He tortured an 8 year old child, doing unspeakable things to her, then cruelly ended her life and yet this monster's response to the question "what's your biggest concern now?" is "losing my life". The cruel irony behind this is astounding. I won't ever understand how "humans" like this exist. I won't ever be able to wrap my head around things like these happening.
A normal human wouldn't do to others what he wouldn't love to receive if he was at that end of the stick, but in the mind of these people the end of the stick will never happen to them. They don't feel the threat. They can't see a little girl as a person because is just "somebody else". Is not them. They can control somebody else's life and end it, it's not theirs.
When they cry, when they apologize, when they realize what they've done, they're in reality crying for themselves, they're apologizing with the hope in their heart somebody will show their human side and fragility, not just the monster. When they realize what they've done, in reality they've just realized that their free life is over and will be spent in jail, mostly in solitary confinement to protect them from improvised knives and brass knuckles.
I don't want to imagine how that little girl felt because is heartbreaking. I don't want to imagine how her parents have felt. I just hope there's an afterlife for them where they will meet again. Poor little cub, rest in peace.
I feel the same. Sometimes I have to shut those thoughts out of my head because they will eat me up. There are so many selfless people out there but when I hear the people are also capable of doing something like this I really loose my faith in humanity.
@Moments "we're all like this" "not always to this extent." So you're saying we're all like him, even though we aren't like him bc we dont go that far? You really had to make another comment saying something that contradicts your previous comment bc it clearly wasn't true. Little to no empathy is very different to a good deal of empathy. Its not the same at all. No not ALL are this selfish, and disgusting. There are many people that actually care about others and hurting innocent people especially children. They wouldn't even want to think about those that do such things. So no not all are like this. And "not everyone being like this to this extent" as you said, means you're unlike this, therefore contradicting your previous statement, bc it goes to show not eveyone is like this. Lmao.
@TheGardenForgottenByTime Anonymous Anonymous must have got banned his comments are gone. He was a troll responding to everyone's comments with the same BS.
It was the woman who lured the kid that also killed her and disposed of the body she was so open with the police as she was hoping to pin it all on him and get away with the rest of it
Afterwards he caused over 3 million people to watch this cop talk for an hour solid
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Clinton Leonard2021-01-01 09:16:12 (edited 2021-01-01 09:21:43 )
@Moments Well said. We all do understand Mike, truly. We just don't all know that we do. Or it scares us, so we ignore it or pretend we don't. But we all do. That doesn't mean we all will do what Mike did, far from it, it just means that Mike wasn't special or different, he just was just given conditions that caused him to have perverted and delinquint tendencies. It could have been anyone. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be punished, either - just like he cannot help but be what he is, we cannot help but remove him from society. It just is what it is. Nothing special or incomprehensible, just sad.
Was the lacerated liver mentioned as part of Toris injuries due to the sexual assault? Jesus Christ, knowing thereās people like this out there in the world, makes me hope and pray that there is a hell.
All people who prey on innocent children would want the same thing. Majority of these monsters are hidden in plain sight, so when they do get caught, they literally don't know what to do except further deny it no matter what evidence there is.
āIn reality, no food was comingā - this made me laugh out loud. This one really upset me, and so I was caught off-guard. I just love the idea of this consummate professional asking over and over and over if he wants some food until he says yes, only to piss off and leave him. It seems almost childish.
Also, I like to think Iām above wishing harm on others, but Jesus this guy. I hope heās getting battered in prison. Nothingās too bad for him
Watching Rafferty whimper and whine in his piss blanket after brutally robbing Tori of everything she couldāve experienced in life made me want to jump through the screen and pummel him into a stain on the floor. Canāt believe these detectives managed to carry on the way they did, super professional
it makes me so sad and angry at the same time. Angry at the fact that this guy acts like hes some bulliying victim or something and sad for the fact that an 8 year old had to go trough this
Me an you both. It was his ONLY chance to muster whatever dignity he had in his psyche and yet he sat there sniveling like a bitch. āYou donāt care about me.ā Expecting the detective to say āoh I DO care about youā. I mean MAN UP and say āI have a problem. I commuted the ultimate sin and will face my punishment like a man and spend the rest of my life seeking forgiveness.
@Lena Pretty sure someone in the comments a while back talked about it being later found out that Terry (Terri? Teri? Tery?) beat Tori to death. Could be wrong, but pretty sure that's what was typed out. So no, not better at all
@The real Baimon then donāt reply to me if it doesnāt matter to you. We are watching a criminal psychology channel. Wtf are you doing here?
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The real Baimon2022-04-27 14:57:21 (edited 2022-04-27 14:57:48 )
@Hannah Gs ?, I was only criticising your comment because it seemed like you wanted to blame her kidnapping and helping abuse the kid (the woman who did it ) onsomehow being abused, when in reality they're both equally crazy and terrible people man.
@The real Baimon what did my comment say that made you believe I was defending her? Youāve given me about three different reasons for your vitriol thus far and none make much sense, tbh. Is it that what I said was conjecture, you donāt care why she did it, or that Iām somehow defending her? I think you got upset for no reason and now youāre backtracking to try and save face. Move on man.
@Hannah Gs My ex partner routinely left me a bloody mess after drinking sessions, but I never once wanted to kill a child with a claw hammer. Abuse or no, her smashing that child's skull in then breaking all of her ribs can NOT be excused by any amount of 'Abuse' by the boyfriend. Sorry.
@Steve Gad I have never once said that her actions could ever be excused by anything. I literally said āobviously not an excuse for what she did, but a possible explanationā.
@Nicholas Simon No problem, figured I would attempt to face check myself just to make sure I wasn't giving bad info. If I had, would've deleted my post
I LOVE how the second detective comes in and shoves the picture of Tori in his face & gets right to it. Michaels cowardice is absolutely astonishing considering what he had done to a 8 year old child. what a piece of sh...
monsters like him feel brave and powerful when they know the person they're up against is smaller, younger, weaker than them. michael curled up in his little blanket like a coward because he was finally out of his element and realized he's not strong or powerful after all.
@voice of reason youāre putting up lots of defense for this guy in the comment section almost like youād do something similarā¦ weird vibes brother āļø
Can you imagine how the child must have felt? The pain, the fear, the regret. She was only 8. She wanted to see a puppy. I lose faith in humanity when I learn about cases like these.
Think of these two terrible people, then think of the mountain of people in law enforcement, the local community, and volunteers that work to make sure people like Mike and Terry don't prosper.
Now look at what that mountain of good people reduced Mike and Terry to. A pair of sniveling, blubbering messes, one of which fessed up to what she did inside of an hour, with the other so crushed by the guilt that he was in denial of the evil act he committed just to maintain his sanity.
That sheer force of good made that bit of evil tiny and weak, because there is always more good than evil in the world. Think on that next time cases like this get you down.
Are you sure about that? Hell be in lock up 23hrs a day and by himself the other hour.... let's not forget Terri-lyn had a social life and girlfriend while in GVI Kitchener. Word of mouth says she's having the 'time of her life' in thereššš¤¦š¼āāļø
You lose faith in Humanity even though his accomplice couldn't stand the guilt and turned herself in, thousands of people aided in the search, this video is about the criminal justice system punishing people who commit these crimes, and these comments are full of thoughts and prayers for the little girl and her family.
Yet, you're focused on the one broken, despicable Human involved. Ok.
yeah horrendous mate each and everyday at anytime anyone could be that killer imagiine that goin thru your mind everyday humans are savages of the planet simple has
This is also me evey time.. Always put my shoes to victim's relatives and thought something awful for revenge. But, then i brushed it off watching some cat videos after or thedodo. š world has really some darkness in it but never forget its the same world full of beautiful, kind and loving people also cats and other creatures.š
Will S they say that to them to build repore, to gain trust, and to down play the severity of the crime. Itās to try to get a confession. Iām sure on the inside the detective was ripping his head off.
LaBi - I know it,these things haunt me and I sometimes can't stand to be on the same planet with these men (and women). I can't believe these are real humans, and yet I can't come up with an appropriate name for them.
TomsaiiLad Itās Canada. There arenāt the types of people in prison as in the USA. Heāll live the rest of his life in an apartment in a prison. With rehabilitation classes, arts and crafts, tv, etc.
@Fila Sophies Absolutely. Furthermore, we must talk with them about inappropriate behavior wherever it takes place, because unfortunately not all child-rapists are strangers.š
Fortunately they comprise a microscopically small portion of the population. You'll probably go through your life never seeing, much less meeting, someone with this kind of evil within them. The danger of mass media is that we can experience the primal human fear of "someone within the tribe is dangerous" by finding examples from a world of 7.5 billion people.
As a mom, I dont know how I could go on knowing the gory details. I would feel so guilty i wasnt with her to stop what was happening. These stories make me hug my daughter and tell her how much I love her. I cant imagine what her poor parents are going through. ššš
@Defqon are you trying to argue? Jeez oh wiz. I'm not just talking about murderers, I'm talking about people in general. You don't have to be a murderer to be evil. How about broadening your perspective a tad ...
@Defqon I mean if it has 20 + likes as you put it it seems to me a lot of people agree with my assessment. Could it be that maybe you're wrong? Wait, wait , wait, I forgot that's a complete impossibility. Please don't hang me your highness...
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Chris Shockey2020-10-17 13:33:27 (edited 2020-10-17 13:34:47 )
@Defqon no. I was simply pointing out that a lot of people have the same point of view that I do . Also, if you read my comment "very" carefully I didn't say that there was definitely more evil people in the world. I just said it "seems" that way. Key word seems....
@Defqon I'm not real sure how we ended up on Wild Kingdom but animals attack and kill because if they don't they don't eat. Not really the same thing. Unless of course you're a cannibal...
I want to know why the hell her caretakers never told her to not follow strangers. Especially one who offered a puppy? That's the oldest trick in the book.
@Holy Hand Grenades My faith in humanity wouldn't be reinstated by watching people get tortured no matter how heinous their crimes were, and I'm terrified of people who do get their faith in humanity restored by that
@Marco Vargas it's hard to handle this kind of shit, just like in life itself the bad sticks out more for a lot of people. i mean it's atrocious, it can be hard to focus on anything else. i have only seen pain n suffering in my life and consequently i focus on it way more too
@Azzy what's sad is that you're wrong. i mean i know about twenty people who have been molested, maybe you just mean this kind of violence but that trauma alone will ruin you.
@mystyk šļø You know twenty people who were molested as children after being abducted, and then murdered? No, you don't. Truth is that people like Michael Rafferty are rare and nothing to lose faith in humanity over. And the other truth is that you know a bunch of people who had bad dates or morning regrets and blamed their partner.
@Azzy Ā @AzzyĀ no. I'm 18 dude and i don't know all of them personally, i know a few personally. I'm talking childhood abuse, not some kind of weird unstable one night stand. i know it's absurd and i figured you'd accuse me of lying but i mean it's a fair amount of people i know for a fact it happened to. like i said i'm sure children are killed less often but people are molested more often than a lot of people think unless it's just my area for some reason.
@Azzy i literally said 'maybe you meant this kind of violence' and i was speaking only of csa. my comment takes like two seconds to read in full dude jfc
@mystyk šļø I'm not accusing you of lying. I'm accusing (many of) them of lying, because it has in the last few decades become fashionable to be a victim. Of course, you may be interacting with people from a particularly bad areas as you say and I may be wrong. That is something to consider, and that kind of evil definitely exists in higher abundance in certain places, but I've seen so many examples of people exaggerating that I've become fully cynical about the topic and assume a lie until proven true.
@Azzy i think it's interesting how our perspectives differ based on our different observations, like i have rarely seen people lie about it but i know it happens more often than I actually see too. and faking it or twisting it to fit your narrative is horribly offensive to people who really have gone through it. not to mention what can happen to the accused. i mean it's horrible and to fake that for attention or satisfaction.. idk i always initially feel some kind of disgust even for this kind of skepticism cus it just isn't fair to actual survivors. but that's like entirely the fault of people who fake it. anyway i would remain impartial no matter what you see like unless it's blatantly obvious.. try to use ur best judgement cus i mean the actual survivors don't deserve this
@Defqon Have a good day dear. I pray that whatever you're struggling with that's making you put hate into the world goes away. I know that you want me to argue with you about imaginary things that you've created in your mind (which is what crazy ppl do), but I am not. I'm sorry about whatver you're going through in your personal life to make you carry on this way, but it's not normal. Grow up. Learn to love yourself. And others. Let's make the world a better place. Not add to the pain and ignorance. God bless you sweetheart. ā„ļø
@Defqon Pfffft. When your life is threatened, you don't sit there and think deeply about 'regrets' - that's ridiculous. Esp. an 8 year old. She'd be too busy screaming and crying and trying to figure out how to escape.
@Defqon If you've been watching these, the psychologist clearly states over and over that the interrogation tactics to put fear into the perp are so their thinking will be clouded. Because people can't think when they are afraid. Especially a child.
@Fila Sophies studies have been done that show even kids whoāve been taught to fear strangers will easily forget and follow a stranger. The same thing with gun safety. You can teach your children all you want, kids still sometimes do things they shouldnāt. Itās not the parentsā fault.
@Chris Shockey i disagree . You just heat a lot about these monsters. but honestly if you walk through town everybody should apreciate the kindness of yellow human beings. I get your point im just saying
I don't imagine that stuff because it makes me overly furious.. If I got my hands on him I would literally pull his eyes out and make him chew them if he didn't pass out.
@Buchi Chu same! These stories break my heart as well and as a new parent I absolutely cannot fathom how the parents must feel. I'd break down and probably never be able to pick myself back up. I hope this sicko gets his kharma
@Will S I could never lie so easily knowing what this detective did like- MMM NOPE, I get it's for the voluntary admittance but still not for me good on the detective for being good at his job.
I loose faith when the punishment for this is a life sentence when he should have been beaten to death or torn apart by wild animals. Let the victims family have the pleasure of taking him out any way they see fit. If it were my daughter, thats what I'd want to do. Ironically the system is the letdown here, not the perp. If killers like this were handled that way, you'd see a drastic reduction in little girls getting snatched up like this. In a way, you are preventing shit like this from happening by terrorizing a shit bag who does that. Then all the other shit bags who are thinking about it will have 2nd thoughts when they see an angry father take revenge for his dead daughter....
Do not let these so called human piece of shiiiitttteeee defeat you. They wanna break you and be like them..no regards for others ,not to mention towards an innocent child. I drew the line here..if such act was towards an adult you can butter, strech and argue that the victim somehow deserve what they got when they kick on old lady down the stairs to make you feel better..,know what i mean.? Anyways.. Stay strong and safe..!
I agree. Teach your children not to be trusting. Even towards family members and friends. There are a lot of predators out there and they donāt care about anything but their own sick agendas
@Buchi Chu I agree 110% with you. (110% is not a mistake, I really MEAN IT). I would offer myself to the parents FREE OF CHARGE to make them really suffer before they die!!!! When kids are hurt, I would have NO MERCY AND NO PITY AT ALL with these ... ''people''!!!
@a speedingdrunk No, humans arenāt. Some people are awful, but they are few. The majority are good, and the way we know this is that the majority of people in the world find people like this to be abhorrent.
@TomsaiiLad That's true, which is why we want to make sure the people who goes to prison really deserves it. Which why interrogations like this is very important in cases where there is no evidence. In the past for the case of Jodi on this channel, or at least I think it was Jodi where the mother left her child to rot in the back of her parents car trunk, she was found not guilty.
Yeah but I regain a little faith when I see the detective berating this piece of shit and letting him know that he's got hell to look forward too in prison.
I wrote this comment on the video, I just can't process this, it seems too disturbing to be real, my god, what that family must have went through, I just cannot fathom. This is just so twisted and I feel so twisted up inside about what that child experienced before her murder.
*This one made me want to throw up, I cannot imagine how much pain that child endured before that grisly gruesome death. I've had a really strong opposition to solitary confinement because of how inhumane it is and some people have been forced to endure it for decades which is essentially torture. That said, I feel like this demon deserves to be put into a cage too small to stand up straight or fully lie down with a blinking light that just serves to attract flies and moths and fed bread and water for the next 10 years, then throw him in general population so he doesn't miss out on the brutality of other criminals. Normally I'm cynical and just see murderers and thugs placing themselves above child molesters as a naked attempt to prove to themselves that they aren't the lowest of the low and that they operate according to some moral compass, while that's technically true I don't buy into them not being scum of the earth but in this one case thugs and murderers are objectively and absolutely above this monster and he shouldn't be deprived of learning that.
I know that rationally there are really good reasons that we have rights against cruel and inhumane punishments and that this impulse is ugly but damn my mind is so clouded with rage right now I can't fathom any of those reasons.
Edit: I also hold virtually the same sentiments towards Terri-Lynne, I don't believe in hell but if there were ever people who deserved it. Paul Bernardo and Karla as well.*
@Marco Vargas it's still fair to lose faith because this act happened. All the good will that came out after was positive, but it doesnt negate the event. What happened to this poor girl was a tragedy, and undermining someone's opinion on it is kind of ridiculous.
@Uncle Doctor Gosh, thank you so much for this comment... I've been depressed for so long and often struggle to find the good in life, never thought to look at violent crime from this perspective. Although I do not know you, I know that you are a wise person. Thank you.
@Janek O you're welcome, I can't empathize with you but I can offer some more sage advice.
You can drop everything and everyone you know right now. Your mother, father, brother, sister, extended family, friends, pets, co-workers and associates, you can leave them all behind and run. But the one person you will never outrun, is you. Life isn't about living, it's about living with yourself.
The good news is that yourself is also the one person you have full control over changing, can't do that with anybody else on the planet. Make peace with yourself, and do it by making yourself the best version of it that he/she can be.
@Chris Shockey I don't think thats true bad people maybe but evil like this is an albeit massively to large in its miniscule percentage of humanity. Which honestly I can't accept it being called humanity not while I am a human, but real evil like this is not what I believe is common then again how could I not distance myself cognitively from reality if that was the truth ..... I think its a crime that these things are allowed any human rights whatsoever tar and feather em or stockades ,fuck, i almost said crucifixion but ........i apologize just venting
I honestly don't want to have children because of this. Hearing those stories is enough to break my heart and I can't imagine their families feel and suffer.
As the father of a 3 year old bubbly little girl who is always so full of life, cases like these absolutely break my heart. I couldn't imagine my baby not coming home one day because some sick bastard decided to take her from this world.
Very important to drive home the ānever talk to strangers ruleā¦.ā my parents exposed me to true crime and child crime at a very young age and this protected me on the one instance I was nearly kidnapped by two strange white men. Even as a 7 year old boy my exposure to the reality of the world saved me from whatever those two were planning. In this case I wonder if they had those talks with herā¦.RIP
@Chris Shockey if there were more evil people than good then civilization would crumble and cease to exist. We arenāt perfect, but weāre good overall
š¢ I know Iām crying. This is so sad. Iām going to teach my future kids about this stuff. My mom told us when we were kids about Samantha runion she was a 5 year old girl who was kidnapped and raped and killed. We never forgot that story. One day my friend and I were walking on the road and a guy offered to give us a ride and we ran away. It was pouring rain and of course we wanted the ride but this story stuck in my head.
The fact that this is such abhorrent behavior that most humans violently oppose should be all ya need. The fact that occasionally some skid steps out and it gets highlighted shouldn't paint anyone's picture of our pathetic species. Now, the many ways we're collectively driving ourselves and other species extinct, sure. But not this.
An adult cant share the feeling, as adults we understand what was happening even by words, a child has no idea what is happening. That feeling would be a mix of fear of unknown and being in a completely strange territory with strangers that as adults, again, we cant replicate.
This case seriously broke meā¦ my heart dtill hurts knowing that little girl trusted rhat woman , and she led her to her demise .. i hate her just as much as i hate him ā¦ only thing that makes me feel bettee is knowing his life is going to be miserable in prison , and hes going to get stabbed and fucked up and ask to be in solitary the rest of his life and eventually hang hinself ā¦ and thats getting off easy ā¦
I want to know where the kids mom was when they took her from a freaking Home Depot? Young children should be glued to you where ever you go. You donāt see any animal in nature not being around their children.
Even Jesus said that those who harm the little children would be better off tying a heavy weight to their leg and jumping into the sea. I absolutely hate pedophiles and child abusers. I donāt use the word HATE lightly, either. They donāt deserve to share the planet with us, and I pray as we move forward as a planet we can increase the severity of their punishment.
I have an 8 year old right now. They are so innocent and fragile. I couldn't imagine someone capturing and hurting him. Those poor parents have to live with this forever.
@Chad Travis Dude itās so sad. Buy wtf kind of school letās an 8 year old child get in a strangers car ? Also what parents letās their 8 year old walk home from school. Sighā¦
@Patryk wie Itās just them though. If you want to see a broken, greedy, corrupt and immoral race of beings look no further. The way we human beings live and created this society is absolutely pathetic. Human beings suck so hard.
@Will S yeah, I donāt know how these investigators do it. I couldnāt keep a straight face and would find it hard to use the rapport building techniques. Fucking disgusting individuals.
I just think she never even got the chance to regret. Like she could have never known based on her age and experience. This is one of the saddest murders heās covered and it breaks my heart that millions of children today experience this still
I don't understand how anyone can kill a child & live with themselves. To steal from that little girl the life she was suppose to have - her friends, her high school graduation, her first-love, her first-paycheck... to snuff-out all that promise & potential for a fleeting moment of... what? As an atheist, I regret not believing there is a hell for them to burn in
I know its heartbreaking to hear what that poor little girl went through. This animal deserves to be put to death including that pos who helped kidnap her. May she rest in paradise.
Shhit LaBi you comment just made my evening so sad ... it really brought me to tear thinking from the childs point of view. Why is there people like that in this world.
@Chris Shockey chris, your remark is rather stupid. if you relieve think that's true, go outside in the middle of the night and count how many people walk by without murdering you, I'm telling you it's a lot higher than the people who would. 90% of people in society aren't sick minded like this.
Even worse is knowing for 100% sure that somehow somewhere, this child rapist and killer has his own defenders on the Internet along with those who deny the fact of what he done.
Mankind best solution still doing everyday is by doing this š And mumbling about fictional Word about something something in above them Even though it's just space dust up there
@roh_gamu thatās what i do not get. Why did 5he school let her leave alone? why was the girl terri allowed to take her? arenāt there suppose to be people making sure only designated people pick the children up?
@Maya Being angry at monsters like these and still not irrationally finding fault with our entire species are not mutually exclusive. Go for a walk, you seem high strung.
@Marco Vargas the part where you said she TURNED HERSELF IN. no she did not. she was in custody and either someone else recognized her in the video OR MORE THAN LIKELY she thought she could get out by telling on her partner in crime.
@Marco Vargas lol you're the one pressed because you feel the need to correct people's feelings of empathy and take their words of it at face value. Nothing's irrational about losing faith in humanity when you see these things, you just had to be such a nitpicking virue signalling guy who calls people out for being emotional
@KevinShinwoo maybe they did, but we are often warned about strangers and strange men, not specifically strange women. Which is what makes this case a perfect example of teaching your children that women are not safer than men. PEOPLE can be dangerous
@Marco Vargas thoughts and prayers, mean nothing to the people affected by something like this. Apart of you dies when something like this happens. Unfortunately theres people who dont understand the endless devastation something like this case causes until they get a taste of something similar, and alot of the time that event doesnt happen and thats good because from personal expierence i wouldent wish that suffering on anyone with a good conscience.
@TomsaiiLad that offers little comfort. Iāll admit itās nice to know heāll be paying for his actions but it doesnāt bring Tory back. I have two girls and if this happened to one of them it would absolutely destroy me.
Half way I can relate, I was 8 when I got raped. I wasn't killed though, but back then I wish I was. I can't understand how interrogators can do their job so well. I'd never be able to go to a child rapist and say "mistakes happen". The only mistake was his birth. The only mistake is him being alive. I wish sweet death to this child rapist, all child rapists. But torturous death.
Humans caught him. Humans will punish him. Humanity will make mistakes. Humanity will stumble. Humanity will fall. But we will get back up. We will keep going. We will try to make it right.
I hear what you say. Fortunately the world is full of people who would give their lives to save a child. At least that's what I think and get hope from.
The thing to remember is humans are animals evolved from Apes with 'Possible intervention?' Anyways look at how animals savagely kill each other for food, You would think we as humans are better than animals but; fact is some of us are still animals and have throwback Genes inside us. I personally would love to get my hands on this guy and do what he did to the little girl to him! (Besides you know) Am I an animal for wanting to *ILL this guy? Don't let it get you down there are plenty of good people but at the end of the day we are just animals is fancy clothes.
@That_Goth_bitch Just wondering, does that mean someone who commits a crime against an elderly person isn't as bad? Because that person isn't going to live with it their whole life, or many years of life aren't taken away from them like with a kid (or even middle aged person)? That's kind of what your logic implies, but I'm just wondering?
Lose it already. Save yourself time. Only God is good. Some people are good according to our standards, and we can learn to trust individual people to a degree. But even they will let you down at times. Everyone is capable of great evil. Given enough time and the right circumstances, I'm certain everyone would sooner or later show that. Never trust humanity, because there's no question that we're fallen and messed up.
@retrophonic People like him have been around for eons. I am so glad they've discovered DNA etc.....and they can examine a victim to prove what was done.
forget about the romantic view on humanity there is the most beautiful and there is the unspeakably ugly they both exist .. just take it in and move on .
@Alexandra G_1994 She's not evil, but she IS a coward, an enabler, and a selfish person. It's not excusable either way, but it is different than committing the crime. She should have stopped it. She didn't, and she should be punished for that. The maliciousness isn't there, though.
Don't have to, unfortunately. I survived in my case, but you're correct that the pain, fear, and shame is one of the worst things a person can feel. It's awful.
@Chris Shockey Don't worry. Reporters ignore the good. Noone clicks on an article about someone giving an orphan a home, or helping a list child find their mother.
@TomsaiiLad I wish people would stop pushing the bullshit rhetoric that monsters like him suffer in jail. I know it's to make people feel better about themselves but still, it's never true. He's literally been moved out of max security to medium and has even been able to enjoy extorting money from family, friends and strangers while behind bars. Believe me he isn't suffering sadly.
@Chris Shockey This simply isn't true, and getting out into the world regularly would prove it. All people are flawed but there are very few evil people and a whole lot of good ones.
After physical bullying I developed severe anger issues, for the next 3 years of my life I kept fighting against myself in my head that I was eating shit during every meal. While eating tomato or chilli sauce I fought against myself in my head that I was eating menstrual period blood. During EVERY single second of those 3 years I also kept fighting against myself in my head that the bullies were sodomizing me and my family members. As a result I severely couldn't concentrate during exams and classes.
I am still having self esteem issues 14 years on from the incident.
I went to army and didn't do some admin work due to fighting myself in my head and army people thought I was lazy and thus bullied me as well.
This is why I have zero sympathies and zero tolerance for bullies. I am 31 years old and don't even have a wife now, partly sabotaged due to bullying. I went to teach the bullies a lesson by cyberbullying/harassing them online, the bullies were so "strong" until they went to call the police LOL, but like I mentioned above, I have zero regrets :)
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Andy Ng2022-05-06 05:21:52 (edited 2022-05-06 05:22:06 )
@Christopher Spotts ya I am seeing a counsellor but my point is in extreme cases like my life I opted for vigilante justice without regrets
@Christopher Spotts it is not easy for me to tell the counsellor that I fought against myself that I was eating shit during every meal and they were sodomizing me and my family members every second
I just hope she didnāt know what was happening. Like understand what was being done. Do young children have the concept that they are going to die? I hope not for this childās sake. May she Rest In Peace
@Infamous Teaching us to trust and obey grown ups, even strangers. What were our parents thinking? Our only hope is the internet where we can speak freely about the problem. I still sometimes wonder if my parents wanted me to be meek and obedient for my good or theirs.
Would it make you feel any better knowing he's in the beginning stages of drug withdrawal and it will take a couple of months before it gets better? In the meantime he will vomit/shit half to death. Haha.
Dragons and monsters do roam Earth. Hopefully we donāt cross paths with one anytime soon.
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Julio cbp2022-04-08 15:43:55 (edited 2022-04-08 15:44:38 )
47:53 "The detective has become understandably emotionally invested in the case,"... he definitedly has. He was the one who discovered Torri's decomposing body.
I have met a pedophile in jail here in India, because I was researching about how criminal's think while committing a crime. It was for a screenplay I've been writing and this criminal who raped a 7 year old kid told me something that totally destroyed me. He said, and i quote "I thought that the child would like to be raped because I myself wanted to be raped when I was a kid".
I went speechless after listening to this and that was the moment I realised that i was literally talking to a real monster.
I've used that "are you a monster or just made a mistake" strategy. It works so well when it comes to someone who is even slightly remorseful or who just wants to save face.
On one hand, it's great to see this pathetic human being suffer in fear but on the other hand. That officer deserves a oscar, tony, Grammy and every award ever to sit there casually drinking his coffee and tell this guy that what he did is normal, simple mistake, etc and that hes a good guy. Amazing work by the detective
I just wish we could have seen him beat the "suspect" with a pipe. Maybe in crimes like this the convicted should have to live through a recreation of the crime only with themselves as the victim. I hope he gets a jail cell with big Bubu for the rest of his life and they get plenty of alone time.
He is trained to do so, but it takes a special person to be able to do that, he is probably a rambler and over elaborator to begin with, who loves the sound of his own voice.
@TANKTHEARC As explained in the commentary that is part of the technique. It keeps the suspects mind racing and unable to think clearly. Police here donāt use the terrible US / TV drama style Reid technique, which produce false confessions.
@TANKTHEARC Well Tank Iām not sure what video you watched but you obviously didnāt watch the whole thing because he only talks constantly during Phase 1 until they go to the Good cop bad cop routine. He then has plenty of chance to talk for the rest of the video. Just because you got bored doesnāt mean there was something wrong with the police technique.
@TANKTHEARC its not like by the end of it he was basically stating the suspects guilt as if it was a fact with absolutely no resistance ir denial on the suspects part. Called him a monster and a sick puppy and the killer didnt even attempt to deny the accusations. Thats totally not going to have a significant effect in a court of law.
@Billy Elden Ring nope, has no relevance, you are free to ignore allegations.
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Billy Elden Ring2021-12-20 22:33:54 (edited 2021-12-20 22:38:54 )
@TANKTHEARC you are also free to call a lawyer at any point. The relevance is that an inoccent man would at least protest his inoccence when called a murderous child rapist. It goes even beyond that, an inoccent man would be furious at even the implication. Thats not how an inoccent man behaves. If you cant even pick up on that, no wonder why the work of an extremely competent forensic pshyquistrist comes off as bad to you.
Criminal minds is a fantastic tv show, basically this great FBI team of the BAU division, basically gather a profile of killings to catch the serial killers. Now this guy here is apart of the Ontario police analyst unit, not only is he apart of it but he runs it. Itās incredible to watch it in a real life setting rather than a fictional story. Bravo.
@Billy Elden Ring the problem just is that depending on personality and situation even innocent people sometimes don't deny a crime they haven't committed and as you can research yourself interrogation tactics that include allegations and judgement are statistically much more likely to produce false confessions
My dad would be a great interrogator, it seems.. he never stops talking (:
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Billy Elden Ring2021-12-21 20:00:24 (edited 2021-12-21 20:00:51 )
@Franziska Wild it is extremely uncommon though. It has to be someone extremely agreeable, and what trully makes the diference here is the severity of the crime. It doesnt matter how meek or timid you are NO ONE in their right mind would just accept being accused of raping and murdering a little girl. No one. Ever.
@Billy Elden Ring not always the case though, depends on the persons demeaner, ther was a case of a guy calm without being angry in an interview because he knew he was innocent. later it was found the suspect was a short white man and he was a tall black man,
@TANKTHEARC even in that video, its explained that his calm demeanor is extremely rare, and immedeatly after they show another inocente man with the typical response. He is frustrated, making eye contact and directly challenging the accusation. But both of those cases where of pretty crime(and even then the typical response is being frustrated at the accusation). We are talking about a whole diferent level of crime here. Its not just rape, its not just murder. Its both of those things done to a child. If a false accusation of petty crime typically gets a heated response, imagine the response when its literally the worst crime possible.
Honestly, the detective has the speaking capacity of my kids telling me in depth lore about a show I give 0 fucks about. And that guy wasn't even giving him a "That's really cool buddy"
Ends every...single...sentence....with either "ok?" or "alright?"...I couldn't even hear what else he was saying after awhile because I just kept hearing those 2 words
@John Jacobs I beg to differ. It absolutely does happen in prison. Not all the time but it's not exactly a rarity either. And I'm against it happening or being condoned in almost all situations. But I also believe this guy deserves exactly that.
@stilltlrforlife they arenāt trained to talk non stop, they are trained to say whatās needed in order to coax information from suspects, which is the whole point of an interrogation. This guy just had too much coffeeā¦
@Paul lol how is he āreally goodā? What info did he himself get the suspect to confess? The explanation in the video about it being a technique is true to a certain extent, in certain situations but at some point you have to allow the suspect to speak or you defeat the entire purpose of the interrogation. The call was made to send the second cop in for a reason. If the first was doing so great they wouldnāt have had to change up the strategy so quickly. Someone higher up was watching the feed and made the call to try something else because it was going nowhere. And no, this isnāt who interrogated Minassian, not even close..
@Jameson G.A. I think it depends on who teaches tactics and the personality, I agree this guy talks too much, although my cousin was an investigator and detective for a police department here, I remember him telling me about depending on a suspect's behavior and personality will lead the interrogation to keep pressure on in many different ways, but yes, this guy yapped waaaayyyyy too much, I want to show this to my cousin and see what he thinks about the tactic used.
@Jameson G.A. Go watch the Interview: Jim Smyth: Colonel Russell Williams Interview Interrogator (2021) and get back to me. The guy's a master interrogator. I can tell you're an American who's watched too many cop shows.
To those commenting that the investigating/interrogating officers did a bad job: don't forget Michael had already been advised by legal council, which makes this work umpteen times more difficult.
@Paul Agreed, esp. one of the investigator's successes in the David Russell Williams case - as mentioned above. In that case Williams had not been advised by a lawyer, big difference in what the investigators could and could not do.
Yo he got me ready to confess to everything and I didnāt even do nothing, the ability he has to put words together is astounding and his stamina is unmatched!!!
It didn't turn out to be a good technique in this case. When someone just rambles on it actually makes it easier to keep quiet, especially if that's how you're inclined going into the interrogation. It would have bene better if he had asked more direct questions and stayed silent until the suspect answered. It's hard to stay totally silent when someone asks you a direct question as it's too awkward.
"I'm sorry sir, we can't serve you a Mcflurry. The machine is turned off." "Now, that's not true now is it? You can't just look at a machine that's turned off and be like 'oh I can't use it' and let it be the end of it, alright? Sometimes turning on a machine is as simple as flipping a switch or plugging something in the outlet, and there you go you've got a working flurry machine. Or maybe it's not that simple, maybe you don't know how to turn the machine on, maybe you're not allowed to turn on the machine, maybe the only person who can turn on the machine is the manager or a mechanic. Maybe you mispoke and the machine is actually broken, but the thing is I can't know unless you tell me, okay?"
@Enflamed Huevos I'd be fixing the machine out of fear. Imagine just working your damn shift at the DQ when suddenly a man just starts multi choice questioning your entire soul.
Five hours later, that drive-thru attendant finally admitted to killing the regional McFlurry mechanic. In a bizarre twist, the mechanic had been a member of a rival hockey team when he was young, and with a totally obvious but uncalled slashing penalty had prevented the attendant's breakaway chance with pro scouts in attendance.
This video made my stomach churn several times. That poor child. Breaks my heart as a father of two young children. Unfathomable tragedy what she went through. I cannot wrap my head around the evilness.
As a female child that walks to school and is around men a lot (like most people) it really just use these types of cases to educate myself on signs of child predators (or just bad people in general).
I feel so bad for her, all she wanted was to see a puppy. And then he sits there and acts like the victim.
What a PHENOMENAL interrogator. And his final words to Mike were just... wow. Even when delivering his scathing hatred he is eloquent. I should send Mike a needlepoint to his prison cell with those final words. "You're a hollow man. So it was nice meeting you Mikey. Enjoy the rest of your life. This is the kind of room you'll be spending it in."
@Wimmig Lmaoo the reaction of the cop DIRECTLY after this dude killed himself was just an mildly irritated sigh like "Ah fuck." and "Damn it. :\" Cops are hard asf
@Scorch428 some guy on jcs patreon channel who smuggled a gun into the interview room and then blew his brains out before he was even questioned. Think he knew he'd be doing life inside couldn't face it etc. The detective comes back in and finds him splattered and says 'you motherfker' as i remember
@Trap Lord So yeh but its within one of the compilations....cant recall which one.....the one where theres a study of how people behave in the room when the detectives aren't in there....escaping and stuff
Well, also he was trying one last time to let the child killer know if you don't talk and admit what you did im going to walk out of here believing you are evil and hollow without any type of remorse, And thats all he has to go on.
I'm surprised this Canadian cop didn't bring him a pillow and cuddle him and whisper sweet nothings in his ear.. He already gave him a blanket and offered him eggs, a cereal bar And a full breakfast if he wanted
The unrelenting steady monologue at the beginning is fascinating. The hypnotic quality of his voice is really powerful and shows just how incredibly skilled and perceptive the interrogator is. Iāve been looking at how voice, sound and music can be used as a powerful mind control technique used in cults, abusive relationships and propaganda. Itās like he has a tank full of psychological techniques and he just rolls right in and completely flattens this turd. These guys at this level deserve something about a million levels above an Oscar for their performances. Their talent and heart and benevolent presence in our world somewhat relieves the despair that one feels in knowing that all these psychopaths walk among us.
āskin cells from her rubbing up and down in your seats, in your car.ā ouch.. that hurt, that really just cuts deep. that exact sentence is what made my heart drop and really think about how horrifying his actions were. iām so sorry for her..
I cannot emphasise more strongly why I cannot work in law enforcement - I could never maintain the composure of this officer. I know my own limitations, and I leave it to others like him to direct these monsters to their fate. Real saliva on my screen from seething at this, atrocity of a human being. R.I.P. Tori, and my condolences to anyone forced to suffer the ills of this level of inhuman filth.
Giving fake anything is easier when you feel emotionally detached from the person, as counterintuitive that sounds. It is easier to lie to someone you hate than to someone you care about.
And there sure are plenty reasons to hate Michael Rafferty. They already knew he was guilty without a doubt.
I'm sure it gets easier overtime knowing that the result is pure concentrated karmic justice...it must feel amazing to pluck monsters like this out from society.
yeah seriously, but it comforts me to know but the more fake sympathy they show, the more dirt theyāll get on them in the end. the detectives really have to get in their heads sometimes to seal the deal, itās very impressive
Especially the part where he has to claim he's dealt with worse things and people to garner some kind of comradery. We all know that's not true, my dude. There quite literally is nothing more evil than this crime.
@Ich Du whatever you say lol, youāre job is 10x easier than this guys if you even have one. How about you just commend him instead of saying something dumb just to be different
@Colter L i never said that it is a easy or a hard job, it obviously will be harder/easier for different persons, and obviously he is very good at it, which i acknowledged
@Taekatanahu Its common place for those investigating crimes against children to suffer severe PTSD. These men are doing gods work and are deeply and forever scarred. š»
@Taekatanahu hating someone is not being emotionally detached. It's quite the opposite, you have very strong feelings of hate. And the point was that it must be hard to force sympathy for someone whom you hate. Investigators have to learn how to become emotionally detached though, because like you said, it's much easier to fake emotions toward someone who you have emotionally detached from.
@AboveAll itās a tiny bit odd youāre complaining about me replying when yet youāre replying to my replies. Hypocritical some would say lol. Have a merry Christmas kid lol
@Stephen Grabarek why would I waste my time giving fake sympathy to someone idgaf about? Thatās a waste of my time and theirs. Think before you speak bud
@Stephen Grabarek you said the same thing about Disney land again yet you complain of me telling you to quit taking drugs multiple times. I see the hypocrisy, do you??
A very nice payoff at the end, though: the family of the little girl watching Rafferty get the maximum sentence possible because the detectives are so skilled at what they do. I feel a sense of awe watching them play these monsters like a fiddle.
Donāt misinterpret this please. But I disagree. For whatever reason some people can just disassociate from the situation. Itās like these investigators are just the other side of the same coin as the murderers. They can hear these things and not break down. It doesnāt phase them. Itās kind of hard to explain but like it doesnāt impact them like it does your average person.
i think that too tbh idk how they can just give them fake sympathy and also reassure them sometimes but still completely shut down their fake scenarios of them being innocent
@Jonathan Ingram no. No matter how professional and experienced he is, heās still a human being and you can bet your bottom dollar he was deeply affected by the case
Yeah or being a lawyer trying to defend someone who did something like this. Lawyers arenāt bad people my dad is one but heās a workers comp defense attorney and defends business against false or unnecessary workers compensation claims.
To: JCS CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGY, I really want you to know how excellent of a job you have done on these high profile cases and your actual EXPERT analysis in laymans terms is appreciated and much respected. Ive seen these interrogations and case run downs by so many other channels and you are by far the best and most accurate. In Rafferty, impressive how you know the two detective investigators so well and strategy use. Most interesting is Chris Loins, Behavioral Sciences. Great Work. Investigator Chris Loins is the man. I like when he says to Rafferty, " you aint built for this shit, its not what your about."
I can't imagine what its like to walk into a place and know your never walking out even if you deny everything and stick to your story evidence is such a great tool that we use. I stick can't wrap my head around how people do these sick things knowing the consequences... I guess normal people can't comprehend that
Unfortunately there's lots of people get away with similar shit and tell others like this psychopath and they take the risk that others took and got away with it is the only way I think they would think while plotting to commit such Hynes crime
Where the mind goes, the body follows. Be careful what you allow your sense to be entertained by. It's easy and comforting to act like these people aren't human, but they most certainly are. THis is why the fight against the sexualization of children is so important in the West; it's enticing and creates perversions to these things. Humanism ultimately doesn't work.
Everytime i watch one the investigation videos, i am in awe of how talented, skillful, patience and great the detectives are at doing their job while having all the facts in front of them and still keeping their calm. Bravo
@Debj Watson Agree with that, Conversely watch the interrogation of Stephen McDaniel of how not to do an interrogation. Also JCS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkRjIq8Cp2A
He is and plays the exact image of "I am so much smarter than you and working against you, your lying does absolutely nothing." he shows so much pity and just "I wanna do my job, so stop messing around," its so demeaning and perfect to get a person into confessing.
@Mr. Macaques If you watch the full interrogation, the bad cop did try to entertain the possibility that Mike was innocent in order to get him to give a false alibi, but Mike said he was going to wait to talk to his lawyer.
@brainstewX I did watch the whole thing multiple times... If raffery said that then it would be even more important that they catch him in a lie before he sees his lawyer. But they have so much evidence that he will go for life no matter what crazy story he came up with.
@Phil Mitchell Boxing So this detective runs his mouth non-stop for an hour without letting the suspect even speak. He gets absolutely NO INFORMATION from the suspect in all that time. That is called a complete and utter failure of the goal of the interrogation. Someone needs to tell that detective lesson one of an interrogation: let the suspect speak.
I'm a Criminal Justice/ Forensic Psychology student; and although repulsive, I find these interrogation techniques with such seemingly normal but obviously severely twisted psychopaths fascinating.
Those detectivs are MINDBLOWING! Gosh, not even a second of hesitation or thinking over an answer, and such a smooth collab, pure cinema material, my respect! Could watch that type of work all day long.
There are not enough adjectives in any spoken language to describe how vile this man is. Someone with so little conscience can barely even be described as human.
I've always felt that I'm a pretty tough person, but no video makes me hug my daughters tighter than this one. It breaks my heart thinking of this poor little girl and the awful things she experienced.
@Sarah Dixon This guy is not Jim Smyth. He said his name was Chris Loam at the beginning. Then, at the end, Smyth comes in and grills the shit out of the suspect.
@Sarah Dixon Huh? I'm not patronising you. I don't understand what you mean. I wasn't trying to personally attack you. You said it was Smyth. I'm saying it wasn't.
@Michele šØš¦ Yeah... I realize it's a tactic that he's using, but I'd probably have a difficult time refraining from lashing out and slapping the shit out of him... and getting an even harder sentence, lol.
J H naw someone like that likes to hear their own voice all the time. He doesnāt shut up. I live twenty minutes from Woodstock. Know a lot of dudes that talk nonstop and sound just like him š³
@Michele šØš¦ Not sure about that.. It's an actual tactic that they use in interrogations. Basically to keep the mind racing and hinder their ability to think and come up with an alibi. Not to mention that there are other videos of the same guy conducting this interrogation, and he doesn't always talk like this. Pretty sure it's also detailed in other JCS videos as well.
J H I get that itās a tactic but this detective reminds me of several people Iāve met in my almost 60 years in Ontario. Heās the right person for the job. Iām betting he doesnāt turn it off. Just saying...
@J H faster sure but you can still have a pretty good trial as long as you have a mountain of evidence. Whether they plead guilty or not. There was a witness, dna, the autopsy, ect. There was no way he was walking out of this untouched. And some would say it looks even worse on his part if he pleads not guilty as that would show he has no remorse for what he did or anything of that sort
@Sarah Dixon nope! It's not Jim Smyth. That's Chris lone. Jim interrogated the woman. This is not an interrogation. They already had the evidence, the behavioural guy sitting with him is analyzing risk post conviction.
@Sarah Dixon Jim arrives in for the last 15min of the 4hr behavioural science guys interaction.. As seen in this video, but he didn't interrogate as comments suggest.
@Algernon Campbell there's a fresh upload of the x4 interrogation hours of that child killer by a channel called Red Circle Interrogations.. part 4 is the one hour Jim Smyth spent with the killer If y'all can't find it I'll drop a link šš»
Tami O I don't think he is actually. That detective voice was much softer. He didn't talk fast he was calmer and ....yeah it's just not the same guy. I'm almost positive
@Amirah Kukan part 4 of the four part interrogation is Jim Smyth. The other softer spoken guy was just a behavioural scientist who was taking opportunity whilst Mr Smyth was interrogating the girl in a different room. If you'd like the link to Jim Smyth one hour interrogation of the killer I'll fetch you it.
He controlled himself really well too. I can only imagine how angry he was seeing these cases over and over and over. The fact that he doesn't go rogue and just track these people down and take them out on his own is commendable.
Actually the detective really never gave him a chance to denie anything, redirected him every time he veered of course, yes this detective is amazing ... firm , no nonsense to the point. Luv itā£šš
He's wearing me down and I'm mostly innocent! And just watching this while having Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy via Psychopathic Pinnochio Politicians! Who should I call?!
He didn't confess š but I agree, the detective did his job well. I liked how he just would shut him up immediately when he started denying what he did.
@John Doe I agree, but if I think about it in terms of what the suspect didn't say or do, I can see the point of everyone saying the interrogator wore him down. His body language, his demeanor changed. He didn't become enraged while being bombarded with the fscts of the crime that any innocent person would loudly and emphatically deny (or at the very least try to argue their innocence). He was far from indifferent to what was being said - he never offered any counterpoints to the interrogator at any of the accusations. He cowers and eventually becomes even more of a sniveling mess. My opinion is, I think his actions, his crimes were so abhorrent and horrific, he was never going to say he did it, no matter what is presented to him that proves he did all of it.
God Bless this detective!! I would never be able to hold back my anger. If police brutality could ever be overlooked, this is the case!! 8 years old!! Imagine the anger you would have if you were that child's parents!!
This investigation specialist is such an amazing badass! I couldnāt even look at this guy, talk to him? Absolutely not. Itās awesome, almost a relief to know that thereās police in this world like this one.
I was extremely close to getting into law enforcement, but ended up not going through with it since I thought extensively about the types of people I may interact with (like michael) and what kind of effect it would have on me. I knew I wouldn't be able to handle it.
The horror and terror that that poor little girl must have felt haunts me bc I've seen his video a year or two ago this guy bad as they get. Thinking about what the sweet innocent girl went through is traumatizing for me to even think about it I can't imagine what it was like for her. I hope she's happy and health in heaven with the Lord.
I feel like his whole "vomiting fit" was an attempt for him to get out of the room. He thought they would take him to the bathroom and he would get some time alone as a break but I love that he handed him a trash can and said "use it. Do it in front of me it won't bother me" and all of a sudden magically he doesn't vomit or need to for the rest of the interrogation
I love the way the investigator even shot him down immediately with that. The moment that piece of shit put his hand over his mouth the investigator was already up and coming back with the trash can.
Apparently he was detoxing off heroin so he very well may have actually felt like puking. (Also explains the crying and the blanket.) I don't think he'd get very far out of the room in this state lol. Though it is a bit odd how he doesn't have to throw up again so who knows.
to be fair it could be real in a situation where someone is extremely stressed or under duress u can get physically sick and the reason y i think he didn't actually throw up was because he didn't eat anyhing
I realize this interrogation was two years ago, but I first Iāve heard of this case and watched the video. This interrogator is absolutely amazing. He uses so many tactics. He starts with using the victims name. Then switches to āthat girl,ā he talks so much, I want to confess just to get him to shut up. LOL. Amazing interrogator.
This interrogation was from 2009. The crime happened in 2009. Not 2 years ago. Toro would be turning 22 this July. Iām from close to where this happened and it was huge news
Just want to say I really enjoy your videos and your narration. I really like how you give facts and keep emotion out of it. I would have a very difficult time, especially with cases like this... I wish TERRIBLE things for this POS, and I would do that to him if given the chance.
Iām just gonna say as a Canadian we have super dedicated officers and detectives not always a great thing but Iām saying I know officers that have been on the force 10-15 years and they look 30. the dedication is amazing.
Incredible performance from that interrogator. The fact that he can sit there and act like that man isnāt a piece of dumpster shit, and do his job, and not let him deny his guilt is amazing. This man doesnāt deserve to get the release of death, he deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life.
His name is Jim Smith and he's a master of luring you into thinking he's your friend. It's actually scary how good he is. His interrogation of Russel Williams is very good and can be watched here - https://youtu.be/jJZv3z7FOt0
For some reason it really hurts my heart that Tori went with that woman because she wanted to see a puppy. She just wanted to see a puppy and instead this awful thing happened to her. I am so sad
it's beyond wrong, there's nothing ever okay about it. children need to be told outright that they must never follow anyone off the course they're meant to be on ie walking home from school or at the playground etc even if that person is familiar (like the woman was) or is literally anyone but the immediate caretaker that put the child there to begin with. that poor baby wasn't taught how to exist in a world of monsters and those monsters aren't being bred out of this corrupt world anytime soon. they are decay to everything they go near and wish to darken bright lights like innocent children, and so we just sacrifice, as a village, some of that innocence in them to warn them how to protect themselves when we're not there to. it's much less devastating than this, this is nearly unbearable
What I don't understand is why that chick even helped that sicko lure a child to his car. I mean, why? Why would she even want to take part in something like that is baffling.
albatross it is not as simple as teaching a kid to not go with anyone but their parent, grandparent or babysitter. Kids can be so easily manipulated. I watched a show a few years back where they took kids whose parents had given them that instruction. Then they had the parents and kids meet up in a park. Every kid, one at a time, was lured away by an actor. The parents were shocked as they really thought their kids had learned to avoid strangers.
OMG this is exactly how I felt too,that was what really broke my heart!my own little 7 year old loves dogs and puppies like many children...truly broke my heart when that was said š
This is the kinda story my mom would warn me about incessantly as a child. Honestly I wouldnāt have gone with anyone who promised me seeing a puppy because I had heard so many stories about that specific persuasion technique. Unfortunately I imagine poor Tori didnāt know about that.
I do not understand why parent is not there to pick up child, nor what school does not have supervisors ensuring children are getting on the bus or going with a parent? Why was she not taught, NEVER talk to strangers, and always go straight to the bus or stay at school till parent comes to get you? I do not understand. Child as young as toddler needs to be constantly taught to not go with strangers, and safety precautions. Make ls me so angry.
Byt then again, this could happen as they walk to the school bus, take a walk around the block, or walk home from school. I was a helocopter mom, and could not bear to have my eyes on my child. I was obsessed and scared when he had to walk to the school bus, ai made sure other parents and kids went everyday if I did not walk with him.
@yarnpower so crazy, I remember that show too but when I go to look it up, all I see is Joey Salads from YouTube. This was a legit show that would come on tv, I remember because my parents were obsessed with it. Thereās no trace of it.
@albatross I'm sure she was taught not to go with strangers. In Canada its common in school curriculum to teach about it. The problem seems to be that we always portray the "Bad guys" as like an old creepy looking man in a van trying to snatch kids off the street which isn't realistic. We need to make sure they realize that even kind looking young women and even other kids can harm you all the same.
It's really scary because even kids that have been taught that bad people will say things exactly like "will you help me find my puppy?" or "I have some ice cream/candy in my car for you", the kids forget that they've been warned about this & go with the person anyway. There have been pretend situations to show parents what their kid will do in specific situations... It's terrifying. P. S. I have an 8 year old who I regularly have these conversations with & worry that he'll be tricked into something. I'd rather scare my kid a bit & have him be super cautious. Also, we're (parents) being taught now to not even refer to people as "strangers", but rather "tricky people" because a stranger might say "well, my name is Bob, now we're not strangers anymore". Creepy & sick & a whole lot of other nasty descriptive words.
@Dejavu Psychic Speaks because parents have work and busses dont always drop kids off close to where where live. My parents have always gotten off work HOURS after school released us. The entirety of elementary school u had to soend an hour walking home every day because it was the closest my bus was willing to drop me off. Almost got snatched once šØ scary shit
We need to use this as a cautionary tale and warn our children to never go with a stranger anywhere for any reason and be very blunt and matter of fact
@albatross It's possible she was taught not to ever go off with a stranger or fall for the puppy trick, but got too excited and forgot what she was taught. Kids that young are often easily distracted and manipulated.
It makes me glad that, when I was younger, (about 12 or 13) I denied a car ride to my school because it looked like I was having a bit of a tough time. I had to put on a hoodie while holding a big clarinet case and then put my large backpack on. Before I could even assess who was in the car, my brain kicked in and said, "Do not accept this car ride by any means," because my mom would always tell me to never accept things from strangers. I don't think they were bad people because right after I said, "No, thank you," they drove off without another word. There could be a multitude of reasons for that, but it doesn't really matter much.
@JT Jones she likely was a victim as a young girl and he preyed on that part of her. She has felt being without any power and he lured and manipulated her into doing it and making him happy, gaining power back, it happened to her so itās āfairā shit like āyou went through it, donāt you ever see little girls and think how unfair it is that they live a life without a care in the world when we both know bla bla blaā
This happened not too far from my city. I remember when she went missing and all the posters up looking for her. These people didn't get enough, especially Terri Lynn. For a while she was in a healing lodge. I wish we had the death penalty here. I haven't seen the whole video yet, so it might be mentioned but apparently they're actually sending special food for him because guards were putting glass in his food. Let him eat the glass. He deserves more that that.
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Ben Cheshire2022-05-25 05:33:02 (edited 2022-05-25 05:33:15 )
I think the ābad copā shouldāve pulled the guys blanket away forcefully leaving the dude feeling naked, vulnerable ,and a lower sense of security.
There are some cases that are so unbelievably heinous and evil that the death penalty is the only way justice can truly be served. This case is definitely one of them. Every second that ticks by that a child rapist and murderer stays alive is a crime against humanity, even if the they are rotting away in prison for life (at taxpayer expense).
I truly admire the knowledge and patience of these behavioral psychologists and detectives being so calm and professional treating the humanoid monsters that are in front of them. I'd physically torture them until they told me all details about the case, plus all the sick fantasies they ever had.
T'is a sad and horrific prob two or three generation of narcissistic DID and other results from either their own parents treating their children like sh*t and poor education, watchng trash and trashy channels, groups et al :{
This kind of stuff happens every day in sweden and more than 90% of the guilty People who admitted to it they dont even get sent to prison sweden is fuckt
@Za1cko I was introduced to this aspect of Swedish culture/law enforcement through the girl with the dragon tattoo. Obviously it's a work of fiction, but I did a lot of background reading and the author was very much inspired by the judicial mentality in Sweden.
It disgusts me when these types cry. They dont get the right to feel anything other than eternal suffering. Buried alive and amputated with no sedatives, until the knocking stops is how I suggest justice be dished out to people like this.
You can access PlayStation 2 and Xboxes (no modem) in prison in the UK, if your convicted of hour average crimes, but u don't just get given it. you have to become an enhanced behaviour based on conduct which takes minimum 3 months and then you have to pay for it from your prison earnings. You earn between Ā£ 8-20 a week. It's a controversial topic, but the idea is to reward positive behaviour based on rehabilitation, but it's a myth that u just get given it. The prisoners will be working from about 8-4 mon-fri, and can only play it during lock down from about 5pm until 8 am
These analyses are brilliant, I feel guilty that I enjoy the technical aspects and forget or at least minimise the fact there is a tragic death of an innocent always involved. I kind of put it to one side, like it's done. EDIT. OK this one is different, this has the smell of the 1960s Moors Murders in Manchester. Hindley and Brady. She lures the kid then he does what he did. Horrific.
If you pay attention, around 29:00 the detective reveals what happened to Tori after she was abducted and taken to the HomeDepot and then her final resting place. The killer nods, ever so slightly as the detective retraces his footsteps.
One thing not really talked about is the emotional toll this takes on law enforcement. Think about the police who had to witness the discovery of Toriās brutally beaten body. Even the investigator who had to interview this piece of trash and pretend to be friendly with a person they probably wanted to strangle. Absolute masterpiece of a job done by the Ontario police.
Thatās actually something that is getting a lot more attention now. People in these kinds of jobs often suffer from ptsd, and the burnout rate is really high. Thereās been more effort and funding put into psychological services for the people who do these kinds of jobs, so that they can stay mentally healthy.
My uncle has been a detective for the last 20 years. A couple of months ago he divulged some of his experiences to his family just to get it off his chest. I can tell you that each and every murder, rape and other crime he witnessed stuck with him forever. Last year he left the force because of a burn-out. He was busy investigating a crime that implicated another cop on the force and he decided then and there he had enough of it. You have to be very strong mentally to deal with this shit on a daily basis. My uncle told me he initially kept going because the rewarding feeling after nailing the perpetrator outshone the bad. I guess it got too much in the end.
@Nettie Booth Just keep in mind that youāre doing an INTERROGATIONā¦that means you shut up & let the accused speak. Ask leading questions, not a dang novel they can ignore & simply listen toā¦..
I am pretty sure the detective is used to it. We humans get used to all kinds of shit, no matter how fucked up. He isn't acting he is just doing his job on autopilot, casually taking a sip of his coffee. No problemo. Probably a master at what he does aswell.
I do wonder if her parents told her never talk or leave with strangers. Iām not blaming the parents but I do wonder. Also if she were told, then how many times? Schools should be teaching kids that as much as the fucking pledge of allegiance
Iām thinking about the toll on Toriās classmates. This is the sort of thing I was terrified of at that age. Her classmates had to go through the reality that this happens, and happened to somebody they knew and loved.
My uncle was a police officer responsible for looking over evidence in paedophilia cases, after 20 years at the job he became a serious alcoholic and sadly killed himself.
I would not have been able to leave that room with him still alive, no way I could do that job, I would have a murder charge on the fist Chileās murder case I worked
@lowlowseeseeit was a small, safe town. I grew up in London, 30 min away, and I was told these things. Not so much in small town ontario. Small town ontario is safe. Typically.
42:40 , He says he doesnāt feel comfortable talking about it but the fact that he felt comfortable doing it is just plain wrong and disgusting. I will never feel any remorse for him and his actions.
This is horrific, that poor little girl. And that revolting woman that lured her to her rapist and murderer. And he's upset that if he talks he's going to loose his life & freedom. The detective is so good....I couldn't sit in that room with him remain calm. This will stick in my mind for awhile. so effin sad
This is the kind of case that cops need to have a plan in place for him to "escape" and get brought to a warehouse in the middle of nowhere so the families, friends, police, and members of the community can show up when they need to let off some steam and torture this guy for decades. I mean he gets the best medical care to make sure he doesn't die. The father could sleep there making sure he's always safe, and awake, and healthy. With enough time, and intensity, you could cause everything else about him to fall away. After long enough, he could forget everything before the pain. Eventually he will believe he's lived his whole life in that room in agonizing pain. He'll forget he had a family, friends, he could even forget his name. All he would know is pain. And when he's experienced enough pain, and he thinks he's lived his entire
I love the part when the second detective comes in and JCS basically says āthis isnāt part of any known technique, heās just livid and freestylingā
" How old are you, Mike? 28 years old? Get rid of your fucking security blanket and start being a man" The way that cop dragged this piece of shit was amazing.
"Thats why pencils have erasers! Mistakes happen :)" The amount of composure you have to have to sit two feet away from someone who not only raped murdered and manipulated a child, had 17g of child porn on his hard drive (Like jesus christ dude) and is whimpering like the puppy his victim never got to see, but also has the gull to sit there and DENY he even did it
Honestly I can see the efficacy of the technique of the police officer rambling on to tire the suspect out. I'm watching on YT and I've had to pause a couple times just to get a quick break before I continued and I can tell I'm starting to feel mentally fatigued only after a couple of minutes. Having to deal with this for hours would be super tiring. No wonder interrogators do things like this.
This interrogator deserves a raise. In fact anyone who has to listen to a play by play of Child S.A. definitely deserves sainthood. Iām doing my degree with hopes of helping children who have been S.A. and I know Iāll have to interview the adult perpetrators. Iām praying for self control!
He's not wallowing in his self-pity, though I'm sure there's a lot of it. What he's doing here is acting. Pure evil. He thinks if he looks pitiful enough, it'll influence the interrogators and, later, the jury. It's not until after the interrogator tells him innocents don't act like how he's been acting that he stopped his insufferable fake sniffling and commitment to looking down.
It looks like he's completely broken. It mostly isn't an act tbh, but he's not being like that out of remorse, he's just scared out of self-preservation.
Also it almost looks like he's withdrawing from opiates.
@Willem Gijs I disagree, but that has been debated to death at this point. Why 'public' execution; what does that solve outside of fetishising killing someone?
@Hayley - Life in prison is an acceptable punishment for a lot of crimes, but there are some that are so heinous in my opinion that a brutal execution is justified. I don't see it as something we're 'better than'. I think it's perfectly reasonable and not shameful in the slightest. Of course that's my opinion.
@Hayley hardly. science says if youāve done something once, youāre automatically inclined to do it again. murder, rape, and child crimes should almost ALWAYS result in executions. prisons be mad overcrowded worldwide and locking people up for life literally is the WORST thing you could do. public executions are known to cause a sense of unity within the people as well as giving them the ability to resonate with those who enforce the laws. and if you have the chance to enforce laws, youāre much more likely to respect them.
@FallenSully depends on the country maybe. I thought here. In the Netherlands it was cheaper. But of course you're right. Can't compare 2 different countries. We are to nice for prisoners. It's like a hotel.
@FallenSully - We're speaking of 'what should happen' and not the real logistics of execution in this case. Arguing how long it takes to give an inmate an execution with their unlimited appeals, the cost of drugs, and special housing is something that could be reasonably argued though. It shouldn't cost that much to take out the trash. I imagine it only costs governments of our fore-fathers the price of rope, wood scaffolding, and and executioner to get the job done. Bare in mind, my feelings are for this case alone.
@Hayley - I don't know if any studies exist for how hangings increase community cohesion; doubt there are any. But I think it's unfair to assume we're just getting a euphoric rush from watching an execution rather than a fulfillment of justice being carried out; an ending.
@Stephen Turner I see no difference between the two. I get a finallity from a criminal getting conviced and sentenced. I would have no desire to watch someone get killed; in fact I would actually hate it. I just don't want to endorse the state killing people.
@Hayley but it does because you think it's going to be all fixed just throwing him in a cell for life. It's not. Because of this terrible crime he should be given the eye or an eye treatment. I understand not wanting public murder and all that, that's fine. He does not deserve my tax payers money at all.
@Bluebonez is never said it's going to be fixed. People like this cannot be rehabilitated and returned to society; you're putting words in my mouth.
As said before, the expense of endless legal appeals and carrying out the execution is in most cases more expensive than just imprisoning them for life.
Your economic argument is a distraction, just admit retributive justice makes you feel better inside and we can argue from there. Why the red herring?
@Hayley I never made a economic statement so "stop putting words into my mouth" I so never said it would fix everything I just said it's not the proper punishment for someone so sick :/
@Hayley I never meant it in the literal sense and I'm sorry you took it that way but you did put it in my mouth about economics I was just saying I personally would rather not waste my tax payers money on a terrible cruel person.
@Hayley I have to say I agreed with you in the beginning but your condescending behavior isn't doing you any favors.
No body is implying that people should be executed based on emotion or without evidence. People who advocate for the death penalty don't automatically "fetishize" death.
@Austin Jennsen Yes of course people don't say that. I cannot see any other reason why people would want public executions.
If people either don't advocate for that or don't provide some other valid reason then I'm going to make assumptions. I find it barbaric and disgusting so excuse me if I come off as "condescending".
@Hayley If you want to straw man the opposing argument I won't stop you. I actually agree that the death penalty should be illegal.
But if someone supports a public death penalty and you have to "assume" that they must derive some sick pleasure from it than you are unfairly inserting your own assumptions on someone else. If you are truly confident in your opinion than you shouldn't have to resort to such a tactic.
@Austin Jennsen Yes I will assume that as out of all these responses, nobody has given me a reason not to assume that. Attacking a strawman would imply that the people I'm arguing against haven't been given a chance to respond. They have.
@Lloyde Ruff Iām not sure if it directly correlates with everywhere else, but in California since Newsome has chosen to not carry out executions, the murder and violent crime rate has grown a portion.
@Badly Rosenthal think about people who get sentenced and after years new evidence is found and it turns out they werent guilty but well... They ve been executed so that's a shame, but shit happens right?
Good work not only for the jurors or lawyers but the detectives who questioned him. I can only imagine their state of mind, self control and persevearenceā¦ shout out to all who got this monster behind bars. š
I still remember what I was doing that day, and I was also 8. I was so excited that I got to wear a pink dress, some wedge shoes, leggings and a headband, something I wouldnāt usually pick out, but was happy to wear. I can also relate going back for some earrings, I lost one, coincidentally also butterfly, from a pair once and went on a whole mission to look for it during recess. My point is, children are so innocent, how can anyone look at them and think such horrific acts. People like that canāt be fixed and need to be the ones who go for the greater good of humanity.
As the father of a just-turned three year old girl I am in tears watching this; what an evil evil evil bastard! There can be no punishment we can inflict on him that is horrific enough to punish him, but by god I wish the Canadian state would try a bit harder.
I love this interrogator. He's cool as a cucumber. Nothing throws him! Gonna get sick? No problem, I've seen it before. "I'm just trying to find out why you did it"...not even "did you do it". Love it.
If losing his life was his biggest fear, maybe he should've, oh, I dunno, NOT committed heinous crimes against a poor innocent child! Guess it never crossed his mind that he'd be perfectly fine if he just left her alone...
@Visassess it's a saying but honestly this is so disgusting I wouldn't put it past anyone to throw up in their mouths a little bit watching shit like this
@Maurice Faurron 25 years without Parole is still a long time, and because, the felony stacks, the Judge may extend his Parole ineligibility. He committed not only to being an Accessory to a Murder, but also Sexual Assault to a Minor, both are punished by the same For Life Sentence. 2 felonies, both 25 years without parole. He may get 50 years without Parole, if he's at least 30 years old... That means he would be at least above 80 years old by the time he is allowed parole. He is good as dead by then
This interrogator is amazing. How does he manage to sit talking to this POS, and act as if the crime isn't that bad. His instinct must be to beat the shit out of the guy, but he controls himself to get a confession. It takes a very special person to do this job without going insane.
The BSU is my most favourite department of all. John Douglas, Robert Ressler, Roy Hazelwood and Mary Ellen O'Toole, they're my heroes! Kudos to their dedication and hard work in creating and working in the Behavioural Sciences Unit. Many police interrogations are based on their system. Edit: Also, RIP Robert Ressler who is no longer with us š He passed away in 2013 from Parkinsons Disease.
Excellent police work! I'm not a psychiatrist but I don't think you have to be to see that something is very wrong with Michael Rafferty. Terri McClintock is no better. These detectives are better than me, I don't think I'd be able to refrain from beating people like this to death.
Thank you for uploading this. I'm not from Woodstock but from a town very close to it and it was an awful, awful time. Rest in peace little Tori.
Let it be remembered the girl begged and pleaded for Terry Lynns help too, only to have her turn her back when michael decided to kill her with FOUR hits to the skull with a claw hammer
I do enjoy watching most your videos but this one, this one makes me sick ! I am saddened that our country canāt get this shit under control . To solve this we need swiftly punish these broken humans immediately and pupblicly and I assure you all we will stop it, period! I couldnāt interrogate animals like this .
I love how the detective doesnāt skip a beat and says āThatās true. Sometimes people are arrested and thereās not much evidence but the good thing about this case is that thereās tons of evidence.ā Such an upbeat tone. I hope he smiled when he said that.
That reminds me of the polygraph detective giving Chris Watts a lie detector test. "Right now, only one of us knows the truth. In a few minutes, there are going to be two people who know the truth! š"
Out of all the videos JCS has uploaded this one really got the best interrogator. He doesn't give the suspect a chance to even gain some breather he's empathetic but cuts the suspect when he tries to say he's innocent. Cold and efficient damn that's a combo the piece of sht never had a chance.
I've seen lots of comments on other videos from this channel, like the one about the punk who shot up Stoneman Douglas High School, where people are saying things like "how does the investigator act so calm and professional in the same room with the murderer who killed all those students and teachers and not just beat the guy" and I've always thought that well, the cops got a job to do and it would be unprofessional and it could hurt the case, etc etc etc.
Well, I think I'm about to be a hypocrite here because if I was in a locked room with a disgusting animal like this excuse for a man who had done what he did to a sweet little eight-year-old girl I wouldn't be able to control myself. I'm shaking now just typing this. I would put that animal down...period. I don't think I can actually type in public the horrifically graphic things I would do to him.
Omg, your comment made me laugh out loud even with the most horrific subject matter! Well done. Yours along with, "This guy could talk the hinges off of a gate"
That does make sense. To understand people you need to understand yourself, since you are the person you have most info on. I do it from time to time and I'm not a forensic psychologist.
@Dewey McQueen Wait so this is the same detective as the one that interviewed Jen in āJenniferās solutionā??? Cause when I looked it up after her video it said he interrogated Russell and some other famous person or something. Also, sorry for the essay but do you know what Russell Williams was interrogated about? What did he do?
@Naomi Rose In late January 2010, theĀ Ontario Provincial PoliceĀ discovered evidence that led them to suspect Williams' involvement in Jessica Lloyd's disappearance and death, and suspected links to two other crimes that had been committed in close proximity to other locations near Williamsā previous home. On February 7, Williams was interrogated by OPP investigator Jim Smyth and confronted with the evidence of tire tracks and boot prints at Lloyd's home. Over the next 10 hours, Williams gave a detailed confession of not only the sexual assault and murder of Lloyd, but also the sexual assault and murder of Corporal Marie-Frances Comeau and at least two other cases initially.
The subsequent investigation into Williams brought further confessions and revealed evidence of detailed notes and photographs stored at his home. The evidence showed he had broken into at least 82 houses to steal underwear of females, including children. This behaviour later escalated to sexual assaults and later still to the rapes and murders. He was formally charged with two counts ofĀ first-degree murder, two counts ofĀ forcible confinement, two counts ofĀ breaking and entering, andĀ sexual assault.[2]Ā Another 82 charges relating to breaking and entering were later added.
āNow I had a good day, right? Why is that? Cause Iām helping the government. And Iāve seen some bad stuff out there, Iāve seen the worst of the worst but today didnāt offend or upset me. Now when it comes to downtime, Iām not a monster, I made a mistake, I forgot to put enough sugar in my wifeās tea tonight. I have to live with that, I wish I could turn back the hands of time for her but I canāt. So what I have to do here is go watch the game anyway and be with my family.ā
@Dewey McQueen disappointed Jim took that vid off his channel(for whatever reason(he appeared to commence a "spring-cleaning" of his channel as there were others taken down too))
He's a professional. His talking is pivotal to closure for parents who will suffer for the rest of their lives. Comedy is about timing & I bet you weren't telling jokes about 9/11 on 9/12
Only in the USA would someone think its appropriate to make a comment in a vain hope to make someone laugh. Would you make that comment to Tory's parents sitting in the room. The land in decadence
I canāt watch media about children being abused and raped because it is very triggering and upsetting to think about the terror and absolute pain that these young innocent souls have to endure. Iām glad he got caught and didnāt get away with it. RIP young girl. Please rest. š
Hearing the mother bad just finished decorating her room, so she was going to have a party, damn that tore my heart. Good for Terri for testifying against him. She was called so many things in prison and has to live with the part she played, but she made sure Rafferty didn't get off on anything.
she was a part of it, but I was so happy that she said everything. I don't want to call her a hero, because she's not one, but she showed that she had remorse and understood that what she played a part in was horrific.
The bucket was such a good addition; the only 'relief' he thinks he get can get, comes from the agent. He shuts down any implications that he could be offended at every corner of any sentence, any potential interpretation, only to slap a dose of reality right after his comforting statements.
"Well the plan is not going to work, you're not built for this shit." That agent is cold as ice. What an absolute unit, he is like good cop/bad cop that got symbiosed together and work in perfect harmony.
Makes me proud of being Canadian, this is an art that ought to be respected.
It enrages me so badly when they start crying when they get caught like you didn't just torture an innocent child and listened to her cries and screams
Also when the investigator asks what he's scared of and he says he's scared that his life is over. Fucking sickening considering he ended a little girls life.
Uh, if he showed no emotion you'd say you were enraged about that instead. Let's just get to the point and say you're just an uncontrollably angry person?
absolutely incredible If you blame Biscuit Gidoni for being āuncontrollably angryā over a senseless brutal crime against a innocent child.... then what does that make you? Are you then the tolerant, understanding advocate of this criminal??
@M D Not according to @absolutelyIncredible over here saying I'm just an angry person and should have sympathy for him.. Like seriously @absolutely what the fuck?!
These humans do not feel anything for other humans. That little girl could of been just a cow or sheep he cut up to eat. Happens everyday. We are just predator animals..and to think otherwise is foolish.
@J L Yup.. Totally fine though listening to.an innocent child scream in pain and terror.. God i absolutely hate humanity. Children and animals are so innocent and you truly have to be a soulless husk of a human to bring harm to any like that.. Like even hunters make sure the animals die quickly and with the least amount of pain as possible while people like this torture the innocent like it's nothing. God my heart hurts for that little girl and what she must of went through. Now my mind is in a dark place and my heart is sinking to my chest.. I hate it here! I absolutely do..
I was raped by the Pope .,dude.. toriās DNA was all over michaels car.. and his dna was found on her body. He definitely wasnāt set up.. Iāll bet you think Paul Bernardo is a nice guy who is just as innocent and wasting away in prison.
but it makes sense, doesn't it? if you're selfish enough to kill a little girl to satisfy your sick needs, you're probably also selfish enough to feel bad for yourself for getting caught
He's crying because he got caught. If he had a conscience the crime would'nt have happened. Sociopaths are the worst. These kind of crimes are simply satanic. Pure and simple.
Yeah those tears only come when they know they are done.. If he hadn't been arrested, he probably wouldn't have shed a single tear and be proud of his actions.
@some obscure music channel I was about to say before I read the edit.. This guy had to sympathy when that little girl screamed in pain and terror while he did those things he did to that little innocent child and she had no idea why or what he was doing, all she knew was that he was hurting her and she couldn't do anything but scream and beg him to stop and the other woman to help her.. Did he cry then? I don't understand these comments replying to this that I'm so cold hearted towards this man.. As someone who's been kidnapped, impregnanted from it, and by the grace of some higher power was able to escape survive, I've seen the evil in these men. They didn't care I was tied to a bed post.. They didn't care I cried, they just paid to use me and I seen them straight in the eyes and saw nothing but evil staring back.. Men who have families and you walk by in the street and think they are just normal..
@absolutely incredible Lol what??? Why did you immediately jump to that and react? It's the audacity of him to try to elicit empathy when he showed a complete lack of it for his victim. It's sick because it's psychopathic sense of entitlement. These are very dangerous individuals and are everywhere.
@Alexandria Omfg....you and your little naive bubble. No, they aren't human in any sense of the word. Research psychopathy and spend an evening watching and observing all the worst sadistic murderer interviews. You will "wake up" and learn what walks among us in disguise. Believing that a psychopath is even capable of empathy or remorse is like believing dinosaurs will make a come back. SMHš
Their emotional range is only Narcissistic in nature. They have tears and emotions for themselves only. It's a terrifying reality.
@Nadia Iwanek if it is, it's selfish bad tears for himself that is not caring proper type of tears I or most I know wud have, it's the tears some wrong person like him wud have.
FR!! he acts as if he had seen something traumatizing, if I the investigator didn't say anything, I would think he was a witness to such a horrible crime
@Biscuit Gidoni This guy is a monster, but his cries are not fake. Imagine you did something you don't feel guilty for, spend weeks just living your life and then got caught and faced possible death penalty for it. I believe his mental breakdown was genuine. It doesn't mean I any sympathy for him, he's still a monster who scared, hurt and murdered a defenceless child and expected to get away with it.
The guy who sexually assaulted me when i was 12, broke down into tears when he saw the cops standing outside his door. Of course he denied in court, but about 2 minutes later he admitted it again, then denied it. He only did 6 yrs, but it was originally suppose to be 4, but two more years got added on because of the comment he made at the end.
He's not done crying...in prison there's a code. And just before that code get's enforced he will be crying. The code is timeless...it's about access to him. The code is those who hurt or kill children will not and can not live with us.
@Jazza BigHits Turns out she later confessed to being the one who actually murdered Torri with the hammer. So yeah she's a terrible human being who only feigned remorse to seem like the less evil one.
@HunterG_YT Even if she didn't do the act of murder, she lured the child which is worth life without parole anyway. But that's fucked up. Also right at the end it says they both got life without parole, so that's good
Yeah it's crazy how, if you didn't know what he did from the start of the video...he would seem like a normal guy just sitting there being cold and hungry. And you would have sympathy for him. But the fact that we know what he just did makes us look at him in a completely different way.
@Biscuit Gidoni It's actually shocking how you were able to put words in my mouth, through a yt comment. I didn't say "be on his side", or to sympathize in any way. This is somewhat of a rare case when you can insta-convict someone for a crime. It usually does not go like this, and THAT is why you can't prosecute with prejudice. Go to see thr case of Casey on this same channel. You'll be like: "Of course she did it, that bitch!" .. Then see the verdict, it will rock you from your chair
@Silvio TF does that have to do with this video and case in particular.. That man took a little child full of wonder and innocence who never had experience the evil of mankind and took that from her.. She didnt understand what he was doing to her or why.. She knew it hurt and was crying for someone to make it stop and hold her.. Instead he took her innocent outlook of the world and made her experience one of the most evil things man can do.. Gave her no comfort before he took her life.. Did he cry then? This isn't a case of they got the wrong person.. I'm going to tell you something personal. I have a 5 year old daughter.. She's beautiful.. Anytime we go anywhere people stop us saying how cute she is.. 6 years ago I was setup by a girl I thought was my friend and was taken by 5 men. I was constantly told I was going to end up in a ditch headless if I didn't do exactly what they said... and was told when they're done with me they may just dispose of me anyways. I was brought to a shady motel room outside of Baltimore where they paid off the people. I was put in a motel room & sold over & over again to nasty drug infected men. I was there for 4 weeks where they had me do hero....In so I was dependent on them to not be sick from withdrawals. Only one of the !enjoy was nice to me and I went into survival mode and put on an act like I liked him. When it was just me and him he took me out of the motel and took me to one of their gang's safe house.. I was there for another week but he was mad at me that I didn't want to have you know what so he "kicked me out" but really let me go & I had no shoes and I ran to a gas station & begged to use this guys phone & called my friend & he arranged another friend of mine who lived in Baltimore to come pick me up and I spent the night telling him everything that happened & cried all night holding him. The next took me to the hospital & they set me up in a rehab to kick the withdrawals. About a month later I decided to go yo the health department to make sure none of those men gave me a s....t....d . That's when I found out I was pregnant.. I was suicidal at the time and suffering from ptsd and hearing that I fell to the floor & screamed.. But she saved my life.. She gave me a reason to live & is my whole world.. You don't understand the evil in the eyes of a man doing that to you. You either fight or lay & accept it because no matter what they're going to do it.. I have extreme ptsd even 6 years later., I'm an adult & can't process what & why this happened. My biggest fear is my child experiencing that.. Any child.. So no.. I don't have ANY sympathy for a pos that can do that to a child. And none for you Em-Fers who can have any sympathy for him. He's not crying because he's sorry for what he did to her.. He's crying because he got caught & he knows what they do to men like him in prison.
@Milky Way Yeah.. Thats the thing.. Most ppl who do this kind of stuff seem normal, and nice... Just your neighbor, or coworker, or cousin.. But in a lot of ppls minds they think the people who do it look on the outside like the monsters they are.. But 99% of the time, they don't,
Well, I'm sure he is having a prometheus punishment of his own.
I can't imagine that situation and I don't want to. What I can imagine, is the torment he brought upon that little girl is happening to him as we speak and he has the rest of his life to endure it.
Prisoners don't play that shit, and his sweet ass showing up probably made a few people excited. That or they could have stomped his head in by now.
@Alef0 Yeah.. As someone who's 6 years clean I can see that.. But I think his crying is genuine.. As in it's genuine with his feeling sorry for himself not remorse for the girl.. I believe he would still cry if not dope sick.
I know this sounds strange, but I still hope he doesn't receive harm in prison...
...instead, have him constantly look over his shoulder, constantly paranoid that he could be beaten at any moment. Nobody will actually attack him though, but that fight-or-flight instinct running through his veins will never leave his body and that'll bring more pain and misery than anything physical inflicted upon him
āAll she wanted to do was go home and have a little party for her friends because her mom just redecorated her room for herā fucking broke my heart. What an evil pathetic man.
The final onslaught from that lead investigator was so brutal and brilliant to watch. Such a fantastic way to let this guy squirm while not crossing any kind of line that would have gotten the case thrown out.
@Ding Chook The Cop ask those question for Psychological Evalution. So that the couple doesnt just claim to be cookoo in court and gets of with a light sentence. Psychos get locked away in mental institutions. A smooth ride compared to prison.
@HEATHER RAINWATER The mother's don't always determine if the child is going to be a rapist/murderer. They always blame the mothers of serial killers but what about the father? The child can have a great life and still grow up to go down a fucked up path on their own.
@Luter Leko maybe temporarily. I'm sure that would give him some immediate satisfaction. Afterwards though? He would fall to his knees and realize that nothing he ever does will ever bring her back. Nothing. And realize he is a broken man. So no, it ultimately wouldn't make him feel better.
Jimmy M2020-09-09 20:31:05 (edited 2020-09-09 20:33:12 )
This was indeed pathetic, but not all murderers are alike. This guy crying was rage inducing, I wanted to smash his skull against the concrete. But then I would be the monster then, wouldn't I? I admit I felt a little bit of empathy for the video about Lee and him crying at the end. Yeah he's a murderer too, but that may actually be 2nd degree murder (don't think he's been convicted yet), and I actually believe he deserves a 2nd chance once he's done his time. This guy however, you Canadians better not let him out. Your possibility of parole after 25 years is absolute bullshit. Same thing with Bernardo (which I admit I was unfamiliar with until I looked him up after he was referenced in this video). You give a guy like Bernardo a possibility of parole after 25 years? WTF Canada. I know he'll never be released, but just the simple fact he even has the possibility is astounding.
No espically this man wait I can't even call him a man this thing is literally only like this cuz lawyer said don't talk and now he j feels bad for himself cuz he got caught.
@Mick They do it to exhaust the suspect, and if they're telling the truth, their story will remain consistent. If they're lying on the other hand, they can't keep their story straight.
More pathetic than that? A child murderer/rapist. Itās one level of fucked up to harm someone who has a bit of a chance at defending themselves, but itās a whole new thing to harm an innocent and defenceless child.
Yeah, I was watching this Asian guy who kill people cus they didn't give him his money back(same YT channel). Interrogator ask him he can let it out, say he's sorry. He answered "for what?"
to be fair, most people can't handle the moral guilt of crimes they may impulsively commit. I can't handle the guilt of social interactions I'm probably the only person on earth that remembers happened. If I ever rationalize killing someone, it's going to take some rather extreme circumstances. I have already rationalized that my life is worth more to me than anyone else's, especially those that would put their life in the way of mine. I would mentally collapse if I killed someone by accident, or impulsively out of some kind of rage.
EDIT: shit take, nothing here was impulsive, it was premeditated, don't listen to me I'm a cock. EDIT2: Oh shit I think I'm going to hurl. That was far more graphic of a description than I ever want to hear about a child ever again.
Yes I remember hearing about this not far from me when I was a young teen and it takes a special piece of shit to murder a child and seeing him cry is exactly something I'd expect from a weak piece of shit who defiles and murders someone who can't defend themself
Murderer? We need a new Term for this shit.., I have much more respect for murderer, He is a monster..,killing 8 years old girl in that way makes u ..I dont know.
Okay nevermind. Just got to the part where he started crying, and it's more pathetic than anything I have ever seen or heard. Even a, "*tips fedora* M'lady" isn't this pathetic.
@PotatoPrime there was a similar case of a child being abducted and molested except it was from a family friend, the father was alerted to the culprit being transferred and waited along the route then gunned him down. Years later he gets out of prison and says heād do it again without thinking and had no regrets.
I don't find it "pathetic" that he's crying. Fake or real, it makes me feel good that he is being tormented during this interrogation. I hope he is tormented and in the fetal position for the rest of his life!
They 'fooled' around with the guy for an hour and a half. Then, about 33:15 into the video, the 'bad cop' comes in and gets down to business. This is the part I like to see. And then the guy going to jail and making some new "Friends" for the rest of his life. Nothing pathetic about it. Almost heart-warming to see this considering what terrible and vile things he did to that little girl. Almost makes me feel good. Almost.
My niece's mother (my brother's ex) bawled after suffocating my niece and leaving her body for nine hours while she thought of what to say to everyone. She wanted everyone to feel sorry for her after killing her five year old child. Unfortunately she was released from prison a few years ago on fucking good behavior and attends community college in my old home town.
Something more pathetic would be him begging the boys in the big house not to kill him or beat him to a pulp. The one thing he deserves is the same done to him, it's a fucking disgrace that this still happens, even worse they feel like they can portray to be victims and seek pity, something else they don't deserve.
I think watching the POS woman that actually lured her to his car would be even WORSE> HOW THE HELL DOES she do that then say all the BS she does to detectives?
And this is exactly why my parents tell me to wait inside till they come to get me or take the bus. Heās a sick horrible man and sheās no better even if she didnāt ever want that to happen to the girl she still committed to it as he harmed that girl without her consent then took her life as she screams in pain and agony begging for the women to help her but in the end she was killed
This is absolutely horrible, I can't imagine what the parents feel. Imagine having a sweet daughter and raising her.. She's a child, she's so small. She fully depends on you. You send her to school so she will get education. She doesn't return, and you find out she's been raped and killed by a grown ass man, who hides under a blanket and cries while being investigated. That's so horrible. It would fully break me.
@Matt Watson Knowing what we know now yes it sucks that they focused on her but at the same time when a child goes missing they always look at the immediate family first. And a lot of the time it is a family member that committed the crime. Itās understandable that they would focus on the mother especially if she was a drug addict because drug addiction can make you do things you would never even think about doing when youāre sober. Just remember the police are just doing their jobs and have to go at the family first when a child disappears. Itās the same whenever a spouse is murdered, they always look at the other spouse first. They start with the family and inner circle and then work their way out from there. Itās tough but itās necessary
That is horrible, but at the same time, where were the parents? It is fully the fault of the murderer that she died but it is the fault of the adults responsible of the kid to have not been there to pick up the kid. I don't think a kid this young should be left alone in the street
@Nutella Flavor she's really young so yea, the parents probably shouldn't have let her go alone. They also should've taught her not to talk to strangers.
@Matt Watson yeah, when I was young I walked home like 8 blocks every day when I was in grade school. A lot of kids do, this poor little girl just happened to be the one, which is horrible. I'm glad they upped the sentence for the woman as well, regardless of her emotional "not wanting to see it" story. If she hadn't wanted to see it, then she shouldn't have lured the girl away, what the fuck did she think was going to happen?
At least these two will stare at the walls of a cell for the rest of their lives.
@Dawson Woolford honest to god trust me Iāve been to Canadian JAILS because of fines. trust me even those were corrupt as hell they rlly donāt give a fuck when it comes to dealing with criminals especially the most fucked up of the most fucked up
@Boofpack sounds like you've seen some movies. You think they have a chance or logistics to shit in individual prisoner's food in a busy prison?? Guards don't even have time to care about individual prisoners; good or bad.
You can see his guilt surfacing throughout the entire interview, causing him to go into shock. This is essentially the realization that he is going to die in jail, and not due to old age lets be clear.
A perfect example of how just about anyone, given an extreme enough situation has within them the capacity to commit murder. I'm sure her parents were/are ravenous with desire to end that man's life personally.
Shit like this is exactly why I don't understand why it's normalized to leave our kids with strangers every day. And partly why I don't want to bring kids into this shitty world.
@Frank Debellis same! I donāt trust the school bus either. If Iām late itās only by 5 minutes and I call the office to have them brought to the office when the bell rings. They donāt see outside until me or my husband makes it there.
@Morpheus Grace you literally answered your own question. Itās an interrogation method. Itās not real feelings. Interrogators have to be great actors. Iām currently in school for forensic psychology and profiling myself. Idk how you could possibly have any anger towards an investigator trying to get answers out of this guy. If you even watched the full video, you know he pretended to go get him food and didnāt. And they mentioned the interrogators distaste for the guy. Bc it was all an act. šduh
@tibo No it's not concerning. The only reason people are concerned about that is because of what we now know happened to her. Obviously it shouldn't have happened but to insinuate that the parents were somehow at fault at all for not accompanying their daughter on her daily walks to and from school from one block away is frankly ridiculous.
@saguirre760 What sort of question is that? Contrary to popular belief, Canada is really not drastically different from the US.
What is different is that crimes are punished less severely in Canada meaning people like this are going to be on the streets sooner on average than if the crime happened in America.
@Shivur Did you miss the part where he explicitly said those were his experiences in Canadian jails? You obviously and deliberately ignored that part because anyone capable of reading and comprehending English sentences would not misunderstand their comment.
@tibo Different neighborhoods and areas have different levels of security. Yes, it would have been better if she always had an adult accompanying here, but that's not always possible (especially when both parents work/don't have extra money for a babysitter), and sometimes it can seem unnecessary when growing up in a relatively safe neighborhood.
Tibo; as a father I donāt think I could go on they would have to put me on heavy drugs to make me stupid it would break me too and I have twin girls who I adore like any normal parent.
They fed him and kept him warm wtf I just started watching Iām livid that baby died such a horrific death alive for the whole thing idk how they can keep a straight face to investigate
@The Real Karen they fed him and gave him a blanket to try to get a confession out of him. unfortunately you need to give some psychopaths a sense of security and understanding in order for them to open up. otherwise sometimes it's not enough evidence to keep them in jail or to give them a much harsher sentence. As for law enforcement it's same thing different day but it doesn't make the job any less important or cruel to their own psyche.
@AltaMirage What? 25 years is the max? I didn't know that, I thought the justice system was basically the same but the government usually handed out lighter sentences for the same types of crimes.
It's interesting that even though the Investigator says over and over that they know it leads to him and have proof and Michael continues to say he didn't do it over and over. Do you think he is in denial that he did it or does he think if he says he's innocent enough that they'll be like aight cool he's good. I'd he really interested to know whats going on in his head.
Feeling sorry for himself in his little blanket, crying and sobbing , people who commit violent crimes on children are the lowest cowards in society So pathetic the interogator does so without cuffs on , he knows he is too much of a coward to lash out at him
I hate that Michael, it blows me away how he can act so cowardly and act like a victim when he just sexually assaulted and killed a little girl. Absolutely revolting.
@Chase Jones wrong, Terri Lynn was the one that killed Tori with the claw hammer. It's quite possible that she is more guilty than scumbag here and as far as I know, she's living it up in a minimum security facility with the possibility of release within the next 10 years ...
Iām absolutely blown away by the poise and understanding demeanour displayed by the profiler, what a professional, Iād have been absolutely verbally abusing that man, maybe worse
If I was doing his job I would paint a ālight at the end of the tunnelā scenario. Give him something to run towards. Sympathy and these things happen because of earlier influences...blah, blah, blah, and once truth comes out and you admit to what happened then we have a starting point to healing. We can work on understanding and fixing you so we can get you well and out of the system...if they donāt understand theyāll go harder on you and you may never get out, but I know if we get the facts then we know how to proceed and get you well and out of here. Give him something to run towards, downplay the hardship of lengthy time in jail and that he can have hope for his future.
@FreeOpenTruth I've seen another interview where the cops thought the guy committed an armed robbery. He kept saying "I'll talk if I get a coke and a butterfinger" they gave him two cokes but eventually realized he wasnt going to talkšš
Worth noting that none of these techniques worked. It ended up being terrible policing and they were lucky they didn't need the interview evidence. The end of the interview was basically bullying - it's the police's job to establish the facts not to assume guilt and verbally abuse people who haven't been convicted yet. Even prison guards aren't allowed to speak to people like that when they HAVE been convicted!
Myself andI ok, we get one anotherās point. Iāve watched numerous JCS documentaries. He said in Canada, where this particular case occurred, the police can still talk to them, while waiting for their counsel to arrive. They do not have to answer, but they can speak to them, under the guise that the suspect requested an attorney. That is not the case here in the US. Apparently, Canada does it a bit different. If Iām incorrect, itās because thatās what JCS said on one of his videos.
FreeOpenTruth He didnt have power if he didnt take it lmao. If you walk into an interrogation crying and wearing a trash bag as a blanket the police know you're weak
@Myself andIPersonally I think the first officer did a great job, it just didn't work in this situation. Second guy was finding his roll too cathartic for my liking but it did also serve a purpose contrey to Jim's take. The psychologic battery is intended to throw the suspect off kilter, to worsen the feeling of dispondancy increasing the likelyhood of a confession down the line. They did not do anything illegal, given his age. They had given him food. 3.5 hours is relatively short for an interrogation. He had already spoken to a lawyer, a lawyer does not need to be in the interrogation room in Canada they just need to be given the opportunity to speak to one and did so. Finally the psychologist lied to the suspect when he told him could leave at anytime - so weren't breaking any rules when making him stay. Ultimately I think, if they wanted a confession they could of eventually got one. However I believe they gave up as the case was pretty much wrapped up and it wasn't worth and more time and effort extracting one.
@Myself andI Ā @Myself andIĀ I didn't realise you could demand a lawyer be present, I just knew you had the right to council, thanks for informing me. Whist I appreciate your compassion, I'm from the UK where our criminal justice system is far more compassionate towards the suspects. To be 100% honest doesn't really work to the benifit of society particularly in the case of violent offenders. Here the Reid method is not permitted, we have far less admitions of guilt for that reason. Whilst I appreciate your empathy, I think the things to remember are that the Reid method is only used after the investigatiors have significant evidence to paint someone as guilty therefore it is designed to increase psychological pressure and then offer a release value by way of an admitions of guilt. It's also effective at assessing guilt/innocence via pushing people make rash emotional responses, which can be more easily assessed. Lastly when the Reid method is done properly, particularly with no offers of judicial leniency, giving toilet breaks and most importantly only using it on mature mentally stable adults the likely hood of false confessions are incredibly low.
@Myself andIty for the reply. I'm a little busy to reply to all of your points, but I'll try the best I can to answer as many of them as possible. First I find it strange that you find enhanced interigation, morally reprehensible as it is essentially cohesion whilst ignoring the fact that detainment is essentially kidnapping - by the same logic should we not detain people because kidnapping is illegal.
The notion that the interigation will give suspect ptsd is pretty strange, and seems like your blamimg the stress of the situation onto a single stage in the process whilst from my perspective if I were to be accused of a crime, detained and trialed, I'm pretty that alone would give me ptsd. Is an enhanced really that much more stress.
Last point I have time to make is whilst, the detectives may be certain that does not necessarily prove to a jury the suspect is guilty. An admition of guilt, or the suspect giving inconsistent information maybe enough to get a guilty verdict. Further certain things the suspect says may deprive the defence form myself making arguments to obfuscate the truth. If the suspect were to be deemed guilty in a court of law, and they were mitigating circumstances to the crime, the suspect coming clean during interigation can lead to a smoother trail where the mitegating circumstances and suspects co-operation can be used to get a fair outcome given the circumstances.
IMHO the judicial system in Canada is superior to that of the UK, your system keeps people who have committed violent crimes in prison much more effectively than our system and that in turn protects society. Anecdotally, my father was assaulted with a steel rod five years ago - they had caught the suspects and had 3 witnesses identify them excluding my father, however they were unable to take them to court as there was deemed to be insufficient evidence, e.g. CCTV footage or a confession... More effective integration could have got that extra information to get those men arrested, instead tax payers payed money so they could have a lawer sit beside them whilst they repeated 'no comment' to protect there own skin - those to Men, with pretty damming evidence against them, got to walk free and subsequently commited more violent crimes...before they were convicted. I understand that protecting suspects wellbeing to a reasonable extent is important but surely you must agree that it's not nearly as important as protecting the health an wellbeing of the general public?
@Myself andI In Canada you don't have the right to have a lawyer present during a police interview. You must be provided with a lawyer and they can tell you what to do, but they can't go into the room with you.
@Myself andI I agree...it is fishy. They must allow you to speak to a lawyer whenever you ask for one, so if you want to check with your lawyer before answering a question, they must allow you to do so.
@Benjamin Sumner Um, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but prison guards sure as hell ARE allowed to talk to the inmates, however the fuck they want. Source: 3 years in prison
spongemonkeysooz I have no idea where they cost 3 bucks.. I paid 89 cents USD for one day before yesterday. The vending machine at at my work sells them for a dollar.
Myself andI my only problem with your reasoning, and in most cases you are absolutely correct. A police officer is not a judge, their job is to get facts. If they have you dead to rights and have seen the evidence to lead to their conclusion, the Jury does not matter yet. Not in their duty. Their job is the burden of proof. What is better proof than a confession? You can have mountains of physical evidence and the only thing that makes it open and shut, is a confession.
If a suspect is read their rights and agrees they understand them who cares if they get badgered afterward. They know itās their right to shut the fuck up. That doesnāt make every investigatorās approach intelligent, or the correct way.
@Benjamin Sumner just because something doesnt work doesnt mean its terrible
Also they had DNA evidence and video evidence of him and Teri with Tori in the car. They weren't guessing at his guilt dude. Just guessing how much of it was him and how much her. Also that cop wasnt bullying, he was venting. And he was perfectly within his right.
I feel like they were intentionally stressing him out as much as possible. It breaks down a person's resolve and makes them desperate to end the interview asap. It's so bad you get confessions ( not a fan because it also leads to false confessions).
@Alice Ayres Yep this isn't the UK though so UK practice doesn't apply here. Our system in the UK is also weighted too far in the favour of the suspect and because of that dangerous criminals frequently walk just to re-offend time and time again.
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Alice Ayres2021-01-05 04:03:42 (edited 2021-01-05 04:11:34 )
@SpaceRanger Sorry misread that...I don't believe that the reason they reoffend is because the UK is too lenient, it's just because the current systems don't rehabilitate. Check out some countries that completely revamped their system, have far kinder sentences, yet ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH low recidivism rates. Our rates are terrible in America too š
But rather than change anything and actually prevent future crime (imagine the innocent people we could save), we fear change....
@Benjamin Sumner The didn't assume guilt, they had video evidence, eyewitness testimony, the body (located where the accomplice/eyewitness said it was), injuries on the body consistent with eyewitness testimony, DNA evidence...it was pretty clear he was guilty, and they were trying to pressure him into confessing to top it off.
Rafferty said he was cold and hungry so they got him a coffee and (what looks like) a bagel. But I didn't see Rafferty touch it or even look at it for the whole time (just stares at his knees). The coffee would have been cold and the bagel stale by the end of it. You also see the Behavioral Sciences dude happily sipping on his throughout the interview. Contrasting their states of consciousness. You can also see how relaxed the HS dude and the investigator compared to MR.
@Ash Richards I'ma have to disagree with you on that one. That's unconstitutional, imagine you were arrested for a crime you didn't do and the police attempt to beat it out of you not only are you gonna get your ass whooped but you'll probably end up admiting to a crime you never committed and go to prison for it lol.
@CandiGale73 Yes. I just watched the one mother who killed her two daughters because of her drug smiggling husband. And they were in Canada. And she would not talk. But the detective kept on. And they said it was legal in Canada for them to do that
@Teresa Lynn thank you! Every American thinks their laws are right. I speak as an American myself. People need to broaden their horizons, and stop thinking only one way.
Jeff had/has? a youtube channel (idk if its still up.. he would do weird music and talk lol) and he said he ended up doing a few years in the end because he took a deal coz of his past criminal history they were trying to put him away for longer.. His channel used to be linked in the "Jeff" video..
This is super interesting. They have everything worked out so I sure that horribly squeeky chair is pay of it! It is so annoying I would have started screeming, ALL RIGHT I DID IT!!!!! š¬
ššš this mans says ima get you food, shakes his hand and returns with his accomplice. Dude had it rightā¦it was all a psychological ploy No food for you
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@FreeOpenTruth he really has no power, they know he was the one that did it, all they really need is a motive which as the detective said, he already probably knows.
@Payton jay Yes I seen that interrogation with the alleged armed robber THEY ended up having to let him go though then He would've gotten the butter fingers
The body language in this entire interrogation is stunning. The way the detective stays so calm while the perp Continuously tries to disappear into the wall. Fetal position... Wow. I hope he feels that way, at minimum, the remainder of his pathetic existence.
