mr beast and dogpack404 should both be scrutinized

Jimmy should only be a bit scrutinized, and it should mostly be placed on dogpack. However, it’s unfortunately not happening as long as there are humans without an open mind. They will continue believing the lies from dogpack..

@@nazomius7033Both sides are lying and should both be held accountable. There is no “scrutinize one less than the other.”

@@nazomius7033the dude who scammed his audiance with crypto and uses child and slave labor on his chocolate company should only slightly be scrutinized?

@@C0astinG4mer I don’t see Jimmy spewing lies, idk what you’re on

@@nazomius7033 This video proved some of dogpack's allegations are true. It was obvious what happened to Jake Weddle was not a "war crime." It's still morally wrong. MrBeast's lotteries are still gross and exploitative, whether or not they are legal. Not to mention the crypto stuff. Dogpack may have lied, but Jimmy has honestly done worse overall still, and needs to be held accountable for his gross practices and negligience

@@nazomius7033 saying that eating fewer calories and more salt is healthier for children was a pretty major one. He was also hyping up a cryptocoin while his crypto wallet manager was already dumping it

@@nazomius7033welcome to my world. I swear those types of comments really drive me nuts. Like at least Jimmy is trying to help others before he dies naturally and they still wanna hate on him even tho he has done some bad stuff in the past of his. ☹

@@nazomius7033 then why does he removing comments and wont respond to drama?

@@Maciej_Płóciennik he said he's waiting for dogpack to finally drop that 3rd video but it's taking forever, that's why and he's obviously deleting comments because haters that blindly believe lies aren't welcome anywhere

@@grenouillesupreme i didnt know people saying where is my cookie are blinded haters 💀

@Maciej_Płóciennik  they aren't the ones getting deleted, the ones deleted are the haters

@@grenouillesupreme now yes, but i remember at the beginning of the drama how every critical comment was deleted

@Maciej_Płóciennik  that's just immediate damage control, nothing serious

Mr beast still helps people dog pack doesn’t

I do believe some of what Dogpack says is true for one reason

Why the hell would you not immediately come out and say “this is absolute bullshit” and address it to get it out of the way

No matter what you do, you’re gonna look guilty sure, but it looks more guilty to ignore and silence comments talking about it then just addressing and denying it

@Idk-xj1iq  because he wanted dogapck to release his 3rd video so he could address everything all at once

@@grenouillesupreme <br> I guess that makes sense

@@grenouillesupreme
 I guess that makes sense

@@nazomius7033 someone in the discord server I'm in is one of them

@@Idk-xj1iq because bro literally said he was advised to stay silent by his lawyers bruh the whole lesson of this video is that people gotta be doing they research before talking🤦🏾♂


"dogpack is done" "dogpack is over" "dogpacks empires is crumbling"

The slop commentary content is approaching 😭

@@thebattleshell God, Morepegasus is <b>so</b> annoying. I hate him so much.

@@thebattleshell God, Morepegasus is *so* annoying. I hate him so much.

@@Daymare19 MorePegasus last upload: "MrBeast Just Got exposed big time"

@@thebattleshell<br>To everyone in this chat, Jesus is calling you today. Come to him, repent from your sins, bear his cross and live the victorious life

@@thebattleshell
To everyone in this chat, Jesus is calling you today. Come to him, repent from your sins, bear his cross and live the victorious life

It's Joever
It's Bidone
We're not coming Barack from this

Imagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.


I feel like this was definitely a MrBeast glazing video. It started out OK but the interviews felt like MrBeast was responding to the allegations without him personally responding. You are definitely right to criticize dogpack for the misinformation he spread and it was a shitty thing to do. Knowing that MrBeast is sending your video to commentary channels as his side of the story makes me feel like he had a hand in the making.

Bruh pedo alligation , war crime allegation are literally messed up and same thing yu told is applied to yu how much yu have been paid by bitchpack 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

It's people telling their own experiences he still maintains that the guy did things that should be addressed but we shouldn't be hating on him for false claims.

You’ve literally been brainwashed by dogpack the entire time. The truth just hurts doesn’t it 😂💀


it definitely sucks that dogpack was lying about so much shit, but mrbeast is still a shitty and questionable guy regardless (which i know u touch on in the vid dw). was waiting for a commentary yter i like and trust to make a vid on this. good job!!!!

edit: yes i know a lot of dogpack’s claims were completely disproven, i accept that and acknowledge that mr beast is innocent in those departments, but this video does not cover ALL of the mr beast accusations and drama, just dogpack’s, as well as jake weddle’s briefly.

True but he’s not as bad as other YouTubers

True but he’s not as bad as other YouTubers

@@AdrianAnimations360We should all be thankful MrBeast isn't a Jaystation/QuantumTV level scumbag that throws everything out of the window for the sake of money
Mrbeast is a craphead who always loves to have his company be Logan Paul and KSI still
It's just that this story is fucked up from every standpoint and every side and i expect that MrBeast meatrider who is in the most replies of the comments here to chime in like the smug, worthless bofoon that they are because honestly, they are just as pathetic as MrBreast and DogPack
Sorry for the outburst, just had to chime in

@@AdrianAnimations360 He did illegal gambling and Crypo scams

@@AdrianAnimations360 He did illegal gambling and Crypo scams

@@AdrianAnimations360He's a crypto scammer

@@AdrianAnimations360He's a crypto scammer

@@AdrianAnimations360he is the worst I have ever seen

@@AdrianAnimations360he is the worst I have ever seen

@@AdrianAnimations360 "not as bad as others" doesn't mean good though to be fair

@@AdrianAnimations360 "not as bad as others" doesn't mean good though to be fair

I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows

They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze

I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold

40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told

I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form

They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor

I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours

Life's a fight, but trust, I'm ready for the war

Whoa-oh-oh

This is how the story goes

Whoa-oh-oh

I guess this is how the story goes

I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows

They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze

I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold

40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told

From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king

Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring

See, I believe that if I see it in my heart

Smash through the ceilin' 'cause I'm reachin' for the stars

Whoa-oh-oh

This is how the story goes

Whoa-oh-oh

I guess this is how the story goes

I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows

They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)

I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold

40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told

Highway to heaven, I'm just cruisin' by my lone'

They cast me out, left me for dead, them people cold

My faith in God, mind in the sun, I'm 'bout to sow (yeah)

My life is hard, I took the wheel, I cracked the code

Yeah (whoa-oh-oh)

Ain't nobody gon' save you, man, this life will break you

(Whoa-oh-oh) in the thick of it

This is how the story goes

I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows

They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)

I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold

40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told

I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows (everybody knows)

They know me where it snows, I skied in, and they froze (yeah)

I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold

40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told (ooh-ooh)

Whoa-oh-oh (na-na-na-na-na, ay-ay)

This is how the story goes

Whoa-oh-oh (na-na)

I guess this is how the story goes

@@Jordanisokatnth bro if he is the worse you've seen then you've seen nothing

@@Jordanisokatnth bro if he is the worse you've seen then you've seen nothing

@Sandyy_sandy  bro he is worst than a child predator and trafficker. First off war crimes, second off monopoly of the whole platform, third off friends with said cp/t and hired too, even after he knew of his true intentions

@@AdrianAnimations360 if 99% of youtubers did this, they would be cancelled or deplatformed

@@AdrianAnimations360 if 99% of youtubers did this, they would be cancelled or deplatformed

@@SKNTAi bruh did you watch the video ? the illegal gambling has been busted

@@SKNTAi bruh did you watch the video ? the illegal gambling has been busted

@@toyotauris yea people portray him as if hes an anti human who nuked a city lol

@@toyotauris yea people portray him as if hes an anti human who nuked a city lol

@@xeralt2914 one was made soggy cereal also confirmed one but the crypto scams where exposed By Coffezilla that's why watch the video before Commenting

@@xeralt2914 one was made soggy cereal also confirmed one but the crypto scams where exposed By Coffezilla that's why watch the video before Commenting

yall he made people see. and hear and built 100 homes and wells in africa. he isnt that bad

yall he made people see. and hear and built 100 homes and wells in africa. he isnt that bad

@@xeralt2914actually it is not. soggy quite literally said that the first instance of illegal lottery was in fact technically illegal. also even though its not talked about here, mr beast did do underage gambling. in north carolina it’s illegal to gamble when ur under 21 and he gambled in his late teen years on a gambling site that is illegal to use for everyone regardless.

@@justatestlilbro-nr3ks Jeffrey epstein did the same thing he isnt that bad

@@justatestlilbro-nr3ks Jeffrey epstein did the same thing he isnt that bad

@@xeralt2914 Soggy cereal said himself there was one illegale gambling like i said and the crypto scams exposed by Coffezilla

@@xeralt2914 Soggy cereal said himself there was one illegale gambling like i said and the crypto scams exposed by Coffezilla

Mr Beast is a good person - people just jealous

Mr Beast is a good person - people just jealous

some of these replies are INSANE jesus fucking christ 💀

some of these replies are INSANE jesus fucking christ 💀

@lyndisrobin  why do you call him shitty- what did he do wrong then?

@lyndisrobin  why do you call him shitty- what did he do wrong then?

@@db1671he is manipulating his child audience into buying his poorly made products (lunchly, feastables, beast labs) because he wanted to make a quick buck, he has participated in illegal gambling to make a quick buck, he has harbored pedophiles in his company that he knew were pedophiles (ava tyson), he has made allies with terrible people (elon musk, logan paul), the working conditions of his “challenges” are questionable and many women contestants have reported being harassed, rigging results of his “challenges, he has participated in crypto scams, his “curing blind people” video actually wound up being very harmful to the blind community, he is just another white rich man “philanthropist” who has built a false, harmful narrative about africa, etc. even if dogpack lied about a ton of shit there is no excusing all of that other stuff, something soggy cereal briefly mentions in the video.

