certainly isn’t innocent either, far from it. DogPack blew things over the top in his expose video, attacking him too much and exaggerating things that are clearly not true. And Jimmy also did bad stuff, which has been concretely proven, if you watch the MrBeast videos, so not everything is twisted by DogPack.
Overall, this gave DogPack TONS of explaining to do, and I hope he does it. I do not like MrBeast, I do not like DogPack, and I CERTAINLY do not like Stucky, the #1 biggest glazer of all time, not admitting ANYTHING wrong about Jimmy and trying the best he can to turn everything to Jimmy's complete innocence in all directions.
So yeah, that's my opinion, and all sides have undeniable proof on them, so DO NOT judge too quick. But, for now, I'll wait till DogPack responds…
No we don't, that mf was doing nothing but throwing insults at dogpack. Low iq rebuttal. Mrbeast is still shady, just not as shady as dogpack portrayed him to be.
god damn i can only imagine in a month theres gonna be a soggy cereal exposed and then THAT dude will get exposed and its a long line of 😡🔫🤬🔫🤬🔫🤬🔫🤬🔫🤬🔫….. JESUUUUS
jake weddel and the war crime "joke" was about them faking the videos when they are in them but when jake was in the vid they couldnt fake and turn off the lights for him .... youre kinda going around the topic here soggy
What about Mr beast looking at the shadman poster years ago? He knew that Tyson had that. Maybe not a pedophile but definitely knew that he was weird. Maybe he thought it was just edgy, and there was probably no way he knew about shadman. But still… did he ever question Tyson’s poster?
Cant wait for the big boi “I never trusted dogpack” people to come here just like those saying they didnt trust jimmy back in dogpacks video. They all just lookin for an echo chamber
I mean, I actually never trusted him. I immediately categorised his videos as a generic attempt to cancel MrBeast, as there have been many others in the past. Even if YouTube kept recommending me his videos, I never clicked on them.
Man, maybe I should start a youtube drama channel to get some of that chedda The first minute just makes me feel like now someone else is trying to jump on the bangwagon of hate for views.
i knew the alleged cp was a far stretch and found it stupid everyone was jumping on train that yeah alleged is same doing the actual crime, so thanks fo rhte video confirming my stance
MrBeast telling Dylan to watch this video INSTEAD of making one on YouTube is suspicious. If he did NOTHING WRONG why didn’t he make an apology on YouTube and why is he RECOMMENDING your video instead of MAKING ONE??? Also, where's the crypto scam, Lunchly controversy (Moldy Cheese and Turkey Stack Ems missing), MrBeast faking his Philanthropy (In Video and in Sponsors Link: https://youtu.be/RRUoleMTkBI?si=FvbhRVSF8ZnNVNqH), Faking Signatures, Contestants Abused on Beast Games Set, MrBeast changing scores with Rosanna Pansino, and MrBeast collaborating with Logan Paul and KSI who did terrible things (Like Logan Paul in Japan, KSI Crypto Scam)? Also I've been a subscriber for years and HAVEN'T Received anything from MrBeast but I see his employees in his videos pretending they got an invite meanwhile I STILL didn't get anything from him.
@@ViktorL595 the explanation of Jimmy recommending this video is pretty simple: he's paying this guy to defend him. Evident by the fact that mrbeast himself commented on this video..... then later deleted it because he knew people would figure him out.
btw i think you're missing out on quite a few accusations. like the one about female contestants not being provided with adequate hygiene products and being made fun of for it
tbh i think at the end of the day, mrbeast's challenge type content very often gets into the territory of "how desperate are people for money" and sometimes that gets pretty depressing
The amount that this guy thoroughly waterproofed his argument is insane. Take for example at 44:09 where he shows a screenshot of a fake tweet from DogPack404 for less than 3 seconds but still puts a disclaimer at the bottom telling the viewer that "This is a fake tweet for comedic purposes". I don't see DogPack404 saying that "Half of my argument is baseless slander for profiting purposes"
I don’t trust you, I don’t trust dogpack, I definitely don’t trust mrbeast, in terms of this video the entire video wasn’t really helping mrbeast at all. just fighting dogpack. the entire thing about working with logan paul which is a known scammer that still has a platform, and a crybaby. ion trust mrbeast and I don’t really like the cgi he uses.
Ima be honest this MrBeast/DogPack404 farming has gone on far enough just everybody and their grandma has seen these videos. Tbh i dont really care anymore.i still like your videos and i do want the trues to come out but the farming MUST stop.
Bruh this video should not exist because we all know that Mr Beast is fucked up and same with Ava but if people disagree like this guy then there stupid brain washed fuck shows 💀
... So disinformation is okay so long as you agree with it? Is that what you are saying?
Keep in mind, I'm no Mr. Beast defender, but if someone is falsely accusing anyone of literal WAR CRIMES, then they deserve to be called out just as much as the person they are accusing.
It seems like there are legitimate criticisms about Mr. Beast that he needs to respond to but Dog pack really just threw fake accusations at Mr. Beast mixed in with real ones. The problem is that all these nothing burger and flat-out fake accusations about mr beast makes the real ones looks like fake ones too. Dogpack should have just done research and just stuck with the ones he had proof on but NOPE he needs clout.
I mentioned this on Dogpack’s OG video and I’m glad to see the hiring manager mention this, but as someone who has previously worked a sales position in a popular retail store, the whole “no doesn’t mean no” is VERY common in sales training to simply say “find ways to make the sale work for everyone, don’t get discouraged”.
Soggy at 54:47 I think it would've been nice to let us, the viewers know about it but instead they kept it a secret and lied to everyone and I doubt there was a lot of public information about it too, As dogpack404 said he's not an "investigator" But I do think they're both in the wrong I'm not siding with anyone here just stating my opinion
More pegasus rn: MR BEAST IS OVER, MR BEAST IS DONE, HES DONE, HES FINISHED, HES COOKED, ITS OVER, ITS FINNALY OVER, ITS JOEVER, MR BEAST IS COOKED, DOCKPACK IS DONE DOGPACK IS COOKED, DOGPACK IS FINISHED
the funny thing are the people in the comments still talking about how terrible Mr beast is because... uhhh umm because he is! their mistake of putting Mr. Beast on this god-like pedestal means even doing things everyone does or honest mistakes still can't just be honest mistakes or non malicious. they must be because he is evil. he does do bad things, every single YouTuber does. they do it because they are all attention whores. without exception. there is no content creator who is not. because it's why they do what they do, to be seen and noticed. Your expectations of them should start there and you're far less likely tobe disappointed. it's sad we investigate stuff like this more than we do the person we elect to office.
If Jimmy/Mr.Beast could’ve just immediately responded to the first set of allegations that DogPack’s made in his first video, then this whole drama wouldn’t happen in the first place!
I feel like both sides are at fault at this point 🤷♂️
He still knew about Tyson, did crypto scams (per Coffeezilla), had questionable involvement in the Beast Games drama, and censored his comments and videos, so he’s still not a good person. He just isn’t a total creep nor is he totally irredeemable.
Mr. Beast teaming up with two crypto scammers who've been exposed by Coffeezilla while also being under investigation by Coffeezilla for crypto is still...
this aint gonna end. They gonna expose this video then expose the video that exposed this video then expose the video that exposed the video that exposed this video. 😭
On the note of the “No does not mean no” policy, I have to agree with Kara, it has been around long before they put it down on paper.
I work in call centres mostly, and especially in sales/outbound, you’re taught that no doesn’t mean no *in that context*, it’s not about pushing people’s boundaries or making them consent to things they don’t want to.
Basically how I would frame it to a newbie who’s about to start making cold calls is like this: they might say no, but if they’re still on the phone, you still have an opportunity to make a sale.
Is cold calling scummy? You make your own decision on that. Twisting that in the way they did? really fucking scummy, no two ways about it.
ok the one of thing people need to understand is that people are so stupid that they cant even understand that your doing the same as him, making a 1 hour long video because of your own agenda, every youtuber who deals in drama is either a piece of shit a pussy a hypocrite a bitch or just straight ass money hungry freaks or all those by default, its very clear and people will just be stupid asf man.
21:45 so a serving size of 43g hersheys is being compared to TWO serving sizes mr beast chocolates? Nope. It says feastables is just 60g NOT 80g which would be 2 servings. So you are 20grams short off a double serve size.
Just another example of why you're a pos.
You are aware most of the fans and people watching are underage, and you still have no guilt to lie to their faces even after all this!
I haven't finished the video yet, and I'm only 41 minutes in, but I'm just going to say something that may or may not be unrelated. I can't help but be unsettled at this dogpack guy. People say Jimmy's eyes are soulless and empty, but have some of you taken a good look at this guy? Whenever he talks, it's exactly how people describe how Jimmy looks. I'm no psychiatrist, believe me. But I think I'm empathetic enough to feel the "vibe" of a guy. And yeah, in my opinion, and based on what I see, his eyes are just as soulless as Jimmy's. But hey, I'm just here to watch, so treat this as an observation.
Bro, @21:33, you muppet they are not the same size when you swapped the chocolate bar. You are worse than anyone involved in this whole drama. You are the only one that put their hand up to deceive the public. You should be ashamed
@@slash4660 No, listen properly. He said dogpack incorrectly used a single serving of hersheys against a double of feastables, then he pulls out a 60g feastables bar implying its double the amount of chocolate. Thus the extra sugar. But he skipped the fact the numbers aren't the same amount, and the feast ables is 20grams off from being double the amount.
He's not glazing Mr beast at all. You'd know that if you actually watched the video. He still critises him. The main point of the video is to call out dog pack on his lies
With the new toy line he released, the slot style games hes had out, he definitely is promoting gambling to kids - the only thing i didnt see fully mentioned here that i still wish hed stop lol
Yeah this whole situation is honestly fucked with both sides apparently being bad, at this point I don't care about those two anymore. All I want is justice to be served
You're completely ignoring that Jake Weddle himself was manipulated and gaslit to continue staying on the challenge, while they continued to torture him. Just blatantly skipping by such simple information does not encourage me to take your opinions seriously.
MrBeast wants to make himself look as good as possible, whereas Dogpack wants to make him look as bad as possible, it makes sense that the truth is somewhere in the middle
No, that doesn't make sense because you're assuming that cereal or whoever this guy is, is being totally impartial just because he says so. You can't take one person's word for it that they are the ultimately impartial adjudicator. The truth does have to lean one way or another, and the guy who posted this video, whether he admits it or not does have a personal bias because everyone does.
an ouroboros of slop and drama. when will people realise that they can do more with their lives than constantly feed their brain with 1 hour exposés of celebrities or (in)famous people? shit like this popping up in my recommended after watching one coffeezilla video is giving me legitimate brain damage. situation this, truth that, who gives a fuck man? there isn't a genuine reason to care about internet drama and allegations, unless you were directly affected by it. the kind of people actually watching this are either playing it the backgorund, or have absolutely nothing going on in their lives and are seeking a sense of superiority by seeing the shortcomings of anyone and everyone exposed. hopefully if you're reading this, you can break out of the brainrot and realise that your own life is plenty cinema, so focus on it instead.
Bet there are ZERO checkmarks on that board at the end. Im @17:00. They may be free lotteries, but mr beasts team have been blatantly caught making that line "no purchase neccessary" miniature and hidden in their ads. You are a complete scumbag for going out of your way to cover up for Jimmy when talking about real crimes.
How much did jimmy pay you for this one must be a coincidence you just randomly acquire the audio of him being terminated, something nobody else knew existed besides the beast team, and you just magically get a bunch of beast members for an interview
@@slash4660 Not even tryna stand up for dogpack, I can just smell a paid video from a mile away lol Mr Beast follows soggy on twitter as well one of his 1.1k followers it’s just sus
He literally critised Mr beast. And no wonder dog packs audio got leaked of him being fired. Dog pack lied about so many facts, your obviously going to have people who work with Mr beast leak the audio. You would to if someone made numerous lies about you and your company which you work hard in and actually care about, especially when its donating millions of dollars a month to people less fortunate. Also I don't find it that suprising that he got a bunch of interviews with employees. If you were an employee mad at dog pack because of the amount of lies he made about you and your friends, then a 200k sub youtuber contacts you saying he wants to interview you for a video where he's exposing the lies, im pretty sure your going to do it
This is the video mr.beast was talking about. Glad to know it wasnt him to do it and he paid someone else to look like an idiot for him. 😂 58:50 nice math degree, that lisp is at least a Harvard education so I expect at LEAST that much. Saying he got 10k to then say he got 10k plus the 1m prize split in 24...news flash. 1000000 divided by 24 is 41,666$. Not a simple crypto pump and dump went over either. The argument isn't that Mr.Beast is a "terrible person who deserves no community!" The argument is that mr.Beast is a liar and lied to get to where he's at which is what we now know as true.(you confirmed in your own little video) you did the exact same thing the past employee did and walked over everything that WASNT important trying to boost his image back up...news flash, some of us think with our brains and not our butts so try harder.
Nice evidence with the first guy @10:30. So he says none of what HE WAS CAUGHT AND RECORDED SAYING is true and what people just believe that? It is for his own benefit after getting caught discussing shady shit. Is it ridiculous to think he may be lying? LOL Not even 10mins out of an hour and a half! and you are already twisting the truth. This is going to be entertaining..
We all know how quickly Jimmy settles out of court. And also the amounts of money he bribes people with
@@slash4660 I dont care about dogpack or soggy biscuit and his delusions. I care about Jimmy the little twitching nervous rat. You dont just get to say, "oh well both said some inaccuracies so must be in the middle and they are both guilty or innocent". No mate. Jimmy is in a diff boat to anyone else involved in this madness as he is profiting and calling all shots not even reacting to anyone or anything.
Both are In the wrong here. Soggy acts like what he said after the fact is proof and dog pack 404 acts like what he said is definitive proof. I'm assuming the actual truth is somewhere in the middle
But he is actually helping people. The claims against Mr beast weren't that he isn't helping people but that the things and methods that he is doing to help those people is wrong.
I hate MrBeast, but what I hate more its people trying to build themselves up by taking advantage of people hating MrBeast
I really do hope DogPack gets cancelled for the very same reasons people are cancelling MrBeast, because he is as bad as the shady stuff Jimmy has done
I am vindicated. I said from the very beginning the only credible accusation he gave was the illegal lotteries, and that most likely he did it unintentionally, because most youtubers literally don't know that those kinds of giveaways count as a lottery, or how not to be an illegal one.
@ How in the absolute FUCK could Jimmy not have known when the guy’s fucking nickname was a reference to the crime he committed? How could he not have known about Ava when he was in a group chat with her engaging with pedophilic memes? How deluded can you fucking Beast Brained losers get?
@@maplesyrup_productions Oh no, he hired a man with a criminal record without knowing he had one? Which is... checks notes completely legal and ethical? And then later fired him? Crazy!
Wdym? He exposed lies. How did he ruin anything? If the basis of dog pack 404's claims were based on lies and hypocracy they deserve to be called out. Soggy isn't defending Mr beast, just bringing the actual truth of the matter to light. Mr beast still did bad things, he isn't say that he isnt
deep isolation and keeping them awake is a war crime under the ICC and the geneva convention but the key word is war... its not a regular crime under the geneva convention taking personal photos away is also a war crime
This seems like 'damning evidence' but as with Dogpack I have seen 'damning evidence' turn out to be not so much 'evidence' as it is 'speculation'. I am simply not going to trust anyone on this, Not dogpack, not mrbeast, not this guy.
At this point I’m not even sure what to believe, there’s so many conflicting narratives and claims that it’s all just getting muddled together. Good on you for sticking to facts, or at least what look like facts lol
70% of this video is the definition of stretching facts. 20% is straight up misleading 10% is backed up by facts. And saying it's 10% is extremely generous because guess what, the employees most likely have been told to say certain things, and you getting to interview them is highly suspicious as if someone in the beast team wanted you to interview them
Pathetic failed comedian couldn't understand a lighthearted joke; the absolute irony! He's so terrible I'm shocked to say that Amy Schumer is a better comedian than him!
Yeah ok mate... Just because you say someone is sketchy doesn't mean everyone is now blinded by Jimmy Donaldsons obsession with money, fake charities aimed at minors, rigged giveaways aimed at minors, peddling junk food aimed at minors, or involvement and support regarding cp again, aimed at minors. And or ignoring sa allegations and much much more within the company he created and owns. No one else is to blame. Jimmy calls the shots.
Try and tell me he didnt know. pfft.
These simps in the comments all know that Jimmy is a manipulative greedy little freak. They just cant allow their huge egos to admit someone they dont even know personally should and is being called out and punished for reprehensible behaviour.
I look forward to seeing Mr Beast behind bars, or at the very minimum, cancelled youtube channel. 😘
Don't you see how DogPack404 also comes from a genuine place? The information in this video is what we are compiling to learn the truth. You're one to talk about manipulating the viewer, because you're extremely biased. Your tone, choice of words, etc.
Well, Soggy actually did a cool thing known as research, even flying to a different continent just to make sure he isn’t making any wrong claims… And wth does “comes from a genuine place” mean?
With the relevant permission, you could try a thumbnail where you are sitting down with the best known employee you interviewed, and you photoshop some stuff with dogpack or something into the background. I think it would help since there's so many videos with the current style out there already, and honestly. So many people will probably just think this is another exhausting video trying to expose Jimmy for more allegations at this point.
Listen I can get onboard with most of what you said in this video EXCEPT the war crime stuff. Weddle's confession highlights a distinct lack of care and compassion in Jimmy. Of course it's not an actual war crime, and Dawson SPECIFICALLY states that in the second video, however it doesn't excuse his treatment. The fact that we have to treat terrorists better than Jimmy did Weddle has horrifying implications for a globally renowned kid's youtuber. And while the argument of "he was getting paid and could leave at any time" sounds like it holds up, you have to keep in mind that there is a clear power imbalance. Weddle isn't particularly fortunate but wanted to enable his goals, and Jimmy being in a position of power was willing to exploit Weddle's desperation only to physically torture him for nearly 2 weeks.
didnt he show that one interview about an employee saying jake weddle's complaints were valid and soggy saying he's glad that employee was honest about it?
just because he said it as a joke doesnt mean it wasnt a joke, thats what he was saying, he was saying it WAS a joke but it turned out NOT to be a joke because of the fact it was a war crime
Idk dude you dont really do a good job at whitewashing this whole thing. Your sitting there trying defend a chomo, while playing videos of circumstantial evidence against him. Did Dogpack mislead people? sure. But at the end of the day it doesnt take away from the fact that Jimmy somehow keeps finding himself around chomos. To me, it feels similar to people who try to defend Michael Jackson. He was never convicted of anything but there sure was a lot of circumstantial evidence. Does that make him innocent? I guess to the eyes of the court, yes. But is our system 100% flawless? no its not. Sometimes very evil people get away with horrendous crimes because of their status and power.
You know... in an odd turn of events, this really helped their PR team iron out any kinks and really make sure that everything is okay. I also agree, this drama is so exhausting. I feel as if I need to dodge landmines avoiding the videos so it doesn't break my recommended.
"My brain tells me that if other people have gone through similar challenges and they've turned out ok then maybe its not the challenge"... bruh that is an extremely L take. the video he refers to had a day and night cycle, if Jake Weddles challenge really didn't have a day and night cycle they aren't even remotely comparable. major victim blaming. Dustins a POS.
Thank you so much for giving the other side of the commentary with depth, logic, and evidence. Though--as a response to your call to action: I definitely think it would be nice to have a part two covering a lot of the other things that have come up:
Surprise Witness TV: Illegal sale/shipping of a knife (to Lava when he was a minor if I remember correctly) She's actually found quite a lot of things, actually. Coffee & Cult: she caught a bit of a video in which Jimmy is the owner of the poster after Chris moved out months before Rosana: The faked philanthropy videos
I am not saying they are right or wrong, but I do appreciate hearing more voices and seeing more evidence/research. Again, thank you for the time and effort you put into this video.
DAMN. This whole situation is really crazy. I wish Jimmy can address the allegations and if he deserves it for his company to gain back their reputation and credibility. And I wish the best for everyone involved.
The fact that the random employee that exposed him is an asshole is irrelevant, all of the serious allegations are PROVEN true, and beast deserves to face consequences for doing illegal lotteries, hiring people on the registry, manipulating children for his benefit, faking/misleading charity work etcetera
This video lacks serious critical thinking and reeks of fanboy. Why put in all this effort if you weren’t going to make something good, accurate, or remotely on earth? Don’t you know the point of videos like this is to be good and accurate?
Complete MrBeast drama timeline -Ava gets exposed -Jimmy fires Ava -Dogpack releases his video -a couple months pass and Dogpack has released his second video -he releases his third video not long after -Nicolas DeOrio calls him out on the James Warren stuff -Rosanna and Dogpack release a collab -they get called out for being wrong about pictures Ava sent -Coffeezilla releases his video on MrBeast -Soggy Cereal releases his video on Dogpack
Low key this is part of the controlled response Jimmy is putting out, poison the water, put out false stuff so that nobody can tell what is true or not, attack their character so that people don't believe them, sideline the issues so that they don't seem important anymore.
Mr Beast is fighting back through proxys, out of nowhere channels with no engagement no popularity come out defending him with the same points, always attacking Dogpack 404 in the same way, yeah completely legit, my source you ask? uuuhhh current mr beast employees that definitely have no stakes and are not biased.
You know what the worst part is, that many are believing it and being turned against the truth, tomorrow video 3 of dogpack shows up and suddenly everyone on his side again, what a joke.
After watching the vid, my opinion changed from "Mr. Beast is a horrible person!" to "Maybe Mr. Beast isn't all that bad (but still some things were bad)." Though maybe the crypto or something else might change my mind again. I am a little angry though that with how many of these claims could be disproven, but Mr. Beast never did a response, instead you had to be like the third-party response. Maybe it was for PR reasons, but it could have made things a lot simpler. Good Vid btw!
Well he obviously wanted to wait until all of the allegations were made about him before he could respond. But there seemed to be new allegations being made about him every month, I top of the fact that he’s been waiting for Dogpack to release his “final” video which hasn’t happened for a few months now.
Now i am happy that mrbeast isn't that bad of a person the only problem i have with him now is him knowing about kris tyson (am not talking about the group chat am talk about the video were you can see mrbeast looking at the cp image uncomfortably)
Also, with that anime, the girl is 17. In most of the world (Including Japan, and some of the states in the US) The age of consent is 16, meaning it isn't pedophillia. It is weird, but not illegal
there is a million possible reasons from youtube processing, bitrate, etc. it's a lot similar to how sometimes backgrounds look green screened even if it isn't.
I don't understand how you just toss away Jake the Viking's statement especially because noone has addressed why the guy was wearing the mask. Jake's statement of "Jimmy knew" made this hiring into a much bigger deal. I'm sure Jake doesn't like people talking about his brother-in-law so it doesn't seem like it is in his best interest to say that Jimmy knew. It also isn't a comically absurd allegation; Delaware had the benefit of it being 8 years since his conviction, he probably said the charges were nonsense, and he had a work history at a well established store where he was infinitely more likely to come into contact with kids; I can easily imagine them saying if Best Buy was willing to hire him then he is harmless. Also the law firm specifically said "the Company knowing employing individuals with proclivities or histories towards illegal or questionable legal conduct are similarly without basis." which does not deny that they knew Delaware was a sex offender; the allegations against Delaware were that he had a single instance of misconduct would would therefore not fall under "proclivities or histories" since that requires a pattern of behavior. It seems like to me that they purposely chose to say "proclivities or histories" rather than say individuals with a criminal record for a specific reason; if there was no basis of Jimmy knowing then the lawyer should have gone with a more specific statement that would unambiguously include the Delaware allegations.
Before this video, i thought debunking false claims was hard to do. But now i know that with most of them, all you have to do is a quick google search and find the truth, while others are just a little more complex
thank god. i could see through him from the beginning, i haven't watched the video yet but it was clear everything he was doing was not about Mr. Beast but about himself. Dude is a loser.
I ain't even 10 minutes in and can safely say you have the trustworthyness if them both, example:
Who the fuck talks rumours about something that can ruin someones life this easily? And if these rumours were true (which they were more than less) why did he stay around at the company for half a second more? No investigation nothing. Also, you can't attribute this shit to being 19 years old, bro, he's not 8 and if someone doesn't know that corporations barely care who works for them, then I can't feel pity for them
okay im about halfway through right now and... bro... how did you fumbe it so bad? the video gets way better later, with some actual arguments and shit, if i were you i would erase the first give or take 20 minutes
good video about journalism on journalism however I want to reiterate something you said in the video which is that Mr Beast is not the saint in this situation, just the victim. Mr Beast has done a few bad things like the whole crypto thing for example and I dont think he's reimbursed them yet, I dont think he's reimbursed most people from his philanthropy stuff as well like the wells and the blindness cure but I could be wrong on that.
OG MrBeast fan since 50k here! It must have been incredibly difficult to go against the grain here, thanks for taking the time to investigate this situation and objectively assess it. I really do not know why Jimmy works with Logan Paul, it doesn’t make sense. Other than that, I think this drama was highly sensationalized by clout youtubers looking for clicks and people who know kids aren’t smart enough to spot the logical fallacies in dogpack’s video. I was really surprised that he just outright lied tho in the video—that is crazy tbh. But whats sad is on the internet everyone, including me, believed some of it just bc the video was popular and semi-well produced??? I found your channel through Asmongold actually and I am relieved a bunch of these allegations were disproven. Again, he needs to drop Logan ASAP and put out an explanation about why he did that. But then again, why is everyone only holding Jimmy to this standard? Remember how all of those YouTubers participated in the challenge video (which Logan was in!!!)?? Why are people so quick to judge jimmy for working with Logan, when plenty of other known and respected youtubers did it too? Like iShowSpeed was RIGHT THERE in recent streams/videos! It’s like suddenly the blame can only apply selectively? It doesn’t make sense. I think deep down, the truth is, people honestly do not care about this situation. People are looking to get mad online. And usually i do not care, but Hoodie made a great point about how misinformation promoted by Dogpack and others is actively harming charitable efforts. When you are actively spreading false information which consequently harms people in need via disrupting charity efforts, that is when you cross the line.
He works with Logan paul the same reason he looks up to Elon musk. Elon and Logan are both business minded, they overwork themselves and their whole life is their businesses. Exactly like Mr beast. It's that saying that goes like " keep like minded individuals around you" or something like that
@@Poopseatschips yep, I originally did care - I will admit. I was like "wow, the biggest youtuber ever is a shit person, that really sucks for the future of youtubers, etc...and their entire brand is for kids entertainment...This all started with REAL allegations of Kris Tyson being a PDf/Lolly/groomer and to me, that is serious enough as an uncle, to pay attention to.
There is, once again, a predator working on a kids channel. So, as an uncle, I would want to make sure my nieces/nephews avoid this content, why they need to avoid it and make sure my siblings block certain channels. And that's so much more important to me then someone being stupid enough to listen to social media influencers to buy crypto and lose their money or parents being dumb enough to buy youtuber merch for their kids.
Half way through this video, I asked myself "why am I watching an expose on some random dude?" And then I realized..."why do I even care about what Mr. Beast and all the social media influencers are doing when my siblings already blocked their channels, so do I just like drama?"
So, yes. as of my comment yesterday - I'm choosing to stop caring. One day, you will realize people can change their minds and express in written and verbal ways they are changing their mind. It's a wonderful concept.
A lot of dogpack’s evidence seems to do the ellipsis trick I learned in high school for taking quotes out of context and using them as evidence for your point even though the real quote was arguing against your point.
about the cgi fake thing n the fact that you have to hide an entire wall made for security reason iS STUPID, like ok the hole is real but why do that? To make it more interesting..that's so dumb showing THAT you need to be safe doing things like that is not CRINGE and doesn't take away from the show the way they do things to entertain children is still deceptive to me
I was under the impression it was a mrbeast and dogpack debunk video -- not just dogpack. That being said, it's definitely made clear the lengths that dogpack is going to slander and jump on every possibly negative thing for mrbeast
@@intothevoid9831 then have the video be called "The REAL truth about DogPack404" (Or "I worked for DogPack, he's a fraud" if you wanna be funny) Not "The REAL truth about Mr. Beast, cus that makes it seems like it's all about Mr. Beast not DogPack404
The guy in the 10 mins video did hit the laser? Seems like a big deal to gloss over when proving it wasn't faked. 👀 Wulp, that's it, whole video debunked, see ya in "Soggy Cereal's career is over" and "Soggy's cereal just lost all of his credibility" before the end of the year.
(Yes, this is a joke, everyone is tired of this, screw both of them)
So when I watched the two dogpack404 videos, I had a feeling that most of the claims brought up were heavily exaggerated and maybe false. Well, I was not wrong on that assumption.
You the goat bro after dogpack one video evidence became false I stopped believing him and it seemed like he was just doing random things to stay relevant. This video is why I subscribed to you
Most of the allegations are false, but some things still need answering, like the hide and seek video's editing of Pansino's ranking, the crypto transactions, etc. Dawson really needs to be used as a case study for future uncovering of manipulators, because his story was credible enough to be trusted for months, but people are always so quick to accept allegations as confirmations.
There are proven things he did like delete 100000s of comments faking dislike numbers don’t forget the Chris Tyson situation plus the illegal lottery’s and the fake hospital and the discord server
Haha ikr, I was thinking that as well. Some people will try to find dirt on Soggy and cancel him. And the forever cancellation spiral is on. Because no one is uncancellable
yeah half these allegations are just as petty as most of dogpack's first video. "He didn't say allegedly in every sentence! We caught him spreading misinfo!" This whole drama is stupid but you're glazing beast hard. also listening to this accent for 90 minutes is fucking torture
Tbh it's mrbeast's fault. Intentionally not addressing the allegations will make things worse like dream. Stop getting annoyed when a river source flows, stop the source from flowing when you so easily can. But mrbeast fanboys will never understand.
I think he is a bit over exaggerating but the sad thing is that it feels like he has to be like that, for it to stick. But he has some really good valid points, haven't watched it all, but what I have watched I agree with. But I wish he didn't have to give it out like a lawyer that tries to debunk the other person in a almost manipulative way.
@@igor_ostrovski Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Feels good to be right, I knew from the start something was a bit off about him, the way he was presenting the info and treating it all like a joke never sat right with me
@@AaronSmith-rm9kl you are excusing behavior that you wouldn't accept from someone who wasn't a celebrity. He isn't a god or a dirty he is a human, a human who made multiple shit choices to the point you have to find excuses and ignore his other actions that you can't excuse away.
@@darrylthompson798 yes but the signature is still valid as permission would have been given. Also he discusses the sex offender in the video it was a dumb mistake to not do a back ground check but at the end of the day is was clearly a mustake
Suing for defamation isn’t an easy case to prove especially since MrBeast is a public figure and the standards are higher compared to a private individual
@@darrylthompson798 His defamatory actions caused MrBeast to lose sponsorships and severe loses. If he also can prove that he made this video because he is disgruntled, Doggy is fcuked.
@AaronSmith-rm9kl it's not alleged when we saw people fake his signature, testimony by an employee that was subjected to mentally destabilizing environment and the reality that he did hire a sex offender as well as plenty of other claims and issues raised. You just want to bootlick, which is fine but admit that.
@@darrylthompson798no he is lying the reason he isn’t sued is because everything he has said is “allegedly” however he should still be held accountable
That's the thing he won't. Because what he stated is true. It only takes 4 minutes and some critical thinking to wonder, "If dogpack is lying, why hasn't he been litigated into oblivion?" It's because he isn't lying.
So apparently and allegedly this guy Dustin and this other people out of nowhere decides to speak with you because because of a slop video? And when this interviews happen? Am i suppose to believe it happen after the internal investigation? Didnt the investigators retain/recommend employees during the investigation to not make public statements in order to ensure accurate information and avoid witness getting tainted?
I noticed Dogpack's video had a lot of petty criticisms that made me immediately question them. Other inaccuracies, such as the signature of a brand name made me realize he was spewing a lot of nonsense. And then the statements that tried to prove a point with one or two examples. He knew a few people in a video, therefore no people could be random subscribers. He saw one shot of empty beds on a raft at night, so therefore they never slept on the raft at night. All of these can be convincing from someone that has gained trust, but none of this was sufficient proof by any measure. He tried to use his former employment at Mr. Beast as a way to gain credibility, but in reality, that should have hurt his credibility.
Watching the video, the fact that this man is being such an asshole and takes the "can’t go back to Delaware" thing as a literal Banishment puts me off
Edit: Oh, ok so he's mitigating the fact that they wouldn't turn the lights off and kept taking shit away because of ciurse something can't be bith bad for a person and something people can walk away from
yeah at the end of the day, when you watch Coffeezilla's investigation into Mr. Beast, (which is full of evidence, it seems at least $23 mill worth)
you see what Mr. Beast and his bozos are really about
I'm less concerned with DogPack's tactics and more relieved that someone finally shed some light on Mr. Beast's ridiculous lies about philanthropy and being the nicest guy in the world
Coffee, Dawson and Rosanna have done a public service
I don't know what to believe anymore Where does the base of this truth come from, what's stopping someone making a video saying no this is what happened and these people are lying and this is the truth?
I think its nice you brought some light on dogpack videos and show something closer to the truth. I still dont think mr beast is a good guy but certainly not the demon dogpack pictured.
My thoughts I’ll update throughout the video. -Agreed Lunchly is awful and moldy which Mr beast was trying to say it was a good product on tweeter? -Logan Paul and KSI are awful people and allegedly (but not really alleged) crypto scammers which is sketchy with the new evidence off beast being in crypto scams. Maybes they’ll bring this up later we’ll see. -hiring seg offender was really bad in Jimmy’s part and and completely neglectful but he was very young at the time so benefit of the doubt. -I definitely don’t think it’s a war crime but it is very scummy behavior to hold massive amounts of money above someone’s head if they do your challenge. Yes he did sign up for it and could have left but that’s just a lot of money man. That could change someone’s life. -Never mentioned making him run a marathon with no training for money. The after effect was awful. I feel like accepting money for that no strings attached was for compensation of that “torture.” Maybe will mention it later? -I’ve never thought Mr beast did an illegal lottery out of malicious intent, I always thought it was out of ignorance. Having other people sign his stuff was very scummy behavior though. -dogpack has always seemed off to me when he started making content with the girl (I forgot her name) doctoring videos is bad behavior. -He didn’t say that they were avoiding giving them the free dog food and said it was removed so he didn’t know if they got it or not. He sorta hinted at it but I wouldn’t say that’s a claim. -The CGI wasn’t even that serious of a claim to anyone I don’t think. Even if it was CGI I don’t think people would have cared. -That’s actually Pegasus’s second channel and he already has more than enough money so I don’t think that’s why he was doing it. It’s actually like how news channels will post updates every day even if it’s something small so you can get the information while it’s happening and not waiting for more stuff to happen. -It isn’t right for Mr. Beast to make his audience think they are getting his signature when it’s someone signing it for him in my opinion.
My ending thoughts: Dogpack is a bad person, Mr beats is a bad person, and Soggy made a few stretches and questionable things. Don’t think Soggy is a bad person though.
Keeps deleting my comments. Have to finish it down here because it won’t let me add more. -Timer still didn’t match up. -Mr beast still hasn’t talked about the crypto scams, Lunchly, over exaggerating philanthropy, and faking the signature.
The Jake weddle stuff was basically what squid games warned us about. That rich people would exploit the poor’s desperation for money for the sake of entertainment
@MelodyHayes Have to write here because it won’t let me add more. It’s also deleted some things I wrote. -the clock still didn’t add up even if it isn’t CGI. -In Mr beast investigation he had yet to mention faking his signature, over exaggerating the philanthropy stuff, the crypto scams, Lunchly should also be mentioned now and the other things that weren’t mentioned in this video. -Perhaps talk about the building wells edit. The eyes thing wasn’t too important because they still ended up getting the money.
Thank you for the informative video. Good way to finish my Sunday. I had an awkward feeling about DogPack from the start. I initially thought it was because I was biased towards MrBeast until I sorta believed the accusations.
Good to see people like you and some others reveal the truth, so thank you for that. Never expected to see this scandal take this big of a turn. Welp, I genuinely wonder what public opinion on this whole thing will look like going forward.
Maybe I can feel a little less bad for buying several Feastables bars? I mean, it wasn’t until the height of the scandal that they were finally available in Germany after years of waiting, so what can I do.
I was pretty critical with the Mr Beast drama and I only accepted around 1/3rd as legitimate and actually fair. My opinion on Dogpack was half and half but after his recent video that he claimed to forward to the fbi my opinion cratered to one-third. I'm glad to see more things I did not catch. I have sunk hours into drama of a content creator I have never watched nor plan on watching.
One more note is staff replacing contestants. It is illegal to due it on tv, but because it is an online show they can do that. To be fair I still find it morally questionable.
@@Queef_Storm mrbeast is horrible, even ignoring the pedophilic things he’s still a scammer. and funny how he has the money to donate to fake charities but gets the fans to do it while he donates like 2% of money to it
Ngl, it was a good video. Sorry I underestimated you Soggy. The only problem is that I would switch sides back to MrBeast ONLY IF he WASN’T involved in crypto scams (exposed by Coffee) and being involved and collaborated with the other scammers (Logan Paul and KSI) creating a bad product targeting and scamming kids for more profit, if he wasn’t for that I will be back at team beast. We can’t forget about him promoting gambling to kids to make profit.
Of all the accusations, this one was genuinely a conspiracy theory. “MR BEAST ENSLAVING CHILDREN???” More likely his web team just did some split testing and found that ‘slave free’ wasn’t boosting sales so they took it off that one page on the site
These are well refuted; however I don't get why you skimmed over the signature forgery. It seems deceptive to claim that Mrbeast personally signed your shirts, but it ends up being someone else.
Yeah, it's disingenuous, though I don't know if it can be labelled fraud; the vast majority of youngsters participating will expect a signature from the man himself, knowing otherwise would surely devalue the item for them.
Would it be so naive of them to think that's what they'll receive?
This just makes the whole MrBeast situation the more deppressing considering that Jake Weddle now looks like a piece of shit for going along with Dogpack445 and “frame” MrBeast for the “allegations” against him.
I don’t know why everyone was immediately on Jake’s side after hearing his story. He could have left whenever he wanted (and eventually did) and made over $100k in 2 weeks doing no work. Now he’s blown it all since then and still needs Jimmy’s money to pay off his debt which he didn’t pay off when he had the chance.
i could tell dogpack was dumb as rocks when he went off on twitter for faking challenges instead of focusing on the gambling allegations or any of the real serious stuff. made me ask myself why he was doing this and his argument failed from there in my eyes.
On that second point, It was clear that he consented. It seemed clear that it was a comparison that wasn't LEGALLY applicable But aimed to point out the unethical nature of what went on.
This scenario right here was very accurately predicted by the late Tom “Black Tiger” Simons, who demonstrated how confusing YouTube drama can get, especially with “stars” who you may have watched since young….honestly at this point only way I’m founding out wether MrBeast is guilty or not is by stepping into the multiverse myself.
Thank you so much man for opening my eye to approaching miscellaneous things. Genuinely, thanks.
This is the first 'drama' I've fully embroiled myself in, and I've learnt some substantial lessons when it comes to things like how to accept when I'm in the wrong. And my ears went a little red when I first saw this because I've made some pretty rash statements when I was defending DogPack, and midway through watching this I was like "damn."
Admittedly, I was a 'pretty' (being really light when I say 'pretty') stern believer of a lot of the allegations DogPack said, which I'll be a lot more careful when I'm approaching people like him, and I'll give myself a second chance because I'm still growing and accumulating my own nuance to form a somewhat coherent approach to topics lol
I think his video style and the way he kind of framed himself was subtly sly and manipulative... And piecing it together, I think he knew how to make a mainstream audience easily approach him, because the impression he first gives is that old YouTube and 'hey I'm so homely' vibe (and I guess it can be argued to be more of a stylistic choice, but again, I think it was intentionally done to make him more approachable to a less opinionated audience, you know, be open like Ryan Trahan etc., idk it's just a hunch) and he made a lot of his points less expansive to lure people into this 'plot' he made himself to extensively vilify his colleagues, most likely from malice since he didn't get what he wanted from the things you show verbatim. I believe some points he makes are valid, just insanely altered to fit his narrative.
I still don't believe you 100%, because I know people can be a really biased when it comes to unaccepted interviews and some are pretty dedicated to vilify people who they couldn't get any info out of (I can't think of any first examples but this is the closest I can think of as of now: those burner accounts that get thousands of likes on Twitter - I've never used it just heard examples - that spew the wildest allegations but have absolute 0 merit to them). Don't get me wrong, you make strong arguments, but I'm still side-eyeing this not because you're directly incorrect, it's more to do with your intent since, like my previous point, a soggy rejection can skewer some information into becoming bias rather than fact (and I know this is a strange reference, but it's kind of like Sabine Hossenfelder and her overexaggerated points against academics, even though a lot of her points are valid, they're distorted purely out of her own understandably terrible experience, but are still distorted and kind of misleading).
But even then, MrBeast responding to this like you're his messiah is kind of hilarious since even disregarding DogPack's allegations, he's built a horrible reputation from Lunchly and his possible crypto scam (which I'm leaning more to since it's being investigated by, well, Coffeezilla), which is just so ironic.
I hope that later you still keep this balanced and make MrBeast responsible for the things that are irrefutable, and not be (no ironic pun here) another dog of his just because he gave you a little pat on the head. He's not a good person whatsoever either way, and DogPack is someone whose points I'll have to take a grain of salt from now on. And you, even with all my praise, are someone who too I can't fully trust since I don't know what your next video is going to be about, whether you're going to sit on Jimmy's lap and let him stoke you or be completely immune from his 'join my ally' treatment and still hold him just as accountable for other heinous stuff he's done.
I also genuinely believe that his (DogPack's) colleagues are people who are genuinely dedicated to philanthropic efforts. Him antagonising the entire MrBeast workforce and saying 'some good workers' and never really emphasising on the amount of genuinely good people there are like it's that one angel who has pure intent of helping and everybody is a cog in the machine kind of leaves a bitter taste because yeah, MrBeast is pretty narcissistic with that Bill Gates mentality, but I think MrBeast Philanthropy is both a ploy to boost himself and a staple of the good his workers have done and I'd say this is kind of grey when you're arguing about intent (not defending MrBeast, but I think DogPack puts way too much shade on the workers).
47:06 this whole section is bs, yes, he got followers and clout. yes, he didnt make money so he needed to work so he isnt using this as an in to the content creation sphere or anything planning on starting to be the next big youtuber. saying that you arent monetizing the video could just try to prevent backlash as much as to brainwash people. there is no concrete proof and by saying this you are picking the side of mrbeast.
@@jonathanjohnson4594 that is not true, if he starts posting random, uninteresting stuff or even interesting stuff that most people dont care about he might get more views than a channel with 30 subs but its not gonna be enough to make a living or even get sponsorships.
@@ChaosEater39 Dogpack have the option to continue making videos. The those video will likely be monetized, he gained subscribers from the Mr. Beast video. When those subscribers watch his new videos, he’ll earn money from their views.
Subscriber are a indirect form of currency the more you have the more the money your videos will make.
@@jonathanjohnson4594 how so? he is not a more likable person because of this, he is not a less controversial person because of this, there is no reason he should have access to more money except if he is planning on getting a gig in the media.
Wow, this has got to be one of the most in depth investigations I've seen in a while. Really commend your work man, if I'm being honest I was never fully convinced by DogPack's arguments from the beginning, and it feels weird that the person who "exposed" Jimmy is being exposed himself. This has got to be one of, if not the most depth full online controversy that I have ever seen.
No, DogPack is a scumbag, but people like you don’t want to change your mind about Mr Beast because it would require admitting to yourself you allowed yourself to be fooled, which is too painful for your ego, but you also can’t deny the proof Soggy has shown here either so the only compromise your ego can make is deciding to believe they’re both bad people.
While the video is overall great and it does highlight that Dogpack404 is unrealiable there are some pretty noticeable holes or problems in the video: Like you proved that the Delaware hiring wasn't intentional, you also proved that they didn't immediately fix the problem, even when they found out about him being a RSO, considering the Best Buy video and Insane Asylum video was released one year apart from one another and in the Asylum video his face is covered up. I am sure this Garrett person is a good guy, and what not,but I find it awkward that we don’t see any tangible proof that's actually him, not anybody else, you could have shown a Dogpack message that he got, or something like that, but no we have to take his word for it that he is the one that sayed that stuff about Delaware and that's it. 47:35 I mean for all intents and purposes he still didn't gain anything tangible from all of this, considering he didn't upload any other videos, beyond the Mrbeast exposes so those subscribers mean pretty much nothing and the moment he is exposed as a fraud those subs and collaborations become even more meaningless, so I really don't understand why Dogpack claiming he doesn't get anything out of this is deceptive, considering the "fame" he got from all of this is not that everlasting. 1:04:45 I agree with the legal and fine part, BUT the signature does become less valuable, if people realize it considering people wanted a Jimmy autograph not an autograph from a random employee. For example if you went to a Beatles concert, in order to get John Lennon's signature on your Beatles T-shirt and years later decide to sell that for a collector only for a handwriting expert to tell you that's not Lennon's handwriting that's Yoko Ono's handwriting at that point the value would be basically worthless.
to add to that, tony's chocolonely seems quite shady as can be seen in articles as they dont directly have slave workers but their closest ally is one of the most well known slave work involved chocolate companies (Barry Callebaut) and are in no list of slave less chocolate, being straight up just a self proclaimed slave-less chocolate company with many people calling them out but nobody will know this.
@@exponentpeak481And you’re still going to find him guilty until proven innocent? It’s like you’ve learned nothing from all of this. I hope someone makes accusations about you and everyone believes them straight away even without any evidence so you get a taste of your own attitude
@@Ablonorid Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
there are multiple articles I could find that Tony's Chocolonely is heavily involved with slave labour and are lying (be reputable anti-slavery organizations) which in my opinion is worthy of a comment on its own because it disproves the disproving of one of the worst claims against mrbeast. it is also not on the slave free chocolate list.
@@zandikaa Thats pretty much what happens when you dispute false allegations. Mr Beast still has Coffezilla's and Legal Eagles videos and criticisms to address
@@longjimthealmighty You know just as well as we do that that debunking Dogpack will put Beast in a better light because Dogpack's entire thing is Beast accusations.
I dont fault Dogpack really. He is a disgruntled employee that wanted fame.
But Rosanna? She was one of the top youtubers and to se her go down this rabbit hole just because she rescents Mr Beast over her beign edited out of Beast Games #3??? THAT IS SO LOW AND PETTY! She changed her whole persona just for this revenge. That to me is so sad.
When Dogpack came out with his first video I was on his side, but as the next few videos came out something about them rubbed me the wrong way. But no matter what kind of person dogpack is, he was the tipping point that started this whole exposing fiasco.
41:20 does anyone have any evidence of the original PewDiePie clip. I'd like to believe you but it's weird you showed evidence of manipulation every time except for here.
God forbid I ask for evidence of EVERYTHING. I just think it's odd he'd show every piece of evidence besides that so I was wondering if anyone knew what video the clip was from that dogpack used.
Nah, he turned his back on Jimmy after Dawson’s second video. He reacted to it live, at first saying “what’s the problem? Jake could leave at any point”, then noticed he was getting tons of pushback from his chat and later in the video said “hmm, no, actually, that is messed up”, then made the mogul mail video saying he couldn’t support Jimmy anymore
@jonathanjohnson4594 Yeah, but I'm pretty sure Rosanna didn't have loli plastered in her living room. It's quite different to somebody who loves loli sharing that pic and somebody who is just stupid.
@@Spamtonontoilet_562 Watched the video and yeah, meat riding is crazy. A lot of the things debunked are negligible. It's about ethics. Dogpack has messed up a LOT in terms of false allegations, and that isn't okay, but most of the things he has said is rooted in reality (yes, even the Ivanka thing. Accusing somebody of being a pedophile when you have no proof is never okay, but we can't discredit the fact that Ava shared that image BELIEVING she was 13). Think about how much has come out SINCE his video that has verifiable proof. We now have evidence that Beast has been doing shady crypto things for example and also not paying people in charity videos.
i might not trust dogpack, but how about coffezilla. mrbeast is at the same level as logan paul, probably worse with how much audience he scammed for his crypto shit.
Even coffeezilla said there’s no proof that Jimmy did any of the crypto stuff and that it wasn’t the people around him. You’re still going to find him guilty until proven innocent? You’ve learned nothing from this drama
It makes no sense debunking Airrack so harshly when Mack were in his videos and obviously knew and now working for MrBeast expecting everything to be legit there
Wow soggy. All your integrity went out the window. In your knees for Mr beast. Lotteries are not ok when aimed at kids. Lost all respect for you and unsubscribed
Translation: I ate up DogPack’s lies and my ego can’t take finding out I allowed myself to be so easily fooled so I’m just going to stick my fingers in my ears and go on the offensive instead
@@nineexists6621 mate, what you've described is making a pre-judgement. Prejudice, as they say. A lot of societies issues stem from this way of thinking
@@nineexists6621 But u just said u didn;t see it, because if u did u'd know soggy literally shows dogpack FAKED evidence to lie about mrbeast doing illegal lotteries
@@nineexists6621I have an insane idea for you. Watch the video before you make your verdict. It’s like saying you don’t like celery because your friend says he doesn’t like celery.
@@Ablonorid so im not allowed to make judgements based on what I see? Its not like i just decided that thats all I'll judge on, im just putting out how I feel not having seen it yet.
Literally, this feels so bought out, I'll watch the full thing later, but based solely on what I'm seeing without watching it, its hella suspicous, even got the real mr beast to respond.
I mean for the cgi claims dogpack isn’t really wrong. The pit I think he’s referring to the one that show in the small clip. Dogpack never said the buses were cgi or that the train was cgi. He said the shot of the wheels moving (buses)was fake and the train tracks were fake. (Idk why u didn’t show the clip of him saying that)That shredder dogpack shows is cgi. The one he shows is very different from the one u show.
@ I never said show what they are doing in the start. I’m saying why use cgi on a clip at the start when u can just use the clip from the footage u recorded. again read my comments.
@@pariahfnm3365 why would people stick around to watch the rest of a vid if they show them doing what's in the title at the start. I would stop watching
@ what r u on abt? There is no difference in viewership if u show the actual clip. Just showing the clip saves him more time than to cgi a whole new scene for no real reason
@@pariahfnm3365 Yeah I prolly would so viewers watch the video longer to see the real thing, is it scummy to want to have the viewer to watch more of the video to get higher views? I don't think so but I could see why people would think it is. it's not faking a (part of the) video though
@ did u just not read my comment? Like I said I disagree with the claim of cgi’ing a clip equals a fake video. But dogpack is gunna use it as oh he faked a part of the video so by technicality the video (at least a part) is fake. Maybe read my comment next time?
@ that is faking lol. Me personally I’ve always thought the “cgi=fake videos” argument was dumb but technically u r faking part of ur vid so in dogpacks mind its faking a video. All of those clips dogpack used was cgi and the ones soggy gives explanations on are either out of context or just flat out wrong
But dogpack used that as claims that his videos were fake while they weren't and in the interviews they talk about the cgi on the pit being for safety openly
i never supported mrbeast dont get me wrong. But something about dogpack juts rubbed me the wrong way. im so glad i have a valid reason to hate this "perfect angel"
Dude people are talking about how much they hate how Jimmy act “his stare is so fake” “he has no joy behind his eyes” but dogoack has been way worse from his first video.
This video literally focuses on Dogpack for the most part and tries to half heartedly dismiss the actual allegations against mrbeast by picking only the errors dogpack made and address those.
Feels like mrbeast set you up to this, especially when you were leaked that call with dogpack begging not to get fired from the company. Mrbeast commenting is the cherry on top.
You are a cheap shill and nothing more. Also stop changing the title like a view hungry goblin.
Wow imagine that, a video exposing Dogpack mostly consists of talking about Dogpack. So shocking! He also addressed most of Dogpack's fundamental claims, he didn't nitpick errors.
@@Queef_Stormdude fuck the situation who tf are you?? I saw a comment for 5 hours ago and another one 15 minutes ago and you have 100+ comments on this channel don't have anything better to do with your life than these redditor replies!?
This is the comment equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going ALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU. Grow tf up dude. You’re just embarrassed to find out you allowed yourself to be so easily fooled by DogShart404. You’re going to be wrong about people sometimes. Get used to it.
@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms why would he raise legitimate claims? because there is ALREADY hard proof out there that he is guilty of them. Paying one guy to agree with them changes nothing except make him seem more objective and unbiased. Again I am not saying for sure that he was paid off, but I would not be surprised in the slightest if he was
@aram00001 I called you obtuse because you're pushing the narrative that Soggy made this video in defense of MrBeast rather than in opposition of Dogboy when literally anyone with the slightest understanding of the context of this video can prove that wrong.
Yet when Dogboy tries pressuring Soggy into making a video against MrBeast, nobody cares, but when Soggy makes his video wronging Dogboy, people start pushing this stupid argument and buy it.
And if MrBeast DID pay Soggy to make this, why would Soggy downright admit that Jimmy committed an illegal lottery that someone could face legal charges for? That's a complete break in promise if that was the case.
You're not proving a point, you're being disingenuous by pushing a false narrative.
@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms also im wondering how mr beast is going to dodge the coffeezilla video that basically shows he made tens of millions of dollars from crypto rug pulling. the coffeezilla bullet is not one that you can dodge lol.
@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms cant believe you are deliberately obtuse enough to think that if mr beast orchestrated a hit piece against his critic he wouldn't tell the creator to hit him on the most obvious mistakes to give the video an ounce of credibility and objectivity
@@nineexists6621 Are you stupid? Yeah obviously he got info only mrbeast employees could know BECAUSE HE WAS IN CONTACT WITH DUSTIN, he literally says it in the video. is it so crazy to think mrbeast left a comment maybe because this is the first creator not mindlessly slandering him in the past 4 months? Also taking that description seriously is f*ck*ng ret*rded wow
@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms except somehow he got a bunch of info only mr beast's team could provide whereas far more credible sources haven't, and he got a response from the mr beast account, despite them completely dodging all of the actually important allegations, not to mention his desscription literally says $1 detective vs. $1,000,000 detective.
Ah yes, the video he's being paid to make is the video that he not only criticized Dogboy, but also criticized MrBeast for Lunchly, Crypto scams, and well as the 1st illegal lottery. Stop being so deliberately obtuse.
Honestly didn't expect dogpack to be exposed, but eh the world continues to move and this will be over in like a year and everyone will be focused on the next big thing or exposé, as we all have done in the past and definitely in the future too.
And everyone will have learned nothing and absolutely crucify the next big creator who has accusations made against them before they hear both sides of the story
If someone had war crimes committed against them, would they really make a joke about it?
Either way, it absolutely cannot. Something cannot be a joke and a fact at the same time.
EDIT: OK, this guy’s going to keep editing this as he watches the video, and just adding more poo to the toilet, so I will be doing the same.
Dogpack hasn’t accused MrBeast of war crimes, but the entire commentary community has, and Dogpack has said nothing about it. It falls on him.
He titled the video something along the lines of “exposing MrBeast for secret recording”. He’s at best a clickbaiter, or at worst a scumbag liar trying not to be sued.
8:42 This man was absolutely not hurt mentally or financially by his completely anonymous voice being used in a video. He did not lose any relationships. No one heard his voice changed voice in a youtube video about Mr. Beast, realized for 100% sure that it was him, and then immediately cut ties because he dared to slander the great Mr. Beast.
@ do you want to know the reason why he never played the recording in this video that was supposedly seen right through? Because if you go and rewatch it it is incredibly obvious that no one would ever be able to identify you through it.
@@ukulelevillain4170 totally bro people cant pick up voices through crappy poorly implemented filters and spread that to co-works and associates def not especially not on a viral video.
@@intothevoid9831 He did. Its so obvious to any human being on this earth that no one would ever be harmed by their voice being run through a filter and played in a youtube video.
Not only was dogpack404 a disgruntled employee at mr beast's company since day 1 but he also responsable for all of the predatory "mr beast is evil" videos by slop commentary channels, and it's all thanks to his lies... Thse viewers seriously servers better
Also i pretty much believe soggy and thank him for uncovering this life ruining epidemic and if anyone tell me in the comments tell me that he's in the wrong then please keep it to yourself
but... he isnt? this video doesnt ever say that, its just represented to prove that mrbeast is not as bad as said in the worst cases. its probably paid for by mrbeast, can be disproven in many instances and is overall not very good.
I know it’s easier to insist that Jimmy is still evil than it is to consider you’ve been drinking from DogPack’s meat this whole time for nothing, but if you can learn to admit to yourself when you’ve been brain dead and gullible you can really grow as a person. Or just do what you’re doing now and learn nothing so the next guy who lies to you will have an equally easy time fooling you. Up to you.
Your proofs are just shit even more shit than Dogpack yet you claim you are legit then where proof real ones with reciepts ? if DOGPACK is liar etc why no one suing him ? or proving him wrong ? Why jimy cousin not attacking him with legal power ? sure dogpack liar and piece of shit right ?
Just because one person is bad, doesn't make the other person suddenly good. Everything Dogpack said is still valid, and to be honest, I'd be more concerned about a BILLIONAIRE manipulating his fans than a literal nobody.
@DDArtsArts I don't like any of the people involved? I've always thought dogpack was weird ever since his first video with how unprofessionally he was making the allegations, and made his allegations seem more like content than a serious exposé. But if I had to pick the lesser of two evils, I'd pick dogpack because at least he's not a global brand.
@@DDArtsArts I mean, I watched it all. I'm guessing you lack media comprehension if you can't figure out that somebody can make mistakes and be deceptive WHILE also making valid claims in other statements? Regardless of what Dogpack has forged, it has done good in the end by giving others the courage to speak out. Does it muddy the waters? Yes. But so does this video by not addressing the other research and follow ups that dogpack has done when things have come to light to be false.
Tbh, so what if he's a disgruntled employee? Mr Beast shouldn't be a corpo scumbag scamming and deceiving his child audience. I'd take disgruntled shithead that's pretty much a literal who and only known for bitching about Mr beast than Youtube's golden boy who was best friends with a creep and KNEW she was a creep and STILL allowed her to work in an environment that gave her access to children.
@@invisibilius1978 I watched the entire damn thing, sweetums. Everything dogpack said is rooted within reality, and has lead to more allegations and truth coming out regardless if he's involved or not. For example: the crypto stuff.
they're both terrible people, not a lot of things both sides said are valid, and both are manipulative no matter how you look at it. i don't care about comparing who is more right, both are evil.
I think that this video would be better left to the dustbins of history, Dawson is a piece of shit, but all this video is gonna achieve is that people who previously believed him will now be back on team Beast and he will face even less consequences for the things he has actually done. Let's be realistic, most people are either too young or too stupid for the nuance necessary to hate both sides without it being spelled out for them, which you didn't.
@@freashapplesNothing. People just don’t like to have their beliefs challenged. Imagine you spent months believing a liar and hating the wrong guy only to find out how easily you were fooled? You’d be mad, and if you’re particularly pathetic, you’d blame the guy who revealed how gullible you really are for embarrassing you like that. Learn nothing, never take self-responsibility, and blame others, that’s how people like this work.
He’s not paid he literally exposed airrack who is a know friend of beast (I don’t like beast either) but I do like soggy and if you watch his other videos you know he is definitely not paid
@ hahahaha context matters... so posting photos of what he belives to be a kid IS the context to say he knew he's a pedophile. at not point did anyone say anything against pedophilia. this "context" you refer to does not exist
@@Austin252 mrbeast was literally in the chats while ava was openly sharing weird shit…how can you say he didn’t know about her behavior especially when they were best friends for literal decades??
That doesn’t mean he knew that ava was a pedo. One evidence is not enough to believe “oh, my friend is an a fucking pedo” Also trump was not a minor. yall gotta use actual common sense
@ its not fake or photoshoped. but ava got it from a thread on 4chan or some shit, saying it was a 13 yr old half naked. that is a crime. even if its not a real child
@ mr beast was in the same chat when ava put an image they described as being a child. so he knew ava was looking up and sharing what they all beleived to be cp.
sooo mr, beast was the victim in all of it? like, except the shithole that is the MAN Ada/chris. he seems to be a good guy with a good track record that evil, i dont have any other way to describe, evil people want to take down. why the hell first world people, instead of been happy for toher, want to destroy them
have you never really struggle? do you really have such LOW morals? why?
the only true thing i cant accept is the lunchy and logan paul collaborationm logan paul is another shithole even with his popularity it should be avoided, that is something jimmy really mess up
While i agree with the critic about dogpack, it was very one sided, any situation that dogpack was bad/wrong you completely exonerated mr beast:
-Mr beast was young so its fine that he hired a sex offender (ignoring that later the guy appeared in a mr beast video with his face hidden and with a sudonim, at least impling that then he knew the truth and didnt fire him) -Torturing someone and pressuring them to stay because of money is bad but its wrong for a random friend to call it a warcrime -The lotteries were legal (even thou he used misleading info like: someone in the next 5 minutes gets a prize then 7 minutes later he gives it) -Mack didnt have a mansion so its fine that mr beasts own employee gets preferencial treatment (like getting a free car and competing in multiple challenges) -Dogpack is a liar so the things about Locoya Hill arent true
The video should have talked about what mr beast did wrong in every situation instead of just debunking dockpack, otherwise the "both are bad people" angle doenst work when one guy did a ilegal lottery that is comom to not know about and he is maybe a crypto scammer while the other guy is a disgruntled employe that lied about all but one thing
The accusation board shows my point perfectly, it makes it look like mr beast only did a illegal lottery
@@avalope You know how the internet works, if this video gets popular it will become the new truth and then because the video does minimal reference to mr beast’s possible wrong doings, critcism against him will be disregarded, because the main mr beast critic was a liar, im not saying for the vídeo to say that mr beast is bad, just to at least acknolage that the debunked situations arent complet lies. Plus jimmy having hired a sex offender, competition being openly rigged in the boys vs girls vídeo and lying about going to an isolated abandoned city are all confirmed acusations made by dogpack coincidentaly omited in the acusation board to make it seam that jimmy is less guilty (if the reason for delaweres name is valid then só should these)
@@avalope dude are you blind?, iliegal lotery, torutrue, and now this shit about healthier product, a associete with 2 big scamers for the same product, mondy cheese, crypto scams, i give a shit about dogpack he only open the pandora box, even in the investigation touch nothing about ilegal loterys and aloot of another allegation, mistake happens 1 time but for ilegal loterys happen aloot, he sell a brand say all is real when not that false advertisement, he know perfectly what is doing and just try to shield with "donation and charity" you know what, that what rich people do for dont pay taxes, again i dont give a shit abotu dogpack he just give the initial momentun to the snowball, and even is just a 10% of all allegation are true is enought maybe no for jail but for have some chargerse and fees
MrBeast has made many mistakes, just like everyone else has in the world. but its innocent until proven guilty. and making things up to try to make people believe mrbeast is guilty. when there is legitimate reasons to believe, is also a big problem. edit: MrBeast mistakes just happen to be pretty harmful to others
he never said it was fine. -he said he was young and inexperienced so there was no malicious intent. -warcrime its literally not a warcrime. -MrBeast made bad decisions for the lotteries - employees are allowed to receive benefits others are not given. especially if an employee is more valuable to a company/team. - he said at least in the beginning that dogpack being a liar buts all other accusations against mrbeast in jeopardy. (he added ? to the remaining accusations)
The video was about dogpack maliciously spreading misinformation online. And to try to find the truth amongst the lies of dogpack. this should be a reminder that people will do many things for fame,money, and revenge. There already are tons of videos exposing MrBeast. like the coffeezilla video that just came out. and the video is already 1.5 hours long. it would taken him more time to talk about related topics to what this specific video is about. Fact Checking happens all the time in media. just search up" fact checking insert politician name here
I can logically and easily dissect this video from the first minute until the last and prove that this video proves literally nothing. this guy is using 20% absolute facts that prove dogpack is shady (which we already knew) and then just makes it seem like because this 20% is true every other part of the 80% is all rainbows and roses.
No paycheck, just fed information and given a little push in the right direction. Mr beast is smart enough to know that if he posts his own video debunking the minutiae and then stretching the more believable debunk points from those over everything, people will see through all of the specificities and understand his motive; to clear his name at all costs and discredit dogpack. But if a smaller, YouTuber seemingly disconnected from him, like soggy here, is simply 'allowed' to discover all the favourable resources and prompts (as well as being flown out to North Carolina, perhaps by beast himself just to 'help' with his independent investigations) to use that same technique for him, as well as being someone with enough emotional and spiteful motivation through his interactions with the certainly irritable dogpack to make the video himself, then the same arguments in the same video framework will be seen, and will appear much more organic. Mr beast and his team have simply adjusted the conditions, and allowed nature to take its course.
Yeah bro I feel so manipulated and I swore to myself never to be manipulated again from now on if I see a expose video I am not trusting them nor the person they are accusing
I’m glad someone went into this. The dust definitely hasn’t settled on what Mr Beast is or isn’t, but I immediately hated how much people 100% trusted the allegations when the immediate evidence suggested dogman had something to gain (popularity, a channel, and possibly revenge) and may not have been trustworthy (one of Mr Beast’s employees explained that dogman had only worked a couple weeks and was clearly lying about some behind-the-scenes facts he shared).
At the end of the day, allegations like this should be treated seriously, but not just immediately trusted.
Why I feel like over this everyone will forget the actual claim's that have been confirmed like him faking his videos and having fake signature's? no one is perfect but instead of accepting this I feel like the attention will be now turned into to one thing and forget another one just like how internet forget all of these claims and dogpack once Lunchly drama came out.
I've seen a few videos uploaded within hours apart, some of which have never even covered the Mr Beast scandal, but now suddenly uploading within hours apart, with similar motive and strategy (expose dogpack while mentioning Mr Beast allegations, so they look like auto exoneration for each Mr Beast scandal). Seems very weird these channels have full researched videos uploaded within hours apart (regardless of their length), almost like Mr Beast team handpicked certain channels and fed them info, but this could be just a coincidence). And unlike 10 minute videos, I saw ones like 30 minutes or 1 hour+ long. They are even outperforming other channels that just release 10 minute videos. Almost feels like there are certain information they were fed and had to cover. The general tactic seems to be find something dogpack lied/exaggerated, then make it seem like Mr Beast is auto exonerated from that entire scandal/topic.
It is weird to see channels that never covered it now upload videos, some 30min long, some hour+ long, all have detailed dogpack research, all uploaded within hours apart (despite their different video lengths). Ofc, channels that already were supporting Mr Beast also uploaded as well. Almost feels like at least some of these channels were contacted by Mr Beast or his team to orchestrate this.
After noticing this, I remembered we do have evidence that Mr Beast was going to attack dogpack's character so I'm guessing this is step 1.
@@Phintan9 I mean what he said was correct is a valid reason as far as we know, but what the fuck does "He said that he was not not defending mr beast in the video " is going to prove?! if anyone is truthful just because he said he does this or that, there would be no drama now, would there ?
I would say some of the allegations are true but around the 3rd video DogPack made thats when things started getting less about facts and more about crazy stuff that gets views
And Jimmy aka MrBeast I would say is mostly innocent
Hahahahhahahahhah no shit he lied. Who goes on such a warpath for being fired after three weeks. Was this his first job ever? Does he know that almost EVERY other industry has a probation period of 1-6 months? Is he stupid?
I'm sorry, but you already lost me at one of the first sentences being "Mr Beast being scrutinized is bad for the philanthropy." That's your edit placing that there. That's you priming the audience for an opinion. Yeah Dogpack isn't unbiased (obviously), but neither clearly, neither are you. Mr Beast doesn't do philanthropy - he exploits a broken system for clout and money.
He didn't say that, what he said was Dogpack's video hurting philantrophy by MrBeast, which is true. The guy discredits many philanttophy done by MrBeast by taking things out of context, or discrediting it with very poor statements such as "cgi". Mr Beast does philantrophy, and have contributed many good deeds. Its undeniable even if Jimmy wasn't a good person at all
@@gewnurbI’m sorry to just randomly barge into this conversation. This was of course not the main point of your comment but don’t you believe that the writers of said economy books have a certain interest in telling everyone that our current system is the only functioning economy. They profit from the current system as well and would lose if a fairer system would be implemented. Also book publishing is an expensive endeavour and so big publishing houses (that again have an interest in perpetuating the current system) are needed for a book to become popular. So perhaps there are other non-mainstream economy books that aren’t as biased to the forgone conclusion of these other books. Just food for thought. Have a nice day : )
@@gewnurb charity and help can't be done without cameras rolling too. there's evidence that his " philanthropy " is all bs, look at the people who did the eye surgery, they haven't got paid for 2 years when they started speaking online about it. the videos are heavily edited to look favorable to his business.
so, do you think the people mrbeast has helped would be better off with or without his help? it's not like he's got the power to overthrow the world economy and make it fair for everyone (which, if you've read an economy book, you can realize it makes no sense and isn't possible), so the next best thing to do is to help the people that were born without the resources to follow their dreams, but no, since a system set 400 years ago causes people to be poor, anyone trying to help those poor people is automatically a bad person
you're still a mr beast glazer. just from the fact that he is associate with that scumbag Logan and KSI is enough proof to what kind of person he is. period.
@@BasherBeans who cares if it's " marketing " He is literally the most successful person on youtube, and still chooses to colab with that piece of shit.
thanks for this video. i was in full support of dogpack at first, but after this i think my opinion has changed. i still dont like or support mrbeast, but i can take some of this stuff off the list of things i dont like. it was very nice seeing another perspective that used real evidence.
As much as I appreciate the evidence there’s still a lot Mr beast NEEDS to answer to dog pack sucks now but Mr beast shouldn’t get away Scott free where’s your video Mr beast
54:22 well if they got forced off the raft for safety, the video should have ended, challenge failed, they did not spend 7 days at sea. I still heavily think that he manipulates results for better videos
@ I wanted transparency and for them to have you know actually failed the challenge and returned home when the lightning storm hit rather than deceptively lie about that they failed. Stop defending scummy behavior
@@gewnurb those are completely different scenarios, mrbeast’s yacht detour wasn’t mentioned anywhere at all in the video, there was no disclosure or disclaimer about the fact that they left the raft. Because in the challenge guidelines they weren’t supposed to leave the raft
Alright, so instead of spending 120 hours at a raft at sea, they spent 119 hours at a raft at sea and 1 in an torn down random boat. You're the kind of person to say "erm, you didn't give him $50000, only $49999"
Can't wait for pegasus to switch up again and milk this until the utters turn to dust, great video btw Edit: Im baffled that hes just a butt hurt jerk that was angry he got fired and exposed someone for their own selfish gain, but with that being said, we shouldn't take off all the light on mr beast, he still needs to be talked abt
Let me just get this right. Why is a guy refuting evidence on behalf of MrBeast? I mean, this just seems weird to me, that this guy randomly begins going to war for MrBeast. Furthermore, Why the heck is MrBeast in this commentsection, like bro, respond to the claims yourself, instead of hiding behind someone else, doing the debunking? Or am i missing something here?
@ we don’t have to guess an investigation was underway on him so he had to remain silent. Now he should be able to speak unless another investigation occurs
@ I hope you watched the video. The only reasons soggy got all the info was because jimmy wasn’t responding. Jimmy didn’t tell his producer to give the info to soggy. The producer just got sick of jimmy not responding so he gave the info to soggy as someone who would actually spread the truth. As to why specifically jimmy isn’t responding despite his employees, friends, and viewers wanting him to? We can only guess.
@@PlatinumSceptile Just because it's his job, doesn't mean he's fit to talk on behalf of someone else. That's my hole point. Would it not be better if MrBeast actually responded, rather than responding through some proxy YouTuber? I don't have anything against him (Soggy), and obviously a lot of his debunking has some merrit to it, I'm just curious as to why, MrBeast and his team, if the evidence was so unrefutable wouldn't just respond, instead of feeding this guy information.
While Mr. Beast SHOULD respond. THIS DOESN'T MEAN UNDER THE HOOD LOL.
Could it be? Sure.... like how Dogpack said everything could "allegedly" be true. However, he spent a lot more time actually LOOKING into his crap and sorting interviews. Did you see the way dogpack talked to him? That's not something an innocent man says
because thats his job. hes an investigative journalist youtuber. his job is to do investigations on this stuff whether hes asked to or not. and unlike dogpack he actually takes it seriously.
@@generights Who is? I'm not saying he's clean or anything, i just think MrBeast should respond, since he's in the middel of all this, instead of some random guy on YT, probably being fed information from the MrBeast team indirectly.
@@JulieWooly-pn6tx So i'm missing something here? I'm just questioning the exact thing you're doing right now. Arguing on behalf of someone else... Would it not be better, if it came straight from the source?
How did you get all these connections? How did MrBeast official channel comment on a video with 244,000 views a day after it comes out? You made it so blatantly obvious that you worked with MrBeast to make this video, MrBeast definetaly paid you to make this slop. Which immedietaly sparks a conflict on interests, now we know why MrBeast hasn't been responding, he was commissioning third party responses, as to not draw attention to the drama for people who were unaware of it, only people who already know about the drama will see this video, where as, if he released a video on his channel, everyone would see it, and more eyes would be put on the drama, very smart.
@@a_skellingtonthere are literal mr beast employee in the video (listen I don’t like mr beast either) but soggy cereal is definitely not paid he did a several part series on airrack last year who is beasts friend
trust me, there is definitely a random mrbeast working watching every video about the controversy the second it releases, if something came out defending mrbeast, he would know
Half this is just disingenuous and unreasonable at times false corrections, kids gambling is still bad, only finalizing promises due to backlash is still bad, making a poor person do things for the camera and labelling it a war crime then doing an ACtUaLlY doesn't make it any less bad, and unironically shame on you for trying to diminish the real bad that did happen and the lies that were actually spread in mr beast videos
There’s a LOT of things that I didn’t find to be true with dogpack, and Rosanna, (many of which being the “very old” stuff) since both had reason to have bias and anger, but there’s a lot of bad that I do believe to be true. -philanthropic lies, cgi-reused clips to make look of doing more than done (not much a big deal other than lying), team trees/seas which is technically good, but overall just a big “feeling of helping” than actually helping. And most importantly the recently uncovered not paying of surgery bills, it’s all just done for image than to really be good, “want to be good, go do it NOT for a video” (an extra note that “yes good IS being done, but only the right good for the camera”) -gambling, I think he has had cases of blatantly promoting/encouraging gambling type behavior, matching his possible own addiction with that and crypto -items, most of his items have been fine, like toys, they just toys it’s fine… the chocolate was starting to cross the line, and the new recipe crossed it, with lunchly finally being the breaking point as it is blatant copied crap with other YouTubers who are NOT a good image -some issues with safety which may be more “overdoing it” with the videos/beast games, and not being prepared for what is needed to do something of that scale. it’s mrbeast’s recent actions that have caused me to stop watching rather than what dogpack “exposed” as I personally dislike many of his collaborations and new personality.
agree with everything besides the signatures, a signature made by another person will never hold the same value as a signature made by the person you value, because signatures are not valued on anything besides the personal value of the person who signed it.
1:00:46 of course it devalues the tshirt. the only value in the shirt is if Mr beast himself signed it, which is what people would believe seeing his signature. maybe it's not illegal, but it's definitely scammy
I appreciate your search for the truth Soggy, great video! I didn't agree with some of the things that were presented; for example the NDAs Who cares if he broke an NDA? The point he was making is that the challenges (like the underwater one), are not as authentic as they try to make them appear. The potential threat for injury is in part what keeps viewers engaged. So the point is it's not real as they try to depict, which makes it fraudulent in my opinion.
Next, the signing of the T-shirts; there's no possible way that you could honestly agree with that? Nobody wants a signature from somebody that's not actually that person. It's disingenuous, it's fake, it's a lie. I don't care what you read, it's probably propaganda by the print on demand companies when artists sell prints and they claim to be hand signed but it's actually robot CNC machine signing it with a pen or pencil for them. I find it to be a deplorable thing to do.
And regarding Jake Wedel; Y'all seem to lack an understanding of human psychology based on the way you presented it. Comparing it to the challenge when it was the guy and the girl is nowhere near the same, like at all. Humans are social creatures, and our powerful brains require other humans (aka culture) to guide our actions so we know how to properly orientate ourselves in the world. Complete and total isolation is definitely psychologically challenging to say the least, and to deprive that brain of sleep at the same time?! That is definitely psychological torture.
However, I do think he has no ground to stand on because it was all voluntary. That being said, he probably has a personality type that is high in trait agreeableness, which would coincide with his self proclaimed feeling like he had no choice.
Keep doing what you do Soggy because the truth is an antidote to a lot of people's suffering. 💯🙌
So you are not gonna talk about the video you deleted for spreeding fake information about WestJett. How you went behind youre friends back and made a negative video about them while they are supporting you. Man milked AirRack and now is the peack of Slop. Yayyyyyyyyyy. Well made Soggy.
@@DontkilLkong I just told you the "other" youtubers was WestJett and Pegasus was a part of it. And why aren't you telling me the allegations Pegasus spread, is it because there aren't any? And you made it up? Pls you aren't making any sense.
@@DontkilLkong Its not criticizing if your telling lies. And Pegasus did not spread any false allegations, the video was about him milking the Mr. beast drama. What false allegations? I would rly like to know. And yeah soggy deleted the video, and what other youtubers, WestJett? Did you even watch his video, Pegasus was inn it and defended him self. What are you talking about, and pls tell what false allegations Pegasus was saying.
@ what about soggy criticizing Pegasus was false Pegasus is a low effort slop and milking drama channel that gets things wrong a lot watch stuckys videos on megasus
@ Pegasus knowing spread False allegations and soggy only deleted the video because of other YouTubers NOT Pegasus Pegasus is a huge clown and deserved the criticism
@@DontkilLkong Pegasus is a clown? Soo soggy spreads false information about a supporting friend, calls him a slop channel, and he is the clown? I don't care that this is a different subject this is the following video after he deleted the last one, a explanation should be needed. Why are you defending him?
54:22 again, the whole premise of the video was that they were engaging in a risky activity, and whisking away to safety behind the scenes makes your audience believe you were in a much larger risk than you actually were. aka faking
i dont think anyone woudda been happy if they died or they were forced to stay on in dangerous conditions. People talk abt their dangerous conditions as a big thing
You know what? I'm no longer believing any accusation against any Youtuber, EVER. Nope.
Normally I wait for docs or whatever to leak or release, then judge from there. Nope, I'm just gonna assume they're ALL crafted up to slander, or have context spliced out, or other faking tricks.
Nope, I'm not believing a single allegation no matter how solid the evidence looks, since it will likely turn out to be overdone dogpiling hoaxes.
I don't watch or support him. Still won't. But, just, no, I'm done with this year of accusing.
I swear I had a slight feeling they were lying bcs rosanna pansino is the most obsessed mrbeast hater ever and way back then she would make false accusations
I've seen DogPack404 in videos with Rosanna Pansino that aren't related to the MrBeast controversy (like baking together). It seems like they are either close friends or FWB. Could be understandable if this was true, they both hate MrBeast.
so you only debunked minor stuff, the obvious bait cp stuff (useless american slander) and barely debunked any of the other major mrbeast shady stuff brought up and talked about by dawson such as beastgames, shady selling/lottery methods, behaviour and hiring at the company, while at the same time acting like you're inbetween and just exposing both dogpack and mrbeast. how did you get the audio of dogpack being fired? how is it that youve been welcomed with open arms at the company and were able to interrogate some of the most important members EXCLUSIVELY on dogpack and the weddle stuff, but you couldnt ask them anything about the serious allegations made about the company? mrbeast even commented on the video and you go as far as saying dogpack should be sued for defamation lmao, deffo shady shit going on, you probably argued with dogpack and have been on him to try and eat off every forced accusation he's made (yes he has forced accusations but that doesnt change the fact he's been one of the first by far to expose much of the sh1t going on behind the scenes) and you're probably collaborating with the beast team which has been tyring to slander dogpack in every way possible even hiring private investigators (you are playing perfectly in the role by lying on him being untrustworthy when the majority of the claims he made, especially the fundamental ones, are indeed backed up by evidence, and when they arent he takes accountability for it) to diminish his credibility.
actual sad shit, and you got all the other sheep in the comment actually believing ur bs graph of false accusations which makes it seem like youve just shown them all on the screen while you're only listing absolutely minor points of barely any relevance 🤣 what journalism lmao, this is a sh1tshow
also the part where you claim he has a mrbeast obsession is the vilest shit ive seen in a while. you're not a "controlled" response to dogpack, you mrbeast's response to dogpack
@@DontkilLkong how is the CP relevant? He mentioned it being dropped on the group chat, not mrbeast possessing it directly. His critique was of the the working space and various creeps in it (which there isn't any shortage of lol, ava Tyson, locoya, take into account adderal being thrown around lmao)
Also idgaf abt what they sent to each other informally, I care only about actual scum practice and abuses, such as adderall, locoya, illegal and shady lotteries and sale tactics, beastgames, ecc.
All other claims is just additional irrelevance, and not by chance this "soggy" goofball only covers those lmao, irrelevant takes
I sure hope this guy doesn't get a 304 girlfriend, lame tattoos, a p3do mustache and throws his fanbase under the buss just so he can get acceptance from the far left
Lunchly is just YouTuber lunchables and everybody knows that they’re bad and Prime has been out for long enough that if you don’t have an opinion on it by now it doesn’t matter to you.
I came to this video very sceptical, but it did convince me to the point of unsubscribing to dogpack. HOWEVER, I also won't be taking the Mr. Beast employees at their word, my point in this is the Kara part when they talk about "no does not mean no".
She talks about how you can bring solutions to whatever problem working partners may have to not work with what Beast wants to so, when what's written is completely different.
What's written is saying to go around and find someone withtin the same company that they can more easily "manipulate" with talks about how they can tell their children they were in a Mr Beast video or are fans themselves. Even going as far as to push to managers. And that's what she is saying she wrote with Jimmy.
I like how everyone had a different red flag for dogpack, but everyone just ignored the biggest from the start
He was on weed when he made that video, doing drugs is already a massive no no in my view, i honestly trust no one who does that, and making a video that should have been heavily researched while high is just, not a good look
I am someone who hates the idea of doing drugs, smoking, or even drinking, so when i hear that someone made a video like that, while high, it just makes me not want to watch it
Is your brain that stupid to think if most of dogpack's allegations are false, and dogpack has been manipulative, then mr. beast must be good. How about the fact both can be scummy? Life isn't black and white.
why u dic riding mr beast? both of them are scumbags (kris the degen tyson, getting kids hooked on gambling, real pump and dump crypto fruad are real hard truths. you cant hand wave that away)......also back to making slop?werent you crying about everyone making mr beast videos. wow very original! its different when you do it right?
He's dickriding him becuase he is fighting back Dogback's various claims? He's not saying Mr.Beast is good. Its just that most of Dogback's claims against him are largely untrue.
It’s wild you’re comparing soggy making 1 1h30min long video with all new information, high effort investigating, flying to the US for interviews … with braindead slop channels who just repeat the same misinformation over the span of like 20 stretched out videos. Get a brain 💀💀
dude had one good video and it went to his head. having a dude crying about being a "warcrime" room while making....$416 dollars AN HOUR! in a day of doing nothing he made more than i did in 3 months of waiting tables! and he was acting like a wimp. his greed kept in that room, he could leave at any time. anyone want to pay 10k a day to sit in a room?
bro thought thought a billion dollar company was gonna give him a second chance after fucking up 3 weeks in? an then tried to discredit them? this should have been obvious that he was lying
One thing, you kinda became a hypocrite by bashing Jake for only telling them that it was ai generated after the clip but then you said that you didn’t actually report them to the fbi after you showed that you filed the report. To be fair it is in the middle of the video though.
Soggy reporting them to the fbi was literally meaningless, jake playing an entire defamatory recording on mrbeast is completely different, what is this take?
amazing video!! how you uncovered all this and actually backed it up is incredible 😮 watched it both on luhrix’s and nicholas deorio’s streams. this video makes me want to go to shower jimmy with as much support as possible! everything that came out just makes him seem like a good guy. think imma go sub.
with AI voices nowadays, dont believe any of it, from either side.
I've seen someone deep fake me on Daddy D as revenge porn. Dudes got a massive member so i dont get what their revenge plan was.
"Yeah here's his nudes" shows a deep fake of me on a porn star with a massive member
me "yeah thats me, with a 10" Johnson. Its true, i am that shredded too."
What i DO find funny is Jimmy hasnt spoken about any of these accusations in a video, addressed the media issues, the pdf stuff... but has time to comment on videos defending him within a few hours of it going up. Check bellow, he's there. I dont even need to look, he's in the comments of most "Mr best is innocent" videos.
Even though Dogpack is a fraud, Jimmy still has to own up for the other deceptive tactics he employs at MrBeast. Also, I’m 99% certain that MrBeast comment is not coming from Jimmy himself but rather one of your cronies.
Not even that deep into the whole drama but I found dogpack sus from the very beginning from what I seen, just really manipulative. Sad some actual lifes got destroyed so he gets internet fame. Imma go watch more of your videos and maybe subscribe, good work doing actual research.
@@DontkilLkong no, like the insane amount of manipulation tactics he used. Maybe you should actually read some comments under this instead of believing what you want to believe 🤨
Hey, just because Dogpack404 is not all he's cracked up to be, doesn't mean Mrbeast is an angel. I mean, Stalin fought Hitler but that doesn't mean Stalin was good...
Truly baffling how a majority of the internet chose to believe the absurd claims made by a random nobody who suddenly appeared out of thin air, who just so happened to have been fired from MrBeast's company not long before, and not the most rich and famous man on the platform who has built a squeaky clean reputation and has given so much to others. 2024 has truly exposed our need to take down anything and anyone, if it benefits us. MrBeast did the right thing being silent all this while. He knew that we'd eventually figure out that we were put on a wild goose chase. Truly embarrassing how we found reasons to attack and take down the man who has given so much to YouTube, and devalued his career over a random salty ex-employee. A lesson to all of us, to never take sides without understanding the full story.
I see quite a few people falling into this ideological trap, and it saddens me that we go in circles. Dogpack404 is certainly not a saint, and has manipulated to push his agenda, but that doesn't mean we should immediately discredit any and every allegation/problem that has backing against Mrbeast. Such as, several Beast Games contestants came out to speak about the inhumane conditions of the show, even some taking up lawsuits against him, AND someone being hospitalised for a week after a concrete piece of set crashed upon them. Not to mention the Lunchly scandals, or the blatant disregard of VERY serious allegations, nor the comment censorship that has been proven to be true many, many times. Both sides are quite diabolical, but to discover that one is bad and presume the other good is dangerous and we have already experienced this by assuming everything and anything Dog said was true. Although Dogpack404 is a manipulative and spiteful person, we still should hold everyone accountable, Mrbeast and Dogpack included, for we would be doing ourselves a great injustice not to.
these drams is the main reason why i live by the rule and i quote "there are 2 things in this world there are 2 thing in this world the one that our eye can see and the one our eye cant see and it is better if we do not know what our eye can see'' quote from a wise man
Hey quick question. So I’ve looked on the feastibles website and where they should say “exploitation free” on the website as stated on the Tony website, there is none of that found, with myself only finding that it’s definitely free of child labor, never once talking about slave labor. Now, I could be looking in the wrong place but here’s is what the mobile version of the website says about their ethical sourcing:
“WHAT IS FEASTABLES' ETHICAL SOURCING STRATEGY? - Feastables’ Ethical Sourcing Strategy seeks to get West African children out of farms and into schools. The Strategy is being actioned in three ways: · Helping farmers and their families earn a living income. · Investing in local communities, in children’s education and their wellbeing. · Ensuring farmers have access to skilled and mechanized labor to successfully operate their farms, without child labor. We’re working on a number of projects in West Africa. Watch this space – there is much more to come!”
I hope I’m wrong on this, but if this is true it could imply Feastible’s may utilize slave labor, despite your claims. If someone could help clarify it would be greatly appreciated!
47:58 I didn’t get an ad. I am convinced 2x speed removes ads except from the start and end of videos. Which is good for the viewer but not good for the YouTuber who isn’t getting mid roll ad money or watch time since that gets halved.
Dawson is hurting the philanthropy thats helping people? Like fiming a bunch of people who were already getting eye surgury? 1 or 2 Mrbeast videos probably cost as much to produce as his whole company has spent on both team trees and team seas
Dogpack and Mr Beast are still both bad, I don’t think anyone being investigated by coffeezilla and also having a 20 page lawsuit against him is much of a “good person” either
However I appreciate the journalistic integrity you have to still come out against dogpack even while it may be controversial or a hot topic 👏
been saying this for months lol, the first video was simply a bunch of unsubstantiated accusations and nonsense to add to the "illegal" lotteries thing which in itself was just an inexperienced mrbeast that didn't know about free entries, every other video after it is just a more and more desperate beg for clout
Journalism is a maze, packed with propaganda at every turn. I thought Dogpak’s reporting was the untouchable gold standard of unbiased truth—only to have it shattered by another video. Now, I’m convinced this video is the epitome of unbiased work. Am I stuck in some kind of twisted loop?!
Dog pack, Mr beast... Funny... Nr beast fakes his video.. everybody knows that now even bro didn't deny..and isn't dogpack the dude that used to work for Mr beast... He got fired and decided to expose them touche... Maybe they are actually both doing this for views.. remember how much kim Kardashian made from her tape just leaking
he didnt interupt the ceo the ceo stopped tlaking so he talked lo lfirst time eyah he interuptted but second time he didnt lol. Also if a ceo is being a douche u can itnerupt them if u want if u in a job interview and boss is a douche be a douche back dogpack a clown but that intro was weird.
For anyone wondering about the “Forging signatures“; MrBeast SPECIFICALLY said MULTIPLE TIMES that a random person from the team would sign the shirt. Signing „MrBeast“ is not the same as signing „Jimmy Donaldson“
My question is why did this completely unrelated guy debunk a defamation video about a company/person (months after it came out btw)?. It really doesn't make sense to me how it is profitable to not address the allegations. I despised both the man and the company of Mr Beast before the dogpack video and I will no matter because I hate that brainroted content but why did they let that happen 💀they even deleted comments and pretended nothing is wrong like I know the 8 yos don't care and wouldn't understand but even a single tweet would be enough. edit: 1:20:21 then why diddn't you address the allegations ? 😭That's on you for not standing up for you "beloved" company. What are you gonna do if another dogpack comes out? edit2: I'm sorry but if folks at MrBest think 40 yos, 50 yos and so on watch their videos they need to take a look at the mirror cuz nobody's buying that crap. Didn't they make a lucnchables clone that was targeted towards who again? Children who don't know better ? but this is dogpack's evil manipulation it's not like they've been targeting children for years right? 😭
omg. at this point im skeptical to every “truth” that comes out. so what if mr beast chose paying people to fire back against dogpack404 instead of sitting down and apologizing since we know this doesnt turn out the way intended most of the time for youtubers. it could all be just mr beast propoganda. also him commenting? finally taking accountability only for a video that supports him?? very sketchy. all i know is mr beast isnt a saint and not just a generous charity guy.
@@specticent he's not a saint but why isn't he a generous charitable guy? A 4 sec CGI means his all his videos are fake? Can you prove even HALF of his videos as fake when there's actual evidence people lives have been changed even if for clout? Just because he isn't as charitable as he claimed, doesn't mean he is NOT charitable. He's still doing better than most people ever will. You already claim this is "Mr beast propoganda" so I'm sure where your bias lies. Nobody in this situation is good, mr beast is bad, but dogpack404 is clearly worse.
Yo soggy, you should check out the allegations abt mr beast exaggerating his charity in his philanthropy channel (like pretending to build a hospital, building less than 100 wells, etc)
It’s funny because we used to look at people defending Mr. Beast and think they’re immature and now we think that people against mr beast are immature.
I literally said this when the video came out that dogpacks info was literally unconfirmed and heavily edited to seem real and I got slandered for it 😭I literally say in the same msg that I’m not defending mrbeast for all his actions like ppl just wanna be sheep and listen to whatever ppl say.
so you only debunked minor stuff, the obvious bait cp stuff (useless american slander) and barely debunked any of the other major mrbeast shady stuff brought up and talked about by dawson such as beastgames, shady selling/lottery methods, behaviour and hiring at the company, while at the same time acting like you're inbetween and just exposing both dogpack and mrbeast. how did you get the audio of dogpack being fired? how is it that youve been welcomed with open arms at the company and were able to interrogate some of the most important members EXCLUSIVELY on dogpack and the weddle stuff, but you couldnt ask them anything about the serious allegations made about the company? mrbeast even commented on the video and you go as far as saying dogpack should be sued for defamation lmao, deffo shady shit going on, you probably argued with dogpack and have been on him to try and eat off every forced accusation he's made (yes he has forced accusations but that doesnt change the fact he's been one of the first by far to expose much of the sh1t going on behind the scenes) and you're probably collaborating with the beast team which has been tyring to slander dogpack in every way possible even hiring private investigators (you are playing perfectly in the role by lying on him being untrustworthy when the majority of the claims he made, especially the fundamental ones, are indeed backed up by evidence, and when they arent he takes accountability for it) to diminish his credibility.
actual sad shit, and you got all the other sheep in the comment actually believing ur bs graph of false accusations which makes it seem like youve just shown them all on the screen while you're only listing absolutely minor points of barely any relevance 🤣 what journalism lmao, this is a sh1tshow
also the part where you claim he has a mrbeast obsession is the vilest shit ive seen in a while. you're not a "controlled" response to dogpack, you mrbeast's response to dogpack
@@Plt193 so r u gonna ignore the all evidences brought against dogpack's lies, slander and half truth during his brief time to create ur own hypothtical scenario to make you feel good about him slandering mr beast? You saw his video "ideas" yourself and you heard eye witnesses that talk about his charcater not to mention MOST of his allegations are purposely misleading his audiences which proves he not for the truth but himself obviously. Did you watch with understanding? As the prevoius commeneter mentioned, BOTH are SCUMMY. Dogpack isnt a saint who just happened in your dream world to " probably didn't particularly align with much of the scummy practices of the company, which is also one of the other reasons he probably exposed the business. " HE IS SCUMMY TOO. In fact, he should be lucky he isn't getting sued by everyone he dragged in his lies cause he would be done.
@@DanceFacility dogpack is an ex employee which most likely disagreed on various views on how to run the company and it's creative side / content and got punished for it. Was he fit for the job? Maybe he wasn't the most hard working employee and likely he wasn't in line with the content direction the channel had taken, which probably resulted in him getting fired as he was considered a liability. Considering how some employees and collaborators are treated (beastgames and the weddle situation are good examples) I wouldn't be surprised at all by his firing being suspicious / questionable.
So the question is, why should we consider dogpack scummy? Because he's a disgruntled employee who got kicked out for having different views from the company direction, and then exposing truths about a good chunk of the scummy nature of the channel?
Losing a job in which he clearly cared about (he was deep into YouTube content creation and mechanism) surely is one of the main reasons why he went on to expose mrbeast, but you also have to consider one of the reasons he was fired is he probably didn't particularly align with much of the scummy practices of the company, which is also one of the other reasons he probably exposed the business.
So refrain from throwing "scummy" around. The only scum I see here is the mrbeast company which hides behind charity to money farm
I agree with you, but, like, dogpack still left out some stuff from his video that disproved a few of his allegations. I feel like both dogpack and Mr. Beast are pretty scummy people.
Then he says stuff like MrBeasts actions are only alleged while dogpacks are confirmed. Like how is that in any way true? Also then brings an employee who has worked for MrBeasts for 5 years saying the recorded conversation was just “water cooler talk” like that was supposed to make it less concerning?
if this channel said Dogpack is bad and Mr Beast is also bad, I'd be fine. But this channel is very weird in that Mr Beast is clearly unethical and manipulative, yet this channel tried to use Dogpack and legal loopholes to pretend to exonerate Mr Beast like Mr Beast is still the same old generous guy children should worship. (edit: I've now seen a few videos doing the same thing uploaded within hours apart, some of which have never even covered the Mr Beast scandal, but now suddenly uploading within hours apart, with similar motive and strategy (expose dogpack while mentioning Mr Beast allegations, so they look like auto exoneration for each Mr Beast scandal). Seems very weird channels that never covered the Mr Beast scandal have full researched videos uploaded hours apart, almost like Mr Beast team handpicked certain channels, but this could be just a coincidence). And unlike 10 minute videos, I saw ones like 30 minutes or 1 hour+ long--how are they uploading all within hours apart... They are even outperforming other channels that just release 10 minute videos. Almost feels like there are certain information they were fed and had to cover.)
A few weird points from this video: -Delaware is something the employees believed to represent his criminal history, Dogpack is irrelevant to this and even "Delaware" nickname is irrelevant because the key point is employees saying he had the history, so whether the nickname is linked to his history is a small extra detail, not the actual detail. You can erase the nickname from the conversation and affect nothing. They would still be talking about his past history regardless of the nickname.
-The war crime was a spontaneous statement by his friend upon learning about his sleep deprivation just as anyone would easily relate one thing to another but this channel made it like it exonerates Mr Beast. Whether it is legally a war crime does not cancel his actual actions. Example: If you drain your parents money, your friend might just blurt out you're scamming your parents, but technically/legally you're not. It's just the behavior is so bad someone would just use that word. This channel tried to use that to make Mr Beast look innocent when that wasn't the point. If a war crime was the point, then Mr Beast would be in trial. The point was his actions, war crime was just what comes to mind to describe his actions.
-For the illegal lottery, legal semantics and loopholes aside, the motive was clearly unethical and manipulative by Mr Beast. It doesn't matter if Mr Beast managed to do it through legal loopholes because he is being cancelled for his fake generous personality and real manipulative and greedy personality. The motive was obvious and the tactics were obvious. He was definitely manipulative.
Again, this seemed to be Mr Beast propaganda. I'm not going to go through every point which is all full of propaganda. feels like this channel is spreading fake positive Mr Beast propaganda so this channel is ironically also "manipulative".
@fonkedonke > It isn't really easier to dismiss a marathon, like at all. If I say "he doesn't wanna do basic math quizzes, him not wanting to solve complex algebra seems not hard" it won't invalidate the point. The whole point, what MrBeast requested for him, isn't demanding for any average person. He was also was only "pressured" and not really forced into it. And also, you don't have to do the whole marathon. You can just attempt it for a bit, and if you can't, just simply give up. Again, it wouldn't disqualified him, he would only just lose the extra price money
> They literally show multiple contestants from the database that these people aren't from North Carolina. They used multiple different examples of people actually having small following, and even doing basic google search. Stop saying "it's a flimsy argument" when your argument is a random podcast. Also, anonymous dms are even less reliable than actuan interviews. It's a lot easier to make up fake communications between people that never consent to them compared to interviews
> What raise bit are you talking about then? The guy was paid for the challenge he does, failed, and expected more money than he should've expected. And MrBeast even apologize and even given him the rest of the money not expecting anything in return
> He literally said that he won't accept any more money from his because he won't be bought. He only accepted 50k because of his logic "if I don't accept the full pay, I'm not bought by him". What this does is just tanking your credibility while you take almost a quarter of the money you could've gotten
> Again, the issue isn't him making some tweet. The issue is that its makes him a hypocrite. He came out calling out Kris Tyson for saying weird shit before, while he have done the same thing. Making creepy "jokes" with heavy implication of it being a minor is still gross.
@@naganut9718 I don't have much more to say and can't be bothered with going deeper (I really don't know why I'm here at all hahahah, I normally stumble upon MrBeast stuff and really don't care all that much, which yea, is weird after the amount I've said, trust me this is procrastination and losing track of time to things I think would just take 5 mins rather than caring) so I'll just leave with this, glad to talk to someone that isn't just condescending and actually interacts with the argument: - It is true Stucky mentioned he was pressured into running the marathon but when Jake was explaining being pushed into it Stucky says "a rubix cube is not the olympics". Jake probably wouldn't have cared about a rubix cube, when he was talking about pressure he was leading up to talking about the marathon and used the rubix cube as a very quick example. By making someone seem petty for not wanting to do a rubix cube you make it easier to dismiss a marathon as "not that hard". - I've watched a podcast with that "chronically online girl explains" girl saying she was on a challenge and when she spoke to everyone there they all seemed to have connections to connections. I also find it very coincidental that many of the people involved in different videos are part of the industry. No, this does not necessarily mean the video are completely fake no do they have to be random. But promising the idea of "random" subscribers seems to be pretty flimsy as well. Maybe there are random subscribers but very very very rarely. I don't think it is wrong for employees to take part but I think that if it is true that most people are not "random" subscribers then you should be more open that these people are friends of friends of friends rather than random people. Jake also mentioned how he had to act in some videos and pretend the things that happened were real. The whole "real" thing doesn't really interest me tho, I'd agree with Soggy that a behind the scenes channel may help, who cares if a pit isn't as deep as it seems. - Anonymous messages are just as suspect as interviewing people who are managers at the company where one of the allegations is tribalism of yes men. Unfortunately, this ends up as a he said, she said situation. But if Locoya Hill rumours are true then everything in the interviews will be immediately dismissed as bias just as much as Dawson was biased. I'm using Locoya hill as an example because Soggy did a pretty bad job of defending that, most of the video I think is great though. - I think we may have confused the prize money bit to asking for a raise bit, that's the part that I'm saying he was underpaid. - I can't find him claiming that he won't be bought by MrBeast. If that's true then sure he's a hypocrite, I'll agree. But I'd also point out being bought out is to retract your statement through bribes, not take no money at all through donations. But sure, if he said he will never take any money under any circumstances then sure, that's hypocrisy - Jake said he was pressured into doing the marathon, he wouldn't have needed to explain his issues of sleep deprivation because they were already obvious and the thing is he did explain his issues, he said he's had absolutely no training and again, he is absolutely drained. - I don't think that making jokes excuses things when it is illegal and morally wrong. Being into 19 year olds when you're 21 is not illegal nor is a 2 year age gap predatory, nor are jokes that are sexual in nature inherently creepy. I find teen stuff weird but if I had a 21 year old friend date a pregnant 19 year old I wouldn't think much of it other than "that's weirdly specific". That's like if I joke that I borrowed money from you and you call me a hypocrite for saying I don't like robbers. This whole joke thing is so ad hominem. Nowhere in the joke were there sa connotations, nowhere in the joke was it presumed they were underage, nothing in the joke was creepy. Crude yes, creepy no. He also had 6 likes, he was saying this to friends where it isn't weird to say what type of people you are into, especially if you are joking! Literally nothing has happened in that tweet. If you have to dig that hard in order to have reasons to dislike someone then lie saying that it's actually predatory, then I'm not gonna trust them, especially when the rest of the video is pretty much dismissing his trauma. Ava's situation is completely different, because when it came to Ava they were actual morally wrong and illegal underage jokes told to people who are underage, I think the jokes were inappropriate, not grooming (people need to stop watering down that term) but definitely wrong to talk to underage people like that.
@@fonkedonke > For the average person, this isn't a hard task. Sure, Jake Weddle have circumstances, but if that's the case I feel he should've explained his issues rather than just doing it unwillingly, there's also no penalty if he failed the task outside of losing the extra cash > Its still hypocritical no matteer what you think. The guy is calling other people creepy while he himself made inappropriate and creepy jokes before. And it being a joke is a poor excude because that was the same excuse Kris pulled > His reasoning fucking sucked. Just because he explained as to why he isn't a hypocrite in his mind doesn't mean he isn't a hypocrite. If I called out someone for stealing money, than later do it myself, but in my head "well I have to pay my medical bills", it's still hypocritical. He himself said he won't accept the money MrBeast offers so he won't be bought by them, but then immediately accept the 50k. > If that's your stance fine, but its also understandable there are other people who are fishy of what he's saying when he shown to act like a deranged bratty person
@@naganut9718 - I think "not that hard" and "easy" are pretty much synonymous in this case coming from him. If he can't walk for days afterwards then you can't take that away from him. It wasn't "not that hard", it was in fact very hard,. He touched on something tedious in order to nullify the effect as "not that hard" - I do not think it is hypocritical at all and again it falls for the perfect victim fallacy and it still doesn't take away anything he said. At the same time, you need to remember that "petite teen" normally refers to 18 and 19 year olds and from what I can tell with my research the tweet was made in 2020. From what I can find he is probably 24 now, which means Jake made that tweet when he was 21! So no, Jake made a bad joke that makes me feel weird because personally I find teen porn fetishes to be disgusting even if it is legal. But he never acted creepy in the way of being into kids (edit: or joking he was). - He was making himself clear, he said he took money from MrBeast and gave reasons why, you can't be much clearer than that. He didn't know that he was going to get money previously which is why he didn't say it, he never expected it. - I agree. I do not think he should have posted it and do not agree with him but what I'm saying is that this doesn't make anything he said untrustworthy, it makes him a guy who fell off the handle for understandable reasons to make seriously harmful comparisons
@fonkedonke > He never said it was easy, he said it wasn't that hard. And while I get he barely have any sleep, I feel like he should've put that into account > It was never comparible, as its not the whole point. The whole point is that its hypocritical to vall someone hiring creeps while you also have acted creepily of your own in the past, regardless whether or not it was a joke > If that's the case, then he should've made himself clear about it. What he assumes the pay would be should be explained more, but he didn't. Also didn't MrBeast already told him the price money? He failed the challenge, and he still have a good 100k, and was even given more money after the challenge > Mental health isn't something worth noting in the case of him comparing himself to sa victims. You're making very serious allegations of someone, regardless of mental health, you should at least think twice before saying something online. If you're gonna excuse mental health, then there's gonna be a lot of innocent people got falsely accused, even if the evidence is flimsy at best because of mental health > He didn't mention leave out the extra hard bit? He said right after the rubik's cube, not much implications he was talking about the marathon when making that statement. If that's the case, I feel like he would be saying "When I heard that, I just can't refuse to do the marathon". As for the pool bit, he immediately says "it's a silly complaint, but the water was cold and you're taking short amount of time", which I feel like is trying to not make it sound as silly, not to mention he literslly displays it right there > Videos are faked have very flimsy evidence that was later disproven by Soggy, people brought in having connection is also flimsy as basic research shown there's multiple different people with little to no internet fame parcitipating, and having employees doesn't break the rules. Not to mention the evidence of all of them being insider are usually just anonymous dms. I feel like the filming part over safety would be fair, but they also have taken many safety percautions before. Such as the ocean challenge, adding camera trained people, covid test, etc. He also wasn't underpaid. Getting like 10k a day from a challenge is still a good deal, and at the end of the day he earned a 150k, which is a lot more money that people wishes they have > About the whole "he never said he didn't wanted money". He later on said he didn't accept the money so he won't be bought by MrBeast, but him than accepting 50k pretty much makes him a hypocrite
I'm gonna look into the fumes bit later on. And while I do understand if you think Stucky downplays his trauma, everyone's reaction and struggles are different, the issue is his reaction to it as a whole shows immaturity
Also, milking situation isn't good for him. You're taking down your credibility as a person because what they gonna see is a manchild milking as much cash as they can
@@naganut9718 I watched the video but he didn't really say much. Sorry this is long. I've gone through pretty much every point and checked out the original videos to see if they hold up:
- Saying "yea, running a marathon in 2 days is easy" is just really dismissive, especially when you need to remember that this guy has had barely any sleep. - Making a disgusting joke about petite pregnant girls and comparing it to hiring an RSO is insane and nowhere near as close. - I've found Jake saying he didn't do stuff FOR money, I can't find anything saying he will NEVER ACCEPT money. Jake admitted to taking the money, that was honesty. If there is an actual quote that I've just missed from Jake of him being hypocritical then sure, but so far he seems clean. - As for wanting a raise it's also very dismissive of how little they were getting paid. He said he mentioned the writer's guild because it was the closest thing. That means that he probably only took the writer's guild into proportion of what it is at Netflix and then lowered the salary according the the difference ads make on Netflix v YouTube. I can't prove that but neither can anyone else prove the opposite. It's a claim that I'd like to see investigated. - Comparing himself to rape victims is wrong, I'm not going to say it is good but you need to remember that this guy was angry flying off the handle for very valid reasons of people dismissing his trauma, of course he was going to say something stupid, that doesn't take away any part of his testimony. Perfect victim fallacy. - I don't trust this Stucky guy. At one point in the video he made it out as if Jake couldn't handle doing a rubik's cube because it was pushing him extra hard. But he purposefully left out that Jake was actually referring to the marathon that he was being pushed extra hard for. He also left out the paint fumes bit and didn't mention that Jake said the pool being lukewarm was a silly complaint. They have to be intentionally manipulated. - Still all the points I mentioned stand, videos are faked, poor pay, tribalism, people brought in normally have connections to connections, they'll do philanthropy as long as it's on camera and they couldn't turn the lights off because recording was more important than safety. - As for milking the situation out, yea that's annoying I personally don't find him funny and that seems to be a lot of people's opinion so it's understandable why he would go that way
@@shaquillesommerville4060 my reply got deleted so saying it again. While the point about Jack the Viking is valid, its also important to note he's not a reliable source, nor a good person.
However, the part about the charity ain't. For one, you need to realize its a limited time event, methods of signing up id already gone by now, and you can aldo just check the site if you wanted to. Regardless its still prove that those videos aren't illegal lotteries
@@shaquillesommerville4060 the claim about jake the viking is pretty valid, but its also stilll important to note of him not being a good person and his words not being trustworthy
But the parts about the illegal lottery isn't. The issue is that you have to take into consideration about limited time offers, where a chance to offer might be closed off and you can't enter anymore. You can also just check the site itself if you need more information
@@fonkedonke there's a video made by Stucky that goes more in depth about him, I suggest to check it out because Jake Weddle's very much not a trustworthy guy
@@Viewer13128 The whole point of the video is about Dogpack404's massive slander of mrbeast, you know well mrbeast's reputation is now ruined, not just deeply, but permanently. Everyone likes it apparently. Due to this awareness, mrbeast is now facing real allegations like crypto, and all that was really making mrbeast guilty are unexpected mistakes, how can you expect to do better than the future you doing more fairly, I can bet my money you and including others didn't know about illegal lotteries, conscience in behavior, or how fair you can make for everyone years ago. No one is perfect and any situation coincidental, including unacceptable actions is something people can't control without awareness, knowledge, or experience, until they found out but can't change the mistakes in the past. Either you have to know how to act, be responsible, and express the right way to the public, or ruin your image even further in other's judgement by your wrong acts... in this case, some influencers are unfortunately uncapable of addressing rightfully when they have immense pressure and influence from the population of their audience.
> The whole point of the nickname was about emphasizing the fact these guys can't get basic fact checking well. The guy wasn't some predator that MrBeadt knowingly hired. He was some bestbuy employee who got the background of a criminal, that MrBeast didnt do background check on, because he was an adolesent 19 yo
> You still shouldn't joke around when making serious claims against a person, and the thing is, he can leave at any time. And he wasn't gonna leave empty handed either. He was leaving with a good sum of money collected from the time he spent, and was even offered money even after the challenge.
> In the age of gacha and lootboxes, giveaways are overall average. You can argue it's a scummy bussiness practice, which you seemed to leave out the fact Soggy pretty much said it is, but it's not "illegal lottery"
Also, calling this video a MrBeast propaganda when the dude not only have criticized MrBeast, but also suggest checking out videos that exposed his crypto scams is insane. The guy wasn't criticizing MrBeast as heavily because this was a video talking about DogPack. There's already hundreds of video covering the guy
@ I would rather prefer a real debunk on the claim rather than the attack someone character approach. That’s literally the same excuse they tried for Lunchly Mold situation and look at how well that turn.
@@shaquillesommerville4060 "He makes no attempt in mentioning (at least from what I heard) about Jake the Viking making the statement that Mr.beast and his mother were inform about said past and kept him around." Even if I don't agree with Cereal's video he did mention this (rather snarkily) and proceeded to say how the Viking guy can't be trusted since he is a bad person and that Jimmy was a young muffin.
@@shaquillesommerville4060 Yeah, I think the entire situation is just stupid, though I will say I've never felt right about dogpack. He seems kind of mental but I've always felt that MrBeast had something to hide too.
i mean you kind of sound like a dogpack shill here;
the delaware nickname is embroidered onto the shirt in the original video so he clearly GOES by delaware. if he isn't actually banned from the state of delaware, which the video explains, then they arent talking about his past history. it's borderline impossible to know what mrbeast does or doesnt know so whatever on that
the sleep deprivation thing is just dumb - the channel is calling out how comparing getting 10,000 dollars a day to live in shitty conditions to rape and war crimes is insane, and not representative of the full picture.
no purchase necessary is a legal "loophole" that exists on literally every box of cereal with a giveaway and we literally get an example of someone winning something from it in the video.
@@Skyhigh_905 Not really. It's one thing to just reporting and commenting on the allegations.
However, if you're going be the guy disproven allegations then its of your best interest to also point out what is true or get to the bottom of said proof rather than arguing "well he got fired so that's why Dogpack made allegation about an SA CEO.", "Maybe Mr.beast was young and not sure about background check." ,maybe Jimmy made a mistake.... Stuff like that to disprove allegations are going be more criticize then allegations
And the whole flying to Beast HQ to interview current employees. Soo the company can open doors to a YT 'journalist', to talk about another yt 'journalist', but not actually acknowledge anything? Pretty shady, especially with beast pr in crisis mode.
Also how was the ideation team just two people in an office when we had dogpack, his coworker, and manager? like where was the ideation manager when dogpack was supposedly making his coworker uncomfortable working in an office together?
@@Viewer13128 Yes! This video is for the most part great but very weird in how he just slaps MrBeast on the wrist saying "There, there. No more of that" as if he didn't do anything.
Hoodie saying that because of DogPack many people are now not going to be able to walk pisses me off. Nothing has stopped them from anonymously giving to charities without a camera. DogPack has stopped you from filming them for your profit! If there is more I'd like to hear it but I find that unlikely.
Jake Weddle in my opinion is completely innocent here. I believe he just trusted Dawson because he said everything he wanted to hear. Jake is proof himself that videos are faked, being subscribed to get in a video is practically not true (and many others came out saying they were in challenges and pretty much everyone was somehow related to someone related to MrBeast) and that the safety was terrible. Jake clearly took the war crimes bit as a joke, he was literally laughing. Soggy paints him as being dishonest when all the evidence of him being "dishonest" came from himself... which is honesty...? Jake also mentioned there was tribalism in the staff over how much of a yes man you were to Jimmy and the fact the guy Dawson tricked to get on the video says that even close friends of him have cut contact is proof of that! And we just let it slide!?
No!? I keep coming back here because the more I watch the more half baked I realise it is and that even if Dawson was going on a revenge spree half of what he claimed isn't proven wrong yet, or was actually true to a certain extent (yes, Jimmy wasn't on the raft because of the storm, but how many people believed he stayed on the raft in the storm?) and everything Jake Weddle said appears to be completely true, this video does a massive disservice to him.
(Also as a side note, c'mon. "I bought 100 boobs" is funny. That's funny! Imagine "I bought 100 balls". It sucks that Dawson went down this route. He has a fun personality and he's a great communicator and he clearly knows his stuff. If he took the revenge option of being MrBeast but with an actual personality I would have loved that, sucks he went down to the lying side)
I do agree on some of your views, but I’m confused by your edit. What channels or videos have been uploaded within the last few hours that also go in depth about exposing dogpack? Are there any keywords you used specifically? I’m trying to search by most recently uploaded but I don’t see many videos discrediting dogpack besides a few made months ago. Thanks
It was quiet necessary I would say. Mr beast is infact not good of a person but to just dismiss and bury every deed he's done with false allegations and using deceptive means just for dog pack to get a little attention is honestly much more disgusting. Just imagine spending millions of dollar much of which helped numerous people's life, just for this dude to outright call it "fake" and the entire internet actually believing.
@@shaquillesommerville4060 (Don't know about the Locoya hill and Jake the Viking stuff. I'm only talking about illegal lotteries)
Dogpack's point about the illegal lotteries wasn't that you couldn't enter the giveaway form for free, or that it was extremely hard to enter, his point was that MrBeast never showed that you could enter for free. If the form was hidden/impossible to enter, then Dogpack would've pointed it out. So how the form sign-up process works doesn't really matter since no one ever complained or talked about the form itself.
I'm not taking sides at all. I'm just pointing out that Dogpack and Soggy are talking about whether MrBeast hid that you could enter for free or not..
@@intothevoid9831If the focus of the video is on dogpack, why the title only said mr.beast? Destroying dogpack credibility is not the same as uncovering “the real truth about mr beast”
@ he never says that what he’s saying “is not really valid”. He says that what he saying comes into question which is fair. Guilty until proven innocent and when someone cuts out context, makes an entire fake YouTube ui that statement is justified. Also maybe I’m nitpicking here but just because you “feel” like he’s exonerating Mrbeast doesn’t mean he is. Hell even the original commenter does this. Edit: he also confirms one of dogpacks points in the illegal lottery 1 section, he straight up acknowledges and says himself that it was true and should be held accountable.
@@jojothepig7258 still all along the vid it feels like he's exonerating mr beast by saying that dogpack isn't a trustworthy source so what he's saying isn't really valid, which some are definitely valid. feels like it's even more poisoning the well .
@Viewer13128 we already know Mr beast is a scumbag for many reasons that are facts this video was more about showing people how "good" isn't always inosent (aka dogpack)
he kinda just points out one fact that dogpack got wrong and or missed and or lied about and makes it seem like everything is bad. also, mrbeast commented so this can easily be a bought out video.
YES! Thank you, I feel like I've been looking for this comment. Dogpack clearly has his own motivations for making these and after his second video, he clearly started grasping at straws to keep the drama going, but enough is plainly true that MrBeast is very clearly bad and should be criticized. At most, Soggy Cereal only tries to say vague stuff like "Oh, yeah, I guess he COULD be bad, but we don't know." The Jake Weddle stuff on its own would be enough, and that's basically been proven.
Sure, Jake chose to do it still, but it should never have been compelled by Jimmy in the first place. That marathon he ran could have KILLED him. If we agree that assisted suic*de is ethically wrong, even if the person still chooses it, we should agree that heavily pressuring Jake into performing an action that could kill him or ruin his health because he was desperate for money is just evil.
It's especially disgusting to me how MrBeast is commenting on this video, calling literally of his detractors "slanderers," acting like he's totally in the clear. What he does is wrong and now he may never be properly called out for it
Soggy clearly says Mrbeast is bad though. In the illegal lottery section he straight up says “I do believe it is scummy and manipulative marketing though” at around 1:01:34. He never says it that it was generous, he just says it wasn’t illegal. Edit: it’s about 10 seconds before the timestamp.
also, looking through the wayback machine using the URL he has in the video reveals that the descriptions are different on different snapshot dates, not to mention that there's randomly 8 snapshots taken from oct 15th all of the sudden... idk, occam's razor seems eerily thin here.
@@Karmanara Oh but Jimmy was young and didn’t know background check- but what about Jake Viking the brother-in-law of Delaware confirming both Jimmy and his mom knew about his past and still kept him around?
Oh but the illegal lotteries had a disclaimer. The description only shown a site to Shopmrbeast. Where exactly was this form to be enter?
Like there’s a bunch of holes in this video too that just doesn’t actually attempt of being neutral and getting to the bttm of the evidences but rather a bias to make it seem Mr. Beast have an escape goat for his allegation which I just don’t agree with.
@@Karmanara He does criticize but it’s not 100% in the act of pointing out the wrong Mr.beast done within that allegation.
For example, rather trying to debunk the loocay Hills stuff(which is that he work in the adult industry, allegedly SA a coworker, was paid to leave, and transfer to another Mrbeast company), this guy claim that “Oh Dogpack got fired by this dude which is why he’s acting like this. Which to me seem weird af to argue
you realize he did criticize MrBeast right? just not as much because quite literally half the stuff DogPack404 even said about him was false, hence theres nothing TO criticize for it on that regard
@@shaquillesommerville4060he literally talks about that at 10:10 his response to that is essentially that Jake The Viking is an untrustworthy moron who isn't a reliable narrator which is a legit fair thing to say imo, when the Kris Tyson shit first started coming to light Jake frequently posted about how Jimmy knew everything Kris did with absolutely 0 proof just for it to be revealed he himself knew his convicted child rapist brother in law once worked there, I don't think coming to the conclusion Jake lied about that to take away heat from him and his brother in law is a crazy conclusion, is it 100% true idk but it's not crazy to think that. Also Jake has frequently defended Delaware as a person lol.
@@Viewer13128Like this guy doesn’t even try disproving the claims for Locoya Hill but rather claim Dogpack just mad that he got fired.
It’s so weird how this video acts
Edit: But Dogpack got the chocolate serving size wrong? Who cares? The point is Mr. Beast claim and act like he’s care about nutrition but then sell BS like Mr Beast burger, Zabaxy deals, Lunchly….. like I feel there’s not enough being neutral about Mr. Beast and Dogpack but rather some bias in there against Dogpack
@@Viewer13128if this dude was actually super intent on making MrBeast seem like a good guy I do not think he would urge people to watch a video by coffeezilla that discusses MrBeasts potential involvements in crypto scams and state that he thought MrBeast used scummy marketing, he is way more critical of dogpack than he is MrBeast in this video yes, I don't think that's inherently a bad thing? Every youtuber and their fucking grandma has made videos talking about Mrbeast like he's the devil and criticism of Dogpack on this platform is significantly less rare I don't think making a video where you primarily show proof of Dogpack lying his ass off means you actually think MrBeast is super good.
@@Viewer13128Exactly. He makes no attempt in mentioning (at least from what I heard) about Jake the Viking making the statement that Mr.beast and his mother were inform about said past and kept him around.
Claims that for the illegal lotteries that there’s supposedly a way to do so on shopmrbeast site but never shows on the wayback machine any evidence of a form to sign(just legal loophole I guess).
@@cats9994 from my perspective, the amount of criticism he sprinkled in despite the general feeling of trivializing everything feels like a manipulation tactic. The feeling I got was that Mr Beast was being exonerated when watching this video. I should feel the same for both dogpack and mr beast, but they are incomparable. It was not normal to feel this disparity, especially if he sprinkled criticisms. Feels like his tactic to appear impartial, while not.
Sry man, this just seems too one-sided to believe this video was made with zero prompting. And the intervirws are done with ppl that have too much to lose. Maybe u could team up with Coffeezilla to give the videos more credit
I think it would be best to just not waste our time into online dramas and controversies. At this point We viewers are just being treated like ping pong balls, being tossed around from one side to the other lol. Can't believe any side tbh. I believe Jimmy was overrated, not a good guy and honestly it is good that at least his indecency is being exposed. Neither dog pack was a good fellow, had his own motives and agendas. But now the truth is being shown to the viewers, so it's good I guess. Just my opinion tho.
@@hydro1389literally the first point the only thing he added was 1. He is allowed in Delaware which we knew bc of what Viking said 2. Jimmy didn’t know he was a so when he got hired which is undoubtedly his fault and Delaware stayed on the team even after he knew at least as soon as he found out he should’ve gotten fired
Correction: dogpack worked at mrbeast, chris Tyson news went mainstream, dogpack blew the whistle on other things going on at the company with evidence, now soggy and other commentary channels are on jimmy payroll using ad hominem attacks to make dogpack lose credibility
@@sxmbxdy uh yeah bc the war crime point is shit, there's genuine stuff to go at Jimmy for. also where did he try to exonerate about the illegal lotteries
Who would have guessed. So many gullible chronically online people jumped on Mr. Beast after that provocateur's, DogPack 404's, videos. I always maintain how dangerous it is to treat mere allegations as facts. If you think your reasoning is strong enough then go prove it in the court instead of passing blame: likely the court system is friendly to the plaintiff.
The point about slavery is pretty dumb because Tony's Chocolonely Works with Barry Callebaut who does Work with child labor and modern slavery So MrBeast working with them means nothing
dogpack managed to make people see that beast is not above criticism and neither is he the perfect good boy people preached him to be, and im glad he did it. that being said im also glad now people started to actually analyze what he's saying; it always seemed pretty suspicious to me at how much he defends behind "NDA", as if an NDA would be enforcable when literal crimes are commited as they "allegedly" are.
i just hope that after this is over beast will learn from his mistakes and become less negligent, and dogpack falls into obscurity unable to ride the clout he generated from this.
I dunno man maybe "I asked the team who are under fire if any of the stuff happened and they said no" is maybe not the best way to go about it I'm just saying I won't be surprised if you buy a Lamborghini in the next few weeks with money you can't disclose the source of
i was arrogant enough to just go off was dopack404 said and assume everything he said was thoroughly researched and true, sure, you exposed this guy, but whats stopping you from being wrong like dogpack? unless multiple other people can back up what you said during this video, im not even gonna bother with this drama no more
This is giving arcane universe, everyone has done good and bad things
Going back to Weddle, though, I think the Delaware nickname was what he assumed because he didn’t know the context. Weddle is obviously mentally ill because of trauma he’s experienced throughout his life. I didn’t take that at face value, as I knew that was probably his assumption, so I didn’t believe the Delaware nickname was for that reason. About his friend joking, I believe he knew that it was a joke and was trying to cope with his experiences. This video, like dog packs video, implies that Weddle knew about it and like conspired with him on the interview. I don’t believe he did, I think his memory was just clouded with confirmation bias and an assumption about why he was called Delaware, and with the war joke he clearly took as a joke to cope. I knew it was a joke because war crimes would be ridiculous but I could tell he mentioned it to cope with his experiences. The rest of the accusations against him in the video are to be taken with the knowledge that any could be true or false, I know nothing of those. But it is unfair to state that Weddle maliciously intent to depict his friend as seriously saying that his experiences were comparable to war crimes, as Weddle literally states: “my friend jokingly said”…
mate wtf is this proving? It didnt get deleted because he does not support mrbeast or dogpack, and he for sure as hell does not censor people because he likes seeing braindead people try and make stupid comments to ride dogpack's meat.
1.yeah he did it for views. 2.yes he manipulate a lot in video. 3.but starting from his video, people stop believe mrbeast is that good guy, and find real things he has done. 4.without his videos, mrbeast wont be accountable for anything for years. 5.his videos make good movement even and he just use all bad information people talk in years, but no one want check what is true or what is lie
called it bloody called it i knew this guy would just be some attention seeking guy looking to take advantage after chris got exposed and because of that it was the perfect opportunity for people to start these rumours and turns out i’m right well there’s still the lawsuit and i guess maybe i might of been wrong on jake waddle because that was half and half but oh how good it feels to be right
suprised people didn't realize dogpack was bad. i did by JUST THE 1ST VIDEO HE MADE. ok it was like 4 days after it was made i became insanely suspicious, but this took too long
Fraudpack glazers might have to be one of the most braindead npcs I’ve ever seen. They keep repeating the same old bs every single time if a person is exposed Fraudpack ( I know most fans do this but these glazers crank this to freaking 11.) Like PLEASE do some research before following someone..
Last year if you criticize Mr beast you would be criticized but just a couple months ago if you criticized dog pack you’d be called a ‘Mr beast glazer’
Honestly im not backing down, this video is really flexing words to defend mrbeast "allegally" (cause he doesn't want to sound that he is suporting mrbeast but he is) like the sleep deprivation thing, just because some people are dying on a war that doesn't make the problem less, and also just because he is not being detained, doesn't change the fact that mrbeast is still using humillation and borderline torture as enterteinment
It's curious that a seemingly unconnected content creator takes his time to fly overseas and conveniently has access to several employees, and asks specific damage-control related questions.
@@noahniskala I did not say "his comment" is, I said comments "like his" gets. And not just by creators but YT itself many times.
A comment that appears only in "Latest" tab but not the "Most relevant" tab, is shadow 🍌. Even talking about this topic often gets your comment hidden. I don't even know if this same comment will appear
@@dubbyplays It never got shadowed, hes not hiding these comments, stop trying to make it seem like hes mrbeast who just censors everyone so his audience does not find it. Like bro you guys are overreacting so godamn much
Soggy Cereal, thank you for making this and shedding light on the misinformation spread about MrBeast.
Just as I predicted, both sides were scumbags.
Although I still disagree wih the chocolate one, the real problem was that MrBeast still advertised his chocolate brand as healthy even though its only slightly unhealthier than Hersheys.
I dont got any media literacy. I blindly believed dogpack, and now im gonna blindly believe you because its easiest on my mental bandwidth. The world is too crazy for me to keep up with, so if you get disproven on your claims, I'll blindly believe the person who debunks you. As the cycle goes to make sure I'm not swallowed whole by the court of public opinion
How much did MrBeast pay you to make this video? Also, you can’t just say everything wasn’t true just because there’s some spite doesn’t mean the stuff he has dug up isn’t true. He was the only one brave enough to speak up against your shitty company.
Most of the things dawson said were correct except for maybe some things in his third video, and Mr beast did this to himself - Streisand effect. He thought it would fade away and he wont have to address them.
MrBeast's channel clearly suffered from this situation so why did he not make a response? like he is literally mr beast so he doesn't have to investigate the situation or anything since he is the situation so why did he not make a response like this video?
Responding to the video would only escalate the situation and draw more attention to the drama. The best approach to handle such drama, especially at his level, is to remain silent. Take, for example, what happened with Dream: when he addressed the allegations, it just brought more people into the drama and caused many people to draw the conclusion that dream was in the wrong without watching the video even though he wasn't. This ultimately harmed his channel.
I had the "attention whore" feeling about that dogpack dude right away. those "accusations" where never serious. ad a bit of manipulation and drama is ready. he needs to go
No, MrBeast is not innocent. Soggy only debunked some of the trivial things. The actual serious allegations were brushed under the rug or are misunderstanding the real issue.
@@simo_viewer_pr9030it’s true tho, attacking the source makes u look like a jimmy shill, even doe there’s plenty of evidence both dogpack and others have provided of jimmy, his work environment, employees, and terrible practices
Bro, please open your fucking mind and listen to others for once. Not everyone who goes against DogPack’s claims (basically anyone with more than 10 IQ) is “paid” by MrBeast or “is a MrBeast meatrider”. That’s something DogPack fans like saying a lot…
Soggy Cereal does debunk the things you mentioned like the philanthropy being fake which is untrue. Also if he spoke about all of the lies the dog pack made this video would almost be 2 hours long
This video is CLEARLY meant to debunk DogPack’s BS, not to meatride MrBeast. Just try going to the comment section under a DogPack video: everyone who goes against him is getting called a MrBeast meatrider or “paid by MrBeast”. You’re just repeating their crap but with 400K more clout points. If you watched the video, you would understand. But it’s probably too complicated for Roblox brainrot youtuber…
@@EyemachineStudios I will watch the video when he talks about the companies and people he actually scammed + the stuff he lied like chocolate and burger, but until then, i won't watch this video and take it seriously
This video is long, but filled with information not so relevant, while the relevant one wasn't even present
@@EyemachineStudios you sthu yall crying like this guy as if mrbeast is getting attacked while he did nothing wrong
that thing with legs scammed companies that helped clean the ocean, food, build stuff in africa or other places and people eye surgery, and the only thing this guy talked about is the stuff that doesn't matter at all, like, fake videos, who the heck cares about the fake videos, i know its bad, but hes talking only about that like if its the worst thing, and he also lied about the chocolate thing
The chess pieces from Mr beast side are started to move (death note music started) , he got the many mr. beast crew and mr. beast even commented in this video(scroll down he said Finally! A video that doesn’t spread baseless slander about me lol) surely mr beast is involved. Now the tables had turned and pegasus got 12 ep 20 mins each worth of content it is going to be fun whose side to believe in, u wonder? believe in yourself and start a drama channel ,make pegasus your idol and make a mr beast, logan paul,ksi and dogpack404 shrine will help you in future. (be ready next dogpack video is about to drop) Your Welcome. WHITE
Wow, I can’t believe I got manipulated by a fucking crying employee begging for his job and got mad he got fired for being an asshole, honestly this really opens my eyes to not trusting people.
I appreciate this video. I bought into much of what DogPack said but still thought the allegations seemed exaggerated but there are some things that I'm not fussed about here: - Just because Jimmy hired Delaware as a naive teenager doesn't mean that he never knew past that point that he was an RSO, how long did it take for him to find out? At what point did he take action? - There is nothing stopping the MrBeast company from helping people walk. The attitude of blaming someone for restricting you from filming something you could easily do anonymously without filming actively pisses me off. Maybe there is more to it, I find it unlikely but I'd like to hear more. - I think you are too harsh on Jake Weddle, he too said in the video that Delaware was just rumours and water cooler talk, I also think that he wasn't trying to imply the war crime stuff wasn't a joke, I think that fact he was laughing in the clip goes against that (but, I agree it was overblown by people). Yes, in theory he could have left at any time but he claims he was allegedly pressured into staying, that's the claim that needs to be searched.
Those are the only problems though, which when you think about it, none were brought up by Dawson which goes to show how much he lied. Enjoyed the video, gonna check out more of your channel
I'm sorry for having insulted your hair. Clearly, they are that way because they hold powers beyond our comprehension and you have been holding back your eldritch cereal powers until now.
when videos like this come out after drama i usually click off and think of it as some rage bait or some young overly defensive kid. But i genuinely believe in Soggy Cereal.
here is my thoughts all dogpack 404 stuff he has said was a lie that doesn't mean i should apologize to mr beast crypto and nft is a scam and it's obvious teaching kids to gamble is also bad even lunchly but for now i have learned my lesson i will never believe anything in the internet until there's true evidence it's best to do more research before finding it's true or false
I am 15 minutes into the video, I agree with everything. However, I do want to point out the alledged AI generated voice recording might be real, and that the person who sent it might have gotten scared of a potential law-suit so they backed out last minute and called it AI generated. The weekend after Weddle released the video, Mr Beast did also release his new collection of toy, there is no way anyone other than a Mr Beast employee would have known that Mr Beast is releasing toys.
Edit: just something I noticed, wanted to voice it out because I'd feel good about myself if someone else agreed haha
@@klank9409 What I remember is, someone sent it to Weddle, then that person said they were just trolling and that it was AI generated. It is still really odd they knew about Mr Beast's Toys 1 week before he announced it to the public.
The only thing I disagree with is that Rosana and Jake being manipulated by Dogpack. Rosana has had an obsessive hate for Mr Beast since that stupid hide and seek video. This just allowed her to fan the flames. Jake took the opportunity and got a ton of eyes on his channel, as well as $50k from Mr Beast.
the original milk chocolate tasted like weak dark chocolate now the new one tastes like milk chocolate with little flavour still needs work if its going to be the best!!! better than the first attempt!!!
We really need to mind the fact that some "unbiased" youtuber flew overseas and conveniently asked all the right questions, then Jimmy popped his head in to say thanks.
after watching the video i think it's very easy for both sides to fabricate evidence, take words out of context, and get people to lie, i just found jimmy's comment weird for all the reasons ethan stated. i don't really trust dogpack, jimmy or this guy
@@ethan_00001no no, I agree with you. Something smells fishy. Jimmy MrBeast said he wouldn’t make a response until “all of the allegations about me have come out”, yet he’s responding in this very comment section and calling all of the allegations “baseless slander”. That is extremely suspicious.
I do doubt Dogpack404 now but there is still something that feels off. This video blew up and Mrbeast himself commented on it within 24 hours. I know its kind of an uncommon opinion but MrBeast commenting on this video so soon after the video came out feels off. Anyway, its just my opinion, I am only on it due to the drama.
Quick corrections Delaware; I don't believe the allegation was ever that jimmy intentionally hired an RSO, the allegation was that he didn't do the background check, thus accidentally hiring an RSO. People kind of twisted it into saying that he intentionally hired an RSO "War crimes"; yeah, of course the war crime thing was a joke that just got out of hand. Weddle was just cracking up telling it to dogpack. Dogpack twisted that into trying to make it seem serious, but I don't think it worked well. All the commenters talking about it are purely joking.
I respect you for being a true journalist, but everyone makes mistakes, so I'll just try and list them for you to improve
Politics have gotten into youtube and grown to the size bigger, than celebrity drama... Now there is no place, besides god forsaken forums, where there wouldnt be "parties" doing 8d chess with each other and common folk bum holes and the rest wouldnt feel like mindless masses being bossed around and left out of the situation to be taken advantage of in the future
At this point i dont care anymore, is Mrbeast a shitty person? sure. Is Dogpack a shitty person? sure. Is Soggy Cereal probably a shitty dude? sure. Youtube drama has gone to the point of being a meaningless back and forth, between people who are manipulating information. Its a waste of time and energy, and i am beyound caring anymore
Just because DogPack isn't a picture perfect guy doesn't mean we should discredit everything he said, same goes for Mr. Beast. Just watch from the sidelines and wait for the truth to rear its head. In the end, I believe ALL OF THIS would be cleared up if Jimmy just responded, but because he's taking the silent approach, it's leading a bunch of people to either support dogpack or just remain indifferent to it all.
To be fair, i did not trust him ever since he used the "I used to work for Mr.Beast" because of "Posible vengeneance video", but after i saw him in a police custom?, i just called bs to every single thing coming out of him, any one who does that in a not ironic way is, at the very least, weird. Is his case, he was just an annoying assole
i always knew something was fishy with dogpack like bro came out of nowhere and started saying stupid allegations with no proof and everyone is following this
Did you watch it? That part is like the end of the vid with only 1/20 of the the whole vid. If anything I don’t trust the guy who claims to have insider knowledge while only work for Mr Beast for 20 days, won’t show proof (keep showing anonymous messages which are so easy to fake).
@@Adin2346 i searched strawman and the first thing i got is this : (an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument. "her familiar procedure of creating a straw man by exaggerating their approach") strawman is basically deforming the argument into an extremist like argument that can't be reasonably be defended at least this what i understood.
@@Adin2346 i don't remember what dogpack said exactly but i'am 90% sure he was just saying that it's sketchy and unethical to put your staff as a contestant which is in my opinion. but what S.C doing is jumping to conclusions it's like when someone says i don't like dating X and someone jumps in and says : so you hate X !! you look inferiorly on X don't you?.
ok you lost me when you claimed the philantropy helped millions of people. a) not even close b) most of that so called philantropy is just show and no actual help c) if actually good charities were given the money, they would manage to do much more good than mr beast d) mr beast is a billionaire afaik. if he is all about doing good, why does he have so much money?
@@Arandomuser610 what? The Mr beast corporation last year made $700 million in revenue. It is safe to assume that Mr beast is a multi-billion-dollar corporation
@@dervakommtvonhinten517 and it's common sense you don't have to call him a fanboy so you actually need to grow up and to get a brain and wtf do you mean by the last part "charity even just 1 million people" like what
Will you go out of your room today Tony or just going to sit on the computer again? Mommy miss you very much and want you to go outside again. Also it time to change your diaper honey. ❤️❤️❤️
When the video came out, I commented about Higehiro not being about that at all on Rosana's video... Just checked, it got deleted :/ (However, I want to state that even if we assume everything you showed was true, Jimmy would still be an a*hole: The evidence about Shadman, Market manipulation, the hospital, and similar stuff are simply unrefutable since we can, and I have, check for ourselves. While the rest of the accusations rely on detective work, those are for everyone to see on Wayback machine.)
Do you have proof that any fake philanthropy happened or just watch a youtube vid or on twitter and just believe it? Sure cgi to make stuff look worse is bad but they did built wells and hospital so idk how you think that just mean everything are fake? Please just not care about anything online in the future if you not going to do any actual research. It because of this that lead to Trump’s voter searching “What is a tariff?”.
that's either just TeamTrees/TeamSeas being about publicity around a topic instead of effectiveness which was the goal from the beginning, some CGI used in a few scenes in a few videos, which is only a way to stretch what was done (for the purpose of making it prettier in the video, not as a direct claim) and not faking an entire philanthropic effort even though that was questionable, the repeated scenes on the wells video that could be lazy editing and not proof that the wells with those numbers weren't built (you don't see the majority anyway, as it's a compact video), or a single organization that wasn't paid because the funds given by MrBeast's team weren't forwarded by SEE International.
don't think this justifies saying it's "fake philanthropy", unless there is more.
Mr beast is a bad person but dogpack is even worse and like, the lore is worse than the fnaf lore at this point so like i dont know shit about this stuff but that lunchly is bad and mr bad dogpack said
I never believed Dogpack but everyone else did, and eventually I thought that I was probably wrong. I never shared my opinions because everyone believed him, and a lot of people seemed more qualified than me on the matter. I never let that feeling that something was wrong go though. Always trust your gut.
On the topic of warcrimes.. was it one? Probably not. Was Jake "detained"? Definitely not, but if you think that being featured in a Mr. Beast isn't coming with a lot of pressure. Jimmy is also very focused. If he had a day 1 flop in the challenge he'd probably never put Jake in a leading role again, if nothing else because of how expensive these things are to organize. Saying that Jake "could've just left at any time" is incredibly disingenuous.
so it is bad when dogpack records someone, but when the ceo record him, it is another matter? soggy is in the whole video like, dogpack is manipulative, but at the same time, he does the same thing
This is incredibly similar to Dogpack‘s video in terms of style, which doesn’t really sit right with me if he actually wants to seem trustworthy. (I don’t believe any of these people. I think Mr. Beast is shady, because he had controversies before this, but I also don’t want to Parrot Dogpack or this guy.)
Your entire argument against Dawson, is this: "He says "Trust me bruh" and we just gotta believe him."
Your video is the exact same crap. The people you're interviewing still work with Mr. Beast or have a connection to him that they wish to remain positive. All of it is literally "Trust me bruh" too. This video means about as much as you make Dogpack's vids out to be. You're all just spewing crap. Meanwhile Coffeezilla actually comes out with actual documented proof of real allegations and stuff that Jimmy STILL refuses to answer.
See here's your problem Cereal man.. its not Dogpack's lack of proof. It's Jimmy's lack of any response with any substance.. and the fact your vid is LITERALLY the exact same.. that 1 dollar detective work really shows here man. And after dealing with CCP shills my entire life due to my friends being Chinese Dissidents, I can't even fully trust you cause firstly- there's nothing you can say that doesn't debunk the fact that Jimmy might be paying you here.
I want to believe Mr. Beast is a great guy, he inspired me as a kid. But all I get out of this is.. "Both Jimmy and Dogpack are crap, and Cereal and Beast employees are just saying shit.." And you're using the SAME clipping shit that you're accusing Dogpack of.. "OH MR. BEAST FUNDED ME.. BUT-" show the rest of that but man.. this is Authoritarian Government levels of "Clipping out of context" And I should know.. again.. I'VE SEEN IT PERSONALLY.
@@artoriapendragon3234 I highly doubt it, dogpack and the people who defended him actively called anyone who cricized his content a "mrbeast glazer" and everytime dogpack published a video one day later you have people debunking arguments in his videos due to his lack of research.
Just compare their coverage by seeing how many times did dogpack show actual evidence for his claims or when did soggy show actual evidence, dogpack showed multiple annonymous employees which were inherently tied to his credibility and soggy showing multiple people with faces and names which you can actually research.
Acting like dogpack's coverage on the topic is on the same level as soggy's coverage as being both full of crap is frankly an absurd argument.
@@EmptyShark To sum up my wall of text, I agree with you. But I don't want to enjoy their content cause they don't deserve my views or me adding to their stats imo.. but that's totally opinion of course.. everyone does what they do. I'm guilty of reading Harry Potter and playing Hogwarts Legacy even though I disagree with Rowling's opinions on Trans people after all .
@@EmptyShark the same can be said of Dogpack's evidence too, its why it hit so hard when his vid is pretty low quality and barely anybody knows him. This is literally green apple vs red apple, they're both apples, and like you said- its not good vs evil, its crap vs bigger crap, it's the US goddang election. That's what pisses me off about this. We already KNOW all that crap about weddle and dogpack and he's putting it out there like its news that changes everything.. and Jimmy Commenting on his page makes it even MORE sus given how SILENT he's been on everything else. Overall.. Soggy ain't as trustworthy as he'd like us to think he is here imo, and we should all take what he says.. and what his interviewees say with as much salt as we take Weddle's statements and Dogpack's own evidence.
I mean some of the evidence Soggy pointed out are very easy to see. If you're not satisfied, you can just do the research yourself. The thing is there is almost always never a "good vs evil" "light vs dark" in real life. Mr Beast is a scum, no doubt. Especially after watching coffee's vid on him, it becomes clearer. But that doesnt mean dogpack is clean either. If dog could lie once then he could too next. If he could, then soggy can too. The point is it's better to take everything on internet with a grain of salt. As hard as it is, the best way to survive on internet is not being attached to any particular creator. You can enjoy their contents and there is no need for anything more. It will just expose you to their manipulations otherwise.
to anyone here, as someone who studies history, do not choose any side. You go on a side as far as you agree with the interpretation. some allegations are more likely to be true than others, accept those, but don't trust all of them. accept that mrbeast has done charity and value that, but do not think he is a perfectly good person. there is no in the middle, there is no on one side, and there is no queen of england. you just have to be at a reasonable point between likely, unlikely and false.
Haven't watched the video yet, just wanna say the content cop intro is fire, and it's cool to see the whole "content cop" thing has transcended iDubbbz
Something that irked me is that... the fucking Geneva Convention only applies when you're actively at war or otherwise engaged in an armed conflict. And I highly doubt Jimmy has ever been engaged in any armed conflicts.
Another reason as to why people were more inclined to believe dogpack(including me) was the fact that mr beast went radio silent on his twitter while this was going on and broke the silence with the announcement of lunchly in collaboration with logan paul and ksi(content creators that are pretty shaddy) and the lack of acknowlegment on the whole situation. And another factor as to why people became more critical of mr beast with these allegations was the fact that you couldn't criticise mr beast without people defending him with the acts of charity that he has done(which should be put under question marks as well). Honestly these are my opinions and I could be wrong
Now everybody will be on Mr Beast's side and hate on dogpack, then there will be another vid on Mr Beast and people will just change sides and makes useless slop videos.
this isnt the hitpiece you think it is, dogpack is unhinged many times, but showing an audio recording of him wanting to retain his job is the most normal thing anyone will ever do. Have you people never worked in your lives, earning livelihood is no joke... and then again the "but muh philantropy" argument, bill gates is a "philantropist" but nobody, rightfully so, defends his deplorable actions because of it...
The cp doesnt matter if it was in the end or not, Ava sent it BELIEVING IT WAS, that is the whole contention, maybe not with dogpack but with the public
This video is the definition of "tell me you've been paid by Mrbeast without telling me you've been paid by Mrbeast" because if Dogpack404 was actually dishonest and lying, Mrbeast would be the first one with his PR team to address it, not some cereal guy YouTuber.
@@breter98 took him 3 months to have a law firm "disprove" the stuff on twitter, which was only 2 pages.
Then the cease and desist, and while there are a lot more, the beast himself commented on this video without really watching it (didnt know he'd get critized aswell).
Personally, i think while it does explain why dogpack did what he did with a grudge, doesnt mean he is entirely wrong, and that even if not everything was done poorly by jimmy, he certainly is bad for censoring comments n other stuff. Comment back if you dislike my opinion, yeah?
The only honest here in this video is soggy. I know u soggy u have alot of questions that u know their lying in front of your face but. Thank god you didn't screw up🙏❤️.
Im so so glad that you made this, i was interested in the dogpack stuff but never really knew how serious to take it. Once he uploaded the second one where jake cried and did that "warcrime" """""joke"""""" i was very confused since thats not something to joke about even tho him laughing for me made it clear that he didnt mean it, however it really doesn't excuse the fact he did it. Thank you soggy for clearing up everything, ima share this vid with many ppl i know. I am glad to see a movie length video since i've been watching basically since you started youtube, thanks for putting in so much work and keep it up!
im just going to stop listening to anything MrBeast good or bad. But i must ask why didnt they respond properly to anything serious. Also Logan Paul is awful
i hated how when ludwig asked him how does he know there was a yacht, he insulted lud instead of answering. Ludwig got shit for asking a simple question
Ya'll, have some brain. Don't trust or take a side so blindly. I feel like when this vid gets popular, it'll become Mr. Beast's defenders to use against the opposition. Stop, that ain't it. Mr. Beast is still bad, and now DogPack is too. Also on the fence with this vid because his source is backed up with one credible(?) person the whole time up until the interview.
Honestly the best thing atp is to just grab your popcorn and watch this entire shit unfold (or just simply not care at all) and then wait and see how things end up, im not taking any sides until everything has been assessed so we can actually be certain on who's right and who's wrong
If this is true Mr. Beast employees and Jimmy Donaldson himself should be suing Dogpack404 for defamation against all of them instead of interviewing for a drama video on YouTube.
After all, according to this video, discovery will go in their favor. They have nothing to hide because they’ve already admitted to all their wrongdoings.
That they’re going to YouTube instead of to court should call into question everything contained in this video.
@@unsyoutube9768 if you’re that curious about my deal, it’s because I was recovering from the flu and my mind was too foggy to do lacework or research the subject I’m actually working on (although it is adjacent to controlling public narratives, funnily enough). When my fever started breaking I deleted most of my comments since I realized I didn’t want to be associated with ongoing propaganda.
Now that my fever broke for real I’ve already lost interest in this.
But if you see me commenting on drama again you can assume I’m taking a work break or have a cold. Usually true.
This video is worse than I remember it btw. That’s flu brain for you.
Mr Beast still sucks and you didn't really disprove anything, mr Beast still did everything Dog Pack said and you are doing the exact same thing Dog Pack did by making this video
I’d like to say something about the boys v girls video. In the challenge with the Rubik’s cubes, the “only” boy who could solve a cube was offered money to leave. Somehow, the boys still won the challenge. As someone who can solve a cube, it is not at all intuitive and not possible to solve without a tutorial. So either Jimmy beast lied about there only being one boy who could solve one, or he rigged that part. Just an interesting detail I noticed
There's a decent amount of bad info on here and usually love your videos while dog pack isn't great this feels more like a petty revenge video that's missing a lot of research just like a dog pack video
@@dsebbebridge2674 to me that doesn't matter because he has a malicious hatred of dogpack and a slightly negative view of Mr. Beast as soon as I heard how he described each of them it was obvious he favored Mr beast side more than dog packs
@@dsebbebridge2674 It's still glazing if Mrbeast himself doesn't respond and a random ass youtuber has to make a video to defend him. All I'm saying is that if dogpack was lying, Mrbeast would literally be the first one to address it to save his image from false information. Use some common sense next time.
Although Dogpack definitely did some real fucked shit, it still opened up a discussion about his actions whether it be past or current ones. For instance the crypto stuff or payments not being received.
I just hope that people don't flip their opinion like a pendulum swing. Yes a-lot of the claims about the MrBeast company have been misleading or outright lies but as you said in the video there is still a-lot of things that need accounting for. People on the internet have a sort of tendency to see the world in black and white. I'm guilty of this two but guys...
AMAZING VIDEO SOGGY you legit DESTROYED dogpack i had a feeling all his videos were a cashgrab / bullshit if you have another mr beast video in mind i have more info.... from insiders
Dogpack404 didn't do enough in depth research on the accusations he accused MrBeast of, he made a lot of assumptions that he saw on video without doign like really any interview, almost any thing that a MrBeast employee said defending about MrBeast, he brushed it off as them getting paid to say that. He knew that people will believe him, and they won't bother to research, so he will get that clout.
aaaaaa the SlopTuber Deceit Detector is going off the chart!
Just a quick thought. Why would you assume Chris' intention when telling beast about the anime was to show him that "its wholesome".
We all know he just in for the little kid bru stop trying to pull the "mrbeast didn't know!!" card we all saw The video of him staring down shadman's "art" bru.
Like thats if you say that theres no pattern to serial killers, theres always some sort of pattern, and Chris' pattern of Diddling is quite obvious he "enjoys" media featuring little Kids.
The fact you leave out so Much context in the "false cp allegation" section is just. Bruh.
I love how it doesn't matter whoever you're talking about or accusing, the bad things are always true when trannies are involved, holy fucking shit, when are we going to hunt down those people?
everything was already such a red flag n then 13 minutes in i hear you say he "slips up" About a joke that was clearly like a half joke the whole time.. by clarifying that it was both a joke and was true.. Dogpack seems like a weirdo but you're trying too hard to be idubbbz Sometimes people are complicated n don't suck Bad video very poorly made and poorly executed. Also you're annoying
I couldn't care less if Dogpack404 is a bad person because if the things he is saying about MrBeast are true then that was the whole point, exposing MrBeast Company of its wrongdoings and outright illegal shit. I feel like we are just side stepping the whole conversation that MrBeast is in fact not a good person and instead scrutinizing the individual that exposes him. Also we can talk about two things at the same time yk, sure it's good to get the truth out for someone to see him for who he really is(Dogpack404), however I think that things the he is accusing The MrBeast Company for are much MUCH more severe than what dirt we can pull out of Dogpack's Closet, because then people will just not find him credible anymore which helps MrBeast get his name cleaned when there is some bad shit that he did. So I feel like we should first settle if the accusations Dogpack makes are true so we can hold MrBeast accountable and then we can look into Dogpack.
This video did justice honestly , even if Mr beast is kinda shady for Crypto , it was really a fool of me to believe dogpack stuff without checking , which I felt were kind of going a bit too far anyways
This proves that videos and audios displayed in a controversy videos are still unreliable depending on how much they reveal and show clarity. Just because something exist in a form of a media to be used as 'evidence' doesn't mean it tells the real, full picture of the story, and can be vaguely fabricated in some sort of way, just to further ruin someone's image not just deeply, but permanently. I knew something was off with Dogpack404 initiating this controversy demonstrating his proof, but at the same time expressively making fun of mrbeast's action, with his often dramatical expressions, has a negative behavior rather than a neutral one, almost as if like he's a villian.
Honestly, im only commenting to boost this video on the algorythm. I hate defamation, and i always felt off with the whole dogpack stuff, im glad there are actual facts coming out and stuff. The plot thickens indeed...
Hi Soggy I’d love if you also discuss about the video on building wells and the hospital cgi controversy. I am also really curious about the perspectives of the people the team had worked with when creating these philanthropy videos (e.g. Dora from Mapapa) to know if what they did are truly helping them after the filming! Not to mention there is also a bit of controversy over whether TeamSeas is actually helping marine life or not as well. Nevertheless thank you for this really informative video
And you listened to what she said it meant from a business perspective? Like "don't instantly take no for an answer find another way" because yaknow if you're running a business and just take every no as a hard stop your business makes it nowhere. Surprisingly enough a saying can have more than one meaning
dude this really restored my hope in humanity a little bit. not because i think mr beast is not bad or anything like that but when i was watching the dogpack video, i was like "no way mr beast got away with this much lies, no way he fooled everyone for this long" and turns out yeah we weren't actually fooled about everything
I maintained a position of being on the fence during this whole thing but I always felt that what Dawson was saying was a load of shit with some truths sprinkled in. I did alude to that publicly though because of me being a niche online person that nobody cares about (And the fact that Twitter forces a pay to win option to express opinions now, fuck that), I didn't get that much hate about it. Stucky was a very good person that called Dawson out on a lot of his bs and I think he helped show that to people, but I think this video is further proof, especially with proper sources to disprove Dawson's """arguments""" , and the evidence that I already knew about why he was fired and his large online footprint, it just shows his claim about not doing it for personal gain was a fucking lie. I didn't really trust Dawson that much from the start and I really hate that so many people believed him. There are genuine criticisms to call Jimmy out on, but Dawson was quite literally the worst person to spearhead this whole "Mr. Beast is a bad guy" thing.
@@Arandomuser610 the thing is that the possible lawauit was because He couldnt handle being criticised by the person in question. That's an asshole move
@@Blazearrowin my country getting married at 16 years old is considered normal like my mom keeps telling me other 16 year olds would have had children by now so I don't think threatening to sue a minor a bad thing but I guess in America it's a bad thing
Dogpack 404, he is up to something more, Scheming and deceiving, it's fraud to the core. Watch out for his tricks, don't fall for his lore, Dogpack 404, always looking to score.
To be honest with you, the “Slop content is ruining YouTube” video was bad, but this video is more than compensation; it's a reward. It's the most nuanced and smart take I may have ever seen from the Mrbeast defender's side.
I’m not spending an hour on this bullshit. Idk what the motivations behind Dog Packs videos were, Mr Beast has been shown to be a greedy grifting ass hat. Plus I don’t trust anyone who’s eye look dead when they smile. Mr Beast is a symptom of a greater problem. When people like him and the Paul brothers are making millions while others suffer to get by it’s just gross. People who worship celebs are gross. Humans are just trash in general it appears. While I’m at it Fuck Elon Musk. Eat the rich.
I've been investigating your video for the past 10 minutes (laughs) and I don't like how you frame Jake Weddle in it.
You showed some pretty dark tweets from May 2020 (so... pandemic tweets). You did this to suggest that he wasn't in the right headspace to do this isolation challenge.
Are they really his deleted tweets? Did you verify that in any way? No? Then why are you doing this?
I'm pretty sure that he did the challenge around July 2021 based on the screenshots of his private messages that were shared. Yes, they are in dogpack404's video, but I don't think dogpack404 changed the dates on those chats. Also: Jake Weddle made a video "why i left Mrbeast" in November 2020. He did the challenge after he left the company so even if dogpack404 changed the dates because "reasons" it's still some time AFTER those maybe his tweets.
And the thing that you said at the beginning.... Are you serious? Are you seriously downplaying this isolation challenge? Are you seriously victim blaming?
In the end both you and dogpack played the Content Cop role beautifully. And that's not a compliment cause iDubbbz's series was just punching down on people garbage. Go boys!
Looking at the current state of things i think DogPack Did get his revenge and ruin the mrbest image for everyone. Although did this put a stain on mrbest image he will recover from this eventually. If you think about it All he wanted to do is not prove mr beast is bad he wanted to ruin thier image to get revenge on firing him from that company.
I have watched higehiro (the anime from around 31:00) and Its not just a 28yo going out with a 17yo. if someone wants me te elaborate then ill type some more
Honestly even if some of the stuff you say is true, why ain't Mr.Beast's team coming out to debunk the false accusations? Why's some random jerk on the internet like you getting involved when the major issues with Mr.Beast are proven to be true simply by the fact that mr.beast's crew didn't address any of the major allegations and instead is staying quiet, they addressed minor issues just like you did with the "whenever the warcrime thing was a joke or not", get to the point, nobody cares about the minor issues, your input in this was completely unnecessary.
The funniest part is, Dawson said that MrBeast or anyone close to him will probably say that DogPack is a obsessed MrBeast fan and a disgruntled employee, and here we are, him getting called a disgruntled employee and a obsessed MrBeast fan with lots of proof. Was he trying to cover himself up for later in case he got exposed? Maybe. Quite possibly.
@@Stagpro99 at 1:04:22 he showed one of the employees names I dont know about the others though but in my opinion soggy is way more trust worthy than dogpack
@ While I do agree on keeping people anonymous, it’s a little strange that if these people were planning on being anonymous, then CS should of at least gone the extra mile to have hid their faces and changed their voices. And considering that dogpack has tried to expose these people that they were “actors” then why is CS concealing this if he isn’t hiding their faces from the Internet. You must surely agree that the stakes would require this if CS wasn’t planning on keeping employees and other people anonymous.
@spiderdog2712 have watched the video, and I’d say that most of this has no proper cross checking and most of this stuff doesn’t have ground evidence. For example these “interviews” that soggy cereal brought up don’t have full names. Which makes it hard to find out if these people are actually real. Another thing to point out is that the two channels that SC has recommended have came out supporting me beast or have started their channel debunking dog packs video. TL:DR don’t open your mind to random things that other people come out with that have may/may not be supported by Mr Beast.
@@MrMarcusGD No dates for posts, random people with second names covered up, vague cross checking, even Mrbeast commenting on the video. Seems sketchy to me.
I dislike the style of dogpack's "exposures" and that's why I clicked on this video with hope of actual "Debunking". Sadly I got a guy who thinks he is in mrbeast's defense team. Why?
@@grimvengeance7445 It is an actual debunking. The whole video is him addressing each claim one by one. The video is already timestamped in the description according to each claim. idk what more you want..
The only thing that confuses me is that you were able to debunk most of Dawson's accusations, but MrBeasts PR team couldn't defend him properly even once.
I think it would matter, because everybody read Chucky's response and agreed that it was terrible and unprepared. If Chucky or anybody else from mrbeast made a response like this one from Soggy, DogPack would've been destroyed a while ago.
When I saw Dogpacks first video, I thought hmmm maybe there is something there, but second and third assured me that he's a clown and a manipulator, together with Rosana P. and Crybaby Jake... Mr. Beast may did some inappropriate things but far from that what they were trying to present... And if he did, they ruined the chance for someone to expose him properly.
you guys left a lot out and acting like mr beast did nothing bad he still did bad stuff
-running illegal game shows by not having a standards and practice person on payroll
-still ran illegal lotteries the t shirts and using his feastables as a pay to win roulette scam for a lambo and gave people fake signed merch
-using he child audience to restack feastables for a chance at 5000 dollars
-being shady and lying on multiple videos
@@JulieWooly-pn6tx no he didnt i came up with that list from watching him he never talks with the employees about if if mr beast has a standards and practice person on payroll he never talks about the feastable lotteries only the livestream lotteries and never talks about jimmy having his friends fake his signature while signing shirts and he told people to fix feastable displays for a chance to win 5000 which never was payed out
@@luukienquoc1251 never said he was just said he left a lot of things out he only talked about mr beast for about 2 mins and said he is deceptive thats it in a hour 30 mins the only bad thing he says is mr beast lies about how long his ads are when he left a lot out
He talked about all that except for the restacking feastables lol, maybe watch the video? Also standard and practices is for broadcast TV, not for youtube, they clearly proved to take safety seriously nonetheless
soggy cereal wasnt defending anyone here, he just show the truth. he didn’t say that because dogpack404 is a horrible person, that doesn’t disprove how bad mr beast is.
I was initially REALLY skeptical about why so many major channels that cover drama suddenly didn't cover the MrBeast stuff, and how, while a completely reasonable reason for penguinz0 to step away from doing drama stuff that he doesn't feel fun in covering, he decided to quit at the exact same time as so many others. I was thinking it was either because they were threatened by MrBeast with so much power that they couldn't speak against him, were also secretly in cahoots with him, or that the entire situation was so fuckin' messy that they simply couldn't cover it without getting more shit in their mouths and faces without ever being able to organise the entire story.
Now that I watch this video, it's very clear that there are so many stories pointing fingers, and unless I do my own research I don't even have a way of knowing how true THIS video is either. So I'm just guessing that the reason people don't cover the MrBeast stuff is because it's messy, and I hope that's the case.
This is another league above your previous work as well as the work of most creator's in this space.
The only criticism I have after watching this on about 4 different streams and now coming back to the original is the cumnuggies bit.
It's hilariously ironic given the dumb shit he has said and he still doesn't understand bad framing or context despite this, but I think you should add some additional clear clarification around his discord gooning.
He didn't seek out or engage in that stuff, he was reporting it to mods as you show, but I think you should still have added further clarification lol.
Still, it is very very funny.
Also I don't think it's unreasonable to conclude that Jimmy was aware of Tyson's degeneracy and the evidence for this predates Dogpack sucking up all the oxygen from the conversation. The exact degree to which he knew as well as how culpable he is for anything involving Kris is still up for debate though imo.
59:46 Okay, I'm gonna have to stop the video and call you out for your lies and manipulation. That was clearly a pencil and not a crayon. I just don't know who to believe anymore.
This video just getting 170k views in a day is an embodiment of how agreeing with the popular allegations and blindly hating Mr Beast is the norm. This was a very well though out and researched video with things to backup for it. I also found it weird that people were immediately jumping on the Dogpack404 bandwagon when the allegations came out , because they didnt have any substantiated evidence. Really hope this video and channel blows up .
This situation is probably the most frustrating YouTube drama in a very long time, so much so that it’s honestly better to just not pay any bit of attention to anything related to MrBeast from now
13:47 - 14:11 is kinda ridiculous counterargument. If something is a war crime under the geneva convention, then if a non-military person tortures the same way an ordinary citizen during time of peace, it's by no means any better. There's no "joke" here, it was an extremely messed up (and illegal) thing to do.
@@PabloWitkowicz He wasn't forced there - He had been working there and wanted to be in front of camera for once instead of behind the scenes (this is something Jake said himself in Dogpack's second video). He wasn't forced to take up the opportunity or stay there, hence why he got out after 10 days. He said he couldn't do it anymore, and they let him out. He still got paid a significant amount of money - and for someone who "Needed the money", he spent it pretty fast on [checks notes] STAND UP COMEDY????... instead of pressing matters like his student loan and placing some of it in savings?
@@j-smith00 I'm really curious how you'd act if you had $300k waved in front of your face, the argument "he wasn't forced to be there" isn't very strong when so much money is on the line for a person that needs the money.
I really love and appreciate the work you do and lengths that you go through to put the truth in neutral light. Amazing investigative work man. Keep the good stuff up.
This is very interesting. I would like to see a full video of all of the real allegations from MrBeast as you can actually do research. It's sad that I trusted Dogpack for so long.
HAHAHA!!! This is pure gold! Dogshit404 is going to lose sleep. Inb4 I'm a mrbeast glazer or w/e the kids use these days for talking ill of dogshit404.
Something fishy is going on behind the scenes here, why does this video have so little views/like+comments, and how hasnt this video got 200k views in over a day when ik soggy's videos normally get more views then this at the release of videos. Anyway love ya soggy, love your videos and so glad to see an ACTUAL spiritual successor to content cop, instead of Dogpack. Well researched and explained as usual!
bros gonna blow up after this one man i love your content always have i think i started at AIRRACK also I wanted to mention Airack/MB prank thing i bought a sweater not only did it come like a year late i frogot about it but it was the WORST feeling sweater ever and the "image" looked like it was one big sticker like a sweat shop made it
I don't want to say that I knew something was up because like many, I blindly believed a lot of what Dogpack was saying, but because of the sheer amount of accusations being thrown around, and how messy he made everything, it made it really hard to fact check everything that he said, especially since he had so many people vouch for him that I thought I could trust (Jake, Oompa and Rosanna). Even this video is very convoluted so I think he did it on purpose to try and obscure people from going out and doing their own research.
u adress like 1 part of each allegation, e.g lottery but you leave out the timing thing/fake signatures mack mansion but you dont adress the rigging etc..
Interesting insightful comment you have made here- no- revolutionary. You should be given a noble piece prize for this. This has opened my eyes to every problem I’ve ever had in my life- the way that it’s worded is the best thing my eyes have ever marveled on. Thank you for writing this absolutely brilliant comment. I will always remember this in my life and be sure to frame it on my wall for extra motivation.
TLDR: You are a breath of forested mountainy Fresh Air. You restore my faith that integrity is not all lost in this fucking shit-show joke of a content saturated nonseical gobbilty gooq land of the low IQ, low attention span, low, or rather nonexistent critical thought----mostly bot filled---internet , and especially Tube of the You that used to be genuinely cool shit. Now it's just beastification, livestream nonsense, non creative people just watching other people who are in fact creative, and critiquing or even worse, REACTING to their fucking content as if their opinion was the hand of midas. (especially if you happened to be an attractive phe-male) Much MUCH love .
I was confused at first because when I watched the video Dawson came off as a disgruntled employee like you said but when I tried to find anyone who said that I found only one thing and that person got hate now the tables are turning and I just believed him after because I didn’t know what else to do Innever subscribed I did watch all the videos and I still am not supporting Mr Beast at all anymore
As many people have said, everything is not black and white. Both can be bad people. I've started to see people now saying "oh mrbeast is a victim, he just did nice things and he gets punished for it" a few lies doesn't change the situation that he did awful things, that he is an enabler, etc
So instead of Mrbeast addressing the allegations and using receipts and other forms of evidence to prove his innocence; He sent his slave employees and zombie fans to defend him like he’s a pimp, and they are his whores. Nice.
soggy cereal cancelled his friend airrack wdym. and even in the video he said lunchly sucks why would mrbeast pay someone to say that? you’re thinking 1 sided.
@@cerealhit555 what horrible stuff has mr beast done that cereal says isn't bad? Dogpack404 was a secular religion everyone on the internet worshipped and created a hate train on Mr beast, who was innocent of 99.999% of the claims dogpack said. Dogpack should be sued for defamation and be deplatformed for life.
What's W about it? He said nothing that adds to previous drama, essentially says horrible stuff isn't that bad and talks like he's been on tiktok for a decade in a row. Do you people just say W about anything now?
The REAL Truth About MrBeast Accusers. Thats the correct title you muppet. And while you at it - with your high horse, please cover all of the other mrbeast allegations as well. im sure you would do a better job than DogPack404. Or are you just the same as DogPack404, alleging its "The REAL Truth" while not cover every single one of his allegations.
Not even within the first 10 minutes, there’s inconsistencies how can we prove that the guy on the call isn’t just making up a lie you have given virtually no proof that this guy is who he says he is other than trust me, bro.
Not only that but your misconstruing with the guy said he said he was on a call with a work friend dog packed didn’t work at the company at this time so someone else must’ve given the evidence to dog pack or the stories just a whole heap of bull
The whole video is a disgusting attempt to whithewash Mr Beast which is insane to me after what he's been exposed to. It looks like if you have enough money you will always have meat riders no matter what
dude nobody is defending mrbeast. Soggy Cereal doesn’t like mrbeast. You can just watch at the end he criticizes mrbeast you don’t have the attention span bruh.
@@Buckleyedo I don't see any "blatant lies and manipulation by Dogpack404". He could have handled the information better ,yes, but it's not manipulative because main points stays the same even if an approved glazer Soggy tries to perform an attack on the character like saying that Vicking is a bad guy (I'm not sure he is not but it doesn't matter. The point is that he confirmed that Jimmy knew that Delaware is an RSO)
@@aleksandrmaksimov2818the whole point is not to “downplay the wrongdoings of Mr. Beast” it’s to show the blatant lies and manipulation by Dogpack404. Did you even watch the video before commenting?
@@jonathanjohnson4594 Bro, the whole point of this video is to downplay of all wrongdoings of Mr Beast which is the definition of whitewashing. Considering that for the past months we found out that Mr Beast had had a groomer Ava Tyson, a RSA Delaware, faked charity videos, created a toxic work culture, had a lawsuit against him and been involved in unethical crypto manipulations we have enough evidence to state that Mr Beast is a piece of shit as a person. Everybody who can't see anything wrong with him just doesn't have the moral compass
Feel like Mrbeasts team gave soggy all the information for this video how did he get so much access too employees and people that have been in challenges
My hate for mr beast wanted me to hate you and this video but im happy to say i can crank that anger toward dogpack and his shadiness instead. Solid video. I still do hate mr beast tho 🤗
Im just glad this is finally over, thank you man for clearing everything. I knew Dogpack was a little off and that some of the allegations might've been false and that Jimmy made mistakes like every person would.
So it would seem dog pack really had us all fooled during that sensitive time of the ava kris crap. Interesting how deep this is getting when I really thought this was gonna be a one and done it is actually becoming a whole damn saga
Who is "we"? Not all of us found Jimmy guilty until proven innocent. Some of us were actually reserving judgment until both sides of the story had come out. You know, like you would want people to do for you if someone was spreading lies about you and trying to ruin your life?
1:23:50 "Debunking" the illegal lotteries at the start of the video and in the very end saying that the first lottery was in fact illegal is very hypocritical by the way.
@@QuickIguana my comment was deleted for some reason but I will reply again. Go to 15:09 of the video and he critisiced this guy for the same thing he did. I wrote a very detailed comment but it was deleted I am not doing that again.
15:09 He critisiced that guy for not mentioning that the clip he played was AI BEFORE he played it and then went ahead and put at the very end of the video proof that MrBeast did infact conduct illegal lotteries instead of including it when he first talked about the illegal lotteries at 16:00. Even if he later discovered proof that the very first lottery was illegal he could have easily edited the video and mention it sooner. Hypocrite. @hellboy9458 @@QuickIguana
He did debunk two illegal lotteries but claimed one is true. How is that hypocritical? He wasn’t debunking illegal lotteries in general; he didn’t claim that all illegal lotteries are false. Where exactly is the hypocrisy in this?
That's not what being hypocritical means. There were 3 illegal lottery allegations, he completely debunked the most recent 2 and when visiting the original, found that it was 100% true.
Everyone is just determined to hate Mr Beast now. People believe he's a bad guy, and people don't like to have their beliefs challenged, so they'll just keep hating Jimmy even if it turns out he was 100% innocent on all accounts, because, for many people, accepting they were wrong about someone and had allowed themselves to be fooled would just be too painful of a thought. They'll prefer to double down on a wrong opinion, even in the face of overwhelming contradictory evidence, than go through the pain and discomfort of changing their mind and admitting they were wrong.
I have mixed opinions. Firstly, I'm confused why everyone assumed dogpack to be a savior. Second, for a lot of the disproven claims you did, he claimed were allegations. He said this in multiple videos. Getting information wrong is not rare. I think it's important to stay in touch with information, but I don't understand the expectations set. Mr. Beast did indeed do illegal gambling--just differently lol. I am for the downfall of Mr. Beast if it includes dogpack or not. You can have your opinions, and I will not deny the fact he made mistakes, though Mr. Beast is a rich man taking advantage of what they think is doing good. Not only is most of it genuinely harmful, but it's put up for show. I think looking into the points is good, but I would love to hear from him as well. I'm sure he will reply, if not I will be disappointed. He did a good thing either way.
@@colewilliamson5742 Ive been homeless multiple times. I’m going to put this out there before I talk about his “oh so great” acts. First of all, team trees and team seas did about little to nothing. I believe team seas or whatever it was called also invested in NFTS. Jimmy personally gambled illegally (and admitted this) when he was underage using cryptocurrency. There are also clips of him using illegal gambling websites in America. I had a grudge against Mr. Beast because a lot of the philanthropy he claims to do is not truly charity. The donations he makes, alongside other very rich individuals, is for tax write offs. Side note, he claimed multiple times that the next individual would get a specific item or money and they did not receive it. I think we’re forgetting a lot of the claims DogPack made that were proven with literal footage. Also, DogPack did. A lot of them were not just alleged because of the fact he had evidence for his claim. He admitted to being wrong on multiple alleged situations because they were alleged. The reason I didn’t like Mr. Beast before this is because there were a lot of issues with his actions involving “giving away” stuff. It’s not really giving it away. He manipulated the audience using titles, which you can argue is just clickbait but are we seriously still using this excuse? Will I say he hasn’t done some good? No. Will I say that just because he has done good that mean we can’t criticize him? No. Jimmy isn’t great as a boss and doesn’t understand how to create a safe work environment. He is irresponsible with money, and times he bought out stores was a net negative for the employees. My logic isn’t stupid. I’m not naive enough to think some rich man is doing everything out of the greatness of his heart. Capitalism has never worked that way.
@@Off1cerearl what an interesting argument. him being involved with others doesn’t mean it’s not bad? also, they didn’t have a big firm like that. they used a personal firm, which even using it while it’s biased due to the fact it’s just Jimmy investigating himself, they still found that there was mistreatment in his company. His CEO was indeed confirmed to be a terrible guy and they’re now replacing him because it was found out. He did illegal gambling on certain websites involving cryptocurrency. Also, yes, saying allegedly in front of it is not misinformation, the term is literally used in the sense that we don’t know if it’s true or not.
if there was other gambaling the investigation from the biggest firm in america which if they are caught lying will be shut down would of said it, but everything was fine and all allegations were denied from including alleged employes and i didnt know spreading misinfo that actualy ruined peoples lives were fine if you say alleged and can you provide examples of mrbeast harming someone or gambling that didnt have logan paul, ksi or amazon in it?
I love how you purposely ignored the evidence which proved Mr. beast innocent in a lot of these "illegal" gambling" just so that you can keep pushing your narrative. Mr. beast has done a lot of good things, and he only got rich fairly recently, and was still learning the world of business. Dogpack404 used the Ava Tyson situation to spread false lies with faked evidence about Mr. beast for money and clout, glad to see the truth finally getting out.
Okay, here’s my response to your comment then. 1: I’m also confused about that tbh. I’m not sure why people took the unbiased facts and evidence from a disgruntled, obsessed employee who was fired. He should NEVER have been trusted.
2: Dogpack also DIDN’T mention that a lot of these claims were allegations. He mentioned directly that some were, and didn’t mention directly for a good amount of them, as shown in the video. The expectations are basically to address whether or not they’re allegations with your own words, not leaving it to viewer interpretation like what could be shown.
3: I’d like for you to tell me what Mrbeast did to make these lotteries “illegal.” He made them up to chance, and pulled from random people, not to mention that you didn’t even need to pay to get in technically.
4: This claim disproved your entire argument here. “I’m for the downfall of Mrbeast if it includes dogpack or not.” That directly claims that you yourself ALREADY had a grudge against Mrbeast before the drama, similar to dogpack. If I interpreted that wrong, then please correct me. And that supports my claims about the expectations. You didn’t directly address that, so I interpreted it how I wanted to.
5: He’s filming the good deeds to get more money, to do MORE good deeds. He’s opened food pantries, built wells, paid for eye surgery, paid for hearing aids, saved dogs from shelters, and has given out MILLIONS to people. If that’s taking advantage of what people think is good, then the rock is taking advantage of what people think is good by helping complete hundreds of Make-A-Wish wishes publicly. You see how stupid that logic is?
Summary: I agree with your claims that dogpack shouldn’t of been trusted in the first place, but due to your seemingly previous grudge to Mrbeast before the drama, and odd, non-specific claims, I just can’t agree with your comment.
(If you want to reply to do this, please do, as I do have a couple things you said that I’m not sure what you meant on. For example, the “all down for the downfall of Mrbeast,” or “taking advantage of what they think is doing good”).
Yeah bro it was truly despicable when he saved the lives of those 100 dogs and then used the money to do even more charity work while he sleeps in his office
This is prove that people will hate one success. They look for ppl to hate on. The dog pack video got millions within a day. This video disproving this one has only 100k 😂
Some people are just biased after 10–15 minutes of watching and came to the conclusion that Soggy is just a glazer/dckrider. It's kind of hypocritical when they have no problem watching 2+ hours of Dogpack videos. There are plenty of those in the comments if you're noticed.
@@QuickIguana Got it so its a video hating on dogpack, i don't love the guy, but its just slop for MrBeast glazers rather than haters, just another bad side of the coin. The entire video is focused on debunking of dawson rather than the claims.
@@KBvidss We did, but this guy was friends with dogpack until he got big, made a video, deleted it cause dogpack responded to it. Soggy also accuses dogpack of faking 'real mrbeast employees' while he does the same with potentially no evidence.He also said at 42:32 that you get milions of views of siding against mrbeast, he also claimed that in his last deleted video and whined about how WestJett, MorePegasus and Dogpack404 got more popular than him for doing nothing. This guy is peak jealousy, which is a shame cause i liked his old videos.
Idk if we watched the same video, but this video has more effort put into it than any slop video I've seen ever, on top of any video I've seen this year in terms of attention to detail and research
@@DanielTurner69-v7q Just admit that you crucified Mr Beast based on lies and don't care what the evidence is, you just can't concede that you allowed yourself to be so easily fooled and would rather double down on a wrong opinion then put your ego through the pain of accepting you made a mistake and changing your mind. There's not a single accusation against Mr Beast that has definitive proof and nearly all of them have now been debunked.
Honestly it’s really sad Soggy had to step up for this shit instead of directly Mr. Beast that had the facts. But really thanks for this amazing journalism Soggy
The Dani and FriendlyJordies energy is strong with this one
(Also W video. Good to have a video resource that breaks down DogPack's conflict of interest and/or dishonesty. A lot of people come in to this with a one-sided retelling. People like you and nicholasdeorio are out-spoken in regards to the full story, but videos like this shed light on that untold half of the story. Good stuff)
@@AaronSmith-rm9klsoggy backstabbed friends for clout. He got so much backlash that he privated or deleted the video. Also in the vid he comes of as either jealous or mad. Lastly he doesn’t really disprove all the stuff he says he disproves.
35:13 This wink in particular though has got to be added in post. The scene matches PERFECTLY with another scene where he just blinked normally. But it's been a while since I looked into it.
Wow dude, even when the guy himself is telling you that it wasn't added in post, you're still like "nah, I know the facts" (specifically facts I got from a man who has been proven to lie constantly)
@@jonathanjohnson4594 And we still haven't heard Jimmy's side of the story, and even Coffeezilla said that he can't be sure if Jimmy is guilty or just the people around him. Are we going to find him guilty until proven innocent again? People have learned nothing from this drama.
MrBeast is definitely not a good person at 53:20 soggy cereal forgets to mention that dogpack said that the video was sped up and the guy touches the laser I don’t think soggy cereal truly debunked the MrBeast allegations
oh my god youre such a cuck chair enthusiast he said mr beast essentially forced him and your response is he said alleged? like no shit thats the most basic legal thing you should do when up against a super rich person who can sue you to the ground and hide evidence easily other people corroborated how awful the story was and even mr beast himself tried to manage the backlash while saying nothing on it just silently trying to pay him more money behind the scenes what a joke video trying to ride off jimbos dick and the delaware part, delaware told jimmy before getting hired that he was a registered sex offender and explained why, his own brother corroborated so you can say its a dumb mistake but when actual children are the centerpoint playing it down like this is so irresponsible and now hes been getting caught up in making millions off of illegal market manipulation he tried to distance himself from, youre on the cuck chair for this guy and your wife doesnt even like his dick but she still thinks its better than urs :/// grow a sack n stop playing lapdog for views also he uses the term alleged a lot while describing that and sending and knowingly allowing assumed childrens nudes is still illegal and weird. and your response is to say wow he searched up to confirm if it was cp thats illegal!! thats so fucking insane what a joke like no shit its illegal but no fucking jury would ever find someone guilty of it in that situation use some fkn common sense n then saying oh if i had a friend who ranted abt pedos sometimes i wld think them calling themselves a sexual predator is a funny joke n wouldnt like notice it as weird for them to be sending what they think is cp, you dance around so much here the anime higehiro is much more controversial in japan because it depicts a literal crime of kidnapping a minor n they never mention or deal with any of the circumstances around the fact that he is legally kidnapping her and make it into some cutesy heartwarming story when it shld be handled way more responsibly but we also see no indication that they even knew any of this shit abt the anime being wholesome or not its a moot point to bring up since you cant prove in any way they somehow knew its wholesome esp after all the other super obvious creepy moments
and this isnt to say dogpack clearly hasnt lied about some things or exaggerated but essentially any large heavily damning claim that there is evidence behind you just dance around with some ideas with no concrete actual proof of, for example, him knowing avas behaviour wasnt weird when all we've seen is mr beast know exactly that and even have art from the loli cp artist in his own home too, you are way too on his dick
@@Queef_Storm you seem pretty upset i called someone other than you a dumbass, are you in the market for a cuck chair i think this guy prolly has a good supplier
Like you know if someone says something when the group is created you know like hello when you join the group all those message that were in before your joined will not be there@@johncaze757
Y'all are Soo annoying time to stop you and dogpack misinformation first of all production yacht is a joke second even if Jake weddle or whatever lie about his friend saying it's a war crime if mrbeast actually did it it would still be a crime I feel like you are just yapping about nothing third of all some of Mr beast videos are definitely rigged for content and the put was fake lol definitely also here is some really bad stuff he didnt debunk
-mrbeast blew up a boat and left scraps instead of cleaning it up
-mrbeast game
-mrbeast cleaning up the ocean with coke when coke made like most Garbage so whoever donated didn't do anything 😂😂
In the 100 well video mrbeast use the same well like 4 times
-mrbeast also did fake like 2/3 of the lotteries
-mrbeast group got leaked with him with the kids 😊
-thinking mrbeast don't use child labour for his chocolate is just glazing
-mrbeast faked the chocolate review video or his team
-end result is just this video is slop glazing meat riding absolutely going ham on mrbeast up down side run doggy style like mrbeast is not inviting you lil bro 😂😂😂😂 People always be defending famous people no matter what they do I am not surprised plus why do people always take the persons word like if am working for mrbeast I ain't snitching and am using the fact I didn't snitch for a pay raise like the fu
@@jonathanjohnson4594 am talking about the other leaks where Chris said he is a sex offender thingy why you defending the guy Soo bad like holy crap the Internet will never learn they will keep bullying other people away from telling the truth and let horrible people keep walking among us like sometimes I wish I could like bring some truth to humanity
@@jonathanjohnson4594 news just in bad people do kind stuff to keep a good image who would've f*ckin thought I guess p Diddy is a nice person for all those charity donations of his
@@jonathanjohnson4594 they said they can handle it and left waste also why all mrbeast fanboys say how much have you donated to charity zero dollar cause I don't have 100 million I could blow on a challenge 🤣🤣🤣
@@jonathanjohnson4594 I would dug a lot more wells if I had a 100 million dollar I would do a lot more stuff if I had a 100 million how about you give me 100 million and I'll show you how much I can build plus I used 4 wells but he could have fake more because he also show the same picture more than 4 times for different wells Soo thank you
holy sh t you're a narcissist. One video proving you were wrong and you go into complete meltdown. Have a good cry about it and then go take a long sip of the yummy liquid mummy keeps under the kitchen sink.
I'm wondering why is Jake Weddle's 'voluntary prison challenge,' which includes sleep deprivation, being considered a war crime? He could have literally refused and left the challenge if he felt mentally weak. In summary, sleep deprivation in this non-conflict setting would not meet the criteria for a war crime.
For example, if I took the challenge of surviving 50 hours in Guantanamo Bay prison and came out with something worse than sleep deprivation, would I have any right to sue MrBeast for committing a war crime, like Jake Weddle?
@@HunterJohnEntertainment the production yacht is a joke by dogpack clearly mrbeast wasn't on the raft Soo he was somewhere else Soo he said production yacht not that hard to understand
The way Dawson looks at the crew (or whoever is behind the cameras) with a smug smile of his face and says "well, I think the CP was the worst part", or whatever it was, in Rosana's video has the same energy of celebrities on talk shows when they say some jokey thing and then look at the audience like "amirite ladies?". Like it just seems very obvious that he was lapping up the attention and being seen like a hero vigilante doing a press tour.
So he made more points then what im about to cover but towards the end of dog's 2nd video he clarified that it wouldn't be an actual War crime because he wasnt a prisoner and still you should be doing full backround checks on anyone your planing on hiring but did soggy intentionally leave out the clip were dogpack mentioned how it wouldn't be a war crime because he wasn't actually held prisoner
The guy is a hypocrite; he even refused to do research because it's for nerds, or he claims he doesn't have time to read all the documents, so he just cherry-picks and takes things out of context.
Just because this came out about Dogpack, doesn't mean that all the disgusting things Mr Beast and his company did are excused. Mr Beast and his company are still disgusting and should be investigated by real authorities. At the end of the day Mr Beast is a greedy rich guy, as they all are, who commits crypto frauds and is not altruistic nor charitable whatsoever.
@@Queef_Stormto say 99% was wrong is being very disingenuous. He only debunked two of the illegal lotteries, still hired the rso, is being sued for beast games, the crypto scams, etc…
The "no doesnt me no" bit si still wrong in my opinion, or tone deaf at least, no matter that a woman wrote it or that a woman does not see anything bad with it. It's obvious they mean it in a "sales tactic" way, and it still sounds very much out of touch.
Oompa made one video very lightly defending Mr Beast on just a few small points when the drama started, got slightly more dislikes than usual, and immediately deleted the video and brought DogPack on and apologised profusely to him and let him say whatever he wanted with zero pushback on any of it. There's no way Oompa would risk flip flopping in front of his audience again.
@@agentwesker5237 Even Coffeezilla said he can't be sure Jimmy did anything wrong because it could have been the people around him. Just say you love the taste of DogPack's meat and don't want to have to let go
Ok you glazing mrbeast now ngl, You repeating the whole hate the exposer credibility cycle,This vid doesent make mrbeast or soggy a saint. Look at how many people exposing mrbeast rn including COFFEEZILLA who is genuinely an unbiased reporter
Dogpack was talking about the other timer. He wasn't even making an accusation but saying "clearly" because the timer is a digital widget on the screen.
You wouldn't be able to see the physical timer for most of the video.
If you look at the very first mack video's first obstacle, you will see when he slides under the gate Indiana Jones style, his legs were clipping through the falling gate! So yes, Jimmy did fake some of his videos.
@@darpmosh6601 Oh no, a content creator using CGI is apparently bad and has nothing to do with entertainment at all. I knew those pyramids were fake in the "$1 vs. $500,000 Experiences" video. Egypt should sue MrBeast for defamation now. Why did Jimmy tell us that those pyramids were REAL?
@@jonathanjohnson4594 But the scummy thing is, you're using CGI to make a guy that seems like he didn't pass, actually pass a challenge. You are deliberately tricking viewers with that maneuver. You are shoehorning a W in the video for dramatic purposes.
Honestly the only person here I feel any sympathy for is Jake Weddle. My man got manipulated into destroying his mental health for money, then years later got manipulated again into putting himself back out there instead of just trying to get on with his life. He got caught up in the hype of getting payback on someone he hates and is now back on the back foot after getting rightfully angry that people were trying to deny his lived experience and making a really dumb mistake.
He made statements giving tips on things Dawson might want to check out that were then broadcast as fact. He felt pressured into not taking the money from MrBeast that he (at least in my opinion) definitely earned. After everything Jimmy put him through, he saw someone that seemed to be honestly trying to bring the shitty things he knew about to light, and he came out from the woodwork to try and help, and after all that, he's going to be stuck on this sinking ship with Dawson and Rosanna.
But hey, at least he got a photo with Jason Derulo out of it, so...
Dude spent 2 weeks in what was essentially a 5-star hotel room, could leave at any point, made over $100k for doing literally no work, and only had to drape a sheet over his eyes at night to block the light out like every other Mr Beast contestant has done since, then tried to destroy his friend's life over it. Guy is a joke and I hope the punchline is a lawsuit.
finally, people will start understanding how slow this person is, as soon as his first video was posted and it was full of holes and no proof, i knew its wouldn't take long for this guy to get put in his place
Soggy cereal da god ❤, I’m glad that you debunked all of the stupid allegations that dogpacks made because he is a complete manipulator for cohering people’s “(confessions)” for his hitpiece narrative🤦🏻
Im glad you called Dogpack out. I watched the first 2 videos and some stuff seemed off like we only got a small portion of the story. Giving us the allegation then quickly moving on to the next allegation with no real deep dive or seeing another side of it. I also thought it was stupid and disingenuous to call him for the CGI he used in some videos like the squid games,because Mr Beast channel shown all of that on their instagram and youtube. It wasnt faking videos,it is common to use special effects to enhance the video
49:28 you know I just realize something if you look closely and behind him, it reads in Japanese and if you do look up the company, then you realize the rockets don’t look like that. How the fuck is no one mentioned this
It’s all back and forth now. Someone exposes for lying then the other person exposes them for taking them out of context or missing information. It’s a cycle
Summary of This video: "Never trust MrBeast ever in million years but also never falling to Misinformation Drama braggin from Doggo cult's"
"Basically take Nobody sides, humanity ignorance is bliss, cuz the world always been full of lies. While we kept ourselves in a room wasting time and do meaningless allegations, commentaries without critically think for ourselves" including those of manipulative youtube Companies off-topic brands who being control by A.i, Products and own devices like Goddamn slave we made to one self too another?!?!!👨🏻🦳👎🏻
with all the commotion outtaway, right there ma friend is not a Theory, that's a fact! the sad truth of 2024 being the year of exposure but also the lost cause of Humanity selves...
"is too late to make a change" only time will tell 🙄 2025 be better (or that'll day never come soon if we don't do smth about it)
Edit: Take actions, ignored drama and stop trigger ragebait even when it's all true (Slop content is not on my support fair use)
He doesn't and you're lying. Learn to accept when you've been wrong about something and grow tf up. You're exhibiting the exact same behavior as DogPack doing this.
Why? Nearly every accusation has either been debunked or is yet to have both sides of the story given? Just say you don't want to admit that you were wrong but also can't deny any of the facts that Soggy laid out and so the comfortable compromise is "weellll, Mr Beast still bad >:( but now DogPack bad too"
Thank you for this, after I watched the original DogPack404 video I remember going to Ludwig’s livestream reacting to it and I watched the interaction between him and Ludwig play out and I just had this weird feeling in my gut with the way he conducted himself there that just made him seem like a really paranoid and disgruntled person like him accusing Lud of “being a plant” when he was asking reasonable questions. Always just felt like something was wrong with his character.
2.ya'll either stop or keep watching Mr.beast content
3.stop making videos about the 2 fuckers (just let them die [not literally])
4. Ya'll need to wait for Mr.beast to finally respond
5. (Personal opinion) i don't really care if X or Y is an asshole, never watched a single Mr.beast video because i always thought that his videos where brainrot content
6. (Another Personal opinion) i don't really care about this whole thing because it doesn't affect me directly (you can call me a bad person for that [i know :D])
7. It's not because a SINGLE video (2 actually) was debunked that Mr.beast is magically a good guy again (i'm saying that for the peeps who believe he is back to being a goodie 2 shoes)
8. I feel like Mr.beast is a bit like jake dorhoty (or whatever his surname is). What i mean by that, is that he got famous too young and too fast
@@turar954 I mean he is the man that understands youtube the best; he makes the trends that other follows and he's made the biggest YouTube empire. That's just why I think it though.
The whole mrbeast drama tells us that even the people that seem to be the most less controversial could turn out to be the most controversial. considering that dogpack worked there for only 3 weeks and became this whole mister who shit, and mrbeast being this monopoly man turning the gears on and fuck up the entire youtube community, as well as the employees like jaketheviking and weddle arent great people themselves. NO ONE IS PERFECT. if its too good to be true, IT IS too good to be true. Grow the fuck up 🔥
Honestly i never bought the accusations Dogpack was making.
That said my opinion of MrBeast still took a huge dip after them because they sorta revealed him to be very corpo. He doesnt feel like a down to Earth guy anymore; he doesbt make Twitter posts anymore and he's totally silent on all of this beyond a lawyer statement. And worse is his collab with thise walking brain viruses KSI and Logan Paul; i wouldve support Lunchly had they not been invovled but now i actively root for its failjre so he stops working with them
Really great informative video. I have seen some criticism about dogpack before and had some of my own, but I didn’t realize how much of it was bullshit
Im glad you made this video, ive made quite a few bs exposing paragraph comments on dogpack and rosana pansino videos. Im not a mrbeast defender, I just really really hate bullshit, especially for personal gain and the destruction of others.
A clean and fairly recent example was their collab video where at one point they take mrbeast showing the same video clip of a well labeled differently.... and assert to their audience "mrbeast is faking building wells". Its the constant "this is true" bs statements, titles, thumbnails, and maybe a "just my opinion!" in the description. It reeks.
Recently the internal investigation about actual concerning employees concluded, using an OUTSIDE firm.... and somehow someway every single comment I've seen makes the joke "we investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong"....
Thats why (IMO) its taking so long for mrbeast to make a comprehensive reply video... if the general public misinterprets the first sentence of that investigation conclusion document... and clearly there's a massive audience eating up mrbeast slander slop content... how on earth will a hours-long response video be taken?
im convinced your all lying, and your all down bad, and you guys can figure it out. Just looking at the video itself, seeing a 3 minute section for criticism for mr beast ......... being teamed up with logan and ksi, thats not even possible.
Both videos by both creators have dishonesty to them, its like CNN vs FOX
This needs to shed light on the Dogpack allegation, or else people will be fed misinformation by the Dogpack cult. Accountability and credibility above all else.
We? Nah bro, not all of us allow ourselves to be so easily fooled. Dawson had little to no evidence for most of his claims. You can even see on screen he compares 60g of Feastables to only 43g of Hersheys. The lies were so obvious and people still ate it up.
doesnt make you any better. Some things here could be wrong, and theres still the allegations that were still proven correct at the end of this video. and, most importantly, collabing with 2 other bad people, and giving birth to the horrible child, LUNCHLY
I genuinely did not expect this. Anyways, while a great deal of allegations have been lifted off your chest, there's still some weight you have to lift off your shoulders to reclaim your usurped throne.
Your still a gross businessman who is too obsessed with money, nothing will change that no matter how much you help other people and posture yourself as a good guy to the internet, you know it deep down even if you have persuaded yourself you're not actually greedy and addicted and selfish
Not to be rude but can you please talk about and be honest for Luther stuff like the not crypto or the 1 illegal stream, u are innocent but own up to other stuff like crypto and others
Wow Mr.Beast here Its sad a stupid ex-employee with anger issues tried to character assasinate and painted you an evil guy but truth always prevails and you won.Please sue that hideous idiot and lock him up in jail.
Soo how about you address the allegations instead of calling them baseless slander ? Like ok I get it a bit of it is definitely baseless drama shit but c'mon dude you were my favorite YouTuber and you turned out to be a soulless corporate husk
You ain't a good fuckin person dude. You might not be as bad as people say, but you have still done some stupid and awful things, being dumb isn't an excuse.
@@Rayx_MHe has responded LEGALLY. If somebody is throwing this much slander at you, the first thing you do is jump legally. If you are running a multi billion dollar company, you don’t want to wait to make a 3 month research apology/debunk video. That could cause your whole company to collapse and burn.
Dont act like you’re free from drama just yet, you still have a lot of things to address. Like knowingly collaborating with a literal scammer. Thats one of the least severe btw
I love you Jimmy but there are still some things you did that Im not crazy about. Why colab with a ghoul like Logan? You gotta know Prime is terrible for kids to be drinking. Also even though you gave the boys permission to sign the shirts it doesnt feel the same anymore knowing that the ones I bought were prob signed by Tyler or someone I dont really care about. Anyway I only hope you keep making the world a better place and keep helping people because thats what I followed you for in the first place. Good luck
So you respond to this vid from a channel with a quarter mil subs but wont respond to 3mill sub coffeezilla?? Sounds like lil brown evelopes are involved here
😂 you paid someone to make a video for yourself, since your stupid internal investigations was bullshit. You’re a coward Mr.Beast. Your Jewish smear campaign won’t work to get your ass away from the fire you peace of shit pedophile sympathizer!
Dude, it's the perfect time to actually respond to everything now that a lot of allegations are false. Address the ones that are confirmed/ suspected to be true, and we're golden.
@KattSmulan Jimmy's team doesn't have any control over Soggys comment section. And Soggy is pretty good about his block list so if you're seeing your comments disappear....that's probably YouTube itself. It deleted one of mine too. It happens a LOT if you talk about sponsors or even just list another country in the comment. YouTube censors folks like crazy and them hiding comments about Jimmy and his team checks out.
Wow, you still aren't meaningfully responding to the allegations, and now you strawman and ad hominem all your detractors. Shame on you, just goes to show how gross of a person you are
You and your company are still bad and shady people. You have yet to make an actual response - the only time you comment is on this video defending you. How egotistical do you have to be?
@@knownsince20 He did? That's why he's the only person who has been able to get a response or interviews from current staff and why he wasn't actually allowed to ask about any of the potentially true allegations. Only debunk the obvious lies. I'm sure Soggy got the same legal statement about the remaining allegations on his board that staff didn't even touch. And they talked around a lot of topics that Soggy didn't push, likely so he wouldn't lose footage or their cooperation.
14:03 the issue is not about the war crime joke, it’s the issue that Jake waddle was mentally and physically hurt and dare I say traumatised (according to how waddle described it at least) in a room with the light constantly on always, no track of time, no regard for his health as he was made to a marathon and physically exhausted for a monetary incentive. That’s gotta be grounds for some charge? But idk how that would work technically or legally. I can definitely see Jake pursue this further. Will it hold? We can’t say.
@@Someperson12532 He allowed the interviews of his current staff to happen and they knew exactly what they were allowed to say when they went in. He doesn't need to watch it when he knows exactly what information Soggy was given. Note that Soggy basically didn't touch any of the standing allegations and wasn't interviewing about those topics covered in his legal statement about his actual illegal or shady activities. This was a WELL controlled video where Jimmy's staff was basically a partner specifically to debunk the obvious lies Dogpack put out. But literally nothing to do with the legit allegations based on perceived evidence by several parties. Soggy did a great job here but even he is aware that this video was heavily controlled by Jimmy's team. Which is why he focuses so much on debunking Dogpack rather than proving Jimmy and his brand are doing what they're accused of. Because ain't no way he would have been allowed to talk to ANYONE on his team without framing it as debunking the lies. But in doing so we can very much see that gaping holes in what Jimmy is allowing to be said publicly about himself and the brand. Which is also why this is the only video his team has ever commented on regarding ANY allegations publicly. They 100% are trying to use Soggy to bolster their brands reputation. Soggy putting ALL of the allegations up on a board so we can see just how much they refused to respond to was basically the death knoll of their public responses. They tried to manipulate Soggy but he didn't actually defend them all that much. They're patting themselves on the back for thinking that this video successfully manipulated people into completely discrediting EVERY allegation brought against him despite the video showing the exact opposite. The things he refuses to discuss are a lot louder than Dogpacks lies and they're panicking about it.
Just because most of the allegations have been debunked in the video, doesn't mean that you're in the clear. You'e gonna need to address what Coffezilla talked about in his latest video regarding your involvement in a crypto scheme. It's not over yet.
@@volkankoyuncu8142 We do know that. He's had weeks and he HAS sent out statements about it. The statements basically just tell people investigating to mind their own business though. He has no intention of responding unless people take him to court.
@@MrBeast Cool. Can you put out a statement about your crypto scams that a lawyer didn't write or are you just stopping by to pretend to be cooperative? Just because that guy is clearly biased doesn't mean he was wrong about everything. In fact, other people were investigating you long before he was. Interesting how you allowed interviews and open responses to Soggy but not to other creators with more experience and knowledge that could actually expose you for illegal activity just by looking at your paperwork a little closer. I know he won't respond to this but let's not play down here. He is not engaging with larger creators with a long history of exposing people for doing the same thing. Coffezilla reached out several times and I'm pretty sure he's ignoring lawyers reaching out for comment as well. Not all of what that guy said was even slander. Notice how many claims Soggy WASN'T able to debunk despite being EXTREMELY generous after being manipulated? And Soggy is perfectly aware that Jimmy is likely manipulating him too. Because both of them still have tons of sh- to hide from the public.
Y'all should not be surprised to see him down here. He is the one who allowed the interviews to happen when literally no one else has been able to get more than that whack ahh lawyer written statement basically telling folks to mind their business.
Him being down here is literally a manipulation tactic in and of itself.
@@volkankoyuncu8142Definitely agree with this statement. Even though Dogpack is a fraud, you still got to own up for the other deceptive tactics you employ at MrBeast. Also, I’m 99% certain this is not MrBeast commenting here but rather one of your cronies.
@@shadowelza1923 Fr he couldn't even make a video debunking any claims. Criticism about his unhealthy, mouldy rip off of lunchables and how he's not creating poverty porn videos
Please stop being stupid and just actually say something worthwhile. Or better yet, make an actual stance other than "It's all lies and I'll ignore it until it stops."
You better get out of here with that, just because one guy said something nice about you does not mean you’re a-okay. Jimmy, you’ve done something wrong, you’ve done many things wrong and your lies have been shown. Fess up like an adult instead of hiding in a cave.
@@MrBeast I am currently typing to put my name under a mrbreast comment, so hopefully when the dramatubers show, they’ll see me because I am desperate for attention
Please shut up. You’ve still done a crap ton of bad stuff and there’s still more stuff than just 3 that were confirmed as true before. So don’t even try and say baseless.
Your content is still trash and the fact you need another content creator to defend you instead of addressing this situation yourself. Tell me everything I need to know.
Pretty suspicious of you to comment so soon after the video came out huh...😒 Either you already knew this video was in the making or... you might have paid Soggy to do it. Even if you came to know about it through your employees who were interviewed in this video, how can we say for sure they are completely unbiased and not just glazing you just cause your are their employer.
Indeed, there are things are can be explained, but please, as soggy said at the end of his video, nothing is clear until YOU say it! like the crypto thing, or the 1st lottery, just be honest and relatable, like the mrBeast I subscribed many years ago, not just behind the manager or someone, I get it, its too much legal process and confidentiality, but people need YOU to talk about it. Take care!
You could have debunked all dogpack allegations yourself by at least make a video long time ago, but you remained silent. Furthermore there are plenty of other allegations that you still didn't address them. You are not clean. Btw how much did you pay this guy?
You are a horrible piece of shit who paid him. Pedo. You are trying to be a mordern Goebbels. You clout addicted brain probably doesn't even know him. This comment was probably made by an intern anyway.
A truthful video but at this point Jimmy is just a mascot to a shitty company. There’s no point of defending him or even trying to ruin his career. Even if his career was ruined, I’m sure the company would just find a new way to still make profit. Everyone involved in this drama are just fighting an uphill battle at this point.
@@volkankoyuncu8142i mean most the very serious accusations like hiring former sex pred are out the way it’s just now the lottery that’s illegal chris tyson and maybe jake waddle plus that lawsuit but now that’s it
Yeah that's nice and all where the video that you should have put out by now talking about all of these allegations other people shouldn't be talking on your behalf
Jimmy! you did forget me lol (me too exposed dogpack404 before) We are on your side, we do not believe those who lie to humiliate you and denigrate you all over the world, we are aware of the games played on you. Remember, your fans who truly love and know you will not believe dogpack404 and they, your critics will not be brainwashed against you :DDD
Mrbeast we still dont like you, you completely alienated your orginal fanbase, lied about making a response to dogpack, faked numerous videos, you sold out, and you are best friends with a pedophile...
@@thaariqbinaziz2821 his lawyers advised him to stay quiet they already debunked everything in an investigation that will get the investigators, the biggest american firm shut down if they lie
can't believe people were just blindly believing everything just for the sake of drama, but now when more people can see the truth and think for themselves once, it's less depressing
Firstly.. a lot of that slander ain't baseless.. When Coffeezilla makes a vid about you man, and his words are I quote "What you're doing is bad, you shouldn't do that" when he tries his best to use nonbiased language usually, it should be your time to sit and reflect. Secondly, yes.. Dogpack has some bones here and neither of you are perfect either... Oompaville is saying it best..all of you are both bad people, and neither of you deserve to act like you're God's Given Savior. We don't even have proof that you haven't paid these guys off. Baseless slander my ass. Look.. I am FULLY willing to hope that a lot of your 'good deeds' were genuinely done with great intentions and weren't fake. But commenting THAT here.. is tone deaf. You're working with Logan Paul goddamnit. You're working with the guy whose entire thing is "Everyone hates him". Read the room. Your fans will defend you, and they're perfectly allowed to.. but don't think that just cause your accuser is a bad person that two wrongs make a right. Dogpack didn't hurt your philantropic work like that guy said in the interview. YOU did.. by giving him legit content to hurt you with. A guy can't shoot you with a shotgun if it ain't loaded, no matter who he is. You gave him the bullets man.
I'm personally praying for you since you are a big influence on my students and my family. We all are, we're praying that you reflect on what you've done. Your channel isn't done, it won't be- you're too powerful we all know that, and kids are dumb. What happens now, how you choose to live your life is up to you entirely, I can only hope that morals are stronger than cash. I don't think its likely for you, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
Sooo, you're breaking your silent when someone defending your butt... But exposing the liars of an ancient employee doesn't solve the rest (and sorry but there is some Dog's accusations that's not solved either) You have some serious allegations against you, many shady things, needing answers and explanations... And... You comment here, so you are watching things that people are saying about you, strange, very strange, why watching if you KNOW you are crystal clear hum? And strange you comment on someone defending you... Like this video needs a validation for you credibility... Or maybe there is something else... I wonder if someone can get be paid to defend a person... Like a lawyer but for the public opinion... Hummm🤔
@ he paid a team to investigate him and they told him to not say anything about during the investigation he posted their results on twitter, as soggy showed
woah seriously now? Where were you when everything was happening? Regardless of slander, i just want to know what made you think it would be good to stay silent?
Dogpack 404, he is up to something more, Scheming and deceiving, it's fraud to the core. Watch out for his tricks, don't fall for his lore, Dogpack 404, always looking to score.
Glad to know that you're in the clear, well mostly. Maybe try not to get into potential crypto scams and do something about the Beast Games allegations and be more transparent.
Yeah that's cool, at least for now. Once you address the coffeezilla, all your accusations is clear. Also stop collabing with Logan, you already better without him.
@@AdrianSlashShinI think it was Mr. Beast who wrote this, since it is still up, and he would have deleted the comment by now if it was some intern. He might delete it to hide the backlash in the replies.
Thanks for all that you do Jimmy. We appreciate the generosity that you show, and it’s very sad to see what you’ve had to deal with these past few months because of all these lies.
Crazy how he solely responds to this video and not the hundreds calling him out for being an awful person. This video wasn't even making him seem like a good guy, either, it was just calling Dogpack out. Jimmy is in desperate need of consequences
This comment just makes this video a whole lot more suspicious, your lawyers are gonna be pissed at you for making this comment lmao “okay we got an unofficial looking video response, now don’t fuck it up’ bro proceeds to fuck it up
@@destinysoblivion3268Defamation lawsuits aren’t easy to prove ESPECIALLY if it’s against multiple people. Since MrBeast is a public figure it’s going to be even harder for him to win. There’s a reason why he hasn’t done it yet
Hey Mr "Jimmy" Beast, just letting you know that Crypto Scam is still a thing and you need to address that ASAP. Just watch Coffeezilla latest video (also at the end of the this video lol) and just address this because that's not a good thing. Thank you
Cuz let’s be fr: Just because everyone stopped talking about it doesn’t necessarily mean most ppl are ready and willing to hear what MrBeast himself has to say about the allegations that are true, at least for right now, and even if he were to debunk everything, it would be like the Dream situation where ppl will try to claim he lied about a lot of things; Simply put: Now might not be the time for him
Edit: I understand tho that he should rn, and I 100% agree (just putting it out there for all the ppl that might claim that I’m trying to defend MrBeast in any way, and I’m not) but realistically speaking, this is a fire against MrBeast that may be too big for him to try to put out at least for right now.
Lmfao the amount of yt content on this drama thats about to drop tmrw will be insane. Anyways dogpack is a liar (i had a feeling about this from the start with how he twisted things and how he put out baseless allegations not willing to do full research) but ypu still have to answer for the crypto things and etc
You may be legit innocent of a lot of the bullshit Dawson threw at you but you still have shit to adress (crypto shit Coffeezilla talked about, the Kris Tyson Shadman Poster thing, etc.) man up and do it yourself soon dawg.
Now’s your time to actually make a proper video on your channel against Rosanna and dogpack and take responsibility for anything wrong you’ve actually done
@@kylecaster1016 You guys keep changing the goalpost man. “Respond to this allegation” then that one gets debunked and then you just move on to the next one and the next one it is an infinite cycle. The cryptocurrency allegations just came out give him some time to process it before he responds to it. (or someone else debunks it)
So does this mean you’re gonna drop out of Lunchly, be more transparent, and stop working with Logan Paul? Three excellent points Soggy made in this video that I hope you consider!
Just because some of the allegations were supposedly debunked does not mean you are free of blame. Respond to Coffeezilla. Respond to the remaining important allegations.
I think the time's come to respond to the shit that people have been asking completely reasonable questions about. A massive, well-researched video clearing the air of unverified and ridiculous allegations has been published, people are realizing that a large portion of the shit levied against you was either false or overblown (Dogpack's been exposed to be ~3/36 on his allegations), and all that remains are things that need answers. Things like the crypto wallets referenced in Coffeezilla's video, Ava Kris Tyson with the Shadman stuff, Delaware, the Beast Games, and Illegal Lottery #1 (to quote the video).
While many people on the internet, myself included, defended you from the BS Dogpack and Rosanna propogated, there's still a lot of stuff that ranges from incredibly irresponsible to potential criminality which demands answers. The next few days would probably the best chance you'll get to respond now that the smoke's starting to clear.
@@shadowelza1923 We don’t know that yet. Just because he commented on a video doesn’t mean he’s not gonna make a response about it. We’ll have to wait and see.
@@saltycritic I think most of it has been solved:
He didn’t know about Ava (he knew she was into some weird stuff but he didn’t know the extent of it, especially about the inst gram) which is the worst of it.
The mold is probably because it just got launched and it will fix itself with better packaging.
He couldn’t just stop the recent video for this drama he got hundreds of workers that he needed to pay.
His collaboration with Logan isn’t directed as a bad thing more of an opinion. (If you think he has redeemed himself over the past couple of years) which Mr. Beast thinks he has.
@@fitherin7017 we know, but spreading untrue information about him which delegates actual information about him is harmful. He is allowed to feel relief that more people are giving him grace.
You havent even responded still💀, you can’t wait for other people like Soggy cereal to make you seem less worse when you still do, all it takes is either a response defending yourself, from YOU. Or admitting all the true allegations and let this dumb ass YT drama end just like that.
No way - you finally responded (kinda) and ofc it is on Soggy's vid exposing 404 😭 wtf
Anyways, let's not get all diddy giddy with ourselves now. You still need to talk about you being aware of Ava, Coffeezilla, your recent videos, not mentioning Lunchly mold, collabing with Logan in the first place, etc
Ah finally someone who didnt say my product(feastables/lunchly) tastes ass or finally someone who endorses your activity to subscribe bait millions of people for a single prize. You are a multi billion dollar brand now you are not one person though I doubt this is even you commenting jimmy but someone from your team.
@@pixelcreepie9724 Even if dogpack is 100% wrong,Mrbeast being exposed by coffeezilla him admitting to partaking in crpytos with logan, his best friend being a pedo, Him being heavily lawyered up and saying nothing to defend himself on his twitter.This vid doesent make soggy or mrbeast a saint, It's the whole oh the exposer is a good person credibility from us thinkin dogpack is a good guy to now soggy is a good guy. matter of fact is none of them are.
@agentwesker5237 yeah but still. Almost every Week someone i liked gets exposed for either diddling kids or just being a bad Person. And then when i think "i can definitely trust this Person, they spoke out against, and exposed, the bad Person" but then something like this happens and i actually have to realize that i can trust nobody
I fall victim to just regurgitating whatever I hear online sometimes so thank you for making this video to widen the scope of knowledge for us brainrotted indivuals!!
43:58 Scorecard is cut off here. Pesticides is yellow. The text cuts off information, that may be used for consideration in comparison to other companies practices.
47:39 True accusation is partially obscured. The accusation isnt related to the current section, just something i noticed. 50:27 Further, it is nearly fully obscured here. Note that it only appears like this for a moment.
52:11 As far as im aware, Dogpack isnt necessarily saying that he wants the contestants with covid to participate.
Note that at 53:58 dislikes are estimates added by extensions.
@@_evaded_ He's just mad that this whole video inadvertently proved him and everyone else who found Jimmy guilty until proven innocent a fool, even if that wasn't the video's intention
@@Queef_Storm yea no im older…i prefer not to speak without my lawyer at this point…
Jokes a side, it happens at all ages and yes if you are younger, then its normal to jump the gun. I was just always a bit sceptical about mr beast and then dogpack did kinda „confirm“ that i was right and so i thought its „real“.
BUT after the 3. video of him, i also started to realize some things are getting weird and especially since he started to show up on some other creators videos, he seemed so self focused.
Genuine question: how old are you? I have suspected for some time that most of the people who believed DogPack were high school age or younger and are new to false allegations
you come off as so narcissistic that anyone who even suggests you were wrong about something you will go on the offensive against and just hurl insults instead of actually addressing their argument
Some people are just biased after 10–15 minutes of watching and come to the conclusion that Soggy is just a glazer/dckrider. It's kind of hypocritical when they have no problem watching 2+ hours of Dogpack videos. There are plenty of those in the comments, if you've noticed.
@@arielperez3613 Which we still haven't heard his side of the story of. Are we going to find him innocent until proven guilty again? It's like people have learned nothing.
I'm guessing this applies to government, rebellion, militants, monarchy, and biblical figures (like Jesus). A true atheist's or nihilist's worldview to live by, right?
Dawson shows no proof and everyone believes him. Soggy shows actual proof over a dozen times and everyone's like "weeelll, he could be lying, best not to believe him"
Dog Pack read the rest of the no doesn't mean no part. It goes on to say keep calling back and goves and example of Dollar Tree it says to call over and over and hopefully you'll get a fan over and hour in and its been nothing but simping for Mr Beast. Explain him knowing for years about AK long before he came out, the crypto scams just alot can't be explained away but its obvious its gonna all get pinned on the ped and "poooor mr beast" will be the story in a year
Well he might say it as a joke but it is considered war crime under Geneva convention, this video is like I don't defend Jimmy while actually wiping Jimmy shitty ass
well i already hated mr beast, i dint need any 10 hour vid drama. Mr beast is a shitty person (my opinion from his content, long before the exposure). if he makes more people hate on this ass then its a win to my book
Only thing i don't agree with: it doesn't devalue the signature if. I mean it does? Imagine getting an autograph from Michael Jackson and you find out he isn't the one that signed it, that value now DROPPED a lot.
And the whole Rosanna stuff just felt like 2 hating Jimmy so reaching as much as they could do discredit Jimmy, even though i am not a fan of Jimmy's main channel stuff, geck highly dislike this fake personality stuff and the over acting, those 2 felt like such an act.
@zuglymonster "Not pointing out all the bad stuff" Lol, he criticized his scummy second lottery, along with his at the time alleged crypto history, I don't know how is he a glazer.
@@lott1e well hes not pointing out any of the bad stuff its all "dog pack sucks" both can be true. I would like a video from an unbiased source. not a fan or someone with a grudge because for example, no where in here does he touch how much they knew about AK years prior
31:06 what I find weird (and cringe) is the fact thah Rossana's channel is about COOKING . But now, shes talking about MrBeast!!?? 😅
Man, influencers would do any sneaky sh1t for views and ad revenue money only add another zero to their already full bank account. Back in my day, people BUSTED THEIR A$$ES FOR MONEY. Nowadays, its all just INTERNET CLOUT.
42:40 Agree 110% with this. People need to realise this. The fact that you debunk all Dogpack said in his videos, doesnt necesarelly means that you lick MrBeast's b4lls. But, sadly, many people in here would do exactly that 🤦🤦 Still... c'mon man. You didnt say NOT ONE SINGLE thing about MrBeast?? You know how that looks, right?
43:13 Right. Imo, it seems veeeeery hard acchieving a billionaire status without doing something illegal and/or unethical in the way..
Everyone has faults and mistakes. There is no hero or villain. It can all change and can twist and bend and curve in unpredictable turns, as the future beacomes more and more uncertain yet stabilized. You can’t predict every atom in motion, either by heat or by push. Especially not when a majority, including you and me, let others slightly push opinions only to be mostly forgotten by a stolid mind.
Don't be too upset, little buddy. I know it can be hard to find out you were fooled and how gullible you really are but it's best to learn from it instead of crying.
Man, I wanted to watch the whole video and see which part is good and which part is piss poor. And less then half way through I give up. You did better than most other by doing research. But your arguments are so poor and contrived that you are essentially on the same level as dogpack. It will just rot my brain to watch the rest. MrBeast, Dogpack and now this guy, all incompetent kids with zero skill in life who got lucky on this platform.
You mean by half way you had been shown so much proof that you were wrong and had been fooled that your ego couldn't take it anymore and the story you tell yourself to cope with that is "I'm not the problem, other people are!" Good luck with third grade next year. Learning your times tables can be tough.
A whole 3 months of beliefs just crumbled in a mater of 1,5 hours 🙈. I’m truly embarrassed to have believed the dog guy so blindly. Note for next time: fact check EVERYTHING😵💫.
Dogpack did use them to ruin Jimmy, and their reputation and livelihood could be affected if misinformation spreads out of control. Keep in mind, he disregarded the effect this would have on the victim's, contestant's, or employee's life, and the potential witch hunt that might occur (such as doxxing or death threats).
So, Soggy did a good job of shedding light on all of Dogpack's lies.
Somebody totally didn't get paid to fly overseas and talk to employees about these specific profit-inhibiting allegations at all once, out of the kindness of their heart.
I am so glad you validated my first comment on Fraudpack404's first video. I knew he was a fraudster and phony. I hope bigger eyes see this video and destroy the slop community and unfounded hate. While Mr. Beast isn't super innocent these creators have been just slandering him based on a squirrely weasel's lies.
@@lott1e Yea like im pretty sure that jimmy would want it to be like that maybe to not make it obvious maybe I'm going crazy but a lot of the video is sussy wussy
Dogpack did use them to ruin Jimmy, and their reputation and livelihood could be affected if misinformation spreads out of control. Keep in mind, he disregarded the effect this would have on the victim's, contestant's, or employee's life, and the potential witch hunt that might occur (such as doxxing or death threats).
So, Soggy did a good job of shedding light on all of Dogpack's lies.
Me either, because soggy also isn’t a whistleblower or journalistic genius, but mrbeast isn’t in the clear either. It’s also a little suspicious that soggy got former mrbeast employees to talk down about Dawson but mrbeast is literally their boss and they’d get financially penalized if they talked down about mrbeast so I wouldn’t trust those interviews either. It’s not just a double edged sword this is a triple edged sword. I’m just not going to associate with anyone involved in this drama
Ok, the part about work chat is also weak AF. You said dogpack was dodgy for reverse search CP but also said he was incompetent for not being able to find the source. So what is it? Should he searched better or not at all? Felt like you already decided to attack dogpack so it was damned if you do damned if you don't situation for dogpack there. No matter what he did, you would have had something to attack. Also, saying it wasn't work chat but meme chat was bs. It was the COMPANY's meme chat. That's a part of work chat. We have different channels on our work chat, including a channel for non work and social stuff. That would not be a work chat in your opinion, and it would be ok to share nasty stuff? And how tf is somebody calling it edgy meme considered concrete proof that it was just edgy memes?? The dude who said it didn't want to say things too outrageous in case he got sued or attacked. You are no more rigorous than dogpack at this point. And the other people leaving the group chat is not proof of anything either. One could argue that they left because they know ava is a pdf and didn't feel comfortable staying the chat but at the same time wouldn't call her (at the time him) out. Jesus. It's painful to watch an incompetent guy criticising an incompetent guy
I think his intent was probably just to have not included the image itself at all and just say what Ava had sent in words. I get how it seems a bit confusing but yk
1:02:41 “five head” is usually used to refer to someone who has a huge forehead, at least that’s the only way I’ve seen it used personally, I’ve never seen it used in a way of calling someone smart, tho maybe that’s common and I’m just unaware of it?
Make sure you also talk about the other shit Mr Beast is doing; like the Crypto scams... if DogPack404 is really a liar or whatever, you dont want to make it look like "Mr Beast is the good guy here",
Mr Beast with all the allegations coming out is probably indeed just like Logan Paul, just so happens another Scum "dogpack404" was the one exposing him.
been calling this a blackmail attempt for a while now nice to see it finally get some thorough criticism some of it is true but a lot of it is definitely fake or ridiculously overexaggerated
Your framing it as if jake could not have been a victim and dogpack manipulates this story and no crime was comited because he could choose to leave even tho he says it himself he felt presurde to accept and was put in a position he believed he could not say no (and your framing it in a way that degrades what he went throu because compared to war this is insignificant?), he clearly was tromatized by this "chalenge" even years after. Your warcrime debunk is no debunk. And its funny how later in the video you say dogpack tried to "peer pressure" you with a text that implies you overreacted.
Sorry for the speling mistakes im no native english speaker.
On the Jake thing: he said he can see why jake would feel that way due to mental well-being. Jake is a victim but not necessarily in the way it’s portrayed. He’s a victim of the company taking advantage of his mental health but he did have the option to leave. I’m not saying it would’ve been easy to leave, just that he could.
He also doesn’t say no crimes were committed. He looked over some of the allegations. The video, despite the title, isn’t focused on jimmy himself. It’s focused on Dogpack404 so of course it’s going to include more of dockpacks actions than jimmy’s
Can everyone just shut up about Mr. Beast? Until I hear Mr. Beast likes to diddle kids I really dont have a single fuck to give. As far as im concearned, Mr. Beast is just another souless, money-driven opportunist, like 90% of everyone in America. Everyone is out to get him, and everyone else is controlled opposition.
Get mad and stay mad. You slurped up Dawson's load without proof, now you're shown actual proof and you don't want any of it. Genuine question: aren't you embarrassed to be this kind of person?
Nah bro, you definitely watched it and are butthurt like everyone else in this comments section. Sucks to find out that you allowed yourself to be so easily fooled, I'm sure, but maybe learn from it instead of getting a sore balloon knot about it
already had a bad feeling about dogpack when he pointed out that obviously cgi explosions were cgi and how that was a bad thing for some reason and how that the subscribe for a cookie thing was actually really manipulative and not just some random joke thats been around the mr beast channel ever since the worst intros days
i dont rlly think that rosanna pansino and jake weddle are "maipulated" by dogpack, they both have experience with mrbeast himself and of course if dogpack threatened them to say what they did that sucks ass, but this is my opinion. im only like 10 minutes into the video
Ok the section of war crime joke was weak. It doesn't matter if the Justin guy was joking or not. What matters is what really happened. If Jake was forced to stay up and couldn't sleep. That was torture. Somebody joking about it being torture doesn't stop it from being torture. Jake knew it was a joke doesn't stop it from being torture either. This guy is doing exactly the same as dogpack right now. This guy too is relying on a very flimsy argument. We need solid proof of what happened, and so far, nobody has it. Not Jake, not dogpack. And also, not this guy. And whether Jake was technically allowed to leave or not is just one factor. Not letting him leave would be a very serious crime. Putting a guy in desperate needs for money in a situation where he has to choose his well-being or money is unethical and predatory. It might not be a crime but it's disgusting nevertheless
The guy Jake is clearly mentally unwell. The Beast should have done a mental health check on him before allowing him to participate. He's one of the most emotionally unstable people I've ever seen. Just see his Instagram posts reacting to criticism. No wonder he's (allegedly) the only one who's had that experience from similar challenges done at Mr Beast, I tend to believe that. Otherwise, for stable people, I wouldn't really care about this that much. You can just leave. It's meant to be a tough challenge for good money.
You really shouldn't joke ahout something like that when you're making serious accusations to someone. Another issue is that the guy can leave at any point, and him comparing himself to grape victims do not help his case either.
Another thing is that we don't know about the financial situation off him, that includes Mr Beast. The guy should've accepted the terms going into the challenge. You also left out the fact they also would give him the money he accumulated from the amount of time he spent. He wasn't gonna just leave empty handed. There's a video by Stucky that covers him, I suggest to watch that
Like many of the commenters said, we have no evidence if he was allowed to leave or not, which is likely the first.
We aren't sure if Jake was in a bad financial situation and desperate need for the money, which if true, would make the whole "challenge" more predetory since its targetting a desperate man. And we also dont know if Jake only continued because he wanted to be a victim or any other reason other then money, no matter his financial situation.
In my opinion, that section of the video is the most weakest as a part of it felt victim-blamey for me. But besides that, we always have to say that its alleged because we genuinely have no clue and maybe everyone could be lying to us.
Best to stay neutral for that part of the conversation.
Like you said, we don't have solid proof of what happened. We don't know whether Jake was openly communicating how bad he was feeling or whether he was trying not to show it. We don't know Jake's financial situation outside of the challenge and how much he actually needed that money. You can either say that there was a lot of pressure from Jake to perform well and stay in the box without complaining to get money or that it was an extremely voluntary participation in which he was fully aware and ready to leave at any time but that he just wanted to go through more of the challenge to get more money for himself without voicing his concerns too openly. We just don't know. So don't make harsh judgements on people based on details you don't know.
This is a fairly valid criticism of this video that I actually do agree with to an extent, I do think his main point in harping in on the warcrime joke was that that joke was being spread around as an actual allegation of MrBeast commiting a fucking warcrime which was dumb. I have some criticisms of Jake Weddle but I do legitmately believe that something bad happened to him during the production of that video I just don't think MrBeast would have offered him money as like a form of apology if that wasn't the case and I do believe Soggy should have went more in depth as to what Jake alleged when it comes down to what happened to him during the production of that video.
yeah hes a peice of shit buts hes uncancible he makes companys billions so they arnt gunna do anything he could get caught grooming and still wont get cancelled
@cats9994 I dont care what the opinion is, youtubers need to shut up about it and let things air out and THEN when there's reason to believe we've seen everything we can make videos about the aftermath.
Well, no matter who’s the bad person here, we can all admit this is some preem entertainment, with possiblity of prison time. All y’all grab that popcorn.
I don't really like MrBeast, but I found it weird when Dogpack404 talked about MrBeast's resemblances to the literal ANTICHRIST. It felt like a pretty pointless segment, only there to villainize him even more in the eyes of the more religious audience, but I assumed it wasn't done intentionally. I still can't know absolutely what was going on through his head when making that segment, but now it feels much more scummy rather than unintentional.
@@jonathanjohnson4594 Considering all the other pedo shit we know she did and the other stuff she sent to the group chat... Yes she probably was gooning to it. Not only that but yeah she thought it was child porn and posted it uncensored to share child porn with the group chat. I don't know how people expected dogpack to censor the image but no matter what method he used there would have still been a point in time where uncensored images he suspected to be CP would have been on his computer before he could censor them.
If he wanted to expose this to the public in any way it would require that act to begin with. If he didn't take that act then it would just be his word that these things existed which would be a lot less credible
@@Lordgrayson They kinda are Ava was reporting on it too; if you read her message you can see this. (she did it a lot stupider; by not censoring it) but she was reporting (to the group chat weirdly) she was not gooning to it
@@Lordgrayson The problem is that no one is allowed to harbor or download CP, regardless of intent. But they did it and spread it on YouTube (which got age-restricted, as it deserved). This is why journalists aren't allowed to download any CP-related content from platforms like Pornhub.
When it comes to CP/CSAM, report it to the authorities. It's that simple to understand.
@@realdddaboss Except Ava Chris Tyson was using the image for a very different purpose, by that logic using censored CP in court as evidence would make the prosecutor a pedophile
@@Lordgrayson (og comment get removed so I have to change my terms)dogpack and Rosanna originally put what they thought was 'Cod Points' and barely censored it and put it on the thumbnail and and made three versions of the thumbnail with the image, and the barely censored image was also used in the video. With their logic they are also 'EDP Cupcake Eaters'
@@Lordgrayson dogpack and Rosanna put what they thought was CP barely censored on the thumbnail and also did it in the video. With their logic they are also pedophiles
I think most of dogpacks points in his videos were misinterpreted and people assumed mr beast is this monster, but most of it was out of his control, except for the shady crypto stuff, gc leaks and pdf file allegations against multiple members of the mr beast company, aswell a lot of the other stuff. this is a controversial topic, and hard for people to watch their once or still favorite creator to lose views. I also believe sticking a camera in someones face for monetary gain while giving them money is a horrible thing to do and shouldnt count as a charity
It is actually unfortunate that Dogpack is not a 100% clean and truthful personality that is needed to expose dirt on Mrbeast. Also whatever happens, don't care, it is content for you guys. MrBeast is a scumbag, his crypto scams are in the limelight now, he is a horrible and I mean horrible business owner. Whether Dogpack is trustworthy or not, MrBeast is a horrible human being. His squeaky clean personality is gone, which is the most we could ask for.
@@Queef_Storm Oh, get off your high horse. Jimmy is still an extreme sociopathic scumbag. Soggy is quite literally sucking Mr Beast. I can refute or straight up dismiss a lot of points in soggy's video. Most of his points will be debunked 100% in a few days, but they are so clearly biased and objectively shallow.
It is a good video, as it is good to hear somebody defending the other side but even if DogPack is a liar and an overall shitty person, MrBeast is much, much worse.
So you found out that Jimmy was actually innocent of 99% of the allegations despite having found him guilty before waiting to hear both sides of the story, and now you're going to do it to him again? You have learned nothing.
You literally didn’t debunk anything in this video. You criticize how he presented some things but everything he said was basically true or slightly misinterpreted. I love soggy cereal but this one just isn’t it chief. this is extremely bad faith on your end
@@snoopyisadog838 even if what I said, wasn’t true it is still crazy to go through this much trouble for somebody. That won’t even remember you by the end of the week. And there’s a small chance that his fan will come in and harass me personally if you look at his channel for more than 30 seconds, you can tell he has a pretty dedicated fanbase
@@Kosmaco don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t say that, but I do support free speech. So, just agree to disagree and move on; but you shouldn’t immediately accuse people. There were more comments in the replies disagreeing with you, not just him.
@ he’s upset because I called him out for defending a false accuser (DogPack404) so he falsely accuses me. Do you understand how insane DogPack’s defenders are? They will false accuse anybody.
@@ChrisMiIesChong also, how would I show proof on the YouTube comment section the best I can do is “what you said unlike you I am not going to make a whole video showing the screenshot of the comment
@ChrisMiIesChong you're taking this shit way too seriously in my opinion, it's not like Kosmaco made a video smearing you, it's just a random YouTube comment. Nobody else is going to see it other than the people reading this thread (who will also see your responses) therefore a community post is spreading it further than necessary
@@ChrisMiIesChong” false accusers” you’re acting like I said you like kids you made a comment defending a bad person and then when I called you out on that you deleted it trying to gaslight me into thinking that it never happened
@@Kosmaco LMAO. I don’t delete comments. The snowflake bots at YouTube are trying to censor me, probably cause I am a conservative. However I will make a community post calling you out for your FALSE allegations against me. You are quite pathetic.
@@recreatio not only did he do both stuff, but soggy is a legit pos claiming people to be pedophiles so even if he did debunk stuff which is a totally separate issue he obviously doesn’t know when he’s right and when he’s wrong, he’s just saying stuff to say stuff these were criticisms, not evidence
Am I the only one who didn't like Jake Weddle to begin with? I watched his stuff back when his interview was released, and he's really bad at comedy. He lacks charisma.
@ this has nothing to do with bias, dogpack or mrbeast. I immediately didn't like him when I watched his content, even though I used to be on Dogpack's side. This has nothing to do with taking a side, it's just an observation. I think he's not funny and lacks charisma. I just used this video as an opportunity to bring it up, because I already forgot about him.
