The craziest theory is that Sunset killed her human counterpart and took her place.  And as dark as this theory is, the scariest part is that is actually solves a lot of plot holes as to why we've never seen her human version and where Sunset was sleeping all these years.

@Ryan Moore maybe she accident hurt her with car or smth

@Ryan Moore maybe she accident hurt her with car or smth

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 r/youngpeopleonyt

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 r/youngpeopleonyt

An interesting hypothesis which might actually be accurate.

It is specualted that killing your own counterpart is much more bearable than killing somebody else, because you could just slip into its shoes and no one would notice. I mean think about it, you have technically the same personality, physical features only differ due to the difference in nature of the dimensions you reside in, and you could just think of it as like commiting suicide without actually dying.

Evidence for this theory is that Sunset Shimmer entered the human world when she was a teenager, as Celestia explains that she was her pupil before Twilight enrolled into her academy, so this means Sunset is older than Twilight and probably close to a teen when she abandoned Equestria and fled to the human dimension.
The times by which the two dimensions operate are not the same, remember that Celestia is over 1000 years old while her human counterpart is in her mid 40s, so Sunset was was probaby in her  mid 20s while her human self was around 10-12 years old.

Plus, we know that Sunset entered the human world power hungry after her ambitions in Equestria were denied, and she was most likely a teenager in apperance when it happened, but in the school we see a portrait of Sunset Shimmer when she was very young with a very cheerful personality, without any sign of evil ambitions; almost as she was native to the world. While in the next portrait we see a Sunset Shimmer who appears to have a much more darker personality and who truly appears as her mentality is completely different from her previous self. Just like someone who came from a completely different life and simply slipped into her shoes.

Also, when Sunset discovered that there was a human Twilight, why did she never brought up the idea that there could be a human version of herself as well?
Almost as if she knew there couldn't have been another.

This could serve as evidence to back this theory.

Obi wan, what are you doing in my little pony?!

Obi wan, what are you doing in my little pony?!

@Ryan Moore
😲What!? "Hurt🤕 a puppy🐶"? "Kill a human"?
😠That's naughty

@Ryan Moore
😲What!? "Hurt🤕 a puppy🐶"? "Kill a human"?
😠That's naughty

Even though it makes sense, it doesn't make sense that sunset would be able to do something like that... to Um, to herself.
On the other hoof, we don't know where sunset lived before she went to Celestia's school, so she could be there, because maybe she was expelled or something.
But... This makes me think.
Maybe human Sunset now lives in the pony world, as a pony?
Think about it. She goes to whatever place, finds magic portal, is in the pony world somewhere far away from where pony Sunset may be, or anypony who might know her, and never finds her way back, since obviously Sunset Scitwi and Rainbow dash could've just gone back through that cave, unless I'm missing something. I'm taking this from memory, but they had to go to Twilight's castle to get back to the human world though twilight's portal. Human/pony Sunset would need to go far away to get there too.
I also just remembered that the extra portals may be from magic leaking into the human world... But yet again, maybe some existed before then?...

@Dj Cuevas She's reluctant to hurt a puppy even at her worst. I doubt she's have it in her to kill a human. Maybe the original died of other causes and she took her place.

@InsidiousSaw Avatar is a kids show too, and it has a lot of death.

@InsidiousSaw Avatar is a kids show too, and it has a lot of death.

Please everyone remember this is a KIDS show😭💀

Please everyone remember this is a KIDS show😭💀

@zooballoons studios Look at Avatar. There's death and murder there and that's a kids show.

@zooballoons studios Look at Avatar. There's death and murder there and that's a kids show.

@DontTouchMyTea true, this just backs up this theory even more, since when  the apple sibling's parents died, they couldn't even mention/show their death, since mlp is targeted at little kids. gives me the creeps, honestly.

@DontTouchMyTea MLP:FiM's creator, Lauren Faust, only created the MLP:FiM.

@DontTouchMyTea MLP:FiM's creator, Lauren Faust, only created the MLP:FiM.

@KREWPOTATO
I like the good😇-heart💛 pony🦄/human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀ better.
She's one of the Force☠s of Goodness😇, and she's the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Forgiveness🥺😇

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 it makes sense because besides twilight's if the school system says it wasn't really the beginning of the year how would you get into the school system with no money or anything they're already have to be somebody in the school system that looked like her.

@💜ItAintCrystal!💙 <br>😠 To me, it's not too deep, it's true

@💜ItAintCrystal!💙
😠 To me, it's not too deep, it's true

@MUSHROOM! <br>What? 😠Come on! Spit it out!

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 Sunny as in Sunset Shimmer.

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 Sunny as in Sunset Shimmer.

@N.B Top Awesome
Glad you got my message📝.
Have a good😇 evening🌄.
🌠🦸♀🌌, 🎼🎺🎵, 🥳🎊🎆!

@N.B Top Awesome
Glad you got my message📝.
Have a good😇 evening🌄.
🌠🦸♀🌌, 🎼🎺🎵, 🥳🎊🎆!

@KR Mii Studios
Don't be ridiculous 😠!
Sunny☀ Starscout♀ is just one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇.
She's the leader of the Mane 5.
She's the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Hope🌟.
I also like her as an alicorn 😇

@N.B Top Awesome <br>I'm an adventurous🧭 fan of the 3D-cartoon "My Little Pony🦄 G4 and G5" Series 😇

@N.B Top Awesome
I'm an adventurous🧭 fan of the 3D-cartoon "My Little Pony🦄 G4 and G5" Series 😇

I don't think Sunny was That evil Back then.

I don't think Sunny was That evil Back then.

@Shovelru
I like the good😇-hearted💛 human👧/pony🦄 Cozy Glow♀(🦄🌠🕊)💖 better 😇.
She's one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇

@Shovelru
I like the good😇-hearted💛 human👧/pony🦄 Cozy Glow♀(🦄🌠🕊)💖 better 😇.
She's one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 terminate would be more appropriate

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 terminate would be more appropriate

@Smith the inspiring animator  some kids shows can be a bit too dark sometimes

@Smith the inspiring animator  some kids shows can be a bit too dark sometimes

That seems a bit insane and a little too dark for a kids show.

That seems a bit insane and a little too dark for a kids show.

For the killing part maybe human counterpart sunset ended it for herself maybe her life wasn’t as nice as others would be just a theory though

@zooballoons studios A kids show where Nightmare Moon explicitly tries to murder her sister, Rockhoof goes through an existential crisis and essentially tries to get Twilight to help him with essentially magical assisted suicide, Twilight has to kill a bunch of clones of her best friend, Trixie attempts suicide by manticore, Diamond Tiara tries to blackmail people for political gain, several apocalyptic alternate timelines including one where everyone is straight up just dead, the kirins are essentially systematically lobotomized, and Starlight Glimmer runs a cult. I don't put anything past MLP at this point.

Ain't you too busy right now saving Leia? Ow and by the way. Hello there X-D

Ain't you too busy right now saving Leia? Ow and by the way. Hello there X-D

I’d like to point out though in Forgotten Friendship we actually do see where she sleeps

I’d like to point out though in Forgotten Friendship we actually do see where she sleeps

This was the exact same thing I was thinking…

This was the exact same thing I was thinking…

yes but her whole development and redemption shows no sign of guilt heavy enough to be caused by murder

yes but her whole development and redemption shows no sign of guilt heavy enough to be caused by murder

@The Peeps who are sunset shimmers parents?

@The Peeps who are sunset shimmers parents?

Oh I think the other Sunset Shimmer like maybe died aswell but not to Shimmer

Oh I think the other Sunset Shimmer like maybe died aswell but not to Shimmer

Or…maybe Starlight Glimmer is Sunset Shimmer in equestria and Sunset Shimmer is Starlight Glimmer in the human world? I mean, in one episode, Sunset did say that she didn’t see a Starlight counterpart and did allow her to come along with her.

The Robloxian Beat Saberist and other stuff

@zooballoons studios there are fans other than kids lol
and there's something called a fandom...
(ik u already know but just saying lol)

@DontTouchMyTea I will touch your tea thx for the coffee man

@DontTouchMyTea I will touch your tea thx for the coffee man

@Yuki and yet like other kid shows it also has a dark underbelly and besides ponies have died before in Mlp

@Yuki and yet like other kid shows it also has a dark underbelly and besides ponies have died before in Mlp

That's a kid sjow ofc it's not gonna happen

That's a kid sjow ofc it's not gonna happen

in the context of the show it’s more likely that she brought magic to the world somehow and banished her or something

in the context of the show it’s more likely that she brought magic to the world somehow and banished her or something

Or the human sunset died in a car crash or something

Or the human sunset died in a car crash or something

Obi-Wan Kenobi. Do you like My little Pony?

Obi-Wan Kenobi. Do you like My little Pony?

I’m pretty sure she rented her apartment though 🤷♀😂

I’m pretty sure she rented her apartment though 🤷♀😂

Obi Wan Kenobi I saw your comments on Star Wars videos xD now I'm starting to like you xD I can't believe you watch My Little Pony too! YAY!

@DontTouchMyTea <br>😠 I'm NOT a troll🧟♀. I'm a man🧑

@DontTouchMyTea
😠 I'm NOT a troll🧟♀. I'm a man🧑

don't believe it. hasbro just wouldn't make a story that brutal. this is a kids show, and i don't think they would want to scare the kids by mentioning a human being murdered (it's a little too dark of a storyline)

@zooballoons studios me looking at this comment knowing in the actual show it's canon murder actually took place

in the wiki it was said cozy glow did commit murder but im not rlly sure what episode implied it wkwkwk

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 your whole comments are cringe, the emojis, the weird building of sentences, you replying to everyone with those kind of comments.. eh<br>are you trolling?

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 your whole comments are cringe, the emojis, the weird building of sentences, you replying to everyone with those kind of comments.. eh
are you trolling?

@DontTouchMyTea
"Cringe"😯? Who are you calling a Cringe?😠
I'm just a fairytale-lover who never stops✋ believing💫. And that is NO joke🌀

@Bliksemridder <br>I like the Thx commercials 😇

@Bliksemridder
I like the Thx commercials 😇

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 oh that way i get it now thx also whats your fav theory in this video? Mine is the cutie mark one but since any ones talking about the thing where a human sunset would apear for finaly seems canon but got scratched ok then but the cutie mark one makes sense.

@Bliksemridder
"What do I mean," you're asking🤨?
What I meant is: I hate😈 the Forces☠ of Evil💀.
They're every Cartoon Good😇 Guy's enemies😈

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 mot sorry i ment to type not but i like i have a hole version if kadeem dint get captured mixed with others check on the video if taro won the pipe line realm also with revenge on evil forces what do you mean?