@@lyndisrobin As he also pointed out by means of the captain Sparkles vid, it is very easy to do that without realising. In the next streams he fixed his mistake

@@lyndisrobin As he also pointed out by means of the captain Sparkles vid, it is very easy to do that without realising. In the next streams he fixed his mistake

@@arielperez3613he can be 100% be criticized for being wreckless and not doing background checks, but doing so unknowingly is no where near as bad as hiring them knowingly. Also keep in mind he was like 18/19 at the time and the channel was like 5 people and not an entire company with an HR department like it is now. Ignoring this context is just being intentionally dishonest.

@@joebrewbergBeing young doesn’t excuse the lack of responsibility, especially when he had the opportunity to set a better example for millions of people, including vulnerable audiences. Even if the hire was unintentional (which I don’t even know if that’s true because Jimmy knew according to Jake the Viking), the failure to vet his team properly reflects poor judgment that shouldn’t be overlooked.

@@arielperez3613 i agree and said he can be criticized for it, but dogpack framed it as though jimmy 100% knew. Hiring an rso knowingly is way worse than unintentionally hiring one. Especially at that young of an age. Also if Delaware was already a manager at a large store brand like best buy I think it would be reasonable to assume theyve done a background check already, but that's just me being charitable.

Sure.. but you sitll have to do it correctly..hes not a great guy business wise.. but hes not what dogpack is making him out to be either

Sure.. but you sitll have to do it correctly..hes not a great guy business wise.. but hes not what dogpack is making him out to be either

@@arielperez3613  Did you even watch this video like at all?? Or are you simply too dumb to comprehend information? How the heck was 18 year old mrbeast supposed to know an employee is a s offender when a multi-million dollar company did not have any clue about it.. Also how can you still trust jake the viking when he is one of those people who has been criticised by BOTH sides of this drama- both weddle and mrbeast employees  have called him out for being a jerk.

Did you watch the fucking video? @@SKNTAi

Did you watch the fucking video? @@SKNTAi

Imma be honest, i think that might get debunked too

Almost everything they said about mr beast was debunked. Lets wait for more evidence

@@SKNTAi

Imma be honest, i think that might get debunked too

Almost everything they said about mr beast was debunked. Lets wait for more evidence

@@SKNTAi

Soggy is such a glazer. He wont get off of mrbeasts junk.  Sorry but his whole argument was Dogpack lied about where is nickname came from and then just says "Yea he was a RSO... but dogpack LIED about his nickname!!!" The outrage we should be feeling because he lied about his nickname.   I lost all respect for soggy.  There have been multiple things confirmed by mrbeast employees/friends like admitting he is an RSO and he was hired at mrbeast and he did wear a mask in 99% of the video.
I havent finished watching but I have a feeling soggy will do this the whole time.  He will twist one little part of the claim and ignore the big picture.  I wonder what he is going to say about not know Chris(Ava) is into pdf art even though he lived with him and had a poster right up in the living room.

Edit" Yep I was right. So now soggy is arguing over whether the word warcrime was used as a joke or was serious instead of the fact that MRBEAST tortured someone for a frickin video. Whether it was a joke or not they still did it and it was by mrbeasts direction for more/better content.  This is not real life anymore. When you are so invested in proving that your idol isnt a bad guy this is the stuff you start to argue about. Semantics.  Please someone update me in the comment which of these arguments hold substance and at what time stamp because I cant watch this trash anymore.

@@user-kf4gt7bo2kpersonally I think the interviews hold more substance . And tbh I don't understand what ur trying to say english is my 2nd language could u simplify?

@@user-kf4gt7bo2kpersonally I think the interviews hold more substance . And tbh I don't understand what ur trying to say english is my 2nd language could u simplify?

@@user-kf4gt7bo2kabout the chris ava tyson pdf art bs I believe he did cover that in a previous video

@@user-kf4gt7bo2kabout the chris ava tyson pdf art bs I believe he did cover that in a previous video

@user-kf4gt7bo2k my personal take a out the rso nickname stuff is that he said dogpack lied about the origin on the nickname saying that's its because he did the crimes in Delamere. But u could see Delamere on the dudes uniform from best buy. Since the nickname is allegedly tied to his previous crimes I think it's relevant and we should talk about it. It also shows dogpack is wiling to make stuff up to prove a point IMO feel free to correct me

@@goldenmonke7582 It doesnt change the fact that he hired one. That was the claim. Yes they added the whole nickname story implying that everyone knew about it but regardless of that story there is a very good chance that everyone at the company knew about it which is why he started wearing a mask.  Yes there is one video from way back in the day from when he was working at best buy but unless you do a deep dive you arent going to find that.  And also they would have no reason to put  him in a mask at that point because he was working for another company. My personal belief is that they hired him not knowing he was an RSO but because of all the locker room talk. It started spreading as a rumor around the office and that joke about him not being allowed in Delaware was most likely born out of those rumors.  But eventually, Mrbeast did know about it or heard something and could have let him go but kept him on payroll and in videos and they decided on wearing a mask.

@@goldenmonke7582 He is not arguing dogpacks overall claim that mr beast did a certain thing. He is arguing the details of the claim that are always going to be wrong when everyone says what is happening.

It is like a girl claiming some guy graped her and then there are a couple people that confirm it but then someone comes out and says but look she said she was wearing a red dress that night and here is a picture of her in a blue dress.  Because she got that  detail wrong then we cant trust anything she says (even though there is other evidence/people saying it did happen).

@@Jordanisokatnth worse than kiddy didlers ?

@@Jordanisokatnth worse than kiddy didlers ?

@user-kf4gt7bo2k  assuming the girl is dogpack who would be the "couple other people"

@user-kf4gt7bo2k  assuming the girl is dogpack who would be the "couple other people"

@user-kf4gt7bo2k  and if assuming the girl is dogpack that would also be like the girl making evidence up too wouldn't it?

@user-kf4gt7bo2k  and if assuming the girl is dogpack that would also be like the girl making evidence up too wouldn't it?

@@lyndisrobin Bro, who tf cares if Mr beast gambled with his own money before 21 ?? Sure it's illegal but it aint unethical

@@lyndisrobin Bro, who tf cares if Mr beast gambled with his own money before 21 ?? Sure it's illegal but it aint unethical

@@arielperez3613 Being young does excuse certain level of mistakes. I don't expect a 19 year old to run a company perfectly.

@@arielperez3613 Being young does excuse certain level of mistakes. I don't expect a 19 year old to run a company perfectly.

@@user-kf4gt7bo2k Stop sucking of dogpacks bro. he literally lied.

@@user-kf4gt7bo2k Stop sucking of dogpacks bro. he literally lied.

@user-kf4gt7bo2k  and I assume ur just talking about the first rso section because the evidence he provides later doesn't rly fit the situation ur telling mr

@user-kf4gt7bo2k  and I assume ur just talking about the first rso section because the evidence he provides later doesn't rly fit the situation ur telling mr

@user-kf4gt7bo2k  did you finish the video? There is literally footage of him hiring Delaware. Or are you ignoring it deliberately?

@user-kf4gt7bo2k  did you finish the video? There is literally footage of him hiring Delaware. Or are you ignoring it deliberately?

@@Jordanisokatnth he definitely isn't the worst of the famous youtubers tho. Don't forget that Onision, who literally adopted a 14 year old girl with the goal of dating her in a few years (and was actually cauht by Chris Hansen), is still on youtube kids (or at least was at the start of the year) and that's pretty difficult to top

@miglek9613  jesus fucking christ, however there is only 1 victim there, which my condolences of course, that must be horrible for her. Now mrbeast currently has an algorithm empire and has brainwashed kids, parents and even youtubers alike. Into believing he is some kind of saint, now since dog pack has shot himself in the foot with a rocket launcher the general public is back to pro mrbeast, is that not bad?

Yeah, just because dogpack wasn't a good guy doesn't mean that Mr beast is completely innocent.

Yeah, just because dogpack wasn't a good guy doesn't mean that Mr beast is completely innocent.

@@testacals…because he is quite literally a gambling addict and it is illegal? and, yeah it is pretty unethical. he thinks that him being filthy rich is more important than the law.

@@qykolasexactly. it’s two shitty parties against one another.

@@qykolasexactly. it’s two shitty parties against one another.

@@lyndisrobin How is his personal issues unethical ? Gambling is a personal vice, as long as harms no one else, why do you care ?

@@lyndisrobin How is his personal issues unethical ? Gambling is a personal vice, as long as harms no one else, why do you care ?

@@miglek9613 wow my reply with the words "jesus <b>*****</b> christ" got deleted but someone who also has it didnt?

@@miglek9613 wow my reply with the words "jesus ******* christ" got deleted but someone who also has it didnt?

"I know ALL the accusations were proven untrue, but he's still a bad guy."

"I know ALL the accusations were proven untrue, but he's still a bad guy."

@@SKNTAibro didn’t watch the video - the illegal gambling got disproved

@@SKNTAibro didn’t watch the video - the illegal gambling got disproved

@@ahobbyist9520 the first case is still illegal

@@ahobbyist9520 the first case is still illegal

Dogpack actually managed to make Mr Beast look like a saint compared to him, ironically

Dogpack actually managed to make Mr Beast look like a saint compared to him, ironically

@@Jordanisokatnth Oh yes, you're right. He did one 'illegal lottery' the first time he did a giveaway, like all youtubers do, not realizing that it was illegal. What a horror! That totally makes him a bad person.