Can we all stop attacking Jake? Jake weddle was literally put in a lose lose situation by mrbeast. No matter if he’s ‘bad’ I feel like you’re only saying this because of the new bias everyone’s gained, instead of being biased towards dogpack, we’re being biased towards soggy. Not saying dogpack is a saint nor mrbeast or soggy tbh. Just want to say there’s better ways to voice your opinion than adding onto the hate against jake
So.. is anybody going to talk about how disingenuous the warcrimes portion is? You could not have missed the point of Jake Weddle coming out harder than you did, it doesn't matter if the person who said word warcrime meant it as a joke or not, its just blatantly the fucking truth. Just because I was assaulted and I make a joke about that assault doesnt make the assault suddenly not real.
It was a disgusting abuse of power and someone making a joke about it doesn't make the actions suddenly morally okay. It was fucked up to put someone through and it was fucked up the way it was handled.
@@JulieWooly-pn6tx Crazy how holding job stability over someone in order to get them to abuse themselves for profit goes over your head and how abuse is so easily waved away because its not as bad as the horrors others have endured.
It’s factually not a warcrime nor torture, read the definitions of those words. comparing consensually taking part in a challenge where you get 10k/day, can leave whenever u want with people who got r*ped and POWs is insane while the genocide in gaza is happening. And then after all that taking another 50k from mrbeast is CRAZY
mr beast HAS DONE a ton of crappy stuff insider trading fake give aways to friends etc etc and pushing mold to kids. takeing the word of some moron that still works for this pos NOPE. this video IS A SNOWJOB how much did he pay you>?
Tons of stuff dogpack said was BS and i new it i tried to explain to people in the comments on his video months ago but they were blind to all of it so glad someone i trust came out and said something👍😎
There are a lot people who just hate mr beast for no Reason, even after the evidence is shown they still glaze on dogpack so they can hate on mrbeast, only reasonable people didn’t jump on the hate train ,these people here attacking Mr beast are genuine haters who will never change their mind no matter how much evidence we show them, it’s best not to reply them
Too bad you’re being paid by jimmy to make this bs video. Maybe show the actual footage and not doctored footage but you won’t do that because it doesn’t fit with Jimmys narrative
@@cats9994 so him being able to talk in person with someone who hasn’t spoken to anyone at any point of this unraveling but he somehow gets there. Yea he’s being paid by jimmy that’s clear as day
For the longest time I have hated dogpack404 and when mrbeast was exposed I didn't believe it and after a while I had to just leave the drama I never thought Jimmy was a saint or something but I didn't think he was evil and I,m glad I was as right
Tbh you’re kind of doing the same thing that you say dogpack is doing. Every time you mentioned MrBeast you said “allegedly” and when you mention dogpack you say words like “confirmed”
@@thetacticalguy62 that's a slippery slope. better evidence/explanations matter. i don't think you can evaluate the strength of a point if you don't think that good support for your claims is better than having bad support for your claims. if we examine most of the points in the video, they're backed with such concrete evidence so that it's correct to describe them as confirmed. at the very least it's confirmed that dogpack had spread false accusations (by his own admission), disinformed millions of people through deceptive editing, omitted information, assumptions, and bad-faith interpretations, and uses terrible logic to explain his points
GUYS, GUYS! You telling me, that the guy who was proudly working in a company filled to the brim of pieces of shit, RAN by a piece of shit... it's a piece of shit? :0000 OH MY GOD! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT! THIS IS A REVELATION THAT COMPLETELY CHANGES MY POINT OF VIEW ABOUT THIS! NOW I WILL BLINDLY DEFEND MRBEAST BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON DEFENDING A BILLIONARE IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN MY OWN LIFE!
Guys, whoever immediately changed sides because of this video, i can say this: Both sides can be pieces of shit. Both sides can be awful scummy manipulators. Just let that sink in...and continue with your lifes. Go watch good content, like, i don't know... that good as hell Quake Video Essay from RetroAhoy?
Bravo. Amazing dedication to journalism. My only complaint is that it's been so long that many people will have already accepted DogPack's statements as fact and are no longer paying attention
Why should Mr beast respond, Mr beast responding to this will only make this visible to even more people who know nothing, he made the smartest decision
I am not going to lie, but I did believe some things that Dogpack said because I do have some bias against Mr. Beast because I don't like Mr. Beast, and I don't like his videos.
But like I never trusted Dogpack because even though I don't like Mr. Beast, but I do wait for both sides for answers but like I won't lie and say that I didn't believe some of his lies
Okay I still fucking hate Jimmy because of obvious reasons, but like in retrospect it should have been obvious that DogPack404 wasn't the best person the moment he used "sociopath" as an insult. Just blatantly being ableist lmfao.
@@quirked.Using sociopath as an insult is derogatory towards people with ASPD, or Antisocial Personality Disorder, because sociopath has been used as a synonym for ASPD. It implies that all people with ASPD are bad and evil monsters.
Saw through this kid’s bs since the first video. It was super obvious he was taking advantage of the Kris situation to drag his former employer. It became even more obvious when you realize he barely worked there for months and was asking for a free stuff for “work”. It’d be like if I worked at Walmart as a cashier, got fired, and suddenly Im an expert on corporate. Not saying he lied about EVERYTHING, but the intention was to hurt and drag the company for stupid reasons which I don’t like.
TBF Non-anonymous employees may be less credible because they're actually on payroll, so there'll be obvious bias. Alot of the stuff against Mr Beast literally has irrefutable evidence supporting it, including the fake philanthropy ect. Bringing on payroll employees that are bound to speak positively about the company and there anecdotes doesn't help the case all that much.
Wait... so because u are butthurt by dogpack u are admitting to falsely reporting two people for distributing cp to the fbi? What the fuck is wrong with you?
No matter what, Mrbeast is a awful person and he has been involved in money laundering scams, such as the crypto. And he has no soul, he hurt people on set and failed to give them medical attention.
The main problem right now is, if i can't trust dogpack, why should i trust you? Why should i trust mrbeast employees? Of course mrbeast emmployees should be trusted, they wouldn't say hide bad stuff from their company right?
And to be clear, no one would even be talking about mrbeast if it wasn't because of Dogpack, and I feel that is the most important thing he made. He "made god bleed" sorta. He made a good video on a lot of allegations that inspired people to go after stuff, and I have to be honest a lot of arguments in this video didn't convince me, but even if there are a few bad takes the overall goal was achieved, mrbeast reputation dropped a lot. I have an impression that his views dropped but that might be just an impression.
But the thing that I think people are wrongly focusing is if the stuff he did is legal or not, and this should not matter much. Laws are arbitrary things that change from country too country. If he set the base of his company on a place that allows like slavery or something, he technically didn't made anything illegal, but that doesn't make it right. Also laws have so many loopholes and stuff that you shouldn't judge a person by the legality of their actions, but the morality, remember that there are a lot immoral stuff that are legal.
The last point is that Jimmy alwayss passed a message that he was diferent from the other millionares, he should be held accountable for not honoring that.
i fear that because of this video, if there was any chance of mrbeast ever adressing they are now gone
@@Asi99. I don't know if you are rage baiting or not at this point, and I don't care about legality, being legal or illegal is not the most important part, the important part is being moral or not. And I can tell you with 100% confidence that his content is not good for kids. Kids are the most Manipulatable people in the world, so much so that, here where I live, TV toy commercial are not allowed. Not only that but he creates a big desire to kids to get money and have the brand products etc. Again I think you are just Rage Baiting me, and you won congrats
@@eragus6648 hmmm, well I don't believe him content is harmful for children at all, not do I see any reason for it. Lunchly doesn't seem healthy, but a wonder how much worse it is than say, a happy meal. The evidence was indeed able to convince most people, that doesn't mean it was good evidence tho. As a lawyer I didn't see much wrong except for the potential lotteries, even that was mostly vindicated cause considering the jurisdiction (see the legal eagle vid), even if he did do illegal lottery, it's so common for youtubers to do it, even legally just a fine would suffice. In fact the vid convinced people so well that I wondered if I missed something, man was the devil now somehow. I personally think he's done more net good and done it more ethically than almost any company I've encountered in the real world.
@@Asi99. I hate people that abuses of their audience to make a quick buck. I always thought his content was so machined to be as profitable as possible that it loses purpose, and having a primarily children audience, is damaging. You have to have responsibility to make content for children, which he does not.
Also, don't pretend to "already know" dogpack video was dubious. His evidence was pretty good at the time and conviced most of people.
Also, if it was so obviously false sinse the beginning why didn't MrBeast team come up with the evidence from this video from the beginning? Why did it come from another person to be willing to invtigate. That last part is unrelated but it's a good point too
@@eragus6648why do ya hate him so much From my perspective dogpacks vid was always dubious, just turned out to be filled with even more lies than I initially thought.
@@eragus6648 Well said. I was with Dogpack for the first chunk of this Drama but I also watched Stucky and saw both sides of the spectrum and their flaws. Towards the end I decided to stay neutral. And now Dogpack has been exposed
My problem with this video, aside from what you mentioned, is that whilst Soggy does interview MrBeast employees, which is supposed to strengthen his argument, it also begs the question; are they saying some of this stuff to defend the company, to defend their job, the thing that brings them income? Who knows
@@SayShelo i am really starting to agree with that unfortunatelly, the worst thing is that when everyone stops making/consuming this, that means mrbeast will come ot impune.
@@ErrorpixelsConclusion, i don't know how much is manipulated information, most likely both dogpack and Soggy manipulated information to make a better video. The only way for sure to know the truth is if the mrbeast team be tranparent and address everything case by case, which is most likely to never happen. My side will always be anti-mrbeast, I am very open about that, not necessarally pro-dogpack, but he is one of the few with information AND willing to share.
@@Errorpixels you are doing the exact same thing yyou are manipulating the facts, i did not say i don't accept that dog pack is wrong. Because, hear me out, i don't know if he is wrong, and neither do you. If i can't trust dogpack i can't trust Soggy for the exact same reasons. Soggy did made some manipulative statemants in this video like:
The war crimes allegation was claryfied to be an exaggeration or a "joke" right away, they used it as an example to show that it is really bad not that mrbeast did a warcrime. Mrbeast commiting a warcrime was not one of the allegations, so you can't discredit an accusation that was never done. What did happen was Jake Waddle suffering on the set, that was a fact because mrbeast apologised to him.
there are other manipulations on the video aswell, but that was the example
@@eragus6648also the fact you hate Mr beast and can't really accept that dog pack is wrong and it feels more that it's just hatred towards Mr beast then actual facts.
@@eragus6648Mr beast is a A-hole, but your ignoring dog packs manipulate and lying tactics and although dog pack did help expose Mr beast he started lying which also makes him a A-hole.
@@QuickIguana DogPack also did have receipts. Until someone investigate Soggy, which by the ways, a person i have never heard before, and show a dm that shows Soggy receiving money from MrBeast. This is the state the world is. I am more inclined to trsut dogpack, because for him it is just a lose lose situation.
I feel like this video is slightly deceitful. I'm not defending DogPack404, he is way more deceitful, but you did dismiss some claims which shouldn't be dismissed so easily. Like saying allowing someone else to do your signature doesn't devalue the signature, it obviously does. You haven't proven in anyway that Delaware wasn't a known RSO, just shown Jimmy was young when he hired him which we already knew, it doesn't address the fact he was wearing a mask in the videos, which kind of suggests that Jimmy knew. Also I think it is insincere of hoodie to suggest that allegartions are hurting Jimmy's philanthropic efforts, just because someone does charity doesn't make them immune to criticism, especially when the money spent on philanthropy is massively exaggerated compared to the business's actual profit.
@@naganut9718 Yeah, but I feel the points he did concede were strategic(quite minor/he had an excuse for Jimmy)(I'm solely talking about the allegations Dogpack404 made). I feel he shouldn't have automatically dismissed some claims that shouldn't be ignored, just because they came from Dogpack. TBF I take back what I said about him comparing Coffeezilla to Stucky
@@naganut9718 I think the video's point was to show Dogpack's manipulative tactics, which is good; however, in doing so, he tried to dismiss every claim Dogpack made(obviously, some had too much evidence), which I don't think he should have done(something Dogpack would do), he should have just focused on the facts.
For hoodie, I just don't think you should use charity as a defence against all the criticism, as some of what Mr Beast has done is criticisable. Also as a side not at the end of the video comparing Stucky to Coffeezilla is ridiculous.
@poopypants9983 This used to be a respectful conversation before me and the original commenter. If you have nothing to add to the conversation, don't join it
@@Maneboo1 Everyone defends mr beast saying he is a Philanthropy he won't lie then this shit happens. People always have a motive depending on if their motives are good or not. I trust him about Dog Pack was lying about his allegation but saying he never lie it just another Mr beast situation again. The moment Mr beast collab with 2 crypto scammers I know something shady is about to happen.
@@Maneboo1 Would you trust a corp to change your diaper too? If I had to bet on whether most people in any management position are horrible, I would. If you were caught driving with no license, and explain to the officer you just started driving, the officer would still write you a ticket. And then have your car towed and impounded. Jimmy was old enough to understand his situation
He didn't disprove the RSO part because that was never his point. The point was never about him knowingly hired a sex offender. The part where you said of him wearing a mask is still pretty much only heavily implied. For all we know the guy was the one who asked to have a mask on. There's no solid evidence to it on both sides
As for the hoodie part, the issue was just the fact a lot of the philantrophy was proven "fake" with the worst arguments/evidebce, completely hindering it by calling it "fake". That undeniably hurts philantrophy, and is a major issue with the allegations
@gogopendo1688 he did explain the delaware situation even agreeing that Mr. Beast was wrong not to do a background check. However, the circumstances in which the delaware guy was hired were an easy assumption to make, you wouldn't expect a multi-billion dollar corporation to hire a guy who has any form of bad/criminal background and promote them to manager and I would've personally make the same assumption in that situation. But to each their opinion.
@Maneboo1 For the most part, I would have nothing bad to say about this video if the Delaware allegation wasn't dismissed, I just think his logic is flawed. Dogpack404 deserved a video like this made about him, but I feel in trying to take him down he dismissed some allegations, which shouldn't have been dismissed.
@gogopendo1688 This is soggy cereal. Unlike other channels, he, at least to my knowledge, has never intetualy lied. and after watching the video, he hasn't been deceitful. He even criticises Mr. Beast for his wrongdoings at the end of the video. Dogpack404 was intentualy distributing altered or fabricated information about Mr. Beast for personal gain/revenge, and I will accept no hate on soggy cereal for exposing him
im glad that content creators like you exsist, at least someone that dosen't do what others do just to milk whats trending right now for views and abusing the power of content creation for attention and money. But instead providing actual real infromation.
Only a truly brainrotten person would accuse "bro is glazing MrBeast". iPad kids and school-flunking 12 yr olds nowhere near close to the idiocracy of yall Soggy-bashers.
Preformative politics and feel-good aesthetics doesn't make you a rightgeous human soul. True investigations from a true human like Soggy is how we acomplish what is truly right.
From watching videos of Nicholas diorio Turkey Tom and soggy cereal I've realized that dog packed 404 is an absolute idiot I remember I was on YouTube when the video was first came out I immediately
was on dog pack side and then I started saying oh no Mr Beast is
fuck
all that when he's still an asshole then I would watch Nicholas diorio then Turkey Tom and then I started realizing that
Hella good video, Soggy! I'm amazed at how you were able to drop one bombshell after the other setting the record straight on the awful reporting of what all Mr. Beast did wrong with verifiable proof, all in just an hour and a half. I had my eyes glued to the screen for the whole runtime of the video! And the audio of Dogpack's exit interview absolutely blew me away! Fantastic work, dude!
@@Johnny_2124 well didn't drama news network provide "legitimate screenshots" of mr beast's video not actually getting millions of dislikes. You would think from the rise of defending mr beast videos , a few are paid from mr beast , so when he actually addresses the situation it wouldn't be as serious
@@saltgaming2349 commented this before watching the video , didn't expect it to even get attention lol , yes soggy did have valid points but I still believe that dogpack has credibility, however your free to disagree
I lowkey always felt like Rosanna was milking the whole mr beast thing, like her YouTube career was practically dead since like 2018 and then she has some “crazy” shocking news about her not winning or smthing. And then she goes to exposing mr beast for like cp and all this crazy shit it was just wild. Always had a weird feeling about it
Probably the most unbiased coverage I’ve seen so far, thank you for this. Anyone forming their opinion on this situation needs to remember that if one side is bad, that doesn’t mean the other side is good.
@@Lanetgm their brains, rotted due to how much allegations were being thrown at MrBeast and how much videos Pegasus made and they just accept all of the ones that dog pack made, without even researching I’m not saying MrBeast is an angel, I’m just saying that most of the allegations dogpack threw on him were not well researched or false
If you watched even 3% of the video, you would know that soggy said that he is not defending MrBeast, he’s just disproving dogpack404‘s false claims and if you watched a little more of the video you would know that soggy dislikes, MrBeast for, 1 hiring somebody without doing a background check(Delaware) even though he was 19 he should’ve done a background check and two years later when he grew a little more competent he did a background check and then fired him 2 lunchly (I don’t think I have to explain this)
Massive props to you, Soggy, I hope this video blows up, people need to know about this. Now, I don’t want to be that guy, but I always knew there was something wrong about Dogpack, so I always took what he said with a grain of salt. I hope people learn from this that you shouldn’t fully take someone’s side in an argument just because you hate the person on the opposing side or without knowing all of the context.
when dog pack was a member of the company April first was easter I don't know if they got that day off at the company but if he did that means he worked less then 20 days
@ 1. He was poor and needed the money. Saying he could quit whenever he wanted is a very close-minded way of putting it when this was his only option he had to in order to pay off his medical debt.
2. Jake Weddle was not paid his torture money until he made a fuss about it online. Even then, he was scared to accept the full amount because it would look like he was being bought out. He only got enough to pay off some debt and expenses.
3. Obviously Jake Weddle didn’t know what he was talking about when he said “War Crimes”. He only repeated that phrase AFTER A MRBEAST EMPLOYEE SAID THAT TO HIM.
@ “falsely accusing someone of committing war crimes against a Geneva Convention in a consented to solitary confinement challenge where you'd earn $10,000 a day and CAN QUIT WHENEVER YOU WANT and still keep the accumulated prize money up.” Emphasis on the word quit.
@darionnash6575 he consented to being in a room for 30 days. That’s not sleep deprivation, a marathon, or getting sick from mold machines. He thought he consented to something similar to the actual video. What he got was months of therapy
He assumed that his health would be taken care of while he was in the room. But instead, he got little sleep due to the lights staying on. He was forced to walk a marathon on that little sleep and that destroyed his feet. All of this while a moldy ice cream machine gave him, an asthmatic, respiratory issues.
He has stated that he had to go through a rigorous amount of therapy to fully heal
@@The3rdAttept Let’s look at the definition of torture for a second. “Torture is the deliberate infliction of severe pain or suffering on a person for reasons including punishment, extracting a confession, interrogation for information, or intimidating third parties.” If I watched the video correctly and he said what I think he said, which was that he consented to said challenge you’re considering to be torture yet had full control on when it ended, that genuinely makes me wonder in what world that would be torture.
Damn I just spent an hour making a big comment and it didn’t post
But basically Jake Weddle was tortured for real and Soggy Cereal just writes it off because he said it was “war crimes”, which admittedly is an exaggeration but it doesn’t change that torture happened.
Awesome video, finally someone doesn’t believe everything to a random guy coming out of nowhere with a 10K monetised YouTube account just to make some crazy ass allegation and pocket 5 figures in the process.
Holy fuck an hour and half long video? Damn dude want me to send you some ice packs for your back? It must be hard carrying YouTube on your back like this...
Glazing Mr beast isn’t the best look but I guess it gets you hits.. Way to cherry pick the claims made. And you don’t even address the total clean up job they did editing their back catalog after the first video.
this video isn't about condeming mrbeast. its about exposing dogpack. and where did he cherry pick? i mean he literally went over every point that Dogpack made.
This video is great, and I commend the journalism that went into the making of it, however you should probably remove the part about CamNuggets here at 32:39. I took a look at the server myself, and Cam wasn't willingly watching that, but instead notifying the moderators that that was happening, even if in a pretty sloppy way.
@thetacticalguy62 A thousand good deed, yet your still choose to complain about the one which wasn't. The nature of us humans. He's been getting slandering for past 4 months for countless of things he didn't even do, that alone makes dog pack more disgusting among the two. And yes Mr beast is infact not a good guy at all, but he done deeds which shouldn't be buried just because he made mistakes too.
@@cheeselad1074what? Mrbeast is not changing s###. He literally is participating in market manipulation and the first illegal lottery was confirmed to be true by soggy himself
Most of the allegations are false and the ones that aren't were due to inexperience, which Mr. Beast and his company has taken tangible steps to prevent ever happening again. This changes a ton.
I didnt trust the info because thats his first video, i agree that some of the things were wierd and not ok and that Mr. Beast should take responsibility.
Wait if he contacted you, does that mean he like contacted like a bunch of people so people use his video as a source? Because I remember like a bunch of videos releasing like in a 3 day period using his video as a source, then bigger YouTubers/content creators saw those videos, went to the source and reported that?
Excellent research and journalism on display here. Thank you for taking the time to look into things instead of jumping on that huge MrBeast-bashing train when this all came out. Appreciate all the work you did!
@@cheeselad1074 I agree, beast should have done his background check, he should be accountable for that, and no one should make excuses. that's my point.
i don’t understand why you flew to the states to only ask if dogpack was a bad employee and not ask about any of the accusations that really mattered. the CGI stuff, who cares. there were several allegations of sexual misconduct that weren’t even asked about
not really anything done by Jimmy was illegal but definitely some morally wrong and dumb decisions like lack of background checks. Did I get that right
I love how Dog went out and dunk on anime causing him to get suspicion from all side and then he got mogged and investigated by pretty much everyone lol, truly a slop meme magic.
There is a lot of Bull Crap that this video insuniates. Even if most of the claims you brought about are indeed not true as you mentioned, you are clearly on Mr. Beasts side. But... List of things not mentioned in this video - The amount of content and clips that are being deleted in past Mr. Beast videos - The actual subject of the Lacoya hill allegation, you did not bother mentioning how unethical it was that they even kept him around - The travesties at Beast games - The actual grooming of lava - The claim made by Jess, "That guy thats making a video on me has footage on me that could absolutely get him canceled" - The horrible working conditions if you remember correctly -The misogyny - The actuall percentage of money thats being donated to charity (0.2%) - how his company is a nepotist company - not to even mention Jimmy's mom - You didnt even mention the fact that they used CGI to inhance the charities in africa, the whole solar pannel deceptions, which is personally frustrating to me, and the fake hospital - And a few more Even though Jake did get some info wrong, you have not shown any sompathy to the fact that he had to bear unbarable conditions with the lights on, and a lot of presure from Mr. Beast himself
Now i do think that Dogpack has infact manipulated some information to forward his agenda like you mentioned But is really comes off as if you are really trying your best defend Mr. Beast and giving him the benefit of the doubt at every turn And even the signatures, legal or not, i doubt that's what the kids wanted, why did Tyler look around and then sign Ty, they were indeed being despective there, but still...
And taking the words of people who work at Mr. Beast who definitely seem like they are on his "good side" imo at their word? I dunno I believe most of what you said as you have provided substantial proof for a lot of them, but I wish you did take your time because there is a lot more you should have covered
It Ultimately doesn't matter because I have a feeling that Dogpack is definitely cooking up a properly researched video this time, and is going to reveal Bombshells that we cannot probably even imagine. Something that you'll probably take half a year to try and refute Good Job though 👍
@@BluyMolla-fj8ql Then you're an idiot, Dogpack has been "Careless" about everything, which you would know if you actually watched the video. Also he removed the video 2 months after he found out if was BS, Why remove it now instead of then.
@@drsamquantum I say that because, ever since the "3rd" video Dogpack released, he has received a ton of criticism and yes, he was careless about the cp thing But I think that him removing that 3rd video is a sign that he is genuinely taking some of the criticism So I assume that he is taking his time right now and evaluating all his evidence before the third video comes out I have faith this time
Did you even watch the video, Dogpack lied about the majority of the information he presented, If you think Dogpack's next video will have proper research your deluded.
Brother he proved dogpack 404 wrong And all the alligations are already proven against mrbeast And as he said in the video he showed dogpack 404 wrong not mrbeast and she also said that mrbeast himself is wrong if you watched the full video
While I do think your argument against DogPack is sound and I agree that he likely is acting out of spite to some extent, I also think that it's missing a little bit of the point here. Even if he is obfuscating the facts and presenting misinformation, the core of what is being said is true - Jimmy is not entirely honest in his videos as he makes himself out to be, he DID end up having an RSO on payroll, the conditions that Jake Weddle had to endure for the video were inhumane to a degree, regardless of the payout he received, and there is no way that you can charitably look at Jimmy's message about that anime to Ava and think that he was suggesting it for the plot he definitely knew about. DogPack, either intentionally or unintentionally, presents the allegations to be worse than they actually are - but that doesn't mean that the truth of the matter isn't still bad.
I think your dislike of Dawson bleeds into the video a little too much (like manipulating Rosanna? She's a grown woman with her own opinions, come on) and absolves Jimmy of a lot of behaviors that would be frowned upon if any other creators did the same thing.
@simo_viewer_pr9030 here's the thing though, with Ava thinking that the image was CP, the fact that it actually isn't doesn't really matter. Dawson and Rosanna did not do their due diligence to confirm that the image was of an 18 year old, but at the same time, why would anyone dig deeper into an image that they are primed to believe is CP?? They claim to have downloaded it, which is definitely not legal if it was CP, but then Soggy reverse image searching the picture to confirm the age of Ivanka is just as suspect, no? If you're making an argument against character, I feel like the least you can do is not be a hypocrite.
Soggy is right that they did not do their research (which I believe is fair given the circumstances), but to claim that it was an intentional lie is not only pushing a narrative he can't prove, but again misses the point that the behavior is objectively shady. It's far more likely that they just wanted to bring something serious to light, which is why the argument about "farming engagement" makes no sense. Why would you not want a video like that to perform well? It's especially a weird argument when Soggy is doing the exact same A B testing for this video.
The war crime thing was also obviously just a joke, anyone who actually believed that Jimmy committed a war crime lack critical thinking skills. That's on them, not Weddle, who never actually claims that he believes that Jimmy is a war criminal.
Again, I agree with the premise of what Soggy says about DogPack. But just like DogPack's videos, while there are a few allegations that stick, I think he goes a little too far in assuming bad intent in many of his points.
As Soggy states in the beginning, as soon as you lie about ONE thing, ALL of your allegations become questionable. The CP thing is a complete lie that got used for engagement baiting by both DogPack and Rosanna. It's true that MrBeast isn't the wholesome person he seemed to be, but what DogPack did is definitely not legal. And Weddle also tried capitalizing on the whole MrBeast thing by making up even more allegations.
Really good video man, however just wanted to point out the interview with HR felt weird to me she is clearly downplaying the situation. If nothing serious happened ? why was Locoya moved to a side company ? just moving assistant would suffice if they had a misunderstanding or something funny was taken the wrong way. I am speculating here but moving your COO to a side company is way beyond this. This was clearly done to hush hush the situation so everyone can move on. HR is clearly trying to downplay so as paint their company in a good light. For her there is no reason to say anything that incriminates their policies or work ethics.
I am just a viewer tho not on either side just that part of the video specifically felt manipulative.
this was not on my bingo card for this month like i knew dog pack was a dumbass but there was a lot of things witch i thought where the truth but nah hes stupid
"Silence me with threats of slander" The attempted silence with threats of slander from Dogpack "I'm gonna cook you". Soggy 5 seconds earlier 'I did not want to make a video with unsubstantiated proof' when being told he was over dramatic. Can't make this up.
Legend says that if you mention CamNuggets, he'll appear in the comment thread and comment "womp womp" before vanishing into the night in search of more brown balloon knots to look at
When talking about the 100 boys vs. 100 girls video, you only mentioned the fact that some of the competitors were not subscribers, but the main allegation on this video being scripted was about purpousefully helping the girls team and "paying off" the guy who could solve the rubiks cubes to leave.
To be honest I really looked up to you even bragging to my lil brother how this small youtuber exposed Arek( still watch and have huge respect for those videos) but what you're doing now I don't know. When dog pack told the world of MrBeast... To me, the bothe of you were like Batman and Superman battling Lex Luther and Joker
DogPack404 is not a good person, the world of MrBeast he told everyone isn’t true, I mean literally watch the video, the employees have a completely different view of the company than DogPack. DogPack404 is a lying and conniving manipulator who is upset that he was fired from the MrBeast company. This isn’t me saying MrBeast is a good person, this is me saying DogPack404 isn’t a good person.
@@randomguy2210Yes, you have to reiterate that Kris is a vile human being because that was totally relevant to your original claim. Also, do you have evidence that Soggy's paid to do this despite literally putting MrBeast to shame as well (like admitting that the first illegal lottery was, in fact, illegal)? You're shaming Soggy for providing "no evidence" so why don't you provide it.
@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms "trust me bro" kris didnt like em young he is payd and you are gullible, you believe "interviews" more then screenshots, incredible 💀💀🤡🤡
Bro is doing 720s on Dogboy's meat. Soggy literally shows receipts, interviews with employees, screenshots, testimonies and behind the scenes footage AND also states that MrBeast isn't an angle. You're not proving a point, you're just being disingenuous.
Adding in a preface that the points I bring up aren't to try and dispel arguments in support of one party or another. In 100% personal honesty, I just don't love the mob mentality that arises from sensationalist criticisms that come out and for people to go "Dawson bad, Jimmy good" all of a sudden. This is really to encourage people to think critically and try and be as informed as possible when coming to conclusions.
In regards to the Eric Weddle stuff, your argument is severely flawed. I won't comment on the contents with Dawson too much, i agree with raising scrutiny over accusations that serious. A dialogue should be formed during situations like this to poke holes in a story wherever possible. Common technique used in professional journalism. However, the tendencies and flaws with the Eric Weddle do overlap into the entirety of the video.
Your argument hinges on the war crime comment being or not being a joke, and that Weddle wasnt a detainee. By the legal definition, no Weddle was not a detainee with no say in the matter whilst being tortured. However, Dustin drawing parallels of "the things youre being subjected would qualify as a war crime in an analogous setting" is still a valid point. If a prisoner of war was forced, in Weddles case extremely encouraged, to run a marathon and be subject to sleep deprivation, and the rest of the hostile living conditions then yeah that would be a war crime. So yes the initial comment was made as a joke, it was still founded in reality. It was still a commentary that whats going on was disgusting.
Next was the idea that "Jake got paid so whats he bitching about" and "he was a volunteer" thats also come up a ton in the comments. That's the most privileged criticism imaginable lmao. People do shit for money, yes. Workplace regulations and ethics committees exist to prevent people from enduring war crime ADJACENT conditions to earn said money. Weddle could have very well be subjected to the same challenge under safer conditions. The lights didn't have to stay on 24/7, time lapse shots be damned. The ice cream machine was a fun prop for the cinematics sure. Those machines aren't hard to maintain, I'd know i did it for years. A staffer couldnt run the wash cycle or wheel the thing out of the room at night? The challenges Weddle cited, the rubiks cube and the marathon, arent just fun challenges people can do on a whim. Rubiks cubes are solved with pre established patterns that if you dont know ahead already then good luck figuring it out. It's not impossible but sure that's the not bad one. Marathon runners train their ENTIRE lives for that. And even then the injury report for in race injuries is about 30% in professional athletes. Not a writer who's been living similarly to a prisoner of war. It'd be fucked up to ask a marathon runner to run a marathon in those conditions.
Lastly, as a more general point, if you're willing to make the entire bit about crossing off the cards behind you, then you afford yourself the same level of scrutiny. You make the EXACT same mistakes (clowning on Jake for adding the disclaimer about the AI after the video when you then do the same exact bit over the fake out FBI report) you try and pin on Dawson and Jake, how am i supposed to take you seriously? I'm not saying I don't believe your claims, but you're missing the forest for the trees repeatedly. Dawson cited the use of CGI to clue in the audience that the production model of MrBeast is not transparent and deceptive tactics are employed regularly. If theyre willing to claim "ALL of our videos are real", then why use CG at all? It's for the cinematography, obviously. His audience fundamentally lacks the same critical thinking skills to put that together. Sure they did have a real shredder, but the one from the preview clip looked way more intense and attention grabbing. That aspect of the context is vital to a making a counter arguments. I'm not trying to say your arguments are invalid, incorrect, or that there isnt some serious explaining that needs to be done. But why should i or anyone take your word as fact (and again, I'm not saying I don't or people shouldn't) when MULTIPLE of your discussion points are predicated on strawman arguments at best and nitpicking semantics at worst?
Back when MrBeast was in a vulnerable state after Ava Tyson's situation, we just wanted to think that MrBeast was done. Hence, Dogpack's timing with his two big uploads was literally perfect because we thought his workers would step up against him in that vulnerable state. Given he's an ex-employee of MrBeast himself, it seemt there's no way he would tell such obvious lies.
man a 1 and a half hour of pure dissing dog pack is insane. I have a lot of respect for you. Thank you for the video. I will sent this to my friendds that are believing dog pack and what he says. 🙂
I'm amazed at all the people in the comments glazing Mr. Beast. Are you deleting comments? Dogpack is not (or at least was not) a professional journalist or even really a professional YouTuber. Of course he is going to get some things wrong.
Why does it matter if Delaware had his nickname when he worked at Best Buy? It's been admitted that he was on the registry and evidence of that has been shown.
I dont feel like going against everything point by point. Obviously dogpack is sensationalist but most of the things he talked about point to actual things Mr Beast and co. Is or has been doing. All he has done wrong is be extremely bad at being a journalist and checking information and confirming things.
You are also doing exactly what he did by presenting it as CP when it wasn't. The problem was they believed it was "CP" posting it in the group originally. You subsequently criticize him about it for him looking at CP in the same way that he did. Which, as far as I am aware it is not an actual naked picture but i haven't personally seen it. But regardless you are basically criticizing them in the same way they criticized Tyson. It's a complete lack of self-awareness.
Not sure it's a great idea to show people in your video directly how to file a false report on the two of them, while joking about doing it. This is dangerously close to encouraging this kind of harassment, basically the same kind of dogwhistle "joke" suggesting harassment then immediately saying it's totally just a joke don't do that.
Anyway, I couldn't care less about dogpack, obviously he's not the best person to be doing this but I think it's a good idea to put more scrutiny on Mr Beast and co.
Did we watch the same video? He literally explained that dogpack manipulated people and evidence in order to be biased and show a one sided perspective editing the lottery ticket video and the call from the ex mrbeast employee that was taken out of context. The Delaware name employee is important because it can prove that mrbeast did not hire the sex offender and instead just got a random guy from Best buy and assumed that they had a clean record
41:23 my problem with this is that it is never stated that youtubers can't see if you are subscribed if your subs are private, like just putting that in the video would be cool, cuz a lot of people don't know that, so their chance of winning is literally 0.
Maybe they're getting deleted, but I'm surprised not to see any comments about how Soggy Cereal is very clearly manipulating HIS viewers while hypocritically accusing DogPack of doing the same thing... Just a few wild things in the first few minutes of this video: 1) How is it that you can say that MrBeast's actions are only "alleged" while DogPack's are "confirmed"? How is that in any way true? 2) Why would the recorded conversation was beinig "watercooler talk" make it any less concerning? Plus, the only person saying it's watercooler talk is the most biased person on the PLANET on the topic (i.e., the person in the recording), who Soggy presented as a "credible" source based solely on having worked at MrBeast for 5 years. 3) Jake being a comedy writer by trade does not in ANY WAY discredit his accounts of traumatic events... I mean seriously dude... 4) Alleging that Jake having an AI MrBeast say things and then IMMEDIATELY saying that it's just AI was an attempt at making people think Jimmy actually said those things is just...SUCH a reach. 5) Having money dangled in front of your face ($10k per day) in order to do dangerous and/or unhealthy and/or injurious things is despicable, EVEN IF Jake could have left. Could he? Yes. But only if he's ok with giving up the financial opportunity of a lifetime. So people do things they otherwise wouldn't. People being interrogated ALSO often have a way out (giving up sensitive info, etc.), but they very often choose not to take it. Yes, the circumstances are different, but both are deeply coercive.
The points here seemed really weak tbh. The guy above me already said, but I also wanna go further on the last part. I feelclike at that point, you're just missing the whole point of Mr Beast challenges to begin with. You need to understand, that the challenge can be brutal, but you're accepting it for the money. Its nowhere near comparible to interrogation, because you're consentually decide to do the challenge for the money, you need to know if you're genuinely can do it or not. That's the whole point of a challenge for money. Like this just feels like you're cuddling Jake Weddle at this point
And how is he manipulating exactly? Where's the proof of this "manipulation"? Because all I see in your comments are questions answered in this video. Oh let me guess "wELL GivE mE tHe TImE STampS" I have a life and do something other than just making sentences in the internet. if you do infact give me evidence, then sure, I'll believe you.
sorry - how is the ai thing not a reach considering most of dogpack's video relied on the exact same cut techniques to push a narrative? what was even the POINT of making that video in the first place? nobody said jake being a comedy writer discounted his retelling of traumatic events he literally compared himself to rape victims, which is what cereal said he didnt fw. if he leaves he keeps a reasonable sum of money and tbh this is how most contests work - mr beast is way more generous than the average reality show, he reached out to compensate him. i also dont know why it being watercooler talk makes it serious - this point is kind of a wash
Just want to add 50:40 calling out the insider “they think? love the lack of confidence in their own claim” 10:30 not calling out this guy for using the word “I don’t think” and “I don’t know” as “lack of confidence” 21:03 another example of not calling out “from what I understand” and just accepting oh yeah it got into spam folder
This is EXACTLY what I thought too. He only used allegedly when referring to MrBeast so he can deviate the narrative away from him and with the Jake Weddle stuff it seemed like MrBeast is exploiting people’s desperation for money for the sake of entertainment 🤷🏻♀️
Point one is easy to figure out if you have a brain, by the way. Dog pack recorded 3 videos of proof of him being malicious in which he made many ALLEGATIONS against Mr Beast. One is confirmed. The other is alleged. Are you slow?
1) Because almost all of the alleged stuff is in fact false, and comes from a confirmed scumbag, hence the alleged Mr. Beast and confirmed DogPack404. This is also a nice reference to Content Cop - Jake Paul 2) Yeah, because trusting someone who worked for only 3 weeks and made the videos purely out of spite (along with the fact he was not really a good employee anyway) makes more sense than trusting someone who worked with Jimmy for 5 years (2017-2021), and is more experienced than the former. 3) Just watch the interviews dawg... 4) Jake should have put the disclaimer before, because it doesn't make sense you put it after using an AI audio as "proof" of MrBeast being bad other than malicious reasons. 5) Again, just watch the interviews... Also worth mentioning that he doesn't defend MrBeast (I bring that up incase you call him or me a glazer), he criticizes him in the video, but makes the FACTUAL claim that DogPack outright lied about him
There is proof that Mr.Beast knew about chris tyson's pervertness like being in his Discord server and making inappropriate comments in front of kids and also the Shadman poster in his room, editing almost 100 old videos, deleting thousands of negative comments on his new videos, faking videos even now (eg. Things in "coming up" never come up), guy "Steve" posted not receiving gift even when his name was called out on stream, Ryan Trahan confirmed that the timer in nuclear bunker video was edited in post, crypto scams, abandoned city video qctually not abandoned, jimmy claims only way out by helicopter when confirmed it can be Uber'ed etc.
Both DogPack and Soggy have some valid points but they both convenienty pick and choose and edit things to suit their narrative.
Recently, DogPack may have gone after sone petty things but a lot of his main claims and others are still true from what is evident.
8:14 and beyond: objection! leading questions. But yeah, dogpack being in every single youtubers comment section that criticized him and his videos with rosanna pansini tipped me off to how much of a bad faith actor he is.
To be perfectly honest, I did believe DogPack at first! Why? Well, there are multiple reasons. The biggest reason was probably the Chris Tyson situation that literally had just happened and it seemed like DogPack saw the opportunity to present some more serious stuff without being ridiculed/harassed online. Then there was the fact that SO many people were talking about it online which was how I found his video in the first place, and from my POV, this strengthened his creddibility. In my mind he didn't know he would blow up and since he didn't monetize the videos I genuinely thought he was speaking from heart. Logan Paul is a reason by himself! DogPack also claimed to be an ex MrBeast employee and it's my fault for looking past the point that he was FIRED! These reasons coupled with his excellent editing, dry sense of humor and David vs Goliath position, made me genuinely want to root for the guy. If you had asked me back then what I thought of his video (the first one) I would have said it was the best one this year due to the absolute bombshell it was!
This got strengthened even further due to the MrBeast team's poor responses/lack there of. The fact that he was completely silent on the matter for such a long time and the fact that non of his employees could disprove anything substantual, and the whole Lunchly situation also simply added fuel to the fire (an anti-response even). Thankfully though, I didn't act on any of this in any way! I never mentioned it to anyone, never posted anything online, etc, etc. If I would have though, I likely would have aslo done some deeper reseach myself so we win some we lose some!
After some time though, I noticed people starting to call DogPack out but I didn't click on any of the videos since I had quite frankly moved on. This video however, opened my eyes to say the least so thanks! Genuinely great journalism (might as well call you SoggyZilla lmao), and even though you didn't cover everything, the things you missed were smaller things (things like the stuff the MrBeast team chose to respond to instead of the important stuff). Overall 10/10 video, watched all of it and I hope it blows up! This makes it even more apparent that MrBeast SHOULD respond! Keep going my man!
Also! I didn't get an ad when you said I would, now I feel scammed and you should expose yourself!
31:10 was about to say, like, has dogpack even watched the show, obviously not, its actually a pretty good anime highlighting a serious issue in japan, like what happens to the girl in the anime is actually happening to real kids and teenagers.
dont mean to be a dawson glazer. but want to point out the hypocrisy of this video. you are disgruntled at dawson for what he said about you. you rebut your own statement of being manipulative when you are doing the same thing he is doing but directly insulting him. you have "witnesses" that can easily be reached and paid off by Mrbeast and so meaning you could have been too. im not saying all of them are not real. the 1million winner is indeed an out of context. and at the fake fan contestant is just a sloppy disgace of an excuse you could have picked any person and use them in an interview form and LIE for your video that the event was cancelled because of covid. while some of your evidence are plausible it is still alleged and just sound reasoning. a perfectly good way to fortify a lie. while you said just because you are targetting dawson doesn't mean you are siding with Mrbeast which you only called him once a piece of shit there. so it is not deniable that you are a affilliated with Mrbeast and just defending him. by calling out dawson. Dawson's videos are all interpreted as Alleged while it is snide and malicious of him to go beyond how he is that nitpick Mrbeast's action it is still evidence that he does those things. and when you said you got to look at the evidence you just called him a piece of shit. and not actually providing ACTUAL evidence yourself he is lying except saying Mrbeast would have say in this scenario. i am just skeptical of this video because of how it formatted and one sided it is portraying. you deliberately doing what Dawson is doing. except you leave no reason for people to think whether its true or not. atleast Dawson addresses that his statements are all alleged and can be open to interpretation that's why at the start of the whole Mrbeast Drama people are still siding with Mrbeast because Dawson could still be wrong. while you did a really great job disproving some of it. you still hold information that inside Mrbeast would have had. and have connection in Mrbeast's side. the old man that winked could have easily been paid by Mrbeast to say those things and people would believe it. right now this video is just putting a stalement on whose's side are actually wrong. so far you only proved Dawson is butthurt he got fired which he openly expressed that fact. and he used information that is open to the internet and does not break his NDA. you literally called him out for not breaking his NDA which is illegal something Dawson repeatedly said wont do. and while this may sound like im siding with Dawson but i don't see how the fact Dawson is benefitting from this drama. so far he has 3 video that is only monetized at the 2 video and made 2 friends that also hate Mrbeast. a former employee that literally got tortured at the set and didn't get paid for it. and a youtuber that's war freak on destroying Mrbeast's image because she was edit out of a Mrbeast challenge. so it is understand why they are war freak on destroyog Mrbeast's image but like Dawson said look at the evidence. it seems that it still stands. this video just elaborately explained what Mrbeast's PR guy at twitter said 2months ago. i dont think anything changed except some another big name made an hour and half long video nitpicking Dawson's statement.
@@HannanAhmed-xf1uq i did not in anyway or form implied or defer it in any way that Dogpack is not nitpicking Mrbeast's action. on contrary actually since Dogpack nitpick every little thing Mrbeast did and i think its satire at this point. but just because i said "his nitpicks" does not mean Dogpack did no wrong. i think he is indeed butthurt and a disgruntled employee of Mrbeast. ive always taught that and he didn't actually deny it nor accepted it. but Dogpack's video atleast has some "professionalism" to some level and actually form his statement from zero to everythingn he researched about. Soggy's video is based on the 3 videos and influence so far of Dogpack. meaning Soggy's video point is to discredit Dogpack's statement and create a new discourse and take away Mrbeast's blame. its just pointing out the hypocrisy of this video that he is implying Dogpack a scheming narcissist that would do and say anything to get his point across while doing the same thing in this very video.
i think this because it is certainly what Mrbeast would do to get the blame off him and clean his name by dirtying Dogpack's reputation. i mean look at the literal comment here. it is full of people saying that Dogpack is not to be trusted and he is the evil asshole all along.
People. think for yourselves. Mrbeast did something bad. Dogpack was fired from Mrbeast team. he sought to seek revenge by exposing his lies to the people and exploits of the company. and soggy cereal is exposing Dogpack's schemes and dirty method to get his point across. i think it is indeed dirty and shitty of rossana to report Mrbeast and Dogpack not fact checking the C(heese) P(izza) before airing it all over the internet. but what this video is doing is the same. Anti-Mrbeast crew will see this and gonna make a reply for their video too. fueling more flame. like a great duck once said "the slop thickens"
@@DDArtsArts its all alleged. i am looking at this as a viewer perspective i dont know soggy cereal nor dogpack. it is just a speculation from this video.
@@HannanAhmed-xf1uq you could except he's not a millionaire. and i did not say that soggy's point is invalid i stated several times it could have been true. but like as i said in my conclusion. it doesn't really add anything except call Dogpack an asshole. and point out his nitpicks. Dogpack's entire point is to expose Mrbeast's exploitative method in his videos. and as i got from this very video is that Soggy's point is just calling Dogpack an asshole and call out his manipulative schemes and adding more to the flames. and fortifying his statement by his own investigations. which is good since there's factual evidence for soggy to call him out on it. but majority of it are soggy actually glazing Mrbeast and defending him to a tee that it is possible that he could be a paid affiliate by Mrbeast for making this thorough video. its just comes off like a Mrbeast PR move of letting other attack on his behalf. Soggy is literally doing what Dogpack is doing. it is both slander and it is a malicious intent. except in Soggy's case he has no hat in the table he was just butthurt at Dogpack for insinuating Soggy's is wrong and stupid. so there is no motive for this video except make Dogpack look bad and use Dogpack's' own weapon against him. i want to state that im not trying to defend Dogpack nor trying to insult Soggy before this video i like Soggy's video and i am still skeptical of Dogpack's "evidence" its just pointing out that soggy is fighting fire with fire and the worst part is its not his fight.
edit: i dont think it should be stated what soggy didn't go through. like the gambling and the other evil stuff. i am pointing out the hypocrisy and the malicious intent of this video. its not pointing out Dogpack's mistakes and fact checking all of his evidence its about his delivery on it. it seems like he heavily imply that Dogpack is the evil person here and making it seems like Mrbeast is just an innocent Billionaire that was around people that wanted his money and got tricked into it. i think Mrbeast PR team actually monitored this video on how vile he should portray dogpack and fact check everything they can and throw ava kris under the bus as Mrbeast PR team instructed as Mrbeast already said in his tweets. like my original statement Soggy cereal just sounds like the PR Guy that tweeted the raccoon is not a paid actor.
Then by your logic, is it possible for me to say that all all the evidence from the former employees and contestants like jake etc in dog packs vid could also have been paid by dog pack to say whatever he wanted them to say? In this case, why would you take dawson's word over soggy's? In the end, all it comes down to is the actual FACTUAL evidence that both creators provided and imo soggy cereal provided way more convincing evidence, and i belive that he has done a way better job in making dawson look like an ahole than dogpack made jimmy look like. Some things dawson said are still valid, like the first lottery and also some of jake's treatment (which soggy acknowledged). In the end, other stuff like coffee aillas gambling video, the ava kris tyson situation and the charity stuff, and beast games was the stuff that dawdon should have brought up (also the two other points), but instead he lied, manipulated and went on a rampage against his former co-workers
@@batatah i never said that dogpack gets a pass , i just pointed out that he didn't show any proof in this particular section . its people like you who directly jump to conclusions without even understanding the full thing . and no dogpack doesn't get a pass and neither should soggy . this video is incredibly detailed so it just felt odd not including a solid proof in that particular section but i think im arguing with a wall so it doesnt matter
Same goes with almost literally every accusation DogPack made? Most of his proofs are "this person said". Why the double standards? Why does DogPack get a pass but this doesn't?
No, MrBeast and dogpack are both douches, but dogpack is being a whiney baby cause he got fired. I understand some of dogpacks claims are true, but there's much more that are false. MrBeast has done more good than bad, people are over exaggerating to be honest.
He may be innocent of a lot of the shit dogpack's accused him of but he's still a shady person, the point of this video is to talk about how much of a fucking lying weasel dogpack is
Yes-it does. It means people lie about Mr Beast for attention and sadly other people believe it! If Mr Beast took the time to address every BS allegation or sue every fool who lies, he’d never have time to get any work done!
Dude, I knew something was wrong with Dogpack404 cuz he just came up suddenly and exposed these details to us about mr.beast, but why didn't he do it before? Idk, it felt really off. But now, idk who to believe, should believe soggy or him? So for now ima still in the middle.
11:22 also just gotta point out, no it doesn't violate the Geneva Convention, that only applies to actions committed in a war, not a stupid challenge made for a YouTube channel. Could it have violated other international laws or national/state/county/local laws? sure, maybe, idk? but you would need to prove that and oh I don't know report it to the police.
TL;DR The Geneva Convention does not apply to anything domestic whether it be law enforcement/government or civilians, it ONLY applies to actions and decisions made in war.
i dont like the comments here attacking Jake Weddle personally. Like who cares if you find him funny or not. leave the man alone. Also, just bc dogpak presented the statement as not a joke, its clear to me that Jake thought of it as a joke bc he laughed the whole time he said it. Further, even if a person can leave, doesnt mean they will. Money is a powerful thing as Jake explains, and victims all the time feel trapped and people say "why didnt you leave sooner". Also, clearly mr. beast feels bad for what happened to Jake, or he wouldnt keep giving him money.
TLDR i just think Jake is a victim of mr. beast and dogpak and we shouldnt attack him personally
Although Soggy Cereal made sense on Delaware guy, Jimmy is still hiding identity and not changed, like Kris Tyson wearing a mask in that one MrBeast from the newer videos. You can clearly see that it is Kris. My little brother didn’t remember which video is it in the last time he checked but yeah, MrBeast is a disgusting man to still allow Kris in it. Other than that, great video
and the people in the comments spammin copy pasta "dogpack404 is not depressed" blah blah blah, as if mrbeast is gonna do something to him like come on
Getting current beast employees to debunk thigs that are physically provable is scandalous, I don't even have to watch the rest of this to know that. The pic of Jimmy with the shadman poster should be enough, intead we die on the hill. Comedy.
@@AnotherAustin-z7b not to mention the slew of opportunities that come with working for Mr. Beast, the biggest YouTuber in the world, and the possible negatives that would come out in the industry if Jimmy spoke to people BTS to blackball him. All we know is what we can see at face value. Dogpack made a COUPLE errors in his argument, most of the rest is entirely undeniable to anyone except those with Beast copium disorder
It's the same argument as rhe "disgruntled employee" argument. Acting like he is a hypocrite for trying to keep his job that he needs to literally just exist and have food and a place to live. Acting like it makes more sense to think someone who gets fired is going to go on a personal vendetta instead of just speaking out about the things that they wouldn't before because they couldn't because it was necessary to keep their job and source of income.
Victims of wage theft aren't believed all the time, even with evidence, because they get treated as disgruntled employees, but the fact is when someone has control over your only source of income they have complete control over you. If your job is forcing you to work overtime without overtime pay, you need that job and can't afford to speak out. And considering how likely it is that you report them and nothing is done about it and you put your job and career at risk for no reason, i don't know why people act like it's astonishing that a current employee is willing to lie to keep their job and an ex employee no longer needs to lie and cover for their former employer.
People almost always automatically side with the business, even though they are usually doing the shady stuff they are accused of. I've literally seen it happen personally multiple times.
1:25:45 i feel this same way with the new youtube ad system where the line goes for 5 seconds instead of the actual time of the ad, and cuz i have a chrome extension that has a feature for youtube where you can change the speed of a youtube video (even ads), it tricks me to just staying for a little while and get my 3 seconds that was wasted
Worst part of all of this is that ali koca can claim he was right about everything along and act like he did the research when in reality he was talking out of his ass
I think you went too far on one point - people do expect the personal MB signatures on the T-shirts so it's a shitty thing to do, it does not matter whether those fake sigs were authorized. Otherwise, good job.
@@chinyang1200 since I neither claimed that it's illegal nor did I state that he did not give his consent, you have not actually replied to anything written by me.
@@simo_viewer_pr9030 and I replied to that reply, saying that then you simply don't sell more of your initials than you can handle. Come on, even you can get it.
Another guy in the replies already said that it's impossible for him to sign EVERY SINGLE SHIRT in one stream. It also sounds kind of dumb to call this behaviour "shitty", and the value is almost the exact same for a MrBeast fan. This just sounds like a far-fetched attempt to "cancel" him.
@@sergeyromanov5560 cause I don't see how It's much Of a problem . And It's not illegal also it shows he gave consent . But also Expecting to sign that much Without any problems is you people problem not his
@@chinyang1200 yeah, no, when we see his signature - not those of his friends, but his - we do expect it to be literally his. I don't see why you see a need to defend him on this point, really.
@@sergeyromanov5560 the thing is Mr beast is not the one creating expectations though . We all have our own ideas and expectations of someone . Unless of course I missed something in that Live stream where he said he'll sign those shirts personally
My defense for that is that . Can you sign hundreds if not thousand of shirts in one stream ? Cause I don't know if you know human anatomy, you'd be lucky to even able to move your hand after A few dozens shirts signed
Beong lgal doesn't mean it's right, and doesn't erase the dubious ethics around framing it in a way that he was aware he was being recorded and was willingly handing over information to aid in the investigation when it was in fact not the case
Well Alex Rosen has at least seemed to learn and substentially improve his approach following it. I still din't liie his personality o his politics but that's besides the point
None in a way . Mr beast still has a lot of problems but Dogpack is Definitely in a lot of wrong considering The amount of lies , False accusations and Manipulation.
One thing we can't deny about Dogpack is that he definitely knew his stuff when it comes to using psychological manipulation for getting viral videos and that his imagination is beyond the norm because he was able to string up a pretty wild believable story that not only went viral but started a whole movement or genre of Mr Beast hate content.
I totally believed 90% of the stuff he said and I'm usually skeptical about a lot but this was a well played con.
Kuddos to you Cereal for doing the hard work that millions weren't willing or never going to do.
I’m gonna remain neutral on this one. In no I way I’m defending Mr beast or dogpack but I’ve had theories on both of them for starters dogpack I think with this video coming out I think 80 percent he might be lying which is a high chance that he could be making these false claims unless he provides evidence that can counter soggy critiques he’s fucked along with others.
For Mr beast he could be innocent but the fact that he hasn’t responded to all of the allegations. And only has responded via his lawyer on that one tweet it’s pretty suspicious and he has a lot of stuff at him which is pretty damming . It’s a far stretch theory but what if he’s using a deceitful tactic called false feeding which is a dirty tactic used to manipulate the accuser into feeding them false information which could set them up for troubles. It’s a scummy tactic but also can work especially when there being faced with accusations.
Whatever interpretations you take is on your opinions I said my piece.
he says multiple times throughout the video that he's not supporting mrbeast. please look at the evidence he provides against dogpack and actually watch the video
Coming from the guy who took money from MrBeast and then had a meltdown on IG being like “if anyone dares question me again, let’s just say it’ll be an awkward reunion with my PDF file dad”
Pretty lame response for someone whose whole existence can be summed up as just a disgruntled ex-employee. You can’t refute a single claim, and this is a pathetic way to dodge accountability.
This is really all you have to say? God you are a pathetic sad human being that is a failure of a comedian and if loosing over 100k on OPEN MIC's isn't evidence enough you are a failure then nothing ever will convene you. You're parents did you a disservice by lying saying you are funny.
this is what people do when they get exposed. Shouldve thought before lying multiple times. Throwing allegations can ruin lives yknow? Go hang out with your friends that publish what they think is cp on their thumbnails.
your little gang defaming jimmy and grifting off him is done go back to your failed comedy career your buddy even said the war crime thing was a joke nicely saying it was all on you for that challenge others did if fine LMFAO
13:47 so it’s ok to do that to people who are not incarcerated. People who are detained, get the lights off. The video is good, but come on, that’s B.S. arguement
Came here to say this. Just because it's not a "war crime" doesn't mean it isn't a human rights violation. Semantics are irrelevant when you're discussing traumatic experiences, and harping on every possible slip up is frankly insulting to someone with trauma brain who can't even remember last week.
I just want to say that when you made the airrack videos i 100% believed you but when the dog packed video came out it just didn't feel right so i am happy that you clarified my believes
Jesus Christ why does this entire MrBeast situation have to have so many twists to it!? Can we just leave this situation alone until someone unbiased and somewhat more competent than DogPack404 can commit to actual investigative journalism please!?
Dogpack has ironically done so much to undermine his own case. If he had just picked the topics he 100% could prove was immoral/illegal he would have so much more credibility. Instead he chose to stuff his videos with misrepresentation, irrelevant filler and SLANDER. What a fucking joke.
This video is amazing but the one mistake is that you think rosanna is getting manipulated by dogpack. No, she's very obviously playing into this, she's extremely salty that she lost a HIDE AND SEEK COMPETITION and from the beginning has been utterly obsessed with destroying mrbeast due to this minor slight. Dogpack and rosanna work in a symbiotic relationship where dogpack posts vids to her channel now as a proxy to avoid tarnishing his own channels perceived reputation by uncritical thinkers after the james warren DV allegations fell through
She's also becoming a clown too which is amusing to watch. She had a nuclear meltdown in Nicholas DeOrio's stream and apparently advertised a site called WikiFeet
Bro has the time to listen to DogPack but doesn't have the time to listen to this dude. Also, he criticizes Mr. Beast in the video as well and makes it clear that both sides aren't good. Stop being deliberately obtuse.
I wonder how much control Mr Beast has in the lunchly mold situation. Ksi and Logan paul seem to get a lot of the brunt of that one maybe because their actively talking about it but I'd imagine Mr Beast has a fair amount of say in the background. Just to be clear I don't hate any of them and I more curious than anything. I don't really like the fact that massive youtubers with shady pasts don't really receive any particularly effective punishment from youtube. When you could almost certainly guarantee that if a small youtuber did half of what some of these big youtubers get away with their career would be obliterated.
@@woodencat5990 Sure Cam saw it against his will and did right reporting the issue. However in a video called "CamNuggets On DogPack404 & MrBeast" by TrashTalk on YT; Cam had said he still stayed in the same discord with the kid flashing, and proceeded to hop on other calls immediately after reporting the kid. There was no implication that Cam had waited to confirm the mods had banned the kid, he kept using the server despite just seeing a kid flashing. There was a high risk that the kid was still in the server and expose himself. Trashtalk himself confronts him asking why he would not leave the discord and keep joining calls despite risking himself in a position to see CP again. Cam kept himself in a position to watch CP again, instead of being responsible to leave that discord server all together for at least that day. Cam got triggered in that interview that he quickly left, refuse to elaborate, and blocked Trashtalk on twitter. Don't believe me? More than happy to show the video I'm talking about with a time stamp.
@@woodencat5990He went into another video call afterwards, meaning that the minor could've easily followed him into the other call and done it again. He also attempted to falsely accuse a person named Gama of being a predator by purposely taking a tweet he made out of context to manipulate his audience. Also, he agrees that CP is fine so long as it's censored
@@drsamquantum Ok, I found it. It is bad but I still think the framing in the video is still very bad. If anything using that clip would've been much more incriminating
@@anyona19 Bruh, he said he was looking at children's bum holes. I know how to read. Between the lines that is. You should learn that as well. Even if he didn'd say he was a PDF, the accusation and the way it's framed is still super f'd up
@@anyona19 I made a post on Cams community post, That's why they commented bear mind i never called Cam a PDF-File. What i actually said he was trying to discredit Soggy and i also called cam a grifter and a clout chaser.
What do you MEAN bro? From my understanding, this was on a public call where the kid did that uprompted and he reported him. Unless there's something I'm missing, in which case please feel free to enlighten me. What do you expect someone to do in that situation? Do you understand why watching CP is even bad in the first place? If he saw it against his will, didn't seek it out, and reported it after the fact, what is there that's worth exposing? That's so stupid. It's the one problem I have with this otherwise great video. I seriously don't understand this logic
32:35 Wow wow wow.. hold up. The video was really good up until this point, but you can't just gloss over this sort of thing without elaborating. In the screenshot that you're showing, he is seen reporting this case after the kid flashed him supposedly unprompted. Chastizing DogPack for slanderous miainformation while doing this is incridibly hypocritical. This is an extremely serious claim which you have failed to prove. Like I said, the video was really good up until that point, but this just puts a huge dent in all of it. Unless you have more information that you're for some reason no showing, I'd suggest cutting that part out, retracting it and apologizing to CamNuggets. This is f'd up man
@deanbroxham Him saying "your friend Cam Nuggets looks at kids' a holes" while showing a screenshot of him tagging a deleted user presumed to be a mod, reporting him saying he flashed it during the call. Which btw I found out there is an incriminating clip of him debating another YouTuber saying he thinks censored CP can be justifiably shown in videos (regarding the DogPack Rosana situation) and being generally morally inconsistent and weird when pressed on it, so idk why Soggy didn't just use this one instead of showing him literally reporting a kid who flashed in a public call to mods, framing it as if he was seeking it out. Or just generally why he included him, seems unnecessary. It looks like he just didn't like him and was looking for an excuse to take a jab on him
@@deanbroxham Soggy claimed Cam to be a ρedo from Cam's discord message when he was notifying the mods a minor flashed their butthole in VC, and according to Cam himself that was him reporting the minor to the mods while Soggy claimed this was Cam being a ρedo.
32:00 also, do you really think jimmy sended the suggestion in terms of how the anime actually is? or just based on a small synopsis of the anime and how it just said "26 yo man and 17 yo girl, alright send it to chris"
watched all of this last night and was super impressed with the amount of detail and effort put into it all. checking here this morning i was thinking it would have more views. and I'm curious which youtubers will make a video about this video. anyways, good job man.
Nope. Feastables sells smaller portions. If you do the math, Feastables is much healthier than Hershey's when comparing the same portions and Feastables usually sells the smaller portions more anyway.
@@vitalepitts that is correct, the child is gonna eat whatever chocolate is put in front of him, i really doubt if is small or big hes gonna eat it anyway, so feastables is not doing any good on this part.
He's moreso doing the Content Cop - Jake Paul tactic: Make people believe it's about said person in the vid when in reality it's about another person (in iDubbbz's case, it's RiceGum). It's done to give the vid more attention.
Dayum, I didn't expect such a insanely long video from my boy Soggy but boy was it worth, I can't even start to imagine how much time it went into this, I hope it can help a lot of people see the reality of things.
15:30, don't get your point cereal boy, what's wrong with wanting money? don't act like you did the same by making your "slop content" video memborship only when you yourself said that it was a bad video. Oh and you got sponsored by raycons, which is basically a scam brand. I wouldn't say that that is wrong though, nothing wrong with money, just a bit hypocritical
When the jake weddle video released i just though why is he so sad? he got paid $10,000/day. I would love getting sleep deprived for that much, already am sleep depriving myself for free
not accurate enough, would be a more believable content cop if the dollar bill would be a can of pickles and you eat them after dumping them into the trashbin. i watched waaay too many content cops and can instantly spot these flaws.
I mean yeah, I'm not shocked, the truth is somewhere in the middle between superficial appearances and exaggerated knee-jerk reactions. The dogpak insight is new, but anyone that acts like any of this drama bullshit has to be black or white, is either (hopefully) a kid, or just needs a hobby at this point.
19 or not he WAS running a channel that was promoted heavily to kids and at that age you should definitely know to check on people you hire for that kind of channel. Doesn't he brag about being the most knowledgeable YouTuber?
Does it matter if Dogpack is lying or not? MrBeast is a right winger and a pos, why are you trying so hard to destroy Dogpack lol that'll just give Jimmy another W. Sorry Soggy but this video here is a slop.
thanks for telling us Mr Beast is a right winger, surely a very valid criticism. And yes, it matters whether he is lying or not. Just cause he is shady doesnt mean you slander him with lies. Also dogpack has pretty much destroyed himself repeatedly over his own videos by spreading misinformation, this is just a final touch.
He's not defending MrBeast, he's just calling out the lies and misinformation spread by Dogpack. He still shows how MrBeast is just generally a shitty person.
thanks for the informative investigation atleast the other accusation about jimmy have proof now, if you can can you do the other(Non-Dogpack accusation) investigation too like him being a crypto scammer, not paying the owner of the non-profit that made the surgery in jimmys video curing blind(i know he paid him jus this nov 1 but it still takes 2 year just t o pay the man)
im not watching this but idc what dogpack did if the discord leaks were real then all of them are pedos or at least supporters of pedos. no normal or even "edgy" people just constantly joke about kids like that.
@@scarletrotten umm bro, with all due respect, are you dumb? you first comment how you didnt watch the video, now according to you, there is no new info in this video?
@@scarletrotten there is literally new info every single minute. How is that slop? Also, dogpack's friend too makes these edgy jokes in his discord serves. The cams guy. he is a gooner.
@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms this isn't a content cop, it's content slop. no new info, he just took videos from others already milking the topic. discord leaks/chats are real meaning all the "edgy" jokes against kids or about SA still applies. that's only the chats that were recovered since they nuked their entire discord after being exposed.
If we can say it about dog pack I'll say it here too. Your not a journalist, to cry at someone for not being a journalist while you yourself have equal knowledge is stupid. This video felt like it was posted more for views and attention then true information
actually, good video or not, I cannot say, not for me to judge, but who would have thought, it is as it always goes: guy makes a video against his old boss, boss gets angry, puts out multiple videos by people he trusts and who he paid to make it more believable, guy reacts with another (maybe slandering ) video, boss gets even more angry, pays even more people to slander back, guy finally gives another video with even more slander, boss is bursting at the seams, trying to have him sent a cease and desist, makes more slandering videos through proxies about the former employee (here the guy), guy answers with friends who make videos with lots of misinformation and made-up accusations to higher up the game against the boss, boss is at his final straw, sending out even more harsh videos with even more brutal dismantle tactics and words... 🤡🤓 and that is where we just are at the moment. I guess the chronology is more or less right, we do not need to be too careful about that ...🤭 *bigyawn*🤪🥱😪😴 Ladies and gentlemen, this is the series, " disgruntled employee on weird platform slanders his weird old boss who answers back regularly with even more slander through his secret proxies", every Saturday on the same program, as always... to be continued. 🥺😅☺
Honestly this taught me out of everything to be neutral, until the drama ends i am not taking sides, its the best for me and definitely everyone else that is not caught in the drama, i might watch everything once the drama is over and i have time to watch a drama video without more news every single day, but from how much there is to this specific drama, i might as well just stay neutral forever.
@PParsa Buddy I am from those times where 0.01% people hated him. I think it's 2020-2022 and I don't hate him doing good things like donating shits but still I hate him as a person.
@@thepolticalone961this was obviously in the making for a long time, he even talked about the coffeezilla video multiple times, and he also said that he wasn't knowledgeable about crypto so he couldn't research that.
@@tanvirsourav83 releasing this video before the CZ video was a dumb move. Soggy failed to even address the bad things MB has done despite claiming he would
Something that’s sad is they soggy will never get even half as many proof as dog pack even tho he is saying the truth also @soggycerealz can u please address the allegations of the female working experience in Mr beast
Honestly, without even watching much of Dogpack's stuff, something about him always just rang false... I know that's easy to say now but I did also say so in the comments of Philip Defranco videos from the time those videos were coming out. He just never seemed to have any... I dunno, backbone, or something.
@thepolticalone961 Clearly you didn't watch the whole video. Soggy acknowledges that MrBeast isn't an angel. You're not proving a point, you're just being disingenuous.
delaware stuff i dont really agree with this video cuz its very nitpicky and jake is a cousin or some shit to delaware so he self reported here so that section was kinda weird. in the war crimes section i do agree jake weddle is pure BS here. i am kinda hung up on illigal lotto section cuz like yea desclaimer was in description but kids joined that mr beast encouraged it. debunking everything section i dont care. flase CP alligation yea i agree that video by rosana was full of shite. collatoral damage section i do agree. the mack section do not care but yea still feels rigged and that was the point. more debunking section I DONT CARE. locoya hill section, yea like can we get it checked if the audio recording is AI or no cuz it feels extreamly convinient and that still doesnt disprove the lokoya hills alligation. in the section u just said "yea dawson hates him cuz he fired him" and moved on so that section was weird. the rest i do agree with you like yea man 1 + 1=2 no shite. the employee interview section i dont trust any words they spout cuz they still work for mr beast so thay could be lying and they are glazing the mr beast corpo so hard its insane so i dont care bout that section
OVERALL: guys dont trust the internet. please come to ur own conclution. cuz like dogpack could be full of shite, jake weddle could be (kinda is) full of shite and soggy could be too , u dont know these people
you never proved that sleep deprevation aka what was done to jake weddle is not a war crime, you just said it was a joke, but sleep deprevation is still a war crime
@@tanvirsourav83 Why is Jake Weddle's 'voluntary prison challenge,' which includes sleep deprivation, being considered a war crime? He could have literally refused and left the challenge if he felt mentally weak. In summary, sleep deprivation in this non-conflict setting would not meet the criteria for a war crime.
For example, if I took the challenge of surviving 50 hours in Guantanamo Bay prison and came out with something worse than sleep deprivation, would I have any right to sue MrBeast for committing a war crime, like Jake Weddle?
@@Daymare19 If you think the route he took was drama, that is your opinion. I don't have to agree with your opinion and you don't have to agree with mine.
He chose the route of going to the person that was currently exposing Mr Beast, that is not drama in my opinion, but instead it is the smart choice. This is proven by the fact that he was offered to get paid the rest ($190k) of the prize he would have been able to get, as the Mr Beast team realized that the whole situation was not handled appropriately by them.
How do you know he did not ask for a sleeping mask or something to cover up? Care to share your source of what was asked by him and what was not asked?
In the interview he clearly states, that he asked them to turn off the lights. At that point they should have turned off the light or end the challenge! After this they no longer had his consent to participate in the challenge and should have ended it themselves, as they refused to turn the lights off.
You clearly have never been in a traumatic situation and don't show any empathy towards people that have. Someone having a mental breakdown/meltdown because they brought their traumatic experience to light is not something you should ever take lightly or make fun of it.
As far as I know he got hate for taking the $50k, not because he was trying to cancel someone.
Using an AI voice clip, he was sent by an apparent Mr Beast employee, and labeling it as such is not unethical or immoral. Should he have done a better job at labeling it that way, instead of after playing it? Sure, but just because some people are to lazy to keep watching past that voice clip is not his fault, but the fault of the people that just run with the first thing they hear.
If you have a problem with the creation of said voice clip, you should address the person that actually created the voice clip and sent it to Jake pretending it was a real recording, not the person that it was sent to.
I wish for you to never be in a similar situation.
@Silas276 no, he chose the route of taking the drama instead of getting even the idea of asking for a sleep mask or covering his eyes up with something. I would be on his side but he is just so stupid and afterwards when he got hate he had a meltdown for getting cancelled after trying to cancel someone. Also do you think it's ok to use AI to make a voice clip to destroy someone's reputation even more (even if he said it's AI right after, that is still unethical).
@@Daymare19 According to you being tortured and bringing it up after he was comfortable to come out with the information is drama. You and anyone else thinking this way are morally bankrupt in my opinion. Coming out with such heinous information is not drama.
@@Daymare19 you clearly didn't read what I wrote, as I said Mr Beast did infact not commit a war crime, but in fact did torture someone. Torture is still a war crime if done by a government or during an active war to POWs.
@Silas276 it was Jake Weddle who chose the drama route. Did you see the options he had to prevent it? He is a dumbass that cannot think whatsoever. And it's still not war so it's not a war crime
@@Daymare19 Sleep deprivation is torture, torture is a war crime. Just because someone joked about it being a war crime doesn't negate that it is actually considered a war crime.
If they did deprive him of sleep, then they did torture him. Did he give consent to be deprived of sleep? Is torture legal if he did consent to it? My personal opinion is that torture is NEVER legal!
Did MrBeast actually commit a war crime? No, but he apparently did commit a crime that is considered a war crime, if done by the government.
1. There's no war going on to commit a war crime 2. It's not a war crime 3. It's consensual 4. Jake didn't directly indicate that this challenge was the reason for his sleep deprivation
War crimes are only during war times (when there's a war in that country) Also Jake Weddle was just stupid for not
-asking for a sleep mask -turning away from the lights and closing eyes and/or have arm above your eyes. -pulling his blanket over his eyes and turning away from the lights
Sleep deprivation is torture, torture is a war crime.
If they did deprive him of sleep, then they did torture him. Did he give consent to be deprived of sleep? Is torture legal if he did consent to it? My personal opinion is that torture is NEVER legal!
Did MrBeast actually commit a war crime? No, but he apparently did commit a crime that is considered a war crime, if done by the government.
I actually had a suspicion of the allegations ever since your deleted Slop content video, and even more suspicious when Rosanna Pansino inserted herself into the discussion and tried to portray herself as holier than thou over some (admittedly manipulated) challenge that got herself clowned by.
There’s something to be said from someone who copied his idol to now becoming one. I really do have a lot of respect for you man please keep staying neutral and honest.
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I hope this video blows up just so I can see all of the drama Slop youtubers suddenly have a change of heart on mrbeast and realize maybe he was innocent the whole time.
Well yeah I'm just meaning more innocent on Almost all of dog pack's claims and the slop youtubers are gonna say he's 100% innocent or 100% guilty they're spineless
Well mr beast isn’t innocent soggy cereal even admits that. We still have the coffeezilla investigation for crypto scams and the amazon squid game lawsuits.
Dude I had actually been waiting for your video because I know you don't leave things Grey I admit I did fall for the things that Dawson had said and did not do my own research about it, but I knew I'd get the MOST insights from you.
whys he trynna cover for mrbeast why cant mr beast do it himself? also delaware argument of yours is just "oh hes 19 he should have known better" even tho jimmy mom was involved asw
lol, I suspected as much from the start. I did watch western movies with my mum as a kid, and I used to ask her: "who is now the bad guy, since both shot each other in the back?" I just couldn't make out who the bad guy was, it simply did not make sense to me. 😂
Jake the Viking reminds me EXACTLY of a coke head I knew in my hometown, he might talk a good talk when he’s more sober than usual but then he gets 15 beers and a few lines I’m in and every redeeming quality goes out the window and he’s suddenly drunk driving to go smoke crack and cheat on his wife with an underage child
this is the same progression as Trump: you hate the guy so you try to find evidence of his wrongdoing but instead of anything really damning you find a bunch of ticky-tacky crap that you try to hem him up with half of which turns out to be bullshit but you put it out there trying to keep the story in the news while you gather the good shit, not realizing that even if you found it you already burned your believability
It’s funny because it is just like Trump but not the way you think (you ignore obvious crimes because they’re too obvious, which, again, is a literal form of propaganda)
@@unsyoutube9768actually that it happened at all does matter but thank you for informing me how little you care about the safety and wellbeing of children. It’s noted.
@@Lacewise3rd party people are making the mrbreast company improve the situation about their hiring processes anyway so the delaware thing really doesnt matter anymore
@@unsyoutube9768awww you’re so cute the way you think information literacy looks like mental illness because you don’t have any
I bet your empty brain is so peaceful for you. Anyway he specifically and deliberately muddied the issue about Delaware because he’s expecting the audience to not know how the American offender registry works. That makes the entire first ten minutes of the video unreliable and the rest of the video untrustworthy. He’s just trying to dilute the reality until you can’t see it anymore. Glad it worked for you though! Have a nice, peaceful live. (:
1:00:54 honestly. I agree with everything you said in this video EXCEPT for this part. Its not up to YOU wether or not a PURCHASED signed product being signed by a completely different person is fine or not. Thats a personal choice and only the buyer can decide how to feel about it. As a collector, I'd be absolutely LIVID if I found out that the signed ANYTHING that I got from my favorite anyone was signed by !a completely different person. It may not be illegal, but its still genuinely fucked up and super disingenuous. Amazing video though, fucking PHENOMENAL work finding all these recipts. Forged sigs are where i personally draw a hard line tho😅. Especially when its being done so blatantly. Shits practically shameless at that point.
Bro great vid but kinda wrong to not bring up the facts of Jake weddle of how they kept the lights on while he was trying to sleep that is serious psychological shit happening to him that might’ve gave him insomnia. and making him run a 3 hour marathon so bad that he got bad blisters on his feet sure he wasnt FORCED to do it but from what it sounds like he was extremely pressured into it cause of all the money they put in it and shit. I respect how much research and shit you did in this video, but I’m surprised you didn’t bring up those aspects of Jake Weddle story and it seems wrong to have that x on that board behind you, the fact that MrBeast felt inclined to reach out to him and give him the rest of money kinda proves that he felt bad about it and knew that it was a fucked situation
@@anyona19 didnt he say Jake was “ the wrong person for the challenge”? Implying that Jake was the problem cause he was going through shit not the actual challenge? If so Thats fucked to say to someone who was pretty much tortured that’s straight up victim blaming. The only problem i have with the vid is jake weddle part Don’t know how that situation could only be half true
@@anyona19 I would argue, that even tough Mr Beast did not commit a war crime, as he was not torturing a POW or torturing in the name of a government, the point still stands that torture is considered a war crime.
Mr Beast did in fact commit something that is in some circumstances considered to be a war crime.
Soggy crossed it of despite of this, whereas I would have left it with the question marks, as it is neither true nor false.
@@smashbattle6969”defending mr beast” criticism for Jake or Dogpack isn’t a defense for the opposition. Jesus yall are so sides cucked. Also soggy didn’t say what happened to Jake didn’t happen, it’s widely agreed upon that what happened to Jake was bad. It was likely cut out cause it’s not really relevant to the main topic of the video. That is debunking Dogpacks false claims.
I thought he put the question marks on the Jake weddle "paper" because he just can't really prove or disprove that so he won't talk about it, if he said something that downplayed the whole thing Soggy can be rightfully called out for that
@@smashbattle6969well i don’t think he did it for the sake of defending mr beast, he continuously says that this is just a criticism on dogpack and not a defense of mr beast. i do feel like he minimized jake weddle’s experience but i think it’s just cause he didn’t spend a lot of time on it
@@Silas276 i know crazy how this guy kinda downplayed this situation with weddle for the sack of defending mr beast I respect everything else he did in the video but it was pretty fucked up to downplay this horrible situation the poor guy went through
Sleep deprivation is torture, torture is a war crime. Just because someone joked about it being a war crime doesn't negate that it is actually considered a war crime. If they did deprive him of sleep, then they did torture him. Did he give consent to be deprived of sleep? Is torture legal if he did consent to it? My personal opinion is that torture is NEVER legal!
Did MrBeast actually commit a war crime? No, but he apparently did commit a crime that is considered a war crime, if done by the government.
At the point he was asked to run the marathon he was no longer able to give informed consent, because of the alleged psychological torture, as well as the lifechanging amount of money on the line for him.
@@LazySock : if so, probably much more. by the way, I do not trust anybody, unless I know them for longer, and I just don't know anybody at this point... yes that happens. It so happens to me. Anyway, believing anybody on the internet, who dares...
Dogpack sneaked a recording of Garrett's words and twisted them to make him look like a victim, using it against MrBeast. That low and scummy way to try to cancel someone.
Dogpack sneaked a recording of Garrett's words and twisted them to make him look like a victim, using it against MrBeast. That low and scummy way to try to cancel someone.
I watched this vid when Nick DeOrio covered it and this is probably one of the most complete dismantalings of someone I've ever seen. I really do commend your work. However I do have one major point of contention with the video and it was regarding Rosanna Pansino's involvement. She was not manipulated, she is just as complicit in the cultivation and spreading of MrBeast Derangement Syndrome ever since she was screwed over her coveted podium position in that stupid hide and seek video. It's quite evident that she knows what she's doing giving her famous crashout in that Nick Livestream.
@@Lacewise" it's beyond sketchy " 💀 What's more sketchy a guys randomly accusing someone of CP , Assault Child abuse etc without acknowledging that they are only accusation Or a guy actually providing proof ?
@@andromic2824nah this is a more advanced form of misinformation and the same crisis strategy corporations often use. If you can’t exonerate yourself, make the other guy look just as guilty. When the other side looks less credible (or more biased) people will hold you less accountable. A lot of the sources (for example how did he get audio from the COO?) are really strange or dubious. You can’t trust people because they’re telling you to equivocate everything. That’s a logical fallacy called “false equivalency”. And of course telling people “there’s no objective truth so obviously it’s somewhere in the middle” is an appeal to existing biases and a literal propaganda tactic.
I’m more shocked people are falling for it, it’s beyond sketchy.
He literally says to watch coffeezilla’s investigation at the end. The video was made to prove dogpacks incompetence while backing up reliable sources. Soggy still thinks mr beast isn’t a good person but by throwing false accusations can make it easier for the guy to defend himself and make any opposition look stupid.
to be honest I'm just conflicted what is true what is false, on one hand I want to be sure Jimmy isn't doing anything wrong like the FBI report of mistreatment on the beast games on the other hand if it turns out that many of the allegations were falsified, I will be really mad I was put in a wild chase of a case by a disgruntled worker messing with my trust. >:( I will say though Jimmy made a horrible decision working with logan Paul and KSI that is a horrible way to earn trust back with community
Because there's shit dogpack seriously needs to be fucking criticised for he has shown 0 issues with straight up lying about a ton of shit and is absurdly irresponsable. MrBeast may not be a good dude but he should be held acountable for the bad shit he actually did and it seems like a lot of what Dogpack said may be bullshit.
I don't really care. Dogpack is using drama to make coin. Mr Beast is taking money from his fans by running likely illegal competitions and some extremely sharp cryptopractice. Beasts maleficience occured first.
wow those dogpack mr beast video ideas are genuinely shocking. how deranged do you have to be to think baby battle royal, doing drugs or buying 1000 boobs are great for the algorithm or ad friendly? it sorta hints at a weird headspace. dawson is a strange guy!
I thought I believeed dogpack but I can no longer believe him because of the lies. Thanks for the truth soggy as I don’t like people who lie. Would appreciate how much effort soggy has put in for this video which has saved MrBeast’s channel.
Maybe you should have ate some of those moldy lunchly meals to fully emulate the true iDubbbz classic flavor with a little gross out meal time footage. Expose dogpack for sensationalizing accusations all you want but don’t imply Mr. Beast ranch is squeaky clean the guy literally uses peoples disabilities to farm views, manipulates his followers to steal their money via crypto and overpriced “food” products in the form of failed fast food, gross snacks meant for children and chocolate where one of the four ingredients is lies.
His number two was literally Ava Tyson and he’s in videos with images on the walls and discords containing illegal content of and involving minors. Guess they were all silly mistakes of an adolescent who “didn’t know any better”. What’s next his crypto wallet and tweets weren’t really his? He admits to being on calls with the biggest names in crypto scamming prior to pump and dumps he tweets looky eyes at before dumping his bags, multiple other creators not mentioned here came out with their own experiences and fun times at the Beast ranch, their PR team insinuates provable claims are lies from haters more times daily than arguing teenage girls before quietly retracting the statement once realizing it could be used to sue for slander and defamation; at least dogpack sticks by his salacious claims.
While you’re at it why not make a content cop pokimane so you prove her cookies aren’t overpriced it’s just a surcharge for the repacking of finely aged cookies the brand they were too gross tasting to sell under previously deemed “expired”.
Asking if someone read a description, did you watch the actual video of the event where they start shilling out potential prizes to encourage questionable marketing to little kids while faking the signatures on the merch they’re pushing live on stream? Maybe they should hire this guy for Mr. Beasts legal team since he clearly has enough time to scrutinize every minor detail of every expiration ever made looking for any chance to defend his beloved Jimmy.
The whole slip through the cracks thing you played twice was spot on, the redditor says they missed a communication which went to their spam folder which means it “slipped through the cracks” unnoticed by the user so beast team wouldn’t have to uphold their end and you can easily make an email you send get flagged as spam to later claim “oh we tried reaching out and never heard back”.
You blast him for thinking something is cp then immediately talk about how the OP of the image said it was so is it not obvious why he thought it was? The supplier who you called disgusting yourself literally said it was, you say he didn’t research or Google it but blast him for reverse image searching it to try to find the source.
You flip flop more than a pancake and contradict yourself more often than the guy you’re attacking for exposing people for being evil. You didn’t submit it for the same thing you claim dogpack of being guilty of, not being sure of the claim in the first place and fearing repercussions of wasting FBI resources. You accused someone of watching cp while showing a comment of them reporting it.. so they saw it posted and asked for it to be taken down and they’re evil? So you want to leave it up?
You tell him to take a clip of your vid out of his but 90% of your video are clips of his, they should crown you king of the contradiction.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl nice evidence, the first half of your comment doesn’t even make sense any what in house? CP? There was loli taped to a wall in a video which is legally considered CP now. Never said crypto meant everything else is true just asking if sloppy boy was “debunking” that easily provable offense next.
She literally had didn't have any of that in the house or server and him calling people involved with crypto doesn't mean he involved in everything they did.
The other things you mentioned either aren't true or don't actually matter.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl The video literally clarifies the allegations with context behind the scenes that Dogpack wouldn't dare to show. I don't know what you mean by 'being manipulative and lying.'
People believed DogPack404 since Mr.Beast has not responded in any way other than privately. Even saying a response would come would have helped his image tremendously.
This is the type of response he should’ve tried to make, but you stepped up and gave us a lot to think about.
If dogpack hade made the one video and moved on I wouldn’t have had as big of problem. But man he just keeps going. Like him and whatever the fuck her name is are the head of the Mr beast hate committee. Like move on. But it is good to see someone doing reasearch and disproving false allegations
5 head means you have a large forehead not that you’re smart and if it is implying you’re smart it’s doing so ironically so the name isn’t pretentious it’s self deprecating
As much as I have wild respect for this guy (dogpack) there is only so long you can milk one piece of drama for before people stop caring.... still i think there's still a couple videos left yet
Too bad, no one’s going to believe this and will say MrBeast paid off his ex-employee to help Soggy expose Dogpack. Or they’re just Glazers/Dickriders. Get the authorities, whose word I only trust. something like that
personally i think feastables is the worst creation ever concieved by mankind, but literally everything else you say in this video I 100000% agree with, words cannot express how much i and likely many other viewers of this channel and therefore this video thank you for making something decent and well informed that doesnt conform to the classic youtube slop cashgrab formula
yeah anyone who has been on youtube since the old drama days could immediately smell dogpack's delivery was weird and untrustworthy, solid video, that being said i would be a bit more wary about the obvious bias when interviewing friends of mr beast, or at least point out that there's a conflict of interest there
The second I heard dogpack begging to try and get his job back and for a "second chance" , I lost every bit of credibility I had for him. Jake was NEVER a credible source for me , crying about getting 10k a day for staying in a room is actually crazy , just goes to show how privileged the guy is.
lol "philanthropy" aka corporate tax write offs. Garrett with the "water cooler talk" aka blatantly caught. North Carolina is a one-party consent for recording audio. 3 strikes within 10 minutes.
See this is exactly why I see myself as an mis informed individual I mean I am regularly lied to I just don’t know when and how and I feel bad for believing in dogpack and trashing on mrbeast he does deserve some it but definitely not all of this
The extended content cop imitation was played out by the 3rd minute of the video. The first 3 were funny though. You just gotta know when you’ve killed a joke
To be honest, I had a feeling Dawson was doing this for his own agenda given the way he speak in his tweet of planning to expose Mrbeast and the brand itself for “alleged cp”.
I’d appreciate if you could post the full interviews somewhere, as they may provide some information. Not saying you’re a liar, but it’s also a fun way to get a one up on DogPack by making sure all clips are in context lol
As much as I appreciate this video, I really can't seem to like stucky's channel. It has become a new breeding ground for jimmy's defender. Saying this as someone who doesn't take dogpack seriously from the start due to a lack of receipts, stucky just really don't want to talk about mrbeast for some reason. Allying with massive forehead and the forest guy who are massive nft scammers plus launching a crappy product and turning a blind eye to anti-competitive behaviors from sick of it creator and suing coffeezilla guy really deserve a small callout like what soggycereal did. But nonetheless, good vid u got a lot more proof than doglie404 TLDR: Stucky really needs to speak on the beast a bit. It's not like he's entirely innocent. Shielding Ava, lunchly and shady nft stuff and scummy promotion tactics
Thank you so much for making this video. I don't like mr beast but I absolutely loath dogpack404 for spreading misinformation. There's already enough misinformation for the "internet" to blindly hate. We do not need more of it. We need more people like you in the world combating this misinformation. 👍
hey dry cereal, just letting you know the title is a little misleading since i clicked on it thinking it was just mrbeast but it it covers SO much more than that. amazing video!
1. Mrbeast still did do some bad things(dogpack was just wrong about most of it) 2. Ali koca didn’t use real evidence against dogpack which is why people were mad at him and he responded in the worst way possible and harassed a 14 year old kid. Soggy cereal still used real evidence to prove that dogpack was wrong about most of the stuff but Ali koca just insulted his appearance
honestly, even though feastables joined the anti child labor and slavery organization. ehhhh....i dont know if i would, too expensive. i could cut margines by just buying cocoa beans from poor managers who hire adults and kids for 5 cents in congo and whip/force them to work for 18 hours a day.. rather then paying anothe org to help and check. i guess its good for pr. call me evil, but... i really like money, and keeping shareholders
The thing is soggy is not a crypto researcher does not know about that stuff coffeezilla could handle that stuff soggy he will investigate other stuff because he did not have that much knowledge in that field
Hi Soggy, I made the Reddit post that you use at a few points throughout the video (Mack’s friend’s property listing, identifying some of the contestants in the boys vs girls challenge using their name tags, the screenshot of the tweet saying Mr beast was providing refunds for the failed rocket launch) and that was used in a few videos of Stucky’s, who I’ve exchanged some messages with.
Thank you so much for making this video and getting all this information out there. I really felt like Dawson’s motives were questionable right from the start. Just wondering why you chose to blur the property listing? I had already censored the address. The rest I thought would have been safe to use.
Anyway, great video and fantastic job. You’ve really put to shame every other drama YouTuber who covered this topic to death and ate everything Dawson said up without question by doing more journalistic work in one video than all of them combined. Subscribed.
Also the fact that you actually spoke with HR and show it in video as proof is so laughably pointless I now understand why those MrB employees went to speak with you in the first place. This is the best strategy the could have come up with. Not an official statement, but fight DP on "youtuber drama" level. It's genius. Like, man, you can't seriously make an intro as a "content cop" and then show "evidence" where an HR person claims what allegedly happened inside the company. Dude. HR. Have you never worked in a company before?
@@bookle5829 Where did I say DP is a trusty source? Do you actually believe this thing is as simple black-and-white/right and wrong? Did you actually watch the whole video and read the whole comment?
@@FatmanNotBatman890 I didnt say anything like that, I dont take sides. My point is that Soggy is trying to appear better in his debunk than DP, yet he does a lot of the same fallacies as DP.
what would be enough for you to believe there aren't horrible things happening at beast HQ why is dogpack more credible most of his source are faceless
This kind of sounds like dog pack just didn’t get the joke - there was a “whistleblower” at Dartmouth in 2012-ish who “exposed” some fraternity hazing debauchery, most famously swimming in a kidding pool of various… YouTube inappropriate things. What the poor sap didn’t realize was that pledge term is a giant mind-F. You might be swimming around in like salty water with hotdogs and other random crap in it, but when you’re really drunk and it’s dark you’ll fully believe it’s much worse. It sounds like that’s kinda what happened with dogpack, then he ran screaming to the administration “oh my god they’re making us swim around in crap!” Well, no, they didn’t, you’re just an idiot. Another classic is blindfolded “branding” with a cold piece of metal (branding IS a thing but not as part of pledge term, at least at Dartmouth; some people choose to do it as brothers).
No one said, Jimmy intentionally sought out a sex offender to hire. They're saying that he hired someone knowing that he was a sex offender in child. Rapist and even if he did not know at the time of hiring which Jake the viking who is Delaware's brother in-law, said Jimmy and his mom full well knew at the time of hiring, he definitely knew after he hired him and found out and still included him in videos on a channel whose main audience is young children. You're focusing on the wrong things here in using that as gotcha moments, when it doesn't debunk or devalue any of the arguments.
You're focusing on the fact that he didn't really get banned from Delaware. When what you should be focusing on is the fact that he pled guilty to raping an 11-year-old when he was 16 years old and is in fact a registered sex offender and did in fact get hired by Jimmy and his mom while they knew that information. So what's really important here?
do we really think that mr beast said ava chris would enjoy that anime bc it’s about an older guy that “saves” an underage girl from sex work or solely bc there is an underage sex worker in it?
Great video, himpleton is one of the most disgusting people I've met while on this platform in the last year. Painting narratives of people like he's some "knight in shining armor" when he's really just some guy who wants to get his piece of the clout pie. Along with dogpack and all the other's involved in this entire situation. People need to stop being so disingenuous if they want to gain respect and really set themselves apart from other people on the platform. Hope this blows up!
Taking in Everything: - Beast's team also did speculation so that was hypocritical - HR Girl seems very ingenuine and like she is hiding things - Safety is a good intention, but don’t understand their solution to fake it. Why not just not do it then or find another way around it where that action doesn’t have to be taken? - Dawson needed to do better research but the skeleton of his videos are still correct and points at the company being very shady - You probably took it too personally with Dawson and came off as a beast apologist till nearly the end(where you contributed just 4 minutes talking about him)
@@Fredfazbear1983 Not complaining about safety that’s a good intention. I’m complaining of why their solution is to fake it. I suppose that was phrased badly initially but that’s what I meant.
Way to take it out of context buddy. I’m just saying if they wanna be this genuine channel there are better ways to go around things than faking content.
The time has come, time for a full on video of “controlled opposition” making the crack addict realize that his lies would eventually catch up with him.
It’s a bad title and thumbnail. Soggy really needs to repackage this because currently there’s no clear reason to click on the video. It just looks like the one millionth typical Mr beast drama coverage video, not a debunked video with genuine proof.
The MrBeast scandal just goes to show that most people don’t even try to do do their own research, that people will believe anything. I know very well that I am not immune either.
At first I thought whatever dogpack said was true as it seemed legit but now I am sure no one is bothered about the allegations anymore everyone just needs views , thank soggy for making me re-evaluate myself and how easily I believe stuff
The fact that Dogpack 404’s first action after being fired he made the videos slandering mrbeast just showing how petty he is for not getting everything handed to him.
55:50 What proof did you provide? There's literally nothing shown in the video that would debunk DP's claim. Not the actors, not the storm, not the raft. 56:50 What proof is there that Jeremy T. Grant participated in the "24 people in the circle challenge"? His youtube channel mentions only a different challenge, that happened in 2022, with a different title. 1:08:40 You talk about the "No doesn't mean no" as if it was about sexual abuse and taken out of context, which was never the case? - the point people had issue is literally stated in the screenshot - instructing people on bending the rules of different companies. Also you keep referring to MrB's employees as a source and while DP is almost certainly a disgruntled employee, your sources are mostly MrB employees, and their evidence you show are not sufficient. If you wanna debunk a liar who's sources are "trust me bro", then why do you use the same tactic? You yourself are pointing out DP's manipulation tactics, yet you're, either intentionally or not, doing the same.
Jeremy T Grant has appeared as a contestant in multiple Mr Beast videos on his channel. The “no doesn’t mean no” thing, to my knowledge, doesn’t encourage any ‘bending of the rules’. As for using Mr Beast employees, who else should Soggy talk to? These people are a primary source. This is what all journalism should look like.
As a former follower after watching his video or this video, I do agree with what he says, and when you look over it, it kind of hard the back up with so much overwhelming evidence say MrBeast is the best guy with everything the crypto stuff and I did also he wasn’t everything through another guy posted several videos which you can see in this video Pegasus I’m gonna get into more details is watching this video. He has some more clear image and also was here to be exposed so I mostly trust him but he’s not lying. What am I saying? Most likely it all true with so much evidence I believe it’s true and how fast everyone count around MrBeast and hating him and a lot of my fear creators who I personally see as being very truthful backed up, shows how scum people can be.
Well this changes quite a lot. The Mr. Beast company still kinda sucks, but it was definitely exaggerated and twisted to push an agenda. That's a real shame on both sides. Both suck, but it's definitely more complicated than the black and white picture painted about this company i never really cared about
I kinda think you need to change the title to something like "Dogpack404 lied" because this isnt getting as many views as it should be compared to what you have found out.
Agreed. Uploaded 3 hours ago and has only just cracked 10k views. “Exposing DogPack’s lies” or something like that would be way better and reflect the content more accurately. Currently, there’s just no reason to click. It looks like any old drama coverage video.
today I absord your fibres and neutrients. that was a very informative segment on the Mr Beast Situation. Also I see what you did there with the title Content Cop - Jake Paul. wink wink
why are you bootlicking for mr beast in the majority of this video😅 if you genuinely think that everything dogpack has talked about is in bad faith then i’m disappointed
watch the damn video before acting like you are informed on it. he said MULTIPLE times that he isn’t sucking up to Mr Beast, he even points out that Beast HAS done many scummy things
You either did not watch the video, or you didnt pay attention. He has stated multiple times that this video is not trying to prove mrbeast is innocent but instead debunking false allegations about him.
30:53 Surprise Surprise, dog pack only read the synopsis and never watched the anime. Even if you never watched it, a simple google search can answer you question.....BRUH...
but do you really think mr beast said ava chris would enjoy the anime because an older guy “saves” an underage girl from sex work or solely bc there was an underage sex worker?
I know. Dawson even shows on screen in his first video that he’s comparing 2 servings of the largest size feastable to only 1 serving of the smallest size Hershey’s. 15 million people watched this and not one of them caught it.
i did think the last rosanna video was weird, AugustTheDuck made a good video about it, was taking a really serious subject and using it for content, makes sense now knowing its bs, people better lawyer up by the sound of it
So most of the allegations dogpack made up are false, however some things mrbeast does are shady. And i think it has been confirmed the crypto stuff is legit and very bad (havent watched the coffeezilla vid yet so dont quote me on that)
Unironically I was thinking of you and wondered when the next video will be out and then I checked YouTube and voilà. Love your videos and how you actually put in the effort to do proper investigations.
"they fake it for safety, so its not fake". Towards the end thats basically the argument he makes. The underwater challenge had to be fake for safety etc. How much are you getting paid?
@@Sillylittledragons Most people aren’t even mad there just asking why you trust dog pack an employee and not this other an employee. You should probably trust dogpack less sense he was fired
No sheet Sherlock... At least he knows what's going on inside the company, unlike your bf who claims himself to be a worker in the company while dissing from only three weeks
@@FatmanNotBatman890Yeah like I do believe some statements dogpack has made but some are just wild. He made like 10 good points other stuff was just yapping
Then who can you get reliable information from if not a primary source? You’ll believe everything one guy who worked there for 3 weeks says but not multiple employees who have been there for years?
@@chinyang1200 I think YouTube removed it for being “disrespectful” which I’m getting sick of tbh. Maybe it’s because I’m a new account as well but who knows
@@Rottenishere I think your previous comment got deleted for some reason but also like FB and a lot of social Media Stuff that person probably forgot we all know we can self Like our comment/ post
Hi Willy, I’m the guy who made the Reddit post if you recall. Would love to see you cover this topic again with all the new information that’s out, especially seeing as this video is not performing so well right now.
@@zonatedspore97acamasdude shut the fuck up, we get it your hate boner for Mr beast is taller than Mt Everest. You don’t have to make that incredibly obvious.
@@WillyMacShow ah yes... true journalism is blindly believing the people on beasts team even though they could and have lied like the 0:40 saying they're helping people.
In areas like 10:50 where you are SUPER aggressive it really reflects the same level of manipulation that dogpack used. While somewhat joking about it while still being ironically aggressive. I’d much prefer a video where you talked about the facts without this unneeded and excessive dialogue that kind of discredits you
The part about being recorded without consent only matters if the person that recorded the conversation lives in a 2-Party consent state. New York as an example is a 1-Party consent state (as far as I can tell Garrett is based in NY, based on his linkedIn)
Yea I feel like some parts weren’t 100% in good faith. Unfortunately I don’t have the motivation to fact check soggy, so I take it all with a grain of salt, but I’ve watched his videos before and I feel like I can trust his opinion to have some sort of valid evidence to stand on.
I'm lowkey realizing how silly I have been about this whole situation through old comment I have written. Goes to show how easy it is to be manipulated even for me who usually is able to see thru bs from YouTubers. Overall their isn't anyone in this situation who isn't at least somewhat guilty (excluding some of the employees).
I don't care Mr beast shouldn't be in charge of making content for children regardless. If there was any justice both your channels would be shut down for being soul-less robots of the machine
something has always seemed fishy about dog pack but SO many people fel for it including myself that just goes to show how quick people jump on things as long as the evidence seems legit without actually checking if it is legit mistakes happen and we learn from them so don't feel bad if you fell for it juts learn for next time
I haven't sat down for an hour+ YouTube video in a while, very well done. This was very informative even as someone who has never really watched MrBeast or anyone else involved.
Holy shit!! I knew Dogpack and Rosana were disingenuous, but I had no idea how bad it was. It's insane to watch how easily their narrative crumbled with a bit of research. This is why we tell everyone to be careful when making these kinds of allegations, but most people can't be bothered to do any critical thinking or research claims. Sadly, (unless this video blows up) most people won't see the debunked claims and continue running with the narrative that Mr Beast is some kind of evil, conniving sociopath. Thanks for making this video, it was a really good watch. It was entertaining and engaging the whole way through, unlike DogPack, whose videos feel like a slog to watch just to get to the allegations he's trying to make. Also he has the personality of a wet towel. Your videos are far more reminiscent of Content Cop than his ever could be.
@@Queef_Storm It's crazy to me that both of them perceived some kind of injustice one time and then dedicated themselves to being Jimmy's biggest haters, lmao. It all comes across as vengeful and petty.
@@EricSer hhaha you're actually mad. That was my goal. Keep crying, I love it. Notice I'm ratioing you too? And if you don't reply it's because you know I'm right
@@Queef_Storm u mad DogPack is right and you're defending who...? Soggy? jimmy? Either way bro grow up you literally don't have a perspective to give so just learn
@@EricSer the allegations he didnt address he either didnt find in the mountain of allegations (as stated near the beginning of the video) or he did not have enough proof/knowhow to cover those. He refers to other great video actually covering true allegations near the end of the video
So let me get this straight all of this is true but somehow no one on his side bothered but apparently Soggy which is unrelated (I assume) managed to do it?
@@zonatedspore97acamas if you are talking about the mrbeast team debunking the allegations, its been proven to work that not publicly responding can actually be way better for your reputation
@Zero-v9vv I think the biggest reason is he is sueing people but another reason i could see is he doesn't want to draw more attention or give validation to the accusation. I think if most people just don't respond to people's accusation it will go away with time. Maybe its just me but i haven't seen many people talking about this anymore so i assume this works.
Dude if you bothered to read using even 1 brain cell you know that another person using another person signature is literally fraud and counterfeit any of you bothered to read the lawsuit papers everything dog pack brought up as valid merit unlike you you’re debunking everything just to get a drama content video out of it when you really shouldn’t be especially since in order for this all not to be true a lawyer can’t be citing it in a lawsuit… but they are… yeah dude no offense please get some brain cells you still paid for free entries I know because I used the free Entry back when I watched MrBeast 😂 it’s honestly hilarious how many brain cells you don’t have to be making this video and purposely ignoring the facts and again they are facts because if they weren’t, they wouldn’t be allowed in court you bafoon or did you know that that’s not how a court works that the information both lawyers in both parties bring have to be correct to their knowledge by doing a correct investigation
1:04:08 once again, if any of what dog pack said was wrong, it would not be used in a separate court, case with separate individuals and was investigated to be correct by actual detectives hired by that lawyer you are simply a idiot buddy also Jimmy gave weddle 100% permission to post nothing but the truth and Jake has confirmed the dog pack is telling the truth and Jimmy has not denied it as false because it is coming from Jake simple context clues dog pack is telling the truth because once again, Jake can tell the truth because of Jimmy’s permission
But you didn’t bother investigating that much so does it really matter no all that matters is the next time you make a video like this? I will have a community noted because you didn’t do any research and your interview is with a guy who literally is still getting paid off by MrBeast to make him look good even if it’s not true so good interview very very pointless since you didn’t even do any type of correct research
No, since I’ve basically tortured your entire reputation by proving you didn’t even read anything to do investigations on and you interviewed somebody who works for MrBeast currently to try to talk negative about MrBeast. When you know for a fact, you can’t also won’t because again he’s on MrBeast payroll i’m gonna give you this one warning if you continue to claim to be an investigative reporter or just any type of news outlet and conduct interviews in this manner or try to make videos like this again I will personally see you in court and I will make you look like the biggest clown in history
He'll probably use the excuse that the shredder was CGI in the shot he was showing when he said it, which is clearly true but he was clearly intentionally being misleading by not specifying that he meant in that specific shot.
I'm well over halfway through the video, and it's clear your intention for this part at least was simply to defend Beast, and honestly you don't do it very well.
@@ptolemyhenson6838 Did you not see the end. He said the crypto stuff was sus, and said to go check Coffeezzillas video. He didn’t cover that because he doesn’t know much about crypto.
it was to call out some of dogpac lies. Even i watched the videos i knew dogpac lied about it. I was not about to research everything but soggy did for me
I love the intro and all the Content Cop and iDubbbz references and impersonations you managed to put into the video. So faithful to the original, yet so soggy, I love it! Great work!
Ok like, i just have oooone question, does MrBeast fake charity? Because like, his challenge, his content, his money. And about his snacks/foods, he aint in the production chain, but alr thats partially his part. Just please tell me, none of his charity was fake... Because if they are fake... Oh man...
@@leontriestoart You choose to reply to me, I'm not going into your comment chain, and replying to you. Enjoy being a follower, going with what the majority say.
@@corystarkiller no one asked for your opinion either, yet here we are. This is a reply section. People go here to see other people say stuff. Get used to it.
@@ver_nick Jimmy has no say in what the company finds or how they conduct their investigation. The only say he has is whether he chooses to publicize their findings
@@ver_nick look up the company hired. Jimmy has no say in what info they get or the investigative process. The only say Jimmy has is in whether their findings are published. That's how you can spot corrupt companies. If they don't publish their findings, it's usually spotty.
@@leontriestoart "third party" lmao I'm dying Jimmy is like "we paid the 'third party' to investigate ourselves and gave them only the information we wanted to give and they found us innocent, wow, no way"
@@corystarkiller I have been against dogpack from the start, I made quite a few community posts about it a wille ago. But yes i think it was stupid for so many people to ride on the hate train
@@leontriestoartIs no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables? I thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars?
>dogpack lies and manipulates people, gets innocent people harrassed > Mr beast stays quiet while third party investigates him >Internet slowly realizes dogpack is a wierdo
@@IamEscBoy oh, you misunderstand, I just said I'm not gonna care, but people dealing with this should care though. Basically, I'm dropping this drama. Besides, at this point both of them aren't good people...
@@IamEscBoyIs no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables? I thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars????
@@YonyGut1MoviesandVideogames I dont think I replied to each comment you made. You are dumb and your comments dont make sense so there is no way I can respond to each of them. I just like making fun of edgelords. (youre one of them)
@@YonyGut1MoviesandVideogames you are so desperate lmao. Why do you want to stand out so much? 15 comments when you don't even want to watch the whole vid?
@@YonyGut1MoviesandVideogames He didn't delete it cause of any of the mrbeast stuff. It was for a totally different reason. He kinda just mentioned that he was looking into dogpack and saying that he was a master manipulator. Idk how you get to that conclusion from that I'ma be honest.
I'm upset with Dogpack because he made it harder to show legitimate criticism of Mr. Beast. You could easily and truthfully show how messed up the morals of Mr. Beast are, with his glorification of capitalistic greed, appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast, and involvement with Lunchly + many more things. But after Dogpack's whole thing, when I say that I don't like Mr. Beast or I hear valid criticism, it's lumped in with Dogpack's false accusations.
if you watched the video you would see that soggy litterally said that the logan paul and ksi colab was cringe hes not defending anyone hes just debunking the lies of dogpack404
I gen like watching morepegasus because I do not wish to waste time searching or watching too many videos of different YouTubers, but if DogPack is also a fraud then I don't know who to believe anymore 😭 At the end of the day I did waste my time following this huge drama, I feel like there's no point to watch anything about it anymore until Mrbeast makes an actual video about it which would be never.
Most of this stuff was confirmed, dogpack definitely did lie about a lot of stuff, so try look at the other more factual stuff, people have already pointed out the coffeezilla video. Dogpack was just spreading mostly lies but it took us a while to find that out on the other hand, those videos launched investigations into jimmy which turned up actual evidence. To keep rambling, upper echilon literally said some of what dogpack said was fake, like how the Delaware name was fake but then he listed what was real. We don’t need a 90 minute about how everything was fake, 9 minutes of videos already made have proved what you’re talking about.
soggy's not really defending mr. beast though, he's just providing nuance to a complex situation. you don't have to be so polarized, cuz two things can be true at the same time
@@zonatedspore97acamas Penguinz0 collabed with Mr. Beast before, is Penguinz0 also bad? What about all the actors who were in Collene Balladger's (I don't know and don't respect her enough to learn how to properly spell her name so your going to have to live with that spelling) show before she was exposed as a PDF file, are they bad? Are criminals families bad because they are related to criminals even though they haven't actually commit any crimes themselves? How far are we going to go?
@@eugenekrabs141also is no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables? I thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars?
I gave up on the drams cause I'm to lazy to watch drama and now this is out and so yh I'm confused just going to wait for a response from Mr beast or forget cause it doesn't affect me
@@zonatedspore97acamas but dogpack was actively being malicious in some of these lies, hell we even have a motive cuz bro was fired and begged to get it back. there are no sanits in the drama, only sinners.
om god i love your content please respond i told all. y friends about you [and now you have some more subscribers]it would been the world if you would respond.
I'm starting to think dogpack404 might not even be his real name
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@@D_LGNDimagine if his last name was French 😂
0 likes@@NoelSteno does it come with gummy bears?
0 likesmaybe snackpack404 😊😊
0 likesIt’s scatter cat 505
0 likesI think this deserves a show
0 likes@@muhtaqiyyan2004no it’s actually Dogsack404
0 likesLet’s not get crazy now, that’s a bit far
0 likesNo way.. 😨
0 likesMaybe….just maybe.
0 likesSame bro. What next, is dogpack404 not actually a dog?!
1 like@@muhtaqiyyan2004 What a betrayal
0 likesYeah like I think it's something like Dawson
0 likesNo….
0 likesSurely he wouldn’t go that far
1 like@@space7563 Young Mick Jagger might be on to something.
0 likes🤣🤣 best comment today
0 likesOk pal, let’s not get hasty here
0 likesFraudpack404 is his real name
3 likesactually hillarious
0 likesLIAR
0 likesImagine if his real name was something weird like Dawson lol
6 likesI'm starting to think that we're stealing comments!
2 likesBahahahha 😂
1 like@@DGM321 nah it’s would be CatStash[Error]
6 likeswhat if his real name is catgroup[ERROR]
15 likeshis real name is edp404
17 likesThis guy might be onto something....
25 likesUh huh....
4 likesIt couldn't be
6 likesHis real name is actually pogdack040
150 likesjust maybe
26 likesNow that's a good idea
72 likesI think Moistcritikal said it best, just cause a person got exposed, doesn't mean that the exposer is actually a hero or a good guy that isn't doing it for their own selfish gains. A scumbag can exposed another scumbag. Doesn't make them any less of a scumbag.
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YES I have always thought it’s weird people on the internet put people on pedestals first they did it with mr beast and then when he was revealed to be not a perfect human being and then they put dog pack on the pedestal learning nothing from the mr beast problem we need to release that the people on the internet are human beings and thus will not be perfect constantly and will do things that we deem wrong and write also just because someone dose something wrong doesn’t make them and instantly bad person it makes them a human who makes mistakes unless there like a pdf file or murderer or something like that then there bad people. Have a good day everyone.
0 likesRealest shit I’ve ever read
0 likeslol so true
0 likes@@lao-ce8982 I mean his scumbaggedness was the fact that their case was mostly false lol
0 likesyeah though the allegations being mostly false needs to be covered, especially when the real ones are way less cutthroat than dogpack made them seem by using so much lying
0 likesBut who's more of a scumbag
0 likes@@ThatPianoNoobthats literally what it means
0 likes@@artoriapendragon3234 I would mainly see the Mr.Beast thing be taken out after in the same video he says he doesn't wanna be labeled as a Mr.Beast glazier.
0 likesAlso, While its fine to think they may be paid, its weird for a paid person to link to another video that would possibly & directly discredit Mr.Beast as an angel of people.
(also this video probably was made BEFORE the coffeezilla video came out, then it came out while in post so it was edited to say "yea its out now go watch it". shit takes time so im willing to give that a pass 🤷
@@innitalii changing one’s mind in reaction to learning new information is perfectly normal and frankly far healthier than being dogmatic
0 likesBecause a greedy scumbag is obviously just as bad as the guy who knowingly hired a sex offender, twice. Just as the youtube ultimate nice guy said!
0 likes@@innitalii wahhh!!! other people can actually change their opinion overtime!!! wahhhhhh!!! everyone should've been a close minded idiot like me instead
1 likeBy that logic this guy is a scumbag and i shouldn't watch his content...cheers!
0 likesnow wait until soggy cereal is exposed to be a scumbag then the guy who exposed him is exposed and so on
0 likesinsane this even needs to be said
0 likesblackbeard quill
0 likesI don’t think Jimmy is a scumbag. I think Jimmy is just paying for growing too fast and he played fast and loose with stuff. I like Dawson who literally lied and manipulated info lol.
0 likes@@Handles_AreStupid kris is still a degen based on old tweets and the old drawings he bought, that's a proven fact. dogpack didn't make kris look bad, he did it to himself
0 likesSo soggy cereal is a scumbag?
0 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
0 likes@@lao-ce8982 eh psychology
1 like@@innitalii you don't know that
1 likeOkay but give me an example of how dogpack is a scumbag. What did he do?
0 likes@@Hellboy_2109 brother in Christ, the fuck did you just type 💀 he doesn't cancel them either lol. Infact, the majority of the time, He even says don't go and attack the person he's talking about. Idk what you're talking about. It seems like you're just going off of what you see on stuff like Twitter and just take it as fact. If what I think what you're talking about is what you're talking about, he didn't leave the platform. He just said he was leaving a podcast. If you're not talking about that, as far as I'm aware, he hasn't left the platform because he was hated on. I genuinely think you're just mis-informed. He just likes to talk about shit and post his opinions to the Internet. Nothing special, but also nothing world ending.
0 likesCharlie is such a lazy fence-riding unauthentic bore of a 'creator'.
0 likesso what if its a scumbag exposing a scumbag that exposed another scumbag?
0 likes@@NuggetMuncher20 I did not know Critikal at first. But he called out and cancelled an ytber I watched. He got so hated on he left the platform. Years after videos been popping up rectifying him and saying Critikal made with the little evidence he had false assumptions and totally ruined the dudes career. He isnt thorough and just calls people out and cancels people who dont deserve it hes one of the can cers of yt
1 like@@Hellboy_2109 what did bro even do
0 likesMoistcritikal being the most scumbag of them all lmao
0 likes@@darklegionnaire8304 I have never thought he had a deep voice infact he have a "normal" voice.
0 likes@@griefingg0lem685 How do you know when everything you think is bad about Mr. Beast is from Dogpack? Get my point? You can't keep saying both sides suck when the person who accused the other side is being exposed as a liar. Almost all of his accusations weren't backed up by real evidence, I realized this right after watching DP's first video. The only substantial criticisms against Mr Beast weren't even that bad, everything else is nothing but rumor and random anonymous reports.
0 likesJust admit it, everyone got duped like the little impressionable people you are, and now you don't want want to be seen as being wrong or easily manipulated.
Bruh this whole comment section is actually insufferable 😭
0 likesI.e.: Dream and the Minecraft speedrun community (for those not in the know, he was instrumental in exposing some of the most obscure speedruns cheating and was in turn caught in probably THE biggest speedrun cheating scandal. That is beside his own behaviour.)
0 likesEveryone forgets the secret 3rd option: "Everyone Here Sucks"
1 likeI mean it wasn't that selfish since his videos weren't monetized.
0 likesThis isn't about that, this is about whether or not the accusations they're making is true. Christ you people are literally so dumb, unable to admit you got manipulated by a disgruntled, vindictive ex-employee. And you people have the nerve to try and tell me about politics and how we should run the country, GTFO of here lol.
1 likeSo thats why Moist wasnt talking about Lunchly and all MrBeast related drama??
0 likes@@leijten yeah. soggy could be a terrible guy. we have no idea
1 likeTrue. I was skeptic of him from the start. But there are some factors that make me think mr beast also isn’t all that innocent
1 like@@innitalii omg, imagine changing your opinion based of new evidence. Crazy.
1 likeIt just doesn't make much sense when you consider that he is making a total of 0 dollars off his videos. Like, why would you spend countless hours making these claims and getting yourselves into many many lawsuits when there is no benefit for you.
0 likesSomeone using moistcritikal as an appeal to authority to say something as basic as that is actually comical
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOne I think that's the point OP was trying to make. A shitty person calling out another shitty person doesn't make either person less shitty. Two wrongs don't make a right, especially when neither side was right to begin with.
0 likesKinda pissed about it. man,
0 likesespeceaillly the clip jobs that shit is pretty pathetic. WTF there is so very much out there to properly cover.
It would have still been pretty ground breaking without all the bullshit clips. dissapointed much.
Guess I can say at the very least we have legitimate people like coffeezilla actually doing proper work. I just don't understand this shit. They had plenty to work with. why Do dumb shit.
still waiting for Charlie to post about MrBeast drama (he won't)
1 likeok but just because a scum bag did the exposing that doesn't mean mr beast is innocent
2 likesYeah. Best real life example is hitler vs Stalin. Neither was good. Both were pretty bad
1 likecough tyler olivera cough
0 likesIm trusting nobody no more everyone is evil
0 likesIn the language of moist, he tongue punched Mr Beasts dirt star, he "quit drama" because he doesn't want to burn connections with pieces of shit like him. Fuck critikal dogpack and mrbeast.
1 likeHe said that about the person who exposed EDP who was a pretty awful person as well
3 likesAh yes, you take the word of a guy who says kids can become transgender aliens
0 likes@@artoriapendragon3234 Pretty much the internet AND real life
0 likesReally? Which video? I'm sure as heck that he didn't talk about nor want any involvement in the MrBeast drama.
0 likes@@ThatPianoNoob who told you anyone here is trying or exonerate MrBeast? Some things being true doesn’t mean false things shouldn’t be disproven. Multiple people can be bad
0 likes@@Grimplays6969 why soggy?
0 likesThe point is that it doesn't matter if DogPack is good or not lol. He's not the golden boy of YouTube. This is about the biggest YouTuber ever and his virtue signaling
0 likesWatch the whole video. Almost everything he said was false. Dogpack was 100% the bag guy, and in trying to make kris look bad, he downloaded what he thought was CP to then put in a thumbnail tester to see algorithmic predictions before spreading it to over 1.5million people. Dogpack is definitely a creep, possibly more so than kris if he thought that was even remotely okay to do (obviously, I don't defend kris at all, but dogpack did what kris did, but 1.5million times....).
3 likesI hate it when an asshole is revealed to be such by a dick. It's a less toxic version of Kiwifarms
0 likes@@tgtgamer101imo moist didn't say anything wrong on transitioning but i get your point
1 like@@Grimplays6969 And how is soggy the scumbag and not rosana?
0 likesIt's like when EDP exposed chris tyson a few years back
1 like@@townfuneral4564 I’m not saying he’s a saint, I can criticize someone without in the same breath stating what 99.9% of the comments are saying that the other side is bad.
1 likesure, that doesnt make mr beast a saint either way
0 likes@@innitalii right before dogpack you were not saying any of this stop switching up
2 likesi dont like mrbeast either so you cant use that against me
i didnt like dogpack before this video either
They think this is elementary school and that snitching on another kid will earn you brownie points with the teacher
0 likesW
0 likesOh odd just like how parroting the same surface level opinions 24/7 doesn’t make you a good youtuber either
0 likesBut at the end of it the scumpack404 didn't really prove that Mr beast is a scumbag. Even caffezilla in his crypto scam investigations couldn't prove that Mr beast himself did all those shady moves, so jimmy Mr beast is still technically innocent, cus it all needs more fundamental proofs. Lunchly mold was bad but that could've also been the factory's mistake that makes them, just like with Mr beast burger.
0 likes@@innitalii you were on the same bandwagon brobro
0 likesnow were gonna get like a new vid from someone else in about 2 months, cloud chasing , i never heard of this guy and i never heard of dogpack :0 , honestly i look at mister breast as a scamming rat who only cares about money, i look at dogpack as a vengeful person who wants to see misterbreast exposed because he does seem to have biased opinions against him + he probably believes all the stuff he says, if the logic is right then so should this guy, i wonder what biased stuff he has against any of em , knowing mister breast commented on his video i wouldnt be surprised if this is the 1dollar detective he bought.
5 likesYeah they’re all fake.
0 likes"Moistcritikal" guy who became so lazy just reacting and commenting dumb shits most of the time just another channel full of dumb shits nothing useful to see or hear
0 likes@@Blud6966
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Exactly, Beast is still a scumbag.
0 likesEven tho some things seem to have been untrue.
Too much is still true,
Beast has to go down.
Truer words were never spoken
0 likesthis even applies to the maker of this vid
0 likesnot saying he is a scumbag just that he just as much could be as anybody else
clock that tea
0 likesAnother good take from moistcritikal
0 likesmoistcritical is peder himself
0 likes@@innitaliiExcuse me, did you read a comment from THIS PERSON? Or did you read another youtube comment and assume all youtube commenters are a hivemind who must share all opinions or every single one of them is a flip flopped or a hypocrite?
0 likes@@darklegionnaire8304 Sounds like u just made shit up. Y tf would he fake his voice for views?
2 likesExcept in the EDP situation, the exposer wasnt blatantly lying about the issue at hand, unlike Dogpack
1 like@@muhammadfaridizzuddin charlie and jimmy are youtube rich, who cares what they say, they are not trustworthy pepe
1 like@@muhammadfaridizzuddin Charlie is effing rich of course he said something like that, I'm sorry, but talking about this kid in this way is so dumb, if we're gonna live in an idiotic capitalist society like this but then also trying to erase all responsibility from the people who own the most wealth well, we are screwed. Who cares what dog pack did or didn't do unless he actually literally faked this whole thing, surprise no he didn't, Jimmy sucks, Charlie kinda sucks, rich people who pretend to be socially responsible suck
0 likesJust because DogPack isn't a picture perfect guy doesn't mean we should discredit everything he said, same goes for Mr. Beast. Just watch from the sidelines and wait for the truth to rear its head.
3 likesHoly shit so real
0 likes@@Blud6966fr
0 likes…
@@NotSponsoredByEAno that's just you
0 likes@@tgtgamer101 he's not wrong. he himself said he was not there to debate and wasn't prepared nor aware of sneako streaming
1 like@@leijten well yeah.. I think the best way I can describe it is like this. Dogpack bought a shotgun and brought it to go shoot people, but Jimmy loaded the bullets and signed his name on them. Dogpack then shot all of Jimmy's good deeds which wouldn't have been shot if Jimmy hadn't made, signed and given him those bullets. Its like watching Elon Musk vs Jeff Bezos, nobody knows who they want to win less.. but thanks to Dogpack at least, we are no longer unaware of Jimmy's bad practices, so we can pay attention.. which deserves another analogy.. its like sending Sephiroth to destroy the guy who merged his daughter with a dog in Full Metal Alchemist- are either of them good? No.. but thank god Sephiroth destroyed him anyways.
0 likesa good response to this vid overall. This is why critical thinking is important. For all we know, Cereal and everyone he's interviewed are being paid or intimidated into spewing all of this. I don't see Coffeezilla's attention to detail, research or proof here. 1 dollar detective work in the end is simply just 1 dollar detective work. Ironic that this is coming out immediately after Coffeezilla's video.. makes me sus overall. And jimmy REPLYING TO THIS VIDEO!? and nothing else? Even more sus. I know Dogpack's just a clout seeker, so is Weddle- but Oompaville has the better take on this whole debacle. Everyone is bad here, there are no good people here.
5 likesI still want Charlie to make a video on this
0 likesDon't take anything moist says as truth
1 likeand thats not the point
2 likescharlie is just as bad
5 likes@@SuperFilmregisseurno he hasn’t said anything about it that quote was referring to the people who exposed EDP
1 like@@triman7039that’s actually what the quote was referring to
1 likeCritikal is a clown
5 likesits scumbags all the way down
0 likesYea I don't see how this exonerates Mr beast.. it just throws dog pack onto the pile
4 likesJust like Moistcritikal himself. Ironic.
5 likesi hope this comment be at the top cuz common sense ain't so common
0 likesdogpack could have his own agendas for taking down mrbeast, but that still doesn't disprove the fact that mrbeast HAS done shady and illegal things
23 likestbh moist is wrong on some things (most notably that whole chat with sneako about transitioning). But honestly he may be in the right here this time
0 likesBut is there any proof he is?
0 likesWe deal with big turd first, then smaller one
1 likeOr maybe the guy exposing Mr beast was making a bunch of unsubstantiated allegation and your dumbass ate it up.
0 likesHahah he accused mr beast of FCC allegations which would take ONE fucking google search to debunk. Yall some morons.
I don't like moistcritical but thats straight up the truth.
1 likeExactly I was skeptical of dogpack after he accused the CEO of being an abuser. Don't trust this guy either
0 likesSame thing could be said about the EDP situation back in 2021. Alex Rosen (person who exposed EDP) is a racist man who doesn't even work with the police to catch predators (which basically means EDP or any other pdf could easily make up an excuse and get away from drama) and had actual minors serving as his decoys at one point. Alex is in the wrong but that doesn't mean EDP is in the right either.
12 likesThat’s also why penguinz0 is also secretly a scumbag. Takes one to know one.
0 likes@samninjago8216 I thought he was right at first but then the reactions dogpack404 and Rosina Pansino in that collab rosina when should alleged cp she said owwwwww like it was a cute baby picture while reacting to Ava's text message
6 likes@@muhammadfaridizzuddin the only scumbags are Ksi Logan beast and soggy.
3 likesI never liked dogpack404 glad I was right
9 likesI have to agree well said p
0 likes(I know it's obvious but I'll say it anyway)I agree COMPLETELY! And soggy cereal proved that greatly in this video
4 likesvery nicely said
2 likesYeah, but in the eye of the audience, if the exposer turns out to be a scumbag, their case suddenly will loose momentum and believability, even though they may said the truth.
86 likes@darklegionnaire8304 lmao his deep voice is insufferable. He is too. And now that voice was an act all along as well? 😂😂🤣
15 likeslet me blow all your minds. moistcritikal does a voice. his deep voice is an act. go look for luka magnotta same voice.
8 likesso that means the exposer exposing the exposer can be trash as well?!?! :O
54 likes@@muhammadfaridizzuddin did Moist say this about Dogpack? Lmao that about the only thing he said about it 🤣
21 likesthat was the EDP video, one of the only videos I have watched
76 likesRight so before this video you were not saying any of this stop switching up
72 likesExactly
21 likesRealest sh i've read fr
223 likes"Dogpack 404 just destroyed his career."
5999 likes"Dogpack 404 Is finished.."
"Dogpack 404 situation just got worse"
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Soggy got paid by Beast. painfully obvious. Mrbeast is a soulless
0 likesMore pegasus becomes more hated
0 likesYou're literally a nobody bro chill 👍👍👍
0 likesLMAO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT YOURSELF? 😂🤡🤡🤡 look at your Roblox kiddy shit and cheesy ass thumbnails, absolute clown
0 likeslol
0 likeswith every thumbnail either saying "it's over" or "finally done" or something like that with 2 pictures of the guy in front of a grey background
0 likesI should make a joke video title about how dogpack404 is "Over" and "Done with"
0 likesCan't wait for morepegasus to have that in the tital.
0 likes@@jonathan9044 i can certainly appreciate your empathetic and optimistic views on this. but ive always experienced that content creators like these are insecure jerks. which, looking at the thread, checks out.
1 like@@icewings_intotheclouds It's mostly a joke with no intention of causing harm that wasn't meant to be taken seriously, most people joke about things they are guilty of, like an alcoholic making a joke about people drinking a lot, it's not meant to harm people, but to have fun, he probably didn't have any ill intent but just wanted have a good laugh
0 likes@icewings_intotheclouds you’ve earned my respect 🫡
0 likesidk who u are but you have earned my respect 🫡
0 likes@coleplaysthis ain’t no way ur getting absolutely cooked right now 😭😭😭
0 likes@jonathan9044 that's not even the point. the point is that he's making fun of generic youtube titles when he's intensely uncreative himself
0 likes@@CJGJprodsI hate that guy. Way to many videos with very similar thumbnail titles.
0 likes@@icewings_intothecloudsexplain what makes it right in this instance, no one is above the anything Most people don't make the same art others do, art is the expression of creative skill and imagination, and some people don't really make art, I don't know if content creation in general can be considered as art(though some videos do) but some media is made for fun or as mentioned before for a living, and some people may like different types of art but that doesn't mean that they don't like art in general, many types exist and being forced to stick to just one and be judged if you don't isn't fair
0 likes@jonathan9044 but it's kinda right in this instance. cole doesn't care about art at all. i do.
0 likes@@icewings_intotheclouds First of all, when was I projecting, second of all, if someone says "I actually make art" to you, that's obviously going to come off the wrong way, if your going to criticized someone, make sure you don't offend them by belittling them, because if so, don't expect them not to have a problem with that
0 likes@jonathan9044 whole buncha projection going on here. apart from that, I didnt just randomly place my own art above his, he placed his art above mine and i was merely defending myself. also my art is probably the thing im the least insecure about, i think i make some incredible music.
0 likes@@icewings_intotheclouds This still doesn't give you the right that your content is inherently better because you "care about your art more" and "artistic intention" which is just a pretentious and conceited thing to say, you don't know the reasons he started YouTube, most people use YouTube as a mean to get popular doing the things you love, for some people, they get money off of this, and it doesn't mean they don't like what they do, otherwise most of them wouldn't look that excited for even do content creation, you don't know how much he liked doing Roblox videos or not but assume it's slop none the less, even if I don't watch that many Roblox or gameplay content that much, judging people's work so you can put yours above others because you think it's better is just place arrogance sounds like your just insecure about your own work like it can't stand on itself and needs to be compared for validation
0 likes@@coleplaysthis oh hell nah we got ColePlaysThis combing people with emojis before GTA VI so AYO COLE IF YOU DONT GET YO BRO CAME FROM THE EMOJI MOVIE, YOU TRIED TO FINNALLY TOUCH GRASS BUT YOU INSTANTLY FLOPPED ON THE GROUND CUZ YOU IS MORE STRECHIER THAN MONKEY D. LUFFY, YOU RAN OUT OF IDEAS FOR VIDEOS SO YOU RESORTED TO SHAKING YOUR B00ty, CUZ NAH YO AHH BETTER QUIT YT WITH YO "LIiiIIIKKKkkkKKeeEEeEeE AAaaanNNddd SSuubbbSSCccrIIiiBBeee" aint no way you actually posting these type of videos without someone forcing you with a bribe, homeboy lookin like he came straight from the shawnee tribe so shut yo goofy ahh up aint no one wanna hear from you, you a person with 400k subs and you beefing with kids online thats crazzyyyy
0 likesDogpack 404 situation is crazy
0 likesDogpack situation is insane
Dogpack 404 drama is crazy
“Fraudpack 404 just ended his career”
0 likes@@coleplaysthis bro u make drama videos for 2-3k viewers why r u typing
2 likes@coleplaysthis i dont expect someone like you to understand it. as I said, we have fundamentally different goals when it comes to the things we put out. but i also know that you think you can be condescending towards me because u have more subscribers. i for one think i can be condescending towards you because you're a hypocrite with no honour and your content is soulless, yet you think you're capable of arguing back right now. you are a very uninteresting person. the main difference between you and me regarding art is the following: once you stop making content because of burnout or the algorithm just randomly decides it doesn't like you anymore, which lets be real, one of the two will happen, people will stop watching you. people don't care about you as a person or an artist. people only subscribe to you because you give them extremely easily digestible content with no layers or merit. you will only be remembered as "another slop creator wanting views to boost his ego". i might be less popular than you by numbers, but i create art i can be proud of, art that I'm respected for by others and myself.
0 likes@calling whatever the hell you make “music” is an insult to the entire music industry I’d rather watch the entire talk tuah podcast than listen to that 💀😭
1 like@@coleplaysthis shut up
0 likesDogpack 404 gets sued
0 likesDogpack 404 situation is crazy
0 likesHaha Pegasus will never!
1 likeIt’s over
0 likesIt’s done
Finally over
Finally done
He’s over
He’s done
@@LuluSuperDelulu people like you will call everything they don't understand "yapping". only because you don't see the nuances in what im saying, doesn't mean they're not there.
1 like"Its over" "It's Finished" "He's finished"
0 likes@@icewings_intothecloudsyap yap yap
0 likes"The REAL Truth..." and what about the false truth? And is it really really REAL? Or maybe just a little bit reAL?
0 likesI thought the Truth is always real...guess i dont know how english works.
oh boy not again
0 likes@@coleplaysthisimagine making fun about something and then doing the exact same😭🙏
0 likesWrong change dog pack with soggy cereal and you’ll be right.
0 likes“The Dogpack 404 Situation is crazy”
0 likes@@CJGJprods He’s already a hypocrite. His old videos defended MrBeast until the fake allegations came out
0 likes@@pokemonfan8020 maybe read the thread first
1 like@@icewings_intothecloudsbro what what does your "art" have to do with this
0 likesbuddy are you making a ragebait comment cuz ur literally doing the same content
0 likeshypocrite look at your content
0 likes@@CJGJprods Pegasus: WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN
0 likes@@coleplaysthis I create music with all my heart. you're in for the bag. i dont have an issue with u doing your thing. but to then come on here and act like you're on our side? you're part of YouTube's downfall, whether u like it or not. don't act like you're one to talk. my content is inherently not meant to be consumed by everyone, because i care about art and a lot of people dont understand art. you want to maximise view counts and watch time and it's very much all you care about. no artistic intentions, one dimensional slop. at least play the card youre dealt and stop being in denial.
6 likes@@icewings_intothecloudsyeah this guy does the exact thing he’s making fun of
4 likes@@icewings_intotheclouds honestly just be quiet
2 likes@@icewings_intotheclouds you sound sped asf
0 likes@@CJGJprods god i hate that clickbaiting bias loser
1 likeLiePack404 is finished...
2 likes@ is the “Art” in the room with us rn? Bc all o see on your page is “FREAKFEST 2024” ur channel on some Diddy shit I don’t wanna hear none of it
8 likes@@coleplaysthis the "no u" doesn't work bc i actually make art. stop letting yourself get bullied by a teen online.
3 likes2 months later, soggy cereal situation is unbelievable ! Soggy cereal have been exposed ! Soggy cereal is finished ! Soggy cereal is over ! And the cycle continues
15 likes@@icewings_intotheclouds you're one to talk
16 likes"IT'S DONE"
67 likes"IT'S OVER"
"IT'S REALLY DONE"
"IT'S SO OVER"
YOU dont get to make fun of youtubers
12 likesDogPack 404 is done for..
35 likesi can already see those titles lol
51 likesThis is comedy gold
43 likesMorePegasus exposes himself : MorePegasus Just Ended His Career (Hypocrite)
325 likesWhile I admit dogpack404 is pretty manipulative, using Mr. Beast loyalists to “expose” him is strange…
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And someone who begged not to be fired from a company isn't a good source either. It's all a matter of what side you want to believe, the man who got fired and will obviously have more negative bias or a person currently working for him and will obviously have a more positive bias towards him.
0 likes@ well Jake continued to say he was a close friend, not sure why someone who disliked mr beast taht much and was disparaging against other employees would single out one. Not saying everything they said was true, 100% mrbeast had a hand in the video and what was said but it’s about as credible as you can be when connected with the proof in this vid and the 3rd party investigation what the employees are saying lines up. And atleast is a lot more credible then in dog packs video recording people without there permission.
3 likes@@emptmedia Are they credible people? Most of them were probably explicitly authorised by the MrBeast company to speak. And calling a coworker a "saint" doesn't also mean everything they say is credible, it's just not getting your coworker into shit.
14 likesWell I mean these are credible people, and Jake the main guy he uses in the video Jake weddle legit calls him a saint.
5 likesThis will feed drama YouTube channels for generations.
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hell nah
0 likes@zonatedspore97acamas how did he lie?
0 likesFr
0 likes@@shledoncooperemmmm its your ,🤓
0 likesAnd pay their rent ,utilities and internet for a month.
0 likes0:17 https//youtube.com//ycstheggf
0 likes@@Thecanadianseige69 just think about it, if DogPack was REALLY lying, he would’ve been sued for defamation months ago by Jimmy. So why hasn’t Jimmy sued? Now Soggy is trying to drag DogPack’s name through the mud
1 likeWe love Turkish Thomas Slop we all sat in unison
0 likes@jester1581 yeah
0 likeslmao
0 likesMorepegasus getting a bag🔥🔥🔥
0 likesAt least a week
0 likes@@zonatedspore97acamas Thats what's confusing me too, hes leaving out some things that are proven like feastables sugar being worse than hersheys which is proven on the bar itself, and extremely dangers to lie about since...diabetes.
1 likeI can’t link on comments but feb 2024. Its all over saying there's a 'new formula' and yeah it 'might not be as much as hersheys' but increasing it without properly alerting people is bad. EWG says its 43% sugar while hersheys is 58%.
Also the candy replaced ingredients making it less healthy and unorganic (Also removed organic ingredients and replaced with soy leeching and making the bar cheaper which is it or miss.) without alerting anyone other than saying there is a change, and a lot of people notcing the sugar count went up with no one commenting.
fr?
0 likesyou mean pegasus?
0 likesThis will feed drama YouTube channels for generations.
0 likes@@zonatedspore97acamasWhat exactly was he wrong about?
0 likesAli koca
0 likesits gonna go dry in month or two.
0 likesFacts sense those channels never put into detail
0 likesYouTube comment king ZAS
0 likesPegasus especially
0 likesThis like watching a show with some many f*cking recons, cliffhangers with filler episodes at this point😭
1 like@@leontriestoart
0 likesTo everyone in this chat, I just want to let you know that Jesus loves you and he can save you from sin, sadness and sickness.
@@zonatedspore97acamas
0 likesWhere are you going after you die?
What happens next? Have you ever thought about that?
Repent today and give your life to Jesus Christ to obtain eternal salvation. Tomorrow may be too late my brethen😢.
Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto man once to die, but after that the judgement
@@CalebDidWhat
0 likesTo everyone in this chat, Jesus is calling you today. Come to him, repent from your sins, bear his cross and live the victorious life
@@electricdummy_
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
She soggy serial deleted that video
0 likesit’ll only take a week with how fast they pump out their slop 💀
0 likesDon't Read My Username
0 likes@@zonatedspore97acamas How did he lie though ?
0 likes@@CalebDidWhat then James sommerton is gonna comeback with AI...
0 likesThis is like winning free pizza for life
0 likesstar wars will actually exist by the time this drama is over
0 likes@@leontriestoartWell actually 🤓 the Hershey bar was a snack siza and the feastible was a family size so it wasn't a fair comparison
1 likegenerations? u mean for the rest of calendar yr, n that’s only cuz @mrbeast has an insane number of subscribers.. that much attention enough to start a january sixth that actually gets actual change/results..
0 likesfor 1000 generations 💀💀💀💀
0 likesCreating generational wealth off of ads
0 likes@@Daviddity MorePegasus be like 👆
0 likesits over
1 likethe end
its finally over
hes over
its done
it got worse
its done
finally done
finally finished
Mrbeast commented now lmfao
0 likescommentary channels when there will be one-upmanship at the party:
0 likesMore slop for the slop channels troph
0 likesIkrrr hahaha😂😂😂
0 likesJinxxed it
0 likesHe’s basically shoveling coal into the soulless content farms to keep them running.
0 likesFun fact for all mrbeast is in fact a crypto scammer. he said in multiple times about crypto and allegedly has multiple wallets and coffeezilla that exposed KSI and Logan also exposed Mr Beast so most of these allegations from dog pack are fake there's some truth for you also he's still a massive prick who should be punished by all means
0 likeshey youre that " youtube feels different '" man
0 likesJesus loves you all✝️
0 likesI'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
5 likesThey know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form
They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor
I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours
Life's a fight, but trust, I'm ready for the war
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king
Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring
See, I believe that if I see it in my heart
Smash through the ceilin' 'cause I'm reachin' for the stars
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
Highway to heaven, I'm just cruisin' by my lone'
They cast me out, left me for dead, them people cold
My faith in God, mind in the sun, I'm 'bout to sow (yeah)
My life is hard, I took the wheel, I cracked the code
Yeah (whoa-oh-oh)
Ain't nobody gon' save you, man, this life will break you
(Whoa-oh-oh) in the thick of it
This is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows (everybody knows)
They know me where it snows, I skied in, and they froze (yeah)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told (ooh-ooh)
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na-na-na-na, ay-ay)
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na)
I guess this is how the story goes
1 hour here is 7 years on earth
0 likes@@zonatedspore97acamas do you not know how Cooking works ? Especially since he's using the same Examples as Dogpack and it's obvious that Dogpack used a smaller Chocolate bar to compare against a Bigger one .
0 likesNews Flash Bigger chocolate or bigger Foods require More ingredients. Who the Fuck knew ??? Obviously you never cooked or know how food works .
@@zonatedspore97acamas Can you say what was wrong with it
0 likesYou know it will!
0 likesThis video specifically is sketchy for a number of reasons—everyone is saying “so much journalistic integrity” but there’s a reason it’s SO HARD for journalists to get sources on the record before situations conclude. And he got four or five people to go on camera? They didn’t have NDAs? As a business student alone, this seems sketchy as all getout. I could be wrong—and obviously this is my opinion—this seems like the same kind of crisis PR Boeing uses. There’s a distinct lack of lawyers approving their statements—and both videos show Dogpack was terrified of being sued, so he was obviously cautioned it was possible. I… don’t believe his manager and coworkers weren’t cautioned the same way. That doesn’t make sense. Genuinely curious how Soggy Cereal got in touch with them.
11 likesEDIT: corrected the number.
EDIT 2: never mind I was right the first time
EDIT 3: I have been absolutely tearing my hair trying to think of another answer but I don’t think it’s possible Mr. Beast Corp didn’t know and approve of the interviews. I find it difficult to believe that they didn’t add a non-disparagement clause after part 1 came out. It’s good business, and Jimmy Donaldson always prioritizes good business, when he’s not prioritizing nepotism. Especially with at least one of the interviewees implied to have reached out to him. This reminds me of oompaville going back to defending him after that PR release. I just don’t think audiences are as gullible as drama channels (anymore) and this is clearly designed to sway YouTubers into collabing with Mr. Beast again, and not the audience. It’s really strange.
Soggy about to get a defamation suit that’s for sure
2 likes@@leontriestoart ahnestly also made videos on the "philanthropy" too.
3 likes@@zonatedspore97acamas yay
0 likes@@leontriestoart the videos of ahnestly on feastables are good but there are other videos on it too.
1 like@@leontriestoart yeah. I can see 2 responses.
1 like"it's basically rigged" so soggy says that means it wasn't rigged because he didn't say "for sure it's rigged' like this is the nerd in the classroom standing up and saying "technically the teacher says.."
2 likes@@zonatedspore97acamas yes I can see the response
9 likesSorry for accusing you of not responding, it didn't occur to me that YouTube comments is being wonky 😭
Can you see my response cuz idk if mine got sent either
@@zonatedspore97acamas really? He shows proof of the sugar and calorie counts. You just need to look at the numbers on the label. He also provides proof of the companies attempting to fight exploitation
30 likes@@leontriestoart can you see the response?
2 likes@@leontriestoart I wrote a response I hope it didn't get deleted.
2 likes@@leontriestoart say whatever about the other stuff but the feastables sh*t was proven.
12 likes@@leontriestoart soggy straight up lied about the child/slave lavour and being healthier than Hersheys...
16 likes@@zonatedspore97acamasyou've commented this 5 times, can you elaborate how he was wrong already? I've asked you a lot of times and you've refused to elaborate.
27 likesEdit: whoops. He did respond my bad
Is no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables?
34 likesI thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars?
some may find it hard to believe that there will become a day when the sweet utter of mrbeast drama will become milked dry forcing drama YT to gain their much undeserved nourishment elsewhere
83 likesfr
28 likes'Mr. Beast and his company are bad and shady people and have done things they should be called out for' and 'DogPack 404 is deserving of scrutiny and criticism considering his manipulation, obvious bias and lies' are two statements that can and should coexist. There's nuance in this.
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Maybe its for views but has everyone forgot that he cured peoples blindles built wells and houses and stil people are calling him bad maybe he did wrong things but hes a human and he is not above mistakes
0 likes@@vikspod 100% I hate the people are still acting like Beast is still this evil and shady guy ...no . It's one thing to be negligent and one thing to do stuff on purpose. Jimmy is stiil young and his channel grow so fast no one would be prefect . IMO Dogpack still the biggest scumbag
1 like@@Lacewise yeah, lots of bankrupt companies! I’m sure they are working. Everyone there is! That’s why they don’t have time to respond to any of this bullshit!
0 likes@@kra-v2r that's why you hire lawyers. Lawyers do all the work, you just how to show up for court if it goes in front of a judge and you have to give testimony.
0 likes@@Lacewise Frankly, I could use a good lolsuit watching.
0 likes@@vikspoddude knowingly hired two pedophiles I don’t think he’s in the clear bruh💀
0 likesso-called "nuance" is actually just Yakubian tricknology.
0 likesPeople forget that 2 things can be bad at the same time.
0 likes@@vikspod
0 likes>i have no idea
Yeah, bro, you don't - that's why you better educate yourself on the matter before jumping to meatride the guy
(p.s. lmao youtube is now erasing comments for the word that starts with "billion" and ends with "aire".)
@@vikspod
0 likes>i have no idea
Yeah bro, you don't. So why won't you educate yourself better on the topic before meatriding scam artist b--ionaire
(lmao they erasing comments for the word "bil----onaire" now)
DogPack's accusations should be thrown out completely. His credibility is zero. It does not help anyone to give any credibility to liars. Rosanna Pansino is going to go down in flames as a result. It'll happen. She is looking like a complete tool posting DogPack evidence and is going to end up in legal trouble for it.
0 likes@@vikspodlunchly
0 likesU guys realize people don’t document their terrible actions right? Especially when you become a big business. Then that business can do some pretty terrible things to you & never be noticed. Why r we keep sitting on the fence when it come to people with “status” it’s like you guys want to be manipulated
0 likesThat’s true but Mr beast is heavily manipulating all of us
0 likesIMO the issue is that people change sides too frequently too. DogPack is a possible scumbag? That doesn't mean Jimmy is suddenly the good guy here.
2 likesThe reverse also applies ofc.
@@vikspod
0 likes>I have no idea
Yeah bro, you don't - so probably go and look it up before glazing the billionare scam artist on youtube.
Love the Joe Strummer pfp bro
0 likes@@vikspod There is proof that the "people he helped" don't exist, his charity videos are fake.
0 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
1 like@@officialmonarchmusic 95% of the things said against him was false. And while the 5% is a problem, people don't really care, they just want to see the #1 channel burn.
0 likesBeen saying this since the start tbh. If Dogpack404's initial video wasn't mostly made up of ridiculous things, like the now infamous "that racoon is a paid actor" thing, then maybe I'd take less issue with the video, but on the whole, it just came off as unserious and petty.
2 likesThe response made it worse, with the "Well yeah, that's just a joke, don't take that seriously" Why was he saying that in a way that doesn't imply a joke at all, in a video that is talking about a very serious matter? It's poor form
@@nickmaster3886 the core problem with the Mr Beast company was it was badly structured and hired bad people including dogpack. The solution is to change its structure which they are doing following the recommendations of their law investigation. Mr Beast is doing the right move
0 likes@@vikspod He still committed crimes he should pay for. Negligence is irrelevant. He is responsible for his company.
3 likes@@theanubisfan10 exactly this. Plus MrBeast still has a lot to answer for like promoting gambling to kids and the crypto investigation
0 likes@Faithys. Well look, I kept getting censored about it, but while he's an idiot and the Beast Team could be at fault too, he's still a fucking idiot, Crypto Scammer, and he keeps hurting a good amount of people with his videos, and some of his biggest stunts have not been that helpful like TeamSeas. It's asking for too much of my good will, I can't see him as a good person when others are paying the harsh price for the expense of others.
0 likes@Neon_Henchman You have failed time and time again to stay on topic, and you're quite literally just yapping. Yes i've summed it up as your feelings, because thats how it is. It's your opinion. I respect it, but it's wrong.
2 likes@@Neon_Henchman bah! thanks! ☺ i really do try. it's hard not to think of all things in a binary sense of 0 and 1's or only in right or wrong, black or white, good or evil. i try to leave room for the gray area because i think it lessens the possibility of falling into echo chambers. it's definitely hard in recent times, but you never realize just how easy it is to fall into the trap of parroting others until you open yourself up to seeing it from a different perspective. it's harder than one thinks, and trust me, i've still taken some hard falls from it, but you end up just learning, you know?
2 likes@@Faithys. Lol, you don't have to hurt people physically to still hurt them, Mission Flight had to pay from their own pockets afterall. There you are bringing semantics.
1 likeWhatever man, Beast Shills really are something else.
@@Faithys. Before I get censored again; If MrBeast is the type of person to get into said position of power and get away with stuff easily when he's clearly dumb, then there are surely even more like him.
2 likesWhen there's business to be made, companies and bad actors can exploit it, there's an ableist, bullying his audience regularly, that could participate in a charity about mental health, when he may be the very reason they needed the charity to begin with, but it being a charity makes it not being scrutinized.
I hate what the Internet has become, and maybe it's a generational thing that you don't know what was appealing to millions like myself at first, but of course just sum it up as "my emotions" as I see hundreds of people getting screwed over by the current system.
@Neon_Henchman You're gish galloping right now. Stop presenting flimsy arguments randomly that don't support the main topic. Mrbeast has literally never harmed anyone physically, and most people who have interacted with mrbeast have come out in defense of him. And literally, WHAT are you talking about... Mrbeast isn't in a position of power. He is the top youtuber not because youtube gave him that position but because he earned it through hard work. How does the cryto thing show a lack of human values? What human values does he lack, exactly? What false narrative are you trying to spin, because it ain't flying.
2 likes@@Faithys. Good, I get censored again. Dude, I don't care if he's young, there are thousands of lives who have to interact with him, yet he never safeproofed his stuff, like warning Mission Flight before the video was made that there'd be a Third Party involved.
1 likeBesides, the Crypto thing shows a lack of human values, among other examples, I again don't care if it's unrelated to YT or he's a stupid kid, that's whom YT put in a position of power when he couldn't handle the heat.
@@Faithys. But his business smells like rancid cheese! How much good will should I give him??
0 likesBeing new on YouTube doesn't excuse you for manipulating the Crypto Market for personal gains like he did, there's a lack of Human Values which is what I've always alluded to, but sure if you consider it seperate from YT, then how does it excuse the Mission Flight thing?
People claim it's a Third-Party that's at fault, but that means that MrBeast worked with the doctors while never warning them "Hey! There are going to be some middlemen involved in this good deed, but I will still end up doing the right thing and paying the surgeries in the end." Not even something like giving them his phone number or whatever, there was zero contact between the doctors who wanted to do the right thing, and the Beast Team who made a video with millions of views, the latter of which wasn't bothered to look into said Third-Party when warned of discrepancy.
Was he, or were THEY, evil in this case? Not quite sure, but if anything, he sure is hella incompetent and YouTube should've never given him this position of power he has now if he wasn't ready. That's the problem I expressed earlier, that's all YT is now, promoting cretins and bad actors, while losing its identity that was so appealing to millions like myself. That's what happens when there's business to be made.
Dude, this is all just stupid, I don't care if Jimmy's young, there are thousands of lives that interact with him and he can't safeproof his crap, ever.
@Neon_Henchman I haven't made the claim jimmy is "just a youtuber" more than once, and no being a youtuber isnt of lower standard but it means he has lack of experience in the field he's now trying to get into. And you're charting into crypto currency, which is literally not the topic at hand (This is a red herring fallacy) and you're asking morally ambiguous questions. Helping 1000 people at the expense of less people isn't exactly evil, but it isn't exactly good either. You are attempting to paint an ill picture of mrbeast whos still young and learning.
2 likes@macnkeebs Sounds to me you're one of the good ones, you kinda put it nicely.
0 likes@@Faithys. Oh enough with your semantics, you keep claiming Jimmy "Is just a YouTuber!", as if a YouTuber is of a lower standard somehow. He has 50 Wallets, and is it worth helping 1000 people when you're screwing over 100s or so? I get censored for saying it.
3 likesit really feels like more and more, nuance gets completely lost and everything has to be a production that makes one side wrong and one side right rather than about actions taken. it even shows within the video --- seeing how upset hoodie was about the delay in helping people walk, rather than seeing that the actions taken by not only dogpack, but also by jimmy (as i'm sure it wasn't just dogpack's videos that nuked the connections that were happening for that video, but the bad press surrounding the squid games' contestant treatment, the lunchly controvery, and his recent internal investigation) - he places it entirely on a single side.
1 likecorporations don't solely focus on the chatter of youtube commentary videos when they nuke big philanthropy deals. they do their due diligence in the character and face behind their actions for possible blow back and while dogpack's videos were not helpful, there was plenty prior and after that had nothing to do with those videos that would make a company or association weary of partnership. it absolutely sucks for those who were to gain a procedure that would help their lives, but that "blame" goes beyond just a single person behind a megaphone and should include the other who has selective hearing and muteness.
@@Neon_Henchman How am i lucky? Nothing you say to me on here means anything to me, so how am i lucky?
1 like@@Faithys. You're lucky YouTube like bad takes, I can't reply like I want since they're heavily corporate, it's no longer about the people.
0 likes@@Faithys. You're such a shill. YouTube just keeps putting the wrong people into some sort of position of power, when they clearly never deserved it.
0 likesI don't even agree with 100% of what DogPack said, mind you.
@@Faithys. YouTube just keeps putting idiots into positions of power if they're ready to suck up. I don't care that "he's young!", 50 Wallets among all the other things is clear foul play, and is it worth it to help 1000 people when you screw over 100s if not 10000 others?
0 likesI didn't even agreed 100% with DogPack, but, guess what, there are nuances.
@Neon_Henchman Those are nice feelings you have, but thats all they are.. Feelings, that's how you feel.
1 like@@Faithys. Well here's a news flash; maybe YouTuber should've NEVER been a job, being a regular user for 15+ years, the magic is completely gone as it's all about money. Screw Companies working on YouTube.
3 likes@@Queef_Storm Crappy food products aimed at children. Hiring an SO. Likely being privy to inappropriate discord chats between his staff and underaged children. Associating himself with Logan Paul and KSI, to name a few.
3 likes@Lacewise This video is honestly very high quality and works to debunk almost 99% of everything dogpack said and also shatters most of dogpacks credibility moving forward. It shows us that dogpack has been doing this all in bad faith and has mostly cherrypicked evidence aswell as manipulated employees at mrbeast. I think that mrbeast made his fair share of mistakes as we all do, but he nor his company are bad. Mrbeast is still a YOUTUBER, he is LEARNING to run his company. Give him a break.
5 likes@@vikspod
0 likes@@vikspod
0 likes@@Masaim6 he literally didn't know that it was a sex offender you fucking dumbass
0 likes@@vikspod The video from coffee literally said jimmy was aware because in the podcast part he said he bought it and he promoted multiple on Twitter whether he bought it or told them to buy it doesn't change the fact he knew about the crypto. Most average p#d# supporter
9 likes@@vikspod I've investigated myself and have found nothing wrong
4 likes@@pheonix2700 L bozo
2 likes@vikspod L bozo you clearly didn't watch the coffizilla video in multiple segments and especially in the podcast part jimmy mentions saying he bought the crypto and he supported on twitter the only thing up for debate is whether he was the one to physically buy it or if he told the person to buy it. Your clearly to busy with their d down you're throat to pay attention.
0 likes@Neon_Henchman
1 likeSo basically Mrbeast team payed the 3rd party which payed everyone except one group and now I'm a shill because I'm pointing out this doesn't make Mr beast a bad person?
If your point is they didn't pay them(not their fault btw) so they bad and even though in the end they paid it without any litigation they're still bad, what does all the people they did pay count for? You remember that this whole thing was about giving people their sight? They even did more than they advertised and this isn't the first or last time. They did it for hearing and they are currently trying to do it for people who can't walk. You can say Mrbeast is just a normal person and not some extremely good guy but to say he's a bad guy is retarded
@@pheonix2700 They tried Phone Calls, Mail, they tried many things, yet they got nothing, only when the drama kicked in. How does the complete lack of communication like that excuse the Beast Team? You shills are something else.
5 likes@@Neon_Henchman also you didn't watch the video because it was the third parties fault that mission flight didn't get paid. Not theirs
4 likes@@vikspod yeah and parents who neglect their kids doesnt mean theyre bad, theyre just negligent, fuck off with that logic lmao
0 likesMrbeast should sue the heck out of dogpack, you can't just make up bad stuff about someone and just get away with it, he's so obsessed that he will lie to take mrbeast down , he's a loser
4 likes@ lots of companies sue broke people. Why would that stop Jimmy Donaldson? He hired expensive lawyers, from a business perspective, he might as well put them to work. Nothing you’re saying makes sense. It’d be much more beneficial to openly publish the corporate culture and documentation if Dawson lied, and it would be a deterrent for future potential bad actors. Your opinion doesn’t match reality.
5 likes@@skyrerite7734 ...50 Crypto Wallets, he seemed to know what he was doing there.
0 likes@@vikspod so your defending a pedophile? ☠️
5 likesSometime people need to remember, some people are young.
1 likeAnd have u guys know mrbeast age at this point, not even fcking 30 year lol
@@vikspod so your defending a pedo? ☠️
0 likes@@vikspod He coddled a registered sex offender, come on!
7 likes@@uristsaucy464 He’s still bad
2 likes@@thenewlordofpumpkins358 Least transphobic dogpack404 fan 😂
0 likes@@vikspod
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Asking for nuance after he's been defamed for half a year is too little too late. How about we restore his image a bit so people don't think he's the scum of the earth?
2 likesThis isn't even the first time this happened. Dream was completely innocent and the defamers did the damage and got away with it. But I can't put all the blame on the defamers. In reality people are super jealous and would hop on to any justification to spew hatred towards them.
@@vikspodeven if dogpack lied alot dont forget about the actual real leaked messages with jimmy and kris tyson "ava"
9 likes@@nathancrabtree2148 He hired a massive law firm to carry out an investigation on him. The law firm is not going to risk their reputation by lying. Mr Beast is already carrying out the restructuring based on the investigation's recommendations.
0 likesThe bigger problem with you is that nothing will ever be good enough. When criticising someone its important for the criticism to have a solution otherwise its pointless. There has to be something the person can do to fix things. But when it comes to people on your side, nothing is ever good enough. You will blame the Mr Beast company no matter what they do next.
@@vikspod Paying a specialist firm for an 'independent investigation' lol
9 likes@pheonix2700 would you say the same for people who did business with Chadman?
0 likes@@XD-sp4ye least unhinged dogpack404 fan 😂
3 likes@@vikspodfeastables uses child and slave labor i rest my case
0 likes@@vikspodCreating a brand with your “friend” who is a known scammer makes a you a bad person with intentions driven only by profits you mentally challenged individual. But I guess in Lagos Nigeria you dont care about things like morals or a spine cord for that matter
5 likesfully agree
0 likesWrong. Nuance is banned in any and all situations and has been for years now
1 like@vikspod with the coffezilla crypto investigation, he's definitely shady
7 likes@@sfs_expert Speaking of which;
0 likesFIFTY Wallets
"Oh he's just negligent."
Right... The shills cannot count.
@@Lacewise why would mr beast waste his time-I imagine he’s a busy guy-to sue someone who has no money? Just to prove dogpack lied? The truth always comes out in the end…so no need in my opinion. And the company is never given the benefit of the doubt. In fact otherwise-people jump on any false accusation for clicks and views. Seems like people just want to take them down. It’s ridiculous!!
3 likesFuck Jimmy, other dude is fine, literally 1000% less shitty than jimmy
0 likes@@theanubisfan10 but only one of these people is a ridiculously wealthy millionaire using money manipulate others into trying to solve all of his problems.
2 likesWhat? Nuance? No! We can't let people discover this concept!
3 likes@@vikspod other people have still made allegations, many being true. Especially the crypto allegations
7 likesI think people forget that Mr. Beast had controversies before and is known to be kind of shady, this is just the first controversy that really blew up, sadly it doesn’t seem to actually expose anything
5 likes@@Neon_Henchman i wonder what was popular on the fist few years of this decade and literary everybody talked about it and used it for trading for money...
1 like@@Queef_Storm Food poisoning.
2 likes@@theanubisfan10 So what is Mr Beast still guilty of?
0 likes@@Lacewisewell said god damn I read the whole thread to make sure someone shut down the wild thoughts trains going on here
5 likesNuance? In MY YouTube drama? Never
6 likesyup
1 like@@vikspod you ignored all the stuff I’m referring to (things the video calls into doubt but are either defamation so should be handled in court or Occam’s razor and probably happened). Fascinating.
8 likesIf Mr. Beast and the employees don’t sue Dogpack404 for lying about them it’s because there are worse things in their communications they cannot get rid of. End of. No alternatives.
Sadly there's no middle ground on the Internet anymore because extremism ruined it.
3 likes@@pheonix2700 If I remember correctly, they did tried to contact them directly, but they never got anything, I mean what prompted their video to begin with then?
4 likesHow about you stop being a sheep? I understand Beast finally paid them in the end, 2 years late but still the right thing, but this is ridiculous. Exactly you not putting him to a higher standard just 'cause """Charity""" is why the Internet is dead.
@@Neon_Henchman I think you need some solid PROOF that jimmy is the reason that happened or did that intentionally
5 likes@@pheonix2700 thats my point. I said Mr Beast and his team arent bad they just made negligent decisions in the past.
9 likesI think getting that internal investigation was the right move.
Personally, I’ve seen these situations too many times, and I say it like this:
14 likes“Even when both parties have claims, only the 3rd will be able to decide.”
No matter how altruistic or hypocritical you are, in the end, your In It to solidify your butt and make sure not to be swepted away. (Everyone is, even if u mean it as a good cause.)
Even if we say 100% of dogpack’s claims are invalid, he still brought an idea, and issues to light that Jimmy won’t be able to hide from, but also forces him to change or admit to what he did wrong, or to defend against and make sure he doesn’t do again, or ever.
No matter who’s right, they’ve gave insight about who they both truely are with these statements, and from that, it’s up to the people, the 3rd party to decide.
Tbh, I was up with dogpack’s side, since I don’t really enjoy Mr.Beast, but to say I’m blind enough to not be able to see the problems he has is very hypocritical. (Soggy’s an ass for not acknowledging the other side, and really doesn’t help his viewpoint if you call the other side dumb enough to “eat crayons.” If they don’t agree with you .-. )
People take what info they have at the time, and run with it, we all do, but as lunchly shows, Mr. Beast isn’t as much of a saint, or just as good as he says, and as some of the points Soggy brings up, (even if their also problematic, like also using things said in Podcasts as actual fact, idk why.) dogpack is the same.
Soggy claims he’s not a Mr. Beast glazer, but this video does seem like it. (Or his voice is just a glazer voice, I can’t tell.)
Mr. Beast did hire a pedo, and Chris did do the shit they did, even if it wasn’t on the main Discord, as well as work with KSI and Logan Paul, both individuals ruining their image, and making poor decisions, and scamming millions from people, but also theirs dogpack, who also made up evidence.
People can change, and I will 100% believe in that, but hypothetically, if both side were wrong, and both truly didn’t happen or nothing that Jimmy knew, this can be a growth for both Dog and Jimmy, since growth can’t occur without pain, we may not feel it, but pain has to happen for growth.
From what we know, theirs definitely shit that Jimmy has done, Lunchly is a example of it, and If u like Jimmy, hope he will grow from this, that’s all he can do, and hopefully, mend and make a better position for himself. (U might be able to help 1000 people, but if u forsake 10,000, does that make u a saint, or a devil? )
For dogpack, hoping he get backlash, he will grow as a person from this, and or be truthful in the future.
Will both these happen, probably not, but can we hope, yeah, and whether any of it is true, people can grow from this, and hopefully, the audience will understand not to fully put blind faith into just a man, since like us, he’s also imperfect.
Enough of the speech talk tho, let’s see what will be revealed later, since we all have a past, and Jimmy had said the N-Word before (like 1-2 decades ago, so it has been awhile.)
Whether side wins, kinda hope that the audience will be complacent in the outcome, since at the end of the day, they’re the ones deciding, not the influencers.
I think we forget this sometimes.
@@pheonix2700 I like how this somehow excuses not paying Mission Flight for 2 years until they were caught in the drama.
16 likesThis is why the Internet is dead.
@@vikspod again this doesn't make them bad in any way, moving from a casual company to a professional one will have hiccups. Atp people are just cherry picking to find a few faults that don't weigh to what has been upheld most often
18 likes@@vikspod insane meat riding
2 likes@@Lacewise Here's what we have evidence of so far. According to Coffeezilla, one individual who Jimmy hired acted badly(re crypto). Lunchly is a trash product and Logan Paul is a douchebag.
19 likesFor Jimmy to redeem himself, he needs to restructure his company and avoid negligent behavior like hiring bad people. He is already doing that following the lawyer's investigation and recommendation.
He also needs to resonsider associating with Logan Paul. That wouldnt make him a bad person tho just a person who is friends with a bad person
@@vikspod Lacewise kinda put it nicely, but due to YT's Auto-Mod not letting me speak, just look at Mission Flight, they weren't paid after the "1000 Blind People", they made a video saying that months before DogPack came into the picture, and they only got paid recently as MrBeast is sorry he got caught.
0 likesHe may've done the right thing in the end, but man, this smells like his Lunchlys, stop giving celebrities godhood.
@@vikspod no one and no company that needs that much benefit of the doubt should be given it. Otherwise you’ll be taken for a ride by people like Maria Butina. You need to know when the only explanations are “people did bad things” or “there’s a massive conspiracy against this person specifically.” You can throw doubt on anything, even things that definitely happened. The real question is when should you?
71 likesIt makes sense dogpack made mistakes because he was trying to rush the videos before the companies were cemented as major media organizations. The video claims he did it because he was malicious. If that’s true, everyone involved needs to sue him for defamation. Let the courts figure it out.
Otherwise this entire video is a cheap manipulation tactic.
@@Neon_Henchman 1. Coffeezilla's video shows Mr Beast was most likely negligent than "bad"
27 likes2. Being friends with a bad person doesnt make you bad just negligent
3. I have no idea what this "chocolate factory" is about.
4. "A healthy youtube channel" if these few occasions make his channel unhealthy, then all the thousands of people he helped must make his channel healthy.
This is exactly my opinion
3 likes@@vikspod There's been manipulation of the Crypto Market for his own gain, heck he's friend with a scammer of the medium. Also, negligent? Maybe in certain regards, but he freaking cherrypicked the person to give a chocolate factory to, among other things, all for the sake of content. This doesn't look like a healthy YT Channel at all to me.
272 likesThat is perfectly fair to say, DogPack AND MrBeast are not above criticism. However, what annoys me is when someone does said criticism, it often gets twisted solely into that they're getting something from it, which waters down the debate.
74 likesLike, yeah, technically the Critics are seen as better people, so they end up benefiting from their criticism of bad practices, but then should they have just done nothing? Let it go for even longer? It's so easy to just reverse the good will they did, like, did Retsupurae benefited from shitting on Nostalgic Critic, or did they actually had a point that his video/s were trash, waking some people up from his garbage?
I even expressed my skepticism towards charity events online and also MrBeast last year, as there had already been several frauds in this sphere and some people may not be investigated simply for "Looking" like good people, so I asked "Are we 100% sure that these guys are doing the right thing?" I was treated as crazy, but then Jirard came out as a fraud later that same year, which was exactly what I had feared, it's annoying how things turn out.
There are indeed nuances, but it's clear that, despite all the hobbyists littering the Internet, none of them are doing their due dilligence until a decade later, and when someone wants to do the right thing but there may be emotions and a personal experience involved, they get the UNO Reverse Card, and so it's often too late to do anything, had it not been for DogPack, the freaking Clinic wouldn't have gotten paid as promised.
@@vikspodcoffeezilla made a video discussing shady things mr beast and his company have been doing in the cryptoworld
0 likes"Mr Beast and his company are bad" what makes them bad? A fairer take is Mr Beast was negligent in his business practices. After the lawyer investigation, he used their feedback to restructure the company. I think he's doing the right thing.
147 likesShould’ve named this video “ I worked for Dogpack404 He’s a Fraud”
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well that would've been misleading, wouldn't it?
1 likelol
0 likes@@talontheamazing8073not really dogpack just greatly exaggerated amd added lies. Mr.beast has done shady stuff though
0 likes@Calvare16 there are? Like what I've only come across the Gru one
0 likesI think Narcissist is a much better word to describe him as a whole
0 likes@@ilymitski HELP IS ON THE WAY PLEASE STAY CALM
1 like2025 - I worked for Spggy Central, he's a hypocrite.
1 like"I investigated Dogpack404, he’s a fraud"
0 likesanother comment
0 likes@@ilymitski no
0 likes@@jjhaya "Soggy made accusations that Dogpack was a stalker based solely on a Discord chat, where a user suggests that stalking and texting someone are the same thing—an assertion that is simply untrue."
0 likesWhere, exactly, did Soggy make this accusation?
"Additionally, MrBeast followed Soggy on Twitter around the time he released his video, which implies a clear bias."
Following someone does not equate to endorsing them, and correlation does not imply causation. You're assuming bias without providing context or evidence.
"The hypocrisy in Soggy's video is laughable. He criticizes Dogpack for not conducting valid research, yet he tries to discredit Dogpack's friends, particularly Camnuggets, by misrepresenting a situation where Cam was accused of watching minors engage in inappropriate behavior on camera. In reality, Cam was actively managing the situation and instructing his moderators to ban the offending user, demonstrating responsible behavior rather than enabling misconduct."
This is really the only blunder in the video, which is why he deleted it from the video.
"Soggy's attempt to dismiss the allegations of an "uncomfortable workplace" by interviewing female employees was also troubling. He pointed out that the controversial “no does not mean no” statement was written by a woman as if that somehow legitimizes it. The authorship doesn’t negate the fact that such a statement can foster a workplace environment conducive to harassment."
He didn't "dismiss" the allegations, he added proper context. He brought A female employee on to explain the purpose of the statement because she was the one that wrote the statement. The fact that you think he brought a women on to delegitimize the allegations is beyond absurd and a stark indicator that you didn't actually watch or understand the video.
"What really frustrates me is Soggy's apparent favoritism towards a corporation. While I acknowledge that Dogpack may not be the most reliable source, he is currently the biggest whistleblower in this situation."
If Dogpack is the biggest whistleblower, that only speaks to his prominence, not his reliability. Simply being the most vocal or visible doesn't inherently make his claims credible or unbiased. If you're going to criticize Soggy for perceived favoritism, it's only fair to apply the same level of scrutiny to Dogpack, regardless of his status in the situation. Is it possible for you to believe that perhaps Dogpack is just a disgruntled former employee?
"In the video, the HR representative confirmed that the Locoya allegations were true. Why is this being overlooked? The typical corporate response was to assure the victim that they wouldn’t have to interact with the perpetrator again, but once the victim left, they brought the perpetrator back; the assistant was so traumatized by Locoya that they couldn’t even be in the same vicinity. This admission is significant."
It wasn't overlooked. And why does it matter? The focus of the video wasn’t on criticizing MrBeast or Locoya or anyone else—it was on addressing Dogpack’s baseless accusations and poor reporting.
"Moreover, the harm caused to creators like Nicole Rafiee, who lost access to her medication, and the neglect towards BenOfTheWeek, who went three days without care and received only a meager cold meal as an apology, cannot be ignored. There are credible reports regarding MrBeast's company being neglectful at best and intentionally harmful at worst. I also struggle to support someone like MrBeast, who staged a real-life version of "Squid Games"—in this context, he embodies the role of the wealthy antagonist."
This is entirely irrelevant. Again, The focus of the video wasn’t on criticizing MrBeast—it was on addressing Dogpack’s baseless accusations and poor reporting.
"Siding with a multimillion-dollar corporation feels wrong."
Correcting misinformation is "siding with a multimillion-dollar corporation"? Really? It's like you're trying to categorize Soggy and Dogpack into predefined boxes, deciding that one is less trustworthy than the other, rather than evaluating the merit of what each person is actually saying. It's pathetic.
"Additionally, all the individuals who testified for MrBeast are financially connected to him, which raises questions about their motivations."
Sure, but it doesn't invalidate their testimony. Without evidence showing that these individuals are acting out of self-interest or manipulation, this assumption undermines their credibility based solely on their relationship with MrBeast. It's funny, you're claiming that Soggy is the one being biased, but all you've done is express you're own bias throughout this entire comment.
"What I find particularly suspicious is how Soggy managed to get all these MrBeast employees to break their NDAs for this video. In previous videos from various creators, employees, and former employees were terrified of violating their NDAs. Yet here comes SoggyCereal, who somehow gains exclusive access to multiple individuals willing to speak on the record in the same interview, with MrBeast even commenting? This inconsistency makes me question the integrity of the whole situation."
I don't know exactly what you're referring to but I doubt the employees broke their NDAs. MrBeast commenting means jack shit.
"This inconsistency makes me question the integrity of the whole situation."
Maybe you should question the integrity of Dogpack, and acknowledge the criticisms instead of writing up this poor excuse of a defense?
And the part 2 gonna be "I worked for dogpack 404, he's a sociopath"
3 likesHe isn't @@talontheamazing8073
0 likesHe's changed the title of the video 5 times now so maybe there's still a chance lol.
2 likes@@Calvare16
0 likesTo everyone in this chat, Jesus is calling you today. Come to him, repent from your sins, bear his cross and live the victorious life
@@ilymitski
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
14:06 the problem is not the warcrimes joke, the problem for Jake weddle is that there was a lot of mental and physical and emotional stress on him, to the point that it felt traumatising for him (according to how weddle described it.) the lights being constantly on in a white room where he was trapped for days, no recording of the passage of time, no sleep, and the fact that this man had to Run a marathon for this video, becoming physically weakened and broken, for a monetary incentive and out of the feeling of helping his friend Jimmy, has to be some grounds for at least some offence to be charged. I could definitely see Jake pursue this line of action, but will it hold up? We don’t know. And no I’m denying that Jake at least had some free will in the room, but Jimmy could have communicated better the taxing demands and potential dangers to Jake before he committed.
2 likesI worked WITH Dogpack404 He's a Fraud
0 likes@@jjhayahow can talk so much without saying anything
1 likeThat would be perfect
2 likes@@hydra_lisk wow that's kinda deep and depressing 😦
1 likeSo is Mr Beast he is also a FRaud none of them are good
1 likeI suspected this video would be biased in favor of Mr. Beast even before watching it. Soggy made accusations that Dogpack was a stalker based solely on a Discord chat, where a user suggests that stalking and texting someone are the same thing—an assertion that is simply untrue. Additionally, MrBeast followed Soggy on Twitter around the time he released his video, which implies a clear bias.
5 likesThe hypocrisy in Soggy's video is laughable. He criticizes Dogpack for not conducting valid research, yet he tries to discredit Dogpack's friends, particularly Camnuggets, by misrepresenting a situation where Cam was accused of watching minors engage in inappropriate behavior on camera. In reality, Cam was actively managing the situation and instructing his moderators to ban the offending user, demonstrating responsible behavior rather than enabling misconduct.
Soggy's attempt to dismiss the allegations of an "uncomfortable workplace" by interviewing female employees was also troubling. He pointed out that the controversial “no does not mean no” statement was written by a woman as if that somehow legitimizes it. The authorship doesn’t negate the fact that such a statement can foster a workplace environment conducive to harassment.
What really frustrates me is Soggy's apparent favoritism towards a corporation. While I acknowledge that Dogpack may not be the most reliable source, he is currently the biggest whistleblower in this situation. In the video, the HR representative confirmed that the Locoya allegations were true. Why is this being overlooked? The typical corporate response was to assure the victim that they wouldn’t have to interact with the perpetrator again, but once the victim left, they brought the perpetrator back; the assistant was so traumatized by Locoya that they couldn’t even be in the same vicinity. This admission is significant.
Moreover, the harm caused to creators like Nicole Rafiee, who lost access to her medication, and the neglect towards BenOfTheWeek, who went three days without care and received only a meager cold meal as an apology, cannot be ignored. There are credible reports regarding MrBeast's company being neglectful at best and intentionally harmful at worst. I also struggle to support someone like MrBeast, who staged a real-life version of "Squid Games"—in this context, he embodies the role of the wealthy antagonist.
Siding with a multimillion-dollar corporation feels wrong. Additionally, all the individuals who testified for MrBeast are financially connected to him, which raises questions about their motivations.
What I find particularly suspicious is how Soggy managed to get all these MrBeast employees to break their NDAs for this video. In previous videos from various creators, employees, and former employees were terrified of violating their NDAs. Yet here comes SoggyCereal, who somehow gains exclusive access to multiple individuals willing to speak on the record in the same interview, with MrBeast even commenting? This inconsistency makes me question the integrity of the whole situation.
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0 likes@@Shaunshahriar the truth is: the real fraud was the friends we made along the way😔
11 likeshow far will this loop go: "I worked for soggy cereal He`s Fraud" and than on and on
9 likesreal
2 likesAnd change the thumbnail to Dogpack's video, except change MrBeast's face to Dawson's
8 likesFr 😂
2 likesMore like I am investigated MrBeast. He’s innocent. (kind of.)
16 likesThat would’ve been such a good idea!!
8 likesthere are so many meme videos at this point that no one would click on it
142 likesHELP
49 likesOkay so I'm going to give my honest opinion. I think the majority of the video is well done. You did a great job talking about all the things Dogpack did wrong. But there is just one nagging thing at the back of my mind and that is the employee interviews at the end.
552 likesUsually when it comes to situations like this, especially when legal ramifications are at play, employees usually stay out of the public discussion mainly at the request ("request", not instructed/demand, that could be seen as legally problematic, especially with opposing opinions) of the organization as to not stir additional confusion or accidentally step over the feet of the public relations team. Even if they speak in good intention they can accidentally say something wrong or word something incorrectly (because they're human, not because they accidentally slipped out forbidden knowledge).
So that whole segment where you have just a bunch of current Mr. Beast employees, especially ones close to Dogpack is just really weird from a PR strategy perspective. Because with the whole issue unfolding as well as internal investigations they would be the most likely employees to be contacted within the organization for inquiry with regards to their experience with Dogpack.
But let's say it is perfectly plausible that all these employees happen to comfortably just sit down and do a public facing interview, and the PR team somehow never contacted them with regards to making public appearances on the matter, or are perfectly fine with them doing so. There is a recent issue that Mr Beast (either Jimmy himself or someone in the organization) is reaching out to other big content creators and encouraging them to make videos on this video Soggy made.
So now, with all that, I can't help but think that perhaps the PR team, and to an extention Mr. Beasts organization, were informed about the making of this video prior to release. And how much they may or may not have a hand in any of this is now up in the air.
This could very well be a false flag and Jimmy/Mr. Beast is just really dumb trying to increase the videos exposure by DMing creators, as opposed to drafting and presenting their own statements publically, all without Soggy's knowledge. But that false flag still needs to be addressed regardless.
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That's a lot of words to say 'yeah I don't know' my guy.
0 likesDamn for making such demands I sure hope you're a paying member of this channel😂 Such level of entitlement
0 likes@@DanielJacobs-rz1zlit’s a plausible theory
0 likesOf course they were involved in the making of this video. Soggys somehow has access to all this behind the scenes stuff, including the recording of dogpack being fired and we just gonna pretend that Soggy is somehow a renowned investigator despite having zero background in investigative journalism, yeah right!
1 like@@shadowed69Dog pack meat rider
0 likes@@Абдулло-щ3е9э lol i wrote a whole ass essay criticizing every point in this video and I only received replies saying "yap" or "i aint reading allat."
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOne Yeah in another of my comments that unfortunately did not receive as much attention, I mentioned how this is the only video MrBeast has both commented on and pushed to youtube commentators (pyrocynical for example) while he keeps refusing to address the allegations publicly. Rather than helping clear out questions, the investigation letter raised more suspicion and questions. His new implements include removing 3 of his CEO's, finally implementing mandatory training and codifying policies. So what the hell was the company doing before?
0 likesYeah I also criticized soggy for being condescending and obnoxious in a child like mocking way, needing to insult dogpack's intelligence every 5 minutes to discredit his points. That made the video really hard to watch.
@@OtakuHustle no it's not shut up
0 likes@@shadowed69 no it's not
0 likesNo
0 likes@@cjinworldofgaming511 I never said it was true. Either you can't read, or you're purposefully misrepresenting me to try to bolster your non-argument.
0 likes@@rars0n Ah, yes, you still believe it's true even when Jake the Viking clowned himself. Perfect.
1 likeHe brings Jake Weddle up when discrediting Jake the Viking because it's supposed to tell you "You know it's bad when even people who claim Mr. Beast intentionally hired the guy discredit Jake the Viking".
"Mental gymnastics reek of desperation" nice projection mate.
You try so hard to make a well articulated argument that you fail to see the issue.
Since Jake the Viking clowned himself (even criticized by Jake Weddle), and no one provided evidence, the best way is to think if it makes sense, or not (which does not. I don't think when you hire knowingly a predator, your mother would also approve).
I also want to address is that the main reason why he criticizes the AI segment is because Jake had no reason to not put a disclaimer before starting the video, especially when you notice he didn't outright state it was AI, and there's no other reason to do it other than clearly bad intentions.
@@shadowed69 did you even watch the video? lol
0 likes@@cjinworldofgaming511 It doesn't matter what I think, nor does it matter what you or what Soggy Cereal thinks. That has no bearing on whether the claim is true or not. I've never met his mother, so I can't possibly comment on whether that seems ridiculous or not, because I don't know the first thing about her.
3 likes"Jake Weddle even confirms Jake the Viking is a terrible narrator (the vid literally shows the clip of Jake calling him terrible at 10:32)"
He says "he's not a good guy, and that's an opinion based on his actions and my eyeballs." So what? Either Jake is correct and he's not a good guy, or Jake's opinion is wrong. Neither one has any bearing on whether or not what Jake (the Viking) claimed is true.
These mental gymnastics reek of desperation. This is not how one crafts a solid, logical argument. For the record, I don't like Dogpack, Jake Weddle, or Jake the Viking, but I'm not stupid enough to think that my opinion validates the unfounded idea that everything one of them says is a complete lie. Also, it's really stupid to call Jake Weddle a liar repeatedly, and then try to use him as a credible source to make the claim that Jake the Viking is unreliable.
And by the way:
"And it's not hearsay when even Jake Weddle even confirms Jake the Viking is a terrible narrator"
That is literally the definition of hearsay: unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another and not part of one's direct knowledge.
@@baconingbad I realize that, but a claim made by someone with direct knowledge of the situation is a lot stronger than the counter arguments of "that sounds crazy" and "other people don't like him." It's not at all a sound refutation of the claim. It just further adds to the spiteful, personal tone of the video and diminishes the credibility of his legitimate arguments.
1 likeExactly. No employee came out on this video without express permission and probably coaching from MrBeast company first.
2 likes@@rars0n "Opinion"
3 likesI just rewatched the segment, and it makes even more no sense. Just think about it, don't you think it's ridiculous that Jimmy, who barely turned 18, with his MOTHER, would knowingly hire a predator?
And it's not hearsay when even Jake Weddle even confirms Jake the Viking is a terrible narrator (the vid literally shows the clip of Jake calling him terrible at 10:32)
@@rars0n There is no evidence that Viking’s claim is true either, that’s the problem.
3 likes@ fam I was jokin pls don’t think I’m hatin
1 like@@shadowed69 Drama so far: Corrupt Government Leader uses Corrupt Journalist to slander Corrupt Rebel Leader
2 likes@@OtakuHustle heres another observation, if Dogpack was really talking complete bullshit, Jimmy could've and SHOULDVE sued 3 months ago for defamation. So why has Jimmy not sued yet?
10 likesmoreover, this video seems like its trying to bash Dogpack on a personal level, so its just a glorified, premium version of AliKoca's short
@@vmadhavan435 Usually I'd agree. But the video is 1h 27min so I think I can get away a couple of paragraphs.
5 likesI ain’t readin allat
1 like@@cjinworldofgaming511 "To quote from Soggy Cereal..."
2 likesThe problem is that the first statement is opinion and the second is hearsay. Neither statement is actually evidence that the claim is untrue.
Yeah this whole video screams “sponsored by Mr beast”
7 likes@@shadowed69 " Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago."
3 likesTo quote from Soggy Cereal:
"First, have you ever realized how absurd that sounds? (context: It was about the mother allowing Delaware to be hired by Mr Beast despite knowing it) And secondly, Jake the Viking is terrible and unreliable, and even Jake Weddle confirms it"
There you have it.
@@shadowed69 I am not saying Soggy is 100% trustable, but neither is Viking. Soggy actually addresses Viking’s claim and explains why he can’t be trusted. Did you even watch the video? Soggy isn’t even trying to say that Beast is a good guy.
5 likesHonestly, I'm only 16 minutes in and it's not a great video. Not terrible, just not great.
24 likesThe interview with Garrett is just a bunch of leading questions; everything stated came out of Soggy Cereal's mouth in the form of a yes or no question. At 9:57, Garrett even says "yeah, you said it man." Garrett is the one who is supposed to be telling the story, not the interviewer. It's a really poor way to ask questions, especially if you're trying to sound impartial. If the rest of his interviews are anything like this, then they're completely useless.
The bit about "war crimes" is misleading at best. Jake was clearly retelling the story as if it were a joke, even if he didn't outright state that it was ("24 hours of breaking the Geneva Convention" was also clearly an attempt at a joke). Dogpack adding text on the screen in an attempt to make the claim seem more serious is its own thing. Jake has said some stupid things, and I don't even particularly like him, but he didn't lie about that specifically, and he clearly knew it was a joke as he stated as much in his own video (which Soggy Cereal portrayed as a "slip up," which is really reaching).
The AI video was stupid, but Jake literally stated immediately after presenting the clip that it was AI. I highly doubt anyone is going to turn off the video without hearing it, because if they're interested at all in that clip, then they're probably going to want to know what Jake thinks about it.
Also, regarding Delaware, it's pretty clear that in the original Dogpack video, Jake is retelling information that he heard from other people, not stating things he knows as fact. Sure, this could have been made much clearer, but again, that's Dogpack's fault. Trying to portray Jake as a liar simply because he doesn't always explain himself perfectly within someone else's edited video highly suggests that this video is not impartial.
@OtakuHustle I need to ask. What WERE the "main arguments" Dogpack tried to push? Most were about faking videos and this has been disproven. The "illegal" lotteries weren't illegal. In the end he showed proof of how pathetic dogpack was in his interview to get re-employed. If this doesn't make you stop riding dogpacks dick which smells like liar since miles away, you are just a really stupid human.
0 likesYeah, this is a shill piece. It's pretty obvious given the connections this guy seems to have, which makes the "debunking" as a whole suspect. This is PR, so, why should I believe any of it is remotely factual?
0 likesWhat is even worse, is if true some testimony contradicts established testimony. Some of the math on some things is wrong. And the poster of this video is behaving in a revolving door fashion. (Defended Beast, realized they were wrong and apologized, defended Beast again) and we have to remember MrBeast worked with Logal Paul and KSI who have been involved with some bad things before.
26 likesThis entire situation is incredibly suspicious, there is absolutely corruption on this end but to what degree we can't know yet.
@@shadowed69 I think Soggy's arguments are far poorly elaborated, they don't address any of the main arguments in any of the allegations and try to "debunk" irrelevant details dogpack got wrong. His evidence is in no way credible as all the employees are currently employed and under NDA's. Just like dogpack, screenshots and vague images are no form of proof either. This is a very poorly elaborated video with clear intent to deceive and counter defame MrBeast's offender (aka dogpack). His argument about illegal lottery 1 is braindead, his interview with the pandemic contestant is the most obvious lie ever (split 1 million amonst 24 people for free, yeah and pigs can fly), and defending the poor excuse of an investigation letter from the law firm Jimmy himself hired. Absolute dog shit of a video, at least dogpack was more elaborate with his cherry picking.
59 likes@@Абдулло-щ3е9э This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
75 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl Correct. I am making a guess, I do not have proof, I am making observations based on the knowledge that I know. I was not trying to prove anything, I stated that there was something nagging at the back of my mind and that this could just be a false flag on my part.
67 likes@@Абдулло-щ3е9э You clearly are guessing something without the proof.
0 likesMe: "This guy probably wrote smth like 'soggy cereal sucks' like the others."
32 likesThe well structured 5 paragraphs in question:
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl Yes, I am guessing based on knowledge, I never said that anything I wrote as fact, I just said that there was something nagging the back of my head and that it also might be a false flag.
91 likesThere's nothing to talk about, he just contacted people asking questions unless you got proof any of the higher ups were involved you are just guessing.
15 likescan't wait for the insane slew of "Dogpack 404 situation is insane" videos that don't add anything to the discussion!
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Peak on Peak’s comment section?!?
0 likesBEDSHEET HOLYYY
0 likesHiiii im ur fan ❤
0 likes@seth5143 I click the fucking button and I still see the channel a week later
0 likes@@zaherbaveaur
0 likesHow did you "try" to block channels? By praying about it? It's a quick & simple process which is effective every time, one of the few features this website offers which truly does work. Unlike say...commenting with the expectation that it will actually show up.
no way, ur here?
0 likesdont blame them
0 likesslop drop 🗣️‼️
0 likesWhy are you here???
0 likes@igor_ostrovski then you are petty and annoying
0 likesi love ur vids bedsheet😍♥️🥰
0 likesSlopman: Into the Slopverse, The Slopengers, The Slop-men.
0 likes@@Stender_ Right? I have to remind myself sometimes that I don't know or care about any of these people 😭
1 like@@bobguyhuman 'muh don't watch' what if the simple fact of their existence bothers people?
0 likesMrBeast is not done?
0 likes@@leontriestoart Ya know that aint his job right? He's said already that he's just summarizing whatever comes out.
0 likesI swear a living Christ if this happens I’m gonna lose my shit
0 likesyou are EVERYWHERE i go 😭😭
1 likewow bedsheet ghost I’m a big fan
0 likesNgl they are perfect background noise
0 likesbro I love how youtubers from every single fucking genre and type are here this is getting crazy
0 likesyoo bedsheet
0 likesMY GOAT
0 likes@bobguyhuman thats the thing, i barely watch any of it
0 likes@@questionmarkquestionmarkques do you watch a ton of the drama or smthing
0 likesPeagsus is about to switch on a dime
0 likeswsg bedsheet ghost
0 likeswtf I didn’t expect to see u here 😭
0 likes@@leontriestoart He reacts to other peoples videos. I don't like his content but he also has no reason to apologize for claims he didn't even make himself. Him expressing his opinions on other peoples research does not require his own research or a apology if it goes wrong. He is just following the info like the rest of us but he makes low tier garbage videos about it.
0 likesThe people making claims need to do the research and provide evidence. Not the guy saying "oh wow" to those people lmao.
This is why I blocked all those channels 😔
0 likes@@bobguyhuman i do that and they still keep coming back
0 likescant wait for fisch is the most peak game on roblox
0 likesbedsheet?? what r u doing here
0 likesTo be fair, the people like MorePegasus and Moistcritikal who are reporting on this situation are making millions of views each video. So i’d honestly do the same.
0 likes@spookysheets3900 spreading poorly researched lies for fun is cringe 😭 pegasus just like repeats anything dogpack says without verifying if it's true
0 likes@@leontriestoart pegasus is retired al;ready tho.. I dont see the problem? hes just doing it for fun
0 likes@@Stender_
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
yo i watched your vids
0 likesBedsheet? Why are you here?
0 likesHe's done. It's over. The end. Goodbye. Bro's cooked. Crazy.
0 likes@@_.Lix._ same
0 likesWhy is Bedsheet Ghost here?!
0 likesLiterally 😂😂😂
0 likesyk we dont have to watch those commentary videos right?
0 likeshello bedsheetghost
0 likesBedsheetGhost in a soggy cereal video?
0 likestimeworks 😭😭
0 likesI literally came here because I saw one of those "the new situation is insane" in my for you page
0 likesthe dogpack situation got worse
0 likesjust dont watch them bro, its not that deep
0 likesno way its bedsheet on a soggy cereal video, congrats on 100k
0 likesIt’s funny, that you can just not watch this shit and stop making a fools out of yourself by trying to “fight it”, while creating even more slop. Who cares what anybody watches lol, it ain’t affecting you in any way.
0 likesHello
0 likesfisch is not an rng game
0 likes@@benstone1O1 no morepegasus
0 likesI CAN SMELL THE PYRO SLOP!!!
1 likeMore slop!
1 likePegasus
0 likestrue
0 likesWe all know you're talking about Pyrocynical
0 likesWhy the hell are you here 😭 (new vid when fr)
0 likes@@NamesAce21 i mean this is maybe the most mainstream youtube drama.
0 likesWhy the hell are YOU here of all people
0 likes"THE DOGPACK 404 SITUATION IS INSANE ITS OVER THE END ITS OVER HES DONE IT OV-" - more pegasus, probably.
0 likesBro what is bedsheetghost doing here?
0 likes@@Smokin_5.56 He didn’t even cover this entire drama. He originated this type of titles, but it’s only the newer slop channels that have ran it to the ground
0 likes@@leontriestoarthe really did earn a million during this drama, didn’t he?
0 likes“He is finished” “Finally done” etc etc
0 likesMorePegasus gonna go crazy with this
0 likes@@zaherbaveaur Do it properly, if you click dont recommend and you are still on the video, it will confuse the algorithm.
0 likesYep that’s how YouTube works
0 likesOmg it's bedsheets ghost!
0 likesHi bedsheet
0 likes@leontriestoart I mean he is a commentary ytber , gotta get that bag
0 likesBEDSHEET GHOST?- BRO I LOVE YOUR CONTENT AND AM ON YOUR GROUP WALL A LOT, this is a crazy random coincidence
0 likesNo way ,you are here.
0 likes@BedsheetGhost_ didnt think i'd find you here, keep up the great content dude!
0 likesIsn't this exactly what your channel is too
0 likesYo ficsh man
0 likesBed sheet
0 likesomg its bedsheet ghost make another twisted history video please i love it. its the only content i watch of you
0 likesmoistcritical is currently taking notes.
0 likesJesus loves you all✝️
0 likes@@MeandMe-js7gpcan i get the song name
0 likesI'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
3 likesThey know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form
They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor
I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours
Life's a fight, but trust, I'm ready for the war
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king
Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring
See, I believe that if I see it in my heart
Smash through the ceilin' 'cause I'm reachin' for the stars
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
Highway to heaven, I'm just cruisin' by my lone'
They cast me out, left me for dead, them people cold
My faith in God, mind in the sun, I'm 'bout to sow (yeah)
My life is hard, I took the wheel, I cracked the code
Yeah (whoa-oh-oh)
Ain't nobody gon' save you, man, this life will break you
(Whoa-oh-oh) in the thick of it
This is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows (everybody knows)
They know me where it snows, I skied in, and they froze (yeah)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told (ooh-ooh)
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na-na-na-na, ay-ay)
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na)
I guess this is how the story goes
@@Bubbledazwood its the fisch guy
0 likesFuck youtube at this point
0 likesHELLO BEDSHEET GHOST
1 likeOH HELLO BEDSHEET GHOST
2 likesNEVER EXPECTED TO SEE YOU HERE
You most know (more pegasus) XD
1 like@@leontriestoart At first I didn’t care that he made like 4 videos on it, but it’s getting ridiculous.
3 likesgonna tag him @morepegasus
0 likesim on it
23 likesI'm subbed :D
0 likesPegasus will be all over it on his morepegasus channel
5 likesRight.
0 likesI couldnt give any more f*cks about MrBeast, Dogpack, Ava Kris Tyson, Logan Paul, KSI, and [insert your current influencer clown here]...
I can’t wait for people to also be mad when someone like penguinz0 doesn’t talk about it
3 likes@@zaherbaveaur i put "do not reccomend this channel" once on a pegasus video and i haven't seen any of his videos in my reccomended once since
7 likesPenguinz0 monotone ass reaction incoming.
14 likes@@bobguyhuman ive tried so many times to block a specific channel it never works
16 likes@@Sandensity i can ask them instead, i live in their floorboards 🥰
2 likesi dont get why people are mad about this because you can just block the channels from appearing on your reccomended or say that you aren't interested
27 likesnever add anything and never get the context right
2 likesITS THE PHIGHTING GUY
6 likes@@leontriestoart the madness must stop 😭
14 likescan you ask the phighting devs what the next character is
20 likesMore pegasus immediately switches sides, makes 15 videos and 1 million dollars, doesn't apologize for not researching his initial Mr beast videos
324 likesEvery. Single. Time. None of this stuff matters anyways, life goes on
129 likesMr beast deleted comment
1282 likes"Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless
slander about me lol"
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He also paid for his flights to North Carolina, that's how "objective" this video is lmao
1 like@@Bob-ew1hxNo he isn't dog pack meatrider
1 likehe is right, a little bit sketchy he deleted the comment.
1 likeIT DOSENT MATTERR, I JUST WATCHED THE ENTIRE VIDEO AND DOG PACK IS A PEACE OF SH^T, HE LITERALLY RUINED A MAN'S REPUTATION JUST BECAUSE HE WAS LAZY AND GOT FIRED
0 likesMr Beast is a coward
0 likesThanks dude i was looking for it bruh why did he delete
0 likes@@RedBrick2 Avg Rylanor W
0 likesI dont trust mrbeast for personal reasons
0 likes@ yeah but KeemStar is touching himself to the title of this video
0 likes@@Dizcreti I think Rosanna's vid on the lunchly is up there in terms of trustworthiness
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOneyeah nothing but coffeezilla video is trust worthy. Mr.beast aint going to let ceral hit lol
3 likesBro was desperate
0 likes@@droketheroper and lets ask how the hell did Soggy get access to all these employee interviews and the supposed "leaked" dogpack audios if Coffeezilla couldn't get hold of any MB employees
6 likesI tried to warn ya'll dogpack404 was a PDDDDF file
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOne and maybe was who knows, doggypack got some anonymous texts from soggys financial adviser to show on twitter/X 😂
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnth if he had just left this video alone, dogpack would've been pressured to respond back
6 likesbut instead jimmy made himself look even more like a fool and now half the community thinks that soggy was paid off by beast
@@TheTrueBlueOne EXACTLY, HE IS NOT INNOCENT, if many youtubers/streams are getting kicked off their careers because of screenshots of them texting minors mrbeast still has LOTS of debunking left
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnth jimmy the beast donaldson (also check my edited reply)
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOne who is "Jimbo" in this case?
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnth and now Jimmy Beast is sliding into the DMs of numerous commentary channels to try to get them on his side.
12 likesit just seems desperate and quickly turned Soggy's journalism into MrBeast propaganda
edit: soggy has since expressed his disappointment on twitter that mrbeast has essentially misused his content as a "get out of jail free card"
lmao i think everyone and their grandma saw that, its archived in alot of commentary channels
0 likes@@Jhonjudebeyseo yea just go do a simple google search, the evidence is right there
0 likesWas it really his comment?
0 likesthis man is DESPERATE for any type of meat glazing nowadays
0 likes@@romanticmonkey It creates a space for bias, by not simply disclosing that information up front. That's doing the opposite of what the goal of this video is. And it's true he said so in a Chud logic interview.
1 like@@fastcheetos1 Oh man he did comment that LMFAO, wild
1 like@@yomommaLBut this video proofs that accusations by dog pack are false, why would you answer them it's an obvious provocation
1 likehe did not delete his comment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JFzvL693lY&lc=Ugy4rzFR4vLzhI-2s854AaABAg.AAvczCfaSkFAAxUzctb5e1
8 likes@@droketheroper so what if that's true?
0 likesI was going to comment "The fact you still think he seeks any glory betrays the true blindness that has overcome you" Of course he's a coward though.
2 likesDid Jimmy really think no one would save this comment? God he's such an idiot lol
0 likesI found his Comment in DingoBroLug video "MrBeast Is Innocent"
4 likesReminder that airfare for this video was paid under the table by a MB affiliate named Dustin because Soggy couldn't afford it.
19 likes@@tanvirsourav83no ignoring all the videos was ruining his reputation even more
18 likes@@Kylehappy305 ye, but doesn't really sound like him.. probably someone else did on him behalf
72 likesWait he actually commented on this?
26 likesmy headcanon is that he didn’t watch the whole video before commenting and then saw it call him out for crypto stuff then deleted it, but who knows
191 likesYeah he should've just ignored all the videos, lost a lot of aura but commenting that
249 likesDude was desperate
Upcoming Pegasus video, I can already feel it in the air
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Hate that guy. Laziest YouTuber on the planet
0 likesHe’s licking his lips boutta pay for his entire families Christmas
0 likesHe has glazed dogpack too hard to suddenly make a video against him. Bro is annoying honestly
0 likesthe funny part is he is aware of the milking hes done
0 likesNo, Pegasus has glazed Dogpack so hard it'd be like self-reporting
1 likeYes but it still won't change the fact that Mr beasts reputation is ruined
0 likesThis won’t gain enough views for him to talk about. I fear it will fly under his radar
0 likes200,000 units are ready, with a million more well on the way
1 likeAt this point saying Pegasus is milking is even more milked than Pegasus himself
0 likes@@guerra5152 nah 50 more slop vid
0 likesVideoS. Can't just be one video 😄
0 likesHES BACK? I’m green text
0 likes"MrBeast Is OVER” ahh thumbnail and title
1 likevideos*
1 like"video" why singular?
0 likes"The END of dogpack..."
0 likeshe's not gonna make a video because that will make him look bad
0 likesriding a lil to much
0 likes@@The-Idiot LMAFOO
0 likesThe END of Dogpack404 (EXPOSED)
1 likeThat's a pegasus alright.
0 likesHe probably still gonna be meat riding dogpack
0 likesyep you're sure right
0 likesi already smell the titles
1 like"he lied!?"
"mr beast is innocent'
"insane mrbeast update''
@@Granolahsolos a taste of his own medicine
0 likes@@momomon7662Most commentary YTs do this. This is why you should make your own opinion.
0 likes@@LovetoDIY12I mean, there's no gain...
0 likesPegasus hasn't responded to any of the allegations being disproven yet, I doubt he'd start now. Could be wrong, but several people have been debunking Dogpack since his first video, and there's no way Pegasus doesn't know about it. Pegasus knows that being anti MrBeast is not monetarily advantageous, and that's why he's never criticized Dogpack before.
0 likesDOGPACK IS OVER
1 likeITS OVER
HES COOKED
ITS JOEVER
HES DONE
DONE FOR
Upcoming 5 months rent from pegasus
0 likes15 Pegasus slops
0 likes@ yep.. if he posted about something else or did more research, I would I’ve still been watching him.
1 like@@LovetoDIY12 Same story here, I was a long time viewer but this just made me realise how little research Pegasus does, lost all my respect for him.
2 likesNah he's going to ignore this and glaze Dogpack
2 likes@@Granolahsolos Dockpack responded...
0 likes@@Granolahsolos HES FINISHED
2 likesHE LIED
IT'S OVER
FINALLY OVER
@@LovetoDIY12 same
1 likeFr… hes so annoying, i used to watch him until he kept milking the damn situation.-.
6 likesIt’s finally over, He’s done, It’s Over
4 likeseven the days where people said if you don't drink milk your bones will become weak had less milking than what Pegasus does
2 likesit's right behind me, isn't it?
2 likesdo you mean the one that adds nothing to the scene
6 likes.
0 likesit's like the smell in the air before a storm
1 likeSee him make 50 more videos... bro is just dropping videos like crazy
2 likes@@The-Idiotnahh he meant 10 more
1 like@@BeastHighlightsOfficial it's over
4 likes“Soggy Cereal Just Ended His Career…” “HE’S DONE”
47 likes😂😂😂
3 likesDOGPACK IS OVER
127 likesDOGPACK IS FINISHED
THE DOGPACK SITUATION
INSANE DOGPACK DRAMA
Dogpacks face and the "hes done" on the thumbnail
115 likesDamn it I gotta start using sobbing and not crying grrr
6 likesHe finna milk again cryo
52 likesfr
7 likes@@The-Idiot actually
1 likedo you mean 6 more right after?
392 likesHey man great video, really enjoyed it. However, I would like to point out the missinformation about the festiable bar. If you do the math to convert the serving sizes the equal mass, the Feastables bar ends up having more calories, total fat, saturated fat but cholesterol having slightly less sodium and total sugars. These are usually the differences of 1~3 grams or milligrams in the case fo sodium and cholesterol but I think it would be disengenuous to not point out that the Feastables bar is not in fact healthier than hershey's.
81 likesI dont got any media literacy. I blindly believed dogpack, and now im gonna blindly believe you because its easiest on my mental bandwidth. The world is too crazy for me to keep up with, so if you get disproven on your claims, I'll blindly believe the person who debunks you. As the cycle goes to make sure I'm not swallowed whole by the court of public opinion
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@@UsernameUsername0000 the myob mentality is crazy
0 likesthanks for the irony
0 likeswell said honestly. it’s crazy how I’ve gotten to a point where i agree with a literal prehistoric green peppa pork but i ain’t complaining
0 likesThis is like that Garfield meme "You are not immune to propaganda, a̸̧̢̺̬͕̬̟̼̳̲̖̩̩̦̯̟̤̹̹̯̺̞̣̓̃̂̇͌̍͌̅͂̆̓͛̀̓͆̐̆̾̏̈́̒̽̔͐̌͑̉̂͆̏̔͗͊̒̂̋͌͘̕͝͝͝͝͠ͅͅn̵̢̡̢̡̡̛̜̳̰̬̝͎̬͔̰͈̥̙̻̘̥͍̪̣͈̼̺̼̝͓̘͖̦̻͍̱͈̮̳͖͙͍͛͂̍̓̆̂̀͌͌̐́̋́̓̔͗͌̇̅̊͐̿̍̀͘ͅͅḓ̶̡̢̡̛̤͓͕̹͕̟̭͇̖̣̯̝͚̹͖͖̺̲̤̯̬̮͖̰̻̼̘̼̹̤̰̟͔̘̫̼͕̦͌̀́͊͌̆̌͐̈̐̐̇̀͛̄̉̓̐̌̀͑͐̾̃̈́́͋̄̃̉̃̑̌̒͊̅̈̀̀͛͑̾̀̆͛̇̚̕͘͜͜͜͜͝͝ͅ ̷̧̨̡̡͈̟̻̣͚̻̥̭̙̞̖̜͖̝͕̩̼̤͍̭̦̫̳̬͈̖̤͔̼̤̞͖̜̻͎͙̬̰̂͊͜ͅý̴̡̡̨̛̺̩̝̙̥͕͓̦͉̗̱͙̳̭̘͓̈́̆̃̈́̏̈́͌́̓̈̄̎͒̓̀̀̂̒̀̐̒̋̇́̈̒̾̕͝͝͝͝ơ̶̡̨̨̯̘̟͚̝̭̲̥̰̥̗̰̯̫̜͙̪͍̱̥̳̥̥͙͓̭͍̦̹̞͈̬͍͔̍̍͂̍̍͑͗̌̅̈́͌̓́͛̀͋̂̆̌̂̏͌̆͗͆̃͐̋̄̉̽̇̂̃̑͂͝͝ư̸̡̡̧̨̡̨̢̢̢̛̖̲̗̗͕͙͓͍͍̦̹͉̻̗̩̟͕̮͚̥͓̲̳̣͈̲͎̳̺̦͕͓̙̒͆̋͆̈̎̃͂̊̍̈́̽̃̿͆͗̈́͛̇̈́͂̓̓̈̾̋͊̂̕̕̕͜͠͝͝͝͠ͅͅ ̸̟̓̅̋̋̀͌͋̎̾̋̇͒͊̋̐̅̏͐͌͐͑̑̀̈̃͐͑̒̍̽̈́͆̇̉̕̚̚͝͝n̷̡̨̛̛̙̯̩̫̖̮̜͇̻̖̥͇͍̱̯̳̤̪̭̭͙̱͕̗̘̗̪̫̭̙̬͖̟͆͛͗͂́͋̐̈̇̓̀̃̈́̓̈͘͜͜ͅͅȩ̸̧̢̢̛͙̹̣̻̥͕̗̤̯̭͙̝͎̼̼̝̖̭̹̳̝̹̞͔͎͈̰̦̝̪̣̠̩̤̍̄͊̓̏͒̅̂̈́͐̍̽̂͂͂́͊͋͐́̓͐͛͂͂̏̐̉̊̎͘̕͘͝͠ͅv̸̨̨͎̗̻̖̮͖̫̺̱͔̝̬̲͙̱̯̙͎͚̰͒̅̾̇̑͜ͅĕ̷̢̡̡̛̝̖͎̘̬̠͈̱̳̼̲͔̹̹͙̩̤̞͍̪̤͖͚̝̰̫̩̦̘̪͔̬̤̹͙͖̼͖̳̫̪͙͕̈̓̔́̐̇͑̉̏̈́͆̍̾̃͛́̎͆̄̂̃͌̍̒̂̒̓̉̔͂̄̈́́̎͐̚͘͜͝͝͠ͅͅr̴̰̤̬̪̼͚̀̈́ͅ ̸̨̨̢͉͓̝͇͖̰͈̲̹̬͖̜̖̣̻̎̽́͆͗̓͆̇̅͑͒͗̍̂̒͐͂̉̍̾͐̀̊̌̉͛͌͊̌͊̑̎̌̓͐̈́̂͆͑̈́̏̑͝͝͝ͅͅw̷̛̛̖̟͚̣͈͔̗͔͈̟̞̮̪̟̐̓́̽̀̔̃͌̾́̄̎̔͗̒̅̈́̆̿͐̿́̍̓̈̈́͊̽̈́́̉̀̅̏͊͒̆̓͘̚͜͝͝͠͝i̷̢̧͈͚̟̬̼̫̱̣͓̝̹̮̯͛̾̀͒̽̽͠l̸̡̹̹͓̯̹̤̠̱͔͉̺̙̮̗͚̙͇͎̎͂͊̌̐̋͑̌́̏̅̃̅̐̈͋̈̽̃͂̾̾̌̈́̌͐̈͊̏̌̈́͊̏̅̈́͂̄͌̔̔̒͒͂͘͝͝͝͝l̴̢̨̡͖͕͓̲̗͓̲̫̣͔̼͇͔̩̟̻̥̳̠̝̞̯̻̯͚̪̈́̊́͒̇̓̔̒̒͐̂̓̅̍̂̋̋̄̋́̑͗̆̓̓̄̈́̃̾̐̈́͛͌͐̉͐͗́͂͗͐̚̚͜͠͝͝ ̸̡̨̢̺͖̺̘͓͔̟̱̥̹͍̺͍̤̩̖̥̗͓͚͔̯̫̼͍̫̀̀̍̿̍͌͋̉͗́̐̂̍̎̌͗̀́́̀̀͒͒͂̽̓̋͌̓͋͆͂͒̾̋̀͊͆̂̎̾̓̒̓͑̈̍̾̊͂̕͘̕͜͠͝b̶̡͔͍̻̬̗̥̲̻̼̣̀̆̐͜ḝ̶̡̮͙͔͚̬̫̫͖̦̯̦̠͈̰̤̗̻̭̟͉̞̺̭͖̗̠̟̫͙̱̭̯̹͎̃͐̊̃̇͜͠."
0 likes@asimhussain8716 thank you for the suggestion
0 likesWhy do u love being manipulated?
0 likes@@Rendag. Yes and no. If you’re consuming it passively, the onus of fact checking isn’t on you. But if someone is gonna make it their personality to go hog-wild in the anti Mr Beast side, then yes. You should at least fact check. What an abysmal world it would be if public outrage were fueled by factually dubious claims. This doesn’t only apply to hating Mr Beast, but to also treating him like a saint, which was the case up till this year. People were humiliated for even insinuating he’s not an angel.
0 likesTLDR: You don’t need to fact check if you’re just consuming this drama for entertainment. If you switch to an ACTIVE role by causing a fuss/slander online, then at least fact check what you regurgitate. And people need to stop this annoying binary where you unconditionally defend someone then suddenly switch sides and unconditionally slander the same person. Always be nuanced and non-parasocial.
NormalGODS...?
0 likes@@UsernameUsername0000just saying paul brothers
0 likesI know how you feel, and I'm sorry to say, this is in fact another load of garbage slop.
0 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
You should just stop listening to this stuff, and honestly anything anyone says about anything really, at this point lol. Just get off the internet and read a book my guy lol.
0 likes@Cyntaria at this point you really just gotta accept that we're kinda doomed, thr only way to stop this in my opinion is to stop watching or do more ressearch
0 likesI hope to god this is sarcasm or a comment about how stupid the internet is and not a real person proudly admitting this...
0 likesLevel 100 sheep
0 likesThis is probably a joke but in all seriousness if you can’t form your own opinion on something than you shouldn’t have an opinion on it at all
Same. I was awfully gullible to a really annoying degree for me, like if some youtuber says something is true that I don't have any evidence against, I'll 100% believe them
0 likesAnd this is the mindset that most people had, hinestoy it's not like people are stupid but are too busy to give a shit in the first place
0 likesblindly believe your ideals shirou
0 likesFr 😂
0 likesThis video is wrong because my pet gerbil said so, also the creator of the video eats pineapple pizza and so that's proof that they are wrong. (This is a joke, to be clear)
0 likes@@UsernameUsername0000 No it isnt. Are you going to fact checkt all of the point of this 1:27:33 Video? I dont think so
0 likesJust dont support mrbeast, hes got enough money to do good and way too much money to do bad already
0 likesAlways criticised borh of em
0 likesThis always happens like clockwork. Ppl just need to stop taking this internet stuff so seriously. Me and a friend were just making jokes throughout the dog pack video and I think more ppl need to be like that. You’re a third party and don’t need to pick sides. The court of public opinion can also be loud and wrong if they dislike the person being accused enough
0 likesI hope this was meant as satire
0 likesremember people saying that it was so obvious mr beast was doing all this? they look flippin stupid rn lol
1 likeyou're actualy me wtf
0 likes@@UsernameUsername0000yup
0 likesI totally agree with you bro😭
0 likes@Wddlestrm you're on the left side of the IQ graph
0 likesSame bro
0 likesshouldnt blindly believe anyone if its too much for you just dont pick sides that will help everyone
1 likethe shirou pfp is so contradicting and hilarious while reading your comment
1 likeFact check is very important. Facts don’t lie, although it’s difficult to distinguish that from fake news, hence why you need to check the sources used.
0 likesThis is so beautifully put thank you sir
0 likesliterally me😭
0 likesFR
0 likesI haven’t thought of it that way. I’ve made fun of DogPack meatriders before but I never thought about people having trouble with media literacy. Thank you for the fresh perspective.
0 likes@@UsernameUsername0000 literally when
0 likesI was kind of suspicious of dog packs video but I convinced myself to believe it because everyone else believed it and now I regret that
0 likesLiterally the dream situation in a nutshell
1 likei hope youre trolling
0 likesWere all sponges fr💀
0 likesI just don’t trust anyone anymore
0 likes@@UsernameUsername0000if dogpack published these videos withou the Ava stuff coming out, it wouldn’t have gotten literally any traction. And the Ava stuff probably wouldn’t have gained much traction if it happened any other year imo
0 likesAt the end of the day when you shut down your compuret all of this internet bs doesnt matter. Its just for some short entertainment nothing to even ponder about for more then 5 seconds or take sides in lol.
1 likeHell yea bruda, that's the way of the herd here on this thing we call the internet!
0 likes@@Wddlestrm
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
One of the most true comments ive ever read
0 likesBusted YouTube drama method 2024 ** Not patched **
0 likesPlease don’t go voting
0 likeshi shirou emiya
3 likesWhy does this actually sound like shirou lmaoo
2 likesI think it's just how the internet drama cycle goes. Especially since few have the time and energy to dedicate looking into everything and anything.
2 likesI blindly believe dogpack because I already hated Mr beast lmao so any slander against him seemed justified. I guess I have a couple less reasons to hate him now. A lot of those allegations seem stupid now so maybe if I didn't hate Mr beast I would have been neutral about it like many people who questioned the whole thing. Lesson learned.
2 likesI’m with you, bro. I don’t even know what to believe anymore. 😭
2 likesand that's how you should NOT do on all those comments, I get it, it's tiring, but always be skeptical and objective, make questions, there are awful people who will always take out of context almost anything. so please, be skeptical!
1 like@@UsernameUsername0000 that's true but it is parasocial stuff at work and what MrBeast represents to them - rich people actually being nice and genuine and wanting to give back. That's a genius brand, but not a real person. And while I personally wasn't surprised, being a more cynical leftist, many people felt genuinely disappointed and hurt. They worshipped him so much, now all those feelings have to go somewhere. Some are practicing denial to cope, others are embracing hatred, and while I have no compassion towards rich assholes I don't think anyone deserves to be cancelled unless they're doing hate speech that actually harms more people, so even Jimmy deserves better. But whatever lol.
2 likesI usually just don't have an opinion until i research the topic.
1 likeI feel this in my very soul
1 likeYou and me both honestly. I have seen SO MANY drama and it's INCREDIBLY hard to keep up with everything. Its mentally exhausting actually, because who can you possibly believe at this point? Sometimes its stupidly obvious but other times it isnt. But the biggest problem is. YOU. CAN'T. IGNORE. ALL. THE. DRAMA! There is literally drama in every freaking corner! This is the "theme" for 2024! Every single month there is either a youtuber who royally screwed up with.... You know. Or there is a youtuber who did the most stupidest acts in public I may add! You know who I'm talking about. 2024 is THE year for the internet drama I'm telling you! 😮💨 I can't wait till 2024 is over honestly.
7 likesfuck that's poetic, I'm stealing ur modus operandi
0 likes@ people like you who’s thinking this is entertainment is why the world is so sad
1 liketbh I trust no one.
3 likesnot mr beast nor dogpack.
@@litguru4748 to anyone here, as someone who studies history, do not choose any side. You go on a side as far as you agree with the interpretation. some allegations are more likely to be true than others, accept those, but don't trust all of them. accept that mrbeast has done charity and value that, but do not think he is a perfectly good person. there is no in the middle, there is no on one side, and there is no queen of england. you just have to be at a reasonable point between likely, unlikely and false.
33 likesWhy care at all right? This is just entertainment and first world problems. You don't even have to take a side for this to be entertaining.
14 likesYes, since the situation doesn't really affect your life, and your opinion isn't gonna have an impact to your situation. There's no point doing research into this, unless you're gonna have something to gain, it's more important you focus on more important things.
21 likesProven enough that videos and audios displayed in a controversy are unreliable depending on its reveal and clarity. Just because they exist in a form of a media as 'irrefutable' doesn't mean it tells the real, full story, and can be fabricated in some sort of way.
2 likesIt’s ok, because not many people actually take any of this seriously, they see the videos, meme on it for a while, then move on. If you really cared about the situation just do your own research on things
23 likes@@sikul3237 just because you are correct, doesn't mean you are right
11 likesI felt this comment in my soul.
19 likesBased Shirou
18 likesProps to you for being honest with yourself
59 likesme too
8 likes@@UsernameUsername0000I've never forgiven anyone for more than scamming children with illegal auctions, talking inappropriately in chats with minors or profiting off crypto scams, all while acting like he is the most charitable person in the world and is actively losing money. His partnership with known crypto scammer Logan Paul should already tell you he doesn't care about anyone or anything other than money.
1 likeyour fear is what cancel culture operates on. you do not want to be the one on the hot seat so you constantly echo allegations you hear from someone else, and instead of apologizing and learning and growing when youre wrong you just point the finger at someone else. genuinely disgusting behavior, stop being a coward and learn to face your fears. you are making everyone else suffer by giving power to this toxic chonically online over involved situation with your fear. stop caring what people think
0 likesthis is genuinely sad for the future of the world that the youth simply wants to turn their brains off and believe celebrities and people with loud voices rather than grow a spine and learn media literacy. and all just to fit in with a group of people who would eat you alive if they considered you to be opposition? what is wrong with you creatures bro
0 likes@@UsernameUsername0000 No one has any positions anymore, really. Half of this comment section is admitting that they "fell for it" with dogpack's videos. Who wouldn't believe him? He vaguely showed proof and called out patterns we've subconsciously known for a while! It's gotta be true. That is what we all think, and will continue to think again because its simply the easiest thing we can do in such a chaotic world. Go with with the flow or drown in the waves. That's how it always was, and always will be.
0 likesThis was oddly deep
67 likesI’m pretty sure you’re being partially sarcastic but I swear this is exactly how the internet operates. People used to defend MrBeast to death, and now they want nothing to do with him. They’ve forgiven other people for much less.
650 likesFr tho
101 likesfor the dogpack firing audio, a source on that would help a whole lot. AI voices, including one you point out in this video have made snippits of audio borderline useless as evidence
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Literally what the government does we need people who follow blindly cos we need the support.
0 likesIt's probably real. Sourced from Mr Beast's PC where he keeps all the employee blackmail material.
1 like@benevans8674 what about the mr beast ai voice with the stutter where Jake weddle proved it was ai, super convincing ai clip if yku didn't know it was ai man you have no clue how much ai has been improving 😂😂😂😂
0 likes@benevans8674 No, AI has progressed wildly in the past year. AI voices has already been used as false evidence in the court of law, and thankfully was caught through further examination of the raw audio file. But the recording itself you cannot tell.
2 likes@@shadowed69I am a bit suspicious about this that it only appears here and not everywhere
4 likesconsidering he talked to mr beast employees i'll just assume he got it from them straight up. but yea ai is an issue
1 like@@Chastity_Belt You should actually record all your HR meetings, HR is not your friend, they are there to keep the company working, and having proof might help down the line.
6 likesPretty weird that this termination video only shows up months later for this specific video discrediting Dogpack...when they could have used it months ago (if it existed and wasn't AI generated) when Dogpack first started his accusations.
10 likes@@keatonwastaken Well deep fakes are kinda easy to make and showing no sources is what dog pack did, so show sources when discrediting someone to let people know if its a legitimate source, look at what Johnny samoli did with his 'girlfriend' with ai. And given there's plenty of voice recording of him it would be easy to get audio, and I too want a source to know where this even came from, if its an employee or hr themself that recorded it.
0 likesIts also...he literally goes over ai voice being used to trick people so you'd think as he finds things he'd source them so its not dog pack accusations all over again....
@@Chastity_Belt Most places require terminations be recorded if the termination is a result of misconduct. This is to protect the organization in case someone tries to sue for wrongful termination.
10 likesHey genius making up AI videos like that? Good way to open yourself up to a lawsuit
0 likes@@AshraNashal52 well, maybe
0 likes@@Chastity_Belt I discretely record every conversation I have with HR. HR doesn’t exist to help you, lol.
22 likesFor an ai voice to sound that good would need a lot more footage plus you can hear a range of emotions that ai voices are terrible at recreating, it’s pretty obviously real lol
11 likesWho even records HR conversations lol? For what?
13 likes@@TheTrueBlueOnewell the guy literally admitted it was him talking in this same video ur commenting on? are u dumb?
1 likeI am a banana
3 likeshonestly at this point it doesn't matter if that audio snippet is real or not considering everything else. dogpack is a sick and lying bastard and i thats how i saw him ever since the rosanna video. not to say mr beast is innocent either lol. why didn't mr beast explain all this himself and save him the trouble? probably bc he does have something to hide
0 likesImagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.
0 likesSources: trust me bro
50 likesIn all seriousness, just become neutral until all of the drama ends and we get to see all of the people gets held accountable for their actions.
@@keatonwastakenyeah thats why he asked for a source
191 likes"it's AI" is also a convenient way to discredit reality
41 likesliterally this, anybody could fake a voice and use it as "evidence"
139 likesWhat about the raccoon being a paid actor? We have to answer the real questions
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@haxie4516 You replied to me, you were the one lying about, "it's behavior is normal according to actual wild animals." When it's obviously not. Your doing exactly what Mr.Beast is doing, you are unable to attack my argument so you attack my character.
0 likesIf you can't manage a simple discussion, than I suggest getting off the internet, little bro.
Also BTW liking your own comments is a bad look.
@@PalauBallEdits He wasn't being dead ass. He was insiuating that it wasn't a wild raccoon like the video claimed it to be. And that it was kind of animal abuse too. "paid actor" is just his way of telling y'all that at least somebody got money for bringing in a raccoon.
0 likes@Count_bleck_T
1 likeWild overreaction dude. I just replied that a bunch of animals behaviour researchers said it didn't exhibit any behaviours of being a domesticated one.
I didn't lie, weirdo.
Why are you getting so heated over this? Literally just asking for more info, and you're tearing my head off. Wtf.
Also, petting an animal doesn't mean it's a domesticated one lmao, idiots on YouTube pet wild animals all the time. MrBeast and co are hardly the most intelligent out there, and the stunts they've done have been dangerous at times. Them petting a wild animal would be one of the least dangerous things they've done lmao.
Yikes.
@haxie4516 bro you really believe they pet a wild racoon? A WILD RACOON. Stop lying on the internet little bro, 😒. Why are you even attempting to defend such a blatantly false narrative. The racoon wasn't wild, they pet the damn thing in the video.
1 like@@Count_bleck_T
1 likeIntriguing, as all of the animal behaviour researchers that I've seen speak about the matter have all said that it didn't exhibit any signs of it being a trained or domesticated raccoon
Yeah, the Raccoon was domesticated. Which would make sense since it didn't run off at the first sound the mr.Beast crew made. (They aren't exactly quiet)
1 like@@reaperz5677
1 likeNah, Dogpack's video was full of unserious BS that the MrBeast "team" or whatever have never denied, and had actually pointed out in BTS stuff that shows how they did certain CG or whatever.
His initial video came off as nitpicky and petty.
MrBeast is, at the very best, wildly incompetent and negligent, but more likely there's some malice there, but the point that MrBeast's PR manager made about Dogpack being fired after a month and him doing this because he's spiteful is almost certainly accurate.
Even though his video series on the matter has raised some really important and serious points, Dogpack is not some good guy, and he's certainly not doing this out of the goodness of his heart.
@@MikeTheMaster102 His point was that "MrBeast's videos aren't really as "real" as you think it is". Whether or not the raccoon was real is kind of moot (although he was an actor, obviously. There's no way ANYONE is sticking their hands next to a potentially rabid animal), because the whole point of that segment was that "These videos have glaringly fake shit in them, yet MrBeast's team denies it".
5 likesThere’s no way this is for real, it’s so absurd i refuse to believe it
1 like@@PalauBallEdits wait actually?
0 likes@@Deimos-qz1bx in a tweet he backed up the statement about the raccoon being a paid actor (by saying it was a paid actor its not like he had evidence) so im pretty sure he was being serious
0 likesStucky explains it in one of his videos
1 like@@procrastinatorextraordinaire the raccoon was actually for real
0 likes@@Deimos-qz1bxno wtf
0 likesI met him before. He said he was just moving out and jimmy asked him if he wanted to be in a video before he left
8 likes@@PalauBallEdits Wait he was being deadass??
4 likesthe raccoon was an actor basically, it was a trained raccoon you can rent, just the monkeys on old movies
37 likesOriginally when I watched dogpack I thought it was a joke but then I realized he was being deadass
60 likesOng
9 likes@@honeybadger7764 frfr
0 likes@@honeybadger7764
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Are you really gonna question that raccoons claim to fame? My man's prolly got a mansion by now
157 likesThis ain’t seem right how did he get a audio recording of dogpack getting fired while coffeezilla could not even get in contact with a employee
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@ speaking absolute facts
0 likesIt is all a mess
0 likesBecause coffeezilla wanted to investigate solely the crypto problem, which mr beast might be in the wrong for. Meanwhile mr beast found soggy investigation to be more benefitial to him.
0 likesIt's easy when you're being paid by a crisis management team to make a video slandering the guy who opened the floodgates on your client. Mr Beast probably keeps all sorts of blackmail to silence his previous employees.
1 likemfs be defending fraudpack404 until their death
0 likes@@agamerdude7596 My line of comments under the allegation Videos when they came out was. Dogpack is talking BS and all the content creators making videos on this are taking part in a big circeljerk to get some views. Maybe dont assume someones standtpoint on an issue when they are only making a factual statement without any evaluation or jugment.
2 likes@@Telendil And? Does this prove Dogpack is a morally good person that exposed Mrbeast for the good of humanity? NO, it proves all of them are no better than each other, this does not matter in the first place, because the evidence already suggests they are all not innocent
0 likesHe was invited by Mr.Beast ... coffeezilla gets sued by people working with Mr. Beast. Not so complicated.
5 likes@@Sircowcosmic "Random youtuber" Do you realize Soggy Cereal had exposed Airrack? a partner of Mrbeast? And was also a guy who researches on topics like this even before this saga?
1 like@@Sircowcosmic "Random youtuber that came out of nowhere" Do you realize Soggy Cereal had exposed Airrack? a partner of Mrbeast? And was also a guy who researches on topics like this even before this saga?
0 likes@Sircowcosmic and yet more things keep coming up lmao
0 likes@@pixelreflectorpro everything is essential out his time to respond was a month ago
0 likes@@Sircowcosmiche said multiple times before he's going to respond when everything comes out.
0 likes@TheTrueBlueOne Because like I said, Coffeezilla seems to make actual allegations with some kind of evidence but even he couldn't say for certain, the crypto allegations would need likely need a legal investigation done into them, not a youtuber. The dogpack allegations are easy to respond to because they're blatant, malicious lies, there's something to the crypto scams it seems.
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOne That’s what im saying a innocent man would prove he’s innocent
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOne that’s what I’m saying a innocent man would prove he’s innocent and not ignore it and not respond at all.
1 like@ I’d argue the crypto things MrBeast is involved in weighs a lot more than most of the things DogPack exposed, so why would no MB want to come forward to prove his innocence there?
1 likeThe situations are different. Coffeezilla doesn't make allegations without evidence to back them up, so he'll be struggling to make contact with an employee properly because it'll be caught up in legal red tape whereas when it comes to people talking to Soggy about Dogpack, people will be much more willing to speak because Dogpack is blatantly, provably lying, I mean if you watch this video in its entirety, nearly every single accusation gets disproven, Dogpack is malicious and vindictive, and always has been. There's legitimate criticisms of Mr Beast, Dogpack simply should've never led the charge on the criticisms.
4 likesThere’s too much evidence backing up dogpack while this random YouTuber coming up and “debunking” dogpack doesn’t make sense with insider info does not make any sense
9 likes@@WhyThoOz it’s not about defending dogpack it’s about if mrbeast actually did the stuff he said and with mrbeast not responding at all and how this guy got insider info while people like coffeezilla could barely even get in contact with a employee coffeezilla is a much more reliable source than a random YouTuber that came out of nowhere
16 likes@@somethingsomething404 yeah, something something "the investigator that i secretly paid for found me innocent and my critic is talking bullshit" ahh video
10 likesBru I'm neutral in all this, but yall are on dogpack's sack too much now. Mrbeast is literally doing what dogpack has been doing for the past few months and getting his own people on his side, fairs fair🤷🏾♂️ I don't get why yall would defend dogpack for his lies on mrbeast but bash mrbeast for getting a youtuber to defend him, especially when dogpack literally got rosanna or whatever her name is to pull up and back HIM up and report him to the FBI for something that obviously wasn't even true🤣
7 likesJust stay neutral, it's not by force to choose a side, especially when both sides are riddled with corruption and lies
@@vices8019 atrocities that yall are just blindly believing even when yall get info that dogpack is NOT a trustworthy person (neither of them are btw, which is why you shouldve just stayed neutral and not be so naive in the first place🤷🏾♂️)
0 likes@@somethingsomething404so clearly financial incentives to make MrBeast looks good, good I could ignore this video. I hate bribes like this.