@Bliksemridder <br>"A good😇 revenge😈 story📘"? "Mot"? "Banjee"? Bah😠. I do my revenge😈 on Cartoon Villains😈 by rescuing☸ Cartoon Good😇 Guys from Forces☠ of Evil💀

@Bliksemridder
"A good😇 revenge😈 story📘"? "Mot"? "Banjee"? Bah😠. I do my revenge😈 on Cartoon Villains😈 by rescuing☸ Cartoon Good😇 Guys from Forces☠ of Evil💀

@Shawn Pickett Pauley💙🎩 you mean like killing him i mean it would bring a good revenge story mot gonna lie but its just dark then like the audience isnt happy back when that happend plus some people think banjee is dead not a silencer one even of him being a drone but a toy if acceleracers continued we saw a major and a other silencer that looked like banjee so hes a silencer to me if you ask but fair point tho.

@Bliksemridder <br>Why not🤨? I like Hot Wheel toys and the Hot Wheel T.V. commercials 😇

@Bliksemridder
Why not🤨? I like Hot Wheel toys and the Hot Wheel T.V. commercials 😇

@Angilee Smyth
I like the 2 Sunset🌅 Shimmers♀(🦄🌠🕊/👩🌌🦸♀)[☀🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 better:
Good😇-hearted💛 Human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀(👩🌠🦸♀)[☀🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫, and good😇-hearted💛 Pony🦄 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀(🦄🌌🕊)[☀🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Pony🦄 World🌍 of pony🦄 Equestria Land🏞

@Rosie Posie bir exo-l <br>I know🥺. That's crazy😠!

@Rosie Posie bir exo-l
I know🥺. That's crazy😠!

@Rosie Posie bir exo-l <br>That's naughty 😠

@Loulyaalove
It's all right. Some people are like that.
I believe in magic🌠 💛 🌌

@Loulyaalove
It's all right. Some people are like that.
I believe in magic🌠 💛 🌌

@Orchxd <br>Sometimes, it's better to be alone, so nobody can hurt you, ever

@Orchxd
Sometimes, it's better to be alone, so nobody can hurt you, ever

@Just some Fun
So wild🤪 😥, it's the Nature🏞 Place called . . .
The Wild🏞!

@Just some Fun
So wild🤪 😥, it's the Nature🏞 Place called . . .
The Wild🏞!

@DontTouchMyTea <br>I like the good😇-hearted💛 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀ better. I also like Counterparts 😇

@DontTouchMyTea
I like the good😇-hearted💛 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀ better. I also like Counterparts 😇

@diamond girls <br>Don't worry, sweetheart💖. You'll see👁 her again😇. She's the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Forgiveness🥺😇

@diamond girls
Don't worry, sweetheart💖. You'll see👁 her again😇. She's the Spirit🌠 of the Element💎 of Forgiveness🥺😇

@Doctor RTD <br>I like the good😇-hearted💛 Human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀(👩🌠🦸♀)[☀🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫, and the good😇-hearted💛 Pony🦄 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀(🦄🌌🕊)[☀🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Pony🦄 World🌍 of pony🦄 Equestria Kingdom🏞🏰 better 😇

@Doctor RTD
I like the good😇-hearted💛 Human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀(👩🌠🦸♀)[☀🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Human👩 World🌎 of Canterlot High School🏫, and the good😇-hearted💛 Pony🦄 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀(🦄🌌🕊)[☀🟡🔴](🥺😇💞)🧡 in the Pony🦄 World🌍 of pony🦄 Equestria Kingdom🏞🏰 better 😇

@zooballoons studios <br>It's not nice to kill 😠

@zooballoons studios
It's not nice to kill 😠

@Dj Cuevas <br>I like the good😇-hearted💛 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀ better 😇

@Dj Cuevas
I like the good😇-hearted💛 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀ better 😇

This is a kid show i dont belive that and anyone who watched hot wheels acceleracers before saying well dint they do that to kadeem probaly people who never watched breaking point and ultimate race hes alive only now hes on the other team and is a cyborg robot so i dont belive it.

There is no other sunset. Thats what her cutiemark means . She's the balance between worlds. Theres only one sunset

There is no other sunset. Thats what her cutiemark means . She's the balance between worlds. Theres only one sunset

I doubt Hasbro would let this be canon in their show that is meant for the whole family to watch, while it makes sense this would probably be too dark

Alice the 𝓐𝓷𝓰𝓮𝓵𝓰𝓲𝓻𝓵

@DontTouchMyTea i wish mlp could do a Q&A too so we can have all our questions answered😢

@DontTouchMyTea i wish mlp could do a Q&A too so we can have all our questions answered😢

Alice the 𝓐𝓷𝓰𝓮𝓵𝓰𝓲𝓻𝓵

Or she found a way to replace the human Sunset shimmer.

Or she found a way to replace the human Sunset shimmer.

I kinda want to add to this theory, I honestly think that the human sunset wasn’t attracted by magic
And had no knowledge of it, so she would maybe be nice and popular in counterlot high, the pony sunset
Would be a studying student, like twilight, but fails so she seeks another world, with all her studies
She discovers the human world and decides to have a new life there, she finds out about the nice sunset and rage
Interferes her which makes her mad, she wants power like she’s seen a fellow student, twilight become
But she fails miserably and sees her opportunity in cantorlot, so I think she likes the popular ness
Of her human self, and secretly ends her life pretending to take her place and becomes crueler and more hungry
For power like she originally wanted in the pony world, it also fills another gap whole, we saw a picture of the main six
Together when they where young before they fell apart and twilight put them back together, why didn’t sunset ruin there relationship
Back then? Because it wasn’t the same sunset and she saw how powerful the main six where in the pony world she was jealous and didn’t want that to happen to a world that gives her opportunity this is my theory is you see any mistakes or things that would likely
Be wrong please correct me I’m interested in the truth of this theory

and she probably never talked about it because she didn't want her friends knowing and being scared of her maybe

and she probably never talked about it because she didn't want her friends knowing and being scared of her maybe

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE

I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE POSSIBLE

I mean like when u said Someting scary but the one u said made me like bruh scared and I'm still Scared of what he saying but u are correct maybe

Oh god (the only problem with this was it was leaking that human sunset was to appear before the show ended with rumours of equestria girls continuing but this theory would be wild

sunset was also a demon, so she could have totally done this for real
and since mlp is a kids show, they can't just show it
but there weren't any hints that she killed her counterpart or anything, it seems more like it was just forgotten that she should have a counterpart as well

i wish the mlp creator would do a Q+A, so we can ask that question

@candie berry Exactly what I was thinking xD

@candie berry Exactly what I was thinking xD

.... I'll never see sunset the same again......😓💩

.... I'll never see sunset the same again......😓💩

Damn I just got a new idea for story writing, thanks for the creepy theory

Damn I just got a new idea for story writing, thanks for the creepy theory

I have three theories.
First one is that Sunset is from the human world but she was an orphan and she slipped into a portal leading to Equestria. Now you may be asking where is pony sunset than and that's were it gets interesting. I think that she was killed in a forest by Timberwolves and the sunset we know was spat out in that forest and later found by the ponies she calls family. I'd like to point out that in the anon a miss story she says she was never close to her family and I think her starting out as an orphan then being transported to another world with talking horses would definitely causes some sort of gap. Which led to her estrangement with her family and the ambition for magic and power.

The second one is a little more simple but equally possible. And that's that human Sunset is a runaway like Sunset. She could have left her home and essentially is travelling around the world and is staying under the radar because that's what runaways do. They stay hidden. The proof is comparing human Twilight to pony twilight. While the difference of what they are after is magic and science the fact remains that they study it feverishly. I think that maybe she ran away to prove something to those she ran away from much like Sunset did. What that something is remains up for debate. It could be art/painting, or it could be music based. Again no one really knows.
The third is much like the first but instead it follows what we know so far with the sunset we do know. So she would be a pony. There we can now focus on human Sunset. In this theory not just human Sunset but her entire family is killed/lost in some sort of accident. While no real proof exists, I would like to point out that if either a human sunset does exist and shes as estranged from her family as pony Sunset than why haven't we seen anything about a missing sunset or have a family member like human sunsets parents or sibling run up to her or something similar in all this time. It's not like Sunset is hiding herself. Shes in a popular band, was in a movie, and was at a rock concert and sung with the idols on stage. That's hard to miss. Which is why it's possible for human sunset and her family to be dead. As well as if she did take over human Sunsets role as found daughter why would she be living in her cheap somewhat rundown apartment alone?
Anyways those are my thoughts on human sunset. Sorry for the long read.

Why are we asking this question anyway human sunset could be in poland and we would have no idea

Why are we asking this question anyway human sunset could be in poland and we would have no idea

We actually do get to see where sunset lives in the “Monday blues” music video, it’s like a cheap apartment

We actually do get to see where sunset lives in the “Monday blues” music video, it’s like a cheap apartment

I was confused at people who thought Sunset killed other Sunset because it’s a kids show

I was confused at people who thought Sunset killed other Sunset because it’s a kids show

She wasn’t exactly in a good place mentally, or morally when she arrived.

She wasn’t exactly in a good place mentally, or morally when she arrived.

So basically the series turned into Mirai Nikki

So basically the series turned into Mirai Nikki


There's something else I question about Sunset Shimmer. How did she gain a human identity, and who adopted her so she could live in the human world?

@EG and AJ Maybe. My biggest theory is she ended up an emancipated minor. Which would explain why she has her own apartment

She did live in the human world for a long time... She might have just lived on the streets honestly, or slept in the library like Twilight.
Its hard to know.
The show never answered this, and I really want answers.

@•Lunar Witch• Not really. Twilight only spent a few days at a time in the human world. She didn't need an official identity there. Sunset Shimmer has been there for years. And therefor did need one.

You know the same problem is for twilight and we see how that goes-

@Gacha daisies <br>Princess👸 Aurora♀ the Sleeping😴 Beauty😍

@Gacha daisies
Princess👸 Aurora♀ the Sleeping😴 Beauty😍

@ღ Kristal Amber ღ oof ye<br>But I don't think they're siblings

@ღ Kristal Amber ღ oof ye
But I don't think they're siblings

@Saadia Peerbux some think she is sunburst sis ;-;

@Luan Loud
Don't worry, sweetheart. Pony🦄/human👩 Sunset🌅 Shimmer♀(🦄🌠🕊)[☀⭐ + ☀🟡🔴, 8 ⭐⚪](🦱🔴🟡)[🦎🟡⚫](😇💑💛)🧡 is one of the Forces☠ of Goodness😇.
And always will be 😇. Promise keeping 💛.
Have a good😇 day🌞 carefully, for the Heaven Sakes of Goodness😇 if it's the last thing I ever do

@Symphony that does make me wonder what EqG paper work must look like...