No one who commits a despicable crime like this is likable. BUT this guy is just so hate-able even if I didn't know what he did, he's just so cringy, so whiny and pathetic. What a waste. šš¤¬
Rest in peace, sweet Tori, so sorry you got taken away before your time. ā„
I don't think he's acting, when you're in his line of work you really have to create a impenetrable mental wall between your personal life and work. Also, as he stated, this is something he's had a lot of experience in dealing with and while I'm not gonna say you ever stop finding disgust in morbid shit you do develop a sort of callus and become numb to it. If you've been on the internet a very long time or have looked into a lot of crime videos, you've experienced that callus first hand. There's been some pretty gruesome stuff I've seen on the net, a lot of things I see people outraged by I kinda shrug off myself. The worlds a fucked up place and probably most don't realize just how much so.
He said he dealt with far worse than this guy and I believe him. I imagine after some time you get a bit numb to this type of horror. Like a surgeon seeing the insides of someone over and over.
I'm asking myself the same thing how could he be so calm after seeing and reading what happend to that little child. I work in the medical field and sometimes inmates comes to our station with police and all but I just do my work and help the people cause who am I to judge. Dosent matter much to me what he did. Always better for me not knowing what they did
@Sin it'll mainly be focusing on the family of the kid, as if he just shouts at him he'll get nothing from him, and maybe he'll somehow walk free if they don't convince him to confess. If he does what be did though and gets that confession he knows for a fact he made sure he's going to jail, which is well worth it
@Miss Misfits I wouldn't know. Fortunately for me, I grew up in a loving and functional home. Isn't that statistic on cops? Nobody in my family was a cop, so idk...
I pray for her family, I cannot imagine sending my child to school and her never coming home. I hope they know the whole internet is ripping this pathetic monster to shreds in the comments, and heās getting a lot worse treatment in prison. People are only sorry when theyāre caught
The part that hurts me the most. Is what the kid must've been feeling in her last moments. This world is so cruel. She just wanted to see a puppy. So innocent. Only evil take advantage of Innocence.
@Peter The world is cruel too. Some kids are born with a fatal illness' and live for days or months and only know a live of pain and suffering. Some parts of the world food is scarce and people starve. The world can be cruel too. But I agree with you, that in this instance, it was the people who were cruel to this innocent child.
ā@Christian Sutton Which animals kill with premeditation/planning with personal motives apart form instinct/hunger then if not just humans? That's what I'd justify as cruel.
@nick T No they don't wtf? Definition of murder is as follows "Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse, especially the unlawful killing of another human with malice aforethought."
Which of those animals you selected plans out the "murder" weeks/months in advance?
@Gandalf The White Your original post was all about how animals only kill for instinct, but I listed examples of cruel acts that some animals commit for funsies. Cats play with their food and kill not for hunger, but for sport. Killer whales love to play with their food and torture their food for fun. Dolphins do the same. And, again, otters are the animal equivalent of Jeffery Dahmer when it comes to necrophilic rapey acts of unkindness. Animals do and will kill for the fun of it, and humans aint so different.
@missustealie Again you're mixing up base animal instinct with human concepts that link with a human sense of morality. An animal can't comprehend and fully realise the suffering it inflicts like a human can, something can't be accountable for it's actions if it doesn't have a full grasp on the ramifications and nowhere near to the level of empathy humans are capable of.
@Gandalf The White it doesn't matter, they still kill for the sport of it and you can't deny that. that statement alone disproves everything you're trying to say.
@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie Killer Whales kill sharks and toy with them without eating them. Dolphins do the same. What part of this is hunting again?
I know after being assaulted like that at 8 then brutally murdered like she was already probably hiding and scared only fir a woman who was nice to her and was probably thinking would help her only took her life .
@Yrn Quin but it does matter. Lol wat. That realization is a huge difference between humans and animals. We 100% know what we do while an animal does not. You won't see an animal commit the crimes humans are capable of, much less for the same reasons.
@aĶØnĶ§gĶeĶ¤l it still doesn't matter...like the people above said, there's multiple animals who play with their food and kill it and don't even eat it. That's not killing based on instinct or hunger, thats straight up murder. For one, if they were hungry they would eat it and not play around with it and for two, it's not regular for cats or killer whales etc. to play with their food meaning the specific cats or killer whales etc. that do these things are an outlier/threat in their society, just like guess what....murderers.
I hope you take some solace in the idea that many psychologists believe that people experiencing profound violence and pain disassociate. Itās quite likely many victims do not have to go through all that pain.
@Gandalf The White k-whales can and do m- seals for fun... Their behavior literally goes beyond 'base instinct', because it's a learned social behavior (and no, it didn't come from us). You assuming all animals just function on a basic level and have absolutely no understanding beyond just being an action-reaction being says waaay more about you and how you view animals that are not humans than anyone else in this comment section...
The irony is, you end up having a poorer view on what animals are capable of in terms of social complexity and intelligence by misguidedly trying to make them into Disney characters lmfao. Seriously... Read up on these animals you suppose to know so much about, because your ignorance of them will only harm them and yourself in the long run.
@Fire ship nope, read more about nature and the animals that inhabit it (besides humans) or stop making such false declarative statements. Highly social animals are capable of unimaginable cruelty, k-whales, lions, monkeys and dolphins are one of many examples. Humans are, of course included, because we are also socially complex but we are not unique in that regard
@SuperCyberus 2 "get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head"
@Christine Cannibal That was my first thought, tooā¦ And it just made me tear up and go hug my daughter. You have to be a sociopath to drive 100 miles while a child is crying and scared, and not once think it was a bad idea? No child should die.. thank you for your insight..
@Gandalf The White now wait just a minute. A fellow stoner. Please, forgive me if my previous comment was aggressive in anyway. I don't remember what I said.
@Gandalf The White psychopaths don't have empathy either they don't grasp the pain they caused because they don't feel the same way we do so are they innocent?
@Mahmut Sala I think he is trying to point out that other animals dont have social mores and morals, and thus legal codes against murder. - That cruelty and suffering is normal in the animal kingdom doesn't change this fact.
It's too bad no one warned this little girl not to EVER walk away with ANYbody, even if by pll she knew, with their offer of shoeu g them a puppy, a kitten, or askjng her to hrlp find a lost puppy or kitten, etc. That these are almost always very bad ppl, who want to kipnap her, & hurt her badly, and never let her go home ever again or ever back to school again!! That she will probably never ever meet such ppl but if she ever does, just remember to not ever walk off with them somewhere -- just run as fast as possible in the opposite direction & screaming to get attention!! And all little boys need to learn this too, and both as early as possible, and hopefully explained delicately, without scaring them to death in the process. But they MUST learn this.
watched this video like 3 times before and for some reason it was only this time around i caught that Tori was the same age as I was on April 8th 2009. I most certainly hope Rafferty is having the worst time of his life right now.
Imagine how a cop must feel. Having to deal with people like this, knowing that they are guilt and trying to hold yourself as hard as you can to not just grab a gun and pop the fucking garbage.
@Matheus Salabert if i was a cop i definitely wouldnt kill him, id rather make him rot in jail for eternity instead of releasing him from decades of pain
I 100% agree. This makes me want to devote the rest of my life to hunting the vermin phsychopath that could do these things to children. Id die right now to be in the place of any child at the hands of these monsters. No amount of pain and tourture would make me change my mind. I promise.
You're not the only one. I wouldn't be able to be in the same room as him. I could never have that criminal psychologist's job. It's weird how crimes against children upset me more than adults. Is not a life equal to a life? But for me a child is innocent, and should never have to experience the true evil of man like this. At this point in a child's life, they don't even know evil like this exists. Where as an adult knows evil exists in the world. Not that anyone deserves this, but a child has their whole life in front of them, and the death of a child is always worse for me.
What a disgusting piece of sh*t that poor baby!!!! My heart. If I was in that investigation room Iād be in jail before he was. One of the first times Iāve seen someone give nothing. Not even a fake attempt at remorse or excuses. Hopefully the family can find peace in some way š
I just don't understand how he could do that to someone and take their life away from them but then tell the officer his biggest fear was "losing HIS life". How can people lack that much empathy.
@Mateo Hodge okay. Let's say he wasn't scared at what he had done, but about the fact that he got caught. Point still stands, it wasn't an act, he was a nervous wreck.
Naw, whats worse is going full Snitch and STILL getting the exact same sentence as the other guy who did the dirty work. LMAO I'm not saying she shoulda got off scott-free but shiiiit, shave 5 years off that shit for being so THOROUGH, you know what im sayin?
@Maxie Primo I understand that, it just doesn't seem to "balance" well for me that they got the exact same punishment when they don't seem to be the same level of evil. I think it would make me feel better if he got 30+ years and she got the 25 she has now. It's not about the sentence being too harsh, to me its about each person/case being treated individually whereas I don't believe this verdict was. Not to say the jury or judge was wrong in any way, I just think it would have shown more thought to have different sentences.
@NagsterTheGangster She is just as guilty and sick for letting it happen when she is the one that could have done something to prevent some or all of it. What is your problem? So because she confessed and feels bad about it she is in any capacity less guilty? No she isn't. She did the right thing by coming forward and confessing, but that doesn't make her any less responsible for her actions. I hope you can understand that she is just as guilty, responsible and sick as Michael. They both robbed an 8 year old girl of her life. Edit: Terri was in fact the one that killed the 8 year old (Tori) so yes, she is just as sick and twisted as Michael.
@NagsterTheGangster Ah I see. I did not realize that taking part in the kidnapping, rape, and murder of an 8 year old did not make someone in some way sick or twisted and as guilty as the one who planned it. My bad.
@Co You're acting like I'm saying they're a good person lol. The line for who is a monster was crossed LONG ago. What im describing is that each person should be treated individually of what they did in totality and why they did it rather than just painting with a broad stroke. Example being if someone starts snitching because they get a morality change then that should be added into the equation. If they're snitching to save their own ass because the hammer is coming down, then let that be known as well, and examine that manipulation and adhere it to their sentencing.
You seem to have a linear, straight line thinking of good/bad... I think of it more as a Venn-diagram with good and bad overlapping depending how you make your decisions, which makes "you" the middle overlapping part. Their evil may be equivocal, i'm not overly debating that. I'm more getting at the point that they are 2 different people and thus should be investigated and taken into account. It's not that one may be more "evil" than the other, its that their both different kinds of evil that both deserve their individual inquiry.
Anyways, I think we're both preachin to the choir here but we just have a miscommunication on what the other person is trying to convey. Cuz as simple as your comment was, it does make sense at face value. I just think people don't look further than face value these days and we could benefit from doing so. Just my thoughts. Wishing ya the best.
My jaw hit the floor when they described what happened to her. 16 broken ribs and 4 strikes to the head with a claw hammer. A fucking 8 year old little girl. And how on earth can a WOMAN help in doing this, I honestly cannot understand humans like this. Complete monsters.
Social engineering in these videos is astou ding. I knew us and Canada took criminal justice seriously, but never expected it to be this sophisticated.
I bet going through murder cases, seeing the pictures, learning what was done, interrogating murderers, breaking them, making them confess, gives these detectives a hefty amount of rush.
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Jack W2022-06-14 02:28:44 (edited 2022-06-14 02:29:23 )
45:55 The detective left the picture of the victim on the table. Just messing with the guy and I don't blame them. He did something horrible and then couldn't even bring himself to confess. He's a coward and will always be.
This case is heartbreaking, but itās satisfying to see him shaking. He knew his life was over, and thankfully prison isnāt very kind to child touching monsters.
Yes, this kind of ppl is the worst of the worst. It disgust me and I feel deep sympathy for the poor child's family. The only good thing here is he's going to go through hell in prison, possibly a shanking... Criminals have no tolerance for these guys
@Anna-Maria Lopez Nah nah. "Life in prison without any chance of parole for 25 years." I don't actually know what that means, but I think it means even after 25 years, there 's only a CHANCE that he gets out.
@James Nnabuihe it means he can start applying for parole after having spent 25 years in prison, but it doesn't mean that parole will be granted. In cases like these, in all likelihood, the paroles get denied and so the inmate won't ever be let out.
he was shaking because he was going through opiate withdrawal. I think he used the withdrawals to make it look like he's distraught over being arrested.
@James Nnabuihe I just finished 2 years and in that time I saw at least 8 or 9 people with sex crimes get stabbed with shanks made from glass broken out the windows!!!!!
@sam and a lacerated liver. I tried thinking what could have caused that and immediately put it from my mind. We know how that part happened. Disgusting. I hope he gets it in prison.
Guys it's canada, what you get sentenced and what you end up serving are often vastly different even in extreme cases such as rape and murder. The greyhound beheader is already back on the streets for example
Not for children not for grown adult. The problem is that is always the weaker that collapse same inside prison. In the wild life rarely the strongest goes against the weakest with this purpose (among the same species I mean) and yes lion kill youngest to insure his genes prevail. Probably if we have 1 billion each of every other species in this world that would be seen a lot more. To me this is artificial selection. We, the society have given a prize to this humans ( murderer) by keeping them alive for a long time just for them come out and do it again. In the next decade this will increase huge the evidence is out there. Iam absolutely sure that amongst all those citizens two have the same thoughts the same brain structure. I vote for when an advocate wants to defend this people he should be half paid
That's usually the case in prisons but not in Canada. These monsters are protected in this country, in and out of prison. Our sex offender list in Canada isn't even public. Basically you can commit these heinous acts, be protected and then get released after a measly 25 years. This country's judicial system is one of the world's worst.
@Coop you're probably right, I can't see him surviving a 25 year sentence, not for something like this, they'll destroy him inside and if not I can't see him making it to his fifties, with all his emotions being bad ones with hardly any positive ones will take its toll and make the possibility of a heart attack a lot more likely.
YAY, REHABILITATION IS A LIE. I agree this man is a horrible monster who deserves to loose his freedom, but prison was originally meant to spit those shit stain back out into society as decent human beings. It would be quite a hopless and sad idea to view prison as some sort of hell.
In the U.S. a life sentence typically means 22-25 yrs & in this case they got no parole for 25 yrs which means they'll likely be paroled in 25 yrs especially if there's "good behavior." For pedo/child murderer cases that are proven by forensics there should be an automatic "natural life sentence WITHOUT the possibility of parole." That is IF the death penalty isn't an option in that state. There is no rehabilitation for monsters like that. They show their victims no mercy & they themselves should be afforded no mercy either.
I've been binging on these crime channels lately and I didn't realise we have a lot of notorious murderers here in Canada. Considering the size of our population, we seem to punch above our weight. Imagine if Canada has a warmer climate year round, we may have the highest number of monsters per capita considering winter alone can kill you in most Canadian cities - majority of our murders happen during warmer weather.
My hometown of London, Ontario was the serial killer capital of North America in the 70ās and 80ās. 6 operating roughly at the same time. Thereās a book about it.
The detective, Jim Smyth, has a very recognizable voice. It took me a little while to place it, but I realized he's the same detective that interrogated Colonel Russell Williams. He's an amazing interrogator!
@Tomislav B. the first detective introduced himself as Chris Lome (spelling?). The next interrogator is Jim Smyth. He uses an interrogation technique...he's famous with interviewing Russell Williams
First det. is Chris Loam. Jim Smyth enters the room at 33:33 and 46:20. Jim also interrogated Terri-Lynne McClintic and Russel Williams. Jim was also the one who found Tori's remains and he attended her funeral.
Jeremy Stark2022-06-03 22:06:55 (edited 2022-06-03 22:07:40 )
@Sam Goodman dude is a legendary policeman & at the top of his game in these interrogations. So terrible that woman had a chance to save that poor child & chose to turn her head & walk away. Theres a special place in hell for people like this I hope.
Iāve never been a person to fantasise about vengeance. But after watching this I would enjoy ensuring that these two āthingsā spent their last hours in total pain and abject humiliation. Iād make sure that that they were violated and degraded in ways that make them weep and beg.
I have such a respect for those officers, anyone who can sit there and exercise a level of restraint in this scenario illustrates some fantastic police work.
Man this guy is good. He blew me away. I think I would have copped to him pretty soon just so that he would like me too. This interrogator is incredibly skilled at make-believe friendliness.
It's sad how we ALL can relate to the detective being desensitized to these things, we all can relate to that if you watch a lot of these interrogations like I have for years... I used to cry listening to these stories but, that seems to have faded away now unfortunately
I've never seen an offender quiver like this guy, in contrast to the crimes he committed. It seems like he's an empathic person since he's very emotive yet it's almost unheard of for an empathic person to do what he's done!
Thing is they are affected. The detectives actually hate the person even outside the room other detective want to kill the man. However this is a job. His job is to get as much incriminating evidence. That's why there's processes these detective talks. I mean he started off actually trying to " entice" him to feel okay and to get "his story out". Then slowly he turns to finger blaming etc. These are all technique's to make sure the response he gets are in the way he wants to hear. So sure while they are kinda desensitize, they definitely feel disgust.
Very true... They're all affected by it, how could they not be. The job tends to hardens their hearts, it turns them cold twords self induced suffering as they've seen so much actual legit suffering... It's just like war yet detectives rarely get the PTSD treatment they should... It should be mandatory for major crime detectives or those that deal with children...
how could you hurt a child. I cant wrap my head around shit like this. I have a nephew who i love very much and when i hear shit like this, i can feel the pain that this family went through.....its disgusting.
no, there are more innocent people in jail than criminals. in 2100s people will condemn these interrogation tactics as an assault on human cognitive faculties and psyche.
I cant fathom Why or How? I can ALMOST understand Why someone would have the urges to hurt someone, anger, revenge, so on... but rapping and murdering a child? WHY? Whats the motive? Whats the benefit? Even if you dont Care about the kidās life, Why would you fucking do it? It makes No sense
@Enflamed Huevos no there is no difference, that p had to be made, and so therefore a c got hurt regardless, just at the expense now for amusement and also the original filming
@Mommy Bat Dahmer only got worse in prison. Arranging his hot dogs ketchup to look like crime scenes, or , eroticism to him. Whilst working in prison,poking his mop in the rear of fellow inmates in prison. He got exactly what he deserved. I kinda have some sympathy for the man that murdered him.
@ellery eggen oh Iām not defending him whatsoever, Iām just stating the fact that he acknowledged he deserved to be in prison and should never be let out.
@JDS im just curious how they got away with such a low burden of proof, did they find DNA evidence? did they find any single way to link him to the crime outside of the girlfriends testimony?
@Mommy Bat yea, Dhamer did acknowledge he was a monster. He interviewed with Dr. Park Dietz. Maybe an attempt at helping to provide an understanding of such abhorrent behaviour. Maybe helping to prevent this loss of so many lives on the future.
@John B Having pedophile tendencies and acting on them are two different things. You can have the urge and still donāt do it. Instead you can learn how to deal with them or what the reason for your tendency is. There is actually special therapy for this!
No kidding?! Hot dang! Glad you told me now while Iāve still got my whole life ahead of me (especially since Iām pursuing a career as a teacher. Donāt need a nasty mess like that).
Yall dudes wouldnt joke so much about rape if your chances of being raped didnt go down once you left adolesence, i gotta worry about this shit daily. Just having a smoke outside of my house i worry, I fkn hate life.
Jeffrey Dahmer 'visible confusion' Ted Bundy "What's Jeff doing?" Richard Kuklinski "Epiphany...I think" Donald Gaskins "Hey, can I get a ride?" Jane Toppan "Of course"
I agree, i follow that rule every day, porridge for breakfast, don't rape and murder, fish for dinner, continue to not rape and murder, early to bed, alone.
@Mommy Bat I can actually respect people regardless of what they have done by just telling the truth and understanding how unforgivable the crime they did was.
I always think about this when it comes to people that planned out and committed horrific crimes. If they just DIDN'T DO IT they could be doing anything else right now besides sitting in a box forever.
And yet, even knowing I'll never do anything like any of the crimes JCS has ever covered, seeing these interrogations makes me scared shitless I'm going to be interrogated like this one day for some reason.
@Janice Wood my comment meant it's not hard to avoid being a predator in the first place. Like in the same way it's easy to wake up everyday and not murder anyone x I can see how the language is vague and can read inappropriately.
So easy but true comment. Watching these videos I always say to me: donāt matter what my issues in life are, I will never ever sit in an interrogation room facing the fact I killed a child (besides the situation in which I falsely get accused but I donāt think this to be happening).
@Martin Stu fr. These psych tactics work just as well to coerce admission of guilt from an innocent person as they do from a guilty one. The difference is that a psychopath is less susceptible to psych interrogations than a normal person; which it takes a psychopath to commit crimes this atrocious.
I keep wondering what goes through a person's brain when they do things like this, as if he was a junkie needing money for a fix and the only way to get it was to violate and kill that child. Most people have the occasional weird or inappropriate sexual impulse that they'd never act on or even share with their own partner but what makes the impulse control of an adult with no disabilities just crash like that? I wish that behavioral science research unit all the luck in the world.
really blown away how just like the police office stated, he could have let her live and taken a much less consequences...people are just plain stupid i guess :( RIP little girl
I watch these videos and I keep thinking the same thing: How in the hell can anyone actually do such horrific things. I can't even begin to fathom the mindset of people like this.
Itās crazy that we are not all the same, if that was the case there would be no cops etc, we would all be good and that would be that but unfortunately thatās not the case
Iām being addicted to those kind of investigationās i love how they talk and analyze the laying wow and another thing make me always confused why those ppl do something like that how can someone murdur or kill somebody omg I canāt believe that
He's actually, truly feeling sorry for himself, isn't he? There isn't the slightest bit of remorse, he's only sorry he got caught and that Terri Lynn is talking to the police.
I don't even think he thinking about going to jail. All he is bothered about is getting out and scoring drugs. He doesn't care what he did to Tori. He is just thinking about himself and feeling sorry for himself and that's it. I bet he has had plenty of "floor justice"...then again probably not because these pieces of shit seem to be protected more than anybody else.
I live down the street and through my own scouring and investigating, I think the mother was involved. She owed alot of money to dangerous people, she acted shady and lied about certain things after the case, and the area he allegedly took her through (college ave secondary school) was riddled with cameras but very little footage was recovered. She was murdered but not by Rafferty, I think.
Sari, thats the thing that always gets me,they have no remorse, nor sadness,only self pity that they have been caught, and one thing they shouldnt be allowed to say and that is "Im sorry" thats got to cut so deep especially when its a defenseless child, and with a claw hammer !!!! CAN YOU IMAGINE !!!!!!
Killer: āI think youāre a funnny manā Detective: āI think youāre a cold blooded killerā. These detectives were very patient with this evil rude moron.
@Sadie Ireland could not agree more. Sure justice system has improved over centuries but still lacks the true justice in these horrific cases. People say "prison is worse". No, nothing worse than losing ur life forever. He breathes, the girl's lifeless body rots. Not justice in my book.
My hope is that when tech will be good enough to eliminate chance of error, cases like these will lead to death for these worthless humans.
Me and my family are from Woodstock my sister went to school with her bother the poor boy lost his sister I canāt imagine her parents werenāt the most attentive or great tbhā¦. Super sad evil exists people and itās lurking in our communities be safe look out for one another ā¤ļø
The amount of restraint these detectives have from not pummeling the complete sh*t out of this filth is impressive. Hopefully gen pop took good care of this POS.
@ramsfancasey i was about to write 'well if you've done nothing wrong' but then I thought of suspects being beaten until they confess and, as Reservoir Dogs said more eloquently, after a point a person will admit to anything to get the pain to stop. this detective is the opposite extreme. calm and nice and lulls you into false security.
would that be enough to get an innocent person to admit to something? perhaps.
I can safely say that I could never be a cop, Iām a full time single dad of a 12 year old girl. The biggest thing in my life is my child and the only thing that really gets to me is anything bad happening to children. If I was in a room with this sick fuck I can safely say he wouldnāt be walking out of the room or ever again.
This man committed this crime. He was walking around trying his best to act like he didn't before this. Idk how these professionals can be this cool calm and collected with this monster who is capable of something like this.
@OSSS Boys Disgusting trying to promote your channel on a video like this. especially with that video do you think it's a joke what happened to that child?
Had to come back this, miss JCS but this Canadian Detective is the whole bag, his shIt cool Canadian accent and "matter of fact...right Mike, right Mike", is just brilliant, he's my new hero. And in a subtle way he broke this horrible Monster down. God Bless Canada, right Mike
I was arrested for drunken disorderly when I was a lot younger; I got into a fight with another lad; nothing serious. I woke up hungover the following day, and they did the whole good cop, bad cop thing. I could tell it was an attempt to scare me straight, so I just said I realise you're doing the bad cop thing, I already feel ashamed of myself, and can we not do this. He did keep shouting for a bit but eventually stopped; I was being polite and was asking nicely; I'm not even sure if I got a caution in the end. Anyway, the story's point is I don't see how people don't realise what they're up to; it's very transparent.
I never knew there was someone that could talk more than my mother-in-law. Itās that detectiveās wife I feel most sad. Every night at dinner he just goes on and on.
@Myfanwy I don't think innocent would behave like this, innocent in my opinion would say I didn't do anything and yell, I know I would go crazy not just sit there curled like a puppy, if crime was some small brake in, theft, I would probably behave less crazy, but being suspect in this kind of horrible crime that I didn't do, I would jump on that table and yell I didn't do it go out and do your job. What fck evidence show me that evidence show me my face on video.
@Samir DonÄiÄ oh no without a doubt he is guilty, Iām just saying that under the same interrogation techniques, many have given false confessions because of a low psychological endurance to the harsh methods of the detective
@Myfanwy yes, because they don't know how to ask for a lawyer when get arrested, if police think you did something its the worst idea talk to them without a lawyer.
if it wasn't for the camera they would never find out :( God knows how many more cases out there like that...how can you do this to a child to anyone , pure evil.
I even liked "We all make mistakes - that's why pencils have erasers." In the context he used it it's such a strong yet so super inadequate metaphor that it might actually caused something to happen inside the head of Michael
Max lmfao thereās videos of him interrogation other killers like Paul Bernardo and he roasts them all, heās known around here as a very good detective but heās also hilarious sometimes
I know it isn't best practice, like at all, but having the cop just antagonise him and making him squirm was beautiful. That line about "I'm here for Tori" and "is that what you said to her before you killed her? I'm done?"
every investigator does this i swear. even when the perp is stone cold and they gained virtually nothing from the interrogation. they practiced it in the mirror too many times to not say it lol
Iām Australia they are protected in the ābone yardā where they are placed with other child offenders and people needing protection or crown witnesses or dogs - people who dog on other people like crown Witnesses... (thus āthe bone yardā ... ) my dad was with the Australian Federal Police for over 35 years and I remember at 14 he took me into meet the officers/friends at the new station he worked at and he showed me the station holding cells and I said āDonāt they even give them a pillow? Or blanket?ā It was just a bare steel bed - maybe there was a thin mattress I canāt recall totally. And I weird steel toilet with a sink at the top of the toilet cistern and no toilet seat.... I felt bad for people who had to face that back then but now watching these videos - Unless people are actually innocent, and there have been MANY! - Now I think they deserve worse. A hole in the floor to go to the toilet in or a bucket they have to empty and no mattress - def no pillow or blanket .... do you think these people give these little kids a pillow and blanket or care when they defecate and urinate themselves out of fear???? No they enjoy the childās abject absolute fear and terror.
Yes, itās sad when ENTIRELY innocent people go thru this, but unfortunately it happens- and they need to be recompensed and released ASAP with a public apology from the president. The last part will never happen, obviously though. Pfft
But scum like THIS deserve to be treated like animals given they chose to take the life of a baby- or anyone really. Adult, child, baby or even an animal. Cos people commit some heinous crimes against animals too.
But especially the murder and rape of ANY human. Particularly children and babies.
The verdict is 'life in prison without the possibility of parole for 25 years'...what exactly does that mean, is he eligible for parole after 25 years??
@Artifact totally unrelated, just curious......... But, why that screen name......???? Just to troll, to get some kind of reaction, start conversations/arguments, or just to be disrespectful........?????
I'm not trying to start anything, genuinely curious.........
@Michelle Iturralde I want people to question the narrative. George Floyd died of a heart attack due to a fentanyl overdose. This is confirmed with his toxicology report by the coroner, but its not what the media tells us. It may be a touchy subject, but thats the point. The powers that be want us divided. This wasn't a stand up individual, this was a multi felon, child and wife beating (one of his felonies) drug using dreg of society who died because of his own actions in the middle of resisting arrest. But yet hes touted as a hero of the black community. Is this who they really want to represent them? People need to look behind the smoke and mirrors and realize that they dont want the races to ever get along, they could never control us nor quell an uprising if we united. Im glad you asked.
So before you write me off as racist, just know that Im able actually recognize there are MANY black men and women who contribute significantly more to society and have a much greater sense of character than this man. I dont defend the actions of the police officer at all, but atleast he wasn't involved in the death of an actually upstanding black citizen.
@Artifact I can't write you off as a racist, because I honestly haven't heard you say anything racist. Unpopular opinion, yes.....but not racist. I'm actually able to see both sides..... Had this case been the first case of overkill..... Id probably be able to say I completely understand & agree with you. However, it's not. If you're not willing to admit that, then we probably can't/ won't be able to have a civil adult conversation. I agree that the powers that be would love to cause division. However I also think it is up to us, not to allow it. If that is going to happen then we have to be fair & constantly look at both sides & hear each other out. We're going to have to listen to hear & not just to reply & defend our own positions. If that can't be done.... than one really doesn't want to help not cause more division. If you ask me, anyway.
I can definitely agree with you that he shouldn't be made to seem like some kind of hero or role model at all. Then my fairness meter is screaming at me that neither should the officer who stayed on his neck over 9 minutes. The same way we expected Mr. Floyd to take responsibility for his actions, we should expect the officer to, to..... Right.....???? Do you agree that he wasn't following proper protocol as a police officer......???? The one who we have to hold to a slightly higher standard because he after all IS the professional in this situation. Also if Mr. Floyds past is going to be brought into this situation, is it not fair that we then look into the past of the officer.....???? Does he have any other infractions as an officer....???? Is this the first time he's had an incident where a suspect ended up dead....????
I'm also interested to know if you believe in our Justice system....?????
@Michelle Iturralde I agree with you 110%, It's refreshing to be speaking with a rational person for once. Chauvin, the police officer, was completely out of line. Whether or not he deserves prison time, well thats not up to anyone but the court process, but if I had to guess, the fact the cause of death was an overdose is probably going to make it unlikely he does much time if any. You're also right that the guy had a history of misusing his power and I think he shouldve been kicked off the force long ago. He has just as much of a flawed character if not more. I also think the other officers around him should get more than a slap on the wrist, because if they don't hold eachother accountable nobody will. I wouldn't call the other cops around chauvin murderers though, thats a huge stretch. Most of the complaints against Chauvin were actually from other officers though.
As far as believing in our justice system, my only belief is that you'd better have some money if you're going to deal with the courts. The only thing that tips the scales of justice in this country is money. Its wrong, but its been that way for a long time and you would have to ask a law student who's much more intelligent than I about how that could ever be changed. As for our police, as much as I dislike them personally, they're simply a necessary evil, all we can do is keep weeding the bad ones out and taking instances of misconduct way more seriously. There is a department responsible for "policing the police" within every cities police force called internal affairs. I think rather than cutting all of the funding for police, a larger portion should go to that department.
As long as poor black neighborhoods have high violent crime and drug statistics, unfortunately they will continue to be more heavily policed than peaceful suburbs. These communities need to solve their crime problems if they want to deal with the police less. We should also be teaching our youth how to handle police interactions because not following their orders is most likely going to cost you your life regardless of your race or whether its right or wrong. You gotta deal with it in court, not on the street in the moment. Let the cop make mistakes and bring it up in court, as soon as you resist or reach for your pockets or whatever, youre giving the cop all the excuses in the world.
@Artifact everything you said was right on point and I couldn't agree more.
It's not hard being a nice, decent, fair human being....... I'm not sure what the hell is going on with people & this world now a days....it's gone crazy!
@PixelLightShow no they don't, especially high profile crime. He will be placed in protective custody for 23 hours a day and allowed 1 hour of exercise a day alone under the supervision of a guard. All for his safety.
@arbj He's eligible to apply for parole after 25 years. There will be a parole hearing, psychological analysis, acceptance of his guilt, risk to community etc. He may never be released, and if released would be able to be hauled back to prison if any parole terms are violated, or other crimes committed.
Lol as if talking to the police would get him a better room to spend the rest of his life in? Lol the whole psycho mess they play on people is really over the top. Im amazed that anyone actually falls for it but they do all the time.....
@Artifact your opinion is your opinion. Let's say that he did die how you say he died. Why restrain a person in medical distress? Why take him out of the car and not transport him to the hospital? Why send more officers instead of paramedics? The narrative had already been preset because he was the person he was and his life couldn't be saved because he was who he was and the bridges he had burned with the police officers on the scene. If he had been treated correctly he'd been given the drug that counteracts fentanyl poisoning and gone on to jail but their were alternative circumstances that were perpetuated by the officers on scene. You can't be judge, jury and executioner without consequences you'd be killing people all day. When would your day of reckoning come about? For the officers on scene its coming too soon for them to comprehend. The system is there for a reason and when you make yourself more than your pay grade you have to pay for it. Letting someone commit a crime while you just stand there letting it happen and you know better is the same as when they convict someone of murder if they're sitting in the getaway car it's the same thing. You have your own mind and if someone is dieing in your presence as an officer you have an obligation; a sworn duty to prevent that from happening. And on you're he's a criminal note, everyone has made mistakes and in no conviction that this man has had is the equivalent to the death sentence that he was given that day. Injustice committed by anyone isn't right. Put yourself in his shoes; I know you can't because you think your a human step above him, but in all terms of it if you've offended someone this could've just as well been you and that's just the truth.
rest of his life is probably a few days. people who do shit like that to children donāt last long. children and animals. and once prisoners get wind of that, thatās it
@Daniel Naranjo Unless they get put in solitary for their own protectionā¦ but honestly, Iād rather get shanked than spend a lifetime in the hole so I hope he gets solitary.
Jim Smyth "is that what you said to Torri before you killed her?" Everything he says afterwards is straight out of a horror movie. A sad one....i never seen a Detective cut a suspect down like that...he gets straight to the point. ..but here he dug in and those words are going to play over and over in that coward's head.
the constant pressure by the detective was for the first 20 mimutes is so baffling and amazing to watch what you would think wouldn't work, actually do somthing
Jim Smyth deserves to have his name etched in history. This guy has done so many high profile cases and has pulled confessions out of so many dangerous people in insanely short time frames, all while dropping Hollywood-worthy one-liners.
He's been approached multiple times with book, movie, documentary, and TV offers about his life and he always says no. He more or less says "I'm just doing my job"
Do Canadians not have the right to a lawyer in these situations or is this guy just stupid and allowing this expert to break him down and use all of his years of experience to get a confession?
The second policeman mentioning that the other suspect declined lawyering up was a HUGE mistake. That was cringe-worthy and he kept mentioning it. Yikes. No wonder Mike clammed up.
I love the phrase both Det Christ and Det Jim Smyth used in the interrogation, "We are human, human made mistake. That's why pencil have eraser". Hmm, yeah, but the erasers doesn't always work. If you f up majorly, the erasers won't work and you'll end up in either solitary confinement or death penalty...
I feel like with a lot of these the perpetrators would deserve a bit of sympathy if they at least feel bad about what theyād done. But they usually are only concerned with their own futures
If they really wanted him to give up info quick, they should have said something like "you give us the truth with evidence and we will let you be treated by doctors for your withdrawals" and then of course not treat him and allow him to go through the horrible nightmare that is withdrawals. they should give him a dose every 4 days so that he's constantly in a cycle of withdrawing LOL
@missmidnight have you ever been around a woman? It is literally true that there are differences between men and women and on average women talk non-stop a lot more.
Andrew Jenkins2021-01-11 14:40:51 (edited 2021-01-11 14:42:10 )
I was thinking that too. I couldn't go that long, I'd have probably left or broken into "Bad Cop" out of frustration. I'm so glad I'm not a police officer, I'd never get anywhere. š
The only reason the suspect was quiet was because he was too quiet to interrupt
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Vi An MUSIC2021-01-20 00:04:36 (edited 2021-01-20 00:21:04 )
This "man" isn't just any random man who was picked up from any street corner. In reality. He went to school for years to become specialized. 1 plus 1 equal 2. What is truly "impressive" are the attention span of youtibe viewers and how much we love what we love to watch.
@taratorcho69 You know studies actually show that men and women speak the same number of words per day on average, but that women use a more varied vocabulary. So maybe donāt talk about whatās āliterally trueā if you donāt know what youāre talking about.
The fact he could stay on topic of this crime instead of going off is the most impressive to me! I can talk for hours, but i can't stay on topic that long! It's really interesting to think if he possibly became a broken record and repeated things or if he was able to stay on topic, but also not be repetitive.
taratorcho69 linguistics student here. Studies show men talk more than women in conversations, spending a larger amount of time speaking, statistically speaking. Sorry to shatter your sexist illusions. š¤·š»āāļø
At first I thought this was not a good strategy, until I found myself coming unhinged hearing him talk nonstop šš«. Then I realized that someone like the defendant who is already in a heightened state would be completely overwhelmed. Great interrogator!
@huntakilla1234 your comment and the replies to it fucking prove that sexism is still such a big thing in society, itās been so normalised that your comment and many others arenāt even recognised as sexism
@blook Can you explain how the comment is sexist? Firstly its a joke. Secondly, who said talking alot is a bad thing? Op's comment even calls the guys ability to talk alot impressive.
@missmidnight It's a statistical fact that women speak a few thousand more words a day then men, on average. Gender differences exist. Not unlike how men are physically stronger then women and women being more flexible than men.
Don't misuse the label "Misogynist" as an ad hominem attack when you simply can't handle facts and don't have rational argument.
@Username Checks Out An anecdote does not invalidate empirical research. You're using one example whereas across studies women speak an average of around 7000 words per day versus 5000 for men.
lol ....all the feminists freaking out over the comment about women doing this to men.... I bet whomever they're sitting with is getting one h3ll of an ear full of how angry the comment made them, while they just sit there thinking "omg, do you ever stop!?" lol getting pissy, all offended.... Heaven forbid you take a joke and a hard look at yourself... Most women do talk 10x what men do, it's just a harmless truth.
@Beaumont6 yes, it is sexist. There are a lot of different kind of people with different circumstances where talking isn't necessary. There are mute, deaf, and mentally scarred women, and just like everyone else, sometimes they talk, sometimes they don't. A stereotype+ you picking and choosing what facts are relevant just because of a joke, is sexist.
@John Smith statistics don't show that, buddy. Men and women talk about the same amount. Setting matters, and can make things vary slightly to favor one group over the other, but on average, men and women generally talk about the same amount.
@WickMannnn Someone saying this one man talks a lot and men immediately complaining about all womenā¦yeah. Somehow women are a part of a convo where not one is in sight, but her noting the misogyny in even bringing women up is the REAL problem that crossed the line š
@huntakilla1234men are IMPRESSED by womenās ability to talk? Cuz she was giving a compliment to 1 man and you clearly chose to bash all women, that was not a compliment. š¤
Yeah it's crazy how, if you didn't know what he did from the start of the video...he would seem like a normal guy just sitting there being cold and hungry. And you would have sympathy for him. But the fact that we know what he just did makes us look at him in a completely different way.
@missmidnight dude, there have been ACTUAL studies on who speaks more words on average, and women say a lot more than men do. Iām a chick, who does talk a lot, btw.
@Christy Hoehn thats exactly what I thought. It seems heās trying to fill in too many blanks. Someone else comes in and things start to move along. I admit someone constantly talking at you must have its place but it almost felt like he knows hes being recorded and tried far too hard
Olli Rolli How can you even compare someone eating a fkn burger & a killing of a cow to a Child abuser torturing, abusing killing an innocent eight year old child. FFS
@ScamDetector I love all animals.I even tried to go vegetarian, but I love steak, lamb and burgers way too much. Donāt compare a cow to an eight year old girl ffs.
@Aputsiaq Lennert judging by some other comments, itās the usual kind of crap of comparing the sexual abuse and murder of a young girl with the slaughtering of animals for food (and then saying that they are equivalent).
@Inga Kekare Jesus dude. The life of any human is infinitely more than animals. Plus good luck maintaining a functional society without any animal husbandry. Fix ur head
also not boiling lobsters would not affect our society it would just end cruelty human does not need live boiled lobsters meet to maintain healthy life aborigenus
Honestly I never understand why these people never demand a lawyer whenever they start getting interrogated. Like what good can come out of it for you if you do it without a lawyer, like there is absolutely no downsides in demanding a lawyer.
The part where heās saying āIāve witnessed far worse as a copā, and then ends up using the abduction & murder of a child as an example. Shows you that itās hard to even think of a crime worse than that.
@Inga Kekare itās a subjective matter, everyone has their own perception of whatās worse really. But to me crimes against children are of the worst imaginable.
On the contrary I think he only used the example because it is similar to what this man has done. He is trying to pick something the suspect can relate to.
@donovan.romanski2007 Tf you mean, you cant just say same concept, its still different. Like a man killing someone points blank in 1 sec with a gun vs a man toturing a dude is not the same, still killing, not the same
@Blooper Dooper their point is that far worse can be done to a child but morally it doesnt matter as any violation beyond sexual assault is equally as evil and both will be unforgivable.
@Prince Amo so r**ping a small child isnāt a form of torture. When at med school Iāve saw case studies of childrenās bodies being absolutely destroyed by sexual assault. Even just once can cause death or permanently disability. We donāt know the specifics of Tory. But she was sexually tortured. There is no other word.
@Bryan well if you say there can't be worse crime and get only positive response while there ARE worse crimes it's called ignorance and in this case since alot of people agree to her comment it's called public ignorance
@Yung Cris i never told anything that compromises it ..i just stated that he is not the very bottom of human evil there are people bit worse than him too that's all
@Inga Kekare ok sure but life isn't about getting the most traumatic experiences. don't nullify the effects that shit has on people, all experiences affect people differently
@Inga Kekare when your example is child predation of any kind it kind of show that you're missing the point. Sexual crimes against children are the worst type of crime. You can add any amount of days or sickening scenarios to a crime and the second it happens to a child it immediately ups the disgusting ratio times ten. You're defending a child predator saying he's not the worst humanity has to offer, yeah there might be worse crimes but there's a road these people travel to get there and if he wasn't caught he likely would've went down that road. Just because OP didn't get more specific about the crimes doesn't mean they didn't make a good point that child crimes are the worst type of crime.
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Inga Kekare2021-12-05 18:47:16 (edited 2021-12-05 18:47:45 )
@J M make me im energetic vampire boost me feed me
I once heard this story where they strip men off their cloth and tie them up in forests, where wolves and all sort of wild animals start eating them alive. I also remember there was a part that said they'd tell you that your turn was next so the next night you can't sleep while listening to the person getting tortured knowing you are gonna be like that next night. Crazy mad.
They shouldāve just had the lead detective berate him more like that for about an hour or two then go ahead and take him to an open population room with a sign around his neck saying what he did.
Havent finished watching this yet but i hope the woman was charged too... too many women involved in aiding pedophiles and luring the girls because they know they may feel safer with a woman & then try to act innocent. Disgusting and shameful for her
The cost is so high for some pervert to have about 30 seconds of pleasure. As most men can attest to, when something is sexually appealing or arousing, after climaxing that appeal fades almost instantly. It's no longer an overwhelming urge, and usually it's not even satisfying. For that an 8 year old lost their dignity and then life, and two people are spending the rest of their lives in jail. Family members on both sides have lost loved ones, and so many lives are ruined. When you take all this into account, crimes like this deserve capital punishment. The amount of destruction caused by the perpetrator can never be repaid. Although it's at least satisfying to know they will live in a concrete box and be tormented by other prisoners for the rest of their life.
@Jonas Andersson If you havenāt seen it, thereās this one done in a the same style as JCS. Jim Smyth, the ābad copā, is the detective. Fascinating how he works the guy.
@Angela O'Brien My thoughts exactly Angela, despite all the training , they tried good cop bad cop, or the wear him down technique. Rafferty could take a few vikoden, or happy pills and not give a flying fuck what this detective was saying. I don't think a donut and tea are an effective tool to get he guy to spill his guts. Sorry, all this training and expense resulted in zero, the guy didn't talk..
@Emily Sew it'd be one long conversation about morals in society with him contemplating on how long I should be grounded by how much of a threat level I was.
@Alex F No that was not the point. The point is to get the suspect to talk, which is pointless if you never even give him the opportunity. The detective is an idiot. He interrupted the suspect every time he started to talk.
@Just No Lol no I don't have to, you're the person who pissed themselves over how crazy people are to dare criticize police when they're the only ones standing between monsters & us.
If you're going to be that hysterically dramatic then you should have an answer for why they didn't stand between this monster & Tori.
@plane gaper what makes you think you have any idea what you're talking about? He could do a perfect job and not get the result he was looking for... Interrogation is not mind control. Some guys are just not going to say anything no matter what, especially after a lawyer tells them not to.
Plus, the guy was found guilty, so if all you're basing your ignorant opinion on is the result, he did a perfect job.
@BĆønzĆ«aux BÅĆ«uxgrÄn no he didn't, guy refused you speak multiple times, and they explained why he was talking to fill the void. See this is what happens when you try to talk about things you're completely ignorant of, everyone thinks you sound silly.
And the guy was found guilty, it was open and shut before they got in there, but you didn't think of that did you? Naw, cuz you didn't think at all.
@Jose Garcia Oh? Pray tell, what would happen in situations like this if these detectives, trained in criminal psychology, were defunded? You and your ilk would take their place? Such sheer idiocy.
@Angela O'Brien And the weeks of investigation leading to a child murderers capture is a total waste of time? Do you read every book by it's cover, without turning the first page? How ridiculous.
I know this one and the one with Canada's #1 embarrassment The Colonel...which is the third with Jim Smyth ? I would appreciate it very much...Thanks from Alberta
the interviewer drove me nuts when he kept saying "okay". After every sentence! Geez~ you would think a professional interviewer doing this as much as he has would figure out that it's annoying and too repetitive and completely unnecessary. He also made the rookie mistake of having the perp sit by the door. NEVER let the perp get between you and an exit. That's police 101.
If that guy was genuinely innocent, or trying to pretend his best to be, then he should have been more like āoh my god! What exactly happened? Thatās so not me!ā
Huge respect for all good agents that spend hours in a closed room with a criminal putting aside their own emotions just for the sake of getting some closure to any victim's, broken hearted, families...
Ngl this sounds like a cool job, like i want to talk to and met fucked up people like this, i want to know what makes then tick and why or how you know.
Actually Iād like to do this job too. I am kind of the guy youād say āemotionlessā for some reason these stuff donāt effect me like it effects most people. I think Iād be quite good but who knows. Homicide investigation is cool and interesting.
Since theyāre alone in a room even if there are guards outside arenāt these people risking their safety too. Like throughout the whole interrogation I was wondering what if he threw the tea at him or tried choking him with the blanket.
That last line was brilliant! " enjoy the rest of your life.... this is the kind of room youre going to be spending it in"... i just cheered when he said that!
Jim Smith is the absolute bomb. Heās interrogated and got confessions out of all of Canadaās main nut jobs including Russel Williams. Itās an art form and heās truly an artist at his craft.
Heās good,l but he didnāt get a confession out of a few of the big ones, including Rafferty
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CJ Ryan2020-06-17 00:05:15 (edited 2020-06-17 00:05:35 )
e l e n a nothing is 100% but heās successful most of the time, fortunately in this case they didnāt even really need a confession because there was overwhelming evidence and his crime partner was testifying against him.
BladezNShadez TX I disagree in that I think having a confession was important to that case, though, and they got lucky. Especially with Terri Lynnās testimony at his trial. She testified that she lied in her statements and he didnāt kill her...
@Rue Dadi yes, hes the "bad cop" in this, " stop hiding under your security blanket and be a man" hes the best ive ever seen, watch the Russell Williams intero.
BladezNShadez TX we still like to have confessions. There have been many cases where bizarre technicalities in forensics have resulted in reductions or acquittals for obviously guilty folks.
CJ Pink to be fair, he didnāt really get her to talk. They were still thinking Toriās family was guilty, but Terri-Lynne was pissed at Michael because sheād heard heād been out with other women while she was locked up. She kind of blew everyone away when she started talking.
Again, not to take anything away from Jim Smyth. I love watching his interviews, heās great, certainly one of the best. Just trying to keep facts straight.
It was odd when the detective said he needed to assess whether or not there was a risk that he would commit another crime like this. I was wondering how this guy would ever have a chance when he's clearly spending the rest of his life behind bars. But maybe that's not the case?
His pathetic fake victimhood and self-pity are truly sickening. How that detective didn't rip his head off I'll never know. I sincerely hope he gets his karma in jail once the other inmates hear about what he did.
it hurt so bad when the investigator said that she was gonna go have a party because her mom redecorated her room. he deserves everything that's coming to him and worse.
And that all of this happened because she just wanted to see a puppy. So innocent and sweet. It's so heartbreaking that her life was violently cut short because of these monsters
@rainy tee.Your probably Right I guess , had to be something like that ! I suppose there are certain drugs that are so addictive and some addicts will do anything to get them , I am not speculating that's why but your thought certainly is one reason, there is no good reason but. Hard to think of any reason that any person would help someone doing that ! What a sick minded monster man ! Just wish she would have stopped him instead of helping to do that just a travesty.
and still there is a chance that this monster can be released after 25 years. I just recently became Canadian I live in toronto and I guess I should move to usa cause over there he would get life in prison WITHOUT possibility of parole
We focus on stuff like her mom redecorating her room, because we're too afraid to think about the physical events from her point of view. You're not even four feet tall reading these Goosebump stories about mean giants. She was subjected to the worst possible harm in the most painful possible way under the most frightening circumstances possible.
I honestly don't think we should expect these guys to do more than maybe two of these kinds of cases in their career- and after the second one they should be able to retire with benefits. I realize what the detective was doing trying to minimize it and talk about it being mistake- repeating several times how he's not disgusted or angry with him, etc.- but I don't think it's ok to keep doing that to your mind. To have to keep seeing these things, studying them in detail, trying to work with these monsters- it's literally more than we ask of soldiers who see serious action if you think about it. God bless these men- I sincerely hope they are ok and they get out of this line of work in time. We should take care of them the same way we do our soldiers. Well- the same way we should treat our soldiers- unfortunately we fail them as well.
I have just started this video, but once I heard Ontario Canada I am already preparing myself for a ridiculous sentence under Canadian ālawā. I will watch the rest of the video and hope that I am I am wrong, but from what Iāve seen in Canada, Australia and British commonwealth countries I doubt justice will be served.
I don't know how the detectives refrain from just beating him to death right there in that room. Just watching him portray himself s a poor little victim enrages me.
I notice this with our men who commit heinous crimes. I donāt want to mention their names because Iām sick of them getting attention but one American killer who tortured, raped and killed his two victims sat and cried to the detectives when he was caught and was whining it was his girlfriend who did it (the gf was actually an ex, no criminal record, was nowhere near the crime, but he gave her the victims clothes for some reason and he committed the crime with four other people so it was obvious it wasnāt the gf). Anyway he was crying like a baby. Days earlier he put two innocents through hell.
@Cheese Guy I say put em all together & let whatever happens happen! Iām usually a pretty compassionate empathetic person but when it comes to child killers,pedos I have no sympathy
@Ty The Great i just want to know why you want to sympathetize for the murder/pedophile/rapist? During the time, he was enjoying himself (raping) then the murder, yeah should he could've gotten traumatized by murder. When he is at fault for his own though. So him being traumatized wouldn't stop him from doing it again. And again. Would you keep sympathetizing? The correct thing is to sympathetize for the child who had the last moments of rape, and being butchered. And she couldn't stop it. But he could.
@Ty The Great I'm surprised so many people interpreted your comment as "sympathy". Seemed like you were just trying to point out that someone who did something monstrous wouldn't necessarily be immune to the possible psychological repercussions of their own actions. I have no idea whether this was the case with the guy in question but it's not an implausible concept. Suppose it could be argued that your original comment seemed defensive but ultimately it just seemed like an explanation/acknowledgement to me, not a justification or an overly sympathetic response.
Whenever they pass up the offer to get food in these interviews I'm always like "aw hell c'mon get that chow, a nice KFC feed or a Macmeal or something"... then I remember I haven't got the gutwrenching feeling I've killed some kid and my whole life's over, I guess that could interfere with your tendies
There's a thing where psychiatrists/psychologists have to take a test where they have to be able to maintain composure if someone comes to them for professional help about pedophilic problems, that person went to them for professional help to stop these thoughts and I can only assume some interrogators need to have the same sort of composure and be trained to "be on their side" so they can draw as much from them as possible. Still crazy though, could've been avoided completely by going to a professional.
That all happened because the sweet little angel went back to get her motherās butterfly earrings probably cause they meant something to her mother and she cared for that... my heart just canāt š Rest In Peace little angel
AlyMetz No, not a disgusting man. Youāre being too kind. A monster in the first degree. May his nights in a cell play out what he did to that child before killing her.
Jara thatās very true , he wouldāve done what he had done no matter what and through everything and by all means , and it couldāve been any innocent young girl , just what an unfortunate situation for such an innocent act , so simple and caring thing to do to get her momās earrings, such a misfortune!
@P-Tech Yeah, poor women, I hope her teachers dont feel responsible either, I'm a teacher and I know I'd blame myself if something happened to one of my students just outside of my school, christ I feel sick just thinking about it.
@Alvaro aka Tico Like the detective said, hopefully his cell mate will make googly eyes with him and play the same sort of games he played. He'll probably not be put in general population though.
Lord Nuetral the point was they said āit happened because she went back to get the earringsā when it isnāt anyoneās fault besides the people that decide to kill
It says in the Bible that The Unforgivable Sin done by those who hurt children. I truly respect this investigator for keeping so composed. I wouldnāt have been able to. These predators should be drawn and quartered.
I thank God we have a system in place that keeps people like this from running rampant. Well, at least fro the most part. I think we would be better off without places like Epstineās island, but at least the system gets it right most of the time. I remember when I was in Afghanistan back in 2013 some of the interpreters would talk about chi boys and what happens to kids when their father dies. Donāt ever take our system for granted.
Just curious: is it legal for them to promise food and then not bring it? Wouldnāt that be considered CUP? Iām hoping to become a police officer one day and then hopefully a detective eventually so thatās my interest in knowing.
Every time the detective said "okay?" "all right?" I cringed.
I hope that fucking monster rots in prison. I feel sick thinking about everything that 8 year old girl had to endure and what her family must be going through
I hate how this man is ātoo sick to talkĀ ā since āa lot has happened todayā yet he can easily sexually assault a young girl and kill her. This guy deserves everything coming for him.
I read before that most prisoners can't stand child predators, so hopefully they give him what he deserves. Which makes sense... everyone has a code, even criminals, and doing anything involving a child is far beyond the pale for almost every person in the world.
Technically the girl killed the child but yeah he did rape her so......yeah I totally agree with you. Apparently later evidence showed she was more involved in the crime then she admitted to. Big yikes.
@Kevin Baxley someone's never been to Canadian prison. Also in the US most prisons are privatized. No lie my buddy had an Xbox in his cell when he was spending time for robbery.
@Owen Watkins meanwhile in Canada he only got 25 years š¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļø meaning he will most probably walk the streets again and be able to enjoy his last years outside where he absolutely doesnāt deserve to be IMO
Can anyone explain to me why the suspects in these interrogation videos from JCS & other true crime channels like EWU don't immediately lawyer up? I know that a lot of times, the suspects aren't necessarily arrested before questioning - and that police use subtler techniques to question said suspects in order to get answers. But I don't understand how these criminals don't request counsel straight away (especially given the fact that these people already know they're themselves guilty). Is it arrogance and narcissism? A mix or variation of something similar? It boggles my mind that anyone would be that stupid and over the years of watching several forms of true crime media, I still can't work it out!
I honestly think part of it is that sitting in a jail cell is incredibly boring. The detective is somebody to talk to. Also, I think some of them are arrogant and think they can talk the cop out of suspecting them. Lawyering up counters peopleās instincts, but you have to do it.
The way the second detective just threw that photo right infront of his face made me laugh. Sometimes, I want to do that kind of thing infront of lying creatures from work. š
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Philippe Biendon2022-03-24 18:18:18 (edited 2022-03-24 18:22:25 )
What a set of mind this interrogator has. He keeps talking , talking , talking back and forth, leaving no chance to the suspect TO THINK !!! When he says to him : you haven't been mean to me, you have been nice to me is reversed psychology. He s saying to him I'm nice to you , i don't want you no harm, you can trust me !!!
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Oliver Eckert2022-03-30 03:06:40 (edited 2022-03-30 03:21:48 )
I grew up knowing this name... always being too young and too unaware to understand why I knew the name. Holy Shit is it wild to grow up and learn later in life why I know Tori and Mike's names
YouTube demonetized him after the 'What Pretending To Be Crazy Looks Like' blew up and whiny bitch advertisers complained that they didn't want their ads appearing in that kind of content. Why the hell it matters where your ads appear I'll never know.
Canadian Police: Cereal bars, gives him tea with sugar, a donut, a blanket, doesn't want to offend him by calling him Mike. American Police: Won't give Jeff his butterfinger.
@Beats Gelato if you say you want to speak to a lawyer they have to let you immediately. he never said that. he already spoke to a lawyer, who likely said don't say anything.
ā@FortMinor You know the U.S. isn't great either, right? And probably a lot of other countries, I just don't hear as many cases, outside of some of the infamous ones like those two kids in the James Bulger case. The police constantly have to hide their identities to protect them from public execution, as in the public literally trying to kill them. Their original sentence was 15 years I believe (I don't remember if it was lengthened or shortened afterwards), and even though both were 10 at the time, that's still incredibly short for what they did to a 2 year old, and how horrific it was. It was at least on the same level as this guy though, if not worse
He got life in prison with a chance of getting out after 25 years. That is the harshest sentence here and virtually he has no possibility of getting out.
@dancingdendrites96 That's probably a minimum, same in the UK but many people who commit murder, especially those who kill children. Get considerably longer than 15-20 years. Difference being here is that unlike the US, there is almost always in theory the chance of parole.
@Š¼ŠøŃŃ Š¼ŠøŃ in canada theyre allowed to question you regardless of if a lawyer is present or not. Theyre only required to provide you a phone to call one.
What gets me is imagining the conversation to lure that poor girl away. "You like puppies? I have a really cute one you can come see." She just wanted to see a puppy man. So sad and so sick
I thought this guy had already confessed for the first 15 mins, this interrogator is hilarious, sounds like a car salesman. Nice job, though, he made the sale šš»
@Radical Goose Thank you. I never pressed charges but our whole family knows what he did. Some believe me and some donāt but thereās nothing I can do about that. He will have to answer to god in the end and thatās what matters.
@J Mart I thought that also but I did see a video about a man named Larry Lawton and he describes how they would ātake careā of other prisoners who molested children. He was in prison for jewel theft and wrote a book about his time in prison and Iām not so sure on how true that story is but I believe itās in the book he wrote and it is definitely on his channel on YouTube which is where I heard the story.
@J Mart https://youtu.be/zkGF_8SegT8 hereās the link if youāre interested. I went through and found it. Edit: the time stamp where he starts talking about it is 14:21.
@free time Sorry you had to deal with that, sweetie. I had a similiar thing happen, but my parents have been the molester's side the whole time because he "feels bad" and has been distraught about what he did 20 years ago. Jellyfish have more spine than pedophiles.
@Euagaha Phish Iām so sorry that theyāre on his side. That breaks my heart to hear and I hope you are doing well nowadays. He will get his one day.
Yea absolutely...when my sister and I told on our step father, he did 1 week of crying, then when his crying wouldnāt suffice, he killed himself. His reasoning? āHe couldnāt handle the thought of what āinhumane and cruelā things were going to happen to him in prison.ā Un-fucking-real the way they think.
@Nicole Terrinoni He sounded like a particularly narcissistic individual. Couldn't handle what they'd do to him prison? Come on...nevermind what he did to you both. Just disgusting how they are.
@Mish375 S šÆ...I was too young to understand just how narcissistic he was until I years into therapy. We had moved across the country damn near just for my mom to get away from him, and he was still trying to convince her we were lying, never mind his journal she found. He would call the house over and over begging her to come back, by herself, so they could talk. Weāre truly convinced that had she went back, she would also have been killed. Their minds do not work right...I will never understand how they see things thru their eyes, or how they process what they see and think.
@Nicole Terrinoni Well they are born pure evil, I believe. They crave control and subjugation. I'm convinced that these types were born without that part of the brain that allows them to admit their wrongdoings. I'm glad you all got away from him.
Pedophiles are weak and powerless people by and large, it's why they gravitate towards dominating children, it gives them the power they are incapable of otherwise experiencing. It's why they ALWAYS cry and crumble when they're met with justice or confrontation, cos the illusion of power is shattered the moment they're not with children and caught.
@free time that is so sad that happened to you. But good on your father for believing you and confronting the sicko. That doesnt happen as often as it should, and the parents end up failing their own kids.
@Twilly Trix I disagree. Psychopaths are born with a defect in the brain that causes them to possess no empathy and other criminals have been born with birth defects as well (or perhaps were injured at some point). I think on most levels you have the genetics vs environment play out. But, in the case of a psychopath, they are born that way. (Had a friend who worked in the field and she clarified the differences between psychopaths and sociopaths to this degree)
@arÄ« the samurai I thank god that he believed me because if he didnāt I donāt know what I wouldāve done. I feel so bad for people who have parents who donāt believe them or the parents that know whatās happened and donāt care. God bless the victims. Edit: I fixed a grammatical error.
@MoD yep they need their own island. Like the lepers in the old days. Pedos can never ever ever ever be rehabilitated. Itās a mind thing not a body thing. They need their own place or dead. Or general population in prison and let ācell blockā justice take its course.
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Harry Underwood2021-04-19 19:07:55 (edited 2021-04-19 19:09:15 )
Seems like they do it to achieve some sense of control over another - they're so pathetic that they have to turn to doing one of the (if not the) greatest crimes against nature to feel at least somewhat significant. I don't think there has been a case of one of them being convicted where they haven't been physically doing anything in response but cry. Suicide usually follows, but not out of guilt - out of fear when the reality that even other criminals detest pedophiles confronts them. Granted, those convicts are usually isolated from the others, but it's still great to watch them feel how their victims felt for a while.
Edit: My Brain is essentially a fruit, so I can't spell.
@JUSTiN XOMAN no offense, I can see why you think that, but that's scientifically not accurate. There are people who are "mentally still kids", I believe it's called regression, and it's absolutely nothing like pedophilia. Pedophilia is a paraphilia and regression can be a response to trauma. While I have no doubt that there are probably instances where pedophilia is caused by trauma, that doesn't make it excusable.
@Norwegian Cat in future for serious statements like that you should put "/j" (joke) or "/s" (sarcasm) as clarification on the end. Your joke was in poor taste but as an onlooker I can appreciate that this can inspire growth in future. Obviously, it's not my place to accept this apology, though. It's big of you to admit that you were wrong.
@Dirty Space Communist I don't care what you think about it, I'm glad justice will take place. I hope he gets what he deserves tenfold in the prison system
@J Mart thats why prisons keep pedos and child killers away from the other prisoners as they know that if they were around the others then they would be killed realy quickly as not even hardened criminals, drug dealers, gangsters ect. They wont let that slid
@Nathan Miller Iād feel terrible but that would require him to be around children which he isnāt anymore. My family wonāt take them around him and ever since he crashed his car he canāt leave the house and he relies on others to bring him what he needs. Heās an old bag and Iām glad heās not mobile and is almost nearly blind. He only has partial sight in his right eye and thatās slowly fading.
@Mish375 S but the thing is that not every psychopath is evil or a criminal, a lot have normal lives and jobs, the only difference between a psychopath and a normal person is that a psychopath does not have the same capability to feel empathy. This doesnāt mean that they will become criminals or monsters.
This investigator is amazing, no wonder he ran the behavioural unit. I hate how pedos cry when they're caught, every time. Makes you look more pathetic.
Let me think... Genocide would be worse, history knows dozens of those. As well as the rest of Geneva convention. Bombing of civilian targets, US did it with atomic bombs in 45, but many armies have done it with conventional weaponry at some point. Russian and japanese armies did their share of raping and murdering civilians as they advanced, children included, noone was ever punished for that.
Terrorism would be next on the list. Many people died in 9.11, but I'd be more worried about state terrorism like one in Tiananmen Square. In Afghanistan or Israel civilian targets explode every year, and shootings in the US still happen.
Torture. Done by law enforcement by many nations right now. None of these can even closely compare to what people done in middle ages of course, like execution by impalement. Burning witches alive is pretty mild in comparison, but still much much worse than pedophilia.
History knows many instances when entire families have been killed, eaten, and their heads put on a spike... Sorry, but if you think the topic of this video is one of the worst crimes imaginable, it means you have pretty bad imagination.
@free time whether they believe you or not doesn't mean it didn't happen to you. That's their shit and they are making you do the work because facing reality would be "too hard". I believe you. The ones that do believe you are the real ones. Hold them close, stand with their support and forget the rest. Let them fall behind you like dust in the wind. Remember you are so much more than just those moments. You are loving and you are loved, your voice is needed in the world, you are brave even though sometimes I'm sure you don't want to be. Thank you for sharing here with us, and making it easier for others to share their experiences.
@free time Sorry for dredging this comment back up so long after it was posted, I just wanted to commend you for your perseverance and to extend to you my sympathies. Hope life is well for you, friend.
"Get rid of your fuckin security blanket" is always so satisfying to hear the detective say.
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Red Ash2022-03-07 01:42:31 (edited 2022-03-07 01:42:39 )
I get such a satisfaction from listening proffessionals working and talking to the criminals. I mean, just the sheer amount of experience in every word and move. It's just wow, amazing. Huge admiration towards everyone, who is working with humans psychology
David Gould this is how they manipulate the criminal to get what they want out of them when they know their luring or hiding something. Sometimes even innocent people are in this situation.
he had been coached well by his lawyer, he even said so. that's the first advice a lawyer will tell you is that you don't say anything and always maintain your innocence.
Jason Dwight oh there we are then, the interrogation didnāt work so itās the interrogatorās fault. The interrogators did their job perfectly itās just the criminal has the upper hand as heās got the knowledge. Nothing any interrogator can do about that other than try squeeze it out of them with no certainty that it will work.
@Plumsmuggler hmmmm you being up a valid point now that I think about it...I received a parking ticket about 11 years ago when I lived in AZ that I never paid. I've never heard anything about it since!
@sheiks65 pretty sure if I had warrants the nice police officer man that gave me a speeding ticket a few months ago would have been more than happy to let me know about them.
Correct. Theyāre not real in the sense that no real damage is done. Itās a process crime. If the court forgives it and you walk away without paying, who loses anything? No one. I think thatās what the detective meant.
Chip Reid based on the sentence structure, they do. If I say āThis is not black, itās whiteā, it is a comparison, and implies that one is not the other. So, if reality is not a parking ticket, and a parking ticket is not reality, then which is it? He wasnāt listing true statements that donāt have anything to do with each other, as in āThis object right here is a lamp. And this object over here is a pencil.ā He was making a juxtaposition. He shouldāve phrased it as - This isnāt some parking ticket on a slip of paper, this is an actual crime with real consequences.
@WonkaaVision I do believe in the Matrix actually having done trips in my life and seeing behind the scenes. I also believe in the Oneness having seen it and been part of it
Love it that youre thinking outside of the box, wish more people did
Pay your tickets. I've seen enough true crime on here to know it will be that ticket that gets you pulled over, and then they'll find the body in the boot.
Cornell Benson āThereās always got to be the one or a a certain type who post something like this. Getting technical on something that really has nothing to do with what the f this is about. The horrors this little girl had to endure and you lock onto the parking ticket comment? To show how smart you are? Need some attention? Well you got mine with this ignorant comment. If you were smart you would have known when this interrogator said it exactly what his point was. But this needs to be about you. What youāve brought up is the most important and Tori needs to take a back seat to the real issue. People not saying things exactly how they are supposed to and the incredibly smart and vigilante folks like yourself keep us sheep on the right track. š
@pepperwestwood no the warrant is to get you to court to tell you it's a fake ticket and not to worry about. I'd go to court cause if you dont then you really will be in reality
@Softman Armstrong thats where you are wrong my friend. I actually went up to the cop shop a couple weeks ago and asked about it. They said I had nothing on my name. No outstanding fines. Disappeared!!!
I totally agree and I wish the law aloud to turn over these freaks to the family no coffee and donuts ...no ham n cheeses in jail its called a stoning like the good old day's...stop wasting tax payers money to feed this worst of animal !!!
We should ALL refuse to pay ALL tickets and call to extend our court dates and the system will be so backed up and we all just keep asking for extensions and extensions on payments. "Ive only got .35 cents to pay today tho your honor"
Joe Lycet would agree parking tickets are not real.
(British reference)
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Danny Finch2020-08-15 02:37:43 (edited 2020-08-15 02:38:06 )
@Confuzed Penguin also, the fact you are driving much faster than the earth spins around underneath you at 22.000 mph compared to the speed they catch you. And standing still, parked on a spinning ball makes you not stationary thus the parking ticket is not valid, real.
Everyone with unpaid parking tickets, I knew a guy who spent 2 weeks in jail because of a single unpaid ticket from years back. Might wanna get those tickets taken care of before they come back to bite you
In the concept of being a crime, which is legally defined as requiring a victim or injured party (where I live), parking tickets are, in fact, not real no
@Plumsmuggler oh boy, herr in my cpuntry they do that on pourpose then send you a bill for thousans of dollars of inflation and interest hahaha , better pay that
Something about this bothers me greatly. Well...besides the whole pedo and murder part, that is.
The accomplice's story doesn't make sense. If a guy walks up to you and tells you to 'get a kid' from a nearby school for him...there is really just ONE option for what that could mean. She didn't seem mentally challenged or underdeveloped to the degree of not getting that, she used that as a tear jerker in her defense. So why exactly did she not understand right off the bat what exactly he was gonna do with the little girl BEFORE she brought her to him? No chance she didn't know what was going on. No chance she just suddenly had a ding-ding-ding moment as she saw the girl on his lap. And then what does she do? Smash her head in with a hammer 'out of mercy'. WTF. She wanted to harm the girl, no doubt. She, just like SO many other women that get caught, use tears and a sob-story to get away with a slap on the wrist for serious crimes. She's no better than him and shouldn't get a lighter sentence. She doesn't deserve a shred of sympathy.
At 33:33, as the detective is detailing how the "process" will go, he should have insinuated that HIS findings will be part of the deciding factors in whether he gets back and/or how much his bail would be. The detective could've played up that cars by merging it with his original plan of actions being the "My role is to determine Raffertys threat level", by saying "if I have nothing to tell the judge, you'll must likely be denied bail" and I bet my bottom dollar THAT few been the thing that gets him talking as ANY chance to "escape" the "process" would be been too alluring to ignore
But, in Canada I know their detectives are bound by higher ethics than in the states, our government is ALLOWED and encouraged to "lie" to us as they are well within their "rights" to do so... So, my idea might not work up there but, I wish he would've explored that
When the detective asked him what his biggest fear was and he said "losing my life" I wanted to reach through the screen and choke him. How dare he say that after he murdered an innocent little girl who had so many years to live and so many dreams to make come true.
But Michael Rafferty really didn't kill her, it was his girlfriend, Terri-Lynne McClintic, who tortured Tori by bashing her ribs with a hammer, and then finished the job with a few hammer blows to the head.
She admitted during the trial that Michael didn't kill Tori, and that she was the one who did it, which is why they both got the same sentence.
Terri for kidnapping, torture and murder, and Michael for rape. It's infuriating that after what she did, the girlfriend got sent to a cushy minimal security "healing lodge" for Native American women...
Thankfully she's back to a "real" prison now, after much public outrage, and after Toriās father, Rodney Stafford, led a protest on Parliament Hill and opposition politicians hammered the government on the move in the House of Commons.
Scary how easily she had managed to fool those cops at the station, by placing all the blame on Michael. She almost got away with it...
Both those monsters deserve to rot in a medieval dungeon...
Well said, my blood boiled and he is utter disgrace to be human beingā¦Zero Toleranceā¦Culprits life is life and innocents life is nothingā¦Eliminate such Evil among usā¦I love to be violent and dangerous killer and nightmare for such evil creatures without any remorseā¦Life for Lifeā¦
Awe looksey here coppers? We have a possible female murderer here, she said she wanted to strangle him put her hands right through the screen and choke him out? She could be The Great Canadian Female Strangler here people right under our noses? ... Fact Check this shit out people?... Just kidding lol... Sister of the Zodiac... cool just came up with a new idea for movie....
@Poopy poop Poop - His girlfriend was the one who tortured and murdered little Tori, it was proven at the trial.
She stomped her repeatedly with her shoes, hit her with a hammer, stuffed her in a plastic bag while she was still breathing and finally, bashed her head in with the hammer through the bag.
Combined with the fact that she's the one who kidnapped Tori in the first place, I'd say It's both illegal and immoral.
It made me wince when he said how she was killed. I have a 9 year old little girl and hearing stuff like this hurts my very being. I just wanna build a time machine so I can go back and help this poor little girl from ever having to go through that. It's just not fair that things like this happen. That's one of the huge reasons I left religion. No way is there a all good omnipotent god letting things like this happen. I am sorry if this offended you. It's not my intention what so ever to offend anyone. Your right to your set of beliefs is important. But I just can't believe that in any world view this would be ok to let happen. It hurts my heart to think she went through that. The lady that helps him should get the exact same punishment if you ask me.
@Poopy poop Poop - Yeah, there were a bunch of twists and turns during the trial.
I wrote another post in this same thread, 4 days ago, where I detailed things a bit more.
It shouldn't be Tori's poor father's job to make sure that the woman who kidnapped and killer his daughter is kept in prison, but that's what's happening...
Hi! New Subscriber here! So? Is he ever gonna to confess or am I forcing myself to listen to endless lies? That poor 8 year old, precious beautiful baby girl, prayers to all that were effected by these monsters!!
But that kid is Chris Hansen and he needs his dad to take a seat because he has a few questions to ask him. And theres no trying to get out of it because he has the transcripts.
Ah the girl got life as well, I just googled. Good. She deserved it. How could a woman help do that to a little girl. Just as sick as the bloke. She knew what he was doing. That detective speech at the end was epic. šš
TBH, of all the horrible people on JCS this guy really freaks me out the most. The juxtaposition of his cowardice and childlike behavior with the crime he committed is incredibly disturbing and makes you question the goodness of humanity.
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The True Patriot2021-12-16 03:45:00 (edited 2021-12-16 03:45:59 )
Absolutely... he's frightening. His behavior doesn't match his crime, that's enough to unnerve anyone. It's a well-known psychopath tactic designed to confuse you.
@Melissa Hernandez-Smith Said he was under threat from other prisoners (he wasn't) and used the money she gave him to buy things at the prison gift shop for himself and his friends in prison.
Itās adults that never mature that do these things. The horror is in their size and the things they put the kids through.. but the dad that drowned his kids as they are crying and asking him what heās doing.. thatās truly horrific.. and all because he wanted to start his life over..
Man you can go ahead and lose faith in humanity. This is just a video on the internet of ONE of these types of incidents. This stuff is always happening, we just arenāt given an hour long YouTube video on all of them. It sucks but itās true.
Humanity isnt about good and bad, we are what we are. This is why mental health should be a bigger part of development education al lover the world, BUT IT ISNT. That is society as a whole being OK with this shit when it all comes down to it and THAT scares me more than this monster.
@George Rockwell āThe reality is that being evil is EASY for creatures like us, and being good is a constant battle that we have to fight to maintain every day of our lives.ā
You really believe that most people are constantly at odds with themselves fighting the urge to be evil to other people?
@GamerGuy760 Yep, and I believe that the reason most people donāt commit crimes is because theyāre scared of getting caught and punished, not because theyāre āgood peopleā. You want proof? Look at what happens whenever thereās a natural disaster or some other crisis that causes a suspension of law and order: people go crazy looting, burning, committing violence, etc. If people were basically good, we wouldnāt need extensive law enforcement apparatuses to keep people from gratifying all their sick desires without restraint.
Im only halfway in. TBH i really wish i didnt feel compelled to watch this. Really sinks my heart. The insanity rationale dwindles here the more he speaks. Its just purely selfish, entitled weasel.
Like Bernardo, he was fairly handsome enough to meet attractive adult women, excel in life. And be an alpha. I just dont get it.
He is one of the few people who have made my skin crawl. Wow, when that cop was up in his face it must have taken the utmost self-control to not wring his neck.
From a victim standpoint of a lesser but still awful crime (grooming) I can say with absolute certainty that he wasn't crying and shaking because he felt bad about what he did. He was crying and shaking because he felt bad that he got caught and was scared of facing the consequences of his disgusting actions. I hope he never gets out. Same with Terry.
@George Rockwell Crimes during a disaster go up, sure, but murder, while maybe rising a little, certainly doesn't become commonplace. Plus, the vast majority still aren't committing any crimes, even during disasters. (Most) humans have a natural aversion to killing others. This is actually a problem in militaries. That's why we have to train soldiers to immediately snap and shoot the second a target pops up, so it becomes an instinctual reaction rather than one you have to process. Of course this can be useful for other things too, like quick reactions, but it often leaves those not inherently able to cope with it well with PTSD.
Also, if people were naturally evil, we wouldn't have created law enforcement to begin with.
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George Rockwell2021-12-28 04:07:45 (edited 2021-12-28 04:11:44 )
@Nuturi I never said people had no choice but to be evil. However, people created police departments and governments with strong powers of enforcement because they recognized the tendency for humans to be self-serving, greedy, and apathetic to the suffering of others, and that this tendency needed to be checked if we were to have any degree of stability and order in human affairs. Of course, those governments themselves also needed to be restricted and monitored in various ways, since they were also run by human beings, and human beings love to exploit their power whenever possible once they gain it. Also, murder is just one dramatic example of humanityās depravity, so I donāt know why you focus on it so much in your response. Most people would in fact be willing to commit murder, of course, if they didnāt have to face consequences for the act and felt it necessary for their own prosperity/survival, as evidenced by states like Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany where most ordinary citizens complied unquestioningly with the governmentās murderous programs. But also, see the Milgram experiment, a scientific example of the evil human beings will happily commit if lightly requested to by an authority figure.
genuinely makes me feel so gross. grown ass MAN acting like a sad uwu victim. heās so fragile and delicate, he could NEVER hurt a child!! š¢ š¢ let me play a song on the worldās smallest violin
@Paul i 100% agree!!! pessimism is EXHAUSTING. it prevents you from noticing the good in the world. and even if you do, you tend to write it off as the exception/selfish wishes. nature and nurture go a long way
Yeah i agree. Its weird, most people of this kind i've seen have come across as just psychos, but this guy is so self pitying and child-like its just very strange.
@Harry Best i agree; a lot of people seem to use this word incorrectly: indeed he didn't commit the crime to juxtapose it against cowardice behavior. This is merely a contrast.
@George Rockwell bro bad stories get coverage and good stories are hidden underneath. Thereās a lot of good acts that happen. Find them and list them out. Humanity is not one thing. It canāt be judged by its worst and best.
@George Rockwell dude your example of nazi Germany doesnāt hold up. There were numerous people who condemned the acts of the nazis even within the Wehrmacht. If you talk about the SS then youāre probably right. Also in the Experiment the subjects who shocked the people didnāt just pressed the buttons until reaching the highest voltage, they resisted and asked constantly questions. So clearly they did not do it because they liked it but because some guy with authority said so and promised nothing would happen to them.
@George Rockwell It's only certain types of people who act like that. For example, if there was some natural disaster in Denmark or Switzerland, you wouldn't expect to see a significant amount of looting or rioting would you?
@TangoAlphaRomeoDelta I donāt know what you mean by that. If youāre making some racial argument, shove off. Our upbringing, personality or background may influence our likelihood of acting on our evil desires, but those desires are still present in every single one of us. When you are angry with someone, or feel hatred for someone, you are murdering them in your heart, even if youāre too cowardly to carry out such an act. Human beings have a disturbing habit of twisting the truth and doing what we know to be wrong, because we want to glorify ourselves rather than serving others. Even when we serve others, we typically do it to boost our status or reputation. If you think youāre good, that proves you almost certainly arenāt.
@George Rockwell āmost people would be willing to commit murder if they didnāt have to face consequences for the act and felt it necessary for their own prosperity/survivalā yeah, if in a situation where youāre under attack and you need to save your life. But thatās not evil.
Humanity is not good. By God's grace most of us aren't monsters like these two. But a large number are. And the rest of us are evil to varying degrees. That's why Christ died on the cross... to rescue humanity from itself. This salvation will come by transforming us into something physically, tangibly, and spiritually better than we are.
Should of ended the interview with āoh and by the way, do you know what people do to people like you in prison?ā
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Tom Oakley2022-03-16 15:28:40 (edited 2022-03-16 15:28:56 )
As satisfying as that closing tirade was to watch, I gotta say, the low key most satisfying part was when Rafferty thought he was getting food, and instead they bring in his accomplice for a 3 on 1 pile-up.
It hurts my heart to know that we have to live in constant fear of predators like this; but that fact is made more bearable by the knowledge that men like these exist to protect us. Spectacular job by all involved.
I was hoping that the cameras would go out and then came back on with that turd past out in a pool of blood, and his sissy blanket tied tightly around his neck while the cop is just sitting there like nothing happened.
4:50 he is so meek and soft. This is the perfect example of the dangers that weak men pose. Weak men KNOW that theyāre weak and donāt want to feel that way so some of them find people weaker than them to dominate in order to soothe their damaged egos.
There definitely seems to be a significant role played by pornography as well. Our world has, apparently, vast enclaves of perverse types of pornography (itās all perverse but there is definitely a gradient) which is the ultimate destination of most people who consume pornography. Like any other addict, the need to escalate to more and more perverse forms of filth to achieve the desired effect.
I was just chuckling at how generic-looking and unhelpful the police composite sketch was when the photo of Mcclintic came on screen. She really does have a face that looks like an AI-generated picture.
I was just saying, "they're not going to find anybody that looks like that generic drawing" then her face pops up Lol. She's as non-descript as they come.
Catharsis? If heaven is real and it's peaceful why would an angel need to see this? It's like when ppl say ghosts haunt their killers. If these souls are at ultimate peace why would they need payback? It's weird that ppl believe in heaven but think angels need retribution.
17:30 - this is why the "whole innocent until proven guilty thing doesn't really work in reality... people assume the worst by nature." causing the "innocent until proven guilty" clause to be a moot point.
@Oscar Chavez Bwahahahahahaha! I, normally, sit back and watch the grammar police with disgust, (because it just seems so petty and ungainly, let's be honest!) but this thread actually - literally - made me laugh out loud. ššš
it's so clear that the murderer only cares about himself. he only pipes up when he can make a snide remark about his OWN situation. completely selfish. absolute filth.
What gets me the most was when he said he was afraid of losing his life when asked what his greatest fear was. Um, you just murdered an 8-year-old. The audacity.
Thatās how they are. Doesnāt care about the innocence he shattered or the life he took of the little girl only is concerned about what happens to him now
Both sentenced to life without the possibility of parole for 25 years? In the US, they would get life without the possibly of parole whatsoever at all, guaranteed to die in prison
i just cant wrap my head around the fact that there are really people that do this shit. how in the world do u end up like that? like wtf makes someone do this.. i just dont have a single idea
Will Empath I know itās scary when you think there are people out there, more people than youād like to imagine that have pretty much no conscience
zempath do you mean like good people being led astray to help murderous people and getting themselves into trouble? Only god knows why that woman helped in all of this. Drugs most likely. Some people that help murderers are co dependent and extremely vulnerable and persuadable. I think they become so frightened / Brain washed by their abuser fearing harm that they would do anything even if they knew it was wrong because they were bred to be controlled and abused all their lives as young people.
Sohaib Mahagri exactly or if your going to kill her atleast donāt torture her by raping her first, they can both go to hell god bless the young girls soul.
Sad thing is even after being taught stranger danger, children will still want to see a puppy, some won't, but some will. Heck if someone said there was a puppy around the corner I'd wanna see it. It's sad someone can and chooses to abuse the trust of a child.
It's a very common way to lure kids. I even know someone this happened to. Thankfully she was not killed by her abuser. They lure kids with the prospect of cute little pets all the time.
i definitely have some kind of psychopathy or lack of empathy. Like when my close love ones die i can accept it and move om disgustingly quick. Im aware of my "sickness" and it really bothers me. I think a lot of people are probably capable of some fucked up shit but this kind of stuff is just unthinkable even for folk like me
@Nevi People with no empathy are also great businessmen. Not all people devoid of empathy are killers. Probably because they pick up something in life that satisfies them before tasting murder.
Tome4kkkk totally agree. Look at the financial crash of 2008. Those bankers stole everything from the poorest in society. I think one of them got away with 500 million even though he admitted he stole and robbed people and he escaped prison somehow. I canāt remember his name but the documentary is on Amazon and some German guy was one of only two people to be imprisoned cause the blame was all stacked onto him.
ā@Nevi This kind of recession has literally led to loss of lives and irrecoverable destruction of countless lives. Think about it. Like I said - those people don't murder only because "it's not their thing" as they get stronger hardon from power and channeling money. Your friend capitalist cultist calls it "working smart, not hard." Or they don't like guns, or mess etc. But that's it.
Tome4kkkk yep I agree with everything youāve said there. Itās not their thing to kill but they still lack the same as what a killer also lacks but use it in different areas. š
@Chipperson's Encyclopedia Emporium Well, lack of empathy doesn't automatically imply lack of morals. Probably like the interrogator said the guy watched hours and hours of child pornography until the fantasy wasn't enough for him anymore. We become what we do so steer yourself in the right direction and don't tempt yourself down dangerous paths.
@NLTops that's true! I appreciate that. Most people arent very sympathetic or even understanding. Like... I didn't do this to myself, ya know? I wasnt just one day like, ya know what?, i wish i had the emotional commitnment of General Palpatine. š i guess i was born this way. It fucked me up the day i realized it and like a true narcissist the first real emotional cry i had was for myself and my own struggles. Maybe youve saved me life. Ive never considered murder or anything sinister [hence my original comment] but ive decided to stop watching so much of these types of videos. I don't watch child porn ffs but like you said youve got to stay off dangerous paths and it would be fucking bonkers if in 20 years im sitting in an interigation room "Chipperson, i know you're not a monster. You watched to many crime videos! You became obsessed and you made a mistake" fuck that would be horrific
@Chipperson's Encyclopedia Emporium Don't feel bad about crying for your own sake. Most people have their first emotional cry over their own despair or grief. My first cry was out of loneliness because I never quite fit in as a young child.
Ironically, the cause for that is that I have the exact opposite emotional type as you. I'm hyper-empathic. As a kid it resulted in me often poking through other kids faƧade because I could just feel so clearly how they really felt. But people don't like it when you don't play along with their act so it resulted in people avoiding me and even being very mean to me.
It can also get really exhausting to be confronted with other people's negative emotions so intensely all the time, so I really like my alone time. And because of it, I also appreciate hanging out with people with "low emotional output". Which is how I know that sociopaths/apaths can be really good people. Their morality is based on logic rather than emotion but it still has very clear intent.
I'm glad my small piece of wisdom (to not tempt fate going down dangerous roads even a little) has added to your perspective. I hope you have a long fulfilling life, and don't forget that however we categorize ourselves, every one of us has a complex multi-faceted personality. It's just that we tend to solidify our Ego (sense of self) rather than accepting we are dynamic. I'm not as empathic as I was as a kid. I had to strengthen and protect myself to some degree because I would be dead by now if I hadn't. But I didn't lose my empathy either. Because it's a part of me I didn't want to give up.
And this is really unsolicited information but in case you wish to explore empathy further... empathy comes from mirror neurons (neurons that fire when we detect a specific emotion in others and which connect to the neurons in control of our own emotions), but science isn't clear on how these emerge/are formed. It may be possible to become more empathic (just like I became less empathic) by understanding the essense of empathy and practicing its application. And the logical algorithm of empathy isn't so complex or mystical that it can't be understood. Whatever you choose to do, I wish you good luck.
I hate that these child offenders donāt have the decency to just be evil. They always have to be crying, sniffling cowards that just deny and deny. Itās actually frustrating.
that's a common theme in these videos. people that are genuinely complete sociopaths will always maintain their innocence, even with the detectives hit them with the "we have more evidence than we could possibly need to convict you, no use denying it, i just want you to say why you did it" because in the guilty-until-proven-innocent system it is logically the right move for the sociopath to make. even if there is a 0.00000000000001% chance that the ludicrous "but i really didn't do it" ploy would ever work, they get more out of it than a normal person would get because they're not weighing this choice against the cost of the remorse they would feel (case in point: casey anthony proves that this strategy actually works)
Agreed, confessing should be done after you have discussed with your lawyer and they handle how itās arranged and make sure you donāt get for example first decree murder charges if you have committed second decree murder.
But we donāt get the people sensible enough to request lawyers right away in this channel or we would have nothing to watch.
@QuasiELVIS but every decent human being would confess like the woman did because thatās what they deserve and she knows it. It may be dumb but I think it depends on the charge
@Olive Pedraza Iāve read this about 10 times but I still donāt understand, Iām sorry, could you please explain simply? I really want to understand this but canāt and idk why
Most cases of this kind of abuse are caused by a multigenerational history of such. Sometimes the offenders were victims themselves, and the one before them, and the one before them. That's basically why, because at some point, or even several, they felt helpless in their own lives, and their own twisted way of getting that out of their system, was to prey on those with less power than themselves. Granted that doesn't excuse it, but it's important to understand in order to stop these chains from continuing.
@InSaynt That is true but there are still people who get abused or molested as kids who never go on to do that to others. It just upsets me that anyone could do any of this to a child.
I always think of the Iceman, the notorious hit man for the mob; there was no pretense with that guy. You knew when you looked in his eyes that he was a monster and he knew you knew it, too.
These people exert their power on children, it's easy to see why they would act like cowards in front of policemen. Serial killers that murder adults tend to be more composed or just mad and careless.
I agree, I think they've gone some way to convince themselves they are somehow genuinely innocent, and therefore won't ever feel the hell they should rightly feel with the weight of responsibility behind it.
@InSaynt at least one guy in this comment section gets it , this whole channel is pretty much making the criminals seem like pieces of shit , giving reasons for why they are pieces of shit , but never even take in to consideration that maybe the guys a piece of shit because some major influence on his life was a piece of shit , its a massive cycle.
@Vlad its because the guy in this video hasn't come to peace with what he's done , probably has a traumatic childhood and its all rushing in to his mind while he sits in that chair across from the detective , serial killers have come to peace with what they've done , any murder they commit is habitual and theres always a deep seeded reason for why they do it which in their mind justifies it , their deep seeded reason or belief becomes so strong in their mind it becomes a reality , for example you might kill someone because you wanna eat them , you wont get satisfaction from it because its normal, but the reason why you might do it is because you like to act like a primal backwards animal , or you believe society should be more like that
Social workers get part of the blame. They tell criminals that they have a "disease" and that they are not to blame. It creates monsters, but the monsters give the useless social workers job security at the general public's tragic cost.
@pyramidofbones Yes there is a higher chance of them developing serious issues in the future with out counseling/therapy but that is not always the case. Doesn't mean someone who was abused as a child should not get proper therapy/counseling. But just because someone was abused doesn't mean they will grow up to be a monster.
@pyramidofbones That's true. I guess it just bothers me because I know people who went through it and they are great people and parents. The one person says it no excuse for them to put kids through the same torment they experienced.
@pyramidofbones Yeah I agree that any child who goes through it should be provided the most care and counciling to help them. Doesn't work for everyone but it helps. Overall it just something that is terrible that no child should ever half to expirence.
Oh, they're evil alright. It's just that, as with all predators, they are cowards at heart who prey on the weak only. You can bet that he wouldn't have the balls to ever take a swing at a strong man directly. He would have gotten his head unscrewed and replaced facing backwards.
@CeresTV There's only so much responsibility that you can have over yourself till you lose control, psychos aren't born, they're made ; weak minded people who are influenced to a point where they work on their own , they adopt the same nature and personality of said major influence
@CeresTV i've made this case on another video on this channel where i said that not every medical case is the same , theres research that psychos are born on the contrary theres research that psychos are made, but every person is different, every psycho is different, just because you've done a little research on criminal profiling or psychoanalysis or whatever it might be , doesnt make you right
'evil' is best defined as intentionally acting in a way that is detrimental to wellbeing. I honestly don't think that 'evil' people exist, specifically because almost nobody acts with the intent to cause harm, including this guy. If this guy had gotten help, this crime may never have happened. That's the crux of the whole thing - these people fear the repercussions of being forthright about these feelings and so they don't get the help they need. This woman who abducted the girl could have stopped all of this, which is utterly tragic. She could have helped him pursue counseling, or even castration if that's what it would take to prevent this.
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Johnny Atkison2021-06-22 01:42:31 (edited 2021-06-22 01:42:57 )
@Steven Boelke he definitely acted with the intent to cause harm. He raped and murdered an 8 years old girl. Thatās detrimental to him and everybody else. Thatās Evil by your definition.
@Kelz _ bullshit! This man is pure evil. I don't really care what his past is. Someone else's crimes don't excuse his. Like someone else in this thread said, lots of people have traumatic childhoods, but at some point you have up take responsibility for your actions. I'm one of those people. I had a horrific childhood. I'm not raping out killing anyone, ever. I'm so tired of this "I'm a victim" society. I mean, honestly... by your estimation, we should be happy he killed the little girl because now she won't grow up to rape and kill some other child. I guess this particular cycle will end with Mikey here.
@NiL so youre telling me the vikings when they chopped someones head off (if they did at all) that it wasnt evil? shit i thought we've evolved as humans
@Blooper Dooper In the USA in particular, inmates who have hurt children are often assaulted or killed when in general population. For this reason these prisoners in Britain (& much of Northern Europe) are kept on their own, separate wing of the prison, away from other inmates, to keep them safe.
Iām against the death penalty but when I hear cases like this I often wish these monsters were kept in general population with violent criminals.
@Suzi Monkey After the murder of Becky Watts occurred in the UK, her killer Nathan Matthews had boiling water mixed with sugar thrown in his face by other prisoners and also lost an eye. His partner in crime Shauna Hoare was also beaten to within an inch of her life by her fellow female inmates. I don't want to sound nasty but just typing this out makes me feel a bit better about what they did to her - what comes around goes around...
Your point of view is clearly made by somebody who has not been in a position where theyāve been threatened by a gun, had their house broken into, been in a car accident caused by a drunk driver or any number of criminal acts. The people in prison are all criminals and child predators are the same as any other criminals. They are all criminals and deserve to be in prison. The idea that child predators are worse than any other criminal is ridiculous. Victims of crime are victims of crime no matter what their age. The fact that you think one criminal is better than another is ludicrous.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind youāre completely wrong. There is definitely a hierarchy of crime/criminals, with elements of mitigating circumstances etc. Genocide, child rape/murder, spree killings, torture, things of that nature are far worse than vehicular manslaughter, or vandalism, or credit card/check fraud. This Michael guy being interviewed is a monster, and my friend who went to jail for 6 weeks for drinking and driving is not on the same level as someone that has done something this horrific or even worse.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind As someone who has ābeen threatened by a gun, had their house broken into, been in a car accident caused by a drunk driverā, I wholeheartedly agree with the original comment, along with probably 99.9% of humanity. Whether they have or not, I donāt how you came to the assumption that the person who posted the original comment is not a victim of one of these crimes. Either way, these crimes are irrelevant to the matter. āVictims of crime are victims of crime no matter what their age.ā, saying this reveals your lack of empathy. You talk as if misdemeanors are equal to raping and/or murdering a child. Do you not have a heart? Do you not value the life of an innocent child? Clearly youāve already answered both of these questions.
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jim watson2022-01-16 00:41:38 (edited 2022-01-16 00:44:03 )
@Sounds of a Silent Mind in what Kind of world are you living that a thief and a rapist are the same criminal. Like some guy above me said there is clearly a hierarchy to crimes in general and itās Good that way. Btw. all of the things you said happened to me and I still donāt think like you.
ā@jim watson Well, for a start I live in a civilised country called Australia which, thankfully is unlike uncivilised North America. Secondly, Iām talking about victims of crime not the criminals themselves. All crimes are committed by people who are now called criminals. All victims of crimes are victims and how they feel after a crime is not hierarchical. Thatās good for you that you donāt feel crap after being victimised by a car accident, being robbed, or any number of crimes, but that doesnāt mean that other people donāt feel like killing themselves after an act of crime has been committed on them. The only reason there are hierarchies in prison is because the criminals are trying to justify to themselves that their crime is lesser and their victim suffered less. The fact that people actually agree with the thought process of criminals is worrying.
@Kyle Smith Iāll just repost what I wrote to someone else because itās too difficult on a forum like this to argue with such a complex problem and clearly from different countries.
Well, for a start I live in a civilised country called Australia which, thankfully is unlike uncivilised North America. Secondly, Iām talking about victims of crime not the criminals themselves. All crimes are committed by people who are now called criminals. All victims of crimes are victims and how they feel after a crime is not hierarchical. Thatās good for you that you donāt feel crap after being victimised by a car accident, being robbed, or any number of crimes, but that doesnāt mean that other people donāt feel like killing themselves after an act of crime has been committed on them. The only reason there are hierarchies in prison is because the criminals are trying to justify to themselves that their crime is lesser and their victim suffered less. The fact that people actually agree with the thought process of criminals is worrying
@Derek Bertrand iāve already posted a few answers to people so I wonāt repeat myself fully. The only reason criminals think they have a hierarchy in prison is because they like to justify to themselves that their crime wasnāt as bad as the next criminal. And/or that their victim wasnāt āhurtā as badly. Itās the only way they can survive in prisons, justify any attempt at parol, and live with any guilt they may have within themselves.
@Derek Bertrand You really think our in comparison uneducated minds (she was educated in Australia remember) can compete with her obvious powers of pure functional logic and cognition? Of course not! She's an obvious genius compared to my 'basic' thoughts concerning any form of logical complexity. Oh well,back to the books and study I go in hope of retaining such lofty heights of intellect...
@Sounds of a Silent Mind Just to add that, as an European, I first thought you were an American. Your comment sounds like something a Trump supporter who has no understanding of human psychology would say
@Bart Simpson you clearly donāt know how to read. I did not contradict myself. When you are able to pass a 6th grade reading test, come back and reread, and then you can say you were wrong.
@Artistry Artistry I apologise for my curt response,it wasn't meant to offend or make fun of anyone's faith. I wanted to private message you this reply through your channel but found I was unable to. I struggle with religion as a whole as there are so many and everyone's God is somehow the correct one so I struggle to see religion as anything other than another form of control. Any God who should be feared or who would punish someone for not believing just doesn't sit right with me. The idea of heaven is exactly the sort of comforting belief that a self aware intelligent life form would come up with. I work with applied physics and finite mathematics as a mechanical engineer so I naturally struggle with any form of blind faith that can't be proven. Anyway,I hope I'm wrong. Peace be with you always.
the first thing inmates do when a new guy comes in to the cell block is check what they are charged with. if its anything sexual then they will make his life a hell, trust me i have been in jail with sex offenders. the inmates who serve food wont even give his food. eventually he will ask to be put in protective custody. but if the officers are cool they will make him stay in general pop for a few more days.
@Jameson G.A. mostly. People in prison (for crimes they committed) are usually not crazy or anything, but some are chronic liars or manipulate people in some way. Yes, they are ānormalā just an exaggerated version of our worst traits.
@Suzi Monkey the death penalty, when employed correctly, is a greatly essential tool. Being completely against this penalty is being instrument to the unimaginable crimes that it should be reserved for. True premeditated murder, rape, breaking and entering into a house with occupants (believe it or not should be included).
Relating to the dumpster fire of comments under OPās; I go to college in the USA for a criminal justice degree. In my intro to criminal law class, we were taught that the law in and of itself MUST be discriminatory. Not by race or gender, of course, but by severity of crime and circumstances surrounding it. If I donāt pay my rent and ghost my landlord, Iām still a criminal, but I certainly will not receive life in prison or be put to death like someone charged of first degree murder may be. In a similar instance, if I crash my car in the winter because I slid on ice and hit someone else, I will likely have to pay retribution and damage costs. But, if I were to have purposely driven into them with the intent to harm or kill, I would receive a much harsher sentence. Or, take smoking weed VS selling it in a state where itās not legal. The law MUST be discriminatory because there IS a hierarchy of crime. Itās a very āblack and whiteā viewpoint to say all criminals are the same.
In some countries they castrate them and throw them to other predators who aren't and let them pay back and go trough the same thing as what they did , I bet they've been taken tender care in the prison
He didn't just harm a child. He tortured her simply because he was bigger than her. From her POV, it must've felt like a Goosebumps horror book she read coming to life. He didn't just molest. He had violent intercourse. He didn't just kill. He beat her to death with blunt objects. Think about that. The physical act of killing wasn't sexual for him. In his mind, it had to be done to avoid capture but he planned the whole thing. If your mom told you that you had to kill a chicken so she could cook dinner, are you going to proceed beat the chicken to death with a hammer? Wouldn't you choke it out or just cut its throat in one go? Every aspect of this was done in the cruelest possible way.
@Reuven Roslyn, Esq Agreed with every inch of my judgment. As a 5'9 middle schooler it's quite feeling unapproachable but God gracious it must be horrifying experiencing something like that with such a size comparison, the helplessness the pure paralysis
ā@eman elghanam You probably should not be watching this as a middle schooler, and there probably should have been a more intense disclaimer. If it's any reassurance, the odds of you ever interacting with someone this crazy in your life are extremely low. Like millionths and millionths of a percent kind of low.
@Reuven Roslyn, Esq I see your point, but quite frankly I'm trying to get into psychology as much as I can so I can sort of prepare for uni, plus I consider myself near impossible to disturb for some reason, so I'm alright, thank you for your concern though
@Reuven Roslyn, Esq As to the second point, a young adult was just murdered a street away from me (she practiced fastball in the same sports club I did) so I DO have a sharp object on me at all times, I've gotta prep myself more then YE AVERAGE CHILLLD
@eman elghanam nothing is wrong with being a nationalist, at least not to a reasonable extent.. anti nationalist are just as bad as ultra nationalist, just in different ways.
@Jameson G.A. I'm awfully sorry for the misuse of the term, I meant the "My country is flawless, everyone else SUCKS" Mentality, no offense to normal nationalists
@Sounds of a Silent Mind I think someone who drunk drove and killed someone is a little less of a criminal than someone who raped and murdered an 8 year old.
@Suzi Monkey Here in the US, the prison guards usually do that on purpose and when the assault/murder of the inmate is happening they ignore it. Itās their version of justice.