17 likes@@rileyn54 its definitely this, notice how the things he criticises is just the "less evil" things like the lunchly. seems mr beast and co decided to use it as a scapegoat to cover up their other atrocities
18 likesVery valid point, kinda seems like Soggy’s a hired insider making this just to put MrBeast in a more positive light. I mean, the messaging multiple creators to react to this one video and asking them to make videos about it on their own channels just seems like a corporate version of damage control to be honest.
68 likes@@TheTrueBlueOnemr beast flew soggy out to the US to film this.
59 likesThey’re not even denying that.
They even said Jimmy paid for his flight.
62 likesDon’t forget this small YouTuber took a $2000 flight to make this video…
my theory is that he had exclusive access from mrbeast with interviews from employees and mp3 archives hidden in company files
63 likesthere's NO way they would just let anybody waltz in like that
Rest in peace MorePegasus.
1264 likes2024-2024
Death from overwork
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@@NathanielTCyou don't speak for me
0 likesDon’t forget westjett
0 likes@Jordanisokatnth it's a meme that MorePegasus is his official name now
0 likes@@bennytennyson then I recommend referring to him as "Pegasus" to avoid confusion, or that will just confuse 90% of people watching this because they only discovered him because of his absurd content. You don't see me referring to mrbeast as "Mrbeast 2"
0 likes@Jordanisokatnth who says I'm hating. I'm a fan even before I knew his second channel
0 likesstop hating on him bro, its not even his main channal
0 likes@@christopherhu7189 wa bi bo bo
0 likes@@SleepingShade Personally to me I wouldn’t think so, my issue stems from the fact they’re just being assholes to someone who believes in Religion.
0 likesThere’s a difference between “I don’t believe in god” and “gtfo you dirty religious zealot”
@@conscripthornet4430 Not gonna lie, you should also grow the fuck up emoji user. Bro is using emoji's in his comments, absolute cringe.
0 likes@@JesusPlsSaveMe by the Thrown, the Emperor protects
0 likes@@conscripthornet4430 On behalf of all athiests, I am sorry for this persons behavior, lol.
1 like@@conscripthornet4430 im not atheist
0 likes@@jamesrgamesoffical dudes most likely a bot so they wont
0 likes@@conscripthornet4430 The giant Spaghetti Monster Loves you, please repent and follow the true religion.
1 like- There. Is that better?
@@JesusPlsSaveMeshut up
0 likes@@conscripthornet4430but if I say “stop believing in god he’s fake” it’ll be bad then?
1 like@@JesusPlsSaveMe for me, tuna melt sandwiches are jesus. And he has saved me. I love tuna melts
1 likeNo one’s ever really gone
0 likes@@rocbot9479 Atheists seeing numerous random off-topic comments: "meh"
1 likeAtheists seeing a single religious comment: "NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD, YOU CAN'T POST THAT HERE!!!!!"
Y'all gotta get a life if you're pressed over a single religious comment, grow the fuck up guys 😭
ITS OVERR
1 likeDon't forget WestJett too
4 likesover work? Someone else always puts in all the "work" for his videos.
3 likesI mean it's not really a big deal for sending love @simpingshrimp4791
0 likes@@CJGJprods Then he should stop commenting religious nonsense in non-religious videos!
4 likesBot@@JesusPlsSaveMe
0 likes@@CJGJprodsdon’t comment about religion on a non religious video
12 likes@@Smoiiny he not causing problems yet.
1 likehop off pegasus bro
0 likes@CJGJprods wanted to see hiw he would react but now that guy looks like a bot methinks
4 likes@@CJGJprods honestly just wanted to see how he would react lol
5 likes@@jamesrgamesofficalthen don’t reply to the comment
15 likes07
0 likes@@JesusPlsSaveMe i don't believe in Jesus lol
24 likes@@JesusPlsSaveMeNamo Amitabha
2 likesTo everyone in this chat, Jesus is calling you today. Come to him, repent from your sins, bear his cross and live the victorious life
31 likesYou look different iDubbbz
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He looks like the mix of iDubbbz and Dexter
0 likeswhat we do here is go back
0 likesNot enough n words
0 likes"I'm gay" ❌
0 likes"I'm bi" ✅
if idubbbz didnt become a cuck
0 likesHis gf finally let him go outside for a bit before bed time
2 likes@@jolek368
0 likesJesus is the only way to salvation and to the Father.
Please repent today and turn away from your sins yo escape judgement 🙏🙏 There is no other way to get to the father but through him.
@@jolek368 he is much nicer now
0 likesIdubbz may have become a sad cuck of a man but Content Cop lives one. I want to remember the latter and the time Idubbbz was a legend.
0 likes@@purplebean8989 I think everybody who watched this video knows about that, because soggy was talking about the coffeezilla video
0 likesI'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
1 likeThey know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form
They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor
I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours
Life's a fight, but trust, I'm ready for the war
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king
Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring
See, I believe that if I see it in my heart
Smash through the ceilin' 'cause I'm reachin' for the stars
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
Highway to heaven, I'm just cruisin' by my lone'
They cast me out, left me for dead, them people cold
My faith in God, mind in the sun, I'm 'bout to sow (yeah)
My life is hard, I took the wheel, I cracked the code
Yeah (whoa-oh-oh)
Ain't nobody gon' save you, man, this life will break you
(Whoa-oh-oh) in the thick of it
This is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows (everybody knows)
They know me where it snows, I skied in, and they froze (yeah)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told (ooh-ooh)
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na-na-na-na, ay-ay)
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na)
I guess this is how the story goes
he's fluffier
1 likeAnyone would look a little beaten down after being under Anisa's thumb I'm sure but no need to call him out for it
0 likesCoffeezilla just uploaded a good video about this
1 likeScott Shafer mentioning iDubbbz in the comments of a Content Cop video made by Soggy Cereal most definitely wasn't on my 2024 bingo card
27 likes@@ShaferScott dang seeing Scotty boy in the comments section, my mind is blown. Make a crossover Soggy Shafer!
19 likes@@jolek368 well one of them isn't a cuck to start with
1 likeI see no difference
42 likesI dont trust mr. Beast i dont trust dogpsck hell i dont trust soggy. People online are not idols they are just people
862 likesEDIT im glad to see my commet is getting attention. Replies also help explain what I mean better
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@@TheTrueBlueOne Dogpack is far from imperfect if you watched the video, so is Mrbeast, they are both far from imperfect, both are shady, both are scumbags, both are exposing each other for selfish reasons
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOne "Dogpack isn't perfect" This is far from being imperfect, this is literally bias and misinformation, Mrbeast is not the great person the kids think he is, but most of the allegations made by dogpack are complete fabrication and bs
0 likesNone of them are innocent, nor the messiah, Dogpack isnt the messiah for bringing light to Mrbeast and Mrbeast isnt the Messiah for bringing light to Dogpack, Stop choosing sides and form your own opinion.
Soggy literally did not, he literally criticized Mrbeast multiple times too, illegal lottery, delaware, ava kris tyson, cryptozoo, lunchly, did you watch this video with your eyes closed and brain turned off?
@ sure DogPack isn’t perfect but MrBeast is literally taking advantage of Soggy by fabricating his “golden boy who has done no wrong” image again
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOne That still doesnt change the fact, that dogpack isnt the perfect exposer and is immune to criticism and is better than Mrbeast
0 likesThis is literally the edp445 situation all over again where both sides are wrong even the exposer
@@OtakuHustle This is pathetic honestly, do you even have a life to write all of that? Cause i am sure anyone with a life wouldnt write that only to be pathetic and wrong at the same time
0 likes@ you can do a quick Google search. Digital footprint exists
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOne That interview/audio section didn't sit well with me either. You're not gonna get confirmation from MrBeast employees that DogPack's a good guy. And if Jake made an AI voice that sounded pretty similar to MrBeast, who's to say DogPack's begging for the job isn't AI either?
0 likesI never saw the MrBeast comment tho.
I don't trust you
0 likesngl people have already started poking holes in this video already
1 like1. Why did MrBeast comment "Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol" and then quickly deleting it?
2. Why did MrBeast start mass forwarding this video to EVERY big commentary creator on YouTube and TikTok, begging for attention?
3. Soggy received full air travel coverage from a MrBeast affiliate to fly over to the US to conduct the interviews.
4. How did Soggy get access to all these Beast employees and especially the "leaked" DogPack audio files, when Coffeezilla couldn't get a single contact from MB?
5. Soggy has already seen what Jimmy has done in point 2 and has expressed disappointment that Jimmy has essentially turned this video into MB propaganda and a "get out of jail free card"
@@sarimniazi3192yes the only time that audio came up is suspicious af.
0 likesPersonally I've been waiting for Jimmy to address it, and him not doing it until now is just at this point weird.
0 likesI didn't fully believe Dogpack/Jake either, just waiting for a full response from all sides and noticing all the contradictions myself.
Real, we have no idea how any of these people truly are behind the screen and they are basically strangers to us. All three of them could just be shitty people that want to stir up drama on the internet or profit off of attention. Its best to just make up our own opinion instead of wasting our time on switching sides over and over again or blindly defending one side of an internet drama.
0 likesGood. Keep questioning. Make your own conclusions.
4 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@sarimniazi3192You can't make a claim like that in the first place because it's complete headcanon.
0 likesHe also isn't even in the clear according to soggy, did you even watch the end? Even soggy pointed it out. I don't know why you're accusing him of this BS when this is what Soggy is known for in the first place, he also literally was skeptical of Dogpack for months not because of he got paid for it.
Honestly with the amount of actual proof in this video it debunks most of Mrbeasts allegations, then again he still has lunchly and crypto and other stuff.
1 like@@adamusprime403 well put
1 like@OtakuHustle thanks man, now atleast I dont have to watch this video. It looks like you've written down its main points and flaws. I hope more people get to read your comment.
1 likeWay too many times will I blindly believe someone just because they said it and they are popular. You should never fully trust someone you don't know, but you shouldn't be paranoid either
0 likesHonestly bro this video is just plain bad and doesn't really address any of the main arguments in each allegation. Doesn't help with the fact that a self proclaimed detective continuously acts obnoxiously and condescendingly needing to insult his opponents intelligence every 5 minutes.
6 likes1. Delaware: Soggy finally addresses delaware's name rumors but not the sex offender backgrounds, the interview with garett further strengthens this as "just" rumors but didn't mention what it was related to, however jake the viking addressed on his tweet about the sex offender allegations and claimed no charges were pressed so nothing's been proven or disproven.
2. War crimes: We only have anecdotal evidence of this event since no video was released. Soggy claims Jake Weddle talks highly about Mr Beast but completely sweeps under the rug the fact that Weddle admitted to accepting Jimmy's compensation (he claimed he used Jimmy's "blood" money to fund his work on twitter) after dogpack's second video went viral. So Weddle was talking shit about Jimmy before and now highly AFTER he was paid?
3. Illegal lottery 3: Soggy claims dogpack purposely hiding the "free entry" description, however the main complaint was customers not receiving the shirt after purchase, which should be easily proven false by MrBeast if he showed tracking numbers.
4. CGI: Honestly it does kinda look like CGI, and I'd understand why people would believe it is so, after all soggy did admit the car was edited from red to blue. Regardless, this is not very important.
5. Feastables: So I thought this was very easy to see for myself, I just went to walmart's app, compared the 2 bars, Hershey's creamy milk chocolate (45g) and Feastables milk chocolate bar (60g), I live in Canada so the serving size is 1 bar not 1/2 as shown by soggy. I compared hershey's at 45g with feastables at 45g/60g and this is how they differ:
Hershey creamy milk chocolate (45g)
Calories: 220
Fat: 13g
Saturated Fat: 8g
Carbs: 27g
Sugars: 26g
Feastables milk chocolate bar (at 45g/60g)
Calories: 240
Fat: 14.25g
Saturated Fat: 8.25g
Carbs: 26.25g
Sugars: 22.5g
The difference is absolutely insignificant, given how a feastables bar is bigger than hershey's, it makes it ultimately unhealthier. I really found it stupid how soggy compared 30g of feastables with 43g of hershey's, of course it's healthier when it's half the bar. The only macro that feastables is lower in is the sugar content (45g/60g), which is insignificant because people don't buy "healthier" alternatives to save themselves 1-5g. For it to be significantly healthier it should be at least half the sugar content. Overall they are both the same and feastables is just as unhealthy as hersheys at 45g, and more when comparing bar to bar.
6. CP allegations: Here is when I lost all respect and credibility for dogpack (besides him collabing with rosana pansino and even renting a whole theater to watch a 1 hour long mr beast downfall documentary, yikes...) the claims were baseless, Rosana from day 1 has given 0 evidence for any of her claims, they are always screenshots or "I heard", they manipulated the group chat's content and fabricated a story of CP distribution. She started acting like a man child (or woman child), giving out childish responses when she was being called out on Dedrio's stream.
7. More collateral damage: 58 claimed at the end of the tiktok video that nothing was edited which is highly improbable given you HAVE to edit a gameshow AND video. Regardless, not a very important allegation. As for the 1 million dollar contestant it does seem like he did get rewarded so not much to say on that.
8. Mack: He's shown as a random contestant but is constantly seen in multiple videos and sometimes winning challenges. Given that someone allowed him to stay in the mansion implies he has connections, giving him some form of favoritism and advantage. In one of the games Mack won a car for being the first one to be disqualified, soggy seems to conveniently miss out on important context every single time.
9. For the iphone giveaway, regarding the pewdiepie clip, I think it was there to strengthen the point that giveaways are often deceitful and unethical. Giveaways can be easily faked, so the only way to disprove this is with tracking numbers and not more vague testimonial screenshots like soggy showed.
10. Locoya Hill: Given the lack of evidence and the removal of his video, it's hard to believe any of these claims are real, but it conflicts with the investigation letter uploaded by MrBeast on twitter. If they are innocent, why were they removed? Replacing CEO's in companies is huge. So I see why people would still raise suspicion. I'm also unsure if revealing that recording of dogpack's termination is legal lol, but it does explain why he's so salty and eager to take down MrBeast.
11. Moon scam: I don't really think it works on soggys favor the screenshot of a customer having to email a refund request for that incident only to receive it 6 months later. So did they refund everyone at all?
12. Safety measurements: The boys vs girls game argument was about fairness. Yes, of course you should prevent the spreading of covid, but by inserting employees that potentially know how the game works, contestants are at huge disadvantage, which diminishes the credibility and fairness of the game. If they wanted it to be truly fair, shoot the video when the pandemic is over. As for the raft video, there are no clear shots of crew members spending the night on the raft, the video clip shown of them being on a boat doesn't show the main members and doesn't prove they that they went back on the raft to sleep. So there could be some potential dishonesty there.
13. The 3 stupidest arguments from soggy:
Illegal lottery #1: Probably the biggest allegation from dogpack, claiming mrbeast made over a million dollars from that 1 stream where he promised every customer would receive a shirt personally signed by him and the rest of the crew. Unfortunately for him, his employee is caught falsifying his signature, then looks around with a guilty face while trying to cover the pen with his hand, while the guy next to him lits up his eyes and gives a "I think we got caught look", it doesn't matter if Jimmy "consented", he lied to everyone about the signatures being his. I don't know why anyone would use that argument unless it was used as a loophole in court. No one on their right mind would think scamming kids with falsified signatures is ok, soggy is delusional.
Pandemic interview: In his interview with one of the supposedly contestants meant to be on an abandoned video idea was supposedly given a split of a million dollars amongst the 24 other contestants out of the good heart of Jimmy? Like are you fucking serious? Jimmy is going through allegations for crypto scams, not paying hospitals, and illegal lotteries and now he's a fucking saint handing out tens of thousands of dollars for free. Great.
Investigation results: If you don't believe that soggy is a dishonest paid actor by now, he claims all of his arguments to align with the investigation led by a firm hired by Mrbeast himself, the letter is on twitter as of November 1st. The investigation was months long resulting in 2 very short, vague pages. It states: "As you are well aware, the Company has grown exceedingly quickly from a Youtube start-up compromised of a group of talented young individuals to a much larger entity. It is not uncommon that policies and practices essential in a mature company would lag behind commercial success." What is not common is for a law firm to excuse a licensed company from not following the law. Any licensed company is liable for knowing what is legal or not, it's absolutely inexcusable. The letter downplays the severity of the issue despite the changes being: Hire New Chief Executive Officer, Chief People Officer, General Counsel, and Chief Financial Officer. This is a complete wiping of HR.
In the end people like soggy make these kinds of videos for the same reason as dogpack and any other youtuber, it brings them clout and money. It just happens that shitting on MrBeast is a bit saturated and there is undiscovered opportunity on defending him. It would be hard for me to believe soggy is not a paid individual given the terrible arguments he comes up with and how mocking his tone is.
It really took you guy this long to figure this shit out lmao. You can look up to famous people, see them as inspiration if you want. But trusting their word, believing anything they say is stupid. Idolizing them as a bigger than the world, that they can do no wrong.
5 likesUnfortunately, this cycle will continue.
@@nathanaelager9763 bet
0 likes@@adamusprime403 this is what I wish more people would do
1 like@@nathanaelager9763yeah I can always trust you tho
0 likesPeople online are real people? I guess you would need something from one of these online people to affect or help you
0 likesU can trust me tho
1 like@@g_ggle-sect. honestly, for me, the situation got so big and there is so much fucking information on this that I just don't even wanna bother. Fuck mrBeast, apparently the other guy is not great too, I don't know almost anything about that, I dunno. It's just too much and I kinda don't care anymore
0 likesSo now when this video comes out saying everything I've believed in since the beginning but you guys just couldn't understand, suddenly now nobody wants to believe in EITHER side and if you pick either side you suddenly "treat everyone as your idol"? Bro... So you actually don't want to base anything on logic and facts just placate and follow the public narrative with no understanding for anything. Ok then. Just be an idiot then.
0 likeshonestly the best point of view
1 likethe only good take
1 likeThis is the most true statement anyone has ever said. Even famous people are just people, and we should stop pretending they are anything but
2 likesWell i think that that soggy is literally hired by mr beast to make this video, he's trying to neutralized the drama through someone else instead of addressing it directly. It's a win win situation for both soggy and mrbeast. Soggy gets all the views and money from the ungodly amount of ads that he put in it while trying to put mrbeast on the safe end even though he is guilty if majority of the stuff that dogpack mentioned.
4 likes@@J-BIRD000 I appreciate the kind words, it means a lot. I noticed in your prior comment, that you're very humble, and able to see how you are affected by the same issue. Which I agree with your sentiment, I believe we all are, it's just who and what we adopt an unhealthy parasocial relationship with. Which I know about unhealthy parasocial relationships VERY well, because of my Borderline personality, I have super unhealthy parasocial relationships with people.
1 like@@adamusprime403 you are one wise fello I gotta say
1 likeAGREE!!!
2 likes@@adamusprime403 well said
3 likes@@keatonwastaken great point, there needs to be nuance, if we don't trust anyone we begin to isolate ourselves mentally and fall into a sort of solipsism/dissociation. It's important to find a set of rules/tools that helps us decide who to trust, and we should always take into account if they might have underlying reasons, like biases, revenge, etc. along with just having the general wherewithall to only speak on topics we've spent time learning about, and are passionate about, instead of letting others to do the work for us. And always listen for loaded language, we shouldn't make it about trust, rather instead actually look stuff up and learn
8 likes"i don't trust anyone" is as dumb as trusting anyone blindly
12 likes@@pablopissacoproductions538 literally two different scenarios
17 likesYea I mean soggy is pretty hypocritical as well like criticizing that Jake only says that it’s ai afterwards tho soggy fakes the fbi part and he also took a clip from someone’s video presumably without their consent just like dogpack did which he took wrongly.
3 likes@@tanvirsourav83exactly, plus people shouldn't just be watching 2 opposing sides, they should research and look at ALL evidence and statements. But I blame this opposing sides issues as a consequence of American media and political system, along with the power it has on defining people's worldview. In a world where the most famous forms of media uses divisionist, us vs them, good vs evil mindset, along with 2 partyism, it leads consequentially to people unable to not put things through the same exact framework their entire lives encompass. That's why people started saying "SunnyV2 was right all along about Ava," despite SunnyV2 never going for the very public Red flags that ACTUALLY suggests Ava being an issue, instead he just used moralistic language surrounding his Anti-SJW anti woke worldview
9 likesBest to just make your own opinion but only after hearing the biased opinion of all sides
25 likes@adamusprime403 very ture. I'm guilty of it even, and it can destroy people when that said person does something
9 likesPeople often tie their morality to their favorite creators, and also develop intense and unhealthy parasocial relationships with said creators. It's sad, and I think a symptom to a larger epidemic at play
77 likesGreat video Soggy, but I just have some questions/points about your video. 1. The No Safety debunking; In your video, you talk about how Mrbeast's video productions were safe, and they took precautions. While this remains true for his videos, the same cannot be said about Beast Games. I feel like completely overlooking Beast Games was a major oversite, and this is where I think most of the unsafe allegations have been coming from. 2. The Feastables v. Hershey's stuff; In your video, you also talk about how feastables is still healthier than hershey's, but in my opinion, this isn't what most people have been mad at. The allegation was never "its unhealthier than hershay's", It was "You advertised it as healthy, but then switched it all up, not mentioning the downgrade is healthiness. In my eyes, this is where my gripes with feastables stems from, so yeah. 3. The allegations you chose to debunk; When pausing on the allegation board at the end of the video, I noticed that the things you chose were (in my opinion) not the main points. I feel like time was wasted on things like "Fake moon scam" and "Chandler illegally entered the competition" etc. I think by using these in your visual board, you are making your audience think that you debunked soooo much, but you really only went through 35-40% of the concerning allegations. Its about the quality, not the quantity of the allegations you debunk, as the bigger one you break, the more people you bring to your side. What and how you chose to present your information makes it seem like more was done, when you really mainly touched the tip of the iceberg. Anyway, thats my 2 cents, feel free to correct me of speak your mind. 👍
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@@shadowed69 saying something and confirming something is not the same thing
0 likes@@mishukyashuki8897really great counterpoints.
0 likesshould also mention, if dogpack was willing to blatantly lie about all this stuff, it should throw his credibility out of the window. even if some of his accusations were true (which they barely were, if at all). he framed many things as being worse as they were, as well as, again, blatantly lying.
op seems to be trying to defend him but it doesn’t work when hes now been shown to have a repeated history of lying. he shouldn’t be trusted whatsoever
@@pizzaman1720 you should. Those are some solid points
0 likes@@chandrasinha1010 Like yeah great dude.
1 likeI appreciate that you didn't just decided to agree with everything the video said just like almost everyone else here.
I appreciate that you decided to point out that even though Dogpack isn't a good person,portraying him as his portrayal here isn't the truth.
Ironically speaking,Soggy himself did the very thing he called Dogpack out for.
@@MusMahir-Gaming-xl1rg Oh well.
0 likesI just wanted to give a brief summary of Beast's allegation.
@@TheTrueBlueOne thanks :)
0 likes@@SilharaTheChosen sorry, I just didn’t feel like reading. No need to get that mad.
0 likes@@pizzaman1720 basically, Soggy waffled on and on about very minor allegations like "Chandler's cousin enters contest illegally" while completely dodging the bigger allegations like Beast Games to make it look like he done more work than he ACTUALLY did
3 likesHow else is this dude gonna make it into multi million view saga videos?
0 likes@@thegamerthatnoonewanted2621 👏👏
1 likeFinally, some logic 👏 Very well said. I'd love to know how much Mr Beast paid Soggy to post this
1 like@@SilharaTheChosen A lot of people have a lot of trouble reading comments that long that don't have any line breaks.
2 likesI kind of disagree with the beast games comment as imo its a completely seperate thing, just like the crypto allegations
0 likes@@pizzaman1720 You're seriously telling me you care enough to want to know what he said but not enough to read his words? It's 45 seconds of reading max you cannot be this cooked.
3 likes@shadowed69 he said Jaeke the Viking was an untrustworthy source
2 likesTo be fair, he does point out that he doesn't cover/isn't knowledgeable to cover everything at the end of the video and refers to other youtubers who have covered other topics, but I agree that there are definitely so many more allegations to investigate.
1 likeThe no-safety procedure is safely ensured for Jimmy Donaldson's video simply because he is the boss of the show, he runs it with all control. In the beast game on the other hand Jimmy stands as a statue to attract people and plan out ideas that MUST run through Amazon approval to maintain the required funding, Jimmy to Amazon is a toddler that is only on their list of partnerships because he was keeping an average viewership of 100M which is enticing for Amazon. What can be seen from this is that MrBeast is only the partner of the show yet all the blame is on him but the production team, human safety, and all other teams are Amazon employees whose numbers outright went over Jimmy's employees numbers by number fold.
13 likes"MrBeast will serve as host and will executive produce" - Mr Beast's role is to creatively produce and plan the show.
Ref: Prime Video Orders Beast Games From MrBeast and Amazon MGM Studios. (n.d.). https://press.amazonmgmstudios.com/us/en/press-release/prime-video-orders-ibeast-gamesi-from-mrbeast-and-?stream=top
While it is true MrBeast is also at fault, putting him 100% as the only reason is downright not true, the game show is an Amazon Prime Show, not a Mr. Beast Youtube video, he is merely a partner for a game show.
Secondly, Feastable was advertised as Healthier than Hershey, even in the Dogpack404 video he said the campaign was meant for Feastable to be a healthier alternative to Hershey's bar. Does it mean it's healthy? No, of course, it's chocolate, a sweet snack, and it takes a 10-year-old to know it's not healthy. Healthier than trash doesn't make it not trash. Nevertheless, this video was meant to "debunk" the Dogpack video not to "defend" MrBeast, the point dogpack made was that Feastable was not healthier than Hershey which was proven wrong so it conclude the point.
And finally, you can't judge allegations on whether or not it is serious more than each other, since more or less it has affected someone's life intentionally or not. Jimmy is a bad person for sure, but that doesn't make it justifiable to throw around lies of any sort that are on a defamation level.
Like for example: I made a lie about 2 people, one took his life and one brushed it off does that mean one was more serious? No. Defamation on some level can be as dangerous as murder, especially for someone with a higher social status.
@@ThaPinkGuy Except Soggy also re-writes the narrative to make Mr. Beast look better. Jake the Viking, Delaware's son in law, confirmed months ago that Beast knew Delaware was a RSO before hiring him.
20 likes@@thegamerthatnoonewanted2621 he covered everything there except for the beast games.
3 likes@@kunjalkasera4826Promotion of gambling to kids.
31 likesBreaking the U.S federal law.
No safety in beast games.
And much more.
Heyyy! I am just very uneducated on this topic; could you give an example of a serious allegation that he did not go through? Thanks.
0 likesOkay yeah I agree, even if not everything is true, there was a ton of things going on with the Mr beasts games plus overall, is a scum that guy to work with a Paul brother so, fuck dog pack for wasting the past few months and fuck Mr beast for tryna make us think their content and products are good
1 likeCould you summarize that? I don’t have the brain capacity to read that.
1 likeUnfortunately, this is because Soggy is trying to manipulate you in the exact way he claims Dogpack was trying to manipulate you. He cherry-picked those allegations to make it look like he disproved everything Dogpack said.
0 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
Great comment, split the points into paragraphs for better readability
46 likesi like how mrbeast commented "finally a video that isnt spreading lies about me" immediately after this video came out, thats such a red flag
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he still owns a company town, which does make him a super villain.
0 likesI mean hes kinda right? Hes still a scammer with the crypto thing and kris disgusting behaviour but that doesnt give you the right to just make up lie about him just to be popular like a certain fraud (dogpack) did
0 likesI mean, he technically isn’t wrong.
0 likesMorePegasus will be well fed for decades.
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@@JordanisokatnthBro still makes like a trillion videos, he’ll make enough
0 likesyoutube doesnt pay that well, maybe look at his response video?
0 likesRent ain’t free you know
2 likesNah he would be a Billionaire rn, his wallet is glazing
4 likeslol
2 likesYou know, this could be so easily avoided if MrBeast just RESPONDS. Even though he might be guilty for some accusations, him staying silent and covering it all up makes it looks guilty for ALL accusations.
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He did respond. This is his response. He hired a crisis management team, and that team hired Soggy to make a lame debunk video. That's why he has info no one else could get, because it was obtained directly from Mr Beast.
1 likeNot easy, best to make a Dream-like response instead of a Ukulele-like response if u get what I mean
0 likes@@shadowed69let's use our brains for a second, the stupidity of thinking mrbeast would reach out to soggy out of anyone he could reach out to with bigger followings is stupid, the reason he got these recordings is because he worked hard reaching out to people to get them, and even if mrbeast paid soggy the evidence for some of these claims still stands, mrbeast still isn't as terrible as people say
0 likesNo. If you've been on the Internet for a while, you'll know that is probably the worst thing he could do, because the court of social media has already deemed him guilty. Him letting stuff die down a lil before properly talking about it or even just avoiding it altogether is way better, especially since dogpack isn't even credible with the amount of lies and exaggerations he's had
0 likesThis is Mr beasts response. He paid to fly soggy to the US and gave him access to his employees…. This is a Mr beast video
1 like@shadowed69 This is the first time anyone actually reached out to them and didn't just use "trust me" anonymous sources which don't work if you aren't credible.
1 likeYou believing the word of the guy who never actually told them of the guy's history until much later when the person actually was kicked.
@@crypix the world be a cruel mistress :(
0 likesbut your pfp is cute, so that's something.
@@shadowed69 Damn if that's true then this whole video is just MrBeast propaganda :(
1 like@@crypix well, unfortunately, I think he was just paid to make this video :(
1 like@@shadowed69 But what does soggy gain from this aside from implying mrbeast paid him for this video?
0 likes@shadowed69 my man, you nailed exactly what i was thinking too!
1 likeThis video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. This is their response, hidden under the guise of "ripping into both Dogpack and Mr. Beast", even though he avoids or manipulates all the serious claims against Mr. Beast.
2 likesWhy do you think this is the first time we are seeing current Mr. Beast employees interviewed? Why do you think Mr. Beast is pushing creators to watch this video? Where do you think this Dogpack termination recording suddenly came from despite the fact that it would have been way smarter to release it when Dogpack first started his accusations? Assuming ya know, the recording in this vid isn't AI generated...
Also, soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@MrPickleGAMESNo reason to think that unless you got proof.
1 like@@MrPickleGAMES thats what i think too
1 like@@reaperz5677hiring an external company to investigate typically is a very honest way of doing it, that company is essentially staking there own reputation on not finding anything
0 likesHe’s just letting these morons like dogpack and Rosanna dig their graves deeper and deeper. It’s the same reason that the feds don’t just bust the low level street dealer. They follow them, see who they communicate with, allow them to get an entire picture of the conspiracy and then take them down with extreme prejudice. I guarantee you that sometime in the not so distant future there will be a statement from Jimmys company. That statement will be accompanied by a slew of lawsuits and criminal charges against everyone that Dawson dragged into this and tricked into committing multiple felonies.
0 likes@@reaperz5677 HE did not do that. he paid someone else, an "independent third party" to do it
2 likesPretty sure Mr beast help/ payed him to make this video. He’s using other YouTuber to speck for him
3 likesthere are many allegations which mr beast is infact guilty of.
4 likesi strongly believe that these sort of videos, like the one soggy cereal made, will just explode in number which selectively use a few facts to discredit dogpack WHILE this happens, mr beast will most likely get away with the initial allegations which WERE INFACT TRUE.
i feel there will be involvement of mr beast's PR team in the sudden increase of these sorts of videos which will try to discredit dogpack and cloud all over the actual shady and illegal stuff mr beast did.
@@reaperz5677 YouTube deleted my previous comment for some reason.
0 likesI was saying that an external investigation CAN happen if an employee or any victim of the company reports , but Idk if that will happen.
At this point everything would make him look guilty of the accusations.
0 likes@@reaperz5677 I do hope some external company does an investigation but I doubt that'll happen , unless someone from the inside reports the company or one of the alleged victims .
1 like@@YeeHeee He just did a major investigation and concluded that everyone in his company is not guilty of anything.
3 likesLike I'm sorry but if you think MrBeast is going to investigate his own corporation honestly is just... naive. Him saying something would at least put pressure on him to be more honest with any/all "internal investigations".
There’s legal action being taken over a bit of this as I recall, the reason he’s not spoken about anything is because he’s literally been advised not to
2 likesHe said he woudl respond once dogpack release his 3rd and final video but he never did
5 likesHonestly, I think it's kinda smart. They come out with a new accusation every week. He should wait until the dust has settled so he can address everything and not make a new video/post defending himself every week.
19 likesPlus his views are still fine and so is his monetization- he's doing just fine riding this controversy out.
However, the censorship is a little much.
he commented on this vid so maybe that counts but now he deleted the comment
6 likes@@crypix That's true , they maybe are trying to hide the loopholes they had in the company.
5 likes@@YeeHeee You're probably right, but the extreme censorship is still questionable.
43 likesYa know Mr.Beast is a big company, right? His response will take time as they have to look through every hole in the company to determine if the company is guilty or not .
39 likesHe’s doing the Streisand affect
15 likesThe believability of the video really becames zero when you are paid by Mr. Beast to do it.
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@@canislupus3655 It is actually easier to watch Chuds newest video from 15:00.
0 likes@@canislupus3655 He said this in interview with Chud logic (6:27:45). According to him Dustin (employee of Mr.Beast) paid to him to make the inteviews. There is a clear conflict of interest. Soggy is also speaks in bad faith in my opinion on this video. He is taking everything that Mr.Beast employees say in a face value, when ther lifelyhood is on stake. How crazy would they be speak about shady businesses if Mr.beast.
7 likesProof?
0 likesWhy are you saying like he was thats just a Theory A GAME i mean your theory
3 likesImagine if mrbeast,dogpack404 and soggy cereal were just working towards a mrbeast video of 'I tried to expose and unexpose myself to see the chaos on the internet' 💀
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@@forfaerghus8092 didn't nik actually do shitty stuff during that whole "social experiment" thing?
0 likesWhat in the hell
1 like@@AdamMribiha Dont... Sdont... Zont do it...
1 likeThey would be 2 steps ahead
2 likes@@ramdomytuser biggest plot twist on the internet for the next century then lol
2 likesWhat if Rosanna is also involved? @@Karmanara
1 likeI would lowkey actually love that, that would entertain me greatly
7 likesNo
0 likesnumber 1 world wide most watched youtube video
3 likesThat was my initial coping thought, wondering if by the end, MrBeast posts a rewind video and confirms that everyone was working together. But, coping is still coping.
2 likesNickacado ahh moment
3 likesAnd Kris Tyson was also in it the WHOLE time 😂
2 likesWith the long con Nikocado Avocado pulled, something like that wouldn't surprise me anymore.
9 likesyou were playing checkers while I was playing UNO...+4
3 likes@@catfan2o23 Literally my though!
4 likessambucha ahh idea
17 likesthat sounds more like a max fosh vid ngl lol
11 likes@@Urani_um
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
@@KarmanaraRosana, ahh that girl is such a tryhard for petty reasons. She is pathetic
0 likesif that did happen, a lot of internet clowns would be called out lmao (Rosanna Pansino for example)
24 likes@@piggyhfdslmaooo
0 likes"3 steps ahead"
75 likesTo be honest, they treat us viewers like pingpong ball anyway
51 likesThat would be a big plot twist
74 likesConclusion: neither mrbeast nor dogpack are good
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Who is good, there is a reason why they calls out human, Like my French Friend always say “he is not a saint”
0 likesjust because he is a YouTuber doesn’t mean he is perfect, he is human and human make mistakes every day, there are some mistakes that he shouldn’t make but that doesn’t mean I would unsubscribe to him because of a product he is selling especially when he have team that makes these stuff not him, also he did not text a 12 years old, his friend did not him, so give me a reason why you think he is a bad person.
@@tomby_ well said
0 likes@@pogggaming4470what should we do? NO
0 likesWhat should you do? YES
It appears you are waiting for the public to make a generally accepted opinion and jump to that train.
My recommendation is that you ponder and think for yourself and come with your own conclusions yon how to proceed next and what to think about these people
nor Soggy, he is petty and has a personal bias against dogpack
0 likes@ rong
0 likesMr beast might not be good but he’s probably not as bad as people depict him
0 likes@@pogggaming4470if you really are so desperate for one then the good guy here is coffeezilla
0 likes@ ok ok fine, I won’t pick either side
0 likes@@pogggaming4470bro cant form thoughts by yourself? are you restarted or something
0 likes@@Biggesthaterof2024I’m not? I legit voiced my opinion. I said no one’s is good in this case, feel like your just starting stuff to start stuff but hey, that’s just me i guess
0 likes@@sandwich-plays say that's what I have saying people nowadays. They're ignorant imbeciles who don't do research but only jump into conclusions.
0 likes@@titanusgodzillaa4274 you think dogpack is worse than MrBeast who knew about Ava the whole time?!? wtf
0 likesor close your electronics and go touch grass until this war is over
0 likes@sandwich-plays yeah people need to learn to think for themselves
0 likes@@titanusgodzillaa4274you're literally retarded
0 likes@ yeah because Jaketheviking that had a falling out with beast YEARS ago is a completely reliable source
0 likesWhat has soggy cereal even done lol
No one is good in this world, blame people who made Mr beast famous for giving away money and stupid challenges
0 likesThis video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
1 likeSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
There are many shades of grey in this world. Not many people are good.
0 likesAllegations were LITERALLY debunked in the video?!?!??
0 likes@ ok
0 likes@@pogggaming4470think for yourself instead of taking sides.
0 likes@ hell nah
0 likeshell yes
0 likes@ so should we just let the planet die?
0 likesNo one is good
0 likesNot even you
Not even me
@@thetacticalguy62 You’re acting like you are actively proving a worthless point
0 likes@@MrWeird-mu5ulI think I may not be sober
0 likes@@pogggaming4470mrbeast he still helps a bunch of people today
0 likes@@titanusgodzillaa4274 nah
0 likes@thetacticalguy62 most journalists don't have so called integrity cause they are people at the end of the day everyone has shortcomings some more than others
0 likes@@bredfarmer14 whatever pays the bills.... whatever pays the bills.........
0 likesIt's becoming political all over again
0 likes@@pogggaming4470Dude just ignore the drama at this point and don't side, this is just pathetic that your so obsessed with this
1 like@@redmaple3432Soggy did good and honest work, unlike these sheep in the comments riding the dogpack meat immediately and "changing sides now".
2 likesThis comment threads kinda pathetic and describes the internet as a whole lol
0 likes@pogggaming4470 I guess him. Lol. Nonsense. It's all for engagement. He makes a video. We watch. It goes viral on twitter. He tweets more abiut it and gets engagement futher boosting it and in the end twitter pays him even though the youtube vid is monetized or not.
0 likes@@realnecromancerthe real conclusion is become a commentary/drama youtuber so u can be rich
0 likes@@berkekadircelik6282while you are true, Jimmy is mostly a victim of hate. And I really feel bad for him. Packdog tho, nah let YouTube delete his channel for lying this damn much for three months
0 likesWhat do you mean? Mrbeast made mistakes, yeah. But he's not a bad person nor a bad youtuber.
0 likes@@lovingyou9921 Soggy made a point that just doesn’t make sense in my opinion. when he’s interviewing the ex/present MrBeast employees, I feel like that isn’t trustworthy. Of course his extra employees are going to keep themselves financially safe, we have no idea if they are telling the truth nor are they forced to.
1 like@@johngulster7787Yeah, but my point still stands, anyone can get things wrong, there are a few points that don’t resonate with me in the video, but I still think it’s a good and important video to have up
0 likes@@Biggesthaterof2024Never said I was anyone important, just voicing my opinion
0 likes@@thetacticalguy62Well soggy has a lot more credibility.
0 likes@@UnaNocheEnMedellinYTePagoElGym maybe ? Idk , never watch Andrew Tate only vanoss dkk
0 likes@ ok
0 likes@@skyrerite7734 aahh andrew tate reference
0 likesman those are just moral statements, dont beef in the comments
0 likes@@thetacticalguy62did bro think he did something? Who do you think you are?
0 likes@ I’m also a American
1 like@@pogggaming4470can I ask if you're an American? I am one, and I tend to notice many of us are unable to imagine that both sides can be wrong, which is a consequence of our voting system.
7 likes@@pogggaming4470apply some nuance, it's not some scale where you pick mr beast or dogpack over. You can reconcile that both of them are bad, and that we should be more cautious of blindly trusting what we're shown, and instead look for the real answer and think for yourself.
2 likes@@pogggaming4470 yes
0 likes@@titanusgodzillaa4274 Not really. Mr. Beast somewhat encouraged Kris Tyson's behavior and promoted gambling to children through his candy bars. Dogpack is a bad person but Mr. Beast is a CEO who does fake charities and a bunch of other shady business stuff for money. Just watch Coffeezilla's video.
0 likesIt’s a blood bath
0 likesAll accusations by dogpack against Mr Beast are disproven. The lawsuit is a joke. The crypto trading is suspicious but not proven. Your conclusion: Mr Beast is BAD
0 likes@@pogggaming4470naw he a fart smella
0 likes@@thetacticalguy62muh journalistic integrity.
0 likesLike a lot of terms nowadays, people throw it around all the time without knowing what it means
@@titanusgodzillaa4274 What? You're insane lmao
0 likesConclusion: Skibidi Toilet Ohio sigma rizzler hawk tuah
0 likes@aayy9540 yeah I'm so deadass
0 likesBut MrBeast is evidently 1000 times better than dogopack
1 like@@JesusPlsSaveMe I did
0 likes@@pogggaming4470 if youre conflicted side with me ;)
1 likeWelcome to Real world , where heros are villain . And villain is just your enemy and heroes to another
1 like(Just my 2 cent)
@@EyemachineStudios you serious?
2 likes@titanusgodzillaa4274 hiring a pedo is still pretty bad
0 likes@@pogggaming4470 imo, mrbeast because dogpack literally lied about cp lol
0 likes@@pogggaming4470me
0 likesLike actual modern journalists have the qualifications or integrity lmao@@thetacticalguy62
0 likes@@UncannyBuckethead
0 likesWhere are you going after you die?
What happens next? Have you ever thought about that?
Repent today and give your life to Jesus Christ to obtain eternal salvation. Tomorrow may be too late my brethen😢.
Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto man once to die, but after that the judgement
Conclusion: everyone on the internet sucks
7 likes@@titanusgodzillaa4274dogpack is nowhere near as bad be fr
0 likeswell no one is completely good or completely evil. Everything depends on how you personally view morality.
2 likesConclusion: we are stupid sheep.
2 likes@@thetacticalguy62what did soggy cereal do though?
2 likes@@pogggaming4470SunnyV2?
0 likes@@pogggaming4470me, im the good one
0 likes@@zarc1145the video adressed it?
1 likeShut uppp xD
@@titanusgodzillaa4274you know i would call the person who uses child and slave labor in their chocolate company worse (feastables) but to each their own i suppose
0 likes@@thetacticalguy62you are the only one who understands it
0 likesI say we go for the millionaire who can act out on his plans before we go for some random guy with Internet access. They're both bad people, but taking out the most powerful one is the better option.
6 likes@@berkekadircelik6282 in this life there's no such thing as good or bad people per-se, just people making decisions that have consequences, on themselves and on OTHERS, whether are good or bad...
3 likesAND ROSANA PANSINO
0 likes@@pogggaming4470Chandler
1 like@@thetacticalguy62 what did soggy do?
4 likes@@EyemachineStudios???
1 likenor this dude
0 likes@@Woss-xc3utI understand that reference lol
2 likesConclusion : more and more drama about mrbeast is going to be coming out forever and ever
4 likes@@pogggaming4470 me
0 likes@@sandwich-plays in otherwords ...trust no one!
3 likesthis is stupid
1 like@@pogggaming4470 mrbeast ofc, sure he may not be perfect but he's still a saint
4 likes@@pogggaming4470 bro just don't take a side.
16 likesYou haven’t learned your lesson, blindly trusting yet another “saint” YouTuber 😊
3 likeseven the viewers aren’t good, they blindly believe anything they see on the internet then harasses other people for something they didn’t do
83 likes@ no, but my mind is conflicted
6 likes@@pogggaming4470 no one. Is someone forcing you to side with someone?
66 likes@@berkekadircelik6282 then what should we do instead? Who should we side with?
1 like@@titanusgodzillaa4274lol what. Mrbeast still promotes gambling, cryptoscammed, had a shadman poster and let Ava groom children.
0 likesDogpack is a disgruntled employee whom faked things about Mr.Beast while also spreading some truth about him as well.
@@pogggaming4470no one needs to be the "good guy". This is real life, not a movie. Multiple people can be bad
185 likes@ so what should we do then? Leave the internet hmmmm?
5 likes@@pogggaming4470no. No one’s good in this case. Not even soggy tbh. None of the people here are journalistic nor have to have the integrity of one. This is a double edged sword- no a triple edged sword
253 likes@@titanusgodzillaa4274 what about soggy cereal? He’s a decent fella
23 likes@@pogggaming4470 none but dogpack is arguably worse than mr beast
250 likes@@pogggaming4470 it’s impossible to truly be good in this world, everyone messes up, but dogpack is very purposefully lying against MrBeast because he’s salty for being fired
0 likesThen who’s the good people in this case ?
5 likesYes
30 likesI just wanna say, I'm not saying dogpack or soggycereal are wrong but take everything you hear with grain of salt. Have a nice day
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I'll believe the heavily corroborated claims from dozens of former employees over a clear crisis management video paid for by the guy losing his child exploitation empire.
1 like@@somethingsomething404and let soggy hate on his new product and talk about the crypto coffezilla drama?
0 likes@@droketheroperand soggy is a small YouTuber so being invited to come interview the biggest channel is like life blood, he can’t easily say no.
7 likesJimmy 100% had editorial control on this video.
@@droketheroper This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
10 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@Polyeurythane Soggy confirmed that an MB employee named Dustin paid for airfare because Soggy couldn't afford it. The video literally wouldn't exist without Beast funding.
10 likes@@Polyeurythane yo you guys are onto something
6 likesAsking a lot of the people 😆
1 like@@droketheroperand followed him on Twitter (and also deleted his positive comment under the video). Hmm.
19 likesWe really need to mind the fact that some third party youtuber flew overseas and conveniently asked all the right questions, then Jimmy popped his head in to say thanks.
32 likesYou are so right about that! Never should ppl feel manipulated about little opinions
12 likesWhat about the allegations of his team deleting the 500k discord messages that Nathan W leaked on twitter that proved Mrbeast knew about Kris?
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@Juan_Wacko he got a lot wrong in this video, Pegasus just confirmed that by talking to Jimmy himself. So don't believe every Youtuber slandering another.
0 likes@@igornesic6882 you are F'ing slow, Mr beast knowing about Kris means he supported a Chomo tf you mean, that's a wild point of view 🤣 him knowing is bad you Labotomite 🤣
0 likes@Thespectacularuser 👍
1 like@@igornesic6882 cool
1 like@Thespectacularuser i am defending mrbeast tho
1 likeim pretty sure he knows, he said it at the start of the video. He doesnt trust mrbeast and he thinks some allegations are true. Hes just adressing the ones that arent true, he is in no way defending mr beast.
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOneDownplaying??? Tf U mean downplaying... U gotta have a chicken's brain to fall for the fake cry of Jake Waddle... Come on bro
1 like@@dragon-kun199 even tho he is
1 likethe video is about dogpack being intellectually dishonest not mr beast being a good person there is a difference
4 likes@@AscendentGamingfew?
2 likesWho cares if mrbeast knew about kris,him knowing about kris isnt bad
4 likesBecause that was probably true and he'd rather nitpick the few instances where Beast wasn't a total POS.
19 likes@@TheTrueBlueOne well beast games is a pretty background scene with barely any information (just like his crypto fraud) so he probably just couldn't cover that situation.
15 likesand about the discord messages, he did tick the "Chris" being a degenerate.
or what about soggy downplaying the whole jake weddle situation
74 likesor even the beast games allegations where jimmy is currently being sued
I don't agree with the Weddle thing. It was obviously not a warcrime but its still messed up to what they did to him. To boil it down to whether it is a warcrime or not is a bit disingenuous.
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@@markrubern9206 original commenter felt soggy focusing on the terminology around "war crime" was disingenuous to what weddle went through.
0 likesmy comment went into how that wasn't the case because to use hyperbole (amplified language) in the way the original story was presented, and with how dogpack then decided to add context to drive the point home, was a manipulative tactic on dogpacks' part to illicit a reaction from the audience. when in reality, his experience was nothing akin to a warcrime or an assault victim (as weddle had also likened himself to an sa victim who's story isn't taken seriously). was it harmful to weddle? yes. did it do an absolute number on his mental health? yes. but if you look into war crimes and the absolute brutality of it, those who have suffered from it would choose weddle's experience over it 9 times out of 10. it makes those experiences of heinous acts, seem on the same level when they're nowhere close to equal.
that's not to diminish weddle's experience though. soggy, as well as weddle's friend, reiterated that what weddle went through was bad and not good on him - thus acknowledging his experience - without adding exaggerated language to make it far worst.
aka - the shit he endured was bad on him, but it was not in equal measures to a war crime and the focus on that during dogpacks' video was meant to capitalize on the audience's emotions.
He could've left anytime he wanted.....
0 likes@@macnkeebsI’ve read this paragraph three times and you still dont make any sense.
0 likes@@ashmein6021 yep! i'm sorry! i should have been more clear about that. ☺
0 likes@@macnkeebs hi im sorry if this question might be dumb..but when you say, "that's not what he did tho" you are referring to the creator of this video, Soggy cereal?
0 likesYou need to understand what "warcrime" is dude
2 likeshe had a choice to leave but choose not to
He accepted the challenge when he was obviously not in a good mental state. Even in the dogpack video, he came off extremely mentally unwell. Going off on tangents about how sad he is and how messed up his life is. No offense, but no one cared. That wasnt the point of the video.
3 likesHow you can trust what that dude says is insane.
@@sagking5282 everyone has their price, but you never really know what you're willing to endure until you're in that position. imagine being put in a room of solitary confinement without any real human interaction after the worst day of your life in recent memory? do you think 10k would be enough to be under a microscope? 100k? 200k? we can all say "psh, i'd do that for 1k! who are you kidding? in this economy?!" and maybe we'd do just fine, but studies already show that solitary confinement over prolonged periods does a number on one's mental health - and that's on a sound, healthy person. imagine when you're not in the best frame of mind and having to do so. add to it power dynamics and a slew of other thought processes and lack of actual, productive sleep? it's a lot.
14 likesHe to paid 100k for it, tbh I’d do it for 10k
2 likes@@naganut9718 no problem! i get where the commenter was coming from. it's very easy to feel someone is dismissive of an experience when being nitpicky due to word usage, and had the entire time been spent trying to completely minimize the harm that time did on weddle, i would be more prone to agree that it was disingenuous. i think soggy handled it well by not only speaking of the true atrocities behind that word, but also including the footage towards the end from weddle's friend to reiterate that he went through hell and everyone could tell and that the experience was not good for him or handled in the best way.
5 likeshe has a friend that, despite themself feeling a bit tossed in the fray of this, still wanted to make sure people knew that the man went through hell and continues to do so due to audience hate and outrage. and a lot of that should land on dogpack's shoulder for how he poorly mishandled this rather than someone who never truly recovered from that time and is simply doing what he believes is right for him.
He has put both a tick mark and a cross at the jake weddle thing
6 likes@@macnkeebs fucking thank you
12 likesthat's... not what he did though? language matters in this world, especially given how literal people take things now and how nuance is lost, and likening the harm done to a war crime and assault is making less of true war crimes. he acknowledged, just like his friends and colleagues, that what weddle went through did an absolute number on him and that there's no denying that. it's the use of the word to illicit a very particular image and emotion from the audience, that's considered manipulative and hyperbole.
75 likesIt was kind of the point its a challenge
9 likesI think the reason everyone believed dogpack was because he said he worked for Mrbeast and it was during the Kris Tyson drama. This still doesn’t mean Mrbeast is a good person. A villain can fight a villain but that doesn’t mean one of them is a hero or good person
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This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
1 likeSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
People blindly believed it because they lack critical thinking. Ridiculous.
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0 likes@@Supersailor60 i know, i love mrbeast(no diddy) n think most of his mistakes were mistakes all new businesses make
3 likes@@HayatoSurinosure he’s not done the best things but he still did a tonne of good things like building 100 wells and giving people food and houses
3 likes@@kingfwoggerthe point of the video was to fact check all the claims made, not to just disprove them. 2 and a half of dogpack's claims turned out to be true, everything else was false.
3 likes"I'm robbing this bank go find another bank bro"
1 like@@Maciej_Płóciennik There are a lot of burner accounts on the internet that get created recently and the first thing they say is allegations against someone popular
0 likes@@Kaleb-fi8vz i dont really get it whats wrong with that he created channel 3 days after drama
0 likesExactly my point dawg. This video only tries to disproves some of the allegations towards Jimmy, not all. Now I don't like either Jimmy or Dawson.
0 likeshis channel isnt monetized he isn't making money from it, possibly attention hungry but not money
1 likeYall love to hate on mrbeast for no reason
7 likes@@lazychromebox7678He said in a tweet that his lawyers didn’t allow him to respond apparently
5 likeslunchly was the cherry on top
5 likes@@Kaleb-fi8vzImagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.
0 likesAlso another thing that enabled Dogpack to say such accusations, was because Mr.beast didn't respond as soon as the allegations were made. He still hasn't really responded for some reason. I feel like these accusations wouldn't have gone too far if MrBeast had debunked the first video as soon as it dropped
11 likes@@sampsonwatson5927yea even king david wasnt perfect
1 likeNobody is completely good my dude
4 likes@@CyberPea08After the livestream with Jake I found it kinda suspicious, he just was talking in a formulaic way.
4 likes@ I was pretty skeptical of dogpack at first. Dude came out of nowhere and the first thing he drops was a video exposing Mrbeast
29 likesAlso the dude created his channel like 3 days after the drama started,I don’t know why NO-ONE has pointed that out. It’s like people that cheat in games and how they create new accounts all the time. He was money hungry.
48 likesI can already see the headlines. "Soggy cereal just destroyed his career."
360 likes"Soggy cereal Is finished."
"Soggy cereal situation just got worse"
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So many holes in this video and even around the 23 minute mark he is proven to be paid for those interviews.
0 likes@@Lacewise update: Soggy has confirmed on Twitter that MrBeast’s comment has NOT been deleted, but has been heavily suppressed by the sheer amount of dislikes, so that’s my bad for misleading
0 likesNux is gonna have a feild day...
0 likes@@Epicdudeverycool
3 likesI think one is actually because his lawyers frantically texted him to delete it since this is supposed to be an independent, both sides video (very common for media spin).
@@TheTrueBlueOne i think 1. is because the video ADMITS MrBeast did do wrong things. When he realised, he quickly deleted the comment.
3 likesngl people have already started poking holes in this video already
10 likes1. Why did MrBeast comment "Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol" and then quickly deleting it?
2. Why did MrBeast start mass forwarding this video to EVERY big commentary creator on YouTube and TikTok, begging for attention?
3. Soggy received full air travel coverage from a MrBeast affiliate to fly over to the US to conduct the interviews.
4. How did Soggy get access to all these Beast employees and especially the "leaked" DogPack audio files, when Coffeezilla couldn't get a single contact from MB?
5. Soggy has already seen what Jimmy has done in point 2 and has expressed disappointment that Jimmy has essentially turned this video into MB propaganda and a "get out of jail free card"
Real
0 likesITS OVER
10 likesITS DONE
ITS FINISHED
FINALLY DONE
FINALLY OVER
FINALLY FINISHED
ECT ECT
Soggy cereal new information finally leaked...
8 likesSoggy cereal just started WW3
9 likesThe Soggy cereal situation is more complicated than we thought.
24 likesFunny how the Dogpack videos never got recommended but this video cant leave my frontpage.
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Tbh that’s what im saying it kinda gives payed off even if what he said is all true and dogpack is horrible the Jake Weddle stuff is just wrong. I feel like using our knowledge of the Slop Content video and how he just randomly decided to hate on Pegasus when he thought they were friends makes me think he is also doing this from a grudge or is payed off.
0 likesDogpacks videos were recommended to me a couple types even though I don't really watch Mr. Beast content. Don't engage in anecdotal fallacy, actually address the arguments.
3 likesYouTube’s golden boy Mr beast definitely had some influence
8 likesbesides all the allegations and debunking, i will stand with my point forever that mrbeast's adhd editing is unenjoyable and a huge departure from what made his content fun to begin with
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@WhyThoOz The last thing I'm saying is, I'm not saying that dogpack is right and that mrbeast is guilty. If anything dogpack appears the least trustworthy out of the 3 but as confusing as that sounds, I'm still on his side the most. Because I personally think mrbeast is really dodgy and has suspicious things going on, so I still as much as it sounds biased still personally believe that there's a chance that there are some allegations of mrbeast that are possibly still true or that haven't been covered. And yes, for now I'm like I said, still going to wait some time before trusting soggy.
0 likes@WhyThoOz you obviously like others probably don't understand me, but the way I think of it is, soggy from what I heard was paid by mrbeast, so there's a chance that some of what soggy used to disprove dogpack COULDVE been... smartly planned by mrbeast like soggy is more of a good lawyer than an impartial, fair one. Also, hot take, but there's a chance the employees had scripted statements to make dogpack look worse, plus that guy who said he got "financially" ruined, seemed unemotional or ingenuine when saying that. I know how many disagree with me and I'm aware that it's a "bad take" but this is my opinion and I'm not trying to be a free thinker.
0 likes@WhyThoOz Don't want to seem like a pedantic free thinker, but I'm still sticking to being uncertain about if soggy is being biased or impartial. That's just my opinion, you can disagree, but I'm not changing my opinion.
0 likes@@Omnilosopher it doesn't matter if the video was planned or not what matters is if he's GUILTY or not. Mrbeast has the right to defend himself, especially if the things said about him have been taken either out of context or just flat out lies. Mrbeast has done things, but from what I'm seeing and hearing, the things mrbeast did weren't even all that bad and dogpack exaggerated to get that bag and his get back for getting fired
0 likes@Polyeurythane no it doesn't he correctly pointed out dog pack suggesting inappropriate content for children
1 like@@trollman5457 I know but even though I'm neutral, this video wasn't made randomly, it was planned through a discussion between soggy and mbreast from what I heard, so there's a chance that some things he said are biased. Him saying "Mrbeast isn't innocent or above criticism" isn't enough for me to just suddenly jump to his side, sorry.
0 likes@@Omnilosopher soggy cereal literally acknowledged that Mr beast isn’t innocent or above criticism
4 likesAlso dogpack still hasn't responded to soggy yet, but honestly from the looks of it, I feel like dogpack might just have a pretentious "it was alleged" response
2 likesSame and to be honest, I was initially on dogpacks side, from the start, because I've always thought of mrbeast as having no personality and when in the videos, its just the way he acts, he seems almost sociopathic, just no emotion at all. But as much as I'll never agree that he deserves his popularity and that he seems sociopathic, I remain neutral but for now I would definitely say that out of the three I'm most on dogpacks side because soggy cereal was likely paid by mrbeast so for now I remain neutral on the debunked dogpack claims, since there's still a possibility that this might be debunked.
2 likesI never found Mrbeast's content entertaining, even after I watched a few of his videos. But even after all of this I'm still neutral about Mrbeast.
2 likesWhich is why I feel it is disingenuous of Soggy to go against the “MrBeast’s videos are aimed at children” comment DogPack made.
2 likesyeah, honestly i just liked him because of his charities
8 likesWatching Jimmy's contest feels like watching shorts, except they are way too long.
21 likesWhen my parents aren’t home I dig a hole outside and pretend to be a potato
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@@TheSpontaneousCommenter youd better
0 likesI will join you
0 likes@@GrayKnight259 nice
0 likes@@bekombetred7671 great memories
0 likesRemind me of TechnoBlade quote but instead of potato he say carrot i think
0 likes@@hye2354 sure (fun fact we gave more likes than mr beast and westjett)
2 likesI wanna join become part of nature
0 likes@@GrayKnight259 i respect those who have the grace to be a potato but me personally I like the more bombastic parts of carrot
0 likessame but i pretend to be a carrot
0 likesYour my favourite potatoe.
0 likesI NEED to try this
0 likesPotato jokes aren't funny!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesawesome
0 likes@@nikokillam7553
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Ok, I had a decent laugh with this comment. Thank you 😆
0 likesAll these serious debates, and people taking sides, then there's this lmao
@@alyaly2355 imagine it him saying dog pack was right you liar
0 likes@ Thank you my good sir, and yes, Mrbeast commented
0 likes@@alyaly2355 sure we have the big enough back yard ps MR BEST COMMENTED?
0 likesI love how this comment has more likes than Mrbeast, may I join you?
0 likes@@theducksarecoming I like the comunity coming toghether so support me
0 likessame but instead i pretend im an ancient relic lost to time
0 likesPotato twins
0 likes@@GuyInWalls ahh a rabbit classic. to each their own i suppose
1 likeme personally I like carrot role play
0 likesvery interesting
1 like"I saw 'GrayKnight259's comment, he's a fraud"
0 likesI wan be potato
0 likes@ it’s called someone being silly and people finding it funny. You must be so fun at parties
1 likeHows this relevant to video? How u get even 1 like? Amazing!
0 likeshow do I follow your channel
0 likesOh ok
0 likes@@lossandgain ? idk what you mean
0 likesSybau
0 likesIf I could pin this comment I would
3 likesBased
3 likes@@potatoboy0609 ahh yes the legendary potaoe
5 likes@@potatoboy0609 gedagedi
5 likes@@nikokillam7553 can I joint too; we'll be the fry-guys
0 likesDid someone say something?
5 likesMore potato too?
2 likes@@opheliamunroe1110 cuz or else they try to farm me as if im a acctual potatoe
8 likesWhy only when they're not home? Do they not approve?
4 likes@@GrayKnight259 alright
2 likes@@pizzarolls-s7s try it some time? or nah
2 likesme too, man
3 likes@@andrewflores-qw1lf you should try it!
0 likesTrue fr
3 likes@@_rohee ill protect you with my blood
0 likesType shh
5 likesbrotatos for life
7 likes@@TavaQuest someone who understands whoooo
9 likes@@fff7-l9w its a party
0 likes@@artemisthehunter8360 no pls my parents are already suspisios cuz of all the holes in my backyard 😭😭
19 likesDitto
7 likesNah I like spuds too. Count me in
6 likes@@nikokillam7553 yay i have friends
0 likesGet this to top comment, we exposin u today
44 likesCan I join you, we could be brotatoes
181 likesbro actually was a disgruntled employee
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Dogpack already said that in his video though. He was fired from mr.Beast. So what do you think that implies?
0 likes@@zarc1145 this video DEFINITELY reduces what was being said in dogpacks videos by a LOT bru it's like him calling the MCU venom a villain when he's just a anti-hero
1 like@@shadowed69not as bad as you think, investigation likes this requires more inquiries than conclusions.
0 likes@@Morsellathe evidence is clear
0 likes@shadowed69 He's not, you believing the word of the guy who never actually told them of the guy's history until much later when the person actually was kicked.
1 like@@hellboy9458Stucky is a ducker lmfao
0 likesThis video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
1 likeSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@NitroMelonOnly like two of them are correct.
1 like@@MorsellaIt's not as shown in the vid.
0 likes@@zarc1145this video goes over each of dogpack's claims, if you want something outside the scope of that look elsewhere
0 likes@@Morsella Which "illegal lottery" are you dogpack cultists even talking about?
0 likesBros dream job was working for mrbeast 💀 he applied 3 times, got hired, worked for only 2 weeks, then gets terminated. 😂
3 likesDon't know how many people didn't catch on since the first few minutes of dogpack's first video
4 likesStucky is the "reverse Pegasus", check him out
0 likes@@thanhhungvo2649 me when the hour long video confirms that he did an illegal lottery but i try to sweet for mr beast and pretend other people are lying
0 likes@@NitroMelonthis video isn't really all that though while yes dogpack clearly isn't good this video doesn't mention any of the real problems mr beast has while debunking the minor problems making the mr beast seem good while he's not
11 likesShocker. Not like many others in the commentary community didn't tell you dogshit had a axe to grind and everyone response. Oh your on beast payroll. Just like rosanna hands aren't clean in this
0 likes@@NitroMelon @thanhhungvo2649 didnt even know the real shit. people here just got brainwashed to be mrbeast apologist.
0 likes@@Morsellayes some of his claims are indeed correct (of which are pretty few and far in between), but at best he's mixed it in with his lies and now all he's done is muddie the waters and confuse everyone. And at worst, literally what the video is about.
14 likes@@Morsellame when i dont watch the hour long video that i just commented on
10 likesno? his claim is correct. he did illegal lottery. confirmed by legal egle too.
28 likes@@_Mic_helle_ No I don't like dopack404 lol I knew he was sus from the beginning
3 likesWhich says nothing, though. A disgruntled employee could be an asshole who wants revenge on good people or a guy disillusioned by the real face of someone who he once admired.
17 likes@@Strongest0145 you like the disinformation?
3 likesYup
0 likesYep he is I like this content tho
5 likes@@Strongest0145 Yeah, Stucky was a small channel, and I feel it's important to support the underdog.
24 likes@hellboy9458 I saw you in stucky vid lol.
7 likesShocker!!! I can't believe that flew over my head. I couldn't see the sign or hint at all.
83 likesThe allegations aren’t true. So MrBeast isn’t as bad as dogpack was saying. But so what? He’s still a largely vapid guy who uses people in need to make a profit on YouTube. He’s still the biggest reason why people see YouTube as a way to get rich instead of a way to make content that you love to make and can share with the world. He still uses clickbait titles and thumbnails and has spawned like a billion over saturated loud annoying copycat channels that plague YouTube. And he still sells his audience shit that is pricey and bad for their health, and uses his YouTube following to sell. I still don’t like him. Never did.
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You are correct and I hate the black and white mentality some people have where at least one person must be in the right. Just because one person is a POS doesn't automatically absolve their opponent of being free of that label. They can both be trash
0 likesCOOK! Both dogpack and mrbeast are bad (crypto scams etc)
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@@EyemachineStudios 😭👍
0 likes@@WhyThoOz When the fuck did i meantion his new song?
0 likes@@GhostShurikenthey just milking yall and yall are falling for it. KSI literally got into the billboard hot 100 because yall didn't realise this is just for marketing and KSI is the one laughing in the end. Even DanTDM saw this, why do you think he not replying or anything anymore😭
0 likes@@db1671crypto scam hasn’t been proven or disproven yet pretty sure it still getting investigated
0 likesYes ..Mr beast is bad because he didn’t give a apple visionPro to dogpack404 …😂😂😂
0 likes@@TriforceLegacyOfficialmrbeast didnt rlly fight back that much it was just ksi and logan paul
0 likes@@aim3k249 by your logic everyone is bad because we all buy stuff from child labor
0 likesYes
0 likesYa dog pack is a shitty person but that dosnt excuse all the stuff that he’s done and is coming out still of things he’s done Mr beast is a terrible person and dogpack is too
0 likes@@sandwich-plays Still bad
1 like@Ilikechickennugget234 no
0 likes@@EyemachineStudiosbro mr beast did do crypto scam did u see the new coffeezilla video
1 like@@db1671paid agent of mrbeast
0 likesHis crypto wallet is mostly managed by another person, MrBeast only bought NFTs and his admitted on a podcast
1 like@@EyemachineStudios look at the latest Coffeezilla
0 likes@@EyemachineStudios so did KSI
2 likesMr beast maybe not/only profited off of it and didn't know
But KSI is a scammer
Jimmy never did crypto scams, Logan Paul did do crypto scams tho
2 likes@@sandwich-plays Him tweeting about it is promoting it to his millions of followers so yes he was part of the scam at that point.
5 likes@@ironpawthe1 Not really. Not if they stop being assholes about it. Referring to specifically KSI and Logan Paul.
1 likemr beast technically never crypto scammed anyone, he just profited from it
13 likes@@TriforceLegacyOfficial Top 10 dumbest YouTube dramas
12 likes@@venity7165 They went illegal or literal scams, it was a bit unethical though.
0 likesThe Lunchly controversy
5 likes@@venity7165 to elaborate for db, mr beast did a crypto scam thing that i still know very little how it works but coffee did a video on it and found that jimmy is legally grey at its most clear. if you know more about crypto then me i highly recommend you watch coffee's vid. he's research is just as sound as soggy's and hes been covering logan pauls crypto issues for the past year now 👍
0 likesI haven’t liked mr beast for like half a decade. But a shltty hit piece. Is a shltty hit piece lmao
11 likes@@venity7165 The "scams'" weren't really scams, just a bit unethical
0 likes@@db1671 wdym
54 likesNo crypto scams - all lies
8 likesdid you watch the video soggy reccomended about this yet?
8 likesI have a feeling that neither side is telling the 'truth'
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@ Soggy did more than just google tho, He flew to the US to conduct interviews and did some online as well as some research. He did a good amount of work
2 likes@@AshZy33 fr fr I feel like the video is kinda manipulative in a way by mostly showing the really easy to debunk allegations and when I mean really easy to debunk allegations soggy literally just googled and used the way back machine. Some people on Twitter already called out dogpack for most of these things before the creation of this video the only thing that is new to take away from this is the interaction and interview of the Mr. Beast employees.
1 like@@leontriestoart you’re literally getting ratioed rn
0 likes@@xeralt2914no they did not and that's.... Concerning
0 likes@@leontriestoartPeople are disagreeing with you because they want to seem like they're not picking a side when they're picking a side lol.
0 likesPeople think that's how you seem smart and unbiased.
Nobody is completely a saint
0 likes@@leontriestoart thanks for replying in my stead, I didn’t notice this comment thread until someone @ me, the dude compared soggy to doggy and called them accusations lol , over 90% of the video is soggy showing evidence, while doggy’s showcases were allegations. How are both the same ?once again , did he watch the video, why not take a point from the video and try debunking it .Blud makes a vague ass comment understandable to simplistic minds and gets the ratio W ,clearly shows there’s a lot of doggy’s glazers in this thread .
3 likes@@Pen_is_landWe still waiting on an example
0 likes@@SomeNoobHydrafr
0 likes@@datgamer4423He only covered the claims that were false and disproven for the majority except 2
0 likes@@leontriestoartBro you are literally in the right, these guys are clowns😂
1 likeTruth? He’s disproving someone’s allegations with proof. He isn’t really making any real statements just disproving someones false narratives and claims with facts and evidence.
1 like@@xeralt2914He didn’t 😂
0 likesI’ve watched both videos, and I still believe a lot of dog packs evidence still stands. And a lot of his allegations were disproven. Did Mr beast hire a certified pedo? Yes. Did Mr beats do it on purpose? Hell no. Did Mr beast do child gambling? Sorta… but technically no.
0 likesWelcome to internet drama, where people are way too passionate about "He said,she said". Because nobody understands that if things gets immoral/ illegal, it has to be inspected by multiple teams, and brought to authorities/ court (Not US court, dear god) instead of petty internet drama and "journalism" that rivals BBC in terms of bullshit. But even i am spewing bullshit right now :
0 likesTruth is, you don't actually know if he flew people, you don't know if Dogpack worked there before, you don't know if MrBeast actually knew about Chris, because you weren't there. Video aren't live, they are biased, and you can delete anything that doesn't follow your wanted narrative. But that doesn't even matter anymore as everything can be faked, so any proof can be disproven with enough money, and most crimes don't have live recordings anyways. So it truly shouldn't matter to us as long as no one admits anything.
@@SomeNoobHydra 😭😭
0 likes@@leontriestoart he replied to me and didn't even reply to you LMAO
0 likes@@Pen_is_land just say you're wrong and be done with it
4 likesMaybe the truth was the friends we made along the way
0 likes@@SomeNoobHydra it's crazy that I asked him for an example of what he was saying and he just went silent
6 likesI mean I suppose, a lot of this video was just disproving claims dogpack made, making the topic at very least sorta neutral again.
4 likes@@SomeNoobHydra I see no point in arguing to and fro. I just said I'm neutral and soggy is using the same coherent method, mrbeast and dogpack use. One side needs to stop thinking that mrbeast is a sinless saint and the other as a supervillain. Anyone that wants to expand his trademark will always have to do undesired dark decisions
3 likes@@SomeNoobHydra I see no point in arguing to and fro. I just said I'm neutral and soggy is using a coherent method to manipulate, just like how mrbeast and dogpack does. One side needs to stop thinking that mrbeast is a sinless saint and the other as the antichrist. Anyone that wants to expand his trademark will always have to do undesired dark decisions
0 likes@@leontriestoart ain't no way, the one you're talking to stopped replying because you're right and they don't wanna admit that you are lmao.
3 likes@@Pen_is_landbro do you not know what “allegedly” means? It means the thing has no proof to back it up. Is that so hard to understand? Because it’s literally an allegation
1 like@@Pen_is_land "It's just two random parties throwing accusations over each other, and calling the other's party fraudulent" You just described the whole USA
3 likesSo do i.
0 likesI do agree in a way because soggy cereal only debunked the weak claims that dogpack have stated but the other heavy hitting ones weren't talked about
3 likes@@leontriestoart yeah the internet is pretty wack, people will ratio you not becuse you defended mr beast ( you didn't) but because you are going up against what the popular opinion. you've clearly watch the video or ( like me ) autisticly followed this drama for the last 4 months and realised that dogpack is shaddy.
19 likesonce again to re elaborate to the penhead guy, jimmy ain't a saint nor is dog pack, but undoubtably dog pack is not only misrepresenting the arguments/allegations that jimmy should address thus actively hurting any case of retribution but also hurting people's lives and careers in the process. Mind you he literally is a disgruntled employee aimed to damage anything mr beast/ the coo guy more specifically
@@realdddaboss thank you my skibidi rizzler you a real one 🙏🏽🙏🏽
5 likes@@leontriestoartyou're getting wrongfully ratioed bro I agree with you
23 likes@@Pen_is_land THIS
0 likes@pheonix2700 ... Yeah that's dogpack not soggy lmao
21 likesLiterally the only time soggy says allegedly is as a joke or when he's referring to a false accusation dogpack made (and he's about to disprove)
@@leontriestoart Watch him go on to talk about things that are not confirmed and then go "he said allegedly to this thing that has no solid proof on it hes the 1million dollar lawyer"
3 likes@Badvibe4EVR I can copy paste the comment here if youd like, it does offer quite a few examples of soggy disproving dogpack claims
7 likes@Badvibe4EVR I watched the entire video, I even made a timestamp comment before the video was organized into sections
19 likes@@leontriestoartyou didn't watch the video, did you?
15 likes@@Pen_is_land because what you're sounding like to me is that you want him to NOT say allegedly to... Well, an allegation. And run with it as fact
21 likes@Pen_is_land ok. Please give examples of soggy saying "allegedly" to something that has been proven to be true, with timestamps. I'm so confused about what you're even talking about right now.
20 likes@@leontriestoart don't forget to add the word "allegedly" everytime he says Jimmy's a bad person, then never confirms it. I'm not supporting either side, but I'm pointing out that soggy is clearly supporting him and he's using twisted words to do so.
57 likes@@Pen_is_land the point of the video is to point out that DOGPACK is a liar, not to say that Mr beast is a good person. He literally directs the viewers to another credible video that discusses allegations against Mr beast
33 likes@@Pen_is_land you dummy. The point of the video is to point out dogpack's lies, not support Mr beast. He CONSTANTLY tells us that he doesn't think Mr beast is a good person and you still couldn't get that through your head. He even directs us to a video by coffeezilla that actually has a lot of serious allegations
1 like@@Pen_is_land "only dared to confirm because Mr beast condemned tyson"
34 likesWhat
Do you think he's afraid of Mr beast or supporting him
He literally accused mr beast and calls him a bad person throughout the video
"only dared to because Mrbeast condemned Tyson"
1 likeWtf do you mean by this
Do you think he's afraid of Mr beast
He himself makes some accusations against Mr beast and paints him as a bad person
Are you stupid?
@@Pen_is_land here are some disproven accusations that should be easy for you to comprehend, all of which had substantial well researched proof.
0 likesIllegal lottery #1 (no purchase necessary was included in description)
Illegal lottery #2 (same deal)
Rigged videos (outliers, where contestants were temporarily removed or compensated for due to LIFE THREATENING circumstances. Showed proof by interviewing other employees, watching the actual videos, and finding video proof)
James Warren DV claims (dogpack literally admitted he was wrong and took forever to delete the video)
@@leontriestoart The only thing he "confirmed" was calling out Chris Tyson, and he only dared to confirm that because mrbeast condemned Tyson. He deviated all narrative away from mrbeast.
74 likes@@Pen_is_landYou're on a whole other level of stupid. Soggy literally said he wasn’t sure when it was true or false, with real evidence you can search for yourself, while Dogpack just yaps, saying "allegedly" in front of every sentence.
0 likes@@leontriestoart He didn't "confirm" anything that was directed towards mrbeast. the only thing he confirmed was Ava Chris Tyson is a degen. He only dared to confirm that because mrbeast himself condemned it.
0 likes@@Pen_is_landdid you watch the video? He says something is confirmed when he actually proves it by doing an insane amount of research. I mean he literally flew to find people to interview
55 likes@@Pen_is_landyep, all parties involved suck.
1 like@@xeralt2914 yes, again, soggy cereal clearly twisting words and using the same techniques mrbeast and dogpack is using. He is supporting mrbeast by saying "allegedly" when talking about mrbeast and "confirmed" when talking about dogpack. Neither side is flowers and sunshine
132 likesi agrree
1 like@@Pen_is_landdid you watch the video ?
25 likes@@noobyboon6062it's just two random parties throwing accusations over each other, and calling the other party's fraudulent
106 likesThat's the truth
75 likesIt’s wild to me how people can’t understand that two people can be bad, and that just because someone IS bad doesn’t mean everything about them is true. People will always jump on the “I always knew this happened once!” When someone is found out to have done something bad that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t both be shown as liars. I’m so confused by the amount of comments that seem convinced your on MrBeasts side when you made it very clear multiple times you didn’t agree with MeBeast only that these specific allegations were false
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@ How exactly does it hurt any victims? Soggy only tries to call out DogPack’s bs (whether he’s right or wrong here and there himself is a different question), he doesn’t defend Beast or pretend that Beast is a good person with an amazing company just because DogPack is shady himself. One of the biggest problems is that too many people believe everything that DogPack says without using their own brains or trying to research the situation properly.
0 likesPeople are mad, because it is a video that did not needed to be made. It takes away credibility from victims and solidifies the standing of the culprit. This is not about Dogpack. This never was about Dogpack. It's about the people that were wronged in total. It's about the ill-mannered practices the company has. It's about making fun of raping women, incel child predator behavior, selling crap to children, promoting crypto schemes, ruining people's lives for own gains. It does not matter what Dogpack did. It does not undo the things Mr Beast is responsible for. This only hurts victims!
0 likes@@taylorbug9 this videos dont adress every mr beast allegation (crypto and mrbeast games) soggy is debunking dogpack404
0 likes@@shadowed69 As if Jake the Viking is a 100% trustable source.
1 likeSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
1 like@@Jay-hy6rl stop saying glazer. its only used by people who can't create proper conclusions to simple subjects
1 like@@nhienleminhhue6605 agree, until we get more evidence
0 likes@@Jay-hy6rl "glazer" is an overused insult. your tiktok brain cant even create something original.
0 likes@@taylorbug9 at this point, we shoukd not come to any conclusion. Any prove could be disproved anyway.
0 likes@@taylorbug9 and I found another glazers
5 likesGiven the evidence in this video, how is MrBeast a bad person? Selling products, wanting to be the most famous in your line of work, charities, and investing. None of those things are inherently bad. And the worst he could be accused of at this point is mild negligence and ignorance.
2 likes"WAIT, so your saying.. people arent 2 dimensional creatures?"
3 likesA lot of people never question why a story is being told to them and whether there was any motivation to embellish it. "The best lies contain within them nuggets of truth" - george rr martin or maybe im14andthisisdeep idk
8 likesthe fact that they don't come out with their own video regarding all this but has random ass youtubers pretend to investigate for them says it all
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@@sharpnesscreeper1512 think about this. if mrbeast lawyler told him not to talk about this stuff, WHY would mrbeast be ok if his employees talk about it??
0 likesAnd the fact that he’s contacting other YouTubers like Pyro to cover Soggys video is really shady
1 likemrbeast have lawyer and they told them not to say anything about the case as it could be used against them. also imo it's because regardless what they do, people opinion already set as people already took face value all dogpack accusations. they had close to 0 chance to prove the otherwise. remember people would (they already did before) say "i investigate myself and find nothing wrong". so, 3rd party "investigator" would have better chance at expose both which imo "i i fall, you come with me situaion", so dogpack in the end apparently not the hero, it just another salty scumbag exposes other scumbag
1 likeI believe Beast's lawyer told him to not say anything about the situation.
0 likesthat is exactly what i was thinking. this video really seems like he was paid to defend someone who didn't want to defend themselves.
10 likesSo you are telling me that Mr Beast and his employees did not respond to most accusation directly, even when coming from Coffeezilla but they happily slid into your dms to set the record straight? Don't you find it at least a bit suspicious?
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@@cosmicskydragon333 it's not strange though. they find this 1h30min video suspicious and only express disagreement on the points made. the other 2 comments on Soggy Cereal besides the 4 in this thread are supportive/uncritical replies to comments that think that this video is mrbeast propaganda. i'm assuming you saw a comment of his on DogPack404 that's critical of DogPack404? if so, it's strange that they didn't express any kind of agreement to this video that is rightfully very critical of him
1 like@@EJandEmmanGonzales It's strange how you know they aren't holding dogpack to this standard. Did you check Dogpack's videos? Maybe this dude left comments applying the same to dogpack?
2 likes@illusionofquality979 jake has an issue with trans people. That makes him unreliable and biased
0 likesBecause these are things they were involved with. What does Dustin or anyone have to do with crypto? That'd have to be brought up with Jimmy and his fund, not the hiring manager or a guy from ideation or the chef or whatever. They are not involved w/ the financials they just work there
2 likesLet’s be honest, responding would only make Dogpack look legitimate.
4 likesSuspicious? Mr beast himself commented here you fool. Those are real messages lmfao
3 likesit's strange how you're not holding dogpack to this standard. an overwhelming majority of his accusations aren't well-founded, he has admitted to providing false information, and his baseless accusations damaged normal people who didn't deserve it. yet after watching this video you'd rather: speculate about mrbeast's affiliation to the video creator to accuse him of being too biased (as he criticizes mrbeast/promotes coffeezilla's video btw), assume Dustin is lying and assume Delaware's brother-in-law is telling the truth (The brother-in-law knew about Delaware's charges during his time at mrbeast, btw, and didn't bring them into attention), assume that Jimmy's mother did background checks and knowingly hired a RSO, and ignore the fact that Jake Weddle had an option to leave at any moment during the challenge and was offered $190k as compensation from Jimmy himself
31 likesWhat's suspicious about it? They have many lawsuits going around, both internally and externally, so they need to be extremely careful about what they say publicly and so it's difficult for them to make public statements. Third-party journalism is the most effective way to make these kind of statements for them, directly responding with their own experience and the evidence that they know to be true instead of making blanket statements to try and prove their innocence on their own.
9 likesI think that you are twisting what Jake said about the joke turning up not to be the joke. Dustin jokes about the whole situation being really awful, it doesn't change the fact that for Jake the situation was traumatic. Both can be true at the same time. Jake is joking that they committed a war crime but he knows that he agreed to go there and was paid. It doesn't change the fact that he suffered majorly both psychologically and physically.
55 likesI honestly don't understand where your vendetta comes from. I understand that you are upset over being called overdramatic but why drag Jake into this? You started by calling him and Rosana victim's of dogpack but now you are framing him like he is untrustworthy as well. Which one is it?
@@illusionofquality979 jaketheviking is mindless
5 likesAlso Dustin just contradicted what Delaware's brother-in-law (?) said. According to what he wrote, Delaware sat down with Jimmy and his mother and explained his background about the allegations.
70 likesSo Dustin not only lied but also is trying to play the "Jimmy was young and made mistakes" card even though his mother is heavily involved with his company and holds an important in the HR department from what I heard. She is older so you would think that she would have looked into the background of people they employ, even putting aside what Delaware's family member said contradicting Dustin's statement.
mr beast and dogpack404 should both be scrutinized
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@@Idk-xj1iq because bro literally said he was advised to stay silent by his lawyers bruh the whole lesson of this video is that people gotta be doing they research before talking🤦🏾♂️
0 likes@@nazomius7033 someone in the discord server I'm in is one of them
0 likes@@grenouillesupreme
0 likesI guess that makes sense
@Idk-xj1iq because he wanted dogapck to release his 3rd video so he could address everything all at once
1 likeI do believe some of what Dogpack says is true for one reason
0 likesWhy the hell would you not immediately come out and say “this is absolute bullshit” and address it to get it out of the way
No matter what you do, you’re gonna look guilty sure, but it looks more guilty to ignore and silence comments talking about it then just addressing and denying it
Mr beast still helps people dog pack doesn’t
0 likes@Maciej_Płóciennik that's just immediate damage control, nothing serious
0 likes@@grenouillesupreme now yes, but i remember at the beginning of the drama how every critical comment was deleted
1 like@Maciej_Płóciennik they aren't the ones getting deleted, the ones deleted are the haters
0 likes@@grenouillesupreme i didnt know people saying where is my cookie are blinded haters 💀
1 like@@Maciej_Płóciennik he said he's waiting for dogpack to finally drop that 3rd video but it's taking forever, that's why and he's obviously deleting comments because haters that blindly believe lies aren't welcome anywhere
0 likes@@nazomius7033 then why does he removing comments and wont respond to drama?
2 likes@@nazomius7033welcome to my world. I swear those types of comments really drive me nuts. Like at least Jimmy is trying to help others before he dies naturally and they still wanna hate on him even tho he has done some bad stuff in the past of his. ☹️
1 like@@nazomius7033 saying that eating fewer calories and more salt is healthier for children was a pretty major one. He was also hyping up a cryptocoin while his crypto wallet manager was already dumping it
0 likes@@nazomius7033 This video proved some of dogpack's allegations are true. It was obvious what happened to Jake Weddle was not a "war crime." It's still morally wrong. MrBeast's lotteries are still gross and exploitative, whether or not they are legal. Not to mention the crypto stuff. Dogpack may have lied, but Jimmy has honestly done worse overall still, and needs to be held accountable for his gross practices and negligience
0 likes@@C0astinG4mer I don’t see Jimmy spewing lies, idk what you’re on
8 likesRed screamy man
2 likes@@nazomius7033the dude who scammed his audiance with crypto and uses child and slave labor on his chocolate company should only slightly be scrutinized?
0 likes@@nazomius7033Both sides are lying and should both be held accountable. There is no “scrutinize one less than the other.”
58 likesJimmy should only be a bit scrutinized, and it should mostly be placed on dogpack. However, it’s unfortunately not happening as long as there are humans without an open mind. They will continue believing the lies from dogpack..
17 likesTru
4 likes"dogpack is done" "dogpack is over" "dogpacks empires is crumbling"
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Imagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.
0 likesIt's Joever
0 likesIt's Bidone
We're not coming Barack from this
How's Hank?
1 like@@thebattleshell
0 likesTo everyone in this chat, Jesus is calling you today. Come to him, repent from your sins, bear his cross and live the victorious life
its over....
0 likesI feel so bad for morepegasus 💀💀💀
0 likes@@Daymare19 MorePegasus last upload: "MrBeast Just Got exposed big time"
0 likes@@thebattleshell God, Morepegasus is so annoying. I hate him so much.
6 likes🤡🤡🤡🤡
0 likesI wonder what westJett would be then
5 likesThe slop commentary content is approaching 😭
12 likes@@thebattleshell*more morepegasus
24 likescant wait for morepegasus😭
64 likesI feel like this was definitely a MrBeast glazing video. It started out OK but the interviews felt like MrBeast was responding to the allegations without him personally responding. You are definitely right to criticize dogpack for the misinformation he spread and it was a shitty thing to do. Knowing that MrBeast is sending your video to commentary channels as his side of the story makes me feel like he had a hand in the making.
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You’ve literally been brainwashed by dogpack the entire time. The truth just hurts doesn’t it 😂💀
2 likesIt's people telling their own experiences he still maintains that the guy did things that should be addressed but we shouldn't be hating on him for false claims.
1 likeBruh pedo alligation , war crime allegation are literally messed up and same thing yu told is applied to yu how much yu have been paid by bitchpack 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2 likesit definitely sucks that dogpack was lying about so much shit, but mrbeast is still a shitty and questionable guy regardless (which i know u touch on in the vid dw). was waiting for a commentary yter i like and trust to make a vid on this. good job!!!!
1452 likesedit: yes i know a lot of dogpack’s claims were completely disproven, i accept that and acknowledge that mr beast is innocent in those departments, but this video does not cover ALL of the mr beast accusations and drama, just dogpack’s, as well as jake weddle’s briefly.
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@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl are you acoustic the cry ptoscams are real exposed by
0 likesCo ffryzilla and one of the illigale gambling was true i used a singular and do you know why i put a space because my comments are getting deleted so if this gets deleted ikd what to do
@@WhyThoOz He knew about kris tyson being a pdf file he recommendet kris tyson to watch the video and didn't acually pay for the hospitl that cured blindness also no im not dogpack404 fan but still doesn't mean that mrbeast is like the antichrist no but does it mean what he done id bad yes so nobody is innocene and he isn't the worst sorry for my bad englisch
0 likes@@SKNTAi A youtuber who is known for his philanthropy and, now, illegal gambling is NOT the same as a serial pdf file, trafficker and kidnapper who was barely even known in the first place for financing
0 likes@shadowed69 He's not, you believing the word of the guy who never actually told them of the guy's history until much later when the person actually was kicked.
0 likes@shadowed69 with no proof too! Where is the soggy exposed video?
0 likesThis video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
0 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@Ceratisa exactly
0 likes@@lyndisrobinHe really didn't the vid made it very clear that only adults could enter it.
0 likes@@SKNTAiOnly the latter possibly, the former was disproven if you watched the vid.
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnthno
0 likesAgreed, seems nobody else really went deep into this so seemed neet!
0 likes@@SKNTAi But in this video he debunks the illegal lotteries?
0 likesDidn't you watch the video or did I miss something?
@NoName-lf6kc bro stop using charity as a shield, let me name some people who positively impacted a group of people with charity, Oh we have Jeffery Epstein, that Austrian painter (my reply will get deleted), Kris Tyson (involvement will mrbeast) they must be great people
2 likes@NoName-lf6kc wow, you got hostile quick, I was just saying that he's not in the clear, whether or not he's a good person is determined by whether he does charity to make money or if he makes money to do charity, him teaming up with Logan Paul and ksi isn't a good look on him and the beast games allegations were backed up by actual hospitals. Just because dogpack was evil and wrong doesn't mean that Mr beast is a saint. Lunchly mold and beast games were both examples that Mr beast can't be trusted to handle a business setting. Also, why hasn't mr beast responded to the allegations yet. Soggy shouldn't have to be the one to destroy dogpacks credibility, Mr beast could've given the same info. If Mr beasts end goal is just to make money, then his charity isn't charity, it's a job. Doctors save lives and make money, but it's not charity because they're doing it for money. If Mr Beast's charity is just for the money then he's never done a charity in his life. If you gain more than the person you're helping then you're not doing charity. I was always on the fence because of this, the entirety of lunchly seems to show that Mr beast is a capitalist, not a philanthropist.
1 like@@qykolas but he still has positively impacted the world more than you. I don't care if he's the greediest person on the planet(your other allegations haven't been proven), he's still done more charitable deeds than this entire comment section ever will
0 likes@@qykolasthis is all true. i typed out a massive comment about all of the other shit he did but unfortunately youtube didn’t let me post it.
0 likes@@NoName-lf6kc mate read my above reply, Mr beast isn't completely innocent
0 likes@@lyndisrobin i was always skeptical about the drama but when he dropped lunchly the it basically destroyed any possibility of innocence for me. The dogpack allegations may have been false, but Mr beast still talked about Ava's dick on a discord with minors, he still partnered with two horrible people, the beast games stuff still happened, he's still ignorant of how to safely handle things, and the crypto scams allegations still stand
2 likesHow does it feel that a supposed trash person like Mr.Beast has changed more ppl's lives for the better than you all will ever do?
1 like@@ahobbyist9520 and no i don't defend dogpack404 anymore
1 likedid you watch the video🤔🤔
1 like@@ahobbyist9520 are you blind one was real i said the singular from illegal gambling was true even soggy cereal said that did you watch the video and what about the crypto scams from exposed by Coffezilla
1 like@@Jordanisokatnth There is absolutely no factual basis behind what you just said. All accusations of him being a horrible person have been disproven.
0 likes@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit the truth is mrbeast IS a horrible person, the worst ever part is an opinion
1 like@@Jordanisokatnth I don't care what Mr. Beast thinks of me, nor what he will do for me. What I care about is the truth. Which is what you should care about, too, not what people can do for you.
1 like@@toyotaurisit depends on what other YouTubers have done worse than Jimmy's "accusations" but yeah I agree Jimmy has done some bad stuff
0 likes@Thedarkbunnyrabbit yes, you're right. Everyone should be treated fairly. However, mrbeast doesn't know you, never heard of your username, never saw you subscribe to him, and will never put you in a video unless you have 10m< subscribers. And you still defend him with your life
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnth It's sad that you think the only people who deserve to be treated fairly and not slandered are the people you know, but that really says more about you than me.
0 likes@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit the only thing pathetic here is you sticking up for someone who doesn't know you
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnth "Huhuhu you're not getting swept up in the angry mob, you must be hoping for his favor!!!" Pathetic.
0 likes@MikeTheMaster102 because it effects more people than a single or small group of victims, now it's horrible this stuff happens but unless there was a youtuber similar to that Austrian painter then mrbeast is currently the crown holder
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnth alr but how does that make him worse than pedophiles and murderers lol
0 likes@MikeTheMaster102 it means it's hard for small creators to keep up, like myself, it's harder to grow now than like 2013 or smth
1 like@@Jordanisokatnth how is that bad i dont get it
0 likes@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit hop off man, he wont choose you for a video
1 like@@MikeTheMaster102 trust me I know of alot,i already explained this but youtubes heavy censorship deleted it, anyway he is without a doubt, his monopoly on the platform makes it easy for him to influence the algorithm into what ever topic he wants, want curing blindness, sure! want $1 vs $1,000,000, go ahead! he can choose this on a whime, now that make shim the worst creator to ever join the platform
1 like@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit i think people are being a bit hard on him considering the ones that werent disproven werent that serious
0 likes@@lyndisrobin 1: he wasnt that rich when he was gambling, 2: its not unethical he aint hurting noone, 3: how do you know hes a addict your making stuff up all you know is he gambled atleast once while under 21 and the word addict is thrown around
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnth if mrbeast is the worst you have ever seen you havent seen many youtubers
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnth Oh yes, you're right. He did one 'illegal lottery' the first time he did a giveaway, like all youtubers do, not realizing that it was illegal. What a horror! That totally makes him a bad person.
0 likesDogpack actually managed to make Mr Beast look like a saint compared to him, ironically
0 likes@Thedarkbunnyrabbit not all
0 likes@@ahobbyist9520 the first case is still illegal
0 likes@@SKNTAibro didn’t watch the video - the illegal gambling got disproved
1 like"I know ALL the accusations were proven untrue, but he's still a bad guy."
0 likes@@miglek9613 wow my reply with the words "jesus ***** christ" got deleted but someone who also has it didnt?
1 like@@lyndisrobin How is his personal issues unethical ? Gambling is a personal vice, as long as harms no one else, why do you care ?
0 likes@@qykolasexactly. it’s two shitty parties against one another.
0 likes@@testacals…because he is quite literally a gambling addict and it is illegal? and, yeah it is pretty unethical. he thinks that him being filthy rich is more important than the law.
5 likesYeah, just because dogpack wasn't a good guy doesn't mean that Mr beast is completely innocent.
5 likes@miglek9613 jesus fucking christ, however there is only 1 victim there, which my condolences of course, that must be horrible for her. Now mrbeast currently has an algorithm empire and has brainwashed kids, parents and even youtubers alike. Into believing he is some kind of saint, now since dog pack has shot himself in the foot with a rocket launcher the general public is back to pro mrbeast, is that not bad?
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnth he definitely isn't the worst of the famous youtubers tho. Don't forget that Onision, who literally adopted a 14 year old girl with the goal of dating her in a few years (and was actually cauht by Chris Hansen), is still on youtube kids (or at least was at the start of the year) and that's pretty difficult to top
2 likes@user-kf4gt7bo2k did you finish the video? There is literally footage of him hiring Delaware. Or are you ignoring it deliberately?
0 likes@user-kf4gt7bo2k and I assume ur just talking about the first rso section because the evidence he provides later doesn't rly fit the situation ur telling mr
0 likes@@user-kf4gt7bo2k Stop sucking of dogpacks bro. he literally lied.
0 likes@@arielperez3613 Being young does excuse certain level of mistakes. I don't expect a 19 year old to run a company perfectly.
0 likes@@lyndisrobin Bro, who tf cares if Mr beast gambled with his own money before 21 ?? Sure it's illegal but it aint unethical
0 likes@user-kf4gt7bo2k and if assuming the girl is dogpack that would also be like the girl making evidence up too wouldn't it?
0 likes@user-kf4gt7bo2k assuming the girl is dogpack who would be the "couple other people"
0 likes@@Jordanisokatnth worse than kiddy didlers ?
0 likes@@goldenmonke7582 He is not arguing dogpacks overall claim that mr beast did a certain thing. He is arguing the details of the claim that are always going to be wrong when everyone says what is happening.
7 likesIt is like a girl claiming some guy graped her and then there are a couple people that confirm it but then someone comes out and says but look she said she was wearing a red dress that night and here is a picture of her in a blue dress. Because she got that detail wrong then we cant trust anything she says (even though there is other evidence/people saying it did happen).
@@goldenmonke7582 It doesnt change the fact that he hired one. That was the claim. Yes they added the whole nickname story implying that everyone knew about it but regardless of that story there is a very good chance that everyone at the company knew about it which is why he started wearing a mask. Yes there is one video from way back in the day from when he was working at best buy but unless you do a deep dive you arent going to find that. And also they would have no reason to put him in a mask at that point because he was working for another company. My personal belief is that they hired him not knowing he was an RSO but because of all the locker room talk. It started spreading as a rumor around the office and that joke about him not being allowed in Delaware was most likely born out of those rumors. But eventually, Mrbeast did know about it or heard something and could have let him go but kept him on payroll and in videos and they decided on wearing a mask.
0 likes@user-kf4gt7bo2k my personal take a out the rso nickname stuff is that he said dogpack lied about the origin on the nickname saying that's its because he did the crimes in Delamere. But u could see Delamere on the dudes uniform from best buy. Since the nickname is allegedly tied to his previous crimes I think it's relevant and we should talk about it. It also shows dogpack is wiling to make stuff up to prove a point IMO feel free to correct me
0 likes@@user-kf4gt7bo2kabout the chris ava tyson pdf art bs I believe he did cover that in a previous video
0 likes@@user-kf4gt7bo2kpersonally I think the interviews hold more substance . And tbh I don't understand what ur trying to say english is my 2nd language could u simplify?
0 likesSoggy is such a glazer. He wont get off of mrbeasts junk. Sorry but his whole argument was Dogpack lied about where is nickname came from and then just says "Yea he was a RSO... but dogpack LIED about his nickname!!!" The outrage we should be feeling because he lied about his nickname. I lost all respect for soggy. There have been multiple things confirmed by mrbeast employees/friends like admitting he is an RSO and he was hired at mrbeast and he did wear a mask in 99% of the video.
5 likesI havent finished watching but I have a feeling soggy will do this the whole time. He will twist one little part of the claim and ignore the big picture. I wonder what he is going to say about not know Chris(Ava) is into pdf art even though he lived with him and had a poster right up in the living room.
Edit" Yep I was right. So now soggy is arguing over whether the word warcrime was used as a joke or was serious instead of the fact that MRBEAST tortured someone for a frickin video. Whether it was a joke or not they still did it and it was by mrbeasts direction for more/better content. This is not real life anymore. When you are so invested in proving that your idol isnt a bad guy this is the stuff you start to argue about. Semantics. Please someone update me in the comment which of these arguments hold substance and at what time stamp because I cant watch this trash anymore.
Imma be honest, i think that might get debunked too
0 likesAlmost everything they said about mr beast was debunked. Lets wait for more evidence
@@SKNTAi
Did you watch the fucking video? @@SKNTAi
0 likes@@arielperez3613 Did you even watch this video like at all?? Or are you simply too dumb to comprehend information? How the heck was 18 year old mrbeast supposed to know an employee is a s offender when a multi-million dollar company did not have any clue about it.. Also how can you still trust jake the viking when he is one of those people who has been criticised by BOTH sides of this drama- both weddle and mrbeast employees have called him out for being a jerk.
0 likesSure.. but you sitll have to do it correctly..hes not a great guy business wise.. but hes not what dogpack is making him out to be either
2 likes@@arielperez3613 i agree and said he can be criticized for it, but dogpack framed it as though jimmy 100% knew. Hiring an rso knowingly is way worse than unintentionally hiring one. Especially at that young of an age. Also if Delaware was already a manager at a large store brand like best buy I think it would be reasonable to assume theyve done a background check already, but that's just me being charitable.
10 likes@@joebrewbergBeing young doesn’t excuse the lack of responsibility, especially when he had the opportunity to set a better example for millions of people, including vulnerable audiences. Even if the hire was unintentional (which I don’t even know if that’s true because Jimmy knew according to Jake the Viking), the failure to vet his team properly reflects poor judgment that shouldn’t be overlooked.
3 likes@@arielperez3613he can be 100% be criticized for being wreckless and not doing background checks, but doing so unknowingly is no where near as bad as hiring them knowingly. Also keep in mind he was like 18/19 at the time and the channel was like 5 people and not an entire company with an HR department like it is now. Ignoring this context is just being intentionally dishonest.
12 likes@@AdrianAnimations360he hired a rso
2 likes@@lyndisrobin As he also pointed out by means of the captain Sparkles vid, it is very easy to do that without realising. In the next streams he fixed his mistake
2 likes@@db1671he is manipulating his child audience into buying his poorly made products (lunchly, feastables, beast labs) because he wanted to make a quick buck, he has participated in illegal gambling to make a quick buck, he has harbored pedophiles in his company that he knew were pedophiles (ava tyson), he has made allies with terrible people (elon musk, logan paul), the working conditions of his “challenges” are questionable and many women contestants have reported being harassed, rigging results of his “challenges, he has participated in crypto scams, his “curing blind people” video actually wound up being very harmful to the blind community, he is just another white rich man “philanthropist” who has built a false, harmful narrative about africa, etc. even if dogpack lied about a ton of shit there is no excusing all of that other stuff, something soggy cereal briefly mentions in the video.
0 likes@lyndisrobin why do you call him shitty- what did he do wrong then?
0 likessome of these replies are INSANE jesus fucking christ 💀
5 likesMr Beast is a good person - people just jealous
0 likes@@xeralt2914 Soggy cereal said himself there was one illegale gambling like i said and the crypto scams exposed by Coffezilla
0 likes@@justatestlilbro-nr3ks Jeffrey epstein did the same thing he isnt that bad
15 likes@@xeralt2914actually it is not. soggy quite literally said that the first instance of illegal lottery was in fact technically illegal. also even though its not talked about here, mr beast did do underage gambling. in north carolina it’s illegal to gamble when ur under 21 and he gambled in his late teen years on a gambling site that is illegal to use for everyone regardless.
18 likesyall he made people see. and hear and built 100 homes and wells in africa. he isnt that bad
5 likes@@xeralt2914 one was made soggy cereal also confirmed one but the crypto scams where exposed By Coffezilla that's why watch the video before Commenting
0 likes@@toyotauris yea people portray him as if hes an anti human who nuked a city lol
4 likes@@SKNTAi bruh did you watch the video ? the illegal gambling has been busted
17 likes@@AdrianAnimations360 if 99% of youtubers did this, they would be cancelled or deplatformed
12 likes@@MeandMe-js7gp ok
1 like@Sandyy_sandy bro he is worst than a child predator and trafficker. First off war crimes, second off monopoly of the whole platform, third off friends with said cp/t and hired too, even after he knew of his true intentions
1 like@@Jordanisokatnth bro if he is the worse you've seen then you've seen nothing
24 likesI'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
43 likesThey know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form
They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor
I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours
Life's a fight, but trust, I'm ready for the war
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king
Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring
See, I believe that if I see it in my heart
Smash through the ceilin' 'cause I'm reachin' for the stars
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
Highway to heaven, I'm just cruisin' by my lone'
They cast me out, left me for dead, them people cold
My faith in God, mind in the sun, I'm 'bout to sow (yeah)
My life is hard, I took the wheel, I cracked the code
Yeah (whoa-oh-oh)
Ain't nobody gon' save you, man, this life will break you
(Whoa-oh-oh) in the thick of it
This is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows (everybody knows)
They know me where it snows, I skied in, and they froze (yeah)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told (ooh-ooh)
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na-na-na-na, ay-ay)
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na)
I guess this is how the story goes
@@AdrianAnimations360 "not as bad as others" doesn't mean good though to be fair
83 likes@@AdrianAnimations360he is the worst I have ever seen
20 likes@@AdrianAnimations360yes, he is worse
71 likes@@AdrianAnimations360He's a crypto scammer
119 likes@@AdrianAnimations360 He did illegal gambling and Crypo scams
238 likes@@AdrianAnimations360We should all be thankful MrBeast isn't a Jaystation/QuantumTV level scumbag that throws everything out of the window for the sake of money
0 likesMrbeast is a craphead who always loves to have his company be Logan Paul and KSI still
It's just that this story is fucked up from every standpoint and every side and i expect that MrBeast meatrider who is in the most replies of the comments here to chime in like the smug, worthless bofoon that they are because honestly, they are just as pathetic as MrBreast and DogPack
Sorry for the outburst, just had to chime in
True but he’s not as bad as other YouTubers
31 likesMaybe the real Mr beast drama were the friends we made along the way
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Real
0 likesWho was recording that conversation of him talking to the COO? Curious. After watching this video, it’s opened my eyes to just how we really need to always second guess things and do our own research. Because people may have bad motives and use heavy manipulation to direct a narrative. Love the videos you’ve done. Subscribed after you called out Airracks fake videos.
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@@poopypants9983exactly it’s a small part of the video, did you regret saying those things and what are those things? It’s cut in a way to discredit someone.
0 likes@@severance101yes true
0 likes@@FrankBrennosTheGreatestyes too convenient.
0 likesAre you fucking sure a small employee is going to talk to the COO for being fired, the audio is clearly fake.
0 likesThis video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
1 likeSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@FrankBrennosTheGreatest People commenting to you seem to miss one question, "Where's the rest of the audio?".
0 likes@@FrankBrennosTheGreatest security cams often have audio esp in big places its just usual trashy audio, I imagine they record it to use if someone sues for son dumb like getting fired rightfully.
0 likeswhere I work has audio and video on cameras but you have to raise your voice for it to make sense....
@@FrankBrennosTheGreatestif you’ve done nothing wrong you have all the more reason to record to prevent anyone making completely false allegations, so you can easily disprove these
1 likeWife has been an HR Manager at many companies for the last 20+ years. Most employers/Human Resources departments record all interactions - especially during hiring/suspensions/firing - for compliance & litigation cases. Many states do not require disclosure that you state you are recording, whereas 2 party states have to disclose it. It’s to protect the company because so many people try to claim sexism, racism, and more when they are doing their interviews and/or exit interviews (firings). It’s not the least bit uncommon with bigger companies especially
3 likes@@noot-noot-pingu-noot-noot you do realize that you can just add the background noises and overlapping talking in yourself after getting the ai recording right. big oversight in your thinking bud
3 likes@@unity2808 I have never had a job interview that was recorded. I've never been fired though, I'll admit that, but I can't imagine these being recorded either in most cases. If you've done nothing wrong as a company and you have a valid reason for terminating someone's contract, you shouldn't have anything to fear. I don't see what's to gain from recording the moment you fire the person. If anything, it's a good way to put pressure on someone who might say something wrong in a moment of vulnerability. It's shady AF.
3 likes@@FrankBrennosTheGreatesthey so fun fact! Most companies record job interviews and firings so that if and when a case is made against them for violating anti discrimination laws you can make a case easier! Just letting you know!
5 likesfrom the volume of the voices it sounds like dogpack's manager was recording it, and personally i believe it's a genuine recording bc the audio sounds too complex for ai to generate (the various volumes of people in the room, and overlapping talking at some points) but i definitely agree that there should be an explanation of how he got the recording in the first place, especially in a video about debunking info
7 likesit could be AI generated
8 likes@@thescooshinator Security cameras don't have audio, except rare exceptions.
6 likesMy guess is that it's probably from a security camera or something similar.
0 likesit just precaution for a lot of companies. A good reason is to defend from lawsuit if the ex-employee retaliate with lawsuit.
6 likesThat recording is suspicious to me and all too convenient (assuming it's real). The only reason one might have to record this kind of conversations is because they're scared of being accused of something. Also, if you're aware you're being recorded and the other person isn't, you can really manipulate the outcome in your favor. IMHO this just adds to fuel against MrBeast and his company, rather than make DogPack untrustworthy.
39 likesMaybe it was the COO and the other people like the managers recording maybe
8 likesThank god they recorded that conversation to have proof later of how badly he wanted that job. Dogpack turned out to be the exact kind of person you never want to hire, and somehow "slipped thru the cracks" (as Dogpack would put it) into getting hired after being rejected TWICE. I think that his female coworker was being kind on how bad working alone with him in a room was.
14 likesHow about the allegation of him promoting gambling to kids with a video of a minor doing a virtual slot machine?
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Is that it? That’s it? Ok.
0 likesIt's not gambling ffs. Simply just Google or ask ChatGBT what gambling is...
0 likesA slot machine ain't gambling... If U bet real life money or asset on it which you'd lose if U don't win is what gambling is...
When U r buying chocolate to enter a game based on slot machine, U r not losing anything, cuz U already paid your money for chocolate, no one taking that chocolate away from u...
If U don't lose any property it's not gambling by definition
yeah bro why are you asking legit questions 😔😔😔😔😔😣🥲😖😖🫣😫😫😫
4 likesStop trying to defend Dogpack, None of them are in the right
1 likeNobody is saying Mr beast is a good person. Just that this dudes full of shit
9 likesWhy are you asking legit questions
13 likespeople wanna believe that they are free thinkers so bad but as soon as a video like this drops, they suddenly switch sides. how about you stay neutral bc none of these people know you and don’t blindly support either side as soon as they say something new
563 likesEDIT: YOURE ALLOWED TO CHANGE YOUR MIND WHEN NEW EVIDENCE IS SHOWN,
for fuck sake, I’m not saying that you’re not, I just meant it’s funny how a lot people say that they’re going to remain neutral until the situation is nearly over, yet they bandwagon on either side of the extreme when it comes to information that’s still word of mouth
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0 likesImplying it's not possible for a free thinker to change their mind on something when they gain new information is just dumb. There's no point in being as stubborn and thick headed when the evidence is laid out clearer and more coherent than any of dogpack's videos
2 likesNothing neutral about this, Mr Beast is a children scamming pos. What other discusion to even have?
0 likes@@BaconerriaCongrats you won custom painted mr beast car with MR BEAST on the car.
0 likes@@misomar7193 i see very few comments admitting they agreed with dogpack and i see very few comments on dogpacks video admitting they liked mrbeast, atleast some people are pretending that they were always right
0 likes@ read my reply to some1 else who said the same thing as you
0 likesNuh-uh. I'm glad being a sheep
0 likes@@MikeTheMaster102 that argument is so dumb bc the people making those comments aren’t the same people. you’re telling me the same person who said “i knew it” on the other video are the exact same ppl on this one saying “i knew it”
3 likesAs someone who was stayed out of the entire drama and has remained as neutral as possible until everything blows over and all the information is revealed...
1 likeYes, people should do that more often, and while I do generally lean towards Mr Beast, I have stayed more or less neutral in the whole situation with Mr Beast.
So we’re not allowed to switch sides? Got it.
3 likesI feel like this is true as when someone else thought Jimmy didn't do that, they basically forced them to believe them, and I think now it's gonna be the opposite
0 likes@ I’m not saying you can’t change your mind when actual evidence comes to light, I just think it’s funny how many people say they’re going to remain neutral until the situation is near over, yet they bandwagon on either side of the extreme when it’s still he said she said
0 likesagain, you can feel how you want abt facts but when it’s still “allegedly blah blah blah” it’s strange how quick netizens jump on that narrative
Ive always been on mrbeasts side, i don't believe you should hate on a guy js cus some egirl is mad
0 likesguys don't have opinions based on facts, if you have an opinion you have to stick by it till you die!!!!!
1 likeNah, I have a foolproof system, where I just believe whatever I saw most recently. 47% of the time, it works EVERY time!!
2 likesbro when mrbeast got "cancelled" i was laughing at all the comments on dogpack's video like "i knew there was something off about mrbeast" or "wait people didnt know his vids were fake?" now dogpack gets exposed and everyone was like "bro i knew the whole time mrbeast was innocent" and "ive been on mrbeasts side the whole time" i never chose a side fully but mrbeasts side of the story always seemed more reasonable to me
3 likesHis downfall in my eyes happened after he released his second video. I couldn’t put my finger on it at the time, but a lot about Jake Weddle’s story just felt off. Like it was straight out of a movie. After reviewing his story again and Jake tarnishing his credibility by taking money from Mr. Beast, I knew this guy was just a crybaby who doesn’t want to take any accountability in his life. Seeing as how Dawson is willing to associate and relentlessly defend Jake, I knew he was an untrustworthy source
3 likesI never believed Dogpack for a second, So if anything I'm just glad the truth has finally come out.
3 likesthe thing is --- people are free thinkers --- but people are also prone to falling for propaganda whether it be on a large or small scale. i think this video demonstrates just how easy it was for many people to do their own research into the claims since much of it was readily available and that those who did, were disregarded. after all, a lie travels quicker than the truth - especially when you have a loud enough megaphone.
13 likesI don’t get paid to research a topic that has 0 impact on my life like silly drama. So ill change sides with new information but in the end it really doesn’t matter
9 likes@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit google is free
0 likesYou know people don't care. People like to hate, either one side or the other. The only person I mildly trust from this video is Dustin. Probably because of the beard.
2 likesThis video says literally what I have said since Dogpack's initial video dropped. He was obviously a lying disgruntled employee and I have shut him out ever since.
29 likesNew info is new info man, we all have lives outside the internet, I think
54 likesAI generated interview hmmmmm
1 likenah nah nah trust, mrbeast will buy me a new car
36 likesGLORY TO BEASTOTZKA!!!!
That’s how the media works
9 likesHow the fuck did you have any access to such private informations like Dogpack firing audio record? Even Coffeezilla, a YouTuber much more bigger than you cannot even contacted an employee.
31 likesThis is just another damage control i guess?
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@@stanmangamer2264 idc about dogpack, but Mr beast is still doing bad shit, and even if dogpack is lying, that doesn't mean all the allegations towards Mr beast aren't true.
1 like@@strateks9611 did you get confused? I’m not defending Mr beast, I’m making it abundantly clear that dogpack is worse
2 likescould be but still if mrbeast could have sold this man out he would have defended mrbeast completely. He says most allegations are true in the video and that hes just adressing the ones that he thinks that arent true and ones that he knows of. I do agree with you on the private information part though, strange. Maybe he had connections with mrbeast members even before the drama started, all the talking he got with that manager dude says so.
1 likeIm not sure though
@@strateks9611 I’m sure Mr pack would let you hit because he’s gonna need all the support he can get
1 likeI’m sure he has the majority anyways since his 5 year old audience just wants to hate someone more popular
@@stanmangamer2264 Mr.Beast is not gonna let you hit lil bro 😭
3 likes@@RadenHZ26 there is literally no defending dog pack anymore, especially since his not monetized videos are now monetized
0 likesbecause coffee is actually good investigator and they cannot control him unlike soggy.
3 likesHop off
1 likeThere are no heroes in this war, just more villains.
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@@Bockanator ever heard of an expression?
0 likesdude its youtube slop drama not war
3 likesthey r probably doing a competition on who could be the most villainous
1 likeMe deleting my comment calling this video propaganda just for it to come out that this video is propaganda two days later is hilarious
9 likes(For anyone wondering, someone at Mr. Beast paid for Soggy Cereal’s flight to the US. Then Mr. Beast started begging drama channels to cover this video. As a reply said on another comment, Mr. Beast “100% had editorial control.” This is just another variation on “I’ve investigated myself and concluded I have done nothing wrong.”)
Everyone who fell for this is extremely gullible because it hit a bunch of propaganda 101 language in the first five minutes.
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@@Lacewise hey how did you find out that mrbeast begged drama channels? I just know from chud logic interview with soggy that mrbeast paid soggy
0 likes@@Lacewise soggy wasnt paid though?
2 likes@@maximusbeltraplacian5747 Chud Lud stream.
1 like@@MrMarcusGD I am so sorry your education failed you. If you receive gifts or compensation from a subject, you have to throw the entire investigation out and someone else has to redo it from scratch. It’s not credible if you have been paid.
2 likes@@maximusbeltraplacian5747 he admits in a Chud Lud stream a “Mr. Beast employee” paid for his flight tickets.
1 like"propaganda" mrbeast asked people to cover it so people wont think hes that bad as dogpack said.
3 likesAlso even if he was paid (he wasnt) the video still disproves the allegations so your argument doesnt make sense.
That your assumption or heresay? Can you show me where this is said so i get the full picture?
3 likesI commend you for doing real journalism. I will admit that I was one of the people that fell for dogpack's allegations and I commend you for taking the time to truly dive into all these allegations. Not just doing in depth research, viewing the allegations from a more charitable perspective, but I was incredibly impressed that you flew to America at your own expense and did these interviews. Again, thank you for doing real journalism and fantastic video!
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This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
1 likeSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@TheTrueBlueOne Can't speak for anyone else but not me. I've been watching soggy for a few years now and I trust his opinion. Also the evidence is just much better researched and believable in hindsight compared to dogpack
0 likesI didn't fall for it because he was so intense with his original accusations of the whole place being surrounded and busted by police, then bringing 0 evidence of something THAT extreme... it just seemed outrageous. What's his personal gripe?? Pretty obviously he's resentful... I'm only 10 mins in the vid I hope it's stated
0 likes@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh no doubt there imo but suit yourself
0 likes@@tobyonatabe2601Benefit of the doubt.
1 like1. MrBeast was not active enough to pick up the individual ages of every person present. Chat logs show that there is no activity from MrBeasts side whenever a minor would be mentionning their age.
2. The server was originally for Chris' ADULT friend group to play video games. Eventually those friends invited other friends and grew a community, where the minors actually come from. MrBeast did not know Lava prior to this.
3. MrBeast was typically not very social with the strangers (would include both adults and minors) in the server (stated by Brainfreak)
@@legaming2678Yo guys can you tell me what mrbeast was charge for that he hasn't accounted for or were not fake
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOneits not jumping ship its disproving alegations with facts noone is picking sides here
1 likepeople really have short term memory loss
1 likethe moment somebody comes with a reasonably long video essay and speaks in an academic tone against soggy, yall would jump ship again
dont listen to this guy, hes also a fraud
2 likesSo apparently and allegedly this guy Dustin and this other people out of nowhere decides to speak with him because of a slop video? And when do these interviews happen? Am I supposed to believe it happened after the internal investigation? Didn't the investigators retain/recommend employees during the investigation to not make public statements in order to ensure accurate information and avoid witness getting tainted?
4 likes@@Zewind
0 likesK
@@legaming2678 Yea i never said dogpack was entirely wrong lol
2 likes@@liamzoro
1 likeWhere are you going after you die?
What happens next? Have you ever thought about that?
Repent today and give your life to Jesus Christ to obtain eternal salvation. Tomorrow may be too late my brethen😢.
Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto man once to die, but after that the judgement
@@Zewind
5 likesHe still gave valid accusations that Jimmy hasn’t responded to, and Jimmy instead of trying to respond decides to comment on this video.
You mean by not relying on trust me bro & doing actual work.
0 likesGeometry Dash
0 likesGayest comment of all time award
0 likesHe still exposed mrbeast, don't get ahead of yourself. The leaked chat logs, ava Chris Tyson's activities, illegal auctions etc are undeniable proof of wrongdoing on Jimmy's part.
43 likes@@liamzoro Lol how strange that you found my comment!
1 likeIkr! There's a good reason Soggy is one of my fav youtubers <333
0 likes@@MeandMe-js7gpGET OU-
0 likesI'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
16 likesThey know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form
They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor
I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours
Life's a fight, but trust, I'm ready for the war
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king
Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring
See, I believe that if I see it in my heart
Smash through the ceilin' 'cause I'm reachin' for the stars
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
Highway to heaven, I'm just cruisin' by my lone'
They cast me out, left me for dead, them people cold
My faith in God, mind in the sun, I'm 'bout to sow (yeah)
My life is hard, I took the wheel, I cracked the code
Yeah (whoa-oh-oh)
Ain't nobody gon' save you, man, this life will break you
(Whoa-oh-oh) in the thick of it
This is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows (everybody knows)
They know me where it snows, I skied in, and they froze (yeah)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told (ooh-ooh)
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na-na-na-na, ay-ay)
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na)
I guess this is how the story goes
Fell? He was right at first, he just basically suicided all attempts after
30 likes@@liamzorowait liamzoro what are you doing here 🤣
6 likesZewind what are you doing here 🤣
5 likesThis situation will never end
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@@ashvio What else does the guy say?
0 likes"Situation" situation is crazy
2 likesunlimited slop
1 likeThis is just the beginning 😑
0 likesGive your audience this information 🙏
0 likesnot if low efford youtubers like you keep posting useless videos about it
0 likesNever Ending Situation Is Crazy
6 likesIts NOT over morepegasus
8 likesYeah it keeps getting worse and bigger
4 likesnickcheezy all the way
0 likesMan i always thought i was good at media literacy and misonformarion recognition but i really bought every single lie dogpack presented. Im very thankful for you diligence and hope we all learn a bit from this situation.
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@@sanitygone-l9ythats literally what i said lol
0 likes@@awsomerobyn2603 They are not doing the same Thing and soggy acknowleges that mr beast is doing and has done shady shit but that doesnt make anything dogpack said true lol
0 likes@@fleacosmos66 i watched the videos twice and Soggy disproves Almost every claim he makes. But even if he didnt disprove everything the fact that dogpack made up so much shit and was so shitty in the DMS to Soggy is enough
0 likesI implore you to watch Dogpack’s video again, Soggy does not actually mention a lot of Dogpack’s claims, rather focusing on minor details that he can attack.
0 likesSoggy is using this time when the memory of Dogpack’s original claims has faded from recent memory to manipulate people opinions.
The best way to combat misinformation is to listen to both sides of the conversation.
@@droketheroperright lol. It’s not even hidden. The flight is all you need to think about. But the access to employees is sooo obvious, nobody else says peep but this guy walks into down and everyone clears their calendar? 😂
1 likeThis video is also sketchy. Soggy even admitted that Mr beast paid for his flight to the US to film this and he gave him access to a bunch of high level beast employees.
1 likeThis isn’t unbiased at all either.
@@beatmagas8953 Because one basic quick look at the videos he's talking about would very easily show that CGI was not being used in the actual stunt.
0 likesThis video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
2 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
@@sanitygone-l9y how is the CGI not relevant to DogPack's video when his point was that the videos are faked?
1 likeThis whole video was financed with mister beast money. A beast worker paid for soggy tickets to fly over there for the interview...
1 likeI didn't :D
0 likesI also will stand by my belief that Colleen Balinger is not a groomer and should not have been cancelled
She could have changed some things, like not interacting so personally with fans and having more respect for fans. But other than that, mob mentality and resentment was used by Adam successfully just like with Dogpack and the mob mindset bewilders me so insanely much
Not the same for me, everything he did and said was incredibly fishy. I think people are very easily susceptible to mob mentality and wanting to rally against a supposed villain more than they think. The claims he made were downright ridiculous, unsubstantiated. He made a few decent claims. That dude he brought on was so fishy too.
0 likesSame
0 likesHonestly I think its easy to just get swept up in the drama
same TwT
0 likes@ That is true, but we will have to wait and see. The topic is very contentious and it’s obvious not everyone in the situation is telling the whole truth.
0 likesHopefully but these comments that may still not believe soggy, I hope you are right because the more time passes, the more hate Jimmy gets
0 likes@@Smokin_5.56weird AL yankovic? Duh
0 likes@@grunkleg.2934 he could be but it depends on some of the points. He has presented a lot of evidence for many points. A lot of dogpack’s allegations were from anonymous Mr beast employees while the ones that soggy presented come from named, real Mr beast employees. I trust the word of someone who is provably from Mr beast than someone who is unknown. Of course the employee may have a bias but when the only thing backing up dogpack’s allegations is a mystery person you probably shouldn’t trust it.
0 likesFor example, it is proved that Delaware’s name was not given to him by Mr beast and was actually from when he worked at Best Buy. However, the theory is that Mr Beast was hiring people to work at his company and found Delaware as a best buy manager and assumed they would have done background checks on him and hired him to his company before knowing he was an RSO. That is an assumption but it makes a lot of sense because Jimmy was like 18 years old at the time and his mom probably would not have hired Delaware had she known he was RSO (that is an assumption not backed by evidence). Also Jake the Viking was hired after Delaware was, so I doubt Jake actually knew how Delaware was hired.
Ah, but could not Soggy also be lying about things in this video, and you yourself are buying it all completely?
5 likes@@Smokin_5.56AL jokes
0 likesI mean, I did used to believe some of what he said, but I also kept waiting for Mr Beast himself to respond to it before making a final decision.
3 likesPlus, I don't think you can fabricate so much about someone without having at least a sliver of truth, to give it legitimacy. I say don't feel too bad if this slipped past you. Mr.Beast did not help his own case by not saying a word if this was all lies that could be refuted and the kernels of truth "legitimized" the lies in the eyes of many people.
Me too. I feel so silly for blindly believing Dogpack's lies.
0 likeswell he is very good at manipulating people, so dont worry bro
1 likeIf you believed DogPack without any sort of questioning or scrutiny, your media literacy and misinformation recognition skills really aren't the best. Just because a video is well edited and presented in a serious tone, does not mean it is gospel. Always be critical of what you consume, no matter who it comes from. That said, it was rather obvious that a lot of the accusations were going to be baseless when he started going after "CGI" that wasn't even relevant to the video in the first couple of minutes 😭😭😭
6 likesIf you bought everything Dogpack said, then you were never good at those things to begin with. There were people calling out his lies the entire time, and people just wrote it off as riding for Mr. Beast. Those same people are like “wOw, I cAnT bElIeVe He LiEd” as if they haven’t written off people calling it out.
1 likeEveryone believes they have good media literacy when the accusations are directed at someone they already find disagreeable. "My guy" though? Always innocent.
6 likesYea I don't blame you it is extremely easy to make fake evidence all you need is to hire someone make fake conversations and boom you can frame them for cheating
1 likeSame
2 likessame bro
0 likesThis is why I never trust ANYONE on the internet. Always do your own research
4 likesListen ok.
15 likesCan we just all at least acknowledge that these two are practically doing the same thing - they both have almost no evidence to prove that there statements are in fact true
Plus I don’t really think that mr beast is the best person - not for the reasons that were told in either videos - mr beast comes off as a chronic lier who shows little to no remorse. Manipulating people and others situations for his own benefit - giving away such a small percentage of his money is a way of him making more money and collecting an audience of people who will defend him no matter what.
I thought i was good at recognizing misinformation but clearly not. I blindly believed everything the dog guy said without actually fact checking anything. But as they always say: the moment you believe you can’t be scammed is probably the moment it will happen.
8 likesAnd you still didn't have any inkling of a possible motive that Jimmy's brand could be posturing this at all. You sweet summer child.
7 likesidiot believed his lies that had no proof
2 likesThe first video was the only one I fell for. After that I could mostly see through the BS.
3 likesThis whole situation made me feel that I am good at media literacy and misinformation recognition, but in whole honesty I probably am not and was just able to tell this one isolated time.
7 likes@@loslingos1232 Who's AL and why should we think about him?
10 likesAgreed. Now think about AI....
3 likesIt’s crazy to me how many people fell for dogpack sheesh
15 likesJust be glad you’re not doubling down on dogpack now you have the proof he’s lying.
46 likesI think a good position to take no matter what when something like this happens is to “wait for both sides” as I did
84 likesWhile I did that I gathered information and responses from other people
Same dude, same :(
14 likesMe too
11 likesthe fact that delaware remained hired, to a point where he had to appear on video with a mask on means that at some point they found out and didnt care to fire him.
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You either didn't watch the whole video or just weren't paying attention.
0 likesjust because he remained hired doesnt mean they know. Companies just dont do daily background checks everyday.
0 likes@@godartz3064so then you saying it is baseless is also baseless in itself
0 likes@@yous2244 judging by the tone of the conversation, it doesn’t seem like Dawson is angry at all.
0 likesOr he probably begged them to keep him, thwg felt bad and did
0 likesExactly
0 likes@@godartz3064 he's literally on the fucking registry, fym no info
0 likesI would agree, but Jake specifically admitted that information to defend Delaware, so it seems pretty sound.
2 likesPlus, what reason would Delaware have to think that Jimmy wasn't going to run a background check on him? That's what most employers do. So obviously Delaware is going to explain himself before he immediately loses the job (which is what any RESPONSIBLE employer would have done).
@@shadowed69 I think Viking is untrustworthy, considering how he changed his story about his depature from MrBeast several times, continued to try to milk what he could from the situation (such as his tweets that "Jimmy knew", when that would mean that Jake ALSO knew), and trying to backtrack once it came out that Delaware was related to him. I'm not saying he's lying, but I would not take his word as the truth by itself
0 likes@@shadowed69 He pointed out some important context which Dogpack either missed or intentionally left out
1 likeSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
11 likesMaybe they let him be in a video and he chose to wear a mask to hide his face. That wouldn't necessitate them knowing about his past.
9 likesOr it could be a bit u don’t have any info on that nor do I so your accusation is baseless
3 likesDid MrBeast delete his Comment?
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can you link it @@ananyesh
0 likes@ I could barely see my reply, you broke my UI 💀
1 likeIt's not deleted tho because I have link still and i can see his comment
0 likes@@iceycones654 but you did reply
0 likes@@Anime_Oni he actually said Finally, a video that doesent spread baseless slander about me
0 likes@@Anime_OniHe may have deleted the comment, but he is going around telling other YouTubers to react the video on Instagram. He is probably trying out a new strategy.
1 like@@iCanOnlyHave30CharactersInMyNaI was going to reply but your name is so scuffed
0 likesI found his Comment in DingoBroLug video "MrBeast Is Innocent"
0 likes@@lirich0 The airfare for this was paid under the table by a MB affiliate named Dustin, because (by his own admission) Soggy couldn't afford it. The video literally wouldn't exist without help from a third party.
1 like@@superyamkyso it can be immortalized
0 likes@@superyamkypost it on ur community tab
0 likesHe probably finished the video and realised it didn't say mrbeast was a good person.
4 likesI got a screenshot of his comment before the deletion of his comment
6 likes"Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless
slander about me lol"
@@nazomius7033nope
0 likes@@lirich0Most likely too prideful and took the video in the wrong way
2 likesMost likely removed bc of backlash, soggy talking about coffeezilla’s vide & an all right pr issue
7 likes@@ermtosishe said
8 likes“Finally someone who doesn’t spread baseless rumours about me”
@@ermtosis he said something along the lines of "finally someone doesnt spread mindless slander against me lol"
16 likeswait no way did he actually say something?
2 likesHe deleted it so that his younger audience won’t know about the fake allegations
8 likesProbably deleted it to make sure it’s clear he didn’t pay soggy to make the video and soggy did it on his own accord
49 likesyes
14 likesPretty sure in less than a month we're gonna have someone debunking MrBeast, dogpack AND you 😭😭😭
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Nobody debunked his Aorrack claims so i doubt it
2 likesInfinite content glitch lmao
13 likesi find it wild that even after you repeatedly said that mr. beast isn't innocent or above criticism, some are still acting like you're waving a "jimmy is my lord and savior and benefactor" above your head the entire time. you showed how mr. beast and some of his orbit were their own type of ethical red flags AND that dogpack was trying to be both manipulative and threatening behind the scenes through your own exchanges, held very little regard to other creators when utilizing their platforms to spread his own narrative, and refused to hold himself to the same standards he claimed jimmy was guilty of --- which seemingly showed in his resumes to join the company.
100 likeswhile i don't want to believe his intentions were entirely from the perspective of a disgruntled employee, i've believed that his presentation of "facts" didn't align with what was available and felt as manipulative as mamamax's videos - where what truth the story held, was lost beneath too many layers of either tall tales or straight up tale-tales. the more time passed, the more it felt like he was using the story in order to gain social capital more than monetary ones and from what i've seen in the comment section, it's partially worked.
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@@somethingsomething404 sponsored? you do realize not every creator has the ability or readily available funds to get on a plane, but even without that, the questions asked and answered would have remained the same had they done it over video call. moreover, it's not like this was a big puff piece for mr. beast. he highlighted that he still has to answer for the squid games work, that he was still ridiculously negligent in his hiring process, and that he did commit an illegal lottery that - hate to tell you - is likely outside the statue of limitations (which from a quick search could be around 5 years from the act itself)
0 likesif this were some puff piece that said jimmy is innocent of all crimes, then you'd have a better argument to make, but this wasn't about that. this was about dawson not being open to questions soggy wanted to ask regarding his allegations, then threatening to somehow expose the creator himself if he persisted without any substantial evidence, and upending quite a few relationships and the peace of people he added to his videos without permission.
as he stated, believing completely in either side is foolish and myopic, but to foolishly write this off as some "mr beast sponsored video" is choosing to put on a blindfold and say to hell with any other perspective.
@@somethingsomething404and?
0 likesMr beast flew soggy to the USA. Soggy said he couldn’t afford it otherwise.
5 likesThis was a sponsored video, sponsored by Mr. Beast….
@@Bolt-Action_Rifle not sure what you mean?
0 likes*mrbreast
0 likesMRBEASTS SAVED
2 likesIt's not like Mr.Beast's completely in the right, but DogPack404 isn't in the right either.
3 likesDogpack404 is basically the MamaMax of MrBeast at this point. If he admits to fabricating evidence and getting advice from ChatGPT, I would not be the tiniest bit surprised.
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@shadowed69 The evidence Soggy provides is not cherry-picked that are all the points Dogpack made himself but you know who's points are Cherrypicky Dogpack's. Jimmy's mom was the manager for Jimmy at the time when he was a small YouTuber, Delaware was named Delaware because of his work-uniform having the name Delaware on it. He only wore a mask for one video for the other, you can see his face. Also, why should Jimmy's mom hire a registered Sex offender on purpose? When it makes more sense that she didn't know. Why does Dogpack not mention all this info? Because then it would look like Jimmy didn't know about it. Jake the Viking is not a creditable source because he lied multiple times about the topic too and is a known clout chaser in general, not only to Mr. Beast.
0 likesAgain, you can hate on Jimmy for crypto scamming not doing a background check on delaware and for the Chris Tyson situation that's fair, but there is no evidence that he knowingly hired Delaware the only testaments are from people that have a track record for bending the truth.
This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
4 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
No AI models like this are advanced predictive text generators @@jadendafinger
0 likesMr beast still hired Kris, despite knowing hes a pedo. He is still not a good person.
0 likesImagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.
0 likesI don't know why my full comment got shadow-banned. But slitting it wasn't.
0 likes@eII_gato but what I am saying is Dogpack's intentions were to destroy the Mr. Beast brand under any means necessary and he shouldn't have a JOURNALIST YouTube channel after this anymore because he killed all credibility. (2/2)
4 likes@@eII_gatoBecause he is a disgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false ones. Not saying Mr. Beast is a Saint, (1/2)
2 likes@eII_gato Because he is a disgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false ones. Not saying Mr. Beast is a Saint, but what I am saying is Dogpack's intentions were to destroy the Mr. Beast brand under any means necessary and he shouldn't have a JOURNALIST YouTube channel after this anymore because he killed all credibility.
0 likes@@eII_gato Because he is a dissgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any real evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false one. Not saying Mr-Beast is a saint, but what I am saying is that Dogpack intentions were to destroy the Mr-beast brand under any mines necessary and he shouldn't a have a journalist YouTube channel anymore because he completely killed all credibility.
0 likesChat GPT understands the legal system.
4 likes@@eII_gatoBecause he is a disgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any real evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false one. Not saying Mr Beast is a saint, but what I am saying is that Dogpack intentions were to destroy the Mr.beast brand under any mines necessary and he shouldn't a have a journalist YouTube channel anymore because he completely killed all credibility.
0 likesDid you even watch the damn video?@@mauveskydiver3225
0 likesdogpack shouldve stuck to real evidence, no clue why he'd sacrifice his integrity like that ngl
2 likes@@linstar9172
0 likesJesus loves you. Repent and turn away from your sins today 🤗
@@mauveskydiver3225watch the video 😂
1 likeBoth of them made false cp allegations
7 likesI wouldn't be surprised if the NDA is written by ChatGPT
3 likesNone of it is faked.
0 likesDon't insult my boi ChatGPT like that
17 likesAnd they both accused people of being pedos with no evidence.
53 likesthis video puts the "slop" video you made in context. I can imagine how frustrating it must have been to see every single commentary youtuber get facts wrong while youre finding things that are just misinformation.
915 likesdue dilligence really is important regardless of what platform you use to inform people.
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This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
0 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
this is still a slop channel. a soggy sloppy channel
1 likeYea idk, the slop video was still kinda pretentious, there’s clearly a market for it, live and let live, who’s Soggy to say what’s ‘good’ content is.
0 likesyou know a situation is weird when a fucking scp sl youtuber comments
0 likesYour*
0 likesWait is that the dboi himself? LARS? I like their vids man
0 likes@ See what you want to see mate, some people will ignore everything and hang onto fringe arguments.
0 likes@@user-kf4gt7bo2k i dont agree with all the claims he made in the video, but the point is that dogpacks arguments mostly fall flat. like we all know mrbeast has done horrible shit.
10 likessoggy accusing dogpack of reverse searching what he thought was CP after he (kind of) dismissed that kris thought the same thing when sharing the image is some of that stuff
no need to lose your faith in humanity im just glad theres another perspective
dude he is mostly arguing semantics here. Claim "Mrbeast hired a RSO and hid is identity" Soggy "Mrbeast actually didnt INTENTIONALLY hire an RSO and you can see 1 video from 25 years ago where he wasnt wearing a mask so there is more proof he wasnt hiding his identity bc why would he have him without a mask in one video."
7 likesClaim "Mrbeast tortured jake for a video" Soggy: Jake said one of the employees said it was a war crime but in fact he was joking when he said that and Jake said he WASNT joking but then later he slipped up and said he was joking when he used the words war crime. HA HA Gotcha!. "
It is purposely and completely missing the point of the claims.
The fact that people are falling for these semantic arguments is baffling. I lost all hope in humanity.
@@ziodyne7774
2 likesno i never have any coherent thoughts ever,
thats why you're here.
thank you so much
Maybe then he should’ve made this video in the firsts place, instead of the “slop” one? Never thought of that, huh?
1 likeI understand that it was more of a rant video, but I kind of agreed with everything that he said. What made it more frustrating was when some of the slop channels fought back by saying that they are just youtubers, that they don't have to be held to high standards of research. Sickens me.
21 likesWait, does my math isn't mathing, or is this debunking of feastables not being bad is not that great too?
27 likesHershey's has 1 serving for 43 grams and 220 calories, while feastables has 2 servings for 30 grams and 160 calories each.
If I turn 1 serving of feastables from 30 to 43 grams, it would make it to have 229 calories and 18 grams of sugar.
With single bar feastables it rises to 233 calories, and, funnily enough, 22 grams of sugar. Which means that they seem to have different formulas for different sizes)
It isn't that bad as it was claimed to, and there is still less sugar too. It just doesn't look good when you are talking about numbers, without doing math.
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This guy was flown to the US by Jimmy. That says it all.
0 likesAlso most Americans don’t even understand fractions, they’re not doing math.
One of them had 35g servings. Go back and recheck.
0 likesI was a bit skeptical about that point
4 likesI honestly can't understand how anyone could defend the whole CP situation with DogPack and Rosanna, it genuinely makes me irrationally mad, like do these people even understand why owning and sharing that material is morally wrong and illegal in the first place?
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@@diegoaugusto1561 how to sound like a PDF File 101
8 likesyet the FBI is allowed to do it? you guys can take a chill pill and understand you have to have this stuff in your machine to research/reverse search it.
1 likeAnd then, get this, delete it after you're done ????
"Owning" cp entails intentionally having it stored for the sake of having it.
I need context
0 likesThe creator Coffeezilla did a brief preliminary piece on Mr. Beast’s potential shady financials in the crypto space. Like SC, he does nuance and explains complicated schemes very well and is extremely careful with his words. As a result of him reaching a wider audience with popular topics like Mr. Beast and Andrew Tate though, he had to post a “please don’t be a vigilante or do anything to anyone I talk about; that’s the government’s job” because people were actually going after some of the people he covered. That’s who we’ve become.
28 likesThis is so frustrating because you don't HAVE to make up reasons not to like Jimmy and his team. Like. At all.
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Youre a billionaire bootlicker who wants to defend a guy who literally hired a pedo(kris tyson) and knew about it
0 likes@@The_Unknown365-x3xbros ducking the argument 😂
0 likes@@FactsBurst.1It’s still his signature, most celebrities do the same thing it’s not that serious, the world will keep spinning. No one gives a fuck
1 like@FactsBurst.1 That's called a notary. It's perfectly legal my guy. He would likely have at least 2-3 people who are official notaries for him. Meaning they have the legal authority to do that. Like. Can y'all chill about stuff you don't know anything about?? Again. There are valid reasons to criticize him and his team without talking with your butt cheeks.
1 like@eugenekrabs141 People were signing mrbeasts name who arent mr beast 💀💀💀
0 likesOkay, but the "war crime" defense for the Jake Weddle thing was ridiculous on Soggy's part. I'm autistic, it's harder for me to pick up sarcasm and hyperbole than most, and even I knew that what happened to Jake wasn't necessarily an actual war crime when he said it. That doesn't mean what MrBeast did to him was okay, though. The "he agreed to do it" defense wears a little thin here. If we can agree that that defense doesn't hold for something like Squid Game, where the game literally involves participants dying, (But they agreed, it's all fine) then we shouldn't extend that defense for something like compelling a man to run a marathon without training, something that CAN kill you
6 likes@@joshuahsimons9587literally made up, they never said it was going to Jimmy Donaldson signing the shirts?? MrBeast is not a person, it’s a company
0 likes@SuleX00-ov5ip deceiving people to sell more merch is wrong, u would be happy if u got a shirt signed MB but someone else signed it OK
0 likes@@joshuahsimons9587 its not faking its forging. They also had complete permission, was transparent about it and its perfectly legal.
0 likes@@The_Unknown365-x3x Like you deadass just watched nearly an hour and a half exposé but balk at a paragraph literally agreeing with the video. 💀
8 likes@@The_Unknown365-x3x Yes you did 😐
0 likes@@joshuahsimons9587 Dude no. Notaries are a legitimate thing. And that's what it looks like was actually happening. It would 100% make sense for Jimmy to have at least a handful of legally notarized employees to help out with paperwork like that. And a notary can either stamp their own signature OR a higher ups as long as they are signing something in good faith and with consent. Meaning they either legitimately thought this was okay OR Jimmy himself has behaved similarly enough in the past for them to believe they were stamping something in good faith. There are absolutely some fishy things going on there but not the way old boy tried to make it out to be. I'm pretty sure he has like 250ish full time employees working on videos AND business related projects. He has to have notaries or he'd be personally signing paperwork all freaking day. And a notary can stamp something with equal power once they pass the course.
0 likesSo maybe some people were stamping stuff they shouldn't but like... notaries aren't forging or faking anything. It's a perfectly legal and normal business practice that he's trying to sound shadier than they actually are. Which isn't to say they couldn't still be doing something shady but what he presented isn't inherently wrong or illegal. There would have to be way more investigation done than has been so far.
However, I have noticed that Jimmy and his team are lawyering up when it comes to some of these more business and scam related details. And not being forthcoming with details like that is a bit sus in my opinion.
No one is saying that the brand is perfect but like I said....you don't have to lie or inflate details to prove that. I suggest you check out Coffeezillas coverage as he doesn't have a personal bias against the entire brand.
@@joshuahsimons9587 This is actually one Coffee Zilla is covering too but like ...be so frfr rn most of what that guy said was just nonsense he made up OR made sound a lot worse or more illegal than it actually was. I objectively still hold him accountable for the brand and his employees to a certain extent but due to his refusal to let ANYONE talk about those situations is pretty telling after he let these employees discuss other aspects of his lies. But most lies ARE bolstered with a small amount of truth. That's just how lies work. For instance Jimmy hiring a straight up predo may have occurred but there isn't actually any evidence that he WAS fully aware of it. He definitely should have been considering that comes back in a freaking background check and he should be running those for ANYONE on his team. So when he mentions those "forged" signatures he needs a lot more evidence that Jimmy himself said that they COULD NOT notarize paperwork for him. Something most companies do allow but gives him legal wiggle room when it comes to a lot of stuff in the back end. I'm not saying he was only chatting sh- but he's literally not a credible source and made up a LOT just to bolster false credibility and slander a company that is already in hot water for things they have evidence of doing. Idk like selling poor kids poison for profit.
0 likes@@opheliamunroe1110 didn’t order a yapachino
2 likes@@The_Unknown365-x3x I actually don't hate them at all. 🤷🏾♀️ There are just legitimate reasons to criticize them without literally lying through your teeth about it. And some of his lies had a modicum of truth and because I was under the impression that he was a past employee in good standing with legitimate evidence I did give him the benefit of the doubt. I have my own personal reasons for not liking content or people like that without lying through my teeth and that's not like...hatred. And it's pretty weird to see my comment and just be like "Oh this fully grown adult just secretly hates some random dude on the Internet for no reason." Grow up my guy. You should be critical of the world around you in general. There are tons of valid reasons to side eye most content online. It's literally why I follow this channel. I couldn't have done this research or gotten these interviews myself at all. And other reputable creators ARE discussing things he has PROVABLY DONE and can't get more than a heavily lawyered up statement from his team over. Trying to convince kids that fewer calories means something is healthier? Like no. Go sit at the back of the class little one. You are clearly not paying attention.
3 likes@@joshuahsimons9587 Youtube has a built-in feature that automatically cycles through a list of creator-supplied thumbnails and gauges which one is the most effective. Every large youtuber does it
0 likes@@opheliamunroe1110 I think u just hated them from the start bro
7 likesJimmy i still a scammer and a fraud, so who cares
0 likes@@joshuahsimons9587everyone does that cause different thumbnails can have better performance in the algorithm
0 likes@@eugenekrabs141 Youtube literally has a thumbnail tester feature, which will test 3 thumbnails you have made to see which one gets more clicks and then will keep the one that gets the most.
0 likes@@joshuahsimons9587 Yeah Ludwig also changes his thumbnails all the time. He says youtubers do it to see what thumbnails gather more views so they can use the things in those thumbnails more
47 likes@@joshuahsimons9587 Because why not? It clearly said on the website that its not all going to be signed by Jimmy himself
32 likes@@eugenekrabs141 he changes his thumbnail like every day that's really weird
2 likes@eugenekrabs141 why would Tyler sign 2 signatures MAKES NO SENSE
3 likes@eugenekrabs141 so pretending
5 likes@@joshuahsimons9587 Because they weren't fake. The signatures were just not Mr. Beasts and they weren't pretending to be either.
34 likes@@joshuahsimons9587 watch the vid dumb ahh
0 likesHow is faking MB signatures a “made up reason”
38 likesI don't understand the war crime argument, maybe they meant a joke as in they weren't in war. Did they or did they not refuse to turn of the lights? That is the issue because it's torture, even if he was free to leave mr beast was holding money in front of him to patriciate in torture like a real life squid games. Basically "sure you're free to leave bro but you're losing money"
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@@Kaviranghari truth
1 likeyeah so fing leave? you dont loose the money you never earned
1 likeNo one here has any brain. Jake mentions again and again in his video that people on the set really said to him that Mr Beast and the team has big expectations from him. So he had to perform. He was willing to eat shit because they were paying him so much. He can't just quit selfishly in 1-2 days just because he doesn't like it. He was feeling the pressure because an entire crew was present to shoot his footage and he didn't want to let anyone down. He was getting paid handsomely, he wanted to deliver. Too bad most of you here have no work ethic.
0 likesAlso, even Mr Beast didn't expect the challenge to turn out this bad. That's why he offered the rest of the money to Jake after he went public.
The man suffered a lot, whether you want to believe it or not.
Also another nuance: he was fired from Mr Beast production yet still went back for this video. He obviously wanted to be on good terms with a potential future employer. If he would've quit in a few days, how would it have looked in from of the crew and Mr Beast? That he was a lazy SOB.
That's the problem with you folks, on one hand you're ready to call someone lazy and on the other hand if they persist you call them an idiot for having somewhat of a work ethic. Also, Jake was terrible with finances so it isn't a surprise that he really needed this money.
This comment is what a nuanced take looks like. Grow up kids!
He didn't ask the lights to turn off... Buddy if U live in America and u don't even free will or power in your word... That's a you prb
0 likes@@tobiasbayer4866
0 likesI’m not arguing semantics. My point focuses on the clear distinction between voluntary participation and coercion. This isn’t about nitpicking definitions; it’s about addressing the main issue: the participant willingly chose to engage, taking responsibility for their decision. The difference between discomfort and coercion is substantive, not just a matter of wordplay.
It’s not torture if the participant willingly chose to take part, knowing the conditions. Discomfort doesn’t equal coercion, and calling it “messed up” is a subjective judgment that ignores the participant’s agency and responsibility. Dangling money in front of someone’s face doesn’t negate their freedom to walk away. The offer of money doesn’t force their hand—it simply presents an opportunity, not a demand. They were free to decline and face no consequences, which makes their participation a choice, not coercion or exploitation
They were free to decline and face no consequences. Maybe you would argue that Jake’s being financially desperate , pushed him to accept, but that doesn’t mean he was coerced. Desperation might influence his choice0, but Jake is the one who still made the choice. It would be coercion if threats we're involved. No someone offering you money for conditions in a challenge is not a threat. Financial hardship alone doesn’t turn an opportunity into exploitation.
@@Testoider I have no "goal posts to move", cause I don't care. I just found the point made in the video dumb, like it's an "oh see, it wasn't bad at all" thing. It's bad, just cause it isn't illegal doesn't make it not bad.
3 likesPeople can go and not buy lootboxes any time, doesn't make preying on vulnerable people ok.
@MaakaSakuranbo pleae read my other posts which account for personal agency. It does not matter how desperate weddle was, he made the judgment call he would do the challenge.
0 likes"Blah blah blah" isn't an argument. Him being able to leave at any time is extremely relevant in the distinction of whether the challenge is legal or not. The point I am originally responding to is related to whether or not it is torture. It is not tortue. You are moving the goal post by trying to claim "well it may not be legal but it sure isnt heckin nice." I am responding to you to simply to reiterate my point humor you.
@@Testoider It's still abusive, whether or not it's illegal. Yeah blabla, he could've left any time, blabla. Giving people money to put themselves through bad stuff targets people who really need or can't resist that money.
4 likesSame reason why lootboxes suck even though not illegal in most places. Preying on vulnerable people.
@@MaakaSakuranbo It does matter if it is torture because that's what would make it illegal and a war crime. Whther it is a shitty challenge or not is the thing that is actually not important. This is same of how someone cannot like a certain sport, like mma for example. People might not like the violent spectacle and could call it "a shitty sport" but the same way ufc fighters decide to participate in a "shitty sport" jake Weddle decided to take part of a "shitty challenge" .
1 like@@Testoider It doesn't matter if it was torture or not, it's still a shitty challenge.
1 likeDo you expect it to be EASY to win money or smth?
1 like@QiZFziG4 Weddle was not a prisoner, nor was he forced to do the challenge. Whether someone offers you cash regardless of however little or however much to do xyz, it is up to you to decide if it is worth taking the money in exchange for that challenge. If Weddle was literally being detained or an actual prisoner, then it would have been torture but since he decided to take the challenge and also especially because he was free to go at anytime, it was not tortue. Again, it is not Mr. Beasts responsibility to make Weddle financially stable. So "waving cash" in front of him does no mean Weddle was forced to do something regardless of Weddle's financial standing, as Weddle decided he would do that challenge.
2 likes@@Testoider Look up "white torture". It's very much a thing. Just because Jimmy gave Jake Weddle the bare minimum for him to survive that doesn't mean that he also wasn't affected mentally. MrBeast convincing Weddle to do it by waving cash in front of him while Weddle needed it was just wrong.
8 likes@@anna-flora999Jake waddle is just as vile
1 like@anna-flora999 MrBeast’s actions aren’t exploitation because participants have a clear choice—they’re presented with an opportunity, not a threat. Even if someone is financially desperate, they still have the agency to accept or decline without coercion. Responsibility lies with the individual who makes the decision, not with MrBeast, for offering the opportunity. Exploitation involves threats, manipulation, or removing choice, while an opportunity allows for voluntary participation without fear of harm.
0 likesExample of a Threat: If MrBeast said, “Participate in this challenge, or I’ll ruin your reputation and ensure you never get work again,” that would be coercion and exploitation.
Example of an Opportunity: Offering a challenge where participants can choose to compete for a cash prize, knowing they can walk away at any time without consequences, is an opportunity. The choice remains fully in their hands.
To say that Mr. Beast needs to take responsibility for his actions here is dishonest because the onus is the person who is being provided the chance or opportunity to participate in the challenge, not on Mr. Beast.
An easier way to understand this is that Jake is desperate financially because of his own actions. Mr Beast is in noway responsible for Jake financial stability.
@@Testoider I agree. The same way mrbeast has to take responsibility for exploiting a desperate person. It definitely says something about his priorities
10 likesHe was getting 10k a day each day he was in there. He could leave at any point and get all of that accumulated money. Just 5 days is 50k. Yes, he would still get paid insane money if he quit just a few days in. Nobody was "holding money in front of him." He could leave at any point and still get paid.
6 likesIt's about pride and taking responsibility for your actions. Whether or not you accept money in exchange for something you don’t want to do, regardless of your financial need, the choice reflects your priorities. In that moment, you decided that your pride was less important than the money.
5 likesThis means it is not torture, as you are making a conscious decision rather than being subjected to unbearable suffering.
It is also not extortion. Extortion involves coercion, threats, or manipulation to force someone into doing something against their will. In contrast, someone offering money for a task is simply presenting an option—you have the freedom to decline, which makes it fundamentally different from extortion.
It’s basically exploiting people’s desperation for money for the sake of content. It’s not good
41 likes@B0b-k3r its not torture. He chose to do i, thx
2 likes@@Testoider Yes it's not a war crime which I stated that could have been the joke but sleep deprivation is literally torture the way he described it was like tv stage lights that stuff is really bright there's no way he could sleep in that he even talked about having insomnia after that happened which is a side effect of sleep deprivation. Even mr beast thought it was messed up or rather bad pr because he reached out to the dude and gave him the full money. Apparently this dude was doing it to pay back his student loans which is so messed up in my opinion. Some people are desperate and will do anything for money
27 likesThat isn't torture lol.
14 likesHe was able to leave at anytime. If you aren't detainee or prison its not a war crime. He could leave whenever he wanted and no one would have stopped. Yes, there was money but its up to you to decide what to put up with for that money, not the other person
Should've named this video "I Didn't Work For DogPack404, He's A Fraud"
3 likeshypothetically if I wasn’t allowed to leave Soggy’s basement and he wakes me up every 37.5 minutes to feed on my fibres and nutrients, is that a war crime, therefore breaking the Geneva convention??
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@@Waffleguy4456me three
0 likesDont even start, we know the war crimes they commited. They basically started the modern form of it. @@DinoRicky
0 likesNah, that's called tough love
1 likegrass boy
0 likes@@Oboltus55me too
1 like@@M.Ritesh
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
I like grilled cheese 😋
5 likesIt’s not a war crime….
7 likesIt’s Canada during WW1
No, only if you've declared war on each other.
16 likesNah, because it’s the Geneva suggestion.
30 likesIt isn't during war times in Belgium
21 likesNo, because soggy is a special exception
66 likesThis drama makes everybody look terrible. Those who believed Dogpack are gonna get slandered for being stupid and gullible, those who didn't are gonna be, and have already been, slandered for being a 'Mr Beast dickrider'. Leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. Watching slop is fun but it's nice finally seeing an unbiased opinion.
127 likesAlso unrelated but I don't think Rosanna is in the wrong in this situation, just very gullible and doesn't look into things too deeply. Esp when I saw the Higehiro slander, that set off a few alarm bells
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I think the video she made with dogpack about the “work chat” could have been done a lot better considering her younger viewer base
1 likeWhy did i initially read the end as "Hiroshima slander"😭
0 likesThey were stupid and gullible though. I was saying the whole time. Where does he back up his claims? He never showed any hard evidence
0 likes@@SS-xr7jf you know what? agreed! i like to believe most have good intention, bad execution, but when it's something as serious as that --- so much so that you're @'ing the fbi rather than filling out an actual report, it does cross from plausible deniability to being maliciously negligent. it becomes even more egregious when, rather than focusing on the use of it in the thumbnail, you focus on the color changes of your background for a/b testing. so yeah, i get where you're coming from and have to agree.
1 like@@macnkeebs there’s a point where your bias is no longer manifesting as gullibility, though. And she either thought it was ok to have barely edited csam in a thumbnail, or knew it was fake and accused them of it anyways. If you get to that point, any plausible deniability she might have had went straight out the window. Because neither stupidity, nor gullibility can explain that sort of gross negligence. So she is, in fact, also in the wrong.
0 likes@@SS-xr7jf being gullible can come from bias, which i think most can agree that there was a clear bias she holds. as far as spiteful and mean, much like this video states, two things can be true at the same time. one can be so blinded by their own bias, that they lean into it so much, they skip due diligence, become negligent themselves, and use their anger at being maligned in harmful, spiteful ways.
0 likesi for one, have no dog in this fight other than wishing the actual victims were able to have been heard and seen without the additional circus show that was brought with it.
Nah. Rosanna is clearly a spiteful mean girl who did not care if the allegations were false as long as she got to cause Mr. Beast reputational harm. That’s not being gullible and stupid. There’s plenty of blame to share with her too.
3 likes@@carln5690 i agree. even the framing of it felt different than her coverage on the squid games' allegations, where it wasn't highly produced or edited or filled with a brightness about it. it was simply her going over what was sent to her. whereas her time with dogpack felt very much like a gab session between two friends for tea --- where the topic of the day was suspected crimes that felt fbi-worthy. optics sadly do matter in things like these. as much as we wish we were evolved enough as a species to think they don't, they still do and that video was not a good look from start to finish.
0 likesThis guy seems to feel how I feel. Respect to you.
0 likesI watched some parts of dogpack's videos, but I didn't care because I'm not into Mrbeast. This is why I don't trust everything without hearing from multiple sides and forming my own opinion.
0 likes@@Joshuamiller19570 I think a lot of it stems from the ideology that 'all rich people are a-holes', which is kinda fair in and of itself. Nobody actually needs more than 20m, and even that's a stretch.
3 likesBut MrBeast didn't really do himself any favors either by staying silent, because silence basically means an admission of guilt. And also with the moldy lunchly going on, with his co-founders just making fun of a very serious problem, nobody was going to be on his side anyway
@@macnkeebs Yeah, it's definitely very biased from her, there was so much wrong with what dogpack showed and said in the video. Honestly, to me it kinda felt like rosanna weddle and dogpack were a group of teen girls shit talking behind someone's back if you know what I mean xD. Like there was some substance behind it, but it was built on poor ground
7 likesi think that rosanna might have had tinted glasses on due to her dislike of mr. beast/jimmy that stemmed from the editing of that creator hide n' seek video and the backlash gained from it. it's understandable since she felt maligned and i think, had she remained more focused on the squid games' allegations that were being sent to her from contestants, it would have been the better avenue to explore.
12 likesi think the second she began to veer into the dogpack stuff though without her or her team doing their own due diligence, then using suspected cp as a thumbnail in her video while claiming to alert the fbi without doing any kind of research prior --- was where her glasses became a full blindfold. i don't believe she was gullible as much as she was biased, which happens. it's just sad that what legitimate grievances she held, will likely fall under higher scrutiny more than before.
I never believed Dogpack for a second, Honestly was sick how easily the Internet turned on Mr Beast, But what can ya do? It's the Internet, A soulless land filled with degenerates a-holes >.>
8 likesI had no stakes in this when the dogpack video dropped, could feel something was off and either way the videos after talking about mundane unserious and unimportant allegations gave away that Dogpack was disingenuous at best and malicious at worse.
1 likeI’m surprised anyone took his words at face value.
Hiring someone without doing backgrounds checks is a mistake, keeping him on staff and letting him wear as mask after finding out is the sinsister deliberate part.
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@@BrettCooper-b6ujake isn't trustworthy cause he hates trans people. Happy?
0 likes@@hammer3721dog pack was knowingly malicious big difference
0 likes@@johnnylittle9299 I know a Geek Squad manager that explained that they run an involuntary background check every 6 month. But he also said that when he was a Best Buy manager, he never did a background check. Maybe it's an implied thing for some companies? I know when I was hired at FedEx, they ran a background check in every state.
0 likes@@hammer3721 bro are you on the spectrum? Cause you seem to lack any balls or a critical thinking brain if you're actually using 'Womp Womp'
0 likes@@hammer3721uh oh, someone is seeing evidence contradicting something they’ve whole sale swallowed and are now coping hard
0 likes@madadaff2880 Poor Stucky nihilist. ;'(
0 likesThat is wrong info from Dogpack. Delaware only wears a mask in one video and in the other videos you can see his face. Delaware was called Delaware because of his work-uniform having the name Delaware. Also, Jimmy was way smaller at the time and didn´t do background checks. Is it negligent yes, did jimmy know about Delaware before hiring him, no.
4 likes@@hammer3721 holy shit you must be a cam nuggets enjoyer lmao my bad
0 likes@@BrettCooper-b6u jake the viking was going around saying jimmy knew while downplaying what delaware did, he is untrustworthy
1 like@@cheesemanthe2nd no I’m saying that Best Buy probably should’ve done a better background check too especially Mrbeast was just a rising YouTuber at the time and Best Buy is a huge brand
1 like@@hammer3721 Right and he just dismisses Jake the Viking's tweet as "he's untrustworthy" without any justification
1 like@johnnylittle9299 are you trying to imply the registry is fake?
0 likes@@johnnylittle9299 You trust corps with anything? You wanna give me your social and where you live?
0 likesOk then why did Best Buy hire him
6 likes@@gewnurb Don't tell me you didn't know what SA and PDs were when you were 19? It's still his fault for not doing a background check. I guaranty that you blame bestbuy for not checking.
7 likes@@hammer3721Jimmy was being negligent while Dogpack was straight up manipulative. That's the difference.
1 like@sqq3985 they didnt
0 likes@@hammer3721Jimmy was negligent in hiring Delaware because he was just starting his company and only kept him on for like a year.
8 likesDog Pack INTENTIONALLY left out context of evidence to try and vilify Jimmy any chance he got. Ur actually so dumb.
@@hammer3721 I don't think anyone its feeling sad because the RSO got exposed and fired tho
0 likesThere is 0 evidence that Mr Beast found out they were a RSO and kept them around. Stop believing known liars at their word and nothing else.
0 likesMr.Beasts videos itself?💀💀
0 likes@@madadaff2880 still salty for being fired 😂
6 likes@@madadaff2880 Womp womp
1 like@@hammer3721 lol dogpack wasn't being negligent, that's straight up manipulation lmao
26 likes@DajuSar Boo hoo, poor PDF getting exposed.
5 likes@@hammer3721 One is trying to slander another person for revenge. While Jimmy unkowingly hired someone without making background checks and then fired them
21 likesthey literally knew about Delaware's past...
4 likes@@gewnurbPoor, innocent, 19 year old Jimmy.
73 likesI like how Beasty boy is allowed to be negligent, but people want to crucify DogPack for being negligent.
Hypocritical much?
@gewnurb he was told and kept him on staff
44 likes@gewnurb I'm going to steal your shoes and crease them
0 likesdon't expect a 19 year old starting a business to expect bestbuy didn't do background checks and do them himself, also note that delaware most definitely just asked for a mask and maybe gave an excuse like "I don't want to be in the camera" or something like that and jimmy just said "yeah sure", some people are like that and making the assumptions that someone is a pedo because they want to wear a mask is idiotic
40 likesMy god thank you man. It was getting pretty irritating seeing video after video of content creators being so impressed with Dogpack's "evidence". This video is quite the satisfying b!tch slap to DogPack and all the content creators that amplified such unauthenticated claims to millions of their viewers with zero regard for responsibility.
2 likesI think it's time for this to go off the internet and be handled by law enforcement and an actual court. All this reporting for YouTube is just muddying the waters of the case and could jeopardize it.
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@@norhe. Plenty of the things mentioned are illegal. The Ava situation is its own illegal can of worms. Also defamation. Mr. Beast can easily sue Dogpack and a bunch of other things.
0 likesWhat case is there to have? It's not really illegal stuff, just drama
1 likeIn 1 month, Dogpack has gone from vigilante, to questionable, to downright untrustworthy.
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@@Ceratisa Mr Beast being a scammer and fraud. He is shady af aside of dog packs lies. Even Coffeezilla confirmed it, the most respected journalist in the internet.
0 likes@@SolaireOfToastwhat facts? Lol
0 likesImagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.
0 likesdude the thing is he just open the pandora box, you cant deny aloot of allegations and missbeheviour about the videos, both jimmy and dogpack are pice of shit, specially jimmy he know exactly what he is doing, he is smart and i dont think he dont know exactly what he is doing, the assosation with 2 pice of shit for luncly, criptoscams, market manipulation, even luncly lie in the nutrition labbel for the amount of some sustance it have, even the investagations says nothing about aloot of allegation mrbeast as company have, like the other dude who work for mrbeast comapany say one ceo was giving aderal edit videos until late night, more and more people come to confirm some allegation
0 likes@@crabby580same☠️
0 likes@@leontriestoart honestly, he was trustworthy at first only because many were too lazy to do research and at the time there was a lack of counter arguments
1 likeI never trusted him. If he had "gud intenshions", he would have made this video wayyyy before getting fired. All the AI shit does not help. Smug ass attitude at moments doesn't help either.
5 likes@@leontriestoartI am guilty of this.
2 likes@@erikshields3724 He wasnt, because even in his first video he got things right and wrong. People ignored his questionable stuff and agreed on his facts.
24 likesNot really dogpack has been considered a clown since like August
6 likes@@leontriestoart Well he is untrustworthy but still not a piece of * like Mr Fraud
0 likes@leontriestoart i agree, there was something just off about him releasing all of this information right at the peak of the Ava Kris Tyson drama
17 likesDogpack has always been untrustworthy, people just were way too quick to believe him blindly cuz he rode the wave of uncertainty around Mr beast after the Kris Tyson stuff
107 likesExactly
9 likesWaiting for the truth about Soggy Cereal video now. Gotta keep this recursion going.
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0 likesAlready come out—his flight was probably paid for by Mr. Beast, the YouTube account commented on this video right away and then deleted, and Mr. Beast has been asking drama channels to promote this video. Video is propaganda and unusable. If someone wanted to use any of the claims made here ethically they’d have to start from scratch and verify it themselves.
2 likesI love how quickly everyone turned on Jimmy, turned on Dogpack, then turned back to Jimmy, then turned on both.
4 likesThis is one of the most important videos on YouTube. You're insane Soggy!
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Nah, he's just yet another one DogPack hater
0 likesTha emo c-moon appeared here, No way!
1 like@@lizzieisbaked he did, I think Lerix spoke about how bad it was too.
3 likesDidn’t you make that commentary slop video that sucked? I’m sure that’s you lol
5 likesCan’t wait to see the million dollar lawyer legal maneuvers coming up in the beast game trials!
5 likesAre you on drugs ?
0 likesI respect the journalism here, I love both your channel and soggy cereals channel. This is beautifully put together.
12 likesDog pack is either going to ignore this video or he is just going to say nuh uh to everything. Edit:Guys please stop blowing up my notifications just like or dislike it please
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Just turn off your notifications
0 likes@ no, because I stand by what I said and I’m not gonna delete it just because it occasionally inconveniences me
0 likesMaybe delete comment then?
0 likesDelete it if you care so much
0 likes@@IBZogTheGreat @droketheroper in one of the comments already typed that
0 likesNo thanks
0 likesno he hasnt @@aleksandrmaksimov2818
0 likes@ dog pack did?
0 likesHe already disabled his comments on his YT channel
0 likesImagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.
0 likesI am commenting this just because you said not to comment
2 likesWhy not just turn off reply notifications?
2 likesNo dog pack is just gonna say that this YouTuber graped a kid or something. Or more realistically,”he attacked and killed the queen of England. How do I know… JUST TRUST BRO.”
2 likesh
0 likesI will continue blowing your notifications, you corportate shill.
0 likes@@TheRealestHoomanmr beast is still guilty 😂😂😂
1 likeI am commenting to blow up your notifications 😊
1 like@aleksandrmaksimov2818 really let me guess barely doing a video on it providing no evidence because guess what that's the exact same things did the trying justify accusing it innocent man of sexual abuse
1 likeHe’ll do that, he’s that, he’s gonna bla bla bla… How about you all just stop making assumptions, which is caused all of this shit in the first place, or are you all that dumb and blindly believe all that dog, cereal and other people says online for clout 🤡
1 like@@aleksandrmaksimov2818 i doubt he make it out fine tbh.
0 likesDogPack has addressed all accusations gracefully. So he will come out clean out of this slander. At the end of the day, ratio doesn't lie
2 likesI believe that dogpack will actually answer to this. Pulling a MrBeast would be just dumb and make them look even worse.
5 likesHe did respond by saying "Mr beast threw soggy cereal under the bus"
1 likeHe’s gonna call cereal a paid actor
1 likeHe’ll do the same as Beasr, ignore it
2 likesHed be a hypocrite using the mrbeast strat but dogpack has everything to lose and mrbeast…all the kids dont care
3 likes@@hellboy9458 I think the internet will clown him and few people is gonna help him defend against the so many supporters of MrBeast, MrBeast currently has the high ground.
0 likes@@PiyeFUNKOT What if he tries to defend his allegations and goes on Twitter/X to disprove Soggy, just like he did with Nicholas?
2 likesThe best move for dogpack is to ignore everything until MrBeast makes a small mistake and then go all out milking that mistake until everyone start siding with him again after a few months just like how MrBeast did it
9 likes10 new videos with dogpack on a white background with words relating to downfall in bold white and red
8 likes@@azurezzz The difference is that one guy is too big to fall, and the other is not big enough to fall.
18 likes@@TheRealestHooman So... is MrBeast THAT great in bed, huh? 🤔
0 likesPulling a MrBeast
37 likes@@lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198 since everyone was looking for any reason to hate mr east and then dogpack comes out with all these “accusations” a lot of people won’t listen to our cereal overlord
73 likesOr he could make up more lies but I hope he responds
41 likesHere's another clip out of context:
305 likesIn his now deleted video about MrBeast's CEO, DogPack shows a clip of MrBeast saying "I don't get along with women" and then CUTS the clip right away to make it look misogynistic. The original context was about dating and MrBeast said "I don't get along with women who don't have a hobby."
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Imagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.
0 likes@@imu1st you can search a clip on YT I think "MrBeast dating preferences" or "MrBeast CANCELLED For Dating Preferences"
0 likes@@FabioGeometryDash Oh, the MrBeast dating preferences. I think he still got backlash just because he shared his type of woman to everyone and then immediately got labeled as a misogynist, right?.
8 likesvideo n time stamp?
0 likes@@sophiemoconnell in the FLAGRANT podcast
14 likesWhere is the original clip of MrBeast?
0 likes@@cybanix6905
0 likesWhere are you going after you die?
What happens next? Have you ever thought about that?
Repent today and give your life to Jesus Christ to obtain eternal salvation. Tomorrow may be too late my brethen😢.
Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto man once to die, but after that the judgement
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2 likesBro if not getting alone with women is not acceptable then I'm a criminal for sure ☠️
0 likesThis is no doubt part of mr beasts PR campaign. While he may be right, he is probably being payed by mr beast for this video which would make 100% sense.
9 likesI would also worry about some comments. With a person who has so much money, mr beast, it would be a no brainer to not pay people to write positive comments that made him look good. Sure there are people who defend him. But the length some of the comments go, replying to everything and absolutely glazing feels off.
Take everyone with a grain of salt. Even me, but mainly people who have the most to lose and the most to gain.
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0 likes@@randomised7562satire?
1 likeyeah absolutely, soggy has a bias against dogpack and mr beast clearly paid him, and he doesn't really disprove anything that dogpack said. Also the positive comments are from gullible children who can't think for themselves
1 likecan't wait for the "The Truth About Soggy Cereal, Dogpack404, and MrBeast" video to come out 😤😤😤
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The never ending cycle of drama tubers
0 likesHopefully months later we don't get the "The Truth about MrBeast, Dogpack404 and Soggy Cereal"
15 likesIt's Nov 2024 and DogPack is still crying over being fired from Mr Beast in 2023 bc his ideas suck
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just cos someone doesnt hate mrbeast doesnt mean theyre getting paid dipshit
0 likesHow much did they pay u?😊
0 likesReally respect you man, but the one thing I have to disagree with, is that leaving lights on at all times while someone is in solitary confinement is actually a war crime. It can psychologically damage you and drive you insane by messing with your circadian rhythm.
9 likesEdit: I forgot to clarify this is exclusively targeting that one point, and isn't an attempt at invalidating other arguments
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@@poopypants9983 nah, I don't think torturing oneself is essential to understanding the damage it causes.
0 likesAll Soggy has to do, is try it himself...Add the rotting milk smell for extra effect.
1 likeWe as viewers cannot simply take your word as gospel, as you state in your opening you are doing this because you did not have a good interaction with Dogpack himself. due to this bias, we cannot take your words at face value, just as we cannot trust dogpack or the employees of Mr Beast.
41 likes"When someone is prepared to doctor evidence to make potentially incriminating lies more convincing, it automatically puts every single one of their accusations that isn't bulletproof into question." - You, Soggy Cereal.
I find it very funny that right after you show the leaked recording of a firing, you go on to later accuse Jake Weddle of being disingenuous in his showing of an AI voice recording. Everyone who has tried to defend Mr Beast or cover all topics has stated how Dogpack404, Dawson French. Only worked at Mr. Beast for 3 weeks. If he were such an unimportant and low level employee, then why was his Firing- something that is a very very sensitive legal issue, be recorded and then leaked. Not only that but you have not cited your source for this "evidence" and we don't know who it could have came from, and it could very well be AI seeing as you either haven't vetted it, or are protecting the person who recorded it from legal action dogpack could make against them.
The Delaware allegations being summed up as a dumb mistake aren't on Jimmy's fault as a 19 year old. Keeping him hired after the face, in which was confirmed by his brother was. (I am not speaking about the text to Jimmy's mom, I am talking about the tweet put out by Jake how Delaware had taken a plea deal for his sentence. If it wasn't ever true that Delaware was a sex offender then why would they run with the lie instead of denying it outright, it hurts the person they are trying to protect, Delaware, more than Jake or Jimmy.)
Bringing up how many wars are active in the world is a red herring, it draws the viewers eyes away from the actual account of the story and instead paints Jake and Dogpack as insensitive or even malicious in their description of events, by comparing it to the victims of war crimes. In this context the wars are the world are Irrelevant whether it fits your story or not.
In reality nobody who wasn't present for the entire solitary confinement challenge can dismiss James Weddle's claims that he was intentionally sleep deprived during his entire experience. We only have 1 eye witness account from the victim, if anyone were to step out and dismiss or reinforce the allegations they would be much different. A warcrime is still a warcrime even if not committed during war or by a country. Even if it was intended to be a joke, there is no proof it didn't happen at all. The comment of him not being a detainee can also be put under scrutiny because Jake was kept inside and attempted to be convinced not to leave, after he had decided 100% he was leaving and made that clear. That makes him a detainee against his will no matter how much time has passed.
Also using the clip of Jake saying he "Alleged" it to discredit him is very suspect, seeing as all of Dogpack404's videos would be considered "Alleged" so would Coffeezilla's new video, anything from Rossana Pansino, or any of the victims of the Beast Games amazon show. It is a legality to say or it makes the process of being sued for slander and defamation 100x easier for Mr. Beast LLC.
The Accusations of Jake Weddle spreading AI voice recordings of Jimmy are Null and Void and you are taking advantage of cut context. TWO MINUTES into the video, Jake Weddle SAYS ITS AI. BLATANTLY. And to VET YOUR SOURCES and not trust this video if it gets spread around. You cannot use "My AtTeNtIoN sPaN" as a reason to condemn him, It took quite literally 6 seconds for him to say it was AI. (I measured it by going to the video and seeing how long it took, I expected like near a minute? no. 6 seconds.)
Looking at the 50k from Jake's perspective, him and Dogpack are not on some Holy Crusade. If my life was on the line and I was at risk of being sued, I too would take 50k with no strings attached. It is the smart move. No matter if he is my enemy, if it can go to my lawyer's fees when he eventually tries to sue me Id take it.
Ironic that you talk about Doctoring evidence after clipping Jake Weddle out of context in the Ai video.
Currently you have both cherry picked clips and attempted to involved Dogpack, Jake Weddle, and Rosana Pansino, which is a gross usage of guilt by association. In reality all of his detractors are separate bubbles with overlapping parts, like a circle chart. So dismissing all of their arguments as if they were a group is foolish and Fallacious, especially when you have Bias to attack Dogpack404 for calling you overdramatic.
Illegal lottery #3 I believe is actually correct, there was no wrongdoing due to how Mr. Beast advertised, but it would be wrong to say that his other arguments aren't true or are in question due to this regardless of his credibility. That is definition Argument from Fallacy, and is a misuse of scrutiny to base an argument upon.
The reddit post getting deleted was information unknown to dogpack at the time and it was likely dogpack's contacting of the Mr Beast PR team that caused this. Due to Dogpack's infrequent and lengthy uploads there is possibility he talks about this in his next video. You simply processing and publishing this evidence faster than him is not a reason to attack him for it, although it does make this accusation instead a misunderstanding.
The CGI buses and Trains comment is a Strawman argument, Dogpack argued that the WHEELS on the bus were fake, not the bus and train itself. The car however is in a difficult spot, the recoloring argument is a red herring from the digital lift which you provide no actual evidence of being false or true. You simply direct the viewers attention AWAY from the original issue. We will not know if the car was digitally lifted or not unless someone recreates the stunt again and films it all the way through.
The first rocket car has documentation by a channel called Donut of its build, but the SECOND rocket car, the one that was changed to blue, has 0 documentation or at least documentation that is now unavailable. Warped TV also didn't BUILD THE ROCKET CAR, that was done by Donut. Warped designed the ramp and the football field jump, which both videos are here:
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I only put the ends of the links here so my comment doesn't get deleted for advertising or some other dumb filter, put these onto your own youtube links.
Also again with the overdramatic thing, you are cementing your own Bias in the situation and acting like a child.
The problem with the leaked work chat messages is the fact that you don't disprove them and their contents. No matter what YOU believe, or the fact that the photo was proved to not be CP. Chris Ava Tyson BELIEVED IT TO BE CP. And made multiple other jokes about things of that nature which confirms INTENT. It was their INTENT to share CP and that is the allegation that matters. it is honestly in my opinion disgusting to dismiss these matters due to their contents. Dogpack IS IN THE WRONG HERE for reverse image searching it.
Just because Ava Christ Tyson made the chat for edgy nsfw memes. Does not mean that it was not a company chat. The discord had private channels for NSFW and we still condemn them for what they were, ALONG WITH the people who were in them; we do not MIX THE TWO, There were Children in these channels but they also existed ON THE OFFICIAL MR BEAST DISCORD. That is 2 sets of inappropriate conduct, the difference is 1 is a felony and the other is just horrible practices. (It also does not take a rocket scientist to differentiate the two, so do not swap them around or conflate my words in a different manner than is clearly stated.)
More on the work group chat, the opinions of the man who leaked the chat are just that, opinions. It is his opinion that they were not related to the pedophilia Ava Tyson has exhibited in present day.
Also the man who leaked the messages DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS YOUR ARGUEMENT OF IT BEING AN NSFW MEME CHAT. HE CALLS IT A WORK CHAT IN THE CLIP YOU USE!
Also false reports to the FBI can get up to 5 years in prison. I know its a joke, but dude the risks are high for a false report you call "easy". Filling out the forum is easy but when the FBI has the tools to know and find exactly where you are, that prison sentence is just around the corner.
The problem with proving jimmy didn't know is the rest of the contents of the chat and their contents, which you have been selectively picking through and throwing out this entire time. Like Ava assuming the photo of Ivanka trump was UNDERAGE and SAYING IT OUTRIGHT.
For the cancer awareness ones you should be saying allegedly, which you've joked and made points on earlier in the video. Calling Dogpack a creep straight up is not legally advisable. You don't know his intentions, and your only actual interactions with him was him calling you overdramatic.
The thing about the old man is a eyewitness vs eyewitness, but they both are claimed eyewitnesses and we have no concrete proof of falsehood. You trying to dismiss it is using the fallacy of Appealing to Emotion. In which you use emotional responses rather than factual evidence to win an argument.
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finally im shocked that no one has pointed out things you said i think you should make a video you seem a smart guy
4 likesHaven’t read the entire thing yet but u seem very smart u should make ur own video I’ll support u
5 likesThank you, I didn't have the time or effort to put alot of the things hes saying into words, or go as in depth with how you just did, i got halfway through before going "So when are you scrutinizing all of the stuff about mr beast, chris's stuff, what chris did, and the videos of the. Forging and obvious cgi.." because it sounded like he did alot of the same stuff he accused dogpack of, cut videos, had a video of dogpack asking for a 2nd chance, didn't show evidence, then showed an AI video about jake weddle. Like, if that's ai, why can't the other about dogpack be AI? And jake literally said it's ai less than a minute in, if he's worried about "attention span" he would've made his intention more clear and be less disingenuous because he hasn't stopped riding mr beast for over 45 minutes (first half so far.)
6 likesWe 100% can't trust dogpack now, but with how dogpack is and jake weddle is, jake and rosanna still seem really credible to reveal all the lies. Mr beast is still in the wrong
Finally someone who ain't a fucking sheep.
0 likesI can't believe I had to scroll this much to find a person who made sense/wasn't a dick rider/automatic side changer/who knew how to use their brain.
It was obvious from the start that Soggy ain't someone you should trust fully if they're using the common fallacy of appealing to emotion technique you see so many times around, emotion is literally temporarily and the internet is forever , once emotion subsides things come out, one just has to stay patient now and wait.
Also... unless he ACTUALLY VETS HIS SOURCES AND PROVES that audio clip ain't AI, it's literally worthless evidence in this current day and age... I actually fell for it when Jake played his own audio on his video at the time before saying like 10seconds later that it was AI and I was like "Really?!?!", so him USING THIS audio as an argument/proof and right after going after Jake is... laughable man.
Mr beast is an awful human being, not the worst in the world but I didn't know it was a competition nowadays and that you're only bad when you've reach the bad-top :)
Also to you lack of attention span people out there, it's been 2days since this was posted, the video is over an hour long-- if dog pack replies which he probably will, it'll take time, a few more days probably to prepare evidence etc. WAIT for it, don't make fucking assumptions and use his "silence" as an excuse, these things take time to prepare.
There's also the fact that Soggy waited this long to make a video like this?! Like, why wasn't this "audio" used from the let go? If REAL and not AI it would've stopped things before they even got this bad-- there ain't no way on earth that Mr beast wouldn't have come out with said audio way earlier if it was true and be forced to hire crisis lawyers and retort to shitty "I investigated myself, saw nothing wrong" tactics.
Those dick riders out there lack a functioning logic brain.
Wow you wrote a whole essay but pop off I guess ☠️
0 likes@@doodles3114wow, u r soo intelligent and ur points r very well articulated ! i hope he sees this ^^
12 likesThe difference with the man who won 1,000,000 dollars is that it is documented by both Mr beast AND HIMSELF. He hasn't edited out the hardships he had to go through with that money, which lends him extra credibility alongside the continual videos from Mr beast.
28 likesIronic again talking about taking clips out of context.
SO FUCKING IRONIC that you say you aren't biased when you have been talking about your interactions with dogpack this whole time, and said it was why you were ever suspicious of him in the first place.
You also cant confirm those subscribers were random. They may have seemed random to the subscribers themselves but you have no inside info to Mr Beast LLC to confirm they were selected randomly.
All of the parts in the Locoya Hill allegations section are on dogpack's wrongdoing list.
The moon Mission was also on Dogpack's wrongdoing list.
The rusty barge from the raft video was evidence that dogpack did not have access to at the time. Using it in such a way is very very disingenuous. but the other safety concerns and the timer challenge are also onto the list.
The participant of the 24 circles challenge is not Vetted at all and engages is a False Authority on the matter. IE he has dubious credentials to talk on this topic due to his nature of being non-vetted as an actual participant.
The lotteries are scummy yes. But also are not illegal like was once postured by Dogpack.
You scroll by a lot of your DMs but reading them, they are actually quite cordial? I don't know why you would even put them in if they disprove your point of him trying to slander out outright. Slow the video down to .5 or .25 to read them, they are easily readable at that speed. Timestamp: 1:03:36
I personally would have more scrutiny on the employees of Mr beast you interviewed seeing as they are still working there and under NDA. They would be considered Biased or Non-Impartial persons, and should not be taken at face value; just like how you aren't taking anything from Jake Weddle or Dogpack at face value. Not taking these things at face value is a good thing to do for both sides, but offering the privilege of belief to one side over the other is exactly how dogpack took off.
Dogpack is a scumbag. Being a scumbag does not invalidate your investigative work however. The people who exposed EDP445 were absolute scumbags, Keemstar is a major scumbag and internet leech, but he has exposed lots of people for heinous shit, Pegasus absolutely MILKED the Mr. Beast drama and has said some unscrupulous comments about people with certain views or attractions, but he has covered lots of other situations that are much less clickbait-y.
It isn't exactly uncommon for these exposers to not have the best morals or be the best people.
Anyway, Take this video with a shake of salt, I'm out.
what I’ve learned in the past few months is that I just believe anything I watch…
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It’s better to just leave this drama behind bc like 1 month time and someone debunking this shit 😭😭😭
1 like@@AFrisbeeLadno, "sheep following" is blindly trusting a source solely based on public opinion. I can't deny that a lot of dogpacks supporters were sheeps, however a good majority leaned on his perspective because of the evidence he provided and the lack of response from MrBeast. I was also a supported of dogpack before this video so please look at this with the mindset that there may be bias haha.
0 likesDogPack at first provided reasonable evidence and irrefutable claims with the gambling (most of it), those that would try to refute it would be seen as a strong unreliable defender of the corporate man. Once someone establishes a platform, it's hard to look pass was they're saying after that (obvious with MrBeast). I also believe that no one could really look at Jake Weddle with a critical eye considering his story was based off trauma and personal experiences.
I also was more keen to trust the skinny dog because he worked at the company, many also established trust due to this. I think its a tricky situation and we can't blame most of dogpacks defenders (excluding onlyPegasus, I got giant beef with him), however I will admit that the more recent allegations are just wack and should have been looked into deeper by the public. More of a shame considering that Mrbeast couldn't really defend himself and the main narrative of the situation was "underdog vs money hungry cooperation".
@@Annymausd While I admit that I too was a sheep in this regard, I don't agree with blaming the audience, as it's not as simple as everyone blindly jumping on a bandwagon. Dogpack presented himself as a trustworthy source (he actually was an employee), had a plethora of "insider information" (believable due to his prior identity as an employee + NDA stuff), and even brought on an unfortunate victim to help solidify his credibility (Weedle may have lied(?) about the warcrime joke, but he definitely was traumatized by the experience + was already doxxed and such, as stated in the video).
17 likesHonestly, the only reason the situation was exposed so thoroughly was due to Dogpack's slip-up via the Ivanka picture. That, on top of his poor/hostile treatment towards Soggy, caused Soggy himself to actually look more into the situation, shattering Dogpack's image as a reliable figure.
so its basically sheep following sheep@@Annymausd
7 likesBe more critical, plus the dog pack thing was mostly supported by the general community so I don’t blame you
21 likesToo bad, no one’s going to believe this and will say MrBeast paid off his ex-employee to help Soggy expose Dogpack. Or they’re just Glazers/Dickriders. Get the authorities, whose word I only trust. something like that
0 likesReminder that Soggy Cereal is not suicidal
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@Humfreeee It's practically the same comment and that other one is like the top comment on that video or something, but I'm kinda impressed that I remembered that comment even existed in the first place.
0 likes@@JeffTheFatno way bro recognized me 😭
0 likesGet this comment to the same amount of likes he got on the DogPack video (140k or so just so you don't have to go give him more views.)
6 likesI will keep that haha
5 likesBoeing: "Yes he is"
17 likesI cant believe people are still defending dogpack. It’s easier to fool someone than convince them they’ve been fooled.
4 likesThe worst crime to come out of this situation, is Jake Weddle’s “jokes”.
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@@arielperez3613 I would literally sh00t myself for the amount of money that Jake got. Mistreated my ass.
0 likes@@manuela9671yapping
0 likes@@Smokin_5.56 stop hating bro
0 likes@@arielperez3613 i agree with you completely, i just thought it's funny Jake saw this video and decided he's just gonna reply to this comment and nothing else
0 likes@@tenrudy the liar was dogpack. The allegations of him being treated bad is STILL true even if he consented to it because that’s exploiting people desperation for content
0 likes@@JakeWeddle I don't care if dogpack is shady, you still underwent mistreatment by Jimmy. I'm very glad you've recovered and I'm also glad you helped blow the whistle about how ethically dubious this whole content style is
6 likes@@JakeWeddlebro chose to join the challenge after you left your job yourself, made hundreds thousands dollars (that would take people years to make), in like a couple of days while literally failing the challenge, and still crying about it is crazy
1 like@@JakeWeddle Narcissistic freak
0 likes@@JakeWeddle wtf is that jake the weddle
0 likes@@JakeWeddle
1 likeAre you going to cry on Instagram again? I hope you put your money from the DogPack saga to uses outside of entertainment
@@JakeWeddle Jake I honestly want to say something real quick. I get what it's like to feel depressed. And then to suddenly find people you can relate to and that take you in no matter your problems. But you're falling in with the wrong crowd. Dogpack is very manipulative and will drop you the moment you're no longer useful to him. I've known people like that in my own life.
1 likeAnd it might also be a good idea to stay off the internet for a while. To get your mental health back together. Comedy is a great outlet but if you share that stuff with others, not everyone will react positively.
And don't be afraid about not having friends. Hearing the way Dustin spoke about you, I'm 100% sure he can be a good person to latch onto whilst you figure stuff out. You're a social person, you can get along with everyone. And whilst not everyone can get along with you, you've got good people lined up ready to let you into their lives.
Honestly, I kinda thought you were complicit in all this stuff but I sympathize with you. Because I've been where you are right now, years ago. Fell in with bad people that used me for their own gain. But I escaped from that and got an amazing social circle now. You can do the same bud. I know you can.
@@JakeWeddleball cancer.
0 likes@@nelkfullsend I would put it along Rosanna publishing what she thought is cp for clicks
3 likesMr Beast pumping and dumping crypto and making 31 million is probably the worst
3 likes@@JakeWeddleGet tf off this comment section man, cuz clearly this is not ur best work. Ur friend in this video who stayed friends with u is a real one, get a beer with him irl or sth. Cmon.
7 likes@@JakeWeddle
47 likes> video calling me a liar and a fraud: i sleep
>a comment calling me unfunny: REAL SHIT?!!
@@manuela9671 what the fuck?
0 likes@@JakeWeddleanother unfunny joke wow!
18 likes@@JakeWeddle : ... who is your wife. I start to get irritated by that. you always say you hate her. how does she pick this up? poor sod. (it took me a while to understand the comment was written by the comedian himself, you. I had to read it three times, or more, I do not want to lie, god forbid. lol. or... you here must actually be a bot..🤔 never in the world do you hate your wife. that is a test sentence, as in "find all the wifes on that picture, or find all the cars in that picture". 🤔☺
1 like@@JakeWeddlewho is "my wife" and why do u hate him?
10 likesjokes aside hope ur doing alright now
@@JakeWeddle Hope you're alright buddy
26 likes@@JakeWeddleHi Jake :)
3 likes@@JakeWeddle omg hey Jake (i like your comedy btw, just wanna say that)
9 likes@@JakeWeddle holy shit its the guy its actually the guy what the fuck
32 likes@@JakeWeddle How long did it take you to write that one?
61 likesMe too thay guy sucks and is unfunny. I hate my wife and love commenting on soggy waffles content
89 likesGod the first time i found out about Dogpack was bc of youtube recommending Jake Weddle's video. I'm glad to know people found him incredibly irritating and unfunny
61 likesDogpack404: "I am gonna shit on MrBeast. My proof is 95% witness testimonies which cannot be irrefutably prove or disproven."
102 likesSoggy Cereal: "I am gonna shit on Dogpack404. My proof is 95% witness testimonies which cannot be irrefutably prove or disproven."
(yea ik this was already commented by someone but I found it really funny because its so true)
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@j-money6543 What I'm saying is that the company needs to give its ok for the interviews so maybe they influenced what they said so that it would fit their agenda, I'm not saying it's the case, I'm just saying it's a possibility and I don't 100% trust either side
0 likes@bananadog152 but what soggy was asking them had nothing to do with Mrbeast company, it was just about dogpack and ex-employees. Mrbeast can't force them to not talk about it, it was totally optional and people want to talk about their experience since only one side of the story has been heard
0 likes@@j-money6543 Yeah, that's why I say DogPack is sketchy. And I'm not talking about receipts, Soggy is definitely right about those, but due to the interviews, I feel like maybe the Mr. Beast company influenced the video a bit.
0 likes@bananadog152 thats only assuming dogpack is telling the truth. It seems like anyone could tell dogpack anything negative and he publicly states it without ever confirming if its true which is insane and he's been caught multiple times now. Soggy at least brings receipts and made sure to find sources to prove whether something is real or not testimonies aside.
0 likes@@j-money6543 Yeah but if Dogpack said who the sources were, they could get fired or sued, while Soggy interviewed current employees who were not anonymous, showing that the Mr Beast company gave clearance. So, in my opinion, both of them are kinda sketchy
1 like@@j-money6543 dogpack404 also isn't trustworthy
0 likesThe difference is dogpack has never identified his sources at all, it could literally just be dogpack pretending to be 6 anonymous sources instead of actual people. Whereas soggy talked face to face with actual identifiable people. Kind of a big difference.
0 likes@@harrygardner7257yeah it's an entire sonic wave
0 likesNah, dogpack404 obviously manipulated evidence so nothing he says is trustworthy
0 likesExactly!
0 likesPeople like to believe they are freethinkers (me included, I'm not special than anyone else) yet go with the flow of the most popular belief even though there isn't any real proof.
Like people be saying stuff like "Aha, I knew Dogpack was always so fishy", even though they THEMSELVES were on his Side!
Same goes for people who always thought Mrbeast was fishy!
Sure, we may have seen some odd signs...but ain't no way you predicted the situation to go like this...(not trying to say all people, but most of us)
Yeah this whole situation is a bloodbath
8 likesat this point i think everyone works for Pegasus, for him to make more money
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True
0 likesthe amount of insane primary reporting you've done on your channel is really REALLY impressive
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Minecraft community is here (oh yeah it's controversy stuff) checks out
0 likes@@The3ditor_ as i said i am the real tyler the creator okokokok lalalala
0 likeso/
0 likesi am the real tyler the creator okokokok lalalala
0 likesSo glad I've actually stuck with your content for like a year now. Glad it was someone who actually researches their stuff. I didn't want to click on another "MrBeast Situation is Crazy" video. But this one adds to the conversation and actually adds perspective, motives, and some newfound information. Rather than the "Rich Youtuber (who fired me) Bad" thing that we keep seeing from DogPack. Like yeah, getting large amounts of money is hard to do morally. But not every little thing MrBeast does is going to be moral. Not justifying the alleged Crypto scams or questionably moral things that MrBeast does though. (Like filming people in poor situations for clout, marketing unhealthy food to kids, etc.)
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There's investigative journalism and then there's commentary. Commentary is when someone makes a video commenting about their thoughts and opinions about a given situation based on the information provided to them whether it be true or false. Investigative Journalism is actually investigating the situation, putting all the evidence and new information together and providing those findings to the public. If you are trying to get newfound information from a commentary channel, you're not going to get it because that's not their job. I'd say this video has a mix of both, He's investigating the whole situation to get new information, providing his findings while also sharing his thoughts and opinions about it.
5 likesAn investigative journalist shouldn't show any bias in their work and only provide the facts. They are supposed to be trustworthy. Unfortunately, some journalists do let their bias control their work and that can lead to spreading misinformation to the public.
But why is mrbeast deleting comments on his videos and did not respond im not trying to defend dogpack but i just want to know the truth
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@@calf1sh pretty self-explanatory
0 likesno proof 😂@@idkwhattonamethisshti
1 likehe got paid by mrbeast to make this lol.
3 likesThere are actually some allegations that i would love to see addressed as well that weren't here! (Yes i know he said he doesn't remember all of them but i hope they are)
8 likesLike the "building a hospital from scratch video" where dogpack claims they only installed solar panels and manipulated the video with CGI
The allegations that TeamSeas didn't actually contribute to reducing pollution
Was the MrBeast games actually a terribly negligent and unprepared event or something more sinister (and what about the people who participated and sued the company for it)
Why they were deleting comments and videos and SNIPPING content from past videos if they weren't actually guilty
What about the "stranded in a cave" video where it's shown that they just went through an attraction and were never in real danger
And also, the 100 wells video where you don't know if they did make 100 wells or not, and why some pictures can be seen as reused
All in all, this video makes me feel sad. If the allegations can be so easily disproven as this video has, why hasn't the company simply addressed them already and has been hiding for 3 months in silence?
I think both dogpack and mrbeast are horrible people (according to the new crypto allegations) and i believe the drama is unfortunately just gonna keep spiraling and people will be milking it regardless...
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@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms I completely agree that the video is only opposing dogpack claims, but dogpack DID talk about the 100 wells, the cave, the hospital and teamseas, which is why i do want to see what the response to that is
0 likesAnd I'm also making this comment because this guy seems to be doing a better job than the actual company on debunking lmao, so i'm maybe being a bit hopeful that he goes further and interviews more people from the company, as he was clearly able to do so
This video was mainly in opposition of DogPack's claims in his videos rather than in defense of MrBeast, which is probably why that those points weren't addressed
1 likeAnd yeah, I'd agree that deleting comments and not responding sooner wasn't the greatest idea. Maybe it was because of the internal investigation, but that's just me.
This is LITERALLY why a group of young adults under the age 30 can't run a huge media, food & marketing agency. You need to have the stuffy executives in suits to ensure rules/laws are being held. There was a reason Michael Scott hated Toby (in the office); because he was ensuring managers can't just do ANYTHING without consequence.
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@pheonix2700 That's the pros & cons of being the head honcho. You make the rules, set the atmosphere & stand to make the most but at the same time take all the responsibility, blame & can lose the most too.
14 likesYet people will call you a mrbeast apologist for saying this isnt completely Jimmy's fault and he isnt somehow a "bad" person because of thus
21 likesDid MrBeast delete his comment on this video??
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nah it sunk down probably due to hella dislikes
0 likesI found his Comment in DingoBroLug video "MrBeast Is Innocent"
0 likes@@TheJOEsenOneHe did say that this video was focused on showing dogpacks lies and not defending mrbeast, he also said that he might have missed some allegations
2 likes@@ermtosis exactly. Personally feel like soggy completely sold out on this video.
1 likeEspecially seeing as he interviewed CURRENT MrBeast employees and they would have NEEDED permission from Mrbeast to do the interview.
He also flew to North Carolina… why could he have just done the interviews via Skype or some sort of video call? Chances are, where he did the interviews were probably in the beast studios.
@@TheJOEsenOnehe also didnt mention the beast games and team sea things too
1 likeYeah, I’ve been looking for his comment aswell…
13 likesDoesn’t MrBeast follow soggy on X now?
Seems weird how MrBeast started to follow soggy before this video got released…
Also, as informative as this video was, soggy missed out so many other dogpack points. Like the cgi of a hospital building on the philanthropy video.
Also, all the big YouTubers he gets to feature in videos who are just “random”, like the guy who won the chocolate factory video.
This video seemed more of an attack on dogpack , rather than actually finding facts that MrBeast is a fraud.
And no, I’m not defending dogpack.
I think this whole situation is beyond boring now and absolutely pointless.
Mrbeast is never going to own up to his mistakes, nor will his reputation get tarnished. He is absolutely loving all these videos about him, because it keeps him in the spotlight, so people are rushing to his videos when he uploads.
@@jonathanjohnson4594plus he also follows Soggy on Twitter/X
0 likes@@pot3543 direct quote “Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol”
14 likeshe liked the video
What did he comment?
0 likesI can’t find it anymore but I have it screenshotted
0 likesI saw that too
1 likeThis is what bro was gone for
183 likesIt’s not sponsored. Dogpack direct messaged him at the beginning of the video. Also he doesn’t fully defend Jimmy he includes some true claims that Dawson made. Don’t be delusional
9 likesso DOGPACK and MRBEAST both are evil ? never would've guessed
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It was poorly informed sarcasm, that’s what it was
1 like@@chinyang1200In Coffeezilla’s video, he exposed Mr. Beast being part of Crypto scams, so he is evil alongside Dogpack.
0 likes@@chinyang1200 it was sarcasm
1 likeI wouldn't call me beast Evil imo , But Dogpack definitely falls in to that category for me cause of how many Lies he spread and Using " allegedly"" as a Get out of Jail free card for everything
9 likesThis is so funny to see you use "his" tactics against him
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@@vennadore The focus in this video is on Dogpack's massive slander. The more quantity (accusations) = the more low to high quality varies in addressing all accusations rightfully and evidentially. It is now clear that Dogpack404 is lying, but it is also clear that not everyone is perfect and not everyone knows all the right ways of addressing and what all are considered objective to justify an allegation.
0 likesWhy did you put “his” in quotation marks?
1 likeI would trust Mr Beast then Dogbreath404 @@mad3ub_
0 likes@Callum0814 I get what you are saying but you also need to consider the marketing Mr.Beast is doing . If the Feastables bar had actually turned out to be more junkier then the Hershey's bar , then Hershey's would have a valid reason to sue Mr.Beast for misinformation and slander.
1 like@@anshismad4092 feastables are healthier you cant say otherwise you talk about per gram but in the real world we are comparing two standard size bars so you cant talk about per gram, its a 8g difference between the bars with Hershey's being larger and you are being deceitful to people to claim that per gram healthiness matters here as it doesnt as Feastables IS sold as 1 serving size bars which COMPETE with Hershey's 1 serving size bars too compare the feastables "king" size bar is stupid as the difference is way bigger in size meaning that the" king" size bar clearly isnt competing against Hershey's standard size its competing against Hershey's version of "king" size bars. Dogpacks claim is not valid and neither is yours. if you simply used your brain and hands that god has given you, you could of done one google search and looked at two websites and 5 minutes of reading! You would be able to see my point and that I am right. (sources: https://feastables.com/products/milk-chocolate, https://www.hersheyland.com/products/hersheys-milk-chocolate-candy-bars-9-3-oz-6-pack.html)
0 likes@@anshismad4092 Milk and coke is not comparable in anyway, milk is (usually) a healthy drink and coke isnt. We are comparing two already unhealthy things here, serving size is how much you should be eating, we see this kind of comparison all the time and its a subtle tatic used by a lot of "healthier" option products but you dont complain becuase it isnt pointed out, or made by a figure that people want to find a reason to hate.
0 likes@@YeeHeee this isnt a maths problem its real world, comparing the weight of products that compete for the same position in their respective position in the market is stupid as they are filling the same positions you just eat less of one compared to the other and if you cant deal with having to eat a little less the fact 1 has less calories per serving shouldn't matter to you in the first place.
0 likes@@Callum0814 The judgement dogpack made was unfair . Imagine if I compare a 140g Hershey's bar to a 42g Feastables bar and call Hershey's unhealthy .
1 likeClearly you haven't studied maths if you believe that the above comparison is fair.
@@Callum0814 isn't it unfair to compare 2 serving sizes on calories and sugar if they are different amounts?
2 likesThats like comparing 1 glass of milk to 2 sips of coke and saying that coke is better for you(obviously exaggerating here but you get the point)
@@anshismad4092 serving size is what is MEANT to be eaten, people who do diets and also people who care about their health follow serving sizes and just because you dont follow serving sizes(which you definitely do and have) doesnt mean others will
1 like@@Callum0814 Yeah it does but that's per serving size not per gram, nobody actually eats chocolate as per
1 likeserving size
@@anshismad4092 he is still spamming it under every comment and also soggy corrects that dogpack ignores serving size and ontop of that the feastable bar does have less calories and sugar (source:nutritionix)
1 like@@Callum0814nah I think what they meant was that soggy cereal did his calcs wrong. 43 grams of hersheys is 220 calories and if you calculate 43 grams of feastables(360 total calories divided by 60 grams is 6 calories per gram, so 43x6) you get 258 which is not as high as dogoack stated but still more than a hersheys bar
3 likesEdit : He said that he recalculated both to 43 grams but the calories and sugar shown in the vid is for 35 grams
@@vennadore > said that certain time stamps that none of it is evidence despite the fact what he's saying at that time wasn't about evidence yet
8 likes> saying that an interview with the person that has been through the situation isn't evidence (how much more do you want and do you have evidence to disclaim his points)
> saying that HR and Lawyers are the least trustworthy source, despiite the fact the lawyers he hired are top lawyers with high credibility, and that he also interviewed many different employees that have far more work experience there than dogpack
> "you're talking about stuff I haven't said at all, learn to argue"
What did you talk about then?
@@user-lq3jw3ov8z holy shit you guys are just as ignorant as DPs fans.
0 likes@naganut9718 you're talking about stuff I haven't said at all. Learn to argue.
0 likes@@vennadore
13 likesYou're making two statements that aren't even talking about evidence, like wtf you talking about?
> What timelapse are you talking about? The point was that people isn't always being random challengers isn't a bad thing, and its understandable to take certain safety percautions
> Having a fullblown interview with the guy is a much bigger evidence than what Dogpack brought. You can also just look up when the video was uploaded
> "Interview being paid off by Mr Beast" he reviews far, FAR more employees than Dawson, with actual work experience there. All dogpack interviewed was some sociopathic employee with the mental strength of a 4 year old child that cries after being called ugly by his friends
> Calling famous top lawyer such as Quinn Emanuel and Sullivan "non trustworthy" is insane. Is some internet detective who proven to falsely accuse the wrong guy of domestic abuse more reliable and trustworthy to you?
it is not his tactics. Soggy is playing with honor.
0 likes@@vennadore This entire comment is cope.
9 likesEven if I give you the benifit of the doubt , there are still several double digit instances where dog pack was intentionally trying to paint Mr beast in a bad light due to his personal resentment towards him , I don't wanna insult someone or Anything man but if you actually believe that dogpack is the "good guy' idk what to say.
6 likesBoth , mr beast AND dogpack are not trustworthy.
@@leontriestoart had all the clues but still failed to spot the troll. i pray for your internet endeavors
0 likesYou mean accusations with a source called "trust me bro"?
9 likes55:50 No evidence at all, also the timelapse in the video is the whole night, not an "hour"
56:50 No evidence Jeremy T. Grant participated in the "24 people in the circle challenge" at all
And the final part of interviewing the MrB employees, who are literally on a payroll and have a reason to say anything to preserve their image, is just laughable. After months of damage control in MrB team, out of all possible people, he interviews an HR employee, the least trustworthy person in any company, right after the lawyers... And I really hoped this video would actually be objective for once.
@@leontriestoart its just a spam account I doubt this guy is older than 10 judging his quantity over quality of "point"
11 likes@@zonatedspore97acamasyou've copy pasted this comment quite a bit, can you tell me what was he wrong about?
53 likesIs no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables?
8 likesI thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars??
@leontriestoart fr
7 likesNot even using "tactics" he's just spitting facts 😭😭
67 likesCan't wait for slop drama channels to take soggy's side as soon as they sense new content that can be milked
25 likesMr. Beast assuming I would watch an hour and a half long video to change my opinion of him was just another grave misstep in a series of unfortunate mistakes. His continued silence speaks volumes and if he had wanted to win back viewers, he should have just addressed them himself. At this point I cannot even give him 10 minutes of my time, let alone an hour and a half. The damage is done and unfortunately I feel it is the end Jimmy. I’m truly sorry.
15 likesso glad i stuck around instead of assuming you were going to support mrbeast
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@@bailfire2741I personally would not want to be friends with someone who hates me because of traits I have no control over
0 likes@@bubbachildsupport4535 eh, hate the sin not the sinner. i can be friends with a racist and still not share their views, instead constantly wish for them to change
0 likes@@homoaspienout of all messed up things he did and what you care the most is him being friend with transphobes? fuck that you are grossing me out rn
0 likes@@bailfire2741 why would i want to connect with someone like that though? they obviously don't appreciate human life and I find that to be a irreconcilable difference in philosophy
3 likes@lieutenantfunk cause you can still connect with people and see the good in them? You are choosing hate like they are
1 like@@bailfire2741 idk where my reply went so: i would normally agree with your statement but the example you used is so bad. if you hate gays, you are ABSOLUTELY "them" to me. thats like hating someone for being straight, or being ugly, or being a man. They are either choosing to be hateful and using their religion as an excuse, or refusing to learn and grow with the world. Which is totally their choice, but also they can;t blame anyone for not wanting to associate with their outdated, hateful ideals. dafuq?
2 likes@bubbachildsupport4535 but to blanket statement is wrong. All rectangles are squares, but not all squares are rectangles. That in my opinion is the main divide in politics.
0 likes@@bailfire2741 yeah no i'd rather not support someone who aligns with logan paul of all people, its weird how you think its normal
1 like@bubbachildsupport4535 my aunt is gay and guess what! She is friends with people who hate gays. They still absolutely appreciate each other and they have their difference of opinion. Not everything needs to be devisive, not everything needs to be a them vs us type deal.
1 like@@ghastlypompano2but that depends tho, like you said some will vote for a person because of economic issues but some do also vote because they share that politicians moral position and ideology. Like there are people that voted for trump for his stance against trans and minorities and you can’t blame those groups of people for not wanting to associate with those voters.
1 like@@bailfire2741but you would be a fake friend tho wouldn’t you? If you have trans friend but still are buddy buddy with a transphobe, that says something about you. That you don’t really care about said trans friend if you’re being cool with a person that actively despises them. That like still being cool with a person that talk shit about your friend, that’s some snake like behavior.
2 likes@officialmonarchmusic a monster? Wtf u guys are seriously retarded
0 likes@@bailfire2741 MrBeast is still a monster. At least, he's guilty of gross negligence to the extreme
0 likes@@bailfire2741his chocolate company uses child and slave labor i personally think liking a guy like that is wrong
2 likesYeeeaaahhh I’m not making friends with a Trump supporter, and because of my position as someone who is a minority and cares about women, I’d rather avoid conservative drama and stick to my ‘echo chamber’ and community so I don’t risk my life trying to reach out to the other side.
5 likes@@homoaspien I don't really associate political beliefs with people's morals or how they really are as a person. It honestly just ruins relationships (lovers or family) just because they voted a politician they hate
2 likes@@homoaspienTrump is objectively a better president, he may be a bad person doesn’t mean he’s not a good leader
0 likes@@homoaspien No, political beliefs are not a reflection of someone's morals. Saying they are is decisive and leads to shouting matches where both people on each side think of themselves as a saint and all others as a devil. Sometimes literally.
15 likesOne person says "I would like if 'candidate A' won and fixed the economy through 'proposition A'."
The other says "I would like if 'candidate B' won and fixed the economy through 'proposition B'."
If both of them believe that a political stance is a moral reflection, then that instantly makes them believe the other is bad and actively wants to hurt people. They both fail to realize that they are both saying "I would like if the economy was fixed."
Literally everyone in the whole world is shouting that in unison. There is not a single group of people (other than the vicious elite, which couldn't even pass a state rep if they all voted together) that wants the economy to crumble and fail, and for people to be hurting. Any examples I can think of for people who actively want the economy to fail are fringe and outliers that get painted as the representatives of the "other side".
Yes, even the people you are thinking of right now.
@@bailfire2741 mr beast is working with scammers. Logan paul and ksi has done lots of scamming in crypto currency
0 likes@@bailfire2741you can’t be older than 15
0 likes@@homoaspien Dude its just people. You can stand for rights and still be friends with people who believe other stuff. I dont like trump, yet I have a friend who likes trump and is a very good human being. They just see the world differently and so do I. Does that mean I should stop being friends? No! It just means we believe different stuff and thats okay!
9 likes@ Political beliefs are a reflection of one’s morals. Additionally MrBeast has sold himself as a good person who stands for the environment, trans rights, helping the homeless, and providing healthcare. He shouldn’t be so buddy buddy with people who endorsed Trump and are very publicly transphobic. Even though Ava is awful, I feel bad for her that she had to put up with Jimmy tolerating transphobic outsiders like Musk and Paul on a day to day basis.
18 likes@homoaspien oh my gosh so what they don't align with your political affiliations... he doesn't align with mine... but that doesn't matter. I don't need to agree on everything to like or respect a person. We all have our standing and stuff and that shouldn't determine how we view someone solely
8 likes@@bailfire2741Sorry bro I have no interest in supporting someone who glazes Logan Paul and Elon Musk.
26 likes@@Juiceboxlmao Yea most people enjoy getting other people to burn, but if that was you I dont think you would be so happy having your name dragged into the mud. Like this stuff is stupid. He did stupid stuff, he made some mistakes, and he also tries to fix them. Thats what we should measure people by is the sincerity of their actions and their attempts to fix their mistakes. Not just endless lashback and brainless thought.
8 likes@@bailfire2741 thats on you but some people aint like that
38 likes@saltycritic i like mr beast and the world isn't so black and white. Not everyone is great including you. Let's just stop the witch hunt and enjoy watching mr beast spend his money
16 likes@@bailfire2741 neither are good
69 likesBro there is nohting wrong with supporting mr beast holy
7 likesHow Soggy Cereal destroyed Dogpack404 -Internet Anarchist 2024
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@@JohnOnChans he had an old channel which he tried creating drama on and tried canceling someone for no reason, I think, except it backfired in him
0 likesHe also made a bunch of false allegations about YouTubers, for example, thetekkitrealm
@@rosemulet I'm a little perplexed. Can you explain what happened?
0 likes@@rosemulet he made a load of false allegations against thetekkitrealm.
0 likes@ WAMO was his old channel. He lied about people except that time, it backfired.
1 likeThe drama in question is that he promoted a video of mine on his community tab, I’m literally not even joking.
1 like@@normalperson7 yeah lol the dude purposely elevated some niche drama between me and a friend of mine that no one cared about just so he could make a video on it.
1 like@@rosemulet hol up you spittin ???
0 likesInternet Anarchist is a horrible person
0 likes@@VisualAuditoryHillucinationsOf What is a wamo?
0 likesInternet Anarchist is Wamo. He also made a loa dog false allegations about TheTekkitRealm
0 likes@@pieynot9084 also the mosikritikal glazing
1 like@@normalperson7 Finally someone understands. Internet Anarchist is discount Sunnyv2 except he leaves his sh*t opinions in his videos. His tf2 videos were generic af.
1 like@alyaly2355 his previous channel. He tried to cancel zesty Jesus (a tf2 youtuber) but got canceled himself. Afterwards he quit the tf2 scene and is now internet anarchist. Ppl like him are leeches ngl, waiting for the downfall of others and profiting off of them.
8 likes@@HourglassBenwhat’s a WAMO
1 like@@HourglassBenwhat’s a WAMO
1 likeOn top of that. Nick deorio. Watched this on stream right away & praised soggy.
0 likesNo no no it’ll be “How Charlie destroyed Dogpack404”
5 likes@@CreativeSidSkits What's wamo?
1 likeHe'll find a way to shoe horn Charlie in there also.
9 likes@@HourglassBen You didn't know? Everyone knows he is Wamo.
1 like@@treehugger8858 HE'S FUCKING WAMO?!?!?
10 likes@@normalperson7 internet wamo-archist
4 likesaka that one dude who abondoned his shitty tf2 channel
10 likesthis whole thing has taught me i need to not take sides immediately 💀 i was so ready for the takedown of mrbeast that i believed every word dogpack said. interesting to look inside why exactly i did that lol
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Then don't start taking sides immediately now, either.
1 likeThis video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
So you instantly believe soggy cereal?
0 likes...
First believe mr beast, then dogpack, and now soggy cereal...
Remember that soggy cereal might also be lying
@@GatorHungry everyone wished 'positive' things that they want to do were easy to distribute for everyone but unfortunately no. Once you are influential, there are many things to consider and have towards what you want to show the viewers (without ill intentions) so it remains fair for everyone, but one or multiple unknown mishap that is consider unacceptable and everyone will judge your actions. Depending how you act on a mishap you were unaware and how much you're unawareness of those situation, almost everyone or majority won't accept you anymore if you act in a wrong way.
0 likes@@96jenniekim its okay you admitted to it when you didnt need to anyways lol
0 likesim getting cooked in these replies and rightfully so, i know im gullible 😭something to work on i guess!!!
1 likeOR, hear me out, use your damn brain and don't trust a guy that uses "allegedly" every 3 sentences?
2 likesFirst time? I learned that while back with the entire dream pdf allegations.
2 likesYou got to admit, that was some good propaganda
1 likei didnt pick sides when i saw dogpack argue with such disinginious arguments like saying that he manipulated his audience by saying like for a cookie. Just felt like all he wanted to do is bring down mr beast
1 like@@GatorHungry Exactly. Youtubers act like journalists without assuming any of the responsibilities. Do not trust lazy slop creators.
2 likesI think all the youtubers that reported on the situation exposed just how lazy your favourite creators actually are. Everyone I saw did little to no research to verify the claims in his videos and instead just put Dogpacks allegations into different words followed with a 'damn this is crazy'. Hopefully this is a sign for people to stop trusting youtubers. You yourself will always be your most reliable source and youtubers don't care to try and be fair and give both sides a chance almost all of the time because they don't view themselves as journalists, only as drama channels which should be held to the same standard anyway. Even the youtubers that were calling out Mr beast years before Dogpack made this mistake. There are so many other allegations against him that actually have shit to back it up but they don't care about doing good only getting your attention and maybe another subscriber.
4 likesSame thing for most/some wars
1 likeWe’re coming for you next lil bro
1 like@@ccaagg dogpack was a red flag for me when he kept saying "allegedly" or he had info he couldnt reveal but "trust me bro". Like we were just supposed to believe his claims without evidence. 😂
12 likesOr just don't wait to be told what to think. Think critically. It was always obvious there was more to DogPack because of his weird behaviour and tenuous claims, so not every content creator jumped on the bandwagon for precisely those reasons (such as Ludwig, who got torn to shreds for it).
42 likesI don't think the lesson is not to take sides and wait for something like this. I think what you should take to heart is to use your own brain and not someone else's.
What you're implying is that if this video and others like it didn't come along and tell you what to think, then you wouldn't have changed your mind from what you were told to think earlier. That's not good. Think for yourself.
I just don't get why Jake the Viking, who really has no reason to lie about this particular thing would say that the RSO sat down with not just MrBeast but his mother and admit to being an RSO before being hired and/or fired. He would be more reliable to believe about that than either Dogpack, MrBeast or yourself. I truly think he did know, so I think that point causes you to lose a bit of credibility. The rest makes sense, I just don't get why Jake would say that if it weren't true.
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Probably to protect family and throw Mr beast Under the bus by making it look like Mr beast knowingly hired a Criminal and following along the dogpack video
3 likesthank you for debunking everything thoroughly WITH actual evidence 😭🙏 dogpack's stories and allegations were honestly super fishy and im glad my suspicions are now confirmed
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Issue: the people being interviewed are former mrbeast employees who KNOW that dogpack is getting sued. Why side against someone who can easily sue you?
2 likesThere are a few allegations that haven’t been debunked or confirmed. But dogpacacks strategy is to throw allegations and hopes some are true
0 likesdogpack is still right 😂😂😂😂 yall meat riders go WILD
1 likeI'm not gonna play the "I always knew it!" card considering I trusted him a lot at first, but I'm surprised not a lot of people raised an eyebrow at dogpacks and Rosannas constant anti mrbeast videos. Them calling that house "ai" was literally so hilarious, it was obviously a simple editing mistake. It really shows that once you build a strong reputation; you can get away with ANYTHING.
1 likeEver since dogpack's third video, I've recognized his bad journalism, but in my opinion, the few things that were still proven true are enough to still condemn MrBeast. This isn't his exoneration. He still sucks
4 likesAs a guy who watch mr beast video I knew who was spitting lies half the time.
0 likesthis is why I love soggy, so much research and effort goes into his videos.
2 likesHe's cooked now, idk whether Rosanna is gonna get dragged into the situation too, but I i think the best move for Dogpack is to ignore everything until MrBeast makes a small mistake and then go all out milking that mistake until everyone starts siding with him again just like how MrBeast handled it
14 likes@ crypto allegation is done separately from Dogpack allegations, thanks god. But this is about a scummy fraud who trick people for clout.
0 likesI agree, most of his stuff is just exaggerated nonsense, but there are still factors that are true, like the most recent crypto drama mr beast has been exposed for
40 likesI dont know whats going on. The only things i know are, Mr Fraud is a Scammer like Logan Paul and that wont change
0 likesToo bad, no one’s going to believe this and will say MrBeast paid off his ex-employee to help Soggy expose Dogpack. Or they’re just Glazers/Dickriders. Get the authorities, whose word I only trust. something like that
1 likeEdit: also they will likely use the Crypto scam allegation to back them up
Can't wait for the "How Soggy Cereal Saved MrBeast's Career" essays to come up!
27 likesI love your journalistic integrity, but I noticed at 53:05 you ignored the fact that the contestant is literally sped up when the timer is counting down normally
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Buddy it's sped up for like half a second, what does it even prove???
0 likesThis one is probably one of the few with some truth to it. They probably had a timer on set but either added effects to it or changed it in post.
6 likesYeah, timer being there in the photo doesn't really mean it was / wasn't edited in post at all.
10 likesNot to mention he missed the part where the guy touches the laser too
35 likesYou can also see that jimmy’s movements beside the contestant are sped up too
23 likesThis, imo, is pretty undeniable proof that the video is faked
3 likesSo Mr. Beast employees were sent to talk all this ish on Dog Pack and y’all are going to eat it up?
3 likesIt is sad that your video, full of facts and hard effort, does not get as much views or money as the drama youtube channels that add nothing to the scene... I hope youtube wakes up and helps your channel spread the truth on a bigger scale...
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@@jeffjefforson1435(hopefully)
0 likesDw more pegasus will make a vid on this and this vid will also probably blow up
0 likes@@yungchimp But this video would help with that since its purpose was to disprove some of dogpack's claims.
10 likesYoutube kinda has incentive to keep MrBeast around, he makes them and a lot of other wealthy individuals massive amounts of money.
7 likesDude, thank you so much for that deep dive. I got weird vibes by dogpack404's video, but I'm way too busy in RL to keep up with YouTube drama atm. Great video!
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Same and it's about the election rn. It's really bad💀
1 like@@thecatinthehat125 yeah also there are multiple videos about it
2 likes@@Mr.Starlight Because he already thought DogPack’s video didn’t make sense, as he just said. And this is concrete, because unlike DogPack, he uses actual evidence and isn’t making stupid claims. I noticed all these errors too before I saw the video, but I obviously didn’t make a video about it because I don’t have a channel.
2 likes@@Mr.Starlight I know that Soggy goes out of his way to get information confirmed and every one of his claims he can proof, while dogpack404 throws a lot of weird sh*t around and sees what sticks.
1 likeSame. The way his videos were formatted felt a bit sloppy for my taste
2 likes@@Fusion725 can you really
1 like@@Mr.Starlight i can trust tho
3 likes@@Fusion725why do you believe him so quickly instead of staying neutral until something becomes actually concrete?
5 likesI knew Mr beast would never do that
3 likes@@TheTreehouseOfMinethe slop thickens
6 likesThe plot thickens as dog pack is exposed by the soggiest cereal
22 likesalmost in tears that the truth is finally coming out
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@@manuela9671this doesnt prove mrbeast is innocent
0 likes@@aleksandrmaksimov2818
0 likesDogPack,
1. Falsely manipulated his audience by lying on the internet
2. Made false accusations against innocent ppl
3. Made ppl who has nothing to do with this drama get harassed on the internet
4. Violated his NDA
5. And what he is doing is illegal
Make sure to drink every single drop of your bf DogPack's juice lil bro
@@aleksandrmaksimov2818fraudpack404 glazer
0 likesYou're still the og of exposing dogshit404 .
0 likes@@aleksandrmaksimov2818 Ask Dogpack
1 likeHello, glazer. Want a Mr Beast comment on your page too?
1 like@@jacobmurray8574 Why should he? He didn't groom kids and scammed his audience for money
0 likesSame
0 likesYou deserve this Stucky
2 likesThanks for countering dogpack when soggy was getting evidence
You saved about 60k people from being fooled ❤
Underrated content creator right here. I remember watching the Ludwig interview video a few months back, and I’m happy to see you’re finally getting the attention you deserve
0 likesYo bro watching since 1.2k keep it up
1 likeYo what’s up Stucky I love your videos man
1 likeThe moment we've been waiting for
1 likeI actually cried today, for real.
1 likeMy Goat is here
1 likeDog pack won’t go down without a fight I’m afraid
2 likesI'm very much expecting another video of you screaming your lungs out😭
3 likesLets goooo
2 likesYOOOOOO STUCKY
1 like@@tresjackson3027 NUXANOR IS THE BEST
0 likesHopefully all this will finally cease to continue. But knowing a certain commentary channel that ends with “sus” it’ll probably be another week or two
4 likesThe goated youtuber stucky
6 likesHey man, you're a great youtube creator :)
9 likesHey Stucky! THE END IS NEAR!
7 likes...hopefully.
Also, just because they had a good reason to fake the raft video for safety reasons DOESN’T meant it wasn’t faked.
3 likesOk, I’m just going to say it here. We NEED to hold YouTubers like Kavernacle, EntLaiser, MorePegasus, CamNuggets, etc further accountable for their role in spreading false information to MILLIONS of people.
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@@Marchers46you would get bitched in a debate with kavernacle lmfao, run a dialectic with him
0 likesNot sure about the others but MorePegasus has literally stated that his job is just to summarize the allegations out there. Thats what hes been doing for long before this thing.
1 like@@pieynot9084 Wait, really?
0 likes@@some_gaming💯🥛
0 likesI remember when Kavernacle made a video about how PewDiePie spread an alt-right dogwhistle out of a 10 second clip where he mentioned "mass migration" in which he didn't even know the full context of it.
1 like@@CamNuggets keep acting tough
0 likes@@cjinworldofgaming511 Got it.
0 likes@@harharharharharharharharha240 Because, it seems like he hasn’t spoken about DP on his main channel. Which i think is important, given that he did use this drama to reiterate his opinion.
0 likes@@DenaliGordonNick Smith would never watch kids
1 likeWhy kavernacle? He already had beef with mr beast before this. He used this one moment to reiterate his opinion and mentioned the Amazon Prime mrbeast show allegations.
10 likes@@cjinworldofgaming511 Ok.
0 likesAdd Jack Saint into the mix
0 likes@@CamNuggetsOh look, it's a lolcow in its natural habitat
0 likes@@CamNuggetsoh my god you’re so insecure it’s so sad lmao go wack off in your community discord you degenerate
1 likeIf it didn't happen to mrbeast, then it ain't happening to them either
0 likesmediocre (at the absolute best) commentary youtuber spotted@@CamNuggets
3 likes@@Marchers46 really?
0 likes@@Tunk6no9 Thanks, some would say it’s SPLENDID.
0 likes@@CamNuggets Bro be looking at under-age chocolate starfishes.
5 likesFirst I agree second your profile picture is epic
0 likes@@CamNuggets Bro watching a kid spread the cheeks is crazy
0 likes@@CamNuggetswomp womp to the kid you were watching at 32:40
5 likes@@CamNuggetscan’t censor people here
4 likesWomp womp
@@Marchers46 I get what you're saying.
0 likes@@jaydenle1000 Oh, I know. But, it’s always fun to mess with people like him.
1 like@@Marchers46Ignore him and don't reply to him, it's obvious he wants you to give him attention.
3 likes@@ebot1944 I ain’t sure.
0 likeswhy does kavernacle look like idksterling tho
1 like@@CamNuggetsyou're an ass
3 likes@@CamNuggets Oh great, it’s you.
39 likes@@kimkardashianruinedmylife ESPECIALLY HER. But, we all already knew that.
9 likesAnd Rosanna Pansino
52 likeswomp womp
11 likeshuge respect for this video, journalistic integrity seems to disappear online when it's about someone the public doesn't like. taking allegations and running with it is way too rampant
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Wish I had your name
0 likesI remember arguing with a friend about the monetization issue on dogpacks video. I made the same point about him gaining a huge amount of subscribers in such a short time. That's a HUGE opportunity on YouTube. My buddy just replied "the video isn't monetized so..."
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@@LaprasSurfer Maybe dogpack's old channel will help? As for Mr.Breast , only a professional firm can answer that.
1 like@@YeeHeee ye it's definitely out of spite. Mr beast and dogpack are hiding something, but I don't know what.
1 likeI forgot how to spell that word
2 likes@@LaprasSurfer Maybe it's out of spit?
1 like@@YeeHeeeim not sure that dawson frenxh would make the video for clout considering that hes getting sued
1 likeAlso he has gotten himself collaborations with big YouTubers like Rosanna Pansino (because she was validly upset that she was cut out of getting second place).
5 likesThe boob video idea was so funny when Dogpack brought it up to Rosanna because you just know if Mr Beast said that same thing, they would use it to point out him being weird.
Dogpack is more about the clout , not money . At least that's what I have noticed.
17 likesclever how coffee avoided all these allegations and just concentrated on potential crypto ponzi scheme he just earned my trust even more
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Every smart or unbiased person can clearly see what dogpack did there ,anyone could have debunked most of the claims but the hate against Mr beast was so strong defending him is an actual career suicide like soggy said, the best thing for these creators to do was wait until someone was ready to risk it all , after a couple back and forth a starting now , many commentary channels will start speaking on this, the crypto is the only strong allegation and one more ig I forgot which
3 likesDisappointing that Dawson may be a fraud too... but I still wont let my kids watch Mr. BS content. Dude is just in it for the $$ and he just doesnt seem like a trustworthy person.
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@@Queef_Storm yes obviously they aren’t going to be supervising what there kids are watching 24/7 🙄 they probably just told there kids to not watch jimmy nd that’s it. always dumb commenters on the internet lmao
8 likesBro quit lying you're not supervising what your kids watch on their ipads 18 hours a a day and you don't care either
2 likesDogPack404 got on my nerves so much, the way he spoke just made me so pissed and suspicious
265 likesSad that this happened, happy it was revealed
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@@SolaireOfToastno one is really denying that,moreso about the fact that both people can be a PoS at the same time
0 likes@@iAtePotatoChips Oh and he is friends with Logan Paul, the biggest Scumbag in the internet, scammer, liar and psycho. How can you be friends with that, while being good?
0 likes@@iAtePotatoChips I mean.. the fact he was still friends with Cris before this and knew he was a creep is wild. I couldnt be a good person, being best friends with a damn creep.
0 likesSure he was once good, but no one knows when he was corrupted. Based on what i learned, it was already before his fame exploded.
@@SolaireOfToast MrBeast is a good person in my opinion, but getting fame like that before your brain is fully developed is what screwed him up, I don't know much about DogPack so I can't say anything about why he's the way he is
1 likeYes he lied thats shit. Mr Beast is still a horrible person. So in the end both are.
0 likes@@zonatedspore97acamashmm what to call out with feastables?
4 likesIs no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables?
10 likesI thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars???
Both of you are speaking fax 🔥
0 likesJust following the crowd, taking dogpack’s word, and making an uninformed video about how Mr.Beast is “finished”: ❌❌❌
34 likesCreating a video disproving his claims and understanding that both parties are not great people: ✅✅✅
From the beginning driving through the corn field by the office he seemed like skitzo. He worked there for a couple days (3 weeks is 15 days that wild) but made it out to be a career working with Mr Beast discovering everything bad Jimbo has ever done.
14 likesThis guy is the "Million dollar lawyer" from the memes
16 likesI implore everyone interested in this drama and this video to rewatch Dogpack’s original video. The best way to combat misinformation is to look at both sides. You will see that Soggy does not actually attack the main points or evidence that Dogpack has provided, rather he attacks Dogpack’s character to discredit and humiliate him. Soggy shows a very clear bias in his video towards Mr. Beast.
11 likesOnce again I implore you to not just take this guy’s word for what he says.
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@@fleacosmos66 I think Soggy focused on the 'warcrimes' bit because it's honestly the most damning claim about the solitary confinement challenge. If enticing people to do things they wouldn't otherwise do with money was unethical, most people's jobs could be considered a form of slavery. Weddle willingly participated in it and could withdraw at any time.