@@Jordanisokatnth if mrbeast is the worst you have ever seen you havent seen many youtubers

@@Jordanisokatnth if mrbeast is the worst you have ever seen you havent seen many youtubers

@@lyndisrobin 1: he wasnt that rich when he was gambling, 2: its not unethical he aint hurting noone, 3: how do you know hes a addict your making stuff up all you know is he gambled atleast once while under 21 and the word addict is thrown around

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit i think people are being a bit hard on him considering the ones that werent disproven werent that serious

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit i think people are being a bit hard on him considering the ones that werent disproven werent that serious

@@MikeTheMaster102 trust me I know of alot,i already explained this but youtubes heavy censorship deleted it, anyway he is without a doubt, his monopoly on the platform makes it easy for him to influence the algorithm into what ever topic he wants, want curing blindness, sure! want $1 vs $1,000,000, go ahead! he can choose this on a whime, now that make shim the worst creator to ever join the platform

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit hop off man, he wont choose you for a video

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit hop off man, he wont choose you for a video

@@Jordanisokatnth how is that bad i dont get it

@@Jordanisokatnth how is that bad i dont get it

@MikeTheMaster102  it means it's hard for small creators to keep up, like myself, it's harder to grow now than like 2013 or smth

@MikeTheMaster102  it means it's hard for small creators to keep up, like myself, it's harder to grow now than like 2013 or smth

@@Jordanisokatnth alr but how does that make him worse than pedophiles and murderers lol

@@Jordanisokatnth alr but how does that make him worse than pedophiles and murderers lol

@MikeTheMaster102  because it effects more people than a single or small group of victims, now it's horrible this stuff happens but unless there was a youtuber similar to that Austrian painter then mrbeast is currently the crown holder

@@Jordanisokatnth "Huhuhu you're not getting swept up in the angry mob, you must be hoping for his favor!!!" Pathetic.

@@Jordanisokatnth "Huhuhu you're not getting swept up in the angry mob, you must be hoping for his favor!!!" Pathetic.

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit the only thing pathetic here is you sticking up for someone who doesn't know you

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit the only thing pathetic here is you sticking up for someone who doesn't know you

@@Jordanisokatnth It's sad that you think the only people who deserve to be treated fairly and not slandered are the people you know, but that really says more about you than me.

@@Jordanisokatnth It's sad that you think the only people who deserve to be treated fairly and not slandered are the people you know, but that really says more about you than me.

@Thedarkbunnyrabbit yes, you're right. Everyone should be treated fairly. However, mrbeast doesn't know you, never heard of your username, never saw you subscribe to him, and will never put you in a video unless you have 10m< subscribers. And you still defend him with your life

@@toyotaurisit depends on what other YouTubers have done worse than Jimmy's "accusations" but yeah I agree Jimmy has done some bad stuff

@@toyotaurisit depends on what other YouTubers have done worse than Jimmy's "accusations" but yeah I agree Jimmy has done some bad stuff

@@Jordanisokatnth I don't care what Mr. Beast thinks of me, nor what he will do for me. What I care about is the truth. Which is what you should care about, too, not what people can do for you.

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit the truth is mrbeast IS a horrible person, the worst ever part is an opinion

@@Thedarkbunnyrabbit the truth is mrbeast IS a horrible person, the worst ever part is an opinion

@@Jordanisokatnth There is absolutely no factual basis behind what you just said. All accusations of him being a horrible person have been disproven.

@@Jordanisokatnth There is absolutely no factual basis behind what you just said. All accusations of him being a horrible person have been disproven.

@@ahobbyist9520 are you blind one was real i said the singular from illegal gambling was true even soggy cereal said that did you watch the video and what about the crypto scams from exposed by Coffezilla

@@ahobbyist9520 and no i don't defend dogpack404 anymore

@@ahobbyist9520 and no i don't defend dogpack404 anymore

How does it feel that a supposed trash person like Mr.Beast has changed more ppl's lives for the better than you all will ever do?

How does it feel that a supposed trash person like Mr.Beast has changed more ppl's lives for the better than you all will ever do?

@@lyndisrobin i was always skeptical about the drama but when he dropped lunchly the it basically destroyed any possibility of innocence for me. The dogpack allegations may have been false, but Mr beast still talked about Ava's dick on a discord with minors, he still partnered with two horrible people, the beast games stuff still happened, he's still ignorant of how to safely handle things, and the crypto scams allegations still stand

@@NoName-lf6kc mate read my above reply, Mr beast isn't completely innocent

@@NoName-lf6kc mate read my above reply, Mr beast isn't completely innocent

@@qykolasthis is all true. i typed out a massive comment about all of the other shit he did but unfortunately youtube didn’t let me post it.

@@qykolasthis is all true. i typed out a massive comment about all of the other shit he did but unfortunately youtube didn’t let me post it.

@@qykolas but he still has positively impacted the world more than you. I don't care if he's the greediest person on the planet(your other allegations haven't been proven), he's still done more charitable deeds than this entire comment section ever will

@NoName-lf6kc  wow, you got hostile quick, I was just saying that he's not in the clear, whether or not he's a good person is determined by whether he does charity to make money or if he makes money to do charity, him teaming up with Logan Paul and ksi isn't a good look on him and the beast games allegations were backed up by actual hospitals. Just because dogpack was evil and wrong doesn't mean that Mr beast is a saint. Lunchly mold and beast games were both examples that Mr beast can't be trusted to handle a business setting. Also, why hasn't mr beast responded to the allegations yet. Soggy shouldn't have to be the one to destroy dogpacks credibility, Mr beast could've given the same info. If Mr beasts end goal is just to make money, then his charity isn't charity, it's a job. Doctors save lives and make money, but it's not charity because they're doing it for money. If Mr Beast's charity is just for the money then he's never done a charity in his life. If you gain more than the person you're helping then you're not doing charity. I was always on the fence because of this, the entirety of lunchly seems to show that Mr beast is a capitalist, not a philanthropist.

@NoName-lf6kc  bro stop using charity as a shield, let me name some people who positively impacted a group of people with charity, Oh we have Jeffery Epstein, that Austrian painter (my reply will get deleted), Kris Tyson (involvement will mrbeast) they must be great people

@@SKNTAi But in this video he debunks the illegal lotteries?<br>Didn't you watch the video or did I miss something?

@@SKNTAi But in this video he debunks the illegal lotteries?
Didn't you watch the video or did I miss something?

Agreed, seems nobody else really went deep into this so seemed neet!

Agreed, seems nobody else really went deep into this so seemed neet!

@@SKNTAiOnly the latter possibly, the former was disproven if you watched the vid.

@@SKNTAiOnly the latter possibly, the former was disproven if you watched the vid.

@@lyndisrobinHe really didn't the vid made it very clear that only adults could enter it.

@@lyndisrobinHe really didn't the vid made it very clear that only adults could enter it.

This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
<br>Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.

This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.

@shadowed69  with no proof too! Where is the soggy exposed video?

@shadowed69  with no proof too! Where is the soggy exposed video?

@shadowed69  He's not, you believing the word of the guy who never actually told them of the guy's history until much later when the person actually was kicked.

@shadowed69  He's not, you believing the word of the guy who never actually told them of the guy's history until much later when the person actually was kicked.

@@SKNTAi A youtuber who is known for his philanthropy and, now, illegal gambling is NOT the same as a serial pdf file, trafficker and kidnapper who was barely even known in the first place for financing

@@WhyThoOz He knew about kris tyson being a pdf file he recommendet kris tyson to watch the video and didn't acually pay for the hospitl that cured blindness also no im not dogpack404 fan but still doesn't mean that mrbeast is like the antichrist no but does it mean what he done id bad yes so nobody is innocene and he isn't the worst sorry for my bad englisch

@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl are you acoustic the cry ptoscams are real exposed by <br>Co ffryzilla  and one of the illigale gambling was true i used a singular and do you know why i put a space because my comments are getting deleted so if this gets deleted ikd what to do

@@DanielJacobs-rz1zl are you acoustic the cry ptoscams are real exposed by
Co ffryzilla  and one of the illigale gambling was true i used a singular and do you know why i put a space because my comments are getting deleted so if this gets deleted ikd what to do


Maybe the real Mr beast drama were the friends we made along the way


Who was recording that conversation of him talking to the COO? Curious. After watching this video, it’s opened my eyes to just how we really need to always second guess things and do our own research. Because people may have bad motives and use heavy manipulation to direct a narrative. Love the videos you’ve done. Subscribed after you called out Airracks fake videos.

Thank god they recorded that conversation to have proof later of how badly he wanted that job.  Dogpack turned out to be the exact kind of person you never want to hire, and somehow "slipped thru the cracks" (as Dogpack would put it) into getting hired after being rejected TWICE. I think that his female coworker was being kind on how bad working alone with him in a room was.

Maybe it was the COO and the other people like the managers recording maybe

That recording is suspicious to me and all too convenient (assuming it's real). The only reason one might have to record this kind of conversations is because they're scared of being accused of something. Also, if you're aware you're being recorded and the other person isn't, you can really manipulate the outcome in your favor. IMHO this just adds to fuel against MrBeast and his company, rather than make DogPack untrustworthy.

it just precaution for a lot of companies. A good reason is to defend from lawsuit if the ex-employee retaliate with lawsuit.

My guess is that it's probably from a security camera or something similar.

@@thescooshinator Security cameras don't have audio, except rare exceptions.

from the volume of the voices it sounds like dogpack's manager was recording it, and personally i believe it's a genuine recording bc the audio sounds too complex for ai to generate (the various volumes of people in the room, and overlapping talking at some points) but i definitely agree that there should be an explanation of how he got the recording in the first place, especially in a video about debunking info

@@FrankBrennosTheGreatesthey so fun fact! Most companies record job interviews and firings so that if and when a case is made against them for violating anti discrimination laws you can make a case easier! Just letting you know!

@@unity2808 I have never had a job interview that was recorded. I've never been fired though, I'll admit that, but I can't imagine these being recorded either in most cases. If you've done nothing wrong as a company and you have a valid reason for terminating someone's contract, you shouldn't have anything to fear. I don't see what's to gain from recording the moment you fire the person. If anything, it's a good way to put pressure on someone who might say something wrong in a moment of vulnerability. It's shady AF.