More. Even though it can be over emphasized by the fact that a more extreme hatred towards them helps survival a bit by fitting in more which is never a bad thing in such a setting, leaving that out of the equation you have to live with them and being around it truly adds more disgust by watching how victimized they feel they are, as if the real victim is to blame for them being in prison, adding more wanton disregard to the extent of the vigilante justice they suffer. Either way, its assured that the hatred and extreme reaction to these awful people society sets limits on because acting the way we want to isn't allowed, behind prison walls they don't care and do for us what we can't to those scum bags. So rest assured, you may not see it but what you wish would happen to them happens. Helps me sleep a little better at night :)
And yeah, they are regular people too. Just got caught doing shit you haven't. From driving without a license once to driving at legal alcohol limit once to being completely innocent. Very few prisoners per Capita are there for violent crimes or ones with a victim(s).
@Suzi Monkey unfortunately in the US if we do anything to these monsters it is considered a hate crime and you get added time. But if you're in for Life who cares what other additional time you get added on.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind I'm the person with the original comment. You made a lot of assumptions about me, which is one of the biggest problems in proving a point, in my opinion. And no, I did not vote for trump. I'm Dutch, so i can't.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind And one more thing, aren't girls who go to school in "Civilised Australia" forced to wear a uniform to school and not allowed to put on pants? And isn't there still Gender inequality until this day?
@Jameson G.A. you're absolutely right! I can see how i implied that i think that people inside prison are not regular people. Not my intention. But i did type it.... Maybe I phrased it thay way because English is not my first language, which isn't an excuse. My sincere thanks for this reflection of my unconscious behaviour of seeing people in prison not as regular people, and giving me a chance for personal growth. :)
@DoctorShotHer You are right, sir (or ma'm, or whatever you feel comfortable with), I know the way that was phrased is not the way I should have, regret is being felt at this moment. Thank you for questioning my opinion, it makes both of us better people. :))
SOME people in prison. A lot of people in prison are psychopaths, and don't necessarily hate child predators because of them being child predators, they just hate them because they need someone to harass.
For your information health care in the US is free now since Obamacare. There are small charges but it's mostly free now. As far as the uneducated Americans who made the internet that your on, who sell you our nuclear sub technology, who have fought side by side with the Australians at Normandy on D-Day. I think perhaps a bit more respect for your allies. And I di
@Derek Bertrand Actually laughed out loud. Glad you made a joke out of this idiot, who is a joke. For some reason I just feel angry at it. I say it because humans know the truth of this matter instantly.
You should give the most evil people the same grace God has given us all; youāre calling good evil We alll have this same ādisgust ā in the eyes of God GOD HAS VERY HIGH STANDARDS; he says if we hate anyone we are guilty of murder; Point is we all need the grace of God; & Jesus paid for this ā disgust ā
Romans 3:23-25 English Standard Version 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.
Another example of the Holiness of God he says that if we have so much look at another with lust we have committed adultery The point Iām trying to convey is yes this act that the suspect is accused of is horrible and evil; but we all are horrible and evil in the holly eyes of God; which is why we all. Need the grace of God& the atoning blood of Jesus; & as the prisoners who try to get revenge for crimes like this theyāre just as guilty as this accused man; we all be judged by God by the same standards that we judge.
Isaiah 5:20 New Century Version 20 How terrible it will be for people who call good things bad and bad things good, who think darkness is light and light is darkness, who think sour is sweet and sweet is sour.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind that sounds exactly like someone who has never beeen in prison. Although the public would see everyone on the inside as criminals. Your going to tell me im the same for being a drug addict and a thief as this peice of shit. Ive stolen things in my life, money, lots of shoplifting, B n E's into cars. All for the promise of money to get more dope. But even with all that I never hurt i child. Id never let anyone hurt a child. Just cause were all criminals doesnt mean were the same not even close
@Sounds of a Silent Mind to rob someone at gunpoint you have to be in either a serious situation or have had a shitty upbringing, child predation is absolutely deplorable, no comparison whatsoever
@Sounds of a Silent Mind I'm happy you have several free degrees. I would think in all that learning you would not be someone who has a general opinion of certain populations. Ps, if you plan to kidnap and rape and kill a child, you get the death penalty. What is the confusing part?
@Kjeld Versleijen ah dankjewel. Ik heb elke comment gelezen tot deze reactie in de hoop dat je uiteindelijk "yeah well..I am Dutch" zou zeggen. Volgens mij geldt jouw statement overigens vrijwel wereldwijd.
@ContritePenguin exactly. Iāve been to prison. Most people donāt harass the sex offenders out of any outstanding morality, but just rather that theyāre on the bottom of the totem pole. Hell none of those guys in there pay child support or are fathers to their kids in any positive way lol. But they do have a rough time lol
@John Goldsworthy yeah, because prisons are full of murderers and rapist, right? Less than 15% of inmates in the US are in for rape or murderā¦ my comment was obviously in regards to the other 85% of inmates who are ānormal peopleā. This is why you should take the time to understand topics you feel the need to comment on rather than doing so based on assumptions.
@John Goldsworthy oh, wow.. did you not read the part where I made it clear I was referring to the large majority, the 85% who are normal people? When making a general reference people donāt usually base it on the minority 15%, like you did.. You literally insinuated that all people in prison are murderers and rapists and therefore, there are no normal people in prison. Now youāre saying that me pointing out how only 15% of inmates are murderers and rapists somehow helps prove that point. Yes, all of your logic hurts, trust meā¦
@Sounds of a Silent Mind hi, im from England. Youāre wrong. Donāt suggest being non-American makes you better than other people, your wax wings are already melting
@Sounds of a Silent Mind so you believe someone who is in jail for possession of drugs is the same as this guy? That they deserve to be in a cell because they chose to consume drugs society deems not right? What if they made alcohol a controlled substance? Would you deserve to sit in a cell for wanting a drink?
More so than "regular people". Convicts actually punish these people, while "normal people" just sit around shaking their heads, saying things like 'this guy is a piece of shit' etc.
People who steal or who like do gang stuff etc wouldn't dream of doing anything to children. Their problems are with adult people over particular situations and things.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind What's wrong with you? Not all crimes are equal. Getting stolen is the same as getting a child raped and killed? Really, what's the matter with you?
@Polly Hepburn Your comment sounds like something a liberal would say who has no understanding of human psychology. I can say the same about you lmao. Iām a trump supporter and i study psychology, so what does that say about me? Absolutely nothing. It says a lot more about your judgmental character and your black and white views on the world
@Agent7 Agent7 I can tell youāve never been to prison. And i can also tell youāve never heard stories about what people in prisons do to child molesters. I can almost guarantee you no one in prison is treated good
@WhoKnowsyour mistake is you are assuming alot and you are off on your comment, I am very familiar what's going on in the prison, read carefully my comment and understand what I wrote
@Sounds of a Silent Mind you know as someone who was raped 13 years ago at the age of 9, I find your opinion on this matter to be completely wrong. I know people who have been to prison for dumb shit like selling weed before it was legal here in Canada, or drunk driving because they had an addiction that took them years while in prison to overcome. I donāt see these people all as the same level of criminality. Those who sold weed and went to prison for it are criminals because they sold it before it was legal here. They didnāt hurt anyone so how are they the same as this waste of air we call mike? This guy I know whoās name I wonāt say, killed someone while driving drunk it was an accident he never meant to kill someone but his pain led him to alcoholism that led him to drive drunk and kill someone. He spent several years in prison where he cleaned himself up and nowās heās a great guy who I talk to all the time on my breaks at work, how is he on the same level as this pathetic excuse of a man? This man kidnapped a little girl then proceeded to rape her doing god knows what to her before bashing in her head with a hammer. This man, this man is evil and is of the worst TYPE of criminal out there. Thereās a reason different crimes give different sentences because no crime is equal, no person whoās been labeled a criminal is equal. They all did something different, sometimes Similar but different nonetheless. You should really take a minute to think about the stupid shit you said and re-evaluate your opinions on this, because Iām sorry, but youāre dead wrong
@Red Diver I can't relate at all because I was raised an atheist and idenfity as agnostic. If i want to judge the guy, I will, whichever god has nothing to do with my decision
@Sounds of a Silent Mind The fact that you think a child predator is equal to a drunk driver is absolutely disgusting and you should be ashamed. I can't imagine the amount of mental gymnastics you had to go through in order to make that comment. Gross.
@Suzi Monkey in Russia the guards will put those kinds of monsters in a cell with a few principled inmates and accidentally whisper a word or two to them about the crime their new cell mate was accused of.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind being from Australia, one would think you'd be all about believing in reform considering the fact that Australia was started as a prison colony.
A lot of prisoners have kids themselves and since they are not capable in the moment to protect their own, they have no problem delivering justice to those within their facilities.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind in a logical sense, you are correct. The difference is how prisoners relate subjectively to the crime. Since many prisoners have children, there is an overwhelming feeling of disgust towards those that violate children. The psychology of each individual prisonerās actions will prevail from their emotions and usually not contain much logical thought. But, like I said, you are right about each crime that has victims and there is no logical difference in those cases.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind you think someone stealing is just as bad as killing someone because they're both a criminal?š Nah I think you're just crazy.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind Why you acting like Australia is innocent. Y'all have had mass shootings. Not to mention how you were involved with Hitler and that whole thing. Every country has it's downside.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind your right but raping a female, is a NO/NO is prison no matter what race you are. yeah criminals are criminals no matter what bt child predetors are in a class of themselves and they deserve every punishment they get in jail
The detective's speech at the end just floored me. "Eight years old, Mike.... That's pure evil, bud.... That's what you are. No remorse. No empathy. No nothing. You're just hollow.... So it's nice meeting you Mikey. Enjoy the rest of your life. This is the kind of room you're going to be spending it in." I know this added nothing to the investigation, but holy crap it was powerful.
I know that the detective did all he could to make mike suffer with his words, but thatās just too little for what he did, heās gonna live his life sheltered, with food and water, without worrying of being punished by other inmates. I miss the days where ppl like him were tossed inside the cell with regular inmates
i would think it's the result of all those hours holding back because he needed to maintain the detective persona and apply the method to the interrogation. Once his job is done he finally speaks his mind. Just my thoughts
@Chakra_SSE you are wierdo if you want to kill a guy that raped and killed 8 year old girl in cold blood no remorse whatsoever, crying only because he got caught otherwise he was just like "yolo"
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@Chakra_SSE i genuinely donāt get why youāre even trying to demonize people so much, itās normal to want someone to be punished and itās obvious people will think the punishment doesnāt fit the crime. Jails generally donāt really rehabilitate people who commit these crimes and in some countries people who commit less severe crimes go through worse things than this guy. just delete all your replies and pretend you didnāt say anything, i can assure you your unnecessary pseudomoralistic comments arenāt changing anyoneās minds.
@Chakra_SSE Sympathize? No! Understand the psychological pathology of a predator yes! Get therapy people! I was molested & cannot imagine committing such a crime! No way can I destroy an innocent life! No more excuses! Children's lives are at stake!
@Skye- The Conspiracy Realist! Did I say they shouldn't be locked up forever? No. I said you shouldn't go onto a random YouTube comment and talk about how you hope that they get their shit beaten out of them.
@Chakra_SSE I can tell you now, if this was my 8 year old daughter or sister. He wouldnāt have even made it to the police station. Iāll leave what I just said to your imagination. Period, I meant what I said. Iām the nicest guy youāll ever meet, but if you abuse children, I aināt for one second going to show you any kindness nor am I going to spare you or give you to the police. Theyāre mine to deal with.
@Chakra_SSE Youāre right. All Iām saying is, if my kid or my sister is sexually assaulted and murdered, the police will be the least of the guys worries. In fact, the police will have to lock him up in protective custody for his own safety. I know Iāll go to prison, Iām prepared, itāll be tough but letās be honest, whoās going to be angry at a guy killing a pedophile(apart from a pedophile themselves obviously) I also wanna say, I donāt encourage violence, donāt do what I do, I swore an oath to my sister and family that Iāll do whatever it takes to secure the safety of my sister, itās a blood debt. But yeah youāre correct, some people will have to show restraint and compose themselves, especially if theyāre in a professional capacity, such as a police officer. All Iām saying is, nobody is going to miss or cry over a pedophile.
@Chakra_SSE What I meant by that was, if I was in prison for killing a pedophile another pedophile in a protected wing would see me as a threat because Iām in prison for killing a pedophile, if you get what I mean haha! Oh trust me I donāt dislike people that would prefer a cold hard cell for their abuser as opposed to instant execution, but with me and my thought process, all I know is, a dead pedophile cannot reoffend, no other child is going to go through the same trauma if that pedophile is dead, I know some would disagree with me, especially from a lawful point of view, but a pedophile doesnāt think of the law during the act of ruining a childās life, so why should I? Thatās my take on it anyway.
@Lucignolo Yeah that makes it so hard to swallow. Yeah he received life imprisonment but it doesn't even come remotely close to the level of punishment he deserves. What he did is probably the worst thing i've ever heard of and its made me physically sick.
@Roy M I want you to look at the date when my first comment was posted, then ask yourself if it seems like I care to continue this debate when people cannot be civil?
You have to think of these people as sick and addicted as well- i know that people like this are terrible it makes me physically sick- they are sick though- their minds arenāt okay and so i believe that there should be therapy for those who want to change and feel bad for the things they did- but for those who are pure evil i think yeah they canāt change until they want to change and see the wrong in their actions
@Chakra_SSE Well said. Part of the challenge of this disgusting shit is that it makes us think a bit about how to stay -- or work on becoming -- civilized ourselves.
@AljoŔa P Get a grip on yourself. Take a minute to think about how you have failed to understand what @Chakra__SSE posted. I think you're trying to give yourself the cheap thrill of being holier-than-thou at him. In going for the cheap shot, you only show yourself either lazy or not very bright or both.
@AljoŔa P Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for being so superior to @Chakra_SSE ! You're a real danger to yourself. The good news is, when you come back in a year or so and understand what you have both written here, you have the option of erasing your sad little trail of your own self-love.
@KarenDied K.R Anonymous sneer-poster, you're simply showing off your own inability to think. Chakra nowhere defends killing a baby girl. You made that up. You're just imagining stuff for the superior thrill it gives you of thinking yourself warm, angry, and somehow good.
@Darynn Vinson Fair enough. But then once your magic, new, at present nonexistent, therapy works its wonder, let the guy try to pay the rent on his cell by maybe stamping license plates for the rest of his life.
@Urban Cow what's with these weirdos who wanna kill pedophiles?? Do not harm these people, protect them at all cost!! Put them inside a bullet proof fire proof glass bubbleā¤ & thrice daily give them gifts such as fine Godiva chocolates, roses, various Thank You cards & always make certain the air-conditioning is at a temperature they enjoy.
you ARE correct, pedophiles shouldn't be harmed or killed nonono they should be coddled & given a hug & a teddy bear & a hot cup of coco & a pat on their back & a free Applebee's gift card. We must do all we can to protect these innocent angels my friend..
@Claudia Solomon youre missing the point, its psychotic to think we should just torture and murder these people because after all they are people. Thats not to take away from the severity of their crimes but everyone has basic human rights and they should be rehabilitated to the best of our ability, because ultimately these people are going to be released back into the public and if they arent rehabilitated then we have a problem on our hands. No where do any of us say to coddle them or make them comfortable, but they should be afforded the same basic rights as you or me.
@Claudia Solomon Your comment implies we should be doing all we can for the opposite of what you just said. Perhaps instead if people ignorantly ignoring my point, they should actually read it and not jump to silly conclusions?
Lol 1st of all the detective isnāt the judge or jury? Have you ever heard about the u.s. constitution it affords everyone the right to due process and innocent until proven guilty; itās easy to condemn someone of charges when itās not you or someone you care about; wonder how you react if the shoe was on the other foot
@Lucignolo at this point heās only accused of the murder we have to remember the detectives are not the judge or jury They only have the word of his girlfriend none of the hard evidence has been analyzed at this point evidence as in dna of even an autopsy report
@Skye- The Conspiracy Realist! lol oh you think itās noble for. A criminal to be harmed by other criminals do you? What has ever been gained by repaying evil with evil?
@Skye- The Conspiracy Realist! you put praying hands at the end of your comment you should know this We have the laws in place to hold the guilty accountable
Isaiah 5:20 New Century Version 20 How terrible it will be for people who call good things bad and bad things good, who think darkness is light and light is darkness, who think sour is sweet and sweet is sour.
Romans 12:19 New Century Version 19 My friends, do not try to punish others when they wrong you, but wait for God to punish them with his anger. It is written: āI will punish those who do wrong; I will repay them,ā[a] says the Lord.
Very unprofessional, however understandable considering the case. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve these words, but they shouldn't come from someone working in a *forensic psychiatry police untit*.
It's really interesting to hear this from detectives, and especially from seasoned experts like the one featured here. It's like they really did try their hardest to make things as easy as possible for the suspect, an olive branch of epic porportions. But when that's refused they have no choice to truly look at the suspect for the monster they are. After all, they beg and plead with them for the truth for hours on end, appealing to their humanity and sense of right the entire time. It must be really frustrating to do that same process for as long as some of these detectives have.
@Darynn Vinson I would agree that therapy for people who have theese thoughts is a good thing, because it is a kind of addiction/compulsion but I would think the people who deserve a chance are the one's who seek help before actually committing the physical act of abuse and murder of a kid. Looking at pictures, even having thoughts like this is shocking enough! Any person would realise this and seek help BEFORE they commit the act.
Just read through the whole argument, first of all @Cjakra_SSE you keep telling people to ignore your comments if it bothers them, why couldn't you ignore the comments that bothered you? Its kinda funny, you are telling people to do the exact thing you failed to do. Second of all, things like wanting harm on others that have done terrible things is a normal human response, its our sense of justice. One of the reasons why people have a strong sense of justice is that they have personally been treated unfair. Because they know what it feels like to be treated unfairly. They want to bring justice so that people can be treated with impartiality. Justice is a natural virtue. Well- functioning humans are just, as are well-ordered human societies. Roughly, this means that in a well-ordered society, just humans internalize the laws and social norms; they internalize lawfulness as a disposition that guides the way they relate to other humans. You are simply judging people without the full extent of knowing who/what they are. Truthfully it is what im doing as well- sorry if this is bad, its my fourth year of taking english (9th grade) but I dont really pay much attention in class
@Chakra_SSE Why shouldn't they? It's absolutely normal to feel those feelings towards a monster like this. People should be able to express that anger. I feel like you shouldn't go into random comment sections calling people weirdos for having normal emotions.
I hope that interrogator has a loving family to go home to. He has to wade thru horror to find justice and closure for the victims and family. The guy is a hero in my book.
I literally can't imagine how much self control it takes to sit across this demon and listen these horrors he did to this child and fight the urge just to beat him into a bloody pulp and then some more
Itās really sad. Sometimes this type of work can change peopleās personality dramatically. My brother has worked in juvenile court dealing with child sex offenders and he has changed a lot. He has become another person. He is very withdrawn, serious and over protective of his kids but in a very exaggerated manner. It makes me very sad because we used to be close. Please pray for all the workers in the justice field and their families. This is a really hard job.
God Allows UTurns My close friend was the boss of the homicide lab in our county. The things she had to wade through and the bodies she had to pick evidence from would have sent me to the asylum. She didnāt broadcast all the gore or talk about it to make drama. But once in awhile itād come up.
Her husband told me she was only shaken one time. She got home from work, went to their sonās room and brought a little dinosaur t-shirt to her husband. She said, āI never want to see this on my son again.ā
As you may have guessed, she spent the day picking evidence from a 6 year old who was murdered by his dad. That would be it for me.
This is the important part for anyone in that field. One day I told my friend that Iād be consumed with questions of how could they, why would they. Her answer will never leave me:
āI donāt worry about why they did it. I just focus on getting enough evidence so that they can NEVER do that to anyone again.ā
Of that woman isnāt a superhero, I donāt know who is. If your brother can learn to compartmentalize and keep a narrative in his mind like my friend, heās a hero too. But if heās not cut out for that, no shame in that either.
My friend doesnāt overprotect her kids, even though her son suffered a traumatic brain injury in high school. She still says, āI canāt keep my kids in a bubble.ā
Itās truly astonishing. And youād think itād take a psychopath to handle it. But no. Sheās one of the most loyal and steadfast friends Iāve ever had.
I couldnāt do it. Sometimes men think they ought to be able to suck it up. But if it ruins them then whatās the point?
@God Allows UTurns I can't even begin to imagine how this changes a person. If these are the only people they see then they will be disillusioned with humanity in a way. What people like your brother do are amazing.
@Louis Cortez It phases everyone to some point, it just depends if the person will tell you...if they don't it doesn't mean they are weak, just means they don't trust you enough to tell you yet and that's fine.
Jim Smyth went out on a Sunday he had off and actually found her body because he recognised the map and house terri-lynne drew and I love when he just sits and abuses him because he can he's a brilliant but savage detective and I would not like him on my tail!
@Fif0l It came from a pondering mind that is more advanced than yours. What they said could very well be the truth. People obviously do this beyond your understanding, and some peoples understanding of how the mind works is beyond your comprehension.
At least she cried and expressed some kind of remorse. Real or fake, the other one doesn't even understand that he should at the very least pretend to be horrified.
No because he orchestrated the whole thing and would have carried it out with or without her. Heās the mastermind and manipulated her. Does that excuse her behavior? No. But heās a man much older than her who definitely has more power over the whole situation.
@starjen222 I understand where you are coming from, but I have to disagree with you. She knew full well what she was doing, and her actions directly led to the little girl's sad fate.
@Raven it does, partially. On top of her confessing, she shouldn't have gotten the same sentence. At least she should have had a chance at parole and therapy.
@Some Black Guy With A Big D Note my use of "at least" and it might make a little more sense. Doesn't excuse the crime or lighten the sentence, but shows that the person - truly regretful or not - has the emotional or rational intelligence to know that they messed up, at least in the eyes of other people. The guy can't even do that.
@starjen222 @juan it boils down to this... yes she went out and did what she did and sheās guilty and she knew what she was doing, but she wouldnāt have done it if it wasnāt for him... it wouldnāt have been her it would have been someone else of he would have had to do it himself... if she hadnāt met this man she would have most likely never done this. So yes sheās guilty but can never be as guilty as he is
As you should be, she definitely playing coy about her involvement in this, I won't trust her story about how involved she was at all. She his partner in this crime and is just as involved as him. Though her pinning it all on him is her making sure she doesn't get as harshly punished as him for the crime she committed.
@Robin Sequira she DOES have a chance at parole- in 25 years. Honestly that sickens me- but I do agree HES the most culpable, thats why he got charged with her murder even tho its factually known he did not swing the hammer
@Fif0l i think thats a valid question. She said she eventually killed tori in a fit of rage, not because she was told to which means she got so jealous of a little girl being assaulted by her boyfriend, which leads to the logical conclusion she got jealous her boyfriend was getting pleasure from someone else, she didn't care it was a little girl being raped, in her mind it was a threat to her relationship. she deserves to rot. That being said she she did plead guilty in Canada that doesn't have the death penalty- which is often why American criminals confess, and Canada very rarely if ever has life no parole, so she really could of stayed under his spell and take the rap, im not sure how strong the case would of been without her. Still, thats why she deserves to rot and not fry
@Jack G That is correct! Anybody can look at a dictionary and sound smart on the internet if they really wanted to. I'm just a Random Dude, being me! I could be dumb ( no offense to less intelligent people) or I could be smart, very smart! I could be dumb to you and smart to the next person. All how you think of it really.
She definitely deserves the same sentence. She lured a child to her demise. That is one of the absolute cruelest things that can be done in this world.
@Robin Sequira she did have a fucked up life 100% I will say that and he probably did take advantage of that but no matter what it doesnāt excuse her actions and she had so many opportunities to take Tory and get help and she chose not too
She admitting to being the one who bashed the little girls head in, broke her ribs, stomped her to to death, and shoved her body in a garbage bag. Millions of young women have drug habits, are groomed by older men, have unknown amounts of trauma.
But y'all wanna say "well she cried and maybe she had a bad life ):"
@Robin Sequira idc she knew she didnāt have to do this you can say she was manipulated but she left the car 2x didnāt get the police heard the girl calling her name she just stood there anyone who puts their life b4 a child w/o trying to save the situation is scum and she deserves it
@Liz Kelly she said she struck her in rage Bc he was getting pleasure for another person what are u talking about ALSO she walked back and forth from the car 2x
@Liz Kelly I am as well, "more disgusted by the woman". She did lure her in the car. Then she didn't stop it from happening even though she was begging. AND then she killed her with a hammer, out of just jealousy. She is a terrible monster, capable of taking other's entire lives without any hesitation or a valid reason. Just because she felt a certain way. In an cross examination during the trial, it was found out that the woman had in the past blinded her adoptive mother in/during an argument, and put a puppy in a microwave.
I had an ex girlfriend who tried to kill me as well, had to live in fear, and had to sue her.
I have nothing against women in particular, but the gender does not determine who decides to become a monster.
@Bell Uhhh she also assaulted numerous people previously, and microwaved a dog when she was a kid. She is hardly some doe eyed girl led astray by a bad boyfriend. Sheās a sociopath in her own right and knew what she was doing, she just didnāt care.
@Robin Sequira Why does the lady child predator and the sociopath who brutally murdered her parents and mocked her dad's haunting screams get the most sympathy? You don't even have any evidence that they were victimized in any way. Bad life my ass. They were weak and completely lacking in morals so maybe that's what people relate to.
The detectives were giving her a cathartic point of view to make her confess. She was horrible day to day and subconsciously looking for some sort of story.
@Robin Sequira i dont care if she was 10. lol . she is revolting. u may be correct . im sure no normal 18 year old would bat an eye at him. just talking to a dude like him would make me question anyones life style from birth . who would even try .
@starjen222 donāt be naive. She knew when to turn on the tears and show remorse but ultimately she is only sad for herself and what will happen. Women want everything equal between men and women until it doesnāt benefit them (older, bigger and stronger victim mindset). Bs!
@Skot Matthews I know you commented dang near a year ago.. but where was it said that she was the one who actually murdered her??? Also did she ever say why she agreed to lure her in the first place? Iām going crazy trying to figure out if she had an explanation. And crazy to read that sheās the one who actually murdered her? What?!
@QuasiELVIS do you know where I can find that information? I had no idea that she actually killed her.... oh my god. And did she ever say why she agreed to lure her in the first place? Trying to find info
Imagine the feelings of the mother knowing the girl only walked back to school because of the earrings she forgot. Im sure she cursed the day she gave them to her. Rest in peace beautiful angel. And i hope her mom finds rest to.
@F. Moussa pedophiles exist in large numbers in Switzerland. Their offender programs are notoriously lax. Many get out to reoffend. I would think twice before letting my kid walk alone ever.
@Bethany Michelle "Suspicion initially rested on Stafford's mother, Tara McDonald, as she had waited two hours to report her daughter missing even though her walk home from school was only a few blocks. Additionally, McDonald was unemployed, addicted to drugs, and hadn't gone out to search for her daughter, leaving it to the girl's grandmother to search for her, and later file a missing persons report. McDonald was suspected of being the woman in the security footage, which McClintic later confessed to."...this is on Wikipedia
@Raph K Actually that isn't true, Switzerland is a mixture of French, German, and Italian regions. While each individual area might be somewhat homogeneous, there is not a distinct Swiss culture nor a distinct Swiss person as all Swiss people come from different areas from around Europe. In fact, Swiss culture is entirely a mix of the aforementioned regions.
That someone You are well informed. And what you wrote is 100% correct. If more people would be so well informed, this world would be a better place. Knowledge is power.
@Raph K lmao okay, yeah that's why. couldn't possibly be that people not being crushed under the weight of unrestrained capitalism are happier, more educated, and commit less crime
from what i've read the mother wasn't a very good mom... she was a drug addict and it took her hours to call the police when her daughter didn't return home & she expected the grandma to look for her daughter :/
@Calamity Natalie Not a good idea to shelter your children : they will become unwary of their environement, unable to sense shady people/situations and overall too inexperienced with the outside world. Warn them of the dangers of the outside world, make them take precautions but let them become autonomous.
While i think the condolence comes from your heart, you've not put much thought in your first two sentences: "Imagine the feelings of the mother knowing the girl only walked back to school because of the earrings she forgot. Im sure she cursed the day she gave them to her." That has nothing to do with causation. This implies that the mother is complicit. It wasn't the earring or a speculation of circumstances that brutally killed the girl, but this disgusting guy. The reality is sad enough.
@Raph K Both the victim and murderers are white. And Switzerland is not culturally homogeneous since at least 4 languages are spoken in different regions and those regions have their own unique cultures.
@F. Moussa dude... thats europe :) in all our contries children walk alone everywhere :) USA is different cities are wide.. less population in bigger aria.. alot of abbandoned places houses far apart one from another...
@Eddie Dingle FACTS DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS! Explain to me how someone is a racist because they stated a factual comment. āYou live in a culturally homogeneous society.ā āRaciiist! Omg my poor feelings canāt take the truth! ā Wah omg grow up.
@pedgeAndcheeks no, because it's a bunch of lies. Spent the last 20 minutes searching for an article that mentions that and none of them did. He's just lying for some bizarre reason.
@Lima Golf Bravo cute how you just keep talking and send no links to back anything you said. It's been 6 months, Tom. Google relevant articles tend to be in the first pages lmao
Rob Banks everything is racist these days. Iāve experienced racism growing up in the south, it pisses me off when people call EVERYTHING racist. It diminishes the real stuff going on
@Thomas No offense, but ... how much darkness do you intend to shared with your future 8 year old. Adults fully aware of "bad people" get duped and hurt too. It isn't that simple.
@Raph K Switzerland is one of the most famously diverse country in Europe, as different ethnicities, cultures, languages, and religions came together to form a republic. Just say ātheyāre all whiteā to at least partially hide your ignorance.
@Calamity Natalie You wrote this a year ago. She's 10 and I'm confident you still don't let her walk home alone. I remember hiding behind bushes watching my son. I don't care who called me crazy at the time and don't care who calls me crazy now. He's 17 now and things had to change a bit, but you always be careful and stay alert. May God bless your little girl, you, and your family.
@Calamity Natalie as horrific as these crimes are, they are very unlikely to happen to your child, youāre doing harm to your kids by not letting them experience the world by themselves, walking alone is part of growing up, of becoming an adult, and that process starts from the moment youāre born, you want your kids to be independent, you donāt want an adult child waiting for his or her mommy to tell him/her what to do all the time, and thatās what they turn out to be when you overprotect them, when you donāt let them experience the world alone, get into trouble (of course trouble they can handle, not to be involved into a crime like this as a victim, again, very unlikely to happen), etc.
The conclusion when watching these type of crimes shouldnāt be to become overprotective, or paranoid when any male approaches your child, it should be to understand human psychology.
@Calamity Natalie I took my kids to school and picked them up so long they said " dad that's enough" I couldn't take a chance of something happening. Praise Jesus they're all grown now.
@LinkinParkRulz 227 yes but you can't take that chance with your kids. It can happen to you,SO PREPARE AND BE READY. For your kids. Take a breath when they are home in your sight.
@Carlos well let them be mad at my " overprotective butt when they're grown. Which they haven't, they even tell funny stories about dad being " secret service"
@F. Moussa It'd be okay if I said the Swiss in general are bad because your government supported the Nazis, right? If you weren't a hypocrite then this would be no problem since you are fine with demonizing Americans in general, over 333 million people, over WMDs in Iraq, a topic that has a absolutely nothing to do with any comment here.
You changed your mind real fast after saying "Don't judge him" after that first comment. But sure, keep pretending like you're just so great. After all, if you truly were then you wouldn't immediately switch your tone to condescension instantly.
The subject matter of this video was already hard to stomach, but a realization hit me that made it even worse. This case took place in 2009, and poor Tori was only 8. If she were alive today, she would have been the same age as me. Things like this are just a wake up call to how lucky we are to be alive, and the unfortunate ones should never be forgotten. Rest in peace, Tori.
I have a different look about life, I'm the same age as you said you are and like... I dunno, the fact of not beying alive is the least thing that makes these type of cases beying so horrible. The pain of looking for people that you now and not beying able to see anyone, the fact that she couldn't protect herself and the literal fisical pain she suffured in my mind is far worst then the rest.
I remember barely hearing about this case because I was also the same age in the same province and I never realized how bad it was because obviously my parents wouldn't tell me why I couldn't go out that weekend or hang out after school with friends for a while.
But holy shit it could have been any of us. It was so close to home honestly
I know right it's terrifying! Tori looks so much like a friend of mine too and it just made it so much more heartbreaking for me. Tori would be 20 just like me if this hadn't happened.
@ISAIAH SMITH Don't give them any attention. This person's a troll, who probably has literally nothing to look forward to in their life. They've been giving the same reply on every comment here.
I lived in Woodstock in 2009 and her disappearance / murder devastated the entire community. Tori and her family were loved by the entire town. Monsters like Mike Rafferty shouldn't ever get to see the light of day again.
Now I truly understand why, as a child, my mom would pick me up from school and would not leave until the children who's parents were running late had come to pick them up. It's a dangerous world.
That's such a lovely thing for her to do. Her doing that likely made those kids feel safer, she may have even saved children unknowingly
At one school I went to specific teachers would always be outside and offer to stand with or bring back inside any kids whose parents hadn't showed up, they'd go out of their way to be kind and chat with us and offer to make a call to home etc, I'm really glad they cared a lot about that since a lot of places have the 'once they leave the gates they're not our problem' attitude
I was six years old when my school chose to shut down because of a blizzard incoming. They did not call my parents; they later said that it was up to the kids to call their own parents. Again, I was SIX. So the buses took us to our homes. The problem was that my home was up on top of a mountain, up a mile long road that the bus didnāt drive. The driver left me at the bottom of the mountain and drove off. I didnāt think anything of it, and just started walking home, in the tire tracks so I wouldnāt slip.
Meanwhile, my mum had gone to pick up my foster brother from Highschool, then drove to get me, and the school was dark. She then went to lot where the buses were, and found my bus driver, thinking heād kept me with him. When he told her heād dropped me off, she was in an absolute panic. She started racing back home, didnāt see any footprints, and didnāt see me.
She started driving up that mountain to get my dad for help finding me, and then she saw me, walking home. She got me in the car, and started crying. I remember being more scared of her crying than anything else. She was so furious with that school because when asked why they didnāt call, they said āwell, Erin didnāt seem to want to call anyone so we didnāt make herā.
Itās scary to think about what could have happened
I work at school and parents get pretty upset and want to catch fights with us because we make them to follow protocols related to early dismissal, late picked up, etc. Safety is a priority.
@cryptic Where i live everyone uses bikes and stores are close to homes, which is great because its much safer. cars need to drive really slow so kids are not in danger of getting hit, and also because its busy in the street children are protected by numbers. In that if a kid is walking home from school allot of parents are always close by. yt channel notjustbikes explaines alot about why this kinda city is so great and safe americans/canadian city's could learn alot from this
@Vincent Maurice exactly what Iām thinking too some mother overprotect their kids and in case of boys it makes em little softies. My friend met a girl her son was like 10 and I brought him to the store and when I got back he told me itās the first time she lets him go somewhere with someone she doesnāt know very well, Iām my friends best friends. I find her kids is withdrawn shy and is the perfect kid for bullies
My dad would drink and always come super late. I was often the last person to leave. Some teachers would stay hours after school finished to keep me company till my dad came.
@Amy A My kids school is the same. The teacher stands with them on the playground until a parent collects and if theyāre late the child is taken into the school office to wait. It was the same when i was a kid in the 80ās. Just common sense really.
I'm glad at my step-daugther they have a way around that. When the school ends, each teacher goes out with their class after picking up their bags and all and wait in the fenced area of the school guarding the gate. When the teacher sees the parent of the child, they let the child go. So if they don't see any parent of the child, they aren't allowed to leave the school yard. I love this idea.
Parents should protect their children, but even more important is preparing their children to deal with situations like that themself. Teach them that stuff like that exists, teach them who to trust and who not, teach them self defense, teach them to scream or get any kind of help from people in the area. Almost no random stranger would turn down a child that comes to them and said it feels unsafe. Teach them to differentiate between good and bad situations and that it is NEVER wrong to say no to ANYONE that seems shady to you or tries to force you to do something, not even Family members. Teach them to call a trusted person if theyāre unsure about a situation.
My parents told me when something unexpected happens (Parents die, etc.) and someone comes to bring me home, itāll always be someone i know very well, never just someone who says āIām a friend of Xā or āX told me to bring you homeā. We had a self defense course in kindergarden.
Children can do SO much to protect themself and I think knowledge and a little bit of training are the best defense a child can get. The parents canāt always be around and it gives the child a feeling of safety and independence to know they can count on themself not being helpless without them.
Was drilled into my head when I was a kid. Asked if the mom of my best friend counted, who my mom has been friends with since before I was born. Yep, no exceptions.
@Angelina šŖ“ if you dont think people should speak if they have nothing constructive to say, you actually agree with me. That person shouldnt suggest we start doing something that every single person already knows and does already. What a stupid comment.
Like me suggesting we should all make breathing an priority and should all breathe and make sure we get regular oxygen
@roberts1711 I'm just an outsider looking onto this thread but sincerely telling you, your comment was unnecessary and I don't think there was anything to be had by it.
There're really sad individuals that this knowledge isn't common sense even tho it is to us. So again, what good did your comment do? Honestly. Could you just try to be nice?
@roberts1711 come on. Plz don't tell me you were never taught that two wrongs made a right. At least we can say the op seemed to be saying this warning in earnest. What was your goal here?
When I was a kid, I was asked by a couple to help them find their puppy and if I would get in their car and I was smart enough to say no and run home .
i have a hard time watching my little neices and nephew play because im so worried they will hurt themselves on accident. If i had kids i would never let them out of my sight! i know thats unrealistic, and youre gonna get to a point where you cant supervise your children 24 hours a day. what an awful outcome either way.
it's sad but true, people in more rural areas tend to be more trusting of their neighbors and not raised to be careful of strangers or locking their doors. Even sadder is that most cases like this they are not strangers but someone you know so you can never feel safe
@Jake Rosendahl she probably told her her dog had puppies and was giving them away or for Terri to help her find a lost puppy, that could work on a little girl since they are more likely to trust a woman not seeing them as threatening
My parents always taught me that and still when a woman we didn't know asked me and my sister as kids to come inside her house, we did it. Nothing happened, she gave us a toy she wanted to get rid of lol but kids truly are stupid.
If you read about the case, the mother was an alcoholic and not really there for poor Tori. Her grandmother loved her, but the mother had custody. So we're not talking about competent parents here, which is even more tragic.
Unfortunately, particularly with younger kids, you can drill stranger danger into their head over and over, but chances are they'll still go off with a predator if (god forbid) they're targeted. Kids instinctively trust adults, and think of them as the ones in charge. Makes my blood boil knowing there are people in the world that take advantage of that. They just don't have the life experience to know that monsters don't always look like monsters. (Obviously it's still important to teach stranger danger as early as possible, just venting my frustration that people like Michael exist)
Also teach your children that anyone is a stranger. A neighbor, pastor, police officer, security guard, women, teens, anyone that isnt mom and dad, brother or sister.
@roberts1711 "That person shouldnt suggest we start doing something that every single person already knows and does already" Clearly not since it still happened.
Parents please also drill it into your children's heads not to be entitled to other people (whether that be to other people's money, time, patience, bodies, or lives)
@Cara Diann lol well if it has lots of likes it must be a great comment. Because youtube comment likes are the best way of finding profound statements. I believe scholars are attempting to store all of the comments with high likes in a vault to preserve the genius of mankind.
"Like if your watching in 2020"
Seems to be the most brilliant saying of the year according to your method of determining if a comment is good
When I was walking home from elementary school one day a women pulled next to me and asked me if I wanted a ride home. I said no and she eventually left. I remember crying the rest of the way home. For years I thought I had dodged a bullet despite never really knowing what wouldāve happened. Today, Iām just glad I never got in that car.
Sadly, more often than not, it's someone they know. In fact Tori's mother knew McClintic. Teach your kids they're allowed to say no to anyone, not just strangers. If they care about the child they'll understand. If they're offended then they need to not be near your child.
You can drill that into your kids head, but different kids different processing, taught to respect adults. Everyday my kids leave the house I worry about ppl like him and McClintock
The really sad thing is, a lot of the time itās not strangers, itās a family friend or someone they know. What you should be saying is, āparents, please tell your children not to let adults touch you in these areas and if they do, find a different adult and tell them immediately.ā
@roberts1711 believe it or not, sir, not everyone DOES have that talk with their kids. I was molested at 5 because my family is religious and didnāt want to have the uncomfortable talk with me. So no, her comment is NOT stupid, telling people to ignore how uncomfortable it is and have the talk anyway is NOT a stupid comment. Your comment is and you need to grow up and take your bad attitude somewhere else.
@Angelina šŖ“ ignore Robert, opās comment is perfectly relevant, there are parents out there that donāt want to talk with their kids about stuff like this because itās uncomfortable, they tell themselves the likely hood of it happening to their kids is very unlikely so whatās the point, then it happens and their kids are left confused not knowing what to do. Even worse if the kid is told to always respect, listen to and obey adults. All of that is why I was molested and why I didnāt tell another adult about it for over a year. Ops comment is relevant, youāre not a hypocrite and Robert is an arse
Let me just jump in here even more crucial it is to not let them have secrets with any grownups. Theyāre most likely going to be assaulted by somebody they know statistically. Also they should not be touched anywhere where their bathing suit covers except by themselves when theyāre old enough to bathe themselves
@Stella That s the Case in 90% of the time. Children DO NOT understand Things, If you just tell them. You have to play such situations through, without that the Kids know, that it s only an "act". Plus you have to do it with a lot of different situations and Humans. If a child f.e. would not Go with a completly Stranger, it will probaly open the door for a the father of a schoolmate. Or go with someone, who says he is a Police officer. It s sounds weird, but you have to "train" your children in the same way, you train a dog. If a dog learns "sit" in your living room, he will usually not can do it on the street.
@Mark Zola81 S Letting children go alone to school, is a very important Part of a healthy development for children. So, No, they are Not terrible parents. Parents who do Not let theire children develope healthy, because they are afraid of everything are instead really terrible. Just f.e. look at countries like the US, where Helicopter parenting became a real Part of theire society. There is a ton of research out there, that shows, what these mindset had done to theire society and the mental health of a whole heneration of theire kids.
@Psycho Social yeah you tell that to this 8 year old girl, 8 years old is a ridiculous age to let you're child walk to school and from school on their own, 8 year olds have zero comon sense, crossing roads, talking to strangers, they have no clue, if any parent allows this in this day and age then there terrible parents, myself and my two sisters were drove to and from school and walked to and from school with my mother or father, you're talking bollocks
@Mark Zola81 Most parents let there children go to school alone with 8.... So 95% of the parents are terrible for you? Just make a quick research on topics like Helicopter parents and it s negative impact on children, If you do Not believe me. I know, there is always more than one theory on how to raise children best .... But how I Said, we have a really good Research Object with the USA - a lot of people there live this Helicopter parenting to it s extreme and we can see the difference in the development of these children and the children in other cultures, who can grow up without 24/7 parental Supervision. The difference is very strong.
@Psycho Social what are you talking about? Only 55% of 11 year olds walk to school today? You're obviously not doing any research yourself, please don't have children, letting an 8 year old child walk along busy roads next to strangers ain't good parenting, if you think it is then that says alot about yourself
@Psycho Social I am a parent of a 9 and 5 year old, no mater what papers anyone sends me telling me that it's safe and good for an 8 year old to walk to school on their own tells me they don't know anything about parenting, it's dangerous and incredibly irresponsible, any parent that does should have kids, goodbye
@Mark Zola81 You Don t have to read anything, I just wanted to give you the information I referred to in my comments. So that you can understand, what I mean. How you raise your children is not my bussiness. And it s not your bussiness, If other parents deceide a different way of raising theire children and you clearly do Not have the right to call them terrible parents.
Unfortunately most children are sexually assaulted by people they know. Conversations need to be had about not going anywhere unless mom/dad says its OK. Plus what can they do if, God forbid they are in a bad situation
@Psycho Social of course I have the right to call them terrible parents, because they clearly are, I don't need information off anyone to tell me that letting you're 8 year old daughter that can't defend herself at all out of the front door on her own, walking next to a busy road on her own, maybe even walking over roads on her own, walking next to strangers on her own, walking through parks on her own is terrible parenting. If anyone thinks that letting an 8 year old girl defenseless girl out on her own is a good idea don't have kids, end of
Iām honest with my 8 year old son. I told him no matter what anyone says, or if they say I sent them.. etc. I would NEVER send a stranger to get my son. Never. He knows there are some bad people out there, that can do really bad things, including taking his life.
I didnāt scare him too much but I scared him enough that I think he knows what to do in that situation. I told him to scream, to yell, to run to any adult he could whether thatās a family, a store clerk, a teacher, anything. Heās also in karate learning self defense. Itās my worst fucking nightmare that someone takes my son.
@Angelina šŖ“ What good did the comment do? It made me laugh. I thought it was a little funny and Iām glad that comment was made. I donāt think he meant anything harsh or mean in the comment, and I do agree with him.
@Mark Zola81 I agree that other guy is completely wrong itās never safe to let anyone under the age of even 14 I feel to be walking alone for long. I personally was always driven to and from school and anyways itās too hot in Florida (where I live) to be walking for 15 minutes. Thatās why I always go jogging after dinner.
We gave my kids a secret word & if anyone out of the ordinary tries to pick them up the must say it or they'll start to draw attention. We instructed them how to act & who to seek out.
As far back as I can remember my mom told me that if anyone ever tried to take me away to scream "You're not my mommy, you're not my daddy" and I'll tell my kids the same thing.
@C J who knows i thought i was making a comment on a youtune video like millions of people do. Little did i know youtube comments was full of righteous psychologists who decended to tell me how horrible i am
I was walking to school with my twin brother when I was 8. A van pulled up in front of us, someone slid the door open and asked if we wanted candy. We had no idea the kind of trouble we were in, and we only declined his offer to enter the van because we weren't in the mood for candy. I later told my mom about it and she freaked out, only then did I understand what the two men wanted.
In Sweden a child reported that somebody had tried to kidnap him when he was playing outside. The man had asked the child to follow him to his car under the pretext that he was a police officer. The man told the kid that the kids family had been in a accident and were in hospital. The kid asked the fake police for the password and when the police couldnāt give an answer the kid got on his bike and sped away home. This was on the news a couple of years ago and is proven. Have a password that only you as parents know, this way the child wonāt put down their guard towards strangers.
One of our local news stations once did a news story on seeing if they could get children to leave with them or at least get close enough to snatch. Every child the reporter approached did. Understand, parents watched it on camera and had actually volunteered their kids to be approached because they thought they had told them enough times to not go with strangers! A school aged child will almost always do what an adult tells them. Children in public areas need to be under adult supervision or as they get older (8+) need to have other age mates out with them for moral support. This was directly after we had a serial child predator hunting down children and assaulting and murdering them for two years in our city.
i learned what rape and sex was when i was 7 why well magazines were a thing and fetishes.
but yes do this drill that into your kids mind but my case was unique.
My sons know not to go with anyone thatās not us. My oldest says heās just going to start screaming curse words. I donāt know about his tactic but hey itās something I guess?
I thought that was what everyone tells their kids. I got told that in the innocent '40's when most of the men were in the war. Don't tell me her family don't feel guilty.
I have been drilling this into my kids heads ever since they could speak. when they were in 6th grade there was an attempt to kidnap a child from outside of their school. brutal.
@Melatonin Yeah, I think understanding what a stranger is, being able to say No to an adult, and recognizing that itās not a game are all obstacles to what seems at first to be simple instructions.
My parents always had a word that an adult would have to say for me to go with them anywhere. Other than that, I was taught thereās never a puppy, adults just want me for themselves or to hurt/kill me no full grown adult would never need help from a child, so to always find someone you trust for help.
I used to be in aftercare and my mom and i had a password so if someone I didn't know came and said oh your mom wanted me to pick you up and they didn't know the password I wouldn't go w them. I still remember that to this day and it was over 15 years ago
It's tragic that alot of the time youngs kids will understand but think there are exceptions aka family friends or even family. Please keep telling your kids and reminding them and testing them and asking them questions cause this entire story made me sick and I can't even imagine the girl and her family suffering through something like this.
Sadly most kids are abused/killed by people they already know. Itās important to talk about strangers but also emphasize that not even people they know can make them uncomfortable/touch them/etc - PreK teacher
My niece is four and an only-child so she really doesnāt have much interaction with other children. She goes up and talks to just about anybody and itās scary as hell. I donāt know what my older sister does to teach her about stranger-danger, but I hope itās at least something.
I am a parent and thank god our children have not been hurt. We talk about stranger danger all the time. When I'm driving in my car, I point out strangers to my kids and ask them "Hey, what about that guy, is he a good guy or a bad guy?" I'm not looking to create stereotypes. When my kids reply "We don't know, but he is a stranger," I know we've done a good job.
Also, walk the talk. Don't just repeat to your kids "stranger danger, stranger danger!" You need to verbalize what YOU are thinking about so your kids know how to do it, and that it's OK to be suspicious of people and not to trust them immediately. Once you get to know someone, then you make sure your kids understand that that person isn't a stranger anymore, but you still need to be cautious.
So when I'm driving or walking around with my children, I sometimes point to someone--like someone standing on the side of the road, someone in a parking lot, someone who tries coming up to us and talking--I tell my kids what I am thinking.. stuff like "Ok I don't know that guy, he is a stranger. He's PROBABLY nice, because most people are nice, but he could be a bad guy. I'm not going to go over and talk to him. I am going to roll up my windows. I'll stay a safe distance away from him. He looks suspicious carrying that huge backpack and shouting at cars trying to get drivers to stop."
Just examples. Set examples and make sure your kids hear you thinking through things. When I was a kid, my parents always said "Don't talk to strangers!" And a few times they said "Don't take candy from a stranger!" But that was it. No more context. I would see my parents talking to strangers (someone at a store, someone at the gas station, someone on the side of the road.) It was confusing to me. I wish they had verbalized what they were doing so I understood it. That doesn't mean you have to SCARE your kids and make them paranoid, because yes, most people are good, and you don't want kids living in fear.
And yes, I am one of those people who could NOT be a detective. I'd take matters into my own hands and I doubt I'd have a moment's reservation about it.
@roberts1711 no, not every parent does this and not ever parent does it effectively! Itās about teaching not interacting with strangers, understanding the temptation of lure and how to resist, and bodily boundaries as soon as the baby is born! For instance, teaching children, young teens, adults & even family friends are strangers if mom and dad arenāt around. Itās teaching that hugging and accepting kisses from adults is never okay. Itās teaching a 2 year old they donāt have to let everyone hug them. Itās allowing the two year old to say āno, my body, no touchā. Itās teaching children they donāt need to hold hands with adults or authority figures because āNO, this is my body. Do not touch my body.ā. Itās teaching your children to say this phrases CONFIDENTLY and strongly.
@Cotton Candy Kawaii so true, sometimes rural areas have less structured activity or daycare to keep kids busy while parents work so often kids can go home and bounce around the neighborhood, leaving them susceptible.
@roberts1711 You know, something just occurred to me: parents should tell their kids NOT to go with strangers! I'm proud of myself and this novel thought.
@Pepsi Entitled? Donāt you mean dependent? Every young child is dependent on an adult. The little girl that was murdered was 8 years old. Wtf are you on? š¤Ø
I have a 15 year old daughter sf course she is older takes the bus to school and work during the day . My hart bleeds for the little girl and her parents
Even if the person knows your kids name. That's what my mom always told me. Some sick fuck could've overheard your name at some point and then some day come up to you and say " (Name) Your parents have been in an accident, they asked me to go pick you up! Here come follow me to my car"
I remember when I was a little girl someone tried to get me to come with them to find their lost dog. It was right in my neighborhood too just up the street from my house. I'm grateful that my mom and teachers told me to not fall for it.
Absolutely necessary especially since a lot of kids are taught to be polite and obedient towards adults. My parents told me how to say no if someone tried to talk to me, but did not tell me what to do if someone hops in the car with you and pulls off. Most terryfying moment of my life
@Jake Rosendahl Same, my parents fiercely enforced being "good obedient kids" to adults since they were both very social and active in our community and meeting new people was a constant.
@Jake Rosendahl yup, me too. Loved puppies and candy in that order. I lived in a small village (300 people) in northern Germany and hitchhiked as a teenager. My teacher picked me up and my neighbors told my mother, who was fierce...š
When I was 8 I got lost really far from my neighborhood at like 7am and asked someone for a ride home and he took me. He lowkey looked like a weirdo but thankfully he was a good guy. My parents were so mad
Also a very important thing is that you should tell kids that a woman could also be a bad stranger. A lot of rapists lure children with the help of women, but for some reason a lot of us have this image that we should be suspicious of men only.
@Jake Rosendahl the āhelp me find my lost puppyā thing was used on me as a kid, scary. I was told to just never go with a stranger but I wasnāt told about the lines they use
My mom drilled into my head that she would never, ever under any circumstance ask even her closest friends to pick me up from somewhere without informing me first. If someone tells me that either of my parents have "gotten into an accident", I get to the hospital myself. Public transportation aka, a rickshaw. No way in hell am I getting into anyone's car without my parents knowing about it. This case was horrible. I don't wish anything bad on people, ever, but i hope the prisoners make sure these two monsters don't even get to live out half their sentences
My mom has a friend who even taught her daughters to not let any male (including family and relatives) to touch her without consent, and go anywhere without the presence of another adult female she trusts.
Its disgusting how his 'biggest fear' in the entire situation is losing his life... Not like he didn't go and take Tori's, and her entire family's and a little piece from the entire community. What a narcissist. He was truly consumed in his desires; I mean, he wouldn't have done the crime otherwise.
As a father myself of a beautiful 4 year old, God forbid, I dont think I'd be able to carry on with my life if I were her parents. I can't even begin to imagine what they're going through right now.
I do wish public torture, followed by an execution was allowed though.
Even though the interrogators were using techniques it was making me angry to see that this piece of shit was actually being treated like a human being there for awhile.
@TheDeatharcana I don't know why people like him are allowed to live.. if only one form of sentencing would be to allow the father to deal with him as he sees fit. That poor family..
@jones dager let's be real. After losing your only kid like that, and the killer gets locked up, and is allowed to live, permanently out of your reach. What else is there to live for? That's no "justice".
Well, the difference is 1st or 2nd degree murder. "Was this just a mistake?" Is basically asking him to admit it happened, but that it wasn't well thought out or planned. His silence kinda makes it look like he planned it and is too afraid to admit it. I think this coulda helped him in the sentencing part of his trial. Obviously he planned it if he told his friend exactly the kind of little girl to abduct, but he had the chance to make it seem impulsive, like a mistake as opposed to a new lifestyle choice.
@Jenelle Belle it is very clever psychology, calling the rape and murder a mistake...and pretending to be empathetic....the criminal is more likely to admit to the " mistake "
I want to know where the kids mom was when they took her from a freaking Home Depot or school? Young children should be glued to you where ever you go. You donāt see any animal in nature not being around their children constantly. Even when they are separated they are within eye site and ear shot of their young. Or why would the school let her get into someone elseās car? Doesnāt Canada teach kids about strangers ?lol
@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected I agree 100%
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ano nymous2021-07-06 08:12:29 (edited 2021-07-06 08:18:04 )
@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected she herself sent her daughter to pick up some earrings that she left on a table( i have a 10 years old daughter and i don't even let her go open the door) her mum was a little dumb but if she had any idea what could happened to her poor child she would never send her daughter there by herself , i feel sorry for her
@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected i don't know but in the video they say her mother just sent her to another department to puck her earrings from a table b if she walked home alone from school than her mother is also guilty
Proceeds to tell him about a similar case of a guy name Michael Feerr(?) Doesnāt seem too familiar to his name š¤. Hey Mike, 9:52 āthese things happen all the time to guys named Michael.ā
@ano nymous Yea she would walk home from school. Thatās unbelievable. Even animal donāt let their young be alone Jesus. If any animal needs to protect their kids itās human beings we are ruthless lol
@ano nymous This logic doesn't track. Almost every kid I went to school with walked home alone and none of us were murdered. It's like saying you're dumb for not playing the lottery because one person won the jackpot.
One negative outcome doesn't invalidate the overwhelming majority of positive outcomes and it's a little cruel to blame the parent for not anticipating the unpredictable actions of two insane people.
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ano nymous2021-07-11 20:23:46 (edited 2021-07-11 20:25:09 )
@The Zigzagman my dear we don't live in 1980, yes in my Country in my Village i used to go to school with my little friends and go back home with my little friends and there was no danger everybody kneew me + i was the daughter of the (Police Officer) and everybody respected that . but now we live in 2021 if you feel secured go let your 8 years old go to school all alone but then don't regret it . we live in dangerous times we need to use our brains
@ano nymous But the 1980s were the height of paranoia over child abductions and the violent crime rate today is nearly half what it was then according to the Department of Justice. Fewer than 0.0005% of children get kidnapped by strangers every year and only a fraction of that number come to any harm.
It just isn't "dumb" not to anticipate this kind of freak tragedy and I think it's wrong to pass judgement on the woman for being victimized. That's all I'm saying.
@The Zigzagman i don't know about USA im talking about my Country it was still a Dictature maybe that should be the situation in USA too, and im saying it for good so some criminal would not even think about commiting crimes so easy
@The Zigzagman i don't know about USA im talking about my Country it was still a Dictature maybe that should be the situation in USA too, and im saying it for good so some criminal would not even think about commiting crimes so easy
@The Zigzagman how did i pass the blame to her? If you will go back to my comments you will read it, i said it wasn't the smartest choise to let her 8 years old out alone but i don't believe that she wanted something like that to happened to her child
Hats off to these investigators who can say 'sometimes we make mistakes' with a straight face and gentle voice without gagging or having an overwhelming urge to jump up and pummel them within an inch of their lives.
The police have to act a certain way. They have to maintain professionalism and they could not lie in these interrogations. These tapes are clearly recorded and may be used in court. Would you want a violent police physically hitting the unarmed and cornered criminal be shown to a judge and jury? At best, the criminal could get a less harsh sentence because the police abused their power in the interrogation. Best? The criminal case is thrown out altogether and the criminal doesn't get sentenced.
@Ramuel Asturiano Yes I know all that. I was talking about on a personal level. It gives credence to the saying 'the thin blue line'. BTW after seeing several of these vids, it has been stated the cops can lie through their teeth to move a confession along. It doesn't impinge on them at all.
@Flowerpower the detectives are rarely certain the guy is actually guilty. In this case, for example, they just assumed he raped her without ant evidence. So they don't know he's a monster, they don't really know anything, which is why the interrogation takes place.
@Ramuel Asturiano "they could not lie in these interrogations" yes they can... the police can and do lie in interrogations all the time; this guy even does it here.
What do you mean? Theyād get fired instantly & would go on their record. They leave justice to the courts & they know theyāre part of the larger justice process
It boils my blood to see Pedophiles and Murderers who have no mental issues, cry as if they are the victims. Hats off to the officers who talk to them so calmly without showing the anger that they have within.
@furtim1 Safe? Well fed? Prisons are not safe places for these types of people. Even amongst criminals this guy is going to be despised and hated. They're not going to treat him well in there.
Lmao just listening to him repeat the same stuff over and over is quite tiresome. Take a shot every time you hear the word "credibility." Its genius it creates mental exhaustion even from the objective perspective
I know. It made me angry when we came in talking about how "tough" it's been since he's been there since noon.. God, that's tough? But what about what he put that poor baby through. This man is sick. Some people deserve to burn
@Username She got the same sentence he did (LWOP for 25 years). The difference is, of the two of them, if both make it to 25 years it's pretty clear which of them would actually be paroled, and which will be left to rot forever.
I don't think these kind of people can be judged by the usual standards, as on being coward. His brain works way differently than both our minds, emotions like guilt, cowardness, regret... Can't be felt by him the way most of us feel it. His head just does not function the way it's supposed to. I can't find another possible explanation for the acts that he committed.
Many of them do, as soon as itās their ass thatās uncomfortable and especially when an adult, that they canāt manipulate, confronts them. Itās pathetic.
@ScamDetector If youre viewing it from a perspective of self preservation. But if youre viewing it from a moral one the right thing to do is to own up to your heinous act.
For sure he couldn't handle it but it seems like he is trying to make himself believe it too. If he keeps saying he didn't do it, maybe it will just go away. Total lack of intelligence. Like, what did he think the outcome would be. That he would just walk away?
It's a horrific thing to do. Pedophilia is a disease. They're not proud of it. They have urges and cravings just like us and they're hard to control. Just because you're not a pedophile doesn't mean you can't try to understand what's WRONG with them.
I bet you wouldn't come clean about things you're embarassed of. We all have things in our past that more or less haunt us.
I dont know why i was so somber throughout this up until i cracked up after 46 minutes of "are you hungery can i get you something to eat" after every few sentences only for him to break and JCS cuts in saying no food was coming
Was there ever a psychological evaluation & report of Michael Rafferty? It might give clues to whether Michael Rafferty was actually a good guy who āsnappedā like the first detective is suggesting to him, or whether heās indeed cold blooded & knew exactly what he was doing. Of course what he did was unacceptable & needs to pay for it somehow, yet I always try to maintain open mindedness & consider whether good people can make bad mistakes vs cold blooded real evil.
I really like the second detective who gave it to Michael straight. Gave him hell and told him what a sick pos he is. I hope he gets tortured in prison.
for crimes against the most vulnerable, a life sentence should be the life of the individual criminal themselves...not just a set number of years for all. seems a heavy flaw that should be rectified
I would put this kind of people to life in prison but not just staying there doing nothing, actually making them do hard labour for the community until their hands fall off because of the exhaustion
Was it really necessary to give us an hour long video of an inspector monologuing with little to no response from the suspect? Nothing of substance was provided here. Huge disappointment from the normally compelling JCS.
So why in the heck do they a chance at parole in 25 years?? I pray they never get out..little sweet tori won't ever get her life back because of them..that lady is just as guilty. The system is whacked.
cannot understand child predators. even if they were hurt as children you'd think they'd have the fucking intelligence to seek council and help. instead they ruin the lives of our most precious people.
Im glad ppl in jail take care of ppl like this so they live under constant fear, terror and discomfort for the rest of their life. Killing them is way to easy. I bet the prison guards wont run especially fast to their aid either.
I'm happy in the end what that last detective said to him, you and Paul Bernardo can make googly eyes or whatever else it is you guys do! Perfect way to end it
I mean it's like being trapped in a room with a Jedi and their mind tricks. Lawyer up, don't talk to the police - even if you're bang to rights, get your deal hammered out then confess.
I imagine it maybe would have been satisfying if the detective returned with food but instead of giving it to him, he would drop it in the trash bin in front of him, spit on it and then just leave the room.
Detective: 'what's your biggest concern now you've been charged with this?' Monster: 'losing my life' I felt like putting my fist through my computer screen when he said that the horrible bastard he is
What a beautiful little girl it's so sad there's too many monsters that's why parents need to watch their kids very closely and the school should have made sure that that little girl got home safe
UPDATE: 8 years into his sentence Rafferty was moved to a medium security prison where he can use the internet to make online dating profiles and play video games.
I would confess after the 500th time the investigator said, "Okay?...". It's a great technique because I just want him to stoooooppp taaaalking. Absolutely brilliant.
This is just one of the worst stories I've ever heard....maybe his FN evil attitude like he didn't do anything makes me hate him such more than other child killers
@Jojo I agree with you, but a more responsible parent would have been with their child. I was left alone a lot as a kid, and it was totally inappropriate. Thankfully, I was never harmed like this poor girl.
@Jojo "letting her leave on her own was dangerous, the mother and school both failed to protect her" "Wow can't believe you think that means the kid deserved it" Rephrased so you can better understand how this comment comes off
Jesus! According to some of these comments this little girl had no one to protect her at any point of her life and she died unprotected. People like these are why I get anxious when I see a child without their parent. I will stop what I'm doing and look for their parent or caregiver. This poor child..
I mean, her mother didn't report her missing for 2 hours even though she lived only a couple of blocks away from the school. Her mom was also unemployed, addicted to drugs and hadn't gone out to search for her daughter, leaving it to the grandmother to search for her and later file a missing persons report. The woman that lured her away actually spent more time searching for her remains with the police than her own mom. That's pretty damn sad. I can see why the community initially thought her mom was involved.
ā@joe mamadotnet If the news reports are true this was her first time walking home alone to their new house. She was supposed to be with her older brother but he left without her to walk the neighbourhood kids home and couldn't find her when he came back. She wasn't with the group of kids because she went back into the school to pick up something she forgot. This could have happened to any of the kids in that neighbourhood.
@Smoppet Statistics show kids are in more danger with family at home than walking home from school. They lived a few block and as long as the roads are safe and the child doesn't have any sort of disability an 8 yo walking to/from school isn't the problem, not teaching them not to walk off with a stranger is. My kids walked to school just like I did and my parents did. It's silly to think in general kids shouldn't walk to school.
@Cynas I highly disagree..no small child should walk alone.
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November Blake2022-04-21 18:58:40 (edited 2022-04-21 18:59:07 )
@Nope an eight year old is in second grade, itās not like she was a toddler. In my country at least itās completely normal to have them walk to school alone,some even ride the bus to school. However I have realized that this seems to be insanely uncommon in the US, where parents seem to shelter their kids more
@Nissan Skyline Ok well at least the story is beginning to make a bit more sense. Children stop falling for the, "hey little kid come to my van I have some candy" or "hey little kid you want to see a puppy" but if the mother is unemployed and addicted to drugs I'm pretty sure the mother never really talked that girl any life lessons like such.
@November Blake Where I live, itās not safe to walk by yourself even if youāre a full grown woman. Depends on the country and area. Some places are safe but a lot of places are extremely sketchy. My whole country is
@Barwar She might not have been a good mother, but drug addicts arent child murderer/rapists. She did not deserve to be accused of such a terrible crime.
@Barwar itās a lot more common then you obviously realize ! Many children walk home alone on the daily . Do I agree with it ? No, my kids never ever walked home alone from school., but it is a reality that occurs every single day all over
@Huit Lang That's not what it means at all. He didn't blame the child he said the school and mother should have done more that's so completely different.
@joe mamadotnet I found a little boy wandering around a shopping center parking lot. I watched him for a few minutes. When no one came around to check on him I went to talk to him. He was probably 6 years old. He finally told me he thought his mother was in Kmart. I alerted customer service and we walked around the store as I was holding his hand. We finally found his mother. She had left him in the toy department and he couldnāt find her. So he went outside. I was so taken aback. I told her āwhat if I hadnāt found himā. That scared the $hit out of me. Poor thing.
I also worked at a TG&Y in the 80ās in the toy department. You wouldnāt believe the amount of people who just sent their kids to play there. This was after Adam Walsh was murdered. We had a code Adam in the store for kids that the parents couldnāt find in the store.
One time a man took a little girl in the bathroom and cut her hair and changed her shirt so she would look like a little boy. Fortunately a Code Adam was called and the doors were immediately locked and the mother identified her. It was sickening and terrifying. Just a little while longer and she would have been gone forever.
This was the hardest one to watch. Seeing this pile of shit curl up in a corner like he didn't commit one of the most heinous crimes a person could commit is vomit inducing.
The sentence is too light 25 years for taking the life of an 8-year-old. In cases like this, the only justice is an eye for an eye in my opinion. There is evidence and no doubt what happened.
33:42 SAVAGE entrance.!! āThis is the girl you just killedā and proceeds to throw a picture of herā¦ we all hope he got in prison what he deserves
Ahh, "She just wanted to go home and celebrate with her friends because her mom redecorated her room." That made me cry, that's so sad. It makes me so sad when people have a nice normal life and then something happens that ruins it completely.
@Little_hunt3r itās worse when you find out that her mother was suspect number one because of her drug addiction... poor girl just wanted to celebrate with her mum who was supposed to be getting better
Sick is not the word. They will enjoy that fool in prison. I hope the girl that helped him gets what she deserves as well. It's no good being sorry now ! Evil cow. Rip little girl š
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This dude's personality pisses me off. He's has the nerve to be snarky with the detective and is acting like a little child who is being wronged when he literally ruined a little girl's life. Only worried about himself. Not the little girl, or the worried parents, just himself. Absoulutly disgusting
@Royal Loyalty the death penalty is useless. Itās a far worse punishment, especially for someone who hurts children or the elderly, to spend the rest of their life in prison with a general population whoāll beat their ass every day. Thereās an episode of I Am A Killer on Netflix where the guy literally says death row is nicer than general population, so he killed his cell mate to get the death penalty so he could live on death row. What kind of punishment is that? And WAY too many innocent people have been executed. In a world with no discrimination and no dirty cops, maybe we could avoid that. But thatās not the world we live in. The death penalty isnāt a punishment, itās retribution, and itās not even satisfying retribution at that. Itās useless. Pointless.
@Hannah first of all, it's death penalty after 25 years in jail. Second thing, i feel like for some crimes (terrorism, child molester, mass killer, etc) it should be brought back. Depends on the crime, but some crimes are unforgivable, and they didnt show any mercy to their victims . Why feed them forever? Imho its not worth it.
@Hannah yeah and alot of the offenders unless they are complete sociopaths (which some obviously are) will actually be psychologically destroyed by the memories and knowledge of what they've done and self loathing and regret, while also getting their ass beat in prison for the rest of their lives, A life sentence is many many times worse than the death penalty, I would take the death penalty over 50+ years of sitting in a box anyday.
I genuinely believe he's innocent. His body language is different than any investigative video I've ever seen. Someone who's innocent would be as outraged as he is. He isn't trying to "look good," but is actually expressing his emotions.
@Karolin Dude. I've been emotionally abused from a young age. Give me a break if I struggle with finding the difference between "good" and "bad" people. Yeah, I've let abusive people get close to me because the person who was supposed to be the safest, and who modeled relationships to me (my father) was abusive. How is a child supposed to know? Why would you use that against me? Maybe look at yourself and be grateful for the life you've had to feel so entitled and unempathetic towards other people's flawed world understandings. Jesus.
@Farmer Fpv Dude, I just told you, or whoever the last person who responded to me, that I could be wrong. I commented that way before I watched the full video. Obviously this is a uninformed guess of a comment. Why are you taking it so seriously fam?
@Farmer Fpv You must have not been the original person responding to me because your writing style is different. Maybe you are. Whatever the truth is, no I didn't look into the evidence, and can admit when I am wrong. Can you?
@Hannah that's because the death penalty is a lengthily and costly procedure now a days but back in the day of rationality you were usually killed the day of or next day after a guilty verdict, none of this death row nonsense and costing tax payers money
@Hannah giving a murderer free room and board for life is no deterrent to the next monster who has nothing to lose. Death penalty is a deterrent to the cowards who committ these atrocities.
@Hannah Punishment is retribution. Personally, I feel better knowing these f#%$s are gone, but sure, I get innocent people get caught up in the system, and it takes many years a millions to get someone executed.
I wonder if thereās a solution, like a higher standard if evidence for death penalty.
@cloudzinmyize it was part of the strategy. Toronto has the best behavioral psychology division in the world. It wasn't coddling. It was disarming and lowering defenses. JCS mentioned this in the video.
@Synaesthesia Nah, you're right. My comment was ignorant with only the information provided in the video. I've already addressed this with the 5,000 other people who immediately bit onto my comment with viciousness. I already admitted the ignorance, and appreciated your comment for being informative, rather than just downright hateful. But then I realized you were being sarcastic by trying to imply I'm so stupid, that I must be disabled. To counter, your comment was ignorant in not taking the time to read my replies and multiple acknowledgments to my mistake.
@Rina Sakurai I appreciate your comment. I am aware, and didn't need random people on the internet to tell me about my mental state. I was the one who divulged the information I did because I was already aware of the issue. You're right though, and I'm glad I became aware of it early in life before anything worse happened. :)
Matt Farrell2021-01-05 06:03:16 (edited 2021-01-05 06:04:46 )
@colorado121 whenever people say ālocked up on public fundsā itās clear they donāt understand how the death penalty works. Maybe itās different in Canada, but in the US youāre already going to spend many years on death row, being fed on public funds. While in addition going through many lengthy and costly trials because youāre putting someoneās life on the line. Again this is paid for by public funds, making the entire process MUCH more expensive than life in prison. Plus most of the time the sentence will be overturned anyway. Like someone else said this isnāt the medieval era, a person sentenced to death will not be executed the next day. Even though these cases are dragged out to ensure the wrong person isnāt killed, it happens anyway. Life in prison is not only a worse punishment, itās cheaper, so the death penalty literally benefits no one. Except people that somehow think killing someone is somehow a worse punishment than letting them torment themselves in prison.
@Matt Farrell That's why when a death penalty verdict is sent down the person should be scheduled for an execution date shortly after. None of this waiting for years BS.
@Sophia Troanska I just read this whole thread and am quite appalled by the childish insulting and unempathetic blabbering of all these people, especially after you shared a snippet of your personal life. They blamed you for being the victim and that's really gross. This all started from an innocent guess with no serious intent, it's crazy how the internet can ruin your mood instantly.
@Domas Smirnovas i ve read this whole thread, and sophie said she thought he was innocent. a risky thing to say and all the other rubbish is displaced aggression toward the accused.
@Sophia Troanska I gotta say, welcome to the internet! You give away a bit of your personal experience to back up a point, and people are going to go after it like sharks to blood. Ideally you'd have a fair chance to explain your point, but this clearly isn't Oxford- it's a public forum where people are gonna jump on whatever you give them. Sucks, but it is a topic that gets people fired up, child abuse/killing and all.
This guyās interrogating is nonstop, draining and giving the suspect no time to think up lies to believe. Heās like a psychologic pressure fighter. Only the truly deluded or psychotic can withstand that pressure. Then Detective Smyth comes from under the ring with a chair!
Oh now look into it I will determine all the way at the end now finally he's hoping as long as he doesn't say anything the news caption will read this man allegedly killed Tori so that would always be in people's mind that maybe it's somebody else, and I blame that on the powers that be for using a alleged all the damn time when you know they did itš
I just said the exact same thing to my wife. I honestly believe it would be easy in most cases to crack them. Most are so self centered and egotistical that you have to stroke their ego normalizing the horrible things they've done offering sympathy while rationalizing all their twisted bullshit to garner a confession. Hats off the guys that do this job. I'm a level headed guy that's hard to anger, but people that hurt babies and the innocent deserve some good old fashion justice.
@Charles Martin III yes I have and I really believe when it comes to human psychology I feel I'm more than well equiped enough. More times than not I can feel someone out in the course of a conversation and realize what makes them tick and what is needed to warrant the response you want. I've struggled with addiction in my past and manipulation tends to go hand in hand with it in my opinion. You can make yourself physically numb to emotions and more times than not you have to use high levels of manipulation to achieve your end goal. Now at this point of my life would I prefer to be in a position where I had to pretend to befriend and show sympathy towards people that are truly evil? I would say hell no due to the emotional toll, but the people who do are amazing for giving families justice and closure.
I feel for the poor lawyer who got this whimpy dirt bag. I hope he is in prison getting what he really deserves. Eye for an eye. Acting like a spoilt child - blaming everyone else. Coward.
The woman said she was sickened by what was going on in the van, so she went for a walk; yet, she was the one that got the girl in the first place. Exactly what did she think was going to happen? Unbelievable.
I think he was the one thaat went for a walk while she was the one thaat killed the girl. She has taken his story and made it hers. His language indicate that he is inoccent, I can see no deeption in his Language but I think Peter Hyatt looking at the language to back up my opinion would be a very good idea.
@twilit She went along with it, and that is no fucking excuse. Men and women alike have been under far worse circumstances and walked the right path. She chose hers.
@Hannah Slabodnik no one can say for sure why she did it or what she gained from it. It could have been she was coerced into it by Michael or she got off to it as much as he did. Some people have weird kinks where they get off to assisting.
@Sean Matthew King To write up a full analysis here is simply not practical. You are entitled to your opinion, but remember we look at the words used. Because he was convicted does not mean his words are false or that our teams analysis is wrong. This is a complicated science, but when a person says I did'nt do it these are simple words but they are also the most powerful words, the brain cannot allow a lie to come through a guilty person would say, I would never, this is a simple fact but to say, I did'nt 99.9999999999999% of the time this constitutes a true statement , this is a point of fact a guilty person in a stressful situation would have trouble maintaining this, you should watch again knowing this and do a little research into forensic statement analysis then watch the interview again.
@Nicole X Looking at the words you have used I can see at least 2 mistakes. I can conclude that English is either not your first language or that you did not have a very good education. I can learn this from only 1 sentence, how much more about you could I learn from a few hundered words? Do you see what we mean, the words a person uses tells us so much and the analasys that I did was checked by 3 other analysts, we never rely on only 1 analyst. Give me some more words to work with and I can tell you about yourself.
@Paul Garrett I've ways been interested in what people give away in their words. Can you link me to some good sources I can go to to read and learn more about this? Greatly appreciated!
@Phoe Nix I do actually, I have a masters in English. I'm not ragging at the person I am pointing out that in just a few words we can learn a lot about a person. As for my spelling mistake, maybe you could try writing on a phone during a storm on a small ship in the black sea, just a thought. As a point to note I was not pointing out a spelling mistake, did you see the mistake that shows a poor level of English?
@Bishonen Princess I did not say poor education, I said they were not a native English speaker. I am sure you would not make the mistake that she made, but I think also you can't see the mistake she made. I will give you a cluse an article was used when every native speaker would know never to use one. I used to teach English until a few years ago when I started statement analaysis. I still teach a little English at university level. Everyone makes spelling mistake, that is OK but grammar mistakes are a definate way to tell whether a person is a native speaker or not. Also I can tell is a person comes from the UK or the US by the type of grammar they use, many people in the US say things like "what are you doing on the weekend" or " What are you doing on Christmas" Notice I said many, not all, but a person born and educated in the UK prior to 2010 will say " What are you doing at the weekend, what are you doing for Christmas". You begin to see the differenc, you would never know if it was not shown to you. So before you jump on me again, do some research first, you must only fight the battles you can win, there is no victory here for you, only a vicious defeat. I do not mean to offend but I am tired of defendin my proffesion. There thousands of us doing this work and we never work alone, there is always at least 2 of us on every case.
@Paul Garrett "Everyone makes spelling mistake, that is OK but grammar mistakes are a definate way to tell whether a person is a native speaker or not." Okay but did you mean "mistakes" because that seems like a grammar mistake, my dude.
We must meet up sometime as we are probably neighbours, where on the black sea do you live? I actually live in Mariupol on the sea of azov but I visit the black sea often. Here we get many storms any wind over 25knots is considered high becaue the sea is very shallow only 13m at it's deepest point. I sail alot, I have my own boat so I know the sea quite well.
Her own brother calls her out for being a great manipulator ā she (from what we know) falsely self-identified as indigenous to get out of prison and into a healing lodge instead... and she has assaulted other inmates as well. Took major public outcry for our damn prime minister to put her ass back in prison where it belongs. Someone like that is beyond rehabilitation...
@Grace G yep she killed the girl after he was finished I hope the prison guards put him on the dangerous units even if he has to listen to others tell him what they would love to do with him.
yes as she didnt commit the crime herself she was absolutely just as responsible and the only thing standing in the way of this tragedy, and she just let it happen
ā@Paul Garrett "I can conclude that English is either not your first language or that you did not have a very good education."; "I did not say poor education, I said they were not a native English speaker." pick one buddy.
@Jeremy House you have literally no idea my ideology and any attempt to try to understand through one comment of mine is nothing more than pretentiousness
What ever the detective dose it will not come close to what will happen to him in prison, the detective know that so he does not need to get his hands dirty.
@peace union if a pedophile has not acted against a child then no, they donāt deserve to die, the thing is, pedophilia is no just āa thoughtā and they should not be apart of our society and should be locked away and receive help. Pedophiles should not be respected in a anyway shape or form, they do not deserve it. Yes, they donāt need to die if they havenāt acted upon urges, but they sure as hell donāt deserve to live a luxury life without help.
@Emma Irving you're still not on the ball completely. If they haven't acted on their urges and choose not to, then of course they can be in society. How the fuck are you goin to vet them without knowing? Do you recognise how many people you've come across could have been pedos but no one will ever know it because they never act on it? When did I say it was just a thought? I never said that. I know what it is, it is a mental disorder of the brain, cause is unknown, characterised by large amounts of grey or white matter in certain areas of the brain. If they go to therapy for help they should be placed in a controlled enviroment until they are able to cope with their disorder. Many many pedos do not abuse children. Most sexual abusers of children are not pedos either. Statistical factual data shows this. Its far more complex than anyone here is willing to admit
@peace union itās extremely complex and I agree with you, as someone who went through the Texas-Wisconsin Underground Sex trafficking rail road, for 4 years, I know how these ppl work, though I canāt completely give an explanation why, if a person openly admits āI am sexually attracted to childrenā then I do think they need to be put into some sort of program may that be residential or Co residential. I might have misunderstood what you where saying and I apologize, thatās on me. This topic is very close for me. I appreciate your perspective.
@Emma Irving no problem, thanks for giving me more context to your situation. The truth is i doubt we'll ever be able to understand how these people work in their heads, though I guess in some sense, that's probably for the best.
In the US/Canada you are not guilty unless proven so, and even if they have the proof, they can't be the judges, so he needs to receive his charges. Because of that assumption, all interrogators are content and professionals and do not beat the shit our of the suspects.
@peace union howās the view from the non-existent moral high ground? āLeave it to the stateā āYou are a sadistic murderer if you kill a child rapist/murdererā
Listen here man, you need a reality check, men get arrested Dogs get put down
Mfs in this thread really are like āi would never kill a child rapist cus thats not cool and murder is bad >:(ā Iām 10000000% sure that if it were your child who got their innocence taken from then before the same monster took their life after being done with them, you wouldnāt act like this āsaint who will let the law deal with him uwuā, its human nature
Fun fact for anyone curious: These police sketches are often drawn intentionally to look uncanny and unrealistic because a lot of emphasis is placed on the person's most prominent features to make the more identifiable. In this case, it's her eyes and eyebrows. They do this because it makes the sketch more memorable to people and therefore allows them to easily notice those features if they happen to see the person irl even if only briefly.
@taiseer Those sketches are scary as hell and have been for decadesā¦but they seem to get scarier as time goes on. They look almost inhumanā¦alien in some cases, such as this one.
@Tess Stickels I guess people think you're making up what you do because huh well Idk why. Maybe because they think that people who work for the FBI don't watch YouTubešGood argument
that kind of of reminds me of the lake bodom murders. the police sketch is like terrifyingly exaggerated looking, but then there's a picture of a potential suspect in the case standing in a crowd of people and he looks Exactly like the sketch. it's super weird, he barely looks like a real person. the side by side comparison is one of the creepiest things ive ever seen.
Her nose too, did you notice that in the picture one nostril is a lot bigger than the other? And in the mugshot you see the same except mirrored. I looked at that and kind of sat back for a minute and thought to myself how cool the concept of police sketches are
@Corinne Givens Probably because their profile pic is a troll picture and the account theyāre using was made two months ago; and last but not least if you were working for the FBI wouldnāt you pride yourself on keeping that information to yourself? Yeah me too.
@ema. I didn't know all of that. Yeah I would keep that to myself too. You're right definitely a troll but that's a weird trolly thing to say like what's the point. Some people I guess are just really bored. Hope you have a good day todayšā
@My cat is a bastard Agreed that's why we love them so much. My cat isn't just a little bastard he's also not the brightest. He keeps getting himself tangled up into the blinds on our door. He's learned to bang the blinds against the door to be let out but somehow someway he'll get himself stuck in them then have a full blown kitty panic attack & make it worse. I'm starting to believe the blinds are my cats nemesis & he will conquer them one day. So far the blinds are winning. I crack up everytime he does it. You'd think since he's learned how to bang them against the door to be let out he would've learned to not get his ass tangled up in themš¾š
Your cats a bastard?? Mines a bastard AND a freaking HARDENED CRIMINAL!I have older cats, but got this 2 year old orange male cat. First thing he did...after finding out where the litter box was he now hides outside the bathroom, when another cats strolls out after using the litter box- he jumps out, mugs them and races off. The other cats only use the litter box with a partner now, to avoid being mugged by criminal cat! I could write a book about all the crazy crimes this cats committed, it NEVER ENDSSSSS!!
Thatās just not true. It would only be possible to do this if the perpetrator is already known to the police and the sketch artist knows what the perp looks like and therefore which features are most prominent. Most sketches are created from witness interviews, and the artist is trying to replicate what the witness is describing. The witness signs off on the final sketch which goes into the case file and the docket for court. The reason why sometimes these sketches look weird is because we are not always great at remembering details accurately. Try to describe a stranger you saw for a few seconds when passing them on the street or in a store last week. Chances are your recollection will not be 100% accurate.
But i think it also has something to do with the fact that when they draw those, they might not have much information about the suspect, and nobody at the police department is payed nearly well enough to make a perfect drawing of someone's face.
We need to teach our kids that women can be monsters, too. It's not just the creepy guy in a trench coat trying to lure you from the playground or the guy in the white van with no windows. It can also be the nice lady that looks like your sister that has a puppy. It can also be the sweet old lady that offers you toys.
@jsfields00 lmao she was saying how we need to teach children to be fearful of anyone, this guy used a woman to lure a child because children generally trust women without second thought because of feminine traits. She wasnāt blaming the child lol the child did not know any better hence her comment
It needs to be made clear that all kinds of people can be monsters. Be it the party dude or the quiet librarian chick; anyone can be a monster.
I think all we need is just to look at people more objectively, especially in something like court. The whole "shorter sentence, higher probability for custody" etc. purely based on gender just needs to be removed and then we're already making grand steps towards objective justice.
Unless the circumstances absolutely demand it, men and women just need to be treated as exactly the same, no ad- or disadvantage for either of them.
Also, your "old lady with toys" story, reminded me of that caretaker who just hung a child in her basement and then got off basically scot-free.
Maybe if the current political climate didn't hyperfocus on all men being potential rapists & abusers, we could look at the world of violence & exploitation more objectively.
When I was in I think first grade we were actually taught anyone can be a predator. The teacher would show a picture of a doctor and a picture of a shady looking guy and ask who was dangerous or something. Then when everyone would say the shady looking guy she revealed that it was the doctor, policeman, teacher, or just a nice looking person. The teacher also showed that not only men but women can be predators too. Iāve remembered it for over a decade (Iām 17 now) so I know that it was effective. I wish every kid could have gotten this lesson because I feel like it really could have saved a lot of lives.
It is really hard to get the danger across to a child as they don't really know how cruel people can be and just saying people are evil won't really mean a lot to a child
Indeed. I was almost lured away by a woman as a child with a "puppy" story too until my teacher noticed and scared her off. To look at this video and realize it could've been me is kind of terrifying
@EoCA Ya I grew up in a very small village with a max of 200 people so everyone knew everyone it wasn't uncommon to have people that lived near me take me home if they saw me walking home.
Years later I can see how dangerous of a mindset that was if someone had said oh I just moved in 5min away from you let me take you home I don't think I would have given a 2nd thought to getting in the car with them
@Alex well by that logic don't talk to anyone, how will you know if someone is safe if you never talk to them or say anything? That's just teaching us to be more socially distant from everything
@Alex well I mean I guess, just saying parents are way to overprotective nowadays when kidnapping and etc is so low basically everywhere you only hear it a lot cause it's negative and that's how the news makes attention and money
Teaching kids that people can be monsters has been proven not only ineffectual at protecting them from stranger danger, but to damage them socially and emotionally. Scared kids get abused/abducted. Being confident and happy is the best defence a child can have. Undoubtedly the girl was reluctant to go with this woman. If she was scared at the same time, that is why she would go along. This woman wasnāt going to physically snatch a child.
@bleach well everyone knows that, but it's mainly men who do that. But they're has to be a line between predator and trusted adult, you don't sssume every adult does this cause of a few negative things about it you've seen on media
@Annelee Klein yes but not all, you have to make them know that some may be dangerous, but most are fine. Think about it, we have gotten so overprotective of our children they don't even know how to approach the real world, we don't teach them to stand up since we do it for them, we don't let him fight and everything cause we do it for them. it's quite dumb, people for generations used to let their children out and they would come back fine, what is the problem now? Caused you watched 1 too many kidnapping stories? It's only reported because it's negative and because it makes good news, since if you see something more often your brain will sort of see it as more common than it really is, our Brains distort basically everything out of proportion
@Lakustaa S true, we shouldn't stop them from being around them. We should teach them how to stop them and what to do, they need stand up for themselves or else they depend on others
@riglancer yeah thanks, it is good to teach our children that they're is bad people in the world, but we have to also show them people can be good. You don't who will be your friend and enemy until you approach them and see how they act.
@minikui kowai desu well you also teach them that some are good, they will think all strangers are bad and generalize it from a few bad experiences and pass to their kids and mess their lives up too
@minikui kowai desu well you should tell them that there are good strangers who do care for you so if they get in that situation they can just tell their friends
@Beter my guess would be that @jsfields00 is perhaps just one of those bitter-types, and canāt help but project that deeply-rooted part of his or herself onto their YouTube comments.. Itās not necessarily ātheirā fault that people like @jsfields00 have a negative mindset or have tendencies to just assume the worst in others. āA lot of bitter people are just bitter because even-meaner-people treated the now-bitter-ones badly in life, or the bitter one mightāve gotten picked on during their younger years. Nvr can know for sure on here š¤·š»āāļø
Very true words, in my teens I was groomed by a 27 year old woman called jasmine that worked as a yoga instructor. Before I knew it she was having her way with me night after night. I still wake up in a cold sweat thinking of her tight body all over me
@Dakota Ksenia no teaching children to be fearful is terrible and actually what predatory types love! If children are afraid theyāre easy targets because they wonāt say or do anything. What we need to teach children is to be brave and encourage them to be independent and loud and strong so if a predator does try to target them they will have the strength and courage to stand up to them and seek help. Teaching kids to be afraid is basically helping people like this man. I also know from personal experience, encourage children to be brave not just fearful, even though there is plenty to fear, you make them too weak to deal with the realities of the world we live in by doing that.
@Zuignap none at all, all about self preservation. I think a lot of people think it's like TV where the bad guy admits everything. Reality is so far from that
And not once, did the detective stutter or get tripped up over his words. Amazing. I don't know how he sat in the same room with that evil sack of s%it and not punch him. It kills me how Michael is whining that he is hungry, etc. as if he is now the victim. He makes me sick. Thanks for listening to me rant.
@fā¢rā¢iā¢eā¢nā¢jā¢iā¢e I think they meant that the detective broke down any chance Michael had to prove himself innocent, had him crying and shaking and everytime Michael tried to say that he didnāt do it it was immediately shot down. It was clear he was guilty.
You were saying this as a joke right? Because he didn't break down shit. He got absolutely nothing out of this killer. i kept waiting, but this was so boring to watch. The only satisfying part comes in the last 10 minutes when the the other detective just treats him like a bitch and keeps calling him Mikey and enjoy a room like this for the rest of your life!
For a 28 year old man, he has an incredibly juvenile way of handling himself. He has the attitude of a emo teenager, rolling his eyes and acting like they have no idea what's going on. Obnoxious vile human.
Zachary Odom Huh? Saying heās embarrassed doesnāt mean you feel bad for him. I mean I donāt think embarrassed is the right explanation but if it was saying that wouldnāt mean I have sympathy for him.
Everyone is so quick to throw out the word sociopath. Let me make this clear. Just because someone did a violent and awful act does not mean they are a sociopath. Let me also make it clear that I am in no way excusing this pos dude and his actions.
"Ontario police have one of the most highly trained criminal psychiatry units in the world"... watching this, absolutely agree. The detective doesn't make a single misstep and just talks. Brilliant
Oh trust they do . I did a crime when I was younger not anything this worse or near close at all but they beat you down with words and at one point you just try to get out of there and just say what happend
but failed to let him speak, in india they do 3rd degree like horrible, u feel pain but no visible wounds to look on his body, no such video recording. in some gang rape cases they take you to crime scene at 3 or 4 am for recreating scene, then they shoot u, saying they try to flee. actually initial beatings push the suspect into shock and start confessing all crimes not only this one he integrating for.
@kpkdhar 36 And then just hope they got the right guy? You are aware that violence and torture is just as likely to produce false evidence as people will admit to anything to get out of it, even things they haven't done.
@CB Because it's not about "getting something out of the guy"...none of these videos are. It's about a look into criminal psychology and how different people react.
@Sheila Boston I have a brain injury: I don't pick up on when to keep my mouth shut & can't lie to save my life. I woulda just been arrested and then told them everything, right down to the last detail. Well, I wouldn't have done it in the first place, but I digress. It's just interesting to see how others who aren't a freaking psychopath would react to this interrogation.
@MoeJuggler How? He literally did nothing. He rambled on, they brought the girl in and the murderer did not even move an inch. These guys completely failed. There are other JCS interrogations that are faaaar better than this.
@Esteban Ā @EstebanĀ I'm specifically talking about the original interrogator, but just because he failed to get a confession doesn't mean he did nothing. His "rambling" is stronger than the rest of the detectives I've seen on here, faaaar stronger. Given the depravity of the offense, he remained verbose without ever giving into emotion or missing a beat. S+ tier.
@MoeJuggler If there is any measure of the effectiveness of a strategy, it is the cold hard results of getting confessions. This detective did not get a single inch worth of ground from the murderer. Other detectives here have employed less flashy strategies and they have managed to get confessions out of worse offenders than this guy.
@Sheila Boston like an argument on the Xbox lmao. They probably took into account the type of person Michael was and how he was acting in the interrogation room. They would probably prepare for a person who would be more likely to argue back more aggressively (I.e cliff).
Imagine it from Tori's point of view: Excited to be off school and even more so to see a cute puppy, completely blind to the horrors of this world as all children should be...only to have the next few hours full of pain and suffering not knowing why this grown man is doing these things to her. Children are innocent and pure and those who corrupt them deserve a fate worse than death
Death is only merciful if you're under the delusion of atheism. Go look up a few hundred NDEs from people who died in unrepentant sin and got a glimpse of what awaits people like this. You can say you don't believe it, but what you can't do is find a person who's been through it who wasn't permanently scared straight and turned into a lifelong believer in God & the afterlife afterwards.
@somexp12 I don't see any point in letting child rapists/ murderers hang around. If someone was going to be convinced of their own sinful nature and their need for repentance, I would think it would happen somewhere around the immediate vicinity of where they just found themselves standing over the corpse of the child they just raped & murdered. If that isn't going to do the trick, I don't see what the next 30 or 40 years in prison is going to do. Besides, I always just sort of assumed that most unrepentant sinners would probably start to have their "come to Jesus moment" sometime between the time when they find themselves dying and when they've found themselves still conscious after death. Let's just hope for the sake of most child killers & atheists that that's enough for God.
@somexp12 There are bleeding hearts that advocate for light punishment for these creeps. They make excuses for them. They blame their childhood, getting bullied in school, getting molested as a child themselves... whatever will have a chance of getting the courts to pity the defendant. It's sick.
Even worse, she felt bad to leave her mommyās earrings perhaps she took them for show and tell. I remember those days. I remember being a kid. And it is so sickening that these punks canāt find women their own age to be with that they take a childs innocence and life š
I couldn't read past completely blind to the horrors of this world I knew what was coming, have you seen his appeal its disgusting what he tried to get away with.
I have a different view of children, and before anybody try to cancel me or something, listen
I'm still very young ; i'm 14 years old. In primary school, i was the same big kid as i am now ; too tall, just a little bit fat, and very energic And others childrens made my life worste than hell for 8 fucking years. Of course i would not want anyone i knew to suffer like that little girl But i don't think childrens are innocent. It's by childrens i was traumatised, and because of them i now can't talk to someone my age, or look in anyone's eyes. Childrens teamed up on me, hurt me physically So no, childrens are not the little angels you seem to see them as
yes you're so right. i will never understand this disgusting sick vile desire for children. and then going out and harming them in these awful ways. taking their innocence and even their life. its so awful. it happens too often. people who do things like this deserve to be eradicated
@loveinspace Sorry, that happened to you. Unfortunately, that is often the case now a days and I am very away of that. I believe that more often then not it's the environment the kids grew up in that causes them to become that way. Or it's a common case of the bullied turning bully. I think all children start innocent but get as they age and are faced with different ideals, views, and people on both sides of good and bad, it shapes their personality into something often not what we want or hope. Just as Tori was convinced so easily in the video, many kids are gullible and will see adults doing hurtful and abusive stuff (possibly to them) and copy it, not knowing of how much pain it causes until they either grow up or pay the consequences
Prisoners like this are typically housed in lower security prisons because they have fairly low levels of chances of escape. Encouraging riots and violent behavior just means the COs need to break out the shotguns more often, like in PNM in '80, when COs were overwhelmed by a prisoner riot and raped/murdered by inmates. Death penalty is fine for most crimes honestly. Keying cars and breaking windows can get birching or 5 to 10 lashes of the scourge (fewer for females, of course, they are weaker), drug crimes such as "snorting coke", "shooting heroin", and greater can get death pretty much immediately, as can things like automobile theft.
That should stop most crime in its tracks. It would require a streamlined and more efficient judicial system based on local justice and village courts rather than top-down, bureaucracy heavy courts, and it might be prone to slightly more corruption and local politics, but it would encourage people to be aware of who their sheriff is. It works fine for Singapore for instance, so it's not particularly clear why it wouldn't work for a place like Chicago or Detroit. Japan does similar things, although it doesn't kill as many people as Singapore, and it barely has any child rape cases compared to Anglophone countries. I'd imagine stuff like mangas and anime do a fair bit of preventing this, acting in economics like a substitute good.
Crimes like rape, murder, etc only happen because people at large let them happen through incoherent and bizarre policies. It's pretty clear, looking at murder and rape statistics, that Anglo countries like America, Britain, Australia, and Canada are pretty much African relative to Japan or Singapore, but that's because Japan and Singapore have congruent policies that make sense.
@Elyria So your solution for the problem of evil is just to say the little girl was raped & killed for no reason then.... that makes everything all better in your mind? Let's just get rid of the employee and the manager altogether, that'll make your piss soup taste a whole lot better.
All that's doing is adding insult to injury. Along with not making any sense whatsoever.
@BillyJack85 "Listen to a few hundred"? You make it clear from your comments you haven't even listened to ten. Especially not those that challenge your bias; I'd bet dollars to donuts that you've had multiple people tell you you're incorrect, that your inexperienced beliefs do not infact line up with reality, and you've ignored them all because you wish to remain naive. Because it's easier.
@š¾šššš®šššš Try to understand that when I say you can't find people who have had NDEs yet remained atheist, that I'm talking about indepth NDEs. Plenty of people have NDEs and don't change one bit. A comment like this just shows you don't understand what actual NDE research shows. Guys like you are a dime a dozen... I run into you all the time on YouTube. You don't know Jackshyt about NDEs. And that's because they terrify you. Why would you research something that shatters your worldview? You wouldn't. And you haven't. Which is exactly why you think it strange that all you experienced during yours was a sunset. Next to people experiencing absolutely nothing at all, your experience is the next most common.... which is comprised of people reporting floating above their bodies, seeing a tunnel or a bright light, having feelings of peace or contentment, seeing dead relatives, or some other transitory, intermittent experiences that may generally change their beliefs on life after death, but don't really affect their overall worldview. These aren't the experiences I'm referring to when I say there's no such thing as someone remaining atheist after an NDE. In a study of NDEs in cardiac arrest patients published by the Lancet, only about 7% of people who experience clinical death even have an NDE... and out of those, very few have indepth NDEs that completely transform their worldviews/ religious beliefs.... so obviously not everyone who has an NDE renounces their atheism. This is a mischaracterization of what I said.
Something else that proves you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about is the fact that you think NDEs "only show what people are most predisposed to believing in, in order to protect themselves from further harm." This is patently ridiculous, ignorant, and it flies in the face of all of the hellish NDEs that people have. And it's not just Christians or Muslims or other people who are predisposed to believing in hell that have hellish NDEs, but atheists and Buddhists who don't believe in any form of eternal punishment for sin. So you obviously don't know what you're talking about on any level.
And something else that separates the indepth NDEs that I was referring to from your garden variety NDEs that are indistinguishable from a dream or an hallucination is something called hyper lucidity. The type of NDE you had where you can't tell whether you had an NDE or a dream is not the type of NDE I'm talking about. The type of NDE I'm talking about is described by the people who have them as being realer than every day waking reality.... meaning their level of consciousness is greater than normal waking consciousness. This kind of experience is unprecedented and in no way explainable by modern science or what we know about the brain. There's no reason why a dead or dying brain that's deprived of oxygen should or would be capable of giving people greater consciousness than the waking consciousness people experience when their brains are functioning normally. But like all atheists, this information terrifies you and puts your worldview in jeopardy, so you'll no doubt be forced to try to explain it away or ignore it, but the implications speak for themselves.
Now that we've put what I said in its proper context, you can feel free to go find an indepth, hyper lucid NDE from an atheist or anyone else that didn't transform them into theists. You're not gonna be able to, but you're free to go waste your time trying.
As far as my naive beliefs go, if I was merely looking for something comforting to believe in, I'd no doubt be an atheist. If there's a worldview more naive or comforting than believing you can do whatever you want in life and then just blink out of existence upon physical death without having to worry about any kind of justice, I'm sure I haven't heard of it. Trust me when I say, I'd LOVE to be an atheist. Unfortunately, along with not making any sense, it sounds way too good to be true. I wouldn't bet donuts or dollars on it, let alone my eternal soul. But I can definitely understand why people like you would want to. I'm just not that optimistic... or that foolish. Neither are the thousands of atheists who have actually experienced physical death and found themselves still conscious. Instead of pretending to be an expert you ought to go give a listen to a few dozen of them at least and see what they actually have to say. Or you can keep being ignorant. It makes no difference to me. Besides the command from our Lord & Savior to share the Gospel and to tell my fellow man about the peril they're in out of love for them, I don't have to worry about the bed that atheists & other nonbelievers are making for themselves. You're only hurting yourself. And I'm more than good with sitting back and letting us see who was right & who was wrong in the end. So if you have nothing else to add we can leave it there.
@BillyJack85 Nice malding novel you wrote there, really speaks for itself. I can tell that meeting someone who knows more about the subject than you really shakes you to your core. You're projecting your lack of knowledge onto someone who actually experienced what you're claiming to know about. You can't get more indepth than having your heart stop & be restarted later on. Enjoy your life of sad naivety <3
ā@Flamur Miftari Yes, at least that's what I have in mind. We should have a torture penalty for monstrous crimes like child rape. The kind of torture should mirror what was done.