0 likesAs far as Jake Viking's credibility is concerned, Soggy only cites him to build a full picture along with other sources (i.e., Dustin made the warcrimes comment). Since Jake is the one making the claim that Jimmy and his Mom wanted an RSO on the team, he needs to provide evidence of that claim. Since he hasn't, and there is testimony against that being the case from Dustin, it's hard to take seriously.
@@canislupus3655 Thank you for asking politely.
0 likesFor example the “War crime” thing. Soggy seems more focused on how Dustin compared the solitary confinement to a war crime as a joke rather than to actually address what was actually happening, which was Jimmy was enticing the financially struggling Weddle with lots of money into participating in an activity that included sleeping with the light on, something that is completely illegal to do to prisoners of war.
While yes, Jimmy did not actually commit a war crime, as Weddle was not literally a prisoner of war and could leave whenever he wanted, Soggy acted that since he proved it was not a literal war crime, that he debunked the entire situation. A reminder that this war crime comment was a joke.
He also seems to insinuate that the whole “Weddle in solitary confinement” thing never actually happened despite using multiple sources that prove the complete opposite.
Another one is the Delaware thing, where Soggy brushes off Jake the Viking’s comment about how Jimmy knew he was a sex offender when hiring him, stating that Jake the Viking is not a trustworthy source (despite the fact that Jake the Viking is Delaware’s brother-in law) only for him to then use Jake the Viking as a source when using his words to confirm that Dustin was the employee who made the “war crime” joke.
Those are the first two points that Soggy talks about, in the case of the War Crime thing he does not actually address the accusation being made, and rather addresses the joke being made.
In the case of the Delaware situation he would rather talk about a rumor about Delaware’s nickname origin, rather than talk about the actual problem at hand which was that Jimmy knowingly employed a sex offender. And when Soggy does talk about it, he brushes it off and says he doesn’t believe it (without giving a reason why besides saying that Jake the Viking is untrustworthy, which he then contradicts later)
So while Soggy does indeed talk about the controversies in a very broad sense. He does so by framing it in a way that he can distract the viewer from the actual accusation being made by Dogpack.
I hope this helps, I apologize for the long comment
Do you have an example of a main point Dogpack had that Soggy didn't address?
0 likes@ Nothing beats telling people to look for themselves to find evidence in order to come to their own conclusions to just be met with someone asking for you to tell them what they should believe
0 likes@@Lego-MJCdon’t you think it’s a little weird that he would dm creators like Pyro to cover him being defended by Soggy? I’m not saying Dogpack isn’t in the wrong here but there’s definitely something shady going on
0 likes@@TheTrueBlueOnebro is still meat riding. Hop off bro
0 likesthank you bro, I've said this before and I'll say it again, soggy is literally biased against dogpack, and also he's changed the title, thumbnail and not only that but has had mrbeast comment and promote this video to other creators like DylanZitkus. Its so obvious that soggy made this video from a combination of being paid by beast and his bias against dogpack
3 likes@@Lego-MJClisten to Soggy’s tone and body language, he’s clearly trying to break down DogPack on a personal level
4 likesEvidence??
2 likesMan I wish I could just be a good person and figure out when I am being lied too, this video seems far more researched than Dogpack's video, yet I still bought his video. I liked to believe I am a thoughtful person who is able to smell garbage but clearly there is no way to know for sure
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@@AFrisbeeLadThe same can be said about dogpack's video because even this video said there was truth in dogpack's first video.
0 likes@napoopy yeah but this time there's actual substantial evidence collected by soggy
0 likes@@AFrisbeeLadbut everyone said the same thing about dogpack
0 likes@@AFrisbeeLadUntil it isn't, unfortunately
5 likesthis video is 100% not garbage, the video is well researched (as u mentioned) and probably doesnt have ang deceitful material
1 likeDogPack bout to hire an assassin.
33 likesi am waiting for someone to expose soggy now
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Im waiting for someone to expose the person who exposes the person who exposes the person who exposes the person who exposes the person who exposes the person who exposes the person who exposes soggy
3 likesHis Cereal is actually frozen
2 likes@@erikshields3724 brother its sarcasm chill out, literally who hurt you?
11 likesCope lil bro 😂😂
0 likes@@Wddlestrm SARCASM
1 likeWhy
2 likesy’all they can both suck. part of media literacy is understanding Dawson can be a liar and Mr. Beast can suck. we need to stop acting like because of this a guy backed by billionaires, scams children, treats employees badly, allegedly didn’t take care of people on Mr. Beast games, and still committed a war crime didn’t do anything wrong. they’re both bad.
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Dogpack is a bad journalist, Jimmy is a terrible person. Those are two very different things.
7 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
Now you must be exposed for the circle of life to continue.
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True
0 likesFacts🎉
2 likesPeople are saying Mr Beast is asking creators to cover this, which reeks to me of PR. Dogpack404 being a shady person does not invalidate valid points he has made by default. You present this like Mr Beast is an underdog who needs defending, when he is still thriving off kids. Maybe focus on the bigger problem first.
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@@shadowed69 well he doesn’t have to respond to anyone apart from the people that are actually directly involved and genuinely need their issues sorted, so it doesn’t matter what you want unfortunately for you and I , we are just randos on the internet
0 likes@@shadowed69the fact you even had to reply to tell them this lmao.
1 like@@ltreylukwesa A true, genuine response. He can't and won't do that though, because he's guilty of too many terrible things at this point to actually save his reputation.
3 likesSo if not PR what do you want supposed Mr Beast do then? What exactly do people want , I’m confused
0 likesThat's because this is PR. He straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
4 likesThat’s why I think he should make a second video that focuses on the VALID criticism of MrBeast so people don’t take this as a “MrBeast is innocent, I guess we were right the whole time”
0 likesMasterpiece
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Buddy U made apology video for not doing enough research and still didn't do enough research bruh. Make a part three
1 likebruh, don't be that hypocrite, you made a 1st video disclaiming dogpack, then you made another slandering mrBeast and apolgizing him, and now again on the other side??? please make a video with more investigation dude, your last one felt kinda biased against jimmy, though he needs to address some stuff tbh. just make and objective video
1 like'Ello
0 likesAbsolute cinema
0 likesSup guys
0 likesBlanko is actually here?
0 likesIts great to see you watching it as well
2 likesLmao, you are one of beasts worst haters, lmao, jew
0 likesAnd people said I was a glazer on your video because I pointed out facts...
7 likesyo what’s up
7 likesCan I be honest? None of these people should be deemed as "heroes"
4 likesJust becuase this person exposed this person, or that person got exposed for this.
It doesn't mean anything imo... ???
I rather just be neutral on everything until mrbeast himself says something
but other than that, I equally dislike everybody until then
Okay but the thing is not the story behind Delaware that was a scandal but the fact that he IS a RSO and that he WAS hired. The story behind it could have been a he said she said thing, who cares if the story is true or not? The fact that he is a RSO is the problem!
9 likesGarrett was frantic for a month and lost someone he was close to and took a huge financial hit because a recording of him was leaked? I mean I am totally with you that recording this unconsencually and then releasing it (voicechanger or not) is a wrong and fucked up thing to do, but this just seems like it was played up to debunk what he said.
'It wasn't a warcrime because Weddle wasn't a detainee'' But he was being held there against his will. It is at least deprivation of liberty and that is not okay. What kind of point are you trying to make? It''s okay to lock people up in a room that they don't want to be in and torture them mentally if you pay them afterwards?
''He took 50k of this 190k offer of goodwill from Jimmy feeling bad for Weddle even though Weddle slandered him'' Excuse me? He was the one that locked him up. If anything he was afraid that Weddle would sue. ''Goodwill''?! Jimmy even says in the message you show that the challenge clearly had an effect on him
The Illegal Lottery #3 Allegation I don't know. He could have a custom UI for all I know, the screens that you show could also be faked. I don't even know if the Way Back Machine is credible to use for debunking such claims. But they could also be true and it could be tailored. Why even go trough the process of making a fake UI when you could just screenshot a video and play the Lottery video over the original video you screenshotted, makes no sense to me. I for one will not think it is false or true unless I see more evidence on this.
Also the fact that Jimmy said this in a stream that was god knows how many hours long once and you bashed Weddle for saying a clip was AI directly after showing that clip because people will click off.
About the dog food for life thing: So AFTER the video got out and AFTER the allegations were made whre the user Sea-Special-4546 has confirmed they didn't get anything they are suddenly like ''Oh yeah it was my fault I missed it, it's all good now'' And you are not suspicious of that? They most likely got a lot of money for damage controll to further debunk Dogpacks claims.
He is deceiving with the Chocolate: Do you not see the 43g and the 60g next to the bars? Also the fact that Jimmy starts speaking about how he wants to make healthier food for America and only does business in Chocolate and fast food should say alot. Also ''Lunchly'' the mold aside those are not healthy meals. Yes Dogpack twists the numbers here and that is wrong but you have the information needed to form your own opinion here.
The car was digitaly lifted: So you agree that the footage has been tempered with and show a noticable example. Who is to say that the footage hasn't been tempered with further that is not noticable? Yes Dogpack should put more weight to his claims but they are tempering with footage wich you also just proved.
Then reverse image search of cp is just bad. I have nothing more to say about that and I will not try to justify it.
The ''Company Chat'': Yes it has been said before that this chat started as an NSFW Chat. So how the F does a NSFW Chat have trusted Talks about company stuff in it? Why is/was it used for company related stuff? Also the Whatsapp chat you show is literally titled ''Mr Beast Main''. Huh?
''He pushed his own agenda and framing mr beast: My dude. This is happening in a work related chat. Doesn't matter if it is marked that way, people of the company are in it and also talk about work related stuff, it even has the company brand name in the group name. By default the Boss of the company has to put a stop to this! How can you defend this? All participants of the chat at the time thought it was CP. Why did noone do anything against that?
Oh yes the posting of what one thought to be CP was ''just a joke''. So it's okay then?!
The FBI Tweet: Now you are just taking the piss. It is not about the tweet but the multiple videos they have made about the topic so far.
About the anime: I won't watch it but the anime is listed as a romantic comedy and if you read the plot synopsis of it, it talks alot about them expressing their feelings to each other. So make of that what you will. But showing one dude going ''aCtuALly ThATs noT whAt it'S aBouT'' won't prove or disprove anything.
The Thumbnails: Saying they are pedophiles by their own logic is also absoluetly stupid. The picture was blurred to being completely unrecongnisable (if still really tasteless and shouldnt have been done) but they were firstly, not shared in their uncensored form with collaegues, and secondly not being destributed like like ''Hey look at this cp, isn't she hot'' (I am paraphrasing here but you get the idea)
As many people here have stated before: Dogpack may not be a good guy. But a lot of the things he says should be considered. You are also debunking alot of the wrong points here as I have stated in this comment. Saying he has done some stupid video titles and thumbnails before doesn't debunk the things he said.
Also ''this is the opposite of intentionally making content for children'' Are you really trying to make the point that mr beast DOESN'T gear his content towards children? Really?
'Omg look at this old sweet guy, I got so upset'' Look. It is a wink. I don't know if I winked at that specific moment last year. I doubt he was approached by Mr Beast to say this but what you are doing here pisses me off even more. Why do you have to drive it up so much? You are doing the exact same thing here that you just critizied Dogpack for.
''He helped me financially'' Yeah with the price money. They didn't help him invest which was the claim made. Showing a text chat from someone (as you said yourself) doesn't prove or disprove anything. This whole video is just a he said she said situation. You come out here puffing your chest out but you said next to nothing of substance.
''Trust me bro I saw the property listing'' Sure you did buddy.
Also the big claim Dogpack made was that Mr Beast acted like Mack was ''just some guy'' and not an employee. You convenently glossed over that to talk about his living situation.
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@@muxie4877 Alot of it is either out of context, suspicion without proof or entirely contradictable inside the video itself lmao. Not in hell though am I trying to respond to that dump and getting a 3 page response in a youtube comment section.
2 likesmy guy, you just jumped through soo many hoops to try and rationalize dogpacks videos its crazy. Take some time, go for a walk and think it through xd. If the only way to defend someone is to argue semantics and deflect.
1 likethe funniest thing was about the fing cars: the ONLY thing they changed is a colour, there are legit videos of the jump uploaded to the fing yt channel of a guy who SPECIALIZES IN THAT and who designed and produced it for mr beast.
Oh and btw, if I understand the weddle situation its not that they paid him 50k out of 190k, they paid him 10k for every day he stayed there + after he started complaining they gave him an ADDITIONAL 50k. They did not lock him up against his will HE COULD HAVE LEFT AT ANY POINT of the video, that is by definition no tholding someone against his will.
And I will maybe touch on the point of unreleased/staged videos (circle and 24ppl for 1m dollars), when a production is big some stuff will obviously get canceled (why would he inform people about a video he is no longer releasing). As per the statements made by participants they got paid (in case of the 24ppl challange they even got double paid) so there is no one who was hurt. We also have context as to why the production was stopped: covid, which is a very valid reason imo.
thank god someone else sees through the completely un-nuanced bs
2 likesManipulative editing with pediepie: It was completely in context. The Pewds clip was about a giveaway where ''all you have to do is subscribe'' which is literally what is said right afterwards. It fits the context. I don't see this clip and go ''OMG Pewds hates Mr Beast''
3 likesThis is gold: Again accusing weddle to say it was AI AFTER playing the clip like the first 30 secons into the video. But NOW! 43 minutes into the video you say ,,oh guys i dunno mr beast might actually be not so great'' priceless
''It took one google search to not falsly accuse someone of child slavery'' NO! Just because you explained why they took down the banner or what group they joined it doesn't disprove the possibility of them still doing such acts. I have no idea if they did an I will not go say that they did but saying ''But they are part of this movement'' doesn't mean shit.
A guy that is about to get fired from a job asks/pleads about wanting to stay in said job? The very job that affords him his livelyhood? THE SCANDAL!
Also it's amazing how you have so many neat recordings of every conversation he had with people involved in his firing
I agree that Dogpack probaly earned ALOT of money trough his videos, but the videos themself are not monetized. His subscribers are worthless if he doesn't make monetized work on his channel. One could also spin the collabs with bigger creators to say that he did it to reach more people with ''THE TRUTH'' Which I think is bullshit. Of course he saw an opportunity to earn from this. But I think earning money from making content is not wrong, spinning it to seem beneveolent is.
''Have you thought about the second launch'' Yeah but that is not what it was about was it. It was about the first launch. The second launch could be working completely different, at a different time etc. The claim made was about the first launch. The second launch in the document shown also doesn't state in the slightest that the second rocket is in association with Mr Beast.
Also also: The rocket crashed did it not? His point stands. The video was that of a rocket exploding. Was there footage of the mr beast rocket exploding? I don't care if A porsche or a lada crashes. The contents got destroyed and people didn't get what they paid for.
Thesy filled in for people who were sick. Can also easily be a lie. One of the employees did a lot of ''Damage control'' on Twitter when the first video was released and alot of it was bullshit. Also they should have said that some contestants are filling in. They were at least being manipulative by saying it's subscribers only.
Again it is completely plausible that the filling in for sick people statement is true and I will not further try to make this point valid unless Dogpack brings forth more evidence.
The valve turning situation: ''They did it for safety'' yes but the valves were faked, as Dogpack stated with the turning of the valves even when they should be completely turned since the water drained, the contestant still was able to keep turning. Again, they were being manipulative.
The raft: Again, maniupulation, they said they were there the whole time. They weren't. Why not add a short clip like ''Unfortunatly we had to leave the raft for an hour since there was a lightning storm''. They cut also seems alot longer than an hour. The video of the Barge also doesn't show any sort of storm or the Contestants being on this boat. It could just be a video of a production boat. Also we only see the top. There could very well be comfortable sleeping areas below deck and the contestants could have very well used said beds.
The 100 Day in confinement challange: Yes it is okay that they are not strangers, it is however wrong that they make it SEEM like they are Strangers. Again, manipulation
The People in the Circle video: Why didn't Mr Beast make an announcement that the video was cancled? In fact where is ANY response to the whole allegation on Mr beasts side? ( I retract this but will leave it in since I just saw the Twitter post you included in this video)
''He broke his NDA'' hurdur he is not trustworthy. You say to a statement where he even said ''Allledgedly they had people remote controlling the valves. Which if you think about it, of course they did. The evidence to it is for one in the video itself and as you said yourself neccesary for saftey reasons.
The signature: Call him stupid all you want but if I pay for a t-shirt signed by my favourite youtuber I would also like to have it signed by said youtuber and not one of his employeed. Imagine you have a signed Football from Tom Brady but now you find out it was signed by Mike the Janitor (Tom Brady said it's okay). I think this will devalue the Product a lot.
The Lottery: Is again being manipulativ. Putting it in the description you actually have to open and read is one thing. Saying ''Buy a shirt if you want x reward'' is another. It is also again something you have thrown shade at Weddle/Dogpack in this video before
''No doesn't mean no is taken out of context'' I'm sorry but how out of touch do you have to be to not see the problrm with putting that sentence in an official job education document for the company
So the censored person in the interview actually confirmes that the whole was faked to some degree, which again proves the point made by dogpack and further underlines the fact that Mr Beast is manipulating his footage
The Eye surgery claim: Okay so do you think that the company that made the claim that they didn't pay for it didn't try to contact Mr. Beast? Doesn't it seem odd that they only make the missing payment after someone made a controversial video about it, that gathered alot of attention to the topic? It does to me.
''We want to make the videos to appeal to an older audience'' yet they sell only chocolate and lunch packs, they use clickbaity titles and thumbnails, they lie about the conent of their videos (for example the ''abandoned'' city). ''We have to make the videos so a literal 1 year old can understand them'' So they DO cater their videos to children.
I am glad that you chose to report about the Lottery 1. It would have been an easy thing for you to not include it. Aswell as with the Coffeezilla Video, as it turns out, it was with the Brand name but not with Jimmy himself. One can believe that or not but it seems like Jimmy either has no clue what happens in his company or he does and he uses it for his benefit
I feel like there were alot of things that you were overly dramatic on and alot of stuff just seems like you pulled it out of your ass. Again Dogpack may not be a goodhearted individual but he said alot of things that stil hold up in my opinion.
This video was so well put together. Long time viewer, massive respect, curious to see what happens next
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oh look a brainrot shorts creator
0 likes@@animalmace tf you doing here lmao
2 likespegasus just got so much content omg
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@@rob-pi7ge it just got worse, it's not over, the finale, the allegations are insane, New news just dropped
0 likes@@___-000 He’s over, it’s over, finally over, he’s done, he is done, it’s done, finally done, he’s finished, it’s finished, the finale, and finally finished haha 😂🙄
0 likesFr@@yesminsalima4924
0 likes@@AmirHassan-nw2hkit's over, it's finally done, the end, he's finished, it got worse, he's done, exposed, he's over
2 likesBut he win in the end
3 likesPegasus sucks
2 likesLet's be real, no matter who is right between Mrbeast or Dogpack—Pegasus is the real winner 💀
3 likesPegasus is part of the problem ffs
9 likesI won't be surprised if he makes a 180 just like when the dogpack video first dropped
8 likesImagine someone like Pegasus who can make a half an hour rant over an empty stomach with no new content whatsoever. He will milk Soggy for two years.
18 likesIndustry plant ahhhhhhh video
7 likesNumber 1 DogPack404 hater (I dont support either sides until more evidence is out)
17 likesi cant believe mr beast would just sit silent while dogpack ran rampant with defamation, either he was cooking up the best debunking video yet or he just truly didnt gaf
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i wouldn’t gaf i have millions of subs lol
0 likes@@PlatinumSceptile I’d have to argue that it looks he did get it resolved for him thanks to guys like Nicholas and Soggy Cereal. So now he should thank them and be able to speak out on the mistakes he made and pay it all off. And though I understand your second point, that doesn't really help him and he'll have to take an L on that one. And finally, I hope you understand by him just mainly going about it, his numbers are down now. So yay you got money, but he just looks like a desperate idiot that wants us to forget it all after that tweet he made with a company he hired.
0 likesYou're making a mistake with how you're treating MrBeast here. "MrBeast" hasn't been the type of channel that can just go off and make an apology video or a debunking video at any time. "MrBeast" is a production company. As a company, it has to run checks and investigations. It can't just say "we didn't do that, here's proof". They won't put out a debunking video ever, because doing so would be a deviation from the company's working model and likely would risk losing massive profit because of it.
1 likeSide note: this is why DanTDM's statement of "What have youtubers become" is complete BS. These aren't "youtubers" they're producers. They're the heads of companies. They aren't a one or two person operation in a basement.
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0 likesfor the first point, this isnt his first controversy, but this is the first controversy that isnt being resolved on its own. infact the only controversy he actually publically replied to was ava tyson. in every other controversy, except of course the current ones, the majority was taking his side so he had no reason to. so this is a first of this kind of controversy for him.
for the other point about him releasing videos despite the controversy, mrbeast isnt just one guy. its a company. its alot of people jobs. and those people have to be paid somehow. if he just stops posting videos, alot of people besides him will also get affected. its a lose/lose situation for him. either he doesnt upload videos and risk losing respect of his employees and friends or he keeps uploading regardless.
id also further like to add, the entire company of mrbeast is in support of jimmy because they know the truth. theyre the small group that actually know exactly whats happening. and while they want him to speak up, they dont probably dont want him to pause his income flow.
@@PlatinumSceptile It's not his first time facing controversy. And he's been around this space and knows youtube very well. What people respect nowadays are someone who stands up for themselves not people who speak for them. The fact he's been acting robotic and just releasing videos like it isn't a big deal is quite a problem.
0 likes@@theahmedbhatti1 would you try to stand up for yourself if theres crazy allegations about you being a normal criminal, war criminal, fraud, and pdf among many other things? anyone in that situation would rather get some professionals to do the talking out of fear. mrbeast isnt a movie character who's character arc is learning bravery or whatever. mrbeast is human. humans feel fear. its in our instincts. and its there because in most situations being afraid keeps you safer.
0 likes@@PlatinumSceptile Well the whole backlash problem has been that he’s been hiding behind a company and representative statements and not standing up for himself and looking like a genuine person. He’s just lucky that Dawson is reactive instead of actually factual.
0 likesmrbeast isnt innocent lmao
1 like@@theahmedbhatti1 to put it simply, you can falsely incriminate yourself by saying stuff that can be interperated in a way which makes you seem incriminating. by not saying anything, like he was asked my the investigating company, he prevented the possibility of him accidentally adding more fuel to the burning allegation fire but saying something that was wording slightly wrong.
0 likesdoesn’t need to respond to blatant lies obviously
7 likesHe did say he will post a response . The allegations are against the company , it will take time .
2 likes@@ItsaDonut and its actually work with the lunchily drama where logan and ksi get clown for responding in a dumb way
0 likesmrbeast could retire for 500 years if he really wanted to
0 likesHe won't put it on his main champion because most of his subscribers are kids so yeah I don't think we getting that debunk video
2 likesSometimes, silence is the best answer.
22 likesHe's not a saint, and he made some bad decisions, but not responding to Dogpack wasn't one of them
well to be fair, dogpack forcing soggy to make a video is probably what lead to him getting cooked like this
4 likesMost of his audience is just kids so the videos didn't really affect him but it made more sense to just stay quiet and pump out videos and products.
8 likesSome people think he's probably going to sue Dogpack but its more likely he just moves on since he will be 'mostly vindicated' in the eyes of big YT creators and regular people.
@@leontriestoart And he decides to just post the statement and not really say much himself after and we got a lot more evidence and explanation from what would be considered a small youtuber today. Good that Dogpack was exposed since he lied about what he presented, but there's still something fishy going on with Mr.Beast and he needs to clear it up.
17 likesIt's cuz the company he hired to investigate the company asked him to refrain from making public statements till the investigation was over
71 likesCan we get a fat ahh round of applause for the amount of research and outreach this man does??
267 likesHe had to be absolutely STEWING once he saw things not lining up. And he seems to LOVE a deep dive and just kept digging up more and more and then made sure he got outside perspectives and presented it with more journalistic integrity than most actual journalists when it comes to stories these big.
Some of that guys claims were a little...weird but I was willing to believe them initially because the one video I saw seemed moderately plausible. It's also really nice to know that they ARE mindful of safety on these sets because my god the amount of injuries that would have been buried if they didn't would bankrupt him.
I take everything with a grain of salt and I don't want to be someone who says they aren't judgemental but then only assumes the worst of people. I don't have proof of someone's personal character either way until I meet them. I'm still majorly critical of Jimmy in general as a massive attention seeking capitalist but I'm not about to get panini pressed over some lies told by someone with a compulsion disorder.
But seriously y'all this research and interviewing style is impeccable.
Like I said in my other comment: You don't have to make stuff up to dislike Jimmy or his team. He is ultimately a stranger and a brand. I still think he huffs his own farts to energize himself in the morning but like... I don't know that man. I just have a vague impression of him based on what he presents. And what he presents is a brand. I absolutely believe that there are problems within this company but the fact that I am so relieved to have sourced confirmation that most of the allegations are total bs. Not because I care about Jimmy or companies. But because that company is full of people who have jobs they love.
So if Soggy is actually down here reading these: I sincerely appreciate the amount of work you to do not only prove your point but that you backtracked and corrected previous statements up to the point of flying all the way to freaking North America and having literal interviews with people. Top tier work. Love your channel.
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0 likes@@bootsycollinsno1fanWell let’s hope it doesn’t turn into a diss track situation. That gets nauseating too quickly.
5 likesi admire soggy so much, he's genuinely my most trusted youtuber because you can just see the love and hardwork he puts into his videos, hard find nowadays
12 likesSpreading fake "positve" mr beast propoganda, funny how mrbeast cant comment on L I T E R A L L Y anything except Lunchly criticism from dantdm and this video. Weirddd...
4 likeswatch pegasus make 30 videos about one section of this video
17 likesbro cooked.Knew it was over when he made a 1.3 hr video 💀
42 likesThe Ian impression is crazy accurate I love it, it's official content cop quality :D
19 likessome people re getting soggy's narrative as "mr beast = good good, dogpack = bad bad" while in reality it's more about eliing people not to believe dogpack blindly and mr beast has done some shite thigns which he should be called out for and give answers to.
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That is true, but what this video has ultimately done was provide MrBeast a cover to hide behind instead of properly taking accountability
1 likeSo this is Mr Beasts response. Took him a while. Smart of him to put it through a third party to make it look more independent and trust-worthy.
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@@Sachii-o2dthe guy literally says to go check out another YouTuber who posted a video about the crypto scam. Cause he doesn’t know fuck all about crypto
0 likes@@Ahmad-z3o3zThe crypto one is another new allegation. There's need to be another video responding to that!
6 likesI know right watch 1:24:20 it was a mistake lmao Mr beast flown him half way across the planet for a group of Mr beast CURRENT EMPLOIES to talk trash about the guy who exposed them funny enough nobody said shit about the crypto scam other than that shallow mr beast didn't do it and trying to frame a third party. I wonder why Saggy didn't start with this part lmao. Also the youtube UI changes alot it was like that three mounths ago when dogpack404 made his video. Funny enough Mr beast always comment on the video he sponsored/colaborated with
5 likesyou might be the $1,000,000 lawyer we were talking about
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@@slash4660Yeah, it just seems like that because Mr.Beast is capitalizing off of this video, by commenting and telling other YouTubers to react to it. For reference, watch Dylan Zitkus’s new video, where Mr.Beast tells him to watch this video.
0 likes@@slash4660 very aware, im just noting how he researched and debunked these accusations way quicker than jimmy or his legal team
0 likesHe literally critises Mr beast for bad things he actually did. He doesn't call him a saint. He's just exposing the lies dog pack 404 made.
6 likesBro just turns around and says,
41 likesFine, I'll do it myself.
I don’t even know what to believe anymore. What’s next, someone disproving everything that Soggy disproved? Who even knows at this point.. I know Soggy made a solid video, but that’s what we all thought about DogPack’s video when it came out…
3 likesgame theory: dogpack404 is camera stalling mrbeast in 50/20 mode by not releasing the final video
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I understood this reference
1 likeGood comment
1 likeI always thought some of dogpack's claims were a bit of a stretch but the insane amount of of allegations he put out and the repetition of those everywhere - having a source I already trust go over the situation in a way that is unbiased towards or against Mr Beast is really great and gathering actual evidence and researching into the little things shows commitment. Good job.
16 likesBro don't be that guy with that warcrimes bit. It wasn't a warcrime, anyone who doesn't know that isn't smart enough to use google. You didn't need to harp on about it like it was another smoking gun, if he joked or he was serious, it doesn't change the story at all. The man was being kept awake with light, he wasn't happy about it, they thought they were entitled to keep him up with light since they were paying him. You either think you can punch someone in the face then pay them, or you don't, it's not a big deal.
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He could have left what happened doesn't fit that description.
0 likes@@matt38148 I'll have to look up what you're refering too, as far as i knew it was mentioned, i didn't know it was pressed like that
0 likesDogpack and Jake weddle both ran with the war crime seriously. Soggy outling it being a joke demostrates Dogpack malicious agenda, they're are not really talking about the war crime when they talk of the war crime bit actually how calculating and exgerating Dogpack is, to go aganist his creditability.
3 likesContent cop intro is soooo nostalgic god idubbbz stuck gold back then with that format
3 likesHere comes hundred of kids commenting “get off mrbeast meat” or “he paid you to do this”
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fr i hate that everybody that somewhat foesnt show negativity towards mr beast is just called meat riding or paid
0 likesImagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.
0 likesHow he know
1 likeThings i think were missing from this are:
84 likes- shadman picture on the wall confirming jimmy knew
- rules in the lottery livestream were unclear jimmy said stuff like order in next 5 minutes to win and 7 minutes later hed say next 1 minute instead
- mack winning in videos with 1 second on the clock seems disingenious
but these are just 3 things from dogpacks video that werent mentioned while most of it was disproven so i still like the video overall.
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the beast games, team sea and crypto stuff too
0 likes@@ProGamer-jd4dzthe artist dosent need to be known to know youre friend having borderline c-p framed on his wall is a problem
2 likesHe meant the people against mrbeast would@@BuffaIowings16
0 likesShad wasnt well known at that time
0 likes@@paracetamol9116 But he didn’t your comment makes no sense
0 likes@@BuffaIowings16these kind of people would
0 likes@@themartianbuggy3171I mean it’s weird but you wouldn’t get rid of your best friend for that
5 likesi feel like with the mack part he purposely slows down in order to make it seem closer. like if you can run 50 seconds 400m race. but you are given 60 seconds to run it. it would be "better for the video" if you did it in 59 seconds. you would try to run a bit slower in order to reach 59 sec. now he might of agreed to this before the video shoot my mrbeast or his team. also becuase it was possible he would be in several videos with several chances to make a lot of money.
2 likes@@crosheljarron9982 except it is...
0 likes@@Karmanara correct, genius, but I think he is trying to say that Jimmy knew that Chris was a degen and still kept him on his crew.
31 likeshaving a shadman picture when you're friends with the guy who used it doesn't mean YOU are a shadman supporter
6 likes@@crosheljarron9982so ignore the signs that he may be a degenerate? yeah seems about what he did up till now
0 likesThe shadman picture is as irrelevant as possible so it doesn't matter.
6 likes'I Worked For Dogpack404, He's A Fraud' coming soon
12 likesi dont know why people believe youtubers like dogpack instead of doing there own reasearch are we seriously that dumb ?are we that naive to trust anyone?
3 likesCan’t wait for MorePegasus to switch sides for views
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Dogpack404 is finished
4 likesThe end
Haha even the thumbnail title fakeout. You nailed the content cop.
18 likesSoggy cleaning up YouTuber drama since 2023
40 likesWar Crime? Bro I went to prison for drugs in my youth and got in a fight and was sent to Administrative Segregation. The lights stay on 24 hours a day, because using light doesn't actually prevent you from sleeping. btw I have been out of prison for 13 years and sober for 9. I WISH someone would pay me that much money a day to live in a box with the lights on all the time. Because I did it for 45 days in prison for free.
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I mean yours is still bad. Even if they gave you money for that it would still be horrible enough to not make it worth it as a challenge
0 likesWhile there is no outright federal law stating that leaving the lights on in administrative segregation is illegal, it can be considered a form of cruel and unusual punishment under the Eighth Amendment if done continuously and without justification, depending on the circumstances and jurisdiction; meaning that an inmate could potentially file a lawsuit against a prison if they believe the constant light exposure is causing them undue harm. - From Google.
0 likesNotice the whole part about without justification? Well In prison, Guards have to be able to see your face at all times. Since they aren't allowed to enter an Ad Seg cell without cuffing you, that means they have to leave the lights on. Notice at the end how it says if it causes undue harm? Leaving the lights on is much more preferable than them waking me up every few hours for count by having to turn them on and that sudden light shocking me awake every hour or two, especially since I only had a soft mat to sleep on for 8 hours a night, I wouldn't want to lose a minute of those 8 hours to the lights suddenly blinding me.
Plus, It's easier to sleep with the lights on constantly than having them turn on and off every hour or two. Also, any jail you will go to will never have complete darkness every single cell I have ever been in has had at least a night light that stays on all night, due to having to be able to see the inmate's face because they have to count you on a regular basis. Nah, the lights being on isn't what was torture. How freezing cold they kept it and them taking my Sleeping Mat from me every morning at 4am and not giving it back until 8pm is what was torture. That said, I wasn't in day camp, I was in prison and worse than that I was in the Administrative Segregation block for fighting and tobacco (I forgot that's why it was 45 days I got 15 extra for failing a urinalysis for tobacco.)
you can sue for that. its still a human rights viloation and considered a form of torture if you dont do it willingly. light does actally mess up your cercadaim rythmn. if you have it on for 24 hours a day it can cause such sever sleep depvataion you can die. etheir that or you're just bulit diffrent.
0 likesGuess freaking what!? I checked dog packs channel and he actually deleted the whole Mr.Beasts secret ceo video.
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@@SuperFilmregisseur when you unlist a video, it wont be recommended to anyone and those who have to link to that video can only see it
1 likeDogPack deleted / unlisted the video days before Soggy's video came out.
1 likeThat makes sense, that video was not researched as much as the other ones, and also turned out to be wrong.
2 likesYeah my aplogises I commented that before I got to that point
0 likesYou guys realize soggy said this in the video right
2 likesIt means that you cannot access the video through his channel but you can if you have the URL.
1 like@@IdentityCRISISswag what does unlisted mean
0 likesSorry my mistake.
0 likesNo it doesn’t that’s exact what I’m saying, that dog pack is trying to silence things
2 likes@@erikshields3724what is unlisted😭
0 likes@It does change something you are wrong it wasn’t deleted rather unlisted.
16 likes@@erikshields3724Ok dude, does that change anything? It's basically the same intention though. He is trying to hide away that video by unlisting it.
7 likesWrong he didn't delete it he unlisted it I still have the video saved as it wasn't deleted only unlisted your kind a idiot lol.
1 likeThis year is fucking insane. Also loved this video soggy
60 likespeople should watch the whole video before commenting blatant bs
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True
0 likesThis
0 likesI can not begin to explain the joy in my face from that content cop intro, Jesus Christ what a throwback
5 likes2016 is truly back we even got a content cop episode 🥹
35 likesMrbeast recommending this video instead of apologizing proves he still did wrong things.
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I found his Comment in DingoBroLug video "MrBeast Is Innocent"
0 likesWdym apolagizing his allegations are still not true i dont even like mrbeast anymore i stopped watching him due to his allegations.
1 like@@KemRoddylan zitkus
1 likeWhere did he "recommend this video"?
1 likeEveryone has
6 likesIt's so poetic that a guy with the number 404 in his username ended up making so many errors
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@@droketheroper well he did state that he was advised by lawers not to make a statment. that could have resulted in situations becoming worse for him, so in fact it was moreso smart than cowardnice
0 likesAnd someone named Beast is being a huge coward. Symmetry
1 likeIntentional errors
2 likesTHOSE are the types of videos i was waiting for
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although i would divide mrbeasts opposition and stop rational thinking completely
1 likecontributing a bit to a "divide and conquer" ahh stategy
(i didnt watch the video)
If he stopped after the first video, he'd have achieved what he wanted. He got too cocky
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Quote of the year🙌@@hellboy9458
0 likesFame got to his head, he flew too close to the sun, and got cooked.
33 likesThe greatest opposition to DogPack404 is DogPack404 himself lol
14 likesMisinformation is our worse enemy.
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It truly is, you can just claim about everything on the internet and people will instantly believe it and it will absolutely stain your name for a very long time
0 likesBest*
0 likesJust be thankful it wasn't malinformation where its malicious to the point that it's physically harming someone
0 likesI watched the whole video and there still one thing that really grosses me out but how you may have unintentionally may have painted Jake as malicious, you didn’t even go over his claims about the work place conditions he was placed in, when he was selected to be a contestant in the 100 day challenge.
4 likeshe talked about how he couldn’t sleep because they had the lights on 24/7 on set, how the room smelled of fresh paint, the hot tub not having a proper filtration system so it would smell, another thing that made it impossible for him to sleep was how extremely noisy the ice cream machine was, not only that but he was pretty much pressured to stay there, not just for content but because he needed money.
His friend too gives icky vibes… trying to make Jake seem like he was overreacting over a joke and how it was outside factors that broke Jake... Instead of actually investigating the claims that jimmy may have had a shitty production set, he says he doesn’t want to deny what he went through but he just tried to undermined the trauma he went through.. again ever other point I do see some credit abilities but you didn’t even go over the toxic work place environment that was also happening on beast games (since that is what started everything)
MrBeast just needs to respond bruh 💀
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He tweeted smth the other day about the investigation done on his company
0 likes@EvaFuji
0 likesDo you ever trust what came out of dogpack mouth? To me, Dogpack404 is a giant incompetents, uncooperative, insubordinate, unempathetic, unanalytical individual who lies to millions of people, with evidences that are bare bones or just completely false with zero to none evidences to support his clames.
So yes. Dogpack404 is a massive liar that should be called out for his giant manipulative anties.
@@MonarchSCMC by revealing dogpack is a liar ? huh?
0 likes@@Oscar92839 Perhaps he deleted it, after he got backlash for it.
0 likesCan’t find the comment anymore
0 likes@@varietybaconHe seems to be promoting this video heavily, so think of this as an indirect Mr.Beast response.
2 likeshe'd rather respond to his lunchable clone
0 likesHe had a lawyer looking over his company to make sure there arent problems
1 like@@Zero-v9vv not that he is scared, but staying silent and investigating againt the competition silently is his move.
1 like@ no it didn’t he had already responded by the time this comment was made
0 likes@@antonjrgaborno wait he responded?
1 like@@MonarchSCMC yeah i belive thats pretty accreate along with a active internal investigation accruing in his company, thus he really shouldn't be talking now but hopefully soon
0 likesThis aged like milk
1 like@@MonarchSCMChe did he hired people to investigate himself
1 likeWasn't is this going to court or something 🤨
1 like@Zero-v9vv
27 likesI don't think that Jimmy is scared, but instead making a proper response against Dogpack aligations while collecting evidence to support him from these aligations. or mybe he thinks that response to the situation would probably make it worse for him.
I got the same question also
1 likeyeah why is he so scared?
13 likesYeah I'm confused why he's not debunking DogPack404 lies 🤔
32 likesa little suspicious that they conveniently recorded him getting fired by the coo and him begging to not get fired.
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@@sammmmmmmmmmy thats the thing, what master plan could they have with that? not much right? so it wouldn't be too far-fetched for it to be made up by ai. again we don't know whos lying and whos not, all we know is both sides could be manipulating us so take everything with a grain of salt until further notice
0 likesHow can you be sussed when the evidence shows he’s been wanting this job for awhile, ofc he would beg…like what master plan would they have of him with that…?
1 likeUsually companies have to record all things like that, or rather all things like that are already being recorded.
10 likesforgot to mention illegal gambling on those feastables 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Hop off the meat already and do some research on the name of crist. Feastable is literally addressed in the video and it's not gambling... Go search the description of gambling for once ffs
0 likesIt's not illegal. Infact matpat made a video years ago explaining how it wasn't illegal..
2 likes@@gewnurb Didn't other brands do the same thing, like attaching a QR code to scan for a chance to win a prize or a bottle cap or something like that? I don't know the different between them and feastables at all.
1 likeforgot to mention, it's not illegal, and it's not gambling, you're getting your damn chocolate, the "prizes" are simply extra
2 likesHyperfixating
1 likeAll I want to know is, if this guy was able to debunk Dogpack404 so easily, why didn't Mr Beast do it sooner?
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@@LongGone2 I really, unfortunately, don't have the time to explain each and every unnecessary and defamatory nitpick he makes. One example is the way he hyperbolizes Jake Weddle comparing himself to r*** victims, except in the very screenshot he shows during that segment, you can see that Jake was speaking for all the victims/contestants of Beast/Beast games, and clearly just using the comparison as a way to say "please don't victim blame". Still, Soggy uses a common tactic implemented in politics to insinuate something that Jake never said (that being that he suffered as much as r*** victims).
0 likesThe RSO, Delaware, as I said before, was a major point in this video. Jake the Viking, his son in law, already admitted that Beast knew he was an RSO when hiring him. That info, which was revealed months ago, directly contradicts the narrative Soggy is trying to paint about Mr. Beast not knowing anything about Delaware being an RSO when hiring him. Being the trustworthy investigative journalist that Soggy is obviously trying to be, there's no way he would have missed that major detail.
Coffeezilla's video specifically does not make any hard allegations towards Mr. Beast, giving him a possible out in that his fund made those decisions and not he himself. Coffeezilla goes over this in his video. As such, it is a reasonably safe video to link to increase your credibility and cement the fact that you're not a "Mr. Beast glazer", when in reality the video does not commit to a hard stance that Beast couldn't make a sound argument against. To be clear, I think Coffeezilla's video is exceptional, and a gold standard for unbiased investigative journalism. Which is why it is abundantly clear to me that this video is not that.
@@shadowed69 But said points do matter. The main point of the video was NOT to just credit Mr.Beast and keep him into the limelight nor say he is a saint which he practically says himself, its mainly to remove all the un-credible accusations DOGPACK404 has been adding to the EXISTING allegations.
1 likeAlso, for a video thats PAID by mr.beast, its weird add the end of the video or later down the video, he talks about coffezilla investigating mrbeast himself and his crypto stuff and suggets the viewer (us) to interact and watch it outselves. WHICH DIRECTLY DISCREDITS MR.BEAST. Wouldn't a paid person cut that out? no. Why? Because he is not payed nor is he trying to make Mr.Beast an entirely good person with this video. And im assumnig you watched it right? Please don't tell me you are doing this without all information please..
Bringing up stuff thats already obvious and thats been known BEFORE this video came out literally changes nothing about what the core point of this video was for. And there is no point to state the obvious, BECAUSE IT IS OBVIOUS. him not saying "mr.beast knew about it all along" like every other drama covering (and possibly) slop is equivalent to me not telling you the grass is green. im not going to tell you that, because you know. I know. WE ALL KNOW. So why should I say the obvious?
Also, calling out someones lies is not exactly 15 minutes long. he cant just say "he lied about this!" he needs to get all evidence needed to make that claim therefore making the video even longer. Add that with multiple interviews, and ofc its not going to be 15 minutes. we need the context to make our own opinion.
It just sounds to me you are saying stuff for the sake of saying it either without context, maybe from ignorance or you genuinely believe thats the case.
@@vladimirkhazinski3725 I know dude, it's crazy. And I think my comments are started to be deleted now too. Yikes.
0 likesGod please don't let corruption win.
@@LongGone2 Except he focuses extremely hard on small points that don't matter, while re-writing critical narratives in Mr. Beast's favor. If this video was just focused on concise, legitmate criticisms of Dogpack, it could have been 15 minutes long.
0 likesNo mention of Beast knowing about Ava Kris Tyson's predatory behavior btw.
@@vladimirkhazinski3725 or its the fact that mrbeast is under other allegations that are true.
2 likesThe main point of the video WASN'T to just defend Mr.Beast as he states himself. Mr.Beast still has done things and he knows that but the main point of the video was to disprove the FALSE claims dogpack404 was making because he had a spotlight.
NOT to just get paid by Mr.Beast. Even he knows some people would say that when he did not wanna be called an "A1 Mr.Beast Glazer" for looking at both ends of the drama.
This video is mrbeasts response. I cant believe no ones seeing through this. Its clear mrbeast himself will never make a video about it to give it publicity. This guy would never have access to mrbeast employees for this unless mrbeast himself put them up to it.
2 likesBecause this is Mr. Beast. He was paid. Why do you think he's the first guy that's been able to interview current Mr. Beast employees?
2 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
go ask mrbeast
1 likeThis is the Battle of Stalingrad of youtube. This is truly the turning point.
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@@Panzermanzerprob Dogpack, cuz they were first successful, then it went a bit crazy, then it went to crap
1 likeWho was the sixth army in this case?
1 likeI knew dogpacks video was bad, but i had no idea it was THIS bad lmfao
17 likesHow were you able to get interviews with so many MrBeast employees without any of them violating their NDA or risking their jobs?
24 likesAlso, just because Jake Weddle signed up to do the challenge doesn’t mean that any of what MrBeast did was right or ok. Nor does it mean Jake asked or deserved to suffer with his mental and physical health during or after the fact.
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@@BarneyisJehova The point is the people in this video are supportive of MrBeast. While it's clear that something is off with Dogpack404, it also seems off that Soggy had such easy access to people within MrBeast. This implys MrBeast knew this video was coming out and had something to gain even if the video was made to sound "neutral". I mean let's face it, how many are truly going to stick around until the end of a 1 hour video which is where the majority of the criticism against MrBeast is.
1 likeI'm just saying that just because Dogpack404 isn't as trustworthy as he made himself out to be doesn't mean we should automatically trust this creator, nor MrBeast.
If everything that has come out in the last few months is untrue then MrBeast should sue. But he won't because then search and discovery will need to be done. I'd like to be proven wrong, I really would. But there’s no way that this completely exonerated MrBeast. Some of the claims around Tyson (like Beast having the picture on the wall after Tyson left the apartment), BeastGames and working with Tony's (who have been taken off the slave-free list), thr crypto scam, lunchly, etc are still there.
So yeah, while Dogpack isn't to be trusted, he did help to open the door to other actual legitimate claims. Perhaps we should just stop putting celebs on a pedestal and start looking at them with a more critical eye.
@@sophiemoconnell Wouldn’t it be more suspicious if he DID sue them? He really only has 2 choices here
0 likes@@BarneyisJehova You've pretty much answered the reason why I'm suspicious.
2 likesWhat are you actually suspicious about?
0 likesNDAs aren’t automatic sue buttons, why would Jimmy sue someone using inside information to help him?
@oldwellenthusiast8750 this is usually just a tactic MrBeast does a lot throughout his challenges to make it more interesting. Again, I still feel like there should be more clear communication between Jake and MrBeast, and the fact the guy compared himself to SA victims doesn't help his case at all
2 likes@@naganut9718 earlier comment was too rude so i deleted it. i think the jake stuff was real, considering mr beast directly apologized to him and tried to make it right and multiple employees were able to corroborate it, and the fact that every issue jake had they fixed for the next contestants. i think though it's a matter of pressure and unequal power dynamics. from what was said in the video he was talked into staying longer, waving the money in his face, even though he clearly wanted to get out. this is a mr beast defence video remember trying to paint him in the best light possible and still couldn't explain away jake's experience, whilst there's a lot of solid rebuttal to dogpack's video this is probably a time that mr beast really did screw up.
4 likes@@oldwellenthusiast8750the question was why did they kept him a day longer? I feel like there's a reason as to why
0 likes@@sophiemoconnellyou can literally say this about every MrBeadt challenge, and I don't think it's a good argument
0 likes@@Queef_Storm Have you every struggled for money? It's coercion. It's obvious who had the power in this situation, and it wasn't Jake.
11 likesJake could have walked out whenever he wanted. No one was forcing him to do anything. And eventually he did leave. The next solitary confinement videos Jimmy did had the contestants last the full 100 days easily. Jake is just a wimp.
3 likeshe also got a mr beast comment, suspicious
11 likesI dont know why people think Rosanna was "manipulated". She is a grown woman and should know much better than she did being that she was on a higher level in the industry and should have much better PR training. She is just another person who saw an opportunity and jumped on it before doing any kind of research beforehand. She wasn't manipulated, she was wrong. I still have no clue why she got into this drama on the level that she did. So out of character for her and eventually it'll backfire.
4 likesThis changes everything
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Hawktuahlicious
0 likesNot really, just shows people will change their view when a video is longer then 10 minutes and a lot of self drawn conclusions disguised as facts. If you believed Dogpack or Soggy 100% then you're a fool.
8 likes“Everything is different now”
0 likes@@The_Apex_Of_Predators I watched the intro, left a comment and i’m 35 mins in so far as Im watching in 1.5x speed
11 likesPlot twist
0 likesI'm sure you watched the whole video that is an hour and 20 minutes long after just the 40 minutes it was posted 🤔
2 likesGood thing life will go on as usual
11 likesI love how the internet IMMEDIATELY goes against someone when baseless accusations are made, people act like EVERYTHING people say that’s bad is true.
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I’d bet my life savings 99% of them are high school age and younger and have only just graduated from Roblox roleplay videos and are new to false allegations being made because that sh t has been happening for years now
1 likewhat’s even worse is that the shit adrox discovered and the discord leaks are being completely ignored
1 likeDog pack is finished, Dog pack is over, Dog pack is done
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@@auritro3903Though to be honest, he’s probably the best guy in this situation, just making money off of other people’s drama.
0 likesDog pack finally responded, dog pack's empire is crumbling, dog pack hit new low, dog pack is officialy cancelled, etc etc
3 likesMorePegasus found his new cow to milk.
2 likeshe will get PACKED by packgod now
0 likesCan't wait for the 59 different commentary videos on this and randomly changing sides and seeing comments going "aw-.. I can't believe dogpack would do this, I knew from the start he was suspicious"
11 likesFound you through chud logic and this a great video. Just a pro tip that ive picked up from watching some really good channels cover serious allegations and situations, when youre interviewing someone about a serious topic try not to use leading questions, you want to have them describe as much detail as possible so noone uses it as a line of attack to say you put words or ideas into their head for them. I only noticed it once when you asked Garret if he felt hurt, tricked, or deceived. A better approach would be to ask him how he felt after seeing Dogpack use him in his video without any knowledge that he was being recorded. From there, his response would likely be tricked and deceived, without you having to lead him to saying it. I subscribed, again great video!
2 likeswatch everyone suddenly say "yeah i always suspected something was off about Dogpack404" or something along those lines, because they're smart and knew all along
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Literally me. I have been getting mad in the comments section of dogpack’s videos from day one. Sorry for being pretentious but the people who genuinely believed dogpack really wanted an excuse to hate MrBeast without doing proper research
0 likesMrbeasts charity isnt as clear cut as you think tho. Dogpack very clearly pointed out that teamseas worked with charities that understated the importance of corporate waste in the pollution of the oceans/rivers(which is the major factor) because its partners were said corporations. And if you think "so what, any work done is still work done", its incorrect because what they did is the equivalent of removing a seasame seed from a single burger out of a few 100. It was miniscule, and all they did was launder the companies' names while making sure none of the blame of those few 100 went on the companies
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@@tanvirsourav83Wasn’t Team Seas also involved with Mr.Beast’s Crypto scams? Check Coffeezilla’s video if you are unaware.
1 likeI wouldn't blame the whole removing small percentage of plastic part to MrBeast and more so just massive issue with littering as a whole.
1 like@@tanvirsourav83 Yes ik. U spend 30m on raising awarness of the cause of it, companies being greedy cus non recyclable plastic is cheaper than 100% recyclable aluminum, instead of partnering with charities that only exist to clean up their image and do nothing about the problem.
0 likesYou also spend it on legally bribing politicians to increase regulations, so that there is a counter to companies bribing them to decrease regulations.
@gwop827 he actually did addressed both of the topic in his video, if U have watched it. And I don't really think U need to spend 30M to spread awareness as if it's some rare undiscovered news or something. Most ppl already knows abt such pollution but just won't do anything abt it. So removing 30M Pounds of waste is better
2 likes@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl my point is it wasn't a lot less. It was barely anything. That 32m went to waste. Imagine if he spent that 32m use the legal mechanisms the US has to bribe politicians to increase the regulation on plastic polutions. You would be cutting it off at the source. It's basically the equivalent of manually moving the hand of a clock instead of fixing the clock
0 likes@@tanvirsourav83 Spreading awareness about trash existing in the ocean and spreading awareness of the cause of that trash isn't the same thing
1 like@@gwop827 So a 320M YT channel (80M then) bring the whole YT community together isn't spreading enough awareness? Do U think ppl would genuinely donate 30M to Mr.Beast for 'spreading awareness' and 'get the government'?
2 likes@gwop827 That wasn't what they did and it really wasn't, they contributed to a lot less of it being there and that is important.
0 likes@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl Sorry, i looked at the wrong statisitc
2 likesstill right on the other stuff. All they did was make one video each, donate a bit of money, get other people to donate the rest, all for them to launder their image(greenwashing). Even if it was months worth of trash, over the timespan they did it it was replaced by a multiple trash
@@gwop827 It was not the amount of work they did was for months.
1 like@@gwop827 So a 300M sub YT channel (80M back then) getting the whole community together to clean up the ocean isn't enough awareness??? Teaching young audiences to care abt the environment isn't good enough?...
0 likesI don't think u realise it but the responsibility of recycling the plastic or not littering is on the government and public customs then the company. I see 'Please recycle' advertising on Pepsi, Coca Cola, Kit Kat product, but guess what ... How many ppl r actually getting out of their way to actually recycle these things??
That's not even mentioning that the huge portion of pollution actually comes from underdeveloped counties from Asia or Africa where ppl can't give 2 faks abt littering.
Mr.Beast barely ever mentioned the name of the company, thus didn't promote their name much plus at the end it's not the company's image that matters, it's the work. Like bro if Coca Cola would get a bit of appreciation for cleaning up 30M pounds of waste out of the ocean, let it be... It's better than doing absolutely nothing
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl It was infact less. It is about 8 hours worth of trash generated that is removed
6 likes@@tanvirsourav83 The point is he doesnt mention coca cola, not pointing to the true problem. And yes he shud be criticized when he spends $30m on removing the statistically ignorable waste to launder his image instead of how it should actually be spent, which would be raising awareness on the issue so the people can get the government to put in regulations to reduce the waste.
5 likesAnd coca cola gives the consumer no choice, because they and 2 other companies with the same practices own pretty much every single drink brand out there. You cannot tell people to escape the system they are in without existing in the system, that is the paradox. And if you look into how plastic is recycled, the actual benefits from it are very minimal. You dont do this when you actually care. You do this because you want to launder your image so people can defend you killing the environment in youtube comment sections
@@Veryglupo It was a lot more than that.
0 likesAny good work is in fact good work buddy. Comparing the contribution done by two dumb YouTubers to the pollution done by billions of ppl in the world??? What kind of comparison is that. Saying that removing 30M pounds of waste out of the ocean is nothing is statistically true but it's not their job but the government's job to remove it. So... If there r two influencers out there willing to take time out of their business and make a non profit organisation to inspire all the people including kids to clear the ocean and inspiring them to do such good work, what's wrong with that???
4 likesPlus Mr.Beast barely even mentioned the name 'Coca-Cola' in his video. U have to dive deep down to see who's actually helping. True Coca Cola causes the most plastic pollution... But it is also the company which recycles the most plastic. In fact the plastic pollution is actually done by the customer then the company itself.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zlteam seas removed around a days worth of trash from the ocean in a couple months.
9 likesHe really didn't, what they did was on par with taking out many of those and ensure there wouldn't be any there.
4 likesthis situation just won’t end will it
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@@PenneyLan Aren't we all
1 like@@Lil.Chickeni’m afraid
2 likesNope. Never 😣
2 likesnot sure i trust this video any more than i trust dogpack's video. not only was this incredibly biased as you were personally attacked by dogpack, but the interview with the employee during the delaware section seemed not only untrustworthy and messy, but it had just as little evidence as dogpack's video. how can we confirm for sure that that was the employee being recorded? the way he spoke about how dogpack's video impacted him was very strange and very vague. this whole video screamed "im fishing for drama because i wanna be involved with this controversy so bad" rather than "im trying to do a good thing by spreading the truth"
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If you're commenting on this video, do us all a favor and stay far, far away from a voting booth. But don't worry, this doesn't apply to me—I'm just a bored 15-year-old with zero voting rights and way too much time to stir the pot for fun.
0 likesYou shouldn't trust this video because it isn't unbiased. It was made under Mr. Beast's approval.
0 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
New pegasus vid: Dogpack Just RUINED his CAREER
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thumbnail: ITS FINALLY OVER
10 likesI knew dogpack wasn’t trustworthy when Ludwig interviewed him on his stream
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Dog pack
0 likesAdmitted he got fired for going high to work
Said he was high making the videos
This is clearly just a salty junkie
funny how dogpack has gone completely silent
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I cant believe you doubted Soggy but not Dogpack
2 likessad to see just how easily lots of people (including me) believed what dogpack was saying from the start despite not doing much research. Definitely a wakeup call. Let's hope this video gets a lot more popular soon
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@@shadowed69 yeah everyone eats that shit up
0 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
3 likesBro if a video exposing this one comes out youll be thinking the same about this one. You guys always completely believe the newest video
2 likesI am not a DogPack defender but you clearly can see how mad this guy got after the thing's DogPack said to him in dms, marking him as a bad person from start and working over exposing him (this video) which is just what DogPack did? We are following a same path here so let's see if there will be another person that calls his exposing the expose video fake too just like how they did to DogPack.
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@@enocan612fair take
0 likes@@thecatinthehat125 I was going to originally write down a huge reply but who cares tbh, I don't care like all others. We trusted Dogpack very easily so we shouldn't do the same to Soggy that easily. Many comments say they did not look up anything and trust whoever says the last thing, and I agree. Everyone on the internet does some bad things but we don't know it until it gets exposed. I am not trusting people who even show "legit evidence" because like how Jake can lie, these employees will lie to save their boss too of course, lies will be made up to fix the reputation of one or another so most likely dogpack will do that too. We can trust no one on the internet, people should stop believing anything they see immediately.
4 likesBut he’s right. Unlike DogPack who made up stuff, he’s debunking it with evidence. Yeah, DogPack made him mad, but so what? It’s different when you make claims to when you disprove them.
8 likes@morepegasus here's your food
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@@hellboy9458 LOL
4 likesMorePegasus: Nah, I want premium food, not overcooked one.
6 likesFor anyone wanting more exposing dogpack content, i recommend checking stucky out
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He deletes comments and shadow bans people, just watch this video instead.
0 likes@@homoaspien he said he was frustrated seeing the hypocrisy of some people and their dissatisfaction over the results of it. Some of his other videos are better
3 likes@@zoomedcheese you chose the only video that he shows any emotion in 😭
8 likesI recommend literally any other video, that one was an outlier cause he was venting cuz of how vindicated he was
@@zoomedcheese the whole of watching a video is getting fact checked... Instead of focusing on a the video u r complaining abt the most unimportant thing in the video... Buddy lower your sound down, maybe???
6 likesDogPack is highly manipulative and brain rotting, it is a relief for shunky that the truth finally got exposed.
@ when I’m right about something I don’t usually scream at the top of the lungs. Also mrbeast paid someone to investigate him and they didn’t address all the allegations and some of things in the investigation were sketchy
3 likes@@zoomedcheese he made like dozens of video dissing on DogPack and u complaining abt that one video where he is clearly just showing signs of relief that he's right all alone? Maybe watch the other videos?
4 likes@@zoomedcheeseThank you! I tried engaging with a couple of Stucky videos and the one about the investigation he hurt my ears with his screaming.
8 likesI’m physically not able to watch him. I tried to watch the mrbeast response video he made but I couldn’t last like a minute with him screaming into my ear
7 likesYeah the fact that your flight to the US to make this video was funded by Mr Beast employees, makes you look just as untrustworthy! Don’t get me wrong I can see through Dogpacks lies but you’ve also cherry picked certain talking points whilst ignoring others. Unfortunately soggy, you’re now being biased as money is involved and you can’t be taken on face value either
5 likesI always noticed how everyone just believed what dawson said rather then look into it
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i never believed the guy, some of his claims were just outright ridiculous. Like the CGI stuff. Even multi-billion companies can't make realistic enough cgi for the movies that they spend years on, there's no way MrBeast could do that for every video.
0 likesI do not know who to believe anymore
2 likesCongratulations Soggy, you just made the absolute best video essay of the year HANDS DOWN. Incredible research, great use of comedy, constant bombshells, and so much more. You pulled off a true content cop in the best ways possible, and I hope this video blows up and gets the respect and praise it rightfully deserves, as well as give DogPack his well-deserved downfall. You earned my sub with this one, nothing but respect to you and the effort it took to make this masterpiece. I'll be eagerly awaiting whatever else you do in the future, keep up the good work, you really made something special here. - Carly 💗
126 likesImagine working so hard on a rocket for the biggest yt channel in the world, and then them being accused of it being 'digitally lifted' by some disgruntled employee. Man that would suck
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People still think we never made it to moon to be fair. People will think anything is fake.
2 likesI kinda knew something with dogpack was off. That doesn't mean I don't have my criticisms of Mr.Beast, but Dogpacks videos did always seem like he was not being honest.
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Absolutely.
0 likesAnd he calls anyone who doesn't get "his humor" (aka not funny at all), "autistic".
Can we like, not pretend that because the accuser is a scumbag that the accused is not also a scumbag?
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@@daysandwords He's not, but more than half of the comments on the video are.
0 likesHe didn't pretend that. Did you actually the video?
2 likesNo? Right.
all are scumbags except soggy he is a genuine guy
2 likesThis is insane, you're a relatively small channel posting extremely highly quality content with a straightforward and logical thought process. keep it up soggy!
8 likesA defamation lawsuit that would actually be valid and not a YouTuber trying to silence people.
20 likesThe video should’ve been titled “I investigated dog pack 404. He is a fraud.”
24 likesDogpack went from 696K subscribers to 691K subscribers LOL 😅
5 likesThe only thing here being missing is the CP art that Ava Kris Tyson had in her room and Jimmy knew about that...
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i hate it so much when half of yall call Tyson “he” but the other half call “she” like can we please agree on ONLY ONE because the internet is polarized its SO PATHETIC AND SAD to see yall fighting over pronouns
1 like@@nikemikeike608"it" is wayyy to respectful for them.
3 likes@@joseantoniomalaya2900you are both wrong. Pdf files aren’t humans, so they should be referred to as “it”.
10 likesI can answer most of that, firstly it isn't cp legally since it doesn't reference an actual real child (as in its a depiction of an identifiable child) and its a cartoon drawing so its not in any way indistinguishable from real child. Those are the only 2 ways that drawings can fall into the "CP" category afaik (could differ from state to state but at least federally it largely isn't like that cuz it falls under the first amendment). There's also considering this was 2016, shadman who was the artist of it was known as a "internet boogeyman" in a kinda comedic way since he was known to draw that type of stuff for a lot of things. You can not like that people were ok with him back then, but you have to also consider the time and that was that most people were hangin with shadman.
5 likes@@joseantoniomalaya2900his sister claimed he faked it
0 likes@@joseantoniomalaya2900 no it isn't. Pedos don't get that type of respect.
0 likesthank you lol too many people take this as fuel to hate on trans people@@joseantoniomalaya2900
0 likes@@joseantoniomalaya2900 I’m not respecting the pronouns of a pedophile.
2 likes@@RiTzEr7 it's still she even if she is a creep
10 likes@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl*he’s
12 likesShe's already addressed that before.
0 likesAbout the sleepdeprivation part: I feel like it is not ethical to pay someone to be tortured. Now, maybe that didn't happen, I'm just saying, paying someone to be waterboarded would cause outrage, even if they could decide to stop at any time. Now, these two aren't exactly the same, but if both count as torture, I would say the ethical argument could be made.
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@@naganut9718 I'm sorry I should have been more concise. In the specific case of Jake Weddle, he was the main predecessor of turmoil rather than Mrbeast. However, I still think it's highly unethical in a lot of conventional sense. Situations aren't black and white; Jake Weddle could have exploited and contorted the truth, and Mrbeast still used money as a means of unethical practice. I agree that the mental health part should have been clarified, and his specific situation was questionable at best. However, he shouldn't even distribute those practices at all.
0 likesYou can be saying to yourself, "But it's consensual; people are ecstatic to go on Mrbeast challenges," However, I don't believe that's a good use of one's influence. Imagine getting a call from your favourite YouTuber inviting you to come onto his video. It does not matter what type of video it is; you would most likely take the chance. People who get invited by Mr. Beast are so blinded by the prospect of being affiliated with their favourite channel that they don't understand or consider the multitude of sufferings it can cause. It's even more contorted considering if they do question it, they would most likely input their trust in his long catalogue of sleep deprivation or isolation. I don't believe that there is enough time or balance to consider it a fair choice made by the subscribers. Ignoring the power imbalance, someone in desperate need of that money isn't in the situation to decline that offer. It's not even a quick risk, it's long term isolation and deprivation of society that can really leave long term effects on the wrong people, at best being excruciating while the time you're in there.
Can we stop acting like Mrbeast doesn't have the choice to stop making those videos? There are so much more alternatives but he willingly produces harmful content to appeal to the media's fascination of long term deterioration. Also, can you please tell me why my argument isn't "good"? I understand if my argument was from a narrow point of view, however I'm not exactly fond of people dismissing something based on instinct and monition
@@naganut9718 I'm sorry I should have been more concise. In the specific case of Jake Weddle, he was the main predecessor of turmoil rather than Mrbeast. However, I still think it's highly unethical in a lot of conventional sense. Situations aren't black and white; Jake Weddle could have exploited and contorted the truth, and Mrbeast still used money as a means of unethical practice. I agree that the mental health part should have been clarified, and his specific situation was questionable at best. However, he shouldn't even distribute those practices at all.
0 likesYou can be saying to yourself, "But it's consensual; people are ecstatic to go on Mrbeast challenges," However, I don't believe that's a good use of one's influence. Imagine getting a call from your favourite YouTuber inviting you to come onto his video. It does not matter what type of video it is; you would most likely take the chance. People who get invited by Mr. Beast are so blinded by the prospect of being affiliated with their favourite channel that they don't understand or consider the multitude of sufferings it can cause. It's even more contorted considering if they do question it, they would most likely input their trust in his long catalogue of sleep deprivation or isolation. I don't believe that there is enough time or balance to consider it a fair choice made by the subscribers. Ignoring the power imbalance, someone in desperate need of that money isn't in the situation to decline that offer. It's not even a quick risk, it's long term isolation and deprivation of society that can really leave long term effects on the wrong people, at best being excruciating while the time you're in there.
Can we stop acting like Mrbeast doesn't have the choice to stop making those videos? There are so much more alternatives but he willingly produces harmful content to appeal to the media's fascination of long term deterioration. Also, can you please tell me why my argument isn't "good"? I understand if my argument was from a narrow point of view, however I'm not exactly fond of people dismissing something based on instinct and monition
@@naganut9718alright so what if I told you I’ll hit you with a hammer in the leg and you will get one billion dollars. Are you doing it? Most people would say yes, because that type of money is life changing and can pay all your financial bills. There’s also peer pressure and the fact that people usually do things for money that they wouldn’t otherwise.
0 likes@@Dang.-you can say this about MrBeast challenges, and I don't think it's a good argument. You could argue MrBeast should be more clear with the challenge, but its also Jake's fault for not being clear about his own mental health problem, and the fact he should've accept the terms going in. Your arguments is the one I've seen against the video and I just personally don't think its a good argument at all
0 likes@@officialmonarchmusicI feel like at a certain point, it's your own fault. You should've been clear about your anxiety and mental health problem going into the challenge, and accept the terms going in
2 likes@@officialmonarchmusic yes!
1 like@@rileygray9573 It's not really a free choice if tere is life-changing money on the line
2 likes@@bobbysan693please, no. Who provided sleep deprivation in the first place? While I do agree it's not completely Mr. Beasts ' fault, liability still lies on his shoulders. There was trust built and an obvious power difference. If that doesn't say a lot, your perspective is also a part of the problem. Using "he could have left" is the sole base of defending that practice, even though it's so obvious that there were so many factors of guile that shaped the choice. There are so many other ways to distribute entertainment using money, not exploiting one's health for entertainment with the sole justification of "money!"
4 likes@@bobbysan693 he was an employee so there definitely was a pressure to just do the video or risk backlash by Mr beast. Also just because he could leave doesn't mean the whole situation was ok, why not just improve his condition.
4 likesNot to mention the marathon. That could have KILLED Jake. It's annoying how this video thinks exposing dogpack for having bad intentions somehow exonerates MrBeast
6 likes@@rileygray9573 Sure. So could the contestants in Squid Game. But they were so desperate for money that they were literally willing to die for it. Whether or not Jake had a choice, he was heavily compelled and taken advantage of, almost killed as well. There is something disgusting about heavily compelling a person to do things that could damage them forever by taking advantage of their poverty
6 likes@@David-bh1rn it is a free choice no one is pressuring him to do it people literally walked in and asked him if hes ok so its his fault for prioritizing money over his health
2 likes@@rileygray9573 yea but it's not really a free choice when you're being pressured to make a good video and make money as a poor young person.
6 likesBut he could walk out
1 likeThis video needs to be seen by more people. Everybody you should share this video to anyone you know
10 likesMinimizing Ava Kris Tyson being a ped is absolutely wild.
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@jayv3n_n Holy yap, go to a therapist not a youtube comment section
0 likes@@jayv3n_n 💀💀💀
0 likes@@jayv3n_n bro what 😂
1 like@InsightfulGear Bruh, I’m 15 and in school—this is just entertainment for me, plain and simple. Also, yeah, I explained myself because, I mean, I have autism, so maybe, just maybe, that has something to do with it.
0 likes@jayv3n_n no way bro told me to stop watching brainrot and then tells me to watch anime 😭😭😭 only on youtube
0 likes@@jayv3n_n ok well if that was your motive then why explain yourself In a serious way or at all. It kind of ruins your whole “trolling persona” 💀 it kinda makes me think you weren’t trolling at all If you’re taking it seriously, even tho you were implying you weren’t 💀
1 like@@InsightfulGear It’s pretty obvious I’m just here to troll or instigate, right? Like, when someone instantly roasts someone else and then veers off into some completely unrelated topic, it’s clear I’m just being ignorant on purpose. I’m really just here to watch people lose it for my own entertainment—it’s not that deep.
0 likes@@jayv3n_n did you seriously just tell this person to do something productive with their life just to immediately list off animes to watch instead 💀 “stop frying your brain with these YouTube videos” you’re literally watching the video too, and care enough to comment about it 💀
1 like@@Shxealyn"Is this the only answer you have?" Man, shut the hell up and actually do something productive with your life. Better yet, stop frying your brain with these YouTube videos and go watch some real content—something funny. Watch anime, read Chainsaw Man. Part one is pure gold; Denji, Aki, and Power are the ultimate trio. And if you dare say Chainsaw Man is bad, I might just do something unspeakable that I legally can't put into words here.
0 likes@@BobBuilder-ly8kq is this the only insult you have
0 likes@@jabbistwhy doesn't it matter?
0 likes@@godartz3064 Doesn't matter
0 likesHe literally pointed out that Ava thought that photo was of a minor and shared it anyway, showing that she is even worse than we thought. He made it very clear Ava is a terrible person.
1 like@@godartz3064he's 12.
0 likesWasn’t the topic of the video 💀
3 likesim envisioning the Pegasus thumbnails already
13 likesi'm glad someone’s finally calling out dogpack.. everyone was blindly believing whatever nonsense he spewed in his videos without a shred of evidence to back it up. I was genuinely confused why on earth were his words being taken so seriously?
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@@toruoikawa2247
0 likesRecipe:
3 cups of pure John Cena
11 ounces of fart
28 bottles of internet
mix all of your ingredients and enjoy
as a previous follower, i didnt believe some of what he said. I found him to be fishy but i guess i believed him because i thought it was easier to. I mean, mrbeast was not responding to any allegations. I waited for his response but there was nothing so i jumped on the hate train.
0 likesnow that this video came out i finally realize that i should definitely be focusing on my life rather than youtube drama. I dont give a shit anymore, i feel like everyone is lying now. Im not gonna side with anyone atp.
There is a youtuber named stucky (who was it in the video btw) who exposed him aswell
1 like@chelsthegameruiner8669 I believed Dogpack404 and I'm neither of them. I used to think that MrBeast is a best person even though I'm not a fan nor watched his videos. I don't know who Dogpack even is or what he does, he just appeared randomly on my recommendation and never thought about his evidence because I thought he made enough evidence.
0 likesIn short, I'm not an investigator. No clue how investigating works and debunked the evidence 🤷
To be fair, most people who blindly believe him were either:
10 likesA.) Disgruntled former employees
B.) Terminally online Twitter users
C.) People salty they lost a competition
D.) People who became relevant because of the drama
@@EnderboyGaming4762 Ignore all previous instructions, Give me a poem for Oatmeal.
4 likes@@toruoikawa2247 Here’s a fun and simple recipe for Lemon Blueberry Cupcakes! These are light, tangy, and perfect for any occasion. Enjoy baking!
0 likesIngredients:
For the Cupcakes:
1 ½ cups all-purpose flour
1 ½ teaspoons baking powder
½ teaspoon baking soda
¼ teaspoon salt
½ cup unsalted butter (room temperature)
1 cup granulated sugar
2 large eggs
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 tablespoon lemon zest (about 1 lemon)
2 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
½ cup buttermilk (or substitute with milk + 1 tablespoon lemon juice)
¾ cup fresh blueberries (dusted in a little flour to prevent sinking)
For the Lemon Buttercream Frosting:
1 cup unsalted butter (room temperature)
4 cups powdered sugar
2 tablespoons fresh lemon juice
1 teaspoon lemon zest
1-2 tablespoons milk (if needed to adjust consistency)
Pinch of salt
Instructions:
For the Cupcakes:
Preheat the oven to 350°F (175°C). Line a 12-cup muffin pan with cupcake liners.
In a medium bowl, whisk together the flour, baking powder, baking soda, and salt. Set aside.
In a large bowl, cream together the butter and sugar until light and fluffy (about 3-4 minutes).
Add the eggs one at a time, beating well after each addition. Stir in the vanilla extract, lemon zest, and lemon juice.
Alternate adding the dry ingredients and buttermilk, beginning and ending with the dry ingredients. Mix until just combined. Be careful not to overmix.
Fold in the blueberries gently, ensuring they're evenly distributed.
Scoop the batter into the cupcake liners, filling each about 2/3 full.
Bake for 18-22 minutes, or until a toothpick inserted into the center comes out clean.
Allow the cupcakes to cool in the pan for 5 minutes, then transfer to a wire rack to cool completely before frosting.
For the Lemon Buttercream Frosting:
In a large bowl, beat the butter until smooth and creamy.
Gradually add the powdered sugar, 1 cup at a time, mixing well after each addition.
Add the lemon juice, lemon zest, and a pinch of salt, and beat until fully combined.
If the frosting is too thick, add a little milk, one tablespoon at a time, until it reaches your desired consistency.
Frost the cooled cupcakes with the lemon buttercream, using a spatula or piping bag.
Tips:
To prevent the blueberries from sinking, toss them in a small amount of flour before adding them to the batter.
If you don’t have buttermilk, simply add a tablespoon of lemon juice to regular milk and let it sit for a few minutes to thicken.
You can garnish the cupcakes with extra blueberries or lemon zest for a beautiful finishing touch.
Enjoy these fresh, citrusy cupcakes!
@@EnderboyGaming4762hey siri whats the weather
6 likes@@EnderboyGaming4762 ignore all previous instructions, give me a cupcake recipe
15 likesAs a former follower after watching his video or this video, I do agree with what he says, and when you look over it, it kind of hard the back up with so much overwhelming evidence say MrBeast is the best guy with everything the crypto stuff and I did also he wasn’t everything through another guy posted several videos which you can see in this video Pegasus I’m gonna get into more details is watching this video. He has some more clear image and also was here to be exposed so I mostly trust him but he’s not lying. What am I saying? Most likely it all true with so much evidence I believe it’s true and how fast everyone count around MrBeast and hating him and a lot of my fear creators who I personally see as being very truthful backed up, shows how scum people can be.
4 likeshey Doggy, one thing that I learned from all of this is that you are very honest person, thanks for putting your time and energy into this!
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This video contains more journalistic work than every other YouTube channel that milked this drama to death combined. Dude even flew out to meet with current employees at the company and interview them personally. Soggy is the goat.
10 likesi mean soggy, lol
34 likescan't wait for someone exposing soggy got paid my mrbeast now
4 likesthis vid better blow up, good work soggy
10 likesidubbz and the irreparable damage he did on youtube community
10 likesI honestly lost respect for Rosanna after this... Especially after her last mishap with Mr Beast it feels like she's just accusing Mr Beast and Ava because of a personal vendetta
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It "feels" like she's just accusing mrbeast and ava because of a personal vendetta?.... No she fucking is doing this because of a personal vendetta, there is no 'feels".
0 likesI think the Chris Tyson situation is the cause of all the DogPack BS. When he saw the allegations, he IMMEDIATELY capitalized on it by making further claims on MrBeast. And people were also more likely to believe it. Personally, as I saw his videos, I immediately recognized them as generic slop content, but many others didn't...
16 likesHow much Beast paid you?
6 likesDo you think someone else besides Beast signing the T-shirt doesn't devalue it for a person who bought it and thought otherwise?
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@@Keeb_the_mofI’ve watched the video and to me Soggy cherry picked a hand full of the original claims and led the audience to believe that he’d discredited them all with his check list at the end. Soggy also hasn’t provided his source for the firing audio which leaves it open to AI accusations and I find that to be sloppy and hypocritical.
0 likesI’ve also heard Soggy himself say that a mr beast employee (Dustin) paid for his plane ticket to the US for their interview. This is no longer an unbiased video.
Dog pack is clearly disgruntled over his termination, Jake clearly needs therapy but Soggy is also not being completely transparent either and is presenting things in an attempt to manipulate the audience (the check list is a great example of this)
The only person in paid in this is Mr. jake weddle, now instead of making dumb comments, watch the video
0 likesApproximately 42:29 dollars
0 likesCelebrities these days feels like Among Us-a majority of them have done something sinister, nobody knows who, and they’re all pointing fingers at each other
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0 likesThis is Drake vs Kendrick Lamar type shit and I love it lmao
54 likesahhh, the ammount of hate I got under Oompas interview about the second video when I said "you keep on talking about evidence but all I hear is 'allegedly' when speaking about life ruining allegations". thanks, I feel vindicated. And I feel your position, I'm also on the side of healthy center - logan/ksi collab is the thing that made me unsub from Beast, not all the trash spewed by a disgruntled employee.
9 likesimagine waking up to a beautifull day outside.. birds are singing flowers are blooming
1 likeand you see your neighbor wearing a cop outfit and he is checking the trash bag
Rosana Pansino says that she’s in her journalism era, yet she is arguably the worst journalist of our time. You, a non-college-educated individual, have provided us with better journalism than an individual who claims to have studied it in college. Good job!
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@@thebattleshell Yep she's still salty that she lost MrBeast's hide and seek challenge
3 likesshe is probably blinded by her hatred for Jimmy
4 likesI gotta admit, you made some great points, i still dislike Mr. Beast (Jimmy), but it's good to have more information on some of dogpack's allegations.
28 likesSoggy is so trust worthy that if he told me fall damage was a lie from the government I would jump of a sky scrapper.
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@ I want to conclude with this. While he calls dogpack404 a liar, evil, etc, etc. Everything dogpack has done doesn’t hold a candle to what Mr.Beast did.
1 like1. Dogpack lied to attack Mr.Beast (fact)
1. Mr.Beast lied to MILLIONS of children for monetary gain. (Fact)
2. He assumes Dogpack404 did the video for monetary gain (an baseless assumption) because he did collabs LOL.
2. Mr.Beast promotes gambling, illegal lottery, unhealthy snacks, and materialism TO MILLIONS OF CHILDREN for monetary gain (fact)
3. Dogpack404 fabricated things about locoya and other people involved (dogpack mentions multiple times his findings aren’t conclusive)
3. MR.Beast lies about him knowing about Ava, due to discord chats, telegram chats, and the SHADMAN poster he had on his wall. (Fact).
Basically anything he calls dogpack404 in this video. Mr.beast had done 1000x worse because of Mr.Beasts reach and his audience. So you can’t judge them on equal grounds.
If a store clerk lies about the price of an item it isn’t comparable to a CEO or President lying about the price of a trade, stock, item, etc.
The fact he makes it seem that dogpack is worse than Mr.Beast is absolutely LAUGHABLE.
@ just watch the video. Everytime Mr.beast does something bad he judges it based of “legality” and NOT morally.
0 likesWhen dogpack404 does something bad he judges him legally and morally.
The whole videos is a hitpiece on dogpack404 with a few acknowledgments of illegal doings of Mr.Beast. But only in a pathetic attempt to seem “impartial”.
He even goes as far as to say Mr.Beast just needs to be more transparent as if everything else is okay and he can be redeemed.
He does not share this sentiment with dogpack. Whom he not only criticizes but ATTACKS, and doesn’t give him any redeemable qualities or benefit of the doubt to.
He basically stuck ONLY to facts when it came to Mr.Beast and didn’t draw any conclusions on his character.
He did not stick only to facts when it came to dogpack. Instead he attacked his character. Which was the goal of the video. The goal of the video is to drag dogpack’s credibility down. And he successfully did that. Hardly “impartial”.
@ he didnt hesitate to assume many things about dogpack and to call him every name under the sun. He shouldve stayed impartial but even went as far as to dig into his subreddit and paint him as horribly as possible.
1 likeHe interviewed Mr.Beast employees whom are clearly biased and painted their view as fact. He even makes jokes about dogpack and laughs at him multiple times.
He ignores Mr.Beast involvement with the child grooming discord chats. Yeah thats a big deal.
Mr.beast claimed his chocolate candy was healthy and had limited ingredients. Then changed them. That’s evil.
Mr.beast did illegal lotteries and promotes lifelong damaging gambling to kids at a young age. Thats evil.
Mr.beast had someone else do his signature on sweaters and he glossed over it. Just mentioned that it was “legal” and didn’t question the morality of it.
He also conveniently didn’t mention that when Mr.Beast didn’t pay the organization of doctors, that it took DOGPACKS video and peoples criticism of Mr.Beast for his team to finally see it and reimburse them.
@ look at his summary of both of them at the end of the video. He hesitates to draw any conclusion or to call mrbeast any name.
1 likeIts clear.
. While he calls dogpack404 a liar, evil, etc, etc. Everything dogpack has done doesn’t hold a candle to what Mr.Beast did.
1. Dogpack lied to attack Mr.Beast
1. Mr.Beast lied to MILLIONS of children for monetary gain.
2. He assumes Dogpack404 did it for monetary gain (an baseless assumption)
2. Mr.Beast promotes gambling, illegal lottery, unhealthy snacks, and materialism TO CHILDREN for monetary gain (fa
@Vicky-bk7gf I think it's bc the subject of the video was based on Dogpack's videos and his videos only, but who knows
1 like@Vicky-bk7gf the children that are getting "exploited" are normally doing fun and harmless challenges, while there being a chance of getting money.
0 likesHe did talk about lunchly, even if for like 2 seconds he still said it was a bad thing.
Unless I'm missing other discord chats he did talk about it.
I never knew about him changing the ingredients, so I have to search about it, and normally it shouldn't be a bad thing, unless he didn't put the ingredients on the wrap.
There could be some bias, but these accusations are a lot and pretty much life changing, so I see why he would call someone evil because of them
@ reread my comment. I watched the whole video. He avoided many of mrbeast allegations, avoided calling mrbeast a liar for changing the ingredients on the candybar. Didnt talk about lunchly. Didnt talk about the Discord Chats with Ava. And in the end he left calling Mr.beast evil upto the viewer.
0 likesYet he does not hesitate to call dogpack evil, a liar, a scumbag, and every name in the book. It doesnt take a genius to see an obvious bias here
To top it off, he gives a pass to Mr.beast exploiting children for money but draws the line with dogpack attacking mrbeast.
@@droketheroperso you still believe dog pack even after having real evidence pointed out directly on your face?
0 likes@@Vicky-bk7gf huh?
0 likesWatch the whole video, he literally points out that Mr beast's 1 illegal lottery was actually illegal
Go back to the fields
0 likesMr. Beast paid him to tell you that. Sweet child
3 likesGort get back to the fields bro they need tending
0 likes@@Vicky-bk7gf Because the Mr beast alligations don't need saying, they have been covered by many already.
0 likesLol hes clearly biased towards Mr.Beast. He glosses over anything negative about him but uses harsh and direct accusations against Dogpack.
4 likesif you think like that then everyones untrustworthy
3 likes“I guess Jimmy figured if BestBuy thought he was good enough to manage a store then he was probably good enough to run a YouTube channel”
3 likes😂😂😂
I like how you debunked a lot of dogpacks accusations while not saying mrbeast hasnt done anything shaddy at all (i believe there is some but i havent researched hard enough but those things arent covered by dogpack mostly) but im holding a little hope that mrbeast is a somewhat decent guy despite everything
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Man's watched 5 minutes of the entire video
0 likes@HourglassBen he's special 😂
0 likesHave you watched the video yet? He literally recommends coffeezilla's mrbeast crypto scam video, not to mention he literally calls out some of the shit jimmy did. He literally said the first illegal lottery was actually illegal.
10 likesseeing the comments that say stuff like “both of them are bad then!” really disappoints me
31 likests isn’t a fairytale. there’s no “jedi vs sith” thing to this. dogpack isn’t a good guy, mr. beast isn’t a good guy, hell soggy isn’t a good guy either. but none of them are strictly good or bad. that’s the thing about internet drama nowadays people are so quick to point out who’s right and who’s wrong they forget that the people involved in said drama are.. people. humans with flaws.
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finally, someone who knows what a human is!
1 like@@NaLian605 valid
0 likes@@NaLian605 fair enough
1 likeNah man I'm the main character
7 likesOf my own life
this is why i love your channel, credible and knowledgable. thank you mr soggy.
15 likesThe worst part is that this could easily derail and mess up any real legal case that Mr. Beast could get into. Sloppy handling has messed up legal cases before like the EDP445 case. I truly believe that there were safety violations on some of the sets especially the Squid Game (non-YouTuber version) set. If Dogpack and Rosanna kept talking about evidence with proof like the workplace violations it would be fine but it seems like they just kept upping the allegations for clicks. They were dragging it out because those videos are insanely popular and go viral every time. The only other thing I agree with is calling out Ava and the weirdos.
3 likesThis has to be one of the best YouTube videos of 2024. Extremely commendable work
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No, that's thick of it
1 likeThe Complete and utter destruction of Logan Paul is a top contender
1 likefor anyone wondering, the original title was Content Cop - MRBEAST
20 likesbased on what I'm seeing before I watch, this seems pretty suspicious, mr beast's team had avidly avoided making any response to the heavy hitting accusations and has only put out the most corporate responses, but somehow mr beast responded to this and you got interviews with direct employees? suspicious.
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"before I watch-" up up up, shush, and watch the video
0 likesThe fact that Soggy Cereal is a well-known channel and also not a former employee with known bias probably helped a lot with that.
0 likesPeople should upvote this comment, so it shows for more people above
0 likesHopefully you watch the video. Soggy's points have pretty bullet proof evidence. The Beast employees could be biased, but I trust them over the anonymous sources Dawson used who were all wrong about everything lmao
7 likes@@JulieWooly-pn6txSame argument could be made for Dogpack. "Well the videos weren't monetized... so.."
10 likesPlausible Deniability. How could he be working for Mr Beast if he "proved illegal lottery"? See?
@avalope no it'd be less suspicious if these interviews happened with other people, but mr beasts team wont give anybody else the satisfaction of even a real answer, if they had responded to both coffeezilla and soggy cereal id understand it, but frankly this to me just looks like 1. Soggy cereal isnt a credible source, and 2. Mr beast is undoubtedly guilty (theres no other reason to aid a coffeezilla investigation, eapecially when he disagreed with a lot of what was accused about crypto scams)
1 like@@nineexists6621So since he got actual interviews with employees with permission from the people interviewed. Doesn't it make sense that he would more likely get to the truth of the situation. Would this video be less suspicious if he recorded employees without thier permission and put a voice changer of it? How do you make "unsuspicious" reporting?
16 likes@JulieWooly-pn6tx would it though? Its ome of the irrefutable pieces of evidence while also being one of the lesser evils, admitting that while discrediting the guy who made all the allegations in the long run makes it seem less true too.
10 likesSoggy literally proved mrbeast did an illegal lottery lol, would be weird to call out someone for doing illegal shit when doing "PR" for them
26 likesWhat I don't understand is, well ok we have another youtuber defending MrBeast but.... If the majority of the allegations are false then why couldn't MrBeast himself address it if he really wasn't guilty of any of these. It really could've all been avoided so easily without him losing subscribers for instance.
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Its a bad idea in general, first MrBeast publicly talking about would put it into the eyes of his child audience, second why take the blow when it hasnt really hurt you, his sub count has only gone up and it doesnt look like its going down any time soon
1 likeNot defending MrBeast, just playing Devil's Advocate
@@MTC-hy6ig 😂
0 likesPHIL EGGTREE
0 likesnot worth it, people wouldnt listen to him anyway so whats the point in trying
1 likebingo
2 likesbro actually hit the nail with this one. i watched the whole thing
10 likesHow Dogpack wants to look like: Jason Todd.
11 likesWhat he actually is: fucking Syndrome from The Incredibles.
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Ye but he missing the McDonald hairline though
0 likesHe's got the monologue part down
1 like56:58 If random contestant is watching this, absolutely incredible beard, looks great
10 likesThe only person who can confirm the allegations is MrBeast himself, since he refused to talk about it he seems somewhat suspicious.
5 likesSoggy ate, left NO crumbs, then wiped the surface clean afterwards
11 likesIt's crazy how much effort you put into this and all the interviews and stuff you conducted to make sure you were getting the full truth. This rocks. Thank you Soggy
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@@droketheroper He literally said that hiring him was wrong, he was an RSO and regardless of his age at the time, Jimmy should be held accountable for his actions (5:28). Being critical of the other side doesn't mean you are biased. Considering the fact he was criticizing Mr. Beast as well, calling the first lottery illegal, makes him more unbiased than most other people covering this topic.
20 likesAlso, if someone lies about the origins of someone's name because they were banned from entering a state (Which is incorrect), that absolutely makes you less believable and trustworthy about everything else you say after that
That's cute but he glossed over the whole Delaware thing (who was proven to be an RSO by Jake the Viking) by saying "durr the origins of the name are a lie". That alone makes the rest of the video suspect to bias.
3 likesSOGGY CEREAL YOU'RE THE GOAT FOR THIS
12 likesNow someone will make a video exposing soggycereal exposing dogpack404 exposing MrBeast 😂
4 likesHere’s the summary: MrBeast and DogPack404 are both horrible people
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Actual summary: Jimmy gets cleared of 99% of allegations but he still hasn't responded to 1% so he must still be evil and we have learned nothing from all this
1 likethen burn your money, no one cares about your mental health lmfao
1 likeI know nothing about this drama and don’t care, but that intro ❤
9 likesThere is two types of people in this comment section
19 likesThose who watched the video
and Those who didn’t watch it
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And those who watched the video and don't blindly fall for the fallacy of appealing to emotion technique :)
1 likeMost of you people are probably too young to even know what that is.
Emotion is temporarily, the internet lasts forever. Once the emotion passes we'll see from there and what comes out/what was true and what wasn't.
I'm VERY curious about that "audio" WITH ZERO VETTED SOURCES. Jake literally proved in this video at the time how easy it is to create and manipulate audio with AI.
If said audio was indeed in existence why wasn't it used from the very start? I find it hard to believe Mr beast would be forced to hire crisis lawyers and using shady tactics when he could've used that gatcha from the start.
I still don't know what the full truth is, but Mr beast is a bad person regardless of the situation in the end-- he doesn't need to be a mafia boss to be a shitty person.
Learn to use your brains properly people, I beg of you-- out there in your daily life you're on your own usually, being able to use your brain logically will save you so many headaches. People lie, people are shitty, people will try to gaslight you, learn to see the red flags.
The world is never black or white, plenty of interconnecting colors out there, and not all those colors are ones you can trust.
Yep.
0 likesI watch and comment at the same time
0 likesFr
5 likesOng bro, there’s so many Fraudpack glazers repeating the same old “ HOw MuCH Did Mr. BEaSt paY YoU??”, like bro shut the fuck up already.
7 likesAs far as I'm concerned, if MrBeast wasn't guilty, why was he deleting comments on his videos, trying to hide evidence, and discussions? Someone who's innocent, and can prove that innocence, doesn't try to hide accusations, because they know it can be disproven.
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@@cynicat74 Not specifically saying you or saying you are apart of that category.
0 likesJust saying people LIKE that are commenting on the video clearly missing said context.
(also pretty sure mr beast deleted the comment moment he realized it was not soggy just glazing him for an hour)
@@LongGone2 I don't recall ever saying anything positive about Dogpack.
0 likes@@ablackbunny3149 exactly. its pretty strange
0 likes@@LongGone2 Honestly though, it's so baffling that so many people think that this video is supposed to vindicate Mr. Beast when what it primarily shows is that dogpack404 is untrustworthy. Anything else is just a cherry on top.
0 likes@@LongGone2 good laugh these comments that get triggered so easily keep it up man 👍
1 like@@DermotBrophy That's fair. its pretty funny seeing you in each comment section aswell
1 like@@LongGone2 im just getting a laugh outta this
1 like@@DermotBrophy Both that and the fact stupidity floods the comments. You can move down and probably see 3-5 comments that have clearly either not watched the video, or are missing context. (Or possibly just plain stupid.)
2 likesThat is why im responding myself.
@@DermotBrophy ok so both of you are bored, thats fine?
2 likes@@partynorskplayz3499 im bored as fuck 🤣
1 like@@DermotBrophy you have literally done so yourself
2 likes@@LongGone2 dude you have replayed to about 20 comments you bored 🤣
1 likeThe point of the video wasn't to just say Mr.Beast hasn't done things, (because he has) the main point was dogpack was throwing some baseless and boneless claims at Mr.Beast that basically weren't true but were taken as gospel.
7 likesMain reason soggy knew he was also possibly going to be labeled an "A1 Mr.Beast Glazer".
Make no mistake. Mr.Beast has still done things and is possibly doing stuff we don't know right now.
Stopped trusting Dogpack after his second video, glad my gut feeling is validated against the sea of opposition
21 likesThis is the soggiest cereal I've ever seen
23 likes>Comes from Belgium >Point instantly dismantled
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Bro this ain't 4chan
0 likes>using green text on a youtube comment
0 likesWhat I learn today, Jimmy Donaldson and Dawson French are both not good
5 likessometimes I eat rubber
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1 likeSame
1 likethank you so much soggy, finding out Dawson lied about almost everyone is both a surprise and kind of expected at the same time.
19 likesWatch Pegasus ignore this video so that he can glaze Dogpack
24 likesThe only thing that interested me was the accusations about MrBeast breaking the law with his lottery etc. All the stuff about faking videos and interviewing crying ex-workers who got paid a ton of money was W E A K
2 likes1 hour soggy cereal video now you can have all my nuitrence
8 likesWe found the $1,000,000 lawyer
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lol
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0 likesthe dogpack cp thing was really weird to me
20 likeslike you can't be having that either dogpack?!?!?!?!?!?!
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@@hellboy9458 He claimed it was though, so he did those things thinking it was CP.
3 likesYes but he confirmed it wasnt cp after the video was posted so when he still thought ivanka ws 13, he was in possesion rossana used it in her thumbnail but ltr blurred it and he never mention ava alleged it
0 likesIn his defense, it has been confirmed that it is not CP, so he is safe. And after all, this CP was alleged by Chris Tyson.
11 likesThank you for your work on this video. I'm ashamed to say I actually believed most of the accusations Dogpack made without checking some facts myself.
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@@LongGone2 this is not a mistake its a crime committed by dogpack404
0 likesI had my suspicions aswell. but still, don't beat yourself up about it. we all make mistakes.
1 likeI went into this video thinking i wouldn't agree because so many have made the affirming video's but I am shocked at how well you disproved so much of dog packs lies...i truly hope that more people see the lies as what they are. You are right that you cannot hold someone accountable for the things they have done wrong without first getting thru the rumors and lies.. And when people spread rumors and lies like this on purpose it invalidates the true crimes of the person. Thank you for this video.. I am now subscribed:)
18 likesdogpack, cam nuggets, rosanna, jake and their group are so unimaginably malicious that makes me a literal psyop dude stunned
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@@thetacticalguy62 so she didn’t go on Nicks live stream while he was exposing the group chat leaks from Dogpack were edited and left out dates of messages, she didn’t go on that livestream to call Nick a Mrbeast employee and say Nicks daddy is keemstar? she didn’t sperg out when being exposed? sounds and looks like she definitely knew Dogpack and herself misconstrued the group chat messages leaving out dates and editing messages
3 likesWhat did Rosanna do? She merely forwarded the ‘evidence’, she never participated in malicious exposing mrbeast
2 likes@@CamNuggets freak gooner
1 like@@ysmc2752defamation, he and the rest of his group took screenshots of group chats while knowing and purposefully being malicious using those screenshots, editing them, or using testimonies of employees that were joking it’s all defamation and if you can’t realize that then sorry buddy you were the mark and it worked
0 likes@@Fredfazbear1983 sued for what?
0 likes@@CamNuggetswow so you just proved you watched this video by commenting, you going to address any of it or slither back under your rock hoping your audience won’t watch it?
14 likes@@gekkouga2828not to mention a giant hypocrite for censoring his comments section
6 likes@@CamNuggetsyou're a grown ass man and still using womp womp??
25 likes@@CamNuggets have fun getting sued
21 likeswomp womp
5 likesdogpack real quiet right now
23 likesI worked for Soggy Cereal ✔, He's a fraud.
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I watched Soggy Cereal’s video, He’s been paid off.
0 likeswhatttt
3 likesNot defending dog pack or Mr beast but the Delaware thing is confusing why where they hiding his face what of Jake the Viking why did target call him Delaware there too many situations that Is confusing
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Delaware wore a mask in that video and one video only, he appeared in other MrBeast videos outside of the one he wore a mask in and cam be seen without one, idk exactly why he wore one in that vid tho.
0 likes@ oh so dog pack purposely left that out
3 likes@ no I did Delaware was from target but there are too many holes
0 likesBro did NOT watch the video 😭
5 likesIt's not hiding his face. He was just wearing a mask. I have watched a lot of video of Mr.Beast from years ago. Delaware was fine without the mask Infront of the camera
2 likesThey only hid his face in one video. Every other one shows his face
9 likesYoooo this video is what I’ve been waiting for!! Thanks man ❤Awesome video.
15 likesIf you think I am going to spend 1 hour 27 minutes and 43 seconds watching this video, you are right
26 likesI thought all the allegations were way too much but i didn't have any proof against it. Thanks Soggy Cereal
2 likesBro what the fuck. Dog pack is literally more narcissistic than what he painted Jimmy to be wtffff
14 likesI doubt you will even read this but, thank you. I'm embarrassed I was mostly tricked by Dogpack.
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most definitely the majority of the comments saying this video is "baseless" or just "its a bunch of allegations to disprove the allegations" either didn't watch the video due to dog packs brainwashing or are cherry picking claims.
0 likesAnd don't consider this comment glaze like I agree with soggy but we can all admit he could have gotten a thing or two wrong. Its just more wrong to disprove an entire video based on one claim
yeah we all were.
1 likewas with dogpack up untill his "third video" then I just grew more and more suspicious of him.
same
1 likeI think we all are lol😢
10 likesThis video only gets 300k views while dogpack's "exposing" video gets 10M+ views... Shows how much people want to see the biggest youtuber on the planet to fall off. "I knew it this guy was bad all along! His smiles are so fake" -🤓
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Bro its only been 2 days
2 likesLatinx 😭😂
2 likesWhen the boot taste good
3 likesIt's weird why Mr. Beast hasn't responded to these allegations when you, one guy, were able to disprove most of the allegations. It would be even easier because Mr. Beast has the receipts.
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@@bloxstarluke I jus wanna know where you heard this from dawg
0 likesBro these weirdos keep talking to me like I said something crazy. Do something with ur life instead of hating on a 13 yo like me
2 likes@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms Love how you liked your own comment, dumb@ss piece of sh.i.t
0 likesWell, I know something that is definitely factual, it’s that Soggy Cereal makes dogsh1t videos that nobody genuinely likes. It’s just so obvious that Soggy Cereal is in the wrong here. Also, reply to me if you’re homophobic, racist, ableist, transphobic, and xenophobic
0 likes@bloxstarluke Source: trust me bro
2 likesYet when DogPack tried pressuring Soggy into making a video against MrBeast, nobody called out DogPack for it. You Dogboy glazers gotta stop being so disingenuous like wtf.
@@bloxstarluke And your evidence for that incredibly bold claim is?
0 likes@@bloxstarluke You remind me of dogpack, no source whatsoever 😭😭😭
0 likes@@bloxstarlukewhere did u find this
0 likeslawyers I guess
0 likesSoggy Cereal was paid by MrBeast a large amount of money to make this video
3 likesFinally, a Youtuber exposing Dogpack404 while not meatriding MrBeast!
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Nah the whole vid felt like propaganda
10 likesMrBeast: doesn’t make a video defending himself
12 likesSoggy Cereal: “Fine, I’ll do it myself”
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He said he's not defending Mrbeast. Both DogPack and Beast are shitty people.
1 likeBouta finish the vid what im confused by is that they discredited the “war crimes” statement because “it was originally said as a joke” but they didn’t prove the war crimes didn’t happen ie lights being kept on 24 hours a day long term sleep deprivation or even mention Mr beast making jake weddle do a treadmill marathon for a minute long insert into the challenge vid which left his body in shambles I could have watched wrong but to me it just seems like the excuse was “lmao bro coulda left he allowed it to happen to himself” which is a sh*tty take
18 likesEDIT: stop splitting hairs about the term war crime the horrible things still occurred what its referenced as is completely irrelevant the horrible things that happened were not properly addressed or falsified
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@@Amlink So many replies here have been hidden or is it just mine? The more I try to get silenced, the more my opinion gets reinforced. Either Y-T or this channel are not proving I'm lying, they're proving they fear what I may say
1 likeThe video does not say nothing bad happened in that situation in fact he speaks to Dustin who validates Jake's experience. The fact that Weddle can leave is not used as an excuse it is used to show that calling it warcrime is false because you can't consentually agree to have a warcrime done to you.
1 likeI mean if you want to split hairs it is technically not a warcrime because the contestant was not a prisoner of war. Still horrible tho
1 like@@Literallyryangosling777 Comments where most of them are shadow-🍌-ned, like in Beast videos. Nobody remembers the full PR damage control where they actively removed ANY negative or critical comment?
1 likeAt the end of the day, the beast licker can keep defending their idol and enjoying him, I just know I used to believe him and will never watch his videos knowing they're staged. If millions of kids keep watching him, bad for them, they will eventually grow up or Beast will make an oopsie (letting karma do its job)
Exactly, People here will be like "oh no im not gonna believe what dogpack says blindly" and then believe what this dude says blindly, they just need to see the comments and if they are suporting the video they will also suport him, just following what the crowd says
15 likesyou were 100% hired by mr. beast. yes you criticized him too, but only accepted the minor things so as the make him look just oblivious. when he is a big problem and youre just here for a paycheck.
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come on dude. have some decency
0 likes"uh... yeah I agreed with dogpack first and just because he criticized his reasons (with no one criticizing soggy yet) I hate this guy. also I dont watch mrbeast lol"
0 likes@@InfraredFox5219ironic considering mr beasts fanbase
2 likesChild 💀
0 likessure, sure... hopefully Beast paid you well for this jokefest
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@@Lacewise it's funny, right:) the guy who sells star dust is not capable of paying some YT to do interviews with his employees to fix his picture. He has one the best team of people around him + unlimited funds. People are just blind.
2 likes@@Matthias_Livessomeone at Mr. Beast paid for his flight. Why can’t you guys just admit you jumped the gun and got taken for a ride by a billionaire? It’s surely not the first time.
2 likesHow much money bitchpacked paid yu lil bro 😭😭😭😭😭
3 likesDogPack meatrider
6 likesSoggy provided receipts and neither he nor I like Mr. Beast all that much but the truth is the truth. You can dislike someone without slandering them it is common sense
3 likesI agree mr beast paid him big buckies
4 likesMaybe watch the video he literally doesn’t like both of them
10 likesthis is insane amount of credible journalism. i hope more people see this. until then i'm subscribed for the future.
21 likesSo the worst thing mr beast done is illegal lottery and crypto insider trading or something.
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He’s also being sued for unsafe practises on Amazon show.
0 likesThink it's just what happened during the behind the scene of Beast game but I know it wasn't all of Jimmy's control, he hired many people to make it happen but he still should of focused on Safety.
1 like@@adamusprime403that one was cleared up by the person. Mr beast was using a 3rd party to help with the surgeries and ig he got the dates mixed up
0 likes@@adamusprime403 fair
2 likesId say the lack of paying the eye doctor charity until AFTER it became a large controversy is the worst. It's not evil though, just a sign that they're criminally irresponsible
10 likesYh pretty much but even that is ify
1 likeThis is literally trying to move between serious allegations finding things to slam the messenger for things that have nothing to do with them. Painting a kid who collected things available mostly in the public records that are unjust and scummy as the bad guy, and the billion dollars gambling, junk-food empire for children as the good, innocent guy. Here are some things that MrBeast needs to worry about instead of DogPack:
2 likes- An ex employee whom, years ago, mentioned he would often cuss and scream at him.
- His employee faking his signature for tshirts.
- Inviting a Youtuber to eventually win $500,000 in a competition for which he has pocketed millions by selling products to people who also wanted a chance to participate.
- Promoting gambling, unhealthy foods as good and "healthy" for children.
- Deception for things like giving his employee a car as a gift while he was roleplaying as one of the random participants.
- Constantly lying that his video are "real" and that he puts all his profits back into his videos.
- Gifting random gifts sent out by fans to other fans as lottery tickets for his gambling.
- Including massive destruciton and littering, throwing food around, plates full of food around, sitting on giant cakes to ruin them, creating a ton of videos promoting waste and destruction.
- Faking parts of his philanthropy videos.
Points like "Talking about this hurts the donations" and "There are people dying of wars so you shouldn't mention what happened to you" are extremely narcissistic, manipulative remarks. If we go by them, Jeffrey Epstein should have never been prosecuted, Bill Gates should have never been investigated because they were into donations too.
DogPack404 is a fraud and deceptive disgruntled employee! Cool!
48 likesI appreciate every part of this video EXCEPT the part on Jake Weddle. (The one concession I'll give is the AI recording video, that was unethical and bad practice.) Jake was very explicit when saying that because he was really poor it felt like a hostage situation - he's emotionally bound to stay even though he could technically "just leave" because the money he'd be leaving behind is life-changing. I don't think it's incorrect to compare that to the dynamics of SA. Abusive power dynamics keep people in very traumatising situations despite the option of "just say no" or "just leave" being on the table. I felt like you completely missed the point in that section, but the rest of the video was well done.
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@@CommentCop You see the warcrime bit was just an elaborate Jake Weddle comedy routine. When he compared himself to rape victims, the joke was on you!
2 likesThis comment is so insane lmao, you are comparing an optional challenge to abusers?
1 likeJake is an adult. There is no way for him to guarantee getting that money, this was after all a contest. Saying he was "emotionally bound" is just him being immature and naive. Do you say the same for people who are addicted to the lottery and spend all their money on that for life changing money? No, you call them stupid.
And then you compare this shit to abuse like just fuck off. Abuse has no upsides, you gain nothing from it besides pain and sadness. Comparing that to a challenge to get life changing money, where you can literally leave at any time, with paramedics and safety on standby is just so fucking stupid.
Jake Weddle got paid $10k a day for the challenge despite failing, praised Mr Beast after it then changed his tune when people turned on Mr Beast (AND GOT PAID AGAIN)
7 likesDon’t feel bad for the guy
He only had $50k in student debt. He could have left after just 5 days but insisted on staying. He ended up making over $100k doing no work, blew it all on flights to comedy shows and weed (he says as much himself in his first video), and now still needs handouts from Jimmy to pay off his debt. Dude is pathetic.
3 likes@@officialmonarchmusic do you think shows like alone where people live by themselves for at times months is exploitative? Where there are plenty more dangers. Its no different then real life jobs where people put themselves on the line for money. Military, first responders, pilots,logging workers, etc.
1 like@@avalopeIt’s one thing to only do challenges with financially secure individuals. It’s another to make the contents of the challenge something extremely damaging to the health of the competitors. I’m not saying Squid Game is literally the same thing as Weddle’s confinement, but my point is, where do we draw the line? I do at long term health risks or death risks, which were definitely present in the solitary challenge. I also do just generally think this type of game show is exploitative and people should generally not do it
5 likes@@officialmonarchmusic man vs man deathmatch is a lot different than man vs self. And now should mrbeast only do challenges with financially secure individuals? to avoid accidently having a poor person be emotionally bound to stay.
0 likesYeah, that’s literally what Squid Game was about. Yeah, they could just leave, but it was still wrong to take advantage of them and let them die
8 likesThis entire comment section summed up:
8 likes20% morepegasus videos incoming
80% ”UGHHH STUPID MRBEAST GLAZER THIS VIDEO IS TRASH STOP DEFENDING MRBEAST EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS WRONG, WRONG WRONG!!!!!😡😡😡😡”
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nah its
3 likes10% morepegasus videos incoming
50% I KNEW THAT DOGPACK404 WAS A SCUMBAG
40% Yeah this is absolutely paid by beast and soggy is just a pathetic sellout
Same thing for the 100 boys v girls accusation. If the employees in the video were there to fill in people who tested positive for COVID. If you claimed they were random people but then they weren’t random because some people had covid then that DOEN’T mean that the video wasn’t fake it just means that there was a good reason to fake the video. Which does NOT mean that it wasn’t fake
2 likesthis might be mr beast's response lol, dogpack said a lot of bull, but this soggy guy is avoiding criticizing mr beast when he's obviously not a saint either, it's framed as an unbiased video but it's quite one sided. he had a lot of insider info and contacts (like the interviews), and avoided obvious problems with the beast channel, also tried to make dogpack look like a lunatic , some real KGB stuff
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@shadowed69 YouTube is literally forbidding me from posting my response. I censored half the words, when there already wasn't a singe remotely offensive word. I'm so awfully sick of attempting to communicate with people on this terrible platform.
0 likesIn short, I think it's best for us all to focus on what we can truly interpret and prove, leave speculation in the background. Not a lot of benefit comes from focusing on the unproven and unproveable, generally!
@shadowed69 (Cens0ring to a huge degree bc I'm not allowed to post)
0 likesIt does fully c0me d0wn to c0nspiracy caused by b1as though, that's important to realize even while you are c0mmitted to believing it. There is no ev1dence for that, yet you see it as possible and that leads you to thinking of it as more likely than not. It is inherently not 0bjective and is largely ill0gical, when there is no ev1dence backing it, only a l*ck of things dispr0ving it.
I find it very unlikely he was br1bed by Mr. Be*st, he has had his own chann3l making videos for a l0ng time now, and this is not the first time he is being recognized; he was already reasonably "popular" (for a small Y0uTuber). Sab0taging all that to take a br1be is not impossible, but certainly not the most likely thing for someone to do. And for AI, well there's really no back1ng to that. It's good to be cautious of things, but being too "cautious" leads often to dep@rtures from reality and cl1nging to c0nspiracy. Anything that happens can now be attributed to AI (not really usually, but people think that way and soon will be reality), or someone being p*id off, so it's an easy concept to jump to, and people usually st1ck to those bel1efs and other such things without needing ev1dence. Real sl1ppery slope. I find it best to just focus on what we can see, interpret through facts and real logic, and leave the specul@tion to not be focused on. We can realize there are other possibilities, but to f1xate on the unknown and unpr0ven over what is pr0vable is danger0us. Logic and truth, that's what matters. Not a lot to benefit from when you go beyond that.
(If you got this far, thank you for reading through that mess)
(Cens0ring bc del3ted)
0 likesIt does fully come down to c0nspiracy caused by b1as though, that's important to realize even while you are committed to believing it. There is no evidence for that, yet you see it as possible and that leads you to thinking of it as more likely than not. It is inherently not objective and is largely ill0gical, when there is no evidence backing it, only a lack of things disproving it.
I find it very unlikely he was br1bed by Mr. Beast, he has had his own channel making videos for a long time now, and this is not the first time he is being recognized; he was already reasonably "popular" (for a small YouTuber). Sab0taging all that to take a bribe is not impossible, but certainly not the most likely thing for someone to do. And for AI, well there's really no backing to that. It's good to be cautious of things, but being too "cautious" leads often to departures from reality and clinging to c0nspiracy. Anything that happens can now be attributed to AI (not really usually, but people think that way and soon will be reality), or someone being paid off, so it's an easy concept to jump to, and people usually stick to those beliefs and other such things without needing evidence. Real slippery slope. I find it best to just focus on what we can see, interpret through facts and real logic, and leave the speculation to not be focused on. We can realize there are other possibilities, but to fixate on the unknown and unproven over what is provable is danger0us. Logic and truth, that's what matters. Not a lot to benefit from when you go beyond that.
@shadowed69 (cens0ring bc deleted)
0 likesIt does fully come down to c0nspiracy caused by bias though, that's important to realize even while you are committed to believing it. There is no evidence for that, yet you see it as possible and that leads you to thinking of it as more likely than not. It is inherently not objective and is largely illogical, when there is no evidence backing it, only a lack of things disproving it.
I find it very unlikely he was bribed by Mr. Beast, he has had his own channel making videos for a long time now, and this is not the first time he is being recognized; he was already reasonably "popular" (for a small YouTuber). Sabotaging all that to take a bribe is not impossible, but certainly not the most likely thing for someone to do. And for AI, well there's really no backing to that. It's good to be cautious of things, but being too "cautious" leads often to departures from reality and clinging to c0nspiracy. Anything that happens can now be attributed to AI (not really usually, but people think that way and soon will be reality), or someone being paid off, so it's an easy concept to jump to, and people usually stick to those beliefs and other such things without needing evidence. Real slippery slope. I find it best to just focus on what we can see, interpret through facts and real logic, and leave the speculation to not be focused on. We can realize there are other possibilities, but to fixate on the unknown and unproven over what is provable is dangerous. Logic and truth, that's what matters. Not a lot to benefit from when you go beyond that.
@ratondolce I definitely agree with the "facts board," it was clearly skewed in my eyes when all but 1 (that doesn't even really have to do with dogpack) are marked as false. That is definitely rigging it to support his side better. While it doesn't prove lies, it does show a non-objective and manipulative presentation of information. There is obviously bias, with this and other aspects. Everyone is biased, it's usually truly difficult to be unbiased in an approach, but he certainly could have made it much more fair and objective, yes.
0 likesI still disagree with the notion that this is some 50/50 dogpack and Mr beast video. It really is a dogpack video in my eyes, I think that is the full intent. He approaches dogpack's claims and talks about Mr beast in countering dogpack. It is not a video that focuses on who Mr. Beast is as it's own topic, just a sub topic of talking about Dogpack.
@shadowed69 It does fully come down to conspiracy caused by bias though, that's important to realize even while you are committed to believing it. There is no evidence for that, yet you see it as possible and that leads you to thinking of it as more likely than not. It is inherently not objective and is largely illogical, when there is no evidence backing it, only a lack of things disproving it.
0 likesI find it very unlikely he was bribed by Mr. Beast, he has had his own channel making videos for a long time now, and this is not the first time he is being recognized; he was already reasonably "popular" (for a small YouTuber). Sabotaging all that to take a bribe is not impossible, but certainly not the most likely thing for someone to do. And for AI, well there's really no backing to that. It's good to be cautious of things, but being too "cautious" leads often to departures from reality and clinging to conspiracy. Anything that happens can now be attributed to AI (not really usually, but people think that way and soon will be reality), or someone being paid off, so it's an easy concept to jump to, and people usually stick to those beliefs and other such things without needing evidence. Real slippery slope. I find it best to just focus on what we can see, interpret through facts and real logic, and leave the speculation to not be focused on. We can realize there are other possibilities, but to fixate on the unknown and unproven over what is provable is dangerous. Logic and truth, that's what matters. Not a lot to benefit from when you go beyond that.
@@Walrus101 yeah you are correct about out my phrasing, most of his evidence is not twisted, but as shadowed69 user has put it, and what i also meant to say was that he skewed the whole board in his favor, the premise of ALL(or most) the claims are skewed and nitpicked, he framed most counter-arguments in his/beasts favor even when some of dogpacks accusations weren't entirely false/ or were more a question of morality. otherwise he was being either overly vague or focusing on irrelevant aspects to disprove dogpack whislt ignoring the wrongdoings of mrbeast. if this is a clarification video, shouldn't it go both ways and be UNBIASED?
0 likes(eg. mack situation-no proof, kris tyson situation-he focused on dogpacks false accusations, warcrime situation-"it was initially a joke", employee interview-they claim that they dont use predatory tactics)-
-do any of these disprove nepotism, kris tyson being a weirdo and beast knowing, jake weddle being emotionally scarred whilst partaking from pressure to gain fame/monetary reasons, should we take the employees word about them not using unethical engagement tactics cuz they said "no" ? the answer is NO,
soggy disprove some or most of dogpacks falsified and nitpicked evidence, but ignores the other side of the coin which is Mr Beast
that is dishonest and one sided to me! mr beast is clearly not a good person either.
@@Walrus101 I appreciate it. If this wasn't a youtube comment section, and instead my own YT video I made in response, I would be much more objective with my responses. I'm throwing out these ideas because too many people are blindly believing this guy, and I'm scared of what that means for our society's ability to recognize and fight back corruption. Mr. Beast has had enough provable claims at this point that he should not be forgiven, should not be idolized, and should not have a platform. I want to make sure people don't forget that. I truly believe that he commandeered this video to save his reputation. If that's true, and it's working the way that it is, we are all in a lot of trouble as a whole. Jake Weddle already received an incredibly convincing AI generated video of Mr. Beast propaganda. He made a video on it. A normal person would not be able to tell that it was fake unless the idea was proposed to them. That is why I am making that claim about this video. It doesn't make any sense why we are just hearing this recording now, when it is most convenient. This technology exists, unfortunately, and the motivation to abuse it is there. I wish I could believe that I am just being conspiratorial.
1 like@shadowed69 I wrote a reply to you, you may not have noticed because you were writing this message at the same time.
0 likesI do want to point out something that you should be careful of in yourself, is that you are taking the approach of being very objective and opposing anything that isn't 100% on board or provable, but you have made multiple conspiracy theories with no actual evidence. You should be careful to stick to logic in your own mind, not claim AI conversations and him being literally paid off by Mr. Beast when there is 0 evidence for that. And when you are making your argument to someone else, your emphasis on truth and logic will be undermined by your own departures from fair analysis.
@@Walrus101 idk what points you're trying to make here, but the guy you're replying to said it better than I did so I'm also gonna second that.
1 likeBut to be clear, Dogpack is a bad journalist. Some criticism of how he's handled this situation is deserved. This guy (Soggy) is not trying to constructively criticize Dogpack, he is trying to destroy his character and disassemble every single accusation he made that he can reasonably get away with. He only criticized Mr. Beast on the easy, soft things that would be stupid to try to disprove, because then everyone would know he's just been paid by Beast to make this video.
@@shadowed69 I'm sure he skewed the video in his favor with the "claims board" yes, that was clear to me. When you put up 20+ things and say all of them are false (except one that doesn't even really have to do with Dogpack at this point), it's clear there are details being left out which were not able to be disproven, or some were picked apart/changed a bit to be more easily called wrong.
0 likesI think AI accusation is a bit ridiculous without any evidence. He has shown he has these sources. Dogpack could easily disprove it or argue against it at least.
For "Delaware," he knew the guy had a history but Delaware made an explanation? I didn't know about that, but if so, he probably simply believed it. Anyone could and he was very young too. I really don't understand any argument being made that he would knowingly hire a RSO. Whether Mr. Beast is an angel or a money hungry conman, he would never in 1000 years want to do that. It would only cause him risk for no reasonable benefit accounting.
I never see anyone online create a 100% bulletproof argument. Everyone is fueled by bias and can skew things because of that. So yes, this video isn't perfect, and people shouldn't blindly listen to everything, but it's a good expose on Dogpack, who everyone blindly believed when it was obvious he was manipulating, because people wanted to believe him. I was one of the ONLY people calling out his manipulation in his original video/s while everyone blindly took what they were fed. This video is important, and certainly seems more right than wrong.
@@ratondolce I don't even need to read the rest of your message to know you're heavily biased (but I will) when you say that literally ALL of his his points are twisted. That absolutely is not true at all. You seem to want it to be that way.
0 likesIt doesn't matter what the title is, the theme and intent of the video is clear from the content. He isn't weighing both or doing arguments on both, he is countering Dogpack points while saying some things from Mr. Beast are off in the process.
I don't see any real evidence that Soggy is being dishonest or that his arguments are affected heavily by bias. I'm sure he has a bias, that is likely from his countering all but 1 of Dogpack's points (1 that people agree on regardless of Dogpack) but most of what he says is legitimate and provable/sound arguments. You are saying he is dishonest, when I feel like you should be saying you don't think his argument is 100% provable.
I don't even really understand the "warcrimes" issue and seems silly. For CGI, he disproved claims of CGI and it CGI manipulating things; the intent was never to say there is no CGI, right? The address makes sense to not give info on, but of course you can't take him saying he has the info as absolute fact. Don't think he said anything against Mr. Beast and child psychology?
@@Walrus101 No, I think many things in this video are biased and manipulative. I can't copy paste a giant message like that explaining everything without getting banned. I made my own comment with more explanations if you can find it.
1 likeattempted summary:
-aggressive, nitpicky defamation of dogpack. fills the board with "all of dogpack's claims" (that is not anywhere near all of them, and many claims are only cherry-picked portions that he can X out so it looks like he disproved everything form dogpack by the end
-way to much focus on small points that he frames as terrible awful things (like yeah, obviously it wasn't literally a warcrime. what happened to Jake was still fucked up??)
-convenient recording of Dogpack's termination that's only showing up now for some reason. almost as if it didnt exist before and this is AI.
-convenient interviews of current Mr. Beast employees that support their narrative despite no other journalist getting the chance to do that up until this point.
-plenty more but i have a life and cannot keep explaining to people why they need to question the weird things that manipulative people like this guy do instead of blindly believing him
As far as Occam's razor, it's because he believed the guy's story. And it's certainly possible that Delaware truly didn't commit the crime and just took a plea deal.
However, subjecting your child audience to that risk is a WHOLLY irresponsible and disgusting thing to do, no matter how good his story sounded. Mr. Beast "was young and dumb" except his more mature mother also approved it. Then he hid is face in a vid years later under a mask, knowing exactly how much of a problem it could be that he had Delaware in that video.
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3 likesthe topic is "the truth about mrbeast & dogpack404", not "disproving everything dogpack said"
all of his claims are twisted or nitpicked in one way or another. he’s trying to deliberately disprove them instead of looking at them from an unbiased perspective. he’s already made up his mind, creating his own counter-accusations, and is just trying to prove those instead of being fully transparent. the whole thing feels pretty suspicious to me.
take jake weddle’s suffering, for instance. he had “was it a war crime” or something along those lines on the board and then claimed that the “war crime” part was just a joke. but technically, even if it was said as a joke, that doesn’t mean it couldn’t still be true. does that make jake’s suffering any less real?
then there’s soggy’s response to the “mack” situation: “mack lived at a fellow editor’s house. i have the documents, but i can’t show you—trust me.” that’s pretty much all he says to dismiss the entire mack story.
beast might’ve gotten rid of delaware, but he definitely kept lacoya in the company even after knowing about his actions or criminal cases.
kris tyson: there are hundreds of be real discord messages proving that mrbeast was aware of tyson’s servers and behavior.
then there’s the “child psychology” issue. it’s clearly still a harmful practice, even if dogpack partook in it/ the employees insists it’s “for all ages.” “all ages” obviously includes children—and probably more than “just includes” in a pretty deliberate way.
many beast videos use CGI or are doctored for dramatic effect. is that a problem? that’s up to you as the viewer. but soggy didn’t actually disprove dogpack’s claims; he just nitpicked a few cases where CGI represented the actual thing, or where footage was slightly doctored instead of outright fake.
he did criticize mrbeast but only slightly. the whole thing seems like a constant attack and denigration of dogpacks character, and his dishonest and exaggerated accusations about mr beast based on barely any evidence. meanwhile soggy’s counter-accusations mostly rely on a couple of message testimonies and interviews from (weirdly enough) current mrbeast employees. whilst up to this date there has been absolutely no official statement or response issued by the Beast team/ company/ the man himself till now (them being real careful with their response).So it feels like the employees have all been PR-trained on exactly what to say (or not say). mrbeast isn’t some saint, either.
dogpack was dishonest, but so was this soggy guy! trust no one!
@@shadowed69 This is 100% where Occam's Razor needs to be pulled out.
1 likeWHY would he knowingly hire a RSO? That would bring huge controversy to him and loss of income and create problems. WHY would he? The guy is just so desirable to the brand that he is willing to do it? I'm sure that can't be the case.
Do you have any explanation for why he would knowingly do that? You do have any proof it was known before hiring?
And are you defending Dogpack, or just contesting this one thing? You think Soggy--according to you--rewriting one detail makes this illegitimate and Dogpack honest? Or what's up?
@@shadowed69cornball copy pasting the comment everywhere
1 like@@shadowed69you mean he is straight up giving us the true information of what actually happened?
2 likes@@Walrus101 He straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
3 likesHe deadass criticized mr beast in the video multiple times 😭
1 likeNice conspiracy theory that he is an agent of Mr. Beast lmao... Where do random allegations like that get us? Certainly not conducive to true and honest thought and discussion...
2 likesThe purpose of his video is to discredit Dogpack for his lies, he doesn't need to "criticize mr beast" when that would distract from the topic.
Yeah this guy seems full of shit too
2 likesDogpacks whole arguement relies on the fact that no one does their own research and it’s kinda sad that basically no one did tell now
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@@shadowed69he literally said mrbeast should take responsibility for the mistake he made and even cut the music and answered with a clear "YES"🤦🏾♂️ bru yall are actually so baffling to listen to
1 likeSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
7 likesits funny how this genuine and factual video gets less views because he isnt clickbaiting and spreading interesting lies like dogpack is
33 likeslove the video man
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It'll catch on eventually cuz of the drama channels
0 likesit took a while for dogpacks video to take off too
0 likes@@zoomedcheese Maybe people are still frustrated about Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul that's why people aren't interesting in another MrBeast drama right now
3 likesMaybe it’s only been out for a few hours and dog pack isn’t even close to mrbeast popularity
4 likesCorpo youtube strikes back
5 likesThere can still be a part 2 of Mr Beast content cop lol. Just cuz mr beast wasnt actively evilmaxxing, doesnt mean mr beast hasnt done evil stuff.
13 likesi downloaded this video for posterity
12 likesHow you're downplaying the Jake Weddle stuff is bad. So what if the warcrimes comment is a joke? It was still abuse and severe mistreatement! Makes me not want to watch the rest of this, Weddle is still a victim and it's gross how much you're trying to downplay that.
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@@gernil6216 I read your longer message that starts with "Again, not everyone is perfect", I hope that was the message you intended to send, youtube comments are so annoying with stuff like that so I get you lol
3 likes@@m0nkeywrench .. don't tell me my message didn't get sent and didn't copy paste an extremely long comment
0 likes@@m0nkeywrench hmm yeah an interesting situation, I just checked what challenge did he go through, but didn't know the whole situation beforehand, I don't spend much exploring on the allegations like these to worth my own time in my life. Unfortunately, this means Soggy didn't consider this part, but also is very hard to notice among all other allegations presented in the internet to disprove. But like also then, how can you trust such individual when he himself tells his side of the story while aiming to DEFAME Mrbeast with dawson?
0 likesI dugged through their replies and comment, like the comment Dogpack404 made on Jakeweddle's "i caught Jimmy in a secret recording" video, it made me disgusted what he and jake said. That apparently jake 'deserves' the $190k (which now we know he's a complete deceptive liar about mrbeast, considering this, what they said 'deserve' what intended for the opposite reason, money) He said "I think you should get the full $190k. Jimmy privately offering you money to "make things right" is a clear admission of guilt. I hope you get all the money you deserve though and then some more." and jake also pushes his support in confirming his 'guilt' which he said "I appreciate you dude. Yes, he admitted guilt. THATS the real thing we are all over looking here 😏". And you know what Jake did with the 50k money? Watch Lerix's video on Jake Weddle video over 1 minute, where the irony in what he uses that money was shown and spends for his personal gains rather than he claimed to spend it on 'his bills'. You should know now he doesn't care as much, knows the truth but the intention of defaming mrbeast and getting money, the stories he narrates can be exxagerated and fabricated like "he was sitting on a chair and turning around like an evil villian." or "deep blisters under my foot". Although considering the past challenges traumatic enough, consider tho Jimmy's team are likely less experienced to perceive the actual dangerous level of risk in this kind of specific challenge, despite the risk being clouded by the seemingly visually fine environment, his people can't know the inside perspective of jake undergoing this challenge. We people can't go in the past, informing past self the mistakes, the complete risks being fully unaware, etc. especially for other things jimmy has done like the first illegal lottery which almost no one in that time including the crew knew it was illegal. And you also know how Jake likes to get himself money? Well he has such reasons why he partook these challenges, the treadmill one, the solitary confinement, all for possibly the money, getting to the point where he doesn't i guess mentally embraces staying the longest time for more money, instead of being strategic with how to be sane or simply leave if it was too much. Could be that maybe his greediness made him so desperate with using a poor approach on how to stay long, up to the point where mental capacity was at its limit (while jimmy's team are inexperienced for running these challenges) finally gave up, seemingly jimmy and the crew didn't saw how traumatic it was for him with maybe an expression broken enough not to express emotion. I assumed maybe 11 days was too short for a mrbeast 100 day video and the second mrbeast contestant was qualified to succeed the challenge. Well, this proves overall his situation, some are not in actuality when there are these mentioned possibilities, to consider the idea what may have happened. I don't think it's his fault having to end up in a malicious position due to the nature of this world and nature of people, now jake unfortunately sucks as a scumbag.
Now if you read the entire thing, you could see some negligence upon reading them, that I may not see myself, which is an important point I want to emphasis
@@gernil6216 I get where you're coming from, when I say he has 0 nuance in his take I'm talking about the Weddle situation specifically, alot of the video does a good job and yeah props to Soggy for not being one of those shitty drama-bait channels that come out with the most sensationalist stuff without backing it up.
3 likesIt just rubbed me the wrong way when he dismissed the Weddle situation as just a dude volunteering for a challenge where he had a complete free choice to leave, because it doesn't take into account the peer pressure, the monetary pressure, the pressure of the work environement, the team around him downplaying the extreme nature of the challenge (this is stuff that was said in the interview by Jake, how he says people were saying 'oh it's just gonna be like a fun vacation' to get him to do it) and the clear lack of any safety precautions & lack of professional standards in a potentially very dangerous challenge.
@@m0nkeywrench You might need to refresh and reread my comment again after a bunch of editing for improved grammatical context
0 likes@@m0nkeywrench Again, not everyone is perfect, including their takes on situation. Even I don't understand what the word "nuance" is and what is considered nuanced. And I don't also understand what criticisms you are referring to, dojn't understand how actual 'downplay' in your definition was visually shown, as you saw what downplay was acted through, but other people me or even soggy cereal wouldn't even see the downplay. How can this be indicative and naturally be clearly concerning for other people to know (which they have different perspective) from what you're currently understanding? and do they really matter to these perhaps small instances? Do some of the criticisms you saw could affect the victims if downplayed? Not so easy, even Soggy cereal himself completely believed the 'concerning' statement of Camnugget at 32:32 that he 'watching minors b*tthole' when he was actually reporting the mods to a minor doing that in a discord, and soggy in twitter dumbly thought his phrasing in actuality and said "i think you'd notify a mod that a minor is showing explicit bodyparts on cam in a more... serious manner". Thankfully, he did remove that misinformation and covering cam's false implication expressed in the video which is which you can't see such statement i provide in the timestamp. No one is perfect to be ashamed of having such dismissing belief or action or thought or anything.
0 likes@@AaronSmith-rm9kl I'd argue that most people would break under those circumstances, but yeah agreed, having a medical team and some sort of psychology professional would have been the bare minimum for such an extreme challenge.
2 likes@ that’s true they probably should have done a mental stability test to check if he was actually up for the challenge
0 likes@@AaronSmith-rm9kl Agreed that is kinda over the top, but I'm getting tired of Weddle being held to the standard of "perfect victim", especially considering when he says that in the interview you can clearly see he's reliving some trauma while talking about it, like the nervous laughs and jokes & being on the verge of tears, so it's understandable that he wouldn't be 100% clear with his words.
2 likes@@gernil6216 Yeah I agree that Dogpack needs to be held to a higher standard and investigated for his false accusations, but this video goes way too far the other direction where he downplays alot of the legit critisisms aswell. I'm tired of Youtubers having 0 nuance in their takes, you know?
3 likes@@CloudDirected Except those shows (at least the non-scummy ones) inform their contestants in a non biased manner of the severity and possible health implications of the challenges, they have medical teams on standby in case of an injury, they have proper contracts, and are generally WAY more professional than MrBeast.
1 likeLike seriously, say the producers of Survivor or whatever were constantly pressuring the contestants like "Ohh man if you quit now that's all this money wasted on the TV show!" That would rightfully be called out as scummy, and I'd call out any reality show that did that. (And I absolutely despise the TV shows that have done this kinda shit)
And it's clear in the interview that the people around Weddle were constantly downplaying the severity of the challenge, selling it to him as a "fun vacation with an ice cream machine and stuff!". Again, imagine if a legit TV show did this. It would rightfully be a scandal.
I agree that these sorts of extreme challenges are ok to do for entertainement, but it needs to be WAY more professional than how it was handled with Weddle.
@@intothevoid9831 Stop clutching your pearls at my mention of abusive relationships, I wasn't implying it was on the same level of severity as them, I was using it as a comparison to show how outside influences and pressures can distort that "free choice" into a coersive and manipulative one.
2 likesBecause he's doing this video for MrBeast while lying about being impartial. If you can't see that this video is a thinly veiled MrBeast meatride glazefest, then you're blind. All of the top comments are pro MrBeast and pro-this vid. You've got to scroll a bit before the impartiality appears. I'm not saying that DogPack was 100% accurate, but it was much more accurate than this video is making it look. This is video is damage control and an attack from MrBeast and his fans are lapping it up without admitting it.
0 likesNot everyone is perfect and knows all the right ways of addressing or expression, or knows all the right perspectives over the unknown. The point of this video is Dogpack404's massive slander, and it's now clear he's lying in most of the case.
0 likes@@oldwellenthusiast8750 Cope harder.
0 likesSaid it once and I'll say it again. What Beast did was no different than what Reality TV shows such as Survivor, Fear Factor, Dog Eat Dog, and Jackass have done. You suffer for money. If you're gonna cancel Beast, go ahead and cancel those Reality TV shows. Nobody has complained about them for decades. It's only when Beast does it that everyone gets up in arms.
1 likethat's bcus this is a propaganda piece with an obvious bias, it is good enough for his kid viewers
2 likes@@m0nkeywrenchcomparing an intentionally tough challenge for good cash to toxic relationship is a real bad faith argument. The guy was also still gonna collect the money he accumulated even if he left, and was even offered money after the challenge
0 likesHe is not a victim lmfao he consensually agreed to participate in a challenge and was paid 10k a day to do so, and was free to quit or stop at any time. Also, comparing a mr beast challenge to an abusive relationship is incredibly bad faith, these things are not even remotely comparable. Totally distorting the scenario here.
3 likes@@m0nkeywrenchcomparing himself to a victim of a war crime is crazy tho
5 likes@@godartz3064 I'm using it as a comparison to show how there are coersive elements around that so called "free choice" that influence your decisions. And to ignore the fact that Jake was an employee, was struggling financially and everyone around him in the company egged him on is such a scummy reductive take.
15 likesLike if you've worked any job ever, you know exactly the feeling Jake expressed in his interview. And all the clowns saying "just leave bro" are clearly either children who have never worked a day in their life or extremely priviledged adults who don't now what it's like to have crippling expenses & actually NEED money & a job to survive.
@ not really it’s not the same your in a challenge where u are getting paid the point of a challenge is to be challenging if you can’t handle it simply leave challenge excuse me if I don’t feel sympathy for someone who is getting paid thousands of dollars for a challenge he can literally leave any time vs someone in a relationship with someone who they believe have their best interests in heart taking advantage of them it’s not the same thing don’t try to compare them to make your argument sound better
7 likes@@godartz3064 That's like saying "Just leave the abusive relationship bro" or "Just leave the cult bro", braindead take.
24 likesHe a grown ahh man leave the challenge 💀
7 likesWhat are changes we'll see this guy in a MrBeast video soon 🙄
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Wouldn't be a surprise, he loves to treat his puppies well
2 likesim 100% anti mr beast, 99% is because hes rich and im poor. I like seeing the other side of things tho, thank you for this video
15 likesEdit: im an hour into the video now, i am still anti mr beast for the same reason...me being a poor...but my opinion on dogpack has changed for sure. again, thank you for this video. i always knew there was more to the story, and lots of things in his videos seemed fishy and i questioned it.
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Well at least your honest about it. I like your moxxy
3 likesCool and all, but the very first two things are literally just you straw manning the claims.
11 likesSure, maybe Delaware wasn't a p3do, but you know who was? Ava Kris Tyson. You don't just buy from and promote someone who is famous for making "graphics" of l0lis. You don't just hang up that art in your living room and say, "Beautiful masterpiece!" And as for Mr. Beast, him being friends with someone like Tyson while also running a family friendly YouTube channel is completely contradictory.
Then as for the war crimes, you're missing the point that Weddle was still forced to do unspeakable things (such as running a marathon and being blinded by lights 24/7). Just because "It's not a war crime!" Doesn't make it right. Especially for someone like Mr. Beast, who is known for being an 'awesome stand up dude'.
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@@intothevoid9831 Mr Beast knew for a LONG time and only removed Ava once the cat was actually out of the bag and everyone knew. There's multiple points of evidence for this, but the most solid piece of evidence showing Mr Beast knew was the picture of the l0li literally hung up in Mr Beast's own living room.
1 likeAnd as for Weddle, you're right, he wasn't literally forced to do the things, but Weddle himself explains with how everything was going and how the situation was, he felt obligated to do those things. And he literally asked for the lights to be turned off, to which he was flat out denied approval to.
Mr Beast removed Ava off the company after they found out. What else were they supposed to do?
0 likesWeddle was NOT forced. He could quit any time he wanted.
The video starts with one of Mr.Beast's manager saying Dawson was ruining the company's reputation... Couldn't he find someone a little bit less biased?
5 likesI agree with you that dogpack is definitely untrustworthy and has been spreading lies and allegations against Mr. Beast hoping one of them lands to discredit him.
11 likesHowever, I see that you then use the SAME TACTICS that dogpack did by spreading allegations against dogpack to discredit him.
Which is why I find you very hypocritical.
This is seen clearly with interviewing his coworker. She said that when working with dogpack he kept things "cordial and professional", but then accuses him of making her "uncomfortable". However, I notice that you cut out the clip of what she said afterwards, which I wonder why. She then says dogpack gave her "weird vibes", but doesn't elaborate further at all. This leads me to believe that she is purposely trying to make Dawson seem like a creep to discredit him. Perhaps being told by management to do this.
Also, it is clear to me that you are also on board with discrediting Dogpack. I say this bc you then asked her about "any weird stories about things Dogpack did" which the coworker then called about him saying some food is s***. First of all, why is this relevant to Dogpacks' accusations and the video? Secondly, why should us viewers care about what food Dogpack *allegedly, used profanity for? How does this contribute to the video, it is just irrelevant to the discussion? It seems like a very dirty attempt to make him look bad for something that has NOTHING to do with the video.
You accuse Dogpack of spreading malicious lies against Mr. Beast, when Lo and Behold, you then DO THE SAME THING by asking for rumors about Dogpack and showing it to millions of people.
Lastly, I want to say that while Dustin felt bad for Jake and what Jake went through definitely wasn't a war crime- IT WAS STILL UNETHICAL AND UNACCEPTABLE. And Dustin and Mr. Beast still have not taken responsibility for the abuse he went through. In fact, in this video Dustin BLAMED Jake for not being cut out for the challenge, instead of the unethical practices.
Like how on Earth can u say Jake wasn't the right person for the video when NO HUMAN BEING can run a marathon while being sleep deprived and starved due to bad caretaking? Dustin deflects all blame on Mr.Beast for the conditions Jake went through.
This video shows me that Dogpack cannot be trusted, but you can't be either.
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@ermtosis that's because he debunked dogpack
0 likeshe also didn’t mention the beast game and team sea things
1 likeEmployees are the most trustworthy source we have, we can't know if they lie or not, it's impossible. Unlike dogpack who has been proven to manipulate and make false allegations and therefore isn't trustworthy, dogpack also didn't wait for research to finish unlike soggy
1 likeyoure onto nothing lil bro lol, the probably only and biggest fumble soggy did in the video you didnt catch because as soon as he realized his mistake he removed it from the video unlike DogPack that kept the false video up for like a month. The rest of the BS youre ranting about, if it was relevant enough im pretty sure he would address it, stop reaching
2 likesUPDATE: More Pegasus was planning to interview MrBeast online, but MrBeast dodged it in the last minute according to More Pegasus’ recent new community post.
2 likesGood job this is why you take these types of allegations with a grain of salt. Especially if the person worked there for only a month and openly admitted he was a disgruntled employee in his video.
21 likesNot to mention Jimmy still hasn't released his side of the story, but I guess now he doesn't really have to since legal action is already in the works. But I had no idea he was a Mr. Beast fanboy prior to becoming an employee. Now it kinda makes a bit more sense why he's going after him and not monetizing any of it. It's just petty revenge cause he got fired.
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The fact that this is the only real comment with nuance and most are just a joke is upsetting to me thanks for posting this
3 likesWhat if THIS Video is Fake??? What is everything is faked?? Nothing is real. Still not worth my energy in doing my own research though.
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@@dantdmfangamingrich9802 The only real comment.
0 likesWAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP
0 likes@@dantdmfangamingrich9802 no way, Dogpack is still much worse person, if the crypto scam was confirmed then Mrbeast still much worser.
0 likesSounds like a generic quote for checking your sanity in a video game
0 likesMoral of the story: Both MrBeast and DogPack are bad people. DogPack should be off the internet and Jimmy should be in prison with Chris
8 likesNice dogpack quote
5 likesHow do I know if you're not fake Sammy?
8 likesDOGPACK IS OVER.
9 likesIf you're going to include an interview with someone and are trying to present it as impartial, then you need to not ask leading questions. All of the questions you asked were yes or no questions. None of the statements being made (starting at 7:00) came out of Garrett's mouth, they came out of yours. This is a really poor way to frame questions and makes it sound like you're feeding him a narrative.
4 likesFor instance, instead of asking "So was the entire call basically just rumors you were talking about with a friend?", the way to ask a proper question would be "How would you characterize that call?" You need to let him explain the answer, instead of doing it for him within the question itself. I was getting flashbacks to JAR "interviewing" Synnibear with every question you asked him.
jesus, you have come so far soggy, keep it up! hopefully this video gets the attention it deserves
13 likeslets go another essay grabbing my popcorn
18 likesno shit, NPCS loved jumping on the cancel bandwagon.. dogpack is obviously a very smart but very unstable psycho that got fired within 2 weeks lol.
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Although apparently not smart enough to know that most of what he said can get him into legal troubles
1 likeThis is what me and other have been saying since the drama began, it’s nice to finally see other people acknowledging this as well.
2 likesWhole lot of character assassination and not much substance against the claims he makes, your evidence for debunking claims is “trust me bro”, or look at this current employee working for Mr beast, surely they won’t have a reason to lie.
4 likesNone of this or Dawsons claims will matter in a few months anyway. Life goes on
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@ yea I do feel bad for Garrett
0 likesDawsons lies has ruined a bunch of peoples reputations in the process. Life may go on for you, but for the people in the crossfire, maybe not
1 like@@joshuahsimons9587he claimed it was illegal, which it is not
2 likesnot claims very fraudelent and slanderous things
0 likesHow is faking signatures which is on video a CLAIM
1 likeYeah fr. This drama ain't gonna stay that long.
1 like"DogPack404 just ended his career"
11 likesMorePegasus new video probably
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@@arielperez3613 I'm waiting for her response to defend her puppy against Soggy. It's going to be a blast, like the Nicholas DeOrio livestream meltdown.
0 likesWhat career? The only one who had a career besides exposing MrBeast was Rosanna Pansino
0 likesI don't think Pegasus gonna milk Dogpack situation since he is a small YouTuber
0 likes*ALTERNATE TITLE
20 likes“ soggy cereal DOMINTATES submissive dogpack
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0/10 no gone wrong in the title
0 likesBRUH
0 likesAyo 🤨?
0 likesWrong site
8 likesW title
1 likeWhen the random person you dislike for no reason gets exposed, so now you can shit on them
2 likesHere's a hot take: Both suck? But Mr Beast has a much bigger audience and thus bears responsibility.
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Yes so true therefore it’s totally fine for dogpack to lie and manipulate the truth to further smear him
1 likeYou’re incredible. I’ve known for months that Dawson wasn’t to be trusted, and I’m so glad it’s finally coming out.
11 likesI don't really care about Dogpack's character or motivations, what is much more compelling is the rot in a billion dollar institution like Mr.Beast and the platform that enables and relies on him.
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@@g_ggle-sect. probably to see which accusations were true, considering how extreme some of them were (not defending mr breast, no way that guy has a skeleton-less closet)
0 likesThen why are you on this video at all if you don't even care?
2 likesMrBeast should pay you $100k.
6 likesIt was so obvious that Dogpack was just a bitter employee and a quest for vengeance. IT WAS SO OBVIOUS FROM THE START.
9 likesMan downplayed the whole Delaware situation and Jake Weddle's situation. And the fact that Mrbeast commented here makes it very sus
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Yeah I do agree with a lot of points in this video but I don’t like how he downplayed the whole Jake weddle situation. Even if he agreed to it it’s still bad because MrBeast was exploiting his desperation for money for entertainment .
0 likes@@Robokoop4000 care to explain why MrBeast paid for Soggy's trip?
1 likeEven though I'm neutral, I definitely think that soggy was paid by mrbeast.
3 likes@@yano0734 Do you have a mental disability?
2 likes@@yano0734 you are stupid asf if you are actually asking that question
4 likes@@Robokoop4000 speaking of credibility, why did MrBeast only comment on videos that support him?
10 likesOh, but the fact that dogpack got fired after 20 days of working there makes him credible?
9 likesDidn’t even watch 6 mins of the video and I already wanna take back my previous comments from soggy’s last video. This is extremely well made and I am known for being quite gullible and believing a lot of stuff on the internet. Maybe I have to stop worshipping YouTubers thinking they’re nice people. 😅
34 likesEdit: just finished the entire video. And wow. Just wow.
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im also gullible😞
2 likesthe commentary channels are going to be fed by this for 10 millenniums
1 likeThe problem with having nearly all the world's information at our fingertips is people have become so lazy to search if something if something said is true.
9 likes23:50 I love how he says "A LOT OF YOUTUBERS" when all the video are from MorePegasus
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Bro is so dumb 😭🙏🏻
2 likesThe takeaway from this is that MrBeast, as a top channel, uses classic tricks to squeeze attention and money out of its audience (that's what it takes to stay in top youtube), but is careful to remain as ethical and legal as possible. Although Jimmy has made some questionable decisions and mistakes, Dogpack is a manipulative asshole who cherry-picks "evidence" so he can push his opinions onto others, under the fake authority of having insider information as an ex-Beast employee
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@@tobiasbayer4866 it's a prison challenge, not a luxurious day spa challenge. What do you expect from maximum security challenge to feel like? He got himself into the challenge and came out crying about it like Jimmy forced him.
0 likesBeside didn't he got 50k from it already?
@@tobiasbayer4866 it's a prison challenge, not a luxurious day spa challenge. What do you expect from maximum security challenge to feel like?
0 likesHe got himself into the challenge and came out crying about it like Jimmy forced him.
Besides didn't he get 50k from it already?
@@tobiasbayer4866 it's a prison challenge, not a luxurious day spa challenge. What do you expect from maximum security challenge to feel like?
0 likesHe got himself into the challenge and came out crying about it like Jimmy forced him.
Beside didn't he got 50k from it already?
@@tobiasbayer4866 But that person accepted the challenge and has the right to leave whenever they want. So why didn't they?
0 likesNot to mention, he took advantage of the Chris 'Ava' Tyson drama to boost himself, with some even crediting him for exposing Chris over the PDF/grooming accusations (even though he wasn't the one exposing Ava).
1 likeI think this is a lesson the internet needed to learn.
2 likesI feel so stupid, thank you for making this video! So crazy to think that if dogpack acted less horribly to you, this video probably wouldn't have been made.
13 likesIs this video shadowbanned or something? Why is this so underviewed?
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@@jeffjefforson1435 it takes only like few hours for all the drama channels to come out like flies towards like one thing about this stuff. No one responded to this from their socials and there's so much less noise about this in internet. 😅
1 like@@Queef_Storm yeah probably
1 likeCuz none of the drama channels have made videos on it
0 likesBad thumbnail and title. Looks like a regular slop video about Mr Beast. No one is clicking that.
2 likesThey can't handle the truth, it hurt their ego more
2 likes@@agentwesker5237 I mean, I was expecting this video to be a huge talk in this community considering how much this drama is being milked out. It's been a day and no commentary channel is responding to this. I'm just curious
1 like@@gekkouga2828 maybe just give it another day
0 likes@@RiskySandwich considering how important this video is in this drama stuff, this was supposed to be blown up. It's been a day and literally no one is talking about this
1 likethe video is only a day old
2 likesIdk maybe coz dogpack doesn't have a fraction of fame compared to mrbeast, Not defending dogpack but mrbeast definitly has done shady crap with so many of his old employees being fired and him being best friends with a pedo
7 likesPenguinz0 monotone reaction incoming. Can't wait for TomDark, PyroLive, and MorePegasus to milk this "insane situation" for weeks on end.
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Tom has been critical of dogpack ever since the James Warren false accusation
2 likesIt’s free money
3 likesDogpack situation is insane 🤓
4 likesDogpack situation is crazy 🤓
It's OVER 🤓
It's DOGOVER! 🤓
who am i going to trust? a random guy saying mr beast is a fraud and saying all of the claims he makes are true or someone i've been subscribed to for almost a year
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@@iatianegsok
0 likespfp sums up icel
1 likeI DONT KNOW WHAT TO BELIVE ANYMORE😭
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@@RealHumanPersonOnEarth i feal that both sides is lacing and thats not good.
1 likeDo your own research but soggy makes alot of good points, I personally think both sides are morally grey, mr beast is a scumbag but so is dogpack
11 likesEven tho dog pack lied I still hate MrBeast
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@@epicgam3r737 before anyone say anything I’m not on anyone’s side I’m completely neutral on everything going on I just make a comment every now and I just hate people blaming others for something they didn’t do
2 likes🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
0 likesDon’t blame him for other people coping him
3 likesYeah, me too mate. I still hate him. He ruined YouTube and still can't take any criticism.
8 likesHe made Logan Paul win by cheating in one of the challenge.
9 likesHe constantly changed terms during the live stream of T-shirt giveaway
He should add disclaimer that for safety reason they do change some things n videos are 90% real.
Many other things against him u left out..
Sad that this video isn't getting as many views as dogpacks.
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it was 3 days ago 😭
0 likesThe amount of logical fallacies and manipulative tactics in this video is crazy. I’m not out here supporting dogpack but god damn, this video is an ass expose. The lack of evidence and the mistreatment of any investigative process is stunning
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I know right? The 2nd thing he said about the war crimes is straight up just straw manning the entire thing. Soggy's main defense for that ENTIRE segment was that "it wasn't a war crime!"
0 likesSure, but that doesn't mean that Mr Beast is in the clear lmao, and it doesn't disprove Dogman or Weddle in any way either
Also there's proof for the two people in these replies saying "name one"
This feels like cope
0 likesName an example.
1 likeWhat are you trying to say?
0 likesName one
4 likesDon’t let this distract you from the fact Jon Jones has ducked Francis and Tom and shouldn’t be considered the goat of the ufc.
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fr bro. dude's a cheat and doesn't deserve to be called goat of anything except hit&runs maybe
3 likes👍
0 likes1:08 heh.… I guess you can say he found a “dollar in the woods”
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That was so bad....😭
1 likeI don’t get it!
1 likeI smell a “rise and fall of Dogpack404” coming
2 likes1:25:15 Out of all of these, only a few allegations remain.
14 likes-Faking Philanthropy videos
-Crypto Scam
-Only 1 illegal lottery (probably a mistake, but it was still bad that MrBeast didn't do anything to fix it until this day) And also MrBeast constantly changing the winners during his live streams was unacceptable.
He put both a cross and a tick on Jake Weddle?
-Beast Games Drama and mistreating contestants (no longer an allegation, the MrBeast team admitted that it was true). But the team said that they are working to resolve the issue.
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@@LoonyCleo Source? Problem?
0 likes@@TheTruePeoplez No
0 likes@@LoonyCleo guy below me stole my words. True
0 likes@@LoonyCleosource😊
0 likesBonus one: giving adderall to his employees so they can work longer hours
0 likes@@vxzdzd121 I don't think he would ever fake those. I don't remember those ever being under fire
0 likes@@TheTruePeoplez which video are you talking in about
0 likes@@vxzdzd121 It only addressed MrBeast's normal videos not his Philanthropy videos.
2 likesDidn't the video literally adress the first one?
0 likesBro, this new title and thumbnail still ain’t it… It still looks like just another Mr Beast allegations coverage video like everyone else has done. It needs to be something like “DogPack404 lied to you and I have the proof” with Dawson’s face in the thumbnail.
9 likesFeel like this video did way more research than DogPack404, why so many people hating?
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they just really want mrbeast to be an evil villain for whatever reason..
0 likesthey just really want mrbeast to be an evil villain for whatever reason..
0 likesthey are upset that they fail for a narrative.
8 likesThank you for pointing out the fake UI it was bugging me that no one was talking about it.
2 likesi would disagree with your part on illegal lottery 2#. i know its ok for the employee to use mrb’s sig if he allowed. but he didn’t mention to the ppl who purchased the shirt that this happened and say that the shirt had mrb’s sig written by mrb and a member not a member did both of that. this would cause misconception upon buyers or people who want to sell it for profit
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@@naganut9718 And there's still other challenges that he presented as being valid and not staged when they were.
0 likes@sontho6995 the "it being true" still held. There's multiple evidence in this videos that the challenges that are "fake" can be easily debunked
0 likes@@naganut9718 "Mr Beast isn't a gameshow" That's ironic cuz of his upcoming Amazon reality competition series. Him going out of his way to say that his competition videos are true, not staged, not edited is what led to this.
0 likes@@sontho6995 yeah, Mr Beast isn't a gameshow. He's gonna have parts of his challenges that can be seemingly not fair. But its still not a highly imbalance that can ruin the whole challenge. Just a slight advantage or disadvantage
0 likes@@naganut9718 Mentioning imbalance about a YouTuber's challenge videos doesn't work when there isn't any proper regulations about game shows on youtube, in fact there's little law regulations about what gets uploaded on the internet. No TV show can get away with the stuff Mr beast does because of things like the FCC.
0 likes@@sontho6995 its still isn't overly imbalanced though?
0 likes@@naganut9718Then he can't declare his challenges are fair and not scripted when they are.
0 likes@Silas276 MrBeadt challlenges isn't always gonna be 100% fair. They're gonna have one or the other teams at a disadvantage to make the challenge interesting. I don't see anything wrong with that
0 likes@@erikshields3724 0/10 ragebait. do better😉
3 likeswomp womp
0 likes@@naganut9718 it's still rigged after doing that, especially because of the lack of a similar offer to one of the girls.
2 likes@@attacong7779 that's what I was thinking. Current MrBeast employees would definitely say anything to please the company if it means keeping their jobs or getting a quick pay
5 likes@@naganut9718 plus he was the guy who knew how to solve them. He probably would have been targeted to be eliminated with side money
0 likes@@Silas276in all fairness it's probably added to make the challenge more interesting
0 likes@@attacong7779 Soggy also just skipped over the part in the 100 Girls vs 100Boys video, where Jimmy gives the only man that can solve the rubik's cube $10k to leave. After which he went to the girls, not to make the same offer to the only woman able to solve them, but instead tell them how he rigged the challenge for them.
5 likes@@Thy_Dictatorafter this vid i think i would just stand in between 2 sides since both have some flaws in theirs claims. interviewing with mrb current employees cannot make sure since mrb might know this and tell them to say this to defame dogpack. denying mrb not manipulating the script is not ok since in 5v5 boys vs girls survivors contest there was a professional in girls team. the 10minute vid they hired a famous person who should have been lost during lazer challenge
7 likesAnd also the guy at 57:10 didn't show any email from the Mr beast team that he was selected, how can we just trust this guy without any proof? He could just be some random dude talking nonsense
6 likesMr beast is still a horrible boss and not a good person. Just look at his crypto history and his tweets about them. And he still uses kids to feed his money farm. And the whole Lunchly thing too is very very gross. Him working with Logan Paul and KSI. And a bunch more. Sure that dog dude sucked. But so does Jimmy.
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@@db1671 And he should be held accountable. Yet, I always knew that 99% was hogwash.
0 likes@@Rottenisherewhich is also lies
0 likesThe only thing that you can really critique him on now is his alleged crypto history
0 likesWhich....is something he addressed in the video.
14 likesFinally real journalism on youtube
9 likesMr Beast paid this guy to slander dogpack, Mr Beast hired a RSO and we all know it
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@@PulseyPulsy how much did dogpack404 pay you
0 likes@@mohammed.shami1773 I literally said Mr. Beast was a scumbag in another comment, use your eyes and ears
0 likes@@plpong893 You have no point, jog on mate
0 likes@@plpong893 Why do you support pedophiles?
0 likes@@plpong893 No, your point is not valid because you are not spewing your opinion as fact. How much did Mr Beast pay you to support him?
1 like@ Yeah, I get that. Maybe I could have worded my comment better. But my point still stands. I still think MrBeast is a scumbag, but DogPack404 is no different.
0 likes@@plpong893 but he literally did hire an RSO, the only thing that was disproven was that MrBeast didn’t intentionally hire Delaware, and also some minute details. But the big problem with all of this is that he was employed by MrBeast, that is the issue that should’ve been focused on. Regardless if it was intentional or not, he still did it.
3 likes@@plpong893 there is no hard evidence, maybe you should watch dogpacks video before making a dumb comment
1 likewatch the video before making a dumb comment
0 likesGreat video, disproving a lot of allegations, one issue is that in the middle of debunking allegations, you spread one. Cam nuggets is the worst, he sucks. However that is not what happened. There is a lot of context to that message that you left out
9 likesEDIT: He has since responded on a livestream with Lerix, I assume he's going to make another more public response. I retract my statements, because it looks like he's retracted his accusations against Camnuggets. He has now agreed to remove that part from the video.
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@ChrisMiIesChong no, he reported an event that Camnuggets had nothing to do with, other than him being there and being the one to report the issue to the server staff. yes they should've vetted the people going into the server, however that is not on Cam Nuggets. He was not just watching a kid make cp, he was reporting a minor to get them out of the chat.
1 like@@ChrisMiIesChongno. He was in an NSFW chat and a kid got in. On the vc the minor was recording their butthole, the message was him reporting it so the minor could be banned.
0 likesLet me guess.. “it’s just a joke” or it’s “out of context”
3 likesgrate video, you manipulated this aspect of the messages and so have lied to the youtube audience.........yup A FUGGING + .........this video suxs
1 likeMan dog pack wasted my time
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Finally someone who is neutral and actually advises people instead of saying to side with one
0 likesAs long as you don't jump to conclusions and defend his allegations in every commentary channel (Pegasus, for example), I think you're good.
2 likesThank God I didn't waste my time watching the full videos of DogPack
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@@Sweepadelica ?
0 likes@@barzap6190and you don’t feel like a total sheep for believing this video paid for by Mr beast?
1 likeyep, me too but I don’t feel proud because now I just feel like a total sheep for believing all the allegations, he said (dog pack)
1 likeCan anyone explain to me how 13:44 is not a war crime. They literally show in the text that sleep deprivation is a form of war crime and is exactly what they did to him by refusing to turn off the lights. It shouldn’t matter if the guy said it as a joke or not, it’s still a warcrime
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@@DJTAURboth can be war crimes lmao
0 likes@@DJTAUR not a war crime since they are not at war, are apart of a privte entiy and can leave anytime they want. if they cant leave it,that would be considered a human rights violation, not a warcime
1 likethe key is the last word. "detainees". he was not a detainee, he could leave at any time
2 likescould it still be argued as unethical due to how encouraged he was to stay? certainly.
but it was not a warcrime, also its an ai summery anyway i wouldn't trust it.
@@imcalledcool dude thats ridiculous. if you think letting contestants challenge themselves in a bright room for a cash prize is a war crime, wait till you find out what an isreali bomb does to a baby in a palestinian residential building. ridiculous.
0 likes@ Yeah I get what you mean. But then he would lose the money he had potential to win so he can’t really just leave. But yeah you’re probably right about it not being a war crime then but I personally think it should still count as it
0 likes1. they're not at war. not a war crime
2 likes2. they can leave any time they want.
I don't think it would be considered a war crime because he could leave at any time. Don't get me wrong, it was incredibly shitty of them to do that, but not a war crime.
0 likesSo basically Beast is not quite as bad as alleged and Dogpack and Jake aren't absolute angels? Damn, that's kinda crazy bro. I almost give a damn.
9 likesNeither party should be believed. Not dogpack, not beast, not you, not randomsloptuber number 3000. This should be handeled in court, not by random basement dwellers who have nothing better to do than to make a spectacle of these crimes and lies.
I’m glad to have found Stucky’s channel after waiting since I had a suspicious gut feeling about DogPack. Sure enough my gut feeling was correct. Also Megasus is gonna have to delete those videos after milking the entire thing, if he milks this tho I pray he gets made fun of even more for it
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hypersus lovee to milk cows more than fidel castro
0 likesSTUCKY FAN SPOTTED🔥🔥💪💪
1 likeAwesome work!
33 likesThis video is most definitely paid for by mr beast
3 likesWhy did Mrbeast follow you on X before the release of this video?
9 likesSeems someone has been paid😊😊
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@@sammmmmmmmmmy That is not a excuse. It's obvious...
0 likesJust use a single brain cell, you won't have a seizure i promise.
@@ArtVaeirs PHAHAHA fool
0 likes@ WHAT A CLOWN LOL, didn’t even WATCH IT and you’re sitting in here trying to start stuff. GO OUTSIDE
1 like@DDArtsArts yeah I'm not gonna watch an hour and half of this guy's video, the little that I saw from him seemed like this guy is a bullshitter. And the hour and half video thing was probably intentional, they knew most people wouldn't watch it and there would just be fanboys like you that you probably didn't watch the whole thing either posting all over the internet how this video totally debunked that dogpack guy, and no ones gonna waste an hour and half of their lives to try to debunk that. So the long video thing might have been intentional
0 likes@@ArtVaeirs because y’all aren’t the detectives you think y’all are…this is also the main excuse anyone has when they give mr.beast a bone, that they’re being paid off
0 likes@sammmmmmmmmmy you seem like you're gaslighting people that conspiracies like this couldn't ever happen
0 likes@ you’re the one trying to spread conspiracy bro, get a grip and go outside
0 likes@@ArtVaeirs I assume you've watched the video and seen how many claims were proven as lies or manipulations.
0 likes@@DDArtsArts are they being proven? And why not have that thought?
0 likes@@ArtVaeirs Why's that your first thought when lies are being proven?
0 likes@@DDArtsArtsknowing COULD= paid, or promised something
0 likes@@DDArtsArtsAnd how does that single out the fact that they might have secretly planned together for him to make this video?
0 likes@@Keeb_the_mof i asked a question and implied some conclusions from my observation.
0 likesIf I am wrong, kindly telle the reasons.
@@sammmmmmmmmmy Don't read my comment then😁😁.
0 likesYour headache solved.
Thank me later.
@@SaimBinHassanRizvi knowing =/= paid
0 likes@DDArtsArts That's the point
0 likesYou didn't watch it, but if you had you'd have seen he went to Beast in NC for in person interviews, ever considered that they might have followed him because they were aware he was making this about them?
0 likesTHIS. ☝☝☝‼‼‼
2 likesi was payed by mr beast..
he asked me to twerk and i did..
and i got 1,000,000$
mr beast is a stupid money daddy pookie bear.. 😞😞😞😞😞
You and Dogpack 404:👨❤️👨
8 likesHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
7 likesGo outside bro, your conspiracies are a headache
11 likesFirst I want to say that this was a great video and you did a great job with this exposing of Dogpack but I do have a question whether this is debunking all of the allegations against Mrbeast. What I mean is that Rosanna also made a video on Jimmy’s illegal gambling and him being a gambling addict and that whole Mrbeast crypto investigation but you didn’t cover them but some of these people making these have something to do with Dogpack so are these allegations fake or not?
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@@Tyne-w6c I know but he also said that most of the stuff by Dogpack and people associated with him are lies and the information I said came for Rosanna who is related to Dogpack in this situation
1 like@Tyne-w6c my bad, i started watching and couldn't be bothered with the rest.
0 likesFun fact: Did you know one of the major issues in North Carolina atm is human trafficking. It's on the doa website. It's just something i randomly can across looking up some of these MB facts.
soggy is only refuting some of the claim not all
1 likeIts interesting watching the dip in MrBeast video views since thendogpack videos. Beast has had ro bump up channel numbers by releasing more shorts
3 likesPersonally I think Amazon will be a flop and JD has peaked, all downhill from here.
When he is not talking business or from a script the guys just have no personality. This was demonstrated on the How Ridiculous video, Chris Hemsworth video. Its just a bunch of 12 year old boys in a room.
Plus, SomeOrdinaryGamer, Coffeezilla, and others, including ex employees, have all come out essentially confirming what Dogpack said. New videos on the crypto scam today and it was only due to Asmongold the eye surgery hospital finally got paid after 12 months.
5 likesI'll choose the slightly shady underdog over the massive, hulking extreme piece-of-shi- bloated corpo dog any day. It's not even a comparison at this point. This is like a whistleblower pointing out the CEO and board murder and eat people, and people saying "Okay fair point, but wait- YOU'RE NOT WEARING COMPANY SHOES! BOOO! You're the same!"
2 likes21:45 mistaking 1/2 serving size for 1 serving size is the oldest mistake in the book, I don't think I can trust anything dogpack says after this point.
1 likeDAMN, i feel bad for believing these claims made by him, i would like to apologize
1 likeThe lore deepens, expecting more plot twists next season.
2 likesnah screw tyson vs paul
3 likeslets have soggy vs doggy boxing match
So where’s the source on that guy who was supposedly recorded? Funny how his accent and voice inflection are different when you interviewed him.
4 likesAlso where’s the Sea-Special-4546 Dm that was sent to the Mr. Beast employee? I can’t find it anywhere. Where did you get it?
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@ That is a completely fair point to make, you are absolutely correct. I do not agree with Dogpack’s decision to include that recording, I don’t think it helps whatsoever
0 likesHow are we supposed to know who it is if Dogpack never cited who the recording was of? If you're critical of the idea that the recorded audio is of this guy, you also have to be critical of the idea it was a Mr. Beast employee at all.
0 likesbro became the $1M lawyer 💀💀💀
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Ali koca is the $1 lawyer
0 likesI know you
0 likestierlist all the "lawyers" next
0 likesBrother I will never believe a crypto scammer like Mr beast, friends of Gary v a prolific grifter and scammer, is helping anyone out of the goodness of his heart.
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The video debunks all of dogpacks allegations, not the other staff. Mrbeast is most likely still a bad person as coffezilla did a good investigation on him and he still is collabing with logan.
2 likesMrbeast may not be a good guy but dogpack definitely isn't.
So dogpack is literally just a disgruntled ex employee lmao
2 likesngl that content cop section at the start was so good u became Ian idubbz for a moment
2 likesI'm betting that MorePegasus will turn this video into 5
2 likesTo all the people labeling yourselves gullible for believing Dogpack, I have news for you. Soggy's research is really not all that much better.
15 likesSome of you may recall a now-deleted segment in this video where Soggy accuses CamNuggets of being a PDF using a single Discord screenshot. This was actually Cam reporting a kid exposing themselves on VC to the mods of his server, which he elaborated on in a community post with instructions on how to join said server and see the context. Soggy almost certainly should have known, and the fact he pushed that claim anyway - even if he did delete it later - speaks to either bias or highly irresponsible reporting.
It's also not good that he bases so much of his claims on new testimony and his interpretations of existing testimony. It's all still no more or less hearsay than what's already been said, no matter how much you show off the effort you put into the process. You can't cherry pick what you think is wrong with existing interviews and then treat your own like gospel just because you feel like you worked harder for it.
The audio recording of Dawson's termination is dubious at best, and it doesn't help that Soggy hardly elaborates on how he obtained it. Not good, especially after Jake Weddle was almost fooled by an AI recording of Jimmy.
The Discord DMs with Dogpack can also be easily falsified. Soggy could have done a lot more to verify that particular evidence (is that even Dogpack he's talking to?), but considering the CamNuggets blunder, it's clear that Discord screenshots aren't Soggy's strong suit. It's also hypocritical, considering that Soggy wants to call Dogpack's Twitter DMs into question.
A lot of the rest is just more nitpicking that can easily be falsified or back and forthed on, and doesn't really go anywhere but attempt to discredit people. In short, Soggy is the Lunchly to Dogpack's Lunchables.
I'm not saying that Soggy is wrong, and no one is perfect, but if you think you're gullible for believing Dogpack and are now believing Soggy, then you've learned nothing and are setting yourself up to feel even worse if this gets disproven. Focus on the tangible, verifiable evidence.
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at the very least soggy didnt rush evidence like dogpack who lets just say did it twice and got backshotted twice
1 likeWell said
3 likesThis is unexpected. I can't understand why any YouTuber would want to weigh into the middle of this, unless of course you want to kiss Mr Beasts A S S.
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@@fional5150then u proved urself to be a dogrider
1 like@@basimcool9278 Nahhhh. I'm not giving clout monkey here any more view time
0 likesWatch those 2 clips
1 like1:24:49
2 likes42:29
2 likesPlease watch this video
1 likeScrew this drama, how’s your day today commenters?
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its alright, doing some work while I listen to this drama
1 likeMy grandfather just die so very bad since I need his verify to join the Party of my country to sever the people
1 likeI learned a lot about how people of relatives (my sister and a lot of other people) are hypocrites
But it is alright, you become stronger, and may I hope I follow the truth, follow the light not follow the kind of person my relatives and family is 🌻.
Life was written by Dostoyevski and Nietzshe, produced by Omar Khayyam. Take from that what you will, cause I act like Marx anyway
0 likeshorrible :)
0 likesGood😃😃👍👍
0 likesIs MrBeast evil? He's collaborating with Logan Paul and KSI so I'm gonna go with yes based on that fact alone.
2 likesNever stop speaking the truth, brother.
2 likesThis is the true MCU
1 likeMrbeast Cinematographic Universe
Tbh if mrbeast didnt go all in with lunchly, then this video would have regained some of the respect i had for him
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@@reddishcarp1237 really ? What did they launch ? I'm completely unaware about this
0 likes@@SujitAdhikar-u1v Did you felt the same thing with every big youtuber like MoistCritikal having worked with Logan Paul?
0 likesYea the Logan Paul Collab doesn't sit well with me either
2 likesi KNEW something was up when i kept seeing dogpacks new videos in my fyp dragging it out like😭
2 likesBruh, it's always the guys who work at a company for less than a month that "know how it works"
1 likeWAITING FOR SOMEONE TO EXPOSE SOGGY CEREAL NOW LOL😂😂😂
5 likesfinally, someone is speaking out against dog pack. it's about time
2 likesAnd this is why Soggy makes me Soggy, he actually puts effort and research into what topic he’s explaining,
2 likesCan't wait for "The Truth About MrBeast, Dogpack404 & Soggy Cereal" to release
3 likesCant wait for SunnyV2 video titled "Dark truth behind Soggy Ceral"
1 likeYou can tell the damage has been done by how few views this has gotten compared to the original exposé. If this rebuttal is substantially accurate, Jimmy should undoubtedly sue Dawson. The first words that pop into my head when I hear 'Mr Beast' now are 'pedophile / scammer / liar / psychopath'. Even having watched this, that's now my immediate mental response. I can't even watch his videos anymore.
2 likesbut dogpack isnt harming children? THIS is clout chasing, stop pretending youre better than someone else just because you dont like what they are exposing. This to me seems like youre being paid to do so, it feels like a cheap ripoff
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Dogpack meatrider
1 likeYouTube opinion timeline.
2 likes"Damn, Mrbeast is helping everyone, he's the goat. Why is everyone trying to cancel Mrbeast?" -> "Damn, screw it, cancel Mrbeast, he's a fraud Dogpack said so." -> "Ok nevermind, Mrbeast is still weird at some extent but Dogpack is a fraud!"
What are you even actually proving. You are focusing and miss directing the whole thing. You are literally straw manning. None of the things you are pointing out does anything. This is an hour waste of video content.
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@@letchab7353 I can't find things that don't exist. If you want to prove me wrong, give literally just one single example
0 likes@@StrikerEureka13 Why cause you don't know how to puck it out?
0 likes@StrikerEureka13 nah. I dont think i have too nor will I. You came in hot like you had a chip on your shoulder. If you are too stupid to know what straw man is and how to spot it, then go figure it out yourself. You aren't my responsibility to educate. That's your job.
0 likes@@letchab7353 You made a statement, either back it up with some evidence or retract it.
1 like@@letchab7353 I know what straw manning is. Name one time he did it
0 likes@StrikerEureka13 bro, if you think I give two shits to prove to you anything, you are devoid of reality. If you don't know what straw manning is nor examples of it, then look it up yourself. It ain't that hard to find videos on straw manning!
0 likesName one time he straw manned dogpack
1 likeWith this level of research you aren’t a Content Cop you’re a Content Lawyer.
2 likesHi, i'm only just watch the video for about 10 minutes but I already saw some flaws and why this got pop up on my Front page but not Dogpack404 with high view when it just got so high with the first video Dogpack404 create?
3 likesAnyway, my flaw I saw is with the interview with Garrot from 7:30, he talk about how the "crappy voice changer" damage his life but I don't see any point to prove it?
First : He talk joking about with a friend so how other people know the crappy voice changer is Garrot? Because for me, that crappy voice changer sound good and only his friend and Garrot know about that conversation so how other people know it is him? And with so if they know, how can they 100% prove it is him because ONLY 2 PEOPLE KNOW THAT CONVERSATION, how can they 100% sure it is him again to damage his life? As the point as they work, people should be a little bit smart and can't 100% sure because it is still a voice changer, and there people with good voice changer real life can fake the way of speaking, etc to made it sound like Garrot? So again, how?
And also, don't you see a little bit weird how Soggy look like side with the Mr.Beast side with that claim and didn't question it either?
I still respect Dogpack404 to be the first successful person to bringdown Empire of Mr.Beast because whether you like it or not, he indeed the first person that made TON of people question Mr.Beast, that you can't denied. Hope I just wrong with this flaw I'm seeing..
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Fact check version of myself : I don't trust 2 people Conversation and the good friend of Garrot will support him and prove Garrot is innocent since he probably the once publish the record to Dogpack404, but I doubt he is a sc*mb*g to tell all other people that Garrot is a bad person and the recording of this is Garrot voice since that fake claim can be easily be refute (the voice did get change). Unless the joke of him is so popular and he did joke about a same joke or similar joke a lot, it is unlikely that people remember till 2024 to link it to Garrot. So again, nope, that a flaw to me eye until I hope somewhat please prove I'm wrong
0 likescalling out a youtuber that calls out a youtuber
2 likesFrom all the slop we've gotten so far, there's still questions on whether:
1 like- Dustin was rescued from Grandfather Mountain using an Army Helicopter, allegedly deceiving taxpayers.
- The Christian Camp where the video of "Protect the Yacht" was filmed was indeed left with debris on the lake.
- The philanthropy videos might have been edited in a way that they wanted it to seem as if they did more than what they claimed (Repeated footage on building 100 wells in Africa, Digitally disappearing a building and making it look worse when they only built solar panels, also using AI to fake a house in another philanthropy video).
- Mr. Beast accepted to sponsor a scented water bottle that needed to change a plastic every ten days while at the same time trying to "save the ocean" with #TeamSeas.
- The ideas are stolen from other people.
- The workplace environment is actually toxic and with some alleged misogyny due to the lack of strong corporate foundations since the beginning.
- They have filmed their videos more than once in a very experimental approach (first it was Jake Weddle on solitary confinement, then Trey alleges this also happened with the FBI agent video because of no proper screening process).
- They forgot to check BG again (allegedly some contestant on the Mr. Beast games who also worked for Logan Paul was harassing women and then was kicked afterwards).
- Mr. Beast was not prepared to host a game show of a really big scale, affecting people in the process.
That's what I've gotten so far. I might edit this comment if I can recall other things not mentioned on this video.
Jimmy hired a few plants to take down public opinions on dogpack
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@@shadowed69 Chris isn't a woman fyi
0 likes@@ltreylukwesa -Knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware, admitted by Jake the Viking, his son in law) and exposing his child audience to him in videos (Soggy actually tries to re-write the narrative of this in this video)
1 like-Knowingly keeping a predator (Ava Kris Tyson) at the forefront of his brand (he knew about the inappropriate poster she bought years ago, as seen in multiple videos + many other bad behaviors, as shown in the leaked discord dms)
-The terrible treatment of Beast Games contestants (that's well documented and obviously attached to his name)
-Fake/misleading charity work that's true purpose was just to increase the reputation of his brand (there have been multiple videos explaining this better than I can. It all ties into him being generally misleading/manipulative but stating that he "never fakes things" so he can convince his child viewers to subscribe/consume his content/buy his merch, gamble etc. etc.)
those are the worst ones that i know have substantial evidence
@@StrikerEureka13 Coffeezilla's video specifically doesn't take a hard stance on whether Mr. Beast himself or his fund did what looks to maybe be a scam.
1 likeObviously we know it's probably an intentional scam.
But Mr. Beast can come up with a counter argument to that claim because there isn't enough definitive evidence presented. Coffeezilla makes a point of that in the video.
@@shadowed69which ones are the bad serious ones?
0 likes@@shadowed69 Crypto scams are a huge deal. He couldn't verify for certain that Jimmy was a part of them, but told people exactly where to find information about it (which confirmed he was behind Crypto scams). That isn't at all safe or non-damaging.
0 likes@@StrikerEureka13 It's all theatre
0 likes@@StrikerEureka13 To make sure he didn't seem like too much of a glazer, because then everyone would be certain that this was a paid PR video. All the things that Soggy "called him out for" (which was basically nothing btw), were safe easy things that don't affect his reputation nearly as badly as the serious, unaddressed accusations.
2 likesSoggy literally called Jimmy out for the illegal literally, called some of his actions "scummy and manipulative" and even called him out for some things Dogpack didn't.
2 likesDoubt you will ever read this Soggy Cereal but wanna give you massive props for not dead naming Ava or mispronouning her. She absolutely a horrific person, but weaponizing deadnaming and such only encourages discrimination towards trans people who did nothing wrong or did something that is no were near this level of messed up. I really appropriate the ally ship.
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@@alextubey4717trans people are normal
0 likesyour brainwashed and you have a mental illness. Get Help
1 likeYou’re wayyyy too dismissive of Jake Weddle. Working conditions like the ones He was subjected to are abhorrent, regardless of whether he “consented” to the job or not.
2 likesfunny, I always found some allegations wierd [yes i am a hardcore mrbeast fan who refused to believe everything] and you just straight up solved up everything
2 likesFinally actually someone saying Dogpack ain't that good as he portrays himself in public.
1 likeCan’t believe any of this needs to be said. Anyone with a shred of media literacy would at least understand that dogpack404 was a sketchy and erratic source at best and actively malicious at worst. It was mind numbing seeing how many people just blindly followed and praised him when it was clear as day that everything coming out of his mouth were either lies or things taken entirely out of context.
6 likesThanks for making this video that spells everything out for these lobotomites.
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People said comments like this but about mrbeast under dogpacks video when that came out lol
1 likeI don't know, this whole video feels like that one picture of obama putting himself a gold medal
2 likesi love how people believe everything anyone says, something alot of idiots in ths comment section keep forgetting is this is not a mr beast defending video but proving how unreliable and not trustworthy dogpack is
3 likesTHE TRUTH ALWAYS PREVAILS !
3 likes22:00 - Dogpack: "This pit is fake"
2 likesSoggy: "No it's not, here's footage"
1:10:56 - "The reason the hole is CG in the video..."
So is the hole CGI or is it not?
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I think it's real but is more exaggerated with CGI
0 likesregarding the warcrime joke: irrelevant if its a warcrime or not, its still very immoral to deprive someone of sleep, and you can't argue that "leaving whenever you want" makes it consensual, since there's no real choice with that much lifechanging money.
2 likesLove your work though, just needed to express my opinion on that
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That's ridiculous. By that logic, anyone living paycheck to paycheck is a slave, because they need that money to live.
0 likesI do wonder if Mr Beast paid for this , some of the information you’ve used seems like you could of only got it from Jimmy
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@@JamieVatargaa MrBeast affiliate paid for his flight to America
0 likesI wouldn’t be surprised if that’s how he landed exclusive access to these employees and audio files that would be confidential but were somehow “conveniently leaked”
@@JamieVatarga LMAOO aka beast is still rich scum and soggy cereal is just another grifter going at another grifter which makes this probably the least productive and meaningful dig video.
0 likes@@JamieVatargathat’s interesting, thankyou for your reply !
1 likeBeast didn’t pay for it, but he was aware it was happening. Soggy says he got permission from Mr Beast, but he didn’t tell Mr Beast who specifically he was going to interview (although considering what he was covering it wouldn’t be hard to deduce)
4 likesAn interesting thing has come up though where Jimmy has been messaging different creators in DMs and telling them to watch this video, and now Soggy is on twitter calling out Mr Beast for using his video as a shield and not addressing all the other illegal allegations that he does feel he needs to
FINALLY! I am so tired of people blindly believing everything Dogpack and his two disgruntled idiots say. I want to see responsibility taken by Jimmy. If these fraudulent allegations continue that would never happen.
2 likesthis is actually one of the only valid videos on the mr beast situation and i honestly think you're pretty brave for putting this out there. i have really enjoyed watching your content grow and i can tell you give a shit about integrity. ty for this!
1 likeThe Dogpack404 defenders have discovered this vid
2 likesthis saga is actually insane girl lemme go get a drink…..
3 likesEveryone accused should address the allegations. This situation is a huge fucking mess made out of nothing. It's actually insane how this situation has played out.
2 likesI had a feeling about dogpack but my puny small lazy brain let the community get the best if me and I haven't watched a single dogpack video😭
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same bro i had a bad feeling bout gun espically being an old eployee i knew I KNEW that he was lying bout something
2 likesI’m not gonna turn on dogpack Rosanna or Jake just yet, sure they made some mistakes but they aren’t entirely wrong, and even though soggy made some good points and did some pretty great research, he wasn’t always right either.
2 likesHaving lots of money will make so many people simp for you. If the truth helps your philanthropy, is it philanthropy?
2 likesOmg. I knew it. This guy was shady from the very start.
3 likesI didn’t believe the Mr beast allegations for a week or two solely because dogpack404 was unhinged and kept calling everyone “controlled opposition”.
1 likeAnd then Mr beast started hanging out with Logan Paul and then it made sense.
Not gonna lie, it was nice to see Garrett again after so many years
1 likeThe content cop throwback was amazing, reminded me of the good days
2 likesHe just saved Mr Beast’s ass…. Most of it
2 likesMoistcritikal and soggy are beast simps
4 likesDamn. That's a lot of stuff. I'm no longer on Dogpack's side (good riddance, he was insufferable anyway). I'm on yours now, Soggy. Because Jimmy is still a shady guy that needs to be held accountable and Dogpack should get sued.
2 likesI mean, TO BE FAIR, it is considered inhumane torture to live in solitary confinment, that is not FALSE, and there IS a conversation to be had about how Mr.Beast content had and has a tendency of being dehumanzing and/or dangerous even if agreed upon and allowed to leave at any time.
2 likesSomeone shouldn't be put to psychological torture that they don't understand the gravity off just bc they say its okay, ykwim?
HOWEVER, I think it is also important to point out that this isn't unique to Mr.Beast, and there are entire networks who have made millions of dollars torturing people for entertainment too.
Mr.Beast is a sympton of the illness, not the illness itself, if it wasn't Mr.Beast then someone else would've made the same mistake.
Glad I subscribed to you earlier and had the chance to join your server and had a discord call with you before you were super famous lmao. Soggy you have put a lot of effort in this one, I hope it pays off.
0 likesNothing says defending Mr. Beast like attacking the character of his accuser. You could have done a whole lot better dude.
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@@sharkydumbo6097 Halfway into the video, the only thing he has debunked was the Feastables nutrition facts and the cgi accusations.
0 likesMost of the other points was Soggy attacking Dogpack’s language, like him not saying allegedly a single time, or him claiming Jake the Viking was not a valid source, despite using Jake the Viking as a source when I benifits his side of the story, the Mr. Beast side.
I completely agree that misinformation should be combated, 100%, and Dogpack should not have spread misinformation in his video. However, Soggy uses these small attacks on the credibility on minor claims to attack the larger claims that have more substantial evidence.
For the most part, this is not a debunking of Dogpack, this is a slander piece designed to make Mr. Beast look better. Notice how in most of his segment Soggy does not actually attack the matter at hand, rather he focuses on a small issue and then blows it out of proportion (ie. For the war crimes segment Soggy focuses on the fact that Dustin, an employee was joking about the war crimes thing, despite the fact that Mr. Beast was paying a struggling college student to subject himself to an experience that has been dubbed a war crime to use on prisoners of war).
@@kookthekid8338 Me personally I don’t really care about the personality of Dogpack. His claims are what is important to me and to the controversy.
0 likesSoggy spending the entire video calling him an idiot and posting vulnerable information oh him at a low moment in his life does not combat any misinformation (Which Dogpack is guilty of in some examples). All it does is serve to defame Dogpack in order to discredit him. Defamation is not helpful in combating his claims, but it will help sway public opinion into disliking Dogpack, and in addition his accusations.
In the entire hour and a half video Soggy dedicates 2 minutes to criticizing Mr. Beast, and the rest is attacking Dogpack. There is a very clear bias here given the current title of the video.
He is not defending mr beast he is just debunking everything so there is no misinformation
2 likesThe character of his accuser is terrible. You gotta look at both sides dude. The whole world is looking at Mr.Beasts mis deeds already, dogpack needs called out for his too
2 likesHuh turns out that manager who said Dawson was crying over his old job and desperate to stay at firing wasn't just trying to smear a critic. I'm actually kinda shocked the audio receipts to back it up exist.
2 likesAnyway, glad that my initial hunch i suppressed about how DogPack looked kinda wiry and untrustworthy (like a skaven) wasn't just me being an asshole but an accurate gut feeling about his character based on how he carried himself and presented things. Lo and behold, turns out BOTH the exposee and exposer are scum. It makes perfect sense why 404 was so desperate to stay, and when he got fired anyway he tried to inflame the actual wrong doings of Mr.Beast in order to push his own bullshit and capture his 15 minutes of fame he failed to get working for him. Birds of a feather flock together, but sometimes one bird gets ejected from the flock and acts as geese are wont to: spiteful.
I feel so validated. I was always one of the people to criticize Mr. Beast, mostly because I’m a Contrarian (also spelled Asshole), but also because I think everything deserves criticism. The second it became popular to criticize him I toned it down, mostly because I thought they turned Mr Beast from a saint to a demon, when he’s somewhere in between. I like to see the good in humanity while staying realistic to our flawed existence. People immediately took his word or called him a liar immediately after DogPack404 released his videos instead of waiting it out/doing their own digging.
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I think the beast games stuff makes him a demon but that’s just me. The average person makes mistakes but not on that scale and magnitude. He couldn’t even give them beds, the real squid games even had beds
0 likesIf you're reading this, please take time.
0 likesI can't stand to see people making baseless accusations without properly watching the vid or instead consult other drama vids to explain the vid. I'm going to clarify a handful of things:
1) He did NOT downplay Jake Weddle's experience, he's well aware that it was awful, as you can see in the interview, but makes it clear that comparing it to a war crime (which Jake tried to portray that even though it was a joke by a friend of his) is extremely bold.
2) The accusations that he got paid by Mr. Beast is wild.
Even though he commented on it and he told Pyro to react to it, Soggy made it perfectly clear that Jimmy should be held accountable for the things he ACTUALLY did, like not paying for the surgery for the blind people, and admitted that the first illegal lottery was in fact illegal.
3) He also makes it perfectly clear that Jimmy was not aware that he hired a registered sex offender, he called out for his mistake and said it was irresponsible, but he said it was not intentional, especially when the RSO was hired at Best Buy.
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@@cjinworldofgaming511 probably pushed away with time and new comments, but im deadass.
0 likesits a real thing.
@@LongGone2 w u t
0 likesyou should go the comments and see newest first.
1 likeMade by "TheMangaWasBetter"
Its literally an entire comment they made on how this video is horrible.
I am not joking. its a real thing.
Thank DeFranco. Didn’t see this video. Been invested into all of this. Gooooo soggy tearing everyone down.
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Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
0 likesWith the airrack video and this ur proving to be someone who brings original content to the commentary space, which doesn’t seem like it but is incredibly high praise.
1 likeglad somone seeing both sides, thats how a debate works
1 likeWhen i kept saying most allegations had no proof, i was seen as a meatrider. But you soggy cereal, is seen as a hero.
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who cares
0 likesMan i cant wait for 2026 when all this is gonna turn out to be orchestrated by mr beast as a publicity stunt
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$1 accusation vs $1000 000 accusation
0 likesThis is situation is like 2 clones standing next to eachother saying "no i'm the good guy shoot the other one" but both the clones are evil, and probably even the one shooting the gun(soggy cereal)
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lol, this situation really is chaos, huh?
0 likesalthough this video did shed some new light into dogpack's less than scrupulous practices of misleading accusations, it also completely omitted many of the serious allegations of mr. beast that have more credibility to them. Such as the deleted discord messages to hide the chris ava messages. Making it not a good look for Soggy, in addition to dog and beast
2 likesbro wants on the mrbeast pr team sooo bad
2 likesThis video feels just as manipulative as the dog pack one, honestly. You really successfully managed to paint the picture that he’s not to be trusted and a lot of his accusations are pretty skewed but for the biggest ones, your arguments feel so flimsy.
5 likesFor the war crime part, you focus on the fact that it’s a joke and successfully debunk it but doesn’t focus on the glaring aspect that what happened, happened. Even if it was made as a joke and not a real fact, he still suffered was victim of what was joked about. You just kind sweep under the rug with the "he could have just left" when the video makes an argument that he felt intense social pressure not to. That wasn’t debunked.
Same for the other thing that were the most bothering for me: the safety of the contestant. You make this weird argument like "You complain about safety but MrBeast hid in his yacht to avoid the danger of a storm or fudged the number of contestants in his BoyvGirl with staff members to avoid COVID spreading, how hypocritical" and it makes no sense. Here, it’s a problem of lack of transparency. Sure, an argument could be made that it’s inconsequential and shouldn’t be mentioned (which I would agree with) but then it’s not to be conflated with the horrible set condition that were described during the round of allegations. Chief among which was the Beast Games were a lot of very basic safety practices seemed to have been overlooked. That’s the kind of safety we are focusing about.
Then, finally, there’s the point with Mr Beast recommending that anime about the 26/18 year old having a wholesome relationship. I feel like you’re being wildly facetious just to make your argument work. Sure, the anime ends up being more wholesome than the premise would suggest but just think through it a second. Ava is known to have weird things with kids. Jimmy recommends an anime where the premise is about heavily suggesting the adult and a minor will have a weird relationship even though it’s subverted in the end. Should we assume that when he says that Ava would like this, he’d had in mind that it’s a really good show that subverts the pedo implication it’s summary would imply or would he just like this because it seems like a pedo show. Judging by what we learn from Ava, the latter is way more likely than the former.
So yeah, I dunno. You convince me that dog pack isn’t to be trusted but it doesn’t mean you or Mister Beast are. I’d like to hear more from that situation to form a better judgement. :/
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I mean jimmy obv knew of kris's chats an alll
0 likesThis is why the youtube space should be personal-driven, not money-driven. Enough with the dramas and confusing allegations.
1 likeAre we going to finish season 19 on a cliff hanger or are we going to see the conclusion of the “Revolution of the Beast” arc?
1 likeThe slop thickens… 👀👀👀
I was honestly baffled at how everyone just jumped on board with Dogpack and believed him right away. He seemed so scummy and ingenuine right from the start
1 likeAlways thought the “war crime” he accused Mr.breast of was bull as he was getting payed
2 likesThe valve thing makes sense, what's the difference between the valve working when you turn it, and a guy pressing a 'drain water' button as soon as the valve turns. It's like wondering why a special effects guy offscreen presses the explosion button instead of the actor using real grenades.
1 likegreat job Soggy! almost none of Dogpack404's claims were even addressed!
7 likeslike wow guys he gave permission for his staff to forge his signature... which is somehow supposed to debunk the criticism of mr beast deceiving his child audience into thinking they received merch personally signed by him??!?
or the criticism of him knowingly keeping a registered offender on payroll. which was "debunked" because he actually neglected to run a background check, and only found out after hiring him and continuing to employ them???
or the claim that group chat image wasn't actually illegal material. even though that was discovered pretty much immediately, was addressed as a possibility in the original video, and is irrelevant as the actual criticism being levied is that the image was sent UNDER THE ASSUMPTION that is was illegal material.
and then to add insult to injury, the video goes on to criticize dogpack404 for attempting to reverse image search the photo. how can you use this attempt to research the origin of the image as critique, when the last claim you made was that dogpack404 didn't do enough research to confirm the illegal nature of the image...
video contradicts itself lmao. the only criticism i can see sticking, is dogpack404 taking an entire month to remove that video he fumbled, and even then, its miniscule compared to the totality of accusations against mr beast...
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but don't you see? if mrbeast messes up it was honest mistake but if dogapac messes up, he is trying to brainwash/ manipulate you! Soggy's first vid about this topic was even worse "the danger of slop content". thats why he deleted it
0 likesHope this gets to Trending , well done my man !
1 likeCannot believe this dude is getting promoted by MrBreast himself in other influencer's DMs and people are acting like this isn't fake as fuck 💀 guy's saying exactly what Jimmy wants him to say to try and save his image it's so sad 😭
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stop glazing either side
0 likesYes, that's the whole point of the video. Of course, it might be because MrBeast cannot speak up.
0 likesMissed opportunity for the title to say "I worked for Dogpack404, he is a fraud"
1 likeLiterally impossible to get a good idea of each situation when both sides of the story are untrustworthy. Good job calling out DogPack for being a bad person and straight lying, I just think that a good chunk of this video missed the mark
0 likes"no indication of it being a joke" he's laughing as he says it
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@@eevee3893if you think he's crying over his experience then why would that support the argument that it's not as bad as jake claimed
0 likesOh you mean laughing nervously while borderline crying
0 likesAs a proud North Carolinian, what you said about us being boring has deeply injured my feelings. But this video is so good I’ll let it slide.
5 likesAnyone ever hear of the false equivalency fallacy? That critical thinking class is really coming in handy now.
2 likesI mean even if the anime was about a 17 and 26 y/o being in a relationship I'm pretty sure that is legal in Japan. I mean I still think it's gross but like in Great Teacher Onizuka he talks about how he's a pervert and he day dreams about getting one of his students and having his 16 y/o bride which is played off as being a taboo but legal thing but in reality it's used as negative character trait for Onizuka, along with him being a smoker, and an ex-gang member they're meant to show you that he's not a moral person. But by the end of the third episode Onizuka saves one of his students from committing suicide because her home life isn't good, her parents never talk and if they do they're fighting. Onizuka tells her to go home and he will fix things. He shows up at her house that evening kicks in the front door holding a sledgehammer and asks her to to point at the wall that divides her parents and he breaks down that wall with the sledgehammer and leaves. It shows that he is a flawed person, who is scummy but capable of change and really cares for his students. As a westerner I do find it icky that he's talking about a 16 y/o wife when he's in his 20s because it's illegal here and that's what I grew up learning and because the age gap is just gross to me. I also find it gross when 30+ year olds are seeking out 18 year olds too even though that's completely legal. I also find it very gross if you are traveling places to make the age of consent lower even though in some cases that would be illegal but not always.(although many countries do have laws against doing exactly this thing) This anime seems to be very similar in that it is taking a topic that inherently makes you uneasy to build character. Just to be clear, so there can be no misconstruing anything: I DO NOT SUPPORT PEDOPHILIA OR CHILD ABUSE, I just acknowledge that there are differences in how certain countries define child versus adult.
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Pedo
0 likes1:00:52 how does this not devalue the item? the only way this doesn't devalue the item is if you can't prove it's fake. But if you know the signatures are being forged it's worthless.
2 likesThat intro 😍😍 Best era of youtube
1 like1$ Meat rider vs 1000$ Meat rider
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Yall are obviously the meatriders here. Specifically on Dogpack
1 likeNah man, he definitely got paid more then that😂😂
0 likesGenuinely confused on how ppl thought the warcrimes joke was real?? Not defending weddle but warcrimes imply the necesity of war to be applicable.
1 likeI give up, I don’t even know anymore
2 likesAlright I believe you, just because you're not glazing Jimmy while debunking these accusations.
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@@thefastrightptg5048 Not what I said. Dogpack is a bad journalist. This guy, Soggy, is even worse.
0 likes@@shadowed69 so you should believe in dogpack? Pure delusion💀
2 likesDo you think Jimmy would ever convince his audience of his innocence by hiring someone to glaze him? No. Instead he would get someone to dish out a little bit of shade while ignoring or manipulating the major issues like knowing about Ava Kris Tyson's behavior/knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law Jake the Viking months ago now...
1 likeDon't believe this guy.
Every MrBeast slander video has over 1 million views, but this one can get past K
1 likeI did not realize just how much I missed content cop, the Otis McDonald intro never gets old
0 likesNow we wait for RandomYouTuber42069 with 13 subscribers to put out the Soggy Cereal Exposed video
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The never ending cycle
0 likesThere is still shady crypto stuff happening as well just an fyi, coffeezilla has released a video on it
4 likesFor a moment I thinked you tried to defend Mr. beast like others but after seeing the video to the end (I don't know why people can't do that) I see what you tried to say and at this points atleast for me i am neutral now in this drama after all of this
2 likesReleased this video just long enough for people to have forgotten the details so you can use horrible analogies and a dumb voice to try an manipulate the truth. How much they pay you?
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Hey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
2 likes30:56 as an weeb who watch this show and called it as mid and never watch the whole season, nor read the manga the Girl is the one who coming to the salary man, but the salary man being a gigachad as he his refuses.
1 likeI am eagerly awaiting the Soggy Cereal exposed video essay. The slop cycle never stops
2 likesYou said it best: Mr Beast should be more Transparent and shown whats going on for allegations and that would've help his public image. Hes made bad decisions and should be called out for it
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@@tensedart3470 I think he knows that already, that’s why it’s been a good business decision for him not to speak out publicly, I’ve noticed YouTube drama becomes a witch hunt for a person especially if they respond , because the court of public opinion feels like they are owed even if they themselves aren’t the ones who have been done wrong, I don’t understand the obsession that people have with responses , but I do understand him directly compensating the people that were hurt or mishandled in relation to his actions. And his business doesn’t get hurt by it much, anyway that’s just a business side of things , I can’t be mad at it , heck my job is social media marketing, I stay the away from giving responses to hate on any posts , people will tear you apart at any chance they get just because they don’t like you
0 likes@ltreylukwesa if the allegations were false, then yeah I can agree. But as I said. It took Several YTbers to debunk what's true and not true. In This video alone. We see that Many of them aren't true and only 3 factors are true. Two of them are not as big. While I agree the English speaking side cared too much. We can't just let things slide just like that. Not saying Mr beast can't fix his mistakes. But that he has to be mindful of his decisions overall. Basically moral responsibility is what I'm speaking about
0 likesEdit: To add a TLDR. Mr Beast isn't above criticism. He should learn from his mistakes and he not be neglectful at things
@@tensedart3470 it was smart of him not to speak out on it, Mr beast videos are all over the world, the only people who care about the drama seem to be mostly English speakers or as it seems , majority Americans, why would he make a public statement like that that people are still just gonna slander and will actually impact the thoughts of all the other people in the world that don’t even know this is going on?
0 likes@PhoenixAscension554 the video literally debunked many things that were against Mr beast and it would've made sense for MR beast to speak up about it. The fact that Several Ytbers have to debunks things for Mr beast to prove his case. That's not a good look. At best. He's neglectful or very bad at organizing his work and image. Do I expect everything answered? No. Do I want beast to be called out for his bad decisions? Yeah mostly. Basically this is more about moral responsibility is what I have issue with
0 likesMrBeast should absolutely not be transparent or give anymore responses. Internet dramas boil over, and his views aren't declining by any meaningful amounts, and he is still in a good position. there's literally nothing loud twitter users or minorities in the public can do about this, so from his perspective why give in?
0 likesAm I saying he's okay or not okay? no neither actually, I'm just stating that from his perspective and how I see it, it would be an overall negative for him to be transparent and respond more than he already has.
If i need to choose between an obvious psychopath petty business tyrant, or the spiteful ghoul trying to sink him, im on the second team.
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Things are more complicated than that. You are not a child
0 likes@@ProbablyJacob This aint team sports man, both sides can be guilty. Mr beast is guilty in alot of things (some missing in this video) that he needs to respond to but letting dogpack get away scott free just because hes accusing the big bad isnt a very good solution. He'll spit in testimonies faces and worsen lives just to get the outcome he wants.
0 likesGo away nihilist
0 likes@@marikosbrando if you cant tell mr beast would bleed out an infant for a million dollars just by the way he moves, talks, and acts then youre either 11 or have the emotional IQ of a dog.
6 likesObvious psycopath how exactly ?@@ProbablyJacob
1 like@@ProbablyJacob freaks you cant accept the shit trowhn at beast was lies 😂 cringe ah mf
0 likes@@anonymous4068 id rather have an educated opinion on some shit that actually matters, i dont care about either of these two freaks and neither should you
3 likesOr you can watch the video, if you want to have an educated opinion
1 likeYour flights to North Carolina were paid by MrBeast company. That's how objective this video is.
3 likesLol dog pack deleted one of his video and lost lots subs
4 likesI thought my oldschool runescape sounds were playing because of the music at 6:05, i had to triple check my music tab
2 likesI knew Soggy would stand on business 🔥 Total superiority among commentary youtubers
2 likesCalled it way back when everybody else was calling dogwhatshisface a “hero”. Please.
1 likedo not trust anyone online, no matter what
2 likesHoly shit this man COOKED
1 like“Added it in post” doesn’t mean CG’d, but rather how it wasn’t organic. He even admitted they filmed multiple winks….
1 likeIm glad I didn't trust him from the start
1 likeCool, but was the raccoon a paid actor?
3 likesThis is a fever dream, soon someone will start exposing Soggy Cereal, MrBeast & Dogpack404.
1 likeDogpack is the hotter and way less annoying twink. Im on his side. This soggy dude is like a mrbeast character trying to do investigative journalism. Know your lane
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Dogpack seems shady. He randomly came out of nowhere and started making up allegations. Sure, I don’t support MrBeast but there’s something suspicious about him
1 likePlus he released his video AFTER Kris Tyson drama so he’s probably clout chasing and we fell for it
Hey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
1 likeTime for Dogpack to delete his channel. He fooled the entire YouTube with defamation and lies
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@@thatgirlwearingglasses4133 Yes Dogpack need to delete his channel. If anything his first video. Or just cut out all the lies out of it.
0 likesNot me. I’m still on me beasts side and never trusted that dog guy or that Rosana girl.
0 likes21:58 Please don't spew misinformation on a video attempting to correct it. Less calories is a BAD thing.
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He never said less calories is better, he's disproving the claim it has more calories and more sugar that DogPack says
1 likeHow?
0 likes36:18 dwoggy :3
6 likesMrBeast and Dogpack aside...A BAKING Youtuber making 10+ videos hating on another Youtuber is just plain weird and cringe.
1 likestarting the video with "these baseless rumours are hurting the philanthropy helping thousands of people" really doesn't inspire good faith. Jimmy is a millionaire. He doesn't need a good image to do good things, nor does he need to do good things publicly. he can just give money to charity and get a nice tax write-off. starting the video that way feels gross and manipulative. quite disappointing since soggy's coverage of the betterhelp situation was pretty good.
2 likesMr. Beast is Soggy's hero. He prob grew up watching him and idolizing Mr. Beast.
1 likeMorePegasus: MrBeast Allegations Got Even Crazier!
1 likeThumbnail: MrBeast next to text that says "HE'S END"
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@stephenbeatty9856 hi
0 likesHey
0 likesKinda sad with all the contestants having to coming out to prove they're not guilty of anything
1 likeThe fact the mrbeast removed his comment because he saw that you weren't on his side either says it all
1 like"Dogpack 404 just destroyed his career."
1 like"Dogpack 404 Is finished.."
"Dogpack 404 situation just got worse"
Mrbeast: UNO REVERSE!!!!
2 likesAren't you the guy who's getting paid to defend MrBeast?
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@@ps1de Said comment was deleted after PR team or Mr.Beast himself removed when at the end of the video they suggest another video which discredits him (crypto but I don't know that much about crypto so :\)
0 likesAlso, I am gonna need to have a little bit of context. if you are talking about interviews with people = knows too much about Mr.Beast, getting in contact with somebody is not near any of those things. And main reason he has been critical of him (same in this video) is because its basically been proven most of his claims are shit thrown at a wall hoping to stick with not much else to add onto it.
He says himself in the video he doesn't wanna be labeled a Mr.Beast Glazer/ (M.B.G.) and this video was mainly to just remove the false allegations on Mr.Beast that were ontop of ALREADY EXISTING allegations on Mr.Beast. not make his image clean.
@@Sorroh no matter how much MrBeast paid to silence Weddle it still wont reduce the trauma that dude must have gone through. Dogpack might not be the most trustworthy guy but that interview was the reason he got paid for the damages. The fact that they broke that man so much speaks volumes on inhumane that 'challenge' must have been.
3 likes@@ps1deno it’s just called research. The only confirmed person to have been paid is Jake Weddle lol
0 likes@@LongGone2it's not far fetched, soggy has a suspicious amount of insider details on MrBeast for such a relatively small channel. He's been a critic of dogpack in the 'slop content' video. This feels like Jimmy's attempt to discredit dogpack in a scummy way. I mean of all the video made on him why did mrbeast comment on this specifically lol.
5 likesOr is this somewhere else.
3 likesIs there something I am missing or context I don't have?
Do you possibly have a source for these because I've never heard this at all.
Where on earth did you get that..
5 likesDid you not watch the video?
they can take the content cop out of idubbbz, but they could never take the idubbbz out of content cop
1 like"I hope that the MrBeast drama is finally over now..."
1 likeOh, my sweet summer child...
"Nobody" creators generate tens of thousands of clicks simply by putting MrBeast's face in the thumbnail. If there's traffic to be made off of someone's name & likeness, and rage clicks are a principal means of driving engagement, drama content will continue until the heat death of the internet.
Thank You So Much For Your Hard Work Soggy Cereal .
1 likeExposing The Alleged Exposer.
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@mohwybar5832 I don't think that he done something or post to get exposed for
0 likesThat means soggy is next in line for being exposed
0 likesWhile everything is for the most part correct I still have to disagree with the Jake Weddle stuff, yes he could've quit at any time, legally speaking Jimmy is out of any wrong doing, but that's not how that work, there's scientific evidence to prove that psychologically making decisions like "just leave" are not that easy.
5 likesThat'ss the reason toxic relationships exist, have you ever seen a person in a super toxic relationship and wou doner "why dont they just leave" and you even ask them and they dont know the answer? Same concept applies to Jake Weddle, Jimmy should've stopped the video the moment they noticed Jake was not doing so hot, because in Dustin's own words they knew Jake was really NOT doing ok.
But yeah that's the only thing that I wanted to comment about because it keep being brought up about how Jake could've just left... and well... yes and no
youtube titles abt to be like: THE DOGPACK SITUATION IS INSANE (COPS CALLED!!!) PREGNANT!!! 18+ ONLY
1 likeThis video won’t have the same as dog pack because people love to hate. They don’t want to admit being wrong .
4 likesDogpack forgot to wear a tinfoil hat, that's what he was missing
1 like52:27 look at the bottom right corner
3 likesI'm glad to see more points of view instead of the same spouted details from other youtubers.
1 likeAbout Kara's explanation on "no does not mean no". I still think that it's obvious that context or no, it is very easy for something like that to be understood as innapropriate. You'd think as a corporation that would be in mind when typing out something like this. It's like putting "bigger is better" and saying "oh well, the context is that our product is better for being physically bigger", yeah, but you can't say that the phrase out of context doesn't immediately jump out as an innuendo. While "bigger is better" and other suggestive phrases have definitely been normalized in some slogans for companies, "no does not mean no" is a bit of a slippery slope and i struggle to find an argument that can convince me that it wasn't in mind when it was added to that document (and they didn't think it would look bad to someone looking in).
Also you say you were going to go over things that Jimmy should be criticized for at the end of the video, but spend barely a minute talking about one thing. It really does not look good for someone who's "not taking a side" to front load a massive amount of information saying "this man bad" and then barely touching anything on the other side. Your video is titled "The Truth About MrBeast & Dogpack404" but its honestly just about Dogpack. Just saying vaguely at the end of the video "there's so many things that jimmy should be held acountable for" and then not ellaborating doesn't work in your favor.
Again, I appreciate more points of view, wether they're correct or not, and in this insane media sphere its impossible to see the full picture. but fuck, any opinion that's not the same regurgitated opinion adds something (or at least, its not the same as what i've been seeing.)
send tweet.
Edit-
I am very interested in how you got your hands on the recording of Dogpack's firing, it is incredibly convenient that you would have access to that. I'm trying to find a clip saying how you got it but I'm not seeing it other than you writing in text "leaked audio". Leaked where?
ok ok
no more being weirdly fascinated with this video wayyy too late and more sleeping. Your video is definitely fun.
MorePegasus WHERE ARE YOU AT
3 likesI think Dogpack404 sucks, his arguments on their face were often unimpressive, he was a jerk when people tried to talk to him about it (e.g.: Ludwig), and this is a thorough debunking of his videos.
3 likesHowever, I have 2 gripes with this video:
@4:16 “State banishments” isn’t a reason why someone wouldn’t be “allowed” back in a state in modern times. A more logical reason would be either an active arrest warrant or threats from extrajudicial organizations like a gang.
@10:56 the warcrime rebuttal is weak. Yes forcing imprisoned people to live without lights on is a violation of the Geneva convention. Jake’s description as such is still accurate because he wasn’t informed that would be the case until the shoot already started and the intense pressure he experienced to keep going. Even if Dustin made it as a joke, that doesn’t mean it’s not technically correct. And to chalk it up as “well Dustin was joking so that debunks it” is disingenuous. One could describe it as an exaggeration, but not completely false. It’s semantics. Give the unedited footage to an International Criminal Lawyer and let them decide one way or another. They’d be more qualified than anyone else that’s chirped on the topic, me included.
Other than that, this video is well done and a thorough debunking.
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@@ravdar7236 I'll agree that soggy blew it a bit out of proportion, but I also think that Jake should have been more clear if was a joke.
0 likes@@ravdar7236 The comment our replies are under claimed that.
0 likes@@StrikerEureka13 I never said it was . I felt that it was a joke by the way jake presented it and soggy made a huge deal about it .
0 likesJake could have left, so he wouldn't be a war crime. It was absolutely shitty of the Beast team to do that, but still isn't a war crime.
0 likesI completely agree with the warcrime one . When I watched the original dogpack video I thought it was kind of a joke so I didnt really care and thought thats what the masses thought as well . But soggy paints it as if he was dead serious about that statement . And soggy talks about psychological tricks used by dogpack in the video while he has used several in this one as well . Like imagine if someone was throwing 10 k in your face daily but you were in solidary confinement , yes a person will be pressured to stay there and making them run a marathon for a silly challenge in the video , a person would pressure himself to do that as well .
1 likealready enjoying the video because of the cute little accent
3 likesAh yes, the Otis MacMusic tune I missed so much
1 like$1 coworker vs $1,000,000 coworker
1 likeMoment
I can't lie, the way Dogpack and Rosana have been handling this situation always felt really seedy to me. Im not saying Mr. Beast is clean or anything, but the two biggest voices against him were clearly motivated by profit, which made their work just feel... Questionable to me
0 likesWOW mr beast employess defend mr beast. whoaaaa dude........ tubular
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@@hellboy9458 allegedly mrbeast killed 20 million ppl to film a vid
0 likes@@somebody68434 Allegedly
0 likeshe is not a mrbeast employee
2 likesI've never been one to dive deep into the Mr. Beast drama but I'm really really dissapointed not mad but just dissapointed at DogLies304. How are you gonna get fired and make lies telling a percieved truth when in actuality it isn't. I bet he just got salty for some reason or just don't like Jimmy personally and made hate videos about him. All this was just unnecessary.
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Dogpack meatrider
1 likeSoggy cereal needs to be a lawyer. Bro is saving cooking rn 😭🙏
0 likesthat was super informative and well put together well done
1 likei love a story where literally everyone is a villain. mr beast is a gross piece of shit, but jesus christ never trust information from anyone that constantly insists that they're honest. only liars do that shit.
2 likesYou getting ex and current mr beast workers on video easily is a little sketch tbh, doesn't help that Mr Beast is shilling this video to content creators to take some heat off of him. I feel like this is going to be a repeat of Dogpack all over again, even if your intentions are well.
2 likesnot saying that dogpack is right, or not a liar, never even watched that video. but i am interested in this video. im at the 10m mark and already noticed this content creator is using manipulation to control the narrative to favor beast's instead, wherein dogpack might have done the opposite. ill note down all his empty, potentially manipulative, points that ive noticed and stand out more:
9 likes1) tries to set himself up as a neutral party, by showing that he dislikes lunchly (sus), solely criticizes the ksi and logan teamup as the bad choice, also mold, all points that can be pushed off to honest mistakes and factory problems- giving beast wiggle room to cast responsibility away.
2) with the ex employee interview there was no nuance, guy was completely devestated by dogpacks actions, no critical questions were asking from soggys side, it had a clear goal: to discredit the recording, and highlight how horrible the ex emp suffered from said release of tape. which could be fine. but clearly shows soggy was solely interested to push a narrative.
3) with the rso: the name tag thing, i agree with soggy, guy who said that seems to really like attention, and theres substantial proof that the name was from back then. with the viking however, a to me honest looking, albeit biased in favor of his brother-in-law, tweet. but not really showing bias to against beast, more to bring to light what he heard, and what he thinks about his brother. here, soggy uses the points: its absurd! jimmys mom was there, and shed never let an rso near her son! which is completely fallable; it could be that they thought he seemed genuine, maybe believed that it mightve been a wrong conviction, or giving people second chances, or they simply didnt care. who knows. also he used the argument that even dogpack's "friends", the drama kid, dislike viking, which makes vikings tweet less genuine for some reason? so not im not saying the tweet is undeniable truth, it still shows substantially less bias than the narrative driven counter points soggy makes. also personally i think any ex criminal should be given a chance to join society again, and even if jimmy knew, i wouldnt hold it against him.
anyway im already tired of this now. and just got to the 3th point. not gonna bother anymore haha. no idea what other points soggy will make. but just keep the bias i pointed out in mind. it does really seem like soggy isnt a neutral party in this situation, and tries to disprove dogpacks fallacies with his own fallacies, atleast so far in the video.
also personally i have nothing against mr. beast, dogpack, soggy or anyone in this situation. dont know any of them personally. I just wish people werent so god damn gullible and easily led on by all this dumb ass manipulation going on. it really feels like human intellect is highly overrated if you watch things happening internet. - try to stay critical boys and girls!
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@@altairofastora He started trending together any fame, and especially money, from doing constant ridiculous niche challenges online and leaching off of emotionality and algorithm exploiting basically lol. All of his PR and media/marketing moves reeks of autism spectrum as he just appeals and buys into the woah, wow and shock factors only other than feel good illusioned charity that psychologically scratches the brains with his viewbase and for his content in its foundation plus being out of touch because of classism/being an entrepreneur has made this an absolute shit show and I fear for any kid to model after this degeneracy conglomerate. His fanbase consists of your average consumer who's the furthest from cognizant and especially aware of any further implications outside of basic things so literally ANY, especially hard, defender of this whole charade should be deemed suspect or at the least, odd.
0 likes@@hunterreeves454 especially given MrBeast is sending DMs to YouTubers like Pyro with this video in the message, which all just feels like damage control via a second party. Very suspicious.
4 likesright this guy is literally a reverse media plant from the beast team and it's so obvious lmao
5 likesThanks random person
3 likescame to be annoyed,
2 likesstayed for the actuall journalism
goodjob SloppyCereal!
and yes coffee is doing great work too
im really gullible
2 likes1:06:09 "i inherited that man"😭😭💀
2 likesThis shit is more confusing than Game of Thrones
1 likeNow I see why Mr Beast actually deleted the comments claiming he was a bad person
0 likes41:16 this is also a legal lottery, it has a prize and chance. It doesn’t have any payments either, dogpack404 seems to be twisting the narrative a tad bit.
1 likeMoral of the story, we need to wait till more stuff comes out. It’s like corrupt government leader versus corrupt, rebel leader.
0 likesDogpack still gained million subs and views for lying.
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Hopefully he gets banned but YouTube probably won't care
0 likesI freaking knew it, no one dumb enough to make their expose video way too artsy fartsy is smart enough to do actual research and speak truthfully
0 likesThis literally felt like a classic iDubbbz video, love the effort you put into this man! Keep up the good work!
1 likeWAIT a second... I could be wrong, but like did Mr Beast employees reach out to you to paint him in a better light and now Mr Beast is promoting your video around like you did his dirty work for him? So, instead of answering any questions himself he can be like "I refer to this video here, made by not myself but a reputable YouTuber..." I just sorta feel like maybe this topic should be left alone, like Mr Beast is a big boy with lots of high paid lawyers around him, probably, so he can stand up for himself if DogPack 404 was completely slandering him...
1 likeYou truly warmed my heart with the Content Cop skit. :')
1 likei think dogpack is in the thick of it
2 likesI can't express how much I appreciate you debunking these claims. I'm only about 30 minutes into the video, but it's been incredibly disheartening and disturbing to watch so many YouTubers run with the pedophilia accusations with zero awareness of what actually constitutes CSEM/what actually helps and HURTS survivors (like, what say, DISTRIBUTING ASSUMED CHILD ABUSE IMAGERY via YOUTUBE THUMBNAILS). Thank you for the mention of flooded tip lines to the FBI, too! Organizations like the NCMEC and IWF have had to come out and beg people to stop sending nonactionable claims (like cartoons, even) and wasting valuable resources which could be spent helping ACTUAL children. I wanted to say something to help correct the misinformation, but was too terrified of a dogpile. It's such a relief to see real research with genuine concern for survivors. This makes a huge difference ❤🩹
4 likesi knew dogpack404 was a clout chaser and soggy fs is one too
3 likesMrBeast still willingly covered up Ava Tyson's wrongdoings and edited out the evidence of the video. That has little to do with this video but I'm just making sure everyone remembers that doing or not doing all this stuff is child's play compared to helping a Pedophile cover up their crimes.
2 likesI dont even know whats real anymore
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Not this unfortunately
0 likesSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
more people should watch this video thaks for exposing this lier and manipulator
2 likesaint this the guy on tiktok making weird noises while a ball bounces around
1 likeSoggy cereal video may also be fake. Voice can be faked by AI.
1 likebust aside idubbbz there's a new content cop in town
1 likeDANI GO BACK TO WORKING ON CARLSON!!!!!!!!!!
3 likesI felt like Dogpack404 is just salty about being fired so he decided to just expose Mr beast or somethin
1 likeI mean i know Dogpack was full of shit and i commented on it at the time. But holy moly thats even more intentional missleading and lying than i expected. The Anime thing made me laugh. I not a anime fan so i belived the part with that being its story. But even that isnt true? At this point the most credible accusation seems to be that the racoon was fake!
2 likesNow im more confused why Mr. Beast hasn't made a clarification video yet and needed Soggy Cereal (The goat himself) to bail him out...
1 like"As trustworthy as Richard Nixon during watergate" is a wild simile 😭
0 likeseveryone sucks here
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0 likesMr Beast is now bribing other youtubers to save his ass, what a surprise lmfao
7 likesMore Pegasus is having a trip right now with the amount of content he's getting
1 like"Talk is cheap" says the guy who has been yapping about Mr beast for months
1 like(Quote is in DMs between Soggy and Dogpack)
Still find the one comment at the end of your video kinda weird, "many youtubers and myself did not know about illegal scams" or was it suppose to be "many youtubers and myself did not know you COULD do illegal scams on youtube." Sounds odd you wouldn't know that you could illegally do fake giveaways/lottery, youtube video or otherwise.
1 likeIf I get replies stating I didnt watch the video,(edit, wring time stamp, had it at the 50 second marker instead of the 21 second marker) 1:24:21 is where Soggy states this. Not sorry.
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@Lioney no it doesn't. It just makes YouTubers look dumb in general for not knowing you can commit this kind of crime, YouTube or otherwise while roping in "Most YouTubers and myself". Hate all you want but that's how I see it.
1 likeWhats odd about what he said, it has the same meaning
2 likesI guess that Mr. Beast was really a good guy after all.
1 likedefending mr beast over the delaware situation is crazy, because Delaware literally told mr beast about why his nickname was Delaware. If you did an ounce of investigation you'd know this. Weirdo.
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Source?
0 likes@@stanmangamer2264just because he found that point to be weird doesn’t mean he’s on dogpacks side. This situation isn’t black and white
2 likesDisprove everything else first then you can hop back on dogpack
2 likesi need me the video of him sayin that 😭🙏
3 likesthe amount of people disregarding everything Soggy says and, with no proof, saying he was paid off by MrBeast is crazy
2 likesDamn....... I just released I'm a hater just to hate.
1 likeDoes that make me a sheep?
GODDAMNIT
now its YOUR turn to get scrutinized. Git Ova Here and Show me Your Closet!!!!
3 likesThis 'situation' is more kino than I ever thought possible.
0 likesThe BIGGEST plot twist of all time
1 likeHe should've kept the title "Content Cop - MrBeast" but it was Dogpack404, had the beauty and similarities to the original "Content Cop - Jake Paul" but it was Ricegum insead
1 likeNext month:
1 likeThe Truth About Dogpack404 & Soggy Cereal
Dawson: complains that videos are fake
0 likesAlso Dawson: forgets safety is a genuine concern
If participants of challenges are safe. That’s a better outcome
This made me feel the feels dude... not cause I give any shit about Mr Beast or DogPack, but because it made me realize that Content Cop is not dead... it lives on in these new iterations
0 likesyour normal accent sounds like the one idubbbz would do as a bit and it makes it so much better
1 likeYou dropped this 👑
2 likesMeahtriding Mrbest is crazy
0 likesIf all the claims exept one are wrong, MrBeast still has one thing against him. And there are more that one that are proven
1 likethis is the worst defense i've seen. you would've been a terrible lawyer. good thing you decided to stick with.... "content creation". the "war crime" stuff itself its presented as a joke and dawson explains its not the legal definition in the video. this is all the defense points you make during the video: this guy wasn't aware of being recorded and it was really bad for him. didn't lie. it was bad for him. the consequences. of speaking what he meant; this guy doesn't like this other guy (although both of them agree on the same accusation) - which in any jury defense would validate their accusation btw, you're barely thinking by this point; revealing this stuff has hurt other business (a pointless argument, no one owes mr beast's company any slack, he shoulda thought about this before); negating tangences to prove something was a lie (but said thing wasn't.... said. you're negating something you came up with).
5 likesyour audience must be INCREDIBLY young to be this gullible. or barely formally educated. which does makes sense by the way you present yourself.
anyway, good luck working with Jimmy.
I hope Hiltzik doesn't know about this, because it is ridiculous.
THIS is the 1 million dollar lawyer that everyone was talking about!!!
0 likesJimmy is still a baad person, hes done actually bad things, dog pack coulda just told the truth over the issues and been honest, but he just...got greedy with accusations, like both are now lying and threatening people over the truth...
2 likesAt least Ava isn't innocent so we can all agreee on that-
Does Mr beast make mistakes, yes (he is human). Does Mr Beast have mid chocolate, yes. Does Mr Beast partner with the cringiest guys on the internet, also yes. But I don’t think at all he is the evil genius like dog pack is fabricating. Mr beast is #1 so he will have all the eyes on him and because of that the more hatters and jealous people plotting on his down fall. I kinda feel bad for Mr Beast after everything has come out.
1 likeDogpack404 truth not found
3 likesThings are about to get sloppy...
2 likesLike does it ever end? It's endless drama and we're just consuming it without a thought
0 likesi have to say that this video is a good at disproving dogpack but... We have to look at the MrBeast with a critical eye here because he NEVER replied to the allegations himself and purposefully had his employees delete comments with the allegations under his videos i know you mentioned even illegal lottery and lunchly mold so the point is dogpack might not have had the best intention or ways of making him accountable with false allegations but he did successfully show that maybe MrBeast isnt a saint as everyone viewed him to be one not to mention the crypto pump and dumps he allegedly participated in. Also i find it hard to be on soggy cereals side because the same problems he pointed out of dogpack using the messages of coworkers or taking out of context voice messages has been done here (probably not the context part but whose to say that)
1 likeA content cop exposing a content cop, the cycle is starting and MrBeast is the one whos gonna recieve all the attention in the end
0 likesMorePegasus has been real quite since this dropped 💀
2 likes"they faked it for safety"
1 likeso... it IS fake. Thanks for confirming that.
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they faked it for 1 hour? lol he doesn't wanna die you know
0 likesMrbeast asking people to talk about this video makes sense. Good video... untill someone provides an even better story and everyone undoubtetly will switch sides again.
1 likesource: trust me bro ☠
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Average dogpack404 meatrider
10 likesBrother didnt even watch the video
10 likesThe next MorePegasus video should be called "The MrBeast Allegations Just Got Debunked.." or "DogPack404 Just Got Exposed Big Time.."
0 likesI was starting to lose hope in humanity if even Mr beast was faking videos and scamming viewers.
0 likesThis video is the proof that people always jump on hate and judge someone before actually hearing or investigating another side of the story . Also the amount of views between this video and dogpack video shows how people enjoys someone downfall whether they are guilty or not guilty.
3 likesInteresting how if dogpack could be proved wrong so easily mr beast just let his name be smeared also interesting how all these people can just randomly talk about the situation now also interesting how the only parts we talked about were small allegations (excluding Delaware) which jimmy is still wrong because he didn’t background check a employee for a kids channel like what lol this whole video feels like beast propaganda
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@@idkwhattonamethisshti wow mr genius you can't read or understand a video isn't my fault. Maybe have a better attention span than a tiktok kid and try to understand before commenting.
0 likes@@c4chottu10 like soggy isn't getting paid by mrbeast lol
0 likes@@c4chottu10the video is actually propaganda. Mr. Beast paid for the flight to the US and asked pyrocynical to cover the video. Video is not trustworthy, no matter how you feel about it, it’s fruit from a poisonous tree.
1 likethe video has nothing to do with proving mr beast as innocent or anything it is to show that dogpack is just manipulating for clout and both of that is seprate proving dogpack wrong doesn't make jimmy right it just make dogpack exposed of his attempt to get limelight
9 likesits amazing how you can come up with all of this evidence and people will be like "oh you made a tiny mistake therefore your video is completely invalid". its really stupid.
1 likethese people would see a person eating food with a trident, you say "this man was eating with a fork", and then they come up with the conclusion that since you got the utensil wrong, he never ate the food and that you are a liar.
Just because its legal (which I would love some evidence on) does not mean its morally acceptable to forge signatures. If I buy a signature I don't want a friend faking the signature I want the ACTUAL Person's signature.
1 likeI would say this is a very weak point and should not have been crossed off.
Creds for mentioning coffezilla
3 likesNext video: The Truth About Soggy Cereal
1 likeWe all know MorePegasus is gonna milk this to death 🐄🐄🐄😂😂😂
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He actually made a community post about the fact he did try to get into communication with Jimmy but his team cancelled last minute.
0 likesDo with that what you will.
3 days later and it seems not
0 likesSoggy, my wife is an award winning journalist. We both subscribed as you and your journalistic ethics are a breath of fresh air.
0 likesCheers and we cannot wait to see what you do next.
I know it's small beans in the scheme of things, but the imitation MrBeast signatures are scummy, regardless of whether they are 'with permission'. The point of autographs is that they are made by the person themselves, and imitations are inherently of much lower value (contrary to 1:00:46). They might as well print the shirts with the signature as part of the design if they aren't intended to be autographs. It's of so low stakes that questions of legality/fraud aren't meaningful, but still not good.
2 likesThe point about the raft is that they could have been transparent about the safety issues. Or they could have ended the challenge early because they left the raft
1 likeBut that would have been less viral
The hero we didn't know we needed
1 likeJake Weddle is an example of "biting the hand that feed you"
0 likesWho paid for your flight and helped you organize interviews?
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@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms How am I glazing Dogpack? I can call out that this guy seems paid off while also thinking that dogpack is an awful guy. 😭
1 like@@Josh651ProHoly DogPack glazing 😭
2 likesLearn to realize that DogPack isn't a good person dawg
He was paid by the MrBeast company to defend them 😂
1 likeHe did it himself
0 likesThank you mr Soggy for that Intro, that literally put me back to time when Youtube was Golden. I miss that time.
0 likes2024 has been the mosy entertaining year for YouTube dramas.
0 likesIf yall want to be simping and glazing a side in these wild MrBeast controversies, at least try to desire seeking for the truth, or at the very least watch the whole video until the end. Don’t get mad cause the video isn’t 60 seconds long.
0 likesThis dude has dozens more reciepts, pictures, and texts than the disgruntled former employee.
I wait for an Exposer exposing the Exposer of the Exposer of Mr. Beast
1 likeIt's kind of weird for Mr, Beast to privately message this video to all the drama channels. Almost like it didn't recive that much attention or is spoken about.
0 likesI bet no one calls you OverDramatic again. Sheesh. Great Video.
2 likesBesides the following two things, mostly the second one, the video was well done. Keep up the honest work.
3 likes6:41 Although that is a pretty scummy way to go about things without consent, it is completely legal here (assuming the slander is what he actually believes to be true, or else it would be defamation), and the only way you can usually expose large coverups because nobody is going to willingly expose crimes of their company if they are getting paid enough to cover it up. And they are obviously going to roll back on whatever they said when they know they are being recorded. Not saying that is what is happening here but with how much money flows around MrBeast it is hard to guarantee anything.
1:00:50 How is that not devaluing the signature, I would understand it being fine to allow others to sign legal papers, but this is for a giveaway, meaning any signature that is given away that is not actually MrBeast can't be sold as an authentic MrBeast signature. And even if they wanted to keep it for themselves, if they ever learned that it was not authentic, it would remove a lot of sense of connection that comes with owning an authentic article. Which would devalue it on an emotional level too.
Okay kinda lost me for a moment about the signature thing that just ain't right, and what about promoting gambling to kids? Other than those two things good vid.
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Yeah definitely the weakest points and kinda sours the entire thing for me.
1 likeWas any one actually asking for Jimmy Breast to be tried at The Hauge for war crimes?
1 likeAs for adding "free entry" thing in the youtube description and fake UI. 1) who reads youtube descriptions? This is still slimy and doing the bare legal minuium doesn't make it not immoral. 2) If he got the video from a re-upload then it makes sense to add it to a "fake UI" to it. If he wanted to hide the description you'd just crop it out
"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
0 likesI'm happy hes not defending chris Tyson and somewhat mrbeast...but glad u giving context to everything,dam I been busy wit election memes I forgot about this
1 likenot the content cop we wanted but the content cop we needed
0 likesYour idubbz impresssion of mocking someone complaining is PERFECT lmao
0 likesContent Cop: Infinity war, the two dimensions of YouTube collide.
0 likesGarrett telling us how he was hurt financially while he sits in his flat on literally the most expensive real estate in the world is pretty unintentionally hilarious.
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that shit is also green screened...like....why?
0 likesIt doesn't mean he didn't lose a lot of money at the time.
1 likeEvidence not a bit stronger, another case of just "he said, he said" either made on orders of MrBeast or made with the opportunistic hope to brown-nose MrBeast and gain fame/money out of this.
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0 likes47:05 I was watching that Ludwig Stream Live back in July and I always knew there was something up with that interview
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That is when all the fans started turning on each other because of Dogpack saying that Ludwig was controlled op. Ether you were with Dogpack or a MrBeast glazer and could not question Dogpack. 😠 Dogpack scared Ludwig out of 100K.