@jack squatt apartments (or even homes) require a background check

@Ro Noble <br>Don't worry, sweetheart💖. She has something better😇: friends💑

@Ro Noble
Don't worry, sweetheart💖. She has something better😇: friends💑

@Kelly Chan <br>Actually, Pony🦄 Flash📸 Sentry♂(🦄🕊)[🛡⚡ + 🛡🔵, ⚡🟡](💂♂💛💘)🧡 is Pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀(🦄🌠🕊)[🌟 + 🌟💖, 8 ⭐⚪](💑💛💞)💜's Love💘 Interest🥰 😍

@Kelly Chan
Actually, Pony🦄 Flash📸 Sentry♂(🦄🕊)[🛡⚡ + 🛡🔵, ⚡🟡](💂♂💛💘)🧡 is Pony🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀(🦄🌠🕊)[🌟 + 🌟💖, 8 ⭐⚪](💑💛💞)💜's Love💘 Interest🥰 😍

@Saadia Peerbux he adready made a video about that

@𝚊 𝚑 𝚎 𝚊 𝚛 𝚝 Yeah she does. She seems to be some sort of emancipated minor

@Kelly Chan you have her cutie mark as your profile pic?

@Ed Sweet no I’m talking about how he says that he doesn’t like his videos

@BananaGirl74 how is that rude? They are just stating that sunset is a minor

@jack squatt I was mistaken. It wasn't a flashback, but rather a canon comic that showed what happened called The Fall of Sunset Shimmer. It basically boiled down to her being hungry for knowledge and power, being obsessed with wanting to be a princess after looking into the mirror and seeing a reflection of herself as an Alicorn, and Celestia deciding to stop teaching her because Sunset refused to back down. They had a fight, Celestia orders Sunset be made to leave Canterlot, Sunset overpowered the guards and ran through the mirror. Celestia is left with regret and focuses on teaching Twilight in a different way than she taught Sunset. Then the events of Equestria Girls happened roughly three years later.

@Felix24148 I'm really uncertain on that.  However, I have not seen every last little bit of EQG, so if that flashback exists, it might very well be in one of the parts I missed.

@jack squatt Wasn't there a flashback that showed when she first went through the portal? I can't remember

I just thought she stole some of Equestria's gems/riches, and the portal translated them into human world money when she arrived.  Then she just rented an apartment.

My theory is that they crossed world's at the same time

@Saadia Peerbux Maybe Sunburst  is a brother?

@Saadia Peerbux That's also a very good question

I’ve always wondered who her parents could be 🤔

@Kelly Chan Possibly. She did admit to using Flash. But if there is no human world counterpart to her, then she may be an anomaly. If she was made an emancipated minor due to being registered as an orphan, than she likely got an identity through the foster system. She might have even started out in foster care. But with her villainous controlling attitude and scheming, she was probably made to live alone.

She likely was helped by Flash quite a lot in the beginning and somehow forged enough identification to at least enter high school. Or maybe Human sunset disappeared for whatever reason, whether it be a regular disappearance or a magical one due to Sunset's arrival, then Sunset just used that Sunset's identity.

@Seba Al Dossary Don't like, don't watch

@Ro Noble I know that. But she's not in an orphanage or the foster system. That implies Emancipated Minor. But at the age she was when she first went through the portal, someone had to have taken her in and taught her how to be human. When Twilight first came to the human world she slept in the school library on her first night.


I have a headcanon that human Sunset found a natural portal when she was younger, and has been living in Equestria ever since. The "she's too far away" and "she hasn't made a big splash" arguments apply here, plus the fact that they'd be looking in the wrong place if they ever <b>did</b> try to locate her.

I have a headcanon that human Sunset found a natural portal when she was younger, and has been living in Equestria ever since. The "she's too far away" and "she hasn't made a big splash" arguments apply here, plus the fact that they'd be looking in the wrong place if they ever *did* try to locate her.

@spring stansbury
😠 That's silly.
Good😇-hearted💛 Human👩 Sunset🌄 Shimmer♀👩(☀🟡🔴)🧡 is the Leader of the adventurous🧭 Equestria Girl👩 Heroes🦸♀ of Canterlot High School🏫, in the Earth🌎-like Human👩 World🌎 of the 3D-cartoon "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Equestria Girls👩" Series.
Human👩 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀👩(🌟💖⚪)💜 is a good😇-hearted💛 friend💑 of the adventurous🧭 Equestria Girl👩 Heroes🦸♀ of Canterlot High School🏫, in Earth🌎-like Human👩 World🌎 of the 3D-cartoon "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Equestria Girls👩" Series.

Alicorn🦄 Twilight🌟 Sparkle♀🦄(🌟💖⚪)💜 is the Leader of the fun🥳-loving😍 Mane 6 Heroes🦸♀ of Ponyville Village🏙, Equestria Land🏞, in the Earth🌎-like Pony🦄 World🌎, in the 3D-animated "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Friendship💑 Is Magic🌠" Series.
Good😇-hearted💛, Unicorn🦄 Sunset🌄 Shimmer♀🦄(☀🟡🔴)🧡 is a helpful friend💑 of the fun🥳-loving😍 Mane 6 Heroes🦸♀ of Ponyville Village🏙, Equestria Land🏞, in the Earth🌎-like Pony🦄 World🌎 of the 3D-animated "My Little Pony🦄: Generation🌟 4: Friendship💑 Is Magic🌠" Series

I Agree Matt TOB Because There Might Have Been A Original Sunset(H) And I Have A Theory: What If Moondancer's Is Original Sunset Oh Also Maybe Original Twilight Sparkle Went To The Same School Together Because I Saw A Crystal Prep Unform On Original Sunset

@Scara why you have a hot JP VA <br>I know the Crystal🔮 Mirror(In pony🦄 Equestria Kingdom🏞🏰) is the magic🌠 portal🧿 to the Horse🐎 Statue🗿(At Canterlot High School🏫)

@Scara why you have a hot JP VA
I know the Crystal🔮 Mirror(In pony🦄 Equestria Kingdom🏞🏰) is the magic🌠 portal🧿 to the Horse🐎 Statue🗿(At Canterlot High School🏫)

That’s also my theory, if the Sunset we know can stay there then Human Sunset can too

Knowing about Spring Break Down, your head canon seems kinda real, there is a chance she found an another portal unknowingly and get in on it accident. That's why she isn't anywhere to found on the human world, and that she is somewhere in Equestria.


Personally, my own headcannon is more a 'When was Human Sunset?' question. We know Sunset was Princess Celestia's student <b>before</b> Twilight, but I don't think in the animated series we received a clear idea of how long before Twilight. Human Sunset might have been contemporaries with Shining Armor/Cadence, and has graduated from Crystal Prep. Or she may be even older. Principal Celestia vs. Princess Celestia tells us that time runs weird between the two realities, because one is thousands of years old, while the other is likely in her mid-to-late 40's (in my experience full Principals don't get that job until they're at least 40, but I could be wrong there). So Human Sunset might have been a student when Human Celestia was starting as a teacher, anywhere from fifteen to twenty-five years ago.

Personally, my own headcannon is more a 'When was Human Sunset?' question. We know Sunset was Princess Celestia's student *before* Twilight, but I don't think in the animated series we received a clear idea of how long before Twilight. Human Sunset might have been contemporaries with Shining Armor/Cadence, and has graduated from Crystal Prep. Or she may be even older. Principal Celestia vs. Princess Celestia tells us that time runs weird between the two realities, because one is thousands of years old, while the other is likely in her mid-to-late 40's (in my experience full Principals don't get that job until they're at least 40, but I could be wrong there). So Human Sunset might have been a student when Human Celestia was starting as a teacher, anywhere from fifteen to twenty-five years ago.

@Sahan Senanayake someone said 10 but 15 years ago human isn’t born

Exactly what I thought. Princess Celestia and Luna lived for over a thousand years. So 50 years in the past, there will be no principal celestia or luna in the human world. They would be dead, 50 years in the future. So for Sunset, there are two answers. Either her human counterpart isn't born yet or she died a long time ago.


There was actually a scrapped equestria girls special where they finally found out why magic has been following them around everywhere, where it’s coming from, and who the human sunset was. And in the end, Sunset had to make a huge important decision, (likely going back to equestria)

@SilverDiamond bro guess what I’m commenting

@SilverDiamond there are scrapped storyboards of it in YouTube about it which kind of proves it so yeah 👍

I have heard about that and despite me not exactly being a huge fan of Equestria Girls, that is something I would have watched.  It is sad that Hasbro scrapped it, it would have given us answers to so many things we have questions about....and brought Sunset Shimmer home from what I understand.

@♡Veclipse♡ Yah, completely yay blind and deafmute. If you can't prove yay - don't comment.

@♡Veclipse♡ Yah, completely *yay* blind and deafmute. If you can't prove *yay* - don't comment.

@SilverDiamond stop yelling,I can even hear you through the screen!

@Chanda Chalabesa-Hehir Like I said. LINKS!!!

Is that the special where they on the sinking boat because if it is then it's not scrapped

@SilverDiamond I'm pretty sure the eg writers confirmed it on twitter

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD'VE WANTED IN SEASON 9 OF FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC!

Along with Using The Real Grogar.


I still like the funny Answer, that human Sunset is an adult who lives with her teen/pony self.<br>Because the Adult is secretly part of an MIB style organization focused on tracking and detecting magical problems.

I still like the funny Answer, that human Sunset is an adult who lives with her teen/pony self.
Because the Adult is secretly part of an MIB style organization focused on tracking and detecting magical problems.

I just always love the idea od a specialist Government organization. Already aware of whats going on, and studying things while the protagonists got to work.
They might even be Connected to the organization Bon Bon is part of.
After all many dangerous beings, like the Sirens, had been sent to the human realm, I doubt the ponies are DUMB ENOUGH to just leave such dangerous creatures un watched.

wow crazy, but could open the door for endless story possibilities


Honestly, EG seems like so much wasted potential. I'd love if they ever did a more grown up version of EG where we explore Sunsets character more and her life before she became miss popular at the highschool.


