The craziest theory is that Sunset killed her human counterpart and took her place. And as dark as this theory is, the scariest part is that is actually solves a lot of plot holes as to why we've never seen her human version and where Sunset was sleeping all these years.
I have three theories. First one is that Sunset is from the human world but she was an orphan and she slipped into a portal leading to Equestria. Now you may be asking where is pony sunset than and that's were it gets interesting. I think that she was killed in a forest by Timberwolves and the sunset we know was spat out in that forest and later found by the ponies she calls family. I'd like to point out that in the anon a miss story she says she was never close to her family and I think her starting out as an orphan then being transported to another world with talking horses would definitely causes some sort of gap. Which led to her estrangement with her family and the ambition for magic and power.
The second one is a little more simple but equally possible. And that's that human Sunset is a runaway like Sunset. She could have left her home and essentially is travelling around the world and is staying under the radar because that's what runaways do. They stay hidden. The proof is comparing human Twilight to pony twilight. While the difference of what they are after is magic and science the fact remains that they study it feverishly. I think that maybe she ran away to prove something to those she ran away from much like Sunset did. What that something is remains up for debate. It could be art/painting, or it could be music based. Again no one really knows. The third is much like the first but instead it follows what we know so far with the sunset we do know. So she would be a pony. There we can now focus on human Sunset. In this theory not just human Sunset but her entire family is killed/lost in some sort of accident. While no real proof exists, I would like to point out that if either a human sunset does exist and shes as estranged from her family as pony Sunset than why haven't we seen anything about a missing sunset or have a family member like human sunsets parents or sibling run up to her or something similar in all this time. It's not like Sunset is hiding herself. Shes in a popular band, was in a movie, and was at a rock concert and sung with the idols on stage. That's hard to miss. Which is why it's possible for human sunset and her family to be dead. As well as if she did take over human Sunsets role as found daughter why would she be living in her cheap somewhat rundown apartment alone? Anyways those are my thoughts on human sunset. Sorry for the long read.
sunset was also a demon, so she could have totally done this for real and since mlp is a kids show, they can't just show it but there weren't any hints that she killed her counterpart or anything, it seems more like it was just forgotten that she should have a counterpart as well
i wish the mlp creator would do a Q+A, so we can ask that question
Oh god (the only problem with this was it was leaking that human sunset was to appear before the show ended with rumours of equestria girls continuing but this theory would be wild
I kinda want to add to this theory, I honestly think that the human sunset wasn’t attracted by magic And had no knowledge of it, so she would maybe be nice and popular in counterlot high, the pony sunset Would be a studying student, like twilight, but fails so she seeks another world, with all her studies She discovers the human world and decides to have a new life there, she finds out about the nice sunset and rage Interferes her which makes her mad, she wants power like she’s seen a fellow student, twilight become But she fails miserably and sees her opportunity in cantorlot, so I think she likes the popular ness Of her human self, and secretly ends her life pretending to take her place and becomes crueler and more hungry For power like she originally wanted in the pony world, it also fills another gap whole, we saw a picture of the main six Together when they where young before they fell apart and twilight put them back together, why didn’t sunset ruin there relationship Back then? Because it wasn’t the same sunset and she saw how powerful the main six where in the pony world she was jealous and didn’t want that to happen to a world that gives her opportunity this is my theory is you see any mistakes or things that would likely Be wrong please correct me I’m interested in the truth of this theory
This is a kid show i dont belive that and anyone who watched hot wheels acceleracers before saying well dint they do that to kadeem probaly people who never watched breaking point and ultimate race hes alive only now hes on the other team and is a cyborg robot so i dont belive it.
@Doctor RTD I like the good😇-hearted💛 Human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(👩🌠🦸♀️)[☀️🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫, and the good😇-hearted💛 Pony🦄 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(🦄🌌🕊)[☀️🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Pony🦄 World🌍 of pony🦄 Equestria Kingdom🏞🏰 better 😇
@Angilee Smyth I like the 2 Sunset🌅 Shimmers♀️(🦄🌠🕊/👩🌌🦸♀️)[☀️🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 better: Good😇-hearted💛 Human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(👩🌠🦸♀️)[☀️🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫, and good😇-hearted💛 Pony🦄 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(🦄🌌🕊)[☀️🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Pony🦄 World🌍 of pony🦄 Equestria Land🏞
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 you mean like killing him i mean it would bring a good revenge story mot gonna lie but its just dark then like the audience isnt happy back when that happend plus some people think banjee is dead not a silencer one even of him being a drone but a toy if acceleracers continued we saw a major and a other silencer that looked like banjee so hes a silencer to me if you ask but fair point tho.
@Bliksemridder "A good😇 revenge😈 story📘"? "Mot"? "Banjee"? Bah😠. I do my revenge😈 on Cartoon Villains😈 by rescuing☸ Cartoon Good😇 Guys from Forces☠ of Evil💀
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 mot sorry i ment to type not but i like i have a hole version if kadeem dint get captured mixed with others check on the video if taro won the pipe line realm also with revenge on evil forces what do you mean?
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 oh that way i get it now thx also whats your fav theory in this video? Mine is the cutie mark one but since any ones talking about the thing where a human sunset would apear for finaly seems canon but got scratched ok then but the cutie mark one makes sense.
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 your whole comments are cringe, the emojis, the weird building of sentences, you replying to everyone with those kind of comments.. eh are you trolling?
don't believe it. hasbro just wouldn't make a story that brutal. this is a kids show, and i don't think they would want to scare the kids by mentioning a human being murdered (it's a little too dark of a storyline)
Or…maybe Starlight Glimmer is Sunset Shimmer in equestria and Sunset Shimmer is Starlight Glimmer in the human world? I mean, in one episode, Sunset did say that she didn’t see a Starlight counterpart and did allow her to come along with her.
@zooballoons studios A kids show where Nightmare Moon explicitly tries to murder her sister, Rockhoof goes through an existential crisis and essentially tries to get Twilight to help him with essentially magical assisted suicide, Twilight has to kill a bunch of clones of her best friend, Trixie attempts suicide by manticore, Diamond Tiara tries to blackmail people for political gain, several apocalyptic alternate timelines including one where everyone is straight up just dead, the kirins are essentially systematically lobotomized, and Starlight Glimmer runs a cult. I don't put anything past MLP at this point.
@KR Mii Studios Don't be ridiculous 😠! Sunny☀️ Starscout♀️ is just one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇. She's the leader of the Mane 5. She's the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Hope🌟. I also like her as an alicorn 😇
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 it makes sense because besides twilight's if the school system says it wasn't really the beginning of the year how would you get into the school system with no money or anything they're already have to be somebody in the school system that looked like her.
@KREWPOTATO I like the good😇-heart💛 pony🦄/human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ better. She's one of the Force☠s of Goodness😇, and she's the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Forgiveness🥺😇
@DontTouchMyTea true, this just backs up this theory even more, since when the apple sibling's parents died, they couldn't even mention/show their death, since mlp is targeted at little kids. gives me the creeps, honestly.
@Dj Cuevas She's reluctant to hurt a puppy even at her worst. I doubt she's have it in her to kill a human. Maybe the original died of other causes and she took her place.
Even though it makes sense, it doesn't make sense that sunset would be able to do something like that... to Um, to herself. On the other hoof, we don't know where sunset lived before she went to Celestia's school, so she could be there, because maybe she was expelled or something. But... This makes me think. Maybe human Sunset now lives in the pony world, as a pony? Think about it. She goes to whatever place, finds magic portal, is in the pony world somewhere far away from where pony Sunset may be, or anypony who might know her, and never finds her way back, since obviously Sunset Scitwi and Rainbow dash could've just gone back through that cave, unless I'm missing something. I'm taking this from memory, but they had to go to Twilight's castle to get back to the human world though twilight's portal. Human/pony Sunset would need to go far away to get there too. I also just remembered that the extra portals may be from magic leaking into the human world... But yet again, maybe some existed before then?...
An interesting hypothesis which might actually be accurate.
It is specualted that killing your own counterpart is much more bearable than killing somebody else, because you could just slip into its shoes and no one would notice. I mean think about it, you have technically the same personality, physical features only differ due to the difference in nature of the dimensions you reside in, and you could just think of it as like commiting suicide without actually dying.
Evidence for this theory is that Sunset Shimmer entered the human world when she was a teenager, as Celestia explains that she was her pupil before Twilight enrolled into her academy, so this means Sunset is older than Twilight and probably close to a teen when she abandoned Equestria and fled to the human dimension. The times by which the two dimensions operate are not the same, remember that Celestia is over 1000 years old while her human counterpart is in her mid 40s, so Sunset was was probaby in her mid 20s while her human self was around 10-12 years old.
Plus, we know that Sunset entered the human world power hungry after her ambitions in Equestria were denied, and she was most likely a teenager in apperance when it happened, but in the school we see a portrait of Sunset Shimmer when she was very young with a very cheerful personality, without any sign of evil ambitions; almost as she was native to the world. While in the next portrait we see a Sunset Shimmer who appears to have a much more darker personality and who truly appears as her mentality is completely different from her previous self. Just like someone who came from a completely different life and simply slipped into her shoes.
Also, when Sunset discovered that there was a human Twilight, why did she never brought up the idea that there could be a human version of herself as well? Almost as if she knew there couldn't have been another.
@Ro Noble I know that. But she's not in an orphanage or the foster system. That implies Emancipated Minor. But at the age she was when she first went through the portal, someone had to have taken her in and taught her how to be human. When Twilight first came to the human world she slept in the school library on her first night.
She likely was helped by Flash quite a lot in the beginning and somehow forged enough identification to at least enter high school. Or maybe Human sunset disappeared for whatever reason, whether it be a regular disappearance or a magical one due to Sunset's arrival, then Sunset just used that Sunset's identity.
@Kelly Chan Possibly. She did admit to using Flash. But if there is no human world counterpart to her, then she may be an anomaly. If she was made an emancipated minor due to being registered as an orphan, than she likely got an identity through the foster system. She might have even started out in foster care. But with her villainous controlling attitude and scheming, she was probably made to live alone.
I just thought she stole some of Equestria's gems/riches, and the portal translated them into human world money when she arrived. Then she just rented an apartment.
@Felix24148 I'm really uncertain on that. However, I have not seen every last little bit of EQG, so if that flashback exists, it might very well be in one of the parts I missed.
@jack squatt I was mistaken. It wasn't a flashback, but rather a canon comic that showed what happened called The Fall of Sunset Shimmer. It basically boiled down to her being hungry for knowledge and power, being obsessed with wanting to be a princess after looking into the mirror and seeing a reflection of herself as an Alicorn, and Celestia deciding to stop teaching her because Sunset refused to back down. They had a fight, Celestia orders Sunset be made to leave Canterlot, Sunset overpowered the guards and ran through the mirror. Celestia is left with regret and focuses on teaching Twilight in a different way than she taught Sunset. Then the events of Equestria Girls happened roughly three years later.
@Luan Loud Don't worry, sweetheart. Pony🦄/human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(🦄🌠🕊)[☀️⭐ + ☀️🟡🔴, 8 ⭐⚪](🦱🔴🟡)[🦎🟡⚫](😇💑💛)🧡 is one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇. And always will be 😇. Promise keeping 💛. Have a good😇 day🌞 carefully, for the Heaven Sakes of Goodness😇 if it's the last thing I ever do
@•Lunar Witch• Not really. Twilight only spent a few days at a time in the human world. She didn't need an official identity there. Sunset Shimmer has been there for years. And therefor did need one.
She did live in the human world for a long time... She might have just lived on the streets honestly, or slept in the library like Twilight. Its hard to know. The show never answered this, and I really want answers.
I have a headcanon that human Sunset found a natural portal when she was younger, and has been living in Equestria ever since. The "she's too far away" and "she hasn't made a big splash" arguments apply here, plus the fact that they'd be looking in the wrong place if they ever did try to locate her.
Knowing about Spring Break Down, your head canon seems kinda real, there is a chance she found an another portal unknowingly and get in on it accident. That's why she isn't anywhere to found on the human world, and that she is somewhere in Equestria.
@Scara why you have a hot JP VA I know the Crystal🔮 Mirror(In pony🦄 Equestria Kingdom🏞🏰) is the magic🌠 portal🧿 to the Horse🐎 Statue🗿(At Canterlot High School🏫)
I Agree Matt TOB Because There Might Have Been A Original Sunset(H) And I Have A Theory: What If Moondancer's Is Original Sunset Oh Also Maybe Original Twilight Sparkle Went To The Same School Together Because I Saw A Crystal Prep Unform On Original Sunset
@spring stansbury 😠 That's silly. Good😇-hearted💛 Human👩 Sunset🌄 Shimmer♀️👩(☀️🟡🔴)🧡 is the Leader of the adventurous🧭 Equestria Girl👩 Heroes🦸♀️ of Canterlot High School🏫, in the Earth🌎-like Human👩 World🌎 of the 3D-cartoon "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Equestria Girls👩" Series. Human👩 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️👩(🌟💖⚪)💜 is a good😇-hearted💛 friend💑 of the adventurous🧭 Equestria Girl👩 Heroes🦸♀️ of Canterlot High School🏫, in Earth🌎-like Human👩 World🌎 of the 3D-cartoon "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Equestria Girls👩" Series.
Alicorn🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️🦄(🌟💖⚪)💜 is the Leader of the fun🥳-loving😍 Mane 6 Heroes🦸♀️ of Ponyville Village🏙, Equestria Land🏞, in the Earth🌎-like Pony🦄 World🌎, in the 3D-animated "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Friendship💑 Is Magic🌠" Series. Good😇-hearted💛, Unicorn🦄 Sunset🌄 Shimmer♀️🦄(☀️🟡🔴)🧡 is a helpful friend💑 of the fun🥳-loving😍 Mane 6 Heroes🦸♀️ of Ponyville Village🏙, Equestria Land🏞, in the Earth🌎-like Pony🦄 World🌎 of the 3D-animated "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Friendship💑 Is Magic🌠" Series
Personally, my own headcannon is more a 'When was Human Sunset?' question. We know Sunset was Princess Celestia's student before Twilight, but I don't think in the animated series we received a clear idea of how long before Twilight. Human Sunset might have been contemporaries with Shining Armor/Cadence, and has graduated from Crystal Prep. Or she may be even older. Principal Celestia vs. Princess Celestia tells us that time runs weird between the two realities, because one is thousands of years old, while the other is likely in her mid-to-late 40's (in my experience full Principals don't get that job until they're at least 40, but I could be wrong there). So Human Sunset might have been a student when Human Celestia was starting as a teacher, anywhere from fifteen to twenty-five years ago.
Exactly what I thought. Princess Celestia and Luna lived for over a thousand years. So 50 years in the past, there will be no principal celestia or luna in the human world. They would be dead, 50 years in the future. So for Sunset, there are two answers. Either her human counterpart isn't born yet or she died a long time ago.
There was actually a scrapped equestria girls special where they finally found out why magic has been following them around everywhere, where it’s coming from, and who the human sunset was. And in the end, Sunset had to make a huge important decision, (likely going back to equestria)
I have heard about that and despite me not exactly being a huge fan of Equestria Girls, that is something I would have watched. It is sad that Hasbro scrapped it, it would have given us answers to so many things we have questions about....and brought Sunset Shimmer home from what I understand.
I still like the funny Answer, that human Sunset is an adult who lives with her teen/pony self. Because the Adult is secretly part of an MIB style organization focused on tracking and detecting magical problems.
I just always love the idea od a specialist Government organization. Already aware of whats going on, and studying things while the protagonists got to work. They might even be Connected to the organization Bon Bon is part of. After all many dangerous beings, like the Sirens, had been sent to the human realm, I doubt the ponies are DUMB ENOUGH to just leave such dangerous creatures un watched.
Honestly, EG seems like so much wasted potential. I'd love if they ever did a more grown up version of EG where we explore Sunsets character more and her life before she became miss popular at the highschool.
There's an article on google that says one of the producer already made an hour long special to be the finale. It is about sunset's human counterpart and what really happened to her. This special was suppose to end the season and begin the season 3 but Hasbro has another thoughts. So they just go with the Holiday unwrapped shorts leaving the whole special storyboard behind. I loved the Holidays unwrapped but i think the special would've ended the series better like how mlp:fim ended so well. They also said that they were suppose to make the season 3 of eg but decided to just drop it after thinking that mlp already ended and itll be better if they end the spinoff to. But hey what do we know, maybe eg will comeback because there are rumors that if pony life will end, they'll continue the season 3 of eg because hasbro has no plans of stopping the my little pony era
I came back to this channel after a few years bc I fell back into the mlp fandom, and it's nice to see that a couple people (including Sawtooth and Nowacking) have grown into themselves. It's cool, and always great to see trans and nb people living their best lives.
The fact that brohoof is still at the end gives me happy tingles 😂 I used to watch this channel back in middle school when it first started out and it's been super fun seeing how far the channel and Sawtooth have come :)
I like your theory about her being the connection between these worlds! Her cutie mark looks like a ying yang, and cutie marks always reflect who a pony is and what their role in the world is. She’s probably a connection between there and she was always meant to go to the human world, keeping the magic in balance and the reason why magic follows the mane 6 there. It’s a good theory!
I always wondered about that. Maybe human sunset was in a different city in another school. Human twilight was in Crystal prep, rival of Caterlot high school. So it makes sense Sunset might have been in a completly different school.
What if Human Sunset was driven to Equestria in the pursuit of Magic. Kinda like string theory I guess. Human Sunset could also be in another dimension similar to the Equestria we know.
This is a personal theory of mine, and based on what I already know it could be a big IF. But I was thinking once that it could be possible based on Newton’s law of conservation of energy and mass (bare in mind I have not actually researched this myself, what little I know comes from Peabody and Sherman.) I was wondering if perhaps after the Equestrian Sunset came to Earth and met the Earth Sunset, because the Equestrian Sunset is essentially trapped on earth now. Eventually one was either going to simply fade away (insert Thanos snap reference here.) or one would absorb the other and the dominant Sunset would become the only Sunset. Yes my mind can be a hell of a dark place sometimes. Honesty I scare myself now and again!
Maybe human Sunset was a grew up woman. I've heard the theory that Sunset maybe an earlier 30 because she entered the human portal when Twilight was still young so that made possibility that Sunset's age doesn't grew up so much in human world so we can see her as a teen
I don’t really think that Sunset has to have a counterpart, not just for the reason you gave in the beginning, but also because these worlds aren’t a perfect reflection of each other, there are tons of inconsistencies, such as pony Twilight liking flash, and Human Twilight liking Timber Spruce, so maybe Sunset never existed in the human world?
I agree with that there are inconsistencies but do not agree that human Sunset never existed; it wouldn't make sense for there to be a version of Sunset Shimmer as a pony and not one in the human world. As seen after Twilight (pony version) left, it was eventually revealed there was a human version of Twilight Sparkle.
There are a bunch of ponies that have never appeared in Equestria Girls and there's several human characters that have no pony counterpart in the main show. It's possible they all do have counterparts that we haven't seen, but we don't know for sure. Sunset is the most important character we've seen without a counterpart but she's not unique in that.
Actually I'm starting to think that MLP & MLP EG takes place in different multiverse you may exist in some universe but are you always gonna be good in those universe while in other universe you don't exist yet or you used to exist but you live in like a different timeline
This actually a pretty great point. My theory is that she isn't human in the EG world but another creature (like a bird or something) but than when sunset got there she learned to change her form but yours made a whole lot more sense
Also the fact, that technically Sunset is older then Twilight, bc she was Celestia`s former student before running away and Twilight taking her place. So when Twilight was a filly Sunset was at least a teen. But in human world they all are in one class. Though I have a theory that human version of Sunset could be in university or already working in another place or another city. She might even be from Canterlot high considering in pony world Sunset was Celestia`s student... But it leaves even more questions so Ill pass on this
After revising all the Equestria Girls movie, now i kinda think your idea can be true. First of all like you said ,the world aren't perfect reflection. Eg: Princess Celestia & Princess Luna shud be in Canterlot but the students & teacher in canterlot high are citizens of Ponyville, which reflect Celestia & Luna kinda lives in Ponyville. Secondly, in Equestria Girls, Princess Celestia told twilight not to upset the balance, but she didnt insist of bringing sunset back juz to not upset the balance, seems like sunset is a bridge of multiuniverse
One of the writers revealed there were supposed to be an hour long movie special at the end of season 2..in that movie.. They will show what really happened to the real sunset.. But sadly the movie was cancelled
my thoughts exactly. these two worlds operate based on what their world needs, and if the human world didnt need a sunset shimmer, it wouldnt have one. the same way it didnt need magic for a while, or it does need abacus cinch while equestria doesnt
I imagine that Sunset’s counterpart lives somewhere else, like, FAR away, just like Twilight
Sunset is a student in Canterlot and she hasn’t been seen in ponyville constantly, and she went to school, and then escaped into the Human world and stayed, so I’m pretty sure Sunset’s human self exists in like another town or country where they’ll never meet
I'm so happy to see this channel still active even after all these years of being out of the fandom! The more things change, the more things stay the same, huh? (I really like the idea that sunset wasn't a scholar, but I think she might have gone into sports instead- where you can prove beyond doubt that at your best, you ARE the best. Music is pretty semantic, and I'm not sure a base sunset would have much interest in it beyond a "ha look at this cool skill I have now bow before me" hobby.)
My theory is that Sunset (before she became good), told other Sunset to not get in her way. This would give her room to fit into the human world. Maybe the Sunset before was a bully, so Sunset had to take her place as a bully.
I just always believed the human Sunset was in another city not visited in the eqg universe. I haven't put too much thought into it, but I have had an idea running through my head for another story to write where she shows up and has several confusing run ins with the rest of the group.
I love how the whereabouts of human Sunset Shimmer has been the one topic people have been theorizing about since EQG first started, the possibilities are literally endless!!!
Maybe there bikers because rainbow is a wonder bolt and she uses a modercykle alot in the human world its possible that the wonder bolts in the human world is a modercykle trick preformers in the human world again just a theory also I am posting part 2 of my solving cutie marks I'm posting today at 7:30 pm
My headcanon is actually a build off from Sawtooths, what if the human sunset is only a musician as a cover. What if she's also secretly a ruthless gang boss. Also what if everyone in chs knew about the human one as a musician and thought the pony one was the same girl but just didn't say it thinking the one they knew was trying to have a normalish high school life, as a bully. But then came the rainbow attack and everything made sense, so they never compared her to the human again and it just never got brought back up. I mean it's not like it would be the first time a bombshell like that would go by unnoticed both in the show and real life. Sooo, that's my interpretation. What day think?
Of course it is, it was shown there was a human version of Twilight Sparkle long after pony Twilight left which only makes sense there would be a human Sunset Shimmer. One cannot simply exist in one universe and not exist in a different universe, multiverse theory.
Twilight Sparkle does have her Counterpart in the human world who wear's glasses but Sunset Shimmer doesn't have a counterpart in the human world and Starlight Glimmer doesn't have a counterpart ether. 🌃✨👓🪞🌅☹️🌠
honestly tho, imagine we get to see real Sunset later on and all along it was just a plot that we hadn't uncovered yet? what if she was there the whole time but for reasons hadn't shown up because the story hadn't centred around her but what if now she does become part of the story, then what would be her role? would she act anything like the pony Sunset? Would her backstory be anything like hers? Why had she been hiding in the low for so long? what are her secrets???
Well Sunset Shimmer got in trouble in Princess Celestia's class back in the pony world, she betrayed her because Twilight Sparkle just her test and become a Princess. Sunset will get her revenge on Twilight to steal her crown. 🌅☹️☀️😡🌌✨😄👑😈🐴
ive always thought that the sunset we have now is the human sunset who simply discovered the portal and adapted to the pony world quickly. maybe I missed something but do we see that much backstory for sunset other than "she was a student of Celestia"?
I’ve been wondering if there was another human Sunset or not! I can’t believe Sunset’s story is now a cliffhanger! And there was supposed to be a Sunset Shimmer special that covers the other Sunset.
Interesting theory, very cool. You litteraly should work with creators of the show and make the plot, because your point of view is so much better than a regular show bro /)
Idk man, they're already focusing on the G5 movie. Also, someone on Twitter replied to me that S3 was confirmed, even sent a photo that shows a list of things, which included EG S3.
Not sure if this is true or not, we can only hope that they'll finish the series after the G5 movie has released.
Imo it's very slim since would hasbro even want to do that, heck the animation studio that did eqg now has a new name so what would we do about that. So yeah the chances of eqg returning are very slim, I still hope there's a small chance it might have a comeback but I'm not gonna over think it since this technically isn't the first time hasbro has cancelled something.
I imagine the human Sunset might be in juvenile prison or be a homeless runaway because the pony one broke the laws and used the portal to escape. What to say her human counterpart might not be a small-time offended at the least.
I never got around to catching up on everything EG so there being a human Starswirl is new to me. But I always figured that there being another sunset out there made sense. Although the rise of the Rainboom's music career would eventually bring her out and the 2 would be forced to confront each other. The same for Starlight, she's out there, just out there out of reach. Also whether the human starlight would be reformed or not is a whole other issue. The Human starlight though might be already good since the primary reason our starlight was the bad person was because of her confrontation with Celestia, not for other reasons.
I actually have my own personal theory. Seeing what we know now, the main cast of characters that resemble the main six act exactly like how the originals do, except they act like how they did before Twilight moved to Ponyville. So in Equestria Girls universe it looks like the character development is actually lagging behind, as Twilight is still friendless in this universe and is not in the same school as the other mane six. This leads me to believe that this universes Sunset Shimmer did in fact exist, but she too ran away from home. Unlike our Sunset Shimmer, however, this worlds Sunset was actually a top student that excelled and was even put in college level programs. Because of the high pressure that she felt from her studies, her parents, and even trying to meet Principal Celestia’s expectations, it eventually led to Sunset breaking down and deciding to run away instead. Maybe keeping in line with the main Sunset’s story, maybe the original equestrian girls sunset had done some illegal drugs to keep up with the demands and lower her stress, but she became addicted to it. This would also add embarrassment and anxiety to how this worlds sunset felt. So when our Sunset entered this world, she would be on her own for a while, until the events unfolded for the EG sunset took place. When this worlds Sunset ran away, her parents went out looking for her, only to find our sunset in her place, and after having dealt with poverty and not knowing this world, our sunset hopped on the opportunity to fit in and took this worlds sunsets place.
This theory leads into 2 or 3 possible outcomes:
1. That this worlds sunset is now struggling in this world trying to prove herself in a new location, maybe nearby or far away (much like how our sunset did)
2. This worlds Sunset dies while being out on her own, and no one would be none the wiser for it.
3. This worlds sunset was taken in somewhere and is now getting the help she needs, only waiting for a chance to come back into the canon show.
The talk about ambition and seeing Sunset's alicorn ruler reflection in the comic made me wonder if Human Sunset is at a different private school than Canterlot High or Crystal Prep, and she's getting involved in politics somehow, like volunteering with local community groups and/or preferred political party, as age-appropriate steps to gaining political power.
My dad theorized that the other student of the principal from Crystal High was the Sunset Shimmer of the human world (because she mentioned having only 1 or 2 other strongly intelligent students that had left) which to me has been something I've stuck with
That's an interesting observation but if human Sunset was Cinch's student, she should have been shocked or reacted something like that when she saw Sunset at the friendship games
I Just thought, in the 3rd film on the EQG chronology, the Crystal preeps headmaster says "the good disapear without me noticing"(in other words) wich can be consideres Ana argument in Thais case (in my opinion)
Не смотря на то, что идея про судьбу Санцет мне больше симпатизирует, не могу не отметить, что теория с убийством логичнее. Думаю она убила свою альтернативную версию, а так как у Санцет никого не было, то и замены никто не заметил
Or science, you made a good point about Twilight and the stars for leading back on the other talents but I always wanted as replacing magic with science for them meaning human sunset would also excel at science
the first theory is actually the most plausible,not just cause, it's in keeping with the show's tone,but we're given pretty clear indicators that while she IS willing to use intimidation and fake evidence as well as "lol look at the new girl being dumb" screen shots,none of this puts her above the "mean bitch" level,and even at her worst she isn't willing to actually hurt puppy Spike.catch yes,vaguely threaten yes actually harm NO Honestly I don't think she even had that stupid "teen zombie army" plan before transforming sooo yeah if she isn't mean enough to hurt a puppy...let alone one she knows is helping her competition I think it's safe to say we can relegate Murder yo the realm of Fimfics. here's a more grounded idea...Her counterpart is older than she is when she steps through the mirror and that;s why they never meet. she's already past highschool and given she would be a genius ;ole the pony version she's probably literally a rocket scientist or some kind of scientist at the vary least,,,but that's kist my idea for if she had a counterpart in the first place since she is afew years older than Twilight Cannonically.
I think these so much potential for fanfictions of this entire thing. If anyone can find a fimfic with each chapter being a different way Sunset meets her human counterpart, is love to give it a read!
I heard that there was a scrapped Equestria Girls finale after Sunset’s Backstage Pass that had the Human Sunset. The premise was that her life was ruined because Pony Sunset had taken her identity. However, we never got to see it and Equestria Girls ended with a bad finale in Holidays Unwrapped.
That's interesting premise, but it doesn't make much sense. Ponies traveled through the mirror portal before and after her, but why she alone accidentally magically remotely caused human Sunset's disappearance?.. Unless she DIDN'T travel though portal, but via own magic?
I guess we'll never really know, because Hasbro & DHX never chose to tie up this loose end and settle the matter. It's also never established that because they're all high school students, they should all still be living with their parent families; not living independently like college students. So...why do we never see Human Sunset's parents, who might reveal their Sunset somehow died in a tragic accident (bus crash, plane or train crash, cruise ship sinking, etc) and who would therefore mistake Equestria Sunset for their own deceased daughter? OR, if the 2 Sunsets DID meet, what kind of revenge battle royale would ensue for the old one to get her life back, or find a new purpose?? (*Groan*) Even I wouldn't want to be the Hasbro staff writer forced to explain that one.
@Hi I’m Luna did you literally not hear what the video said- it means LITERALLY taken from them. Human! SS DID get her life taken from her. Taken also means stealing. Just a heads up.
It seems how Princess Celestia abanded Sunset Shimmer and didn't complete her test but now she's going to steal Twilight Sparkle's crown at the Crystal Empire. ☀️😡🌅☹️😈🌌✨👑🔮🏰
From what I could tell, Sunset shimmer probably won't meet her human counter part until she fully learns the power of friendship, unlocking her full potential. She'll meet her human counter part as a recall to who she once was and instead of resorting to anything extreme, I can see Sunset showing compassion for her human counter part inspiring the counter part to want to make the change and to learn from Sunset's greatest teacher, Twilight sparkle in the pony world and remaining there to discover her full potential in the magic that is friendship. Aaaaaand, scene.
I have a personal theory, I don't know if it helps to solve this but here it goes, both in the second movie and in the legend of everfree we see how there are 7 elements, in the case of rainbow rocks we see how the red from sunset complements the rainbow, so I have my theory that each world requires its 7 element, represented in the human world with sunset and in the pony with Starlight
now saw will admit you brought up good points but there is one theory so far no one has touched on paradox say if she came in contact with the human sunset but once they come into physical contact one would absorb the others but the dominate personality is what shows like twilight the hunman twi was shy quiet very timid while pony twi was more outgoing
I really like the idea about her fate being between the worlds, but I also I am keen on the idea that may be what a loud Sunset to use the mirror in the first place was the accidental passing of her reflection counterpart. Once she had used the mirror enabled by this passing of her counterpart, it would’ve been possible for Twilight. This theory basically puts sunset as a type of living key to the door between worlds, but you can’t try to open the lock from both sides at the same time. Which is why I suspect the other one had to pass away first. Maybe as things hit a crescendo and Sunsets life as celestia’s as student, there were some kind of other drastic event happening in the other world. An event the deprived that world of its Sunset. Allowing her to deprive her own world of a Sunset in turn.
“Any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic.” -Arthur C. Clarke. I think that humanity’s magic is our ability to make creative solutions to seemingly insurmountable problems. So perhaps, Sunset is basically a supervillain.
These therories about Sunset are really mysterious, but I've also got a question. "Where is the human Starlight?" Would she also control the people like the pony Starlight, and how would she be able to do so? Think about, if there might be another Sunse who we don't know of. Shouldn't there also be a human Starlight who is just how her pony part was? Controling over the humans and maybe wanting ONE society with her as the leader. And if there is a Starlight is she also in a villlage controlling over the humans and "brainwashing" them that a society with special talents is bad. What do you think?
I actually have an idea of my own. What if like pony sunset, she wanted either musical ability or scientific knowledge, and, Celestia or one of the caretakers denied this. She was so problematic that they may have threatened expulsion.
(Example she was moving too fast for her class an needed to wait for everyone to catch up but kept interrupting class and causing trouble)
This was the deciding factor for her so, she ran away. Due to magic, or lack therefore of, instead of going to the pony world, she runs away to another country (possibly illegally)
She does this without telling anyone, so she is declared missing. When pony sunset crosses over they declared her found, so she took the life of original sunset.
Actually, I believe there are 2. In the first film we see sunset shimmer, her unicorn magic is teal. The next time we see her,it’s red. This makes me believe that at some point the 2 Sunsets swapped and therefore meaning their magic is different colours because they are not the same person.
As soon as Sawtooth mentioned a lust for power, a need to fell superior, and a want to feel important I thought of politics. Who knows she could be off somewhere purging a senator ship or something.
Honestly your right about Sunset never engaging in physical contact with anyone (unless you count almost hurting a portal😭) Which i don’t cuz she thought that was the only way to get everything she wanted so she probably didn’t resort to hurting her counterpart especially cuz it would’ve taken time to find her counterpart which would have distracted her from becoming the most powerful being of the school so i think your theory honestly is pretty good
I have a few head canons sunset met here counterpart, but Celestia's warning was something actually legitimate and not a bs excuse to not have multiple versions running around. and the two met initially they were friends living together but sunset's presence upset the balance and they either merged into a single new being, or the universe final destinationed their asses the one with the least will power the human sunset. didn't survive hc 2: they met they both exist but human sunset adopted her as a sister. but ironically the mirror had made the pony sunset into a teen to compensate for there being two people who were the same and that is why we don't see her, sunset was the equivalent age of a college student so she's currently at college. sunset met but their meeting freaked human sunset and she ran infront of a bus accidently killing her. hc three hinges on the possibility that sunset was celestia's daughter, birth during hot love making with marvel's thor(dc cinematic universe) the two gods got it on like donkey kong and sunset was created. and since there are no dimension hopping asgardians in the pony human world that celestia never had kids.
this isn't one prethought up but what if it ended up let jet li's the one or highlander and the two sunsets had to off the other one to survive.
Can we get a backstory lore theory for where Mistmane is from? They totally gloss over it, and I just HAVE to know!!! Where are her people? Are they all gone? Or just far away?
Yeah, i dont really see what her cutie mark is supposed to mean. i mean it is a sun, which celestia has aswell but the human world and pony world theory seemes kinda logical 😂
So I'm just going to throw this out there, 'cause why not. For a while, I had a theory that not only was Sunset a time traveler from Equestria's future, but that she was also the daughter of Starlight Glimmer and Sunburst. I went back and forth in my head about the questions that would follow with that: Why would she travel to the past? Did she know her parents? What led her to being Celestia's student?
Well, she could've been the product of an alternate timeline, where Starlight and Sunburst happen to have a kid. But it also could've been a timeline where Chrysalis was still around and trying to go after Starlight and her family. So in a desperate attempt to protect their daughter, they sent her (as a baby) to the past using magic. From there, she was brought up as an orphan, discovered by Celestia, became her student, and you know the rest.
Not only could that answer why there's no human Sunset, but also why she was so willing to go to the human world in the first place. She didn't leave much behind in Equestria, and she could have hoped to know where she came from and who she is.
At one point, a long time ago, I started to write an MLP/Star Wars Rebels fanfic that had the original Sunset Shimmer kidnapped as a child and raised by Mandelorians, under the name of Sabine Ren. At least, Sabine's original hair and skin color seemed to match up pretty well. Sadly, that fic was in my laptop when its OS decided that the latest update was too much to handle, and the only repair was to completely wipe the drive. Also, I fell out of MLP around Season 6 due to a show wall. Too bad, too. I think Darth Sombra would have made a solid villain.
another theory I have is that Sunset's counterpart was cinch's student. In the song "Unleash the Magic" She mentions having 1 or maybe 2 smart students, and looking back and seeing that a few counterparts like starswirl and twilight are scientists in the human world (human twilight was also in crystal prep, where she studied science and tech mostly. possibly where starswirl studied too, so it would make sense) since there used to be no magic to study, maybe Sunset's counterpart was BECOMING a scientist (in the process of studying) Then the pony world sunset took her identity through some sort of system (Foster care or orphanage?) and put her under the radar by possibly making everyone believe she was the human sunset, never to be seen again.
My sister always wanted the Sunset from the human world to move to Equestria. Like, there was some sort of imbalance with 2 Sunsets in the same world, and the 7 would have to find her and introduce her to the other world, and she would eventually want to stay in Equestria.
Random theory: Human Sunset came to the pony world when Pony Sunset came to the Human world. She could have gotten lost, or started exploring Equestria, and not know how to get back, and she could be living as a pony somewhere on the borders of Equestria, or even outside Equestria.
Meanwhile human sunset in Equestria living secluded on a farm countrside and enjoying simple life cause she wanted to get out of the stressful busy city of her human world absolutely oblivious about her counterpart wrecking havoc in heir world and afterwards saving it multiple times
But if the human sunset and pony sunset changed places then twilight and the others would have known.. because twilight n the others also visited out of equestria like griffin stone or the mount aris..
that doesn’t exactly make sense. remember in the first movie when Equestria Twilight went through the portal back home? when human Pinkie tried to follow her, she wasn’t allowed to go through. she just hit straight rock, because she isn’t from that world. I feel like the same rule would apply to, and if there is the human Sunset Shrimmer.
I was talking with friends a month or so back about a thery that sunset was ment to be in the human relm from the beginning, and by that thinking I though maybe sunsets pony counterpart is supposed to be starlight (part of why I kinda like it is that is can be used as a trans metaphor but there really isn't proof for this) but considering how their lives are similar but not exact like all the rest of the counter parts I think there is room for this theory.
but alternatively there could just not be a counterpart for her, alot of crystal prep and some from canterlot high don't have a counterpart.
I think what really happened to Sunset's human version was that maybe she knew she had to get rid of the human version when she first came so she killed her??? Wouldn't it be possible? And no one ever suspected anything, since Sunset's pony-self was still there. This unlocks a world of possibilities!
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Allen Holloway2021-08-27 19:51:26 (edited 2021-08-27 19:51:38 )
The first thing I thought when I saw Sunset's cutie mark was "Yin/Yang?" And then nothing came of it.
I like your "she IS the connection" theory the best.
I think you were right on with the failed musician part about Sunset but if you're thinking like that you need a export for it. Think of it like human Sunset was an music artist that was trying to make her goal reality but whenever she asked different producers they don't accept her at all. What I'm thinking is that from her failure of music and no producers wanting to produce her music she runs away to a far place so she can play her music to herself and even keeping her identity hidden from everyone else such as wearing a hoodie and a mask to cover her face whenever she is out in public, but like I said this is just a theory on her musical talent.
In another video , waves says that sunset is older than twilight and the others so she might still be in college or a university. Maybe pursuing the goal of being a musician as sawtooth said by trying to learn more about it just like her pony counterpart was attending a school to learn more about magic.
Dear Sawtooth waves, there is one mystery that i wanted to know for a long time. How Sci Twi get her wings? Like how and why did she earn them? She has wings in the human world when she ponies up but when she goes to the human world she is not an alicorn. To me, being an alicorn in the pony world is a very big deal as it is usually destined for Rulership or royalty. Hopefully you can make a wonderful theory and tell me the answer cus sometimes i cant sleep not knowing. From: One of your fans:)
Saw tooth needs to make more theoriesss I lovee them💞 there just so good could you do about mlp new gen I'd love to hear your fanstastic thoughts on why magic has disappeared and Pegasus lost their feathers and stuff maybe someone pulled a mega cozy glow 🤭
If she did have a human counterpart she would have been very confused when the one we know became famous by both being in a movie and being part of a famous band. So why didn't she seek the one we know out after all that stardom.
My theory: The sunset we all know is actually the human counterpart and she knew about the other world before the rest of the human counterparts. The pony counterpart is somewhere deep in equastria
There's also a strong chance that she was alive but died bwfore all this. From cancer to a car accident, we have no idea. For all we know, she could have been a victim of human trafficking and lives on a while other continent. There's so much going on in our basic world that so many things could have killed her off or kept her away from everything before now
Actually, it was confirmed that there was originally going to be a human Sunset, but they scrapped the idea or something, there's a Dr. Wolf video about that :)
Is no one gonna talk about how Starlight has two different magic auras? In the original Equestria girls, she has a sea foam green aura, but when she goes to the pony world in the cruise ship movie, she heads to the pony world through the quicksand portal and uses a red aura. May just be inconsistency, but something to think about
Sunset originally lives in Canterlot or somewhere else. She just used the mirror to travel in the human world in order to escape with the crown. She has been there before since she wasn't surprised when the crown went through the mirror. There's only one sunset
I had a pet theory for awhile that, like EqSunset, HuSunset kind of ran away from home. But without knowledge of magic, she stole a boat, got caught in a storm, and has been Professor-ing it up on some uncharted island somewhere.
I like the idea of Sunset being the Avatar bringing the spirit... Whoops, wrong universe. The point is I like the idea of her not even having a counterpart
I have a theory that the human sunset found a natural portal, and went to live on as a pony from a young age and pony sunset went on to live as a human (which weirdly enough also ties in with her cutie mark like, in a "they switched worlds" kinda way)
The idea that Sunset stole her counterpart's life was disproven when we got to see where she lives in the music video. No parents. She's squatting in an abandoned commercial space that she's fixed up to be livable. And Celestia's high school is weirdly accommodating to mysterious teenagers who show up out of nowhere with no educational records, almost as if they know they're sitting on an interdimensional portal and are prepared to cover for the occasional immigrant.
Sunset has living parents, she just hates them. I speculate that they are part of the Canterlot aristocracy and their snobbery and demands that she be successful and perfect are what drove her away and meant that losing her apprenticeship means that instead of returning to them she instead ran as far away from them as she possibly could. Which could explain why we don't see Sunset's counterpart. Like pony Sunset, after she failed at something she ran. She ran so far away. She had to get away. She's not in Equestria though. Given her magic talent and pride and ambition she would have ended up as one of the villains that the Mane 6 have to deal with. But she will be as far as she can possibly get from where she was born. I like to imagine her as the mysterious foreign student in some Japanese cartoon we've never heard of.
Here’s what I’ve always thought: sunset never actually belonged in equestria, she was always meant to be in the human world, but being born in Equestria, it made that difficult, when she rebelled against Celestia and went to the human world, she found where she was meant to be, and found where she was supposed to call her home, it might sound like a stretch, but that’s what I think.
I'd like to think that Sunset scared the other Sunset off, and she went to homeschooling until she graduated, and the moved away as soon as she could because she was still afraid of Sunset finding her, and wasn't aware of how Sunset was nice and reformed now. I'd also like to think she reinvented herself so no one would confuse her for Sunet. Maybe some hairdye and a new fashion sense. My headcanon new name for her that she chose is Sunshine Rise. Or Sunshine Days, inspired by the G3 pony Sunny Daze
I cant wait to see what Sawtooth does with the new gen of mlp but there are still so many possible things and questions we still have in gen 4 will those be answered in gen 5? I highly doubt it though
My Theory on human Sun Shim was always that maybe she was in Juvi. Think about it. When we first meet sunset, she’s evil. What would the human counterpart be? A criminal. I at least always thought that would make a pretty cool plot line.
My theory is that Sunset came to the human world and was homeless for a few years until she turned 15/16 (when she was able to be rented to legally). But about the facts — in order to get into school those few years, she would’ve had to either be adopted or make fake legal documents. We know she lives alone, and has never mentioned adoptive system etc, so that’s why I assume she was homeless (living in an abandoned building or something) and she definitely had to make fake legal documents for fake parents/etc. That’s the only way I could see around it, it’s not really related to this video, but I do believe personally in the "link" theory!
She wasn’t banished to the human world, she ran away to the human world. If you look at her reaction when her memory was wiped away in one of the shorts, Sunset panics at the site of her human form and begs for Celestia.
@Terminator 156 but the creators initially said they’d talk about where human sunset shimmer is in a scrapped equestria girls finale so she definitely does exist
There was a video of yours that didn't even have access to the comments... I will comment that I prefer your hinge theory because of Sunset's complex character. She's literally one of a kind. That doesn't change her friendship with both Twilight's, (and I'm sorry, even if she is the hinge between the two worlds, I still ship her and human Twilight, because of their chemistry)
Two theories I have is that a sunset in the human world went to crystal prep like twilight did, but got expelled for going to extremes in pursuit of her academic goals, or something similar like pony sunset that made her power hungry and get kicked to somewhere else. Maybe she even had to move away?
Second one is that when human sunset was real little she wandered through the portal somehow, or a different one(?) And was deemed missing. She grew up in Equestria possibly at an orphanage or something and led a separate and different life from our sunset, and when our sunset went to the human world she was deemed a found missing child, so it solves where she's been living this whole time.
They both have horrible plot holes but then again the movies are kinda living contradictions in a way, they're a huge mess plot-wise.
I have no idea! This question has been pondering my mind since the equestrian games movie came out! It’s all so confusing and well if sunset traveled to the human world when she was young then why would the human one not have? The next problem would be sunset should have been living in canterlot and maybe she would’ve been a self-centered unicorn like Trixie? Gah there’s to many unanswered questions! I like your “Sunset in the link” idea best
Theory: Human Sunset probably wanted to try getting smarter in school getting higher grades, but when she started to fail more and more, she raged and just quit, running off to celestia knows where. She'd probably find an alternate portal to equestria and head there and live in the shadows throughout the rest of her days, never being seen from or heard from again, enclosed in her own anger and self-pity in a corner of the world no one would ever find her.
Ok here is a kind of spooky theory: Did you notice that Sunset Shimmer's hair color slightly changed between Rainbow Rocks and the Friendship-Games? It went from a strong yellow to a paler shade of yellow. At first I thought that it was made intentionally as a kind of symbolism: Sunsets personality has gotten a loooot softer over time. But here starts my theory: What if somehow the human Sunset replaced pony sunset between the second and third movie. I know it maybe seems far-fetched, but that would explain her haircolor and the fact why she was so careless and thought that DELIBERATELY inviting her human friends to ponyville was a good idea in one of the movies (I can't remember which one sorry >_<)
imagine the regular sunset we know wasnt actually born in equestria and was actually born in the human world who at a young age traveled to equestria for a while but then was sent back by celestia oh em gee
I like how alternative sunsets ambitions don't really matter if the reason she's on the down low is because she failed at something then of course her pride would keep her going until she burnt out.
I’m just thinking, could it be that because she would go to the human world so often, her human counterpart just faded away along with anyone’s memories of her?
honestly when I was young I thought the true human sunset was in prison somewhere in the human world, given the pony sunset's original destructive and self-serving nature. I swear Im not crazy LOL
Could you please do a video about the necklaces the human six wear specifically how those stones have magic? I love your videos this one is very well done . please consider my request
@Terminator 156 so the Human Sunset does exist, but we don't know where is she lives or where she could be. Or (a crazy theroty) how about she's not even been born yet
We know that Sunset is Celestia’s ex-student. Interpret that into human knowledge. An expelled student. What if Sunset is working a job somewhere in the show? Like as a waitress?
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mohammed ismail2021-11-17 14:33:53 (edited 2021-11-17 14:49:31 )
i feel like the human sunset studied the magic of singing in CHS and fell through the portal one of the 30 moons and fell into magic . I really wish it was Adagio i have this feeling they are connected...
I personally feel like human SS might've been killed but not by pony SS, possibly magic Pony SS got so distraught by her death that she began to rebel and hated magic to the point she was willing to use it as a weapon to show how dangerous it could be but took it too far
Fun theory, sunset is actually an orphan from the human world that somehow was sent into equestria. Therefore the "other" sunset could still be somewhere in equstria
By 'ambition' I don't think she wants power or to rush rewards. She's competitive. She NEEDS to actually be the best at what she's doing, rewards or no. It's not about the Parakeet!
@Sawtooth Waves What if we already have seen the human sunset shimmer? that's right I'm say the Sunset Shimmer that betrayed celestia is the human sunset shimmer.
there is three facts in the comic The fall of Sunset Shimmer.
1 She is an orphan when celestia found her. 2 She doesn't remember much. 3 she asked this: Where are my hands?
@Sawtooth Waves Sawtooth you won't believe it. Before you had uploaded this video on YouTube I saw a dream in which it was like Sunset ran in the room where the portal to the human world was (the mirror) And then entered it. Within a second she was in the human world and then she saw her human counterpart. They both shrieked and then Sunset covered the mouth of her human counterpart she spotted a place where nobody was going and took here there. She asked all sorts of questions which her human counterpart answered. After all her doubts were clear she gave an evil grin and said "I will take your place now" she kidnapped her and locked her in a nearby shop which was abandoned. She kept giving her food and water . After she got reformed she went to the place where she had locked her human counterpart and let her go and said " Go to another school and let us not cross paths" again and that was the last time she saw her human part. This was my dream you thought she killed her and saw she kidnapped her.
@Sawtooth Waves As a poetic theory, maybe Sunset Simmer doesn't have another version of her in the human world. And what about Starlight Glimmer, she too may not have one too in the human world as well. The names of these two are literally the complete opposite of elements, Sunset being the lasting sunlight, the harmony and guidance between both worlds, and Starlight, as in deep nightlight, the harmony and guidance of mainly the world of equestria and the harmony ambassador between the two worlds!! Just like the princess Celestia and Luna( they however do have human counterparts), but the only differences from these two is that Sunset, Starlight pair do not have human counterparts in the human world at all!!
@Sawtooth Waves After the Fall Formal, Twilight Sparkle and Spike return to the ponyverse and bring Sunset Shimmer to Princess Celestia. Princess Celsstia took Sunset's horn away and send her to jail but now Sunset Shimmer can't teleport and she's an Earth Pony. 🎊🎉🎈🌌✨🐲🌅👑☀️😡🦄☹️🐴🪞
There's something else you should know by now; the mirror which leads to both Equestria and our world? It'll leave one naked without an extra pair of clothes. Don't go through without a second pair, your's will rip if you have them on.
Here’s a theory. I don’t think the original versions just disappear as Princess Celestia makes it seem to the Mane 6 ( minus T.S. ). I think they’re still there. What Celestia meant was that if the originals, the ones we see in Ponyville, and their human versions see each-other, that something will happen. Presumably dark magic? Maybe.
true true absoloutely true! And yeah, we just actually never saw a human counterpart of sunset!Maybe they will show us her later in the show.It might even be that sunset HAS a human counterpart and they know eachother which they keep swapping around with the mane six.I just hope they actually reveal one cause that would make an exciting story!:)
Ok I just wanted to say this, a pony going to the human world and trying to use a phone would probably be like a 75 year old trying to use a modern phone. 😂
Well, when we see that Sci-Twi was originally at a different school in the same city and only met the rest of her world's mane 6 because of a long standing interschool rivalry, plus shenanigans around the newly emerging magic, it is more than possible that EQG world Sunset is simply also elsewhere in her world, whether she's a failure or not. If another world copy of any of us popped into existence anywhere but near where we lived, and didn't become famous, or infamous, enough to draw world wide attention to themselves would we even know, except by the rarest of chance meetings? Look at when someone becomes famous, say by being elected to high office, and the media finds a doppelganger. No one knew until one was elected president or something that the other existed. If Sunset becomes that famous her human world double may appear, if she doesn't reach that level of infamy, we may never know. Unless Hasbro, because toys, lol.
(Sorry for this being long it was just a lot of stuff to say) I once saw a fan art with I believe it was she-demon painted on Sunset's locker and her running away crying. This lead me to think human Sunset is avoiding people in Canterlot because no matter what kind of bullying it is there will always be people who think it's wrong and openly called out that person. I think happened was all of the hate that Pony Sunset gained was put on her human counterpart. I think this is likely because we see from the pictures of Sunset as Princess of the Fall Formal she looks so nice in the first picture even if it was an act why would pre-reform Sunset act nice if it didn't benefit her in someway. So if she was acting like her nice human counterpart imagine how her human counterpart felt all of a sudden all of your friends and the people you go to school with start calling you names and saying you're a horrible person and you have no way of knowing why. You'd want to leave and tell no one so they have no way of finding you.
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KR Mii Studios2022-07-17 15:33:49 (edited 2022-07-19 06:02:08 )
It's really unknown to weather Sunset Shimmer even has a human world Counterpart, it's probably to make Sunset more unique but it would be interesting to see. Also I don't really think Sunny was evil enough to Kill someone prior to the first EQG so therefore Human world Sunset is still alive.
I love this theory. I believe the sunset shimmer in human world could be regular girl with some pride, has musical talent of her own and attends a different school. What would happen if the two meet and sunset shimmer feels she's fulfilled her duty between the world's. Does she plan to go back to Equestria and let her human counterpart take over as new member to learn more about friendship. Since she has been with human counterparts for so long. Is it possible just like Twilight and good deeds done in human world She has means to be an Alicorn as and continue duty to protect both worlds from Equestria side? but visit human world from time to time help in battle against any villans?
What if Human Sunset went to the Pony Realm and want to stay there just like the Sunset we know? If she is then she probably lives somewhere that is neither Ponyville nor Canterlot, somewhere like Manhattan or other places in Equestria
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If sunset was forgetful and kept saying "what are you talking about, I never did that. Then I would say she never did anything and her human version did everything her friends thought she did which would explain a lot like why we haven't seen her before but she doesn't say that and isn't forgetful.
Or maybe it should be "when". I mean think about it, it isn't impossible for her human form to be in a different time. But it may be rare. As you said, yes her cutie mark may mean that. But as we all know everyone has a human counterpart. It can't be that sunset just doesn't have a counterpart. So she could possibly be in a different timeline.
There was actually a cancelled one-hour long special that focused on why magic has been following the Equestria Girls everywhere and what happened to the human Sunset. However, that special was changed to the Holidays Unwrapped shorts.
My theory is that the human sunset passed away due to a sickness or accident or maybe she travelled somewhere else and it was a perfect opportunity for this sunset to continue human sunset’s life, especially since in the mlpeg movie there were photos that had sunset as a kid when pony sunset left at a bit of an older age.
If I recall correctly, I think the writers did have plans to bring human world Sunset Shimmer into canon, but unfortunately Equestria Girls got the short end of the stick and was canceled before those ideas could see the light of day.
There must be 2 theories: 1. She is in the unique circle, I'm asking where is pony timberspruce; aria blaze; sonata dusk and human starlight, sunburst. Some of the characters only exist in one world. Those two worlds can't be a copy of each other, so there must be some unique figures. 2. Your picture has already show that, in s2, we noticed sunset has something different, that could be real human sunset. And that one also gains memories reader ability! Or maybe just because sunset reaches teen age. So i like theory 1
I have a head cannon that sunset shimmer forced herself into the human world for a long time, and this over time upset the balance of the worlds until the worlds decided to correct themselves and swallowed human sunset to equestria as a consequence of pony sunset staying in the human world for too long.
what if sunset from the human world did the same thing as sunset from equestria? travel to somewhere else? we never know if there's magic outside where the story is based on, maybe the sunset from the human work discovered magic somehow and travelled to another dimension just as sunset from equestria.
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Moon wolf Girl2022-04-11 11:30:41 (edited 2022-04-11 11:36:06 )
Look at twilight in the human world, loved by Celesta and ends up one of the most popular students in the school, my theory is is that it was the same for sunset, but She was over took by the love and attention she was getting from others, she eventually grew selfish and mean and started taking affection that she didn’t deserve. Look at the first movie and the pictures of sunset, I think the last one is OUR sunset but all the others are the human sunset. As to where she is I have a theory for that to, like sunset in Equestria, I think sunset left and tried to get power and attention somewhere else, like another school or something, so with the original sunset leaving a year prior, our sunset cloud learn about everyone and etc. 😀
I think that copy of sunset in human version without mane 6 would be too much of a threat. 2 sunsets would be threat to society, so directors decided to leave one Shimmer in space-time 😩
There has been talk about maybe a 2 part story of human counter Sunset Shimmer, but she turns out to be evil at first and nearly kills Sunset Shimmer. Then later on after the human turns good, she asks to go to Equestria and Sunset gets to graduate with her friends. Sunset DID NOT kill her human counterpart because this is too violent to comprehend and that is not what the show is about.
Imagine Sunset Shimmer cutie mark represents a moon inside a sun… I would rather have her in the royal problem than Starlight, but that’s just my opinion! Love the video👍✨
I would think there was one. Mainly because we’ve seen human counterparts for everyone else, but here’s what I’m thinking. I have 2 theories. The first one is pretty whacked out but what if at one point human Sunset Shimmer came to Equestria to live a life. She found a portal and went through it to find there was magic in this new world. She decided travel all throughout this new world and see what it was about, but at the same moment Pony Sunset went through the portal to the human world. It’s a bit of a messy theory but it would explain how no one has mentioned another Sunset and why we haven’t seen a human Sunset. The other theory makes a bit more sense. The other Sunset simply goes to another school. We don’t know exactly where Sunset is from but my thinking is she isn’t from Ponyville, Canterlot, or the Crystal Empire. It’s more likely she’s from a small town like Starlight was. So thinking that, the human Sunset might go to another school in a different town unaware of anything that’s going on at Canterlot High. I think since she didn’t have Magic to corrupt her, I would think she would be in a position of wanting to help people like a counselor or like Sawtooth said, a musician. Both theories are pretty out there, but it might give a little insight on what our human Sunny is up to!
Well we know that Sunset is from Equestria and she lived in Canterlot. After, she moved in the human world and that's her new place now, so if there's a human Sunset, maybe she did something similar ? Maybe she was in CHS a long time ago, but she moved far away ? Perhaps even in an another world (but I don't think so personally and mostly not in Equestrian world because the Mane 6 would've known about that, certainly).
Honestly, I think It starts with her parents No one has seen them yet or have been introduced, and it wouldn't be impossible for someone from the pony realm to fall in love with another in the human realm.
We'll call the parents Flick (Pony royal guard) and Daisy ( a young adult training to be a nurse). I'm gonna make the theory somewhat quick though- Flick is guarding a room (assigned by Celestia), of which he doesn't know the reason why, and then proceeds to sneak in to find out. He finds the mirror, falls in, then meets Daisy who was walking by. She offers to help him and he accepts. She checks him over and confirms he's ok- but the stories he tells about a pony world makes her worry. He leaves, letting her help him back, and promises to return, to which he enters the portal. She becomes baffled at the sight, then assumes she's going crazy. This thought is erased however as he returns the next day. They converse, and to her surprise, other people see him too. His short and brief moments in her life makes her happy- as her private and social life are not the best and she considered going away from it all. She tells this all to flick, to which he offers to bring her to his world. She accepts and follows him into his realm. She feels lighter there, and then begins to visit him instead. After a while, she chooses to stay in equesteria, and flick holds no obligations. no one was told about this continuous back and forth of the two, as she was welcomed into the community without even being known as a human. After a while, they have Sunset, who would have the bonds from the human world, and the pony world and therefore have no alt of herself as she would be the creation of both sides.
It wouldn't explain who took her in, but Daisy and Flick could have had some slip ups on where she use to live or have Flick rest as the two conversed about his home realm as the two decided not to let anyone else know about it.
now if I put a ton of details in- it'd be much longer lol.
Perhaps the human Sunset exists, but lives in another place or another city. Unfortunately, too few episodes were released on Equestria Girls.
I would like to see more EG seasons. Perhaps we would then have opened the story of human Sunset. I think generation 4 MLP and EG turned off too early. How many different stories we could see about our loved characters!
EG definitely could and should keep going, I just fear 1. They’ve lost too much momentum in coming up on, what, nearly two years without any movies or episodes? And 2. They’d feel forced into including G5 characters into the series now, which I’d not be a fan of at all.
I’ve always thought they could keep it going as “the college years” (ala Saved by the Bell, haha). But I doubt Hasbro cares enough to produce and market something not specifically directed at little girls, despite the cultural reach the series had.
Okay, so we know human Twilight wouldn't have ended up in Canterlot if magic wasn't brought into their world and pony Twilight was there before her, building a reputation. We also know Sunset was a student of Celestia before Twilight, to the point where Twilight didn't even know Sunset. I think it's plausible to think human Sunset is probably older than the main six, and/or could also just live nowhere near there. I don't think human Sunset could have gone to Canterlot, though, since Celestia would definitely notice if she had two of the same looking students with the same names. She could have also gone to Crystal Prep, like Twilight, and graduated before Twilight met her, but then wouldn't the principal or vice principal notice pony Sunset at the Friendship Games?
With all this information, I think either the first theory brought up in the video, which is that there is only a pony Sunset, is true or that the human Sunset simply doesn't live near the main six. The murder theory seems far-off, considering it's a children's show and I don't think Sunset could even pull it off with how little she probably knew about the human world at first. There's also a possibility that the other Sunset could just not exist since the creators of Equastria Girls didn't consider it or have any intention of introducing/hinting at her existence.
Ever since MLP:Equestria girls Movie came out I wondered where Sunset Shimmer was living and where could her human self be but I am pretty sure she didn't really kill her human self Hopefully we will see human Sunset Shimmer soon
Theory: since sunset was most likely the first pony to go to the human world Mabye the balence broke and caused the other sunset to stop existing and the only reason sci twi exists is because the balence is already broken.
Might as well rename this channel "The pony theorist" and call the day. Jokes aside, I think another possibility is that Human Sunset died, but not by the hands of pony Sunset, instead, she could've died by accident. Or, like for Twilight, she simply lives elsewhere, only much further away
i once read a fan-story where Human Sunset tried to become a Daring Doo/Indiana Jones style "archeologist-adventurer"... but died to a booty-trap in a tomb.
that was in "it's a screwed-up life", where the protagonist is a random fan who somehow got turned into Screwball.
I randomly think abaout this when the song release the magic was playing in my head on loop in 5am and the line "to find a student like you,i have one or maybe two,but the good ones disapear before i blink" make me think about sunset that sunset might have been in the same school as twilight before and then magically disapear,but then again when i think abaout it if sunset was in twilight school the teacher should have remember her but the fact that she isn't sure herself that she has a genius student once make me think that is not completly imposible for sunset to be in twilight school and the teacher just forgets about her ,and about twilight not knowing about sunset make me think like sunset was a senior or at least twilight has not come or entered the school before and when she does enter sunset had dissapeard a long time ago and so noone remembered her anymore,and human starlight might have been there as well since the teacher said she had one or maybe two,by watching in one of the episode when sunset and starlight get along very well make me think that human sunset and starlight might have been bestfriend and when sunset dissapeard starlight maybe start looking on why her friemd suddenly dissapeard and still trying to find out why till to this day
Maybe if the pony sunset found the way to the human world, the human sunset found the way to Equestria 🤷🏻♀️ or maybe she end up lost in the other not so pretty places we saw on the movie.
Sunset is the best writing we'll ever get out of eqg, she's shrouded with mystery, and that gives us multiple variables to what happened in her life or what happened before she showed up. I think human sunset would be like that, except maybe her goal is to get her identity back from pony sunset after the she demon incident, it must've spread somewhere
This is a kinda simple theory, but since the Equestria Sunset is not from around ponyville or since she doesn’t have anything to do with the maincharacters of the show… I think that the human Sunset doesn’t either if that makes sense. She is probably somewhere living her life having nothing to do with the main characters who live in both world in some way ‘near’ eachother.
I had a theory where what if the sunset that was introduced as a pony, was actually apart of the human world? And there’s a sunset in the pony world that we dont know abt? But there is many possibilities 😅
This is based on the fact that in the human world Celestia is an adult where as in the pony world she’s lived over 1000 years. This means that for a long time she only existed in the pony world.
Sunset was a amazing and hardworking student, so celestia showed her a secret thing for the school's staff, she wanted to use it but celestia told her she can't, she got greedy, when the SUN SET she went to the school with an all black outfit and took the thing, when they caught her they sent her to the death penalty and killed her, celestia was heartbroken but she couldn't stop the police since she's just the principal
If Hasbro didn't make Equestria Girls the way they did with these Shorts and Later Specials, I'm sure we would've gotten a Definitive Answer on where Human Sunset is.
Theory: Since she wanted power, then she either went into government or business, and I will only talk about the governmetn part, since business is to varied. And if we look at the main ways of getting government power, then they are:
Birth (Monarchy) Military Politics (Suport of the people) Oligarchy (Getting a possition in government)
She is not royal, and unless she became an African warlord, then these two are ruled out. If she was a public politician, then she is not very known, since people would notice that there was another Sunset, which is the one from the pony world. And if it is oligarchy, then she is either not very known, not very powerfull and thus not very known, or powerfull enough to keep herself a secret and then might even know about the otehr Sunset.
And if you think this sounds like a stretch, then remember what pony Sunset was willing to do.
Since so far, it seems like everyone still lives around the same people in both worlds, it seems like OG Sunset would be a Canterlot High as she was Celestia’s student. Maybe she left Canterlot High around the same time that pony Sunset left Equestria (maybe even went to ANOTHER dimension) and our Sunset just plugged herself into the hole she left. Or maybe it’s like how human Twilight was at Crystal Prep despite human twilight not living in or near the Crystal Empire and she’s just at another school
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I know this theory might not be true but i like to think it's possible: sunset shimmer was originally from the human world. (It would explain why there isn't another sunset, it's because we've already seen the human sunset.)
To properly figure this one out, we would first need to know the origins of PONY sunset and cross-reference that with the human world. Like with human twilight, it's probably most likely that human sunset is just somewhere else in the human world since human sunset didn't get the same opportunities pony sunset had to actually get to the human world and canterlot high. Maybe pony sunset shimmer isn't even from canterlot like starlight glimmer so the chances of her coming across her human version is very minimal. At least thats my take on it lol EDIT: after watching the video what I mean is pretty much what was said lol
I have an video idea: How did mane six (+ Starlight) solve everything in episode "Fame and misfortune", because episode ended with them just huging and angry crowd was still outside the castle? Maybe Twilight and Starlight time traveler to fix everything.
My theory: In her past life (I’m going of reincarnation), she was a powerful unicorn who studied in dangerous fields of magic. Because of that, she ran an underground operation of sorts, passing as a librarian. She studied for a long time and had a high ambition to become an alicorn along side Luna and Celestia. Eventually, she looked at Star Swirls studies for guidance and remembered how he sent the sirens to another realm. She went to find any remain of the realm, and she did. A mirror. She jumped in and eventually got used to living there. She became a very respected woman in her town and became a sort of minor goddess of sort for them, before dying a little before Sunset came through the portal.
We have to remember that Celestia banished Sunset Shimmer to that world as she said in the first movie, so I think Celestia holds the answer to the other Sunset Shimmer
I've got my idea: what if pony sunset is actually human sunset, and we should look for the original pony instead of original human sunset? I know it's crazy but still...
I think that since pony sunset ran away to the human world, human sunset ran away to Equestria and might be living in secret. Maybe she did go to canterlot high but met pony and they discussed swapping places. Sunset originaly from the human world might be travelling around Equestria!😊
I always thought that every alternative Sunset Shimmer was in a alternative world. Like pony Sunset went to the human would while human Sunset went to another alternative universe.
I’ve been binging MLP after years and watching some of your videos on the side, and I just want to say thank you for the years of entertainment you provided.
I imagine that considering in the pony world where ponies can be hundreds of years old, and how humans cant, that the sunset in the human world would have just peacefully lived a full life and died. Because clearly, sunset is supposed to be older yet her and twilight are the same age when transferred to the human world so there's clearly some aging stuff involved.,
I’ll admit that I’m honestly not a crazy fan of MLP. But after watching this video I have a question that I must ask. But does the show really have it’s own multiverse?
I talked to my sister about what you said and she thinks Sunset Shimmer in the human world doesn't necessarily look like our Sunset. Maybe it's someone else I've already seen. How about Addagio ? She could be Sunset from Equestria Girls. The same about the purple haired girl with blue streaks could be Starlight Glimmer in Equestria Girls. 🤔 I don't know what to say. It seems silly to me. 😅
Well... I have always thought that, if they are infinite alternate realities, not every person of the world would have a counterpart in those realities, or they wouldn't be able to meet because they were born in different times... If every choice of us makes those realities different, and if we take into account the decissions of rest of the world, there may be even a world where there's no internet, where there's not a certain item or a certain person in there. Let's not get too far: if your parents met by some sort of accident or coincidence, for example, if your dad spilled over something on your mom, what would have happened if he hasn't spilled anything on your mom, or if he spilled it over other person? Or if your mom came from the countryside and was exploring the city, what if she turned left, instead of right, and never encountered your dad? Exactly: You won't exist. And there may also be a chance that they met, but gave birth to a girl, instead of a boy, or viceversa... There are infinite possibilities of what other realities may look like. So, it wouldn't be strange if there wasn't born a human version of Sunset Shimmer, or she WAS alive, or she will be born. I mean, Celestia is there, and she's supposed to be WAY older than every pony in Equestria, along with Luna, so, maybe she's older or younger than the Equestria Girls... Or maybe she lives at the other side of the world.
My Theory: Remember in equestrian games, sunset shimmer unleashed the magic to get twilight out of the evil trance, but remember the glow outline of the wings and a horn she had, twilight had physical horns and but sunset didnt. Okay now think about sunny, the orange earth pony in new generation, she had the same glow outline that sunset had: maybe sunny belongs in the pony world and sunset belongs in the human world. I know sunny lives a thousand years after sunset but maybe that’s just magic fixing a wrong of forgetting the pony sunset. And yes, I also do know sunset was originally from the pony world but maybe her destiny was the human world and sunny’s Was the pony world?
Honestly my first theory was that sunset killed her human counterpart.
Or, what if the human sunset was having a horrible life and wanted to permanently get away from it all, so sunset granted her wish? And human sunset moved to Africa or something
Well, they were gonna make an hour-long winter special that would introduce us to Human Sunset and would lead to se. 3, but they just made the "Holidays Unwrapped" instead...
well I like to think there is three theories behind this question one she doesn't exist or two she's dead. or three she existed but in a different timeline.
i heard that theory about sunset killing her human counterpart, and the whole her human counterpart was a failed musicians might be true since if you look at sunset outfit, she does wear a rock type jacket and the fact she once
my only question is does how long was sunset ben in the human world, and if she i guess took her human self away, was the human sunset still dated flash or was her sunset doing?
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Ad Astra2021-10-28 12:41:10 (edited 2021-10-28 12:46:19 )
You took this question out from my own mind I mean I wonder that since we saw sunset go in the human world I even asked but I guess you did not see it also, I think the human world is really big just like equestria, so maybe the human sunset is out there somewhere out and maybe we did not see her because the movies and episodes didn't show the world out there instead, they only showed canterlot high. So now you know my suggestion, hope you like it
@Artist Crimson Red It's no problem at all, thank you for pointing it out to me. I try not to assume the tone of people who write on the internet too much. Too easy to assume wrong.
This just came to me. What if the pony Sunset is actually the Sunset from the human world and the pony Sunset didn't live in Equestria. The pony Sunset just lives somewhere to be unnoticed. Human Sunset went to Canterlot School and discovered the magic mirror that connects the 2 world and saw what it does. She became Celestia's student and turned evil and tried to take over Equeatria and so on.