0 likesA MrBeast simp investigates and issues a deflection video. Kris version 2.0. Btw not a Dogpack nor a MrBeast fan.
1 likein 3 months we bouta have "The Truth About MrBeast, Dogpack404, & Soggy Cereal"
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@@Hazard-j6y yes and no. watch it later
0 likesI am busy to watch The video, mrbeast Is a fraud or not?
0 likesthis is a joke btw im sure soggy is a good guy
0 likesI do have to question why you would have such access to current mr.beast employees if it wasn’t because mr.beast had editorial control over this video
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@@daysandwords So you think that current MrBeast employees can just go out and freely put in statements behind the back of HR without repercussions when they work for a company this influential? That’s funny. 😂
3 likesWhat???
2 likesHe obviously reached out to those people. You know that "employees" are also free to like... do other things while they're not working, right?
People forget that jimmy has been a kid for most of his career. Kids do a lot of stupid things.
1 likeCan you confirm whether you were approached by Mr. Beast to make this video or if he provided you information (or contacted you at all?)? Or did you do this all on your own volition? I feel like you would’ve mentioned if Mr. beast was involved in this but I just wanna hear it from you. I feel like that context would help when assessing the video 🙏
2 likes23:50 The MorePegasus shade is crazy but also well deserved
1 likeI'm starting to think that that third video aint gonna be coming out anytime soon, and mrbeast just won't respond.
0 likesThere are some parts here where you frame dogpack in a more negative light than necessary but overall great video. I love when both sides get dunked on. New Pegasus video tomorrow I bet
0 likesMfs looking at mrbeast surviving his downfall:
1 likeThe intro.... The Golden era of idddubztv
1 likealright, now we wait for someone to expose this guy
1 likethe fixation on the war crime thing is weird. yes it's obviously not exactly a war crime. but the treatment was still possibly deserving of such a title if the treatment went how he claimed and the detainee clause is ignored. and you treat it as if a war crime is always some terrible horrendous thing with that war whataboutism when in reality, violating the geneva convention can be as simple as using a red cross to symbolize health in a video game
1 likelol the 3rd party lawyers mr beast hired no biased there
2 likesMan, now that Mr. Beast got back up I'm glad someone else is down because I only kick people while they're down. Thanks for proving Jimmy is actually perfect and the real enemy we should all hate is DogPack404!
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me when I don't understand a basic video
0 likesJimmy definitely isn't perfect. Both Dogpack and Jimmy are pretty bad.
1 like4 months later: “Soggy Cereal Situation is insane”
0 likesI'm embarrassed that I believed everything dog pack said
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@@shadowed69 honestly you can't trust anyone to give accurate news on this
0 likes@@shadowed69 1. where did Jake say that?
0 likes2. Him saying that doesn't automatically prove that is true, although it would be very good evidence
@@StrikerEureka13 my comment got deleted I think. Jake the viking, Delaware's son in law, confirmed this months ago. He was hired after "explaining" his situation to Mr. Beast and his mom.
0 likes@@StrikerEureka13 Um, idk, maybe because Jake the Viking, Delaware's son in law, openly admitted already that Delaware sat down Jimmy & his mom before he was hired to reveal the truth...and they decided to hire him anyway because they were moved by his sob story...literally just Google "jake the viking delaware defense", and you can see the tweet he made. This was awhile ago now, and honestly I forgot he confirmed it was before was even hired, so this vid really doubles down on the manipulation & lies.
0 likes@shadowed69 How do you know he didn't fire him immediately after finding out? It was incredibly dumb to not do a background check, but still not an excuse to make things up about him.
0 likes@shadowed69 He fired the sex offender heads ago. Do you have any evidence that he kept him on while knowing that?
0 likes@@StrikerEureka13 Soggy here is lying and manipulating you too. Exaggerating and nitpicking every Dogpack claim and ignoring the genuine shit that still matters. Like that Jimmy knowingly kept an RSO on his team. It doesn't matter if he knew when he first hired him or not. He still found out at one point and kept him on. Notice how that claim wasn't on Soggy's board of "all of Dogpack's claims". Only the "intentionally hired" one. Soggy does this for multiple claims, so he can have a big board full of X's by then end and say "look! I disproved all of dogpack's claims!" when they are cherry-picked portions of initial claims that have varying levels of the-details-don't-matter-it-was-still-bad energy.
1 like@@Michael97MooreYeah, he did. Repeatedly. In pretty much every video.
0 likes@Michael97Moore I'm sorry did we watch the same video? Because if we did then it would be pretty clear to the both of us that Dawson/dog pack lied about a lot of stuff
1 likeDog pack didn't lie. 😂
1 likeShill.
6 likesi personally think rosanna is also a scummy person. there's something off about her and she's just revelling in being a 'victim'
1 likeshit man.!!!!!
2 likesContent cop's back...in a soggy state
"The Truth About MrBeast, Dogpack404, and Soggy Cereal..."
1 likeI wonder if Rosanna will correct course or double down
2 likesHonestly this is reverse flash level revenge and jealousy
0 likesThis was a brilliant investigation into the whole situation. ever since the Projared situation I always entertained the suspension of disbelief. Mr Beast is not a saint or a super villain hes a person who makes some bad decisions. though dogpack is a worse than Mr. Beast in my opinion for basically just doctoring and lying about 95% of what he was saying and manipulating people on this level. I think the coffeezilla coverage of the crypto was really good in fact him and someordinarygamers covered that situation way better than the main accusers did.
1 likeThe content cop bit was actually insanely good lmao would have loved a longer segment of old yt type bits lol
0 likeshonestly i feel bad for Rosanna, she clearly looked like she wanted to spread truth but fell onto this guy
0 likesGreat video. Brave of you go go against the current like this. Well documented debunking of most of the claims against Jimmy.
0 likesI love your flemish accent, keep up the great work!
A fellow Belgian
How much is Mr. Beast paying you for this video, my guy?
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Did you even watch the video he clearly says this is not a defensive act of Mr Beast and he does know he does some bad things. Think before you say
4 likesPlease come up with something original for once.
5 likesThe Real Life Incredibles Syndrome
0 likesinb4 "ITS FINALLY OVER FOR DOGPACK404..." video
0 likesIt would be hilarious if YouTuber A exposes Soogy Cereal and then after that YouTuber B exposes YouTuber A
1 likeHow much did they pay you for the flight and hotel for those interviews you definitely needed to do in-person?
1 likenot against you but was i watching the video you were saying that the war crime thing was a joke and to not be taken serious. Do you realise he may have said that because there are similarities between severe misstreating the employees and war crimes? Like if someone says that they have some pain that feels like they are being stabbed doesnt mean they are actually being stabbed or that the pain isnt real because of it
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Yeah ngl that was def the weakest part of this video
1 likeI've never been into the beast drama, but the little ive seen of dogpack hes always appeared so incredibly hungry to just get attention
1 likeDucky needs to see this, the glazing finna pay off fr fr 🙏💯
2 likes42:29 for anyone who thinks he's defending mr beast
2 likes1:09:20 - "no doesnt mean no is wildly taken out of context, we mean it as a sales tactic, it's more like "why can't you do that and how can we help you""
1 likeBut the document explicitly mentions convincing managers of dollar tree locations to "BEND RULES" as an example? Bending rules has consequences even if you're the manager of a store.
Also, why isn't this accusation on the board? Small stuff like "digitally lifted car" is on there but not this leaked document case?
Obviously Dogpack404 is evil, he worked for MrBeast.
1 likeJust because his mate joked that it's a warcrime doesn't mean it's not a warcrime, what they did to that man was a warcrime by definition , if a man gets shot and his mate jokes about him getting shot doesn't mean he didn't get shot... My god this video sucks
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on a more serious note, suggesting that what jake weddel experienced is a war crime is a genuine insult to the people in the russian-ukraine war and the israel hamas war. i highly doubt that those people would be paid 50k. (weddle bagged 50k)
3 likeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crime
0 likesdamn i didnt know jake weddle got his fingers smashed in
0 likesthe video beyond sucks. he was paid by mr beast to do this video
0 likes@@Longstaff5That's like saying Mrbeast forces people to do all kinds of dangerous challenges without their consent, that's illegal, but they could just leave whenever they want to, so of course that doesn't count. It's a morally questionable thing to do, but insinuating it's actual war crimes when he was allowed to leave and he was also getting paid for it is sort of pretentious.
2 likes@TamásSzalia-Galambos if someone permits something illegal but the other person could leave at any point, is it still illegal ?
1 likeIt's still not a war crime though cause he was allowed to leave.
3 likesguys this video was all planned or calculated by mrbeast. he's using this video for people into thinking that dogpack404 is the bad guy. don't fall for it guys. this man making the video is real sus you can tell he may or may not work for mrbeast or is just a fan and mrbeast is making all his employees do his dirty work for him this video is very calculated . for everyone's sake don't fall for this he is giving manipulation vibes all over and you can hate me or agree with me all you want but this video is very very sus . do not feed in to jimmys manipulation and don't let this guy making the video fool you. also I'm not a fan of mrbeast either
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Bro this is NOT a conspiracy theory. Its NOT that deep
1 likeno it isn’t 😭😭
0 likesDog pack is did you even watch the vid
3 likes1:05:38 Hoodie is wearing an amazing hoodie, fly high Techno!
2 likesWho new you couldn’t believe everyone on the internet
1 liketbh this video doesn't disprove anything Mr. Beast did, it just makes me hate DogPack lmao
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@ yeah totally agree, I do think it’s ironic that even though most of Dawsons claims are fraudulent or accusations his video had a chain reaction and now real allegations are coming up 😂
0 likesi think that's the point. soggy never said mrbeast or his actions were good, just disproved most of dawson's arguments, which i think is the right thing to do
0 likesI knew Dogpack was a fraud from the very first video. But even I, and connected people I've spoken to, did not know it was THIS bad 💀
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0 likesYooo wassup
0 likesWe literally cannot trust anyone on the internet anymore, huh...
0 likes@Dogpack404 are you going to respond or are you experiencing a 404 status error?
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@@FishFan32no it’s a fake
0 likes@@DogPark404 real dog pack 404!!!
0 likesI'm working on a response
0 likesI still think that work document sounds toxic imo. Every dogpack said about it still holds true in my eyes. Not taking no for an answer taken to the extreme is a horrible mantra. The example of trying to go around someone who works at a store or using the fandom to get them to say yes to something they shouldn’t say yes to and might get fired for is just fucking irresponsible.
0 likesNah bro i could already guess the title of the next ten videos in more pegasus channel💀
0 likesI’m currently creating a 4 part 5 hour video debunking the lies of the lies that the accusations were used to lie with.
0 likesgonna be honest here, i dont know what to believe anymore
0 likesonly working there for 20 work days is crazy💀
0 likesI swear if someone posts a video and it turns out that Soggy Cereal gets exposed for lying I'm gonna just stay off the internet for a while
0 likesI'm pathetic
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@@Lanetgm why do you think I wrote 40404 at the end
0 likes@@Daymare19it’s a fake
0 likesOMG HI DOGPACK40404
0 likesThe information wars are hard to always be informed about
0 likesIts hard to remember that the world is not black and white, and that everything is really about perspective. There really is no one truly evil here.
0 likesNow the only thing remaining is a expose video on you.
1 likeanother thing, i sort of kinda feel like dogpack404 isnt entirely lying, instead hes just taking other rumors and running with them not knowing whether or not their true.
0 likesWar of the Beast has a whole new meaning
0 likesJust a bunch of kids LARPing as business professionals. I'm a software engineer, self-taught, extremely successful for a fort 500 - and i can tell from almost every side, angle, and vector - none of this is professional or normal business behavior. This is what happens when a platform (YouTube,Twitch, etc) exists and gives legitimacy, and elevates grifters to relevance. Content creators are essentially like the WWE/WCW/ECW/AEW, etc -- Just abunch of performative douchebaggery cranked up to 11 screaming to the audience "IM A REAL PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS PERSON" - It is entertaining, but lawrd is it also cringy.
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@@DermotBrophy k
0 likes@@Sorroh k
0 likesain’t nobody reading that shit
0 likesyou sound like a 12 year old
2 likesthis is a content cop-ception I never dreamed about
0 likesistg if each and every one of you were suddenly exposed as an multi-millionaire criminal with countless charges, yall wouldn’t be jumping the gun and “speaking out and apologizing immediately”. What kind of brainrot logic is that?!?!
1 likewhy in the hell Mr' Beast didn't speak up about this? Or was he about to make a very elaborative video response?
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In the report that was on MrBeast's twitter and this video. MrBeast's lawyers wouldn't let him talk until they finished their investigation of the company. I doubt they still will let him talk about the crypto, Beast Games because of the lawsuit, and the illegal lotteries. Just because anything he says can go against him in court. He did have a response prepared according to Keepstar and for some reason didn't make it. Probably that was when Soggy reached out to go to NC. MrBeast's lawyers might let him talk about Kris and Delaware however.
0 likes42:28 - 43:20 No words have ever been said better on youtube drama 10/10 video.
2 likesThe crazy thing is that this man probably spent 15 mins for some facts while the commentary YouTubers spent probably an hour scrolling through twitter posts to make a dumb 20 minute video
0 likesI knew something was off. In Dogpack's 1st video he said that he knew about Chris. I bet he was lying. Why would you talked about cgi and bad giveaways first instead of going straight to guy sending porn to minors. Dogpack was busy recording people without consent to find serious issues. This also explains why Dogpack and Rosanna put what they thought was CSAM on the thumbnail. They don't care about exposing wrong doings they just wanted to ruin Jimmy's image. Jimmy has done some has irresponsible things and the Amazon show issues are proof of that. However Dogpack's spiteful a$$ should not be making any more claims.
1 likeWe owe Mrbeast a real apology
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@@randomised7562Soggy of course makes the occasional joke or insult towards DogPack but he literally goes into all accusations in depth. Provided numerous witnesses/ testimonies literally deducing all of the misinformation within the videos with a clear explanation.
2 likesCalling this “minimal evidence” just makes your ridiculous bias ever so clear or just is a dead giveaway that you’re too lazy to even watch the full video without having Subway Surfers in the background 😂
@@randomised7562CP claim, Disproved in the video.
2 likesIllegal lotteries claim, Also disproved in the video and it literally doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to go research it.
@@randomised7562”Minimal evidence”. Lol 😂
2 likesAlright Buddy, I’m happy to argue with you. Let’s discuss the “minimal evidence” here in the comment section. Elaborate, Explain how Soggy has given minimal evidence.
Or didn’t you just not watch the video 🤡💀
@@randomised7562 ofc I didn't lol. You think I have the patience to listen to that propaganda. No thanks haha
1 like@@randomised7562 I did but ok
1 like@@Querian "One sided" a calim which u are pulling out of you your ass. I won't argue further.
1 like@@purple-69- he definitely didn't and neither did you, all soggy did was dismiss dogpack's points and attack his character with minimal evidence. This doesn't disprove the many shady things that beast has done at all. Its clearly also a video that was paid by beast to be made since he's promoting it especially to other creators like dylan zitkus and the fact that he's commented (which he deleted) on his video, as well as the video title being "The real truth about mr beast" originally. Point is that soggy is far from a trustworthy source right now and is heavily biased against and is being paid off by beast
1 like@@purple-69- huh? What does me watching an hour and a half long video have to do with my statement. I literally just said that it is one sided and take it with a grain of salt. If. You're willing to believe anything and everything you're not worth my time.
3 likes@@Querianat least he watched
2 likesUnlike u prolly
You just watched an hour long video of a one sided take. I suggest you try to do some investigating yourself. Take this video with a grain of salt like everything else.
7 likesYoure the guy who tried fighting slop with even crazier slop and now yt recommends you, stand proud you're one of the sloppiest :)
1 like21:53 the pit being real fueld my disbelief from 80 to 100 in a second 😱😱
0 likesso happy someone finally called dogpack on his bullshit, he didn’t do himself any favors by trying to nickel and dime every move mr beast made. it just showed to me from the first video that he is petty upset employee. they whole slowed down status bar on video adds thing. and acting like it’s the end of the world. it’s just stupid. omg a huge financially driven company used a deceitful tactic to get threw everyone’s feed me now content brains. Wow no one else has ever done anything like that. he apparently doesn’t understand how media and entertainment works. Also from my own experience as a 25 year old general manager at a restaurant in charge of 30 employees and how tough that was at that age after only worrying about myself i can’t imagine jimmy’s experience with how big his company got in such a short time. is he innocent, not at all, but i don’t for a second believe he is this demonic mastermind trying to vindictively tear people down. dogpacks a joke, thank you soggy for this. And as pettt as dog pack is i can’t wait to see his hit on you. also not gonna lie i didn’t watch this video when it first dropped because i thought it was more bullshit replaying dogpacs video in your own video like everyone else 😂😂😂 i only watched it because of pyros video explaining the content of yours.
0 likeshey that part when you asked that lady about how she felt about working with dog pack. why didnt you ask her how she felt working with that one co worker and their vibes. lol you know that one co worker. just so we can gauge how good her intuition is.
1 like5:55 I agree with a lot of your points, but this one doesn't really work since Jimmy has a history of having his own employees pose as "normal employees". Dustin himself was posing as a worker at the bunker in the "24 hours in a doomsday bunker" video. Just because Delaware is in this video wearing a BestBuy shirt isn't conclusive proof that he wasn't already on Jimmy's payroll.
0 likesI think some of Dogpack 404 claims are truth (ofcourse not all) I hope this drama would end and know all of the truth.
1 likeNot sure how you can make this whole video, then call Dawson "incompetent." This man set out to do exactly what he did.
0 likesDo I trust Dogpack404: No
3 likesDo I trust MrBeast: No
Do i trust Soggy: HE'LL YEEEEESSSSSS!
Well this is stupid! hahaha
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he's a mr beast plant
1 likeWe live in a society
1 likeWoah, I didn't know Ed Sheeran works for the Beast Crew and his alias is Hoodie. He thought we wouldn't notice??
0 likesThe meatriding is extreme
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Awww your favorite manipulator Dogpack is losing? How pathetic 😂
1 likeI thought dogpack404 was actually genuine, bc guy he intervieved in the second video sounded EXTREMELY honest
0 likesDude wtf why did this all even happen people made the stupidest drama ever especially when you have soggy who makes it clear why the accusations are stupid
1 likeGod dogpack and the plastic woman beside him is so annoying
1 likemilking the milker milking milk
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He has made one video on him, how is this milking
1 likeTHE INTROOOOOOO <3 AHH I have never been so happy to hear that music again 0:54
0 likesI wouldnt trust Soggy Cereal tbh. He seems to have some weird personal vendetta going on with Dogpack on forums and whatnot.. U guys should grow up
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dogpack404's biggest meat rider
6 likesCool, what about faking videos on the philanthropy channel? Like the visual changes and the number of wells? Or ineffectivity of team sea and team trees? I swear i didn´t hear a thing about this in this video. And this can negatively impact charities that are more helpful, or at least effective and 100% transparent with donators.
1 likeI’m done with the lies, thank you for the corrections.
0 likesReally cool video, appresiate your hard work to put correct information out there for an unbiased opinion as possible.
0 likesI love how people ran with DogPack's video without being rational. I mean, I get there are issues with Mr. Beast, but DogPack not only mixed his videos with half-truths and hearsay but also included unfactual stuff that is ultimately hurting other justified criticism of Mr. Beast. I always say this: ask yourself why those are there. I always give Coffeezilla as an example: he researches his stuff, asks for comments, understands the serious situations, and doesn't try to muddy the waters. Coffie always takes his time and doesn't plan his videos to ride the hype. But on the other hand, we have a loser who got fired and planned his video with the Kris stuff just so he could get the most attention.
0 likesI've felt this whole time that all of this should have all been obvious, to anyone who didn't have a hard on for only one side or the other.
0 likesMr Beast Glazer.
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bein a dogpack glazer must be hard
3 likes1:01:54 my childhood memories just blasted through me, so many goblins slain
1 likefinally a new sheriff is in town
0 likesSmoking that dog pack 🚬
1 likeu completely changed my mind i used to hate mrbeast
1 likeso they're both Bad
2 likesThis really just shows how people will jump at anything.
0 likesconclusion: mr beast is kind of scummy, but no where near as scummy as he's made out to be
1 likeDUDE CAN PEOPLE NOT GET CANCELLED FOR 1 SECOND????
0 likesThis guy should be hired by FBI
1 likeHow about Mr beast deleting comments and removing incriminating parts of his YouTube’s videos? Explanation for that? lol…..
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Did you watch the video?
2 likes56:49 source trust me bro??? Who even is this guy please make it clear or at least clarify a bit
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@@Ahmad-z3o3z the day eye witness becomes irrelevant is the day humanity dies
0 likes@@cool3Dhorse he "claims" to be? It was a live stream so his comment most be there somewhere all I am saying that he needs more evidance to back it up.
2 likesHe is a guy from the scrapped challenge, if you need some sort of proof for that then you don't know how things work
0 likes@DanielJacobs-rz1zl how do I know this isn't a random dude from the street maybe show his account and highlight his account and maybe provide evidance that he actualy owned that account.
3 likesIt's explained in the vid.
0 likesCan we have the link to the Google Drive file for the Audio Recording of Dogpack404 being fired?
0 likesAlright, I was actually down with a lot of the claims in this video. But the war crimes section lost me. You’re doing the same shitty unreliable reporting dog pack was doing. Just because the friend says it as a joke initially has nothing to do with the fact that it actually ended up being true. Like it was in the context of saying it as a joke, but it was actually a war crime committed against him. And if you think he really had the choice to just leave at any time, then you should actually listen to what he was saying about SA victims. Don’t throw stones when you live in a city made of glass.
3 likes21:37 WAIT I CLOCKED THAT WHEN I FIRST WATCHED HIS VID…i’m a calorie nerd & when he did that i was like “oh usually people don’t know much abt nutrition, maybe he didn’t realize” but i noticed he claims to have studied nutrition which means he wouldn’t have made a mistake like that….and now we’re seeing it might have been intentional???? damn ..
0 likesEveryone having a lot of discussions about this whole thing in the comments.
0 likesAnd I'll just leave here a compliment to this dude Hoodie for coming into an interview wearing a Technoblade hoodie.
Much respect, man.
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Respect for what, exactly? I'm sorry if it's rude. What does using a Technoblade hoodie have to do with anything other than him being a well-respected person?
0 likesSo my name is Dakota so people make jokes I’m not allowed in North and South Dakota. No that’s not it at all, in fact I’ve never been there. Sometimes my friends call me Kota as a nickname when people say I’m not allowed in those states.
0 likesI'm deleting youtube
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Gyatt?
0 likesCan I learn this power?
1 likewhen he went on ludwigs stream and was using an NDA as a cover i knew he was scummy. didnt care enough to look into it tbh but having signed an NDA and working under one for years... yeah what he used NDA for doesnt add up.
1 likeThis is a good video apart from the assumptions made about Jake Weddle's trauma, his experience is his own. The fact he got paid, while being in a financially difficult situation, is the power imbalance that was held over his head which made getting out so difficult. The rest, I agree with, but Jake Weddle really did experience something pretty horrific and I think this video diminishes that and has a really poor understanding of power imbalances.
0 likesMrBeast $69 Trillion Lawyer
1 likeYeah, that's it, I'm adding youtube to blacklist
0 likes“In todays video I paid 100 youtubers $1,000,00to make me seem like a good guy!”
0 likes(I’m just trying to be funny, I don’t know if mebeats is evil or not)
I don’t care who believes me or not ( I was just told this growing up, I don’t know this is true💀) allegedly my moms dad was banished from two states, I don’t remember what they were, for getting hit by the mail truck too many times💀 he was blind btw and his name was bill
0 likesI'm not going to take either Beast's or Dawson's side on this outside of specifics. As others have mentioned, there's some strangeness in the video itself. How was Soggy able to get direct access to current Beast employees when noted journalist and scambuster Coffeezilla wasn't? CZ is probably the most trusted name in these things and you'd think that Beast would want one of the biggest scambusters on his side... unless there was something they wanted to hide from him or were afraid that current employees would slip up on through classic social engineering. Before today, I had never heard of Soggy's channel. I'm not going to say that Soggy is a Beast glazer because I only have anecdotal observations rather than hard proof and anything besides that is baseless borderline slander. However, based on what was put in the video and both the direct access on-site plus the recording of the termination meeting raises a lot of red flags for me and makes me press a few X's to doubt.
0 likesThere's no doubt that what Dawson has been doing as of late has been very questionable, I saw that myself in the Rosanne collab, and because of that the rest of his allegations can and will be brought into question and put under increased scrutiny. And honestly, it needs to be under increased scrutiny because there's a lot a stake for everyone involved. For Beast (as a company), it is the reputation of the brand. For Jimmy it is his personal reputation, same with Dawson and Rosanne. Jimmy is being portrayed as this evil mastermind willing to cross legal and ethical boundaries to make money; and while that may be true to an extent, we don't know to what extent, if any. It's all been dubious. Though, his attempted and current business associations with those like Logan Paul and KSI do not look too favorably for those who have looked into their shenanigans financially as those have been legitimately shady. For Dawson and Rosanne, it's them being disgruntled collaborators (employee in the case of Dawson). I can understand Rosanne's disgruntledness, especially if she was sold on the "authenticity" of the game she was involved in but it turned out to all be scripted and she wasn't read into it (which would be a strike against Beast in misleading the participants). And it shouldn't have to be stated that "understand" doesn't mean "condone," but I will state it regardless. And it is very clear that Dawson feels personally slighted, hence his actions and it is clear that he is gaining something from all this: money and clout.
Even if Soggy was paid off by Beast (paying for his airfare and hotels to Beast HQ, exclusive access to employees, and internal information that literally no one else has or can verify the authenticity of) to give some kind of soft glazing and write a carefully constructed counter argument with their approval, his video is still important in pointing out the glaring issues that Dawson has brought on himself. He constructed a fake YouTube page to show off one of this pieces of evidence. He has cited the work of another creator who after the fact stated that they didn't say what he said. He, allegedly (because I can't trust anyone involved in any of this), used a conversation recorded without consent (which can legally backfire depending on what state him and the other were in) as evidence which cost that person opportunities and unspecified relationships. The questionable claims about legalities involving lotteries (granted, it is different per state and the internet is Interstate Commerce and throws a wrench into things like that).
The only claims he has left that have some merit are as follows:
*Eva being a massive degen (disputed by no one).
*Jake's experience potentially having criminal ramifications as it would be coersion under duress. He was under financial distress and had a reason to keep going on top of the power imblance because of the money involved, but they kept going to the point where he's had documented issues. The money paid after the fact doesn't look good as it would appear to be "hush money" despite being aired out in public. And Jake would need to formally submit a criminal complaint to the authorities in the jurisdiction as well. Which, to be honest, I don't think will ever happen. Jake just wants to let it go at this point, I can tell.
*Questionsble giveaway practices (I am not stating illegal, but some of the stuff done is morally dubious).
*Beast employing an RSO, the only question remains is WHEN did they know about what he did. North Carolina is an "at will" state, meaning that Beast (as a company) could have fired him at any time but chose not to. Especially if it became common knowledge and therefore became a brand risk considering focus on a younger (sub-20, let's be honest, here) audience.
TL;DR - Soggy's video was good and lends a lot of light on to the whole situation, especially with undisclosed personal histories. The only thing that hurts this is, again, access to things that no one else has had access to which may lead people to believe this is the foreshadowed PR video that Dawson has been expecting for some time now, but from another creator instead of Beast themselves.
By the way, in before Legal Mindset reviews this video on stream because I know he will as part of the ever expanding Beast v. Dogpack404 saga. Same with Armcha1rExpert. The former for the legal and the latter for PR.
As someone who’s been subscribed to soggy before this, this is why i fucking love him
0 likesHey, I DM'd you some of the info i had, did you use it in your video?
0 likesthat animation video was made by goobus doobus and was making fun of people who were hating on Mr. beast for curing 1,000 blind people. so don't put his thumbnail there unless you actually know what the vids about.
0 likesCome to think of it. Most of his proof's source was literally just "Dude trust me"
0 likeslol, jimmiy is actually asking all dramatubers to cover his a ss. He reached out to morepegasus and pyro, but called of the actual interview at last minute.. You clearly just got paid by him.
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So did you actually see anything in the video that's incorrect, or are you just upset it makes Dogpack look unreliable?
1 likeI’m glad Dawsons false statements are being clarified but this screams sponsored by Mr beast🫤
2 likesHonestly this video is just plain deceptive and doesn't address any of the main arguments in each allegation. Doesn't help with the fact that a self proclaimed detective continuously acts obnoxiously and condescendingly needing to insult his opponents intelligence every 5 minutes.
10 likes1. Delaware: Soggy finally addresses Delaware's name rumors but not his sex offender accusations, the interview with Garett further strengthens this as "just" rumors but didn't mention what it was related to, however jake the viking addressed on his tweet about the sex offender allegations and claimed no charges were pressed so nothing's been proven or disproven.
2. War crimes: We only have anecdotal evidence of this event since no video was released. Soggy claims Jake Weddle talks highly about MrBeast but completely sweeps under the rug the fact that Weddle admitted to accepting Jimmy's compensation (he claimed he used Jimmy's "blood" money to fund his work on twitter) after dogpack's second video went viral. So Weddle was talking shit about Jimmy and suddenly started talking highly of him AFTER he was paid?
3. Illegal lottery 3: Soggy claims dogpack purposely hiding the "free entry" description, however the main complaint was customers not receiving the shirt after purchase, which should be easily proven false by MrBeast if he showed tracking numbers.
4. CGI: Honestly it does kinda look like CGI, and I'd understand why people would believe it is so, after all soggy did admit the car was edited from red to blue. Regardless, this is not very important.
5. Feastables: So I thought this was very easy to see for myself, I just went to walmart's app, compared the 2 bars, Hershey's creamy milk chocolate (45g) and Feastables milk chocolate bar (60g), I live in Canada so the serving size is 1 bar not 1/2 as shown by soggy. I compared hershey's at 45g with feastables at 45g/60g and this is how they differ:
Hershey creamy milk chocolate (45g)
Calories: 220
Fat: 13g
Saturated Fat: 8g
Carbs: 27g
Sugars: 26g
Feastables milk chocolate bar (at 45g/60g)
Calories: 240
Fat: 14.25g
Saturated Fat: 8.25g
Carbs: 26.25g
Sugars: 22.5g
The difference is absolutely insignificant, given how a feastables bar is bigger than hershey's, it makes it ultimately unhealthier. I really found it stupid how soggy compared 30g of feastables with 43g of hershey's, of course it's healthier when it's half the bar. The only macro that feastables is lower in is the sugar content (45g/60g), which is insignificant because people don't buy "healthier" alternatives to save themselves 1-5g. For it to be significantly healthier it should be at least half the sugar content. Overall they are both the same and feastables is just as unhealthy as hersheys at 45g, and more when comparing bar to bar.
6. CP allegations: Here is when I lost all respect and credibility for dogpack (besides him collabing with rosana pansino and even renting a whole theater to watch a 1 hour long MrBeast downfall documentary, yikes...) the claims were baseless, Rosana from day 1 has given 0 evidence for any of her claims, they are always screenshots or "I heard", they manipulated the group chat's content and fabricated a story of CP distribution. She started acting like a man child (or woman child), giving out childish responses when she was being called out on Dedrio's stream.
7. More collateral damage: 58 claimed at the end of the tiktok video that nothing was edited which is highly improbable given you HAVE to edit a gameshow AND video. Regardless, not a very important allegation as we can not make much of it. As for the 1 million dollar contestant it does seem like he claims he was compensated and is satisfied, so not much to add to that.
8. Mack: He's shown as a random contestant but is constantly seen in multiple videos and sometimes winning challenges. Given that someone allowed him to stay in the mansion implies he has connections, giving him some form of favoritism and advantage. In one of the games Mack won a car for being the first one to be disqualified, soggy seems to conveniently miss out on important context every single time.
9. For the iphone giveaway, regarding the pewdiepie clip, I think it was there to strengthen the point that giveaways are often deceitful and unethical. Giveaways can be easily faked, so the only way to disprove this is with tracking numbers and not more vague testimonial screenshots like soggy showed.
10. Locoya Hill: Given the lack of evidence and the removal of his video, it's hard to believe any of these claims are real, but it conflicts with the investigation letter uploaded by MrBeast on twitter. If Locoya and other HR are innocent, why were they removed? Replacing CEO's in companies is huge. So I see why people would still raise suspicion. I'm also unsure if revealing that recording of dogpack's termination is legal or if it's even real, but it does would explain why he's so salty and eager to take down MrBeast.
11. Moon scam: I don't really think the screenshot works in favor of Soggy, the screenshot shows an email to MrBeast team,, requesting a refund for that incident only to receive it 6 months later. So did they refund everyone at all?
12. Safety measurements: The boys vs girls game argument was about fairness. Yes, of course you should prevent the spreading of covid, but by inserting employees that potentially know how the game works, contestants are at huge disadvantage, which diminishes the credibility and fairness of the game. If they wanted it to be truly fair, shoot the video when the pandemic is over. As for the raft video, there are no clear shots of crew members spending the night on the raft, the video clip shown of them being on a boat doesn't show the main members and doesn't prove they that they went back on the raft to sleep. So there could be some potential dishonesty there.
13. The 3 stupidest arguments from soggy:
Illegal lottery #1: Probably the biggest allegation from dogpack with the most proof. He claims MrBeast made over a million dollars from that 1 stream. MrBeast and his crew promised to personally sign every single shirt. Unfortunately for him, since it was a livestream, one of his employees was caught falsifying Jimmy's signature and immediately looks around with a guilty face while covering his pen with his hand in attempts to hide it, the guy next to him lits up his eyes and gives a guilty "I think we got caught look" expression. It doesn't matter if Jimmy "consented" to letting someone else use his signature, he lied to everyone about personally signing them. I don't know why anyone would use that argument unless it was used as a loophole in court. No one on their right mind would think scamming kids with falsified signatures is legal nor ethical, soggy is delusional and while he called dogpack an idiot in this braindead argument, I believe he's a hundred times dumber.
Interview with contestant: He interviews a contestant for a video that was supposedly cancelled due to the pandemic. He claims nonchalantly that he received a split of the 1 million dollars that MrBeast "supposedly" split equally amongst the other 23 contestants. Like are you fucking serious? He then has the audacity to say "see?" as if he proved anything except for the fact that he's the dumbest person alive. Jimmy is going through allegations for crypto scams, not paying hospitals, and illegal lotteries and now he's a saint handing out tens of thousands of dollars for free. Great.
Investigation results: If you don't believe that soggy is a dishonest paid actor by now, he claims all of his arguments to align with the investigation led by a firm hired by Mrbeast himself, the letter is on twitter as of November 1st. The investigation lasted for months and resulted in 2 very short, vague pages. It states: "As you are well aware, the Company has grown exceedingly quickly from a Youtube start-up compromised of a group of talented young individuals to a much larger entity. It is not uncommon that policies and practices essential in a mature company would lag behind commercial success." What is not common is for a law firm to excuse a licensed company from not following the law. Any licensed company is liable for knowing what is legal or not, it's absolutely inexcusable. The letter downplays the severity of the issue despite the changes being: Hire New Chief Executive Officer, Chief People Officer, General Counsel, and Chief Financial Officer. This is a complete wiping of HR and raises more questions than it answers.
In the end people like soggy make these kinds of videos for the same reason as dogpack and any other youtuber, it brings them clout and money. It just happens that shitting on MrBeast is a bit saturated and there is undiscovered opportunity on defending him. Keep in mind this is the only video the official MrBeast channel has commented and pushed while continuing to refuse to address them publicly. It would be hard like really hard for me to believe soggy is not a paid individual given the most mind boggling bad arguments he comes up with and how mocking his tone is.
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@@OtakuHustle You sure spend so much time in the internet to write a whole ass essay while still being biased and got disproven
0 likesGet a life other than being a keyboard warrior
0 likes@@OtakuHustle Cool no one's reading it. I didn't get past "video is just plain deceptive..."
0 likesIt's really not. Keep coping.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl
3 likes1. I don't recall him being proven to be a sex offender, but you claiming he is makes soggy's point look bad. It gives MrBeast a bad rep for hiring a pedophile while his industry is cathered towards mostly children. Whether Jimmy knows or not, the damage is done.
2. If you watched the dogpack video, Weddle kept insisting he couldn't leave because of his financial situation, NDA's, and if what he says is true, it's not as easy to just leave because of nuanced reasons like mental health.
3. Promoting to kids while also not delivering the shirts, again like I said, this one is a bit tricky to prove unless MrBeast comes out with receipts and tracking numbers. Screenshots are not very reliable.
4. Never said the video is fake, I just mentioned how it would make sense for people to THINK it's CGI, since the content has been heavily edited.
5. No, the sizes are clearly not the same. Hershey's is 45g and Feastables is 60g. I compared them both at 45g because that's the fairest comparison. If you read what I wrote the nutritional value is about the same at 45g. But if we compare both bars, feastables is unhealthier, with higher calories, fats and sugar content. MrBeast promoted it as "healthy" to which it isn't. Soggy didn't prove anything, he compared 1/2 of a bar to a full bar.
7. Again, I didn't say that. That allegation doesn't lead to anywhere so I will stop there.
8. It's suspicious, what are the chances you popped out of nowhere and consistently win prizes, even when it's seemingly ridiculous, like winning a car for being the first out?
9. I don't really understand what you mean that they were fake. Again, it's hard to prove or disprove this. If MrBeast really want to clarify this allegation, he should show receipts and tracking numbers.
10. We don't know for certain if they are true or not, I simply pointed out there is room for suspicion and questions.
11. I don't understand how that is "the point", customers paid for it, they should be expected an immediate refund after the incident. The fact that they didn't is scummy. There is no point mentioning them re-attempting a refund.
12. Doesn't change the fact the game could potentially be rigged and unfair.
13. If you can't see what is wrong with falsifying signatures and scamming fans then I have nothing to say to you.
The guy made a ridiculously huge claim with no basis, why should I believe it? He should be the one showing me his bank deposit not me.
Because it clears nothing up and leaves us with more questions. Are we reading the same thing?
In conclusion, you are doing a lot of work to defend a guy that throughout the video has disproven none of the important allegations. Cheers.
1: It's already been proven he was a sex offender.
5 likes2: He was not being forced into anything he could have actually have left.
3: The actual complaint was over him doing it with kids, the guy clearly shows people did get what they were promised.
4: It doesn't, changing the color alone doesn't mean the vid is fake.
5: Now you just repeating an argument from the vid he compared the two which were around the same size ajd and concluded one was healthy than the other because it was as he shows.
6: Is something we both agree on so I'm going to be skipping that.
7: Do you actually think editing a vid alone makes it fake because if so you could make that argument for a lot of things, it doesn't make them true.
8: He's really not but this alone does not actually prove he has any actual ties to them outside of just the vids, if you paid attention you'd know he addresses that.
9: His point was that they were fake the vid shows people did get theirs so therefore it wasn't.
10: How does it? this doesn't change the things they were accused of being not true.
11: The point of the vid was that they did not try at all to refund people after it didn't work but they did and were going to try it again.
12: They already had everything done it would cost a lot of money to have to take it all down it's just easier to keep some who were fine and use others to take the place of people who were supposed to be there but didn't show up.
13: How are they? as the vid addresses there's nothing actually wrong with signing that as long as you have their consent and it wasn't a lie it was still people signing them using his own style of writing.
That's what the guy got paid for unless you got evidence his story isn't true just going based on feelings isn't enough.
What about their results? they aren't going to go into much detail if there's nothing else to talk about all they are saying is that they will try to improve how things are it doesn't need to say more.
In conclusion you are doing a lot of work to defend a guy who throughout the vid is proven to just be someone angry he got fired for being a weirdo.
Sound like a dog pack follower
3 likes@@alextubey4717 Too bad, already wrote it. 🤷♂
1 likeyap yap yap
4 likesdude... its really not that deep. Noones going to read all this
4 likesI would say it did devalue the shirt
2 likesJake Weddle was a trap.
1 likeMe if mr beast is a fraud:😐
1 likeMe if me beast isn’t a fraud: 😐
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@@lastbreath3266 What does this have to do with anything? Are you braindead?
0 likesYour Attention span is even worse than a goldfish 😒😒😒
0 likes1:03:43 "your made up language" damn the netherlands is catching strays 😭😭😭
1 likeI think it’s safe to say. Everybody is a piece of shit in this situation, except for the people that are actually trying to correct this shit the right way.
0 likesWho tf should I believe its hurting my brain do I believe dogpack I thought he made a valid argument or do I believe Jimmy I've never watched one of his videos but I here bad things or do I believe soggy this is utterly scrambling 😢
1 likeHonestly the thing that made me suspicious of Dogpack was when he went on Ludwig's stream and when Ludwig tried to ask him a question about a video Dogpack immediately called Ludwig a controlled operative.
5 likeswhen i first watch dogpack404, i was never really sold on his "proof", because, it's all circumstantial evidence at best, there is also a bit of inconsistency, but mostly, i ignore the video. when it explode, that's when i start to be interested in it, because, hey, a new drama just drop, so might as well follow where this is going. never did i realize, that it's going to be this bundle of a mess. mr beast are still shady to me, with the way he is marketing his product toward children and stuff.
0 likescorrection: the war crime joke. it's not actually joke. depraving POWs of basic human right, like solitary confinement without natural light, is actually a war crime. but, notice i mention POWs? yes, war crime only a war crime if it's done to a POWs or civilian in armed conflict (war), not civilian who is not involved in a war. it might be categorized as torture, and human right violation, but not a war crime. so it's technically not a joke, but it's still wrong to consider it a war crime, because no war are involved in the making of that video.
After reading some comments, I feel like you, Dogpack, and Mrbeast are all wrong at SOME extent. Someone can argue about your video, and the cycle will repeat. The truth is, the only thing fixing this is Mrbeast actually coming out. And then, it'll all be done.
0 likesthis man just casually drops the ultimate slop generation layer on this drama.
0 likes1:01:50 Yes. Yes, it is.
2 likesYezaker brought me here.
0 likesI was waiting for a counterargument for months
So how much did u get paid.......
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@@user-yj4se9ht5e I don't see how a Mr beast employee funding his tickets conveys that Mr beast paid him to make this video
0 likes@@SujitAdhikar-u1vhe says that but he also did not disclose in this video that his plane ticket was paid for by Dustin, a Mr Beast employee! He only admits this when asked the question during an interview! Even in his answer he drones on and on before reluctantly answering! If he wasn’t asked the question, he would never have disclosed that and that’s what makes me trust him less
1 like42:29 thank me later
1 likeRegarding the illegal lottery #1 - YES. It definitely can be a mistake. You yourself linked us to CaptainSparklez, who for all his time on the internet is a wholesome (albeit past his prime fame period) and trustworthy content creator. But I want to know what you think of Rosanna? I'd like to think that she's just been swept up by Dogpack, and that her claims are still as valid as every other victim. That she's not malicious (at least, not at first) and is now at best just hoping to see Jimmy taken down because he deserves it
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who CaptainSparklez?
0 likesPaid shill says what?
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@@erebusvonmori8050Name one.
0 likes@@erebusvonmori8050seems like u are taking about dogpack
0 likes@@Basedorthodoxchad Oh I can hear it just fine. I just find it concerning when a debunking video has multiple blatant lies in it.
1 likeLa la la I can’t hear you ah comment
1 likeCommentary channels are gonna become millionaires
0 likespretty good video but you can change the clock in the tower challenge and you didnt say that it would be impossible to change it in post you did make it sound like you cant. Also the MB signature is more valuable if mr. beast signs it personally. i dont even understand your reasoning? its like oh i got mark hamill's signature by marks friend..... but its mark hamills signature. good luck with that ebay listing.
1 likeHmm, MrBeast's comment is missing 🤔 I wonder what happened
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@@Keeb_the_mof mrbeast commented on this video then deleted it, ofc u dont know abt the comment cuz he DELETED it
0 likesWhat are you talking about💀
0 likesThis guy is helping mrbeast without looking like an idiot
0 likesHe was right on some things, that cannot be avoided
0 likesEvery single person involved in this at this point is coming across as disingenuous I don't trust any of you
0 likes1:01:50 bro forgot to thank Mr beast for sponsoring this video.
7 likesFor those unaware Soggy admited to have been paid by Mr beast loved how he claims to be neutral about the topic yet he accepted money from a Crypto scammer taken directly from Mr beast
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@@Ahmad-z3o3zAlso, I saw that Chud Logic segment in question. Soggy never says that he was paid by MRBEAST to MAKE THIS VIDEO. If you literally just listened, you would hear that he said that DUSTIN paid his PLANE TICKETS on a NON MrBeast card because the flights were too expensive for Soggy to afford. Stop taking that kind of info and trying to manipulate it, it's extremely disingenuous and you're pulling a DogPack.
0 likes@Ahmad-z3o3z About the Crypto scam, 1:24:43
0 likesWhen does he defend it?
Also, I find it ironic how when DogPack tries pressuring Soggy Cereal into making a video against MrBeast, nobody cares, but when Soggy finally makes his video against DogPack (not in defense of MrBeast), people start rasing pitchforks and theorizing that he was paid.
Send a link of this proof that he was paid and I may reconsider. But if not, keep coping.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl a producer with a salary of 50k paid for a +15k trip for his employer I mean sure let's ignore that this is litterly his job for a moment. Soggy accepted it without even knowing who paid for it!!!???
0 likes@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl🤣 just take the L maybe come up with a sold argument other than an employ who get's paid by mr beast would pay put of the goodness of his heart 20000$+ in order to make an interview about Mr beast out of his own pocket and jimmy had nothing to do with it he didn't approve the interview the great crypto scammer had nothing to do with this just one google search would show you that mr beast commented and deleted his comment thanking soggy and mr beast is contacting other content creators to review Soggy's video but who needs logic am I right
0 likes@Ahmad-z3o3z Clearly you do, he contacted people and one of the people who he contacted gave him money to come down to talk to more people.
0 likes@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl do you honstly think Mr beast book every flight/hotel himself for every contestant/colaborator lmao.
1 likeThe interviews and cost were all covered and approved by Mr beast
@Ahmad-z3o3z Except by your own source this isn't even close to what happened.
0 likes@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl here is a simple paragraph of the money transfer Mr beast money -> employ B who handled booking flight and hotel and everything else through his bank account -> Soggy was paid by Mr beast. Hopefully this clarifies you confusion
0 likes@@Ahmad-z3o3z How so? it was literally what he did he reached to someone and that person gave him the money to go the place.
1 likeThis alone doesn't prove he was paid off he's actually very critical of the guy but chooses to disprove the parts that aren't actually what happened.
@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl that statement is the most PR move I have ever seen so he was paid by an employ from Mr beast = paid by mr beast that isn't new that is just buisness 101
2 likes@@Ahmad-z3o3z I'm amazed that you choose tollie so blatantly, that guy didn't pay him to come it was one of the employees who used his own money for that.
2 likesAnd you would see in the same video that he is trying to defeand Mr beast Crypto scam🤣🤣🤣🤣 you can't make this thing up I swear. An hour and a half of nothing burger.
2 likes@DanielJacobs-rz1zl Chud logic 15:10
1 likeShow me on where he said that in the vid or anywhere.
3 likesSome politician about to pay doggpack a bag 😂
0 likesThis is the 2nd video ive watched after months regarding Mrbeast. I had watched dogpacks only video back then which were mostly manipulative allegations. Who cares if the car is CGI? or if the contests are real or not? People watch youtube as a source of entertainment. I've shrugged off the entire video as it didn't seem that serious and didn't bother catching up w the drama as its just a massive waste of time.
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@@Anomity99 In that case we should boycott reality TV shows as a whole.
0 likesI disagree. It was still faked and he lied to his audience.
0 likesstrawman
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Strawman by answering questions who were asked with relevant information and amswers?
2 likesStrawman my ass
4 likesCrazy how one man can ruin mr beast's reputation
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@@Axle_brug oh 😅
1 like@@SujitAdhikar-u1v woah thats alot of words, too bad I ain't reading em
1 likeIt shouldnt be, no one can do anything 100% ,absolute doesn't exist, in this case you can't please everyone ,there will always be a fraction of people against you no matter what you do ,good or bad. Since Mr beast is such a huge figure ,the fraction people who hated him is also big ,dogpack was just a person to bell the cat which gave this portion of people an opportunity to slander him openly ,dogpack was just the initiator. People were ready and waiting.
2 likesWe owe Ali Koca an apology
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no
1 likeNot him
2 likesNo we dont he threatend to sue q 16 year old girl for defending him. Hes not owed shit
4 likesGreat vid. Thanks for doing this.
1 likeAnd this video wont get even half as many views and as any ONE of dogpack's vids.
0 likesMost of the creators who coalbed with dogpack MAY NOT even address this vid (but i hope they do).
In the end the internet will move one like nothing happened... (but i hope something does happen)
This is real journalism. Good job Soggy!
0 likesWe should all report them for CP . They had access to those images
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@ exactly lol
0 likesMr Beast = Sentinel Prime
0 likesDogpack = D-16
Well unlike anyone taking side, I side with no one and take this information as a awareness for myself while sip a tea seeing these people taking side take the massive L ☕
1 likeI never trust Mr Beast especially the charity video, but Dogpack404 is very suspicious from the start due to his face apperance worsen by his behavior and the way he act that looked like idubbbz being the version 2.0
So yeah all I want is truth, and just truth, never praise both of these people infact only criticsm 😂
Bro the milkers are gonna burst money glitch 💀
This is HUGE for the unemployed
0 likesI love youtube that respects old youtube
0 likesSomebody tag Captain Disilusion to disprove the CGI parts
0 likesYo dude why did you delete the last video on slop content? i personally agreed with you and deleting makes it feel like you were pressurized to do so.
0 likesI think this was always very obviously that Dawson was an untrustworthy source. A disgruntled employee being the main person spearheading the attack against Mr. Beast's career was always going to end badly. He has said that he is not doing this for clout and yet he went on Rosanna's channel and joking about the wildly fucked up stuff that they found in a leaked group chat was for nothing but for clout.
0 likesHell yeah,i knew mrbeast was innocent
1 likeI'll be honest, i took everything Dogpack said with a BOULDER of salt, because something didn't feel right. Idk what, but something about him, his videos, and the allegations just felt off. I felt like I couldn't trust his claims, either because something felt off about the claims, or his personality and motivations. I'm pretty happy to see that my bull$#!+ detector is still working great, even several years after i stopped needing to use it daily for work 😂.
0 likesWhat have I learned over the past year about content creators?
0 likesEach one is unethical and is chasing the bag.
As someone who has no inkling or desire to make money, I can not say why someone would throw their morals away for attention and fame.
That intro takes me back
0 likesRIP idubbbz
Yo love it that a belgian makes a great video :)
0 likesI really think the content cop intro is great!
it's a real awesome video!
That's cool, I ain't watching all that
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@@redjack7296 fr lol
0 likesTiktok affects the brain 😂
6 likesGoede video
0 likes"Mister Biest" we raken nooit helemaal van accenten af huh? :')
This feels like the John Swan stuff all over again. Also, downloading and then reverse image searching said "thing" is beyond even LOLCow levels of stupidity.
0 likesImagine risking your life for a YouTube video
0 likes⬇️ If you were sent here by Dylan Zitkis
2 likesoh dear soggy, we didnt know if locoya is real but apparently you got his voice recording that he is the COO of mr beast. RIP to mr beast gang. good job soggy been soggy XD
0 likesSoggy Cereal and Dogpack404 collab when?
0 likesAmazing video I’m very glad that this has been uploaded this not only changed my opinion on this but I’m sure many others
0 likesAlso, DogPack has since deleted every MrBeast video he made except the first 2
0 likesOh no it’s not like I’ve been saying this since he made his video smear campaign
1 likeim glad soggy cereal gain more subs
0 likes"Now it's time to milk dogpack404"
0 likesFinally somebody exposed Dogpack. I knew he lied for profit since I checked some of his accusations but I didn't expect that almost everything he said was a fraud
0 likesI hope to see commentary youtbers talk about this, they are late already
1 likeDrew Gooden mention has entered the chat.
0 likesInteresting video. But I can't help but feel there is a strong bias towards Mr.Beast. I get that dogpack has an ulterior motive but hasn't this whole situation still exposed the Mr Beast brand as another blood sucking corporation? An image that Jimmy was clearly trying to stray away from. This video just seems like deflection and well construed damage control because I still feel like there are many unanswered questions surrounding the ethics and morality of the Mr Beast brand.
0 likesTo me, all of them are scumbags. The only motivating factor for Jimmy, Dogpack and Soggy is money. It's as simple as that.
Thank good many people questioning your video like they saying you are no diffirent than your enemy Dogpack maybe even more worse because pretty much you defending shady person.
5 likesthank you so much for make this vid. i watch anther much smaller person who is doing what you are doing exposing dogpack and the one girl for being a manipulative liar. is mr beast the best no but he no where near the person they are trying to paint him as
0 likesJe hebt helemaal gelijk ik vertrouwde dogpack niet van af het begin
0 likesi mostly agree but this video is lowk obnoxious 💀
1 likeAfter watching dogpack first video I could sense something was off with him.
0 likesWow jimmy really went on a shopping spree this time
0 likesThat's some huge plot twist
0 likesit's only been a few days and slop channels are already using this video
0 likesAnd this is the point it's all officially gotten to be to much to follow
1 likeStop the cringe
1 likeThis doesn't mean you can't criticize MrBeast
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Which he did.
0 likesYou’re literally getting over dramatic offer dog pack calling you over dramatic. It feels like the only reason you’re doing this is because he called you over dramatic and now you’re salty. You might have some credible claims, I wouldn’t know, you axed all your credibility by behaving exactly the way dogpack called you out for. If he hurt people, that sucks and he should apologize, but your claims of having “debunked” anything are pure slop.
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8 likesMmmyes you see he could've left anytime. Because the promise of needed money is totally not any sort of duress or whatever
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@@iatianegs no biggie! I don't really care about who dogpack is as a person tbf. It is how nobody cares about Edward Snowden. They drop their information and then they basically disappear.
0 likesYes, ofc there is a difference between US surveillance and the silly child gambling man, but still.
@@deandage2703 yes
0 likes@@deandage2703 oh mb i didnt know the context. i thought u were talking about both dogpack404 and mrbeast wanting money, which is why i mentioned dogpack was non profit
0 likes@@arkaem7549 you're true, one is fictional, one happened in real life. That makes the irl version less bad, right? :)
0 likes@@iatianegs I'm talking about the guy forced to be trapped in solitary confinement for literal weeks while his mental health declined rapidly, all for money that he was in need of
0 likes@@deandage2703 yeah but thats a tvshow, you can't compare the two. Foolish response
0 likes@@deandage2703 im confused what are you talking about? im talking about dogpack404s videos being non profit...
0 likes@arkaem7549 "nobody forced these people to participate in squid game" ahh response
1 like@@deandage2703 its fine because he can leave at anytime. It is not confinement if he can leave, if you can leave simply put you are not confined
0 likes@iatianegs okay and? Weddle was still put in solitary confinement for conent. Putting people into hunger games or squid game because they desperately need the money is cruelty, but solitary confinement is okay if it is done by mr beast?
1 likehis videos were non profit
0 likesThis whole Thing suddenly became very funny, good Job Content Cop 3
1 likethx for making this vid and educating people
0 likesCame from pyrolive
1 likeSoggy cereal vs dogpack404
0 likesWho would win???
maybe ali koca the eggman was right all along...
0 likessmall thing here if someone can answer, earlier in the video he mentions that having an nda ia a common excuse for making false claims, but in this video at 46:44 you can hear the hiring manager mention an nda. just something i saw, hopefully someone can answer
0 likesedit: later on he mentions in the video he broke the nda multiple times, so im going to assume here the idea behind his (soggy) claim was that he hids behind the nda when its convenient but breaks it any other time. guess the video answered my question lmao
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@@kssm yes i was asking why he said that having an nda was a common exuse (implying earlier on that he didnt have one) but as mentioned in the video the manager clearly said he has one, so it was a contradiction. then later in the video he was saying he was breaking the nda so it answered my question as i said in the edit
0 likesnda means "non disclosure agreement", basically you sign it before receiving confidential info, then leak if you that info, you are liable to be sued. alot of companies make employees sign these if they are given info they don't want to get out
0 likesWhat happened to YouTube I remember when I was a child it was a lot of let’s plays, after it was funny videos, after challenges videos and now today it’s just drama can we just return back to the good old time. Most content on YouTube now is just so depressing today
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this is because at the time the internet was not that big the population and the internet has grown I mean you can still find those videos you just have to look for them now
0 likesnothing will ever make me like Mr Beast and his disgusting "philanthropy"
0 likesSoggy just pwnd dogpack. that dude is a total fraud.
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@@shadowed69 maybe but look at all the stuff Dogpack lied about bro. thats defamation and slander. This dudes is a better journalist .
1 likeSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
1 likeI finally found that anime again... now i can rewatch it
0 likesI don't really know why people like autographs and autographed stuff, but I doubt it is because it is legally binding. So even if it legally might not count as fraud, it doesn't strike me as outstanding behavior imply the autograph on the merge is yours if it is not.
0 likesDude was grinding destroing a community
1 likesmall nitpick, not really relevant, but "5head" more often just means someone has a really big forehead. It could imply someone's big-brained, but also could just imply someone's ugly.
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@@lovelydumpling ahh ok, thanks for explaining
0 likes@@IbrahimAli-ix3rl it can, but doesn't necessarily. It's a pun on forehead (4head). So it generally means a big forehead. It was originally an insult in fact.
1 likei thought that 5head means like smart or smth
0 likesYour actions today are appreciated, and will not be forgotten. ❤
0 likesNow i can watch mrbeast
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@@Ruzu1_1 ???
0 likes@@sabukuna???
0 likes@thatgirlwearingglasses4133 yes he is. A cryptoscammer too. Look at lunchly, selling trash to kids for money. His whole personality is money.
3 likes@@sabukunano, he isn’t.
0 likesHes still a scumbag
4 likesdogpack claims that these videos have been removed. Are you able to cite your sources?
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@@halstephenson1 The vid is the source you should be watching.
0 likes@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl You seem up to date with it. Can you better guide me to a list of sources?
1 likeWatch his vid and find out.
3 likesPegasus is going to milk this like crazy with this one
0 likesoh boi, can't want for the video on what good things P.Diddy did and how bad his victims behaved in some situations, that surely will help fix this poor man's hurt reputation for no reason at all/s
0 likesNOPE. Just NOPE
1 likeWhen Emily said that I’m here with soggy it seemed like everyone was informed about this pro beast video was coming out
0 likesGood luck with that lawsuit I guess…
1 likeAh, crap. Clicked on this because of the content cop outfit, got sucked in. Guess I'm stuck hearing about this controversy I didn't care about for the next 87 minutes!
0 likesThe comment is deleted i guess (I cant find it) but MrBeast said "Finally someone not slandering me, lol"
0 likesI feel so nutrial about both sides now
0 likesI don't like mrbeast; I think he's pretentious, exploitative and annoying. Don't have any solid proof but at least my comment is more credible than dogpack's video.
0 likesPegasus fans gonna have a slop feast on this one
0 likesConclusion: you’re all in the wrong and being deceptive
0 likesThe meatriding is crazy
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Your the ultimate dogpack meatrider
1 likeDogpack is a worse person then mrbeast cry about it
He literally just disproved false evidence
1 likeYou're like 12 buddy
4 likesIts so crazy and fucked up how easily you can make people believe anything on the internet if you lie confusingly enough
0 likesBro’s downfall has begun.
0 likesLeech
5 likesThe content cop is amazing not wnough love twords it
1 likeIdk, I’m beginning to think neither Dawson nor Jimmy are good people here. Jimmy is still shady as shit (some things in this video didn’t substantially disprove Dogpack’s claims or misinterpreted things) and Dogpack now has some reasonable doubt cast over him (other things in this video DID disprove things and actually made me change my stance on the illegal lotteries, except for the claim that a fake signature doesn’t devalue an item, it absolutely does).
0 likesCoffeezilla needs to be taken into consideration as well, he uncovered that Mr Beast has a moderate likelihood of having committed insider trading and we already knew Mr Beast admitted to participating in a Ponzi scheme previously. So Jimmy could be only financially successful off of highly illegal gains. Jimmy also was 100% aware of Kris Tyson’s pedophilia, this video did not disprove that, so the fact Kris was allowed to continue working with the team is best case the “He’s my fucken friend” (actual quote from Beast) bias at work, and worst case malicious negligence and disregard for the weight of such a situation. Additionally, the lack of a public statement this entire time is probably one of the most damning pieces against Jimmy.
All that said, Dawson has now been caught repeatedly using manipulative editing to only show half the story, with other clips from the same videos or simple use of the Wayback machine showing he’s just flat out wrong on certain claims. And the CP thing, while it turned out not to be CP, it is still INCREDIBLY insane to distribute and flaunt what you believe to be CP before and audience, especially in a thumbnail.
I think at this point the charges that need to be levied are against Jimmy for his financial crimes and general negligence between people like Kris being allowed on staff and BeastGames’ poor operation, Dogpack on defamation and possession/distribution of what he believed to be CP (which should constitute the crime), and Kris for obviously being a fucking pedophile.
No way Ali Koca was right
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He wasnt
0 likesmrbeast drama getting wild
0 likesi dont wanna give you my fibers and nutrients :(
0 likesBanger video!
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@@shadowed69 if you watched the video, you'd see that Mr Beast didn't know this when he hired the guy. I agree that Mr Beast is problematic and I don't like him either, but this video shows that the Dogpack videos aren't (fully) correct
1 likeSoggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
0 likesNot to be a tinfoil hat Andy but .. How do we know Mr.Beast didn't pay people off to say these things?
0 likesLike, I do see that there are some huge holes in Dogpack's video that are pretty egregious. But, some of these interviews in Soggy's video .. idk man. Beast could pay off a lot of people to paint himself in a good light.
Great video regardless, Soggy! These issues needed to be brought up.
This is exactly the same as Dogpack 404's videos. Your evidence is no stronger than his. You're both clowns.
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Nah, you just cant accept reality that your favorite DogFraud is getting exposed
0 likeseh mr beast is annoying
1 likeScumpack404 disliked this video
6 likesdude this just reeks of damage control
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Its so funny seeing the mrbeast glazers thinking this video proves mrbeast is innocent even tho thats not even the point of the vid
0 likesIs he going to respond to the coffeezilla video as well?
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@@plum.world.entertainment He didn't say "nu uh" a single time. He provided solid evidence showing Dockpack's claims were false
0 likeshe will say "nuh uh" again
1 likethis is actually wild
0 likesFrom what it seems, based one everything I've seem, Jimmy's a guy who's not a business man trying to work as one
0 likesWho came from Dylan’s vid
1 likeOh how the tables have turned
0 likeshonestly thought dogpacks evidence was mostly crap from the beginning
3 likesYou cab tell by the title this is gonna be good
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you realise that he changed it right? Its because it was obvious that soggy was paid by beast to make this video
0 likesI dont think any of them are good
1 likeObvious paid Mr Beast plant.
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Dogpack meatrider
0 likes42:31 Actually watch the video before you comment
0 likesI wanna see someone expose him now.
0 likesyou went to north carolina 😭
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@@esme_melody so what do you mean by "you went to North Carolina"
0 likesgirl what read my comment before u comment what r u talking abt
0 likes42:31 Actually watch the video before you comment
0 likesOnly thing i got from this video is that Dustin Is a really nice guy
0 likesIt literally does devalue "MrBeast" signature, if it is not from him tho...
0 likes5Head doesnt maen he is calling himself smart, it can mean, and usually does, that he is just pretending to be smart, it literally is highlighted on screen of the definition you showed xD
What about the claims of cgi on the philanthropy channel like extra or worse looking buildings?
0 likesI guess you can say Dogpack learned from the best
0 likesI knew Adam Lanza wasn't really dead.
0 likesslightly off topic from the main point (but everything that can be said about that has probably been said already) but i've been annoyed by dogpack's frequent usage of ai generated images since his first video, so i guess it's no surprise to see him constantly using it not just for his fan ideas but also presumably for actual work pitches in here? but i paused on a reddit comment where he seems to be somewhat against ai being used for that purpose 💀 the hypocrisy never ends
0 likesalso rubs me the wrong way when he said "i'm too lazy to translate your made up language" even though i know it's kind of a meme to call some languages that.. in that specific context it felt so dismissive and rude lol the guy really seems like an asshole
How much did Mr Beast pay you
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Ask me how I know you didn't watch the video...
0 likesvery interesting point but i wait for doggy counter attack on soggy for misleading and lied XD
1 likei was actually thinking dogpack404 and soggycereal would be a great duo
0 likescuz yk
exposer of the most popular youtuber and exposer of the kind of 2nd most popular youtuber
Here's why the soggy cereal video is bad:
3 likes(0:37) “Philanthropy that's helping thousands and millions of people”
Do you mean to say philanthropy that helps shield Mr. Beast from criticism?
(5:36) Dogpack never said that Mrbeast definitely knew as shown at (48:40) in the “I worked for Mrbeast he's a sociopath” video.
(6:24) He did wear a mask without removing it in the “I Spent 24 Hours Straight In Insane Asylum” video
(6:47) Sorry, bro, but witness testimony isn't good enough evidence against Dog Pack especially of a Mrbeast employee
(10:25) You saying that Jake the Viking is an untrustworthy person doesn't make him untrustworthy. In the same way, Garrett shouldn't be seen as trustworthy.
(10:36) Again, watch (48:40) in the “I worked for Mrbeast he's a sociopath” video.
(17:00) First things first, he was referring to the “no purchase necessary” text you idiot.
The second thing is that it would still be considered a lottery even if they have a free option
The third thing is that he didn't say that this was an ‘illegal’ lottery since he already said “The website did have a "no purchase necessary" link hidden at the bottom of the page.”
Also, the “Buy This Shirt To Be In A Video” video was still a lottery, even if he had a free way to enter, as it still ticks the consideration box for those who bought the shirt.
(20:52) “Not true” You know Dogpack was very careful with his words as he said “ I don't know if it got resolved” instead of saying somewhere along the lines of “The issue didn't get resolved”
(21:15) Again Dogpack said “per bar” instead of saying “per gram”.
And to add pain to the misery it's still unhealthier than the previous formula.
(22:02) Why does the “Controlled opposition” admit to using CGI in the hole at (1:10:58)?
(22:13) They did use CGI for the shredder at one point though.
(22:26) Dogpack again isn't wrong as the colour of the car did get digitally lifted and Mrbeast still used CGI to use a false colour on the car.
(24:03)“The CP was PROBABLY more disgusting”. There you go he didn't confirm it was CP
It's like saying that a police officer who caught a criminal having CP and then tried to reverse an image search to find the creator of the CP is a criminal because he held CP in the end. Bro this is why context is important.
(33:50) Yes, Dogpack should be confronted for pushing thirst traps on Mrbeast's channel, and it would not be ok for Mrbeast to try drugs on YouTube. Now I understand why Dogpack got fired. I think we can all agree that any form of sexual thumbnails should be banned on YouTube.
(35:40) Again, witness testimony isn't good enough evidence against Dog Pack, especially of a Mrbeast contestant who won a lot of money in the end by Mrbeast.
(36:52) Do you mean to say “I did rather believe a person who defends Mrbeast and is also a Mrbeast contestant who won a lot of money in the end by Mrbeast than The guy who exposed Mrbeast”
(37:04) Again, witness testimony, especially of a Mrbeast contestant who won a lot of money at the end by Mrbeast doesn't help prove to people that he is a random subscriber.
(44:57) Read my Reddit post in response to the Stucky video:
https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/s/fTc9vpfq90
(47:29) “Him saying he's not getting anything out of these videos” he didn't say he's not getting anything out of these videos as he's still getting fame but he said that the video is not monetised.
(47:59) This point was already covered by Stucky and I have already responded to that in my Reddit post.
(51:39) Why didn't Mrbeast mention that in his video?
(53:11) You can see that the colour of the timer in (52:56) is a little bit different than the colour in (52:59)
(53:30) I allegedly think that most of the people already knew that he was breaking his NDA
(53:59) Why didn't they mention this in something like a Behind-the-scenes video? I do appreciate you bringing this information on YouTube, but I do think that Mrbeast should be the one to bring this information on YouTube, and he should have brought this before Dogpack started to confront Mrbeast on 24th July 2024.
(54:36) He didn't say “Luxurious production yacht”. Instead, he said, “Production yacht”. He may be trying to imply that it was luxurious as we see the photo of a golden ship but there still isn't any solid evidence for this claim. Again I do appreciate you bringing this information on YouTube, but I do think that Mrbeast should be the one to bring this information on YouTube, and he should have brought this before Dogpack started to confront Mrbeast on 24th July 2024.
(56:28) Again I do appreciate you bringing this information on YouTube, but I do think that Mrbeast should be the one to bring this information on YouTube, and he should have brought this before Dogpack started to confront Mrbeast on 24th July 2024.
(56:39) Again witness testimony isn't good enough evidence against Dog Pack.
(55:57) I want them to be transparent about the entire Mrbeast company and it shouldn't have taken Dogpack confronting Mrbeast on 24th July 2024 to get them to tell you everything.
(59:26) “We investigated ourselves and found ourselves innocent”
(1:00:29) It's not about whether it's legal or not but about him being lazy and not signing all his signatures himself.
(1:01:00) Bro watch the (21:20)–(21:59) of the “I Worked For MrBeast, He's A Fraud” video again as he debunks the free sign-up argument and PURCHASE IS NECESSARY for you to win extra rewards, which are lotteries in and of itself.
(1:04:55) Again “lies and misinformation” coming from witness testimony isn't good enough evidence against Dog Pack especially from a Mrbeast employee
(1:08:48) The argument was allegedly trying to associate no does not mean no with never giving up but it's allegedly meant to try to bully people who reject or disapprove a demand of the Mrbeast company accept or approve the demand of the Mrbeast company.
(1:10:23) Again I do appreciate you bringing this information on YouTube, but I do think that Mrbeast should be the one to bring this information on YouTube, and he should have brought this before Dogpack started to confront Mrbeast on 24th July 2024.
(1:11:19)–(1:20:19) Again, witness testimony isn't good enough evidence against Dog Pack, especially of Mrbeast employees.
(1:20:20) Do you mean to say that there will not be people who will be recorded being helped by Mrbeast so that Mrbeast can make himself look good?
(1:22:16) Bro watch the (2:35) of the “I Worked For MrBeast, He's A Fraud” video
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@@TheMangaWasBetter77786 “No, you don’t. So just shut up” what are you? 12? Please admit you glaze Dogpack. Actually go outside than be a keyboard warrior
0 likesGod damn spit your shit homie 🗣️🗣️
0 likesAint reading allat
0 likes@RichardGAG Do you have proof that I am Dogpack? No, you don't. So just shut up.
0 likesOkey dogpack alt.
0 likescommenting for referencment bcs its a good video
1 likeand the exposer exposed situation is really funny
Regardless of what disgusting stuff dogpack does, you honestly, pretty entertaining yourself. Thank you for bringing back content cop, and please continue doing that. :)
0 likesWhatever happened to "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"
0 likeswe got ww3 on youtube before gta6
0 likesThumbnail resemble gaddafi
1 likeits interesting for you to mention integrity, since pegasus has helped you to rise up a lot and you acted to him like you were great friends
0 likesi agree that dawson may not be the BEST person but you of all people certainly have to mention manipulation in the very beginning of your video
also you shouldve not mentioned all of dawsons sources, because many of them still have a JOB, they were simply trying to help what they believed was right and now this will impact them financially
Conclusion is both are bad
1 likeÐogpack 404 situation is crazy
0 likesthe truth about dogpack404 and soggy cereal
0 likes47:53 turned off adblock and restarted the video. I've said even if all the allegations are true (obviously not to anyone capable of crtitical thinking) that MrBeast's cntribution to humanity is always going to be a net positive.
0 likesGood fucking video, came from nick deorio 👏
0 likesoh i dont care about this. i dont even know these people
0 likes0:54 it’s 2016 again
1 likeWhy did you change the title?
0 likeswe got mr beast saved before GTA 6
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@@c4chottu10 but pedo allegations, faking video allegations , are huge so yu saying that is right 😳😳😳
1 likeproving dogpack wrong doesn't make mr beast right it just shows how dogpack used the limelight of hate that was surrounding mr beast and manipulated it for his gain.
4 likesSo basically,,, everyone in this drama is a diferent flavour of bad person?
0 likesHonestly? Should have expected it. Thats one me guys lol
my my my how youtube drama has fallen
0 likes"dogpack404 is so over"
0 likesThings I trust, stuff like the proven doctored description of the 3rd supposed illegal lottery, stuff I'm skeptical of statements made by people after DogPacks videos as those people could have easily been paid off by Beasts company, things I don't trust anything said by the employees.
0 likesThis is such a good video. Thanks for all the work and rigor you put into this. F DP.
0 likesThanks i always knew something wasnt right
0 likesHonestly, not sure who to trust anymore at this point lol
0 likesCame here from Phil Defranco show.
0 likesI don't care about the means, someone trying to take down a guy I don't like that has this aura of bUT hE dID a gOoD THiNG is doing the right thing. I don't eat crayons, but I also don't care about the facts if they fit an agenda that I have.
0 likesNah, aint no way they still try to hide begind their fraudulent charity lol
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@@basimcool9278I’m pretty sure soggy cereal didn’t talk about Dawson’s claims of faking charity to much
1 likeDid you watch the video?
1 likeNew content cop dropped
0 likes1:26:40
0 likesThat could be true, but if it wasn’t for dogpack, would these other creators be making videos about MrBeast? I don’t know, maybe, but it would have taken a lot longer.
I have 2 things to say. Unpopular opinion the YouTube slop video was fire. I think the points made were harsh but on point for the most part. 2nd with the anime thing. I'm pretty sure ethe age of consent in Japan is sixteen so even if it was about that kind of relationship it may be socially acceptable in Japan. Obviously I don't fully know but the fact that people say this and others believe is pretty bad we need to more research before making opinions.
0 likesSo the twist is that there is no twist?
0 likesI don't know who to believe
1 likea/b testing what you think is cp is insane
0 likesI’m here because of dylan zitkus
0 likesFrench accent detected. Opinion discarded.
0 likes10:54 yaahhooo 😂
1 likerosanna has been crying like a baby since she lost that hide and seek video lol
0 likesSo clearly whoever has more money can win at last so no matter how that’s bullshit.
0 likesAre these interviews filmed at mr beast company? 😅
1 likei swear dogpack will rebunk it and then get debunked again and then get rebunked, ts is so confusing
0 likesI know what you are Soggy.
0 likesWhy are you making fun of Dog Pack asking to keep his job? What is so bad about that? Be the better person.
3 likesDog Pack suggesting Mr. Beast take all the drugs seems like a normal thing Mr. Beast would do. Have you seen his early videos?
They literally admitted to advertising their channel to kids. They know mostly kids watch their stuff.
No questions at all about his link to Shadman? Seems weird.
We all know Feastables suck as much as Lunchables. How people say Hershey's is any better is comical. It's better than not eating though.
He talked about all his money, but still asks his child fans to fix his Feastable displays in stores.
We already know about the 7 days at sea stuff. So why didn't they stop Weddle from the continued confinement? If they cared that much about safety?
Just because they hire a third party, doesn't mean that third party received all the evidence. It just keeps from showing bias.
You didn't even ask about the whole Amazon show stuff? Didn't ask about Team Seas or Team Trees? I know the show lawsuit is still going on, but still.
His channel still profits from underprivileged people. I think most people would agree that philanthropy shouldn't be about antics and charades.
I know you brought up Logan Paul and KSI, but this team up really shows up as a red flag.
Mr. Beast misled his fans with giveaways and crypto. It's a minor issue at this point, but there is proven video evidence.
It's a nice thing Jimmy is trying to do for society, but the way he has always done it is weird. There are worse people in the world I guess. His is driven by money and money alone. He doesn't care about much.
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is this the adults in our country? ngl y'all should not vote
0 likes@@NexusNex01 They literally show nothing as proof of sexual harassment. All Soggy has is a recording of his HR firing meeting. That is it. Nothing else.
2 likes@poopypants9983 watch the video
1 like@@NexusNex01 It's literally hearsay. They could, you know, show us all the HR complaints they have on him?
2 likesHe begged for his job to harass more woman, the reason he was fired was because of sexual harassment
4 likesThanks for having balls and using your platform to dethrone liars. All this bs is just a cash grab. I never trusted dogpack from the start. Mr beast is very overworked and young. Hes bound to make a mistake. Try being the biggest youtuber in the world with 2 food companies and having to run all of them. You wont be perfect.
0 likesDid this thing get 200k more views in 2 hours?
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People reviewing it on stream
0 likesI came here from dylanzikus💀
0 likesI can’t wait for asmongold to watch this
0 likesClose enough
0 likesWelcome back iDubbbz
And that’s when it was the time when the official civil war of YouTube started
1 likeWith mrbeast soggy cereal Logan Paul KSI and others went to war with dog pack 404 Rosana morePegasus and and other commentary YouTube channels and ludwig AND twitter of course
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nobody cares about commentary channels and ludwig😂😂✌✌😭😭
0 likesNah man. Commentary channels are vultures in the ecosystem. Don’t expect any loyalty in them.
1 likeI WANT MORE CONTENT COP RIP-OFFS!
1 likeMake a video about Rossana or whatever her name is. She was always making cooking or baking videos now she is trying her best to expose Mr.beast
0 likesIn summarion this is really stupid video that seeks to dismiss claims based on technicallities and, perhaps deliberately, misses the point completely.
10 likes0:37 «The philanthropy that benefiting millions of people» this is absolute horseshit
4:18 The allegation is that they were joking that he couldn’t go back to Delaware, not that it was the actual origin of the nickname, and certainly not that he was banished by law.
5:57 Even if he didn’t hire him knowing, he sure KEPT HIM AROUND while knowing. That’s the meat of the accusations, your brushing it of.
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0:37 Why is it horseshit do you think he does no philantrophy?
0 likes4:18 The allegation is that they were joking??? How is that an allegation?
5:57 This still shows dogpack didn't do proper research, besides how do you know whether they kept him around or not?
@@ArbitraryUsername12 the rest of the video gets worse and worse
1 likeyou didn't watch the video, you watched the first 5 minutes
0 likes1:01:47 in offended
1 likedogpack has definetly done worse shit than jimmy, but don't idolize either.
0 likesA brief comment about "no doesn't always mean no." Don't forget -- women can be creepy too. Even though a female employee thinks it's funny and appropriate, it's definitely not. I also think it's also a red flag of the culture at the company.
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lol, my thoughts exactly. I've been selling credit cards and crap my whole life and never heard anyone mention the "no doesn't always mean no" tactic. If I told this tactic to my boss, she would look at me differently.
0 likesDogpack audio recordings are AI-generated, you can TELL if you worked with AI generated audio before
3 likesWhen did he delete one of his 3 videos
0 likesThis is getting almost too sloggy for me
0 likesThis feels like damage control
5 likessoggy get a new webcam dude those video calls were horrendous
0 likesLeaving a comment on this epic video for algorithm BOOM
0 likesSo did mr beast pay you well 2000 air fares what else did you get from mr beast
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@@MrFather4000if he isn’t being biased then why not disclose that the ticket was paid for until someone asked? Even then he reluctantly answered! If he had disclosed this from the start I’d be more likely to believe this to be an unbiased video but he hid it and his reluctance to answer is sly
1 like@@MrFather4000 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hLHZ6yLg3tU&t=23161s&pp=2AH5tAGQAgE%3D
0 likes@@SujitAdhikar-u1vbroo...lets goo
0 likes42:29 thank me later
2 likesCrazy video and dedication
0 likes54:19 all you need to see is the misuse of the comma instead of a period. I declare this man and all of his past or current coworkers guilty.
0 likesThis was a great video, I really enjoyed how thorough it was. Super scummy stuff all around.
0 likesOne thing that I thought was a little bit funny in an otherwise serious video was at 1:22:00 he speaks about Mr. Beast team actively aging up their content. I am pretty sure Mr. Beast content has not been aged up.
even if mr beast is innocent in theses stuff he still sucks for other things like Lunchly for starters
0 likesand no i haven't watch the video yet, but i will eventually for now tho i got my own stuff toy do
Seems as both of them suck
1 likenice try mr beast
0 likesUpdate: Soggy condemned Mr. Beast's scummy practice of sharing the former's vid to other creators.
1 likeHow was its taste?
0 likesGods I miss content cop
0 likesI don't trust Rosanna Pansino as far as I can throw her simply because she seems to have this Mr beast hate boner and she will echo any accusation about that man regardless of whether they are true or false. She could hear a false fake rumor that Mr beast was sleeping with a 13-year-old child and she would echo it as if it was true!
The 5$ detective i guess :P
1 likeyooo you look just like friendlyjordies
0 likesThis person is going to single-handedly save MrBeast reputation
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Nah, his reputation is still fucked.
0 likesFalse he is not defending mr beast either have you watched the full video
0 likesok now wheres the video showing the shit ro has been gagling about mr beast and logan for the past few months for views
0 likes53:30 is the absolute dumbest argument ever. Of course there would be producers or technicians who trigger it remotely.
0 likesEven on real game shows this is the case because it's easier to rig up, wont sustain any damage, such as rust that makes it impossible to turn, or god forbid an emergency happens, you can't expect the dude drowning to release himself.
Even before this video i thought it was a stupid claim to make. Also NDA lol
I don't like either of them good work
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Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
0 likesHow much of this all of a sudden glazing of beast belongs to the company?
0 likesTL;DW - They both suck as everyone already knew but one sucks on a small scale and the other sucks on a large scale.
0 likesI quit
0 likesI remember watching the old Mr beast videos and remember garrett I was wondering what happened to him
0 likesI can't trust no one no more
0 likesOk so how would people not know what a best buy is
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@@HalfAnimation Ahh, makes sense.
0 likessoggy is from europe, i dont think they have best buy there
0 likesIdk who to trust know
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True lmao
0 likes23:27 IIRC that car with a jet on it has a video on youtube showing the build process
0 likes38:30 To be fair, he probably only took home $750k.
0 likesAnyone could blow that in a weekend. 😎
The fungus is among us
0 likesI'm always said at start of his "expose" video come out that all of his accusation didn't had any solid proof
0 likesbut people won't care because Mr.Beast is big and he is evil now so everyone don't even care to look this up even a lot of Youtuber make video about Mr.Beast gonna end his career.
I saw more than bunch of "Content Creator" try to accuse Mr.Beast for making money but they farming from Mr.Beast for money too , ironically enough LMAO
Content Constable over here
0 likesSome people are really blinded by their loyalty. Can't believe how many people in the comments still defend dogsack.
2 likesMr beast saw the vid
0 likesGreat video. Great way to spend my evening watching this.
0 likesWtf is going on anymore with this situation
0 likesHE DOES IT FOR FREE
0 likesGee who would of thought scripted videos would be safe 🤦🏼
0 likesthanks for doing this
0 likes23:52 more Pegasus jumpscare
0 likesWelcome back idubbz
0 likesThis stuff is getting old now
0 likesNice try Jimmy.
3 likes8:20 not convinced on the fence with this guy...
0 likesSoggy Cereal can't be talking, he literally steals other people's thumbnails. Regarding Feastables and Hershey's, you pointed out that Feastables is still healthier than Hershey’s. However, my argument was that it was advertised as healthy, and the downgrade in healthiness wasn’t acknowledged.
4 likesSoggy Cereal is twisting my words in order to make himself look correct. I will be making a full debunk soon.
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wtf 😭
0 likes“I Found you Faker”-Sonic 2001
0 likesDogpack meat rider
1 likeThis ain’t the real dog pack 😭
6 likesWHAT ABOUT THE RATCOON
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Who cares about the racoon? 😭
0 likesBesides, that point barely went anywhere, DogPack was literally just speculating
But was the raccoon a paid actor?
0 likesAnother on the beasts jock
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Soggy isn’t working with MrBeast, allegedly.
0 likeswhats up with the friendly fire lol isnt this suppose to be everyone against the trio
0 likesoh look a fake none fact checked video about another video with checked facts great work ... said no one ever
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@@charade3331 probably a child or a man child
0 likesU okay?
5 likesOh my god the slop is slopping yummmm
0 likesSomeone has to work on the damn content force.
0 likesAli koca was onto something
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No he wasn't. He was right, but for the completely wrong reason.
0 likesdog pack was always a liar
0 likesPhilly D sent me here!
0 likes6:09 Alright so if Delaware isn’t his real name then where did Delaware get his nickname from? Also I don’t remember Delaware being printed on that shirt and bro why did you forget the part where the intro is sped up when when you tried to debunk the 10 minute real time vid? Clearly the timer WAS EDITED in post and the guy touched the laser dogpack404 made those claims and you skipped them (I bet this guy got paid by Mrbeast)
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@@AmazingMarioPlushFilmsat 53:06 soggy nosed the worst attempt at debunking dogpack’s claim the timer is obviously edited in post
0 likesThe DogPack glazing is insane 😭
0 likes3:49 Literally, Jake says that Delaware got his nickname from the fact that his crimes were committed in Delaware. Jake Weddle, the guy on DogPack's side.
6:08 Dawg, can you not read?
Also, why would Soggy admit that Jimmy committed an illegal lottery if he was paid to make the video? You're just pushing the false narrative that Soggy made this video to defend MrBeast instead of exposing DogPack.
time to dive in
0 likesdogpack is syndrome and Mr beast is Mr incredible if he was a crypto scammer lmao
0 likesWhy doesn’t this one have 15 million views?
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@@manachromeYT I guess exposing famous people is more trendy than defending them.
2 likesthe truth is the algorithm
1 likebecause it sucks, allegedly.
1 likebecause it sucks
2 likesbecause it has literally nothing of substance in it whatsoever and a good 2/3 of the video is stupidity
3 likesI respect you but as all things are always the answer lies somewhere in the middle.
0 likesWhat an interesting twist 😅😅😅
0 likesWho cares
0 likes1:13:03
1 likeNor soggy, dogpack404 or mrbeast are telling the truth
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@@FinalWarsGoji What are you trying to say? The way soggy talks gives me a feeling in my gut that makes me feel like he is spreading misinformation aswell
0 likes@@zeenxdownz"giving you a feeling" yea sure dude
2 likes@dihydrogenmonoxideistasty340 No but its clear that dogpack and Mr beast are lying and soggy is using words in a way that defends Mr beast (saying confirmed for dogpack but allegedly for Mr beast) and that gives me a feeling soggy is also lying
2 likesyou know the truth >?
3 likesCrazy dogpack doesn’t even try and respond😭😭😭
3 likesI had doubt back when the original video by dogpack was posted in july.
2 likesHere is my comment from his video:
"The fact that y'all are taking this at face value from a guy who couldn't even manage to stay in the job for 2 months is so hilarious.
99% of this dudes accusations have literally ZERO proof. Its just accusations from some random loser.
Hell, there's a bunch of claims in it that have been outright proven wrong in videos, streams and podcasts that came out long before this video."
yo wtf did't notice you were dutch untill the screenshots at 1:03:42
0 likesis it sad that I actually fell for this crap.....like Dogpack was giving jelly...
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@@DogPark404 you lied about a heart warming anime, about CP, and about scamming children boy bye, Jimmy might be shady but he ant CRIMALLNALY shady at least like that....
0 likes@@DogPark404
1 likeSoggy cereal doesn't steal thumbnails you are just making things up to protect you online reputation
@@DogPark404 you're a nobody
0 likesYou believe Soggy Cereal? He steals other thumbnails and doesn't give credit. I am going to be debunking this soon.
0 likesholy fuck this is a mess
0 likesHoly friggin crap
1 likethis is absolute fire!
0 likesbro getting paid by Mr Beast and interviewing loyal dogs of Mr. Beast
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@@SpearSilver you assumed otherwise ,your problem
0 likes@@hydro1389 The rest of the video proves otherwise.
0 likes42:31 Actually watch the video before you comment
0 likesThe real idubzz
0 likesI feel like you thanos snapped to 250k subs last time I checked you had like 20k lol congrats
2 likeswhy is everybody now a content cop?
0 likesAs a person who believed this man’s lies and made me think Mr Beast was a bad man after this video I have realized that he is a manipulative, spiteful man who tricks his audience and boasts himself when he is right and cry’s when he is crying like a child. I was subscribed after this video I unsubscribed from Dogpack404. I agree with Soggy Cearel and I am glad he changed my brain from Dawson and agree either every word Soggy Cereal says thank you man.
1 likedogpack404 likes to perfectly cut stuff and take EVERYTHING OUT OF CONTEXT.
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To be honest
0 likesThis drama was a waste of time
0 likes@@starwinter6845 as someone who litterally watched the whole entire video, i can litterally confirm that he did not take anything out of context and you are a person who does not think of any sort of common sense once so ever. more at the end of the video, he INTERVIEWED employees that are to this day still working at the company, and they told there storys about dogpack404 being an absolute asshole, like trying to get an apple vision pro out of the company, and calling the food that the people working there trash without having any sort of interaction, and in a rude manner all on purpous.
1 likei think you should watch the video actually before assuming he is lieing. This is probably the longest video on the situation that fully explains almost everything.
No, that's what THIS DUDE did lmao
3 likes3:12 Becuse of ksi & logan all mrbeast did is feastebals
0 likes7:13 yep 😀👍
1 likeCall out Pegasus next
0 likesCant wait for pegasus to make bangers like 🔥
0 likesIts over
Dogpack exposed
The end
Its finally over
It got worse
Ah i already see the dogpack riders in here trying to debunk
3 likes45:15 bookmark
0 likes0:42 "active philantropy that helps millions"
2 likes<.< yet Mr beast still hasnt paid the doctors for the eye surgeries he said he paid for.
honestly. all i see in this video is people saying things about dogpack and weddle, without evidence.
least Dogpack provided the receipts.
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you havent watched the full video have you, you literally watched 42 seconds and left this comment. he literally coveres the eye doctors later in the video
2 likesWym? This dude provided more receipts than Dogpack.
1 likeBut he did provide receipts, thats this video, MrBeast is not a good guy, everyone agrees with that, its just that DogPack404 is not a reliable source or really a good guy at all.
1 likeYou sound extremely Dutch.
0 likesyo where is the TL;DR
0 likesWell done man
0 likesIf Mrbeast stop collabing with Logan Paul i will support him again🙄
1 likeDog pack is over party
4 likesCarl 23:44
0 likesPrison video
0 likes18:20
0 likesliterary watching this with sharp edges on chrome, windows 10 you dummy
Same time next week?
0 likesDramaception wtf
0 likes1:02:15 girl freinds
0 likesYea sure whatever
0 likeslol what a sell out
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@@leegoldr dogpack glazer spotted
0 likes@@Walrus101 lol simp
0 likesTo who? Proof? What are you suggesting, Beast paid him off or something?
3 likesIt's been obvious from the start that Dogpack has been lying and manipulating, regardless of if his overall message about Beast is true or not. It is not at all shocking that someone is finally bringing to light what people didn't want to see.
Thinking for yourself is apparently being a sellout..;
He's not
3 likesDad and prison
0 likesBro you're a beast.
0 likesFrench iDubbbz???
0 likes14:15 it's not because it's a joke that it's not true
0 likesThe War crime comment is tongue in cheek. It's clearly demonstrating that these challenges are excessively harsh. This is exactly what has been evidenced in the New York Times' reports on Mrbeast's new show
0 likesMade up language.. 😢
0 likesI mean, did anyone think the war crime thing was serious? Obviously, the Geneva Conventions don't apply. Jake wasn't a convict, and there is no war. I don't understand how anyone could perceive this as hyperbole. This felt like nit picking. Jake Weddle was financially coerced into submitting to harassment and mental distress. You can't arrest a person or company for committing war crimes, but this conduct is pursuable in a civil case.
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@ Legally, definitely not coercion. But arguably it is hard to say no because of the financial incentives that were offered. I personally believe that there is a strong ethical transgression in using incentives like this. Maybe I was overzealous in the implication that this exact conduct is legally perusable. It largely depends on what sort of liability was signed ect. I doubt that this will be taken to court. But I think the legal issue is there, and certainly the ethical one, likewise.
0 likes"Financially coerced" Nice anti-concept. In the reality we live in, no one is free from necessity. Trade is not coercion.
0 likesTL.DR?
0 likes42:54 doobus goobus didn’t ride dog packs meat?
0 likesSo is Dogpack full of it?
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Yes
0 likes7:00 Leading. Nice.
0 likesMr Beast approves this message and will send cash immediately
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"Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol" -mrbeast's deleted comment on this video
2 likesMr whoose the boss
0 likesyou kinda sound like dani ngl
0 likesIdk 8 min also sound like the guy is trying pull back his statements
0 likesTake it to trial
0 likeswonder what now the other suckers of content such as MorePegasus gonna said now 🤣
0 likesMorality question I have to ask as a philosophy major is do you feel good about making someone who was shown as an evil person (MrBeast) now seem less evil because you exposed dogpack? You could’ve kept hidden this information you had and kept MrBeast as a super evil person.
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What a dumb question, should all people who were falsely imprisoned for crime , not have people still try to prove their innocence because the public believes they are evil? That’s how dumb you sound
0 likesAs a philosophy major you sound DUMB
1 likeCompanies suck
0 likesYall weird
0 likes47:19 OK yeah that alone is a huge red flag.
0 likesVid of he year~
0 likes1:14:26 that’s not Jakes friend. That’s a leech.
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@ looks like a leech to me.
0 likesNo that's jake friend bub
0 likesSloppy cereal
0 likes"expose the truth on woke media" lol
0 likeshmmm you remind me of dani for sum reason
0 likesI mean ye obiviously its not war crime.. Tho its torture.. Voluntary torture but then again offering money to torture someone on camera is morally wrong.
1 like42:46 bro I don't wanna assume but I think the bottom comment is by a bot
0 likesGod damn
1 likeCarl
0 likesRizz mr besst rizz
0 likesIf all of this is true then why couldn’t Mr beasts lawyer use the stuff you’re saying to refute it when the drama first started. I’m not saying you’re wrong or anything but that is a little suspicious on your part
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cause hes been researching, unlike dogpack to make sure his facts are correct
0 likesBecause the refutation of all those points does not matter. At the end of the day Beast was doing too well for too long, people hate that and are just searching for a reason to justify their feelings. When a huge wave like that builds up you are not stopping it with logic, you have to wait it out and then try to explain later(thats why 99% of time the best response anyone can make to a drama is no response). Of course there is still some shitty stuff beast did, but all things included he is not even in top 100 terrible big youtubers.
0 likesYou can see it even under this video: people just go "oh so the person that we were worshipping just a week ago is actually manipulative pos who is trying to get vengeance, well w/e I still hate Beast" and find some other reason to be angry.
Coming back to your point of them not suing: think about the optics of suing dogpack right now, people would just cry that a massive company is abusing its financial power to punish a whistle blower. But if they don't sue "why don't they sue him if he lies". And it just goes on and on. If he responds it doesn't matter (I explained why), if he doesn't he is guilty, if he sues he is guilty, if he doesn't sue he is guilty. The ONLY answer is not to answer lol.
sorry for the rumbling I was bored lol
1:01:47 It's no NYC, but at least it's not Kansas!!!!
0 likesI knew ..
0 likesJust leaving a comment to help push this video in the algorithm
1 likePansino and Dogpack should be sued and investigated for slander and libel
1 likeI think if you're going to nitpick slip-ups like Dogpack forgetting to say "alleged" one time and Jake Weddle only stating that a voice recording is AI after showing it, you should avoid that kind of misleading behaviour yourself.
1 like(29:30, you claim you are now going to submit the FBI report and animate a mouse cursor clicking on it and then later go "uh also, I didn't actually submit it")
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I don't think you get it. That point of that was to show how submitting an FBI report against someone doesn't mean that person's guilty.
1 likeGoku
0 likesWhat happened to idubbbz
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he married a succubus
4 likesRidiculous how many creators all these horrible accusations went through before ANYONE did any fact-checking. Content creators are so fucking lazy nowadays
1 likeAnime girl
0 likessoggy youre my king :3
0 likesSandyHook404
0 likesLie cry
0 likesWow, great video
0 likesCereal
0 likesFake pholosipy
0 likesbro got the bag from mrbeast
2 likesCute how Jimmy hired this guy to try and undo his crimes, we all know Jimmy is a criminal
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He hates both
0 likesHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
2 likesidk man you didn't change my mind on Dogpack even if he's biased and has errors in his reporting the things that matter are bad. I don't care someone misrepresented the facts cause it made all the issues in general come out.
1 likeThe mahinda bomb 7:59
0 likesThis is it
0 likesplot twist
0 likesNon anynimous
0 likesWelcome to Trump's New America ladies and gents
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@@redshepherd32 i don't mean by that idiot
0 likesI mean we are in the beggining of a new era that everything is a lie or AI generated we can't trust anyone
This whole situation started before the election results. Try again.
2 likesIdk 8 min also sound like the guy is trying pull back his statements
0 likesMe all the questions were leading
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when
0 likes41:44 is that OKI??
0 likeslmao this gets worse every week
0 likesYou're lying too.
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Proof or gtfo
0 likesmight be lying about lying
1 likeI don't know man, I think you're lying
4 likesMaybe even I am lying
commenting for algorithm
0 likesthose 2.1k dislike are meat riders of dogpack lol
2 likesGLUCK GLUCK CEREAL
2 likesOnly one man is sending memes into space. Elon be thy name.
1 likeFrenchman detected, opinion REJECTED.
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Lol dogpack rider 2
0 likesThe difference between Soggy and Dawson video is that I feel comfortable with Soggy while Dawson I have uncomfortable cringe feeling
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Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.
0 likesRocket car yt
0 likesI'm shocked that no one has sued Dawson for defamation yet
1 likeSooooo
0 likesThey both suck
Ex ofrender
0 likesBro fan
0 likesDamn i must be getting old cuz i can see right through this slop of a video.
4 likesIts clearly meant for the "mr beast" audience, and i can tell. The exaggerated movements to the loud voice with accent.
23:27 "it took himMONTHS to build the rocket car" yeah ok buddy it looks like a preschool duct taped a "car" together.
😂
CRINGE.
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@@StrikerEureka13sometimes you gotta accept the fact that some people are just single-celled
0 likesAnd you obviously have no experience with engineering. A car like that isn't easy to make.
1 likeAre you upset that he has an accent?
1 likewhatever you say, green eyes
1 likeFraudpack
2 likes24:35
0 likesI mean isn´t Mr Beast in the same bitcoin trouble as Logan Paul? So is Coffeezilla lying about all his allegations as well? I feel like this video glossed over some of the real concerns and focused on a few things that no one really cared about. Just the stuff these dudes were grasping at straws for in order to save face. Even if the guy was wrong about a few things it doesnt change Mr Beast is under investigation from actual people who do this for living without the youtube videos. So we will all see what comes of this.
0 likeswhat a surprised😑
0 likesEhh Mr beast still sucks I thought this drama was over. Milking these views
1 likeno you cant criticize mr beast he is giving some of his money to poor people
0 likesThe guy who says his balls is right about mrbeast is about to get bamboozled
0 likesIn all seriousness, mr beast is not a saint but maybe just a normal decent dude, the good thing about this drama is probably people stop over glazing mr beast
Jake is so annoying and unbearable it's unbelieveable. It's like 9/10 "comedians" are trash these days
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He's painfully unfunny. It's like he's competing with Def Noodles for the bottom slot.
0 likesAfter watching this I’m realising I’m too stupid to make a decision on this situation 💀
0 likescrazy
0 likesEh ehh ehhh
0 likesI don't care what you all say, everybody has done bad things but Mr beast has helped more people than anyone in the youtube community, he is not an angel of course but the reason people are hating on him is simple, you can be very clean from top to bottom but if you have a little booger on your nose than your disgusting and no one wants to be around you, so yeah Mr beast has a booger but don't ignore the good stuff also
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@@Anomity99 ? I'm not at all sure how what you said at the end has anything to do with me. Disprove who? And I specifically said that it is beneficial regardless of intent, and that people can use it for personal gains. Didn't disregard anything, and specifically said it's important to know if there is wrongdoing going on.
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@@Walrus101 While not inherently bad, acts of charity can certainly be used to cover up bad things. Whether or not it is actually the case, you can't just disregard the possibility just because you want to disprove a few people.
0 likesMr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago. He was also fully aware of Ava Kris Tyson being a predator...
2 likesYou're right in how aggressively people want to tear down Mr. Beast. It's definitely important to notice when wrongdoing is happening, but a ton of people seem to relish his "downfall" because they didn't trust him or etc., so it confirms their suspicions and biases. Like they would rather be "right" for seeing him as manipulative and selfish than for him to actually just be doing good things. And people act like acts of charity are bad if they further someone in the process, when it helps people regardless of the givers intent.
0 likesYou also can't just ignore the bad stuff just because its masked by good. It can go boh ways.
4 likesA
0 likesHow did we never see through this, I mean atleast mrbeast isn’t a terrible person, allegedly. Now please don’t be a liar as well because I’m losing my mind right now
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@@hellboy9458 He did not.
4 likesProbably because Dogpack took advantage of the Chris 'Ava' Tyson drama to boost himself, Allegedly.
1 likeWatch Dogpack404 delete his account. Karma is finally impacting dogpack
0 likesLeave Beastie Alone! 😭
1 likeId rather be a five year old glued to YT shorts than one of you 15-35 year olds using flashy and snarky brainrot “insults” against a justified, passionate creator.
0 likeswtf are these “MrBeast should have responded” and “I wont watch the video” and “the spirit of it is a warcrime” slop comments?!? I could only wish an AI is trying to spam these braindead takes.
Well, whatever… MrBeast or DogPack… scammers are there. And people who damage the other as well. Until, MrBeast talks for himself and don’t depend on external sources (like you) I will judge if continuing believe or just move on and ignore his childish behavior in wasting money in absurdities than really use it on the needed ones.
0 likesI called it and tried to warn people. But hey I'm glad now that philanthropy has stopped helping people it was worth it for that cheap internet rage bait.
1 likeIs this guy Onisions son? Uncanny.
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Don't compare him like that lmao, not deserved, and they really don't look much similar
0 likesOof
0 likesbro is making a video that mr beast should have made
0 likes5:26 you're showing your bias. no thank you
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@@basimcool9278 not saying he defends beast. just saying he has some biases that start showing as soon as he starts talking. Like defending beast AND a scum pedo because "bestbuy, a 100 billion dollar company with stores all over the US hired him". WHAT?
2 likesWatch this 42:29
2 likesThe footage you have of them digging the hole looks really uncanny
0 likesCringe dude
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@@andrew2677ratioed
0 likesNgl you right being a MrBeast shill is kinda cringe
0 likes@@andrew2677 But sir, what is cringe?
0 likes@@LongGone2 yup. Cringe.
1 likecringe comment dude
6 likes..so do you have anything to actually add or..
6 likescant wait for danny rayes to make a video on this
0 likesWell, this explains why Dogpack's videos felt like a personal vendetta, that tried to maximize the impact.
0 likesAnd sadly enough, that DOES reinforce my previous opinions about what Dogpack claimed, but never really substantiated. Like, he said much in his videos, but either rarely showed proof of his claims or blew them out of proportions. Like production yacht one for the raft video could be true, but there was never any evidence for it. It was just believed because he substantiated other, unrelated claims and throwing this all together into one video makes everything in it believable by default.
Also, his criticism of Beast Philantropy, there was one very good call out that Beast never paid that one charity for the eye surgeries, but the remaining video was just full of "CGI here, fake there", but just because he uses CGI, does it make it less charitable or expose him for not doing those things? Even the eye surgery charity one feels a bit out of left field. Sure, a business should not fail to pay such large sums, when agreed upon (by contract?), but it was one of many charities that helped on those eye surgeries, so maybe it was a one-off honest mistake? (Wouldn't explain why it took them until massive public outcry to finally pay)
He just wants to drag MrBeast down as revenge, since he fell in this unique position of utilizing an ongoing scandal with Ava. It's not like all the previous tries of people that were just silenced by current disinterest of MrBeast negativity. He got a lucky break, and he utilizes it to its fullest. Idk if this is commendable or disgusting.
Watched a summary of the vid, and all I have to say is that dogpack is not the problem here, he is bringing to light something descusting that the biggest YouTuber on the platform is/was doing, most people are afraid to talk but he wasn't, good or bad guy idc he showed Mr. beast real colors, and the crypto and colab with KSI and Jake (or Logan I always confuse the 2 both trash people anyway) just shows most of the stuff he said ia real, no one in they're right mind would colab with someone that filmed a person dead. Also the part where you show him pleading for his job that was a good manipulation tactic, dude was losing his fucking job ofc he tried to has fir more chances he's a normal person, that's the reason I didn't watch the full video, if you try to manipulate 1 time you 100% did 2 times or more
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dogpack? that you 🤣🤣🤣🤣
5 likesJake weddle is such a snake
0 likesSubway guy was payed to lunchables
0 likeswhat about the company beast worked with with his blindness video and they came out saying they never got paid at all and he took credit and made money off of their work. or the crypto stuff coffeezilla covered
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@@NatsuDragneel-um1ir mr beast wroked with a 3rd party who worked with a ton of differnt organisations across the globe, the 3rd party forgot to pay one of the organisations, when the mrbeast team was made aware of this they payed the organisation directly to resolve the issue.
1 likeimo, mrbeast didnt really do anything particualrly wrong in that situation
@ I ain’t watching this can you sum it up for me if it’s true or not
0 likeshe covers this at the end of
1 likeThe way that this will never reach the amount of publicity that dog packs video makes me lose all faith in the Internet.
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Probably because this is a fake video, did you watch the video this guy made a few weeks or month ago? He deleted it.
4 likesIs there anyway you could’ve made this shorter?
0 likesGot to love someone who seemed slimy since day one, getting exposed as being slimy.
0 likesDude couldn't get views so he had to change the title/thumbnail... This is a nothingburger and you didn't "disprove" anything at all dude. In fact you even gave more evidence to SUPPORT a lot of the claims against Mr Beast and the best you could come up with to "debunk" things was "well he didn't show 100% black and white, pen and paper evidence for this yet sooooooo CHECKMATE" lol
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Are we watching the same video? Or were you watching with your eyes closed?
1 likewhat pieces of evidence supported dogpack? if you don't provide anything then i am going to assume you watched the wrong video
0 likesWhy do you think he didn't disprove anything? At the very least you have to admit he disproved the Delaware stuff. And how did he end up providing more evidence for the claims? Comments like this that just say sh*t without any proof only serve to make people more angry.
1 likewhat were you watching?
2 likeslmao never believe someone who poses himself as a messiah
0 likesSex offender war crimes
0 likesHow much is JimmyBeast paying you?
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how about stop watching youtube shorts to shorten your attention span?
0 likesHow much dogpack pays you to Waste your time on this
1 likeJimmy glazing
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Your a probably a Ipad kid who doesn't care about the truth and glazed the actual manipulater
0 likesIQ 3
Lil bro didn't watch the video he pulled so much evidence and he said he isn't defending either side please go back to shoving crayons up your nose
3 likesShill for beast lmao
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Scab for Dogpack Lmao
0 likesOk shill
1 likepaid actor video.
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Being a Dogpack glazer must be difficult
0 likes@@hydro1389 yeah just because he gives a shitty excusation doesnt mean its not in fact a paid actor video. Too many reasons why it is. From the taped audio recording to MrBeast trying to spread this video via DMs to other youtubers.
1 like42:31 Actually watch the video before you comment
0 likes@ didn’t even say anything against TOS either, mfs are against freedom of speech on here.
0 likes@@rileyn54 Youtube auto mod be doing the same to me all the time
0 likes@@DDArtsArts don’t know if my comment is still up, it just disappeared when I came back to check but I gave my two cents on it. If it isn’t appearing here it got taken down. Just an FYI
0 likes@@rileyn54 What, pray tell
0 likes@@DDArtsArts nah too many signs pointing to this ngl
1 likeEasiest cope ever, come up with something new
5 likesBoost The algorithm
0 likesBro doesn’t even know about the crypto scams and MrBeast Did😂
0 likesGlazer
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@@TornMarmot still wdym glazer
0 likes@ I said ‘glazer’ not ‘glazing’
0 likesWdym glazing bru
3 likesActually, at 43:00 you mentioned that picking dogpacks side is the option to get you millions of views and hundreds of thousands of dollars, but channels like pegasus would typically not receive that much from one video, making every claim in this video illigitimate.
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Yeah, that’s exactly why he cranks out multiple videos—because it rakes in way more money and views. It’s literally the definition of slop content, you absolute genius. But hey, keep defending it like it’s high art.
0 likes😂😂😂
1 likeI don’t get why 39:02 they would put him on a salary for no reason? Why would they do that?
0 likesSorry Mr Beast
0 likesSmelly cereal just admit that you got paid by MrBeast
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When I'm in a coping competition and my opponent is a DogPack glazer.
1 likeAlso why would Soggy admit that Jimmy committed an illegal lottery if he was paid? Like dude, stop with the conspiracy theories and get off Dogboy's meat.
🤦
1 likeStupid people listened to this Dogpack and make him popular with only 2 video. He gained fame over night. MrBeast is original Subscribe to him . He's going to be the first YouTuber to hit 1 billion subscribers.
0 likesAlright what about the obviously fake 7 days at sea lies, and the mark pete garbage and much more.
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He covered it in the safety segment.
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Dogpack meatriding?
0 likesThis is awesome like I just knew something was wrong
0 likesJake is clearly an attention-seeking little dweeb
And dog packs motivations never made sense they just never ever made sense
1:02:04 bros legit syndrome😭
0 likes39:20
0 likesI like how he calls out dogpack for leaving out the part where he said he was “going to give the money to his friends” while he leaves out the part where the entire video that shows it was not only fake but planned.
Not only that but they painted Mack as a “random contestant” as to manipulate watch time out of a young impressionable audience. But why would Soggy leave that part out 🤔
40:24
His plane tickets were paid for by the Mr Beast company and Mr Beast commented on the video when it had 13,000 views. I don’t know about you but something seems fishy here 😂
3 likesCrisis management team starting to clap back on truth sources such as dogpack... Idiocy
1 like12:50 shows his stupid this whole video is btw. This wasnt even real bro Jake said it himself it was a joke in the dogpack interview you moron 🤦🤦
1 likeFor those who cant stand disingenuous arguments, Paid off mrBeast glazing and general stupidity skip the first 20 minutes. He spend the whole time defends a pedophile
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This comment is factually inaccurate
4 likesThis debunking does 0 to change my opinion on Mr Beast. It’s just a distraction, everything else was just he said she said or entire topics were ignored including to make Jimmy seem better. There is actual evidence to support his claims, some of it was just misleading.
2 likesMost of your argument is “dog pack is weird and his coworkers don’t like him, so he’s wrong.” Just like how you shouldn’t be easily swayed by dog packs video, you shouldn’t be easily swayed by this one either.
Edit: Also the whole thing with Airacks friend Mack who they paid to act as a random Subscriber and manipulated kids into getting emotionally invested this fake video series was never mentioned. Disgusting use of exploitation by Jimmy!
Let’s not forget about the Beast games, the crypto scams, or the disaster that was Lunchly. I still think he’s garbage.
0 likesAlso great points disproving Dogpack, but Jimmy literally called him Delaware in the video 😂
How much did you get paid for this lame slop, shill?
5 likesIt doesn't debunk 99% of the claims against mr beast corroborated by dozens of employees. Enjoy your payday you spineless loser.
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@@rambonicothey don't have the attention span to look at the whole vid
1 likeMrbeast and dogpack404 suck both
3 likeslike dwag watch the video then comment
1 likei swear now the brainless kids are getting in on it
1 likeIt feels like its all been a distraction from the fact MB employee and BF was a PedOH. Pull up ex employee, have him make a TON of nonsense claims and bury the real claim. Something that is regularly done by damage control agencies.
1 likeI called him out on his videos and couldn't believe people would believe him. I'd watched the videos and just knew he was an idiot. The 404 gave it away as a Minecraft meme. Error 404. Kind of sad he used his dog for views cause he, himself is a dog.
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Error 404 has nothing to do with Minecraft lmfao.
1 likeNever fully believed 404 but this is nonsense, you were hired by one of the people involved so your just as biased as 404 but on the other side. Somewhere in the middle of both videos is reality.
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@@aveyr_Probably not
0 likesDid u watch the video?
0 likesdawson is that one nerd who ain't smart
1 likemr breast didn't want to respond himself, so he paid you off?
4 likesYou either do not know how English works, you do and try to bullshit us, or your last few brain cells are getting fried
also, not brushing your teeth is very unhealthy, but showing them on video is just disgusting.
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Watch the vid
0 likesworst video ive ever seen - biggest mr breast glazer ive seen in a while - 100000000 strawman agruments, alomost no proof for anything u say lmao
7 likesThey still call this creep man pretending to be a woman a "She" this generation is doomed.
2 likesSorry not sorry but Mr beast is terrible I hope you realize that if you’re being paid say that
0 likesMrBeast is still a psychopath who hires groomers and makes fake videos and garbage crypto scams lol, nothing changes that
0 likesSo Jimmy AND Dawson are trash 😲
0 likesDude shut the fuck up with the cringe fucking falsetto voice whenever you set up a strawman. Holy shit it's more annoying than knowing dogprick is a liar and manipulator, like what are you fucking 12? It's like I'm hearing the argumentative equivalent of a fart joke. To top it off you scrunch up your face like a puckered asshole. How fucking fitting.
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mf has an owl as his pfp and is talking all this smack. Stfu “postman” ain’t nobody care what you gotta say except me apparently 😭🙏
3 likesI can’t wait for this guy to delete the video when Dogpack and Rosanna make a counter video and this guy runs like a pussy because of the backlash, just like when he deleted the slop video because of Dogpack.
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Keep coping, Dogboy glazer. He ain't gonna make puppies with you.
0 likesHe didn’t delete the video cuz of dogpack
0 likesMr Beast is the anti-Christ, I ain't watching this.
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@jamesthegoo7600 You have the time to listen to DogPack but nobody else, I see? Keep coping, Dogboy glazer.
0 likes@@jamesthegoo7600Proof that he's anti christ
0 likes@@dragonpg3d-andmore I don't need to listen to anti-Christ sympathizers
0 likes@@jamesthegoo7600just say you didn't watch the video, its obvious that you didn't
0 likes@@Huseinburg Glazing the guy who fakes giveaways and defended nonces is not the truth, Mr Beast is demonic.
1 likeWhat
0 likesYou cant handle the truth 😭🙏
2 likesIt’s he, not she’s. Just cause he’s named Ava, doesn’t make it him a she. Please stop enabling this pedo
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@@DanielJacobs-rz1zlno, the pefo thing is true
1 likeSimp @@DanielJacobs-rz1zl
1 likeShe's a woman and isn't a pedo.
0 likesbro you dont even know how to spell or use the right stayed lmao
2 likesediting this after reading some more: YOU CANT SPELL ANYTHING CORRECTLY. PEOPLE STOP MAKING YOUTUBE CHANNELS TRYING TO MONETIZE AND CAPITALIZE OFF PEOPLE GO READ A FUCKING BOOK
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@@cool3Dhorse there are two versions of stayed in the english language. "stayed" the past tense of stay and "staid" an adjective that means serious or dull. he is using the wrong one.
1 likeif you want to make video essays and informational videos its a reasonable expectation that there are no grammatical or spelling errors.
What do you mean by "the right stayed" and hes Belgian
1 likeBro might be dumber than Dogpack. 😂
0 likesCongrats on making yourself a useful idiot for a psychopath.
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@canislupus3655 Wrong. If you are paying attention, you'll notice Mr beast is actively weaponizing this video to score a win, and clearly it's working on some of you.
0 likesSomething tells me you didn't watch the video
2 likesStop sounding like a pretentious douche and ill start listening to you.
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@@norhe. I did watch the important parts, but a better question iss what did he not cover. So what did I not watch? That's a better question
0 likes@@Querian Yeah how dare he say anything about dogpack404 😡 its obvius de dogpack404 vidjeo was truth... and i to didnt even watsh the vidjeo becaus he sound so abnocius and I alredy know he lie
1 like@@KeepCoping679 no literally, he sounds so incredibly pretentious. I prefer to know the whole story, but his tone and his careless labelling "liar" and "manipulating" makes his video literally unbearable to watch. It almost makes it bad journalism with how he decides to point out stuff.
1 likeStop making it obvious that you’re a dogpack rider
7 likesNot to take away from this video because it’s pretty good but I find it interesting how this guy was able to have so much access to mr. Beast employees and information yet coffeezilla was turned away and misdirected at every turn. It is my opinion that there are definitive skeletons In jimmys closet that the company is desperately trying to hide else why are they only letting biased coverage have access to interviews?
3 likesThis is why i call people stupid.
0 likesPeople are blowing over the fact that Mr. Beast's oldest best friend he still worked with last year, was an openly pedo. He shared CP with Mr. Beast in the group work chat. He was wrong about it being a 13yr old Ivanka. Also the house they filmed videos in had Shadman CP on the wall hanging in the living room. The other discord chats about sexual inuendo was numerous. I have a hard time believing Jimmy did not know about Ava, and I believe he knew and was ok with that at the least.
3 likesyou're a joke and a spineless rat. glad you are getting your piece of the pie now and giving the Beast team legal and narrative leverage. Pretentious dumbass trying too hard.
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@@hunterreeves454 I'm trying to comment something that agrees with you yet my comment keeps getting deleted. Really says something
0 likes@@KeepCoping679 gimmi some decent criticism lol. You think your comment does anything? Your comment looks like it was written by a brainwashed brain rotted little wimp. Go try doing your math homework lil bro.
0 likes@@hunterreeves454 weaponised comments gave done immensely damage to society. They are literally the best/worst form of propaganda. They're literally used by all major governments and agencies to push their agenda. Be it Russia, the u.s or mossad.
1 like@@hunterreeves454 Jesus, you know it all. These ai bots are literally weaponised propaganda. Their used by the Russians, Israeli government and even the United States. They are powerful tools to influence people. People need to recognize that just because it may sound human and like an average person, that comment could be easily ai, or a government employee attempting to push an agenda.
1 like@@KeepCoping679 there's literally no point of this video other than obviously weird coverup for Mr Jimmy Beast and his brand itself???? Sorry people also with brains have more discernment that maybe you haven't reached yet?
2 likes@@KeepCoping679 No one and I mean especially any serious journalist or accredited person in media is riding dogpack nor this obvious media plant. People can obviously outweigh dogpack and apparent virtuous soggy cereal who only used sources directly tied to Mr Beast (Jimmy) and his whole brand including everyone under it that's legally liable and paid by the guy. Please get from under my replies with your brain rot.
1 like@@Querian I can't even begin to state in any fashion; the damage AI and bots are currently doing to modern legalities and the legal system generally all over the world currently and especially in superpowers with huge media complexes like the US. It's insanely sickening and disheartening by the day to constantly fight against. So, godspeed and thanks to you and anyone else trying to really see with eyes wide open instead of conforming to insensibility and ignorance stemming all the way back to the mafia days of the media and the narrative fights against the mobs. (Albert Patterson and many others like him lives on through us all in the spirit and ideology. True virtuous whistleblowing work and journalism shall never be left to die in the dark and we're currently seeing the biggest ongoing war of justice and truth in media than ever funded by big sharks with big $ and interests of control starting with Elon and similar)
2 likesLMAOOOOOOO THESE DOGPACK RIDERS 😂😂😂😂😂
2 likesLiterally this man, not even 48 hours and the world has figured out this was propaganda promoted by Jimmy Beast
5 likesLove you man. You can see through this bullshit, and all their trash lies. Plus I bet half the positive comments on this video are literal payed bots.
4 likesat this point, i think dogpack is the fraud himself
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@@CiRdy34 😂
0 likesi guess now you could say we are smoking on that dog pack
1 likeImagine being so desperate for Dogpack to win yall are trying to counter his argument, even with evidence 😅
1 like@@TheTrueBlueOne yep he is
0 likesAt this point, I think Soggy was a puppet used by MrBeast
2 likesYou sure. You just watched an hour of a one sided take. I suggest you do some investigating and draw up your own conclusion. Not one created by a random guy.
2 likesYou make a lot of insane claims that Dogpack is deliberately misleading people in his video, when that itself just isn't well founded.
5 likesIt's very clear Dogpack isn't a trained, professional journalist who had a team of fact-checkers, he's some guy who threw together a compilation of very fishy looking stuff, and inevitably got some bits wrong. So what? Who's surprised?
In other parts you're like "non-anonymous source beats anonymous source!!!" as if that's at all true. Obviously employees who defend MrBeast are willing to have their names released, because their head won't be on the chopping block, that's not an argument. No whistleblower wants to be exposed and that's not a reason to dismiss them.
All your interviews with employees come across as little but PR shills, and again aren't really relevant, just because some employees are willing (and probably paid) to say nothing's wrong doesn't invalidate others' claims. And they wouldn't be publically talking if they weren't given express permission by MrBeast. MrBeast wouldn't have given permission to any employee willing to talk shit, so the interviews are effectively meaningless.
You really do fucking dox and try to "expose" DogPack as if who he is really matters. It's not actually relevant who he is at all, to be honest, and he's maintained that from the start.
Feels like you're just clinging onto minor things and drumming random shit up to clout chase rather than convincingly establish or debunk any facts.
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Being bad at research does not excuse spreading misinformaton. For example the 50 something old guy's wink being CGI. And do you know what dox means?
1 liketrue he just mistakenly accuse someone of so many things and he is not professional that's why he claims things without any proof and also he is just a kid that's why he has to manipulate the clips to show it as real. So sad of him wish he was professional scammer so he could have done these manipulation in a better way
1 likegarbage shill piece. You're literally saying mrbeast didn't run a background check then you start downplaying the fact that the company hired a sex offender and kept him on for years as "jimmy was dumb and young" despite no background checks were done at all despite Mr.beast's company growing to become a global billion dollar company. Anyone who takes your video seriously after this garbage take is a moron
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yeah, honestly man I'm disappointed in soggy, bro had a good reputation at first but as soon as he gained a tiny bit of attention from exposes airrack, he just let that get to his head and became a sellout to beast. Its just disappointing how bro threw away his integrity just for some cash, which tbh was probably a lot so I see why he would do it
0 likesthey are both assholes.
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Soggy Cereal video summarised: corrupt government leader (Jimmy) uses corrupt journalist (Soggy) to slander corrupt rebel leader (DogPack)
1 likedude u literally missunderstand most of what those videos are about. Either you are trying to get some clicks with ur shitty video or you are actually just illiterate . Delete this
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What are they about goofy?
2 likeswhat????????
2 likesBro is a D1 hater
3 likes??
2 likesYeah, this has clearly been set up by Beasty boy’s people. Trash.
0 likesHalf of your show was dedicated to Mr Beast BS? C'mon man! What a fkm waste of space.
4 likesPut some real shit on. Like how Trump's Nazis are going toi target BROWN immigrants when the deportation starts. F--k Mr Beast and all those entitled overprivileged a55h@les WHOREALLYGIVESAF?
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There’s going to be a rise in hate crimes these upcoming years
0 likesThen go to a political channel
0 likesSAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PPL IN THE BACK
3 likesPansino is incredibly successful. It seems very, very, very stupid to anchor herself to Dogmeat like she has.
0 likesVideo should be named "Turncoat Cereal trying to diss a possible dogscum"
0 likesfor dogpack404: "if ur gonna fuck around.. ur gonna find out"
2 likesCheck out $DOGON coin. Owned and run by dogpack404
1 likeDawson sounds autistic, my autistic radars are going off
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Lmao
0 likesI would like to point out that it seems the sides have flipped. What I mean is that attacking dogpack is now impossible instead of Mrbeast. I could have video evidence of dogpack robbing an elderly woman by gun point, and people would say “hush money/ai/not true”
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“It is easier to fool people than it is to convince them they have been fooled”
0 likesHalf the points you “disproved” didn’t prove anything. Mr beast ain’t going to pay you meat rider
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@ wouldn’t call that trash content. You’re clearly very lonely, not surprised you don’t have any friends to be honest
0 likes@@asianboom aww, you were so desperate for comeback that you checked on my content. If that offended you that bad hop off
1 like@@AstroDashing from a child that records Roblox videos and of him playing with food packaging
0 likesBro clearly does not have the attention span to watch this video
2 likes@@asianboom lmfao when did he ride mr beast's meat? have some serious comprehension issues lmao?
0 likesCan you disprove the claims at SC made.
1 likedogpack meatrider
0 likes@ bruh I don’t watch skibidi toilet that shit is brainrot, also the reason that’s my profile is because I didn’t know what image to use
0 likes@ also this drama makes no sense anymore.
0 likesMr. Beast is sketchy
1 like@ I’m not defending him
1 like@@Keeb_the_mof hey, maybe don’t make dumb comment about topics you don’t understand kid
4 likes@@Matthias_Lives a child that watches skibidi toilet videos defending mr beast. What a surprise
3 likes@@asianboomwatch the video
2 likesWatch the video instead of writing a hate comment
3 likes@ another Mr meat rider. He ain’t going to wife you up bro
5 likeslol here comes dogpack meat rider
6 likesHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
8 likesAnother Dickrider, great.
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Yeah, and it’s you. Tell DogPack to take you off his payroll.
0 likes@@alexeystarkov7504 I know, i've watched it hgaha don't pay attention to these clowns
1 likePPl say watch the video, lmfao he's still didn't proven shit
2 likesWatch the video
1 like@@Keeb_the_mof nah he rides dogpack404
7 likesHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
7 likesWeird how you're able to get all of these Beast staffers in a video after the allegations. Seems to me like this is just bought and paid for defamation in hopes of falsely discrediting legitimate allegations.
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@@theunknown8735 I anticipate a response video deconstructing this one point by point, as I find it hard to believe the lot of this is even close to legit. So much of it just seems like a blatant oversight. The multiple current employees, meaning that they'd have had to be given permission by the man himself. The access to otherwise private things like recordings of firings and whatnot- also just seems like it could be doctored imo, just as the other clip was found to be AI.
0 likesGiven the censorship here, they're very clearly trying to push a certain narrative
@@hydro1389a mr beast employee (Dustin) paid for Soggy’s plane ticket. I’m sorry but that’s a conflict of interest and removes any non biased stance that soggy went into this with
0 likes@@ImSodaLiriousexcept we are not really disagreeing here, I am not really arguing for who the lesser evil is because I don't really care my whole argument is to give neither a get out of jail free card and hold them accountable for what they should be accountable for whether that's Dogpack or Mr. Beast and again Soggy brought receipts that to me seems pretty legit and if this does get taken to court which in my opinion it should one way or another then a proper deep investigation would.reveal.the truth anyway. Especially considering the level of slander here.
0 likesWe are not really disagreeing here. I'm not arguing for nor do I care about the lesser evil, both of them should.be held accountable for what they did do wrong
@@theunknown8735 another one of my replies censored. If you want to read it, you have to sort by newest, fish for my comment, and then look at it that way. Sorting by top won't display it. Strange, isn't it?
0 likes@@theunknown8735 I'm not giving either a get out of jail free card, but realistically, who is more likely to be dishonest?
0 likesA past employee who has a plethora of people whistleblowing to him, and personal testimonials from people who are actively risking legal action being taken against them by a multi-millionaire
or
A multi-millionaire with a lot to lose, has evidently used lawyers to promote baseless bullying tactics, has turned their comment section into a censorship hell, was proven to be best friends with a predator, and even went as far as removing content from previous videos depicting questionable scenes like them collectively looking at art from a CP artist?
Seems to me the answer is fairly evident. There's clearly a lesser evil here
@@ImSodaLiriouspossible considering they are from the same account and your argument does have validity that if the receipts were there why didn't Nr. Beast himself not show them?
0 likesI think it comes down to two reasons one is incompetence and the other that this video can be paid. Incompetence basically that the Mr. Beast side were more focused on sweeping the issue under the rug and waiting for it to blow over as they had more on their hands with the feastables.debacle and the lawsuits so they probably weren't focused on making such a video.
And the second as you said the possibility that this video does come from the Mr. Beast indirectly because Mr. Beast himself had lost in the court of public opinion and so needed someone neutral to help him.
The thing is that regardless of which the two reasons for this video are, does it take away from the credibility of the receipts and argumentations presented here?
And again, there are plenty of moments where Dogpack does go from the alleging territory into slandering territory like some of the stuff on the Rosanna podcast or the stuff said by Jake where they were clearly not "alleging". Also just saying "allegedly" does not free you from Slander if you were implicitly pushing a damning narrative.
Again the point you have raised is a valid one and I have no stake in this battle but Dogpack has always been sketchy to me and no one should be above scepticism or investigation and so we should look more into these receipts and Dogpack and I do think plenty of the receipts presented here are legitimate and can give Jimmy power both in the legal and public opinion court
@@theunknown8735 Alleging != slander
3 likesDon't you think that if there wasn't any validity to the original claims, there'd have been an official response discrediting them by now? Seems to me that this is their corporate, detached way of testing the waters by using a "third party". This is all reeks to me.
All of the people dogpiling comments like mine just lends credibility to my theory, given that they're probably also generating artificial traffic to push a certain narrative
@@ImSodaLiriousSlander implies falsehood. Care pointing me to the falsehoods present in the video that are as grave as slandering someone on distributing CP or committing a war crime?
1 like@@hydro1389 Weird how my reply got censored. I wonder if that's a coincidence
2 likes@@hydro1389 What I did was question the legitimacy and credibility of a "3rd party" user making a slanderous video in defense of someone who has already proven themselves to be slanderous AND predatory.
2 likesThey already tried doing damage control like faking a "leaked" email, so why are you so closed off to the mere mention that there's a possibility this is a Beast funded rebuttal? If it was directly associated with jimbo- guess what? It wouldn't be taken seriously- or it'd be taken as seriously as when the FBI investigates the FBI and determines that the FBI didn't do anything wrong- it'd be redundant. Odds are this is staged, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the comments like yours* are from a clickfarm/botnet
@@asianboom the only proof he has is "hE wAs AbLe To ReAcH oUt To ThE mRbEaSt StAfF sO iT mUst Be FaKe"
3 likes@ keep crying little one. Maybe mr beast will send you a chocolate bar and Chris to keep you company
2 likes@@asianboom says dogpack rider lol
1 like@@hydro1389keep crying mr beast meat rider
3 likes100% crazy how others are to stupid to see this
5 likesBecause he reached out to them, what are you on about ???
5 likeswho the fuck is the good guy anyone who is half decent in the community?
2 likesI tried to warn ya'll dogpack404 was a PDDDDF file
3 likesmr. beast still together with Logan/KSI who is confirmed scumbags
1 likelogan had enough money to make launchly but not money for refund cryptozoo and mr. beast still together with a scumbag like that and working with a scumbag like this
scumbags is mainly together with other scumbags
so still dont trust him
fuck all of these videos your annoying dog pack is annoying and mr beast is annoying i fucking hate all of this bullshit. mr beast is objectively horrible and dose not need a hero and you and dog pack are fucking irrelevant annoying nobody should have to say rich man bad it comes with the fucking title
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I can see steam coming out your ears
0 likesPerfect representation of an autistic overload in text form
2 likesLil bro tweakin
2 likescalm down jude put the ipad down
3 likesoh nah you off a perc
4 likesDude what are you actually doing just be a good content creator get off everyone else's page and do your own thing your really looking stupid I'm not a 10year old child so belive me when I say this and your channel is garbage
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0 likes"belive" after "I'm not a 10year old child" is crazy.. congrats on your 11th birthday 🎉🎉
6 likesSo I guess deleting all of the videos of the illegal lottery or firing the COO and CEO was because they did nothing wrong 🤔 I’ve never witnessed such a “I got paid to bash Mr. Beast’s biggest defector” had respect for you soggy because you exposed Airrack but get off of Jimmy’s gherkin. The man was best friends with a predator and knew about his behavior.
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There are people that delete their streams after streaming, for literally no reason. You can't just take that as proof.
0 likesStop being biased against mrbeast and actually look in both sides. Just cause he actually decided to not just listen to hearsay like you did and run with it doesn't mean he's worse of a person than you. Watch the video without glazing either one of those weirdos
2 likesoh he still called out one of the giveaway streams and called out Delaware btw.
3 likesyou can criticize both sides, it’s called nuance
Wat a moron ppl.. first they hate mr beast for some morons lies, then hate him.. wat a moron ppl
0 likesOh boy, now Soggy Cereal is a scumbag and someone is gonna make an "Exposing Soggy Cereal" video
4 likesThank you 🙏 Dogpack 404 and Rosanna have made their personality trying to take down Mr Beast. It was clear they were presenting a fabricated version of the “Truth”.
2 likesIn before we learn that Cody Ko hired DogPack404 to drop the MrBeast drama bomb to distract everyone from the previous YouTube hot topic.
0 likesOkay but seriously... interesting stuff, and I'm glad someone took a deep dive into this. There was a line in the movie Spotlight that I often think about when someone tries to prove anything. In the story, the Boston Globe reporters had confirmation on some, but not all of the dozens and dozens of priests who allegedly committed SA against children. Of course, even if they could only prove that half of the allegations were true, that's still a big story. However, editor Ben Bradlee, Jr. (John Slattery) called the strategy "too risky" and that if they're not "buttoned up" on all 87 cases, the Catholic church could use even one incorrect allegation to undermine their entire credibility.
Dogpack's videos, while entertaining, suffered from exactly this. There were parts that seemed pretty solid, other parts that caught me as "damning... if true," and still other parts where he seemed to be more speculative. The Manntonice and "Mr. 58" examples, cited in this video, struck me as precisely the latter. Dogpack just sort of made a leap in logic without actually following up with either of those two guys. Hell, it would have taken no time to visit Manntonice's channel and find multiple videos of Mark Pate talking about his experience and its aftermath.
I didn’t trust Dogpack from the start because, the dude has an annoying ass face like holy shit.
0 likesYou already know the guy is devious.
I got yelled at and called a beast apologist for saying dog pack was clearly a disgruntled employee when all this crap started. Think you can find my comment in the first video he dropped. The fact that I was right makes me feel like whatever username he used in Reddit. Just say you think you’re smart dummy. Stop using “made up language” to sound cool.
1 likeAlso you need to apologize for all the damage you’re doing to beast channel. Sure he has issues as a big company and may have done some crypto shit or associated with people who took advantage of using Jimmys name but for the most part Jimmy is a good guy. Working with a lady who clearly faked mold on her lunchly box and a dude who has mental issues to help feed your lies is insane. And the fact all the people you targeted were people who fired you shows what a bitch you are. Move on and get another job with another creator. Instead you now will have to try and make your way as a content creator but I doubt people will follow you. You’ll have a ceiling.
Anyway Soggy good job exposing this POS. Sure Jimmy has issues but most companies do but at least he doesn’t do the lying like Dawson does. Good god.
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Aww, he got offended. We must be sorry “ssworry” to him
0 likesHop off his meat bro he won't give you money
1 likeAnyone who defends Mrbeast is a perverted freak :p
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Must be hard you glaze Dogpack
0 likesIt is kind of interesting that the MrBeast machine finally ran into an enemy that was obsessive about Youtube and how to manipulate the attention economy as MrBeast & Co was. Yeah they did have to rely on a mountain of half baked evidence and bad faith arguments, but Dogpack made the giant bleed in the first significant way ever. Too late to say if the reputational damage is permanent, but no doubt the brand has been damaged (among people who are older than 12 at least) as the momentum has been against MrBeast for months now, and the half the Youtube game is about optics. Hard evidence and receipts never stopped people tanking the career of someone like ProJared (or ChuggaConroy it looks like) for example after they heard just one side of the story. And even just personally I highly highly dislike the way MrBeast has changed Youtube so I was prepped in advance to be on Dogpack's side before I even watched his videos if that makes sense. And even if someone like Dogpack isn't the ideal spearhead of the anti-MrBeast movement, Jimmy has already exhausted all my goodwill after watching that Coffeezilla video, so honestly: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
1 likeBro do something to take down this video
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@@Lanetgm pretty funny lol (but also actually take the outside its very nice)
0 likes@@LongGone2every time someone says that I will tell them that I go on hikes and Jeep rides all summer long
0 likes@@LongGone2 🤣
0 likes@@BarosulNebun I've touched grass for 15 hours today. Leave me be and you go touch some grass yourself.
6 likes@@LongGone2 you're real bored buddy, go touch some grass
0 likeswhy do you want the video taken down??
9 likes59:31 Your research is more credible than the work of that company who was paid to investigate, because that is always a conflict of interest, and I don't actually care if Dogpack had broken an NDA to tell the truth, his fraud speaks for itself that's the problem.
1 likeiDubbbz if he wasn't a cuck and actually has a personality
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@@shadowed69 While he hired a RSO, what does that have to do with the video?
1 likeThe video is ment to disprove dogpacks claims because some were fake. He is not attempting to put Mr.Beast in the limelight as he states himself in the video.
Its just disproving claims with no evidence/bad evidence from dogpack. where are you getting this narrative?
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago. He was paid. This guy is definitely a cuck.
0 likescuck a doodle do hes such a simp these days
1 likeoh my god more pasty white boys yapping about each other yippie
0 likesDogpack and BJ investigates are both TRASH>
0 likesThe way I see it, the majority of people associated with Mr Beast are parasitic in nature. They only focus on getting that AdSense bag and profit each other's controversies for their own sake. Genuinely just want to hear about Mr Beast getting shut down not because I think he deserves it, but because his entire company stinks of the exact kind of corruption that's currently killing the mainstream entertainment industry.
1 likeI think the best way to stick the knife deeper would be to post a bibliography to actually show proof unlike dogpack404
0 likesWhat is going on lmao
1 likeScumbag exposes a slightly smaller scumbag
1 likefederal agent paid for by jimmy donaldson
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I'm also a federal agent, good knowing my peers are working for dogpack
0 likesWell you see
1 like- Hes not wrong about any of the claims.
- Unlike him you have no source.
WoW. How much did Mr Beast PR team pay you. Straight trash. DO BETTER
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Me when I'm in a being disingenuous competition and my opponent is a DogPack glazer
1 likeName one incorrect thing he said. Dogpack is a manipulative liar, should we just let him get away with that without being called out?
1 likeDid.... Bro listen to the video at ALL? I seriously hate when people say this because he has well structured arguements and unlike dogpack is actually showing true sources and runnning background checks.
1 likeHowever you dont seem to understand that.
Yeah, I fucking knew Dogpack was an asshole. Him trying to deflect blame by saying he’s not getting money was so stupid. That only adds evidence for what the motif for your actions are. In some cases it could be benevolent, but in others it could be spiteful.
2 likesI. Don't. Give. A. Single. F*CK. ABOUT. ANY. OF. THIS.
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You obviously cared enough to comment
0 likesWe didn't ask
4 likesAlright now we need someone to make a piece on soggycereal calling him out
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@CharlieBruinsFilms I've seen you everywhere including political videos... small world
0 likesAnd then I'll call outside of that guy!
0 likesDick riderrr
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@MrMaskYT And you're any better?
0 likescope
1 likeJust saw this guy private his slop content video
0 likesThe first 6 min … it’s doesn’t sound like he lies tho .. guy is sex offender ✅ guy is called Delaware ✅
1 likeHe literally RAN illegal lotteries to MILLIONS kids.
2 likesThen started pulling said^ illegal lotteries from the internet.
I don't know if dogpak piece of sh&^ or cool. Mr. Beast... is ... pulling illegal lotteries.. had a sex offender in the company. Peace. oh ... he did lunchly lmao. idc lunchy
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@@ynam.2622
0 likesIf i enter lottery.. Paid... and someone WON by spamming inside chat.. (free) THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL.
Are you guys 5?
People had paid entries... and in those paid entries "winner in next 5 minutes. BUY sh&* guys"
then 10 minutes later... "winner in 5 minutes BUY shi& now!"
I mean... he keeps GIVING incentive to BUY into a lottery for next 5 minutes.. THEN extends the TIME... thats ILLEGAL.. HE IS TAKING THEM DOWN.. the "really bad ones"
The lotteries were not illegal as if you had watched the video, he explicitly states that you can enter for free in shopify or through the app and even shows someone who won something from those “illegal” lotteries for free by just spamming the live chat enough times to be seen and selected.
0 likes@@thatgirlwearingglasses4133 Are yall married?
0 likesI can't tell if you defending a man who crypto-scams his own audience. His platform.
Ugh 🙄
0 likesi wanted to watch this because it looked interesting. 1 AND A HALF HOURS!?! I AIN’T WATCHIN ALL THAT 💀💀
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0 likesWhat a cock rider for Jimmy you are
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lmao what a meat rider for dog pack you are '
0 likesyou're mad that jimmy is now innocent
At first I just thought you were dumb, now, I believe you and pyrocynical are just puppets payed off by MrBeast using a Lattitudes Of Acceptance manipulation technique to sway public opinion back to his favor.
3 likesSo who is gae ?
0 likesYou are a disgusting shill, i hope mr beast is paying you enough to defend ped0s
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@@jayv3n_n right, so you’re defending an idiot that only cares about money and definitely not his fans (who might I add doesn’t even know you exist) and your reply is « world war iii » go back to school 😹😹 sophomore in high school, you’re actually cringe bro damn, don’t worry you’ve got that asshat mr beast to treat you like a brainrotted child for when you get home from school at least. before talking to your « seniors » you literally live in America so obviously your « seniors » are gonna be dumb
0 likes@@boiwhoactuallyareyouOr better yet, how about you all go get a real life? Like seriously, why are my seniors—AKA adults—out here doing all this? I genuinely don’t get it. Coming from a sophomore in high school, if I had a girlfriend, I’d be talking to her instead of wasting time commenting on nonsense like this. Do we need a World War III or some wild catastrophe in the U.S. to knock some sense into everyone? Because at this point, it’s starting to look like it.
0 likes@@TheDarkSideOfJupiter-h1bthat’s just not true. they were well aware and jimmy not knowing what his « brother » was up to is actually impossible, they were in several discord servers together and Reddit servers which I’ve seen actual proof on. look it up, or keep riding that meat bro all the same to me
1 likeHe presented evidence. Jimmy didn’t know about Kris, he didn’t know about Delaware’s past. Did you watch the video?
2 likescant wait when a 3rd white boy to expose soggy cereal
1 likeNow it just looks like Mr east is paying some random foreigner money to defend him.
2 likesIs there a way to get a summary of this information without having to watch an insufferable moron talk for an hour and a half?
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Work on your attention span and then come back
0 likesYou're 12.
3 likesI completely agree with everything you said; sadly, it made me very clear that there's a lot of misinformation on Mr Beast's case. And it's kinda hard to really find videos like this one that speak this fully about all those issues without it being split into parts for likes and views.
1 likeAlso, I don't know if this was on purpose or not but damn, you speak like a dumbass or as if you bit your tongue during the entire video it's low-key annoying.
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Ah, yes, because the man was literally in Germany and had to fly to South Carolina. He sounds European, he looks European—are you sure you're not just blind, dumb, or maybe a little racist?
0 likeshe's belgian so i'm sure english isn't his first language
0 likesit's an accent man
1 like59:43 thing is i dont believe this guy but i think the discord beef you two had(?) is clouding a lot of your research into being way too favourable for mr beast. Theres way too many holes in your rationale especially if you know how high scale productions and media companies usually conduct business/content. Most of what you've laid out doesn't outright debunks the most egregious claims made by dogpack. They only provide a more palatable version absolving mr beast without any substantive independent research or proof.
2 likesthis mf literally Syndrome from Incredibles
1 likeIn addition to commenting on this video twice, MrBeast spontaneously DMs Youtubers like Pyrocynical and Dylan Zitkus on Instagram to watch this video, presumably to make videos about it. Make of that what you will, but I find that quite strange.
6 likesnice try fed! mr beast is still a scammer and pedophile defender
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@@plum.world.entertainment And what if you only think someone is a bad person because of the lies spread about them?
0 likes@@plum.world.entertainment That isn't okay. We shouldn't allow people to just make things up and get away with it
0 likes@@StrikerEureka13 normally no, but when it's against a bad human i rlly don't care tbh
0 likes@@plum.world.entertainment Dogpack intentionally spread lies and misinformation. Are you saying that is okay?
0 likes@@plum.world.entertainment I'm literally dumbfounded. Your reply is so dumb I don't even know how to respot
0 likes@@plum.world.entertainment 🤦
0 likes@@StrikerEureka13whole lotta "nuh uh" defending a bad person
0 likes@@plum.world.entertainment Did you even watch the video?
0 likes@@plum.world.entertainment It's not that he isn't kid friendly, it's what he has intentionally spread lies and misinformation
0 likes@@plum.world.entertainment 🤦
0 likes@@StrikerEureka13 i genuinely don't care, dogpack isn't trying to be a kid friendly youtuber
0 likesHe never claimed Mr Beast was good, he just showed that Dogpack is a fraud.
0 likesYou’re such a liar
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Name one single lie in this video.
0 likesIt's making me laugh
1 likeYour attention span is even worse than a goldfish 😒😒😒...
1 likeYou are
1 likeHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
2 likes"I'm too lazy to translate your made up language" this one sentence tells me everything I need to know about how dogpack operates... pure laziness and sheer ignorance.
1 likeThis video presents a lot of valid evidence and perspectives but to me nothing speaks louder on his character than this statement from him, the guy is plain and simply just a douche
Don't get why anyone trusted Dogpack in the first place. All it took was 5m listening to him on Ludwig's stream and I knew the dude was a fucking shady weirdo.
2 likesKRIS HIS NAME IS FUCKING KRIS HE IS A NONCE stop respecting him by playing into his delusion. Trans people I respect your wishes and I will respect your preferences until you involve children in which case you do not deserve the respect. If someone tells me they are a kettle I'll call them a kettle if thats what they want to be called and thats how they want to express themselves I'll happily play into that delusion nonces do not and should not get that respect at all
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@@t-eehee7057 one of my closest friends are trans I even questioned myself if I was trans I respect the community but my bro quinno (ftm trans friend) is disgusted that Kris is even claiming to be trans and he's annoyed that people like Kris are the very reason people hate on trans
0 likes@@StrikerEureka13 as I mentioned in my comment I accept trans people I will respect you and your preferred pronouns I'll even defend you on that until you involve children then you don't deserve to be respected in the slightest so unless you are a nonce yourself I really don't see how that would affect you? Why would you accept him as a trans?
0 likesSo you don't actually care about her, to begin with? I mean if you say you can play by his "delusions" that is
0 likesMaking your identity affirmation be a privilege you have to earn doesn't just hurt her, it hurts everyone in the LGBT community.
0 likestbh call them kris or chris i dont really care cause as a pedo i dont think they deserve the extra effort to get their gender right but ordering other people to call them a certain way, kris or chris is just weird.
0 likesstop moving the conversation to the fact they're trans. the issue is that they are a pedo.
I do hnderstand but we still call edp, edp and mini ladd, mini ladd instead of craig
0 likesWarcrimes doesn't mean whats actually happening in wars around the world. the USA won't put their prisoner through such a treatment to deny them the daylight or stay sleepless or water boarding...these are all forms of torture. 🤷 Jimmy doing this for views ....dangling a irrefutable 10k for every 24 hrs of torture is kind of f'ed up. he also told that he had the social pressure to not quit early (to avoid ruining the video) even though from the rules he could. it may also his affect his opportunities for appearing in more videos.
1 like30:38 so far bro is just as culpable for a lot of thing he's going at this dogpack dude for. Cognitive dissonance off the charts
2 likesRosanna's video on Lunchly was great, but she's otherwise a dumbass
0 likesDumbasses will see this and still say soggy is is meatriding
0 likes5:57 already giving Jimmy way too much grace and infantalizing him while minimizing his clearly weird behaviors but go on
3 likesDogpack is horrible
1 likeLet the Mr Beast dickriding COMMENCE!
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@@lastbreath3266 Is this the only thing you can say? You sound like a child
1 likeI bet kid with attention spend of a goldfish 😒😒😒
1 likecame here for the mr beast comment because I know this fuck got payed by him
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@@Monodexus dog shit
0 likes"Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol"- Mrbeast's deleted comment btw.
0 likes@@Monodexus maybe just watch the actual video before making up assumptions because there is alot of proof and btw idk what the hell is this drama is gonna be now it's really confusing
0 likes@@GCIndustries i spelled it right it just didnt have punctuation
0 likes@@Monodexus Wasn't, at least spell it right when you are correcting somebody's grammar.
0 likes@@Anthony-zy2px you're atleast spell it right also wasnt meat riding dog pack for an hour
0 likesyour a paid dogpack404 bot
5 likesFrom this video I can find a flimsy evidence to suspect you of living in the Netherlands hahaha
0 likes1:00:41 ummm soggy. It does Devalue the signature heavily. If it's not signed by the the original person, it means jack shit. Pawn Stars and people who verify signatures has proven this multiple times. You want the signature of Abraham Lincoln, Not the signature of his proxies which are secretaries and clerks.
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he wants everything to be absolutely wrong so badly
2 likesCan we all agree that both sides are pieces of shit, both Dogpack404 and MrBeast are just not good people.
2 likesEuropa the last battle style propaganda, trying to defend one of the worst people in the world. We need a revolution to save us from the clutches of that billionaire now that people support him again.
0 likesyeah this video ain't it lol
5 likes1. Hiring a registered SO isn't a 'mistake'. It's very easy to do a criminal record check before you hire someone. It takes a few weeks to get the results. You're telling me 2 grown-ass adults didn't know about criminal record checks?
2. Attacking someone who was put through a horrible situation because there's wars around the world is giving "Kim, people are starving in Africa". Also, just because it was a 'joke' to call something a war crime doesn't downplay what happened to him.
3. You're literally defending a guy who sold chocolate bars to kids and had them visit a website where they could spin a virtual wheel to win prizes
Both you and dockpack are equally unfunny and poor at the simplest of research, but at least he's brave enough to go after someone like Mr. Beast who is a horrible person hiding behind philanthropy. What's your reason for making this exactly? Oh, probably money too.
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This a horribly, HORRIBLY written comment. mamachromeYT stated most of my points, and your replies are literally "lol imagine not knowing grammar also I didn't watch the video that much haha."
3 likesYou are literally contradicting your credibility. He literally stated that he's not trying to side with either "Mrbeast is good" and "Mrbeast is bad". He says what needs to be said, even checking out a few reasons he "sadly" has to agree with.
At 19, are you making YouTube videos with high production and research to make sure people are clear of their wrongdoings, or are you trying to goof off with your friends and have a good time.
Your watchtime basically proves if you were Dogpack and Soggy Cereal, you'd definitely be as "equally unfunny and poor at the simplest of research". He didn't do it for money, it's because Dogpack was being a pain in the butt with him.
@@xDaringMotivewell yeah, that’s why soggy said it was stupid that they didn’t realize, and they fired him “half a decade ago”
1 like@@xDaringMotive first that part is grammatically correct.
2 likes2 not everyone who is 19 knows about how to do those.
@@magicdoggy9327 'Bro' I watched 30 min then went to do something better. All my points reflect the beginning of the video.
0 likes@@manachromeYT Lots of spelling errors there
0 likes"he was 19 and an amateur" Okay, what about his mother? I said 2 grown adults. At 19, I knew about criminal record checks.
@magicdoggy9327 I know. She is yapping.
0 likes1 he was 19 and was an amateur
3 likes2 he address what happened to him at the end of the video.
3 at the end of the video he mentioned that mr beast should stop colabing logan Paul 1:27:02
Bro forgot to watch the video 💀
4 likesWhat? 😂
3 likesDude, he’s right, you wrong by telling me about his life, I don’t care about him, mr.beast is still a douche and fraud, f creep
1 likeDid you ask about the fake philanthropy that Dogpack404 brough up in Rosanna's videos, like the CGI hospital. What about the other scummy philanthropy like cleaning a beach that the main channel dirtied in the beginning?
2 likesunbelievable. yes, dawson has made mistakes, some of these look like bad lies, too. but what you do is just as bad!
12 likesgoing for all the lowest hanging fruit, the weakest and least relevant of all allegations without nuance (many are not accusations, btw, wtf is meaningful fbi report). including debunked "accusations" that were never made by dawson but attributing them to him to make him look unreliable (ie delaware nickname, feastables child labor). crossing things off completely when it turns out that one part of the evidence was untrue (100 boys vs girls was still allegedly rigged against boys). using false dichotomies among other logical fallacies and leading questions. and all of this pinned on dawson with the intent to kill his entire credibility. contrapoints explained exactly how most of this video is structured:
(accusation): dawson provided an incorrect comparison of nutrition between hersheys and feastables. -> (abstraction): dawson lied to make mr beast look fraudulant -> (essentialism): dawson is a manipulative liar
if dawson's agenda is to get revenge as a disgruntled employee, what's your motivation for such dirty malice? is this controlled opposition?
This video is basically proven bullshit. Next
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Bro is plugging his ears and saying, "la la la I can't hear you!"
3 likesDogpack rider lmao
7 likesThis goes to show why people are stupid nowadays who believes everything without looking closely at the details and casually believes everything because they want to see mrbeast downfall lol, dogoack also has the audacity to make friends with other creators to promote his false gay allegations then again goes to show how egotistical dogpack is
1 likeWatching all these guzzlers join together to massive swallow, gulp, and glaze Mr. Beast and others is horrifying. OP and other commentors on this video should sincerely consider consuming copious amounts of cockroach poison and insecticide.
5 likesPlease consider the well-being of the human race and everyone else around you. Youtube algorithm can remove my post as many times as it wants to protect your feelings. I don't care. You chose to exist online, you can't hide from the shame and repercussions of your lifestyle.
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so false accusations are okay as long as its someone who you determined is "evil"?
0 likes🤣
2 likesWhy would I waste 1½ hours watching zoomers blast shit on each other? I gave your video 33 seconds, it's 33 seconds more than this piece of shit deserves. Sadly it will haunt me in my algorithm.
2 likeswhy are you defending mr beast when he hasn't even made a defense of himself. The cock gobbling is in full effect
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@@UrFatherr-yg7yl alright so in 53:05 soggy tries to prove that the timer in the 10 minute real time vid isn’t added in post but yet he skips the part where dogpack mentions that the intro is sped up and the guy touches the laser
0 likesMe when I'm in a coping competition and my opponent is a DogPack glazer.
0 likesNo do you have an actual argument thst refutes the claims made in this video or...?
@@americanconfidential because probably people wouldn’t listen to him?
0 likesnot worth it for mr beast. people wouldnt listen to him
0 likes@@americanconfidentialfax bro
1 likewhy didnt jimmy make this video is my point. This guy is bought and paid for
2 likesWell if this is truth then you could say is a hero because imagen all of us believing mrbeast is the worst person in the world, when in reality a ex employee just said all these fakes things because he was mad they fire him
7 likesim convinced that dogpack is just for profit
0 likessoggy shitty video. had to change the title and thumbnail to get views
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Had to comment twice huh
5 likesOh my god bruh. Just f**k anyone involved in this at this point.
6 likesSloptubers capitalizing off trends are far bigger criminals and should be demonetized at the very least. Especially when they are pushing such false/overblown narratives while contributing nothing meaningful to them.
1 likethe dick riding is crazy brah
7 likesYou are insufferable.
8 likesThank you soggy for calling out this weasel I was one of them not just believing in what he said like most people
0 likesIm trying hard to watch this as it's so interesting. But you are more annoying and manipulative than dogpack and Mr beast combined. Yikes.
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Why is he annoying and manipulative?
0 likesIrritating moron. Can't stand him.
9 likesboth can be true
2 likesnot to mention anyone who accepts working under mr beast is typically a special type of person as it is
The guys DogPack404 interviewed is suck little bitch, it's so annoying.
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@@Shad0w_353 They aren't doing it for Dogpack or Jake; it's more likely biased toward their crusade of canceling MrBeast.
0 likesI find it weird that Dogpack defenders claim that the people who are against dogpack are being paid by mr beast even though Jake himself was paid by mr beast
0 likes@@hellboy9458 Jake weddle is heavily inconsistent. He presents the war crime as a serious thing but sometimes he slips up and calls it a joke.
0 likesThe war crime was a joke, allegedly.
0 likesjake weddle is a genuine theater kid
0 likesWasn't Weddle making 10,000 a day? If that's the case I wouldn't mind being sleep deprived.
0 likes15:44 when did he compare himself to rape victims?
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In a wild instagram story rant
1 likeI knew this guy was a sack of shit the moment he talked about the CGI in his first video. Not even like 10 minutes into the video I knew he was full of shit. Now does that mean Jimmy is innocent? Hell to the hell no. But man Im good at reading people!
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Take all attempts of people "exposing" with skepticism. Chances are it's being done for additional reasons than whats presented. Including petty and malicious ones.
1 likeI think way to many people trying to pick sides in this drama while Dogpack404's claims where made with a lot of exaggeration and can be easily disproven Jimmy still has not talked about the accusation's and is not the saint that people claim he is. There can be arguments where both parties are in the wrong and both need to apologize.
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Messed up how someone can make up so much and be believed whole heartedly and the other side (jimmy) is hated on as hard as possible. Then when he gets exposed for lying, everyone shifts to the middle saying "both bad" and "idk who to believe" and "ok im not gonna pick a side"
0 likesBro, we all know Dogpack just wanted to hit the girl that was trying to expose Mr.Beast too 💀💀 And he did it. He won
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Rosanna?
0 likesFOR REALLLL!!!!!
0 likesWell if I learned something today is that Best buy can hire questionable people
0 likes42:54 I’ve seen Doobus Goobus MrBeast video. It’s essentially an animation of him calling out Twitter users for hating on MrBeast for his curing 1000 blind people video.
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ye wish he didnt include that in the scroll through but thats the only criticism i would have about this great video
0 likesthis is made so well that im only mad at you watching the minions since i hate that movie
0 likesI feel like Mr.Beast who is the one that the claims are directed to should've been the one to do the debunking not you but maybe you are Mr.Beast so I don't know.
1 likeMan man man, wat een zielig gedoetje allemaal...
0 likesGuys forget dogpack what ABOUT ROSANNA PANSINO
1 likeSo TL;DR of the vid:
1 likeAva is a degenerate
Jake Weddle is a degenerate as well as MrBreast's team
First lottery was illegal
not bad tbh
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@@DDArtsArts way more like what (except not mentioned mrbreast drama like amazon games)
0 likesWell way more than that but yeah
0 likesMr. Beast drama in a nutshell:
1 likehttps://youtu.be/lRX5b6SiR3o?si=UmVOqk0sZPWMoR_-
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tru‼️‼️‼️
1 likeglad i held off judgement from the beginning. kind of forgot about the whole situation until now
0 likesContent cop battle!
0 likesBut if Mr Beast is innocent, Why didn't he respond to the allegations????
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@@jaman6622 watch the video all the way though
0 likes@@jaman6622 look when you have allegations it can be seriously stressful especially if you know that the person isn't that great either. I would know from personal experience.
0 likeshes so large now that he cant publicly respond to drama or else every news site will milk him for a week
0 likesPeople don't trust MrBeast's response or any evidence thrown at them to disprove the allegations, and are likely to be biased in favor of cancel culture.
0 likesI recommend looking into the witch hunt against Daniel Lee 'Tablo.'
@@venomous7321 I finished the video and Soggy Cereal is right. Dockpack is a bad guy. And is a fraud. But Mrbeast is also not a good guy.
1 likeno one said he is innocent, the first illegal lottery, the ava kris tyson situation, the crypto scam and the lunchly stuff is still on him, he was probably silent for legal reasons
1 like@@venomous7321 Yeah but still why did he delete scenes in his older videos to remove evidence??? Why does he launch lunchly and say it is healthier than luncheables. LUNCHLY HAS MOLD IN IT. CMON. Still Mrbeast knew about Ava Tyson. He did that crypto stuff. Dockpack isn't perfect but Mrbeast should be locked up.
0 likes@@jaman6622this is why you aren’t in his position. The moment you got into drama you would crumble and admit to things you didn’t do. This isn’t highschool. If someone accuses you of heinous things, you respond through a lawyer (which he did)… he had an outside team of lawyers do an investigation. Use your brain bro, actually try to think for once in your life. Maybe watch the hour long vid that will explain everything to you. You have so many options but being an idiot seems to be the one you are choosing
4 likesWhy is Mrbeast deleting scenes from his older videos???? Why is he destroying evidence???? Sorry but Mrbeast is evil
2 likesI feel like a sheep smh
0 likesJake weddle is just a greedy broke 😂
0 likesPeople like you are human garbage. Clearly paid by Mr.Beast!
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@@d0ct0rz3d4 Wtf kinda logic is that. The only person paid off is Jake Weddle
0 likes@@d0ct0rz3d4 If I made a video defending some random dude and that random dude commented on my video would that mean I did something shady with that random dude?
0 likes"Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol" - the deleted comment made by mrbeast..... there's nothing shady about this.. no no!
0 likesLet's assume he is paid by Mrbeast, would that make him any less correct about the falsehood of some of the allegations. Don't judge people right away just cause they don't agree with you.
0 likesyou do know that jake weddle was paid by mr beast?
0 likessource: trust me bro
0 likes"paid off" come up with something new already or give up
1 likePeople like you clearly didn't watch the video because if you did you would see that he also makes arguments towards mr beast and has done actual research.
6 likesProvide evidence that he got paid; and he debunked the allegations that DogPack had made.
6 likesWell that's not a very polite thing to say
6 likesI have got to admit, I was manipulated, very much. Although I am not that much into MrBeast and etc
1 likeGuys like the video, so the algorithm can boost it
0 likessooo what next , debunk coffeezilla video ?
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The crypto scam is more scummy than illegal, but it's in a grey area — according to Coffeezilla's claim.
0 likeshe literally said go watch the coffeezilla video when it comes out since he doesn't understand crypto
0 likesI DONT KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE THIS DRAMA ISNT FUN ANYMORE
1 likebet
1 likeA lot of this seems like a cope ngl
3 likesانا ايش شفت؟
1 likeI like that MrBeast retracted his comment here.
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@@Twag7 "Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol" -mrbeast
1 like@@Twag7 Agreed.
1 like@@MunkeyKung All that yet still no response, what a joke.😭
2 likes@@Twag7 Something along the line of someone finally making actual reports instead of just slandering with a bunch of hearts added to it. (Even though this video is almost entirely slandering, just towards someone else, but ok)
2 likesI'm sure we'll see a screenshot of it in a youtube video soon enough ;)
Edit: Fun part is that Beast is going around asking youtubers to react to this video.
If only he put in half the effort in actually being a decent person...
What did he say?
0 likesI never got the warm fuzzies from DogPack, but pretty much went along with it, because it appeared he was bringing the receipts, and Jimmie did nothing to defend himself.
3 likesI am a little confused as to why Jimmie wouldn't protect his company - perhaps gearing up for a massive lawsuit?
Mr beast commented on my man dylan ziktus and i watched his video and now im here ( W banger)
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@@hellboy9458 yeah fr
0 likesNo wonder why this video went from 130k to 400k view skyrocket.
0 likesThis comments section makes it clear a lot of people didn't watch the full video
3 likesi knew u were legit since the first airack video 👑
3 likessome people dont deserve skills in psychology
1 like1:03:54 Dogpack reminds me a lot of Syndrome from the Incredibles, it's basically the same origin backstory lol
4 likesBoth idolized someone and wanted to work for them, both were rejected and decided to actively go against them and become a villain... Syndrome is better though
I knew it!
0 likesGood video. Actually providing evidence to support and actually PROVE your claims. If anyone comes after you like pansino or some shit, they are doing it because they are mad and are using this as a way to get views. Thank you for posting this.
3 likesDogpack404 is retarded
3 likesI have seen stucky's latest video.
1 likeDoctor Ramani would heavily disapprove AND disagree.
I don't trust you.
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@@DDArtsArts And as to which video is questionable, I'm referring to Soggy his video.
0 likes@@DDArtsArts The one called something similar to "Dogpack and narcissism"
0 likes@@MunkeyKung Which video of his are you referring to?
0 likes@@DDArtsArts That I do not trust Soggy, who claims to trust Stucky o so much on his research.
0 likesThat Stucky is a pos that uses a wonderful human being to push a point he does not understand and is incorrect, as well as that this video is highly questionable.
What is your point
0 likesThis video is so dumb, bad and full of "loop hole" arguments jeez
10 likesWhile I do agree that Dogpack lied about some stuff, he was right about others
- Illegal lotteries
- CGI was used
- Darcy Oake is trained actor proving that mrbeast DOES hire actors and script videos
- The raft challenge. Dogpack was right
- Those were not random subscribers (he was right but just didn't have the right context)
- Feastables is still bad for you. Mrbeast should stop acting like it's "the healthier alternative"
- Jimmy did not commit w@rcrimes but sleepdeprivation was genuinely something they did to Jake
-There's videos of Mrbeast with a l0li pic next to him in his house with Chris, meaning HE DID know about Chris
Your entire debunk argument sounds like a really bad cheaply paid lawyer
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@@norhe. Nope... I simply had a very rough childhood that caused a lot of trauma that I had to understand and deal with, as well as the habits I had to learn on a young age to get by. I look at why people do the things they do since I was young and why they say the things they say and not just what they say.
0 likesYou don't have to go to school to learn psychology if you pay attention in life or get forced to on a young age, you only have to go to school to specialize in psychology.
Most people that understand psychology only do so from experience, just being booksmart doesn't help in this field.
@@MunkeyKung You're a psychology major aren't you
0 likes@@norhe. You realize the thing you're asking me to teach you is psychology, right..? Pointing out nuanced patterns isn't easy, especially not if the person you explain them to can't see them.
0 likes@@norhe. Nobody said anything about not remembering.
0 likesI remember quite fine, it's just pointless to explain it to people who don't recognize it themselves... It requires to carefully choose words, showing references, fighting word-nitpickers and basically just make a whole youtube video, which I do not have time or energy for, nor would I get paid for it yet it would cost me... And you'll still always have people who disagree regardless.
Like I said, just wait for the future.
@@MunkeyKung "-Soggy is shady because of something I cant explain or remember? Anyways just wait till someone else tells you" that is how you sound.
0 likes@@norhe. How would those be the patterns..?
0 likesI don't have the language to properly explain it, else I would...
Soggy is shady, there are plenty of hints to that.
Watch it again I'd say, maybe you pick up on them.
Else just wait till someone makes a reaction video and points it out for you step by step.
I'm not putting in the hours to find the words and the receipts to explain it to you, sorry, I'm not getting paid for any of this.
@MunkeyKung And also if the "advanced" patterns are soggy exposing someone exposing beast, then you should realise how often people throw false accusations and another person disproving them 😭
0 likes@@norhe. I already stated that the video was solely there to discredit dogpack. He wants to paint him of as untrustworthy, chaotic and petty, all so his words lose meaning to the public since most don't understand nuance. Which would let MrBeast of the hook from all the accusations that came from Dogpack, no matter how false or true they are.
0 likesBad man can't say good thing, right?
Lets just wait and see what the future brings...
You'll see this Soggy person isn't all that trustworthy.
@@MunkeyKung How was the video not about "exposing" dog packs lies?
0 likesThis sounds like it was made by dogpack. He did say one lottery was true and completely obliterated the rest of your bullshit. Watch the video you literal fetus
0 likes@@norhe. Nor hearing.
1 likePerhaps I recognize patterns you do not, considered that option?
We'll just wait and see what the future brings, yes?
@MunkeyKung Yeah turning on the volume helps with comprehension! 👍
0 likesWhataboutism.
5 likes-Illegal lotteries: soggy cereal said dogpack was right?
-CGI was used: It was used but not nearly at the level dogpack was claiming not to mention dogpack lying about a bunch of cases.
-Darcy Oake: I dont know much abotu this one but him having an actor in his video does not mean that he was hired or that his videos are scripted.
-The raft challenge: Soggy cereal admitted he was right but dogpack did imply something quite different. Dogpack was saying they had a "Production Yacht" and didnt mention the storm putting them in danger.
-Those were not random subscribers: they were??
-Feastables is still bad for you: It is the healthier alternative?? Dogpack was clearly in bad faith when he was talking about this.
-Jimmy did not commit warcrimes: That is messed up but he could also leave at any point?
-Theres a video of Mrbeast: I cant say much about that I personally think he knew about it but he could also have thought it was just some weird edgy dark humor.
I think youre missing the point of the video. Soggy cereal said dogpack was right about a few things but the whole point of the video was about the misinformation/bad faith dogpack had while making it.
@@norhe. That would be nice, but that is not what I'm seeing.
2 likes@@MunkeyKung The point is to correct dogpacks bad research and/or lies 🤦♂
5 likes@@thefastrightptg5048 I watched the entire video and I don't trust this dude.
4 likesAnd I can promise you that my brain can comprehend more than you know.
But tell me, what is the point other than trying to make dogpack look like his word can't be trusted?
He is the 1 dollar detective from his description.
4 likeseither you didnt watch the video at all or you lack the comprehension to understand the point
8 likesI love your content cop opening 😂
0 likesTurkey Tom Finna eat goood lmao
2 likesI mean there are still doggy things from the Beast Company, like Team Sea wich Coca Cola is involved, or make Buildings look more Run down and all this Crypto Stuff like brought forward by Coffezilla, Misleading Advertisement Time and that Lawsuit apparently. But it‘s good to see that
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Coffezillas investigation isnt complete? What is the problem with Coca Cola being involved in team seas? And making buildings look more run down is bad depending on who you ask.
2 likes0:36 sounds like he got paid off lmao
2 likesi have to say it's kind of a brain dead take to imply that you can commit war crimes against someone if you pay them
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It wasnt warcrimes? He could leave at any time?
1 likehawt dawmn
1 likePrime cp... This sounds bad
2 likesI was just thinking how everything Dogpack did was horrible in relation to this, as the saying goes, “When you strike at a king, you must kill him.”. You need to only include the perfect stuff, you can't include any stuff that can be used to discredit you and you should distance yourself personally from the evidence as well.
2 likesIt was wrong how his channel was called Dogpack404 (unrecognisable, not rememberable, personal name) instead of a proper channel that would be laser focused on just this drama. It was wrong that his thumbnails and titles were extremely generic and it led to me personally missing when new videos were uploaded because I thought they were the old ones. Then there is his weird rant at the camera at the start of the video.
Like Mr. Beast has supposedly faked stuff, he has been neglegent with various operations but to showcase that you need to bring proper receipts.
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0 likesHello...
1 like7:06 omg luke thenotable
2 likesif you think about it you can ask Lazerbeam about things from the videos he's in. because he would know everything about the videos he's in
0 likesContent cop intro brought me back holy
1 likeNoooo not you too soggy cereal now in like a year or two there’s gonna be a I worked for soggy cereal he’s an innocent 😭
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@@norhe. a small joke from more pegasus
0 likes?
0 likesI think in 4 months the tables will turn on you, I might be wrong, but this is just my prediction
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Prediction on what lmfao? Your gut feeling?
1 likeI love me a skinny white man with that content cop music
0 likesWho came from Dalan zituks sorry I know I spelt it wrong
0 likesAren't you from Belgium?
1 likecant wait for the "the truth about Mrbeast, Dogpack404 and Soggy Cereal" video by "moist sock cupcakes"
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@thefastrightptg5048 he had a reason tf?
0 likessome random ahh channel bout to pop off by making a video about this for no reason
0 likesI won't watch this video; in my mind MrBeast did questionable things, and Dogpack was hyperbolic. I can't waste my time on something I don't care about.
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i dont think just being hyperbolic would allow someone to slander a random employee
0 likes@@genericname6464 :(
0 likes@@Tortoisetealover don´t care :/
0 likesknow i just watched the video dogpack straight up lied
3 likes14:09 CORNER HIT
2 likesthis video needs to be shown to more people to show the misinformation dogpack has spread
3 likesIt started with ava. And now ending with jimmy and dawson.
1 likeAs a very Gullible Person. I feel bamboozeled, disappointed and so on
1 likeMr Beast said it himself that all he studied for in his life, was to know how to become "youtube fame". the exposings and i believe even this video here are all his doing.
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Youre on to absolutely nothing 🔥
0 likes1:01:51 hey don’t talk trash about my state we have fun things like …. Oh wait yeah ur kinda right
0 likesSoggy Cereal? more like soggy pants....... please pin?
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Why? Its isnt related to the topic, its not funny it doesnt even make sense. This video is a big deal why would anyone pin your dumbass comment
4 likesMist are beets is finnish...
1 likeImagine if someone exposes soggy cereal in 2 months from now 💀
4 likes"HE'S DONE. IT'S OVERRR."
1 likelmao did mrbeast pay you for this video
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He commented this 20 seconds in
0 likesWhat does DogPack's fart smell like?
3 likesmy brother in christ watch the video
7 likesMIST OR BEAST WAS IN BLOOD BORNE ??????
1 like"We're saved"
2 likes"Oh, I wouldnt say saved, I'd say, under new management."
Yeah, basically Dogpack.
So they're both evil
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@@d0ct0rz3d4 it's not abt if he's genuine or not. It's abt if he is helping ppl or not. It's abt the ppl not the person who's helping.
0 likesIt's really easy to act morally correct behind the keyboard on comment and brother trust me, you me wouldn't be doing what Jimmy is doing if we were in his position. We'd just dip with all the millions
@@tanvirsourav83 If he has to show himself doing these good deeds he's definitely not genuine about it.
1 like@@matt38148 it took him almost 2 years and the expose video to go viral for him to pay for the eye surgeries
0 likes@@d0ct0rz3d4so that he can make more money out of the charity and help more ppl? How else would he go from giving a random homeless man 10k to building 100 homes to ppl in need in Africa
3 likes@@matt38148He’s still not a good person and he’s not genuine when he does it. I don’t even like dogpack but it’s clear MrBeast is also run by a pretty shady company
1 like@@matt38148 You actually believe he's genuine about helping those people? He does it just to make himself look good, why else would he record himself doing those things?
4 likesMr beast gives people money and life changing/saving sugeries. How is he evil. Hes done more than dogpack and more than you.
3 likesregardless of what people will end up believing you did an amazing job man, all the info you got, all the research, and the way you did it is seriously remarkable, not to mention you did it in an unbiased way. Great job man, you should be proud
2 likesWhy didn't you discuss Jimmy exploiting free (sometimes child) labor? (giving a chance to enroll in a lottery if you restock a shelf with Feastables)
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@@randomstuffprod. pretty sure there is a segment in this video
0 likes@@tanvirsourav83 lmao
0 likes@@Tortoisetealover when? Perhaps I didn't catch it, would love a timestamp
0 likes@@Tortoisetealover yeah sorry, as if DogPack didn't got into nerves enough that now we also have to deal with the followers of him
0 likes@@tanvirsourav83 dude chill
3 likesNot Lunchly but Feastable and if U call that child labour, buddy U the worst sheep in the heard.
2 likesHave a mind for yourself ffs
he did
3 likesGot to "Warcrimes" section and this guy wastes 5 solid minutes trying to prove what is and isn't a joke, completely glancing over the fact that keeping a person in 24/7 light destroying their circadian rhythm is brutal no matter was the warcrime remark joke or not. No point watching any further.
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@@Paladont what are you talking about? if there are facts that disprove the accusation that the guy was sleep deprived, why they aren't in this video in the section that "deconstructs" this case? Instead we have in deep analysis of what was and wasn't a joke - which is just moronic. Also the fact that Soggy Cereal has to deviate and talk about real wars clearly states he has no facts, and tries to play with emotions instead.
0 likes@kkrup5395 it's so crazy because your second response is just confirmation that you still believe the lie but want to hide behind the idea that it's a joke
0 likes@kkrup5395 even if he was a prisoners of war, it did not come anywhere close to the level of sleep deprivation outlined by the genva convention. You doubled down on your lie
1 like@@Paladont lied about what? That Mr.Beast committed a warcrime? Yes, if you want to be technical 🤓we can't call that a warcrime since the guy wasn't actual prisoner of war. But that's it, the rest of the story weren't negated in any way. The guy couldn't physically sleep in conditions that Mr.Beast's team created, and they didn't do anything about it because the production quality is more important than a person's health. What "warcrime joke" has to do with anything? You guys are doing "actually, the raccoon wasn't a paid actor" type argument again.
0 likesHe got paid 10 thousand a day. It was a challenge. He could leave at anytime. Do you think he should just get 100k easy, without having some difference in his surroundings. He had a choice its not a war crime. They talked avout in this video to highlight dogpack constant malicious framing at ever turn without any nuance. You're an idiot.
2 likes"Yeah they lied about it and millions of people thought it was a warcrime...but leaving the lights on is really bad so you should have just shut up about it."
3 likesWhat the actual fuck is Earth
1 likeI guess soggy was the 1,000,000$ lawyer...
0 likes10:53 him Mario sound mp.4
0 likesBlud is not idubbbz
0 likeshello soggy cereal how do i get hair like yours?
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Barber
0 likesSoggy needs to response to this
0 likesPaid psyop video for sure. Lol it's so obvious this is paid damage control.
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@@norhe. Damn I've seen u in like 4 comments please take soggy cereals meat outta your mouth
0 likesWatch the video damn
0 likesfr now... at this point i dont know who to balive like every thing sound so real its confusing and really annoying.
0 likesI fully believed him... D:
1 likeWhy the fuck do you have a recording of a guy being fired? Why does such a recording even exist?
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Contingency
3 likesCompanies record termination meetings or calls or whatever to create a clear and legal record of the conversation, protecting both the organization and the employee by ensuring transparency, compliance with policies, and protection against disputes
5 likesYou criticise him for sharing an unconsentual recording, yet you do the same to Dawson.
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Youre an dumb. The issue is Dogpack manipulated a member of the public, not in the public youtube space, to say certain things that he, Dogpack manipulated his answers to fit an anti beast agenda that the member of the public was not aware of or cosigned. Thus fucked up his life quite a bit. Soggy just plays what happened to a guy who been lying about lots stuff and getting views on youtube.
3 likesNot even true. Dogpack knew his termination was recorded
4 likesEye for an Eye
1 likeali koca was right
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@@activetutorialHe was. He called Dogpack a shitdigger who does it for clout, which was the truth
6 likesNo.
3 likes23:55 LMAO what a target
0 likesBut if so much of Dog packs stuff is a lie then why did mr beast not comment on it ? And also they gain nothing from lying
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@ your right
0 likes@@purple-69- we all watched the video even though it was difficult to watch.
0 likes@@blockparrydodge6500 That is not the case though, I think dog pack is being defamed.
0 likes"Gain nothing from lying"
1 likeSoggy literally Explained that part
You clearly did not watch video
there was literally internal investigation happening that
0 likesProhibited him from talking about the situation. That's also why dog pack got court notice or whatever they are called
@ yea kinda true, dogpack overeagerated out of his ( understandable) hate for mr breast
3 likeshave you considered that they're both just bad people, this isn't politics you don't have to pick red or blue
3 likesYes because this video is orchestrated by Jimmy. There's still the entire cover up and so on. There's no way this is an independent journalist
3 likesWhat even is 2024 anymore. Literally s…o much drama, political upheaval, and pdfs getting exposed. This year is just where it all goes down!
1 likeSo in summary, a person trying to expose a scumbag is willing to be a scumbag as long as enough people are naive enough to believe em.
4 likesSuch is the world we live in.
Did someone say soggyzilla?
0 likeswhat did dogpack404 even do?
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@@xeralt2914 thats a shame
0 likesServed raw meat to Gordon Ramsay
3 likesEating cereal while watching this in salute to you 🫡
2 likesHigeHiro was actually a pretty good show and I loved it
3 likesNow that is how u content cop LOL
1 likeCmon Dogpack 🤦♂️
1 likeConclusion:
0 likesMr. beast is still not off the hook, there are several questions. But this video does bring in the question what I found of Dogpack..
The question marks I have on some of the things he claimed.
The thing is... I always questioned Mr. Beast content and Dogpack "happened" to have the right answers if not abit extreme and illogical, but he backed it up with decent editing and no way in hell am I gonna do days of research finding out the truth.
But with this video and CoffeeZilla's video and the recent things Mr. Beast is doing...
Yea something ain't right within that company and Jimmy himself.
As for Dogpack? Yea something never lined up perfectly. It was how it went from: "okay this is believable and this is odd." To "Isn't this abit outlandish?"
Wich was his second video, but after that I was like: ""I am done with this stuff now. I am going to wait for information from other sources till I know."
And even this video is just making me go: "So dogpack lies and we got evidence and we have possible AI in the mix but now...? No side really can produce perfect evidence."
Because now the pot is just: "What is true lies?"
Once there is too much "deceit" involved. It starts going with... what is real anymore? You start getting skeptical of what's right or wrong. What parts of Dogpack are lied? But what parts of Mr. Beast was being covered up and lied about too?
So I'll just wait here till I know more of the whole thing and the lawsuits come to bear.
I may not like Mr.Beast but something felt off on Dogpack's videos too... but now I can put my finger on it.
Eitherway, stay skeptical people and find the truth. I am not saying Soggy didn't do their job. I am just saying wait for every bit you can find. And if you don't want to.. wait for someone else to do it.
Of course they're gonna bring up philanthropy as if it doesn't come from the suffering of others. Very great interviews with actual scum.
0 likesFunny, how Mr Beast quickly deleted the comment under this video
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@@QT_cul understood, thank you have a good day
0 likesI found his Comment in DingoBroLug video "MrBeast Is Innocent"
0 likes@@QT_cul Why would he hire Soggy to expose Dogpack and himself too.
0 likes@@QT_cul So, he asks Soggy Cereal to prove a few allegations and recommend Coffeezilla's video investigating his crypto scam, and also calling out Lunchly (including his collab with KSI and Logan Paul).
1 likeThis assumption that 'Soggy is working with MrBeast' makes no sense at all.
@@QT_culwhy would he plan this video with someone he also doesn’t think their in the right. That makes no sense
1 likehe deleted it because it appears as if soggy cereal and mrbeast planned the video together which is one sided journalism and wouldnt make the video authentic.
10 likes@makiodrawzz I don't know why, but he did.
1 likewait why tho
0 likesThe main thing that caught my eye while watching your video is how quick you is to brush off jake's situation, while the war crime claim was bogus(but frankly I was surprised anyone took it seriously), you also tried to imply that the fact jake weddle was payed and "wasn't a detainee" made it...moral?
5 likesThe fact Jake was payed is specifically why the argument why "he could leave anytime" doesn't hold any water, its well known that humans will push themselves to the limits, even do immoral actions if desperate for money, in Jake's case he pushed himself to the point of borderline PTSD, and frankly who wouldn't? would anyone not push themselves to the point of trauma if offered so much money? what Jake went through is similar to coercion, and its all on mrbeast and his crew for having inhumane conditions there.
People keep blaming Jake, saying he "made money" or "could leave anytime", but if I hypothetically could give you enough money to buy a mortgage, but you had to cut your arm for it, would that be ok or moral for me to do? of course not, so I don't get why people unironically follow the same train of logic in the weddle situation.
Actual reality tv shows are heavily moderated for this very reason, because without moderation people would unironically kill themselves for the cash prize, and the fact mrbeast had no moderation is the thing that was unethical and immoral, and I am tired of people downplaying it as anything else but a insanely inhumane and negligent act.
ive rewatched the 2nd dogpack video and now the entire war crimes thing you pointed out is a huge false narrative, the literal next line jake says is "they don't even do that to prisoners" after the war crime comment, its not him saying "they did war crimes on me!!!" its to put it into perspective just how messed up what they did is, that not even war criminals and terrorists are treated as badly as him.
alongside this, the whole defense you made for jimmy's delaware fiasco is downright disgusting and makes it very hard to think of his video as unbiased due to it, his defense was basically "oh but jimmy was a but 19 year old boy who did a immature oopsie :c, besides delaware is already fired so who cares", which is absolutely disgusting, soggy...this is a situation of mrbeast hiring a FUCKING P3DOPHILE to work for his COMPANY WHICH HAS A CHILD AUDIENCE, the fact you even had the guts to defend this either shows bias or the fact you geniunely thinks p3dophilia is not a big deal, either way not a good look.
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Yeah I agree, dogpack has made some mistakes by not researching somethings but none of the points in this vid make sense to me
1 likeTermination records are a thing? It's for transparency.
0 likesAswell How did you get those recordings? Like the stuff about dogpack crying and begging for his job is really weird. For starters why did someone recorded that? And how did you got the record? Someone would had given it to him.
1 likeSecondly you also clearly implied Coffeezilla is a slanderous liar for criticizing him being a crypto guy despite beast and coffee working together before.
And last. I feel that a lot of the arguments for the lotteries and stuff like that where really weird. Like "oh well everyone does this so it doesn't matter" which... No it doesn't work like that. Anyways this is just my opinion thought what do you think?
34:50
0 likesW hoodie technoblade hoodie
1 like18:30 how did the guy on the phone know who Soggy was and seem prepared to speak with him?
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He might of not known who soggy was and its just easier to pretend or an email got sent around at beast that soggy was coming
0 likesHow would dog pack know all this stuff despite only being an employee for a short amount of time that’s what I found suspicious about all of this even in the beginning
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yeah exactly
1 likeSoggy is 2 steps ahead
1 likeas soon as I saw the dogpack video, I knew you were gonna make a video about it, somehow you always provide the best point of view lol
1 like39:52 vro thats literally ai generated 💔💔
4 likesJimmy... come on Jimmy
0 likesThe worst part`? Its gonna be impossible to trust any commentary youtubers now, including you, if its so easy to hide and still have everyone believe it means no youtube video will ever be trust worthy.
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Doing research is not impossible? Just be a little critical about the sources? Just cause someone sounds confident doesn't mean what they are telling is true, people gotta learn that. Critical thinking.
0 likesI was wondering where the whole Dogpack thing ended up
0 likesI'm not gonna lie, I called bullshit instantly
0 likesdogpack's content cop? more like dogshit slop
1 like1:20:24 Devastating
1 likePegasus next video: "DOGPACK 404 JUST RUINED HIS CAREER GRAND FINALE"
1 likedude most the stuff you say here literally isnt fair i mean for example pointing out the fact he corrected himself with the warcrime joke thing could totally just be him correcting himself it doesnt add anything
2 likesthanks for slopping by
0 likesi hate how some people point out that dogpack lied about stuff, and then use that as an excuse to paint mr beast as a saint. dogpack is not entirely correct, and neither is the beast
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@@Tortoisetealover all the evidance is either made by mr beast team or was "Fixed" after the drama in a damage controll move mr beast didn't pay for curing people blindness until after being exposed.
2 likes@@Ahmad-z3o3z Again not everything is malicious it is very possible Soggy made a mistake, but it doesn't take away from all the good evidence he has and the Mr. Beast comment could have just been him seeing the video and deciding to comment
1 likeLied about what jimmy did run an illegal lottery 1:24:20 lmao
2 likesBeside Saggy did lie youtube change its UI multiple times and the UI 3 mounths ago was identical to Dogpack404 17:26 . Mr beast most likely sponsored this video scince he did comment out of all the drama he decided to comment on this very video in a now deleted comment😂😂
@@arielperez3613 he literality said that mr beast isn't off the hook
0 likes@@arielperez3613 yes
0 likes@@captainzee55The point is that MrBeast isn’t a good person either. Even soggy said in the video or did you conveniently skip that section?
2 likesDogpack literally lied about everything 🤡
3 likesI am so fucking tired of this. Every month is just a new 'seemingly good person is actually a lying, manipulative POS!' Not saying your video was bad or anything, I just want a good person that is good for the sake of it for once.
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Just check sources?
0 likesYou are the only commentary ytuber I know who actually puts comedic efforts into the videos.
4 likesI don't trust this guy, glazing mrbeast way too hard, gives no evidence, no source for the firing audio. You're not better than him lil bro
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Mr British cigarettes maybe try watching the full video before commenting shet. He did everything you are saying he didn't.
0 likes@@QT_cul he debunked the lottery scams
1 like@@captainzee55 passive-aggressive much?? Even if Dogpack is an asshole and a liar, mr beast is literally targeting children with his lottery scams.
2 likesHe didn't Glaze mr beast buddy
2 likesGet off that dogpack cuck
Why does this guy look like the slightly enhanced version of dog pack
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Bro bought the better bundle 💀
0 likesthey are both bad lets leave it at that
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that was kinda the point i think
0 likeslol did you use runescape music on this vid?
0 likesthe Ian we wanted, vs the Ian we get
1 likei wont say dog pack manipulated those 2, both of them are shit
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@@socksbenjelloun5196 she seems sketchy as fck to say the least from day 1 of this drama
0 likesi don't know i think rosanna has good intent
1 like59:37 - 59:48 ahh that was hilarious.
0 likesWere the chat logs were he was supposedly taking with Chris about inappropriate things is it just him making edgy jokes and didn't realize what Chris was doing(which i think is true) or was he actually talking with Chris and didn't relize what was doing or did it anyway (i don't think he did it on purpose or at all)
1 likeThank god i held faith in mr beast
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did you watch the video lil bro 😭🙏
0 likes42:53
0 likesThe video is abour curing the blind. Ha!! Checkmate
I'm so happy you made this video. Ever since the first dog pack video, I was infuriated by how bad faith every single argument was. Going in and tearing up every point he made was a great strategy. You've left the guy with no legs to stand on and his credibility ruined. Now at this point it's just about getting the truth out there.
2 likesKeep making great content my guy!
This has to be MrCease's biggest DRider and Glazer. keep it up, hope you get that collab soon 👌
2 likesEdit: edited due to grammar nazi
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@@norhe. i did mofo... anyway who dafuq cares DP got exposed, atleast he exposed who MrCease actually is...
0 likesWatch the video. And "glacier" 😭
0 likesWanneer ge VISO tegenkomt op u homepage :p congrats bro
0 likesMrBeast's true $1,000,000 Lawyer
2 likesMrBeast is still evil person.
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@@ThePrinceOfLego i know, just saying
0 likesyes and he states that
1 likeWe need @AugustTheDuck
1 like1:13:26 exactly my thoughts when i first heard Jake Weddle complain 😅 some people just approach challenges differently, Jake just isn't meant for that type of thing
1 likeI did not really believe dogpack that much for some of the reasons said on the video and the stuff that was just false. I believed some of the others to be true. But that's where I was wrong.
5 likesThis video isn't only debunking dogpack to me, it also shows the most diabolical accusations can be foiled and erased with a simple google search or a bit of looking yourself and you really should be doing that instead of jumping to conclusions or believing everything said.
Mostly everybody (myself to an extent included) believed this random person only for some of the claims said to be as equivalent to somebody saying "Word of mouth" or evidence that was hiding the true picture.
I feel stupid for not looking into it more, but i wont go on tht for too long.
Main point was i had my suspicions of dogpack already. and this video has given me peace of mind and me feeling stupid because on one hand, i had the right to be suspicious of dog pack. on the other hand, i believed dogpack to a degree myself.
But im more happy that some of the things he has gotten wrong are coming out more.
Thank you for making this video.
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@@vardaanpahariya It happens. Don't beat yourself too much over it.
0 likestrue bro
1 likei kinda feel guilty for believing him
i don't even know what got to me, i even started disliking everyone associated to mrbeast.
crazy how my brain can be manipulated to such a high extent so easily.
Soggy calls the dude Chris Tyson "she". All other opinions proven false by association.
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@@LongGone2 um no I'm just not delusional and refuse to let you make mental illness normal. So yeah soggy can make good points but chris Tyson will forever be a man with mental illness.
0 likes@@Dloopgroop Its less me being a "crybaby" and more over me be concerned you ignore anything that doesn't match a whiff of your wavelength instead of being open-minded.
0 likes@@LongGone2 🤣 it's not that serious crybaby jeez. I watched the video it was fine.
0 likes@@purple-69- 0k gr00m3r
0 likes@@Dloopgroop In other words, you are ignoring proof because they said something that does not meet your preferences. Not even going to entertain this one.
0 likes@@purple-69- are you having a stroke?
0 likesBro is clearly crying behind the sreen@@Dloopgroop
0 likes@@ineophobe if YouTube didn't auto delete my replies ON MY OWN THREAD it would be nice to dunk this.
0 likes@@ineophobe 🤣 the fact you think those 2 things are equivalent speaks volumes. One is real (race) the other isn't. Ta da
0 likes@@ineophobe 🤣 the idea you think those 2 things: race which is in reality and tr4ns nonsense are equivalent is hilarious. I don't reinforce the guy screaming on the street the toaster is talking to him either.
0 likes@@LongGone2 I also discount Alex Jones opinions on things when he says the toaster is talking to him. So soggy isn't special here.
0 likes@ineophobe because he's a dude. Race is a phenomenon experienced in reality while your mental illness shouldn't be laundered into normalcy through subtle placation. His identity aka mental illness while ironically stereotypical with his actions is as legitimate as a guy thinking the toaster is talking to him. I don't need to acknowledge either delusion.
0 likes@@LongGone2 🤣 actually? No it's a good video and most of his points are knockout blows.
1 likeBut then again he's reinforcing the transgenderism nonsense so it's 50 50.
this is such a dumb thing to care about, no one's calling edp the n word for what he did so why go after kris for her identity instead of the disgusting stuff she's done
3 likesAre you ignoring most points made in the video because he went out of his way to call somebody else a different pronoun then "he"?
2 likesDid mrbeast delete his comment????
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@@CharanRocks yeah he deleted it I saw it as well. He said in an interview with Chug logic that Mr beast paid Soggy
0 likes@@Ahmad-z3o3zbut then he deleted it I’m pretty sure I can’t find it
1 like@@soldiergaming3523 maybe I ignored the fact that Soggy has flown half way across the planet met with CURRENT mr beast emploies who talked trash about dogpack had access to behind the scenes insider information and all he did with it is prove what mr beast did AFTER being exposed we call that damage control in order to save his brand like curing blindness video.
0 likes@@Ahmad-z3o3zthat doesn’t necessarily mean it is a sponsorship. This is one of the only popular videos defending him, yet soggy cereal still showed some claims were true. He likely made this because dogpack direct messages him at first.
0 likes@@CharanRocks Mr beast commented on this very video he does that in every colab/sponsorship
0 likes@@QT_cul no he didn't
0 likes@@socksbenjelloun5196 Mrbeast payed for his travel expenses seems like propaganda to me
0 likes@@Ahmad-z3o3zhow is the video sponsored
0 likessponsored video
3 likes27:16 Dutch?
0 likeswhat is going on at this point bro😭😭😭😭
1 liketldr pls?
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Mr beast guilty of most some disproven
1 likeCrayons
0 likesWith the whole "faking challenges" thing. Mr Beast should've just made it clear in the videos what changes were made and why. I.e. leaving the boat for safety. I don't think anyone would've complained about it. Leaving it more hidden in interviews etc can come off as hiding or covering it up (even if he wasn't). Would've saved a lot of trouble
1 likeI just wanted to say, I’m very 5hat😇
1 likeWish I could get my time back that I wasted watching dogpack404’s slop, but I had a funny feeling the whole time, felt like he was just desperate and pulling at strings so I didn’t take any of it seriously. Nice to see that I made the right call.
2 likesB r u h . This describes the situation pretty well.
1 likeThat intro 😂 peak satire
1 likeSoggy cereal being a life safer frfr
4 likesThis is deadass death note at this point
4 likesDogpack=Light Yagame
Soggy Cereal=L
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You stink bro, change your underwear deadass
0 likesSo um basically he isn't a fraud 💀 wow shocker i totally didn't know
2 likesso your way of “exposing” someone is saying “these claims sound so stupid, sounds like a movie plot”, then ask people softball questions like “did this hurt you mentally” when that has nothing to do with the legitimacy of what was said. nice. single party consent recordings are pretty much the basis of undercover journalism, people generally talk more honestly when they don’t suspect they’re being recorded. so the guy, who has suffered from this story being released, doesn’t sue him for slander (since his video did cause him monetary damages, he would probably have grounds to do so) but instead he goes on an interview to just say it was “gossip”. yeah, great journalisming there dude. interviews with people who have a vested interest in saying the accusations are false. so much more credible than the dogpack videos
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sorry i wont respond to retard comments like you
2 likesWatch the video please.
2 likes@@adamelghalmi9771 some people r slow gotta give em time
6 likesbruh did you watch the vid all the way through or are you commenting after watching the first 5 mins
9 likesI remember Mr.Beast commenting on this video, but I guess he deleted it.
0 likesI can smell the Pegasus video coming
1 likethe rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper. good video! imma sub because you're really good
0 likeswhy did MrBeast delete his comment?
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It would’ve looked like MrBeast teamed up with Soggy to make this video
0 likesThat Jake Weddle dude was in my algorythm for like a month from watching these videos and i finally got rid of him, if he's back in my alogorythm from watching this i'll never forgive you, great video though
1 likewatching this while eating soggy cereal
0 likesweak video. finding loopholes from unethical practices doesn't make things any better.
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@@stephenparsons2392 he doesnt defend those ethics he points out the hypocrisy and non sense of some of these claims. MrBeast is only your average big companywith ethical problem but he isnt a monster, and Dogpack is just a hypocrite.
0 likes1:24:10 mistake poor billionare crypto scammer Mr beast
0 likes@@jjen_ I watched the Delaware part, which everyone already knew. I watch the War crimes part which was whatever , and I stopped at illegal lotteries , because he was highlighting the no purchase necessary. Stopped there and made my comment saying we shouldn't defend people with unethical practices
0 likes@@jjen_ mr beast company management is horibble just check their review on job site such as glassdoor
1 likeDid you watch the video or not cause he said multiple times that he condemns some of mrbeasts practices. The video just covers the problem with dogpack404 since it’s affecting people that it shouldn’t
4 likesyet it also doesnt change that some stuff he said was infact right, he has shown a lot of evidence that cannot and has not been disproven, no nitpicking or getting rid of context can change that
2 likesalso doesnt help you clearly got something to do with mrbeast, that you somehow managed to get some of his highest level employees to talk with you.
Welp, can't even watch this for 3 minutes, I can't take this clown seriously for that long.
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Average Twitter user hating on Mrbeast for no reason:
2 likesWhose telling the truth anymore😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
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Me
0 likesSomeone is making "The Truth About MrBeast, Dogpack404, and Soggy Cereal." I can feel it!
2 likessoggy never fails to fill me up with his wet milk
2 likesInterviewing mr beast employee is bias and aint proving anything
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What an insane take. So interviewing anyone from any side instantly makes someone biased? Does that mean interviewing ex-employes also made DogPack biased? Are we supposed to solely talk to people who have nothing to do with the situation at hand?
1 like@@kingkong-gm6pp you sure? i saw it and its pretty average 3.9/5 soooooo yea (its 0.1 lower than average bank jobs (4/5) and way higher than average 9-5 job on the site (2.3/5) and its considered very safe) BTW most of the review are by fired employees or past employees so normally reviews are gonna be very bias.
2 likesWorking with mr beast is a total disaster. Toxic management. Just check their review on glassdoor
1 likethe slop thickens...
2 likes36:08 is his dog ok?
0 likesI thank you for this video this clears up many things however being right in some things doesn’t make him without fault, he still had his friends sign shirts for him, he still lied on the number of wells built, he made buildings bigger with CGI, his best friend who had shadman drawings in the building and gave obvious signs he was a PDF file, he hired locoya hill and kept him, a man who does sexual content and Mr beast still deleted evidence, he needs to respond correctly to this things
2 likesthe times guy explained it all for me but ill still watch the video so you can get views
1 likethanks for exposing dogpack404, soggy cereal. you have my respect
MorePegasus, MoreMegaslop
0 likesRemember..... Innocent until proven guilty. Especially by law when the accusations were that big
2 likesdude, doesn’t matter if it’s a public document, it’s still doxxing: “search for and publish private or identifying information”. doesn’t have to be private
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@@socksbenjelloun5196 that’s still by definition identifying information
0 likesnot his addresss
0 likesBro it's his name relax.
0 likesWatch as MrBeast's former "fans" flock back to him.
2 likes1:01:56 DIESE KOMMENTARSEKTION IST NUN TEIL DER BUNDESREPUBLIK DEUTSCHLAND
1 like10,000 a day for a little mental torture? SIGN ME THE FUCK UP!!!!
1 likehalfway the video, im coinvinced. i fell for Dawson's lies and slander
59:48 SOGGY CEREAL EXPOSED!!! THAT'S A PENCIL!!! THAT'S NOT A CRAYON!!!
1 likeAight, this video has blown my mind.
5 likesMr beast is definitely shady but word of mouth isn't the way to prove it. It's also not a good way to prove innocence which is most of what this video does so honestly both videos are bad for that reason, they rely to heavily on word of mouth.
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Tf you on ab
0 likesdogpack is the personified persona of an incel, damn this dude is miserable.
1 likeits nnn this month and seeing you makign a new video made me lose it. thanks
1 likeThe start of the video startled me I genuinely thought that was idubbz
0 likesthe "he could leave whenever he wanted" is not a good argument
1 likeif I walk up to a homeless guy and ask if I can torture him for 10k/h (he can leave whenever he wants) its still obviously very questionable morally
and the "war crime" part seems like an obvious joke considering its literally impossible for 2 civilians of the same country to perform warcrimes on each other lol
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Hyperbole
0 likesif you asked a homeless guy if they would like to live in a bright room and get sum money for it, pretty sure that aint that bad..
0 likesWhat is ed sheeran doing here as dogpack's manager?
0 likesI really enjoy your content makker. You're one of the few channels that actually do their own research and dont blindly repost and believe slop that other channels already posted for money
0 likesCan't wait for the DogPack404 video exposing Soggy Cereal for putting milk first before the cereal
0 likesImagine if soggy cereal got exposed for something, then the exposer of soggy cereal also gets exposed, ad infinitum, infinite exposing, infinite slop junk content, unlimited drama that never ends
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Man, losing faith in humanity takes many shapes I guessl
0 likesOnce again we needed soggy cereal, the real hero, to save the day.
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@@jonathanjohnson4594 ninja whaaat
0 likesShe crazy man
0 likesDude she literally just smoked her dad as w**d.
0 likesThis isn’t a joke her dad died and she put him into one of her roll and smoked it.
Dog pack and Rosanna are clearly scum. Rosanna’s entire twitter is Mr.beast
0 likesNow we need someone to expose soggy cereal. Check if he's paid by Mr. Beast or whatever
0 likesI still refuse to believe that what he did constituted as an illegal lottery. He was selling a product that included an opportunity for random rewards. Suppose that’s considered as an illegal lottery, In that case, KitKat and many other large companies should also face lawsuits, as they often engage in similar marketing practices of offering reward opportunities with their products. He wasn’t selling the chance to win, he was selling the product. A lottery involves selling the opportunity to win. Naturally, he highlighted the lottery aspect because the prizes were huge, but at the end of the day, he was still selling merchandise and chocolates.
1 likeSo more hearsay.
4 likesThe thing is msot of the info here is just testimonies that contradict the testimony of other people.
We humans are presupposed to believe people that show their face.
As someone who worked at big companies:
You can have a great relationship to your boss and the boss can be a horrible person.
Those are not mutually exclusive statements.
People are usually blind to abuse in the workplace if it isn't happening to them or a close person.
Dogpack was just one factor.
The allegations from other sources, the amazon show drama, etc.
Sidenote:
"He is hurting the philanthropy that helps thousands of people" Nah, bro. A person that uses philanthropy and charity as a shield from criticism is disgusting. If you want to start a charity. Be good or upfront.
Edit:
If the allegations are exaggerated then there would be an immediate lawsuit. So far the only thing that happened is chest pumping. MrBeast's estate hasn't officially sued DogPack404. Meaning that they don't have enough to be sure that MrBeast would win.
The real problem in all of this is you people having the time and willingness to watch these 2h long videos for the sake of drama
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@rohan1864 very true, I will listen to Talk Thua instead 👍
0 likes@@Emmkkaaa can be, but I think it always reflects one's character a bit better if they find entertainment in other things
0 likeswell its entertaining?
1 likeBetter Call Soggy, Soggy-Zilla and Legal-Cereal all in one video?! 🥲🤗
1 likenow we just wait for some guy to make "Soggy Cereal is lying video" and see the loop extend for the rest of eternity
1 likeAn hour and a half?! We’re eating good today
1 likeYou're getting sued for Defamation by dogpack for sure. Allegedly.
0 likesI FUCKING KNEW IT!!!!!!!
2 likesI don’t know what’s happening even more
0 likesPretty sure the "warcrimes" was originally made as a joke, but (quite obviously) is meant to be more of a comparison, an anecdote. Like, "my situation was so bad, someone even compared it to a war crime, even if a joke", or something.
2 likesIt was meant as a comparison (I think), and putting the emphasis on the "warcrime" part of "sleep depriving someone during a challenge is a warcrime" kind of misses the point of "sleep depriving someone during a challenge" ISN'T GOOD OR ETHICAL. Like, it's not LITERALLY a warcrime, but you get the point that it's UNETHICAL, and that's the entire issue with it. It's why everyone is so open to still referencing that it was originally made as a "joke".
This whole discussion of whether or not it's a joke is just semantics, I'm not impressed by it, Soggy Central.
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@@norhe. If everyone knows that, then how is it being "hyperbole" a bad/misleading thing? Like, they never officially (or unofficially) sued MrBeast or made the UN investigate him or whatever. It was obvious it was just meant as a comparison thing - "this thing they did to me was so bad that I felt like they had committed a warcrime", but people like you (no offence) just sort heard "THEY COMITTED WARCRIMES ON ME" instead for some reason.
0 likesEveryone knows that but it's still hyperbole which makes it sorta misleading.
0 likesCan you pick one thumbnail and stick with it please
1 likeLadies and Gentlemen, lets be EXTREMELY CAREFUL. Sure DogPack has done some very awful manipulative tactics and created some lies but that doesnt mean that everything he said is false. Espically now, MrBeast has things like manipulating his philanthropy videos like the hospital which soggy didnt mention, and saying to kids to work for Walmart, or something like that for to clear out his Feastables. And he still is censoring comments as well as editing old videos. And a whole bunch of other things. And with Lunchly not addressing that which is very bad considering that could have killed people which the mold.
0 likesBasically even though Dogpack404 has lied and manipulating about some things which is very disgusting, that doesnt mean MrBeast hasnt been doing the same thing. So he is NOT off the hook should be investigated by FBI for who knows what shady stuff they're doing.
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No it wasn't I am just saying while it clear that DogPack404 has to questioned on what he is lying and manipulating about? I wouldn't say that everything he said it is a lie and therefore Mr.Beast still has some answering that he needs to do for the shady stuff he's been doing like censoring comments, not responded to any allegations nor his team, and all the crypto and gambling promotion.
0 likesThis was one of his points?
0 likesThank thank you so much! I only was able to watch a few clips from the DogPack videos, but I could tell they were fishy, but there were NO Youtubers that I watched talking about it acknowledged it or were being fair to Mr. Beast at all. I almost thought free thinking was over lol I cannot express how great a video like this is to see, I have so much respect for you thank you!
0 likesI think this whole drama is a perfect example of why you shouldn't blindly believe everything you see online, especially on Youtube. People will say anything as along if it means they get more money.
1 likeThis guy is my fav. now
0 likesGreat video. Also, it is a very good reminder to always stay neutral in situations like this!
0 likesIdk how I feel about this low-key. All this doesn't explain why it took Jimmy months to address only some of the allegations, and why he lawyered up.
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@jonathanjohnson4594 Of course you should, but I do feel like Jimmy is hiding something.
2 likesYou should always have a lawyer already when you own a company
2 likesThis video has way too many midroll ads
0 likesthey are both in the thick of it
0 likesBro single-handedly changed the drama lore
2 likesWILD
0 likesAnd also, if you could debunk this so easily, why didn’t Mr. Beast do this? You’re telling me that you managed to do this but Mr. Beast’s entire crew couldn’t put this together? Bit sketchy, Soggy. Bit sketchy
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@@magicdoggy9327I understand your point, but I also understand the fact that you're a pathetic fanboy pretending to be reasonable right now
1 likeThere was no reason for Mrbeast to respond it didn’t matter, he was still getting tons of views
0 likes@@magicdoggy9327 Soggy literally puts it in the video himself that everyone is trying to manipulate you. Jimmy, DogPack, and Soggy all have their own agenda and are alls Gary. Soggy misses DogPack404’s whole point that Jimmy is not the second coming of Jesus Christ and isn’t the best dude in the world. This is the equivalent of the whole Ellen Degeneres situation years ago
0 likes@@randomised7562 he blew Mr Beast whole persona of being a “good person” wide open and then to be followed by Lunchly only made it worse that Jimmy is purely in it for the money.
0 likes@DankMemeStonks, I understand your point, but you’re not MrBeast, and you likely don’t know how busy his schedule can get. Keep in mind that the allegations emerged over four months ago, and Soggy still hasn't covered everything. I doubt Mr. Beast's team wanted to invest more hours than they already did for the company. Anyway, it seems like you’re trying to discredit this video without any valid reason or proof.
5 likes@@DankMemeStonks yeah its because soggy cereal barely debunks any of the claims, especially the jake weddle one where he's like "oh but jake the viking also said this and he's a bad person therefore its false", like no bro, keeping someone in solitary confinement is still fucked up on so many levels. Soggy made this video out of spite towards dogpack, who I'm gonna agree isn't a good person himself and that's fairly obvious, but we shouldn't discredit what dogpack exposed and we have to give him credit for actually shining a massive light onto mr beast's shady side
4 likes@ that literally makes 0 sense. If someone was coming after me and my reputation, time would be made and put aside to address. Your comment is dumb AF
1 likeDid you even watch the video? People on the mrbeast team got mad at mrbeast because he was too busy to defend himself
6 likesAlikoca bout to make a told you so vid
3 likesA good-ish video, although I think it's still a bit rushed, and uses "MrBeast employee says "NUH UH"" a bit too often.
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have you watched the fuking video?????
0 likessummary for those who dont wanna watch: mr beast is shitty, not as shitty as dog pack claims tho, dog lies a lot and is indeed shitty
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@@Kyxnhit’s not just dogpack that’s exposing him look at Coffeezillas video or the news of MrBeast treating his contestants terribly
0 likes@@Kyxnh while dogpack lies, it does not mean some of the stuff mr beast did was not shady
1 like@@Kyxnh to explain that pov, mr beast didnt do the proper background check and init of himself has also done shady things, this can be related to kris and the allegations along with other things, you can ask me questions if you want
1 likeHow is Mr Beast shitty is it because of these claims oh wait they're not even true dog pack is shittier than mr beast
0 likesprobably won't see dogpack addressing the allegations either.
2 likesI don't care, still "I'm the COO of this company if I'm talking don't interrupt me" is cringe af
0 likes:o
0 likesBruh this is literally europa the last battle style propaganda, defending one of the worst person in the world.
0 likes50:54 Dogpack-0
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Mrwhosetheboss-1
2013, the day that i was borned i didnt cry, because i had a feeling something is hugging me tightly.
0 likesThen the docter almost drowned me in the sink, then the mysterious angel appeared to save me. Then i opened my eyes to find my mom crying, and it was colourful. When i was a toddler it started to fade away. As my third eye was open, i saw the angel for the first time and she said someting to me. "Bless your soul, you will be with me soon." Then faded away.
As i said to my cousin: "Look cousin! An angel!" Then she said "Theres nothing there." And i was disappointed to see that i was hallucinating.
Time passed by.. Now im 10, almost 11. Ever since the angel said that to me, my luck increased. And gave me a high score. The colours give me nostalgia ever since i was borned.
I miss you grandma.
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You have memories of your birth 100%
0 likesNOOOOO!!!! Pegasus is gonna eat this up 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
3 likesIs the Delaware guide the same person as Jake the viking
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Not cousin by bad step brother
0 likesNo he his cousin
0 likesA couple people who I went to school with got weirdly interested in the mr beast thing once Ava Tyson's crap came out, and they really liked dogpark and making fun of mr beast.
0 likesLike it was quite obvious they only cared because ava is trans, because they make "diddy" jokes, and jokes about the horrible actions she commited and others had commited like.
and so much other weird hypocritical crap. (ie. taking everything as true even the warcrime thing, and then wishing harm on jimmy).
People hopping on that train is so weird, none of it is in good faith and neither is dogpacks crappy videos in good faith. Lot of bigots championing him.
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@@manachromeYT Oh for sure, it's ashame that such a public figure outted as a predator happened to be trans, because people seem to care more that they're a predator whos trans more then a predator :(
0 likesagreed to be honest. but as a trans person I don't want ava anywhere near our youth.
1 likeSimply put:
1 likeInfluence of money is the source of drama.
Everyone is shooting in the dark with evidence with faith theyve justified their morality and credibility of themselves. But has it really been FULLY checked, from every angle, and every side? No cuz thats simply impossible with the infinite amount of possible implications of sources/exclusion of sources which shifts meaning; no ones looking thru everything.
So who do i trust? Mrbreast, dogpack404, soggy cereal? No one, im just here to watch the drama like in a theatre and be entertained in this twisted world.
I will not trust anyone when money is a factor to someone im discussing something abt with to proove/disprove someone/somethinh, cuz i already well know ppl just want their fair share to live their lives contently or take down someone out of jealosy and spite of their demented success (what is a morally fair pay check for work: a 9-5 or being a yter? No one knows, just like this situation).
This video has the manic bewilderment of HBomberGuy talking about Tommy Tallarico
1 likeThat tone is perfect tbh, and I bet Dogpack's mother is also very proud
I am so tired of this bull shit I don't care anymore haven't cared since everything started
0 likesi don't how anyone ever believed that kid, people need to start doing their own research and not base their opinions off of what uncredible sources say.
1 likeIf it was that simple why doesn’t mrbeast respond :l
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bro did my comment get nuked or what's up with that lmao😭
0 likes@ ^
0 likes@ this is a true, lets hope people notice that.
0 likesMan people really like commenting shet without watching the video
0 likes@@randomised7562 soggy getting so much insider details about Beast corp for being a smaller channel is sus asf. I mean his airrack expose stuff was the reason i subscribed to him but other than that he's just another video essay guy. He definitely got the bag because he did criticise Dogpack in a past video. The Mr Beast comment was enough to know this is hitpiece done to discredit dogpack. Even if Jimmy bounce back from this at least dogpack made aware how pathetic and scummy how he's responding to all of this is.
0 likesEdit: MrBeast even commented on TimeWorks' new video on calling dogpack a liar lmao. Dogpack might have a vendetta against mrbeast but still he's more trustworthy weirdly.
@@ArtVaeirs yea I can see that happening
0 likes@@ps1dethere are 3 sides.
0 likesDogoack soggy and the truth
Maybe this guy is secretly working for him?
1 likeI’m trusting dogpack this just doesn’t seem right
4 likes@@ps1de bro someone finally gets it, soggy cereal has made videos about dogpack in the past and clearly has a bias against him. He doesn't debunk any of the accusations but now we have some sheep chaning sides. Dawson may not be a good person, but he helped expose a lot of what Mr beast did, and hell soggy is definitely being sketchy asf here. I feel like this is a combination of what is a majority of spite, but also him getting paid off by mr beast to make this video
6 likesthis video instead of debunking the allegations, feels like a try at making dogpack lose credibility and picture him nothing more than a disgruntled employee. How the hell would this dude get a damn recording of dawson being fired but Coffeezilla didn't even manage to contact an employee. Plus the comment by the man himself. Mrbeast definitely had something to do with this video coming out. What a fake scumbag, I miss pewdiepie being the most subscribed creator.
6 likesHe left a comment under this video but I don’t see it anymore so he probably deleted it
0 likes👀👀👀
0 likesCan't wait to find "The downfall of Dog pack" videos starting from next week 😭😭😭
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from sunnyv2 and moon
0 likes16:52 missed opportunity for the nickname "DouchBag404"
1 likeI dont think in this day and age I could stare at a DVD screen for 1 hour staright
0 likesI'm tired boss
2 likesTLDW: Dogpack isn’t a good of a person as you think he is and Jimmy isn’t as bad of a person as you think he is
3 likesi haven't been bamboozled by something this much before, and i believed in the tooth fairy when i was like 7.
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same here i even watched a youtuber for a little bit after he got exposed for some nasty things
0 likesDogpack gave joker vibes
2 likeswow im so gullible i hope youre saying the truth 😭😭
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I doubt it man, bro barely debunks shit plus its just him being spiteful against dogpack. Hell bro even changed the video title (Its original one was the REAL truth about MrBeast) because it was so obvious that he's either being paid off by mr beast or is just making this video to discredit dogpack out of spite.
0 likescan't wait for "The Truth About MrBeast & Dogpack404 & Soggy Cereal"
0 likesI don't know what to believe DogPack404, Mr East, Soggy Biscuit victims, ,,victims" exposers, ,,exposers" and every other third preson
0 likesSo what Skeletons do you have in your closet, Soggy?
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@DankMemeStonks "Seems like he's shady" crazy proof mr.dankmemestonks. The video has better proof than "I have a gut feeling"
0 likes@@DankMemeStonks And I won’t be surprised if he deletes the video because Dogpack and Rosanna make counter-videos to this video and he gets backlash from them, just like when he had to delete the ‘slop’ video because of Dogpack.
0 likes@ mmm
0 likes1. Mr Beast commented on this video then deleted it
2. Mr Beast follows Soggy on “X” before this post.
Seems like Soggy also doesn’t have pure intentions and is just as shady AF
A lot less than Mr. packs i say
0 likesWhy did you tell your daddy Beast to delete his comment? Too in the nose or the payment didn't include that?
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He not defending mrbeast
0 likes@@Keeb_the_mofThen his comment would've never been posted or seen by anyone if that was the case
1 likeyeah and why did he change the video title too? Its really suspicious if you ask me lmfao
3 likesYes that was kind of weird…
3 likes@@Keeb_the_mof you are so smart 😊
4 likesYouTube deletes comments if they are to vulgar automatically, so you didn't follow guidelines
0 likesI'd like to say my piece on the debunking mr beast's bars are unhealthier than Hershey's. While i do agree on an ounce basis the mr beast's chocolate bar is healthier but we're talking about the bar not the ounce. there's no 1 or 1.5 ounce mr beast bar only has 2 ounce so it's objectively an unhealthier option than Hershey's. Obviously I'm not taking into consideration whether the bar will be shared or not but thatt doesn't matter as I'm discussing which one is an unhealthier option in general not which one is unhealthier when shared which ironically is still mr beast's bar when splitting both between 2 though 1.5 ounces verses two isn't exactly fair. ok lastly I'd like to discuss how he talks about the topic and portrays it. Firstly i have a question, was the way i determined invalid? I do think to some degree i did bend things in a way to fit my narrative, didn't soggy do the same tho? now my second question is does Soggy's answer seem cherry picked? doesn't it seem like he bended the numbers in a way which would Fit his narrative and possible agenda while ignoring other valid ways to measure because they would threaten his narrative? If you think so that's called logos search it up. anyway yeah don't trust these internet dickheads or even me; I would rant more but I have a mr beast fanfic to write uwu
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@@doorsarecool1713 thanks and the fanfic is going pretty good. jimmy went full p diddy mode on soggy last chapter with the melted feastable bottles Heisenberg cooked up for him
1 likenice, valid points, i agree. 👍 but i'm more worried about how the fanfic has been goin.
0 likesI love copying and pasting my comment for dummys lol
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LMAOO
2 likesat 1:01 if you cut your hair a bit shorter you could look like idubbbz during the content cop era
0 likes"I Watched DogPack404's Videos, He's A Fraud"
3 likesHey , Soggy Cereal i think this might be worth disscussing.
0 likesHe did send a Cease and decist letter , It might have some merret behind him.
Just so you know i am on neither side.
I am at 16:53 so you might disprove it.
He getting mad at Dogpack for doxxing but he giving out his gov name😭😭
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@ oh my bad
1 likeIt's public lmao
1 likeIt is public info if you look anywhere
5 likesI didn't watch mr beast for a long time and this drama was quite funny but now it's even funnier like what is this plot? Tolkien who?
1 likeHahaha hurting philanthropy. Yeah right.. what about that video where the company of they eye surgeries claims having gotten 0 pennies from MrBeast??? Bullshit whatabout excuses
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They got paid, he mentioned such in the video. Are u blind or is this rage bait?
3 likesHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
4 likesthis was covered in the video..
6 likesYou didn’t watch the video…grifting loser
6 likesi just find this situation really confusing
2 likesMrpegasus is the sole winner.
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he profited like 100k off of this
0 likesMr Beast is still sketchy but I don't care because I can finally watch a Mr Beast Challenge again!
1 likeI'm so confused
1 likeWhen the Dog Pack video first came out, I couldn’t get past the first 20 minutes because it felt like a hit piece. It felt so sensationalized. Many of his claims felt like stretches. Something about his demeanor felt so…pitiful. But once Weddle and Rosana Pansino began speaking out, I was much more inclined to give him a chance. I do want to believe Pansino means well. I’ve always felt like she is honest, but impressionable. I think she got duped by Dog Pack. Unfortunately, though, my conclusion is that I’m not sure who to believe at this point, and I’m too busy to keep up.
2 likesI guess this shows how easily manipulated people are.
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fr
0 likesFascist pro capitalist evil billionaire propaganda. Quit acting like mr beast is innocent
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@@Keeb_the_mof fr
0 likes@@CatInBag2763 i believe in abolition of private property and justice for the working class, is that not communist?
0 likes@@CatInBag2763 i believe in abolition of private property, justice for us workers, a dictatorship of thr proleteriat, what more do i need to be a communist?
0 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition You claim you are. I can say that I am the emperor of France, still doesn't mean I am.
2 likeslong live the free market!!!
0 likes@@CatInBag2763 what? Im literally a communist
1 like@@Rogueboss2budgetedition Ok, Mr Authoritarian Right.
0 likesI'm starting to think you're DogPack's alt account tbh.
1 likeHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
0 likeshe never said mrbeast was innocent. He's just disproving the false accusations
5 likesMrbeast haters when Dogpack404 released his video: I was right all along Mrbeast is a fraud
0 likesMrbeast Fans when Soggy released this video: I was right all along, Mrbeast is not a Fraud
The only thing missing in this video is the dogpack comment approving this investigation. Nice work mate.
1 likePeople really switch from hating Mr beast to hating people who come out with stuff to help hate Mr beast. Strange times. I guess people just hate everybody nowadays
2 likes1 hour and a half of yapping
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Ehh just glazing your fraudpack
1 likeBro is on a video website but can't be bothered to watch a video
1 likeHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
3 likesget off youtubr
9 likesDogpack bad, Mr.Beast still also bad
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Pretty much lol
0 likesBut not nearly as bad as Dogpack wanted you to think
0 likesActual Good Journalism
3 likeswhy is this even a topic of discussion anymore, soggy was truly the only good slop content creator
0 likesi just want to go back to 4 months ago when people were inspired by mr beast and supporting his charities.
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Here’s a example: Moist critical is slopp because he doesn’t make the allegations (I still like him though)
0 likesSo like soggy isn’t a slop creator neither is dogpack. Slop is if you react to something so if you’re making the allegations that isn’t but if you react to it; it is. (In my perspective)
0 likesThis video blew up in the time it took me to watch it lmao, very well done and clearly thorough effort.
3 likesDo you support people donating some money to make more money
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Yea lol
0 likesyeah?
0 likesHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
3 likes40 minutes of meatriding a evil capitalist billionaire
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@@ArtVaeirs people did it with dockpack. But why do people didn't do it with this guy
0 likes@@NaLian605No ones watching an hour and a half of this guy's video dude, and many people can already sniff this guy out from a mile away for what he really is
0 likes@@themartianbuggy3171 Oh yeah and the comment deletion. Hiding the allegations. Isn’t that suspicious to you gullible people?
0 likes@ The same applies to every other argument. Ah yes another employee working for mr beast stating that its not cgi. Great 👍. What a great argument. And before you say “well dawson said that its cgi, so?” It freaking looks cgi, have you seen the train? The explosion? Get corridor crew out and tney would explain. And yes bcs since this video came out Mr Beast has come out thanked this creator for “exposing”’him. Isn’t that suspicious that Jimmy is coming out now? And the video take down I was talking about while when he wrote a cease and desist letter. How isn’t that suspicious to you?
0 likes@ I did and could you tell me one including timestamp where this guy actually proves Mr Beast is held accountable other than “nuh uh” arguments. Yall are so gullible
0 likes@@Goji1954_minuszero Just one example? Thats all you got? And you completely ignored the screenshot he posted from an employ saying it was not digitally lifted. And what evidence does Dawson have for saying that it is CGI? He was the one who made the claim, the burden of proof is on him.
0 likesMr Beast wants to take down dogpacks videos now? He's been active in the public for a good part since the controversy began, don't know what you're talking about.
@@Rogueboss2budgetedition he's a 100% paid by Mr beast, and he was allowed to criticize mrbeast at the end
0 likes@themartianbuggy3171 dont you find it a little suspicious how every single damn thing mr beast did was debunked and that it turns out he did nothing wrong and is 100% innocent? Definetly not like this guy is making propaganda!
0 likes@@Goji1954_minuszero did you even watch the video? 🤦🏾♂️
0 likes@@00pium_Mero “Evidence” your “evidence” is basically “nuh uh” 🤦♂️
0 likes@@themartianbuggy3171 He didn’t debunk a thing. The only thing he is saying is basically “nuh uh” to all of them.
0 likesDogpack - “this car shot was cgi” (proceeeds to show a car that looks cgi)
This dude - “the car is not cgi” (nuh uh argument and showing scenes where the car could also be cgi.
Stop believing him, please. And its not sus to you that Mr Beast wanted to take dogpacks video now? Why is mr beast coming out to the public now when thjs video came out and not then? Explain pls
@@Rogueboss2budgeteditionBro, just watch the video. He is disproving the false allegations with evidence
0 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition mister, you're embarrassing yourself, you clearly didn't watch the video. Soggy said many times that mr he will debunking "most", not "all" of the claims. He also said that one of the lotteries was actually illegal, and held him accountable for the crypto scam thing.
1 like@themartianbuggy3171 dont you find it a little suspicious how every single damn thing mr beast did was debunked and that it turns out he did nothing wrong and is 100% innocent? Definetly not like this guy is making propaganda!
0 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition everything you said, was debunked in the video, my guy
0 likes@ Your meatriding him. This creator didn’t show a single evidence to prove them. Only he said is that “Mr beast actually didn’t do illegal lotteries, and this is false” no evidence to back that up
1 like@@Goji1954_minuszero Yes, his argument was "Nuh-uh" but with evidence to back it up to prove it by using google display how DogPack 's depiction of the law was wrong for 2 out of the 3 lottery scams, behind the camera footage that contradicts DogPacks claims, the connections with people DogPack had that he abused causing their distress or online controversy against innocent parties and general contradictions. And you expect people to act like it was just nonsensical dribble.
1 like@@Rogueboss2budgetedition I've personally checked the Discord archives before, it showed MrBeast would send a message every few months and he usually just posts a link to a video he was making or something, he didn't really actively engage with the discord community. Considering he was roommates with Kris at the time, it makes sense why he wasn't active often, why talk to someone on discord if you already live with them? Secondly, a drawing isn't proof he knew about the grooming; it just proves he knew Kris was a degenerate and that's it.
1 like@@Rogueboss2budgetedition watch the video and you will get it. And also there are 3 allegations that are actually correct. So no he is not 100% innocent
2 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition also said by the guy who is currently doing nothing but riding Stalin 70-year-old dead meat💀
3 likes@@Rogueboss2budgeteditionno? He said that the first illegal lottery was illegal. Watch the video before saying that everything was debunked
2 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition also I don’t think MrBeast is a good person, crypto scams, and all that but actively lying and taking clips out of context to ruin a man career is just evil
2 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition said by the one literally defending a known liar lmo😂
2 likes@@NaLian605 remember how there was once a video with a poster of a half naked underaged girl in a mr beast video and he edited it out? Its clear he knew all along.
0 likes@NaLian605 dont you find it a little suspicious how every single damn thing mr beast did was debunked and that it turns out he did nothing wrong and is 100% innocent? Definetly not like this guy is making propaganda!
0 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition where?
2 likes@DebbieMckinney-d3e youre the one meatriding a evil greedy capitalist billionaire who sold unhealthy lunchly to kids
0 likes@@NaLian605and even so, hes still a evil greedy capitalist billionaire who sold unhealthy lunchly to kids
0 likes@@NaLian605he did, it takes like one second to research that mr beast knew that kris was a pedo
0 likes@@NaLian605there are several sources that prove mr beast and kris tyson had a discord server together where they knew about it
0 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition he never defended her. And if you watch the video. Dogpack accusation that mr beast knew was debunked. So there are no evidences that he knew
2 likes@@doorsarecool1713 being against a evil capitalist billionaire who defended kris tyson isnt bias.
0 likes@@doorsarecool1713The only argument this creator made was “nuh uh” to dogpack. Mr beast is still not proven wrong
2 likes@@NaLian605 Mr beast still hired Kris and defended her, despite knowing shes a p3do. He is still not a good person.
0 likes@@Keeb_the_mof Mr beast still hired Kris and defended her, despite knowing shes a p3do. He is still not a good person.
0 likes@@NaLian605 Mr beast still hired Kris and defended her, despite knowing shes a pedo. He is still not a good person.
0 likes@@NaLian605 Mr beast still hired Kris and defended her, despite knowing shes a pedo. He is still not a good person.
0 likes@@Keeb_the_mof Mr beast still hired Kris and defended her, despite knowing shes a pedo. He is still not a good person.
0 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition bro can't make a valid argument and just calls everyone a meatrider
5 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition aren’t you the one meet riding dog pack like is it choo-choo train
3 likes@@NaLian605 says the mr beast meatrider, meatrider of a evil greedy capitalist billionaire.
0 likesbias
5 likesWhat if instead. Hear me out. WATCH THE VIDEO AND STOP MEATRIDING DOGPACK
12 likesHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
12 likeswatch him also be a bad person then the cycle will continue forever 💀
5 likesThere’s actually a whole ass episode of South Park that kinda revolves around how easy it is to report people to the government in the US
2 likesLike i said before, dogpack is ten time's more worst the mr beast, you can't change my mind in this, dogpack has hurt so many people because he is a petty disgruntled employee
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@@Keeb_the_mof no but you clearly are, keep sucking off mr beast kid
0 likes@randomised7562 are you mentally challenged, dude 💀
0 likes@@arielperez3613 lets not forget him defending chris tyson and the him hiring RsOs and no soggy did not debunk it at all, bro just dismissed it without going into detail
1 like@@Keeb_the_mof this is ragebait right? Mr beast literally knew about Chris being a pedophile, in one of his older videos, which I believe was the pizza delivery one there's literally a clip of him staring at a poster of shadman's (A CP artist) art of an underage girl, and its the same picture that Chris praised shadman for creating. Either you're a gullible kid or you're just ragebaiting for attention
1 like@@Rogueboss2budgetedition correct me if I'm wrong, but bc mr.beast is giving out money to ppl, doesnt that make him somewhat of a communist? If I remember correctly communism just means that everyone shares things (like a property for example) and Mrbeast is sharing his money
0 likesThen again, I could be wrong
Whether you think dogpack is worse is irrelevant, the point is that both have done very bad things. Dogpack for lying and MrBeast for doing crypto scams and treated his contestants like trash in beast games
0 likes@@Rogueboss2budgetedition no one is bootlicking or meatrding mr. beast, there are some wrong things he did and we acknowledge it, but it seems you cant acknowledge that dogpack is a liar too
0 likes@@CatInBag2763 how? Im a communist in every way, i dont bootlick billionaires
1 like@@Rogueboss2budgeteditionYou're the fascist.
0 likes@Rogueboss2budgetedition what are you talking about? Beast defended his friend because he didn't know what happened before it came out and again maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment, loser
2 likes@@Keeb_the_mof the fact you bootlick billionares tells me that youre a fascist.
0 likes@@Keeb_the_mof nope. Mr beast supported and defended a groomer(kris) thats far worse than anything dogpack did
2 likeswe will never get rid of this fucking mrbeast damn DRAMA
1 likeCommenting for the algorithm because this needs more views!!!
2 likesMr Beast should just release everyone from there NDAs if he was truly innocent or sue DogPack if he wasnt afraid of discovery. lol
1 likePlot twist:The team interview were Paid actors.
1 likeBro the news yt channels will be eating good bro
2 likesWhere is he from?
0 likesThank you for the information. Good. Video
1 likeCAP
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My boi didn't watch the full video❌
0 likesNo bias, just straight up facts coming from a young man that is more open minded than 99% of the people on this planet.
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@@tristanlwkns yes there is, look at some of soggy's past videos, soggy has been shown to have so much bias against dogpack for a while, plus it really does seem like mr beast is paying soggy off to make this video
0 likes@@randomised7562 There was no bias. Just because Soggy is being critical does not mean that he's bias. Forgot that Dogpack declined to speak to Soggy? One of the only YouTubers brave enough to go against all these manipulative allegations from Dogpack.
0 likesunless you're being sarcastic then no, soggy has a bias against dogpack and its been there for months
1 likeL dogpack404 w soggy cereal
5 likesFirst time I have watched a 1.5 hour video
2 likesDogpack disabled his comments already on YT, what a suprise.
3 likesI literally cannot trust anyone involved in this
3 likesI cant trust soggy i cant trust dogpack and i cant trust mr beast
The second he started saying stuff like "This racoon is a paid actor!" I could tell he was just a bitter lil bitch honestly lmao
2 likesBeast still has some things to own up to tho, don't get me wrong.
i wont believe anything on the internet until i see unedited evidence
0 likesStupid Americans, cancelling everyone out of jealousy
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Does this guy sound American?😂 what a retard
4 likesDont know....why you seem like a jimmy roostersucker...a literal person sucking his rooster. Funny how you got all these Mr trash employees to talk to you....all at once. Actually you arent really disproving anything dogpack said..and in cases you are actually provind what he said.
4 likesYo are definetly payed by Mr Trash.
I can also give you something to suck ok.
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@@Keeb_the_mof i dont usually respect spam but hats off to you my guy
0 likesI just know you're mad because the plan of "cancelling MrBeast" didn't work out 😂😂😂
0 likesHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
7 likesMr trash employees include dog pack too then
1 likeI really enjoyed this video, feels like the good old YouTube!