@@noot-noot-pingu-noot-noot you do realize that you can just add the background noises and overlapping talking in yourself after getting the ai recording right. big oversight in your thinking bud

Wife has been an HR Manager at many companies for the last 20+ years. Most employers/Human Resources departments record all interactions - especially during hiring/suspensions/firing - for compliance & litigation cases. Many states do not require disclosure that you state you are recording, whereas 2 party states have to disclose it. It’s to protect the company because so many people try to claim sexism, racism, and more when they are doing their interviews and/or exit interviews (firings). It’s not the least bit uncommon with bigger companies especially

@@FrankBrennosTheGreatestif you’ve done nothing wrong you have all the more reason to record to prevent anyone making completely false allegations, so you can easily disprove these

@@FrankBrennosTheGreatest security cams often have audio esp in big places its just usual trashy audio, I imagine they record it to use if someone sues for son dumb like getting fired rightfully.

where I work has audio and video on cameras but you have to raise your voice for it to make sense....

@@FrankBrennosTheGreatest People commenting to you seem to miss one question, "Where's the rest of the audio?".

This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
<br>Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.

This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.

Are you fucking sure a small employee is going to talk to the COO for being fired, the audio is clearly fake.

@@poopypants9983exactly it’s a small part of the video, did you regret saying those things and what are those things? It’s cut in a way to discredit someone.


How about the allegation of him promoting gambling to kids with a video of a minor doing a virtual slot machine?

Nobody is saying Mr beast is a good person. Just that this dudes full of shit

Stop trying to defend Dogpack, None of them are in the right

yeah bro why are you asking legit questions 😔😔😔😔😔😣🥲😖😖🫣😫😫😫

It's not gambling ffs. Simply just Google or ask ChatGBT what gambling is...

A slot machine ain't gambling... If U bet real life money or asset on it which you'd lose if U don't win is what gambling is...

When U r buying chocolate to enter a game based on slot machine, U r not losing anything, cuz U already paid your money for chocolate, no one taking that chocolate away from u...

If U don't lose any property it's not gambling by definition


people wanna believe that they are free thinkers so bad but as soon as a video like this drops, they suddenly switch sides. how about you stay neutral bc none of these people know you and don’t blindly support either side as soon as they say something new

EDIT: YOURE ALLOWED TO CHANGE YOUR MIND WHEN NEW EVIDENCE IS SHOWN,
for fuck sake, I’m not saying that you’re not, I just meant it’s funny how a lot people say that they’re going to remain neutral until the situation is nearly over, yet they bandwagon on either side of the extreme when it comes to information that’s still word of mouth

nah nah nah trust, mrbeast will buy me a new car

GLORY TO BEASTOTZKA!!!!

New info is new info man, we all have lives outside the internet, I think

This video says literally what I have said since Dogpack's initial video dropped. He was obviously a lying disgruntled employee and I have shut him out ever since.

You know people don't care. People like to hate, either one side or the other. The only person I mildly trust from this video is Dustin. Probably because of the beard.

I don’t get paid to research a topic that has 0 impact on my life like silly drama. So ill change sides with new information but in the end it really doesn’t matter

the thing is --- people are free thinkers --- but people are also prone to falling for propaganda whether it be on a large or small scale. i think this video demonstrates just how easy it was for many people to do their own research into the claims since much of it was readily available and that those who did, were disregarded. after all, a lie travels quicker than the truth - especially when you have a loud enough megaphone.

I never believed Dogpack for a second, So if anything I'm just glad the truth has finally come out.

His downfall in my eyes happened after he released his second video. I couldn’t put my finger on it at the time, but a lot about Jake Weddle’s story just felt off. Like it was straight out of a movie. After reviewing his story again and Jake tarnishing his credibility by taking money from Mr. Beast, I knew this guy was just a crybaby who doesn’t want to take any accountability in his life. Seeing as how Dawson is willing to associate and relentlessly defend Jake, I knew he was an untrustworthy source

bro when mrbeast got "cancelled" i was laughing at all the comments on dogpack's video like "i knew there was something off about mrbeast" or "wait people didnt know his vids were fake?" now dogpack gets exposed and everyone was like "bro i knew the whole time mrbeast was innocent" and "ive been on mrbeasts side the whole time" i never chose a side fully but mrbeasts side of the story always seemed more reasonable to me

Nah, I have a foolproof system, where I just believe whatever I saw most recently.  47% of the time, it works EVERY time!!

guys don't have opinions based on facts, if you have an opinion you have to stick by it till you die!!!!!

Ive always been on mrbeasts side, i don't believe you should hate on a guy js cus some egirl is mad

@ I’m not saying you can’t change your mind when actual evidence comes to light, I just think it’s funny how many people say they’re going to remain neutral until the situation is near over, yet they bandwagon on either side of the extreme when it’s still he said she said

again, you can feel how you want abt facts but when it’s still “allegedly blah blah blah” it’s strange how quick netizens jump on that narrative

I feel like this is true as when someone else thought Jimmy didn't do that, they basically forced them to believe them, and I think now it's gonna be the opposite

So we’re not allowed to switch sides? Got it.

As someone who was stayed out of the entire drama and has remained as neutral as possible until everything blows over and all the information is revealed...

Yes, people should do that more often, and while I do generally lean towards Mr Beast, I have stayed more or less neutral in the whole situation with Mr Beast.

@@MikeTheMaster102 that argument is so dumb bc the people making those comments aren’t the same people. you’re telling me the same person who said “i knew it” on the other video are the exact same ppl on this one saying “i knew it”

@ read my reply to some1 else who said the same thing as you

@@misomar7193 i see very few comments admitting they agreed with dogpack and i see very few comments on dogpacks video admitting they liked mrbeast, atleast some people are pretending that they were always right

@@BaconerriaCongrats you won custom painted mr beast car with MR BEAST on the car.

Nothing neutral about this, Mr Beast is a children scamming pos. What other discusion to even have?

Implying it's not possible for a free thinker to change their mind on something when they gain new information is just dumb. There's no point in being as stubborn and thick headed when the evidence is laid out clearer and more coherent than any of dogpack's videos


How the fuck did you have any access to such private informations like Dogpack firing audio record? Even Coffeezilla, a YouTuber much more bigger than you cannot even contacted an employee. <br>This is just another damage control i guess?

How the fuck did you have any access to such private informations like Dogpack firing audio record? Even Coffeezilla, a YouTuber much more bigger than you cannot even contacted an employee.
This is just another damage control i guess?

because coffee is actually good investigator and they cannot control him unlike soggy.

@@RadenHZ26 there is literally no defending dog pack anymore, especially since his not monetized videos are now monetized

@@stanmangamer2264 Mr.Beast is not gonna let you hit lil bro 😭

@@strateks9611 I’m sure Mr pack would let you hit because he’s gonna need all the support he can get

I’m sure he has the majority anyways since his 5 year old audience just wants to hate someone more popular

could be but still if mrbeast could have sold this man out he would have defended mrbeast completely. He says most allegations are true in the video and that hes just adressing the ones that he thinks that arent true and ones that he knows of. I do agree with you on the private information part though, strange. Maybe he had connections with mrbeast members even before  the drama started, all the talking he got with that manager dude says so.

Im not sure though

@@strateks9611 did you get confused? I’m not defending Mr beast, I’m making it abundantly clear that dogpack is worse

@@stanmangamer2264 idc about dogpack, but Mr beast is still doing bad shit, and even if dogpack is lying, that doesn't mean all the allegations towards Mr beast aren't true.


There are no heroes in this war, just more villains.

they r probably doing a competition on who could be the most villainous

@@Bockanator ever heard of an expression?


Me deleting my comment calling this video propaganda just for it to come out that this video is propaganda two days later is hilarious

(For anyone wondering, someone at Mr. Beast paid for Soggy Cereal’s flight to the US. Then Mr. Beast started begging drama channels to cover this video. As a reply said on another comment, Mr. Beast “100% had editorial control.” This is just another variation on “I’ve investigated myself and concluded I have done nothing wrong.”)

Everyone who fell for this is extremely gullible because it hit a bunch of propaganda 101 language in the first five minutes.

That your assumption or heresay? Can you show me where this is said so i get the full picture?

"propaganda" mrbeast asked people to cover it so people wont think hes that bad as dogpack said.<br>Also even if he was paid (he wasnt) the video still disproves the allegations so your argument doesnt make sense.

"propaganda" mrbeast asked people to cover it so people wont think hes that bad as dogpack said.
Also even if he was paid (he wasnt) the video still disproves the allegations so your argument doesnt make sense.

@@maximusbeltraplacian5747 he admits in a Chud Lud stream a “Mr. Beast employee” paid for his flight tickets.

@@MrMarcusGD I am so sorry your education failed you. If you receive gifts or compensation from a subject, you have to throw the entire investigation out and someone else has to redo it from scratch. It’s not credible if you have been paid.

@@maximusbeltraplacian5747 Chud Lud stream.

@@Lacewise hey how did you find out that mrbeast begged drama channels? I just know from chud logic interview with soggy that mrbeast paid soggy


I commend you for doing real journalism. I will admit that I was one of the people that fell for dogpack's allegations and I commend you for taking the time to truly dive into all these allegations. Not just doing in depth research, viewing the allegations from a more charitable perspective, but I was incredibly impressed that you flew to America at your own expense and did these interviews. Again, thank you for doing real journalism and fantastic video!