Remember that ponyvill and Canterlot were not the only places in equestria just like how there won't be just the town in human world so original human sunset could be in another part of the world because we don't hear about anyone else in another place from the human world... if that makes any sense
What if the sunset we know IS the human version of her but she found the gateway to equestria and stayed for a bit, then she became princess celestia's pupil because she could sence that sunset wasn't like other ponys. Then I believe sunset started to get power hungry so when she left, she needed to come back to bring magic with her to the human world
First of all, death will never be straight up confirmed in MLP. Even when it's heavily hinted at, like with Bright Mac and Pear Butter, it isn't actually stated, thus no theory about death will ever be confirmed.
That said, my head canon is still that human Sunset is dead. While I find the idea that pony Sunset killed her to be laughable, that doesn't mean that human Sunset didn't meet her unfortunate end. After all, pride and ambition often leads one to their own end.
There is a partial answer to this that most aren't looking at. and that is its believed that Sunset was late teens when she left. if humans and ponies age the same that means human sunset would already done with high school. Which means she'd be gone by the time pony sunset entered the human world, or human sunset could have gone to a different school like human Twi did.
Well, personally, my hypothesis is that most likely Sunset from the world of people lives in another city, so we did not see her ,but the most logical explanation is that the creators simply did not need another Sunset ,so they thought that Sunset from the world of ponies is the only one of its kind . But the version of the murder of another Sunset is also not a bad explanation .
Hey I have a question for ya sawtooth that you can use, if the event with Luna happened in Equestria, ya know by being banished to the moon, do you think that something even similar happened with celestia and Luna in the human work? Like did she get jealous about not being principal and was fired or something and then something happened and now she’s a vice principal and happy with it? Ide be happy if you used my idea on a vid! 😁
So based off of the plot holes Sunset had to had a human counterpart, otherwise where would Sunset live, where did she get her clothes, her home, her money, her everything. Someone had to have taken her in, the most logical idea would be human Sunset’s family. True we never see the human mane six’s families but we do know they have them.
On top of that sure it’s possible Sunset killed her counterpart but she never goes for physical violence until she turns into a demon. This suggests she wouldn’t go for that. So Sunset must have done something else. There are many options. Sunset drove her human counterpart off and took over. Sunset found the human Sunset’s family after said Sunset left home and severed their relationship. Maybe the human one left her family and Sunset convinced them she was the original. Or there’s the possibility that there was an accident when the original did die and Sunset arrived in time to take her place. Or Sunset simply just did identity theft and ruined former Sunset’s life
I think what sunset shimmer might have done is she may have sent the human sunset shimmer into the pony world may have kept her prisoned where tirex and the queen of changelings were. Also I think the moment sunset shimmer wore twilights crown may have erased some of her memories of what she did to the human sunset that might be the reason why she was crying so much…maybe from the guilt of her twin versions death
I'm late to the debate but I have a few ideas and I'm not sure they count as a theory, but....
We know that Sunset was Princess Celestia's student before Twilight, and when Sunset arrived in the human world, Twilight came after. But no one really knows how long, and since the Twilight from the human world transferred to CHS long after Sunset did, it could be indicating what happened with pony Twilight and Sunset in the first place. They start as enemies, end as friends.
I think the pony sunset was actually the human sunset. I mean it may be a stretch but think about it now the pony counter part of sunset human sunset could've just poofed her away or teleported with magic or somehow erased her memory and sent her somewhere else no killing. Now how she got I'm not very sure but human sunset could've just been playing as a child and accidentally went through the portal never to be seen again until ya know the show but think about it human sunset was much more comfortable in the human world then twilight was when she first got there. Also the people in the human world seem to be familiar with her as if she lives there. So most likely she visits her home town and know how the portal works so well remembering it as a child.
This was one of my personal theories, too. I always wondered what happened to the Sunset Shimmer or if there even was one. I never thought maybe there actually is a human Sunset Shimmer, I just had the idea of it.
I think maybe there is an original Sunset, and I do agree with the idea of her not pursuing anything academically related, manily just because I don't see that for her character, but I don't necessarily agree with the idea of failed musician or have an actual idea for what she would do. Still, this was a really cool thought that makes me wanna go back and watch the mlp movies all over again.
Also, a completely not on topic theory/headcanon (I say that because I do have evidence to back this up, though I might be stretching it thin) Rainbow Dash has separation anxiety, and Tank is a of support animal (not officially). There's more to this theory, but I can't remember it right now😅
i want to say something that when zakora gave twilight a potion she saw night mare moons vanish but then she saw discord turn to stone luna was there with celestia but when star light sent twilight to a place where night mare moon was not defeated night mare moon said she did not knew where the elements of hormany was but when discord was turned to stone celestia show where the tree of hormany was but how did she did not remember you can make a video with this
Very interesting and I understand everything 😁 Because I come from Germany and still learning I often don't watch englisch Videos oder Films but yours are ready nice 👌
If Equestrian Sunset really did kill Human Sunset, then She would have eventually told everyone that she isn't "their" sunset. My other theory is that Human Sunset is in another part of the human world. It is a very low chance that you'll meet yourself from another dimension unless you intentionally want to meet yourself. Equestrian Sunset probably got adopted or something, while Human Sunset is with her parents somewhere.
So here's a theory... The human Sunset actually went to ANOTHER universe. Okay I get that this isn't the best but hey this is a theory. In the human universe there can be magic, this is showed through the show, and in the episode with the whole multiverses and changing the timelines, they show that different timelines can change a lot. This could lead to even more universes then pony and human. In all the human world Sunset could have went to another universe.
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Random xyz2021-09-06 06:51:19 (edited 2021-09-06 06:55:41 )
I have a theory and possibly an answer.It could be that sunset already killed the original from Equestria (The world), But there are other ponies that too we have not seen in the pony world or that have been in far away lands like Manehattan or just travelers, But it also could be that they are in unseen cities like Philadelphia.
It's kinda like with Isaacus Maximus: We have never met him before but he is out there somewhere. Even if I made him up, there is possible potential that Isaacus Maximus might actually exist. You could say that, maybe he's human Sunset's emotional support and has been at side since they were young. Truth be told, if Isaacus Maximus does indeed exist, he could potentially make a significant difference to the story or theory.
Just because our sunset wasn't the cause of human sunset stuff that doesn't mean she isn't dead, it can't be proven just like the theory that there is no human sunset but still possibility
I love that Ponytail Sunset design. I dunno why, but she looks so adorable, even more so than Sci-Twi.
As for my theory on Human Sunset, I've two theories I fall back on to explain where she is whenever I'm writing a fanfic.
1. (which I don't use too often, especially after your Sunset Origins videos) Our Sunset IS her human counterpart who somehow ended up in Equestria as a baby and was adopted into a unicorn family (in this case, Sunny Flare's).
2. Human Sunset is part of the Everton Project like Sci-Twi wanted to be so has been off studying whatever subject she's most passionate about.
Most logic is that she either got expelled, dropped out, or switched schools, because that would equal out the fact that sunset left equestria, but I think she was more of a special student, there's one loop hole in it tho that principal celestia doesn't remember sunset, but we can cover it that eighter 1 sunset lied that she knew she had been there when she really didn't, or 2 it was so long ago that celestia didn't remember, again, the school is HUGE remembering 1 student is impossible unless they did something great, but that would mean she(the human sunset) probably dropped out and our new sunset replaced her, probably came back way more rebeliouse then the human counterpart, wich is why celestia woulnt remember her, she used to be just a bit burned out sleepy student that is most of the students, maybe like that one girl (ironically I don't remember her name) that would erase people's memories, she wasn't memorable for a reason, the stone she used, but what if sunset was just too boring and ordenary to remember? It's just a theory lmao
I always used to wonder if there's a human sunset and I thought that there is because in rainbow rocks I didn't really think there's a human twilight but when we met human twilight I thought that there is a human sunset because why wouldn't there be one but my question was were is she and why she never appeared in any episode.
I thought pf a theory of when Sunset was going through the portal to the human world, the human world sunset was also going at the same time and maybe in the big portal we see Twilight going through to get to the human world, they maybe bumped into eachother and maybe combined into 1 sunset that had the goals of the pony world sunset. It's a bit of a stretch but it could be possible!
what if human sunset is actually in the pony realm and is hiding away from the main 6? what if the fact that she was a magician made her study the portal from the pony world to the human world? and once finally seeing the pony sunset come out of it, she secretly walked out and ran away from the main 6 secretly without them knowing?
i think theyve talked about that before actually but i might be wrong, iirc they said they think wavy hair just means a lot of magic and its like flowing out of the hair because theres excess, usually its only possible for alicorns but not always :)
from my understanding wavy manes are just the result of a high concentration of unicorn magic, but if starswirl is THE most powerful unicorn ever, how come mistmane has one and he doesn’t?
Think about it, when Trixie used the alicorn amulet, she had a lot of dark magic. So why didn't she get wavy hair like sombra? Maybe it takes time or something
@Unique Phoenix Maybe it could be a choice for some with a lot of magic? Like, "Yes I want to have my mane be sparkly and wavy, so I'll store some magic there" Or what not?
Ponies have wavy mane when they have a lot of magic that they know how to control And their magic doesn't get out of control .Like trixie had a lot of magic but she didn't really know much about it and couldn't control it much.
I think it is a spell. Used either when you care a lot about how your mane looks or when you have so much magic that you don't know how to get rid of it
@Unique Phoenix maybe it's because it's ur natural magic and not something you stole and it's a lot of magic too , as for twilight raising the sun I think that was just a spark because twilight had all the alicorn magic which made it transfer to her hair for a quick second especially considering she had two opposite magics, sun and moon
@Unique Phoenix in the last ever mlp episode in the future twilight looked a lot like Celestia but with twilight colors and it was twilight and her hair was wavy
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A Bender2021-11-27 02:18:27 (edited 2021-11-27 02:19:32 )
Human Sunset Shimmer almost happened... Nick Confalone posted on Twitter his pitch for an EqG series finale that was ultimately scrapped in favour of Holidays Unwrapped...
Maybe human!Sunset ran away from home. I mean, it would make sense how our Sunset lives in a nice house (as seen in the Monday Blues music video) if human!Sunset's parents mistook her for their missing daughter. Kinda messed up, but not as bad as her killing her counterpart.
i like all of the theories but its also equally likely that the human sunset shimmer does exist somewhere out there in the wide human world but we will never see her because she is living a regular life as just one among literally millions of humans.
One thing Mr. Sawtooth Waves. If Twilight & her friends have human versions, why doesn't STARLIGHT GLIMMER, SUN BURST, DISCORD, PRINCIPLE SINCH/ CINCH FROM THE FRIENDSHIP GAMES, THE VILLAN FROM THE MOVIES WHO WANTED TO BE A STAR, WALL FLOWER & STARSWIRL AND THE PILLARS not have pony or human versions of themselves.
I think like, if the equestria's sunset moved to other place (human place), the other also moved to another place as well. not in a magic way, but just like you said.
One of the writers revealed that there were supposed to be an hour long special at the end of season 2..they will finally found out why the magic keeps following them and what happened to the human sunset shimmer.. Sadly the movie was cancelled and we get a shit ending of the series-
I really want to human Sunset shimmer she's one of my favorite Equestria girls. It's ashamed that never happened and I want Equestria girls to come back with a third season with more episodes and specials I still hope this will happen. And I subscribed today. I wonder if human Sunset came will she be evil just like Sunset used to be ?
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Vernon Kluender2021-11-16 10:28:29 (edited 2021-11-16 10:29:58 )
I considered the possibility that maybe human Sunset Shimmer crossed into the pony universe before the pony Sunset Shimmer crossed into the human universe. Maybe the mirror was in transit on a train and human Sunset Shimmer entered the portal at Canterlot High School as a child. Human Sunset Shimmer has been living as a pony in a small town somewhere ever since. They though she was crazy talking about her old life, so they taught it out of her as a childhood fantasy.
The most likely explanation, however, is that the human counterparts to pony Sunset Shimmer's parents never had the child. Sunset might meet the counterparts of her parents, but not her own counterpart. [Precedent in other franchises: Benjamin Sisko mirror and Jennifer Sisko mirror never had a child, so there is no Jake Sisko mirror.]
I am still AMAZED by Sawtooth's observation skill. Anyway, we don't know anything Sunset's life before becoming Celestia's student. If we did then we could have theoriezed where human Sunset lives. But I think that human Sunset is in another country. She is probably a popular and nice student. And the best musician in the school, also an apprentice of a professional musician. But just like Sawtooth said, she destroyed her chances and ran away to become better.
That's my theory. But I'd love to hear any of your suggestions that could improve my theory 😊😊😊
Here is a theory! Sunset is from the human world originally, and there is a Pony version of her in equestria, not in the human world, I mean it could be a possibility, and Solestia owned the Mirror, plus it would explain her sudden appearance.
Sunset has a real human life but we have never seen sunset in the equestria. So maybe when she was evil she killed her pony self and took it as her place and so on she spreads evil all around the human world
Dr Wolf did a video a while back talking about a planned EQG finale that would address human Sunset and possibly end with pony Sunset saying goodbye to her friends and returning to Equestria permanently to maintain the balance between the two worlds. Kind of a sad story, but at least it would make for a better ending than the one we got.
I’ve actually heard the creators said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
Sunset shimmer it’s much older than the Maine six. Like late 20s early 30s So you wouldn’t find her reflection in a school if anything the appropriate adaptation from her would be her dropping out of school at an early age hint her leaving the school to pursue a different life.
People are saying that the original finale had Sunset meeting Human Sunset and Human Sunset said she ruined her life.
If this is the case I can see this happening. Sunset did ruin her life to be honest. Sunset turned into a demon that almost killed a few people also the yacht cruise where the whether went crazy due to magic (not her fault). Every incident that involves Sunset goes back to Human Sunset. So becoming a demon that nearly destroyed a school and almost killed people might stop her from getting friends and jobs.
Hopefully Human Sunset is doing well but her social life is probably horrible.
I have three theories. First one is that Sunset is from the human world but she was an orphan and she slipped into a portal leading to Equestria. Now you may be asking where is pony sunset than and that's were it gets interesting. I think that she was killed in a forest by Timberwolves and the sunset we know was spat out in that forest and later found by the ponies she calls family. I'd like to point out that in the anon a miss story she says she was never close to her family and I think her starting out as an orphan then being transported to another world with talking horses would definitely causes some sort of gap. Which led to her estrangement with her family and the ambition for magic and power.
The second one is a little more simple but equally possible. And that's that human Sunset is a runaway like Sunset. She could have left her home and essentially is travelling around the world and is staying under the radar because that's what runaways do. They stay hidden. The proof is comparing human Twilight to pony twilight. While the difference of what they are after is magic and science the fact remains that they study it feverishly. I think that maybe she ran away to prove something to those she ran away from much like Sunset did. What that something is remains up for debate. It could be art/painting, or it could be music based. Again no one really knows. The third is much like the first but instead it follows what we know so far with the sunset we do know. So she would be a pony. There we can now focus on human Sunset. In this theory not just human Sunset but her entire family is killed/lost in some sort of accident. While no real proof exists, I would like to point out that if either a human sunset does exist and shes as estranged from her family as pony Sunset than why haven't we seen anything about a missing sunset or have a family member like human sunsets parents or sibling run up to her or something similar in all this time. It's not like Sunset is hiding herself. Shes in a popular band, was in a movie, and was at a rock concert and sung with the idols on stage. That's hard to miss. Which is why it's possible for human sunset and her family to be dead. As well as if she did take over human Sunsets role as found daughter why would she be living in her cheap somewhat rundown apartment alone? Anyways those are my thoughts on human sunset. Sorry for the long read.
We also don't know whereabouts of human-world Starlight Glimmer. Both of these characters share the similar history of becoming bitter for not getting something or losing something and looking extreme measures to get what they once had. Starlight most likely would pursue the world of politics or education, trying to make everyone "equal". Sunset could have been similar to how Human-Twilight was. Lack of friends and interest in anything else, she pursued science. But her ambitions making her bitter, for not getting anywhere. She is the kind of character that would become a mad, secluded scientist. Also, both of these characters ended up going far from their homes. One finding an empty area on the far reaches of Equestria and other on whole different world. So both Human Starlight and Sunset would likely be on way different countries.
You all know Sunset wanted to be the "only" Sunset Shimmer and wamted to rule the school and she was a bully. Maybe She did something bad to the human Sunset because Sunshim started to be good. Just turned mean, and in the first EQG movie she said: "Bring me something i could use just like you did to that last girl, who thought she could challenge me.".
I think that human sunset is already an adult. Think about it. Our Sunset was Celestia's student before Twilight therefore she must be older because Twilight has been Celestia's apprentice since she got her cutie mark. Twilight and Sunset would have met before Equestria girls if they were both Celestia's personal students at the same time. Also there's probably a time difference between the two worlds because the mane 6 are young adults during the series. Rarity having her own business and Rainbow Dash being part of a military team definitely makes them all over 18. But they are still in Highschool in the human world. The human world isn't on the same time as Equestria.
1. The original human version of Sunset Shimmer is probably studied very well until she has cross reached the university level. without high school 2. Sunset Shimmer Pony was still a bad person before, so she might have come up with a plan to combine the human Sunset Shimmer with herself and unite her memories. 3. original human Sunset Shimmer was Missing when the Sunset Shimmer Pony appeared. The Sunset Shimmer human parents were delighted and thought this was real Sunset Shimmer
My theory of her cutie mark is there are different colors of her mark, so just like you said they are putten as human world and equestria or i dont know how to spell it.
I'm actually curious what cutie mark talent it is 😳
you're missing one simple question it's not where is human Sunset it is when is human Sunset you are forgetting that there's at least a 10 year gap between when's sunset disappeared and when Twilight became Celestia student and now is sunset and Twilight are around the same age there is obviously some kind of time dilation
okay these is stated briefly in the shows first movie she went to a land where she doesn't exist where magic existence is out of it how ever since twilight was original part of both worlds there are two versions of her but not sunset.
I guess Sunset Shimmer didn't have a human counterpart just like Starlight Glimmer. Or their counterparts exists but doesn't live in North America like the others do. Maybe Sunset's human counterpart is European and Starlight's Australian. In that case no lives are ruined or doubled. They both exists but they just doesn't know about each other existence. Unless some student of CHS filmed the Spring Formal incident and posted this video. And when it went viral then....
i feel like im going insane because i have this distinct memory of this extra thing where the actual human sunset shimmer showed up, sorta like how sci-twi did at the end of rainbow rocks, it was just a quick and short thing, but i never saw it again and now that im actually looking for it, it just doesnt exist??
I think it's fun imagining the emphasis of ambition in her character going towards either her graduating high school early and going to college for politics OR as a darker turn she drops out and becomes a crime boss
Human sunset then the theory that Celestia if she goes into the human realm there's a chance that she won't be able to actually get out of it therefore the thing with the human sunset is she probably did exist but since sunset decided to stay into the human realm instead of the equestrian realm it's probably a side effect of her staying there that her human counterpart is not existent or maybe they just merged together considering the fact that she can stay in both rounds with no problems but when Twilight was in that room she really couldn't do much since she's reliant on her pony form and how she was in her human form yes she was still had some a little bit of magical abilities but considering the fact that her cutie mark is magic you can't really like amp up the power of magic yeah you can just put the crown on yeah that'll give you your magical powers back but it wouldn't really explain how sunset shimmers able to stay there for so long without seeing her counterpart unless her counterpart is her unless she is not just one sunset but two she probably merged with the other sunset just so the state so the universe could stay stable since when the two twilight saw each other they couldn't both be in the same universe so they had to so the Twilight from the from Equestria had to go back and since you can't send a pony into the human realm because they would see their counterpart it probably became unstable for sunset originally therefore I think that the original sunset and the human counterpart of sunset must have merged together so they can stay there at the same time or she's just doesn't exist because or she just died
I should have said this a long time ago. But it was confirmed not everyone in equestria or the human world has a counterpart. So Sunset most likely doesn’t have a counterpart there.
Or maybe that sunset was the one from the HUMAN world and there's actually no pony world sunset. Think about it, sunset knew about the human world already when she took twilights crown. She knew what the human world was, where the portal was, everything! The mane 6 from the human world even said that sunset was a bully there, so obviously sunset has known about the world for awhile. And in the movie about i think it was the memory stone, when sunset came through the portal to the pony world she was standing on her hind legs trying to hug twilight like a human. Also even if sunset WAS originally from the pony world, you would think we would've seen her around more/met her earlier than In that first movie when she stole the crown right?
It's a shame eqg was cancelled thx to has hasbro since we were very close to see a proper ending with the human sunset shimmer in it but of course hasbro had to cancel it and sadly the only way we'll get a proper ending if it's made by a fan. At least the show had a good fun when it lasted.
Here's what I think when sunset went to the human world she found the house of her human counterpart and convinced her to let her stay and to go to her school for her the human sunset agrees seeing a opportunity to stay at her house and be lazy
We don’t even know most of the Humans from the Human realm such as the light green Girl wearing Stars with purple Shoes 👠 I mean she makes several appearances but will still don’t know her name. I mean do all the Humans have Pony counterparts? This actually rises more Questions than Answers.
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IV Sparkle X2022-03-23 17:18:18 (edited 2022-03-23 17:18:48 )
Who else thinks it's weird that they keep their Pony colours and it doesn't turn into a normal skin color?
This got me thinking of what if Sunset was originally from Earth but went to ponyville as a child and was so ecstatic by the magic she stayed there and forgot about her human life
This makes so much scene Equestria is at realm of magic while Earth (or at less this Earth like realm) is the realm of science and both are two half’s of the same hold, both are connected to each other and share the same yet different inhabitants
RW:there was a movie in the making for hasbro to have another Equestria Girls movie that would've showed The Human Sunset,but sadly the idea was scrapped.😔(couldve been cool though)
Manha Ali khan 2021-11-29 18:29:05 (edited 2021-12-04 17:58:21 )
Well the human world doesn't have all of Equarias creatures like Starlight glimmer, Sunburst, Moondancer, the wonderbolts Angelwins,Vaper trail and Sky stinger, Lightning dust and Flurry heart.💖
“That was like if issac newton came back from the dead except it wasn’t him because he was from an alternate world as a wizard.” “Oh that’s about right actually” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, Sunset seems to be in the human world longer than Equestria. What if human Sunset went to Equestria? This could also explain why she has an unnamed element of harmony...
I have a little bit of a theory of my own. In equestria, sunset shimmer is/was a student of celestia. What if its the same thing in the human world? What if human sunset shimmer is/was a student of canterlot high? And she got kicked out of the school for doing something wrong just like equestria sunset did? Mabye human sunset discovered the portal and went through to equestria. I propose that human sunset is in equestria AS WE SPEAK plotting her revenge on the human world. There are many flaws to this theory and it's probably not true but it is something fun to think about and kinda builds a suspense and something to look forward to. Mabye the friends will have to battle human sunset in equestria?
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who still thinks of this. Personally I think Human Sunset does exists, just in a different part in of the Human world. This would make sense, because no one has heard or saw Human Sunset in their known location or the two schools. But it could be possible that there was another school we haven't heard about.
I think maybe the human sunset shimmer lives in a diffrent part of the human world,so that's the reason why we don't see her and only see the equestrian sunset.
To be fair. I just think that "other" human sunset never existed. Maybe just like the dazzlings, she doesn't have a human counterpart. Yes, other theories like she's a runaway, she killed her human counterpart* or her human counterpart is hiding ,make alot of sense but maybe she just didnt have one? or i'm just being dumb and forgetting things-
*this theory is suprisingly believeable, but it scares me since sunset is my 3rd favourite character so i don't like to believe it xD
I have a huge theory. Its not necessarily related to this alot but it is with sunset. Me and my friends used to wonder why sunset wasn't a alicorn but, in the friendship games when she was trying to stop twilight she was a alicorn? I think that Princess Celeste was originally going to make her a alicorn. But since she abandoned her studies she never got that option but it was still within her for the good.
I heared that the ending of the Equestria Girls seires was supposed to end with a movie where we meet the original Sunset, and pony Sunset must face that she stole the life of someone!
I have a question if celestia and luna are sisters then it's love that keeps them together...THEN WHY DID THEY'RE CROWNS MAKE FRIENDSHIP? Shouldn't it be love?
The cutie mark theory sounds the most logical to me becuse look at her cutie mark change the brightest to white and the darkest to black the colur is the black and white make the same form as hers and you got ying and yang when u think about that or good versus evil they both need each other and take that with her mark it fits well human and eqeustria one canot exist with the other in the friendship games i bet eqeustria got destroyed a bit too i bet so makes sense to me.
Another point in this question where is Human Starlight Glimmer? We saw her come to the Human world in EQ Girls: Magic Mirror where Sunset states she never seen her there
Hey sawtooth, I asked this question on Google and it said that since sunset shimmer took human sunset's place in the human world human sunset is trying to make pony sunset's life as miserable as possible.....
It has already been confirmed that the sounset slimmer of the human world is still alive and hiba will appear on season 3 of equestria girls before being canceled
yes just like twilight met her human form maybe she also is a crystal prep student and intends to look all that is more out there maybe she is also inocent oo or maybe the pony sun set is actualy a human who goes to equestrian world
Well maybe the human sunset was once in crystal prep even before Twilight and when she didn't get what she want probably into being a student president or something. And she decided to abandon her study and went to canterlot high and fell into the portal by accident or found another portal and when she was there she transferred to another school and try to conquer that one. I say this because in the first Equestria girls movie, the storyline is pretty similar from MLP S1 on how Twilight met the other mane 5
Idk why but this is my thought; Ya'll know how starlight and twilight are close, well so is sunset and twilight and both sunset and starlight seem kinda the same from my pov. So what I think is that sunset might be starlight human version. Ik it sounds stupid because like we already saw a human version of starlight and pony version of sunset but what if sunset was always a human? And it may be that sunset is a AU of starlight that just happens to join the original star light's world and they just happen to not notice that. Idk but this is just my thought
Going back to Sunset killing her human self. Yes she didn't use physical harm on anyone but she caused a lot of mental harm. This is just little dark, but if the possibility of Sunset killing her human self is there... could she have bullied her into suicide?
sunset is the only pony that doesn't have a human version ,she connects both of the worlds together , so there's only one sunset shimmer between two worlds there can't be two.( think that's what EQG means before
I don't really know but i would think maby her counter part would be a failed musician like you said. But if she is she is not a failed one she may have just lived in a country with not much communication but you may be right on her not having a counter part.
1. pony sunset killed her human counterpart? if she did, she'll have a HUGE regret and probably told the humane 5 that she already killed the human her during or before "rainbow rocks" when she beginning to redeem herself.
2. i assume the human sunset would have been in high school like the humane 7 as of the last one aired.
what i think is that the human sunset shimmer is in a different location near or far from the cusd (canterlot unified school district) and go to a different school district and probably your average smart teen girl.
the human starswirl might have been real and live long to make a impact on science.
the thing about "friendship is magic" and "equestria girls" connecting to each other - is that hasbro and the creators never reference the mirror portal on both series, but in books only.
assume that pony starswirl created the mirror, he might have used to eavesdrop on the sirens (from rainbow rocks) in the human world after their banished by the pillars of equestria - some how transport any creatures in modern equestria to modern earth, right where canterlot high is at.
in the "fall of sunset shimmer", the mirror was already there and was never explain it's origins much either.
so in my ending, human sunset show up at the end of junior year at CHS as a average transfer student, pony sunset feel homesick for equestria, give her magic ability to her human counterpart and says "goodbye" (not a "goodbye" goodbye but a goodbye until next time (like pony twilight said once) to her human counterpart and the humane 6 and also give the magic book she has to them, so they can "chat" with her and their own pony counterparts (which i'm thinking of a actual 30 minute tv series with a 1 hr. special of themselves acting like their counterparts (humane 7 in equestria acting like their pony counterpart while the mane 7 (yes, i consider pony sunset as a 7th member, even she doesn't have a element - act like the human counterparts) in each other's universe, act kind of badly until night time and switch back, but have fun doing so.
My headcanon is a bit boring but logical nonetheless. She was a student to Princess Celestia prior to Twilight so maybe she's a bit older in the human world (and maybe the pony world too). Since Sunset Shimmer was a student of Princess Celestia, I like to think she is naturally smart and the human version of her got into a very prestigious college somewhere far away. This headcanon will only work if she studied in Crystal Prep and never met Principal Celestia and human Twilight, of course.
Personally, I've always thought Sunset was pretty bad even pre-reformation. Given what we've seen in Equestria, ambition and lust for power can lead to some pretty nasty things. Especially because demon sunset, if I remember correctly, said she had planned on conquering Equestria. Compared to that, killing a single person is not really a big deal, as I don't think she'd act like Tirek did and just yeet the princesses into Tartarus. Besides, it seems likely to me that she's been involved in shady human world dealings as her job is as the waitress of a sushi place, yet she owns a pretty nice looking house and appears to have plenty of money.
Also, it just occurred to me that human world Gummy is a plush toy...yet he's a living animal in Equestria who speculates on the nature of life and the reason of existence...????
@Terminator 156 Then why did dr. wolf make a video with proof that said there were going to give Sunset Shimmer a human counterpart but scraped it. If you can find proof for you claims post it. Otherwise what your saying isn’t true.
My theory is that the human sunset goes missing before our sunset goes in, so the pony took the place of the human one and gone more mad only for the comparations betwen them
There’s another problem to we never see glamorous glimmer as well if that’s how you spell it we see her pony self but not her counter part I mean we did see how she would look like but that still was just her pony self turned into her counter part same goes for sun set shimmer maybe they are STILL THERE but aren’t in the same place as the other counter parts are
Well Sunset is probably older than main Twilight by at least a year in Equestria. I had just assumed human Sunset was older than the Equestria Girls and in college.
There was actually confirmed to be a scrapped special focused on Sunset Shimmer and what happened to the human Sunset, and what happened was actually very sad, but of course, it was a scrapped idea so it isn't entirely canon, if you want to find it it was a post by one of the producers named Nick Confalone
@Quacker Dr Wolf made a video about the post called "There was supposed to be a human Sunset Shimmer counterpart?", and searching "Nick Confalone human sunset shimmer" will show a result about the post, idk how to send links so this is all I can say
I’ve actually heard something about the creators said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
If Sunset was good at magic in Equestria, I don't think Human Sunset would be good at music. Maybe she would be a mad scientist because pony Sunset was a rogue magic student.
Pony world Sunset was a student of Celestia at the magic school & then jumped into a magic mirror & went to the human world where she found herself just outside a human high school. However I should be noted that Twilight never met Sunset at the school, it may have been because she always had her nose in a book however what is Sunset was several years older? Maybe humen Sunset has graduated high school & gone on to take a job or is in college? That would suggest a few things Either pony Sunset did not enroll in high school right away or the mane 5 (of both worlds) are a little older then the Twilights (that would be why human Twilight took so long to take the stage) Just my thoughts & probably full of holes
maybe sunsets original counterpart found out about Equestria so she travled there and is secretly plotting revenger for bing mistreated in the human world
Theorie: Maby the human sunset one day discoverd the magical World. Orverwelmed by the magic she wanted to Also have the magic in the human World. That's when she discoverd pony Sunset, even tho human sunset didnt know anything about her Powers she challanged pony sunset to a duel. Pony sunset Was confused seeing herself and she lost the duel. That night human sunset stole twilights crown. And everything begann like that.
Sucks the series was canceled 'cause we woulda gotten the answer to this question. No, seriously, look it up. They were gonna end "Equestria Girls" Season 2 with a special with the main plot being finding out what happened to Human Sunset.
What if the human sunset shimmer is the sunset shimmer we see.? Maybe a while ago human sunset shimmer went into equestria to steal some magic to take back home. But, she gets caught going back to the human world, and you know the rest. But I guess then that brings up the question: where’s pony sunset shimmer? I don’t really know. I guess she could be somewhere in equestria where she can have as much power and magic as she wants. Maybe like a starlight glimmer situation with a village? Then she could keep and control the magic there.
Maybe Human Sunset died of something ? Idk \ Or maybe she was in hiding after seeing Sunset's mistake in the EQG 1st part. She might not wanna be called a doppelganger
Well, let's think logic... Sunset traveled between the 2 worlds... but if there is a 3rd world were the human Sunset lives... this theory may change the hole mentality about my little pony...
I have a question!!! How come when the girls transform Fluttershy and Rainbowdash get their wings but Rarity and Twilight don't get their horns?!?!? I have theories but it still doesn't make sense🤔
Blopsie. Let’s see. Maybe if we dig into the human world Twilight, who might know the unknown Sunset, we could find her. Please have a video like this, Sawtooth.
I have a theory but it was proven wrong in the friendship games ending
Do you think it's like the time travelling rule where seeing your past could cause disappearing not death but maybe teleporting to a void I mean tawog uncle grandpa and regular show have a void
Maybe she's hiding in Tokyo ,where she's living with a person with the same name as hers and the she's the lead vocalist of a band while being in a relationship with the a guitarist that plays for another band.
Hint Hint: Anime Series, Rebecca Shoichet and Kelly Sheridan
yk what i thought at first,that human sunset came to equestria.but then i thought that wouldnt we see her?so i threw that thought away. now i think this.. we only met human twiliight because her school and the school of main six had a connection. otherwise we would have never seen her,maybe thats the case?that where human sunset lives,theres no connection between the school of main six,thus we havnt seen her. so basically,we havent seen her because she dosent live near,or has any connection with the main six./thier.
I think is that in one of the shows when she goes back goes back to ponyville grill quick she gets the book but she's like human human still cause she doesn't know how to walk as pony homie so I think that's the solution she probably gave the Crown to the real human version of themselves but the other version just goes back
I think there's one more probability. I think that human sunset know about alternative world too. And both of Sunsets go through the portal at the same time. And they're be one Sunset only.
It could also be possible that the human sunset shimmer is a ambitious gamer since the pony sunset shimmer loves playing video games so there could be a connection there.
If sunset killed the real one wouldn’t they have thought oh no sunset was into studying wasn’t she cause of the glasses and book and how come she doesn’t need glasses also when u said she killed her was she nice kind or was she rude and selfish wouldn’t they notice the difference between them? Ok bye now thank u for listening
Let me introduce fan fiction. Also I think maybe the human world sunset was principal celestias daughter but she died when sunset came to the human world, as for how she died. Leave it up to imagination.
If she was celestia's pupil when Twilight was still a kid wouldn't that make her way older than Twilight. If so why is she the same age in the human world?????
Im probably going to sound stupid for this but my question is, Starswirl banished the sirens to the human world, so naturally there would be another sunset, she introduced magic, yes, but shouldnt she still have a counterpart, considering how long the world existed? Please correct me if Im wrong btw
I have a theory that maybe there can only one Sunset exist in the same world. Maybe after a long time when Sunset was in the human world, the one that truly belonged in human world disappeared or something? Maybe universe thought that they can be only one of them in the same world and deleted the first one from existence? We know that Pony Twilight and Human Twilight met, but there weren't 2 Twilights in one world for a long time
What if Sunset Shimmer went through the portal to Equestria? In the movie it never explained how Sunset Shimmer knew about the portal to another world. Maybe human Sunset Shimmer found out about it before human Twilight did & she went to Equestria. Plus the mane 6 are literally the same ppl from Equestria & the human world with the same personality & mindset so if Sunset Shimmer went to the human world then why wouldn't human Sunset go to Equestria. I can't come up with a better theory but what if the answer is just so simple
Well like maybe Human Sunset was like well there but not entirely so here’s my guess what if the sunset was in a different place but when sunset leaves there’s only one sunset left so yeah but Sawtooth just might be right about human Sunset
I don’t think the theory about sunset killing the human version of her would be true because this is a show mainly made for kids (Not saying it’s not for everyone I’m just saying that kids watch the show too probably more than older people do)
K but like how could you even consider the possibility of Sunset killing her human counterpart? This is a kids show. They literally couldn’t make that canon.
If she did have a counter part wasnt a part of her pony info that she was celestias student BEFORE Twighlight so wouldn't human sunset have possibly gone to crystal prep (like twighlight?) and then just graduated and possibly moved out of town or just lives somewhere. Unless human sunset took pony sunset IN and thats where she has been living. This would also explain all the timeliine differences between the world? But thats just another theory XD
Biggest plot hole for me is she’s supposedly older then twilight as celestia says sunset was her original student, then he banished her to the human world and twilight came a few years later. Sunset was already older, plus twilight was a kid when she started learning under celestia. Buttttttt somehow she’s only in high school..? Wouldn’t she be well into college or even out of college by the time twilight shows up in the human world??! That’s the biggest thing to me that doesn’t make sense is the aging thing!
And since your doing a video on this: where is starlight glimers counter part, she should have a human form, heck she's even more powerful then twilight past the whole " frenship" .In other words She has more magic that doesn't come from friendship. And why is sunset, twilight and starlight have similar names, cute marks, and personalities? Do they have some sherd destiny or something. and have you watched the new mlp trailer, and what do you think?
Well she would be at her village. It’s simple, Starlight never went to Ponyville willingly; the mane 6 first came to her. so logically she would still be in her village, just in the human world
Remember, when our Starlight went through the mirror, she came out a teenager.
Since Sci-Twi is a teenager and Princess Twilight came out a teenager the same age as Sci-Twi, it stands to reason Starlight’s human counterpart is a teen too, so it's more likely she would be another member of a cult, not it's leader.
Though, since she'd still be a teen, and considering the clothes our Starlight ended up having when she came through the mirror, EQG Starlight is more than likely still living with her dad in Sire's Hollow going through the phase our Starlight was revealed to have been going through before she left Sire's Hollow because her dad left her bedroom exactly as it was
In The Rainbow Rocks we meet Aria Blaze, one of The Dazzlings/The Sirens. Aria Blaze and Starlight Glimmer look shockingly similar. But they have different names. Maybe before Starlight stole cutie marks she was like Aria Blaze. In The Parent Map we see Starlight’s old room. Her old room looks like something Aria Blaze’s room would look like. Maybe she nicknamed herself Aria Blaze to sound cooler. But this brings another question. Aria Blaze wasn’t from The Human World, she might be from The Pony World but we don’t know exactly where she came from, at one point she was in The Pony World but there might even be another World where she came from. She was a siren, came or was from The Pony World and was sent to The Human World.
Yes but if aria blaze is starlighs human form why were the sirens in the pony world? Well were, and if aria = starlight then what happed to the time line. Good ideas! Can the sirens dimention hop?
@gtx.princess When Pony Twilight came to the human world she didn’t look so much like Sci-Twi. I think small differences are possible they don’t have to look exactly the same.
i have a theory that sunset shimmer was actually from the human world, and theres a pony counterpart to human sunset, not a human counterpart to pony sunset
I think the other sunset shimmer is studying in the other school, and i think she has the personality as same as original sunset shimmer, maybe (sorry about my English because I'm Vietnamese ).
Possibly an unpopular opinion but- I feel like sunshine shimmer is a way more important character than anyone realizes. Sometimes she feels more important than the mane six. But here me out first- Throughout all of the EG movies except the first where shimmer went all she-demon, she tends to be the one friend who has everyone's back even when being treated like shit, always the one to be the most understanding of all characters, and seems to have the most empathy out of them all. And as a matter of fact while watching Rainbow Rocks and Legend of Everfree, I even thought to myself how I feel like Sunset Shimmer is the one who truly harnesses the magic of friendship. She's the one they needed to help defeat the sirens. She was the one to follow human Twilight to see what was bothering her when she was worried about the magic she was experiencing. She was always there at every step when something went awry. What are your thoughts? Edit: I just remembered something after posting but, in Rainbow Rocks, even though the mane six together have the magic of friendship, I remember finding it so odd that Sunset Shimmer out of all of them- (especially after once being a one of the meanest people) was the only one to see that they were all falling for the sirens' tricks and trying to make them all bicker with each other and spread negative magic. She was the only one to notice the energy rising to the sirens. Shimmer is definitely super powerful imo. Even though she says she still has a lot to learn about friendship, I think the characters have a lot to learn from her.
The sunset pony version is starlight glimmer and they make this obivious in a soft way, she is the day, starlight the night, sunset is more like celestia, starlight like luna, they don't have human versions and she is human and starlight pony
Anna Cipher2021-09-02 17:50:48 (edited 2021-09-02 17:52:32 )
My thoughts are sense the universes sense yes without magic to influence her life like our sunset she could have been science or magic
But take in mind are sunset had a fall out with celectia and ran away but ares was a pony turned to human through the magic portal mirror, but real original human sunset wouldn't have the advantage of magic and portals so she simply left the school hence like are sunsets running away and or she moved away
Are sunset is in reality actually a pony not really a human (but can be) she had a very magical redemption Ark but the difference between are sunset and actual human sunset was that are twilight and human main 6 were there to guide her in the right direction and help her Human sunset wouldn't have that because again the human main 6 were involved with are sunset which in a way changed human sunsets fate and or destiny to some degree
Or Sunset Is the human one! She traveled to Equestria and lived there came back and wanted to unite both worlds cause.. (Cutiemark) defines human world and Equestria. I mean, she Told about the human world to the ponies.
What if star swirl the bearded the protogue of gusty the great like 1 celestia and luna with star swirl 2 twilight with celestia 3 luster dawn with twilight Now we have a full line of mentors and succession and it perfectly fit equestria's time line and history we don't know much about grogar it is ironic that gusty banished grogar thought star swirl .start swirl thought celestia and banished pony of shadows celestia banished night mare moon and
When he said “maybe he killed the other sunset” but then I just thought omg 😱 sunset shimmer was prom queen for years but how could that happened didn’t she just go through the portal I mean maybe once or twice but for years what if the human sunset did die
I'm confused on how Twilight didn't upset the balance like how Celestia said the main 6 couldn't go with her because of their human counterparts was it because Twilight's human counterpart wasn't friends with the human main 6????
@название отсутствует en si Celestia lo decia porque una contraparte puede pasar como un igual de casualidad que hayan 6 personas iguales entre si puede haber problemas como que crean que son aliens y los quieren examinar o cosas similares
What makes the most sense about this is that, just like in Equestria, Human Sunset could have dropped out of school. I feel like murder is too far for a kids show lol
I could've sworn there was an episode of her literally kidnapping her human self and just leaving her someplace. I think it was just a weird ass dream though, but it makes sense 2 me
I read somewhere that some people don’t have a Human Counterpart, I’m not sure if it was confirmed or not but I’m sure it explains something,I’m really not sure, it was ages ago it was from the mlp Wiki fandom
I think that the real human sunset is like pony sunset shimmer, maybe she was in another school far away she was a very good student and loved her studies. But then just like pony sunset human sunset wanted power and so she ran away and ‘till this day she is hiding somewhere where no one can ever find her trying to find a way to get all the magic in power in the world but unlike pony sunset human sunset has not changed her bad ways and has no friends………over time she has been forgotten by all humanity but human sunset promised herself one day she would return into the actual human world and out of hiding seeking revenge……..
But that’s just my theory but in my opinion it would be a good one
What if…? Human sunset is in the pony world? Like she passed through the same that sunset passed and find a way to equestria? The other possibility is that considering that the human world is a little bit in the past (idk if someone apart of me realized that) maybe human sunset is on school and all that equestria sunset passed haven’t pass to her yet?
Could she be in the government, state governor, or principle assistant? As you said she is power hunger and pony Sunset Shimmer was close to Celestia. So could see be a retired vice president, state governor, or principle assistant.
Ok so this might be crazy but one thing that is connected to sunset it well the sunset in one of the movies there’s twilight and there’s also a sunset I think sunset might not have killed human sunset but she might have captured her and hidden her so no one could ever hear from human sunset just a theory
I think, just like the original sunset shimmer, she maybe ran away from her home to another city, maybe even country. because I think there is a sunset shimmer like everyone else.
There was a finale planned with Human Sunset being the focus and we see how her life was unintentionally ruined by Pony Sunset and after they meet and clash, Pony Sunset, filled with regret, would return to Equestria, the portal would be closed and magic removed from the human world. All of which happening permanently. But since the show was ending, S9 their sole focus and G5 production soon in full swing, this big finale was scrapped. So the best we fans can get is to put the finale together ourselves. But who knows?
1. Do why Human Twilight has wings when she ponys up but as a pony she’s a unicorn and 2. Human Sunset is probably from Crystal Prep, or she just goes to another school. Another possibility is Sunset Shimmer was just a normal person that’s definitely not Sunset Shimmer but she saw a pretty girl in the school who was the original human Sunset and that was from Sunset’s first ever visit to the human world. She wanted to look so much like the pretty girl so she tried to take her place. She got so mad on how pretty she was and how Sunset was so plain and boring so she did some science and their bodies swapped and now she was living the the human Sunset’s body and she wanted to see the effects on her in the pony world so she went there and she was just like the original Human Sunset. Here’s probably another one. She was at the human world and saw someone who was her, basically. She was nice and friendly but mean pony Sunset was mad she looked like her so she got her kicked out by pretending to be her and she had to stay at her house but she decided to go to Crystal Prep and met some other ones but the bus crashed and everyone on the bus were never to be seen again. Those were some of the original students at crystal prep who don’t appear in the Friendship Games movie because of their disappearance. Pony sunset stole twilight’s crown and all of the things that happened from the EG movies happened.
I feel like I have seen both of the sunsets in the thumbnail I think the one on the left is the movie one and the one on the right is maybe another version of her from a different movie and the tv show idk both of them seem familiar and that’s not just bc there the same person
SO FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION!! (Sorry little hyped up. Some things might not make sense cause of ideas bouncing at each other) So I think if there is a original Sunset Shimmer in the human world. I just think she will be just...either a one rockstar with alot of energy and curiosity.Or She will be a bully delinquent. (i can't do fashion sorry.) Also.The Cutie mark thing was very clever. I didn't realize it but just now! Sunset Shimmer is the one who DISCOVERED the whole new world. Because she was that curious. Okay i am done bYEe
She knew that pinkie pie had the portal behind the scenes cartoon, I think sunset and the other sunset shimmer were constantly swapping places in the pony world
Maybe hear me out, what if human Sunset died of illness, like the killed theory it solves many plot holes, and she could also live far away, like how we don't know, where our Sunset grew up maybe that is where she lived and died
This is a stretch i know But what if Human sunset IS pony sunset Human sunset made a life in the pony and convinced everyone she was from the pony world and when she went to “another” world she actually went to her home world We just dont know where the pony sunset is
What if the sunset we know is actually from the human world and she found her way to the pony world and pretended to be a pony and learn magic and the real pony sunset lives somewhere in equestria
Idk if anyone remebers but in the song release the magic song the professor say somthing about only having a few students like twilight and they always but the good ones always leave, maybe one of those was sunset
One thing I am thinking about (I know I am late here) is that is the pony version of sunset killed the human version, would it some how make a ripple affect in a time line some how. (Don't know if some one or a group brought this up in any way, as I said I am sorry if I'm late)
Or what if we are asking the wrong question maybe we should be asking where is the pony version of her what if the one we knew was originally the human version 🤔
Well enter dimensional traveler with only one counterpart that's technically impossible because every dimension must have another counterpart that's how the multiverse works
Complexities of the multiverse have infinite possibilities infinite reality pending qualities infinite an anomalies teleportation devices infinite planes of existence and everything I mean everything is a plane of existence if you look at it just like if you travel or close the multiversal reality timelines you see the unstableness and the guardian watching over it all sitting on top of the timekeepers thrown all of the multiverse itself revolves around the guardian which is in the center of every multivitis and the next multiverse there will be another another and another infinite time zone reality bending and into the dimensional traveling and causes reality to slip out of your hands and make it into the Fabrications of the anomalies creatures with an unimaginable power and influence over the world someone to contain someone to study someone to protect someone want them the room free someone then they'll use them for entertainment someone they use them for money to use them for science and technological advancement the multiverse incident interesting reality do you traveling through time and space itself making the complex reality chain we see today from infinite multiverse
But the complexity of reality can be questioned anything the elements of neutral do it's you just have to look in the right places a 50/50 character for the wheel of this is that represents half good half bad where can we find that well the multiverse reality complexity and the unstableness send them multiversal traveling we can question theorize speculate but we all know that magic has three parts good neutral evil so well travel no more divorce see what you can find realize travel and be the multiverse and meat that motivational guardian the rest in the heart of our multiverse
one question i have is if the human pony are there pony counter parts then why are the human pony alot more younger and if the pony version of the main six have kids then does those that mean the human version have kids to? and if twilight is immortal then does that mean human twilight is immortal since we know that the human world also has magic ;-;
Video request: Why is human Twilight an alicorn? Netflix posted new equestria girls episodes named canterlot high tales, in the episode 1: dance magic, Twilight turns into human-pony which makes her have ears and ALICORN wings. So your telling me that if for example Applejack turns into an alicorn her human version will to? Or did human Twilight actually did something to earn those wings? And why wasn't she an alicorn when in that cruce thing movie she want to equestria?Please copy paste my comment se cause it's interesting to think that a human Twilight and pony Twilight are different
Maybe her geode draws Pony Twilight’s powers and turns her into an Alicorn. When she walks through the portal, she is a unicorn because she doesn’t draw that power.
Sawtooth: Theirs an idea floating around that the equestrian sunset killed the human sunset and took her place Me:……..yeah I don’t think her evil self would do that, sure she bullied/terrorized an entire school but I don’t think she went as far as killing anybody
I Agree Because There Might Have Been A Original Sunset (H) And I Have A Theory: What If Original Sunset And Original Twilight Sparkle GoTo The Same School Together Because I Saw A Crystal Prep Unform On Original Sunset
Heh I was honestly thinking a gamer for Sunset. It would fit her angry and stuck up mindset and pony sunset is known to love playing video games with Dash so…
Maybe she doesn't have a human counterpart because she was originally human and one day she discovered the mirror and just got wrapped up into the pony world
i agree with the fact that pony sunset wouldn't kill human sunset but i wouldn't put it past her to therein human sunset maybe she threaten to do something mager if human sun set didn't move away so she did and pony sunset took her place
Sawtooth Waves I have a conclusion so you know how twilight got into celesta school sunset wanted to do it to so let me explain twilight is trying to hatch the egg rainbow dash does a sonic rainboom shocks twilight and sunset to try out there thing twilight does it and gets its cutie mark sunset gets her cutie mark the shock on her she almost makes it but messes up cause her shock was bigger which made it worse but twilight had the perfect amount to get her to work so sunset had to try all the things all over again this happened for a long time of hard work she failed and failed but didn't stop her the time when twilight was asked to make new friends this is the time when sunset gave up she thought that knowledge was useless and thought power is what she needed but the other half of her didn't accept don't stop now we can make it just give it a try this is the same thing is happening in the human world this is the time when they splited up the human sunset choosed knowledge while sunset pony choosed power they haved got what they wanted now the next thing that pony sunset was planning for is twilight crown cause she knew that she would probably get it so she planned for weeks until she got it 2 weeks and then when it was night time she swapped out the crown with a fake one but when she got into the portal she known that there was a human of herself so she pretended to be her so she made a fake picture of her exam to get in the school she saw celesta and showed her she thought it was real so she got rolled in but she lost the crown so maybe her crown was to celesta she thought i have to get it so i can be powerful now twilight realized her crown was fake so she knew that someone took it but where then she remembered that she woke up and saw a shadow but when't back to sleep now she thought of something the portal was opened last night someone have been through thats probably why i woke up so she planned that she will go into the portal but the rest of the main six wanted to come but she said that theres probably 2 of you guys so she said that I will be back she went through now she was human she was scared of herself and realized spike is a dog now she went into the school and saw something she signed up so she could get her crown back later on she made friends and when she told them that she needs help to get that crown back they planned to get it and when the day arrived she did her thing when the accounments we're about to be told celesta said twilight sparkle so sunset shimmer that wasn't true she thought if i can't earn it i will take it she wen't up to twilight to snatch her crown she got it put it on her head and transformed into sunset demon but the power of the main six she got defeated by them she said sorry and didn't actually know what friendship was now she cleaned up her mess and starting learning friendship but after that she forgot what she decided and pretend that she was the human sunset shimmer she left behind what she while the other sunset shimmer is keep trying to make it and learned friendship thats all sawtooth waves
after a while i been think of it i been realise some couples in the two world are not the same SO maybe the human sunset never been born i gonna take a non canon exemple in the pony world a.j and r.d are such a couple compare to the human world where instead a.j and rarity are such a couple (again this is not canon this was just an exemple) so if some couples are different in the both world this could mean maybe sunset never been exist in the human world what do you think ?
@Sawtooth Waves deo request: Why is human Twilight an alicorn? Netflix posted new equestria girls episodes named canterlot high tales, in the episode 1: dance magic, Twilight turns into human-pony which makes her have ears and ALICORN wings. So your telling me that if for example Applejack turns into an alicorn her human version will to? Or did human Twilight actually did something to earn those wings? And why wasn't she an alicorn when in that cruce thing movie she want to equestria?Please copy paste my comment se cause it's interesting to think that a human Twilight and pony Twilight are different
Theory- I think that there is no human sunset, I mean.. look at all the humans in the school and the ponies in equestria! Not all humans have a pony counter-part. Sunset could be one of the ones who doesn't have a HUMAN counter-part. Or perhaps she lives far away from the human main six. BUT HEY, THAT'S JUST A THEORY.
I’m pretty sure the there is a human sunset cause when I watch the third equestria girls movie when twilight looked at sunset her face made me think the she was saying “how is sunset shimmer at CHS” and that made me think that there is a human sunset
OK so from the very beginning and your headcanon that she tied the worlds together that is complete bullshit. There is confirmed by Starswirl to be an infinite amount of worlds, some having the same characters but different, others having completely different characters. That is all.
Also sunset was still interested in studying and science like Starswirl and Twilight, in the comic you referenced Sunset is shown sneaking into the dark magic library to study anything Celestia doesn't want her to go after. Also none of the other characters had a music interest while as talented in the field as sunset, you'd need to prove sunset has more of an interest in that field than others do. Heck with Starswirl all his science is just the magic he studied, science in the pony world correlates to magic on a fundamental level.
What if real human sunset shimmer did the exact same thing as the pony sunset. Like what if the human sunset did the opposite like she went through a portal to Equestria and chooses to live there
... the original Sunset Shimmer human was already dead... She just told me. But the pony version is looking for her sometimes. I hope you're not too scared from the idea of a car crash taking the life of the human version, then Sunset Shimmer pony version coming out of Equestria being part of plans for the future of both worlds. I'm sorry Sunset, it's just what happened if you find this.
Maybe og sunset went to pony world and changed her identity.. if anything i think it may make sense cuz in the 5th gen of mlp or the most recent movie involving the newest ponies there is no magic in their world, maybe cuz of an imbalance or a outlier that came in and interracted and maybe mixed genetics with a pony in that world which caused an event that took magic from one side and gave it to the other. Or maybe the genetics mixed more than enough times to take out the magic.. or even the ideas and history and even current writings of magic were taken and destroyed so noone could teach or learn to do magic.
It's funny to think how Sunset is technically older then the she actually is considering her pony form is presumably an adult where as in the human world she's in high school
Since I only see mlp content only once in a while I just find it so odd how your editing looks like other video easseys like yo good job but it just took me by surprise
If sunset shimmer has a canterpart in this world. Big question is where is she. Or sunset shimmer knows she's there but avoid her counterpart. So do the other girls.so they won't get confused by who is who.
Maybe the day pony sunset arrived something happened to her like maybe she got in an accident or ran away and while running away from home she found another portal to equestria and ended somewhere in that universe and while that happened pony sunset bumped into her human parents and that's how she's been living in the human world
I think that she did lived in the human world then she went into the pony world if it was this then she would know about the crown she attempted to steal So I think she would use the magic from the pony world (except the magic of harmony and friendship) She is a student at the school Cause sunset has a house in the human world And then she lived in the pony school
I’m James’s daughter and I think that the human world sunset possibly traveled to Equestrian and then went back home and so there’s the pony sunset still in Equestria.
Ooor the human Sunset lives somewhere else in the world who knows she could be in a place similar to France, England, Italy, Spain, Europe or Africa which is why we never saw her.
when start a complex lore in the mdl of a franchise like mlp doom zelda and other things
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Sara Beauty2022-07-22 19:38:11 (edited 2022-07-22 19:38:47 )
The original sunset might be living at a beach weve never seen i mean her pony cutie mark is a sun so it makes sence and what if she has Another clone? From another world? Like maybe an alien sunset? Twilight and so on, what if there 3 speachies human pony and alien?
Maybe I know when twilight got there take her crown back to eqestria her counterpart was out somewhere to study maybe sunset shimmer's counter part moved somewhere else and never came back
What if the sunset we know is the human sunset shimmer and she found the portals and way between worlds and hence how she met our Celestia learned magic and why she's the only one who goes back and forth between both worlds cause she is the only one of herself maybe
i mean if there was an originall im sure shed show herself by now mainly because the sunset we know and her friends have formed a band and they even were shown on television its wat gives them at least one enemy who uses a mirror or was it a phone to trap the friends ??? i mean this is just my thoughts and i doubt u will take notice but i find this to be a very interesting factor if she is real why hasnt she confronted our sunset ?? for taking the fame that the other sunset always wanted ??
Og pony Sunset left her Equestria... Og human Sunset left her Earth... Wait. Did og human Sunset leave Earth? Not so much so as to go to the pony world, but maybe another world entirely... another dimension. Only implication is she can't return and go back as easily as with the mirror. Maybe she found herself in one of the alternate realities we saw during the Twilight/Starlight time travel episode? Maybe she came to this world and is currently locked up for being batshit crazy? "I HAVE YELLOW SKIN!! I HAVE BLONDE AND RED HAIR GROWING NATURALLY OUT OF MY HEAD!! I'M NOT CRAZY!! I'M NOT CRAZY!! NO!! I DON'T WANT ANYMORE NEEDLES!!I'LL BE GOOD!! I'LL STAY QUIET!! PLEASE!! I DON'T WANT TO FORGET ANYMORE.."
Ahem. Sorry. It got away from me there for a minute.
She probably doesn't have one because pinkie pie knows everybody and when she met twilight she said "do u have a twin sister" or something like that. she probably would've said the same to sunset if sunset did have one. but it would be cool if she did have one
i think her cutie mark has something to do with balance, but im not sure lol. if her cutie mark does mean that then maybe it's just that there is no human sunset and sunset was made to introduce magic to the human world. NVM I REALISED THE WHOLE THING FOR ONE OF UR THEORIES IS LITERALLY THAT
So say human Sunset got kicked out of school, same as the pony one. She now has nothing left in that world that matters to her, no idea what to do next. Pony Sunset comes in, and tells her of a magical place she can get a fresh start. So human Sunset goes to the pony world, to find a new place to live and start a new life
My brothers and I have a theory that sunset killed his self from that universe, I know very well xd but it came to us out of nowhere and also because I said "a corpse appears with a xd"
Well saw two players if you want my thing on it I just think that the human sunset might be dead like that theory on the human cozy glow I mean it's a possibility like that human star squirrel so maybe you should think about that being a possibility or something bigger
I think starlight glimmer is the sunset shimmer of the pony world and some that shimmer is the starlight glimmer of the human world, and forgotten friendship we see that sunset shimmer is friends with Trixie and starlight glimmer is friends with Trixie and pony world also they are both very similar so
what if human sunset never actually appeared what if shes just in another school that didnt participate in the school event in the equestria games or something
i think human sunset had to move in the human world becouse she was kicked out all of the schools. since sunset was also sent to tho another world and kinda got kicked out :)
I believe that the human sunset never existed. Or if she did. The pony sunset stay in the human world to long to the point where the human sunset slowly disappeared.
Yes there has to be an human sunset if there hes to be two of the same a human and a pony and they both like the same so there has to be a human and pony sunset you get what i am saying right
There is but probably not in that world because the pony sunset was put into the human dimension right? Which means the original human sunset could be in another dimension... I mean it is the only thing that makes sense currently!
Hey have a another theory about the two worlds what if something happened in the human world used something that created an Alternate world, that would be Equestria. Again just a Theory I had.
I HAVE A THEROY when you talking about sunburt and trixe beeing dawns parents i thought that mabye it could have been sunsets daughter or sister because dawn is that same as sunrise and sunset is the opisite of sunrise. Their cutie marks are similar kind of because of the sun but the point of their cutie marks and the names are whats the lead. I dont know if its true but sunset seems to be the same age as twilight and the group and pinkie had a kid. So sunset could be her mom or her sister ( i also commented this on your other video )
Well you were talking about that pony sunset killed human sunset ? , but isn’t possible that pony-sunset used a sort of spell to trap the human sunset and still took her place
In the music theory one its not really the same thing i mean sci-twi is completely diffenert from our twily in attitude ( and slightly in appearance)
Like with what pinkie pie said do you have a sister who lives in the city?
It could be that there is another version of sunset as we later found out that there was more the one portal to equestria
( though o thibk personally that the writers just didnt really think that far ahead , like sunset is meant to be the main character in equestria girls and be its own thing but becauseade Twilight aka Twily is
I know we’re human world sunset is because I made a Wikipedia page about her so basically human world sunset shimmer didn’t get along with anyone because she thought she was weird so she decided to leave The town and start a new life on her own
My thinking that we might be able to base this on human twilight she went to a different school so human sunset probably went to a different school and like you said probably she did music so probably music school but I don’t think she is evil otherwise she probably would have heard that there’s magic in this world now from the second human world movie she probably would have heard and be ready to go to the school and gang power for herself so what I think is that the only reason why she began evil because she was good at magic but since there’s no magic in the human world she move to music and maybe writing music change her motive of power in the future but a humble human sunset wanting to become an idol and inspiration to other people.
I think that there isn't a human Sunset shimmer. I mean she is the connection between both worlds. maybe it was her destiny to bring the worlds together. IDKK
Get this. Sunset is the original from the human world and found a way to equestria when she was little and her pony version was far away like in the town that had no cutie marks or further. And sunset just went back to the human world eventually. Just a thought
I think if the pony and the human Sunset is like the rest that would mean human sunset some how found her way over to the pony world not sure how but it is possible that pony sunset is human sunset
maybe the original human sunset lives with her parents maybe she also got greedy maybe her teacher kicked her out and she was never able to earn money so she goes to her parents and lives with them ...hiding in her home town (edit) and maybe she thought she was to smart to be a normal student maybe she wanted to be pushed up a few grades but never did
Actually considering Sunset is from Canterlot and most of the characters in the human world are from Ponyville it makes sense we’ve never seen human Sunset or Starlight. That said, this is an excellent idea for a fanfic. The Sonic Rainbooms get famous online and are scheduled for a gig on TV and Human Sunset wants to abduct and replace out Sunset on stage.
if twilight in the pony world is a student of celestia in the human world she is also a student, sunset shimmer betrayed princess celestia "broke the law" then maybe in the Human world she is in this in jail for a crime she committed?
It is sad that the Human Sunset had an untimely demise. But, it wasn't Equestria Sunset that killed her human counterpart. Human Sunset was killed...BY ME!!! Muhahahahaha! And on top of that: I have been behind all the darkness in the Pony World, and will continue to do so, in the hopes of creating enough chaos to open a Master Oblivion Gate for my agents to bring even more havoc on Equestria so that I can return to the Mortal Realm in my true form, and destroy all of my little brother's creation back to the basic atoms of which they came, and remake Time & Space into what it was really meant to be!
don’t consider the possibilities, they also have actors, they have their own ideas, or register does have! there human sunset is seen! you’re like saying that you want to animators do for your will the cartoon!
I think that's actually the human version I think that's actually And she let the other pony go and she did it and actually that's how the human version's like and she knows how My Little Pony road in the world works but she doesn't but she stands up for a ponyville she stands she doesn't know how to walk like ponies so I think that's the real one
Umm ok so let’s think this through if their is a replica of each pony how is there only one sunset . There is one sunset in the human world but not in exestria but if in exestria not in the human world. Is she even from exestria.
I don't know what happened to human Sunset Shimmer but the pony who is telling the story about what happened in Equestria world the pony is right because he said why Sunset Shimmer killed the human Sunset Shimmer
Mr. Sawtooth Waves I have a question happen the equestria magic will Fadaway because the mane 7(the RainBlomms)'s magic didn't pony up the the equestria magic is fading away and don't worry the mane 7(equestria girls)and there Friends and with new friends/characters will save the day
I think she wasn't born at all. And the reason why do I think so is that flash sentry has fell in love with Twilight from equestria but not with her human form and we saw them continue in relationship in equestria. So Flash from human world picked sunset and if you think about it the next generation will be different in the worlds so I think this is what happened with human sunset.
Maybe- the human sunset is at the pony world since pony sunset was in the human world and the human sunset found a way to the pony world plus theres more portals to sorry for my grammar
I know why we didn't see human sunset u know the friendship games where principal snitch isn't in the my little pony world I think not every character is in both worlds
There hair don't look the same and their skin either .The left sunset has little dark long hair and her skin is light yellow the right sunset have short hair and dark skin and their were different clothes and the left sunset is tall the right sunset is short
What if the story is backwards,like the original sunset is from the human world and her back story from there was lost to history? It does leave a question but only 1! Where is the PONY sunset not human but PONY!!!!!?????
Well that is true I don’t know if there is a human sunset shimmer but I would love to see an episode with a human sunset shimmer but I think my little pony would make it because mlp already ended soo idk?
If the singer 👩🎤 theory is true I think she wouldn’t not be famous but she’s has a different name remember the Ra ra episode maybe 🤔sunset is the new Countess colour a torra.
When she went portal with twilight and spike can’t be 2 humans the same like ponies can’t be the same. Even in real life there only one of you but I never believed that. Since twilight and spike went back to home after like a day or week so new twilight was able to be born or move there or even both. Since sunset had not got back home a lot yet. Could be one of these I name. Or could be spell that one ponies set because twilight was miss friends so she pick to make a copy of herself in human world.
Yes there is an other Sunset simmer As maby the Sunset simmer is a look of twilight sparkle ✨ 😍 maby she is in an other school 🏫 maby the school 🏫 😀 is called sinetist students 😀 it is making sense 😀 😄 😉 👍 maby the other Sunset 🌇 simmer has strat hair and a smart 😀 😄 😉 mind 😀 like twilight sparkle maby she is the human twilight sparkle's sister 😧 it all makes sense 😀 😄 😉 😊 . And by the way your videos are very good I love ❤ 😍 💖 ❣ 💕 💘 the videos you make
Perhaps she did die early on but Sunset didn’t kill her. She could of died before Sunset even came to that world. Like from an illness, accident, someone else killed her. Or maybe she died during childbirth.
Wait hold up if there is another sunset shimmer i have a conclusion you know how that twilight sparkle got rolled into celestia school because rainbow dash did a sonic rainboom that shocked twilight sparkle same with sunset shimmer that got her cutie mark but she shocked her to much and probably made her fail she begged and begged but she had too do the all the things and thats what is happening to human sunset shimmer she have been trying and trying but when pony sunset just gave up she seeked up revenge but she realizes that she doesn’t need knowledge she wants power but the other half of her wants to keep trying so they spilted on half the human sunset choosed the knowledge by the other sunset choosed power thats why we never seen the real human sunset cause she is stuck in the other school learning the pony sunset went into the portal and realized that theres a human sunset so she lied about being her and acted like she past the test thats why we see her in the school she evened showed a fake phone sep we always seen the pony sunset we nevered seen the human one and sep she got what she wanted then apologized and said sorry and learned friendship then forgot what she dicided and acted like the pony sunset and the human sunset and thats what haved left behided forever
What is SHE is the human one, which is why, quote-ish that it says she one the primsess thing in equestria girls, if i remeber right, more than once, so maybe she visited the pony world, and unalived the pony version of herself???
I think she killed it or something because of you look in the first photo she looks nice as if she was kind an popular but maybe pony sunset took advantage of that and killed her after she was how popular she is and abused her popularity that's just my theory
i have a question in a Equestria girls sunset shimmer doesn't have a human by herself because she wants to live in the human world so then sunset shimmer did not met her human thing in Equestria girls so that is why or she was in a human world and got to Equestria?
I paused on the beginning because I have a suggestion Sunset Shimmer from the Pony world had to go to the human world do you think the human world is Sunset Shimmer went to Equestria
Maybe there is an actual human Sunset Shimmer think of it like Sunset Shimmer Equestria and then the human world maybe there's a different dimension like something else in another one
Is Charlie does have a twin in the real world how the knee in the police and said come to that world they were legends Patil I cannot figure out what kind of region it will be like
I think that there is a human sunset but sunset made a deal with the regular human, sunset to swop around every day but one day human sunset fond a portal that she thought it was to the pony world but some one walked in the same time she was trying to get out and she's stuck between the universe's
OK I guess can you make a video about something that sunset likes I mean I mean she likes like so she knows we know the real sunset in our time I mean in there in their pony in the other pole and then my little pony world they all of the portal
What if sunsets human version committed suicide, or died already.
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Daniel Logue2021-09-22 20:08:11 (edited 2022-03-31 15:13:20 )
This would have been A Better Special then Holidays Unwrapped Wild Brain formley know as DHX should have Stand up for themselves against Hasbro and cancelled that Horrible Bad Crappy Hoilday Special with only 6 shorts including the finale Terrible Horrible Bad Cruel Ending of the 6th Horrible Terrible Bad Cruel Finale short O Come, All Ye Squashful and make A True Proper Finale with a Better Proper Ending.
Since she is a character in a Hasbro franchise that does mean that rules pertaining to other components of the Hasbro Multiverse apply. That being said it is entirely possible that she is a multiversal singularity, a being who has no alternate self. This is usually reserved for the realms of deities but if Sunset had a divine purpose laid out for her from the start it is possible that she was created as a singular entity to serve a purpose, linking those two worlds as you suggest. The expanded possibility is that Sunset is meant to unite more worlds, perhaps in preparation for a multiversal threat (unlikely but watching multiple generations of Hasbro IPs meet up with themselves to form a super team against a reality killer/conqueror appeals to me).
I think she is just not in the place where the equistria portal is she maybe in astrialia or japan no one knows where she could be but I had the same quistion like you to.
I think she doesn't exist bc it is possible human twilight and human sunset were friends like in the pony world but wait scratch that pony sunset only knew human twilight until the friendship games but wait sunset knew the pony twilight so I have proof now that she may not exist there are loads excuse to stop this is that human twilight and human sunset were friends well wouldn't human twilight tell her friends after the friendship games so it wouldn't make any sense for human sunset to be alive or maybe human twilight forgot human sunset idk but someone has to figure it out.
There might the pony’s and human is going to be there there is two sunsets and two twilights the episode of sunset and another sunset is not yet there yet.
I have an ide on your Dering do theory. Okey so let's say that it was just rainbodash that dreamed that she met the dering do. And the reason she lockt like that in rainbows dream was becaus she saw the cower of the book. And the reason the produser would have made the carakter like thet was becaus they now that rainbow dash was a big pony wif a big fandom of ponys that loke upp to her and her herowdods, then they culd now that that wuld be a smart choice to make Dering do locke like someone that already had shown a good influens. Way would they test difrant designs if they already now wan that clearly was working to at marketing itself with beaing al that stuff that ther cerakter was supose to be. In short therm i think that the producer/designer of the kuvreds inspired bay rainbow dash sense she was a great symbol that easy could have drawn a tension to the book so people wuld fink it lockt cool and buy it.
It was hard to exsplan way they wuld shues to madel the carekter after rainbo dash but i hope you get the point.