There's an article on google that says one of the producer already made an hour long special to be the finale. It is about sunset's human counterpart and what really happened to her. This special was suppose to end the season and begin the season 3 but Hasbro has another thoughts. So they just go with the Holiday unwrapped shorts leaving the whole special storyboard behind. I loved the Holidays unwrapped but i think the special would've ended the series better like how mlp:fim ended so well. They also said that they were suppose to make the season 3 of eg but decided to just drop it after thinking that mlp already ended and itll be better if they end the spinoff to. But hey what do we know, maybe eg will comeback because there are rumors that if pony life will end, they'll continue the season 3 of eg because hasbro has no plans of stopping the my little pony era

it makes sense, but when it is, i'm waiting all the time and it's gone


I came back to this channel after a few years bc I fell back into the mlp fandom, and it's nice to see that a couple people (including Sawtooth and Nowacking) have grown into themselves. It's cool, and always great to see trans and nb people living their best lives.


The fact that brohoof is still at the end gives me happy tingles 😂<br>I used to watch this channel back in middle school when it first started out and it's been super fun seeing how far the channel and Sawtooth have come :)

The fact that brohoof is still at the end gives me happy tingles 😂
I used to watch this channel back in middle school when it first started out and it's been super fun seeing how far the channel and Sawtooth have come :)


I like your theory about her being the connection between these worlds! Her cutie mark looks like a ying yang, and cutie marks always reflect who a pony is and what their role in the world is. She’s probably a connection between there and she was always meant to go to the human world, keeping the magic in balance and the reason why magic follows the mane 6 there. It’s a good theory!


I assumed that just as pony Sunset traveled through the mirror to get to the human world, the human Sunset found a portal to the pony world.

Okay Sawtooth now answer where in equestria is human sunset

Well, it is shown in the spring break down that there's more portals besides the mirror so, not impossible.


I always wondered about that. Maybe human sunset was in a different city in another school. Human twilight was in Crystal prep, rival of Caterlot high school. So it makes sense Sunset might have been in a completly different school.


Im finally glad someone else brought this up. Its been plaguing my mind since the dawn of esquestria girls.

I always figured human Sunset would be her living as a delinquent, with her "banishment" in this world being Juvie.


What if Human Sunset was driven to Equestria in the pursuit of Magic. Kinda like string theory I guess. Human Sunset could also be in another dimension similar to the Equestria we know.


This is a personal theory of mine, and based on what I already know it could be a big IF. But I was thinking once that it could be possible based on Newton’s law of conservation of energy and mass (bare in mind I have not actually researched this myself, what little I know comes from Peabody and Sherman.) I was wondering if perhaps after the Equestrian Sunset came to Earth and met the Earth Sunset, because the Equestrian Sunset is essentially trapped on earth now. Eventually one was either going to simply fade away (insert Thanos snap reference here.) or one would absorb the other and the dominant Sunset would become the only Sunset. Yes my mind can be a hell of a dark place sometimes. Honesty I scare myself now and again!


Maybe human Sunset  was a grew up woman. I've heard the theory that Sunset maybe an earlier 30 because she entered the human portal when Twilight was still young so that made possibility that Sunset's age doesn't grew up so much in human world so we can see her as a teen


I don’t really think that Sunset has to have a counterpart, not just for the reason you gave in the beginning, but also because these worlds aren’t a perfect reflection of each other, there are tons of inconsistencies, such as pony Twilight liking flash, and Human Twilight liking Timber Spruce, so maybe Sunset never existed in the human world?

I imagine that Sunset’s counterpart lives somewhere else, like, FAR away, just like Twilight

Sunset is a student in Canterlot and she hasn’t been seen in ponyville constantly, and she went to school, and then escaped into the Human world and stayed, so I’m pretty sure Sunset’s human self exists in like another town or country where they’ll never meet

So sunrise and sunset is one so she’s a balance?

@paristath but it means one wouldn't HAVE to exist

Just because the same exact events of Equestria don’t happen in the human world doesn’t mean a human Sunset doesn’t exist?

my thoughts exactly. these two worlds operate based on what their world needs, and if the human world didnt need a sunset shimmer, it wouldnt have one.  the same way it didnt need magic for a while, or it does need abacus cinch while equestria doesnt

One of the writers revealed there were supposed to be an hour long movie special at the end of season 2..in that movie.. They will show what really happened to the real sunset.. But sadly the movie was cancelled

@Lovely One so she leaves alone, ok thanks🙂

@Rosie Posie bir exo-l she has an apartment, as seen in forgotten friendship, and some of the shorts

@DontTouchMyTea ooh so okey, anyways i haven't got an idea of this mistake🤦♀😅

@Rosie Posie bir exo-l i read it was confirmed that she has no counterpart

I think she found a way to replace the human sunset shimmer. Or like, they mixed😅 I don't know anything about it😂

this is what i hope because out of the theories i couldn't handle any of it 😃

After revising all the Equestria Girls movie, now i kinda think your idea can be true. First of all  like you said ,the world aren't perfect reflection. Eg: Princess Celestia & Princess Luna shud be in Canterlot but the students & teacher in canterlot high are citizens of Ponyville, which reflect Celestia & Luna kinda lives in Ponyville. Secondly, in Equestria Girls, Princess Celestia  told twilight not to upset the balance, but she didnt insist of bringing sunset back juz to not upset the balance, seems like sunset is a bridge of multiuniverse

Also the fact, that technically Sunset is older then Twilight, bc she was Celestia`s former student before running away and Twilight taking her place. So when Twilight was a filly Sunset was at least a teen. But in human world they all are in one class. Though I have a theory that human version of Sunset could be in university or already working in another place or another city. She might even be from Canterlot high considering in pony world Sunset was Celestia`s student... But it leaves even more questions so Ill pass on this

This actually a pretty great point. My theory is that she isn't human in the EG world but another creature (like a bird or something) but than when sunset got there she learned to change her form but yours made a whole lot more sense

Yes, I believe in your theory, recently I had a conversation about this and I raised this theory

Actually I'm starting to think that MLP & MLP EG takes place in different multiverse<br>you may exist in some universe but are you always gonna be good in those universe while in other universe you don't exist yet or you used to exist but you live in like a different timeline

Actually I'm starting to think that MLP & MLP EG takes place in different multiverse
you may exist in some universe but are you always gonna be good in those universe while in other universe you don't exist yet or you used to exist but you live in like a different timeline

You have to remember that somepony’s doppelgänger is still a entirely different person

There are a bunch of ponies that have never appeared in Equestria Girls and there's several human characters that have no pony counterpart in the main show. It's possible they all do have counterparts that we haven't seen, but we don't know for sure. Sunset is the most important character we've seen without a counterpart but she's not unique in that.

I agree with that there are inconsistencies but do not agree that human Sunset never existed; it wouldn't make sense for there to be a version of Sunset Shimmer as a pony and not one in the human world. As seen after Twilight (pony version) left, it was eventually revealed there was a human version of Twilight Sparkle.


I'm so happy to see this channel still active even after all these years of being out of the fandom! The more things change, the more things stay the same, huh?<br>(I really like the idea that sunset wasn't a scholar, but I think she might have gone into sports instead- where you can prove beyond doubt that at your best, you ARE the best. Music is pretty semantic, and I'm not sure a base sunset would have much interest in it beyond a "ha look at this cool skill I have now bow before me" hobby.)

I'm so happy to see this channel still active even after all these years of being out of the fandom! The more things change, the more things stay the same, huh?
(I really like the idea that sunset wasn't a scholar, but I think she might have gone into sports instead- where you can prove beyond doubt that at your best, you ARE the best. Music is pretty semantic, and I'm not sure a base sunset would have much interest in it beyond a "ha look at this cool skill I have now bow before me" hobby.)


My theory is that Sunset (before she became good), told other Sunset to not get in her way. This would give her room to fit into the human world. Maybe the Sunset before was a bully, so Sunset had to take her place as a bully.


I just always believed the human Sunset was in another city not visited in the eqg universe.  I haven't put too much thought into it, but I have had an idea running through my head for another story to write where she shows up and has several confusing run ins with the rest of the group.


I have a story in my head exploring Cozy Glow and  Flurry Heart and how Human Cozy banishes human Flurry to the pony world.

human Sunset however could have moved, she could have died from reasons unrelated to Sunset's actions

She could have gone to the pony world but maybe Sunset's double was a different age or gender or color  so they don't look the same.


I love how the whereabouts of human Sunset Shimmer has been the one topic people have been theorizing about since EQG first started, the possibilities are literally endless!!!

Well Sunset Shimmer got in trouble in Princess Celestia's class back in the pony world, she betrayed her because Twilight Sparkle just her test and become a Princess. Sunset will get her revenge on Twilight to steal her crown. 🌅☹☀😡🌌✨😄👑😈🐴

honestly tho, imagine we get to see real Sunset later on and all along it was just a plot that we hadn't uncovered yet? what if she was there the whole time but for reasons hadn't shown up because the story hadn't centred around her but what if now she does become part of the story, then what would be her role? would she act anything like the pony Sunset? Would her backstory be anything like hers? Why had she been hiding in the low for so long? what are her secrets???

Twilight Sparkle does have her Counterpart in the human world who wear's glasses but Sunset Shimmer doesn't have a counterpart in the human world and Starlight Glimmer doesn't have a counterpart ether. 🌃✨👓🪞🌅☹🌠

Sadly we're never going to find out since the franchise stopped making mlpequestriagirls

It's the same thing with fnaf and the bite of 87

I mean we got to see the other twilight<br>But never got to see the other sunset shimmer

I mean we got to see the other twilight
But never got to see the other sunset shimmer

Instead of Crystal Prep, otherwise, Sci-Twi would have mentioned to us

@USS Indianapolis Well i'm afraid your curiosity has fallen on deaf ears if you get the expression.

Of course it is, it was shown there was a human version of Twilight Sparkle long after pony Twilight left which only makes sense there would be a human Sunset Shimmer. One cannot simply exist in one universe and not exist in a different universe, multiverse theory.

He’s just another one we need to see her like her please The best YouTuber in the whole day

My headcanon is actually a build off from Sawtooths, what if the human sunset is only a musician as a cover. What if she's also secretly a ruthless gang boss. Also what if everyone in chs knew about the human one as a musician and thought the pony one was the same girl but just didn't say it thinking the one they knew was trying to have a normalish high school life, as a bully. But then came the rainbow attack and everything made sense, so they never compared her to the human again and it just never got brought back up. I mean it's not like it would be the first time a bombshell like that would go by unnoticed both in the show and real life. Sooo, that's my interpretation. What day think?