@@liamzorowait liamzoro what are you doing here 🤣

Fell? He was right at first, he just basically suicided all attempts after

I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows

They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze

I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold

40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told

I'm in my prime, and this ain't even final form

They knocked me down, but still, my feet, they find the floor

I went from livin' rooms straight out to sold-out tours

Life's a fight, but trust, I'm ready for the war

Whoa-oh-oh

This is how the story goes

Whoa-oh-oh

I guess this is how the story goes

I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows

They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze

I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold

40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told

From the screen to the ring, to the pen, to the king

Where's my crown? That's my bling, always drama when I ring

See, I believe that if I see it in my heart

Smash through the ceilin' 'cause I'm reachin' for the stars

Whoa-oh-oh

This is how the story goes

Whoa-oh-oh

I guess this is how the story goes

I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows

They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)

I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold

40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told

Highway to heaven, I'm just cruisin' by my lone'

They cast me out, left me for dead, them people cold

My faith in God, mind in the sun, I'm 'bout to sow (yeah)

My life is hard, I took the wheel, I cracked the code

Yeah (whoa-oh-oh)

Ain't nobody gon' save you, man, this life will break you

(Whoa-oh-oh) in the thick of it

This is how the story goes

I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows

They know me where it snows, I skied in and they froze (whoo)

I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold

40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told

I'm in the thick of it, everybody knows (everybody knows)

They know me where it snows, I skied in, and they froze (yeah)

I don't know no nothin' 'bout no ice, I'm just cold

40-somethin' milli' subs or so, I've been told (ooh-ooh)

Whoa-oh-oh (na-na-na-na-na, ay-ay)

This is how the story goes

Whoa-oh-oh (na-na)

I guess this is how the story goes

Ikr!  There's a good reason Soggy is one of my fav youtubers <333

@@liamzoro Lol how strange that you found my comment!

He still exposed mrbeast, don't get ahead of yourself. The leaked chat logs, ava Chris Tyson's activities, illegal auctions etc are undeniable proof of wrongdoing on Jimmy's part.

You mean by not relying on trust me bro & doing actual work.

@@Zewind<br>He still gave valid accusations that Jimmy hasn’t responded to, and Jimmy instead of trying to respond decides to comment on this video.

@@Zewind
He still gave valid accusations that Jimmy hasn’t responded to, and Jimmy instead of trying to respond decides to comment on this video.

@@liamzoro
Where are you going after you die?

What happens next? Have you ever thought about that?

Repent today and give your life to Jesus Christ to obtain eternal salvation. Tomorrow may be too late my brethen😢.

Hebrews 9:27 says "And as it is appointed unto man once to die, but after that the judgement

@@legaming2678 Yea i never said dogpack was entirely wrong lol

So apparently and allegedly this guy Dustin and this other people out of nowhere decides to speak with him because of a slop video? And when do these interviews happen? Am I supposed to believe it happened after the internal investigation? Didn't the investigators retain/recommend employees during the investigation to not make public statements in order to ensure accurate information and avoid witness getting tainted?

dont listen to this guy, hes also a fraud

people really have short term memory loss

the moment somebody comes with a reasonably long video essay and speaks in an academic tone against soggy, yall would jump ship again

@@TheTrueBlueOneits not jumping ship its disproving alegations with facts noone is picking sides here

@@legaming2678Yo guys can you tell me what mrbeast was charge for that he hasn't accounted for or were not fake

@@tobyonatabe2601Benefit of the doubt.
1. MrBeast was not active enough to pick up the individual ages of every person present. Chat logs show that there is no activity from MrBeasts side whenever a minor would be mentionning their age.
2. The server was originally for Chris' ADULT friend group to play video games. Eventually those friends invited other friends and grew a community, where the minors actually come from. MrBeast did not know Lava prior to this.
3. MrBeast was typically not very social with the strangers (would include both adults and minors) in the server (stated by Brainfreak)

@aahhhhhhhhhhhhh  no doubt there imo but suit yourself

I didn't fall for it because he was so intense with his original accusations of the whole place being surrounded and busted by police, then bringing 0 evidence of something THAT extreme... it just seemed outrageous.  What's his personal gripe??  Pretty obviously he's resentful... I'm only 10 mins in the vid I hope it's stated

@@TheTrueBlueOne Can't speak for anyone else but not me. I've been watching soggy for a few years now and I trust his opinion. Also the evidence is just much better researched and believable in hindsight compared to dogpack

This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
<br>Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.

This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.


not if low efford youtubers like you keep posting useless videos about it


Man i always thought i was good at media literacy and misonformarion recognition but i really bought every single lie dogpack presented. Im very thankful for you diligence and hope we all learn a bit from this situation.

I think a good position to take no matter what when something like this happens is to “wait for both sides” as I did

While I did that I gathered information and responses from other people

Just be glad you’re not doubling down on dogpack now you have the proof he’s lying.

It’s crazy to me how many people fell for dogpack sheesh

It’s crazy to me how many people fell for dogpack sheesh

@@loslingos1232 Who's AL and why should we think about him?

@@loslingos1232 Who's AL and why should we think about him?

This whole situation made me feel that I am good at media literacy and misinformation recognition, but in whole honesty I probably am not and was just able to tell this one isolated time.

The first video was the only one I fell for. After that I could mostly see through the BS.

idiot believed his lies that had no proof

idiot believed his lies that had no proof

And you still didn't have any inkling of a possible motive that Jimmy's brand could be posturing this at all. You sweet summer child.

I thought i was good at recognizing misinformation but clearly not. I blindly believed everything the dog guy said without actually fact checking anything. But as they always say: the moment you believe you can’t be scammed is probably the moment it will happen.

Listen ok.

Can we just all at least acknowledge that these two are practically doing the same thing - they both have almost no evidence to prove that there statements are in fact true

Plus I don’t really think that mr beast is the best person - not for the reasons that were told in either videos - mr beast comes off as a chronic lier who shows little to no remorse. Manipulating people and others situations for his own benefit - giving away such a small percentage of his money is a way of him making more money and collecting an audience of people who will defend him no matter what.

This is why I never trust ANYONE on the internet. Always do your own research

Yea I don't blame you it is extremely easy to make fake evidence all you need is to hire someone make fake conversations and boom you can frame them for cheating

Everyone believes they have good media literacy when the accusations are directed at someone they already find disagreeable. "My guy" though? Always innocent.

If you bought everything Dogpack said, then you were never good at those things to begin with. There were people calling out his lies the entire time, and people just wrote it off as riding for Mr. Beast. Those same people are like “wOw, I cAnT bElIeVe He LiEd” as if they haven’t written off people calling it out.

If you believed DogPack without any sort of questioning or scrutiny, your media literacy and misinformation recognition skills really aren't the best. Just because a video is well edited and presented in a serious tone, does not mean it is gospel. Always be critical of what you consume, no matter who it comes from. That said, it was rather obvious that a lot of the accusations were going to be baseless when he started going after "CGI" that wasn't even relevant to the video in the first couple of minutes 😭😭😭

well he is very good at manipulating people, so dont worry bro

Me too. I feel so silly for blindly believing Dogpack's lies.

I mean, I did used to believe some of what he said, but I also kept waiting for Mr Beast himself to respond to it before making a final decision.

Plus, I don't think you can fabricate so much about someone without having at least a sliver of truth, to give it legitimacy. I say don't feel too bad if this slipped past you. Mr.Beast did not help his own case by not saying a word if this was all lies that could be refuted and the kernels of truth "legitimized" the lies in the eyes of many people.

Ah, but could not Soggy also be lying about things in this video, and you yourself are buying it all completely?

@@grunkleg.2934 he could be but it depends on some of the points. He has presented a lot of evidence for many points. A lot of dogpack’s allegations were from anonymous Mr beast employees while the ones that soggy presented come from named, real Mr beast employees. I trust the word of someone who is provably from Mr beast than someone who is unknown. Of course the employee may have a bias but when the only thing backing up dogpack’s allegations is a mystery person you probably shouldn’t trust it.

For example, it is proved that Delaware’s name was not given to him by Mr beast and was actually from when he worked at Best Buy. However, the theory is that Mr Beast was hiring people to work at his company and found Delaware as a best buy manager and assumed they would have done background checks on him and hired him to his company before knowing he was an RSO. That is an assumption but it makes a lot of sense because Jimmy was like 18 years old at the time and his mom probably would not have hired Delaware had she known he was RSO (that is an assumption not backed by evidence). Also Jake the Viking was hired after Delaware was, so I doubt Jake actually knew how Delaware was hired.

Hopefully but these comments that may still not believe soggy, I hope you are right because the more time passes, the more hate Jimmy gets

@ That is true, but we will have to wait and see. The topic is very contentious and it’s obvious not everyone in the situation is telling the whole truth.

Same<br>Honestly I think its easy to just get swept up in the drama

Same
Honestly I think its easy to just get swept up in the drama

Not the same for me, everything he did and said was incredibly fishy. I think people are very easily susceptible to mob mentality and wanting to rally against a supposed villain more than they think. The claims he made were downright ridiculous, unsubstantiated. He made a few decent claims. That dude he brought on was so fishy too.

I didn't :D

I also will stand by my belief that Colleen Balinger is not a groomer and should not have been cancelled
She could have changed some things, like not interacting so personally with fans and having more respect for fans.  But other than that, mob mentality and resentment was used by Adam successfully just like with Dogpack and the mob mindset bewilders me so insanely much

This whole video was financed with mister beast money. A beast worker paid for soggy tickets to fly over there for the interview...

@@sanitygone-l9y how is the CGI not relevant to DogPack's video when his point was that the videos are faked?

This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
<br>Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.

This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.

@@beatmagas8953 Because one basic quick look at the videos he's talking about would very easily show that CGI was not being used in the actual stunt.

This video is also sketchy. Soggy even admitted that Mr beast paid for his flight to the US to film this and he gave him access to a bunch of high level beast employees.

This isn’t unbiased at all either.

@@droketheroperright lol. It’s not even hidden. The flight is all you need to think about. But the access to employees is sooo obvious, nobody else says peep but this guy walks into down and everyone clears their calendar? 😂

I implore you to watch Dogpack’s video again, Soggy does not actually mention a lot of Dogpack’s claims, rather focusing on minor details that he can attack.