Fink it like way soooo many carakters in difrent films a spersely animations locke alike. Howe many tims haven't we seen a pink dress girl wiff long hear in a weird collar, way to many. But still ther being produst, because its a carakter model that wurks in marketing.
Well sawtooth sunset shimmer is a good guy now when the she helps the rainbooms befeat the dazzlings and and the rainbooms treat sunset as their freinds😉😉😉
well there no human sunset shimmer because she only one know other dimension she have synbol like yinyang it means she orignaly shimmer sunset no human
No No No No sorry Im very sorry but no... I get where you come from with this idea, but the ability to sing great is not enough of a driving character trait in this or any MLP world, because EVERYONE SINGS AWESOMELY! No no you have to go deaper, for instance rainbow Dash, Pegasus dash is prideful about ehr flying skills, he rhuman form is a ace athlete. Flying and sports both are similiar enough. No I would think in a world without magic, Sunsets ambition would drive ehr to be something like school president, I could also see her as Cheerleader captain, the hot girl everyone wnats, she love sthe admiration, the influence, she is smart and cunning, she would use both to manipulate and literally control the school with her smarts, influence and good looks. In many school based series and movies its that the jocks and otehr popular students literally have all the power, a jock bullies some nerd, the teacher slook the other way because they need him for the next big game. So I see Sunset as a popular student that raises the the schools reputation by being one of the best and using and abusing all of her influence.
I know this is immposible theoiry but hey... It's kinda too dark, what if Sunset Shimmer human world she doesn't exsist like maybe she's dead? ;-; so Sunset Shimmer pony from only who's alive and she can visit anytime to pony world or human world without caught?
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Sunset has a human verssion but no the first thing i know you guys think she has a human verssion becus of her hair color but no you in equistria girls the veowing in it color is difrent
Because there's do school the twilight come from maybe she's the school twilight come from rstu 2 school the twilight come from that mean there's a sunset shimmer another school
One thing that’s always bothered me about Sunset is just how old is she? Because she’s an adult when Celestia banished her to the human world and it’s implied at least in the movie that she was Celestia’s star pupil before Celestia started training Twilight, so that would make her basically a young adult when Twilight was a young child. Maybe I misinterpreted that but it could be the humans age more slowly than ponies, which would make sense as humans IRL age more slowly than horses. It also would make sense with the way the ponies measure time, they measure it by moons (months) while humans measure their time in years.
But anyway if so it’s possible we haven’t seen human Sunset because she’s actually a lot older than Pony Sunset, old enough that she’d be the age of the other teachers and outside the teenage girl’s social circle. Given her thirst for power I’d guess she’s a politician or an aspiring one.
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Res Dent2021-08-28 16:43:40 (edited 2021-08-28 16:44:13 )
Well, we do know that our Sunset was ambitious enough to go to another world entirely in order to succeed at what she wanted. And through her actions, magic came to the human world. Maybe human Sunset, after spending so much time wallowing in her own shortcomings, discovered some of that magic and now may be using in a similar manner. Who knows? Maybe she even found/created her own portal that gave her access to Equestria. Of course, that would then mean the two Sunsets ended up switching places.
But if human Sunset is now in Equestria, there's no telling where she might be.
The official storywriter once said that pony Sunset felt like the balance in the human world is not good when the human Sunset is present (But when both Twilights meet, there wasn't some sort of space time warp issue), so it's best for pony Sunset to go home back in Equestria, wishing her Humane 6 goodbye and so on. A very sad and painful ending, pony Sunset kind of loving her human world where she resides.
I believe that magic, when in the human world, becomes science. In Equestria Girls (the first movie), Celestia says Sunset Shimmer was her pupil, but when she did not get what she desired, she left with pride. Celestia teaches magic, which becomes science in the human world. Sunset maybe could have wanted more practicals and chemical reactions instead of writing long equations. She could have ran off, seeing as that she did not get what she wanted, she must have felt Celestia was controlling her possibilities and freedom, so she gains it in a way by forcing people to bow before her, leading to her being the school's most hated bully. Then she finds friendship as a new way of freedom and possibilities.
As Celestia's School of Magic was in Canterlot, Sunset must have run off to another place that wasn't Ponyville, but I think most likely, a faraway place, then when she somehow saw or heard, the Crystal Empire when it returned, as Celestia says she did her studies not long before Twilight. It is a place full of magic and possibilities, just what she wanted. She must have wanted to try anything, not letting anything or anyone get in her way or stop her. This must have led to her being a bully and Celestia must have found out. Then her curiosity must have gotten the better of her. She must have found the most powerful thing she had ever seen: the portal. She stepped through it and became a human, confused. She finds new people, people that had not known her and people she could now easily bully.
All of this must have happened between S3: E2 "The Crystal Empire: Part 2" and the release of "Equestria Girls". The release dates of the episodes are from November 10, 2012 to August 10, 2013, taking 9 months, at least.
This timeline brings me to Twilight. In the human world, Canterlot High takes the form of Ponyville, implying that Crystal Prep takes the form of Canterlot. This makes sense because in the places, you see people that match that place. Twilight should have started going to school at Crystal Prep with Celestia as her teacher or principal, as Crystal Prep, I say, is the human world version of Celestia's School of Magic. Crystal Prep should have been a very prestigious primary school, as in the pony world, it holds fillies. When Celestia realises that Twilight has learnt all possible in that school, she tries to think of another primary school that could push her limits in another field. She strongly recommends Twilight to go to Canterlot (The human world version of Ponyville) to Canterlot High when she becomes a secondary school student after her summer break for a temporary time. There Twilight makes some friends who she thinks are the strangest, but when Luna returns from another country, she states she desperately wants to be the principal and to be a queen alongside Celestia (in the human world, Celestia is also a queen) and she says no (again). Luna declares war, but just before the big fight, Twilight explains the magic of friendship to Luna, and she is convinced. Luna and Celestia then rule the country together and hopes that Twilight (her personal protegee) learns more about friendship. Twilight wins a great award (maybe the Nobel Peace Prize) but when she learns her time is up, she doesn't want to leave, then she speaks to the school principal (Cheerilee) to make Twilight a permanent student and Twilight promises to report her findings on friendship every week.
When Twilight finds a very long 5 page report about friendship by Star Swirl that Celestia sent her, she reads it and finds that Star Swirl left it on a cliffhanger and must have abandoned it. She is confused and cannot answer it herself, she leaves it and during a touching moment when Twilight helps the whole town learn about friendship and starts a small charity, the answer comes to her. She finishes the report with an extra 3 pages and it is sent to Celestia. Celestia receives Twilight for her to become Dame Twilight Sparkle.
Then later, Sunset Shimmer enters the human world and brings magic. She causes a magical imbalance by bringing the crown and then pony Twilight enters the portal and sees human Twilight. They band together with their friends and defeat Sunset Shimmer. They teach her about friendship. Human Twilight stays while pony Twilight leaves with her crown.
Along with the sirens and Gaia Everfree, the Mane 7 defeat the rest of the future villains, with the last one using animals, the country population and the pony versions of the Mane 6. Discord is a man who grows jealous of Celestia and Twilight and tries to cause chaos but is unsuccessful. Queen Chrysalis is the queen firefly who swarm the world population and cause a spreading virus but an affordable vaccine was developed.
I have a theory: remember how you explored the alicorn amulet and thought it was Sombra's? Well remember the book which Spike founded in the castle of the 2 sisters in season 4? Well, I think the book belonged to Chrysalis because for a start when I look at the cover of the book the first villian I think about is Chrysalis. Second, when you read the spell in the book It's corrupting you which already gives points for the owner being a villian and third: the power it self. It changes everything you wish for your desire and even though It's a little far fetched you need to admit that it kinda connects to how the CHANGElings CHANGE for what they desire.
I just had a wild thought, what if when she was a child Sunset Shimmer found a portal and came to Equestria. This would explain why she became obsessed with the Mirror Portal, subconsciously she remembers it, or its energy. It would also explain why she stayed in the Human world she was Human, to begin with. It would also explain why we haven't seen Sunset's parents. (Possibilities of her being Sunburst's sister aside). Of course, that also adds the question of where is the true Sunset Shimmer of Equestria. ... wait what if she is Sunburst there is no reason that she couldn't be a gender-swapped version of him that would explain the similarities between the two.
Solid theory. Can easily explain why Sunset is missing from the series.
My original thought on the matter had been that the pony Sunset somehow 'overwrote' her human counterpart. HOWEVER, the synapsis from that unused EqG story, along from a single frame from her IDW prequel comic gave me another idea. It's far-fetched and it sounds like a bad fanfic idea, but bear with me.
In the comic, after Celestia brought Sunset to look at the portal mirror, for a brief moment, in a single panel, Sunset saw a reflection that more closely resembled her human counterpart. If we combine that with the facts that Starswirl used the human world as a dumping ground for magical artifacts, the fact that humans are similar in personality and characteristics to their pony counterparts AND the the idea that all that magical mishap is following the main cast...
As Sawtooth said, the human Sunset would be ambitious. Now imagine this ambitious teenager that feels like she's better than everyone else. She wants to be feel powerful, to be in control... whatever. And, with such a mindset, she discovers something, be it a book, a journal or an artifact or anything like that that points her to the fact that there is a portal to a magical world conveniently located in front of this one high school. In her ambition, she might use the knowledge she's gathered to try to utilize said portal and even succeed.
But, sadly, only partially.
Instead of ending up in the other world, she ended up stuck between dimensions - that being what pony Sunset saw in that one frame in the mirror.
Pony Sunset, on the other hand, being experienced with using magic, was able to utilize the portal and come out the other end unharmed. So now we have one Sunset in one universe and another in-between. In the large scale of things, that didn't cause a break in balance.
But then enter Twilight. By provoking Twilight Sparkle, Sunset invited a lot of magic from the pony world into the human world. Balance slowly began to break and magic began to leak into a world that lacked it, especially after what Sci-Twi did. And, since Sunset exists in one world and not the other, all that foreign energy in that dimension is attracted to her, because plot reasons.
And the only way to restore balance would be for both Sunsets to go back to their own realities.
Either that, or I am waaaaay up my own ass about this xP
Well Sunset also have interest in science as we've seen in friendship games when it was Sunset against Twilight at the end of acadeca song. And since we know Sunset is stubborn and used to be selfish, and since she's smart maybe she is like human Twilight but without friends in some science university or something because no one shoved her how to have friends (and spend time with them) she became more focused on studies, I mean she was Celestia's student once
(“Here I go”) as a pony she studied under celestia, as did twilight. The mane six knew cele in the human world so why not sunset? She might’ve transferred schools because she wanted to achieve something higher. In the pony version twilight had to meet them because of what sunset did! Starting the friendship early then excepted. Sunset replaced twilight in the human version introducing sunset, breaking the friendship up between the mane 5 unlike in the PV! They wouldn’t originally know her! Sunset form HW would just be at a different school since they are teens. (Done & Done)
Without knowing our sunset’s history, like the direct events leading her to the puman world or how she got her cutie mark we can’t speculate on the missing sunset.
i’ve always thought that the human sunset shimmer lived in a different timeline, like 20 years ago or even 100 years ago but that doesn’t make sense because ponies and their counterpart are the same age
Oddly enough it's not just Human Sunset Shimmer we've not run into, there is another variable that was added into it. Starlight Glimmer. Would Starlight Glimmer fall under the same concept as Sunset Shimmer?
I heard some speculate that Sunset is actually from the human world or as I refer to it 21-C Equestria. (You know, because it's in the twenty-first century?) She must've discovered a portal to Equestria since it's been confirmed in Spring Breakdown that there is more than one portal. She suffered some sort of traumatic event in her time as an infant and when Princess Celestia stumbled upon her, she erased her memory of it all. That could by why there's no mention of the human Sunset since Sunset might actually originate from there to begin with.
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I believe that there IS a human Sunset, but meeting her would be the end of the human world series once and for all. For the elements of Harmony to exist, a balance of characters would have to exist as well which means that every pony has a human counterpart which means Sunset human is out there somewhere. She is likely a failed singer and an unhappy and unfulfilled student of some great and high up scholar and is just waiting for her time to strike and that could possibly lead her to meeting her Pony-Human counterpart and her friends and be the transition Sunset OG needs to smoothly move back to Equestria without unleashing chaos on the balance of the world and the overall story. Each Mane 6 NEEDS their Sunset and since human Sunset hasn’t shown herself yet it is Sunset OG’s duty to stay with the human mane 6 and wait for her counterpart to meet them and make the transition back to her real home in Equestria. That’s my 8 year long theory that I’m sticking with.
Well, in the Movies so far, we only heard of 2 Schools: Crystal Prepp and Canterlot High. But it would be dump to think, that there aren't more Schools or High schools in that world. Best and easiest explanation would be, that she learns on a School, that was never shown in the Movies because it is in another different part of the City, she lives in a different part of the State or even World. She could be in Manehattan, Phillidelphia, she even could be on some kind of Archeological Excavation Site or be an exchange Student for that Time somewhere else in the world. Damn, she even could be on an Academy of that Human Worlds NASA or Studies to becomes the Next President of... however that Human Country Name is. xD I mean, what is more ambitious than become President of a Land? (Yes, World Domination, but I don't think she would be THAT ambitious... without magic I mean. xD )
This just a thought, but what if the human version of sunset lived somewhere else and died, like got in an accident, got deathly sick, or even commit suicide, because as you just said she'd probably had a lot of pride and the drive to tried to control something really dangerous and got herself, or she failed and drove herself insane with so much hate and jealousy for others successful feats that she drove herself to her grave.
Interestingly Dr.wolf mentioned that there was going to be a story that explains what has become of the Sunset Shimmers of the human world a while back. Unfortunately, it was Scraped before season 9 of MLP aired. It was sad because I really wanted to know.
It is perfectly logical that there is a human Sunset Shimmer somewhere since, as it was shown, there was a human Twilight Sparkle who was somewhere else. While both It wouldn't make sense for there to be a pony Sunset Shimmer and there to be no counter part for her in another world i.e. human Sunset Shimmer.
In other words: one cannot exist in one universe and not be in another universe, unless something happened to said individual in the universe in which they originated from.
If only there was a last tv film when our Sunset Shimmer has found out about her human counterpart in the human world then our Sunset get to say goodbye to her human friends & start being friends with her pony friends at Equestria.
So I had an idea. Any pony that went to Celestia's School Of Magic goes to crystal prep. Maybe Sunset goes to crystal prep, but we just never saw her because the school is probably really big.
I think that something unfortunate happened to the human Sunset Shimmer, something bad enough to even catch a glimpse of her on the show or anything, like maybe either physically or mentally, cause just like real life, bad things happen. It's either that or maybe she's just not in the same town or country as them, for all we know Human Sunset could be in France or Europe.
I have a personal theory, it's possible that the other sunset could be in prison.... I know that sounds crazy, but it might that most likely. In the first eq. Movie, when sunset puts the crown and turns into a she-demon, she caused some damage and destruction to the school and endangered a few dozen students and mind controlled them. I'd be surprised that no one called 911 and tried to arrest sunset since everyone still disliked and distrusted her in the 2nd movie, but the police have gotten the wrong one....
My thought is that the human sunset would have gone to the pony world and be so great at magic , since the pony sunset achieved what the human sunset wanted ,maybe the human sunset did the same
Hmm…while it is possible she could also be in another city far from our main cast…which could explain the situation in Mirror Magic where Sunset tells Starlight that she has never seen anyone who looks like her
Of course not everyone could have a counterpart…they said there is no crossover from the MLP side (despite the cameo in the final song) and we never see the EQG cast in pony form nor many of the MLP cast in human form…and some who are have totally different lives like Daring Do
I have thought about this. As you did I came to the conclusion. That she must be far away from all that has happened there. We may never see her bit I could see her trying to lead a country or be working in a government position but thats all speculation. Besides I'm sure some Fan fictions played with this Idea. Who knows maybe theres a secret movie in production by Hasbro.... okay maybe not but it's always fun to guess what is happening with limited info and imagination.
At the risk of sounding like frozen 2,a bridge has two sides. If Sunset’s fate was to link the worlds,it would make sense for her to live with her counterpart and pretend to be a long lost twin or a cousin living with the family and then both seeking the power. She’s not like discord (if he doesn’t have a human counterpart,which would make sense but we can’t be sure),she still originates in one dimension and needs a pre-existing portal to cross between them instead of creating portals herself.
The other Siri could be that because sunset the pony version came From another world the longer she stayed in that human version the original sunset could have vanished because her pony counterparts stayed in that world so the other sunset could have just vanished over time because her pony sunset decided to stay there 😅
My theory is there is and she does live close, but she tends to stick to the shadows and stay away from people mostly because everybody thought she was pony sunset
Theory remember in the first equestria movie when twilight was in celestial office and she showed twilight pictures of sun set shimmer as a kid from each prom queen threw out the years , how long was sun set there , question two how old was she when she got there ? , three maybe did celestial adopted sun set at a young age when she came to equasteria ?
It is possible there's a human Sunset Shimmer living somewhere outside of Canterlot City. There are afterall some human characters that weren't shown as ponies in Equestria, like Sandalwood and Timber.
Maybe this IS the human Sunset. We have seen that the humans can come into Equestria (Obviously) so maybe the Sunset we've never seen is actually the Pony Sunset
Supposedly there was supposed to be EQG Movie where we would meet the original Sunset. It was going to play like the finale of the series. Unfortunately it was never finished and we never got to see it. I’m not sure if this is true. I remember seeing an article about it a while back but can’t find the original.
We probably won't ever know if, and that is a BIG IF, there even was a human Sunset Shimmer in the first place, considering Equestria Girls was cancelled for whatever reason; if I was the head of Hasbro I would not have cancelled Equestria Girls and ended the series on a nice note though I would still be open to having more adventures with them be worked on in the future. Also maybe there IS one, though she's moved far away with her parents and our Sunset Shimmer is merely completely unaware of her existence.
So, I've noticed in movie magic the special, Sunsets hair color is dimmed down a little... Could this because human sunset and pony sunset are becoming one? I don't think it's possible... But it could be
It can be possible that the human counterpart of Sunset doesn't even live in Canterlot, it could make sense since i don't think the world consist of only Canterlot and think there are other citys and/or towns
If Sunset was a failed musician wouldn’t she take or pose as now famous Sunset Shimmer when out and about mooching or even try to take Sunset’s place/identity later on. Oh the irony!
my headcanon was always that susnet in pony world is the bigest mystery of celestia past, she ate too much cake, got drunk one day , and an innocent stalion got some fun in the castle, then celestia hide for a while and sunset was given out for adoption, but still looked over by celestia, with overbearing influence. Fasttracked to the school of magical ponies and snaped escaping to "hooman world" but that only half of the story i am more concern about where does she live in eqd universe with no id, no magic and no money she could as well be homeless bum, not a prom queen Obviously we never seen sunset parents, but even if she live alone, where does the money come from? there is always an option that she prepared herself for the travel and took enough valuables to cover her expenses, plus we asume bits being gold coins of little value, but what if equestria simply have overbearing amount of gold and pumps bits that weigh half a kilogam each, or at least a quoter, then even few equestrian coins could cover a lot of expenses in hooman analog world. there is also the issue of principal celestia and her sister not being ancient magical horses , do they have families outside the school, or are they also immortal in any case proncipal celestia being only a school administrator and not a god like ruler of a nation might not have a chance for one night stand with a chosen guard pony and in that case there was never a sunset shimmer in eqg universe to begin with
I have a theory pony sunset was brought to canterlot for her studies. Take magic out of the picture and she would in the human world version of her home town
I heard a while ago a theory that says that human sunset shimmer is just older than pony sunset shimmer. since time doesn't really move the same way in both worlds, maybe human sunset is just an adult now. I Wouldn't have gone so far as to say that she is dead. even Moliminious talks about this idea in he's theory right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roWtUoIA45o&t=38s at time mark 3:41 of that video until the end of it.
But I do love the idea that sunset's destiny was being the bridge between worlds. It seems fitting. and true.
Now that's cool thats something and it's just... Indeed questionable 🤔. Yet the same for Twilight, she didn't known that She has her Human side until She felt a great disturbance and had to be able to go back to the Human world an rain to herself in Human form yet seeing herself Wearing glasses. But yet the same would be the same or in this cases... mysterious? If Sunset sees her human self then in her on mine and thinking; she'll have to fool human herself by sending her human self with some kind of "Message" that is something that She haven't known or rather expected?!
Keep up the great work and the awesome job really Ur doing an excellent job. #Brohoof/)
If the idea of there only being one sunset the reasoning could be that she has a parent from each world such as a farther in the human world and a mother in the pony world or vice versa
I am a huge fan of this channel so please keep making more videos like this but I now have a question of my own: pony Sunset Shimmer has now become famous(?) in the human world so would that mean that human world Sunset Shimmer would know about her already? Or did pony Sunset find her and kidnap her or something? Just a thought.
If the Human Sunset is in the human world, she could be either in another town no where near Canterlot High. Maybe a wondering teenager that has no home, no parents and no relatives and works minor wages
The writers said that there is no human Sunset because they wanted her to be her own thing. Which makes sense, as not everyone has a counterpart. Even if there was one, who says she was alive (or even born yet), at the same time as pony Sunset. After all Princess Celestia and Luna are over 1000 years old. I'm pretty sure their human counterparts aren't that old. Plus, all the EQGs are younger than their pony counterparts. Throw in the fact that the writers said that Sunset is the human world' seventh Element of Harmony, Empathy (for some reason, the human world has 7 instead of 6), and it goes with what the writers said about there not being a human Sunset, otherwise SHE would be the human world's 7th Element. And the way a red star rose up into the sky to compliment the purple star shined in the distance (seemingly representing pony Twilight), it's like she's meant to fulfill a destiny in the human world as the leader of the EQGs the way Twilight does with the Mane Six. It definitely does seem to be her destiny as you suggested.
As for Sunset killing her counterpart, that's' ridiculous. It completely goes against her character, even when she was bad (she didn't become that evil until she became a demon). Plus, she would never be able to get away with it. Even if she could somehow cover up the murder, she would have to get rid of literally everyone who knew the human Sunset. And it was made clear that everyone only met Sunset when she cam to the human world anyway.
Also, Sunset may be a good musician and good at science (academics in general really), but her real talent seems to be art. She is, after, Flanksy.
Ok so here's my theory: there's no human world. Let me explain: Let's think for a few seconds: Equestria is a huge place with possibly thousands even millions of ponies living there. And the ruler of this place is just a school principal in human world with means if everypony have a human version of them a high school in human world would contain thousands of students and teachers working there. Which in Equestria girls that isn't true infact not only did we didn't have all characters in Equestria girls there is so much characters that we don't know they even exist in Equestria and like gloriosa dassy and most of the antagonist in Equestria girls We where told that sirens were banned from Equestria to human world and every new bad guys and spells were found not so easily usually taking twilight hours even making her go to very old libraries and looking for lost peaces for hours to find the completed source and twilight is smart it really seems like they are forgotten old peoples and spells for examples: memory stone, that time repeater thingy that i don't remember the name of and like there's so many unexplained plots about magic in it. and are we going to forget how much of a tiny please human world is? And like i honestly don't think that if this world had a government they just wouldn't notice it. It's just No Way. Also we haven't seen a single government related character except of guards and bodyguards and guards for theme parks and whatever. and if a ruler of a big country is just a principal is there a some kinda god in pony world that can be the mayor of the town at least? Cause i don't think so. So what if human world's whole experience was for ponies to just hide their precious magical items without worrying of it getting used because they made it so magic doesn't work on this world and it makes sense the More we go into it. A lots of forgotten special items and people that live in human world and don't have a pony counterpart and yeah there's also a possibility that some of humans are just the descendants of creatures getting banned from Equestria And i also think that this experience happened before starsvel and him banning sirens from Equestria is the recent one. OR IS IT? There's a weird thing about sunset shimmer: she thinks she chose to go to human world but is it really true? Because in Equestria girls there was multiple times when sunset go to pony world and asked for help and there was multiple times twilight helped her too but in mlp there was just one single reference to Equestria girls and it wasn't sunset shimmer helping her in episode finale is was a memory sunset shimmer was just a friend that twilight made and where is she? Gone! She's banned. And like sunset could help so much more to twilight but she didn't and we can't tell that she didn't know because in Equestria girls it was said that twilight and sunset chat a lot and so i think maybe Equestria girls is just hallucination of what it could happen if sunset could contact her friend. And the more you look into it the deeper it gets: things that really makes her sad are loosing her friends and people hating on her because of what she has done to them "If Days are all the same maybe you are the one who should change" but it doesn't matter anymore we don't know what sunset shimmer did but everything makes more sense with this theory. There is no government it's just manipulation. And i think All the people are manipulated they are bad version of what they wher in other timelines and banned from their world because of what they've done . And like the whole identity thing getts a lot easier in this theory if all people are manipulated because having a house with that much stuff in it is impossible for a teenager to have on their own and like without this theory sirens living hundreds of years identifying them selfs as young woman doesn't make sense and it definitely needs alot of faking id cards and all stuff and could easily bring government's attention to these ladies that just don't age. It's possible that they could hide it from them for a very long time but they would find out eventually. I also really like to remember you guys that from what we know sunset shimmer started her listens before twilight meaning she is older than her but through out the series we just see twilight grow and grow yet sunset is still in highschool and if twilight is younger than sunset is she would be around 13 to 18 but she doesn't seem that young at the end of the series she looks 21 or so (when i say the end of series i don't mean that part when they are all old and grown up i just mean when they defeated the enemies for the last time) I have way more evidence but I'm tired and my brain just feels tired now But I feel like this theory just fills too many plot holes to be wrong (Also English is my second language so sorry if i misspelled something here and there 🙃)
Sorry for joining in late, but I guess the right question must be "where is equestian Sunset Shimmer from and does this place have a human counterpart"
What would the alternate timelines look like in the human world who would be the villains and I just wanted to say that I love your Channel and that My Little Pony taught me all about friendship and that is why I have so many friends today
I have a theory Twilight study science in the human world she didn’t have any friends but wasn’t that also because she was far away from her friends in the human world so she couldn’t meet them and she went to a seoperate school, If we go off my knowledge , what if sun set is far away somewhere else,she’d have to be going to a school farther away than crystal prep since twilight was from there , like you said maybe she got obsessed with music and started touring around the world, or maybe sun set killed her other twin , or maybe she convinced the other sunset that she her long lost sister and she changed information so that it looks as if they’re actually sisters , that saying they have the same DNA so if they did a DNA test they be the same or really close to say they’re twins , Or say she they’re cousin , What do you think?
I said this in another video too... there is a possibility that human sunset never exists... Think of it this way... by how the show puts flash sentry's love life it is xlear that the human flash is unloved with sunset and his pony counterpart is in love with twilight... even if the human is in love with twilight, sci-twi has clearly chosen timbre... Either way... if both twilights were to have offsprings they would be different because they're fathers aren't each others counterparts... we can apply this equation to sunset's parents... maybe that falling in love with the same counterpart thing didn't apply 🤔
Are you gonna do any more theories on The alternate dimensions that you have not visit yet because I really want you to do that because I really want to know how all of this happened in those alternate dimension
actually Starlight glimmer also dose not have a human form... In the episode magic mirror, Starlight had came to the mlpeg world but everyone said they have not seen her before but when Twilight came...Pinkie asked her if she has a twin sister and a twin dog somewhere in the world....maybe Sunset also dose not have a human form... See microchips, he is an important character in mlpeg but I never got to see him in pony world...
I have a theory in this video https://youtu.be/-xvadfuntmo at 2:14 what if the fish is sunset's counter part? it could be possible that her counter part turned into a fish cause of the magic
What if she's a pony in human world and she doesn't notice that human sunset is related with her? Or she's like real life horses intelligent, so she wouldn't be visiting human sunset actively?🤯
What if there is a human Equestria Sunset Shimmer and a pony Equestria Sunset Shimmer and they both know eachother exist. They could've been working together the whole time behind everyone's/everypony's backs? Sunset Shimmer would've needed help to steal Twilight Sparkle's crown in the first Equestria Girls movie. Wouldn't she?
What ifthe alternate sunset syimmer also went to another world so maybe instead of there being a sunset in the human world there is secretly one in the pony world BOOOM!!
Sawtooth I have a video suggestion. if the rain boom was made by Rainbow Dash then how come Rainbow Dash isn’t the leader of the main six instead of twilight
Once u made theory about Sunset shimmer becoming an alicorn right after she sang the My past is not today song. But later, mlp eg new episode released which is the Spring Breakdown. In this episode, Twilight, sunset and rainbow dash get stuck over an Island and they travel through a portal on the island that leads to equestria. In that, sunset didn't become an alicorn which shows that back then when she sang that song, she didn't become an alicorn.
Werent you the one that long ago had the idea that since pony sunset is older than pony twilight there's a chance that original human sunset was already an established adult doing grown up things no longer a student when pony sunset came into the world and became a student? Or was that a different brony theorist?
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Time Lords2021-08-31 03:17:40 (edited 2021-08-31 03:19:08 )
Maybe the human world sunset is somewhere in between campeverfree and chs or the human sunset is pony sunset’s neighbour
It’s just my theory we’ve seen pinkie pie’s house before the battle of the bands
I remeber your the secret alicorn princess well you said that cadance was a baby while the story was going on soo there is one alicorn i think that princess could be - princess amore cadance's mom it actually could be her
What if the human sunset goes to a different school. We never saw sunburst or starlight and if sunset shimmer is sunbursts sister maybe their home in the mlp world is another school in the human world.
Blueberry but maybe the one that went to the human world that has was actually from the human world and had another portal from him there it's possible unlikely but there's a chance I don't know sunset tomorrow
Maybe... maybe Sunset from Equestria (before she was reformed) killed the Sunset at the Human world. But why would she kill the Sunset from the Human world? Because she wanted to be the one to connect both worlds?
what is there is no humen sunset prencess luna said sussets world is very diffrent from ours so what if there is no humen sunset but radher a pony sunset luna said sunsets world what if our sunset is the humen sunset and the real queshqen is where is pony sunset it filles a lot of plot holes like where has sunset lived all these years or how is she going to school it makes sence so my theory is that sunset is from the humen world and my queshqen is where is pony sunset
If Equestria Girls would continue at least ONE more special, the writers should cook up a story based on the whereabouts of Human Sunset Shimmer. It'll be a very good and interesting way to revitalize the series! 😃
I also wonder the same about Starlight Glimmer. In the special where she went to the Human World, she needed to stay low. When that eventually failed, people were shocked to see her. To me, this feels like they know she's from Equestria, but how?
I've always considered the possibility that there was a human Sunset, but that she either died as a child or was in an accident that took her life. So the connection was there, she just wasn't around. And due to the loss of their daughter, Sunset's human parents moved far away to put as much distance between themselves and the memory of their daughter as possible so there was no chance of them running into pony-turned-human Sunset. Imagine the shock!
Theory: We probably haven’t met her counterpart cause she probably is somewhere else and never bothered to go to Sunset’s school, even if she did see the big explosion. Or maybe she was somewhere too far away to see it. Let’s see she was Princess Celestia’s pupil so maybe she is someone’s pupil as well. Maybe like Sapphire shores, or maybe a president or mayor? Remember canter-lot isn't the only place in Equestria we have so many other territories. so conclusion is maybe she is a far away place with some person full of power or will.
I'm wondering why there are so many characters in the human world who aren't seen in Equestria. 🤔 Do those humans even have pony counterparts and if so, why haven't we seen them? I'm glad to see another theory about Sunset Shimmer and whether or not she has a human counterpart, but I'm also curious about the humans whom we've never seen pony counterparts to.
Honestly, I can see Human Sunset as being/aiming to be a power hungry politician (maybe coming from a family of like minded individuals who put a HUGE emphasis on public "face"). Ends up in some sort of school related scandal, maybe related to pony Sunset, and ends up being forced to move schools out of shame or public embarrassment to her peers and probably family.
Actually, Hasbro already announced that they had plans to reveal the human Sunset in the finale of EQG, but it was unfortunately canceled which was really sad.
There's also an EQG movie script/synopsis floating about for an unproduced finale to the series that features Human Sunset, written by one of the official writers.
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No One2021-08-28 02:45:03 (edited 2021-08-28 02:46:48 )
I liked the idea that you portrayed with her cutie mark and its colors proving the idea of there not actually even being an alternate world version of her and her being kind of like Discord
I like to think that the human Sunset was the principal of Canterlot high before Celestia(as we don't have the age for the two sister principals, it's plausible that they've been principals easily for a decade or more before pony Sunset first showed up). Maybe human Sunset is an octogenarian living in a retirement home somewhere?
I always just assumed the human Sunset Shimmer was out there just in another part of the world, like how there was another Twilight but she went to a different school, hence why we never see or hear from her.
I think it’s possible that Sunset never had a human counterpart to begin with. Half of the students at Canterlot Hight don’t even seem to have pony counterparts anyway.
Apparently the finale to the equestria girls series was supposed to be centered around the human sunset, if they didn't cancel the series we might have gotten an answer. I'm not sure if this is true but I really wish they didn't end off the series without giving us a proper finale. Hopefully we'll get an answer to this question soon ☺️
But a question I'm wondering about is how does she own/rent an apartment or even work because she wasn't born there so how she get a job does she have a work visa or student visa
For me I had a theory a while back and even comented on it on dr.wolfs channel when he brought the topic. So here it is:
What if the awnser was staring back at us from the start.
What is the Sunset we have always known is the human Sunset. That at a young age she ended up in equestria and since she was really young she doesn't remember anything of it as a human.
Hi Sawtooth! Can you make a video about the empty timeline we saw with Starlight Glimmer? I honestly think it's Cozy Glow's timeline because who else could it be?
It can be really anything, since according to the butterfly effect, even the smallest change in the past can make a huge difference in the result. It is entirely open to interpretation.
Watching your videos is a wonderful start to my day
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Karl Hnedkovsky2021-08-28 11:56:51 (edited 2021-08-28 11:58:22 )
I'm guessing Nameless didn't tell you this, but the rules of a multiverse dictate, that every living thing existing within it, always has a parallel counterpart, no matter how small or big, due to the need for the balance of energy. The only beings, that do not have counterparts are those, who exist outside the multiverse! Those, who were born before its creation. (just like our friendly multiverse encyclopedia, Nameless.) Meaning Sunset definitely has a counterpart! Where though? 🤷♂️
Twilight was not from Canterlot but sent to school there because of her magic. Same could be said of human Twilight. Hunting magic led her to Canterlot. The question is where did Sunset come from before she was sent to Canterlot to study magic under Celestial? Sunsets human version may still be in human equivalent since there was no magic to send her to Canterlot.
Well, there are multiple accounts of humans that don't have pony counterparts (that we know of). So perhaps there are ponies that don't have human counterparts. And if that's the case, perhaps there is no human Sunset Shimmer. It could also be the case that regardless of her history, human Sunset may have just ended up in another location. For example, the "Humane" 6 live in Canterlot. Before that, Twilight lived at Chrystal Prep (or whatever city that was)
What if she somehow discovered the portal before everyone else, and became trapped in Equestria because she couldn't find her way back home. She hides from everypony and studies magic, hoping she can find some sort of spell that could send her home
the sunset we know could be the human sunset who got transported to equestria when she was really young, and then smth couldve happened to equestrian sunset without us knowing.
thats what i was wondering. thanks for the video man, take some more rests and enjoy your day/noon/night
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Faris Ismail2021-08-28 03:27:40 (edited 2021-08-28 03:28:37 )
This is exactly what I thought when the first time I watched mlp Equestria girls,😁I was like"if there a human version of the ponies,so where is the human version of sunset shimmer 🤔" anyways keep up the good work 👍🏻
I think that she'd be studious but not to where she has no friends and lives in the Human World equivalent of Manehattan. She'd probably ace Math, Science, and Historybeing the star student in everything except for say Psychology, maybe she's even in the Human World equivalent of Starlight and Sunburst's hometown.
yet we may never know what happened to Sunsets shimmer's human counter part cause Hasbro decide to end Equestria girls on holidays unwrapped which was horrible not gonna lie i wish we could of seen her counter part and see a better ending of equestrian girls like all of them Graduating from School and going to Collage
I'm actually writing a fanmade sequel for eg, and it includes many side characters becoming smth and also a new one thats gonna have a big role on the story, also the whole thing is about that the human world actually had magic before and ppl actually have wings and magic without the pony ears ofc(and that was basically before the gen of mane 6/7 was born) and celestia and luna used to rule that world (pretty much it will have a different name from equestria) then an evil queen of some land has strong magic with great knowledge how to use it, starts stealing more and more magic from citizens as she was heading to the sisters land to rule it cuz its known for its great magic ,but when they knew she's a serious danger they tried to protect their citizens by casting a spell that would isolate them from the other lands that this evil lady already took over (so like they become almost invisible like if someone passes thru their they just teleports to the other side of the world, its kinda complicated srry) and in order to do that they have to ask all of their citizens for their magic so that they will be safe and no one will use it for evil in their land, but sorrowfully this queen stole their magic already and the only thing that she couldn't take over was the sisters land cuz it already disappeared, then basically the sisters have no magic now but at least their land is protected so they contact all of the governments to tell them to keep everything secret from the upcoming generations, then when the mane 6 were born the spirits of harmony were transfered to them, and when sunset brought the element of magic to the world its like their magic was reactivated becuz the element was a replacement, and as u did say sunset keeps the two worlds connected and balanced like she represents harmony or smth, then ofc the spell of the world protection was temporary so the girls find out abt the secret of the "2 sisters principals" and the spell goes off and they face the evil queen and stuff, then it would be fun to see the girls or the citizens basically get used to their magic and wings and their surroundings and to mention there ARE wonderbolts and many other species and creatures and even changelings and discord (he's gonna be smth) and that's basicly the plot!
What if, Sunset Shimmer actually was originally from the human dimension? It could be a reason that Celestia has that portal. Sunset Shimmer and Celestia could have worked on the portal themselves and before they did, they were good friends since they did have journals to each other. Celestia told her how to help make the portal and Sunset came through but as a pony. And, Sunset could have learned all of her magic from Celestia. That could explain how "original human Sunset" was never mentioned. The Sunset we know and love could be the original.
I weirdly think that actual human sunset is dead but not from pony sunset. I think she might've when she was younger maybe killed herself or got some sickness of something that had killed her. There's not much evidence but its a cool idea- and dark.
I think the pony sunset was only on the first equestria movie But the rest of the movies and equestria girls series where she's a part of the main was the human sunset, because of the difference between the two personalities but I'm not sure
My theory is that since pony sunset lives in the human world, human sunset may have discovered a portal to equestia and now lives there, she could be the sunset we see in the final episode of FIM
I think there is an original human sunset shimmer out there to be honest & Also I’ve always wondered why we haven’t seen the original human versions of the Cyrons (the Dazzlings) (Sorry for the bad spelling, not my strong suit)
Random facts: the power of friendship in the human world was actually the same power as the nuke( as well the power of music in rainbow rocks has the same power as the nuclear arsernal)
very interesting question I don't even know who knows the answer to this it is possible that there is one of them but it would be interesting to watch the video where the two characters meet or meet , but that video is very good . 👍👍👍👍👍🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
What about Starlight Glimmer? She went to the human world but there was no counter part for her. In Equestria she divided poeple making them think they have no talents. So if there is a counter part for her. Does that means she did the same thing in the human world?
This was going to be the plot of the cancelled final Equestria Girls season 2 special. What happened to the Human Sunset Shimmer? But DrWolf001 has theorised that when Pony Sunset first opened the portal it cost her Human counterparts existance. And what if the only way to bring the Human Sunset Shimmer back was for Pony Sunset shimmer to return to Equestria and destroy the portal closing off both dimensions from eachother. When you think about it this story has a lot of potential and would be a great finale for the not only Equestria Girls but G4 in general. I hope Hasbro decides to create the final special for us Bronies.
So Boulder Media just announced today that they're hiring animators for a pony related project coming up. Here's hoping it will be the EG finale. We may find out soon.
@Leon Smith based on their poster it maybe pony live 2.0 - I hope not and someone said in the comments its just for another hasbro show but boulder media in the past said if they would have chance they surely will like to animate for mlp eg season 3 and they were animating summer shorts so maybe its chance that is for new season mlp eg season maybe
What I like to believe is that the sunset of the human world changed her appearance so that’s why we don’t see another sunset as that sunset doesn’t look like our sunset
Well it's possible that the two Sunsets are not even the Same (Physical)Age, I mean if the Dazzlings/Sirens lived in the time of Starswirl the Bearded over 1000 Years ago, and were sent to the Human World so long ago, and yet they were still Alive & still Teenagers by Rainbow Rocks despite being over 1000 Years old, it's possible that a flaw in the magic that allows Beings from Other Worlds to take on Transformations that allows them to blend in with whatever World they travel to, may also have a side effect on the Aging Process for them, but they might resume aging at a Normal rate upon returning to their Home World(I mean we're Not talking like True Immortality here, just hitting the Pause Button on the Aging Process and nothing more), in the Comics we saw that Sunset was relatively close to the ages of Shining Armor & Cadence while Twilight was still just a little Filly, meaning that Sunset is close to(but still less than) a Decade older than Pony Twilight, and if she entered the Mirror Portal and became a Human Teenager at sometime nearly a Decade before the events of EQG1, and if there was a Side Effect that caused her to Stop Aging, then she would still be stuck looking like a Teenager this whole time despite the fact that she's closer to Cadence & Shining Armor's ages(and how else could someone from Another Dimension have gone through the process of establishing a Full/Legal Identity in a Modern Human World setting in such a short amount to time), now if Sunset had a Human Counterpart in the Human World, who did NOT have some bizarre Magical Whatever happening to the Aging Process for her, it's possible that by today the Human Sunset is actually a full grown Adult close to Shining Armor & Cadence's Ages, and she's living her own life in a far away place no where near Canterlot High this whole time, now imagine if Human Sunset became a some kind of Teacher(maybe Science) at Canterlot High, and Pony Sunset was in her Class!
my guess would be because sunset shimmer was before twilight and was banished from equestria by princess celestia who's to say she wasn't originally at that school and then either dropped out or kicked out by the principle and is now living her life in jail or stuck at home?
this is something from a timeline, in cutie re-mark could you see that when Chryslis took over Equestria, Fluttershy & Pinkiepie still had their same cutie mark :( How, please reply or make a video or something??
I have my own theory pony twilight = human twilight are twilight's counter part but when sunset went to the human world the world's dis balanced them. but when twilight came to the human world the world's were balanced. but after that pony twilight went to equestria so the worlds were again disbalanced . then since pony twilight had gone to the human world then turning sunset into pony twilight's counterpart (not human counterpart. pony twilight's HUMAN counterpart is HUMAN twilight but pony twilight's COUNTERPART is sunset). and since pony twilight's counter part is now sunset, so sunset's COUNTERPART is Human twilight. So sunset has no HUMAN counterpart, because she is her own HUMAN counterpart because she lives is the HUMAN world.
I JUST REWATCHED THE FIRST FEW MINUTES OF THE LEGEND OF EVERFREE ( 4TH EQUESTRIA GRLS MOVIE ) AND SOME THING TRIGGERED ME TWILIGHT HAD A DREAM IN WHICH MIDNINGT SPARKE TELEPORTED THE MANE 7 INTO AN UNKNOWN DIMENSION WHAT IS THAT CULD IT BE ANOTHER TIME LINE WHEN STARLIGHT TRIED TO STOP THE RAINBOOM ??
EDIT : THE THEORY OF SRATSWIRL IN HOOMAN WORLD LOL XD BTW THE THEORY WAS AMAZING
I think that if their was a human sunset shimmer that means that sunset the from equestria would have to go back and that another sunset would have to learn the ways of friendship but that would also mean sunset would have to give up her necklace to that another sunset before she left for equestria saw I think that would happen
Is it possible that our sunset shimmer is the original human sunset shimmer. Ok like hear me out. At one point during sunset's training she finds the portal and steps through. She then finds the human sunset and she become jealous of the idea of magic so she gets pony sunset to take her through the portal and in return gets pony sunset introuble. Pony sunset gets taken somewhere and so the sunset we know is the human one who wanted to join the worlds so she can show the humans that they are more than what they were told.
What if all the Equestria is Magic went to the human world because seems like all the magic disappeared from the trailer because we never see Twilight close the portal to the human world
I have a theory that if human sunset comes up the pony sunset has to go back to Equestria because there has to ecual because there can't be two sunset's because it's going to confusing so pony sunset has to back to Equestria because there's one pony twilight and there's a human twilight and pony sunset and when human sunset comes pony sunset could finally go back home
I don't think their is a human sunset, I think the original sunset is from the human world but when she was a little filly she got sent to the pony world. And, the sunset shimmer from the pony world lives far away and no one knows where she is, or that she even exists.
I believe there is a human sunset shimmer is out there and I think her life will be like Twilight sparkle.
Also can you do the (pony of shadows) since Starswirl the beard and the main six sent him to another dimension. Just like the sirens where is the human pony of shadow?. 🤨🤨🤨🤨
Well twilight did not go on rarity,pinkie pie and the other’s school and in the human world or Pony world But… sunset and twilight was in the same school in the Pony world so sunset probably go’s to crystal hoof Or she wasn’t the best so she moved to another school like she did in the human world kinda
MaybeSince it is the only oneBecause she might not come from Equestria because star light glimmer didn’t come fromThe equestrian so maybe since it just came from Equestria land human life and sort of
this is my p.o.v of this i think that the human school represent ponyvill and we never saw sunset in ponyvill so she from another place so human sunset is in another school. easy😏
Sawtooth i hab idea do a all timeline bilin how diy win, Do a nightmare moon how she win i now celestia will now she will be back in ponyville how celestia will win if she is in the moon i now it wont lass she will be free. And that how discord will win and see lona in the timeline.
If it has anything to with The Mandela Effect then the memories my put her someplace where pony sunset never was like in Back To the Future 2. Where their was docs and 2 mantys had to carefull about the that history them.
Or scrambling the other half of the human Sunshine shimmer is probably at a different country plus like the other school of the human world of it besides we don't even know why I like Twilight was in a different School so probably Sunshine shimmer is at another country
So i think sunset is in a nother school i mean if human twilight Is in a nother school who said human sunset isn't in another school and there is also no human starlight so mean's that sunset and starlight maybe in the same school all i can say is that she is just like Twillight living her live in a nother school but she never go to the canterlot high school so she never meet the main 6
what-ever happen with Adagio Dazzle, Sonata Dusk, and Aria Blaze evenly meet Human Adagio Dazzle, Human Sonata Dusk, and Aria Blaze evenly show so up.!? Whatta About Sunset Shimmer to find Human Sunset Shimmer.!? Which real Starlight Glimmer meet Human Starlight Glimmer... Just that total like Twilight Sparkle visiting Human Twilight Sparkle, especially Spike even see dog.!?
..... I like the ideas of the human sunset is dead or non existent. The human sunset could have been killed in a car accident since there are cars and many stupid ways to die besides murder
kinda a old vedeo so i don't why i bother, but. age is a funny thing between the world Celestia and Luna are tousand years old but as there was no magic in the other they are women in there thirties. while snip and snails are the age of the crusaders there the age of the main six in the other and i could i sworn i noticed miss cake as a student while she is a mother in her late fourtees in the magic one the human studentswe never seen a counter for in the pony world could also be young fouls or even elderly in the other. I am not that into equestra girls but i got the impresion we never or rarely seen the homes or parents of the main 6.
So here is my take Sunset Shimmer 's human counter is the one that took her in and as a ..ahum more riper and possible maried women we would not recoinise her as life exprience made her into a total diffent person.
in short the real human Shimmer has a diffent age so they don't compeet with each other.
i really liked your idea about Sunsets cutie mark representing two halves of two worlds. i actually have my own theory about Sunset. while its shown that Sunset ran away to the human world from equestria in the comics. we see her immediately have no trouble walking on two legs and adapt to human ways of life so much quicker than Twilight did. what if the Sunset we know was not born in equestria and instead is fully human and as a infant somehow fell through the mirror portal ending up in equestria as a unicorn, then raised by Princess Celestia,
She is quite academic, as shown when she went against human Twilight. I also like to think that she was the complete opposite to pony Sunset, being the way pony Sunset is now from the beginning in the human world.
She could be out there, doing the things pony Sunset wanted from the very beginning, but got it the way Sunset abandoned - hard work, dedication, and developed healthy pride in that work. She could've followed in Starswirl's footsteps, like Twilight did with Celestia. But could've rebelled against him for a different reason - his stubbornness and selfishness. She learned about that and wanted to do better.
Sunset is shown to be smart, and even though less driven by academics, ambitious enough to keep up with them. She probably is a gifted student with a bad ego and musician on the side as a human counterpart.
what always comes in my mind is that most of the time sunset satisfies other ponies, that you can come as long as your doppelganger in other world is not there...like to starlight
Okay hear me out, my theory is she was expelled in middle school resulting in her leaving the city that housed both high schools.
She most definitely still acts like first EG movie sunset, but worse. She never truly had friends and is completely controlling over the people in her life. She probably also tried to change her look to differentiate herself from pony Sunset.
Theory 2 of mine is that she is obsessed with figuring out who this imposter living her life in a different town, living a life she wishes was hers (let’s say that started during EGRR). She would try to change her appearance as to live a different separate life to what pony Sunset has.
She would still have controlling issues when it comes to people in her life, she might just shut herself in a home so no one can see her again. But something in the back of her mind is nagging her that she is the imposter and pony sunset is the real one (that would happen after EGFG).
I'm inclined to believe that there is an equal pony/human counterpart, but given the number of characters exclusive to their respective worlds, I can also see that there may just not be equivalent versions in both worlds. Aside from the main casts, a handful of fan favorite background characters, and Flash Sentry, there's not a lot of crossover. Now this could just be because the creators weren't going to painstakingly recreate everyone, but it also would kind of rob each Universe of its individuality and history. Perhaps the stuff we see are all the crossover these universes actually have with one another. By pure happenstance, there are a number of people with similar traits at the exact same time in each universe. Is Principal Celestia really 1000 years old? I doubt it. We don't even know what the human world refers to the land they live on, do we? They certainly don't live in Homosapia (Unless they do?). Not to mention that with the lack of magic until recently, the entire world is completely different and its history would reflect that in every aspect. We may actually just have the One in a Million chance of converging similarities between these two universes for however long before they start more noticeably diverging.
technicaly, pillars brought magic to human world when they dumped sirens there, or whoewer threw that memory stone to there but that one did litteraly nothing until it was found while we could assume sirens were somewhat active
also, Sunset might just made original human Sunset leave area by some means, not neccessarily kill but that is more unlikely than that or that she lives just away from where is story centered
Honestly, I think we were always looking at the human Sunset Shimmer. If you really think about. She knew more about the human world then any other and she knew what she needed to rule over it. I think, she stumbled onto the portal as a young child. What a world to find where you could be a pony then just wanting one?! Celestia found her, took her under her wing, and basically watched her grow up after teaching her so much. She was the only one (other then Celestia) that knew about the portal as well because she already came out of it. Her " pony parents" could of adopted her after the Pony Sunset Shimmer vanished too. This would be their way of getting their child back and why they are constantly overbearing to her. Also, her being extremely smart, she knew she wasn't a pony, and thus why she lashes out. Over all, it might just be a childhood trauma she can never remember.
Sunset's musical career did seem a bit farfetched. The majority of teenagers in our community know how to play an instrument, most commonly the piano or guitar, and let's be honest, everyone included in the main casts can sing well. It might have even been some sort of criteria for the voice actors to be able to sing. I have an idea though.
What if she DID follow into magic? From the evidence we have, magic doesn't exist in the human world. Or.. maybe it does?? Perhaps it just isn't normalized like it is in the pony realm. Like in real life, there are many who believe magic exists, and we just don't have access to it. Sunset, driven by her thirst for power, could've easily gotten involved in cult activities or her own deep research.
If either of these possibilities are true, she could be stuck in limbo or even dead due to lack of understanding. It doesn't necessarily have to be near Canterlot High. We're supposed to consider CHS as the Ponyville of the human world and CPA as Canterlot, right? The human mane 5 had lived in Ponyville, and Twilight came from Canterlot due to Celestia's orders. There are the exceptional characters like the Principal of CPA and Cadence. But everything else does make sense. (Personally I feel like it would've made more sense for the Mayor of Ponyville to be the principal rather than Celestia but I think at the time the writers didn't even have CPA in mind so they put the pony with the greatest authority as the principal) Sunset however had no official background in the Pony world, we'd just assume she'd be from Canterlot or even as Sawtooth had previously mentioned in a different video, the same village Starlight and Sunburst. Still, we don't know where she was from, which means we can't pinpoint her counterpart's location.
I'm just saying, magic could very much exist in this dimension, just hidden away or even once again brought from another like the Memory Stone or the Sirens. And human Sunset would involve herself with it, but her impatience and pride would help lead to her own destruction; figuratively, of course, but it might just be realistic too-
I honestly feel like she may be the only one. Same with Starlight Glimmer. Maybe those two are connected in someway and one needs to be in the human world and one needs to stay in the pony world. That’s how I’ve always thought about it in my head and it makes sense!!
I don't think a human counterpart of Sunset exists. The first idea in the video makes a lot of sense I agree with that how she connects the two worlds which is also her destiny.
I actually think she actually stayed at canterlot high. When pony sunset came she took her place and put her somewhere far away. I think she acted just like pre reformation sunset which is why people didn’t notice a major change. Thing is that I forget exactly where (maybe the friendship games) someone asks sunset about a human world version of her, and she says something along the lines of “you don’t want to know” or “it’s complicated” which means that she met or knew about human world sunset. Probably looking into her and what she does in secret, watching her until ready to take her place.
This comment is completely irrelevant to the video, but I’d like to suggest another big question.
Why is the element of magic twilight’s cutie mark, even years before twilight ever existed? Whether you chock it up to destiny or not, it’s a question we’ve asked since the dawn of time, and it doesn’t help that it’s not just the element itself. The tree of harmony itself, for one. But there’s something else that could put the puzzle together. The spirit of harmony. Possibly the one putting the whole puzzle that is the show together, and taking a physical-ish form in the form of sparkly twilight (heh)
Or, maybe, it isn’t the spirit who takes twilight’s form, but twilight who takes the spirit’s form.
How? Well, let’s say the spirit of harmony saw the future, and was supposed to make it reality, by establishing the barer of the element of magic. Time passes, and eventually, it chose twilight sparkle. Why? Simply put, she was the best candidate. As for the others, they just fell into place, and the spirit of harmony could leave them alone, for the most part, but the barer of magic could not be messed up. One wrong move could send twilight the completely wrong path. So, the spirit manifested twilight’s body to match its own, albeit temporarily without the wings. Twilight could’ve originally looked a lot different, but because of the spirit, she looks the way she does today, even down to her cutie mark. Which speaking of, any appearances of twilight’s cutie mark wouldn’t be her mark, but the spirit’s mark.
I know, it’s a long shot, but it’s fun to think about. Although this headcannon could absolutely suck…
After they cancelled season 3, the creators confirmed that she doesn't have a human counterpart. Like Discord, she only exists in one world. But I wish they didn't cancel season 3 so that we could see her human counterpart and how she would've affected our Sunset's life. She would've probably went back to Equestria and leave the human world for the human Sunset. That would've been a sad but beautiful ending to the EQG series
A nice theory. If the humans version of Sunset Shinmer was to grab onto something I thinks it would have been something along the lines of politics. Her goal was power, its what drove her to extremes. Still being a teenager her political career would only just be starting.
I think maybe, since we've already seen the crystal empire and canterlot as schools where you meet most characters (even side characters) maybe there are other schools with more side characters only seen once or twice? like, a school for manehattan, fillydelphia, etc.
We never really know where Sunset lived before her studies with Celestia, except for your theory of her being sunburst's brother, so maybe she was from another city, and that's where she lives now, for instance, since canterlot and the crystal empire are schools in the city/town/province/state/area, we can assume that equestria is that, I'm just going to say "area". so human sunset could live anywhere in "earth equestria" or the "area"
To support my theory that equestria is a certain area in the human world, canterlot is a big city in equestria, but the crystal empire is very far away from there, in the snowy atlantic or something, or at least was, showing how far away the two of them are. and in the human world, as said in the friendship games, crystal prep is "in the city" and it shows that human twilight took a bus to get to and from canterlot high, it shows that crystal prep and canterlot are far away. but they never show anywhere in between. so the other cities in equestria could either be schools in the human world or certain smaller areas near schools with names from places we hear in the show, friendship is magic.
If that theory is true, then sunset could be somewhere in the human world going to school/in an area where she lived in equestria BEFORE she met and studied with Princess Celestia.
However, if that were true, then like Twilight was drawn to canterlot and met the mane 5 and sunset in the friendship games, then fate would have it that sunset might hear about how well the students at canterlot high are doing academically, and she would go there to enroll or find the techniques, just like how pony sunset went to go to Celestia's school of magic to learn from her.
in conclusion, my theory about where human sunset is, is that she is a rich, near-snob who gets what she wants, but unlike pony sunset, she has the earthly means to do it, money. so she might not use violence, but she definitely isn't the nicest person. but she does seek knowledge and wants to learn as much as she wants, when she wants it. and she lives in an area/goes to school in where the equivalent of a big city in equestria is/would be like manehattan or somewhere like that.
If there are any flaws to my logic, please let me know, but I think I have a pretty basic idea of who human sunset is and where she lives/goes to school.
I don't think we've ever seen the yin yang symbol in equestria. If it doesn't exist in Equestria, that would most likely mean that Sunset's destiny was always to end up in the human world.
Hey sawtooth have u ever wondered how the crystal ponies would look like in the human world or why ponies don’t use phones or why the humans are colourful and not normal skin tone? Also I love your videos!!!
I have a theory that incorporates not only the human sunset but also the human version of Starlight, Sunburst, moondancer, and lightning dust. They are all students of Dodge Junction Reform School. And LD was the most recent to be sent there, as she was originally meant to represent crystal prep at the friendship games, but got expelled, so was replaced by her cousin indigo zap.
If we go with the theory that Sunset was Sunburst's sister, then logically she would still be his sister in the human world... Sunburst/Starlight grew up in a place very far away from Canterlot and Ponyville, so the human-world equivalent of it should also be distant. So human Sunset is probably just... Too far away from Canterlot High for us to ever see her.
if we're going by that, then that'd probably be close to where human Starlight is too, since there aren't actually cutie marks or anything in the human world (there are on clothing, but they don't seem to REALLY effect anything), Starlight would probably have stayed near there or something since there'd be no reason to start the village thing.
Well in the movie I’m pretty sure it took place in the crystal empire so maybe the human sunset went to crystal prep but dropped out to go for a music career and failed miserably which explains why human twilight wasn’t to shocked to see sunset in the games
I like the idea of human Sunset studying science. Maybe she got so ambitious she took up on a dangerous experiment that costed her her life. Or at the very least disfigured her quite a bit. It would parallel how our Sunset took on dangerous magic that overwhelmed her and lead to disaster.
She could’ve died of natural causes, been run over by a vehicle, fell down an elevator shaft, or any number of other ways. Hell, she could’ve been eating a cucumber, stepped on a rake, and got it jammed into the back of her throat causing her to choke to death. I’ve seen that on “100 Ways To Die”. Or she could’ve had some sort of accident that landed her into an irreversible coma.
The Cutiemark theory seems plausible... But there's one thing we saw in an Equestria Girls Episode... We don't know for certain if that's THIS WORLD'S version of Sunset, it seems as though this copy of her was killed... So, the killing possibility is undetermined.
For years i’ve always wondered why we haven’t seen the other sunset shimmer that is one of the biggest questions if there is another sunset I wonder how the pony sunset would react with she see’s other counterpart
There is also the theory that two people from two different universes cannot exist in the same spatial reality and the same interstitial plane. When sunset shimmer went to the human world, human sunset shimmer would be paused and fade from existence for as long as pony sunset shimmer or p.s.s for short was in the same interstitial plane, H.S.S. would return when P.S.S. left the human realm.
I love your theory. And if you want to make more videos, how about a video about My little pony a new generation? All the theories you could talk about. Think about it. It is a great idea.🦄❤️🎥🍿
I think that Sunset really could have removed her human self from Canterlot High, I think she could have sent away human Sunset on a bus/trip to a place she knew she herself wanted to go, a place where Human Sunset can be powerful and in charge of her surroundings (potentially so she can get more info on the human world, and so that they can be pen pals like Tirek and Cozy Glow)
Y'know, I have been thinking up some of the EqG versions of some of the villains, like if King Sombra and the Storm king are crime leaders and Tirek was an old enemy of Principal Celestia who may be related in some way to Principal Cinch
I always knew something was fishy with sunset , also because the series of EG finished with no ending . That made me think but did sunset go to the human world or the pony world? We only know in the first EG movie, sunset shimmer after being defeated stayed in the human world , but nothing else.
You're kind of right Sawtooth Sunset mentioned She's not a Monster when Twilight from the Pony World assume Sunset was gonna harm Spike with a sledge hammer so she wouldn't Murder Human Sunset
You know, if Starswirl is supposedly dead in the human world, just another famous dead scientist like Isaac Newton, then it's also possible human Sunset died of some other cause before pony Sunset got there. If human Starswirl is dead, then the two worlds don't need matching characters everywhere. They can live one without sharing them. So, maybe human Sunset died as a fated experience so pony Sunset could take her place and link the worlds as a balancer. So the theory that there was a human Sunset existed and died can still make sense, just that we all know pony Sunset was never cruel enough to commit murder
It's also entirely possible that human Sunset Shimmer had passed away, perhaps from an illness or accident or something of that nature when she was much younger and after several years and Equestrian Sunset Shimmer arriving in the human world as a teenager, that would explain why no one who may have known human Sunset all those years ago doesn't even recognize her.
A bit of a dark and tragic theory, believe me I know, but it does seem entirely plausible as well.
I think Human Sunset ran away to the pony world the same time pony Sunset ran away to the pony world. As for how Human Sunset knows about said world, She discovered the portal by accident while resting near the statue
I don’t think she would have killed her, and maybe she would have been a scientist or something, or maybe want power instead of musical talent, but I like the last theory and YES!!!!!! SOMEONE FINALLY THINKS OF THIS!!!!!!!! YES, SAWTOOTH!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!
I think, like certain TV shows, there might not have ever been a different version of Sunset. Not because the pony one might have killed her, but because the pony world has a different timeline to the human world, So Sunset’s parent’s might not have had her. Or, if they did have her, she might look a lot different. That’s just what I was thinking though, I might be totally wrong!
Coming back and re-watching this and looking in the comments again has made me notice I can’t remember anything because I don’t remember ever having this theory
I think there is a lot more truth to "Human Sunset may not exist" than you think, Sawtooth Waves. For example we not know if there is a human Starlight Glimmer, Pipsqueak, Sandbar or etc... We also do not know if there are pony versions of many EQG characters like Juniper Montage, Vignette Valencia, Abacus Cinch or etc... And now that the series ended we may never know. We also may never know if there are other cities other than the one where the EQG series takes place in, compared to what we saw beyond Equestria's borders, such as the Dragon Lands, Griffonstone, or Mount Aris.
I think the human world runs on chaos theory and by chance the OG Sunset Shimmer (The Other Sunset Shimmer (Human)) was never born. Another idea may be the forbidden spell used to teleport Sunset Shimmer to the human world may have thanosed the OG human Sunset Shimmer in the process (pre-portal)
If human Sunset is human Starburst’s sister, then without magic, she would still be in the human world village with human Starlight. That explains why no one has ever seen human Starlight at Canterlot High
If she did have a human counterpart, wouldn’t she have come through the portal to Equestria with human world weapons? Applying your theory, could she have perhaps designed a formula for a nuclear bomb or a cyber weapon?
Terminator 156 That’s not necessarily true. That only means that at least one pony does not have a human counterpart, but it could still be true if any human were missing.
Can Lauren Faust Please Make Starswirl Go Into The Human World? I Bet You That Human Twilight Would Have A Stroke. Maybe He'd Act As Ridiculous As Our Twi In Equestria In The First EG Movie. That Would Be The @Best Gift Ever!
Imagine the real human Sunset actually exist except in a false identity after finding out another sunset had taken over her school. As much she want to stop the other Sunset she realize she can do anything and lives as a different person. Like, what you said if Sunset talent is actually singing and thTs what Real Sunset does.... She might have ran away and become a different person. Who knows shes already faraway from where she used to be and gone by a new name.
I think I solved sombra he has a curved horn like mistmane and we saw there was a whole village of ponies with curved horns I think sombra stararted as normal one but as he grew bigger he got some kind of greed and darkness took over him just like nightmare moon
Maybe in the human world Sunset could be with her brother Sunburst & Starlight maybe, but they live in a different city or live in the same city Human Twilight does but in a very different area.
When Sunset Shimmer first came to the human world and saw the human world Sunset Our Sunset "Are you like, me?" Human Sunset "Are YOU me?" Our Sunset "Yeah, that ain't happenin', sister." pushes human Sunset through the portal and sends her to the moon prison Our Sunset "That takes care of that..." walks away
i dont think there is a human sunset at least not when sunset moved to the human world tell now. for one none of the other humans really knew anything about her she is the type to be a bit of a bully as a human, that being said i think others would have know of her at the school or around the town even before she showed up from equestria. so i dont really think there is any human sunset, plus if your going back as far as star swirl it has all ready been proven by the comics which are cannon with the cartoon as far as i know that star swirl went to the human world in the past and did stuff there, what he did im not sure about, but i think the star swirl in equestria is the one shown in the statue. thus being there is only one star swirl, i think sun set is the same as star swirl in that respect.
come to think of it, since there must be a human Starlight and she isn't at CHS or CPA; and considering what the pony Starlight has done, and to an extent continued to do; then what IS the human Starlight doing? and did this world's Celestia and Luna also have a fight? they clearly have a rivalry. except their fights didn't end in attempted murder.
The idea I always had was that she probably was a lot like pony sunset was in the first equestria girls except no secret motives and she’s just a bully at some other high school. Though I like your idea too.
Well in that human world 1902 French adventure short film directed by Georges Méliès, A Trip to the Moon,is real history, I think! The movie has changing, the Selenites!
@Terminator 156 It does not because they didn't say which ones did not have one (didn't read what the people that made it said but I feel as though I am right
Wow I did not think this through The Sunset I know that I'm in love with is a pony form thinking about the about the human version of her are just 2 sunset's
In my vr game for quests there's a quest called hidden potential where human sunset shimmer told you this hey big guy I know you have equestrian magic and tenkai energy so how about you combine it in battle and the objective is to complete the mission called equestikai powerstorm where in a cutseen you get bombarded by exsplosives and then a giant arm grabs the boss gina and shows my oc brand new equestrian tenkai hybrid form which is the same size as tirek at full power and then show how powerful by firing the catalsmic cannon attack at the mane 7 destroying the rainboom chance of attack and the mission ended with you showing your new form to oddsquard and get promoted to juggernaut
I always question this but i have a theory that maybe human sunset go to the pony world like pony sunset go to the human world so that's why we never see human sunset because she is not in human world but she is in pony world
"so where is she if she was driven by pride and ambition?" Me:hmmm politics? .... Maybe she is the popular girl? Orrr science just out of pride that she understands it and others don t? Ooor she is interested in economy... Or- Sawtooth :thats right.... mUsIc Me:???
I actually like to think that there never was a human Sunset Shimmer. Not everypony from equestria has a human counterpart, and there's a chance that there just wasn't one to begin with. How else could she have so seamlessly integrated into the human world?
Look this may sound absord but what if the Sunset we know is the real human Sunset that, somehow, ended in Equestria as a baby, meaning there's two Sunset in Equestria for a time being. One having a normal life with her família, and the other living with Celestia since She doens't have parents. Só the human Sunset end up in Equestria, was raízed by Celestia, and Run away to the human world. Meanwhile the pony Sunset live her life without complications
Plot twist: human Sunset live in Japan and flunked out of UA high school and became a villain to get revenge on the hero’s that kicked her out. That sounded more like a fan fiction a really cool one, someone use my idea if you want to!
Wait if Sunset Shimmer is the older sister of Sunburst.... if Sunburst in your other theory was the Sunburst from equestria then what if assuming they do have split up parents...... if sunsets parents is her and sunbursts mom and they share a different dad...... what if her dad never met her mom therefore she never existed in the human world to begin with BECAUSE OF PONY SUNSET MESSING IT UP WITH MAGIC FROM EQUESTRIA
Everyone knows sunset as mean. And I don’t think human world sunset would be mean because before pony sunset ran away she was nice. Maybe she just lives really far away
What if HUMAN SUNSET WAS ATUALLY EQUESTRIA SUNSET she could of got yeeted into pony world and Clestia looked after her weird theory but whatever its cool!
here's an easy answer human world sunset caused just as much trouble as pony sunset but because they didn't have the magic to send her to another dimension human sunset is in prison tadaaa
I think the human starlight would be in another country. Because pony starlight lives in a village that seems British for me for some reason? Maybe wherever human sunset lives is in another country! Even though I think the place human mane 6 lives in America. I think...
@Terminator 156 hm, yeah, that surely would be a rather indirect way to confirm that Human Sunset doesn’t exist, but since it’s indirect, it still doesn’t stop us from think of ideas that could still be possible.
Okay My theorie it's kinda possible but not likely:
Human Sunset We don't see in eg because she isn't there. She is in Equestria! She find a natural portal to Equestria and travel there. What happened after she got there? There is a possibility to she followed the same story as Pony Sunset. Being evil and after a realize the magic of friendship she got to good. But then she have a magic demon from or not, and if she have why we never heard of? What is Human Sunset find a portal BUT it's not a portal to Equestria. It's only portal to the Pony word (it's weird to call when a talking about she travel a place where is probably don't live ponys). And that's why we never heard about her demon from. We see it Equestria not really give attention to outside word. They not even know about the storm king. So it's possible her magical fight new didn't reached Equestria. Or if she doesn go to Equestria then can be it's was a offscrean friendship problem. This version also don't have demon from.
What do you think about it? Also ty for made a full video about a question what I ask before in this channel. I really appreciate you :3
It is posiple that it is only one sunset becaus in my feuther dreams i am aparentely born in 3 tiferent Worlds one of them is equestria but it is only one of me so the chans that it is only one sunset is bigger than it seams.
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I've always wondered about this topic as well , I think you're onto something about the whole "there's no original Human Sunset , only one Sunset who's destiny is to bring the two worlds together" , the theory about her offing the original if there was one is pretty dark ( though there has been a lot of dark things in MLP ) maybe one day we'll get a answer ? it's just such a fascinating topic to me ! Oh , love your videos by the way ^^
This video has a lot of great points and I like Sawthooths ideas, but here's another one. one with probably no evidence at all, so don't take it too seriously. What if human sunset, like pony sunset traveled through realities and now is in Equestria and is just chilling or hiding. think about it, we have never seen human sunset and we know that there are other portals to Equestria like the quicksand one. What if she found one of those portals and now is living as a pony in Equestria or even outside of Equestria. Just a fun thought 😋
My thought was always that HW Sunset was still Celestia's student in some way. Maybe in an old school or before she became the principal. Like EQ Sunset, HW Sunset was doing something shady or wrong and Celestia gave her a final chance. Maybe EQ Sunset took her place in that moment. Or maybe HW Sunset was expelled from her middle school, only for EQ Sunset to be the one to attend Canterlot High.