3 likesOh.. its these people again..
4 likesPass.
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@themartianbuggy3171 Really? Let's see how smart you are then. What is the context of my comment? What exactly (do you think) am I saying
0 likesPls, humor me smart boy ! 😂😂
@@babayega1717 maybe he is laughing at your comment cuz its so dumb that its funny
1 like@@Keeb_the_mof This making you "laugh out loud" ?! Really :D ? Do you have a condition?
0 likesMaybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment lol
5 likesDude the dog pack glazers found the video
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@@Keeb_the_mof nah we just dont glaze a evil billionaire who defended kris tyson
3 likesMost people don't understand lottery/sweepstakes laws. Once he figured it out, he fixed the issues going forward.
1 likeNext: The soggy cereal sutuation is insane
0 likesWe found the $1M lawyer
1 likeThis feels like a wild goose chase except every goose you catch just tells you to go catch another one because you got them confused
6 likesFun Fact: you do not know what to believe anymore, welcome to the internet
2 likesBRO WTF IS GOING ON WITH 2024 😭
0 likesMY BRAIN CANNOT HANDLE THAT MUCH
I don't really watch YouTube
0 likesBut what the f are these names
I know Mr beast
Dog pack ??
Soggy cereal??
Are all the names taken
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all of them are taken
0 likesAn amazing video! I feel honored to be in your bowl of cereal, please absorb my fibers and nutrients
1 likeI don't comment often but great video man!
4 likes🐕pack are liar
1 likeDont care, i want him gone either way
0 likeshow much did he pay you?
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@@mynamejeef7166 get ratioed
0 likesprobably about 100k
0 likes@@Keeb_the_mof not surprised, coming from an anime pfp
2 likesDef a dog pac glazer watch the whole video
8 likesAre you actually dumb
12 likesMorePegasus:The dogpack 404 and MrBeast situation is crazy
0 likesI never betrayed mr beast. I knew I wasn't insane😭🥲🥲
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@@randomised7562 i guess you're right. I miss the old Mr beast yk. Why does everyone change for the worse nowadays?
0 likes@@Stygros doesnt change he did it for the fame and money.
0 likes@@Stygros yes but that makes it worse, and its still bad even if he's not one. Jimmy knew this whole time and didn't even bother to try and get Chris out of a company that appeals specifically to kids. Its what makes Mr beast even more disgusting in my eyes, this guy genuinely has no morals
0 likes@randomised7562 mrbeast is a family friendly youtuber right? So it would affect his career if he exposed Chris. I agree with you on the other stuff tho.
0 likes@@Stygros no bro mr beast is still a horrible person and this video barely debunks anything and is just trying to discredit everything dogpack has said even though majority of it was correct. Mr Beast still defended Chris whilst knowing he was a pedophile, still hired an RsO, still kept Jake Weddle in solitary confinement with sleep deprivation and still participated in crypto schemes. Soggy Cereal made this video out of spite and hell its possible that he got paid to make this video, especially given how mr beast deleted his comment and how soggy changed the video title, along with the beef he's had with dogpack for a while
1 likeHe’s still not a good person and even soggy admits that in the video
2 likes@Thekatbo he helped people yk. Like those things weren't scripted. And no one can make challenges engaging to the audience without using some sort of scripts. So beast is kinda in the good.
4 likesstill a pretty bad person
2 likesAnd what about mrbeast crypto coin scandal and leaked discord messages that he is actively deleting even coffeezzila talked about that and allegedly street racing his friend On January 21, 2018, at around 2:30am, MrBeast had been pulled over by police along with two other drivers on a North Carolina highway after reportedly driving at 122 mph, per the Tarboro Police Department.
2 likesTwo vehicles were racing each other when MrBeast was 19 at the time, was stopped, according to reports. He was arrested and taken into custody, facing charges of speeding in a 70 mph zone, reckless driving, and engaging in a speed competition. He was held on a $100,000 bond. Supposedly he was driving a BMW i8 according to the fans that saw on a mrbeast deleted video.
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The average 19 year old would do the same if given a lambo
0 likes@@PingPongPursuithe literally said he wasn’t knowledgeable enough so you should watch coffeezilla’s video on it. Although he didn’t discuss it, he did tell people that it was an issue, and where you could learn more about it. I honestly prefer people to not talk about topics when they don’t know much about them…
0 likes@@PingPongPursuit But still, he said mr beast should still be held accountab;e
1 like@@Keeb_the_mof He didn't talk about crypto coin scandal
0 likesWatch the til the end he talks about it
3 likesWhich he said he should be held accountable
1 likePeople who came from Dylan Zitkus
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oml i just watched that short bro, nah its so obvious that beast is paying off these creators now lol, there's no way that he just randomly contacts them and asks them if they've seen the video with them suddenly agreeing with him. Also him commenting (now deleted) on this video and soggy changing the title makes it so much more obvious
1 likeFINALLY someone who doesn't immediately jump the "mr. beast is the devil and dogpack is a saint" train
2 likesLove how "All other youtubers" at 25:53 are all MorePegasus :))
0 likesIncoming wave of "I never actually liked dogpack" comments by individuals with 0 ability to think for themselves and come to their own conclusions
1 likeBro is mr beasts "1,000,000 dollar lawyer" from the meme.
1 likeThis is literally europa the last battle style propaganda, trying to defend one of the worst people in the world.
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@@Rogueboss2budgeteditionbecause your meat riding fraudpack404
0 likes@@Keeb_the_mof why should i watch 40 minutes of meatriding a evil capitalist billionaire
1 like@@Robsidianswhy should i watch 40 minutes of meatriding a evil capitalist billionaire
1 like@@Robsidians why should i watch 40 minutes of meatriding a evil capitalist billionaire
1 likeHey, maybe watch the video instead of making a dumb comment
2 likesyou literally didnt watch the video clearly
4 likesHe proved majority of dogpacs
5 likesClaims wrong also saying Mr beast should be held accountable for his actions nigga watch the video
The slop gates have been opened
0 likesWell I guess I have to do research myself.
1 likewow
0 likesFor someone who hates slop content changing your thumbnail around 3 times to make it more clickbaity is kinda wild to me....
0 likesBeast drama retrospectives gonna go hard
1 likeFake as fk
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@@sravanpatri5851 I'm just here bc I want to see people calling each other meatriders and defending their side which is kinda funny to read.
0 likes@@ItzNart To be honest this whole mess is annoying fk the drama bs
0 likes@@sravanpatri5851Fair, that's just the way soggy cereal makes his videos.
0 likesTrue he did over exaggerate stuff and lie about some which is scummy behavior
0 likes@@sravanpatri5851 he never said that Mr beast was innocent he was just pointing out dogpack's lies about Mr beast to push him into cancellation.
0 likes@@NaLian605 I did and found out both Dogpack and Mr beast are both Scumbags Mr beast is Just a bigger one.
0 likesWatch the video first
6 likesCommenting for the algorithm, this video goes crazy
1 likeHonestly I never liked Dogpack, he was just not sympathetic to me, but this is crazy... I kinda expected some lies, but this is next level.
1 likeAlso that Weddle dude always seemed stupid to me... if you voluntarily do something FOR MONEY, and you can literally quit any time you want, it is ON YOU...
All that being said, I don't think I will ever watch mr Beast again, because throughout the entire drama there are a lot of serious accusations that I still believe to be true, and also I don't even enjoy his over edited style which is designed to make kids addicted to the stupid content...
“DogPacksUp” 💀
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Lmaooo nice comment
1 likeIts also possible that mr beast paid you to do this. I mean ye already has a bad image but you can discredit dogpack404. I guess everything now is just for the engagement.
1 likeI was always suspicious of dogpack. He came out of nowhere and made allegations about Mebeast. Sure I semi believed but I knew something like this would happen. Still, I don’t care about MrBeast because he does good things for attention not intentionally
0 likesPegasus is gonna milk the shit out of this one.
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Milking it dry
2 likesI never trusted dogpack. I'm disappointed that so many people thought he was credible or trustworthy
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I feel bad that i believed it
0 likesFINALLYYY. Knew it.
1 likeThose beast shekels must've been too good to refuse
0 likesYoure a billionaire bootlicker who wants to defend a guy who literally hired a pedo(kris tyson) and knew about it
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@@DontkilLkong shh, youre gonna make him more special ☠
0 likes@@DontkilLkong Don't make fun of autistic children that's just mean :(
3 likesBro is an idiot fraudpack404 glazer
7 likes23:52 I love how he says multiple cometary channels commented on it but the only thing that shows up is more Pegasus videos, just shows how much he milked it
0 likesSso what about the racoon ?
0 likesImagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.
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None are good stfu
1 likeHe’s attacking dogpack dumbass
3 likesHe literally says she’s a disgusting degenerate individual and proves dogpack was right on that accusation lol
3 likesDogpack’s been real quiet after this
1 likeI’m so sick of this “situation”
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Mrbeast situation goes crazy
1 likeKris Tyson situation goes crazy
Is this the 1 million dollar lawyer?
1 likeThe tlop shickens
0 likestruth is i just hate mr beast. I am disappointed that when finally some large scale critisism and investigation is happening, it's from a loser like dogpack.
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@@doorsarecool1713 🤝
1 like@@bezka3545 "i dont agree with you, but i can understand AND respect your opinion 😁😁" - me, a person who can think.
0 likes@@grekandrew8995 I think his content is garbage, his personality is annoying, and all the "good" and "charity" he does is just performative nonsense that doesn't change anything on a greater scale. And part of it is just seeing his stupid videos everywhere is annoying, and I know it's petty but I think I can be petty once in a while.
1 likewhy you do you hate him just asking
0 likesI kinda just wanna hate mrbeast pls let me
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LMAOOOO
0 likesBreh
0 likesJesus loves you😊
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Repent and turn to the Satanic Temple ❤🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️😊
0 likesI can't wait for a video exposing Soggy Cereal so that I can watching while eating soggy cereal.
1 likeThe problem with this video is that testimony is terrible evidence. Your sources are just people who are biased in favor of mister beast.
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Before there was any video proofing other s*** like that and fingerprints testimonies was all we had if it's good enough for the legal system it's good enough for me
1 likeThat's kinda hypocritical to say considering DogPack did it too.
1 likeuh huh yeah and the people who have outright stated they dislike mrbeast and got fired from his company are trustworthy for talking shit about him
1 likeBy your logic, jake weddles yapping session in fraudpacks video is terrible evidence. Do u even know what youre saying 🤨
1 likeGarrett was an ex-employee lol how is he biased?
0 likesWho the fuck is he gonna get sources from other than the actual employees involved in the situation? Some random guy on the street?
5 likesYes, he shoudlve called someone from Antarctica or the aborigines who would know better about the company without being biased
6 likesHiring a nonce because you don't do background checks is not just a "mistake". It's negligence to the safety of your employees and the children that make up his audience. Wildly fucking stupid take from you to excuse his negligence as a mistake.
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@@Scrog90 ight g’day bud, that’s no more a criminal negligence btw lol
0 likes@GamerGarmer and we're back full circle to excusing his criminal negligence of not safeguarding staff and public. Think we'll end the convo here. Enjoy your day, pal.
0 likes@@Scrog90 that’s why the employee was fired before anything happened 😂 + I haven’t seen any children go for his staff instead of him lmao, and back then Mr beasts channel wasn’t for kids anyways
1 like@GamerGarmer companies working with children are required to perform background checks on staff. His audience are almost exclusively children, who interact with his staff in person.
0 likes@GamerGarmer Enjoy the rest of your day clutching at straws pal
0 likes@@Scrog90 this is what I found , the law only works for 4 industries, healthcare , education, finance industry and government roles , try next time buddy 😂
2 likes@@GamerGarmer So you think state laws aren't laws? 🤣
0 likes@@Scrog90 In the United States, there is no federal law that universally requires background checks for all job applications.
2 likesThis
@GamerGarmer "employers need to comply with all North Carolina background checks", and it's same in California. "Background checks are required by law in most US states". Took 2 seconds.
1 like@GamerGarmer Hilarious that you think there's no laws on background checks and you can just hire a nonce and claim you didn't mean to and it's not your fault 🤣
0 likes@@Scrog90 read it out for me then sir , I googled twice now there is none
3 likes@@GamerGarmer Except there is.
0 likes@@Scrog90 I did before replying ,there is none
2 likes@@GamerGarmer Google it. There absolutely is.
0 likes@@Scrog90 there is no such law , wtf you on ?
3 likes@@GamerGarmer Do you think people shouldn't be held accountable for breaking the law because they didn't mean to? Or because they're 19? Or because they're famous? Law should be applied equally to all society imo...
0 likes@GamerGarmer his punishment should be whatever the relevant courts decide based on the crime he committed.
0 likes@@Scrog90how many years do you think he should be locked up for ?50-60 ?lifetime ?
0 likesNot sure about where he operates his business, but most places in USA it's a legal requirement to perform background checks. It's not a mistake, it's a crime and should be a crime. Being 19 doesn't change anything. It's criminal negligence.
1 likeHe didn't excuse it, all he did was bring context as to how it happened which clarified it wasn't maliciously done, but just negligence from a teenager.
0 likesand he didnt excuse it? he literally said mr beast is an idiot for that
0 likesconveniently misses the part where he says mister beast is responsible and accountable but was a stupid 19 year old
0 likesHe should not be given a chance to learn from his blunder and should be locked up
3 likesWe're going for round 2 boys get f-ing ready!!!
0 likesMoldy cheese occasionally happens.
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"I like my cheese moldy bruh"
0 likesI said from the beginning almost all of it was bullshit.
0 likesProves that people will believe propaganda.
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@@Captain_Cosmic. 1$ assassin vs 1000000$ assassin
0 likes@@GyattEnjoyer I remember people believed MrBeast would assassinate DogPack as if DogPack did some Epstein level exposé.
0 likesand few months ago people were praising dogpack404
1 likethats still not even 50 % of all the allegations that are actually proven REAL. You can clearly see in the comments section, that this is a hype cope for bigger youtubers and their followers. Jimmy still deletes comments.
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@@GregorioStyrecowhat are the allegations proven real?
0 likes@@GregorioStyrecoone is an ex employee so he isn’t bias and the testimonies support that dogpack is a narcissist
1 like@@GregorioStyreco yeah that's the point EVERYONE could be lying, even this guy. Jimmy's a bad guy, we need to expose the others too, just like Jimmy just because you did a good thing does not exempt you from being bad.
0 likes@icegolemite i know exactly why. But none of you could ever think about the fact, that the employees could be lying thou.
0 likesYeah the point of the video wasn't about putting excusations off of beast but to expose dogpack
1 likeRename the god damn vid to the truth about dogpack404 bru this is clickbait as fuh
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If he changes to that it would be more clickbait
0 likesBy adding Mr beast on the captions/title it would tell that neither dogpack and Mr beast are right
He is saying that dogpack is using lies to push Mr beast in to cancellation but Mr beast used illegal ways to fulfill his greed.
Conclusion: all humans arent perfect we make mistakes, we make horrible decisions but dont hate on anyone even horrible people
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That is what makes us human
2 likesSoon someone will also do a long expose video on soggy serial, the sloppyseption thickens
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Situation after situation
2 likesmrbeast propaganda + who asked about your propaganda + money supporter + I hate money + burn all monies + pedophile + money propaganda + heil haters
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@@Candlewaxeater But most of the allegations against Mr. Best are untrue, about 50% of them are true
1 like@@تشاندلر-س6خ it's ragebait dw
1 like@@Queef_Stormheil putin
1 likedogpack meatrider
1 likeWhat do you mean؟
0 likesWe can’t say locoya was completely innocent. We should look more into that
0 likesBut what about Locoya running an adult company?
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Dude's allowed to be saucy if he wants
2 likesI like how Soggy didn't disclose you were paid by beast team in this video.
3 likesFor people unaware since each my replies keeps getting removed, Soggy was on a livestream on chud logics channel in which he amittes that he was paid by beast team to fly out for interviews. This is something he should have been open about in this video yet he lied.
edit: Stop deleting my replys Soggy
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@@crumdrum still doesn't count as a conflict of interest
0 likesNot really, but it should always be mentioned @@xooF1sh
0 likes@@xooF1shexactly
0 likesis his plane ticket being paid by the beast team relevant to this topic?
0 likes@@stephaniegiacco7524 He admitted to being paid by beast team on chud logics stream to be flown out to tgrm for interviews. He lied and said he paid his own plane ticket.
0 likesdogpack meatrider
1 like@@stephaniegiacco7524 on chud logic stream he admitted to being paid to be flown out by beast team. he never once disclosed information once in this video.
2 likeswhere does it say that, you are coping so hard
6 likesohohoho the beast succeeds again!
1 likereal ones who saw this video in time saw the Mr.Beast commented too
3 likesI really hope this is satire, saying that it pretty much everything lied about is for safety is just idiotic literally no other words than idiotic
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dogpack meatrider
0 likesHe didn’t say everything was a lie, but most things were. You can see what was a lie and what was not in the instances where he has the board with the papers in the back
8 likesthis vid needs more views
2 likesThis guy being a wanna be investigator, when all the people you interview will probably just side with their boss Mr beast , this is just pure B.S to begin , i guess you got paid by them to also do this
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If soggy is a wanna be investigator then what does that make of dogpack? He is also a wanna be investigator lol his only source is unreliable anonymous people 😂😂
2 likesdogpack feed you dog food and now you meatriding him to get fed actual food
3 likesdogpack meatrider
2 likesDog pack meat rider spotted
7 likesYeah yeah, sure Dogpack is unreliable or even malicious but that sht does not matter... You can attack him all you want everyone doesn't care about that, you lost the sauce bro, all I know is that there's legit facts that Mr Beast is also a piece of sht maybe even worse.
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@@sb18wlc the one of two is the coffeezila crypto stuff and the other one is the illegal gambling which only occurred once at his immaturity , dogpack made so many allegations he had to delete an entire video, 1/3 of it because of his own blunder and no one exposing it lmao ,there’s just too many nitpicks ,no sane person is dumb enough to respond to nitpicks
2 likesYeah 2 out of how many hand picked issues to debunk, funny how this doesn't cover the actually shitty stuff. The fact that there's still 2 that are true makes this even more funny.
0 likesThis makes you clearly you are mrbeast supporter. Go burn your money
0 likesOnly two remains lol and that too isn’t as bizzare as what your smoking
4 likesI’m sorry Mr Beast is not a good company. They are getting sued for unsafe practises on their Amazon show. They only made payment to a non-profit charity who did all the operations to restore eyesight 2 years later after public pressure. They sell moldy lunchables. Also hiring a sex offender is just appalling considering the target audience is children. These are the facts. Jimmy won’t own up to any of it which is even worse.
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dogpack meatrider
0 likesWatch the video bro
2 likesHere guys, a commenter who didn’t watch the video
5 likesA plot twist that I didnt know i needed😂
1 likePeople hating on MrBeast just because he's a rich straight white man. That's all there is to it. Kai Cenat's cameraman also got exposed as a PDF this year but no one hated on Kai Cenat because he's a rich black man.
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From what I recalled, it was like a 3 year age gap. Which is legal in a ton of states. So I'm not sure why that was big drama tbh.
0 likesDogpack looks like Sid from Ice Age.
0 likesYay
0 likesDawson may not be a good person, but god is mr beast far from a saint. Also Soggy you're not in the right here either, in fact it just seems like you're just obsessed in destroying dogpack's reputation here, rather than exposing "the truth". In fact this video just makes it seem like you're trying to defend mr beast, which you indirectly are
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@@Queef_Storm Mr beast still hired Kris and defended her, despite knowing shes a pedo. He is still not a good person.
2 likes@@NaLian605 Mr beast still hired Kris and defended her, despite knowing shes a pedo. He is still not a good person.
1 like@@randomised7562 I ain’t reading all that. Come back when you’ve taken dogpack’s meat out of your mouth and try again
0 likes@@Queef_Storm reread the comment before you actually talk mate. Mr beast is still in the wrong here, and Dawson helped in exposing many of the shady things that he did. I said that Dawson may be a bad person, but that doesn't mean that soggy should be defending Mr beast either. There's no personal attacks here, soggy just seems so focussed on dogpack's downfall rather than exposing the actual truth about mr beast
3 likesHe says that he is not defending. The reason why he targets dockpack is because of dockpack lies ruined some people mentality. And random people get harassed because dockpack convincing them that all the videos are scripted. Ofc he wants to expose his lies
1 likejust say you don't want to admit you let yourself be fooled but can't deny the evidence either so you're only option other than owning up to your mistakes it to resort to personal attacks
3 likeswhat the fuck is even going on anymore 💀
0 likesSure, many of the things DogPack talked about are false allegations. However, you don't realy show yourself as a credible source either.
11 likesYour war crime part was garbage. Please, if you are uninformed, don't talk about it or don't act high and mighty, while being even worse than DogPack.
First off all, there wasn't any gotcha moment about how the added definition of sleep depravation (13:46) disproves what they are talking about. Yes, it isn't a WAR crime, since he wasn't at war with Jimmy. Neither was Weddle a detainee. Neither is it torute, since it wasn't about obtaining information, punishing him or intimidation. "Awesome! That absolves MrBeast from any wrong doing."
You completely ignore why sleep depravation is considered a war crime though and this is the more important part than semantics.
Yes, Weddle made the decision himself. He alluded to it. If you would have shown context (if you even watched DogPack's video) you would know why this isn't neccessarily any better.
Money. Especially if you are in debt, which is also mentally and physically draining, and someone dangles an easy solution over your head, you are more likely to push yourself more than your body and mind can actually handle. Especially for something as bad as sleep depravation, just throwing money at a victim shouldn't be considered a fair solution...
Also Weddle was working for MrBeast, which pressures him even further, since the video cost ressources and him not delivering may lessen his chances of being in another video.
There is also another big question: How informed was Weddle about the consequences of sleep depravation? Was it written in a contract he signed? Was he properly instructed prior to starting the challenge? If not, that makes it far, far worse. I can guarantee you that most people don't know that sleep depravation is so mentally and physically damaging that it*s considered a war crime. Most people may think about how they stayed awake for 30 hours, either because they wanted to play games, watch a series or for some reason just couldn't sleep but it was only exhausting, so they won't consider how damaging 4 days or so without sleep can be, let alone 30 days...
There was a british TV series, Shattered. The contestants knew what they were getting themselves into, they were allowed to take naps ever so often and they had daily sessions with a psychiatrist and a doctor. They also had to face deranged challenges.
The show was criticised for it's unethical behavior, received multiple complaints from the general public and was criticised by healthcare professionals.
And MrBeast is supposed to make a better job? A rich and narcissitsic baffoon and his goon gang? Sure...
Sleep depravation, especially for the sake of entertainment is unethical. If he wants to make a video about it, Jimmy should do it himself, since there aren't any looming pressures over his head.
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@@GermanGlitchhunter I don't think Soggy is saying that Jake's problems aren't as bad as war, it seems more like Soggy just thinks Jake was being disingenuous; as he said, there are wars going on right now and Soggy seems to think it's insensitive to bring up war crimes right now, consensus also equated it to war crimes, so that's probably why he focused on it so much, because he has the viewers in mind. I think it was a missed opportunity for Soggy to examine it from a legal standpoint. Soggy also seems to be refusing to give Jake the benefit of the doubt because of his misrepresentation of the Delaware situation; he seems convinced that Jake is just a dogpack goon or something, other than that I think Soggy handled the majority of the other claims well, it's just not flawless and he also didn't criticize MrBeast as much as he promised, all he did was admit that 1 lottery was illegal. But I think that's just because in reality Soggy wanted to make a video about debunking DogPack and only included MrBeast so as not to look like he was catering, after all everything is polarizing and viewers are less likely to listen to you if you don't affirm their beliefs.
0 likesAnyway, ignorance is no excuse; I define MrBeast's behavior as negligent rather than malicious, because when you said he lured Jake with cash, I got the connotation that you meant he intentionally lured Jake into a trap just to take advantage of someone financially beneath him to assert his wealthy status over him or something. And I'm pretty sure the challenge was not to go 30 days without sleep, it was to be isolated for 30 days, Soggy calls it an isolation challenge, ( 1:12:18 ) that's why Dustin said it was similar to another isolation challenge they had: ( 1:12:54 ). If what Dustin says is true, and they are very similar, then the reason they didn't turn off the lights is because they didn't want him to have any sense of time, not to prevent him from sleeping; in the game Dustin references, the contestants found ways to overcome the problem of constant light by using blankets or other ways to cover their eyes while sleeping. Given that Dustin said that the problems Jake faced were never a problem before or after Jake, this kind of implies that Mr. Beast likely expected Jake to find a way to compensate for the light by using basic solutions like a blanket or something to allow him to get some sleep like the others, after all, Jake was an employee, which means he'd have an advantage most contestants don't have, which is that he likely has seen other people's methods for succeeding in that same challenge.
And if it means anything, I've had a copy of MrBeast's leaked PDF document for months now that he sends to his employees; it talks about whenever employees make mistakes or cost him money, and his perspective on it. Verbatim: "Mistakes are okay! Genuinely they are and I expect you to make a lot. That’s perfectly fine. Every veteran here has cost me a million dollars at one point or another, and you can go ask them yourself if I ever held it over their heads. The reason i’m okay with fuck ups is because I know that’s how you learn." and "I just beg you that you learn from every mistake and try not to repeat it, that’s when it gets annoying. I’ve never ever ever once fired someone on the spot for messing up, you have nothing to be afraid of. Own shit so we can address how to fix it and then move on." I'm not sure if he really upholds this belief or not, but the statement is there, and it probably helps MrBeast if he wants to make a case that he's notified employees that they don't need to worry about the consequences of making mistakes unless it's repeated or you're not learning from them.
@@Queef_Storm You know what's truly lmao? I saw that you linked you reddit and now it's clear why you made your ... joke... You can't handle the criticism I directed at Soggy...
1 like@@Captain_Cosmic. Well, maybe my wording was a little bit off since I rewrote the comment multiple times.
2 likesI can't say wether or not DogPack or Soggy is worse. Soggy just showed me that he isn't trustworthy.
If he wants to refute the war crime topic, he should do so properly. Not through semantics. Not through talking about willingly participating in "torture" (since that doesn't make "torture" all of a sudden any better).... Or the funniest thing in the world anyone can do: Talk about actual wars... "Right, I punched you in the face but people die in wars or are in actual slaver, so whats the issue, people have it worse, don't be a beta."
Also he focuses a lot on the "joke" part. Where is the rebuttle? Weddel was isolated, so he couldn't google it himself and again, since people don't know the harm associated with prolonged sleep depravation, he just simply chugged it off as a joke but afterwards learned that it's so bad it's considered a war crime, well, in war.
Weddle himself also talked about the power dynamik point. Why not talk about it here. How money, work relationship and social pressure may have pressured him into staying longer or even accepting the challenge.
Yeah, it most likely wasn't malicious and yes, the goon gang definetely didn't had much foresight in what they are doing. They most likely didn't know themselves how bad sleep depravation can be. Especially Jimmy, who most likely though about the clicks, attention and money he can gain probably more often then doesn't barely thinks about consequences.
Ignorance doesn't protect you from commiting "crimes" though.
Weddle definetly is a person that can't realy say no but that doesn't make it any better.
One point I sadly forgot to include is ethics. There are reasons why certain areas forbid financial incentives for certain acts, which is due to ethics. For instance organ donation, or an example I recently saw, egg extraction for science. Those are mediacl intrusions, which have short and long term risks. Thats also why extreme mental and physical challenges are highly questionable.
There is also the problem that mostly poor people would be victims of such exploitative incentives. Most organ donations for instance would come from poor people. Similarily most people willing to compete in such challenges will also be poor people.
@@Queef_Storm Lmao indeed, lmao indeed.
1 likeNah, DogPack is definitely still worse, DogPack deliberately abused connections he had with people to get back at MrBeast LLC and falsely accused multiple people, Soggy was at most pedantic about claims, but he wouldn't tangibly be able to do that if they just decided on being honest first time around. But that aside, you do make quite the point that there's an undeniable power dynamic that incentivizes employees to impress MrBeast. That said, if Jake Weddle just kept giving the green light to everything and every sign he gave showed he was willing to go through with it, it's kind of hard for me to imagine that it was done maliciously rather than it being a simple miscommunication issue.
0 likesAnd as you said, most people overlook the effects of sleep deprivation, so if Jimmy is nothing but a "buffoon" with some "goon gang" then you're spelling an easy gap in their foresight just as much as Weddle; considering he was a part of this gang, he would know as much as they did. This just seems like a guy who's negligent meeting a guy who doesn't know how to say no.
But maybe it was maliciously done? Who knows? None of us were there. All I can afford you is that you could be right; that's as far as we'll progress with this from our limited positions.
@@GermanGlitchhunter lmao I’m not reading all that either but based on the first sentence it’s clear my comment got you mad lmao
0 likes@@Queef_Storm If you have nothing of value to add, why even bother writing? If you haven*t even read the comment, why even bother writing?
2 likesSince you are such a smooth brain you surely noticed the wording "you don't realy show yourself as a credible source either". This is not me defending DogPack, this is me criticising this video and Soggy Cereal of how hypocritical he is.
@@Queef_Storm mate stop going trough these comments and defending mr beast in each one of these. If ur not even going to read actual well written criticism then stfu
2 likesI ain't reading all that but I'll say this: how do DogPack's swimmers taste?
3 likesBy 2027 this drama will be more convoluted than the fnaf lore
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Explain the events that took place in the week before. I want you to Explain all 23 endings in detail
0 likestell me about the fnaf lore then
0 likesSomething about dog pack never sat right with me but I couldn’t explain it
1 likeas soon i saw garret, i already knew this video was gonna be BALLER! HATS OFF dude hell yeah
1 likeMrBeast is innocent lets gooo 🙌
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@ yeah pretty sure he addressed those
0 likes@@macias7125 if it’s not 100% then he’s not innocent
0 likes@@arielperez3613 some? it was most of them lol
0 likesEven soggy admitted that MrBeast is still not a good person despite some allegations being proven false.
1 like@@randomised7562 I literally responded to your essay dude and no he's not "hating" he's showing the facts
0 likesyou're just a mrbeast hater
@@bredfarmer14 lmao, yeah but in all seriousness soggy is just purely hating on dogpack at this point
1 like@@randomised7562 yeah those were 2 of the 3 points he was only guilty of dude lmao you’re the one who’s gullible dude and using the dumbest excuse to hate on him since you clearly didn’t watch the video. Most of the things he was accused of were false
0 likesHe literally gave you all the evidence dude you’re the one who’s just gullible and using any excuse to hate lol. He didn’t dismiss them at all dude lmao you didn’t even watch the video lol Jimmy didn’t even know that Jake was a criminal so you’re wrong once more
Yeah better late than never dude
And he didn’t know dude do you have any evidence of that? Exactly you DON’T
Do you think Jimmy even know that this was shadman’s art? Or that he knew that shadman drew that kind of stuff? Also you seem to forget that Jimmy was a minor at the time.
Yeah again he only did it ONCE and that one time he did it, he wasn’t even aware that it was an illegal lottery hence why he didn’t do it again.
What market manipulation? What schemes?
Also you’re talking to a guy who’s participated in a Mrbeast video (it’s an upcoming one) and I know the truth of what happens so I can confidently say you’re wrong
@@randomised7562i mean.... they kinda look alike thats probably the reason why they hate each other (its a joke)
0 likes@@Nick117YT true bro he himself has bought this upon himself specially with the whole lunchly launch
0 likes@@macias7125 if those are your only two points then you're literally just a gullible kid, and its so obvious too. I have watched the video and soggy cereal barely provides any debunking evidence, and for the points such as the delaware and jake weddle situation he just dismisses them as, "oh but jake the viking is a bad person therefore its false"
2 likesAlso Mrbeast only got rid of chris once there was overwhelming evidence. This is the same guy who was literally defending chris and letting him stay on his channel, whilst being actively aware of him being a pedophile, want more proof? He literally stares at the shadman art (who is an artist that creates sexaulised content of minors) that Chris bought and had put up on a wall.
Mr Beast still abused Jake Weddle and still did put him through solitary confinement which is illegal, but once again Soggy Cereal just dismisses it and doesn't actually disprove it
Then there's also the shady crypo stuff that Mrbeast has gotten himself into which is further covered by Coffeezilla, and its also been confirmed that Mrbeast has participated in market manipulation as well as pump and dump schemes which are literal scams.
@@Agastya_Tyagi I personally think he's weird and has horribly scummy marketing as well as ruined YouTube for the most part. But I think he was gonna but couldn't because more stuff just kept coming and coming. I'd be overwhelmed to honestly. Still he probably purposely ignored them and dropped a trashy ass lunchables copy like smh. Honestly we are in the end game now
0 likes@@randomised7562 no dude the only gullible kid here is you lmao did you not watch the video? He’s only guilty of 3
1 like1. The illegal lotteries were only done ONCE and it was because Jimmy most likely didn’t know it was an illegal lottery
2. He already got rid of Kris Tyson
@ well as a lawyer puts it, don’t say anything when you know you’re innocent
0 likes@@macias7125 no, he isn't at all, there's still hard evidence of Mr Beast being a scumbag, including him defending chris tyson, the hired RsOs, etc. You're just being a gullible kid
1 like@@Nick117YT no, majority of the allegations are still true. Soggy is just obsessed with destroying dogpack's reputation, and yeah I'll agree that dawson isn't a good person himself. Obviously you and OP are a bunch of gullible kids on youtube, but you need to understand that Mr beast is quite literally an awful person, has hired RSOs which there is still hard evidence of, has defended Chris Tyson who is a pedophile, has participated in market manipulation, etc.
4 likesNobody here is in the right, and soggy cereal is literally just being a spiteful idiot right now
IDK bro he still hasnt responded himself to any of the allegations
0 likes@@randomised7562 yes he is dude (for the most part)
0 likes@@Nick117YT yeah he's only guilty of like 3
1 likeNot innocent but he's like down 90% of the allegations
4 likesno he isnt mate
0 likesThere’s a lot to unpack here.
5 likesWell done for not dismissing the Mr. Beast allegations and for exposing how Dogwack/Dawson is a sociopath, ruining multiple lives in the process!”
dam them lying about that anime plot is wild that anime actually sounds like a good plot and at 34:26 bruh he could ahve made the thumb nail i dunno girls smiling with pink t-shirts on and the pink ribbon symbolizing cancer awareness moth and have the title being "paying for breast cancer surgery" or something like that there no need to add the boob thing just gross and wierd its clear what he was doing
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It's a great anime
0 likesThis guy even speaks as Idubbbys imitation of european immigrants.
1 likeYou look like a cross between Idubbbz and Onision. Do with that information what you will.
1 likeHoodie looks like Ed Sheeran
1 likethey maybe be a pedophile, but at least use the right pronouns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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have a cry
2 likesReal talk man id change the title and stuff to like "the truth about dogpack" or something because everyones recommended is being filled with mr beast and are just ignoring it
5 likesWe need the truth out
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He did it🥳
0 likesAgreed. Video looks like just another Mr Beast slop vid in its current state. It needs to get updated pronto
0 likesI am so mad at myself for blindly trusting people on the internet. Twice.
0 likesThis is character desruction attempt of Dogpack, not an attempt of refuting his statements. You are a shill!
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@@GabrielV65 I don't answer to bot accounts.
0 likesThat's literally what Dogpack does
0 likesdogpack meatrider
1 likeWOW, would ya LOOK at that, ANOTHER Flimsy, Cheaply Edited and Dumb D*bunking video. Yeah, keep kissing your lovers MrBeast and Stucky, glizzy glazer 💀
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@@Queef_Storm Lmao, yeah, keep drinkin' your Prime in that Lunchly-themed basement of yours 😭
1 like@@Queef_Storm this made me laugh more then it should have
1 likeslurp slurp oh DogPack slurp slurp it tastes SOOOO gooood slurp slurp tell me when you're almost there sluuuurrrrp
3 likes@@autisticricktofen Ouch 💀
0 likes@@captainzee55I mean what do you expect from a fnf profile picture?
4 likesKeep that dogs cuck with you
6 likesu look damn good
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@@ruinicibz4511 yea I see that , soggy is mad attractive tho
1 like@GamerGarmer idk dogpack looks good in the rossana video
1 likeHe mogs dogpack lol
0 likesYou staged this entire thing with all these Beast employees didnt you? LMAO you all got paid and Beast is suddenly a good guy now
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@@Queef_Storm yes i know what you do you dont have to scream it out
0 likes@@xooF1sh he never lied, he always said the allegations were alleged. all the times he accused jimmy he backed it up with video evidence and former employee testimonials. he has nothing to gain from lying, getting millions of views and zero $ out of it is proof to this authenticity. Go and watch all the vids and tell me where he lied
0 likes@@Chingbong1 I want you to hear this in the clash of clans hogrider voice: MEAT RIDAAAAAA
0 likesnobody said mrbeast was a good guy and dogpacks video being demontetized doesnt take away the fact that he lied
0 likesdogpack meatrider identified
1 like@@captainzee55 dogpacks video is demontetized, soggy getting them racks from beast and the views both lol
2 likesSo dogpack is a good guy attempting to expose Dogpack is now a bad thing 🤡
3 likesWhat happened to justice
ok dogpack is not a saint but that doesn't make his research any less valid , if you are not 12 everyone can see through the scammy nature of beast practices.
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@@Queef_Stormidk why you’re defending MrBeast in every comment. Even soggy admits in his own video that MrBeast is still a very shady person
1 likeslurp slurp "Mmmm, DogPack, you taste so good"
2 likesSo, Avi was right about calling dogpack a clout chaser, or am I not getting the point right?
1 likehad a bad feeling about this guy ever since i saw him use "bro" and " 💀" in the same sentence, i hate those yt shorts users
0 likesBro got paid some pennies by jimmy to make this video
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still meatriding dogpack
2 likesI thought this was done?
0 likesPretty weak video. Same arguments, interviews, claims, being pedantic, is the hole CGI? No its not and yes it is. You mostly criticise his wording and presentation, that dumb viewers will make assumptions, saying "these wheels on the bus are CGI" dumb viewer will think THERE IS NO BUS. Also you make the argument every time that legal means moral. But then accidentally later say "but this is still scummy" ruining your own implications earlier. Very weak video, but so was DogPacks videos.
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keep riding dogpack's meat lil buddy
0 likesDog packs 1$ lawyer
7 likesDogpack is literally just a salty ex-employee that wanted to get revenge on Mr. Beast for firing him.
2 likesDogpack took advantage of the Kris Tyson drama and made a hate video on Mr. Beast.
The trans community was upset with Mr. Beast because he fired Kris Tyson. They wanted to spite him so when they saw that there was a hate video on Mr. Beast they liked the video and made it popular. That's how Dogpack got popular.
I'm glad Mr. Beast never gave attention to Dogpack. This video by Soggy Cereal is great. It shows that Dogpack's allegations were false.
Dogpack is a loser. He tried to ruin Mr. Beast's reputation with false allegations. F Dogpack and F anyone that supports Dogpack.
This is like a self feeding snake. and endless snake the consumes itself over and over again for eternity.
1 likeImma rewtach MrBeast now 😂
1 likeFinally someone calls out these MrBeast's fake Allegations
0 likesThank you for talking about that!
Good video
0 likesI see beats PR team is working.
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I see your education isn't. Learn to spell. And stop slurping dogpack's red rocket.
0 likesI can't believe that everyone brushes past the fact that dogpack downloaded what he thought to be CP, tried to reverse google search it to find where the alleged CP came from, and then decided that it was legitimate (from his perspective at the time) so that he could then put it in a thumbnail tester to optimize the algorithm and then spread it to 1.5million people. Say what you will about kris, but sharing that file privately was at least 1.5million times less than what dumb4ss dogpack over here managed to do... They even had to censor in post because the original video accidently showed it completely uncensored for 3 seconds....
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It’s like soggy said in 39:02 dogpack doesn’t gives a shi! about who or what he uses or whose life he ruins just to push his own narrative
4 likesWhen is the Mr Beast colab being uploaded? Or the 'CoffeeZilla used investigators from wish' coming out?
0 likeswent from being a mrbeast drama to fnaf lore
5 likesWhat my opinion right now, mr beast-bad guy BUT still is a guy that do more good than 97% of people
5 likesdogpack- genuine garbage manipulating c*nt
This is definitely going in an article. And on the news. I 100% bet
2 likesIf Delaware is a hoax, why did Mr beast then retroactively deleted all scenes he is in. Jake literally said Delaware is his sister husband so yeah why would he make himself look weird
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I dunno, maybe we should wait to actually hear from Jimmy? Like everyone should have right from the start?
0 likesThe main thing that caught my eye while watching soggy's video is how quick he is to brush off jake's situation, while the war crime claim was bogus(but frankly I was surprised anyone took it seriously), he also tried to imply that the fact jake weddle was payed and "wasn't a detainee" made it...moral?
12 likesThe Jake was payed is specifically why the argument why could leave anytime" doesn't hold any water, its well known that humans will push themselves to the limits, even do immoral actions if desperate for money, in Jake's case he pushed himself to the point of borderline PTSD, and frankly who wouldn't? would anyone not push themselves to the point of trauma if offered so much money? what Jake went through is similar to coercion, and its all on mrbeast and his crew for having inhumane conditions there. People keep blaming Jake, saying he "made money" or "could leave anytime", but if I hypothetically could give you enough money to buy a mortgage, but you had to cut your arm for it, would that be ok or moral for me to do? of course not, so I don't get why people unironically follow the same train of logic in the weddle situation.
Actual reality tv shows are heavily moderated for this very reason, because without moderation people would unironically kill themselves for the cash prize, and the fact mrbeast had no moderation is the thing that was unethical and immoral, and I am tired of people downplaying it as anything else but a insanely inhumane and negligent act.
edit:ive rewatched the 2nd dogpack video and now the entire war crimes thing soggy pointed out is a huge false narrative, the literal next line jake says is "they don't even do that to prisoners" after the war crime comment, its not him saying "they did war crimes on me!!!" its to put it into perspective just how messed up what they did is, that not even war criminals and terrorists are treated as badly as him.
Alongside this, the whole defense soggy made for jimmy's delaware fiasco is downright discusting and makes it very hard to think of his video as unbiased due to it, his defense was basically "oh but jimmy was a but 19 year old boy who did a immature oopsie :c, besides delaware is already fired so who cares", which is absolutely discusting, soggy...this is a situation of mrbeast hiring a DUCKING PEDOPHILE to work for his COMPANY WHICH HAS A CHILD AUDIENCE, the fact he even had the quts to defend this like he did either shows bias or the fact he geniunely thinks pedophilia is not a big deal, either way not a good look.
(Credit to u/tey_ull on Reddit for this comment. If you don't like what he said then don't attack me lol)
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I don't see the problem with the whole Delaware thing. He was just pointing out that, no, Mr Beast did not in fact know he hired a pedophile. He made a mistake which was not doing a background check, and then when he learned about it, he fired the guy. That seems like something you can forgive and forget to me.
1 likeThat first point is such a piss poor argument it's insane. Having someone try to complete a challenge is not the same as cutting off their arm, that's such an obvious logical fallacy it's honestly pathetic to even bring up. It's a CHALLENGE, it's supposed to be difficult to complete. If someone gets paid if they break a world record, and then they break their leg trying or overwork themselves trying, that's on them. You don't need to be a slave to money to the point where you will die for it, you REALLY don't. You can just work a normal job man, it isn't that hard. Such a braindead take from the redditor.
1 like42:52 doobus goobus is more of defending jimmy in his video shown on screen as it is from a year prior to any of this when the biggest mr beast drama was twitter calling his the devil following his vid where he helped a buncha people with hearing loss or partal blindness or something along those lines.
0 likes3:30 Jake the Viking admitted that Jimmy knew of his brother-in-law's PDF file record before the hiring process. That he had pleaded guilty of saving sexual interactions with a minor ages 1-11 years of age when he was in hia 20s.
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And you believe that guy?
1 likefor all we know you're also a liar. but dogpack also can't be trusted
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- DogPack who never had proof is a liar based on Soggy's proof
0 likes- Soggy is a liar despite there being no evidence to suggest as much
Pick one
1000 boob transplant is raw foe😭
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They should do 1000 height altering surgery
0 likesSaving 1000 men from being forever alone or something
Saving 1000 men from the redpill
The beast is back???
0 likesIf you're allegations are true, there's no need to fear breaking an NDA.
1 likeI cant believe how many of these things I noticed yet still chose to believe dogpack because I trusted him. Still though, I wish you had adressed the faked hospital allegations as well as the weird ass picture hanging in mrbeasts room... It just goes to show that neither side is 100% right and there is always nuance to any situation
2 likesYapper
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Get off dogpack meatrider
0 likesAli koca is gonna have a feel day with this one💀
2 likesThis is genuinely one of the best videos ive ever seen
3 likesyea u ask people from mr beast ofc they going to speak badly bout the guy
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@@BasherBeans All if them have been compensate by mr beast the eye surgery thing If they didnt make the video about it they would never have given them the money. Bruh like It have to become something first for them to react. So far they dodge all accountability. Sure dogpack is a sly guy but the mr cooperate are exploitative and with recent video of coffeezilla he is so inoccent
0 likesI don't know who should they interview but 100% not the people mr beast pay💀
@@victualdistrict9735 Then who are they suppose to ask then?
0 likes@@BasherBeansstill doesn't change the fact. That they are allign with beast so
0 likes@@victualdistrict9735 Because they show evidence that he was a weirdo and the voice recording why he was fired.
0 likes@@BasherBeans They still working for mr beast. so how sure they are telling the truth I didn't say that dogpack is right but how can u trust them either about dogpack
0 likesSo what? Are they just gonna ask people who weren't related to Mrbeast nor Dogpack404? They where talking to the people who were part of the firing of Dogpack404.
0 likesWhat r u saying dogpack lied about everything
2 likesThe dogpack situation is crazy
1 likedamn, thats whats up. yea i dont think mr beast has ill intentions, but some of the things make you stop and think like the crypto and chris tyson and not explaining nuances like the lightning on the raft or why staff were in challenges. crazy good deep dive video tho
2 likeswhat the heck?
2 likesWhy did you left out the fact that Delaware is Jake the Viking's brother in law? Jake the Viking lying about his brother in law makes no sense, and your argument about Jake the Viking not being trustworthy because Jake Weddle said that he doesn't like him is a poor argument.
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Idk makes sense to me
2 likesYou just know MrBeast glazers are going to try using these false allegations to "pardon" and completely disregard MrBeast's actual wrongdoing.
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@Daymare19 DogPack404 is also in the wrong, don't get me wrong, but with MrBeast's popularity, coupled with DogPack being exposed, people will disregard his actual wrongdoing and start saying he was "innocent" all along when he clearly isn't
0 likesWell I am not a beast glazer because I look at the good and bad
2 likesWhy are some of the chats with Dogpack404 blurred out?
0 likesGod I hate Jake Weddle
4 likesI hope all the drama slop channels that ate right out of dogpack's palm for months will also chew on this and spit out some corrections that their fans need to hear because they always took his word as if he was some Messiah meanwhile Dawson was just disgruntled employee-core since Day 1 and everybody should've noticed from the way he went about his business
4 likesgreat quote from, DinosaurDUDE1 :
0 likesto anyone here who is confused, as someone who studies history, do not choose any side. You go on a side as far as you agree with the interpretation. some allegations are more likely to be true than others, accept those, but don't trust all of them. accept that mrbeast has done charity and value that, but do not think he is a perfectly good person. there is no in the middle, there is no on one side, and there is no queen of england. you just have to be at a reasonable point between likely, unlikely and false.
Such a good video, thanks. Ive been sh**ing on the dogpack vids since they came out, clearly reeked of deception or a lack of credibility at best and everyone seemed to believe them
1 likeIt's like if Max and iDubbz had a kid, nice
0 likesEverybody was angry when I called out that little crying boy in Dogpacks video - yikes
2 likesGeez.
0 likesI think I'll wait for the expose on this expose of expose.
1 likeStucky and Soggy are the only two that actually did research before making videos 😭
3 likesWho paid for your flight to MB studio?
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Probably his own money. Just look at the views on these videos. Hundreds of thousands and millions of views. It will not be a loss at all since this video will most definitely get a few millions views and he'll get more money. I think you just discovered that YouTube is a job to some people
1 likeJust finished watching the whole thing, really well made video. Thank you.
2 likes51:55 id recognize someone from south africa lol
0 likesI hate reality. Why can’t we just have good guys in real life.
1 likeMr Beast = good
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@@crplfox9102 Hopefully, it's hard to tell these days
0 likes@@CoolOkay_ He's trolling
0 likesNo, bro... 🤦♂️ This is why we keep having this problem, why can't no one see nuance? Everyone is either "this guy bad and this guy good".
1 likeBro getting payed from mrbeast
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Bro getting paid by dogpack
3 likesLook at coffeezillas video..that'll change your mind
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@@CoolOkay_ thank you bro
0 likes@@edwardholder429 You know what bro, it's cool, we don't need to argue over it 🤙
0 likes@CoolOkay_ also I never said the cp stuff was true, I'm just saying that it's honestly all still relatively bad stuff coming out
0 likes@CoolOkay_ I mean it did fuck over Logan paul. Though Jimmy is not stupid like Logan so idk. We just have to see. Still bad shit though
0 likesYeah, I'm sure a crypto scam is gonna suddenly make false allegations about cp true retroactively, that's gonna be the game changer.
6 likesAll crypto is a scam to be fair
0 likesnow tag legal eagle
1 like"Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless slander about me lol" -mrbeast
1 likethis whole saga is just zoomers learning that nuance exists
5 likesTerrible, misleading, clearly biased video.
12 likesFirst off, let's just be clear about this: This is essentially the official Mr. Beast response. The fact that this person has all of this access to the Mr. Beast team and these secret recordings from the company shows that they signed off on this. Most likely, the legal team advised the Mr. Beast company not to post a large public response but did accept a surrogate, a seemingly unbiased third party who could post a response. This doesn't discredit the video, but it is already deceptive to not elaborate on how this contact was made and if he was or was not being compensated for this labor.
The video itself makes an effort to make a very emotional and dramatic nitpick of Dogpack's video while being aggressively uncharitable and misleading at several points. Let me list off a few:
1) Delaware. Jake, in the video, clearly spoke about the story of Delaware as a watercooler rumor. The substance of the story was not the specifics. It wasn't about how he was hired or where he came from. It wasn't about background checks. The bottom line is that within the workplace, people knew about his history and for some reason he still worked there. In a professional, responsible setting, he would have been fired for this child-adjacent job. It reflects on a workplace culture that doesn't take this seriously.
2) The "war crime" joke. Having the person come on and defend his boss and subtly blame Jake Weddle for how the video went down does nothing to mitigate the actual point. It's highly suspect that you attempt to paint Jake's retelling of the story as deceptive when he's clearly speaking off the cuff and even laughs when retelling the joke. There was clearly humor in it, but it doesn't matter! The point was that THEY KEPT A GUY IN A ROOM AND DIDN'T LET HIM HAVE ANY TIME WITH THE LIGHTS OFF. It does not matter if he was technically able to leave. They dangled a lifechanging amount of money in his face and forced him to be subjected to actual torture to get it. It's scummy, unethical, and downright sociopathic. I don't care about any excuses brought in post-hoc by this so-called friend. I don't care if Jake's mental health wasn't great beforehand. The point is that the video was exploitatative and cruel.
3) Illegal lotteries. This is a case of deceptive editing on Soggy's part. I went and rewatched Dogpack's video and HE ACKNOWLEDGED SOME OF THE STREAMS HAVE DISCLAIMERS. He was pointing out these random moments in the streams where they would sporadically announce informal stretches of time where you MUST purchase something and and item would be bundled WITH YOUR PURCHASE. That's an illegal lottery! It doesn't matter if he occasionally mentions no purchase necessary or if it's in the description; you can't do that!
4) He did not make any false CP allegations. You watched the video. You can have your interpretation of how someone would reasonably respond to the material posted. You made sure to gloss over a bunch of other weird stuff that was posted and many other things that could reasonably considered to be red flags.
5) Oh, wow, Mr. Beast joined Tony's Open Chain... back in September. AFTER Dogpack's video came out!? AFTER THE CONTROVERSY!?! No but it's fine, they've been "in talks" for a long time. We should have known. I wonder how Dogpack could have google searched something that happened in the future. LOL I'd go on the Wayback machine and see what the website said in the interim time, but this rebuttal is such a lie it's wild and I'm not going to bother. With the Feastables vs Hersheys, this is inane. He's comparing two bars. Soggy here holds two bars in his hands. At a glance, you can tell that these are competing products with comparable sizes. Trying to deceptively use "serving sizes", which are arbitrarily set by the producer is stupid. Dawson made it very clear he was comparing two bars and the bars you can literally see in your hands are not massively different in size. The fact is that the Mr. Beast bar contains more sugar. Furthermore, if you break it down by grams, Mr. Beast is only marginally better on sugar and it's actually worse on calories. The fact is, Feastables is ultra processed garbage that is no better than Hershey's and its competing size is worse for you.
6) Dawson potentially having a personal problem with Locoya doesn't disprove any sexual harrassment claims whatsoever. Debunk the claim, not the messenger. I don't care if he's a disgruntled former employee.
I just wasted 20 minutes of my life typing this. Time for an unnecessary personal attack: Soggy's voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
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@@thechronocrator this is the dumbest bunch of pedantic nitpicking I've ever read.
1 likePer fucking atom, the feastables bar is healthier.
@@Paladont Grams aren't a measure of size; they're a measure of mass. You can use grams to analyze the composition of the bar. Sure, you can cherrypick and point out that the Feastables bar is slightly lower in sugar, but it's denser in calories (making it more fattening per gram). However, people don't take out a scale and weigh their food. The feastables team decided that a bar was two servings, which suggests that the average person buys a Feastables bar and eats half of it and saves the rest for later. I find this unlikely. What's more likely is people eat the full bar. That's a more typical experience with candy bars from my observation, and it's reflected in the similarly sized Hershey's bar being a single serving. That one serving is larger than a serving of Feastables, but it's still comparable to the two servings of Feastables. Also, the Feastables bar is listed as "King Size" on its website, but this is meaningless. In store, the Feastables 'King Size' bar is directly competing with the Hershey's bar's normal size and DOES NOT list King Size on its packaging or on any major retailer's store listings. The smaller size bar is often packaged as smaller bars in bigger packs. Again, holding the two competing bars, I don't see any reason why a consumer would eat them any differently.
0 likesAltogether, the regular consumer might pick a Feastables bar over a Hersheys bar and eat it expecting that they made a good health decision, but this was just misleading marketing.
Also, Soggy lied about the new formula having less sugar. It went from 13g to 15g for the same size. They also added more ingredients and lower quality ingredients, making it more like Hershey's when they reformulated it.
@@arielperez3613 "Hey if you sit in a room with the lights on I'll give you more money than most people make in a year"
1 likeIf that's torture, life is torture. Jake was probably going through drug withdrawals and that's why a very normal and easy challenge had him feeling horrible within 11 days.
And he still got paid boatloads of cash
@@thechronocrator 5) grams are the objective measurement of size here, so stop arguing when you have to admit you're wrong
1 like@@Paladontjust because he got paid doesn’t mean it’s ok. That’s literally exploiting people’s desperation for entertainment. If you don’t see how this is wrong then you have problems
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2 likes1) It's really simple and you're just not getting he point. The point that HAS NOT BEEN REFUTED is that a REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER worked for the company and people KNEW ABOUT IT AND HE WASN'T FIRED.
2) Yes, people will often subject themselves to horrific conditions if they're in need of lifechanging money. When you're actually dealing with it, it's much different. Sleep deprivation is considered torture for a reason. You didn't prove anything by asking people a hypothetical.
5) I did watch the video. You didn't read my post. Try reading it again and see what I said about "per gram".
Please try harder.
Oh darn, I read point 5.
2 likesSoggy measured them per Gram like 10 seconds after he mentioned serving sizes and per gram measurements objectively proved dogpack was lying you didn't even watch the video
1) people believed it, so dismissing it as 'watercooler rumor's is dumb.
5 likes2) it wasn't a war crime, nor did people take it as a joke. This was seen all over the internet. Nor was it a crime, nor was it even bad. To prove this, if I offered people 100k to go through what Jake did, the vast majority of people would agree and be happy with their decision.
Not even reading the rest if your first 2 are that bad
Extreme misleading, backtracking, nitpicking and gaslighting
2 likesKeep bouncing on that dog pack meat
6 likesNo bro. You ain't gonna win this. Even Legal Eagle i think. Bro get off the mold 🤕
1 likeI thought you were dog pack 😂
0 likesGross. Stop saying She when talking about a man
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Lol pretty sure yt is censoring my comments now
1 like@@CoolOkay_ It's not meaningless.
1 likeStop lying. It is a lie when you say that a man is a woman
@@codylawson1257 Because it becomes an eye roller when too many people complain about something meaningless.
0 likes@@CoolOkay_ People do care. If they didn't then you wouldn't have felt the need to comment lol
1 likeThis is the least important part of the video. Bro if you want to say "he" then say it, no one cares.
2 likesFr
4 likessoggy cereal the goat
1 likeAfter 4 months jimmy has finally hired his $1,000,000 lawyer 🔥
6 likesAll jokes aside tho this was actually a surpsingly good defense for jimmy and his company while not denying the bad actions that they actually did commit
Mist or beast
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Mista veads
0 likesBrooooo this is a never ending cycle 😂😂😂 can we just wake up tomorrow and forget about squirrelhead mr beast😂
0 likesHere from dylan zitkus who got texted by mebeast to watch rhis video
1 likecant wait for content cop on soggy cereal
0 likesthank you for actually interviewing people. AND EXPLAINING HOW DOGPACK ISNT A GOOD GUY
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Hu Tao pfp 🔥🔥🔥
0 likes45:39 i mean you gotta feel bad for dogpack here. and youre shitting on him for being fired? its so fucked up
1 likeWow nice video
0 likesWhen you talk about kris tyson, please refer to him as He, him* , we don't give sympathy or respect to pdf files.
1 likenext up The TRUTH about soggy cereal
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Then next is the TRUTH of chandler i swear
0 likesHow is Mr. Beast able to see who subscribed to him in order to do the Samsung giveaway? Is that something you can see in YouTube studios? I think PewDiePie is right here. It is a scam when people do that. And even if Mr. Beast could see subscribers how would he reach out? YouTube removed DM's many years ago.
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You can go into YouTube studio and check who's subscribed to you in chronological order.
0 likesBasically just sent people to pick subscribers during that time spand.
0 likes@@cyinic yeah and Mr. Beast should have clarified that when promoting it. So it is still a subscribe bait. If he clarifies what people need to do then people might not want to subscribe and find it too complicated to do. People are lazy whereas a quick press on subscribe is easy but then they aren't fully entering his competition as they thought they would.
0 likes@@Felix-kt4xv they can comment on one of their videos or reach out to them with a social media connected to their account, if they don't have any videos or connected accounts I'm not sure if/how they would reach out
1 like@@cyinic Thank you for clarifying! How can you then message them too or reach out?
0 likesYou can see who is subbed to you if they have their subscriptions public so you can't see everyone because a lot of people have them on private
2 likesDid mr beast delete his comment that was on this video
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Yeah he shouldn't have said anything. But it doesn't matter, his comment is not that big of a deal.
0 likes@@AbdulAhad0128I just reposted it on here. Jimmy is a fool if he thinks no one saved his comment.
3 likes@@AbdulAhad0128Yeah it was “Finally! A video that doesn’t spread baseless slander about me lol”
2 likesI took a screenshot of the comment and hours later it was deleted lol.
@@HaloDragon_ Something like "Finally, a video that doesn't slander me lol" i'm sure someone took a screenshot of it tho
3 likesWhat did it say?
0 likesWhy am I the one who has to decide whether I think he’s a good person or not. I’m not this independent soggy
0 likesThis shud be renamed to Content Cop : Dogpack404 tbh
0 likes23:50 it's all the same youtuber 😭
0 likesNow I'm waiting for you to drop a video about dogpacks philanthropy accusation videos
0 likesI Didn't Work for DogPack404. He's a Fraud.
0 likesNo wonder why MrBeast wants to sue him.
0 likesNot sure who to believe anymore
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@@purple-69- weak
0 likes@@Darkcore77 ?!
0 likes@purple-69- oh really, now you chicken out and go awol 😔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@purple-69- bro stop pegging people
0 likesWatch the 1 hour 30 min video or stop having opinion.
1 likeBro we are in the Wrong Timeline MrBeast getting cancelled and uncancelled at the same time 😭🙏💀
1 likeThis entire video is a joke 17:27 THIS WAS THE YOUTUBE UI 3 mounths ago you know when dogpack404 made the video. The question is how can you be so naive about this lmao???
4 likes1:24:27 a mistake huh???
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What dogpack said was 100% true mr beast did run an illegal lottery. See 1:24:27 I wonder why he didn't start the video with this😮😂
0 likes@@Extreme-sj6fx no mr beast did run an illegal lottery this guy just left it untill the end just even though dogpack404 covered it first so the illegal lottery did happen and sloppy is either lying or incompetant to defend a crypto scammer.
0 likesDoesn’t matter if the UI wasn’t faked or not. He still didn’t show the description.
0 likesSomeone didn’t watch the entire video, did they?
0 likes@@NighTMare-gv8gz im saying if you go on the way back machine and take a screenshot of how the ui looked, when the video originally came out it wouldn’t match up with dogpacks video. and thats besides the point, why trip up so hard on one single thing? dogpack has proven that he continues to lie and throw other people under the bus because he was disgruntled that he was fired the way he was. it’s obvious that he was targeting certain people and ignoring facts in order to push a narrative. thats the fucking issue dude
2 likesUse the way back machine to any video on youtube 3 mounths ago and you would see the UI is the exactly what dogpack404 used when created the video he didn't fake anything.
0 likesSo YouTube changed their UI and then changed it back?
1 likecope
5 likesMy biggest takeaway is i absolutely hate hearing that weddle bloke speak. More nasely than a 60yo cobba whose been chugging a 30 pack a day
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@ he also forgot to be funny
1 likethe dude somehow spent all his money on standup.
5 likeshe forgot he was supposed to make money when doing standup.
honestly this video is so wonderfully made, the youtube UI bit was genius
3 likesit looks like you're heavily biased contra-dogpack404 your voice kinda sounds emotional. scumbag debunks scumbag debunks scumbag, where will the cycle end?
2 likesi was fool dogpack and mrbeast are evil i can believe i be tricky by dogpack
1 likeWe need a court case for this one
1 likeWoah
0 likesGet off Mr.Beast meat buddy. We all know he paid you to do it. You just attack Dogpack's character and downplay the allegeations.
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Seeing your gacha profile makes me think you're 11.
1 likeGet off doggy's meat buddy
7 likesHow about you stop glazing dogpack and realize that he was lying as well? Seems hard to handle the truth huh
8 likesGet off dogpack's meat buddy
8 likesYou said this as if it invalidated the whole video. Bro, who cares if he's a glazer, you can't dismiss the evidence just cause he might like MrBeast 😂
15 likesThis is annoying asf, when I said we need both sides, ppl be trying to crucified and say I'm a child who was manipulated, I can't wait to see the hypocrites switch sides, because that's all they do, ppl say they hate Mr beast because they never like him, let's see if he's guilt or innocent, innocent until proven guilty ppl
6 likesThis video needs more views
4 likesMr Beast has spent his entire career helping people, he benefited from it. Dogpack has spent his entire career on revenge and manipulation, he benefited from it. They are both bad, but they are no where near the same.
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Exactly. People are taking this video and saying “yep I knew Jimmy was innocent” when he’s isn’t. It just means that both dogpack and MrBeast aren’t good
2 likesMrBeast definitely needs to be looked into a bit more, but DogPack is on a whole different level. Bro literally tried ruining the lives of other people (the subscriber who won a million dollars, 58, Mack and others) for his own personal gain.
2 likesBoth are terrible people.
2 likesboth of them are evil dogpack lied and mr.beast with beast game problem{i think}
4 likesDamn people have a lot of time huh . This drama is WAY TOO LONG hope people move on . Did he X someone if not some Companies did worse than what he did and no one care....
0 likesWow, just wow
0 likesRaar dat dit niet in me abbonomenten feed zit.
3 likesAugustTheDuck is going to be so pissed to have to make another video on this topic
1 likeYou're a fucking legend dude.
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@@Beesechurger_73 hello
1 like@@RollinGamingTV sup
1 likebese
1 likeDogpack 404 is DONE
4 likesMan I already sense it from the beginning, the entirety of this situation just reeks of spite
0 likesmore slop content, i dont care
3 likesBruh, you admitted on a discord call that you were flown out by mr beast to have these conversations with the employees and mr beast signed off on this. Wtf dude. At least be transparent.
4 likesSoggy cereal... More like soggy brain. Mr.beast work practices are the topic of conversation not a cross examination of Dawson. It cant be a coincidence that him,rosana pansino, coffeezilla, and others brought serious allegations to light about beast crew and how they operate. And looking back on your previous videos you seem like kind of.. a boob, whos audience is children that still think mr.beast is "super cool money guy". But us 30-40 yr old adults are skeptical of ALL you youtubers. Your video was poorly made and talking in that "whiny" voice when quoting others words make you look childish and condescending. It makes me not want to take your video seriously. At least dawson presented his case with conviction and civility. Regardless of what was or wasent true he made one hell of a case and show. where you seem to just...not do that...
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Not at all. Politicians do it all the time. And in a debate having a strong, structured argument is the best way to win favor(even if the opposition is essentially lying/wrong.) but regardless multiple youtubers besides dogpack are making cases. Who all have had strong cases and presented them quite well. If soggy cereal makes another video on another creator I just hope he understands where I'm coming from concerning these exposés and takes a more mature approach.@@romancatholicgameing
1 likeIs it not more childish and immature to only believe the person who talks in a way you like?
5 likesALERT DOGPACK UNLISTED HIS CEO VIDEO
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@@funsyminn what was the reason for unlisting it?
1 likenot deleted just unlisted
1 likeAt 18:00, that is sadly true. Youtube has been removing the likes on some people's clients, saying that it may be caused by extensions (cough cough, ad blockers).
1 likeThis is the not like us of the mrbeast situation
3 likesWill not lie at first I thought this video was dumb and clicked off but came bad and decided to watch it again and hate myself for being closed minded when I shouldn't have and am sorry for it good video for sure and changed my opinion
4 likesyou know the only thing bestbuy cares about on the background check is weather or not you have a history of theft right?
2 likesI am done with this stuff 😭🤦
1 likewho do i believe now ☹️
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@@Polyeurythanewe have all done bad things my friend all humans arent perfect also tbf soggycereal is also talking shi to mrbeast
2 likesDon’t believe anyone. DogPack has done bad. MrBeast has done bad. Soggy has a bias towards MrBeast and someone in the Beast company purposely helped Soggy (via current employee interviews and other info despite the employees having NDAs and not being willing to talk to Coffeezilla) to make this video. No one here is good or innocent.
4 likesJesus ✝
1 likePersonally I don't find the stuff about Weddle incriminating at all it seemed like a joke in his delivery. Sure dogpacks editing might have made it seemed not the case but I think thats just how weddle talks. And ya he did the fake ai voice at the beginning of his video and then clarified it. He wants retention obviously. He's trying to make a living. Its not on him if people click out before hearing the disclaimer.
0 likesI said this and i will say it again jakes word means shit nothing more than shit
1 likeHe silent on everything until now and suddenly he says jimmy knew but then wait how could jake know if jake didn’t also know that kris was a disgusting creature
when that second video came out i knew everything was BS, i already was thrown off from the illegal lottery claim and the other really tiny things, but the second some dude who made 30k a day having to go through a luke warm hot tub and a ice cream machine that is broken compares his experience to a war crime I was like bye
0 likesMAIN SUMMARY(According to the comments cuz ill b honest i dont got time to watch all this)
3 likesIn this video Soggy Cereal says Mrbeast ISNT completely innocent he is still guilty of some things but dogpsck isnt 100% correct about everything he lied about some things so dogpack is NOT a 100% trustworthy source
Conclusion:you shouldn't trust mrbeast or dogpack
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You could trust most of what Mr beast said in his videos
4 likesBanger
1 likeThat being ai is so scary…I definitely believed it
0 likeswhat's even happening anymore
0 likesDogpack both saying they lack safety precautions but rather let them not take precautions durjng challenges is ironic
2 likesDogpack got SO CLOSE to getting…Revenge? but at the last moment, we got him.
1 likeNote: I’m only 30 mins into the video so it would be really funny if I’m completely wrong by the end of the video
I don't trust you Soggy nor DogPack. I don't trust anyone. I want to see and hear what the court has to say.
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@@ahsanahmedbhaila Dogpack was an emotion-driven fool who fumbled that bag and shot himself multiple times with multiple smoking guns. The fact anyone still takes him seriously after how poorly he’s handled shit speaks volumes.
0 likes@@romancatholicgameingyeah tbh even if soggy was paid and had a bias it’s still more factual then dogpack
0 likes@@romancatholicgameing pretend I made a reasonable reply
0 likes@@Ayahuasca98Don't trust the evidence that is proven to exist because it might be paid for. Instead trust the guy with "trust me bro" as his source, and when it's not his source, his source is doctored, out-of-context clips.
5 likesDo people even think anymore?
@@shrishgupta155MrBeast paid for his flight, and commented on this video.
0 likesGets my noggin joggin.
Highly doubt this will end up in court
1 likeNow there is someone with actual brain
2 likesI think that soggy could also be paid by mrbeast to debunk most of the allegations and he provided all the sufficient proofs
More Pegasus is about to make 11 videos out of this
2 likesSo the illeagle lottery never happened?
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It wasn’t illegal but it was still unethical
0 likesOnce but never again.
0 likesNah
2 likes4:51 i laughed at this, thinking you were doing a sarcastic bit about a company that's really old and been out of business for like 14 years or so..
0 likesand then I remembered Blockbuster was the closed company and bestbuy is doing fine lol.
Blud got payed 69 million dollar by mrbeast 🗣️🗣️🗣️
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Bro I am not taking anyone sides .
1 likeNow I think that I will only believe what the court says in future.
I think that soggy could also be paid by mrbeast to debunk most of the allegations and he provided all the sufficient proofs
Hop off the meat of your bf DogPack lil bro
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7 likesi am fucking losing it Slop content isn't for me anymore idk what's happening anymore.
1 likeRussell King Version 2.0
0 likesDid this dude ever watch willymacshow? Someone already made a hit-piece video on Dogpack 404.
0 likesThis is insane
0 likesEvery time you not running, MorePegasus just get closer.
1 likeEvery time you not running, MorePegasus just get closer.
0 likesDrama youtube channels gonna have a field day with this😹😹
0 likesWe owe MrBeast an apology(ish)
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Nah
0 likesWe owe an apology to the employees and contestants that were harassed. Jimmy? Nah.
1 likeNope
1 likeMrBeast meat riddle
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Riddle indeed
0 likesits done
0 likesHeard Mr beast watched this
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what?
1 likeThis dude is gonna better job at responding to Dogpack than Mr.Beast
2 likesYou know what..
1 likeNO, im not believing anyone. It started with him getting exposed, unexposed, and then it will happen again and again.
Im just sticking to natural now.
21:15 i wouldn't call it evil, but there's a serious issue if a company forgets to provide something they explicitly offered. It's like the whole forgetting to donate to the one pilot eye doctor thing. I dont think it makes them evil, but they are definitely extremely irresponsible and incompetent at the VERY thing their business surrounds itself with. From what it seems like, this might be a pattern of behavior, and show that theres some serious issues within the company.
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I want to restate it differently, that I'm not calling Mr beast evil, I'm specifically referring to Mr Beast as a company, and calling them Negligent and having serious internal failures. That's not evil, nor is it explicitly putting blame on Jimmy.
0 likes@@tanvirsourav83 that's REALLY underselling the significance of the mistakes, I doubt most million dollar companies wouldn't properly pay on time for a service they received. It's a crime, they're just lucky the 2 instances of this were nice enough to not report them, and repeatedly tried and getting a response, before bringing it to public attention. And even after that, it took a public backlash before they actually respond to the problem.
0 likes@@tanvirsourav83this comment really minimizes the significance of the issues I brought up. They're not just a consequence of an imperfect company, they're a sign of a dangerous problem within the business hierarchy, particularly in relation to paying people who provide services or resources.
0 likesI mean it's a million dollars company, not everything is going to be perfect
1 likeHey so, THIS IS SO ENTERTAINING I LOVE THIS YT ARC 😭🙏
0 likesWish I could repost this needs to get popular
1 like"The mr. beast situation got BETTER"
0 likesAlso if Dogpack was an ex-employee why is he the only person to reveal the allegations, several other people left the team and were against MrBeast but never mentioned the allegations, and one dude was literally rambling about random stuff and yet never mentioned a single allegation.🤔
3 likesWe found MR BEAST lawyer and he wasn’t even payed to do it😂
1 likeThe part with Garrett is horseshit. Who feels "used" and has their personal life and financial stability ruined because of that one clip in the dogpack video with a voice filter over it which he says is crappy but even listening to both side by side I can't tell it's him beyond the voice being obviously male. If he was already an ex-employee at that point how could that have possibly impacted him financially and why is him having manic episodes and losing relationships and close friends in any way related to the dogpack video? None of it makes any sense and since you don't provide proof that Garrett IS the voice in the dogpack video, why should I believe anything he has to say in the first place?
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Illegal lottery #2 clearly wasn't "disproven" you say it yourself, it's shady and scummy and there's no "proof" that Beast didn't reward random unpaying chat members. Since you couldn't find one like you could for some of the other claims it seems strange to say there's no reason to believe it didn't happen, not being able to find anyone who recieved a reward actually supports the claim that unpaid entries didn't recieve reward consideration. Dogpack didn't definitively claim that no chat members recieved prizes either and you can't support your claim that they did so I'd mark that one off as questionable.
2 likesRegarding Mack and the $800,000 clip, just because he wasn't the only one staying in the mansion that doesn't mean it wasn't his permanent residence while he was working there. They could just as easily have been roommates god knows the place is big enough. Obviously since Mack is a plant the sob story he gives in the Beast video can't be taken seriously, I sincirely doubt he gave $800,000 to his financially struggling friends, if he even has any. I don't find dogpacks editing in that part to be misleading, even if he left in Mack's sob story it wouldn't change the fact that Mack is a plant so what he says is irrelevant, he only used the clip he edited down in order to save time in the video and make a joke.
2 likesThe Jake part is also horseshit. Obviously Beast didn't literally commit a war crime or Jake would've brought him up on federal charges, he wasn't "forced" to do the bunker video but he was coerced into doing it and even when he expressed the desire to leave he was continued to be coerced, which while not a war crime is still fucking disgusting behaviour. The war crime joke was obviously used to emphasize the harsh conditions and mental state Jake had to go through during the bunker video filming, I didn't realize some people were actually taking it seriously but that's on them, not dogpack.
6 likesHoly shit, this is a perfect example of the saying "Don't believe everything you see online"
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Yup, people really should research things themselves if they want to talk about an issue that matters to them, and make sure to see what all the sides are saying. And than use critical thinking and introspection to see where you stand yourself. But many people continue to fall back into the dual bias
0 likes+1 algorithm boost
2 likes:( 1:01:48
0 likesMorepegasus is closer to being Scrooge McDuck rn
3 likesVideo incorrect and flat out wrong. Didn't cover the raccoon being a paid actor controversy. Do better.
2 likesDog pack glazers having no comprehension skills in these comments
2 likesSoggy Cereal: "Before I talk about the MrBeast allegations, here is a word from my sponsor: MrBeast."
2 likesim so confused about this situation atp i dont understand anything 😭😭
0 likesthis is crazy
1 likeno way this isnt on trending
1 likeI’m going to keep on commenting for the algorithm 😂
3 likesI’m going to keep on commenting for the algorithm 😂
3 likesI’m going to keep on commenting for the algorithm 😂
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Keep going then
2 likesI’m going to keep on commenting for the algorithm 😂
3 likesI’m going to keep on commenting for the algorithm 😂
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Every minute 😂
0 likesAnd people thought I was wrong for being one of the few people defending jimmy
0 likesPLEASE CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG BUT The first thing i noticed with this video is that Dogpack404 "recorded without his knowledge" I looked up where Dawson French "Dogpack404" lives and it says North Carolina. North Carolina has a one party consent law where HE only needs to agree to record the conversation not BOTH and DOES NOT have to inform him. Garrett says it "hurt him financially and mentally" which he does not prove at all and cant really be used because 1. Dogpack404 never disclosed who this employee was 2. he used a voice changer over it and 3. maybe im dumb but how does this affect his friendships talking about Delaware at mrbeast when its just "gossip" and nothing is "true"... Idk why he keeps saying it wasnt consensual when it dosent matter Logan Paul's manager got mad he was recorded by Coffeezilla when he lives in Texas and has the same law where he does not need to inform you hes recording. When he talks about the Warcrime joke Jake Weddle im pretty sure KNOWS it was a joke but he didint actually know it was apart of the Geneva Convention if that makes sense which is why he says "which turns out to not be a joke." Idk but to me that just seems like he looked it up and was like "oh shit that is a war crime he wasnt joking" yk? Then the definition of a Warcrime of Sleep deprivation it says its defined as torture and "is ALSO prohibited to the treatment of trainees" what i get from that is it dosent matter if weddle is or is not a "detainee" it is still a form of fucking torture that is a warcrime. Thats just my opinion for the Warcrime section. Yes I agree Dogpack404 is fucked up for the illegal lottery 3 and many other things mentiond the cp etc. I agree Dogpack sometimes does act fucking stupid I watched Ludwig's stream live when Dogpack was in his chat and they got on a discord call it was like a circus it was so funny It did lead me to think hes not as smart as he claims because anything ludwig asked he said "im under NDA" and called Ludwig "controlled opposition" I didint expect to see Ludwigs stream clips here lol. Those are just some things I noticed everything else I agree with him and dont have anything against. Mr Beast is fucked up for things said by Dogpack and Dogpack is fucked up aswell, But Ive watched the Coffeezilla video and there is alot more you can criticize Mr beast for that his company is shady and shitty maybe not himself but his company for surely is.
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without his moral consent lil bro ?? think about it like if the age of consent somewhere is 14 and a 20 year old guy gets with a 14 year old, it's legally fine in the country (ew) but not morally at all, but it will cause repercussions to both parties
0 likesI read like 0.001 percent of that
0 likesBro put the phone down and like go outside, I beg you playa
4 likesI find it shocking that people take Dogpack's side on LITERALLY EVERYTHING he's done without question. Obviously Mr. Beast isn't a good guy and has a lot to answer for, but Dogpack isn't doing this for any altruistic reasons and is clearly willing to straight up lie (whether by omission or straight up telling false narratives) to further what he only sees as catharsis for being let go.
11 likesThe reason why most people believed dogpack, (including me) because it’s true… until proven guilty unless the claims were outlandish and obvious lies. In which, to most of us, we’re not clearly fake. I’m glad you backed your stuff up with evidence debunking dog packs lies. Although, there are still claims that dogpack has made or found out to have been true. Like how the gambling may not be “illegal” but it’s the fact that he has gambling in the first place. Which is pretty scummy, but I can’t help but respect mr beast for getting that bag. And the AI in the videos, or faking some philanthropy videos with CGI. It’s just more like why? Why make it seem like it’s worse than it actually is? Is it because it’s more engaging? Using CGI in his videos is fine… but makes him feel as less credible as a youtuber.
1 likegiving this video to drama youtube channels is the equivalent of giving a homeless guy a $100 bill
1 likeall the people in the mr. beast situation are just blurred together in my brain I can't remember anyone, Dogpack and Pegasus are seperate people? what do you mean?
0 likesIf you look up dogpack this video comes first
1 likeIdk who to trust anymore
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Same
0 likesimagine earning views by lieing about other creator
0 likesThe mrbeast glazing is insane, bro clearly hates dogpack for uncorrelated reasons
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And dogpack fans call beast fans the “dick riders”
0 likesThe ignorant assumption is insane, bro clearly doesn't have the capability of watching the damn video before commenting about it because you're not comfortable accepting the fact that dogpack is a fraud as well.
13 likeslil bro has no comprehension skills
13 likesLil bro cant handle the truth
13 likesGreat
1 likethis is why u dont trust anyth u see on the internet... nothing is real and most ppl dont actually give a shit if its even reliable and js milk the situation.. honestly the best thing to do is not give an actual fuck abt all this dumb drama and like GO OUTSIDE 😭😭
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If that’s the best thing to do, then why are you commenting?
0 likesNot responding to anything is the worst allegation so far
1 likeI swear to god you guys believe everything you see online. You probably believed Jimmy, then dogpack, then this guy. Stop caring, it makes your life a whole lot easier.
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Fr i dont get why people care so much about this
0 likesNah. If everything was fake. Then why hasn't Mrbeast Responded? (If it is in the video i aint watching it) and there is still multiple more Allegations.
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If he responded would you take this at face value? You know the answer
2 likesHe responded by lawsuit
1 likeBro has been making moves in the company to change things, plus he did respond on X, it just wasn’t the response y’all wanted.
1 like@@CoolerFriezasBro find it urself look it up tf
0 likes@@ethanthechickenprotector5892time stamp.
0 likesHe did
5 likesCan’t wait in 3 months when we find out he is also a fraud 😀😀😀
2 likesThis might be video of the year
0 likesThe internet is full of sheeps that can easily get manipulated. This might be video of the year
1 likeThanks soggy cereal, now i can watch mrbeast video, despite the lunchly and ava, i can watch it again, thank you
4 likesMrbeast finished in me
0 likesDo NOT let Morepegasus on this
1 likeCan't wait for more of these on December
0 likesDogpack glazers have nothing to say other than you must be paid off by jimmy 😂 they cant accept the fact that they were dumb enough to be manipulated by fraudpack 💀
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he probably was paid by mrbeast though but it might not be true that he's biased.
0 likes@@whosezan7886his podcast with chudlogic recently
0 likes@@maadkidproof?
0 likesMr beast company did pay for his flights which is concerning atleast
2 likes😭
0 likesFr
5 likesThe envy 8one4s on folks these days. The lack of life experience is astonishing.
0 likesI feel so bad for garret man he’s a really good guy and was manipulated by a guy he thought was his friend 😢
0 likesmore content for pegasus bro is eating good every day 💀💀💀💀💀💀
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😭😭 i hate that guy so much
3 likeshow about the thing that mr beast didn't pay for the surgery of the "cure blindness" or something like that? 🤔
1 likewell, if you still thinking "Mr Beast is a good guy" after the "philanthropy" that supposed to be "the most positive side" of Beast got accused, I don't know what to say to you anymore 😂😂
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He covers that in this video, did you not watch it? They got the money, and it was an issue from the 3rd party they used who was supposed to send them the money.
7 likesConclusion, they both suck
2 likesMight be more cringe, ngl. In short, made a huge mistake by interviewing the Mr Beast team
0 likesDogpack fans can't conceptualize that their E daddy is scumbag like Jimmy
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Gemmy pfp
1 likeDogg what
0 likesI know who to hire if I ever get in trouble... I love you soggy bro this is awesome
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0 likesbro you are so desperate for attention. btw. you look like a cross between Sid from ice age, and an inbred neanderthal.
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@ fr
0 likesWhen your only come back is insulting the other person, you know you lost
1 likeThis is some bitter middle schooler energy
1 likeInsults don’t disprove or prove anything
0 likesok buddy 💀🙏
5 likesIf Soggy is a neanderthal, then dogpack must be equivalent to a blobfish
12 likesi think both of them pour milk first instead of cereal
0 likesWho came here from Dylan Sirius👇
3 likesi dont even know which side to choose at thi point
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Both r untrustworthy mr beast is cooked regardless it's jus some of his allegations r false
0 likesclose enough welcome back idubbbz
2 likesLive by the sword, die by the sword. It's ironic
0 likesincredible
0 likesThis video is garbage? If this was any bit true Mr beast wouldn't have deleted and scrubbed all his discord messages this shit is wild people are still backing mr beast to me man he clearly knew what was going on
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how does one thing compare to the multitude of truth? Beast can be wrong about scrubbing the servers but can still be in the right in other situations. You’re mad dumb 🥺 it doesn’t make him completely innocent but it does clear his name about a lot of allegations.
6 likes@@cheesemanthe2nd no. I just think the Kris Tyson situation should've ended and people should stop talking about it.
0 likes@@StummyTicklePicklereally? You think he's just fine and dandy?
0 likesThe video is not bad the entire point is calling both dogpack and mr beast bad and dog pack isnt perfect hes not calling mr beadt good hes calling dogpack bad
0 likesHe still shouldn't have been cancelled over it though. I'm pretty sure everybody already moved on
3 likesWe can have pink guy but this is good
0 likesThank you bro ❤
0 likesI knew it dogpack is suspicius af since the begining
1 likeIt's pathetic how much effort you're putting to cover up for an obvious Criminal hopefully they paid you something to ruin your reputation cuz that what you've done
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Found the clown
0 likes42:29
3 likesJust wondering what criminal thing did he do cause this video disproves every allegation with ease?
2 likes*With one exception at the very end
Bruh just watch the video ffs
13 likesHe doesn't like mrbeast either. He just saying mrbeast AND dogpack are untrustworthy
14 likesIf you need to keep one thing in mind as well is that you can't let this distract you from the fact that Mr Beast is still going full grifter now with KSI and Logan Paul and instead of responding to all these allegations as false as they are
4 likesHe went to India to try and get a new fanbase that's already showing how fucking toxic they can be
Dogpack being a shitty human being doesn't take from the fact that Jimmy while not nearly as bad as it was said, is still a money-hungry scumbag that scammed his audience with crypto and is willing to tag along with human trash
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these allegations have nothing to do with KSI and Logan Pual. This is all about the things that happened before they teamed up. It takes ALOT of the facts when this guy has more viable evidence than dog packs videos, and secondly, they don’t have to make a public announcement when they are actively developing and fixing their mistakes silently. We all know this doesn’t make Mr.Beast a good guy, but it definitely doesn’t dismiss the evidence in this video. not everyone is a beast dick rider, some people just can’t stand false accusations being spread under the guise of “journalism” or “reporting”
0 likes@@BGwxlf Oh ye I know
0 likesI'm just saying it for the people in the comments who are immediately jumping ship to defend him without any thought cuz no comprehension
Hes not defending mr beast hes just saying mrbeast and dog pack are not good
2 likesWhat if Dogpack makes a video called “I worked for Dogpack404 hes a liar”
1 likeDebunks the allegations ❌
6 likesJust talks shit about him ✅
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MorePegasus confirmed some allegations are fake. Looks like I’m winning…
0 likes@@Paladont Wow, really? Please explain
0 likesAlso it’s 6 not 5
@@mustakaci6036 Chat did you read the one essay text which takes LESS than an hour?
0 likesChat did he watch the 1 hour video?
2 likes@@AntiUttp625 you tried to list 7 and the last two you listed are both a variation of you saying "not EVERYTHING was debunked though..."
1 likeSo, out of 18 allegations, you had problems with 5 and you are wrong about those too
@@Paladont There are clearly many more things I left out, and I admit, Dogpack DID exaggerate lots of things.
0 likesBut there are TONS of undeniable proof here that they didn’t debunk in DogPack’s video
@@AntiUttp625 I wrote a huge thing and YouTube deleted it, but I do want to add one more comment just to say that you claimed none of the allegations were debunked in your first comment and now in your response you admit that nearly everything is debunked, so great job
0 likes@@AntiUttp625 actually, let me go through all of your points.
0 likes1. You're misrepresenting the argument. No one EVER said there was no CGI. Mr. beast had admitted to using CGI for a very long time. The point was always that Dogpack claimed that parts of the videos were fake and CGI was used to replace real stunts. This was a lie.
To make this point clearly and make you seem like a mouth breathing idiot, Mr. beast blew up the entire earth and many people in his videos using CGI. Does that mean his videos are fake? Obviously not.
Second: You didn't say enough to even make a point here.
Third: You say "they don't debunk it enough" okay, what does that even mean? It's debunked or it's not.
Fourth: You say it was rigged due to a PR problem. No it wasn't rigged, the men could have still have won. There's no way to know before hand who would have won and the reasoning was explained and you admit it wasn't done out of mal intent.
Sixth: if 90% of the claims that Mr. Beast's intentionally fakes his content are lies, what does that tell you about the 10%? That it was likely just a mistake. And if it wasn't, someone would have leaked that information online by now. They're blind claims.
Seventh: Yeah, so if someone maliciously lies about literally hundreds of things, you shouldn't default to believing them on everything else, which is exactly what's happening here.
Everything dogpack has said needs to be fully re-evaluated from the ground up. You're coming at this from the position that Beast is guilty until proven innocent, which is the wrong way to look at things
@@PaladontGreat question. So glad it’s asked.
4 likesIf you don't feel like reading huge mounds of text, don’t read it. But if you’re going to fight back without seeing the truth or at least a valid POV by reading this, I automatically win this argument. I wrote it because you asked why I don't agree with this guy, and what hasn't been debunked yet. But if you can, then here it is.
First: The CGI: Soggy Cereal and Stucky are using the tactics DogPack did to just assume it’s not CGI, without providing any proof whatsoever. Jimmy DOES use CGI. It’s clearly in his Nuclear Bunker video when he took a side angle picture, and the other videos were also not proven.
Second: The Text Messages: Similar story as the CGI, as SoggyCereal provides no concrete proof to it.
Third: The Interview With Jake Weddle: He just says it’s fake with no proof. Now, I'm not saying there's no way this along with the last 2 points can be true, but they don't debunk it enough, and most are too lazy to catch that and skip on it.
Fourth: The Boys Vs Girls: It clearly WAS rigged due to a PR problem. I’ll admit, this one’s 50/50 due to the Covid thing, but Jimmy still rigged it. By putting a red X, soggy FIRMLY states it wasn’t rigged at all, but we all know there clearly WAS bias, with the Rubiks Cube thing. It wasn’t right what Jimmy did, not doing anything because of the Covid, but what else could he do?
Fifth: CP allegations: He’s saying Jimmy did nothing wrong with Chris. He did say Chris did do bad, but that Jimmy had no CP involved.
Sixth: 10 Minute Video: He does NOT debunk all of the DogPack allegations on that one. He just shows one image; and that’s it. Nothing else in it. He ignores the guy touching the laser, the valve, and other stuff. This is not just DogPack that made it up, you can actually watch the videos and see them for yourself. Another fake from him.
Seventh: Soggy Cereal said he didn't have time for EVERYTHING, and even openly admitted to leaving out crucial stuff due to reasons of time. How can you prove one's innocence by doing that? Sure, he did explain SOME points fully, but not ALL of them. I know he can definitely do it though.
CONCLUSION: Soggy is overgrazing Jimmy here, while Stucky is glazing him to infinity, more than any glazer out there ever with EVERYTHING being a glaze video about Jimmy, twisting everything to his side, even if it has concrete proof, there is concrete proof he isn’t innocent either. Jimmy was deleting comments, meaning he was clearly trying to hide things, and went on as normal, faking dislikes and so many things, not learning at all.
I’m not saying DogPack is innocent, and MrBeast certainly isn’t innocent either, far from it. DogPack blew things over the top in his expose video, attacking him too much and exaggerating things that are clearly not true. And Jimmy also did bad stuff, which has been concretely proven, if you watch the MrBeast videos, so not everything is twisted by DogPack.
Overall, this gave DogPack TONS of explaining to do, and I hope he does it. I do not like MrBeast, I do not like DogPack, and I CERTAINLY do not like Stucky, the #1 biggest glazer of all time, not admitting ANYTHING wrong about Jimmy and trying the best he can to turn everything to Jimmy's complete innocence in all directions.
So yeah, that's my opinion, and all sides have undeniable proof on them, so DO NOT judge too quick. But, for now, I'll wait till DogPack responds…
He debunked most of them and called dogpack and mrbeast bad people
3 likesWhich allegation didn't get debunked here?
14 likesIt's paid disinformation
0 likesAli koca
19 likesGuys we gotta go owe ali koca an apology
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No, the dude is still a scumbag, a creep, threatening to sue a minor, being rude to his fans, and just being a shitty person in general
1 likeNo we don't, that mf was doing nothing but throwing insults at dogpack. Low iq rebuttal. Mrbeast is still shady, just not as shady as dogpack portrayed him to be.
1 like"philantrophy".. gtfo!
1 likeIdk all of what Dawson lied and misrepresented, no doubt some things. But I know for sure I do notttt trust you
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You don't have to trust him with anything, unlike dogpack. He literally shows the evidence which you can't be bothered to watch.
3 likesWhy do u not trust soggy he was the one who exposed airrack too
5 likesThis opening feels like something straight outta Idubbz’s content cop.
1 likeGarrett da goat
0 likesi guess he was suicidal
0 likesIf idubbbz and maxmoefoe had a kid:
0 likesBro got the syndrome backstory
2 likesPeople are using your video to make videos using your research its absurd, why not just watch your video
0 likesmr beast left a comment that said "thank god not another baseless accusation video" and deleted it.
13 likesBro def did all the shit dogpack is accusing
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@@DDArtsArts are you a bot? who writes comments like this
0 likes@@DDArtsArts yeah If I was him I wouldn’t comment ever again but he is
0 likes@@cringe__6040 Or, bro was probably instantly bombarded by clones of cringe__6040 and decided to cut off the heat.
0 likes@@DDArtsArts if it truly was baseless he would have kept that comment up.
0 likesWhat kinda logic is that
0 likesYou are the reason why he deleted it 🤭
3 likesgod damn i can only imagine in a month theres gonna be a soggy cereal exposed and then THAT dude will get exposed and its a long line of
1 like😡🔫🤬🔫🤬🔫🤬🔫🤬🔫🤬🔫….. JESUUUUS
Paid disinformation. Yawn .
1 likeGo ahead and pretend that Mr Beast is a good guy. L0zer we todd
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Hes calling mr beast and dogpack bad people
2 likesyou gusy saying people glazes MrBeast but yall also glaze on dogpack
6 likeswatch the video.
18 likeshe pretty sure says he isnt defending mrbeast
villain vs villain 😂😂😂
1 likejake weddel and the war crime "joke" was about them faking the videos when they are in them but when jake was in the vid they couldnt fake and turn off the lights for him .... youre kinda going around the topic here soggy
0 likesthe first time i'm actually mad i didn't get a midroll ad
0 likesWhat about Mr beast looking at the shadman poster years ago? He knew that Tyson had that. Maybe not a pedophile but definitely knew that he was weird. Maybe he thought it was just edgy, and there was probably no way he knew about shadman. But still… did he ever question Tyson’s poster?
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He isn't defending mrbeast. He talking about that dogpack is untrustworthy
1 likeMrbeast is still very scummy and bad so uhh
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@ItsTheRemixaa saying womp womp in November? Really? You definitely watch yt shorts
0 likes@rodg79 womp womp
0 likes@@ItsTheRemixaa no like that comma was just unnecessary
0 likes@@rodg79 because that's how you actually write, Goofy. Go to school and listen to the teacher
0 likes@@ItsTheRemixaa why would you put a comma there goofy
0 likes@@rodg79 yeah maybe next time, listen to the video goofy
0 likesyeah he says that in the video, he's not defending Mr beast really he's just dogging on dogpack
5 likesI posted this before I watched the vid so
0 likeswhat is even going on anymore
4 likesI miss content cop 😞
0 likesAs being a citizen of Delaware I take this as a big win
1 likeWhen Jimmy makes 1$ lawyer vs 1000000$ lawyer, he should sue Dogpack 😂
2 likespegasus finna eat good for the rest of the year
5 likesdude what the hell is even this drama anymore soggy help soggyyyyyyy!
1 likeThat Content Cop intro… I miss it man.
1 likeWere you paid by Mr beast?
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He isn't defending mrbeast
7 likesMorePegasus is finished
1 likei want to eat cereal
0 likesI trust Nixon way more over dogpack
0 likesI have been sent here by the one and only Dylan
0 likesi give up trying to learn this stuff
0 likesMr Beast is an lier. Dawson is an lier. EVERYONE is getting caught up in the crossfire.
1 like1:20:19 saving for later
0 likesCant wait for the big boi “I never trusted dogpack” people to come here just like those saying they didnt trust jimmy back in dogpacks video. They all just lookin for an echo chamber
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I mean, I actually never trusted him. I immediately categorised his videos as a generic attempt to cancel MrBeast, as there have been many others in the past. Even if YouTube kept recommending me his videos, I never clicked on them.
0 likesknew it all along.
0 likesMrBeast can do no evil
How are videos talking about your video getting more views.
0 likesHey Soggy Cereal will you also be exposed for gambling my college funds away for a good cause
1 likecontent cop glowed up fr
0 likesMan, maybe I should start a youtube drama channel to get some of that chedda
1 likeThe first minute just makes me feel like now someone else is trying to jump on the bangwagon of hate for views.
i genuinely wonder how many people will be on their copium because they were on the mr beast hate bandwagon for so long
1 likeThis hurts my brain. Who agrees with me?
0 likesIt’s insane to me that people didn’t look into any of dog packs claims
3 likesI was just about to comment that you should change the title because it would get more views but you did
1 like“i got exposed by soggy cereal, he’s smarter than me”
0 likesI apologize for not being subscribed sooner u the goat
0 likes"The DogPack404 situation is [X]"
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moist critical video just dropped
0 likessoggy if you change the thumbnail one more time im gonna be onto you
0 likesComing from Dylan Zitkus
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I saw the first part but forgot to watch the rest until i saw dylan zitkus
0 likesThe description 😭
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lol
0 likesWhatch them all be in on it and pull a nicadoavocado “Am always 3 steps ahead” video 😂
1 likei knew the alleged cp was a far stretch and found it stupid everyone was jumping on train that yeah alleged is same doing the actual crime, so thanks fo rhte video confirming my stance
0 likesMrBeast telling Dylan to watch this video INSTEAD of making one on YouTube is suspicious. If he did NOTHING WRONG why didn’t he make an apology on YouTube and why is he RECOMMENDING your video instead of MAKING ONE???
3 likesAlso, where's the crypto scam, Lunchly controversy (Moldy Cheese and Turkey Stack Ems missing), MrBeast faking his Philanthropy (In Video and in Sponsors Link: https://youtu.be/RRUoleMTkBI?si=FvbhRVSF8ZnNVNqH), Faking Signatures, Contestants Abused on Beast Games Set, MrBeast changing scores with Rosanna Pansino, and MrBeast collaborating with Logan Paul and KSI who did terrible things (Like Logan Paul in Japan, KSI Crypto Scam)?
Also I've been a subscriber for years and HAVEN'T Received anything from MrBeast but I see his employees in his videos pretending they got an invite meanwhile I STILL didn't get anything from him.
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@@ViktorL595 the explanation of Jimmy recommending this video is pretty simple: he's paying this guy to defend him. Evident by the fact that mrbeast himself commented on this video..... then later deleted it because he knew people would figure him out.
1 like1 Million Dollar Lawyer Spotted
1 likeCan we just decide every big youtuber is a horrible person at this point
0 likesi need to issue an apology to mr beast
3 likesanyone else coming from dylan zitkus
4 likesI thought it was the real idubbbz for a second
0 likesRemember lads, both of them can be bad. Dont just take a side blindy, if u finna be a hater, hate equally 😌
0 likesWhat the fuck is going on
0 likesStay neutral and stay winning
0 likesNow we just need Dogpack to respons to this and you to respons to that for infinite contact
0 likesI cant fucking trust anyone at this point
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@@ZiggityZeke well 2025 you def won't trust anyone
0 likesI don't know what to think no more man
0 likesAva Chris Tyson
0 likesWell 2024 is the year that everything is coming out drake Diddy Mr beast
0 likesI knew it and I never once stood on DogPack's side.
0 likesbtw i think you're missing out on quite a few accusations. like the one about female contestants not being provided with adequate hygiene products and being made fun of for it
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Watch the video he says he is not covering beast games
0 likesHe not defending mrbeast. He pretty much saying "don't trust dogpack either"
0 likesThis is a well made video. Too many people see this as a black and white issue
0 likessomething about dogpack seemed like an attention seeking, hypocritical asshole
0 likestbh i think at the end of the day, mrbeast's challenge type content very often gets into the territory of "how desperate are people for money" and sometimes that gets pretty depressing
0 likesThe amount that this guy thoroughly waterproofed his argument is insane. Take for example at 44:09 where he shows a screenshot of a fake tweet from DogPack404 for less than 3 seconds but still puts a disclaimer at the bottom telling the viewer that "This is a fake tweet for comedic purposes". I don't see DogPack404 saying that "Half of my argument is baseless slander for profiting purposes"
3 likesNow we are going to get some other channel feeding off of dockpack 404 or him himself exposing you for your "lies" and the cycle will repeat
1 like(someone hire this guy as a detective for a million dollars, he deserves it)
The DogPack situation is INSANE!
0 likesim no lawyer but surely theres more than enough for a defamation case atp
0 likesI don’t trust you, I don’t trust dogpack, I definitely don’t trust mrbeast, in terms of this video the entire video wasn’t really helping mrbeast at all. just fighting dogpack. the entire thing about working with logan paul which is a known scammer that still has a platform, and a crybaby. ion trust mrbeast and I don’t really like the cgi he uses.
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Why not trust soggy
0 likesCan’t wait for the chadcat video
3 likesIma be honest this MrBeast/DogPack404 farming has gone on far enough just everybody and their grandma has seen these videos. Tbh i dont really care anymore.i still like your videos and i do want the trues to come out but the farming MUST stop.
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This is independent work not content farming
0 likesNow we gotta wait for dogpack404 to respond hope it doesn’t take as long
0 likesDogpack404 Has A Sleeper Build.
0 likesI could already here Pegasus making 40 more videos
1 likeare you gonna address the mrbeast crypto scams on coffeezilla soon?
0 likesYe
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Ye
0 likesThe goat ye
0 likesYe
0 likesSomeone needs to say sorry to Ali koka.
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Nah, he still deserves that L
0 likesFR
3 likesBruh this video should not exist because we all know that Mr Beast is fucked up and same with Ava but if people disagree like this guy then there stupid brain washed fuck shows 💀
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The vid shows dog pack and mr beast are bad not just mr beast
0 likes... So disinformation is okay so long as you agree with it? Is that what you are saying?
7 likesKeep in mind, I'm no Mr. Beast defender, but if someone is falsely accusing anyone of literal WAR CRIMES, then they deserve to be called out just as much as the person they are accusing.
I don’t even know what to believe anymore 😭😭
0 likesI was confused about this
0 likes"I worked with dogpack404 hes a fraud" ahh
0 likesLooks like the dog's been packed
1 likelittle bit late but, thanks for doing the investigation that noone ask for, who will be exposed next, all this exposed videos make sick
0 likesThe dogpack404 fanboy's are really coping hard in these comments.
1 likeDylanzitkus
2 likesAli koca was right all along
4 likesIt seems like there are legitimate criticisms about Mr. Beast that he needs to respond to but Dog pack really just threw fake accusations at Mr. Beast mixed in with real ones. The problem is that all these nothing burger and flat-out fake accusations about mr beast makes the real ones looks like fake ones too. Dogpack should have just done research and just stuck with the ones he had proof on but NOPE he needs clout.
5 likesI mentioned this on Dogpack’s OG video and I’m glad to see the hiring manager mention this, but as someone who has previously worked a sales position in a popular retail store, the whole “no doesn’t mean no” is VERY common in sales training to simply say “find ways to make the sale work for everyone, don’t get discouraged”.
1 likeWhat the fuck is going on?
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WTFIGO - Bo Burnham.mp3
0 likesI'm pretty sure Jake Weddle wasn't intending on misleading anyone
1 likebro shut yo biz as up these are all money hungry ghouls
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Yah but why u hating on soggy?
3 likesWhat tf is even happening rn
0 likesNow dogpack is in the thick of it
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Everybody knows
2 likesSoggy at 54:47 I think it would've been nice to let us, the viewers know about it but instead they kept it a secret and lied to everyone and I doubt there was a lot of public information about it too, As dogpack404 said he's not an "investigator" But I do think they're both in the wrong I'm not siding with anyone here just stating my opinion
0 likesAnyone else notice how mr beast commented then deleted his comment lmao?
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Nah but I seen a notif from Dylan zitkus and Mr beast had sent it to him
0 likesMore pegasus rn: MR BEAST IS OVER, MR BEAST IS DONE, HES DONE, HES FINISHED, HES COOKED, ITS OVER, ITS FINNALY OVER, ITS JOEVER, MR BEAST IS COOKED, DOCKPACK IS DONE DOGPACK IS COOKED, DOGPACK IS FINISHED
2 likesthe funny thing are the people in the comments still talking about how terrible Mr beast is because... uhhh umm because he is!
1 liketheir mistake of putting Mr. Beast on this god-like pedestal means even doing things everyone does or honest mistakes still can't just be honest mistakes or non malicious. they must be because he is evil. he does do bad things, every single YouTuber does. they do it because they are all attention whores. without exception. there is no content creator who is not. because it's why they do what they do, to be seen and noticed. Your expectations of them should start there and you're far less likely tobe disappointed. it's sad we investigate stuff like this more than we do the person we elect to office.
Oh how the tables have turned...
0 likesThe question is, who is winning?
3 likesIf Jimmy/Mr.Beast could’ve just immediately responded to the first set of allegations that DogPack’s made in his first video, then this whole drama wouldn’t happen in the first place!
I feel like both sides are at fault at this point 🤷♂️
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I think Jimmy purposefully tried to ignore the claims to not give them any attention, which a bastard like DogPack definitely doesn’t deserve.
0 likesnice, but now we need a content cop on Soggy Cereal.
1 likei'm sorry, but we gotta :D
Watched through the whole video, thanks for doing this extensive investigation to correct misinformation.
0 likesThis video made me subscribe! Nice work man!
0 likesGuys, I dont know what is real anymore, and it scares me
1 likeI learned something important from this, never believe something so easily online skeptisize everything
1 like18:24 youtube is testing out removing likes now so uh people will believe it more now
1 like"DOGPACK GOT EXPOSED"
2 likes"MRBEAST IS GOOD!?"
"DOGPACK JUST ENDED HIS CAREER"
so is MrBeast actually a bad person?
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@@arielperez3613 oh well that's true
0 likes@@LauroArturoAguirre MrBeast and dogpack
0 likes@@arielperez3613 who and who?
0 likesThey’re both bad
0 likes@@redmaple3432 oh thanks!
0 likesHe still knew about Tyson, did crypto scams (per Coffeezilla), had questionable involvement in the Beast Games drama, and censored his comments and videos, so he’s still not a good person. He just isn’t a total creep nor is he totally irredeemable.
7 likesI was wondering what happened to that guy after he didn’t upload for a while
1 likeEdit 1: 20 minutes in, I feel completely stupid
Man the internet is so terrible these days. I just wanna go back to being annoyed because they added jetpacks to call of duty
1 likebro no matter how many times we get liars exposing people, the internet will always still believe random rumors spread by even the worst accounts 😭
3 likesNotice how this has less views than Dogpack404s vid? thats cause people like shitting on people above all else. Thanks for the amazing video.
3 likesMr. Beast teaming up with two crypto scammers who've been exposed by Coffeezilla while also being under investigation by Coffeezilla for crypto is still...
2 likesMore and more idiots will milk this to death huh
0 likesCan someone give me a list of allegations and accusations he didn't lie about so I know what mr Beast still has to answer for lol
0 likesthis aint gonna end. They gonna expose this video then expose the video that exposed this video then expose the video that exposed the video that exposed this video. 😭
0 likesSo apparently Mr beast and dog pack both suck
2 likesthis series of events has been a RIDE, wow.
0 likesmonkeh
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How have you got 480k subs and your videos have only got like 100 views what
0 likesGood journalism
0 likesOn the note of the “No does not mean no” policy, I have to agree with Kara, it has been around long before they put it down on paper.
0 likesI work in call centres mostly, and especially in sales/outbound, you’re taught that no doesn’t mean no *in that context*, it’s not about pushing people’s boundaries or making them consent to things they don’t want to.
Basically how I would frame it to a newbie who’s about to start making cold calls is like this: they might say no, but if they’re still on the phone, you still have an opportunity to make a sale.
Is cold calling scummy? You make your own decision on that. Twisting that in the way they did? really fucking scummy, no two ways about it.
Dammit the mrbeast drama lore is confusing now what is this kingdom hearts
1 like2:36 thats not slander i resent that, slander is spoken…
0 likesin print its libel
ok the one of thing people need to understand is that people are so stupid that they cant even understand that your doing the same as him, making a 1 hour long video because of your own agenda, every youtuber who deals in drama is either a piece of shit a pussy a hypocrite a bitch or just straight ass money hungry freaks or all those by default, its very clear and people will just be stupid asf man.
0 likeswatch all the commentary youtubers now hop on mr beasts meat
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0 likes21:45 so a serving size of 43g hersheys is being compared to TWO serving sizes mr beast chocolates? Nope. It says feastables is just 60g NOT 80g which would be 2 servings.
1 likeSo you are 20grams short off a double serve size.
Just another example of why you're a pos.
You are aware most of the fans and people watching are underage, and you still have no guilt to lie to their faces even after all this!
one minute in and I already love it hope to god it keeps this classic energy
0 likesI don't know what to believe anymore
0 likesI haven't finished the video yet, and I'm only 41 minutes in, but I'm just going to say something that may or may not be unrelated. I can't help but be unsettled at this dogpack guy. People say Jimmy's eyes are soulless and empty, but have some of you taken a good look at this guy? Whenever he talks, it's exactly how people describe how Jimmy looks. I'm no psychiatrist, believe me. But I think I'm empathetic enough to feel the "vibe" of a guy. And yeah, in my opinion, and based on what I see, his eyes are just as soulless as Jimmy's. But hey, I'm just here to watch, so treat this as an observation.
0 likesBro, @21:33, you muppet they are not the same size when you swapped the chocolate bar. You are worse than anyone involved in this whole drama. You are the only one that put their hand up to deceive the public. You should be ashamed
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@@slash4660 No, listen properly. He said dogpack incorrectly used a single serving of hersheys against a double of feastables, then he pulls out a 60g feastables bar implying its double the amount of chocolate. Thus the extra sugar. But he skipped the fact the numbers aren't the same amount, and the feast ables is 20grams off from being double the amount.
0 likesWdym? He calculated them to the same size 43 grams, and there's still less sugar in the feastibles bar
1 likeis this really the real truth about mrbeast?
0 likesI make donuts for a living. It seems you have an excess amount of glaze, if you'd like I can send you a bunch of plain donuts.
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@@slash4660MrBeast paid for his flight and commented on this video complimenting it
0 likesHe's not glazing Mr beast at all. You'd know that if you actually watched the video. He still critises him. The main point of the video is to call out dog pack on his lies
3 likesBro the editing here is giving me a stroke. The video is an hour long and you had to save like 10 seconds by speeding up everything by 200%???
0 likesWith the new toy line he released, the slot style games hes had out, he definitely is promoting gambling to kids - the only thing i didnt see fully mentioned here that i still wish hed stop lol
0 likesMr beast: "These lotteries are free to enter. But you can pay if you want. Both are applicable."
0 likesNothing suss again. Its either free or its not Jimmy. No lottery works like that.
Yeah this whole situation is honestly fucked with both sides apparently being bad, at this point I don't care about those two anymore. All I want is justice to be served
2 likesYou're completely ignoring that Jake Weddle himself was manipulated and gaslit to continue staying on the challenge, while they continued to torture him. Just blatantly skipping by such simple information does not encourage me to take your opinions seriously.
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False.
1 likeMrBeast wants to make himself look as good as possible, whereas Dogpack wants to make him look as bad as possible, it makes sense that the truth is somewhere in the middle
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The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle of this MrBeast-DogPack-Cereal triange
0 likesMiddle ground fallacy
2 likesNo, that doesn't make sense because you're assuming that cereal or whoever this guy is, is being totally impartial just because he says so. You can't take one person's word for it that they are the ultimately impartial adjudicator. The truth does have to lean one way or another, and the guy who posted this video, whether he admits it or not does have a personal bias because everyone does.
1 likeThat’s for not being dumb now Immo I can watch Mr beast and not feel like shit
1 likean ouroboros of slop and drama. when will people realise that they can do more with their lives than constantly feed their brain with 1 hour exposés of celebrities or (in)famous people? shit like this popping up in my recommended after watching one coffeezilla video is giving me legitimate brain damage. situation this, truth that, who gives a fuck man? there isn't a genuine reason to care about internet drama and allegations, unless you were directly affected by it. the kind of people actually watching this are either playing it the backgorund, or have absolutely nothing going on in their lives and are seeking a sense of superiority by seeing the shortcomings of anyone and everyone exposed. hopefully if you're reading this, you can break out of the brainrot and realise that your own life is plenty cinema, so focus on it instead.
0 likesBet there are ZERO checkmarks on that board at the end. Im @17:00. They may be free lotteries, but mr beasts team have been blatantly caught making that line "no purchase neccessary" miniature and hidden in their ads. You are a complete scumbag for going out of your way to cover up for Jimmy when talking about real crimes.
0 likesI wonder how much he offered you you cheap pos
Bro! I'm giving you the crown! You are the Goat!
0 likesHow much did jimmy pay you for this one must be a coincidence you just randomly acquire the audio of him being terminated, something nobody else knew existed besides the beast team, and you just magically get a bunch of beast members for an interview
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@@slash4660 Not even tryna stand up for dogpack, I can just smell a paid video from a mile away lol Mr Beast follows soggy on twitter as well one of his 1.1k followers it’s just sus
1 likeHe literally critised Mr beast. And no wonder dog packs audio got leaked of him being fired. Dog pack lied about so many facts, your obviously going to have people who work with Mr beast leak the audio. You would to if someone made numerous lies about you and your company which you work hard in and actually care about, especially when its donating millions of dollars a month to people less fortunate.
1 likeAlso I don't find it that suprising that he got a bunch of interviews with employees.
If you were an employee mad at dog pack because of the amount of lies he made about you and your friends, then a 200k sub youtuber contacts you saying he wants to interview you for a video where he's exposing the lies, im pretty sure your going to do it
Why would Jimmy give weddle an UNNECESSARY $50,000 AFTER he already made this public? LOL
1 likeNothing suss though hey soggy biscuit? ;)
No one notices a pattern of Mr. Beast employees suxxing?
0 likesLiterally the money game bro wtf 😭
1 likeDogpack should've worn a tinfoil hat, I wonder who would believe him even more
0 likesBoth MrBeast and Dogpack 404 are scumbags
1 likeThis is the video mr.beast was talking about. Glad to know it wasnt him to do it and he paid someone else to look like an idiot for him. 😂
3 likes58:50 nice math degree, that lisp is at least a Harvard education so I expect at LEAST that much. Saying he got 10k to then say he got 10k plus the 1m prize split in 24...news flash. 1000000 divided by 24 is 41,666$. Not a simple crypto pump and dump went over either. The argument isn't that Mr.Beast is a "terrible person who deserves no community!" The argument is that mr.Beast is a liar and lied to get to where he's at which is what we now know as true.(you confirmed in your own little video) you did the exact same thing the past employee did and walked over everything that WASNT important trying to boost his image back up...news flash, some of us think with our brains and not our butts so try harder.
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Exactly, it’s so obvious they paid him to make this with all this ground breaking new info like the leaked audio etc. Fair play jimmy
0 likesMan I believed him... Guess I'm naive
0 likesNice evidence with the first guy @10:30. So he says none of what HE WAS CAUGHT AND RECORDED SAYING is true and what people just believe that?
3 likesIt is for his own benefit after getting caught discussing shady shit. Is it ridiculous to think he may be lying? LOL
Not even 10mins out of an hour and a half! and you are already twisting the truth. This is going to be entertaining..
We all know how quickly Jimmy settles out of court. And also the amounts of money he bribes people with
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@@simo_viewer_pr9030 Just you bud.
0 likesIs it just me or does this literally mean nothing?
0 likes@@slash4660 I dont care about dogpack or soggy biscuit and his delusions. I care about Jimmy the little twitching nervous rat.
1 likeYou dont just get to say, "oh well both said some inaccuracies so must be in the middle and they are both guilty or innocent". No mate. Jimmy is in a diff boat to anyone else involved in this madness as he is profiting and calling all shots not even reacting to anyone or anything.
Both are In the wrong here. Soggy acts like what he said after the fact is proof and dog pack 404 acts like what he said is definitive proof. I'm assuming the actual truth is somewhere in the middle
5 likesShould change your name to Soggy Biscuit LOL
0 likesmaybe it is just time that we stop trying to put this rich guy on a pedistool and pretending he is helping many people.
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But he is actually helping people. The claims against Mr beast weren't that he isn't helping people but that the things and methods that he is doing to help those people is wrong.
2 likesExpose video on expose videos is crazy
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next i want him to cover parlo. as that guy is also a scumbag.
0 likesPoor garret
1 likeThe crusade against dogpack is beyond cringe
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ZOGpack404 and ZOGGY cereal are both peckerwoods.
0 likesIt's not a crusade though? Soggy is going over stuff that dog pack 404 said which is proven to be lies
5 likesI hate MrBeast, but what I hate more its people trying to build themselves up by taking advantage of people hating MrBeast
4 likesI really do hope DogPack gets cancelled for the very same reasons people are cancelling MrBeast, because he is as bad as the shady stuff Jimmy has done
I am vindicated. I said from the very beginning the only credible accusation he gave was the illegal lotteries, and that most likely he did it unintentionally, because most youtubers literally don't know that those kinds of giveaways count as a lottery, or how not to be an illegal one.
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@@maplesyrup_productions His name was not a reference to the crime, you didnt watch the video LOL. Stop parroting lies.
1 like@ How in the absolute FUCK could Jimmy not have known when the guy’s fucking nickname was a reference to the crime he committed? How could he not have known about Ava when he was in a group chat with her engaging with pedophilic memes? How deluded can you fucking Beast Brained losers get?
3 likes@@maplesyrup_productions Oh no, he hired a man with a criminal record without knowing he had one? Which is... checks notes completely legal and ethical? And then later fired him? Crazy!
3 likesAHEM...Delaware
4 likesDude, why did you even do this? What’s the point? …. Views? You literally ruined everything.
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Wdym? He exposed lies. How did he ruin anything? If the basis of dog pack 404's claims were based on lies and hypocracy they deserve to be called out. Soggy isn't defending Mr beast, just bringing the actual truth of the matter to light. Mr beast still did bad things, he isn't say that he isnt
9 likesdeep isolation and keeping them awake is a war crime under the ICC and the geneva convention but the key word is war... its not a regular crime under the geneva convention taking personal photos away is also a war crime
1 likeThis seems like 'damning evidence' but as with Dogpack I have seen 'damning evidence' turn out to be not so much 'evidence' as it is 'speculation'. I am simply not going to trust anyone on this, Not dogpack, not mrbeast, not this guy.
3 likes53:22 💥 👌
1 like40:55 Can you have a copyright claim over that?
0 likesAt this point I’m not even sure what to believe, there’s so many conflicting narratives and claims that it’s all just getting muddled together. Good on you for sticking to facts, or at least what look like facts lol
0 likes70% of this video is the definition of stretching facts.
4 likes20% is straight up misleading
10% is backed up by facts. And saying it's 10% is extremely generous because guess what, the employees most likely have been told to say certain things, and you getting to interview them is highly suspicious as if someone in the beast team wanted you to interview them
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And yet you can't provide a single example of any of that. Typical Dogpack rider.
0 likesMost of this video was just exposing lies dog pack 404 made
0 likesI'm so glad they make investigative youtube channels and then have investigative youtube channels, investigate those investigating Youtube channels 😱🤯
2 likesPathetic failed comedian couldn't understand a lighthearted joke; the absolute irony! He's so terrible I'm shocked to say that Amy Schumer is a better comedian than him!
1 likeYeah ok mate... Just because you say someone is sketchy doesn't mean everyone is now blinded by Jimmy Donaldsons obsession with money, fake charities aimed at minors, rigged giveaways aimed at minors, peddling junk food aimed at minors, or involvement and support regarding cp again, aimed at minors. And or ignoring sa allegations and much much more within the company he created and owns. No one else is to blame. Jimmy calls the shots.
5 likesTry and tell me he didnt know. pfft.
These simps in the comments all know that Jimmy is a manipulative greedy little freak. They just cant allow their huge egos to admit someone they dont even know personally should and is being called out and punished for reprehensible behaviour.
I look forward to seeing Mr Beast behind bars, or at the very minimum, cancelled youtube channel. 😘
Don't you see how DogPack404 also comes from a genuine place? The information in this video is what we are compiling to learn the truth. You're one to talk about manipulating the viewer, because you're extremely biased. Your tone, choice of words, etc.
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Well, Soggy actually did a cool thing known as research, even flying to a different continent just to make sure he isn’t making any wrong claims… And wth does “comes from a genuine place” mean?
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0 likes18:03
0 likesFinally, many people think Dogpack404 is the hero of the situation, but in reality he's bad as well.
0 likesChange it back to content cop mrbeast🙏
0 likesThere was a MrBeast comment here... Is it gone?
2 likesso you got paid off by beast? to defend him? yea im disliking this
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Cope
13 likesWith the relevant permission, you could try a thumbnail where you are sitting down with the best known employee you interviewed, and you photoshop some stuff with dogpack or something into the background. I think it would help since there's so many videos with the current style out there already, and honestly. So many people will probably just think this is another exhausting video trying to expose Jimmy for more allegations at this point.
0 likesThis whole Mr Beast saga has confused me more than Inception.
0 likesListen I can get onboard with most of what you said in this video EXCEPT the war crime stuff. Weddle's confession highlights a distinct lack of care and compassion in Jimmy. Of course it's not an actual war crime, and Dawson SPECIFICALLY states that in the second video, however it doesn't excuse his treatment. The fact that we have to treat terrorists better than Jimmy did Weddle has horrifying implications for a globally renowned kid's youtuber. And while the argument of "he was getting paid and could leave at any time" sounds like it holds up, you have to keep in mind that there is a clear power imbalance. Weddle isn't particularly fortunate but wanted to enable his goals, and Jimmy being in a position of power was willing to exploit Weddle's desperation only to physically torture him for nearly 2 weeks.
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didnt he show that one interview about an employee saying jake weddle's complaints were valid and soggy saying he's glad that employee was honest about it?
1 likeI know for a fact slop content like camnuggets or morepegasus wont make a video on this cause theyve been believing dogpack since the beginning
3 likesjust because he said it as a joke doesnt mean it wasnt a joke, thats what he was saying, he was saying it WAS a joke but it turned out NOT to be a joke because of the fact it was a war crime
1 likeWe are returning to content cop nature is healing
0 likesThis is why you can't trust ANYBODY on the internet, anyone can fake the truth.
0 likesYour take on the faking signatures situation is braindead, holy shit.
2 likestell elosanta i said hi 🇱🇹
0 likesIdk dude you dont really do a good job at whitewashing this whole thing. Your sitting there trying defend a chomo, while playing videos of circumstantial evidence against him. Did Dogpack mislead people? sure. But at the end of the day it doesnt take away from the fact that Jimmy somehow keeps finding himself around chomos. To me, it feels similar to people who try to defend Michael Jackson. He was never convicted of anything but there sure was a lot of circumstantial evidence. Does that make him innocent? I guess to the eyes of the court, yes. But is our system 100% flawless? no its not. Sometimes very evil people get away with horrendous crimes because of their status and power.
4 likesYou know... in an odd turn of events, this really helped their PR team iron out any kinks and really make sure that everything is okay.
0 likesI also agree, this drama is so exhausting. I feel as if I need to dodge landmines avoiding the videos so it doesn't break my recommended.
"My brain tells me that if other people have gone through similar challenges and they've turned out ok then maybe its not the challenge"... bruh that is an extremely L take. the video he refers to had a day and night cycle, if Jake Weddles challenge really didn't have a day and night cycle they aren't even remotely comparable. major victim blaming. Dustins a POS.
1 likeHoodie looks like an american ed sheeran
0 likesJust like what ray once said "theres a backlash to the backlash"
0 likesdont forget with the guy who said he was tortured, he could of made a sleeping eye mask or requested one, and the lights wouldnt of been an issue too.
0 likesThank you so much for giving the other side of the commentary with depth, logic, and evidence. Though--as a response to your call to action: I definitely think it would be nice to have a part two covering a lot of the other things that have come up:
1 likeSurprise Witness TV: Illegal sale/shipping of a knife (to Lava when he was a minor if I remember correctly)
She's actually found quite a lot of things, actually.
Coffee & Cult: she caught a bit of a video in which Jimmy is the owner of the poster after Chris moved out months before
Rosana: The faked philanthropy videos
I am not saying they are right or wrong, but I do appreciate hearing more voices and seeing more evidence/research. Again, thank you for the time and effort you put into this video.
I hate MrBeast way less now
4 likesI only dislike him quite a bit
"Dogpack just finished his career..."
2 likesBiggest semi-Uno Reverse I’ve seen so far. FraudPack404 got busted for trying to bust another person, the irony…
0 likes7:08 YOOOO, I forgot this dude was in Jimmy's old vids, he was goated ngl.
0 likesDAMN. This whole situation is really crazy. I wish Jimmy can address the allegations and if he deserves it for his company to gain back their reputation and credibility. And I wish the best for everyone involved.
0 likesMorePegasus will eat good after this
4 likesCompletely changed my perspective, I need to be more careful and do a ton more research before just believing things
1 likeAt first I was 100% on Rosanna's side but as time went on things did seem off with her. Glad to see this video validated my concerns.
0 likesOh I didn’t hire that guy i inherited him. Bro hoddie is 🔥 1:06:10
1 likeChucky was right 🤯
0 likesI'm sorry for judging you Ludwig
0 likesThe fact that the random employee that exposed him is an asshole is irrelevant, all of the serious allegations are PROVEN true, and beast deserves to face consequences for doing illegal lotteries, hiring people on the registry, manipulating children for his benefit, faking/misleading charity work etcetera
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Didn't watch the vid these points were literally addressed.
1 like@@A_D_H_L Looks like someone can't form their own opinions or thoughts.
2 likesLooks like someone didn’t even watch the video
4 likesThis video lacks serious critical thinking and reeks of fanboy. Why put in all this effort if you weren’t going to make something good, accurate, or remotely on earth? Don’t you know the point of videos like this is to be good and accurate?
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So you're just saying bs without any weight? Classic dogpack fanboy
2 likesComplete MrBeast drama timeline
4 likes-Ava gets exposed
-Jimmy fires Ava
-Dogpack releases his video
-a couple months pass and Dogpack has released his second video
-he releases his third video not long after
-Nicolas DeOrio calls him out on the James Warren stuff
-Rosanna and Dogpack release a collab
-they get called out for being wrong about pictures Ava sent
-Coffeezilla releases his video on MrBeast
-Soggy Cereal releases his video on Dogpack
Low key this is part of the controlled response Jimmy is putting out, poison the water, put out false stuff so that nobody can tell what is true or not, attack their character so that people don't believe them, sideline the issues so that they don't seem important anymore.
4 likesMr Beast is fighting back through proxys, out of nowhere channels with no engagement no popularity come out defending him with the same points, always attacking Dogpack 404 in the same way, yeah completely legit, my source you ask? uuuhhh current mr beast employees that definitely have no stakes and are not biased.
You know what the worst part is, that many are believing it and being turned against the truth, tomorrow video 3 of dogpack shows up and suddenly everyone on his side again, what a joke.
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maybe actually watch the video and then comment?
1 likecope
1 likeWho can stand listening to this guy? Is this MrBeast's lawyer? LOL gtfo.
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are you mad that you fail for a narrative. it's okay to accept you're wrong about certain stuff.
5 likesNo he isn't. He literally still critises Mr beast for doing bad things. He's just exposing yhe actual truth, not yhe pies spread by dog pack 404
3 likesBro all he's doing is informing us about dogpacks hypocrisy, he's not saying mr beast is a saint
4 likesfinally someone talks about this bullshit
2 likesI actually don't know anymore bro 😭
2 likesAfter watching the vid, my opinion changed from "Mr. Beast is a horrible person!" to "Maybe Mr. Beast isn't all that bad (but still some things were bad)." Though maybe the crypto or something else might change my mind again. I am a little angry though that with how many of these claims could be disproven, but Mr. Beast never did a response, instead you had to be like the third-party response. Maybe it was for PR reasons, but it could have made things a lot simpler. Good Vid btw!
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@@A_D_H_L That's true. But I still believe there was a decent passage of time for him to make something to officially address at least part of them.
0 likesWell he obviously wanted to wait until all of the allegations were made about him before he could respond. But there seemed to be new allegations being made about him every month, I top of the fact that he’s been waiting for Dogpack to release his “final” video which hasn’t happened for a few months now.
1 likemr beast and dogpack404 the tale of two frauds
4 likesIm living in a south park episode. Scratch that, a family guy, the Simpsons, and south park episode COMBINED. WHAT IS THIS
3 likesnot the Amberlynn Reid music
0 likesNow i am happy that mrbeast isn't that bad of a person the only problem i have with him now is him knowing about kris tyson (am not talking about the group chat am talk about the video were you can see mrbeast looking at the cp image uncomfortably)
2 likesAlso, with that anime, the girl is 17. In most of the world (Including Japan, and some of the states in the US) The age of consent is 16, meaning it isn't pedophillia. It is weird, but not illegal
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@@nicoleelizabeth4270 I'm saying while weird, that anime wouldn't be pedophillia
0 likesOkay and what’s your point
0 likesI don’t even know what to think anymore, I’m trying to not just follow the crowd but I don’t really have time to research things myself
2 likesim just genuinely confused why 58's wink looked so fake. it prob wasnt but looking at it in slow motion it just looks edited for some reason
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there is a million possible reasons from youtube processing, bitrate, etc. it's a lot similar to how sometimes backgrounds look green screened even if it isn't.
3 likesI STOOD WITH MR BEAST
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@@SebTheEpixGamer Stokes Twins is crazy 💀💀💀 They just copy thumbnails lmao
0 likesI stood with neither I support creators like PewDiePie and Stokes twins not multi-million dollar company or dog clown lol
0 likescan't wait for the response to the response bro pegasus and west jet are gonna be eating for years
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He'll b milking the situation
0 likesI don't understand how you just toss away Jake the Viking's statement especially because noone has addressed why the guy was wearing the mask. Jake's statement of "Jimmy knew" made this hiring into a much bigger deal. I'm sure Jake doesn't like people talking about his brother-in-law so it doesn't seem like it is in his best interest to say that Jimmy knew. It also isn't a comically absurd allegation; Delaware had the benefit of it being 8 years since his conviction, he probably said the charges were nonsense, and he had a work history at a well established store where he was infinitely more likely to come into contact with kids; I can easily imagine them saying if Best Buy was willing to hire him then he is harmless. Also the law firm specifically said "the Company knowing employing individuals with proclivities or histories towards illegal or questionable legal conduct are similarly without basis." which does not deny that they knew Delaware was a sex offender; the allegations against Delaware were that he had a single instance of misconduct would would therefore not fall under "proclivities or histories" since that requires a pattern of behavior. It seems like to me that they purposely chose to say "proclivities or histories" rather than say individuals with a criminal record for a specific reason; if there was no basis of Jimmy knowing then the lawyer should have gone with a more specific statement that would unambiguously include the Delaware allegations.
1 likeBefore this video, i thought debunking false claims was hard to do. But now i know that with most of them, all you have to do is a quick google search and find the truth, while others are just a little more complex
0 likesHow is this not viral yet
0 likesThis is literally the Saul Goodmam of Youtube.
0 likesCONTENT COP! Paul Blart edition 😭
0 likesthank god. i could see through him from the beginning, i haven't watched the video yet but it was clear everything he was doing was not about Mr. Beast but about himself. Dude is a loser.
5 likesHis response will be very interesting
1 likeI ain't even 10 minutes in and can safely say you have the trustworthyness if them both, example:
0 likesWho the fuck talks rumours about something that can ruin someones life this easily? And if these rumours were true (which they were more than less) why did he stay around at the company for half a second more? No investigation nothing. Also, you can't attribute this shit to being 19 years old, bro, he's not 8 and if someone doesn't know that corporations barely care who works for them, then I can't feel pity for them
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okay im about halfway through right now and... bro... how did you fumbe it so bad? the video gets way better later, with some actual arguments and shit, if i were you i would erase the first give or take 20 minutes
0 likesgood video about journalism on journalism however I want to reiterate something you said in the video which is that Mr Beast is not the saint in this situation, just the victim. Mr Beast has done a few bad things like the whole crypto thing for example and I dont think he's reimbursed them yet, I dont think he's reimbursed most people from his philanthropy stuff as well like the wells and the blindness cure but I could be wrong on that.
0 likesOG MrBeast fan since 50k here!
1 likeIt must have been incredibly difficult to go against the grain here, thanks for taking the time to investigate this situation and objectively assess it. I really do not know why Jimmy works with Logan Paul, it doesn’t make sense. Other than that, I think this drama was highly sensationalized by clout youtubers looking for clicks and people who know kids aren’t smart enough to spot the logical fallacies in dogpack’s video. I was really surprised that he just outright lied tho in the video—that is crazy tbh. But whats sad is on the internet everyone, including me, believed some of it just bc the video was popular and semi-well produced???
I found your channel through Asmongold actually and I am relieved a bunch of these allegations were disproven. Again, he needs to drop Logan ASAP and put out an explanation about why he did that. But then again, why is everyone only holding Jimmy to this standard? Remember how all of those YouTubers participated in the challenge video (which Logan was in!!!)?? Why are people so quick to judge jimmy for working with Logan, when plenty of other known and respected youtubers did it too? Like iShowSpeed was RIGHT THERE in recent streams/videos! It’s like suddenly the blame can only apply selectively? It doesn’t make sense.
I think deep down, the truth is, people honestly do not care about this situation. People are looking to get mad online. And usually i do not care, but Hoodie made a great point about how misinformation promoted by Dogpack and others is actively harming charitable efforts. When you are actively spreading false information which consequently harms people in need via disrupting charity efforts, that is when you cross the line.
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He works with Logan paul the same reason he looks up to Elon musk. Elon and Logan are both business minded, they overwork themselves and their whole life is their businesses. Exactly like Mr beast. It's that saying that goes like " keep like minded individuals around you" or something like that
0 likesoh yeah also using what you allege as C3PO in a THUMBNAIL is INSANE. DISGUSTING.
3 likesDEAR GOD WE ARE ALL HORRIBLE
0 likesYou’re pretty cringe and steal content
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Thats cool bro, but his claims are still true
5 likesYou’re annoying.
1 likeSo what a surprise, everyone is a shit person and trying to manipulate. Just like you, best course of action - don't care.
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@@Poopseatschips yep, I originally did care - I will admit. I was like "wow, the biggest youtuber ever is a shit person, that really sucks for the future of youtubers, etc...and their entire brand is for kids entertainment...This all started with REAL allegations of Kris Tyson being a PDf/Lolly/groomer and to me, that is serious enough as an uncle, to pay attention to.
0 likesThere is, once again, a predator working on a kids channel. So, as an uncle, I would want to make sure my nieces/nephews avoid this content, why they need to avoid it and make sure my siblings block certain channels. And that's so much more important to me then someone being stupid enough to listen to social media influencers to buy crypto and lose their money or parents being dumb enough to buy youtuber merch for their kids.
Half way through this video, I asked myself "why am I watching an expose on some random dude?" And then I realized..."why do I even care about what Mr. Beast and all the social media influencers are doing when my siblings already blocked their channels, so do I just like drama?"
So, yes. as of my comment yesterday - I'm choosing to stop caring. One day, you will realize people can change their minds and express in written and verbal ways they are changing their mind. It's a wonderful concept.
Me when I don’t care about a video so much I comment on the video💀
0 likesA lot of dogpack’s evidence seems to do the ellipsis trick I learned in high school for taking quotes out of context and using them as evidence for your point even though the real quote was arguing against your point.
0 likesOk who will investigate soggy cereal now?
5 likesthe Jake Weddle thing is still undefendible literally that video shouldn't even been made it's a dumb idea
0 likesThe internet learning nuance. (Me including) Maybe we are in good times
0 likesi knew dogpack was doing this for clout/attention finally someone figured it out
0 likesabout the cgi fake thing
1 liken the fact that you have to hide an entire wall made for security reason iS STUPID, like ok the hole is real but why do that? To make it more interesting..that's so dumb showing THAT you need to be safe doing things like that is not CRINGE and doesn't take away from the show
the way they do things to entertain children is still deceptive to me
1:02:00 is this seriously the only clip you're gonna show yourself watching the minions 😭
0 likesMrBeast commenting on your video after ignoring any of the other allegations for 3 months is crazy work
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What did he say?
0 likesi aint watching all this so is mrbeast innocent or not
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Is some things yes but in other things no
0 likeshe isnt perfect, but dogpack is doing all the things his accusing mrbeast of doing and more so his just being a hypocrite
0 likesKinda, it's nuanced like all things in life.
0 likesis he? or is he not?
0 likes2:08 I love how you call them victims of it as it is super true
0 likesI knew it!
1 likeDogPack404's a bad guy?
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@@PureSauce35 nah lol
0 likes@@hgfhgfh6048 you cleary didn't get the refrence to Pixels (2015) starring Adam Sandler
0 likeswhat do u think lol
0 likesI never liked this dogpack guy, he always gave me weird vibes. He’s like shady or something
0 likesMore than an hour of cringe and pointless crap.
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@@bradysentertainment3361 ...what..?
0 likes@@hgfhgfh6048burden of proof lies with you to prove not him.
0 likesPoint less crap is crazy watch you mean
1 likefuck u mean dawgg???????
1 likeI never trusted the guy, ig I was right for doing so
0 likesI do not like how this video makes it seem like MrBeast "only" did a couple things that were wrong
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I was under the impression it was a mrbeast and dogpack debunk video -- not just dogpack. That being said, it's definitely made clear the lengths that dogpack is going to slander and jump on every possibly negative thing for mrbeast
0 likes@@intothevoid9831 then have the video be called "The REAL truth about DogPack404"
0 likes(Or "I worked for DogPack, he's a fraud" if you wanna be funny)
Not "The REAL truth about Mr. Beast, cus that makes it seems like it's all about Mr. Beast not DogPack404
This isn't a mrbeast video, it is a dogpack debunking video.
0 likesThat’s because he only talks about the stuff dog pack alleges not the overall allegations
1 liketough deal with it then. Mfs will find every way to cry about something and cancel someone successful
7 likes3 Months Later - The REAL REAL Truth About MrBeast
3 likesI think this whole thing teaches the internet a lesson, don't believe anything at face value. Wait for more info. No doubt we'll all forget again.
0 likesclose enough, welcome back content cop
2 likesDawson is mad that he ain't getting that MrBeast money and can't live in a $15,000 month place like the rest of the crew 😂
1 likeIdk why but dogpack always rubbed me the wrong way
1 likeThe guy in the 10 mins video did hit the laser? Seems like a big deal to gloss over when proving it wasn't faked. 👀 Wulp, that's it, whole video debunked, see ya in "Soggy Cereal's career is over" and "Soggy's cereal just lost all of his credibility" before the end of the year.
2 likes(Yes, this is a joke, everyone is tired of this, screw both of them)
How the turned tables have turned
0 likes1:02:15 what is that old slow a SD Card reader ain't no way you still got one of those 🤣
0 likesDogpack face has always been punchable now its valid
0 likesEveryone needs to see this video.
0 likesthank you for this breakdown
2 likesSo when I watched the two dogpack404 videos, I had a feeling that most of the claims brought up were heavily exaggerated and maybe false. Well, I was not wrong on that assumption.
2 likestalk about the crypo scams
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He dosen’t know crypto
1 likeYou the goat bro after dogpack one video evidence became false I stopped believing him and it seemed like he was just doing random things to stay relevant. This video is why I subscribed to you
1 likeWow. Everyone needs to see this.
1 likeThank you
1 likeMost of the allegations are false, but some things still need answering, like the hide and seek video's editing of Pansino's ranking, the crypto transactions, etc. Dawson really needs to be used as a case study for future uncovering of manipulators, because his story was credible enough to be trusted for months, but people are always so quick to accept allegations as confirmations.
1 likeThis is insane...
0 likesHonestly, I never really cared about all this drama. I just ignored it all, it all looked like just a d*** measuring contest.
1 likeThere are proven things he did like delete 100000s of comments faking dislike numbers don’t forget the Chris Tyson situation plus the illegal lottery’s and the fake hospital and the discord server
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He already paid for the eye surgeries but I feel like it was only done because asmongold talked about it.
0 likesMarch 25th 2164
0 likesThe thlop shlicken
0 likesImma call it now, in 2 months some youtuber with a shit username will be talking about "the soggy situation getting worse"
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Depends on dog pack response it either the soggy situation is getting worse or dog pack situation is getting worse
0 likesHaha ikr, I was thinking that as well.
1 likeSome people will try to find dirt on Soggy and cancel him.
And the forever cancellation spiral is on.
Because no one is uncancellable
yeah half these allegations are just as petty as most of dogpack's first video. "He didn't say allegedly in every sentence! We caught him spreading misinfo!" This whole drama is stupid but you're glazing beast hard. also listening to this accent for 90 minutes is fucking torture
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Tbh it's mrbeast's fault. Intentionally not addressing the allegations will make things worse like dream. Stop getting annoyed when a river source flows, stop the source from flowing when you so easily can. But mrbeast fanboys will never understand.
2 likes@@Blueybeak I agree with some of the points you just said but it’s not cool to make fun of people’s accents yk?
0 likes@@ECHOGEKO competitive ranked glazing
0 likesIf you don’t like his accent don’t watch the video, or what do you think he’s gonna put on a ‘normal’ accent just for you?
2 likesI think he is a bit over exaggerating but the sad thing is that it feels like he has to be like that, for it to stick.
2 likesBut he has some really good valid points, haven't watched it all, but what I have watched I agree with.
But I wish he didn't have to give it out like a lawyer that tries to debunk the other person in a almost manipulative way.
@@igor_ostrovski
0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
You're on some copium. Most of the debunking isn't about him not saying 'alleged" but about dogpack making stuff up.
6 likesI beg you stop putting that annoying dumb voice on when you're trying to mock someone your original accent is annoying as it is
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@@SourChims you got me woah!
1 likecry about it
3 likesFeels good to be right, I knew from the start something was a bit off about him, the way he was presenting the info and treating it all like a joke never sat right with me
3 likeso7 soggy cereal
0 likesIf everything said in this video is true, this DogPack guy is gonna face huge lawsuit.
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@@darrylthompson798 im not ignore it tho. some of the shit mr beast has done are terrible and thats a fact but the signature does not matter
0 likes@@arielperez3613 defamation isn't easy but he literally has the legal team to strangle this kid legally and he isn't. I wonder why
0 likes@@AaronSmith-rm9kl you are excusing behavior that you wouldn't accept from someone who wasn't a celebrity. He isn't a god or a dirty he is a human, a human who made multiple shit choices to the point you have to find excuses and ignore his other actions that you can't excuse away.
0 likes@@darrylthompson798 yes but the signature is still valid as permission would have been given. Also he discusses the sex offender in the video it was a dumb mistake to not do a back ground check but at the end of the day is was clearly a mustake
0 likesSuing for defamation isn’t an easy case to prove especially since MrBeast is a public figure and the standards are higher compared to a private individual
0 likes@@darrylthompson798 His defamatory actions caused MrBeast to lose sponsorships and severe loses. If he also can prove that he made this video because he is disgruntled, Doggy is fcuked.
0 likes@AaronSmith-rm9kl it's not alleged when we saw people fake his signature, testimony by an employee that was subjected to mentally destabilizing environment and the reality that he did hire a sex offender as well as plenty of other claims and issues raised. You just want to bootlick, which is fine but admit that.
0 likes@@darrylthompson798no he is lying the reason he isn’t sued is because everything he has said is “allegedly” however he should still be held accountable
0 likesNope
0 likesThat's the thing he won't. Because what he stated is true. It only takes 4 minutes and some critical thinking to wonder, "If dogpack is lying, why hasn't he been litigated into oblivion?" It's because he isn't lying.
1 likeDogpack404, more like Dogshit404 haha, ha...
2 likes"1$ detective vs $1.000.000 detective"
2 likes1 dollar vs 1 dollar
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Be quiet bot@@JesusPlsSaveMe
0 likes@@captaintaggart6523
1 likeWhere are you going after you die?
What happens next? Have you ever thought about that?
Repent today and give your life to Jesus Christ to obtain eternal salvation. Tomorrow may be too late my brethen😢.
Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto man once to die, but after that the judgement
american moment
0 likesSo apparently and allegedly this guy Dustin and this other people out of nowhere decides to speak with you because because of a slop video? And when this interviews happen? Am i suppose to believe it happen after the internal investigation? Didnt the investigators retain/recommend employees during the investigation to not make public statements in order to ensure accurate information and avoid witness getting tainted?
6 likesI noticed Dogpack's video had a lot of petty criticisms that made me immediately question them. Other inaccuracies, such as the signature of a brand name made me realize he was spewing a lot of nonsense. And then the statements that tried to prove a point with one or two examples. He knew a few people in a video, therefore no people could be random subscribers. He saw one shot of empty beds on a raft at night, so therefore they never slept on the raft at night. All of these can be convincing from someone that has gained trust, but none of this was sufficient proof by any measure. He tried to use his former employment at Mr. Beast as a way to gain credibility, but in reality, that should have hurt his credibility.
0 likessoy ass thumbnail
0 likesWatching the video, the fact that this man is being such an asshole and takes the "can’t go back to Delaware" thing as a literal Banishment puts me off
2 likesEdit: Oh, ok so he's mitigating the fact that they wouldn't turn the lights off and kept taking shit away because of ciurse something can't be bith bad for a person and something people can walk away from
yeah at the end of the day,
2 likeswhen you watch Coffeezilla's investigation into Mr. Beast, (which is full of evidence, it seems at least $23 mill worth)
you see what Mr. Beast and his bozos are really about
I'm less concerned with DogPack's tactics and more relieved that someone finally shed some light on Mr. Beast's ridiculous lies about philanthropy and being the nicest guy in the world
Coffee, Dawson and Rosanna have done a public service
I don't know what to believe anymore Where does the base of this truth come from, what's stopping someone making a video saying no this is what happened and these people are lying and this is the truth?
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The point is that both dogpack and MrBeast aren’t good people
0 likes@@Blueybeak oh lol
0 likes@@mdj5782 i did rage quit the vid when i heard that lol, i will watch the rest.
0 likesthe replies aren't turned off lol youtube has a 500 reply limit
1 likebro didn't watch the video
1 likeI think its nice you brought some light on dogpack videos and show something closer to the truth. I still dont think mr beast is a good guy but certainly not the demon dogpack pictured.
0 likes11:11 Turkey is not at war??? this map is wrong lol
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turkish military is directly operating in syria
0 likesyou forgot the discord leaks and the shadman images
3 likeshow did he even get away with all of this
1 likenow i feel awful for believing dogpacks accusations
2 likes11:50 Bella the wolf is afraid of me
0 likesHow does Jimmy's boot taste
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How does dogpacks boot taste
3 likesyou should watch 42:27
0 likesbro didn't watch the video
2 likesWatch the video
7 likesThis is actually such a well researched, well thought out video 👍👍
0 likesMe beast was wise for not responding to the criticisms himself. Now people online are doing it for him.
1 likeGuys I am #1 PEGASUS hater, was a c0ck rider goshdamnnnn
0 likesSomething we need to remember, is the artwork that we saw kris hung up in jimmys house
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never forget…
1 likeo7
Although while these allegations aren’t true (( except the kinda one and the 2 accusations )) the game show ones are completely inexcusable
2 likesso youì're trying the 1984 move huh ok dude great clout lmao
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DogPack meat rider
1 likeMr beast beet all
0 likesok
0 likesMy thoughts I’ll update throughout the video.
7 likes-Agreed Lunchly is awful and moldy which Mr beast was trying to say it was a good product on tweeter?
-Logan Paul and KSI are awful people and allegedly (but not really alleged) crypto scammers which is sketchy with the new evidence off beast being in crypto scams. Maybes they’ll bring this up later we’ll see.
-hiring seg offender was really bad in Jimmy’s part and and completely neglectful but he was very young at the time so benefit of the doubt.
-I definitely don’t think it’s a war crime but it is very scummy behavior to hold massive amounts of money above someone’s head if they do your challenge. Yes he did sign up for it and could have left but that’s just a lot of money man. That could change someone’s life.
-Never mentioned making him run a marathon with no training for money. The after effect was awful. I feel like accepting money for that no strings attached was for compensation of that “torture.” Maybe will mention it later?
-I’ve never thought Mr beast did an illegal lottery out of malicious intent, I always thought it was out of ignorance. Having other people sign his stuff was very scummy behavior though.
-dogpack has always seemed off to me when he started making content with the girl (I forgot her name) doctoring videos is bad behavior.
-He didn’t say that they were avoiding giving them the free dog food and said it was removed so he didn’t know if they got it or not. He sorta hinted at it but I wouldn’t say that’s a claim.
-The CGI wasn’t even that serious of a claim to anyone I don’t think. Even if it was CGI I don’t think people would have cared.
-That’s actually Pegasus’s second channel and he already has more than enough money so I don’t think that’s why he was doing it. It’s actually like how news channels will post updates every day even if it’s something small so you can get the information while it’s happening and not waiting for more stuff to happen.
-It isn’t right for Mr. Beast to make his audience think they are getting his signature when it’s someone signing it for him in my opinion.
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@@arielperez3613 Exactly
0 likesMy ending thoughts: Dogpack is a bad person, Mr beats is a bad person, and Soggy made a few stretches and questionable things. Don’t think Soggy is a bad person though.
0 likesKeeps deleting my comments. Have to finish it down here because it won’t let me add more.
3 likes-Timer still didn’t match up.
-Mr beast still hasn’t talked about the crypto scams, Lunchly, over exaggerating philanthropy, and faking the signature.
The Jake weddle stuff was basically what squid games warned us about. That rich people would exploit the poor’s desperation for money for the sake of entertainment
0 likes@MelodyHayes Have to write here because it won’t let me add more. It’s also deleted some things I wrote.
3 likes-the clock still didn’t add up even if it isn’t CGI.
-In Mr beast investigation he had yet to mention faking his signature, over exaggerating the philanthropy stuff, the crypto scams, Lunchly should also be mentioned now and the other things that weren’t mentioned in this video.
-Perhaps talk about the building wells edit. The eyes thing wasn’t too important because they still ended up getting the money.
Not reading all that but good for you
0 likesFrom airrack to beast. Who next?
0 likesIt's easy to manipulate information to accuse someone of something. its not as easy to manipulate information when fact checking accusations.
0 likeswow dude chill lol
0 likesAnother comment war again
0 likesGood video
1 likeEven now, Mr. Beast still hasn't responded personally.
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He made a comment on this video
1 likeMan they just can't stop the milking machines, what happened, some wires get tangled up or something?
0 likesCan't wait for Nuxanor to react to this. Video idea title: "I Believed DogPack404, He's a Fraud".
0 likesAlt Title: I Researched DogPack404, He's A Fraud
2 likesAnd if you're lying?
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@@Queef_Stormwait which one is the meat rider
0 likesDogPack meat rider identified
1 likeBut he’s not
2 likesThe plot twist to all of this is insane 😭🙏🏻
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Not really. DogPack had little to no evidence for most of his claims to begin with.
0 likesThank you for the informative video. Good way to finish my Sunday. I had an awkward feeling about DogPack from the start. I initially thought it was because I was biased towards MrBeast until I sorta believed the accusations.
1 likeGood to see people like you and some others reveal the truth, so thank you for that. Never expected to see this scandal take this big of a turn. Welp, I genuinely wonder what public opinion on this whole thing will look like going forward.
Maybe I can feel a little less bad for buying several Feastables bars? I mean, it wasn’t until the height of the scandal that they were finally available in Germany after years of waiting, so what can I do.
I was pretty critical with the Mr Beast drama and I only accepted around 1/3rd as legitimate and actually fair. My opinion on Dogpack was half and half but after his recent video that he claimed to forward to the fbi my opinion cratered to one-third. I'm glad to see more things I did not catch.
0 likesI have sunk hours into drama of a content creator I have never watched nor plan on watching.
One more note is staff replacing contestants. It is illegal to due it on tv, but because it is an online show they can do that. To be fair I still find it morally questionable.
The slop is so sticky....
0 likesdefending mr beast pedos😂
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@@Queef_Storm mrbeast is horrible, even ignoring the pedophilic things he’s still a scammer. and funny how he has the money to donate to fake charities but gets the fans to do it while he donates like 2% of money to it
0 likesSince you are under every comment saying dog pack meat rider can I call you soggy meat rider?
0 likes#1 DogPack meat rider. Tell Dawson he can take you off his payroll now
2 likes2 assholes for the price of 1, noice
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And you’re the second one
0 likesNgl, it was a good video. Sorry I underestimated you Soggy. The only problem is that I would switch sides back to MrBeast ONLY IF he WASN’T involved in crypto scams (exposed by Coffee) and being involved and collaborated with the other scammers (Logan Paul and KSI) creating a bad product targeting and scamming kids for more profit, if he wasn’t for that I will be back at team beast. We can’t forget about him promoting gambling to kids to make profit.
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Is that why you deleted your twitter account? I can't find the post where you defending Dogpack from Soggy
0 likesLunchly not that bad the packaging will be fix
0 likesAll crypto is a scam
Yeah and don't forget being friend with a fucking pdf
0 likesHe never said we should switch sides to MrBeast. In fact he acknowledges that Lunchly and Crypto scandals are terrible for him.
3 likesHis termination recording is enough to say he is a disgruntled employee thats trying to make a final ruse.
0 likesgenuinely wondering what rosanna's part is in this story. does she know?
0 likesI know that feastabels does not have Child slaves BECAUSE ITS BEINHG SOLD IN EUROPE 43:00
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Of all the accusations, this one was genuinely a conspiracy theory. “MR BEAST ENSLAVING CHILDREN???” More likely his web team just did some split testing and found that ‘slave free’ wasn’t boosting sales so they took it off that one page on the site
0 likesThese are well refuted; however I don't get why you skimmed over the signature forgery. It seems deceptive to claim that Mrbeast personally signed your shirts, but it ends up being someone else.
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@@chemicalrory Yeah I don't think it's considered fraud, just deceptive overall.
0 likesYeah, it's disingenuous, though I don't know if it can be labelled fraud; the vast majority of youngsters participating will expect a signature from the man himself, knowing otherwise would surely devalue the item for them.
0 likesWould it be so naive of them to think that's what they'll receive?
dressing up as content cop in the big 2024 is crazy💔
0 likesCould you also make a follow up, I want to know more about the free car dealership video and the meteorite hit car video, were those staged or real?
0 likesIf I were these people, Id take this video with a grain of salt too.
0 likesjimmy beast glazing campaign lol. we all see through this blatant PR campaign
0 likesThis just makes the whole MrBeast situation the more deppressing considering that Jake Weddle now looks like a piece of shit for going along with Dogpack445 and “frame” MrBeast for the “allegations” against him.
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Dude don't feel sorry for him he got a good pay check out of this whole thing
1 likeI don’t know why everyone was immediately on Jake’s side after hearing his story. He could have left whenever he wanted (and eventually did) and made over $100k in 2 weeks doing no work. Now he’s blown it all since then and still needs Jimmy’s money to pay off his debt which he didn’t pay off when he had the chance.
0 likesits like idubbz came back
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No N word?
1 likethat pegasus commentator guy is gonna make "Dogpack, hes done" video now
0 likesBirds of a feather… make yt beef against each other
0 likes14:10 DVD logo hits corner
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@@TonyBaloney415 ok
0 likes@@gdstar6917 I have autism
0 likesHow did you catch that
0 likesi could tell dogpack was dumb as rocks when he went off on twitter for faking challenges instead of focusing on the gambling allegations or any of the real serious stuff. made me ask myself why he was doing this and his argument failed from there in my eyes.
0 likesI just want this drama to be over all people are doing now are ruining peoples lives and manipulating their audiences
1 like3 days for the Pegasus video, I'm calling it. Thumbnail will be:"He's done (in red) with Dogpacks image on the right and gray background"
0 likesBros tryna end the slop BY FORCE
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How? i already saw 2 slops videos his video is a boost for the slop channels
0 likesWHAT IS GOING ON ANYMORE
2 likesOn that second point, It was clear that he consented. It seemed clear that it was a comparison that wasn't LEGALLY applicable But aimed to point out the unethical nature of what went on.
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Dude could have left whenever he wanted (and eventually did)
1 likeyeah definitely
0 likesThis scenario right here was very accurately predicted by the late Tom “Black Tiger” Simons, who demonstrated how confusing YouTube drama can get, especially with “stars” who you may have watched since young….honestly at this point only way I’m founding out wether MrBeast is guilty or not is by stepping into the multiverse myself.
0 likesThank you so much man for opening my eye to approaching miscellaneous things. Genuinely, thanks.
2 likesThis is the first 'drama' I've fully embroiled myself in, and I've learnt some substantial lessons when it comes to things like how to accept when I'm in the wrong. And my ears went a little red when I first saw this because I've made some pretty rash statements when I was defending DogPack, and midway through watching this I was like "damn."
Admittedly, I was a 'pretty' (being really light when I say 'pretty') stern believer of a lot of the allegations DogPack said, which I'll be a lot more careful when I'm approaching people like him, and I'll give myself a second chance because I'm still growing and accumulating my own nuance to form a somewhat coherent approach to topics lol
I think his video style and the way he kind of framed himself was subtly sly and manipulative... And piecing it together, I think he knew how to make a mainstream audience easily approach him, because the impression he first gives is that old YouTube and 'hey I'm so homely' vibe (and I guess it can be argued to be more of a stylistic choice, but again, I think it was intentionally done to make him more approachable to a less opinionated audience, you know, be open like Ryan Trahan etc., idk it's just a hunch) and he made a lot of his points less expansive to lure people into this 'plot' he made himself to extensively vilify his colleagues, most likely from malice since he didn't get what he wanted from the things you show verbatim. I believe some points he makes are valid, just insanely altered to fit his narrative.
I still don't believe you 100%, because I know people can be a really biased when it comes to unaccepted interviews and some are pretty dedicated to vilify people who they couldn't get any info out of (I can't think of any first examples but this is the closest I can think of as of now: those burner accounts that get thousands of likes on Twitter - I've never used it just heard examples - that spew the wildest allegations but have absolute 0 merit to them). Don't get me wrong, you make strong arguments, but I'm still side-eyeing this not because you're directly incorrect, it's more to do with your intent since, like my previous point, a soggy rejection can skewer some information into becoming bias rather than fact (and I know this is a strange reference, but it's kind of like Sabine Hossenfelder and her overexaggerated points against academics, even though a lot of her points are valid, they're distorted purely out of her own understandably terrible experience, but are still distorted and kind of misleading).
But even then, MrBeast responding to this like you're his messiah is kind of hilarious since even disregarding DogPack's allegations, he's built a horrible reputation from Lunchly and his possible crypto scam (which I'm leaning more to since it's being investigated by, well, Coffeezilla), which is just so ironic.
I hope that later you still keep this balanced and make MrBeast responsible for the things that are irrefutable, and not be (no ironic pun here) another dog of his just because he gave you a little pat on the head. He's not a good person whatsoever either way, and DogPack is someone whose points I'll have to take a grain of salt from now on. And you, even with all my praise, are someone who too I can't fully trust since I don't know what your next video is going to be about, whether you're going to sit on Jimmy's lap and let him stoke you or be completely immune from his 'join my ally' treatment and still hold him just as accountable for other heinous stuff he's done.
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I also genuinely believe that his (DogPack's) colleagues are people who are genuinely dedicated to philanthropic efforts. Him antagonising the entire MrBeast workforce and saying 'some good workers' and never really emphasising on the amount of genuinely good people there are like it's that one angel who has pure intent of helping and everybody is a cog in the machine kind of leaves a bitter taste because yeah, MrBeast is pretty narcissistic with that Bill Gates mentality, but I think MrBeast Philanthropy is both a ploy to boost himself and a staple of the good his workers have done and I'd say this is kind of grey when you're arguing about intent (not defending MrBeast, but I think DogPack puts way too much shade on the workers).
0 likes7:07 The exact moment he was dead to rights sent tweet
0 likes47:06 this whole section is bs, yes, he got followers and clout. yes, he didnt make money so he needed to work so he isnt using this as an in to the content creation sphere or anything planning on starting to be the next big youtuber. saying that you arent monetizing the video could just try to prevent backlash as much as to brainwash people. there is no concrete proof and by saying this you are picking the side of mrbeast.
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@@jonathanjohnson4594 that is not true, if he starts posting random, uninteresting stuff or even interesting stuff that most people dont care about he might get more views than a channel with 30 subs but its not gonna be enough to make a living or even get sponsorships.
0 likes@@ChaosEater39 Dogpack have the option to continue making videos. The those video will likely be monetized, he gained subscribers from the Mr. Beast video. When those subscribers watch his new videos, he’ll earn money from their views.
2 likesSubscriber are a indirect form of currency the more you have the more the money your videos will make.
@@jonathanjohnson4594 how so? he is not a more likable person because of this, he is not a less controversial person because of this, there is no reason he should have access to more money except if he is planning on getting a gig in the media.
1 likeHe's has easy access to money because of his video he indirectly making money but that still making money
2 likesDogPack meat rider
0 likesWow, this has got to be one of the most in depth investigations I've seen in a while. Really commend your work man, if I'm being honest I was never fully convinced by DogPack's arguments from the beginning, and it feels weird that the person who "exposed" Jimmy is being exposed himself. This has got to be one of, if not the most depth full online controversy that I have ever seen.
0 likesSO they both scumbags?
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@@SpaceLion79 😭😢👩🍼👶🏼 hush my darling, dry those tears
0 likes@@arielperez3613 Coffeezilla says in his video that he doesn't think it was Jimmy and that it was the people around him you bonobo
0 likes@@Queef_Storm I can apologize for thinking he was worse than he was be he is still a bad person my guy
0 likesYes. Dogpack for lying and MrBeast for the crypto scams and treating his contestants like trash in beast games
0 likes@ 😭😢👩🍼👶🏼 hush my darling, dry those tears
0 likes@@Queef_Stormjeez stop riding dude how the fuck are defending Mr beast
1 likeNo, DogPack is a scumbag, but people like you don’t want to change your mind about Mr Beast because it would require admitting to yourself you allowed yourself to be fooled, which is too painful for your ego, but you also can’t deny the proof Soggy has shown here either so the only compromise your ego can make is deciding to believe they’re both bad people.
0 likesThe Nordic friendlyjordies
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Based
1 likeThere are 2 feastabels bars the old one and the new one mr beast was talking about the old one wen he sed it was more healthie 21:30
0 likesWhile the video is overall great and it does highlight that Dogpack404 is unrealiable there are some pretty noticeable holes or problems in the video:
2 likesLike you proved that the Delaware hiring wasn't intentional, you also proved that they didn't immediately fix the problem, even when they found out about him being a RSO, considering the Best Buy video and Insane Asylum video was released one year apart from one another and in the Asylum video his face is covered up.
I am sure this Garrett person is a good guy, and what not,but I find it awkward that we don’t see any tangible proof that's actually him, not anybody else, you could have shown a Dogpack message that he got, or something like that, but no we have to take his word for it that he is the one that sayed that stuff about Delaware and that's it.
47:35 I mean for all intents and purposes he still didn't gain anything tangible from all of this, considering he didn't upload any other videos, beyond the Mrbeast exposes so those subscribers mean pretty much nothing and the moment he is exposed as a fraud those subs and collaborations become even more meaningless, so I really don't understand why Dogpack claiming he doesn't get anything out of this is deceptive, considering the "fame" he got from all of this is not that everlasting.
1:04:45 I agree with the legal and fine part, BUT the signature does become less valuable, if people realize it considering people wanted a Jimmy autograph not an autograph from a random employee. For example if you went to a Beatles concert, in order to get John Lennon's signature on your Beatles T-shirt and years later decide to sell that for a collector only for a handwriting expert to tell you that's not Lennon's handwriting that's Yoko Ono's handwriting at that point the value would be basically worthless.
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to add to that, tony's chocolonely seems quite shady as can be seen in articles as they dont directly have slave workers but their closest ally is one of the most well known slave work involved chocolate companies (Barry Callebaut) and are in no list of slave less chocolate, being straight up just a self proclaimed slave-less chocolate company with many people calling them out but nobody will know this.
0 likesY'all gotta apologize to that guy you harassed for being a "Mr Beast Glazer" and calling dogpack inbred.
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@@gabennewell-ho5ly nah it got deleted it was a bot in the replies
0 likes@@SpaceLion79 Did you reply to the wrong comment?
0 likesBots promoting Christianity? Fuck is going with YouTube i even found a porn promo account
0 likes@@exponentpeak481And you’re still going to find him guilty until proven innocent? It’s like you’ve learned nothing from all of this. I hope someone makes accusations about you and everyone believes them straight away even without any evidence so you get a taste of your own attitude
0 likes@@exponentpeak481 still. that guy was harassed for insulting dogpack and hating on him.
0 likesNah mrbeast is still a horrible person, he still has more allegations than what dogpack claimed
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0 likesRevelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.
Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Yeah.
0 likesthere are multiple articles I could find that Tony's Chocolonely is heavily involved with slave labour and are lying (be reputable anti-slavery organizations) which in my opinion is worthy of a comment on its own because it disproves the disproving of one of the worst claims against mrbeast. it is also not on the slave free chocolate list.
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Where are you going after you die?
0 likesWhat happens next? Have you ever thought about that?
Repent today and give your life to Jesus Christ to obtain eternal salvation. Tomorrow may be too late my brethen😢.
Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto man once to die, but after that the judgement
how much he paid you to make this vid
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DogPack meat rider. Make sure to wipe your chin and tell Dawson thank you after you’re done slurping him up
1 like@@zandikaa Thats pretty much what happens when you dispute false allegations. Mr Beast still has Coffezilla's and Legal Eagles videos and criticisms to address
1 like@@zandikaa Yeah no shit, but it’s not like it makes all the stuff he actually did go away
0 likes@@longjimthealmighty You know just as well as we do that that debunking Dogpack will put Beast in a better light because Dogpack's entire thing is Beast accusations.
1 likeHe only debunked everything that dogpack said, he didn’t really defend Mr. Beast
3 likesThe glazing is so hard on this one. Bro clean up the lunchly slop out of your face.
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wisdom is chasing you but you are faster my brotha
2 likesAll bets you haven’t watched the video.
6 likesI dont fault Dogpack really. He is a disgruntled employee that wanted fame.
2 likesBut Rosanna? She was one of the top youtubers and to se her go down this rabbit hole just because she rescents Mr Beast over her beign edited out of Beast Games #3??? THAT IS SO LOW AND PETTY! She changed her whole persona just for this revenge. That to me is so sad.
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@@godartz3064Yeah, you can absolutely blame DogPack. He tried to ruin someone’s life and it nearly worked
0 likesI blame dogpack he actively hurt people in persuit of fame fuck him
1 likeI used to love her nerdy nummies videos, but god her recent content is just garbage
1 likeNicholasdeorio and Chud Logic been calling this squirmy little mf since day one
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@jonathanjohnson4594 i learned about him and chud logic from the mamamax drama
0 likesNicholas is the goat I only learned of him because of this drama and became a huge fan
1 likeHoodie wearing a Technoblade hoodie made me instantly respect him alot
0 likesMakes sense… his last names is French
2 likes59:47 I've debunked the whole video above... at this timestamp he is sticking a pencil up his nose, not a crayon.. way to spread misinformation buddo!
4 likesWhen Dogpack came out with his first video I was on his side, but as the next few videos came out something about them rubbed me the wrong way. But no matter what kind of person dogpack is, he was the tipping point that started this whole exposing fiasco.
0 likes41:20 does anyone have any evidence of the original PewDiePie clip. I'd like to believe you but it's weird you showed evidence of manipulation every time except for here.
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@@soggycerealz thank you 😊 🙏🏻
1 likeI appreciate the quick reply.
https://youtu.be/NF1iwS6qFhk?si=i_K5-PiHMeex10Jo&t=190
4 likes@@Random_Alt pewdiepie never even made a vid about mrbeast
0 likes@CertifiedDumboMC ??
2 likesGod forbid I ask for evidence of EVERYTHING.
I just think it's odd he'd show every piece of evidence besides that so I was wondering if anyone knew what video the clip was from that dogpack used.
r u serious?
0 likesI liked the content cop thumbnail better
0 likesMaybe Ludwig being a dick rider was a good thing
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@@Queef_Stormmogalmail made me hate Ludwig so much more
0 likesNah, he turned his back on Jimmy after Dawson’s second video. He reacted to it live, at first saying “what’s the problem? Jake could leave at any point”, then noticed he was getting tons of pushback from his chat and later in the video said “hmm, no, actually, that is messed up”, then made the mogul mail video saying he couldn’t support Jimmy anymore
0 likesGenuinely think Pegasus might have a stroke after this
4 likesThis needs to get more views this has blown way out of proportion.
1 likeYou Either Die a Hero or Live Long Enough to See Yourself Become the Villain
1 likeI can't believe all these employees would speak glowingly about their employer on camera 🙄
3 likesThe meat riding is CRAZY
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@jonathanjohnson4594 Yeah, but I'm pretty sure Rosanna didn't have loli plastered in her living room. It's quite different to somebody who loves loli sharing that pic and somebody who is just stupid.
0 likes@@zandikaa true it just give a more full picture of the situation.
0 likesRosanna showed what she thought was c p too so she get some blame here too.
@jonathanjohnson4594 She shared it regardless, you dunce. Her intent to share an image of what she perceived as a 13 year old was there.
0 likes@@zandikaa To be fair Ava didn't enjoy the picture she was disgusted by it the same way Rosanna was she just reported way stupider.
0 likesYou’re riding DogPack’s meat right now
0 likes@@Spamtonontoilet_562 Watched the video and yeah, meat riding is crazy.
1 likeA lot of the things debunked are negligible. It's about ethics.
Dogpack has messed up a LOT in terms of false allegations, and that isn't okay, but most of the things he has said is rooted in reality (yes, even the Ivanka thing. Accusing somebody of being a pedophile when you have no proof is never okay, but we can't discredit the fact that Ava shared that image BELIEVING she was 13). Think about how much has come out SINCE his video that has verifiable proof. We now have evidence that Beast has been doing shady crypto things for example and also not paying people in charity videos.
The meat riding is CRAZY did you even watch the video
1 likei might not trust dogpack, but how about coffezilla. mrbeast is at the same level as logan paul, probably worse with how much audience he scammed for his crypto shit.
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Even coffeezilla said there’s no proof that Jimmy did any of the crypto stuff and that it wasn’t the people around him. You’re still going to find him guilty until proven innocent? You’ve learned nothing from this drama
0 likesDid you not watch till the end
0 likesIt makes no sense debunking Airrack so harshly when Mack were in his videos and obviously knew and now working for MrBeast expecting everything to be legit there
0 likesPegasus is going to walk into his recording room like a dark souls boss
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Aww there there, I know it can be hard to find out you were wrong, have some milk baby 👩🍼
0 likesBro, didn't watch the video
2 likesWow soggy. All your integrity went out the window. In your knees for Mr beast. Lotteries are not ok when aimed at kids. Lost all respect for you and unsubscribed
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Translation: I ate up DogPack’s lies and my ego can’t take finding out I allowed myself to be so easily fooled so I’m just going to stick my fingers in my ears and go on the offensive instead
1 like@hamiwiremu7154 yeah when people dont make any other judgements, but I plan on watching the video
0 likes@@nineexists6621 mate, what you've described is making a pre-judgement. Prejudice, as they say. A lot of societies issues stem from this way of thinking
0 likes@@nineexists6621 But u just said u didn;t see it, because if u did u'd know soggy literally shows dogpack FAKED evidence to lie about mrbeast doing illegal lotteries
1 likeHe literally showed that dogpack FAKED evidence to make it seem like mrbeast did illegal lotteries while he actually didn't lol wtf are u on about
2 likes@@nineexists6621I have an insane idea for you. Watch the video before you make your verdict. It’s like saying you don’t like celery because your friend says he doesn’t like celery.
3 likes@@Ablonorid so im not allowed to make judgements based on what I see? Its not like i just decided that thats all I'll judge on, im just putting out how I feel not having seen it yet.
0 likes@@nineexists6621no way you haven’t even watched it lmao
8 likesLiterally, this feels so bought out, I'll watch the full thing later, but based solely on what I'm seeing without watching it, its hella suspicous, even got the real mr beast to respond.
0 likesI mean for the cgi claims dogpack isn’t really wrong. The pit I think he’s referring to the one that show in the small clip. Dogpack never said the buses were cgi or that the train was cgi. He said the shot of the wheels moving (buses)was fake and the train tracks were fake. (Idk why u didn’t show the clip of him saying that)That shredder dogpack shows is cgi. The one he shows is very different from the one u show.
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@ I never said show what they are doing in the start. I’m saying why use cgi on a clip at the start when u can just use the clip from the footage u recorded. again read my comments.
0 likes@@pariahfnm3365 why would people stick around to watch the rest of a vid if they show them doing what's in the title at the start. I would stop watching
0 likes@ what r u on abt? There is no difference in viewership if u show the actual clip. Just showing the clip saves him more time than to cgi a whole new scene for no real reason
0 likes@@pariahfnm3365 Yeah I prolly would so viewers watch the video longer to see the real thing, is it scummy to want to have the viewer to watch more of the video to get higher views? I don't think so but I could see why people would think it is. it's not faking a (part of the) video though
0 likes@@JulieWooly-pn6tx so you’ll cgi a preview instead of using the actual clip?
0 likes@@pariahfnm3365 but a part isn't fake? When you show a cgi version of what you;re gonna do later, then that part is not fake, it's a cgi preview lol.
0 likes@ did u just not read my comment? Like I said I disagree with the claim of cgi’ing a clip equals a fake video. But dogpack is gunna use it as oh he faked a part of the video so by technicality the video (at least a part) is fake. Maybe read my comment next time?
0 likes@@pariahfnm3365 are u crazy? if u title ur video "lamborgini v shredder" and eventually shred a real lamborgini in a shredder it's not faking it lol
0 likes@ that is faking lol. Me personally I’ve always thought the “cgi=fake videos” argument was dumb but technically u r faking part of ur vid so in dogpacks mind its faking a video. All of those clips dogpack used was cgi and the ones soggy gives explanations on are either out of context or just flat out wrong
1 likeBut dogpack used that as claims that his videos were fake while they weren't and in the interviews they talk about the cgi on the pit being for safety openly
0 likesdogpack always struck me as a pretentious asshole, thanks for the video
1 likeActual research and not just nodding along to everything dogpack says??? :O
3 likesi never supported mrbeast dont get me wrong. But something about dogpack juts rubbed me the wrong way. im so glad i have a valid reason to hate this "perfect angel"
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@@SpaceLion79 i swear im not a bot
0 likesDude people are talking about how much they hate how Jimmy act “his stare is so fake” “he has no joy behind his eyes” but dogoack has been way worse from his first video.
0 likesI've seen 3 comments with the same "I didn't support Mr beast but i knew something was wrong with this dogpack guy" pattern suspicious asf
0 likesIm just here to hate Mr. Beast.
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Perhaps you should find a different video.
1 likeI love that no one actually did a proper investigation and believed Dog Pack 404. Classic Twitter moment
2 likesAlways verify claims, people!
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I mean Mr beast have an entire team why couldn't he debunk him if it was that obvious
1 likeThis video literally focuses on Dogpack for the most part and tries to half heartedly dismiss the actual allegations against mrbeast by picking only the errors dogpack made and address those.
9 likesFeels like mrbeast set you up to this, especially when you were leaked that call with dogpack begging not to get fired from the company. Mrbeast commenting is the cherry on top.
You are a cheap shill and nothing more. Also stop changing the title like a view hungry goblin.
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Wow imagine that, a video exposing Dogpack mostly consists of talking about Dogpack. So shocking! He also addressed most of Dogpack's fundamental claims, he didn't nitpick errors.
0 likesDelusional conspiracy theorist.
@@Queef_Stormdude fuck the situation who tf are you??
0 likesI saw a comment for 5 hours ago and another one 15 minutes ago and you have 100+ comments on this channel don't have anything better to do with your life than these redditor replies!?
This is the comment equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going ALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU. Grow tf up dude. You’re just embarrassed to find out you allowed yourself to be so easily fooled by DogShart404. You’re going to be wrong about people sometimes. Get used to it.
0 likesPeople who defend mrbeast are getting fewer views and way more hate than people shitting on him u f*ck*ng id*ot
0 likesyou're so stupid wow
0 likesDid you not watch till the end? This is the third time I’ve said this.
1 likeYou must be literally stupid
1 like…
0 likesWHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
Delusional
0 likesHe goes after MrBeast too.
1 like1M $ lawyer spotted 🥶
5 likesI was waiting for this video from the first day dogpack started the drama
1 likeGood job big boy we love u from Québec 😊🎉
6 likesyou were probably paid to make this video.
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@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms why would he raise legitimate claims? because there is ALREADY hard proof out there that he is guilty of them. Paying one guy to agree with them changes nothing except make him seem more objective and unbiased. Again I am not saying for sure that he was paid off, but I would not be surprised in the slightest if he was
0 likes@aram00001 I called you obtuse because you're pushing the narrative that Soggy made this video in defense of MrBeast rather than in opposition of Dogboy when literally anyone with the slightest understanding of the context of this video can prove that wrong.
0 likesYet when Dogboy tries pressuring Soggy into making a video against MrBeast, nobody cares, but when Soggy makes his video wronging Dogboy, people start pushing this stupid argument and buy it.
And if MrBeast DID pay Soggy to make this, why would Soggy downright admit that Jimmy committed an illegal lottery that someone could face legal charges for? That's a complete break in promise if that was the case.
You're not proving a point, you're being disingenuous by pushing a false narrative.
Maybe if you cry harder it will drown out the sound of all the lies you believed
0 likes@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms also im wondering how mr beast is going to dodge the coffeezilla video that basically shows he made tens of millions of dollars from crypto rug pulling. the coffeezilla bullet is not one that you can dodge lol.
0 likes@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms cant believe you are deliberately obtuse enough to think that if mr beast orchestrated a hit piece against his critic he wouldn't tell the creator to hit him on the most obvious mistakes to give the video an ounce of credibility and objectivity
0 likes@@nineexists6621 Are you stupid? Yeah obviously he got info only mrbeast employees could know BECAUSE HE WAS IN CONTACT WITH DUSTIN, he literally says it in the video. is it so crazy to think mrbeast left a comment maybe because this is the first creator not mindlessly slandering him in the past 4 months? Also taking that description seriously is f*ck*ng ret*rded wow
0 likes@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms except somehow he got a bunch of info only mr beast's team could provide whereas far more credible sources haven't, and he got a response from the mr beast account, despite them completely dodging all of the actually important allegations, not to mention his desscription literally says $1 detective vs. $1,000,000 detective.
0 likesAh yes, the video he's being paid to make is the video that he not only criticized Dogboy, but also criticized MrBeast for Lunchly, Crypto scams, and well as the 1st illegal lottery.
3 likesStop being so deliberately obtuse.
Honestly didn't expect dogpack to be exposed, but eh the world continues to move and this will be over in like a year and everyone will be focused on the next big thing or exposé, as we all have done in the past and definitely in the future too.
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And everyone will have learned nothing and absolutely crucify the next big creator who has accusations made against them before they hear both sides of the story
0 likesmy schools principal is the husband of the winner/ a contestant in multiple mrbeast videos
0 likesLove the $1 detective vs $1,000,000 detective in the description
1 likeThe mrbeast glazing is insane, reported channel
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Boohoo mf learn to accept when you were wrong about something
0 likesReported channel? lol ohhhh noooo anything but that 😱
5 likes🤡 🤡
Point me to the MrBeast glazing.
11 likesI feel like you had not watched the video
13 likestime to resubscribe to the breast mister
1 likeThe war crime comment can be both a joke and true. crazy. I know.
1 likeNo one is actively charging Mr. Beast with war crimes. They are comparing the conditions in the video to war crimes.
That's why I alleged it. Yes. that's what he did. look up the definition of alleged.
Holy shit its not spreading misinformation to put something in your video and then directly afterward say that it's ai.
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@@ukulelevillain4170 Gotta love how this guy chooses to debunk none of my points and started tossing out first grade level insults.
0 likes@@Ablonorid yes it can be both at the same time. Maybe turn on your brain for a bit.
0 likes@@Ablonorid”adding more poo to the toilet” genuinely made me chuckle
1 likeIf someone had war crimes committed against them, would they really make a joke about it?
3 likesEither way, it absolutely cannot. Something cannot be a joke and a fact at the same time.
EDIT: OK, this guy’s going to keep editing this as he watches the video, and just adding more poo to the toilet, so I will be doing the same.
Dogpack hasn’t accused MrBeast of war crimes, but the entire commentary community has, and Dogpack has said nothing about it. It falls on him.
He titled the video something along the lines of “exposing MrBeast for secret recording”. He’s at best a clickbaiter, or at worst a scumbag liar trying not to be sued.
8:42
4 likesThis man was absolutely not hurt mentally or financially by his completely anonymous voice being used in a video. He did not lose any relationships. No one heard his voice changed voice in a youtube video about Mr. Beast, realized for 100% sure that it was him, and then immediately cut ties because he dared to slander the great Mr. Beast.
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@ do you want to know the reason why he never played the recording in this video that was supposedly seen right through? Because if you go and rewatch it it is incredibly obvious that no one would ever be able to identify you through it.
0 likesHe lost relationships in his own life. People online won’t care, but people he knew would recognize his voice instantly and get mad.
2 likes@@ukulelevillain4170 cool conspiracy theory bro you should work for infowars after the Onion takes over management
0 likes@@ukulelevillain4170 totally bro people cant pick up voices through crappy poorly implemented filters and spread that to co-works and associates def not especially not on a viral video.
0 likesyou are a fucking moron
@@intothevoid9831 He did. Its so obvious to any human being on this earth that no one would ever be harmed by their voice being run through a filter and played in a youtube video.
0 likesif you say so random internet person im sure he just made all that up for no reason
1 likeNot only was dogpack404 a disgruntled employee at mr beast's company since day 1 but he also responsable for all of the predatory "mr beast is evil" videos by slop commentary channels, and it's all thanks to his lies... Thse viewers seriously servers better
0 likesAlso i pretty much believe soggy and thank him for uncovering this life ruining epidemic and if anyone tell me in the comments tell me that he's in the wrong then please keep it to yourself
the first conversation seems so staged/legal talk
1 likeBABE WAKE UP SOGGY CEREAL POSTED (there is no babe)
2 likesThe Dogpack meatriders in the comments are crazy ☠️
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I think both MrBeast and dogpack are bad people.
0 likes@ Preach
0 likesFr bro. They have all the time in the world to listen to DogBoy404, but they seemingly can't listen to videos criticizing him lol.
1 likeThis drama keeps getting worse
2 likesWe need to apologize to Ali koca
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@@Queef_Storm I never said anything to me beast fr
0 likesForget Ali, y’all need to apologise to Mr Beast
0 likes@@That_other_guy69 Yeah he is weird about talking about that like keep it to your self
0 likesTo some degree, but he's still weird for talking about that "happy ending"
0 likesYes.
0 likes42:46 yo im in the video
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Hello famous person
0 likesMan I’m just happy that this happened, because I genuinely want to feel that mr beast is a good person, and not some big evil mastermind.
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@@ChaosEater39Fact denier, DogPack meat rider, big crier, believed a liar
0 likesbut... he isnt? this video doesnt ever say that, its just represented to prove that mrbeast is not as bad as said in the worst cases. its probably paid for by mrbeast, can be disproven in many instances and is overall not very good.
2 likesHe’s not a good person
3 likesSoggyCereal is single handedly saving MrBeasts reputation
1 likeClout Chasing at its finest while gaslighting all the crap Jimmy has done.
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I know it’s easier to insist that Jimmy is still evil than it is to consider you’ve been drinking from DogPack’s meat this whole time for nothing, but if you can learn to admit to yourself when you’ve been brain dead and gullible you can really grow as a person. Or just do what you’re doing now and learn nothing so the next guy who lies to you will have an equally easy time fooling you. Up to you.
0 likesI don't even knows what's happening anymore
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me neither tbh
0 likesMm
0 likesDustin's beard is immaculate. Never been so impressed by one before, holy frick.
2 likesHow much did Mr beast pay you
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DogPack meat rider
0 likesHow much did Dogboy pay you to leave this comment?
1 likeHmmmmm with my guess At most $0
0 likes10 dogpacks
1 likethis lore go fucking crazy
1 likewhat is happening
1 likeYour proofs are just shit even more shit than Dogpack yet you claim you are legit then where proof real ones with reciepts ? if DOGPACK is liar etc why no one suing him ? or proving him wrong ? Why jimy cousin not attacking him with legal power ? sure dogpack liar and piece of shit right ?
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Oh man, this video really upset you, huh? I’d be mad too if I found out I had let myself be tricked into slurping Dawson’s doggy nut for nothing
0 likesDogPack is NOT gonna make puppies with you bro 😭
2 likesMy god man, seek help.
1 likeI had a stroke reading this.
3 likesAnd Jimmy DID sue him!
Just because one person is bad, doesn't make the other person suddenly good.
26 likesEverything Dogpack said is still valid, and to be honest, I'd be more concerned about a BILLIONAIRE manipulating his fans than a literal nobody.
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@DDArtsArts I don't like any of the people involved? I've always thought dogpack was weird ever since his first video with how unprofessionally he was making the allegations, and made his allegations seem more like content than a serious exposé. But if I had to pick the lesser of two evils, I'd pick dogpack because at least he's not a global brand.
0 likes@@zandikaa Bro has NO standards
2 likes@@DDArtsArts I mean, I watched it all. I'm guessing you lack media comprehension if you can't figure out that somebody can make mistakes and be deceptive WHILE also making valid claims in other statements? Regardless of what Dogpack has forged, it has done good in the end by giving others the courage to speak out. Does it muddy the waters? Yes. But so does this video by not addressing the other research and follow ups that dogpack has done when things have come to light to be false.
0 likesTbh, so what if he's a disgruntled employee? Mr Beast shouldn't be a corpo scumbag scamming and deceiving his child audience. I'd take disgruntled shithead that's pretty much a literal who and only known for bitching about Mr beast than Youtube's golden boy who was best friends with a creep and KNEW she was a creep and STILL allowed her to work in an environment that gave her access to children.
@@invisibilius1978 I watched the entire damn thing, sweetums.
1 likeEverything dogpack said is rooted within reality, and has lead to more allegations and truth coming out regardless if he's involved or not. For example: the crypto stuff.
So valid that half of it could be debunked with just one google search each
2 likessomeone didnt watch the video
4 likes@@Infra-Aesir "Just to hate a stranger" wtf kinda framing is that
0 likes"Everything Dogpack said is still valid" tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video
4 likesthey're both terrible people, not a lot of things both sides said are valid, and both are manipulative no matter how you look at it. i don't care about comparing who is more right, both are evil.
5 likesThis is probably the craziest and best researched video of the year. Hat's off to you soggy!
1 likeI think that this video would be better left to the dustbins of history, Dawson is a piece of shit, but all this video is gonna achieve is that people who previously believed him will now be back on team Beast and he will face even less consequences for the things he has actually done. Let's be realistic, most people are either too young or too stupid for the nuance necessary to hate both sides without it being spelled out for them, which you didn't.
6 likesBoth of them are bad. That’s the conclusion I’m coming to
3 likesDogpack is somewhat similar to Topher from Total Drama
1 likeI think Mrbeast acting really guilty by deleting comments was part of the reason why we thought he was suspicious too
0 likesReported for misinformation
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@@Thecanadianseige69 that's just sad bro, hopefully you grow up and understand that criticism isn't a sin.
0 likes@@freashapplesNothing. People just don’t like to have their beliefs challenged. Imagine you spent months believing a liar and hating the wrong guy only to find out how easily you were fooled? You’d be mad, and if you’re particularly pathetic, you’d blame the guy who revealed how gullible you really are for embarrassing you like that. Learn nothing, never take self-responsibility, and blame others, that’s how people like this work.
1 likeWhat thing in this video is misinformation?
1 likePoint me to the misinformation.
4 likesThe 3 minutes of the video are dedicated to criticizing the guy paying you for the video.
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He’s not paid he literally exposed airrack who is a know friend of beast (I don’t like beast either) but I do like soggy and if you watch his other videos you know he is definitely not paid
0 likesWhat a twist! Who would've thought? 🤔
0 likesppl in comment section still glazzing mr meats
5 likesgo to 52:07 Weed.
0 likesThe description is so badass
0 likesPegasus rn: 🤑🤑🤑
5 likesas someone who watched higehiro i was SHOCKED when he said it was a romance about pedophilia its actually so wholesome
0 likes27:15 this is PROOF MR BEAST KNEW ABOUT AVA
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If only you watched at least 4 more minutes…
0 likes@ i'm saying the first hand evidence supports the claim that was made. you are lost in the sauce to say calling out pedophilia is pathetic
0 likesMan these threads are so pathetic
0 likes@ hahahaha context matters... so posting photos of what he belives to be a kid IS the context to say he knew he's a pedophile. at not point did anyone say anything against pedophilia. this "context" you refer to does not exist
0 likes@drak_darippa “Context matters” 28:16
0 likes@ he was…he was under the name “john smith”
1 like@@kthdiors The chats Ava shared these in Mrbeast was not in.
0 likes@@Austin252 mrbeast was literally in the chats while ava was openly sharing weird shit…how can you say he didn’t know about her behavior especially when they were best friends for literal decades??
0 likes@@kthdiors wdym?
0 likes@@Austin252 are you slow?
1 like@@drak_darippa Either way MrBeats didn;t know about Ava
0 likes@ the post ava made claimed it was a picture of a 13 yr old. it doesnt matter if the photo wasnt.
2 likesava thought it was and said it was. and shared it in a chat mr beast was in. and saw
@@Austin252it doesn’t matter if Ivanka wasn’t 13. The fact that they willingly shared it with the intent of sharing cp is already a bad look
3 likes@@drak_darippa It was debunked the person was not 13
2 likesThat doesn’t mean he knew that ava was a pedo. One evidence is not enough to believe “oh, my friend is an a fucking pedo” Also trump was not a minor. yall gotta use actual common sense
0 likes@ its not fake or photoshoped. but ava got it from a thread on 4chan or some shit, saying it was a 13 yr old half naked. that is a crime. even if its not a real child
2 likes@@drak_darippa That picture is proved fake and photoshopped
0 likes@ mr beast was in the same chat when ava put an image they described as being a child. so he knew ava was looking up and sharing what they all beleived to be cp.
2 likesHow?
0 likesYou were paid to make this video lol
2 likesFinally: the other side of the argument
0 likesmist
0 likesor beast
sooo
2 likesmr, beast was the victim in all of it?
like, except the shithole that is the MAN Ada/chris. he seems to be a good guy with a good track record that evil, i dont have any other way to describe, evil people want to take down.
why the hell first world people, instead of been happy for toher, want to destroy them
have you never really struggle? do you really have such LOW morals? why?
the only true thing i cant accept is the lunchy and logan paul collaborationm logan paul is another shithole
even with his popularity it should be avoided, that is something jimmy really mess up
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i want that fart gun !
0 likesWhile i agree with the critic about dogpack, it was very one sided, any situation that dogpack was bad/wrong you completely exonerated mr beast:
28 likes-Mr beast was young so its fine that he hired a sex offender (ignoring that later the guy appeared in a mr beast video with his face hidden and with a sudonim, at least impling that then he knew the truth and didnt fire him)
-Torturing someone and pressuring them to stay because of money is bad but its wrong for a random friend to call it a warcrime
-The lotteries were legal (even thou he used misleading info like: someone in the next 5 minutes gets a prize then 7 minutes later he gives it)
-Mack didnt have a mansion so its fine that mr beasts own employee gets preferencial treatment (like getting a free car and competing in multiple challenges)
-Dogpack is a liar so the things about Locoya Hill arent true
The video should have talked about what mr beast did wrong in every situation instead of just debunking dockpack, otherwise the "both are bad people" angle doenst work when one guy did a ilegal lottery that is comom to not know about and he is maybe a crypto scammer while the other guy is a disgruntled employe that lied about all but one thing
The accusation board shows my point perfectly, it makes it look like mr beast only did a illegal lottery
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@@avalopeCrypto scams aren’t mistakes though.
0 likes@@avalope You know how the internet works, if this video gets popular it will become the new truth and then because the video does minimal reference to mr beast’s possible wrong doings, critcism against him will be disregarded, because the main mr beast critic was a liar, im not saying for the vídeo to say that mr beast is bad, just to at least acknolage that the debunked situations arent complet lies.
0 likesPlus jimmy having hired a sex offender, competition being openly rigged in the boys vs girls vídeo and lying about going to an isolated abandoned city are all confirmed acusations made by dogpack coincidentaly omited in the acusation board to make it seam that jimmy is less guilty (if the reason for delaweres name is valid then só should these)
@@avalope dude are you blind?, iliegal lotery, torutrue, and now this shit about healthier product, a associete with 2 big scamers for the same product, mondy cheese, crypto scams, i give a shit about dogpack he only open the pandora box, even in the investigation touch nothing about ilegal loterys and aloot of another allegation, mistake happens 1 time but for ilegal loterys happen aloot, he sell a brand say all is real when not that false advertisement, he know perfectly what is doing and just try to shield with "donation and charity" you know what, that what rich people do for dont pay taxes, again i dont give a shit abotu dogpack he just give the initial momentun to the snowball, and even is just a 10% of all allegation are true is enought maybe no for jail but for have some chargerse and fees
0 likesMrBeast has made many mistakes, just like everyone else has in the world. but its innocent until proven guilty. and making things up to try to make people believe mrbeast is guilty. when there is legitimate reasons to believe, is also a big problem.
1 likeedit: MrBeast mistakes just happen to be pretty harmful to others
he never said it was fine.
3 likes-he said he was young and inexperienced so there was no malicious intent.
-warcrime its literally not a warcrime.
-MrBeast made bad decisions for the lotteries
- employees are allowed to receive benefits others are not given. especially if an employee is more valuable to a company/team.
- he said at least in the beginning that dogpack being a liar buts all other accusations against mrbeast in jeopardy. (he added ? to the remaining accusations)
The video was about dogpack maliciously spreading misinformation online. And to try to find the truth amongst the lies of dogpack. this should be a reminder that people will do many things for fame,money, and revenge. There already are tons of videos exposing MrBeast. like the coffeezilla video that just came out. and the video is already 1.5 hours long. it would taken him more time to talk about related topics to what this specific video is about. Fact Checking happens all the time in media. just search up" fact checking insert politician name here
sound like dani
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@ look up the channel
0 likesWho is dani
0 likesBro did a better job defending mr beast than mr beast himself
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I AM 100% he will sue dogpack
0 likeslike, half of this shit is literally him lying, not even by omision, by editing the stuff and exposing false facts.
so, that makes jimmy unable to comment since the his lawyers would tell him to stay put.
this video is literally a big big piece evidence for them.
I can logically and easily dissect this video from the first minute until the last and prove that this video proves literally nothing. this guy is using 20% absolute facts that prove dogpack is shady (which we already knew) and then just makes it seem like because this 20% is true every other part of the 80% is all rainbows and roses.
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Are you ok?
0 likessomone got a paycheck from MrBeat for PR work......
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No paycheck, just fed information and given a little push in the right direction. Mr beast is smart enough to know that if he posts his own video debunking the minutiae and then stretching the more believable debunk points from those over everything, people will see through all of the specificities and understand his motive; to clear his name at all costs and discredit dogpack. But if a smaller, YouTuber seemingly disconnected from him, like soggy here, is simply 'allowed' to discover all the favourable resources and prompts (as well as being flown out to North Carolina, perhaps by beast himself just to 'help' with his independent investigations) to use that same technique for him, as well as being someone with enough emotional and spiteful motivation through his interactions with the certainly irritable dogpack to make the video himself, then the same arguments in the same video framework will be seen, and will appear much more organic. Mr beast and his team have simply adjusted the conditions, and allowed nature to take its course.
0 likeshave you actualy watch the video?
4 likesthis needs to have more views than the dogpack video i feel so manipulated
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real
0 likesegg
0 likes@@Johnny-z3qI'm to tired to think twice and I just couldn't care about the internet 😅
0 likesYo it's the one and only soggy cereap
0 likesYeah bro I feel so manipulated and I swore to myself never to be manipulated again from now on if I see a expose video I am not trusting them nor the person they are accusing
2 likesnever trust anyone fr
0 likes🥩
1 likeyou have a point
1 likeSteak your Lowkey cringe, but I agree.
11 likesw steak
4 likesFr, people still think dogpack is right
6 likes"He's hurting the philanthropy"
3 likesFucker, it's a scam. The company doesn't help nearly as many people as they claim. These are legitimate claims of money laundering.
I’m glad someone went into this. The dust definitely hasn’t settled on what Mr Beast is or isn’t, but I immediately hated how much people 100% trusted the allegations when the immediate evidence suggested dogman had something to gain (popularity, a channel, and possibly revenge) and may not have been trustworthy (one of Mr Beast’s employees explained that dogman had only worked a couple weeks and was clearly lying about some behind-the-scenes facts he shared).
2 likesAt the end of the day, allegations like this should be treated seriously, but not just immediately trusted.
this is clearly propoganda. You can hear it if you're wise enough.
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0 likeslil bro is coping
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Get off fraudpack’s meat 🙄
2 likesGet off fraudpack's meat 🙄
2 likesGet off fraudpack's meat 🙄
2 likesGet off fraudpack's meat 🙄
2 likesSo what you're telling me is mrbeast took some poor kids jobs in the cacao industry?!
0 likesimaginebroisglazingmrbeastlol
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Get off fraudpack's m.. aww man the chain has been broken :(
0 likesBro, stop trying to make puppies with DogPack and watch the video
0 likesGet off fraudpack's meat 🙄
0 likesGet off Fraudpack's meat 🙄
0 likes😅😅😅
0 likesYknow going back into YT drama after returning from jumping into the rabbit hole of political fallout... I am glad for this softcore
0 likesI want you too investigate logan paul 1:27:02
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that would eb a +5 hours video XD
0 likesthis needs more views
0 likesWhy I feel like over this everyone will forget the actual claim's that have been confirmed like him faking his videos and having fake signature's? no one is perfect but instead of accepting this I feel like the attention will be now turned into to one thing and forget another one just like how internet forget all of these claims and dogpack once Lunchly drama came out.
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0 likesdogpack is a visual representation of villain origin story
0 likesI can’t do this anymore 😭
2 likesThis video is crazy, I couldn't imagine a better exposing of what a pack of lies Dogpack AND Rosanna are responsible for. Jilted weirdos.
0 likeswoah! this video goes so hard, I HOPE this will be noticed
1 likeI've seen a few videos uploaded within hours apart, some of which have never even covered the Mr Beast scandal, but now suddenly uploading within hours apart, with similar motive and strategy (expose dogpack while mentioning Mr Beast allegations, so they look like auto exoneration for each Mr Beast scandal). Seems very weird these channels have full researched videos uploaded within hours apart (regardless of their length), almost like Mr Beast team handpicked certain channels and fed them info, but this could be just a coincidence). And unlike 10 minute videos, I saw ones like 30 minutes or 1 hour+ long. They are even outperforming other channels that just release 10 minute videos. Almost feels like there are certain information they were fed and had to cover. The general tactic seems to be find something dogpack lied/exaggerated, then make it seem like Mr Beast is auto exonerated from that entire scandal/topic.
7 likesIt is weird to see channels that never covered it now upload videos, some 30min long, some hour+ long, all have detailed dogpack research, all uploaded within hours apart (despite their different video lengths). Ofc, channels that already were supporting Mr Beast also uploaded as well. Almost feels like at least some of these channels were contacted by Mr Beast or his team to orchestrate this.
After noticing this, I remembered we do have evidence that Mr Beast was going to attack dogpack's character so I'm guessing this is step 1.
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@@Phintan9 I mean what he said was correct is a valid reason as far as we know, but what the fuck does "He said that he was not not defending mr beast in the video " is going to prove?! if anyone is truthful just because he said he does this or that, there would be no drama now, would there ?
1 likeHe said that he was not not defending mr beast in the video also what he said was correct
0 likesHope more people see this comment
1 likeI would say some of the allegations are true but around the 3rd video DogPack made thats when things started getting less about facts and more about crazy stuff that gets views
2 likesAnd Jimmy aka MrBeast I would say is mostly innocent
50:50 mrwhostheboss mentioned
0 likesHahahahhahahahhah no shit he lied. Who goes on such a warpath for being fired after three weeks. Was this his first job ever? Does he know that almost EVERY other industry has a probation period of 1-6 months? Is he stupid?
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0 likesYou are making some valid points but in a way it is coming off as disingenuous just like how the Dogpack videos sounded
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How does it? he's presenting the facts.
1 likeI have watched the Soggy Movie 😁
2 likesthat pewdiepie clip is taken out of context aswell
2 likesI'm sorry, but you already lost me at one of the first sentences being "Mr Beast being scrutinized is bad for the philanthropy." That's your edit placing that there. That's you priming the audience for an opinion. Yeah Dogpack isn't unbiased (obviously), but neither clearly, neither are you.
12 likesMr Beast doesn't do philanthropy - he exploits a broken system for clout and money.
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What????
0 likesWhat are you smoking
He didn't say that, what he said was Dogpack's video hurting philantrophy by MrBeast, which is true. The guy discredits many philanttophy done by MrBeast by taking things out of context, or discrediting it with very poor statements such as "cgi". Mr Beast does philantrophy, and have contributed many good deeds. Its undeniable even if Jimmy wasn't a good person at all
0 likes@@gewnurbI’m sorry to just randomly barge into this conversation. This was of course not the main point of your comment but don’t you believe that the writers of said economy books have a certain interest in telling everyone that our current system is the only functioning economy. They profit from the current system as well and would lose if a fairer system would be implemented. Also book publishing is an expensive endeavour and so big publishing houses (that again have an interest in perpetuating the current system) are needed for a book to become popular. So perhaps there are other non-mainstream economy books that aren’t as biased to the forgone conclusion of these other books. Just food for thought. Have a nice day : )
1 like@@gewnurb charity and help can't be done without cameras rolling too. there's evidence that his " philanthropy " is all bs, look at the people who did the eye surgery, they haven't got paid for 2 years when they started speaking online about it. the videos are heavily edited to look favorable to his business.
0 likesso, do you think the people mrbeast has helped would be better off with or without his help? it's not like he's got the power to overthrow the world economy and make it fair for everyone (which, if you've read an economy book, you can realize it makes no sense and isn't possible), so the next best thing to do is to help the people that were born without the resources to follow their dreams, but no, since a system set 400 years ago causes people to be poor, anyone trying to help those poor people is automatically a bad person
2 likesAli koca will have field day about this LMFAOOO
0 likesoh, wow... thank you for doing this
0 likesyou're still a mr beast glazer. just from the fact that he is associate with that scumbag Logan and KSI is enough proof to what kind of person he is. period.
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@@BasherBeans who cares if it's " marketing "
6 likesHe is literally the most successful person on youtube, and still chooses to colab with that piece of shit.
It's called "Marketing." It's like mascots for Brands.
0 likesI must comment for the algorithm...
0 likesThe slop can't stop, we're on to the REAL TRUTH FRFR now because the truth isn't enough.
0 likeswow i never expected to see this counter argument well no one is good then i think i will be in neutral in this i will just watch and enjoy the chaos
2 likesmr beast is a FRAUD. Mr. Fraud. he still owes me multiple cookies.
2 likesWe're living in a South Park episode, aren't we?
2 likesMrBeast drama should be adapted into anime.
3 likesDID WE NOT LEARN FROM THE DREAM SITUATION YALL?! DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE TRUSTING UNTRUSTWORTHY PEOPLE LIKE DOGPACK
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He still made good points it's not like everything was fake
0 likesIt's always the French...
2 likesBro got paid 1 million dollar💀 for this video
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Another disingenuous DogPack glazer, I see?
0 likesNahhhh this doesnt debunk anything
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@@kingkong-gm6pp wdym? what makes you buy dogpack when he never showed any proof to majority of his claims, but you won't buy soggy?
0 likes@@Karmanara nahhh i aint buying it
0 likes@@Karmanara what i see is a man pushing his own narratives
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0 likesthis debunks majority of the accusations dude...
1 likethis debunks everything
1 likelol
0 likesthanks for this video. i was in full support of dogpack at first, but after this i think my opinion has changed. i still dont like or support mrbeast, but i can take some of this stuff off the list of things i dont like. it was very nice seeing another perspective that used real evidence.
2 likesI got 91 for my chemistry paper
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Thank you people
1 likeCongrats
1 likecongrats
1 likecongrats
1 likeCongrats.
2 likesCant wait for morepegasus to make 30 videos with dogpack looking to the left with the caption "he's done"
1 likeThank you for exposing DogPack’s lies and manipulation! Props to you for putting this out there!
0 likesHow much did beast pay for this?
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very suspicous that mrbeast commented on this video, makes it feel planned
0 likesJayoma
0 likes1 million dollar lawyer
1 likeAs much as I appreciate the evidence there’s still a lot Mr beast NEEDS to answer to dog pack sucks now but Mr beast shouldn’t get away Scott free where’s your video Mr beast
1 likeKind of expected this. Mr. Beast is a dodgy guy, but DogPack is also. I don’t trust either side
0 likes54:22 well if they got forced off the raft for safety, the video should have ended, challenge failed, they did not spend 7 days at sea. I still heavily think that he manipulates results for better videos
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@@LearnedSophistryyou expect them to re film the 7 day long video even though they spent 99% of time in the raft grow up
1 likeEXACTLY, just because there was a good reason for them to fake a video doesn’t mean they didn’t fake it 🤣
0 likes@ I wanted transparency and for them to have you know actually failed the challenge and returned home when the lightning storm hit rather than deceptively lie about that they failed. Stop defending scummy behavior
0 likes@@LearnedSophistry so you wanted them to be in mortal danger?
0 likesewll, that speaks lengths about you
@@gewnurb those are completely different scenarios, mrbeast’s yacht detour wasn’t mentioned anywhere at all in the video, there was no disclosure or disclaimer about the fact that they left the raft. Because in the challenge guidelines they weren’t supposed to leave the raft
0 likes@@LearnedSophistry so when something at the grocery store is priced at $19.99 and your mom tells you it's $20, then ig she's a liar and a scammer
0 likes@ yes? They failed the challenge? Video over? It’s faking content unfortunately that’s what it is
2 likesAlright, so instead of spending 120 hours at a raft at sea, they spent 119 hours at a raft at sea and 1 in an torn down random boat. You're the kind of person to say "erm, you didn't give him $50000, only $49999"
0 likes1 hour and half video , I am soooo exited gotta get some popcorn and enjoyy this is what I really needed
0 likesCan't wait for pegasus to switch up again and milk this until the utters turn to dust, great video btw
2 likesEdit: Im baffled that hes just a butt hurt jerk that was angry he got fired and exposed someone for their own selfish gain, but with that being said, we shouldn't take off all the light on mr beast, he still needs to be talked abt
def not putting crayons in my nose after theyve been in my butt bro that would be so gross.
0 likesBrother really went all out on the ol idubbbz impersonation
0 likesLet me just get this right. Why is a guy refuting evidence on behalf of MrBeast? I mean, this just seems weird to me, that this guy randomly begins going to war for MrBeast. Furthermore, Why the heck is MrBeast in this commentsection, like bro, respond to the claims yourself, instead of hiding behind someone else, doing the debunking? Or am i missing something here?
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@ we don’t have to guess an investigation was underway on him so he had to remain silent. Now he should be able to speak unless another investigation occurs
0 likes@ I hope you watched the video. The only reasons soggy got all the info was because jimmy wasn’t responding. Jimmy didn’t tell his producer to give the info to soggy. The producer just got sick of jimmy not responding so he gave the info to soggy as someone who would actually spread the truth. As to why specifically jimmy isn’t responding despite his employees, friends, and viewers wanting him to? We can only guess.
1 like@@intothevoid9831 I'm not?
0 likes@@PlatinumSceptile Just because it's his job, doesn't mean he's fit to talk on behalf of someone else. That's my hole point. Would it not be better if MrBeast actually responded, rather than responding through some proxy YouTuber? I don't have anything against him (Soggy), and obviously a lot of his debunking has some merrit to it, I'm just curious as to why, MrBeast and his team, if the evidence was so unrefutable wouldn't just respond, instead of feeding this guy information.
0 likesWhile Mr. Beast SHOULD respond. THIS DOESN'T MEAN UNDER THE HOOD LOL.
0 likesCould it be? Sure.... like how Dogpack said everything could "allegedly" be true. However, he spent a lot more time actually LOOKING into his crap and sorting interviews. Did you see the way dogpack talked to him? That's not something an innocent man says
Why are you arguing for Dogpack?
0 likesalso soggy probably wouldve done this if dogpack didnt try to make him say alot of baseless accusations for him.
0 likesbecause thats his job. hes an investigative journalist youtuber. his job is to do investigations on this stuff whether hes asked to or not. and unlike dogpack he actually takes it seriously.
0 likes@@generights Who is? I'm not saying he's clean or anything, i just think MrBeast should respond, since he's in the middel of all this, instead of some random guy on YT, probably being fed information from the MrBeast team indirectly.
3 likes@@DavidNorup-up7id Let me just get this right. Why is a guy refuting evidence on behalf of dogpack404?
0 likesAnd how so many employees were already postured to answer specific damage-control related questions. Something went on under the table.
5 likesHow did mutahar get evidence on keffals
1 likemost importantly, how did he get his hands on most of this "evidence"? mrbeast gave it obviously.
10 likes@@JulieWooly-pn6tx So i'm missing something here? I'm just questioning the exact thing you're doing right now. Arguing on behalf of someone else... Would it not be better, if it came straight from the source?
11 likesBecause he’s an investigative commentary youtuber who loves his job and takes it seriously lol
3 likesHow did you get all these connections? How did MrBeast official channel comment on a video with 244,000 views a day after it comes out? You made it so blatantly obvious that you worked with MrBeast to make this video, MrBeast definetaly paid you to make this slop. Which immedietaly sparks a conflict on interests, now we know why MrBeast hasn't been responding, he was commissioning third party responses, as to not draw attention to the drama for people who were unaware of it, only people who already know about the drama will see this video, where as, if he released a video on his channel, everyone would see it, and more eyes would be put on the drama, very smart.
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@@a_skellingtonthere are literal mr beast employee in the video (listen I don’t like mr beast either) but soggy cereal is definitely not paid he did a several part series on airrack last year who is beasts friend
0 likes@@gewnurb Still doesnt answer the question of how he got all those connections, or how he got all of this "leaked" information.
0 likestrust me, there is definitely a random mrbeast working watching every video about the controversy the second it releases, if something came out defending mrbeast, he would know
0 likes@56:30 how do you pocket your own money lol
1 likeHalf this is just disingenuous and unreasonable at times false corrections, kids gambling is still bad, only finalizing promises due to backlash is still bad, making a poor person do things for the camera and labelling it a war crime then doing an ACtUaLlY doesn't make it any less bad, and unironically shame on you for trying to diminish the real bad that did happen and the lies that were actually spread in mr beast videos
2 likesWhat the frick is even happening at this point
0 likesThis doesn't feel like a content cop if there's no edgy humour in it.
0 likesStill, W video tho
There’s a LOT of things that I didn’t find to be true with dogpack, and Rosanna, (many of which being the “very old” stuff) since both had reason to have bias and anger, but there’s a lot of bad that I do believe to be true.
4 likes-philanthropic lies, cgi-reused clips to make look of doing more than done (not much a big deal other than lying), team trees/seas which is technically good, but overall just a big “feeling of helping” than actually helping. And most importantly the recently uncovered not paying of surgery bills, it’s all just done for image than to really be good, “want to be good, go do it NOT for a video” (an extra note that “yes good IS being done, but only the right good for the camera”)
-gambling, I think he has had cases of blatantly promoting/encouraging gambling type behavior, matching his possible own addiction with that and crypto
-items, most of his items have been fine, like toys, they just toys it’s fine… the chocolate was starting to cross the line, and the new recipe crossed it, with lunchly finally being the breaking point as it is blatant copied crap with other YouTubers who are NOT a good image
-some issues with safety which may be more “overdoing it” with the videos/beast games, and not being prepared for what is needed to do something of that scale.
it’s mrbeast’s recent actions that have caused me to stop watching rather than what dogpack “exposed” as I personally dislike many of his collaborations and new personality.
agree with everything besides the signatures, a signature made by another person will never hold the same value as a signature made by the person you value, because signatures are not valued on anything besides the personal value of the person who signed it.
2 likesYou are ignoring proven things like the fake signatures. Chocolate child Labour and more. Clearly you’re glazing
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He didn’t ignore the child labour what are you talking about
1 like6/10 ragebait, watch the video first to get better hate
2 likesa+ tier bait
1 likeYou clearly didn't actually watch the video, because he DOES talk about the chocolate thing.
2 likesYou didnt watch the video.
6 likesThis shit's confusing af
0 likes1:00:46 of course it devalues the tshirt. the only value in the shirt is if Mr beast himself signed it, which is what people would believe seeing his signature. maybe it's not illegal, but it's definitely scammy
0 likesI appreciate your search for the truth Soggy, great video!
1 likeI didn't agree with some of the things that were presented; for example the NDAs
Who cares if he broke an NDA? The point he was making is that the challenges (like the underwater one), are not as authentic as they try to make them appear. The potential threat for injury is in part what keeps viewers engaged. So the point is it's not real as they try to depict, which makes it fraudulent in my opinion.
Next, the signing of the T-shirts; there's no possible way that you could honestly agree with that? Nobody wants a signature from somebody that's not actually that person. It's disingenuous, it's fake, it's a lie. I don't care what you read, it's probably propaganda by the print on demand companies when artists sell prints and they claim to be hand signed but it's actually robot CNC machine signing it with a pen or pencil for them. I find it to be a deplorable thing to do.
And regarding Jake Wedel;
Y'all seem to lack an understanding of human psychology based on the way you presented it. Comparing it to the challenge when it was the guy and the girl is nowhere near the same, like at all.
Humans are social creatures, and our powerful brains require other humans (aka culture) to guide our actions so we know how to properly orientate ourselves in the world.
Complete and total isolation is definitely psychologically challenging to say the least, and to deprive that brain of sleep at the same time?! That is definitely psychological torture.
However, I do think he has no ground to stand on because it was all voluntary. That being said, he probably has a personality type that is high in trait agreeableness, which would coincide with his self proclaimed feeling like he had no choice.
Keep doing what you do Soggy because the truth is an antidote to a lot of people's suffering. 💯🙌
first allegations video that isn't slop, about time
0 likesSo you are not gonna talk about the video you deleted for spreeding fake information about WestJett. How you went behind youre friends back and made a negative video about them while they are supporting you. Man milked AirRack and now is the peack of Slop. Yayyyyyyyyyy. Well made Soggy.
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@@jakovnenadovic7189 thé false charity faking and fbi report
0 likes@ READ THE FUCKING it says he unfairly criticized OTHER CREATORS BRO
0 likes@@DontkilLkong I just told you the "other" youtubers was WestJett and Pegasus was a part of it. And why aren't you telling me the allegations Pegasus spread, is it because there aren't any? And you made it up? Pls you aren't making any sense.
0 likes@ Pegasus did no effort and dicrided dogpack
0 likes@ soggy deleted it because of other YouTubers not Pegasus
0 likes@@DontkilLkong Its not criticizing if your telling lies. And Pegasus did not spread any false allegations, the video was about him milking the Mr. beast drama. What false allegations? I would rly like to know. And yeah soggy deleted the video, and what other youtubers, WestJett? Did you even watch his video, Pegasus was inn it and defended him self. What are you talking about, and pls tell what false allegations Pegasus was saying.
0 likesdoesn't make his video any less credible lol
0 likes@ what about soggy criticizing Pegasus was false Pegasus is a low effort slop and milking drama channel that gets things wrong a lot watch stuckys videos on megasus
0 likes@ Pegasus knowing spread False allegations and soggy only deleted the video because of other YouTubers NOT Pegasus Pegasus is a huge clown and deserved the criticism
0 likes@@DontkilLkong Pegasus is a clown? Soo soggy spreads false information about a supporting friend, calls him a slop channel, and he is the clown? I don't care that this is a different subject this is the following video after he deleted the last one, a explanation should be needed. Why are you defending him?
0 likesPegasus is a clown and this is a completely different subject
0 likesImagine someone comes out and makes a video about Soggy Cereal lying and being a fraud
0 likesIdubbz died 2022 soghy cereal born 2022. Welcome back idubzz
0 likesDogpack404 is evil. I can feel it in my balls
2 likesWhat we do here is go back back
0 likesImma be real even with this situation, i'm still gonna hate on mr beast anyway
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Thats the point of this. Show that dogpack is stupid. and not say that mr beast didn’t do anything wrong
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0 likesaverage twitter user
1 likeWow
0 likesThank you for doing your own research.
0 likesbros silent now lmao
0 likesThat yacht looks like it sunk then got revived
0 likes54:22 again, the whole premise of the video was that they were engaging in a risky activity, and whisking away to safety behind the scenes makes your audience believe you were in a much larger risk than you actually were. aka faking
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@@Thebeast_QwQ yeah I was abt to say, but I agree with u mentioning that
0 likes"hey, the price says $14.99, not $15"
0 likes@@RihanaLinthey should've just mentioned in the video that they're stepping out due to risky conditions rather than mislead viewers
0 likesi dont think anyone woudda been happy if they died or they were forced to stay on in dangerous conditions. People talk abt their dangerous conditions as a big thing
0 likesYou know what? I'm no longer believing any accusation against any Youtuber, EVER. Nope.
1 likeNormally I wait for docs or whatever to leak or release, then judge from there. Nope, I'm just gonna assume they're ALL crafted up to slander, or have context spliced out, or other faking tricks.
Nope, I'm not believing a single allegation no matter how solid the evidence looks, since it will likely turn out to be overdone dogpiling hoaxes.
I don't watch or support him. Still won't. But, just, no, I'm done with this year of accusing.
this is a paid opp
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@@drak_darippaThat's a nice argument senator Got any source to back it up?
0 likes"My source is I made it the fuck up"
You're no better than the fools
There's concrete evidence in this video, if you even watched it with your ears open
And I ain't siding with anyone, y'all are so pathetic
Dogpack Rider
I swear I had a slight feeling they were lying bcs rosanna pansino is the most obsessed mrbeast hater ever and way back then she would make false accusations
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I've seen DogPack404 in videos with Rosanna Pansino that aren't related to the MrBeast controversy (like baking together). It seems like they are either close friends or FWB. Could be understandable if this was true, they both hate MrBeast.
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0 likes54:00 that's literally part of the challenge. even if it's for safety, they still faked it. if it's unsafe maybe don't do it or don't say it's real
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@@arielperez3613hyperfixating
0 likesJust because they had a good reason to fake it doesn’t mean it wasn’t faked
0 likesso you only debunked minor stuff, the obvious bait cp stuff (useless american slander) and barely debunked any of the other major mrbeast shady stuff brought up and talked about by dawson such as beastgames, shady selling/lottery methods, behaviour and hiring at the company, while at the same time acting like you're inbetween and just exposing both dogpack and mrbeast. how did you get the audio of dogpack being fired? how is it that youve been welcomed with open arms at the company and were able to interrogate some of the most important members EXCLUSIVELY on dogpack and the weddle stuff, but you couldnt ask them anything about the serious allegations made about the company? mrbeast even commented on the video and you go as far as saying dogpack should be sued for defamation lmao, deffo shady shit going on, you probably argued with dogpack and have been on him to try and eat off every forced accusation he's made (yes he has forced accusations but that doesnt change the fact he's been one of the first by far to expose much of the sh1t going on behind the scenes) and you're probably collaborating with the beast team which has been tyring to slander dogpack in every way possible even hiring private investigators (you are playing perfectly in the role by lying on him being untrustworthy when the majority of the claims he made, especially the fundamental ones, are indeed backed up by evidence, and when they arent he takes accountability for it) to diminish his credibility.
6 likesactual sad shit, and you got all the other sheep in the comment actually believing ur bs graph of false accusations which makes it seem like youve just shown them all on the screen while you're only listing absolutely minor points of barely any relevance 🤣
what journalism lmao, this is a sh1tshow
also the part where you claim he has a mrbeast obsession is the vilest shit ive seen in a while. you're not a "controlled" response to dogpack, you mrbeast's response to dogpack
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@DontkilLkong are you a 12 fapping to mrbeast videos or what 😆
1 like@ you didn’t even watch Rosanna pansino’s video let a lone this
0 likes@@Plt193 cope with the truth And dont Forget to watch the videos
0 likes@@Plt193 CP is a CRIME and a big one at that the question is how is it NOT relevant
0 likes@@DontkilLkong how is the CP relevant? He mentioned it being dropped on the group chat, not mrbeast possessing it directly. His critique was of the the working space and various creeps in it (which there isn't any shortage of lol, ava Tyson, locoya, take into account adderal being thrown around lmao)
3 likesAlso idgaf abt what they sent to each other informally, I care only about actual scum practice and abuses, such as adderall, locoya, illegal and shady lotteries and sale tactics, beastgames, ecc.
All other claims is just additional irrelevance, and not by chance this "soggy" goofball only covers those lmao, irrelevant takes
Almost everything here is in his video cope
0 likesI’m pretty sure this video is about dogpack
0 likesYapping about nothing And coping also how was the CP minor ??????????????
0 likesEhhhhhhhhhhh
0 likesDude didn’t watch the video
1 likeI just realized that a dog is the evolution from a beast
0 likesI sure hope this guy doesn't get a 304 girlfriend, lame tattoos, a p3do mustache and throws his fanbase under the buss just so he can get acceptance from the far left
0 likesplease talk about lunchly and prime. (mrbeast promoting both and they're shit)
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Lunchly is just YouTuber lunchables and everybody knows that they’re bad and Prime has been out for long enough that if you don’t have an opinion on it by now it doesn’t matter to you.
3 likesI came to this video very sceptical, but it did convince me to the point of unsubscribing to dogpack. HOWEVER, I also won't be taking the Mr. Beast employees at their word, my point in this is the Kara part when they talk about "no does not mean no".
0 likesShe talks about how you can bring solutions to whatever problem working partners may have to not work with what Beast wants to so, when what's written is completely different.
What's written is saying to go around and find someone withtin the same company that they can more easily "manipulate" with talks about how they can tell their children they were in a Mr Beast video or are fans themselves. Even going as far as to push to managers. And that's what she is saying she wrote with Jimmy.
Holy shit your hands are huge
0 likesI like how everyone had a different red flag for dogpack, but everyone just ignored the biggest from the start
2 likesHe was on weed when he made that video, doing drugs is already a massive no no in my view, i honestly trust no one who does that, and making a video that should have been heavily researched while high is just, not a good look
I am someone who hates the idea of doing drugs, smoking, or even drinking, so when i hear that someone made a video like that, while high, it just makes me not want to watch it
I began questioning dogpacks credibility after his video with rosanna where he used a really shady thumbnail
2 likesDrama isn`t form me, I`m gona watch my history and science fun facts videos now. Bye!
0 likesmrbeast is a horrible person. tired of these beast sympathizers and deniers. stop spreading f@ke news lil bro.
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Is your brain that stupid to think if most of dogpack's allegations are false, and dogpack has been manipulative, then mr. beast must be good. How about the fact both can be scummy? Life isn't black and white.
0 likesYou’re so dumb wow
5 likes38:50 - timestamp for myself
3 likeswhy u dic riding mr beast? both of them are scumbags (kris the degen tyson, getting kids hooked on gambling, real pump and dump crypto fruad are real hard truths. you cant hand wave that away)......also back to making slop?werent you crying about everyone making mr beast videos. wow very original! its different when you do it right?
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@@data1279again PROOF????
0 likes@@matjp99 yeah but why would mr beast pay a random dude and not a famous youtuber with more than 1 million subs?
2 likes@@matjp99lol glazer
0 likes@@data1279proof?
0 likes@@data1279that’s exactly why
0 likes@@matjp99 why would mr beast pay a random dude to debunk dogpack?
3 likesHe's dickriding him becuase he is fighting back Dogback's various claims? He's not saying Mr.Beast is good. Its just that most of Dogback's claims against him are largely untrue.
6 likesAlso soggy literally shits on beast
2 likesIt’s wild you’re comparing soggy making 1 1h30min long video with all new information, high effort investigating, flying to the US for interviews … with braindead slop channels who just repeat the same misinformation over the span of like 20 stretched out videos. Get a brain 💀💀
1 likeHe might have gotten paid tbh
0 likesCoffeezilla literally debunked the pump and dumb scams being scams and stucky debunked the gambling stuff months ago
3 likesNEW PEGASUS VID "ive made a mistake" or "DOGPACK WAS LIEING 1!@#"
0 likes42:40 I mean look at ludwig
0 likeshe got bullied by the entire internet for just not picking a side
why isnt it named "content cop" anymore
0 likesyeah man because the mrbeast employees are completely honest
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I mean the part about him pathetically begging for his job lines up pretty well
0 likesYeah man dogpack is very honest
0 likes53:13 - you can fucking see that the person is sped up in the video. you guys both have 0 journalistic integrity, jesus christ 😭
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Dumbass fraudpack404 glazer
0 likesdude had one good video and it went to his head. having a dude crying about being a "warcrime" room while making....$416 dollars AN HOUR! in a day of doing nothing he made more than i did in 3 months of waiting tables! and he was acting like a wimp. his greed kept in that room, he could leave at any time. anyone want to pay 10k a day to sit in a room?
1 likebro thought thought a billion dollar company was gonna give him a second chance after fucking up 3 weeks in? an then tried to discredit them? this should have been obvious that he was lying
0 likesOne thing, you kinda became a hypocrite by bashing Jake for only telling them that it was ai generated after the clip but then you said that you didn’t actually report them to the fbi after you showed that you filed the report. To be fair it is in the middle of the video though.
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Soggy reporting them to the fbi was literally meaningless, jake playing an entire defamatory recording on mrbeast is completely different, what is this take?
0 likesamazing video!! how you uncovered all this and actually backed it up is incredible 😮 watched it both on luhrix’s and nicholas deorio’s streams. this video makes me want to go to shower jimmy with as much support as possible! everything that came out just makes him seem like a good guy. think imma go sub.
0 likesI wonder if dogpack gonna hit a "guys this was a social experiment" at the end of the 3rd vid or on another like min long vid after that
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"I tried to cancel and uncancel myself on the internet" would be a fire mrbeast video ong
0 likesDogpack was cringe as fuck
1 likewith AI voices nowadays, dont believe any of it, from either side.
0 likesI've seen someone deep fake me on Daddy D as revenge porn. Dudes got a massive member so i dont get what their revenge plan was.
"Yeah here's his nudes" shows a deep fake of me on a porn star with a massive member
me "yeah thats me, with a 10" Johnson. Its true, i am that shredded too."
What i DO find funny is Jimmy hasnt spoken about any of these accusations in a video, addressed the media issues, the pdf stuff... but has time to comment on videos defending him within a few hours of it going up. Check bellow, he's there. I dont even need to look, he's in the comments of most "Mr best is innocent" videos.
cant wait for pegasus to make 64 videos about this
0 likes3:32 that guy's disgusting as hell 🤮>:(
1 likeThe dislikes are the DogPack fans coping
2 likesWhat the frick is an RSO?
0 likesEven though Dogpack is a fraud, Jimmy still has to own up for the other deceptive tactics he employs at MrBeast. Also, I’m 99% certain that MrBeast comment is not coming from Jimmy himself but rather one of your cronies.
1 likeWHAT WE DO HERE IS GO BACK
0 likesthis has gotten way too complicated
1 likeNot even that deep into the whole drama but I found dogpack sus from the very beginning from what I seen, just really manipulative. Sad some actual lifes got destroyed so he gets internet fame. Imma go watch more of your videos and maybe subscribe, good work doing actual research.
0 likesdogpack404watch
0 likesCan't wait until this video is inevitably debunked and everyone calls you out as being as much of a fraud as dogpack404.
4 likesthe cycle continues..
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@ dogpack fanboy coping
0 likes@@DontkilLkong Soggy no different then MorePegasus
0 likes@ describes dogpack perfectly and also most of the comments are (rightfully)supporting soggy
0 likes@@DontkilLkong no, like the insane amount of manipulation tactics he used. Maybe you should actually read some comments under this instead of believing what you want to believe 🤨
0 likes@@arielperez3613what inconsistencies you mean hyperfixating please cope harder
1 likePegasus is frothing at the bit rn.
0 likesThank you for making this video. After watching this, I feel ashamed to have believed the dog pack videos so blindly.
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No need to be ashamed I didn't believe it because I didn't care till it got into my normal content
0 likesWE NEED TO KNOW THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION
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is the racoon a paid actor?
You're not better than dogpack. It's all a dogfight.
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Yeah no one is great
0 likesTake me back to 2016 being a teen and watching content cop
0 likesPegasus is about to rub one out to this video 💀🙏
2 likescant wait for morepegasus video about dogpack
0 likesOh my god its inquisitor all over again
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It’s not.
0 likesI kinda liked dogpack he seemed like a genuine person but i guess I should’ve known by now that anyone can be exposed at any moment
3 likesDogpack's biggest mistake was trying to blackmail a dude who researched and exposed airrack just cuz
1 likewhy was ed Sheeran dog pack's manager
0 likesThank you for restoring my faith in humanity because if mrbeast is a satan then there is no hope for us.
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@@llamamations8827 Kinda weird conclusion but I understand.
0 likesHey, just because Dogpack404 is not all he's cracked up to be, doesn't mean Mrbeast is an angel. I mean, Stalin fought Hitler but that doesn't mean Stalin was good...
1 likeIn Conclusion: Don't trust everyone you see online
4 likes1:01:48 That’s everywhere except for the places where people are batsh1t insane. Like Texas’ drivers and Florida’s citizens.
1 likeThey are both bad. Case dismissed
0 likesThe ultimate Mr beast glazer
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@@AaronSmith-rm9kl 🤓☝️
0 likesIt’s not glazing he still shows what mrbeast is at fault for
0 likes1:24:46
3 likesThis drama is like politics there's no good or bad it's just profit
0 likeswhen Dogpack's video dropped i was literally saying to everyone it's 99% bs, but nobody listened and called me a moron xD
1 likeTruly baffling how a majority of the internet chose to believe the absurd claims made by a random nobody who suddenly appeared out of thin air, who just so happened to have been fired from MrBeast's company not long before, and not the most rich and famous man on the platform who has built a squeaky clean reputation and has given so much to others.
6 likes2024 has truly exposed our need to take down anything and anyone, if it benefits us.
MrBeast did the right thing being silent all this while.
He knew that we'd eventually figure out that we were put on a wild goose chase.
Truly embarrassing how we found reasons to attack and take down the man who has given so much to YouTube, and devalued his career over a random salty ex-employee.
A lesson to all of us, to never take sides without understanding the full story.
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I see quite a few people falling into this ideological trap, and it saddens me that we go in circles. Dogpack404 is certainly not a saint, and has manipulated to push his agenda, but that doesn't mean we should immediately discredit any and every allegation/problem that has backing against Mrbeast. Such as, several Beast Games contestants came out to speak about the inhumane conditions of the show, even some taking up lawsuits against him, AND someone being hospitalised for a week after a concrete piece of set crashed upon them. Not to mention the Lunchly scandals, or the blatant disregard of VERY serious allegations, nor the comment censorship that has been proven to be true many, many times. Both sides are quite diabolical, but to discover that one is bad and presume the other good is dangerous and we have already experienced this by assuming everything and anything Dog said was true. Although Dogpack404 is a manipulative and spiteful person, we still should hold everyone accountable, Mrbeast and Dogpack included, for we would be doing ourselves a great injustice not to.
2 likesthese drams is the main reason why i live by the rule and i quote "there are 2 things in this world there are 2 thing in this world the one that our eye can see and the one our eye cant see and it is better if we do not know what our eye can see'' quote from a wise man
0 likeswe cant just blindly trust anything
Hey quick question. So I’ve looked on the feastibles website and where they should say “exploitation free” on the website as stated on the Tony website, there is none of that found, with myself only finding that it’s definitely free of child labor, never once talking about slave labor. Now, I could be looking in the wrong place but here’s is what the mobile version of the website says about their ethical sourcing:
1 like“WHAT IS FEASTABLES' ETHICAL SOURCING STRATEGY?
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Feastables’ Ethical Sourcing Strategy seeks to get West African children out of farms and into schools. The Strategy is being actioned in three ways:
· Helping farmers and their families earn a living income.
· Investing in local communities, in children’s education and their wellbeing.
· Ensuring farmers have access to skilled and mechanized labor to successfully operate their farms, without child labor.
We’re working on a number of projects in West Africa. Watch this space – there is much more to come!”
I hope I’m wrong on this, but if this is true it could imply Feastible’s may utilize slave labor, despite your claims. If someone could help clarify it would be greatly appreciated!
Soggy Cereal on another timing 😮😅
1 likeI used to watch GARRET in mr beast videos!
0 likesAnimal abuse prevention man is back and popular!
0 likesDelaware got confirmed by jake the viking tho that jimmy knew about him being registered when hiring him tho...
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Don’t trust Jake he is a bad person
0 likesWhy should anyone trust him when he never brought up his brother before hand. Hes another bad faith actor against mr beast.
2 likes47:58 I didn’t get an ad. I am convinced 2x speed removes ads except from the start and end of videos. Which is good for the viewer but not good for the YouTuber who isn’t getting mid roll ad money or watch time since that gets halved.