Obviously there are all kinds of practical and ethical issues with this, it's just what feels right to me personally
@š¾šššš®šššš Yes, I'm terrified by the NDE expert who said he had an hallucination of a sunset and who didn't even know how common his own lack of experience was. You got me.
You're not fooling anyone with your posturing, least of all me. I highly doubt you're even buying your own BS. You have to know how stupid you sound right now. Having your heart stop and experiencing what you yourself describe as an hallucination of a sunset and not an NDE does not an NDE expert/ researcher make you. And considering the cardiac arrest study published by the Lancet and how many other people are having NDEs, it doesn't even make you unique. You're arriving at conclusions that have nothing to do with the actual data. And going by the NDEs that I'm actually referring to (hyper lucidity), you didn't even have an NDE.
Like all other atheists, you're rushing to judgment on NDEs without knowing anything about them, purely to protect your worldview. You don't know anything about them, and what's worse is you don't want to know anything about them. You just want your preconceived notions verified for you. Which is made all the more sadder by the fact that you people are constantly touting the scientific process and letting the data speak for itself instead of trying to make reality fit your own narrative. All you're really doing at the end of the day though is losing out on an opportunity to learn something new that you didn't know before. Along with making yourself look stupid. But like the saying goes, you can lead an atheist to water but you can't make them drink. So you go ahead and keep playing the fake expert and making sweeping generalizations & conclusions about NDEs & the afterlife based on the "sunset" you seen, ignore all of the other evidence, and find out for yourself how foolish you were when it's time to actually die and meet your maker for real. I have no time to argue with wannabe smart guys with zero integrity. Hit me up sometime if you actually feel like having an actual conversation and discussing the real evidence.
@š¾šššš®šššš well i couldnt read all the comments cause i was on my phone so it was basically a legit question cause all i saw was you spazzing out over a youtube video
@BillyJack85 I do wanna leave you with one little nugget of advice, though, since you've given up - one you've clearly failed to learn due to your lack of parental involvement, but it's this: Don't talk on things you know nothing about. ESPECIALLY don't talk down to people with more experience than you on said topic. I hope this has been a learning experience for you & helps you finally pick up growing as a human once again <3
@Bobby Dee oh shit eh what a coincidence i was there too
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Bobby Dee2021-09-30 04:58:19 (edited 2021-09-30 05:04:34 )
@Cody Levesque yep I'm also a lawyer, judge, politician, military general, opiate addict, mental health nurse, psychotic episodes sufferer, massive self harmer, a baseball professional, been with killers watched stuff like that happen and have it happen, graped as a child and beaten, cut and burnt and inserted with all funny types of things, paramedic, massive serial offender, astronaut, space marine, charity volunteer, hopeful student, an SCP, a religious deity and basically just god itself but you are probably something similar, it's funny plane of existence sometime āŗļø
On a serious note some of them are actually true a lot false lol š¤£
@Cody Levesque yeah Im existence itself you know, don't get me wrong that was a big inflation that was like randy Orton and came outta nowhere, but yeah there are constant infinite big bang's, gets quite sore tbh constantly getting banged
@InkiSpy I agree -rapists are why I believe in the death penalty but I don't think as a human anyone could learn what he did and not want him to suffer first before he died rapists deserve to be tortured they no longer earn human respect especially child rapists there's no such thing as an inhumane punishment for someone who would do this to a child
How can you say as children should be in the same breath as someones daughter being used for gratification before getting dumped in a shallow grave. Kids need to know monsters are real. Those myths about vampires and fae luring children away to never be seen again were for this
@BillyJack85 couldnt agree more. Even Anton Lavey repented on his death bed. Its all fun and games until you know its all over and you are about meet the next step.
I can't imagine that. My brain is not physically able to Imagine such a thing, even though I know it's a true story, my brain interprets it as fiction. I don't think any healthy individual can imagine such a crime being true
@Mkmf 1 Iām against the death penalty but itās not because I try to find excuses to what these people. I donāt think life in prison is a lighter sentence than death. I want justice to be logical and I donāt believe in āan eye for an eyeā. Justice is not revenge.
I would understand if this little girlās mother decided to kill this man herself (although I wouldnāt encourage her to do it because of the consequences). But having a state-sanctioned practice of putting people to death to punish those who have murdered isnāt logical. Itās like āI donāt like what you did, Iām judging you for it and Im doing exactly the same thing as you didā. And the problem is that itās a very emotional debate, especially in the US, one of the last democracies where capital punishment is still in place. And it obviously lacks deterrent effect given the number of crimes in the country.
My position against death penalty isnāt based on leniency or empathy toward the criminals. Thatās usually the argument I hear: āyouāre against the death penalty, then youāre as bad as the criminal who deserves itā and my opponents tend to take a higher moral ground, as if their wish to have the murderer get the death penalty granted them a superior status in the empathy towards the victim and their family. I only think we share the same level of empathy but disagree on how justice should handle the issue.
@UNKLEDODA Well when you say "if God exists" you sort of leave that impression... but I didn't really assume anything other than you don't know if God exists. There's nothing wrong with it. I myself was raised like that. I'm just simply telling you that you need to get off of the fence about the issue. Lots of people are raised "religious" who never really get to know Jesus... they just go to church because that's what they're taught to do. I know from experience tho that if you genuinely seek God out and look for the truth (as opposed to what you WANT to be true) Jesus will eventually bring you to Himself. So if you're still looking, then just keep looking. I'm not judging you, I'm not religious, either. I'm simply just telling you the truth.
How many hours do you think this detective practiced this style of interrogation in front of mirror? Almost no ums or "You know". Constant stream of pure pressure. Unreal.
After binge watching these videos, you can tell who have been doing interrogations for years and really worked on their "style". I am assuming (as someone who doesn't work with police) that a well rounded interrogation/detective team would have multiple styles
@Antharis Yeah but "Okay" and "Right?" are questions designed to draw you into the conversation. Or react to it in someway instead of just sitting there like a sniveling mess lol
āalrightā and āokayā are affirmative words. Much more effective than āumā and āyou knowā Albeit, still filler words, but more effective nonetheless.
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Mega Xenomorph2020-09-15 04:01:29 (edited 2020-09-15 04:03:03 )
Things I've learned from this video;
1) We all make mistakes, that why pencils have erasers.
2) We can't turn back the hands of time
3) People will start thinking the worst, it's human nature
David Timmons2020-09-27 22:56:08 (edited 2020-09-27 23:07:08 )
(10ish) This isn't a parking ticket, this is reality, okay? (11) It's also not a "honey do" list from your girlfriend, okay? (12) Everyone already knows everything, all right? (13) Mike isn't built to kidnap, rape, and kill little girls, and then get caught and hanged for it.
This guy talks in circles like my high school principal did, makes themselves seem uncertain, especially when they start to say āokā at the end of every sentence, makes itās seem like heās even having to reassure himself. The officer is obviously a good detective or behaviour analyst, but super annoying to the average person listening lol. Probably part of tactics too, breaking him down.
@Stained Glass I'm sorry if I have offended you with my comment. I meant no offense with my words. I understand the horrific nature of this case, and I am also disgusted by it. I by no means intended to minimize or make light of this story. Forgive me if I came across in this way. I surely would hope that people learned more than "pencils have erasers" etc. However, I do confess that I found this comment amusing when scrolling through the comments section. Again, I'm sorry if I caused offense, but it was never my intention.
what an incredible person this detective is. can't even imagine sitting right next to someone who took little child's life and acting so patient. i know that's what his job is, but it still blows my mind every single second of this video. he seems so nice talking to literally the last person you would be nice to. the detective is just amazing.
@Kay Kay That's a common interrogation tactic. It's a way to deprive the subject of comfort without directly harming them. If they complain, all they can really say is "He didn't bring me my bag of chips like he said" which isn't technically an issue for the interrogator.
@Honkey Kong There is no reason to be rude to me, just because i have another opinion. Obviously he did something wrong, but IMO he is still a human, and deserves all the rights that comes with being a human
No. When you have tortured and murdered a child, the only right you get is the right to die. I'm not entertaining any horseshit opinions to the contrary.
@Honkey Kong I myself is a strong opponent of the death penalty. But Since ethics is a subjective thing, and we both fundamentally disagree, i see No reason to further this conversation. Lets agree to disagree, Since Thats all we Can really do
@Psych except that they knew it was him only thing they needed to know is why. Thats not being falsely accused anymore, you already got caught.
And no i wouldnt go on a killing spree you know why? I value INNOCENT human life and i clearly value it more than you do as you would rather not even give him sentence.
Courtney Bunch2022-06-04 03:19:21 (edited 2022-06-04 03:19:50 )
Was it ever explained (not that there would ever be an explanation) why Terrilynn agreed to lure this sweet girl?? Driving me crazy not seeing any comments talking about it. Was she under threat? A promise of something? WHY DID SHE HELP?!?
I forgot I watched. Even his lawyer is happy with the verdict of Guilty. I think Tori should of got a lighter sentence, for her part of coming clean and implicating him. I won't name him.
That interrogator is like a pro. Just keeps talking and talking and talking right? Just doesnt stop, ok? Just keeps going and going, alright? Non stop for hours, ok?
āForget the fact that heās starvingā Starving? Youāve been in that room 1:55 minutes dude not two daysš way play the victim card the whole time buddy.
Very impressive. He literally didn't confess. It's the suspect that is impressive not falling for the dumb shit cops try to pull. I've never been interrogated and thought the cops were on my side and just confessing to them would help my case. That's the first bullshit line the cops use too. Just tell us what happened so I can say good things about you so that the public or jury sees your side. That's all bullshit and I would have laughed at them.
Stevie Nguyen no a confession is the āgoalā but not necessarily the whole point. What the detective did was wear him down mentally with all this talking hence why he started talking that towards the end. Heās truly the best in the game
In a lot of other countries this interview would be classed as leading and totally inadmissible in court, unless they have already admitted guilt, it sounds to me like the interviewer likes the sound of his own voice.
@Stevie Nguyen its criminal profiling ,its not about confession .and how many child killers are was given confession?. show more respect for police work.
bunch of pseudo psychologists in the comments here fully do not understand the purpose of this profile and obviously have no real experience in psychology at all
This guyās such a narcissist who doesnāt mind causing fear and pain to people weaker than him, but wallows in self pity when heās the one being controlled!
What a worm, props to the interrogator. I couldn't resist punching him square on the nose then choking him, make him feel a small percentage of the fear his victim felt.
"So you were watching child pornography for hours on end and decided to go try it for yourself, pauses to drink coffee these things happen all the time."
Dream Logic - oh ok š so if he did this to your daughter, or any female family member, youād still defend the creature who raped and killed them? Youād be the first one to stand up and yell at the police to stop being cruel and sadistic toward the rapist and murderer of your family member?
@CandiGale73 @Thought Crimininal I think Dream Logic isnĀ“t necessarily wrong here; I think she isnĀ“t trying to defend him, but just explaining WHY itsĀ“s so enjoyable to watch the aggression from the bad-cop part. At least I hope thats what shes trying to say...
Laila A. But it isnāt āsadisticā whatsoever and sadism isnāt a ānaturalā aspect of human thought. She is trying to paint everything in a different light completely by even that suggestion. Itās called justice and retribution. Sheās definitely terrible at trying to analyze what, why, and how, and should leave that shit up to the channel operators.
@CandiGale73 I do not defend or condone anyone or anything that harms innocents. The question here is about whether you should get pleasure from something that is painful to another. You people aren't that crude in your thinking are you? You aren't that incapable of parsing these issues out and understanding this I hope.
@inyrui Your prose is so pitiful, your ideas so incompetent they aren't worth commenting on. Just a suggestion for the future though: if you want your comments to be effective, or taken remotely seriously, don't end them with 'haha'. It sounds dumb, and negates whatever precedes it.
@inyrui You simply embarrass yourself further, and reveal a crude, violent consciousness. These kinds of comments, like about me being a saint, just tell people you feel deeply insecure. Continue to use 'haha'. It negates anything you were trying to say, indicates your lack of confidence, and keeps your comments irrelevant. Or you could change. Good luck.
Dream Logic you seem to be implying sympathy for a child rapist and child murderer, and we are supposed to feel ashamed that we donāt care how he was treated in the interrogation room. If he had an ounce of your sympathy before raping and murdering an innocent 8 y/o, we wouldnāt even be discussing this. He had a choice and went through it. No one made him do this. And the fact that he had a woman grab the young girl speaks to his premeditation and that a lot of effort went in to this crime. That creature got a huge amount of pleasure doing what he did. I will not back down from my opinion. I will never change it.
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P. Elle T.2020-08-13 01:16:36 (edited 2020-08-15 09:05:53 )
@Bluest odd that you would advocate the death penalty after going on and on about how crude people are.
@P. Elle T. āI didn't go on and on. I clarified to some folks who wildly misunderstood my position, and seemed to be expressing quite a lot of deep insecurity about their own, inherent in their attack of me. As far as your comment, you're probably right. It is odd. But there is no question such a person is dangerous, toxic, and has probably forfeited their right to co-exist with so many innocent people on this planet. I'm not advocating death penalty via the state; it is fraught with difficulty and expense. I meant that I would not blame for a moment the person who executed him, and I could probably live with doing it myself.
cops always use the strategy of "i know youre not a monster. I know monsters and youre not one of them". This is an actual monster though theres no getting around that. lol
I think itās funny when he sits there and saysā I didnāt do anything ācrying like a little boy it just reminds me of my nephew when he gets in trouble and heās 9
@Mandy M well I cant, because 1; not a psycho 2; kingston is closed. So point 3; hes not gonna be in seg forever, theyll have their chances to beat the living shit out of him, as they should :)
It's because a lot of offenders of this type were molested or abused as a child so they're stunted emotionally, and they never develop social skills and meaningful relationships, and they turn to sick shit.
@Jack M. that's not a monster, people are scared of monsters, this guy is just pathetic. The psychopaths and sociopaths are monsters, because they are cold calculating and impressive
@Timaeus Testified I think it's worth mentioning that if he actually were a psychopath it would help his case. Not all psychopaths do bad things, it's just a mental illness
@abc "Psychopathy" is the layman's term for "antisocial personality disorder", which is not "mental illness" in the way that say, depression or schizophrenia is, but a personality disorder. People with personality disorders are considered legally sane by the justice system- as in, if you have ASPD and you plead not guilty by reason of insanity, that shit won't fly. People with ASPD are absolutely capable of making choices that are conducive with living in society, the ones who choose violence and terror are doing exactly that, making a choice.
Went back to get her motherās butterfly earrings.. was classified a missing person when clearly seen walking with some stranger , life is precarious.. esp for the vulnerable
hope he has a miserable life in prison. Feeble coward, only person he could ever have "power" over was a child. One of the worst individuals I've seen in these interviews with how much of a coward he is.
I remember this case. I was around Tori's age, and I lived in Toronto at the time. I remember my parents drilling into me to never go anywhere with strangers. No exceptions. The change in the environment was so jarring in retrospect, people were far more protective of their children in the aftermath.
Understandable, imagine the guilt the parents felt for not being there when she came out of the school, they shouldn't have to be, this should never even be a possibility, but they will have gone through that hell regardless.
That's the thing. It's not "Don't talk to strangers," it's "Don't follow strangers."
Talking to strangers is fine, that's literally socialization. Going places with strangers however is incredibly dangerous, as this video shows.
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November Blake2021-05-31 08:23:47 (edited 2021-05-31 08:24:16 )
@Finnian Mckee itās donāt talk to strangers without your parents there. When I was about 9 I talked to a woman while walking, before I realized it she had walked me into a secluded alleyway with a car w. Blacked out windows. I ran as soon as I realized but at this point it could have gone very wrong. With stuff like this you are better save than sorry
@November Blake Well, in that case you followed a stranger didn't you?
I guess the talking distracted you though.
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November Blake2021-05-31 16:45:04 (edited 2021-05-31 16:45:51 )
@Finnian Mckee yeah, but in my small child brain āfollowingā was literally someone taking me by the hand and saying ācome with meā. Maybe I was just a really dumb child but kids often donāt understand implications like that ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Imagine you get asked if you're hungry, you request a full meal. Eat that meal finish and mention that you don't answer questions without your lawyer present. I mean-
Whatching these interagations makes me realise how unrealistic the ones on criminals minds are. Also his voice is really annoying I'm glad I heard the detective for most of the video.
That man is a disgusting freak for what heās done, I find it morally reprehensible to see him try and āactā like he didnāt do it! The fact he wonāt even admit he has an issue after killing a child makes me extremely upset
He's so worried about not looking guilty by eating or not eating, but literally everything else he does makes him look guilty beyond belief and apparently he isnt aware of any of those things at all lmao
heās gonna be sick! The minute you chose to kidnap & kill a child ! you made that disgusting choice ! we have choices in this world! to be a decent person or a sick individual!
And the way he comes off extremely friendly and helpful. I would probably have felt very comfortable and that I had a friend in the detective who was going to help me through everything.
He also knows he is responding we canāt see his reaction but the guy got a blanket he fains throwing up. He knows he is up shits creek he probably is trying to figure out how they found out? He is trying to not let the guilt over run subconscious? Damn interesting interrogation technique.
Franky Calgs in my long career in investigations everyone has their own style hopefully based on results. However, if I was watching through the glass I wouldāve advised my subordinate to give it a rest and he was talking too much. I guess I wasnāt easy to work for.
@homeGirl415 yeah now that was as a bit annoying but trust me. Everything they do is to get the suspect to crack. Sounding like an annoying prick is all part of the tactics.
i have never seen such devastatingly powerful Yammer in my life and i live with a habitual practitioner of it. this Yammer oughta be in the olympics. it's colossal.
He's a master manipulator , he needs to be to get the pos to talk. They're usually not having a nervous breakdown like this evil manchild, he seems like he can't believe he got caught.
@Michael Bugner if I was a crackhead. If Iāve said it once Iāve said it 1 million times on these videos. Lawyer up! Donāt say anything, which he kind of did so good strategy for the criminal
You'd be surprised how much the skill of "rambling coherently" can pay off. It was basically my most valued asset as a customer service agent, when it came to difficult customers.
You just talk and talk and talk in circles, while sprinkling in some leading questions and getting them to admit their own mistakes, so that if they were to respond in any way except the one you want, they'd portray themselves as stupid. That shit is gold and makes it so much easier. No need to get emotional or insulting; just get them to realize they'll insult themselves if they keep going and you get results.
@Michael Evans then the second cop came in being aggressive its a very good tactic. tire him out with the nice guy so he doesn't want to talk to him so even tho the second guy sucks its better than the first
I canāt imagine how uncomfortable that detective must be. Sure heās only pretending to be nice, but imagine having to offer that food, shake his hand on the way out. Act or not, that mustnāt feel good
So so true. Like all undercover cops... I canāt imagine having to be chummy with those who are definitely bad apples just to get significant evidence. Truly remarkably strong people Iām so glad we have them. I hope they get the mental help they need to stay sane and help. Very impressive.
I'm pretty sure at some point in time you get desensitized to this sort of thing, it just becomes a part of your job, something that happens every day. I believe everyone involved in the process of "law" should be that calm and patient.
The same way EMTs feel when we take care of murderers and other criminals, we get the job done and do it to the highest standards, our feelings about an individual doesnt matter, our job does.
I couldnāt do it. I wouldnāt be able to contain myself. Iād be done for murder too having been left alone in a room alon with such an evil monster. Imagine these detectives probably have kids too at home the same age š¢
It sounds pretty bad but you also get to mess with his head knowing the effect what youāre doing is having on his mind. Also a lot of these guys get some pretty bad ptsd from the things theyāve seen to the point where everything is numb
ā@Cyberpantsu I'm sure they learn how to compartmentalize, to some extent. That said, the psychological toll of these kinds of cases can and does lead to early retirement by some.
Detective: "These things happen...these things happen all the time." Me: No they don't * Realizes Epstein Island is a thing * oh right actually they do :'(
the part at the end where the detective is talking about how the victim "just wanted to go home and have a little party with her friends, because her mom just redecorated her room for her" made me really fucking sad
That got me too .. Last mothers day a deranged woman stabbed a little girl at a park when she was out with her parents..her name was Emily, that's my Daughters name.. she's only 4, I think the girl was 6, but it makes you realise how f* up this world is that a child can't even be safe in the park with their parents by their side !
I found it fascinating when they brought Terri-Lyn in the room. His demeanour changed so quickly from a quivering, pathetic mess to an evil man seething with rage at a woman who he felt betrayed him. It seems like he wants to get up and strangle her and is using all his will to act neutral so he doesnāt incriminate himself by releasing his true emotions in that moment.
@Montsergirlsome of the other commenters are saying It was proven that she was the one who swung the hammer and had repeatedly wrote in a journal about fantasizing and becoming sexually aroused at the thought of murder, and is still very violent while in incarceration, seems like evil found evil and teamed up in this case.
Giving him a blanket to could have been a bad move. Kinda like giving the suspect something to hide behind thus strengthening his resolve to not give in.
Blown away by the interrogators composure. Heās sitting across from literal human debris having to watch an embarrassing performance from a pathetic man. All while having to humanize and normalize evil behavior. The fact it took him until the end for that parting shot shows just how trained that unit is.
Itās insane I mean heās very good. Like listening to him try to comfort and normalize - that has to be so hard like you want to kill that man but he canāt because he has a goal of getting info. Really talented investigator.
Gotta be a Canadian thing, I canāt see an investigator from the States being this calm cool and collected for this long. Maybe I watch too much tv though.
@D X they say sexually assaulted because it downplays his horrific actions which allows a better rapport, itās also a more courteous way to phrase it. If someone was talking about their experience with rape they may call it sexual assault because itās not as personal, because it might be triggering to actually say the word (similar to how loud noises can trigger veterans with PTSD)
Itās kinda hard to explain, but I understand how frustrating and aggravating it is to hear.
Jim is an exceptionally good and very skilled interrogator. With most of criminals this is the way you get out information and you get them condemned. Otherwise, blowing out steam, you get s**t.
@D X chill out dude. Rape IS sexual assault. Calling it "sexual assault" doesn't take away from what he did, or downplay what he did. Its simply just another way to describe it. Just like shooting someone in the head..cutting someone's throat..strangling someone..those can all be accurately described as "murder". But of course, there's always people in the comments who look for any reason at all to bitch and complain, no matter how small and stupid the reason is
Some are saying that detectives in the US wouldn't be able to control themselves, and might just go off on the suspect. That's why most detectives don't handle these types of cases.... Because they can't disassociate themselves from the act and the person accused of committing it. Many police departments found out the hard way that you can't just throw a regular detective on a case such as this. I'm sure that many of the people who deal with type of crime, most likely have some serious issues deep down, having the full knowledge and photos of the act committed on a child.
I couldn't do it. I'd either kill the ones accused, or lose my mind with the knowledge.
@D X life in prison is a MINIMUM 25 years. Technically after that you're eligible for parole. That doesn't mean you'll get it. If you're particularly disgusting, you could end up as a Dangerous Offender and remain in prison indefinitely
@janbo there are actually two detectives here, the easy going guy is Chris Loam (he introduces himself in the beginning) and the no-nonsense guy is Jim Smyth
If you watch some of the training these guys have to go through, they really are the unsung heroes of justice. Courts and beat police get things wrong all the time but interrogators are a different breed
@Jeremy Fryar Eww, what? Gotta be a Canadian thing?? Yeah I don't think so lol. I mean nice try, but no, there's absolutely nothing special about Canadians lol
As an investigator, and a police officer in general, sadly this type of behavior often become numbing after awhile. You see the worst of what people can do to others and it doesnāt surprise you. Itās not as difficult as you might think to keep your composure with a monster like this. Yes, it bothers you, yes youād love nothing more than to throttle him. However, when youāre there, when youāre doing your job, it become natural, because you often distance yourself from the crime, because it helps make you seem sympathetic to the POS and helps establish a rapport. Making them actually believe you uunderstand them, and that youāre their friend. If youāre really good, you can make anyone spill their guts. That, right there, is what itās all about, and I can assure you, is the greatest feeling in the world. Especially when you see them realize they just screwed themselves over from any defense, and you can smile as you get up, walk away, and tell them what theyāre being charged with. When they realize that the entire time, you were just manipulating them, to get them to tell you what happened.
4 MORE YEARS! Difference, one is not a choice. Autism isnāt a choice. Looking away from murdering a child is pathetic and cowardly. Donāt compare an illness with someone disgusting.
These pedos are often brain damaged and abused by their family before becoming an adult. Its a cycle we have to find and stop to prevent these crimes in the future
TheHumanSpeciesIsAPlague NotMeantToBeInExistence it isnāt. Someone with autismās brain just works differently, doesnāt mean itās an illness. I once had a friend with autism and he was one of the most intelligent people Iāve ever met. Socially it can hold you back but it can also give incredible originality, creativity and different ways of understanding things. Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin, Michelangelo, Isaac Newton and Tesla just to name a few very influential people, thereās so many more -were all known to have autism somewhere on the spectrum. Seriously, it really can be a gift
@Conroyrofl Oh don't call Einstein or Darwin Autistic! They had no trouble socializing or getting laid. Using them is the ploy used by quacks to comfort parents of socially inept children after a false Aspergers diagnosis. Some people just are bona fide geniuses.
4 MORE YEARS! itās widely believed by psychologists that Darwin and Einstein were on the spectrum. This isnāt to even say autism made their genius, but it could have definitely contributed. Itās called a spectrum for a reason, it may disable some people, others it can help them shine. It can go both ways. But just because someoneās brain works different it doesnāt mean theyāre mentally ill, it just means theyāre different some for the best.
'Autism is just an inability to communicate, socialize and pick up on social cues, therefore it's not a mental illness. Psychopathy is just an inability to empathize, therefore it's not a mental illness.'
@Conroyrofl why even continue to respond to this person? It's obvious by their deflection from the superior subject at hand that they have their own psychological ineptitude and/or traumas. There's an assertive emphasis on proving themselves as seen in this behavior. They created an entire red herring fallacy and everyone fell for it. This person is in an abyss of misery with their pseudoanalysis. No one cares about their existence and ridiculing moral/social/ethical righteousness is their coping mechanism. Just stop responding to them.
For anyone that might be feeling an ounce of sympathy for this 18 year old crying her eyes out, it's worth noting that she later, in prison, confessed to delivering the hammer blows that killed Victoria. Don't spare her the rage you have for the man.
āDefence lawyer Derstine attacked McClintic's credibility during cross-examination, noting she had a history of violent incidents. McClintic stabbed one man, left her adoptive mother partially blind following an assault and put a small dog in a microwave when she was a child.ā
ya know, that might explain why Rafferty specified multiple times that he didn't do anything at 14:10 (or not, there's a reason i'm not a criminal psychologist lol)
Shes worse because without her it more than likely wouldn't have happened at least to her then. Then the baby crying for her and she didn't stop it....smh someone is gonna kill her. If I was a lifer she would be on my radar.
So disgusting. I literally never been more sick to my stomachs and I watch a looot of these interrogations. This is just brutal. They both deserve to rot and āshit shake shit and pukeā forever and I hope someone post a pic of that poor girls picture in his cell. If he makes it that long in prison lol.
I had zero sympathy for her the second she walked Tori away from safety and into a rapist's arms. I'm not surprised she'd confess to actual participation. I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't even more of a participant than even she's "confessed/bragged" about thus far. ANYONE capable of helping in this type of crime deserves the exact punishment the attacker gets.
@Suzie Thompson Totally agree. It was a horendous crime. I'm still amazed she got away with lying her ass off for so long when she was really the driving force and heartless killer behind this tragedy. Even after the police and media blamed him for everything it took a long time for the truth to come out. It makes you think what would have happened if she wasn't forced to admit it was her that abused and murdered this poor child. What an absolute monster Ā”
@C S does he? Rape is heinous, and the rape of a child even moreso. But at a certain point you have to realize that after a rape a person still has the opportunity to put their life back together. Murder completely precludes that.
I didnt feel bad for her anyway. Her story was sketchy. She walked away and came back then walked away again. She at the very least knew exactly everything happening and was the one that kidnapped the little girl. She deserved life for those facts alone.
@Rik S I first thought that he was all behind this. But after reading her murderpedia file it is clear that he was in it for the sex and she was in it for the murder. Now im wondering if she wasnt there that maybe tori would have been alive after all.
But my belief is that rape is worse. Yeah, a rape victim can put their life together but they'll always have that trauma to deal with, for the rest of that life. The pain and insecurity never really goes away, it dulls with time but it's always there, and sometimes the person just can't get over it and it truly affects the rest of their life. You can watch someone lose all of their potential and happiness day to day in their life.
Compared to being murdered, where when your life is over, that's it. No more pain, no more of this shitshow or having to deal with trauma. Yeah, the potential of that person is gone, people miss them dearly... but they also don't have to deal with the after effects of being raped, which lasts a lifetime and can really mess people up and in some cases stop someone from living a normal life.
@pudden pop Yeah but I just feel bad when I see people cry and from what she was saying I thought it sounded like she was forced to help. Itās easy to trick me
@ēŗē±ćć even if she was telling the truth i wouldnāt feel bad for her. nobody could force me to do that. in that scenario i would hide in the school and tell the staff to call the police. but iām hearing it was she who killed the girl. like holy shit
@Mary Just read her murderphile page please and maybe that will change your mind. noone is saying the man isnt guilty aswell we are just saying that she isnt some innocent girl. she is 18 and knew what she did.
@CTheCheese To be fair I know someone who did that as a kid who I'm 99% aren't a sadistic phychopath. They did it cause they were a idiot child and thought it would dry them off lol
@korwl the fact is she delivered the final blows. But never said she broke her bones or damaged her liver. Only the headshots. He put the kid in pain, and she finished her off. Both are messed up still.
This is mind blowing, if true. To be clear, what he did was horrifying and wrong, but if she did that, then he shouldn't be charged with murder. I mean wow, the little shit boi would have actually been telling the truth, somewhat, altho yes obviously he is still guilty for raping and kidnapping.
@Ouroboros Ah, the dragon eating its own tail... ironic, there is a difference between being a survivor and a victim. When you take away someone's life, you not only are stealing their potential but making a choice for them. So I disagree, as that's a nihilistic point of view in my opinion. She was so young and children are able to suppress memories or transmute the energy into artwork, writing, or becoming advocates for others like Elizabeth Smart. For the record, I'm bipolar and was a victim of abuse at 2 years old. Also lost my sister who was abused to an overdose a month ago. So my outlook could be skewed itself as I deal with my own survivor's guilt issues and shit. Anyway, I appreciated your response and it really got me thinking. I love the Ouroboros "infinity" design and I'm thinking of getting a tattoo to dedicate to my little sis, and that might be fitting.
People saying that the detective hasn't shut up yet, he's mentally tiring out the murderer and not giving him the freedom or time to think of a lie to try to weasel himself out of the interrogation
Not condoning whatsoever what this fiend did. That being said, he was read his rights upon arrest and didn't need to subject himself whatsoever to interrogation if he lawyered up.
It didn't worked out, did it.... And I think it wouldn't work on me neither. There is certain amount of character strength that'll put you over the bar of this technique. As well as capability to isolate yourself from environment. A little like meditation. Then you have all the time in the world for yourself, making up your mind, bringing your thoughts together and keeping your emotions at bay (as well as tuning in for appropriate ones for the situation). But at the end evidence matters the most so...
@J Ali Don't know if it's still on the channel, but there was one about a dude who had a heroin addiction and they interrogated him about a burglary(?). The difference to this video is like night and day. Dude sipped a coke, then told them "I didn't do shit, get the fuck out of here; I want a laywer" or something to that effect.
@Mick Loud When you do not want your viewers to suffer through advertising you set up a Patreon account. It allows people to donate to the channel to help provide more content. If you donate then you are a Patreon of the author and can access exclusive content, more videos, early access etc. There is a link to Jim Cant Swim's Patreon in the description of the video.
He did do this before. I saw it. The defendant was very stern and confident in his answers. You could tel he wasnāt lying. Fascinating. I saw it a while ago. Forgot which one it is
@T I remember watching that video too. It was kind of funny in contrast to a guilty person. Think he asked for like 10 cans of coke because they were holding him so long he was going into heroin withdrawal to make him talk. Guy was innocent. Jim Can't Swim mentioned videos being removed by YouTube last year
There are at least three videos on JCS's Patreon where he talks about the behaviors of truthful people: the junkie mentioned by others, a rape victim, a young man accused of killing his girlfriend. There's also one with an innocent, badly injured man that's nearly unwatchable. Unfortunately I've had to temporarily suspend my subscription so no links, but for $1.00, it's definitely worth subscribing for yourself.
RogueAOV actually , if you donate/pledge/ financially support someone then you are a Patron, not a patreon but Iām sure that patron and patreon are derived from the same origin....
Silkendrum neither the Guilty or innocent have a choice....itās not up to the suspect/ person of interest.....itās all a matter of Public records as is defined in the Constitution- however thatās speaking from an American perspective....Iām not sure what the options are in Canada ( they are definitely stricter in Canada and donāt usually release court proceedings but all criminal records are maintained with the RCMP ( not court proceedings but interviews etc) and you can request a public record for anyoneās criminal files, for example) and in the US anyone can submit a RPI request for public information and get copies of any legal proceedings that are not ā sealedā. Some states, like Florida, have very relaxed criminal records privacy ....which is why so much of Casey Anthonyās footage and legal pleadings were all made public. Other States are much more strict but anyone can file a request for release of Public Information on anyone who has been charged, interrogated, convicted etc ....its costs money and takes a very long time but thatās how YouTubers like Jim Canāt Swim have all these videos of interviews....
Ryan Ferguson, Michael Morton, Kirk Bloodsworth.....there are documentaries about each of these cases of men wrongfully convicted and eventually exonerated. The Kirk Bloodsworth case is the first exoneration of someone on Death Row using DNA in the USA....the Ryan Ferguson case is heartbreaking and itās the first time I heard about Kathleen Zellner ....the Michael Morton case happened literally a few blocks over from my house and was one of the first times a Prosecutor was ever punished for acting unethically and being guilty of Prosecutorial Misconduct for which he spent like a day or two in jail.
In the US, I think that the several times he said he was going to remain silent and spoke of a lawyer, and the fact that the cops didn't stop interrogating him would lead to the charges being dropped.
@Bruh Bruh it does. This is not an interrogation that could legally happen in the US. Now, if you ask for a lawyer and keep talking, or do not affirmatively ask for a lawyer in a manner that cannot be misinterpreted, things change. Now, the charges probably wouldn't be dropped but anything said in the interrogation probably could not be used as evidence.
Watching monsters suffer like this with nothing but their own mind and shame (not to be confused with guilt) is so satisfying. I hope everyday these monsters suffer in their little cages. Donāt deserve a second of peace
Basically life in prison means that they'll most likely spend the rest of there life in prison unless there in there early 20's or younger Parole is basically mid way through there time in prison, it's basically a mini trial to see if the guilty suspect is redeemable or not after a good chunk of there jail time, and the 25 years is how long there sentence is
The only form of justice appropriate in this case is the death penalty. Canada simply gets it wrong. God's word reveals that death is the appropriate penalty for murderers. No matter. What's coming for him in the next life will be FAR worse than what he experienced in this video...
Itās also insane that his gf was involved and went and looked for a girl with the specific look he wantedā¦ how sick that she would be in this scheme! How did she not say NO? Unless he was also controlling and being abusive to his gf and she didnāt want to lose him so she did it. Even then.. this is like toxic relationship on another level. Iād be damned if my bf wanted to fulfill some weird fetish involving a child donāt care if I was being abused myself I wouldnāt allow another human to feel that. Heartbreaking
@David Manske no that means after 25 years he will be evaluated by a parole board and he will try to convince them that he has changed and deserves to have his freedom.
If denied he will continue serving time until his next parole hearing at 35 years, 45 years and so on. So he likely will never get out of prison but there is a very small chance he will.
@Rahul Chaudhary Same dude holy shit. I saw your comment at 12 minutes in and thought "there's no way." I can't imagine how JCS sits through hours of this stuff and cuts it for us to watch in more digestible pieces. What a legend.
@David Manske that means the very first time that he will be allowed to go in front of the board to be released early from his sentence is after 25 years.
@David Manske They must serve 25 years, but can be released on parole after 25 years, or if parole is denied every time, they could be there for life. John Lennon's murderer & Manson family members are 2 examples of notorious criminals who have been up for parole many times since serving their minimum years, but they are still in prison
This detective was one of the most professional ones and we can feel that despite what the person did he is very professional and understanding. We can feel that he has immense belief and commitment in what he is doing.
I feel like it's always the child predators that cry like that when confronted with what they've done. The emotional capacity of an actual paintbrush. They prey on children to feel powerful but as soon as a normal human adult tries to talk to them about reality their balls shrivel into micro-raisins and they fall apart. Pathetic.
That's a pretty interesting point... it's as if some who prey on children do so because they are emotionally stunted--- such that interacting (sexually or otherwise) with mature adults is intimidating and unappealing. This would go along with my theory that most pedofiles are sexually abused/scarred as children which may contribute to serious stunting of emotional development.
I feel like predators obviously lack empathy and the capacity to give or receive comfort /community as a result. They only observe what it looks like when people emote ,in their daily lives and criminal activities. They observe and mirror it for several reasons partly to gain access to victims and then this . When they feel the have a need to engage and gain something from it.Whats so telling to me is the indignation that doesn't really quite suite the circumstances and his display of childlike fear .I'm always amazed by their lack of ability to asses when they're done and their bullshit wont fly .I suppose its linked up with brain chemistry and an inability to absorb what reality (consensus /actual)is.
Ive always wondered if it because emotionally they are on the level as a child and maybe that's why they have an attraction to children. Its something I have spent the last few month's looking into. Theres not much out there on the brain function of a predator and they need to do more with studying why. I think they could benefit on finding what part of the brain reacts and how to be able to disable those thoughts and feelings. That way when they get released because most do they won't do it again. They say chemical castration but for some reason I only think that will stop them from being able to have sex. It won't stop them from victimizing kids sexually. Idk how the castration works in relative to sex drive and what not. Again theres not much info on this for the public.
@Debra Jones oh i totally agree. I'm at a point where if you get caught preying on children you get the death sentence. Im not even sure castration would fix it. They'll still have some kind of attraction and they will find a new way to pleasure themselves with it.
Rplover Good conclusion. I believe it is said that there are two main mental states that child predators enter. The first is one of love. They justify their actions to themselves by telling themselves theyāre in love with their victims and that makes everything okay. The other mental state is that they convince themselves that theyāre children or on the same mental level as a child. So In their opinion everything is innocent and okay. Just two children doing what children do
I also think they are wise to their futures. They likely will spend their entire time in solitary.... either because someone found out what they are in for, or to protect them from the get go. They know the kind of people they are.
It isnāt about power with pedophiles. They are actually sexually attracted to kids. And that is why they will never stop. They kill because they donāt want a witness or to get caught and they know what they are doing is not ok.
Rplover yes I believe thatās true. But even though it is, I believe most children go through trauma. When we grow up we have to take responsibility for our actions. Jesus can heal us all. He did it for me.
The hansen vs predator fandom has a few breakdowns of the police interrogation and its similar to this vid. I remember in one, the female interrogator acted like the suspects wife to mess w him. It was cool lol
For real, this pansy has No Readon to Cry like a baby. Heās only crying because he got caught (too bad it wasnāt in the USA), the girl too, deserves just as bad as a punishment.
And Iād love to see them both cry, while theyāre being tortured severely in an American prison. Freaking Sickos! Ugh Pos pisses me off, big time!
I think that, even in their own minds, the reality of doing such terrible things to a child, someone who is inherently defenseless and morally pure, is so horrifying and shocking that on some level they canāt believe itās real.
Like, they know itās evil, and that people get sentenced to life in prison for it, but it actually happening and them actually getting caught is just too surreal for them to really prepare for mentally. And when that illusion is shattered, so are they.
That's kinda why. They prey on children because they are pathetic, weak creatures. If they are faced against an adult, most wouldn't be able to do it. It's why most people when they see them crying and upset feel no sympathy for them. It's a pointless act that they try to use.
Rplover Horrific, but fascinating. And why remedial counselling so desperately needs to be a part of their prison sentence. If theyāre ever to be released, this is absolutely necessary to their rehabilitation.
Psychologists say that some of the most suicidal patients they see are pedos who've been outed. That fall is so complete they are rendered less than infantile.
@Rdwrer I remember reading somewhere that a large percentage of child molesters say they were molested to gain sympathy, then later admit they lied in prison or therapy. I wish I had the source :^/ but to me this makes more sense than people doing the things that hurt them. My grandmother was molested and so was my male cousin, they are so protective and vehemently angry and sad to this day about what happened to them. Not saying people that are molested never go out and do it themselves but it's just never something I've encountered myself.
@spaghetti jpeg I think you have a good point there, though it is so hard to say when a hardened criminal/sick person like a child molester is lying, or when they feel it is most benificial to be manipulative about something like abuse. So many things come into play! Do they feel it is advantageous to tell the truth about their abuse at one point and lie to seem harder later? Do they lie about being abused at all as you say and tell the truth later? Is everything they say a mix of lies and truth? Probably depends on the perp. Really you can't ever really tell if a twisted liar is lying. I know some people who have been molested who are upright and not perverse at all as well; sex abuse happens SO MUCH more often than we know. It's bound to produce some extreme cases, and that's why I feel it's safe to assume that many of these people are perverse due to environmental factors like sex abuse. Abuse and neglect of any kind can deeply and permanently scar some children while others somehow come out ok, able to heal for one reason or another. I personally feel that sex abuse is one of the most heinous things that could ever be perpetrated on a child (anyone, but little ones especially) and it always damages in fundamental ways. I suppose that's why it's very believable that most people who are that sick were harmed terribly as children in one way or another, though they deserve no sympathy as adults who offend, in my view. It simply explains some of the causes of these evil things in our world.
@CrunchyWolf That's interesting, and I think it may be true for some pedofiles, though I feel there is a third state, which is one of a complete, unabashed predator. One who gets excitement from preying on the innocent/helpless simply to satisfy their perverse desires. That one is much harder for us to understand and accept, I think, though it is a reality nonetheless.
@JesusReigns 3:16 I'm glad to hear that about you. Sadly so many will never accept their faults, only living to satisfy their own needs and desires. It is the design of such evil in our world... to spread like cancer starting with the most innocent and vulnerable. But as you say, Jesus can heal and He is King.
@cranberry noodle I can understand that point of view, but as I get more aquainted with our crim. just. system along with DHS child welfare it seems more and more clear that millions of dollars are already being poured into such programs to little or no avail. Early probation in place of serving a full sentence may be a blessing and an important step in one ex con's life, though the statistics indicate so many more take it as a great opportunity to continue their criminal lives with their undeserved freedom. When all violent criminals are treated as rehabilitatable the ones who can con the system do so and get out to terrorize our neighborhoods once again. While I agree with you that rehabilitation is important, I cannot condone the one size fits all/bleeding heart attitude our criminal justice system presently takes on rehabing and releasing so many dangerous felons back into society.
@A CJ Sociopaths cry? Don't make me laugh dude. Please learn about sociopaths a little better. It's all calculated acting, and they surely know better than us, when and how to act.
i've read a lot of books by profilers and they all say the same thing, child predators are into power and control but lack the confidence it takes to confront an adult woman, so they prey on kids. This is why some of them will target both children and the elderly, since both groups are vulnerable physically.
Omg that part was funny af him scoulding the man at the end. saying they have glass cells to make googly eyes just imagine those two idiots with child looking drawn art and googly eyes. they deserve to stay in there XD
For those wondering .yeah he will get PC for a while..eventually it will drive him nuts.he will willingly go to gen pop..when he does it's usually the guards themselves let the cell bosses know what hes in for what he did.and turn their back on him when the time comes..he will get a good clobbering for sure at the least..he will go back to PC and then back to gen pop..my friends dad was a guard in a max sec prison for 30 yrs.he told us many stories about sickos like this.and the guards would make sure they got what they deserved..he said once that it was an obligation to him and his guard pals that freaks like these would have some real hard time.
A lot of places have full chomo units. It depends on the state. Michigan doesnāt even have PC. In some places PC is just a regular unit and not a 24/7 lock down. No idea how it works in Canada but I think heāll have an easier time than if he was in us prisons.
It makes this interrogation SO much sweeter knowing this monster is going through severe opiate withdrawal, while being rapid-fire questioned by the best behavioral science department in the world. Edit Look, let me clarify that I was an addict for two decades and I've been off the needle for over 11 years now. I would never point that out to anyone who is struggling with addiction. But this guy... It's different.
@James Hutson monsters like these deserve far worse than can be inflicted on a mortal body and mind and for that reason alone I hope there is a hell and that it isn't just fire, I want them to live their worst nightmares every waking moment of time allotted to this universe
ā@James Hutson yeeaaa my dad was in max security federal prison in the USA for 23 years (armed robbery, multiple states, stacked charges, casinos and banks, no one ever injured tho [lol except the mental hell my dad put my family through]) and in some of the most notorious prisons with some horrible murderers.... and trust me when I say that for the people who are a child molester or even a person who kills kids without violating them, prison is a very scaryyy place to be (as it should be)
@James Hutson and damn I am glad to be in recovery from heroin and I watched the JCS video the Legend of "Jeff" lol and I felt so bad knowing he was withdrawing, but this guy.... man I hope they didn't even give him some immodium
If that's true, then its only the beginning of his withdrawal. I have went through withdrawal literally hundreds of times (from opiates and benzo`s) and have been clean over 10 years now, but once detox gets bad he would be running to the toilet every 5 minutes, or shitting his pants, so considering he hasn't done that it's just the early stages of withdrawal.
@Jj Dd Iām a 7 year Xanax addict. Quit since November 2018 but relapsed December 2020 (mixed with alcohol) and the withdrawals nearly killed me. Had to go to the ER. Relapsed again on February this year and went to the ER again. Went to rehab after that. Addiction is no joke. I wish I could stop. I havenāt touched benzos but have been taking other substances almost immediately after I got out of rehab. I hate it. Iām exhausted. I want to stop using. š°š°š°
@April feels bad man im sorry and hope you find your way throu that shit. Im a coke user and i cant stop taking it till i waste all my money... everytime...
@Jj Dd I struggled with vicodin addiction for over a decade so i can totally empathize with ya. It took me awhile but i very slowly weaned myself off of it. I hope you can eventually do the same with coke because both can be dangerous. Good luck to you!
I'm currently on a medically supervised opiate taper after being on heavy duty painkillers for 20 years, and oh man, it is ROUGH. Believe me when I say that opiate withdrawal is one of the worst things a person can possibly experience.
Seconds feel like hours. Every last one of your pain receptors is firing on all cylinders, all the time. There isn't even a moment's respite from the constant writhing, vomiting, convulsing, involuntary muscle spasms, fever, and searing pain. Your head feels like it's been split open with an axe. Your face is pouring out fluids, so much so that even if you're lucky enough to fall asleep, you'll just jolt right back awake again in a complete panic as your body thinks you're drowning from all that mucosa filling your airway. And you will exist in that miserabIe state for several weeks, maybe even months.
I was not aware that Michael Rafferty was an opiate addict. I thought he was just dry-heaving and sniffling like that because of anxiety, but let me tell you, I am RELISHING the fact that he's going through all of that.
@Lotek Any tips for me? I'm weaning too, and it's extremely difficult. I'm in the middle of a divorce, my husband moved me overseas and now I have to go fly back to the US with nothing to my name. I don't know if I'll be able to access any of the drug at home, and I am in an utter panic over it. I'm so scared ._.
@Amelia Bee imagine that horror and then imagine youāre being interrogated for killing a kid and the rest of your life will be lived in a glass cage with nobody having any time for you and other inmates trying to kill, maim or blind you. I have no sympathy for this piece of sh but itās like quite amusing to see his world crash down entirely. RIP Tori. Hope you get through the WD mate
@Amelia Bee what's wild to me is, it depends in what environment I was withdrawing in you know? Say if I'm in jail/rehab.. I don't withdrawal as hard because I know I'm not going to get it, and that I can just try to be at ease with that as fast as possible. But say im trying to get clean by myself at my apartment, getting it was s damn phone call away nd a few miles down the roadššš Obviously I would still go through it, mainly restless legs, no appetite, and exhausted but can't sleep, because when I finally close my eyes, I wake up 15 mins later sweating . I hated that shit, where you just JOLT awake and immediate anxiety takes over and your heart starts racing. It's crazy, when I would withdrawal I felt literally hollow, but I could like feel my insides , it's hard to explain. I could just feel everything and I'd get anxiety over everything. I'd be super sensitive to light , especially fluorescent fucking lights idk why but they made me feel worse it's an odd thing. Talking to ANYBODY was a nightmare because I just felt so vulnerable and exposed. The only reprise would be sitting in a warm shower for as long as possible/stretching my achey fucking muscles. God stretching felt so fucking good for just a few seconds. Man, what a terrible thing
@James Hutson hey, i hope this isnāt intrusive... may you please try to describe what withdrawal feels like physically & psychologically? watching youtube videos feels fabricated, iād like to understand the truth š you donāt have to answer if youāre uncomfortable
@Heather McNally you are correct, some of the worst criminals have morals and child abuse is something they dont put up with. I was a PO for 7 yrs and had to help clean one of those vile pos brains off the concrete and the inmate who did it was actually rewarded by the other guards lol usually i would be appalled by behavior like that but when its a child abuser i feel absolutely no empathy. Let me state clearly tho that guards dont turn a blind eye unless there is absolutely no doubt in their guilt. Dna evidence, video footage etc of child abuse is a direct way to make your life absolute hell so if you're one of these pieces of shit dont act on it cuz ull get caught and end up in a prison full of murderers waiting to get their hands on your vile ass. Seg wont save you. Guards work with inmates to ensure you end up where your suppose to be, you have no chance in hell of being protected 24/7 forever.
@April if you have been addicted physically to xanax before, does your body remember and go through withdrawals if you use it even once after that? Im genuinely asking bc from what I'm reading it seems like it's just as addicting as heroin!
@LuxLoose yeah and I hope the me that did it gets the same treatment. Just because it is technically me doesn't mean I need to feel sympathy for them. Kind of a pointless thing to bring up, honestly. I love that theory but when your character diverges that far you can't really consider it you anymore, it's not the same person at all even if you look the same. I get what you're saying, but if you want to talk about that and have people be interested, it's probably not the best move to say, "hey that could be you there who committed these atrocities." Yes and no. Either way, it's just a weird thing to say. It's a bad look.
@LuxLoose I was in a bad mood yesterday, sorry. I am interested in it, just wasn't in the mood at the time and in my head it felt like you were defending a pedophile and murderer by saying it could be anyone. My bad
@James Hutson Supposedly he extorted his mother and grandmother to death. His mom ended up dying at 60 from...heart failure I believe. His grandmother died soon after. His own family wants him to stay in prison forever (depending on thr accuracy of the reports on him and his family)
Thank you for pointing that out! It warms my heart. I've gone through severe opiate withdrawal following surgeries. It is hell. I hope his and that woman both live life and eternity suffering.
@xothobo Have you not read ANY of these comments describing the symptoms? Hands down, you Do. Not. Ever. Ever. Ever. Want to go through a severe or even a minor opiate withdrawal. Life ceases to ever be the same again. Even after the physical withdrawal is over, that's just the beginning.
Been through opiate withdrawal more times than I can count, so I can say, he definitely suffered like he deserved during the interrogation. Back on pain meds, due to intolerable pain, but at least I won't be interrogated by detective talk-a-lot the next time I go through withdrawal, and be facing prison.
As soon as I heard him talking I thought to myself: this sounds local maybe.
Then as soon as I heard him say Guelph it clicked they're Canadians - I live in the same province. It's amazing how I hear an accent in the investigator yet don't speak the same tongue.
@Ryan O'Laughlin, I agree. Also, I understand that there are many regional accents in the UK but to my ears, unless there is a very dramatic difference in the way an individual speaks, it all sounds the same. Australian accents, too. I can't say which region anyone is from based on hearing them speak.
@E G Really? I'm Canadian and I can definitely hear differences between English accents. Unless they're from London, Essex, or Newcastle, I can't identify the regions (and even then I'm iffy) but I can tell that they're not the same. I recently met a lady from northern England (I forget where exactly) who now lives in Canada and she said that when people try to guess where she's from, they never guess England because it sounds different from the London accent we're used to hearing in movies. And then obviously there's also Scotland which sounds very different as well and Wales which I think sounds less different but definitely not the same as a London accent.
@Momera, I can kind of tell the general region with Canadian accents. I think I can at least. Lol I know the "Newfie" accent bc there's a youtuber that speaks that way. And I believe the lightest of Canadian accents is in the west, British Colombia, only bc I hear celebrities from there speak and they sound more neutral. I could probably get lucky and guess at the others. As for the British accents, Liverpool (Liverpudlian?) and Cockney are the only two I can identify right off. The rest sound the same LOL
@E G Australia has a low variance in accents. English accents are fucking bonkers though. Yorkshire to Scouse to Geordie to RP to West Country to Cornish all sound insanely different. American accents has some pretty significant variance but not that much inside that small of a geographical region.
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This isn't a parking ticket. You got that right inspector.
@WeeStrom CO Guy You're not necessarily wrong here. I mean, look at Trump. He's got more than half a century of work experience but still absolutely nothing between the ears. Heck, look at yourself, you know what it takes to run a business but obviously not a clue about what it takes to run a country, so you must know exactly how Trump feels.
@WeeStrom CO Guy Actually, I worked my way through university, working a FT and PT job in addition to a paid teaching assistant job. Then, having graduated magna cum laude, it was not difficult for me to get scholarships and grants to fund my further studies. So, no, I don't have student debt. My work is focused on analyzing disease and trauma in human skeletal remains and has numerous applications, from forensics to medicine to public health. Plus, I get to travel around the world, have access to places that 99.9% of the public will never see, and experience other cultures in a way that vacationers can't even imagine. My life is immensely satisfying, my career is exciting, and I can easily say that I'm living my dream.
@WeeStrom CO Guy Oh, btw, you're commenting on a Criminology video, so if you're looking for career choices for an anthropologist, look no further. Criminology and forensics are certainly two major applications for our body of knowledge.
@WeeStrom CO Guy I was commenting on the pure, hilarious irony of how you yourself pulled the bot card and then immediately tried to make fun of others for doing the same. I would suggest that you read it again but I don't really think that reading comprehension is your issue. I think it's more an overall comprehension problem.
Edit: just noticed you went back and deleted the comment accusing me of being a bot after I called you out on it and this was you trying to pretend it never happened. Pathetic š¤£. Thanks for this convo, it was pure comic gold.
It's scary shit, man. You can gain more experience than most officers, interrogators, and even be better than a lie detector if you stay hard-boiled in the face of the most heinous. Scary shit having to think about what this man has been through, and I don't doubt his claims about experiencing worse.
for real. he didn't mention it in the video, but this is the same interrogated who caught russel williams. there used to be a video on him on this channel but it was taken done for some reason
why did this comment thread turn into political debate. canāt people just have their own opinions and live their lives? god damn. i donāt know why people canāt just respect opposing opinions and go on with their lives, thereās no gain in being hurt by the fact someone likes a political figure you donāt agree with š
@williegates Today I learned that a seed loan of multiple millions of dollars in cash and who knows how much in property, along with years of bailing out by daddy's money counts as "self-made." What a smoothbrained take.
I swear composite sketch artists are some of the most talented people on earth. Itās incredible how well they can put together a persons face just based off some fuzzy footage or some vague descriptions.
Itās sad that they might be phased out by breakthroughs in the technology of genetics. They can make your face based off of a single piece of DNA evidence. Maybe use sketch artists and this technology in concert š¤ because I agree they are brilliant.
I agree. Theres a case close to me. The Delphi,IN murders of Libby & Abby. Its been 4 years!:( one of the girls was sharp & took a video & audio of their killer. But still..no arrest:/ check the case out. Unfortunately the sketches are way 2 different ones. One is older one is younger. The man in the video doesnt look young. Check it out and lmk what you think. Blessings & stay safe my friend ā”
@Native American Feather i heard about that case!! apparently, there was this guy who got arrested for keeping a girl in his basement and many people suspect he could've been the guy in the photo. he had a tiktok account so he spoke a lot, and i saw people trying to analyze his voice with the voice from the audio recording, and it sounded so similar in my opinion...
Favorite quotes: "This isn't some to-do list, this is much more serious than that." "Okay??" "You can barely eat or drink, you haven't touched your donut." Dyingš
Americas new law is guilty til proven innocent, trial by media. Thatās why we ask for her a lawyer present before talking. Thank God this guy talked so her family can have closure knowing this monster will rot in jail
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Just watched that video. He killed it. Insane he was able to get that kind of confession in less than an hour. Thatās insanely impressive, he is a master in his craft for sure
I don't think there's any job in the world I would find more difficult to do than his. Even the bad cop in this case, what an insane talent. Its like acting, except your mistakes can permanently ruin lives and the entire time you just want to throw up from disgust.
enkibumbu I think he mistook 'conscience' for 'conscientiousness.' Russel Williams was a very conscientious man, hence how he was manipulated into a confession. The detective used his sense of 'communal good' against him. He made him believe that confessing was for the benefit of the community and his wife. He had no empathy for his victims, however - a conscience.
Some say Jim is so good at this because he spends all of his time practicing interrogation and none of the time at the pool. That's why Jim can't swim. ;)
@Andrew Lion What is "shmeeda?" I began using "AF" until my 35 year old son saw a post I made. My son said, "Don't use letters you don't know what they stand for. For the love of God, mom." smh :(
@James Chebahtah Actually the Russell Williams interrogation was about 10 hours. Williams finally confessed at about 5 or 6 hours if I remember correctly and then recounted the crimes. Only 2 hours and 56 minutes of the entire 10 hours were released. Did you not notice that some parts jumped and some didn't make sense?
The detective said we all make mistakes. That may be true. But raping and killing an 8-year-old little girl is not a mistake. May God bless the little Tori and her family.
@Lulu MariĀ I actually do. It's just painful to listen to sometimes. As far as the tactics the detectives have to use to get a confession out of these people, let's not miss the big picture here. A little girl was brutalized and discarded like trash by a heartless monster. So please forgive me if I came across so emotional.
Heās gonna puke when he thinks itās gonna get him out of the situation but not so much as a gag when he whips out the bucket and says āIāve seen worse, go aheadā
Persecution during an interrogation doesn't get confession leading to more money being spent bringig cases to trial and lower conviction rates. When they realise they aint getting any confession from rafferty thats when they open up on him
We give our child murderers haggis here in Scotland if they don't tell us what happened. No need for the death penalty. It has a 99.9% success rate š
Mexico is also pretty easy on people. My ex stabbed his cousin to death went back to Mexico to visit family. The police snatched him up said "its been 15 years, you need to do your time" He did his time for 1 year. Granted it was self defense but the judge asked everyone who seen it at the time to sign a letter he wrote about what happened. They did. He got out. Now yes it was self defense but he kept stabbing him after he was dead. I didn't know this til after I was with him for 4 years. He had PTSD from it. He finally told me. But still.. 1 year. He never hurt me but still. It's in there. You know.
@Invincible Beauty I really hope you aren't with him anymore, sounds dangerous... Overkill, I would have a hard time killing someone even in self defense but to go into a rage and just keep stabbing that's scary
Donāt forget offering food, assuring multiple times theres nothing wrong with eating, and then when he sayd he wants food just leaving the room for an hour
@terpinhawgin666 it's the bit that Timmy H's was going to throw away. The cold tea, the one last mangled packet of sugar. The plain, stale, hard doughnut. Them bitches were cold with that tactic. Cold as ice.
@Jen K a while ago everyone was saying 'ironically' that they wanted to die/kill themselves so I believe it's related to that. u know people these days just don't want to live anymore
0123 9547 Thatās just incredibly sad... I donāt even know what to say. I canāt even imagine having to grow up in these times with the internet Iāll give you that. I really wish school systems would integrate free counselling. It gets better, I promise. Once youāre an adult you get to choose your life. Hang in there! Thatās still a lot different from telling someone else to do it though. Saying it to yourself is low self esteem. Saying it to others is bullying. Both are sad but you donāt have the right to try to put your sadness or self hatred onto others. Get help and focus on the only thing you have control over...YOU!
@Patrick L if only it really was torture. His case maybe, but a cop killer gets celebrity status and treated with nothing but respect by their peers. It's sad and hard to discern who will actually get what they deserve.
@Jen K you were nagging and lecturing men on another video. Seriously, lady, go get a life and control yourself. Stop trying to control total strangers on the internet.
@OCS DEVIL DOG Because you need a legal process/trial to determine there is INDISPUTABLE evidence. I know it is tempting. But you gotta dot the i's and cross to t's if you want to live civilization. It can slip into a vigilante cycle fast.
Thats when its good to be a king of improvising......sugar on the donut and dunk that joint in the tea! Then tell the cop to Rub It On Your Chest (RIOYC)
@Dawn Wride oh, I haven't seen too many interrogations, but the OPP kill it in the two that I watched (Russell Williams, and this guy). True detectives.
@You Wish You bet, plus they know that the murderer stopped and bought a tea and doughnuts from Tim Horton's while he had Tory in the car on their drive to the murder site. They're not doing this to be nice, they're doing this to mess with his head and get him rattled to confess
@Jen Dark Energy 384400 Hahaha. You taught me something! I just had to look up haggis. Yum. Not. I see why y'all would feed them that for torture! Lmao
@Erin Rae Haha! Yeah. Some people love it, some hate it. As a previous comment said it's actually not bad tasting it tastes nice, if you can get over what it's made from, which I simply cannot. š If you liked learning about haggis I encourage you to Google 'Black Pudding' too..šHave fun with that. Lol
@Stoic Observer Yeah it tastes nice I'm a cook here in Scotland so I used to prepare it alot, just not my thing. 'Awful' as these foods are called are enquired taste delicacies. Thank you for being open minded about our national dish šsorry I just seen you had replied to me.
@OCS DEVIL DOG due process is for everyone. Even the most heinous people. There's a reason we have systems such as this instead of lynchings and burning at the stake.
@lt x The police brutality in Saudi Arabia is far worse, or any other Islamic country. You know, where you get tortured for being gay. And women get stoned for showing their ankles. So called "police brutality" in America is EXTROIDINARILY uncommon, and the fact that people believe it's some kind of "epidemic" goes to show how much influence the American media has.
A Krispy without glaze and cream. I can handle that but the tea with only one spoon full of sugar would be torture for me lol. But this sicko deserve alot more than that.
@Jen Dark Energy 384400 Making inmates eat haggis is crueler than a death sentence lol! Although, some state prisons here in the USA give the misbehaving inmates something called Nutraloaf. It is basically extremely bland over cooked meatloaf with no gravy. Itās not that bad the first few meals but some guys that are habitually breaking rules eat it everyday, every meal for months. They only get water to drink with it too which makes it extra bland. (My source is many of my family members work/worked as corrections officers in a county jail and they get a lot of inmates that come back from state prison during their court appeals and deputies that used to be state prison guards)
@Invincible Beauty America is notorious for police brutality, long sentences, and most jurisdictions turn a blind eye to torture for confessions. All this 'tough on crime' pretense is meaningless, given the massive rates of crime compared to countries with so-called 'softer' approaches to crime. One big difference is, everyone is considered human in other countries. As for your story: did you go to the police?
@lt x Yes, Canadian police are ultra aggressive. I lived in Amsterdam, Holland for about 4 years. The police there are very laid back. Even if you say things to hurt their feelings they dont beat you up!
@OCS DEVIL DOG It's because most of us Are humans; maybe ignorant of the evil out there, maybe too selfish with our own lives to give concern about things that happen to "other people"...........theres very few of us capable of being face shooting equalizer !
@OCS DEVIL DOG As a Canadian I agree that sometimes the murderers get off easy but in this situation Being polite to him was to help fulfil a purpose of getting more information from him
@Cheyenne MacPhail I do think our government is too kind to murderers but the death penalty has gotten a lot of innocent people killed, if we had no reasonable doubt or the person was seen commitingthe crime I would be for it however.
@OCS DEVIL DOG I knew a manager who had a friend that slashed a cab driver with a machete and only got like 3-5 years. The dude is out too and taking cabs still....
@Glen Quagmire I, sir, will also stand beside you in battle! If I may be so bold, your duty will be to cordially ask the enemy for permission to engage (at their earliest possible convenience, of course, provided they can fit us into their schedule) and I'll be in charge of apologizing to the enemy for potentially disrupting their daily schedule. This is war against liberals, man! We fight decency and logic with decency and...um...logic! And if things get truly ugly, rest assured, they could potentially receive a tersely worded email! But, let's not threaten that quite yet!
Yes, the most fascinating part about a case where a fully grown man bashes a 6 year olds cranium in with a claw hammer. After raping the thing first of course. But DAMN, a donut without glaze? That's just cruel.
Shoot Right Here I agree we should not kill criminals even if they are convicted 100% in my opinion we should make jail a living hell for them so that they font ā enjoyā a single second of their live anymore
Yeah unless you are an aboriginal person, and if you were an aboriginal woman, you better really watch out thats all i gotta say ( sorry im so depressing but its frustrating to me that everyone thinks canada is just maple syrup and rainbows because its not canada wouldnt be here without the millions of murdered native people from first contact to residential school to now, which wasnt very long ago) anyways yeah sorry thats not important for this video cause its so sad but just incase anyone wants to look up other sad stuff, your welcome in that case.
2) You're looking at police misconduct (even sarcastic ones like the OP's comment) through the lens of this case. The issue arises when actual police brutality occurs to mere suspects (yes, technically Rafferty was only suspected too - but, yeah, nearly irrefutable evidence and all) or to innocent bystanders.
3) So everyone who's brutalized by LE is necessarily a "Crim"? Your standards of evidence are exceedingly low and you must reject legal standards of presumed innocence and due process. Good on you, you draconian sociopath.
Pardon me, did you just say something to me eh? I'll have you know I graduated at the top of my class in the Canadian Politeness Force, and I've been involved in numerous secret runs to Tim Hortons, and I have over 300 confirmed friends. I am trained in welcoming warfare and am the most passive aggressive member of the entire canadian population. You are a person that I have yet to make friends with. I will talk to you with kindness the likes of which have never been seen before on this earth, mark my passiveness. You think you can get away with not saying thank you? Think again, neighbour. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of syrup drinking penguins across the northern territories and your IP is being traced so you better prepare for the gift baskets, buddy.
@OCS DEVIL DOG too kind. Do exactly to them as they do to their victims
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Michael Evans2020-08-28 12:08:48 (edited 2020-08-28 12:10:38 )
That kind of torture sounds horrible and it must be hard for a criminal to endure it. Canadian police are devious. Tea not sweetened enough and unglazed donuts, I shudder at the thought of it.
@David Parry that's a bold face lie they'd never go that low to torturer someone like that with cold coffee? Next you'll say 0 cream and 0 sugar haha could u imagine
Lmfao ya that was my first thought like ya.. he didnt eat the doughnut because its fucking plain. Put a Boston creme or cruller and then see. There is actually temptation. And why tea? Not a double double? They started all wrong. (But seriously this case still hits everyone to this day!)
@Rainbow Unicorn Gamer you've never eaten hot dogs with no buns? Ok richy rich (just a sarcastic joke no offense needed... i seen earlier comments lol)
@Jen K are you Canadian? Just saw your comments on having councilors in school. And its starting. We always had teachers as councilors but schools are bringing in trained psychologist (i think they are) into school districts. So idk if its once a week at a school. On call or how you get the help, my sons only jk but my neice used the help at her school.
@OCS DEVIL DOG We can only pick the brains of existing specimens while they're vulnerable enough to share. They're dying to get a straight answer out of at least one of these monsters. This is their one shot at gathering data, and every move is very calculated. Once he's already in the system, he has nothing to lose and no leverage is incentive enough to talk. At least here, he can be given a false sense of hope that he might get off the hook slightly and spill his guts before he faces trial. After that, no more honey crullers.
@Peni Parker He's more than likely to get brutally murdered in prison. Those people don't take kindly to child and women murders, and rape. That's why they tend to keep those individuals separate from the regular inmates in the prison.
Itās used to lure the suspect into a false sense of security and comfort so they open up to the point that the detectives can put their foot in the door and get the truth
I love when they began the āMutt and Jeffā technique. Good cop, bad cop - my ass. Itās polite cop, slightly less polite cop. Canadian interrogators are politely badass.
@OCS DEVIL DOG Because there is no such thing as indisputable evidence, you just can't know for sure, sooner or later a cop lied, a man was tortured into confession, a videotape was faked, or the circumstances lined up in a way that makes it seem impossible that an innocent suspect didn't do it.
There's no way to define "indisputable evidence" and sooner or later, if it keeps going long enough, your society will have murdered an innocent person.
That's not something I ever want to be possible in a society I live in.
@OCS DEVIL DOG Due process in the court of law. They did their best to expedite that process with an admission of guilt, but otherwise it must go through the process regardless of the crime
@OCS DEVIL DOG in theory that works, but ive seen soooo many true crime videos where the police have never solved the crime due to just terrible police work or arrested the wrong person - even destroying evidence that doesnt fit with their suspect - just so they can close the case. Or they use racial prejudice, in those instances as well. Plus, theyve fabricated evidence in cases too. If we could trust the police when it came to this sort of thing, to have the goal of finding the truth and the real suspects and perpetrators, then the death penalty could work. And we often take what the police and justice system say at their word. But there is evidence that 4% of people on death row in the united states are innocent. Putting innocent people to death is worse than wrong.
@D.I.Y Ninja Yea they treat these criminals too good. Itās like oh hey you killed someone? What would you like from Starbucks gimme a break , GTFOH š
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We see normal citizens in interrogations about CP but we dont see many videos of the more high flying people in interrogations. However we know there are many...
I cannot believe the complete lack of responsibility and disengaged attitude from this monster ....talk about narcisstic, me- not - here demeanor and non humanity this demon on earth exhibits.
Promising to show an 8 year a puppy and then leading her to her demise is one of the most sickening things a human being can do. I hope she got the same sentence
Everyone Remember to tell your kids, the stranger isn't always a creepy guy in a van. There's been many kidnapping cases were the predator employee other young children, because stranger danger doesn't apply to kids.
@Alex Resa exactly. Stereotypes arenāt what they seem. This 18-19 year old girl went into the school and instead of it being some weirdo in a van offering candy... she was offering to show a puppy. Thatās just so fucked up.
If you think what they both did is the exact same thing, I am concerned. Big difference between leading someone to a van, and being he person killing em with your bare hands and assaulting them. You think both actions are jus as easy? Seek help before you hurt someone.
@Jonny Akster If you donāt think someone who lured an 8 year old girl to her rape and murder doesnāt deserve life in prison then thereās something wrong with you bud. Itās just as bad. That little girl trusted her
Yeah, it's a really weird, unfortunate situation. Like, she didn't know his exact intentions... But also, why does a full grown man request you find and abduct a child of NOT to rape at the very least? He bribed her with the promise of drugs, which is also sad, because addiction is crippling and it drives people to do crazy shit... But at the same time SHE HANDED OVER A CHILD SHE ABDUCTED TO A FULL GROWN MAN!!! Idk. Trying to play devil's advocate and ask "okay, but what if" to so many details of this whole scenario to figure out if she really deserved the same sentence he did. Honestly, I think she didn't. I don't know much about sentencing in Canada, but I think she deserved at least 40 years. He definitely deserved life since he was the one to assault and kill and lie and evade police.. She was just an accomplice (and by just, I don't meant to minimize what she did... I just mean that her addiction should've also been factored into her sentence). So, should she have gotten life too? No. But she should've had to gone the rest of her life under drug counseling and parole.
@Alicia Dutrow I mean Iām an addict and I couldnāt imagine in my worse nightmares doing something so evil to a child. Itās so fucking upsetting to know people like that are walking the streets. I wouldnāt care if he was promising me the highest quality dope, I would never ever think about hurting someone for it especially a innocent baby girl
@Alicia Dutrow I agree. What she did was very very fucked, but I donāt think she deserved life. She was 18. It is always tricky with sentencing but helping someone kidnap is not the same crime as rape or murder.
@Jonny Akster Although she did not rape and kill the child, Terri knew that was EXACTLY what MR intended to do. She is equally guilty.She may not have done the attack, but she helped aide him in helping it happen. Equally guilty.
@Jonny Akster Luring someone to another person to be killed is being an accomplice/accessory to murder and usually pulls similar prison terms; In some places, it's just flat out lumped in with murder whether you are the murderer or not. She stood there and let him kill her after SHE lured the child. She knew a child would be more willing to trust her and she abused that trust. She's just as guilty and depraved. She's also a sexual predator. They both participated in the murder, they both should get the punishment.
@Send Me Location Yeah luring a child to a killer for the purposes of killing the child is just as bad as the murder itself. Most states would serve them the same time, at least in the US. I have no idea why Incubi is downplaying the actions of these monsters. This wasn't stealing a candy bar or a purse, this was a cold, calculated and premeditated murder of an innocent child who trusted those depraved psychopaths. Children can't discern deceit and they shouldn't have to worry about being killed by sexual predators. It's just saddening to say the least.
@Ren C the saddest part is that the little girl trusted Terry Lynn. Then they got to the car and she saw Michael and she just shoved the little girl in the car. Itās really messed up. This happened in Canada but this is beyond sickening. I donāt understand why people would think she deserves a lesser sentence. Sheās the reason that girl is dead. Michael couldnāt have walked into that school hunting down children
@Send Me Location It's devastating to know that little girl trusted Terry Lynn to guard her when he was hurting her, only to be met with the reality that she had no one to help her. Terry Lynn played the lure and that's every bit as disgusting as Michael to me. I see that the court must have agreed with us as they both got the sentences they deserved. To abuse the trust of a child is extremely evil to me; they don't have the ability to see through manipulation or deceit. Hell, it's difficult for adults but at least we have a chance. Kids don't have that, and for these two monsters to abuse that is just disgusting. They're depraved sexual predators. Terry Lynn could have easily decided to not lure anyone. I could never lure a child to be murdered, no matter what threats were made. It's just unthinkable. Terry had every opportunity to turn Michael in to police prior to luring that little girl.
@Kathleen L No disrespect at all, but I see it as, if she hadnāt played her part and lured that child to that monster then she would probably be alive. To me she is just as guilty as him. š¤·š¼āāļø
@Jonny Akster She definitely deserves the same sentence. She led that little girl to her death, she may not be the killer, but she sure is responsible.
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Victor Nieves2021-07-05 00:57:38 (edited 2021-07-05 00:59:04 )
@Alicia Dutrow She knew his intentions, she just didnāt care. If someone is trying to bribe you to assist in the kidnapping of a child, common sense is that, that person has malicious intentions.
@Victor Nieves I donāt agree she deserves another chance at life. She expressed obvious guilt and confessed to everything and is why that girl is getting justice at all
It doesnāt matter how guilty she feels, she assisted in the kidnapping, raping, and murder of an 8 year old child. She deserves to be in a cage with all of the other rapists and murders. Every time something like this happens, the women always cry, point the finger at their partner, and bring out the sob stories, and people eat it right up. Iām not. The only reason why she expressed āGuilt,ā is because she was trying to get sympathy because she knew she was caught. Her guilt didnāt stop her from luring the kid, kidnapping the kid, watching the kid be raped, and then murdering the kid.
@Victor Nieves thatās the problem tho. She didnāt rape or kill anyone at the end of the day. She assisted in that crime. She got life in jail so ultimately you get what you want. She was an addict straight out of high school with a psycho abusive 28 year old boyfriend. I donāt agree that she deserved the same punishment, but also Iām not a lawyer or a judge. Just my opinion.
@Jonny Akster dude she was there the entire time that he did everything to that poor little girl AFTER she lured Tori into the car. She went for a walk while he raped and murdered a child and then helped him dispose of evidence. She may not have swung the hammer, but she is just as guilty and the fact that you don't see that is concerning
I want to know where the kids mom was when they took her from a freaking Home Depot? Young children should be glued to you where ever you go. You donāt see any animal in nature not being around their children.
It's a little unclear, but it seems that she got a stricter punishment than he did. He's eligible for parole after 25 years, but I don't think she is. Public opinion might have played a big part in that, because she jerked around the police for quite a while after, trying to get lenience if she led them to her body, which she didn't. She took them on a goose chase around rural Ontario basically going 'Oh, she's in this ditch. No, maybe she's in this one.' So they didn't find her body for months.
@Kathleen L oh you think theyāre weird for wanting to protect their kids. This happened in Canada. When cases like this happen in the US they will DIE in prison. Cali level 4 yards have a green light on ANY person with fucked up charges. This includes crimes against children, sexual assaults and even kidnapping.
Take a second and think about it. They both got life. Did she deserve the same sentence? Absofuckinglutely. Neither of them deserve to see the light of day again.
š„ love of animalsā¦ LESSON: to always teach our children that no stranger can lure them by PUPPIES, KITTENS, and anything and evyin between. i hate these mosters for manipulations to the extent of āyour parents are in the hospitalā so poor young victim has no choice but to PANIC AND FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS.
Is that detective who came in at 33:33 the same guy who interrogated the Canadian colonel Russell Williams? Sounds exactly the same, aside from his bad cop persona, which he didn't really utilize in that interrogation. Not to this degree, anyway.
it is common for parents to come under suspicion when a child goes missing. unfortunately, they are often responsible (casey anthony for example). but my heart goes out to all the innocent parents who were suspected by not just the police, but their own community. i canāt imagine the pain of not just having a missing child, but having everyone believe you were responsible.
Sir Hamalot2021-04-06 20:16:16 (edited 2021-04-06 20:29:39 )
Can you imagine this guy's with his wife? "Ok, you made a mistake, we all make mistakes. What's important now is that you tell me your side of the story about the burnt meatloaf. I've seen burnt meatloaves before. You're not going to offend me. We just need to know, in your own words, how it happened."
Why did he talk so much? I am not native English speaker. What was his job exactly? Was it form of passive torture? Or was he investigating and what was he investigating if they already know everything?
@HH the job of this investigator is to understand the suspectās character, then use that information to make sense of the suspectās responses and decision making. i believe that this interrogation can also serve as a way for the suspect to just come out and say that he did it also
@HHĀ the narrator says at 18:10 : when the investigator is talking, it is harder for the suspect to formulate lies. it's to mentally exhaust them and break down their defences.
I don t think you are a monster if i think i will say , you are a monster or you make a mistake , answer me Wife . If you can go back in time you will do the same thing ?
@HH he's trying to establish trust and make a good impression so he'll talk if they need him to. Also talking so much will break him down and annoy him.
@HH Basically, his main goal on this interview is trying to dig as much as he can from the suspect for the purpose of "criminal profilling." To better understand the case and for future reference. They already know what happened and have sufficient evidence to proceed, so "confession" is no longer important or priority.
@Bryan Snapp I think thatās clever, once you make a statement and say āokay?ā And the other person doesnāt disagree, they pretty much agree and acknowledge that statement to be true. They donāt have to verbally acknowledge but by not disagreeing when you ask āokay?ā it affects their position on the issue, now they feel like they missed their chance to disagree, now they feel like they have agreed to it. He also doesnāt give them enough time to actually respond so theyāre agreeing to things before they have time to process them and come up with a lie. Pretty cool!
@HH They have to act like they donāt know anything in order to get the criminal to lie about it, or to confess completely. Anything he lies about makes his defense less credible in court.
Not so savage. A lot of idiots feel that psychopathy is something to be proud of. Call Rafferty a āpedophileā (which he more obviously is) and thatād sting a lot more within our ridiculous value structure.
@DjAmaratzi I thought that the difference between sociopaths and psychopaths was that sociopaths lack empathy, while psychopaths do feel empathy, but they are sadistic, i.e. derive pleasure from the suffering of others.
@somexp12 You donāt need to have acted on it to get the diagnosis. Most of us are not evil killers. However generally most get the diagnosis when incarcerated but generally just for small crimes like drug charges or assault etc. itās a relative small portion of ASPD people that are actually evil murders. Most of us are successful and works in high paying or powerful jobs.
@Webster91 Not sure if that counts. I certainly havenāt cried over getting in trouble or anything like that. But there are different degrees to it of course. But I could go out now and kill someone, get caught and you wouldnāt see me crying over it. I wouldnāt even regret it, wouldnāt care.
Get that blanket off him it's driving me crazy I think these preditors should be handed over to the parents for an hour before the interview to give them a bit of attitude adjustment psychopath
I cried when I googled more about Tori Stafford. There was a particular part describing when they found the body, she was wearing a Hannah Montana tee and butterfly earrings... so much innocence completely violated that day it breaks my heart into a million pieces. RIP Tori, you didn't deserve what happened to you.
Yeah these things are always very difficult to find out about. I remember in the autopsy report on the Watts victims, how one of the little girls pyjamas were described.. š It just somehow makes it feel more real. Cause it really is quite unbelievable that these things happen..
It saddens me profusely that Tori was doing a good deed by remembering her mothers earrings, and running back in to bring joy to her mother, only to be brought to a monster. How sickening is it that her good deed was met with a negative outcome. Sorry sick bastard will rot in hell, and so will all people who harm a child filled with innocence.
It's disgusting - cases like this make me feel physically sick. Same with the Chris Watts case. There's some absolute horrible bastards in the world, there really is.
That woman couldāve stopped it all and couldāve saved Tori when she called for help but she chose to turn away and take a walk and that really fucks with me, sheās not any less of a monster than him. Thank god she didnāt get a lesser sentence for admitting to everything and ratting him out.
Regardless, what kind of woman sits there and is asked by a grown man to get a stranger little girl and goes through with it? I highly doubt she thought getting some random little girl for him meant he going to take her out to the park to play tag. She knew damn well what was going to happen and happily participated without a gun to her head.
@M. G did the woman ever say what her motivation was for doing this? I understand the man's motivation, he is sexually attracted to children. But the woman wasn't involved in the act of the sexual assault, so what did she get out of it? Was he paying her? Or giving her drugs?
@kmdn1 i mean he was 28 and she was 18, he probably groomed her to be as accommodating as possible. Not her fault, but her responsibility. Such a fucked situation
It actually came out later that she was a verrrrry active participant in everything and played the "he made me do it" card to look sympathetic. Since then, audio recordings showing just how violent and uncaring she was came out
(aka, she wasn't groomed as everyone thought. She played the investigators and the public to think that she was a poor 18 year old led astray when really she also is just sick)
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@G. Salem I get where youāre coming from, but the āmaybe she was groomedā train of thought only goes so far. Being groomed doesnāt alleviate any blame for anyone when they help commit a crime just as we donāt give criminals a pass when they had a rough childhood as humans in the modern era (no matter how theyāre raised) still know the concept of doing harm to another as being bad, so no ā¦ she is to blame and she does hold responsibility for this act being committed just as much as the disgusting man. Grooming or not.
Reading through the comments, it does seem more likely that she was a participant and the crying and acting like a victim is just a manipulation tactic. Her being the one to take the child seems like her being the instigator of the situation. She seems to be the controller of the whole thing from this alone.
Tbf, she was only 18. There was most certainly a power imbalance between her and Michael and it's likely that she was being manipulated. I have absolutely no issue with her serving the same sentence, however I doubt she would've committed the crime on her own, whereas I'm not sure the same could be said for Michael.
i will never ever understand women who allow grown men to do this shit to kids, to their own kids even. like im gonna be real and say that a good portion of us have experienced some trauma like this in our lives (less severe obviously) and even if we havent, we have that fear. so i cannot for the life of me understand why you could ever let someone sexually abuse a kid. i dont get it.
obviously its one thing for a predator to do it, but that shit stings a little more. like she needed you and you just walked away, completely unsympathetic to a plight you know very well. what the hell?
@Isabel she isn't worse then him yes she is a terrible human and deserves the worst however we shouldn't be down playing what the man did to the little girl and how he made that little girl feel, both ppl are terrible but one is worse than the other
@M. G i agree with your statement. I do have a question though just generally, in the event someone has a gun to say your childs head. And in turn for your kid. You must get the person another kid. What would that yield? Because if you bring police, your kids dead, but if you bring a kid, the other dies and yours is fine.... its super moral based and rough situation
@G. Salem I was going to reply to you and the few people defending this sick woman, then I remebered that you're all probably suffering in life from things I don't want to mention here. Which calmed my boiled blood down a little bit.
@Adam Craig exactly is woman have to support and be there for one another we have to stay together for each other and she is a disgrace to women everywhere
@The emo user i mean, I know biology. And I know exactly what men expect and desire in women. Its certainly not some unstable, red haired feminist that hates children. You give off crazy cat lady vibes lol.
@The emo user that's cool. But most women have innate maternal instincts. Just because you're the outlier doesn't make it true. And you're also a monster considering you said you would get rid of any child you would carry.
@Adam Craig Iām not ment to be a mother at all Yes Iām a woman but Iām a horrible mother my mom was a horrible person and my grandmother was a bad mother I have no means to be a Mom the kids are better off not having me as a mom
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The emo user2021-09-13 23:48:58 (edited 2021-09-13 23:49:50 )
@Adam Craig Iām not a good person to be a mom Iām a drug addict and an alcoholic and Iām not really good at it all and honestly I am a woman but I have no idea how to do anything my mom was a horrible person and so was her mom so I think that itās better for me not to have kids because I donāt know how to be a good mom I have bad examples of mothers yes sometimes women are good at being a mom but they have to be taught I was never taught to be a good person I was left to raise myself so no I donāt think itās best for me to be a mom no matter how much I want a child
@Adam Craig I have bipolar disorder and ADHD and PTSD and fetal alcohol syndrome I take medication at night to sleep if I had a child I would never be able to wake up at night to comfort that child because Iām so drugged up on my bipolar meds and sleep medicine to get up also I have I have severe mental depression if I get depressed I sleep and I donāt wake up
i dont agree, if you dont know how to act in this situation and if the person have a weapon, you may put yourself in danger and you both would be harmed, she should had called for police if she couldnt help but yes she must be punished too
@That's What I Said no one is blaming the woman for what the man did. we are blaming her for being a bystander/participant in a crime tho. which she objectively was.
āIf you ask me why Iām sitting in this room, Iām sitting in this room for Tori. Making you squirm. Putting you through some of the grief that you put her through. Thatās why Iām in here, Mike. And Iām having a good time.ā
Not only are people who harm the innocent and vulnerable by default condemned to eternal damnation, but also the person who has told at least one lie. No one is perfect, all are going to hell if they do not have Jesus Christ.
@Big Terry of Munro "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8)
She can't rest, she's dead. A dead person cannot care anything, much less whether they are forgotten or not. He was not a "creature," he was a human, just like you and me. Does that make you uneasy? There is no eternal damnation, but seriously, that's your idea of what should happen to people? How disgustingly vengeful. So basically, if you really do care, offer your time or money to help prevent this sort of thing in the future. Don't post some random "feel good about yourself because you care" BS.
@Sufian Ahmed its probably delivered hope to many millions of desperate people in this world that is full of selfish cruel and disgusting (people) here is a prime example of the filth amongst us ....we are so weak within we dread being a real good soul because you'll probably be desperate?
@Paul Lombardo Youre not providing the best witness for Christ by comparing child assault and murder to a little lie.
Im an Athiest now, I used to be a Christian missionary, its BS like this that turns people off. Some crimes are worse than others. Some sins are worse than others.
Even Christ would think that. Some things drove Christ to anger and physical action, some sins brought Christ to a calm discussion.
@Paul Lombardo As a fellow true believer Paul. This is not the time nor the place.
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@Paul Lombardo Iām a Christian and people who talk like you ruin it for so many people. Including those who might be willing to open their hearts to Jesus. Chill out and relax.
@Paul Lombardo hereās a question, Iām gay and have lied before, and also I have the very human emotion of fear, Iām going to hell for that right?
@Paul Lombardo This right here. Declaring condemnation on others means you bring it on yourself. A real loving attitude is praying these people know Jesus because the abominable things you've done were forgiven by him.
If we all got what we deserved none of us would like it.
@Paul Lombardo you don't seem to know much about Jesus Christ and his teachings of forgiveness. You are quoting revelations, which was written by a man that had never met Jesus. He was not an apostle.
@Jaren Rivera captain obvious here. Yeah it's well known it was a different detective dummy, why do you think he made the statement about how bad American police are..... right over your head my friend.
@Jon_Hydro_Labs some people just cant comprehend sarcasm lol I got what you meant pretty quickly and thought it was funny as was the OP. You're better off just not feeding the trolls brother.
@Jon_Hydro_Labs I try. Lifes too short to be serious all the time. I dont go on YouTube to pick fights like the majority of people lol I'm just here to have a good time.
It's pretty standard practice in America for detectives to get a meal for the accused. This doesn't reflect on sympathy but rather creates a sense of obligation and debt towards the cops.
@Jaren Rivera if you have to be told that someone's being sarcastic rather than being able to see that they are obviously being sarcastic, you must not have a good sense of humor.
Iām pretty sure heās aware this detective is Canadian which is why he was saying the American police are bad because Jeff didnāt get the butterfinger while this guy got donut, a blanket, a tea, a Luke bucket š
The American police are the best ones :) they also have some shitty ones, but considering all the police all over the world Iād rather have my American police than literally any other :P
@Reheat The Pasta I agree. I have travelled a bit. American cops take a lot of crap other countries' don't. Also, while I read your post I am eating reheated pasta from last night's dinner. lol
TheInstigator lol :) noice ! I do appreciate the reheated leftovers~ those who forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.
And yes I would never say all American police are amazing or good people, but I think only an idiot wouldnāt deny the good most American police officers do. Keep the public safe, and now theyāre being targeted even off duty because of this narrative that doesnāt apply to the uniform. Just to those who abuse their power and it isnāt only the police that are unjust. Itās the media, and itās the behavior of some persons. You want to duke it out? Do it in court. Not with the officer.
One thing Jeff and mike had in common is they were both in the early stages of withdrawal. Thatās the only thing in common because Jeff is an American anti hero š¬ š¦øāāļø
More likely it was precisely because Jeff was a less serious case. Giving suspects food accomplishes 2 things: 1. It creates a sense of obligation. When you do a favor for a suspect, they usually will feel some sense of obligation (if only unconscious). Makes them more willing to talk. 2. Itās more difficult to fight and eat at the same time than to fight while fasted.
Itās all part of a whole constellation of techniques to increase the probability of confession.
#1 gets brought up a lot in these kind of videos. Canāt recall where i heard it, but I did hear it more than once.
13:07"It's always interesting to examine a suspect's demeanor while being interrogated, especially compared to how they most likely were while committing their violation. The suspect here is a quivering mess, acting like a helpless victim, wallowing in his own self-pity while vying for sympathy; essentially the opposite to how he was while attacking Tori Stafford. It's ironic that the powerless and vulnerable complexion he is trying to portray here, is exactly what his victim would have felt at the time she was attacked." Wow.
@tiffany young mind boggling. I cant believe this story. This is demonic type stuff, evil of the evilist if that makes sense Just cant put my mind around this, kinda wish i didnt stumble across this. Disturbing. Cant imagine what her family went through.
Truly horrific. JCS is one of the best channels, near perf cr in every category. The script and writing, the research, the professional experience, even the narrator is perfect for his role. It's dead serious, yet always entertaining, and the very few times humour is shown it's respectful and impactful in its use. Top tier content, I would love to see them on Netflix, but I'd also be worried it would mess with the formula they've perfected.
what i don't get is how people are against the death penalty for crimes like this, there is no rehabilitating someone like this. in the UK the guys who killed Jamie Bulger got out 20 years later and within a month they were caught looking at indecent images of children, Even if a nonce got out at age 75 they could still over power a child mentally and physically. i know not every crime deserves the death penalty but this type of crime does 100% IMO. nobody wants them rehabilitated, no one wants them back in society, and no one wants to take the risk of letting them re-enter society. And i've heard in the US it costs $12,500 per year to keep a prisoner in general population but $60,000 to keep in solitary. A one death penalty apparently only costs $15,000. so it's a lot cheaper and safer just to kill them. And i can't understand why someone would want to keep a nonce alive. And if you just kill them all i imagine that people would think if they ever thought of doing something like this.
One thing to add to the final part, where he verbally abuses the suspect; the interrogator, Jim Smyth, was actually the person that found the remains of Tori Stafford. So I could imagine thatād get you pretty upset and high in emotion.
Only further shows how insanely good this man is at his job, to have this level of patience right across the man that killed an 8 year old girl he personally discovered.
In that case, the man should be given an award for that level of self control. He must be a machine for lack, of a better word. And I don't mean that as an insult by ANY metric. Truly special people.
Wow, that explains so much. I was a little surprised by how much vitriol the investigator had, bordering on unprofessional, but hearing that, I'm surprised he didn't murder him right there. I don't think I could trust myself in a room with a man who did that to an innocent child whose remains I found.
He was the one who found the girl, but she was found a couple of months after this interview. So that definitely wasnāt the reason why he acts the way that he does in this video.
There was no need for the "Good Cop Bad Cop" method here. This was no Whodoneit situation. They knew who did it, knew what he did and where he did it. He had an accomplice, and she totally spilled the beans. By all accounts, she was truthful even as to her own involvement in this crime. All that was left for this supposed good cop to do was to spread a four course meal before that murderer, then roll in a king sized bed, and offer him another eight year old girl again, That's just how cozy and comfy he wanted him to be. To be frank, I was bothered by that interrogation, you just cannot tell this man who sexually abused an eight year old girl repeatedly and murdered her with a hammer, then dumped a body as garbage somewhere, "he made a mistake."
They're saying he made a mistake so he feels that he has a way out and will start spilling the beans. The officers know he is a piece of shit and didn't make a mistake, it's just a way of trying to get a confession.
Yeah he doesn't look guilty at all he hasn't looked at one time, what in the hell is the interrogator talking about just telling me did it put his handcuffs on and take his ass to jail it's obvious šš
Both investigators are top notch, but hot damn the first guy. His voice sounds eerily like nogla, but his personality is super warm and comfortable... yet heās applying pressure throughout.
I feel the punishment for Terry-Lynn was more or less adequate, since she didn't seem to fully process what Micheal was actually planning on doing to the girl and she showed real remorse for her role in the crime. On the other hand Micheal was just straight up denying everything despite clear evidence and did not give a damn about what he did. He only cared about the fact that he got caught. He honestly deserves to stay in prison for the rest of his life with his actions being made public to the other inmates. People with those kinds of sentences will have their life made into a living hell behind bars.
Nah even 18 is way too old to think she was gonna lure this little girl to this grown man and he'd what, show her a puppy, and she could've stopped it before the assault happened, bashed his head in when she started screaming stop it hurts, like many things she could've done that wasn't this
@Chase Jones Well, I didn't mean she believed that this dude was just going to lure a girl into his car to show her a puppy, but I meant that she didn't fully think through what consequences her participation in his plan would have for the little girl. Although you are absolutely right that she could have intervened when she realized her mistake, but chose to do nothing instead.
I think something thatās worth clarifying, and something that isnāt mentioned by the video for some reason, is that it was later revealed in court that Terri-Lynn was the one who beat Tori to death, not Michael. Not that that makes Michael any less of a piece of shit, but it definitely does make the whole āgirlfriend was being manipulatedā story less plausible
Also, anyone notice how the female defendant had 2 black eyes and a broken nose in that mugshot? You know she got whooped by other inmates for he crimes! I don't even feel bad
He was so looking forward to a huge bag of big .Macs, fries, shakes, double cheeseburgers. Hasnāt Eaten since noonā¦as if he were starving. Five days then hunger starts to matter, but as long as that dude with lots of fat on his body to keep him alive water is all he needs for days followed by many more days. Cruel killer.
I have a friend who was sexually abused as a child, and who has faced an almost insurmountable hurdle in trying to move past the abuse and build a life. Some days he succeeds, some days he fails. But I'm so viciously angry with the person who abused him that I could see harm to him and not care, so I admire the professionalism and restraint of these police officers. That must take a special type of moral courage.
@Breakneck That you should ask a question like this, suitably anonymised, suggests that you have a lot of integrity and that you should want to examine your own behaviour suggests you have a whole load more.
I'm not a therapist, I'm not a behavioural expert or a psychiatrist, so this answer doesn't come from a place of any professional expertise, but it seems like the best way forward here it to talk to her. Maybe you say that you're worried about accidentally recreating some stuff for her and want to know what she thinks, and then it becomes part of a dialogue between the two of you. Seems like what that would do is to bring you guys closer together and establish, in her mind as someone who could be trusted and who took her enjoyment of sex seriously.
Again, be proud of yourself. It takes a certain something about a person to take on issues that come with abuse, whether it's a friendship or a more intimate relationship. It sounds like you're absolutely the person she needs and are already helping her heal.
@Breakneck dude, this shows that youāre a truly good partner to her. You should be as HONEST AS YOU CAN WITH HER. You should tell her exactly how you feel. Also, props to you, a fellow grappler.
Sheās lucky to have you. You shouldnāt feel bad about wanting sex or how you want it, just talk to her about it and be completely honest.
@Breakneck bless your soul. Itās commendable that youāre so concerned for your girl and I feel for her as I myself have been sexually assaulted on a number of occasions. I have a very difficult time during sex as it brings back awful memories for me and I sometimes go into a panicked state. I agree with both opinions given. My boyfriend is very concerned for me, and asks a lot of questions during sex and looks for hints that Iām becoming uncomfortable. I also let him know if I donāt want to be touched a certain way etc. I think itās all about communication and I also think that you should talk to your girl. Iām sure sheāll love and appreciate how much you care
@Stella Artois Ā You do know that my post was anonymous RIGHT?
I'm not comfortable with this topic & I don't know what to do & since other people have been down this road before I asked for some input & some help to get me on the right track & to help my state of mind.
How the FUCK am I so wrong that I should be single?
I can't believe you said that to me over me trying to help my girl & help our relationship. What the fuck are you saying I should done since asking for help is such a crazy thing to do?
@BreakneckIf you are so worried why don't you seek out professional help? There are really good professionals out there especially trained in cases like this. Do you really think it's a good thing to ask random internet people and heed their advice on what to do in your relationship? If you put that all out for everyone to read be prepared for people telling you their opinion, like I just did and I'm telling you it's not a good thing to do that. Feel free to ignore it though. For me this would be a big betrayal of trust.
@Stella Artois so far, the only negativity he's received on this question is from you. It would be wise, of course, for him to seek professional opinions, but this is a start that feels comfortable for him. It's not like he's naming names.
@Stella Artois Wind your head in. People get support where they can when they suddenly find themselves in need of it. I understand that you're absolutely desperate to climb into the pulpit and preach at someone in the conviction that only you are virtuous and pure, but you're not. A person has asked for help anonymously, and received some very heartening answers. He doesn't need the sanctimony police.
@Breakneck as a person whoās been sexually abused a lot since a very young age i think itās amazing that youāre thinking about this type of thing it just goes to show how much you care about her and i really appreciate that but honestly ik it might sound too simple or scary cus you might not wanna bring it up but i think the best thing to do is to just bring it up and ask her yk itās just way better than assuming or beating yourself up about it but just the fact that youāre thinking about this shows how much you care about her i hope you get to have this conversation and it goes well but if you do bring it up remember to listen because this is mostly about her comfortability and you gotta give her space to think and talk but of course also talk about your point of view and how you feel/what youāre thinking during :))
@Saint Lynnie I agree with Stella in that itās not ok for him to share what happened to her. Anonymous or not this part feels off to me and I donāt see why he specified so closely what happened to her. He couldāve just said that sheās a survivor without details and get the same outcome and advices.
@Breakneck You sound sensitive and strong. She probably feels safe knowing you would protect her. I think just checking by asking her and making ground rules like a stop word so she feels in control.
yes - itās unbelievable to me that people can do this for a career without drowning in depression or eventually beating the crap out of one of those disgusting creatures. God bless them and your friend.
@Breakneck My ex had almost the exact same experience as you described. And her view of sex was also altered. Its like she could only enjoy sex if it was rough. She wanted me to hit her and use filthy words.. im not exactly that kind of person so after a time, sex became stale and bland...
@Breakneck Getting access to professional help depends on where you are. I see a therapist privately and it costs Ā£30 for a fifty minute session. She's accredited by various professional standards bodies and I checked first to make sure that she had expertise in the areas I wanted to talk about by using an online directory of therapists, as she had previously been recommended to me. From what I understand, therapists often deal with abuse, so I don't think this is seen as a particularly specialist area.
And don't apologise. That you're sufficiently interested to engage with this and want to lessen someone else's burden is a fine thing.
@Breakneck hey man if you ever need to talk you can reply back a way to talk. Iām in no way a professional but Iāve had similar issues and talks with my girlfriend and maybe some stories and struggles Iāve went thought might give you some light or answers
I was abused many times in Life. I never been the same and every Morning i hate to wake up and go through another Day I could have been a good Mother, a good Wife, a good friend But i can't trust anymore I live alone for a long time trying to raise my Kids, but this effects me so much that i want a law for ppl like me. A wounded dog is put to death but i must live and go on and on I wished my abusers had done it and not letting me suffer for the Rest of my Life
This interrogator is amazing. The ability to downplay the severity of the crimes, and simultaneously bombard this man with commentary to keep his mind unsettled is impressive.
@PheelKooL yeah, it's tough when your perpetrator clams up like that, it was pretty hilarious at the end when he says, "You're one sick puppy" - In Canada that is an extremely obscene thing to say LOL
The very first time I watched this I was actually quite annoyed with the interrogator, but now I know why he was doing this. Also, is it just part of the training that cops always say, "Okay?" after every freaking sentence?
@Cyan_dreamz Oh yeah dude, the police will be kicking in my door any minute, because I said we shouldn't discriminate against a literal child killer in a YouTube comment section.
@Cyan_dreamz I wouldn't buy into it, ppl say stuff like this on purpose all the time just for the attention. As right as you are, they're a waste of your time and energy. The best thing you can do is ignore them. /gen
Heās going through opiate withdrawals, this is why he canāt eat and why heās freezing and sniffing.. He only pities himself, especially in that state- but I guess he'd act like that to some extent either way.
I feel no remorse for him, but it seems like perhaps he might have a trauma that may be a slight reason for his attraction to children and the reason he seems to age regress. idk I just thought it could be a possibility
āIām cold and hungryā given a blanket and food āIām acting like this bc Iām cold and hungryā looks at untouched food and used blanket Uhuh, definitely not because your trying to act innocent while your GUILTY
Poor Tori would have been 21 now. Bless her soul, I cannot even imagine how terrified she will have been. It's bad enough to fucking murder a child but to make them suffer like that before her end is vile. I can't even comprehend how evil you must be to do such a thing.
God bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Donāt swear or take Godās name in vain!)
As the same people who born in 2000, i really feel sad knowing in the same day im enjoying my youth while tori suffered the pain that i can't even imagine, rest in peace she's in the best place now
Omg that interrogator or whatever his official title is was SO annoying. I understand the mental game he was playing but maaaaaaan I wouldāve just said āyeah I did itā to shut him up š he would have won right away against me
I could NOT be an interrogator and sit across from these monsters and say things like "just relax," "I'm not mad at you," "we all make mistakes....", "want some eggs?," etc. I GET why they do that but I sure as hell couldn't sit there and make nice with these people.
This is a great video, okay? I'm gonna tell what I'm gonna do, alright? I'm gonna binge watch your videos, okay? Then I'm gonna subscribe to these videos, okay? I understand you put a lot of work into these, okay? And I think it's time you get more popularity, right? So I'm just gonna click that subscribe button..
I know he did an amazing job wearing him down to get the info but his āokay?ā just about drove me nuts! I believe that if I took a shot for every time he says āokay?ā I would die from alcohol poisoning.
@Kreip Flagra you mean from patreon? True crime videos get demonitized on youtube very often, so many of these youtubers need another way to make money from this. And I think they deserve it, these vidoes take a lot of time and effort. It isn't a fuck you to us, the money from patreon supports this channel, the free videos also. š
Kreip Flagra Itās literally one fucking dollar, if you donāt want to pay it and you live in a country that doesnāt have a current economic crisis, move along
@Kreip Flagra As someone who pays the dollar, I'm here to tell you it's worth it. He doesn't put out vids very often but they are always around an hour long and they are all AMAZING, plus he has a ton of back-content that Youtube has forced him to take down.
@Kreip Flagra You can choose what you pay, which could be 1 dollar. 1 dollar. Not like they're charging 20 bucks. I'd say that's an amazing deal. A lot of patreons start at more than a dollar to even unlock the basic content. I really don't see the problem here.
I noticed this too, right? Made me wonder if his rambling was supposed to wear the suspect down, okay? He didn't leave any dead air at all, right? Maybe the tactic was for him to just kept talking without giving the suspect space to respond, then the suspect would eventually take the first opportunity to get a word in edgewise and say something without thinking, okay?
I know if it were me, it would absolutely drive me nuts, okay?
I know there are lots of shit youtubers, okay? They mass produce cheap content for views, alright? Iāve seen āem, that doesnāt phase me. But I donāt think thatās you, mkay? Youāre not that kinda youtuber. Mkay?
@Kreip Flagra I know this comment is old...but can I really pay for more of this content?? This video was very hard to watch but I like this channel a lot, this creator deserves something for all the work put in that's enjoyed by millions.
āIām too sick to talkā āThatās fine, you can listenā Oof the interrogator is fantastic at building a relationship while maintaining a stern attitude
What triggers me the most is that the interrogator ends all sentences with "Okay" or "Alright". If he is so professional, than why can't he talk normally?
The same cop interrogated someone on another prolific case in Canada by murderer Russell Williams and get's a confession out of him. There's a couple documentaries of it, here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj7QRP37Wn0&t=925s
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Lady L2021-06-25 20:13:32 (edited 2021-06-25 20:24:32 )
@Lars Petersson I found myself nearly banging my head off a wall šš¤Ŗ
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Lady L2021-06-25 20:13:59 (edited 2021-06-25 20:16:49 )
@Taylor Tori Ireland thanks for info. Actually have seen that one. I'm sure "The Behavior Panel" channel on YouTube interviewed the detective bcos they loved his technique.. altho don't quote me on that, I might be confused after all those okays.. lol .
he's not a cop. well technically he is but he is a psychologist. he works for the canadian fbi.
you can't explain away your dna on the victims body. they just want to know if he's committed other crimes. if he talks, helps them. he will get the chance of parole, if this is his only murder.
this denial will be used against him at his trial. he's a pure narcissist... zero empathy/regret. he'd do it again. he's a serial killer.
Regardless, what I learn from these videos is that so long as you keep your mouth shut, they can yap yap yap and won't get anywhere. If you know you're guilty and you're going in regardless of confession or not, just zip it, maybe there's a possibility they won't have enough to convict you. If I ever get picked up by cops, these videos will be an invaluable help to me, I'll ask for a lawyer and won't squeal. I know the cops are not my friends, are not trying to exonerate me, they merely want a confession, doesn't matter from whom.
@I Drink Milk Yes this is true, itās basically the same 6 or so phrases just swapped about at random. But itās his stamina; the way he flows, without stopping, that struck me. I just couldnāt; after 5 minutes Iād at least have to pause for water and to catch my breathā¦ā¦
His love for the victims and the pain we feel knowing what she must of went thru not being able to save her. the anger.questioning how could you do this to anyone especially a child. Wanting to smash him like a bug. knowing nothing can and will fix this. Its overwhelming
39:27 Why is Fear-then-Relief the italian flag upsidedown? My teori is the "Relief-then-Fear-teori" or RTFT for short... Basicly you travel to italy (Relief) but then you meet italians (Fear).
@Karen Vaughan I hope to own a classic someday! Mine have all been 2nd gen, I'd never buy 1st or 3rd (or newer) but man those Classics have my heart too!
Well, I'd say that a mini is even more needed in a family of 10. Of course, you can fit the whole family in a van, but are you sure you want to fit EVERYONE every time in a car with you? You'd probably want some personal space and alone time.
see sir... i don't think you're a monster. sometimes you dont want the family around. here's your excuse, you just need to buy the mini. there is no room for the family in there, just yourself.
I'm not so sure. 3 and a half hours of him rambling and he could barely get a word out of Rafferty. With all due respect, that really wasn't impressive by any means.
I'm guessing by now, Mikie also knows the feeling of something very big and hard being forced in tight dark places.. Only, he gets to experience it over and over. :) Not so tight now, right Mikie?
Jim actually worked my armed robbery case in 2017. The man is a pitbull. My lawyer battled him for a long trail, and I barely beat the case. Only. Wait a minute I just made all that up. My bad I'm high as shit.
I will say the same thing about those two detectives who interrogated Chris Watts. Heck, that office clock would have made me confess. And yes, I'm guilty for licking a lollipop and putting it back when I was 7. It was so tempting. I will never forget. Guilt.
When he first comes in the interrogation room he seems like someone withdrawling from opiates Iām sure he is a addict, I guess we will find out as I watch
I can't imagine how digustet his family and friend's and kolleg's must have be when they heard the new's. Ican only imagine becouse i am already so disgustet on every breath he makes!
I have to disagree with this tactic. I would never interrogate a suspect in his condition. I know defense attorneys that would rip this guy apart from doing this. I would have put him in holding till he was feeling better then hammering it to him just like he's doing.
These people think they're too smart to get caught. In reality, given modern technology, they have close to 0% chance of evading justice. Just throwing their lives away for a few seconds of whatever enjoyment they can derive from their selfish fantasies.
@Carolyn Grey Speaking for all the men serving prison sentences across this beautiful country of ours.. I can assure you, These guys here.. We make sure they suffer. AND BOY DO THEY!!! There had been cases were they were literally rape to death :D
@Carolyn Grey No it's not. How can you support rape? These criminals should be punished appropriately by the state (which is obviously a big failure in the criminal system). Please don't condone rape because of that failure. Ultimately there is very little justice in this world, God will sort him.
@Carolyn Grey The way sex offenders are treated in prison is part of the reason why so many rapes end with murder. Since the criminal knows his life is over if he gets caught, it becomes all or nothing for him - either he kills the witness for a chance at getting away with the crime or gets tortured for the end of his life in prison. If the justice system ensured the safety of "chomos", there'd be a lot less dead children on this planet.
@Carolyn Grey Sorry. You have a very superficial view of the law and penal system. Btw, I said 'state' as I am in the UK. I've seen injustice from the wrong side of a cell. I know of people who were raped in prison. Kids really, in a man's prison. And I know that the prisons are FULL of people who have done VERY LITTLE wrong, if not falsely accused, or, as is most common, not able to afford a committed, decent lawyer and thus found guilty and imprisoned with a crap, biased judge rubber stamping the trumped up prosecution case. A system like this CREATES hatred and the mindset of hardened criminals, even if you entered it completely innocent. Child rapist/killers deserve little mercy in my book, which is the Qur'an by the way. But the standard of proof is high before any finding of guilt and penalty is imposed. And any doubt in the facts of case or legal process gets the capital punishment waived/substituted with another sanction. Prisoners are not being reformed in prison, other than a tiny minority perhaps. They are full members of the human species. The children of Adam. And as such they deserve dignity. A system that tacitly or openly encourages men to rape one another is a disgrace and a blot on the face of justice.
@Carolyn Grey i dont think we should allow a state the power of being able to torture criminals... but hey if you really wanted to i mean IM not gonna stop you lmao
@Carolyn Grey 2 reasons. 1st we don't live in a world where an eye for an eye is acceptable. We become no better than them if we live in mob mentality. 2nd. You know how many men who have been falsely accused for murder or rape etc that been found out years later they were innocent. Not only they lost years of their life but you want to put them through torture as well?
@A Thought To Think About i think you watch too many movies. Very rarely does that happen. Sex criminals are put into a different type of blocks from the rest of the criminals. Its for the vulnerable criminals who have all done similar crimes. So they won't attack someone for a sick crime when they done something similar
He was asked what he was most afraid of. He gave a normal reasonable answer, which anyone would give in that situation, guilty or not. He did a lot of horrible, evil, fucked up things, but saying the true fact that he's afraid of his life clearly isn't one of them. This statement should not bother you.
@Carolyn Grey well except for this guy and people who did things like him, torturing inmates and criminals is barbaric. We have moved past that now. I mean, less than two hundred years ago, we were branding, and pressing inmates with hot iron bars. But I see whyād you want this guy to be tortured
@Mister T i obviously only think it should be for cases where there is no room for doubt if someone is going to be put to death or tortured there should be 100% certainty that they committed the crime. In this day & age with cameras & dna its not that hard to be certain & in cases without it then sure just give them.life in prison. But when there is a case like THIS it might actually be helpful to make an EXAMPLE of these ppl so that other sickos will KNOW that in this country we absolutely do not stand for child abuse/ murder, & maybe if pedo's knew that they will be tortured/ killed if they harm a child it MIGHT just stop them from doing in the future. Its not about an eye for an eye its about sending a clear message anD PREVENTING THESE THINGS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.
oh they do deserve to live.... but in a conStant reminder of pain and abuse to remember their victim/s believe me if i had any ruling over it no one would be doing it EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO!!
I think they should be sent to a so called "working camp" in North Corea, where they pull out yr teeth and no food. The only thing you get to do (if yr lucky) is to dig until your so exhausted you can't speak (Oh, and your not allowed to speak) and then the same thing happens the day after, and the day after that, and then....
I was thinking the first detective kept saying "I've seen people who did a lot worse things than you," but honestly, what could be 'much worse' than kidnapping, raping, and murdering an innocent child? Maybe doing it multiple times, but otherwise?
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B B2021-09-04 15:31:12 (edited 2021-09-04 15:37:50 )
@Charlesbjtown Itās not a competition. We all know that any r4pe, torture, and murder is absolutely vile.
They just merely pointed out (without saying it) the universal belief that it takes an extra sick person to purposely prey on the innocence of a child (like luring her to see a puppy, something you and I would be more keen to) ā a child who likely had no concept of even knowing the true horrors of the world and was purposely targeted over it.
We all know all of it is bad when it happens to anyone, and no one deserves any of it to happen point blank. When someone to purposely chooses a child FOR their innocence and naivety, though, it takes that heinous act to a new low.
Thereās a reason why CP is classified separately to the p0rn that shows real life atrocities. Thereās a reason why sexual assault and abduction is treated different when a child is involved. Thereās a reason why r4pe and murder is handled a certain way when it involves a child, as well. Itās all terrible regardless who it happens to and all cases want to all resolve the same with the victims getting their justice, yes ā¦ no one is saying otherwise. Itās just the acts being committed towards someone who adults are supposed to protect is what makes it harder to process. Itās why in a lot of prisons around the world, anyone in for doing something to a child is seen as being at the bottom and will be targeted. Itās that universal worldwide belief that puts children in a separate class of protection for their innocence.
Itās the same thing towards people who prey on the elderly and those who are hindered mentally/physically as it is with children. People who canāt exactly defend themselves or understand whatās going on that the public feels the need and the want to protect. So, no, it isnāt a competition as I said itās all bad ā¦ but it takes an extra disgusting person to do this to one of them because of them being who they are.
@LiƧƔ To me, murdering someone ( thinking on a deeper level, we are all kind of sibblings, origin from the same source once) is evil and of course totally unacceptable no matter adult or child. But when a child, people are reminded of this same origin and if having kids of yr own that you love more than life itself, it of course triggers those feelings people are expressing here, also a child or for example a disable/retarded person are much more vulnarable and that also creates those feelings. But to answer your question, NO, all murderds are horrible, evil and unexusable actions, no matter what. (And if you are a grown up, something tells me you already knew/felt all this already, unless perhaps you do not have kids of yr own. I actually don't, but lots of kids in my family, and feel all these feeling when the victim is a child)
@Adrian Flo if I think of them like a sickness, I think even more so put them down if they done this. People would still do it but its not about that its about justice for the people who carry the burden of pain.
@Adrian Flo it cant get much worse than torturing a baby to death, I will give my life glady to take theirs from them Five people, one person, its all the same. Justice is whats needed. And that comes after understanding, that you can't change a personality, they are fooked after they commit a crime so bad, I understanding mental health, but perverts who go on to kill out off sexual pleasure almost certainly can't be helped.
@Adrian Flo because for every individual they're one person. So killing one and not having real justice is like killing everyone.
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CoWoVeR the MoO2021-09-09 22:31:19 (edited 2021-09-09 22:46:11 )
@Adrian Flo we will all have deal with the burden of pain, and emotional shit, so bring it on. Eye for an eye. For them who stand beside you show them respect, for them who stand behide you, protect them. for them who stand against you show no mercy. Basic law. If you cant follow the laws tho shall not rape and murder kids, then show no mercy.
@Adrian Flo some are even given a better education and knew identification to become even better criminals. He could be moving in a street next to you.
@CoWoVeR the MoO That was truly cringe to read not gonna lie. No not all people have to live and deal with the burden of having been raped or having had a loved one murdered.
I think i rather air on the side of forensic psychology to help us minimize these types of people. Catch them when they are young, understand why these people exists and makes sure they get on the right path.
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CoWoVeR the MoO2021-09-10 00:09:13 (edited 2021-09-10 00:12:54 )
@Adrian Flo I dont understand your reaction. I never said anything about everyone will deal with rape.. everyone will have to deal with the burden of pain. If my son did this he would deserve death, I would have to deal with that pain , pain knowing he killed and raped someone and the fact he will be put to death. Have they got a mental illness, or a personality disorder?. I nevr heard anything mentioned about it. To me its sound the guy just wanted get his end away. The women wanted her guy to like her more. so she gifted him with a child, when she seen him giving the girl attention and not her she got jealous and then smashed the kids head in with an hammer. That is not mental illness. That's evil.
I think what baffles me the most is how two people can collabprate to do something so heinous. Like, who brings up the notion first? How do you convince to other to help you do something like this?
I always think about this too. Is it abuse? Is it just a manipulative person who feels completely confident in their ability to keep and control someone, to the point that they could get them to do anything?
The girl was 10 years younger than him. Probably fell in love with him and had issues at home or something. He obviously manipulated her into doing it.
Thing is, it's not a rare or uncommon occurrence. Abduction and murder is more unusual, but child abuse of all kinds is not and usually there are multiple people who are complicit in it. š
The problem is people automatically assume women are innocent sweet creatures incapable of violence, yet when you look into it, there are plenty of cases of women killing, directly or indirectly. Old, young, white, black, man, woman, evil can lie within anyone
@Random guy with a baseball batte I think your point was that the girl, as well as many others do, saw her gender and assumed she was safe just because she was a women. Even though women have been proven to be not safe too. The problem here is that you arenāt acknowledging that most of the time, itās men, not women, who prove to be unsafe. Therefore, it is true that people are generally more at ease with women. But thatās because generally men are more dangerous.
So yes, itās bad to trust a stranger just because sheās a women, but itās also more likely that a bad stranger will be a man.
That being said, because people feel this way about women, predators often use women to lure prey, but the PERSON BEHIND IT is a man.
So yeah, they are both bad and yeah, women do hurt people. But he is (way) more bad than than her, and men hurt people (physically) (way) more.
But I donāt think thereās anything wrong with you pointing something out about society while still holding the guy accountable. I think in your original comment you said something about female killers, and since this woman isnāt the same as them, I wouldnāt necessarily group her in with women who go out on their own to plan and commit murders. After all, it was a man behind this murder.
So in the end one reason not to trust female strangers is because men (most killers) are using them to get to you.
Another reason is because she, a woman (less killers) is out to get you.
So two separate things. But itās a fair point just a little catty with the way you say āpeople think theyāre sweet innocent creatures incapable of violenceā. And no, thatās not what people think.
Like attracts like. When you see these couples who have done that one person has found another person with intention who has been abused in the past, and is able to easily manipulate them and Conjure up feelings of anger, of lack of power, of feeling like a victim and then parades the idea of how good it would feed to be the one inflicting pain and not the one enduring pain. Anyone else who went on a date with this guy would sense there is something off and he gave off weird vibes, when she went on a date with him it reminded her of something she has been around her whole life or as a child. A creepy child molester is likely someone who played a huge role in her life. Once he found someone who experienced that (as he likely was molested too) he could play up the negative aspects of being a victim and convince her of how good it would be to take back that power. Itās horrible. But itās very easy for two people who been through abuse and are natural predators as well. Manipulation is part of their every day demeanor.
@Random guy with a baseball batte Im glad that girl is going to live with that every day for the rest of her life. I hope shes free too, so every day she wakes up and knows what she did, and that there is nothing she can ever do to fix it. Thats justice.
This guy has such a punchable face. I feel for Toriās dad. I can imagine heās had a lot of nights of wanting a minute in a room with this guy. If anyone deserved death penalty, itās guys like this.
I love the "bad cop". he said "I'm sitting in this room for Tori, making you squirm and putting you through some of the grief you caused her...and I'm having a good time!". then he goes on to talk about Mike and the serial killer in prison making googly eyes at each other in their glass cells. š¤£
@77thSOUND yes, maybe a slight unprofessional. I think at that point they realized they weren't going to get him to talk about anything. also, he probably was taking her murder to heart being as he was the lead investigator and he just wanted to give a little something back. I don't know how they could keep from choking him out. then again, he'd probably walk if they did that. ugh
"Lured her with a puppy" When I was a little kid my parents always told me that if someone ever tried to convince me to help them find a lost puppy to not go with them. I always thought that was silly and not something that actually happened but clearly I was wrong...
I thought it was just something people said even after a man asked me to help him find his lost puppy (I was 9). I only realized in the last couple years that maybe that guy wasnāt on the up and up. I thought it was unfortunate that I wasnāt in a position to help that poor man find his lost puppy because I wasnāt allowed to leave with strangers ā bad guys elsewhere had ruined it for everyone. I wasnāt very bright.
I remember when my brother and I were little and this guy passing by our fence tried to convince us to come help him find his lost puppy... We knew it wasn't a good idea from our parents telling us so... Can't imagine what would've happened if we didn't know any better.
I once heard someone say that the easiest tell that someone's got ulterior motives is if they ask a child for help instead of an adult.
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Sir Dankleberry2019-11-07 07:20:25 (edited 2019-11-07 07:21:55 )
I grew up in the 90s which was the peak of stranger danger because of the kidnapping spike in the mid to late 80s. Unfortunately there are monsters out there willing to take the innocence of children.
I fully just went gave my daughter a lecture about random adults asking her if she wants to see puppies, kittens, LOLs or anything that she likes. No, no, noooo!
Maia Hadley If Iām a grown man looking for my dog, at best, I might ask some kids āHey, did you see a dog recently?ā and ask which way.
Iām not going to ask some little kid to come with me - a total stranger- and find my dog, and I imagine thatās the case with most adult men, especially nowadays.
Iām just thankful you knew not to go, cuz I have little doubt things wouldāve ended badly. Itās sad, but the days of āthe good-natured stranger looking for help finding their dogā might be over... if they ever existed in the first place.
Ted Bundy would do that and hold a leash. It's like, why the fuck would I need to help you find your dog?! lmao. Insane truly, but people are too kind.
@Carol Ann Honey, you were NINE. Being innocent and trusting is a good, healthy thing to be when youāre a child. It doesnāt make you dumb, it just means that you didnāt expect the evil that people can do. No nine year old should know that reality if at all possible.
@Enthie Gavoir yea pretty much maybe if they ask a kid have you seen a puppy running around that's something I buy but if they ask a kid for help looking for it that's a huge red flag.
One time when I was 14 my parent and step-parent ran out to get some groceries and I stayed home to watch my two brothers (6)(12) and sister (4). They were outside in the backyard playing on the trampoline and suddenly I saw a man enter our backyard through the gate (the gate was locked from the inside of the backyard, so he wouldāve had to reach over) holding a PUPPY. I was outside, but I ran inside to grab the phone, while all the kids gathered around the man to look at the puppy. I called my parents in a panic. Thank goodness it was a friend of theirs (that they were expecting to come over) but it really scared me. They did apologize for not telling me he was coming over š but still lol
Berry Tears when I was about thirteen I was out jogging in a quiet area when a man asked me to grab his dog for him (it was off the lead), it was a bit weird but I did it anyway. When he grabbed the dog off me he took a little bit too long and I knew something was off right away, a group of older kids walked by though and Iāve never seen a guy walk away so fast. Itās definitely a common thing they do to try and snatch kids.
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JM Seeya2019-11-08 05:59:52 (edited 2019-11-08 14:58:48 )
@Lucy Harrison That's an incredibly unsettling story, particularly how you describe it as a "quiet" area- a place where people jog and walk their dogs and go for walks; ostensibly a "safe" place.
Glad to hear you did not get...snatched (?) God knows what scheme this individual had up his sleeve.
In the end, you won. And he scampered off like a weasel with no dignity.
I remember when I was really little, me and my best friend were allowed to wander around a Bed Bath & Beyond and some guy came up and started making conversation with me, asking me if I did sports, etc, ended up asking me if I liked kittens or puppies better, and "oh my goodness, you like puppies, really? It just so happens that my dog just gave birth and I have the puppies in the parking lot right now, someone needs to adopt them!". I was such an idiot, I was actually thinking about going with him. My friend who was quietly glaring at this dude the whole time grabs my hand and goes "We need to ask our mom!" and pulls me away. I thought she was being so rude, but a few years later looking back on it... really glad she was there and not as stupid as I was. :3 The "stranger danger" guy was always this shadowy, dirty old mean dude with a trench coat, and the guy who approached me was friendly and well-dressed, so as a like 6 year old I just never imagined he could ever hurt me.
@OfficialSPbeats Yes I know. I am from Washington. My grandma lived next door to him on Queen Anne Hill when she went to college before he started killing people. She had his hammer she borrowed from him to hang some paintings for her whole life, and she soon moved to another town and never gave the hammer back. I now possess the Ted Bundy hammer. it's kind of an heirloom Xp lol. My mom is worried it's cursed, but I assure her it's just a normal hammer lol.
It's just so sad because kids are so empathetic and taught every day in school to be 'good little helpers' and monsters like this abuse their native innocence and kindness.
Sir Dankleberry2019-11-09 08:51:36 (edited 2019-11-09 08:52:17 )
@Senpai ThatFriendzonesyou I know I've seen those documents on a livestream. The Finders could've been a counter intelligence asset that went rouge and the CIA were so embarrassed they covered it up.
@Sir Dankleberry It's a possibility, which raises more questions like: how many other assets went rouge?
Another possibility is that the CIA was infiltrated by saboteurs who were sabotaging it.
Regardless of the cause, what is very clear is that the CIA needs to be investigated by congress again like the were last time with Senator Rockefeller.
Carol Ann you were bright enough to get away from him. That's all that was needed. I remember being in school in the early 80's and they made us watch a video of different scenarios where people would try to abduct kids. Puppy excuse was one. Other excuses that were plausible to a kid were presented but done so by different people. It wasn't just the stereotypes but younger women, younger men, older men, older women so we would understand that anyone can have bad intention. Probably solidified my fear that no one can be trusted, ever, but I'm alive.
Queen Of Swords good. The part someone else mentioned in the comments was the same thing my mom drilled into my head...If an adult asks you for help instead of asking another adult, they don't have good motives.
@Sir Dankleberry me too! Well actually I grew up in the 80s and was in high school from 90 to 94. I was riding my bike to a friend's house once when i was in elementary school. Unfortunately my back tire went flat, so i was walking with my bike. This man had driven by me slowly a few times. It may have been more, but I noticed him twice. On the third time he stopped and was asking me if i could help him find his dentist (?) That was a really odd request. But like you, growing up with all the stranger danger commercials and talks at school, I ran away from him. I was clearly scared because other people who drove by ended up calling the police when they got some where with a phone to report that a young girl was running and looking back a lot. The cops came and took me to my friends and then called my parents. I didn't really understand just how scary this situation was until I was older.
Yes, Iāve seen this. The parents stood back saying āoh, my child would never go with a stranger. We have made sure of that, they wonāt do itā...and then they send out the guy with the āwanna see my puppyā tactic and EVERY kid went right along with them. The parents were shocked.
algo We really donāt know how many serial killers are out there still. Sadly as forensics has gotten more sophisticated so have the killers and rapists.
When I was 8 or 9 I was playing outside and a man asked me to look for his lost puppy.. I ran back inside my apartment terrified.. I am glad my mom said the same to me.
I am from the area this horrific crime occurred. Apparently a week or so before the abduction, Toriās mother had a brief meeting at Terri-Lynnās house to discuss dog breeding with Terri-Lynnās mother. Terri was in the room as the discussion took place. Tori had also tagged along with her mom, so would have seen Terri Lynn talking about dogs with her mother. The police believe this was actually one of the reasons tori followed her: a result of the previous brief encounter and the excuse of the dogs.
@Enthie Gavoir And this is a good thing to tell your kids - āGrown ups who really need help will ask other grown ups for help. If they ask kids, theyāre bad and you should NOT help themā.
Unfortunately in Canada we don't have capital punishment . With any luck the prison population can treat him just like he treated Tory . But since he is going to live in prison a while send you care packegs of " Depends " !
Thinking of food while the girls dead face is right in front of him. What a cold hearted, selfish SOB. I wish him nothing but the worst in prison. Rip Angel
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Johnny Mango2020-10-19 01:43:25 (edited 2020-10-19 01:43:58 )
This is some rarest interrogation footage that's ever been released by any agency. Here we see an interrogator so effective, he actually has developed the skill to interrogate HIMSELF for up to 15 minutes while the suspect naps.
@Pepe Metallero "I'll get you some food" *cuts to red coloring and inner monologue "Ha, in reality, he will only get hungrier by anticipating the arrival of food"
Elias Ćnalan2021-06-25 05:01:47 (edited 2021-06-25 07:47:46 )
@Blue Cheese it plants fear in the guilty person of how they will be treated. it it gives them a clear motive to talk and lock himself into lies or admissions so they dont "assume" the worst (in this case the truth)
It's a waste of time building rapport with these maniacs. 90% of these cases are open and shut. these detectives have gotten too crazy with the psychology
My theory is that it doesnāt give the person they are interrogating enough time to rethink and think of their argument. If theyāre lying they would need to have some time to think about it, and he doesnāt give them that chance.
Not just that but holding back the obvious disgust and inevitable anger these cops must feel. Guaranteed theyād love to put him in a dark room without cameras with a phone book and baton.
I can put my house on it that this detective was sniffing coke or some sort of amphetamine because thereās not a chance in hell you speak this constant and consistent for so long. He hardly let that other guy speak. This is a totally different ātechniqueā that Iāve saw compared to others. I canāt say itās just his way of doing things at all, it was really annoying just hearing him talk for the whole 16 mins and 55 seconds. (Yes this is where I paused and had to comment š¤£)
It seems like an old Buddhist chant. He just keeps droning and droning, making the suspect zone out further and further. Some chants are one word, some are huge scripts. He probably doesn't hear himself saying anything anymore, he's just watching their body language.
its more to annoy the suspect and get them to spill the beans sooner i believe. i couldn't imagine being asked the same questions over and over id break.
It's all part of his technique he's gotta work his way into his head he knows what he is he knows what he's done but he's gotta get Mike to admit it and explain why even though he more than likely already knows why. I watch too much criminal minds y'all ignore me
I really donāt need a lecture on the way he interrogates lol I know why he does it. All Iām saying is, In comparison to many other cases Iāve seen, this detective talks A LOT and it seemed to accomplish nothing because Michael Rafferty was unfazed and seemed to be a step ahead of his tactics
You didn't HAVE to just 'sit with him' detective. You could have also done us ALL a huge favor and saved the community alot of time and money with the mere expense of a common projectile. They make em every day. Problem solved.
@Jaren Rivera There is an expectation of gain because they're giving. They aren't paying for absolutely nothing right? they want validation. Nudes, chatting with the person they're donating to. Many of them are obsessive over E-girls instead of having actual interactions with real females. I'd say a few would resemble this guy.
@GGed_ You do know simps don't only exist over the internet right? And that a lot of simps have been misled by society to think this is what will garner attraction it doesnt make them dangerous attackers wtf? There's a high chance that if the woman doesn't just keep accepting their gifts and etc, and just rejects them theyll just move on. That's the thing you're leaving out when it comes to simps, there isn't a real rejection
@Jaren Rivera I think you know that i'm not generalizing with every single person who has ever had a simp moment. To make it clear i'm referring to the ones living purely on the internet, usually have some obsession over pornography because their needs are not met, and can be just as obsessive over some of the girls whom they donate/pay to talk to. What you're talking about is guys who did something nice for their crush and got turned down lol.
People who isolate themselves in that manner can become dangerous and it's a common trend to see in offenders with sexual types of offending.
@GGed_ In the case of Stephen mcdaniel that's more believable but still I'm not sure the ability to inflict massive amounts of bodily harm is really tied to the simp phenomenon it could be but I just don't buy it. You have to have something really dark inside of you
@Jaren Rivera I agree with you, i don't think it's a super strong correlation either but i think it would be a small percentage. More realistically, it would correlate more in the realm of sexual offending rather than these extreme examples of rape/murder.
I worked with the Aunt of this little girl( her dadās sister) . It was absolutely horrible when it happened and everyone at our work banded together to support her and her family. We led out so much hope that she would be found ok. Its so strange to see this case on this channel so many years later š¢ I watch this channel all the time, but itās so different when it hits so close to home.
It must be really harrowing in thar case. I really like how this channel treats its content, a lot of true crime media outlets treat the most vile, traumatic acts of human psyche like schoolyard drama. We have to remember at the end of the day this interest can be voyeuristic into the pure suffering of others (as in, the victims).
N Logan Take a family, add aunts, uncles and cousins. Then add the number of people they work with. You would be surprised how fast you reach over one million people.
A former girlfriend of mine is a cousin of Nicole Morin, who went missing at age 9 and was never found. She was last seen going to the elevator in her building in her swimsuit to go to the pool downstairs. The case has never been solved. It's just unimaginably awful what happens in these situations, and I really admire the work of these professionals who have to deal with this stuff and sit across from these absolute scumbags. Jim Smyth in particular is very impressive. He's the one who got the confession from Russell Williams, the Air Force Colonel and serial sexual predator who murdered his own subordinate and then consoled her parents afterwards. I know it will probably never happen, but I would love to see whoever is responsible for Nicole Morin's disappearance sitting in that chair one day, like this worthless coward.
This guy really pisses me off sitting there trying to get pity like poor me. The things he did to that little girl, ain't so tough now are ya. I hope he's someone's girlfriend in jail
Jim Smyth (the "bad cop" investigator) appears to be able to play either roles. He was the very kind and mild mannered "good cop" in the world famous interrogation of Colonel Russell Williams, getting Williams to confess to the murders, and even had Williams so pacified/comfortable that Williams said that the only person he wanted to deal with was Smyth. And, here, Smyth is the "bad cop" that Rafferty wants nothing to do with.
@Olly Burhouse Same! At first I thought that the the first interrogator was him, but when he walked in and started talking I was like...wait a minute! That's truly some impressive craftsmenship
Thank you for the information about Smyth being the one, who interviewed Russel Williams. He did a great job then and in this one as well. Personally I wouldn't be able to hide my disqust for this creep of a man.
Big respect to the detective for staying that calm while telling him the history of mankind. I know it's his job and he's one of the best in the world, but hell, I don't think there could be anyone who talks to this monster like he is a human being. How can you do this to an 8 year old girl and then go ahead and take her life like that. Cruel world
Well yea of course heās afraid of losing his life, he knows what he did is super fuckin serious and heās going to be taken to jail and most likely beat to death. People know what itās like for pedophiles in prison. The inmates hate pedophiles and arenāt shy about it. Self preservation is still there to a degree. No empathy for him but still.
@FOXCYBORGNINJA Man, you must be high. I'm jelly, lmfao. Seriously tho, good way of looking at things, a mysterious god who is unknown is pretty much the same as a random god who probably doesn't exist.
@Leo Whalen I don't believe in a god, but if there was one, our free choices would just make us behave like we live in the Matrix. Nobody would do any wrong if they knew that it was undeniable, and an omni-present, time and space bending being could just delete you. Free will is what makes us human, but how we handle it is also up to humans. Sometimes it works and sometimes its not enough.
@xTheReapersSpawn You mean this human construct of a supreme being possessing higher morality and greater knowledge, that we deluded ourselves into thinking is beyond our comprehension? HA!
@Leo Whalen The only answer I have is, is not an atheist a god unto himself? Therefore if you are ever in a position of lower power in a life threatening situation, should you not fear those who hold power over you? (Agnostic btw.)
@xTheReapersSpawn This "god" we call, is a mass of misunderstanding in part of our ignorance. We fear the unknown and the unexpected, and thus to comfort ourselves we've created this being whom we label the cause for inexplicable effects as a coping mechanism. In short, we made a god because we don't know a lot of things and we don't like that.
What we call divine intervention is simply coincidence. What we call miracles are simply causalities we've yet to comprehend. What we call commandments are simply common rules of preservation of society via mutual benefit. Whatever god you choose to believe in, is your personal set of beliefs adjusted to conform with like-minded individuals. There is no god; there are only ideals. That's why we have holy wars, which are just arguments with extra steps.
@lildicgang he's not a psychopath by any means, he's clearly not "cunning manipulative" and he clearly regrets what he's done. I genuinely think his messed up sexual urges got the better of him and he abducted the child and, like the detective said, went "oh shit, we can't have witnesses" and it was all in the heat of the moment. Not to say it won't happen again or that he isn't a truely terrible person who deserves everything he gets in this video, but to say he at least isn't a psychopath
@Alphacide_ this philosophy is fine until you consider people are products of their experiences and genetics. Do we really have free will? Did every choice a person made really have a chance to go the other way? Many scientists would answer, no. What does THAT say about God?
āSomething as simple as watching child pornography for hours on end. These things happenā omg this detective is crazy good. How tf do you make ^THAT^ sound chill and reassuring??
He's actually right. If you're exposed to something enough, it becomes normalized in your mind, which can then lead you to do more extreme things than what you're exposed to.
This interrogator is a grade-A expert. This guy couldnāt get any bullshit story in his head together because the interrogator is constantly plucking at him.
As a father to 4 girls this isn't enough. She wanted to see a puppy and instead she had the most scary and traumatic experience right before she was pulled from this world. And instead of spending the next 10 years playing with friends learning about the world around her learning how to drive a car falling in and out of love she was stuck in a hole in the ground by 2 people who had no empathy for her. Life without parole for 25 years is to light. I want this couple to suffer the way she did until they bage for a death that never comes.
@Salad McJones what iām describing is a form of punishment that was popular here in italy during medieval times called āgogna pubblicaā which was basically a small wooden structure that immobilized the criminal in a public square. There would also be a plaque underneath where the crimes he committed would be written so that citizen could choose which punishment would be best. It usually lasted all day and it was a ton of fun for everybody, i miss the good old times
In Canada that is the maximum possible sentence, life without parole does not exist. It does not mean he will be granted parole at 25 years, just that he will be eligible to go before a parole board.
@Wozo see I understand that's the max. But anyone capable of doing a this to a kid doesn't deserve hope. No matter how gloom it may be I want then as far from it as possible.
@Lucignolo Think about why that might be. Why are we so soft on these monsters, but so comparatively harsh on hate crimes, theft, and driving violations?
ā@Lucignolo Well, that guy, did what he did to get some kind of satisfaction. He tortured and killed a person for satisfaction. It doesn't matter how old the person was, doesn't matter if the person was innocent or not. It doesn't matter whether he's got his satisfaction, all that matters is that he tortured and killed a human for satisfaction. I don't see any justification to let anybody do the same, for whatever reason.
Cause letting anyone torture or kill for satisfaction isn't going to do any good for anyone. Nothing good for the murderer, nothing good for the victim's family, nothing good for people involved nor for the society, and definitely nothing good for the victim comes out of this. There's simply no point to it. That's why no civilised country does that.
@Lucignolo I have no doubt that prisons in South America and Eastern Europe are way worse than in the US; that doesnāt mean shit like that doesnāt still happen.
@Thespirit Oh I was just comparing between the two kinds of punishment in complete irrelevance to your comment, I apologize if it came off as putting words in your mouth, secondly, that's kind of a personal thing, believing or not believing in inmate justice is quite subjective, that doesn't mean that it's not a form of justice in of itself
@eman elghanam yes it is subjective and that's why I said "I find no solace in inmate justice". As I was attempting to keep it from my prospective. And apologie is excepted my friend.
@Lucignolo I wouldn't call them cheesecake compared to those two. South America has a skewed system of its own, lots of corruption and undermanagement. Eastern Europe isn't that far off from the US. just a different culture of people. The gulag doesn't technically exist anymore. But this isn't about technicalities. Just like guantanimo, perfect prison right? The US system is just as cruel as any other, just more in secret, and much more divided. Racism is a real thing in prison and HAS to be. There is no neutral there. In these other countries its generally just 1 race.
@Trenten S youāre kidding right? There are many tv shows where they film american prisons and i can tell you they are like chessecake compared to most of the world
@Lucignolo you're kidding me right... please tell me you don't believe everything you see TV.... Its a show for a reason. Made for entertainment that has to follow strict guidelines. You're not going to see the people raped, beaten, and murdered all the time behind the wire. It aint cheesecake fellow.
@Trenten S I believe they are referring to the living conditions not inmate interactions. If so then what they said is true. But inmate interactions are the same everywhere.
Pretty sure most of us decent people would want them to suffer forever, but the system needs to apply a tangible punishment like a life sentence. Sometimes I wish high degree prisoners like this guy would be put to work, something like what they do in China, more or less.
@Thespirit stranger danger. And she had it. The moment she saw Michael Rafferty she didnāt care to see that puppy anymore. But she was forced in. Itās a balancing act. Make them scared of strangersā¦ but at the same time donāt give them a complex. Itās very difficult to listen to. Iād love just 5 min in a room alone with this guy.
No kidding right? As a father myself, it's stuff like this that makes me realize that I may never be what some would consider a truly good Christian. It would take every single ounce of determination and commitment to do the right thing NOT to pull my service weapon out of its holster right there in that room and put one right between the eyes. When you see the lengths he goes too for sympathy is f-ing nauseating. The arrogance and narcissism is truly staggering.
@Dion St. Michael Don't be so hard on yourself; Jesus killed a fig tree with his mind because it didn't bear fruit - pretty sure he'd understand the service weapon thing.
@Jintaro Kensei youād change your mind as soon as the pliers touch your fingerā¦.trust me, Youāre clearly never been hurt badly in your life to say something that stupid
@Thespirit what do you mean ? do you know how it feels to wait 25 years in a cell just to be told no everytime you have a parole meeting i think you underestimate the mental state of people sentenced to life in prison
@xtension xward do you know how it feels to wait 25 years in a cell for a parole hearing? Yeah I highly doubt it. If you answer yes then your either lying or are sympathetic to people like this. I'd much rather know their is no chance that they will get a chance to do it again. So tell me why you think having a chance to get out in 25 is OK in your book.
@Thespirit you are pushing your anger not sympathy .. nothing wrong with anger there is just healthy anger and then there is anger related with your personal issues ...
@xtension xward all anger is personal. If the issue doesn't hit you personally then it wouldn't anger you. This does anger me and no it's not unhealthy. It's actually a normal response to this topic. The abnormal response is that of impartial to this subject. Even lawyers have a difficult time upholding their responsibilities of defending someone like this. So again you go ahead and think what you will. I'm under no illusion as to my anger on this issue.
Seems light in my humble opinion but I'm obviously not Canadian and such a sentence may be the norm there. If this guys is still proclaiming his innocence till this day, he shouldn't get parole eligibility until he's eligible for social security.
@xtension xward its funny you jump to the emotional exaggeration and not the root. All I truly asked for is to remove their hope. As in life without the possibility of parole.
@Thespirit " All I truly asked for is to remove their hope" that line would never come out of a person who isnt an extremist you completely miss the point of prison .. its not for people like you to scratch the itch of their psychotic sense of justice . the purpose of prison and jail is to punish and prevent things like that from happening . i dont think that any psychopath would go like : oh its not without parole so im cool with 25 years of jail ...
@Althea paxton he will get life, but in Canada we don't have an open ended sentence like the USA. He will be eligible for parole in 25 years, but chances are pretty excellent he will never get parole
What if I told you there are people in Government positions of power doing this to children regularly who you probably voted for either directly or indirectly at some stage in your life?
@John Danher 1) Your comment is borderline off topic. 2) How do you vote indirectly? 3) I'm not surprised that people in politics have done things close to this. 4) No I've never voted anyone in office. None of them I would trust with my kids so how could I trust them with my country.
Totally agree. We pay millions just to convict and in prison them. How about total reenactment of the horror the little girl endured, and save the money? Win/win.
@Captain Price treat others the way you wish to be treated! They asked for it! They set the ground for their own punishment. No one forced them to make the decisions they made. No one needs to suffer! no one, but the ones that find pleasure in destroying innocents.
@Thespirit Thank you. In a way, she is almost more vile than he is. Hope the parole board does the right thing in 25 years, for the sake of everyone who is still alive on earth by then.
@jashna kapadia no the world if full of good people. Just a handful of them are beyond saving in my eyes. I'd like to believe the majority are great at heart and only wish to better their lives and others.
@Karol Pasiut I understand your point. Of course we canāt go torturing people for any crime, whether as part of state sanctioned punishment or by people pursuing extrajudicial retribution. But letās say that a vigilante did get ahold of a guy like this, whether in prison or on the street, and hurt him really bad and murdered him to make him suffer for raping and murdering a little girl. I still wouldnāt judge that personās actions as being just as morally reprehensible as the actions of the person he was trying to punish. They might both be crimes committed for some type of āsatisfactionā, as you argue, but they just arenāt the same.
@Jesse Barnes this is all understandable. We all want that kind of justice when we hear about those crimes. But that doesnāt mean itās a good idea.
Torturing someone even if justified, for most people would be a trauma they would regret.
My point is that legal punishment is not a vengance and it shouldnāt be. Itās designed to minimize crime and on the same time allow criminals to resocialize if possible.
More cruel punishment wonāt deter criminals. If you do something despite the possibility of live inprisonment - you probably would do it no matter what, hoping of getting away or not thinking about consequences at all.
@Karol Pasiut I donāt disagree with anything that you just said. However, when you said that both crimes would be committed for the satisfaction of the perpetrators, it seemed that you were equating them, at least in some ways. I was simply making the point that, though both crimes might for good reason be unacceptable in our society, the one can still be justifiably be considered worse, morally.
Wanting THAT makes you just as fucked up as the criminals. You would take pleasure in someone else's suffering, suffering for YOUR PLEASURE. Tell me how you're different from the killer? He did the same. He was ok with that girl suffering for the sake of his pleasure. You are the same.
@vee kay the difference is she didn't want to hurt anyone. And until he did it neither did I. He made his decision based on his own pleasures. I'm just returning in kind.
@vee kay wanting to see someone suffer for having caused intense pain for others is not as fucked up as wanting to cause innocent people that intense pain in the first place. Itās just not. Wanting to see someone thoroughly punished, even badly hurt, for evil things that the person has done does not make you just as evil. It just doesnāt. You can take moral issue with people acting on this impulse, and you can certainly argue that our justice system shouldnāt operate that way, but theyāre just not the same. One desire comes from a desperate need to see the world set right, and the other comes from far more evil instincts and impulses. In one situation, thereās the desire to see someone suffer precisely because the person being hurt is guilty. In the other, thereās the desire to see someone suffer precisely because the person being hurt is innocent and vulnerable. Those are just not the same thing.
I remember a story out of Russia a month or so ago. A fatherās āfriendā molested his son or daughter, canāt remember. They found this friend buried with 28 stab wounds to his back. The father was let off and it was ruled a suicide. We should start treating these situations in a similar manner.
unfortunately this why the law can't be riddled with emotions. If that was the case we would still have the death penalty in Canada. we would have insane laws like 3 strikes like the good ol USA. it's a terrible situation. now if you want to take the law into your own hands just know the consequences you are about to endure.
@Rook insane laws like three strikes? So you believe repeat offenders should get the same punishment on their tenth time as they did on their first? As Albert Einstein said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result". We are in a world governed by emotions. Fear, Anger, Love or Compassion drive everyone. You attempt to separate them from your decisions but thats fear telling you emotion is wrong. You don't put your hand in fire because you Fear the pain. You'll do anything to protect the ones you Love. So if applying stricter and more unorthodox punishment has a better outcome by pressing fear then why not? Because 3 hots and a cot is not a punishment.
@nemonucliosis not only do you throw a non sequitur into a conversation no one is having with you; But you then need to use ad hominem attacks to feel big about yourself. Like I said before you only want drama.
@Y. Tho "you are a sick fuck Michael" he said in a delicate and loving voice
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@harry nac these police tricks are not confidential information. And if you watch the JCS Stephanie Lazarus video you can see that guilty people who know the tricks still cant fake it. If you're guilty then it does not matter if you watched some yt videos beforehand
@harry nac You're not wrong, but I'd have to refer you to the Stephanie Lazarus video, where he talks about how yeah, foresight of police interrogation tactics can help someone, as in a suspect is better off knowing them, but no matter how much you do know, being in the interrogation room is quite a different bag. Knowledge of criminal psychology can help us when trying to decipher if someone is guilty or not, so while you're not at all wrong, I'd say that it's not entirely that simple, and the benefits outweigh the drawbacks, at least in my opinion.
@harry nac What part of "right to remain silent" and "anything you say can and will be used against you" don't you understand? It's pretty straightforward. Don't talk to them. That's all you need to know. Why do you think Casey Anthony got off? She never talked. Ever. Her interrogations are full of her spouting nothing helpful. Making people up. Casting reasonable doubt. She was smarter than people give her credit for.
Of course he personally didn't think of it this way, but he didn't want to come in to the room swinging the bat so to speak. Gotta do what you can to get the person across from you to open up as much as possible. Pure interrogation techniques.
@harry nac i think under such stress and pressure, even a crimial wouldn't be able to remember and act accordingly to avoid falling into all these "tricks".
@harry nac They also have this video of the cop that falls for exactly the same manipulation she's trained in and ultimately admitting to murder. If you are in this situation and you are guilty you will have a hard time, no matter how smart or educated on police work you are. Ultimately, if guilty, your best option is to just not talk to the police at all anyway and every criminal already knows that.
It says at the start of the video why this tactic was used. All police officers use this tactic. He's not downplaying the crime, he is using psychology to get a confession or to at least talk about what happened.
@UppyMcDowny you say that but we literally have hundreds of thousands of confessions thanks to these techniques so at what point do you understand that maybe these techniques have a value and place?
@weEVIL I never said these techniques don't have a value and a place. I was replying to a commenter who said that "these videos are helping criminals learn police interrogation techniques so they can protect themselves against them." Which is dumb because a criminal would never need to study police interrogation techniques because if they were smart they would just refuse to speak with police without an attorney present. Luckily for us, there's plenty of criminals stupid enough to waive those rights and sing like birds.
I almost laughed. Carl or Lenny in a Simpsons episode says "That's why pencils have erasers" and they're talking about Germany being a nice country and referring to some need-not-mention history. Thought it was very clever then.
That's part of what they are supposed to do. There is a ton of psychology involved in interrogation. What's really amazing is that these detective's have to be able to pretty much guess what strategy to use because everyone is different. There are certain general rules of thumb but still they can't interrogate different people the same way. It's a very fascinating profession.
Itās a way of establishing rapport. To gain the suspects trust or enough trust to confide in the detective, they must be able to relate to the detective
"I haven't eaten since noon" spoken in a slightly strong tone indicates to me his sense of self importance, it's as if everyone is supposed to be more horrified at the fact he hasn't eaten all day than the crime he committed on a young human being. amazing.
I know this isn't really related, but there's something engrained in culture about providing food/hospitality for people regardless of circumstances. I'm a nurse and sometimes it feels like half my job is telling people why we can't give them food. Like, 4 hours ago you were literally dead, Cheryl, your snackies can wait until after we know you don't need emergency surgery.
Is it just me or did that yellow blanket look and sound like those plastic-y tablecloths you get to keep your table clean when youāre doing painting and stuff?
@OSSS Boys Iād hate to have a job that has me lie for a living. There is no way that can be fulfilling. Do yourself a favor and go do something that doesnāt involve dishonesty. You will thank yourself in the end.
You can't get positive attention so you settle for negative attention. You can change and have real intimate meaningful relationships. You dont have to settle. You just have to have the courage to be honest with yourself and others. You just have to be sincerely you. You are not a piece of garbage. There are people who will accept and love the real you.
@Vachagan Balayan probably not hell other than being locked up.. no one from gp would ever be able to touch this guy he is in protective custody, as are most of these sickos
Towards the end of the video around 53 mins (but about 3:20:xx according to the interrogation camera) the detective remarks the interrogation has only just lasted about as long as the abduction/sexual assault/murder. I say give him the full amount of time and allow any other interested parties a fair chance at him when dad needs a breather.
And then what? Live with a murder on your mind on top of your lost child? I don't know man, I'm not sure that would bring closure. Even killing the man won't bring back your kid... The best thing you can do is make sure this never happens.
Guys, justice needs to be civil, even if the crime is anything but. Even brutal murderers should be treated with the level of professionalism that is displayed in this video. The violence of the state should only be to minimize the total violence under the state.
The only problem is the possibility of doing that to an innocent person by mistake, which is part of why the US constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment.
@notabagel You are right. When you beat and shame people, you create real monsters. Some people who commit these crimes are seriously mentally ill, and even if they are sane and just evil, beating them ill only teach them how to be violent in daily life. Compassion and education have lead to recidivism lower than 30% in some european countries such as Norway, even for repeat high ranking offenders, but in places like the US where recidivism is often very high, like 70%, prisoners are beaten, shamed, raped by other prisoners, and treated like animals. The difference is astounding.
Them chained up, the father and mother picking from a lil arsenal of the weapons they used for the murder. If its a hammer, blunt objects, if it was a firearm, a couple of guns
I personally don't understand why it seems like these sick freaks have more rights than the helpless babies they target. Imo personally I think there are enough humans on this planet already, It should be about protecting the children, they deserve better.
@Kit Culver they have rights because you have rights. Even if they are monsters, they deserve to be treated to a fair trial etc. Its not about having more rights than anyone else, it's about everyone having the same rights. Its deplorable what this person has done, but they are a person all the same and deserve to be sentenced just like you would want to be treated and sentenced for a crime. Vigilante justice only works in the comic books. Think about your rights if you committed a crime, would you want those waived so whomever you wronged could "punish" you? We have a justice system for that exact reason. Yes, it seems to protect monsters, but it also protects us when we are a part of it
But yeah, I've often thought the same thing. They should allow everyone who loved the victim, to hit, punch, bite, etc. The monster, at least 1 time. Then, IF they survive that, live out the rest of their days in solitary, or pay one of the most violent, life term inmates to do the exact same thing to the monster, as it did to the victim.
@notabagel honestly, I agree with you. It really is better that that doesn't happen. But sometimes, (especially after watching videos like this one.) its nice to imagine, and make believe, that these horrible people would get what most of the public feels is their REAL due. The price they should really have to pay.
In my make believe version, this kind of punishment would only be applicable to child predators, and some violent rapes of adults. (Not all rapes, as there are some sketchy gray areas that are considered, "rape" when really it may have been a misunderstanding. Or whatever.) I don't think that kind of thing should be applied to all law breakers. Just those who have basically thrown out their soul already, by preying on innocent, helpless, and TRUSTING children.
Yeah these interrogation videos all have that in common. The detectives are good at just constantly talking, even if theyāre not saying anything new, even if theyāre just repeating the same sentiments over and over again in different words. Itās so the suspect just gets worn down and gives in and so they suspect doesnāt fall into an easy silence. Itās harder to stay quiet when someone is just constantly badgering you. They have to talk constantly.
@XZ Seriously, this was annoying as HELL to hear in rapid fire for so long. He must've known it was extremely wearing to listen to and did it on purpose, but as an observer it was still hard!
Seriously though whatever that detectives getting paid isn't enough lmaoo. To talk to this little fuck without dehumanizing him like the rest of us let alone providing him comfort and ease in his situation is a paid skill only he has.
They also use the tactic of talking and āramblingā so the suspect doesnāt have the chance to think of a lie. If you keep talking with no breaks, you eventually can break them down and theyāre more likely to tell the truth rather than a made up lie
Omg literally like heās the one pissing me off with this case ššš like stfuuuuu āyour credibilityā¦ credibilityā¦ CREDIBILITYāš¤¦š½āāļø
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"I know you didn't mean to kidnap this brick, but what we need to do is analyse why you did it, ok? Because the matter of the fact is that you did take that brick and now you do have to pay the consequences for your actions. I've seen many brick walls like you and everyone likes to assume that they took bricks out of pure evilness. But I know that deep down, you're just a brick wall. You didnt mean to take that brick to hurt anyone, you took that brick because you wanted to extend your wall, ok? But what we need to do now is figure out if you will take bricks again. So I'm here to not only find out what brought you to that breaking point, but also to give you a chance to talk about your side of view. People will think the worst until you speak up. They'll think you've taken hundreds of bricks. It's not important that you took a brick, it's important why, ok? Brick walls like you don't belong in prison, but sometimes it's necessary. Anyways,"
Its smart though because he's breaking into his mental, putting all of that back on his shoulders, so he can't just break it off and act like it didn't happen. Its bringing it into the front of his mind. Good way to get someone to break or they will hold it in and kill themselves mentally.
Mobri thatās the point. Itās meant to be annoying and hard to listen to because by the time heās finished that shit stick is gonna be too mentally exhausted to stand up for himself and try to look innocent.
Odd as it may be that's what it takes to be a great detective. He's a natural. He was smart and meticulous with assessing behaviour. Compared to detectives I saw that didn't know much and just went ahead with what they thought would work. I remember that case with a stalker murdering a girl in her room, the guys assigned to that case might've caused the suspect to get away with it.
It claimed in the video it was to prevent dissociation and time to thinkā¦. But I was dissociating all the way through it and zoning out not hearing anything he is rambling on aboutā¦. I am use to narc abuse my abuser used this method to prevent us from thinking
That's the ethos that RCMP is using to get them to confess! They talk constantly so they do t give a chance to the criminal to form any thoughts they wear them out so they can give up and confess Shit! I am tired of listening to him myself, can tou imagine what and how this criminal feels? He is going to break down in few minutes!
@The Hanging Parsiple Giles Iāve read all the comments up until now and this is by far the best one Iāve read yet. The āfidget like a bastardā part had me rolling š
Rapeing and killing young children is the absolute worst thing that some1 can do. Lock them up for life, for what? A quick execution by the state, why? The parents/family now have to suffer for the rest of their lives, knowing that their loved one is forever gone and went through absolute hell in their final moments. In my opinion, the parents of the victim should be allowed to personally carry out the execution and by their own preferred method. That is the only thing that could give them any sense of closure, if any at all. That is the one and only true justice for such a disgusting, heinous crime.
That method of "chipping away at a suspect's psychological stamina" through relentless questioning, psychological manipulation, and the suggestion that "we already know you did it, we have the evidence, just confess already" has seen its fair share of scrutiny. It's a controversial strategy because it could be argued that the suspect has been tricked into confessing under false pretense. Suspects are sometimes near-retard level intelligence and just get bamboozled into giving up their right to an attorney and admitting to everything. Detective Smyth himself has gotten into hot water and had a prosecution fail because of these methods. Don't get me wrong, I think he's great. But I can see how others in law enforcement might disapprove since it hinges on getting someone who hasn't been proven guilty to forego their rights to a fair defense, and may actually result in them being found innocent.
@pCeLobster Good point. I keep thinking of those two cops who basically harassed that asian girl until she ended up convicted for killing her little brother--- which she didn't actually do, and she was eventually released. Still, I am glad I know this cop's name now, I want to see more from Jim Smyth.
I think that the blanket which was given to him, helped him in not cooperating with the interrogation. He curled up in his own space and it made easier to ignore the psychological pressure the first cop was tryna make him go thru
That sketch was amazing, I was like nah no one looks like that, then the immediate switch to the actual woman right after, was damn near spot on. Incredible talent those people have
I heard somewhere (maybe on Jim's channel lol) that in those sketches they really ham up any abnormal facial features. So if the person they're sketching has a slightly larger than normal nose, they give them a huge nose in the sketch, or if they have a small gap in the teeth, they sketch it as a huge gap, and apparently this actually makes the sketch stick in people's minds and has an increased chance of the person being recognized.
Miranda rights are in the US, not Canada- our "right to an attorney" regulations are a bit different. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know the specifics that well.
@J B Just type in the time. For example 0:01 is one second, 01:00 is one minute, 01:00:00 is one hour and so forth. You have to pause the video and look at the time that you want on the time bar.
The last like 5 minutes were just savage. The rest was like... you too easy. Now too hard. Well that won't work. Then the last bit like ohhh damnnnn!!!!
I will never understand why grown men and women can go and lure a child away and then do the things this guy did. I hold the same feeling about people who take animals and then torture them. When they get caught they usually say they don't know why they did it which just makes me even more angry and frustrated. I would bring back the Brazen Bull method of execution for people like this because they get used to jail after about 4-5 yrs as their expectations diminish greatly and in death they don't suffer anything at all. At least The Brazen Bull would make child murderers think twice.
Those of you who believe people are good but just make bad choices.....spare me. There is nothing in this man that is good. People are evil, Only God can change that.
@N S If theres one thing you should learn from this channel, it's that the police want justice and understand that they need to manipulate the environment and the suspect to gather information and force a confession. The police are being "friendly" because it benefits them (and society). That person interviewing that guy probably thought he was pathetic and a monster from the moment he got the case details. All he cares about is putting that guy behind bars, and if that means acting friendly and subtly manipulating him into confessing, then he will do that.
if you walk into an interrogation room and treat the person like absolute garbage and you don't have the evidence to back it up, you can potentially let a monster back out on to the streets because they'll identify you as an enemy, ask for a lawyer and then shut the fuck up until he arrives. People forget cops are doing their job when they're being friendly and are less likely to lawyer up and not share their lies.
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arqon_ I understand the interrogation dynamics perfectly! I think we were all simply speaking to the fact that this guy who is beyond despicable, was being babied ad nauseam! That isnāt to say we donāt understand why police officers appear friendly, or even empathetic.. it is all understood to be tactics used, to ensure that pos like that guy! Never has the chance to reoffend. My comment was based on that, not to imply that all monsters should all be roughed up had thrown around.
@N S it's called good cop bad cop for a reason. It's a strategy. And it's also to cover their butts for liability. It's the humane way to engage with a human who committed even a heinous crime. Otherwise every day would turn into fights. But once they give you every last chance, boom.
@N S It's fine, what if he turned out to be innocent. You're talking as if the cops already knew that he was guilty. Of course we all know that he is (probably) guilty now due to this video coming out after the verdict.
@Comfi "the police want justice" and that's why they use the same manipulation tactics on accused they know to be innocent? At the end of the day, all they want is the prestige of knowing their interrogation was so good, it jailed a person.
I don't believe in the death penalty. I believe in putting these guys in prison where they're forced to do manual labor jobs that normal people shouldn't risk their lives for with no pay, no privileges, nothing, and they get food they make themselves with scraps from the rest of society since that's what they want to act like. They deserve to never know what good life feels like, and instead should feel like life isn't worth living every. single. day.
@Erica Mercado lol cops will say anything regardless of evidence. Just watch the innocent till proven guilty video or the don't talk to the police speech. Also I find it hilarious how serious people have taken my comment.
i got so much satisfaction when the 2nd detective came in and threw the photos at him, started swearing and showing that no ones going to put up with his silent bullshit
first detective: "so yknow, mistakes happen, you just need to explain is all" second detective: casually walks in "so heres the photos of that girl you killed."
it would be interesting to see an interrogation between a suspect who actually is innocent but police really thought was guilty bc then you could see the difference in reactions between a guilty and innocent individual.
Not so fun fact: Teri Lynn, the woman who lead the girl to the car, had it brought up in court that she microwaved a dog to death when she was a minor.
I thought she was worse than him due to the fact that it was her spinelessness that lead to her luring and abducting the little girl. Where as he has something wrong with him to want to do that. It is spinelessness people that enable systemic evil eg Nazi gas chambers. But if she did that as a child to a dog. She is also a psychopath. She may have instigated the whole situation?
@Oli Hallam I wonder where your spine is, when EU Nations let thousands of people drown in Mediterranean Sea. Where is your spine, when the US is excusing missed targeted drone strikes as collateral damage? Where is your spine when Myanmar junta is violently striking down protest against their unlawful putsch, when China throws Uyghurs into
internment camps, when Israel forcefully expulses the palestinian people, when in Sudan thousands of children get abducted and forced to become soldiers? It is easy to point fingers on German population and ask: Why didn't they do anything? They knew, they stayed silent, they are guilty. But there are crimes against humanty going on right now, every mayor political power is eigher supporting or at least condoning at least some of those crimes. And noone, you an me included, can claim for themselves: I didn't know. All I can claim is, I feel powerless against this, what about you? And guess what, exactly this feeling is, how gas chambers could have been operated right under the people's eyes.
@MeghanF93 not necessarily. There are straight down psychopaths with loving families and others with extremely heavy context that do not behave like these pos.
Sometimes my paranoid brain is like āone day ur gonna commit a bad crime and go to jail!!!!ā And then Iām like you know what I could literally never do? Microwave a dog
Man, after this, Dear Zachary, and Don't F**k with Cats, I'm positive that there are only two types of Canadians; Absolute cold blooded psychopaths, and wonderfully kind upstanding citizens.
@ProneToFacepalm i agree but i wish we could know the full extent of why this people enjoy this type of evil behavior. It goes beyond the brain in my opinion, is as if they were destined to be that person.
@MeghanF93 NOT. Phsycopaths are born...events and trauma can make them worse of course but they are born incapable of feeling empathy for living beings š as a matter of fact, cruelty towards animals shown at a young age is one of the hallmarks of phsycopathy.
Her mom was a stripper and gave her away to her stripper friend. The woman raised her as her own child. Her brother (not blood brother, but they were raised as siblings)says she's in a free range resort prison because she's claiming to be indigenous. He says she is no more indigenous than he is a green alien from Mars. He then went on to Say she deserves death for what she's done.
@Craig donāt be a crazy vegan pls. I imagine most people just want animals to be treated humanely before being euthanized. Also a lot of people donāt have the money to be vegan or buy meat from farms that treat animals well.
@Blooper Dooper you dont have to be vegan to see the double standards of some people here.
She microvaved a puppy --> "go to hell"
People pay other people to doe a horrible 6 month torture to an animal with the same social and psychological behaviour and capability as a dog. --> "ah well... you know... its tasty, cheap and nutricious and stuff..."
and the second one isnĀ“t even done for satisfying a striking unbelievable strong desire induced by a distorted brain illness. Its just to fulfil a simple nice taste and an easy meal by a person fully concious with a healthy brain.
I am not vegan by myself but this is just applying double standards to not face the behaviour of oneself.
(btw sorry for the bad english, thats not my mothers tongue, and I dont live in an english speaking country)
Damn... I am watching this now and was wondering to myself "Why did this women decide to help a perve abduct a child? Why what did she get out of it" but it sounds like she had some issues smh
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the dude2021-06-19 06:43:48 (edited 2021-06-19 06:48:22 )
@Oli Hallam they're was only six concentration camps instructed, with the purpose of extermination. Super easy to hide. The camps were modeled as political internment camps to house political extremists. such as like those that America used on the Asian citizens for 5 years during the war or Russia's gulags. The national socialist never had any written documents or plans to exterminate said race and they never openly advocated for the extermination of said race. They did advocate for the deportation, but not extermination. so the public was very oblivious and most of the soldiers were oblivious. there was only a handful of people in that regime that knew about it. you'd have to be very dense to believe that an entire nation just went along with something like that knowingly. Course it's the same as people being oblivious to the Chinese internment camps that house over a million Muslims, which are actually just death camps today or the horrors of the Russian gulags that in truth were death camps for political prisoners during the Soviet Union's regime.
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the dude2021-06-19 06:56:38 (edited 2021-06-19 07:05:10 )
@Oli Hallam China's great leap forward saw the death of 50 million people in 4 years. Russia caused the death of 12 million ukraines with controlled famines in one year in 1933. America dropped two nukes on densely populated cities in Japan killing over 300,000 civilians just so they could test out the nukes. Even though the Soviet Union was already advancing in Japan and securing a surrender. they broadcasted that on the news in American and people celebrated the death of 300,000 innocent civilians. That's evil. That makes the Nazis look like children. Yet most people are oblivious to things like that and they choose not to try it figure out or do anything about it. You don't want to even know, what's going on in present day. most people on this Earth are accessible to horrific things cuz they choose to stay oblivious and ignorant to the truth.
@Prinegon Bevaris Most people will always have a hard time admitting to themselves their cheap moral categorizations of others are mostly there to protect their ego, and their silly notions of moral self-righteousness. Nobody wants to think that if they were alive in germany in the late '30s, they would have most likely been nazis, and silently complicit in the holocaust. Nobody wants to think that, if they are alive today, they are complicit in a system of global oppression and violence that would make the nazi look like silly cosplayers
@Prinegon Bevaris just think if that's wat we know about how things are. Wat about the things we dont know wats going on. A lot more shit goes on then we can even contiplate.
@John Ocampo I sometimes think that were living are lives on a rollercoaster and were just the passengers strapped to the ride with no getting off or turning in your own direction.
Apparently the 3 main pillars to serial murder are animal abuse, arson, and bed wetting. Most serial murderers have done these 3 things in their childhood
āSeeing you squirm and put u through some of the grief u put that girl in .. and Iām having a good timeā thatās the kind of detective iād like on every case.
Holy shit this guy must practice these long monologues at home, because I just know I would start to stutter and "um" a lot to fill the gaps if I have to communicate with psychopaths. What a legend
@Marlow P he does say um, but not as much as most other people would if made to talk non stop without any response. Maybe youre better at this idfk but generally alot of people struggle with talking so much. It takes either talent or effort
@F0X_H0UND thatās why these guys exist. They are from the behavioral bureau and their goal is to learn from these individuals to predict, prevent and stop future criminalities like these.
@Dana Smith start slow, just make a conscious note every time you do it, then try to just not say anything. Embrace the silence. Silence is powerful in a speech. On a side note, instead of um he uses other filler word
As a long time fan of JCS, I'm not that way, but it's awesome that a bunch of people have found the channel! Some of the best content on youtube, and the best in criminal psychoanalysis
Itās so funny because a buddy I hadnāt seen in a long time met up with me and it came up randomly that we both had started watching a criminal psychology YouTube channel because of a video we saw about the parkland shooting kid a few days ago lol
welcome to the world of re bing watching JCS everytime he make a video. I re watch every video everytime since the first which was the legend of Jeff. Btw Jeff has a yt channel and makes music and pretty touching videos.
Make sure to check his patreon, it has some amazing videos, my favorite one is on Alex Minassian, The Patreon is only 1 dollar and no longer advertised as they do not post new videos there anymore.
Yes. Sounds almost like a conspiracy. I'm here too for that video and i'm from Argentina, a country that belongs to that not so pretty side of the world, like Cuba, China or Venezuela
@arise thor I followed that case when it happened, watched the live Court feed daily, even subscribed to the media personnel who reported daily. I skipped the video of her here cause I already saw it all then. Glad they convicted her, she was one heck of a good actress. From a fellow watcher in šØš¦
It happened to me AND my daughter and weāre in two different states. She called to tell me to look up a new YouTube channel and I said OH!! I have one for you too!! Same one. Weird algorithm but apparently we all wanted to watch this. lol
That was the first one I saw too! I've been following him now for only three days, and i LOVE it! I wasn't even into criminology sociology, and now i LOVE it!
Out of all the videos on this channel I find this one of the hardest to watch. Watching him sit there feeling sorry for himself knowing what he did to that little girl and how afraid she must have been in her last moments makes me sick to my stomach. How that woman lured that little girl away knowing she would be harmed Iāll never understand. An evil and senseless act on an innocent little girl. Every parents worst nightmare.
you know what made this video arguably harder for me? the interrogator being so understanding and kind. im absolutely fully aware that he had to, to do his interrogating, but its not any less frustrating to see someone even PRETEND to be empathetic toward someone so vile.
Agreed. The urge to torture this monster mercilessly is so so strong, goodness knows how the detective was able to pretend to have any empathy to lower his guard.
@Scarlet Woman what are you talking about I never said I sided with him being not guilty I said the jury was dumb to say that he was not guilty implying that I think he was guilty
Magnolia Street TV Yes, Detective Jim Symth, a legend. The way he psychologically broke Colonel Williams down was brilliant.....one of the best interrogations Iāve ever seen.
@Magnolia Street TV I had a hard time watching this but I just saw a few segments of the interrogation. I could only see the top of the detective's head-but his voice and tactics sounded familiar. Now I know why!
that eraser cant erase what happened and whats going to happen. Cant compare spelling mistakes to "mistakenly" sexually assaulting and killing a child. I get the comparison, i get the meaning. i get that they use that tactic to lessen the actual crime they committed so they confess but still. i dont know. this case really gets me. i guess all do that involve children and especially when it ends like this. theres just no excuses, no mistakes, no nothing. this guy deserves honestly for someone to get medieval on his a. but anyways. RIP Tori. you have the same name as my little sister and i just couldnt imagine... im so sorry and rest easy little girl. God, please be wrapping your arms around her to this day comforting her in heaven because now she would be 21 and just getting started on life... this pos took everything. everything from this girl.
He's barely sat down and is already crying and sniffling at the fact he knows he's caught... then does nothing but lament HIS life and not the innocent 8-year old's that HE STOLE. He deserves no sympathy, and how DARE he try to get any.
I just find all sympathy to be gross and attention grabbing behavior. Not even when people try to have sympathy for other people. Sympathy is for the weak. Get your shit together or ask for help. But yeah. He is a terrible terrible man.
Edit: yāall donāt really get what i was trying to say. I feel like sympathy is useless. I would much rather help someone else with their problems or fix my problems by myself instead of sitting there crying or seeking attention from someone else. I think it is disgusting to get attention like that. Call me a sociopath, I donāt really give a fuck. Just deal with your damn problems or ask for help. Sitting there and crying and using it to get attention isnāt gonna solve your problems.
It is heartbreaking. The poor child does not get to make a mistake and learn from it because of this guy. The child will not get a tea, a doughnut and a blanket all because of him.
The 8 year olds life is pretty irrelevat, they are already dead, so yeah only what happens to him now matters. One life alread lost, hes just waiting to see if his life is lost too, protect what you can.
@Mr. Bubbles It's heroin withdrawal. I haven't seen this acknowledged anywhere yet, is it really not obvious to everyone? Or perhaps just an unimportant side note.
Dude it drives me crazy how people that commit these types of crimes will do them and then cry when they get caught! Like how tf are you ābig & badā enough to do something so heinous but then you cry about it when you get caught? No. Disgusting
It is interesting how you also say he deserves no sympathy. I was just explaining to my partner that in most of the videos on this channel I somehow had some kind of sympathy for the perpetrator, at least I could pity them somehow... For this guy, I literally have nothing but rage.
@Frederik L. yeah, i noticed that too. It's just so dumb and inmature to think like that. That way of thinking it's gonna get him in trouble for dumb things. Emphaty it's one of the most important emotions and he didn't even bring a logical argument.. is just "i can do whatever i want mom! You don't control my emotions!" I never seen a person under the age of 20 saying that emphaty it's useless. I hope he grow up and change his way of thinking
@Poopy poop Poop I agree, empathy is better. Itās basically āletās fix this togetherā, which works much better and strengthens the bond between people as well. Sympathy seems to be mostly selfish, because people want to look like they truly care, when itās only words, not actions.
@Poopy poop Poop the main reason is probably because people donāt like to get the truth āyelledā at them. The phrasing was a little aggressive, but the message was correct.
Been working at er psych sorry for spelling, Iām Ukrainian dum dum. Poop I get what you are saying but you also have a good side when you said āget some help.ā There is sympathy that might be useless however you canāt help without sympathy those two are connected. This here does not need sympathy and this case is just that too brutal. Still many things need sympathy unless you are trying to break the person. To say sympathy is always useless Is plane wrong and poop unless you saying get help is just you trying to show your not a compliant ass or you do actually have sympathy.
@Diego well, I donāt really like the idea of sympathy anyways. Regardless if you are a terrible piece of trash like this man. I would much rather deal with my own problems or help someone with theirs. Crying about it or feeling sorry for someone doesnāt accomplish anything.
@Ruslan Tsybulsky well I donāt have āsympathyā fix your problems or just ask for some help when you need it. Donāt sit there and use your despair to grab attention. It isnāt gonna make your problems go away.
@John Kordulak No it not an excuse and I 'm definitely not ok with it. I was responding to a comment that said he looked like he was in opiate withdrawal. I don't need to wake up. Perhaps if you'd read the comment I'd responded to you would know that. I'm offended that you think I would make excuses for that piece of garbage.
@Lordoa that isnāt true. Yt loves shutting down things so sometimes I and many other people go on to yt and find that their account got taken down. It will say things like āauthentication errorā and no videos or comments will show up. It has happened 5 times to me. And so what I donāt like sympathy??? That doesnāt mean i am immature. Being immature is crying about your problems and using it to grab attention. That doesnāt solve anything. Dealing with your problems or asking for help with them is much better than sitting there and crying hoping someone will say āpoor babyā or something like that.
Yet another child lost. Her junkie egg donor didn't bother to report her. It was probably easy to induce her into the car. Junkie kids are doomed. Exposed to a never ending revolving door of random strangers. Usually dumped on grandparents.
He would probably have to provide food of some sort. If he doesn't any testimony may be tossed if a judge thinks it was made under duress. Is it just, eh probably not, but it's a small thing to do to protect a confession.
@mydemonswontleavemealone I'm just saying for the interview they have to do that. In prison they have to focus on reform which they never do and I disagree. But you can't be too lenient with a murderer, do you think they deserve nothing to happen to them and they don't need to be kept off the street for at least the safety of others? And you assume a lot about a person just off of one comment. For someone that considers the variety of mindsets that's a bit hypocritical right?
@Stef S "Look bud, just finish up your Timmy's, give me a guilty plea for this here ah child murder, and we'll go home n' watch some trailer park boys, how 'bout it eh?"
A lot of people would confess just to get the officer to shut up. I can't believe how much he's talking. It's quite a talent, but I guess he's throwing whatever he can at the wall to see if anything sticks, i.e. get a reaction of some kind. Once he gets a reaction, he knows what direction to take it.
@Austin Sellers That might be taking it a bit too far. This cases gets so much coverage because those things doesn't happen every day. They do happen, but very rarely. Overall, statistically speaking, our time is the safeties it has ever been before.
It is so true... when I was a child I almost got kidnapped because someone asked me if I wanted to see a cute puppy, and trust me, I wanted to see that puppy, but something told me that it was not a good idea and I decided that the puppy was not that important at the moment.
@Doug When I was a kid, I was following an adult because he thought I needed help. I indeed needed help finding my mom, but I didn't know what to do. This was after school just ended, so I didn't think he was a threat when there were all these people here. The moment he told me to get in the car my heart sank. I immediately knew the reality I was in. There was a stranger danger alert a few weeks ago, and it did scare me a bit, but I didn't think much of it after a while.
10 years later and I'm still quite traumatized by that. I have major issues trusting people, even after knowing them for years. I always have a small feeling they're going to backstab me. Quite literally the only people I trust are my family members, 2 cousins, and 3 friends.
I will never want any children to be scared as I was, nor do I want them to be in that situation. It's so disgustingly unpleasant and dark.
Aya Shayeb yes, she did. She was an equal participant in Toriās abduction. Also, it was Terri-Lynn McClintock that actually killed Tori. She is the one that kicked Tori, breaking her ribs and damaging Toriās internal organs as well as smashing her head with the hammer. I actually live fairly close to Woodstock and Iāve done a lot of research on Toriās case. The details haunt me to this day and I wish I didnāt find out what I didā¦
@Austin Sellers ironically they have watches that do just that, I work with kids and I see a lot of them. They sell watches that look like digital watches that little boys like and they seem like a normal watch but are trackers. Idk what they do for little girls but Iām glad they sell things like those out there. Will definitely get stuff like that for my kids when I have them.
@lynda reyes those pet "chips" are passive integrated transponders (PIT). They don't allow tracking over distance. They don't contain batteries and only transmit info when in close contact to a PIT reader. Tiny active radio frequency transmitters exist, but they are not rechargeable and their signal strength is fairly low making long distance tracking difficult. GPS tags exist, but the battery tech required for constant real time tracking would mean the device would have to be large and not easily disguised.
and all she wanted to do is have a party with her friends because her mom redecorated her room. like... i have no words. that's what's going on in an innocent eight year olds life. those are the only years where they should be oblivious to the evils of the world and only focus on friends and school and just being a kid. SO SO heartbreaking. crimes against children is a form of the devil himself.
@lynda reyes chips in animals just shows the reader the owner's information. and if you don't call to have it updated if you change numbers or move, you're kind of screwed :-/ it is a bit misleading, though, because it does sound like these chips locate the animal based off where they are in real time.
@Austin Sellers They exist! There is one called "tile" which is technically for finding your keys I believe, bit it works just fine as a pendant for jewellery
@Miss Zerglot yea i know tile, great idea. like glue jewelry stones all over it and wear it on a necklace. Im not sure how long the charge lasts though. It really needs to last for a week or 2 between charges or they arent going to work when the kids need it.
@Pine Hawk I.never allow my kids to be released to anybody. Same as with my father. He was there to pick us up from school, told us never to leave the front of the school until he got there. Most times he was already there when we came out. Luckily for us, our father was the newspaper guy. So he drove a car for the New Haven Register. You really have to be mindful of kids. Because of these predators that are out there.
@Austin Sellers Honestly, just informing your child not to be naive works a lot better than most people would think. Yeah gps trackers would work fine, but they already exist. Preventing the situation from happening in the first place should be the main priority.
Kids are so innocent and itās supposed to be in grown-human nature to take care of them, only for some disgusting bastard to do the worst thing imaginable. What a shame.
I saw her picture and immediately tears started rolling down my face. What evil person harms a child in any way? Any decent human being would give their own life protecting a child! I am sick of this shit!!!
10 minutes in and I'm wondering if this interogator is EVER going to shut up! Not one word spoken by the suspect yet. ....oh wait...."I didn't do anything".....leads to another monologue from the cop. We need to have a discussion! ....yes it does seems the cop is rambling... I'm already exhausted, so I guess It is wearing the guy down.
For anyone who is wondering why there is no comment.
YouTube did a lot unfair with this account, some videos were taken down. But some are back now and there is no prior comment, a warning is added that says "The following content may contain suicide or self-harm topics." then you have to proceed to watch it.
according to twitter reactions apparently JCS is done with YouTube bc of such issues. another channer named J C S was made and a few videos are uploaded there as well.
@Marta Hardt can't tell, you can follow their other channel with name "J C S" with spaces and the profile picture of that channel is a cat. It has over 400k subscribers
@Marta Hardt this channel gave us in depth analysis, so the content is just too good. People make JCS Inspired videos but no one can ever make the videos like JCS made. They are just super interesting
Terry killed Tori. Thank God she didn't get a lighter sentence because they believed her story initially. They were wrong. I mean ML is guilty too but Terry admitted to doing it.
@Tony Arcieri So men are men, but women are just "females", eh? Classic.
Also there's some good news I think you'll really be interested in: it turns out that women actually don't get lighter sentences than men do. I know, right? I was shocked, too. The truth is that there's a gazillion different factors that go into sentencing a convict, you can't just look at the gender of the convict and nothing else. There's other stuff to consider, like: did they plead out or not? Were they sentenced by a jury, or a judge? Were they a first time offender or a recidivist? Were they a major cog in the criminal operation, or just a small bit player? And so on, you get the idea.
According to the mathematical model, if women were held to the exact same sentencing guidelines as they do for men while ignoring all of those other contextualizing get factors, women would actually serve slightly LESS time in prison than they currently do.
Seriously, this is about the single most exhaustive, comprehensive, and objective breakdown of sentencing data that you're probably ever gonna find. I highly recommend that you read it. I want to add the caveat that this paper is from 2007, but if anything society has leaned even more egalitarian since that time, so it's a bit moot.
@Splitcookie713 Both of them could. They had nothing on her expect a bad sketch made from potato camera footage. If she didn't admit to it in her interrogation they may both be free to this day. The detective did an excellent job getting her to admit to these crimes. (It was the same one that interrogated Russel Williams)
@Jack Wilson I didnāt realize. I can never make it passed the first 5 minutes of these videos. Crazy to think that people can get away with crimes if they lawyer up right away or if their partner in crime keeps from talking.
@Amelia Bee Thank you ! I hate when people take a case like this, the rape and murder of a child, as some sort of means to justify their own prejudices. The truth and honesty is appreciated.
ā@Sudaro Wakatta What does your personal problem have to do with, a.) Canada, where this took place, or b.) the actual crime and that everyone involved was sentenced to equal prison terms?
Penny The Dog2021-08-10 21:02:13 (edited 2021-08-19 15:39:50 )
@Amelia Bee funny that the study you cited actually DID find that females were given more lenient sentences than men. š¤£š¤£š¤£ Did you even read it?
Did you see that she was the one that got him the hammer and when she was younger she had a bunch of stuff on her record including putting a puppy in a microwaveā¦. Disgusting human.
No, but she had since claimed to be "indigenous" and was moved from prison to a "healing lodge", probably let out since COVID, I wouldn't want to know.
She's not the one who sexually assault and murder the kid. But if she had gotten less sentence y'all would be like "OMG she got less sentence than Rafferty because she is a woman š”š”"
This is some top notch psychological "torture" at its finest. As someone else worded it, a slow psychological water board. SOB deserves every last bit of it.
literally unfathomable evil. honestly the death penalty is dumb just because it's way too lenient for these insects (to call them animals is frankly insulting to other animals)
I've got severe adhd, inattentive type, and I've got some bad news for that detective.
Especially without my meds, I wouldn't be able to concentrate on more that three words at a time. Ask any of my teachers, I'd never hear a word he said. ššāāļøš¹š”šššŖš oh, my bad. Was someone saying somethiš¦šš®š¼š£šæš§
What? I didnāt see anything top notch. Very little was effective. And the perpetrator wasnāt even fighting back hard because 90 percent of the time it was the detectives talking. Ask more questions, especially when he states that āTeri is lying.ā they never once asked him how Teri is lying. They were going for a straight admittance. Start a convo on the details. That should have been the in for a convo.
@johnsolo123456 They already had all the evidence. Court is much quicker and easier with a confession as well. No detective would be so unskilled as to chase that juvenile deflection.
@Officially HALIM I just wish there were MORE videos about MORE freak shows. Itās mind boggling That a channel thatās only been around for two years and only has a handful of videos can have 7 million subscribers.
@Shannon H. The difference between a good and a bad video is whether you can rewatch it or not. If you can't rewatch it, you obviously don't think it's a good video.
@Michael A Weirdos? Really? You do realize that that's proof on how good the videos actually are, right? If you choose to rewatch it, it means the video is actually good quality to you. If you're not willing to ever rewatch it, it means you didn't like it.
@Kadrix Thatās not the definition at all. Anybody can rewatch a video, whether they like it or not. You just sit down and watch it. Itās very possible to do that. Your statement made no sense.
@Kadrix your definitions of good and bad videos make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Many people like bad videos. And lots of people donāt like good videos. Wow.š¤¦š»āāļø
@Shannon H. no he doesnāt?? He has half of that, and why do u keep saying itās weird he has so many.. he makes good compelling long videos that have millions of views of course heās gonna have lots of subs..
His patreon is a dollar a month, and there's a bunch more videos on there. You can tell this dude knows his psychology, because he's created millions of addicts lol
@Shannon H. I think that this channel has a patrons thatās only $1 a month to get more videos and more graphic cases that YouTube would demonetize. Idk tho bc I havenāt paid for it but I did see a few other comments talking about it!
Indeed. Just so y'all know, there are lots of other channels with a similar (but definitely distinct) style to JCS. One example is Matt Orchard - Crime and Society. True Crime Loser also exists, definitely doesn't have the same style, but is very knowledgable and entertaining to listen to (just not as exciting to watch)
ā@Johnmycole If you like true crime, Kendall Rae is another one of my favorites. She uses revenue to donate to different organizations (currently Her Justice, before that it was Thorn). She takes on a lot of current cases that the media glosses over and has had family members of victims talk in her videos. Her videos are always really thorough imo
@Shannon H. no one stated a definition? Kadrix is just pointing out that if someone finds themselves rewatching something, they think it's a good video and they state as such. Like watching your favorite movie over n over, and he doesn't have 7 million subs either, that's a blatant lie on your end.
@caramel Ding! You've got it. That's spot on what I meant! If I like a video, I won't mind watching it again one day. The fact that many people could rewatch it just proves it's good content.
People who don't like it or the content isn't their cup of tea don't have to watch/rewatch. It's their choice.
@The Duncan Clan >'You watch more than one of these and youāre going to have some evil rub off on you.
The devil works in mysterious ways too. '
That's not how that works, normalization of a topic is brought about an event being downplayed which is not the case here, the only way to do that would be the viewer themselves downplaying the action. Then that's a deeper issue at hand other than a video dissecting these pieces of shit.
>'You cant dream of rapes you cant conceive of.
Now your brain knows.' Again that depends on normalization and most actually can conceive of such, quite easily, but don't because they don't want to and so they ignore it. Sometimes it'll be brought up in videos like these but are quickly smothered as to not take a long-term affect, though this can't be said for those with OCD, but they aren't to be blamed for that.
>'... and yes some argument can be made āoh but itās good to know ! To defend ourselves!ā
Well thereās a damn reason fear is not a virtue. Your desire to defend yourself by associating with this sick shit, you end up promegating it.' That's not how that works either, I'll agree normalization is a slippery slope and people can use this an excuse, but people researching on how to avoid it doesn't mean they're becoming a part of the problem. That's like saying someone who's well education on say, cancer, is then into cancer. This doesn't make sense and taking a few steps back, you come off as trying to limit knowledge on these topics.
>' Even if that promegation stays in your own head.
Iām ashamed I watched this to the end.' promegation isn't a word.
Kim Slater2021-06-30 04:31:42 (edited 2021-06-30 04:49:25 )
Absolutely!! Iām glad I refound them! I thought they were done after Patreon went down. Epic channel ššš just a suggestion for people waiting for the next upload try āKitbogaā. Different but totally bingeworthy. The only other channel I wait in notifications for š
I'm already doing it XD. This stuff's making me consider career paths. I want to know all about how criminals tick and what made them the way they are.
The more I watch these videos the more I'm scared of going to jail for something I didn't do because I'm so socially awkward that I'd look suspicious no matter what.
I really never thought about that there are people who have to talk with these psychos and not punch them in the face and i suddenly have much more respect for them
It's their job. Probably a passion. To psycho analyze these people. I mean you and me are watching this with fascination. People have morbid curiosity.
If he'd of asked for food before the interagation he would have probably gotten it they use food as a bargaining tool but once they new there was no more forthcoming from the freak " hey you wanna tasty meal? Gotcha , won't be long , yeah won't be long b4 your eating pissed on maggot ridden stale chomo fodda lol love it
Canadian master interrogator: "These things happen. People look at child pornography and murder eight year old kids. I'm not mad at you." Savagely polite, and politely savage.
āHereās a blanket so you donāt get cold but the second you wrap yourself up like a victim whose house burnt down you get the bitch stamp, bud.ā
I love how the interrogator plays as though he completely sympathizes until the end where it becomes apparent that he wasn't buying it the whole time. But sadly, I think it was a lost 2 hours because there wasn't any development in the case.
@Nick D "oh my god look at these people using emojis I'm SOOO much smarter than them because I DONT use emojis!!!!" it's ok I used to think the same way....when I was like 13
Of the many parts I find disturbing, if the girl is so disgusted at what she saw, why did she get him a child to begin with, What the hell did she think he was gonna do, have a tea party?
@micheal olusanya i know that, but "she is just as guilty" from the OP implies that they believed that michael is more guilty. I was just clarifying why it appears so
@Kueny Thiluang they wouldn't give her immunity anyway since she didn't make a plea deal, she just confessed. The police had enough physical evidence to convict both of them so they didn't see the point in letting one get off to catch the other.
@micheal olusanya it is a little different actually. It shows she has remorse, which is a mitigating factor. Sometimes that can make a difference in sentencing. I work in a courthouse in Ontario. It didnāt affect her involvement in this case though. The fact that she has previous charges probably didnāt help her case either. I remember when this happened. It was huge Canadian news. Toriās body was found about 10 minutes from where I live. So incredibly disturbing and sad.
@Anonymous AJ theres no better in this situation. āShe didnt killer her but she did lure her to be raped and let her be brutally murdered without saving her but atleast shes sorry so its makes her betterā no. I dont see a ābetterā in there
@micheal olusanya Michael can't be "worse" without Terry being "better." Either they are on equal moral grounds, or they are not. You cannot call one "worse" and insist the other is not "better." So, try again.
@Emily Bye I see comments saying that she was the one who murdered tori but she accused him of doing it, does that mean sheās actually remorseful or not?
I believe she behaved in a way more humane way than him. Also she showed remorse. That should mean something before the law, but apparently genuine remorse and cooperation doesn't mean anything for the law. In my opinion her sentence should have been less harsh than him's.
All the people saying it was her that murdered Tori are wrong, I looked it up and couldn't find anything on that also Wikipedia says he was the murderer just clarifying !
LONDON, ONT.āThe tension was high well before Terri-Lynne McClintic took the stand on March 13.
But she made it explode. What she left behind was a shocked and numbed audience ā and even more disturbing questions about how this young woman became a killer.
As the crownās star witness in its case against her ex-lover, Michael Rafferty, McClintic unravelled a horrific tale of Tori Staffordās last moments. How she, McClintic, put a garbage bag on the little girlās head and kicked her. She kicked, she stomped, she bludgeoned Toriās head with a hammer.
āI savagely murdered that little girl,ā said McClintic.
Toriās mother, Tara McDonald, buried her head in her fists. Her father, Rodney Stafford, wiped tears away with his shirt sleeve. Reporters were too shook up to type on laptops. Some spectators cried openly, most jurors looked dazed.
How could McClintic do this? How did she ever get this way?
As a child, she microwaved a little dog till it screamed.
As a young teen, she listened to Necro, a Jewish-American rapper who says he invented ādeath rap.ā
As an 18-year-old, she lured and killed Tori.
As a 21-year-old, she got into a fight in prison and kicked and stomped on another inmate.
The questions persist. That is the mystery of Terri-Lynne McClintic.*
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Ben Cheevers2021-05-27 12:08:31 (edited 2021-05-27 12:08:49 )
I wrote the below comment after watching this video, I just can't process this, it seems too disturbing to be real, my god, what that family must have went through, I just cannot fathom. This is just so twisted and I feel so twisted up inside about what that child experienced before her murder. Also I feel like there isn't any mystery, she's an absolutely evil person who took out the rage she felt that her Pword boyfriend was more interested in a child than her on that innocent child with a fucking hammer. She was transferred for a time to a first nations healing lodge in Saskatchewan to serve out her sentence whatever that is until public outcry reversed that decision. Seriously who in government thought that was at all appropriate?
*This one made me want to throw up, I cannot imagine how much pain that child endured before that grisly gruesome death. I've had a really strong opposition to solitary confinement because of how inhumane it is and some people have been forced to endure it for decades which is essentially torture. That said, I feel like this demon deserves to be put into a cage too small to stand up straight or fully lie down with a blinking light that just serves to attract flies and moths and fed bread and water for the next 10 years, then throw him in general population so he doesn't miss out on the brutality of other criminals. Normally I'm cynical and just see murderers and thugs placing themselves above chilled mole Lester S. as a naked attempt to prove to themselves that they aren't the lowest of the low and that they operate according to some moral compass, while that's technically true I don't buy into them not being scum of the earth but in this one case thugs and murderers are objectively and absolutely above this monster and he shouldn't be deprived of learning that.
I know that rationally there are really good reasons that we have rights against cruel and inhumane punishments and that this impulse is ugly but damn my mind is so clouded with rage right now I can't fathom any of those reasons.
Edit: I also hold virtually the same sentiments towards Terri-Lynne, I don't believe in hell but if there were ever people who deserved it. Paul and Karla as well.*
@Ben Cheevers I searched these statements and found nothing brother all the articles I see all state Rafferty killed her with the claw hammer Do you think you could link me your source ?
@Capatani I don't understand, I didn't think embedded hyperlinks worked on youtube but as far as I can tell thestar article that I copied is linked as well as the author and date but beyond that, I copied part of the article that quotes her testifying that she killed her.
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Ben Cheevers2021-05-27 16:58:53 (edited 2021-05-27 17:03:38 )
I wrote a really long comment that had to be split into two so nobody probably read them or at least in detail but two things about her: Firstly, I think she killed that innocent child because she was jealous that her pword boyfriend wasn't attracted to her but was to children and she took that rage out on Tara Stafford? (I might have that name wrong) Secondly, somehow, despite being a violent inmate who had 10 convictions for violence in jail during the first two years of her sentence and despite being objectively deserving of torture the GOD DAMN USELESS government decided to transfer her to a first nation healing lodge in Saskatchewan, that's below minimum security while not even halfway through her minimum LIFE sentence. They also transferred Micheal to a medium security prison that specializes in sexual predators, I kind of understand this because you can't keep him in gen pop but when the girl's dad researched the place he found out it wasn't a program designed to house and 'deal with' these monsters but one that gave them extra privileges and treated them as victims and worked towards their rehabilitation. Apparently he extorted 30k from his Mom who had a heart attack at 60 from the stress as well, his Aunt or somebody related brought this up as a reason that he should remain in max but this move stood.
@Tank28 yeah that's the maximum sentence in Canada no matter what you do even if you kill a hundred Ted Bundy for example would have got the exact same sentence
@Not using My name There's so many cases like this with couples who are convicted together. The man gets the harshest punishment and the female just gets a few months or gets let off the hook completely.
This is exactly why I couldnāt be a detective because of people like this just make me wanna shoot them I know thatās messed up to say but I have no sympathy for people that pray on children! Thatās a pitbull attacking a bunny
Him trying to start gagging so he can be dismissed to the restroom or something. Detective: āOh hereās a bucket. Go right ahead, I wonāt be offended.ā š¤£
Sheep how? š§ The laugh emoji is in response to the detectiveās remark. As in- heās like āyeah Iām not buying it. Smarter than you think I amā.
@karateswords Oof, and advertently responding to my comment with no purpose other than to attempt to make yourself feel more adequate than me showcases your inability to mind your own business.
Here is a revised version- without an emoji to suit your intelligence. āHim trying to start gagging so he can be dismissed to the restroom or something. Detective, unbothered: āOh hereās a bucket. Go right ahead, I wonāt be offended.āā
@sheep I don't think you understand how she is utilizing the emoji. She is not laughing at the crime, nor is she laughing at the situation. Shes laughing because the perpetrator was gaging and making it out that he was going to throw up because, as the narrator stated, it was in order to gain sympathy. She put the laughing emoji there as a response to how the detective was completely unphased by his performance and provided him no pity or sympathy he even offered him a bucket in order to show the perpetrator he wasn't buying his fake gaging.
I would try to improve your comprehension before accusing someone of being "sick in the head" as you so ignorantly stated.
@Kayla Marie It actually is wrong. If you study the latest information on psychopathy the people are born this way. It's a form of brain damage just like epilepsy or schizophrenia. It does not diminish his danger to society and he will never see the light of day which I agree with but like it or not these people are victims too.
@Geordie Zinn Victims of what? We all are susceptible to our genes. Pedophiles have the choice to seek help before they hurt a child or their families. Not every psychopath kills people either.
well he was kicking opiates so he may not have been faking.. however he doesn't look like he's kicking that hard. if that was me on day 2 no opiates I'd be on the floor.
@Voxhe yeah it's not mentioned in this video much (apart from when clintock says he went to a house to buy drugs) but he had an opiate addiction, that's why he sniffs, gags and has that red face. That's why the bucket was brought in. Any junkie can tell you that is detox - not a very heavy detox but still painful in his situation. It makes you very emotional too - when I'm in detox thinking about me being nasty to a schoolmate aged 8 makes me cry - so I hope he really felt bad for what he did.
Sadly I think he's a psycho, he probably didn't even care. If he was not in detox I bet he would have been arguing with the officers all that time.
@karateswords emojis are an emotiinal and or scenic expression, an extension of body language, written, spoken and conveyed through all means. You seem extraordinarily tradituinal like someone who still doesnt understand the concept of email.
Detective: "No worries, Mike. Buckets already here. I was hoping this was coming up-- pun intended, Mikey."......" careful not to get any on your blankie"
@Geordie Zinn it actually is wrong to laugh at the expense of a pedo and murderer? Hard disagree. We all are victims of our environment and our biology. Technically you could say about a serial killer "it's not his fault as he was severely beaten as a child, and his brain wasn't allowed to develop normally". That just leads to nothing being our fault though, and no one being responsible for their actions. We can better understand why they do what they do, but giving them lots of sympathy and not allowing ourselves to joke about them, is taking it too far.
What about the woman who spun the evil web to lure the innocent little girl to her nightmarish death?Will she be in isolation? Ä°magine other female inmates if they get hold of her!!
Sentenced to 25 years only? He denied an eight year old's life, did not show the slightest remorse and denied that fact till the very end and this is all he get? Isn't this empowering crime?
This guy is dumb as hell. If he really is trying to convince them that he didnāt do it, his demeanor in the presence of the eyewitness is completely unlikely. - If someone accused you of something so heinous, wouldn't you be like "WTF Terry!! Why would you say i did this horrible thing??!" - instead of just sitting there, looking pissed...? š¤ Also, do you actually have to say 'I WANT A LAWYER' before they have to stop questioning you? He was refusing to say more based on (according to him) his lawyer having told him not to. Yet they still continued to question him.
Sometimes theyāll still question you even if you say you want a lawyer an what theyāll try to do is convince you to talk your way into the crime before you actually get the lawyer Lmao š¤£
Something to note: his accomplice (18 year old girlfriend, Lynne McClintic) wasn't as "" innocent "" as investigators previously believed (if you could call it that). After her trial and sentencing new evidence came out showing she was an active and willing participant in the assault and was the one who carried out the murder. She played up the "I'm young and got involved with a bad guy" angle to get a better sentence but in reality: she is just as cruel and evil and downplayed that she wanted to do it. Feel free to look up all the articles that have been written since the sentencing, it's really horrific. I'm sure investigators have regrets.
I wish this comment was pinned. It doesn't show the image of the scared young thing who was abused into doing something horrible. I want to vomit. As a mother, I want to be alone with her for ten minutes.
In 2018 she got transferred to a healing lodge and there was public outrage. Toriās father fought to have her returned to prison and she was. Sheās eligible for parole in 2031. She probably wonāt get it but unfortunately we donāt really have life sentences in Canada. The max is 25 years at which point prisoners are eligible for parole.
@SubGrappling 805 the healing lodge was mostly set-up for first nations people. But these are usually people who got arrested for drugs and theft, so it was shocking that she got a pass to enter a healing lodge (and I do not think she is native American either)
@Marga Esperanza Thank you, that makes sense. I really appreciate the education on this nuance of the Canadian legal system. It good they have a program like that for First Nation peopleā¦she certainly ought to have no claim to that.
@Exotica WILD Because I've see it a lot in me and other people. I was messed up as a kid and still struggle to mature and process stuff properly (not to this extent, this is disgusting). Very few people are born sick, and you can tell he wasn't because he realizes his actions were disgusting.
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R D2022-02-06 00:20:29 (edited 2022-02-06 00:23:29 )
āIām sitting in this room for Toriā š¢ Also, I canāt believe it took 3 years for the trial. Seems like an open and shut case.
I think that even if it is an open and shut case, they need to turn every stone and make sure everything is in order and accounted for. If the defense is able to poke a hole in anything in the case, that might lead to a mistrial or that he would go free on a technicality. They just can't risk anything.
Its not like the movies, forensic labs take quite some time. The detectives have to write the full report about every piece of evidence, all witness statements, summary of facts, etc... Then all of that moves to the DA and they have to gather everything, put it in order, and choose how they will present the case during trial. Plus if the defense asks for more time they'll get it. If it was during covid years that would have pushed the trial back quite a bit. Its not as easy or smooth as most people think and if one piece is messed up the defense can tear a hole in the entire thing. So the process becomes very slow and methodical.
Time to trial after arrest is usually procedural not clarity. Time to trial BEFORE arrest is when problems with the case- missing suspect, inconclusive evidence, problems with the case etc -are worked out.
Iām glad perpetrators like these are put through these interrogations. I wish it were continuous for the rest of their lives, with the continuous accountability. Thatās the real punishment.
That's why the death sentence should be abolished. It kills innocents and frees the guilty. As soon as the cover is pulled the true punishment begins. It's being outcast from society. It's the being screamed at in rage by others whenever you show your face in public.
The ending gave me hope and comfort knowing that there are people in this world devoted to catching sick bastards like that.