This is exactly one of the things I wondered, but could you imagine if Star swirl the bearded entered the human world and dropped dead because he was already dead there? You noticed we've never seen anyone Dead from the Pony world actually be in the human world, I have a feeling that even their life forces are connected through the portal.
Doesn't really fit with the context of the video but after watching your How Sombra lost his wings video I had this thought wanted to commented there but since the video is almost a year ago I assumed that you wont see it but I really want an explanation from you!
As you said in the video (How Sombra lost his wings) and it did actually happened in the series- that Cozy lost her alicorn form because all the magic (from all 3 tribes) she absorved was taken back by Grogar's bell, therefore changing her back into her "natural form" pegasus . But when Celestia, Luna, Candace, & Twi's magic were taken by Tirek why did their alicorn form was still there? All of them weren't naturaly alicorns ( as we theorized)
It's also possible that Equestria Sunset made human Sunset 'disappear'.
I think you're right and she wouldn't have killed her counterpart, but I don't think it was beneath her to get her out of the way by other means if she was too close and might cause complications for her.
I like the idea of original human Sunset being a failed musician, and I think that she decided to cut herself off from the world to focus on bettering herself, and ultimately making a musical comeback.
Human Sunset doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.
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Mr. Azərbaycan2021-08-27 16:45:13 (edited 2021-08-27 16:46:14 )
Or we should instead ask ourselves whether the human Sunset is the original one, and there is another Sunset in Equestria? I want Sawtooth to think about it! Though i love Sawtooth's theory (as always lol)
is it just me or is there something in common with sunset shimmer and cosy glow? think about it, sunset shimmer was celestia's pupil and cosy glow is twilight's pupil. they both abandoned their studies and pursued their own paths and wanted magic and power. maybe later, cosy glow is freed from stone ( i don't know how, maybe grogar?) stumbles her way into the human world and decides she likes it there and being a pegasus she won't have any trouble when it comes to the world not having magic, and seeing as before friendship didn't work for her twice, she turns into a bully, and then she goes back to equestria and by then she'll probably be older now, so she takes luster dawn's something ( i'm not sure what, but if the main 6 had the elements then maybe luster dawn and her friends in ponyville has something similiar.) and goes back wanting magic because you know, she literally tried to drain all the magic from grogar's bell, and then luster dawn goes there and cosy glow turns into a demon and then luster dawn finally teaches her about the true meaning of friendship.
Same as with human Twilight: She just lives a bit furher than others. Looking at ponies and their human counterparts we can see that canterlot high and near soroundings are mirroring Ponnyville and it's soroundings :3 Twilight that didn't oryginaly live in Ponnyville and her counterpart was living in Crystal Prep so we can guess that it could be the same for Sunset.
I believe that the original human sunset left to another world, I feel she would be like pony Sunset and Human twilight. A prideful scientist that wanted more and left to another world.
What if sunset's parents found the portal to equestria and passed through? We don't have an exact on how long it's been around and we cant really say that everyone in the human world has an equestria counter part 🤷♀️
In the scrapped eqg finale, Human Sunset Shimmer is said to have been displaced when Pony Sunset opened the portal for the first time. Its likely that human Sunset had been in equestria the whole time. my best guess as to how, is that she was leaning on the statue when the portal opened, fell in, and was unable to go back after the portal closed.
Every since your new video comes out I wait for your next one because all of them are soooo good and I was just wondering when will you start making videos on mlp g5 ??
Hey Sawtooth waves i have a theory for you. Why is it that when tirek drained the flight out of pegasi they couldnt fly That doesnt make any sense you cant just take flight from something thats has two good wings and has already learned how to fly think of i as a bird learning to fly once it has learned it cant be taken the only way how is by an injured wing Why is it that pegasi can just have there flight taken away?
I still believe that Sunset killed her reflection. There are some parts that show her room and I don't think that a teenager girl world could pay an apartment or something like that.
I have two guesses 1. She's literally just off somewhere else doing some shit while her pony counterpart is being a magic girl. 2. If she is actually Sunburst's sibling, maybe Firelight and Stellar Flare got married instead of Stellar Flare and Solar Wind/Firelight and whoever Starlight's other parent is. This could also explain why there's no appearance from Human Starlight either. We know from the Rarijack/Appledash debacle that different pairings can be canon in the two worlds. Plus some people ship Stellar Flare and Firelight.
@Terminator 156 The creator is Lauren Faust and I'm pretty sure that she left before Rainbow Rocks. Also my second theory literally would mean that Sunset was never born because her parents didn't get together.
Ah yes the EGQ might have 2 sunset shimmer theorising this as we saw in the movie that twilight also had 1 ”clone”, in fact everyone one in the mlp universe has a “clone” in the EGQ universe and also that is the reason that twilight said it’s risky to go in the EGQ to her friends in the first movie
I always thought that maybe the Sunset of the human world found a way into Equestria and now lives somewhere there. Like Sunset switches from Pony to human, why shouldn’t the other one switch from human to pony?
I tend to assume they all have human counterparts. But #1, they could live literally anywhere in the world. I suppose you could run into yourself amongst 7 billion people, even if they lived across the globe from you, but it’s highly unlikely. And #2, as with Star Swirl, we see that the timelines between the worlds aren’t a 1:1 match necessarily, nor are the circumstances. Human Sunset could’ve lived and died under normal circumstances long ago.
Maybe The Original Human Sunset is the exact opposite of Sunset Shimmer, before she became good. Maybe The Original Human Sunset is happy and has her own group of friends in another school. She might be the opposite because The Original Human Twilight was the opposite of Pony Twilight. While Pony Twilight had her friends and was loved by almost everyone, Sci-Twi was alone, friendless and kind of hated by almost everyone.
For me i Always thought she was One of A Kind and there was no Counterpart thats how i have felt for years now they were planning to show her couterpart in a 5th Movie but never did and the movie was never Made or Released so for me i don't think there is one if there is then where has she been for years?
There is a possibilty that human Sunset was never exist in the first place. I mean, not all humans have pony counterparts, and so does the reversal. So, the pony Sunset is the only Sunset that exists in both worlds.
I've always believed human world Sunset goes to Crystal Prep and that's why we don't see her. Or at least she started going there after Sci-Twi transferred to Canterlot High and took her spot
I think there was a human sunset, died, and when pony sunset came to the human world, someone must have recognised her, told her parents, and ofc they didn't think much of it at first, because theyr only daughter cane back to life. This is the only logical explanation, as sunset has a house, and there is no way sunset would know how laws, money, and how things work in this dimension. I like to believe that sunset told them that she is not the sunset they knew, and they felt sad at first, but came to accept it. Also, in the song "my past is not today" you see sunset as a kid in the pictures, most people will think that is pony sunset, but i believe that the first two pictures are human sunset when she was a kid, and the third is pony sunset, that also help us understand that human sunset parents weren't around or weren't good parents, this is why human sunset was as bad as pony sunset, you know, the environment changes the kid.
Edit: earlier i said that human sunset parents are not good parents, let me correct that.
I believe human sunset parents have jobs that require then to leave home for long periods of time, i believe that is why human sunset turned out this way, because she didn't have her mom and dad to teach her things like love and friendship, and when they god wind that sunset died from an accident or something, they were devastated. When pony sunset came, they had new hope, maybe they thought that god give them another chance, they didn't question it, As they didn't care. But because human sunset became like that for lacking of parental guidance, pony sunset was hungry for power, and theyr relationship was not good.pony sunset probably told them to leave her alone, and they, as they got another chance to see her and not wanting to lose sunset again, started going back to theyr jobs, this is probably why you don't see sunset parents, even tho she has a nice house, and as i said before, there is no way for sunset to buy or obtain such a nice house, a motorcycle, and all other stuff.
I think she studied in the crystal prep, cinch built her up like celestia promising her a bright future, sunset eventually got very full of herself and dropped out thinking she was too good for crystal prep. There was no portal she knew about so she just stayed mad, bitter and unfulfilled.
@Terminator 156 false. they said the last eqg tv special they planned was gonna be about human sunset, pony sundet somehow got rid of her w magic and wanted to fix it. But they scrapped it. It was gonna be the finale
Belle Noire: If it didn’t happen that means it’s not canon and I’m glad it didn’t happen because it’s unnecessary and it would be bad for Pony Sunset because she loves the human world and the friends she has and will have to leave if the Human Sunset was there.
@Terminator 156 nothing's really canon on this topic and yeah it would be difficult to solve that situation. The creators just didn't go there anyway so.
Did you know that Furlry heart may be the only Alicorn born in Equestria but who said that she could be one of the many alicorns born in the cristal empire.
Because in the Cirstaling episode we an a female Alicorn and a unicorn how is the father and then we a baby unicorn on the vase that shows the history of the cristaling
that vase was depicting the characters we already know. one of the alicorns is twilight, the other is cadance. the unicorn father is shining, and the mane six are also present. im guessing the vase was recently made as a promotional thing
I just think that there are some ponys that don't have a human counter part and humans that don't have a pony counter part. For example Starlight Glimmer doesn't have a human counter part and we never see some students from Cantetlot High in Equestria. (P.S. I know I have bad spelling and may have spelled some stuff wrong so please don't point that out.)
Is funny becouse, atleast for me, im so use tho have Sunset in the human world from equestria girls, that sometimes is strange to remember that she is originaly a pony from equestria!
i can’t relate more to this video. i been thinking about this ever since that i know about eqestria girls ,i though that human sunset is eather dead bc of muder or some kind of that stuff or she moved to somewhere else no one knows about it other way is got drove nuts bc fail of her music or drove nuts bc of lonelyness, i been there so it could be possible well there is a chance there is only one sunset like sawtooth said but Sawtooth i suggest you to ask ask @The Nameless ( i apology if i am spelling wrong)he might just know something about this
actually as far I know creators confirmed somwhere that Sunset 's human counterpart just doesn't exist thats why we never saw her human version because her human version never existed I heard not evryone have their counterpart in human/pony world
@Terminator 156 i saw on wikia on trivia that not evryone have their counterparts and also on trivia was mentioned that creators confirmed that her human version doesnt exists also people were somwhere telling about this but now trivia on Wikia is erased lol I will try to find links for exact confrimation
Just reposting my Theory for all the none Patrons. So based on this video. I think I know where sunset shimmer is... In prison. Think about it, if she went on to be a musician, with said pride. It's almost guaranteed that she had an outburst, like most famous pop stars do. Lindsey Lohan, Justin Beiber, etc. She most likely had a bad show and some fans were mocking her, which would cause her to have said outburst since she's filled with so much pride. I imagine it gets to the point where she causes an accident. Thus getting to police involved and she is blamed for it and sentenced to a life in prison. As time went on, people just simply forgot about her, before our sunset shimmer came into the equestria girls universe. That just seems like the most logical possibility to me. since this always happens to arrogant musicians in our day and age.
Well om youtube there is the video where Sonata Dusk and her sisters meet there human counterparts and than Sunset Shimmer told the 2 dazzlings and her human counterpart told them to be not afraid and calm down
An imteresting concept mabey she just lives far away for anyone eles to notice her mabey she lives with her family and had a better life then are sunset
I like to believe that human sunset is out there somewhere. But she's not named sunset shimmer. Look at it this way the multiverse threoy everything probability and improbability exists. Human sunset shimmer could have been in plan view this entire time just under a different name.
I take for a example in the cw the flash. A villain posing as a good guy from earth 2 shows up and shows Barry his earth 1 counterpart An orphan with a completely different name than who he was posing as. Yes it was a facade to gain his trust that is still accurate to the whole multiverse threoy.
Human sunset shimmer could have been named completely different and look completely different from her pony counterpart. Human sunset could have easily be one of the background characters that we paid little to no attention to.
Michael Ferrell2021-08-27 17:03:14 (edited 2021-08-27 18:00:39 )
Yes there is a human sunset I know because there a video that talk about a cancelled special that would have rap everything up and introduce the sunset shimmer of the human world
I’ve heard she doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators and if that idea was scrapped then it’s not canon.
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Michael Ferrell2021-08-28 14:35:02 (edited 2021-08-28 17:06:39 )
Jast because it wasn't in the show doesn't mean it cun be in a comic book or a grhpaic novel and Hasbro also Said pony life was in the same universe as fim they lie
I'm fed up of you just constantly changing your schedule. Next Wed Fri after next next Fri and back Fri after next just pick a schedule and stick with it and how suddenly you're able to do all of this in a week very sus you're very lazy, you're just spending the first week doing nothing and blow it off last minute
@Quacker Simple the mirror is open while she is a little girl in the human realm, she falls through the Portal, finds herself in the pony realm, then when she tries to go back through, the portal has closed, trapping her in the pony realm. Celestia finds her, takes her as a ward, then things go from point A to point B, and she's back in the human realm.
I could explain it in greater detail, but this is to give you a rough idea of how she might be originally from the human world.
dear sawtooth . I think the real human sunset as fainted from the world because sunset stay in the because our is still in the human world so until our sunset goes stay her world and please do a video on it.
If they say do you mean something I don’t think I know she will not look like twilight get something I’m not like that twilight it was like that because that’s what she like the one something like she will be on the human world while I like swimming so her stuff will be like Nah something like the …….learning is she like us alone not only really so something to Sunset Lakes my love go to this human world but why what something like
And why isn't princess celestial and Princes Luna dead in the human world since a humans age is around 80 years and the royal sisters in the the pony world are around 1111 years old
@ATIYYAH BINTI AFFANDI Moe she said something like . " I didn't waste my time trying to get rid of her" or something like that.... Somewhere where twilight is fixing the mane 6 again.
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The craziest theory is that Sunset killed her human counterpart and took her place. And as dark as this theory is, the scariest part is that is actually solves a lot of plot holes as to why we've never seen her human version and where Sunset was sleeping all these years.
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@Alex Seshan General Kenobi
64 likesThat was creepy😱
248 likes@SP MAN
56 likesDamn right
So basically the series turned into Mirai Nikki
216 likesShe wasn’t exactly in a good place mentally, or morally when she arrived.
366 likesGeneral Kenobi
23 likesI was confused at people who thought Sunset killed other Sunset because it’s a kids show
111 likesWe actually do get to see where sunset lives in the “Monday blues” music video, it’s like a cheap apartment
116 likesWhy are we asking this question anyway human sunset could be in poland and we would have no idea
106 likesI have three theories.
114 likesFirst one is that Sunset is from the human world but she was an orphan and she slipped into a portal leading to Equestria. Now you may be asking where is pony sunset than and that's were it gets interesting. I think that she was killed in a forest by Timberwolves and the sunset we know was spat out in that forest and later found by the ponies she calls family. I'd like to point out that in the anon a miss story she says she was never close to her family and I think her starting out as an orphan then being transported to another world with talking horses would definitely causes some sort of gap. Which led to her estrangement with her family and the ambition for magic and power.
The second one is a little more simple but equally possible. And that's that human Sunset is a runaway like Sunset. She could have left her home and essentially is travelling around the world and is staying under the radar because that's what runaways do. They stay hidden. The proof is comparing human Twilight to pony twilight. While the difference of what they are after is magic and science the fact remains that they study it feverishly. I think that maybe she ran away to prove something to those she ran away from much like Sunset did. What that something is remains up for debate. It could be art/painting, or it could be music based. Again no one really knows.
The third is much like the first but instead it follows what we know so far with the sunset we do know. So she would be a pony. There we can now focus on human Sunset. In this theory not just human Sunset but her entire family is killed/lost in some sort of accident. While no real proof exists, I would like to point out that if either a human sunset does exist and shes as estranged from her family as pony Sunset than why haven't we seen anything about a missing sunset or have a family member like human sunsets parents or sibling run up to her or something similar in all this time. It's not like Sunset is hiding herself. Shes in a popular band, was in a movie, and was at a rock concert and sung with the idols on stage. That's hard to miss. Which is why it's possible for human sunset and her family to be dead. As well as if she did take over human Sunsets role as found daughter why would she be living in her cheap somewhat rundown apartment alone?
Anyways those are my thoughts on human sunset. Sorry for the long read.
that would make so much sense
8 likesDamn I just got a new idea for story writing, thanks for the creepy theory
20 likes.... I'll never see sunset the same again......😓💩
18 likesThat gave me the creeps-
12 likes@candie berry Exactly what I was thinking xD
6 likessunset was also a demon, so she could have totally done this for real
22 likesand since mlp is a kids show, they can't just show it
but there weren't any hints that she killed her counterpart or anything, it seems more like it was just forgotten that she should have a counterpart as well
i wish the mlp creator would do a Q+A, so we can ask that question
Thats my theory
5 likesOh god (the only problem with this was it was leaking that human sunset was to appear before the show ended with rumours of equestria girls continuing but this theory would be wild
15 likeshello there
5 likesI mean like when u said Someting scary but the one u said made me like bruh scared and I'm still Scared of what he saying but u are correct maybe
5 likeshello
2 likesI WAS THINKING THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE
4 likesand she probably never talked about it because she didn't want her friends knowing and being scared of her maybe
11 likesI kinda want to add to this theory, I honestly think that the human sunset wasn’t attracted by magic
11 likesAnd had no knowledge of it, so she would maybe be nice and popular in counterlot high, the pony sunset
Would be a studying student, like twilight, but fails so she seeks another world, with all her studies
She discovers the human world and decides to have a new life there, she finds out about the nice sunset and rage
Interferes her which makes her mad, she wants power like she’s seen a fellow student, twilight become
But she fails miserably and sees her opportunity in cantorlot, so I think she likes the popular ness
Of her human self, and secretly ends her life pretending to take her place and becomes crueler and more hungry
For power like she originally wanted in the pony world, it also fills another gap whole, we saw a picture of the main six
Together when they where young before they fell apart and twilight put them back together, why didn’t sunset ruin there relationship
Back then? Because it wasn’t the same sunset and she saw how powerful the main six where in the pony world she was jealous and didn’t want that to happen to a world that gives her opportunity this is my theory is you see any mistakes or things that would likely
Be wrong please correct me I’m interested in the truth of this theory
Or she found a way to replace the human Sunset shimmer.
8 likesThat's really crazy😨
6 likes@DontTouchMyTea i wish mlp could do a Q&A too so we can have all our questions answered😢
2 likes@diamond girls Oh no😢🙁
1 likeI doubt Hasbro would let this be canon in their show that is meant for the whole family to watch, while it makes sense this would probably be too dark
5 likesThere is no other sunset. Thats what her cutiemark means . She's the balance between worlds. Theres only one sunset
7 likesThis is a kid show i dont belive that and anyone who watched hot wheels acceleracers before saying well dint they do that to kadeem probaly people who never watched breaking point and ultimate race hes alive only now hes on the other team and is a cyborg robot so i dont belive it.
5 likes@SP MAN
1 likeScary 😱 👻 👾
@Dj Cuevas
1 likeI like the good😇-hearted💛 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ better 😇
@zooballoons studios
1 likeIt's not nice to kill 😠
@Doctor RTD
2 likesI like the good😇-hearted💛 Human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(👩🌠🦸♀️)[☀️🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫, and the good😇-hearted💛 Pony🦄 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(🦄🌌🕊)[☀️🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Pony🦄 World🌍 of pony🦄 Equestria Kingdom🏞🏰 better 😇
@diamond girls
1 likeDon't worry, sweetheart💖. You'll see👁 her again😇. She's the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Forgiveness🥺😇
@DontTouchMyTea
1 likeI like the good😇-hearted💛 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ better. I also like Counterparts 😇
@Just some Fun
2 likesSo wild🤪 😥, it's the Nature🏞 Place called . . .
The Wild🏞!
@Orchxd
1 likeSometimes, it's better to be alone, so nobody can hurt you, ever
@Loulyaalove
1 likeIt's all right. Some people are like that.
I believe in magic🌠 💛 🌌
@Rosie Posie bir exo-l
1 likeThat's naughty 😠
@Rosie Posie bir exo-l
2 likesI know🥺. That's crazy😠!
@Angilee Smyth
1 likeI like the 2 Sunset🌅 Shimmers♀️(🦄🌠🕊/👩🌌🦸♀️)[☀️🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 better:
Good😇-hearted💛 Human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(👩🌠🦸♀️)[☀️🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫, and good😇-hearted💛 Pony🦄 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(🦄🌌🕊)[☀️🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Pony🦄 World🌍 of pony🦄 Equestria Land🏞
@Bliksemridder
2 likesWhy not🤨? I like Hot Wheel toys and the Hot Wheel T.V. commercials 😇
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 you mean like killing him i mean it would bring a good revenge story mot gonna lie but its just dark then like the audience isnt happy back when that happend plus some people think banjee is dead not a silencer one even of him being a drone but a toy if acceleracers continued we saw a major and a other silencer that looked like banjee so hes a silencer to me if you ask but fair point tho.
1 like@Bliksemridder
2 likes"A good😇 revenge😈 story📘"? "Mot"? "Banjee"? Bah😠. I do my revenge😈 on Cartoon Villains😈 by rescuing☸ Cartoon Good😇 Guys from Forces☠ of Evil💀
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 mot sorry i ment to type not but i like i have a hole version if kadeem dint get captured mixed with others check on the video if taro won the pipe line realm also with revenge on evil forces what do you mean?
1 like@Bliksemridder
2 likes"What do I mean," you're asking🤨?
What I meant is: I hate😈 the Forces☠ of Evil💀.
They're every Cartoon Good😇 Guy's enemies😈
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 oh that way i get it now thx also whats your fav theory in this video? Mine is the cutie mark one but since any ones talking about the thing where a human sunset would apear for finaly seems canon but got scratched ok then but the cutie mark one makes sense.
2 likes@Bliksemridder
1 likeI like the Thx commercials 😇
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 don't be cringe
0 likes@DontTouchMyTea
0 likes"Cringe"😯? Who are you calling a Cringe?😠
I'm just a fairytale-lover who never stops✋ believing💫. And that is NO joke🌀
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 What?
0 likes@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 your whole comments are cringe, the emojis, the weird building of sentences, you replying to everyone with those kind of comments.. eh
2 likesare you trolling?
@zooballoons studios me looking at this comment knowing in the actual show it's canon murder actually took place
3 likesin the wiki it was said cozy glow did commit murder but im not rlly sure what episode implied it wkwkwk
don't believe it. hasbro just wouldn't make a story that brutal. this is a kids show, and i don't think they would want to scare the kids by mentioning a human being murdered (it's a little too dark of a storyline)
1 like@DontTouchMyTea
0 likes😠 I'm NOT a troll🧟♀️. I'm a man🧑
That’s actually what I think happened
0 likesObi Wan Kenobi I saw your comments on Star Wars videos xD now I'm starting to like you xD I can't believe you watch My Little Pony too! YAY!
1 likeomg same
1 like#visper
0 likesNezuko edit
@visper
0 likesI’m pretty sure she rented her apartment though 🤷♀️😂
0 likesObi-Wan Kenobi. Do you like My little Pony?
1 likeOr the human sunset died in a car crash or something
0 likesin the context of the show it’s more likely that she brought magic to the world somehow and banished her or something
0 likesThat's a kid sjow ofc it's not gonna happen
1 like@Yuki and yet like other kid shows it also has a dark underbelly and besides ponies have died before in Mlp
1 like@DontTouchMyTea I will touch your tea thx for the coffee man
0 likes@zooballoons studios there are fans other than kids lol
1 likeand there's something called a fandom...
(ik u already know but just saying lol)
What the heck
1 like@•CureAngel• lol
0 likesOr…maybe Starlight Glimmer is Sunset Shimmer in equestria and Sunset Shimmer is Starlight Glimmer in the human world? I mean, in one episode, Sunset did say that she didn’t see a Starlight counterpart and did allow her to come along with her.
1 likeOh I think the other Sunset Shimmer like maybe died aswell but not to Shimmer
0 likes@The Peeps who are sunset shimmers parents?
0 likesyes but her whole development and redemption shows no sign of guilt heavy enough to be caused by murder
1 likenot me thinking i created that theory
2 likesThis was the exact same thing I was thinking…
0 likesI’d like to point out though in Forgotten Friendship we actually do see where she sleeps
1 like@R3nny what hapenned to human sunset
1 likeAin't you too busy right now saving Leia? Ow and by the way. Hello there X-D
0 likes@FortunaMagica oops
2 likes@zooballoons studios A kids show where Nightmare Moon explicitly tries to murder her sister, Rockhoof goes through an existential crisis and essentially tries to get Twilight to help him with essentially magical assisted suicide, Twilight has to kill a bunch of clones of her best friend, Trixie attempts suicide by manticore, Diamond Tiara tries to blackmail people for political gain, several apocalyptic alternate timelines including one where everyone is straight up just dead, the kirins are essentially systematically lobotomized, and Starlight Glimmer runs a cult. I don't put anything past MLP at this point.
3 likes@Kitty25 Well, yea I guess…
0 likesoh my
1 likeFor the killing part maybe human counterpart sunset ended it for herself maybe her life wasn’t as nice as others would be just a theory though
1 likeshesh
0 likesyou wouldn't know if I did or didn't
0 likesThat seems a bit insane and a little too dark for a kids show.
0 likesWell...Maybe...
0 likes@Smith the inspiring animator some kids shows can be a bit too dark sometimes
1 likeAs a kid I always assumed this
0 likes@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 terminate would be more appropriate
0 likes@Shovelru
1 likeI like the good😇-hearted💛 human👧/pony🦄 Cozy Glow♀️(🦄🌠🕊)💖 better 😇.
She's one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇
I don't think Sunny was That evil Back then.
0 likes@N.B Top Awesome
1 likeI'm an adventurous🧭 fan of the 3D-cartoon "My Little Pony🦄 G4 and G5" Series 😇
@KR Mii Studios
1 likeDon't be ridiculous 😠!
Sunny☀️ Starscout♀️ is just one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇.
She's the leader of the Mane 5.
She's the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Hope🌟.
I also like her as an alicorn 😇
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 nice
1 like@N.B Top Awesome
1 likeGlad you got my message📝.
Have a good😇 evening🌄.
🌠🦸♀️🌌, 🎼🎺🎵, 🥳🎊🎆!
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 Sunny as in Sunset Shimmer.
1 like@KR Mii Studios
1 likeThat's ridiculous 😠
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 ?????
1 likeNo no but
1 like@MUSHROOM!
1 likeWhat? 😠Come on! Spit it out!
Ok, that’s way too deep
2 likes@💜ItAintCrystal!💙
1 like😠 To me, it's not too deep, it's true
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 it makes sense because besides twilight's if the school system says it wasn't really the beginning of the year how would you get into the school system with no money or anything they're already have to be somebody in the school system that looked like her.
1 likeTrue
1 likeThat would be the evil Sunset Shimmer
0 likesThat’s scary…
1 like@KREWPOTATO
0 likesI like the good😇-heart💛 pony🦄/human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️ better.
She's one of the Force☠s of Goodness😇, and she's the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Forgiveness🥺😇
@DontTouchMyTea MLP:FiM's creator, Lauren Faust, only created the MLP:FiM.
1 likeThat's dark
0 likes@DontTouchMyTea true, this just backs up this theory even more, since when the apple sibling's parents died, they couldn't even mention/show their death, since mlp is targeted at little kids. gives me the creeps, honestly.
0 likesTrue
0 likes@zooballoons studios Look at Avatar. There's death and murder there and that's a kids show.
1 likePlease everyone remember this is a KIDS show😭💀
1 like@InsidiousSaw Avatar is a kids show too, and it has a lot of death.
0 likes@Dj Cuevas She's reluctant to hurt a puppy even at her worst. I doubt she's have it in her to kill a human. Maybe the original died of other causes and she took her place.
1 likeEven though it makes sense, it doesn't make sense that sunset would be able to do something like that... to Um, to herself.
1 likeOn the other hoof, we don't know where sunset lived before she went to Celestia's school, so she could be there, because maybe she was expelled or something.
But... This makes me think.
Maybe human Sunset now lives in the pony world, as a pony?
Think about it. She goes to whatever place, finds magic portal, is in the pony world somewhere far away from where pony Sunset may be, or anypony who might know her, and never finds her way back, since obviously Sunset Scitwi and Rainbow dash could've just gone back through that cave, unless I'm missing something. I'm taking this from memory, but they had to go to Twilight's castle to get back to the human world though twilight's portal. Human/pony Sunset would need to go far away to get there too.
I also just remembered that the extra portals may be from magic leaking into the human world... But yet again, maybe some existed before then?...
@Ryan Moore
0 likes😲What!? "Hurt🤕 a puppy🐶"? "Kill a human"?
😠That's naughty
Obi wan, what are you doing in my little pony?!
0 likesAn interesting hypothesis which might actually be accurate.
3 likesIt is specualted that killing your own counterpart is much more bearable than killing somebody else, because you could just slip into its shoes and no one would notice. I mean think about it, you have technically the same personality, physical features only differ due to the difference in nature of the dimensions you reside in, and you could just think of it as like commiting suicide without actually dying.
Evidence for this theory is that Sunset Shimmer entered the human world when she was a teenager, as Celestia explains that she was her pupil before Twilight enrolled into her academy, so this means Sunset is older than Twilight and probably close to a teen when she abandoned Equestria and fled to the human dimension.
The times by which the two dimensions operate are not the same, remember that Celestia is over 1000 years old while her human counterpart is in her mid 40s, so Sunset was was probaby in her mid 20s while her human self was around 10-12 years old.
Plus, we know that Sunset entered the human world power hungry after her ambitions in Equestria were denied, and she was most likely a teenager in apperance when it happened, but in the school we see a portrait of Sunset Shimmer when she was very young with a very cheerful personality, without any sign of evil ambitions; almost as she was native to the world. While in the next portrait we see a Sunset Shimmer who appears to have a much more darker personality and who truly appears as her mentality is completely different from her previous self. Just like someone who came from a completely different life and simply slipped into her shoes.
Also, when Sunset discovered that there was a human Twilight, why did she never brought up the idea that there could be a human version of herself as well?
Almost as if she knew there couldn't have been another.
This could serve as evidence to back this theory.
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 r/youngpeopleonyt
0 likes@cSedx why
0 likes@Yuki :/
0 likes@Sarah o
0 likes@Bond Forger oh my
0 likes@ivy y
0 likes@Mortality wut
0 likes@Mortality bruh moment
0 likes@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 😠wa!
1 like@KREWPOTATO o
1 like@InsidiousSaw A
0 likes@Ryan Moore maybe she accident hurt her with car or smth
0 likes@Rennor nice put as main comment ❤
0 likesThere's something else I question about Sunset Shimmer. How did she gain a human identity, and who adopted her so she could live in the human world?
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She lives by herself.
197 likes@Ro Noble I know that. But she's not in an orphanage or the foster system. That implies Emancipated Minor. But at the age she was when she first went through the portal, someone had to have taken her in and taught her how to be human. When Twilight first came to the human world she slept in the school library on her first night.
602 likes@Seba Al Dossary Don't like, don't watch
81 likesShe likely was helped by Flash quite a lot in the beginning and somehow forged enough identification to at least enter high school. Or maybe Human sunset disappeared for whatever reason, whether it be a regular disappearance or a magical one due to Sunset's arrival, then Sunset just used that Sunset's identity.
265 likes@Kelly Chan Possibly. She did admit to using Flash. But if there is no human world counterpart to her, then she may be an anomaly. If she was made an emancipated minor due to being registered as an orphan, than she likely got an identity through the foster system. She might have even started out in foster care. But with her villainous controlling attitude and scheming, she was probably made to live alone.
140 likesI’ve always wondered who her parents could be 🤔
58 likes@Saadia Peerbux That's also a very good question
24 likesShe live on her own
10 likes@Saadia Peerbux Maybe Sunburst is a brother?
16 likesMy theory is that they crossed world's at the same time
16 likesI just thought she stole some of Equestria's gems/riches, and the portal translated them into human world money when she arrived. Then she just rented an apartment.
30 likes@jack squatt Wasn't there a flashback that showed when she first went through the portal? I can't remember
3 likes@Felix24148 I'm really uncertain on that. However, I have not seen every last little bit of EQG, so if that flashback exists, it might very well be in one of the parts I missed.
3 likes@jack squatt I was mistaken. It wasn't a flashback, but rather a canon comic that showed what happened called The Fall of Sunset Shimmer. It basically boiled down to her being hungry for knowledge and power, being obsessed with wanting to be a princess after looking into the mirror and seeing a reflection of herself as an Alicorn, and Celestia deciding to stop teaching her because Sunset refused to back down. They had a fight, Celestia orders Sunset be made to leave Canterlot, Sunset overpowered the guards and ran through the mirror. Celestia is left with regret and focuses on teaching Twilight in a different way than she taught Sunset. Then the events of Equestria Girls happened roughly three years later.
23 likes@Ro Noble how tho? she's a minor
4 likes@Seba Al Dossary that’s. Rude
2 likes@BananaGirl74 how is that rude? They are just stating that sunset is a minor
3 likes@Ed Sweet no I’m talking about how he says that he doesn’t like his videos
0 likes@Ro Noble oop-
2 likes@Felix24148 Yeh
3 likes@Kelly Chan you have her cutie mark as your profile pic?
3 likesShe lives alone?
1 like@𝚊 𝚑 𝚎 𝚊 𝚛 𝚝 Yeah she does. She seems to be some sort of emancipated minor
3 likes@Saadia Peerbux he adready made a video about that
2 likesI will agree with that
1 like@Kelly Chan
0 likesActually, Pony🦄 Flash📸 Sentry♂️(🦄🕊)[🛡⚡ + 🛡🔵, ⚡🟡](💂♂️💛💘)🧡 is Pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️(🦄🌠🕊)[🌟 + 🌟💖, 8 ⭐⚪](💑💛💞)💜's Love💘 Interest🥰 😍
@Ro Noble
0 likesDon't worry, sweetheart💖. She has something better😇: friends💑
@Symphony
1 likeWhat's admission?🤨?
@jack squatt apartments (or even homes) require a background check
4 likes@Symphony that does make me wonder what EqG paper work must look like...
3 likes@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 hi sweetheat
1 like@Luan Loud
1 likeHappy😊 Friday 🌞
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 same 😉👍
2 likes@Luan Loud
1 likeDon't worry, sweetheart. Pony🦄/human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀️(🦄🌠🕊)[☀️⭐ + ☀️🟡🔴, 8 ⭐⚪](🦱🔴🟡)[🦎🟡⚫](😇💑💛)🧡 is one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇.
And always will be 😇. Promise keeping 💛.
Have a good😇 day🌞 carefully, for the Heaven Sakes of Goodness😇 if it's the last thing I ever do
@Saadia Peerbux some think she is sunburst sis ;-;
3 likes@ღ Kristal Amber ღ oof ye
2 likesBut I don't think they're siblings
Oh my she’s sleeping beauty
2 likes@Gacha daisies
2 likesPrincess👸 Aurora♀️ the Sleeping😴 Beauty😍
You know the same problem is for twilight and we see how that goes-
2 likes@•Lunar Witch• Not really. Twilight only spent a few days at a time in the human world. She didn't need an official identity there. Sunset Shimmer has been there for years. And therefor did need one.
2 likesShe did live in the human world for a long time... She might have just lived on the streets honestly, or slept in the library like Twilight.
0 likesIts hard to know.
The show never answered this, and I really want answers.
@EG and AJ Maybe. My biggest theory is she ended up an emancipated minor. Which would explain why she has her own apartment
0 likesI have a headcanon that human Sunset found a natural portal when she was younger, and has been living in Equestria ever since. The "she's too far away" and "she hasn't made a big splash" arguments apply here, plus the fact that they'd be looking in the wrong place if they ever did try to locate her.
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Knowing about Spring Break Down, your head canon seems kinda real, there is a chance she found an another portal unknowingly and get in on it accident. That's why she isn't anywhere to found on the human world, and that she is somewhere in Equestria.
72 likesThat’s also my theory, if the Sunset we know can stay there then Human Sunset can too
14 likes@misty !!
5 likesThat's true 👍
@Scara why you have a hot JP VA
2 likesI know the Crystal🔮 Mirror(In pony🦄 Equestria Kingdom🏞🏰) is the magic🌠 portal🧿 to the Horse🐎 Statue🗿(At Canterlot High School🏫)
I Agree Matt TOB Because There Might Have Been A Original Sunset(H) And I Have A Theory: What If Moondancer's Is Original Sunset Oh Also Maybe Original Twilight Sparkle Went To The Same School Together Because I Saw A Crystal Prep Unform On Original Sunset
1 like@spring stansbury
1 like😠 That's silly.
Good😇-hearted💛 Human👩 Sunset🌄 Shimmer♀️👩(☀️🟡🔴)🧡 is the Leader of the adventurous🧭 Equestria Girl👩 Heroes🦸♀️ of Canterlot High School🏫, in the Earth🌎-like Human👩 World🌎 of the 3D-cartoon "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Equestria Girls👩" Series.
Human👩 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️👩(🌟💖⚪)💜 is a good😇-hearted💛 friend💑 of the adventurous🧭 Equestria Girl👩 Heroes🦸♀️ of Canterlot High School🏫, in Earth🌎-like Human👩 World🌎 of the 3D-cartoon "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Equestria Girls👩" Series.
Alicorn🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀️🦄(🌟💖⚪)💜 is the Leader of the fun🥳-loving😍 Mane 6 Heroes🦸♀️ of Ponyville Village🏙, Equestria Land🏞, in the Earth🌎-like Pony🦄 World🌎, in the 3D-animated "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Friendship💑 Is Magic🌠" Series.
Good😇-hearted💛, Unicorn🦄 Sunset🌄 Shimmer♀️🦄(☀️🟡🔴)🧡 is a helpful friend💑 of the fun🥳-loving😍 Mane 6 Heroes🦸♀️ of Ponyville Village🏙, Equestria Land🏞, in the Earth🌎-like Pony🦄 World🌎 of the 3D-animated "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Friendship💑 Is Magic🌠" Series
@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 n
0 likes@spring stansbury n
0 likesPersonally, my own headcannon is more a 'When was Human Sunset?' question. We know Sunset was Princess Celestia's student before Twilight, but I don't think in the animated series we received a clear idea of how long before Twilight. Human Sunset might have been contemporaries with Shining Armor/Cadence, and has graduated from Crystal Prep. Or she may be even older. Principal Celestia vs. Princess Celestia tells us that time runs weird between the two realities, because one is thousands of years old, while the other is likely in her mid-to-late 40's (in my experience full Principals don't get that job until they're at least 40, but I could be wrong there). So Human Sunset might have been a student when Human Celestia was starting as a teacher, anywhere from fifteen to twenty-five years ago.
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Exactly what I thought. Princess Celestia and Luna lived for over a thousand years. So 50 years in the past, there will be no principal celestia or luna in the human world. They would be dead, 50 years in the future. So for Sunset, there are two answers. Either her human counterpart isn't born yet or she died a long time ago.
33 likes@Sahan Senanayake someone said 10 but 15 years ago human isn’t born
0 likesThere was actually a scrapped equestria girls special where they finally found out why magic has been following them around everywhere, where it’s coming from, and who the human sunset was. And in the end, Sunset had to make a huge important decision, (likely going back to equestria)
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:o
14 likesTHAT'S WHAT I WOULD'VE WANTED IN SEASON 9 OF FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC!
103 likesAlong with Using The Real Grogar.
HOLY SHIT WE WERE ROBBED-
49 likesLinks?
10 likesHello? Proof or liar.
7 likes@SilverDiamond I'm pretty sure the eg writers confirmed it on twitter
6 likesIs that the special where they on the sinking boat because if it is then it's not scrapped
0 likes@Chanda Chalabesa-Hehir Like I said. LINKS!!!
5 likes@SilverDiamond stop yelling,I can even hear you through the screen!
4 likes@♡Veclipse♡ Yah, completely yay blind and deafmute. If you can't prove yay - don't comment.
2 likesI have heard about that and despite me not exactly being a huge fan of Equestria Girls, that is something I would have watched. It is sad that Hasbro scrapped it, it would have given us answers to so many things we have questions about....and brought Sunset Shimmer home from what I understand.
16 likes@SilverDiamond there are scrapped storyboards of it in YouTube about it which kind of proves it so yeah 👍
10 likes@SilverDiamond bro guess what I’m commenting
1 likeOh I’m all about that 😊
0 likesI still like the funny Answer, that human Sunset is an adult who lives with her teen/pony self.
883 likesBecause the Adult is secretly part of an MIB style organization focused on tracking and detecting magical problems.
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wow crazy, but could open the door for endless story possibilities
24 likesEsto es tan poco posible que me encanta
8 likesI just always love the idea od a specialist Government organization. Already aware of whats going on, and studying things while the protagonists got to work.
26 likesThey might even be Connected to the organization Bon Bon is part of.
After all many dangerous beings, like the Sirens, had been sent to the human realm, I doubt the ponies are DUMB ENOUGH to just leave such dangerous creatures un watched.
@belmontzar that is so true
5 likesI like this theory
3 likes@Soul_Raider so i do
3 likesYes
0 likesHonestly, EG seems like so much wasted potential. I'd love if they ever did a more grown up version of EG where we explore Sunsets character more and her life before she became miss popular at the highschool.
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Samw
1 likeThere's an article on google that says one of the producer already made an hour long special to be the finale. It is about sunset's human counterpart and what really happened to her. This special was suppose to end the season and begin the season 3 but Hasbro has another thoughts. So they just go with the Holiday unwrapped shorts leaving the whole special storyboard behind. I loved the Holidays unwrapped but i think the special would've ended the series better like how mlp:fim ended so well. They also said that they were suppose to make the season 3 of eg but decided to just drop it after thinking that mlp already ended and itll be better if they end the spinoff to. But hey what do we know, maybe eg will comeback because there are rumors that if pony life will end, they'll continue the season 3 of eg because hasbro has no plans of stopping the my little pony era
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it makes sense, but when it is, i'm waiting all the time and it's gone
1 likeI came back to this channel after a few years bc I fell back into the mlp fandom, and it's nice to see that a couple people (including Sawtooth and Nowacking) have grown into themselves. It's cool, and always great to see trans and nb people living their best lives.
22 likesThe fact that brohoof is still at the end gives me happy tingles 😂
35 likesI used to watch this channel back in middle school when it first started out and it's been super fun seeing how far the channel and Sawtooth have come :)
I like your theory about her being the connection between these worlds! Her cutie mark looks like a ying yang, and cutie marks always reflect who a pony is and what their role in the world is. She’s probably a connection between there and she was always meant to go to the human world, keeping the magic in balance and the reason why magic follows the mane 6 there. It’s a good theory!
3 likesI assumed that just as pony Sunset traveled through the mirror to get to the human world, the human Sunset found a portal to the pony world.
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Well, it is shown in the spring break down that there's more portals besides the mirror so, not impossible.
3 likesOkay Sawtooth now answer where in equestria is human sunset
0 likesI always wondered about that. Maybe human sunset was in a different city in another school. Human twilight was in Crystal prep, rival of Caterlot high school. So it makes sense Sunset might have been in a completly different school.
7 likesIm finally glad someone else brought this up. Its been plaguing my mind since the dawn of esquestria girls.
3 likesI always figured human Sunset would be her living as a delinquent, with her "banishment" in this world being Juvie.
What if Human Sunset was driven to Equestria in the pursuit of Magic. Kinda like string theory I guess. Human Sunset could also be in another dimension similar to the Equestria we know.
58 likesThis is a personal theory of mine, and based on what I already know it could be a big IF. But I was thinking once that it could be possible based on Newton’s law of conservation of energy and mass (bare in mind I have not actually researched this myself, what little I know comes from Peabody and Sherman.) I was wondering if perhaps after the Equestrian Sunset came to Earth and met the Earth Sunset, because the Equestrian Sunset is essentially trapped on earth now. Eventually one was either going to simply fade away (insert Thanos snap reference here.) or one would absorb the other and the dominant Sunset would become the only Sunset. Yes my mind can be a hell of a dark place sometimes. Honesty I scare myself now and again!
5 likesMaybe human Sunset was a grew up woman. I've heard the theory that Sunset maybe an earlier 30 because she entered the human portal when Twilight was still young so that made possibility that Sunset's age doesn't grew up so much in human world so we can see her as a teen
13 likesI don’t really think that Sunset has to have a counterpart, not just for the reason you gave in the beginning, but also because these worlds aren’t a perfect reflection of each other, there are tons of inconsistencies, such as pony Twilight liking flash, and Human Twilight liking Timber Spruce, so maybe Sunset never existed in the human world?
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I agree with that there are inconsistencies but do not agree that human Sunset never existed; it wouldn't make sense for there to be a version of Sunset Shimmer as a pony and not one in the human world. As seen after Twilight (pony version) left, it was eventually revealed there was a human version of Twilight Sparkle.
248 likesThere are a bunch of ponies that have never appeared in Equestria Girls and there's several human characters that have no pony counterpart in the main show. It's possible they all do have counterparts that we haven't seen, but we don't know for sure. Sunset is the most important character we've seen without a counterpart but she's not unique in that.
161 likesYou have to remember that somepony’s doppelgänger is still a entirely different person
62 likesActually I'm starting to think that MLP & MLP EG takes place in different multiverse
36 likesyou may exist in some universe but are you always gonna be good in those universe while in other universe you don't exist yet or you used to exist but you live in like a different timeline
Yes, I believe in your theory, recently I had a conversation about this and I raised this theory
5 likesThis actually a pretty great point. My theory is that she isn't human in the EG world but another creature (like a bird or something) but than when sunset got there she learned to change her form but yours made a whole lot more sense
12 likes@Caleb Lardizabal a pheonix maybe
7 likesAlso the fact, that technically Sunset is older then Twilight, bc she was Celestia`s former student before running away and Twilight taking her place. So when Twilight was a filly Sunset was at least a teen. But in human world they all are in one class. Though I have a theory that human version of Sunset could be in university or already working in another place or another city. She might even be from Canterlot high considering in pony world Sunset was Celestia`s student... But it leaves even more questions so Ill pass on this
33 likesAfter revising all the Equestria Girls movie, now i kinda think your idea can be true. First of all like you said ,the world aren't perfect reflection. Eg: Princess Celestia & Princess Luna shud be in Canterlot but the students & teacher in canterlot high are citizens of Ponyville, which reflect Celestia & Luna kinda lives in Ponyville. Secondly, in Equestria Girls, Princess Celestia told twilight not to upset the balance, but she didnt insist of bringing sunset back juz to not upset the balance, seems like sunset is a bridge of multiuniverse
16 likesthis is what i hope because out of the theories i couldn't handle any of it 😃
2 likesSo where has she slept for years?
1 likeI think she found a way to replace the human sunset shimmer. Or like, they mixed😅 I don't know anything about it😂
0 likes@Rosie Posie bir exo-l i read it was confirmed that she has no counterpart
3 likes@DontTouchMyTea ooh so okey, anyways i haven't got an idea of this mistake🤦♀️😅
0 likes@Rosie Posie bir exo-l she has an apartment, as seen in forgotten friendship, and some of the shorts
0 likes@Lovely One so she leaves alone, ok thanks🙂
1 like@Rosie Posie bir exo-l np
0 likesOne of the writers revealed there were supposed to be an hour long movie special at the end of season 2..in that movie.. They will show what really happened to the real sunset.. But sadly the movie was cancelled
3 likesmy thoughts exactly. these two worlds operate based on what their world needs, and if the human world didnt need a sunset shimmer, it wouldnt have one. the same way it didnt need magic for a while, or it does need abacus cinch while equestria doesnt
2 likesJust because the same exact events of Equestria don’t happen in the human world doesn’t mean a human Sunset doesn’t exist?
1 like@paristath but it means one wouldn't HAVE to exist
2 likesSo sunrise and sunset is one so she’s a balance?
0 likesI imagine that Sunset’s counterpart lives somewhere else, like, FAR away, just like Twilight
0 likesSunset is a student in Canterlot and she hasn’t been seen in ponyville constantly, and she went to school, and then escaped into the Human world and stayed, so I’m pretty sure Sunset’s human self exists in like another town or country where they’ll never meet
I'm so happy to see this channel still active even after all these years of being out of the fandom! The more things change, the more things stay the same, huh?
1 like(I really like the idea that sunset wasn't a scholar, but I think she might have gone into sports instead- where you can prove beyond doubt that at your best, you ARE the best. Music is pretty semantic, and I'm not sure a base sunset would have much interest in it beyond a "ha look at this cool skill I have now bow before me" hobby.)
My theory is that Sunset (before she became good), told other Sunset to not get in her way. This would give her room to fit into the human world. Maybe the Sunset before was a bully, so Sunset had to take her place as a bully.
7 likesI just always believed the human Sunset was in another city not visited in the eqg universe. I haven't put too much thought into it, but I have had an idea running through my head for another story to write where she shows up and has several confusing run ins with the rest of the group.
1 likeI have a story in my head exploring Cozy Glow and Flurry Heart and how Human Cozy banishes human Flurry to the pony world.
7 likeshuman Sunset however could have moved, she could have died from reasons unrelated to Sunset's actions
She could have gone to the pony world but maybe Sunset's double was a different age or gender or color so they don't look the same.
I love how the whereabouts of human Sunset Shimmer has been the one topic people have been theorizing about since EQG first started, the possibilities are literally endless!!!
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yea!
10 likeswhy i see you everywhere i go?
8 likes@USS Indianapolis that's what I was going to ask! 😂
4 likesUSS Indianapolis & kaste1este Meh, both of you shut up and just deal with it, you damn vultures.
7 likes@The Pony of Glory ok
3 likesHuman Sunset doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators and that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world.
16 likesooh
2 likes@USS Indianapolis Does it really matter?
3 likesMaybe there bikers because rainbow is a wonder bolt and she uses a modercykle alot in the human world its possible that the wonder bolts in the human world is a modercykle trick preformers in the human world again just a theory also I am posting part 2 of my solving cutie marks I'm posting today at 7:30 pm
4 likes@Historybuff0601 no im just curious
2 likesBecause it's been unanswered the whole time since the first Equestria Girls
4 likesMaybe sunset put her 6ft under :P
1 likeMy headcanon is actually a build off from Sawtooths, what if the human sunset is only a musician as a cover. What if she's also secretly a ruthless gang boss. Also what if everyone in chs knew about the human one as a musician and thought the pony one was the same girl but just didn't say it thinking the one they knew was trying to have a normalish high school life, as a bully. But then came the rainbow attack and everything made sense, so they never compared her to the human again and it just never got brought back up. I mean it's not like it would be the first time a bombshell like that would go by unnoticed both in the show and real life. Sooo, that's my interpretation. What day think?
6 likesHe’s just another one we need to see her like her please The best YouTuber in the whole day
0 likes@Aged Who are you talking about?
0 likesOf course it is, it was shown there was a human version of Twilight Sparkle long after pony Twilight left which only makes sense there would be a human Sunset Shimmer. One cannot simply exist in one universe and not exist in a different universe, multiverse theory.
5 likes@USS Indianapolis Well i'm afraid your curiosity has fallen on deaf ears if you get the expression.
1 likeTrue
0 likesInstead of Crystal Prep, otherwise, Sci-Twi would have mentioned to us
0 likesI mean we got to see the other twilight
0 likesBut never got to see the other sunset shimmer
It's the same thing with fnaf and the bite of 87
0 likesSadly we're never going to find out since the franchise stopped making mlpequestriagirls
0 likesTwilight Sparkle does have her Counterpart in the human world who wear's glasses but Sunset Shimmer doesn't have a counterpart in the human world and Starlight Glimmer doesn't have a counterpart ether. 🌃✨👓🪞🌅☹️🌠
0 likes@Howard Lee that we know of
0 likeshonestly tho, imagine we get to see real Sunset later on and all along it was just a plot that we hadn't uncovered yet? what if she was there the whole time but for reasons hadn't shown up because the story hadn't centred around her but what if now she does become part of the story, then what would be her role? would she act anything like the pony Sunset? Would her backstory be anything like hers? Why had she been hiding in the low for so long? what are her secrets???
1 likeWell Sunset Shimmer got in trouble in Princess Celestia's class back in the pony world, she betrayed her because Twilight Sparkle just her test and become a Princess. Sunset will get her revenge on Twilight to steal her crown. 🌅☹️☀️😡🌌✨😄👑😈🐴
0 likesMaybe..... let's not think about this?
0 likesdoesn’t starlight glimmer not have a human counterpart either?
0 likesive always thought that the sunset we have now is the human sunset who simply discovered the portal and adapted to the pony world quickly. maybe I missed something but do we see that much backstory for sunset other than "she was a student of Celestia"?
0 likesI’ve been wondering if there was another human Sunset or not!
2 likesI can’t believe Sunset’s story is now a cliffhanger! And there was supposed to be a Sunset Shimmer special that covers the other Sunset.
Interesting theory, very cool. You litteraly should work with creators of the show and make the plot, because your point of view is so much better than a regular show bro /)
6 likesHonestly if Hasbro didn’t cancel Season 3 and the Finale for Equestria Girls, we might’ve gotten an answer about this idea. Or at least, I hope
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The creators actually said not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world.
167 likes@Terminator 156 Oh okay
17 likes@Terminator 156 Thanks for the info
14 likesIdk man, they're already focusing on the G5 movie. Also, someone on Twitter replied to me that S3 was confirmed, even sent a photo that shows a list of things, which included EG S3.
51 likesNot sure if this is true or not, we can only hope that they'll finish the series after the G5 movie has released.
Imo it's very slim since would hasbro even want to do that, heck the animation studio that did eqg now has a new name so what would we do about that. So yeah the chances of eqg returning are very slim, I still hope there's a small chance it might have a comeback but I'm not gonna over think it since this technically isn't the first time hasbro has cancelled something.
24 likes@Ludicrous Torpedo5220 any chance you could send a link to that tweet?
3 likes@Terminator 156 ya i agree
0 likesWhy did they even cancel it anyway!?!? 😩 😩 😩
3 likes@Sharon Robison hasbro denied a third season despite there were episodes and the planned final was already written by the writers.
4 likes@Ludicrous Torpedo5220 there is going to be a s3 of eg i heard it got delayed cause of covid
0 likesThey cancelled that??? Thats terrible!
1 like@Wolf Pack it's not happening its cancelled, covid 19 has nothing to do with this!
1 likei really like EQG a lot, now im salty at hasbro
6 likes@klemontyme
1 likeI like the 3D cartoon "My Little Pony🦄 G4: Equestria Girls👩" Series with the Equestria Girls👩 specials💝
I imagine the human Sunset might be in juvenile prison or be a homeless runaway because the pony one broke the laws and used the portal to escape. What to say her human counterpart might not be a small-time offended at the least.
3 likesI never got around to catching up on everything EG so there being a human Starswirl is new to me. But I always figured that there being another sunset out there made sense. Although the rise of the Rainboom's music career would eventually bring her out and the 2 would be forced to confront each other. The same for Starlight, she's out there, just out there out of reach. Also whether the human starlight would be reformed or not is a whole other issue. The Human starlight though might be already good since the primary reason our starlight was the bad person was because of her confrontation with Celestia, not for other reasons.
0 likesI actually have my own personal theory. Seeing what we know now, the main cast of characters that resemble the main six act exactly like how the originals do, except they act like how they did before Twilight moved to Ponyville. So in Equestria Girls universe it looks like the character development is actually lagging behind, as Twilight is still friendless in this universe and is not in the same school as the other mane six. This leads me to believe that this universes Sunset Shimmer did in fact exist, but she too ran away from home. Unlike our Sunset Shimmer, however, this worlds Sunset was actually a top student that excelled and was even put in college level programs. Because of the high pressure that she felt from her studies, her parents, and even trying to meet Principal Celestia’s expectations, it eventually led to Sunset breaking down and deciding to run away instead. Maybe keeping in line with the main Sunset’s story, maybe the original equestrian girls sunset had done some illegal drugs to keep up with the demands and lower her stress, but she became addicted to it. This would also add embarrassment and anxiety to how this worlds sunset felt. So when our Sunset entered this world, she would be on her own for a while, until the events unfolded for the EG sunset took place. When this worlds Sunset ran away, her parents went out looking for her, only to find our sunset in her place, and after having dealt with poverty and not knowing this world, our sunset hopped on the opportunity to fit in and took this worlds sunsets place.
1 likeThis theory leads into 2 or 3 possible outcomes:
1. That this worlds sunset is now struggling in this world trying to prove herself in a new location, maybe nearby or far away (much like how our sunset did)
2. This worlds Sunset dies while being out on her own, and no one would be none the wiser for it.
3. This worlds sunset was taken in somewhere and is now getting the help she needs, only waiting for a chance to come back into the canon show.
The talk about ambition and seeing Sunset's alicorn ruler reflection in the comic made me wonder if Human Sunset is at a different private school than Canterlot High or Crystal Prep, and she's getting involved in politics somehow, like volunteering with local community groups and/or preferred political party, as age-appropriate steps to gaining political power.
0 likesMy dad theorized that the other student of the principal from Crystal High was the Sunset Shimmer of the human world (because she mentioned having only 1 or 2 other strongly intelligent students that had left) which to me has been something I've stuck with
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That's an interesting observation but if human Sunset was Cinch's student, she should have been shocked or reacted something like that when she saw Sunset at the friendship games
114 likes@PegasisRiri 271 she could of assumed it was her B-sunsets child named after her C-moved to the other school or A anything else or D-her twin
50 likesand each counter part dosnt have to have the same name
17 likesThat would make sense since Sunset was Celestia’s student before Twilight.
31 likes@Mirror they literally all have the same names. but okay go off ig
11 likes@PegasisRiri 271 she left, how would she know
0 likesI Just thought, in the 3rd film on the EQG chronology, the Crystal preeps headmaster says "the good disapear without me noticing"(in other words) wich can be consideres Ana argument in Thais case (in my opinion)
4 likesНе смотря на то, что идея про судьбу Санцет мне больше симпатизирует, не могу не отметить, что теория с убийством логичнее. Думаю она убила свою альтернативную версию, а так как у Санцет никого не было, то и замены никто не заметил
1 likeOr science, you made a good point about Twilight and the stars for leading back on the other talents but I always wanted as replacing magic with science for them meaning human sunset would also excel at science
0 likesthe first theory is actually the most plausible,not just cause, it's in keeping with the show's tone,but we're given pretty clear indicators that while she IS willing to use intimidation and fake evidence as well as "lol look at the new girl being dumb" screen shots,none of this puts her above the "mean bitch" level,and even at her worst she isn't willing to actually hurt puppy Spike.catch yes,vaguely threaten yes actually harm NO
1 likeHonestly I don't think she even had that stupid "teen zombie army" plan before transforming
sooo yeah if she isn't mean enough to hurt a puppy...let alone one she knows is helping her competition I think it's safe to say we can relegate Murder yo the realm of Fimfics.
here's a more grounded idea...Her counterpart is older than she is when she steps through the mirror and that;s why they never meet. she's already past highschool and given she would be a genius ;ole the pony version she's probably literally a rocket scientist or some kind of scientist at the vary least,,,but that's kist my idea for if she had a counterpart in the first place since she is afew years older than Twilight Cannonically.
I think these so much potential for fanfictions of this entire thing. If anyone can find a fimfic with each chapter being a different way Sunset meets her human counterpart, is love to give it a read!
1 likeI heard that there was a scrapped Equestria Girls finale after Sunset’s Backstage Pass that had the Human Sunset. The premise was that her life was ruined because Pony Sunset had taken her identity. However, we never got to see it and Equestria Girls ended with a bad finale in Holidays Unwrapped.
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That actually sounds pretty interesting.
371 likesI’ve actually the creators confirmed that she doesn’t exist and that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world.
411 likesCan you link to the source please?
70 likes@Jokerlyzer Media https://youtu.be/0kfydGeOHEg
57 likes@Terminator 156 which is kinda true. Not everyone has a human counterpart.
242 likesSome have animal counterparts
That's interesting premise, but it doesn't make much sense. Ponies traveled through the mirror portal before and after her, but why she alone accidentally magically remotely caused human Sunset's disappearance?.. Unless she DIDN'T travel though portal, but via own magic?
122 likesyep there was
10 likesWait whaaaat
10 likesI guess we'll never really know, because Hasbro & DHX never chose to tie up this loose end and settle the matter. It's also never established that because they're all high school students, they should all still be living with their parent families; not living independently like college students. So...why do we never see Human Sunset's parents, who might reveal their Sunset somehow died in a tragic accident (bus crash, plane or train crash, cruise ship sinking, etc) and who would therefore mistake Equestria Sunset for their own deceased daughter? OR, if the 2 Sunsets DID meet, what kind of revenge battle royale would ensue for the old one to get her life back, or find a new purpose?? (*Groan*) Even I wouldn't want to be the Hasbro staff writer forced to explain that one.
69 likes@Kenneth Manning if you watch the video linked here in this thread, you'll see human sunset never died. Her life was just literally taken from her.
28 likesYes! I’ve read abt this episode on the wiki, but then I’ve never found it again. I thought it was a fever dream!
17 likes@Jokerlyzer Media Unfortunately it's not canon since the special was cancelled.
20 likesCan you link the source
6 likes@Suprize Studios They did. Look in the thread.
8 likesPreach
5 likesWhy a bad finale tho....anyways I'm really looking forward to research that scrapped finale
9 likesI think there is a real sunset
3 likesImo I really wish this happened but hasbro was like nope let's cancel the show instead of give it a proper ending
7 likes@Jokerlyzer Media you should change up your writing a bit, saying someone’s life was taken from them is smth people say to indicate someone died
0 likes@Hi I’m Luna did you literally not hear what the video said- it means LITERALLY taken from them. Human! SS DID get her life taken from her. Taken also means stealing. Just a heads up.
0 likesOr maybe there was copy sunset shimmer?
0 likesAnd probably took her place
0 likes@Terminator 156 sooo maybe can be some human who don't have their copy in pony world?
0 likesI wish that they actually went through with it.
0 likes@Terminator 156 perhaps discord doesn’t exist in the human world then
2 likeswait what
0 likes@Terminator 156 Yeah.... Its só sad
0 likes@Terminator 156 Eso es decepcionante.
0 likesIt seems how Princess Celestia abanded Sunset Shimmer and didn't complete her test but now she's going to steal Twilight Sparkle's crown at the Crystal Empire. ☀️😡🌅☹️😈🌌✨👑🔮🏰
0 likes@Autum Breeze
0 likesBut, dude, Everybody has a counterpart
@Willy
0 likesIt's NOT a fever🤢. It's NOT a dream💭. It's REAL😠
@I Eat Lemons.
0 likesBut it's NOT canceled. It's TRUE 😠
@MoonDust
0 likesBut it's true
@Jokerlyzer Media ... Have you not heard the term, "euphemism", before?
0 likesFrom what I could tell, Sunset shimmer probably won't meet her human counter part until she fully learns the power of friendship, unlocking her full potential. She'll meet her human counter part as a recall to who she once was and instead of resorting to anything extreme, I can see Sunset showing compassion for her human counter part inspiring the counter part to want to make the change and to learn from Sunset's greatest teacher, Twilight sparkle in the pony world and remaining there to discover her full potential in the magic that is friendship. Aaaaaand, scene.
0 likesSawtooth's voice would be perfect for an audible book. Their voice is so calming to me...
1 likeI have a personal theory, I don't know if it helps to solve this but here it goes, both in the second movie and in the legend of everfree we see how there are 7 elements, in the case of rainbow rocks we see how the red from sunset complements the rainbow, so I have my theory that each world requires its 7 element, represented in the human world with sunset and in the pony with Starlight
1 likeI really want EG to come back. We can't just have a cliffhanger, WE NEED AN EXPLANATION!!!
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I agree.
0 likesnow saw will admit you brought up good points but there is one theory so far no one has touched on paradox say if she came in contact with the human sunset but once they come into physical contact one would absorb the others but the dominate personality is what shows like twilight the hunman twi was shy quiet very timid while pony twi was more outgoing
0 likesI really like the idea about her fate being between the worlds, but I also I am keen on the idea that may be what a loud Sunset to use the mirror in the first place was the accidental passing of her reflection counterpart. Once she had used the mirror enabled by this passing of her counterpart, it would’ve been possible for Twilight. This theory basically puts sunset as a type of living key to the door between worlds, but you can’t try to open the lock from both sides at the same time. Which is why I suspect the other one had to pass away first. Maybe as things hit a crescendo and Sunsets life as celestia’s as student, there were some kind of other drastic event happening in the other world. An event the deprived that world of its Sunset. Allowing her to deprive her own world of a Sunset in turn.
0 likesI actually do agree with your theory on sunset not having a human counterpart since it makes more sense than her randomly leaving
0 likes“Any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic.” -Arthur C. Clarke.
0 likesI think that humanity’s magic is our ability to make creative solutions to seemingly insurmountable problems. So perhaps, Sunset is basically a supervillain.
These therories about Sunset are really mysterious, but I've also got a question.
0 likes"Where is the human Starlight?"
Would she also control the people like the pony Starlight, and how would she be able to do so? Think about, if there might be another Sunse who we don't know of. Shouldn't there also be a human Starlight who is just how her pony part was? Controling over the humans and maybe wanting ONE society with her as the leader. And if there is a Starlight is she also in a villlage controlling over the humans and "brainwashing" them that a society with special talents is bad.
What do you think?
I actually have an idea of my own. What if like pony sunset, she wanted either musical ability or scientific knowledge, and, Celestia or one of the caretakers denied this. She was so problematic that they may have threatened expulsion.
0 likes(Example she was moving too fast for her class an needed to wait for everyone to catch up but kept interrupting class and causing trouble)
This was the deciding factor for her so, she ran away. Due to magic, or lack therefore of, instead of going to the pony world, she runs away to another country (possibly illegally)
She does this without telling anyone, so she is declared missing. When pony sunset crosses over they declared her found, so she took the life of original sunset.
That’s just my theory anyways.
yeah I wanted to know that too on the show, I hope they eventually bring her into the human equestria show, at some point
0 likesActually, I believe there are 2. In the first film we see sunset shimmer, her unicorn magic is teal. The next time we see her,it’s red. This makes me believe that at some point the 2 Sunsets swapped and therefore meaning their magic is different colours because they are not the same person.
0 likesSunset Shimmer is one of the most mysterious ponies
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I’ve heard something that human Sunet doesn’t exist in the human world.
26 likes@Terminator 156 what if she lives far far away
11 likesI think sunset is a fish and not a human from the short you can see a fish that looks a lot like sunset
13 likes@fuana shiroikage That's a funny fact. I lov it heheh.
7 likesLo
1 likeO o”:
@Gamergirl11 n,h ills. Hi
I guess but for me the most mysterious in mlp is human twilight
3 likes@fuana shiroikage yea highly possible the fish was her counterpart and turned into that fish cause of the magic
3 likes@fuana shiroikage
1 likeBest. prediction. ever.
and beautiful
2 likesThe bones play sach fire the same way Google
1 likeSensex the humans that sucks because she was first the sensor
1 like@B Slade poor her imagine become a fish
2 likes@Terminator 156 Plz spell sunset right!!!
0 likesAs soon as Sawtooth mentioned a lust for power, a need to fell superior, and a want to feel important I thought of politics. Who knows she could be off somewhere purging a senator ship or something.
0 likesHonestly your right about Sunset never engaging in physical contact with anyone (unless you count almost hurting a portal😭) Which i don’t cuz she thought that was the only way to get everything she wanted so she probably didn’t resort to hurting her counterpart especially cuz it would’ve taken time to find her counterpart which would have distracted her from becoming the most powerful being of the school so i think your theory honestly is pretty good
0 likesI have a few head canons sunset met here counterpart, but Celestia's warning was something actually legitimate and not a bs excuse to not have multiple versions running around. and the two met initially they were friends living together but sunset's presence upset the balance and they either merged into a single new being, or the universe final destinationed their asses the one with the least will power the human sunset. didn't survive hc 2: they met they both exist but human sunset adopted her as a sister. but ironically the mirror had made the pony sunset into a teen to compensate for there being two people who were the same and that is why we don't see her, sunset was the equivalent age of a college student so she's currently at college. sunset met but their meeting freaked human sunset and she ran infront of a bus accidently killing her. hc three hinges on the possibility that sunset was celestia's daughter, birth during hot love making with marvel's thor(dc cinematic universe) the two gods got it on like donkey kong and sunset was created. and since there are no dimension hopping asgardians in the pony human world that celestia never had kids.
1 likethis isn't one prethought up but what if it ended up let jet li's the one or highlander and the two sunsets had to off the other one to survive.
Can we get a backstory lore theory for where Mistmane is from? They totally gloss over it, and I just HAVE to know!!! Where are her people? Are they all gone? Or just far away?
1 likeThe cutie mark theory is hella possible
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true
16 likes@Non existent its at 0:31-0:56 (sorry if i got the timestamps off😓)
16 likesit makes so much sense
8 likes@Jasmine N. right
7 likesFive mins ago and alredy 1.1k!?😱
3 likesWhat cutie mark theory?
3 likesYeah, i dont really see what her cutie mark is supposed to mean. i mean it is a sun, which celestia has aswell but the human world and pony world theory seemes kinda logical 😂
3 likes@Lea Howlett from the 0:31 to 1:10
0 likesSo I'm just going to throw this out there, 'cause why not. For a while, I had a theory that not only was Sunset a time traveler from Equestria's future, but that she was also the daughter of Starlight Glimmer and Sunburst. I went back and forth in my head about the questions that would follow with that: Why would she travel to the past? Did she know her parents? What led her to being Celestia's student?
0 likesWell, she could've been the product of an alternate timeline, where Starlight and Sunburst happen to have a kid. But it also could've been a timeline where Chrysalis was still around and trying to go after Starlight and her family. So in a desperate attempt to protect their daughter, they sent her (as a baby) to the past using magic. From there, she was brought up as an orphan, discovered by Celestia, became her student, and you know the rest.
Not only could that answer why there's no human Sunset, but also why she was so willing to go to the human world in the first place. She didn't leave much behind in Equestria, and she could have hoped to know where she came from and who she is.
At one point, a long time ago, I started to write an MLP/Star Wars Rebels fanfic that had the original Sunset Shimmer kidnapped as a child and raised by Mandelorians, under the name of Sabine Ren. At least, Sabine's original hair and skin color seemed to match up pretty well.
0 likesSadly, that fic was in my laptop when its OS decided that the latest update was too much to handle, and the only repair was to completely wipe the drive. Also, I fell out of MLP around Season 6 due to a show wall.
Too bad, too. I think Darth Sombra would have made a solid villain.
another theory I have is that Sunset's counterpart was cinch's student. In the song "Unleash the Magic"
0 likesShe mentions having 1 or maybe 2 smart students, and looking back and seeing that a few counterparts like starswirl and twilight are scientists in the human world (human twilight was also in crystal prep, where she studied science and tech mostly. possibly where starswirl studied too, so it would make sense) since there used to be no magic to study, maybe Sunset's counterpart was BECOMING a scientist (in the process of studying) Then the pony world sunset took her identity through some sort of system (Foster care or orphanage?) and put her under the radar by possibly making everyone believe she was the human sunset, never to be seen again.
My sister always wanted the Sunset from the human world to move to Equestria. Like, there was some sort of imbalance with 2 Sunsets in the same world, and the 7 would have to find her and introduce her to the other world, and she would eventually want to stay in Equestria.
0 likesRandom theory: Human Sunset came to the pony world when Pony Sunset came to the Human world. She could have gotten lost, or started exploring Equestria, and not know how to get back, and she could be living as a pony somewhere on the borders of Equestria, or even outside Equestria.