Soggy is using this time when the memory of Dogpack’s original claims has faded from recent memory to manipulate people opinions.

The best way to combat misinformation is to listen to both sides of the conversation.

@@fleacosmos66 i watched the videos twice and Soggy disproves Almost every claim he makes. But even if he didnt disprove everything the fact that dogpack made up so much shit and was so shitty in the DMS to Soggy is enough

@@awsomerobyn2603 They are not doing the same Thing and soggy acknowleges that mr beast is doing and has done shady shit but that doesnt make anything dogpack said true lol

@@sanitygone-l9ythats literally what i said lol

@@sanitygone-l9ythats literally what i said lol


the fact that delaware remained hired, to a point where he had to appear on video with a mask on means that at some point they found out and didnt care to fire him.

Or it could be a bit u don’t have any info on that nor do I so your accusation is baseless

Maybe they let him be in a video and he chose to wear a mask to hide his face.  That wouldn't necessitate them knowing about his past.

Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.

@@shadowed69  He pointed out some important context which Dogpack either missed or intentionally left out

@@shadowed69 I think Viking is untrustworthy, considering how he changed his story about his depature from MrBeast several times, continued to try to milk what he could from the situation (such as his tweets that "Jimmy knew", when that would mean that Jake ALSO knew), and trying to backtrack once it came out that Delaware was related to him. I'm not saying he's lying, but I would not take his word as the truth by itself

I would agree, but Jake specifically admitted that information to defend Delaware, so it seems pretty sound.

Plus, what reason would Delaware have to think that Jimmy wasn't going to run a background check on him? That's what most employers do. So obviously Delaware is going to explain himself before he immediately loses the job (which is what any RESPONSIBLE employer would have done).

I would agree, but Jake specifically admitted that information to *defend* Delaware, so it seems pretty sound.

Plus, what reason would Delaware have to think that Jimmy *wasn't* going to run a background check on him? That's what most employers do. So obviously Delaware is going to explain himself before he immediately loses the job (which is what any RESPONSIBLE employer would have done).

@@godartz3064 he's literally on the fucking registry, fym no info

Or he probably begged them to keep him, thwg felt bad and did

@@yous2244 judging by the tone of the conversation, it doesn’t seem like Dawson is angry at all.

@@godartz3064so then you saying it is baseless is also baseless in itself

just because he remained hired doesnt mean they know. Companies just dont do daily background checks everyday.

You either didn't watch the whole video or just weren't paying attention.


Probably deleted it to make sure it’s clear he didn’t pay soggy to make the video and soggy did it on his own accord

He deleted it so that his younger audience won’t know about the fake allegations

wait no way did he actually say something?

@@ermtosis he said something along the lines of "finally someone doesnt spread mindless slander against me lol"

@@ermtosishe said <br>“Finally someone who doesn’t spread baseless rumours about me”

@@ermtosishe said
“Finally someone who doesn’t spread baseless rumours about me”

Most likely removed bc of backlash, soggy talking about coffeezilla’s vide & an all right pr issue

@@lirich0Most likely too prideful and took the video in the wrong way

I got a screenshot of his comment before the deletion of his comment

"Finally! A video that doesn't spread baseless
slander about me lol"

He probably finished the video and realised it didn't say mrbeast was a good person.

@@lirich0 The airfare for this was paid under the table by a MB affiliate named Dustin, because (by his own admission) Soggy couldn't afford it. The video literally wouldn't exist without help from a third party.

I found his Comment in DingoBroLug video "MrBeast Is Innocent"

@@iCanOnlyHave30CharactersInMyNaI was going to reply but your name is so scuffed

@@Anime_OniHe may have deleted the comment, but he is going around telling other YouTubers to react the video on Instagram. He is probably trying out a new strategy.

@@Anime_Oni he actually said Finally, a video that doesent spread baseless slander about me

It's not deleted tho because I have link still and i can see his comment

@ I could barely see my reply, you broke my UI 💀


Pretty sure in less than a month we're gonna have someone debunking MrBeast, dogpack AND you 😭😭😭

Nobody debunked his Aorrack claims so i doubt it


i find it wild that even after you repeatedly said that mr. beast isn't innocent or above criticism, some are still acting like you're waving a "jimmy is my lord and savior and benefactor" above your head the entire time. you showed how mr. beast and some of his orbit were their own type of ethical red flags AND that dogpack was trying to be both manipulative and threatening behind the scenes through your own exchanges, held very little regard to other creators when utilizing their platforms to spread his own narrative, and refused to hold himself to the same standards he claimed jimmy was guilty of --- which seemingly showed in his resumes to join the company.

while i don't want to believe his intentions were entirely from the perspective of a disgruntled employee, i've believed that his presentation of "facts" didn't align with what was available and felt as manipulative as mamamax's videos - where what truth the story held, was lost beneath too many layers of either tall tales or straight up tale-tales. the more time passed, the more it felt like he was using the story in order to gain social capital more than monetary ones and from what i've seen in the comment section, it's partially worked.

@@Bolt-Action_Rifle not sure what you mean?

Mr beast flew soggy to the USA. Soggy said he couldn’t afford it otherwise.

This was a sponsored video, sponsored by Mr. Beast….

@@somethingsomething404 sponsored? you do realize not every creator has the ability or readily available funds to get on a plane, but even without that, the questions asked and answered would have remained the same had they done it over video call. moreover, it's not like this was a big puff piece for mr. beast. he highlighted that he still has to answer for the squid games work, that he was still ridiculously negligent in his hiring process, and that he did commit an illegal lottery that - hate to tell you - is likely outside the statue of limitations (which from a quick search could be around 5 years from the act itself)

if this were some puff piece that said jimmy is innocent of all crimes, then you'd have a better argument to make, but this wasn't about that. this was about dawson not being open to questions soggy wanted to ask regarding his allegations, then threatening to somehow expose the creator himself if he persisted without any substantial evidence, and upending quite a few relationships and the peace of people he added to his videos without permission.

as he stated, believing completely in either side is foolish and myopic, but to foolishly write this off as some "mr beast sponsored video" is choosing to put on a blindfold and say to hell with any other perspective.


It's not like Mr.Beast's completely in the right, but DogPack404 isn't in the right either.


Dogpack404 is basically the MamaMax of MrBeast at this point. If he admits to fabricating evidence and getting advice from ChatGPT, I would not be the tiniest bit surprised.

And they both accused people of being pedos with no evidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if the NDA is written by ChatGPT

@@linstar9172<br>Jesus loves you. Repent and turn away from your sins today 🤗

@@linstar9172
Jesus loves you. Repent and turn away from your sins today 🤗

dogpack shouldve stuck to real evidence, no clue why he'd sacrifice his integrity like that ngl

Did you even watch the damn video?@@mauveskydiver3225

@@eII_gatoBecause he is a disgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any real evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false one. Not saying Mr Beast is a saint, but what I am saying is that Dogpack intentions were to destroy the Mr.beast brand under any mines necessary and he shouldn't a have a journalist YouTube channel anymore because he completely killed all credibility.

@@eII_gato Because he is a dissgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any real evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false one. Not saying Mr-Beast is a saint, but what I am saying is that Dogpack intentions were to destroy the Mr-beast brand under any mines necessary and he shouldn't a have a journalist YouTube channel anymore because he completely killed all credibility.

@eII_gato  Because he is a disgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false ones. Not saying Mr. Beast is a Saint, but what I am saying is Dogpack's intentions were to destroy the Mr. Beast brand under any means necessary and he shouldn't have a JOURNALIST YouTube channel after this anymore because he killed all credibility.

@@eII_gatoBecause he is a disgruntled employee and the people he attacked were part of his firing. He also, barely had any evidence, 1 and 2 half points of evidence vs 33 false ones. Not saying Mr. Beast is a Saint, (1/2)

@eII_gato  but what I am saying is Dogpack's intentions were to destroy the Mr. Beast brand under any means necessary and he shouldn't have a JOURNALIST YouTube channel after this anymore because he killed all credibility. (2/2)

I don't know why my full comment got shadow-banned. But slitting it wasn't.

Imagine defending a guy who willingly defended kris tyson, a literal pedo.

Mr beast still hired Kris, despite knowing hes a pedo. He is still not a good person.

No AI models like this are advanced predictive text generators @@jadendafinger

This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
<br>Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.

This video is cherry-picked and manipulative. Dogpack is a bad journalist sure, but Mr. Beast is a terrible person. And this guy, Soggy, is also terrible.
Soggy is straight up is re-writing the narrative about Mr. Beast knowingly hiring a RSO (Delaware) which was confirmed by his son in law, Jake the Viking, months ago.

@shadowed69  The evidence Soggy provides is not cherry-picked that are all the points Dogpack made himself but you know who's points are Cherrypicky Dogpack's. Jimmy's mom was the manager for Jimmy at the time when he was a small YouTuber, Delaware was named Delaware because of his work-uniform having the name Delaware on it. He only wore a mask for one video for the other, you can see his face. Also, why should Jimmy's mom hire a registered Sex offender on purpose? When it makes more sense that she didn't know. Why does Dogpack not mention all this info? Because then it would look like Jimmy didn't know about it. Jake the Viking is not a creditable source because he lied multiple times about the topic too and is a known clout chaser in general, not only to Mr. Beast.

Again, you can hate on Jimmy for crypto scamming not doing a background check on delaware and for the Chris Tyson situation that's fair, but there is no evidence that he knowingly hired Delaware the only testaments are from people that have a track record for bending the truth.


this video puts the "slop" video you made in context. I can imagine how frustrating it must have been to see every single commentary youtuber get facts wrong while youre finding things that are just misinformation.<br>due dilligence really is important regardless of what platform you use to inform people.

this video puts the "slop" video you made in context. I can imagine how frustrating it must have been to see every single commentary youtuber get facts wrong while youre finding things that are just misinformation.
due dilligence really is important regardless of what platform you use to inform people.