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A Costin2022-02-01 05:54:17 (edited 2022-04-04 12:19:19 )
There are no words in the dictionary to describe the unimaginable cruelty in this case to manipulate a child into thinking she's going to see a puppy and eventually bashing her head in with a claw hammer is just incomprehensible the whole world should stop and listen at how cruel we are God rest the beautiful soul of Tori stafford.š
The Detective at the beginning knew this guy is a complete monster, it's difficult to even tell someone who you know 100% did this on purpose is not a monster, props to the Detective
I wish youd make more videos like this, you have a PERFECT narrarating voice, and do such a great job editing.... PLS make more videos! Ill even join your channel monthly if you would!!
I genuinely feel sick about this. The sentence is way too light, but i don't know anything that i can consider just for what happened. Maybe its because i have a daughter a similar age but this is so disturbing and gut wrenching.
I honestly don't think during the interview he's looking for sympathy. It's nothing more than he knows exactly what he did to that poor little girl and knows he's caught dead to rights
Only in Canada would the detective say "Now michael, you haven't even touched your doughnut." š¤£ this is obviously very serious but that shit made me laugh
Watching this video I can feel myself becoming mentally exhausted listening to the detective's rambling. That really speaks to their skill in their profession.
While I agree with the verdict that both got life in prison, after watching some of the other cases on here, from a legal defense standpoint, that woman could have got an immunity deal for her testimony which confirmed the details that led to conviction both of the perps, like what Claralyn Balazs did in the Leonard Lake/Charles Ng case. Good thing she is stupid, people in comments saying she is a victim too, naw she wasn't a victim in this case, maybe in other matters but not this case, and just because she confessed to her role doesn't make her less guilty.
I live in a city near the town where Tori was from and I remember when all this went down, and when Tori was missing and it was all over the news š it was really scary and itās all so disturbing š
You know someone is guilty when they just sit silently. If I was wrongly accused of something I would've snapped at the interrogator. Great job btw he really is good at his job!
I would sit silently or ask for a lawyer. Guilty or not. Unless I was really traumatised or something, in which case I may break down a bit but generally I can keep my composure.
While I agree with the verdict that both got life in prison, after watching some of the other cases on here, from a legal defense standpoint, that woman could have got an immunity deal for her testimony which confirmed the details that led to conviction both of the perps, like what Claralyn Balazs did in the Leonard Lake/Charles Ng case. Good thing she is stupid, people in comments saying she is a victim too, naw she wasn't a victim in this case, maybe in other matters but not this case, and just because she confessed to her role doesn't make her less guilty.
āYouāre thinking āokay if I ever get caught for it what am I gonna do-ā Well you plan isnāt going to work. Okay? āCause youāre not built for this shit.ā
Literally every murderer has this God complex that they can take a life and just move on. I love the was the cop just consistently shred him down. Itās so little but so satisfying to know those words will haunt him forever as he fits in his cell
You can always tell when it's a cop trying to play "bad cop" because it just isn't "bad" enough. It always reads and sounds like being lectured by a teacher.
how is he even trying to say he didnt do it when theres evidence and a witness. i donāt understand how he just has absolutely nothing to say for himself that is insane
I am a 'no death penalty life in prison' kinda person. But in instances like this where the person can not possibly be rehabilitated and released back into society because they are a true danger to that society.. no release and let the other prisoners decide his fate with the most brutal karma they see fit.
Despite him being horrible, learn from this. NEVER speak without an attorney. You literally don't have to answer or say anything. Guy deserves to rot in prison but some people get unlucky when they say the wrong things
How those cops sat that close to him and allowed him to keep breathing is beyond my comprehension. The most heinous crime committed by the most hideous person. And he sits with his comfort blanket, shaking, worried about his own torment. He should be left in solitary confinement with his guilt for the rest of his days. Which I hope is short lived. I truly hope someone serving life stops him breathing.
This one is the hardest to watch of these videos for me. Just the fact that he made a child feel the way he feels in the video and was aroused by it. But now expects the pity as a grown child killer that he didn't give an actual innocent child. But he thinks he deserves any kid of remorse. The cops should've been getting off on torturing him with medieval instruments to make the punish fit the crime. Honestly its still not nearly enough.
My dad used to tell me there's trouble you can get yourself out of...and there's trouble you have to face head on...and boy then he brought that white bucket in he proved that statement right š¤£...theres no running from this....I HOPE THAT LITTLE GIRL HAS A SPECIAL PLACE IN HEAVEN šš½šš½
just wanted to say that the canadian police is kinda amazing?? it took what, four days to find the suspect (having only a low quality video of her) and make her confess and tell them who was the killer??? in brazil it takes months (that in the few cases they solve and that they only spend months ā years even ā trying to solve because the kid is from a wealthy family)
what's amazing is how I am taken aback by the Mutt & Jeff Routine. the Good Cop / Bad Cop.
that one guy is intense. and he gets the credit.
but it only works āĀ when it works āĀ when the Good Cop acts his or her part to the hilt; if the Good Cop comes off weak, the Bad Cop has little to build on.
He used an older female to literally steal that child away, I'm wondering what her motivation was to help him, We know what his motivation was. I'm sure he'll get what's coming to him, but about her.
Question: If someone believes they would torture and kill this man if given the opportunity and given they could get away with it, does that make that someone sick?
Morality of his action aside What did he gain from this? Why do people go out of their way to hurt others :/
Isn't it just happier, more peaceful and enjoyable for yourself to just live without hurting anyone Why do people go out of their way to hurt others and fuck themselves up :/
I really don't get it, stupid is the only word i can think of
I love the all different ways we Canadians say āgoāā. from encouraging a toddler to encouraging a offensive attack. āLetās go!ā To āwhere ya goin ehā
It's monsters like this that cause feel-good laws such as sex offender registration that puts a made up label on so many undeserved. That said, I can not watch this anymore. Love to the family and friends.
"This is a mistake...you'd take it back if ya could...if you could turn back the hands of time...would you do this a little bit different...", I swear this guy could be interrogating me about my first marriage...
Idk.. it's said that the last bit where the cop starts roasting the guy isn't a strategy but it seems like he was trying to get a rise out of him so that he would talk. That seems pretty strategic to me. Heck, he talked a lot more when he did that versus when the other cop was playing nice.
Susan Devoe2022-02-02 20:18:17 (edited 2022-02-02 20:19:51 )
Geez...typical cops....figure they've got it all down pat, all their questions, strategies, ploys, good cop/back cop, offers of food, etc etc etc....and hv the recording of the whole interrogation constantly disturbed by the main questioning cop's seriously annoying, blanking-out-the-recording, loud creaky chair!!!!! Brilliant!!!! I would think up here in Canada the police budget can afford some WD-40 for a creaky old chair, or, geez, a new chair at least for recorded interrogations!! C'MON boys in blue!!
I sometimes wonder- if reincarnation is a thing, what happened to Ted Bundy? I guess he just came back as a more pathetic, less confident version of himself.
I've learned something about investigations, if there is food set for YOU specifically you and they press the face that you should eat. They know that your guilty and by you not taking any of it to eat is confirming that you are so overwhelmed by shame or fear because you knew what YOU did and your not gonna see the lights or day again
@chocolate dogs they don't need to trick you with food to get your fingerprints lmao. They can literally just threaten you with more jail time if you don't give them
Its probably a good thing I'm not an interrogator. I'd be like "... Alright then, good talk. I'm off. Friday nights beer night." Just to stick it to him that one last bit. pos
this played directly after a jerma985 compilation video and i wasnt paying attention and for like two whole minutes i thought this was a really weird bit anyway great video very sad
Look what he did was fucked beyond belief, but if I walked into an investigation room with a blanket, a drink AND a donut at that point I KNOW Iām doomed. When he offered if he wanted a meal I wouldāve said yes, ate it, then asked for my lawyer
I hope after 25 years they have to serve another 25 Neither are safe -If this was a dog it would be put down ...Living is too good for him and I do believe in death penalty with such cases ..
Think about this: Canada is a country that holds French and English people, contains a U.S. state, is ruled by the queen of England, and has a city named London. Pick a fucken lane. Note: This joke is not mine. I had heard it during a stand-up comedy show named Purple Privilege, created and performed Heath McIvor, a.k.a. Randy Feltface.
They're narcissistic sociopaths, they have no empathy or compassion; almost like they're aliens, they always play the victim. Chris Watts is one, he killed his pregnant wife and 2 young daughters.
@Ultimate Powa the whole point of the weird shit that he said is to make the suspect believe that the interrogator is on his side and empathetic towards him so heās more willing to give a confession, itās not like the interrogator actually believes the things heās saying
This is known as the Lying Off Your Ass technique, where an investigator, who is actually quite disgusted at the monster in front of him, pretends like it doesn't bother him, when in fact it really does. This builds rapport with the suspect while not allowing him to build morale.
I knew from the start...but when it was actually said that he raped and killed her, I felt physically sick. Can you imagine how that felt for her? She was only 8yr, her body wouldn't have even been developed to withstand that, the bone-breaking pain she would have gone through- all because she wanted to see a puppy.
I hope he gets his full karma in jail, every bit of pain and fear she felt right back at him.
I was a victim of being raped as a child by my biological father, from ages 2-9, and I can tell you that the pain is absolutely unbearable. It feels like your entire insides are being ripped apart with bare hands. It stays the rest of your life. The poor girl had this happen to her with strangers, alone, and having no idea what was happening to her. Its something she never deserved. Its something no child should ever have to go through.
@Ryan Is So Conceited yea but they are sentient hopefully intelligent people. By using reasoning. They should know he didn't mean anything by it. And for all they know he could be dyslexic. Or have some disability that makes it hard for him to read social cues. Some of these people are triggered as heck. And calling him names like be kind to people jeez you judgmental softees. But Eh but whatever I don't know shĆt. Enjoy y'all's day people's.
ā@Onanefe My female cousin got raped as a child. And a few years after she committed suicide by hanging. Because she couldnt handle it anymore. So dont tell someone to calm down when they have experienced something like this themselves or had family members who were affected by the most horrific thing a child can experience.
@Creamy Goodness Well I'm sorry for that. How should've known? I just think it isn't right to go on that guy for explaining/wording this ...lets say badly. I feel for everyone with their pain but damn it isn't like he said he liked what that guy did
@Creamy Goodness I agree with you whole heartedly sexual abuse of any kind is sick and shouldnāt be taken lightly. You donāt understand the pain they go through!
@Creamy Goodness as someone who was raped twice. I can absolutely tell someone to calm down if there anger is misplaced. Bruh didn't say he agreed with the rapists. He actually showed pitty for the girl. Get angry at the right people. But this is the internet. And IV seen people put gas in trash bags humans aren't so smart lol
@chorof. apski Rape isn't about sexual urges. It's about power and dominance. In fact, rape requires no particular sexual desire but more so a desire to humiliate and torment. The penis is used as a weapon. It's very disgusting.
Interrogator: āDo you know what a psychopath is, Mike?ā Psychopath: āIāve never met one.ā Interrogator: āWell I just met one tonight.ā Nice.
Jim T well I think the line between a psychopath and a sociopath is very blurry because Ted Bundy is always said to be a textbook psychopath but he was such a mess before his death penalty that he didnāt even eat
Mario Calabrese I studied neuroscience at university and I must say that it's just not that black & white. I wish it was. It would have made the degree a lot easier. You are correct to point out that some studies have correlated activity in the amygdala to psychopathy, but you are wrong if you are implying that this means therefore that decreased activity in the amygdala is a predicting/causative factor for psychopathy . There is no established causative relationship between any brain region and psychopathy, only correlation. Particularly when looking at correlations between behavioural archetypes & neural regions, the samples are almost never satisfactory for a variety of reasons; size, selection bias. Often there are a good number of subjects in these studies that did not fit the overall trend i.e. they scored high for traits of psychopathy, but did not have any major abnormalities of the amygdala. Naturally, these subjects are considered to be anomalies, but when you have a sample size of 25 people, it's difficult to be certain whether you're recording false anomalies or falsely dismissing the real picture. This is why meta-studies are so important, but meta-studies are scarce (non-existent, to my current knowledge, but that may no longer be true) in this particular area. You have to factor in the misleading nature of fMRI studies & post-mortem examinations too. They're host to all manor of misinterpretation, namely, false inference. fMRIs simply measure oxygen metabolism. There's hundreds of reasons why neural networks might increase or decrease in metabolic rate which has no bearing on how 'active' or 'in use' they actually are in relevance to the variables of study. What's more; it's not uncommon for people to develop brain tumours or experience strokes in regions of the amygdala, and while those patients may have various symptoms not merely including stress disorders & behavioural changes, (the amygdala is involved in the modulation of several crucial brain functions, it's just popularised as the 'fear centre,' in reality the cortex is probably every bit as important in the perception of & response to fear), these people, even if already somewhat present on a sociopathic scale, do not suddenly develop psychopathic traits. I'm guessing you seen this on a documentary? Word of warning: I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen/heard of scientists being pressured into making bold, conclusive statements that they otherwise wouldn't make by media outlets, or badly edited to make it 'concise.' Always take these serial killer/psychopath documentaries with a pinch of salt, because I assure you the scientific literature is a lot more complex than simply: decreased amygdala activity, therefore psychopath; or vice versa. I've already waffled enough but I'll happily dig out a great review I read on the validity of such studies if you like
Mario Calabrese Yes I got that and Iām telling you that itās a correlation. In other words, plenty of psychopaths have perfectly normal fear responses
@Matthew Vaughan That's so interesting! Thank you very much for sharing. Can you recommend me some article or source to dig a little more on the subject? I'm just a person interested in this stuff. ( :
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Matthew Vaughan2020-07-05 15:19:50 (edited 2020-07-10 01:31:16 )
Mel SM Yeah of course! 1) This is the one I was vaguely referencing in my first comment. Itās one of the best ones because it tries to keep things clear & focused. If you read this alone youāll have a pretty solid grasp of psychopathy & the amygdala specifically. It covers some of the problems I mentioned with fMRI studies in much, much more detail, but it also gives you a bit of background neuropsychology on psychopathy.
2) This one is a bit more of a challenging read because itās a technical review purely designed for those in the field, but it gives you an idea of just how many different regions of the brain are identified as playing a role in the development of psychopathy. Obviously you donāt have to read all the results tables and stuff, skipping to the discussion parts will tell you all you need to know.
3) This one covers other avenues of scientific study such as genetics and biochemistry. It gives a good all round picture of what the research implies. Again, I wouldnāt recommend reading the methodology etc, you can just skip to which parts sound useful
That girl who left Tori' with that monster..I hope she hears her calling her name to the end..How awful can a person be to deliver a child to the hands of evil.Its beyond every thing ..
I find her more difficult to understand than the sick piece of shit that killed the 8 year old. She was very remorseful and I'm sure she had nightmares for a long time after what happened, maybe she won't be able to forgive herself in her entire life. But what I find unbelievable is how she was able to knowingly leave the child in that car with this monster, come back, see that he was in the back seat doing things to her, LEAVE AGAIN and come back later and pretend like nothing happened. It's extremely remarkable that she would passively let all of this happen, and I'm glad she got severely punished for it.
She was a teen when she initially met the adult Rafferty. A teen born to a stripper who gave her away to another stripper, who was an alcoholic drug addict who got Terri addicted as a young child; by 13 she was already addicted to Oxys and had dropped out of school, and she later had a number of arrests under her record. Throughout their relationship, Rafferty psychologically and physically abused her. She was terrified of him. She deserves every consequence she got and possibly more, but one cannot deny that the system failed her, subsequently failing Tori and her family.
This is how these kind of people work, have a woman drag a child in because they are more trustworthy, see Epstein/Ghislaine Maxwell, and then hand the child over to the man.
I totally agree and I wish the law aloud to turn over these freaks to the family no coffee and donuts ...no ham n cheeses in jail its called a stoning like the good old day's...stop wasting tax payers money to feed this worst of animal !!!
The girl is the one who actually hammered her in the head and killed her. She confessed in 2012 and is now serving life sentence. Originally she got away with it by framing the whole thing on the guy. So when he said that she's a liar in this interrogation, he was actually telling the truth! But years later she confessed.. here it is > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMn3f2phw0
@John Jonathan No, I'm blaming the system for failing to place her in a safe home as a child, I'm blaming the system for allowing oxys to be so prevalent that she was able to become addicted to them at the age of 13, I blame the system for not jailing a man who was dating and abusing a teenage girl, I blame the system for not recognizing the obvious issues this person has and removing her from society prior to this I horrible event taking place. If you want to pretend we live in a vacuum where everyone's choices exist outside of societal influence then you're essentially saying that child rape is inevitable and there is nothing we can do about it.
You're wrong. There is plenty we can do about it, but it will require a lot of systemic change that focuses on prevention instead of punishment
@Sugar&Spice I think the specific systemic issues she mentioned were failure of social programs and law enforcement to protect children, and the prevalence of and easy access to addictive drugs due in part to over-prescription.
@Mango Roxx "Dont do things you know are wrong" is an incredibly juvenile moral philosophy, btw. Your son knows it is wrong to cross the street out of turn, so he better not run over and save the old blind person walking into traffic, right?
Morality and ethics is a lot more complicated than "bad things bad, good things good". Luckily your son probably received education outside of the home leading to a more complete moral philosophy.
@Jess Pavlichenko well, reading the exhaustive essay mango r posted about how wonderfully brought up her son was by her, what do you expect? Somewhat juvenile I agree.
@Mango Roxx not everyone has the mental fortitude to handle a life of pain. There's a select few that do that can get out and make something of themselves but im sure you'd be surprised to know that many do not make it out of the struggle. The actions this woman took are not okay, and nobody is justifying them. However, to act like her circumstances did not in any way effect what happened here is ridiculous. Just because others can make it through a tough time does not mean everyone can.
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The poor dear got transferred to a healing lodge to destress because marginal native heritage apparently entitles you to an entirely seperate level of justice in this country. The Liberals actively resisted attempts to transfer her back into the hole she belongs in when the public found out for good measure. It's ironic that the interrogator repeatedly brings up Paul Bernado, if McClintic was just a touch more legally savvy she probably also could have Karla Homolka'd her way out of punishment entirely.
@Mango Roxx apparently you can tell by 4 if kids are sociable and good hearted. I used to go to my boys nursery some days and you could see some kids were loners
Missed the first ten minutes of the video because I got so engrossed reading two strangers argument in the comments.. well played commenters. Well played.
@Jess Pavlichenko you put up with a lot of bullshit from a bunch of people who made inaccurate knee jerk analyzations of your comment lmao, respect. i would have lost it. everything you said is facts though
@Erato IsYourMuse did she get charged with anything? after watching these crime documentaries growing pot seems like a 7 year old snatching a gum from a gas station lol not a big deal to begin with but you know.
They probably would have if he started talking so they could seem friendly and keep him talking but itās better for him to be uncomfortable if he isnāt talking
@Marjorie Tillman they got him food from the nearest shitty fast food place close to the police station to coerce the most information out of him as possible, also to avoid violating his civil rights. People act like they took him to the fucking play pen and got him a milkshake while he went down the slide
@Kristian Siordia I'm sure he would have if they guy was open to admitting everything, but if you're going to spend hours wasting the cops time denying the obvious then no food for you
Imagine being so casual, a detective, and pretending not to be horrified of the false human sitting right in front of you. I canāt imagine the day where I would be in the same room of another that has 17GB of torture in their brain stem, and not act in a physical manner. Such dignified restraint.
You do not want to know what it takes to get into this job, pretty sure they have a "desensitization" program similar to the FBI and that's just all kinds of nightmare fuel.
I would do unspeakable things to that man... I canāt believe how awful someoneās mind can be. He wouldnāt leave that room alive thatās for sure.
@Tarik Al-Hoshan They were as bad as each other. This case made national news here in Canada and people were horrified. Both of them have this little girl's blood on their hands. Those that kill and rape the innocent have a special place in Hell reserved for them.
I thought it was just a bad police sketch. Then I realized it wasnāt and itās spot on. What a gross woman inside and out. I donāt care if she is a victim too, a lot of victims donāt lure 8 year olds to their own deaths.
Though her being a victim doesnāt excuse the horrible act its good to acknowledge how people can be played in these situations, she was used as pawn and felt like it was the only thing she could do in the situation, weather it been for money or because she felt some since of low to no self worth its horrifying what people can get others to do.
Naa dude, im pretty sure she tried to repent as soon as she could. Ive met people who scam old folks out of cash, and i think Mike held some sort of power against that woman
@Dun Dun it's worth something for her own self maybe. But what happened...happened. we can appreciate that she did at least something good in all of this...what an horrible story. A real nightmare. People like this they are only sad because they get caught.
@lajeandom na she had to be tracked down by the police and she denied it at first if she really was remorseful for her actions she would have handed herself in instead of being a sick coward
@Nosy Wendigo did I say she shouldnāt be charged? No. I said that she was used in this situation. I specifically pointed out that her being a victim doesnāt excuse what she did .
@Abigailhosey _ and it absolutely doesn't matter if she was a "victim" and a pawn in this situation, what she has done is absolutely terrible and can't be excused at all. You say it's not an excuse and then proceed to try to explain her actions and by that justify it in some way. if you have the heart to lure a child in and then watch said child getting sexually assaulted and then brutally killed without saying a word about it then you're a piece of shit. Not to mention instead of turning herself in to the police, the police had to find her and even then she denied everything at first. She's very much responsible for the poor girl's death and deserves a punishment according to that.
@Nosy Wendigo I was trying to make an observation on the situation not once did I say what she did was okay or that she wasnāt at fault, she was a pawn in that mans sick game, does that mean it was okay for her to being that child to him absolutely not. Iām stating a fact that he used her vulnerability to his advantage.
@noesy I find it better to look at things from all perspectives, I have no remorse for her it was just an analysis of the situation. I like to think of the mindset of the individuals and see how they could ever do such a horrible thing, it helps me keep hope for humanity. Not by excusing people actions but finding reasons onto how it could happen.
@Nosy Wendigo i donāt think she should be let off easy at all, she was an accomplice to a horrid crime and deserves what she got. that being said, i do think she was abused and threatened.
@Dun Dun It didn't save the girl but maybe it'll help others. But then again, she could've declined in the first place, even reported him and this wouldn't be a situation.
@ADT Yeah, and I could've invested money instead of drinking so much, but sometimes life is a lot weirder when you're in a situation you're not prepared for. Cheers.
20 mins through and he's still bloody rambling and Rafferty is screaming in his mind. ..ok let me say my piece as you keep telling me to let you know what happened!!! Blimey, he really has took some speed or something and just going on and on and on.....28 mins and he's still 'rambling'!!!!!!! (WTF)??,
y'all realize that there isn't a guy named Jim, right? it's a collective. I know, its like finding out Santa isnt real. the voice you hear is a paid narrator reading a script put together by people who worked cases
An hour into the video, and the investigator hasn't even stopped between sentences or take a breath, lol. I felt like screaming OK! I THINK HE GETS IT! NOW CAN WE PLEASE HEAR WHAT THE FUCKER HAS TO SAY??
God I just kept praying for some angered deputy to storm in the room and drop kick this disgusting piece of shit. Iāve never been more angered by an interrogation. This dude is the worst
Jill E Beans My thinking too. Given that this video is under an hour, I wonder if he didnāt talk and repeat himself quite as much as he appeared to? Clearly the technique didnāt work this time.
Kill E Beans if he lets the suspect talk he ruins the momentum he was building as the suspect would probably just conjure up a lie or stay quiet the whole time. Rambling is what kept the suspect on edge and unable to focus on a potential lie. And if he succumbed to the psychological pressure he would have blurted out something that was ill-prepared or truthful. That's the whole point of it. Unfortunately it didn't work but the dude was an absolute pro at what he was doing
Iām sorry but he talks too much. So easy to just let him talk about his background. He was most definitely abused as a child also and lived a very dysfunctional family life with violence. But the interrogator just allās and talks and gives him info he can use too to get out of it. Too long winded.
They actually intentionally do that, where it looks fake. People are more likely to remember if they see DISTINCT features, which is why they over exaggerate certain features
I don't see that much similarity to be honest. The eyes and brows, maybe, but everything else looks different. The picture has sunken cheeks(while the lady has chimpmunk cheeks), thin lips(while the lady has average sized lips) and inaccurate laugh lines. If the picture looks like anybody, it's Sigourney Weaver, who couldn't look any more different than the lady in the video. I'm not saying it's a bad sketch but it's definitely not jaw droppingly accurate like everyone here says.
@Amelia Singleton She was sentenced to life in prison with a possibility of parole in 2031.
Late last year she was transferred to Okimaw Ohci Healing Lodge, a native American prison focused on psychological healing and reintegration into society.
@Kristjan Kangro Yea I'm with you. I don't really get how everyone in this thread thinks it looks dead on. There's some similarity in the eyes I guess but other than that I don't think she looks anything like the sketch.
This case is so sick l I can't even wrap my mind around this level of evil. I recognize Detective Smyth in this video from the other video when he interrogated Russell Williams. I have so much respect for Detective Smyth and his fellow Detectives for being able to deal with these psychos. I couldn't.
Forensic artists actually do this on purpose, to accentuate the features people tend to notice the most: the eyes, and the mouth. This subconsciously "sets" the imagery in the viewer's mind, so when they actually see the person in question, it "clicks" right away.
Also, sometimes, they will intentionally distort or obscure certain features, to verify that a witness actually saw the question person, or not.
They do it on purpose so that the suspects outstanding features stick out in peoples minds. Hypothetically I think my composite sketch would be my eyes with chubby cheeks over emphasized and same with my overbite.
Are yāall kidding me? The sketch actually looked nothing alike imo but the eyes by the slightest..feel bad for the real skinny women in town getting questioned at checkout lines š„“
tylerhill40 they came up with the composite from eyewitness descriptions, not grainy video... if they knew her eyebrows were that busted from video footage, theyād have just shown the footage
From my understanding of police sketches they pick the unique features of a person(like cheek bones, eye sockets, teeth) and exaggerate them so someone is more likely to be like to recognize them unlike traditional art where people look more vague or cartoon-y
I think they need a new sketch artist. Except being Canadian they're too concerned with hurting the sketch artists feelings to fire her or tell her she's a bad composite sketch artist.
@Kristjan Kangro These sketches are done by a witness describing the person's face to the artist. So the fact that they can actually make it look even this accurately like the person is impressive enough. It's hard enough to accurately draw a person's face when you're looking at it. Doing it when you've NEVER seen the person is some peak skill
@Amelia Singleton Sometimes the accomplice will get immunity if they can provide damning enough evidence, especially if there's cause to believe they weren't 100% on board with what was going on. But in this case she was charged, though she likely still got some amount of leniency for her cooperation with police.
iām waiting to see if someone who does this is or familiar to this can explain but i have watched A LOT of documentaries and videos who use visuals like that to find a missing person or a wanted person and catch the exact person they were looking for
All these videos are full of content that makes me feel horrible about the world,but I love watching them! I donāt think I love feeling horrible about the world hmmm idk?!?!
@Kristjan Kangro I agree but it's the overall effect which is perfect. if you scroll down so the hair on top is hidden then go between it and the photo, it's uncanny
The reason composite sketches looks like that is that so the drawing can imprint to the viewers mind the kinda exaggerated facial features so that it will be easily recognized when you look at the supposed suspect face, you'll quickly recognize it is them in the sketches. Even the composites has psychological impact on a normal person's mind.
True, but the thing is, thatās apparently on purpose.
They simply show the features that the witness describes, exaggerated, because apparently thatās more effective than an accurate picture. Mad, but true.
HOW did they do that though?? Her head on the CCTV was literally 4 pixels. And she wasn't even facing the camera??? How did they get her sketch so perfectly???
@Ssuli99 most sketch artists are actually wonderful artists, but forensic art and police sketches need to basically take the most dominant and memorable features of a person, and kind of make them really the focus of the face, almost to the point it looks silly. This is so people keep what they see in their minds, rather than seeing a pretty average face with general features and forgetting about it right after.
@Collin Wood LMAO No they don't... If anything, those features is what the witness noticed, hence the attention to the features lmao... If they knew THAT much, why would they even need a sketch? You surely are a fool lmao
I laughed at the sketch and was thinking it was so bad and then they showed her mugshot and I yelled āDAYUMā whoever made that sketch needs a raise lol
@Brandon French right?! They were like "from the video you can see a woman between this and this age, this tall, this heavy, a ponytail" and I was like "How do you see all this?!" O-O š
Well they made her look like 20kg skinnier face wise, eyeswise it was a great job but i refuse to believe anyonr would recognise her on the streets passing by... although im guessing its more about someone familiar with her recognising the face and calling the feds, like a coworker, not some randoms
Fun Fact: these sketches are often drawn intentionally not to look like a real person because they put almost a cartoonish emphasis on the persons prominent features to make them more identifiable to someone who might only see them briefly. This is bc people who see the sketch are more likely to remember it if they look more bizarre and unrealistic.
@Collin Wood Iāve never noticed that until this video. How they use the light gray heavily blended areas for the mouth and jaw shape because they arenāt very identifiable, but the bolded narrow eyes and brow shape draw your eyes towards it and stick in your memory. Seeing her photo immediately after is so cool. Her eyes are the most identifiable part of her. I want to know how long it took, how many times the school worker had to describe her face and what words/phrases she used. How many drawings did it take until the witness saw this one and said it was spot onā¦ in any case, that artist deserves a fat raise.
@OSSS Boys just delete your channel, that was honestly the most embarrassing thingbI can remember seeing on here and that's saying something. Putting a Chris Hansen clip at the end doesn't make you any less of a creep either.
I LOVE the lead detective. He doesnt care about the criminal or his "feelings." He cares about justice for that little girl, and that's exactly what this sorry excuse for a man will get.
eh, both detectives are just playing different roles. They could easily switch roles if it was needed. neither of them care about the suspect and his feelings, they really only about the little girl and her family
Fossil Friendly I know right?! Itās quite obviously a ploy. As if a detective working on such a sickening crime knowing the ins and outs of the case would feel anything but disgust for such a person.
@Fossil Friendly I understand the tactics they use. I watch videos like this all the time. However, I feel like there is no need to pander for a confession if they have secured hardvore evidence and gained search warrants like they claimed to.
The fact that the first detective could leave anyone with the impression that he cared about that POS he was interviewing is testimony to how great a job the detective did. Very few of us could keep our composure and even pretend to treat that POS kindly and this detective has people thinking he genuinely cared. Whattaman.
@Tanner Holmes They claim those things in an attempt to secure the confession. Did you not see that it took 3 years and then 10 weeks in court to secure a guilty verdict? A confession of guilt saves a lot of effort, time, and money.
@Tanner Holmes Pandering for a confession is ALWAYS necessary. Apparently you aren't aware of how important confessions are in a Court of Law. Once a suspect confesses, it's almost impossible for them to get out of it. Until he confesses, all they have to go off of is evidence, which no matter how damning, is still not the perpetrator admitting their involvement.
@Tanner Holmes You never know. The best evidence is a direct confession. There have been plenty of cases with rock hard evidence but the defence manage to weesle in reasonable doubt. The criminal can't get away through reasonable doubt if they have confessed to the crime.
Tanner Holmes I agree with all of the above comments. Evidence isnāt the be all and end all, what you really want is a confession. He just wants to jail his ass the quickest, easiest way he knows how and if that means pandering to the guy then so be it. The detective really doesnāt give af about him.
he's afraid of losing his life, but was willing to take another's so quickly. i just can't wrap my head around why shit like this happens...what drives people to view our young like this
@ai nah that donāt sound right but a good way to look at it I guess I just have different thoughts as Iāve done shit like that too rebellious for a rush and Iām not a killer lol itās all about how they grew up and their mental health their brains looks completely different itās .. scary honestly like idk
@ai I also feel like itās different for differnet killers u know? Like the um gonzalez twins I could be totally messing the name up but they got life Iām pretty sure for killing parents who use to rap3 them idk itās just all sad and upsetting
@ai blaming porn for this crime feels as useless as blaming video games for school shootings. If you become motivated to commit a heinous crime after consuming a bit of casual entertainment media, something was very wrong with you to begin with. Do you realize how many people watch porn and don't become sexual predators?
@OSSS Boys I don't get why you feel the need to promote your video here, a video about a kid getting killed by a sicko and you're here promoting ur channel, my gosh wtf
I can sort of understand him. Well of course i can't, his brain is so ruined i can only comprehend some concepts. But the girl? She should burn in hell, she is crying about feeling bad. She at the very least knew a young child would be raped at her orchestration, yet she walked away.
I don't care how much you are abused yourself, you don't let something like that happen before your eyes.
@A D im gonna be honest with you, yes! i do! im talking about people being addicted to it, so much so that it becomes repetitive and boring, and then leading to more sexual desires for something weirder like cp, gore, things like that. im not talking about every murderer ever, im talking about what i think this guys background is and how it could be similar to other murderers.
It's an orientation, do all gay people choose to be so ? No for most or s lot they have no control over it, this is true of all attractions regardless of legality or morality
Killing and violence (unless in psychosis) isn't excusable, reasonable or justifiable, pretty much that's all there is too it
Those guys are a different breed, most people would fight the urge to slam his head on the wall, no worries tho he surely got badly raped/beaten numerous times in prison and rightfully so, no prisoner takes kindly to a child killer/rapist
@Ricardo Huard to be harshly realistic, thats not what would happen. he would be secluded in a solitary isolated room with little food or water. for life he wont see a living being..he wont be allowed in the prison cus it wont just be that, its the fact that theyed do anything to kill him and will assualt police who hold them back. no prison, assylum, or medical hospital can hold him back. his life is gonna be more empty than his heart
@ItsMenyatical they will probably keep him in his own cell, but still in general population. they probably wont make efforts to keep him separated until he gets attacked.
@Choke well itll also depend on the prisons standards and what its known for. its its 100% obvious the peaple in there are gonna try and mangle/kill him then this could be used for any later case to the situation in the laws intellegence and the situation they forced his bearings on. so in this case the type of person he is would probs be put in a max security or solitary, only seeing more of 'his kind' *shudder*.
he also interrogated russel willliams, jcs also covered this in an unlisted video and he was just as badass and truly intellectual. he has been offered many book deals and lucrative offers, but he disagreed to them all and continued working. the real fucking deal and a prime example of what an interrogation should be. no shitty false confession tactics used, just pure fucking intelligence and artistry at his craft in the russel williams case
@Jarred Keeting yeh kinda think it's the point to bombard the suspect with conversation (whether it be one way conversation or not) that way it minimises the possibilities for them to think up stories or lies and will typically get them frustrated which in turn can cause them to slip up etc
@Jarred Keeting yeh I get that they didn't get the desired outcome of them coming clean and well dobbing themselves in for what they did but some people have a higher tolerance to keep their mouth shut I guess lol
@Jarred Keeting fortunately for this disgusting couple they were caught and were put away. Sadly it doesn't bring back the little girl though. Really never understood how and why anyone would want to do this to anyone. They're just not all there.
@The MysticGod1587 he may have just said he doesn't care to the person who his trying to trick to let slip, you couldn't be in that position and not care about an 8 year old raped and murdered. Prison is to good of a sentence for these kinds of people and a bullet is to cheap and easy, they should suffer somewhat like their victims had to endure.
Fyi, after the first 3 minutes, there is barely any talking until 30 minutes in. The first 30 minutes(which was an hour and half if not sped up) is just the interrogator trying to make Micheal feel comfortable enough to talk, put on some pressure on but trying to go the friendly route to get Micheal to open up, going over the same things over and over, with Micheal crying and saying he didn't do it a few times. Around 34:00 is when the second detective comes in. Save yourself 30 minutes, after the first 3 barely anything happens, just the first detective trying to get Micheal to talk on his own.
I dont think 25 yrs is enough. For taking 60+ yrs from an innocent little girl and on top of that whatever discussing sexual things they did to her. Not even close.
@Pitt Raider i hope cops and prosecutors sentence and ship people knowing what awaits these people. Maybe even a pizza party for the good ol prisoners who make life miserable or miserably end their lives.
@ShayDale he has a life sentence with the ability to be out on parole in 25 years and honestly he probably will be out in 25 years. He's already been moved to a minimum security prison. In Canada its not uncommon for a murderer to be back out on the street in 20 years. The prison system in Canada isn't like the US. If he was in the US he probably would have 3 or 4 life sentences with no chance of parole.
@Tyson Rinker In sweden theyāre even more lenient, I was positively shook when I heard that the ufc fighter who raped and almost beat his ex gf to death got 46 to life! In the us. Here rapes get you close to nothing, if you get to a trial and get a sentencing at all, beating a girl almost to death gets you almost nothing. I hate how our law system works.
@Karolin it's also based on how much of a risk you are to the public and your prior record. That kfc fighter had violent prior offences and could easily kill a man bare handed, this guy is unlikely to ever get out they wave the possibility of parole after 25 like a carrot in front of u so u behave in prison otherwise u would just say fuck it and be terrible in the pen
@Pitt Raider everyone hates pedos and plenty of people especially in prison will have sadistic tendencies towards them Heās going to have an absolutely terrible time in prison lmao
Nobody will disagree to that sounding like a short sentence, certainly not me. My dad is a corrections officer though and assured me where i live, 25 years is the max sentence but at the end of it, with being found guilty for something like this, they're either offed by other inmates within that time or spend the rest of their lives after time served being shuffled from one psychiatric "rehabilitation" to another (read:more prison) until they die. Even if by some miracle they are let out, they are never ever left alone by that system, the consequences will bite at their heels until their grave.
@Tyson Rinker Not to mention McClintic being transferred to a healing lodge in Saskatchewan. It's min to med security. There's also question about whether or not she's actually Aboriginal. I remember there was a vote in parliament about overturning that but it was voted down. Those lodges exist for a legitimate reason. The fact she's abusing it like that is disgusting. Shows how remorseful she is.
@Sergeant Fatts support for the death penalty inherently means supporting executing innocent people, just as supporting prisons means supporting locking up innocent people. I do support prisons still, but not the death penalty. Because you can let an innocent person out of prison...
@Byzantine Darkwraith using the death penalty requires "proof beyond all doubt", at least in theory. And it would logically allow for appeals, with stays of execution while the defendant goes through the motions.
The 25 year minimum for parloe in Canada is the "faint hope" clause. All murderers, 1st and 2nd degree, get life. 1st degree may be eligible for parole after 25 years minimum. 2nd degree 10-25 years before parole eligibility. Mainly there for the corrections officers, so that not all murderers have nothing to lose and therefore more likely to kill a CO. We haven't had the death penalty in Canada since the 1960s.
It means he has a chance to get out in 25 years ( Its deff a slim chance for it tho for what he did ) and if it makes you feel better , prison is horrible for pedos. So heās pretty much gonna get fucked up every day , thats at the very least 9000+ days of torture.
ShayDale in Canada, 1st degree murder by law comes with an automatic life sentence, but something was created (I think itās called the āfaint hope clauseāāor something) that requires that after 25 years they be eligible for parole. Eligible, not by any means whatsoever guaranteed. So by the time he gets to 25 years, heāll be old, frail, and sick, and most likely every year applying for parole but getting denied and denied until heās dead
In the Netherlands you get 5 years for rape if you're unlucky. Unless you're an illegal immigrant, then you get off with nothing. Reading cases like this boils my blood, when the judge is so lef... I mean 'insane' that they pretend that rape is acceptable in Islamic culture and that he didn't understand that raping a mentally handicapped girl was bad because of his background.
Thereās 0 chance this guy will get out on his first parole opportunity. Even with immaculate behaviour itās still likely he will be placed on the dangerous offenders list and be in prison for life.
@Christina your right it does suck over txt. It's just everyone on here has to tell me how his sentence is good enough or how it will work out and all I did was try to say theres not really a sufficient punishment for that crime that's not cruel.
@The Eyes Have IT That's actually not how the justice system works. Death is maximum penalty (and, for poorer less developed nations, the cheapest), an eye for an eye is the maximum penalty, a hand for a hand is the maximum penalty, but people could easily settle for less than death, less than an eye, less than a hand. Settlements are inherently a part of the system, and if the family who lost their daughter are fine with a life sentence rather than the maximum death penalty, then it is justice served. This is the main problem with the death penalty being abolished...people couldn't seek the maximum justice if they truly desired it. A life sentence is no longer a freely chosen mercy by the wronged party, in comparison to death.
I still feel like that about Casey Anthony. My blood boils when I think of her, which is in much. But, these people are right up there with all the other POS's that do things like this to innocent children.
@Hope TheBabes that's complete and total bullshit. That's EXACTLY what the police will tell you too. It doesnt matter if you're innocent or guilty, if you're in a setting like this, ask for a lawyer. Period.
NOFACE - and thatās exactly why you need a lawyer, itās easy to say āmistakes happenā when youāre not the one paying for a crime you didnāt commit
@Barney Clifton Tell that to the person who gets pulled over a mile away from a drifting spot just to be told he was chasing you from the parking lot and you were evading.
All he wanted was a sorry even though he was lying, I could have said sorry or been arrested.. And I had a dash cam as backup for the "evasion" at least.
ā@NOFACE - I would ask for a lawyer especially if i was innocent since I tend to be and idiot and i wouldn't know how answers could turned against me.
It's a smart play. Maybe don't ask for a lawyer at the roadside, but you can fully enforce your right to remain silent. And, on the off chance you don't have the right to remain silent (such as before you've been arrested) answer all questions with "I don't know."
@Kelvin For clarification it was a rare snow day for western washington and I wanted to take advantage of it with some stock Impreza fun. It was just my car and a friend riding along.
He said he tried pulling me over right out of the parking lot, I saw him 1 mile later way behind me. He got close to me and turned his flashing lights off, I kept driving like normal hoping he'd leave. Pulled me over 3 miles later before I dropped my friend off at his place (kinda a back road). I said I didn't see him till a mile later a couple times not in a argumentative way but apologetically like "sorry I didn't see you till later" he got mad and said to stop lying so I just gave in and said sorry I won't do it again. After that I got some berating and he left me with a warning.
Given his accusations he could have arrested me for evasion, and if I didn't just say sorry he might have out of anger, can't say for sure but an apology was faster than finding out.
I want a lawyer even if you know you were breaking the law? that sounds like a waste of time.
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Jason B2021-02-28 20:10:21 (edited 2021-02-28 20:12:30 )
Would only be relevant in an interrogational context where the officer(s) didn't witness the underlying crime(s) in person. Depending on where you live, most parts of a traffic stop must be fully complied with because, upon other reasons, the officer initiating the traffic stop has almost always witnessed the pertaining factors directly.
@Kevin flynn Yeah and if you're really unlucky you might get a cop who's just looking to incriminate anyone and get blamed for a crime you didn't commit. There's a video of such a cop on this same channel.
Was once pulled over by the police, and put in their van for my lights on my car They gave me the whole āYou do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.ā spiel and I was like wth. It's just some lights on the car!
Never been to court over it ofc. Got my lights changed the very next day.
Essentially I bought a Japanese import car, and the seller that I bought it from didn't change the lights to make them UK legal.
@Dis2good No, do say a word. Say clearly that you are invoking your right to remain silent, and you will not answer any questions. If you don't, the interrogation will go on, and they can even use complete SILENCE against you in court.
my dads friend bought a brand new car off of a guy who, little did we know, was a drug dealer. when he bought it the car looked absolutely spotless, but then he was pulled over. cool right? they ask to search the car. in my dad's friend's mind he had just bought the car, he couldnt possibly get in trouble for something in it, so sure, they could search the car. wrong. there were unprescribed xanax in the floor, and he was charged with possession of a controlled substance. he lost his license for 15 years. always say you do not consent to any searches
Exactly.. you never talk to the police without a lawyer.. chances Are if your in an interrogation room your a suspect... 75% if not more of convictions come from people talking too much
My fatherās family in the 70ās their child was raped murdered and left under the front porch. The men that committed the crime were found within weeks, no one revenging the death of the child went to jail
The police have to act a certain way. They have to maintain professionalism and they could not lie in these interrogations. These tapes are clearly recorded and may be used in court. Would you want a violent police physically hitting the unarmed and cornered criminal be shown to a judge and jury? At best, the criminal could get a less harsh sentence because the police abused their power in the interrogation. Best? The criminal case is thrown out altogether and the criminal doesn't get sentenced.
They got life in prison with the chance of parole after 25 years. Doesn't mean they're gonna get it, he probably won't but the girl has a chance if she's on good behavior the entire time.
i am... 3 mins in... almost 4 min.... and its hard to press the play button again. and yet... i feel the need to know what horrors are happening in the world. :'c
i "finally" watched it 1 day later... and i gotta say it was less horrible than i even imagined... which is "funny" since the investigator sais "what people imagine is often worse"? edit: ...sorry i cant explain well what i mean. and it is unimportant towards the horrors that ended brutally sad a young life.
Itās disgusting, how could she let him rape and murder her while she called her name for help ? Both of them are monsters for what they did pure evil
@Gina Pineda They are monsters, but she was also a teenager who was groomed by a man in his late 20s. He got with her when she was a minor. There's no question in my mind that she's where she belongs, but there also is no question that had she never met him, she would never have turned into the monster she became.
@Amelia Bee I'm pretty sure in her trial, they brought up an incident of her microwaving a dog to death as a child. She was raising red flags before he sunk his claws into her.
@Healing and Growth -INFP First off sorry to hear that, I was saying she did those things as further evidence this incident wasn't really about her being groomed because she did those before she met the guy
Then after the stones talk they will throw them at his face until he stops breathing. Yay India! By the way ...oh the food is amazing! I go to the Indian restaurant frequently!
Iāll never be able to forget Terry describing Tori on his lap crying for help. I canāt get the visual out of my head and I am sick with grief. That poor girl. Bless the people on this case for finding this piece of crap. This detective is especially awesome
you can tell every tear he shed was only for himself and it really makes my blood boil. even after all that grilling near the end, he showed no emotional reaction that would hint at remorse for what he did. he only felt guilty for getting caught and he only holds sympathy for himself.
@alan caprock there's a morbid entertainment in watching the absolute worst sides of humanity. people don't watch true crime media out of sympathy for the criminals, it's honestly a bit weird that you would think that.
@alan caprock Wtf are you talking about? Their comment wasn't about the quality of the video itself, it was a comment about how disgusting the criminal is. Is he only supposed to watch the video if he enjoys the way the criminal acts
@Charles Vandevoir The detective playing the role of "bad cop" towards the end of this video makes little effort to hide his disdain for this twerp... I don't know what the Canadian correctional facilities are like but in the states an inmate would definitely get him at some point. I've done some work for the Illinois prison system so I've had some long conversations with correctional officers.
The interrogator comes across as insincere, manipulative, and entirely too smitten with the sound of his own voice. His "technique" seems certain to make a suspect clam up. The only "mental fatigue" he induced was that of sheer boredom.
Ikr he's soooo boring to listen to, he's in love with his voice, extremely sympathetic yet extremely factual and also very intellectual with his consistent smart choice of words. But I wish I could "turn back the clock" and save myself from his rambling lmao. Realistically this is all a ploy to get the victim to get so bored he confesses haha. Also mental fatigue. The "distraction effect" is also very useful as stated, he keeps talking and talking so the interogatee can't form coherent thoughts.
Well, itās a bit easier for Canadian detectives because unlike America, Canadians donāt have the right to remain silent. Theyāre silence can be used against them in court. If, while being interrogated, the suspect says āI want a lawyerā, it wonāt stop anything. The interrogation will continue, and if you remain silent in the interrogation room, theyāre gonna play that back in court to try to make you look bad. Theyāll play it off like āif heās innocent why wonāt he answer simple questions? Must be hiding somethingā.
In America thereās no such thing, in America as soon as a suspect says āI want a lawyerā, the cops have the end the interrogation. Silence canāt be used against a suspect in America.
Man I hate when they say it's a mistake u made no is stupidity I haven't ate man I would starve him cause the person he killed ate going to eat coward š
That's Detective Jim Smith.......he has the patience to talk to a suspect for 10+ hours if he needs to in order to get the confession....he's the best!
@ZetPham Well I'm sorry for having empathy towards a human being, I guess. This man deserves to be punished for sure. I just said, I find THAT was unnecessary.
the "suspect" actually made a fair point there when he complained that he got picked up by the police and told he did it, thats how it goes, without apparently given the proper chance to explain himself. This reminds me of another video on this channel, where an innocent man being in the wrong place at the wrong time was put in the same situation ( "You were it, we have enough proof, there is no point in arguing you did it, I only want to know why and what people helped you with it etc..." ).
@Cup_Fox albeit Chris apparently prefers to be aggressive in order to enhance his opinion, you have to understand here that the Cop does act according to a strategy to make the suspect confess. And that strategy is getting emotional. His thinking and evaluation of the situation is (or rather should be) rational and planned.
Half way through watching this I started confessing to stuff I didnāt even do just to get him to stop saying the same thing over and over again making me think Iām going insane! šš
lmao but honestly tho if the guy wanted to confess he wouldāve , he just chose not to cause there were some times when mike started saying stuff and the interrogator stopped talking for a min
@Purple Banana st least someone have common sense. He literally explained why he is rambling on. This is to not give the suspect any time to think straight. To keep the suspects mind racing. Yet again that's why people rarely pay attention.
It really pisses me off how these child predators act like cowards when they get caught. Every time they end up crying and demanding to be treated like they are innocent respectable humans. The audacity!
@clare d Taking pleasure in the suffering of others is the first step to the perversion of justice. Offenders like this should be coldly and callously dispensed of (bullet to the head) and forgotten.
I get where you're coming from, but when we deal with people whom we know are monsters, we should be careful to prevent corrupting ourselves.
@EasyFinance no theyāre right. The appeals process, getting the lawyers, case reviews, etc cost a lot of money. And we have that in place bc innocent people have been executed and we are trying to prevent that from happening again.
@TTV_MrJack I'm glad I don't live in a medieval country like the US where Death Penalty is even an option to begin with. No one deserves death or at least no human/goverment should be alowed to decide that.
@Royalgamer7 Each to your own, but someone who rapes and murders a child for joy. Should 100% be put down like an animal. Because that is not a human-social behavior. It is unnatural. Capital punishment isn't in my country of Australia, which is mostly good. But for few things, they should have exceptions.
@QuasiELVIS Well what else can be done? because odds are they'll die in prison. Then they'll need to be isolated for safety. Isolation just makes people go crazy, that's not a punishment because they might forget what they've done wrong.
Not many options, besides just keep em safe and confined in prison. With some nice books to read, free food and rent.
@Demarkil It's not that we don't know that he is objectively human or that human beings are capable of such heinous crimes. But that to be human and what sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom is our ability to have and be moral. When op used the term "human" they are referring to human civility. Most human being are capable of basic moral behavior or an understanding of it. So to treat him as a civilized human being is to treat him with humanity when he acted in ways that are uncivil and contrary to what is healthy and normal human behavior. When he is outside of the norm of what is healthy and normal human behavior by choice he becomes inhuman.
@Shaundra Evans Humans are not the only creatures with a moral compass. Other animals display rudimentary signs of emotional empathy similar to ours. And many humans do immoral things all the time.
And if you want to get into a deeper discussion of ethics and free will, there are many more complexities to add. Let me state that I do believe in accountability regardless of mental state or circumstances. I don't argue for treating someone like this with less than the severity needed to find out what he's done and to prevent him from doing it again.
But to say that some people simply "choose" to act in a way that disqualifies them from the label of being human - that is a sloppy argument which leaves your intellect open to undermining and exploitation by others with ill intent.
I worked corrections for 5 years I worked with rapists murderers child molesters thought I saw everything till my best friend of almost 9 years came back through gate 5 in cuffs the man had been forcing his 4 year old daughter to "play sex" as she put it. I had to be temporarily transferred to another jail cause I knew if I ended up in his section for even a millisecond I would have killed ended up killing himself after his sentencing to prison.
@Lucky Man I don't believe in humanity as a single set, but there are many good humans, from many different backgrounds. The most amazing thing in about life is how many people still hold to what is good in spite of what they've been through and what is going on around us every day.
ā@Dante Skullcrusher I'm so sorry to hear that, it must have been hard to see such horror reach out an plant itself inside your personal circle. It is always harder to bear when it's closer to you, and to think that you've been friends with a monstrous person. The earth shifts and all the things we take for granted seems like mist in the sun. I'm glad your work superiors could keep you from doing something that would have hurt your own life and family, even if I understand your want to kill that man 100%.
@Lars Kullberg I think the principle of the death penalty can be argued for on an ethical basis, yes. However, when we apply it in reality we run into problems, because our justice systems are as imperfect as the people who made them, and certainty is never completely certain. We would execute innocent people, this happens all the time in those jurisdictions that apply capital punishment. And I think the argument that someone ought to be killed because they refuse to admit guilt is a very dangerous one that could, would and has been used to execute innocents.
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Lars Kullberg2021-07-08 18:08:14 (edited 2021-07-08 18:26:10 )
@Demarkil "....our justice systems....is never completely certain." What about DNA- and fingerprint comparisons? Your credibility is at stake here, so be careful what you answer.
@Demarkil "Other animals display rudimentary signs of emotional empathy similar to ours." As far as we know, animals have no conscience. So unless you can prove that your claim is true, there is no reason to believe it is. Also, you label humans as animals. But praise God, we are not animals. Have never been and will never be.
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Lars Kullberg2021-07-09 00:38:07 (edited 2021-07-09 00:44:09 )
@Demarkil "....a system incorporating capital punishment run by your standards would execute innocent people in heaps and droves." You should know better than that, because DNA and fingerprint comparisons are reliable means for tying scum of the earth, like rafferty, to their crimes. ThatĀ“s undeniable, whether you accept it or not makes no difference.
@Dante Skullcrusher ā¦. WOW, thatās heavy. You must have drawn deep within to gain strength to put emotion aside, preventing yourself from becoming another of his victims. I bet you wanted to smash his head in for doing that to his little girl.. you wouldnāt stand alone in that!
It wasn't Rafferty who actually killed and mutilated her. Rafferty sexually assaulted her and she was meant to be dropped off. It was Terri Lyn who went nuts and savagely murdered the girl. She's admitted as much from behind bars,
How does a parent go on in life after losing their child in such a horrific way? The strength it would take to continue on in life, I don't think I'd have it in me.
I truly believe the parents should be allowed to take the option of torturing and killing this person. Itās not fair just to have him rotting in protective custody.
The only way I could even think about 'moving on' is if I were able to 'hand out justice' the the person, rather than him getting a blanket, donut, coffee and granola bar.
People who hurt kids deserve to be hurt, NOT getting a 'free ride' in prison. Go ahead, I dare someone to tell me I'm wrong. I dare someone to make a case for the criminals deserving a trial and to get jail time. š”
@Jasmine London absolutely, I don't think I could live a productive life afterwards..I wouldn't be able to stop thinking about what my kid had to endure in their last moments of life...It would kill me.
@Power Of Berzerker I agree completely, if you steal another person's basic human rights by taking their life- your basic human rights should be taken too! No privileges, nothing!
I know a mother whose eldest child (21 yo at the time) killed her other two children out of jealousy. She lost three, two by the hands of the one that now is living in prison and will do so for the rest of his life. Overall, I'm actually surprised that she still went on.
@SĆriocaz wow that's just so terrible..there's really not a strong enough word for describing how that would feel for a mother. Its incomprehensible to me how anyone could carry out murder, especially children.
litterally why im scared to have children, like i would litterally not be able to cope if something happened to them , knowing how fucked up the world is .
I cant even imagine. It's my biggest fear, that one of my kids will happen upon this kind of monster. It gives me so much anxiety. I dont even like to think what I'd do.
Humans are capable of amazing things. We have resilience, and we have one another. Those two can enable folks to push through things we can't even imagine.
After years of trying, i have a 3.5 years old daughter. When i come home after work, the moment she runs towards me literally means the world to me. Watching this video made me cry like a child. This is a very very sad world we live in.
My cousin William has been to prison before and he talks about how if you killed or raped a child theyād make your time there HELL. I hope those bastards are getting some good punishment.
I was in the drunk tank once for underage drinking and they basically put everyone there who just came in, drunk or not. This lady came in and someone in there whispered that she was there for child abuse and the room got very cold and weird and then she was promptly removed and put by herself. The girls in the corner told me they were discussing what to do with her before that.
Yep. Guards work with inmates to ensure they get what they deserve which i usually wouldn't condone but those who harm children deserve it. End of story
it sucks and when I watch these videos I keep getting freaked out he's going to find my homework folder and the programming socks bag they genuinely build anxiety and yet I keep watching them since train wrecks are things I can't avoid encountering or looking at
Well, if you are open and honest then it wouldnāt be bad. I donāt think I lied to my mom when I was in high school. She trusted me and let me do more things because I was open and honest and careful. In return, I trusted her and felt safe with her. I was comfortable calling her to pick me up from a party when I was 18 because the person that brought me there was drinking a lot. She didnāt get mad at me and she was glad I called and happy to get me. I called her to get me when my friends were doing illegal things when I was 17 as well. She was just proud I called and she loved me.
A mother of a friend of mine was of this occupation. She falsely accused another friend of something, and made him, a 19 year old man, cry after an hour of intense interrogation. She was a machine.
Gotta respect the defense lawyer. He know Michael did it, he knows the case can't be won, but he's right. Everyone has a right to a public defender, and even when the client deserves endless torture for their actions, he still steps up and does his job like a professional.
I was looking for this comment. I agree too. It leaves me uneasy though, because that "chance" becomes ingenuine if the defense is lying, and they probably have to, usually.
@James Nnabuihe The defense lawyer is there to make sure the prosecutor trap or fully justify why their client should be in prison, It's their job to make sure they are air tight.
@Stefan Nope. Know why? If the defense attorney thinks "this guy is obviously guilty and did something so repulsive I'm not going to do anything to defend him", the creep goes free or gets a new trial due to improper representation.
The defense attorney has to put up a legitimate defense. Even if hes guilty the defense should bring up mitigating circumstances, such as "he suffered childhood abuse" or whatever.
In cases like this the purpose of the defense isnt to get him free. They are trying to give him a fair trial and weigh all evidence on both sides, so that if the creep ever comes out and says "I was improperly convicted, the defense didnt defend me" the law can review the trial, and say no, you got a fair trial. Emotionally we look at these cases and say that guy is worse than an animal. He deserves the worst torture. But the law is supposed to be unemotional.
ā@Fbai I love how you worded this. They're not always trying to prove innocence, they're also making sure no injustices were done in the process, everything's airtight like you said, and they've had EVERY opportunity at fairness. After that it's sometimes trying to get the best deal possible for their client.
some people don't realize that the downplaying the detective did and the constant talking was much more damaging and effective than if he would have been straight forward. He knows what he was doing.
When the second officer said "Do you know how blood works?" My jaw dropped because of how he said it with such sarcasm and showed his non existent sympathy and empathy towards the suspect
Oh my god. I was struggling to remember why this case sounded so familiar as I was listening to it in the background, until I suddenly made the connection between Tori and Guelph. I lived in Guelph for some of my childhood, and I still remember being driven past her memorial post every single day. Jones Baseline and Highway 124. There were flowers and wreaths laid at that telephone post for years afterwards. All I understood at the time was that something terrible had happened to a girl who was around my age, and I felt so helpless and angry that she had died under such horrific circumstances. I'm so fucking glad to know that this remorseless piece of shit was eviscerated by these detectives from the OPP. I hope he rots in hell for what he did to poor Tori. It's so much more than what he deserves. She would have been around my age now... just thinking about what happened to Tori makes me furious and beyond sick to my stomach, and so, so devastated that a beautiful young girl's life was ended for nothing but to satiate the appetite of a repulsive monster.
Bless the detective at the end for telling that monster what awaits him. He can never suffer enough, but that detective certainly did his best to impress upon him the repercussions he'd soon suffer. I hope it was even a fraction of the suffering he imposed upon that child and I wish with everything I have that he is handled by his fellow inmates.
I almost cried throughout some parts of this video. The crimes committed were disgusting. RIP, this poor, innocent child. Condolences to her family and friends.
@Tom also, all your other comments on this channel are just looking for fights, so I will not reply further. I hope you are not doing this through hatred for life, I sincerely hope you are mentally doing well. I wish you the best in life, have a good night :)
The fact that rape even exists is sickening Iāve been through it and god I canāt imagine being that young dealing with that and then getting murdered I hope sheās resting peacefully now and her family are coping the best they can this world is so messed up itās sad. I have a daughter now and it hurts thinking this could happen to any kid even mine it takes one minute to kidnap someone.
I have never felt this physically disgusted. Ever. I am so sorry to everyone effected by this; I'm sure what I'm feeling is only a sliver of what you have had to go through.
This guy is doing an amazing job......the skill of the interrogation and the tactics used are fantastic.....not to mention the self control he (the cop) has not abandon his persona and not do what we would all want to do and completely loose our shit with this monster.
just tried to watch some other interrogation channels and can"t. have been totally spoiled by the smart analysis provided on JCS. wish this channel was still going. nothing else comes close.
I'm glad they have such an experienced and level-headed detective for this, because if it was me I would be spilling blood the moment I saw this abhorrent beast. Slowly.
I am against the death penalty on principle. But it is sometimes not easy to stick to your principles. Some people walk among us as if they were one of us, but inside they are monsters.
I liked watching the last investigator telling what all of us wanted to say. Because normally in these types of videos there isnāt that part, itās just tactical. But this one, no. Itās pure venting.
idk why but itās really disturbing that she was kidnapped on my birthday. While I was blowing out candles and eating cake with my family, she was simultaneously getting banged in the head with a hammer. The kid wouldāve been in college right now if it wasnāt for this š
This is why capital punishment exists. If it was my country, the victim's family would decide his fate once the guilty verdict has been established.
There are 3 options available for the family: eye for an eye, forgiving or blood money. If they devide to go with eye for an eye, then it is death by by a shooting squad.
I watched a lot of these recently and the main strategy they all uses is victimization of themself.
I can understand why they do that, its because its work in real life. Nobody can be as firm when they interrogate a family member or gf/bf. Normal people has to release at some point because they lose the person and will never have the truth.
It must have taken Jim Smyth every ounce of restraint in his body to not leap across the table and rough Rafferty up when he mockingly said, "funny man" to him. It's alright though, I feel he put him in his place with his stern words.
āIf I thought you were a monster Iād stay a little to see what makes you tickā itās like a cat just taunting itās prey, there must be a satisfaction in being able to taunt these monsters
Horrific monsters live among us & prey on our children & grandchildren. It would be total justice if he is living each and every single day & night the unholy nightmare he put that baby through at the hands of monsters just like him. Tory's poor parents have to live with the knowledge of the horror their innocent little girl endured before she was so cruelly ripped from their lives by the hideous & selfish acts of not one, but two monsters. I pray for them. I hope they've managed to somehow find peace.
"You're not monster", "Maybe things just got out of hand, just a mistake."
To me these tactics always feel sketchy, I'm sure there's an argument as to the time and place for these statements, and maybe even an expected response to the statements whether guilty or innocent, but these seem to me like a 100% trap, which makes me hopeful they are only used when the suspect is already known to be guilty, but I also feel like people could fall into the trap even if they aren't.
I think you're right about them only doing this when they're sure, i mean this monster says nothing during this interview so nothing was really gained in a legal sense but they clearly didn't need him to say anything as he was found guilty anyway.
I'd love the chance to talk to this detective/behavioral analyst. what is the purpose of the lengthy interrogation? The physical evidence and witness testimony really is enough to convict. What does the interview gain? I feel like the crime itself speaks to motive, is the purpose just to add tools in case other evidence is thrown out?
Only 25 years for raping and murdering a child? What a horrible system.
At the absolute bare minimum, there should be a court prescribed beating for such an action. I'm not saying to paralyze them for life but just beat them to the point where they have debilitating physical pain for a very long time.
We hear about how these sorts get "beaten up and murdered" in jails, and perhaps it's true for some, but as I understand it, the majority are put into "high risk" areas where they are kept apart from gen pop. It's a bitter pill to swallow to think that two twisted people could kidnap, rape, and murder a child so young and face virtually nothing as a result.
They have to sit behind some walls with guards and other inmates. Oh, what a horrible life! To get three meals a day, clothes and shelter! What terrible suffering they must go through! I hear that prison food doesn't taste very good - that must be so hard for those child raping murders to deal with. To not have a say in what kind of jello they're going to be eating that day. Those poor souls!
I do not understand how we allow our systems of justice to be so absolutely weak and inadequate. A pathetic, shabby vessel of meaningless garbage. The victims have no relief and the guilty no sense of terror. The entire thing had rotted away from the standards it was built upon.
Rafferty is going to have a very bad time in prison, in Ontario prisons no-longer have protective custody just general population, inmates have families too and a murder conviction against an 8 year old child will not go over well with other inmates. I like this interrogator he just keeps rambling giving Rafferty no time to think
It would be worth doing time in prison just to have the chance of being confined in the same cell as Michael Rafferty. His suffering would be legendary - even in Hell.
Really concerning how on all of these types of videos, people in the comments love wishing and imagining all types of suffering on the torture on the perpetrators. I can understand it as an initial reaction but it's something we have to move past.
a lot of people likely just write those things under strong emotions, although considering that child murder is a very intense topic and the fact that pedo hysteria exists, most people would still say and probably do those things even without watching such video, which is unfortunate, I think. Such vilification doesn't really help
the greatest deal of patience is needed with this job, something i can only dream of cause if that guy wasnāt talking iād have nothing holding me back from just ploughing his nose with my fist
He said she went for a walk that was her time to save the kidsand call the policeThe women need to go to jail too. She is guilty as well as his guilty. She took the young girl to his car. So upsetting .So glad that she got life.
Not to minimize this technique the detective is employing. I understand the process but holy crap... He's wearing me down I'm ready to confess to him to just to get him to stop the tirade. When do you realize you have jabbered long enough and start the questioning? I love my Canadian cousins up North. They are so darn polite. Maybe he's not eating the donut because they are not Tim Horton's?
Sure I was poking fun but the detective did a great job!
42:42 he says the words āi dont feel comfortable talking about it.ā I genuinely donāt have any words,I. Wdym you donāt feel comfortable talking about you obviously felts comfortable before doing it. It appalls me to wonder how he could even say that. Ugh.
I tell people when I let them know about JCS that what ever you do DON'T let this be the first video you watch ..... Do they shank people in Canada or just have pillow fights ? I mean they must , hopefully he's experiencing that
TS that goes through these people head really scares me because how are you even sexually attracted to such innocent beings? Itās just odd & evil ugh! š¤šš½
Iām not an expert but clearly the method this interrogator used did not work. Would long extended silences have worked better so that the accused would attempt to fill the gaps in silence? I think this guy just shut down completely after hearing this cop talk for about 3 minutes.
His crying is narcissistic, he's upset because he was caught.. That witch is worst than the man.. she picked the child up and delivered her to the sick pos.
They often break down when they have a chance to speak with someone close, like a close relative or a close buddy. Porn is a time bomb, it will turn many into monsters.
Canada: brings in child murderer. āHereās a nice blanket for ya so you can get cozy, and some tea and a donut. Iām sourry thereās only one sugar for the tea.ā
OMG they can try to get parole in 25 years, it should have been a sentence for both without parole. What is wrong with that countries laws. That disgusts me.
The tragedy is that so many people don't realize that thought is often the prelude to action, and that when people, for instance, watch pornography that is based on rape and are rewarded with sexual gratification ... it might be only a matter of time before thought turns to action. And once the abduction of a child or an adult occurs, in desperation of not wanting to be caught, the perpetrator of the crime perceives that the only way to avoid prison, is that the child, or adult, must be killed. Before it became action ... it started with thought.
Jesus the voice of that detective, the fact that he won't shut up, and the repetition of "this is your opportunity to say your piece", "you're not a monster ok?" , would make me confess to anything just to get him to stop droning.
āYouāre not some sick bastard who wants to sit and hurt peopleā yeah I donāt care what your strategy is that man never deserves to hear such a lie as that
I just hope Terry Lynn is given the same verdict. Because tears don't make someone guilty. There actions, like kidnapping a little girl,, which leads them to being killed. And for the detective to say he is having a good time . Lol. Mann. Who is this detective. He needs to be removed.
He's rambling and babbling so much trying to get the guy to start talking. He may as well just start begging the guy to speak. "You haven't even touched your doughnut."
I don't get why that girl got so many years, she is guilty, sure, but she confessed, showed remorse and she was not the one doing the crime apart from abduction
This looks suspicious. The guy never admits to anything. He kept his mouth shut like what we are told. I never hear them give any evidence that he did it. They never mention they found semen on the child. Only that his girlfriend said he did kill her. What about the girlfriend? What penalty is she facing. Could have told a lie to save her ass. I am really concerned that a innocent person is going to jail.
I still don't understand why it is so often called out as sexual assault. It is RAPE. All rape is sexual assault, but not all sexual assault is rape...
When someone is attacked by a bear, you wouldn't say they were attacked by a mammal either. Just call it as it is.
Don't want to defend a criminal but she was only 18 and probably didn't know it would end up like this though... I've skipped some parts of the video so tell me if I'm wrong, but to me it seems she just did what she was told, probably was coerced or something
@elbachsito lol no. Even the best possible outcome of abducting an 8 year old girl for her sicko boyfriend (the rare occurrence where the victim doesn't end up dead) is horrific to comprehend. Being complicit in this kind of crime is abhorrent, no matter which way you look at it.
What could she possibly expected to have happened to deserve leniency?
@moralapostel yeah but she was a teenager in an abusive relationship with an older guy. It's obvious it was his idea and he talked her into it, she probably agreed because she wanted to please him. I mean she's guilty, but idk if I would put them at the same level... But I'm not a cop, a lawyer or even familiar with the case so what do I knowš¤·āāļø
@DesFighter When it comes to 'if it was your family member' well, we would have people killed or locked up for a lot more than we do know. It's better to think rationally. Someone kidnapping a person doesn't deserve the same punishment as someone sexually abusing a minor and then killing them. I can't recall it even being mentioned whether she knew what the guy planned on doing with her. Is she wrong? Yes. Does she deserve years in jail? Yes. Does she deserve the same punishment as someone that sexually abuses then kills a minor? No.
āShe was on his lap, I could hear her calling me name.ā
As a person who was in a similar situation like this, I still hold a grudge to people who saw what happened, who I told what happened and still did nothing.
Often I wonder if they cared or if they truly feel guilty.
Maybe if they said something I wouldnāt be going through this much trauma.
@Yogibearemployee yeah, i can totally see that. Aināt my place and much less my job to judge if at 18 she was too scared or under influence of that monster. But retribution has been pronounced. She got equal sentence to the perp. Only difference her genuine remorse would do is the eventuality of parole.
@Yogibearemployee grown ass adults that share complicity is disgusting ; i totally understand they get the same sentence as the perpetrator. But unless, like there, you can prove they knew (reasonable doubt&all) before the court ; its often the most difficult part for investigators&AGās. Lots of people defend themselves saying they just couldnāt believe their neighbor/parent/colleague was a pedophile. When there is incest in families itās often even more difficult... those are the sort of cases I find hardest to even contemplate. Wears you down like nothing else, and itās hard to not grow bitter if youāre confronted to it too often. I canāt even imagine how victims feel like. I know on the paper, but canāt pretend I could imagine the magnitude of the hardships.
@Thomas AlĆØgre de la Soujeole Yeah although exactly that part (the court procedure and investigation) is wildly different due to that. It took over 10 weeks of court deliberations where the family and prosecution were waiting for a verdict exactly because the perpetrator lawyered up and didn't say a thing. This was after she had come forward admitting to everything, being a witness to the crime giving a detailed description of what happened, where it happened and pointing to the crime scene and so on and so forth. If both had immediately admitted this would have been over immediately. If she had done the same thing as him, who knows what may have happened, maybe they wouldn't have found the body, maybe they wouldn't have won the case, maybe it would have taken months if not years more to finalize the case. So in this case she got the exact same sentence as him, even though they basically cooperated very differently (she admitting and providing evidence and cooperating while him denying up until the last second). In the end, this indicates that cooperating with them and confessing actually didn't help her at all giving him the same punishment as the guy who denied it all. So I think this is where most people are coming from when they say they wonder about the exact same sentence, of course the severity of the crime is the same, what they did is inexcusable. But in order to be able to investigate through it and prove it on court and catch the murder and solve the case, there is a very big difference in those approaches.
@Random Guy yeah ; well, in that case the young woman was pretty screwed as it was. And i mean, an 8 year old kid was kidnapped, raped and murdered. The retribution part of the sentence canāt really go any easier than the possibility of parole. In the end her cooperation will probably get her freedom on parole after 24 years, but that other guy ? Now if that one was given parole thatād be a massive idiocy. I actually think the freedom on parole in the sentencing was addressed to her directly, and not to Rafferty. It appears the same treatment at the moment the sentence is spoken ; but frankly, if that wasnāt a Ā«Ā bundleĀ Ā» sentencing i believe that would have been a life sentence straight.
@Omkar Gawade 'If three people abduct someone and kill them' insinuates that they all commit the murder. In this case, if the man had come to his senses and let go of the child, would the driver still deserve this penalty? I think not. It's simply incorrect to adjust her sentence to actions she has no control over. She needs to be in jail for kidnapping while knowing the consequences could be grave. Wathever happens after that, isn't in her control, and shouldn't be her fault. SO her sentence shouldn't depend on that, it should depend on the actions she took and the risk she was aware of for the child. (at least in my opinion, this is an interesting discussion in my opinion)
Yeah he didnāt have a gun, her life wasnāt in immediate danger, she couldāve easily told any employee at Home Depot to call 911. If she was afraid he would try to make her leave she couldāve even asked a manager to pretend to be holding her for shoplifting until the police came. She had so many chances to save that child without getting herself hurt.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke I will do you one last favor to help you understand the analogy. The safety attached to the person climbing is like the safety society and the school provides to the little kids. The little girl won't follow a random adult man to a secluded spot where no one can see her get pushed in a car. The safety of society won't allow the guy to go anywhere near the girl and forcefully abduct her. So the girl luring the child away into the hands of the man was basically cutting through the safety society provided the kid with.
Now without the safety if anything bad happens to her of course it is her responsibility.
@elbachsito I agree with you. I'm not defending what she did in any way, and she has to pay the consequences. But if anyone says it's as clear cut as her being just as evil for the sake of it, I think that's even more ignorant. People can be so easily manipulated and taken advantage of. Again, NOT giving an excuse for her. But people are so quick to make an assumption and condemn because of the serious nature of the crime. There's usually way more to these things than just pointing the 'you're a monster and that's why you did it' finger.
@elbachsito 18 is a legal adult in the UK if my partner told me to kidnap a child when he dropped me off I'd have ran to the police not proceeded to do so.
In some way worse since without her it's unlikely this would've ever happened and the girl put her faith/trust in the older girls hands, not the guy, illustrating how her trust betrayed and she suffered the ultimate price.
@Joseph I see what you mean but isn't that like saying a person who drives criminals to a bank they're going to rob, is more guilt than the robbers themselves just because they had an early part in it? Not a perfect analogy as this is a murder charge, but people can do insane things through manipulation that they may never do otherwise. It's impossible to tell without knowing more really.
@Omkar Gawade I get it now man, thanks for pointing that out. You're correct on these analogy's I think after rereading them. Would've helped a lot if u responded as a decent person, I would've read them normally instead of biased.
I'm not expecting anyone to teach me how any laws work. Someone commented that in their opinion the laws implemented here may not be the nearest resemblance of justice, I simply agreed with that. That's an opinion. Not everyone is forced to believe every single law simply because it is a law.
You talk about writing an essay about people when you are the one that started doing so, yet you are surprised by people not liking that and reacting to that? You talk about people being stupid and wrong, yet can't grasp the simple principle that insulting people leads to them reacting aggressively? Flat-earthers are wrong because their opinion is scientifically proven wrong. You wan't to call my opinion wrong because it doesn't fit with the law system, a system that differs all around the world, is thought by many to be incorrect in different situations, and is made by people. Again, you want to talk about stupid and wrong, how many intellectuals and lecturers do you know of that try to win a discussion with hard language? Educated people tend to just bring arguments instead of villainizing the opposition. Your name-calling is the simple reason why people are so divided and hate each other so much.
Still, I believe the girl doesn't deserve the same jail time for kidnapping as the guy does for sexually abusing and killing a minor, if you don't agree with that, that's fine, many people here do. Just be civil about it and agree to disagree.
I'd love to examine the behaviour of him and the girl on a day to day, see their dynamics and behaviours, did she fancy him and would do anything for him or what? This is my favourite criminal psychology to date mainly because of the talking skill and logic are used in this interview.
@I have a girlfriend, trust me. I honestly watch a lot of these vids lately, so I didn't recall her knowing what his intentions were, if she did know, then yeah, she should be in for 50+
@Yourboidatboihey For me it depends on how much she knew about what was going to happen, if she didn't know of anything I'd say 30-40. If she did then yeah, 50-60 is fine. It's kinda weird for me as in my country punishments are wayyyy to low. She"d never even get 20 here.
yea she killed that girl tbh ...she played the biggest role in this ...her showing remorse and helping the cops out is cool but it doesnāt really take away a from the end result .
@Natasha Hughes Everybody thinks they'd have done something differently. And yet, almost no one in that situation actually does. Experience > your wishful thinking.
@bob builder Everyone is always the hero, yet during times like war, common people start committing atrocities. Even without war, there is this experiment where groups were divided into prisoners and prison guards (can't remember the name). Go look at what happened there. Not to say that what she did is ok or anything, and she should be in jail for decades. But you underestimate how easily manipulated people are.
@Derp Y-Derp I donāt think, i am sure. I wouldāve never put or will put an innocent child or being in that situation. I am very sure. I am not speaking for you or anyone else, and you donāt know me to say what i would or wouldnāt do. Maybe i fall in that very small precentage that actually help someone instead of taking them to their death.
@Natasha Hughes Preventing crime is such a low priority that a lot of people see it as 'siding with the criminals'. It's really frustrating, but at the end of the day, if you want to stop people from wanting to do certain things, you're probably going to have to understand them.
@Derp Y-Derp You're mixing up trying to understand the criminal's mind, and determining his sentence. They are two different things. Try to understand the kidnapper all you want, but still the sentence doesn't depend on the emotional state of the criminal, it depends only on the facts of the case, it doesn't matter if the criminal was abused as a child or whatever other reason, if bad things happen to you, you don't get the right to harm other INNOCENT people.
So the people letting their emotions affect their reaction to her sentence are wrong.
Another important thing is that when you're trying to understand a criminal don't begin to sympathize with them. Like how the first detective acted like a friend towards that guy, but when he left he didn't even bring him the promised food, even when he said he was hungry. Of course, you might feel like sympathizing with them, cause in the end we are all humans, but remember sympathizing with her, is an insult to the little girl she helped rape and murder. So don't let yourself feel bad for her.
Why are you looking at this case like it's the first time something like this has happened, criminal psychology has been dealing with people like her for centuries. We have already analyzed criminals like them but that hasn't helped stop crime. If you really are thinking about how to prevent crime, what NEW suggestions different from what we have now, have you thought of?
It is easy to say "How do we actually prevent this sort of shit from happening in the first place?" but finding an effective solution to the problem of crime hasn't been possible in the entire history of mankind. So all we can do is continue to protect ourselves and PUNISH criminals as we have been doing.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke Let's not waste time thinking about the little conflict we had, if you are still interested in this topic you can go through a comment I made just before this one.
First and foremost, understanding the criminal is one of the most critical parts of determining their sentence. Why do you think so much time is spent trying to monitor remorse, state of mind, risk to re-offend, etc?
As for the emotional state of the offender not mattering, I can't even believe that you don't know this stuff but felt like you had to jump into this discussion to correct somebody else... Emotional state is maybe the most critical element of establishing intent. That word comes up an awful lot in felony trials.
Im from Woodstock and she actually was sent to a āhealing facilityā out west but soon as the public found out there was sooo much backlash she was directly sent back to jail. FUCKING WASTE OF FLESH.
@elbachsito they switched her charged to first degree murder after looking into her role and she got sentenced to life in prison. She did it of her own free will and simply felt bad after and cooperated
@elbachsito she lead a girl to her brutal death??? "she was only 18" she was old enough. don't infantalize her. she knew what was gonna happen and did it anyways
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke Yes absolutely she does. Wouldntāve happened without her. Sheās a part of the crime noyāt a victim. She had a choice and she took part in those atrocities. Even if she was coerced, even if she was manipulated. She did it. Now she pays for it
@Sebastian Johansson Depends on the jail etc, life in prison should be worse than that simply cuz of the mental impact. With todays prisons idk how much of that is still true tho. (I don't kniw a lot about thus kind of topic)
@Rhys 'defending'? You even know what that means? I never said anything she did was ok or excusable. I've said many times in these comments that she should be in jail for >40years. Is that defending? I just disagree with the sentence being the same for her as it is for the guy.
@Omkar Gawade Good comment. I think I know where our difference in opinion comes from! I live (and grew up in) a country where stuff like mental state, upbringing, .. are taken into account when determining the sentence.
I'm also not saying this is a better way of doing it, I think our justice system is way to soft. But that's probably why this whole thing feels so 'weird' to me. Thanks a lot
@Omkar Gawade Also man, I see your typing a lot to other People as well atm, but don't lose yourself in it, there will always be someone new. Take care
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke acctually you were saying "she should be charged with kidnapping" which carries a maximum sentence of twelve years. With good behavior she would be out in 6 years meaning she would be released very soon. This monster knew exactly what was going to happen to this young girl and went through with it to get a fix of heroin. Tell me how you were advocation for 40+ years? Sometimes I wonder why people can't just admit there were wrong online. Stop arguing your point when your point is wrong.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke as I said I don't really care about winning an argument, or looking bad if I lose one. I do it completely for myself, to learn something new and to improve my skills, so I don't care what someone on the internet thinks about me. If someone is an annoying person who doesn't even read what the other person is saying and only wants to prove himself right, I just ignore them, which is why I was unwilling to spend time during our initial conflict. So thanks for your advice, and may luck be with you.
@elbachsito being 18 in a abuse relationship doesnāt make it less criminalising she knew he was violent and still went through with it, she delivered that little girl to a monster she is on the same level except she felt more guilt witch only makes her more empathetic!
@Julie Exel she has empathy for what happened but let it happen she could have killed the one doing the atrocity and saved the little girl, in the laws eyes sheās just as guilty and is well deserved, she may not have committed the murder but she most definitely knew what he was going to do and still went through with it
@Rhys I was advocating for 40+ due to the outcome of the kidnapping? I'll repeat it for the 10th time, I believe she deserves a different punishment from the guy, that is my main single argument I've made here, yet u completely ignore it then act like they proved me wrong xd
Look at the other guy I had a discussion with, he proved to me why what she did was a lot worse than kidnapping, qnd I agreed with him. So before u want to come out claiming shit about me, do the minimal effort of reading the actual stuff I wrote here
Preach. I have some sympathy for her apparent stupidity but goddamn... If I were her I would have just considered myswlf spoiled and thrown myself out by now
@Yogibearemployee it's human nature to avoid confrontation like this. It's a terrible and horrific aspect about us. Doesn't mean this girl is innocent, but understanding this aspect of humans is the best way to teach us how to step up when something happens around us.
This is called the bystander effect and is the reason people will drive by a fresh car accident or do nothing when they hear someone screaming. They instinctively will avoid the situation and tell themselves whatever story makes it easier because confronting the situation would be admitting that it happened. Further enforced by the fact that this girl knew that she abducted the child. She's got every aspect of an innocent bystander (in her mind) that makes them not want to get involved but also the fear of her own life/future. For this reason I'm not surprised she did nothing. She did however, abduct a child. I don't care about your situation, there's no safe reason for a selective kidnapping, let alone a kidnapping in general. I believe her guilt over doing nothing but I can't understand her choice to abduct the child.
For the record, please know I'm not attacking or telling you that you should feel anything sympathetic towards this girl's actions. I'm not criticizing your personal hatred for those who standby and do nothing, especially after experiencing it yourself. I'm just trying to explain the psychological response the girl had in this situation.
But seriously, why did she do that? How did she justify to herself kidnapping a girl to take to her boyfriend other than the kid being hurt? Therefore, she knew she was doing harm to an inocent person, she's only regretting it and crying about it cause she got caught, not because she cares aboyt the lil girl. At least that s how i see it, she's just as sick and twisted as him.
@elbachsito You are wrong, it was later revealed it was she who bashed the girls head with a hammer and is currently serving a life sentence for first degree murder.
@elbachsito being 18 is the most terrible excuse for "she didn't know that abducting a girl for your bf to assault and murder was wrong". Pretty sure even children know that's wrong
@elbachsito The video didn't cover her history, but according to news reports, Terri was born to a stripper, given to and adopted by a different stripper, moved from place to place frequently as a child, started doing weed when she was 8, tortured her family dog with a microwave and claimed that another dog did it (the dog had to be put down), was put into foster care at 12, got into fights with other kids, became a frequent user of hard drugs, and badly beat her foster mom when she was 16. She also kept a notebook in middle school where she wrote about murdering people who pissed her off. While she was, certainly, manipulated by Rafferty, she was not exactly a victim in this, either.
@elbachsito I'm 18 years old with a 6 year old brother, you know how fucking- I can't even describe how out of touch with reality I'd be if I had ever found out my younger brother was lured, molested and beaten to death, I would go into a horrible blind rage after that man just thinking about if anything has happened to him. She knew what was going to happen to that kid and she did Nothing to save her life, it's absolutely sickening and her age has Nothing to do with it, she was a fucking adult.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke I think they have to think of it from a community safety perspective too. She witnessed an awful crime and never reported it. She confessed once they were caught. And being a main accomplice in such a crime and not reporting it means that she was probably willing to do this again for him had Tori not been killed. Was she going to just pick up girls for him to molester and then bring them back? Was that what she thought would happen? We rational people most certainly would have reported the request in the first place and not gone and acted on the abduction knowing what was about to happen to an innocent child. Someone with even that mindset does not deserve to be walking among us. I would prefer them in jail.
@elbachsito bro she literally admitted to being the one who actually tortured (broke the 8 year old's ribs with a hammer) and killed (bashed in the head with the hammer) the girl during the trial after trying to pin everything on the guy when the guy was only responsible for driving and raping the child.
@elbachsito The amount of people saying things like this is truly disgusting. Think critically about exactly what you're trying to say here. Maybe you could do a bit more research on the person you're defending next time as well.
@elbachsito all 18 year olds know it is bad to cover up a murder and not talk about it. Even my sister with trisomy 21 knows that. Heck even my 3 year old baby cousin know its bad. Most people arenāt that stupid.
I want to know where the kids mom was when they took her from a freaking Home Depot? Young children should be glued to you where ever you go. You donāt see any animal in nature not being around their children.
To those wondering: I found articles that detailed her past a bit. She had a troubled childhood, but she was always extremely violent. Apparently she microwaved a dog when she was little and would fantasize about brutally beating people. She had a long criminal record of violence too. Her being young and having trauma is no excuse though. There are tons of people with similar pasts who would rather die than hurt someone that badly intentionally.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke the crime was definitely going to take place, unless that girl had made another choice. Any other choice and that little girl is alive. She got what she deserves. She aimed, pointed, and pulled the trigger and he was the bullet that killed that girl.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke civil enough answer for ya? Now that we know what a sicko she was too, you still want to waste your time defending those kind of people, or you got something better to do? Why sympathize with the perpetrators anyway unless for some reason you can relate and see yourself doing the same thing in her position. If you can't, but it's so disturbing you would NEVER do that, then it should be obvious she got what she deserved.
@Julie Exel yes actually it was she who killed the child, it came out at the trail that she bashed her head open with a claw hammer she brought with her. She also had a violent history where she had put a dog in a microwave and turned it on, then she said that another dog had done it, the dog had to be put down. At 16 she also beat up her foster mom.
@Clarence Worley Oh yes, I'm defending her so hard and sympathize with her so hard! That's why I said she deserves 40 years in jail right? Do people like you even read?
According to your logic we could just put life in jail on anything we don't see ourselves doing and 'they got what they deserved', good thinking.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke by my logic there are reasons I could kill someone, Rob a bank, and commit a lot of crimes, but under no circumstance would I ever have anything to do with a little girl getting raped and murdered. It's one crime that that can't be ever justified in any way. Most people have the ability to kill and Rob if the situation fits, and most people wouldn't be able to do that to a girl under any circumstances. Understand the logic now genius?
@Clarence Worley Yeah sureeee, people wouldn't be capable of doing so right? Oh wait, World war II anyone? It's not that long ago where normal day to day people turned into the kind of monsters commiting atrocityes (idk how u write the word and idc), or how about the prison experiment where they also took 2 groups of normal people?
But hey, if u ever kill someone I can just tell their parents that they would've done the same and we're fine right? What a way to run the justice system.
Also nice how u just skipped the part where I'm defending her, scared of making yourself look more foolish, yet chosing to insult me in your last line, nice
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke I didn't skip anything fool, read the other comment. WW2 argument you are really reaching on that one, but ww2 has nothing to do with this
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke no you're wrong 1st if you read the other comment I said you saying exact same thing her defense attorney would say and want a reduced sentence. 2nd what a few people did during a war is not what most people would do. Understand now?
@Clarence Worley first part of what u write makes 0 sense, idk what ur even typing. 2nd part, try millions. Also try many well documented study's. Understand now?
@elbachsito ādonāt wanna defend a criminalā goes on to defend a criminal
she is just as worse as this PoS imo. Tori might still be alive if she hadnāt lured her away to look at a āpuppyā. Sorry pal, but at 18 years old you know damn well that if you lure a child off someplace that that child is never coming back.
You should feel ashamed imo for even attempting to justify her actions by saying āmaybe she was coercedā. She was an adult who lured a child off to be raped and murdered by her friend.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke She was a legal adult that was involved directly in a premeditated murder and committed a kidnapping of an 8 year old. Very hard to justify much less when you really say it all out loud.
ā@elbachsito an 18 year old is not a kid. she was not some naive puppet in this, she knew at the very least that this child was going to get raped. there was also no mention of him coercing her to cooperate. also, she had plenty of opportunities to call the police. so yeah, you're wrong.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke they dont say this in the video but she was also charged for the murder and connected. google it she deserved life sentence if not more.
@Yogibearemployee I am so sorry I have two sisters I couldnāt imagine what would happen to the both of them if they were gone I would be in total rage and vengeance
For people downplaying her or acting like she was a victim, she had assaulted multiple people prior to this, microwaved a dog, and was very troubled way before meeting this scum bag. Theyāre both sociopaths.
@elbachsito she was 18, an adult, with a mind of her own she couldāve easily not done that itās easy to yk not try to harm a kid. Donāt try to justify what she did with being young, she is sick and disturbed.
@elbachsito I'm 17 and I know that if a grown man asks me to lure a minor to him I know that's gonna get into some deep shit, and I would have probably known that since I was 13 or possibly before. No excuse for all, what a monster, both people.
@Julie Exel she has a past of violence including microwaving dogs. She testified that she kicked, broke rips, and ultimately killed the girl with a hammer. I would consider her a monster but to each is own.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke If she was an 18 year old man instead, I wonder if you'd think the same? She kidnapped a kid, and was there as she was molested then murdered. She sheds tears and says she turned her head away, but so have many women who have been involved in these cases. What if they hadn't been caught and he offended again? In my opinion, it's as if she beat that kid to death too. She should be severely punished because she complied with it by remaining silent.
@elbachsito she knew damn well what he was going to do...she lured a little girl to be raped and murdered and you're making excuses for her?!...nothing to do with age, you know what's wrong and right if you're a decent human being ..she's almost worse than him because a woman should have protective instincts towards a child...she's right where she should be!!!
@elbachsito how the hell is this, get 385 likes. Yes of course the innocent little woman who lured the girl to her death is just a magical fairy princess at 18.
She can go to war, she can drive a car she can vote, she can buy a gun she can lure a girl to her death
@Kantanen Akseli an emotional response to this sort of crime to someone who doesn't think the lady deserves life after hitting an 8 year old with an hammer, seems normal behaviour. She be fooking dead if that was my girl..
@elbachsito at 12 i would have known not to do something like that.. she deserves to rot every second of her life like the monster who physically did that to the little girl.. just cause she wasnt the one to rape and kill her doesnt mean she wasnt responsible for it.
So glad as i said in another comment. This is probably the first time in Canadian history she didn't receive female privilege. She actually got the same sentence as the man.
@Fredrikbb good! Sorry i dont know if my comment was in aa reply ro yours or whoever elses but someone mentioned that she doesnāt deserve the same punishment and i believe she most certainly does, im glad she got the same sentence
@savannah locke No i dont think it was. I was just referring to my gutfeeling (im Swedish) and i believe here she would've gotten away with alot less time. The last statistic i remember in Sweden is Females get 30% less prison time for the same offense (especially the harsh once like murder, childrape etc). Sometimes even less. But our justice system is reverse compared to the US. In the US alot of crimes are judged to harsh. Whilst here in Sweden almost all crimes are judged way to lenient.
The girl being 18 doesnāt matter she knew what she was doing it would be different if she was 13 years old.. but if you hear a young child calling ur name for help automatically would call the police or get some help , also she lured the child to the boyfriend .. doesnāt she think of why her boyfriend would ask for an 8 year old child she is sick and deserves her sentence of life.. no excuses even if a 16-17 year old child was dating an older guy and asked them to bring them they know better when I was that age you know better there is NO EXCUSE FOR THIS SHE IS JUST AS SICK IS HE IS !
@elbachsito Then you fell for her game. After the trial more evidence came out, shes actually the one who delivered the killing blows to Tori. She spilled the beans in 40 minutes because she realized the best thing for her self interest is attempting to pin everything on her boyfriend.
@elbachsito I mean, while I can see where youāre coming from, if I was Toriās mother, I wouldnāt care what that woman was going through cause at the end of it all, Terrilynn still lured that child into his van, and led her to her death, and even if she was alive, she was lured by that woman to a place where she was psychologically traumatized irreversibly. She mightāve been 18, but she was old enough to know that it was wrong.So thereās no sympathy from her on my end.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke violating human rights gets jail time. The other societal restrictions are just add-ons based off of the emotional toll the crime took on all parties.
@elbachsito She was 18. She is old enough to know that being told to abduct a young girl is not something you do. Regardless of how she thought it would end.
@housecat what yāall donāt seem to understand is that he needed her to lure the child to him. This is what makes her just as guilty. Without her, he wouldnāt have ever had his chance. She was an adult and deserves to rot in jail for the rest of her life.
People need to learn to chill tf out in these comments. These two are in jail already, your righteous anger at people who disagree with you is wasted and pointless
"He's a monster. She's a monster". At this point what does monster even mean? Not trying to condone or anything, but this is the kind of thing is part of the problem.
I remember being in 6th grade in Woodstock when this happened. This is the first crime doc Iāve seen where I actually have heard of it prior to the video and it really brings what Iām seeing back into focus. These crimes terrorize entire communities and leave families in ruins. Rest in piece Tori. It hurts seeing the perpetrator so self pitying when they had no pity to speak of for a CHILD.
Im from Stratford Ontario and I remember when this happened a whole gang of us wanted to go find the pricks that did this before the cops did and deliver them to the parents!!!!
The level of restraint to not just smash his head against that wall a good few times is impressive, I have a lot of respect for those interrogaters. Being able to walk out of the room and go home to your family knowing that that guy is gonna be back on the street at some point is something I can't even imagine.
I've been watching a bunch of these videos, and I'm really surprised by the level of cool professionalism these investigators show...It's also funny to see how many people (not you) that get offended by those tactics. Like talking calmly to put the suspect at ease and get the confession is "too good for them" and the cops should be beating confessions out of them or something.
No doubt I realize that they have to maintain their composure and professionalism in order to get the perps to talk, but I'm sure that inside they're just itching to read them the riot act instead or cave their heads in. I'm quite sure that, most of the time, whether they get the perp to talk or not, they conclude the process with the most brutal tongue lashing that they can hand out, basically as was done here. The interrogators would probably need that, if for nothing else than to not go insane from having to keep all that rage bottled up.
It's gotta be satisfying slow rolling a dude, though. Knowing all the friendly rapport stuff is just wrapping on turd filled gift box. You made sure one of the last things they felt before losing their freedom, was deeply betrayed.
@Sam Kopp No sbe would be considered just as responsible. They probably made a deal to testify against him to make sure he was committed. She's as disgusting as he is.
@Sam Kopp under American law, you don't have to pull the trigger so to speak to be guilty of a murder. You don't even have to be there. If you hire someone to kill someone, you are guilty, even more so. She lead the little girl to him, she would be considered just as cupable under the law. Apparently, Canadian justice agreed. She got life and he got 25 to life.
@Mehki Yeah its true that being remorseful doesn't change what the person did or the fact that theyll serve time. But it can affect the judges decision when determinjng the length of sentence. (Like in Dalias case.)
@Sam KoppI've said this before. But under abdomen laws, If i hire someoneto kill someone and even though I'm not there. I'll get punished even more than the killer. She kidnapped the girl. That's a felony in the states and lead her to her death. So either she pled or for some bizarre reason the DA didn't think he could get murder one on her. You know, because her tears are so convincing /s š
@Sam Kopp nah just look at the Casey video to see how women get treated way lighter than men by the criminal justice system. Know what, You donāt even need to look at one measly video, look at the facts and statistics on things like death row convictions and the disproportionate numbers of women who commit the same crimes as men, evading that sentence
@wate nallace Rafferty got moved from a maximum security prison to a medium one a couple years ago due to "good behavior, Canada is a joke and does not believe in fair sentencing it's all about "muh feels" for rapists and murderers
@Cj I remember the watching the Casey Anthony case unfold live on television. It was just that she was a woman, it was that she was a good-looking white woman. She obviously did it. No fucking doubt, and she got away with it. It would be truly unbelievable if I didnāt actually see it myself.
@Mehki she didn't hire somebody to kill the girl. You're thinking of Hitman. He hired her to get the girl for him, not the other way around. She was the accomplice. For her to be the one to hire him she has to be the one that made up the entire plan and she's the one that wanted the rape to be done for it to be the scenario you're suggesting to be true but it's clearly explained that it's the other way around. He was the one that desired help from her. She was the one that actually murdered the girl with the hammer to help him accomplish his goals. Didn't you even watch the video? You're describing things backwards. He'd be considered the one that planned this and under the law, the person whose intent was To Kill, is the one who's in Greater trouble than the Hitman who had no other motivation then money. It still makes the person who helped a shity individual who deserve prison, but you're misunderstanding the law. He'd be the one to get in more or equal trouble for being the one who's intent was the reason the murders were carried out. I'm a law student. I researched this shit a lot.
@SardonicusHello, I watched the video and understood that she brought the girl to him. If you had followed the thread I was engaged in, you would have realized I was giving an example under American laws that you don't have to"pull the trigger" to be considered just as guilty as the person who did the actual killing. If for example you hire someone to kill someone and you're a million miles away when the murder happens, you will still be charged with murder. So whether she bludgeoned the girl or he did, she delivered the child to him and is considered just as culpable under certain laws. But, it seems, they needed her to convict him so she got a lighter sentence. In exchange for her testimony. I'm not surprised in the least with her crocodile tears and "remorse" and she did the bludgeoning. In the crime depicted in the book, In Cold Blood by Truman Capote of the Clutter family in Kansas (I believe) of the two perpetrators, the seemingly gentle one, was the one that slaughtered the entire family. So the fact that she could do it and then fake remorse, well, it's been done before. Great book, read it sometime if you're into true crime. Also there's two movies about how he befriended the criminals to gain access to their stories. Both movies are good.
@Mehki I was reading the whole thread and din't see anything that led me to believe that was what you were talking about, but since you clarified I suppose I just didn't understand the context since I thought you were saying she specifically hired him to kill the girl, but if that's not the case, then meh. I'm bored of this convo already. I'm just here to clarify legal jargon. My bad.
@L S ātransferred from prison to the Okimaw Ohci Healing Lodge for Aboriginal Women on Nekaneet First Nation in southern Saskatchewanā. Yeah theyāre definitely being treated the same, and to make things worse she can actually try for early release in 3 years
Exaclty. I saw someone saying that her life must have been bad and she just wanted to see him behind bars and that she should be helped or some shit. Idk what the hell goes through some peoples' brains. She was the reason they got the child in the first place and the only reason she talked is because they brought her in and confronted her.
so detached from people. I get it . we suck . but when did this man suddenly change. the way he thinks that he "doesn't need to answer to anyone" . how far this is from the bible and judgment ...
lmao right if anything that "bad" cop was as nice as i could ever be
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The Goodest Boy2021-06-01 22:55:09 (edited 2021-06-01 22:55:35 )
@nabs yeah man. stick me in that room and at BEST I'm screaming my fucking head off at him, at worst I'm gutting him on the table to listening to the noises he makes
Yep heard that guy before on several of these murder cases. He seems extremely skilled at what he does. This was more that we wanted to rile him up but still perfectly executed.
It is so infuriating to see and hear that goddamn excuse of a human being say heās scared about ālosing his lifeā for his crimes and whimper and cry because he got caught. Clearly, since he killed an innocent and defenseless child, he was zero fucking regard for life at all. This interrogator put that man through psychological hell. I hope he feels that anguish for the rest of his fucking life. No person who kills and sexually attacks a minor deserves to live. That little girl had such a future. She had a family. She had friends. All she wanted to do was see a puppy and give her mom her butterfly earrings back. But yet Tori was led away, raped, and killed for no other reason than because some gross prick wanted to. I hope he rots.
I had an increasing urge to stomp him out while watching the video especially when he was crying about how they would write down that he ate. He cared so much about himself, but had no care about Torri when he was murdering her.
Iām very protective of my kids. But im feeling an escalation of my situational awareness now that ive seen these videos. Because they people seem normal if they were on the street. No way you could know. Not like they look like quasimoto monsters they are. My kids will do martial arts hardcore. Not to fight other kids. But to learn situational awareness and defend themselves against ANY given threat.
@roach If you want to prevent things like this happening in the future, it's better to get a correct picture than a biased one.
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harry nac2021-12-27 19:13:47 (edited 2021-12-27 19:14:35 )
@roach For instance, some people hate all women, but have no problem with men. So if someone clearly loves his son, you might think he's not capable of doing horrendous things to a girl. It's not in defence of the criminal, it's a way of staying alert.
@VisigoĆ¾ that isn't " doing more for society" its regressing it to a point where vengeance and strong emotions rule the world. We are a civilized society, and we should act like it.
@harry nac I dont have to be polite to triggered snowflakes over the internet. its not required and by no means is the internet the first place to expect anyone to be polite to everyone.
@AboveAll You've been in this thread for two weeks holy shit we have a tank troll here boys he probably weighs as many pounds as he times he's been bullied
@WK why are you so triggered by me? is it because you dont like someone making a valid point, or do you think ive ruined your potential troll game on everyone in this chat?