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I WAS THINKING THAT
41 likesThat's basically what I am thinking plus it would be fun if at the same time they both entered the portal effectively switching Places
46 likesAnd as a fun alternative they could of fuesed into one being with there cuttie mark representing both the two worlds and the two beings fused into one
47 likes@Sebay465 that actually is a strong possibility
21 likesBut she'd enter through the mirror and by doing so, would come across the guards and Celestia.
8 likes@Zapacunotres Tru dat.
1 like@Zapacunotres maybe she uses the other portarl that are all over equestria (like we saw in that eqg special)
7 likesI have seen all the episode of Equestria girls and movies and never seen like that Silly
0 likes@Parneet Kaur It’s just a random theory, it’s not necessarily true.
1 likeMeanwhile human sunset in Equestria living secluded on a farm countrside and enjoying simple life cause she wanted to get out of the stressful busy city of her human world absolutely oblivious about her counterpart wrecking havoc in heir world and afterwards saving it multiple times
7 likesOh yes!!
1 likeCool
1 likeBut if the human sunset and pony sunset changed places then twilight and the others would have known..
0 likesbecause twilight n the others also visited out of equestria like griffin stone or the mount aris..
that doesn’t exactly make sense. remember in the first movie when Equestria Twilight went through the portal back home? when human Pinkie tried to follow her, she wasn’t allowed to go through. she just hit straight rock, because she isn’t from that world. I feel like the same rule would apply to, and if there is the human Sunset Shrimmer.
3 likeslove how he just casually begins the vid with "sunset shimmer is a nexus being" and then just kinda moves on to "or she's a failed musician"
0 likesI was talking with friends a month or so back about a thery that sunset was ment to be in the human relm from the beginning, and by that thinking I though maybe sunsets pony counterpart is supposed to be starlight (part of why I kinda like it is that is can be used as a trans metaphor but there really isn't proof for this) but considering how their lives are similar but not exact like all the rest of the counter parts I think there is room for this theory.
2 likesbut alternatively there could just not be a counterpart for her, alot of crystal prep and some from canterlot high don't have a counterpart.
She was evil when she first stepped in the human world. Guessing she killed her human part or maybe she didn’t
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I don't think it involves killing because, duh, its MY LITTLE PONY. EVEN THE TITTLE IS CUTE!
0 likesI think what really happened to Sunset's human version was that maybe she knew she had to get rid of the human version when she first came so she killed her??? Wouldn't it be possible? And no one ever suspected anything, since Sunset's pony-self was still there. This unlocks a world of possibilities!
0 likesThe first thing I thought when I saw Sunset's cutie mark was "Yin/Yang?" And then nothing came of it.
805 likesI like your "she IS the connection" theory the best.
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Oh yeah that's a good point
6 likesShe is the balance of evilness and goodness
22 likessame
4 likes@Dreamisdreaming I mean she IS the Element of Forgiveness, so-
8 likesI think you were right on with the failed musician part about Sunset but if you're thinking like that you need a export for it. Think of it like human Sunset was an music artist that was trying to make her goal reality but whenever she asked different producers they don't accept her at all. What I'm thinking is that from her failure of music and no producers wanting to produce her music she runs away to a far place so she can play her music to herself and even keeping her identity hidden from everyone else such as wearing a hoodie and a mask to cover her face whenever she is out in public, but like I said this is just a theory on her musical talent.
1 likeIn another video , waves says that sunset is older than twilight and the others so she might still be in college or a university. Maybe pursuing the goal of being a musician as sawtooth said by trying to learn more about it just like her pony counterpart was attending a school to learn more about magic.
0 likesDear Sawtooth waves,
0 likesthere is one mystery that i wanted to know for a long time.
How Sci Twi get her wings? Like how and why did she earn them?
She has wings in the human world when she ponies up but when she
goes to the human world she is not an alicorn.
To me, being an alicorn in the pony world is a very big deal
as it is usually destined for Rulership or royalty.
Hopefully you can make a wonderful theory and tell me the answer cus
sometimes i cant sleep not knowing.
From: One of your fans:)
Saw tooth needs to make more theoriesss I lovee them💞 there just so good could you do about mlp new gen I'd love to hear your fanstastic thoughts on why magic has disappeared and Pegasus lost their feathers and stuff maybe someone pulled a mega cozy glow 🤭
2 likesIf she did have a human counterpart she would have been very confused when the one we know became famous by both being in a movie and being part of a famous band. So why didn't she seek the one we know out after all that stardom.
0 likesMy theory: The sunset we all know is actually the human counterpart and she knew about the other world before the rest of the human counterparts. The pony counterpart is somewhere deep in equastria
1 likeThere's also a strong chance that she was alive but died bwfore all this. From cancer to a car accident, we have no idea. For all we know, she could have been a victim of human trafficking and lives on a while other continent. There's so much going on in our basic world that so many things could have killed her off or kept her away from everything before now
0 likesI'be been asking the same question so many times but there wasn't a clear answer from people until sawtooth gave us an answer from him.
1 likeActually, it was confirmed that there was originally going to be a human Sunset, but they scrapped the idea or something, there's a Dr. Wolf video about that :)
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Link?
3 likes@♡Veclipse♡ https://youtu.be/0kfydGeOHEg
8 likesThx
2 likes@♡Veclipse♡ You're welcome :)
1 likeI’ve heard the creators say that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
15 likes@Terminator 156 heard doesn't mean you have proof. So yeah. And stuff changes.
17 likesChristinewhoYT: It doesn’t matter at the end G4 is long gone.
4 likesalways love your videos, keep it up!
0 likesIs no one gonna talk about how Starlight has two different magic auras? In the original Equestria girls, she has a sea foam green aura, but when she goes to the pony world in the cruise ship movie, she heads to the pony world through the quicksand portal and uses a red aura. May just be inconsistency, but something to think about
0 likesSunset originally lives in Canterlot or somewhere else. She just used the mirror to travel in the human world in order to escape with the crown. She has been there before since she wasn't surprised when the crown went through the mirror. There's only one sunset
0 likesI had a pet theory for awhile that, like EqSunset, HuSunset kind of ran away from home. But without knowledge of magic, she stole a boat, got caught in a storm, and has been Professor-ing it up on some uncharted island somewhere.
0 likesThis also raises more questions! What about chrysalis? Or discord? Or literally any of the non pony or dragon characters?
4 likesI like the idea of Sunset being the Avatar bringing the spirit...
0 likesWhoops, wrong universe. The point is I like the idea of her not even having a counterpart
I have a theory that the human sunset found a natural portal, and went to live on as a pony from a young age and pony sunset went on to live as a human (which weirdly enough also ties in with her cutie mark like, in a "they switched worlds" kinda way)
0 likesThe idea that Sunset stole her counterpart's life was disproven when we got to see where she lives in the music video. No parents. She's squatting in an abandoned commercial space that she's fixed up to be livable. And Celestia's high school is weirdly accommodating to mysterious teenagers who show up out of nowhere with no educational records, almost as if they know they're sitting on an interdimensional portal and are prepared to cover for the occasional immigrant.
0 likesSunset has living parents, she just hates them. I speculate that they are part of the Canterlot aristocracy and their snobbery and demands that she be successful and perfect are what drove her away and meant that losing her apprenticeship means that instead of returning to them she instead ran as far away from them as she possibly could. Which could explain why we don't see Sunset's counterpart. Like pony Sunset, after she failed at something she ran. She ran so far away. She had to get away. She's not in Equestria though. Given her magic talent and pride and ambition she would have ended up as one of the villains that the Mane 6 have to deal with. But she will be as far as she can possibly get from where she was born. I like to imagine her as the mysterious foreign student in some Japanese cartoon we've never heard of.
Here’s what I’ve always thought: sunset never actually belonged in equestria, she was always meant to be in the human world, but being born in Equestria, it made that difficult, when she rebelled against Celestia and went to the human world, she found where she was meant to be, and found where she was supposed to call her home, it might sound like a stretch, but that’s what I think.
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Why would Sunset be born in Equestria if she was meant to be in the human world?
0 likes@ADF dunno, nothing is perfect, but if she wasn’t meant to be there, she’s there anyhow, and has been for heaven knows how long, soo 🤷🏽
1 likeI'd like to think that Sunset scared the other Sunset off, and she went to homeschooling until she graduated, and the moved away as soon as she could because she was still afraid of Sunset finding her, and wasn't aware of how Sunset was nice and reformed now. I'd also like to think she reinvented herself so no one would confuse her for Sunet. Maybe some hairdye and a new fashion sense. My headcanon new name for her that she chose is Sunshine Rise. Or Sunshine Days, inspired by the G3 pony Sunny Daze
0 likesI cant wait to see what Sawtooth does with the new gen of mlp but there are still so many possible things and questions we still have in gen 4 will those be answered in gen 5? I highly doubt it though
0 likesMy Theory on human Sun Shim was always that maybe she was in Juvi. Think about it.
1 likeWhen we first meet sunset, she’s evil. What would the human counterpart be?
A criminal.
I at least always thought that would make a pretty cool plot line.
My theory is that Sunset came to the human world and was homeless for a few years until she turned 15/16 (when she was able to be rented to legally). But about the facts — in order to get into school those few years, she would’ve had to either be adopted or make fake legal documents. We know she lives alone, and has never mentioned adoptive system etc, so that’s why I assume she was homeless (living in an abandoned building or something) and she definitely had to make fake legal documents for fake parents/etc.
0 likesThat’s the only way I could see around it, it’s not really related to this video, but I do believe personally in the "link" theory!
Pony sunset had a rebellious nature and was banished to the human world. Perhaps human sunset had a rebellious nature and is frequently in juvie.
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
26 likes@Terminator 156 that sounds like excuses to me
34 likesShe wasn’t banished to the human world, she ran away to the human world.
33 likesIf you look at her reaction when her memory was wiped away in one of the shorts, Sunset panics at the site of her human form and begs for Celestia.
@Terminator 156 i know you're probably just trying to inform everyone but holy cow how did you mange to reply on so many comments-
2 likes@Terminator 156 but the creators initially said they’d talk about where human sunset shimmer is in a scrapped equestria girls finale so she definitely does exist
1 likeNah She’s kind now 🥰🥰🥰And plus she came back to eqastria 1-2 times
0 likesSería genial que este video tuviera subtítulos en español para poder entenderlo :"D
0 likesThere was a video of yours that didn't even have access to the comments... I will comment that I prefer your hinge theory because of Sunset's complex character. She's literally one of a kind. That doesn't change her friendship with both Twilight's, (and I'm sorry, even if she is the hinge between the two worlds, I still ship her and human Twilight, because of their chemistry)
1 likeTwo theories I have is that a sunset in the human world went to crystal prep like twilight did, but got expelled for going to extremes in pursuit of her academic goals, or something similar like pony sunset that made her power hungry and get kicked to somewhere else. Maybe she even had to move away?
0 likesSecond one is that when human sunset was real little she wandered through the portal somehow, or a different one(?) And was deemed missing. She grew up in Equestria possibly at an orphanage or something and led a separate and different life from our sunset, and when our sunset went to the human world she was deemed a found missing child, so it solves where she's been living this whole time.
They both have horrible plot holes but then again the movies are kinda living contradictions in a way, they're a huge mess plot-wise.
I have no idea! This question has been pondering my mind since the equestrian games movie came out! It’s all so confusing and well if sunset traveled to the human world when she was young then why would the human one not have? The next problem would be sunset should have been living in canterlot and maybe she would’ve been a self-centered unicorn like Trixie? Gah there’s to many unanswered questions! I like your “Sunset in the link” idea best
0 likesI just always thought that the Human World Sunset just traveled to Equestria because the normal Sunset did the reverse lol
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That's what exactly i thought
20 likesThe creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
34 likes@Terminator 156 interesting
4 likesSame
3 likes@Terminator 156 just like starlight glimmer
8 likesI thought the same
1 likeWouldn’t they notice sunset though? Equestria isn’t too big, and news travels kinda fast? You would think they would notice?
9 likesLol
1 likeOr maybe sunset is from the human world and the pony sunset is missing?
2 likesTheory: Human Sunset probably wanted to try getting smarter in school getting higher grades, but when she started to fail more and more, she raged and just quit, running off to celestia knows where. She'd probably find an alternate portal to equestria and head there and live in the shadows throughout the rest of her days, never being seen from or heard from again, enclosed in her own anger and self-pity in a corner of the world no one would ever find her.
0 likesOk here is a kind of spooky theory: Did you notice that Sunset Shimmer's hair color slightly changed between Rainbow Rocks and the Friendship-Games? It went from a strong yellow to a paler shade of yellow. At first I thought that it was made intentionally as a kind of symbolism: Sunsets personality has gotten a loooot softer over time. But here starts my theory: What if somehow the human Sunset replaced pony sunset between the second and third movie. I know it maybe seems far-fetched, but that would explain her haircolor and the fact why she was so careless and thought that DELIBERATELY inviting her human friends to ponyville was a good idea in one of the movies (I can't remember which one sorry >_<)
0 likesimagine the regular sunset we know wasnt actually born in equestria and was actually born in the human world who at a young age traveled to equestria for a while but then was sent back by celestia oh em gee
0 likesNew viewer💗🇨🇦😎So, given your OC pony... I take it you’re into synth waves when it comes to making music??? Do you make your own remixes???
0 likesI like how alternative sunsets ambitions don't really matter if the reason she's on the down low is because she failed at something then of course her pride would keep her going until she burnt out.
119 likesI’m just thinking, could it be that because she would go to the human world so often, her human counterpart just faded away along with anyone’s memories of her?
2 likeshonestly when I was young I thought the true human sunset was in prison somewhere in the human world, given the pony sunset's original destructive and self-serving nature. I swear Im not crazy LOL
0 likesCould you please do a video about the necklaces the human six wear specifically how those stones have magic? I love your videos this one is very well done . please consider my request
0 likesI like your idea of only one sunset but as said this is highly unlikely. As we see every other character seems to have a human counter part. SEEMS to.
0 likesFinally someone actually asks this question that I’ve wondered
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I've never wondered that
6 likesBut now I do
6 likesright?!
3 likesI've also wondered that.
3 likesThe creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
2 likesI have been wondering this for a long time
2 likes@Terminator 156 so the Human Sunset does exist, but we don't know where is she lives or where she could be. Or (a crazy theroty) how about she's not even been born yet
2 likes@Elliott Tafel that is something i never thought about like.... what if shes not born yet🤯
1 likeWe know that Sunset is Celestia’s ex-student. Interpret that into human knowledge. An expelled student. What if Sunset is working a job somewhere in the show? Like as a waitress?
0 likesi feel like the human sunset studied the magic of singing in CHS and fell through the portal one of the 30 moons and fell into magic . I really wish it was Adagio i have this feeling they are connected...
0 likesI personally feel like human SS might've been killed but not by pony SS, possibly magic
0 likesPony SS got so distraught by her death that she began to rebel and hated magic to the point she was willing to use it as a weapon to show how dangerous it could be but took it too far
Fun theory, sunset is actually an orphan from the human world that somehow was sent into equestria. Therefore the "other" sunset could still be somewhere in equstria
0 likes"Perhaps her pride and ambition would latch on to something else"
559 likesMy wierdly crime-driven mind: A gang leader or a Mafia Boss!
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hey, who knows!
118 likesMy dumb mind: Politician!
57 likesHey, your pic is from the anime "Melodias and Elizabeth", right?
14 likes@Rosella yeah
6 likes@floverpot 13 I like it. It's of the previous Fairy King.
5 likesBy 'ambition' I don't think she wants power or to rush rewards. She's competitive. She NEEDS to actually be the best at what she's doing, rewards or no. It's not about the Parakeet!
9 likes@Rosella Seven Deadly Sins
2 likesIs what it’s really called
Human Sunset doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.
3 likes@Shae yeah, you are right.
1 like@Sawtooth Waves What if we already have seen the human sunset shimmer? that's right I'm say the Sunset Shimmer that betrayed celestia is the human sunset shimmer.
5 likesthere is three facts in the comic The fall of Sunset Shimmer.
1 She is an orphan when celestia found her.
2 She doesn't remember much.
3 she asked this: Where are my hands?
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1 likeYour mind ain't weird for thinking that.
3 likesFrom the design of Sunset during that line, it was easy to think biker gang at the least
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1 likeSunset shimmer a Yakuza chairwoman lol
3 likesI thought that too!!
2 likes@Sawtooth Waves Sawtooth you won't believe it. Before you had uploaded this video on YouTube I saw a dream in which it was like Sunset ran in the room where the portal to the human world was (the mirror) And then entered it. Within a second she was in the human world and then she saw her human counterpart. They both shrieked and then Sunset covered the mouth of her human counterpart she spotted a place where nobody was going and took here there. She asked all sorts of questions which her human counterpart answered. After all her doubts were clear she gave an evil grin and said "I will take your place now" she kidnapped her and locked her in a nearby shop which was abandoned. She kept giving her food and water . After she got reformed she went to the place where she had locked her human counterpart and let her go and said " Go to another school and let us not cross paths" again and that was the last time she saw her human part.
1 likeThis was my dream you thought she killed her and saw she kidnapped her.
Me who thought human sunset was dead-
1 like@I stan too many groups! Check em out in my about me to!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves As a poetic theory, maybe Sunset Simmer doesn't have another version of her in the human world. And what about Starlight Glimmer, she too may not have one too in the human world as well. The names of these two are literally the complete opposite of elements, Sunset being the lasting sunlight, the harmony and guidance between both worlds, and Starlight, as in deep nightlight, the harmony and guidance of mainly the world of equestria and the harmony ambassador between the two worlds!! Just like the princess Celestia and Luna( they however do have human counterparts), but the only differences from these two is that Sunset, Starlight pair do not have human counterparts in the human world at all!!
1 like@Sawtooth Waves After the Fall Formal, Twilight Sparkle and Spike return to the ponyverse and bring Sunset Shimmer to Princess Celestia. Princess Celsstia took Sunset's horn away and send her to jail but now Sunset Shimmer can't teleport and she's an Earth Pony. 🎊🎉🎈🌌✨🐲🌅👑☀️😡🦄☹️🐴🪞
0 likesThere's something else you should know by now; the mirror which leads to both Equestria and our world? It'll leave one naked without an extra pair of clothes. Don't go through without a second pair, your's will rip if you have them on.
0 likesHere’s a theory. I don’t think the original versions just disappear as Princess Celestia makes it seem to the Mane 6 ( minus T.S. ). I think they’re still there. What Celestia meant was that if the originals, the ones we see in Ponyville, and their human versions see each-other, that something will happen. Presumably dark magic? Maybe.
0 likestrue true absoloutely true! And yeah, we just actually never saw a human counterpart of sunset!Maybe they will show us her later in the show.It might even be that sunset HAS a human counterpart and they know eachother which they keep swapping around with the mane six.I just hope they actually reveal one cause that would make an exciting story!:)
0 likesOk I just wanted to say this, a pony going to the human world and trying to use a phone would probably be like a 75 year old trying to use a modern phone. 😂
0 likesWell, when we see that Sci-Twi was originally at a different school in the same city and only met the rest of her world's mane 6 because of a long standing interschool rivalry, plus shenanigans around the newly emerging magic, it is more than possible that EQG world Sunset is simply also elsewhere in her world, whether she's a failure or not. If another world copy of any of us popped into existence anywhere but near where we lived, and didn't become famous, or infamous, enough to draw world wide attention to themselves would we even know, except by the rarest of chance meetings? Look at when someone becomes famous, say by being elected to high office, and the media finds a doppelganger. No one knew until one was elected president or something that the other existed. If Sunset becomes that famous her human world double may appear, if she doesn't reach that level of infamy, we may never know. Unless Hasbro, because toys, lol.
89 likes(Sorry for this being long it was just a lot of stuff to say)
1 likeI once saw a fan art with I believe it was she-demon painted on Sunset's locker and her running away crying. This lead me to think human Sunset is avoiding people in Canterlot because no matter what kind of bullying it is there will always be people who think it's wrong and openly called out that person. I think happened was all of the hate that Pony Sunset gained was put on her human counterpart. I think this is likely because we see from the pictures of Sunset as Princess of the Fall Formal she looks so nice in the first picture even if it was an act why would pre-reform Sunset act nice if it didn't benefit her in someway. So if she was acting like her nice human counterpart imagine how her human counterpart felt all of a sudden all of your friends and the people you go to school with start calling you names and saying you're a horrible person and you have no way of knowing why. You'd want to leave and tell no one so they have no way of finding you.
It's really unknown to weather Sunset Shimmer even has a human world Counterpart, it's probably to make Sunset more unique but it would be interesting to see.
0 likesAlso I don't really think Sunny was evil enough to Kill someone prior to the first EQG so therefore Human world Sunset is still alive.
I love this theory. I believe the sunset shimmer in human world could be regular girl with some pride, has musical talent of her own and attends a different school. What would happen if the two meet and sunset shimmer feels she's fulfilled her duty between the world's. Does she plan to go back to Equestria and let her human counterpart take over as new member to learn more about friendship. Since she has been with human counterparts for so long. Is it possible just like Twilight and good deeds done in human world She has means to be an Alicorn as and continue duty to protect both worlds from Equestria side? but visit human world from time to time help in battle against any villans?
0 likesWhat if Human Sunset went to the Pony Realm and want to stay there just like the Sunset we know? If she is then she probably lives somewhere that is neither Ponyville nor Canterlot, somewhere like Manhattan or other places in Equestria
0 likesi absolutely love how you're STILL making conspiracy theories about MLP even after its finished. not to be sentimental, but i still cannot believe you're still so dedicated to this, ive known/watched you create this stuff since like 2015 and you're still here and stuff jawnhetihahiawhtiuwtaw
47 likesIf sunset was forgetful and kept saying "what are you talking about, I never did that. Then I would say she never did anything and her human version did everything her friends thought she did which would explain a lot like why we haven't seen her before but she doesn't say that and isn't forgetful.
0 likesOr maybe it should be "when". I mean think about it, it isn't impossible for her human form to be in a different time. But it may be rare. As you said, yes her cutie mark may mean that. But as we all know everyone has a human counterpart. It can't be that sunset just doesn't have a counterpart. So she could possibly be in a different timeline.
0 likesThere was actually a cancelled one-hour long special that focused on why magic has been following the Equestria Girls everywhere and what happened to the human Sunset. However, that special was changed to the Holidays Unwrapped shorts.
0 likesMy theory is that the human sunset passed away due to a sickness or accident or maybe she travelled somewhere else and it was a perfect opportunity for this sunset to continue human sunset’s life, especially since in the mlpeg movie there were photos that had sunset as a kid when pony sunset left at a bit of an older age.
0 likesIf I recall correctly, I think the writers did have plans to bring human world Sunset Shimmer into canon, but unfortunately Equestria Girls got the short end of the stick and was canceled before those ideas could see the light of day.
85 likesThere must be 2 theories: 1. She is in the unique circle, I'm asking where is pony timberspruce; aria blaze; sonata dusk and human starlight, sunburst. Some of the characters only exist in one world. Those two worlds can't be a copy of each other, so there must be some unique figures.
1 like2. Your picture has already show that, in s2, we noticed sunset has something different, that could be real human sunset. And that one also gains memories reader ability! Or maybe just because sunset reaches teen age. So i like theory 1
I have a head cannon that sunset shimmer forced herself into the human world for a long time, and this over time upset the balance of the worlds until the worlds decided to correct themselves and swallowed human sunset to equestria as a consequence of pony sunset staying in the human world for too long.
0 likeswhat if sunset from the human world did the same thing as sunset from equestria? travel to somewhere else? we never know if there's magic outside where the story is based on, maybe the sunset from the human work discovered magic somehow and travelled to another dimension just as sunset from equestria.
0 likesLook at twilight in the human world, loved by Celesta and ends up one of the most popular students in the school, my theory is is that it was the same for sunset, but She was over took by the love and attention she was getting from others, she eventually grew selfish and mean and started taking affection that she didn’t deserve. Look at the first movie and the pictures of sunset, I think the last one is OUR sunset but all the others are the human sunset. As to where she is I have a theory for that to, like sunset in Equestria, I think sunset left and tried to get power and attention somewhere else, like another school or something, so with the original sunset leaving a year prior, our sunset cloud learn about everyone and etc. 😀
0 likes“Perhaps her pride and ambition would latch onto something else”
446 likesMe: politics
“Music”
Me: oh
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That's what I thought he meant, too!
9 likesHow did he get music from that
0 likesI didn’t recognize Sawtooth until I realized “hey wait The Brony Notion got a revamp”
3 likesPerhaps she is like the Twilight from Crystal Prep-all studious, sciency and not knowing magic
0 likesI think that copy of sunset in human version without mane 6 would be too much of a threat. 2 sunsets would be threat to society, so directors decided to leave one Shimmer in space-time 😩
0 likesThere has been talk about maybe a 2 part story of human counter Sunset Shimmer, but she turns out to be evil at first and nearly kills Sunset Shimmer. Then later on after the human turns good, she asks to go to Equestria and Sunset gets to graduate with her friends. Sunset DID NOT kill her human counterpart because this is too violent to comprehend and that is not what the show is about.
0 likesImagine Sunset Shimmer cutie mark represents a moon inside a sun… I would rather have her in the royal problem than Starlight, but that’s just my opinion! Love the video👍✨
0 likesI would think there was one. Mainly because we’ve seen human counterparts for everyone else, but here’s what I’m thinking. I have 2 theories. The first one is pretty whacked out but what if at one point human Sunset Shimmer came to Equestria to live a life. She found a portal and went through it to find there was magic in this new world. She decided travel all throughout this new world and see what it was about, but at the same moment Pony Sunset went through the portal to the human world. It’s a bit of a messy theory but it would explain how no one has mentioned another Sunset and why we haven’t seen a human Sunset. The other theory makes a bit more sense. The other Sunset simply goes to another school. We don’t know exactly where Sunset is from but my thinking is she isn’t from Ponyville, Canterlot, or the Crystal Empire. It’s more likely she’s from a small town like Starlight was. So thinking that, the human Sunset might go to another school in a different town unaware of anything that’s going on at Canterlot High. I think since she didn’t have Magic to corrupt her, I would think she would be in a position of wanting to help people like a counselor or like Sawtooth said, a musician. Both theories are pretty out there, but it might give a little insight on what our human Sunny is up to!
0 likesWell we know that Sunset is from Equestria and she lived in Canterlot. After, she moved in the human world and that's her new place now, so if there's a human Sunset, maybe she did something similar ? Maybe she was in CHS a long time ago, but she moved far away ? Perhaps even in an another world (but I don't think so personally and mostly not in Equestrian world because the Mane 6 would've known about that, certainly).
0 likesHonestly, I think It starts with her parents
0 likesNo one has seen them yet or have been introduced, and it wouldn't be impossible for someone from the pony realm to fall in love with another in the human realm.
We'll call the parents Flick (Pony royal guard) and Daisy ( a young adult training to be a nurse). I'm gonna make the theory somewhat quick though-
Flick is guarding a room (assigned by Celestia), of which he doesn't know the reason why, and then proceeds to sneak in to find out. He finds the mirror, falls in, then meets Daisy who was walking by. She offers to help him and he accepts. She checks him over and confirms he's ok- but the stories he tells about a pony world makes her worry. He leaves, letting her help him back, and promises to return, to which he enters the portal. She becomes baffled at the sight, then assumes she's going crazy. This thought is erased however as he returns the next day. They converse, and to her surprise, other people see him too. His short and brief moments in her life makes her happy- as her private and social life are not the best and she considered going away from it all. She tells this all to flick, to which he offers to bring her to his world. She accepts and follows him into his realm. She feels lighter there, and then begins to visit him instead. After a while, she chooses to stay in equesteria, and flick holds no obligations. no one was told about this continuous back and forth of the two, as she was welcomed into the community without even being known as a human. After a while, they have Sunset, who would have the bonds from the human world, and the pony world and therefore have no alt of herself as she would be the creation of both sides.
It wouldn't explain who took her in, but Daisy and Flick could have had some slip ups on where she use to live or have Flick rest as the two conversed about his home realm as the two decided not to let anyone else know about it.
now if I put a ton of details in- it'd be much longer lol.
Perhaps the human Sunset exists, but lives in another place or another city. Unfortunately, too few episodes were released on Equestria Girls. I would like to see more EG seasons. Perhaps we would then have opened the story of human Sunset. I think generation 4 MLP and EG turned off too early. How many different stories we could see about our loved characters!
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EG definitely could and should keep going, I just fear 1. They’ve lost too much momentum in coming up on, what, nearly two years without any movies or episodes? And 2. They’d feel forced into including G5 characters into the series now, which I’d not be a fan of at all.
5 likesI’ve always thought they could keep it going as “the college years” (ala Saved by the Bell, haha). But I doubt Hasbro cares enough to produce and market something not specifically directed at little girls, despite the cultural reach the series had.
Okay, so we know human Twilight wouldn't have ended up in Canterlot if magic wasn't brought into their world and pony Twilight was there before her, building a reputation. We also know Sunset was a student of Celestia before Twilight, to the point where Twilight didn't even know Sunset. I think it's plausible to think human Sunset is probably older than the main six, and/or could also just live nowhere near there. I don't think human Sunset could have gone to Canterlot, though, since Celestia would definitely notice if she had two of the same looking students with the same names. She could have also gone to Crystal Prep, like Twilight, and graduated before Twilight met her, but then wouldn't the principal or vice principal notice pony Sunset at the Friendship Games?
1 likeWith all this information, I think either the first theory brought up in the video, which is that there is only a pony Sunset, is true or that the human Sunset simply doesn't live near the main six. The murder theory seems far-off, considering it's a children's show and I don't think Sunset could even pull it off with how little she probably knew about the human world at first. There's also a possibility that the other Sunset could just not exist since the creators of Equastria Girls didn't consider it or have any intention of introducing/hinting at her existence.
Ever since MLP:Equestria girls Movie came out I wondered where Sunset Shimmer was living and where could her human self be but I am pretty sure she didn't really kill her human self
1 likeHopefully we will see human Sunset Shimmer soon
Such good theories!! all of them. But honestly I think you nailed the first one and that might be the truth
0 likesTheory: since sunset was most likely the first pony to go to the human world Mabye the balence broke and caused the other sunset to stop existing and the only reason sci twi exists is because the balence is already broken.
0 likesMight as well rename this channel "The pony theorist" and call the day. Jokes aside, I think another possibility is that Human Sunset died, but not by the hands of pony Sunset, instead, she could've died by accident. Or, like for Twilight, she simply lives elsewhere, only much further away
42 likesi once read a fan-story where Human Sunset tried to become a Daring Doo/Indiana Jones style "archeologist-adventurer"...
0 likesbut died to a booty-trap in a tomb.
that was in "it's a screwed-up life", where the protagonist is a random fan who somehow got turned into Screwball.
I randomly think abaout this when the song release the magic was playing in my head on loop in 5am and the line "to find a student like you,i have one or maybe two,but the good ones disapear before i blink" make me think about sunset that sunset might have been in the same school as twilight before and then magically disapear,but then again when i think abaout it if sunset was in twilight school the teacher should have remember her but the fact that she isn't sure herself that she has a genius student once make me think that is not completly imposible for sunset to be in twilight school and the teacher just forgets about her ,and about twilight not knowing about sunset make me think like sunset was a senior or at least twilight has not come or entered the school before and when she does enter sunset had dissapeard a long time ago and so noone remembered her anymore,and human starlight might have been there as well since the teacher said she had one or maybe two,by watching in one of the episode when sunset and starlight get along very well make me think that human sunset and starlight might have been bestfriend and when sunset dissapeard starlight maybe start looking on why her friemd suddenly dissapeard and still trying to find out why till to this day
0 likesMaybe if the pony sunset found the way to the human world, the human sunset found the way to Equestria 🤷🏻♀️ or maybe she end up lost in the other not so pretty places we saw on the movie.
0 likesFor me, I think Sunset's human counter part lived in the different country so I guess that's why we didn't see her in the show
0 likesSunset is the best writing we'll ever get out of eqg, she's shrouded with mystery, and that gives us multiple variables to what happened in her life or what happened before she showed up. I think human sunset would be like that, except maybe her goal is to get her identity back from pony sunset after the she demon incident, it must've spread somewhere
65 likesand congrats on 400k :D
This is a kinda simple theory, but since the Equestria Sunset is not from around ponyville or since she doesn’t have anything to do with the maincharacters of the show… I think that the human Sunset doesn’t either if that makes sense. She is probably somewhere living her life having nothing to do with the main characters who live in both world in some way ‘near’ eachother.
0 likesI had a theory where what if the sunset that was introduced as a pony, was actually apart of the human world? And there’s a sunset in the pony world that we dont know abt? But there is many possibilities 😅
0 likesMy theory is she exists in another time period
0 likesThis is based on the fact that in the human world Celestia is an adult where as in the pony world she’s lived over 1000 years. This means that for a long time she only existed in the pony world.
2:49 A version from another world where be was a wizard
2 likes... sounds like a writing prompt
I’ve always wondered how many humans came to the pony world and lived as ponies. Would that be possible?
71 likesMy theory:
0 likesSunset was a amazing and hardworking student, so celestia showed her a secret thing for the school's staff, she wanted to use it but celestia told her she can't, she got greedy, when the SUN SET she went to the school with an all black outfit and took the thing, when they caught her they sent her to the death penalty and killed her, celestia was heartbroken but she couldn't stop the police since she's just the principal
(Really close to the pony sunset's backstory)
If Hasbro didn't make Equestria Girls the way they did with these Shorts and Later Specials, I'm sure we would've gotten a Definitive Answer on where Human Sunset is.
0 likesTheory:
1 likeSince she wanted power, then she either went into government or business, and I will only talk about the governmetn part, since business is to varied. And if we look at the main ways of getting government power, then they are:
Birth (Monarchy)
Military
Politics (Suport of the people)
Oligarchy (Getting a possition in government)
She is not royal, and unless she became an African warlord, then these two are ruled out. If she was a public politician, then she is not very known, since people would notice that there was another Sunset, which is the one from the pony world. And if it is oligarchy, then she is either not very known, not very powerfull and thus not very known, or powerfull enough to keep herself a secret and then might even know about the otehr Sunset.
And if you think this sounds like a stretch, then remember what pony Sunset was willing to do.
Since so far, it seems like everyone still lives around the same people in both worlds, it seems like OG Sunset would be a Canterlot High as she was Celestia’s student. Maybe she left Canterlot High around the same time that pony Sunset left Equestria (maybe even went to ANOTHER dimension) and our Sunset just plugged herself into the hole she left. Or maybe it’s like how human Twilight was at Crystal Prep despite human twilight not living in or near the Crystal Empire and she’s just at another school
0 likesCan we appreciate that effort for Sawtooth wave for posting videos for us to enjoy and they makes amazing content for us and they spend time making these videos and they makes our day even better and congrats on 400K subscribers! Keep it up 🎉
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Yeah, three cheers for Sawtooth Waves
1 likeI know this theory might not be true but i like to think it's possible: sunset shimmer was originally from the human world. (It would explain why there isn't another sunset, it's because we've already seen the human sunset.)
0 likesTo properly figure this one out, we would first need to know the origins of PONY sunset and cross-reference that with the human world. Like with human twilight, it's probably most likely that human sunset is just somewhere else in the human world since human sunset didn't get the same opportunities pony sunset had to actually get to the human world and canterlot high. Maybe pony sunset shimmer isn't even from canterlot like starlight glimmer so the chances of her coming across her human version is very minimal. At least thats my take on it lol EDIT: after watching the video what I mean is pretty much what was said lol
0 likesI love how Sawtooth's comment section is full of scientific facts and questions which are about a cartoon of ponies😆
0 likesNot like an insult to my little pony or anything
I have an video idea:
0 likesHow did mane six (+ Starlight) solve everything in episode "Fame and misfortune", because episode ended with them just huging and angry crowd was still outside the castle? Maybe Twilight and Starlight time traveler to fix everything.
My theory: In her past life (I’m going of reincarnation), she was a powerful unicorn who studied in dangerous fields of magic. Because of that, she ran an underground operation of sorts, passing as a librarian. She studied for a long time and had a high ambition to become an alicorn along side Luna and Celestia. Eventually, she looked at Star Swirls studies for guidance and remembered how he sent the sirens to another realm. She went to find any remain of the realm, and she did. A mirror. She jumped in and eventually got used to living there. She became a very respected woman in her town and became a sort of minor goddess of sort for them, before dying a little before Sunset came through the portal.
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So ur saying theres two pony sunsets in equestria? One good and one evil?
0 likes@shaju paul Kinda? Basically ones good (but died) and another is morally gray.
1 likeWe have to remember that Celestia banished Sunset Shimmer to that world as she said in the first movie, so I think Celestia holds the answer to the other Sunset Shimmer
0 likesI've got my idea: what if pony sunset is actually human sunset, and we should look for the original pony instead of original human sunset? I know it's crazy but still...
1 likeI think that since pony sunset ran away to the human world, human sunset ran away to Equestria and might be living in secret. Maybe she did go to canterlot high but met pony and they discussed swapping places. Sunset originaly from the human world might be travelling around Equestria!😊
2 likesI always thought that every alternative Sunset Shimmer was in a alternative world. Like pony Sunset went to the human would while human Sunset went to another alternative universe.
1 likeI’ve been binging MLP after years and watching some of your videos on the side, and I just want to say thank you for the years of entertainment you provided.
20 likesI imagine that considering in the pony world where ponies can be hundreds of years old, and how humans cant, that the sunset in the human world would have just peacefully lived a full life and died. Because clearly, sunset is supposed to be older yet her and twilight are the same age when transferred to the human world so there's clearly some aging stuff involved.,
0 likesI’ll admit that I’m honestly not a crazy fan of MLP. But after watching this video I have a question that I must ask. But does the show really have it’s own multiverse?
0 likesIf sunset shimmer did become ruler of equestria she would of been a very pretty pony with the ever flowing mane and tail.
0 likesI talked to my sister about what you said and she thinks Sunset Shimmer in the human world doesn't necessarily look like our Sunset. Maybe it's someone else I've already seen. How about Addagio ? She could be Sunset from Equestria Girls. The same about the purple haired girl with blue streaks could be Starlight Glimmer in Equestria Girls. 🤔 I don't know what to say. It seems silly to me. 😅
0 likesWell... I have always thought that, if they are infinite alternate realities, not every person of the world would have a counterpart in those realities, or they wouldn't be able to meet because they were born in different times... If every choice of us makes those realities different, and if we take into account the decissions of rest of the world, there may be even a world where there's no internet, where there's not a certain item or a certain person in there.
0 likesLet's not get too far: if your parents met by some sort of accident or coincidence, for example, if your dad spilled over something on your mom, what would have happened if he hasn't spilled anything on your mom, or if he spilled it over other person? Or if your mom came from the countryside and was exploring the city, what if she turned left, instead of right, and never encountered your dad? Exactly: You won't exist. And there may also be a chance that they met, but gave birth to a girl, instead of a boy, or viceversa...
There are infinite possibilities of what other realities may look like. So, it wouldn't be strange if there wasn't born a human version of Sunset Shimmer, or she WAS alive, or she will be born. I mean, Celestia is there, and she's supposed to be WAY older than every pony in Equestria, along with Luna, so, maybe she's older or younger than the Equestria Girls... Or maybe she lives at the other side of the world.
My Theory:
0 likesRemember in equestrian games, sunset shimmer unleashed the magic to get twilight out of the evil trance, but remember the glow outline of the wings and a horn she had, twilight had physical horns and but sunset didnt. Okay now think about sunny, the orange earth pony in new generation, she had the same glow outline that sunset had: maybe sunny belongs in the pony world and sunset belongs in the human world. I know sunny lives a thousand years after sunset but maybe that’s just magic fixing a wrong of forgetting the pony sunset. And yes, I also do know sunset was originally from the pony world but maybe her destiny was the human world and sunny’s Was the pony world?
Well. The guitar thing was done by pony sunset. We do know she wanted power so she could have gone for a politial route to that power.
0 likesHonestly my first theory was that sunset killed her human counterpart.
0 likesOr, what if the human sunset was having a horrible life and wanted to permanently get away from it all, so sunset granted her wish? And human sunset moved to Africa or something
Well, they were gonna make an hour-long winter special that would introduce us to Human Sunset and would lead to se. 3, but they just made the "Holidays Unwrapped" instead...
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I heard that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirmed by the creators.
2 likes@Terminator 156stop trying to lie to yourself because you should know that lying to yourself is bad basically. :/
3 likes@Terminator 156 bro one of the mlpeg WRITER revealed that there is a human sunset.. But they cancelled that idea and give us a shit ending
0 likeswell I like to think there is three theories behind this question one she doesn't exist or two she's dead.
1 likeor three she existed but in a different timeline.
i heard that theory about sunset killing her human counterpart, and the whole her human counterpart was a failed musicians might be true since if you look at sunset outfit, she does wear a rock type jacket and the fact she once
0 likesmy only question is does how long was sunset ben in the human world, and if she i guess took her human self away, was the human sunset still dated flash or was her sunset doing?
You took this question out from my own mind I mean I wonder that since we saw sunset go in the human world I even asked but I guess you did not see it also, I think the human world is really big just like equestria, so maybe the human sunset is out there somewhere out and maybe we did not see her because the movies and episodes didn't show the world out there instead, they only showed canterlot high. So now you know my suggestion, hope you like it
0 likesWhen I compared to Charlie Evans from Star Trek, he was completely lost in different worlds.
0 likesI think she would go into politics instead of music. Nothing better to satisfy her lust for power.
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Did... did you mean ‘lust’ for power...? 😳
0 likes@Artist Crimson Red Yes, yes I did
0 likes@LEDS okay cool! I didn’t want to be rude or anything!! I hope I didn’t come across that way
0 likes@Artist Crimson Red It's no problem at all, thank you for pointing it out to me. I try not to assume the tone of people who write on the internet too much. Too easy to assume wrong.
0 likes@LEDS okay cool! :)
0 likesThis just came to me. What if the pony Sunset is actually the Sunset from the human world and the pony Sunset didn't live in Equestria. The pony Sunset just lives somewhere to be unnoticed. Human Sunset went to Canterlot School and discovered the magic mirror that connects the 2 world and saw what it does. She became Celestia's student and turned evil and tried to take over Equeatria and so on.
0 likesNecesito subtitulos al español 😭😭😭🙌🏻
0 likesRemember that ponyvill and Canterlot were not the only places in equestria just like how there won't be just the town in human world so original human sunset could be in another part of the world because we don't hear about anyone else in another place from the human world... if that makes any sense
2 likesWhat if the sunset we know IS the human version of her but she found the gateway to equestria and stayed for a bit, then she became princess celestia's pupil because she could sence that sunset wasn't like other ponys.
1 likeThen I believe sunset started to get power hungry so when she left, she needed to come back to bring magic with her to the human world
First of all, death will never be straight up confirmed in MLP. Even when it's heavily hinted at, like with Bright Mac and Pear Butter, it isn't actually stated, thus no theory about death will ever be confirmed.
58 likesThat said, my head canon is still that human Sunset is dead. While I find the idea that pony Sunset killed her to be laughable, that doesn't mean that human Sunset didn't meet her unfortunate end. After all, pride and ambition often leads one to their own end.
There is a partial answer to this that most aren't looking at. and that is its believed that Sunset was late teens when she left. if humans and ponies age the same that means human sunset would already done with high school. Which means she'd be gone by the time pony sunset entered the human world, or human sunset could have gone to a different school like human Twi did.
0 likesWell, personally, my hypothesis is that most likely Sunset from the world of people lives in another city, so we did not see her ,but the most logical explanation is that the creators simply did not need another Sunset ,so they thought that Sunset from the world of ponies is the only one of its kind . But the version of the murder of another Sunset is also not a bad explanation .
3 likesHey I have a question for ya sawtooth that you can use, if the event with Luna happened in Equestria, ya know by being banished to the moon, do you think that something even similar happened with celestia and Luna in the human work? Like did she get jealous about not being principal and was fired or something and then something happened and now she’s a vice principal and happy with it? Ide be happy if you used my idea on a vid! 😁
0 likesSo based off of the plot holes Sunset had to had a human counterpart, otherwise where would Sunset live, where did she get her clothes, her home, her money, her everything. Someone had to have taken her in, the most logical idea would be human Sunset’s family. True we never see the human mane six’s families but we do know they have them.
0 likesOn top of that sure it’s possible Sunset killed her counterpart but she never goes for physical violence until she turns into a demon. This suggests she wouldn’t go for that. So Sunset must have done something else. There are many options. Sunset drove her human counterpart off and took over. Sunset found the human Sunset’s family after said Sunset left home and severed their relationship. Maybe the human one left her family and Sunset convinced them she was the original. Or there’s the possibility that there was an accident when the original did die and Sunset arrived in time to take her place. Or Sunset simply just did identity theft and ruined former Sunset’s life
I think what sunset shimmer might have done is she may have sent the human sunset shimmer into the pony world may have kept her prisoned where tirex and the queen of changelings were. Also I think the moment sunset shimmer wore twilights crown may have erased some of her memories of what she did to the human sunset that might be the reason why she was crying so much…maybe from the guilt of her twin versions death
0 likesI'm late to the debate but I have a few ideas and I'm not sure they count as a theory, but....
0 likesWe know that Sunset was Princess Celestia's student before Twilight, and when Sunset arrived in the human world, Twilight came after. But no one really knows how long, and since the Twilight from the human world transferred to CHS long after Sunset did, it could be indicating what happened with pony Twilight and Sunset in the first place. They start as enemies, end as friends.
idk man I'm losing my trail of thought
can we talk about how come one sunset shimmer is brighter than the other isn't it bit strange
1 likeI think the pony sunset was actually the human sunset. I mean it may be a stretch but think about it now the pony counter part of sunset human sunset could've just poofed her away or teleported with magic or somehow erased her memory and sent her somewhere else no killing. Now how she got I'm not very sure but human sunset could've just been playing as a child and accidentally went through the portal never to be seen again until ya know the show but think about it human sunset was much more comfortable in the human world then twilight was when she first got there. Also the people in the human world seem to be familiar with her as if she lives there. So most likely she visits her home town and know how the portal works so well remembering it as a child.
0 likesThis was one of my personal theories, too. I always wondered what happened to the Sunset Shimmer or if there even was one. I never thought maybe there actually is a human Sunset Shimmer, I just had the idea of it.
16 likesI think maybe there is an original Sunset, and I do agree with the idea of her not pursuing anything academically related, manily just because I don't see that for her character, but I don't necessarily agree with the idea of failed musician or have an actual idea for what she would do. Still, this was a really cool thought that makes me wanna go back and watch the mlp movies all over again.
Also, a completely not on topic theory/headcanon (I say that because I do have evidence to back this up, though I might be stretching it thin) Rainbow Dash has separation anxiety, and Tank is a of support animal (not officially). There's more to this theory, but I can't remember it right now😅
i want to say something that when zakora gave twilight a potion she saw night mare moons vanish but then she saw discord turn to stone luna was there with celestia but when star light sent twilight to a place where night mare moon was not defeated night mare moon said she did not knew where the elements of hormany was but when discord was turned to stone celestia show where the tree of hormany was but how did she did not remember you can make a video with this
0 likesVery interesting and I understand everything 😁 Because I come from Germany and still learning I often don't watch englisch Videos oder Films but yours are ready nice 👌
0 likesIf Equestrian Sunset really did kill Human Sunset, then She would have eventually told everyone that she isn't "their" sunset. My other theory is that Human Sunset is in another part of the human world. It is a very low chance that you'll meet yourself from another dimension unless you intentionally want to meet yourself. Equestrian Sunset probably got adopted or something, while Human Sunset is with her parents somewhere.
0 likesSo here's a theory... The human Sunset actually went to ANOTHER universe. Okay I get that this isn't the best but hey this is a theory. In the human universe there can be magic, this is showed through the show, and in the episode with the whole multiverses and changing the timelines, they show that different timelines can change a lot. This could lead to even more universes then pony and human. In all the human world Sunset could have went to another universe.
0 likesI have a theory and possibly an answer.It could be that sunset already killed the original from Equestria (The world), But there are other ponies that too we have not seen in the pony world or that have been in far away lands like Manehattan or just travelers, But it also could be that they are in unseen cities like Philadelphia.
0 likesMy Theory:
1 likeHuman Sunset exists but the script-writers may may not have written a place for her.
And now that Mlp is over
It's kinda like with Isaacus Maximus: We have never met him before but he is out there somewhere. Even if I made him up, there is possible potential that Isaacus Maximus might actually exist. You could say that, maybe he's human Sunset's emotional support and has been at side since they were young. Truth be told, if Isaacus Maximus does indeed exist, he could potentially make a significant difference to the story or theory.
0 likesJust because our sunset wasn't the cause of human sunset stuff that doesn't mean she isn't dead, it can't be proven just like the theory that there is no human sunset but still possibility
0 likesI love that Ponytail Sunset design. I dunno why, but she looks so adorable, even more so than Sci-Twi.
5 likesAs for my theory on Human Sunset, I've two theories I fall back on to explain where she is whenever I'm writing a fanfic.
1. (which I don't use too often, especially after your Sunset Origins videos) Our Sunset IS her human counterpart who somehow ended up in Equestria as a baby and was adopted into a unicorn family (in this case, Sunny Flare's).
2. Human Sunset is part of the Everton Project like Sci-Twi wanted to be so has been off studying whatever subject she's most passionate about.
Most logic is that she either got expelled, dropped out, or switched schools, because that would equal out the fact that sunset left equestria, but I think she was more of a special student, there's one loop hole in it tho that principal celestia doesn't remember sunset, but we can cover it that eighter 1 sunset lied that she knew she had been there when she really didn't, or 2 it was so long ago that celestia didn't remember, again, the school is HUGE remembering 1 student is impossible unless they did something great, but that would mean she(the human sunset) probably dropped out and our new sunset replaced her, probably came back way more rebeliouse then the human counterpart, wich is why celestia woulnt remember her, she used to be just a bit burned out sleepy student that is most of the students, maybe like that one girl (ironically I don't remember her name) that would erase people's memories, she wasn't memorable for a reason, the stone she used, but what if sunset was just too boring and ordenary to remember? It's just a theory lmao
0 likesI always used to wonder if there's a human sunset and I thought that there is because in rainbow rocks I didn't really think there's a human twilight but when we met human twilight I thought that there is a human sunset because why wouldn't there be one but my question was were is she and why she never appeared in any episode.
0 likesI thought pf a theory of when Sunset was going through the portal to the human world, the human world sunset was also going at the same time and maybe in the big portal we see Twilight going through to get to the human world, they maybe bumped into eachother and maybe combined into 1 sunset that had the goals of the pony world sunset. It's a bit of a stretch but it could be possible!
0 likeswhat if human sunset is actually in the pony realm and is hiding away from the main 6? what if the fact that she was a magician made her study the portal from the pony world to the human world? and once finally seeing the pony sunset come out of it, she secretly walked out and ran away from the main 6 secretly without them knowing?
0 likesDo you have any idea why mistmane has wavy hair, SHE'S A UNICORN?!!
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i think theyve talked about that before actually but i might be wrong, iirc they said they think wavy hair just means a lot of magic and its like flowing out of the hair because theres excess, usually its only possible for alicorns but not always :)
39 likes@doplop huh, I thought it only happens to the alicorns that raise the sun and moon
9 likesfrom my understanding wavy manes are just the result of a high concentration of unicorn magic, but if starswirl is THE most powerful unicorn ever, how come mistmane has one and he doesn’t?
24 likesmaybe it’s a mare thing lol
15 likes@absoluteknock I think it’s more of a mare thing
11 likes@Unique Phoenix Twilight?
5 likes@absoluteknock but sombra had wavy hair
10 likesThink about it, when Trixie used the alicorn amulet, she had a lot of dark magic. So why didn't she get wavy hair like sombra?
10 likesMaybe it takes time or something
@Kyuu Desperation when twilight raised the sun before her battle with tirek her hair became wavy
11 likes@Unique Phoenix Maybe it could be a choice for some with a lot of magic? Like, "Yes I want to have my mane be sparkly and wavy, so I'll store some magic there" Or what not?
11 likesI think it happens to female powerful unicorns
7 likes@Stan Marsh he was a villain and it happened to nightmare moon too
7 likes@TheRandomMangoPlayz luna already has wavy hair
5 likesPonies have wavy mane when they have a lot of magic that they know how to control
9 likesAnd their magic doesn't get out of control .Like trixie had a lot of magic but she didn't really know much about it and couldn't control it much.
And they can also have wavy mane when they get love and admiration from all three tribes
2 likes@Inderjit Dhillon hmmm, maybe that can be true.
3 likesI think there’s a spell that the public doesn’t know about that makes pony’s hair wavy. In The Rarity’s Biggest Fan Short it was said to be a spell.
5 likesI think it is a spell. Used either when you care a lot about how your mane looks or when you have so much magic that you don't know how to get rid of it
4 likes@absoluteknock maybe he was so cool he could make the wavy hair stop
4 likesNo
0 likes@Unique Phoenix maybe it's because it's ur natural magic and not something you stole and it's a lot of magic too , as for twilight raising the sun I think that was just a spark because twilight had all the alicorn magic which made it transfer to her hair for a quick second especially considering she had two opposite magics, sun and moon
3 likes@TheRandomMangoPlayz But what about Starlight Glimmer. She is a powerful unicorn yet she doesn't have wavy mane.
3 likes@Unique Phoenix in the last ever mlp episode in the future twilight looked a lot like Celestia but with twilight colors and it was twilight and her hair was wavy
1 likeHuman Sunset Shimmer almost happened... Nick Confalone posted on Twitter his pitch for an EqG series finale that was ultimately scrapped in favour of Holidays Unwrapped...
1 likeMaybe human!Sunset ran away from home. I mean, it would make sense how our Sunset lives in a nice house (as seen in the Monday Blues music video) if human!Sunset's parents mistook her for their missing daughter. Kinda messed up, but not as bad as her killing her counterpart.
0 likesWe’ll never since Hasbro ended G4 and cancelled Equestria Girls 😔
1 likei like all of the theories but its also equally likely that the human sunset shimmer does exist somewhere out there in the wide human world but we will never see her because she is living a regular life as just one among literally millions of humans.
0 likesSawtooth: Another area where she feels superior...
34 likesMe: murder?!
Sawtooth: maybe musical talent maybe shes the next sapphire shores.
Me: ok good.
One thing Mr. Sawtooth Waves. If Twilight & her friends have human versions, why doesn't STARLIGHT GLIMMER, SUN BURST, DISCORD, PRINCIPLE SINCH/ CINCH FROM THE FRIENDSHIP GAMES, THE VILLAN FROM THE MOVIES WHO WANTED TO BE A STAR, WALL FLOWER & STARSWIRL AND THE PILLARS not have pony or human versions of themselves.
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I think they would've shown those if they hadn't cancelled the show.
0 likesI think like, if the equestria's sunset moved to other place (human place), the other also moved to another place as well. not in a magic way, but just like you said.
0 likesI always thought she was human originally and then found Pony world herself.
0 likesOne of the writers revealed that there were supposed to be an hour long special at the end of season 2..they will finally found out why the magic keeps following them and what happened to the human sunset shimmer.. Sadly the movie was cancelled and we get a shit ending of the series-
0 likesHuman Sunset lives in Japan. She owns the company that has all the vending machines everywhere. Basically, she runs the country.
0 likesI really want to human Sunset shimmer she's one of my favorite Equestria girls. It's ashamed that never happened and I want Equestria girls to come back with a third season with more episodes and specials I still hope this will happen. And I subscribed today. I wonder if human Sunset came will she be evil just like Sunset used to be ?
0 likesI considered the possibility that maybe human Sunset Shimmer crossed into the pony universe before the pony Sunset Shimmer crossed into the human universe. Maybe the mirror was in transit on a train and human Sunset Shimmer entered the portal at Canterlot High School as a child. Human Sunset Shimmer has been living as a pony in a small town somewhere ever since. They though she was crazy talking about her old life, so they taught it out of her as a childhood fantasy.
0 likesThe most likely explanation, however, is that the human counterparts to pony Sunset Shimmer's parents never had the child. Sunset might meet the counterparts of her parents, but not her own counterpart. [Precedent in other franchises: Benjamin Sisko mirror and Jennifer Sisko mirror never had a child, so there is no Jake Sisko mirror.]
We've never met Sunset Shimmer's parents at all.
I like to think she was made for both worlds. Basically the first theory.
0 likesI am still AMAZED by Sawtooth's observation skill. Anyway, we don't know anything Sunset's life before becoming Celestia's student. If we did then we could have theoriezed where human Sunset lives. But I think that human Sunset is in another country. She is probably a popular and nice student. And the best musician in the school, also an apprentice of a professional musician. But just like Sawtooth said, she destroyed her chances and ran away to become better.
3 likesThat's my theory. But I'd love to hear any of your suggestions that could improve my theory 😊😊😊
Here is a theory! Sunset is from the human world originally, and there is a Pony version of her in equestria, not in the human world, I mean it could be a possibility, and Solestia owned the Mirror, plus it would explain her sudden appearance.
0 likesI appreciate your theories, but could you please start talking about G5. It is coming this September.
0 likesInstead of asking where is the other Sunset Shimmer, maybe it would be a when. Like her counterpart could exist at a different point in time.
0 likesSunset has a real human life but we have never seen sunset in the equestria. So maybe when she was evil she killed her pony self and took it as her place and so on she spreads evil all around the human world
2 likesDr Wolf did a video a while back talking about a planned EQG finale that would address human Sunset and possibly end with pony Sunset saying goodbye to her friends and returning to Equestria permanently to maintain the balance between the two worlds.
54 likesKind of a sad story, but at least it would make for a better ending than the one we got.
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Period! The Holidays Unwrapped was so disappointing.
12 likesI’ve actually heard the creators said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
4 likesheek heak haok haek howk
0 likesI actually think that "hasbro" was way too lazy to come up with a better ending than that sad ending.
2 likesSunset shimmer it’s much older than the Maine six. Like late 20s early 30s
0 likesSo you wouldn’t find her reflection in a school if anything the appropriate adaptation from her would be her dropping out of school at an early age hint her leaving the school to pursue a different life.
I always thought that
0 likesIf pony Sunset find her place, happiness and friends in the human world,
Human Sunset will find the same in the pony world.
People are saying that the original finale had Sunset meeting Human Sunset and Human Sunset said she ruined her life.
0 likesIf this is the case I can see this happening. Sunset did ruin her life to be honest. Sunset turned into a demon that almost killed a few people also the yacht cruise where the whether went crazy due to magic (not her fault). Every incident that involves Sunset goes back to Human Sunset. So becoming a demon that nearly destroyed a school and almost killed people might stop her from getting friends and jobs.
Hopefully Human Sunset is doing well but her social life is probably horrible.
I have three theories.
0 likesFirst one is that Sunset is from the human world but she was an orphan and she slipped into a portal leading to Equestria. Now you may be asking where is pony sunset than and that's were it gets interesting. I think that she was killed in a forest by Timberwolves and the sunset we know was spat out in that forest and later found by the ponies she calls family. I'd like to point out that in the anon a miss story she says she was never close to her family and I think her starting out as an orphan then being transported to another world with talking horses would definitely causes some sort of gap. Which led to her estrangement with her family and the ambition for magic and power.
The second one is a little more simple but equally possible. And that's that human Sunset is a runaway like Sunset. She could have left her home and essentially is travelling around the world and is staying under the radar because that's what runaways do. They stay hidden. The proof is comparing human Twilight to pony twilight. While the difference of what they are after is magic and science the fact remains that they study it feverishly. I think that maybe she ran away to prove something to those she ran away from much like Sunset did. What that something is remains up for debate. It could be art/painting, or it could be music based. Again no one really knows.
The third is much like the first but instead it follows what we know so far with the sunset we do know. So she would be a pony. There we can now focus on human Sunset. In this theory not just human Sunset but her entire family is killed/lost in some sort of accident. While no real proof exists, I would like to point out that if either a human sunset does exist and shes as estranged from her family as pony Sunset than why haven't we seen anything about a missing sunset or have a family member like human sunsets parents or sibling run up to her or something similar in all this time. It's not like Sunset is hiding herself. Shes in a popular band, was in a movie, and was at a rock concert and sung with the idols on stage. That's hard to miss. Which is why it's possible for human sunset and her family to be dead. As well as if she did take over human Sunsets role as found daughter why would she be living in her cheap somewhat rundown apartment alone?
Anyways those are my thoughts on human sunset. Sorry for the long read.
We also don't know whereabouts of human-world Starlight Glimmer. Both of these characters share the similar history of becoming bitter for not getting something or losing something and looking extreme measures to get what they once had. Starlight most likely would pursue the world of politics or education, trying to make everyone "equal". Sunset could have been similar to how Human-Twilight was. Lack of friends and interest in anything else, she pursued science. But her ambitions making her bitter, for not getting anywhere. She is the kind of character that would become a mad, secluded scientist.
5 likesAlso, both of these characters ended up going far from their homes. One finding an empty area on the far reaches of Equestria and other on whole different world. So both Human Starlight and Sunset would likely be on way different countries.
You all know Sunset wanted to be the "only" Sunset Shimmer and wamted to rule the school and she was a bully. Maybe She did something bad to the human Sunset because Sunshim started to be good. Just turned mean, and in the first EQG movie she said: "Bring me something i could use just like you did to that last girl, who thought she could challenge me.".
0 likesI think that human sunset is already an adult. Think about it. Our Sunset was Celestia's student before Twilight therefore she must be older because Twilight has been Celestia's apprentice since she got her cutie mark. Twilight and Sunset would have met before Equestria girls if they were both Celestia's personal students at the same time. Also there's probably a time difference between the two worlds because the mane 6 are young adults during the series. Rarity having her own business and Rainbow Dash being part of a military team definitely makes them all over 18. But they are still in Highschool in the human world. The human world isn't on the same time as Equestria.
0 likesI feel it was sunsets destiny to connect the two worlds
1 like1. The original human version of Sunset Shimmer is probably studied very well until she has cross reached the university level. without high school
1 like2. Sunset Shimmer Pony was still a bad person before, so she might have come up with a plan to combine the human Sunset Shimmer with herself and unite her memories.
3. original human Sunset Shimmer was Missing when the Sunset Shimmer Pony appeared. The Sunset Shimmer human parents were delighted and thought this was real Sunset Shimmer
Can we just appreciate the fact that there are so many theories yet Sawtooth analyzed most of them in approximately 5 mins.
9 likesMy friend’s mom works on friendship is magic and said ‘ sunset was a bad person at first but her of human is lost in the woods’.
0 likesMy theory of her cutie mark is there are different colors of her mark, so just like you said they are putten as human world and equestria or i dont know how to spell it.
0 likesI'm actually curious what cutie mark talent it is 😳
you're missing one simple question it's not where is human Sunset it is when is human Sunset you are forgetting that there's at least a 10 year gap between when's sunset disappeared and when Twilight became Celestia student and now is sunset and Twilight are around the same age there is obviously some kind of time dilation
0 likesthe "equestrian" sunset is actually sunset from the human world and the real equestrian sunset has just not been seen or spoke about yet?
0 likesjust theory
I like to think that human sunset goes (or has a chance to go) to equestria to restore the balance. If she's ever found, that is.
3 likesokay these is stated briefly in the shows first movie she went to a land where she doesn't exist where magic existence is out of it how ever since twilight was original part of both worlds there are two versions of her but not sunset.
0 likesOh my goodness sawtooth I have been away from your lovely videos for way too long I am finally watching them and I love all of them
0 likesI guess Sunset Shimmer didn't have a human counterpart just like Starlight Glimmer. Or their counterparts exists but doesn't live in North America like the others do. Maybe Sunset's human counterpart is European and Starlight's Australian. In that case no lives are ruined or doubled. They both exists but they just doesn't know about each other existence. Unless some student of CHS filmed the Spring Formal incident and posted this video. And when it went viral then....
0 likesi feel like im going insane because i have this distinct memory of this extra thing where the actual human sunset shimmer showed up, sorta like how sci-twi did at the end of rainbow rocks, it was just a quick and short thing, but i never saw it again and now that im actually looking for it, it just doesnt exist??
0 likesI think it's fun imagining the emphasis of ambition in her character going towards either her graduating high school early and going to college for politics OR as a darker turn she drops out and becomes a crime boss
3 likesTheory, imagine if the human one is ironically in the pony one all that time.
0 likesThat would be hilarious if Equestrian sunset pulled a whole John Carpenter's The Thing
0 likesI have a theory that Starlight & Sunset are connected somehow, seeing as neither of them have a otherworld counterpart.
0 likesThere may be a simpler explanation. Like maybe human Sunset went to live in a different city for example.
0 likesHuman sunset then the theory that Celestia if she goes into the human realm there's a chance that she won't be able to actually get out of it therefore the thing with the human sunset is she probably did exist but since sunset decided to stay into the human realm instead of the equestrian realm it's probably a side effect of her staying there that her human counterpart is not existent or maybe they just merged together considering the fact that she can stay in both rounds with no problems but when Twilight was in that room she really couldn't do much since she's reliant on her pony form and how she was in her human form yes she was still had some a little bit of magical abilities but considering the fact that her cutie mark is magic you can't really like amp up the power of magic yeah you can just put the crown on yeah that'll give you your magical powers back but it wouldn't really explain how sunset shimmers able to stay there for so long without seeing her counterpart unless her counterpart is her unless she is not just one sunset but two she probably merged with the other sunset just so the state so the universe could stay stable since when the two twilight saw each other they couldn't both be in the same universe so they had to so the Twilight from the from Equestria had to go back and since you can't send a pony into the human realm because they would see their counterpart it probably became unstable for sunset originally therefore I think that the original sunset and the human counterpart of sunset must have merged together so they can stay there at the same time or she's just doesn't exist because or she just died
0 likesFailed music career while living in a large active city... ?
0 likesYeah, Sunset probably overdosed on street drugs in a fit of despair and self-pity.
One question..
0 likesIs the loop from its about time still going? Could it be that the loop keeps and keeps on creating the same timeline?
Was the question to "where does Sunset live in the human world?" eve been answered?
0 likesI'd love it if Isaac Newton the wizard came back from the dead. Physicists would go nuts.
68 likes"she does have a nice voice"
0 likessunset : " was that a compliment wow ty ty ikr"
What if they fell into each other's worlds, and this Sunset Shimmer is hiding in Equestria in some corner scared out of her damn mind?
1 likeI should have said this a long time ago.
0 likesBut it was confirmed not everyone in equestria or the human world has a counterpart.
So Sunset most likely doesn’t have a counterpart there.
They should’ve brought her back to Equestria for the season 9 finale......
0 likesOr maybe that sunset was the one from the HUMAN world and there's actually no pony world sunset. Think about it, sunset knew about the human world already when she took twilights crown. She knew what the human world was, where the portal was, everything! The mane 6 from the human world even said that sunset was a bully there, so obviously sunset has known about the world for awhile. And in the movie about i think it was the memory stone, when sunset came through the portal to the pony world she was standing on her hind legs trying to hug twilight like a human. Also even if sunset WAS originally from the pony world, you would think we would've seen her around more/met her earlier than In that first movie when she stole the crown right?
1 likeAnd I can't wait to see those two together(if the human one even existed ofc)
0 likeswait this channel still exists? oh hell yeah!
0 likesYou said why would she need a human counter part if she's the hinge between the two worlds, and to that I say every hinge has two parts.
0 likesThere is a fan fic on wattpad called scars of a last and it sounds like it fits well with this it takes place after the first
0 likesIt's a shame eqg was cancelled thx to has hasbro since we were very close to see a proper ending with the human sunset shimmer in it but of course hasbro had to cancel it and sadly the only way we'll get a proper ending if it's made by a fan. At least the show had a good fun when it lasted.
0 likesHere's what I think when sunset went to the human world she found the house of her human counterpart and convinced her to let her stay and to go to her school for her the human sunset agrees seeing a opportunity to stay at her house and be lazy
0 likesWe don’t even know most of the Humans from the Human realm such as the light green Girl wearing Stars with purple Shoes 👠 I mean she makes several appearances but will still don’t know her name. I mean do all the Humans have Pony counterparts? This actually rises more Questions than Answers.
0 likesWho else thinks it's weird that they keep their Pony colours and it doesn't turn into a normal skin color?
1 likeI thought I was the only one that the human sunset will be wearing glasses 🕶️
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0 likesTechnically, magic came when the portal opened
I’m not sure if there’s the real human Sunset Shimmer or not.
2 likesIt feels like you just posted yesterday
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I love the weekly upload schedule
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it's only temporary, sorry! just trying things out
39 likesI do too
7 likesI think if there’s another sunset she participates in politics because of her ambitions & strive for power
0 likesMy theory is that when a pony enters human world and stays for too long, either the pony or human gets deleted from the world
1 likeThis got me thinking of what if Sunset was originally from Earth but went to ponyville as a child and was so ecstatic by the magic she stayed there and forgot about her human life
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Thats actually a great theory……
0 likesIf there is a human Sunset, you have to ask about human Starlight Glimmer.
0 likesThis makes so much scene
32 likesEquestria is at realm of magic while Earth (or at less this Earth like realm) is the realm of science and both are two half’s of the same hold, both are connected to each other and share the same yet different inhabitants
God bless you guys, rejoice there’s always something to be happy because, for me it’s Jesus!❤️
0 likesCreators of the e.g.: * Forgetting to add Sunset *
0 likesSawtooth: It could be a theory..
RW:there was a movie in the making for hasbro to have another Equestria Girls movie that would've showed The Human Sunset,but sadly the idea was scrapped.😔(couldve been cool though)
0 likesShe probably ran away from home and found a new life for herself.
0 likesMaybe application for the whole episode could be jamming the rest of the weekend Minecraft
0 likesCan you please make "Finally solving Derpy" :D
1 likeWell the human world doesn't have all of Equarias creatures like Starlight glimmer, Sunburst, Moondancer, the wonderbolts Angelwins,Vaper trail and Sky stinger, Lightning dust and Flurry heart.💖
1 like“That was like if issac newton came back from the dead except it wasn’t him because he was from an alternate world as a wizard.” “Oh that’s about right actually” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
0 likesWell, Sunset seems to be in the human world longer than Equestria. What if human Sunset went to Equestria?
7 likesThis could also explain why she has an unnamed element of harmony...
Can you figure out something about human flurry? We have seen cadence and shinning armour but what about flurry heart?
0 likesactually... the crew already ask hasbro if they can make S3 and the ending but hasbro declines idk why tho
1 likeI have a little bit of a theory of my own. In equestria, sunset shimmer is/was a student of celestia. What if its the same thing in the human world? What if human sunset shimmer is/was a student of canterlot high? And she got kicked out of the school for doing something wrong just like equestria sunset did? Mabye human sunset discovered the portal and went through to equestria. I propose that human sunset is in equestria AS WE SPEAK plotting her revenge on the human world. There are many flaws to this theory and it's probably not true but it is something fun to think about and kinda builds a suspense and something to look forward to. Mabye the friends will have to battle human sunset in equestria?
0 likesY’all know that the human world isn’t just those 2 schools, it’s like real life. Meaning that the human sunset could be somewhere else in the world
0 likesI'm glad that I'm not the only one who still thinks of this. Personally I think Human Sunset does exists, just in a different part in of the Human world. This would make sense, because no one has heard or saw Human Sunset in their known location or the two schools. But it could be possible that there was another school we haven't heard about.
5 likesI think maybe the human sunset shimmer lives in a diffrent part of the human world,so that's the reason why we don't see her and only see the equestrian sunset.