I understand that it was more of a rant video, but I kind of agreed with everything that he said. What made it more frustrating was when some of the slop channels fought back by saying that they are just youtubers, that they don't have to be held to high standards of research. Sickens me.

Maybe then he should’ve made this video in the firsts place, instead of the “slop” one? Never thought of that, huh?

@@ziodyne7774
no i never have any coherent thoughts ever,
thats why you're here.

thank you so much

dude he is mostly arguing semantics here.  Claim "Mrbeast hired a RSO and hid is identity"  Soggy "Mrbeast actually didnt INTENTIONALLY hire an RSO and you can see 1 video from 25 years ago where he wasnt wearing a mask so there is more proof he wasnt hiding his identity bc why would he have him without a mask in one video."

Claim "Mrbeast tortured jake for a video"  Soggy:  Jake said one of the employees said it was a war crime but in fact he was joking when he said that and Jake said he WASNT joking but then later he slipped up and said he was joking when he used the words war crime. HA HA Gotcha!. "

It is purposely and completely missing the point of the claims.

The fact that people are falling for these semantic arguments is baffling.  I lost all hope in humanity.

@@user-kf4gt7bo2k i dont agree with all the   claims he made in the video, but the point is that dogpacks arguments mostly fall flat. like we all know mrbeast has done horrible shit.
soggy accusing dogpack of reverse searching what he thought was CP after he (kind of) dismissed that kris thought the same thing when sharing the image is some of that stuff

no need to lose your faith in humanity im just glad theres another perspective

@ See what you want to see mate, some people will ignore everything and hang onto fringe arguments.

Wait is that the dboi himself? LARS? I like their vids man

you know a situation is weird when a fucking scp sl youtuber comments

Yea idk, the slop video was still kinda pretentious, there’s clearly a market for it, live and let live, who’s Soggy to say what’s ‘good’ content is.

this is still a slop channel. a soggy sloppy channel


Wait, does my math isn't mathing, or is this debunking of feastables not being bad is not that great too?
Hershey's has 1 serving for 43 grams and 220 calories, while feastables has 2 servings for 30 grams and 160 calories each.
If I turn 1 serving of feastables from 30 to 43 grams, it would make it to have 229 calories and 18 grams of sugar.
With single bar feastables it rises to 233 calories, and, funnily enough, 22 grams of sugar. Which means that they seem to have different formulas for different sizes)

It isn't that bad as it was claimed to, and there is still less sugar too. It just doesn't look good when you are talking about numbers, without doing math.

One of them had 35g servings. Go back and recheck.

This guy was flown to the US by Jimmy. That says it all.

Also most Americans don’t even understand fractions, they’re not doing math.


I honestly can't understand how anyone could defend the whole CP situation with DogPack and Rosanna, it genuinely makes me irrationally mad, like do these people even understand why owning and sharing that material is morally wrong and illegal in the first place?

yet the FBI is allowed to do it? you guys can take a chill pill and understand you have to have this stuff in your machine to research/reverse search it.

And then, get this, delete it after you're done ????

"Owning" cp entails intentionally having it stored for the sake of having it.

@@diegoaugusto1561 how to sound like a PDF File 101


The creator Coffeezilla did a brief preliminary piece on Mr. Beast’s potential shady financials in the crypto space.  Like SC, he does nuance and explains complicated schemes very well and is extremely careful with his words.  As a result of him reaching a wider audience with popular topics like Mr. Beast and Andrew Tate though, he had to post a “please don’t be a vigilante or do anything to anyone I talk about; that’s the government’s job” because people were actually going after some of the people he covered.  That’s who we’ve become.


This is so frustrating because you don't HAVE to make up reasons not to like Jimmy and his team. Like. At all.

How is faking MB signatures a “made up reason”

@@joshuahsimons9587 watch the vid dumb ahh

@@joshuahsimons9587 Because they weren't fake. The signatures were just not Mr. Beasts and they weren't pretending to be either.

@eugenekrabs141  why would Tyler sign 2 signatures MAKES NO SENSE

@@eugenekrabs141  he changes his thumbnail like every day that's really weird

@@joshuahsimons9587 Because why not? It clearly said on the website that its not all going to be signed by Jimmy himself

@@joshuahsimons9587 Yeah Ludwig also changes his thumbnails all the time. He says youtubers do it to see what thumbnails gather more views so they can use the things in those thumbnails more

@@eugenekrabs141 Youtube literally has a thumbnail tester feature, which will test 3 thumbnails you have made to see which one gets more clicks and then will keep the one that gets the most.

@@joshuahsimons9587everyone does that cause different thumbnails can have better performance in the algorithm

Jimmy i still a scammer and a fraud, so who cares

@@opheliamunroe1110 I think u just hated them from the start bro

@@joshuahsimons9587 Youtube has a built-in feature that automatically cycles through a list of creator-supplied thumbnails and gauges which one is the most effective. Every large youtuber does it

@@The_Unknown365-x3x I actually don't hate them at all. 🤷🏾♀ There are just legitimate reasons to criticize them without literally lying through your teeth about it. And some of his lies had a modicum of truth and because I was under the impression that he was a past employee in good standing with legitimate evidence I did give him the benefit of the doubt. I have my own personal reasons for not liking content or people like that without lying through my teeth and that's not like...hatred. And it's pretty weird to see my comment and just be like "Oh this fully grown adult just secretly hates some random dude on the Internet for no reason." Grow up my guy. You should be critical of the world around you in general. There are tons of valid reasons to side eye most content online. It's literally why I follow this channel. I couldn't have done this research or gotten these interviews myself at all. And other reputable creators ARE discussing things he has PROVABLY DONE and can't get more than a heavily lawyered up statement from his team over. Trying to convince kids that fewer calories means something is healthier? Like no. Go sit at the back of the class little one. You are clearly not paying attention.

@@opheliamunroe1110 didn’t order a yapachino

@@joshuahsimons9587 This is actually one Coffee Zilla is covering too but like ...be so frfr rn most of what that guy said was just nonsense he made up OR made sound a lot worse or more illegal than it actually was. I objectively still hold him accountable for the brand and his employees to a certain extent but due to his refusal to let ANYONE talk about those situations is pretty telling after he let these employees discuss other aspects of his lies. But most lies ARE bolstered with a small amount of truth. That's just how lies work. For instance Jimmy hiring a straight up predo may have occurred but there isn't actually any evidence that he WAS fully aware of it. He definitely should have been considering that comes back in a freaking background check and he should be running those for ANYONE on his team. So when he mentions those "forged" signatures he needs a lot more evidence that Jimmy himself said that they COULD NOT notarize paperwork for him. Something most companies do allow but gives him legal wiggle room when it comes to a lot of stuff in the back end. I'm not saying he was only chatting sh- but he's literally not a credible source and made up a LOT just to bolster false credibility and slander a company that is already in hot water for things they have evidence of doing. Idk like selling poor kids poison for profit.

@@joshuahsimons9587 Dude no. Notaries are a legitimate thing. And that's what it looks like was actually happening. It would 100% make sense for Jimmy to have at least a handful of legally notarized employees to help out with paperwork like that. And a notary can either stamp their own signature OR a higher ups as long as they are signing something in good faith and with consent. Meaning they either legitimately thought this was okay OR Jimmy himself has behaved similarly enough in the past for them to believe they were stamping something in good faith. There are absolutely some fishy things going on there but not the way old boy tried to make it out to be. I'm pretty sure he has like 250ish full time employees working on videos AND business related projects. He has to have notaries or he'd be personally signing paperwork all freaking day. And a notary can stamp something with equal power once they pass the course.

So maybe some people were stamping stuff they shouldn't but like... notaries aren't forging or faking anything. It's a perfectly legal and normal business practice that he's trying to sound shadier than they actually are. Which isn't to say they couldn't still be doing something shady but what he presented isn't inherently wrong or illegal. There would have to be way more investigation done than has been so far.

However, I have noticed that Jimmy and his team are lawyering up when it comes to some of these more business and scam related details. And not being forthcoming with details like that is a bit sus in my opinion.

No one is saying that the brand is perfect but like I said....you don't have to lie or inflate details to prove that. I suggest you check out Coffeezillas coverage as he doesn't have a personal bias against the entire brand.

@@The_Unknown365-x3x Like you deadass just watched nearly an hour and a half exposé but balk at a paragraph literally agreeing with the video. 💀

@@joshuahsimons9587 its not faking its forging. They also had complete permission, was transparent about it and its perfectly legal.

@SuleX00-ov5ip  deceiving people to sell more merch is wrong, u would be happy if u got a shirt signed MB but someone else signed it OK

@@joshuahsimons9587literally made up, they never said it was going to Jimmy Donaldson signing the shirts?? MrBeast is not a person, it’s a company

Okay, but the "war crime" defense for the Jake Weddle thing was ridiculous on Soggy's part. I'm autistic, it's harder for me to pick up sarcasm and hyperbole than most, and even I knew that what happened to Jake wasn't necessarily an actual war crime when he said it. That doesn't mean what MrBeast did to him was okay, though. The "he agreed to do it" defense wears a little thin here. If we can agree that that defense doesn't hold for something like Squid Game, where the game literally involves participants dying, (But they agreed, it's all fine) then we shouldn't extend that defense for something like compelling a man to run a marathon without training, something that CAN kill you

@eugenekrabs141 People were signing mrbeasts name who arent mr beast 💀💀💀

@FactsBurst.1  That's called a notary. It's perfectly legal my guy. He would likely have at least 2-3 people who are official notaries for him. Meaning they have the legal authority to do that. Like. Can y'all chill about stuff you don't know anything about?? Again. There are valid reasons to criticize him and his team without talking with your butt cheeks.