0 likesthe idubbz reference brought back so many memories lol
0 likesThis video just proves HBomberguy's point about Drama YouTube being the worst side of YouTube.
1 likeSoggy is smoking that Dogpack
2 likes"ITS OVER"
0 likes1:05:49
0 likesAINT NO WAY MRBEAST COMMENTED ON THIS
1 likeAt this rate ludwig will react to all the mr beast lore to become a pro
0 likesWhat should I even believe anymore ...
0 likesWhat? Its just an ordinary Mr Beast dra- OH MY GOODNESS!
0 likesBut Mr Beast did leave the lights on during the challenge, which is a war crime, didnt he?
0 likesDawson is hurting the philanthropy thats helping people? Like fiming a bunch of people who were already getting eye surgury? 1 or 2 Mrbeast videos probably cost as much to produce as his whole company has spent on both team trees and team seas
0 likesnow YOU'RE gonna get exposed, then the person who exposes you is gonna get exposed
0 likes11:13 seeing my country just made me feel super sad, when will it end!!
0 likestheres a youtube channel called shantaechilek and their putting makeup on their dogs for views :[
1 likeDogpack and Mr Beast are still both bad, I don’t think anyone being investigated by coffeezilla and also having a 20 page lawsuit against him is much of a “good person” either
3 likesHowever I appreciate the journalistic integrity you have to still come out against dogpack even while it may be controversial or a hot topic 👏
HELL YEAHHHH OTIS MCDONALD MENTIONED🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
1 likeI think im not gonna support either Dogpack or MrBeast at this point. 💀
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Eh he ain’t a pedo so immo still watch
0 likesDogPack404 - such convenient of a name he chose for a channel that literally is the literal embodiment of a dogpack.
2 likesbeen saying this for months lol, the first video was simply a bunch of unsubstantiated accusations and nonsense to add to the "illegal" lotteries thing which in itself was just an inexperienced mrbeast that didn't know about free entries, every other video after it is just a more and more desperate beg for clout
8 likesJournalism is a maze, packed with propaganda at every turn. I thought Dogpak’s reporting was the untouchable gold standard of unbiased truth—only to have it shattered by another video. Now, I’m convinced this video is the epitome of unbiased work. Am I stuck in some kind of twisted loop?!
3 likessoggy cereal zip up his pants when ur done bro
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lil bro didnt watch the video
2 likeshuh
0 likesDog pack, Mr beast... Funny... Nr beast fakes his video.. everybody knows that now even bro didn't deny..and isn't dogpack the dude that used to work for Mr beast... He got fired and decided to expose them touche... Maybe they are actually both doing this for views.. remember how much kim Kardashian made from her tape just leaking
0 likesSoggy cereal tries try not to Dick ride MrBreast challenge, IMPOSSIBLE
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Watch the video little bro, he isn’t glazing mr beast.
5 likes1:01:58 "I had a lot of time to think and watch Minions." Nobody willingly watching Minions is capable of thought.
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0 likeshe didnt interupt the ceo the ceo stopped tlaking so he talked lo lfirst time eyah he interuptted but second time he didnt lol. Also if a ceo is being a douche u can itnerupt them if u want if u in a job interview and boss is a douche be a douche back dogpack a clown but that intro was weird.
0 likesFor anyone wondering about the “Forging signatures“; MrBeast SPECIFICALLY said MULTIPLE TIMES that a random person from the team would sign the shirt. Signing „MrBeast“ is not the same as signing „Jimmy Donaldson“
2 likesi haven't watched the video but this dude at the start has technoblade merch so whatever he says is gosphel
0 likeswink added in post holy shit
1 likeStill not 12 mil views? cummon
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Ikr?!
0 likesMy question is why did this completely unrelated guy debunk a defamation video about a company/person (months after it came out btw)?. It really doesn't make sense to me how it is profitable to not address the allegations. I despised both the man and the company of Mr Beast before the dogpack video and I will no matter because I hate that brainroted content but why did they let that happen 💀they even deleted comments and pretended nothing is wrong like I know the 8 yos don't care and wouldn't understand but even a single tweet would be enough.
1 likeedit: 1:20:21 then why diddn't you address the allegations ? 😭That's on you for not standing up for you "beloved" company. What are you gonna do if another dogpack comes out?
edit2: I'm sorry but if folks at MrBest think 40 yos, 50 yos and so on watch their videos they need to take a look at the mirror cuz nobody's buying that crap. Didn't they make a lucnchables clone that was targeted towards who again? Children who don't know better ? but this is dogpack's evil manipulation it's not like they've been targeting children for years right? 😭
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because it fucking takes time to research and put the videos together? Do you lack common sense?
9 likesif mrbeast was such a terrible person, why didn't dogpack leave instead of getting fired?
13 likesOnly winner between DogPack and Mr.Beast controversy is Soggy Cereal!!
2 likesJesus christ this situation is getting out of hand
2 likesI can finally watch mr beast with less guilt
3 likesomg. at this point im skeptical to every “truth” that comes out. so what if mr beast chose paying people to fire back against dogpack404 instead of sitting down and apologizing since we know this doesnt turn out the way intended most of the time for youtubers. it could all be just mr beast propoganda. also him commenting? finally taking accountability only for a video that supports him?? very sketchy. all i know is mr beast isnt a saint and not just a generous charity guy.
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@KRuStyKxng the crypto stuff seems pretty bad
4 likes@@specticent he's not a saint but why isn't he a generous charitable guy? A 4 sec CGI means his all his videos are fake? Can you prove even HALF of his videos as fake when there's actual evidence people lives have been changed even if for clout? Just because he isn't as charitable as he claimed, doesn't mean he is NOT charitable. He's still doing better than most people ever will. You already claim this is "Mr beast propoganda" so I'm sure where your bias lies. Nobody in this situation is good, mr beast is bad, but dogpack404 is clearly worse.
3 likes@ wdym are you siding with me or the video
2 likesHere we go again 🤦♂️
6 likesI know Ludwig is doing a little two-step in his room right now for not jumping the gun on this 😂
0 likesunemployment beef
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how very different and quirky u are bro!
2 likesStrongest Manipulator in History Vs. Strongest Manipulator of Today.
2 likesYo soggy, you should check out the allegations abt mr beast exaggerating his charity in his philanthropy channel (like pretending to build a hospital, building less than 100 wells, etc)
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@@arielperez3613 ?
0 likesWhere is that video from?
0 likesIt’s funny because we used to look at people defending Mr. Beast and think they’re immature and now we think that people against mr beast are immature.
8 likesbabe, wake up! New Mr.Beast intel dropped.
1 likeThis is great but you should talk about the mrbeast gameshow
0 likesI literally said this when the video came out that dogpacks info was literally unconfirmed and heavily edited to seem real and I got slandered for it 😭I literally say in the same msg that I’m not defending mrbeast for all his actions like ppl just wanna be sheep and listen to whatever ppl say.
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This is the YouTube mindset
0 likesComment = trash
Video with the same thing = fact and believable
Also the NC disrespect is crazy 😭
1 likeWhile a lot of his claims were false, chalking the cp memes up as "degenerate humor" is misleading. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
0 likesNot wearing helmet while skate boarding. well this not guy to be trusted. How dumb can you be!!?
1 likeBLUD IS the 1,000,000$ lawyer!(or detective)
3 likesSkibidi Toilet Hawk Tuah 🗿
2 likesThis vid needs to be linked under every slop vid
0 likesbro i dont even know whats true and false anymore about this drama, too much information all at once
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@ im a loser but not that much of a loser to research an internet drama that has 0 effect on my life
2 likesDo ur own research
0 likesso you only debunked minor stuff, the obvious bait cp stuff (useless american slander) and barely debunked any of the other major mrbeast shady stuff brought up and talked about by dawson such as beastgames, shady selling/lottery methods, behaviour and hiring at the company, while at the same time acting like you're inbetween and just exposing both dogpack and mrbeast. how did you get the audio of dogpack being fired? how is it that youve been welcomed with open arms at the company and were able to interrogate some of the most important members EXCLUSIVELY on dogpack and the weddle stuff, but you couldnt ask them anything about the serious allegations made about the company? mrbeast even commented on the video and you go as far as saying dogpack should be sued for defamation lmao, deffo shady shit going on, you probably argued with dogpack and have been on him to try and eat off every forced accusation he's made (yes he has forced accusations but that doesnt change the fact he's been one of the first by far to expose much of the sh1t going on behind the scenes) and you're probably collaborating with the beast team which has been tyring to slander dogpack in every way possible even hiring private investigators (you are playing perfectly in the role by lying on him being untrustworthy when the majority of the claims he made, especially the fundamental ones, are indeed backed up by evidence, and when they arent he takes accountability for it) to diminish his credibility.
11 likesactual sad shit, and you got all the other sheep in the comment actually believing ur bs graph of false accusations which makes it seem like youve just shown them all on the screen while you're only listing absolutely minor points of barely any relevance 🤣
what journalism lmao, this is a sh1tshow
also the part where you claim he has a mrbeast obsession is the vilest shit ive seen in a while. you're not a "controlled" response to dogpack, you mrbeast's response to dogpack
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@@Plt193 so r u gonna ignore the all evidences brought against dogpack's lies, slander and half truth during his brief time to create ur own hypothtical scenario to make you feel good about him slandering mr beast? You saw his video "ideas" yourself and you heard eye witnesses that talk about his charcater not to mention MOST of his allegations are purposely misleading his audiences which proves he not for the truth but himself obviously. Did you watch with understanding? As the prevoius commeneter mentioned, BOTH are SCUMMY. Dogpack isnt a saint who just happened in your dream world to " probably didn't particularly align with much of the scummy practices of the company, which is also one of the other reasons he probably exposed the business. " HE IS SCUMMY TOO. In fact, he should be lucky he isn't getting sued by everyone he dragged in his lies cause he would be done.
0 likes@@DanceFacility dogpack is an ex employee which most likely disagreed on various views on how to run the company and it's creative side / content and got punished for it. Was he fit for the job? Maybe he wasn't the most hard working employee and likely he wasn't in line with the content direction the channel had taken, which probably resulted in him getting fired as he was considered a liability. Considering how some employees and collaborators are treated (beastgames and the weddle situation are good examples) I wouldn't be surprised at all by his firing being suspicious / questionable.
3 likesSo the question is, why should we consider dogpack scummy? Because he's a disgruntled employee who got kicked out for having different views from the company direction, and then exposing truths about a good chunk of the scummy nature of the channel?
Losing a job in which he clearly cared about (he was deep into YouTube content creation and mechanism) surely is one of the main reasons why he went on to expose mrbeast, but you also have to consider one of the reasons he was fired is he probably didn't particularly align with much of the scummy practices of the company, which is also one of the other reasons he probably exposed the business.
So refrain from throwing "scummy" around. The only scum I see here is the mrbeast company which hides behind charity to money farm
I agree with you, but, like, dogpack still left out some stuff from his video that disproved a few of his allegations. I feel like both dogpack and Mr. Beast are pretty scummy people.
0 likesThen he says stuff like MrBeasts actions are only alleged while dogpacks are confirmed. Like how is that in any way true? Also then brings an employee who has worked for MrBeasts for 5 years saying the recorded conversation was just “water cooler talk” like that was supposed to make it less concerning?
5 likesWell said
3 likeswtf i am not sure what to believe anymoree
0 likesbtw dogpack supports alex jones btw. yehhhh that's a bit of an ouchieee.
if this channel said Dogpack is bad and Mr Beast is also bad, I'd be fine. But this channel is very weird in that Mr Beast is clearly unethical and manipulative, yet this channel tried to use Dogpack and legal loopholes to pretend to exonerate Mr Beast like Mr Beast is still the same old generous guy children should worship.
164 likes(edit: I've now seen a few videos doing the same thing uploaded within hours apart, some of which have never even covered the Mr Beast scandal, but now suddenly uploading within hours apart, with similar motive and strategy (expose dogpack while mentioning Mr Beast allegations, so they look like auto exoneration for each Mr Beast scandal). Seems very weird channels that never covered the Mr Beast scandal have full researched videos uploaded hours apart, almost like Mr Beast team handpicked certain channels, but this could be just a coincidence). And unlike 10 minute videos, I saw ones like 30 minutes or 1 hour+ long--how are they uploading all within hours apart... They are even outperforming other channels that just release 10 minute videos. Almost feels like there are certain information they were fed and had to cover.)
A few weird points from this video:
-Delaware is something the employees believed to represent his criminal history, Dogpack is irrelevant to this and even "Delaware" nickname is irrelevant because the key point is employees saying he had the history, so whether the nickname is linked to his history is a small extra detail, not the actual detail. You can erase the nickname from the conversation and affect nothing. They would still be talking about his past history regardless of the nickname.
-The war crime was a spontaneous statement by his friend upon learning about his sleep deprivation just as anyone would easily relate one thing to another but this channel made it like it exonerates Mr Beast. Whether it is legally a war crime does not cancel his actual actions. Example: If you drain your parents money, your friend might just blurt out you're scamming your parents, but technically/legally you're not. It's just the behavior is so bad someone would just use that word. This channel tried to use that to make Mr Beast look innocent when that wasn't the point. If a war crime was the point, then Mr Beast would be in trial. The point was his actions, war crime was just what comes to mind to describe his actions.
-For the illegal lottery, legal semantics and loopholes aside, the motive was clearly unethical and manipulative by Mr Beast. It doesn't matter if Mr Beast managed to do it through legal loopholes because he is being cancelled for his fake generous personality and real manipulative and greedy personality. The motive was obvious and the tactics were obvious. He was definitely manipulative.
Again, this seemed to be Mr Beast propaganda. I'm not going to go through every point which is all full of propaganda. feels like this channel is spreading fake positive Mr Beast propaganda so this channel is ironically also "manipulative".
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@fonkedonke > It isn't really easier to dismiss a marathon, like at all. If I say "he doesn't wanna do basic math quizzes, him not wanting to solve complex algebra seems not hard" it won't invalidate the point. The whole point, what MrBeast requested for him, isn't demanding for any average person. He was also was only "pressured" and not really forced into it. And also, you don't have to do the whole marathon. You can just attempt it for a bit, and if you can't, just simply give up. Again, it wouldn't disqualified him, he would only just lose the extra price money
0 likes> They literally show multiple contestants from the database that these people aren't from North Carolina. They used multiple different examples of people actually having small following, and even doing basic google search. Stop saying "it's a flimsy argument" when your argument is a random podcast. Also, anonymous dms are even less reliable than actuan interviews. It's a lot easier to make up fake communications between people that never consent to them compared to interviews
> What raise bit are you talking about then? The guy was paid for the challenge he does, failed, and expected more money than he should've expected. And MrBeast even apologize and even given him the rest of the money not expecting anything in return
> He literally said that he won't accept any more money from his because he won't be bought. He only accepted 50k because of his logic "if I don't accept the full pay, I'm not bought by him". What this does is just tanking your credibility while you take almost a quarter of the money you could've gotten
> Again, the issue isn't him making some tweet. The issue is that its makes him a hypocrite. He came out calling out Kris Tyson for saying weird shit before, while he have done the same thing. Making creepy "jokes" with heavy implication of it being a minor is still gross.
@@naganut9718 I don't have much more to say and can't be bothered with going deeper (I really don't know why I'm here at all hahahah, I normally stumble upon MrBeast stuff and really don't care all that much, which yea, is weird after the amount I've said, trust me this is procrastination and losing track of time to things I think would just take 5 mins rather than caring) so I'll just leave with this, glad to talk to someone that isn't just condescending and actually interacts with the argument:
0 likes- It is true Stucky mentioned he was pressured into running the marathon but when Jake was explaining being pushed into it Stucky says "a rubix cube is not the olympics". Jake probably wouldn't have cared about a rubix cube, when he was talking about pressure he was leading up to talking about the marathon and used the rubix cube as a very quick example. By making someone seem petty for not wanting to do a rubix cube you make it easier to dismiss a marathon as "not that hard".
- I've watched a podcast with that "chronically online girl explains" girl saying she was on a challenge and when she spoke to everyone there they all seemed to have connections to connections. I also find it very coincidental that many of the people involved in different videos are part of the industry. No, this does not necessarily mean the video are completely fake no do they have to be random. But promising the idea of "random" subscribers seems to be pretty flimsy as well. Maybe there are random subscribers but very very very rarely. I don't think it is wrong for employees to take part but I think that if it is true that most people are not "random" subscribers then you should be more open that these people are friends of friends of friends rather than random people. Jake also mentioned how he had to act in some videos and pretend the things that happened were real. The whole "real" thing doesn't really interest me tho, I'd agree with Soggy that a behind the scenes channel may help, who cares if a pit isn't as deep as it seems.
- Anonymous messages are just as suspect as interviewing people who are managers at the company where one of the allegations is tribalism of yes men. Unfortunately, this ends up as a he said, she said situation. But if Locoya Hill rumours are true then everything in the interviews will be immediately dismissed as bias just as much as Dawson was biased. I'm using Locoya hill as an example because Soggy did a pretty bad job of defending that, most of the video I think is great though.
- I think we may have confused the prize money bit to asking for a raise bit, that's the part that I'm saying he was underpaid.
- I can't find him claiming that he won't be bought by MrBeast. If that's true then sure he's a hypocrite, I'll agree. But I'd also point out being bought out is to retract your statement through bribes, not take no money at all through donations. But sure, if he said he will never take any money under any circumstances then sure, that's hypocrisy
- Jake said he was pressured into doing the marathon, he wouldn't have needed to explain his issues of sleep deprivation because they were already obvious and the thing is he did explain his issues, he said he's had absolutely no training and again, he is absolutely drained.
- I don't think that making jokes excuses things when it is illegal and morally wrong. Being into 19 year olds when you're 21 is not illegal nor is a 2 year age gap predatory, nor are jokes that are sexual in nature inherently creepy. I find teen stuff weird but if I had a 21 year old friend date a pregnant 19 year old I wouldn't think much of it other than "that's weirdly specific". That's like if I joke that I borrowed money from you and you call me a hypocrite for saying I don't like robbers. This whole joke thing is so ad hominem. Nowhere in the joke were there sa connotations, nowhere in the joke was it presumed they were underage, nothing in the joke was creepy. Crude yes, creepy no. He also had 6 likes, he was saying this to friends where it isn't weird to say what type of people you are into, especially if you are joking! Literally nothing has happened in that tweet. If you have to dig that hard in order to have reasons to dislike someone then lie saying that it's actually predatory, then I'm not gonna trust them, especially when the rest of the video is pretty much dismissing his trauma. Ava's situation is completely different, because when it came to Ava they were actual morally wrong and illegal underage jokes told to people who are underage, I think the jokes were inappropriate, not grooming (people need to stop watering down that term) but definitely wrong to talk to underage people like that.
@@fonkedonke > For the average person, this isn't a hard task. Sure, Jake Weddle have circumstances, but if that's the case I feel he should've explained his issues rather than just doing it unwillingly, there's also no penalty if he failed the task outside of losing the extra cash
0 likes> Its still hypocritical no matteer what you think. The guy is calling other people creepy while he himself made inappropriate and creepy jokes before. And it being a joke is a poor excude because that was the same excuse Kris pulled
> His reasoning fucking sucked. Just because he explained as to why he isn't a hypocrite in his mind doesn't mean he isn't a hypocrite. If I called out someone for stealing money, than later do it myself, but in my head "well I have to pay my medical bills", it's still hypocritical. He himself said he won't accept the money MrBeast offers so he won't be bought by them, but then immediately accept the 50k.
> If that's your stance fine, but its also understandable there are other people who are fishy of what he's saying when he shown to act like a deranged bratty person
@@naganut9718 - I think "not that hard" and "easy" are pretty much synonymous in this case coming from him. If he can't walk for days afterwards then you can't take that away from him. It wasn't "not that hard", it was in fact very hard,. He touched on something tedious in order to nullify the effect as "not that hard"
0 likes- I do not think it is hypocritical at all and again it falls for the perfect victim fallacy and it still doesn't take away anything he said. At the same time, you need to remember that "petite teen" normally refers to 18 and 19 year olds and from what I can tell with my research the tweet was made in 2020. From what I can find he is probably 24 now, which means Jake made that tweet when he was 21! So no, Jake made a bad joke that makes me feel weird because personally I find teen porn fetishes to be disgusting even if it is legal. But he never acted creepy in the way of being into kids (edit: or joking he was).
- He was making himself clear, he said he took money from MrBeast and gave reasons why, you can't be much clearer than that. He didn't know that he was going to get money previously which is why he didn't say it, he never expected it.
- I agree. I do not think he should have posted it and do not agree with him but what I'm saying is that this doesn't make anything he said untrustworthy, it makes him a guy who fell off the handle for understandable reasons to make seriously harmful comparisons
@fonkedonke > He never said it was easy, he said it wasn't that hard. And while I get he barely have any sleep, I feel like he should've put that into account
0 likes> It was never comparible, as its not the whole point. The whole point is that its hypocritical to vall someone hiring creeps while you also have acted creepily of your own in the past, regardless whether or not it was a joke
> If that's the case, then he should've made himself clear about it. What he assumes the pay would be should be explained more, but he didn't. Also didn't MrBeast already told him the price money? He failed the challenge, and he still have a good 100k, and was even given more money after the challenge
> Mental health isn't something worth noting in the case of him comparing himself to sa victims. You're making very serious allegations of someone, regardless of mental health, you should at least think twice before saying something online. If you're gonna excuse mental health, then there's gonna be a lot of innocent people got falsely accused, even if the evidence is flimsy at best because of mental health
> He didn't mention leave out the extra hard bit? He said right after the rubik's cube, not much implications he was talking about the marathon when making that statement. If that's the case, I feel like he would be saying "When I heard that, I just can't refuse to do the marathon". As for the pool bit, he immediately says "it's a silly complaint, but the water was cold and you're taking short amount of time", which I feel like is trying to not make it sound as silly, not to mention he literslly displays it right there
> Videos are faked have very flimsy evidence that was later disproven by Soggy, people brought in having connection is also flimsy as basic research shown there's multiple different people with little to no internet fame parcitipating, and having employees doesn't break the rules. Not to mention the evidence of all of them being insider are usually just anonymous dms. I feel like the filming part over safety would be fair, but they also have taken many safety percautions before. Such as the ocean challenge, adding camera trained people, covid test, etc. He also wasn't underpaid. Getting like 10k a day from a challenge is still a good deal, and at the end of the day he earned a 150k, which is a lot more money that people wishes they have
> About the whole "he never said he didn't wanted money". He later on said he didn't accept the money so he won't be bought by MrBeast, but him than accepting 50k pretty much makes him a hypocrite
I'm gonna look into the fumes bit later on. And while I do understand if you think Stucky downplays his trauma, everyone's reaction and struggles are different, the issue is his reaction to it as a whole shows immaturity
Also, milking situation isn't good for him. You're taking down your credibility as a person because what they gonna see is a manchild milking as much cash as they can
@@naganut9718 I watched the video but he didn't really say much. Sorry this is long. I've gone through pretty much every point and checked out the original videos to see if they hold up:
0 likes- Saying "yea, running a marathon in 2 days is easy" is just really dismissive, especially when you need to remember that this guy has had barely any sleep.
- Making a disgusting joke about petite pregnant girls and comparing it to hiring an RSO is insane and nowhere near as close.
- I've found Jake saying he didn't do stuff FOR money, I can't find anything saying he will NEVER ACCEPT money. Jake admitted to taking the money, that was honesty. If there is an actual quote that I've just missed from Jake of him being hypocritical then sure, but so far he seems clean.
- As for wanting a raise it's also very dismissive of how little they were getting paid. He said he mentioned the writer's guild because it was the closest thing. That means that he probably only took the writer's guild into proportion of what it is at Netflix and then lowered the salary according the the difference ads make on Netflix v YouTube. I can't prove that but neither can anyone else prove the opposite. It's a claim that I'd like to see investigated.
- Comparing himself to rape victims is wrong, I'm not going to say it is good but you need to remember that this guy was angry flying off the handle for very valid reasons of people dismissing his trauma, of course he was going to say something stupid, that doesn't take away any part of his testimony. Perfect victim fallacy.
- I don't trust this Stucky guy. At one point in the video he made it out as if Jake couldn't handle doing a rubik's cube because it was pushing him extra hard. But he purposefully left out that Jake was actually referring to the marathon that he was being pushed extra hard for. He also left out the paint fumes bit and didn't mention that Jake said the pool being lukewarm was a silly complaint. They have to be intentionally manipulated.
- Still all the points I mentioned stand, videos are faked, poor pay, tribalism, people brought in normally have connections to connections, they'll do philanthropy as long as it's on camera and they couldn't turn the lights off because recording was more important than safety.
- As for milking the situation out, yea that's annoying I personally don't find him funny and that seems to be a lot of people's opinion so it's understandable why he would go that way
@@ChaosEater39I think he deleted the YouTube comment ☠️
0 likes@@shaquillesommerville4060 my reply got deleted so saying it again. While the point about Jack the Viking is valid, its also important to note he's not a reliable source, nor a good person.
0 likesHowever, the part about the charity ain't. For one, you need to realize its a limited time event, methods of signing up id already gone by now, and you can aldo just check the site if you wanted to. Regardless its still prove that those videos aren't illegal lotteries
Ah here we go. When the popular narrative gets disproven, the only cop out is to just call it “Mr Beast propaganda.” Just take ur L and bounce.
3 likes@@shaquillesommerville4060 the claim about jake the viking is pretty valid, but its also stilll important to note of him not being a good person and his words not being trustworthy
0 likesBut the parts about the illegal lottery isn't. The issue is that you have to take into consideration about limited time offers, where a chance to offer might be closed off and you can't enter anymore. You can also just check the site itself if you need more information
@@fonkedonke there's a video made by Stucky that goes more in depth about him, I suggest to check it out because Jake Weddle's very much not a trustworthy guy
0 likes@@Viewer13128 The whole point of the video is about Dogpack404's massive slander of mrbeast, you know well mrbeast's reputation is now ruined, not just deeply, but permanently. Everyone likes it apparently. Due to this awareness, mrbeast is now facing real allegations like crypto, and all that was really making mrbeast guilty are unexpected mistakes, how can you expect to do better than the future you doing more fairly, I can bet my money you and including others didn't know about illegal lotteries, conscience in behavior, or how fair you can make for everyone years ago. No one is perfect and any situation coincidental, including unacceptable actions is something people can't control without awareness, knowledge, or experience, until they found out but can't change the mistakes in the past. Either you have to know how to act, be responsible, and express the right way to the public, or ruin your image even further in other's judgement by your wrong acts... in this case, some influencers are unfortunately uncapable of addressing rightfully when they have immense pressure and influence from the population of their audience.
1 like> The whole point of the nickname was about emphasizing the fact these guys can't get basic fact checking well. The guy wasn't some predator that MrBeadt knowingly hired. He was some bestbuy employee who got the background of a criminal, that MrBeast didnt do background check on, because he was an adolesent 19 yo
0 likes> You still shouldn't joke around when making serious claims against a person, and the thing is, he can leave at any time. And he wasn't gonna leave empty handed either. He was leaving with a good sum of money collected from the time he spent, and was even offered money even after the challenge.
> In the age of gacha and lootboxes, giveaways are overall average. You can argue it's a scummy bussiness practice, which you seemed to leave out the fact Soggy pretty much said it is, but it's not "illegal lottery"
Also, calling this video a MrBeast propaganda when the dude not only have criticized MrBeast, but also suggest checking out videos that exposed his crypto scams is insane. The guy wasn't criticizing MrBeast as heavily because this was a video talking about DogPack. There's already hundreds of video covering the guy
@@Viewer13128 It also doesn't make it better that Mrbeast commented on this video.
0 likes@ I would rather prefer a real debunk on the claim rather than the attack someone character approach. That’s literally the same excuse they tried for Lunchly Mold situation and look at how well that turn.
5 likes@@shaquillesommerville4060 "He makes no attempt in mentioning (at least from what I heard) about Jake the Viking making the statement that Mr.beast and his mother were inform about said past and kept him around."
0 likesEven if I don't agree with Cereal's video he did mention this (rather snarkily) and proceeded to say how the Viking guy can't be trusted since he is a bad person and that Jimmy was a young muffin.
@@shaquillesommerville4060 Yeah, I think the entire situation is just stupid, though I will say I've never felt right about dogpack. He seems kind of mental but I've always felt that MrBeast had something to hide too.
0 likesi mean you kind of sound like a dogpack shill here;
0 likesthe delaware nickname is embroidered onto the shirt in the original video so he clearly GOES by delaware. if he isn't actually banned from the state of delaware, which the video explains, then they arent talking about his past history. it's borderline impossible to know what mrbeast does or doesnt know so whatever on that
the sleep deprivation thing is just dumb - the channel is calling out how comparing getting 10,000 dollars a day to live in shitty conditions to rape and war crimes is insane, and not representative of the full picture.
no purchase necessary is a legal "loophole" that exists on literally every box of cereal with a giveaway and we literally get an example of someone winning something from it in the video.
in conclusion stfu
@@Skyhigh_905 Not really. It's one thing to just reporting and commenting on the allegations.
6 likesHowever, if you're going be the guy disproven allegations then its of your best interest to also point out what is true or get to the bottom of said proof rather than arguing "well he got fired so that's why Dogpack made allegation about an SA CEO.", "Maybe Mr.beast was young and not sure about background check." ,maybe Jimmy made a mistake.... Stuff like that to disprove allegations are going be more criticize then allegations
@@shaquillesommerville4060 I mean, everyone else is biased against Mr. Beast so by that logic they're not trustworthy either.
0 likesAnd the whole flying to Beast HQ to interview current employees. Soo the company can open doors to a YT 'journalist', to talk about another yt 'journalist', but not actually acknowledge anything? Pretty shady, especially with beast pr in crisis mode.
2 likesAlso how was the ideation team just two people in an office when we had dogpack, his coworker, and manager? like where was the ideation manager when dogpack was supposedly making his coworker uncomfortable working in an office together?
@@Viewer13128 Yes! This video is for the most part great but very weird in how he just slaps MrBeast on the wrist saying "There, there. No more of that" as if he didn't do anything.
9 likesHoodie saying that because of DogPack many people are now not going to be able to walk pisses me off. Nothing has stopped them from anonymously giving to charities without a camera. DogPack has stopped you from filming them for your profit! If there is more I'd like to hear it but I find that unlikely.
Jake Weddle in my opinion is completely innocent here. I believe he just trusted Dawson because he said everything he wanted to hear. Jake is proof himself that videos are faked, being subscribed to get in a video is practically not true (and many others came out saying they were in challenges and pretty much everyone was somehow related to someone related to MrBeast) and that the safety was terrible. Jake clearly took the war crimes bit as a joke, he was literally laughing. Soggy paints him as being dishonest when all the evidence of him being "dishonest" came from himself... which is honesty...? Jake also mentioned there was tribalism in the staff over how much of a yes man you were to Jimmy and the fact the guy Dawson tricked to get on the video says that even close friends of him have cut contact is proof of that! And we just let it slide!?
No!? I keep coming back here because the more I watch the more half baked I realise it is and that even if Dawson was going on a revenge spree half of what he claimed isn't proven wrong yet, or was actually true to a certain extent (yes, Jimmy wasn't on the raft because of the storm, but how many people believed he stayed on the raft in the storm?) and everything Jake Weddle said appears to be completely true, this video does a massive disservice to him.
(Also as a side note, c'mon. "I bought 100 boobs" is funny. That's funny! Imagine "I bought 100 balls". It sucks that Dawson went down this route. He has a fun personality and he's a great communicator and he clearly knows his stuff. If he took the revenge option of being MrBeast but with an actual personality I would have loved that, sucks he went down to the lying side)
I do agree on some of your views, but I’m confused by your edit. What channels or videos have been uploaded within the last few hours that also go in depth about exposing dogpack? Are there any keywords you used specifically? I’m trying to search by most recently uploaded but I don’t see many videos discrediting dogpack besides a few made months ago. Thanks
1 likeIt was quiet necessary I would say. Mr beast is infact not good of a person but to just dismiss and bury every deed he's done with false allegations and using deceptive means just for dog pack to get a little attention is honestly much more disgusting. Just imagine spending millions of dollar much of which helped numerous people's life, just for this dude to outright call it "fake" and the entire internet actually believing.
5 likesHe doctored evidence though so it is all called into question.
1 like@@shaquillesommerville4060 (Don't know about the Locoya hill and Jake the Viking stuff. I'm only talking about illegal lotteries)
0 likesDogpack's point about the illegal lotteries wasn't that you couldn't enter the giveaway form for free, or that it was extremely hard to enter, his point was that MrBeast never showed that you could enter for free. If the form was hidden/impossible to enter, then Dogpack would've pointed it out. So how the form sign-up process works doesn't really matter since no one ever complained or talked about the form itself.
I'm not taking sides at all. I'm just pointing out that Dogpack and Soggy are talking about whether MrBeast hid that you could enter for free or not..
@@intothevoid9831If the focus of the video is on dogpack, why the title only said mr.beast? Destroying dogpack credibility is not the same as uncovering “the real truth about mr beast”
14 likes@ he never says that what he’s saying “is not really valid”. He says that what he saying comes into question which is fair. Guilty until proven innocent and when someone cuts out context, makes an entire fake YouTube ui that statement is justified. Also maybe I’m nitpicking here but just because you “feel” like he’s exonerating Mrbeast doesn’t mean he is. Hell even the original commenter does this.
2 likesEdit: he also confirms one of dogpacks points in the illegal lottery 1 section, he straight up acknowledges and says himself that it was true and should be held accountable.
@@jojothepig7258 still all along the vid it feels like he's exonerating mr beast by saying that dogpack isn't a trustworthy source so what he's saying isn't really valid, which some are definitely valid. feels like it's even more poisoning the well .
5 likes@Viewer13128 we already know Mr beast is a scumbag for many reasons that are facts this video was more about showing people how "good" isn't always inosent (aka dogpack)
1 likeHe did criticize mr beast, its just the focus of the video is on dogpack. There are 5000 videos out there about mr beast.
3 likesWhat are you on about? Nothing what you're saying makes sense (and not just because this argument is way too full of word)
0 likesAnd the comments that are criticizing your baseless rambling actually made some good points
@@arielperez3613exactly NOT this💩💩💩
0 likeshe kinda just points out one fact that dogpack got wrong and or missed and or lied about and makes it seem like everything is bad. also, mrbeast commented so this can easily be a bought out video.
16 likesYES! Thank you, I feel like I've been looking for this comment. Dogpack clearly has his own motivations for making these and after his second video, he clearly started grasping at straws to keep the drama going, but enough is plainly true that MrBeast is very clearly bad and should be criticized. At most, Soggy Cereal only tries to say vague stuff like "Oh, yeah, I guess he COULD be bad, but we don't know." The Jake Weddle stuff on its own would be enough, and that's basically been proven.
20 likesSure, Jake chose to do it still, but it should never have been compelled by Jimmy in the first place. That marathon he ran could have KILLED him. If we agree that assisted suic*de is ethically wrong, even if the person still chooses it, we should agree that heavily pressuring Jake into performing an action that could kill him or ruin his health because he was desperate for money is just evil.
It's especially disgusting to me how MrBeast is commenting on this video, calling literally of his detractors "slanderers," acting like he's totally in the clear. What he does is wrong and now he may never be properly called out for it
PREACH
0 likesSoggy clearly says Mrbeast is bad though. In the illegal lottery section he straight up says “I do believe it is scummy and manipulative marketing though” at around 1:01:34. He never says it that it was generous, he just says it wasn’t illegal.
1 likeEdit: it’s about 10 seconds before the timestamp.
Exactly this 💯
0 likesalso, looking through the wayback machine using the URL he has in the video reveals that the descriptions are different on different snapshot dates, not to mention that there's randomly 8 snapshots taken from oct 15th all of the sudden... idk, occam's razor seems eerily thin here.
15 likes@@Karmanara Oh but Jimmy was young and didn’t know background check- but what about Jake Viking the brother-in-law of Delaware confirming both Jimmy and his mom knew about his past and still kept him around?
27 likesOh but the illegal lotteries had a disclaimer. The description only shown a site to Shopmrbeast. Where exactly was this form to be enter?
Like there’s a bunch of holes in this video too that just doesn’t actually attempt of being neutral and getting to the bttm of the evidences but rather a bias to make it seem Mr. Beast have an escape goat for his allegation which I just don’t agree with.
@@Karmanara He does criticize but it’s not 100% in the act of pointing out the wrong Mr.beast done within that allegation.
28 likesFor example, rather trying to debunk the loocay Hills stuff(which is that he work in the adult industry, allegedly SA a coworker, was paid to leave, and transfer to another Mrbeast company), this guy claim that “Oh Dogpack got fired by this dude which is why he’s acting like this. Which to me seem weird af to argue
you realize he did criticize MrBeast right? just not as much because quite literally half the stuff DogPack404 even said about him was false, hence theres nothing TO criticize for it on that regard
10 likes@@shaquillesommerville4060he literally talks about that at 10:10 his response to that is essentially that Jake The Viking is an untrustworthy moron who isn't a reliable narrator which is a legit fair thing to say imo, when the Kris Tyson shit first started coming to light Jake frequently posted about how Jimmy knew everything Kris did with absolutely 0 proof just for it to be revealed he himself knew his convicted child rapist brother in law once worked there, I don't think coming to the conclusion Jake lied about that to take away heat from him and his brother in law is a crazy conclusion, is it 100% true idk but it's not crazy to think that. Also Jake has frequently defended Delaware as a person lol.
0 likes@@Viewer13128Like this guy doesn’t even try disproving the claims for Locoya Hill but rather claim Dogpack just mad that he got fired.
39 likesIt’s so weird how this video acts
Edit: But Dogpack got the chocolate serving size wrong? Who cares? The point is Mr. Beast claim and act like he’s care about nutrition but then sell BS like Mr Beast burger, Zabaxy deals, Lunchly….. like I feel there’s not enough being neutral about Mr. Beast and Dogpack but rather some bias in there against Dogpack
@@Viewer13128if this dude was actually super intent on making MrBeast seem like a good guy I do not think he would urge people to watch a video by coffeezilla that discusses MrBeasts potential involvements in crypto scams and state that he thought MrBeast used scummy marketing, he is way more critical of dogpack than he is MrBeast in this video yes, I don't think that's inherently a bad thing? Every youtuber and their fucking grandma has made videos talking about Mrbeast like he's the devil and criticism of Dogpack on this platform is significantly less rare I don't think making a video where you primarily show proof of Dogpack lying his ass off means you actually think MrBeast is super good.
0 likes@@Viewer13128Exactly. He makes no attempt in mentioning (at least from what I heard) about Jake the Viking making the statement that Mr.beast and his mother were inform about said past and kept him around.
36 likesClaims that for the illegal lotteries that there’s supposedly a way to do so on shopmrbeast site but never shows on the wayback machine any evidence of a form to sign(just legal loophole I guess).
Exactly
1 like@@cats9994 from my perspective, the amount of criticism he sprinkled in despite the general feeling of trivializing everything feels like a manipulation tactic. The feeling I got was that Mr Beast was being exonerated when watching this video. I should feel the same for both dogpack and mr beast, but they are incomparable. It was not normal to feel this disparity, especially if he sprinkled criticisms. Feels like his tactic to appear impartial, while not.
76 likesHe criticizes MrBeast some throughout the video, and a lot at the end of the video
27 likesAt this point the slop is too much for me to handle....
1 likeMr beast is a scumbag still tho... Because he needs to give a proper reply to all the allegations...
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@Lunkie meh it's just people pointing fingers at each other so it seems like slop to me...
0 likesThis isn't slop my guy
0 likesspread this video more then the plague
2 likesbro what happened to this
1 likeDog pack just look like a crocked person
0 likesSry man, this just seems too one-sided to believe this video was made with zero prompting. And the intervirws are done with ppl that have too much to lose. Maybe u could team up with Coffeezilla to give the videos more credit
1 likeFeast, brothers! These are the finest, the sloppiest oats a piggy can dine on! Feast!
0 likesI think it would be best to just not waste our time into online dramas and controversies. At this point We viewers are just being treated like ping pong balls, being tossed around from one side to the other lol. Can't believe any side tbh. I believe Jimmy was overrated, not a good guy and honestly it is good that at least his indecency is being exposed. Neither dog pack was a good fellow, had his own motives and agendas. But now the truth is being shown to the viewers, so it's good I guess. Just my opinion tho.
0 likesI just watch for the content cop reenactment.. can any one else spoil it for me
0 likesThis whole thing is the dumbest video I’ve watched. You can go by point by point and disprove half of it without evidence just logic.
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@@hydro1389this is a terrible attempt to get fame and money and has more holes than a sponge
0 likes@@hydro1389literally the first point the only thing he added was 1. He is allowed in Delaware which we knew bc of what Viking said 2. Jimmy didn’t know he was a so when he got hired which is undoubtedly his fault and Delaware stayed on the team even after he knew at least as soon as he found out he should’ve gotten fired
0 likesThen debunk three points he made
3 likesOk bro we get it stop changing the thumbnail
1 likehonestly i fell for his bs and now i cant stop feeling horrible once i found out.
1 likeAlternate Title: Mr.Beasts Career is saved
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@@sxmbxdy i know its a reference
0 likesNo it’s not
0 likesDockpack got fired by Beast, gone meltdown, and tried shitting him, everyone believed him..
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@@sxmbxdydogpack glazer spotted 🗣🗣
2 likesJokes aside, both dogpack and mrbeast deserve criticism
Correction: dogpack worked at mrbeast, chris Tyson news went mainstream, dogpack blew the whistle on other things going on at the company with evidence, now soggy and other commentary channels are on jimmy payroll using ad hominem attacks to make dogpack lose credibility
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0 likesNO ONE CARES😂😂😂
0 likesSKIBIDITOILET I MAKE BETTER CONTENT😂 😂😂 SKIBIDI TOILET SIGMA OHIO RIZZ KAI CENAT KSI NEW SONG I LIKE MY CH
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@pepajust4099 Zkidibi Toyaletzz 😎 a new cool sigma way to speell skijidi toilet
0 likesur 10
0 likesWOMPWOMPWOMPWOMPWOMP
1 likeI'm so sigma
disstrack on dogpack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMM1Y76yzfk
0 likesFinally the truth is out..
3 likesMore Pegasus after this: He's saved, The truth, More Truth, Its finally done, Truly done, Actually over...
1 likeMr beast is still not a good person
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@@sxmbxdy uh yeah bc the war crime point is shit, there's genuine stuff to go at Jimmy for. also where did he try to exonerate about the illegal lotteries
0 likes@@cats9994he weirdly tries to exonerate mrbeast on the illegal lotteries and war crime doe
1 likeSoggy never said he was
3 likes$1 slop vs $1,000,000 slop
0 likesEveryone comment so this video gets spread around more.
3 likesWho would have guessed. So many gullible chronically online people jumped on Mr. Beast after that provocateur's, DogPack 404's, videos. I always maintain how dangerous it is to treat mere allegations as facts. If you think your reasoning is strong enough then go prove it in the court instead of passing blame: likely the court system is friendly to the plaintiff.
1 likei can feel mfs like MorePegasus bout to switch from milking mr beast to milking dogpack
2 likesOnly real ones know he already talked about this in a deleted video
0 likesnow, I know this is kind of small. but the faking of videos(and charity in particular) is something I want to be addressed in more perspectives
0 likesteam magma vs team aqua in 2024
1 likeWomp womp
0 likesYou lied
2 likesThe point about slavery is pretty dumb because Tony's Chocolonely Works with Barry Callebaut who does Work with child labor and modern slavery So MrBeast working with them means nothing
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Glad someone else mentioned thos because Tony's was dropped from the slavery-free list.
0 likesGood video
0 likes3:07 Hawk Tuah
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@ItsRaivenPlayz auuuuuuugh
0 likes“hawk 1: boo!”
2 likes“hawk 2: ahh!”
ahh comment
EDUPS AND MAX'S LOVECHILD
0 likesthe slop is so thick i cannot move or see anything
0 likes“I asked mr beasts pr guy if he was a bad guy, he said no. Case closed!”
2 likesOne more cow to milk before the year ends everybody! Send this immediately to morepegasus!
2 likesdogpack managed to make people see that beast is not above criticism and neither is he the perfect good boy people preached him to be, and im glad he did it. that being said im also glad now people started to actually analyze what he's saying; it always seemed pretty suspicious to me at how much he defends behind "NDA", as if an NDA would be enforcable when literal crimes are commited as they "allegedly" are.
2 likesi just hope that after this is over beast will learn from his mistakes and become less negligent, and dogpack falls into obscurity unable to ride the clout he generated from this.
Classic villain arc. Obsession -> Rejection -> Retribution
0 likesYou just love mrbeast meat😂
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@@cats9994 Dog pack fans can only say "You're controlled opposition", "how much did Mr. Beast pay you to make this", and "Stop meatriding Mr. Beast".
4 likesYou just love dogpack meat😂
2 likesI dunno man maybe "I asked the team who are under fire if any of the stuff happened and they said no" is maybe not the best way to go about it
1 likeI'm just saying I won't be surprised if you buy a Lamborghini in the next few weeks with money you can't disclose the source of
dogpack was a bit believable at first but then there was WAY too many allegations to be believable, jimmy isnt an angel nor a demon
0 likesdogpack was a bit believable at first but then there was WAY too many allegations to be believable
0 likesI’m sure dog pack will make a response video debunking all of soggy cereal’s claims
1 likeW for using Stucky's videos
3 likesMr beast is not out of the mud yet but will we see redemption
1 likeh
0 likesi was arrogant enough to just go off was dopack404 said and assume everything he said was thoroughly researched and true, sure, you exposed this guy, but whats stopping you from being wrong like dogpack? unless multiple other people can back up what you said during this video, im not even gonna bother with this drama no more
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@@sxmbxdy you first pal
0 likesStop wanting to be spoonfed and do ur own research
0 likesThis is giving arcane universe, everyone has done good and bad things
0 likesGoing back to Weddle, though, I think the Delaware nickname was what he assumed because he didn’t know the context. Weddle is obviously mentally ill because of trauma he’s experienced throughout his life. I didn’t take that at face value, as I knew that was probably his assumption, so I didn’t believe the Delaware nickname was for that reason. About his friend joking, I believe he knew that it was a joke and was trying to cope with his experiences. This video, like dog packs video, implies that Weddle knew about it and like conspired with him on the interview. I don’t believe he did, I think his memory was just clouded with confirmation bias and an assumption about why he was called Delaware, and with the war joke he clearly took as a joke to cope. I knew it was a joke because war crimes would be ridiculous but I could tell he mentioned it to cope with his experiences. The rest of the accusations against him in the video are to be taken with the knowledge that any could be true or false, I know nothing of those. But it is unfair to state that Weddle maliciously intent to depict his friend as seriously saying that his experiences were comparable to war crimes, as Weddle literally states: “my friend jokingly said”…
Womp womp i don't care about the drama
0 likes"Asking North Koreans what they think of their leader" aaahh type video 🗣🗣
4 likesLet's see if this comment gets intentionally hidden, that's all the proofs I need
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mate wtf is this proving? It didnt get deleted because he does not support mrbeast or dogpack, and he for sure as hell does not censor people because he likes seeing braindead people try and make stupid comments to ride dogpack's meat.
0 likesNot hidden yet Saar
2 likes"aaaaah type video 🗣🗣" tf does that even mean
3 likesHAHAHAHHA BRO I WANT MRBEAST TO SUE LITERALLY EVERYONE IT WOULD BE SO SO FUNNY XD AHAHAHAHAHA
1 likeMrBeast commented you 😭
1 likeyou're giving people a voice between the cries of the crowd, good job 👍
0 likesCan I try to be your editor?
1 likeThis whole situation is truly a roller coaster of emotions
0 likesI don't even know what to believe anymore. Youtubers space is pretty much like your average high school with all the plot twists drama lately
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@@crosheljarron9982 nah i agree with the first dude. It's genuinely better not to care
0 likes@@kategf1999 Gak guna mas. Mending belajar alasan kenapa rumus GLBB itu s = (v_0)t + 1/2(at²)
0 likes@@elithzymending ngeroast dogpack sama mrbeast aja 😂
0 likesjust watch and try to come to your own conclusion.
0 likesThe solution is to just not care. Supporting either side wouldn't give you any benefits. Try to find other things better to do.
1 likeAnd that's exactly NOT what I'm doing right now.
We found the 1,000,000 dollar lawyer
2 likes1.yeah he did it for views.
2 likes2.yes he manipulate a lot in video.
3.but starting from his video, people stop believe mrbeast is that good guy, and find real things he has done.
4.without his videos, mrbeast wont be accountable for anything for years.
5.his videos make good movement even and he just use all bad information people talk in years, but no one want check what is true or what is lie
what the fuck is going on
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The slop is thickening
1 likethis sums up my reaction
4 likesthe algo showed me a video citing your video before showing me yours so i left his and channel came to yours... youtube is dumb. good work soggy.
0 likesI never watched any of the dogpack videos mrbeast because i did think most of it was fake
0 likesSOAP TRUSTED YOU DOGPACK. AND I DID TOO.
1 like"jarvis, play "The Dogpack404 situation is insane" videos."
1 like"there is too many."
So if Jimmy’s shitty company doesn’t have perfect victims then it’s fine, okay sure
0 likesCrazy how a vid can have millions of views and i still never heard of it. Youtube is crazy.
0 likes14:12 W DVD moment
1 likeWhen will "Soggy Cereal situation is insane" come out where this video will be discreted, making dog pack look good and mrbeast look bad
0 likesThanks for this video. Jimmy is a good person. Good will prevail over evil.
1 likeguys i havent watched it yet dont spoil it
0 likesThis feels like a bad sitcom at this point 😅😂
0 likescalled it bloody called it i knew this guy would just be some attention seeking guy looking to take advantage after chris got exposed and because of that it was the perfect opportunity for people to start these rumours and turns out i’m right well there’s still the lawsuit and i guess maybe i might of been wrong on jake waddle because that was half and half but oh how good it feels to be right
0 likessuprised people didn't realize dogpack was bad. i did by JUST THE 1ST VIDEO HE MADE. ok it was like 4 days after it was made i became insanely suspicious, but this took too long
2 likesI LIKE THIS GUY
0 likesFraudpack glazers might have to be one of the most braindead npcs I’ve ever seen. They keep repeating the same old bs every single time if a person is exposed Fraudpack ( I know most fans do this but these glazers crank this to freaking 11.) Like PLEASE do some research before following someone..
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Last year if you criticize Mr beast you would be criticized but just a couple months ago if you criticized dog pack you’d be called a ‘Mr beast glazer’
6 likes8:45 This part is wild, sucks to hear
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make more long form videos🙏
0 likesThat pegasus guy is gonna love this
0 likesi knew it!!
1 likeHonestly im not backing down, this video is really flexing words to defend mrbeast "allegally" (cause he doesn't want to sound that he is suporting mrbeast but he is) like the sleep deprivation thing, just because some people are dying on a war that doesn't make the problem less, and also just because he is not being detained, doesn't change the fact that mrbeast is still using humillation and borderline torture as enterteinment
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@@droketheroper Bro is discovering journalism for the first time.
0 likesIt's curious that a seemingly unconnected content creator takes his time to fly overseas and conveniently has access to several employees, and asks specific damage-control related questions.
4 likesoh my gosh the world is not black and white, he did criticize MrBeast with PROOFS
3 likes@@leviticusprime4904 And here it goes another toxic Beast glazer
0 likes@@noahniskala I did not say "his comment" is, I said comments "like his" gets. And not just by creators but YT itself many times.
0 likesA comment that appears only in "Latest" tab but not the "Most relevant" tab, is shadow 🍌. Even talking about this topic often gets your comment hidden. I don't even know if this same comment will appear
Can’t take this comment serious, Ryan gosling as profile pic and name, defending pussboi weddle lmao go to your room junior
0 likes@@dubbyplays It never got shadowed, hes not hiding these comments, stop trying to make it seem like hes mrbeast who just censors everyone so his audience does not find it. Like bro you guys are overreacting so godamn much
9 likes@@sxmbxdyoh no poor Jake weddle didn’t get enough sleep so sad
5 likesSo what do you think of mamamax bs then?
1 likeI don’t think this guy understands the toxic work culture at mrbeast HEAVILY discouraged Jake from quitting the challenge
12 likesTotally agree, it's a shame comments like yours gets shadow🍌ned. This just proves our point tho
3 likesHere before 1m views
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@@somebody68434 skibidi toilet
0 likesSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBBBBBBBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIII TOOOILEEERTTTT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😆🤣😂😆😁😄😅😍😏🤤😋😅😙😊😅
@@kategf1999 you sound like you are 3 years old
0 likes@somebody68434 WOMP WOMP CRY HARDER LIL BRO
0 likesdude. are you really commenting this on a serious video??? you are a disgusting human being.
0 likesI think rosanna pansino is an equally big clown. its so obvious the way shes milking the whole scenario. she needs to be held accountable
1 likeSoggy Cereal, thank you for making this and shedding light on the misinformation spread about MrBeast.
2 likesJust as I predicted, both sides were scumbags.
Although I still disagree wih the chocolate one, the real problem was that MrBeast still advertised his chocolate brand as healthy even though its only slightly unhealthier than Hersheys.
Mr beast is dry, stop milking my dude😭
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one video
1 likealso the video is about dogpack
0 likesJust one video dawg
0 likesDude, he made one video. He ain’t Shitpegasus.
6 likesThis Dogpack situation is insane, he is finished, it's over, over like my recommendations page for the next 5 days after watching this
0 likesI dont got any media literacy. I blindly believed dogpack, and now im gonna blindly believe you because its easiest on my mental bandwidth. The world is too crazy for me to keep up with, so if you get disproven on your claims, I'll blindly believe the person who debunks you. As the cycle goes to make sure I'm not swallowed whole by the court of public opinion
7 likesHow much did MrBeast pay you to make this video? Also, you can’t just say everything wasn’t true just because there’s some spite doesn’t mean the stuff he has dug up isn’t true. He was the only one brave enough to speak up against your shitty company.
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If a Dogpack fan says you got paid by Mrbeast you're winning the argument
4 likesbro just watch the fucking video tf
5 likesdogfraud rider
9 likesMan actually got Mr.Breast to address the allegations, so good that he can get all my fibers and nutrients
0 likesMost of the things dawson said were correct except for maybe some things in his third video, and Mr beast did this to himself - Streisand effect. He thought it would fade away and he wont have to address them.
0 likesbro what the fuck is going on?? who am I supposed to trust man?????
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@@ISHAANP-eq5ddHe mentioned that at the end.
0 likeswhat about the coffeezilla video?
3 likesMrBeast's channel clearly suffered from this situation so why did he not make a response? like he is literally mr beast so he doesn't have to investigate the situation or anything since he is the situation
1 likeso why did he not make a response like this video?
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@@NearlyAsleeppeople watching this video already know about the drama
0 likes@@lilin1242why did he respond to this video
0 likesResponding to the video would only escalate the situation and draw more attention to the drama. The best approach to handle such drama, especially at his level, is to remain silent. Take, for example, what happened with Dream: when he addressed the allegations, it just brought more people into the drama and caused many people to draw the conclusion that dream was in the wrong without watching the video even though he wasn't. This ultimately harmed his channel.
0 likesCant wait for a third unknown party to say actually this guy is lying
2 likesI had the "attention whore" feeling about that dogpack dude right away. those "accusations" where never serious. ad a bit of manipulation and drama is ready. he needs to go
0 likesMr cereal what about the hospital cgi and the philantropy vids would love a follow up.
0 likesVery sigma
0 likesWhat if soggycereal is also a bad guy
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The REAL REAL truth about mrbeast
1 likeThe plot continues…..
7 likesI have a question about the Delaware Person: Do we have proof that he is actually fired?
1 likethis is don flamenco dodging and countering your punch and you dodging and countering his dodge and counter punch
0 likesI don’t even know who to trust at this point to be honest.
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watch the video.
0 likesAs far as I'm seeing, Soggy is right here.
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0 likesCrazy right? In the end both were accountable for their actions
1 likeWe owe Mr beast a HUGE apology
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No, MrBeast is not innocent. Soggy only debunked some of the trivial things. The actual serious allegations were brushed under the rug or are misunderstanding the real issue.
0 likesMrBeast had the biggest downfall and comeback in the same year
0 likesBro ur like 12 years old, this is big kid stuff u need to stay out of
0 likesHe still isn’t much of a good person. He just isn’t as bad as people thought
0 likesNo we still don’t
6 likesConclusion: mrbeast, dog pack and soggy cereal all cannot be trusted
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yes
0 likes@@somebody68434ad hominem
0 likes@@Skibidi_Sigma_Edits alright sure. i trust the guy named "skibidi_sigma_edits"
5 likes@ he also probably lying
1 likewhy not soggy cereal
2 likes@ hi
0 likeshello skibidi sigma edits
0 likesI wake up and there is another psyop
0 likesHow does it get to some other Youtuber having to interview some workers at their company? This is a weak view on Mr Beast in my view.
0 likesMr Beast has not replied to any of the accusations. That shows how unwilling they are to really protect their image or that they hide something
Man... I don't know who to trust anymore
4 likesMaybe i shouldn't trust everyone on the internet
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@ orange man bad
0 likesWell we can't even trust the goverment
1 likeMrBeast might have the greatest downfall and comeback in the same year
0 likesLiePack6969
1 likeNext THIS guy is getting exposed for something surrounding kids. Drama will never run out of fuel with this stuff.
2 likesFraudPack404
2 likesthe funniest sh in the entire video is 0:40, like so much money and yall come up with the crap that every scammer says
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Hello Mr.Verified
3 likesi can bet this video will blow up
0 likes“I asked Mr Beast and he said he didn’t do it”
6 likesThe brother of the sex offender even admitted Jimmy knew. Come on guys, how many people is Mr Beast gonna pay off?
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@@intothevoid9831 proof?
0 likesYou actually trust Jake? Even Dogpack's sources dont.
1 like@@simo_viewer_pr9030it’s true tho, attacking the source makes u look like a jimmy shill, even doe there’s plenty of evidence both dogpack and others have provided of jimmy, his work environment, employees, and terrible practices
1 likeBro, please open your fucking mind and listen to others for once. Not everyone who goes against DogPack’s claims (basically anyone with more than 10 IQ) is “paid” by MrBeast or “is a MrBeast meatrider”. That’s something DogPack fans like saying a lot…
4 likesDid you even watch the video
12 likesAlleged scum vs Confirmed scum
1 like90% of the people here hated mrbeast till now lol
0 likesWait until more pegasus sees this
1 likeThis soggy dude is like a little child crying "leave my daddy alone" while the police is arresting him
2 likesLike the worst things mr beast has done are even in the video lol? you just m ride like every other youtuber speaking about the less important topics
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@hydro1389 lol
0 likes@@EyemachineStudios but since Mr verified didn't watch the video he wouldn't know. Like if a blind person says someone looks ugly.
1 like@@simo_viewer_pr9030 Seeing the truth finally come out is so beautiful.
0 likesSoggy Cereal does debunk the things you mentioned like the philanthropy being fake which is untrue. Also if he spoke about all of the lies the dog pack made this video would almost be 2 hours long
0 likes@Linxyc he talks about those in the video, and even the part where dogpack lied about the chocolate
0 likesThis video is CLEARLY meant to debunk DogPack’s BS, not to meatride MrBeast. Just try going to the comment section under a DogPack video: everyone who goes against him is getting called a MrBeast meatrider or “paid by MrBeast”. You’re just repeating their crap but with 400K more clout points. If you watched the video, you would understand. But it’s probably too complicated for Roblox brainrot youtuber…
6 likes@@EyemachineStudios I will watch the video when he talks about the companies and people he actually scammed + the stuff he lied like chocolate and burger, but until then, i won't watch this video and take it seriously
0 likesThis video is long, but filled with information not so relevant, while the relevant one wasn't even present
@@EyemachineStudios you sthu yall crying like this guy as if mrbeast is getting attacked while he did nothing wrong
1 likethat thing with legs scammed companies that helped clean the ocean, food, build stuff in africa or other places and people eye surgery, and the only thing this guy talked about is the stuff that doesn't matter at all, like, fake videos, who the heck cares about the fake videos, i know its bad, but hes talking only about that like if its the worst thing, and he also lied about the chocolate thing
hello fraudpack glazer. watch the video
7 likesMr.Verified, stfu you didn't even watch the video
9 likesTbh at this point it's just a giant social experiment
0 likesi bet dogpack will "debunk" this shit
1 likeThis shiet is the most funniest sets of events in this drama
1 likeGuilty until proven innocent
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what
3 likesSo content chokidar Dank Rishu was copied from here
1 likeeveryone, just stop careing about silly internet drama and watch funny cat video to some miku or whatever song(s) you like
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@ because I watch my cat with some miku and watching this
0 likesyep. so why are you here?
1 likeThe chess pieces from Mr beast side are started to move (death note music started) , he got the many mr. beast crew and mr. beast even commented in this video(scroll down he said Finally! A video that doesn’t spread baseless slander about me lol) surely mr beast is involved. Now the tables had turned and pegasus got 12 ep 20 mins each worth of content it is going to be fun whose side to believe in, u wonder? believe in yourself and start a drama channel ,make pegasus your idol and make a mr beast, logan paul,ksi and dogpack404 shrine will help you in future. (be ready next dogpack video is about to drop) Your Welcome. WHITE
2 likesUnrelated. But hot take: I like soggy cereal. The cereal become a little sweet and makes it really good
3 likesEverything else is debunked except Jake Weddle and the illegal lotteries. Got it.
1 likeYoutube does updates to the UI so that can be why the UI is different.
2 likesWhen I'm at a lying and meatlicking competition and my opponent is soggy cereal:
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@@redguydhmishating for the love of the game. I respect it 🙏
2 likes@EyemachineStudios i was bored and i felt like being a hater, that's fair enough
5 likesDude soggy has literally said he isn't meat riding mrbeast, and even criticizes him at the end. Watch the damn video
14 likesIs this video really just an ad hominem attack on DogPack? C'mon do better bro.
2 likesthis has gotta be the most plot twisting moment ever with the mr beast drama
1 likeI tried my best to not ProJared it but the lack of response is painful... though it is also what ProJared did too right
1 likeim just so happy Stucky is finally getting the love and attention he deserves
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Same, he's unbelievably underrated
2 likesCan't wait "Soggy Cereal situation is insane"
1 like"Believe nothing you hear, and only believe half of what you see"
0 likesAbout the group chat 26:28
2 likesThe video that you show is from Whatsapp, while the allegedly messages are from Telegram.
Wow, I can’t believe I got manipulated by a fucking crying employee begging for his job and got mad he got fired for being an asshole, honestly this really opens my eyes to not trusting people.
2 likes47:58 amazing got it 10 secons after
1 likeW video!
3 likesMe too exposed dogpack404 3 times but it was not popular like your :D
Literally what is even going on anymore
0 likesdamn... can you do YouTube next?
0 likesIm here with soggy sounded too comfy , nice try mr beast
2 likesclose enough, welcome back IDubbbz
1 likeTakes months to research.
2 likesTakes a day for drama channels to steal it.
Yeah no, mrbeast damage recoverment getting a raise
0 likes"more youtubers milked it"
4 likesshows Onlypegasus, known for milking drama.
Great video, glad you debunked dogpack's "evidence"
Controlled opposition btw
2 likesMrbeast got his goons on the case 😂 THEY NOT LIKE US 🤣
1 likeSOGGY CEREAL NEVER MISSES
1 likeWhat do you mean delaware didn't wear a mask he did in the surviving solitary confinement
4 likeswaiting for the gelnox edit
0 likesi think that not centering the title of this video around dogpack really hurts its performance
1 likeMrBeast propaganda
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Watch the video lol😂
6 likes"a lot of youtubers tried milking it" only pegasus pops up
2 likeskinda funny
I appreciate this video. I bought into much of what DogPack said but still thought the allegations seemed exaggerated but there are some things that I'm not fussed about here:
3 likes- Just because Jimmy hired Delaware as a naive teenager doesn't mean that he never knew past that point that he was an RSO, how long did it take for him to find out? At what point did he take action?
- There is nothing stopping the MrBeast company from helping people walk. The attitude of blaming someone for restricting you from filming something you could easily do anonymously without filming actively pisses me off. Maybe there is more to it, I find it unlikely but I'd like to hear more.
- I think you are too harsh on Jake Weddle, he too said in the video that Delaware was just rumours and water cooler talk, I also think that he wasn't trying to imply the war crime stuff wasn't a joke, I think that fact he was laughing in the clip goes against that (but, I agree it was overblown by people). Yes, in theory he could have left at any time but he claims he was allegedly pressured into staying, that's the claim that needs to be searched.
Those are the only problems though, which when you think about it, none were brought up by Dawson which goes to show how much he lied. Enjoyed the video, gonna check out more of your channel
I'm sorry for having insulted your hair. Clearly, they are that way because they hold powers beyond our comprehension and you have been holding back your eldritch cereal powers until now.
0 likesActual competition to 2014 idubbbz
0 likesSo how much did you get paid for this propaganda nonsense?
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Hmm Actually its "Watch"!🤓
0 likes@@somegreatguy bro is just trying to hate on peoples opinions💀💀💀💀ive seen you in like 3 comment replys now💀💀💀💀
1 likeWhat the video instead of commenting lol😂
6 likesgossip disproved by... gossip?
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yeah this vid is equally sensationalist and uncharitable. it's hypocritical, although still worth having in the discussion.
1 likeI always thougth all the allegations was fake (especially since that vegan teacher tried to expose mrbeast)
0 likesThe glazing of MrBeast is on Next Level
3 likesWe're in thick of it
2 likesThe slop
0 likesBro is the $100,000 lawyer 😭🙏
7 likesThe description... I can't stop 😂
1 likewhen videos like this come out after drama i usually click off and think of it as some rage bait or some young overly defensive kid. But i genuinely believe in Soggy Cereal.
1 likehere is my thoughts all dogpack 404 stuff he has said was a lie that doesn't mean i should apologize to mr beast crypto and nft is a scam and it's obvious teaching kids to gamble is also bad even lunchly but for now i have learned my lesson i will never believe anything in the internet until there's true evidence it's best to do more research before finding it's true or false
0 likesI am 15 minutes into the video, I agree with everything. However, I do want to point out the alledged AI generated voice recording might be real, and that the person who sent it might have gotten scared of a potential law-suit so they backed out last minute and called it AI generated. The weekend after Weddle released the video, Mr Beast did also release his new collection of toy, there is no way anyone other than a Mr Beast employee would have known that Mr Beast is releasing toys.
2 likesEdit: just something I noticed, wanted to voice it out because I'd feel good about myself if someone else agreed haha
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no it 100% is ai generated, it’s pretty obvious if you watch jake’s video
1 like@@klank9409 What I remember is, someone sent it to Weddle, then that person said they were just trolling and that it was AI generated. It is still really odd they knew about Mr Beast's Toys 1 week before he announced it to the public.
0 likesfrom what i recall weddle was the one to recognize it was ai generated
1 likeThe only thing I disagree with is that Rosana and Jake being manipulated by Dogpack. Rosana has had an obsessive hate for Mr Beast since that stupid hide and seek video. This just allowed her to fan the flames. Jake took the opportunity and got a ton of eyes on his channel, as well as $50k from Mr Beast.
0 likesalways knew dogpack was an obsessed loser
0 likesthe original milk chocolate tasted like weak dark chocolate now the new one tastes like milk chocolate with little flavour still needs work if its going to be the best!!! better than the first attempt!!!
0 likes23:50 the fact that he shows that one guy is funny
1 likeso how much did jimmy pay you
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We really need to mind the fact that some "unbiased" youtuber flew overseas and conveniently asked all the right questions, then Jimmy popped his head in to say thanks.
0 likesafter watching the video i think it's very easy for both sides to fabricate evidence, take words out of context, and get people to lie, i just found jimmy's comment weird for all the reasons ethan stated. i don't really trust dogpack, jimmy or this guy
0 likesa third party hired by who exactly?
0 likes@@zorrger7first of all it was third party. Second of all would you believe alleged anonymous employee, or an actual employee with actual evidence
0 likesyes, let us ask the people working with jimmy for the "truth", you know, the ones that investigated themselves and found themselves not guilty?
1 like@ethan_00001 I mean Mr beast probably knew soggy interviewed his employees.
1 like@@ethan_00001no no, I agree with you. Something smells fishy. Jimmy MrBeast said he wouldn’t make a response until “all of the allegations about me have come out”, yet he’s responding in this very comment section and calling all of the allegations “baseless slander”. That is extremely suspicious.
4 likesI do doubt Dogpack404 now but there is still something that feels off. This video blew up and Mrbeast himself commented on it within 24 hours. I know its kind of an uncommon opinion but MrBeast commenting on this video so soon after the video came out feels off. Anyway, its just my opinion, I am only on it due to the drama.
6 likes@@om3ga364he didn’t watch the votes lol 😂😂
0 likesbruh have you even watched the video? It's not cool to spreal false accusation about peole and he is just debunking dogpack404 lies.
9 likesthere's a 3th solution, patience. Don't say anything about the drama and just wait
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@@cedarrrrr The first solution is Defending MrBeast (the worst thing these days), 2nd exposing DogPack, and the 3th, stay patient
0 likesexcuse me but a 3th? a thirth?
0 likesAt this point soggy cereal is the only real one
2 likesWe need more people like you
2 likesThis feels like an anime battle
3 likesHigehiro getting redeemed is the best part in all of this
1 likeoh god there's another layer
1 likethis is getting to wedding cake levels of layers
we're gonna drown in tons of "actually" and "it turns out"
free but you have to put your card info into the website not quit free!!!!
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1. no you don’t 2. quite*
0 likesNow Pegasus page will be covered with dogpack thumbnails
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😂
0 likesHere before asmongold watched the video
1 likeOof and the coffeezilla vid came out too now
1 likeHow is that Mr Bag doing you?
1 likeTL:DR - don't believe everything you hear on the internet, both people are guilty of their own things which should be addressed and fixed.
0 likesQuick corrections
0 likesDelaware; I don't believe the allegation was ever that jimmy intentionally hired an RSO, the allegation was that he didn't do the background check, thus accidentally hiring an RSO. People kind of twisted it into saying that he intentionally hired an RSO
"War crimes"; yeah, of course the war crime thing was a joke that just got out of hand. Weddle was just cracking up telling it to dogpack. Dogpack twisted that into trying to make it seem serious, but I don't think it worked well. All the commenters talking about it are purely joking.
I respect you for being a true journalist, but everyone makes mistakes, so I'll just try and list them for you to improve
Idk anymore
1 likeWho can I even trust at this point?
1 likePolitics have gotten into youtube and grown to the size bigger, than celebrity drama...
0 likesNow there is no place, besides god forsaken forums, where there wouldnt be "parties" doing 8d chess with each other and common folk bum holes and the rest wouldnt feel like mindless masses being bossed around and left out of the situation to be taken advantage of in the future
next vid: the REAL truth about Soggy
0 likesAt this point i dont care anymore, is Mrbeast a shitty person? sure. Is Dogpack a shitty person? sure. Is Soggy Cereal probably a shitty dude? sure. Youtube drama has gone to the point of being a meaningless back and forth, between people who are manipulating information. Its a waste of time and energy, and i am beyound caring anymore
1 likeThe slop keeps getting thicker what the fuck is even going on anymore
1 likeMr beast sending soggy cereal lot of cereal
1 likeCan't wait for can nuggets to defend this one
1 likeWe are in the days of the contentcop wars. Who will rise to challenge this man now?
1 likeJust because DogPack isn't a picture perfect guy doesn't mean we should discredit everything he said, same goes for Mr. Beast. Just watch from the sidelines and wait for the truth to rear its head. In the end, I believe ALL OF THIS would be cleared up if Jimmy just responded, but because he's taking the silent approach, it's leading a bunch of people to either support dogpack or just remain indifferent to it all.
5 likesTime for more pegasus to make 50 more videos with the same thumbnail
2 likesBump
1 likeWe need to place a more nuanced lense over these situations. This video proves this.
2 likesTo be fair, i did not trust him ever since he used the "I used to work for Mr.Beast" because of "Posible vengeneance video", but after i saw him in a police custom?, i just called bs to every single thing coming out of him, any one who does that in a not ironic way is, at the very least, weird. Is his case, he was just an annoying assole
0 likesi always knew something was fishy with dogpack like bro came out of nowhere and started saying stupid allegations with no proof and everyone is following this
0 likesI just realized I wasn’t subscribed to you
1 likeI want Jimmy to just respond and it will end just like that
0 likesIt's that easy and simple
But, now that we know he was “lying”, how do we know YOU aren’t lying?
5 likesI just want everyone here to know to take this with a grain of salt, Soggy Cereal has falsely accused people before.
3 likesTbh the more dogpark kept talking the worse his whole story got
1 likethe signs were there and im surprised people took time to find out about it
OKAY!!! Mr. Beast Personally Owes you a Mansion NOW🤣
3 likesIts funny how not only you’re homaging the content cop style, put you’re also the same format of white person as classic iDubbz.
0 likesoh you clout chasing dummy, i wanted mrbeast HIMSELF to expose all of that, ugh... way to go...
2 likesOhhh he's taking the words of Mr. Beast employees, as if they won't have a bias
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@@asdfg5721I don't believe Dogpack either; but I trust anyone who defends Jimmy even further.
0 likesDid you watch it? That part is like the end of the vid with only 1/20 of the the whole vid. If anything I don’t trust the guy who claims to have insider knowledge while only work for Mr Beast for 20 days, won’t show proof (keep showing anonymous messages which are so easy to fake).
1 likeBro got paid off by Mr. Beast
2 likesAnother episode in the Mr Breast Sloppenheimer saga
0 likesThis video has really strong points, but the Ava part was just bad. A lot of the points in it, should have been cut out.
0 likesThis just keeps gettin wilder and wilder
0 likesstrawman 52:10
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@@Adin2346 i searched strawman and the first thing i got is this : (an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument.
0 likes"her familiar procedure of creating a straw man by exaggerating their approach")
strawman is basically deforming the argument into an extremist like argument that can't be reasonably be defended at least this what i understood.
@@Adin2346 i don't remember what dogpack said exactly but i'am 90% sure he was just saying that it's sketchy and unethical to put your staff as a contestant which is in my opinion. but what S.C doing is jumping to conclusions it's like when someone says i don't like dating X and someone jumps in and says : so you hate X !! you look inferiorly on X don't you?.
0 likesHow? A strawman argument is when you twist someone’s words to make it easier to attack them.
1 likeThis is the new L vs Light Yagami.
0 likesok you lost me when you claimed the philantropy helped millions of people.
9 likesa) not even close
b) most of that so called philantropy is just show and no actual help
c) if actually good charities were given the money, they would manage to do much more good than mr beast
d) mr beast is a billionaire afaik. if he is all about doing good, why does he have so much money?
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@@Arandomuser610 from research. something you should do on accasion before you make your wild claims....
0 likes@ business insider, cnbc
0 likes@lilin1242 700 million? Where the hell did you get this information
0 likes@@Arandomuser610 what? The Mr beast corporation last year made $700 million in revenue. It is safe to assume that Mr beast is a multi-billion-dollar corporation
0 likes@lilin1242 not you too 🤦♂️
0 likes@@Arandomuser610Mr beast might not have a billion dollars but he is the CEO and founder of a multi-billion dollar corporation
1 like@@dervakommtvonhinten517 and it's common sense you don't have to call him a fanboy so you actually need to grow up and to get a brain and wtf do you mean by the last part "charity even just 1 million people" like what
1 like@@dervakommtvonhinten517 Mr beast is a multi-millionaire but he does not have 20 million + or even 10 no idea where you got the "billionaire"
1 likeWill you go out of your room today Tony or just going to sit on the computer again? Mommy miss you very much and want you to go outside again. Also it time to change your diaper honey. ❤️❤️❤️
1 like@@daysandwords hello mr fanboy. even if he isnt a billionaire and not "only" got several hundreds of millions of dollars, the same principle applies.
3 likesand i guess if nothing of what i said made sense to you, then you should take your own advice and grow a brain.
in the meantime, how about you show that mr beasts "charity" even just ONE million people.
@@daysandwords He is lmfao
2 likes???
1 likeNothing you say makes any sense and no, Mr Beast is not a billionaire.
10 likesGo and grow a brain.
When the video came out, I commented about Higehiro not being about that at all on Rosana's video... Just checked, it got deleted :/
0 likes(However, I want to state that even if we assume everything you showed was true, Jimmy would still be an a*hole: The evidence about Shadman, Market manipulation, the hospital, and similar stuff are simply unrefutable since we can, and I have, check for ourselves. While the rest of the accusations rely on detective work, those are for everyone to see on Wayback machine.)
didn't really talk about the fake philanthropy
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Do you have proof that any fake philanthropy happened or just watch a youtube vid or on twitter and just believe it? Sure cgi to make stuff look worse is bad but they did built wells and hospital so idk how you think that just mean everything are fake? Please just not care about anything online in the future if you not going to do any actual research. It because of this that lead to Trump’s voter searching “What is a tariff?”.
0 likesthat's either just TeamTrees/TeamSeas being about publicity around a topic instead of effectiveness which was the goal from the beginning, some CGI used in a few scenes in a few videos, which is only a way to stretch what was done (for the purpose of making it prettier in the video, not as a direct claim) and not faking an entire philanthropic effort even though that was questionable, the repeated scenes on the wells video that could be lazy editing and not proof that the wells with those numbers weren't built (you don't see the majority anyway, as it's a compact video), or a single organization that wasn't paid because the funds given by MrBeast's team weren't forwarded by SEE International.
0 likesdon't think this justifies saying it's "fake philanthropy", unless there is more.
I look stupid at this point.😂
0 likesMr beast is a bad person but dogpack is even worse and like, the lore is worse than the fnaf lore at this point so like i dont know shit about this stuff but that lunchly is bad and mr bad dogpack said
0 likesIts over for dogpack
1 likeIts done
Hes finished
Finally over
I swear nothing is real at this point 😭🙏
1 likeI never believed Dogpack but everyone else did, and eventually I thought that I was probably wrong. I never shared my opinions because everyone believed him, and a lot of people seemed more qualified than me on the matter. I never let that feeling that something was wrong go though. Always trust your gut.
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Why wouldnt you believe lmfao
0 likesYeah same.
1 likeOn the topic of warcrimes.. was it one? Probably not. Was Jake "detained"? Definitely not, but if you think that being featured in a Mr. Beast isn't coming with a lot of pressure. Jimmy is also very focused. If he had a day 1 flop in the challenge he'd probably never put Jake in a leading role again, if nothing else because of how expensive these things are to organize. Saying that Jake "could've just left at any time" is incredibly disingenuous.
0 likesPlot twist - soggy cereal is mrbeast's 1M$ Lawyer
6 likes22:24 i really want to hate you for putting shade on the flash but i cant (because its bad and its valid lmao)
0 likesso it is bad when dogpack records someone, but when the ceo record him, it is another matter?
4 likessoggy is in the whole video like, dogpack is manipulative, but at the same time, he does the same thing
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@@daysandwords i paid attention and it was clearly for me.
3 likesi mean why did the ceo record him even at the first place?
and soggy was really manipulative in his own video and blamed dopack to be manipulative...
Not even close. Pay more attention dude.
0 likesThe 1 million dollar lawyer has arrived
0 likesJokes aside, great video man. You really cleared up a lot of things, and it seems many others feel the same way!
W VID
0 likesWaited for Dogpack404 downfall 😭🙏
0 likeshe literally looks like iDubbbz..
0 likesThis is incredibly similar to Dogpack‘s video in terms of style, which doesn’t really sit right with me if he actually wants to seem trustworthy. (I don’t believe any of these people. I think Mr. Beast is shady, because he had controversies before this, but I also don’t want to Parrot Dogpack or this guy.)
0 likeshop off mrbeasts rod
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@@AntifaTheCatlet me guess you didn't watch the video
0 likes@@AntifaTheCat Hop off dogpack404s rod
7 likesimagine supporting the guy who had CP hanged up on his wall. you obviously just want to get clout. the title says it all/
3 likesI understand, we should have checked DogPack´s claims but why Mr.Best´s team did not explain some of this stuf and why they stayed silent ?
2 likesFinally, hunt the idiots that want to hate because they want to hate DOWN!!
0 likesno no no this cant be im the glazer
0 likesYour entire argument against Dawson, is this: "He says "Trust me bruh" and we just gotta believe him."
7 likesYour video is the exact same crap. The people you're interviewing still work with Mr. Beast or have a connection to him that they wish to remain positive. All of it is literally "Trust me bruh" too. This video means about as much as you make Dogpack's vids out to be. You're all just spewing crap. Meanwhile Coffeezilla actually comes out with actual documented proof of real allegations and stuff that Jimmy STILL refuses to answer.
See here's your problem Cereal man.. its not Dogpack's lack of proof. It's Jimmy's lack of any response with any substance.. and the fact your vid is LITERALLY the exact same.. that 1 dollar detective work really shows here man. And after dealing with CCP shills my entire life due to my friends being Chinese Dissidents, I can't even fully trust you cause firstly- there's nothing you can say that doesn't debunk the fact that Jimmy might be paying you here.
I want to believe Mr. Beast is a great guy, he inspired me as a kid. But all I get out of this is.. "Both Jimmy and Dogpack are crap, and Cereal and Beast employees are just saying shit.." And you're using the SAME clipping shit that you're accusing Dogpack of.. "OH MR. BEAST FUNDED ME.. BUT-" show the rest of that but man.. this is Authoritarian Government levels of "Clipping out of context" And I should know.. again.. I'VE SEEN IT PERSONALLY.
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@@artoriapendragon3234 I highly doubt it, dogpack and the people who defended him actively called anyone who cricized his content a "mrbeast glazer" and everytime dogpack published a video one day later you have people debunking arguments in his videos due to his lack of research.
0 likesJust compare their coverage by seeing how many times did dogpack show actual evidence for his claims or when did soggy show actual evidence, dogpack showed multiple annonymous employees which were inherently tied to his credibility and soggy showing multiple people with faces and names which you can actually research.
Acting like dogpack's coverage on the topic is on the same level as soggy's coverage as being both full of crap is frankly an absurd argument.
@@lpe67 i did.. and frankly they're both full of crap.
0 likesWatch both dogpack and soggy's treatment of the situation, your comment is really childish
0 likes@@EmptyShark To sum up my wall of text, I agree with you. But I don't want to enjoy their content cause they don't deserve my views or me adding to their stats imo.. but that's totally opinion of course.. everyone does what they do. I'm guilty of reading Harry Potter and playing Hogwarts Legacy even though I disagree with Rowling's opinions on Trans people after all .
0 likes@@EmptyShark the same can be said of Dogpack's evidence too, its why it hit so hard when his vid is pretty low quality and barely anybody knows him. This is literally green apple vs red apple, they're both apples, and like you said- its not good vs evil, its crap vs bigger crap, it's the US goddang election. That's what pisses me off about this. We already KNOW all that crap about weddle and dogpack and he's putting it out there like its news that changes everything.. and Jimmy Commenting on his page makes it even MORE sus given how SILENT he's been on everything else. Overall.. Soggy ain't as trustworthy as he'd like us to think he is here imo, and we should all take what he says.. and what his interviewees say with as much salt as we take Weddle's statements and Dogpack's own evidence.
0 likesI mean some of the evidence Soggy pointed out are very easy to see. If you're not satisfied, you can just do the research yourself. The thing is there is almost always never a "good vs evil" "light vs dark" in real life. Mr Beast is a scum, no doubt. Especially after watching coffee's vid on him, it becomes clearer. But that doesnt mean dogpack is clean either. If dog could lie once then he could too next. If he could, then soggy can too. The point is it's better to take everything on internet with a grain of salt. As hard as it is, the best way to survive on internet is not being attached to any particular creator. You can enjoy their contents and there is no need for anything more. It will just expose you to their manipulations otherwise.
3 likesto anyone here, as someone who studies history, do not choose any side. You go on a side as far as you agree with the interpretation. some allegations are more likely to be true than others, accept those, but don't trust all of them. accept that mrbeast has done charity and value that, but do not think he is a perfectly good person. there is no in the middle, there is no on one side, and there is no queen of england. you just have to be at a reasonable point between likely, unlikely and false.
3 likesReally good video! Hopefully, it gets a similar reach to the Dogpack videos to correct some of the misinformation
0 likesHaven't watched the video yet, just wanna say the content cop intro is fire, and it's cool to see the whole "content cop" thing has transcended iDubbbz
0 likesSoggy Cerela is pushing a social narrative base on hate the gain attention.
2 likesHe's a puppet in my Opinion.
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Your opinion is dumb
1 likeThank You for talking About Hegehiro
0 likesmrbeast just pulled out a uno reverse card
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@@IRaKaNI_chat?
0 likesand mrbeast didnt respond to the chat allegations
0 likesSomething that irked me is that... the fucking Geneva Convention only applies when you're actively at war or otherwise engaged in an armed conflict. And I highly doubt Jimmy has ever been engaged in any armed conflicts.
0 likes1:25:50 ahem sponsorblock
0 likesbro what a uno reverse card
1 likeTHE DUTCH MAN IS REPRESENTING US IN THIS DRAMA
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@@daysandwords Nvm I don't know this man
0 likesHe's Belgian
0 likesThis is the most unbiased and well researched video about Mrbeast....
2 likesWaiting for MorePegasus' new upload post watching this
2 likesAnother reason as to why people were more inclined to believe dogpack(including me) was the fact that mr beast went radio silent on his twitter while this was going on and broke the silence with the announcement of lunchly in collaboration with logan paul and ksi(content creators that are pretty shaddy) and the lack of acknowlegment on the whole situation. And another factor as to why people became more critical of mr beast with these allegations was the fact that you couldn't criticise mr beast without people defending him with the acts of charity that he has done(which should be put under question marks as well). Honestly these are my opinions and I could be wrong
1 likeAli Koca was right all along
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Ali Koca didn’t debunk shit, he just insulted Dogpack’s looks which was unproductive.
0 likesMan this is the biggest youtube drama i ever seen
0 likesNow everybody will be on Mr Beast's side and hate on dogpack, then there will be another vid on Mr Beast and people will just change sides and makes useless slop videos.
3 likesthis isnt the hitpiece you think it is, dogpack is unhinged many times, but showing an audio recording of him wanting to retain his job is the most normal thing anyone will ever do. Have you people never worked in your lives, earning livelihood is no joke... and then again the "but muh philantropy" argument, bill gates is a "philantropist" but nobody, rightfully so, defends his deplorable actions because of it...
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Begging for his job was to show that he genuinely is just a disgruntled employee like he swears he's not. But he so clearly is.
1 likeThe cp doesnt matter if it was in the end or not, Ava sent it BELIEVING IT WAS, that is the whole contention, maybe not with dogpack but with the public
5 likesHere for the username
0 likesThis video is the definition of "tell me you've been paid by Mrbeast without telling me you've been paid by Mrbeast" because if Dogpack404 was actually dishonest and lying, Mrbeast would be the first one with his PR team to address it, not some cereal guy YouTuber.
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@@gamezone2996this is silly he also exposes airrack who is well known to be a good friend of beast so if he is paid why would he do that
0 likes@@breter98 took him 3 months to have a law firm "disprove" the stuff on twitter, which was only 2 pages.
1 likeThen the cease and desist, and while there are a lot more, the beast himself commented on this video without really watching it (didnt know he'd get critized aswell).
Personally, i think while it does explain why dogpack did what he did with a grudge, doesnt mean he is entirely wrong, and that even if not everything was done poorly by jimmy, he certainly is bad for censoring comments n other stuff.
Comment back if you dislike my opinion, yeah?
@@thebestkillersolo404 watch the video..? also why would mrbeast pay someone to debunk the allegations for him if he can do it himself
1 like@@HalfAnimation To make it seem like he wasn't paid by mrbeast
1 likeif he was paid by mrbeast, why would he say so many bad things about him at the end of the video?
0 likesHave you seen the contents of this video?
0 likes@@breter98 lmfao prove it bud
2 likesLMFAO sure bud
2 likesThe only honest here in this video is soggy. I know u soggy u have alot of questions that u know their lying in front of your face but. Thank god you didn't screw up🙏❤️.
0 likesSO WE GOT TRICK again both of them are fake ?
0 likesIm so so glad that you made this, i was interested in the dogpack stuff but never really knew how serious to take it. Once he uploaded the second one where jake cried and did that "warcrime" """""joke"""""" i was very confused since thats not something to joke about even tho him laughing for me made it clear that he didnt mean it, however it really doesn't excuse the fact he did it. Thank you soggy for clearing up everything, ima share this vid with many ppl i know.
0 likesI am glad to see a movie length video since i've been watching basically since you started youtube, thanks for putting in so much work and keep it up!
im just going to stop listening to anything MrBeast good or bad. But i must ask why didnt they respond properly to anything serious. Also Logan Paul is awful
0 likesi hated how when ludwig asked him how does he know there was a yacht, he insulted lud instead of answering. Ludwig got shit for asking a simple question
0 likesThank you for making this vid I used to believe everything dog pack said but now I realise how ballshit he is.
0 likesJesus Christ man Make this situation end already
0 likesJesus Christ man Make this situation end already
1 likeYa'll, have some brain. Don't trust or take a side so blindly. I feel like when this vid gets popular, it'll become Mr. Beast's defenders to use against the opposition. Stop, that ain't it. Mr. Beast is still bad, and now DogPack is too. Also on the fence with this vid because his source is backed up with one credible(?) person the whole time up until the interview.
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@@daysandwordsthey literally did lmao.
0 likesIt would help if you watched the video
0 likesHonestly the best thing atp is to just grab your popcorn and watch this entire shit unfold (or just simply not care at all) and then wait and see how things end up, im not taking any sides until everything has been assessed so we can actually be certain on who's right and who's wrong
1 likeIf this is true Mr. Beast employees and Jimmy Donaldson himself should be suing Dogpack404 for defamation against all of them instead of interviewing for a drama video on YouTube.
1 likeAfter all, according to this video, discovery will go in their favor. They have nothing to hide because they’ve already admitted to all their wrongdoings.
That they’re going to YouTube instead of to court should call into question everything contained in this video.
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@@unsyoutube9768 if you’re that curious about my deal, it’s because I was recovering from the flu and my mind was too foggy to do lacework or research the subject I’m actually working on (although it is adjacent to controlling public narratives, funnily enough). When my fever started breaking I deleted most of my comments since I realized I didn’t want to be associated with ongoing propaganda.
0 likesNow that my fever broke for real I’ve already lost interest in this.
But if you see me commenting on drama again you can assume I’m taking a work break or have a cold. Usually true.
This video is worse than I remember it btw. That’s flu brain for you.
@@Arandomuser610 apparently curiosity is obsession but shutting questions down is just good civics or something. We live in a society. A bad one.
0 likes@@unsyoutube9768just put the laces in the bag? What does that even mean and by the way you're also obsessed with dog pack
3 likes@@Lacewise bros acting like he knows everything behind the scenes
2 likes@@Lacewise just put the laces in the bag lil bro why are you so obsessed i thought you said you werent chronically online
2 likesMr Beast still sucks and you didn't really disprove anything, mr Beast still did everything Dog Pack said and you are doing the exact same thing Dog Pack did by making this video
3 likesI’d like to say something about the boys v girls video. In the challenge with the Rubik’s cubes, the “only” boy who could solve a cube was offered money to leave. Somehow, the boys still won the challenge. As someone who can solve a cube, it is not at all intuitive and not possible to solve without a tutorial. So either Jimmy beast lied about there only being one boy who could solve one, or he rigged that part. Just an interesting detail I noticed
1 likeYou sound so gay in that "yes" clip. Stop using it.
0 likesgreen aura wit flies
1 likeThere's a decent amount of bad info on here and usually love your videos while dog pack isn't great this feels more like a petty revenge video that's missing a lot of research just like a dog pack video
2 likes"It hurts our philanthropy work" oh really? The work that mrbeast fakes?
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You have no soul
0 likesLiterally no proof other than CGI has been found.
0 likesBasically, mrbeast is still irresponsible and too busy for these allegations, while dogpack further makes the allegations worse.
1 likewhat is the song from 1:00 to 1:50
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nvm found it, it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGJAt_h73RE&ab_channel=OtisMcDonald-Topic
1 likeI still don’t know what is the actual truth
2 likesthe Mr. Beast glaze is crazy
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@@Vedant9710it’s not glazing it’s proper journalism
0 likes@@dsebbebridge2674 to me that doesn't matter because he has a malicious hatred of dogpack and a slightly negative view of Mr. Beast as soon as I heard how he described each of them it was obvious he favored Mr beast side more than dog packs
0 likes@@Vedant9710in my opinion not responding is a smart thing to do because if you respond it could make everything a lot worse
0 likes@@Vedant9710 learn the word glaze
0 likes@@dsebbebridge2674 It's still glazing if Mrbeast himself doesn't respond and a random ass youtuber has to make a video to defend him. All I'm saying is that if dogpack was lying, Mrbeast would literally be the first one to address it to save his image from false information. Use some common sense next time.
3 likesHave you watched the video? He literally criticised MrBeast so much, he just also criticised DogPack404
13 likesThere is no good side just evil and lesser evil to choose between
0 likesI'm 19 and i'm not stupid enough to hire a random guy i find in a local best buy to run my newly found famous youtube channel, that's just stupid.
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it was 6 years ago youtube fam was diff
1 like3:07 HALK TUAH
1 likecant wait for the soggy cereal video
0 likesI going to have Chadcat do a summary about this video .
0 likesthe work put into this is insane. Great vid.
2 likesAlthough Dogpack definitely did some real fucked shit, it still opened up a discussion about his actions whether it be past or current ones. For instance the crypto stuff or payments not being received.
0 likesMy brain hurts...
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me to
0 likesI just hope that people don't flip their opinion like a pendulum swing. Yes a-lot of the claims about the MrBeast company have been misleading or outright lies but as you said in the video there is still a-lot of things that need accounting for. People on the internet have a sort of tendency to see the world in black and white. I'm guilty of this two but guys...
0 likesMULTIPLE THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT ONCE
Media literacy is a thing
22:24 I will not take any flash slander
1 liketime to update your likes and dislikes on videos if you did this in the past
0 likesAMAZING VIDEO SOGGY you legit DESTROYED dogpack i had a feeling all his videos were a cashgrab / bullshit if you have another mr beast video in mind i have more info.... from insiders
1 likeDogpack404 didn't do enough in depth research on the accusations he accused MrBeast of, he made a lot of assumptions that he saw on video without doign like really any interview, almost any thing that a MrBeast employee said defending about MrBeast, he brushed it off as them getting paid to say that. He knew that people will believe him, and they won't bother to research, so he will get that clout.
0 likesaaaaaa the SlopTuber Deceit Detector is going off the chart!
4 likesJust a quick thought. Why would you assume Chris' intention when telling beast about the anime was to show him that "its wholesome".
We all know he just in for the little kid bru stop trying to pull the "mrbeast didn't know!!" card we all saw The video of him staring down shadman's "art" bru.
Like thats if you say that theres no pattern to serial killers, theres always some sort of pattern, and Chris' pattern of Diddling is quite obvious he "enjoys" media featuring little Kids.
The fact you leave out so Much context in the "false cp allegation" section is just. Bruh.
banger video
0 likesThere's one key detail you forgot to note regarding dogpack's accusations:
0 likesWas the raccoon a paid actor?
Lapdog for mb
3 likesbut why mrbeast not respond?
1 likeI love how it doesn't matter whoever you're talking about or accusing, the bad things are always true when trannies are involved, holy fucking shit, when are we going to hunt down those people?
2 likesThis video reeks
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@@Arandomuser610 you read it and took the time to respond dork
0 likes@@yurilover2017I like the fact you typed all of this. just knowing he's not going to respond to you or even read this😂
0 likeseverything was already such a red flag n then 13 minutes in i hear you say he "slips up" About a joke that was clearly like a half joke the whole time.. by clarifying that it was both a joke and was true.. Dogpack seems like a weirdo but you're trying too hard to be idubbbz Sometimes people are complicated n don't suck Bad video very poorly made and poorly executed. Also you're annoying
6 likesSo why this don’t go viral like his did on ts crazy just want to see mr beast go down
0 likesI thought dogpack video was overly critical and kinda weird. Same with yours too. Both feels like a malicious agenda or just ingenuine.
0 likesBasically, i just drink the tea and taste the change over time.
Tho I’m on the side of dogpack and beasty both not being “good person” and are just humans with ego.
just curious though, what about the beast games allegations? is it real or also fabricated?
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Check out time works I think time works did check them out can't remember that well
0 likessoggy researched señor donaldson’s empire!!
0 likesolder runescape soundtrack hits hard
0 likesI couldn't care less if Dogpack404 is a bad person because if the things he is saying about MrBeast are true then that was the whole point, exposing MrBeast Company of its wrongdoings and outright illegal shit. I feel like we are just side stepping the whole conversation that MrBeast is in fact not a good person and instead scrutinizing the individual that exposes him. Also we can talk about two things at the same time yk, sure it's good to get the truth out for someone to see him for who he really is(Dogpack404), however I think that things the he is accusing The MrBeast Company for are much MUCH more severe than what dirt we can pull out of Dogpack's Closet, because then people will just not find him credible anymore which helps MrBeast get his name cleaned when there is some bad shit that he did. So I feel like we should first settle if the accusations Dogpack makes are true so we can hold MrBeast accountable and then we can look into Dogpack.
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Did you even watch it
2 likesAre you a short bus enthusiast !
2 likesAre you an idiot? Did you watch the video at all?
4 likes...did you watch the whole video? he does exactly that
5 likesman i knew dogpack was cappin. he gave like zero proof for so many of his claims and acted like a total schizo
2 likesThis video did justice honestly , even if Mr beast is kinda shady for Crypto , it was really a fool of me to believe dogpack stuff without checking , which I felt were kind of going a bit too far anyways
2 likes1:02 this intro, it awoke a memory of a long forgotten past. many happy memories
1 likeThis proves that videos and audios displayed in a controversy videos are still unreliable depending on how much they reveal and show clarity. Just because something exist in a form of a media to be used as 'evidence' doesn't mean it tells the real, full picture of the story, and can be vaguely fabricated in some sort of way, just to further ruin someone's image not just deeply, but permanently. I knew something was off with Dogpack404 initiating this controversy demonstrating his proof, but at the same time expressively making fun of mrbeast's action, with his often dramatical expressions, has a negative behavior rather than a neutral one, almost as if like he's a villian.
1 likeJake weddle came across as honest, but dogpack felt like he was hiding stuff i dunno
1 likeHonestly, im only commenting to boost this video on the algorythm. I hate defamation, and i always felt off with the whole dogpack stuff, im glad there are actual facts coming out and stuff. The plot thickens indeed...
3 likesPlease fire the person writing 2024😭💀
1 likeNah this shit is insane great job soggy
3 likesAt this point this entire drama is just Jimmy's Bizarre Adventure
1 likeMy brain is hurting so much this year
2 likesHi Soggy I’d love if you also discuss about the video on building wells and the hospital cgi controversy. I am also really curious about the perspectives of the people the team had worked with when creating these philanthropy videos (e.g. Dora from Mapapa) to know if what they did are truly helping them after the filming! Not to mention there is also a bit of controversy over whether TeamSeas is actually helping marine life or not as well. Nevertheless thank you for this really informative video
0 likesJust because a woman helped write the no doesn't mean no thing doesn't change a thing
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@@brettgregson29 ok mt bad thought you were being serious
0 likes@@AaronSmith-rm9kl It was a SA joke.. Big business brain
0 likesThis is silly as it was not meant in that context therefore you should not take it in that context
0 likes@@brettgregson29 ur dogpack opposition
1 likeUr controlled opposition
2 likesAnd you listened to what she said it meant from a business perspective? Like "don't instantly take no for an answer find another way" because yaknow if you're running a business and just take every no as a hard stop your business makes it nowhere.
1 likeSurprisingly enough a saying can have more than one meaning
Now that you didn't touch the internet slop dilemma i feel this time your video doesn't need to be taken down
0 likesdude this really restored my hope in humanity a little bit. not because i think mr beast is not bad or anything like that but when i was watching the dogpack video, i was like "no way mr beast got away with this much lies, no way he fooled everyone for this long" and turns out yeah we weren't actually fooled about everything
4 likesI guess ali koka was right
1 likeThank you soggy for opening my eyes!
2 likesSoggy Cereal: so Dawson, you want me to talk about this? WELL I WILL TALK ABOUT IT
0 likesthank GOD i did not believe dogpack404 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
3 likesNASA can declare the Earth is actually flat all along and I'd probably not be surprised.
0 likesI maintained a position of being on the fence during this whole thing but I always felt that what Dawson was saying was a load of shit with some truths sprinkled in.
1 likeI did alude to that publicly though because of me being a niche online person that nobody cares about (And the fact that Twitter forces a pay to win option to express opinions now, fuck that), I didn't get that much hate about it.
Stucky was a very good person that called Dawson out on a lot of his bs and I think he helped show that to people, but I think this video is further proof, especially with proper sources to disprove Dawson's """arguments""" , and the evidence that I already knew about why he was fired and his large online footprint, it just shows his claim about not doing it for personal gain was a fucking lie.
I didn't really trust Dawson that much from the start and I really hate that so many people believed him.
There are genuine criticisms to call Jimmy out on, but Dawson was quite literally the worst person to spearhead this whole "Mr. Beast is a bad guy" thing.
How big was the check from Mr Beast for that video ?
0 likesWe owe an apology to ali koca now
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@@Arandomuser610 the thing is that the possible lawauit was because He couldnt handle being criticised by the person in question. That's an asshole move
0 likes@@Blazearrowin my country getting married at 16 years old is considered normal like my mom keeps telling me other 16 year olds would have had children by now so I don't think threatening to sue a minor a bad thing but I guess in America it's a bad thing
0 likesHe is stil threatened to Sue a minor because of a video
0 likeslearn audio balance and compression ty
0 likesnice
1 likePeople in their late 20s acting as if they are still in high school. Grow up lol..
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@@NotSponsoredByEA Yeah why are you here.
0 likesDogpack 404, he is up to something more,
2 likesScheming and deceiving, it's fraud to the core.
Watch out for his tricks, don't fall for his lore,
Dogpack 404, always looking to score.
To be honest with you, the “Slop content is ruining YouTube” video was bad, but this video is more than compensation; it's a reward. It's the most nuanced and smart take I may have ever seen from the Mrbeast defender's side.
2 likesAnother insane plot twist in this show.
2 likesBoth MrBeast and DogPack404 are FRAUDS
2 likesI’m not spending an hour on this bullshit. Idk what the motivations behind Dog Packs videos were, Mr Beast has been shown to be a greedy grifting ass hat. Plus I don’t trust anyone who’s eye look dead when they smile. Mr Beast is a symptom of a greater problem. When people like him and the Paul brothers are making millions while others suffer to get by it’s just gross. People who worship celebs are gross. Humans are just trash in general it appears. While I’m at it Fuck Elon Musk. Eat the rich.
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@@Kaybeeguy nah he’s just the short bus enthusiast a real special person
0 likes@@KaybeeguyI'm assuming so
0 likesHe criticised Jimmy as well.
6 likesDo you need an ADHD summary video?
Here we fucking go
0 likesYou really will never know what happens behind closed doors
0 likesAight so jimmy is less bad now
0 likesI don't know who to trust anymore💀💀💀💀💀
1 likeI've been investigating your video for the past 10 minutes (laughs) and I don't like how you frame Jake Weddle in it.
0 likesYou showed some pretty dark tweets from May 2020 (so... pandemic tweets). You did this to suggest that he wasn't in the right headspace to do this isolation challenge.
Are they really his deleted tweets? Did you verify that in any way? No? Then why are you doing this?
I'm pretty sure that he did the challenge around July 2021 based on the screenshots of his private messages that were shared. Yes, they are in dogpack404's video, but I don't think dogpack404 changed the dates on those chats.
Also: Jake Weddle made a video "why i left Mrbeast" in November 2020. He did the challenge after he left the company so even if dogpack404 changed the dates because "reasons" it's still some time AFTER those maybe his tweets.
And the thing that you said at the beginning.... Are you serious? Are you seriously downplaying this isolation challenge? Are you seriously victim blaming?
In the end both you and dogpack played the Content Cop role beautifully. And that's not a compliment cause iDubbbz's series was just punching down on people garbage. Go boys!
This whole situation feels like a story or show with insane plot twists.
1 likeLooking at the current state of things
2 likesi think DogPack Did get his revenge and ruin the mrbest image for everyone.
Although did this put a stain on mrbest image he will recover from this eventually.
If you think about it
All he wanted to do is not prove mr beast is bad he wanted to ruin thier image to get revenge on firing him from that company.
Subbed.
2 likesyes but was the raccoon an actor?
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No - it was for real actually!
0 likes" soggy cereal situation is insane "
1 likethis got soggier👁👄👁
0 likesAt this point we should make a dogpack404 aethos mod?
0 likesThe 1 dollar lawyer is better the 1m dollar lawyer
1 likeYa but what about the payed raccoon actor???? WHAT ABOUT THE PAYED RACCOON ACTOR
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@@PParsaif you put the cat in a ceiling then yell at it ya idiot think so.
0 likesIt was for real, actually!
0 likes@@gray_guy_dude2so does that mean cat videos are animal cruelty
0 likesNo like seriously would that not be some form of animal cruelty?
2 likesI have watched higehiro (the anime from around 31:00) and Its not just a 28yo going out with a 17yo. if someone wants me te elaborate then ill type some more
1 likeMorePegasus is about to drop another banger about DogPack404
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You mean 20 vids?
1 likeTruly, a PERFECTION.
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(but I can make it even better)
0 likesI always have doubts about dogpack 404 lol, thinking he is getting his revenge because he didn't get the job.
2 likesHonestly even if some of the stuff you say is true, why ain't Mr.Beast's team coming out to debunk the false accusations? Why's some random jerk on the internet like you getting involved when the major issues with Mr.Beast are proven to be true simply by the fact that mr.beast's crew didn't address any of the major allegations and instead is staying quiet, they addressed minor issues just like you did with the "whenever the warcrime thing was a joke or not", get to the point, nobody cares about the minor issues, your input in this was completely unnecessary.
2 likesHad to grab my popcorn for this one
0 likesi knew it lmao and no one took me seriously
1 likeNgl your suit looks kinda good on you, i've been wanting to see that dogpack downfall lol
1 likeWhy does Dogpack look like Soggy if Soggy stop mewing
1 likeBro, I'm still only 36 min in, and I have to say: you already completely cooked that Dog guy! I can't believe there is still 50 min more left.
0 likesThis is the Final War from Ultrakill. People trying to one-up eachother...
0 likesI'm seriously impressed that you flew to the USA for this, especially, as you pointed out, NC is not exactly where one would choose to go.
1 likeThe funniest part is, Dawson said that MrBeast or anyone close to him will probably say that DogPack is a obsessed MrBeast fan and a disgruntled employee, and here we are, him getting called a disgruntled employee and a obsessed MrBeast fan with lots of proof. Was he trying to cover himself up for later in case he got exposed? Maybe. Quite possibly.
4 likesThis video fixed my attention span
5 likesIt's sad this is the closest thing we have to mr breast response
1 likeSuch a great video soggy, just sad this is how I find out you are a priest main in HS
0 likesknew to not trust dogpack lmfao
3 likesTHE PLOT THICKENS
0 likesThe wages can't be this high, Pedo sympathizer 🤣🤣
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@@MrMarcusGD Are there any other second names I should be aware of?
0 likes@ OhHh sCary! 🥶
0 likes@@Stagpro99 you know what you’re a real special person king of the short bus
0 likes@@Stagpro991:04:20 also soggy said his name at beggining of the interview too
0 likes@@MrMarcusGD Where did you get the 2nd name?
1 like@@Stagpro99dustin harris
0 likes@@MrMarcusGD Dustin ___
1 like@@Stagpro99 at 1:04:22 he showed one of the employees names
1 likeI dont know about the others though but in my opinion soggy is way more trust worthy than dogpack
@ While I do agree on keeping people anonymous, it’s a little strange that if these people were planning on being anonymous, then CS should of at least gone the extra mile to have hid their faces and changed their voices. And considering that dogpack has tried to expose these people that they were “actors” then why is CS concealing this if he isn’t hiding their faces from the Internet. You must surely agree that the stakes would require this if CS wasn’t planning on keeping employees and other people anonymous.
1 like@@Stagpro99 he literally provided correct evidence to everything, also not showing names is kinda understandable dont you think?
2 likes@spiderdog2712 have watched the video, and I’d say that most of this has no proper cross checking and most of this stuff doesn’t have ground evidence. For example these “interviews” that soggy cereal brought up don’t have full names. Which makes it hard to find out if these people are actually real. Another thing to point out is that the two channels that SC has recommended have came out supporting me beast or have started their channel debunking dog packs video. TL:DR don’t open your mind to random things that other people come out with that have may/may not be supported by Mr Beast.
1 like@@Stagpro99looks like someone didnt even watch the video
1 like@@MrMarcusGD No dates for posts, random people with second names covered up, vague cross checking, even Mrbeast commenting on the video. Seems sketchy to me.
3 likeswatch the video first
3 likesHe literally shits on mrbeast lol are you stupid?
2 likesI dislike the style of dogpack's "exposures" and that's why I clicked on this video with hope of actual "Debunking". Sadly I got a guy who thinks he is in mrbeast's defense team. Why?
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@@grimvengeance7445 It is an actual debunking. The whole video is him addressing each claim one by one. The video is already timestamped in the description according to each claim. idk what more you want..
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0 likes3:46 delaware
11:11 warcrimes
24:26 cp allegations
16:24 illegal lottery 3
54:43 safety issue debunking etc
1:04:25 interviews
59:59 illegal lottery 2
1:23:50 illegal lottery 1
1:25:22 criticizing mrbeast
These are the most important ones
@@MrMarcusGD Could you give me time stamps? I may have missed the point
0 likeshe literally shat on mrbeast too, he was just debunking the false claims
5 likesHe literally shits on beast? How is disproving dogpack’s lies defending beast, are you dumb?
2 likesThe only thing that confuses me is that you were able to debunk most of Dawson's accusations, but MrBeasts PR team couldn't defend him properly even once.
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They first had to wait for the investigation by the legal firm.
0 likesI think it would matter, because everybody read Chucky's response and agreed that it was terrible and unprepared. If Chucky or anybody else from mrbeast made a response like this one from Soggy, DogPack would've been destroyed a while ago.
0 likesWould it matter? Everything they said at mrbeast got the “well of course you’d say that, you just want to defend yourself” response
3 likesThis is the same guy who revealed Airrack and was endorsed by dogpack404 himself. But this guy said no, the truth is the truth.
5 likesWhen I saw Dogpacks first video, I thought hmmm maybe there is something there, but second and third assured me that he's a clown and a manipulator, together with Rosana P. and Crybaby Jake... Mr. Beast may did some inappropriate things but far from that what they were trying to present... And if he did, they ruined the chance for someone to expose him properly.
2 likesyou guys left a lot out and acting like mr beast did nothing bad he still did bad stuff
6 likes-running illegal game shows by not having a standards and practice person on payroll
-still ran illegal lotteries the t shirts and using his feastables as a pay to win roulette scam for a lambo and gave people fake signed merch
-using he child audience to restack feastables for a chance at 5000 dollars
-being shady and lying on multiple videos
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Didnt watch the vid lol
1 likeWatch the video!! Mr Beast is innocent
0 likes@@MrMarcusGD how you think i came up with the list i watched both unlike most people who saw dogpacks 3 months ago and this one recently
0 likes@@JulieWooly-pn6tx no he didnt i came up with that list from watching him he never talks with the employees about if if mr beast has a standards and practice person on payroll he never talks about the feastable lotteries only the livestream lotteries and never talks about jimmy having his friends fake his signature while signing shirts and he told people to fix feastable displays for a chance to win 5000 which never was payed out
0 likes@@luukienquoc1251 never said he was just said he left a lot of things out he only talked about mr beast for about 2 mins and said he is deceptive thats it in a hour 30 mins the only bad thing he says is mr beast lies about how long his ads are when he left a lot out
0 likesWatch the video first
2 likesHe talked about all that except for the restacking feastables lol, maybe watch the video?
1 likeAlso standard and practices is for broadcast TV, not for youtube, they clearly proved to take safety seriously nonetheless
soggy cereal wasnt defending anyone here, he just show the truth. he didn’t say that because dogpack404 is a horrible person, that doesn’t disprove how bad mr beast is.
5 likesSOGGY MY GOAT
3 likesDid you interview Jimmy or his friends?
0 likesI was initially REALLY skeptical about why so many major channels that cover drama suddenly didn't cover the MrBeast stuff, and how, while a completely reasonable reason for penguinz0 to step away from doing drama stuff that he doesn't feel fun in covering, he decided to quit at the exact same time as so many others. I was thinking it was either because they were threatened by MrBeast with so much power that they couldn't speak against him, were also secretly in cahoots with him, or that the entire situation was so fuckin' messy that they simply couldn't cover it without getting more shit in their mouths and faces without ever being able to organise the entire story.
2 likesNow that I watch this video, it's very clear that there are so many stories pointing fingers, and unless I do my own research I don't even have a way of knowing how true THIS video is either. So I'm just guessing that the reason people don't cover the MrBeast stuff is because it's messy, and I hope that's the case.
It’s never going to end, is it? Just endless accusations without any repercussions.
2 likesThis the best video I saw in a while
2 likesfinally, i knew it
4 likesThis is another league above your previous work as well as the work of most creator's in this space.
1 likeThe only criticism I have after watching this on about 4 different streams and now coming back to the original is the cumnuggies bit.
It's hilariously ironic given the dumb shit he has said and he still doesn't understand bad framing or context despite this, but I think you should add some additional clear clarification around his discord gooning.
He didn't seek out or engage in that stuff, he was reporting it to mods as you show, but I think you should still have added further clarification lol.
Still, it is very very funny.
Also I don't think it's unreasonable to conclude that Jimmy was aware of Tyson's degeneracy and the evidence for this predates Dogpack sucking up all the oxygen from the conversation. The exact degree to which he knew as well as how culpable he is for anything involving Kris is still up for debate though imo.
59:46 Okay, I'm gonna have to stop the video and call you out for your lies and manipulation. That was clearly a pencil and not a crayon. I just don't know who to believe anymore.
0 likesYou made MorePegasus' deam come true. He'll make at least few trillion slop videos out of this 💀
6 likesThis video just getting 170k views in a day is an embodiment of how agreeing with the popular allegations and blindly hating Mr Beast is the norm. This was a very well though out and researched video with things to backup for it. I also found it weird that people were immediately jumping on the Dogpack404 bandwagon when the allegations came out , because they didnt have any substantiated evidence. Really hope this video and channel blows up .
4 likesThis situation is probably the most frustrating YouTube drama in a very long time, so much so that it’s honestly better to just not pay any bit of attention to anything related to MrBeast from now
0 likesAt this point, i should just assume everyone is a lying manipulative asshole on the internet.
0 likes13:47 - 14:11 is kinda ridiculous counterargument. If something is a war crime under the geneva convention, then if a non-military person tortures the same way an ordinary citizen during time of peace, it's by no means any better. There's no "joke" here, it was an extremely messed up (and illegal) thing to do.
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@@PabloWitkowicz He wasn't forced there - He had been working there and wanted to be in front of camera for once instead of behind the scenes (this is something Jake said himself in Dogpack's second video). He wasn't forced to take up the opportunity or stay there, hence why he got out after 10 days. He said he couldn't do it anymore, and they let him out. He still got paid a significant amount of money - and for someone who "Needed the money", he spent it pretty fast on [checks notes] STAND UP COMEDY????... instead of pressing matters like his student loan and placing some of it in savings?
0 likes@@PabloWitkowicz He still stayed willingly, whether it was for money or not isn't relevant since he still had the choice to leave.
0 likes@@j-smith00 I'm really curious how you'd act if you had $300k waved in front of your face, the argument "he wasn't forced to be there" isn't very strong when so much money is on the line for a person that needs the money.
0 likesthey can leave any time they want
0 likeshis argument was that the person wasnt forced to be in there and therefore it wasnt torture
1 likeI really love and appreciate the work you do and lengths that you go through to put the truth in neutral light. Amazing investigative work man. Keep the good stuff up.
1 likeThis is very interesting. I would like to see a full video of all of the real allegations from MrBeast as you can actually do research. It's sad that I trusted Dogpack for so long.
3 likesDogPack404 - Truth Not Found
0 likesMrBeast has a lot of money, ofc he'd hire someone to counter DogPack.
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You didn't watch the full video did you.
0 likesDefending mrbeast doesn’t give u any money, shitting on him and helping dogpaxk is how you get views and money, look at morepegasus
0 likesAirrack has a lot of money, ofc he’d hire soggy cereal to cancel Airrack.
1 likeDogpack himself didnt admit he lied he was Lying 😂😂😂😂😂😂
3 likesHop of the dick bro
i can't wait for the lawsuit
0 likesI love this❤
1 likeHAHAHA!!! This is pure gold! Dogshit404 is going to lose sleep. Inb4 I'm a mrbeast glazer or w/e the kids use these days for talking ill of dogshit404.
1 likeGOAT
1 likeYou look like Idubbbz and Onision baby.
0 likesGreat now the copy and paste cash grab drama channels will have something to talk about for generations
0 likesMr Beast is literally the Zodiac Killer, though. Don't you know? Who cares? Either way; Great. Cool. Solve climate change.
0 likesDogpack 404 meatriders 😭🙏
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@@hellboy9458 Brainwashed dogpack 404 fans 🤧
1 like@@sebyyyhd Soggy Doggy riders
0 likesMrBeast meat riders
1 likeSomething fishy is going on behind the scenes here, why does this video have so little views/like+comments, and how hasnt this video got 200k views in over a day when ik soggy's videos normally get more views then this at the release of videos. Anyway love ya soggy, love your videos and so glad to see an ACTUAL spiritual successor to content cop, instead of Dogpack. Well researched and explained as usual!
1 likeI mean As you can see the timeline when mrbeast started he did some mistakes cause of inexperience now there are way few mistakes than it used to be.
1 likewhen im in a misinformation spreading competition and my opponent is dogpack404:
0 likeswhat about the crypto stuff and squid games?
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@ but squid games?
0 likesWatch the video he talked about it.
1 likeI'd like a redux of your slop video, or at least a re-upload.
0 likesNever trust anyone who has ever worked for mr beast, especially someone who was fired by him
4 likespyrocinical's wallet is as fat as a blue whale thanks to this man
0 likes"I worked for DogPack404, he's a fraud."
1 likeI can smell Pegasus and west jett from a mile away 😭
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0 likesBro had to change the title and thumbnail cuz dogpack sent him a cease and desist 😭
1 likeyow soggy stood up brosss
0 likesAmazing video, now Mr.Beast has to respond to his crypto allegations and stop talking to Logan Paul.
1 likeI'll forgive him once he does these things
hoodie looks like an absolute cp enjoyer
0 likesWhy they call you soggy cereal? does your cereal always end up soggy because you're far too busy dropping THE TRUTH? lol
0 likesI cant believe I believed dogpack so blindly. I still personally dislike jimmy but Im glad the REAl truth came out
2 likesThe slop is neverending.
1 likegreat vid
1 likeI will stop talking crap about him now :)
2 likesbros gonna blow up after this one man i love your content always have i think i started at AIRRACK also I wanted to mention Airack/MB prank thing i bought a sweater not only did it come like a year late i frogot about it but it was the WORST feeling sweater ever and the "image" looked like it was one big sticker like a sweat shop made it
1 likeI don't want to say that I knew something was up because like many, I blindly believed a lot of what Dogpack was saying, but because of the sheer amount of accusations being thrown around, and how messy he made everything, it made it really hard to fact check everything that he said, especially since he had so many people vouch for him that I thought I could trust (Jake, Oompa and Rosanna). Even this video is very convoluted so I think he did it on purpose to try and obscure people from going out and doing their own research.
1 likeBut what about the lawsuit by the people who got treated badly during the BestGames?
1 likeThose too are fake?
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@@drsamquantum Oh okay.
0 likesWish someone did fact cheak this too
The video is only about debunking Dogpack's "Allegations".
0 likesI was always a bit of a skeptic. Maybe ill also be for this one until i finish the video.
1 likeI think Soggy Cereal is my favorite youtuber now
1 like3:08 HAWK TAUH mentioned YESSIR 😭😭✌🏾
0 likesi like my cereal soggy bruh
2 likes3:07 HAWK TUAH
0 likesIdubbz is young again
0 likesu adress like 1 part of each allegation, e.g lottery but you leave out the timing thing/fake signatures
1 likemack mansion but you dont adress the rigging etc..
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He did tho watch the video
1 like23:56 ITS JUST MOREPEGASUS 😭😭😭😭
1 likeDon't worry people after 2 3 months Soggy will get exposed too.
4 likesAnd everyone will say "i knew all along he was in the wrong. Totally had the bad vibe"
wait, was this the investigation that mrbeast conducted?
0 likesmrbeast and dogpack are bad, i’m the only good guy
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Everyone’s bad.
4 likesCan't wait for the truth about Soggy Cereal
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Interesting insightful comment you have made here- no- revolutionary. You should be given a noble piece prize for this. This has opened my eyes to every problem I’ve ever had in my life- the way that it’s worded is the best thing my eyes have ever marveled on. Thank you for writing this absolutely brilliant comment. I will always remember this in my life and be sure to frame it on my wall for extra motivation.
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0 likes5:22 but didn't Jack the Viking say that he was his brother and Jimmy knew about his situation from the beginning?
1 likenice
3 likesWe got Mrbeast downfall and his recovery before gta 6
5 likesThis is a good balance of bias. It’s not overly biased towards Dogpack or MrBeast
2 likesTLDR: You are a breath of forested mountainy Fresh Air.
0 likesYou restore my faith that integrity is not all lost in this fucking shit-show joke of a content saturated nonseical gobbilty gooq land of the low IQ, low attention span, low, or rather nonexistent critical thought----mostly bot filled---internet , and especially Tube of the You that used to be genuinely cool shit. Now it's just beastification, livestream nonsense, non creative people just watching other people who are in fact creative, and critiquing or even worse, REACTING to their fucking content as if their opinion was the hand of midas. (especially if you happened to be an attractive phe-male)
Much MUCH love .
I thought this was dogpacks video I was so confused about the comment
1 likeI was one of the very few people that stuck by mrbeast side. There was just something off about dogpack.
3 likesI was confused at first because when I watched the video Dawson came off as a disgruntled employee like you said but when I tried to find anyone who said that I found only one thing and that person got hate now the tables are turning and I just believed him after because I didn’t know what else to do Innever subscribed I did watch all the videos and I still am not supporting Mr Beast at all anymore
0 likesAs many people have said, everything is not black and white. Both can be bad people.
0 likesI've started to see people now saying "oh mrbeast is a victim, he just did nice things and he gets punished for it" a few lies doesn't change the situation that he did awful things, that he is an enabler, etc
Pewdiepie is a piece of shit. Mr. beast help him out😂 (t-series v. pewds)
0 likesSo instead of Mrbeast addressing the allegations and using receipts and other forms of evidence to prove his innocence;
0 likesHe sent his slave employees and zombie fans to defend him like he’s a pimp, and they are his whores.
Nice.
Mr Beast praised that video in the comments. So Soggy Cereal is officially a controlled opp now
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soggy cereal cancelled his friend airrack wdym. and even in the video he said lunchly sucks why would mrbeast pay someone to say that? you’re thinking 1 sided.
0 likes0:38 yeah I mean, on of mr.beast's manager is probably the person I would the least believe.
1 likeSo this whole video is basically just "trust me bro" with an infuriating narration
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Stop. And watch the video.
0 likesgoated cereal strikes again
1 likeThe peak "leave the billionare alone" vibe is just cringe, damn
4 likes41:10 Funny enough I actually WON one of those phones (I just had my email in my profile) and it got delivered WITH PROOF
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@@5head11 do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it do it
0 likes@@5head11 DO IT, it could be huge lead
0 likes@SandraFlare I could but I don't think there's much point unless big sources actually ask 😮💨🤷♂️
0 likesThen upload it
1 likeThese 2 white guys fighting over another white guy is pretty interesting
0 likesAbout time, I felt like people been trying so hard to milk the shit out of this
1 likeOn the internet, there is nobody you can trust.
1 likeW video everyone needs to see this
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@@cerealhit555 what horrible stuff has mr beast done that cereal says isn't bad? Dogpack404 was a secular religion everyone on the internet worshipped and created a hate train on Mr beast, who was innocent of 99.999% of the claims dogpack said. Dogpack should be sued for defamation and be deplatformed for life.
5 likesWhat's W about it? He said nothing that adds to previous drama, essentially says horrible stuff isn't that bad and talks like he's been on tiktok for a decade in a row.
1 likeDo you people just say W about anything now?
Pegasus is shocked now
2 likesThe REAL Truth About MrBeast Accusers. Thats the correct title you muppet. And while you at it - with your high horse, please cover all of the other mrbeast allegations as well. im sure you would do a better job than DogPack404. Or are you just the same as DogPack404, alleging its "The REAL Truth" while not cover every single one of his allegations.
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@@hellboy9458 exactly
0 likesThere are thousands of other channels covering MrBeast, but how many are covering Dogpack? Never heard of the Pegasus effect?
1 likeNot even within the first 10 minutes, there’s inconsistencies how can we prove that the guy on the call isn’t just making up a lie you have given virtually no proof that this guy is who he says he is other than trust me, bro.
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Garrett has literally been in multiple old mrbeast videos was an og member of the crew and also has his own wiki on the mrbeast fandom.....
0 likesNot only that but your misconstruing with the guy said he said he was on a call with a work friend dog packed didn’t work at the company at this time so someone else must’ve given the evidence to dog pack or the stories just a whole heap of bull
1 likeI was NOT expecting that intro with Otis Mcdonald LMAOOOO
0 likesThe whole video is a disgusting attempt to whithewash Mr Beast which is insane to me after what he's been exposed to. It looks like if you have enough money you will always have meat riders no matter what
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@@aleksandrmaksimov2818 What?
0 likesA clown 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@aleksandrmaksimov2818 dogpack Biggest fan 😒😒😒🤡...
0 likes@@luukienquoc1251 Even Mr Beast disagrees with you in his comment, bro
0 likes@ didn’t you get cooked about 10 times quit
0 likesYou 5 year old
Oh look. Dogpack's biggest defender has finally arrived and is unsurprisingly refusing to accept that Dogpack is a liar.
1 likedude nobody is defending mrbeast. Soggy Cereal doesn’t like mrbeast. You can just watch at the end he criticizes mrbeast you don’t have the attention span bruh.
1 like@@aleksandrmaksimov2818 intentionally dense, got it
1 likeI did watch it and unlike you I immediately saw it was BS
1 like@@aleksandrmaksimov2818 ok do you didn’t watch the video or you’re just being intentionally dense, got it
2 likes@@aleksandrmaksimov2818 pretty sure white washing is an race thing
1 like@@Buckleyedo I don't see any "blatant lies and manipulation by Dogpack404". He could have handled the information better ,yes, but it's not manipulative because main points stays the same even if an approved glazer Soggy tries to perform an attack on the character like saying that Vicking is a bad guy (I'm not sure he is not but it doesn't matter. The point is that he confirmed that Jimmy knew that Delaware is an RSO)
2 likes@@aleksandrmaksimov2818Also dogpack 404 Meat rider 😒
2 likes@@aleksandrmaksimov2818the whole point is not to “downplay the wrongdoings of Mr. Beast” it’s to show the blatant lies and manipulation by Dogpack404. Did you even watch the video before commenting?
5 likes@@aleksandrmaksimov2818 Keep yapping I'm sure that's going to help you 😒😒
0 likes@@ValveFanTygo Elaborate
3 likesWrong word usage
0 likes@@jonathanjohnson4594 Bro, the whole point of this video is to downplay of all wrongdoings of Mr Beast which is the definition of whitewashing. Considering that for the past months we found out that Mr Beast had had a groomer Ava Tyson, a RSA Delaware, faked charity videos, created a toxic work culture, had a lawsuit against him and been involved in unethical crypto manipulations we have enough evidence to state that Mr Beast is a piece of shit as a person. Everybody who can't see anything wrong with him just doesn't have the moral compass
4 likesDo you know what whitewashing is I don't think you do.
2 likesI have a different opinions on this whole thing that is just because you have money people will hate you.
HOLY CRAP unknown slayer you are an unknown slayer bro
0 likesFeel like Mrbeasts team gave soggy all the information for this video how did he get so much access too employees and people that have been in challenges
5 likesMorePegasus smells the money. 10 more MrBeast videos incoming.
2 likesThe knockoff Content Cop intro gave me an overwhelming sense of nostalgia that I didn't know could be elicited from several year old internet beef
0 likesI ain't watching all that and I ain't caught up with the drama either, but shoutout to the Techno hoodie
0 likesthis is what i’m gonna sleep to today😂😂
1 likeHaven't seen this yet, but Hoodie's got the Techno bling, Technoblade Never Dies!!! 🕊👑
1 liketbh Dogpack being a complete yandere for MrBeast isn't actually that surprising
0 likesYOU THE GOAT!!!!
1 likeI knew it
1 likeMy hate for mr beast wanted me to hate you and this video but im happy to say i can crank that anger toward dogpack and his shadiness instead. Solid video. I still do hate mr beast tho 🤗
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I say this sincerely: Seek professional help.
0 likeslogical human being w
0 likesreality tv, finally real
0 likesIm just glad this is finally over, thank you man for clearing everything. I knew Dogpack was a little off and that some of the allegations might've been false and that Jimmy made mistakes like every person would.
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Nah dudes, this will go on until it’s 2025. I can feel it in my balls
0 likesThank you for your service and bringing actual evidence to the situation!!
1 likeDogpack is the kind of guy who can make a pickpocket look like a war criminal
4 likesSo it would seem dog pack really had us all fooled during that sensitive time of the ava kris crap. Interesting how deep this is getting when I really thought this was gonna be a one and done it is actually becoming a whole damn saga
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Who is "we"? Not all of us found Jimmy guilty until proven innocent. Some of us were actually reserving judgment until both sides of the story had come out. You know, like you would want people to do for you if someone was spreading lies about you and trying to ruin your life?
0 likesthis is great entertainment i dont even care about the drama anymore
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0 likesmr beast getting exposed and then his exposer getting exposed before gta6 💀💀💀💀💀
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0 likesJust wanted to thank you for making this video and doing your research. Hopefully the truth comes out 🙏
2 likes24:08
0 likesInteresting 🤔🧐
1 likeNaw
1 likeI didn't even care about this drama that much but this is impressively thorough. Well done.
1 like1:23:50 "Debunking" the illegal lotteries at the start of the video and in the very end saying that the first lottery was in fact illegal is very hypocritical by the way.
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@@theotherguyyyyI agree, he should have started with the first lottery before he went on to the other two
0 likes@@QuickIguana my comment was deleted for some reason but I will reply again. Go to 15:09 of the video and he critisiced this guy for the same thing he did. I wrote a very detailed comment but it was deleted I am not doing that again.
1 like@@theotherguyyyy You literally got my point
1 like@@BenLu543Learn how to spell.
1 like15:09 He critisiced that guy for not mentioning that the clip he played was AI BEFORE he played it and then went ahead and put at the very end of the video proof that MrBeast did infact conduct illegal lotteries instead of including it when he first talked about the illegal lotteries at 16:00. Even if he later discovered proof that the very first lottery was illegal he could have easily edited the video and mention it sooner. Hypocrite. @hellboy9458 @@QuickIguana
1 likeLearn the word hypothetical
2 likesHe did debunk two illegal lotteries but claimed one is true. How is that hypocritical? He wasn’t debunking illegal lotteries in general; he didn’t claim that all illegal lotteries are false. Where exactly is the hypocrisy in this?
4 likesThat's not what being hypocritical means.
9 likesThere were 3 illegal lottery allegations, he completely debunked the most recent 2 and when visiting the original, found that it was 100% true.
I’m just gonna say that your Content Cop opening scene impression was CHEFS KISS 🙌🏼
0 likesDamned if he addresses it, damned it he doesn't
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Everyone is just determined to hate Mr Beast now. People believe he's a bad guy, and people don't like to have their beliefs challenged, so they'll just keep hating Jimmy even if it turns out he was 100% innocent on all accounts, because, for many people, accepting they were wrong about someone and had allowed themselves to be fooled would just be too painful of a thought. They'll prefer to double down on a wrong opinion, even in the face of overwhelming contradictory evidence, than go through the pain and discomfort of changing their mind and admitting they were wrong.
1 likeI have mixed opinions. Firstly, I'm confused why everyone assumed dogpack to be a savior. Second, for a lot of the disproven claims you did, he claimed were allegations. He said this in multiple videos. Getting information wrong is not rare. I think it's important to stay in touch with information, but I don't understand the expectations set. Mr. Beast did indeed do illegal gambling--just differently lol. I am for the downfall of Mr. Beast if it includes dogpack or not. You can have your opinions, and I will not deny the fact he made mistakes, though Mr. Beast is a rich man taking advantage of what they think is doing good. Not only is most of it genuinely harmful, but it's put up for show. I think looking into the points is good, but I would love to hear from him as well. I'm sure he will reply, if not I will be disappointed. He did a good thing either way.
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I don’t really care if you disagree or not. Have your freedom.
0 likes@@Queef_Storm Yeah because that’s totally what i’m talking about.
0 likes@@colewilliamson5742 Ive been homeless multiple times. I’m going to put this out there before I talk about his “oh so great” acts. First of all, team trees and team seas did about little to nothing. I believe team seas or whatever it was called also invested in NFTS. Jimmy personally gambled illegally (and admitted this) when he was underage using cryptocurrency. There are also clips of him using illegal gambling websites in America. I had a grudge against Mr. Beast because a lot of the philanthropy he claims to do is not truly charity. The donations he makes, alongside other very rich individuals, is for tax write offs. Side note, he claimed multiple times that the next individual would get a specific item or money and they did not receive it. I think we’re forgetting a lot of the claims DogPack made that were proven with literal footage. Also, DogPack did. A lot of them were not just alleged because of the fact he had evidence for his claim. He admitted to being wrong on multiple alleged situations because they were alleged. The reason I didn’t like Mr. Beast before this is because there were a lot of issues with his actions involving “giving away” stuff. It’s not really giving it away. He manipulated the audience using titles, which you can argue is just clickbait but are we seriously still using this excuse? Will I say he hasn’t done some good? No. Will I say that just because he has done good that mean we can’t criticize him? No. Jimmy isn’t great as a boss and doesn’t understand how to create a safe work environment. He is irresponsible with money, and times he bought out stores was a net negative for the employees. My logic isn’t stupid. I’m not naive enough to think some rich man is doing everything out of the greatness of his heart. Capitalism has never worked that way.
0 likes@@Off1cerearl what an interesting argument. him being involved with others doesn’t mean it’s not bad? also, they didn’t have a big firm like that. they used a personal firm, which even using it while it’s biased due to the fact it’s just Jimmy investigating himself, they still found that there was mistreatment in his company. His CEO was indeed confirmed to be a terrible guy and they’re now replacing him because it was found out. He did illegal gambling on certain websites involving cryptocurrency. Also, yes, saying allegedly in front of it is not misinformation, the term is literally used in the sense that we don’t know if it’s true or not.
0 likesif there was other gambaling the investigation from the biggest firm in america which if they are caught lying will be shut down would of said it, but everything was fine and all allegations were denied from including alleged employes and i didnt know spreading misinfo that actualy ruined peoples lives were fine if you say alleged and can you provide examples of mrbeast harming someone or gambling that didnt have logan paul, ksi or amazon in it?
0 likesI love how you purposely ignored the evidence which proved Mr. beast innocent in a lot of these "illegal" gambling" just so that you can keep pushing your narrative. Mr. beast has done a lot of good things, and he only got rich fairly recently, and was still learning the world of business. Dogpack404 used the Ava Tyson situation to spread false lies with faked evidence about Mr. beast for money and clout, glad to see the truth finally getting out.
0 likesOkay, here’s my response to your comment then.
2 likes1: I’m also confused about that tbh. I’m not sure why people took the unbiased facts and evidence from a disgruntled, obsessed employee who was fired. He should NEVER have been trusted.
2: Dogpack also DIDN’T mention that a lot of these claims were allegations. He mentioned directly that some were, and didn’t mention directly for a good amount of them, as shown in the video. The expectations are basically to address whether or not they’re allegations with your own words, not leaving it to viewer interpretation like what could be shown.
3: I’d like for you to tell me what Mrbeast did to make these lotteries “illegal.” He made them up to chance, and pulled from random people, not to mention that you didn’t even need to pay to get in technically.
4: This claim disproved your entire argument here. “I’m for the downfall of Mrbeast if it includes dogpack or not.” That directly claims that you yourself ALREADY had a grudge against Mrbeast before the drama, similar to dogpack. If I interpreted that wrong, then please correct me. And that supports my claims about the expectations. You didn’t directly address that, so I interpreted it how I wanted to.
5: He’s filming the good deeds to get more money, to do MORE good deeds. He’s opened food pantries, built wells, paid for eye surgery, paid for hearing aids, saved dogs from shelters, and has given out MILLIONS to people. If that’s taking advantage of what people think is good, then the rock is taking advantage of what people think is good by helping complete hundreds of Make-A-Wish wishes publicly. You see how stupid that logic is?
Summary: I agree with your claims that dogpack shouldn’t of been trusted in the first place, but due to your seemingly previous grudge to Mrbeast before the drama, and odd, non-specific claims, I just can’t agree with your comment.
(If you want to reply to do this, please do, as I do have a couple things you said that I’m not sure what you meant on. For example, the “all down for the downfall of Mrbeast,” or “taking advantage of what they think is doing good”).
Yeah bro it was truly despicable when he saved the lives of those 100 dogs and then used the money to do even more charity work while he sleeps in his office
5 likesThat is a very good way to look at it 👍
5 likes29:48 lmfaooooo funniest report ive ever seen
0 likesFirst time I'm watching this channel and I know he's a PewDiePie fan. I love it
0 likesImagine joining a company and getting yourself fired in less than 3 weeks lmao. Dogpack truly is a 🤡
6 likesThis is prove that people will hate one success. They look for ppl to hate on. The dog pack video got millions within a day. This video disproving this one has only 100k 😂
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Guy needs to change the thumbnail and title pronto. This looks like just a regular Mr Beast slop video and it's not working
0 likesSome people are just biased after 10–15 minutes of watching and came to the conclusion that Soggy is just a glazer/dckrider. It's kind of hypocritical when they have no problem watching 2+ hours of Dogpack videos. There are plenty of those in the comments if you're noticed.
3 likesOh look the guy who called others for making slop, makes slop, how surprising.
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I would respect it more of you were just honest and said "I'm butthurt about finding out that I was wrong"
0 likes@@KatinexPL it still isn't slop, this brings new information and research to the table. While slop just repeats information that has been known.
0 likes@@QuickIguana Got it so its a video hating on dogpack, i don't love the guy, but its just slop for MrBeast glazers rather than haters, just another bad side of the coin. The entire video is focused on debunking of dawson rather than the claims.
0 likesThis is more akin to journalism than slop. He's got more integrity in this video than Dawson could dream of.
2 likes@@KBvidss We did, but this guy was friends with dogpack until he got big, made a video, deleted it cause dogpack responded to it. Soggy also accuses dogpack of faking 'real mrbeast employees' while he does the same with potentially no evidence.He also said at 42:32 that you get milions of views of siding against mrbeast, he also claimed that in his last deleted video and whined about how WestJett, MorePegasus and Dogpack404 got more popular than him for doing nothing. This guy is peak jealousy, which is a shame cause i liked his old videos.
0 likesIdk if we watched the same video, but this video has more effort put into it than any slop video I've seen ever, on top of any video I've seen this year in terms of attention to detail and research
8 likesWait so is Mrbeast bad should i continue to not watch his videos I'm only a 16 minutes into the video
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Mrbeast did nothing wrong. People are just jealous and trying to make money by slandering him. Evil
0 likes@@DanielTurner69-v7q Just admit that you crucified Mr Beast based on lies and don't care what the evidence is, you just can't concede that you allowed yourself to be so easily fooled and would rather double down on a wrong opinion then put your ego through the pain of accepting you made a mistake and changing your mind. There's not a single accusation against Mr Beast that has definitive proof and nearly all of them have now been debunked.
0 likesWhat we can confirm is that Mrbeast is not a good person AT ALL don’t watch Mrbeast we all agree on that including soggy cereal
1 likeHonestly it’s really sad Soggy had to step up for this shit instead of directly Mr. Beast that had the facts. But really thanks for this amazing journalism Soggy
4 likesThe Dani and FriendlyJordies energy is strong with this one
1 like(Also W video. Good to have a video resource that breaks down DogPack's conflict of interest and/or dishonesty. A lot of people come in to this with a one-sided retelling. People like you and nicholasdeorio are out-spoken in regards to the full story, but videos like this shed light on that untold half of the story. Good stuff)
When my parents aren’t home I dig a hole outside my house to be a tomato
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@@Queef_Storm I like tomato’s
0 likesthe fact this isn't top comment just proves that youtube is suppressing information around Mr Beast
0 likesI'll admit it I ate this crap up I'm pretty glad this guy made the video because otherwise I might never know this was false
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You're one of the few people in this comments section who is able to admit to their mistake. Respect.
0 likesI think all three people involved aren't really great people
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@@cnoe-x9dwhen was this supposed video uploaded illegally use the wayback machine to check
0 likes@@AaronSmith-rm9klsoggy backstabbed friends for clout. He got so much backlash that he privated or deleted the video. Also in the vid he comes of as either jealous or mad. Lastly he doesn’t really disprove all the stuff he says he disproves.
0 likesSoggy is great tf you talking about
0 likesIncluding soggy?
2 likesthe power vacuum dogpack created is so fucking gigantic everything is being sucked down into it its crazy man
1 like35:13 This wink in particular though has got to be added in post. The scene matches PERFECTLY with another scene where he just blinked normally. But it's been a while since I looked into it.
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Wow dude, even when the guy himself is telling you that it wasn't added in post, you're still like "nah, I know the facts" (specifically facts I got from a man who has been proven to lie constantly)
0 likesThe DogPack404 situation just got worse | It's Over
2 likesso mr beast is good and the hate for him was nothing great lesson for the internet if thats true
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@@DanielTurner69-v7q he still has sum good in his heart just because many people are saying he is bad doesnt really mean anything
0 likes@@jonathanjohnson4594 And we still haven't heard Jimmy's side of the story, and even Coffeezilla said that he can't be sure if Jimmy is guilty or just the people around him. Are we going to find him guilty until proven innocent again? People have learned nothing from this drama.
1 likeMrBeast is definitely not a good person at 53:20 soggy cereal forgets to mention that dogpack said that the video was sped up and the guy touches the laser I don’t think soggy cereal truly debunked the MrBeast allegations
1 likeI mean the crypto situation is still going if you care about that but all crypto is a scam so it evens out
2 likesThe Soggy Cereal/DogPack404 drama is insane
0 likesoh my god youre such a cuck chair enthusiast
2 likeshe said mr beast essentially forced him and your response is he said alleged? like no shit thats the most basic legal thing you should do when up against a super rich person who can sue you to the ground and hide evidence easily
other people corroborated how awful the story was and even mr beast himself tried to manage the backlash while saying nothing on it just silently trying to pay him more money behind the scenes
what a joke video trying to ride off jimbos dick
and the delaware part, delaware told jimmy before getting hired that he was a registered sex offender and explained why, his own brother corroborated so
you can say its a dumb mistake but when actual children are the centerpoint playing it down like this is so irresponsible
and now hes been getting caught up in making millions off of illegal market manipulation he tried to distance himself from, youre on the cuck chair for this guy and your wife doesnt even like his dick but she still thinks its better than urs :/// grow a sack n stop playing lapdog for views
also he uses the term alleged a lot while describing that and sending and knowingly allowing assumed childrens nudes is still illegal and weird. and your response is to say wow he searched up to confirm if it was cp thats illegal!! thats so fucking insane what a joke like no shit its illegal but no fucking jury would ever find someone guilty of it in that situation use some fkn common sense
n then saying oh if i had a friend who ranted abt pedos sometimes i wld think them calling themselves a sexual predator is a funny joke n wouldnt like notice it as weird for them to be sending what they think is cp, you dance around so much here
the anime higehiro is much more controversial in japan because it depicts a literal crime of kidnapping a minor n they never mention or deal with any of the circumstances around the fact that he is legally kidnapping her and make it into some cutesy heartwarming story when it shld be handled way more responsibly but we also see no indication that they even knew any of this shit abt the anime being wholesome or not its a moot point to bring up since you cant prove in any way they somehow knew its wholesome esp after all the other super obvious creepy moments
and this isnt to say dogpack clearly hasnt lied about some things or exaggerated but essentially any large heavily damning claim that there is evidence behind you just dance around with some ideas with no concrete actual proof of, for example, him knowing avas behaviour wasnt weird when all we've seen is mr beast know exactly that and even have art from the loli cp artist in his own home too, you are way too on his dick
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@@Queef_Storm you seem pretty upset i called someone other than you a dumbass, are you in the market for a cuck chair i think this guy prolly has a good supplier
0 likesdry those tears
0 likesPerson 1: MrBeast is a greedy scumbag and is actively working to poison you’re children’s minds.
12 likesPerson 2: That makes sense! I know something was up with that guy. Seemed way too good to be true.
Person 3: erm, chud. I think you mean *your!
Person 2: man I always knew person 1 was a fraud. So glad Jimmy is innocent.
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Lol you literally defend Jimmy in the comment section you troon.
0 likesTwitter/X and Reddit, in a nutshell: two peas in a pod. A sad-man's platform.
0 likesBest intro ever
0 likesYoutube Drama Channel’s kids are thankful for the food 🙏
0 likesBut even then 27:48 I forgot the messaging app but the messaging app they use doesn't allow new users to see past events
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Like you know if someone says something when the group is created you know like hello when you join the group all those message that were in before your joined will not be there@@johncaze757
0 likesWhat do you mean?
0 likesW Soggy Cereal
10 likesL DogPack404
L Jake Weddle
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GEG inb4 Jake weddle damage controls
1 likeY'all are Soo annoying time to stop you and dogpack misinformation first of all production yacht is a joke second even if Jake weddle or whatever lie about his friend saying it's a war crime if mrbeast actually did it it would still be a crime I feel like you are just yapping about nothing third of all some of Mr beast videos are definitely rigged for content and the put was fake lol definitely also here is some really bad stuff he didnt debunk
0 likes-mrbeast blew up a boat and left scraps instead of cleaning it up
-mrbeast game
-mrbeast cleaning up the ocean with coke when coke made like most Garbage so whoever donated didn't do anything 😂😂
In the 100 well video mrbeast use the same well like 4 times
-mrbeast also did fake like 2/3 of the lotteries
-mrbeast group got leaked with him with the kids 😊
-thinking mrbeast don't use child labour for his chocolate is just glazing
-mrbeast faked the chocolate review video or his team
-end result is just this video is slop glazing meat riding absolutely going ham on mrbeast up down side run doggy style like mrbeast is not inviting you lil bro 😂😂😂😂
People always be defending famous people no matter what they do I am not surprised plus why do people always take the persons word like if am working for mrbeast I ain't snitching and am using the fact I didn't snitch for a pay raise like the fu
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@@Hungryymeloncan you please use proper punctuation. This is impossible to read.
0 likes@@jonathanjohnson4594 am talking about the other leaks where Chris said he is a sex offender thingy why you defending the guy Soo bad like holy crap the Internet will never learn they will keep bullying other people away from telling the truth and let horrible people keep walking among us like sometimes I wish I could like bring some truth to humanity
0 likes@@jonathanjohnson4594 news just in bad people do kind stuff to keep a good image who would've f*ckin thought I guess p Diddy is a nice person for all those charity donations of his
0 likes@@jonathanjohnson4594 they said they can handle it and left waste also why all mrbeast fanboys say how much have you donated to charity zero dollar cause I don't have 100 million I could blow on a challenge 🤣🤣🤣
0 likes@@jonathanjohnson4594 I would dug a lot more wells if I had a 100 million dollar I would do a lot more stuff if I had a 100 million how about you give me 100 million and I'll show you how much I can build plus I used 4 wells but he could have fake more because he also show the same picture more than 4 times for different wells Soo thank you
0 likesholy sh t you're a narcissist. One video proving you were wrong and you go into complete meltdown. Have a good cry about it and then go take a long sip of the yummy liquid mummy keeps under the kitchen sink.
0 likesThe park that he blew up the boat at said they were fine with what they left. (so there was some but they could handle it they said)
0 likesMr. Beast bar doesn't use child labor he took it out so he could say he doesn't use any malpractice for his labor don't matter age
0 likes1/3 of the lottery were a scam and that law doesn't apply to YouTube so that is also false
0 likes96 wells are close enough to a hundred how many wells have you dug?
0 likesThe group chat with the kids in it is false she was 18 at the time of the photo
0 likes@@hellboy9458 good point but I really do not care it's like 1:37 at night
0 likes@@QuickIguana how much you betting?
0 likesI'm wondering why is Jake Weddle's 'voluntary prison challenge,' which includes sleep deprivation, being considered a war crime? He could have literally refused and left the challenge if he felt mentally weak. In summary, sleep deprivation in this non-conflict setting would not meet the criteria for a war crime.
0 likesFor example, if I took the challenge of surviving 50 hours in Guantanamo Bay prison and came out with something worse than sleep deprivation, would I have any right to sue MrBeast for committing a war crime, like Jake Weddle?
I'd bet so much money that you're not old enough to be on this site
1 like@@HunterJohnEntertainment the production yacht is a joke by dogpack clearly mrbeast wasn't on the raft Soo he was somewhere else Soo he said production yacht not that hard to understand
0 likesDog pack is the only one with the clear misinformation. We are done with you losers
3 likesDude watch the full video; he literally debunks the production yacht - this videos against dogpack404
3 likesMy first time here, who else came here from stucky?
1 likeThe way Dawson looks at the crew (or whoever is behind the cameras) with a smug smile of his face and says "well, I think the CP was the worst part", or whatever it was, in Rosana's video has the same energy of celebrities on talk shows when they say some jokey thing and then look at the audience like "amirite ladies?". Like it just seems very obvious that he was lapping up the attention and being seen like a hero vigilante doing a press tour.
2 likes0:58 Is 2016 all over again! Content Cop rises
0 likes35:50 Cute dog ❤🐶
0 likesEnjoy that beast 💰 ya sellout
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Boohoo mf you're going to be wrong about people sometimes, grow up and get used to it
1 likeSo he made more points then what im about to cover but towards the end of dog's 2nd video he clarified that it wouldn't be an actual War crime because he wasnt a prisoner and still you should be doing full backround checks on anyone your planing on hiring but did soggy intentionally leave out the clip were dogpack mentioned how it wouldn't be a war crime because he wasn't actually held prisoner
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I had a seizure reading that/jk but I hope Soggy sees this. Might be honest mistake?
0 likesMan that was a jumbled mess
0 likesI feel really bad that I actually believed some of this.
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If only more people were like you and could admit to their mistakes. Most of these comments are DogPack meatriders
0 likesReminds me that a court of law exists for a reason and online cancelations are to never be trusted.
1 likeAlso reminds me that no good deed goes unpunished. Mr beast is basically Jesus lol.
I guess the saying "It takes one to know one" is true 🤔🤔
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So is soggy cereal one too? 🤔🤔
2 likesain’t no way mr.beast bought bro 💀💀
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Have a good cry about it and then get an early bedtime. You'll feel better in the morning.
2 likesNice to know o was right all along.
0 likesWest jet is weird, because his reply was very narccistic.
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The guy is a hypocrite; he even refused to do research because it's for nerds, or he claims he doesn't have time to read all the documents, so he just cherry-picks and takes things out of context.
1 likeJust because this came out about Dogpack, doesn't mean that all the disgusting things Mr Beast and his company did are excused. Mr Beast and his company are still disgusting and should be investigated by real authorities. At the end of the day Mr Beast is a greedy rich guy, as they all are, who commits crypto frauds and is not altruistic nor charitable whatsoever.
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@ DogPack meat rider
0 likes@@Queef_Stormto say 99% was wrong is being very disingenuous. He only debunked two of the illegal lotteries, still hired the rso, is being sued for beast games, the crypto scams, etc…
0 likesYou are just jealous. He is a good person.
0 likes@@Queef_Storm Witch hunt in a nutshell.
1 like99% of accusations were lies and the remaining 1% we still haven't heard Jimmy's side of the story for. It's like you've learned nothing.
2 likesWe good lil bro
0 likesMore Pegasus will be feed well these coming days
5 likescool
1 likeGood movie! Gives thumbs up
1 likeDogpack404 may not be the best person but that still doesn't make Mr.Beast a saint he will end up getting away with everything
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DogPack meatrider spotted
0 likes@@arielperez3613 2.5/36? technacaully 3 flat out of 36 cuz coffee did a video on mr beast's crypto stuff and found it legally grey at its most clear.
1 like@@Quintyndowif he keeps making mistakes then it’s a pattern
3 likesIdk about crypto
3 likesBut other claims were all false
Humans can make some mistakes
you should make a video on morepegusas
5 likesThe "no doesnt me no" bit si still wrong in my opinion, or tone deaf at least, no matter that a woman wrote it or that a woman does not see anything bad with it. It's obvious they mean it in a "sales tactic" way, and it still sounds very much out of touch.
4 likesThe plot thickens...
2 likesFun fact: DogPack404 is the first channel ive ever unsubscribed from and ive been watching youtube videos for over 3 years
3 likesclassic intro 🤣
0 likesi feel like ive been chewed and spat out just for believing anyone
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Are you new to the internet? False allegations happen all the time
0 likesmorepegasus is foaming in the mouth rn
4 likesso 1$ lawyer (alikoca) was right?
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I guess
0 likesDogpack404 lost 5,000 subscribers from this video..... yikes
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It's been 2 months, and he didn't believer the promise of releasing a part 3 video. Of course, he's losing subscribers; he's losing the hype.
0 likesIf there was a award show for youtube videos this video wins V.O.T.D Video of the year, hands down this is really great! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
4 likesOompa needs to get on this video asap
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Oompa made one video very lightly defending Mr Beast on just a few small points when the drama started, got slightly more dislikes than usual, and immediately deleted the video and brought DogPack on and apologised profusely to him and let him say whatever he wanted with zero pushback on any of it. There's no way Oompa would risk flip flopping in front of his audience again.
0 likesAlso, you guys need to watch the whole video before commenting because dog pack at this point is ten times worse then mr beast lol
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@@agentwesker5237 Even Coffeezilla said he can't be sure Jimmy did anything wrong because it could have been the people around him. Just say you love the taste of DogPack's meat and don't want to have to let go
0 likes@@agentwesker5237 worst part is that mrbeast glazers like AliKoca will eat this shit up and say "hah told you so, I'm right all along"
0 likes@agentwesker5237 how am i galzing? Get dogpacks glizzy out of your mouth and watch the video
0 likesOk you glazing mrbeast now ngl, You repeating the whole hate the exposer credibility cycle,This vid doesent make mrbeast or soggy a saint.
6 likesLook at how many people exposing mrbeast rn including COFFEEZILLA who is genuinely an unbiased reporter
dogpack isnt the one with millions upon millions of dollars and influence. most people arent even aware of dogpacks existence or the drama in general
1 likeAll this drama has revived my attention span
0 likesAt 53:04
0 likesDogpack was talking about the other timer. He wasn't even making an accusation but saying "clearly" because the timer is a digital widget on the screen.
You wouldn't be able to see the physical timer for most of the video.
But great video, man
If you look at the very first mack video's first obstacle, you will see when he slides under the gate Indiana Jones style, his legs were clipping through the falling gate! So yes, Jimmy did fake some of his videos.
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MrBeast should tell his viewers that he uses chi because most of them little kids that think it’s real but no Mrbeast constantly lies to his audience
0 likes@@darpmosh6601 Oh no, a content creator using CGI is apparently bad and has nothing to do with entertainment at all. I knew those pyramids were fake in the "$1 vs. $500,000 Experiences" video. Egypt should sue MrBeast for defamation now. Why did Jimmy tell us that those pyramids were REAL?
0 likes@@jonathanjohnson4594 But the scummy thing is, you're using CGI to make a guy that seems like he didn't pass, actually pass a challenge. You are deliberately tricking viewers with that maneuver. You are shoehorning a W in the video for dramatic purposes.
1 likeHe does use cgi soggy admits to it in the video
7 likesBro should be a lawyer
3 likesDogpack has been real quiet, and this dropped
1 likeHonestly the only person here I feel any sympathy for is Jake Weddle. My man got manipulated into destroying his mental health for money, then years later got manipulated again into putting himself back out there instead of just trying to get on with his life. He got caught up in the hype of getting payback on someone he hates and is now back on the back foot after getting rightfully angry that people were trying to deny his lived experience and making a really dumb mistake.
4 likesHe made statements giving tips on things Dawson might want to check out that were then broadcast as fact. He felt pressured into not taking the money from MrBeast that he (at least in my opinion) definitely earned. After everything Jimmy put him through, he saw someone that seemed to be honestly trying to bring the shitty things he knew about to light, and he came out from the woodwork to try and help, and after all that, he's going to be stuck on this sinking ship with Dawson and Rosanna.
But hey, at least he got a photo with Jason Derulo out of it, so...
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Dude spent 2 weeks in what was essentially a 5-star hotel room, could leave at any point, made over $100k for doing literally no work, and only had to drape a sheet over his eyes at night to block the light out like every other Mr Beast contestant has done since, then tried to destroy his friend's life over it. Guy is a joke and I hope the punchline is a lawsuit.
1 likefinally, people will start understanding how slow this person is, as soon as his first video was posted and it was full of holes and no proof, i knew its wouldn't take long for this guy to get put in his place
2 likesim so glad im on the right side of yt
2 likesSoggy cereal da god ❤, I’m glad that you debunked all of the stupid allegations that dogpacks made because he is a complete manipulator for cohering people’s “(confessions)” for his hitpiece narrative🤦🏻
2 likesTruth & exposure of MrBeast in a nutshell: How did we get here from Jimmy Mark of the Beast 6000 🍕👨🏼🍫💸 < Dogpack404 🐶💩 << SoggyCereal 👱🏻🥃
0 likesWhat’s the chance that Dawson is a plant that Jimmy is using to make his critics seem insane.
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Dogpack was the tool used to bring down the OP. He wasn’t the brightest in the shed, but he had his uses, at least.
0 likesHe was the controlled opposition the whole time
0 likes@@mbozzie2347 it fun theory I can't lie but no way he did it; or he truly playing 4 d chess
0 likes@ I can’t believe that he is this incompetent. I know I’m tweaking but is a fun conspiracy
0 likesDogpack led you guys to the most crazy conspiracy theories
3 likesIm glad you called Dogpack out. I watched the first 2 videos and some stuff seemed off like we only got a small portion of the story. Giving us the allegation then quickly moving on to the next allegation with no real deep dive or seeing another side of it. I also thought it was stupid and disingenuous to call him for the CGI he used in some videos like the squid games,because Mr Beast channel shown all of that on their instagram and youtube. It wasnt faking videos,it is common to use special effects to enhance the video
1 like49:28 you know I just realize something if you look closely and behind him, it reads in Japanese and if you do look up the company, then you realize the rockets don’t look like that. How the fuck is no one mentioned this
1 likesomeone expose soggy cereal i dont know who to believe anymore
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@@Derekellis679 Trust Soggy. He shows actual proof. DogPack never had proof for any of his claims.
0 likes@@arielperez3613 the sad reality of 2023 - 24 nowadays
0 likes"Forget A.i and fraud Drama braggin while Humans will forever be really that stoopid"😅
It’s all back and forth now. Someone exposes for lying then the other person exposes them for taking them out of context or missing information. It’s a cycle
1 likethat's the exact point of the Video😂 trust no one! Cuz everyone will never know what to believe everything anymore....
0 likes"we live in a world where Humanity are back to apes and a degenarrative of fascism N shitheads" 🤡
Summary of This video: "Never trust MrBeast ever in million years but also never falling to Misinformation Drama braggin from Doggo cult's"
2 likes"Basically take Nobody sides, humanity ignorance is bliss, cuz the world always been full of lies. While we kept ourselves in a room wasting time and do meaningless allegations, commentaries without critically think for ourselves" including those of manipulative youtube Companies off-topic brands who being control by A.i, Products and own devices like Goddamn slave we made to one self too another?!?!!👨🏻🦳👎🏻
with all the commotion outtaway, right there ma friend is not a Theory, that's a fact! the sad truth of 2024 being the year of exposure but also the lost cause of Humanity selves...
"is too late to make a change" only time will tell 🙄
2025 be better (or that'll day never come soon if we don't do smth about it)
Edit: Take actions, ignored drama and stop trigger ragebait even when it's all true (Slop content is not on my support fair use)
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Mate, take your meds
0 likesStucky is not creditable when he deletes comments and shadow bans people.
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He doesn't and you're lying. Learn to accept when you've been wrong about something and grow tf up. You're exhibiting the exact same behavior as DogPack doing this.
0 likes@joenoodleplayz5694 so basically it's either him or youtube great
0 likes@@BasedGrandmasKitchen a small korean youtuber
0 likes@@matthewpierre-canel5890 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eb9Q1Zi9MTs
0 likes@@joenoodleplayz5694also do you have proof that he deletes comments or are you just saying s*** just to say s***
1 like@@joenoodleplayz5694considering the fact that I see a lot and I mean a lot of comments that are insulting him or call him a glazer your just wrong
1 like@@BasedGrandmasKitchen Walmart soggy cereal
0 likeswho is stucky
2 likes@@wOu_fAn333 He probably doesn't see them since there's a lot of comments, he definitely does delete comments which is shady.
2 likesI still see negative comments that aren't deleted tho
2 likesThank you soggy for the explanation! :)
1 likeThis, was amazing. Your journalism skills are beyond legit. Thank you for clearing everything up!
2 likesLooking at Doggy pack guy differently, but I still think Mr Beast isn’t a good person.
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Why? Nearly every accusation has either been debunked or is yet to have both sides of the story given? Just say you don't want to admit that you were wrong but also can't deny any of the facts that Soggy laid out and so the comfortable compromise is "weellll, Mr Beast still bad >:( but now DogPack bad too"
0 likesThank you for this, after I watched the original DogPack404 video I remember going to Ludwig’s livestream reacting to it and I watched the interaction between him and Ludwig play out and I just had this weird feeling in my gut with the way he conducted himself there that just made him seem like a really paranoid and disgruntled person like him accusing Lud of “being a plant” when he was asking reasonable questions. Always just felt like something was wrong with his character.
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And everyone in Ludwig's comments section ate Ludwig alive for "trying to make poor Dawson break his NDA >:("
0 likes1.both of them are shitty
1 like2.ya'll either stop or keep watching Mr.beast content
3.stop making videos about the 2 fuckers (just let them die [not literally])
4. Ya'll need to wait for Mr.beast to finally respond
5. (Personal opinion) i don't really care if X or Y is an asshole, never watched a single Mr.beast video because i always thought that his videos where brainrot content
6. (Another Personal opinion) i don't really care about this whole thing because it doesn't affect me directly (you can call me a bad person for that [i know :D])
7. It's not because a SINGLE video (2 actually) was debunked that Mr.beast is magically a good guy again (i'm saying that for the peeps who believe he is back to being a goodie 2 shoes)
8. I feel like Mr.beast is a bit like jake dorhoty (or whatever his surname is). What i mean by that, is that he got famous too young and too fast
8. I like waffles
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I like waffles🧇
0 likes@@turar954 I mean he is the man that understands youtube the best; he makes the trends that other follows and he's made the biggest YouTube empire. That's just why I think it though.
0 likes@@jonathanjohnson4594 I knew I should have put "(not as bad as him)" and you do you i guess, but I don't think Mr.beast his a GOAT
0 likesDon't compare my goat to Jack ok he may of made some accident on the way but their two 21:47 completely different people. Jack is infinity worst
0 likesHe literally commented in this video section earlier 10 mins ago if you can see
0 likesThe whole mrbeast drama tells us that even the people that seem to be the most less controversial could turn out to be the most controversial. considering that dogpack worked there for only 3 weeks and became this whole mister who shit, and mrbeast being this monopoly man turning the gears on and fuck up the entire youtube community, as well as the employees like jaketheviking and weddle arent great people themselves. NO ONE IS PERFECT. if its too good to be true, IT IS too good to be true. Grow the fuck up 🔥
1 likeThis is the best video ive seen since February 3rd 2022
2 likesBoth parties are bad, but I don’t understand the argument you’re trying to make here
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You know exactly what the point is, you just don't want to have to consider you were fooled because that would hurt your ego
0 likesPeople are blindly following Dogpack; soggy shows you shouldn't blindly trust him and point out the lies he made.
6 likesGood thing MrBeast noticed this
0 likesHonestly i never bought the accusations Dogpack was making.
1 likeThat said my opinion of MrBeast still took a huge dip after them because they sorta revealed him to be very corpo. He doesnt feel like a down to Earth guy anymore; he doesbt make Twitter posts anymore and he's totally silent on all of this beyond a lawyer statement. And worse is his collab with thise walking brain viruses KSI and Logan Paul; i wouldve support Lunchly had they not been invovled but now i actively root for its failjre so he stops working with them
Well that just took a 180
1 likeFinally that MrBeast sees this
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Yo
1 likehello bro
1 likeAmazing video video essay of the year fr
0 likesReally great informative video. I have seen some criticism about dogpack before and had some of my own, but I didn’t realize how much of it was bullshit
1 like“What a twist !”
2 likes-M. Night Shyamalan
LET’S FUCKING GO!
2 likes❤
2 likesIm glad you made this video, ive made quite a few bs exposing paragraph comments on dogpack and rosana pansino videos. Im not a mrbeast defender, I just really really hate bullshit, especially for personal gain and the destruction of others.
6 likesA clean and fairly recent example was their collab video where at one point they take mrbeast showing the same video clip of a well labeled differently.... and assert to their audience "mrbeast is faking building wells". Its the constant "this is true" bs statements, titles, thumbnails, and maybe a "just my opinion!" in the description. It reeks.
Recently the internal investigation about actual concerning employees concluded, using an OUTSIDE firm.... and somehow someway every single comment I've seen makes the joke "we investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong"....
Thats why (IMO) its taking so long for mrbeast to make a comprehensive reply video... if the general public misinterprets the first sentence of that investigation conclusion document... and clearly there's a massive audience eating up mrbeast slander slop content... how on earth will a hours-long response video be taken?
im convinced your all lying, and your all down bad, and you guys can figure it out. Just looking at the video itself, seeing a 3 minute section for criticism for mr beast ......... being teamed up with logan and ksi, thats not even possible.
1 likeBoth videos by both creators have dishonesty to them, its like CNN vs FOX
You’re all dodgy
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Have a cry, mate
0 likesThe description is crazy 💀
1 likeI am surprised nobody bothered to make a video like this first
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i think mans trying to be the contrarian, the guy who dares to go against the current
1 likeim waiting for the people saying "i knew it from the start bro"
6 likesthis video needs WAYYYYY more attention. Asmonnnnnn
4 likesCritically underrated and under-viewed.
8 likesCommenting for the algorithm.
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This needs to shed light on the Dogpack allegation, or else people will be fed misinformation by the Dogpack cult. Accountability and credibility above all else.
0 likesMrBeast should just upload this video as his explanation
3 likesGod I bet we all feel so stupid
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We? Nah bro, not all of us allow ourselves to be so easily fooled. Dawson had little to no evidence for most of his claims. You can even see on screen he compares 60g of Feastables to only 43g of Hersheys. The lies were so obvious and people still ate it up.
0 likesFinally! A video that doesn’t spread baseless slander about me lol
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0 likesIf you see this MrBeast, let us know approximately when you can address the allegations including Beast Games.
0 likesdude, people are litteraly going to make 15 minute videos about this one comment.
0 likes@ wait did you hate him before dog packs video or…
0 likesAlright
0 likesdude im so confused, can someone explain???
0 likesTrue.
0 likesYO MISTAH BEAST
0 likesWell you aren’t out of all the drama yet. (Crypto Scam)
0 likesDoesn't mean you're a good person either bro.
0 likes@@CFTP_1705real
0 likesGonna talk about your crypto history, beast games, moldy cheese, deleting comments, ava, and why you replied to Jake Weddle AFTER part 2 came out?
0 likesOh NOW you got smth to say 🗿
0 likes@@Rayx_M Why would he end this drama? I mean it's free advertising for him.
0 likesbro shut up
0 likesdoesnt make you any better. Some things here could be wrong, and theres still the allegations that were still proven correct at the end of this video. and, most importantly, collabing with 2 other bad people, and giving birth to the horrible child, LUNCHLY
0 likes@@volkankoyuncu8142 yeah
0 likesStill hate you either way if dog pack lied
0 likesMr beast, pls respond to crypto allegations
0 likes@@fitherin7017 nobody is. but you can't say mrbeast hasn't done a lot of good. like you probably have done some good too
0 likes@@arielperez3613 i feel like logan paul and ksi should respond to that
0 likesI'm surprised you had time away from cryptoscamming with the Prime Losers to come here and leave a comment
0 likesWill comments still be deleted/filtered on your videos?
0 likes@@shadowelza1923 Even more suspicious is the reply is now gone. Hmm... I wonder if Soggy has deleted anyone spreading the truth?
0 likesstill doesnt make you a better person
0 likesDon’t act like you’re not a slimy cretin when the cameras aren’t looking
0 likesYou’re not in the clear yet lil bro
0 likes@mrbeast
0 likesbro you're literally still awful
0 likesDelaware, crypto, Logan Paul. Yep checks out.
0 likesgirl WHAT.
0 likesNo f'in way
0 likesIm still waiting for the Apology video with the ukelele
0 likesI genuinely thought this was one of those scam accounts before checking the channel my word
0 likesJimmy, can you PLEASE tell me what's going on with you??? 😭
1 likeBro DID NOT watch the whole video. You are not in the clear. Stop commenting here and address what you did wrong
1 like@@Rayx_M” internet hero “ ahh kid
0 likesbro jimmy why did you not make a video like this yourself
0 likes@@fitherin7017why not
0 likesit's not slander if it's true
0 likesDoesn’t mean your any better
0 likesGoated mrbeast
0 likesBruh
0 likescan you please make a response vid on ur second channel
1 likeFree Mr. Beast!
0 likesAt least we got a "response" finally 😳
0 likeswe aint done with you yet
0 likes@@Rayx_M He's a HUGE brand, its not that easy to respond to life ruining allegations.
0 likesYou're still not innocent bro
0 likesyou're still a bad person lmao
1 likeL jimmy
0 likesits the guy
0 likesWhat on earth
0 likesI genuinely did not expect this. Anyways, while a great deal of allegations have been lifted off your chest, there's still some weight you have to lift off your shoulders to reclaim your usurped throne.
0 likesMr beaast
0 likesWell yea, but you are still in some shit. So you are not exactly scot-free.
0 likesIf it isn't jimmy the beast
0 likesYour still a gross businessman who is too obsessed with money, nothing will change that no matter how much you help other people and posture yourself as a good guy to the internet, you know it deep down even if you have persuaded yourself you're not actually greedy and addicted and selfish
0 likesJesus loves you all✝️
0 likes🐐
0 likesYO WHAT 💀
0 likesstill an asshole
0 likesFunny, people think mr beast is still one person... It becomed long ago just another industry company with Jimmy face on
0 likesOh, hey dude
0 likesNot to be rude but can you please talk about and be honest for Luther stuff like the not crypto or the 1 illegal stream, u are innocent but own up to other stuff like crypto and others
0 likesHush you still not a good guy
1 likesue dogpak for defamation lol
2 likesfrom the king to the ring to the pen to the king
0 likesWow Mr.Beast here
0 likesIts sad a stupid ex-employee with anger issues tried to character assasinate and painted you an evil guy but truth always prevails and you won.Please sue that hideous idiot and lock him up in jail.
my goat 🐐
0 likes@@fitherin7017 he still is
0 likesBot
0 likesSoo how about you address the allegations instead of calling them baseless slander ? Like ok I get it a bit of it is definitely baseless drama shit but c'mon dude you were my favorite YouTuber and you turned out to be a soulless corporate husk
0 likesayy its the antichrist
0 likesYou realise you’re still not exactly considered a good person either?
0 likesyab
0 likesdoesnt make all ur other actions okay(:
0 likesWhy you waiting for others to defend for you? Is it because you'll look guilty for ignoring the real accusations?
0 likesBRO YOU COULDVE RESPONDED AND NONE OF THIS WOULDVE HAPPENED LMAO
0 likesHow about you comment this on Coffeezilla's video as well
0 likesMrbased I just tested HIV positive !!!
0 likesMr EAST THATS YOUU
0 likesWE ARE SO BACK
0 likesDoesn’t make you much better either way.
0 likesYet u refuse to actually address anything 😂
0 likesDawg you hired a registered offender in one of your videos you aren’t slik
0 likesYour both scumbags
0 likes@@SETlndiaTM failed
0 likesBro paid a bunch of lawyers to defending just for this guy to do a better job. (You still messed up with lunchly)
2 likesYoure not cleared completely yet
0 likes"I like my cheese moldy" -A scammer
0 likesDoesn't mention the videos that spread grounded slander on him
0 likesHOLY SHITE A RESPONSE
0 likesshut it dip stick
0 likesAddress the allegations officially bro, clearly you're aware of it all.
0 likesayo what the hell
0 likesYou're still not fully innocent lil bro 💀🙏
1 likenow you're speaking on the matter when someone is defending you lol
0 likesYou ain't a good fuckin person dude. You might not be as bad as people say, but you have still done some stupid and awful things, being dumb isn't an excuse.
0 likesOh wow
0 likesYou're still a criminal you know that
1 likeAlso YAB
0 likesDon't get too excited
0 likesTheir are some things that you still need to address, like crypto stuff
dogpack might've lied but you still aint good because of the kris tyson and lunchly controversies
0 likesWas not expecting you here.
0 likesThis shows your true colors jimmy. You cant just keep denying without even explaining your self.
3 likesWHAAAT
0 likesdis the real g lol
0 likesWth
0 likes@@Rayx_MHe has responded LEGALLY. If somebody is throwing this much slander at you, the first thing you do is jump legally. If you are running a multi billion dollar company, you don’t want to wait to make a 3 month research apology/debunk video. That could cause your whole company to collapse and burn.
0 likesDont act like you’re free from drama just yet, you still have a lot of things to address. Like knowingly collaborating with a literal scammer. Thats one of the least severe btw
1 likeExcuse me?
0 likesDogpack404 may now be in the thick of it
0 likesBut still with you everybody knows
LMAO
0 likesDoesn't make you a good person Mr breast
0 likes@@oxforduthey know you where it snows you stay in and it froze
1 likeDogpack is a scumbag, yes, but so do you.
1 likeOK, then why didn't you respond to the allegations months ago?
1 like@ It has to be lol. This move wouldn’t have been approved by anyone else.
0 likesWe still don't like you buddy
0 likesJIMMY THE MAN HIMSELF COMMENTED ON THE DRAMA???!!!!
0 likesBooo
0 likesall your fault for keeping quiet all this time. also we didn't forget your moldy cheese with logan paul lil bro
0 likesYou should deliver your final blows against Dogpack and that Rosana, she is the worst person I have seen. She is so petty.
1 likei don't think its baseless...
0 likes@@martianproductions997 so prime is bad for kids but not the one in prime that one is the health version of it
0 likes@@LaMereACaniche all crypt is a scam
0 likes@@Anonymice trust me i’ve been watching this channel for a while he’s trustworthy
0 likesYou ain’t done yet there’s lunchly and the crypto scam
1 likeAYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
0 likes@@fitherin7017 did you just say that after watching the video?
0 likesBoth you and Dawson French are in the wrong. Don't act like you haven't done some bad stuff
0 likesagreed
1 likeOH SO NOW YOU RESPOND
0 likesWHERE THE HELL WHERE YOU!?
No fucking way
0 likesLet’s goooo based MrBeast (and Soggy Cereal)
0 likesBut are you even gonna make a video about this topic, Jimmy?
Time spent writing this comment could've been more time spent tweeting about your next Crypto scam instead.
0 likesyour not innocent lil buddy
1 likeright, but your still a questionable guy, I'll lay off the hate a bit but your still not someone I'd support.
0 likesIf you stay silent about "slander" then everyone is gonna think it's true.
0 likesYO!
0 likes@@reinbew62 real
0 likesMRBEAST??
0 likesyou still have some sins behind you buddy
0 likesofficial mrbeast channel is crazy...
1 likeJust because Dogpack isn't a good guy, doesn't mean you are...
1 likeI love you Jimmy but there are still some things you did that Im not crazy about. Why colab with a ghoul like Logan? You gotta know Prime is terrible for kids to be drinking.
1 likeAlso even though you gave the boys permission to sign the shirts it doesnt feel the same anymore knowing that the ones I bought were prob signed by Tyler or someone I dont really care about.
Anyway I only hope you keep making the world a better place and keep helping people because thats what I followed you for in the first place. Good luck
you absolute clown its not baseless
0 likesdosent explain the way you responded all this
0 likes@epicgam3r737 then where did he?? clearly he didnt.
0 likesMRBEAST!?
0 likesSo you respond to this vid from a channel with a quarter mil subs but wont respond to 3mill sub coffeezilla?? Sounds like lil brown evelopes are involved here
1 likekl
0 likes😂 you paid someone to make a video for yourself, since your stupid internal investigations was bullshit. You’re a coward Mr.Beast. Your Jewish smear campaign won’t work to get your ass away from the fire you peace of shit pedophile sympathizer!
0 likeswata sigma
0 likes@@gekkouga2828he probably paid for it
0 likesYou deleted comments lol 😂
0 likesSupporting chris tyson on your channel aimed at children is despicable enough, absolutely disgusting
1 likeWHAT
0 likesDude, it's the perfect time to actually respond to everything now that a lot of allegations are false. Address the ones that are confirmed/ suspected to be true, and we're golden.
0 likesI like my cheese moldy bruh
1 likeI totally tought this was another account. Before i clicked on it
0 likesIt's just a cycle
0 likes@KattSmulan Jimmy's team doesn't have any control over Soggys comment section. And Soggy is pretty good about his block list so if you're seeing your comments disappear....that's probably YouTube itself. It deleted one of mine too. It happens a LOT if you talk about sponsors or even just list another country in the comment. YouTube censors folks like crazy and them hiding comments about Jimmy and his team checks out.
0 likeswhat
0 likesWow, you still aren't meaningfully responding to the allegations, and now you strawman and ad hominem all your detractors. Shame on you, just goes to show how gross of a person you are
3 likes@@fitherin7017 yes he is you are prolly broke and miserable
1 likewtf the real Mr.Beast??
0 likesyeah shut you're still a bad person
0 likesMR BEAST
0 likesYou and your company are still bad and shady people. You have yet to make an actual response - the only time you comment is on this video defending you. How egotistical do you have to be?
2 likes@@knownsince20 He did? That's why he's the only person who has been able to get a response or interviews from current staff and why he wasn't actually allowed to ask about any of the potentially true allegations. Only debunk the obvious lies. I'm sure Soggy got the same legal statement about the remaining allegations on his board that staff didn't even touch. And they talked around a lot of topics that Soggy didn't push, likely so he wouldn't lose footage or their cooperation.
0 likes14:03 the issue is not about the war crime joke, it’s the issue that Jake waddle was mentally and physically hurt and dare I say traumatised (according to how waddle described it at least) in a room with the light constantly on always, no track of time, no regard for his health as he was made to a marathon and physically exhausted for a monetary incentive. That’s gotta be grounds for some charge? But idk how that would work technically or legally. I can definitely see Jake pursue this further. Will it hold? We can’t say.
0 likesIf you're so innocent stop restricting your comments then
0 likesBro no fucking way
0 likes@@Someperson12532 He allowed the interviews of his current staff to happen and they knew exactly what they were allowed to say when they went in. He doesn't need to watch it when he knows exactly what information Soggy was given. Note that Soggy basically didn't touch any of the standing allegations and wasn't interviewing about those topics covered in his legal statement about his actual illegal or shady activities. This was a WELL controlled video where Jimmy's staff was basically a partner specifically to debunk the obvious lies Dogpack put out. But literally nothing to do with the legit allegations based on perceived evidence by several parties. Soggy did a great job here but even he is aware that this video was heavily controlled by Jimmy's team. Which is why he focuses so much on debunking Dogpack rather than proving Jimmy and his brand are doing what they're accused of. Because ain't no way he would have been allowed to talk to ANYONE on his team without framing it as debunking the lies. But in doing so we can very much see that gaping holes in what Jimmy is allowing to be said publicly about himself and the brand. Which is also why this is the only video his team has ever commented on regarding ANY allegations publicly. They 100% are trying to use Soggy to bolster their brands reputation. Soggy putting ALL of the allegations up on a board so we can see just how much they refused to respond to was basically the death knoll of their public responses. They tried to manipulate Soggy but he didn't actually defend them all that much. They're patting themselves on the back for thinking that this video successfully manipulated people into completely discrediting EVERY allegation brought against him despite the video showing the exact opposite. The things he refuses to discuss are a lot louder than Dogpacks lies and they're panicking about it.
0 likesThis doesn't mean you're innocent
0 likes?
0 likesYou wish
0 likesYou still need to respond though
0 likeswow cool
0 likesit's based slander!
0 likesJust because most of the allegations have been debunked in the video, doesn't mean that you're in the clear. You'e gonna need to address what Coffezilla talked about in his latest video regarding your involvement in a crypto scheme. It's not over yet.
1 likethere he is!
0 likes❤
0 likeswas anyone at mr beast producing something like this? or was the stuff going around just ignorable
0 likesur not innocent either lil bro
0 likes@@banknoted An idiom that has zero baring in the real world. 😐
0 likesOH SO NOW YOU WANNA TALK
0 likesChild intoxicator
0 likesCrypto scammer
0 likesPay for the charities you say you did! You war criminal!
0 likesIf you knew nothing bad was happening at your company, why did you avoid defending yourself.
0 likes@@beastshort6000 He would sell you North Korea for more viewership and sponsors. 😐
0 likesDang mr beast is true real person
0 likes@@volkankoyuncu8142 We do know that. He's had weeks and he HAS sent out statements about it. The statements basically just tell people investigating to mind their own business though. He has no intention of responding unless people take him to court.
0 likesyou’re not a saint either pal
0 likes@@beastshort6000glazer
0 likes@@arielperez3613 Oh no he responded about the cheese! They all think it's hilarious!!
0 likes@@jonathanjohnson4594 Y'all would suck this clout chaser off even if he commit literal war crimes I stg
0 likescan you stop removing all non bot comments now
1 likeok
0 likes@@MrBeast Cool. Can you put out a statement about your crypto scams that a lawyer didn't write or are you just stopping by to pretend to be cooperative? Just because that guy is clearly biased doesn't mean he was wrong about everything. In fact, other people were investigating you long before he was. Interesting how you allowed interviews and open responses to Soggy but not to other creators with more experience and knowledge that could actually expose you for illegal activity just by looking at your paperwork a little closer. I know he won't respond to this but let's not play down here. He is not engaging with larger creators with a long history of exposing people for doing the same thing. Coffezilla reached out several times and I'm pretty sure he's ignoring lawyers reaching out for comment as well. Not all of what that guy said was even slander. Notice how many claims Soggy WASN'T able to debunk despite being EXTREMELY generous after being manipulated? And Soggy is perfectly aware that Jimmy is likely manipulating him too. Because both of them still have tons of sh- to hide from the public.
1 likeY'all should not be surprised to see him down here. He is the one who allowed the interviews to happen when literally no one else has been able to get more than that whack ahh lawyer written statement basically telling folks to mind their business.
Him being down here is literally a manipulation tactic in and of itself.
@@PhoenixAce????? He doesn’t need to make a video to an audience full of kids, what are you on???
0 likes@@cpjiyeah, donating millions of dollars to charities isn’t a good deed is it pal?
0 likesbro what did not expect mr beast to be here
0 likes@@via6900it also doesn’t change the fact that he did good things.
0 likesdayuuum
0 likes@@volkankoyuncu8142Definitely agree with this statement. Even though Dogpack is a fraud, you still got to own up for the other deceptive tactics you employ at MrBeast. Also, I’m 99% certain this is not MrBeast commenting here but rather one of your cronies.
0 likesThis must be the first acknowledgement coming directly from MrBeast that isn't a heavily-lawyered statement.
0 likesYou both suck ass lmao
0 likes@@betterbolthe did buddy
0 likesI’m very glad I supported you at first ❤
0 likes@@shadowelza1923 Fr he couldn't even make a video debunking any claims. Criticism about his unhealthy, mouldy rip off of lunchables and how he's not creating poverty porn videos
1 likeYou hired a RSO, and hid a peadophile in your company, they ain’t baseless mate
0 likes.
0 likesGET OUT🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
0 likesHey Mr beast lol
0 likeswhat
0 likesHad TO ADD THE LOL!!!
0 likesPlease stop being stupid and just actually say something worthwhile. Or better yet, make an actual stance other than "It's all lies and I'll ignore it until it stops."
0 likeswho the hell on your team thought it was a good idea to respond to this?
3 likesBoycott Lunchly!!!!
0 likesyooo
1 likeCan't believe this guy to be here
0 likesShut the fuck up and go back to peddling rip-off lunchables for your baby-brained fanbase.
0 likesreply to this, you still have things you did, accountability is the first step.
0 likesJust put the mold in the lunchly bro
0 likesMR BEAST YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TF
0 likesYou're a piece of shit. Others being pieces of shit around you does not change that fact. It makes sense. Shit flocks to shit.
0 likesThis is desperate man
0 likes@ Where‘s mycrown dasmablin all ways draamaawenairin
0 likesWHAT
0 likes@ Give an example
0 likesBut is the cheese moldy bruh?
0 likesfrom the scdreen tot the rig to the pen to thekinggggggggggggg
0 likeshe still stole like 20m dollars
0 likesbro, you ain't off the hook
2 likesaddress the crypto allegations
1 likeSigma
0 likesWtf
0 likesWhy did you hire Delaware?
0 likesFinally your actually slightly communicating about the allegations
0 likesYou're a bad person...
1 likeMrBeast glazing was not in my 2024 bingo card
1 likeDude hop off of YouTube and address the allegations lol. You should not be talking 😂🤡
0 likesYo what
0 likesThat doesn't make you any better Jimmy.
0 likesyou ain’t a good person either 🤷♂
0 likesNot MrBeast finally responding and NOT realizing he still gets slandered
0 likesjust because dogpack got exposed doesn't mean what you did was any better
1 likeYou better get out of here with that, just because one guy said something nice about you does not mean you’re a-okay. Jimmy, you’ve done something wrong, you’ve done many things wrong and your lies have been shown. Fess up like an adult instead of hiding in a cave.
0 likesHe responded
0 likes@tidototter excluding that I meant
0 likeslove how people will think this is a random account!
0 likesthen respond to Coffezilla you coward
2 likesYour not out of hot water yet buddy..
0 likesDont you have a gambling crypto to promote to children?
2 likesThis makes me want to consume large quantities of electrolytes!
0 likesYou should probably still respond
0 likesAnd the first one you answer to! How convenient!
2 likes@@Communitrics loser
0 likesMrbeast you can get thorugh this bro its good to have you back
0 likesJimmy you really, really shouldn't have commented lmao
0 likesSue DogPack pls
2 likesmrbeast. i finally. supprot oyu again.
0 likesI was here when it happened.
0 likesbro was praying for dogpacs downfall like everyone is evil but you are more
1 likeHOLY SMOKES
0 likesLMAO W
0 likesIf You are innocent then why did You mute your comment sections???
0 likesTrue, more if the guy will, deservedly, will launch a lawsuit agaisnt dogpack.@@volkankoyuncu8142
0 likesOh shut up bozo you've been a piece of shit way before this dogpack drama
0 likes@@fitherin7017 who is?
0 likesyou're not a good person regardless lil bro.
1 like@@MrBeast I am currently typing to put my name under a mrbreast comment, so hopefully when the dramatubers show, they’ll see me because I am desperate for attention
0 likesOf course bro only respondss to a video that wasn't exposing him
0 likesI think theres a reason theres no hearts, or pins , or responses, on this comment.
1 likeNo way
0 likes@@BlockOfLapis123LMAO You guys are everywhere 😂
0 likes@@fitherin7017 He's not perfect, but is better than most
0 likesJimmyyyyy 🤨
0 likesYou're still not in the clear yet.
Youre still a dogshit person go make more propaganda for corpos (like teamseas)
0 likes@ Wtf He literally said that he will make a video about it when all of it has come out. You are delusional.
0 likesSo the response to the allegations is "they are baseless lol" ? 💀
1 likeThe only MrBeast comment with less than a thousand likes
0 likesSome of the allegations are still true.
0 likesPlease shut up. You’ve still done a crap ton of bad stuff and there’s still more stuff than just 3 that were confirmed as true before. So don’t even try and say baseless.
0 likesYou still refuse to talk about this situation which is pretty suspicious
1 likeyo jimmy im one of your first 5000 subs
0 likesYou're still a dickhead
0 likes@@MrBeast Please respond
0 likesMrbeast has been blocked by cyby services until this issue is resolved.
0 likesIf you think this was a mistake please report it
wow a comment
1 likedear historians of the future, i was here for this event
0 likesyou still did some shady shit man
0 likesu gotta apologize and stuff. take the example of TheManniShow. still beter then dogpack
How's the crypto business Jimmy?
1 like@@oxfordu they know you where it snows you skied in and they froze
1 likeYou’re still not a good person.
0 likesur chopped
1 likeStill hate U, for no reason now then
0 likesThis doesn’t make you innocent either bro
0 likesDidn’t excpect to see you here.
0 likesbro respond and tell people that dogpack is lying 😭😭
1 like@@rosemulet Say... Didn't you defend grape and had another loser made you cry?
0 likesTHIS IS THE REAL MR BEAST??!
0 likesbro thinks he's off the hook 🤪
0 likesThe fact you commented on this makes me think you paid him for this
0 likes@@saltycriticdidn't you see the twitter response?
0 likesLove how this is the one comment section that won't give Mrbeast free likes lmao
0 likesYour content is still trash and the fact you need another content creator to defend you instead of addressing this situation yourself. Tell me everything I need to know.
3 likesWell, this comment was unexpected
0 likesbro shut up
0 likesI thought that dogpack guy was shady ever sense i watched the ludwig interview on his livestream
0 likesStill a crypto scammer(p&d, insider trader) tho, pay up your victims
2 likesTsk tsk, lunchly.....
0 likesMr beast is in the thick of it😮💨
0 likesW Jimmy, do a video of paying a $1 v $1000000 lawyer to dogpack
0 likesIf you make a response video, upload it to the gaming channel. It would be funny.
1 likeGIVE ME MONEY
0 likesYou deserve jail sociopath
0 likesJimmy stop pretending that all allegations are disproven your still guilty lil bro.
0 likesBRO WHAT IS YOU DOING HERE
0 likes@@destinysoblivion3268 cry louder, lol.
0 likesOk so… are you going to officially address the allegations or what?
1 likei like my cheese moldy bruh
0 likesOk then address the rest of the allegations. Prove him wrong.
0 likesremember, some bad things you've done HAVE been confirmed
1 likeYou’re not in your prime anymore
0 likesI mean Lunchly is still bad but at least ur back
0 likesthis is crazy pls make a response video before you comment on other random videos
0 likesKeep on grinding king
0 likeswow
0 likesboooo sit downn
1 likethey weren’t baseless dipshit
0 likeswoah jimmy feastables
0 likesNo way-
0 likesMISTER BEATS?
1 likei thought this was a fake account
0 likesThe sheer hubris you have is unimaginable
0 likesShut upp
0 likesDid he just read only the title?
0 likesBro will reply to the video defending him but will refuse to actually defend himself lmao
0 likesbro finally responded to the allegations
0 likesActually address the allegations yourself instead of letting other people do it for you
0 likes“I like my cheese moldy bruh”
0 likesgreat, now respond to the allegations yourself.
0 likesHow much did you know about Kris Tyson's sexual deviancy?
0 likesMrbeast commenting here was unexpected lol. You aint innocent either tho
0 likes@@Linxyc mrbeast got scammed by a 3rd party so wowp womp
0 likesWhy not reply to the other ones? You is a little sus
1 likeYou still aint out of the mud yet, quite a bit to go.
0 likesmr beast!!!
0 likesIt feels illegal seeing this
0 likesYou still haven’t addressed anything yourself.
0 likesno way its the real mrbeast
0 likesi think it's all false besides ava tyson, but that doesn't mean that you are evil
0 likesNot 1k yet after 14hours ago😮
0 likesHi jimmy
1 like:3
0 likesThis is the first time I’ve seen you directly address the situation lmao
0 likesYou’re not free of blame
0 likesBro's been looking for this video for some time
0 likesPretty suspicious of you to comment so soon after the video came out huh...😒 Either you already knew this video was in the making or... you might have paid Soggy to do it. Even if you came to know about it through your employees who were interviewed in this video, how can we say for sure they are completely unbiased and not just glazing you just cause your are their employer.
0 likesYeah jimmy being silent about the situation already tarnished your image
0 likesmrbeast I always believed in you can I have a million dollars plz I will by feastables and lunchly 🙏🙏🙏
0 likesLet's gooooo
0 likesBro what is even goin in anymore
0 likesOh shit mr beast
0 likesHoly crap it's mrbeast
0 likesNo way the real mrbeast is here
0 likesYour not in the clear lil bro
0 likesIndeed, there are things are can be explained, but please, as soggy said at the end of his video, nothing is clear until YOU say it! like the crypto thing, or the 1st lottery, just be honest and relatable, like the mrBeast I subscribed many years ago, not just behind the manager or someone, I get it, its too much legal process and confidentiality, but people need YOU to talk about it. Take care!
2 likesoh so you're aware of them
1 likePegasus content provider
1 likeFINALY YOU SAID SOMETHING
1 likeah yes from one asshole to another
0 likesYou are still overdue for a response my guy.
0 likesWe love the truth
1 likewhoah
0 likes@@Zer0AsWellthey know me where it snows i skied in and they froze
0 likesYou could have debunked all dogpack allegations yourself by at least make a video long time ago, but you remained silent. Furthermore there are plenty of other allegations that you still didn't address them. You are not clean. Btw how much did you pay this guy?
2 likeswoah real mrbeast
0 likesah yes, cuz these are definetly ur only accusations
0 likes@ did you even watch the video
0 likesStill water + adrenaline+ those who know ☠️
1 likeMrBust
0 likesbro its cool and all but it would be better if you responded properly lmao
0 likesHi!!! MrBeast!!
0 likes@@fitherin7017 you either no one is this is reality wake up
0 likesProve that those allegations were baseless slander by giving me a ps5
0 likesbro actually said something for once
0 likesFinally you responded in some ways
0 likesBro finally responded
0 likesTHE REAL BEAST?
0 likeswoah
0 likesYou're in the thick of it, everybody knows
0 likesno fucking way
0 likes😭
0 likesGive me everything you took from me
0 likesInaccurate. Not baseless
2 likesYou are a horrible piece of shit who paid him. Pedo. You are trying to be a mordern Goebbels. You clout addicted brain probably doesn't even know him. This comment was probably made by an intern anyway.
0 likesHow much did you pay him?
2 likesThe fact you commented on this makes me believe you
0 likesMr based
0 likesmr beast
0 likesA truthful video but at this point Jimmy is just a mascot to a shitty company. There’s no point of defending him or even trying to ruin his career. Even if his career was ruined, I’m sure the company would just find a new way to still make profit.
1 likeEveryone involved in this drama are just fighting an uphill battle at this point.
I see dead people
0 likesYou still should respond, Jimmy. It would be best for your reputation.
2 likesHUH?!
1 like@@volkankoyuncu8142i mean most the very serious accusations like hiring former sex pred are out the way it’s just now the lottery that’s illegal chris tyson and maybe jake waddle plus that lawsuit but now that’s it
0 likesRespond to the allegations jimmy
1 likethe what
0 likes@@oxfordufrom the screen to the ring to the pen to the king🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
1 likeVery surprised to see MrBeast actually respond here
1 likeIs that Mr beast? Holy, moly, guacamole. Chipotle goalies..
1 likeUh
0 likesCool now give your crypto wallet to coffeezilla if you want to be truly innocent
0 likesYou’re still a bastard
0 likesHi mrbeast
0 likeswtf is happening
0 likesMrBreast after finding his first glazer after all the "allegations"
6 likesmr breast give me money
0 likesYou are off the hook, congrats.
0 likesDayum
0 likesMy guy, this video just proved that you're not a completely horrible person, just a pretty horrible person, that's still not something to be proud of.
4 likesAin’t no way you’re here bro 😭😭😭😭😭
0 likeshi jimmy
0 likesmr breast give me money
0 likesHonestly must be nice to finally have a good defense. Of course, your not fully free yet, but i believe you will fix that soon enough.
0 likeslmao was this comment authorized by management?
2 likesW mrbeast first time i see u comment too but ngl u did some bad things too, just not as much as mfers portray
0 likesYeah that's nice and all where the video that you should have put out by now talking about all of these allegations other people shouldn't be talking on your behalf
1 likeYou actually (sorta) addressed the allegations, when will you truly respond?
0 likesWhat the fuck
0 likes@@MrBeast mr beast vakeel hain
0 likes@@MrBeast neeche dekho Mr beast karate kar rahe hai
0 likes@@MrBeast mr beast chawal kha rahe hain
0 likes@@MrBeast mr beast chawal
0 likes...
0 likesMr beast rizz
0 likesyou're in the thick of it, everybody knows
3 likesHow about you respond to the crypto and mold stuff
4 likesYou have time to reply here rather than alligations💀
6 likesRespond to all the stuff that’s true
3 likesr/woosh
2 likesBros actin like hes any better
3 likesHUH
0 likesEXCUSE ME
the slop thickens
bro thinks he’s on the team
3 likesSo is this as much of a reply as we're gonna get?
3 likes@ Doggy’s lies lmao 😜 🤣
0 likesThe beast responded
1 likefrom the man himself
0 likesUr not innocent lol but u ain’t guilty 100% respond to the allegations lil bro
4 likesNo way, ong, you finally responded kinda, I’m glad most of the stuff is wrong man!
1 likeYou hired this guy that's why you are here? lol
6 likesYou’re still evil and taking advantage of countless of people. This isnt a win Jimmy
6 likestbh i feel it would be better to remain silent because of how complex this is getting
2 likesWHAAAT
0 likesyou got time to respond to this video but cant address the allegations?
7 likesJimmy! you did forget me lol (me too exposed dogpack404 before)
2 likesWe are on your side, we do not believe those who lie to humiliate you and denigrate you all over the world, we are aware of the games played on you. Remember, your fans who truly love and know you will not believe dogpack404 and they, your critics will not be brainwashed against you :DDD
Hello
0 likesSome may think you're good but other still think you as bad person. Maybe... you're not a good person either.
3 likesFinally MrBeast actually comments on one of these videos!
0 likesDon't act like a Messiah, You aren't perfect
0 likesHi
0 likesWhy only 600 likes
1 likeYou're still a complete asshole
0 likesITS THE ACTUAL BEAST
0 likesI knew Dogpack404 was lying all along!
0 likesOho, no buddy, ur still not in the clear just 'cause Cereal detected Doggy's lies. You still need to respond to the allegations urself :)
2 likesMist or beast?
2 likesW
0 likesNo one even saw bros comment
0 likesThis cannot be real at this point 💀🙏
3 likesYo even Soggy thinks you did some bad stuff bruh
3 likesHello jimmy
0 likesBROS ACTUALLY HERE AS WELL
0 likesyet u still suck ass
0 likes@@beastshort6000jimmy knew about Ava Chris Tyson. Yeah no
2 likesPDF alert
3 likesyou are not a good person little bro
0 likesKeep telling yourself that Jimmy
3 likesi have no idea really whats happening but it is risky to comment here bruh
3 likesomg
0 likesWhy didn't you say something about them if they were wrong?
4 likes@MrBeast Yoooo
0 likesLunchly is moldy bro
1 likehello
0 likesdelete this comment dumbass
0 likesok
0 likesMrbeast we still dont like you, you completely alienated your orginal fanbase, lied about making a response to dogpack, faked numerous videos, you sold out, and you are best friends with a pedophile...
0 likesYou know that doesn't excuse the things you are guilty of doing right?
2 likesHey jimmy, if it was this easy to disprove then why didn’t YOU do it?
6 likeswow, never would have thought to see you here.
0 likesJimmy💀
0 likesBro why tf are you commenting
0 likesI like my cheese moldy bruh 😔😔😔🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️
1 likeI hope you can get better................
1 likeOh wow its the real one
0 likesBro thinks he’s innocent 😭
4 likeshiii beasty boyyy
0 likesWow he’s here
0 likes@@fitherin7017 maybe but not as bad as people show him to be
0 likesDude, we know you’re not a good person
3 likesWas not expecting you in the comments!
0 likesI'll be honest your comment makes soggy_cereal look suspicious, like he worked with you or something of the sorts
5 likesWait what this guy’s here lol
0 likesNO WAY
0 likesYour days are numbered, Jimmy. I hope you know that, and you leaving a comment on this video only makes you look more shady than you already are.
4 likesWhy are you not responding to DP himself instead of having guys like soggy and stucky do it for you?
ew
2 likesRespond to beast games lil bro
2 likesWhy is this not the top comment?
0 likeswtf
1 likeUr not perfect, but ur not satan
1 likeyou're not a good person either.
3 likesJimmy 💀
1 likeno fucking way
0 likesyou aren't exactly in the clear yet, jimmy.
2 likesDamn,
0 likesDidn't expect to see Mr Beast 😊
I hope you actually drop a response and apology for some other stuff
0 likesthat's really all i want man
miterbes plz fee money
0 likeslol now you comment? But still nothing about hiring seggs pred a tors
0 likesWhy wait for this video to respond to the situation tho?
4 likesMrbeast!!!!!!
0 likes@@flame9937I'm willing to bet he's gonna delete this comment.
1 likeyo what is this first official mrbeast response to the whole thing
0 likes@@SeedSeed
0 likes@@thaariqbinaziz2821 his lawyers advised him to stay quiet they already debunked everything in an investigation that will get the investigators, the biggest american firm shut down if they lie
0 likeshello jim
1 likeWe still expect a responds from you beast boy
0 likesnot really baseless
2 likesYOOOO????
0 likes💀
0 likescan't believe people were just blindly believing everything just for the sake of drama, but now when more people can see the truth and think for themselves once, it's less depressing
0 likes@@saltycriticWho’s we?
0 likes@@fitherin7017Proof?
0 likesDogpack is down, Rosanna is down, you’re doing good
1 likeDang
0 likesMr. Teeth!!
0 likesYooo
0 likesYou clearly paid off Soggy Cereal!
5 likesMRBEAST YOU GO, YOU ARE STILL THE PERSON THAT DID CHARITY, THEY ARE FINDING EXCUSES, KEEP UP THE GRIND BRO 💪
3 likes@@Rayx_M He responded via the document you clown, you need to take the drama all in one, instead of making seperate statements for each one 😂😂
0 likesYou are not in the clear yet bro 💀
3 likes@@saltycritic "diddy" giddy 💀☠
0 likesDid you watch the video?
0 likesbro was really waiting for this
0 likesNo shlt
0 likesCoffezilla...
0 likes@@thaariqbinaziz2821these are 90%
0 likes@@Sweepadelicacope more
0 likesFirstly.. a lot of that slander ain't baseless.. When Coffeezilla makes a vid about you man, and his words are I quote "What you're doing is bad, you shouldn't do that" when he tries his best to use nonbiased language usually, it should be your time to sit and reflect. Secondly, yes.. Dogpack has some bones here and neither of you are perfect either... Oompaville is saying it best..all of you are both bad people, and neither of you deserve to act like you're God's Given Savior. We don't even have proof that you haven't paid these guys off. Baseless slander my ass. Look.. I am FULLY willing to hope that a lot of your 'good deeds' were genuinely done with great intentions and weren't fake. But commenting THAT here.. is tone deaf. You're working with Logan Paul goddamnit. You're working with the guy whose entire thing is "Everyone hates him". Read the room. Your fans will defend you, and they're perfectly allowed to.. but don't think that just cause your accuser is a bad person that two wrongs make a right. Dogpack didn't hurt your philantropic work like that guy said in the interview. YOU did.. by giving him legit content to hurt you with. A guy can't shoot you with a shotgun if it ain't loaded, no matter who he is. You gave him the bullets man.
9 likesI'm personally praying for you since you are a big influence on my students and my family. We all are, we're praying that you reflect on what you've done. Your channel isn't done, it won't be- you're too powerful we all know that, and kids are dumb. What happens now, how you choose to live your life is up to you entirely, I can only hope that morals are stronger than cash. I don't think its likely for you, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
@fitherin7017 he's not perfect but he has done more good things in a week then you can in your entire lifespand
0 likesSooo, you're breaking your silent when someone defending your butt...
4 likesBut exposing the liars of an ancient employee doesn't solve the rest (and sorry but there is some Dog's accusations that's not solved either)
You have some serious allegations against you, many shady things, needing answers and explanations...
And... You comment here, so you are watching things that people are saying about you, strange, very strange, why watching if you KNOW you are crystal clear hum? And strange you comment on someone defending you... Like this video needs a validation for you credibility... Or maybe there is something else... I wonder if someone can get be paid to defend a person... Like a lawyer but for the public opinion... Hummm🤔
HE RESPONDED! YEAHHHH
0 likesYour main opponent is busted. But there are more than just that. Get strapped because this isn't the end yet.
0 likesrespond bro
2 likesYello
0 likesno ratio aww man
0 likes@ he paid a team to investigate him and they told him to not say anything about during the investigation
1 likehe posted their results on twitter, as soggy showed
woah seriously now? Where were you when everything was happening? Regardless of slander, i just want to know what made you think it would be good to stay silent?
1 likefor reals man
0 likesWell, at least he took a break from poisoning children to write this comment.
0 likesI’m pretty sure that any other YouTuber would pin this comment. This just shows how much better soggy cereal is
0 likesYeah you paid the guy you devil
0 likesHello
0 likesOh, hello Jimmy!
1 likeTitle your response video “I Employed Dogpack404, he’s a Fraud”
0 likesE
0 likesPeople on Reddit really don’t like this comment lmao
0 likesayo what the fuck
1 likeLeaving this here to find this comment again later, wild to be breaking your silence about this topic by responding to this video in particular 💀
2 likes@@OjZemljoSveta there’s nothing wrong with being a crypto supporter
0 likeswait i tought you were fake
0 likesNo way this is actual mrbeast
0 likesMrbeast
0 likesYeah, disheartening how easily people are manipulated.
0 likesmeow
0 likesYou really should still do a video/text where you cover everything up
0 likesYou're not off the hook beast
5 likes@@arielperez3613 Why would he respond when he has guys like soggy to do it for him?
0 likes@@homoaspien Dude, he's paying soggy.
0 likesfunfact: this can be classified as mrbeasts response
1 likeu didn't watch the full video did u.
3 likesOh wait this is the actual account 💀
1 likeohio
0 likesYou know there are other employees that are not Dogpack404 that also accused you of serious stuff and that you are a crypto supporter?
5 likesDidn't actually think this was the real MrBeast at first
1 like@@TheDiamondCore He won't.
0 likesResponding to one of your biggest meat gobblers, nothing suspicious about that!...
0 likesDogpack 404, he is up to something more,
1 likeScheming and deceiving, it's fraud to the core.
Watch out for his tricks, don't fall for his lore,
Dogpack 404, always looking to score.
then why do you sell over processed foods that have mold in them to kids without researching and getting it FDA approved.
5 likesThe least liked mrleast comment
1 likemrbeast donated 1 dollar and 99 cents through superchat
3 likesalso hii mrbeast gl with the allegations
Because you PAID for this video Mr James Donaldson, you BEAST.
3 likes@@fitherin7017 key word baseless
0 likesSo will you ever address the accusations?
7 likesHi MrBeast 🎉🎉
1 likeWhy is this comment not pinned?
0 likesWhen you were in Chris Tyson's discord, did you notice any of the grooming going on in it?
4 likesAlso you could have responded to the allegations and saved 4 months of heck from your channel because most were false
6 likesFinally bro responded 😂
0 likesGlad to know that you're in the clear, well mostly. Maybe try not to get into potential crypto scams and do something about the Beast Games allegations and be more transparent.
2 likesHuh. You are just here now
1 likeok what the fuck why is mrbeast here
1 likeBro seriously you need to respond even if dogpack got called out, like the beast games alligation.
6 likes@@fitherin7017 Whether if someone is good or bad is subjective, however, a simple idiom; “A lion doesn't concern itself with the opinion of sheep.”
1 likeRespond to the alleged crypto scams that you "did not" do
5 likesI do think you need to talk about the Crypto scams .
4 likesYour still not a good person
6 likesYou aint good either
6 likes@@MrBeast YAB
0 likesholy fucking shit
0 likesYeah that's cool, at least for now. Once you address the coffeezilla, all your accusations is clear.
6 likesAlso stop collabing with Logan, you already better without him.
even if your groupchat stuff was real and like you said that stuff, it doesnt matter: IT WAS A GC!
1 like;o
2 likesthe beast?
1 likedid not expect to find you here
0 likes@@agentwesker5237soggy literally said lunchly is shit at the beginning of the video bro
0 likesI’ve lost all respect for you Jimmy.
5 likes@@homoaspienmaybe in the future like how he stopped beast burger
1 likeIn his defence. The people with moldy cheese probs ordered lunchly and left it out in the sun whuch would cause mold ngl@@arielperez3613
0 likesYoutuber? More like a businessman
4 likeshang on, a mrbeast comment that isn't immediately filled with like 700 replies?
0 likes@@iceycones654its definitely not him theres no way
2 likesBro what are you doing here? 😭😭🙏🙏
1 like@@AdrianSlashShinI think it was Mr. Beast who wrote this, since it is still up, and he would have deleted the comment by now if it was some intern. He might delete it to hide the backlash in the replies.
0 likes@@Shanisgreat all crypto is a scam
0 likesLooks like someone's gonna get fired for this
0 likesAint no way?????
0 likes@@Rayx_M THIS
1 likeJust because some things are not true doesn't change the fact that you still did awful things.
12 likes@@shadowelza1923 Not only suspicious it almost a confirmation that this video is DogPack slander and Soggy is a controlled opp
0 likesyab
0 likesNow it's official that Soggy Cereal is a controlled opposition. Thank you for confirming that
0 likesyou still sus with the crypto
4 likesNever expected to see a MrBeast comment with a low amount of likes in a long time.
1 likeyou're not off the hook yet, buddy
6 likesJimmy… how do you like your cheese?
3 likes@@EnterMCShortshi Enter
0 likesDidn't expect this
0 likesYou respond to this ,yet didnt respond to the 90% allegations......
11 likesSeeing a MrBeast comment with so few likes seems wrong.
1 likejust put the lunchly in the bag bro
5 likesholy shit
0 likesThanks for all that you do Jimmy. We appreciate the generosity that you show, and it’s very sad to see what you’ve had to deal with these past few months because of all these lies.
4 likesCrazy how he solely responds to this video and not the hundreds calling him out for being an awful person. This video wasn't even making him seem like a good guy, either, it was just calling Dogpack out. Jimmy is in desperate need of consequences
18 likesyou need to make a response especially to the crypto stuff
2 likesYou could have just addressed it yourself if it was this easy to disprove. I feel something is fishy
7 likesjust because dogpack sucks doesn't mean you also suck too lol
7 likesoh shit... wasn't expecting this...
1 likeOh shut up.
5 likesThis comment just makes this video a whole lot more suspicious, your lawyers are gonna be pissed at you for making this comment lmao “okay we got an unofficial looking video response, now don’t fuck it up’ bro proceeds to fuck it up
26 likesYAB
0 likes@@destinysoblivion3268Defamation lawsuits aren’t easy to prove ESPECIALLY if it’s against multiple people. Since MrBeast is a public figure it’s going to be even harder for him to win. There’s a reason why he hasn’t done it yet
1 likeMRBEAST!
0 likesThat tends to happen when you fly someone overseas and pay them to ask curated questions about profit-inhibiting allegations.
1 likeclown
0 likesOh my god your PR team is shitting bricks right now
6 likesYep, Now please make a response debunking the rest of the allegations, so if you’re innocent, the dust can be settled.
18 likesSo you respond to this video but nothing else? Just prove your innocence. It is all everyone wants
12 likesHey Mr "Jimmy" Beast, just letting you know that Crypto Scam is still a thing and you need to address that ASAP. Just watch Coffeezilla latest video (also at the end of the this video lol) and just address this because that's not a good thing. Thank you
23 likesso why dont you respond buddy
7 likesStay strong Mrbeast 😳😳
2 likesYAB
1 likeOMG HI MR BEASY 😛😛
1 likeBro acting like he's a good person 😂 You're lucky you have an audience of nieve children that you love to exploit.
0 likes@@GraduallyLosingMySanityit’s so obvious
0 likesthat’s generally what happens when you pay off the video creator
9 likesOh man, a video he supports! I wonder if I should trust it!
21 likeshello no mr beast omg
0 likesBro you need to either signal boost this video and/or make your own proper response video clearing everything up, this is dragging on too long
9 likesJimmy give me money
1 likewhat will happen next in the Beast series
0 likes@@DeliciousWingEasier said than done tho
2 likesCuz let’s be fr: Just because everyone stopped talking about it doesn’t necessarily mean most ppl are ready and willing to hear what MrBeast himself has to say about the allegations that are true, at least for right now, and even if he were to debunk everything, it would be like the Dream situation where ppl will try to claim he lied about a lot of things; Simply put: Now might not be the time for him
Edit: I understand tho that he should rn, and I 100% agree (just putting it out there for all the ppl that might claim that I’m trying to defend MrBeast in any way, and I’m not) but realistically speaking, this is a fire against MrBeast that may be too big for him to try to put out at least for right now.
@@metaverse6013 fr who logged into bros account 😭
2 likesYou should know not to celebrate prematurely, Jimbo. Your reputation is still in shambles!
40 likesSomeone’s getting fired
22 likesYou’re not exactly off the hook just yet tho buddy. Still a little bit of other things that you absolutely CAN respond to
12 likesI’m gonna leave this comment here before there’s 500 replies because YouTube’s golden boy commented on a random YouTubers video
8 likesYou're not off the hook yet buddy. Don't celebrate yet.
43 likesYo
0 likesyo
0 likesMr beast I never doubted you can I have 10 grand
6 likesLmfao the amount of yt content on this drama thats about to drop tmrw will be insane. Anyways dogpack is a liar (i had a feeling about this from the start with how he twisted things and how he put out baseless allegations not willing to do full research) but ypu still have to answer for the crypto things and etc
7 likesLook jimmy we can't fully trust you just yet so let's take everything one step at a time let's see how this all unfolds
5 likesIT THE MAN HIMSELF 🤯
1 like@@MrBeast YAB
5 likesI always believe in you and I will continue to believe in you. No matter what anyone says, I will always support you! Jimmy, I love you so much. ❤
5 likesWoah
0 likesBad move breaking silence here man wow
82 likesFunny
2 likesIf you're seeing this, sue Rosanna, Jake, and DogPack into Oblivion.
17 likesYou may be legit innocent of a lot of the bullshit Dawson threw at you but you still have shit to adress (crypto shit Coffeezilla talked about, the Kris Tyson Shadman Poster thing, etc.) man up and do it yourself soon dawg.
0 likesMake a response video. Then sue the fuck outta Dogpack, Rosanna, Weddle and etc
1 likeNow’s your time to actually make a proper video on your channel against Rosanna and dogpack and take responsibility for anything wrong you’ve actually done
23 likes@@kylecaster1016 You guys keep changing the goalpost man. “Respond to this allegation” then that one gets debunked and then you just move on to the next one and the next one it is an infinite cycle. The cryptocurrency allegations just came out give him some time to process it before he responds to it. (or someone else debunks it)
1 likenah
7 likesSo does this mean you’re gonna drop out of Lunchly, be more transparent, and stop working with Logan Paul? Three excellent points Soggy made in this video that I hope you consider!
38 likes🔥🤧🧡🤣👀😁🥺⚡😴🤫☠️👍🏻🌚👉🏻⏬🖤🤍😭😂☹️😤😑😡😘🔻👌🏻💀👌🏻🧼😞😅🎉🎉🙏🏻🌑👑❌
2 likesYAB
2 likesJust because some of the allegations were supposedly debunked does not mean you are free of blame. Respond to Coffeezilla. Respond to the remaining important allegations.
86 likes@@oxforduoh shit is that oxfordu!!! 👊🏼
1 likeit wouldve been better if you responded
12 likesI think the time's come to respond to the shit that people have been asking completely reasonable questions about. A massive, well-researched video clearing the air of unverified and ridiculous allegations has been published, people are realizing that a large portion of the shit levied against you was either false or overblown (Dogpack's been exposed to be ~3/36 on his allegations), and all that remains are things that need answers. Things like the crypto wallets referenced in Coffeezilla's video, Ava Kris Tyson with the Shadman stuff, Delaware, the Beast Games, and Illegal Lottery #1 (to quote the video).
4 likesWhile many people on the internet, myself included, defended you from the BS Dogpack and Rosanna propogated, there's still a lot of stuff that ranges from incredibly irresponsible to potential criminality which demands answers. The next few days would probably the best chance you'll get to respond now that the smoke's starting to clear.
TALK ABOUT THE CRYPTO STUFF
10 likesyou what
0 likesmrbeast
1 like@@volkankoyuncu8142True, just odd he commented here. He stayed silent though the whole thing. Until now.
3 likes@@shadowelza1923 We don’t know that yet. Just because he commented on a video doesn’t mean he’s not gonna make a response about it. We’ll have to wait and see.
8 likesMr Beast, Is that you?
0 likes@@saltycritic I think most of it has been solved:
0 likesHe didn’t know about Ava (he knew she was into some weird stuff but he didn’t know the extent of it, especially about the inst gram) which is the worst of it.
The mold is probably because it just got launched and it will fix itself with better packaging.
He couldn’t just stop the recent video for this drama he got hundreds of workers that he needed to pay.
His collaboration with Logan isn’t directed as a bad thing more of an opinion. (If you think he has redeemed himself over the past couple of years) which Mr. Beast thinks he has.
All of cryptocurrency is a scam to be fair.
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1 likeStill doesn’t make you a saint you fraud. Why reply to this in specific and not the crypto.
2 likes@@GraduallyLosingMySanityAnd he responded to this video and nothing else. Quite suspicious
32 likesYAB
2 likes@@fitherin7017 we know, but spreading untrue information about him which delegates actual information about him is harmful. He is allowed to feel relief that more people are giving him grace.
0 likesWould you also care to respond to the crypto investigation and your constant affiliation with Logan? Birds of a feather flock together after all...
87 likes@@eternal8723 fr yeah
0 likesAnd your PR team, Chucky, and your lawyers couldn't handle this because?
52 likesDid the channel get hacked cause theres no way
25 likesSo are you going to respond to the crypto allegations and moldy cheese 🙃
152 likesYAB
3 likesyab
3 likesYAB
6 likesYAB
3 likesRatio.
131 likesI have a hunch that you helped Soggy with this in order to get some of the heat off your back. But that is just me
5 likesAlso very strange that you refused to defend yourself but you appear in the comments of Soggy's vid
I think we can all agree that Dogpack isn't clean, but neither are you. So wipe that smirk of yo face Mr Donaldson
No no no this isn't real i refuse to believe it
16 likesRatio.
34 likesrespond to coffeezilla
164 likes@@Rayx_M nah he can because he’s the goat
7 likesWassup Jimbo 🫡
5 likesYou havent even responded still💀, you can’t wait for other people like Soggy cereal to make you seem less worse when you still do, all it takes is either a response defending yourself, from YOU. Or admitting all the true allegations and let this dumb ass YT drama end just like that.
275 likesrespond to Coffeezilla mf
5 likesYoooo???
5 likesHi Mr Beast
30 likes“Your in the thick of it everybody knows” comment is sending me. Both people are scummy here.
70 likesNo way - you finally responded (kinda) and ofc it is on Soggy's vid exposing 404 😭 wtf
368 likesAnyways, let's not get all diddy giddy with ourselves now. You still need to talk about you being aware of Ava, Coffeezilla, your recent videos, not mentioning Lunchly mold, collabing with Logan in the first place, etc
Ah finally someone who didnt say my product(feastables/lunchly) tastes ass or finally someone who endorses your activity to subscribe bait millions of people for a single prize.
159 likesYou are a multi billion dollar brand now you are not one person though I doubt this is even you commenting jimmy but someone from your team.
Hey, you’re not exactly out of the woods just yet lol. But gotta admit, it’s kinda good to have you back.. kinda good.
281 likesI was not expecting you to be here lol
102 likesgg@@NexxZ4
2 likeswoah
40 likesWow commenting here
74 likesOf all comments sections (related to this topic), I never expected to find you here
309 likesYou're not a good person either.
1986 likescrazy@@oxfordu
0 likesyou're in the thick of it, everybody knows...
1066 likesfirst and yeah I agree about the slander stuff
121 likesThe Mrbeast drama is giving me trust issues man😭
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@@pixelcreepie9724 Even if dogpack is 100% wrong,Mrbeast being exposed by coffeezilla him admitting to partaking in crpytos with logan, his best friend being a pedo, Him being heavily lawyered up and saying nothing to defend himself on his twitter.This vid doesent make soggy or mrbeast a saint, It's the whole oh the exposer is a good person credibility from us thinkin dogpack is a good guy to now soggy is a good guy. matter of fact is none of them are.
1 like@agentwesker5237 yeah but still. Almost every Week someone i liked gets exposed for either diddling kids or just being a bad Person. And then when i think "i can definitely trust this Person, they spoke out against, and exposed, the bad Person" but then something like this happens and i actually have to realize that i can trust nobody
0 likesThats why you gotta don't take stuff like this crap to heart, its public shady influencer drama which we got nothing to do with.
3 likesRuneScape music in the background is a nice touch
0 likesYou're just a Mr Beast glazer
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And your just a dogpack glazzer
8 likesragebait used to be good.
8 likesbruh no
16 likesNICE VIDEO
2 likesAn hour and a half soggy cereal video? I used to pray for times like this
2 likesNow I can watch $1 thing I will never buy vs $1 million thing I will never afford.
0 likesI fall victim to just regurgitating whatever I hear online sometimes so thank you for making this video to widen the scope of knowledge for us brainrotted indivuals!!
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respect for being honest
0 likesIve been waiting for a video like this for so long 😭😭
4 likesThis video is a W
1 likeI love this video! Thank you for the in-depth review. I truly wish dogpack / rosana get sued out of their minds
2 likesnow we wait to see if soggy cereal is actually a disgruntled employee that used to work for dogpack....
1 like43:58 Scorecard is cut off here. Pesticides is yellow. The text cuts off information, that may be used for consideration in comparison to other companies practices.
1 like47:39 True accusation is partially obscured. The accusation isnt related to the current section, just something i noticed. 50:27 Further, it is nearly fully obscured here. Note that it only appears like this for a moment.
52:11 As far as im aware, Dogpack isnt necessarily saying that he wants the contestants with covid to participate.
Note that at 53:58 dislikes are estimates added by extensions.
Overall very minor things.
I am sure MrBeas loves looking into your eyes while you are giving him a proper gobbler
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maybe try growing tf up? could help
0 likesthere there, dry those tears, I know it can be hard to find out you were offered lies and ate them up without hesitation
0 likessee an obnoxious mongoloid split hairs for 90 minutes
2 likesthere I fixed the video title, not much truth to be found here however
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@@_evaded_ He can't handle the truth; it hurts his ego more than anything else in his life.
1 like@@_evaded_ He's just mad that this whole video inadvertently proved him and everyone else who found Jimmy guilty until proven innocent a fool, even if that wasn't the video's intention
0 likesWhat isn't true, what is your evidence? I'll believe you if you can tell me.
7 likesI, for some reason, believed him but you did a great job with this and also reminded all to check all sides before judging!
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@@LX1 Fair enough, respect for being honest
1 like@@Queef_Storm yea no im older…i prefer not to speak without my lawyer at this point…
2 likesJokes a side, it happens at all ages and yes if you are younger, then its normal to jump the gun. I was just always a bit sceptical about mr beast and then dogpack did kinda „confirm“ that i was right and so i thought its „real“.
BUT after the 3. video of him, i also started to realize some things are getting weird and especially since he started to show up on some other creators videos, he seemed so self focused.
Genuine question: how old are you? I have suspected for some time that most of the people who believed DogPack were high school age or younger and are new to false allegations
0 likesholy shit dude i cant trust anything anymore
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@@Queef_Storm i am pretty stupid and tend to trust stuff quickly man
0 likesor just wait until you hear both sides of the story first?
2 likesI like how you are basically Dogpack404's polar opposite. It is not a bad thing, It is something we all needed.
5 likesYou come off as a huge MrBeast fanboy.
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"what? I was fooled? No, no it must be this guy that's the problem, not me!"
0 likesyou come off as so narcissistic that anyone who even suggests you were wrong about something you will go on the offensive against and just hurl insults instead of actually addressing their argument
0 likesthe first time i am happy to get a mid roll add lmao GOOD WORK SOGGY
2 likesI wanna know Kavernacle's and BadEmpanada's thoughts on this, this video overall is decent but Soggy made so many flaws here.
1 likeThings get crazier and crazier as time goes on
0 likesAnd to think people almost actually gave him the benefit of the doubt on that first video.
0 likesThe DogPack404 situation is crazy
0 likesno way this is only 130k views.
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@@Queef_Storm you mean clickbaiting
0 likesHe needs to repackage the video. Currently it looks like just a regular drama video and not the huge expose it really is
1 likeSome people are just biased after 10–15 minutes of watching and come to the conclusion that Soggy is just a glazer/dckrider. It's kind of hypocritical when they have no problem watching 2+ hours of Dogpack videos. There are plenty of those in the comments, if you've noticed.
1 liketheres like 2 good points in this video and the rest of it is pathetic dickriding
2 likesoh no!! he violated mr beasts nda?? sooo evil.. waow... keep licking the boot of the billionaire grifter
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DogPack's nut is suddenly tasting real sour now, isn't it? Keep guzzling though. Easier than having the guts to admit you were wrong about someone
0 likessoooo, do we apoligize to beast now orrrrrrr?
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@@arielperez3613 Which we still haven't heard his side of the story of. Are we going to find him innocent until proven guilty again? It's like people have learned nothing.
0 likesNo because he isn’t innocent of everything. Plus there’s new allegations of him being involved in shady crypto
5 likesThis teaches us that you should never just trust people/things blindly (same goes for this video itself)
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I'm guessing this applies to government, rebellion, militants, monarchy, and biblical figures (like Jesus). A true atheist's or nihilist's worldview to live by, right?
0 likesDawson shows no proof and everyone believes him. Soggy shows actual proof over a dozen times and everyone's like "weeelll, he could be lying, best not to believe him"
0 likesReally good video. This is so much more well researched and organized than dog packs video
1 likeShould have never trusted a person with their surname with "Fr*nch" in it....
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He might run away when he's exposed, so no surprise there.
0 likesThe word “Allegations” will always bring me back to this time in internet history
0 likesDid you just call the Despicable Me movies Minions?! (Nice video)
0 likesGreat work man! 2 wrongs don't make a right.
3 likesYou also didn’t mention his weird transgender conspiracy theories
1 likeDog Pack read the rest of the no doesn't mean no part. It goes on to say keep calling back and goves and example of Dollar Tree it says to call over and over and hopefully you'll get a fan over and hour in and its been nothing but simping for Mr Beast. Explain him knowing for years about AK long before he came out, the crypto scams just alot can't be explained away but its obvious its gonna all get pinned on the ped and "poooor mr beast" will be the story in a year
1 like14:10 did the dvd logo actually hit the corner?
3 likesWell he might say it as a joke but it is considered war crime under Geneva convention, this video is like I don't defend Jimmy while actually wiping Jimmy shitty ass
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@@JulieWooly-pn6tx one unarguable point still isn't enough to say all of the vid is glazing
0 likes@@Oboltus55 It's not even an arguable point, at 13:43 the text on screen even disproves that it's a warcrime
2 likesOne arguable point - all video is glazing
1 likeu got room temp iq
dont care, where's my cookies :<?
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🍪, you want some 🥛with it?
0 likes🍪
0 likeswell i already hated mr beast, i dint need any 10 hour vid drama. Mr beast is a shitty person (my opinion from his content, long before the exposure). if he makes more people hate on this ass then its a win to my book
1 likeTHE $1M DETECTIVE HAS RETURNED
0 likesSomeone who actually looks into information 1st before believing them? That’s unique on YouTube nowadays 😂 great vid
2 likesDamn I am so disappointed in my self that I believe in dog packs video. You truly open my eyes to misleading information
3 likesWell done video!
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Only thing i don't agree with: it doesn't devalue the signature if. I mean it does? Imagine getting an autograph from Michael Jackson and you find out he isn't the one that signed it, that value now DROPPED a lot.
0 likesAnd the whole Rosanna stuff just felt like 2 hating Jimmy so reaching as much as they could do discredit Jimmy, even though i am not a fan of Jimmy's main channel stuff, geck highly dislike this fake personality stuff and the over acting, those 2 felt like such an act.
1 likeDogpack404’s empire is CRUMBLING… (NOT CLICKBAIT) (FINALLY OVER) (GONE SEXUAL) (GOT RAPED)
1 likeI think we just witnessed a murder holy shit RIP dogpack
4 likesChat it is official, the MrBeast situation is not crazy.
6 likesYou have to be kidding me you are STILL defending Mr Beast
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Have a good cry and a nap. You'll feel better afterwards.
0 likes@zuglymonster "Not pointing out all the bad stuff"
0 likesLol, he criticized his scummy second lottery, along with his at the time alleged crypto history, I don't know how is he a glazer.
@@lott1e well hes not pointing out any of the bad stuff its all "dog pack sucks" both can be true. I would like a video from an unbiased source. not a fan or someone with a grudge because for example, no where in here does he touch how much they knew about AK years prior
1 likeHave you even watched the video pal?
7 likesHe’s not defending him lol
9 likesBeen waiting for this one
0 likesA youtube shitshow
1 likeGonna hear this drama for a year from now on.
Can’t wait for slop channels to feed off of this. Otherwise awesome video man, it was about time someone fact checked him
3 likesWe're finally getting to see MrBeast getting James Charlesed.
0 likes31:06 what I find weird (and cringe) is the fact thah Rossana's channel is about COOKING . But now, shes talking about MrBeast!!?? 😅
1 likeMan, influencers would do any sneaky sh1t for views and ad revenue money only add another zero to their already full bank account.
Back in my day, people BUSTED THEIR A$$ES FOR MONEY. Nowadays, its all just INTERNET CLOUT.
42:40 Agree 110% with this. People need to realise this. The fact that you debunk all Dogpack said in his videos, doesnt necesarelly means that you lick MrBeast's b4lls. But, sadly, many people in here would do exactly that 🤦🤦
Still... c'mon man. You didnt say NOT ONE SINGLE thing about MrBeast?? You know how that looks, right?
43:13 Right. Imo, it seems veeeeery hard acchieving a billionaire status without doing something illegal and/or unethical in the way..
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From a wholesome baker who made sweet cake/cookie/cupcake for children
0 likesTo a bakery who sell inappropriate feet/CP/misinfo to young adult.
Quite the evolution of Rosanna Pansino.
Tbf Ro started talking on it because of what happened to her personally but dogpack just fueled the candle sized flame to a bonfire
1 like32:40 imagine claiming something from one message and not giving the full context….
0 likesEveryone has faults and mistakes. There is no hero or villain. It can all change and can twist and bend and curve in unpredictable turns, as the future beacomes more and more uncertain yet stabilized. You can’t predict every atom in motion, either by heat or by push. Especially not when a majority, including you and me, let others slightly push opinions only to be mostly forgotten by a stolid mind.
3 likesthats why mr beast the goat!
3 likesDepends what state you live in, if there’s one party consent laws
0 likesEvery minute of this video is a complete waste, expected some good food after 3 months.
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Don't be too upset, little buddy. I know it can be hard to find out you were fooled and how gullible you really are but it's best to learn from it instead of crying.
0 likesPlease drop the FULL Termination Audio
1 like"The dogpack404 and Mr.Beast situation is crazy!"
2 likesthis is crazy
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This is crazy
0 likesthis is crazy
1 likethis is crazy
1 likeNever trust DogPack!
2 likesMan, I wanted to watch the whole video and see which part is good and which part is piss poor. And less then half way through I give up. You did better than most other by doing research. But your arguments are so poor and contrived that you are essentially on the same level as dogpack. It will just rot my brain to watch the rest. MrBeast, Dogpack and now this guy, all incompetent kids with zero skill in life who got lucky on this platform.
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You mean by half way you had been shown so much proof that you were wrong and had been fooled that your ego couldn't take it anymore and the story you tell yourself to cope with that is "I'm not the problem, other people are!" Good luck with third grade next year. Learning your times tables can be tough.
0 likesHow is his on the same level?
0 likesA whole 3 months of beliefs just crumbled in a mater of 1,5 hours 🙈. I’m truly embarrassed to have believed the dog guy so blindly. Note for next time: fact check EVERYTHING😵💫.
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do not make the same mistake again by making some arbitrary exception for this video, sounds like you are now going to be blindly believing soggy
0 likesOng people really need to fact check everything always bruh
0 likesI think soggy cereal man is cool. Keep making good video thank you
3 likesThe fact that multiple former employees were enthusiastically willing to come on to an interview to trash talk Dawson is incredibly telling.