0 likesTo be fair. I just think that "other" human sunset never existed. Maybe just like the dazzlings, she doesn't have a human counterpart. Yes, other theories like she's a runaway, she killed her human counterpart* or her human counterpart is hiding ,make alot of sense but maybe she just didnt have one? or i'm just being dumb and forgetting things-
0 likes*this theory is suprisingly believeable, but it scares me since sunset is my 3rd favourite character so i don't like to believe it xD
I have a huge theory. Its not necessarily related to this alot but it is with sunset. Me and my friends used to wonder why sunset wasn't a alicorn but, in the friendship games when she was trying to stop twilight she was a alicorn? I think that Princess Celeste was originally going to make her a alicorn. But since she abandoned her studies she never got that option but it was still within her for the good.
0 likesI wonder if she is secretly in the background of one of the equestria girls shorts
0 likesI heared that the ending of the Equestria Girls seires was supposed to end with a movie where we meet the original Sunset, and pony Sunset must face that she stole the life of someone!
38 likesI have a question
0 likesif celestia and luna are sisters then it's love that keeps them together...THEN WHY DID THEY'RE CROWNS MAKE FRIENDSHIP? Shouldn't it be love?
The cutie mark theory sounds the most logical to me becuse look at her cutie mark change the brightest to white and the darkest to black the colur is the black and white make the same form as hers and you got ying and yang when u think about that or good versus evil they both need each other and take that with her mark it fits well human and eqeustria one canot exist with the other in the friendship games i bet eqeustria got destroyed a bit too i bet so makes sense to me.
0 likesAnother point in this question where is Human Starlight Glimmer? We saw her come to the Human world in EQ Girls: Magic Mirror where Sunset states she never seen her there
0 likesWasn't there a short where she actually meets her human version
0 likesHey sawtooth,
0 likesI asked this question on Google and it said that since sunset shimmer took human sunset's place in the human world human sunset is trying to make pony sunset's life as miserable as possible.....
Are we not going to bring up how we have seen Sunsets room and house? When Twight light came she left in the library so where did she get this house?
0 likesIt has already been confirmed that the sounset slimmer of the human world is still alive and hiba will appear on season 3 of equestria girls before being canceled
0 likesI think that sunset's life is a musician and being smart at any project and i think she dropted out of school just like the equestria sunset....
1 likeWhy does Human Twilight have wings when in the pony world she's a unicorn. She might as well lose the wings since she's technically not an alicorn.
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espero que YouTube lo traduzca ya que no se mucho ingles pero puede que la magia sea como un espejo del otro mundo
0 likesin the pony world Sunset is also a pony, then how can she have wings, in the episode "Friendship Games"
4 likes@ABCD Ahora tengo muchas preguntas
0 likesI've been thinking this too! Like shes the only one without another form of herself.
1 likeyes just like twilight met her human form maybe she also is a crystal prep student and intends to look all that is more out there maybe she is also inocent oo or maybe the pony sun set is actualy a human who goes to equestrian world
0 likesWell maybe the human sunset was once in crystal prep even before Twilight and when she didn't get what she want probably into being a student president or something. And she decided to abandon her study and went to canterlot high and fell into the portal by accident or found another portal and when she was there she transferred to another school and try to conquer that one. I say this because in the first Equestria girls movie, the storyline is pretty similar from MLP S1 on how Twilight met the other mane 5
0 likesIdk why but this is my thought;
1 likeYa'll know how starlight and twilight are close, well so is sunset and twilight and both sunset and starlight seem kinda the same from my pov. So what I think is that sunset might be starlight human version. Ik it sounds stupid because like we already saw a human version of starlight and pony version of sunset but what if sunset was always a human? And it may be that sunset is a AU of starlight that just happens to join the original star light's world and they just happen to not notice that. Idk but this is just my thought
I’ve always wondered the answer to this question and I’m glad the video answers it.
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
0 likes@Terminator 156 I know but I like to watch the theory of there possibly being one at some point and she disappeared
0 likesSo now I’m just wondering, in the first movie sunset’s aura was teal and in spring breakdown her aura was red
0 likesWhat if the Equestria Sunset was there long enough for them to like- merge together as one-
0 likesGoing back to Sunset killing her human self. Yes she didn't use physical harm on anyone but she caused a lot of mental harm. This is just little dark, but if the possibility of Sunset killing her human self is there... could she have bullied her into suicide?
0 likesWow...I miss Sunset.
0 likesi like the theory that there is no second Sunset, i like to see her as Connection between the worlds. It matches so perfectly to her cutie mark
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Me too
0 likesI questioned this for YEARS AND NOW I HAVE A ANSWER
0 likessunset is the only pony that doesn't have a human version ,she connects both of the worlds together , so there's only one sunset shimmer between two worlds there can't be two.( think that's what EQG means before
0 likesI don't really know but i would think maby her counter part would be a failed musician like you said. But if she is she is not a failed one she may have just lived in a country with not much communication but you may be right on her not having a counter part.
0 likesThere is no way that the human sunset was killed!
0 likesWhere did you come up with that idea anyway?
1. pony sunset killed her human counterpart? if she did, she'll have a HUGE regret and probably told the humane 5 that she already killed the human her during or before "rainbow rocks" when she beginning to redeem herself.
0 likes2. i assume the human sunset would have been in high school like the humane 7 as of the last one aired.
what i think is that the human sunset shimmer is in a different location near or far from the cusd (canterlot unified school district) and go to a different school district and probably your average smart teen girl.
the human starswirl might have been real and live long to make a impact on science.
the thing about "friendship is magic" and "equestria girls" connecting to each other - is that hasbro and the creators never reference the mirror portal on both series, but in books only.
assume that pony starswirl created the mirror, he might have used to eavesdrop on the sirens (from rainbow rocks) in the human world after their banished by the pillars of equestria - some how transport any creatures in modern equestria to modern earth, right where canterlot high is at.
in the "fall of sunset shimmer", the mirror was already there and was never explain it's origins much either.
so in my ending, human sunset show up at the end of junior year at CHS as a average transfer student, pony sunset feel homesick for equestria, give her magic ability to her human counterpart and says "goodbye" (not a "goodbye" goodbye but a goodbye until next time (like pony twilight said once) to her human counterpart and the humane 6 and also give the magic book she has to them, so they can "chat" with her and their own pony counterparts (which i'm thinking of a actual 30 minute tv series with a 1 hr. special of themselves acting like their counterparts (humane 7 in equestria acting like their pony counterpart while the mane 7 (yes, i consider pony sunset as a 7th member, even she doesn't have a element - act like the human counterparts) in each other's universe, act kind of badly until night time and switch back, but have fun doing so.
Be great see ponie meeting humans in same demention.
0 likesMy headcanon is a bit boring but logical nonetheless. She was a student to Princess Celestia prior to Twilight so maybe she's a bit older in the human world (and maybe the pony world too). Since Sunset Shimmer was a student of Princess Celestia, I like to think she is naturally smart and the human version of her got into a very prestigious college somewhere far away. This headcanon will only work if she studied in Crystal Prep and never met Principal Celestia and human Twilight, of course.
0 likesWhat is the name of the music at the very beginning? It sounds super familiar.
0 likesWhat about the human version of Queen Chrysalis🤔🤨
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oooooOOOOOoooo good question
7 likeswhat if her counterpart was literally just a bug
8 likesA six foot beetle has been sighted at the park sunset! What do we do?
3 likesDon’t question the six foot thing I thought it was funny.
@doplop Maybe she accidentally got squashed by somebody already? XDDD
0 likesIs I weird that I think Juniper Montage is her counterpart?
0 likesPersonally, I've always thought Sunset was pretty bad even pre-reformation. Given what we've seen in Equestria, ambition and lust for power can lead to some pretty nasty things. Especially because demon sunset, if I remember correctly, said she had planned on conquering Equestria. Compared to that, killing a single person is not really a big deal, as I don't think she'd act like Tirek did and just yeet the princesses into Tartarus. Besides, it seems likely to me that she's been involved in shady human world dealings as her job is as the waitress of a sushi place, yet she owns a pretty nice looking house and appears to have plenty of money.
1 likeAlso, it just occurred to me that human world Gummy is a plush toy...yet he's a living animal in Equestria who speculates on the nature of life and the reason of existence...????
literally been wondering this all of my life
0 likesmaybe she could've just merge with her human counterpart.
0 likesI always thought that the human Sunset went to the pony world, just like Sunset from the pony world went to the human world.
0 likesHuman Sunset Shimmer probably went somewhere in Equestria and hid there, like how Pony Sunset Shimmer hid in the human world idk
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That would actually be kinda interesting. I might use that idea for the Evenverse (My NG).
3 likesThe creators actually said that not everyone from the world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
4 likes@Terminator 156 Then why did dr. wolf make a video with proof that said there were going to give Sunset Shimmer a human counterpart but scraped it. If you can find proof for you claims post it. Otherwise what your saying isn’t true.
5 likesWe rarely see parents and their children together. You know why?
0 likesIT'S BECUSE PARENTS DON'T WATCH OR CAN'T IMAGINE THEMSELVES IN THE SHOW!! BRUHHHH!!!!
My theory is that the human sunset goes missing before our sunset goes in, so the pony took the place of the human one and gone more mad only for the comparations betwen them
0 likesThere’s another problem to we never see glamorous glimmer as well if that’s how you spell it we see her pony self but not her counter part I mean we did see how she would look like but that still was just her pony self turned into her counter part same goes for sun set shimmer maybe they are STILL THERE but aren’t in the same place as the other counter parts are
1 likeWell Sunset is probably older than main Twilight by at least a year in Equestria. I had just assumed human Sunset was older than the Equestria Girls and in college.
0 likesI think we already have met human sunset! My guess is that the human sunset is on the videos of eg (postcrush episodes, etc…)
0 likesYou forgot to mention that scene where Pinkie told Sunset she saw someone like her in a different town.
0 likesI think the first idea about her basically being the life of the human world and without her human world is… dead world or whatever
0 likes😍 love it
1 likeThere was actually confirmed to be a scrapped special focused on Sunset Shimmer and what happened to the human Sunset, and what happened was actually very sad, but of course, it was a scrapped idea so it isn't entirely canon, if you want to find it it was a post by one of the producers named Nick Confalone
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Sorry to be rude, but can you provide some proof?
0 likes@Quacker Dr Wolf made a video about the post called "There was supposed to be a human Sunset Shimmer counterpart?", and searching "Nick Confalone human sunset shimmer" will show a result about the post, idk how to send links so this is all I can say
4 likesAll of these posts talking about sunset shimmer being in the human world but the idea was scrapped! it shows who was doing their homework.👍
1 likeI’ve actually heard something about the creators said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
0 likes@Terminator 156 Yeah, which is why I said that was a scrapped idea and it wasn't entirely canon
2 likes@Terminator 156 woah, deep
0 likesI honestly think, since Sunset is from the pony world but lives in the human world, human Sunset is now living in the pony world
0 likesMaybe she somehow ended up in equestria. Hahaha there’s soooooo many possibilities
0 likesMy question is how is human Luna and Celestia still alive, if the human and pony counterparts are the same age
1 likeWell as far as i know the EQG series has not offically been ended so maybe one day we might find out.
0 likesIf Sunset was good at magic in Equestria, I don't think Human Sunset would be good at music. Maybe she would be a mad scientist because pony Sunset was a rogue magic student.
4 likesPony world Sunset was a student of Celestia at the magic school & then jumped into a magic mirror & went to the human world where she found herself just outside a human high school. However I should be noted that Twilight never met Sunset at the school, it may have been because she always had her nose in a book however what is Sunset was several years older? Maybe humen Sunset has graduated high school & gone on to take a job or is in college? That would suggest a few things
0 likesEither pony Sunset did not enroll in high school right away or the mane 5 (of both worlds) are a little older then the Twilights (that would be why human Twilight took so long to take the stage)
Just my thoughts & probably full of holes
maybe sunsets original counterpart found out about Equestria so she travled there and is secretly plotting revenger for bing mistreated in the human world
0 likesI like to think that the human sunset is just dead... makes sure questions don't bother me.
0 likesDoes Exiled Kingdom allow its sounds track as freeware? Loved the video and the Exiled Kingdom sounds track.
0 likesFINALLY SOMEONE WHO DID THIS I WAS WAITHING FOR THIS FOR 5 YEARS
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
1 likeTheorie: Maby the human sunset one day discoverd the magical World. Orverwelmed by the magic she wanted to Also have the magic in the human World. That's when she discoverd pony Sunset, even tho human sunset didnt know anything about her Powers she challanged pony sunset to a duel. Pony sunset Was confused seeing herself and she lost the duel. That night human sunset stole twilights crown. And everything begann like that.
0 likesSucks the series was canceled 'cause we woulda gotten the answer to this question. No, seriously, look it up. They were gonna end "Equestria Girls" Season 2 with a special with the main plot being finding out what happened to Human Sunset.
0 likesShe’s one of my waifus
0 likesWhat if the human sunset shimmer is the sunset shimmer we see.? Maybe a while ago human sunset shimmer went into equestria to steal some magic to take back home. But, she gets caught going back to the human world, and you know the rest. But I guess then that brings up the question: where’s pony sunset shimmer? I don’t really know. I guess she could be somewhere in equestria where she can have as much power and magic as she wants. Maybe like a starlight glimmer situation with a village? Then she could keep and control the magic there.
1 likeMaybe Human Sunset died of something ? Idk \
0 likesOr maybe she was in hiding after seeing Sunset's mistake in the EQG 1st part.
She might not wanna be called a doppelganger
Well, let's think logic...
0 likesSunset traveled between the 2 worlds... but if there is a 3rd world were the human Sunset lives... this theory may change the hole mentality about my little pony...
Can you do a video on the unseen lands in MLP?
0 likesBut imagine the real human sunset was learning to go to equestria and she did just like her other self.
0 likesI have a question!!! How come when the girls transform Fluttershy and Rainbowdash get their wings but Rarity and Twilight don't get their horns?!?!? I have theories but it still doesn't make sense🤔
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They do in the books, if that's any consolation.
0 likes@Jennifer Smith ok then it prob doesnt really mean anything I guess they just chose not to include it
1 likeso sunset is the avatar of the mlp universe? i like that theory ahaha
0 likesWhat about a human discord?
0 likesCould he be around somewhere
If so what would he look like? 🤔
Blopsie. Let’s see. Maybe if we dig into the human world Twilight, who might know the unknown Sunset, we could find her. Please have a video like this, Sawtooth.
0 likesI have a theory but it was proven wrong in the friendship games ending
0 likesDo you think it's like the time travelling rule where seeing your past could cause disappearing not death but maybe teleporting to a void I mean tawog uncle grandpa and regular show have a void
Maybe she's hiding in Tokyo ,where she's living with a person with the same name as hers and the she's the lead vocalist of a band while being in a relationship with the a guitarist that plays for another band.
11 likesHint Hint: Anime Series, Rebecca Shoichet and Kelly Sheridan
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
1 likeyk what i thought at first,that human sunset came to equestria.but then i thought that wouldnt we see her?so i threw that thought away.
0 likesnow i think this..
we only met human twiliight because her school and the school of main six had a connection.
otherwise we would have never seen her,maybe thats the case?that where human sunset lives,theres no connection between the school of main six,thus we havnt seen her.
so basically,we havent seen her because she dosent live near,or has any connection with the main six./thier.
I soo wish there was a human sunset. The question that I didn't get an answer is how did sunset knows this much about the human world 🤔🤔supious 😕
1 likein that question " what would her life look like?" i might have a guess i think it is like Sci-Itiw's life
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i meant Sci-Twi
0 likesI think is that in one of the shows when she goes back goes back to ponyville grill quick she gets the book but she's like human human still cause she doesn't know how to walk as pony homie so I think that's the solution she probably gave the Crown to the real human version of themselves but the other version just goes back
0 likesI think there's one more probability. I think that human sunset know about alternative world too. And both of Sunsets go through the portal at the same time. And they're be one Sunset only.
0 likesPretty sure I saw something on Google about a Equestria Girls Sunset Horizon two-parter and supposed to focus on human world sunset
0 likesIt could also be possible that the human sunset shimmer is a ambitious gamer since the pony sunset shimmer loves playing video games so there could be a connection there.
0 likesIf sunset killed the real one wouldn’t they have thought oh no sunset was into studying wasn’t she cause of the glasses and book and how come she doesn’t need glasses also when u said she killed her was she nice kind or was she rude and selfish wouldn’t they notice the difference between them? Ok bye now thank u for listening
1 likeLet me introduce fan fiction. Also I think maybe the human world sunset was principal celestias daughter but she died when sunset came to the human world, as for how she died. Leave it up to imagination.
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Maybe she was murdered by someone.
1 likeThe creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
0 likes@Terminator 156 still fun to make theory’s
0 likesI knew that the at least one theory was that evil Sunset murked her reflection lmao
0 likesvideo idea:do you think king sombra could be reformed??
0 likesShe actually is a princess in her other life & look for her lost little sister Sunrise Glitter The Sunrise Princess.
0 likesShe must be looking like half twilight and half sunset
0 likesthe theory that our sunset killed human sunset is so messed up and i love it
3 likesAlso, the way the description was worded.
0 likes"Where is she hiding...?
My PATREON!"
If she was celestia's pupil when Twilight was still a kid wouldn't that make her way older than Twilight.
0 likesIf so why is she the same age in the human world?????
Im probably going to sound stupid for this but my question is, Starswirl banished the sirens to the human world, so naturally there would be another sunset, she introduced magic, yes, but shouldnt she still have a counterpart, considering how long the world existed? Please correct me if Im wrong btw
0 likesI have a theory that maybe there can only one Sunset exist in the same world. Maybe after a long time when Sunset was in the human world, the one that truly belonged in human world disappeared or something? Maybe universe thought that they can be only one of them in the same world and deleted the first one from existence? We know that Pony Twilight and Human Twilight met, but there weren't 2 Twilights in one world for a long time
0 likesEveryone has waited so long for this, great video!
4 likesWow I like the human style of sunset
0 likesThen does Starlight Glimmer have a human counterpart?
0 likesWhat if Sunset Shimmer went through the portal to Equestria? In the movie it never explained how Sunset Shimmer knew about the portal to another world. Maybe human Sunset Shimmer found out about it before human Twilight did & she went to Equestria. Plus the mane 6 are literally the same ppl from Equestria & the human world with the same personality & mindset so if Sunset Shimmer went to the human world then why wouldn't human Sunset go to Equestria. I can't come up with a better theory but what if the answer is just so simple
0 likesTO BE HONEST I ALWAYS WONDER IS THERE IS A HUMAN VERSION OF SUNSET SHIMMER AND I THINK THERE IS THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE
0 likes2:40 - 2:56 made me laugh so much my family thinks im crazy btw love the video^^
4 likesSo shes a non-elemental avatar, the one that bridge the two world -the four elements
0 likesWell like maybe Human Sunset was like well there but not entirely so here’s my guess what if the sunset was in a different place but when sunset leaves there’s only one sunset left so yeah but Sawtooth just might be right about human Sunset
0 likesI don’t think the theory about sunset killing the human version of her would be true because this is a show mainly made for kids
0 likes(Not saying it’s not for everyone I’m just saying that kids watch the show too probably more than older people do)
K but like how could you even consider the possibility of Sunset killing her human counterpart? This is a kids show. They literally couldn’t make that canon.
0 likes"Is there a human Sunset Shimmer?"
5 likesOH MY GOD someone finally said it! Thank you! I was thinking I was the only one!
If she did have a counter part wasnt a part of her pony info that she was celestias student BEFORE Twighlight so wouldn't human sunset have possibly gone to crystal prep (like twighlight?) and then just graduated and possibly moved out of town or just lives somewhere. Unless human sunset took pony sunset IN and thats where she has been living. This would also explain all the timeliine differences between the world?
0 likesBut thats just another theory XD
The only logical explanation is that her human counterpart is somewhere out there in the human world or maybe Hoboken
0 likesBiggest plot hole for me is she’s supposedly older then twilight as celestia says sunset was her original student, then he banished her to the human world and twilight came a few years later. Sunset was already older, plus twilight was a kid when she started learning under celestia. Buttttttt somehow she’s only in high school..? Wouldn’t she be well into college or even out of college by the time twilight shows up in the human world??! That’s the biggest thing to me that doesn’t make sense is the aging thing!
0 likesShe could have moved to a different country or place 🤷♀️
0 likesAnd since your doing a video on this: where is starlight glimers counter part, she should have a human form, heck she's even more powerful then twilight past the whole " frenship" .In other words
59 likesShe has more magic that doesn't come from friendship. And why is sunset, twilight and starlight have similar names, cute marks, and personalities? Do they have some sherd destiny or something. and have you watched the new mlp trailer, and what do you think?
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Well she would be at her village. It’s simple, Starlight never went to Ponyville willingly; the mane 6 first came to her. so logically she would still be in her village, just in the human world
4 likesoohhh he liked the coment maybe we will have a video on this subjets?
1 likeHuman Starlight is a dropout leading a cult. Maybe not a dropout.
4 likes@MoonbowCraze maybe not the leader either.
4 likesRemember, when our Starlight went through the mirror, she came out a teenager.
Since Sci-Twi is a teenager and Princess Twilight came out a teenager the same age as Sci-Twi, it stands to reason Starlight’s human counterpart is a teen too, so it's more likely she would be another member of a cult, not it's leader.
Though, since she'd still be a teen, and considering the clothes our Starlight ended up having when she came through the mirror, EQG Starlight is more than likely still living with her dad in Sire's Hollow going through the phase our Starlight was revealed to have been going through before she left Sire's Hollow because her dad left her bedroom exactly as it was
In The Rainbow Rocks we meet Aria Blaze, one of The Dazzlings/The Sirens. Aria Blaze and Starlight Glimmer look shockingly similar. But they have different names. Maybe before Starlight stole cutie marks she was like Aria Blaze. In The Parent Map we see Starlight’s old room. Her old room looks like something Aria Blaze’s room would look like. Maybe she nicknamed herself Aria Blaze to sound cooler. But this brings another question. Aria Blaze wasn’t from The Human World, she might be from The Pony World but we don’t know exactly where she came from, at one point she was in The Pony World but there might even be another World where she came from. She was a siren, came or was from The Pony World and was sent to The Human World.
4 likesYes but if aria blaze is starlighs human form why were the sirens in the pony world? Well were, and if aria = starlight then what happed to the time line. Good ideas! Can the sirens dimention hop?
0 likes@Miniş Dünyası yeah but we’ve seen Starlight in the human world. She doesn’t look like Aria
1 like@gtx.princess When Pony Twilight came to the human world she didn’t look so much like Sci-Twi. I think small differences are possible they don’t have to look exactly the same.
2 likes@gtx.princess yes but don't they look terrifyingly similar?
0 likesi have a theory that sunset shimmer was actually from the human world, and theres a pony counterpart to human sunset, not a human counterpart to pony sunset
0 likesI think the other sunset shimmer is studying in the other school, and i think she has the personality as same as original sunset shimmer, maybe (sorry about my English because I'm Vietnamese ).
0 likeswho says that other sunset shimmer couldn't be in equestria?
0 likesPossibly an unpopular opinion but- I feel like sunshine shimmer is a way more important character than anyone realizes. Sometimes she feels more important than the mane six. But here me out first- Throughout all of the EG movies except the first where shimmer went all she-demon, she tends to be the one friend who has everyone's back even when being treated like shit, always the one to be the most understanding of all characters, and seems to have the most empathy out of them all. And as a matter of fact while watching Rainbow Rocks and Legend of Everfree, I even thought to myself how I feel like Sunset Shimmer is the one who truly harnesses the magic of friendship. She's the one they needed to help defeat the sirens. She was the one to follow human Twilight to see what was bothering her when she was worried about the magic she was experiencing. She was always there at every step when something went awry. What are your thoughts?
0 likesEdit: I just remembered something after posting but, in Rainbow Rocks, even though the mane six together have the magic of friendship, I remember finding it so odd that Sunset Shimmer out of all of them- (especially after once being a one of the meanest people) was the only one to see that they were all falling for the sirens' tricks and trying to make them all bicker with each other and spread negative magic. She was the only one to notice the energy rising to the sirens. Shimmer is definitely super powerful imo. Even though she says she still has a lot to learn about friendship, I think the characters have a lot to learn from her.
You should turn your Ninth Timeline video into a fanfic where future Twilight, Starlight & Spike discover this.
15 likesThe sunset pony version is starlight glimmer and they make this obivious in a soft way, she is the day, starlight the night, sunset is more like celestia, starlight like luna, they don't have human versions and she is human and starlight pony
0 likesSawtooth chill- getting kinda deep there 😳
0 likesMy thoughts are sense the universes sense yes without magic to influence her life like our sunset she could have been science or magic
0 likesBut take in mind are sunset had a fall out with celectia and ran away but ares was a pony turned to human through the magic portal mirror, but real original human sunset wouldn't have the advantage of magic and portals so she simply left the school hence like are sunsets running away and or she moved away
Are sunset is in reality actually a pony not really a human (but can be) she had a very magical redemption Ark but the difference between are sunset and actual human sunset was that are twilight and human main 6 were there to guide her in the right direction and help her
Human sunset wouldn't have that because again the human main 6 were involved with are sunset which in a way changed human sunsets fate and or destiny to some degree
Maybe our sunset convinced the other one to take her place in equestria lol
0 likesAlt take: whoever they are probably adapted a different name and transitoned. You never know ;)
1 likeFun Fact🦄!The MlP country Equestria is the name of the Equestria girls show world.
0 likesShe might live in another city and would probably be like demon sunset
0 likesWhat if Human Sunset is actually in Equestria and found one of those portals like that one in the cave on the island
0 likesI've read there was supposed to be the third season of EQG featuring the human Sunset Shimmer, but it didn't get off the ground.
4 likesIf Sunset Shimmer likes to feel superior and is full of pride than I think she would be in a gang like Mafia or at least the leader of one
0 likesOr Sunset Is the human one!
0 likesShe traveled to Equestria and lived there came back and wanted to unite both worlds cause..
(Cutiemark) defines human world and Equestria.
I mean, she Told about the human world to the ponies.
What if star swirl the bearded the protogue of gusty the great like
1 like1 celestia and luna with star swirl
2 twilight with celestia
3 luster dawn with twilight
Now we have a full line of mentors and succession and it perfectly fit equestria's time line and history we don't know much about grogar it is ironic that gusty banished grogar thought star swirl .start swirl thought celestia and banished pony of shadows celestia banished night mare moon and
The cutie mark theory is ✨ A big possible and might be the answer 😍➕💪
0 likesone day they will make a episode of the other Sunset Shimmer
0 likesthe theory of pony sunset killing her human self is a bit of a shock to some but it fills all the dark holes in the question of it...
0 likesWhen he said “maybe he killed the other sunset” but then I just thought omg 😱 sunset shimmer was prom queen for years but how could that happened didn’t she just go through the portal I mean maybe once or twice but for years what if the human sunset did die
0 likes2015 Swatooth explaing how to close human world portal by placing both Twilights opposite realm as the Sunsets.
0 likesI'm confused on how Twilight didn't upset the balance like how Celestia said the main 6 couldn't go with her because of their human counterparts was it because Twilight's human counterpart wasn't friends with the human main 6????
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Потому что все они вместе - это слишком много. Только Твайлайт сама, без других, не нарушила бы баланс. Я так думаю.
3 likes@название отсутствует en si Celestia lo decia porque una contraparte puede pasar como un igual de casualidad que hayan 6 personas iguales entre si puede haber problemas como que crean que son aliens y los quieren examinar o cosas similares
2 likesWhat makes the most sense about this is that, just like in Equestria, Human Sunset could have dropped out of school. I feel like murder is too far for a kids show lol
0 likesWell Starlight Glimmer doesn’t have a human counterpart, so mabey Sunset Shimmer doesn’t have one either?
0 likesI could've sworn there was an episode of her literally kidnapping her human self and just leaving her someplace. I think it was just a weird ass dream though, but it makes sense 2 me
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Pretty sure it was just a dream
0 likes@RawCookieDough yep
0 likesAnd also, that would've made an excellent episode 👏 👌 👍 because at least this theory that sawtooth made would've never come into my mind
0 likesNow, I' m scared for this character...
0 likesSawtooth: Another area where she feels superior...
8 likesMe: murder?!
Sawtooth: maybe musical talent maybe shes the next sapphire shores.
Me: ok good.
There's only one sunset,mainly because she's not from Equestria but from earth
0 likesI never even thought one time if there was a human sunset shimmer
1 likemore likely biological human sunset shimmer is far enough away that we hadn't encounter the biological human sunset shimmer
0 likesI’ve always thought about the other sunset but I thought maybe she’s dead or maybe her human self lives in a different country.
0 likesI read somewhere that some people don’t have a Human Counterpart, I’m not sure if it was confirmed or not but I’m sure it explains something,I’m really not sure, it was ages ago it was from the mlp
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yup
1 likeI think that the real human sunset is like pony sunset shimmer, maybe she was in another school far away she was a very good student and loved her studies. But then just like pony sunset human sunset wanted power and so she ran away and ‘till this day she is hiding somewhere where no one can ever find her trying to find a way to get all the magic in power in the world but unlike pony sunset human sunset has not changed her bad ways and has no friends………over time she has been forgotten by all humanity but human sunset promised herself one day she would return into the actual human world and out of hiding seeking revenge……..
0 likesBut that’s just my theory but in my opinion it would be a good one
I dunno about Sunset and killing, but I think that Sunset could be keeping her human self locked in a jail or something
0 likesmaybe she moved away, similar to how pony sunset moved away from equestria?
0 likesWhat if…? Human sunset is in the pony world? Like she passed through the same that sunset passed and find a way to equestria? The other possibility is that considering that the human world is a little bit in the past (idk if someone apart of me realized that) maybe human sunset is on school and all that equestria sunset passed haven’t pass to her yet?
0 likesThe possibilities really are endless, but I have a theory that human Sunset might be in jail for something. I know it doesn't really make sense lmao
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She doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.
1 likeSo…is Starlight similar to Sunset that she has no human counterpart? Or is she a homeschool human?
0 likesHuman sunset could have been trying to make magic and a experiment went wrong and killed her.
0 likesCould she be in the government, state governor, or principle assistant? As you said she is power hunger and pony Sunset Shimmer was close to Celestia. So could see be a retired vice president, state governor, or principle assistant.
0 likesOk so this might be crazy but one thing that is connected to sunset it well the sunset in one of the movies there’s twilight and there’s also a sunset I think sunset might not have killed human sunset but she might have captured her and hidden her so no one could ever hear from human sunset just a theory
0 likes2:13 you forgot someone named
3 likesStarlight glimmer
I think, just like the original sunset shimmer, she maybe ran away from her home to another city, maybe even country. because I think there is a sunset shimmer like everyone else.
0 likesif Sunset has no human counterpart then she is not the only one I mean baby Flurry and Starlight Glimmer don't have a human counterpart
2 likesMaybe when sunset turned into a demon she became a part of the human sunset and they became one person
0 likesMagic = knowledge
0 likesOoh! I never thought about this!
3 likesthis is what I asking myself when I started to watch the Equestria girls .,.
0 likesMaybe there is I am not sure but I believe if I saw every movie with her in it I think there would be a human sunset
0 likesLove that possible Mirai Nikki reference
0 likesI knew this literally as I watched it I never really questioned that
0 likesThere was a finale planned with Human Sunset being the focus and we see how her life was unintentionally ruined by Pony Sunset and after they meet and clash, Pony Sunset, filled with regret, would return to Equestria, the portal would be closed and magic removed from the human world. All of which happening permanently. But since the show was ending, S9 their sole focus and G5 production soon in full swing, this big finale was scrapped. So the best we fans can get is to put the finale together ourselves. But who knows?
3 likesThey should totally find the other sunset shimmer but she’ll be evil and she captures someone and turns them evil that would be amazing
0 likesIdea for video: Is there a sun𝗥𝗜𝗦𝗘 shimmer?
1 likeI guess, as this sunset belongs to equestria and came to human world then the sunset of the human world would have came to equestria!
1 likePart os sunset is her drive to break barriers. I'm sure human realm sunset is in the pony realm somehow
0 likes1. Do why Human Twilight has wings when she ponys up but as a pony she’s a unicorn and
6 likes2. Human Sunset is probably from Crystal Prep, or she just goes to another school. Another possibility is Sunset Shimmer was just a normal person that’s definitely not Sunset Shimmer but she saw a pretty girl in the school who was the original human Sunset and that was from Sunset’s first ever visit to the human world. She wanted to look so much like the pretty girl so she tried to take her place. She got so mad on how pretty she was and how Sunset was so plain and boring so she did some science and their bodies swapped and now she was living the the human Sunset’s body and she wanted to see the effects on her in the pony world so she went there and she was just like the original Human Sunset. Here’s probably another one. She was at the human world and saw someone who was her, basically. She was nice and friendly but mean pony Sunset was mad she looked like her so she got her kicked out by pretending to be her and she had to stay at her house but she decided to go to Crystal Prep and met some other ones but the bus crashed and everyone on the bus were never to be seen again. Those were some of the original students at crystal prep who don’t appear in the Friendship Games movie because of their disappearance. Pony sunset stole twilight’s crown and all of the things that happened from the EG movies happened.
I feel like I have seen both of the sunsets in the thumbnail I think the one on the left is the movie one and the one on the right is maybe another version of her from a different movie and the tv show idk both of them seem familiar and that’s not just bc there the same person
0 likeswhat if sunset was actually only human? and maybe we should actually be asking if there is a pony sunset?
0 likesI have a theory that same as pony sunset, the human sunset is in the other world.
0 likesmaybe sunset is like starlight since she also doesn't have a human counterpart in the human world
0 likesAnd question. Where's is human starlight? where is the original human starlight?
3 likesi like to think that she's older and moved to another city
0 likesSO FOR ANSWERING THE QUESTION!! (Sorry little hyped up. Some things might not make sense cause of ideas bouncing at each other) So I think if there is a original Sunset Shimmer in the human world. I just think she will be just...either a one rockstar with alot of energy and curiosity.Or She will be a bully delinquent. (i can't do fashion sorry.) Also.The Cutie mark thing was very clever. I didn't realize it but just now! Sunset Shimmer is the one who DISCOVERED the whole new world. Because she was that curious. Okay i am done bYEe
0 likesI mean pony sunset left celestia’s school, so perhaps the human sunset also left. This could be why we’ve never seen her.
0 likesShe knew that pinkie pie had the portal behind the scenes cartoon, I think sunset and the other sunset shimmer were constantly swapping places in the pony world
0 likesI’ve been eating for a whole week for him to post
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eating? ohh you mean waiting lol
0 likesthem* ^^
3 likes@Keri_Plays yes
0 likes@Idk Sawtooth goes by them, not him.
2 likesMy theory is that the other Sunset Shimmer is in the pony world but grew up in the human world. Opposte to our Sunset Shimmer
0 likesOk all the theories tha sawtooth made is really making soo much sense to me
0 likesMaybe hear me out, what if human Sunset died of illness, like the killed theory it solves many plot holes, and she could also live far away, like how we don't know, where our Sunset grew up maybe that is where she lived and died
0 likesThis is a stretch i know
0 likesBut what if
Human sunset IS pony sunset
Human sunset made a life in the pony and convinced everyone she was from the pony world and when she went to “another” world she actually went to her home world
We just dont know where the pony sunset is
WOW FINALLY !!!!
3 likesWhat if the sunset we know is actually from the human world and she found her way to the pony world and pretended to be a pony and learn magic and the real pony sunset lives somewhere in equestria
0 likesHOLY SWEET CELESTIA YOUR RIGHT!!!
1 likeWasn't she originally from the human world?
0 likesCan you make a video about what happens to twilight's owl?
0 likesI never even think about it 😩
3 likesIdk if anyone remebers but in the song release the magic song the professor say somthing about only having a few students like twilight and they always but the good ones always leave, maybe one of those was sunset
0 likesIf you look at the equestria shorts it's shown a human counter parts I saw in a YouTube video of sun set other than her pony self
0 likesMaybe she is in other dimension,like she traveled before
0 likesIs there gonna be any more Equestria Girls episodes or movies??
0 likesFinally another video
3 likesOne thing I am thinking about (I know I am late here) is that is the pony version of sunset killed the human version, would it some how make a ripple affect in a time line some how. (Don't know if some one or a group brought this up in any way, as I said I am sorry if I'm late)
0 likesWhat about Starlight Glimmer's human counterpart? 🤔
0 likesHasbro: Write that down write that down
2 likesOr what if we are asking the wrong question maybe we should be asking where is the pony version of her what if the one we knew was originally the human version 🤔
0 likesWell enter dimensional traveler with only one counterpart that's technically impossible because every dimension must have another counterpart that's how the multiverse works
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Complexities of the multiverse have infinite possibilities infinite reality pending qualities infinite an anomalies teleportation devices infinite planes of existence and everything I mean everything is a plane of existence if you look at it just like if you travel or close the multiversal reality timelines you see the unstableness and the guardian watching over it all sitting on top of the timekeepers thrown all of the multiverse itself revolves around the guardian which is in the center of every multivitis and the next multiverse there will be another another and another infinite time zone reality bending and into the dimensional traveling and causes reality to slip out of your hands and make it into the Fabrications of the anomalies creatures with an unimaginable power and influence over the world someone to contain someone to study someone to protect someone want them the room free someone then they'll use them for entertainment someone they use them for money to use them for science and technological advancement the multiverse incident interesting reality do you traveling through time and space itself making the complex reality chain we see today from infinite multiverse
1 likenot necessarily
2 likesBut the complexity of reality can be questioned anything the elements of neutral do it's you just have to look in the right places a 50/50 character for the wheel of this is that represents half good half bad where can we find that well the multiverse reality complexity and the unstableness send them multiversal traveling we can question theorize speculate but we all know that magic has three parts good neutral evil so well travel no more divorce see what you can find realize travel and be the multiverse and meat that motivational guardian the rest in the heart of our multiverse
1 likeWhat what makes you so chill the interdimensional timeline you can see everything from a plane of existence beyond their own
0 likes@John Kojihow about you just stop talking nonstop because it really annoys people. :/
1 likeone question i have is if the human pony are there pony counter parts then why are the human pony alot more younger and if the pony version of the main six have kids then does those that mean the human version have kids to? and if twilight is immortal then does that mean human twilight is immortal since we know that the human world also has magic ;-;
0 likesSunset is a little stubborn. FREINDSHIP IS TRUE. It is very IMPORTANT, Twilight Deserves to be the queen of equestria.
0 likesI think she lives in another Town and is more like a young cutthroat business person. They’ll all about money and power.
0 likesThe max brain level: 100. sawtooths brain level: 10000
0 likesVideo request: Why is human Twilight an alicorn? Netflix posted new equestria girls episodes named canterlot high tales, in the episode 1: dance magic, Twilight turns into human-pony which makes her have ears and ALICORN wings. So your telling me that if for example Applejack turns into an alicorn her human version will to? Or did human Twilight actually did something to earn those wings? And why wasn't she an alicorn when in that cruce thing movie she want to equestria?Please copy paste my comment se cause it's interesting to think that a human Twilight and pony Twilight are different
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Maybe her geode draws Pony Twilight’s powers and turns her into an Alicorn. When she walks through the portal, she is a unicorn because she doesn’t draw that power.
2 likesLet’s be honest we guys watched my little pony 😂
0 likesI want to ask how would ponies communicate if a pony is born deaf or mute
0 likeswait what about the question if sunset IS her human form?
0 likesSawtooth: Theirs an idea floating around that the equestrian sunset killed the human sunset and took her place
16 likesMe:……..yeah I don’t think her evil self would do that, sure she bullied/terrorized an entire school but I don’t think she went as far as killing anybody
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
1 likeWete homan twaylite in anader scoole@Terminator 156
0 likesI Agree Because There Might Have Been A Original Sunset (H) And I Have A Theory: What If Original Sunset And Original Twilight Sparkle GoTo The Same School Together Because I Saw A Crystal Prep Unform On Original Sunset
0 likesWhat if... Twilight Sparkle meet the Dazzlings first instead of Sunset Shimmer?
0 likesHeh I was honestly thinking a gamer for Sunset. It would fit her angry and stuck up mindset and pony sunset is known to love playing video games with Dash so…
0 likesThis was also my question in my head for a long time now good thing i saw ur video
0 likesFirst❤️
4 likesEdit: have a good day everyone❤️
edit 2: whos wondering if a another sunset exist?
Pues a veces pienso que no hizo un viaje a otra dimensión si no un viaje en el tiempo donde los ponis evolucionaron
0 likesEveryone has a different home the same might be for human Sunset
0 likesMaybe she doesn't have a human counterpart because she was originally human and one day she discovered the mirror and just got wrapped up into the pony world
0 likesIma just say it there might be four tribes earth,sky,magic and the crystal ponys!!!!!!!!
0 likesFun fact ~everyone is Early here until the refresh
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Sooo true I tried it
1 likeI honestly thought that there wasn't a human sunset because she WAS the human sunset I'm not sure probably not
0 likesOf course there's an human sunset
0 likesDo you remember the the movie of the games between the schools and ,her powers got sucked up through the portal which means that is her cutie mark
0 likesI think she IS the orginal, i mean the world has never had a person come from another world before.
0 likes1:30 that got dark😭
4 likeswhat if the sunset shimmer from the human world found a portal to a different world other than equestria.
0 likes🧡💛❤️🌅
0 likesi agree with the fact that pony sunset wouldn't kill human sunset but i wouldn't put it past her to therein human sunset maybe she threaten to do something mager if human sun set didn't move away so she did and pony sunset took her place
0 likespeople always ask wheres human sunset but never hows human sunset 😔😔😔
1 likeDid anyone else see the "my little pony next-generation official trailer"LIKE WHAT DID THEY DO TO MLP
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Yep. Pipp Pipp Hooray!!
0 likesOh grow up. It's not that bad.
0 likesI WAS THINKING THIS FOR 1 DAY AGO AND AFTER I WATCH THE MOVIE "Mirror Magic" I JUST REALIZED THAT SUNSET DONT HAVE A HUMAN SIDE LIKE STARLIGHT🤨?
0 likesHuman Sunset may not even live on the same continent. Who knows
0 likesFINALLY!! SOMEONE SAID IT--
0 likesHuman twilight is based on his past, studying
1 likeThere's a chance she's in another country
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Maybe.
0 likesBut human twilight just happened to be across town I don't think human sunset would just be in a different country.
It's too easy.
She actually doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.
0 likesSawtooth Waves I have a conclusion so you know how twilight got into celesta school sunset wanted to do it to so let me explain twilight is trying to hatch the egg rainbow dash does a sonic rainboom shocks twilight and sunset to try out there thing twilight does it and gets its cutie mark sunset gets her cutie mark the shock on her she almost makes it but messes up cause her shock was bigger which made it worse but twilight had the perfect amount to get her to work so sunset had to try all the things all over again this happened for a long time of hard work she failed and failed but didn't stop her the time when twilight was asked to make new friends this is the time when sunset gave up she thought that knowledge was useless and thought power is what she needed but the other half of her didn't accept don't stop now we can make it just give it a try this is the same thing is happening in the human world this is the time when they splited up the human sunset choosed knowledge while sunset pony choosed power they haved got what they wanted now the next thing that pony sunset was planning for is twilight crown cause she knew that she would probably get it so she planned for weeks until she got it 2 weeks and then when it was night time she swapped out the crown with a fake one but when she got into the portal she known that there was a human of herself so she pretended to be her so she made a fake picture of her exam to get in the school she saw celesta and showed her she thought it was real so she got rolled in but she lost the crown so maybe her crown was to celesta she thought i have to get it so i can be powerful now twilight realized her crown was fake so she knew that someone took it but where then she remembered that she woke up and saw a shadow but when't back to sleep now she thought of something the portal was opened last night someone have been through thats probably why i woke up so she planned that she will go into the portal but the rest of the main six wanted to come but she said that theres probably 2 of you guys so she said that I will be back she went through now she was human she was scared of herself and realized spike is a dog now she went into the school and saw something she signed up so she could get her crown back later on she made friends and when she told them that she needs help to get that crown back they planned to get it and when the day arrived she did her thing when the accounments we're about to be told celesta said twilight sparkle so sunset shimmer that wasn't true she thought if i can't earn it i will take it she wen't up to twilight to snatch her crown she got it put it on her head and transformed into sunset demon but the power of the main six she got defeated by them she said sorry and didn't actually know what friendship was now she cleaned up her mess and starting learning friendship but after that she forgot what she decided and pretend that she was the human sunset shimmer she left behind what she while the other sunset shimmer is keep trying to make it and learned friendship thats all sawtooth waves
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my fingers are dying cause it took me awhile to finish it they really hurt
0 likesAlicorn Sunset Shimmer theory video: Princess of Harmony (yin yang cutiemark sunset version omg!!!)
1 likeOkay but what if human Sunset went to the pony world-
0 likesafter a while i been think of it i been realise some couples in the two world are not the same SO maybe the human sunset never been born i gonna take a non canon exemple in the pony world a.j and r.d are such a couple compare to the human world where instead a.j and rarity are such a couple (again this is not canon this was just an exemple) so if some couples are different in the both world this could mean maybe sunset never been exist in the human world what do you think ?
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2 likesHi
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves :)
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves hi
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves hello 👋 😀
0 likesI'm Indonesia 🇮🇩
0 likesCan you check my coment
0 likesWoah
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves deo request: Why is human Twilight an alicorn? Netflix posted new equestria girls episodes named canterlot high tales, in the episode 1: dance magic, Twilight turns into human-pony which makes her have ears and ALICORN wings. So your telling me that if for example Applejack turns into an alicorn her human version will to? Or did human Twilight actually did something to earn those wings? And why wasn't she an alicorn when in that cruce thing movie she want to equestria?Please copy paste my comment se cause it's interesting to think that a human Twilight and pony Twilight are different
1 like:) :D
0 likesHi
0 likesWhat if the world was created due to sunset coming there that’s why she’s the one and only.
0 likesDay 5 of asking sawtooth to talk about zecora and a possible zebra society
0 likesTheory- I think that there is no human sunset, I mean.. look at all the humans in the school and the ponies in equestria! Not all humans have a pony counter-part. Sunset could be one of the ones who doesn't have a HUMAN counter-part. Or perhaps she lives far away from the human main six. BUT HEY, THAT'S JUST A THEORY.
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sorry for my grammar ;-;
0 likesIsn't magic a bit like science in away
0 likesi always thought that she would be jail as she was never reformed.
0 likesI think the switched places.human Sunset could be in somewhere of Equestria.
0 likesI’m pretty sure the there is a human sunset cause when I watch the third equestria girls movie when twilight looked at sunset her face made me think the she was saying “how is sunset shimmer at CHS” and that made me think that there is a human sunset
0 likesOriginally they said they were gonna do an episode on the original Sunset Shinmer but it never happened which is sad
0 likesSo basically she's the avatar
1 likeOK so from the very beginning and your headcanon that she tied the worlds together that is complete bullshit. There is confirmed by Starswirl to be an infinite amount of worlds, some having the same characters but different, others having completely different characters. That is all.
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Also sunset was still interested in studying and science like Starswirl and Twilight, in the comic you referenced Sunset is shown sneaking into the dark magic library to study anything Celestia doesn't want her to go after. Also none of the other characters had a music interest while as talented in the field as sunset, you'd need to prove sunset has more of an interest in that field than others do. Heck with Starswirl all his science is just the magic he studied, science in the pony world correlates to magic on a fundamental level.
0 likesThere is no Starlight Glimmer either so maybe Starlight is the pony version of Sunset and Sunset is the human version of Starlight
0 likesWhat if real human sunset shimmer did the exact same thing as the pony sunset. Like what if the human sunset did the opposite like she went through a portal to Equestria and chooses to live there
0 likesDid you know there are two other alicorns?
0 likesI wanted all movies of my little pony
0 likes... the original Sunset Shimmer human was already dead... She just told me. But the pony version is looking for her sometimes. I hope you're not too scared from the idea of a car crash taking the life of the human version, then Sunset Shimmer pony version coming out of Equestria being part of plans for the future of both worlds. I'm sorry Sunset, it's just what happened if you find this.
0 likesI like the first theory better. Also start using the comics for help.
0 likesHey do you ever wonder why the wonderbolts aren't even in equestria girls?
0 likesMaybe og sunset went to pony world and changed her identity.. if anything i think it may make sense cuz in the 5th gen of mlp or the most recent movie involving the newest ponies there is no magic in their world, maybe cuz of an imbalance or a outlier that came in and interracted and maybe mixed genetics with a pony in that world which caused an event that took magic from one side and gave it to the other. Or maybe the genetics mixed more than enough times to take out the magic.. or even the ideas and history and even current writings of magic were taken and destroyed so noone could teach or learn to do magic.
0 likesSo that means… Sunset is not like other girls, she’s a rare baddie 🙄💅
0 likesIt's funny to think how Sunset is technically older then the she actually is considering her pony form is presumably an adult where as in the human world she's in high school
0 likesThe human sunset would be a true villain in human world. Believe me, Sunset is reformed but how about Human Sunset. Whould she be reformed
0 likesNarrator: Where is the original
0 likesSunset Shimmer????
Me(5secsBeforeTheVidEvenStarts)
: PROLY DEAD AS HEK
Since I only see mlp content only once in a while I just find it so odd how your editing looks like other video easseys like yo good job but it just took me by surprise
0 likesWHAT IF SUNSET KILLED THE HUMAN SUNSET?
0 likesIf sunset shimmer has a canterpart in this world. Big question is where is she. Or sunset shimmer knows she's there but avoid her counterpart. So do the other girls.so they won't get confused by who is who.
0 likesMaybe the day pony sunset arrived something happened to her like maybe she got in an accident or ran away and while running away from home she found another portal to equestria and ended somewhere in that universe and while that happened pony sunset bumped into her human parents and that's how she's been living in the human world
0 likesI think that she did lived in the human world then she went into the pony world
0 likesif it was this then she would know about the crown she attempted to steal
So I think she would use the magic from the pony world (except the magic of harmony and friendship)
She is a student at the school
Cause sunset has a house in the human world
And then she lived in the pony school
I’m James’s daughter and I think that the human world sunset possibly traveled to Equestrian and then went back home and so there’s the pony sunset still in Equestria.
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This account is for my dad
0 likes"Instead of "where is human Sunset?" maybe we should be asking-"
0 likesWHY IS HUMAN SUNSET????
"is there a..?"
oh.
In the main picture which one is the real Sunset Shimmer I have a feeling it’s the one gasping and the other is equestrian Sunset Shimmer
0 likesI just realized when I was watching equestria girls when starlight goes to the human world i was like there most be another starlight glimmer
1 likeOoor the human Sunset lives somewhere else in the world who knows she could be in a place similar to France, England, Italy, Spain, Europe or Africa which is why we never saw her.
0 likesUh oh, I’m going back into my mlp phase
0 likesHey sawtooth umm I was wondering can u do a vid about how Twilight got that flowing mane in the future
0 likesI kinda think sunset from the human world and sunset from pony bill are one you can see her cutie mark both worlds are connected on her hands
0 likeswhen start a complex lore in the mdl of a franchise like mlp doom zelda and other things
0 likesThe original sunset might be living at a beach weve never seen i mean her pony cutie mark is a sun so it makes sence and what if she has Another clone? From another world? Like maybe an alien sunset? Twilight and so on, what if there 3 speachies human pony and alien?
0 likesMaybe I know when twilight got there take her crown back to eqestria her counterpart was out somewhere to study maybe sunset shimmer's counter part moved somewhere else and never came back
0 likesI think The human sunset went through the portal, And got lost in the pony world
0 likesSawtooh:(says that the sunset form the pony world killed the sunset of the human world)
0 likesMe:why do I hear the man behind the slaughter
RIGHT you know how the sirens were banished to the human realm so they don't have human alter egos what if sunset is in a similar situation
0 likesEXACTLY IVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUTTTT
0 likesWhat if the sunset we know is the human sunset shimmer and she found the portals and way between worlds and hence how she met our Celestia learned magic and why she's the only one who goes back and forth between both worlds cause she is the only one of herself maybe
0 likesi mean if there was an originall im sure shed show herself by now mainly because the sunset we know and her friends have formed a band and they even were shown on television its wat gives them at least one enemy who uses a mirror or was it a phone to trap the friends ??? i mean this is just my thoughts and i doubt u will take notice but i find this to be a very interesting factor if she is real why hasnt she confronted our sunset ?? for taking the fame that the other sunset always wanted ??
0 likesPlot twist: the human Sunset Shimmer went to Equestria and got lost so we didn't see her
0 likesThere’s one of everyone at the high school 😊
1 likeWhat if because Sunset Shimmer went to the human world and stayed there, because she stayed there the other one never came back
1 likeOg pony Sunset left her Equestria...
0 likesOg human Sunset left her Earth...
Wait. Did og human Sunset leave Earth? Not so much so as to go to the pony world, but maybe another world entirely... another dimension. Only implication is she can't return and go back as easily as with the mirror.
Maybe she found herself in one of the alternate realities we saw during the Twilight/Starlight time travel episode? Maybe she came to this world and is currently locked up for being batshit crazy?
"I HAVE YELLOW SKIN!! I HAVE BLONDE AND RED HAIR GROWING NATURALLY OUT OF MY HEAD!! I'M NOT CRAZY!! I'M NOT CRAZY!! NO!! I DON'T WANT ANYMORE NEEDLES!!I'LL BE GOOD!! I'LL STAY QUIET!! PLEASE!! I DON'T WANT TO FORGET ANYMORE.."
Ahem. Sorry. It got away from me there for a minute.
But the Sparkle was in the crystal Academy, maybe Sunset was in another country altogether😅
0 likesHer cutie mark is like yin and yang.
0 likesShe probably doesn't have one because pinkie pie knows everybody and when she met twilight she said "do u have a twin sister" or something like that. she probably would've said the same to sunset if sunset did have one. but it would be cool if she did have one
0 likesi think her cutie mark has something to do with balance, but im not sure lol. if her cutie mark does mean that then maybe it's just that there is no human sunset and sunset was made to introduce magic to the human world.
0 likesNVM I REALISED THE WHOLE THING FOR ONE OF UR THEORIES IS LITERALLY THAT
Uhhhh... yk that she probably is just a normal person right? I mean, what made her want to “prove” herself is that her friend got token away
0 likesI think sunset is a person from both Dimensions.
0 likesSo say human Sunset got kicked out of school, same as the pony one. She now has nothing left in that world that matters to her, no idea what to do next. Pony Sunset comes in, and tells her of a magical place she can get a fresh start. So human Sunset goes to the pony world, to find a new place to live and start a new life
0 likesI am also thinking, there’s a human starlight glimmer right?
0 likesShe's basically Yin and Yang my guy
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Honestly I feel like maybe she read books about legends and detentions an maybe she somehow got to the pony world but ehh idk
0 likesMy brothers and I have a theory that sunset killed his self from that universe, I know very well xd but it came to us out of nowhere and also because I said "a corpse appears with a xd"
0 likesmaybe human sunset discovered a portal to another world
0 likesI think she’s coming in season three?
0 likesWah!! He sounds like kouru from ouran highschool host club
0 likesWell saw two players if you want my thing on it I just think that the human sunset might be dead like that theory on the human cozy glow I mean it's a possibility like that human star squirrel so maybe you should think about that being a possibility or something bigger
0 likesI think starlight glimmer is the sunset shimmer of the pony world and some that shimmer is the starlight glimmer of the human world, and forgotten friendship we see that sunset shimmer is friends with Trixie and starlight glimmer is friends with Trixie and pony world also they are both very similar so
1 likeI’ve litterly been asking myself since we met human world twilight
0 likeswhat if human sunset never actually appeared what if shes just in another school that didnt participate in the school event in the equestria games or something
0 likesMaybe she's too famous To be seen around there parts Of the world😘Might be She is traveling The world🛬🛫✈🛳🚁🚄🌆🎡🎠🎢🍾🍷
0 likesi love my little pony
0 likesI always thought that where is human Sunset Shimmer.
0 likesthe real human sunset
0 likesAnd what about human world Glim-Glam?
0 likesi think human sunset had to move in the human world becouse she was kicked out all of the schools. since sunset was also sent to tho another world and kinda got kicked out :)
0 likesand one more question, is there another starlight glimmer bc they both has the same thing
0 likesJust like the pony sunset shimmer would travel to another world far away from people the human sunset shimmer left her home to far away place
0 likesI always wondered that because all ponies and girls have same dna so what if ss did have a pony twin
0 likesI think sunset is the breach between the 2 worlds
0 likes1:26 I’ve been thinking that for years
1 likeI think she's in the shadows bolts but she is never seen
0 likesI like your first theory the best
0 likesMe when I have crush on SunSet......No really. Hehe. You know both worlds????? I would pick either. Sunset Shimmer is also Legend!!!!!!!!!
0 likesWait what about Starlight Glimmer? What if there’s a original human Starlight Glimmer
0 likesit’s always where is human sunset and never how is human sunset 😔
0 likesUnless Sunset was the human, who found equestria. And has been pretending to be a pony. Who wanted to steal the crown to make chaos
0 likes3:11 I SAID POLITICS OUT LOUD I THOUGHT SHE WOULDVE BEEN INTO POLITICS
0 likesJust a theory, what if the original human sunset shimmer died by a freak accident?
0 likesShe died
0 likesShe gets killed
Shes doomed
I believe that the human sunset never existed. Or if she did. The pony sunset stay in the human world to long to the point where the human sunset slowly disappeared.
0 likesSunset Shimmer "Mirai Nikki'd" her variant.😈
0 likesYes there has to be an human sunset if there hes to be two of the same a human and a pony and they both like the same so there has to be a human and pony sunset you get what i am saying right
0 likesI believe i thought that she originally came from the human world but yet again i was 7 at the time and i didnt question much
0 likesThere is but probably not in that world because the pony sunset was put into the human dimension right? Which means the original human sunset could be in another dimension... I mean it is the only thing that makes sense currently!
0 likesReal question is where the hell is human starlight
1 likeMy headcanon, while dark, is that the Human sunset killed herself.
0 likesHey have a another theory about the two worlds what if something happened in the human world used something that created an Alternate world, that would be Equestria. Again just a Theory I had.
0 likesthere is no way she could have killed her i mean would she go that far
0 likesThere’s a theory that sunset shimmer is still in equestria they just don’t know that
0 likeswhat about starlight glimmers human form?? isn't there only one of HER??
0 likesSomething definitely happened to her
0 likesWhat about starlight we saw her went through the portal but not her human counter parte
1 likeI HAVE A THEROY when you talking about sunburt and trixe beeing dawns parents i thought that mabye it could have been sunsets daughter or sister because dawn is that same as sunrise and sunset is the opisite of sunrise. Their cutie marks are similar kind of because of the sun but the point of their cutie marks and the names are whats the lead. I dont know if its true but sunset seems to be the same age as twilight and the group and pinkie had a kid. So sunset could be her mom or her sister ( i also commented this on your other video )
0 likesActually I have a question questionIs sunset shimmer Princess Celesta and princess Luna Sister it is Pretty obviousCause her name starts with sunset
0 likesWell you were talking about that pony sunset killed human sunset ? , but isn’t possible that pony-sunset used a sort of spell to trap the human sunset and still took her place
0 likesWow i never thought of this😢😧 this is deep
1 likeIn the music theory one its not really the same thing i mean sci-twi is completely diffenert from our twily in attitude ( and slightly in appearance)
0 likesLike with what pinkie pie said do you have a sister who lives in the city?
It could be that there is another version of sunset as we later found out that there was more the one portal to equestria
( though o thibk personally that the writers just didnt really think that far ahead , like sunset is meant to be the main character in equestria girls and be its own thing but becauseade Twilight aka Twily is
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* but because Twilight is so dang popluar and there was a high demand to have her in EQ girls we got both twliy and then later on saddled with sci-twi
0 likesJust wanted to ask you where do you watch my little pony season 6 to 9?
0 likesThat what I want to know too 😼
0 likesMore like "where is human Sunset buried" lol
0 likesis there human starlight Glimmer into EG ?
0 likesActually she didn't bring magic to the human world, the windigos did, remember thats where they went when they were banishes
0 likesWhat if there isn't a pony sunset?
0 likesI think that pony sunsets made human sunset go through the portal and now she’s in a Questria
0 likes1:30 i disagree mlp is a show for kids most definetlely meaning that it would not involve killing.
0 likesI know we’re human world sunset is because I made a Wikipedia page about her so basically human world sunset shimmer didn’t get along with anyone because she thought she was weird so she decided to leave The town and start a new life on her own
0 likesMy thinking that we might be able to base this on human twilight she went to a different school so human sunset probably went to a different school and like you said probably she did music so probably music school but I don’t think she is evil otherwise she probably would have heard that there’s magic in this world now from the second human world movie she probably would have heard and be ready to go to the school and gang power for herself so what I think is that the only reason why she began evil because she was good at magic but since there’s no magic in the human world she move to music and maybe writing music change her motive of power in the future but a humble human sunset wanting to become an idol and inspiration to other people.
0 likesSunset works in some kind of lab maybe
0 likesI think there are two of them because One color is light and one is dark
0 likesI think that there isn't a human Sunset shimmer. I mean she is the connection between both worlds. maybe it was her destiny to bring the worlds together. IDKK
0 likesI had a teory that Sunset has one parents from pony's wold and one from a human's.
0 likesi think that when ponies or humans are born its similar to tinkerbell where they split into two but maybe sunset didnt split?
0 likesInstead of kill maybe the human sunset captured the nice pony sunset then she got free
0 likesShe goes to crystal prep and didn't go to the friendship games.
0 likesI'm here only for music from the Arcana
0 likesThis video took like 5 sharp left turns but I'm not complaining XD
0 likesMy thought maybe she is just in a different place like Las Vegas or something I mean we have never been that far out of counterlot highs zone
0 likesI mean everypony in equestria as their human counterpart sunset can't be any different
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves the payment for the membership is 5 dollars so in the Philippines is 250 pesos can you make the price lower😟
0 likesGet this. Sunset is the original from the human world and found a way to equestria when she was little and her pony version was far away like in the town that had no cutie marks or further. And sunset just went back to the human world eventually. Just a thought
0 likesWhat if sun came FROM THE HUMAN WORLD
0 likesYou know I’ve always wondered
0 likeswhat if human sunset and pony sunset was the same person
0 likesAnother crazy theory what if pinky pie travels between worlds and that's why she knows everything when she claims she wasn't there
0 likesHow about Starlight Glimmer?
0 likesI think if the pony and the human Sunset is like the rest that would mean human sunset some how found her way over to the pony world not sure how but it is possible that pony sunset is human sunset
0 likesHow about how you go to the human world in modern equestria??????
0 likesmaybe the original human sunset lives with her parents maybe she also got greedy maybe her teacher kicked her out and she was never able to earn money so she goes to her parents and lives with them ...hiding in her home town (edit) and maybe she thought she was to smart to be a normal student maybe she wanted to be pushed up a few grades but never did
0 likesMe listening to his Alicorn members
0 likesSawtooth - PetrolHead02,Syannax,Princess Starglow, ALLISON H,etc
Me - I have a Allison H that goes to my school and he's my friend too.
Not me slowly going back into mlp fandom o,0
0 likesThat damn airplane that could be schooting stars-
мы не видели и человека старлайт. Она тоже была показана пришедшей из мира пони. человеческую версию не видели
0 likesWait. I thought sunset is from the human world?
0 likes🌄🌅
0 likesWell I just saw sunset is in Hooman world and starlight is taking her place in pony world lol
0 likeswhat if tirek was human?
0 likesWell sunset is from equestria. But where is the human?
1 likemaybe she was like human twilight
0 likesI love your voice
0 likesNot only sunset is there missing out in human world but Starlight glimmer is also only in one world right😏🤔
0 likesActually considering Sunset is from Canterlot and most of the characters in the human world are from Ponyville it makes sense we’ve never seen human Sunset or Starlight.
0 likesThat said, this is an excellent idea for a fanfic. The Sonic Rainbooms get famous online and are scheduled for a gig on TV and Human Sunset wants to abduct and replace out Sunset on stage.
The actual truth is that there isn’t another sunset shimmer
0 likesif twilight in the pony world is a student of celestia in the human world she is also a student, sunset shimmer betrayed princess celestia "broke the law" then maybe in the Human world she is in this in jail for a crime she committed?
1 likeStarlight Glimmer also don't have human version. Because she is from another city.
0 likesI think that human sunset shimmer live in another city.
No, she never resulted to physical harm, but its a kids show. She probably would of, tbh
0 likesStars world just enters the human realm and dies will just be the funniest thing ever
0 likesMy theory is sun set is actually from the human world and found the portal and went through meeting celestial and ect
2 likesIs my theory good?
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She forgor
1 likeThis was randomly recommended by YouTube for me.
0 likesThanks. I guess?
It is sad that the Human Sunset had an untimely demise. But, it wasn't Equestria Sunset that killed her human counterpart. Human Sunset was killed...BY ME!!! Muhahahahaha! And on top of that: I have been behind all the darkness in the Pony World, and will continue to do so, in the hopes of creating enough chaos to open a Master Oblivion Gate for my agents to bring even more havoc on Equestria so that I can return to the Mortal Realm in my true form, and destroy all of my little brother's creation back to the basic atoms of which they came, and remake Time & Space into what it was really meant to be!
0 likesNow where’s human starlight
0 likesdon’t consider the possibilities, they also have actors, they have their own ideas, or register does have! there human sunset is seen! you’re like saying that you want to animators do for your will the cartoon!
0 likesHuman sunset be like:man im ded
1 likeI was wondering the same thing before I saw this vid!
0 likesWait yes she dose when I used to watch this she had that wee seen her in a movie.
0 likesThat was in my mind where is the human sunset Shimmer
0 likesI think that's actually the human version I think that's actually And she let the other pony go and she did it and actually that's how the human version's like and she knows how My Little Pony road in the world works but she doesn't but she stands up for a ponyville she stands she doesn't know how to walk like ponies so I think that's the real one
0 likesBro the mlp subject to the art on is over gotta keep up with the trends
0 likes😍🥰😊👍🏻✨
0 likesTheory idea: Is principal chinch Chrysalis
1 likeHow do you have a picture of her
0 likesBut like what if its the other way around like what if we are looking for her human form when we should be looking for her pony form-
0 likesWhat if the pony sunset was the equestrian sunset? Buyt she went through the portal?
0 likesUmm ok so let’s think this through if their is a replica of each pony how is there only one sunset . There is one sunset in the human world but not in exestria but if in exestria not in the human world. Is she even from exestria.
0 likesI wish I can see human sun set video
0 likesWhat if sunset didnt exist in our world but was from the human world but fell in the portal as a kid and grew up as a pony?
0 likesI think the human sunset shimmer doesn’t exist cause she was the first pony to go to the humans. Well after the sirens but they are not pony’s
0 likesI don't know what happened to human Sunset Shimmer but the pony who is telling the story about what happened in Equestria world the pony is right because he said why Sunset Shimmer killed the human Sunset Shimmer
0 likesWhat if the other shimmer teleported to another world and sunset from this world did the same
0 likesThe real question is is the human starlight a cult learder
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"Daniel get the Koolaid"
0 likes@Themistot ight then
0 likesMr. Sawtooth Waves
0 likesI have a question happen the equestria magic will Fadaway because the mane 7(the RainBlomms)'s magic didn't pony up the the equestria magic is fading away and don't worry the mane 7(equestria girls)and there Friends and with new friends/characters will save the day
She should be in Crystal prep
0 likesI think she wasn't born at all. And the reason why do I think so is that flash sentry has fell in love with Twilight from equestria but not with her human form and we saw them continue in relationship in equestria. So Flash from human world picked sunset and if you think about it the next generation will be different in the worlds so I think this is what happened with human sunset.
0 likesI think human sunset is out of the town maybe she's far away?
0 likesI love your vids SO SO much
0 likesMaybe- the human sunset is at the pony world since pony sunset was in the human world and the human sunset found a way to the pony world plus theres more portals to sorry for my grammar
1 likeMaybe the pony sunset threatened human sunset to leave
0 likesHuman sunset probably was mad at the principal or just a banded her studies and went to eqaustrya just the opposite of the pony sunset
1 likeI know why we didn't see human sunset u know the friendship games where principal snitch isn't in the my little pony world I think not every character is in both worlds
0 likesThere hair don't look the same and their skin either .The left sunset has little dark long hair and her skin is light yellow the right sunset have short hair and dark skin and their were different clothes and the left sunset is tall the right sunset is short
0 likesmy theory is sunset live in the house of her human version.And now they live like sisters l am brazilian so l dont speak so good l am sorry
0 likesI think sunset pushed the human sunset into the portal
0 likesIf there weren't a real human sunset shimmer, how about the other ponies in the real human world?
0 likesi think human sunset is in a other city
0 likesWait doesn't Twighlight not have a human
1 likeI solfed your problem becus sunset is my favorite !🤩 just from equistria girls
0 likesthe cutie mark maybe the clue lol
0 likes👌👌👌🌟🌟
0 likesWhat if the story is backwards,like the original sunset is from the human world and her back story from there was lost to history? It does leave a question but only 1! Where is the PONY sunset not human but PONY!!!!!?????
0 likesWhat if the human sunset went to Equestria hiding
0 likesHuman sunset could anywhere, where even is canterlot city anyway
0 likesWell that is true I don’t know if there is a human sunset shimmer but I would love to see an episode with a human sunset shimmer but I think my little pony would make it because mlp already ended soo idk?
0 likesDid you ever know that the human sunset and pony sunset swap world
0 likesMe: oh obviously she's dead
0 likesthe human sunset lives in another country
0 likesI think there is two sunsets but the other sunset we can’t see
0 likesWhy does Cayden’s hair stand down with all the other princesses and for twilight in the future have foee
0 likesEG is taking note for next episode
0 likesI think, that Sunset Shimmer in human's would is Starlight in pony's world
0 likesYes I do think there’s a human Sunset shimmer
0 likesMaybe Murmansk sunset moved to a different area in the human world
0 likesIf you see unleash the magic song in that she says I have one or two student like you but one have been disappear could it be other sunset shimmer
0 likesWhy would SunSet want to kill Human sunset?
1 likeWhat if she is the connection?
0 likesWhat if the Counter part for sunset shimmer died as a young child or at birth?
0 likesMy question is where is human starlight
0 likesI think the human Sunset is in Equestria
0 likesBRO I ALWAYS WONDERED THIS BEYEYDB IMA GO CRY💀💀
1 likeMaybe she’s a social influencer like vinnette Velencia
0 likesOne thing i wonder is how did sunset get her cutie mark ? And why did she go through the mirror How did she know what was behind it ?
0 likesI think if there is a human sunset shimmer then she must be like human world twilight which was in the Equestria GAmes
0 likesWhat about Starlight? Why is there no Human Starlight?
0 likesI- I said that Sunset killed human sunset as a joke, please.
1 likeHuman sunny could be human starlight cousin and they could have been bfs with twi and got mind erased
0 likesIf the singer 👩🎤 theory is true I think she wouldn’t not be famous but she’s has a different name remember the Ra ra episode maybe 🤔sunset is the new Countess colour a torra.
0 likesThere are most humans that aren't seen as ponies so maybe for some ponies they aren't seen as human
0 likesThis might actually be a multiverse because in some multiverse you may not exist
0 likesMaybe a wannabe “influencer” trying to get free stuff from small businesses.