@AboveAll You don't have to be polite, but you don't have to be rude either, even though it's a tradition on YT. It's also a tradition to think that people who do horrible stuff are 100% horrible. You didn't fall for that one.
You damn right that is beyond evil breaks my heart for this child beyond any words I can describe, God will take of them for harming that precious child, she is at least in heaven no more pain or suffering
Imagine having dealt with stuff like this enough to have witty comebacks ready for a child rapist and murderer. TBH I get so emotional just hearing about this stuff and these guys deal with it, talk to the mother, meet the criminal, I can't even imagine the toll it must take on your sanity.
@Neysiriss It's massive. I grew up around law enforcement and some of these detectives and investigators can't even sleep through the night after dealing with enough of this type of stuff.
The way I think about it is that he must secretly finish the thought with āyouāre a goddamned monsterā in his head. Thatās the only way Iād get through any of this.
LMAO this is hilarious to me because this is literally my dad. It definitely taught me to tell the truth right away; but even then heād still go on and onš¤£
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A W2021-09-03 18:16:52 (edited 2021-09-03 18:36:07 )
>your curfew is 00:00 >you come home 00:02 to see your father, detective Okay sitting alone in the kitchen with only a table lamp turned on, looking at you nodding slowly as to signalise you should sit down at the other chair perfectly set directly in front of him, while he takes off his glasses, starts massaging sides of his head with his hands, sighing with contempt. While sitting down you notice your mother is standing in the living room seeing this scene through the open door in almost total darkness, but as you notice her she starts closing the door slowly, and says - so quietly its pretty much a whisper - "ill leave you two alone"
You have some explaining to do, okay? Thats reality. I cant change that, okay? If this is something that got out of control that you didn't plan or planned to come back earlier, or just go for a ride, thats fine... but it got out of hand, we need to talk about that, okay? You need to sit and explain that say... why, okay? If not, then i say people think the worst until they know... there is no other way, you don't have other options, theres nothing else that you can do to change whats happened, you cant turn back time, however you can explain how things got off the rails... Are you some kind of monster, or did you make a mistake?
āNow I didnāt MAKE you sneak out right? But the fact still remains you smell like alcohol, bloodshot eyes, sliding your speech, letās be real here you went to a party, now what Iām here to find out is WHAT party specifically. Now in about 5 minutes your mom is about to bust through that door and then my hands are tied I just want the truth right? So letās get some truth happening.ā
@Alex Copeland "A little truth is good, don't you think, son? I think it's good. And the good thing about the truth is that it's the truth. Ya know? The truth isn't a lie, son, the truth is what happened. So let's talk about what happened. So you came back late and that's the truth. You're saying you didn't drink but I can smell alcohol all over you. Did someone throw alcohol on you tonight? Who was it? Why did they throw alcohol on you? Come on, you can tell me what happened. The truth is good. Tell me the truth. You haven't even touched your donut."
"This was a mistake, right son? Son, it was a mistake, wasn't it? It was a mistake, son? Son, would you take it back? Would you take it back? You haven't even touched your donut.."
Sometimes I feel they do the long talk when it should have been direct conflict and sometimes interrogators are direct when they should have long talked
I respect the hell out of that man. 17 years of this. The sacrifice he must have had to make in his own morals and maybe even sanity to beable to get and prosecute monsters like this.
The woman could have done anything else to get her drugs. But take a child? She is evil too. There is no way she didn't know something terrible was going to happen to that baby.
You clearly haven't met enough Canadians, Steve up in the forest by me has got a bite force of 1200 psi and can kill seals in a single swipe. Sure he's a polar bear but he's still just as Canadian as anyone else. Just ask mike or the other Steve.
Omg same! Was gonna post that. The canadian interragtors usually offer snacks, soda, tea, and have the cadence of a kindergarten teacher. This guy is gold!!
@niandra ladie Actually nothing wrong with his forehead, it's more of an illusion. It's more as if his eyes have been shifted down an inch while the rest of his face stayed where it was.
Lol! Don't get me wrong here, scum psycho criminals are fearful or too arrogant to think they'll be caught and so they talk and give themselves away and that is BRILLIANT. But literally in any JCS video I watch if the dependent was completely innocent I would be constantly thinking about the right to silence and the No Comment rule.
Mitchell Trubisky Thank you š I was 25 minutes in when I scrolled down and read your comment šš I was wondering if he ever stopped š¤·āāļøš¤¦āāļøš¤Æš¤Æ
Mitchell Trubisky you Cleary have no clue how integration Tactics work he has over 21 years experience he also works in criminal psychology if you didnāt like it then why did u keep watching it. Rather the complain
@Kelsey Ann is that right? And what exactly did we find out from this criminal in an hour? I'll give you the answer, nothing! Never had an opportunity to speak
@Dustin McCoy You watch the video, and you notice he took many opportunities to speak. I don't remember if any of them broke one or two sentences. What the investigators "found out" was nothing but the extent of his pathetic insistence, and he was probably never going to give them any more than that. It's pretty obvious if you pay attention to the flow of the conversation that the suspects' relative silence was what led to the investigator's insane amount of rambling, not the other way around. If the detective just stopped talking like a few folks in this thread seem to want him to, then neither of the people in the room would be talking. If its that or slow-roasting the suspect for an hour, why not roast? They have time.
This guy's one of those far-gone psychos who'll push for not guilty, no matter their situation, for no explicable reason (unless they're trying to gaslight the cops??? who fucking knows, I'm sure there's a specific term in criminal psychology for exactly what I'm saying). This is one of those people that they haven't been able to crack even after all the big-brain research that departments like this one have conducted. It just be like that.
I can see why the police hate it so much, when suspects lawyer up. Mikey is evil incarnate wearing human skin, but a few minutes with a lawyer prevented him from saying anything incriminating in the process of being grilled by cops for over 3 hours. If there is a truly necessary evil, lawyers are it.
@Super Freddy he better be because 1. Heās getting paid millions of dollars 2. Iām 40 and only 5 ft. 8. Iām not a Quarterback and really neither is Mitch the B;tch!
This is not a ātechniqueā. Itās just a thing this guy does. Heās not some mastermind. Heās just a bulldozer that keeps plowing into you until you break. This isnāt psychology. Itās basic bully tactics. It works and god bless him for doing it, but letās not pretend this cop is Einstein.
@Dustin McCoy it is used to make suspect tired, and it is harder to think lies while somebody is chatering all the time. After you get tiered and pissed of you will start talking, and anything you say truth or false can be used against you in court. Rambeling techique works amazing, but needs to be paired with other stuff if you get tiered af listeningg rambling for few hours, some stuff like good cop and bad cop and other tricks start working, because you cant keep fokus so long, also some stuff that is repited bunch of times people tend to start belive, also chatering is used as mabipulating suspect in to some kind of comfession. First cop was chatering tp soften the suspect so Jim's performenc woud leave bigger impackt, also after chattering, silence can be more effective and so on. And chattering in this video works great suspect is tiered and fokused on crime and jail, and not on making lies, and his anexity and paranoia are growing.
divawendy in the video JCS literally said this rambling was a tactic used to break down a suspect and not let them disassociate from the situation to make them feel better or come up with a lie fast enough. Itās to mentally exhaust the suspect and break down their defenses
Omg, thanks for this comment. I only wasted 30 minutes listening to this dude talk non-stop. I was fortunate enough to see your comment and know I can skip the next 30!
yeah this is definitely JCS's worst video. what was the point of it? there was barely any criminal psychology in it, just some guy shivering for an hour.
Not as dynamic as some other interrogations, but JCS does say in the video that heās employing a tactic to mentally exhaust Michael making it easier to negotiate information out of him
@Das_Bass Yeah, because the cops' incentive is to get a confession, not the truth. How about simply not allowing police to talk to suspects at all, especially not without a lawyer present?
it's to get him to talk. the evidence against him is strong. now it's a case of how many victims....is he a serial killer, etc. talking will get him a chance to be paroled.
it's canada. if he talks he will be out in 25 years. he's still young. if he doesn't talk he dies in prison.
39:04 he's not playing games. keeping his mouth shut means no chance of parole. they have the cctv, the murder weapon, his dna, etc. they just want him to talk for risk assessment purposes. is he responsible for other crimes?
@D P what were you watching for anyway then? Interrogations involve alot of talking. If you wanted to watch something less boring, Dora the explorer is on youtube for free.
@parametalhead it actually is. What is your experience if you dont mind me asking? It doesnt effect my life in any shape or form but im curious as how you could be so sure. What is your experience with being an interrogator? This you also clearly dont have to answer. I just find your comment funny and id like you to elaborate.
@Mon ica There is a question mark at the end of that sentence. It is a proposal of how I think things should be, not a declaration of how things are at the moment.
In other words, my idea is that it would be better to prevent police from talking to suspects without a lawyer present defending the suspect. I know it is not the case at the moment, but I think it would lead to better outcomes both regarding the innocent, the guilty and justice in general.
@Killian Maladath I apologize for its a biased opinion. Working on certain things, I dont and cant tolerate a guilty person. I understand legally that is their right but I like when they dont exercise it and give us amazing content like this..
@Mon ica A person is found guilty in court, not by cops. And this content is an example of someone talking to a lawyer and then clamming up completely. The cops got exactly zero useful information out of him.
@Dustin McCoy I agree. ItĀ“s easy to see why this so-called "interrogator" failed to make rafferty crack and admit his guilt - which was the main purpose of the interrogation.
@Bronanza......If that officer had been interrogating me, I would have screamed; I did it, I did it and anything else you want me to confess to....Please let me sign the papers and then execute me.....Just shut up, please!
@dragorn......If this had happened in Florida or Texas, he wouldn't have had to worry about how many years he would have to serve before being eligible for parole.....It would have been death and the only question would have been; would it be the conventional death row line or the express row straight to the needle!.....I vote express!!
@Jack I think it pisses him off so much because of what the little girl went through. To act like a crying baby, while the girl you killed probably cried and begged for help..yeah it makes me mad too
Honestly, Iām kind of relishing his suffering & how pathetic he is. He felt like a big man when he was brutalizing a little girl, but in the presence of actual men, his true colors are revealed. At his core, he is lower than an insect.
i know he's dealt with these kind of cases lots before, but damn it must feel so disgusting saying all that understanding and empathetic stuff to a predator, child rapist and child murderer. i'd feel sick to my stomach having to utter that stuff from my own mouth, he's very strong willed to be able to do that and act calm/sympathetic for so long
Id imagine enjoying the shit out of pretending to care, knowingly manipulating a perpetrator to walk into their own demise would feel so satisfying. One less monster free by any means necessary. When i was done and did what i did, id just smile and look them in the eyes, and they'd know from the twinkle in my eye, "i got you".
I could see him slightly enjoying it. The concept of breaking a man and making sure heās locked up for the rest of his life. I could see him giving a Light Yagami smirk
@herc pow yeah I can totally understand enjoying that aspect of pretending to care. It's just having those words themselves actually leave my mouth that I wouldn't be able to handle,, like saying shit that downplays the victim's death or worse. Bc yeah I wouldn't mean any of that stuff being said, but just hearing it come out of my own mouth would wreck me I think. Idk maybe I'm weak lmao
This is a psychology tactic to get the perp to talk more. Besides that the analyst obviously understands the psychology of these types of criminals and knows how to compartmentalize . You canāt work in that field if you are too soft hearted
@āŖ Artsy Ebony Rose āŖ Like woman are more emotional & Iām just thinking I couldnāt imagine myself sitting so close to a sick perv without just losing it. I know woman interrogate people but in cases so gruesome (or worse) never have I seen a woman in there. I hope yāall understand where Iām coming from Iām not saying woman canāt, Iām saying Iāve never seen a case where they have. (Dealing with a child)
@Wabbaās Abode ah i see what you're saying, sorry for jumping the gun there lmao. i've seen some women in that position before so in my eyes it doesn't make a difference bc they can be just as harsh as a man. i personally think it varies from person to person rather from man to woman. bc there are plenty of women who aren't emotional, and plenty of men who are. but i totally get where you're coming from
@Wabbaās Abode if you watch the chris watts videos there was a woman who was there from the second part of the interrogation & got pretty far with him with the technique of being āempathicā
He HAD to have done a couple of lines before walking into the room, thereās no way he has the energy or mental capacity to talk like this for so long
"Ok you ready Cocaine-Caffeine-Chris?" Chris does a thick line of coffee grounds and cocaine that stretches from one end of a table to the other and stands up nonchalantly "You know it."
Ever since I saw your āwhat pretending to be crazy looks likeā video, Iāve been hooked. Youāre a great narrator and you do an amazing job talking about HOW the detectives manage these interrogations. I also genuinely enjoy you throwing aggressive shade at the people who deserve no less. These officers are so good at their jobs, as are you at making, editing, and narrating these videos. Thank you for taking your time to make these. I am not a student anymore, but there was nothing that intrigued me more than psychology. I even considered pursuing criminal psychology. For personal reasons, I donāt feel cut out for it. However, these videos help me learn without the pressure of a classroom. Thank you again for taking the time to make these
@Tarun Kumar it had to get taken down cos youtube deemed it ātoo violentā basically. sucks. it meant the jodi arias case which is my favorite. the way he dissed jodi is fuckin funny.
That was the video that got me into the genre as well, I donāt care for the gory details of the crimes especially ones involving children but I like the psychology involved, itās fascinating.
@G M Yes, I watched a video the narrator did and he was like watching Jackqulin Phoenix get his award for the Joker. Night and day. I would love to meet the real team behind the script and editing.
@Mina Messer Youtube started taking the videos down because they were "too violent" the owner of the channel decided not to upload anymore since the videos kept getting taken down, there's a statement about it in the community tab of the channel.
I couldn't sit 3 seconds in the same room with this monster without subjecting him to overwhelming violence and divine fury. These interrogators are absolutely incredible in their patience and professionalism.
they usually score high on sociopathy scores that makes them care but still be detached, just like psychiatrist who dont cry with their depressive patients
Ryan A2022-03-04 18:07:48 (edited 2022-03-28 13:05:24 )
Devine fury huh? What has ever been accomplished by repaying evil witch evil?
Romans 12:19 King James Version 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
1 Peter 3:9 King James Version 9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
Unprofessional? Unprofessional?? Heās sitting across from a man who has already pretty much locked upāa man who kidnapped, raped, and murdered an 8 year old girlāand trying to put so much pressure on him that it will make him crack. To call what he did unprofessional is to have such contempt for the context of the situation as to be completely obtuse.
@David Warren It was Unprofessional to say "is that what you said to Tori before you killed her" just plain disrespectful to the victim. I would work on your reading comprehension if I were you.
@hi friede Damn dude, you are so wrong about Ajax. I disagree with him, but try to comprehend what you read before you assume the worst of someone. Maybe try to un-flag him or something? Remember "Everyone makes mistakes that's why we have erasers on pencils." -Good Cop Guy
@Ajax Lewis sometimes in criminal profiling a detective has to go off the cuff if traditional methods arenāt working. They may not be the most professional or socially acceptable way to speak, but sometimes that kind of break from the traditional detective mannerisms is what gets the suspect to talk
@Ajax Lewis Thats the interrogation tactic my man. Being more worried about "disrespecting the victim" as opposed to getting the most clear and decisive justice possible out of this case is a bit concerning to me. They'll use any tactics they need to have the best opportunity in court for him to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
@Gage Mason But it wasn't a tactic, it was a cheap shot that didn't aid the investigation at all. I think he just thought it sounded like a cool thing to say at the time. It was a sad attempt at trying to sound badass, but what he in fact did, was somewhat make light of the horrid situation to try and sound witty.
@Ajax Lewis No, it wasn't making light lmfao. And yes, it is part of the tactic. The dude inside serves to comfort him and almost act as if he is there to help, and then asshole comes in to put pressure and stress on him, and then when he leaves that tension is relieved and that change of tension throughout the interrogation coupled with the "good cop"s tactics are intended to make the subject more likely to crack. It's all a part of that back and forth.
@Gage Mason I'm aware of good cop, bad cop. The quip he made was nothing to do with tactics and was a poor attempt at wit at the expense of the victim's dignity.
Why is everyone so stupid in this comment section? I'm dealing with the nadir of dim! xD
@Ajax Lewis often times when you claim to be the smartest in the room, it isn't the case. Yes, it was an attempt at keeping up the "bad cop" persona. The man was the lead investigator on this case at an already esteemed institute in this field. Do you really think that they got there by tossing random "witty" quips at suspects? No. They know what they're doing and it's a common tactic to act exactly how they are acting, "witty" quips and all. You just want to be offended on the victims behalf, which I again find more disrespectful than the very thing you got offended by. You're more concerned with things you find offensive or disrespectful vs the justice against the individual. Stop trying to flaunt your intelligence over others over it as well, as I frankly find that more disrespectful to the victim as well.
@Ajax Lewis a lot of us understood your comment perfectly, not all of us are trying to be social justice warriors at every chance though. Stop trying to look virtuous to a bunch of randoms on YouTube when youāve probably made sly remarks similar to what the detective said as well.
@Gage Mason Are you serious with that response? What he said to the accused was on par with "yo mama". He said it for himself. That's quite obvious. It's like the most tasteless "that's what she said" joke (that can be funny) but this officer was just trying to satisfy himself with what he thought was a quick witted quip. I think he was probably quite amused with himself.
Stop attempting to sneak away from my point by pretending you think I feel I'm above everyone else. Focus on the topic.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and call you a troll so you look less stupid. (I'd take it and run, buddy. You'll save face that way)
@Lars Brinton The minute you use a term like "Social justice warrior" I immediately discredit you. Just as I would with people that say they're "woke".
@Lars Brinton And you're welcome to keep telling yourself that. If you come up with an original and relevant comment, I'll express genuine saltiness. But we both know you're not capable of that.
That being said, please try. I'm actually curious as to what you can deliver.
@Gage Mason Jesus Christ, you're acting like I'm simping xD I have respect for the work the officer carried out. But that comment he made was unnecessary and vulgar. I really hope you understand but I struggle to think how I can make it more simple for you.
@Gage Mason Well, I guess I gave you a free pass to exit the conversation, silly me. If you want to discuss your bizarre points further, I'm still here. Try not to bail out. I'm willing to talk even if your take on things is nonsense.
@420Noscopes Only Lol I am going to say this one more time. That comment had nothing to do with the interrogation. It was a personal quip. Do you understand that or are you acting like a fool on purpose?
@Ajax Lewis Yes I know I acting like a fool on purpose. Sorry. I wasn't in the best state of mind when I replied. I also tend to reply as if everyone is a bot and not a human. That being said after thinking about it, I don't think it really matters if it is important to interrogation technique. It seems possible that shoving the murder in their face when they don't expect it can catch them off guard momentarily. Bad cop is not supposed to be nice. He was the bad cop.
@Lars Brinton From what I've seen of your replies, I think you're a bit of a silly person, but do I determine you're a silly person in general? No, of course not. Therefore I won't judge you on this conversation.
@Lars Brinton Well of course. I have the decency to respond to you. It would be rude of me to ignore you.
Also, it doesn't take hours to write a comment. What's wrong with you that it takes you hours? I understand proof reading but it should only take a few minutes at best...
@Ajax Lewis He's making the dude crack. Being stone cold towards victims to receive a reaction is common practice, not unprofessional. He never insulted Tory, he used her unfortunate death in a cold way to induce a reaction that would bring a sense of relief and closure for Tori's parents.
@Ajax Lewis Iād be willing to argue that what this guy did to that poor little girl is far more disrespectful to her than a detective stating the reality of said situation. Just saying likeā¦ š¤·āāļø
@hi friede Bizarre response. I donāt agree with that person, but to conclude that they must āhave empathy for the accusedā and are a āpotential predatorā is utterly unreasonable and insane. Not to mention how baffling it is that you think reporting them would even do anything when they havenāt even broken any rules.
@Franc Lipovnik they are fighting for a confession. Even with video tapes, the best evidence is of they confess themselves. I saw another video where the woman didn't confess to attempt of assassination via hitman and she only got 16 years in prison whole she should have gotten much more. So yeah best piece of evidence is confession
back to the facts, i'm "the man", and i know that and the fbi forensic lab will simply show that the jury knows which row you'll be rowing and they're certainly not showing any signs that they are going to let the grim reaper do all the mowing there's no earthly way of knowing how many volts will be flowing or what color your eyes will be glowing Yes! the detective is all knowing and the defense certainly isn't showing any sign that they are going to stop the switch from throwing - Roald Dahl
His gf McClintick is even worse - she knew exactly that Tori wouldn't get into a car with a male stranger (after all, it's "bad men" who hurt little kids, isn't that what our parents told us?!). How a woman could do what she did is completely beyond me.
@ź§WupperElfeź§ seriously. she weaponed her womanhood to make that little girl feel safe so she could hand her off to that depraved animal. itās extremely upsetting
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Jonathan Ingram2021-12-06 14:37:02 (edited 2021-12-06 14:37:53 )
You should probably avoid watching this if it's shocking to you. Personally I don't get involved emotionally at all, I just like to see how detective works and how criminals lies.
@Visassess and siting in jail isn't fair to the people who died at the same hands. If the person he kills can't eat a warm meal or sleep or anything again cuz there dead than the killer shouldn't b allowed warm food or anything it should be a dark cell with no food or a toilet. It's not fair the people die but the killers can still live jail cell or not
I find it absolutely absurd that the detective, Jim Smyth, is so incredibly talented he's appeared in multiple JCS videos now. Being able to sit and talk with these monsters without breaking even once is insane. Hats off to him, the man is incredible
I cannot stand when people act all āboohoo woe is meā during the initial questioning. Like waaah Iām so cold and Iām so hungry :( like bro you did the unspeakable to a freaking 8 year old.
Jake Glenn Empathy is not reserved for those who do harm to children. That is my view and it will never change. Child abusers, murderers and rapists are sub human and are not getting an ounce of empathy from me.
C K2020-09-29 20:17:40 (edited 2020-09-29 20:17:51 )
Talimorph I think itās not black and white as most child abusers were abused as children. However, when youāre above 20 and you plan to kidnap and murder weāve crossed a line and empathy is definitely only there in small doses.
@Jessy Julie oh Hell yea I'm an addict and trust me that shit is absolute Hell. That makes me feel a bit warm and fuzzy knowing he's at least suffering in that aspects.
@C K it is black and White Idgaf if a chomo was molested as a kid it holds absolutely no relevance. Even if he was raped as a child he most certainly wasn't killed...like how he murdered that child. Whats the excuse for that then....
@The Texas Tickler thereās no excuse. All it means is we can learn not to treat our own kids and other children this way. Empathetically understand, and STOP THE CYCLE. Being angry and obsessive solves nothing. Stop the cycle of abuse and people donāt grow up to abuse. It does NOT excuse their behaviour, it merely explains it and is a WARNING to the rest of us how easily our minds can be affected by our upbringing and environment as a growing child and teenager.
Children who were abused can grow up to be abused. No child who was loved and treated with respect grows up to abuse. What does this teach us? hurt people, hurt people Learn from these kinds of people who cope with their emotions (or lack there of) by lashing out on others who did nothing wrong. Remember to be kind to everyone you meet. Especially kids and parents. Be kind and compassionate to your own kids so they donāt grow up to react to situations in their lives with violence or the want to over power another. These behaviours are learned when kids are abused, over powered or neglected. Stop the cycle by being critical and self aware while watching these types of interviews. Be more than just your emotions while watching and imagine how we can fix these problems before they arise. We canāt fix the past. We can only be present during our lives and be careful to put positive vibes into the world. Letās all work with one another and continue to raise healthy adults. Learn from these types of people and their childhoods. Do not repeat.
Put these people in places they canāt hurt another, rehab the very few with strict therapy/teachings and stop the cycles of abuse by having an honest conversation about how these types of people come to be. Be nice to children!
Itās very seldom random psychopathy. This douche obviously was neglected as a kid and decided to cope by horrifically taking advantage of women, eventually Terri who was moved around in group homes as a kid therefore an easy target. Together, they preyed on an even easier target. Disgusting people who never should be allowed out. Doesnāt mean we shouldnāt learn how they got where they are.
As parents and members of a community with kids and teenagers, we can influence positivity. Remember to be present and be kind.
My heart goes out to all the unnecessary victims (including myself) of the cycle of childhood mental, sexual, physical and emotional abuse. RIP to all those who didnāt survive. I wish healing for everyone who struggled through their childhood. Peace and love. RIP TO TORI. So unnecessary. š„ŗš
Iām giving my babies long hugs tonight and respectfully reminding them how to talk about and through their emotions. Love is the only answer when hate like this arises. RIP Victoria Elizabeth Marie Staffordš
@celery. i agree. someone may say how caseys lawyer is a monster for letting her get away but thats his job and heās fantastic at it. (no one beats juan tho)š
It's difficult, but if we don't do it for everyone even the worst most disgusting criminals, then we risk slipping into a system where someone with a small infraction/wrongfully accused/etc doesn't get the justice and decency they deserve.
public defenders donāt have much room to refuse, in private practice you have more room, if youāre with a firm and assigned a case it might be harder to back out. also once youāre on a case you have to ask the judge permission to back out, which many will refuse unless itās at the very beginning of case or something. thereās layers to it tbh. for the most part though, itās less lawyers choosing clients, more clients choosing lawyers.
Holy shit. When that composite sketch came up I was like wtf how drunk was the person who drew this. 10 seconds later I was like wtf that's one accurate drawing.
They look weird because they try to exaggerate some prominent feature of the face a little bit. We don't usually remeber the whole face clearly, but we do always remember those specific features, so the sketches use that to their advantage
@Irene N Honestly its so wack that we decided that "hey you remember that guy who ran past you and took your phone?" "Nah not really." "Better draw him from memory" "Bro even better ill tell someone what they look like and THEY can draw him" "Its gonna look like shit right" "Everytime man"
( People always assume the worst before they learn the facts ) literally
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Scott W2022-01-10 15:46:20 (edited 2022-01-15 15:14:07 )
I'm glad you explained the detective's "rambling". It was breaking down MY psychological stamina! Him being so close to Mike's personal space, talking and talking and talking...I would have confessed to anything to get him to just stop talking!
Iāve watched her interrogation (his girlfriend who was the accomplice) and Tori the precious little girl kept calling out for her while he was assaulting her saying āTT please make him stop, it hurts!ā Man hearing her recall that was bone chilling and so saddening at the same time.. both are responsible for her assault and death thereās no doubt about that
As a father of 3, it goes without saying that this pathetic excuse for a human deserves a fate far worse than what he will receive. Honestly, give him to Tori's father. Let him inflict the justice he deems necessary.
You sound like a great father, Mark. I wish I had someone like you with protection/ action instincts like that. Keep your children close and love them with all you got, they'll never forget that ā¤
Scott W2022-01-15 15:41:29 (edited 2022-01-15 16:14:54 )
My husband and I took in a young man (he was 24 at the time) who we had met, who seemed to be having problems getting on his feet - his roommates had kicked him out, his family disowned him, he had no job and nowhere to go...we thought we were helping this poor kid. A year later, he ended up in a similar situation to Rafferty here. Thinking back to when he was with us and I was acting as a father figure, when I would catch him doing something HORRIBLE, he would cower up in a fetal position, cry and sniffle just like this. I'm a musician, not some police interrogator, and have never had children, so I had no idea how to handle it. I had all the facts and proof, but he just clammed up when I called him out on his lies... Fortunately he is out of our lives, but not til after we had to deal with the Feds because of some illegal "stuff" he was doing while we were sheltering him. I started watching these videos sort of as a way to deal with the PTSD of that whole situation, but I feel like I'm also learning a lot about how to deal with people's lies a lot better. (Obviously, my husband and I agreed not ever again to take in people we barely knew...this was a hard way to learn that lesson!) Some of you are likely thinking I shouldn't have put all that out there, but honestly I am struggling with the memories and figure dealing with it out loud instead of secretly and quietly is probably the better course. Thanks for listening.
I wish I met kind people like you in real life. I'm a woman in a similar situation to this guy but I agree, most people you have to watch out for. I've tried to help people who I seemed less fortunate than me and it has gotten me used anspd abused
Scott, I watch these videos to get wiser also. But from the flip-side of your situation. Two life- long friends from childhood, who trusted and thought I knew well, recently had lied, manipulated me and ended up ripping me off for thousands of dollars. Two separate people in two separate ways. So even the people you think you know well can do this to you too. Good luck. And forgive yourself first for falling for it, for being fooled so badly by these sociopathic-type people.
@Janet Douglas Janet...I feel for ya. It's heart breaking š š¢ that "best" friends for so many yrs would do that! ??!!! MY "SO-CALLED BEST FRIEND FOR 22YRS! BROKE MY HEART & FRIENDSHIP ALSO. I ONLY HOPE..ONE DAY? 1 DAY š¤ that they get a heart & hve sme kind of remorse!! I dnt trust anyone anymore! Sad š . Stay sfe . All the best & keep ur head up high! WE R GOOD PEOPLE š š·šØš¦
don't give up on trying to help others just because of one nasty situation. Look at it this way, maybe the next guy you shelter goes on to be an amazing detective that solves a hundred cases
My heart' truely breaks for you both! From what started of as good intentions spiralled into horrific outcome. We have to be on guard even with people who appear vulnerable. Same vice versa for those who reach out to help only to pull you further down. Thank you for telling your story.
Unfortunately sociopaths and psychopaths are excellent at seeking out good, giving (and vulnerable/naive) people ... to PREY on. It is an unfortunate risk that comes with being a good and trusting person. You're doing the right thing to educate yourself. :-) Good luck in you recovery
@Janet Douglas Yes... as some people find out (some to never tell the tale) the MOST dangerous psychopath/sociopath is the one that you know very well!!! Think about it!
Having empathy like you do isn't bad. You must strike a balance with informed, decisive action against bad situations you recognize. That's the way to not get punished for being a good person. Bad people are generally pretty transparent if you learn their particular tells, and I think that's what you've been focusing on, but what do you do then? You had all the info, you had proof, but then what? That's the real question you must answer. How do you protect yourself while also being a caring, generous human being who would offer shelter to another human being. It's a beautiful thing, not to be discarded, and I fear you're trying to discard it. You don't. You have a right to protect yourself, however.
A friend of mine (68 years old by now) also sheltered a common friend of ours (he is in his 20s) for almost a year. He helped him get on his feet and now that young boy became a hotel manager. Same friend (68) also sheltered another and got robbed in the end. World has good as she has evil within. Don't lose hope and don't be so naive either.
You and your husband sound like such kind-hearted and helpful people. It's horrible that amazing people like you have their kindness taken advantage of. I really hope you both have been doing well since this comment. š
Wow, that's so amazing of you guys, I admire you, not many people would do what you did. How sad that the kindest, most selfless people in the world are the ones who get taken advantage of :( It's also sad that now you're less likely to do something kind for others because of what happened. Things like this make me lose faith in humanity. Thanks for sharing your story and I hope you guys are doing better now! Just know that most of us appreciate people like you!
I listened, I understood, and I met a monster personally face to face in my childhood I personally use the same thing to sort of cope with my traumas as well you are not alone and I can see how what happened to you could definitely be traumatic congratulations for coping in a healthy manner you doing good keep moving
As someone whoās been homeless and had a severe drug habit itās people like you who restore my faith in humanity. Itās a shame that someone did something so traumatizing to take that away from you, but I can totally understand and can only imagine. I wish you all the peace in the world.
Thank you for being a kind person. It isn't fair that that happened to you. I hope you can keep your head up and still see the positive stuff in the world <33 stay safe friend
@S T He wasn't a complete stranger. My spouse and I had known him from years ago, had spent time with him at social gatherings over several years. He seemed like just a normal guy who was occasionally down on his luck and needed a bit of help.
From a towering monster to a mousy little boy who actually thinks he can lie his way out of this heinous crime. I donāt see shame. I see self pity and denial.
Maybe I have a different perspective on prison sentences because of the American justice system, but I feel like 25 years is absolutely nothing for a crime like that. I'm always shocked when I see particularly brutal crimes being met with such light sentences in other countries, or at least what I perceive to be light sentences. I feel like in my state, it's entirely possible that these people could have received life in prison or even the death penalty. Maybe it's all just desensitized to us.
@Callahan sure, but even within American prisons you have protective custody for child molesters. I just feel like a life sentence for a crime like that is more realistic considering the circumstances.
He got a life sentence. Heās eligible for parole after 25 years, but his crimes were so violent they will never let him back out. Heās spending the rest of his life in prison
@Verbal Kint Sagawa never served jail time, but did 4 years in a psychological institute. He's been out for probably over 40 years now and he's yet to harm another person. He's a vile man, yes, but his sentence has nothing to do with this case.
I agree with you. Sadly our world is filled with murderers and rapists and their is not enough space to keep them. Even more sadly; our tax money is paying to keep the trash alive in prison. Some countries even give the trash education, housing and food with OUR tax money. It makes me sick.
Rewatching this one I really feel for the lawyer at 56:31. One thought that always crosses my mind when watching this kind of videos is how can someone defend such human garbage. It must be horrible to have to grind for so many years to work in the thing you love to then have to put yourself on the side of such trash, so they sometimes don't get the death penalty they deserve
Death penalty puts them out of their suffering, id rather have them live to regret their actions. And lawyers aren't there to get them out of it, but to get them a fair trial. They're fulfilling a need for society as a whole, not criminals.
@V depends on the country. Some counties prisons are like college dorms for example that Norwegian mass shooter Andres Breivik is imprisoned in a nice ass room with all the creature comforts like tv, video games, and more even complaining about how he isnāt given more selections of video games. But in other countries like the US and Mexico the prisons are brutal with a lot of gang violence and inmates always having to watch over their back and having to know prison politics or theyāll get killed.
When I was a little kid I was waking down a Main Street from the bus stop on my way home with one of my friends (he was a skinny black boy I was thicker and mixed we were in 6th grade) and a guy pulled up slowly on us and was asking if weāve seen a puppy running around and we were interested but said no. He was insistent on showing us a photo of his dog and kept trying to get us to get closer to the car. Keep in mind the guy talking to us was in the passenger seat and the door was open he had the door like open and talking to us eventually I kind of caught on to what was going on with the puppy trick and I grabbed my friends hand and ran never looked back. One of the scariest moments of my childhood
A similar thing happened to my mother. She was a quiet kid and same thing - a van pulled up with a sicko asking if she wanted some candy. Luckily her cousin was just behind her so he grabbed my mom and sprinted home. These sickos deserve worse than the death penalty. They deserve to have exactly what they do to people done to them by people 10x their size and 10x as vicious.
@Chyna You're right, it didn't click the first time i read the comment because it sounded like she used an opportunity to tell everyone she's mixed lmao
the poor girls last moments were so tragic for her, my heart aches for her and her family, this man is so disgusting and this case is only an hour away from me and really makes me wonder how many of these sickos are just wandering around the streets.
Thank you JCS this is educational for me in as much as horrifying to hear the accounts of the crimes being committed. Been watching your videos for hours. Made me think to study behavioural science and forensic psychology or something
I have no idea how the detectives have not only the stomach but also the composure to do their jobs so well. When ābad copā went into detail about dna and the scene of the crime I physically felt sick. I wish they could have broken him, I wanted to see him destroyed. I hope what they say about the fate of child molesters in prison is true and then some. I hope he gets broken into infinite little pieces
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North BASE UK2022-01-13 00:06:11 (edited 2022-01-13 00:07:23 )
My partner has 4 children from a previous relationship, the 2 youngest are girls, one the same age as Tori and I dote on them. How these people...if we can call them human...can commit such vicious and heinous acts to a child (or anyone) for a fleeting moment of sexual gratification is beyond my belief. I don't even want to begin to imagine the horror that poor little girl endured at the hands of these beasts. I hope this man and woman suffer for the rest of their lives and beyond.
Amazing channel. Please make more videos such as this one. Unfortunately it will be very easy to find another case, but at least weāre all enjoy to see those inhuman people getting caught !!!
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Que T2022-01-13 02:30:26 (edited 2022-01-13 02:34:03 )
His behavior is so frustrating to watch during this interrogation. š¤ I'm sure he has come across fellow monsters while in prison. His lies will not, has not, and are not convincing them as they take from him whatever he may not want them to have. I pray he thinks of Tori every second, minute, hour, day, week, month and year he is in prison. For her parents and family will be(forever thinking of Tori) due to the sentence that he selfishly and with a victim attitude forced upon them. The family has my thoughts & prayers š ā¤
My heart literally breaks for Tori and her family š. I have a small person close to me just like Tori and if something happened to her i wouldnāt know what to do with myself š¢
Ommmggg!! My heart broke and sank at the same time at @5:34 to @5:41. I don't wanna think about poor Tori's last moments. She probably know what's gonna happen and she only want someone to save her. I can't imagine the fear and despair in her eyes when she saw the woman leave her with him. May you rest in peace, Tori. Heaven has a lot of dogs waiting for you, my darling.
This is absolute class of interrogation tactics shown by these two cops - On the other-side of the spectrum is the masterclass of how not to do it in the JCS vid of the kid who looked like a grudge ghost for the whole interrogation.
When he told him that he was in there for tori making him squirm man gained 1000 times respect from me he was showing that man what it feels like if only we could do more
Is chemical castration an acceptable punishment? Tory will never have a life again. No child should die like this. So sadā¦ great video. I love the fact that JCS brings in an unbiased perspective to explain the charges. It would be difficult to not show my feelings on this if it were me making this video.
Sometimes itās hard to be interested in these investigations because learning what happens to the victim and how evil these people are and the disgusting things they do, it makes me sick to think about it and makes it hard to trust people
Pedophiles and rapists deserve cruel deaths like no other. If only the law made it so that they get the death/punishment they inflicted on their victims reciprocated back to them.
Funny thing is this is not happening from people who also defend children having their own right to behave like what they want (gender and such).. who knows what else they're going to support in the future (maybe child-willing-to-do what they want with their bodies?). Well make up your own mind for that. Let's praise progressivism.
yeah, if only retributional justice was a thing. It's not like we have abandoned an "eye for an eye" system because it harms more than it does good. In my mind, people who can think in cold blood that someone deserves suffering, deserve same suffering. Why would you want the murderer and rapist to suffer but not to change ways or at least realize the extent of their transgressions and try to do so? You can't have both, inflicted cruelty rarely go hand in hand with changing ways
As for them āchanging ways?ā Do you think a person like that of such wicked nature could āchange?ā You couldnāt convince me, even if he became a reformed Christian man in prison, it would not undo his true nature. He will always be a abominable human being.
what this isnāt: a traffic ticket or a to-do list from your girlfriend
what this is: reality
lmao I love this investigator, he helped me get through this sick fuckās interview and the horrific details of poor angel toriās last moments on this earth. I literally have to only focus on the forensic psychology of this interview or have to turn it off altogether as it has me SOBBING. Such a sick world we live in.
One simple psychological obversation ," if Mike was truly innocent he would've contested his guilt vehemently ! Just think how an innocent person would find this interrogation as outrageous ! You would defend your innocence with vigor !
Is there more complete footage of the interrogation of Terry Lynn Mcclintock to be found? I am curious as to how she breaks and what her motivation was to co-operate with this Michael.
This story made national headlines in Canada and was a top story for many months. The whole situation was messed up.
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J. D. Simpson2022-01-15 21:31:01 (edited 2022-01-15 21:31:24 )
This guy knows that if he's in acute physical withdraw his brain is operating at a major handicap. He knows he has literally no chance at going toe to toe with the investigator. He probably can't even truly comprehend what the interrogator is saying.
What a disgusting human. This broke my heart. What I never really understand though is why they have them sit in the interrogation room for so long if they already stated they arenāt talking? Whatās the reasoning for that
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v s2022-01-12 23:50:31 (edited 2022-01-13 00:16:21 )
The detective's strategy clearly failed and in MYHO it just reinforce the one of the suspect giving him the time and space to set in motion the dynamic of his defence mecanism . The suspect is more assertiv at the end than at the begining. He was first communicating threw his behaviour at the end he, clearly, shut it down, verbaly. A strategy of engagement with the emotions of the suspect will have had more chance to bring result. What does the suspect need at the begining ? what does the suspect has to gain from the detectiv's bargain, his credibility ? seriously ? Help him to deal with his self image, it's shattered and he his battling to restaure one. Following that line will give ways to adress the reality of the fact The suspect is in a conflict of reality, helping him to solve it, that's his gain; in order to do that, he'll have to expose the reality of his act, that's the gain for the detectiv.
I just canāt stand this. Itās so unbearably hard to understand. Just heartbroken for that sweet little girl. My heart is hardened toward that woman who took a child by the hand and lead her to such a cruel fate.
Do you before you even said this guyās credentials his first two sentences are already knew this was going to be the best interview I havenāt even watch it yet and Iām making this comment because I already know this guy should work at every police department ever everywhere lots more crimes would get solved
Iām surprised the lady, Terry? Was given a life sentence as well.
Although I suppose with r*pe and/or murder cases, those involved must be shown no mercy regardless of gender. Particularly if their degree of involvement was high.
25 years got to ask myself? Wtf never ever ever to see the light of day. The cop is really good at his job. He is clearly pissed at dealing with yet a other Bastard. He is nothing else. Poor baby girl. Poor mum and family šŖ and friends š¢ So heartbroken š
he wont. Canada is ridiculous hes already been moved from maximum to medium security and they transffered his grilfriend out of prison into an "indeginous healing lodge" oh and they both will eventually be eliglble for parole
This was one of the most horrifying videos I've watched on this channel, but what was wrong with the reporter at the end of the video? was she cold or something?
I could never be a detective, I wouldnāt even be able to stand in front of them nevertheless calmly say āyouāre not a monsterā knowing fully well that thing is more than that
I donāt think thereās a heaven, but that doesnāt mean I donāt like to picture Tori there. And I donāt think thereās a hell, but that doesnāt mean I donāt hope Michael experiences a fraction of the horror he put that little girl through in the last day of her lifeā¦
I have watched this lot! I think I Ike it so much because he is punishing this creep mentally and I like it. My favorite part is when he almost pukes, he know he is fucked ā¦ and then the cop comes in after and really adds the icing . I like how Jcs does it too.
I do wonder what his childhood was like, is he just repeating the cycle? Was he abused as a child? I think he probably witnessed some bad sh!t, no excuses!! Just saying.
27:30 how many times is he going to tell him "i don't think you're a monster, i think it got out of hand" i feel like repeating this over and over is ineffective. Maybe i'm wrong.
Seems that whenever the police get CCTV footage it's always bad video, out of focus, grainy. What is the point ? Don't you think the officer droning on and on makes it easier for the suspect to just tune him out? I mean he is literally rambling, though you say its on purpose. Silence can be very intimidating too as other interviews have shown.
Sorry can't help lol even though it's just heartbreaking š Just had to say the line . I KNOW YOU'RE UPSET YOU HAVEN'T EATEN YOUR DOUNUT!!!!! This cop is Fabulous. His boss need to let him know!!!!!
25 years!! Iād request he be released the next day with his details out online and the exact time he walks out the jail!! Iād serve time for this stain
blanket, tea, doughnut - I understand the approach, but I do not want to see him comforted That little girl didn't have any comfort in her final moments. :' (
I would not want to play that behavioral science person in poker. Very glad it was him that was interrogating.... That sick P3do needs put behind bars or put down...
Narration is spot on. These videos are well done, nothing worse than a narrator pausing the video every 5 seconds to talk š Narrator jumps in at just the right times, with relevant points for the audience. Very well done.
M O2020-01-14 03:25:03 (edited 2020-01-14 03:46:33 )
ā@Brax1982 As the title suggests, Jim is showcasing Micheal Rafferty exclusively. So naturally he gets more screen time than his accomplice. You're right in that Micheal wasn't the one who swung, but understand that part of an interrogator's job is to get people talking. That comment was meant to sting, whether in its accuracy or inaccuracy. His role in the murder wasn't known at the time until he was questioned as harshly as he was.
You know he was a big man when he was viciously attacking a 8 year old baby girl! Now he wants to be an 8 year old girl!! This is a sick world š filled with š· people š
KMFDM57 So fucking sick. It just turns my stomach to know that she willingly dragged a child to torture and death. Throw the key away! Lock them up forever!
"-a guy who when he abducts an 8-year-old girl, he's so turned on by it, that before he kills her he has to have sex with her. So if u ask me why I'm sitting in this room? I'm sitting in this room for tory." I got so moved by his words, an absolute gentlemen who deserves so much praise for his work.
Just makes my damn blood boil. I have a 9 year old daughter and hearing what these F***ing animals did to that sweet girl... Oof. It's enough to land me right there in jail too. All because she was being a good daughter and wanted to see a puppy! I hate that I have to teach my daughter about crap like this but I need her to be prepared. Awful world we live in sometimes.
@Josh Mattingly haha sometimes hahs this is everday life in your neighborhood in da hood in the city you better tell your daughter now before shes sixteen hoin the streets
@S0urc3C0de to be honest no living thing deserves this. but the reality of it is death row is gonna be alot worse to handle. your gonna have a week or so of knowing your gonna die to electricution or hanging, both timely deaths that take quiet the moment to feel through. your existence fades away before death, you dont matter anymore. thats it. nobody cares. the worst part about it is knowing you came here with purpose and the species your in simply works like all creatures, your out the gene pool.. and your existance is forgotten. thats the son of somebody, hes only 28, hes a son of a father and mother who realizes that this man ruined lives, then continued to destroy there familyy name.. hes gone and that means his family name is gone..his family will be forgotten.. nothing to pass down. only lord himself can make punishment worse
The AUDACITY of this creep to try and imply that Tori's parents were the ones who murdered her when he knows EXACTLY what happened to that little girl is utterly despicable. He makes my blood boil.
He was trying to play his hand off the fact that the media and public largely suspected the parents, especially her mother, in the weeks after her disappearance and before they caught these sickos.
@ lildcgang if you actually think a psychopath is looking for a ā reaction ā of disgust or anger at his perverted cowardice, from a stranger on YT you are COMPLETELY Ignorant about the nature of psychopathy! and what they are ā looking for ā...
Out of all the true crime stories Iāve heard, interrogations Iāve watched, this detective is hands down the most impressive and articulate. No one holds a candle to his level headed professionalism.
If he was innocent he would have been fucking furious in that interrogation room screaming and yelling at wtf was going on. Silence really spoke more than he ever could.
That is both true and not true. While yes, when you're innocent it pisses you off to be accused and you're expected to react to allegations with force, force met with force, at the same time being silent is also very good as well as it gives less to work with. A good detective knows to take a centimetre and turn it into miles on miles. So it really would be a balancing act
This interrogator might be the best I've seen yet. He's got all of the skills down, he doesn't let him deny it for even a half of a second before he says "you can try to cement yourself into that position" lol. I'm just sad that I'm out of videos to watch already. This channel is great, and yes the narrations help a lot in understanding these tactics and the strategies behind them.
Interesting how when the interrogator stops pretending, Rafferty also stops pretending. He stops crying and sniveling, his body language changes and he just sits there.
Lmfao shaking my head when the guy goes āthatās why pencils have erasersā talking about child murder. To say that without cracking is professionalism.
I want a whole episode on just this detectiveās interrogations, because he is definitely one of the best interrogators of all time. Truly an Oscar-winning performance.
He was all right. If you want to see the Goat of interrogators watch detective sergeant Jim Smyth breaking Colonel Russel Williams down. It's a brilliant show from the second they sit and talk. The guy is teaching other interrogators how to interrogate, he's a legend in the field and worked on huge cases such as this, Williams and I think he also worked on Paul Bernardo. Give it a try
@Ark Design yeah facts that russell williams interview is legendary, i think ive watched it through like 7-8 timesššeach time i spot something new that is so impressive that jim does that looks like second nature but takes so much experience
@Do Not Ban Me Please The guy was clearly being unresponsive and keeping to himself. How can you blame it on the interrogator for not letting him speakā¦ Did you even watch the video before you call other people dumb?
@Do Not Ban Me Please did you watch the video, the guy literally addressed why he speaks so fast and does not allow him to speak. Also, parts of this interrogation were cut. Maybe because he was questioned and was unresponsive therefore not important for a short documentary? The interrogator even stated he was not answering questions. Heās been in crime for 40 years, he knows what heās doing.
25:07 interrogator asks, unresponsive, then the interrogator keeps pressing. Just an example
I just can't wrap my head around this kind of thing. If I just let my mind wander into the details of that murder, killing an 8 year old with a hammer, I just feel sick and start getting angry and I just have to stop thinking about it. I honestly don't know how the detectives are able to do it.
Every time I watch one of these JCS videos I am absolutely blown away by the skills of the detectives. You've got to have some sort of natural talent to do what they do, I think. It's part psychologist, part actor, part manipulator. I imagine it's similar to the skillset a really good psychic would have. They can read people really well and adjust the conversation accordingly in order to get them to a particular conclusion. I did read a few of those John Douglas books when I was a teenager so I had some understanding of what their job was, but just seeing it on video is something else.
A friend of mine is a forensic photographer and scientist for a Police force here n Britain, they investigate and photograph crime scenes, they also do ārape kitsā, they have to encourage rape victims to provide DNA samples or they take swabs of intimate parts of their bodies in order to get the necessary evidence to convict these scumbags. I often question her dedication and cast iron fortitude, I donāt know how she can be up close and personal with this level of scumbag!
You essentially have to just numb yourself to what happened. I imagine that over the years, it gets easier to numb yourself to the depravity of people.
EBTwitts Itās difficult to explain, we have to be able to compartmentalize. Victims need to be approached in a calm and reassuring matter, they need to feel safe, especially if youāre going to ask them to recount an assault, or in my case, provide medical care which includes me touching them. If theyāre being approached by someone whoās emotional or angry, it could be triggering for them and make them shut down. With criminals, you canāt show them emotion because for them, it implies weakness and they will try to exploit and manipulate that. Iāve had to pretend to be caring and reassuring to many criminals, because it makes put down their guard, but secretly I was fantasizing about stabbing them with a scalpel. After, dealing with criminals or victims, we take a small break to gather ourselves, and continued doing our jobs. It doesnāt get any easier with time, so we learn to cope and find healthy outlets, but sadly, we all eventually end up with some form of ptsd.
Just be glad it bothers you so much. That's good.it means you could never do such a horrible thing. Nobody is perfect but I'm grateful for people like you that know when to say oh hell no. Feck that.
Self control is #1... has to be. The average person would beat the living hell out of this monster. I am amazed each time how detectives talk to criminals and maintain such composure.
professionalism, class, composure, something most normal peons don't have. besides, why bother smacking someone you KNOW is going to get it good in prison hm?
It's simple. Smacking the shit out of him does nothing. Making him confess through mentally bombarding and controlling him by being smart and manipulative lets him get what he deserves :)
Yeah very intelligent move. Every lawyer would have a field day with that. If a cop would do that during interrogation the suspect would walk free the same day and that is why we don't do that.
Same goes for all those child predator vigilante groups. Stop doing that. Nothing they do can be used in court and the predator can even sue you and is most likely to win the case.
@Lorella de Pisis No, he's not. In a primal sense, if someone harms someone else for no conceivable reason, then you have to assume they could be dangerous to you. It's a reasonable instinct to hate murderers and especially child murderers.
He deals with people like this every day it's in his job description he deals with the real fucked up cases, he's a specialist he's heard and seen it all more times than he can count. In all honesty my guy is probably completely numb to all of it and incredibly bored with life
On the topic of child molestation, always listen to a child who tells you that someone such as a family member or friend has touched them inappropriately. Children do not lie about this and you should be thankful they even told you to begin with because they may not understand it is wrong. Which brings up the fact that every parent needs to tell their children what right and wrong touching is. A lot of trauma could be prevented this way.
@cool dud I think it's more disgusting how when something isnt going your way, you think it's wrong. The reality is that in these types of cases, it is guilty until proven innocent, and this is in the best interest of the victims. Also women and nonbinary people can be abusers too, it's not just men. I have nothing against anyone, but I still stand by the law that protects the children. Courts are initiating processes that pinpoint if coaching from a parent happened.
@astrwolf Exactly! Also many methods have been surfacing that help provide the truth. I.e. polygraphs, coaching, psychological tactics, etc. They're not sending people to jail without any evidence or just the testimony of a child. It is still investigated upon. It's silly to think otherwise.
@astrwolf If the child believes what he/she is doing is innocent or not a lie, you will not find the tells that you would from someone who knows he/she is lying. This is not a difficult thing to accomplish. Children are extremely malleable, which is why parents are held mostly accountable for their development.
@s you clearly live in an alternate universe or are ignorant if you think ppl donāt go to jail without evidence. You also only have one level on understanding a childās mind and that is that they always tell the truth and are right.
@samra I know people go without evidence. I am stating how the system works for this type of work. I feel disgusted that you guys wouldnt believe a child. Believing a child isn't saying that the person they accused is a rapist or predator, but rather opens the possibility that they are in danger. If it was your child, would you like it if someone said "Oh it's a child let's not believe them?" Its not that hard to critically think why our legal system works like that. Also your insults dont make your point any better, substantial points and evidence do.
@cool dud being on the other end of this (not rape though) I can agree. My toxic ex manipulated my children to say I beat them. It was found out to be false, but it enforces the fact that children can be easily manipulated.
@s I personally wouldn't believe or disbelieve the child just on the basis of the accusation, that's stupid. You need to know more, what caused this? Is this a lie? If so, for what purpose? Who did this and do they have anything hinting to them doing this act? You can't trust anyone's word on face value, not even a child's. It's another piece of evidence, another piece of the puzzle. A jigsaw puzzle can't be completed with 1 blank piece.
Some kids DO lie about it. My older sister lied about it when my parents got divorced. She caused years of heart ache and BS for everyone in my family because she wanted attention. I know she lied about it, because it didn't add up AND she admitted as much about 10 years ago, when we were all adults. She admitted she lied about it and why she did, and apologized to my dad for it. Even though her BS cost him a relationship with his kids for 7 years that he missed out on, she's back to being his favorite. She always was. But yeah, kids DO lie about it. Usually not, though. I will always listen to my kids if something weird was going on. Hell, if my kids told me they saw a monster outside, I would believe that they saw SOMETHING scary, and check on it. I would never dismiss anything that scared, hurt, or upset any of my kids.
@samra exactly! If people were to believe a million lying kids to save 1 kid, how many other kids are going to go without a parent, because they got locked up or labeled as a sex offender. Just because some kid got bored and made up a story, or someone brainwashed the kid to believe and say certain things. Saving 1 kid that way, would very likely end up hurting way more, in the long run.
@cool dud Good! I hope you do! Sounds like you would be a great dad. I mean, you obviously know the value of logic and know the world isn't as easy as just black and white. I imagine if you had any kids, they would be a great contribution to society!
Note: I'm being sincere. Sorry if it came across as a bit sarcastic. I didn't mean to. I just wanted to make a point, in that I agree with you and support your view on it.
"Believe all children" carries the same tone as "believe all women." How about "believe people based on their own personal history of their credibility, not their age or their gender."
@Skirdus So you're putting the same motives as abusive women onto young, naive children. Also for the record I did not say to always believe them, I said always listen to them. Do not shut them down. I understand children might lie for attention, but they don't have the same motives as adult women who probably got with the man for their money or something like that. Children are therefore more trustworthy. Btw you don't have to carry that attitude, it's like you're already prepared for a fight instead of a debate. But you misread my comment and replied unnecessarily with your narrative. Listen and discern for yourself if they are manipulating or genuinely traumatized.
believing the child until the threat is assessed and eliminated (if theyve been coached to lie, you WILL find out. coaching is also abuse that NEEDS to be addressed.) is the best way. The wellbeing of the accused isnt the priority over the child's safety. period. many children become retraumatized when their parents dont want to accept what happened to them, or even continue giving the abuser access to the child. in cases involving children these accusations hold much more weight and cant be compared to the actions of women who falsely accuse. children dont have the understanding to maliciously accuse someone unless theres some form of psychological abuse (being coached, being exposed to sexual content, being manipulated or coerced in other ways)
@Calamity Chaela its a play based on the salem witch trials. some kids lie about stuff and get 25 people sentenced to death. i was just responding to the guy who said "kids never lie"
Oh, come on. Do you honestly think if the cop had come into the room all guns blazing he'd have got any info? No way. They use psychological tools to get what they want from the suspect. The cop is fully aware that he is sat in front of the lowest form of human life. But he can't let the suspect know what he actually thinks and feels. The inmates will give the suspect exactly what he deserves.
does the cop ever stop talking bc im about to skip this video 13 mins in and its all cop talking to the guy with no response from the criminal is literally the cop talking nonstop... ohhhh go to 25mins in if you want to hear another voice ...ahhhh i cant listen to just this 1 guys voice anymore. finding a new video.....now
His pathetic and cowardly act doesnāt do what he wants it to. It doesnāt gain sympathy and they know for a fact that heās done it so it just comes off as annoying and disgusting. Hope he got the same treatment he gave Tori in prison.
Make sure you are wearing a VERY tight police uniform and what not. Who knows, you might get 437 years in prison. Regardless, the detective will most likely talk about her unkempt lady parts.
@T_Fitz yeah me too. Criminal psychology on the people who do horrible and terrible things? Polite comments and positive energy. Light-hearted shows or anyone expressing an opinions? Slurs, threats, and cancer. This and Last Podcast on the Left have some of the nicest communities :)
HOW CAN ANYONE LISTEN TO THAT COP ..BIGHEADED ONLY TALKS ABOUT HIMSELF ..GO TO THE START LISTEN HOW MANY TIMES HE SAYS I I I MINE .I HAVE BEEN ...TORTURE listening to that cop
@Cody Schwabe I think she said that because her dad valued his possessions more than his daughter but sure let's go make fun of someone. He loved the Mercedes more than her and that's fucking sad.
@Jetty Bean He is not making light of the situation , rather he is simply making fun of these morons who commit horrible acts then act even more stupid during the interrogation.
and say you were 5 thousand percent sure that you had nothing to do with it, and that oh gee oh golly oh gosh it was so long ago I couldn't even remember
@Brian Mcelligott "Jennifer's Solution" is the title of the video, about the girl who set up her parents' murder and then tried to lie about it as the sole witness lol. if you go to JCS's video page, its the third one down from 7 months ago.
They never gave Jeff his butterfinger. They never layed a damn finger on his butterfinger. This was not my original comment but a comment I really enjoyedcredit to the original commenter
Mike is hungry and cold. Warm up some of that meaty substance found in the pipes and tell him its Kentucky Fried Chicken š. Oh, wait. Wrong channel.
@s h a d Ćø w b a n n e d actually that's not true, in America at least. In the states the investigators cannot take your DNA without your consent from you or anything including a coke can without a warrant from a judge. And when they get a warrant they'll just take it straight from your mouth with a swab so no need to take it from a used coke can. If they take it from a coke can or from you without consent or without a warrant they could risk having a judge throw the case out so they won't even risk it. Hollywood movies and television shows like CSI make people think cops can just grab your DNA from a cigarette butt and solve the case. It's not legal in real life. It may be different in Canada or other countries, but in the US it's illegal to do that.
Aww gosh geeze that was so long, that was a million years ago. I mean what's this about? That was so long ago now I don't even remember what she looked like.
Not that I blame you, but I wonder if everyone in this comment thread would be making jokes and laughing along had this been their little girl or younger sister. The world is a strange place. I suppose its just nature.
@Joe Varghese Geez hmmmm I dunno... Doesn't ring a bell at the moment... I saw the video a milion years ago geeezzz . I don't recall the name of it, sorry
I have to give it to Rafferty, he's a psychopath but did exactly what a suspect should do during an interrogation. Deny, deny, deny and let the lawyer handle it.
Rule of thumb, if they know you did it, and you know you did it, first things first request a polygraph test directed by the smartest person in the universe... and then proceed to lie.šššššš
Been on the channel for 6 months now , even followed him on the old channel where theres a video about Narcissistic personality disorder , I've watched all of the videos on this channel for like 10 time over each , and I still watch it and fall asleep to it , Kizzumes voice is so soothing...
Something about the detective mentioning how Tori was going to have a little party because her mom redecorated her room made it so much more disturbing like so innocent, you know?
I'm just amazed how he is able to keep a one-sided conversation going like that. It goes to show how different personality types can succeed at different professions. I could never do something like this.
I remember this case. I was 10 years old at the time. Because of this... awful, awful crime my parents made sure my sister and I had a secret word that we were to ask for should someone other than our parents/grandparents unexpectedly pick us up from school. I remember that a lot of my friends also had secret words after this, and there was an instance in which it prevented a girl from getting into a car with a man who claimed to know her parents. Such a sad case Iāll remember forever.
"That's why pencils have erasers. Because we all make mistakes" That's like something my mother would tell me after I bodge an exam paper. Not after murdering a child, lmao
@Dusty I remember an episode of The Shield, where the interrogator even insinuated he shared the same "interests" as the suspect, Dutch Wagenbach was a bit creepy though so it was sort of believable!
@Shannon Davidson 2 things. 1.) I never want to do this job. 2.) (As I've said) I know why he's doing it, I get the idea of making it feel less serious to draw out a confession. It doesn't change the fact that it feels out of place (and I'm not saying that to imply there's some better technique or some shit simply that it caught me off guard and feels strange)
The idea is that people have a tendency to only want to lie only a little bit, and the strategy is to draw that little bit out of them. For example, when people get caught for speeding, and an officer asks them if they knew how fast they were going, people will often lie, saying that they didn't know how fast they were going, but they will still paradoxically admit that they knew they were speeding. As if they didn't care about the ticket and only cared about what the officer felt about them
@Luke Hyde I honestly don't get why everyone is leaving this comment. I've explained before that it's not something I'd ever even want to do, I don't care for it as a job and wouldn't want to take it further than videos. Not only that but I understand why they're doing it but christ is someone not allowed to have a giggle when someone says silly shit like that. Christ you people
@Luke Hyde There are other and better ways to deal with creeps like rafferty than licking their asses like this so-called "interrogator" was doing. He was getting nowhere with rafferty and the interrogation was a complete failure. The sooner you realize this, the better.
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Lars Kullberg2021-07-08 23:31:17 (edited 2021-07-08 23:33:09 )
@Neill Coetzer I totally agree. This "interrogation" was a complete failure. And the interrogatorĀ“s spineless, brown-nose behavior certainly contributed to it.
@Neill Coetzer dude these people gotta be trolling at this point. A THIRD GUY left a comment saying basically the same thing. "ArE YoU a BeHaViORaL AnAlYsT!!?"
The pencil eraser thing seemed like the sort of thing you'd hear in a dark comedy rather than a real case where a psycho killed an 8 year old girl.
@Beardly 01 yeah right. Exactly my thoughts. They must be either trolling or an idiot to not see I'm mentioning it not from a psychological view but purely as an outsider. These people...
@Neill Coetzer welcome to YouTube comments where people analyse every word you say and then tell you why they think you are wrong for saying it. Lol. It caught me off guard too bro so I guess I'm not behaviour analyst material either. Just ignore all the tossers mate, not worth your time.
Neill Coetzer reminds me of that simpsons joke when they arrest an unarmed suspect and the officer's gun fires barely missing their head and he just says 'oooh whoopsi'
@Neill Coetzer I get what you're trying to say. I had to double back and listen to it again to be sure I heard correctly. It was so out of place, it would've been funny if this wasn't a serious crime.
Sir, a mistake's a mistake, no matter how insignificant it may be. Sometimes you fuck up an exam, other times you accidentally have someone stumble into your knife collection. Mistakes happen. Not that I would be speaking from experience.
That's exactly why he said it. To downplay the situation. Almost everything this detective said was geared towards downplaying the situation. That is to make the suspect feel more comfortable about opening up to the detective
@Neill Coetzer maybe he's using that to evoke feelings of when he may have had that said to jim before by another parent or authority figure, quite snart actually.
The more twisted the perps the more theyāll try to drag people down in the mud with their antics. But i must admit iād never for the life of me be able to keep my nerves facing that kind of monster.
Sickening. They should have a small island for these grotesque scumbags where they're hunted and ended. A slow, methodically drawn out hunt over a few weeks. The terror that poor little girl must have felt..........unimaginable. And the pain her family felt š šŖ
One of the hardest things about interrogating these animals aside from having to play nice to get the information must be simply resisting the temptation to beat them to a pulp.
@zyqx I dont think people get a job in criminology to beat people up. There are other professions for that: ufc fighter, bouncer at a titty bar. I dont know
@Lizzifer I'm a criminologist in a small town in Colorado. Our version of 'beating them to a pulp' is when the scientific method is executed correctly. We catch a lot of bad people. All day. Everyday. We use science to do so. That is very satisfying.
@Patrick O'Donnell Thank-you for everything that you do. I can't show my level of gratitude well enough for people like you. Over 25 years ago I was molested and I still want to harm my attacker. I thank God everyday that I didn't kill the individual that molested me when I think about my wife and kids, but I still fear what I would do, if I was ever put face to face with that soulless garbage again. I hate that I cannot place that part of the past to rest permanently. Thank you again for doing this line of work.
@Matthew Wilson it means a lot to me that'd youd say that. I too was a victim of sexual assault. IM NOT VICTIM ANYMORE. I believe it isnt me that catches the bad guys/gals but the applicaation of the scientific method that does it. The facts are there, my job is to interpret the already established facts. Scientific literacy is so important. I would encourage anyone, everyone to understand the scientific method and also study brasilian jujitsu. BJJ saves more lives and prevents more crimes than anything. More than anything! MORE THAN ANYTHING!! But also, the scientic method.
@Patrick O'Donnell I took judo for a couple years when I was a teen and I have had to use it unfortunately a couple times to defend myself. I agree with you on the importance of defending oneself. I am a big fan of science, but I am an engineer by profession. I do chemistry, geology and physics experiments as hobbies. I guess you could throw in microbiology as well since I have an addiction to my microscopes. I mainly focus on mineral synthesis and strive to achieve specific control of uniformity, crystal lattice and habit characteristics. I collect the elements of the periodic table, extracting as much as possible from rocks and minerals that I collect from nature. It keeps my mind busy.
@Joshua Now, I'm sure you wish you could turn back the hands of time and study more for that math test or spend more time writing that English paper, but unfortunately we're past that, okay? Now you've got to live with the decisions you made and your bad grades and decide how you will move on, okay? Maybe you're just a bad student who doesn't care about your grades, but I don't think that's the case and this is your chance to explain what went wrong and give yourself a chance to move past your bad decisions, okay?
@walking olga yeah i noticed that, the interrogator has really great technique and i think that ending most of his phrases with a question directed at him was meant to build rapport or make him feel more comfortable and connected to what he was saying, it might also be because a question snaps him back into reality and stops him from trying to come up with something in his head or dissasociating. its a really long session of mental exhaustion and although they didnt get a confession they had everything they needed when they entered that room
@KTJ its about building a relationship with the suspect so there is a level of trust and the suspect is more willing to open up and divulge information.
@Kayla Tijerina yes it's explained in the video. It's to keep their mind racing and focused on what he's saying, so the suspect doesn't have the mental capacity to come up with a lie or disassociate and escape.
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Jack Donnelly2021-06-05 10:13:59 (edited 2021-06-05 10:16:32 )
@KTJ yeah. It sounds like it's rambling but every single thing the detective is doing and saying is absolutely calculated. He's "rambling" to break the guy down psychologically and not let him think.
Think about someone asking you a question you need to think about, but as you're thinking they keep talking to you. It's incredibly difficult to think straight if someone is just chatting nonsense to you. That's why people say shit like "shut up and let me think" etc.
It sounds like the detective is just talking rubbish, but this is actually psychologically exhausting. Even though he sounds all nice about it, it's still exhausting.
I feel bad for Rafferty's lawyer. He knows the guy is guilty as sin, but knows if he doesn't do his job, a mistrial will be declared and the guy might get away with what he did.
@Princeofcups Poc um dude they knew this guy was guilty already. Tons of evidence and a confession from the girlfriend. Cops change their game plan depending on the situation. This was to make sentencing easier
@Princeofcups Poc Just saw this. I get what you are saying. There are people who get screwed (i.e. Guilty Until Proven Innocent video from JCS). But in this case, I believe they already had overwhelming evidence which all came flooding in once his accomplice confessed. I've also seen videos where cops try to get someone to confess by bluffing their way through, but because the guy was innocent, he called them out on it. In this, however, I think they did right.
@Samuel Rodriguez And to think most other systems in society kill, or aid in killing, a higher percentage of people than that... Damn. Take the Education system, for one.
@Samuel Rodriguez You've completely taken my comment out of proportion and meaning.
I meant that the Educational system is so broken, that it's actually killing people, too.
Heard of the 'school-to-prison pipeline'? It's basically that disadvantaged children enter school without adequate support for their needs, get told they're failures because the Educational system isn't actually built to help them, but disadvantage them more, and this results in them going straight in the direction of crime and other prison sentences, that can see them completely waste their lives away, just because they weren't given the initial help when they needed it in their formative years.
Maybe not the best example, as the 4% rate of the Prison/Death sentence system killing falsely accused people would cause a higher amount of death, but if you then further look into the 'school-to-prison pipeline', you'll see what I mean.
I like how you just went ahead and guessed at my political affiliation, whilst my first comment clearly states that I have an issue with *all systems*. Lethally injecting someone would physically do less harm than the self-destructive Educational system, though.
May I ask what your political affiliation is?
Critical Race Theory is something I'm still learning about, as I'm not from the US, and it frankly isn't something I've even heard discussed where I live, in context to the word, that is. Out of-context, it's something treated as fact.
In saying that, yes, liberalism has greater hindered CRT (and its precursor, CLS), and that is a fact. By definition, liberalism is only socially left, but still accepting and wanting of an economically right society and proceedings. So whilst CRT is socially accepted in liberal mindsets, nothing is economically done to stop, or reduce, the economical disadvantages POC experience. My view, if you're wanting to do something, you do it in all contexts, not just half-arse it and hope the economical exploitation eventually stops one day.
Interested on your thoughts, because, again, I'm still new to CRT, as it's never been a highly politicised theory where I live, and I only heard about it a few months ago :)
@ė ģ§źø ģķź³ ģģ“ That might be A factor, but I doubt it's THE factor, or the main issue.
This is just my thoughts, but I'd say if you lived in a shitty neighborhood, but had a good school, you'd still be in the pipeline you talked about.
I believe the bigger of the two (and they are both problems, I don't deny that) is that these kids are raised in a drug infested, gang riddled neighborhoods. And if we're talking about the inner city schools in particular, the AA community has been suffering from a massive missing father problem, which we know fucks kids up.
I'm not trying to argue with you. Just making conversation on an interesting topic you've brought up.
@ė ģ§źø ģķź³ ģģ“ my bad for assuming your political ideology it's just wierd that your response was that the education system is worse then the death penalty killing innocent people. As for the school to prison your right it starts at a young age kids who cant concentrate as well as other kids are punished and kicked out of class. Theres isnt a system in place to support students who need not only financial support but also extra support when learning. Another factor is drugs students get caught and arrested and withdrawn from school at alarming rates. Not to mention not every student even gets free lunch. It's a cumulative amount of things which lead to people losing their life. I would agree "Systemic" problems are usually worse however just because one thing is worse then the other doesnt mean we cant solve both.
Naw a mistrial in his case wonāt make a difference. Theyāll just try him again. A case so high profile they really dot their eyes across the board. He still deserves a defense. Iām assuming the max in Canada is life. I feel bad though because this case canāt really do any good for him unless he was fighting a death penalty. Heās just a mouthpiece in a case like this.
That has to be one of the most demoralizing things. I guess in his profession he knows to let feelings go and focus his mind on the book, black or white, no gray areas. It's easier said than done but for someone to pull that off, that's pretty incredible.
@Gunship ehh. I think it takes a toll. In the interview though itās game day and they love it. It depends on the person though. Iām not a violent guy what so ever unless you attack me. Obviously heās disgusted the whole time. He already knows what he did. Itās not that hard to be somewhat forgiving and cordial. Maybe most people canāt control their emotions? I certainly can
The way I look at it is the defence attorney's job is not to get him off or make him seem innocent but to keep the prosecution in check so they have correctly assessed the facts of the case and that he gets a fair and just trail not a witch hunt. not just for rafferty's sake but for the good of all citizens
the point of being a lawyer is to try to get your defendant off the chopping block. they decided to help maybe murderers and definitive murderers when they signed up for the job.
That's how our justice system works. Everyone deserves a lawyer, even a sick fuck like him. At this point the lawyer isn't defending his innocence, so much as trying to eliminate the possibility of capital punishment.
As a mother, the words "rubbing up and down in your car" made me feel sick. Thinking about what this poor little girl went through has me seething and it's just tragic. It makes the "I'm not mad at you" strategy so painful to watch.
@Jay Aargh it is not only shocking but incredibly sad that you think a mother would love her son any less because he is male. I'm sorry you were obviously not loved, but I know for a fact it is not because you are male.
Mine is 7, I can tell u..I could/would eat his heart if something happened to my children.. I feel like a fuck now..,I have tears and angry as the same time..
33 weeks preggo with an almost 2 year old girl here! These are addicting to watch but boy did this one hurt my heart, I cried throughout the vid too :(
I have a ten month old. I will do everything in my power to protect her I donāt even like posting pictures of her online. My parents did everything they could to protect me and I still had bad shit happen to me. You just have to do everything you can and love them
What a pathetic waste of space; sitting there sniveling like a child throwing himself a pity party like we should all feel sorry for him. Disgusted and in awe that he has the gall to act like that after what he did to that innocent child. Props to the investigator for being professional and patient in this situation because lord knows I wouldn't be able to stomach more than 30 seconds of this with out flying off the handle.
47:35 The way the narrator basically just calmly explains, "Yeah, you can put down your notebooks, this part doesn't have any intellectual content I just think it's funny to watch this piece of shit get verbally choke slammed." is dry comedy in its most sublime form.
This one of those cases thatās truly difficult to hear about it. Itās beyond heartbreaking and unfair. Itās a terrifying reminder that we are still living amongst monsters that are pure evil.
@Bubblekittea I couldn't. I made it through a few minutes at the start then skipped to the last few minutes. Thats about all i could stomach. There are no words to describe the atrocity that occurred. Probably the worst crime i think i've ever heard of.
This interogator is so slick. Makes me proud to be a Canadian that we have guys like this. No mercy and fully confident in his well deserved skills. What an incredible display of knowledge and execution.
Thats one of the reasons why I like this channel. Its like you can hear the sound of the psychological punches hitting the persons ego. The process is brutal, to an extent agonizing. In almost any other circumstance, this would be psychological abuse. But yet, this person deserves it.
When I saw the title of this video my stomach turned. I lived in Toronto when this happened, only a few minutes down the highway. Watching this video was hard, but I like knowing that he had to sit through this. Throwing the name Bernardo at him repeatedly, especially at the very end, was brilliant. If you don't know who that is, he's the most vile and hated man in Canada. Look up the name Paul Bernardo if you'd like to learn more. We don't have this kind of thing happen often in Canada, so when it does it really has an impact on you. I can't really say much more. Just feeling renewed anger and disgust.
Wow. The investigator did such an amazing job. So interesting to see the tactics unfold. He told the dude how it was. Even when they brought the other witness in. Wow is all I've got to say. š
I know I am late but god it was satisfying when the detective said āIām here for Tory. To make you squirm. And Iām having a good time doing itā. That was amazing.
The saddest part is how she suffered in her last moments, her innocence was taken away from her, this was the moment she realized that not all people are good people. Some are monsters. She got caught purely because of her innocence and wanting to see the puppy. This person is not a man. He is the trash of humanity. He didn't deserve to be born.
I've been across from detectives before and this officer does an incredible job of engaging the suspect in dialog by telling him he is "assessing the threat." Naturally the suspect would feel compelled to win this guy over in order to get a good report to the court about his level of threat and lessen his punishment. He seems like an ally, not a threat. He's great at his job!
Hard to believe this woman helped him to do this ! why? And how could she allow this to happen? Just terrible! No question he is an evil monster ! But she helped him its just really sad !
Presumably he is incapable of an emotional response to the situation, would such a crime be possible otherwise? It seems important to point out the logic of high functioning psychopaths gravitating towards powerful political positions, resulting in the pathological nature of foreign policy with the multiplication of human suffering and damage caused.
The narratorās comparison of the perpās disposition at interrogation vs his disposition when committing the crime is the vvery definition of cowardice.
I've almost vomited. I can't handle the image brought up by the 'bad cop'. It's just beyond my comprehension. I somehow can imagine hurting an adult, a person who, to a certain degree, is able to protect themself. But how sick and evil you have to be to hurt a child, be that cruel, destroy this child's soul and body. When he talks I feel so much anger and I cannot imagine what the parents felt. Being an investigator seems to be a very interesting job but I would be just too emotional, I just wouldn't be able to hide the disgust and anger. I know they are trained professionalists but they come back home and think about it, there is no way it doesn't affect them.
The one thing I love about convicts is they do all the worst things possible to child molesters/killers. Katieās Revenge pops into my head but not nearly the worst heās going through. Heās got soft skin and doesnāt look like a fighter. Not to other men at least. They will love him. Thatās just this life..
I'm always amazed the amount of people who sit in the this guys spot and don't immediately say they want a lawyer. No matter what the crime I wouldn't let a cop get two words out before asking for one.
This is in Canada, the laws here are different with respect to police interrogation. While suspects can ask for a lawyer, the police are not required to stop an interrogation after that request is made. We have something similar to 'Miranda', but the words you hear on all the TV shows aren't used here.
"Ya haven't touched ya doughnut" it's the little things like this that remind you this crime took place in Canada. Such thoughtful people...I mean...like the ones who don't commit atrocities.....
I would like to give a nice crisp high five to the investigator who at the end mercilessly insults this piece of garbage. One of my favorite things he said... if you ask me why I'm here, I'm here for Tori...and I'm having a good time...
The initial detective said "ok" a lot. I like the style of the lead investigator when he came in and let loose. Why do Canadian attorneys wear those ties?
āWe all make mistakes, thatās why pencil have erasers; itās that simple [ā¦] if I could turn back time for you Mike, I would, but itās not that simpleā (simply loved it)
1 I cannot do the friendly repertoire persona so props to those who can hold that down 100 2 his first words are complete denial of involvement, second are probability of innocence, third are - with laughter - acting innocent when the statement āsheās goneā came up 3 doing it at all then a resolution as such To protect themselves - THEYāLL DO IT AGAIN & PROBABLY DID BEFORE TO SOME DEGREE š”
the we're done statement always makes me laugh, without fail this dude did not deserve the comfort of a thin blanket he received, glad he didn't even get his happy meal lol
Oh my GOD how the fuck can a person be so sick. I'm so happy iv been incarcerated b4 so I seen exactly what kinda life this man will have in prison. As soon as the convicts find out, he's gonna be crying out loud. Someone send a kite to his home prison so they find out, cuz not all prisons check paperwork. His torment should start right away. No flying under the radar like they do sometimes for a little while.
Ehhh, I feel like there was many times where these detectives couldāve done something more effective. Maybe effective generally but certainly not for this person.
Homie really said that itās been intense for him, like what about for the literal child who was killed before she probably even knew the concept of death
this one was harder to watch than the others...mostly because i remember the news at the time...the posters the searching and the video of her being walked away from the school ///
Why would you be worried about how youāre perceived if you were innocent ? If youāre hungry and innocent youāre not going to care what type of study heās doing or how it makes you look .
How in the hell did they both get the same sentence? I feel like we're missing a big part of the case here. Maybe its because your channel doesnt focus on it but I feel like that was weird
Honestly so infuriating when someone is proven guilty and they just go quiet and keep uselessly trying to maintain innocence. They have proof and they just keep saying "no that's wrong" it's so stupiddd
WTF? What is the problem with HD surveillance cameras being OUT OF FOCUS? In 2009, I think cameras are able to focus better than a picture looking like it was from 1922.
First vid of yours I haven't been able to sit all the way through, only because hearing a monster who did something so terrible sniffle like a baby is unleashing some kind of feral anger in me.
Anyways, thank you for putting out so much good content.
Mike wasn't as clever as Karla who gamed the system. She cut a plea deal & only later when detectives viewed a video did they realise that they had made a deal with the devil! She now walks the streets free!
I find it strange that they got the same sentence. Obviously she should be punished, she played a huge part, but it seems like his punishment should be worse somehow
He should have ordered a steak dinner. Or at least bucket of KFC and a bag of double cheeseburgers, if they couldn't get their hands on a steak in a hurry. 'Cause this was his last opportunity to ever have a normal meal in his life. Then he also had a reason to vomit...
The investigator is babbling for more than an hour and half ! Wtf
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Che Anarchist2021-12-31 01:03:34 (edited 2021-12-31 01:05:21 )
It could be that itās possibly freezing I havenāt eaten since noon š seriously dude you rapped & killed a child a baby girl , gonna get messed up inside , they beat up child killers inside .... Whats your biggest concern .? regret... he said losing my life ..... sicko he didnāt even say killing an innocent child was his biggest concern or regret
@S_Mai yeah I came onto this channel to chill and watch some criminals get there come upence not to feel down. Well if it makes you feel any better at least he won't be doing it to anyone else
poured one out for her last night since she would be 21 and im not joking i did it since one of my family members died in a similar way and i felt bad for her. And yes rest in peace
@Guaranagaucho Happy late birthday!ššššš 22... Enjoy your youth, and keep healthy. No one else will look after your body like you can. Geez... I was 40 when you were born!š³š š š
@Sm Ms I wish you all the best. I am SO glad that you are alive today!!! I'm 62, yikes... š¶š¬ Life is wonderful! ALL of it. Look after your body, no one else will do that for you. Good luck, may your Life be happy, healthy, fun!!! Be safe!!!
@Tiffany you're 100% right!I lived in Niagara falls Canada for most of my life up until I was 25,and the self defense laws are pathetic! If someone even admits that a legal weapon is intended for self defense,its illegal.the only legal stun guns are those big stun batons.Spring assisted knives/balisongs/OTF's are illegal .Theyre handgun laws suck.They basically expect citizens to use 9-11 and a whistle to defend themselves.
For real, props to this detective. It must be fucking horrible to sit there and act like what the person did was no big deal; like you can empathize with a child rapist and murderer.
āAm I sitting across the desk from Paul Bernardo here?ā
Wow. That was smart as hell. He painted the suspect into a corner with one of Canadaās most notorious rapists. And the payoff is to make this criminal see exactly what the rest of the world could think of him.
As a kid growing up in that time in Canada I remember so clearly having stranger danger shoved down our throats because of this case. The details of her kidnapping helped unearth some memories. I didnāt remember her name because no adult would go further beyond saying a girl was kidnapped and never came home. Knowing the details here, I can understand why. I remember my friends and I, as kids, talking about it and what weād do if someone promised to show us a bunch of puppies and what if they actually had puppies. I remember actively avoiding petting dogs at the park and being afraid of being near parked cars with open doors.
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Gabriel Abato2021-09-08 09:58:15 (edited 2021-09-09 10:01:05 )
I grew up in Ontario around the same time as well and I remember in school they were big on showing us all these stranger danger videos lol I dunno if it was all because of Tori, because there were other pretty famous cases at the time (like the boy in Alberta who was also kidnapped and killed) but yeah it's funny how it works. I remember one of the videos was a girl being approached by a guy with a dog so that maybe that was inspired by Tori. I think it's good they at least taught us this stuff because street smarts really are so important
Good. I made my son and daughter paranoid, too.āš
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Gabriel Abato2021-09-19 14:03:38 (edited 2021-09-19 14:04:01 )
@Kat Tsun lmao that's not what's happening. It's about having street smarts and not just trusting the word of anybody who walks up to you. Which is what every kid should be learning
@Gabriel Abato Genuine cope. That's literally what you're doing rn.
In Japan a man who asks if you want to see puppies is asking you if you want to see puppies. He's an uncle and he's harmless because everyone knows who he is, he's the guy who tends to the old family shrine down the street every day for as long as anyone can remember, he's like 90 years old, and he lived through the American bombing.
In Canada they're an accomplice to a murder-rapist? Wild.
You don't need street smarts in a safe society, because the streets are as safe as your own home in a safe society. The idea that the streets are dangerous only comes out when society at large has failed, either because it's too diverse (thus, dangerous, because diversity incites criminality due to differences in opinions, social structures, cultural-economic understandings, and genetics) or it's too poorly policed, or whatever.
Canada has a murder rate four times higher than that of Japan's, and a rape rate 2/3rd's greater, and probably edges towards the younger end of that scale because Anglophone countries seem to be really child rapey for whatever reason. It's one of the nicer Anglophone countries, too, and it's still quite dangerous. It's hardly Australia or the United States in terms of rape or violent crime.
So children in Japan as young as seven or eight can generally walk home from school, go to the store, and ride the subway, unless American soldiers are around, in which case they are genuinely in danger of being kidnapped and raped by a few Marines or sailors, but even that seems to happen less than the rape-murders in Canada lol.
It's not a big secret, either. Japan is just better at policing, better at punishing criminals, and more socially (and ethnically/genetically) homogeneous than Canada. Canada is a fairly patchworky, heterogeneous place with a lot of intermingling ethnic groups from all the world in cities like Ontario and Toronto and Vancouver, which makes them unsafe by nature.
The sort of behavior that's common in Tokyo, like six or seven years olds walking home from school every day by themselves a few miles or so, would get you kidnapped and rape-murdered in Ontario or Toronto lol.
Anglo countries should take a page from Japan or Singapore and divest themselves of a lot of the trash ideology stuff that makes their societies dangerous. They won't, and it's a pipe dream (Australia is trying, bless their hearts), but it would be a lot better than what Canadians, Australians, Americans, and Britishers have to deal with at the moment.
@Kat Tsun Diversity doesnāt lead to failed societies. The contention that homogenous populations commit less crime isnāt backed up by any real evidence. Sweden and Norway are some of the most homogeneous countries in the world with some of the highest rape rates in the western world. Japanās postwar cultural shift and regulation on weapons are more likely the cause of low crime in the country. Also the notion that Japanese children should be scared that American soldiers are going to rape them is absolutely absurd.
@Bennett Mitchell Sweden has a very liberal definition of rape that expands the number counted, so you're comparing apples to oranges, and it mostly happens in diverse cities like Malmo anyway.
Diversity doesn't lead to failed societies, it just leads to more violence without strong enforcement of borders and segregation of the disparate groups. This is sort of the point behind NECSI modeling of violence in Yugoslavia and Switzerland.
@Kat Tsun In the US, the majority of crime occurs between people of the same ethnicity which really goes against your claim. I donāt know if you live in the US or a country with immense diversity like it, but tension between different groups that goes far enough to create crime isnāt that strong. Crime in the US (and in the rest of the world) is largely an effect from poverty in certain areas, not diversity.
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Kat Tsun2021-10-08 01:19:18 (edited 2021-10-08 01:24:45 )
@Bennett Mitchell US Census Bureau definitions don't matter in this regard?
People are different based on a variety of factors, genetics being predominant in adulthood in general, and heterogeneous societies full of diverse cultures, economic systems, and differing gene pools will be more violent than ones that are broadly speaking the same language, coming from the same culture, and related to each other for thousands of years of interbreeding and mingling.
Crime in the US is related to diversity because poverty is related to diversity. Diverse societies are built like India and other massively disparate empires: on functional caste systems with people at the top and the bottom. America is a racialist caste society and was founded by slaveowners explicitly so the slaveowners could dodge taxes being used to pay for their dumb frontier war, so it's not surprising that the slave system continues in ever more diluted forms.
America's caste system is markedly more racist than most societies because it tends to judge based on skin color alone though, which is something that Americans think is universal because they have no real knowledge of the world. For the most part this is fairly inaccurate since it fails to grasp that there are wide, immense differences in "skin color" (just ask how much cultural relevance a Milanese gentleman of 1600 has to a Sapmi reindeer herder at the same era, or modern Yoruba to Igbo or various neighboring Bantus to Somalis, for modern times) that are fairly relevant.
Read Azar Gat's Nations smh.
The US is by far the most violent "Western" country, Japan is by far the least, and everyone else is somewhere in between. In the future I suspect the US will end up similar to Brazil or Argentina: i.e. a racial apartheid state held together by the glue of a broadly Caucasian and Asiatic ruling class against a mass of Hispanic or African-American lower castes and some Caucasian middle managers.
Generally speaking, economic distance alone isn't adequate to do crime. It requires a combination of cultural-linguistic and genetic distance that simply doesn't exist in places like Korea or Japan, but certainly exists in the United States, and whatever bizarre admixtures of Bantustan tribals collected from various Malian and proto-Nigerian warlords that constitute "African-American" are. That sort of cultural distance kind of sort of still exists in European societies, but they've been tempered by recent, ephemeral events to not fight each other. At least the Western ones have.
Long term prediction is that Western Europe will probably be violent again in a century or two since it's always been fairly violent between each other though. That's assuming there's no major genetic shifts in the ruling classes I suppose, since it's entirely possible they may be replaced by a homogeneous ruling elite that unites the disparate peoples under an iron fist, like the Arabs did in North Africa a thousand years ago.
@Bennett Mitchell It really is not about poverty. The poorest areas in the US are still above world average, but the crime rates are some of the highest in the world. You might argue that it is a consequence of the collapse of social structure in ex-slave groups like US blacks, Haitians, Jamaicans, etc.
As for the negative effects of diversity on social trust, it is a generally accepted finding from Robert Putnam.
@WubbleBubble Ball People fight over things, people have different languages, different customs, etc. and it's harder for people who are unrelated on all levels (genes, economics, nationality, language, culture) to communicate accurately.
You're more likely to piss someone off and start a fight to put it bluntly.
Sounds like you had good parents......it's difficult as a parent to know how much warning to give your child...don't want to scare them but on the other hand you do want to scare them.....hope you know what I mean.....safety for your child is # 1
Listened to this while ironing and by the 30th minute now I'm positively affirmed "I'm not a monster. I made mistakes. I gotta deal with it and move on. I can't turn back time. Nobody can decide my destiny but myself. My credibility is all I have left"
I canāt even begin to imagine the utter terror, pain, and loneliness that innocent little girl must have experienced. So sickening & devastating that her life ended with those as her final moments...what absolute fucking monsters.
I was deeply disturbed by this as well. When youāre an empathetic individual like myself and like you seem to be itās hard not to place yourself in that little girls shoes. Both of these assholes are monsters they will get their comeuppance
@Krist H just btw, the woman is just as big of a monster. The woman is the one that killed the little girl. I donāt mean metaphorically, the woman is the one who hit the girl in the head with the hammer.
What makes it even more horrifying is that after all the pain, fear, and trauma she endured, there was no reprieve. No relief or hope that it was over. The very last thing this little girl saw on Earth was the face of her rapist and murderer. He's a monster and yet he still has the nerve to act like the victim? Disgusting.
Right, and not only is the death penalty justice, but it acts as a deterrent, even to those who have already committed the crime. If this guy had any way of avoiding death he wouldāve because he cares about himself. As is, this guy had nothing to squirm about. Three meals a day a place to live free healthcare, likely his own cell and segregated because even prisoners or more just then liberals out here on the street that are protecting these evil people. In jail they Will serve justice to people like this guy. Even people who have murdered themselves.
Smith was playing good cop the entire time, the worst thing he did was promise food that he didn't deliver on. The lead investigator was the one grilling the fuck out of him at the halfway mark and at the end.
@ang yeah. As a recovering addict with a 12 yr addiction and 6 yr clean time...i can say that addiction makes you do things you wouldnt ever do under a normally functioning brain. Not that what these people did was okay...they need to be held accountable...
@ang im sorry but fuck that noise. Ive been addicted to drugs too but even at my lowest point i wouldnt help someone kidnap, rape, and murder a child. Id kill myself before i did something so evil. Being remorseful doesnt give that child her life back.
This wasn't just addiction, this was an addict under the control of a psychopath. We would all like to think we'd be stronger than that, but every neurotypical person can be broken, addiction simply makes it easier.
@kristova Palenkova it's about life experience and perspective....drugs and mental problems can help a brain justify ANY action.
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Laura Rudolph2020-09-17 11:36:37 (edited 2020-09-17 11:38:44 )
@RIPzzzzzzz 100% agree I've been there and thought of some low down stuff .. that was never a thought for a bag of dope no I dont think so. There is something seriously wrong with her also mentally I will agree to that. Thank God druga don't do this to everyone because there would be about half a million kids taken daily
Yeah I don't understand that too the only thing I can think of is fear or a aim to please seek approval accepted feel needed all the above. Just sick just pure evil. Just like the single women that bring these men into their homes around their young children and they end up molesting them and the women don't say anything because God forbid they don't have a man.
@Unohoo congratulations on your 6 years prayers to continue success. By the grace of God I've never done drugs so I can't possibly imagine the decision one makes you get drugs but how desperate do you have to be to lure a little sweet baby girl into a car so she can't get raped and brutally murdered. That goes far beyond prostitution or theft.
@Netizen exactly. She could have been easily manipulated into doing almost anything. He could have told her something like 'help me lure this girl because I'm going to ransom her back to her parents so we can get heroin money'. As an addict she would be eager to believe anything he told her as long as it ended in her getting a fix. She is obviously still responsible for her actions and her addiction isn't an excuse as much as it is an explanation.
BA sorry but there is different kinda drugs out there and not all drugs give the exact affect. I was using drugs too and would never do that in any way. But there is some people out there would do just to get some more. Nobody is like you
The part that broke my heart, well everything did but.. it first broke when they said she returned to her class to get something she forgot for her mom. Wow such an innocent and sweet thing then the devil and his reject shows up and takes her and does the most horrific things possible.. wow RIP beautiful angel.
I want Jim to narrate my whole life in real time, like "right now our subject is making a decision outside his usual pattern and what he thinks is a moment of spontaneity is actually the first manifestation of him giving in to psychological pressure he had previously been able to control" so I can be like nope definitely not smoking meth "just once" lol
Technically he's losing his life too. Sick situation. The girl has the worst end of the stick admittedly as she was innocent. But this guy. Idk what im trying to say. This should have all never happened. I fucking hate this crap
Funny how when Jim asks "what are you afraid of losing?" And he says "My life!" He wasn't concerned about Tori's and she had lots of life ahead of her. He already lived 20 more than her.
sab Yeh, I suspect his hubris caused him to believe he was losing his life in an analogous manner - ie. by life in prison or death penalty - I donāt agree or justify it, but that may well be what he believed in his own mind.
@Tyler Hunter most likely when anyone finds out why he is in, he is probably dead. Walking out of "rehab" with x color folder, someone watched it on the news...etc. Only 27 states have the death penalty officially, but all 50 have it unofficially.
Hate when people say this. Obviously heās crying because heās in distress or heās sorry he got caught and afraid for the future. When you got caught stealing from the cookie jar you still cried when your mama confronted you š¤Ø but stay saying the same overused phrase
@Lemoncholy Oh. I only got a notification for your message and not the othersā¦fuck youtube, seriously. Well I still believe what I said, but I hate youtube and its notification system
Holy rabbit hole, Batman! I started with Jodi Arias and two days later ended up here. FBI-I'm not planning anything. These videos are just super interesting.
You're not the only one! I find murder fascinating, not because I want to do it, but just to see how it completely changes a person, what their attitude is like, what insane stories they will spin. It reminds me of lord voldy and Dumbledore's description of how murder completely and irrevocably changes someone, how Voldy split his soul to the point he couldn't feel anything, to the point that he wasn't able to forsee someone sacrificing themselves because of the love they had for another to save them. These murderers are so irrevocably damaged by what they have done, there just isn't any humanity left in them, they turn into something else, something sub-human. Its disgusting, but still fascinating.
Also, I have such bad anxiety that I pre-pre-plan everything, so i also find it fascinating that people make rash decisions without first thinking out every possible scenario to ensure their actions are hidden... like...how?! How do you just decide to murder someone with no plan for after? I can't even go to a family gathering without preparing for at least a week in advance what I'm going to say, who I'm going to talk to, what I'm going to do with my body language, what I'm going to wear, etc...
For some reason, I could stomach the Jodi Arias case, even with the photos for God's sake. But I hear introduction in this video and hear what occurred and I feel... that I can't. Paused and just comment this right here. I know what it is. It is the fact that the child could not and can't do much. That I know people like this one exist. That there are probably more of them that I want to acknowledge. That it makes me as a woman scared, scared to think about ever having children. And these cases actually scare me. I don't want to see the abuse and violence in the world... it is killing everyhing good.
I feel it I feel it, honestly I watch these to try and understand the psychological aspects of a guilty person and when to spot them. yanno? Itās honestly really interesting
John D. Rockefeller I used to think the same thing! Then I met someone who does composite sketches . They know how to ask the right questions and talk you through it. Theyāre pretty amazing! And the techniques they use are awesome.
Wow... i just read that 7 years into her sentence, she was being transferred from a max security prison to an Aboriginal healing lodge... wtf is that all aboot! (Little pun inserted)!
Watching this I realize I could not be an interrogator. I could keep up the conversation for 15-20 min max before losing my cool. This guy is top notch
I heard him being introduced but I had to skip back because it sounds like two completely different people. The good-nature Tim Hortons coffee is the only thing that ties together the two investigations.
OneBagTravel Itās the same detective. Jim Smyth is being the ābad copā in this interrogation. Hereās a line from an article about the Rafferty investigation: āAfter two "good cops" offer Rafferty the promise of a sympathetic ear, the bad cop bursts in: Ontario Provincial Police Det. Staff Sgt. Jim Smyth, who would later garner national headlines for successfully extracting a confession from sex killer Russell Williams.ā https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/michael-rafferty-interrogation-video-released-1.1202581
it is insane that these detectives can sit in a room with a man who sexually assaulted and killed an 8 y/o girl and keep their composure. i would not have the will power not to beat him to a pulp.
I'm only 10 mins in but the detective goes "it's ok it can happen to anyone you sit there watching your child videos for hours and hours everyday, of course you wanna go try for yourself, can happen to the best of us, I get it" ššš
@Irina Munteanu donāt worry!! heās lying. heās trying to appear more understanding to the suspect so the suspect will let his guard down or slip up and admit to something to get the confession going. heās probably seething under the skin.
@Irina Munteanu he probably has a bit of a drinking problem and insomnia. I personally knew an officer who worked child crimes for years. Everything from finding CP on a laptop to cases like the one in this video. I canāt thank guys like that enough who put these monsters behind bars and best case scenario those monsters get taken care of in prison.
I think the need for justice for Tori and protection for other children would be a massive motivation to interview and help convict these sick sick monsters!
@AthanaSia Skreta they have a job to do and they would use the video as proof in court. Even though they know what will happen they just wanna solidify the case and it looks good on your record getting someone to confess to rape and murder.
I used to be a social worker in a male prison. Sitting listening to a dude give explicit details of how he cut off a womanās nipples, wrapped her in barbed wire and kept her in his trunk. You stay in work mode to get to the bottom of it.
@Caroline Maybe yes you have toā¦ you must have a solid stomach to be able to sit there, listen and remain calm. You are brave my friend. At the end of the day is about bringing justice to the victims isnāt it?
A mental fortitude is something that is built over many years, as such as is the case with developing resilience to life's difficulties. Strength is built from weakness so hopefully, you'll get stronger over time.
I'm not mad at ya, you don't make angry cause I seen this stuff all the time kay? We just need to get this of your chest kay? It's outta your hands now kay?
sure, sure, what im trying to find out is if you're just some guy from youtube or a cold blooded murderer. I believe you are just a regular folf, please dont prove me wrong, tell me the truth
Hope you don't have Internet history like that dude. If you do then I'd worry too but as others said, nothing to fear if you don't have anything to hide. But yeah the detective is great at his job and knows what he's talking aboot
People are much more egocentric than you want to think, assuming you are of healthy mind. Lots of people get sick, mentally, through a myriad of options (genetically, upbringing, substance abuse, psychosis, disorders, (the list is very long and since the beginning of psychology has been discussed)).
Then when confronted, the nearest reality is the one of their own fate, and feel remorse for their own fate. There are so many different things going on in his head which you can label: confirming to the structure ('my lawyer said to me to shut up...'), cognitive dissonance, lack of empathy, but also the sense of guilt, as the interrogator also stated; his intestines were almost making him puke. Remember, the man was broken down mentally and crying is a natural way of relieving that. You can be the baddest boy in the world, but if you get worked on like that, you cry.
But yes, this is a case where we are not obliged to feel empathy for this 'man' and i'm also not asking for that. But it doesn't amaze me that he cries, as much as we would want him not to be; he still is a human.
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Led Floyd2020-08-26 10:19:29 (edited 2020-08-26 10:21:00 )
@Verox excellent observation, but you've also got to consider the actions of a narcissist. Most people could not torture, rape and kill an 8 year old child. The ones that would are no doubt narcissists. I believe he's crying because he doesn't know what's going to happen to him, he got caught. Nothing about this tape shows the least bit of remorse for that poor girl. I'm a 28 year old man myself, if I were to accidentally hit a child while driving my car and killed them, I would be crying like a fucking baby because even though it wasn't my fault, I took a life. It would have nothing to do with my future repercussions. I don't see that in him at all.
Bit of a ramble, but this video has got me particularly disturbed.
He's such an actor. Look at him, damn he's good, cause he's acting like he's sick, like he's prostrated, like he's innocent, like he's a victim, yet whenever he talks, he's sarcastic, his voice doesn't tremble, and he's sure of his innocence, without really claiming it. He acts like he's in a movie, like he's the hero wrongly accused. I don't think he's really listening to the officer at first. He's so scary, that officer is really good.
Edit: he's literally acting like a rebel teen, he thinks if he doesn't answer, he might get out, he's like "I'm not going to talk to you" like a little kid
I donāt think heās acting. I think heās got the mind of a kid. He hates he got caught and now heās not gonna deal with the authority that got him. Like a kid whose parents are trying to punish them.
usually not talking to the police is the best thing you can do. Sadly it can cause a criminal to get on the streets and talking also can and has gotten innocent people into jail.
This is what made this video so hard to watch emotionally... There's something missing in that guy's head where feelings should be. He was just acting, and acting badly...
You know, in some medieval castles there is a gated hole that they just drop prisoners in, sometimes too narrow to do anything but stand up and lay down, and if youāre extra unlucky the castle waste gets down there. They throw you down there and forget about you. The only people you see are the ones that toss you in that hole. This man deserves nothing less than that
Yet, he will stay in a prison that has electricity, heating, plumbing, clean water, he will be fed, and all that at the expense of the government and their tax payers! Yay, isn't the world just wonderful...
@Victor Jimenez His mother (who was suffering from cancer at the time) apparently kept paying large sums of money to the prisoners he was in there with to keep them from beating the shit out of him.
She's dead now, though, so hopefully he's now getting the harsh treatment he deserves.