Because it's been unanswered the whole time since the first Equestria Girls

Maybe there bikers because rainbow is a wonder bolt and she uses a modercykle alot in the human world its possible that the wonder bolts in the human world is a modercykle trick preformers in the human world again just a theory also I am posting part 2 of my solving cutie marks I'm posting today at 7:30 pm

@USS Indianapolis Does it really matter?

Human Sunset doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators and that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world.

USS Indianapolis & kaste1este Meh, both of you shut up and just deal with it, you damn vultures.

@USS Indianapolis that's what I was going to ask! 😂


doesn’t starlight glimmer not have a human counterpart either?


ive always thought that the sunset we have now <b>is</b> the human sunset who simply discovered the portal and adapted to the pony world quickly. maybe I missed something but do we see that much backstory for sunset other than "she was a student of Celestia"?

ive always thought that the sunset we have now *is* the human sunset who simply discovered the portal and adapted to the pony world quickly. maybe I missed something but do we see that much backstory for sunset other than "she was a student of Celestia"?


I’ve been wondering if there was another human Sunset or not!<br>I can’t believe Sunset’s story is now a cliffhanger! And there was supposed to be a Sunset Shimmer special that covers the other Sunset.

I’ve been wondering if there was another human Sunset or not!
I can’t believe Sunset’s story is now a cliffhanger! And there was supposed to be a Sunset Shimmer special that covers the other Sunset.


Interesting theory, very cool. You litteraly should work with creators of the show and make the plot, because your point of view is so much better than a regular show bro /)


Honestly if Hasbro didn’t cancel Season 3 and the Finale for Equestria Girls, we might’ve gotten an answer about this idea. Or at least, I hope

@klemontyme <br>I like the 3D cartoon "My Little Pony🦄 G4: Equestria Girls👩" Series with the Equestria Girls👩 specials💝

@klemontyme
I like the 3D cartoon "My Little Pony🦄 G4: Equestria Girls👩" Series with the Equestria Girls👩 specials💝

i really like EQG a lot, now im salty at hasbro

@Wolf Pack it's not happening its cancelled, covid 19 has nothing to do with this!

@Ludicrous Torpedo5220  there is going to be a s3 of eg i heard it got delayed cause of covid

@Sharon Robison hasbro denied a third season despite there were episodes and the planned final was already written by the writers.

Why did they even cancel it anyway!?!? 😩 😩 😩

@Ludicrous Torpedo5220 any chance you could send a link to that tweet?

Imo it's very slim since would hasbro even want to do that, heck the animation studio that did eqg now has a new name so what would we do about that. So yeah the chances of eqg returning are very slim, I still hope there's a small chance it might have a comeback but I'm not gonna over think it since this technically isn't the first time hasbro has cancelled something.

Idk man, they're already focusing on the G5 movie. Also, someone on Twitter replied to me that S3 was confirmed, even sent a photo that shows a list of things, which included EG S3.

Not sure if this is true or not, we can only hope that they'll finish the series after the G5 movie has released.

The creators actually said not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world.


I imagine the human Sunset might be in juvenile prison or be a homeless runaway because the pony one broke the laws and used the portal to escape. What to say her human counterpart might not be a small-time offended at the least.


I never got around to catching up on everything EG so there being a human Starswirl is new to me.  But I always figured that there being another sunset out there made sense.  Although the rise of the Rainboom's music career would eventually bring her out and the 2 would be forced to confront each other.  The same for Starlight, she's out there, just out there out of reach.  Also whether the human starlight would be reformed or not is a whole other issue.  The Human starlight though might be already good since the primary reason our starlight was the bad person was because of her confrontation with Celestia, not for other reasons.


I actually have my own personal theory. Seeing what we know now, the main cast of characters that resemble the main six act exactly like how the originals do, except they act like how they did before Twilight moved to Ponyville. So in Equestria Girls universe it looks like the character development is actually lagging behind, as Twilight is still friendless in this universe and is not in the same school as the other mane six. This leads me to believe that this universes Sunset Shimmer did in fact exist, but she too ran away from home. Unlike our Sunset Shimmer, however, this worlds Sunset was actually a top student that excelled and was even put in college level programs. Because of the high pressure that she felt from her studies, her parents, and even trying to meet Principal Celestia’s expectations, it eventually led to Sunset breaking down and deciding to run away instead. Maybe keeping in line with the main Sunset’s story, maybe the original equestrian girls sunset had done some illegal drugs to keep up with the demands and lower her stress, but she became addicted to it. This would also add embarrassment and anxiety to how this worlds sunset felt. So when our Sunset entered this world, she would be on her own for a while, until the events unfolded for the EG sunset took place. When this worlds Sunset ran away, her parents went out looking for her, only to find our sunset in her place, and after having dealt with poverty and not knowing this world, our sunset hopped on the opportunity to fit in and took this worlds sunsets place.

This theory leads into 2 or 3 possible outcomes:

1. That this worlds sunset is now struggling in this world trying to prove herself in a new location, maybe nearby or far away (much like how our sunset did)

2. This worlds Sunset dies while being out on her own, and no one would be none the wiser for it.

3. This worlds sunset was taken in somewhere and is now getting the help she needs, only waiting for a chance to come back into the canon show.


The talk about ambition and seeing Sunset's alicorn ruler reflection in the comic made me wonder if Human Sunset is at a different private school than Canterlot High or Crystal Prep, and she's getting involved in politics somehow, like volunteering with local community groups and/or preferred political party, as age-appropriate steps to gaining political power.


My dad theorized that the other student of the principal from Crystal High was the Sunset Shimmer of the human world (because she mentioned having only 1 or 2 other strongly intelligent students that had left) which to me has been something I've stuck with

I Just thought, in the 3rd film on the EQG chronology, the Crystal preeps headmaster says "the good disapear without me noticing"(in other words) wich can be consideres Ana argument in Thais case (in my opinion)

@PegasisRiri 271 she left, how would she know

@Mirror they literally all have the same names. but okay go off ig

That would make sense since Sunset was Celestia’s student before Twilight.

and each counter part dosnt have to have the same name

@PegasisRiri 271 she could of assumed it was her B-sunsets child named after her C-moved to the other school or A anything else or D-her twin

That's an interesting observation but if human Sunset was Cinch's student, she should have been shocked or reacted something like that when she saw Sunset at the friendship games


Не смотря на то, что идея про судьбу Санцет мне больше симпатизирует, не могу не отметить, что теория с убийством  логичнее. Думаю она убила свою альтернативную версию, а так как у Санцет никого не было, то и замены никто не заметил


Or science, you made a good point about Twilight and the stars for leading back on the other talents but I always wanted as replacing magic with science for them meaning human sunset would also excel at science


the first theory is actually the most plausible,not just cause, it's in keeping with the show's tone,but we're given pretty clear indicators that while she IS willing to use intimidation and fake evidence as well as "lol look at the new girl being dumb" screen shots,none of this puts her above the "mean bitch" level,and even at her worst she isn't willing to actually hurt puppy Spike.catch yes,vaguely threaten yes actually harm NO
Honestly I don't think she even had that stupid "teen zombie army" plan before transforming
sooo yeah if she isn't mean enough to hurt a puppy...let alone one she knows is helping her competition I think it's safe to say we can relegate Murder yo the realm of Fimfics.
here's a more grounded idea...Her counterpart is older than she is when she steps through the mirror and that;s why they never meet. she's already past highschool and given she would be a genius ;ole the pony version she's probably literally a rocket scientist or some kind of scientist at the vary least,,,but that's kist my idea for if she had a counterpart in the first place since she is afew years older than Twilight Cannonically.


I think these so much potential for fanfictions of this entire thing. If anyone can find a fimfic with each chapter being a different way Sunset meets her human counterpart, is love to give it a read!


I heard that there was a scrapped Equestria Girls finale after Sunset’s Backstage Pass that had the Human Sunset. The premise was that her life was ruined because Pony Sunset had taken her identity. However, we never got to see it and Equestria Girls ended with a bad finale in Holidays Unwrapped.

@Jokerlyzer Media ... Have you not heard the term, "euphemism", before?

@I Eat Lemons. <br>But it's NOT canceled. It's TRUE 😠

@I Eat Lemons.
But it's NOT canceled. It's TRUE 😠

@Willy <br>It's NOT a fever🤢. It's NOT a dream💭. It's REAL😠

@Willy
It's NOT a fever🤢. It's NOT a dream💭. It's REAL😠

@Autum Breeze <br>But, dude, Everybody has a counterpart

@Autum Breeze
But, dude, Everybody has a counterpart

It seems how Princess Celestia abanded Sunset Shimmer and didn't complete her test but now she's going to steal Twilight Sparkle's crown at the Crystal Empire. ☀😡🌅☹😈🌌✨👑🔮🏰

@Terminator 156 perhaps discord doesn’t exist in the human world then

I wish that they actually went through with it.

@Terminator 156  sooo maybe can be some human who don't have their copy in pony world?

@Hi I’m Luna did you literally not hear what the video said- it means LITERALLY taken from them. Human! SS DID get her life taken from her. Taken also means stealing. Just a heads up.

@Jokerlyzer Media you should change up your writing a bit, saying someone’s life was taken from them is smth people say to indicate someone died

Imo I really wish this happened but hasbro was like nope let's cancel the show instead of give it a proper ending

Why a bad finale tho....anyways I'm really looking forward to research that scrapped finale

@Suprize Studios They did. Look in the thread.

@Jokerlyzer Media Unfortunately it's not canon since the special was cancelled.

Yes! I’ve read abt this episode on the wiki, but then I’ve never found it again. I thought it was a fever dream!

@Kenneth Manning if you watch the video linked here in this thread, you'll see human sunset never died. Her life was just literally taken from her.

I guess we'll never really know, because Hasbro & DHX never chose to tie up this loose end and settle the matter.  It's also never established that because they're all high school students, they should all still be living with their parent families; not living independently like college students.  So...why do we never see Human Sunset's parents, who might reveal their Sunset somehow died in a tragic accident (bus crash, plane or train crash, cruise ship sinking, etc) and who would therefore mistake Equestria Sunset for their own deceased daughter? OR, if the 2 Sunsets DID meet, what kind of revenge battle royale would ensue for the old one to get her life back, or find a new purpose?? (*Groan*) Even I wouldn't want to be the Hasbro staff writer forced to explain that one.

That's interesting premise, but it doesn't make much sense. Ponies traveled through the mirror portal before and after her, but why she alone accidentally magically remotely caused human Sunset's disappearance?.. Unless she DIDN'T travel though portal, but via own magic?