0 likesGood question i have this in my mind
0 likes:) bootiful
0 likesI think that human sunset is in the equestria
0 likesWhen she went portal with twilight and spike can’t be 2 humans the same like ponies can’t be the same. Even in real life there only one of you but I never believed that. Since twilight and spike went back to home after like a day or week so new twilight was able to be born or move there or even both. Since sunset had not got back home a lot yet. Could be one of these I name. Or could be spell that one ponies set because twilight was miss friends so she pick to make a copy of herself in human world.
0 likesI love this theory imma subscribe
0 likesThat’s also my question!🥲🤣
0 likesMaybe human sunset is in prison/juvenile prison. She was bad at one point.
0 likesYes there is an other Sunset simmer
0 likesAs maby the Sunset simmer is a look of twilight sparkle ✨ 😍 maby she is in an other school 🏫 maby the school 🏫 😀 is called sinetist students 😀 it is making sense 😀 😄 😉 👍 maby the other Sunset 🌇 simmer has strat hair and a smart 😀 😄 😉 mind 😀 like twilight sparkle maby she is the human twilight sparkle's sister 😧 it all makes sense 😀 😄 😉 😊 . And by the way your videos are very good I love ❤ 😍 💖 ❣ 💕 💘 the videos you make
Why is she staying in the human world in the first place?
1 likePerhaps she did die early on but Sunset didn’t kill her. She could of died before Sunset even came to that world. Like from an illness, accident, someone else killed her. Or maybe she died during childbirth.
0 likesShe is in the mean school with twilight hehehe ☺️
0 likesno I do not think there is a human counter-part sunset shimmer.
0 likesWill the writers said that not all ponies have human counterparts and sunset is one of those ponies
0 likesWait hold up if there is another sunset shimmer i have a conclusion you know how that twilight sparkle got rolled into celestia school because rainbow dash did a sonic rainboom that shocked twilight sparkle same with sunset shimmer that got her cutie mark but she shocked her to much and probably made her fail she begged and begged but she had too do the all the things and thats what is happening to human sunset shimmer she have been trying and trying but when pony sunset just gave up she seeked up revenge but she realizes that she doesn’t need knowledge she wants power but the other half of her wants to keep trying so they spilted on half the human sunset choosed the knowledge by the other sunset choosed power thats why we never seen the real human sunset cause she is stuck in the other school learning the pony sunset went into the portal and realized that theres a human sunset so she lied about being her and acted like she past the test thats why we see her in the school she evened showed a fake phone sep we always seen the pony sunset we nevered seen the human one and sep she got what she wanted then apologized and said sorry and learned friendship then forgot what she dicided and acted like the pony sunset and the human sunset and thats what haved left behided forever
0 likesBut the pony Twilight was in the human world the Human Twilight was alive
0 likesProbably star swirl studies astrology
0 likesI think that Sunset shimmer killed her alter-ego
1 likeI think it's like the flash that somepoeple that are very differences to their pony lives
0 likesI think sunset does not have a real her because she goes in to each world so much
0 likesthat's him as a pony?
0 likesIsn't the show over? So we won't be getting these answers anyway
0 likesGreat theory videos 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀(Tae-Marie 8yrs old)
0 likesWhat is SHE is the human one, which is why, quote-ish that it says she one the primsess thing in equestria girls, if i remeber right, more than once, so maybe she visited the pony world, and unalived the pony version of herself???
0 likesA forever mistery
0 likesThere is a real human sunset
0 likesThink she has a counterpart because of her cutie mark
0 likesI think the other human sunset will be in other city
0 likesI think she killed it or something because of you look in the first photo she looks nice as if she was kind an popular but maybe pony sunset took advantage of that and killed her after she was how popular she is and abused her popularity that's just my theory
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How else would she not know about the friendship games even though she went there a while back
0 likesi have a question in a Equestria girls sunset shimmer doesn't have a human by herself because she wants to live in the human world so then sunset shimmer did not met her human thing in Equestria girls so that is why
0 likesor she was in a human world and got to Equestria?
What if human sunset went to pony world
0 likesWhat if human sunsets just in jail lol
1 likeI’m so interested
0 likesno killing in my little pony or especially the other place
1 likeBut what if original human sunset went to the pony word for more is a parallel
0 likesHuman Sunset is dead. The white horse statue was built in her honor.
0 likesPony sunset took human sunset s identity and human sunset killed pony sunset but revived her in the afterlife...
0 likesI paused on the beginning because I have a suggestion Sunset Shimmer from the Pony world had to go to the human world do you think the human world is Sunset Shimmer went to Equestria
0 likesYourself me smile different styles summer surprised twilight
0 likesEveryone in the
I am sure that there isnt an other sunset at ALL
0 likesThey may have connections memory that one of them die and continue to duty??
0 likesI guess if starlight attend hive high so I guess human sun set also attend hive high
0 likes🌅🌄☀🌞
0 likesI dont think sunset would kill the other suset
0 likesHuman World sunset shimmer equestria girls season 3 2022 ☺️
0 likesI'm still asking this question
0 likesi think there is a human sunset but shes still in canterlot
0 likesI think there is no human sunset because the pony sunset's did not have a place in the poney world so her destiny was to go to the human world.
0 likesThat's dark if the pony sunset killed the normal, WOW WAYY TO DARK SIR WAAY TO DARK
0 likesMaybe there is an actual human Sunset Shimmer think of it like Sunset Shimmer Equestria and then the human world maybe there's a different dimension like something else in another one
0 likesthe human sunset was murdered.
0 likesMaybe she is the human 1 and she locked away the pony 1 and forgot abt her
0 likesI was so confused at the same thing
0 likesHey sawtooth waves i have a question for u if there's a starlight glimmer in Equestria then where's the human starlight glimmer?!?
0 likesI believe sunset lives in another country
0 likesShe loved the crown crown why does she love the crown this is another story or something
0 likesi also tought if there's another sunset shimmer tho
0 likesWhat if human sunset Was in hive high to like starlight glimmer
1 likeAnd if Sunset did kill the OG human wouldn't she die too like Piccolo and Kami ?
0 likesI think human & pony sunset takes turn to different world
0 likesHuman Sunset got terminated.
0 likesits just.. their designs changed?
0 likesMaybe Hasbros just didn't make a human one
0 likesHave you seen the hair?
1 likeYou can tell by the hair that the human sunset is a fake
1 likeIs Charlie does have a twin in the real world how the knee in the police and said come to that world they were legends Patil I cannot figure out what kind of region it will be like
0 likesI think that there is a human sunset but sunset made a deal with the regular human, sunset to swop around every day but one day human sunset fond a portal that she thought it was to the pony world but some one walked in the same time she was trying to get out and she's stuck between the universe's
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Boom how do you theory with that?
0 likes1:30 that is really dark!…
0 likesYour so right magic is not everthing
0 likesIt's night And you're creeping me out Why What she Kill Her Human counterpart
1 likeWhat about the pillars what do you think they made a splash in and than 🪦😵
0 likesMy theory is that human sunset died of natural causes or a deseise
0 likesMaybe they haven't met the human world sunset
0 likesThat sunset shimmer with Glass it's not me!
0 likesWhat would rainbow dash’s fathers name be in the human world… that’s a question for you
0 likesOh and also Starlight Glimmer she doesn't have another her 😅
0 likesI never think about that but now this is realy werd
1 likeI think there is a human sunset shimmer but she lives in an other place
0 likesSunset shimmer likes art maybe she is planning to be an artist
1 likeOr she ran away like the pony sunset
0 likes🥰🥰🥰🥰🙏
1 likewhy do you speak of the humans alter ego of the Mane six as the originals?
0 likesProblem solfed now ?
0 likesYeah where other sunset? I watch the every video
0 likesHuman sensor went to the pony world
0 likesI think there is a human sunset
0 likesKnow need the human sunset
0 likesThere is a human sunshine shimmer
0 likesTitle: exist
0 likesMe: confused
Also me 5 sec later: oh......
I think that the human world. Sunset is in equestria
0 likesI think when she was evil she killed her
0 likesI believe she killed her tho
0 likesi thnk shes in eqestria!!
0 likesI RLY WANNA BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE
0 likesLike she disolved inyo space
0 likesWhat if she went through the potal
0 likesI think she is shared by both worlds
0 likes🌅🌅🌅🌅🌅
0 likesMaybe the other sunset is in another school
0 likesSunset shimmer was a demon 😈 in first movie
0 likesI've been thinking about this
1 likeOK I guess can you make a video about something that sunset likes I mean I mean she likes like so she knows we know the real sunset in our time I mean in there in their pony in the other pole and then my little pony world they all of the portal
0 likesI wanna Know Where the Other Discord is
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i have a few videos about it from September and october 2021
0 likesMaybe she's in jail
1 likeMaybe there no human sunset and the pony sunset have sent to the human world to make balance between these two worlds as her cutie marks are shown
0 likesAdagio was the first contact btwn human and pony World
0 likesLike starlight glimmer she doesn't have human version too
0 likesBecause she never met the Mane six
0 likesThere is a sunset human but.... is there a pony sunset
0 likesmy little pony a new genration is here
0 likesWhat if she did kill the original sunsets
0 likesIf pony sunset go to equestria the human sunset comes to human world
0 likesMaybe
Maybe sunset pony and sunset human swapped
1 likelol maybe Human Sunset went to Equestria and liked it better.
0 likesOr she lives in a different country
1 likeIt is very funny that there is a apple fall to starsworld head
0 likesMaybe starlight is sunset
0 likesHi I really love your videos I was wondering of you cud eksplane what happened to Applejaks parents, Idk about you but that has be bugging me alot
0 likesMaybe she is in a different country 🤔🤔
0 likesI Always wandering were is human sunset?
0 likesShe did not show up in any of the movies or specials
0 likesWhat if sunsets human version committed suicide, or died already.
0 likesThis would have been A Better Special then Holidays Unwrapped Wild Brain formley know as DHX should have Stand up for themselves against Hasbro and cancelled that Horrible Bad Crappy Hoilday Special with only 6 shorts including the finale Terrible Horrible Bad Cruel Ending of the 6th Horrible Terrible Bad Cruel Finale short O Come, All Ye Squashful and make A True Proper Finale with a Better Proper Ending.
0 likesWhere is the other world sunset shimmer 🤔
0 likesSilly if there is a human sunset she came in the crystal prep after human twilight left and came to Canterlot high school
0 likesOk...Uh...would Sunset Shimmer really kill herself??? (I mean her human self)
0 likesi didn’t even think of this….
1 likewhat if human sunset killed pony sunset
0 likesHuman starset Is in the pony wold
0 likesdouble the sunset
0 likesYeah human sunset is dead edit: will u do a theory on the new genaration?
0 likesLook at sunset service hair Sylvester remind me sunsets mum sunset Celestia princess of the sun it does my b
1 likeI'm confused which one is sunset shimmer
0 likesMolly Keelean
0 likesThe. Other. Sunset. Shimmer
Guys personally I didn't like the equestria girls at all
0 likesSince she is a character in a Hasbro franchise that does mean that rules pertaining to other components of the Hasbro Multiverse apply. That being said it is entirely possible that she is a multiversal singularity, a being who has no alternate self. This is usually reserved for the realms of deities but if Sunset had a divine purpose laid out for her from the start it is possible that she was created as a singular entity to serve a purpose, linking those two worlds as you suggest. The expanded possibility is that Sunset is meant to unite more worlds, perhaps in preparation for a multiversal threat (unlikely but watching multiple generations of Hasbro IPs meet up with themselves to form a super team against a reality killer/conqueror appeals to me).
1 likeWhat if the human sunset went to the pony world just like pony sunset went to the human world?
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I was thinking the same thing
0 likesI think she is just not in the place where the equistria portal is she maybe in astrialia or japan no one knows where she could be but I had the same quistion like you to.
0 likesShe did
0 likesI think she doesn't exist bc it is possible human twilight and human sunset were friends like in the pony world but wait scratch that pony sunset only knew human twilight until the friendship games but wait sunset knew the pony twilight so I have proof now that she may not exist there are loads excuse to stop this is that human twilight and human sunset were friends well wouldn't human twilight tell her friends after the friendship games so it wouldn't make any sense for human sunset to be alive or maybe human twilight forgot human sunset idk but someone has to figure it out.
0 likesAlso never gonna give you up.
0 likesI think Sunset has killed her and use her body to Use her body and ye
1 likeThere is a human sunset
0 likesThere might the pony’s and human is going to be there there is two sunsets and two twilights the episode of sunset and another sunset is not yet there yet.
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0 likesSunset kill the twins 🗿
0 likesi think because of his cutie mark half pony world and half human world
0 likesIf you search on Google human sunset died by a car accident
1 likeShe probably killed har
0 likesI have an ide on your Dering do theory. Okey so let's say that it was just rainbodash that dreamed that she met the dering do. And the reason she lockt like that in rainbows dream was becaus she saw the cower of the book. And the reason the produser would have made the carakter like thet was becaus they now that rainbow dash was a big pony wif a big fandom of ponys that loke upp to her and her herowdods, then they culd now that that wuld be a smart choice to make Dering do locke like someone that already had shown a good influens. Way would they test difrant designs if they already now wan that clearly was working to at marketing itself with beaing al that stuff that ther cerakter was supose to be. In short therm i think that the producer/designer of the kuvreds inspired bay rainbow dash sense she was a great symbol that easy could have drawn a tension to the book so people wuld fink it lockt cool and buy it.
0 likesIt was hard to exsplan way they wuld shues to madel the carekter after rainbo dash but i hope you get the point.
Fink it like way soooo many carakters in difrent films a spersely animations locke alike. Howe many tims haven't we seen a pink dress girl wiff long hear in a weird collar, way to many. But still ther being produst, because its a carakter model that wurks in marketing.
Thats way i think they look the alike.
(Sorry for bad spealing).
Yea we never see the human sunset shimmer
0 likesWell sawtooth sunset shimmer is a good guy now when the she helps the rainbooms befeat the dazzlings and and the rainbooms treat sunset as their freinds😉😉😉
0 likesI have theory what if human sunset killed herself that why we havet see her yet
1 likeand where is starlight
0 likesHolaaaaaaaaaa
0 likesAlguien que hable español aquíiiiiiii?
Maybe there is only one sunset
0 likesI don't know where she is or what she's doing 😅😅
0 likesMaybe they’re is an evil Sunset Shimmer. 😈😈😈🌅🌅🌅
0 likesHmmmm why not ask, where is pony sunset??? 🤔.
0 likesWow super duper cool
0 likesKawaii
0 likesMi sirena quiero mi sillas sin costo de pony
0 likesI think she’d be an adult as she is oder than twillight but for some reason she’s a teen in high schoooo
0 likesMe gussing what's Fluttershy perants??
0 likesMaybe sweet kind and a little bit of spice and also try to be a good person
1 likeDude w t h- why just why would you think that she got murdered ;-;
0 likesAh c,mon without the friendship she wont be nice she is not nice as a pony but what when in human she is nice ?
0 likesWhat if sunset shimmer killed the human sunset simmer
0 likesi searched it up and it siad she killed them-
0 likeswell there no human sunset shimmer because she only one know other dimension she have synbol like yinyang it means she orignaly shimmer sunset no human
0 likesThis is a cartoon show...
1 likeIdk ask Lauren Faust
No No No No sorry Im very sorry but no... I get where you come from with this idea, but the ability to sing great is not enough of a driving character trait in this or any MLP world, because EVERYONE SINGS AWESOMELY! No no you have to go deaper, for instance rainbow Dash, Pegasus dash is prideful about ehr flying skills, he rhuman form is a ace athlete. Flying and sports both are similiar enough. No I would think in a world without magic, Sunsets ambition would drive ehr to be something like school president, I could also see her as Cheerleader captain, the hot girl everyone wnats, she love sthe admiration, the influence, she is smart and cunning, she would use both to manipulate and literally control the school with her smarts, influence and good looks. In many school based series and movies its that the jocks and otehr popular students literally have all the power, a jock bullies some nerd, the teacher slook the other way because they need him for the next big game. So I see Sunset as a popular student that raises the the schools reputation by being one of the best and using and abusing all of her influence.
0 likesI don’t think Sunset Shimmer killed her human self because that would be the evil Sunset Shimmer
2 likesMay be she is not in their universe
0 likesAre you going to have a reaction to the new mlp
0 likesI also thought that we’re is human sunset
0 likesI don't think there is other sunset
0 likesYeah yall need to relieze mlp isn't dark.....
0 likesTwo Sunset Shimmers
0 likesThere are two sunset
0 likesHmm..... Can you do a theory of celestia and luna's past life..... And luna's life in the moon..... And what if night mare moon still there?
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0 likesНо Искорка была же в кристальный академии может быть Сансет вообще в другой стране😅
0 likesWait....... NO WAY HOW
0 likesI mean there is going to be two sunsets
0 likesa netflix on series
0 likesI love Sunset Shimmer she is the best
0 likesOh someone’s not there? She’s obviously dead.
0 likesIs she in pony vill and hiding or is she died?!?!
0 likesAre you going to do a fase revival
0 likesShe's in jail
0 likesThis is kinda like starlight because starlight also does not have I human starlight
0 likesI was gonna ask you about this
0 likesWow
0 likesI know this is immposible theoiry but hey... It's kinda too dark, what if Sunset Shimmer human world she doesn't exsist like maybe she's dead? ;-; so Sunset Shimmer pony from only who's alive and she can visit anytime to pony world or human world without caught?
0 likescome make with problem and the rainbow kingdom
0 likesWod be easyier to give up! 🤬
0 likesHuman Sunset shimmer is pony Sunset shimmer
0 likessi estuviere en español :(
0 likesI commented on a video and he’s doing the theory yeah
0 likesWhat abt human starlight glimmer
0 likesHuman sunset got murdered by pony sunset
0 likessunset killed sunset
2 likesWHAT IF THEY EXCHANGED WORLDS? idrk
0 likesIf U Look At Friendship Games And Legend Of Everfree Sunests Red Stripes Turned Orange In Those Movies
0 likesDoes PewDiePie have a twin
0 likesalso starlight..
0 likesMaybe shes only go in to portal world everyone are same in world school and the princess world i dont know?
0 likesMaby she killed her ಥ_ಥ
0 likeshuman sunset is dead i think
0 likesI think that was started the e-q war
0 likesI think human au Sunset may of commited suicide.....
0 likesLittle saw toot
0 likesWhat if you now how that half chicken half snake turned sawtooth to stone what if in that time human sunset died in that time
0 likesSunset on the horizon .is the end of eg.i se sunset on the horizon and in the story is human sunset
0 likesWhaaaaaaat!😱😱😱
0 likesI think the Other is in jail
0 likeswhy? is there a pard 🟦🟪💟 sorry i din't find the pink one tho
0 likesShe died 🪦
0 likesi think the og human sunset commit crime and is in jail
0 likesThe human sunset died from cringe
0 likesI have Question Why Pinky Pei Know what Happened in Human World in Episode One In tha Pony Twilligt Adventure in human word?
0 likesI was thinking about it
1 likeIn her home
0 likesYah I really think about that
0 likesLove Love RAM para
0 likesAnd maybe he cant go to both becas are help everybody and everybody not know who sunset are?
0 likesAre you a pony
2 likesWhat if the human sunset shimmer is locked up by pony sunset shimmer
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If thsts true wouldn't she gotten her out after the first EQG ?
0 likesBruh a second ago I was watching Naruto Shinobi world war now how am I watching a video about my little pony
0 likesThat's my question
0 likesYo tenia la misma pregunta porque tiene sentido verdar ???
0 likesIt plot armor
1 likeThere isn't another Equestria Sunset Shimmer because the cool thing about Sunset Shimmer is the isn't another her in Equestria
0 likesCould of died to netural stuff
0 likeses sunset.exe
0 likesYou too Sus to say that
0 likesSo the sunset is.. Not 1? Is so possible..
0 likesin prison or dead
0 likesSparkle sing sparkle Bishop games
0 likesThair is no human sunset 🌄🌄
0 likesit's so weird
0 likesIs there one?
0 likesoh hey let's sing! letters ok bartleby ok yeti im a apple a apple a a a a a a a a a a a a b bartleby b bartleby ba ba ba ba ba na na na na na na na na c caccu c caccu ca ca ca d dilly dally d dilly di di di na na na na na na na na e elongy e elongy e e e f feather f feather fa fa fa fa na na na na na na na na na na na na na h hego h hego he he he he j juice j juice ju ju ju ju ju na na na na na na na na na na na na na k kakaraka k kakaraka ka ka ka l lemon l lemon la la la la la na na na na na m mumu m mumu mu mu n ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni na na na na na na na na na na o ocan o ocan oh oh oh oh oh p parki p parki pa pa pa pa pa pa pa pa na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na q queen sun q queen sun quee quee s sizer s sizer sa sa na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na t true t true true true u unco u unco un un v volet v volet va va va va na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na w woglo w woglo wog wog x xixx x xixx xa xa xa xa na na na na na na na na y yeti y yeti yet yet yet z zee z zee zee zee zee na na na na na zee zee zee
0 likesIt’s sunset shimmer and shimmer sunset
0 likesSunset has a human verssion but no the first thing i know you guys think she has a human verssion becus of her hair color but no you in equistria girls the veowing in it color is difrent
0 likesooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesMaybe human sunset died cuz she's sick
0 likesBecause there's do school the twilight come from maybe she's the school twilight come from rstu 2 school the twilight come from that mean there's a sunset shimmer another school
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0 likesTiene razón lo que dice
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0 likesSunset simer is a little pasesive
0 likesкак я отвечу на вопрос если я не поняла ниче? можно на русском
0 likesThe captions don't make sense can u fix that? The captions mention drinks and salmon?! Why!?
0 likesOne thing that’s always bothered me about Sunset is just how old is she? Because she’s an adult when Celestia banished her to the human world and it’s implied at least in the movie that she was Celestia’s star pupil before Celestia started training Twilight, so that would make her basically a young adult when Twilight was a young child. Maybe I misinterpreted that but it could be the humans age more slowly than ponies, which would make sense as humans IRL age more slowly than horses. It also would make sense with the way the ponies measure time, they measure it by moons (months) while humans measure their time in years.
0 likesBut anyway if so it’s possible we haven’t seen human Sunset because she’s actually a lot older than Pony Sunset, old enough that she’d be the age of the other teachers and outside the teenage girl’s social circle. Given her thirst for power I’d guess she’s a politician or an aspiring one.
Well, we do know that our Sunset was ambitious enough to go to another world entirely in order to succeed at what she wanted. And through her actions, magic came to the human world. Maybe human Sunset, after spending so much time wallowing in her own shortcomings, discovered some of that magic and now may be using in a similar manner. Who knows? Maybe she even found/created her own portal that gave her access to Equestria. Of course, that would then mean the two Sunsets ended up switching places.
0 likesBut if human Sunset is now in Equestria, there's no telling where she might be.
The official storywriter once said that pony Sunset felt like the balance in the human world is not good when the human Sunset is present (But when both Twilights meet, there wasn't some sort of space time warp issue), so it's best for pony Sunset to go home back in Equestria, wishing her Humane 6 goodbye and so on. A very sad and painful ending, pony Sunset kind of loving her human world where she resides.
0 likesI believe that magic, when in the human world, becomes science. In Equestria Girls (the first movie), Celestia says Sunset Shimmer was her pupil, but when she did not get what she desired, she left with pride. Celestia teaches magic, which becomes science in the human world. Sunset maybe could have wanted more practicals and chemical reactions instead of writing long equations. She could have ran off, seeing as that she did not get what she wanted, she must have felt Celestia was controlling her possibilities and freedom, so she gains it in a way by forcing people to bow before her, leading to her being the school's most hated bully. Then she finds friendship as a new way of freedom and possibilities.
0 likesAs Celestia's School of Magic was in Canterlot, Sunset must have run off to another place that wasn't Ponyville, but I think most likely, a faraway place, then when she somehow saw or heard, the Crystal Empire when it returned, as Celestia says she did her studies not long before Twilight.
It is a place full of magic and possibilities, just what she wanted. She must have wanted to try anything, not letting anything or anyone get in her way or stop her. This must have led to her being a bully and Celestia must have found out. Then her curiosity must have gotten the better of her. She must have found the most powerful thing she had ever seen: the portal. She stepped through it and became a human, confused. She finds new people, people that had not known her and people she could now easily bully.
All of this must have happened between S3: E2 "The Crystal Empire: Part 2" and the release of "Equestria Girls". The release dates of the episodes are from November 10, 2012 to August 10, 2013, taking 9 months, at least.
This timeline brings me to Twilight. In the human world, Canterlot High takes the form of Ponyville, implying that Crystal Prep takes the form of Canterlot. This makes sense because in the places, you see people that match that place. Twilight should have started going to school at Crystal Prep with Celestia as her teacher or principal, as Crystal Prep, I say, is the human world version of Celestia's School of Magic. Crystal Prep should have been a very prestigious primary school, as in the pony world, it holds fillies. When Celestia realises that Twilight has learnt all possible in that school, she tries to think of another primary school that could push her limits in another field. She strongly recommends Twilight to go to Canterlot (The human world version of Ponyville) to Canterlot High when she becomes a secondary school student after her summer break for a temporary time.
There Twilight makes some friends who she thinks are the strangest, but when Luna returns from another country, she states she desperately wants to be the principal and to be a queen alongside Celestia (in the human world, Celestia is also a queen) and she says no (again). Luna declares war, but just before the big fight, Twilight explains the magic of friendship to Luna, and she is convinced. Luna and Celestia then rule the country together and hopes that Twilight (her personal protegee) learns more about friendship.
Twilight wins a great award (maybe the Nobel Peace Prize) but when she learns her time is up, she doesn't want to leave, then she speaks to the school principal (Cheerilee) to make Twilight a permanent student and Twilight promises to report her findings on friendship every week.
When Twilight finds a very long 5 page report about friendship by Star Swirl that Celestia sent her, she reads it and finds that Star Swirl left it on a cliffhanger and must have abandoned it. She is confused and cannot answer it herself, she leaves it and during a touching moment when Twilight helps the whole town learn about friendship and starts a small charity, the answer comes to her. She finishes the report with an extra 3 pages and it is sent to Celestia. Celestia receives Twilight for her to become Dame Twilight Sparkle.
Then later, Sunset Shimmer enters the human world and brings magic. She causes a magical imbalance by bringing the crown and then pony Twilight enters the portal and sees human Twilight. They band together with their friends and defeat Sunset Shimmer. They teach her about friendship. Human Twilight stays while pony Twilight leaves with her crown.
Along with the sirens and Gaia Everfree, the Mane 7 defeat the rest of the future villains, with the last one using animals, the country population and the pony versions of the Mane 6.
Discord is a man who grows jealous of Celestia and Twilight and tries to cause chaos but is unsuccessful. Queen Chrysalis is the queen firefly who swarm the world population and cause a spreading virus but an affordable vaccine was developed.
This is my theory.
I have a theory: remember how you explored the alicorn amulet and thought it was Sombra's? Well remember the book which Spike founded in the castle of the 2 sisters in season 4? Well, I think the book belonged to Chrysalis because for a start when I look at the cover of the book the first villian I think about is Chrysalis. Second, when you read the spell in the book It's corrupting you which already gives points for the owner being a villian and third: the power it self. It changes everything you wish for your desire and even though It's a little far fetched you need to admit that it kinda connects to how the CHANGElings CHANGE for what they desire.
2 likesI definitely want to see that and if there’s a chance Equestria Girls will Return!
1 likeI just had a wild thought, what if when she was a child Sunset Shimmer found a portal and came to Equestria. This would explain why she became obsessed with the Mirror Portal, subconsciously she remembers it, or its energy. It would also explain why she stayed in the Human world she was Human, to begin with. It would also explain why we haven't seen Sunset's parents. (Possibilities of her being Sunburst's sister aside). Of course, that also adds the question of where is the true Sunset Shimmer of Equestria. ... wait what if she is Sunburst there is no reason that she couldn't be a gender-swapped version of him that would explain the similarities between the two.
1 likeSolid theory. Can easily explain why Sunset is missing from the series.
0 likesMy original thought on the matter had been that the pony Sunset somehow 'overwrote' her human counterpart. HOWEVER, the synapsis from that unused EqG story, along from a single frame from her IDW prequel comic gave me another idea. It's far-fetched and it sounds like a bad fanfic idea, but bear with me.
In the comic, after Celestia brought Sunset to look at the portal mirror, for a brief moment, in a single panel, Sunset saw a reflection that more closely resembled her human counterpart. If we combine that with the facts that Starswirl used the human world as a dumping ground for magical artifacts, the fact that humans are similar in personality and characteristics to their pony counterparts AND the the idea that all that magical mishap is following the main cast...
As Sawtooth said, the human Sunset would be ambitious. Now imagine this ambitious teenager that feels like she's better than everyone else. She wants to be feel powerful, to be in control... whatever. And, with such a mindset, she discovers something, be it a book, a journal or an artifact or anything like that that points her to the fact that there is a portal to a magical world conveniently located in front of this one high school. In her ambition, she might use the knowledge she's gathered to try to utilize said portal and even succeed.
But, sadly, only partially.
Instead of ending up in the other world, she ended up stuck between dimensions - that being what pony Sunset saw in that one frame in the mirror.
Pony Sunset, on the other hand, being experienced with using magic, was able to utilize the portal and come out the other end unharmed. So now we have one Sunset in one universe and another in-between. In the large scale of things, that didn't cause a break in balance.
But then enter Twilight. By provoking Twilight Sparkle, Sunset invited a lot of magic from the pony world into the human world. Balance slowly began to break and magic began to leak into a world that lacked it, especially after what Sci-Twi did. And, since Sunset exists in one world and not the other, all that foreign energy in that dimension is attracted to her, because plot reasons.
And the only way to restore balance would be for both Sunsets to go back to their own realities.
Either that, or I am waaaaay up my own ass about this xP
Well Sunset also have interest in science as we've seen in friendship games when it was Sunset against Twilight at the end of acadeca song. And since we know Sunset is stubborn and used to be selfish, and since she's smart maybe she is like human Twilight but without friends in some science university or something because no one shoved her how to have friends (and spend time with them) she became more focused on studies, I mean she was Celestia's student once
0 likes(“Here I go”) as a pony she studied under celestia, as did twilight. The mane six knew cele in the human world so why not sunset? She might’ve transferred schools because she wanted to achieve something higher. In the pony version twilight had to meet them because of what sunset did! Starting the friendship early then excepted. Sunset replaced twilight in the human version introducing sunset, breaking the friendship up between the mane 5 unlike in the PV! They wouldn’t originally know her! Sunset form HW would just be at a different school since they are teens. (Done & Done)
0 likesWithout knowing our sunset’s history, like the direct events leading her to the puman world or how she got her cutie mark we can’t speculate on the missing sunset.
0 likesi’ve always thought that the human sunset shimmer lived in a different timeline, like 20 years ago or even 100 years ago but that doesn’t make sense because ponies and their counterpart are the same age
1 likeOddly enough it's not just Human Sunset Shimmer we've not run into, there is another variable that was added into it. Starlight Glimmer. Would Starlight Glimmer fall under the same concept as Sunset Shimmer?
0 likesI heard some speculate that Sunset is actually from the human world or as I refer to it 21-C Equestria. (You know, because it's in the twenty-first century?) She must've discovered a portal to Equestria since it's been confirmed in Spring Breakdown that there is more than one portal. She suffered some sort of traumatic event in her time as an infant and when Princess Celestia stumbled upon her, she erased her memory of it all. That could by why there's no mention of the human Sunset since Sunset might actually originate from there to begin with.
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2 likeseveryone always asks “where is human sunset?” but never “how is human sunset?” :’(
Actually your theory about sunset connecting the both worlds and being only one is really convincing
0 likesI believe that there IS a human Sunset, but meeting her would be the end of the human world series once and for all. For the elements of Harmony to exist, a balance of characters would have to exist as well which means that every pony has a human counterpart which means Sunset human is out there somewhere. She is likely a failed singer and an unhappy and unfulfilled student of some great and high up scholar and is just waiting for her time to strike and that could possibly lead her to meeting her Pony-Human counterpart and her friends and be the transition Sunset OG needs to smoothly move back to Equestria without unleashing chaos on the balance of the world and the overall story. Each Mane 6 NEEDS their Sunset and since human Sunset hasn’t shown herself yet it is Sunset OG’s duty to stay with the human mane 6 and wait for her counterpart to meet them and make the transition back to her real home in Equestria. That’s my 8 year long theory that I’m sticking with.
0 likesI would assume that once sunset found out about doubles, so she would try to look herself up and see a failed musician etc.
1 likeWell, in the Movies so far, we only heard of 2 Schools: Crystal Prepp and Canterlot High.
0 likesBut it would be dump to think, that there aren't more Schools or High schools in that world.
Best and easiest explanation would be, that she learns on a School, that was never shown in the Movies because it is in another different part of the City, she lives in a different part of the State or even World.
She could be in Manehattan, Phillidelphia, she even could be on some kind of Archeological Excavation Site or be an exchange Student for that Time somewhere else in the world.
Damn, she even could be on an Academy of that Human Worlds NASA or Studies to becomes the Next President of... however that Human Country Name is. xD
I mean, what is more ambitious than become President of a Land?
(Yes, World Domination, but I don't think she would be THAT ambitious... without magic I mean. xD )
This just a thought, but what if the human version of sunset lived somewhere else and died, like got in an accident, got deathly sick, or even commit suicide, because as you just said she'd probably had a lot of pride and the drive to tried to control something really dangerous and got herself, or she failed and drove herself insane with so much hate and jealousy for others successful feats that she drove herself to her grave.
0 likesInterestingly Dr.wolf mentioned that there was going to be a story that explains what has become of the Sunset Shimmers of the human world a while back. Unfortunately, it was Scraped before season 9 of MLP aired. It was sad because I really wanted to know.
0 likesBut if you looked closely in one of the MLP videos, there is actually someone who looks exactly like twilight but without the wings in a maze
0 likesIt is perfectly logical that there is a human Sunset Shimmer somewhere since, as it was shown, there was a human Twilight Sparkle who was somewhere else. While both It wouldn't make sense for there to be a pony Sunset Shimmer and there to be no counter part for her in another world i.e. human Sunset Shimmer.
0 likesIn other words: one cannot exist in one universe and not be in another universe, unless something happened to said individual in the universe in which they originated from.
If only there was a last tv film when our Sunset Shimmer has found out about her human counterpart in the human world then our Sunset get to say goodbye to her human friends & start being friends with her pony friends at Equestria.
0 likesOne question that should be answered by now is; did human Flash Sentry teach Sunset how to play a guitar or not?
0 likesHi I was wondering if you could look into the resemblance between human starlight and one of the sirens.
1 likeSo I had an idea. Any pony that went to Celestia's School Of Magic goes to crystal prep. Maybe Sunset goes to crystal prep, but we just never saw her because the school is probably really big.
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Lyra was in Twilight's class at Celestia's school though. Also someone should have recognised Sunset during the Friendship Games if that was the case.
1 likeI always wondered where the Human Suslight Glimmer (my registered nickname for Starlight Glimmer) is as well….
1 likeI think that something unfortunate happened to the human Sunset Shimmer, something bad enough to even catch a glimpse of her on the show or anything, like maybe either physically or mentally, cause just like real life, bad things happen. It's either that or maybe she's just not in the same town or country as them, for all we know Human Sunset could be in France or Europe.
0 likesI have a personal theory, it's possible that the other sunset could be in prison....
0 likesI know that sounds crazy, but it might that most likely. In the first eq. Movie, when sunset puts the crown and turns into a she-demon, she caused some damage and destruction to the school and endangered a few dozen students and mind controlled them.
I'd be surprised that no one called 911 and tried to arrest sunset since everyone still disliked and distrusted her in the 2nd movie, but the police have gotten the wrong one....
My thought is that the human sunset would have gone to the pony world and be so great at magic , since the pony sunset achieved what the human sunset wanted ,maybe the human sunset did the same
0 likesHmm…while it is possible she could also be in another city far from our main cast…which could explain the situation in Mirror Magic where Sunset tells Starlight that she has never seen anyone who looks like her
0 likesOf course not everyone could have a counterpart…they said there is no crossover from the MLP side (despite the cameo in the final song) and we never see the EQG cast in pony form nor many of the MLP cast in human form…and some who are have totally different lives like Daring Do
I have thought about this. As you did I came to the conclusion. That she must be far away from all that has happened there. We may never see her bit I could see her trying to lead a country or be working in a government position but thats all speculation. Besides I'm sure some Fan fictions played with this Idea. Who knows maybe theres a secret movie in production by Hasbro.... okay maybe not but it's always fun to guess what is happening with limited info and imagination.
0 likesAt the risk of sounding like frozen 2,a bridge has two sides. If Sunset’s fate was to link the worlds,it would make sense for her to live with her counterpart and pretend to be a long lost twin or a cousin living with the family and then both seeking the power. She’s not like discord (if he doesn’t have a human counterpart,which would make sense but we can’t be sure),she still originates in one dimension and needs a pre-existing portal to cross between them instead of creating portals herself.
1 likeThe other Siri could be that because sunset the pony version came From another world the longer she stayed in that human version the original sunset could have vanished because her pony counterparts stayed in that world so the other sunset could have just vanished over time because her pony sunset decided to stay there 😅
0 likesMy theory is there is and she does live close, but she tends to stick to the shadows and stay away from people mostly because everybody thought she was pony sunset
0 likesI think the first theory is pretty spot on!!
0 likesTheory remember in the first equestria movie when twilight was in celestial office and she showed twilight pictures of sun set shimmer as a kid from each prom queen threw out the years , how long was sun set there , question two how old was she when she got there ? , three maybe did celestial adopted sun set at a young age when she came to equasteria ?
0 likesI feel like the human Sunset would be driven by power and control rather than music. Perhaps she's somewhere studying in order to become a dictator?
0 likesIt is possible there's a human Sunset Shimmer living somewhere outside of Canterlot City. There are afterall some human characters that weren't shown as ponies in Equestria, like Sandalwood and Timber.
0 likesMaybe this IS the human Sunset. We have seen that the humans can come into Equestria (Obviously) so maybe the Sunset we've never seen is actually the Pony Sunset
0 likesSupposedly there was supposed to be EQG Movie where we would meet the original Sunset. It was going to play like the finale of the series. Unfortunately it was never finished and we never got to see it. I’m not sure if this is true. I remember seeing an article about it a while back but can’t find the original.
0 likesI thought the Cutie Mark theory was really cool since her sun cutie mark looks like a yin yang symbol but as a sun it could be possible
0 likesWe probably won't ever know if, and that is a BIG IF, there even was a human Sunset Shimmer in the first place, considering Equestria Girls was cancelled for whatever reason; if I was the head of Hasbro I would not have cancelled Equestria Girls and ended the series on a nice note though I would still be open to having more adventures with them be worked on in the future. Also maybe there IS one, though she's moved far away with her parents and our Sunset Shimmer is merely completely unaware of her existence.
0 likesSo, I've noticed in movie magic the special, Sunsets hair color is dimmed down a little... Could this because human sunset and pony sunset are becoming one? I don't think it's possible... But it could be
0 likes2:53, not just a world where he's a wizard, a world where he's also a horse
0 likesI’m ALWAYS wondered where Human!Sunset since the first EG movie!
0 likesIt can be possible that the human counterpart of Sunset doesn't even live in Canterlot, it could make sense since i don't think the world consist of only Canterlot and think there are other citys and/or towns
0 likesDon't forget about starlight glimmer too!
0 likesI really wanna see her in the human world 😭
Nope. Definitely murdered her. That is definitely something Hasbro would do.
0 likesIf Sunset was a failed musician wouldn’t she take or pose as now famous Sunset Shimmer when out and about mooching or even try to take Sunset’s place/identity later on. Oh the irony!
0 likesmy headcanon was always that susnet in pony world is the bigest mystery of celestia past, she ate too much cake, got drunk one day , and an innocent stalion got some fun in the castle, then celestia hide for a while and sunset was given out for adoption, but still looked over by celestia, with overbearing influence. Fasttracked to the school of magical ponies and snaped escaping to "hooman world"
0 likesbut that only half of the story
i am more concern about where does she live in eqd universe
with no id, no magic and no money she could as well be homeless bum, not a prom queen
Obviously we never seen sunset parents, but even if she live alone, where does the money come from?
there is always an option that she prepared herself for the travel and took enough valuables to cover her expenses, plus we asume bits being gold coins of little value, but what if equestria simply have overbearing amount of gold and pumps bits that weigh half a kilogam each, or at least a quoter, then even few equestrian coins could cover a lot of expenses in hooman analog world.
there is also the issue of principal celestia and her sister not being ancient magical horses , do they have families outside the school, or are they also immortal
in any case proncipal celestia being only a school administrator and not a god like ruler of a nation might not have a chance for one night stand with a chosen guard pony and in that case there was never a sunset shimmer in eqg universe to begin with
I have a theory
0 likespony sunset was brought to canterlot for her studies. Take magic out of the picture and she would in the human world version of her home town
If there ever was a human version of Sunset, to quote two certain robots: "PARADOX! PARADOX!"
0 likesI heard a while ago a theory that says that human sunset shimmer is just older than pony sunset shimmer. since time doesn't really move the same way in both worlds, maybe human sunset is just an adult now. I Wouldn't have gone so far as to say that she is dead.
0 likeseven Moliminious talks about this idea in he's theory right here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roWtUoIA45o&t=38s at time mark 3:41 of that video until the end of it.
But I do love the idea that sunset's destiny was being the bridge between worlds. It seems fitting. and true.
Well one things for sure.... th sunset we all know is the sunset i only love.
0 likesNow that's cool thats something and it's just... Indeed questionable 🤔. Yet the same for Twilight, she didn't known that She has her Human side until She felt a great disturbance and had to be able to go back to the Human world an rain to herself in Human form yet seeing herself Wearing glasses. But yet the same would be the same or in this cases... mysterious? If Sunset sees her human self then in her on mine and thinking; she'll have to fool human herself by sending her human self with some kind of "Message" that is something that She haven't known or rather expected?!
0 likesKeep up the great work and the awesome job really Ur doing an excellent job. #Brohoof/)
If the idea of there only being one sunset the reasoning could be that she has a parent from each world such as a farther in the human world and a mother in the pony world or vice versa
0 likesactually, human sunset shimmer is olivia rodrigo. i am actually lauren faust and this is canon.
1 likeHuman Sunset has been doing time in prison, a promising student who went bad and fell in with the wrong crowd.
0 likesI am a huge fan of this channel so please keep making more videos like this but I now have a question of my own: pony Sunset Shimmer has now become famous(?) in the human world so would that mean that human world Sunset Shimmer would know about her already? Or did pony Sunset find her and kidnap her or something? Just a thought.
0 likesOk I just felt a strong tug on my chest when you said Sunshim k!lled her human world counterpart... Like dang dude...
0 likesWell I wonder how my sister's pony would look as a human
0 likesHey sawtooth i wanna know what element dose sunset represent
0 likesThis is the only question that was buging me since Equestria Girls.
0 likesI want mlp to create a short film or something to show us human Sunset!
0 likesIf the Human Sunset is in the human world, she could be either in another town no where near Canterlot High. Maybe a wondering teenager that has no home, no parents and no relatives and works minor wages
0 likesGood question…What if she IS the human and the pony version!
0 likesThe writers said that there is no human Sunset because they wanted her to be her own thing. Which makes sense, as not everyone has a counterpart. Even if there was one, who says she was alive (or even born yet), at the same time as pony Sunset. After all Princess Celestia and Luna are over 1000 years old. I'm pretty sure their human counterparts aren't that old. Plus, all the EQGs are younger than their pony counterparts. Throw in the fact that the writers said that Sunset is the human world' seventh Element of Harmony, Empathy (for some reason, the human world has 7 instead of 6), and it goes with what the writers said about there not being a human Sunset, otherwise SHE would be the human world's 7th Element. And the way a red star rose up into the sky to compliment the purple star shined in the distance (seemingly representing pony Twilight), it's like she's meant to fulfill a destiny in the human world as the leader of the EQGs the way Twilight does with the Mane Six. It definitely does seem to be her destiny as you suggested.
0 likesAs for Sunset killing her counterpart, that's' ridiculous. It completely goes against her character, even when she was bad (she didn't become that evil until she became a demon). Plus, she would never be able to get away with it. Even if she could somehow cover up the murder, she would have to get rid of literally everyone who knew the human Sunset. And it was made clear that everyone only met Sunset when she cam to the human world anyway.
Also, Sunset may be a good musician and good at science (academics in general really), but her real talent seems to be art. She is, after, Flanksy.
Ok so here's my theory: there's no human world. Let me explain:
1 likeLet's think for a few seconds: Equestria is a huge place with possibly thousands even millions of ponies living there. And the ruler of this place is just a school principal in human world with means if everypony have a human version of them a high school in human world would contain thousands of students and teachers working there. Which in Equestria girls that isn't true infact not only did we didn't have all characters in Equestria girls there is so much characters that we don't know they even exist in Equestria and like gloriosa dassy and most of the antagonist in Equestria girls
We where told that sirens were banned from Equestria to human world and every new bad guys and spells were found not so easily usually taking twilight hours even making her go to very old libraries and looking for lost peaces for hours to find the completed source and twilight is smart it really seems like they are forgotten old peoples and spells for examples: memory stone, that time repeater thingy that i don't remember the name of and like there's so many unexplained plots about magic in it.
and are we going to forget how much of a tiny please human world is? And like i honestly don't think that if this world had a government they just wouldn't notice it. It's just No Way. Also we haven't seen a single government related character except of guards and bodyguards and guards for theme parks and whatever. and if a ruler of a big country is just a principal is there a some kinda god in pony world that can be the mayor of the town at least? Cause i don't think so.
So what if human world's whole experience was for ponies to just hide their precious magical items without worrying of it getting used because they made it so magic doesn't work on this world and it makes sense the More we go into it. A lots of forgotten special items and people that live in human world and don't have a pony counterpart and yeah there's also a possibility that some of humans are just the descendants of creatures getting banned from Equestria
And i also think that this experience happened before starsvel and him banning sirens from Equestria is the recent one.
OR IS IT?
There's a weird thing about sunset shimmer: she thinks she chose to go to human world but is it really true?
Because in Equestria girls there was multiple times when sunset go to pony world and asked for help and there was multiple times twilight helped her too but in mlp there was just one single reference to Equestria girls and it wasn't sunset shimmer helping her in episode finale is was a memory sunset shimmer was just a friend that twilight made and where is she? Gone! She's banned. And like sunset could help so much more to twilight but she didn't and we can't tell that she didn't know because in Equestria girls it was said that twilight and sunset chat a lot and so i think maybe Equestria girls is just hallucination of what it could happen if sunset could contact her friend. And the more you look into it the deeper it gets: things that really makes her sad are loosing her friends and people hating on her because of what she has done to them
"If Days are all the same maybe you are the one who should change" but it doesn't matter anymore we don't know what sunset shimmer did but everything makes more sense with this theory. There is no government it's just manipulation. And i think All the people are manipulated they are bad version of what they wher in other timelines and banned from their world because of what they've done . And like the whole identity thing getts a lot easier in this theory if all people are manipulated because having a house with that much stuff in it is impossible for a teenager to have on their own and like without this theory sirens living hundreds of years identifying them selfs as young woman doesn't make sense and it definitely needs alot of faking id cards and all stuff and could easily bring government's attention to these ladies that just don't age. It's possible that they could hide it from them for a very long time but they would find out eventually.
I also really like to remember you guys that from what we know sunset shimmer started her listens before twilight meaning she is older than her but through out the series we just see twilight grow and grow yet sunset is still in highschool and if twilight is younger than sunset is she would be around 13 to 18 but she doesn't seem that young at the end of the series she looks 21 or so (when i say the end of series i don't mean that part when they are all old and grown up i just mean when they defeated the enemies for the last time)
I have way more evidence but I'm tired and my brain just feels tired now
But I feel like this theory just fills too many plot holes to be wrong
(Also English is my second language so sorry if i misspelled something here and there 🙃)
Hey sawtooth, remember what princess celestia said"magic cannot disappear in thin air" or something like that, what happened to grogars magic?
0 likesWell, we see that age works different in human world, maybe she is adult, I mean, she IS older that Twilight.
0 likesSorry for joining in late, but I guess the right question must be "where is equestian Sunset Shimmer from and does this place have a human counterpart"
0 likesYou think she may be a nexus being like from Marvel Scarlet Witch, but more good
0 likesWhat would the alternate timelines look like in the human world who would be the villains and I just wanted to say that I love your Channel and that My Little Pony taught me all about friendship and that is why I have so many friends today
0 likesI have a theory
0 likesTwilight study science in the human world she didn’t have any friends but wasn’t that also because she was far away from her friends in the human world so she couldn’t meet them and she went to a seoperate school,
If we go off my knowledge , what if sun set is far away somewhere else,she’d have to be going to a school farther away than crystal prep since twilight was from there , like you said maybe she got obsessed with music and started touring around the world, or maybe sun set killed her other twin , or maybe she convinced the other sunset that she her long lost sister and she changed information so that it looks as if they’re actually sisters , that saying they have the same DNA so if they did a DNA test they be the same or really close to say they’re twins ,
Or say she they’re cousin ,
What do you think?
I'm sure Human Sunset Shimmer somewhere in Human world and be happy with her friends.
1 likeApparently there where plans to show what happened to human sunset in a special but they never got around to doing it
0 likesCelestia: That girl is our last hope
0 likesOptimus Prime: No... there is another
Rodimus: Ok boomer
I feel like if there is an original human Sunset Shimmer, she would be a high school dropout.
0 likesI said this in another video too... there is a possibility that human sunset never exists...
0 likesThink of it this way... by how the show puts flash sentry's love life it is xlear that the human flash is unloved with sunset and his pony counterpart is in love with twilight... even if the human is in love with twilight, sci-twi has clearly chosen timbre...
Either way... if both twilights were to have offsprings they would be different because they're fathers aren't each others counterparts... we can apply this equation to sunset's parents... maybe that falling in love with the same counterpart thing didn't apply 🤔
What‘s the name of the Comic, that you showed in this Video?
1 likeSunset is actually my fave character
0 likesjust imagine the military from the human world goes to equestria friendship won't save you from bullets lol.
0 likesHuman sunset could be working at STARBUCKS for all I know
0 likesAre you gonna do any more theories on The alternate dimensions that you have not visit yet because I really want you to do that because I really want to know how all of this happened in those alternate dimension
0 likesShe did explicitly state her dislike and detest for violence.
0 likesactually Starlight glimmer also dose not have a human form...
0 likesIn the episode magic mirror, Starlight had came to the mlpeg world but everyone said they have not seen her before but when Twilight came...Pinkie asked her if she has a twin sister and a twin dog somewhere in the world....maybe Sunset also dose not have a human form...
See microchips, he is an important character in mlpeg but I never got to see him in pony world...
Sawtooth, if you see this, prepare for a surge in views and subs (hopefully)
1 likeDude its confirmed a human Sunset exists by the creators of the EQG . So yes their is a human Sunset
0 likesWould sunset really kill her human counterpart?
0 likesWhat if human Sunset accidentaly got herself in Equestria? And she's now in some reclused place living undercover
0 likesI had that suspicion of Sunset Shimmer killing her human world self and taking her place as well then it made me think of Mirai Nikki
0 likesI have a theory in this video https://youtu.be/-xvadfuntmo at 2:14 what if the fish is sunset's counter part? it could be possible that her counter part turned into a fish cause of the magic
0 likesWhat if human sunset ended up in the pony world?
0 likesI have been waiting for this for years
0 likesDoes anyone know who the principal at Crystal prep is?
0 likesCould you do a video on what if midnight sparkle wasn’t defeated?
0 likesSawtooth your the MatPat/GameTheory of MLP
0 likescan you do one about starlight glimer
0 likesI’ve waited so long for this video
0 likesWhat if she's a pony in human world and she doesn't notice that human sunset is related with her? Or she's like real life horses intelligent, so she wouldn't be visiting human sunset actively?🤯
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My second guess might be a "bit" of brutal, just behind the "pony sunset killed human sunset" theory.😂
1 likehonestly I like to think that human sunset committed suicide - I have no reasoning behind this it just seems very fitting.
0 likesI wonder why sunset shimmer’s colours dim with each movie? Or is that just me??
0 likesYou’re sooo freaking smart!!!
0 likesi could immediately tell who was who. Mainly because of those obnoxiously prominent yellow highlights.
0 likesShe went all Rick Sanchez and mordor'd the O.H. Sunset Shimmer.
0 likesI want to watch the end of Equestria Girls
0 likesThis is a question i keep asking
0 likesIs another Sunset in human world??
Because original Sunset is from the pony world.
you had to use Newton, why? why had you had to use the guy that resembles the founder of QUEEN?
0 likesCould the sunset from the human world be in equestria because what if they switched places
1 likeI also thought the same thing there has to be another sunset because there is another one of every other pony
0 likesTHE ISSAC NEWTON THING LMAO PLEASE
1 likeNext video: The other Starlight Glimmer
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What if there is a human Equestria Sunset Shimmer and a pony Equestria Sunset Shimmer and they both know eachother exist. They could've been working together the whole time behind everyone's/everypony's backs? Sunset Shimmer would've needed help to steal Twilight Sparkle's crown in the first Equestria Girls movie. Wouldn't she?
1 like-Where another sunset shimmer?
0 likes-she killed her, -me
What ifthe alternate sunset syimmer also went to another world so maybe instead of there being a sunset in the human world there is secretly one in the pony world
0 likesBOOOM!!
I mean the human world is huge, if it is anything near our world. I think Sunset is out there just not in the area of the school.
0 likesim still thinking that sunset shimmer isn't a real pony at all and that means she don't have a human version
0 likesThe truth is I never thought about it maybe Sansa Chimar is studying in Crystal Perp High School
0 likesSawtooth I have a video suggestion. if the rain boom was made by Rainbow Dash then how come Rainbow Dash isn’t the leader of the main six instead of twilight
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I mean that’s how the main six got there cutie marks so yeah
0 likesDidnt the writers stated there was no sunset counterpart
0 likesOnce u made theory about Sunset shimmer becoming an alicorn right after she sang the My past is not today song. But later, mlp eg new episode released which is the Spring Breakdown. In this episode, Twilight, sunset and rainbow dash get stuck over an Island and they travel through a portal on the island that leads to equestria. In that, sunset didn't become an alicorn which shows that back then when she sang that song, she didn't become an alicorn.
0 likesI guess there really is an original human sunset, but she probaly lives in a different country or something.
0 likesWerent you the one that long ago had the idea that since pony sunset is older than pony twilight there's a chance that original human sunset was already an established adult doing grown up things no longer a student when pony sunset came into the world and became a student? Or was that a different brony theorist?
0 likesMaybe the human world sunset is somewhere in between campeverfree and chs or the human sunset is pony sunset’s neighbour
0 likesIt’s just my theory we’ve seen pinkie pie’s house before the battle of the bands
Is there a other version Oh human Starlight In the Human World
0 likesHeres something to think about what is Garbal the red dragon dog counterpart like in the human world i imagine a stray of sorts
0 likesSunset shimmer.
0 likesIN SPACE 🧠
I think sunset shimmer would be like twilight glasese
0 likesI know where she is and who she is...
1 likeI hope they make human sunset shimmer
0 likesThat girl DEFINITELY got murdered LOL
1 likeEdit: oml I commented this before he suggested that XD
We will never get an answer because my little pony ended and so did eg and left a lot of questions
0 likesI remeber your the secret alicorn princess well you said that cadance was a baby while the story was going on soo there is one alicorn i think that princess could be - princess amore cadance's mom it actually could be her
0 likesI honestly think the human Sunset died from a car crash or somethin lol
0 likesI wonder why that twilight is different in the human world and all of the others are the same
0 likesHi I have a question
0 likesDo you know Princess Luna and Princess celesta well there both princess but queen chrysalis is queen could she be Luna and celestad mother??
Is there a reason why you are doing a lot of Sunset Shimmer videos?
0 likes0:30 that’s not how that works.
0 likesWhat if the human sunset goes to a different school. We never saw sunburst or starlight and if sunset shimmer is sunbursts sister maybe their home in the mlp world is another school in the human world.
0 likesWhere do I watch equistria girls mlp. They removed it from Netflix
0 likes2:58 It's possible, I don't know.
1 likeI think there is maybe we will see in the next season
0 likesI think like the equestrian sunset went to human world the human world sunset must have a link with equestrian world.
0 likesBlueberry but maybe the one that went to the human world that has was actually from the human world and had another portal from him there it's possible unlikely but there's a chance I don't know sunset tomorrow
0 likesWait now I want to see a human sawtooth cartoon versuon
0 likeslol i've been asking this for years
0 likesThey confirmed THERE US ONLY ONE SUNSET SHIMMER
0 likesI've been thinking about your last video and..... Maybe that discord toy was the human world discord
0 likesMaybe the other sunset is in a different school
0 likesBrilliant topic
0 likesWait. If yellow represents Equestria and red represents the human world.... ohh I get it, its just like mixing colors.
0 likesalso Starlight Glimmer!!
0 likesI haven't seen the human version of ponies
0 likesWhat do they do after they graduate
0 likesWhat if she killed her self 😳 🤔
1 likeI think the human sunset is dead from a car crash or something
0 likesand some more characters who I don't know the name of....
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like the one who is white and has green hair and a red cap...she also dose not has a pony form....or....maybe, leave . my brain is exploding...
0 likesI think the human sunset shimmer looks a normal human girl can be hero than a viliain
0 likesSun set from the human Word mabey going to cristal prep
0 likesWere is the starlight glimmer human?
0 likesBut where is the real human sunset shimmer
0 likesFUCK YES SUNSET SHIMMER
0 likeswhy do i keep feelok,t liek ur voice got higher anyways uhM this makes sense
0 likesFlower ear boi why u so cute?
0 likesI HAVE A THEORY WHAT IF SUNSET HAS BEEN HIDEING IN THE PONY EQUESTRIEA ? PLS TEL?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????:D
0 likesi just thoutght human sunset also like human twi, live in a diffrent city.
0 likesits the pony sunsnnt you sold
0 likesLove u 😘
0 likesOr she reprezent the bouf words
0 likeswhat the hell sunsetmhimmer she doing here
0 likesISAAC NEWTON-
0 likesSunset shimer is soo mane part
0 likesi tink every where
0 likesi think of sun simmer had with DR who for when now and she had get to others times too, as for it now,
1 likeI still wonder
0 likesI am a big fan
0 likesTHE CAPTIONS WERD
1 likeSo now hu.ans and ponies can get married
0 likesSunset shimmer is good or bad
0 likesNow? please don't worry
0 likesWhete do sunset live do she live in the school or in her friend house
0 likesIs sunset shimer make the portal
0 likesSunset
0 likesYOI ARE MOTHBALL
0 likeswhat sunset did NOT KILL HUMAN SUNSET the human sunset might be in some were els or mabe not bron yet
0 likesShe killed
0 likesNenhum BR ;-;
0 likesпони Сансет Шиммер наверное убила Человека Сансет Шиммер вот и все
0 likesShe killed her.
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Maybe... maybe Sunset from Equestria (before she was reformed) killed the Sunset at the Human world. But why would she kill the Sunset from the Human world? Because she wanted to be the one to connect both worlds?
0 likesHmmmmm i think sunset doesn't have a
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0 likesAt mlp movie in Equestria gils she says shes not a monster
0 likesWhy you just don't ask pinky pie?
0 likesis she dead
0 likeswhat is there is no humen sunset prencess luna said sussets world is very diffrent from ours so what if there is no humen sunset but radher a pony sunset luna said sunsets world what if our sunset is the humen sunset and the real queshqen is where is pony sunset it filles a lot of plot holes like where has sunset lived all these years or how is she going to school it makes sence so my theory is that sunset is from the humen world and my queshqen is where is pony sunset
0 likesPls make one video on mlp g5 Wait am i the only one telling sawwtooth to make a video on mlp g5 dont you guys care about mlp g5 new movie
0 likesplagiarism
0 likesIf Equestria Girls would continue at least ONE more special, the writers should cook up a story based on the whereabouts of Human Sunset Shimmer. It'll be a very good and interesting way to revitalize the series! 😃
0 likesI also wonder the same about Starlight Glimmer. In the special where she went to the Human World, she needed to stay low.
0 likesWhen that eventually failed, people were shocked to see her. To me, this feels like they know she's from Equestria, but how?
I've always considered the possibility that there was a human Sunset, but that she either died as a child or was in an accident that took her life. So the connection was there, she just wasn't around. And due to the loss of their daughter, Sunset's human parents moved far away to put as much distance between themselves and the memory of their daughter as possible so there was no chance of them running into pony-turned-human Sunset. Imagine the shock!
1 likeTheory: We probably haven’t met her counterpart cause she probably is somewhere else and never bothered to go to Sunset’s school, even if she did see the big explosion. Or maybe she was somewhere too far away to see it. Let’s see she was Princess Celestia’s pupil so maybe she is someone’s pupil as well. Maybe like Sapphire shores, or maybe a president or mayor? Remember canter-lot isn't the only place in Equestria we have so many other territories. so conclusion is maybe she is a far away place with some person full of power or will.
1 likeI'm wondering why there are so many characters in the human world who aren't seen in Equestria. 🤔 Do those humans even have pony counterparts and if so, why haven't we seen them? I'm glad to see another theory about Sunset Shimmer and whether or not she has a human counterpart, but I'm also curious about the humans whom we've never seen pony counterparts to.
0 likesHonestly, I can see Human Sunset as being/aiming to be a power hungry politician (maybe coming from a family of like minded individuals who put a HUGE emphasis on public "face"). Ends up in some sort of school related scandal, maybe related to pony Sunset, and ends up being forced to move schools out of shame or public embarrassment to her peers and probably family.
0 likesActually, Hasbro already announced that they had plans to reveal the human Sunset in the finale of EQG, but it was unfortunately canceled which was really sad.
0 likesThere's also an EQG movie script/synopsis floating about for an unproduced finale to the series that features Human Sunset, written by one of the official writers.
0 likesI liked the idea that you portrayed with her cutie mark and its colors proving the idea of there not actually even being an alternate world version of her and her being kind of like Discord
0 likesI like to think that the human Sunset was the principal of Canterlot high before Celestia(as we don't have the age for the two sister principals, it's plausible that they've been principals easily for a decade or more before pony Sunset first showed up). Maybe human Sunset is an octogenarian living in a retirement home somewhere?
0 likesI always just assumed the human Sunset Shimmer was out there just in another part of the world, like how there was another Twilight but she went to a different school, hence why we never see or hear from her.
0 likesI think it’s possible that Sunset never had a human counterpart to begin with. Half of the students at Canterlot Hight don’t even seem to have pony counterparts anyway.
1 likeI like the whole her destiny is the link between them but it is also so much fun to think about the endless possibilities
0 likesApparently the finale to the equestria girls series was supposed to be centered around the human sunset, if they didn't cancel the series we might have gotten an answer. I'm not sure if this is true but I really wish they didn't end off the series without giving us a proper finale. Hopefully we'll get an answer to this question soon ☺️
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But a question I'm wondering about is how does she own/rent an apartment or even work because she wasn't born there so how she get a job does she have a work visa or student visa
0 likesFor me I had a theory a while back and even comented on it on dr.wolfs channel when he brought the topic. So here it is:
0 likesWhat if the awnser was staring back at us from the start.
What is the Sunset we have always known is the human Sunset. That at a young age she ended up in equestria and since she was really young she doesn't remember anything of it as a human.
Hi Sawtooth! Can you make a video about the empty timeline we saw with Starlight Glimmer? I honestly think it's Cozy Glow's timeline because who else could it be?
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It can be really anything, since according to the butterfly effect, even the smallest change in the past can make a huge difference in the result. It is entirely open to interpretation.
0 likesCongrats on 400k subscribers!
0 likesCould you make a video about how astronomy & space might work in Equestria?
Watching your videos is a wonderful start to my day
1 likeI'm guessing Nameless didn't tell you this, but the rules of a multiverse dictate, that every living thing existing within it, always has a parallel counterpart, no matter how small or big, due to the need for the balance of energy. The only beings, that do not have counterparts are those, who exist outside the multiverse! Those, who were born before its creation. (just like our friendly multiverse encyclopedia, Nameless.) Meaning Sunset definitely has a counterpart! Where though? 🤷♂️
1 likeI like Silverquill's (joke) theory that when she entered the human world the other one was right there and had a heart attack and died from shock.
1 likeTwilight was not from Canterlot but sent to school there because of her magic. Same could be said of human Twilight. Hunting magic led her to Canterlot. The question is where did Sunset come from before she was sent to Canterlot to study magic under Celestial? Sunsets human version may still be in human equivalent since there was no magic to send her to Canterlot.
0 likesWell, there are multiple accounts of humans that don't have pony counterparts (that we know of). So perhaps there are ponies that don't have human counterparts. And if that's the case, perhaps there is no human Sunset Shimmer. It could also be the case that regardless of her history, human Sunset may have just ended up in another location. For example, the "Humane" 6 live in Canterlot. Before that, Twilight lived at Chrystal Prep (or whatever city that was)
0 likesThis is why i love sawtooth's channel cause i can now understand those hard questions about mlp
0 likes3:08 hearing this makes me think that a human counterpart of Sunset will be an egotistical mafia or some sort, i dunno.
2 likesHuman sunset could be an artist, as equestrian sunset has been shown making a comic and doing graffiti.
1 likeWhat if she somehow discovered the portal before everyone else, and became trapped in Equestria because she couldn't find her way back home. She hides from everypony and studies magic, hoping she can find some sort of spell that could send her home
0 likesthe sunset we know could be the human sunset who got transported to equestria when she was really young, and then smth couldve happened to equestrian sunset without us knowing.
1 likethats what i was wondering. thanks for the video man, take some more rests and enjoy your day/noon/night
0 likesThis is exactly what I thought when the first time I watched mlp Equestria girls,😁I was like"if there a human version of the ponies,so where is the human version of sunset shimmer 🤔" anyways keep up the good work 👍🏻
0 likesDo you think we’ll get more equestria girls? I doubt it but it would be great!
0 likesShe could have even lived in a different era.
0 likesI think that she'd be studious but not to where she has no friends and lives in the Human World equivalent of Manehattan. She'd probably ace Math, Science, and Historybeing the star student in everything except for say Psychology, maybe she's even in the Human World equivalent of Starlight and Sunburst's hometown.
0 likesI'm forever upset that Equestria Girls never covered this topic .....like is no one questioned whether or not she has a human counterpart?
0 likesyet we may never know what happened to Sunsets shimmer's human counter part cause Hasbro decide to end Equestria girls on holidays unwrapped which was horrible not gonna lie i wish we could of seen her counter part and see a better ending of equestrian girls like all of them Graduating from School and going to Collage
0 likesI'm actually writing a fanmade sequel for eg, and it includes many side characters becoming smth and also a new one thats gonna have a big role on the story, also the whole thing is about that the human world actually had magic before and ppl actually have wings and magic without the pony ears ofc(and that was basically before the gen of mane 6/7 was born) and celestia and luna used to rule that world (pretty much it will have a different name from equestria) then an evil queen of some land has strong magic with great knowledge how to use it, starts stealing more and more magic from citizens as she was heading to the sisters land to rule it cuz its known for its great magic ,but when they knew she's a serious danger they tried to protect their citizens by casting a spell that would isolate them from the other lands that this evil lady already took over (so like they become almost invisible like if someone passes thru their they just teleports to the other side of the world, its kinda complicated srry) and in order to do that they have to ask all of their citizens for their magic so that they will be safe and no one will use it for evil in their land, but sorrowfully this queen stole their magic already and the only thing that she couldn't take over was the sisters land cuz it already disappeared, then basically the sisters have no magic now but at least their land is protected so they contact all of the governments to tell them to keep everything secret from the upcoming generations, then when the mane 6 were born the spirits of harmony were transfered to them, and when sunset brought the element of magic to the world its like their magic was reactivated becuz the element was a replacement, and as u did say sunset keeps the two worlds connected and balanced like she represents harmony or smth, then ofc the spell of the world protection was temporary so the girls find out abt the secret of the "2 sisters principals" and the spell goes off and they face the evil queen and stuff, then it would be fun to see the girls or the citizens basically get used to their magic and wings and their surroundings and to mention there ARE wonderbolts and many other species and creatures and even changelings and discord (he's gonna be smth) and that's basicly the plot!
1 likeI was thinking she could be pushing to be a politician in the human world. It makes sense, with her wanting to be a princess in Equestria.
0 likesmaybe weve already met her since the earlier sunset and more recent sunset have different colored hair
1 likeWhat if, Sunset Shimmer actually was originally from the human dimension? It could be a reason that Celestia has that portal. Sunset Shimmer and Celestia could have worked on the portal themselves and before they did, they were good friends since they did have journals to each other. Celestia told her how to help make the portal and Sunset came through but as a pony. And, Sunset could have learned all of her magic from Celestia. That could explain how "original human Sunset" was never mentioned. The Sunset we know and love could be the original.
0 likesI was thinking about this 2 days ago
1 likeAnd came to the conclusion that she probably died-
Because that's the only logical explanation I could think of
Wow that’s the biggest mystery of all. You need the greatest detective on the job for this
0 likesI weirdly think that actual human sunset is dead but not from pony sunset. I think she might've when she was younger maybe killed herself or got some sickness of something that had killed her. There's not much evidence but its a cool idea- and dark.
0 likesI think the pony sunset was only on the first equestria movie
1 likeBut the rest of the movies and equestria girls series where she's a part of the main was the human sunset, because of the difference between the two personalities but I'm not sure
I saw Sunset Shimmer and I clicked on as fast as I could. Yes I like Sunset Shimmer, I'm not a fanboy but I just like the character development.
0 likesThis is a question for Sawtooth Waves: Did you notice their hairs are different?
0 likesMy theory is that since pony sunset lives in the human world, human sunset may have discovered a portal to equestia and now lives there, she could be the sunset we see in the final episode of FIM
1 likeWhat do you think about the theory Stydgian and Star Swirl are related? They look just a little too similar imo.
0 likesI think there is an original human sunset shimmer out there to be honest
0 likes&
Also I’ve always wondered why we haven’t seen the original human versions of the Cyrons (the Dazzlings)
(Sorry for the bad spelling, not my strong suit)
I've had the same question in mind for a long time!
0 likesI personally can accept all of these theories
0 likesEverybody always asking where human Sunset Shimmer or is there a Sunset Shimmer…
1 likeBut no one ever asks how is Sunset Shimmer…
Another possibility is that human Sunset is a link to yet another realm (accessed through science instead of magic)
0 likesthe theory we’ve been waiting for
1 likeForget Sunset, someone needs to make sure human-world Starlight didn't
0 likesALSOstart some kind of cult, ASAP!Hurry, before someone gets sacrificed to some edgy Heavy Metal diety!
I’m still sad about eqg getting no ending
0 likesRandom facts:
0 likesthe power of friendship in the human world was actually the same power as the nuke( as well the power of music in rainbow rocks has the same power as the nuclear arsernal)
very interesting question I don't even know who knows the answer to this it is possible that there is one of them but it would be interesting to watch the video where the two characters meet or meet , but that video is very good . 👍👍👍👍👍🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
0 likesWhat about Starlight Glimmer? She went to the human world but there was no counter part for her. In Equestria she divided poeple making them think they have no talents. So if there is a counter part for her. Does that means she did the same thing in the human world?