@@FactsBurst.1It’s still his signature, most celebrities do the same thing it’s not that serious, the world will keep spinning. No one gives a fuck

@@The_Unknown365-x3xbros ducking the argument 😂

Youre a billionaire bootlicker who wants to defend a guy who literally hired a pedo(kris tyson) and knew about it


I don't understand the war crime argument, maybe they meant a joke as in they weren't in war. Did they or did they not refuse to turn of the lights? That is the issue because it's torture, even if he was free to leave mr beast was holding money in front of him to patriciate in torture like a real life squid games. Basically "sure you're free to leave bro but you're losing money"

That isn't torture lol.<br>He was able to leave at anytime. If you aren't detainee or prison its not a war crime. He could leave whenever he wanted and no one would have stopped. Yes, there was money but its up to you to decide what to put up with for that money, not the other person

That isn't torture lol.
He was able to leave at anytime. If you aren't detainee or prison its not a war crime. He could leave whenever he wanted and no one would have stopped. Yes, there was money but its up to you to decide what to put up with for that money, not the other person

@@Testoider Yes it's not a war crime which I stated that could have been the joke but sleep deprivation  is literally torture the way he described it was like tv stage lights that stuff is really bright there's no way he could sleep in that he even talked about having insomnia after that happened which is a side effect of sleep deprivation.  Even mr beast thought it was messed up or rather bad pr because he reached out to the dude and gave him the full money. Apparently this dude was doing it to pay back his student loans which is so messed up in my opinion. Some people are desperate and will do anything for money

@B0b-k3r  its not torture. He chose to do i, thx

It’s basically exploiting people’s desperation for money for the sake of content. It’s not good

It's about pride and taking responsibility for your actions. Whether or not you accept money in exchange for something you don’t want to do, regardless of your financial need, the choice reflects your priorities. In that moment, you decided that your pride was less important than the money.

This means it is not torture, as you are making a conscious decision rather than being subjected to unbearable suffering.

It is also not extortion. Extortion involves coercion, threats, or manipulation to force someone into doing something against their will. In contrast, someone offering money for a task is simply presenting an option—you have the freedom to decline, which makes it fundamentally different from extortion.

He was getting 10k a day each day he was in there. He could leave at any point and get all of that accumulated money. Just 5 days is 50k. Yes, he would still get paid insane money if he quit just a few days in. Nobody was "holding money in front of him." He could leave at any point and still get paid.

@@Testoider I agree. The same way mrbeast has to take responsibility for exploiting a desperate person. It definitely says something about his priorities

@anna-flora999  MrBeast’s actions aren’t exploitation because participants have a clear choice—they’re presented with an opportunity, not a threat. Even if someone is financially desperate, they still have the agency to accept or decline without coercion. Responsibility lies with the individual who makes the decision, not with MrBeast, for offering the opportunity. Exploitation involves threats, manipulation, or removing choice, while an opportunity allows for voluntary participation without fear of harm.

Example of a Threat: If MrBeast said, “Participate in this challenge, or I’ll ruin your reputation and ensure you never get work again,” that would be coercion and exploitation.

Example of an Opportunity: Offering a challenge where participants can choose to compete for a cash prize, knowing they can walk away at any time without consequences, is an opportunity. The choice remains fully in their hands.

To say that Mr. Beast needs to take responsibility for his actions here is dishonest because the onus is the person who is being provided the chance or opportunity to participate in the challenge, not on Mr. Beast.

An easier way to understand this is that Jake is desperate financially  because of his own actions. Mr Beast is in noway responsible for Jake financial stability.

@@anna-flora999Jake waddle is just as vile

@@Testoider Look up "white torture". It's very much a thing. Just because Jimmy gave Jake Weddle the bare minimum for him to survive that doesn't mean that he also wasn't affected mentally. MrBeast convincing Weddle to do it by waving cash in front of him while Weddle needed it was just wrong.

@QiZFziG4  Weddle was not a prisoner, nor was he forced to do the challenge. Whether someone offers you cash regardless of however little or however much to do xyz, it is up to you to decide if it is worth taking the money in exchange for that challenge. If Weddle was literally being detained or an actual prisoner, then it would have been torture but since he decided to take the challenge and also especially because he was free to go at anytime, it was not tortue. Again, it is not Mr. Beasts responsibility to make Weddle financially stable. So "waving cash" in front of him does no mean Weddle was forced to do something regardless of Weddle's financial standing, as Weddle decided he would do that challenge.

Do you expect it to be EASY to win money or smth?

@@Testoider It doesn't matter if it was torture or not, it's still a shitty challenge.

@@MaakaSakuranbo It does matter if it is torture because that's what would make it illegal and a war crime. Whther it is a shitty challenge or not is the thing that is actually not important. This is same of how someone cannot like a certain sport, like mma for example. People might not like the violent spectacle and could call it "a shitty sport" but the same way ufc fighters decide to participate in a "shitty sport" jake  Weddle decided to take part of a "shitty challenge" .

@@Testoider It's still abusive, whether or not it's illegal. Yeah blabla, he could've left any time, blabla. Giving people money to put themselves through bad stuff targets people who really need or can't resist that money.<br>Same reason why lootboxes suck even though not illegal in most places. Preying on vulnerable people.

@@Testoider It's still abusive, whether or not it's illegal. Yeah blabla, he could've left any time, blabla. Giving people money to put themselves through bad stuff targets people who really need or can't resist that money.
Same reason why lootboxes suck even though not illegal in most places. Preying on vulnerable people.

@MaakaSakuranbo  pleae read my other posts which account for personal agency. It does not matter how desperate weddle was, he made the judgment call he would do the challenge. <br>"Blah blah blah" isn't an argument. Him being able to leave at any time is extremely relevant in the distinction of whether the challenge is legal or not. The point I am originally responding to is related to whether or not it is torture. It is not tortue. You are moving the goal post by trying to claim "well it may not be legal but it sure isnt heckin nice."  I am responding to you to simply to reiterate my point humor you.

@MaakaSakuranbo  pleae read my other posts which account for personal agency. It does not matter how desperate weddle was, he made the judgment call he would do the challenge.
"Blah blah blah" isn't an argument. Him being able to leave at any time is extremely relevant in the distinction of whether the challenge is legal or not. The point I am originally responding to is related to whether or not it is torture. It is not tortue. You are moving the goal post by trying to claim "well it may not be legal but it sure isnt heckin nice."  I am responding to you to simply to reiterate my point humor you.

@@Testoider I have no "goal posts to move", cause I don't care. I just found the point made in the video dumb, like it's an "oh see, it wasn't bad at all" thing. It's bad, just cause it isn't illegal doesn't make it not bad.

People can go and not buy lootboxes any time, doesn't make preying on vulnerable people ok.

@@tobiasbayer4866
I’m not arguing semantics. My point focuses on the clear distinction between voluntary participation and coercion. This isn’t about nitpicking definitions; it’s about addressing the main issue: the participant willingly chose to engage, taking responsibility for their decision. The difference between discomfort and coercion is substantive, not just a matter of wordplay.

It’s not torture if the participant willingly chose to take part, knowing the conditions. Discomfort doesn’t equal coercion, and calling it “messed up” is a subjective judgment that ignores the participant’s agency and responsibility. Dangling money in front of someone’s face doesn’t negate their freedom to walk away. The offer of money doesn’t force their hand—it simply presents an opportunity, not a demand. They were free to decline and face no consequences, which makes their participation a choice, not coercion or exploitation

They were free to decline and face no consequences. Maybe you would argue that Jake’s being financially desperate , pushed him to accept, but that doesn’t mean he was coerced. Desperation might influence his choice0, but Jake is the one who still made the choice.  It would be coercion if threats we're involved. No someone offering you money for conditions in a challenge is not a threat.  Financial hardship alone doesn’t turn an opportunity into exploitation.

He didn't ask the lights to turn off... Buddy if U live in America and u don't even free will or power in your word... That's a you prb

No one here has any brain. Jake mentions again and again in his video that people on the set really said to him that Mr Beast and the team has big expectations from him. So he had to perform. He was willing to eat shit because they were paying him so much. He can't just quit selfishly in 1-2 days just because he doesn't like it. He was feeling the pressure because an entire crew was present to shoot his footage and he didn't want to let anyone down. He was getting paid handsomely, he wanted to deliver. Too bad most of you here have no work ethic.
Also, even Mr Beast didn't expect the challenge to turn out this bad. That's why he offered the rest of the money to Jake after he went public.
The man suffered a lot, whether you want to believe it or not.

Also another nuance: he was fired from Mr Beast production yet still went back for this video. He obviously wanted to be on good terms with a potential future employer. If he would've quit in a few days, how would it have looked in from of the crew and Mr Beast? That he was a lazy SOB.

That's the problem with you folks, on one hand you're ready to call someone lazy and on the other hand if they persist you call them an idiot for having somewhat of a work ethic. Also, Jake was terrible with finances so it isn't a surprise that he really needed this money.

This comment is what a nuanced take looks like. Grow up kids!

yeah so fing leave? you dont loose the money you never earned


Should've named this video "I Didn't Work For DogPack404, He's A Fraud"


hypothetically if I wasn’t allowed to leave Soggy’s basement and he wakes me up every 37.5 minutes to feed on my fibres and nutrients, is that a war crime, therefore breaking the Geneva convention??

No, because soggy is a special exception

Nah, because it’s the Geneva suggestion.

No, only if you've declared war on each other.

It’s not a war crime….
It’s Canada during WW1

It’s not a war crime….
*It’s Canada during WW1*

@@M.Ritesh
Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.

Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

@@M.Ritesh
*Revelation 3:20*
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

HEY THERE 🤗 JESUS IS CALLING YOU TODAY. Turn away from your sins, confess, forsake them and live the victorious life. God bless.

Revelation 22:12-14
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Dont even start, we know the war crimes they commited. They basically started the modern form of it. @@DinoRicky