@Terminator 156 which is kinda true. Not everyone has a human counterpart.

Some have animal counterparts

I’ve actually the creators confirmed that she doesn’t exist and that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world.

That actually sounds pretty interesting.


From what I could tell, Sunset shimmer probably won't meet her human counter part until she fully learns the power of friendship, unlocking her full potential. She'll meet her human counter part as a recall to who she once was and instead of resorting to anything extreme, I can see Sunset showing compassion for her human counter part inspiring the counter part to want to make the change and to learn from Sunset's greatest teacher, Twilight sparkle in the pony world and remaining there to discover her full potential in the magic that is friendship. Aaaaaand, scene.


Sawtooth's voice would be perfect for an audible book. Their voice is so calming to me...


I have a personal theory, I don't know if it helps to solve this but here it goes, both in the second movie and in the legend of everfree we see how there are 7 elements, in the case of rainbow rocks we see how the  red from sunset complements the rainbow, so I have my theory that each world requires its 7 element, represented in the human world with sunset and in the pony with Starlight


I really want EG to come back. We can't just have a cliffhanger, WE NEED AN EXPLANATION!!!


now saw will admit you brought up good points but there is one theory so far no one has touched on paradox say if she came in contact with the human sunset but once they come into physical contact one would absorb the others but the dominate personality is what shows like twilight the hunman twi was shy quiet very timid while pony twi was more outgoing


I really like the idea about her fate being between the worlds, but I also I am keen on the idea that may be what a loud Sunset to use the mirror in the first place was the accidental passing of her reflection counterpart. Once she had used the mirror enabled by this passing of her counterpart, it would’ve been possible for Twilight. This theory basically puts sunset as a type of living key to the door between worlds, but you can’t try to open the lock from both sides at the same time. Which is why I suspect the other one had to pass away first. Maybe as things hit a crescendo and Sunsets life as celestia’s as student, there were some kind of other drastic event happening in the other world. An event the deprived that world of its Sunset. Allowing her to deprive her own world of a Sunset in turn.


I actually do agree with your theory on sunset not having a human counterpart since it makes more sense than her randomly leaving


“Any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic.” -Arthur C. Clarke.<br>I think that humanity’s magic is our ability to make creative solutions to seemingly insurmountable problems. So perhaps, Sunset is basically a supervillain.

“Any technology sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable from magic.” -Arthur C. Clarke.
I think that humanity’s magic is our ability to make creative solutions to seemingly insurmountable problems. So perhaps, Sunset is basically a supervillain.


These therories about Sunset are really mysterious, but I've also got a question.
"Where is the human Starlight?"
Would she also control the people like the pony Starlight, and how would she be able to do so? Think about, if there might be another Sunse who we don't know of. Shouldn't there also be a human Starlight who is just how her pony part was? Controling over the humans and maybe wanting ONE society with her as the leader. And if there is a Starlight is she also in a villlage controlling over the humans and "brainwashing" them that a society with special talents is bad.
What do you think?


I actually have an idea of my own. What if like pony sunset, she wanted either musical ability or scientific knowledge, and, Celestia or one of the caretakers denied this. She was so problematic that they may have threatened expulsion.

(Example she was moving too fast for her class an needed to wait for everyone to catch up but kept interrupting class and causing trouble)

This was the deciding factor for her so, she ran away. Due to magic, or lack therefore of, instead of going to the pony world, she runs away to another country (possibly illegally)

She does this without telling anyone, so she is declared missing. When pony sunset crosses over they declared her found, so she took the life of original sunset.

That’s just my theory anyways.


yeah I wanted to know that too on the show, I hope they eventually bring her into the human equestria show, at some point


Actually, I believe there are 2. In the first film we see sunset shimmer, her unicorn magic is teal. The next time we see her,it’s red. This makes me believe that at some point the 2 Sunsets swapped and therefore meaning their magic is different colours because they are not the same person.


Sunset Shimmer is one of the most mysterious ponies

@Terminator 156 Plz spell sunset right!!!

Sensex the humans that sucks because she was first the sensor

The bones play sach fire the same way Google

@fuana shiroikage <br>Best. prediction. ever.

@fuana shiroikage
Best. prediction. ever.

@fuana shiroikage yea highly possible the fish was her counterpart and turned into that fish cause of the magic

I guess but for me the most mysterious in mlp is human twilight

@fuana shiroikage That's a funny fact. I lov it heheh.

I think sunset is a fish and not a human from the short you can see a fish that looks a lot like sunset

@Terminator 156 what if she lives far far away

I’ve heard something that human Sunet doesn’t exist in the human world.


As soon as Sawtooth mentioned a lust for power, a need to fell superior, and a want to feel important I thought of politics. Who knows she could be off somewhere purging a senator ship or something.


Honestly your right about Sunset never engaging in physical contact with anyone (unless you count almost hurting a portal😭) Which i don’t cuz she thought that was the only way to get everything she wanted so she probably didn’t resort to hurting her counterpart especially cuz it would’ve taken time to find her counterpart which would have distracted her from becoming the most powerful being of the school so i think your theory honestly is pretty good


I have a few head canons sunset met here counterpart, but Celestia's warning was something actually legitimate and not a bs excuse to not have multiple versions running around. and the two met initially they were friends living together but sunset's presence upset the balance and they either merged into a single new being, or the universe final destinationed their asses the one with the least will power the human sunset. didn't survive  hc 2: they met they both exist but human sunset adopted her as a sister. but ironically the mirror had made the pony sunset into a teen to compensate for there being two people who were the same and that is why we don't see her, sunset was the equivalent age of a college student so she's currently at college. sunset met but their meeting freaked human sunset and she ran infront of a bus accidently killing her. hc three hinges on the possibility that sunset was celestia's daughter, birth during hot love making with marvel's thor(dc cinematic universe) the two gods got it on like donkey kong and sunset was created. and since there are no dimension hopping asgardians in the pony human world that celestia never had kids.

this isn't one prethought up but what if it ended up let jet li's the one or highlander and the two sunsets had to off the other one to survive.


Can we get a backstory lore theory for where Mistmane is from? They totally gloss over it, and I just HAVE to know!!! Where are her people? Are they all gone? Or just far away?


Yeah, i dont really see what her cutie mark is supposed to mean. i mean it is a sun, which celestia has aswell but the human world and pony world theory seemes kinda logical 😂

@Non existent its at 0:31-0:56 (sorry if i got the timestamps off😓)


So I'm just going to throw this out there, 'cause why not. For a while, I had a theory that not only was Sunset a time traveler from Equestria's future, but that she was also the daughter of Starlight Glimmer and Sunburst. I went back and forth in my head about the questions that would follow with that: Why would she travel to the past? Did she know her parents? What led her to being Celestia's student?

Well, she could've been the product of an alternate timeline, where Starlight and Sunburst happen to have a kid. But it also could've been a timeline where Chrysalis was still around and trying to go after Starlight and her family. So in a desperate attempt to protect their daughter, they sent her (as a baby) to the past using magic. From there, she was brought up as an orphan, discovered by Celestia, became her student, and you know the rest.

Not only could that answer why there's no human Sunset, but also why she was so willing to go to the human world in the first place. She didn't leave much behind in Equestria, and she could have hoped to know where she came from and who she is.


At one point, a long time ago, I started to write an MLP/Star Wars Rebels fanfic that had the original Sunset Shimmer kidnapped as a child and raised by Mandelorians, under the name of Sabine Ren. At least, Sabine's original hair and skin color seemed to match up pretty well.
Sadly, that fic was in my laptop when its OS decided that the latest update was too much to handle, and the only repair was to completely wipe the drive. Also, I fell out of MLP around Season 6 due to a show wall.
Too bad, too. I think Darth Sombra would have made a solid villain.


another theory I have is that Sunset's counterpart was cinch's student. In the song "Unleash the Magic"<br>She mentions having 1 or maybe 2 smart students, and looking back and seeing that a few counterparts like starswirl and twilight are scientists in the human world (human twilight was also in crystal prep, where she studied science and tech mostly. possibly where starswirl studied too, so it would make sense) since there used to be no magic to study, maybe Sunset's counterpart was BECOMING a scientist (in the process of studying) Then the pony world sunset took her identity through some sort of system (Foster care or orphanage?) and put her under the radar by possibly making everyone believe she was the human sunset, never to be seen again.

another theory I have is that Sunset's counterpart was cinch's student. In the song "Unleash the Magic"
She mentions having 1 or maybe 2 smart students, and looking back and seeing that a few counterparts like starswirl and twilight are scientists in the human world (human twilight was also in crystal prep, where she studied science and tech mostly. possibly where starswirl studied too, so it would make sense) since there used to be no magic to study, maybe Sunset's counterpart was BECOMING a scientist (in the process of studying) Then the pony world sunset took her identity through some sort of system (Foster care or orphanage?) and put her under the radar by possibly making everyone believe she was the human sunset, never to be seen again.


My sister always wanted the Sunset from the human world to move to Equestria. Like, there was some sort of imbalance with 2 Sunsets in the same world, and the 7 would have to find her and introduce her to the other world, and she would eventually want to stay in Equestria.


Random theory: Human Sunset came to the pony world when Pony Sunset came to the Human world. She could have gotten lost, or started exploring Equestria, and not know how to get back, and she could be living as a pony somewhere on the borders of Equestria, or even outside Equestria.

that doesn’t exactly make sense. remember in the first movie when Equestria Twilight went through the portal back home? when human Pinkie tried to follow her, she wasn’t allowed to go through. she just hit straight rock, because she isn’t from that world. I feel like the same rule would apply to, and if there is the human Sunset Shrimmer.

But if the human sunset and pony sunset changed places then twilight and the others would have known.. <br>because twilight n the others also visited out of equestria like griffin stone or the mount aris..

But if the human sunset and pony sunset changed places then twilight and the others would have known..
because twilight n the others also visited out of equestria like griffin stone or the mount aris..

Meanwhile human sunset in Equestria living secluded on a farm countrside and enjoying simple life cause she wanted to get out of the stressful busy city of her human world absolutely oblivious about her counterpart wrecking havoc in heir world and afterwards saving it multiple times

@Parneet Kaur It’s just a random theory, it’s not necessarily true.

I have seen all the episode of Equestria girls and movies and never seen like that Silly

@Zapacunotres  maybe she uses the other portarl that are all over equestria (like we saw in that eqg special)

But she'd enter through the mirror and by doing so, would come across the guards and Celestia.