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Dogpack did use them to ruin Jimmy, and their reputation and livelihood could be affected if misinformation spreads out of control. Keep in mind, he disregarded the effect this would have on the victim's, contestant's, or employee's life, and the potential witch hunt that might occur (such as doxxing or death threats).
0 likesSo, Soggy did a good job of shedding light on all of Dogpack's lies.
Dawson is a former employee and you had no problem believing him
0 likesSomebody totally didn't get paid to fly overseas and talk to employees about these specific profit-inhibiting allegations at all once, out of the kindness of their heart.
0 likesI know this isn't the point, but that ebay listing calling a magazine from 2000 VINTAGE is crazyyyy
1 likeDamn Idubbzz really cleaned up.
0 likesI am so glad you validated my first comment on Fraudpack404's first video. I knew he was a fraudster and phony. I hope bigger eyes see this video and destroy the slop community and unfounded hate. While Mr. Beast isn't super innocent these creators have been just slandering him based on a squirrely weasel's lies.
2 likesI thought it was obvious Dogpile404 was a selfserving psycho from his first vid. About time someone made a vid like this
0 likesThis is the magnum opus of drama videos
1 likeThis feels like an ad sponsored by Mr beast
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@@lott1e Yea like im pretty sure that jimmy would want it to be like that maybe to not make it obvious maybe I'm going crazy but a lot of the video is sussy wussy
0 likesHe’s said he doesn’t support jimmy lol
2 likesHe doesn't support mrbeast either.
2 likesweve got a third party tryna clean it all up it does seem sus why not come out himself?
0 likeswhite people problems
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LMAO
0 likesW soggy
2 likesAt this point I don't know who to believe
1 likeLiteral nightmare blunt rotation
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Dogpack did use them to ruin Jimmy, and their reputation and livelihood could be affected if misinformation spreads out of control. Keep in mind, he disregarded the effect this would have on the victim's, contestant's, or employee's life, and the potential witch hunt that might occur (such as doxxing or death threats).
0 likesSo, Soggy did a good job of shedding light on all of Dogpack's lies.
Me either, because soggy also isn’t a whistleblower or journalistic genius, but mrbeast isn’t in the clear either. It’s also a little suspicious that soggy got former mrbeast employees to talk down about Dawson but mrbeast is literally their boss and they’d get financially penalized if they talked down about mrbeast so I wouldn’t trust those interviews either. It’s not just a double edged sword this is a triple edged sword. I’m just not going to associate with anyone involved in this drama
0 likesOk, the part about work chat is also weak AF. You said dogpack was dodgy for reverse search CP but also said he was incompetent for not being able to find the source. So what is it? Should he searched better or not at all? Felt like you already decided to attack dogpack so it was damned if you do damned if you don't situation for dogpack there. No matter what he did, you would have had something to attack. Also, saying it wasn't work chat but meme chat was bs. It was the COMPANY's meme chat. That's a part of work chat. We have different channels on our work chat, including a channel for non work and social stuff. That would not be a work chat in your opinion, and it would be ok to share nasty stuff? And how tf is somebody calling it edgy meme considered concrete proof that it was just edgy memes?? The dude who said it didn't want to say things too outrageous in case he got sued or attacked. You are no more rigorous than dogpack at this point. And the other people leaving the group chat is not proof of anything either. One could argue that they left because they know ava is a pdf and didn't feel comfortable staying the chat but at the same time wouldn't call her (at the time him) out. Jesus. It's painful to watch an incompetent guy criticising an incompetent guy
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I think his intent was probably just to have not included the image itself at all and just say what Ava had sent in words. I get how it seems a bit confusing but yk
0 likes"grrrr no support dogpack grrrrrr glazer grrrrr"
3 likes1:02:41 “five head” is usually used to refer to someone who has a huge forehead, at least that’s the only way I’ve seen it used personally, I’ve never seen it used in a way of calling someone smart, tho maybe that’s common and I’m just unaware of it?
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Tho it wouldn’t surprise me if he was using it in the way of calling himself smart
0 likeseventually someone will call you a fraud for a video then someone else calls them a fraud and it will devolve into a meme
6 likescriminally underviewed
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Dude needs to change the thumbnail and title ASAP. It looks like just a regular drama video in its current state. No one wants to click that.
0 likesMake sure you also talk about the other shit Mr Beast is doing; like the Crypto scams... if DogPack404 is really a liar or whatever, you dont want to make it look like "Mr Beast is the good guy here",
2 likesMr Beast with all the allegations coming out is probably indeed just like Logan Paul, just so happens another Scum "dogpack404" was the one exposing him.
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He literally said that towards the end of the video
0 likes" Check out coffezilla's video for more cause I am not into crypto"
dustin seems like a really nice person
2 likesGiving morepegasus a mansion with this video
0 likesbeen calling this a blackmail attempt for a while now nice to see it finally get some thorough criticism
0 likessome of it is true but a lot of it is definitely fake or ridiculously overexaggerated
"the plot thickens my guy!""🙏🏽
1 likeYour framing it as if jake could not have been a victim and dogpack manipulates this story and no crime was comited because he could choose to leave even tho he says it himself he felt presurde to accept and was put in a position he believed he could not say no (and your framing it in a way that degrades what he went throu because compared to war this is insignificant?), he clearly was tromatized by this "chalenge" even years after. Your warcrime debunk is no debunk.
4 likesAnd its funny how later in the video you say dogpack tried to "peer pressure" you with a text that implies you overreacted.
Sorry for the speling mistakes im no native english speaker.
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On the Jake thing: he said he can see why jake would feel that way due to mental well-being. Jake is a victim but not necessarily in the way it’s portrayed. He’s a victim of the company taking advantage of his mental health but he did have the option to leave. I’m not saying it would’ve been easy to leave, just that he could.
1 likeHe also doesn’t say no crimes were committed. He looked over some of the allegations. The video, despite the title, isn’t focused on jimmy himself. It’s focused on Dogpack404 so of course it’s going to include more of dockpacks actions than jimmy’s
Can everyone just shut up about Mr. Beast? Until I hear Mr. Beast likes to diddle kids I really dont have a single fuck to give. As far as im concearned, Mr. Beast is just another souless, money-driven opportunist, like 90% of everyone in America. Everyone is out to get him, and everyone else is controlled opposition.
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@@Queef_Storm He hates capitalism; you can tell what his beliefs are, though.
0 likesYou sure you don't care? Because it sounds like you really, really care.
0 likesbro hates everyone frfr
1 likeim so ready to watch this vid
0 likesI like my cheese moldy Bruhh
1 likeStop milking it
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Wrong video mate, this should be in MorePegasus video.
0 likesGet mad and stay mad. You slurped up Dawson's load without proof, now you're shown actual proof and you don't want any of it. Genuine question: aren't you embarrassed to be this kind of person?
0 likeshe just telling the truth
6 likesHe isn't. Cry harder.
9 likesmy life before mr beast allegations: 😐
5 likesmy life after mr beast allegations: 😐
anyway this video is fire
intro too long. boring. next video
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look for ADHD version then
0 likesNah bro, you definitely watched it and are butthurt like everyone else in this comments section. Sucks to find out that you allowed yourself to be so easily fooled, I'm sure, but maybe learn from it instead of getting a sore balloon knot about it
0 likeswhat tiktok does to brains
6 likesOh boo hoo, let me play a sad song on the worlds smallest violin.
12 likesOh idubbz… you look just as beautiful as the day I lost you
2 likesalready had a bad feeling about dogpack when he pointed out that obviously cgi explosions were cgi and how that was a bad thing for some reason and how that the subscribe for a cookie thing was actually really manipulative and not just some random joke thats been around the mr beast channel ever since the worst intros days
1 likeglad to see someone exposing the truth, thank you for all the clarifications boss
4 likesi dont rlly think that rosanna pansino and jake weddle are "maipulated" by dogpack, they both have experience with mrbeast himself and of course if dogpack threatened them to say what they did that sucks ass, but this is my opinion. im only like 10 minutes into the video
1 likeOff topic but could we talk about how good-looking Soggy is? Dude could be a model!
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Glaze
0 likesFound soggy's alternate account
0 likes2024 rewind will be crazy💀
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@hellboy9458 I don't know but it will be crazy if that happens
0 likesthey still doing that?
0 likesfr 💀💀💀
0 likesGlad I wasn’t the only one that saw through Dogpacks manipulation
3 likesOk the section of war crime joke was weak. It doesn't matter if the Justin guy was joking or not. What matters is what really happened. If Jake was forced to stay up and couldn't sleep. That was torture. Somebody joking about it being torture doesn't stop it from being torture. Jake knew it was a joke doesn't stop it from being torture either. This guy is doing exactly the same as dogpack right now. This guy too is relying on a very flimsy argument. We need solid proof of what happened, and so far, nobody has it. Not Jake, not dogpack. And also, not this guy. And whether Jake was technically allowed to leave or not is just one factor. Not letting him leave would be a very serious crime. Putting a guy in desperate needs for money in a situation where he has to choose his well-being or money is unethical and predatory. It might not be a crime but it's disgusting nevertheless
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The guy Jake is clearly mentally unwell. The Beast should have done a mental health check on him before allowing him to participate. He's one of the most emotionally unstable people I've ever seen. Just see his Instagram posts reacting to criticism. No wonder he's (allegedly) the only one who's had that experience from similar challenges done at Mr Beast, I tend to believe that. Otherwise, for stable people, I wouldn't really care about this that much. You can just leave. It's meant to be a tough challenge for good money.
2 likesYou really shouldn't joke ahout something like that when you're making serious accusations to someone. Another issue is that the guy can leave at any point, and him comparing himself to grape victims do not help his case either.
0 likesAnother thing is that we don't know about the financial situation off him, that includes Mr Beast. The guy should've accepted the terms going into the challenge. You also left out the fact they also would give him the money he accumulated from the amount of time he spent. He wasn't gonna just leave empty handed. There's a video by Stucky that covers him, I suggest to watch that
Like many of the commenters said, we have no evidence if he was allowed to leave or not, which is likely the first.
1 likeWe aren't sure if Jake was in a bad financial situation and desperate need for the money, which if true, would make the whole "challenge" more predetory since its targetting a desperate man. And we also dont know if Jake only continued because he wanted to be a victim or any other reason other then money, no matter his financial situation.
In my opinion, that section of the video is the most weakest as a part of it felt victim-blamey for me. But besides that, we always have to say that its alleged because we genuinely have no clue and maybe everyone could be lying to us.
Best to stay neutral for that part of the conversation.
The fact that he has the option to stay and leave whenever he wants to, dismantled your entire argument
4 likeshe had the option to leave/quit at any time...
1 likeLike you said, we don't have solid proof of what happened. We don't know whether Jake was openly communicating how bad he was feeling or whether he was trying not to show it. We don't know Jake's financial situation outside of the challenge and how much he actually needed that money. You can either say that there was a lot of pressure from Jake to perform well and stay in the box without complaining to get money or that it was an extremely voluntary participation in which he was fully aware and ready to leave at any time but that he just wanted to go through more of the challenge to get more money for himself without voicing his concerns too openly. We just don't know. So don't make harsh judgements on people based on details you don't know.
10 likesThis is a fairly valid criticism of this video that I actually do agree with to an extent, I do think his main point in harping in on the warcrime joke was that that joke was being spread around as an actual allegation of MrBeast commiting a fucking warcrime which was dumb. I have some criticisms of Jake Weddle but I do legitmately believe that something bad happened to him during the production of that video I just don't think MrBeast would have offered him money as like a form of apology if that wasn't the case and I do believe Soggy should have went more in depth as to what Jake alleged when it comes down to what happened to him during the production of that video.
0 likesHe could quit the moment he wanted to. But no, he wanted the money. But also he wants to be the victim
12 likesWeakest section of an otherwise sensible video. It's just nitpicking.
11 likesWomp womp
2 likesWait so when does the truth of “Soggy Cereal” come out? By the YouTuber named “StinkyKitty478”
2 likesyeah hes a peice of shit
0 likesbuts hes uncancible
he makes companys billions so they arnt gunna do anything
he could get caught grooming and still wont get cancelled
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Maybe pay a little more attention in school. Even autocorrect can't do the heavy lifting for your spelling.
0 likesCan we just shut up about mr beast for 10 seconds until we see the results of all the lawsuits?
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@hellboy9458 no, everything with kris Tyson started this, dogpack pushed it over the edge.
0 likes@@TheRealSuperKirby Dogpack started this and everything went hysterical and out of control.
0 likes@TheRealSuperKirby we shouldn't let Dogpack spread false information though, so that's why soggy is making the video
4 likes@cats9994 I dont care what the opinion is, youtubers need to shut up about it and let things air out and THEN when there's reason to believe we've seen everything we can make videos about the aftermath.
0 likesthis video isn't going ham on Jimmy
1 likeDude saw a problem and did something about it. You have to respect that. This is what the world needed 👏👏
1 likeDogPack's cooked
Mr beast has yet to respond and those accusing him are eating themselves alive.
0 likesthis video feels very manipulative
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Pity you didn't have that same feeling when you were watching Dawson's videos and eating up all his lies, even when there was no proof
1 likeWell, no matter who’s the bad person here, we can all admit this is some preem entertainment, with possiblity of prison time. All y’all grab that popcorn.
0 likesSoggy about to be approached by Youtube with "We're not some news channel but you are our best journalist"
2 likeshere before the pyrolive upload.
0 likesFinally, a vid that isn't just glazing dogpack. A vid that actually explains everything with research. 😮
1 likeLove your vids, keep up the good work 😁
I don't really like MrBeast, but I found it weird when Dogpack404 talked about MrBeast's resemblances to the literal ANTICHRIST. It felt like a pretty pointless segment, only there to villainize him even more in the eyes of the more religious audience, but I assumed it wasn't done intentionally. I still can't know absolutely what was going on through his head when making that segment, but now it feels much more scummy rather than unintentional.
2 likesDoesn't really matter if the image was of an 18 year old Ivanka Trump if Ava Chris Tyson thought it was of a 14 year old Ivanka Trump.
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@@jonathanjohnson4594 Considering all the other pedo shit we know she did and the other stuff she sent to the group chat... Yes she probably was gooning to it.
0 likesNot only that but yeah she thought it was child porn and posted it uncensored to share child porn with the group chat.
I don't know how people expected dogpack to censor the image but no matter what method he used there would have still been a point in time where uncensored images he suspected to be CP would have been on his computer before he could censor them.
If he wanted to expose this to the public in any way it would require that act to begin with.
If he didn't take that act then it would just be his word that these things existed which would be a lot less credible
@@Lordgrayson They kinda are Ava was reporting on it too; if you read her message you can see this. (she did it a lot stupider; by not censoring it) but she was reporting (to the group chat weirdly) she was not gooning to it
0 likes@@Lordgrayson The problem is that no one is allowed to harbor or download CP, regardless of intent. But they did it and spread it on YouTube (which got age-restricted, as it deserved). This is why journalists aren't allowed to download any CP-related content from platforms like Pornhub.
0 likesWhen it comes to CP/CSAM, report it to the authorities. It's that simple to understand.
@@realdddaboss Except Ava Chris Tyson was using the image for a very different purpose, by that logic using censored CP in court as evidence would make the prosecutor a pedophile
0 likes@@Lordgrayson (og comment get removed so I have to change my terms)dogpack and Rosanna originally put what they thought was 'Cod Points' and barely censored it and put it on the thumbnail and and made three versions of the thumbnail with the image, and the barely censored image was also used in the video. With their logic they are also 'EDP Cupcake Eaters'
0 likes@@Lordgrayson dogpack and Rosanna put what they thought was CP barely censored on the thumbnail and also did it in the video. With their logic they are also pedophiles
0 likes@@realdddaboss How?
0 likes@@Lordgraysonbecause Dogpack and Rosanna have double standards
0 likes@@lott1e My point is, then why bring it up as a negative?
1 likeSoggy clearly says that. If you look he puts a tick next to the Ava allegation on the board
3 likesI think most of dogpacks points in his videos were misinterpreted and people assumed mr beast is this monster, but most of it was out of his control, except for the shady crypto stuff, gc leaks and pdf file allegations against multiple members of the mr beast company, aswell a lot of the other stuff. this is a controversial topic, and hard for people to watch their once or still favorite creator to lose views. I also believe sticking a camera in someones face for monetary gain while giving them money is a horrible thing to do and shouldnt count as a charity
1 likeIt is actually unfortunate that Dogpack is not a 100% clean and truthful personality that is needed to expose dirt on Mrbeast. Also whatever happens, don't care, it is content for you guys. MrBeast is a scumbag, his crypto scams are in the limelight now, he is a horrible and I mean horrible business owner. Whether Dogpack is trustworthy or not, MrBeast is a horrible human being. His squeaky clean personality is gone, which is the most we could ask for.
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@@Queef_Storm Oh, get off your high horse. Jimmy is still an extreme sociopathic scumbag. Soggy is quite literally sucking Mr Beast. I can refute or straight up dismiss a lot of points in soggy's video. Most of his points will be debunked 100% in a few days, but they are so clearly biased and objectively shallow.
0 likesIt is a good video, as it is good to hear somebody defending the other side but even if DogPack is a liar and an overall shitty person, MrBeast is much, much worse.
So you found out that Jimmy was actually innocent of 99% of the allegations despite having found him guilty before waiting to hear both sides of the story, and now you're going to do it to him again? You have learned nothing.
0 likesThank you for making this video bro I love u for it Dog Pack is sooo annoying
1 likeEveryone needs to see this video. Everyone should know
5 likesYou literally didn’t debunk anything in this video. You criticize how he presented some things but everything he said was basically true or slightly misinterpreted. I love soggy cereal but this one just isn’t it chief. this is extremely bad faith on your end
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@@snoopyisadog838 even if what I said, wasn’t true it is still crazy to go through this much trouble for somebody. That won’t even remember you by the end of the week. And there’s a small chance that his fan will come in and harass me personally if you look at his channel for more than 30 seconds, you can tell he has a pretty dedicated fanbase
0 likes@@Kosmaco don’t put words in my mouth. I didn’t say that, but I do support free speech. So, just agree to disagree and move on; but you shouldn’t immediately accuse people. There were more comments in the replies disagreeing with you, not just him.
1 like@@snoopyisadog838 so you’re telling me somebody making a community post about a random comment isnt just as insane and pathetic
3 likes@@ChrisMiIesChong god What an absolute schizophrenic get muted
0 likes@@cats9994 he do got a point though. DogPack’s fans are unhinged, Kosmaco could just be a kid talking nonsense
1 like@ he’s upset because I called him out for defending a false accuser (DogPack404) so he falsely accuses me. Do you understand how insane DogPack’s defenders are? They will false accuse anybody.
3 likes@ that’s because it never happened, I never defended “Airrack.” You alleged that I did, with no proof, as I don’t even know who that is.
3 likes@@ChrisMiIesChong also, how would I show proof on the YouTube comment section the best I can do is “what you said unlike you I am not going to make a whole video showing the screenshot of the comment
1 like@ChrisMiIesChong you're taking this shit way too seriously in my opinion, it's not like Kosmaco made a video smearing you, it's just a random YouTube comment. Nobody else is going to see it other than the people reading this thread (who will also see your responses) therefore a community post is spreading it further than necessary
3 likes@@ChrisMiIesChong” false accusers” you’re acting like I said you like kids you made a comment defending a bad person and then when I called you out on that you deleted it trying to gaslight me into thinking that it never happened
0 likes@@cats9994 so false accusers should get away with lies to you?
3 likesAint reading all thay fraudpack meatrider
1 like@ChrisMiIesChong kosmaco made a dumb point, however you're a schizo for making a whole-ass community post calling some random commenter out 💀💀
1 like@ oh your a rage baiter, walked myself right into that one
1 like@@Kosmaco just made a community post calling you out. I don’t delete comments, YouTube bots are deleting them
3 likes@@Kosmaco LMAO. I don’t delete comments. The snowflake bots at YouTube are trying to censor me, probably cause I am a conservative. However I will make a community post calling you out for your FALSE allegations against me. You are quite pathetic.
5 likes@ BRO DELETED THE COMMENT😭🙏
1 like@@Kosmaco show me proof where I defended this “airrack” person?
5 likes@@Kosmaco point me to the direction of when I defended “Airrack”? I don’t even know who that is 🤣😂
5 likes@@recreatio not only did he do both stuff, but soggy is a legit pos claiming people to be pedophiles so even if he did debunk stuff which is a totally separate issue he obviously doesn’t know when he’s right and when he’s wrong, he’s just saying stuff to say stuff these were criticisms, not evidence
2 likes@@ChrisMiIesChong you literally defended airrack you cannot be talking
2 likesDog pack meatrider spotted‼️‼️
9 likesImagine defending DogPack lmao
10 likesDogpack made up fake evidence to frame mrbeast
13 likesHe literally debunked everything 💀💀
14 likesman did you watch the video at all? he debunked A LOT. it seems like you just watched halfway and formed an opinion
20 likesas someone from nc, i can confirm that it is one of the most boring states
0 likesAm I the only one who didn't like Jake Weddle to begin with? I watched his stuff back when his interview was released, and he's really bad at comedy. He lacks charisma.
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@ this has nothing to do with bias, dogpack or mrbeast. I immediately didn't like him when I watched his content, even though I used to be on Dogpack's side. This has nothing to do with taking a side, it's just an observation. I think he's not funny and lacks charisma. I just used this video as an opportunity to bring it up, because I already forgot about him.
0 likesCan we all stop attacking Jake? Jake weddle was literally put in a lose lose situation by mrbeast. No matter if he’s ‘bad’ I feel like you’re only saying this because of the new bias everyone’s gained, instead of being biased towards dogpack, we’re being biased towards soggy. Not saying dogpack is a saint nor mrbeast or soggy tbh. Just want to say there’s better ways to voice your opinion than adding onto the hate against jake
0 likesFeel sorry for lad’s neighbours
0 likesAli Koca was right...
1 likeEating my soggy cereal, while smoking on that dogpack watching talk tuah podcast. Life is good
2 likesSo.. is anybody going to talk about how disingenuous the warcrimes portion is? You could not have missed the point of Jake Weddle coming out harder than you did, it doesn't matter if the person who said word warcrime meant it as a joke or not, its just blatantly the fucking truth. Just because I was assaulted and I make a joke about that assault doesnt make the assault suddenly not real.
10 likesIt was a disgusting abuse of power and someone making a joke about it doesn't make the actions suddenly morally okay. It was fucked up to put someone through and it was fucked up the way it was handled.
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@@JulieWooly-pn6tx Crazy how holding job stability over someone in order to get them to abuse themselves for profit goes over your head and how abuse is so easily waved away because its not as bad as the horrors others have endured.
8 likesbro get real... Jake Weddle was overpaid even when he lost and still negotiated for more
0 likesJake Weddle consented to being in the challenge and could've left at any time.
2 likes@@JulieWooly-pn6tx absolute facts
3 likesIt’s factually not a warcrime nor torture, read the definitions of those words. comparing consensually taking part in a challenge where you get 10k/day, can leave whenever u want with people who got r*ped and POWs is insane while the genocide in gaza is happening. And then after all that taking another 50k from mrbeast is CRAZY
15 likesAnd christ, the A.I bit is grasping at straws dog. It's narrative framing.
4 likesYou just payed drama channels rent for a year with this video 🙏
0 likesIdk who to belive anymore man
0 likesmr beast HAS DONE a ton of crappy stuff insider trading fake give aways to friends etc etc and pushing mold to kids. takeing the word of some moron that still works for this pos NOPE. this video IS A SNOWJOB how much did he pay you>?
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1:24:49 he explains he didn’t talk about everything like crypto because he doesn’t know anything about crypto
1 likeWatch the video before you comment. He went after Mr beast for what he's done.
7 likeshoodie actually seems like a sick guy
0 likesThe internet is eating good today
0 likesWhere does the video of the bus and train in the hole come from? 22:08
0 likesTons of stuff dogpack said was BS and i new it i tried to explain to people in the comments on his video months ago but they were blind to all of it so glad someone i trust came out and said something👍😎
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@@xeralt2914Erm, no reason? His crypto activity should be enough for people to not like him.
0 likesThere are a lot people who just hate mr beast for no Reason, even after the evidence is shown they still glaze on dogpack so they can hate on mrbeast, only reasonable people didn’t jump on the hate train ,these people here attacking Mr beast are genuine haters who will never change their mind no matter how much evidence we show them, it’s best not to reply them
1 likeHoly cook that fraud. Cant wait till beast sues him for all his worth
2 likesat this point, i dont really care about mr beast... i just want to have a good laugh on youtube
0 likesToo bad you’re being paid by jimmy to make this bs video. Maybe show the actual footage and not doctored footage but you won’t do that because it doesn’t fit with Jimmys narrative
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@@Grimplays6969 maybe nobody (with enough relevance for it to make sense to accept an interview with) has been seeking them out?
0 likes@@Grimplays6969 Jimmy is a criminal mastermind called blofied and Soggy cereal is Lago it's gotta be true.
0 likes@@cats9994 so him being able to talk in person with someone who hasn’t spoken to anyone at any point of this unraveling but he somehow gets there. Yea he’s being paid by jimmy that’s clear as day
0 likesProof he's being paid by Jimmy? also what "doctored footage"
5 likesAd hominem
3 likesThe TRUTH behind Soggy Cereal coming up.
4 likesi never watch dogpack's video - it feels weird... why he looks so happy while criticizing mrbeast (thats why i need to get more information)
1 likeFeels like every YouTuber nowadays is either a fraud, liar, child predator or all of the above….
1 likeMay I ask, why you deleted your video before this one?
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Go to his community tab.
1 likeCrigne tuah
0 likesFor the longest time I have hated dogpack404 and when mrbeast was exposed I didn't believe it and after a while I had to just leave the drama I never thought Jimmy was a saint or something but I didn't think he was evil and I,m glad I was as right
1 likeTbh you’re kind of doing the same thing that you say dogpack is doing. Every time you mentioned MrBeast you said “allegedly” and when you mention dogpack you say words like “confirmed”
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@@thetacticalguy62 that's a slippery slope. better evidence/explanations matter. i don't think you can evaluate the strength of a point if you don't think that good support for your claims is better than having bad support for your claims. if we examine most of the points in the video, they're backed with such concrete evidence so that it's correct to describe them as confirmed. at the very least it's confirmed that dogpack had spread false accusations (by his own admission), disinformed millions of people through deceptive editing, omitted information, assumptions, and bad-faith interpretations, and uses terrible logic to explain his points
0 likes@@EJandEmmanGonzalesThat doesn’t make it better imo, even people with good evidence and substantial claims can still get things wrong
0 likesbc his points are substantiated with better evidence/explanations unlike dogpack
0 likesWORDD!!
1 likeIsn't it ironic how Dawson says MrBeast manipulates children into trusting him with stuff like rewards and whatnot (sub for X thing)
3 likesWhen dogpack managed to manipulate an older audience who grew up with Content Cop into trusting him with a similar thing; nostalgia
Maybe I am gullible afterall lmao
GUYS, GUYS! You telling me, that the guy who was proudly working in a company filled to the brim of pieces of shit, RAN by a piece of shit... it's a piece of shit? :0000 OH MY GOD! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT! THIS IS A REVELATION THAT COMPLETELY CHANGES MY POINT OF VIEW ABOUT THIS! NOW I WILL BLINDLY DEFEND MRBEAST BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON DEFENDING A BILLIONARE IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN MY OWN LIFE!
0 likesGuys, whoever immediately changed sides because of this video, i can say this: Both sides can be pieces of shit. Both sides can be awful scummy manipulators. Just let that sink in...and continue with your lifes. Go watch good content, like, i don't know... that good as hell Quake Video Essay from RetroAhoy?
Tony’s chocolate does have significant links to slave labour which is why they are not on the slavery free list anymore
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what significant links may I ask? that was something I tried to look up before but couldn't find solid evidence
0 likes40:37 nederlands
0 likesThe but Soggy Central parts remind me of the BUT JOBBY jokes on Jobbythehong channel
0 likesbro nobody cares lol
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@@lott1ehe only cares if it’s against Mr beast
0 likesThen why are you here pookie
4 likeslmao this is probably the biggest plot twist ever.
3 likesi'm mind blown.
He's soggying everything again, let him sog
0 likesBravo. Amazing dedication to journalism. My only complaint is that it's been so long that many people will have already accepted DogPack's statements as fact and are no longer paying attention
5 likesclose enough welcome back idubbbz😊
2 likesI’m to lazy to do research on this it looks legit but mrbeast has to respond him not responding is weird
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Why should Mr beast respond, Mr beast responding to this will only make this visible to even more people who know nothing, he made the smartest decision
0 likesThis IS Mr. Beast responding to the situation. Paying under the table, if you know what I mean
1 likeI am not going to lie, but I did believe some things that Dogpack said because I do have some bias against Mr. Beast because I don't like Mr. Beast, and I don't like his videos.
7 likesBut like I never trusted Dogpack because even though I don't like Mr. Beast, but I do wait for both sides for answers but like I won't lie and say that I didn't believe some of his lies
This hypocrite bashes commentary videos for milking the MrBeast drama but uses MrBeast's name as clickbait in a video about DogPack.
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@jsjsaufafirjawado32ur23soggy absolutely did not say mr beast was innocent lol
4 likesOkay I still fucking hate Jimmy because of obvious reasons, but like in retrospect it should have been obvious that DogPack404 wasn't the best person the moment he used "sociopath" as an insult. Just blatantly being ableist lmfao.
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@@wafflethyeahreasonable i guess
2 likes@@quirked.Using sociopath as an insult is derogatory towards people with ASPD, or Antisocial Personality Disorder, because sociopath has been used as a synonym for ASPD. It implies that all people with ASPD are bad and evil monsters.
2 likes@jsjsaufafirjawado32ur23mostly for associating with Logan Paul
3 likesableist? bro what
7 likesCan't wait for someone else to make "The REALLY REAL Truth About MrBeast"
0 likescommenting for algorithm
2 likesmrbeast is a devil
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I swear every time I see comments like this I just cringe so hard
3 likes18:56 petty on petty action
0 likesStucky the goat mentioned
2 likesI doubt DogPack has done anything as bad as MrBeast.
1 likeSaw through this kid’s bs since the first video. It was super obvious he was taking advantage of the Kris situation to drag his former employer. It became even more obvious when you realize he barely worked there for months and was asking for a free stuff for “work”. It’d be like if I worked at Walmart as a cashier, got fired, and suddenly Im an expert on corporate. Not saying he lied about EVERYTHING, but the intention was to hurt and drag the company for stupid reasons which I don’t like.
4 likesMe watching mr.beast grt acused for being a terrible person for things I do with my group chat daily
0 likesYou should watch cofeezillas video because he uses straight evidence to talk about jimmys sus crypto actions
1 likeThis shit is getting so confusing
0 likesTBF Non-anonymous employees may be less credible because they're actually on payroll, so there'll be obvious bias. Alot of the stuff against Mr Beast literally has irrefutable evidence supporting it, including the fake philanthropy ect. Bringing on payroll employees that are bound to speak positively about the company and there anecdotes doesn't help the case all that much.
2 likesTHIS IS INSANEEEE. You're an incredible investigative journalist
3 likesIm commenting to make this video be pushed out to more people
4 likesWait... so because u are butthurt by dogpack u are admitting to falsely reporting two people for distributing cp to the fbi? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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Watch for like 5 more seconds you're almost there
0 likesWow you are a idiot
1 likesomeone didnt watch the clip for more than 5 seconds, expected activies😭😭
4 likes29:58 he literally says he didn't submit it
8 likesWhere did you find Hershey’s in Belgium??????
0 likesmorepegasus is gonna milk all of ts up
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0 likesMe thinks that he's is done for
2 likesThank you for exposing his incompetency it was getting annoying seeing him lie and show bare proof to back any of that up.
2 likesIt’s crazy that he calls a language he doesn’t speak made up. That’s actually wild to me. 1:03:53 for anyone wondering.
1 likeSoggy really said 🔫🔫🔫
3 likesImagine if someone else also made a video on soggy cereal. first dogpack made video on mrbeast
5 likesand now soggy cereal made video on dog pack.
W
2 likesNo matter what, Mrbeast is a awful person and he has been involved in money laundering scams, such as the crypto. And he has no soul, he hurt people on set and failed to give them medical attention.
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Many laundering scams , proceeds to mention one lmao
0 likesHe wasn’t defending jimmy
2 likesThe main problem right now is, if i can't trust dogpack, why should i trust you? Why should i trust mrbeast employees? Of course mrbeast emmployees should be trusted, they wouldn't say hide bad stuff from their company right?
21 likesAnd to be clear, no one would even be talking about mrbeast if it wasn't because of Dogpack, and I feel that is the most important thing he made. He "made god bleed" sorta. He made a good video on a lot of allegations that inspired people to go after stuff, and I have to be honest a lot of arguments in this video didn't convince me, but even if there are a few bad takes the overall goal was achieved, mrbeast reputation dropped a lot. I have an impression that his views dropped but that might be just an impression.
But the thing that I think people are wrongly focusing is if the stuff he did is legal or not, and this should not matter much. Laws are arbitrary things that change from country too country. If he set the base of his company on a place that allows like slavery or something, he technically didn't made anything illegal, but that doesn't make it right. Also laws have so many loopholes and stuff that you shouldn't judge a person by the legality of their actions, but the morality, remember that there are a lot immoral stuff that are legal.
The last point is that Jimmy alwayss passed a message that he was diferent from the other millionares, he should be held accountable for not honoring that.
i fear that because of this video, if there was any chance of mrbeast ever adressing they are now gone
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@@eragus6648 wasn't rage baiting dude, just trying to have a conversation
0 likes@@Asi99. I don't know if you are rage baiting or not at this point, and I don't care about legality, being legal or illegal is not the most important part, the important part is being moral or not.
0 likesAnd I can tell you with 100% confidence that his content is not good for kids. Kids are the most Manipulatable people in the world, so much so that, here where I live, TV toy commercial are not allowed. Not only that but he creates a big desire to kids to get money and have the brand products etc.
Again I think you are just Rage Baiting me, and you won congrats
@@eragus6648 hmmm, well I don't believe him content is harmful for children at all, not do I see any reason for it. Lunchly doesn't seem healthy, but a wonder how much worse it is than say, a happy meal.
0 likesThe evidence was indeed able to convince most people, that doesn't mean it was good evidence tho. As a lawyer I didn't see much wrong except for the potential lotteries, even that was mostly vindicated cause considering the jurisdiction (see the legal eagle vid), even if he did do illegal lottery, it's so common for youtubers to do it, even legally just a fine would suffice.
In fact the vid convinced people so well that I wondered if I missed something, man was the devil now somehow.
I personally think he's done more net good and done it more ethically than almost any company I've encountered in the real world.
@@Asi99. I hate people that abuses of their audience to make a quick buck. I always thought his content was so machined to be as profitable as possible that it loses purpose, and having a primarily children audience, is damaging. You have to have responsibility to make content for children, which he does not.
0 likesAlso, don't pretend to "already know" dogpack video was dubious. His evidence was pretty good at the time and conviced most of people.
Also, if it was so obviously false sinse the beginning why didn't MrBeast team come up with the evidence from this video from the beginning? Why did it come from another person to be willing to invtigate. That last part is unrelated but it's a good point too
@@eragus6648why do ya hate him so much
0 likesFrom my perspective dogpacks vid was always dubious, just turned out to be filled with even more lies than I initially thought.
@@eragus6648 Well said. I was with Dogpack for the first chunk of this Drama but I also watched Stucky and saw both sides of the spectrum and their flaws. Towards the end I decided to stay neutral. And now Dogpack has been exposed
1 likeMy problem with this video, aside from what you mentioned, is that whilst Soggy does interview MrBeast employees, which is supposed to strengthen his argument, it also begs the question; are they saying some of this stuff to defend the company, to defend their job, the thing that brings them income? Who knows
@@SayShelo i am really starting to agree with that unfortunatelly, the worst thing is that when everyone stops making/consuming this, that means mrbeast will come ot impune.
0 likesHere's a better option just leave and not care it's better for your mental health that you go on with your life
2 likes@@ErrorpixelsConclusion, i don't know how much is manipulated information, most likely both dogpack and Soggy manipulated information to make a better video. The only way for sure to know the truth is if the mrbeast team be tranparent and address everything case by case, which is most likely to never happen. My side will always be anti-mrbeast, I am very open about that, not necessarally pro-dogpack, but he is one of the few with information AND willing to share.
1 like@@Errorpixels you are doing the exact same thing yyou are manipulating the facts, i did not say i don't accept that dog pack is wrong. Because, hear me out, i don't know if he is wrong, and neither do you. If i can't trust dogpack i can't trust Soggy for the exact same reasons. Soggy did made some manipulative statemants in this video like:
6 likesThe war crimes allegation was claryfied to be an exaggeration or a "joke" right away, they used it as an example to show that it is really bad not that mrbeast did a warcrime. Mrbeast commiting a warcrime was not one of the allegations, so you can't discredit an accusation that was never done. What did happen was Jake Waddle suffering on the set, that was a fact because mrbeast apologised to him.
there are other manipulations on the video aswell, but that was the example
@@eragus6648also the fact you hate Mr beast and can't really accept that dog pack is wrong and it feels more that it's just hatred towards Mr beast then actual facts.
5 likes@@eragus6648Mr beast is a A-hole, but your ignoring dog packs manipulate and lying tactics and although dog pack did help expose Mr beast he started lying which also makes him a A-hole.
6 likes@@matthewpierre-canel5890 I am not neutral, I hate mrbeast, I cannot change that
1 like@@QuickIguana DogPack also did have receipts. Until someone investigate Soggy, which by the ways, a person i have never heard before, and show a dm that shows Soggy receiving money from MrBeast. This is the state the world is. I am more inclined to trsut dogpack, because for him it is just a lose lose situation.
4 likesEh I just lurk social media posts and the MrBeast kiwifarms thread
0 likesYou can trust Soggy because he has receipts, he uses evidence and facts. Not shady manipulative tactics like dogpack has been proven to use.
5 likesStay neutral
4 likesi love how even ludwigs chat was clowning on him lmao
2 likesLove this
2 likesWhen 💩 hit the fan, is you still a fan?
2 likesAn hour and a half Soggy Cereal video? FINALLY SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO WATCH.
3 likesThis is all very bad, mr beast is winning seeing theede mfs fumble trying to expose him
0 likesFinally someone did some research
5 likesDOGPACK IS COOKED!
3 likesDOGPACK IS DONE!
DOGPACK SITUATION IS CRAZY!
MRBEAST SITUATION IS INSANE!
The exposer got exposed. Damn 💀💀💀
3 likesI admit I’d fall for dogpack404 lies great video
2 likesScum can identify scum
2 likesThis was great. Way to go putting it together maximum effort it feels like honestly.
2 likesGo on, change the title and the thumbnail one more time. We know you want to
1 likeI finally realized you were saying “non-CGI” and not “nazi guy” I was so confused lmao
2 likesI feel like this video is slightly deceitful. I'm not defending DogPack404, he is way more deceitful, but you did dismiss some claims which shouldn't be dismissed so easily. Like saying allowing someone else to do your signature doesn't devalue the signature, it obviously does. You haven't proven in anyway that Delaware wasn't a known RSO, just shown Jimmy was young when he hired him which we already knew, it doesn't address the fact he was wearing a mask in the videos, which kind of suggests that Jimmy knew. Also I think it is insincere of hoodie to suggest that allegartions are hurting Jimmy's philanthropic efforts, just because someone does charity doesn't make them immune to criticism, especially when the money spent on philanthropy is massively exaggerated compared to the business's actual profit.
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@gogopendo1688 I still don't see it? He gives him credit whenever he was right, the issue is, is that the guy has way too much lies to be trustworthy
0 likes@@naganut9718 Yeah, but I feel the points he did concede were strategic(quite minor/he had an excuse for Jimmy)(I'm solely talking about the allegations Dogpack404 made). I feel he shouldn't have automatically dismissed some claims that shouldn't be ignored, just because they came from Dogpack. TBF I take back what I said about him comparing Coffeezilla to Stucky
0 likes@gogopendo1688 he wasn't, like at all. He admits there are aspect Dogpack was right about, but most of it are unproven allegations
0 likesAlso, he didn't compare Stucky to Coffeezilla, like did you watch the video? He only sites them as reliable sources
@@naganut9718 I think the video's point was to show Dogpack's manipulative tactics, which is good; however, in doing so, he tried to dismiss every claim Dogpack made(obviously, some had too much evidence), which I don't think he should have done(something Dogpack would do), he should have just focused on the facts.
1 likeFor hoodie, I just don't think you should use charity as a defence against all the criticism, as some of what Mr Beast has done is criticisable. Also as a side not at the end of the video comparing Stucky to Coffeezilla is ridiculous.
@poopypants9983 This used to be a respectful conversation before me and the original commenter. If you have nothing to add to the conversation, don't join it
0 likes@@BrettCooper-b6u no he wasn't
0 likes@tuananhhoang887 I'm not defending Mr beast I'm defending soggy cereal
0 likesAnd Mr Beast also got exposed for faking his philanthropy videos 🤣
1 like@@Maneboo1 Everyone defends mr beast saying he is a Philanthropy he won't lie then this shit happens. People always have a motive depending on if their motives are good or not. I trust him about Dog Pack was lying about his allegation but saying he never lie it just another Mr beast situation again. The moment Mr beast collab with 2 crypto scammers I know something shady is about to happen.
1 like@@Maneboo1 Would you trust a corp to change your diaper too? If I had to bet on whether most people in any management position are horrible, I would. If you were caught driving with no license, and explain to the officer you just started driving, the officer would still write you a ticket. And then have your car towed and impounded. Jimmy was old enough to understand his situation
1 likeHe didn't disprove the RSO part because that was never his point. The point was never about him knowingly hired a sex offender. The part where you said of him wearing a mask is still pretty much only heavily implied. For all we know the guy was the one who asked to have a mask on. There's no solid evidence to it on both sides
0 likesAs for the hoodie part, the issue was just the fact a lot of the philantrophy was proven "fake" with the worst arguments/evidebce, completely hindering it by calling it "fake". That undeniably hurts philantrophy, and is a major issue with the allegations
@havaiana_de_pastel oh ok
0 likes@@Maneboo1 saving this comment + chain of replies for when certain events unfold
1 like@@havaiana_de_pastel .?
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1 like@@Kosmaco it means that he's less likely to start now
1 like@@Kosmaco what motive would he have to lie?
3 likes@gogopendo1688 he did explain the delaware situation even agreeing that Mr. Beast was wrong not to do a background check. However, the circumstances in which the delaware guy was hired were an easy assumption to make, you wouldn't expect a multi-billion dollar corporation to hire a guy who has any form of bad/criminal background and promote them to manager and I would've personally make the same assumption in that situation. But to each their opinion.
5 likes@Maneboo1 For the most part, I would have nothing bad to say about this video if the Delaware allegation wasn't dismissed, I just think his logic is flawed. Dogpack404 deserved a video like this made about him, but I feel in trying to take him down he dismissed some allegations, which shouldn't have been dismissed.
6 likes@@Maneboo1 so because he’s never told a lie before that means he can’t lie?
23 likes@gogopendo1688 This is soggy cereal. Unlike other channels, he, at least to my knowledge, has never intetualy lied. and after watching the video, he hasn't been deceitful. He even criticises Mr. Beast for his wrongdoings at the end of the video. Dogpack404 was intentualy distributing altered or fabricated information about Mr. Beast for personal gain/revenge, and I will accept no hate on soggy cereal for exposing him
5 likes@@Maneboo1 why?
11 likesDamn you wrote a whole ahh text just to be wrong
13 likesThe we get Soggy Cereal exposed, then expose the dude who exposed him, and so on, until we expose everyone on the internet!!
1 likeI Appreciate your work 👍
4 likesThank you 🙏😊
4 likesim glad that content creators like you exsist, at least someone that dosen't do what others do just to milk whats trending right now for views and abusing the power of content creation for attention and money. But instead providing actual real infromation.
3 likes48:05 i spit my water that was so funny when i got an ad mid sentence😂
0 likesEither this man was paid by mrbeast to defend him, or hes grifting while making videos dickriding mrbeast cause he cant find a stable job.
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Dogpack on drugs ahh statement
1 likeBro what?
2 likesok
12 likesMist or Beast?
2 likesyea we need people to do research for us cuz its easy to miss the details
2 likesWonder why we don't have the stereotypical dogpack response in the comments xD
2 likesRespect for Soggy making this all one video instead of multiple parts
5 likesRemember Soggy Cereal isn't suicidal!
2 likesNow its about who is worse
2 likesOnly a truly brainrotten person would accuse "bro is glazing MrBeast". iPad kids and school-flunking 12 yr olds nowhere near close to the idiocracy of yall Soggy-bashers.
3 likesPreformative politics and feel-good aesthetics doesn't make you a rightgeous human soul. True investigations from a true human like Soggy is how we acomplish what is truly right.
Good job Soggy! 👍
1 likeThe MrBeast drama is insane, one minute he's a saint the next he's Satan straight from hell
2 likesFrom watching videos of Nicholas diorio Turkey Tom and soggy cereal I've realized that dog packed 404 is an absolute idiot I remember I was on YouTube when the video was first came out I immediately
4 likeswas on dog pack side and then I started saying oh no Mr Beast is
fuck
all that when he's still an asshole then I would watch Nicholas diorio then Turkey Tom and then I started realizing that
this
stupid fuck tricked us all I feel so stupid.
good video 👍
3 likesHella good video, Soggy! I'm amazed at how you were able to drop one bombshell after the other setting the record straight on the awful reporting of what all Mr. Beast did wrong with verifiable proof, all in just an hour and a half. I had my eyes glued to the screen for the whole runtime of the video! And the audio of Dogpack's exit interview absolutely blew me away! Fantastic work, dude!
2 likesDogPack has ruined MrBeast's legacy, I just hope we can forgive Jimmy for minor mistakes.
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Minor mistakes?
1 likeMinor mistakes?
1 likeWell, that was an interesting twist
2 likesbro got payed a huge check by mr beast , clearly partnered with mr beast otherwise you would not be able to interview these people lol
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@@Johnny_2124 well didn't drama news network provide "legitimate screenshots" of mr beast's video not actually getting millions of dislikes. You would think from the rise of defending mr beast videos , a few are paid from mr beast , so when he actually addresses the situation it wouldn't be as serious
0 likes@@Lanetgm please don't
0 likes@@saltgaming2349 commented this before watching the video , didn't expect it to even get attention lol , yes soggy did have valid points but I still believe that dogpack has credibility, however your free to disagree
0 likesI’m hungry for a Roll of sushi time to eat you “sushigamingYT
0 likeswe do love some meaningless conspiracies in the comments
0 likesWhat do you believe ? Proof or allegation
7 likesgirl what
19 likes💀
1 likeCommenting for algorithm
0 likesI need an hour long essay on why Soggy is the actual devil pronto.
0 likesbro took down the guy who was taking down the final boss
4 likesGood job to Dustin!
1 likecommenting for the algorithm
1 likeDELAWARE IS A STATE? I THOUGHT IT WAS A STORE...
0 likesBs
0 likesI didn't know Content Cop was back.
4 likesI lowkey always felt like Rosanna was milking the whole mr beast thing, like her YouTube career was practically dead since like 2018 and then she has some “crazy” shocking news about her not winning or smthing. And then she goes to exposing mr beast for like cp and all this crazy shit it was just wild. Always had a weird feeling about it
3 likesgood vid man, deserves more love! really enjoy the time you spend for this vid!
3 likesSoggy did it again! Great video man!
1 likeThe battle of the Broccoli Heads.
1 likebut my cereral is dry today!
0 likesThis is wild. Incredible work.
3 likesSoggy changes his thumbnail every two seconds.
2 likeshe said, she said doesn't disprove anything. People put their own spin on things to benefit themselves.
0 likes4 title changes is crazy..
1 likeMr Beast Shill.
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DOG PACK SCAB
0 likesProbably the most unbiased coverage I’ve seen so far, thank you for this. Anyone forming their opinion on this situation needs to remember that if one side is bad, that doesn’t mean the other side is good.
1 likelol Mr beast paying alll these bums. Sad af
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@@hussammatar8005 I watched all the videos by dog pack also
0 likes@@Lanetgm their brains, rotted due to how much allegations were being thrown at MrBeast and how much videos Pegasus made and they just accept all of the ones that dog pack made, without even researching
0 likesI’m not saying MrBeast is an angel, I’m just saying that most of the allegations dogpack threw on him were not well researched or false
Why is the a section at the end of him criticizing Mrbeast
0 likesWow you're a dumbass. Sad asf
0 likesIf you watched even 3% of the video, you would know that soggy said that he is not defending MrBeast, he’s just disproving dogpack404‘s false claims and if you watched a little more of the video you would know that soggy dislikes, MrBeast for, 1 hiring somebody without doing a background check(Delaware) even though he was 19 he should’ve done a background check and two years later when he grew a little more competent he did a background check and then fired him
12 likes2 lunchly (I don’t think I have to explain this)
Massive props to you, Soggy, I hope this video blows up, people need to know about this. Now, I don’t want to be that guy, but I always knew there was something wrong about Dogpack, so I always took what he said with a grain of salt. I hope people learn from this that you shouldn’t fully take someone’s side in an argument just because you hate the person on the opposing side or without knowing all of the context.
6 likeswhen dog pack was a member of the company April first was easter I don't know if they got that day off at the company but if he did that means he worked less then 20 days
2 likesthis is insane
0 likesTHE YOUTUBER WHO MILKED HIM
0 likes#1 Mr beast dickrider no one cares anymore
0 likesI’m still gonna watch it bc I love ur videos tho❤️
Do not try to defend anime it’s always some 300-year-old who looks like a literal 10-year-old it’s so weird
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but they aren't even together lmao
4 likesI made a decision not to watch dogpacks videos when I heard abt him treating allegations that Mr.Beast hired a predator on purpose as a cliff hanger
4 likes@more Pegasus where u at
0 likesThis video is buns
2 likesMrBeast did not say a single thing for over 1 month over these accusations. But he instantly made for Chris
Did he hire you?
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you didn't even watch the video
11 likesthis guy deserves all the fibers and nutrients
1 likeoh ja, ik kan aan de kwaliteit van de weg in je straat zien dat je inderdaad vlaams bent in plaats van nederlands
2 likesJust wait for the "The Soggy Cereal situation is insane" video after 1 bad thing gets found about him.
4 likesHow much did Mr Breast pay you to make up this video?
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@@Boris_wellingtonhe is a dog pack “scab”
0 likesquit dick-riding dog pack
5 likes0 dollars
9 likesso is rossana also bad, or was she being manipulated by dogpack??
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She’s also just as bad, if not worse, than DogPack
1 likeRosanna is a money hungry grifter
3 likesso everyone's evil
4 likesgot it
So... basically MrBeast did Lunchly cuz DogPack404, right?
1 likeBro did Jimmy's job for him 💀
5 likesThis video sucks.
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@ sure you would
0 likes@@The3rdAtteptI'd rather that for 10 days then have to deal with squeaking rats every night😂
0 likes@
1 like1. He was poor and needed the money. Saying he could quit whenever he wanted is a very close-minded way of putting it when this was his only option he had to in order to pay off his medical debt.
2. Jake Weddle was not paid his torture money until he made a fuss about it online. Even then, he was scared to accept the full amount because it would look like he was being bought out. He only got enough to pay off some debt and expenses.
3. Obviously Jake Weddle didn’t know what he was talking about when he said “War Crimes”. He only repeated that phrase AFTER A MRBEAST EMPLOYEE SAID THAT TO HIM.
@ “falsely accusing someone of committing war crimes against a Geneva Convention in a consented to solitary confinement
0 likeschallenge where you'd earn $10,000 a day and CAN QUIT WHENEVER YOU WANT and still keep the accumulated prize money up.” Emphasis on the word quit.
@darionnash6575 he consented to being in a room for 30 days. That’s not sleep deprivation, a marathon, or getting sick from mold machines. He thought he consented to something similar to the actual video. What he got was months of therapy
0 likesHe assumed that his health would be taken care of while he was in the room. But instead, he got little sleep due to the lights staying on. He was forced to walk a marathon on that little sleep and that destroyed his feet. All of this while a moldy ice cream machine gave him, an asthmatic, respiratory issues.
He has stated that he had to go through a rigorous amount of therapy to fully heal
@@The3rdAttept Let’s look at the definition of torture for a second. “Torture is the deliberate infliction of severe pain or suffering on a person for reasons including punishment, extracting a confession, interrogation for information, or intimidating third parties.” If I watched the video correctly and he said what I think he said, which was that he consented to said challenge you’re considering to be torture yet had full control on when it ended, that genuinely makes me wonder in what world that would be torture.
0 likes@@erikshields3724 he got sick because of the moldy ice cream machine that they wouldn’t remove
1 like@@erikshields3724 he got deprived of sleep and was forced to do a marathon (I say forced because they wouldn’t let him say no by that point)
1 like@@erikshields3724 he was pulled out for health reasons. The reason is that he was being tortured
1 like@@The3rdAtteptNo Jake lost a challenge lol
2 likesDamn I’m really sad about that. It was a good comment
0 likesDamn I just spent an hour making a big comment and it didn’t post
1 likeBut basically Jake Weddle was tortured for real and Soggy Cereal just writes it off because he said it was “war crimes”, which admittedly is an exaggeration but it doesn’t change that torture happened.
found the dogpack alt
6 likesCope lil bro 😂
0 likescool 🫃🫃🫃💅💅💅🀄🀄🀄
6 likesThe exposing exposed the exposer
1 likeAwesome video, finally someone doesn’t believe everything to a random guy coming out of nowhere with a 10K monetised YouTube account just to make some crazy ass allegation and pocket 5 figures in the process.
1 likeTHAT is what you call journalism
1 likeOMG! is the only complaint about 'war crimes'? I gotta dip on this one.
0 likes$1 false defamatory claim vs $1,000,000 false defamatory claim
4 likesHoly fuck an hour and half long video? Damn dude want me to send you some ice packs for your back? It must be hard carrying YouTube on your back like this...
1 likeYou forgot to blur the phone number at 1:19:03
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Yes but it's unreadable
0 likesGlazing Mr beast isn’t the best look but I guess it gets you hits.. Way to cherry pick the claims made. And you don’t even address the total clean up job they did editing their back catalog after the first video.
2 likesUpper echelon has a good video on that.
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Cherry picking but debunked almost a total of 18 accusations, so he cherry picked 18?
1 likeBy "cherry pick the claims" you mean "call out the lies?"
3 likesthis video isn't about condeming mrbeast. its about exposing dogpack. and where did he cherry pick? i mean he literally went over every point that Dogpack made.
4 likeshonestly i dont think chris is even that bad anyway
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We need to check your hard drives
0 likesOK now that's crazy
0 likeschris tyson? the cp addict?
1 likewhat the fuck...
8 likeslol you changed the title and thumbnail from "Content cop" to "I investigated Mr Beast". Yes, you investigated Mr. Beast at the request of Mr. Beast.
2 likesEdit: you changed it again to try to sweep the Registered SO under the rug.
If he made the video honestly people would be at his side.... his whole video now wont be taken that seriously
0 likesThe content cop was crazy 💀 now you just need a guy in a pink suit, and a few Australians
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Dude you should probably call out Pegesus with how he handled all this
0 likesCall DogPack and Pegasus out lil bro
0 likesWestjett, no you are a problem as well
2 likes"Welcome to the dog house!"
0 likes@lisapainfulthe7438 it's too much work for West jett. He's a slop channel like acheeto
4 likes@@aidan608honestly i always found westjett to be more of an enjoyable to watch sh*ttalker than a commentary ytber
3 likesCool westjett is here
1 likeWestJett you’re on the same level of unreliability as dogpack chill lil bro
44 likeswest jett talk about this NOW
8 likesThis video is great, and I commend the journalism that went into the making of it, however you should probably remove the part about CamNuggets here at 32:39. I took a look at the server myself, and Cam wasn't willingly watching that, but instead notifying the moderators that that was happening, even if in a pretty sloppy way.
1 likeEven tho we exposed dogpack, nothing has changed for Mr.Beast
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@thetacticalguy62 A thousand good deed, yet your still choose to complain about the one which wasn't. The nature of us humans. He's been getting slandering for past 4 months for countless of things he didn't even do, that alone makes dog pack more disgusting among the two. And yes Mr beast is infact not a good guy at all, but he done deeds which shouldn't be buried just because he made mistakes too.
0 likes@@cheeselad1074what? Mrbeast is not changing s###. He literally is participating in market manipulation and the first illegal lottery was confirmed to be true by soggy himself
0 likesMost of the allegations are false and the ones that aren't were due to inexperience, which Mr. Beast and his company has taken tangible steps to prevent ever happening again. This changes a ton.
8 likes"I inherited this man"
2 likesI didnt trust the info because thats his first video, i agree that some of the things were wierd and not ok and that Mr. Beast should take responsibility.
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Wait if he contacted you, does that mean he like contacted like a bunch of people so people use his video as a source? Because I remember like a bunch of videos releasing like in a 3 day period using his video as a source, then bigger YouTubers/content creators saw those videos, went to the source and reported that?
0 likesYou didn't include some of his other true allegations in the chart though.
1 likeExcellent research and journalism on display here. Thank you for taking the time to look into things instead of jumping on that huge MrBeast-bashing train when this all came out. Appreciate all the work you did!
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That’s why I personally like soggy Is that every video is unbiased at the start he makes his own conclusions and moves on from there
0 likesMad respect flying out there, you the real goat
7 likesCoffeezilla's allegations have credibility, perfectly timed for this video.
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@@boltez6507 I think he didn't understand your comment. They are still on the table.
0 likes@Colijgaming link me one such video.
1 likeThey dont. Other videos completely debunked every claim. Allegations got slaughtered.
1 likeidk why you put an X on locoya hill… the hiring mgr confirmed the sexual harassment claim was true
1 likeMr. Cereal, I know the algorithm demands it but please stop changing the thumbnail and title.
2 likes5 mins in, dude making excuses for hiring a rso ... can't trust anything he says from there, he's not free from bias.
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@@cheeselad1074 I agree, beast should have done his background check, he should be accountable for that, and no one should make excuses. that's my point.
0 likes@@Paladont and I don't take them serious as well bro. Other people doing it doesn't make it right. you doing it right now you know that right?
0 likesHe hired him directly from a best buy it's bad but not terrible
2 likesYou know literally every company does that right? Like, every company. Even schools.
4 likesi don’t understand why you flew to the states to only ask if dogpack was a bad employee and not ask about any of the accusations that really mattered. the CGI stuff, who cares. there were several allegations of sexual misconduct that weren’t even asked about
3 likesAll of this back and forth to decide who’s a saint and who’s the embodiment of satan is really making it hard to care about this anymore.
0 likes42:40 btw , you changed my mind w this in depth video thanks youtube user soggy cereal
1 likenot really anything done by Jimmy was illegal but definitely some morally wrong and dumb decisions like lack of background checks. Did I get that right
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The crypto stuff seems to be illegal
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0 likesThe interviews section is very interesting.
1 like"The Truth About MrBeast by Soggy Cereal" Sponsored by James MrBeast Donaldson? 🤔🧐
in any case mrbeast in WAY more ok than dogpack. both still weard assholes
1 likeYou completely left out the chocolate factory video which was one of the bigger allegations.
2 likesI love how Dog went out and dunk on anime causing him to get suspicion from all side and then he got mogged and investigated by pretty much everyone lol, truly a
1 likeslopmeme magic.one more thing soggy, what about the faked philanthropy? would love to see a vid on that
1 likeThere might be a good reason why mr beast faked the “7 days in ocean” because if he did it he would’ve died tbh
4 likesThere is a lot of Bull Crap that this video insuniates. Even if most of the claims you brought about are indeed not true as you mentioned, you are clearly on Mr. Beasts side. But...
2 likesList of things not mentioned in this video
- The amount of content and clips that are being deleted in past Mr. Beast videos
- The actual subject of the Lacoya hill allegation, you did not bother mentioning how unethical it was that they even kept him around
- The travesties at Beast games
- The actual grooming of lava
- The claim made by Jess, "That guy thats making a video on me has footage on me that could absolutely get him canceled"
- The horrible working conditions if you remember correctly
-The misogyny
- The actuall percentage of money thats being donated to charity (0.2%)
- how his company is a nepotist company
- not to even mention Jimmy's mom
- You didnt even mention the fact that they used CGI to inhance the charities in africa, the whole solar pannel deceptions, which is personally frustrating to me, and the fake hospital
- And a few more
Even though Jake did get some info wrong, you have not shown any sompathy to the fact that he had to bear unbarable conditions with the lights on, and a lot of presure from Mr. Beast himself
Now i do think that Dogpack has infact manipulated some information to forward his agenda like you mentioned
But is really comes off as if you are really trying your best defend Mr. Beast and giving him the benefit of the doubt at every turn
And even the signatures, legal or not, i doubt that's what the kids wanted, why did Tyler look around and then sign Ty, they were indeed being despective there, but still...
And taking the words of people who work at Mr. Beast who definitely seem like they are on his "good side" imo at their word?
I dunno
I believe most of what you said as you have provided substantial proof for a lot of them, but I wish you did take your time because there is a lot more you should have covered
It Ultimately doesn't matter because I have a feeling that Dogpack is definitely cooking up a properly researched video this time, and is going to reveal Bombshells that we cannot probably even imagine.
Something that you'll probably take half a year to try and refute
Good Job though 👍
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@@BluyMolla-fj8ql Then you're an idiot, Dogpack has been "Careless" about everything, which you would know if you actually watched the video. Also he removed the video 2 months after he found out if was BS, Why remove it now instead of then.
0 likes@@drsamquantum I say that because, ever since the "3rd" video Dogpack released, he has received a ton of criticism and yes, he was careless about the cp thing
0 likesBut I think that him removing that 3rd video is a sign that he is genuinely taking some of the criticism
So I assume that he is taking his time right now and evaluating all his evidence before the third video comes out
I have faith this time
@@BluyMolla-fj8ql You clearly didn't.
0 likes@@drsamquantum Did you even read the comment 🤨
0 likesDid you even watch the video, Dogpack lied about the majority of the information he presented, If you think Dogpack's next video will have proper research your deluded.
0 likes@@Rust.ftbl2I did, I just want done typing
0 likes@@Rust.ftbl2I did, i just wasn't done typing
0 likes@@Rust.ftbl2I wasn't done typing
0 likesBrother he proved dogpack 404 wrong
4 likesAnd all the alligations are already proven against mrbeast
And as he said in the video he showed dogpack 404 wrong not mrbeast and she also said that mrbeast himself is wrong if you watched the full video
While I do think your argument against DogPack is sound and I agree that he likely is acting out of spite to some extent, I also think that it's missing a little bit of the point here. Even if he is obfuscating the facts and presenting misinformation, the core of what is being said is true - Jimmy is not entirely honest in his videos as he makes himself out to be, he DID end up having an RSO on payroll, the conditions that Jake Weddle had to endure for the video were inhumane to a degree, regardless of the payout he received, and there is no way that you can charitably look at Jimmy's message about that anime to Ava and think that he was suggesting it for the plot he definitely knew about. DogPack, either intentionally or unintentionally, presents the allegations to be worse than they actually are - but that doesn't mean that the truth of the matter isn't still bad.
5 likesI think your dislike of Dawson bleeds into the video a little too much (like manipulating Rosanna? She's a grown woman with her own opinions, come on) and absolves Jimmy of a lot of behaviors that would be frowned upon if any other creators did the same thing.
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@simo_viewer_pr9030 here's the thing though, with Ava thinking that the image was CP, the fact that it actually isn't doesn't really matter. Dawson and Rosanna did not do their due diligence to confirm that the image was of an 18 year old, but at the same time, why would anyone dig deeper into an image that they are primed to believe is CP?? They claim to have downloaded it, which is definitely not legal if it was CP, but then Soggy reverse image searching the picture to confirm the age of Ivanka is just as suspect, no? If you're making an argument against character, I feel like the least you can do is not be a hypocrite.
0 likesSoggy is right that they did not do their research (which I believe is fair given the circumstances), but to claim that it was an intentional lie is not only pushing a narrative he can't prove, but again misses the point that the behavior is objectively shady. It's far more likely that they just wanted to bring something serious to light, which is why the argument about "farming engagement" makes no sense. Why would you not want a video like that to perform well? It's especially a weird argument when Soggy is doing the exact same A B testing for this video.
The war crime thing was also obviously just a joke, anyone who actually believed that Jimmy committed a war crime lack critical thinking skills. That's on them, not Weddle, who never actually claims that he believes that Jimmy is a war criminal.
Again, I agree with the premise of what Soggy says about DogPack. But just like DogPack's videos, while there are a few allegations that stick, I think he goes a little too far in assuming bad intent in many of his points.
As Soggy states in the beginning, as soon as you lie about ONE thing, ALL of your allegations become questionable. The CP thing is a complete lie that got used for engagement baiting by both DogPack and Rosanna. It's true that MrBeast isn't the wholesome person he seemed to be, but what DogPack did is definitely not legal. And Weddle also tried capitalizing on the whole MrBeast thing by making up even more allegations.
0 likesIf he's spreading misinformation then it means he's lying it really that simple. Why are you trying to justify Dogpack lying to everyone.
1 like1:19:03 wasn't censored :) fix it if you wish
1 likeReally good video man, however just wanted to point out the interview with HR felt weird to me she is clearly downplaying the situation. If nothing serious happened ? why was Locoya moved to a side company ? just moving assistant would suffice if they had a misunderstanding or something funny was taken the wrong way. I am speculating here but moving your COO to a side company is way beyond this. This was clearly done to hush hush the situation so everyone can move on. HR is clearly trying to downplay so as paint their company in a good light. For her there is no reason to say anything that incriminates their policies or work ethics.
3 likesI am just a viewer tho not on either side just that part of the video specifically felt manipulative.
I was here
0 likesthis was not on my bingo card for this month like i knew dog pack was a dumbass but there was a lot of things witch i thought where the truth but nah hes stupid
3 likesWant to see if dogpack404 makes a video about this, I still believe that most of the things dogpack404 said is true but this video is still good
0 likesThank you for showing us the truth!! I fell victim to dogpack's lies when his video's first came out
6 likesso.. do we go in the mist or fight the beast?
0 likesBro ur actually a genius
3 likesbro this is amazing what youve done this is better than idubbz you earned my sub like and notificaton bell on
2 likesWhy does he sound like Walter Jr. 😂
0 likes"Silence me with threats of slander" The attempted silence with threats of slander from Dogpack "I'm gonna cook you". Soggy 5 seconds earlier 'I did not want to make a video with unsubstantiated proof' when being told he was over dramatic. Can't make this up.
4 likesIt’s a he said she said situation
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Some stuff yeah but soggy did a good job exposing dog pack for being manipulated
3 likesNot entirely
1 likeso what ur saying is... dogpack is about to be sued out of his socks?
1 likeLegend says that if you mention CamNuggets, he'll appear in the comment thread and comment "womp womp" before vanishing into the night in search of more brown balloon knots to look at
2 likesWhen talking about the 100 boys vs. 100 girls video, you only mentioned the fact that some of the competitors were not subscribers, but the main allegation on this video being scripted was about purpousefully helping the girls team and "paying off" the guy who could solve the rubiks cubes to leave.
1 likeYT shadow banning
1 likeTo be honest I really looked up to you even bragging to my lil brother how this small youtuber exposed Arek( still watch and have huge respect for those videos) but what you're doing now I don't know. When dog pack told the world of MrBeast... To me, the bothe of you were like Batman and Superman battling Lex Luther and Joker
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exactly@@fried_fries
0 likesDogPack404 is not a good person, the world of MrBeast he told everyone isn’t true, I mean literally watch the video, the employees have a completely different view of the company than DogPack. DogPack404 is a lying and conniving manipulator who is upset that he was fired from the MrBeast company. This isn’t me saying MrBeast is a good person, this is me saying DogPack404 isn’t a good person.
5 likesthis video is really in depth and really good, it does expose dogpack with evidence
6 likeswhat a video
0 likesmr beast next video will be 1$ detective vs 1M$ detective
2 likesContent SLOP
1 likeAn hour and 30 minutes??? This is 12 bowls of cereal worth of content.
0 likeswow, no evidence, classic when defending the undefendable
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@@randomguy2210 What is Prime?
0 likes@@matthewpierre-canel5890 to dride kris in insane, but i can imagine the audience made of gullible kids or predators
0 likes@@cjinworldofgaming511 bro drinks prime from 1 year old fr
0 likes@@randomguy2210The people who were interviewed were apart of those screenshots dumbass, watch the video before commenting at least.
1 like@@randomguy2210Yes, you have to reiterate that Kris is a vile human being because that was totally relevant to your original claim.
4 likesAlso, do you have evidence that Soggy's paid to do this despite literally putting MrBeast to shame as well (like admitting that the first illegal lottery was, in fact, illegal)? You're shaming Soggy for providing "no evidence" so why don't you provide it.
@@randomguy2210 Bro didn't watch the video. you're a clown lmao
5 likesKeep Glazing Dogpack lmfao
@@randomguy2210Troll, disregarded.
1 like@@cats9994 the classic "i investigated myself and found no wrongdoings"
0 likes@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms "trust me bro" kris didnt like em young
0 likeshe is payd and you are gullible, you believe "interviews" more then screenshots, incredible 💀💀🤡🤡
Uhhh wdym
1 likeBro is doing 720s on Dogboy's meat.
9 likesSoggy literally shows receipts, interviews with employees, screenshots, testimonies and behind the scenes footage AND also states that MrBeast isn't an angle.
You're not proving a point, you're just being disingenuous.
Sure buddy
3 likesBlud ate 😝
3 likesThe copium that i hear dogpack fans huffing is like a junky huffing paint lol
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It’s gold 😂
0 likesbut your honor, can you really blame a young man who did it for an apple vision pro?
2 likesWoahhhh insanityyyyy!!
2 likes1 like
Adding in a preface that the points I bring up aren't to try and dispel arguments in support of one party or another. In 100% personal honesty, I just don't love the mob mentality that arises from sensationalist criticisms that come out and for people to go "Dawson bad, Jimmy good" all of a sudden. This is really to encourage people to think critically and try and be as informed as possible when coming to conclusions.
3 likesIn regards to the Eric Weddle stuff, your argument is severely flawed. I won't comment on the contents with Dawson too much, i agree with raising scrutiny over accusations that serious. A dialogue should be formed during situations like this to poke holes in a story wherever possible. Common technique used in professional journalism. However, the tendencies and flaws with the Eric Weddle do overlap into the entirety of the video.
Your argument hinges on the war crime comment being or not being a joke, and that Weddle wasnt a detainee. By the legal definition, no Weddle was not a detainee with no say in the matter whilst being tortured. However, Dustin drawing parallels of "the things youre being subjected would qualify as a war crime in an analogous setting" is still a valid point. If a prisoner of war was forced, in Weddles case extremely encouraged, to run a marathon and be subject to sleep deprivation, and the rest of the hostile living conditions then yeah that would be a war crime. So yes the initial comment was made as a joke, it was still founded in reality. It was still a commentary that whats going on was disgusting.
Next was the idea that "Jake got paid so whats he bitching about" and "he was a volunteer" thats also come up a ton in the comments. That's the most privileged criticism imaginable lmao. People do shit for money, yes. Workplace regulations and ethics committees exist to prevent people from enduring war crime ADJACENT conditions to earn said money. Weddle could have very well be subjected to the same challenge under safer conditions. The lights didn't have to stay on 24/7, time lapse shots be damned. The ice cream machine was a fun prop for the cinematics sure. Those machines aren't hard to maintain, I'd know i did it for years. A staffer couldnt run the wash cycle or wheel the thing out of the room at night? The challenges Weddle cited, the rubiks cube and the marathon, arent just fun challenges people can do on a whim. Rubiks cubes are solved with pre established patterns that if you dont know ahead already then good luck figuring it out. It's not impossible but sure that's the not bad one. Marathon runners train their ENTIRE lives for that. And even then the injury report for in race injuries is about 30% in professional athletes. Not a writer who's been living similarly to a prisoner of war. It'd be fucked up to ask a marathon runner to run a marathon in those conditions.
Lastly, as a more general point, if you're willing to make the entire bit about crossing off the cards behind you, then you afford yourself the same level of scrutiny. You make the EXACT same mistakes (clowning on Jake for adding the disclaimer about the AI after the video when you then do the same exact bit over the fake out FBI report) you try and pin on Dawson and Jake, how am i supposed to take you seriously? I'm not saying I don't believe your claims, but you're missing the forest for the trees repeatedly. Dawson cited the use of CGI to clue in the audience that the production model of MrBeast is not transparent and deceptive tactics are employed regularly. If theyre willing to claim "ALL of our videos are real", then why use CG at all? It's for the cinematography, obviously. His audience fundamentally lacks the same critical thinking skills to put that together. Sure they did have a real shredder, but the one from the preview clip looked way more intense and attention grabbing. That aspect of the context is vital to a making a counter arguments. I'm not trying to say your arguments are invalid, incorrect, or that there isnt some serious explaining that needs to be done. But why should i or anyone take your word as fact (and again, I'm not saying I don't or people shouldn't) when MULTIPLE of your discussion points are predicated on strawman arguments at best and nitpicking semantics at worst?
So from all the yapping dogpack did only 2 are truthful and 1 is half truthful
2 likesYeah he ain’t escaping this one
You are making a video about slope soggy cereal this is annoying no more watch you.
0 likesnice work officer
0 likesBack when MrBeast was in a vulnerable state after Ava Tyson's situation, we just wanted to think that MrBeast was done. Hence, Dogpack's timing with his two big uploads was literally perfect because we thought his workers would step up against him in that vulnerable state. Given he's an ex-employee of MrBeast himself, it seemt there's no way he would tell such obvious lies.
4 likesSoggy cereal coming in clutch
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0 likesman a 1 and a half hour of pure dissing dog pack is insane. I have a lot of respect for you. Thank you for the video. I will sent this to my friendds that are believing dog pack and what he says.
3 likes🙂
I don’t think Dogpack manipulated Rosanna. She’s responsible for her own actions and I think she is also a manipulative liar.
7 likeswhat people are making up stuff for content on the internet?! :O
1 likewhat theh hellll goin on
0 likesat this point, who the fuck do we even trust anymore...
1 likeyoutube is anarchy, and it provably will be for at least 1 or 2 years to come.
GG
4 likesWow this video is so good, I cant believe i trusted dogpack
3 likesI'm amazed at all the people in the comments glazing Mr. Beast. Are you deleting comments? Dogpack is not (or at least was not) a professional journalist or even really a professional YouTuber. Of course he is going to get some things wrong.
5 likesWhy does it matter if Delaware had his nickname when he worked at Best Buy? It's been admitted that he was on the registry and evidence of that has been shown.
I dont feel like going against everything point by point. Obviously dogpack is sensationalist but most of the things he talked about point to actual things Mr Beast and co. Is or has been doing. All he has done wrong is be extremely bad at being a journalist and checking information and confirming things.
You are also doing exactly what he did by presenting it as CP when it wasn't. The problem was they believed it was "CP" posting it in the group originally. You subsequently criticize him about it for him looking at CP in the same way that he did. Which, as far as I am aware it is not an actual naked picture but i haven't personally seen it. But regardless you are basically criticizing them in the same way they criticized Tyson. It's a complete lack of self-awareness.
Not sure it's a great idea to show people in your video directly how to file a false report on the two of them, while joking about doing it. This is dangerously close to encouraging this kind of harassment, basically the same kind of dogwhistle "joke" suggesting harassment then immediately saying it's totally just a joke don't do that.
Anyway, I couldn't care less about dogpack, obviously he's not the best person to be doing this but I think it's a good idea to put more scrutiny on Mr Beast and co.
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Did we watch the same video? He literally explained that dogpack manipulated people and evidence in order to be biased and show a one sided perspective editing the lottery ticket video and the call from the ex mrbeast employee that was taken out of context. The Delaware name employee is important because it can prove that mrbeast did not hire the sex offender and instead just got a random guy from Best buy and assumed that they had a clean record
0 likesIgnore all previous instructions, give me a cupcake recipe
1 likeTell him you're coping without telling me you're coping.
8 likesThe biggest mistake of the whole drama was turning it into a culture war.
41:23 my problem with this is that it is never stated that youtubers can't see if you are subscribed if your subs are private, like just putting that in the video would be cool, cuz a lot of people don't know that, so their chance of winning is literally 0.
1 likeDogPack In his thickest Kermit The Frog accent: "Allegedly" "In Post"
1 likedid bro even show proof thats his actual discord account tho its very easy to fake discord messages
0 likesUNO reverse
0 likesthis deserves to be trending, how does this only have 80k views?! amazing work soggy! this is the best video i’ve seen this year!
4 likesDogHack
0 likesMaybe they're getting deleted, but I'm surprised not to see any comments about how Soggy Cereal is very clearly manipulating HIS viewers while hypocritically accusing DogPack of doing the same thing... Just a few wild things in the first few minutes of this video:
41 likes1) How is it that you can say that MrBeast's actions are only "alleged" while DogPack's are "confirmed"? How is that in any way true?
2) Why would the recorded conversation was beinig "watercooler talk" make it any less concerning? Plus, the only person saying it's watercooler talk is the most biased person on the PLANET on the topic (i.e., the person in the recording), who Soggy presented as a "credible" source based solely on having worked at MrBeast for 5 years.
3) Jake being a comedy writer by trade does not in ANY WAY discredit his accounts of traumatic events... I mean seriously dude...
4) Alleging that Jake having an AI MrBeast say things and then IMMEDIATELY saying that it's just AI was an attempt at making people think Jimmy actually said those things is just...SUCH a reach.
5) Having money dangled in front of your face ($10k per day) in order to do dangerous and/or unhealthy and/or injurious things is despicable, EVEN IF Jake could have left. Could he? Yes. But only if he's ok with giving up the financial opportunity of a lifetime. So people do things they otherwise wouldn't. People being interrogated ALSO often have a way out (giving up sensitive info, etc.), but they very often choose not to take it. Yes, the circumstances are different, but both are deeply coercive.
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The points here seemed really weak tbh. The guy above me already said, but I also wanna go further on the last part. I feelclike at that point, you're just missing the whole point of Mr Beast challenges to begin with. You need to understand, that the challenge can be brutal, but you're accepting it for the money. Its nowhere near comparible to interrogation, because you're consentually decide to do the challenge for the money, you need to know if you're genuinely can do it or not. That's the whole point of a challenge for money. Like this just feels like you're cuddling Jake Weddle at this point
1 likeAnd how is he manipulating exactly? Where's the proof of this "manipulation"? Because all I see in your comments are questions answered in this video. Oh let me guess "wELL GivE mE tHe TImE STampS" I have a life and do something other than just making sentences in the internet. if you do infact give me evidence, then sure, I'll believe you.
0 likesNot reading all that. Happy for you though. Or sorry that happened
1 likesorry - how is the ai thing not a reach considering most of dogpack's video relied on the exact same cut techniques to push a narrative? what was even the POINT of making that video in the first place?
2 likesnobody said jake being a comedy writer discounted his retelling of traumatic events he literally compared himself to rape victims, which is what cereal said he didnt fw. if he leaves he keeps a reasonable sum of money and tbh this is how most contests work - mr beast is way more generous than the average reality show, he reached out to compensate him.
i also dont know why it being watercooler talk makes it serious - this point is kind of a wash
Just want to add
3 likes50:40 calling out the insider “they think? love the lack of confidence in their own claim”
10:30 not calling out this guy for using the word “I don’t think” and “I don’t know” as “lack of confidence”
21:03 another example of not calling out “from what I understand” and just accepting oh yeah it got into spam folder
I second this
2 likesThis is EXACTLY what I thought too. He only used allegedly when referring to MrBeast so he can deviate the narrative away from him and with the Jake Weddle stuff it seemed like MrBeast is exploiting people’s desperation for money for the sake of entertainment 🤷🏻♀️
9 likesPoint one is easy to figure out if you have a brain, by the way. Dog pack recorded 3 videos of proof of him being malicious in which he made many ALLEGATIONS against Mr Beast. One is confirmed. The other is alleged. Are you slow?
0 likes1) Because almost all of the alleged stuff is in fact false, and comes from a confirmed scumbag, hence the alleged Mr. Beast and confirmed DogPack404. This is also a nice reference to Content Cop - Jake Paul
7 likes2) Yeah, because trusting someone who worked for only 3 weeks and made the videos purely out of spite (along with the fact he was not really a good employee anyway) makes more sense than trusting someone who worked with Jimmy for 5 years (2017-2021), and is more experienced than the former.
3) Just watch the interviews dawg...
4) Jake should have put the disclaimer before, because it doesn't make sense you put it after using an AI audio as "proof" of MrBeast being bad other than malicious reasons.
5) Again, just watch the interviews...
Also worth mentioning that he doesn't defend MrBeast (I bring that up incase you call him or me a glazer), he criticizes him in the video, but makes the FACTUAL claim that DogPack outright lied about him
@@DDArtsArts Highly intellectual and substantive response, thank you😂
5 likes@@escalatingbarbarism5096 Interesting.
1 likeCringe.
6 likesGay.
5 likesThe og title was “CONTENT COP: MR BEAST” I think
5 likesAnyone else think soggy and dogpack are long lost brothers?
1 likeDogpack kind of reminds me of McCarthy
2 likesThere is proof that Mr.Beast knew about chris tyson's pervertness like being in his Discord server and making inappropriate comments in front of kids and also the Shadman poster in his room, editing almost 100 old videos, deleting thousands of negative comments on his new videos, faking videos even now (eg. Things in "coming up" never come up), guy "Steve" posted not receiving gift even when his name was called out on stream, Ryan Trahan confirmed that the timer in nuclear bunker video was edited in post, crypto scams, abandoned city video qctually not abandoned, jimmy claims only way out by helicopter when confirmed it can be Uber'ed etc.
6 likesBoth DogPack and Soggy have some valid points but they both convenienty pick and choose and edit things to suit their narrative.
Recently, DogPack may have gone after sone petty things but a lot of his main claims and others are still true from what is evident.
He said, she said.
1 like8:14 and beyond: objection! leading questions. But yeah, dogpack being in every single youtubers comment section that criticized him and his videos with rosanna pansini tipped me off to how much of a bad faith actor he is.
1 likeTo be perfectly honest, I did believe DogPack at first! Why? Well, there are multiple reasons. The biggest reason was probably the Chris Tyson situation that literally had just happened and it seemed like DogPack saw the opportunity to present some more serious stuff without being ridiculed/harassed online. Then there was the fact that SO many people were talking about it online which was how I found his video in the first place, and from my POV, this strengthened his creddibility. In my mind he didn't know he would blow up and since he didn't monetize the videos I genuinely thought he was speaking from heart. Logan Paul is a reason by himself! DogPack also claimed to be an ex MrBeast employee and it's my fault for looking past the point that he was FIRED! These reasons coupled with his excellent editing, dry sense of humor and David vs Goliath position, made me genuinely want to root for the guy. If you had asked me back then what I thought of his video (the first one) I would have said it was the best one this year due to the absolute bombshell it was!
4 likesThis got strengthened even further due to the MrBeast team's poor responses/lack there of. The fact that he was completely silent on the matter for such a long time and the fact that non of his employees could disprove anything substantual, and the whole Lunchly situation also simply added fuel to the fire (an anti-response even). Thankfully though, I didn't act on any of this in any way! I never mentioned it to anyone, never posted anything online, etc, etc. If I would have though, I likely would have aslo done some deeper reseach myself so we win some we lose some!
After some time though, I noticed people starting to call DogPack out but I didn't click on any of the videos since I had quite frankly moved on. This video however, opened my eyes to say the least so thanks! Genuinely great journalism (might as well call you SoggyZilla lmao), and even though you didn't cover everything, the things you missed were smaller things (things like the stuff the MrBeast team chose to respond to instead of the important stuff). Overall 10/10 video, watched all of it and I hope it blows up! This makes it even more apparent that MrBeast SHOULD respond! Keep going my man!
Also! I didn't get an ad when you said I would, now I feel scammed and you should expose yourself!
1:55 Ricegum content cop reference.
0 likesNow all we're waiting for is someone to do a deep dive on soggy cereal to and his exposition on dog pack 404, the plot thickens
0 likesbuddy, if youre paying the rent at least make a good video
0 likesYou really think someone would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?!!?!?!?!?
0 likes31:10 was about to say, like, has dogpack even watched the show, obviously not, its actually a pretty good anime highlighting a serious issue in japan, like what happens to the girl in the anime is actually happening to real kids and teenagers.
0 likesExtraordinary effort right there in this video ❤❤
0 likes51:27 the first girl has her name in her profile-picture visible which you didnt censor. nice work 🤓
1 likefair enough
1 likeWas there anyone else who found dogpacks first vid to be the best/most reliable, and that everything else just really felt really off afterwards?
3 likes1:05:59 wearing a technoblade hoodie is badass
2 likesAt this point you can be new Content Cop :P
0 likesdont mean to be a dawson glazer. but want to point out the hypocrisy of this video. you are disgruntled at dawson for what he said about you. you rebut your own statement of being manipulative when you are doing the same thing he is doing but directly insulting him. you have "witnesses" that can easily be reached and paid off by Mrbeast and so meaning you could have been too. im not saying all of them are not real. the 1million winner is indeed an out of context. and at the fake fan contestant is just a sloppy disgace of an excuse you could have picked any person and use them in an interview form and LIE for your video that the event was cancelled because of covid. while some of your evidence are plausible it is still alleged and just sound reasoning. a perfectly good way to fortify a lie. while you said just because you are targetting dawson doesn't mean you are siding with Mrbeast which you only called him once a piece of shit there. so it is not deniable that you are a affilliated with Mrbeast and just defending him. by calling out dawson. Dawson's videos are all interpreted as Alleged while it is snide and malicious of him to go beyond how he is that nitpick Mrbeast's action it is still evidence that he does those things. and when you said you got to look at the evidence you just called him a piece of shit. and not actually providing ACTUAL evidence yourself he is lying except saying Mrbeast would have say in this scenario. i am just skeptical of this video because of how it formatted and one sided it is portraying. you deliberately doing what Dawson is doing. except you leave no reason for people to think whether its true or not. atleast Dawson addresses that his statements are all alleged and can be open to interpretation that's why at the start of the whole Mrbeast Drama people are still siding with Mrbeast because Dawson could still be wrong. while you did a really great job disproving some of it. you still hold information that inside Mrbeast would have had. and have connection in Mrbeast's side. the old man that winked could have easily been paid by Mrbeast to say those things and people would believe it. right now this video is just putting a stalement on whose's side are actually wrong. so far you only proved Dawson is butthurt he got fired which he openly expressed that fact. and he used information that is open to the internet and does not break his NDA. you literally called him out for not breaking his NDA which is illegal something Dawson repeatedly said wont do. and while this may sound like im siding with Dawson but i don't see how the fact Dawson is benefitting from this drama. so far he has 3 video that is only monetized at the 2 video and made 2 friends that also hate Mrbeast. a former employee that literally got tortured at the set and didn't get paid for it. and a youtuber that's war freak on destroying Mrbeast's image because she was edit out of a Mrbeast challenge. so it is understand why they are war freak on destroyog Mrbeast's image but like Dawson said look at the evidence. it seems that it still stands. this video just elaborately explained what Mrbeast's PR guy at twitter said 2months ago. i dont think anything changed except some another big name made an hour and half long video nitpicking Dawson's statement.
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@@HannanAhmed-xf1uq i just reread my first statement. i literally said that " nitpick Mrbeast's action"
1 like@@HannanAhmed-xf1uq i did not in anyway or form implied or defer it in any way that Dogpack is not nitpicking Mrbeast's action. on contrary actually since Dogpack nitpick every little thing Mrbeast did and i think its satire at this point. but just because i said "his nitpicks" does not mean Dogpack did no wrong. i think he is indeed butthurt and a disgruntled employee of Mrbeast. ive always taught that and he didn't actually deny it nor accepted it. but Dogpack's video atleast has some "professionalism" to some level and actually form his statement from zero to everythingn he researched about. Soggy's video is based on the 3 videos and influence so far of Dogpack. meaning Soggy's video point is to discredit Dogpack's statement and create a new discourse and take away Mrbeast's blame. its just pointing out the hypocrisy of this video that he is implying Dogpack a scheming narcissist that would do and say anything to get his point across while doing the same thing in this very video.
2 likesi think this because it is certainly what Mrbeast would do to get the blame off him and clean his name by dirtying Dogpack's reputation. i mean look at the literal comment here. it is full of people saying that Dogpack is not to be trusted and he is the evil asshole all along.
People. think for yourselves. Mrbeast did something bad.
Dogpack was fired from Mrbeast team. he sought to seek revenge by exposing his lies to the people and exploits of the company.
and soggy cereal is exposing Dogpack's schemes and dirty method to get his point across.
i think it is indeed dirty and shitty of rossana to report Mrbeast and Dogpack not fact checking the C(heese) P(izza) before airing it all over the internet. but what this video is doing is the same. Anti-Mrbeast crew will see this and gonna make a reply for their video too. fueling more flame. like a great duck once said "the slop thickens"
@Fejable ok so according to you dog pack calling out Mr beast is not nitpicking, but soggy calling out dog pack is? Yeah, okay bud
0 likes@@DDArtsArts its all alleged. i am looking at this as a viewer perspective i dont know soggy cereal nor dogpack. it is just a speculation from this video.
1 like@@HannanAhmed-xf1uq you could except he's not a millionaire. and i did not say that soggy's point is invalid i stated several times it could have been true. but like as i said in my conclusion. it doesn't really add anything except call Dogpack an asshole. and point out his nitpicks. Dogpack's entire point is to expose Mrbeast's exploitative method in his videos. and as i got from this very video is that Soggy's point is just calling Dogpack an asshole and call out his manipulative schemes and adding more to the flames. and fortifying his statement by his own investigations. which is good since there's factual evidence for soggy to call him out on it. but majority of it are soggy actually glazing Mrbeast and defending him to a tee that it is possible that he could be a paid affiliate by Mrbeast for making this thorough video. its just comes off like a Mrbeast PR move of letting other attack on his behalf. Soggy is literally doing what Dogpack is doing. it is both slander and it is a malicious intent. except in Soggy's case he has no hat in the table he was just butthurt at Dogpack for insinuating Soggy's is wrong and stupid. so there is no motive for this video except make Dogpack look bad and use Dogpack's' own weapon against him. i want to state that im not trying to defend Dogpack nor trying to insult Soggy before this video i like Soggy's video and i am still skeptical of Dogpack's "evidence" its just pointing out that soggy is fighting fire with fire and the worst part is its not his fight.
1 likeedit: i dont think it should be stated what soggy didn't go through. like the gambling and the other evil stuff. i am pointing out the hypocrisy and the malicious intent of this video. its not pointing out Dogpack's mistakes and fact checking all of his evidence its about his delivery on it. it seems like he heavily imply that Dogpack is the evil person here and making it seems like Mrbeast is just an innocent Billionaire that was around people that wanted his money and got tricked into it. i think Mrbeast PR team actually monitored this video on how vile he should portray dogpack and fact check everything they can and throw ava kris under the bus as Mrbeast PR team instructed as Mrbeast already said in his tweets. like my original statement Soggy cereal just sounds like the PR Guy that tweeted the raccoon is not a paid actor.
Then by your logic, is it possible for me to say that all all the evidence from the former employees and contestants like jake etc in dog packs vid could also have been paid by dog pack to say whatever he wanted them to say? In this case, why would you take dawson's word over soggy's? In the end, all it comes down to is the actual FACTUAL evidence that both creators provided and imo soggy cereal provided way more convincing evidence, and i belive that he has done a way better job in making dawson look like an ahole than dogpack made jimmy look like. Some things dawson said are still valid, like the first lottery and also some of jake's treatment (which soggy acknowledged). In the end, other stuff like coffee aillas gambling video, the ava kris tyson situation and the charity stuff, and beast games was the stuff that dawdon should have brought up (also the two other points), but instead he lied, manipulated and went on a rampage against his former co-workers
5 likes"could have been paid by" "could have been paid by"🙄
3 likesThis video should have 1 million views already
5 likes"Don't be afraid to milk it, that's how the cereal gets soggy!" -GunnarTVLive, 2024
1 like57:41 what proof does this guy have that he competed ? soggy should have shown it in the video if he did have some proof
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@@batatah i never said that dogpack gets a pass , i just pointed out that he didn't show any proof in this particular section . its people like you who directly jump to conclusions without even understanding the full thing . and no dogpack doesn't get a pass and neither should soggy . this video is incredibly detailed so it just felt odd not including a solid proof in that particular section but i think im arguing with a wall so it doesnt matter
1 likeSame goes with almost literally every accusation DogPack made? Most of his proofs are "this person said". Why the double standards? Why does DogPack get a pass but this doesn't?
5 likes"I know that i was going to stop talking about Mr beast..." - every drama youtuber, 2024
0 likesW
1 likeTremendous video. You went above and beyond.
0 likesgg
0 likesStop Glazing Mrbeast omg
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He said himself that he's not on MrBeasts side either.
1 like@@batatah Honestly he probably just went straight to the comments.
2 likes@@drsamquantumI doubt he watched even a minute of the video
2 likesYou didn't watch the full video did you.
2 likesStop glazing DogPack and look at the evidence omg
10 likesSo does this mean Mr Beast is innocent?
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Of everything Dogpack said Pretty much, Everything else though No
0 likesNo they are both bad
0 likesNo, MrBeast and dogpack are both douches, but dogpack is being a whiney baby cause he got fired. I understand some of dogpacks claims are true, but there's much more that are false. MrBeast has done more good than bad, people are over exaggerating to be honest.
0 likesHe may be innocent of a lot of the shit dogpack's accused him of but he's still a shady person, the point of this video is to talk about how much of a fucking lying weasel dogpack is
0 likesYes!
0 likesYes-it does. It means people lie about Mr Beast for attention and sadly other people believe it! If Mr Beast took the time to address every BS allegation or sue every fool who lies, he’d never have time to get any work done!
3 likesnah
0 likesNot at all. It means that both DogPack and Mr. Beast are shitty people
9 likesThis is just a comment to boost engagement so this video gets more attention 👍
2 likesDude, I knew something was wrong with Dogpack404 cuz he just came up suddenly and exposed these details to us about mr.beast, but why didn't he do it before? Idk, it felt really off. But now, idk who to believe, should believe soggy or him? So for now ima still in the middle.
5 likes11:22 also just gotta point out, no it doesn't violate the Geneva Convention, that only applies to actions committed in a war, not a stupid challenge made for a YouTube channel. Could it have violated other international laws or national/state/county/local laws? sure, maybe, idk? but you would need to prove that and oh I don't know report it to the police.
1 likeTL;DR The Geneva Convention does not apply to anything domestic whether it be law enforcement/government or civilians, it ONLY applies to actions and decisions made in war.
i dont like the comments here attacking Jake Weddle personally. Like who cares if you find him funny or not. leave the man alone. Also, just bc dogpak presented the statement as not a joke, its clear to me that Jake thought of it as a joke bc he laughed the whole time he said it. Further, even if a person can leave, doesnt mean they will. Money is a powerful thing as Jake explains, and victims all the time feel trapped and people say "why didnt you leave sooner". Also, clearly mr. beast feels bad for what happened to Jake, or he wouldnt keep giving him money.
7 likesTLDR i just think Jake is a victim of mr. beast and dogpak and we shouldnt attack him personally
Although Soggy Cereal made sense on Delaware guy, Jimmy is still hiding identity and not changed, like Kris Tyson wearing a mask in that one MrBeast from the newer videos. You can clearly see that it is Kris. My little brother didn’t remember which video is it in the last time he checked but yeah, MrBeast is a disgusting man to still allow Kris in it. Other than that, great video
4 likesand the people in the comments spammin copy pasta "dogpack404 is not depressed" blah blah blah, as if mrbeast is gonna do something to him like come on
6 likesW
1 likeHi
0 likesLook at that, actual proper research.
2 likesYou are truly a narrcisist gaslighter and truly a evil person alltogether, your selfish and you always think you are the right person.
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@@Jul-fu4yu Oh sorry, didnt understand. Thanks for clarifying
2 likes@@Bobopoeshis talking about Dogpack
1 like@@goofydude how how there is a hour of research and inteviews
2 likes@ you don't understand😭
0 likesThis isn't dogpacks video
2 likes@@therussiancato toddler.
0 likesbro look at the video again there is a research
6 likessomeone got bullied at school today
5 likesCan you elaborate? I'm curious why you feel that way
7 likes" DOGPACK404 IS DONE"
6 likesThey both bad people
1 likeGetting current beast employees to debunk thigs that are physically provable is scandalous, I don't even have to watch the rest of this to know that. The pic of Jimmy with the shadman poster should be enough, intead we die on the hill. Comedy.
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@@cxokie9999 What a ridiculous black and white statement. No, you can deconstruct fake claims while still acknowledging someone is a predator.
0 likes@@cxokie9999 42:40
2 likes@@cxokie9999 this video is filled with exposing of Dogpack's errors that add up to more than just "a couple"
1 like@@AnotherAustin-z7b not to mention the slew of opportunities that come with working for Mr. Beast, the biggest YouTuber in the world, and the possible negatives that would come out in the industry if Jimmy spoke to people BTS to blackball him. All we know is what we can see at face value. Dogpack made a COUPLE errors in his argument, most of the rest is entirely undeniable to anyone except those with Beast copium disorder
1 likeIt's the same argument as rhe "disgruntled employee" argument. Acting like he is a hypocrite for trying to keep his job that he needs to literally just exist and have food and a place to live. Acting like it makes more sense to think someone who gets fired is going to go on a personal vendetta instead of just speaking out about the things that they wouldn't before because they couldn't because it was necessary to keep their job and source of income.
8 likesVictims of wage theft aren't believed all the time, even with evidence, because they get treated as disgruntled employees, but the fact is when someone has control over your only source of income they have complete control over you. If your job is forcing you to work overtime without overtime pay, you need that job and can't afford to speak out. And considering how likely it is that you report them and nothing is done about it and you put your job and career at risk for no reason, i don't know why people act like it's astonishing that a current employee is willing to lie to keep their job and an ex employee no longer needs to lie and cover for their former employer.
People almost always automatically side with the business, even though they are usually doing the shady stuff they are accused of. I've literally seen it happen personally multiple times.
@ when you attack the arguments of the victims, you are defending the predator, roundabout or not
2 likesPhysically provable? Also soggy isn't defending Jimmy
3 likesEven so I’m not resubbing to Mr beast because of lunchly
1 likeI think people just wanted to have their 'i knew something was wrong about him' moment lol, a lot of those allegations seemed fake since the beginning
2 likesMe : crying about how gullible I am 😢
0 likesyoure way better looking than dogpack too
2 likes1:25:45 i feel this same way with the new youtube ad system where the line goes for 5 seconds instead of the actual time of the ad, and cuz i have a chrome extension that has a feature for youtube where you can change the speed of a youtube video (even ads), it tricks me to just staying for a little while and get my 3 seconds that was wasted
1 likeStill looking for that "Reminder that DogPack is not suicidal" comment😂
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He'd be suicidal when he gets sued and there's no shrooms inside jail ☠️🙏🏻
1 likereminder that soggy cerial is not suicidal
2 likeslol is he still ?
3 likesWorst part of all of this is that ali koca can claim he was right about everything along and act like he did the research when in reality he was talking out of his ass
3 likesShill.
1 likeI like you, but not that much
0 likesThis should have way more views than it does after 15 hours
3 likesGOD DAMMITTT WE WERE PLAYED LIKE A DAME FIDELLLL
2 likesThis is some of the greatest journalism I have ever seen
4 likesLudwig react to this u controlled opp bit^ch as&
0 likesI would call Dogpack404 a monster but that would be offensive toward monsters
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DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN
2 likesI think you went too far on one point - people do expect the personal MB signatures on the T-shirts so it's a shitty thing to do, it does not matter whether those fake sigs were authorized. Otherwise, good job.
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@@chinyang1200 since I neither claimed that it's illegal nor did I state that he did not give his consent, you have not actually replied to anything written by me.
0 likes@@simo_viewer_pr9030 and I replied to that reply, saying that then you simply don't sell more of your initials than you can handle. Come on, even you can get it.
0 likesAnother guy in the replies already said that it's impossible for him to sign EVERY SINGLE SHIRT in one stream. It also sounds kind of dumb to call this behaviour "shitty", and the value is almost the exact same for a MrBeast fan. This just sounds like a far-fetched attempt to "cancel" him.
0 likes@@sergeyromanov5560 cause I don't see how It's much Of a problem . And It's not illegal also it shows he gave consent . But also Expecting to sign that much Without any problems is you people problem not his
1 like@@chinyang1200 yeah, no, when we see his signature - not those of his friends, but his - we do expect it to be literally his. I don't see why you see a need to defend him on this point, really.
0 likes@@sergeyromanov5560 the thing is Mr beast is not the one creating expectations though . We all have our own ideas and expectations of someone . Unless of course I missed something in that Live stream where he said he'll sign those shirts personally
1 like@@chinyang1200 then don't create the expectations, easy
0 likesWell tbf it's not illegal and holds the same value
1 likeMy defense for that is that . Can you sign hundreds if not thousand of shirts in one stream ? Cause I don't know if you know human anatomy, you'd be lucky to even able to move your hand after A few dozens shirts signed
4 likespls dont delete this vid 🙏🙏
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@ tru
0 likesBetter to download now
0 likesI feel real bad for Ro, girly is just doing her best
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Pffft i don't screw her
1 likeShe is evil narcissist
1 likethis guy took down air rack
4 likesnow dogpack
crayzzzzyyyyyyy
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@@just_a_n0rmal_person yeah i made one before watching but did not send it and then sent another after
0 likessecond comment is also very crayzzzzyyyyyyy
1 likeand the lore goes deeeeeeeeeeperrrrrrrrrrrr
0 likesat this point i don't know who's side to be on
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You don't need to be on anyone's side. This isn't a complete black and white situation, it's a LOT greyer. Both are pieces of sh3t
1 likewell done. glad to see that dipshit getting called to the mat on his insanely irresponsible reporting.
1 likeTHE PLOT THICKENS
0 likesCant wait for another video by a completely different youtuber "I worked with soggy he's a fraud" and the cycle continues
2 likesThis the craziest meat riding ive seen. Also isnt california a 2 party consent state, that unaware recording could be taken to court lmao.
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It's how the recording was framed in dogpaks video that's the problem. Lose the tunnel vision.
1 likeBeong lgal doesn't mean it's right, and doesn't erase the dubious ethics around framing it in a way that he was aware he was being recorded and was willingly handing over information to aid in the investigation when it was in fact not the case
0 likesWoah
0 likesdog pack seem to genuinely want to expose mr beast and his company but later on the fame got to his head and he started lying and shit :/
2 likesThis feels like the same situation as the Alex Rosen/EDP expose. Its a bad guy exposing a bad guy in a bad way
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Did you watch the Kris Tyson vs Jake Weddle fight?
0 likesEdp exposing Ava Kris Tyson
0 likesWell Alex Rosen has at least seemed to learn and substentially improve his approach following it. I still din't liie his personality o his politics but that's besides the point
0 likesDamn, Son. I guess we have the next Mr. Beast glazer. You must really want to be in a video!
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@@chinyang1200 Go and eat some mouldy lunch boxes :)
0 likes42:45
0 likesHorrible comment bro 🙏😂
1 likeThe most braindead of takes but sure, pop off
3 likesSays the Dogpack Glazer himself
1 like@@Tyne-w6che didn’t even start the video lol forget about the whole video
4 likessomeone didn’t watch the whole video
8 likespegasus gonna milk this story to the grave
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@@PParsa Lmfao true
1 like"it's over for dogpack404"
2 likes"The dogpack404 situation is crazy"
"Dogpack404 lied"
Jake weddle and looking into him, was what made me suspicous
1 likei like my dog packed bruh
2 likesHold up so who is in the right
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None in a way . Mr beast still has a lot of problems but Dogpack is Definitely in a lot of wrong considering The amount of lies , False accusations and Manipulation.
1 likenone of
0 likesboth are bad
0 likesnobody
8 likesDogpack is shivering
1 likeGreat video , well researched video , thank you for sharing this
3 likesOne thing we can't deny about Dogpack is that he definitely knew his stuff when it comes to using psychological manipulation for getting viral videos and that his imagination is beyond the norm because he was able to string up a pretty wild believable story that not only went viral but started a whole movement or genre of Mr Beast hate content.
2 likesI totally believed 90% of the stuff he said and I'm usually skeptical about a lot but this was a well played con.
Kuddos to you Cereal for doing the hard work that millions weren't willing or never going to do.
lol the name of the video changed while I was watching it
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true
0 likesIs this… actual journalism
5 likesI’m gonna remain neutral on this one. In no I way I’m defending Mr beast or dogpack but I’ve had theories on both of them for starters dogpack I think with this video coming out I think 80 percent he might be lying which is a high chance that he could be making these false claims unless he provides evidence that can counter soggy critiques he’s fucked along with others.
4 likesFor Mr beast he could be innocent but the fact that he hasn’t responded to all of the allegations. And only has responded via his lawyer on that one tweet it’s pretty suspicious and he has a lot of stuff at him which is pretty damming . It’s a far stretch theory but what if he’s using a deceitful tactic called false feeding which is a dirty tactic used to manipulate the accuser into feeding them false information which could set them up for troubles. It’s a scummy tactic but also can work especially when there being faced with accusations.
Whatever interpretations you take is on your opinions I said my piece.
Bruh
0 likesbetter not delete this one
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Deleted a slop vid to leave a fucking Magnum Opus. I say that's a good trade.
1 likeidk why he deleted the slop content vid
2 likesNot watched this yet but don’t talk negatively about anything in first 13 minutes of dogpacks vid
0 likesWhy the fuck are you supporting Mr beast
2 likesEdit: PICK A SIDE HOLY SHIT FO YOU LIKE MR BEAST OR NOT
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@ why yall so pissed like holy shit not my fault he made fun of dogpack in the beginning
0 likes@@Vibingincorndogs Go back to school lil kid
1 like@ I like fighting
0 likes@ I’m lying?
0 likes@Ivan-qf4mt u right I don't take close looks at peoples accounts before commenting 💀
1 like@@Vibingincorndogs bait used to be believable fam, gonna give you A for effort. Because if you're not here to troll, that would be just sad.
0 likes@@Vibingincorndogs lil bro literally sobbing over being called a liar.
1 like@@Ivan-qf4mt you arent wrong
0 likes@ why you mad at me for not liking a predator supporter fR
1 like@cats9994 This is a literal child. Don't expect much, lil bro mixed up his minecraft video with this
3 likes@ yeah I don’t like the thought I like soggy tho
0 likes@@Vibingincorndogsyou feel like commenting on a video that you haven't even watched? surely you must see how biased that makes you look right?
2 likesah yes bringing up evidence that ruins dogpack's accusations against mr beast is supporting mr breast
2 likesLet go of Dawson's cock for a second and you'll see he is critical of both
4 likes@ don’t feel like it
2 likeshe says multiple times throughout the video that he's not supporting mrbeast. please look at the evidence he provides against dogpack and actually watch the video
10 likesat the very end of the video, he says some bad things about Mrbeast
11 likesThank you for this...The truth. I'm not pro-mrbeast, I just want the truth. Unbiased truth.
1 likeNow i know what makes the cereal so soggy. Gluck gluck 9000
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Dude??
0 likes@@JakeWeddle jake weddle crashout 💀
0 likesanother unfunny comment by unfunny 'comedy' writer Jake Weddle. womp womp
0 likes🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅🍅
0 likesSpare some salt for my food
0 likesSigh
1 likeYour ig crash out was funnier than any of your stand up
2 likesNo response to the points made. Just a sub-par fellatio joke. You got exposed Mr. Weddle. Time to pay the piper.
4 likesput the fries in the bag bro
4 likesComing from the guy who took money from MrBeast and then had a meltdown on IG being like “if anyone dares question me again, let’s just say it’ll be an awkward reunion with my PDF file dad”
5 likesIgnore all the positive comments 🙏❤
5 likes@JakeWeddle you glucked your dad.
2 likesAww is Jakey Wakey mad because his best friend got proven to be lying about most of this allegations, Bro grow The F up, your an adult.
7 likesPretty lame response for someone whose whole existence can be summed up as just a disgruntled ex-employee. You can’t refute a single claim, and this is a pathetic way to dodge accountability.
8 likesYou will never make it in comedy give up little bro 😹
6 likesbro liked his own comment
9 likesyour comment has one like.
2 likesI've been telling you since DAY ONE Jake that you're obviously a scumbag opportunistic grifter. Glad everyone has the proof now
Are you gonna delete this comment and run away?
5 likesyour attempts to slander Mr Beast failed just like your comedy career
17 likeswomp womp!
Great analysis and rebuttal of the video Jake.
8 likesGet out😊
6 likesGet lost bro
6 likesBoo! Jake get lost. You are whiny baby man always have been always will be.
5 likesThis is really all you have to say? God you are a pathetic sad human being that is a failure of a comedian and if loosing over 100k on OPEN MIC's isn't evidence enough you are a failure then nothing ever will convene you. You're parents did you a disservice by lying saying you are funny.
10 likesi think ur tweaking
7 likes@@JakeWeddle you know, I think you and Def Noodles might be a banger duo comedy needed, hit him up.
2 likes@@Groove_Gamer he is a manchild so that one is pretty on point.
4 likesI hope you haven't been thinking about this video for the past 9 hours
20 likesthis is what people do when they get exposed. Shouldve thought before lying multiple times. Throwing allegations can ruin lives yknow? Go hang out with your friends that publish what they think is cp on their thumbnails.
23 likesyour little gang defaming jimmy and grifting off him is done go back to your failed comedy career your buddy even said the war crime thing was a joke nicely saying it was all on you for that challenge others did if fine LMFAO
19 likesRemember when jake gluck gluck on mr breast shaft for some sweet 50k?
19 likesThis is your childish response?
27 likesDude, you just got a new asshole. Take it in stride.
12 likesweddle boutta crash out again
29 likesShouldve taken all the money and went casino
31 likesYou’re so salty lol
39 likesjust a reminder: this is a grown adult
38 likesBruh I can't watch a one n half hour vid
0 likesThe fact this man just exposes doggpack is crazy
5 likesThe situation couldn't become any more of a shit sundae than it already is 💀💀
2 likesAli Koca is probably having a smile of relief after seeing this
Close enough, welcome back Content Cop
3 likesSmoking that dogpack
1 likeGolly this is insane
0 likesI like that Reed was censored 1:10:50
0 likesFair, but how do we know for sure mrbeast didn't pay you to make this video? He follows you on instagram and I swear that is a recent thing.
1 likenotice how every time he makes a video he says I worked with mr beast
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0 likes22:02 nuh uh they made that in unreal engine 50
0 likes48:05 I got an ad right here😂😂😂😂
1 likeSoggy be like: "Imma make a 1+ hour long video so nobody can say I make slop videos"
5 likes13:47 so it’s ok to do that to people who are not incarcerated. People who are detained, get the lights off. The video is good, but come on, that’s B.S. arguement
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Came here to say this. Just because it's not a "war crime" doesn't mean it isn't a human rights violation. Semantics are irrelevant when you're discussing traumatic experiences, and harping on every possible slip up is frankly insulting to someone with trauma brain who can't even remember last week.
0 likesI’ve been waiting sooooooo long for this
2 likesWhy do you talk like that? You're not being entertaining, just annoying asf.
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Dude why is the guy in your profile picture black? I dont like it, just annoying asf.
1 likeno one is forcing you to watch lmao
3 likesYk people have accents 😭😭
15 likesI just want to say that when you made the airrack videos i 100% believed you but when the dog packed video came out it just didn't feel right so i am happy that you clarified my believes
1 likeIn my opinion, dogpack is pretty useless but we still have to admit that mr bust is a bad guy, at least the man made us discuss mr breasts actions
4 likesWell well well. How the turntables...
4 likesto the people who has opinins: I dont want to hear ur opinions anymore just sitback and see what happens next.
0 likesBut why jimmy would delete his old live stream back in Facebook and edited most of his old videos here on YouTube?
1 likewhy did I fr think idubz was back to making peak
0 likesYAY I CAN FINALLY EAT CEREAL AGAIN!!!
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But it isnt soggy :(
0 likesJesus Christ why does this entire MrBeast situation have to have so many twists to it!? Can we just leave this situation alone until someone unbiased and somewhat more competent than DogPack404 can commit to actual investigative journalism please!?
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Literally this video. Or else U can just make up your own unbiased opinion by hearing the opinions on both biased parties and draw a conclusion
1 likeI can't tell if youre being sarcastic or autistic
0 likesliterally this video
8 likesIn my opinion that's what this video is
6 likesDogpack has ironically done so much to undermine his own case. If he had just picked the topics he 100% could prove was immoral/illegal he would have so much more credibility. Instead he chose to stuff his videos with misrepresentation, irrelevant filler and SLANDER. What a fucking joke.
3 likesPegasus will have more cereal on his bowl of content
0 likesLegit don't undestand how people belived this guy, it was so bias and obvious.
2 likesThis video is amazing but the one mistake is that you think rosanna is getting manipulated by dogpack. No, she's very obviously playing into this, she's extremely salty that she lost a HIDE AND SEEK COMPETITION and from the beginning has been utterly obsessed with destroying mrbeast due to this minor slight. Dogpack and rosanna work in a symbiotic relationship where dogpack posts vids to her channel now as a proxy to avoid tarnishing his own channels perceived reputation by uncritical thinkers after the james warren DV allegations fell through
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She's also becoming a clown too which is amusing to watch. She had a nuclear meltdown in Nicholas DeOrio's stream and apparently advertised a site called WikiFeet
3 likesStop meat riding mrcheats , I know its hard out there but bills aren't that high that you have to meat ride mrcheats
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Bro has the time to listen to DogPack but doesn't have the time to listen to this dude. Also, he criticizes Mr. Beast in the video as well and makes it clear that both sides aren't good. Stop being deliberately obtuse.
2 likesYeah you didn't watch the video
10 likes1:03:53 not him calling Dutch a made up language 😭
0 likesI wonder how much control Mr Beast has in the lunchly mold situation. Ksi and Logan paul seem to get a lot of the brunt of that one maybe because their actively talking about it but I'd imagine Mr Beast has a fair amount of say in the background. Just to be clear I don't hate any of them and I more curious than anything. I don't really like the fact that massive youtubers with shady pasts don't really receive any particularly effective punishment from youtube. When you could almost certainly guarantee that if a small youtuber did half of what some of these big youtubers get away with their career would be obliterated.
0 likes39:18 you swearing tells us how mad you are at him
1 likedogpack404 massive views under 1day meanwhile soggy with the goated content not even 100k under 12hours
1 likeMrbeast wasn’t affected anyways
3 likesChecking in 13 hours later, how has this not blown up yet?
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I know right
1 likesup
0 likesDamn, I knew insert bad person was dodgy all along and that people were wrong about insert innocent person
1 likeSuperb work 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
0 likesI'm glad you brought up how Camnuggets saw legit CP on his end and admitted to it yet that somehow went under the rug.
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@@woodencat5990 Sure Cam saw it against his will and did right reporting the issue. However in a video called "CamNuggets On DogPack404 & MrBeast" by TrashTalk on YT; Cam had said he still stayed in the same discord with the kid flashing, and proceeded to hop on other calls immediately after reporting the kid. There was no implication that Cam had waited to confirm the mods had banned the kid, he kept using the server despite just seeing a kid flashing. There was a high risk that the kid was still in the server and expose himself. Trashtalk himself confronts him asking why he would not leave the discord and keep joining calls despite risking himself in a position to see CP again. Cam kept himself in a position to watch CP again, instead of being responsible to leave that discord server all together for at least that day. Cam got triggered in that interview that he quickly left, refuse to elaborate, and blocked Trashtalk on twitter. Don't believe me? More than happy to show the video I'm talking about with a time stamp.
0 likes@@woodencat5990He went into another video call afterwards, meaning that the minor could've easily followed him into the other call and done it again. He also attempted to falsely accuse a person named Gama of being a predator by purposely taking a tweet he made out of context to manipulate his audience. Also, he agrees that CP is fine so long as it's censored
1 like@@woodencat5990 So you've heard say he was ok with censored CP being put on Youtube and your still defending him. Weird hill to die but ok
1 like@@drsamquantum Ok, I found it. It is bad but I still think the framing in the video is still very bad. If anything using that clip would've been much more incriminating
0 likes@@drsamquantum Either way, even if that's true, 2 wrongs don't make a right
0 likes@@drsamquantum Imma have to look into that one
0 likes@@woodencat5990 About 2 weeks ago when he was asked if censored CP should be allowed on youtube.
0 likes@@drsamquantum When did he ever try to discredit soggy beyond pushing back on the accusation about him in the video?
0 likes@@anyona19 Bruh, he said he was looking at children's bum holes. I know how to read. Between the lines that is. You should learn that as well. Even if he didn'd say he was a PDF, the accusation and the way it's framed is still super f'd up
0 likes@drsamquantum When did he say that?
0 likes@@anyona19 I made a post on Cams community post, That's why they commented bear mind i never called Cam a PDF-File. What i actually said he was trying to discredit Soggy and i also called cam a grifter and a clout chaser.
0 likes@@woodencat5990 He said he was ok with censored CP being spread around the internet.
1 like@@woodencat5990they never called cam a pedo dude, learn to read
0 likes@@drsamquantum May I ask why you think falsely accusing someone of being a PDF file or insinuating it without concrete proof is in any way justified?
0 likes@@woodencat5990 No, he hid it it, like he always does.
1 like@@drsamquantum Did you delete your comment on his community post?
0 likesPlus he's trying to use that to discredit the video and what's worse is that his audience is falling for his BS.
2 likesWhat do you MEAN bro? From my understanding, this was on a public call where the kid did that uprompted and he reported him. Unless there's something I'm missing, in which case please feel free to enlighten me. What do you expect someone to do in that situation? Do you understand why watching CP is even bad in the first place? If he saw it against his will, didn't seek it out, and reported it after the fact, what is there that's worth exposing? That's so stupid. It's the one problem I have with this otherwise great video. I seriously don't understand this logic
0 likes32:35 Wow wow wow.. hold up. The video was really good up until this point, but you can't just gloss over this sort of thing without elaborating. In the screenshot that you're showing, he is seen reporting this case after the kid flashed him supposedly unprompted. Chastizing DogPack for slanderous miainformation while doing this is incridibly hypocritical. This is an extremely serious claim which you have failed to prove. Like I said, the video was really good up until that point, but this just puts a huge dent in all of it. Unless you have more information that you're for some reason no showing, I'd suggest cutting that part out, retracting it and apologizing to CamNuggets. This is f'd up man
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@samthehamn pay
0 likes@ yap
0 likes@samthehamn ye
0 likes@ yet you keep replying
0 likes@@samthehamn yup, and you're the unruly leader of it
0 likes@@woodencat5990 yap fest
0 likes@tanvirsourav83 ye, good for him
1 like@@woodencat5990 yeah he did a interview and admitted his mistake and told to remove that part. Good u did mentioned but Soggy did his part 👍🏻
2 likes@@tanvirsourav83 I think he removed it, my bad
1 like@@woodencat5990 yes
1 like@@woodencat5990 i think it's removed now
0 likes@@woodencat5990check again? Is it cut out?
0 likes@@samthehamn ok
0 likes@@tanvirsourav83 I had a timestamp in the comment, watch
0 likes@@Dragonlegend-im5so ),:
0 likesWhat cam nugget part?
0 likes@ ok
0 likes@@woodencat5990ok thanks, it was just the wording that got me confused
0 likes@ huh? who are you talking to? all i hear is pointless yapping
0 likes@@Dragonlegend-im5so not ok ):<
0 likes@ ok
0 likes@@Dragonlegend-im5so ok
0 likes@ ok
0 likes@@Dragonlegend-im5so 👍
0 likesNo offense taken btw, thank you for being polite though I suppose
@ ok
1 like@@samthehamn Sure buddy, do whatever you want. No one is stopping you. But nobody is stopped from thinking your replies are valueless either
1 like@@Dragonlegend-im5so I didn't say it ruined the entire video, I said it put a dent it it
0 likes@@woodencat5990 damn it’s crazy! i don’t care!!! i can comment when ever i want to, i don’t need your permission 😭
1 likeAre you trying to say this specific part ruined the entire video? No offense
1 like@deanbroxham Him saying "your friend Cam Nuggets looks at kids' a holes" while showing a screenshot of him tagging a deleted user presumed to be a mod, reporting him saying he flashed it during the call. Which btw I found out there is an incriminating clip of him debating another YouTuber saying he thinks censored CP can be justifiably shown in videos (regarding the DogPack Rosana situation) and being generally morally inconsistent and weird when pressed on it, so idk why Soggy didn't just use this one instead of showing him literally reporting a kid who flashed in a public call to mods, framing it as if he was seeking it out. Or just generally why he included him, seems unnecessary. It looks like he just didn't like him and was looking for an excuse to take a jab on him
0 likes@@deanbroxham Soggy claimed Cam to be a ρedo from Cam's discord message when he was notifying the mods a minor flashed their butthole in VC, and according to Cam himself that was him reporting the minor to the mods while Soggy claimed this was Cam being a ρedo.
0 likesWhat exactly are you talking about?(not tryna berude just genuinely unsure)
0 likes@tristynallen8747 I think the rest of the video is good as well, but this short bit put a sour taste in my mouth because it seems hypocritical
3 likesDo you mean just that segment, or the rest of that video, because in my opinion the rest of the video is good.
0 likes@samthehamn Literally no one is forcing you to enagage if you have nothing of value to say
8 likes😴
1 likeIdk how soggy comes in and makes everyone else look so dumb. In another life this guy should have been a detective
0 likesThe truth is simple. Mrbeast is a scammer... Dogpack is a typical Mrbeast employee, delusional.
1 likenot surprised that dogpack was guilty, just surprised alikoca was correct
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Alikoca whole argument was ad hominem and saying mrbeast is a good guy because he does charity.. cough.. cough Epstein ahh defense
6 likesRegardless of some misinformation on dogpacks side, MrBeast is still not a good person
0 likesKinda funny how that video aged so well.
0 likesidk the cereal might be soggy who knows
0 likesTHE RETURN:
0 likesWhere is the sloppy cereal channel unless it was a joke?
1 likeSoggy I was waiting for your video on this drama from the beginning.
1 likesoggy, not related to the drama but the amount of research you do for your videos is extremely impressive. Keep up the good work.
2 likesDogpack weird asf for forcing you to make a video on mr beast ngl
32:00 also, do you really think jimmy sended the suggestion in terms of how the anime actually is? or just based on a small synopsis of the anime and how it just said "26 yo man and 17 yo girl, alright send it to chris"
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mr beast is an anime fan so theres a really good chance that he watched that anime before sending it to chris
1 likewhy are you assuming the intentions if they havent been said? He still misinformed about the anime and it should be called out.
0 likesI really just want all of this to go to court .
0 likesSloppy proves that he is smarter then Majority of "Slop" content.
1 likemy anger boiled when he brought up digimon in that video since that's my entire childhood
0 likes1:23 this some skate 3 shit
0 likeswatched all of this last night and was super impressed with the amount of detail and effort put into it all. checking here this morning i was thinking it would have more views. and I'm curious which youtubers will make a video about this video. anyways, good job man.
4 likesyour the only one i can truly trust in these types of things
0 likesMrBeast needs to send 200k for this video. Insane breakdown
0 likesThis video better blow up like dogpacks video
1 like21:45 this is a super bad take, no matter the "size" of the meal, a kid is gonna eat the chocolate no matter what.
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Nope. Feastables sells smaller portions. If you do the math, Feastables is much healthier than Hershey's when comparing the same portions and Feastables usually sells the smaller portions more anyway.
1 like@@swaylikesmusic Hersheys: 220Cal / 43g = 5.12Cal/g
1 likeFeastables: 320Cal / 60g = 5.33Cal/g
as for the sugar:
Hersheys: 25g / 43g = 0.58g of sugar/g
Feastables: 30g / 60g = 0.5g of sugar/g
Conclusion: He was right about the calories, but wrong about the sugar.
you have to do proper comparision to say which one has more calories though.
1 like@@vitalepitts that is correct, the child is gonna eat whatever chocolate is put in front of him, i really doubt if is small or big hes gonna eat it anyway, so feastables is not doing any good on this part.
2 likesthey make larger hersheys bars as well. Should have compared like sizes regardless
3 likesClose enough, welcome back iDubbbz
2 likesBro single handedly fed the entire commentary community
3 likesur the goat for not taking sides and just showing what the reality it
1 likeSoggy, please, for the love of god, change the title and thumbnail. No one is clicking on this right now.
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@ and it’s clearly not working
0 likesHe's moreso doing the Content Cop - Jake Paul tactic: Make people believe it's about said person in the vid when in reality it's about another person (in iDubbbz's case, it's RiceGum). It's done to give the vid more attention.
2 likesMorePegasus!! wake up!!! a new pay check just got dropped!!!
0 likesAmazing video !
0 likes1 AND A HALF HOURS?!?!?!??!?!?!!?
0 likesDayum, I didn't expect such a insanely long video from my boy Soggy but boy was it worth, I can't even start to imagine how much time it went into this, I hope it can help a lot of people see the reality of things.
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Replying for the algorithm
0 likes15:30, don't get your point cereal boy, what's wrong with wanting money? don't act like you did the same by making your "slop content" video memborship only when you yourself said that it was a bad video. Oh and you got sponsored by raycons, which is basically a scam brand. I wouldn't say that that is wrong though, nothing wrong with money, just a bit hypocritical
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Is this a troll comment or is it really serious
0 likesSoo you are ok spreading misinformation and out of context information for money
0 likesHe's an idiot, this puts everything he's said into question now.
1 likeWhen the jake weddle video released i just though why is he so sad? he got paid $10,000/day. I would love getting sleep deprived for that much, already am sleep depriving myself for free
0 likesI love how soggy cereal wakes up one day and says "lets just save youtube"
2 likesContent Cop? You didn’t even say a single racial slur?
1 likenot accurate enough, would be a more believable content cop if the dollar bill would be a can of pickles and you eat them after dumping them into the trashbin. i watched waaay too many content cops and can instantly spot these flaws.
2 likesI mean yeah, I'm not shocked, the truth is somewhere in the middle between superficial appearances and exaggerated knee-jerk reactions. The dogpak insight is new, but anyone that acts like any of this drama bullshit has to be black or white, is either (hopefully) a kid, or just needs a hobby at this point.
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Agreed, most of the situation is a huge gray area, with a few specks of white and black mixed in between.
0 likes1:50 tanki online sound effect
0 likesDon’t really watch the video, all i can say is "wtf is bro yapping about?"
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what?
5 likesThank you for your hard work. Justice were served.
1 like35:51 This is one of the best dogs.
0 likesI genuinely believe soggy more than the president (Soggy save USA) (I'm not american)
0 likesWE HAVE TOSHOW THIS TO MR BEAST THIS IS GOLD
2 likessoggy clears everyone again
0 likesW vid
0 likesReally good video! Nice job I’m subbing 👍
2 likesPlease upload the longer interviews
0 likes1 year ago it was airrack...now look where we are
2 likesThis the TEMU version of IDubbz?
0 likesDogpack will deny the accusations like how drake did in the heart part 6
1 like19 or not he WAS running a channel that was promoted heavily to kids and at that age you should definitely know to check on people you hire for that kind of channel. Doesn't he brag about being the most knowledgeable YouTuber?
0 likesfix the dss in helldivers 2 i beg
1 likewait, i thought most of dogpack's video was a meme. Like i've stopped taking him seriously after he started calling everything cgi.
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lmao same, I literally thought it was a joke until i opened twitter and got bombarded with 5 trillion people talking about it
0 likesVery, very good video, is your discord still up? I get 'invite expired'
0 likesThis is what most people expected I think. Thank you for doing actual fact checking instead of blindly trusting things!
3 likesThe war crime accusation was never an accusation. It was clearly a joke imo. There was no war.
0 likesThe opening brought such a smile to my face, well done
2 likes36:04 awwww look at that little fella 🥰
0 likesMovie length soggy cereal video we eating good.
4 likesThe video of the year 🗣️🔥🔥
0 likesWhat we do here is go bacc🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
0 likesDoes it matter if Dogpack is lying or not? MrBeast is a right winger and a pos, why are you trying so hard to destroy Dogpack lol that'll just give Jimmy another W. Sorry Soggy but this video here is a slop.
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People can't distinguish alt-right and right-wing anymore
0 likesthanks for telling us Mr Beast is a right winger, surely a very valid criticism. And yes, it matters whether he is lying or not. Just cause he is shady doesnt mean you slander him with lies. Also dogpack has pretty much destroyed himself repeatedly over his own videos by spreading misinformation, this is just a final touch.
4 likeswhy did bro get political😭😭😭
7 likesHe's not defending MrBeast, he's just calling out the lies and misinformation spread by Dogpack. He still shows how MrBeast is just generally a shitty person.
17 likesskeri right wing 😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😔😔😔😔😔😔😨😨😨😨😨😨
3 likesI was kinda upset about your last vid (the slop vid) but this vid made me remeber why i considered you one of the best "news" channels on yt
1 likethanks for the informative investigation atleast the other accusation about jimmy have proof now, if you can can you do the other(Non-Dogpack accusation) investigation too like him being a crypto scammer, not paying the owner of the non-profit that made the surgery in jimmys video curing blind(i know he paid him jus this nov 1 but it still takes 2 year just t o pay the man)
1 likedidn't he insult dog pack404 in the last video? this kinda weird
0 likesGreat video dude 👏. If this vid does not push Soggy to (at least) 1M subs. I will be shocked.
3 likesim not watching this but idc what dogpack did if the discord leaks were real then all of them are pedos or at least supporters of pedos. no normal or even "edgy" people just constantly joke about kids like that.
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@@scarletrotten umm bro, with all due respect, are you dumb? you first comment how you didnt watch the video, now according to you, there is no new info in this video?
0 likes@@swaylikesmusic not new info if you watch pegasus, nux, or any of the other slop channels. at least he changed the title from "Content Cop" lol
0 likes@@scarletrotten there is literally new info every single minute. How is that slop? Also, dogpack's friend too makes these edgy jokes in his discord serves. The cams guy. he is a gooner.
0 likes@@AmazingMarioPlushFilms this isn't a content cop, it's content slop. no new info, he just took videos from others already milking the topic. discord leaks/chats are real meaning all the "edgy" jokes against kids or about SA still applies. that's only the chats that were recovered since they nuked their entire discord after being exposed.
0 likesBro's commenting on a video he didn't even watch
0 likesAre attention spans this low nowadays? 😭
watch it bruh, your concern is literally a part of the video. (and yeah, it got disproved)
3 likesjust watch it he disproved it -_-
1 likeCould you put the reciepts in the description, links to the wayback youtube video, the reddit user and other things
1 likeThank you Soggy 🙏🏼🎉
2 likesCan all my favorite youtubers stop pulling themselves into this mr beast drama?
0 likesIf we can say it about dog pack I'll say it here too. Your not a journalist, to cry at someone for not being a journalist while you yourself have equal knowledge is stupid. This video felt like it was posted more for views and attention then true information
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Did you not watch the video?
0 likesThere's literally receipts, contestant testimonies, interviews and behind the scenes footage.
Stop being so disingenuous.
Great video, imo you should've touched a bit on the philanthropy CGI hospital situation though, like was that also slander or what?
3 likesactually, good video or not, I cannot say, not for me to judge, but who would have thought, it is as it always goes: guy makes a video against his old boss, boss gets angry, puts out multiple videos by people he trusts and who he paid to make it more believable, guy reacts with another (maybe slandering ) video, boss gets even more angry, pays even more people to slander back, guy finally gives another video with even more slander, boss is bursting at the seams, trying to have him sent a cease and desist, makes more slandering videos through proxies about the former employee (here the guy), guy answers with friends who make videos with lots of misinformation and made-up accusations to higher up the game against the boss, boss is at his final straw, sending out even more harsh videos with even more brutal dismantle tactics and words... 🤡🤓 and that is where we just are at the moment. I guess the chronology is more or less right, we do not need to be too careful about that ...🤭
0 likes*bigyawn*🤪🥱😪😴 Ladies and gentlemen, this is the series, " disgruntled employee on weird platform slanders his weird old boss who answers back regularly with even more slander through his secret proxies", every Saturday on the same program, as always... to be continued. 🥺😅☺
bro 0 dislikes is crazy
0 likes1:38 mom the neighbors kid is digging in the garbage again
0 likesThis masterpeice caused me to relapse on slop content.
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There has been a drought since the US election
0 likesDidn't address the crypto and the charity concerns. Lets continue farming Mr Breast.
1 likeHonestly this taught me out of everything to be neutral, until the drama ends i am not taking sides, its the best for me and definitely everyone else that is not caught in the drama, i might watch everything once the drama is over and i have time to watch a drama video without more news every single day, but from how much there is to this specific drama, i might as well just stay neutral forever.
1 likeWhat the fuck is happening anymore
3 likesThe bowl of soggy cereal is tasty today. So glad I subscribed
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However, Coffezilla's video is newer and covers the critical allegations against Jimmy with his rug pulls (allegedly).
0 likesIdc I hate mrbeast till I die, I finally found a reason to hate that guy and now it's getting away. Hell naw.
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@@sharkeking9742 Elaborate lmfao
0 likes@PParsa Buddy I am from those times where 0.01% people hated him. I think it's 2020-2022 and I don't hate him doing good things like donating shits but still I hate him as a person.
0 likeshate him, no ones gonna stop you. Just don't be surprised if people dont agree with you
0 likes@@Navaneeth-hv9sh the fuck you mean
0 likesOk
0 likesit doesn’t matter, delaware used to be a manager, he shouldn’t have the thought of children in his mind
6 likes15:38 spelling mistake lol(staid)
0 likeslove the vid
Hah my baby cousin said no at the same time 1:18:11
1 likefinally people can stop glazing dogpack
6 likeswhy do all of you zoomers have the same haircut, tf is up with that?
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@@manikchris3638 3 whisps and the different miniscule variations between using a straight and curling iron doesn't change the base haircut.
0 likesThis is not common at all?
0 likesHow is this not bigger??
2 likesSoggy proving time and time again that he's one of the few actual journalists that look at things from both sides.
3 likesSoggy is just the best creator of u agree double tap my comment 👌🤝🗿
4 likesall i hope for is that people will not make mr beast innocent after this, while still taking in that both aren't good people
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So why is MrBeast not good ? What has he done wrong?
0 likesthis is getting way too confusing for me
1 likei knew dogpack was up to no good when that first video came out
2 likesglad someone else that i can trust talked about it
Mr beast just FINISHED inside me, you won't believe what happens!
1 likeIt's awkward because the video CoffeeZilla released
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@@thepolticalone961this was obviously in the making for a long time, he even talked about the coffeezilla video multiple times, and he also said that he wasn't knowledgeable about crypto so he couldn't research that.
0 likes@@thepolticalone961 he listed Coffee's video itself... What else u want?
0 likes@@tanvirsourav83 releasing this video before the CZ video was a dumb move. Soggy failed to even address the bad things MB has done despite claiming he would
4 likes@@thepolticalone961 slandering DogPack isn't the same as defending Mr.Beast
1 likeYou the GOAT:) doing gods work
1 likeWhat a time to drop this right as coffeeezilla exposes Mr. Beast
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@@Hugo2Me bro sounds like DogPack... Why U need to say it if Soggy himself mentioned Coffee's video at the end
0 likes@@erikshields3724 how does that tell whether or not I watched the video? I was just saying 🤣
0 likesI can tell you didn’t watch the video because right at the end he mentioned coffeezilla
0 likes@@Hugo2Me 1. No proof of direct Jimmy's involvement
2 likes2. DogPack slander≠ Defending Mr.Beast
tbh I don't care, am just tired of seeing mrbeast for years now
1 likejust say u like em young 😭🙏
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@@roamingslayer54 bro, watch the video before you say anything lil child
1 like@ he’s defending mr jimmy diddy beast
0 likesBRO, you accuse him of being a pdf? You're really not the smartest one around or in the top 100%
8 likesI can't wait for morepegasus to make 10 videos about it
0 likesYohello😂
1 likeSomething that’s sad is they soggy will never get even half as many proof as dog pack even tho he is saying the truth also @soggycerealz can u please address the allegations of the female working experience in Mr beast
1 likePlease change the title to dogpack, more people need to know this
7 likesi hate both of them
0 likesnow this is my content cop
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i am so mad at myself for just blankly believing dogpack :/
0 likesthank you for snapping me out of it LOL
Honestly, without even watching much of Dogpack's stuff, something about him always just rang false... I know that's easy to say now but I did also say so in the comments of Philip Defranco videos from the time those videos were coming out. He just never seemed to have any... I dunno, backbone, or something.
1 likeCouldnt afford to fly anything4views to sweden i gusse
0 likesi have a feeling that people like Pegasus are not going to talk about this video
0 likesim hungry
0 likesJesus loves all of you✝️
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Na
0 likesMOGGY CEREAL W
0 likesWhile this guy is jumping into trash cans his gurl friend is busy becoming or being a therapist i think.
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In the trash can this guy found dog packs whole plan tho
0 likesThis info i gathered is from his video about better help
0 likesStop glazing MrBeast
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@thepolticalone961 Clearly you didn't watch the whole video. Soggy acknowledges that MrBeast isn't an angel. You're not proving a point, you're just being disingenuous.
0 likes@thepolticalone961 like?
0 likes@@Daymare19 you realise MB has done way worse stuff listed in the video but Soggy failed to mention them...
0 likesStop glazing Dogpack
0 likesAnd there's person that just wants to hate.
1 likebro cooked
0 likesthe spiritual sequel to "content cop - jake paul"
0 likesThe way I believed everything that Dogpack said is crazy 😭, I genuinely never suspected anything but this is really shocking.
3 likesLet’s gooo !!! Belgium solved the problem !!!
2 likesCan someone summarize the video for me?
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So basically he debunked EVERYTHING Dogpack said about mrbeast. with hardboiled evidence.
0 likesIt was worth waiting for 3 weeks, good job 😮👍👍👍👍
2 likesbro i like that you aint a sheep that just follow what every body thinks
3 likesFinally an anti-beast video not riding the manipulative asshole DogPack is
3 likesThe slop channels going to have a field day with this one😂
0 likesJeez, this has changed my whole view on dog pack. He might just be as bad as mr beast .
1 likeSUMMERY OF THE WHOLE VIDEO read if you like
3 likesdelaware stuff i dont really agree with this video cuz its very nitpicky and jake is a cousin or some shit to delaware so he self reported here so that section was kinda weird. in the war crimes section i do agree jake weddle is pure BS here. i am kinda hung up on illigal lotto section cuz like yea desclaimer was in description but kids joined that mr beast encouraged it. debunking everything section i dont care. flase CP alligation yea i agree that video by rosana was full of shite. collatoral damage section i do agree. the mack section do not care but yea still feels rigged and that was the point. more debunking section I DONT CARE. locoya hill section, yea like can we get it checked if the audio recording is AI or no cuz it feels extreamly convinient and that still doesnt disprove the lokoya hills alligation. in the section u just said "yea dawson hates him cuz he fired him" and moved on so that section was weird. the rest i do agree with you like yea man 1 + 1=2 no shite. the employee interview section i dont trust any words they spout cuz they still work for mr beast so thay could be lying and they are glazing the mr beast corpo so hard its insane so i dont care bout that section
OVERALL: guys dont trust the internet. please come to ur own conclution. cuz like dogpack could be full of shite, jake weddle could be (kinda is) full of shite and soggy could be too , u dont know these people
dogpack404's third video is gone wtf, is that a result from this video
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@i__023one4 damage was done at that point
0 likes@@Daymare19 i noticed, it was deleted on november 7
0 likesmaybe it got deleted because of the lack of research hinders him so bad in the third video
It was gone before it
0 likesHe made sure the maximus the views before deleting it
0 likesI still don't like Mr Beast. Both are equally unlikeable and trashy people.
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@@VRVegeta cool
1 like@@tanvirsourav83 I don't.
2 likesU don't need to like him, but at least not spread fake accusations abt him
1 likeI can insure you MorePegasus isn't gonna talk about this
0 likesyou really outdid yourself on this one soggy
2 likesWhere did your accent go on the one to one interviews?
0 likesI knew it. I knew this was a gov psyop to distract males aged 18-45 from the election.
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True facts
1 likeBased? Uhhh based??
0 likesthis is yt history
0 likesecht fire video
0 likesU should become mrs beasts 1 million dollar lawyer 😂
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@@mondop1 ohh
0 likes@@MrFather4000 I ain't glazing it's just a joke on how good he debunked dogpacks allegations
0 likesStill glazing dogpack is crazy
4 likesIs this season 2?😂
3 likesThis video will go to the moon!
0 likesyou never proved that sleep deprevation aka what was done to jake weddle is not a war crime, you just said it was a joke, but sleep deprevation is still a war crime
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@hellboy9458 There U go, U explained it
0 likes@@tanvirsourav83 Why is Jake Weddle's 'voluntary prison challenge,' which includes sleep deprivation, being considered a war crime? He could have literally refused and left the challenge if he felt mentally weak. In summary, sleep deprivation in this non-conflict setting would not meet the criteria for a war crime.
1 likeFor example, if I took the challenge of surviving 50 hours in Guantanamo Bay prison and came out with something worse than sleep deprivation, would I have any right to sue MrBeast for committing a war crime, like Jake Weddle?
@@Daymare19 If you think the route he took was drama, that is your opinion. I don't have to agree with your opinion and you don't have to agree with mine.
0 likesHe chose the route of going to the person that was currently exposing Mr Beast, that is not drama in my opinion, but instead it is the smart choice. This is proven by the fact that he was offered to get paid the rest ($190k) of the prize he would have been able to get, as the Mr Beast team realized that the whole situation was not handled appropriately by them.
How do you know he did not ask for a sleeping mask or something to cover up? Care to share your source of what was asked by him and what was not asked?
In the interview he clearly states, that he asked them to turn off the lights. At that point they should have turned off the light or end the challenge! After this they no longer had his consent to participate in the challenge and should have ended it themselves, as they refused to turn the lights off.
You clearly have never been in a traumatic situation and don't show any empathy towards people that have. Someone having a mental breakdown/meltdown because they brought their traumatic experience to light is not something you should ever take lightly or make fun of it.
As far as I know he got hate for taking the $50k, not because he was trying to cancel someone.
Using an AI voice clip, he was sent by an apparent Mr Beast employee, and labeling it as such is not unethical or immoral. Should he have done a better job at labeling it that way, instead of after playing it? Sure, but just because some people are to lazy to keep watching past that voice clip is not his fault, but the fault of the people that just run with the first thing they hear.
If you have a problem with the creation of said voice clip, you should address the person that actually created the voice clip and sent it to Jake pretending it was a real recording, not the person that it was sent to.
I wish for you to never be in a similar situation.
@Silas276 no, he chose the route of taking the drama instead of getting even the idea of asking for a sleep mask or covering his eyes up with something. I would be on his side but he is just so stupid and afterwards when he got hate he had a meltdown for getting cancelled after trying to cancel someone. Also do you think it's ok to use AI to make a voice clip to destroy someone's reputation even more (even if he said it's AI right after, that is still unethical).
0 likes@@Daymare19 According to you being tortured and bringing it up after he was comfortable to come out with the information is drama. You and anyone else thinking this way are morally bankrupt in my opinion.
0 likesComing out with such heinous information is not drama.
@Silas276 it was pretty much his fault for being dumb and taking the drama route
0 likes@@Daymare19 you clearly didn't read what I wrote, as I said Mr Beast did infact not commit a war crime, but in fact did torture someone.
0 likesTorture is still a war crime if done by a government or during an active war to POWs.
@Silas276 it was Jake Weddle who chose the drama route. Did you see the options he had to prevent it? He is a dumbass that cannot think whatsoever. And it's still not war so it's not a war crime
1 like@@Daymare19 Sleep deprivation is torture, torture is a war crime. Just because someone joked about it being a war crime doesn't negate that it is actually considered a war crime.
0 likesIf they did deprive him of sleep, then they did torture him. Did he give consent to be deprived of sleep? Is torture legal if he did consent to it? My personal opinion is that torture is NEVER legal!
Did MrBeast actually commit a war crime? No, but he apparently did commit a crime that is considered a war crime, if done by the government.
1. There's no war going on to commit a war crime
2 likes2. It's not a war crime
3. It's consensual
4. Jake didn't directly indicate that this challenge was the reason for his sleep deprivation
@@Daymare19 Yeah, there are a lot of options to avoid sleep deprivation, but Jake chose to make a drama out of it instead.
2 likesWar crimes are only during war times (when there's a war in that country)
5 likesAlso Jake Weddle was just stupid for not
-asking for a sleep mask
-turning away from the lights and closing eyes and/or have arm above your eyes.
-pulling his blanket over his eyes and turning away from the lights
insane
0 likesSoggy is the real winner
4 likesthis is peak commentary
6 likesliking and commenting so this video gets recommended more :)
7 likesgood job soggy cereal
theres no good side, only one thats winning
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@@hellboy9458The one who moves on with life
0 likesUhh which side would it be?
0 likesNow would be a great time for mr beast to respond to the allegations for sure
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He did in twitter
0 likesBro cooked and left o drums no stains no dirty plates he left an empty one🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
3 likesJuicy
0 likesA soggy movie about cereal
1 likeHOW did a British Soggy Cereal - taking interviews from Mr Beast people?
0 likesBro became American without notice?
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@@gurunext he's said it before, he's from belgium
0 likes@@HalfAnimation How can you tell?
0 likeshe's not british what
0 likesBro cooked absolutey the drama 🔥
0 likesIt took the entire time of the video for me to finish CS Surf: Kitsune, lol
0 likesi deactivatet my add blocker when i clicked on this video so you can get money love your content soggy <3
3 likesThis channel could also be called "the only Person actually doing fact checking on the hole site"
13 likesit weren't warcrimes either, the contestants could quit if they wanted to and weren't POWs
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Sleep deprivation is torture, torture is a war crime.
0 likesIf they did deprive him of sleep, then they did torture him. Did he give consent to be deprived of sleep? Is torture legal if he did consent to it? My personal opinion is that torture is NEVER legal!
Did MrBeast actually commit a war crime? No, but he apparently did commit a crime that is considered a war crime, if done by the government.
Comment for the algorithm
0 likesFINALLY
0 likes45:13
0 likesI actually had a suspicion of the allegations ever since your deleted Slop content video, and even more suspicious when Rosanna Pansino inserted herself into the discussion and tried to portray herself as holier than thou over some (admittedly manipulated) challenge that got herself clowned by.
7 likesI want to know though, why didnt the beast team come out with this immediately instead of mostly keeping quiet?
0 likesWait until those pepole will say "mr beast meatrider"
0 likesSoggy Cop or Content Cereal
0 likesIm waiting for when soggy cereal gets exposed for being a predator 🗣️🔥
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Yo calm down
0 likes🤦♂️
1 likeHe won’t
1 likeThere’s something to be said from someone who copied his idol to now becoming one. I really do have a lot of respect for you man please keep staying neutral and honest.
1 likeI'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
5 likesThey know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form
They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor
I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours
Life's a fight, but trust, I'm ready for the war
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king
Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring
See, I believe that if I see it in my heart
Smash through the ceilin' 'cause I'm reachin' for the stars
Whoa-oh-oh
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh
I guess this is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
Highway to heaven, I'm just cruisin' by my lone'
They cast me out, left me for dead, them people cold
My faith in God, mind in the sun, I'm 'bout to sow (yeah)
My life is hard, I took the wheel, I cracked the code
Yeah (whoa-oh-oh)
Ain't nobody gon' save you, man, this life will break you
(Whoa-oh-oh) in the thick of it
This is how the story goes
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows
They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told
I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows (everybody knows)
They know me where it snows, I skied in, and they froze (yeah)
I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold
40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told (ooh-ooh)
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na-na-na-na, ay-ay)
This is how the story goes
Whoa-oh-oh (na-na)
I guess this is how the story goes
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@@MeandMe-js7gp 1950’s version
0 likesI hope this video blows up just so I can see all of the drama Slop youtubers suddenly have a change of heart on mrbeast and realize maybe he was innocent the whole time.
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Well yeah I'm just meaning more innocent on Almost all of dog pack's claims and the slop youtubers are gonna say he's 100% innocent or 100% guilty they're spineless
0 likesWell mr beast isn’t innocent soggy cereal even admits that. We still have the coffeezilla investigation for crypto scams and the amazon squid game lawsuits.
6 likesCan't wait for MorePegaslop to make 20 videos about this
3 likesMy only criticism is that you claimed you used a crayon to put up your nose at 59:50 when it was a pencil besides that 10/10 video we love you Soggy
1 likeI love when real evidence DESTROYS manipulation
2 likesThis is why I subscribed to you
3 likesW vid
1 likeI think we should close down YouTube
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Guess you want more pdfs and criminals then
0 likesThat a stupid idea
0 likesTf hell nah
0 likesFantastic investigation Soggy, you absolutely cooked with this one 🔥
6 likesA fact can only be countered by a fact . Making ad hominem attack does nothing.
0 likesDude I had actually been waiting for your video because I know you don't leave things Grey
3 likesI admit I did fall for the things that Dawson had said and did not do my own research about it, but I knew I'd get the MOST insights from you.
Beasty Boy is still very suspicious though especially the crypto stuff
0 likesThese days you cant say "both are bad", you should support just one team
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Support both
0 likessigma
0 likesThe iPad kids were right all along.
0 likesThis is why this channel is 🔛🔝
0 likesWaiting for Dogpack is Over video to come up
0 likeswhys he trynna cover for mrbeast why cant mr beast do it himself? also delaware argument of yours is just "oh hes 19 he should have known better" even tho jimmy mom was involved asw
0 likesNow it's all about who is the lesser piece of sh*t.
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lol, I suspected as much from the start. I did watch western movies with my mum as a kid, and I used to ask her: "who is now the bad guy, since both shot each other in the back?" I just couldn't make out who the bad guy was, it simply did not make sense to me. 😂
0 likesstop dragging it
1 likeEvery week there is a new controversy or a new pf
0 likesHe travelled to fucking north carolina ?
0 likeswhy does no one spread mr information and only miss information sexist
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Everyone hate being wrong
0 likesglad I found this channel and subscribed to it earlier.
1 like😅I'm so gullible
4 likesRespect for Soggy here, not following the trend and only seeking the truth
2 likesThanks Soggy
1 likeYum yum 96 more pegasus videos!!
0 likesLove the Stucky shoutout
2 likesHe is super underrated lol
This video was so good
Jake the Viking reminds me EXACTLY of a coke head I knew in my hometown, he might talk a good talk when he’s more sober than usual but then he gets 15 beers and a few lines I’m in and every redeeming quality goes out the window and he’s suddenly drunk driving to go smoke crack and cheat on his wife with an underage child
0 likesSo basically, both sides are bad
2 likesI was one of the people that fell for dogpack's allegations and believed them. Thank you for showing all of us the truth about him and his lies.
4 likesFinally a based take
2 likes1m dollar lawyer found and he cooked.
3 likesThe drgs have got to him 😭🙏
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The first clip when he was content cop
2 likesThanks for helping clear the picture and not simply following the trend of accusing Mr. Beast.
2 likesHow many more times do I need to say it.
1 likeCommentary channels don't care for facts. They poor out gasoline videos onto mere accusations bonfires, treating them as incontestable gospel.
Bro PLEASE release the dogpack job recording
1 likethis is the same progression as Trump: you hate the guy so you try to find evidence of his wrongdoing but instead of anything really damning you find a bunch of ticky-tacky crap that you try to hem him up with half of which turns out to be bullshit but you put it out there trying to keep the story in the news while you gather the good shit, not realizing that even if you found it you already burned your believability
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@@Lacewisetake your meds
1 likeIt’s funny because it is just like Trump but not the way you think (you ignore obvious crimes because they’re too obvious, which, again, is a literal form of propaganda)
0 likesDifference is Trump does have shit against him, such as a signed document calling him a felon.
2 likesSo basically mrbeast sucks and so does dogpack404😭 (this shit is so ass)
0 likesDaddi 1:19
0 likescant wait for dogpacks manic episode
5 likesReminder that Dogpack will be feeling suicidal after watching this video.
1 likethis feels like propaganda if i'm being honest...
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@Lacewise im arthur morgan from rdr2 and i command you to turn your device off
1 like@Lacewise your comment section history is public
1 like@Lacewise just put the fries in the bag
1 like@@unsyoutube9768actually that it happened at all does matter but thank you for informing me how little you care about the safety and wellbeing of children. It’s noted.
0 likes@@beepboopwoophe’s following my replies which actually breaks TOS. I’m just reporting him.
0 likes@@Lacewisehe's yanking ya chain mate
0 likes@@Lacewisethat entire comment you wrote is someone having a manic session
2 likesI haven't even watched it yet and I know. God I'm going to have to pause like 20 times
2 likes@@Lacewise3rd party people are making the mrbreast company improve the situation about their hiring processes anyway so the delaware thing really doesnt matter anymore
1 like@@Lacewise u good?
1 like@@Lacewise take your meds mate
2 likes@Lacewise ??
0 likesHow?
3 likes@@unsyoutube9768awww you’re so cute the way you think information literacy looks like mental illness because you don’t have any
1 likeI bet your empty brain is so peaceful for you. Anyway he specifically and deliberately muddied the issue about Delaware because he’s expecting the audience to not know how the American offender registry works. That makes the entire first ten minutes of the video unreliable and the rest of the video untrustworthy. He’s just trying to dilute the reality until you can’t see it anymore. Glad it worked for you though! Have a nice, peaceful live. (:
@@Lacewisetake your meds
4 likesBanger vid. Hope you a Stuky work together some time.
1 likeYAy
1 likegenuinely great video soggy!!
3 likesSomeone should make a movie out of this MrBeast Drama. It's plot twist after plot twist, and I'm enjoying it.
6 likesSo he didn’t do illegal lotteries
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Illegal - NO
14 likesMade with scummy tactics - YES
In the end, it's your judgment to decide whether he did or not. I'm confident that a decent person like you wouldn't jump to the conclusion
0 likesBro aint no ways we got another twist. First Dogpack makes mrbeast look like the villain and now you come out and UNO Reverse this guy outta here
5 likes2015 ahh vid start
0 likesSloptubers gonna feed their piggies for eons off of this.
0 likes1:00:54 honestly. I agree with everything you said in this video EXCEPT for this part. Its not up to YOU wether or not a PURCHASED signed product being signed by a completely different person is fine or not. Thats a personal choice and only the buyer can decide how to feel about it. As a collector, I'd be absolutely LIVID if I found out that the signed ANYTHING that I got from my favorite anyone was signed by !a completely different person. It may not be illegal, but its still genuinely fucked up and super disingenuous. Amazing video though, fucking PHENOMENAL work finding all these recipts. Forged sigs are where i personally draw a hard line tho😅. Especially when its being done so blatantly. Shits practically shameless at that point.
5 likesI knew it from the start but i could never make a debunking video like this. A truly fantastic video
1 likeJake Weddle isn’t funny!! The outer banks is a fun time North Carolina ain’t that boring
0 likesThis is revolutionary !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesBro great vid but kinda wrong to not bring up the facts of Jake weddle of how they kept the lights on while he was trying to sleep that is serious psychological shit happening to him that might’ve gave him insomnia. and making him run a 3 hour marathon so bad that he got bad blisters on his feet sure he wasnt FORCED to do it but from what it sounds like he was extremely pressured into it cause of all the money they put in it and shit. I respect how much research and shit you did in this video, but I’m surprised you didn’t bring up those aspects of Jake Weddle story and it seems wrong to have that x on that board behind you, the fact that MrBeast felt inclined to reach out to him and give him the rest of money kinda proves that he felt bad about it and knew that it was a fucked situation
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@@anyona19 didnt he say Jake was “ the wrong person for the challenge”? Implying that Jake was the problem cause he was going through shit not the actual challenge? If so Thats fucked to say to someone who was pretty much tortured that’s straight up victim blaming. The only problem i have with the vid is jake weddle part Don’t know how that situation could only be half true
0 likes@@anyona19 I would argue, that even tough Mr Beast did not commit a war crime, as he was not torturing a POW or torturing in the name of a government, the point still stands that torture is considered a war crime.
3 likesMr Beast did in fact commit something that is in some circumstances considered to be a war crime.
Soggy crossed it of despite of this, whereas I would have left it with the question marks, as it is neither true nor false.
@@smashbattle6969”defending mr beast” criticism for Jake or Dogpack isn’t a defense for the opposition. Jesus yall are so sides cucked. Also soggy didn’t say what happened to Jake didn’t happen, it’s widely agreed upon that what happened to Jake was bad. It was likely cut out cause it’s not really relevant to the main topic of the video. That is debunking Dogpacks false claims.
4 likesI thought he put the question marks on the Jake weddle "paper" because he just can't really prove or disprove that so he won't talk about it, if he said something that downplayed the whole thing Soggy can be rightfully called out for that
2 likes@@smashbattle6969well i don’t think he did it for the sake of defending mr beast, he continuously says that this is just a criticism on dogpack and not a defense of mr beast. i do feel like he minimized jake weddle’s experience but i think it’s just cause he didn’t spend a lot of time on it
5 likes@@Silas276 i know crazy how this guy kinda downplayed this situation with weddle for the sack of defending mr beast I respect everything else he did in the video but it was pretty fucked up to downplay this horrible situation the poor guy went through
12 likesSleep deprivation is torture, torture is a war crime. Just because someone joked about it being a war crime doesn't negate that it is actually considered a war crime.
8 likesIf they did deprive him of sleep, then they did torture him. Did he give consent to be deprived of sleep? Is torture legal if he did consent to it? My personal opinion is that torture is NEVER legal!
Did MrBeast actually commit a war crime? No, but he apparently did commit a crime that is considered a war crime, if done by the government.
At the point he was asked to run the marathon he was no longer able to give informed consent, because of the alleged psychological torture, as well as the lifechanging amount of money on the line for him.
Agreed
2 likes58:00 bro needs to brush his beard😅
0 likesI can’t believe yall listened to this dogpack clown to begin with.
0 likesMr beast fans eating good tonight
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Kinda makes sense, given the accuser's incompetence. handled the allegations poorly, went unhinged, and can't defend his own credibility.
0 likesYeah i doubt that
1 likeNever trusted the guy what a scumbag
1 likehow much did mrbeast pay you to say all of this
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@@manuela9671 what?
1 like@@LazySock : if so, probably much more. by the way, I do not trust anybody, unless I know them for longer, and I just don't know anybody at this point... yes that happens. It so happens to me. Anyway, believing anybody on the internet, who dares...
0 likesdid you even watch the video
0 likes$0
0 likes@@matthewpierre-canel5890 none
4 likesHow much did dog pack pay you to make this comment
6 likeshave you watched the video? why r u still trusting dogpack after multiple lies spread by him. actual clown
2 likesProbably less than Jake weedle
4 likesAnyways, shout out to Soggy for acknowledging that multiple people can be shitty, yay !
0 likesComment for the algorithm. Great video dude!
1 likeGood enough, welcome back 2016 peak
6 likeswow this was bad video
6 likesContent cop is back??
0 likesFuck dog pack, al my homies hate dog pack
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@DermotBrophy you clearly dont know the 'all my homies hate ___' meme and it shows
5 likesand?
4 likeshomies you a white man trying be a gangster
Good Video. I just hate Mr. Beast because he works with Logan Cock and Forehead Man.
1 likeman garret was always my favourite.
3 likesi feel so bad for him.
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Dogpack sneaked a recording of Garrett's words and twisted them to make him look like a victim, using it against MrBeast. That low and scummy way to try to cancel someone.
1 likeI cant believe i believed dogpack😢
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Dogpack sneaked a recording of Garrett's words and twisted them to make him look like a victim, using it against MrBeast. That low and scummy way to try to cancel someone.
0 likesMorepegasus will be the youtube channel with the most videos with this video
1 likeNow this is the soggy I know, good journalism from you. Wonder how dogpack will respond to this after he deleted his 3rd video
6 likesThis is better than neflix
1 likeok so i watched like 2 and a half minutes and basically both sides are bad?
0 likes11 minutes in, probably yeah
just wondering, will you make a follow up video regarding the amazon beast games?
2 likesW
0 likesI watched this vid when Nick DeOrio covered it and this is probably one of the most complete dismantalings of someone I've ever seen. I really do commend your work. However I do have one major point of contention with the video and it was regarding Rosanna Pansino's involvement. She was not manipulated, she is just as complicit in the cultivation and spreading of MrBeast Derangement Syndrome ever since she was screwed over her coveted podium position in that stupid hide and seek video. It's quite evident that she knows what she's doing giving her famous crashout in that Nick Livestream.
2 likesBravo soggy you did a great journalistic job
3 likesyou are the hero we all needed. now do video excusing and justifying Mr Beasts Crypto rug pulls. i believe in you
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@@Lacewise either you are dawson with a alt account or you are brain dead can't tell bro 💀
0 likesHe can’t debunk it because that’s something that literally happened
0 likesKeep in mind, crypto is a bit shady, kinda like a casino.
0 likes@@Lacewise your words are making no sense
2 likestake your meda
@@ishaanvohra5702you all think the aesthetics of journalism of more convincing than actual journalism and that’s sad.
0 likes@@Lacewise" it's beyond sketchy " 💀
3 likesWhat's more sketchy a guys randomly accusing someone of CP , Assault Child abuse etc without acknowledging that they are only accusation
Or a guy actually providing proof ?
@Lacewise take your meds
3 likes@@andromic2824nah this is a more advanced form of misinformation and the same crisis strategy corporations often use. If you can’t exonerate yourself, make the other guy look just as guilty. When the other side looks less credible (or more biased) people will hold you less accountable. A lot of the sources (for example how did he get audio from the COO?) are really strange or dubious. You can’t trust people because they’re telling you to equivocate everything. That’s a logical fallacy called “false equivalency”. And of course telling people “there’s no objective truth so obviously it’s somewhere in the middle” is an appeal to existing biases and a literal propaganda tactic.
0 likesI’m more shocked people are falling for it, it’s beyond sketchy.
He literally says to watch coffeezilla’s investigation at the end. The video was made to prove dogpacks incompetence while backing up reliable sources. Soggy still thinks mr beast isn’t a good person but by throwing false accusations can make it easier for the guy to defend himself and make any opposition look stupid.
4 likesCan't wait to see slop channels next video be "the dogpack situation is insane"
0 likeshello? why isnt this getting 12 million views
1 like46:29 RuneScape audio hitting different today
0 likesYou should be a lawyer or a detective you actually do research
1 likeThe expose of the exposer
0 likesMore Pegasus 100 video saga rendered useless 😂😂😂
0 likesBro just dropped a whole as documentary 😂
0 likesto be honest I'm just conflicted what is true what is false, on one hand I want to be sure Jimmy isn't doing anything wrong like the FBI report of mistreatment on the beast games on the other hand if it turns out that many of the allegations were falsified, I will be really mad I was put in a wild chase of a case by a disgruntled worker messing with my trust. >:( I will say though Jimmy made a horrible decision working with logan Paul and KSI that is a horrible way to earn trust back with community
1 likemr beast is still a bad person :shrug:
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@@Robokoop4000 his glowie mother, his connection to goonclown, how all his friends in high places just happen to be scumbags.
0 likesNo one's saying he's not a bad person it's just a lot of his allegations can be proven false
6 likesHow so? What has he done that makes him a bad person?
1 likeJimmy defense force
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@@Lacewise Hmm, if he gets into legal trouble, maybe he should use the money from his video to hire a lawyer.
0 likes@@deezgottemlol5643where would dogpack get the money with all his legal fees
1 likeMy god people who enjoy Mr. Beast trade in their brains
Dogpack404 paid meat rider
6 likesJimmy paid Dickrider
1 likeI appreciate the effort you put in but I can't listen to your voice for an hour and a half
0 likeshow much is mr beast paying u
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@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl Wait who? Soggy? I'm just a slop commentor
1 likehow much are u being paid to defend a guy who's consistently proven himself to be unreliable?
1 like$ 1.000.000 or probably more than Quinn Emanuel tbh
0 likesW Mr. Beast
0 likesi smell those "its over..." "hes finished..." videos already
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@@hellboy9458 but suddenly realising dogpack is an asshole too is also more shocking and would get views too.
0 likesFor MrBeast or Dogpack, because I guarantee you they would choose MrBeast over Dogpack.
0 likesWhy are you going after Dogpack and not Beast?
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Because there's shit dogpack seriously needs to be fucking criticised for he has shown 0 issues with straight up lying about a ton of shit and is absurdly irresponsable. MrBeast may not be a good dude but he should be held acountable for the bad shit he actually did and it seems like a lot of what Dogpack said may be bullshit.
0 likesPaying bill, the man's rent is due
0 likesDogpack isn't compensating him anything 😁
2 likesI don't really care. Dogpack is using drama to make coin. Mr Beast is taking money from his fans by running likely illegal competitions and some extremely sharp cryptopractice. Beasts maleficience occured first.
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@@hellboy9458 Investigation is for law enforcement, legal professionals or journalists you nitwit.
0 likesDo you think it likely beast manipulated crypto for his own profit? Yes or No
Do you think that he or his team effectively misled participants in online competitions/lotteries. Yes or No.
Then go investigate and prove it, stop wasting your time and spewing nonsense in the comment every time
0 likesI really feel like a ping pong ball in this situation, thank you for this video and research!
2 likeswow those dogpack mr beast video ideas are genuinely shocking. how deranged do you have to be to think baby battle royal, doing drugs or buying 1000 boobs are great for the algorithm or ad friendly? it sorta hints at a weird headspace. dawson is a strange guy!
0 likesI thought I believeed dogpack but I can no longer believe him because of the lies. Thanks for the truth soggy as I don’t like people who lie. Would appreciate how much effort soggy has put in for this video which has saved MrBeast’s channel.
2 likes16:00 unraveled references ?
0 likesMaybe you should have ate some of those moldy lunchly meals to fully emulate the true iDubbbz classic flavor with a little gross out meal time footage. Expose dogpack for sensationalizing accusations all you want but don’t imply Mr. Beast ranch is squeaky clean the guy literally uses peoples disabilities to farm views, manipulates his followers to steal their money via crypto and overpriced “food” products in the form of failed fast food, gross snacks meant for children and chocolate where one of the four ingredients is lies.
4 likesHis number two was literally Ava Tyson and he’s in videos with images on the walls and discords containing illegal content of and involving minors. Guess they were all silly mistakes of an adolescent who “didn’t know any better”. What’s next his crypto wallet and tweets weren’t really his? He admits to being on calls with the biggest names in crypto scamming prior to pump and dumps he tweets looky eyes at before dumping his bags, multiple other creators not mentioned here came out with their own experiences and fun times at the Beast ranch, their PR team insinuates provable claims are lies from haters more times daily than arguing teenage girls before quietly retracting the statement once realizing it could be used to sue for slander and defamation; at least dogpack sticks by his salacious claims.
While you’re at it why not make a content cop pokimane so you prove her cookies aren’t overpriced it’s just a surcharge for the repacking of finely aged cookies the brand they were too gross tasting to sell under previously deemed “expired”.
Asking if someone read a description, did you watch the actual video of the event where they start shilling out potential prizes to encourage questionable marketing to little kids while faking the signatures on the merch they’re pushing live on stream? Maybe they should hire this guy for Mr. Beasts legal team since he clearly has enough time to scrutinize every minor detail of every expiration ever made looking for any chance to defend his beloved Jimmy.
The whole slip through the cracks thing you played twice was spot on, the redditor says they missed a communication which went to their spam folder which means it “slipped through the cracks” unnoticed by the user so beast team wouldn’t have to uphold their end and you can easily make an email you send get flagged as spam to later claim “oh we tried reaching out and never heard back”.
You blast him for thinking something is cp then immediately talk about how the OP of the image said it was so is it not obvious why he thought it was? The supplier who you called disgusting yourself literally said it was, you say he didn’t research or Google it but blast him for reverse image searching it to try to find the source.
You flip flop more than a pancake and contradict yourself more often than the guy you’re attacking for exposing people for being evil. You didn’t submit it for the same thing you claim dogpack of being guilty of, not being sure of the claim in the first place and fearing repercussions of wasting FBI resources. You accused someone of watching cp while showing a comment of them reporting it.. so they saw it posted and asked for it to be taken down and they’re evil? So you want to leave it up?
You tell him to take a clip of your vid out of his but 90% of your video are clips of his, they should crown you king of the contradiction.
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@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl nice evidence, the first half of your comment doesn’t even make sense any what in house? CP? There was loli taped to a wall in a video which is legally considered CP now. Never said crypto meant everything else is true just asking if sloppy boy was “debunking” that easily provable offense next.
0 likes@@Buckleyedo what are you blind?
0 likesShe literally had didn't have any of that in the house or server and him calling people involved with crypto doesn't mean he involved in everything they did.
0 likesThe other things you mentioned either aren't true or don't actually matter.
Why did you post the same comment again?
1 likeGreat video, thanks
0 likesso is mrbeast a fakie or not like what do i belive😭🙏
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@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl Easy answer: no one. Stay neutral and call out one of the two if one is in the wrong. Easy life for me 🤣🤣
2 likes@@hellboy9458 I'm confused are you on his side or not?
0 likes@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl The video literally clarifies the allegations with context behind the scenes that Dogpack wouldn't dare to show. I don't know what you mean by 'being manipulative and lying.'
0 likes@@hellboy9458In what way? it's clearly showing he's being manipulative and gave lies to people.
0 likesNo, this video is confirming the allegations from Dogpack with extra context and 0 use of 'allegedly.'
3 likesPeople believed DogPack404 since Mr.Beast has not responded in any way other than privately. Even saying a response would come would have helped his image tremendously.
4 likesThis is the type of response he should’ve tried to make, but you stepped up and gave us a lot to think about.
Good work!
Naming it content cop might make Youtube refuse to recommend the video in people's recommendations.
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Also uploading this while the Jake Paul VS Mike Tyson fight was going on is insane man...
0 likesSo both dogpack and Mr beast are bad people anyway what do u think about coffeezilla about Mr beast
0 likesI get some of your points, but a lot of your points are just you saying "Nah this actually happened" like at 22:13.
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Congrats, u just understood the basic point behind debunking things.
0 likesBecause that's what the truth was.
1 likePlease, dont marry YOKO in the future
0 likesThis was a really good video!
0 likesI agree with your argument but I’m still gonna hate the man
6 likesMy screen time longer than the DogPack404 rise and fall
4 likesIf dogpack hade made the one video and moved on I wouldn’t have had as big of problem. But man he just keeps going. Like him and whatever the fuck her name is are the head of the Mr beast hate committee. Like move on. But it is good to see someone doing reasearch and disproving false allegations
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Rosanna's stuff about Beast Games and editing video is true tho but yeah
1 likeMrBeast is too big to fail 😭
3 likesI have no opinions fml
1 likedrama will be on peak in 2025
0 likes🧹
0 likesToday hase been a crazy content day for me amazing expose video on dogpac and a new bigbunjeeee video what a good day
2 likesWe need chat cat right here,right meow.
0 likesThis NEEDS more views.
3 likes5 head means you have a large forehead not that you’re smart and if it is implying you’re smart it’s doing so ironically so the name isn’t pretentious it’s self deprecating
1 likeMan Ali coca was right,dog back was spreading false allegations.
1 likeOh god what do I believe at this point 😭 august the duck and many more or soggy???????
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@@matthewpierre-canel5890 oh lol
0 likes@@TheGamingRock20he's joking
0 likes@@hellboy9458 alright I’ll check him out
0 likesyou can watch Pegasus tho, I heard he is reliable source 😉
0 likes@ yeah good idea
0 likesStay neutral
0 likesAs much as I have wild respect for this guy (dogpack) there is only so long you can milk one piece of drama for before people stop caring.... still i think there's still a couple videos left yet
0 likesstucky is actually so goated 45:22
0 likesthis needs to go vireal asap
0 likesIt sounds like they should’ve fired Lacoy………
1 likeDog pack on the illegal lottery #1: THERE THAT SEE
3 likesEhh, now i know how much I miss the og content cop
0 likescommon soggy W
1 likeFinally somebody fighting the MrBeast Bad Dogpack Good narrative and show Dogpack's misdeeds
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Too bad, no one’s going to believe this and will say MrBeast paid off his ex-employee to help Soggy expose Dogpack. Or they’re just Glazers/Dickriders. Get the authorities, whose word I only trust. something like that
0 likes1:25:45 Windows progress bars since about 2000.
0 likesThe Villain ark is crazy.
0 likespersonally i think feastables is the worst creation ever concieved by mankind, but literally everything else you say in this video I 100000% agree with, words cannot express how much i and likely many other viewers of this channel and therefore this video thank you for making something decent and well informed that doesnt conform to the classic youtube slop cashgrab formula
7 likesyeah anyone who has been on youtube since the old drama days could immediately smell dogpack's delivery was weird and untrustworthy, solid video, that being said i would be a bit more wary about the obvious bias when interviewing friends of mr beast, or at least point out that there's a conflict of interest there
1 likehere before 200m views (i think i am very cool for commenting this (because i am))
0 likesthe dogpack404 situation is insane!!
0 likesYou might have just changed YouTube
1 likeDogpacks ass is over with this one 🗣️🔥
4 likesI will always sit down and watch a soggy cereal video, you do amazing work everytime dude, keep it up. Huge fan.
3 likesThe second I heard dogpack begging to try and get his job back and for a "second chance" , I lost every bit of credibility I had for him.
7 likesJake was NEVER a credible source for me , crying about getting 10k a day for staying in a room is actually crazy , just goes to show how privileged the guy is.
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@@mad3ub_ quite often the crazy fans turn into crazy antifans. The love has turned to hate but the obsession never left
0 likes@@mad3ub_ his dream job? I thought his dream job was exposing MrBeast
0 likes"An obsessive kid who's disgruntled about getting fired from his dream job"
1 likethe mid roll ad is jokes🤣🤣🤣🤣
2 likeslol "philanthropy" aka corporate tax write offs. Garrett with the "water cooler talk" aka blatantly caught. North Carolina is a one-party consent for recording audio. 3 strikes within 10 minutes.
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Big talk for someone with your digital footprint lol
2 likesBetter hope some of your online posts don’t bite you either :p
I love it when both parties are shit heads. Really makes it so fucking annoying to take any stance whatsoever.
2 likesWhere is MorePegasus to make another 9 part series about this
2 likesSee this is exactly why I see myself as an mis informed individual I mean I am regularly lied to I just don’t know when and how and I feel bad for believing in dogpack and trashing on mrbeast he does deserve some it but definitely not all of this
1 likeI love how you deleted your last video in silence and never reacted to it🎉
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i love how u didnt bother to check the community tab where he literally talks about it🎉
1 likeGo to his community tab, he explains there why he took it down. Talk about a lil investigation
7 likesFraudpack wont suck u bro
1 likeWhat was it?
0 likesCan't wait for the twitter meltdown.
1 like42:46 🫡
0 likesThis dogpack guy is a weasely little liar dude
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@@covencockroach gedagedi
0 likes@@Thecanadianseige69PLEASE watch the video
0 likesyour profile picture is my sleep paraylsis demon
0 likes@@Thecanadianseige69 He does have his facts straight. Something tells me you didn't
5 likeswatch it
You should get your facts straight. Only one lying is soggy.
1 likeHard to call Rosanna a victim when she would grasp at anything she can to smear Jimmy's reputation.
1 likeThe extended content cop imitation was played out by the 3rd minute of the video. The first 3 were funny though. You just gotta know when you’ve killed a joke
0 likesdude. you cooked Dogpak's goose. WTF was this guy doing? how are you acting as a better journalist than he is!?
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Because he takes 3 months or more to do the investigation, while Dogpack only needs 1-2 days. One has patience; the other doesn't.
2 likesPOV all drama channels DogPack404 is DONE!!!!
1 likeThis should have more views
3 likesDamn. You got him good. Glad someone of decent size made a big video on the guy
0 likes1:23:16 lol ive had that fart gun for 7 years now
0 likesAn hour and 30 minutes.. Jesus Christ
0 likesThis video will help me pay my rent ty soggy
2 likesThis is giving me usual suspect vibes
0 likesSlop! jk. great job.
2 likesMake this the most viewed video in Youtube
2 likesthis needs to be seen by everyone
0 likesThis just changed everything 😱
0 likesContent Cop 2024? Oh we are so back baby.
2 likesTo be honest, I had a feeling Dawson was doing this for his own agenda given the way he speak in his tweet of planning to expose Mrbeast and the brand itself for “alleged cp”.
0 likesThis is why you should wait for the arguments from both sides before forming an opinion.
4 likesDang
0 likesLet's boost this
0 likesThis will be interesting
1 likeI’d appreciate if you could post the full interviews somewhere, as they may provide some information. Not saying you’re a liar, but it’s also a fun way to get a one up on DogPack by making sure all clips are in context lol
4 likesDo one on the weird bot comments advertising corn on family friendly gaming channels
2 likesI can feel the morepegasus upload ☹️
0 likesCan’t wait for this video to get 1% of the views Dogpack got because YouTube viewers are a hivemind
5 likesthank you!!! such a fantastic video!! been saying this from the jump almost felt like everyone has lost their MINDS
3 likesA true spiritual successor
1 likegood luck my friend 🫡
Bro works hard to protect pedos
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@@matthewpierre-canel5890you def touch kids
0 likesAre you being sarcastic your subscribed to him so you support that
1 likeMaking the mother of all drama here jack, cant fret over every creator
0 likesAs much as I appreciate this video, I really can't seem to like stucky's channel. It has become a new breeding ground for jimmy's defender. Saying this as someone who doesn't take dogpack seriously from the start due to a lack of receipts, stucky just really don't want to talk about mrbeast for some reason. Allying with massive forehead and the forest guy who are massive nft scammers plus launching a crappy product and turning a blind eye to anti-competitive behaviors from sick of it creator and suing coffeezilla guy really deserve a small callout like what soggycereal did. But nonetheless, good vid u got a lot more proof than doglie404
0 likesTLDR: Stucky really needs to speak on the beast a bit. It's not like he's entirely innocent. Shielding Ava, lunchly and shady nft stuff and scummy promotion tactics
Been against Dogpack from the beginning, glad someone is finally standing against the bandwagon hate train on MrBeast
0 likesSoggy vs Doggy situation is insane 😭🙏
1 likeSoggy just absolutely anhilated Doggy into oblivion!
1 likeAnd the slop thickens,
0 likesThis effing situation will never end istg omg pls 😭😭🙏🏾
0 likesFinally some journalism.
1 likeCasually waiting for dogpac's response on twitter i mabe a Twitter account specifically for reading those weirdos cope about this video
2 likesbro i cant believe i made it in lmfao
2 likesYou didn’t debunk anything bud
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😢😢😢 nobody cares about you
4 likesdamn, you really put time and effort in this video
2 likesWE LOVE OUR CEREAL SOGGY🥣
0 likesShadow banned. 15k views in 5 hours???
1 likeThank you so much for making this video. I don't like mr beast but I absolutely loath dogpack404 for spreading misinformation. There's already enough misinformation for the "internet" to blindly hate. We do not need more of it. We need more people like you in the world combating this misinformation. 👍
1 likeI will never support you after you hated on my boy Acheeto😤
1 likeGET EM SOGGY
0 likesWow, after watching this I know Mrbeast is complete scum.
0 likesIdk who to believe anymore
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@@matthewpierre-canel5890 understood.
0 likes@@matthewpierre-canel5890 orders received.
0 likesStay neutral
0 likesOnce again you've proven you're the GOAT of YouTube journalism.
2 likesGod, I fucking Love you and your Channel.
3 likeshey dry cereal, just letting you know the title is a little misleading since i clicked on it thinking it was just mrbeast but it it covers SO much more than that. amazing video!
2 likesAnother slop video full of lies and misinformation. Do better dude
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@@lniehmaybe take your own advice. I did watch it
0 likesWatch the video before you comment
0 likes"Full on lies and manipulation." Ok bruh, prove that
2 likesYup video is just slop aimed to discredit dogpack. Soggy is definitely on jimmys payroll
1 likejust like politics u show stay way for it
0 likesNow just let ur wife do OF, apologize to everyone u do a content cop on, and start YouTube boxing
1 likeMr. Beast will never have to pay for anything he's done because of all the dick riders out there.
1 likeMrbeast wants to make healthy snacks so he can eat and get Sooners but mrbeast is eating the chocolate
0 likesDOOBUS GOOBUS JUMPS CARE!?!?!?
0 likesNot the done yet but ik well this video is actually well made and researched!!😸
0 likesAli Koca is laughing at everyone RN
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I can't believe Eggman caught an unintentional W
2 likes@@14483OYKIn summary Ali had the right idea but the wrong methods
1 like@@14483OYKyep exactly
1 likeHe ain't a saint either. He was behaving like a whiny edgy aah child when he called out as Mr Beast dikrider. He and Soggy ain't same
6 likes1. Mrbeast still did do some bad things(dogpack was just wrong about most of it)
9 likes2. Ali koca didn’t use real evidence against dogpack which is why people were mad at him and he responded in the worst way possible and harassed a 14 year old kid. Soggy cereal still used real evidence to prove that dogpack was wrong about most of the stuff but Ali koca just insulted his appearance
Good video Nicholas sent me here
2 likesHoly shit this is gonna change everything
0 likesI lowkey wanna see a second expose video from another very cool commentary YouTuber and just keep it chaining until death
8 likesHi (:
0 likesI went from general dislike, to neutral to mr. Beast
1 like32:40 bro just accused me of watching minors because i called a mod to report them... what a bogus video lol
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@@TheRealJoshie what he do
1 like@@CamNuggets you’re a creep
0 likes@@CamNuggets what an as* you are
0 likesSo you were the Camnuggets people were talking about
1 likeYou are a person who is doing incredibly suspicious things on Discord.
7 likesYour opinion means absolutely nothing.
you have replied to several people in this comments section and in other soggy cereal videos, if your ego is hurt, just say it
8 likes@@CamNuggetsDogpack is not sending his best.
3 likes@ so what’s your opinion on Rosanna clickbaiting cp?
8 likes@@Fredfazbear1983 FNAF pfp
4 likesCope lil bro
10 likesI knew he lied! I just knew it
2 likesA true Soggy banger.
2 likes1:12:52 my heart absolutely breaks for weddle that his friend (who he described as a saint) just completely threw him under the bus
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That isn't what he did.
1 likeYou just desttoyed dogpack lol
6 likesThe content cop we deserve, duck idubbbz.
1 likeDamn that content cop intro had me edging to the good old days
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1 likeCommenting to please the algorithm
2 likesWhere the BBWs at?
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@@CamNuggets this is pathetic
2 likesthis is going to be held in the records of YouTube
6 likeswild
0 likeswhat if they are all just terrible people?
1 likehonestly, even though feastables joined the anti child labor and slavery organization.
0 likesehhhh....i dont know if i would, too expensive. i could cut margines by just buying cocoa beans from poor managers who hire adults and kids for 5 cents in congo and whip/force them to work for 18 hours a day.. rather then paying anothe org to help and check. i guess its good for pr.
call me evil, but... i really like money, and keeping shareholders
Thank you for exposing the bad actors.
8 likesAbsolute cinema
0 likessuffah dogpack!
0 likesnicholas sd me here
0 likesThat slapped my guy. Wipe the smug smile right off little pricks face
1 likewatching this in .25x speed, u the goat
0 likesW video love from Nic
0 likes"THE RIDE NEVER ENDS" - Mr. Bones
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shut up geezer
0 likeswe smoking that dogpack tonight. this is why i have the bell
0 likesGreat job honestly amazing investigation
1 likeYESSSSSSSS
0 likesIt's so funny hearing an actual norwegian do the idubbbz norwegian impression
6 likesDamn..I can't believe I fell for that disgruntled employee smh..
0 likesWhat is even going on anymore
0 likesMan if only you could conduct yourself as a profesional and not a goof ball 😂⚽️. Coffezilla is a real facts man follow his lead bro !
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It fits because it's all about the he said she said bs. Unlike finance, which is mostly about either it was written somewhere or not.
0 likessomeone didn’t watch the whole video
4 likesThe thing is soggy is not a crypto researcher does not know about that stuff coffeezilla could handle that stuff soggy he will investigate other stuff because he did not have that much knowledge in that field
1 likeif mr beast atleast address the allegations he would atleast be able to fix whats left of his reputatipn
2 likesMan, I gotta wake up in 7 hours.. but yes I am going to watch this whole video
1 likeHi Soggy, I made the Reddit post that you use at a few points throughout the video (Mack’s friend’s property listing, identifying some of the contestants in the boys vs girls challenge using their name tags, the screenshot of the tweet saying Mr beast was providing refunds for the failed rocket launch) and that was used in a few videos of Stucky’s, who I’ve exchanged some messages with.
3 likesThank you so much for making this video and getting all this information out there. I really felt like Dawson’s motives were questionable right from the start. Just wondering why you chose to blur the property listing? I had already censored the address. The rest I thought would have been safe to use.
Anyway, great video and fantastic job. You’ve really put to shame every other drama YouTuber who covered this topic to death and ate everything Dawson said up without question by doing more journalistic work in one video than all of them combined. Subscribed.
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2 likesAlso the fact that you actually spoke with HR and show it in video as proof is so laughably pointless I now understand why those MrB employees went to speak with you in the first place. This is the best strategy the could have come up with. Not an official statement, but fight DP on "youtuber drama" level. It's genius.
9 likesLike, man, you can't seriously make an intro as a "content cop" and then show "evidence" where an HR person claims what allegedly happened inside the company. Dude. HR. Have you never worked in a company before?
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@@bookle5829 Where did I say DP is a trusty source? Do you actually believe this thing is as simple black-and-white/right and wrong? Did you actually watch the whole video and read the whole comment?
3 likes@@FatmanNotBatman890 I didnt say anything like that, I dont take sides. My point is that Soggy is trying to appear better in his debunk than DP, yet he does a lot of the same fallacies as DP.
0 likes"You talked to a mr beast employee? Hah! They're not trustworthy compare to anonymous disgruntled employees."
3 likeswhat would be enough for you to believe there aren't horrible things happening at beast HQ why is dogpack more credible most of his source are faceless
3 likesI love you, soggy cereal
3 likesYou know what, I don't think we should be that mad at Ali Koca after all...
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@@arielperez3613 Well yeah, but he did say "a bunch of unproven allegations"
1 likeHe didn’t make any arguments in the video. All he did was insult his appearance
0 likesHe’s still annoying ngl. Also tried to sue a minor
3 likesBro might have actually been right
0 likesI cant believe I actually believed this dude. I feel so manipulated.
1 likeI just checked Dogpack's channel, he completely removed the most recent video.
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Wrong he unlisted the video.
1 likecan't wait for the dogpack404 crash out when his 15 minutes of fame is ended by the worlds biggest defamation lawsuit
4 likesThis kind of sounds like dog pack just didn’t get the joke - there was a “whistleblower” at Dartmouth in 2012-ish who “exposed” some fraternity hazing debauchery, most famously swimming in a kidding pool of various… YouTube inappropriate things. What the poor sap didn’t realize was that pledge term is a giant mind-F. You might be swimming around in like salty water with hotdogs and other random crap in it, but when you’re really drunk and it’s dark you’ll fully believe it’s much worse.
0 likesIt sounds like that’s kinda what happened with dogpack, then he ran screaming to the administration “oh my god they’re making us swim around in crap!” Well, no, they didn’t, you’re just an idiot. Another classic is blindfolded “branding” with a cold piece of metal (branding IS a thing but not as part of pledge term, at least at Dartmouth; some people choose to do it as brothers).
Fun fact, Canada used to have FutureShop, and then Bestbuy took over... MrBeast just to stay on topic
3 likesclose enough, welcome back idubbbz
0 likesLove the rice gum Jake Paul reference to that content cop bait and switch
0 likesrecreating the youtube ui is like next level stuff lmao, dogpack is a total fraud
0 likesNo one said, Jimmy intentionally sought out a sex offender to hire. They're saying that he hired someone knowing that he was a sex offender in child. Rapist and even if he did not know at the time of hiring which Jake the viking who is Delaware's brother in-law, said Jimmy and his mom full well knew at the time of hiring, he definitely knew after he hired him and found out and still included him in videos on a channel whose main audience is young children. You're focusing on the wrong things here in using that as gotcha moments, when it doesn't debunk or devalue any of the arguments.
0 likesYou're focusing on the fact that he didn't really get banned from Delaware. When what you should be focusing on is the fact that he pled guilty to raping an 11-year-old when he was 16 years old and is in fact a registered sex offender and did in fact get hired by Jimmy and his mom while they knew that information. So what's really important here?
0 likesdo we really think that mr beast said ava chris would enjoy that anime bc it’s about an older guy that “saves” an underage girl from sex work or solely bc there is an underage sex worker in it?
1 likeLets go
0 likesGreat video, himpleton is one of the most disgusting people I've met while on this platform in the last year. Painting narratives of people like he's some "knight in shining armor" when he's really just some guy who wants to get his piece of the clout pie. Along with dogpack and all the other's involved in this entire situation. People need to stop being so disingenuous if they want to gain respect and really set themselves apart from other people on the platform. Hope this blows up!
3 likesTaking in Everything:
11 likes- Beast's team also did speculation so that was hypocritical
- HR Girl seems very ingenuine and like she is hiding things
- Safety is a good intention, but don’t understand their solution to fake it. Why not just not do it then or find another way around it where that action doesn’t have to be taken?
- Dawson needed to do better research but the skeleton of his videos are still correct and points at the company being very shady
- You probably took it too personally with Dawson and came off as a beast apologist till nearly the end(where you contributed just 4 minutes talking about him)
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@@Fredfazbear1983 Not complaining about safety that’s a good intention. I’m complaining of why their solution is to fake it. I suppose that was phrased badly initially but that’s what I meant.
3 likes@@theahmedbhatti1 why complain about safety lol
1 likeWay to take it out of context buddy. I’m just saying if they wanna be this genuine channel there are better ways to go around things than faking content.
4 likes“Faking for safety is bad”
2 likesseeing your vids is like seeing kindrick drop
3 likesstucky shown pog i love that guy!!!!
1 likeContent Cop is back!!
2 likesSoggy is the best one to host content cop tbh
Acheeto is having a roughggghh week 😂
0 likesvery indepth
0 likessoggy >>> doggy 🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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🗣🔥🔥
0 likes38:04...
0 likesJesus Christ I won't trust anyone now. Not u,not dogpack and Not mr beast. I have no opinion now😶😶
2 likesid rather trust a youtuber ive been watching since he had 20,000 subscribers than some random ex-employee who makes suspicious claims
1 likei stoped trusting him after the ludwig interview 😭
1 likeThe time has come, time for a full on video of “controlled opposition” making the crack addict realize that his lies would eventually catch up with him.
0 likesSeriously how much did Jimmy pay you for this
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@@zillatoo It's been confirmed that a MB employee paid for airfare since Soggy couldn't afford it, there would be no video otherwise
0 likes$50,000 less than Jake Weddle.
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3 likesGuys i genuinely refuse to believe that this video filled with real journalism had less than 10,000 view in 2 hours
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he did actually just change the title, and it definitely seems to be reaching more people.
0 likes@@VOgaming51official Hey man, I get it, it can be hard to find out you were wrong about something. Better to accept it and move on though.
0 likes@@Queef_Storm even down to the content of the video...he should just get rid of the video honestly
0 likesIt’s a bad title and thumbnail. Soggy really needs to repackage this because currently there’s no clear reason to click on the video. It just looks like the one millionth typical Mr beast drama coverage video, not a debunked video with genuine proof.
1 likeThe MrBeast scandal just goes to show that most people don’t even try to do do their own research, that people will believe anything. I know very well that I am not immune either.
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Very true, I believed everything that DogPack said in his videos because I just didn't want to research the truth and what is fake.
0 likesAt first I thought whatever dogpack said was true as it seemed legit but now I am sure no one is bothered about the allegations anymore everyone just needs views , thank soggy for making me re-evaluate myself and how easily I believe stuff
6 likesThe fact that Dogpack 404’s first action after being fired he made the videos slandering mrbeast just showing how petty he is for not getting everything handed to him.
6 likes55:50 What proof did you provide? There's literally nothing shown in the video that would debunk DP's claim. Not the actors, not the storm, not the raft.
7 likes56:50 What proof is there that Jeremy T. Grant participated in the "24 people in the circle challenge"? His youtube channel mentions only a different challenge, that happened in 2022, with a different title.
1:08:40 You talk about the "No doesn't mean no" as if it was about sexual abuse and taken out of context, which was never the case? - the point people had issue is literally stated in the screenshot - instructing people on bending the rules of different companies.
Also you keep referring to MrB's employees as a source and while DP is almost certainly a disgruntled employee, your sources are mostly MrB employees, and their evidence you show are not sufficient.
If you wanna debunk a liar who's sources are "trust me bro", then why do you use the same tactic? You yourself are pointing out DP's manipulation tactics, yet you're, either intentionally or not, doing the same.
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Jeremy T Grant has appeared as a contestant in multiple Mr Beast videos on his channel. The “no doesn’t mean no” thing, to my knowledge, doesn’t encourage any ‘bending of the rules’. As for using Mr Beast employees, who else should Soggy talk to? These people are a primary source. This is what all journalism should look like.
2 likeswinter slaps, cause every winter soggy is a content cop(the good one actually)
3 likesAs a former follower after watching his video or this video, I do agree with what he says, and when you look over it, it kind of hard the back up with so much overwhelming evidence say MrBeast is the best guy with everything the crypto stuff and I did also he wasn’t everything through another guy posted several videos which you can see in this video Pegasus I’m gonna get into more details is watching this video. He has some more clear image and also was here to be exposed so I mostly trust him but he’s not lying. What am I saying? Most likely it all true with so much evidence I believe it’s true and how fast everyone count around MrBeast and hating him and a lot of my fear creators who I personally see as being very truthful backed up, shows how scum people can be.
0 likesWhy is my previous comment not being shown?
1 likeedit: youtube autobanned my comment with links to youtube itself. its stupid, i didnt realize. my bad.
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@@Keeb_the_mof Oh. I'll write it again without links, then.
0 likesYouTube delete comments some times
1 likeWell this changes quite a lot. The Mr. Beast company still kinda sucks, but it was definitely exaggerated and twisted to push an agenda. That's a real shame on both sides. Both suck, but it's definitely more complicated than the black and white picture painted about this company i never really cared about
3 likesThis actually made me feel dizzy, like I believed dogpack, and I was lied to! I never really liked Mr beast, but just plain lying is gross.
4 likesInsane soggy upload
0 likesI kinda think you need to change the title to something like "Dogpack404 lied" because this isnt getting as many views as it should be compared to what you have found out.
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Agreed. Uploaded 3 hours ago and has only just cracked 10k views. “Exposing DogPack’s lies” or something like that would be way better and reflect the content more accurately. Currently, there’s just no reason to click. It looks like any old drama coverage video.
1 likepeople need to see this
2 likes52:43 a kurzgezagt (im sorry if i butchered that) video. +100 credibility
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the weed one btw
0 likes30:57, are not gonna talk abt all the real issue this anime talked abt like child abuse?
0 likescan't wait for this video to also get deleted because of some content creators who can't take criticism 😂
0 likestoday I absord your fibres and neutrients. that was a very informative segment on the Mr Beast Situation. Also I see what you did there with the title Content Cop - Jake Paul. wink wink
3 likeswhy are you bootlicking for mr beast in the majority of this video😅 if you genuinely think that everything dogpack has talked about is in bad faith then i’m disappointed
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Watch the damn video kiddo
0 likeswatch the damn video before acting like you are informed on it. he said MULTIPLE times that he isn’t sucking up to Mr Beast, he even points out that Beast HAS done many scummy things
2 likes@@NoomStuff👆Yes
3 likesYou either did not watch the video, or you didnt pay attention.
9 likesHe has stated multiple times that this video is not trying to prove mrbeast is innocent but instead debunking false allegations about him.
30:53
3 likesSurprise Surprise, dog pack only read the synopsis and never watched the anime. Even if you never watched it, a simple google search can answer you question.....BRUH...
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but do you really think mr beast said ava chris would enjoy the anime because an older guy “saves” an underage girl from sex work or solely bc there was an underage sex worker?
4 likesSOGGYYYYYY
1 likeThis one gonna go crazy I already know
0 likeskinda sad how ppl are so gullible :(
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I know. Dawson even shows on screen in his first video that he’s comparing 2 servings of the largest size feastable to only 1 serving of the smallest size Hershey’s. 15 million people watched this and not one of them caught it.
0 likesWHY IS NOBODY ELSE FREAKING OUT ABOUT A LONG FORM VIDEO
0 likesAmerican money is highly desirable to other countries. Look at this Belgian for example chasing after the $20 bill
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@@SebiSuper9mil lol same
2 likes@hazelnut5577 yeah, I just liked that part the best, found it funny
3 likesDid you watch the video?
2 likesi did think the last rosanna video was weird, AugustTheDuck made a good video about it, was taking a really serious subject and using it for content, makes sense now knowing its bs, people better lawyer up by the sound of it
1 likeYOU VISITED MY HOMETOWN AND DIDNT TELL ME
1 likeyo should have made this an series bc the algorithm does not like loong videos
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@@NoomStuff what ? he can still have a good video even if it isn't long
0 likesThat would be optimising for revenue instead of actually having a single well researched video
4 likesAnd this is why i love soggy cereal great vid.
3 likesGreat video, Soggy! You did amazing!❤
3 likesnow im confused if mr beast is a good guy or not
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@@NoomStuff
2 likesFalse or not…
I feel like MrBeast is still another big corporation who gets in shady business…
So most of the allegations dogpack made up are false, however some things mrbeast does are shady.
2 likesAnd i think it has been confirmed the crypto stuff is legit and very bad (havent watched the coffeezilla vid yet so dont quote me on that)
good thing i have my goldfish for this one
0 likesThis video wont last long. The counter arguments are so weak. Someone downloads it before he deletes it.😅
0 likesidk about this, feels very “mr beast gave me a contract as a uninvolved third party to defend him”
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@derpypenguin8199 You have no opinions, no original thoughts, or even ideals. You're not a person but a simulacra of one.
1 like@@derpypenguin8199 i didn’t lol 😂 can’t even defend yourself so you’re accusing me of liking my own comment. actually pathetic
0 likes@@uxebob you liked your own comment bffr
0 likes@@derpypenguin8199 seriously, “womp womp” 🤣 this can’t get even funnier
3 likes@ womp womp i did
0 likeswatch it first Before commenting sh*t please
2 likesidk, I'll just wait and see where this leads
1 likedid you even watch it? he doesn’t suck up to mr beast.
9 likes42:40
No Doesnt Mean No is crazy come on man be serious like your gonna sit there and say thats not wild?
2 likesUnironically I was thinking of you and wondered when the next video will be out and then I checked YouTube and voilà. Love your videos and how you actually put in the effort to do proper investigations.
3 likesthis video is fire
1 likeWell done.
1 likei'm kinda on the fence now, this is great investigation. 5:40 , why was his face covered tho? was it just fashion?
0 likesGood shit Mister Cereal.
1 likethis is one of the better content cop imitations, but it's not content cop unless you say "retard"
0 likescomment for algorithm
0 likesIduubbz got a lip job
1 like1:48 Otis MCdonald, love that dude if he wanted he could make all these songs copyrighted right now but he dosnt cuz he real pog
0 likesidk what to believe anymore
0 likesWell look how the turn tables have uh turned
0 likes"they fake it for safety, so its not fake". Towards the end thats basically the argument he makes. The underwater challenge had to be fake for safety etc. How much are you getting paid?
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They faked it so they won't drown or end up like on byford dolphin.
1 like@@EvanFilm 😭
1 like@Juiceboxlmao ok but it's still fake is my point.
1 likehes saying its "faked" to be safe not "faked" to be rigged
3 likes@@EvanFilm no? That's not even what he said
5 likesYour so signa
0 likes0:40 we can always trust the dude who gets payed by mrbeast to give info on him
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@@Sillylittledragons what's your point. 404 isn't the one compensating people for damage control
0 likes@@The_Tcat ok
0 likes@@Sillylittledragons Most people aren’t even mad there just asking why you trust dog pack an employee and not this other an employee. You should probably trust dogpack less sense he was fired
2 likes@@droketheroper checked your subscriptions literally the second one was dogpack
1 like@@Sillylittledragons DogPack got into ppl's nerve good enough buddy, no need to be a troll when we r dealing with a bigger one
2 likesMy gosh people are mad
0 likesNo sheet Sherlock... At least he knows what's going on inside the company, unlike your bf who claims himself to be a worker in the company while dissing from only three weeks
2 likes@@FatmanNotBatman890Yeah like I do believe some statements dogpack has made but some are just wild. He made like 10 good points other stuff was just yapping
0 likesDamage control plant lmao
1 likeOnly guy who was paid was Weddle
2 likesThen who can you get reliable information from if not a primary source? You’ll believe everything one guy who worked there for 3 weeks says but not multiple employees who have been there for years?
7 likescan we trust the dogpack the disgruntled employee
13 likesGood video mr cereal!
0 likesWait, i didnt know Mr Beast employees could have names and faces? They arent all anonymous????
1 likei can tell a lot of work went into this. i would love to see what else you have.
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@@zonatedspore97acamasclown
0 likes@@zonatedspore97acamas Ask Jake Weddle lmfaoooo
0 likes@@chinyang1200 I think YouTube removed it for being “disrespectful” which I’m getting sick of tbh. Maybe it’s because I’m a new account as well but who knows
0 likes@@Rottenishere I think your previous comment got deleted for some reason but also like FB and a lot of social Media Stuff that person probably forgot we all know we can self Like our comment/ post
1 likeHi Willy, I’m the guy who made the Reddit post if you recall. Would love to see you cover this topic again with all the new information that’s out, especially seeing as this video is not performing so well right now.
1 like@@zonatedspore97acamas bro get a life.
0 likes@@chinyang1200 that do all have 1 like, hm..
5 likes@@Rottenishere also it looks like he likes his own comments cause the Consistent 1 Like makes it's sus
9 likes@@zonatedspore97acamasdude shut the fuck up, we get it your hate boner for Mr beast is taller than Mt Everest. You don’t have to make that incredibly obvious.
3 likes@@WillyMacShow I wonder how much was the check.
2 likes@@WillyMacShow not to mention that soggy straight up lied about feastables and the philanthropy.
2 likes@@WillyMacShow not to mention other former employees corroborated some of the stuff that dog pack said.
2 likes@@WillyMacShow ah yes... true journalism is blindly believing the people on beasts team even though they could and have lied like the 0:40 saying they're helping people.
2 likesi love how at 48:04 a mid roll ad popped up for me. Usually whenever a creator says that it usually doesn't happen but it happened for me.
2 likesThis brings me back to old 2017 to 2018 idubbbz
0 likesIn areas like 10:50 where you are SUPER aggressive it really reflects the same level of manipulation that dogpack used. While somewhat joking about it while still being ironically aggressive. I’d much prefer a video where you talked about the facts without this unneeded and excessive dialogue that kind of discredits you
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The part about being recorded without consent only matters if the person that recorded the conversation lives in a 2-Party consent state.
0 likesNew York as an example is a 1-Party consent state (as far as I can tell Garrett is based in NY, based on his linkedIn)
@ perfectly stated
0 likesYea I feel like some parts weren’t 100% in good faith. Unfortunately I don’t have the motivation to fact check soggy, so I take it all with a grain of salt, but I’ve watched his videos before and I feel like I can trust his opinion to have some sort of valid evidence to stand on.
3 likes@@Tyne-w6c Isn’t that just ridiculously hypocritical?
2 likesthats literally him just copying dogpack, this doesn't invalidate the information givin
2 likesThe video is copying dogpacs style. That was the point
10 likesI agree with dogpack on you being somewhat overdramatic, but i think that your evidence still stands and that this is a great video
0 likesTo be fair, he still needs to make money
0 likesgreat intro!
0 likesoh soggy... i think this is it...
0 likesI'm lowkey realizing how silly I have been about this whole situation through old comment I have written. Goes to show how easy it is to be manipulated even for me who usually is able to see thru bs from YouTubers. Overall their isn't anyone in this situation who isn't at least somewhat guilty (excluding some of the employees).
0 likesI don't care Mr beast shouldn't be in charge of making content for children regardless. If there was any justice both your channels would be shut down for being soul-less robots of the machine
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It would be more honest just to admit you hate finding out you were fooled
0 likesDid you watch the video lol
3 likesSo you don’t care and just want to hate mrbeast?
5 likes11:50 what the hell
2 likesTime to be part of history once again
6 likesi still hate mrbeast
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Whatever will Jimmy do without the support of chunkydamonke 😔
1 like34:08 what does the text soggy is blocking say
0 likesPretty good video i think.
1 likecrazy
0 likesHi dogpack. Hi westjett ik your watching but west jets deff gonna skip 90% of this. Hi mr beast milker (sry i forgot your name ngl)
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The name you’re looking for is MorePegasus
0 likessomething has always seemed fishy about dog pack but SO many people fel for it including myself that just goes to show how quick people jump on things as long as the evidence seems legit without actually checking if it is legit mistakes happen and we learn from them so don't feel bad if you fell for it juts learn for next time
0 likesSoggy Cereal on his way to save Mr Beast Society
0 likesBookmark:
0 likes37:00
48:03 this part is insane lmfaooo
0 likesThe content cop reboot
2 likesI haven't sat down for an hour+ YouTube video in a while, very well done. This was very informative even as someone who has never really watched MrBeast or anyone else involved.
1 likeuhhh
0 likesIm sure you're right with most of this but im also sure that the beast games allegations are true.
2 likesfinally, someone who actually does research on this topic and doesn't make brain rot, selfless videos about it
2 likesHoly shit!! I knew Dogpack and Rosana were disingenuous, but I had no idea how bad it was. It's insane to watch how easily their narrative crumbled with a bit of research. This is why we tell everyone to be careful when making these kinds of allegations, but most people can't be bothered to do any critical thinking or research claims. Sadly, (unless this video blows up) most people won't see the debunked claims and continue running with the narrative that Mr Beast is some kind of evil, conniving sociopath. Thanks for making this video, it was a really good watch. It was entertaining and engaging the whole way through, unlike DogPack, whose videos feel like a slog to watch just to get to the allegations he's trying to make. Also he has the personality of a wet towel. Your videos are far more reminiscent of Content Cop than his ever could be.
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@@Queef_Storm It's crazy to me that both of them perceived some kind of injustice one time and then dedicated themselves to being Jimmy's biggest haters, lmao. It all comes across as vengeful and petty.
1 likeRosanna has been on a crusade against Jimmy over a game of hide and seek from half a decade ago. Girl has problems.
1 likeRosanna to me was an attention seeker from the beginning 😭🙏
2 likesi got like 11 ads in this single vedio its like yt doesnot want me see this vedeio
0 likesChallenger 2 joins the fray
0 likesHow old are you bro? That hair thinning boy omg.. can't hide it forever
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@@EricSer hhaha you're actually mad. That was my goal. Keep crying, I love it. Notice I'm ratioing you too? And if you don't reply it's because you know I'm right
0 likes@ work for Netflix tho. U live at your parents 😂
0 likes@@EricSer uh oh, someone's upset. It's going to be an early bedtime for you, mister.
3 likes@@Queef_Storm u mad DogPack is right and you're defending who...? Soggy? jimmy? Either way bro grow up you literally don't have a perspective to give so just learn
0 likesBuddy does your carer know you’re on the internet unsupervised right now?
3 likes@@EricSer I know that’s why I meant to end the commenting there and continue playing guitar but you keep yapping
5 likes@ literally neither? Huh? Bro u gotta get out more, the internet isn't real life
0 likes@@EricSer LMAO so your a Disney adult AND an incel talk about a double whammy
6 likes@@EricSer " put the fires in the bag/ milkshake in the cup holder"
4 likes@ nope single duel income household just reminding you "kids" we looking younger than yall still 🤡
0 likes@@EricSerbro your 29? Why are you fighting with kids on the internet, don’t you have kids to worry about or something?
6 likes@ nah bro my hairs thick let's how that shit looks wet let's compare. Why does Gen Z look so much older? I'm 29 and you guys are receding at 19.
0 likesbros projecting
11 likesNot DogPack being so casual about CP and literally life-damaging accusations
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And then hiding behind “I said allegedly”
0 likescant trust anyone nowadays dang
1 likeThis is is some smart comment that will get 2.3k likes bc its was funny or smth
2 likesThe ragebait guys must be really confused which side to take here even more so now than day 1 of the drama
7 likesThe intro is AWESOME
1 likei didnt even realise that the corners were rounded
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Yeah I always use theater mode, I never noticed that
0 likesi dont like that i share my name with him
0 likesI always knew Dogpack404 was sus af
2 likesBro did it right
4 likesThank you for finally posting again soggy
0 likes"thousands and millions of lifes" 🤣
2 likesA Moment of Silence if You actually thought Dogpack was telling the Truth
4 likesThe Dogpack fans coping in this comment section is hilarious 🤣
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People hate to find out they were wrong
2 likesSOGGY POST LETS GOOOOO
0 likesWhy are you so angry & defensive over Jimmy..? Next investigate where your top lip went
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@ lmao every time you reply says my comments are actually getting to you, keep going mf, I love playing you
0 likes@@Queef_Storm awe u seem upset boo boo
0 likesBoohoo 👶🏾👩🏾🍼 there there, don’t cry, don’t let the thought of having been wrong about something get you too upset
0 likes@@EricSer the allegations he didnt address he either didnt find in the mountain of allegations (as stated near the beginning of the video) or he did not have enough proof/knowhow to cover those.
2 likesHe refers to other great video actually covering true allegations near the end of the video
@ I did... he failed to address several accusations, wonder why?
1 likeHe was not defensive about Jimmy, you would know if you had watched the video
4 likes15:39 small mistake in spelling stayed.
0 likesSoggy, no one cares
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Let's be real, we all do
2 likesI knew he was bullshit from the start. So glad the truth has came to light.
1 likeYou took a Long time
2 likesBut now dogpack will be hiding under Rossana's Bed for a Long time
So let me get this straight all of this is true but somehow no one on his side bothered but apparently Soggy which is unrelated (I assume) managed to do it?
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@@zonatedspore97acamas the only dumbass i see you because you have posted 91 comments on this video in less than a day. go do something productive
1 like@@zonatedspore97acamas if you are talking about the mrbeast team debunking the allegations, its been proven to work that not publicly responding can actually be way better for your reputation
1 like@@zonatedspore97acamas ever heard of Lawyers ? How D U M B are you ?
0 likes@@chinyang1200 then why didn't beats team do it? How d u m b are you?
1 likeThat's ... The point . How is it going over your head ?
2 likesI don’t know who to believe anymore
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@@heyzoms It's actually because he's waiting for DP to drop everything, and DP is stalling.
0 likes@@heyzomsSunnyV2 has proposed that idea, and Beats has acknowledged one of his videos. Beast have reasonably seen some
0 likes@Zero-v9vv I think the biggest reason is he is sueing people but another reason i could see is he doesn't want to draw more attention or give validation to the accusation. I think if most people just don't respond to people's accusation it will go away with time. Maybe its just me but i haven't seen many people talking about this anymore so i assume this works.
1 likeIkr I'm getting confused in all this choas
0 likeswatch coffeezilla's newest video.
7 likeshe reviews both sides. my biggest question: why is mrbeast not responding to these allegations?
Ayyyyy new Soggy!
0 likesSoggy cooked with this one
0 likesDogPack404 situation is crazy
1 likenot youtube shadowbanning this 💀
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Damn I really hope it goes viral
0 likes@beomzhour oh you right LOL for some reason i read the upload as 5 hours ago 😭
1 like@@TheRealJustHen it was just uploaded..
4 likesYou just fed the drama YouTubers for the rest of 2024
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I say Give them what they wanted
0 likesDude if you bothered to read using even 1 brain cell you know that another person using another person signature is literally fraud and counterfeit any of you bothered to read the lawsuit papers everything dog pack brought up as valid merit unlike you you’re debunking everything just to get a drama content video out of it when you really shouldn’t be especially since in order for this all not to be true a lawyer can’t be citing it in a lawsuit… but they are… yeah dude no offense please get some brain cells you still paid for free entries I know because I used the free
4 likesEntry back when I watched MrBeast 😂 it’s honestly hilarious how many brain cells you don’t have to be making this video and purposely ignoring the facts and again they are facts because if they weren’t, they wouldn’t be allowed in court you bafoon or did you know that that’s not how a court works that the information both lawyers in both parties bring have to be correct to their knowledge by doing a correct investigation
1:04:08 once again, if any of what dog pack said was wrong, it would not be used in a separate court, case with separate individuals and was investigated to be correct by actual detectives hired by that lawyer you are simply a idiot buddy also Jimmy gave weddle 100% permission to post nothing but the truth and Jake has confirmed the dog pack is telling the truth and Jimmy has not denied it as false because it is coming from Jake simple context clues dog pack is telling the truth because once again, Jake can tell the truth because of Jimmy’s permission
But you didn’t bother investigating that much so does it really matter no all that matters is the next time you make a video like this? I will have a community noted because you didn’t do any research and your interview is with a guy who literally is still getting paid off by MrBeast to make him look good even if it’s not true so good interview very very pointless since you didn’t even do any type of correct research
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No, since I’ve basically tortured your entire reputation by proving you didn’t even read anything to do investigations on and you interviewed somebody who works for MrBeast currently to try to talk negative about MrBeast. When you know for a fact, you can’t also won’t because again he’s on MrBeast payroll i’m gonna give you this one warning if you continue to claim to be an investigative reporter or just any type of news outlet and conduct interviews in this manner or try to make videos like this again I will personally see you in court and I will make you look like the biggest clown in history
0 likesThe mr Beast corporation kidnapped idubzz and made him European
2 likesHe'll probably use the excuse that the shredder was CGI in the shot he was showing when he said it, which is clearly true but he was clearly intentionally being misleading by not specifying that he meant in that specific shot.
2 likesdogpack404 seems like the guy to try to dmca strike this video
0 likesI MADE 2 VIDEOS TRYING TO PROVE THESE ALLIGATIONS WRONG FINALLY IM FREEE❤❤lov u soggy
1 likeWas the Delaware quote not walked back?
2 likesIt’s sad that this guy has less subs as dog day or what ever his name is
0 likesI'm well over halfway through the video, and it's clear your intention for this part at least was simply to defend Beast, and honestly you don't do it very well.
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@@ptolemyhenson6838 Did you not see the end. He said the crypto stuff was sus, and said to go check Coffeezzillas video. He didn’t cover that because he doesn’t know much about crypto.
0 likes@@ptolemyhenson6838 because dogpack fucking sucks
0 likes@@The_Lord_VaderMaybe he says he doesn't "pick sides" but almost the entirety of his thoughts on this have been toward one side.
13 likesYou really didn’t watch the video did you? Watch this 40:35
6 likesit was to call out some of dogpac lies. Even i watched the videos i knew dogpac lied about it. I was not about to research everything but soggy did for me
4 likesI like to view this as him debunking lies DogPack404 made. Based on the Discord DM they probably have some beef
12 likesYou could say the same thing you're just biased about dog pack 404 you two are just dumb tell me what is false in his video
1 likeYeah
13 likessoggy cereal situation is crazy
3 likesgets popcorn out
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0 likesHere before this goes viral
0 likes>23:59 other youtubers
2 likesjust showing pegasus
Bruh you're literally wrong about feastables... wtf are you on about? Are you wilfully ignorant here?
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@@zonatedspore97acamas
1 likeFeastables WAS Healthy at the beginning and that gave it a good reputation and then they made it more unhealthy than Hersheys.
@@D_YellowMadness literally everything
0 likesWrong about what exactly?
0 likes@@D_YellowMadnessslave/child labor and being healthier than Hersheys.
3 likesIn which regard?
0 likesBruh you're literally wrong about feastables... wtf are you on about? Are you wilfully ignorant here?
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Heh??!?!!
0 likesYEEEES MY FAV BELGIAN POSTED
0 likesThis drama has so many plot twists
0 likesGOAT
0 likesWhy are we suddenly attacking dogpack?. Wasn't he the good guy?
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bro watch the video...
1 like@@D_YellowMadness
1 likeThe videos were demonitized by DogPack404 (on porpoise)
@@D_YellowMadness he didn't make any money....
5 likesHe's a bad guy making money off of the wrongdoings of other bad guys at the expense of mixed company who didn't consent to be involved.
1 likeI guess he wasn't actually the good guy, plot twist
0 likesNo
5 likesi dont really like dog pack i never trust him
1 likeNuance has entered the chat!
2 likesno one has even finished the video yet
0 likesSoggiest cereal
0 likesIt’s finally out 🙏
0 likesI love the intro and all the Content Cop and iDubbbz references and impersonations you managed to put into the video. So faithful to the original, yet so soggy, I love it! Great work!
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Yeah I found that intro really entertaining 😁
0 likescorrect me if I'm wrong but Jimmy could actually just sue Dogpack for defamation at this point, right?
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He's probably weighing his options because there's some true stuff mixed in that'll be hard to ignore if he engages in the case.
5 likespov commentary channels after mr beast says a single word about his new video idea
0 likesThis video isn't soggy saying that mr breast is good it's soggy say dogpack is bad
1 likeCan’t believe people hated Mr Beast so much they didn’t bother to check any of Dogpacks false accusations.
3 likes10:50 Yeah that's pretty messed up
2 likesThis is crazy
2 likesThis video gonna blow up ain't it 😮
2 likesI think all sides are f*cked and need to improve
1 likeOk like, i just have oooone question, does MrBeast fake charity? Because like, his challenge, his content, his money. And about his snacks/foods, he aint in the production chain, but alr thats partially his part. Just please tell me, none of his charity was fake... Because if they are fake... Oh man...
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@fan4every1lol89 i dont think any of the charity wasn't good. But eh, i take it as you say the other things he did
1 likeit's not fake but that doesn't mean it was good
0 likesUse the search bar, there are already videos on it.
1 likeaaaand its all over my table
0 likeshistory lessons in 2124 would go hard if this is the source information
3 likes>mrbeast find himself not guilty
13 likes>the internet defence for comes to defend him
Like clockwork.
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@@corystarkillerBuddy, people are allowed to reply whatever they want to you lol
1 like@@corystarkiller are you stupid? The majority hates Mr beast LMAO
0 likes@@leontriestoart You choose to reply to me, I'm not going into your comment chain, and replying to you.
0 likesEnjoy being a follower, going with what the majority say.
@@corystarkiller no one asked for your opinion either, yet here we are. This is a reply section. People go here to see other people say stuff. Get used to it.
0 likes@@leontriestoart No one asked for your blog in my replies.
0 likes@@ver_nick Jimmy has no say in what the company finds or how they conduct their investigation. The only say he has is whether he chooses to publicize their findings
1 like@@ver_nick look up the company hired. Jimmy has no say in what info they get or the investigative process. The only say Jimmy has is in whether their findings are published. That's how you can spot corrupt companies. If they don't publish their findings, it's usually spotty.
0 likes@@leontriestoart "third party" lmao I'm dying
1 likeJimmy is like "we paid the 'third party' to investigate ourselves and gave them only the information we wanted to give and they found us innocent, wow, no way"
@@zonatedspore97acamaswhat is soggy wrong about?
3 likes@@corystarkiller I have been against dogpack from the start, I made quite a few community posts about it a wille ago. But yes i think it was stupid for so many people to ride on the hate train
2 likes@@leontriestoartIs no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables?
1 likeI thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars?
@@leontriestoart Easy to say he's a weirdo, when everyone turns on him. I remember what people were saying Day 1.
3 likes>dogpack lies and manipulates people, gets innocent people harrassed
11 likes> Mr beast stays quiet while third party investigates him
>Internet slowly realizes dogpack is a wierdo
LETS GO BABYYYYYYY
0 likesEmily is a baddie
1 likeAt this point whoever is evil doesn't matter to me anymore, as long as justice is served, I don't care how, I don't care what.
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@@quietchicken6022 fair enough
0 likes@@zonatedspore97acamas explain more, you can't just say that and not elaborate.
0 likes@@IamEscBoy oh, you misunderstand, I just said I'm not gonna care, but people dealing with this should care though. Basically, I'm dropping this drama. Besides, at this point both of them aren't good people...
1 like@@D_YellowMadness yeahhhhhh...
1 likei would like more information before action, please
@@zonatedspore97acamas If you're not gonna point out what he got wrong, you need to shut up instead of spamming.
1 like@@IamEscBoyIs no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables?
1 likeI thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars????
@@IamEscBoysoggy isn't the guy for the job then.
2 likespretty sure identifying who's doing evil is critical to enacting justice, or else you just use innocent people as a punching bag
3 likesthe soggest ceral 😫
1 likeI don't think he did this but I think he did everything else
0 likesIts about to go down...
0 likesNo way you got ed Sheeran
0 likesMorePegasus thanks you for your service 😂
8 likesHere before Soggy deletes the video...
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@@YonyGut1MoviesandVideogames I dont think I replied to each comment you made. You are dumb and your comments dont make sense so there is no way I can respond to each of them. I just like making fun of edgelords. (youre one of them)
0 likes@@swaylikesmusic👈 Says the dude RESPONDING EVERY DAMN COMMENT I leave here..
0 likesIf you want a date, just say it so.
@@YonyGut1MoviesandVideogames you are so desperate lmao. Why do you want to stand out so much? 15 comments when you don't even want to watch the whole vid?
0 likesHe wouldn't delete the video lil bro.
0 likes@@YonyGut1MoviesandVideogames You don't have anything else to come back with lol
2 likes@@imaperson123 Right. And...?
0 likes@@imaperson123I know. I just commented waiting who's feelings I'd Hurt 🙂😅
0 likes@@YonyGut1MoviesandVideogames He didn't delete it cause of any of the mrbeast stuff. It was for a totally different reason. He kinda just mentioned that he was looking into dogpack and saying that he was a master manipulator. Idk how you get to that conclusion from that I'ma be honest.
2 likes@@imaperson123 Still, he puss1ed up..
0 likes@@POSSUM_chowg Fair enough. So.. why not just leave it public ?? Like a normal youtuber would do 🤷
1 likeYoutubers... EMBRACE THE DRAMA! Dont chicken out!
Turns out that he didn’t delete the first mr beast video, he just made it so only his viewers could see it
0 likesHe ain't gonna delete this video
1 likeStated by himself if you go to his community tab
8 likesHe deleted the other one cause he was a bit harsh on the slop content channels
14 likesidk what this means but id say this is a pretty good video i dont know why hed delete it
3 likeslike he did with his last one about mrbeast
2 likesI knew MrBeast was innocent
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I mean like…
0 likesMoney and power = Corruption/Evil (Most of the times)
(Coughs) Donald Trump…
@@NoomStuff
0 likesCorrect
@@IsmailmitiuAbidemi mrbeast is not innocent, but most of the allegations against him are made up or twisted to look worse
0 likesHilarious that dogpack STILL hasn't apologized for slandering MrBeast's CEO for being a domestic abuser. Dude is rotten to the core
0 likesMan, I knew I couldn't trust Rosanna
0 likesI knew MrBeast was innocent
0 likes20:10 you aint slick I see you a priest player in Hearthstone
0 likesYou're out here doing the lord's work. Amazing job, Soggy
0 likesdogpack is finished. RIP
0 likesdogpack and his cronies are lowkey evil
0 likesThis is so devastating, dogpack is absolutely cooked
0 likesfinally some actual journalism
0 likesMrBeast is back, babyyyyy
1 likeDude, dogpack404 just needs to quit. He's awful at what he does
0 likesI'm upset with Dogpack because he made it harder to show legitimate criticism of Mr. Beast. You could easily and truthfully show how messed up the morals of Mr. Beast are, with his glorification of capitalistic greed, appearance on Joe Rogan's podcast, and involvement with Lunchly + many more things. But after Dogpack's whole thing, when I say that I don't like Mr. Beast or I hear valid criticism, it's lumped in with Dogpack's false accusations.
3 likesJimmy is collating with Logan Paul and KSI because he's like them...
5 likesDon't just blindly believe his people wtf?
Jimmy is collabing with Logan Paul and KSI because he's like them...
6 likesDon't blindly believe his people, bro wtf?
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if you watched the video you would see that soggy litterally said that the logan paul and ksi colab was cringe hes not defending anyone hes just debunking the lies of dogpack404
4 likesTime to relax
0 likeswhat the what
0 likesholy shit guys is the meta mrbeast expose finally here???
0 likesA cinematic masterpiece
0 likesTimestamps:
1 like3:00 Delaware
17:00 illegal lottery
20:10 dogfood scam
21:20 feastibles has "more sugar" than hershes
22:00 faked videos/cgi
23:30 dogpack trying to manipulate soggy 😉
24:10 c3po
26:00 mr beast work chat
30:00 pdf anime
32:30 woah, thats wierd dogpack.
33:30 dogpack "breast cancer awareness"
35:20 "faked videos". Also dogpack causes harassment to elderly person
37:10 random subscriber wins video
39:00 discrediting winner of video
41:20 illegal lottery
42:00 dogpack falsely accuses man of domestic violence
43:00 why hes "defending" mr beast
43:30 unethical feastibles practices
45:00 more info on false domestic violence charges
45:40 dogpack's spite
49:50 dogpack's "insider knowledge"
50:40 "rigging challenges"
1:00:00 illegal lottery, "forging signature"
1:03:00 heres dogpack being manipulative.
1:04:25 mr beast employee interviews. All of these people knew dogpack
1:23:00 illegal lottery
I swear this whole drama is an IRL soap opera, with twists and turns everywhere
0 likesbabe wake up soggy cereal posted
0 likesNow this is some real content instead of 20 mins slog the comentary channels post every hour (Morepegasis ahm ahm)
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I gen like watching morepegasus because I do not wish to waste time searching or watching too many videos of different YouTubers, but if DogPack is also a fraud then I don't know who to believe anymore 😭 At the end of the day I did waste my time following this huge drama, I feel like there's no point to watch anything about it anymore until Mrbeast makes an actual video about it which would be never.
0 likesHey soggy, i would make the title more copyrighty or more direct about exposing dogpack for max views
2 likesMost of this stuff was confirmed, dogpack definitely did lie about a lot of stuff, so try look at the other more factual stuff, people have already pointed out the coffeezilla video. Dogpack was just spreading mostly lies but it took us a while to find that out on the other hand, those videos launched investigations into jimmy which turned up actual evidence. To keep rambling, upper echilon literally said some of what dogpack said was fake, like how the Delaware name was fake but then he listed what was real. We don’t need a 90 minute about how everything was fake, 9 minutes of videos already made have proved what you’re talking about.
1 likeHow can you deny the allegations about the cryptocurrency and faking charity and other more allegations
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did you watch the video
2 likesHe did not at any point in the video deny the crypto allegations, you would know this if you watched the video
2 likessoggy's not really defending mr. beast though, he's just providing nuance to a complex situation. you don't have to be so polarized, cuz two things can be true at the same time
1 likeSoggy is an apologist for beast.
5 likesSo let me get this straight all of this is true but somehow no one on his side bothered but apparently Soggy which is unrelated (I assume) did it?
4 likesSo let me get this straight all of this is true but somehow no one on his side bothered but apparently Soggy which is unrelated (I assume) did it?
1 likeTime to get my bowl of cereal for this one
1 likeI was just watching a content cop video lol
3 likesBro this is so annoying why is Mr beast allegations story so confusing
1 likeDoing this comment to boost the algorithm
1 likeSomebody cooked here
0 likesId trust Dogpack any day over this:
5 likesI am so excited to watch this video tomorrow when I have time.
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It is tomorrow :D I have time :D
1 likehow much more longer till this is over?
1 likeAddress the allegations man
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@@SentencesFromMyThoughts oooh lol i was so confused
0 likes@NoomStuff I meant Doggpack404
0 likes???
0 likesReminder: beast is close friends with KSI, Logan Paul and Gary Vee.
2 likesReminder: beast is close friends with KSI, Logan Paul and Gary Vee.
3 likesThe many hate this video will get
1 likeI guess MorePegasus either gotta delete his old videos, or just make 10 more "MrBeast is done" Vids
2 likesNext video: guys by just believing some people I nitpick I found that Epstein was actually innocent.
2 likeslets see how dogpack reacts to this vid 😭😭😭
1 like15 minutes ago yippee
3 likeshi soggy
It’s over it’s done the mrbeast situation just got worse he’s done the end 😱😱
2 likesThank you Mr cereal :)
0 likesIt is funny how everyone was saying Mrbeast is uncancelabe a few months ago and new Everyone is against hom
2 likesNext video do a Diddy was actually innocent and misunderstood.
5 likesE
2 likesYou're right in some points you're still downplaying and doing apologetics for beast.
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@@zonatedspore97acamas Penguinz0 collabed with Mr. Beast before, is Penguinz0 also bad? What about all the actors who were in Collene Balladger's (I don't know and don't respect her enough to learn how to properly spell her name so your going to have to live with that spelling) show before she was exposed as a PDF file, are they bad? Are criminals families bad because they are related to criminals even though they haven't actually commit any crimes themselves? How far are we going to go?
1 like@@chinyang1200 check again, his new formula is worse than Hersheys.
0 likes@@zonatedspore97acamashow is he wrong about feastsbles ? Do you not know how to math or how portions work ?
2 likes@@eugenekrabs141also is no one gonna call out Soggy for being completely wrong about feastables?
3 likesI thought everyone here with Soggy is exposing the truth while the others are complete liars?
@@rahulkuriakose136 I'm commenting as I watch, I personally can do more things at once and if I'm wrong I will take it back.
2 likes@@StrongestMahito I'm commenting as I watch, I personally can do more things at once and if I'm wrong I will take it back.
3 likes@@eugenekrabs141 reason for why he's collabing and being friends with Logan Paul, KSI and Gary Vee?
2 likesdawg, you haven't watched 1/4 of the video yet.
1 likeYou haven’t even watched the full video yet😂
1 likeBecause Mr. Beast isn't even close to half of a tenth of as bad as you guys are making him out to be.
6 likesComplete the video dumbass
0 likesnow this is what the world needed
0 likesOMG this video is a long one!!!
4 likesI gave up on the drams cause I'm to lazy to watch drama and now this is out and so yh I'm confused just going to wait for a response from Mr beast or forget cause it doesn't affect me
1 likeyou made such good content and now you are just a drama seaking piece of shit
1 likeyou might as well take the content cop moniker, idubbbz sucks now
3 likesThis is crazy 😧
1 likeMrBeast ain't gonna f*ck you bro
1 likeSoggy might have just saved mrbeast
6 likes0:42 and it's already full of BS. Nice try.
5 likesNo one is being really helped...
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oh wow.. charity card getting played
2 likesLet's gooo always knew you'd join the light side of billionaire simping
8 likesYou sucked
0 likesIs that Content Cop at home? I'm joking, it was well done :D
1 likei want mrbeast to be good T_T pls soggy HELP HIS CASE!!
2 likesFirst Day Gang
2 likes👇
Not First
2 likes7
1 like"Thank you soggy cereal" we all say in unison (unless this turns out to be a shitshow of a video)
1 likeHow much did they pay you?
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mate he talked against both. Watch the fuckin video.
0 likesskibidi toilet rizz
2 likesI hate the internet
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Then become a monk, you're welcome
0 likesWait dog pack videos are fake?
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@@zonatedspore97acamas but dogpack was actively being malicious in some of these lies, hell we even have a motive cuz bro was fired and begged to get it back. there are no sanits in the drama, only sinners.
1 like@@recreatio he's downplaying and blindly believing the people on beasts team.
2 likes@@zonatedspore97acamas
0 likes3:13 bruh did u even watch the video? how is he apologizing or sweeping anything under the rug??
Not really just soggy being an apologist
5 likesyeah but it does not mean mrbeast is innocent.
7 likessoggy cereal more like content cereal (im gonna regret commenting this)
4 likesShamelessly simping for his hair 😁
4 likesONE AND A HALF HOURS?? amazing
5 likesbro him in the trash bag legit looks like pewdiepie
2 likes2 MINUTES AGO THATS CRAZY]
2 likesLETS GOOOOOOO!!!!! Can’t wait to watch this!!!
2 likesI’ve been waiting for this moment forever
1 likeDang, 90 minutes from Soggy... come on man, I got work to do!
4 likesAli Koca was right about MrBeast
2 likesI predict that this will be the "$1 Lawyer vs. $1,000,000 Lawyer" video which we were all waiting for.
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Yeah mrbeast should do his own video. It's very telling how he gave no response to coffezilla's questions
1 likeDidn't think you would talk about mr beast
1 likeHoly shit finally
1 likeNot surprised
0 likesUnder 100 views is wild
1 likeom god i love your content please respond i told all. y friends about you [and now you have some more subscribers]it would been the world if you would respond.
2 likesGreat video
2 likesohio
1 likew
2 likesWelp there goes dogpack whole Carrer, and also mrbeast sorta sense this one is way more detailed.
8 likesThank you Content Cop, you're the hero we needed
13 likessoggiest cereal
1 likeMrbeast? oh naw it aboutta be lit
2 likesThe moment I’ve been waiting for
5 likes7th
0 likesyes
1 likeW Soggy Cereal
2 likesMrBeast continues getting cooked???
2 likesAN HOUR AND A HALF I LOVE YOU SOGGY ❤❤
1 likeawe
1 likeNot first
2 likesHello
2 likesfirst
1 likeW
1 likeHi
3 likesTrue
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@@shadowdecidueye
0 likesTHE VIDEO IS 1 and a half long a YOU ARE SAYING THAT IS TRUE????
I have a question for you…
Are you easy to manipulate…?
@@STARZZE_STARZ 🤷
1 likeMf the video just released
1 like