0 likesI think she is the element of forgiveness, so her ying yang cuties mark represents that
1 likeI've been thinking more about human Starlight and how she's probably a cult leader
0 likes1 theory
0 likesBut, there's a problem. What about the sirens? They're probably the first equestrians to go to the human world. And they used magic in a cafe. So...
Can you do some theories on the new G5 series I would really like to know what you think
2 likesI want to know why cozyglow was so evil even though she's so young and cute
0 likesThis was going to be the plot of the cancelled final Equestria Girls season 2 special. What happened to the Human Sunset Shimmer? But DrWolf001 has theorised that when Pony Sunset first opened the portal it cost her Human counterparts existance. And what if the only way to bring the Human Sunset Shimmer back was for Pony Sunset shimmer to return to Equestria and destroy the portal closing off both dimensions from eachother. When you think about it this story has a lot of potential and would be a great finale for the not only Equestria Girls but G4 in general. I hope Hasbro decides to create the final special for us Bronies.
0 likesHold and back up!!
0 likesThere's a human Starswirl?!
The writers probably thought it would be weird and awkward if she was shown.
0 likesI want to see a short or episode of Starswirl Abearded going to the human realm now
0 likesmaybe she threw human sunset back through the portal. maybe that's why noone has been searching for her over the past lotsa moons
0 likesSo Boulder Media just announced today that they're hiring animators for a pony related project coming up. Here's hoping it will be the EG finale. We may find out soon.
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really?!
0 likes@Yellow Heart Really really. Check the ad on their Facebook page.
0 likes@Leon Smith based on their poster it maybe pony live 2.0 - I hope not and someone said in the comments its just for another hasbro show but boulder media in the past said if they would
0 likeshave chance they surely will like to animate for mlp eg season 3 and they were animating summer shorts so maybe its chance that is for new season mlp eg season maybe
@Leon Smith i hope this isnt for G5 i saw somwhere in old hasbro plans that they were in the begging kepping eg around G5 but idk if its true
0 likesWhat I like to believe is that the sunset of the human world changed her appearance so that’s why we don’t see another sunset as that sunset doesn’t look like our sunset
0 likes2:44 My goodness Sawtooth and his out of this world theories
1 likeDay 3 of asking Sawtooth to read The Journal of the Two Sisters
0 likesWell.. what if Lyra was originally from the human world? And human and pony Lyra changed places? That is why we see Lyra doing so many human things
0 likesHey Sawtooth, what are your thoughts about G5? 🦄
0 likeshad EQ girls gone on we would have seen her
1 likeI think maybe she got suspended from her school, like how she kinda got kick out/dropped out/etc. of Celestia program
0 likesWell it's possible that the two Sunsets are not even the Same (Physical)Age,
0 likesI mean if the Dazzlings/Sirens lived in the time of Starswirl the Bearded over 1000 Years ago, and were sent to the Human World so long ago, and yet they were still Alive & still Teenagers by Rainbow Rocks despite being over 1000 Years old,
it's possible that a flaw in the magic that allows Beings from Other Worlds to take on Transformations that allows them to blend in with whatever World they travel to, may also have a side effect on the Aging Process for them, but they might resume aging at a Normal rate upon returning to their Home World(I mean we're Not talking like True Immortality here, just hitting the Pause Button on the Aging Process and nothing more),
in the Comics we saw that Sunset was relatively close to the ages of Shining Armor & Cadence while Twilight was still just a little Filly, meaning that Sunset is close to(but still less than) a Decade older than Pony Twilight,
and if she entered the Mirror Portal and became a Human Teenager at sometime nearly a Decade before the events of EQG1, and if there was a Side Effect that caused her to Stop Aging, then she would still be stuck looking like a Teenager this whole time despite the fact that she's closer to Cadence & Shining Armor's ages(and how else could someone from Another Dimension have gone through the process of establishing a Full/Legal Identity in a Modern Human World setting in such a short amount to time),
now if Sunset had a Human Counterpart in the Human World, who did NOT have some bizarre Magical Whatever happening to the Aging Process for her, it's possible that by today the Human Sunset is actually a full grown Adult close to Shining Armor & Cadence's Ages, and she's living her own life in a far away place no where near Canterlot High this whole time,
now imagine if Human Sunset became a some kind of Teacher(maybe Science) at Canterlot High, and Pony Sunset was in her Class!
no, human Sunset has to exists, im certain
0 likeswhen you remake flash sentiry''s secrets theory
0 likesShe is on the moon base with the original pony cozy glow
0 likes2:54
0 likes->"Where he was a wizard"
->is an earthpony
Oh god finally my doubt is clear!
1 likenow whats about starlight? does she have an human counterpart? 🤔
0 likesAmbition, power lust, and manipulative. She is studying law or politics.
0 likesWhen You Sawtooth Said: "Where is Human Sunset Shimmer:
2 likesI Said: Locked In Pony Sunset's Basement xD
my guess would be because sunset shimmer was before twilight and was banished from equestria by princess celestia who's to say she wasn't originally at that school and then either dropped out or kicked out by the principle and is now living her life in jail or stuck at home?
1 likeWhat if sunset is only one in both dimensions?
1 likeThe cutie mark theory is awesome
0 likesI have a possibility what if The human world sunset went to a Equestria?
0 likesthis is something from a timeline, in cutie re-mark could you see that when Chryslis took over Equestria, Fluttershy & Pinkiepie still had their same cutie mark :( How, please reply or make a video or something??
0 likesShe’s a total Slytherin
0 likesI have my own theory
0 likespony twilight = human twilight are twilight's counter part
but when sunset went to the human world the world's dis balanced them. but when twilight came to the human world the world's were balanced. but after that pony twilight went to equestria so the worlds were again disbalanced . then since pony twilight had gone to the human world then turning sunset into pony twilight's counterpart (not human counterpart. pony twilight's HUMAN counterpart is HUMAN twilight but pony twilight's COUNTERPART is sunset). and since pony twilight's counter part is now sunset, so sunset's COUNTERPART is Human twilight. So sunset has no HUMAN counterpart, because she is her own HUMAN counterpart because she lives is the HUMAN world.
This is the one thing that i was thinking about Sawtooth Waves .
0 likesWhat if the pony world and Twilight Sparkle got exposed by the entire human world.
0 likesI JUST REWATCHED THE FIRST FEW MINUTES OF THE LEGEND OF EVERFREE ( 4TH EQUESTRIA GRLS MOVIE ) AND SOME THING TRIGGERED ME TWILIGHT HAD A DREAM IN WHICH MIDNINGT SPARKE TELEPORTED THE MANE 7 INTO AN UNKNOWN DIMENSION WHAT IS THAT CULD IT BE ANOTHER TIME LINE WHEN STARLIGHT TRIED TO STOP THE RAINBOOM ??
1 likeEDIT : THE THEORY OF SRATSWIRL IN HOOMAN WORLD LOL XD
BTW THE THEORY WAS AMAZING
Mabie she lives in Russia and rules the land there. Would that make any sense?
0 likesYesss thanks for including my sis theory of sunset killing her counterpart
0 likesThe Sunset Paradox 🌄🌆
0 likesWe all know human sunset is in Australia
0 likesWhat if our Sunset is the human Sunset and there wasn't a pony Sunset to start with?
0 likesI think that if their was a human sunset shimmer that means that sunset the from equestria would have to go back and that another sunset would have to learn the ways of friendship but that would also mean sunset would have to give up her necklace to that another sunset before she left for equestria saw I think that would happen
0 likeshmm i never thought about that.... i always in of acosiated sunset with starlight like they have got a kind of connection
0 likesSawtooth that's correct if there's a human twilight there should be a human Sunset
0 likesMLP does not wants to show killing they want to teach friendship and love
0 likesGreat work have a great day 🌈🍓🦄🍩🍉🍭 what if pony sunset scared human sunset away
0 likesi have been waiting for it for years
0 likesIs it possible that our sunset shimmer is the original human sunset shimmer. Ok like hear me out. At one point during sunset's training she finds the portal and steps through. She then finds the human sunset and she become jealous of the idea of magic so she gets pony sunset to take her through the portal and in return gets pony sunset introuble. Pony sunset gets taken somewhere and so the sunset we know is the human one who wanted to join the worlds so she can show the humans that they are more than what they were told.
0 likesIdk its just a theory
This was the same question I had
0 likesCan you make a video talking about Screwball?
0 likesWhat if all the Equestria is Magic went to the human world because seems like all the magic disappeared from the trailer because we never see Twilight close the portal to the human world
0 likesHow about.... King Sombra in the human world?.....
0 likesPS: please do it
Also what about the human starlight glimmer??(and any pony else who is from Equestria??)
1 likewhat if human sunse shimmer wanted to come to the pony world like pony sunset shimmer but instead vice versa
0 likesEveryone asking where is the human sunset but never how is the human sunset 😔
0 likesI have a theory that if human sunset comes up the pony sunset has to go back to Equestria because there has to ecual because there can't be two sunset's because it's going to confusing so pony sunset has to back to Equestria because there's one pony twilight and there's a human twilight and pony sunset and when human sunset comes pony sunset could finally go back home
0 likesFun fact we were suppose to meet human sunset shimmer. Doctor wolf made a video about it saying how hasbro did plan for a MLP EQG Special
0 likeswhen u said about the magic part u forgot about starlight glimmer
0 likesI don't think their is a human sunset, I think the original sunset is from the human world but when she was a little filly she got sent to the pony world. And, the sunset shimmer from the pony world lives far away and no one knows where she is, or that she even exists.
0 likesBtw you’re amazing
1 likeWhat if sunset didn't have a human form but a fish form because there was a fish who look just like sunset
0 likesI hope u make a theory about the new movie thats coming out
0 likesI don't think there's a human Sunset. Like human Starlight, she doesn't exist.
0 likesAs soon as he said: pony sunset shimmer could have killed human sunset" me imdietly " TO DARK"
0 likeswhat if the poney and human sunset switched places
0 likesIt may work for starlight glimer
0 likeshey i think what if the 5 other from the mane 6 from the other timelines are from the abandoned timeline
0 likesI believe there is a human sunset shimmer is out there and I think her life will be like Twilight sparkle.
0 likesAlso can you do the (pony of shadows) since Starswirl the beard and the main six sent him to another dimension. Just like the sirens where is the human pony of shadow?. 🤨🤨🤨🤨
My theory is that pony sunset is human sunset lmao
0 likesthe other way around
Well twilight did not go on rarity,pinkie pie and the other’s school and in the human world or Pony world
0 likesBut…
sunset and twilight was in the same school in the Pony world so sunset probably go’s to crystal hoof
Or she wasn’t the best so she moved to another school like she did in the human world kinda
wait… it isn’t friday after next 😟 im not complaining tho :))
1 likeIt’s not where she is.It’s when
0 likesMaybe she is a rasher, motorbike or car I am not sure but I think it suits her
0 likesMe at the start of the vid: maybe pony sunset killed human sunset😅 then at 1:30 I called it😂
0 likeswhat if oreginal human sunset DID die but not from sunset
0 likesRead comic ''sunset in the horizon'' in canterlotcomics
0 likesCould you plz make video about Luna’s cutie mark what the deal with the black splotch?
0 likesHi what don't Scootaloo parents look like her and it might be other words missing human pony that are not correct from destiny
1 likeWhat about human starlight?
0 likesSo if there isn’t a human sunset how could sunset exist
0 likesThey where going to make equestria girl's 5 and we would meet human sutset
0 likesMaybeSince it is the only oneBecause she might not come from Equestria because star light glimmer didn’t come fromThe equestrian so maybe since it just came from Equestria land human life and sort of
0 likesSUNSET SHIMMER PARADOX
0 likes1 week after the last upload
0 likeshe broke the law
Waluigi approved
0 likeswill u ever do a face reveal.
1 likeand i think theres a human sunset and i think what ever a theory you said
0 likesThis is what i was thinking. There is two mane six but not two sunset....
0 likesthis is my p.o.v of this i think that the human school represent ponyvill and we never saw sunset in ponyvill
0 likesso she from another place so human sunset is in another school. easy😏
Interesting 🤔
1 likeShe great hidden
0 likesI start to sing don't know do you know is essentially never met her
0 likesSawtooth i hab idea do a all timeline bilin how diy win, Do a nightmare moon how she win i now celestia will now she will be back in ponyville how celestia will win if she is in the moon i now it wont lass she will be free. And that how discord will win and see lona in the timeline.
1 likeI ever read a fanfic that human sunset exist and despise pony world sunset for stealing her identity and ended up killing pony sunset...
0 likesGood video
0 likesIf it has anything to with The Mandela Effect then the memories my put her someplace where pony sunset never was like in Back To the Future 2. Where their was docs and 2 mantys had to carefull about the that history them.
0 likesWow i never thought about that
0 likesCan you please make a remix to a better way to be bad
0 likesWhat about a Video about the Zap apples
1 likeOr scrambling the other half of the human Sunshine shimmer is probably at a different country plus like the other school of the human world of it besides we don't even know why I like Twilight was in a different School so probably Sunshine shimmer is at another country
0 likesThat's what I also thought
0 likesI have been thinking about it and your video came .
0 likesOoooorrrrrrrrr, what if she IS the human Version………
1 likeJkjkjkj.
Unless….
Maybe human sunset shimmer is in a coma
0 likes👍🏻👍🏻
0 likesthe captions :
0 likesI think they met
1 likeWhat about starlight glimmer
0 likesBende bunu düşünmekteydim. Hatta blogumda var
0 likesWhat about starlight
0 likes3:26
0 likesSo i think sunset is in a nother school i mean if human twilight Is in a nother school who said human sunset isn't in another school and there is also no human starlight so mean's that sunset and starlight maybe in the same school all i can say is that she is just like Twillight living her live in a nother school but she never go to the canterlot high school so she never meet the main 6
1 likecool
0 likes;-;
0 likesnot sunset my fav pony/human
No I don’t think so I believe that their is one sunset shimmer
0 likesCan you gayaeverfree video
0 likesAs she has not returned
that is OOD
0 likes3:30
0 likesHey wait a minute wait human stars will ? Please post
0 likesI don't think so there any human sunset simmers
0 likesMaybe Sunset shimer is the human Sunset shimer and the human Sunset shimer killed the pony Sunset shimer and took her place
0 likesi know right
0 likeswhat-ever happen with Adagio Dazzle, Sonata Dusk, and Aria Blaze evenly meet Human Adagio Dazzle, Human Sonata Dusk, and Aria Blaze evenly show so up.!? Whatta About Sunset Shimmer to find Human Sunset Shimmer.!? Which real Starlight Glimmer meet Human Starlight Glimmer... Just that total like Twilight Sparkle visiting Human Twilight Sparkle, especially Spike even see dog.!?
0 likesAre videos weekly now
1 likeLike matpat does
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no but im testing things out
1 like@Sawtooth Waves ok can you do a collab with matpat and make a childhood runining theory
1 like..... I like the ideas of the human sunset is dead or non existent. The human sunset could have been killed in a car accident since there are cars and many stupid ways to die besides murder
0 likesletters found full episode true and the rainbow kingdom
0 likesI think that the human world sunset likes to do evil things because the pony sunset was evil in the first equestria girls movie
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that doesn't mean the human Sunset would be evil :\
0 likeswhat the fuck are these cc's 😭😭😭
0 likesSunset do not has a human verssion
0 likesSo the is really helps me really
0 likesOmg
0 likesK-killed?
0 likesUm the pony sunset and the human is the same thing
0 likesAnd maybe when is she come and when she cahnge clothes they turn she with original
0 likesPourquoi ses cheveux sont différents dans les deux images et les lignes rouge et jaune
0 likesHey i think that music sunset was killed buy bad sunsuit . Bad sunset be good when twilight comes 🧐I am right or not
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Right
0 likesWi can't you make a real video like this
0 likeskinda a old vedeo so i don't why i bother, but.
0 likesage is a funny thing between the world Celestia and Luna are tousand years old but as there was no magic in the other they are women in there thirties.
while snip and snails are the age of the crusaders there the age of the main six in the other
and i could i sworn i noticed miss cake as a student while she is a mother in her late fourtees in the magic one
the human studentswe never seen a counter for in the pony world could also be young fouls or even elderly in the other.
I am not that into equestra girls but i got the impresion we never or rarely seen the homes or parents of the main 6.
So here is my take Sunset Shimmer 's human counter is the one that took her in and as a ..ahum more riper and possible maried women we would not recoinise her as life exprience made her into a total diffent person.
in short the real human Shimmer has a diffent age so they don't compeet with each other.
lol
0 likesNo sé que dice por que no se Inglés pero siempre tuve esa duda oztia
0 likesWas just thinking Abt this
0 likesWaoh
0 likesi really liked your idea about Sunsets cutie mark representing two halves of two worlds.
1 likei actually have my own theory about Sunset. while its shown that Sunset ran away to the human world from equestria in the comics. we see her immediately have no trouble walking on two legs and adapt to human ways of life so much quicker than Twilight did.
what if the Sunset we know was not born in equestria and instead is fully human and as a infant somehow fell through the mirror portal ending up in equestria as a unicorn, then raised by Princess Celestia,
She is quite academic, as shown when she went against human Twilight. I also like to think that she was the complete opposite to pony Sunset, being the way pony Sunset is now from the beginning in the human world.
2 likesShe could be out there, doing the things pony Sunset wanted from the very beginning, but got it the way Sunset abandoned - hard work, dedication, and developed healthy pride in that work. She could've followed in Starswirl's footsteps, like Twilight did with Celestia. But could've rebelled against him for a different reason - his stubbornness and selfishness. She learned about that and wanted to do better.
Sunset is shown to be smart, and even though less driven by academics, ambitious enough to keep up with them. She probably is a gifted student with a bad ego and musician on the side as a human counterpart.
0 likeswhat always comes in my mind is that most of the time sunset satisfies other ponies, that you can come as long as your doppelganger in other world is not there...like to starlight
0 likesOkay hear me out, my theory is she was expelled in middle school resulting in her leaving the city that housed both high schools.
1 likeShe most definitely still acts like first EG movie sunset, but worse. She never truly had friends and is completely controlling over the people in her life. She probably also tried to change her look to differentiate herself from pony Sunset.
Theory 2 of mine is that she is obsessed with figuring out who this imposter living her life in a different town, living a life she wishes was hers (let’s say that started during EGRR). She would try to change her appearance as to live a different separate life to what pony Sunset has.
She would still have controlling issues when it comes to people in her life, she might just shut herself in a home so no one can see her again. But something in the back of her mind is nagging her that she is the imposter and pony sunset is the real one (that would happen after EGFG).
Idk I’m bad at theories.
I'm inclined to believe that there is an equal pony/human counterpart, but given the number of characters exclusive to their respective worlds, I can also see that there may just not be equivalent versions in both worlds. Aside from the main casts, a handful of fan favorite background characters, and Flash Sentry, there's not a lot of crossover. Now this could just be because the creators weren't going to painstakingly recreate everyone, but it also would kind of rob each Universe of its individuality and history. Perhaps the stuff we see are all the crossover these universes actually have with one another. By pure happenstance, there are a number of people with similar traits at the exact same time in each universe. Is Principal Celestia really 1000 years old? I doubt it. We don't even know what the human world refers to the land they live on, do we? They certainly don't live in Homosapia (Unless they do?). Not to mention that with the lack of magic until recently, the entire world is completely different and its history would reflect that in every aspect. We may actually just have the One in a Million chance of converging similarities between these two universes for however long before they start more noticeably diverging.
0 likesI like the first theory the best. I like to imagine there was never a human sunset and that the sunset we know is the only one.
0 likestechnicaly, pillars brought magic to human world when they dumped sirens there, or whoewer threw that memory stone to there but that one did litteraly nothing until it was found while we could assume sirens were somewhat active
1 likealso, Sunset might just made original human Sunset leave area by some means, not neccessarily kill but that is more unlikely than that or that she lives just away from where is story centered
Honestly, I think we were always looking at the human Sunset Shimmer. If you really think about. She knew more about the human world then any other and she knew what she needed to rule over it. I think, she stumbled onto the portal as a young child. What a world to find where you could be a pony then just wanting one?! Celestia found her, took her under her wing, and basically watched her grow up after teaching her so much. She was the only one (other then Celestia) that knew about the portal as well because she already came out of it. Her " pony parents" could of adopted her after the Pony Sunset Shimmer vanished too. This would be their way of getting their child back and why they are constantly overbearing to her. Also, her being extremely smart, she knew she wasn't a pony, and thus why she lashes out. Over all, it might just be a childhood trauma she can never remember.
0 likesSunset's musical career did seem a bit farfetched. The majority of teenagers in our community know how to play an instrument, most commonly the piano or guitar, and let's be honest, everyone included in the main casts can sing well. It might have even been some sort of criteria for the voice actors to be able to sing. I have an idea though.
0 likesWhat if she DID follow into magic?
From the evidence we have, magic doesn't exist in the human world. Or.. maybe it does?? Perhaps it just isn't normalized like it is in the pony realm. Like in real life, there are many who believe magic exists, and we just don't have access to it. Sunset, driven by her thirst for power, could've easily gotten involved in cult activities or her own deep research.
If either of these possibilities are true, she could be stuck in limbo or even dead due to lack of understanding. It doesn't necessarily have to be near Canterlot High. We're supposed to consider CHS as the Ponyville of the human world and CPA as Canterlot, right? The human mane 5 had lived in Ponyville, and Twilight came from Canterlot due to Celestia's orders. There are the exceptional characters like the Principal of CPA and Cadence. But everything else does make sense. (Personally I feel like it would've made more sense for the Mayor of Ponyville to be the principal rather than Celestia but I think at the time the writers didn't even have CPA in mind so they put the pony with the greatest authority as the principal) Sunset however had no official background in the Pony world, we'd just assume she'd be from Canterlot or even as Sawtooth had previously mentioned in a different video, the same village Starlight and Sunburst. Still, we don't know where she was from, which means we can't pinpoint her counterpart's location.
I'm just saying, magic could very much exist in this dimension, just hidden away or even once again brought from another like the Memory Stone or the Sirens. And human Sunset would involve herself with it, but her impatience and pride would help lead to her own destruction; figuratively, of course, but it might just be realistic too-
The same question could be asked of Starlight Glimmer. Even Sunset had said she had never seen a human Starlight in the human world. So where is she?
1 likeI honestly feel like she may be the only one. Same with Starlight Glimmer. Maybe those two are connected in someway and one needs to be in the human world and one needs to stay in the pony world. That’s how I’ve always thought about it in my head and it makes sense!!
0 likesI don't think a human counterpart of Sunset exists. The first idea in the video makes a lot of sense I agree with that how she connects the two worlds which is also her destiny.
0 likesThis is the video is was waiting for! Thank you, Sawtooth!
0 likesI kind of like the idea that, human sunset somehow ended up in the pony world. Not a lot of logic to back it up but I think is an interesting concept.
0 likesI actually think she actually stayed at canterlot high. When pony sunset came she took her place and put her somewhere far away. I think she acted just like pre reformation sunset which is why people didn’t notice a major change. Thing is that I forget exactly where (maybe the friendship games) someone asks sunset about a human world version of her, and she says something along the lines of “you don’t want to know” or “it’s complicated” which means that she met or knew about human world sunset. Probably looking into her and what she does in secret, watching her until ready to take her place.
0 likesAh, yes it is always awsome to watch sawtooth's videos after school.
0 likesThis comment is completely irrelevant to the video, but I’d like to suggest another big question.
1 likeWhy is the element of magic twilight’s cutie mark, even years before twilight ever existed?
Whether you chock it up to destiny or not, it’s a question we’ve asked since the dawn of time, and it doesn’t help that it’s not just the element itself. The tree of harmony itself, for one. But there’s something else that could put the puzzle together. The spirit of harmony. Possibly the one putting the whole puzzle that is the show together, and taking a physical-ish form in the form of sparkly twilight (heh)
Or, maybe, it isn’t the spirit who takes twilight’s form, but twilight who takes the spirit’s form.
How? Well, let’s say the spirit of harmony saw the future, and was supposed to make it reality, by establishing the barer of the element of magic. Time passes, and eventually, it chose twilight sparkle. Why? Simply put, she was the best candidate. As for the others, they just fell into place, and the spirit of harmony could leave them alone, for the most part, but the barer of magic could not be messed up. One wrong move could send twilight the completely wrong path. So, the spirit manifested twilight’s body to match its own, albeit temporarily without the wings. Twilight could’ve originally looked a lot different, but because of the spirit, she looks the way she does today, even down to her cutie mark. Which speaking of, any appearances of twilight’s cutie mark wouldn’t be her mark, but the spirit’s mark.
I know, it’s a long shot, but it’s fun to think about. Although this headcannon could absolutely suck…
After they cancelled season 3, the creators confirmed that she doesn't have a human counterpart. Like Discord, she only exists in one world. But I wish they didn't cancel season 3 so that we could see her human counterpart and how she would've affected our Sunset's life. She would've probably went back to Equestria and leave the human world for the human Sunset. That would've been a sad but beautiful ending to the EQG series
0 likesA nice theory. If the humans version of Sunset Shinmer was to grab onto something I thinks it would have been something along the lines of politics. Her goal was power, its what drove her to extremes. Still being a teenager her political career would only just be starting.
0 likesI think maybe, since we've already seen the crystal empire and canterlot as schools where you meet most characters (even side characters) maybe there are other schools with more side characters only seen once or twice? like, a school for manehattan, fillydelphia, etc.
0 likesWe never really know where Sunset lived before her studies with Celestia, except for your theory of her being sunburst's brother, so maybe she was from another city, and that's where she lives now, for instance, since canterlot and the crystal empire are schools in the city/town/province/state/area, we can assume that equestria is that, I'm just going to say "area". so human sunset could live anywhere in "earth equestria" or the "area"
To support my theory that equestria is a certain area in the human world, canterlot is a big city in equestria, but the crystal empire is very far away from there, in the snowy atlantic or something, or at least was, showing how far away the two of them are. and in the human world, as said in the friendship games, crystal prep is "in the city" and it shows that human twilight took a bus to get to and from canterlot high, it shows that crystal prep and canterlot are far away. but they never show anywhere in between. so the other cities in equestria could either be schools in the human world or certain smaller areas near schools with names from places we hear in the show, friendship is magic.
If that theory is true, then sunset could be somewhere in the human world going to school/in an area where she lived in equestria BEFORE she met and studied with Princess Celestia.
However, if that were true, then like Twilight was drawn to canterlot and met the mane 5 and sunset in the friendship games, then fate would have it that sunset might hear about how well the students at canterlot high are doing academically, and she would go there to enroll or find the techniques, just like how pony sunset went to go to Celestia's school of magic to learn from her.
in conclusion, my theory about where human sunset is, is that she is a rich, near-snob who gets what she wants, but unlike pony sunset, she has the earthly means to do it, money. so she might not use violence, but she definitely isn't the nicest person. but she does seek knowledge and wants to learn as much as she wants, when she wants it. and she lives in an area/goes to school in where the equivalent of a big city in equestria is/would be like manehattan or somewhere like that.
If there are any flaws to my logic, please let me know, but I think I have a pretty basic idea of who human sunset is and where she lives/goes to school.
I’ve been asking this question for awhile and now you finally Astor answered it thank you
0 likesI don't think we've ever seen the yin yang symbol in equestria. If it doesn't exist in Equestria, that would most likely mean that Sunset's destiny was always to end up in the human world.
0 likesHey sawtooth have u ever wondered how the crystal ponies would look like in the human world or why ponies don’t use phones or why the humans are colourful and not normal skin tone? Also I love your videos!!!
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Ya I have
0 likesI have a theory that incorporates not only the human sunset but also the human version of Starlight, Sunburst, moondancer, and lightning dust. They are all students of Dodge Junction Reform School. And LD was the most recent to be sent there, as she was originally meant to represent crystal prep at the friendship games, but got expelled, so was replaced by her cousin indigo zap.
0 likesIf we go with the theory that Sunset was Sunburst's sister, then logically she would still be his sister in the human world... Sunburst/Starlight grew up in a place very far away from Canterlot and Ponyville, so the human-world equivalent of it should also be distant. So human Sunset is probably just... Too far away from Canterlot High for us to ever see her.
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if we're going by that, then that'd probably be close to where human Starlight is too, since there aren't actually cutie marks or anything in the human world (there are on clothing, but they don't seem to REALLY effect anything), Starlight would probably have stayed near there or something since there'd be no reason to start the village thing.
1 likethanks fiveever for posting a double upload sawtooth! this was a very interesting theory. i know i’ve thought about this before. nice work! 🖤🤍
0 likesWho knows?
0 likesThank you for this video.
I hope you stay well.
Well in the movie I’m pretty sure it took place in the crystal empire so maybe the human sunset went to crystal prep but dropped out to go for a music career and failed miserably which explains why human twilight wasn’t to shocked to see sunset in the games
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Human Sunset doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.
0 likesI like the idea of human Sunset studying science. Maybe she got so ambitious she took up on a dangerous experiment that costed her her life. Or at the very least disfigured her quite a bit. It would parallel how our Sunset took on dangerous magic that overwhelmed her and lead to disaster.
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She actually doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.
0 likesShe could’ve died of natural causes, been run over by a vehicle, fell down an elevator shaft, or any number of other ways. Hell, she could’ve been eating a cucumber, stepped on a rake, and got it jammed into the back of her throat causing her to choke to death. I’ve seen that on “100 Ways To Die”. Or she could’ve had some sort of accident that landed her into an irreversible coma.
0 likesHasbro: They're getting in too deep. Create a new series to throw em off.
1 likeThe Cutiemark theory seems plausible... But there's one thing we saw in an Equestria Girls Episode... We don't know for certain if that's THIS WORLD'S version of Sunset, it seems as though this copy of her was killed... So, the killing possibility is undetermined.
0 likesFor years i’ve always wondered why we haven’t seen the other sunset shimmer that is one of the biggest questions if there is another sunset I wonder how the pony sunset would react with she see’s other counterpart
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It was confirmed by the writers that Human sunset doesn’t exist.
0 likes@Terminator 156 that can’t be true it doesn’t make any sense we already have two twilight sparkles but we can get a sunset double ?
0 likesFor me it fells unnecessary to have another Sunset Shimmer.
0 likes@Terminator 156 But it would’ve been great to see another sunset because there cannot be only one there has to be another one
0 likesThere is also the theory that two people from two different universes cannot exist in the same spatial reality and the same interstitial plane. When sunset shimmer went to the human world, human sunset shimmer would be paused and fade from existence for as long as pony sunset shimmer or p.s.s for short was in the same interstitial plane, H.S.S. would return when P.S.S. left the human realm.
0 likesLove your videos and theories.
0 likesI love your theory. And if you want to make more videos, how about a video about My little pony a new generation? All the theories you could talk about. Think about it. It is a great idea.🦄❤️🎥🍿
1 likei have nothing to say except that sawtooths videos make my happy
1 like2:43 this is the best thing I've heard. Ever. Period.
0 likesLets hope someone finds a cameo!
2 likesI think that Sunset really could have removed her human self from Canterlot High, I think she could have sent away human Sunset on a bus/trip to a place she knew she herself wanted to go, a place where Human Sunset can be powerful and in charge of her surroundings (potentially so she can get more info on the human world, and so that they can be pen pals like Tirek and Cozy Glow)
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
0 likesYeah, I heard that they were going to explain Sunset's counterpart with a future special, but.... Well. The series ended! Sucks.
0 likesY'know, I have been thinking up some of the EqG versions of some of the villains, like if King Sombra and the Storm king are crime leaders and Tirek was an old enemy of Principal Celestia who may be related in some way to Principal Cinch
0 likesFINALLY!! Thanks Sawtooth❤️ I AM THE BIGGEST MLP FAAAAN! I requested this a few months ago😅
1 likeI'm just waiting for Hasbro to do it themselves.
0 likesI’d Rather Watch Sunset’s Past Then The New My Little Pony
1 likeI always knew something was fishy with sunset , also because the series of EG finished with no ending . That made me think but did sunset go to the human world or the pony world? We only know in the first EG movie, sunset shimmer after being defeated stayed in the human world , but nothing else.
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist .
1 like@Terminator 156 thank you for the answer.
0 likesOMG FINALLY SOMEONE COVERS IT
0 likesYou're kind of right Sawtooth Sunset mentioned She's not a Monster when Twilight from the Pony World assume Sunset was gonna harm Spike with a sledge hammer so she wouldn't Murder Human Sunset
0 likesYou know, if Starswirl is supposedly dead in the human world, just another famous dead scientist like Isaac Newton, then it's also possible human Sunset died of some other cause before pony Sunset got there. If human Starswirl is dead, then the two worlds don't need matching characters everywhere. They can live one without sharing them. So, maybe human Sunset died as a fated experience so pony Sunset could take her place and link the worlds as a balancer. So the theory that there was a human Sunset existed and died can still make sense, just that we all know pony Sunset was never cruel enough to commit murder
0 likesholy buck, this just made my week, this just made me think more than I did at school in the past WEEK
0 likesIt's also entirely possible that human Sunset Shimmer had passed away, perhaps from an illness or accident or something of that nature when she was much younger and after several years and Equestrian Sunset Shimmer arriving in the human world as a teenager, that would explain why no one who may have known human Sunset all those years ago doesn't even recognize her.
0 likesA bit of a dark and tragic theory, believe me I know, but it does seem entirely plausible as well.
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It was actually confirmed the not everyone from the pony has a counterpart so that includes Sunset.
1 likeI think Human Sunset ran away to the pony world the same time pony Sunset ran away to the pony world. As for how Human Sunset knows about said world, She discovered the portal by accident while resting near the statue
1 likeI don’t think she would have killed her, and maybe she would have been a scientist or something, or maybe want power instead of musical talent, but I like the last theory and YES!!!!!! SOMEONE FINALLY THINKS OF THIS!!!!!!!! YES, SAWTOOTH!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!
0 likesI think, like certain TV shows, there might not have ever been a different version of Sunset. Not because the pony one might have killed her, but because the pony world has a different timeline to the human world, So Sunset’s parent’s might not have had her. Or, if they did have her, she might look a lot different. That’s just what I was thinking though, I might be totally wrong!
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Coming back and re-watching this and looking in the comments again has made me notice I can’t remember anything because I don’t remember ever having this theory
0 likesI think there is a lot more truth to "Human Sunset may not exist" than you think, Sawtooth Waves. For example we not know if there is a human Starlight Glimmer, Pipsqueak, Sandbar or etc... We also do not know if there are pony versions of many EQG characters like Juniper Montage, Vignette Valencia, Abacus Cinch or etc... And now that the series ended we may never know. We also may never know if there are other cities other than the one where the EQG series takes place in, compared to what we saw beyond Equestria's borders, such as the Dragon Lands, Griffonstone, or Mount Aris.
0 likesI think the human world runs on chaos theory and by chance the OG Sunset Shimmer (The Other Sunset Shimmer (Human)) was never born. Another idea may be the forbidden spell used to teleport Sunset Shimmer to the human world may have thanosed the OG human Sunset Shimmer in the process (pre-portal)
0 likesWhat if Sunset was originally from the human world, but was taken to Equestria when she was first born?
0 likessawtooth is like the film theory for mlp
0 likesIf human Sunset is human Starburst’s sister, then without magic, she would still be in the human world village with human Starlight. That explains why no one has ever seen human Starlight at Canterlot High
0 likesCould this be the lead to a 3rd season? 😲
0 likesIs no one still gonna talk about when Sunset talked to Snips & Snails about that “other girl” in like I think the first Equestria girls?!
0 likesI prefer the Winningverse's Sunset Shimmer who ran away from Equestria and became the Grand Mage of the island nation of Freeport.
0 likesIf she did have a human counterpart, wouldn’t she have come through the portal to Equestria with human world weapons? Applying your theory, could she have perhaps designed a formula for a nuclear bomb or a cyber weapon?
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
0 likesTerminator 156 That’s not necessarily true. That only means that at least one pony does not have a human counterpart, but it could still be true if any human were missing.
0 likesomg this was on my mind today. you are a mind reader...
1 likeMaybe she's living with Eda, Luz and King on the Boiling Isles
0 likesRemember your theory about Sunset being Sunbursts sister. Wooden that mean she'd live in the Human version of Siders Halo
0 likesI got a crazy theory! What about the Alternate version of Groger behind the mirror!
1 likeCan Lauren Faust Please Make Starswirl Go Into The Human World? I Bet You That Human Twilight Would Have A Stroke. Maybe He'd Act As Ridiculous As Our Twi In Equestria In The First EG Movie. That Would Be The @Best Gift Ever!
0 likesImagine the real human Sunset actually exist except in a false identity after finding out another sunset had taken over her school. As much she want to stop the other Sunset she realize she can do anything and lives as a different person. Like, what you said if Sunset talent is actually singing and thTs what Real Sunset does.... She might have ran away and become a different person. Who knows shes already faraway from where she used to be and gone by a new name.
0 likesActually Sunset Shimmer doesn’t have a counterpart in the human world confirmed by the creators.
1 likeIsaac Newton WAS a wizard in the anime series of Escaflowne!
0 likesjust imagine sunset being carzy over boys in the human world lol😆😆
0 likesThank You for posting this this is theory I was thinking about it The past few nights
0 likesAh yes, My Little Pony Friendship is Science
0 likesI think I solved sombra he has a curved horn like mistmane and we saw there was a whole village of ponies with curved horns I think sombra stararted as normal one but as he grew bigger he got some kind of greed and darkness took over him just like nightmare moon
0 likesI have a odd question why didn't princess celestia make the other main 6 alicorns?
2 likesNext Theory. Where’s Human Starlight Glimmer?
0 likesMaybe in the human world Sunset could be with her brother Sunburst & Starlight maybe, but they live in a different city or live in the same city Human Twilight does but in a very different area.
1 likeThe best sunset theory ever
0 likesIt's obvious, she ended up in Equestria!
0 likeswhat if she was a student at sci twi old school. maybe she didn't go to the friendship games because she was too busy with her musical dream
0 likesWhen Sunset Shimmer first came to the human world and saw the human world Sunset
1 likeOur Sunset "Are you like, me?"
Human Sunset "Are YOU me?"
Our Sunset "Yeah, that ain't happenin', sister." pushes human Sunset through the portal and sends her to the moon prison
Our Sunset "That takes care of that..." walks away
The End
If the second theory is true, then one would have to wonder what would happen if both Sunsets crossed paths somehow.
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
0 likesi dont think there is a human sunset at least not when sunset moved to the human world tell now. for one none of the other humans really knew anything about her she is the type to be a bit of a bully as a human, that being said i think others would have know of her at the school or around the town even before she showed up from equestria. so i dont really think there is any human sunset, plus if your going back as far as star swirl it has all ready been proven by the comics which are cannon with the cartoon as far as i know that star swirl went to the human world in the past and did stuff there, what he did im not sure about, but i think the star swirl in equestria is the one shown in the statue. thus being there is only one star swirl, i think sun set is the same as star swirl in that respect.
0 likescome to think of it, since there must be a human Starlight and she isn't at CHS or CPA; and considering what the pony Starlight has done, and to an extent continued to do; then what IS the human Starlight doing? and did this world's Celestia and Luna also have a fight? they clearly have a rivalry. except their fights didn't end in attempted murder.
0 likesI was also wondering why sunset doesn't have a counter part
0 likesThe idea I always had was that she probably was a lot like pony sunset was in the first equestria girls except no secret motives and she’s just a bully at some other high school. Though I like your idea too.
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
0 likes@Terminator 156 okay.
0 likesWell in that human world 1902 French adventure short film directed by Georges Méliès, A Trip to the Moon,is real history, I think!
0 likesThe movie has changing, the Selenites!
Or she's a Changeling who came to the human world and became a good Changeling. Or Celestia "made" her lol 😂.
0 likesFinally I have been requesting this since forever~~
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Same sis
0 likesOr, she could even be in Equestria...
0 likesAwesome and cool!
0 likes"Why havent we seen her?"
1 likeme:"cuz that will be another/new movie
And Why Still Ask Hasbro To Give Actual Proper Finale
0 likes"sunset might've killed human sunset"
1 likethat was legit what I thought when I was 7 lmao
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist
0 likes@Terminator 156 It does not because they didn't say which ones did not have one (didn't read what the people that made it said but I feel as though I am right
0 likesWhat if the human sunset went to another world like pony sunset?
0 likesWow I did not think this through The Sunset I know that I'm in love with is a pony form thinking about the about the human version of her are just 2 sunset's
1 likeIn my vr game for quests there's a quest called hidden potential where human sunset shimmer told you this hey big guy I know you have equestrian magic and tenkai energy so how about you combine it in battle and the objective is to complete the mission called equestikai powerstorm where in a cutseen you get bombarded by exsplosives and then a giant arm grabs the boss gina and shows my oc brand new equestrian tenkai hybrid form which is the same size as tirek at full power and then show how powerful by firing the catalsmic cannon attack at the mane 7 destroying the rainboom chance of attack and the mission ended with you showing your new form to oddsquard and get promoted to juggernaut
1 likeWhere does sunset shimmer really belong:equestria or the human world?
1 likeSame thing could be asked about starlight
0 likesWhat If The Human Sunset Shimmer and the Pony one are one and the same?
0 likesI always question this but i have a theory that maybe human sunset go to the pony world like pony sunset go to the human world so that's why we never see human sunset because she is not in human world but she is in pony world
1 likeBeautiful🤗😁😚😎
1 like"so where is she if she was driven by pride and ambition?"
0 likesMe:hmmm politics? .... Maybe she is the popular girl? Orrr science just out of pride that she understands it and others don t? Ooor she is interested in economy... Or-
Sawtooth :thats right.... mUsIc
Me:???
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
0 likesI've been waiting for this video foreverrrrr!!!!!!!!
0 likesI actually like to think that there never was a human Sunset Shimmer. Not everypony from equestria has a human counterpart, and there's a chance that there just wasn't one to begin with. How else could she have so seamlessly integrated into the human world?
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That was confirmed by the creators from I hear.
0 likesLook this may sound absord but what if the Sunset we know is the real human Sunset that, somehow, ended in Equestria as a baby, meaning there's two Sunset in Equestria for a time being. One having a normal life with her família, and the other living with Celestia since She doens't have parents. Só the human Sunset end up in Equestria, was raízed by Celestia, and Run away to the human world. Meanwhile the pony Sunset live her life without complications
0 likes7 geodes and 6 elements, think about it
0 likesWell I think that there is a human sunset shimmer somewhere in the human world
0 likesThat question gone in my head 2
1 likePlot twist: human Sunset live in Japan and flunked out of UA high school and became a villain to get revenge on the hero’s that kicked her out.
1 likeThat sounded more like a fan fiction a really cool one, someone use my idea if you want to!
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.
0 likesGOD DAMMIT SAWTOOTH-
0 likesI always just though she was dead in the human world or something. A bit dark for a kids show though.
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I just thought she lived on the other side of the world
0 likesThis gave me avatar vibes ngl
0 likesWhat if the replaced sunset shimmer and the original human one became a pony somewhere else
0 likesWait if Sunset Shimmer is the older sister of Sunburst.... if Sunburst in your other theory was the Sunburst from equestria then what if assuming they do have split up parents...... if sunsets parents is her and sunbursts mom and they share a different dad...... what if her dad never met her mom therefore she never existed in the human world to begin with BECAUSE OF PONY SUNSET MESSING IT UP WITH MAGIC FROM EQUESTRIA
0 likesDo a Theory about Groger
0 likesShe got dumped into the mouse world...
0 likesWhat would human nightmare moon look like
0 likesEveryone knows sunset as mean. And I don’t think human world sunset would be mean because before pony sunset ran away she was nice. Maybe she just lives really far away
0 likesMaybe the human sunset went too the pony world threw a different portal when ours came too the human world
0 likesMaybe she just doesn’t live near the mane 7 so there’s no need to introduce her to them
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She actually doesn’t exist.
0 likes@Terminator 156 every pony has a human counterpart
0 likesThe writers confirmed it.
0 likes@Terminator 156 oh fair enough then
0 likesWait.. What if when shes young she goes to the haman portal Becuase we still dont know who her parents are. And thats how she knows...
0 likeswhy did (EQG) Twilight get Wings = allicorn
0 likeswhen she go to Equestria sHe was a normal unicorn
You are the best youtuber
0 likes*Greetings to all*✋
Everyone Is asking Is there human sunset
0 likesBut nobody Is asking how Is human sunset...
Anyway nice video
Meanwhile human Starlight:
0 likesYES LET'S G O
0 likesMaybe Human sunset found a portal and somehow traveled to another pony universe?
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She actually doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.
0 likes@Terminator 156 oh- oof
0 likes“Killed the human sunset”
0 likesMe: HUH?!
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1 like@Terminator 156 ok-
0 likesTy
I think there is but maybe she died or moved away to somewhere else
0 likesand starlight is our biggest witness as she visited human world only once that's why human world did not get time to create human starlight
0 likesi was boutta say sunset prob pulled sum yuno gasai shit and then u mention that that couldve happened WBAHWJAJ
0 likesI was thinking what is human sunset knew about pony sunset and saw her go through the portal and now is hide and living in ponyvill
0 likesThe killing of human shimmer could be a possibility
0 likesi think human sunset escaped into hte pony world by accident
0 likesAnd more thing to the sunset thing sunset is the only one with a first name a middle name and a last name
0 likesSun set shimmer
what if human sunset is living in equestria now? discuss.
0 likesSo if there is human sunset than there most be a human starlight glimmer or screwball
0 likesThere was a human star swirl????
0 likesHuman Sunset is in jail. 😇
0 likesYay a video on my birthday 😁
0 likesya cutie mark theory is interestin. 🐸 bro hoof
0 likesWhat if HUMAN SUNSET WAS ATUALLY EQUESTRIA SUNSET she could of got yeeted into pony world and Clestia looked after her weird theory but whatever its cool!
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0 likeshere's an easy answer
0 likeshuman world sunset caused just as much trouble as pony sunset but because they didn't have the magic to send her to another dimension human sunset is in prison
tadaaa
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0 likeshuman starlight-
0 likesSunset meets sunset 😈
0 likesOur regular sunset shimmer is human and pony there is not separate sunset shimmer for human world
0 likesShe possibly dissolved
0 likesI think the human world Sunset Shimmer hasn’t been born yet. So the question might be when not where
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1 likeI think the human starlight would be in another country. Because pony starlight lives in a village that seems British for me for some reason? Maybe wherever human sunset lives is in another country! Even though I think the place human mane 6 lives in America. I think...
1 likeI think the human Sunset lives in the pony world
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0 likesI think there is a human sunset shimmer
0 likesYup, human Sunset is dead. If pony Sunset didn't kill her, she made her kill herself or something dark and scary like this.
0 likesAnd what is with starlight?
0 likesI think the human sunset IS the sunset pony because she just originally went for twilightd crown?
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0 likesAnd Starlight Glimmer other world?
0 likesShe died from gang violence
0 likesI have had an idea about this topic, if you’re curious about what that idea is, then you just have to ask for me to explain.
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist .
1 like@Terminator 156 hm, yeah, that surely would be a rather indirect way to confirm that Human Sunset doesn’t exist, but since it’s indirect, it still doesn’t stop us from think of ideas that could still be possible.
0 likesOkay My theorie it's kinda possible but not likely:
0 likesHuman Sunset We don't see in eg because she isn't there. She is in Equestria! She find a natural portal to Equestria and travel there. What happened after she got there? There is a possibility to she followed the same story as Pony Sunset. Being evil and after a realize the magic of friendship she got to good. But then she have a magic demon from or not, and if she have why we never heard of? What is Human Sunset find a portal BUT it's not a portal to Equestria. It's only portal to the Pony word (it's weird to call when a talking about she travel a place where is probably don't live ponys). And that's why we never heard about her demon from. We see it Equestria not really give attention to outside word. They not even know about the storm king. So it's possible her magical fight new didn't reached Equestria. Or if she doesn go to Equestria then can be it's was a offscrean friendship problem. This version also don't have demon from.
What do you think about it? Also ty for made a full video about a question what I ask before in this channel. I really appreciate you :3
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0 likes@Terminator 156 it's not confirmed. If the creator said Human Sunset not exist then it's confirmed. But ty for telling me I didn't know that.
0 likesI don't know man, she might be trying to start a political careere, and be studying abroad or smtn
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0 likesI am late AGAIN, “darn it, school”
0 likesI hope the pony sunset didn't kill human sunset and took her place
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0 likesHuman sunset shimmer and starlight gov to a different school somewhere else in the human World.
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0 likes@Terminator 156 maybe sunset shimmer and starlight are special characters in my little pony
0 likesIt could be possible but we will never know
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0 likesCould you like talk about G5
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I don’t think he wants to.
0 likeswoah it hasn’t been 2 weeks yet pogggg
0 likesCool
1 likeEquestria girls season 3 sunset shimmer 🤔🤔
0 likesOmg whyyyyyy i am always an hour late!😭
0 likesred and yellow yin and yang
0 likesIt is posiple that it is only one sunset becaus in my feuther dreams i am aparentely born in 3 tiferent Worlds one of them is equestria but it is only one of me so the chans that it is only one sunset is bigger than it seams.
1 likeEarly and everyone wants this
0 likesmaybe...she is dead... before sunset even came in to the human world...form a diesis or some thing...
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0 likesI have been asking for this
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0 likesTwoset shimmers
0 likesI'd say nope
0 likesGoogle said at CANTERLOT LAKE
0 likesHuman world have may not magic to study but the means 7 of the human world is magical and sunset shimmer one song episode sea flying to sunset
0 likesTRUE
0 likesYesterday was my birthday
0 likesI have also thinking about that to
0 likesThis is weird obvs
1 likeIts different
1 likeYes
1 likenext friday
1 likeletters found
0 likesyay good job bartleby you must together no problem yeti you sing letters don't forget ok let's go glummy hey glummy oh hello there please g glummy g glummy glu glu glu glu glu glu glu glu oh of course now special too be first mine idea let's craft! ok
0 likesYes
0 likesYes
0 likesYes
0 likesHi sawtooth wavs
0 likesSunset shimmer kill the human sunset shimmer when she was evl
0 likesyou are so so so so crazy
1 likeWhat if human Sunset became a politician an is trying to become president
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0 likesBot if it like thise then where is starlight human and why one of sirens look like starlight
0 likesI have no idea lol
0 likesI did have my name as mlp is best in paper .io lol
Yes
0 likesYes
0 likesIt’s amazing how you keep finding new(ish) and interesting video topics even though the show’s been over for quite a while now
2 likesI've always wondered about this topic as well , I think you're onto something about the whole "there's no original Human Sunset , only one Sunset who's destiny is to bring the two worlds together" , the theory about her offing the original if there was one is pretty dark ( though there has been a lot of dark things in MLP ) maybe one day we'll get a answer ? it's just such a fascinating topic to me !
0 likesOh , love your videos by the way ^^
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0 likesThis video has a lot of great points and I like Sawthooths ideas, but here's another one. one with probably no evidence at all, so don't take it too seriously. What if human sunset, like pony sunset traveled through realities and now is in Equestria and is just chilling or hiding. think about it, we have never seen human sunset and we know that there are other portals to Equestria like the quicksand one. What if she found one of those portals and now is living as a pony in Equestria or even outside of Equestria. Just a fun thought 😋
0 likesMy thought was always that HW Sunset was still Celestia's student in some way. Maybe in an old school or before she became the principal. Like EQ Sunset, HW Sunset was doing something shady or wrong and Celestia gave her a final chance. Maybe EQ Sunset took her place in that moment. Or maybe HW Sunset was expelled from her middle school, only for EQ Sunset to be the one to attend Canterlot High.
0 likesThis is exactly one of the things I wondered, but could you imagine if Star swirl the bearded entered the human world and dropped dead because he was already dead there? You noticed we've never seen anyone Dead from the Pony world actually be in the human world, I have a feeling that even their life forces are connected through the portal.
0 likesPlz read this Sawtooth!
Doesn't really fit with the context of the video but after watching your How Sombra lost his wings video I had this thought wanted to commented there but since the video is almost a year ago I assumed that you wont see it but I really want an explanation from you!
1 likeAs you said in the video (How Sombra lost his wings) and it did actually happened in the series- that Cozy lost her alicorn form because all the magic (from all 3 tribes) she absorved was taken back by Grogar's bell, therefore changing her back into her "natural form" pegasus . But when Celestia, Luna, Candace, & Twi's magic were taken by Tirek why did their alicorn form was still there? All of them weren't naturaly alicorns ( as we theorized)
It's also possible that Equestria Sunset made human Sunset 'disappear'.
0 likesI think you're right and she wouldn't have killed her counterpart, but I don't think it was beneath her to get her out of the way by other means if she was too close and might cause complications for her.
I like the idea of original human Sunset being a failed musician, and I think that she decided to cut herself off from the world to focus on bettering herself, and ultimately making a musical comeback.
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0 likesOr we should instead ask ourselves whether the human Sunset is the original one, and there is another Sunset in Equestria?
0 likesI want Sawtooth to think about it!
Though i love Sawtooth's theory (as always lol)
is it just me or is there something in common with sunset shimmer and cosy glow? think about it, sunset shimmer was celestia's pupil and cosy glow is twilight's pupil. they both abandoned their studies and pursued their own paths and wanted magic and power. maybe later, cosy glow is freed from stone ( i don't know how, maybe grogar?) stumbles her way into the human world and decides she likes it there and being a pegasus she won't have any trouble when it comes to the world not having magic, and seeing as before friendship didn't work for her twice, she turns into a bully, and then she goes back to equestria and by then she'll probably be older now, so she takes luster dawn's something ( i'm not sure what, but if the main 6 had the elements then maybe luster dawn and her friends in ponyville has something similiar.) and goes back wanting magic because you know, she literally tried to drain all the magic from grogar's bell, and then luster dawn goes there and cosy glow turns into a demon and then luster dawn finally teaches her about the true meaning of friendship.
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i just realised how long that was.
0 likesSame as with human Twilight:
1 likeShe just lives a bit furher than others. Looking at ponies and their human counterparts we can see that canterlot high and near soroundings are mirroring Ponnyville and it's soroundings :3
Twilight that didn't oryginaly live in Ponnyville and her counterpart was living in Crystal Prep so we can guess that it could be the same for Sunset.
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0 likesI believe that the original human sunset left to another world, I feel she would be like pony Sunset and Human twilight. A prideful scientist that wanted more and left to another world.
0 likesNow i wanna see a human flurry heart
2 likesLove your videos can't wait for more
1 likeCan you pls make more vids about the multiverse I love those they are very interesting
2 likesWhat if sunset's parents found the portal to equestria and passed through?
0 likesWe don't have an exact on how long it's been around and we cant really say that everyone in the human world has an equestria counter part 🤷♀️
I think it was stated that Sunset doesn't have a counterpart because the creators wanted sunset to be her own person
0 likesIn the scrapped eqg finale, Human Sunset Shimmer is said to have been displaced when Pony Sunset opened the portal for the first time. Its likely that human Sunset had been in equestria the whole time. my best guess as to how, is that she was leaning on the statue when the portal opened, fell in, and was unable to go back after the portal closed.
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I’ve heard something that the creators said Sunset doesn’t have a human counterpart.
0 likesEvery since your new video comes out I wait for your next one because all of them are soooo good and I was just wondering when will you start making videos on mlp g5 ??
1 likeHey Sawtooth waves i have a theory for you.
1 likeWhy is it that when tirek drained the flight out of pegasi they couldnt fly
That doesnt make any sense you cant just take flight from something thats has two good wings and has already learned how to fly think of i as a bird learning to fly once it has learned it cant be taken the only way how is by an injured wing
Why is it that pegasi can just have there flight taken away?
I still believe that Sunset killed her reflection.
0 likesThere are some parts that show her room and I don't think that a teenager girl world could pay an apartment or something like that.
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0 likesI love your EG theories keep it up
0 likesInteresting theory there is finally a time travel less video by sawtooth.
0 likesthank you for once answering a question that I asked :)
1 likeDo someone have the link of the sunset shimmer comic ? At 3:33
1 likeI want to read it so bad 0
I have two guesses
0 likes1. She's literally just off somewhere else doing some shit while her pony counterpart is being a magic girl.
2. If she is actually Sunburst's sibling, maybe Firelight and Stellar Flare got married instead of Stellar Flare and Solar Wind/Firelight and whoever Starlight's other parent is. This could also explain why there's no appearance from Human Starlight either. We know from the Rarijack/Appledash debacle that different pairings can be canon in the two worlds. Plus some people ship Stellar Flare and Firelight.
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0 likes@Terminator 156 The creator is Lauren Faust and I'm pretty sure that she left before Rainbow Rocks. Also my second theory literally would mean that Sunset was never born because her parents didn't get together.
0 likesAh yes the EGQ might have 2 sunset shimmer theorising this as we saw in the movie that twilight also had 1 ”clone”, in fact everyone one in the mlp universe has a “clone” in the EGQ universe and also that is the reason that twilight said it’s risky to go in the EGQ to her friends in the first movie
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0 likesI always thought that maybe the Sunset of the human world found a way into Equestria and now lives somewhere there. Like Sunset switches from Pony to human, why shouldn’t the other one switch from human to pony?
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0 likesI love this channel ❤️
0 likesOkay, can I ask why human twilight have wings when she pony up ?
0 likesMy Man Sawtooth giving Hasbro ideas.
0 likesI was literally thinking about this when this video came 😂
1 likeI tend to assume they all have human counterparts. But #1, they could live literally anywhere in the world. I suppose you could run into yourself amongst 7 billion people, even if they lived across the globe from you, but it’s highly unlikely. And #2, as with Star Swirl, we see that the timelines between the worlds aren’t a 1:1 match necessarily, nor are the circumstances. Human Sunset could’ve lived and died under normal circumstances long ago.
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The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world.
0 likesWasn’t aware of that, thanks! In that case, I like the idea of Sunset tying the two worlds together.
0 likesHi i love your channel ❤❤ i draw bronys loads your the one that introduced me to pony theorys
0 likesMaybe The Original Human Sunset is the exact opposite of Sunset Shimmer, before she became good. Maybe The Original Human Sunset is happy and has her own group of friends in another school. She might be the opposite because The Original Human Twilight was the opposite of Pony Twilight. While Pony Twilight had her friends and was loved by almost everyone, Sci-Twi was alone, friendless and kind of hated by almost everyone.
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Ooooo good theory
0 likeswhat about starlight though? we haven't seen her human counterpart either
0 likesFinally some good content
0 likesFor me i Always thought she was One of A Kind and there was no Counterpart thats how i have felt for years now they were planning to show her couterpart in a 5th Movie but never did and the movie was never Made or Released so for me i don't think there is one if there is then where has she been for years?
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0 likesThere is a possibilty that human Sunset was never exist in the first place. I mean, not all humans have pony counterparts, and so does the reversal. So, the pony Sunset is the only Sunset that exists in both worlds.
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That’s exactly what the creators said.
0 likesYes finally my question and theory about the human sunset shimmer
0 likesI've always believed human world Sunset goes to Crystal Prep and that's why we don't see her. Or at least she started going there after Sci-Twi transferred to Canterlot High and took her spot
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0 likesI'm a fan of the "sunset is pony Avatar" theory
0 likesI have a question?
1 likeWhat would the human Sawtooth Waves look like hmmm 🤔
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i shudder to think
0 likes@Sawtooth Waves Maybe like a bug or a deer
0 likesThis is littrally what I was thinking when the first equestria girls vid came out btw love your channel
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1 like@Terminator 156 ok
0 likeswhat would happen if some people from the human world went to equestria? world it affect equestria as there is magic?
0 likesWhat about starlight glimmer she's talented at magic
0 likeshere's a theory... sunset left equestria... so it's simple! the human senset left for an other country or she is in equestria!!
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1 likeI was literally thinking about this The other day and I was about to ask this
0 likesShe kills the original one and hide the body somewhere and took the place
1 likeI think there was a human sunset, died, and when pony sunset came to the human world, someone must have recognised her, told her parents, and ofc they didn't think much of it at first, because theyr only daughter cane back to life. This is the only logical explanation, as sunset has a house, and there is no way sunset would know how laws, money, and how things work in this dimension. I like to believe that sunset told them that she is not the sunset they knew, and they felt sad at first, but came to accept it. Also, in the song "my past is not today" you see sunset as a kid in the pictures, most people will think that is pony sunset, but i believe that the first two pictures are human sunset when she was a kid, and the third is pony sunset, that also help us understand that human sunset parents weren't around or weren't good parents, this is why human sunset was as bad as pony sunset, you know, the environment changes the kid.
0 likesEdit: earlier i said that human sunset parents are not good parents, let me correct that.
I believe human sunset parents have jobs that require then to leave home for long periods of time, i believe that is why human sunset turned out this way, because she didn't have her mom and dad to teach her things like love and friendship, and when they god wind that sunset died from an accident or something, they were devastated. When pony sunset came, they had new hope, maybe they thought that god give them another chance, they didn't question it, As they didn't care. But because human sunset became like that for lacking of parental guidance, pony sunset was hungry for power, and theyr relationship was not good.pony sunset probably told them to leave her alone, and they, as they got another chance to see her and not wanting to lose sunset again, started going back to theyr jobs, this is probably why you don't see sunset parents, even tho she has a nice house, and as i said before, there is no way for sunset to buy or obtain such a nice house, a motorcycle, and all other stuff.
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0 likes@Terminator 156 fuck. This would have been a way better story.
0 likesI got a darker one, sunset didn’t kill her human counter part but maybe she did something to her where she would never be found again.
0 likesi like to think alternate Sunset is a politician xD
0 likesTbh I think the writers just didn't think it trough 😂
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1 likeI think she studied in the crystal prep, cinch built her up like celestia promising her a bright future, sunset eventually got very full of herself and dropped out thinking she was too good for crystal prep. There was no portal she knew about so she just stayed mad, bitter and unfulfilled.
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0 likes@Terminator 156 false. they said the last eqg tv special they planned was gonna be about human sunset, pony sundet somehow got rid of her w magic and wanted to fix it. But they scrapped it. It was gonna be the finale
0 likesBelle Noire: If it didn’t happen that means it’s not canon and I’m glad it didn’t happen because it’s unnecessary and it would be bad for Pony Sunset because she loves the human world and the friends she has and will have to leave if the Human Sunset was there.
0 likes@Terminator 156 nothing's really canon on this topic and yeah it would be difficult to solve that situation. The creators just didn't go there anyway so.
0 likesAWESOME VIDEO!
1 likeDid you know that Furlry heart may be the only Alicorn born in Equestria but who said that she could be one of the many alicorns born in the cristal empire.
1 likeBecause in the Cirstaling episode we an a female Alicorn and a unicorn how is the father and then we a baby unicorn on the vase that shows the history of the cristaling
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that vase was depicting the characters we already know. one of the alicorns is twilight, the other is cadance. the unicorn father is shining, and the mane six are also present. im guessing the vase was recently made as a promotional thing
0 likesWow really like the idea sawtooth nice
0 likesHiiii love ur vids besides I like the theory that she connects the different realms
2 likesI just think that there are some ponys that don't have a human counter part and humans that don't have a pony counter part. For example Starlight Glimmer doesn't have a human counter part and we never see some students from Cantetlot High in Equestria. (P.S. I know I have bad spelling and may have spelled some stuff wrong so please don't point that out.)
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That was actually confirmed by the creators from what I hear.
1 likeIs funny becouse, atleast for me, im so use tho have Sunset in the human world from equestria girls, that sometimes is strange to remember that she is originaly a pony from equestria!
0 likesPor fin, quiero saber eso
0 likesMY MIND IS BLOWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2 likesThe closed captions are completely unreliable see ya when I can watch this with sound 🧎
0 likesEdit: helo
i can’t relate more to this video. i been thinking about this ever since that i know about eqestria girls ,i though that human sunset is eather dead bc of muder or some kind of that stuff or she moved to somewhere else no one knows about it other way is got drove nuts bc fail of her music or drove nuts bc of lonelyness, i been there so it could be possible well there is a chance there is only one sunset like sawtooth said but Sawtooth i suggest you to ask ask @The Nameless ( i apology if i am spelling wrong)he might just know something about this
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sorry it’s supposed to be @The Nameless one, my sister deleted that part i’m sorry
0 likesWill we ever get a Sawtooth face revel?
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my face is in every video!
0 likes🤣🤣🤣
0 likesNobody:
1 likenobody ever:
Sawtooth: "...alternate sunset shi-"
Captions: aUdItIoN sAlMoN!salmon!
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MINE SAYS “Audition salmon and dual” XDDD
1 likepride and ambition? wanting to be better than everyone? sounds like your average politician
0 likesNo one noticed that this time he uploaded a new video after 1 week not 2 weeks
2 likesAhh, Isic neten, The last of the wizards.
0 likesactually as far I know creators confirmed somwhere that Sunset 's human counterpart just doesn't exist thats why we never saw her human version because her human version never existed I heard not evryone have their counterpart in human/pony world
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Do you have proof of this?
0 likes@Terminator 156 i saw on wikia on trivia that not evryone have their counterparts and also on trivia was mentioned that creators confirmed that her human version doesnt exists also people were somwhere telling about this but now trivia on Wikia is erased lol I will try to find links for exact confrimation
0 likeslike for real this frickin trivia was talking about it i have to find it lmao
0 likesHow often do u post ur vids? Two week or one week?
0 likesWhat if Human Sunset goes to a different school than Canterlot High and Crystal Prep?
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0 likesWhat if she wasn’t in the human world?
0 likesEvery one else:something reasonable
0 likesMe : she became immoral and possess a animatronic (I watch a lot of fnaf)
Holy cow, look at how many people commented at your vid even though (for me atleast) it came out 3 minutes ago
1 likeWhy can the real dog spike talk?
0 likes.....But
1 likeWhat if the human sunset went to*another dimension-?*
Finnaly someone who has a theory about this also love your vids
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0 likeswait wait maybe human sunset also ran away but in the human world she is plotting a different plan then pone sunset :0 :o
1 likeGreat video
0 likesCongrats on 400k because no one is telling this
1 likeYAYY YOU UPLOADED
1 likeJust reposting my Theory for all the none Patrons. So based on this video. I think I know where sunset shimmer is... In prison. Think about it, if she went on to be a musician, with said pride. It's almost guaranteed that she had an outburst, like most famous pop stars do. Lindsey Lohan, Justin Beiber, etc. She most likely had a bad show and some fans were mocking her, which would cause her to have said outburst since she's filled with so much pride. I imagine it gets to the point where she causes an accident. Thus getting to police involved and she is blamed for it and sentenced to a life in prison. As time went on, people just simply forgot about her, before our sunset shimmer came into the equestria girls universe. That just seems like the most logical possibility to me. since this always happens to arrogant musicians in our day and age.
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The writers confirmed that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world.
0 likesWhat if Sunset is just out there, doing adult things? Cuz yk.. she's an adult most likely?
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0 likesIs there a human sawtooth lol
0 likes???????? First this man is answering big brain questions
1 likeWhen is human sunset?
0 likes😍😍👍👍
0 likesTheory:do the pony world and human world now each other?
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know*
0 likesheres a idea,maybe human sunset went to pony world and stole the crown,which means there is somewhere a original pony sunset
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0 likes<3 👀!
1 likeWell om youtube there is the video where Sonata Dusk and her sisters meet there human counterparts and than Sunset Shimmer told the 2 dazzlings and her human counterpart told them to be not afraid and calm down
0 likesI have a idea where this sunset is the human version and their is a pony version which isn’t her
0 likesWhat about Starlight? °-°
1 likei guess sawtooth felt SHORT of his channle LOL
0 likesAn imteresting concept mabey she just lives far away for anyone eles to notice her mabey she lives with her family and had a better life then are sunset
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0 likesI like my little ponies better, please do more theories in my little ponies😥😢
0 likesThere is another Sunset Shimmer?! Oh my word! Do not tell me!??
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0 likesSunset simmer is the original human
0 likesWhere is
1 likeSTARLIGHT GLIMMER
FINALLY
0 likesSo, Sunset is the Avatar.
0 likesI'm thinking that the human sunset is where the human twilight went to school (I forgot the name)
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0 likesis sunset shimmer the biological daughter of celestia ???
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No.
0 likesIf applejacks dog stayed as a dog then why diamond dogs chamhe?
0 likesFinally one week video
1 likeHi Sawtooth Waves I love your chaanel
1 likeWow!
0 likesI think there is original sunset shimmer
1 likeShe's both maybe, anyways great video
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Oh hi Chuck.
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1 likeIn "The last problem" everyone is old but what happened to the human 7 and the human realm
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We will never know.
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Confirmed by the creators that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world.
0 likes@Terminator 156 She has to exist
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0 likesI like to believe that human sunset is out there somewhere.
0 likesBut she's not named sunset shimmer.
Look at it this way the multiverse threoy everything probability and improbability exists.
Human sunset shimmer could have been in plan view this entire time just under a different name.
I take for a example in the cw the flash.
A villain posing as a good guy from earth 2 shows up and shows Barry his earth 1 counterpart
An orphan with a completely different name than who he was posing as.
Yes it was a facade to gain his trust that is still accurate to the whole multiverse threoy.
Human sunset shimmer could have been named completely different and look completely different from her pony counterpart.
Human sunset could have easily be one of the background characters that we paid little to no attention to.
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Human Sunset doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.
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0 likesYes there is a human sunset I know because there a video that talk about a cancelled special that would have rap everything up and introduce the sunset shimmer of the human world
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I’ve heard she doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators and if that idea was scrapped then it’s not canon.
0 likesJast because it wasn't in the show doesn't mean it cun be in a comic book or a grhpaic novel and Hasbro also Said pony life was in the same universe as fim they lie
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What if the Sunset Shimmer we know is actually the human world Sunset?
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How?
0 likes@Quacker Simple the mirror is open while she is a little girl in the human realm, she falls through the Portal, finds herself in the pony realm, then when she tries to go back through, the portal has closed, trapping her in the pony realm. Celestia finds her, takes her as a ward, then things go from point A to point B, and she's back in the human realm.
0 likesI could explain it in greater detail, but this is to give you a rough idea of how she might be originally from the human world.
Human Sunset doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators and they said that not everyone from the pony world have a counterpart in the human world.
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She actually doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.
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0 likesi dont think so as sunset shimmer travvelled fron ponyvilll to equestria so no there is no human sunset
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Confirmed by the creators she doesn’t exist.
0 likes@Terminator 156 true
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0 likesdear sawtooth . I think the real human sunset as fainted from the world because sunset stay in the because our is still in the human world so until our sunset goes stay her world and please do a video on it.
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She actually doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.
0 likesHello sawtooth hehe
0 likesFinally I’ve been waiting for you to make a video on this topic
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The creators actually confirmed that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world.
0 likes@Terminator 156 I know but I just wanted his opinion on the matter
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She actually doesn’t exist.
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2 likesAnd why isn't princess celestial and Princes Luna dead in the human world since a humans age is around 80 years and the royal sisters in the the pony world are around 1111 years old
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Tell sawtooth to make an video on mlp g5
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You don't think there is another Sunset Shimmer in the Human World???
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@ATIYYAH BINTI AFFANDI Moe watch the first movie
0 likes@ATIYYAH BINTI AFFANDI Moe she said something like . " I didn't waste my time trying to get rid of her" or something like that.... Somewhere where twilight is fixing the mane 6 again.
0 likes@Jamih Custodio what movie?
0 likes@Jamih Custodio she wasn't referring to the human Sunset Shimmer.
0 likes@Reese who then? And this is a kids show
0 likes.... So either they forgot about it or they hidden the clues very well....
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