@Sebay465 that actually is a strong possibility

And as a fun alternative they could of fuesed into one being with there cuttie mark representing both the two worlds and the two beings fused into one

That's basically what I am thinking plus it would be fun if at the same time they both entered the portal effectively switching Places


love how he just casually begins the vid with "sunset shimmer is a nexus being" and then just kinda moves on to "or she's a failed musician"


I was talking with friends a month or so back about a thery that sunset was ment to be in the human relm from the beginning, and by that thinking I though maybe sunsets pony counterpart is supposed to be starlight (part of why I kinda like it is that is can be used as a trans metaphor but there really isn't proof for this) but considering how their lives are similar but not exact like all the rest of the counter parts I think there is room for this theory.

but alternatively there could just not be a counterpart for her, alot of crystal prep and some from canterlot high don't have a counterpart.


She was evil when she first stepped in the human world. Guessing she killed her human part or maybe she didn’t

I don't think it involves killing because, duh, its MY LITTLE PONY. EVEN THE TITTLE IS CUTE!


I think what really happened to Sunset's human version was that maybe she knew she had to get rid of the human version when she first came so she killed her??? Wouldn't it be possible? And no one ever suspected anything, since Sunset's pony-self was still there. This unlocks a world of possibilities!


The first thing I thought when I saw Sunset's cutie mark was "Yin/Yang?" And then nothing came of it.

I like your "she IS the connection" theory the best.

@Dreamisdreaming I mean she IS the Element of Forgiveness, so-

She is the balance of evilness and goodness


I think you were right on with the failed musician part about Sunset but if you're thinking like that you need a export for it. Think of it like human Sunset was an music artist that was trying to make her goal reality but whenever she asked different producers they don't accept her at all. What I'm thinking is that from her failure of music and no producers wanting to produce her music she runs away to a far place so she can play her music to herself and even keeping her identity hidden from everyone else such as wearing a hoodie and a mask to cover her face whenever she is out in public, but like I said this is just a theory on her musical talent.


In another video , waves says that sunset is older than twilight and the others so she might still be in college or a university. Maybe pursuing the goal of being a musician as sawtooth said by trying to learn more about it just like her pony counterpart was attending a school to learn more about magic.


Dear Sawtooth waves,
                         there is one mystery that i wanted to know for a long time.
                          How Sci Twi get her wings? Like how and why did she earn them?
                          She has wings in the human world when she ponies up but when she
                          goes to the human world she is not an alicorn.
                          To me, being an alicorn in the pony world is a very big deal
                          as it is usually destined for Rulership or royalty.
                          Hopefully you can make a wonderful theory and tell me the answer cus
                          sometimes i cant sleep not knowing.
From: One of your fans:)


Saw tooth needs to make more theoriesss I lovee them💞 there just so good could you do about mlp new gen I'd love to hear your fanstastic thoughts on why magic has disappeared and Pegasus lost their feathers and stuff maybe someone pulled a mega cozy glow 🤭


If she did have a human counterpart she would have been very confused when the one we know became famous by both being in a movie and being part of a famous band. So why didn't she seek the one we know out after all that stardom.


My theory: The sunset we all know is actually the human counterpart and she knew about the other world before the rest of the human counterparts. The pony counterpart is somewhere deep in equastria


There's also a strong chance that she was alive but died bwfore all this. From cancer to a car accident, we have no idea. For all we know, she could have been a victim of human trafficking and lives on a while other continent. There's so much going on in our basic world that so many things could have killed her off or kept her away from everything before now


I'be been asking the same question so many times but there wasn't a clear answer from people until sawtooth gave us an answer from him.


Actually, it was confirmed that there was originally going to be a human Sunset, but they scrapped the idea or something, there's a Dr. Wolf video about that :)

ChristinewhoYT: It doesn’t matter at the end G4 is long gone.

@Terminator 156 heard doesn't mean you have proof. So yeah. And stuff changes.

I’ve heard the creators say that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.


Is no one gonna talk about how Starlight has two different magic auras? In the original Equestria girls, she has a sea foam green aura, but when she goes to the pony world in the cruise ship movie, she heads to the pony world through the quicksand portal and uses a red aura. May just be inconsistency, but something to think about


Sunset originally lives in Canterlot or somewhere else. She just used the mirror to travel in the human world in order to escape with the crown. She has been there before since she wasn't surprised when the crown went through the mirror. There's only one sunset


I had a pet theory for awhile that, like EqSunset, HuSunset kind of ran away from home.  But without knowledge of magic, she stole a boat, got caught in a storm, and has been Professor-ing it up on some uncharted island somewhere.


This also raises more questions! What about chrysalis? Or discord? Or literally any of the non pony or dragon characters?


I like the idea of Sunset being the Avatar bringing the spirit...<br>Whoops, wrong universe. The point is I like the idea of her not even having a counterpart

I like the idea of Sunset being the Avatar bringing the spirit...
Whoops, wrong universe. The point is I like the idea of her not even having a counterpart


I have a theory that the human sunset found a natural portal, and went to live on as a pony from a young age and pony sunset went on to live as a human (which weirdly enough also ties in with her cutie mark like, in a "they switched worlds" kinda way)


The idea that Sunset stole her counterpart's life was disproven when we got to see where she lives in the music video.  No parents.  She's squatting in an abandoned commercial space that she's fixed up to be livable.   And Celestia's high school is weirdly accommodating to mysterious teenagers who show up out of nowhere with no educational records, almost as if they know they're sitting on an interdimensional portal and are prepared to cover for the occasional immigrant.

Sunset has living parents, she just hates them.  I speculate that they are part of the Canterlot aristocracy and their snobbery and demands that she be successful and perfect are what drove her away and meant that losing her apprenticeship means that instead of returning to them she instead ran as far away from them as she possibly could.   Which could explain why we don't see Sunset's counterpart.  Like pony Sunset, after she failed at something she ran. She ran so far away.  She had to get away.  She's not in Equestria though.  Given her magic talent and pride and ambition she would have ended up as one of the villains that the Mane 6 have to deal with.  But she will be as far as she can possibly get from where she was born.  I like to imagine her as the mysterious foreign student in some Japanese cartoon we've never heard of.


Here’s what I’ve always thought: sunset never actually belonged in equestria, she was always meant to be in the human world, but being born in Equestria, it made that difficult, when she rebelled against Celestia and went to the human world, she found where she was meant to be, and found where she was supposed to call her home, it might sound like a stretch, but that’s what I think.

@ADF dunno, nothing is perfect, but if she wasn’t meant to be there, she’s there anyhow, and has been for heaven knows how long, soo 🤷🏽

Why would Sunset be born in Equestria if she was meant to be in the human world?


I'd like to think that Sunset scared the other Sunset off, and she went to homeschooling until she graduated, and the moved away as soon as she could because she was still afraid of Sunset finding her, and wasn't aware of how Sunset was nice and reformed now. I'd also like to think she reinvented herself so no one would confuse her for Sunet. Maybe some hairdye and a new fashion sense. My headcanon new name for her that she chose is Sunshine Rise. Or Sunshine Days, inspired by the G3 pony Sunny Daze


I cant wait to see what Sawtooth does with the new gen of mlp but there are still so many possible things and questions we still have in gen 4 will those be answered in gen 5? I highly doubt it though


My Theory on human Sun Shim was always that maybe she was in Juvi. Think about it.
When we first meet sunset, she’s evil. What would the human counterpart be?
A criminal.
I at least always thought that would make a pretty cool plot line.


My theory is that Sunset came to the human world and was homeless for a few years until she turned 15/16 (when she was able to be rented to legally). But about the facts — in order to get into school those few years, she would’ve had to either be adopted or make fake legal documents. We know she lives alone, and has never mentioned adoptive system etc, so that’s why I assume she was homeless (living in an abandoned building or something) and she definitely had to make fake legal documents for fake parents/etc. <br>That’s the only way I could see around it, it’s not really related to this video, but I do believe personally in the "link" theory!

My theory is that Sunset came to the human world and was homeless for a few years until she turned 15/16 (when she was able to be rented to legally). But about the facts — in order to get into school those few years, she would’ve had to either be adopted or make fake legal documents. We know she lives alone, and has never mentioned adoptive system etc, so that’s why I assume she was homeless (living in an abandoned building or something) and she definitely had to make fake legal documents for fake parents/etc.
That’s the only way I could see around it, it’s not really related to this video, but I do believe personally in the "link" theory!


Pony sunset had a rebellious nature and was banished to the human world. Perhaps human sunset had a rebellious nature and is frequently in juvie.

Nah She’s kind now 🥰🥰🥰And plus she came back to eqastria 1-2 times

@Terminator 156 but the creators initially said they’d talk about where human sunset shimmer is in a scrapped equestria girls finale so she definitely does exist

@Terminator 156 i know you're probably just trying to inform everyone but holy cow how did you mange to reply on so many comments-

She wasn’t banished to the human world, she ran away to the human world.<br>If you look at her reaction when her memory was wiped away in one of the shorts, Sunset panics at the site of her human form and begs for Celestia.

She wasn’t banished to the human world, she ran away to the human world.
If you look at her reaction when her memory was wiped away in one of the shorts, Sunset panics at the site of her human form and begs for Celestia.

@Terminator 156 that sounds like excuses to me

The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.


Sería genial que este video tuviera subtítulos en español para poder entenderlo :"D


There was a video of yours that didn't even have access to the comments... I will comment that I prefer your hinge theory because of Sunset's complex character. She's literally one of a kind. That doesn't change her friendship with both Twilight's, (and I'm sorry, even if she is the hinge between the two worlds, I still ship her and human Twilight, because of their chemistry)


Two theories I have is that a sunset in the human world went to crystal prep like twilight did, but got expelled for going to extremes in pursuit of her academic goals, or something similar like pony sunset that made her power hungry and get kicked to somewhere else. Maybe she even had to move away?

Second one is that when human sunset was real little she wandered through the portal somehow, or a different one(?) And was deemed missing. She grew up in Equestria possibly at an orphanage or something and led a separate and different life from our sunset, and when our sunset went to the human world she was deemed a found missing child, so it solves where she's been living this whole time.

They both have horrible plot holes but then again the movies are kinda living contradictions in a way, they're a huge mess plot-wise.


I have no idea! This question has been pondering my mind since the equestrian games movie came out! It’s all so confusing and well if sunset traveled to the human world when she was young then why would the human one not have? The next problem would be sunset should have been living in canterlot and maybe she would’ve been a self-centered unicorn like Trixie? Gah there’s to many unanswered questions! I like your “Sunset in the link” idea best


I just always thought that the Human World Sunset just traveled to Equestria because the normal Sunset did the reverse lol

Or maybe sunset is from the human world and the pony sunset is missing?

Wouldn’t they notice sunset though? Equestria isn’t too big, and news travels kinda fast? You would think they would notice?

@Terminator 156 just like starlight glimmer


Theory: Human Sunset probably wanted to try getting smarter in school getting higher grades, but when she started to fail more and more, she raged and just quit, running off to celestia knows where. She'd probably find an alternate portal to equestria and head there and live in the shadows throughout the rest of her days, never being seen from or heard from again, enclosed in her own anger and self-pity in a corner of the world no one would ever find her.


Ok here is a kind of spooky theory: Did you notice that Sunset Shimmer's hair color slightly changed between Rainbow Rocks and the Friendship-Games? It went from a strong yellow to a paler shade of yellow. At first I thought that it was made intentionally as a kind of symbolism: Sunsets personality has gotten a loooot softer over time. But here starts my theory: What if somehow the human Sunset replaced pony sunset between the second and third movie. I know it maybe seems far-fetched, but that would explain her haircolor and the fact why she was so careless and thought that DELIBERATELY inviting her human friends to ponyville was a good idea in one of the movies (I can't remember which one sorry >_<)


imagine the regular sunset we know wasnt actually born in equestria and was actually born in the human world who at a young age traveled to equestria for a while but then was sent back by celestia oh em gee


New viewer💗🇨🇦😎So, given your OC pony... I take it you’re into synth waves when it comes to making music??? Do you make your own remixes???


I like how alternative sunsets ambitions don't really matter if the reason she's on the down low is because she failed at something then of course her pride would keep her going until she burnt out.


I’m just thinking, could it be that because she would go to the human world so often, her human counterpart just faded away along with anyone’s memories of her?


honestly when I was young I thought the true human sunset was in prison somewhere in the human world, given the pony sunset's original destructive and self-serving nature. I swear Im not crazy LOL


Could you please do a video about the necklaces the human six wear specifically how those stones have magic? I love your videos this one is very well done . please consider my request


I like your idea of only one sunset but as said this is highly unlikely. As we see every other character seems to have a human counter part. SEEMS to.


Finally someone actually asks this question that I’ve wondered

@Elliott Tafel that is something i never thought about like.... what if shes not born yet🤯

@Terminator 156 so the Human Sunset does exist, but we don't know where is she lives or where she could be. Or (a crazy theroty) how about she's not even been born yet

I have been wondering this for a long time

The creators actually said that not everyone from the pony world has a counterpart in the human world confirming Human Sunset doesn’t exist.


We know that Sunset is Celestia’s ex-student. Interpret that into human knowledge. An expelled student. What if Sunset is working a job somewhere in the show? Like as a waitress?


i feel like the human sunset studied the magic of singing in CHS and fell through the portal one of the 30 moons and fell into magic . I really wish it was Adagio i have this feeling they are connected...


I personally feel like human SS might've been killed but not by pony SS, possibly magic<br>Pony SS got so distraught by her death that she began to rebel and hated magic to the point she was willing to use it as a weapon to show how dangerous it could be but took it too far

I personally feel like human SS might've been killed but not by pony SS, possibly magic
Pony SS got so distraught by her death that she began to rebel and hated magic to the point she was willing to use it as a weapon to show how dangerous it could be but took it too far


Fun theory, sunset is actually an orphan from the human world that somehow was sent into equestria. Therefore the "other" sunset could still be somewhere in equstria


"Perhaps her pride and ambition would latch on to something else"

My wierdly crime-driven mind: A gang leader or a Mafia Boss!

@Sawtooth Waves After the Fall Formal, Twilight Sparkle and Spike return to the ponyverse and bring Sunset Shimmer to Princess Celestia. Princess Celsstia took Sunset's horn away and send her to jail but now Sunset Shimmer can't teleport and she's an Earth Pony. 🎊🎉🎈🌌✨🐲🌅👑☀😡🦄☹🐴🪞

@Sawtooth Waves As a poetic theory, maybe Sunset Simmer doesn't have another version of her in the human world. And what about Starlight Glimmer, she too may not have one too in the human world as well. The names of these two are literally the complete opposite of elements, Sunset being the lasting sunlight, the harmony and guidance between both worlds, and Starlight, as in deep nightlight, the harmony and guidance of mainly the world of equestria and the harmony ambassador between the two worlds!! Just like the princess Celestia and Luna( they however do have human counterparts), but the only differences from these two is that Sunset, Starlight pair do not have human counterparts in the human world at all!!

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@Sawtooth Waves Sawtooth you won't believe it. Before you had uploaded this video on YouTube I saw a dream in which it was like Sunset ran in the room where the portal to the human world was (the mirror) And then entered it. Within a second she was in the human world and then she saw her human counterpart. They both shrieked and then Sunset covered the mouth of her human counterpart she spotted a place where nobody was going and took here there. She asked all sorts of questions which her human counterpart answered. After all her doubts were clear she gave an evil grin and said "I will take your place now" she kidnapped her and locked her in a nearby shop which was abandoned. She kept giving her food and water . After she got reformed she went to the place where she had locked her human counterpart and let her go and said " Go to another school and let us not cross paths" again and that was the last time she saw her human part.<br>This was my dream you thought she killed her and saw she kidnapped her.

@Sawtooth Waves Sawtooth you won't believe it. Before you had uploaded this video on YouTube I saw a dream in which it was like Sunset ran in the room where the portal to the human world was (the mirror) And then entered it. Within a second she was in the human world and then she saw her human counterpart. They both shrieked and then Sunset covered the mouth of her human counterpart she spotted a place where nobody was going and took here there. She asked all sorts of questions which her human counterpart answered. After all her doubts were clear she gave an evil grin and said "I will take your place now" she kidnapped her and locked her in a nearby shop which was abandoned. She kept giving her food and water . After she got reformed she went to the place where she had locked her human counterpart and let her go and said " Go to another school and let us not cross paths" again and that was the last time she saw her human part.
This was my dream you thought she killed her and saw she kidnapped her.

Your mind ain't weird for thinking that.

From the design of Sunset during that line, it was easy to think biker gang at the least

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@Sawtooth Waves What if we already have seen the human sunset shimmer? that's right I'm say the Sunset Shimmer that betrayed celestia is the human sunset shimmer.

there is three facts in the comic The fall of Sunset Shimmer.

1 She is an orphan when celestia found her.
2 She doesn't remember much.
3 she asked this: Where are my hands?

Human Sunset doesn’t exist confirmed by the creators.

@Rosella Seven Deadly Sins<br>Is what it’s really called

@Rosella Seven Deadly Sins
Is what it’s really called

By 'ambition' I don't think she wants power or to rush rewards. She's competitive. She NEEDS to actually be the best at what she's doing, rewards or no. It's not about the Parakeet!

@floverpot 13 I like it. It's of the previous Fairy King.

Hey, your pic is from the anime "Melodias and Elizabeth", right?


There's something else you should know by now; the mirror which leads to both Equestria and our world? It'll leave one naked without an extra pair of clothes. Don't go through without a second pair, your's will rip if you have them on.


Here’s a theory. I don’t think the original versions just disappear as Princess Celestia makes it seem to the Mane 6 ( minus T.S. ). I think they’re still there. What Celestia meant was that if the originals, the ones we see in Ponyville, and their human versions see each-other, that something will happen. Presumably dark magic? Maybe.


true true absoloutely true! And yeah, we just actually never saw a human counterpart of sunset!Maybe they will show us her later in the show.It might even be that sunset HAS a human counterpart and they know eachother which they keep swapping around with the mane six.I just hope they actually reveal one cause that would make an exciting story!:)


Ok I just wanted to say this, a pony going to the human world and trying to use a phone would probably be like a 75 year old trying to use a modern phone. 😂


Well, when we see that Sci-Twi was originally at a different school in the same city and only met the rest of her world's mane 6 because of a long standing interschool rivalry, plus shenanigans around the newly emerging magic, it is more than possible that EQG world Sunset is simply also elsewhere in her world, whether she's a failure or not. If another world copy of any of us popped into existence anywhere but near where we lived, and didn't become famous, or infamous, enough to draw world wide attention to themselves would we even know, except by the rarest of chance meetings? Look at when someone becomes famous, say by being elected to high office, and the media finds a doppelganger. No one knew until one was elected president or something that the other existed. If Sunset becomes that famous her human world double may appear, if she doesn't reach that level of infamy, we may never know. Unless Hasbro, because toys, lol.


(Sorry for this being long it was just a lot of stuff to say)<br>I once saw a fan art with I believe it was she-demon painted on Sunset's locker and her running away crying. This lead me to think human Sunset is avoiding people in Canterlot because no matter what kind of bullying it is there will always be people who think it's wrong and openly called out that person. I think happened was all of the hate that Pony Sunset gained was put on her human counterpart. I think this is likely because we see from the pictures of Sunset as Princess of the Fall Formal she looks so nice in the first picture even if it was an act why would pre-reform Sunset act nice if it didn't benefit her in someway. So if she was acting like her nice human counterpart imagine how her human counterpart felt all of a sudden all of your friends and the people you go to school with start calling you names and saying you're a horrible person and you have no way of knowing why. You'd want to leave and tell no one so they have no way of finding you.

(Sorry for this being long it was just a lot of stuff to say)
I once saw a fan art with I believe it was she-demon painted on Sunset's locker and her running away crying. This lead me to think human Sunset is avoiding people in Canterlot because no matter what kind of bullying it is there will always be people who think it's wrong and openly called out that person. I think happened was all of the hate that Pony Sunset gained was put on her human counterpart. I think this is likely because we see from the pictures of Sunset as Princess of the Fall Formal she looks so nice in the first picture even if it was an act why would pre-reform Sunset act nice if it didn't benefit her in someway. So if she was acting like her nice human counterpart imagine how her human counterpart felt all of a sudden all of your friends and the people you go to school with start calling you names and saying you're a horrible person and you have no way of knowing why. You'd want to leave and tell no one so they have no way of finding you.


It's really unknown to weather Sunset Shimmer even has a human world Counterpart, it's probably to make Sunset more unique but it would be interesting to see.<br>Also I don't really think Sunny was evil enough to Kill someone prior to the first EQG so therefore Human world Sunset is still alive.

It's really unknown to weather Sunset Shimmer even has a human world Counterpart, it's probably to make Sunset more unique but it would be interesting to see.
Also I don't really think Sunny was evil enough to Kill someone prior to the first EQG so therefore Human world Sunset is still alive.