In some of those oubliettes the walls and floor would be grated, meaning there would be tiny spiked barbs implanted in the walls and floors, making it a permanent state of torture just standing. It would be incredibly painful to lie down or even lean against a wall...Sometimes I think that we need to bring some of those old practices back when we have to deal with people like these
Peter let the children come to me for the kingdom of heaven belongs to creatures such as theses, this is the gospel of the lord praise to you lord Jesus Christ. Jesus said children are prescious and innocent and are admitted to heaven immediately that's were that little 8 year old angel went straight into the arms of Jesus. I would not like to be Mr Rafferty on his day of judgement.
āKill them with kindness. Then club them like a baby seal.ā Quote from an instructor at an Interview/Interrogations class. All the respect in the world for the people that deal with these monsters.
And I hope the people like the interrogator and everyone else who has to work on cases like these get proper therapy. I know how I feel and I can see how the people the comments feel just watching of video of, what is essentially, just 2 people talking. Imagine having to see the crime scene, figuring out what happened, talking to the victim's relatives.... People like this Micheal truly cause an amount of harm that can not be undone in any way.
@Lunar Bubu You know, I thought I was reading wrong and second guessed myself. I was trying to say maybe they meant to say the baby seal is the one doing the clubbing. Agree, no hitting baby seals.
Out of all of the criminal psychology videos and true crime interrogations ive seen, this guy is the most fucking absolutely fascinating interrogator ive seen.
I never understand why people dont ask for a lawyer?? That would end this and he wont have to sit for hours and hours with people talking at him. As many as i have seen they never ask for a lawyer
People, especially the guilty, often see calling for lawyers as a sign of guilt. So, they feel that they have to prove themselves in the interrogation room, damning themselves.
25 minutes in and I would have confessed to everything that ever happened. I would have confessed to faking the moon landing. I would tell him where Elvis is. I would admit to anything if he would just shut up. Damn he's good.
Iām about ten minutes in and he hasnāt shut up. Isnāt the point of interrogation to get the suspect talking? Iām guessing he gets there but Iāve never seen an interrogation where the detective just rambles.
Bob Wiley I assume because the detective already knows heās guilty, heās just waiting for Michael to crack, scream, get angry or simply just confess. Itās all subjective. if you compare this guy to the Chris Watts case, for example, the detectives change their interrogation style to suit the person theyāre interrogating. Chris rambled his head off after every question asked so the detective in that case just asked open questions. However, this guy would sit in silence, thinking, speculating, trying to find a solution to the situation. Which is not what the detective wants at all so In this case, the detective is the rambler. Thatās just what I think though lol.
Assuming he is literally just trying to kill him with kindness, like frying him, cause I assumed the same thing, but he just keeps on when no confession comes, but the dude already confessed with bodylanguage and weak denying ect. + evidence so it makes sense they just wanna fry him as much as possible, or also just want him to talk for the sake of understanding it better.
At 8 children is it not procedure for children to be monitored at home time, with teachers watching each student being 'handed over' to a known person (anyone who may pick up has to be authorised by the in advance). So the children line up and one by one the children leave and the teacher must witness the child meeting the responsible adult, else the child stay at the school with their teacher! Well that is what happens everyday at the schools my Nieces attend (2 different schools) & they are 7 & 8?!
Wow, I almost cried when they showed the little girl's face, just knowing where this story was going. She deserved so much better, she deserved a good life. Poor baby. She will be forever loved.
If youāre a writer - these interrogations, and the subsequent commentary by the OP, are worth their weight in gold as a character study. The evasion of the suspects, the detailed and specific questioning of the investigator - pure gold. Thank you for posting!
This case is so dark and leaves me with a lot of negative feelings, but it's so funny when the "good cop" investigator promises him food and instead waits an hour and then returns with his coconspirator to confront him. Cops aren't really allowed to take much revenge on suspects (and they shouldn't be), so this little fuck you is hilarious.
What I speculate happened was the two professionals spoke and decided that instead of giving him food still in hopes of the chance that he might verbally confess, said to each other something in the way of, "fuck it, he's probably not gonna confess at this point anyway; you can go home, I'm just gonna tell him what a piece of shit he is to his face for half an hour."
@Mr Bonjangle : yeah, that, and he probably told the other investigator to don't worry about trying to procure more information from the suspect and go home. B/c the psychologist wasn't offering food out of the goodness of his heart, but to encourage the suspect to share information.
When this first started, the way he was acting (crying, almost vomiting, etc), i thought they had already shown him the evidence. I thought he already knew he was guilty based on the way he was acting. That just shows how guilty his behavior was. Innocent people dont break down emotionally like that. For him to then start acting innocent towards the end, was strange.
I agree, also someone said he might be going throw withdraw of opioids of something. That is also a possibility.
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kes 782022-01-27 22:03:17 (edited 2022-01-27 22:04:03 )
He was going through opiate withdrawal. Even his hair will have been hurting him and I think good don't give him any methadone just throw him in a cell. They stopped to buy pills while they were on their way to violate that poor innocent little girl.
I loved the dialogue that JCS said describing how mike was playing a victim and how his victim would have felt during the time he was committing the crime. It was amazingly written and so very well described. This monster deserves no sympathy whatsoever
I had a hard time watching this. I don't think that this detective could get even close to the amount of credit that he deserves. I know that this has been said in the comments but this guy, this detective, is truly a legend.
One of the worst cases and interrogations I have ever seen for sure. This guy showed no remorse and guilt for what he has done. His only thought during the interrogation was to save his a**. I don't like to judge people but he truly deserves life in prison.
The childish way he behaves, shivering and crying trying to gain some kind of pity from the interrogator is even more disturbing and grotesque knowing the violent, evil, inhumane nature of the act he committed. He tried to deny and escape from the accusations till the last moment, while actually knowing he in fact did it to that poor girl. he didn't care, he just wanted to get away with it. Some people are just broken to the point of no return.
I have so much respect for that cop at the end. The amount of restraint he shows there is unbelievable. If I were in one room with such a sick fuck I for sure would have done something horrible.
i love your videos because it really makes me think about why humanity is like this.. such an innocent soul taken away in such a cruel way. Really makes you confused about reality
I commend the man who conducted the interrogation because I could not. I hope he can live in peace with all the evil he's had to witness. Bless him and those like him.
He did a great job of inducing anxiety, and then keeping the pressure on. Whatās important in this interrogation, is not the suspect talking. This is designed to break him. The repetition of statements is going to raise his blood pressure. This works like a steady jab, heās likely to have a burst of frustration and give something away.;
There just doesn't seem to be enough deterrent for these kind of crimes.
I watched the story of the Yorkshire Ripper the other night, and wondered what would happen if they just let the victims' family administer justice, or even the millions of frightened women at the time.
What good can releasing Mike in 25 years bring? What good can come from having 25 years of his life paid for by the tax payers?
About the best that we can hope for is that his lovely personality makes him popular in prison, and he gets a bit of his own treatment.
Couldn't agree more with you. All victims of these crimes, men, women and children, are seldom taken seriously. I can only imagine it's because the elite" in our world have worked so hard to build a system where victims are never or hardly ever taken seriously and can take advantage of the justice system to avoid punishment.
These criminals deserve to have the same pain, if not more, they inflicted on their victims. They do. As a victim myself, I know I'll never get justice. It sucks.
in theory yeah... killing a murderer feels right. But giving the state the ability to execute citizens is.... a very very slippery slope.
I always believe in giving everyone a second chance. Prison should exist to rehabilitate not to purely punish. Otherwise you get something like the US where two thirds of released prisoners return to prison in less than a decade. ... But. .... .. Cases like this exist. I believe that in cases like this. Where the guilt is not in question at all and the severence of the crime is absolute evil. I think that in cases like this every state should have a "Option B".
It shouldn't be death. That seems A. Too lenient for the people that deserve this and B. Too extreme in case it hits an innocent person. It should be rotting away in a prison cell. For the rest of your life. Luckily many places in this world might give a r*pist 25 years in prison but after those years he comes out in front of a judge who then just goes "yeah he ain't done yet, put him back in." ...
I (as a Canadian) had to laugh when he goes "look at you, you haven't even touched your doughnut!"
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Sam Gomez2021-12-23 02:33:54 (edited 2022-06-17 23:23:58 )
I'm a pretty empathetic person, probably too much if I'm being honest because I even tend to almost feel bad for people in bad situations even when they put themselves in those situations and I try to think about their circumstances and what could've been going on in their head. But people like these deserve what they get and then some, genuinely sickening.
very interesting to see michael vs terry. terry was completely distraught and felt very guilty according to the other detective. and then looking at michael, who's only worried about what will happen to himself... worried about losing the rest of his life.... does he not realize tori lost her life to him? we are just lucky tori didn't have to live with the trauma she would have sustained from that experience. michael however deserves to rot in prison.
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Christina W2021-12-23 16:19:33 (edited 2021-12-23 16:21:09 )
The detective is also repeating things over and over,after hearing things a certain amount of times people tend to believe them. (ie: "you've made mistakes right?" , "I don't think you're a monster." ,Etc.)
Why did the girl do what she did? Why not call the cops at Home Depot? The innocence of a child is such a beautiful thing, and people who use that have a special place in hell.
I couldn't be a chef as I hate heat, I can't be a pilot cause I'm terrified of planes, I couldn't be a soldier because I'm a bit of a coward and I couldn't be a detective because I'm not entirely sure I could sit in a room with a pedophile murderer without wanting to inflict extreme violence upon them. I respect them for keeping their cool.
Major kudos to the detective able to talk as if raping an 8yo was like getting a parking ticket even when saying specifically this situation is much more dire than getting a parking ticket.
Man shook his hand as if out of respect and not like those hands had killed a child recently, like a sympathetic guy happening across someone in normal, unfortunate circumstances.
That's why pencils have erasers.. we all make mistakes
Dude has some serious composure skills considering he's talking to a dude who abducted, raped and killed an 8 year old Thats the most Canadian detective moment I've ever seen
This investigator is so professional and good at his job. There is nothing more frustrating and that can anger me quicker than someone denying something after being presented and told the evidence contradicting their story. He is really good.
I'd be terrified of meeting the owner of this channel at a party or bar lol. Imagine being verbally vivisectioned by a criminal psychologist within seconds of meeting them LOL
This investigator is great. Guy obviously wants to curl up in a ball but investigator just keeps talking and keeps the guys brain moving and beating him down. Great stuff.
54:48 The big sigh he gives once the the detective leaves the room after reminding him he was gonna spend the rest of his life in a pokey little room like that, brilliant lol
Main interrogator's speech reminds me of Mr. Mackey, but it's a really minor thing to nitpick about, given he was able to fill that much time with almost no responses from them perpetrator.
I just hope that for the rest of his miserable life. He feels all the terror and fear he put upon that poor child. Who in the hell wants to have sex with an innocent child. And then kill the child so brutally. And the woman who went along with it. How did she have the heartless action to walk that child to her assault and death. You Never know what people are thinking behind their smiles!
This is actually the right thing to do, listen to your lawyer and stfu, if you are innocent and want to help, make sure your lawyers are around to advice. Educational video :thumbsup:
Breh props to that investigator having to sit there and reassure him knowing full well what he did but still having to be the way that he was with him just so he could do his job
Wtf does āsentenced to life in prison without the possibility of paroleā¦ for 25 yearsā mean? That in 25 years theyāll be up for parole? Both of them? After what they did?
The girl too, how did he get her involved, the promise of drugs?, she must have the worst addiction ever to get involved with that guy, what an a$$hole. I think child murderes are the lowest in prison too
Possibility of parole in 25 yrs. Hmm, let's see, that little girl would be about 33 and maybe have started her own family with a little girl of her own. When these demons are out enjoying their freedom her mother will still be putting flower's on her grave!
Dam I wish we could've got the last 45min or so when the detective was lighting him up I wish I could hear it un-edited, you know the cop was talking good shit to him
The fact the two mins can chance your whole life course is so messed up bless this beautiful girl and I mean she was legit beautiful she had her whole life in from if her and a grown Ass man took it away in just to get off like how the fuck can people be like this he already had that girl Terri iu am sure he could have got off with her the fact he hurt this child to fell pleasure makes me wish all sex offenders where out in genpop cuz even the hardcore murders know doing this kinda stuff is a big ass violation of lifeās common sense .
I've seen many of these where the guy was actually innocent and the cops were just lying so I assumed this was the case here too. I was getting Pretty pissed at the cops for making up all those lies. Imagine my shock when I learned this guy was actually guilty. I never changed teams so fast in my life.
I really wonder what goes through a detective's head when he is talking to a piece of shit like this and how he keeps his calm. I don't think I could do it.
This investigator is tremendous. How he manages to just keep incessantly talking in the necessary manner is remarkable, and then he also tosses in some great one liners while getting his man. True legend.
Absoloutly, I struggle to hold my own in a normal conversation with no pressure. This guy has to keep talking all the while keeping the pressure on in just the right way.
For those interested, after sentencing McClintick claimed indigenous heritage to get herself transferred to a minimum-security indigenous "Healing Centre" in Saskatchewan, which is essentially a giant spa where violent offenders are handled with kid gloves because of so-called "systemic racism." Canada's Conservative Party fought to have the transfer reversed. Their motion was defeated by the Liberal party, 100% of which voted to keep the accessory to child rape and murder out of federal prison. The resulting public outrage forced Ralph Goodale, then Minister of Public Safety, to unilaterally reverse McClintick's transfer and return her to federal prison. McClintick is not indigenous.
This guy is a monster and full of evil but isn't the cop saying other cop don't want the killer talking to him coercion? If the killer admired everything at that point the case be throwed out?
They should never come out of prison. Ever. I dont care how much she regretted it and cooperated. They got caught and that is it. I also wish they could send Michael to a prison like San Quentin California. He would be truly facing justice there.
Tori was killed across from my dad farm. It was actually mennonites that found her laying in a rock pile in their field. They phoned to police but asked them to be confidential because they dont like any form of attention. It broke all of our hearts to know she was so close to us when killed. There was a house directly across from where it happened. Just an awful tragedy. May she rest in peace
"I just don't feel comfortable talking about it." What an absolute POS. Literally makes me sick to my stomach. Imagine the terror that poor little girl felt and this guy is holding onto a blanket like a wimp because he's 'not comfortable'.
Hes going through opiate withdrawal, so hes sick, weak, cold, shaky, and emotionally vulnerable, which makes his blankie clutching and sniffling even more satisfying.
Damn I really respect these interrogators. On top of having to emotionally distance themselves from the knowledge that they're speaking civilly to people who have raped and murdered innocent people, they also have to remember all their training, run their mouths for hours, and fight off the fatigue from the effort they're exerting both physically, mentally, and possibly emotionally.
That was Smith, the guy that made the ex colonel of the army in Ontario talk about his killings. I have much respect for the man. He was a guest not long ago on the behavior panel.
@Natasha Peeters I love him! Saw the one about Russell Williams and fell right in love with Jim Smith. He is one amazing man. He broke Russell. It was incredible to watch
@kaczan3 What would be weird about that? It's just saying to stop being a child (ie boy or girl) and to start being an adult (ie man or woman). I don't get why people get so upset by that.
@Harley Quinn Wahh, glad I'm not alone. It's not that I hate it or anything, it just feels random to bring up sometimes. Hopefully no one is too upset with me ;_;
@PixelTrain closedM that's for sure. But the detective ironically asks him to explain without giving him the time. I'm not sure if the detective is just like that: most probably it's a technique he uses to drive him on the edge.
@Tina Takapoui hi, he explains in the video if you remember that he keeps talking precisely for that reason. He wants to gain more evidence via his obvious body language and unchanging demeanor when presented with the events described (which of course include the abduction, sexual assault, and murder). There is nothing he could get out of him that could damn him faster to hell
I can never understand how these officers manage to stay so calm. Many of them have kids of their own and yet they seem to go through these things with zero emotional investment. True professionalism.
They have emotional investment most of the time. It defends on the individual but when working for the law you gotta be cool. My grandpa was part of the NYPD and he said the reason he drank himself half to death was because he couldnāt cope with trying not to lose his head any other way.
It really does mess with them, I've talked with/listened to two child abuse prosecutors on multiple occasions. Right now he's doing his job, but the stuff he sees will follow him home
I like the "Bad Cop"... "I'm sitting in this Room for Tori. Making you squirm, put you though some of the grief you put her through... That's why I'm in here Mike. And I'm having a good time." He has the calmness I wish I had
stephan Roller2019-11-08 03:16:43 (edited 2019-11-08 03:19:31 )
I love how at 4 and a half minutes into their interview, he casually says ā... my job is to assess the threat level and I K N O W Y O U Rā E R E S P O N S I B L E F O R O N E D E A T Hā
Earned every bit of that verbal beatdown Hopefully some corrupt CO's forget that he is not supposed to be in gen pop down the line? ššššš¤š¾šÆ
ACE A Detective Smyth is my favorite interrogator. He's the one that called it his security blanket. Hahaha. Watch the other videos he's in, he knows how to get to these evil killers. He did a good job making Russell Williams confess also.
This may sound insane, but what if he is innocent and the real criminal had threatened him with the death of his family or some shit if he talked? I think it's unlikely but it just might explain his annoying silence
@19zuzi82 That's what Vlad "The Impaler" did. He would put the victims on a pole that I've read about the details of how they would live for a few days impaled. It's pretty nasty.
@Richie Schneider Yep. The living thing is a myth, tho. The live ones were wounded and bound to poles. The impaled were already dead or dead-to.be-REALLY-SOON. Typical intimidation/shock factor + possible personal sadistic satisfaction of Vlad III. I visited his castle in Romania, it's dauntingly beautiful. I know this because I know all I can know about Psychopathy, Serial Killers, Criminal Psychiatry/Psychology & co. I have a minor in Forensic Criminology. But thank you, it's nice to know that somebody else is just as a weirdo as I am for knowing this things!!! š¤£š¤£š¤£
@19zuzi82 That's really cool; I have been wanting to visit the Sedlec Ossuary for a long time. I'm definitely interested in the macabre! I'll try to find where I saw this, but I specifically remember them talking about how the poles would push up the victim's diaphragm.
It's funny; I remember when I was in high school my favorite section at the book store was always True Crime. I like trying to figure out the little steps that people take to go from normal person to necrophilic serial murderer.
@Richie Schneider Are you...me??? lol Also, 11/10 on the Sedlec Ossuary, it's amazing. We have a few here in Italy as well, if you want to come and visit!
@19zuzi82 Lol this is a "Fight Club" Tyler Durden situation! I'm in USA, but it's cool to talk to someone with similar interests. I went to Germany twice, but that was a few years ago.
Sidharth Kumar Menon IN it seems highly unlikely especially since the first witnessed confessed to everything and itās backed by cctv evidence. Also the way he was responding seemed typical of someone thatās lying, shocked and doesnāt know what to say. He had way too many smart ass comments to have any fear about his actually family dying etc.
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I remember going to jail for the nite for possession. I was freezing with gym shorts and a tank top. I asked the officer for a blanket and he just laughed in my face. This was a holding cell.
@peachyevren she's not normalizing the crime like that, relax. Sickos like this guy exist regardless of how you want the world to work, to apprehend them before they commit a crime is difficult, she's just highlighting how an act as innocent as forgetting something and going to go get it led to poor Tori in this particular situation being subjected to what she was and then killed.
I know her mom taught her not to follow strangers. But as a mom of two girls I am so frightened right now. The number one thing to teach them is to say āIāll tell my mommy!ā if any stranger comes up to them and give them a toy phone that looks real. š¤·āāļø
@Horizons Skylight sadly , he was transferred in a healing rehabilitation house , with lowest security and is able to have weed and drugs . Our justice system is broken
I really hate that the American justice system relies on the brutality of inmates to dole out punishment. Subjecting America citizens to rapes and beatings is fucked up and inhumane. We need to bring back the gallows and the firing squad. Stop wasting money housing monsters and just kill them off immediately. It's ultimately the more humane thing to do.
Joseph Michael Staline, Michael Hitler (adolph was a second name), Michael Capone, and so on...Michael Harvey Oswald also, people forget about him. truely alarming.
Lmfaoooo the coalition of Michaels have come together to condemn these dangerous Michaels who do not represent the true nature of the Michaelist Michaels
Considering how common the name "Michael" is, I'd say it's really not that surprising that many criminals have that name. A lot of them are named John, James, Christopher, and other common names too.
@Esther X Canadians are stereotypically overpolite, disappointedly pointing out to a hungry murderer that he's barely touched his food just sounds like a really Canadian thing to do, idk how else to put it lol
Wanna know something. I think I lived next door to a predator. I remember when my guardian was standing and talking to him across the fence and I was 8 years old too. He looked at me and smiled and said he was going to marry me. I felt so creeped out. My guardian just laughed. One day after school I was walking home and I heard a honk and it was him and he slowed down and offered to drive me home. I declined and he kind of still insisted. The reasons why I declined is because I was creeped out and also I was quite capable of walking home since my house was just around the corner. Well my neighbour went and told my guardians and asked why I wouldn't get in his truck and couldn't trust him. He was offended but i thought i was in trouble for hurting his feelings. Instead they applauded me and in the same breath told me i could trust him. It gives me the creeps til this day. Predators are everywhere and parents need to be more vigilant with their children safety. Also teach your children to follow their instincts. It could very well save their lives. This is just to sad. Never let your guard down...ever.
can i just point out how funny it is that a huge and extremely crucial aspect of these interrogations fully rely on rolly chairs?? like the closing distance tactic is super important for psychological pressure and the only way for this to be done subtlety is with rolly chairs hehe
I almost think that the detectives deliberately get chairs that squeak or groan when leaning back on them 40:28 or moving, just to unsettle the suspect, or make a point. Unnerving. Lol
I imagine a 5 minute family guy sketch where the interrogator is trying to shuffle a heavy non rolly chair forward... only to fall over and do the leg thing
@Daniel Swithenbank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeOugJPnDAM sons karate instructor had been molesting him for years, and kidnapped him eventually. When the son was found and returned he told his father everything that had been happening. I would've reacted the same way
Iād much rather be the ābad copā here. Iād have a really hard time pretending not to find this monstrosity disgusting. He cries and hides under his blanket, but he showed no mercy for that little girl. I definitely enjoyed watching the ābad copā role here.
If you'd been doing this for as long as this man clearly has and gone through the same education and training it would be a lot easier to be as relaxed as he's being.
@A-Bomb Mori oh, I donāt doubt that for a second. And he got his verbal licks in, so to speak, at the end of the interrogation. And the whole time I was watching that I was thinking āgood on him, Iām glad he got to tell this scumbag what he really thought of him.ā Make no mistake, I understood why the āgood copā detective had to do what he did, and I admire him for his restraint. I was merely saying that I would most likely be unable to show such restraint, but Iām not a trained interrogator, either.
and thats why you are not sitting there and investigate/judge about peoples behavior because you are biased by your emotions. You can't be "the bad cop" when you want to hear the murderer explaining his cause and reason why he did it. This might give him a shorter sentence since there is no more proof/evidence or statement that can be used against him in curt or in what kind of jail he goes to. Do you want a child murderer and abuser in shorter terms in jail than usual? go ahead. I don't want that
@Bloody Kastiel wtf?? you're taking the comment way out of context. what is your issue? The commentor was just saying how they were enraged by the actions of this disgusting man. your comment proved nothing
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Ryan Michalski2021-06-24 03:55:27 (edited 2021-06-25 19:42:42 )
Itās not so much as the bad cop as itās a tool used for interviews. The end goal is the same. The tools used maybe different from time to time. But if that dude needs to think Iām his best friend in the entire world to tell me what happened and possibly find the girl alive. Iām about to be best friends with a suspected murderer. This channel highlights some very basic tools used in interviews but the examples are like watching Michael Jordan make a foul shot. Itās just a foul shot but an expert makes it look effortless.
yeah, you do got a point. But on the other hand, the "good cop" reveals this weird facade the killers think they can gather any type of security, comfort, or validation. Showing they literally care about themselves, and are only upset that they're caught. Though bad cop will always be interesting.
I donāt relate to comments like this. Makes me think Iād be a good interrogator. I couldnāt imagine anything more fun to do in that scenario than play with their mind and get them to destroy their lives. The pleasantry seems easy with that goal in mind.
yeah if i was about to go to prison for life i wouldnt have much appetite lmao. But again i would never murder a child or any human being... So i think he deserves being uncomfortable.
God i dont even think of Krispy Kreme. I can make that happen. Fun fact: Charlize Theron ate all KK when she had to gain 30lbs for the role of Aileen Wuornos in Monster......cant argue with that reasoning....š
@Rainy T how can someone who isn't a psychopath go along with luring a little girl into a car, knowing what their boyfriend plans on doing to the little girl? Didn't she stab the poor little girl? Do you think psychopaths aren't able to act in certain emotional ways, in order to make their victims feel safe and not threatened?
@Jacob Lewis it was a tragic case and that man and lady are sickos, they knew they were done for. But the lady did share actual feelings, upon realizing how terrible everything turned out.. but the man who did it didnāt share any - thatās what makes a true psychopath.
@Rainy T you are technically correct but I just can't see how any woman could lure a little girl in like that, full well knowing what was about to happen to the little girl, and not have psychopathic tendencies. Not to mention her also stabbing the poor 8 year old girl.
She is even more horrible and involved in the crime than the video alone lets us believe. I copy pasted some comments below.
"For anyone that might be feeling an ounce of sympathy for this 18 year old crying her eyes out, it's worth noting that she later, in prison, confessed to delivering the hammer blows that killed Victoria. Don't spare her the rage you have for the man."
āDefence lawyer Derstine attacked McClintic's credibility during cross-examination, noting she had a history of violent incidents. McClintic stabbed one man, left her adoptive mother partially blind following an assault and put a small dog in a microwave when she was a child.ā
She did do something. She finished her off with the hammer. The emotions of the situation apparently inspired her to commit rather than stand aside ambivalent, the latter being more uncomfortable.
Empathy, after all, is only about how you feel. Thereās no reason for it to inspire only positive behavior. Usually this only means selective dehumanization of out-groups. (Youād go insane if you actually felt for everyone to whom you owed consideration.) In Terriās case, however, she directly killed someone in order to not have to feel for her.
@Black Rebel Oh, Iām not even remotely arguing that sheās in anyway a decent person. Just that empathy is overrated and often makes you a terrible person.
As to her leading the girl to the car, knowing full well what would happen, I take it that it was just all abstract for her at the beginning. That doesnāt mitigate anything. It just means she wrongly believed she could handle it.
@Great Minds101 but a genuine psychopath does not show any human emotions whatsoever. They can mimic it, sure, but they can't genuinely produce it. If she "broke" during that interview, she probably isn't a psychopath. She's sick, or maybe deranged, or definitely messed up, even a piece of garbage human being, but probably not a pyschopath.
@Jacob Lewis one thing people need to realize. Horrible people do horrible things. There doesnt have to have a mental issue to choose to do something like this.
I love it, I would play the bad cop. The guy has been playing all along the sad victim thinking it would work and then the bad cop says "Get off your security blanket and act like a man"
It's laughable, honestly. Seeing this guy's crime consume him completely to the point that he reverts to such childlike behavior. Disgustingly hilarious.
you are a bit naive here, the crime doesnĀ“t consume him at all, not for a single moment, only the fact he got caught does bother him, that is the way the psychopath mind works, zero remorse, zero empathy.
The child like behaviour is nothing but a smoke screen play designed to make you think he is having a hard time, he is only having a hard time having to face and listen to the officers while hungry, not because of what he did at all.
Someone also pointed out in the comments that heās detoxing off oxy during this interview, so his snivelling, nausea and blanket clutching is partly a symptom of that
The investigator saying at the end, that Tori was excited to have her friends over because her mom just redecorated her room, that just got me š Iām currently redecorating my daughters room and she talks every day about how excited she is to show her friends š
That investigator is a pro, he twists these peoples minds up like silly string lol. He did the Russell Williams interrogation too. Heās talented as hell.
uhh helllooooo? ringring this is the federal bureau of basedivation. please come meet us at the based department building with chad and sigma male memes. we have some seriously based allegations about you.
@J Leezy I think pedos getting life is pretty based/redpilled are you confused also since I canāt tell if some people are actually that dumb but itās based (on facts)
@YouCensored i was born in 1997 and dont follow social media jargon. so im not even sure what based means. like lil b the rapper? the based god? more than likely has to do with highschool if were being honest. there was a ton of shit me and the guys used to say that no one would really understand but after highschool and college your life isnt necessarily spent following obscure trends online.
@Matt B youāre using your age as being old as a reason for not understanding a pretty regular lingo. even though 24 isnāt old, and based has been around since you were 20
@Isabella Sun the comment i replied to was using the example of being old not understanding the saying, but i explained how im only 24 and i still dont know what it means, so yeah my whole point was that being young doesnt mean you know what it means
I donāt understand why people are being so riled up by the OP using the phrase āfucking basedā. I am 53 years old and have never heard of that term but my IQ level (of reasonably average) figured it meant āā¦ based on XYZā. Then I just did a quick google search, saw that I was right and suddenly Iām apparently current again š Relax people. Thereās lots of different ages watching these videos and everyoneās allowed to speak the way they want to as long as they stay polite! And, by the way, swearing is not impolite IMO!
@Sounds of a Silent Mind based on xyz? As in based on last nights dinner? Or based on the book? I don't think that's what it meant in this context. Being based has something to do with knowing the true purpose of things, or not being a sheep I think? I might even be wrong honestly
@hell I'd say most people asking about it aren't boomers tho. My step father might be a boomer and he doesn't even look at yt comments, it's prob mid 20 to 30 yeR Olds I'm 24 and I don't even get it. Lot of 0eople that aren't boomers don't follow this kinda shit
@SweetTea you said that wrong it's not "it's a dumb and irrelevant "saying" childish in fact" it should be "it's a dumb and irrelevant "saying", childish, in fact" I hope you realize that.
lil B based God is where it's from yall don't even know
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Lisa NYKHN2021-12-17 04:19:30 (edited 2021-12-17 04:20:12 )
@hell thank you for that explanation. I had no idea what that meant and nobody else explained it like a normal person. I'm 34, and I'm not up to date on new lingo. I just don't use the language when I speak and don't care to. Whether writing something online or in person.
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Dark Knight 132021-12-17 06:04:49 (edited 2021-12-17 06:09:00 )
@JB It was the detective (Jim Smyth) that interviewed Terry Lynn McLintock who interviewed Williams.
@Otto B. Kilt are you alright man? 24 doesn't actually qualify as a child. Your talking to someone who plays nerdy video games, who reads high fantasy and sci fi, I design and construct electrical systems, I like building computers. I'm the last type of person that would say whatever you just said. I don't follow weird trends and slang like some kid in high-school. I'm a drug addict gone sober, I've seen plenty of shit that would take the child out of me. Not gonna try and demean, or assume things of you like you just did to me either. Thanks for the assumptions.
At first glance, someone might think he feels bad since he's crying, but listening for more than half a second shows that he's crying for no one other than himself... He's just sad that he got caught, not because he assaulted and murdered an innocent little girl.
Yeah hes dopesick its the worst feeling in the world your hot your cold your eyes water you start sniiffling runny nose your legs wont stop moving like spiders are crawling all over you and thats just the start of it!!
He's probably crying purely from the withdrawals. I can imagine he is completely numb to the situation he is in.
Imagine you are falling out of an airplane without a parachute and you suddenly realise you are missing an arm. Any normal situation you will be freaking out about your arm. But here you are only thinking about your impending fall.
This is what this man is feeling, the cop is his arm and the withdrawal is his fall. That explains why he is also so quiet and does not respond. He, in his own mind, has bigger and more important things to worry about at the moment.
@Sara T Jim Smyth IS a legend, perfect description for him! Bernardo and Williams he also interrogated (shows just how good he is at what he does). He said the PERFECT š words to that POS right before he left the room. That had to feel great for him, as it did for me too! Jim Smyth š
@That Guy thats correct, but I don't believe he is a psychopath
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Actual Goblin2019-11-07 01:52:55 (edited 2019-11-07 01:56:42 )
@louise It's sort of up in the air. Even after this interrogation, we don't know a whole lot about this guy to make that call.
It would appear he uses the blanket for emotional security (as Detective Jim Smyth points out), which a psychopath would not need. My bet is that Jim Smyth was just trying to verbally slap him a little when he called him a psychopath.
Funny enough though, Jim Smyth has in fact interrogated a psychopath before: Russell Williams.
The detective who called him a psychopath wasn't implying a clinical diagnoses..he was just disgusted, exhausted and done with the guy, understandably so .diagnosing psychopathy requires quite a bit of background investigation etc, no way any of us could determine that from this video.. just glad it seems to have ended justly
Seriously, I only knew Jim Smyth from the Colonel Williams interrogation (obviously had mad respect for him after that). But seeing this one just cemented him as the GOAT.
@TehSatisfaction yep. It's called science and does more good for the world than repressing the thoughts and feelings by avoidance. So in short such conversation is a good thing.
Sara T I like when Detective Smyth just stares at this psycho making him nervous. Hahaha. I also liked when he said he's having a good time putting him through grief. Detective Smyth also did a really good job interrogating Russell Williams. IMO he's the best interrogator in all of these videos.
Ive seen many many Canadian detectives interogate and unlike americans they not supposed to lie to the suspects but theese guys are super effective super professional they should b the model for the world
Kevin gable Gable an IQ of 90 is solidly average. What is this, insult lite? Teh Satisfactionās initial comment had more insight than all the others in this thread combined. The rest was just beautiful trolling.
So, please see yourself out. And while youāre at it, 2018 wants their Logan Paul meme back, so if you could return it, thatād be great.
@Ellie #Putin&HisBishTrump š TinyPeePees And OMG, if Jim Can't Swim was Jim Smyth, I would die as well.. We can dream right? Seems somewhat unlikely, but the content is very insightful at least.
BLTN yes, Iām proudly gay all day for Jim. You should, too. And nooo, please nobody doxx Jim! I have a strong feeling that this Youtube channel could royally screw his real job. He doesnāt even use his own voice to narrate. We should just enjoy the enigma that he is, kinda like Banksy. Maybe he can do a face reveal once he retires š
He tortured an 8 year old child, doing unspeakable things to her, then cruelly ended her life and yet this monster's response to the question "what's your biggest concern now?" is "losing my life". The cruel irony behind this is astounding. I won't ever understand how "humans" like this exist. I won't ever be able to wrap my head around things like these happening.
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Were all like this
24 likesJust not allways to this extent
24 likesThis is lack of empathy at its finest.
83 likesA normal human wouldn't do to others what he wouldn't love to receive if he was at that end of the stick, but in the mind of these people the end of the stick will never happen to them. They don't feel the threat. They can't see a little girl as a person because is just "somebody else". Is not them. They can control somebody else's life and end it, it's not theirs.
When they cry, when they apologize, when they realize what they've done, they're in reality crying for themselves, they're apologizing with the hope in their heart somebody will show their human side and fragility, not just the monster. When they realize what they've done, in reality they've just realized that their free life is over and will be spent in jail, mostly in solitary confinement to protect them from improvised knives and brass knuckles.
I don't want to imagine how that little girl felt because is heartbreaking. I don't want to imagine how her parents have felt.
I just hope there's an afterlife for them where they will meet again. Poor little cub, rest in peace.
@Anonymous Anonymous the girl was the one who killed the child too
5 likesHurt people hurt people.
3 likesDuh
@007nadineL so profound
15 likessome idiots can't think past 5 seconds of the ramifications of their actions and unfortunately the innocent get caught in it
6 likesI feel the same. Sometimes I have to shut those thoughts out of my head because they will eat me up. There are so many selfless people out there but when I hear the people are also capable of doing something like this I really loose my faith in humanity.
15 likes@Moments "we're all like this" "not always to this extent." So you're saying we're all like him, even though we aren't like him bc we dont go that far? You really had to make another comment saying something that contradicts your previous comment bc it clearly wasn't true. Little to no empathy is very different to a good deal of empathy. Its not the same at all. No not ALL are this selfish, and disgusting. There are many people that actually care about others and hurting innocent people especially children. They wouldn't even want to think about those that do such things. So no not all are like this.
21 likesAnd "not everyone being like this to this extent" as you said, means you're unlike this, therefore contradicting your previous statement, bc it goes to show not eveyone is like this. Lmao.
@TheGardenForgottenByTime evil people = normal
1 like@TheGardenForgottenByTime Anonymous Anonymous must have got banned his comments are gone. He was a troll responding to everyone's comments with the same BS.
1 likeIt was the woman who lured the kid that also killed her and disposed of the body she was so open with the police as she was hoping to pin it all on him and get away with the rest of it
2 likesMe neither, pray for this world sister. š¤ā¤ļø
0 likes@Moments speak for yourself.
3 likes@Moments āallwaysā?
1 like@Moments You even quoted yourself being wrong!
2 likes"They" belong in prison. Ain't no kids in prison for them to abuse.
0 likesAfterwards he caused over 3 million people to watch this cop talk for an hour solid
1 like@Moments Well said. We all do understand Mike, truly. We just don't all know that we do. Or it scares us, so we ignore it or pretend we don't. But we all do. That doesn't mean we all will do what Mike did, far from it, it just means that Mike wasn't special or different, he just was just given conditions that caused him to have perverted and delinquint tendencies. It could have been anyone. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be punished, either - just like he cannot help but be what he is, we cannot help but remove him from society. It just is what it is. Nothing special or incomprehensible, just sad.
0 likesWas the lacerated liver mentioned as part of Toris injuries due to the sexual assault? Jesus Christ, knowing thereās people like this out there in the world, makes me hope and pray that there is a hell.
0 likesProfessor Robert Sapolsky has some good insights
0 likesits called mental instability
0 likes@Moments The border between dark and light runs along every human heart, and the dark pit reaches all the way to hell.
0 likesGood thing is Ontario doesnāt have the death penalty so the other prisoners can punish him all they want
0 likesAll people who prey on innocent children would want the same thing. Majority of these monsters are hidden in plain sight, so when they do get caught, they literally don't know what to do except further deny it no matter what evidence there is.
0 likes@Clinton Leonard well that's wrong
0 likes@seƱor pepper I am sure you feel like you have free will, so I know it is hard to accept, but you don't.
0 likes@Moments we are not like this
0 likesāIn reality, no food was comingā - this made me laugh out loud. This one really upset me, and so I was caught off-guard. I just love the idea of this consummate professional asking over and over and over if he wants some food until he says yes, only to piss off and leave him. It seems almost childish.
326 likesAlso, I like to think Iām above wishing harm on others, but Jesus this guy. I hope heās getting battered in prison. Nothingās too bad for him
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Come on, mike, you havenāt eaten your doooughnut!
11 likesImagine being professionally petty while punishing the worst of the worst. Pretty based..
9 likesWatching Rafferty whimper and whine in his piss blanket after brutally robbing Tori of everything she couldāve experienced in life made me want to jump through the screen and pummel him into a stain on the floor. Canāt believe these detectives managed to carry on the way they did, super professional
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it makes me so sad and angry at the same time. Angry at the fact that this guy acts like hes some bulliying victim or something and sad for the fact that an 8 year old had to go trough this
15 likesA stain on the floor. Well said Manda!!
7 likesi wanted to turn the volume up........
0 likesI swear to God these interrogators are superhuman.
3 likesAll the respect in the world to them, I couldn't do it
1 likeYeah heās wilin
1 likeMe an you both. It was his ONLY chance to muster whatever dignity he had in his psyche and yet he sat there sniveling like a bitch. āYou donāt care about me.ā Expecting the detective to say āoh I DO care about youā.
0 likesI mean MAN UP and say āI have a problem. I commuted the ultimate sin and will face my punishment like a man and spend the rest of my life seeking forgiveness.
I can't imagine luring a child to her death and her abuse for her boyfriend. Her boyfriend is a disgusting monster but she's no better
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She did something awful but she's obviously better
15 likes@Lena Pretty sure someone in the comments a while back talked about it being later found out that Terry (Terri? Teri? Tery?) beat Tori to death. Could be wrong, but pretty sure that's what was typed out. So no, not better at all
50 likes@Lena fix your damn compass.
48 likes@Lena You're even worse than both of them with that compass lmao.
26 likesShe could have been abused by him herself. Absolutely not an excuse for what she did, but a possible psychological explanation.
31 likes@The real Baimon are you reacting to what Iām actually saying or getting mad that Iām offering any explanation besides sheās a psychopath?
3 likes@Hannah Gs i am stating that the comment you made is pure speculation. And that there's no evidence for even your speculated point to be real
5 likes@Hannah Gs that's why i replied saying , it doesn't matter, no need to speculate even, she got what she deserves, the end
3 likes@The real Baimon then donāt reply to me if it doesnāt matter to you. We are watching a criminal psychology channel. Wtf are you doing here?
8 likes@Hannah Gs ?, I was only criticising your comment because it seemed like you wanted to blame her kidnapping and helping abuse the kid (the woman who did it ) onsomehow being abused, when in reality they're both equally crazy and terrible people man.
11 likesThere's no need to defend either of them
@The real Baimon what did my comment say that made you believe I was defending her? Youāve given me about three different reasons for your vitriol thus far and none make much sense, tbh. Is it that what I said was conjecture, you donāt care why she did it, or that Iām somehow defending her? I think you got upset for no reason and now youāre backtracking to try and save face. Move on man.
8 likes@Hannah Gs my vitriolš bro just don't justify the crazy person, that's all.
6 likes@The real Baimon I didnāt, dumb dumb. Again, move on.
9 likes@Hannah Gs easy trigger
5 likes@Vino me?
0 likesI have as much sympathy for her as she did for Tori
3 likes@Hannah Gs My ex partner routinely left me a bloody mess after drinking sessions, but I never once wanted to kill a child with a claw hammer. Abuse or no, her smashing that child's skull in then breaking all of her ribs can NOT be excused by any amount of 'Abuse' by the boyfriend. Sorry.
5 likes@Steve Gad I have never once said that her actions could ever be excused by anything. I literally said āobviously not an excuse for what she did, but a possible explanationā.
5 likes@Lena noā¦no sheās not. She served that baby up to him. Sheās sheer evil
5 likes@Coridias someone said it in a comment? Did you happen to Google it before assuming it has any validity orā¦?
1 like@Coridias thank you!
0 likes@Nicholas Simon No problem, figured I would attempt to face check myself just to make sure I wasn't giving bad info. If I had, would've deleted my post
1 likeShe showed genuine remorse. Iād say that makes her a little bit better
1 likeYou realize we are talking about a girl, a female, who was groomed and hooked on drugs, right?
0 likesI LOVE how the second detective comes in and shoves the picture of Tori in his face & gets right to it. Michaels cowardice is absolutely astonishing considering what he had done to a 8 year old child. what a piece of sh...
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monsters like him feel brave and powerful when they know the person they're up against is smaller, younger, weaker than them. michael curled up in his little blanket like a coward because he was finally out of his element and realized he's not strong or powerful after all.
27 likesit
13 likes@nico would you be brave against someone who is stronger?
0 likes@voice of reason well iām not someone who would do that to a child so it doesnāt matter what i would do š!
10 likes@nico don't write comments then
0 likes@voice of reason youāre putting up lots of defense for this guy in the comment section almost like youād do something similarā¦ weird vibes brother āļø
19 likesGANGSTER
0 likes@nico will you be my special one
0 likes@voice of reason if the situation called for me to be brave against someone stronger than me, then i hope that i would
3 likesDont censor yourself, don't say "sh...", bastard doesn't deserve the courtesy.
3 likes@nico Tori was the strongest of them all, at least she put up a fight. Watch over us little angel
3 likesCan you imagine how the child must have felt? The pain, the fear, the regret. She was only 8. She wanted to see a puppy. I lose faith in humanity when I learn about cases like these.
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Don't worry, his fellow prisoners will make him suffer for everything he did to Tori. At least he'll get a small bit of what the monster deserves.
1834 likesLaBi it seems there are more evil people in the world than there are good. Demons amongst us...
312 likesSo sadš¢
81 likesThe horror.
62 likesShe did see a puppy - A sick puppy.
66 likes@A Miffed Cuttlefish ^^ Non parent here, but +1
33 likesYou're got the best comment in my opinion. It's such a horrific crime and he's a monster to do this to an innocent little girl.
195 likesThink of these two terrible people, then think of the mountain of people in law enforcement, the local community, and volunteers that work to make sure people like Mike and Terry don't prosper.
435 likesNow look at what that mountain of good people reduced Mike and Terry to. A pair of sniveling, blubbering messes, one of which fessed up to what she did inside of an hour, with the other so crushed by the guilt that he was in denial of the evil act he committed just to maintain his sanity.
That sheer force of good made that bit of evil tiny and weak, because there is always more good than evil in the world. Think on that next time cases like this get you down.
@Uncle Doctor you're so right
64 likesIt's even more devastating since its a fucking puppy!!!!! :(
16 likesAre you sure about that? Hell be in lock up 23hrs a day and by himself the other hour.... let's not forget Terri-lyn had a social life and girlfriend while in GVI Kitchener. Word of mouth says she's having the 'time of her life' in thereššš¤¦š¼āāļø
22 likesYou lose faith in Humanity even though his accomplice couldn't stand the guilt and turned herself in, thousands of people aided in the search, this video is about the criminal justice system punishing people who commit these crimes, and these comments are full of thoughts and prayers for the little girl and her family.
58 likesYet, you're focused on the one broken, despicable Human involved. Ok.
yeah horrendous mate each and everyday at anytime anyone could be that killer imagiine that goin thru your mind everyday humans are savages of the planet simple has
8 likesI cannot believe people like this exist, just horrible.
39 likesME AS WELL..
4 likesthats what i think about the most the poor child.
17 likesThis is also me evey time.. Always put my shoes to victim's relatives and thought something awful for revenge. But, then i brushed it off watching some cat videos after or thedodo. š world has really some darkness in it but never forget its the same world full of beautiful, kind and loving people also cats and other creatures.š
23 likesAs an human being with empathy itās too hard to believe anyone could do or even participate in such a crime to a young, innocent child.
44 likesFaith in humanity? Hah. These monsters are ruling the world.
25 likesit's evil. ephesians 6:12
5 likesPure evil in this world! Lord please keep evil away from children, what comforts me is that theyāre little angels now in paradise
18 likesWill S they say that to them to build repore, to gain trust, and to down play the severity of the crime. Itās to try to get a confession. Iām sure on the inside the detective was ripping his head off.
19 likeslike imposters on among us
6 likesI don't think we can imagine... Its too horrific. And I can't comprehend how can someone DO this...
9 likesI pray for Tory's soul to be in the happiest of places.
22 likes@TomsaiiLad doubt it, it's canada
2 likesLaBi - I know it,these things haunt me and I sometimes can't stand to be on the same planet with these men (and women). I can't believe these are real humans, and yet I can't come up with an appropriate name for them.
8 likesTomsaiiLad Itās Canada. There arenāt the types of people in prison as in the USA. Heāll live the rest of his life in an apartment in a prison. With rehabilitation classes, arts and crafts, tv, etc.
14 likesWe must teach our children to fear strangers. Evil is out there. Close.
20 likesThis isnāt humanity though. This guy at that point isnāt a human being.
13 likes@Holy Hand Grenades Let me know when it's Rafferty's turn.
4 likes@Fila Sophies Absolutely. Furthermore, we must talk with them about inappropriate behavior wherever it takes place, because unfortunately not all child-rapists are strangers.š
7 likesAbsolutely disgusting the last moments of her life that poor child :'(
7 likes@TomsaiiLad He wil probably get protected custody
1 likeThis breaks my heart š„ŗ
3 likesDonāt have any faith in humanity. Weāre animals.
2 likesFortunately they comprise a microscopically small portion of the population. You'll probably go through your life never seeing, much less meeting, someone with this kind of evil within them. The danger of mass media is that we can experience the primal human fear of "someone within the tribe is dangerous" by finding examples from a world of 7.5 billion people.
11 likesIt's despicable man...seriously...there is nothing lower in humanity than pedophiles
8 likesAs a mom, I dont know how I could go on knowing the gory details. I would feel so guilty i wasnt with her to stop what was happening. These stories make me hug my daughter and tell her how much I love her. I cant imagine what her poor parents are going through. ššš
9 likesunimaginable. Horrifying.
3 likes@Defqon you must live around a lot higher quality people than I do...
1 like@Defqon are you trying to argue? Jeez oh wiz. I'm not just talking about murderers, I'm talking about people in general. You don't have to be a murderer to be evil. How about broadening your perspective a tad ...
1 like@Defqon I mean if it has 20 + likes as you put it it seems to me a lot of people agree with my assessment. Could it be that maybe you're wrong? Wait, wait , wait, I forgot that's a complete impossibility. Please don't hang me your highness...
0 likes@Defqon no. I was simply pointing out that a lot of people have the same point of view that I do . Also, if you read my comment "very" carefully I didn't say that there was definitely more evil people in the world. I just said it "seems" that way. Key word seems....
1 like@Defqon The land down under a rock...
0 likesSad thing is, this is humanity.
3 likes@Defqon I'm not real sure how we ended up on Wild Kingdom but animals attack and kill because if they don't they don't eat. Not really the same thing. Unless of course you're a cannibal...
2 likesIt honestly makes my blood boil. Unfortunately you cannot trust people at all
4 likesI want to know why the hell her caretakers never told her to not follow strangers. Especially one who offered a puppy? That's the oldest trick in the book.
3 likes@Holy Hand Grenades My faith in humanity wouldn't be reinstated by watching people get tortured no matter how heinous their crimes were, and I'm terrified of people who do get their faith in humanity restored by that
7 likesTaylor Olivo Yeah ok. How about protecting her from degenerate culture ? Like rap, netflix, movies etc ?
1 like@Marco Vargas it's hard to handle this kind of shit, just like in life itself the bad sticks out more for a lot of people. i mean it's atrocious, it can be hard to focus on anything else. i have only seen pain n suffering in my life and consequently i focus on it way more too
3 likes@Azzy what's sad is that you're wrong. i mean i know about twenty people who have been molested, maybe you just mean this kind of violence but that trauma alone will ruin you.
5 likes@mystyk šļø You know twenty people who were molested as children after being abducted, and then murdered? No, you don't. Truth is that people like Michael Rafferty are rare and nothing to lose faith in humanity over. And the other truth is that you know a bunch of people who had bad dates or morning regrets and blamed their partner.
2 likes@Azzy Ā @AzzyĀ no. I'm 18 dude and i don't know all of them personally, i know a few personally. I'm talking childhood abuse, not some kind of weird unstable one night stand. i know it's absurd and i figured you'd accuse me of lying but i mean it's a fair amount of people i know for a fact it happened to. like i said i'm sure children are killed less often but people are molested more often than a lot of people think unless it's just my area for some reason.
2 likes@Azzy i literally said 'maybe you meant this kind of violence' and i was speaking only of csa. my comment takes like two seconds to read in full dude jfc
1 like@mystyk šļø I'm not accusing you of lying. I'm accusing (many of) them of lying, because it has in the last few decades become fashionable to be a victim. Of course, you may be interacting with people from a particularly bad areas as you say and I may be wrong. That is something to consider, and that kind of evil definitely exists in higher abundance in certain places, but I've seen so many examples of people exaggerating that I've become fully cynical about the topic and assume a lie until proven true.
0 likes@Azzy i think it's interesting how our perspectives differ based on our different observations, like i have rarely seen people lie about it but i know it happens more often than I actually see too. and faking it or twisting it to fit your narrative is horribly offensive to people who really have gone through it. not to mention what can happen to the accused. i mean it's horrible and to fake that for attention or satisfaction.. idk i always initially feel some kind of disgust even for this kind of skepticism cus it just isn't fair to actual survivors. but that's like entirely the fault of people who fake it. anyway i would remain impartial no matter what you see like unless it's blatantly obvious.. try to use ur best judgement cus i mean the actual survivors don't deserve this
2 likesIt's heartbreaking
2 likesYeah. People are the worst.
2 likes@Defqon Ok? š
0 likes@Defqon Have a good day dear. I pray that whatever you're struggling with that's making you put hate into the world goes away. I know that you want me to argue with you about imaginary things that you've created in your mind (which is what crazy ppl do), but I am not. I'm sorry about whatver you're going through in your personal life to make you carry on this way, but it's not normal. Grow up. Learn to love yourself. And others. Let's make the world a better place. Not add to the pain and ignorance. God bless you sweetheart. ā„ļø
1 likeThis is even evil for Satan.
1 likeI doubt 8 year olds feel 'regret' while they're being terrorized.
2 likes@Defqon Pfffft. When your life is threatened, you don't sit there and think deeply about 'regrets' - that's ridiculous. Esp. an 8 year old. She'd be too busy screaming and crying and trying to figure out how to escape.
2 likes@Defqon If you've been watching these, the psychologist clearly states over and over that the interrogation tactics to put fear into the perp are so their thinking will be clouded. Because people can't think when they are afraid. Especially a child.
1 like@Fila Sophies studies have been done that show even kids whoāve been taught to fear strangers will easily forget and follow a stranger. The same thing with gun safety. You can teach your children all you want, kids still sometimes do things they shouldnāt. Itās not the parentsā fault.
5 likesIt baffles me how some women help men commit sick shit like that.
9 likeshurts
1 likeI agree but i think the worst part of this was the rape and murder not the absence of a puppy
1 like@Chris Shockey i disagree . You just heat a lot about these monsters. but honestly if you walk through town everybody should apreciate the kindness of yellow human beings. I get your point im just saying
2 likesUncle doctor,your comment was so intelligent and enlightened. God please bless and forgive us all.
3 likesLost hope in humanity a long time ago. Be careful who u trust
6 likesThese arenāt humans.
1 likehow about your faith in a god?
0 likesGod bless her soul. š¤²
2 likesI don't imagine that stuff because it makes me overly furious.. If I got my hands on him I would literally pull his eyes out and make him chew them if he didn't pass out.
1 likewhen it comes to inflicting torture, there's no limit to the vileness and depravity humanity can conceive..
2 likes@TomsaiiLad I hope there is a lot of bar soap in that prison
0 likes@Uncle Doctor thank u
1 like@Buchi Chu same! These stories break my heart as well and as a new parent I absolutely cannot fathom how the parents must feel. I'd break down and probably never be able to pick myself back up. I hope this sicko gets his kharma
2 likes@ę„ęع .........................................???????
0 likesCases like this will teach you though world isnāt a friendly place youāre kids arenāt safe unless you teach them
1 like@Will S I could never lie so easily knowing what this detective did like- MMM NOPE, I get it's for the voluntary admittance but still not for me good on the detective for being good at his job.
0 likesI loose faith when the punishment for this is a life sentence when he should have been beaten to death or torn apart by wild animals. Let the victims family have the pleasure of taking him out any way they see fit. If it were my daughter, thats what I'd want to do. Ironically the system is the letdown here, not the perp. If killers like this were handled that way, you'd see a drastic reduction in little girls getting snatched up like this. In a way, you are preventing shit like this from happening by terrorizing a shit bag who does that. Then all the other shit bags who are thinking about it will have 2nd thoughts when they see an angry father take revenge for his dead daughter....
1 like@Chris Shockey - Thereās really not, watching videos like this just makes you feel that way, most of the people in the world are at least decent
1 likeDo not let these so called human piece of shiiiitttteeee defeat you. They wanna break you and be like them..no regards for others ,not to mention towards an innocent child.
2 likesI drew the line here..if such act was towards an adult you can butter, strech and argue that the victim somehow deserve what they got when they kick on old lady down the stairs to make you feel better..,know what i mean.? Anyways..
Stay strong and safe..!
Seriously...Poor little girl.
5 likesNo child in this world should ever feel what she felt in her last moments. RIP :(
Donāt lose faith in humanity. Lose faith in people with ASPD, considering that they are encompass 90% of violent offenders in prison.
2 likesI have an 8 year old daughter... I almost couldnāt watch this. Monsters walk among us š
4 likesI agree. Teach your children not to be trusting. Even towards family members and friends. There are a lot of predators out there and they donāt care about anything but their own sick agendas
4 likes@Buchi Chu I agree 110% with you. (110% is not a mistake, I really MEAN IT). I would offer myself to the parents FREE OF CHARGE to make them really suffer before they die!!!! When kids are hurt, I would have NO MERCY AND NO PITY AT ALL with these ... ''people''!!!
1 like@a speedingdrunk No, humans arenāt. Some people are awful, but they are few. The majority are good, and the way we know this is that the majority of people in the world find people like this to be abhorrent.
2 likes@TomsaiiLad He better not drop that soap
0 likesThatās not true otherwise the human population would dwindle to 1.
0 likesDamn when I become a father I'm gonna be one paranoid mf
3 likes@TomsaiiLad I hope Canadian prisoners treat guys like him the same way they do here in the US.
2 likes@Will S It's an interrogation strategy.
0 likesPoor little angel... What child doesn't want to see a puppy?
1 likeMe too
0 likesI was thinking the same thing. Iām not someone who easily tears up, but that thought alone really killed me.
2 likesRule 1, never put your faith in humanity
2 likes@TomsaiiLad That's true, which is why we want to make sure the people who goes to prison really deserves it. Which why interrogations like this is very important in cases where there is no evidence. In the past for the case of Jodi on this channel, or at least I think it was Jodi where the mother left her child to rot in the back of her parents car trunk, she was found not guilty.
0 likesYeah but I regain a little faith when I see the detective berating this piece of shit and letting him know that he's got hell to look forward too in prison.
0 likesI wrote this comment on the video, I just can't process this, it seems too disturbing to be real, my god, what that family must have went through, I just cannot fathom. This is just so twisted and I feel so twisted up inside about what that child experienced before her murder.
3 likes*This one made me want to throw up, I cannot imagine how much pain that child endured before that grisly gruesome death. I've had a really strong opposition to solitary confinement because of how inhumane it is and some people have been forced to endure it for decades which is essentially torture. That said, I feel like this demon deserves to be put into a cage too small to stand up straight or fully lie down with a blinking light that just serves to attract flies and moths and fed bread and water for the next 10 years, then throw him in general population so he doesn't miss out on the brutality of other criminals. Normally I'm cynical and just see murderers and thugs placing themselves above child molesters as a naked attempt to prove to themselves that they aren't the lowest of the low and that they operate according to some moral compass, while that's technically true I don't buy into them not being scum of the earth but in this one case thugs and murderers are objectively and absolutely above this monster and he shouldn't be deprived of learning that.
I know that rationally there are really good reasons that we have rights against cruel and inhumane punishments and that this impulse is ugly but damn my mind is so clouded with rage right now I can't fathom any of those reasons.
Edit: I also hold virtually the same sentiments towards Terri-Lynne, I don't believe in hell but if there were ever people who deserved it. Paul Bernardo and Karla as well.*
@Marco Vargas it's still fair to lose faith because this act happened. All the good will that came out after was positive, but it doesnt negate the event. What happened to this poor girl was a tragedy, and undermining someone's opinion on it is kind of ridiculous.
0 likes@Stephen Grigg We'll just ignore that you came here to undermine my opinion. Right?
0 likes@Uncle Doctor Gosh, thank you so much for this comment... I've been depressed for so long and often struggle to find the good in life, never thought to look at violent crime from this perspective. Although I do not know you, I know that you are a wise person. Thank you.
0 likes@Janek O you're welcome, I can't empathize with you but I can offer some more sage advice.
1 likeYou can drop everything and everyone you know right now. Your mother, father, brother, sister, extended family, friends, pets, co-workers and associates, you can leave them all behind and run. But the one person you will never outrun, is you. Life isn't about living, it's about living with yourself.
The good news is that yourself is also the one person you have full control over changing, can't do that with anybody else on the planet. Make peace with yourself, and do it by making yourself the best version of it that he/she can be.
It makes me so mad
2 likes@Chris Shockey That's because you dont learn about everyone who has never comitted crime, bruh.
0 likes@Chris Shockey I don't think thats true bad people maybe but evil like this is an albeit massively to large in its miniscule percentage of humanity. Which honestly I can't accept it being called humanity not while I am a human, but real evil like this is not what I believe is common then again how could I not distance myself cognitively from reality if that was the truth ..... I think its a crime that these things are allowed any human rights whatsoever tar and feather em or stockades ,fuck, i almost said crucifixion but ........i apologize just venting
0 likesI gain faith seeing so many good people work towards making the world a better place
0 likes@Chris Shockey no it is
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0 likesNo need to loose hope in humanity. You need to know people individually not as a whole because not everyone is the same.
0 likesI'll show you a puppy
0 likesThe actual sad thing is that the female who lured her knowing what would happen is not in jail
2 likesWhat regret
1 like@Fila Sophies yes teach your children fear. Great parenting.
0 likes@Hello There So you teach your kids to not fear anything? Great parenting.
1 likeSo heart broken
1 likeI honestly don't want to have children because of this. Hearing those stories is enough to break my heart and I can't imagine their families feel and suffer.
3 likesAs the father of a 3 year old bubbly little girl who is always so full of life, cases like these absolutely break my heart. I couldn't imagine my baby not coming home one day because some sick bastard decided to take her from this world.
2 likes@TomsaiiLad nah they are in Canada, had he not murdered her heād be out by the end of the decade.
0 likesĆtt
0 likes@Uncle Doctor I wish I could maintain a thinking like that, seems worth it :(
0 likesIn cases like this, I feel parents need to stop letting their kids come home alone and pick them up...
0 likesVery important to drive home the ānever talk to strangers ruleā¦.ā my parents exposed me to true crime and child crime at a very young age and this protected me on the one instance I was nearly kidnapped by two strange white men. Even as a 7 year old boy my exposure to the reality of the world saved me from whatever those two were planning. In this case I wonder if they had those talks with herā¦.RIP
0 likesItās honestly hard to deal with the rage over this senseless cruelty
2 likes@Chris Shockey if there were more evil people than good then civilization would crumble and cease to exist. We arenāt perfect, but weāre good overall
0 likesš¢ I know Iām crying. This is so sad. Iām going to teach my future kids about this stuff. My mom told us when we were kids about Samantha runion she was a 5 year old girl who was kidnapped and raped and killed. We never forgot that story. One day my friend and I were walking on the road and a guy offered to give us a ride and we ran away. It was pouring rain and of course we wanted the ride but this story stuck in my head.
0 likes@Will S he said that to get his trust bro, come on now
0 likes@TukTukDriver Thatās obvious but it doesnāt sound right either way.
1 likeThat's how it goes in the business
0 likes@Parkour that's what empathy is lol. Life is much easier without it though
0 likes@Alexandra G_1994 don't know the context, could have been forced for all we know, guilt doesn't matter that's pretty pathetic lol
0 likesThe fact that this is such abhorrent behavior that most humans violently oppose should be all ya need. The fact that occasionally some skid steps out and it gets highlighted shouldn't paint anyone's picture of our pathetic species. Now, the many ways we're collectively driving ourselves and other species extinct, sure. But not this.
0 likesThere's things like THIS that happen in the world that makes the devil turn away in disgust
1 likeAn adult cant share the feeling, as adults we understand what was happening even by words, a child has no idea what is happening. That feeling would be a mix of fear of unknown and being in a completely strange territory with strangers that as adults, again, we cant replicate.
1 likei cannot even imagine the fear. terrifying in itself.
2 likes@TomsaiiLad i honestly look out for prison stories of these people being stabbed or if were lucky worse. Just so i can regain faith of karma
0 likesi really hope the prison soap doesn't have a string on it
0 likes@Alexandra G_1994 sheās the one who actually killed her. They are both unbelievably sick and evil.
0 likesWhat took you so long?
0 likesNever lose faith L.B.
0 likesThis case seriously broke meā¦ my heart dtill hurts knowing that little girl trusted rhat woman , and she led her to her demise .. i hate her just as much as i hate him ā¦ only thing that makes me feel bettee is knowing his life is going to be miserable in prison , and hes going to get stabbed and fucked up and ask to be in solitary the rest of his life and eventually hang hinself ā¦ and thats getting off easy ā¦
1 likeI want to know where the kids mom was when they took her from a freaking Home Depot? Young children should be glued to you where ever you go. You donāt see any animal in nature not being around their children.
0 likesEven Jesus said that those who harm the little children would be better off tying a heavy weight to their leg and jumping into the sea. I absolutely hate pedophiles and child abusers. I donāt use the word HATE lightly, either. They donāt deserve to share the planet with us, and I pray as we move forward as a planet we can increase the severity of their punishment.
0 likes@TomsaiiLad He will and has paid. Prob deceased at this point or wishes he was
0 likesYou lost faith in all humanity ? Because of 2 messed up people? That's like hating all cops because some are bad.
1 like@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected I think the woman took her outside of her school, then took her to the parking lot of a Home Depot.
0 likesWait till you hear about Turkish people .
1 likeI have an 8 year old right now. They are so innocent and fragile. I couldn't imagine someone capturing and hurting him. Those poor parents have to live with this forever.
1 like@Chad Travis Dude itās so sad. Buy wtf kind of school letās an 8 year old child get in a strangers car ? Also what parents letās their 8 year old walk home from school. Sighā¦
0 likes@Patryk wie Itās just them though. If you want to see a broken, greedy, corrupt and immoral race of beings look no further. The way we human beings live and created this society is absolutely pathetic. Human beings suck so hard.
0 likesIt probably wasn't that bad
0 likesMans has 17gb of cp bruh this man's hella weird
0 likes@Will S yeah, I donāt know how these investigators do it. I couldnāt keep a straight face and would find it hard to use the rapport building techniques. Fucking disgusting individuals.
0 likesI just think she never even got the chance to regret. Like she could have never known based on her age and experience. This is one of the saddest murders heās covered and it breaks my heart that millions of children today experience this still
1 likeI don't understand how anyone can kill a child & live with themselves. To steal from that little girl the life she was suppose to have - her friends, her high school graduation, her first-love, her first-paycheck... to snuff-out all that promise & potential for a fleeting moment of... what? As an atheist, I regret not believing there is a hell for them to burn in
0 likesI know its heartbreaking to hear what that poor little girl went through. This animal deserves to be put to death including that pos who helped kidnap her. May she rest in paradise.
0 likesShhit LaBi you comment just made my evening so sad ... it really brought me to tear thinking from the childs point of view. Why is there people like that in this world.
0 likes@Chris Shockey chris, your remark is rather stupid. if you relieve think that's true, go outside in the middle of the night and count how many people walk by without murdering you, I'm telling you it's a lot higher than the people who would. 90% of people in society aren't sick minded like this.
0 likesEven worse is knowing for 100% sure that somehow somewhere, this child rapist and killer has his own defenders on the Internet along with those who deny the fact of what he done.
0 likesI know it makes me cry when I watch these too. š
0 likesMankind best solution still doing everyday is by doing this š And mumbling about fictional Word about something something in above them Even though it's just space dust up there
0 likes@Dee Teezy heās been moved to medium security
0 likesYeah, let's just imagine what she felt...for personal reasons...
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0 likes@Netizen bro wtf
0 likes@Cristo Peloso um. No. How?
0 likes@Stormy Sheppard sus
0 likesThat's what this monster is missing....empathy!
0 likesThe lady who led her to that fateā¦..š¤¬
0 likes@Thomas O'Donnell Killing is awful. Killing a CHILD is unthinkable. at least it should be. and the other thing they did to herā¦. I am DISGUSTED.
0 likes@TheBigTom wait what??? she is not in jail???
0 likes@roh_gamu thatās what i do not get. Why did 5he school let her leave alone? why was the girl terri allowed to take her? arenāt there suppose to be people making sure only designated people pick the children up?
0 likes@Maya Being angry at monsters like these and still not irrationally finding fault with our entire species are not mutually exclusive. Go for a walk, you seem high strung.
1 like@Isabel Where did I say that I felt bad for her? Have you all skipped reading and comprehension classes entirely?
1 like@Marco Vargas the part where you said she TURNED HERSELF IN. no she did not. she was in custody and either someone else recognized her in the video OR MORE THAN LIKELY she thought she could get out by telling on her partner in crime.
0 likes@Marco Vargas lol you're the one pressed because you feel the need to correct people's feelings of empathy and take their words of it at face value. Nothing's irrational about losing faith in humanity when you see these things, you just had to be such a nitpicking virue signalling guy who calls people out for being emotional
0 likes@Marco Vargas of course they know there are still good people. That's a given like wtf
0 likes@Uncle Doctor this is such an underrated comment. Always look for the helpers. There is so much wrong and evil, but look for the helpers.
1 like@KevinShinwoo maybe they did, but we are often warned about strangers and strange men, not specifically strange women. Which is what makes this case a perfect example of teaching your children that women are not safer than men. PEOPLE can be dangerous
0 likesThe fact we all find it so so horrendous proves humans are basically good. I hope
2 likes@Sam Antha exactly šÆ
0 likesThis is the exact reason it is so important to make sure your child learns to never trust strangers at a very early age. This is just tragic.
0 likesMans world
0 likesWait you still have faith?
0 likes@TomsaiiLad h
0 likes@Chris Shockey I feel you on that, unfortunately :(
0 likes@TomsaiiLad That won't bring the girl back unfortunately.
0 likes@Marco Vargas thoughts and prayers, mean nothing to the people affected by something like this. Apart of you dies when something like this happens.
0 likesUnfortunately theres people who dont understand the endless devastation something like this case causes until they get a taste of something similar, and alot of the time that event doesnt happen and thats good because from personal expierence i wouldent wish that suffering on anyone with a good conscience.
yup
0 likesI couldn't even read half of what you wrote So NO!!!! But I hope this Bastard fears for is life ever second he's there.
0 likes@TomsaiiLad that offers little comfort. Iāll admit itās nice to know heāll be paying for his actions but it doesnāt bring Tory back. I have two girls and if this happened to one of them it would absolutely destroy me.
0 likes@TomsaiiLad dont drop the soap
0 likesSo unbelievably sad. All she wanted to do was pet an imaginary puppy š
0 likesThatās too sad to even comprehend- I hope there is a heaven for this sweet girl. RIP angel
0 likesThat broke me
0 likesI totally agree with you.
0 likesI hope it is reassuring to see people work so hard and professionally to take serve justice to these sickos
0 likesHalf way I can relate, I was 8 when I got raped. I wasn't killed though, but back then I wish I was. I can't understand how interrogators can do their job so well. I'd never be able to go to a child rapist and say "mistakes happen". The only mistake was his birth. The only mistake is him being alive. I wish sweet death to this child rapist, all child rapists. But torturous death.
0 likesHumans caught him. Humans will punish him. Humanity will make mistakes. Humanity will stumble. Humanity will fall. But we will get back up. We will keep going. We will try to make it right.
0 likes@Fron Thal the fact that humanity can only "punish" crimes instead of preventing them shows humanity isn't really that humane at all
0 likes@Will S he said that as part of a strategy lol
0 likesSame
0 likesYou havenāt already
0 likesHe will be dealt with in prison if thats any consolation
0 likes@TomsaiiLad yup finish him for Xtra food tray
0 likesI hear what you say. Fortunately the world is full of people who would give their lives to save a child. At least that's what I think and get hope from.
0 likesI keep saying that we human beings are the most dangerous creature on earth.
0 likes@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected Speak for yourself.
0 likesThe thing to remember is humans are animals evolved from Apes with 'Possible intervention?' Anyways look at how animals savagely kill each other for food, You would think we as humans are better than animals but; fact is some of us are still animals and have throwback Genes inside us. I personally would love to get my hands on this guy and do what he did to the little girl to him! (Besides you know) Am I an animal for wanting to *ILL this guy? Don't let it get you down there are plenty of good people but at the end of the day we are just animals is fancy clothes.
0 likes@That_Goth_bitch Just wondering, does that mean someone who commits a crime against an elderly person isn't as bad? Because that person isn't going to live with it their whole life, or many years of life aren't taken away from them like with a kid (or even middle aged person)? That's kind of what your logic implies, but I'm just wondering?
0 likesNo, I cannot. I don't want to try either. Even in my imagination this seems the deepest pit of hell.
0 likes@TomsaiiLad exactly, thats the only thing I'm happy about. pedophiles never survive long in prison
0 likesIts absolutely heartbreaking. Its the saddest thing possibly imaginable.
0 likesLose it already. Save yourself time. Only God is good. Some people are good according to our standards, and we can learn to trust individual people to a degree. But even they will let you down at times. Everyone is capable of great evil. Given enough time and the right circumstances, I'm certain everyone would sooner or later show that. Never trust humanity, because there's no question that we're fallen and messed up.
0 likesDonāt have faith in the first place
0 likes@TomsaiiLad Yeah but another thing that's sad is that stuff like that happens to some prisoners who aren't complete monsters.
0 likes@Will S He didn't think that.
0 likesYour a hero
0 likes@Nick Tinsley Perhaps being sick isn't just a male thing.
0 likes25years? What a pathetic sentence.
0 likesNo, no-one can 'imagine' what that was like, if you could you would instantly go insane
0 likes@TomsaiiLad He will be in solitary confinement for the rest of his life.
0 likes@retrophonic People like him have been around for eons. I am so glad they've discovered DNA etc.....and they can examine a victim to prove what was done.
0 likesJust sickening! Makes me wanna throw up.
0 likes@MrEslender .
0 likesLike cheese? You wish you were... like cheese
0 likeshumanity has nothing to do with it sis...not in that sense
0 likesforget about the romantic view on humanity
0 likesthere is the most beautiful and there is the unspeakably ugly they both exist .. just take it in and move on .
@TomsaiiLad having a "faith" in anything is usually a bad idea. humanity is a particularly bad choice.
0 likesThankfully, these people represent an incredibly small portion of the population. take comfort in this, as heinous as these people are š
0 likesOne bad person doesnāt ruin the population. Remember that with everything
0 likes@TomsaiiLad wont make her come back
0 likesI'm speechless on what goes through these sickos heads. It's never ending.
0 likes@Alexandra G_1994 She's not evil, but she IS a coward, an enabler, and a selfish person. It's not excusable either way, but it is different than committing the crime. She should have stopped it. She didn't, and she should be punished for that. The maliciousness isn't there, though.
0 likesDon't have to, unfortunately. I survived in my case, but you're correct that the pain, fear, and shame is one of the worst things a person can feel. It's awful.
0 likes@Ethan CR you're entitled to your opinion...either way she is evil in my opinion, what she did is pure evil.
0 likesI cant imagine, maybe she liked it. I really dont know, ppl are different and i wasnt there, so i dont know.
0 likesWait until you have to hunt for those kids. I have nightmares of the children I've hunted for and found.
0 likes@TomsaiiLad nope. He won't. The guards will probably initiate him. There is no valid reason to keep him or any child killer alive.
0 likes@Loli King incorrect
0 likesKarma will get to him. And Tori will be in peace
0 likes@TomsaiiLad nope heāll be in solitary and protected
0 likes@Dee Teezy have you heard of the Chris watts case? Heās getting love letters and educated
0 likesAfter going back to get her mom's earrings. Fucking tragic.
0 likes@TomsaiiLad the sad part is they will isolate him from gen pop š
0 likesNope, can't do this one yet. Nuh uh
0 likesImagining it has no positive results, so don't.
0 likes@Chris Shockey do you believe in God?
0 likesIt reminds me of the James Bulger case. Sickening and tragicš„
0 likes@TomsaiiLad Do you really want another human being to suffer? He needs help, not death.
0 likes@Chris Shockey Don't worry. Reporters ignore the good. Noone clicks on an article about someone giving an orphan a home, or helping a list child find their mother.
0 likes@TomsaiiLad I wish people would stop pushing the bullshit rhetoric that monsters like him suffer in jail. I know it's to make people feel better about themselves but still, it's never true. He's literally been moved out of max security to medium and has even been able to enjoy extorting money from family, friends and strangers while behind bars. Believe me he isn't suffering sadly.
0 likesDon't lose faith ā¤ļø
0 likesYea the kid felt what all natives, Africans and Mexicans felt when white people invaded them
0 likes@Chris Shockey This simply isn't true, and getting out into the world regularly would prove it. All people are flawed but there are very few evil people and a whole lot of good ones.
0 likesAfter physical bullying I developed severe anger issues, for the next 3 years of my life I kept fighting against myself in my head that I was eating shit during every meal. While eating tomato or chilli sauce I fought against myself in my head that I was eating menstrual period blood. During EVERY single second of those 3 years I also kept fighting against myself in my head that the bullies were sodomizing me and my family members. As a result I severely couldn't concentrate during exams and classes.
0 likesI am still having self esteem issues 14 years on from the incident.
I went to army and didn't do some admin work due to fighting myself in my head and army people thought I was lazy and thus bullied me as well.
This is why I have zero sympathies and zero tolerance for bullies. I am 31 years old and don't even have a wife now, partly sabotaged due to bullying. I went to teach the bullies a lesson by cyberbullying/harassing them online, the bullies were so "strong" until they went to call the police LOL, but like I mentioned above, I have zero regrets :)
@Christopher Spotts ya I am seeing a counsellor but my point is in extreme cases like my life I opted for vigilante justice without regrets
0 likes@Christopher Spotts it is not easy for me to tell the counsellor that I fought against myself that I was eating shit during every meal and they were sodomizing me and my family members every second
0 likesoh boy you are too late for that
0 likesi lost my faith a long time ago
@bau amis lose faith in religion as well
0 likesLose faith in god as well
0 likesI just hope she didnāt know what was happening. Like understand what was being done. Do young children have the concept that they are going to die? I hope not for this childās sake. May she Rest In Peace
0 likes@Lily S or older than you. I was never taught that people my age could do that stuff to you. Only found out when it was too late
1 like@Infamous Actually foetus do avoid trying to be aborted, children who have been bullied have been known to commit suicide so probably yes.
0 likes@Infamous Teaching us to trust and obey grown ups, even strangers. What were our parents thinking? Our only hope is the internet where we can speak freely about the problem.
0 likesI still sometimes wonder if my parents wanted me to be meek and obedient for my good or theirs.
The child? Agony. But Mike over there was feeling great about it. Sick POS!
0 likesWould it make you feel any better knowing he's in the beginning stages of drug withdrawal and it will take a couple of months before it gets better? In the meantime he will vomit/shit half to death. Haha.
0 likes@Netizen clever and sad
0 likes@Uncle Doctor this comment is really nice š hope your right
1 like@TomsaiiLad probably not. Unfortunately.... They put monsters like this one in PC so that things like that don't happen.
0 likesDragons and monsters do roam Earth. Hopefully we donāt cross paths with one anytime soon.
0 likes47:53 "The detective has become understandably emotionally invested in the case,"... he definitedly has. He was the one who discovered Torri's decomposing body.
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3 likesI have met a pedophile in jail here in India, because I was researching about how criminal's think while committing a crime. It was for a screenplay I've been writing and this criminal who raped a 7 year old kid told me something that totally destroyed me. He said, and i quote
39 likes"I thought that the child would like to be raped because I myself wanted to be raped when I was a kid".
I went speechless after listening to this and that was the moment I realised that i was literally talking to a real monster.
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wow!! I am speechless
3 likesare you malayali?
1 like@abhi jieth yup š
1 likeWhat about you?
Holy shit
0 likesI've used that "are you a monster or just made a mistake" strategy. It works so well when it comes to someone who is even slightly remorseful or who just wants to save face.
114 likesOn one hand, it's great to see this pathetic human being suffer in fear but on the other hand. That officer deserves a oscar, tony, Grammy and every award ever to sit there casually drinking his coffee and tell this guy that what he did is normal, simple mistake, etc and that hes a good guy. Amazing work by the detective
81 likescan we all just take a moment to appreciate the detectiveās ability of talking nonstop for a full interrogation
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its practically his job to do that
99 likesYes, the officer is a trained professional.
73 likesHe repeats himself 20 times in 20 min. Never changes what he says.
104 likesIt shouldnāt have been called an interrogation lmao, this was me listening to a detective talk to himself.
153 likesDude can talk a gate off its hinges
149 likesMmmkay? Mmmkay? UGH
30 likes@Tom Sawyer lololol! (I just spit my grapefruit juice out!)
2 likesI just wish we could have seen him beat the "suspect" with a pipe. Maybe in crimes like this the convicted should have to live through a recreation of the crime only with themselves as the victim. I hope he gets a jail cell with big Bubu for the rest of his life and they get plenty of alone time.
26 likesMeanwhile I struggle to keep a conversation going for more than 30 seconds.
51 likesSame. This guy is quite something!
4 likesHe kept talking so much not letting the guy confess. lol
22 likesHe is trained to do so, but it takes a special person to be able to do that, he is probably a rambler and over elaborator to begin with, who loves the sound of his own voice.
15 likessometimes the detective just listens the whole time lol
5 likesIt's called editing.
1 likeI now understand where the ''Mmmkay'' from southpark comes from lmao
14 likesI wish I had used my ability to not shut up for a career.
8 likesOkay? All right? Okay? All right? Okay? All right? Okay?
11 likesHeās really good. I wonder if itās the same guy that interviewed Alek Minassian who also did a stellar job
5 likes@TANKTHEARC As explained in the commentary that is part of the technique. It keeps the suspects mind racing and unable to think clearly. Police here donāt use the terrible US / TV drama style Reid technique, which produce false confessions.
15 likes@Paul nobody said use the csi fake method . this one sucked btw. yet we reward failure .
1 like@TANKTHEARC Well Tank Iām not sure what video you watched but you obviously didnāt watch the whole thing because he only talks constantly during Phase 1 until they go to the Good cop bad cop routine. He then has plenty of chance to talk for the rest of the video. Just because you got bored doesnāt mean there was something wrong with the police technique.
14 likes@TANKTHEARC its not like by the end of it he was basically stating the suspects guilt as if it was a fact with absolutely no resistance ir denial on the suspects part. Called him a monster and a sick puppy and the killer didnt even attempt to deny the accusations. Thats totally not going to have a significant effect in a court of law.
6 likes@Billy Elden Ring nope, has no relevance, you are free to ignore allegations.
2 likes@TANKTHEARC you are also free to call a lawyer at any point. The relevance is that an inoccent man would at least protest his inoccence when called a murderous child rapist. It goes even beyond that, an inoccent man would be furious at even the implication. Thats not how an inoccent man behaves. If you cant even pick up on that, no wonder why the work of an extremely competent forensic pshyquistrist comes off as bad to you.
5 likesCriminal minds is a fantastic tv show, basically this great FBI team of the BAU division, basically gather a profile of killings to catch the serial killers. Now this guy here is apart of the Ontario police analyst unit, not only is he apart of it but he runs it. Itās incredible to watch it in a real life setting rather than a fictional story. Bravo.
4 likes@Billy Elden Ring the problem just is that depending on personality and situation even innocent people sometimes don't deny a crime they haven't committed and as you can research yourself interrogation tactics that include allegations and judgement are statistically much more likely to produce false confessions
3 likesMy dad would be a great interrogator, it seems.. he never stops talking (:
5 likes@Franziska Wild it is extremely uncommon though. It has to be someone extremely agreeable, and what trully makes the diference here is the severity of the crime.
1 likeIt doesnt matter how meek or timid you are NO ONE in their right mind would just accept being accused of raping and murdering a little girl. No one. Ever.
@Billy Elden Ring not always the case though, depends on the persons demeaner, ther was a case of a guy calm without being angry in an interview because he knew he was innocent.
1 likelater it was found the suspect was a short white man and he was a tall black man,
@TANKTHEARC even in that video, its explained that his calm demeanor is extremely rare, and immedeatly after they show another inocente man with the typical response. He is frustrated, making eye contact and directly challenging the accusation. But both of those cases where of pretty crime(and even then the typical response is being frustrated at the accusation). We are talking about a whole diferent level of crime here. Its not just rape, its not just murder. Its both of those things done to a child.
3 likesIf a false accusation of petty crime typically gets a heated response, imagine the response when its literally the worst crime possible.
Talk to a straight up piece of garbage like that for a whole hour. He's truly a hero.
2 likes@Zoroaster did you mean big bubba... lol
0 likesIt was liked getting a tooth pulled
3 likes@TANKTHEARC it totally seemed that way
1 like@Noobovsky still, pretty impressive to maintain his composure
0 likesThis investigator is actually amazing heās in other videos on other cases and breaks these people down to tell the truth
2 likesHonestly, the detective has the speaking capacity of my kids telling me in depth lore about a show I give 0 fucks about. And that guy wasn't even giving him a "That's really cool buddy"
1 likeAnd not just nonstop talking but in that monotone Canadian dialect. I would snap and admit to everything to get him to shut up lol
3 likesOk? Alright? Ok? Alright? Ok? Alright? Ok? Alright? Ok? Alright? Ok? Alright?
2 likesEnds every...single...sentence....with either "ok?" or "alright?"...I couldn't even hear what else he was saying after awhile because I just kept hearing those 2 words
1 like@Zoroaster you watch too much TV. That's not what happens in prison.
0 likes@nobody that's literally all I could hear after only a few minutes. I couldn't take it anymore.
1 like@John Jacobs I beg to differ. It absolutely does happen in prison. Not all the time but it's not exactly a rarity either. And I'm against it happening or being condoned in almost all situations. But I also believe this guy deserves exactly that.
0 likesCan we also appreciate that he got ZERO information from the suspect during that time?
1 likeFucking dont stop
0 likesI guarantee he practices by talking to himself
1 like@Paul Nae different guy
1 like@John Jacobs what? Oh there's quite a few rapest in prison they just don't talk about it trust me in every prison there's always that one
1 likeNot as hard as you think to constantly talk about something you care about
0 likes@Billy Elden Ring he was already found guilty
1 likeHe's on the Tim Hortons coffee buzzzzz
0 likesAnd he's basically repeating the same thing over and over and over and sometimes in different ways.
1 likeBut yeah, he definitely seems like a genuinely nice guy.
@stilltlrforlife they arenāt trained to talk non stop, they are trained to say whatās needed in order to coax information from suspects, which is the whole point of an interrogation. This guy just had too much coffeeā¦
0 likes@Paul lol how is he āreally goodā? What info did he himself get the suspect to confess? The explanation in the video about it being a technique is true to a certain extent, in certain situations but at some point you have to allow the suspect to speak or you defeat the entire purpose of the interrogation. The call was made to send the second cop in for a reason. If the first was doing so great they wouldnāt have had to change up the strategy so quickly. Someone higher up was watching the feed and made the call to try something else because it was going nowhere. And no, this isnāt who interrogated Minassian, not even close..
0 likesEdited to make it seem like he never stopped talking. Didn't you notice the speed ups in the footage?
1 like@Jameson G.A. I think it depends on who teaches tactics and the personality, I agree this guy talks too much, although my cousin was an investigator and detective for a police department here, I remember him telling me about depending on a suspect's behavior and personality will lead the interrogation to keep pressure on in many different ways, but yes, this guy yapped waaaayyyyy too much, I want to show this to my cousin and see what he thinks about the tactic used.
0 likes@Jameson G.A. Go watch the Interview: Jim Smyth: Colonel Russell Williams Interview Interrogator (2021) and get back to me. The guy's a master interrogator. I can tell you're an American who's watched too many cop shows.
1 likeMy gawd that was my life sentence! He sucks .
0 likesTo those commenting that the investigating/interrogating officers did a bad job: don't forget Michael had already been advised by legal council, which makes this work umpteen times more difficult.
2 likes@Dark Wun They don't know anything about his work on other cases either
1 like@Paul Agreed, esp. one of the investigator's successes in the David Russell Williams case - as mentioned above. In that case Williams had not been advised by a lawyer, big difference in what the investigators could and could not do.
2 likes@Dark Wun yea thatās the one I was thinking of!
1 likeYo he got me ready to confess to everything and I didnāt even do nothing, the ability he has to put words together is astounding and his stamina is unmatched!!!
0 likes@Paul ABSOLUTELY! Jim Smyth is a genius! Love the RW Interrogationā¦pure gold.
2 likesseriously this guy could convince me to admit to anything
3 likesI have seen other interrogators who talk less and draw out the suspect bit by bit until he opens up completely.
0 likesAs apposed to not doing his job...
0 likesYou realize they didn't need a confession right did you listen to anything that was said??
0 likesThey didn't watch lmao they're just here to watch people sit in rooms rather than the interesting conversations that went on
0 likesWhich ones are good then tank?
0 likesOntario people can talk 24/7.
0 likesIt didn't turn out to be a good technique in this case. When someone just rambles on it actually makes it easier to keep quiet, especially if that's how you're inclined going into the interrogation. It would have bene better if he had asked more direct questions and stayed silent until the suspect answered. It's hard to stay totally silent when someone asks you a direct question as it's too awkward.
0 likesinterrogators have an uncanny talent to talk for hours on end
0 likesā@TANKTHEARC they didn't need a confession
0 likesā@Brian Bagnall they didn't need incriminating information
0 likes@i_love_games110 they always want one reguardless, its a slam dunk that way.
0 likes@i_love_games110 Okay brainiac, then what was the purpose of the interrogation?
0 likesMmmkay is the American version of the British Nammeen or Nammsayin' Bassically word glue for a longer sentence.
0 likesThis is the most composed and relaxed, yet effective interrogator Iāve seen in any of these videos.
3 likes"I'm sorry sir, we can't serve you a Mcflurry. The machine is turned off."
370 likes"Now, that's not true now is it? You can't just look at a machine that's turned off and be like 'oh I can't use it' and let it be the end of it, alright? Sometimes turning on a machine is as simple as flipping a switch or plugging something in the outlet, and there you go you've got a working flurry machine. Or maybe it's not that simple, maybe you don't know how to turn the machine on, maybe you're not allowed to turn on the machine, maybe the only person who can turn on the machine is the manager or a mechanic. Maybe you mispoke and the machine is actually broken, but the thing is I can't know unless you tell me, okay?"
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lmaooooo
14 likesIād be fixing that machine myself just to get him to shut the hell up
38 likes@Enflamed Huevos I'd be fixing the machine out of fear. Imagine just working your damn shift at the DQ when suddenly a man just starts multi choice questioning your entire soul.
27 likesOmfg hilarious
0 likesFive hours later, that drive-thru attendant finally admitted to killing the regional McFlurry mechanic. In a bizarre twist, the mechanic had been a member of a rival hockey team when he was young, and with a totally obvious but uncalled slashing penalty had prevented the attendant's breakaway chance with pro scouts in attendance.
4 likes@Matthew Clark haha
1 likeThis video made my stomach churn several times. That poor child. Breaks my heart as a father of two young children. Unfathomable tragedy what she went through. I cannot wrap my head around the evilness.
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As a female child that walks to school and is around men a lot (like most people) it really just use these types of cases to educate myself on signs of child predators (or just bad people in general).
4 likesI feel so bad for her, all she wanted was to see a puppy. And then he sits there and acts like the victim.
@Mango Flower I really don't think you should be consuming this type of media if you're a child. This can damage your psyche.
12 likesWhat a PHENOMENAL interrogator. And his final words to Mike were just... wow. Even when delivering his scathing hatred he is eloquent. I should send Mike a needlepoint to his prison cell with those final words.
117 likes"You're a hollow man. So it was nice meeting you Mikey. Enjoy the rest of your life. This is the kind of room you'll be spending it in."
I love when they realize he's not gonna talk and the cop just starts to insult him, just because he can
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Debra Jones he knows which cop heās talking about.
51 likesWhats the clip in the beginning of the guy with the gun? That seemed way more interesting than a guy not talking for 4 hours
250 likesThe one aboot keeping your mouth shut
77 likes@Wimmig Lmaoo the reaction of the cop DIRECTLY after this dude killed himself was just an mildly irritated sigh like "Ah fuck." and "Damn it. :\" Cops are hard asf
207 likes@Scorch428 some guy on jcs patreon channel who smuggled a gun into the interview room and then blew his brains out before he was even questioned. Think he knew he'd be doing life inside couldn't face it etc. The detective comes back in and finds him splattered and says 'you motherfker' as i remember
332 likes@Chickyface Oh shiiidddd is it still on patreon???
14 likes@Trap Lord So yeh but its within one of the compilations....cant recall which one.....the one where theres a study of how people behave in the room when the detectives aren't in there....escaping and stuff
59 likes@Chickyface imma check when I get home thx
9 likesIt's like a 3 minute clip though....don't be disappointed
11 likes@Trap Lord So It's definitely worth watching....pretty unforgettable, but brief. Enjoy!
14 likesme watching that part: maybe being a detective wouldnt be so bad š
12 likescrystal even called him Mikey š
8 likesClare Lawrence I remember that, then he was like ādidnāt anyone search himā
17 likestoo bad he did a terrible job of insulting him. They were way too nice
6 likesImportant man Commenting ba
0 likes@Chickyface I saw it god damn. The cops failed in that situation. The guy wasnt a good guy by any means but damn his family
2 likes@Christopher Marlowe ...where at on liveleak? Like what do you put in the search bar?
1 likeHe knows he hates it lol
0 likesāGet rid of your fucking security blanket and start being a manā š
42 likesClare Lawrence hi, is the patreon still on? If so, how can I join? š¬
2 likes@Scorch428 What part of the video is that clip?
0 likesWell, also he was trying one last time to let the child killer know if you don't talk and admit what you did im going to walk out of here believing you are evil and hollow without any type of remorse, And thats all he has to go on.
3 likes@*giuseppepsi* Walked past a murder scene last week, asked one of the cops at the edge of the police line what happened, "ahh, just a stabbing".
5 likes@Scorch428 thereās a clip?
0 likes@*giuseppepsi* where is this footage
0 likes@Chickyface shit best ad for the Patreon
6 likesI'm surprised this Canadian cop didn't bring him a pillow and cuddle him and whisper sweet nothings in his ear.. He already gave him a blanket and offered him eggs, a cereal bar And a full breakfast if he wanted
5 likesThat made me so happy
0 likesHey Crystal
0 likes@goodbye youtube grandpa has had enough what?
3 likes@startervisions u liked my name
0 likes@goodbye youtube grandpa has had enough ...what?
3 likes53:10 .. I love this guy.
1 likeAnd we're supposed to feel sorry for him? he didn't give a crap when he killed that little girl. The cop told it like it was
0 likesI love this goddamn detective. I wish he could teach me his ways.
0 likesHe said take that fucking security blanket off lmao
0 likesI would have been calling him what he is in the first 10 seconds! It wouldn't be about insults, it would be the truth!
0 likesI mean I would
0 likes@VenioĀ thank you for mentioning the name, was able to find a video of it on reddit. Shit's nuts!
0 likesHow did they even manage to sneak a WHOLE GUN into a cop shop?!
@*giuseppepsi* "Cops are hard asf" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
1 like@Mr. LoDangles it's a tactic.
0 likesThe unrelenting steady monologue at the beginning is fascinating. The hypnotic quality of his voice is really powerful and shows just how incredibly skilled and perceptive the interrogator is. Iāve been looking at how voice, sound and music can be used as a powerful mind control technique used in cults, abusive relationships and propaganda. Itās like he has a tank full of psychological techniques and he just rolls right in and completely flattens this turd. These guys at this level deserve something about a million levels above an Oscar for their performances. Their talent and heart and benevolent presence in our world somewhat relieves the despair that one feels in knowing that all these psychopaths walk among us.
43 likesāskin cells from her rubbing up and down in your seats, in your car.ā ouch.. that hurt, that really just cuts deep. that exact sentence is what made my heart drop and really think about how horrifying his actions were. iām so sorry for her..
18 likesI cannot emphasise more strongly why I cannot work in law enforcement - I could never maintain the composure of this officer. I know my own limitations, and I leave it to others like him to direct these monsters to their fate. Real saliva on my screen from seething at this, atrocity of a human being. R.I.P. Tori, and my condolences to anyone forced to suffer the ills of this level of inhuman filth.
54 likesMissed you tons, hope you're coming back or finding a new home for your incredible content!
54 likesBeing an investigator would be so hard. Giving fake sympathy to people that do these horrible things canāt be easy
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Giving fake anything is easier when you feel emotionally detached from the person, as counterintuitive that sounds. It is easier to lie to someone you hate than to someone you care about.
236 likesAnd there sure are plenty reasons to hate Michael Rafferty. They already knew he was guilty without a doubt.
ā@Taekatanahu one should admit it is still a difficult job. This kind of police work should be commended.
55 likesI also think he is desensitized to this kind of violence.
10 likesTry working in retail...
45 likes@ELEKTROSKANSEN haha retail where you're dealing with psychos every day š¤£
22 likesImagine having a daughter and then going into that room to tell a guy like that what he did wasnt that bad and just a mistake
21 likesI'm sure it gets easier overtime knowing that the result is pure concentrated karmic justice...it must feel amazing to pluck monsters like this out from society.
8 likesi disagree id revel in it thinking one slip i'm the one who sends you to hell
4 likesyeah seriously, but it comforts me to know but the more fake sympathy they show, the more dirt theyāll get on them in the end. the detectives really have to get in their heads sometimes to seal the deal, itās very impressive
10 likesEspecially the part where he has to claim he's dealt with worse things and people to garner some kind of comradery. We all know that's not true, my dude. There quite literally is nothing more evil than this crime.
3 likesIt's disgusting that we have to as civilized people have to honor their human rights otherwise it could throw the case.
5 likesits just a job, and he is good at this job
0 likes@Ich Du whatever you say lol, youāre job is 10x easier than this guys if you even have one. How about you just commend him instead of saying something dumb just to be different
0 likes@Colter L i never said that it is a easy or a hard job, it obviously will be harder/easier for different persons, and obviously he is very good at it, which i acknowledged
0 likesThatās what I was thinking
0 likes@alien i dont think having to deal with monsters as your job feels amazing
0 likes@Taekatanahu Its common place for those investigating crimes against children to suffer severe PTSD. These men are doing gods work and are deeply and forever scarred. š»
3 likes@ELEKTROSKANSEN "Ma'am I understand that your mixer blade has broken. I know it feels like the world is over. Give me one second...."š
0 likes@Taekatanahu hating someone is not being emotionally detached. It's quite the opposite, you have very strong feelings of hate. And the point was that it must be hard to force sympathy for someone whom you hate. Investigators have to learn how to become emotionally detached though, because like you said, it's much easier to fake emotions toward someone who you have emotionally detached from.
1 likenot as hard as you pretend it is. thats his JOB. hes trained very well
0 likes@AboveAll Iām glad you can make an observation that he is an investigator. Want a cookie?
1 like@AboveAll lmao I gotta get ready for work while you continue to stir the pot in the YouTube comments lol
0 likes@AboveAll just like nobody asked you to come down here and reply to my very first comment LMAO
0 likes@Colter L LOL and nobody asked you to comment in the first place :)
0 likesmaybe dont leave it up if you dont want to be put in your place :)
@AboveAll itās a tiny bit odd youāre complaining about me replying when yet youāre replying to my replies. Hypocritical some would say lol. Have a merry Christmas kid lol
0 likes@Stephen Grabarek why would I waste my time giving fake sympathy to someone idgaf about? Thatās a waste of my time and theirs. Think before you speak bud
0 likes@ZeroMass lol it's funny you say they're doing gods work. God just watched what happened to that girl. I don't think God has any "work".
1 like@John Doe lol so funny right?? lol lol
1 like@Stephen Grabarek you said the same thing about Disney land again yet you complain of me telling you to quit taking drugs multiple times. I see the hypocrisy, do you??
0 likes@Stephen Grabarek youāre*. If youāre so smart whereās your grammar at?
1 likeA very nice payoff at the end, though: the family of the little girl watching Rafferty get the maximum sentence possible because the detectives are so skilled at what they do. I feel a sense of awe watching them play these monsters like a fiddle.
1 like@toohsas yes 100%
0 likesDonāt misinterpret this please. But I disagree. For whatever reason some people can just disassociate from the situation. Itās like these investigators are just the other side of the same coin as the murderers. They can hear these things and not break down. It doesnāt phase them. Itās kind of hard to explain but like it doesnāt impact them like it does your average person.
0 likesI know a few
0 likesi think that too tbh idk how they can just give them fake sympathy and also reassure them sometimes but still completely shut down their fake scenarios of them being innocent
0 likesJCS is helping criminals by showing police tricks. Channels like this make police work more difficult.
0 likesItās bro that hard tbh
0 likes@Encryptoh / Radar Line bro I had a stroke reading that lol
0 likes@toohsas they arenāt police they are investigators
0 likesNo kiding, only thing i could think of is which way i could inflict pain for this sorry piece of human being
0 likes@Jonathan Ingram no. No matter how professional and experienced he is, heās still a human being and you can bet your bottom dollar he was deeply affected by the case
0 likesIt probably wasn't so hard knowing that faking nice was going to be the thing that makes him fry.
0 likesHow many "okay" did he use
1 likeSeriously.
0 likesIt's a manipulation tactic. Seeing it as such probably makes it easier to do.
0 likesFor some people unconditional empathy isn't that difficult
0 likesYeah or being a lawyer trying to defend someone who did something like this. Lawyers arenāt bad people my dad is one but heās a workers comp defense attorney and defends business against false or unnecessary workers compensation claims.
0 likesThis physically disgusts me so much to hear everything he did to an innocent girl who did no wrong.
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Any girl. No girl deserved that.
13 likesTo: JCS CRIMINAL PSYCHOLOGY, I really want you to know how excellent of a job you have done on these high profile cases and your actual EXPERT analysis in laymans terms is appreciated and much respected. Ive seen these interrogations and case run downs by so many other channels and you are by far the best and most accurate. In Rafferty, impressive how you know the two detective investigators so well and strategy use. Most interesting is Chris Loins, Behavioral Sciences. Great Work. Investigator Chris Loins is the man. I like when he says to Rafferty, " you aint built for this shit, its not what your about."
111 likesI can't imagine what its like to walk into a place and know your never walking out even if you deny everything and stick to your story evidence is such a great tool that we use. I stick can't wrap my head around how people do these sick things knowing the consequences... I guess normal people can't comprehend that
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Unfortunately there's lots of people get away with similar shit and tell others like this psychopath and they take the risk that others took and got away with it is the only way I think they would think while plotting to commit such Hynes crime
1 likeWhere the mind goes, the body follows. Be careful what you allow your sense to be entertained by. It's easy and comforting to act like these people aren't human, but they most certainly are. THis is why the fight against the sexualization of children is so important in the West; it's enticing and creates perversions to these things. Humanism ultimately doesn't work.
0 likesEverytime i watch one the investigation videos, i am in awe of how talented, skillful, patience and great the detectives are at doing their job while having all the facts in front of them and still keeping their calm. Bravo
12 likesThis detective is incredible. The way he won't even entertain the guy saying that he's innocent and just shuts it down, so impressive.
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And yet he does it so eloquently. Shuts him down with the most skill I've ever seen. Very impressive.
124 likesWatch this same detective interrogate and dismantle Russell Williams
36 likes@Debj Watson Agree with that, Conversely watch the interrogation of Stephen McDaniel of how not to do an interrogation. Also JCS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkRjIq8Cp2A
11 likes@Esben Hansen I watched it...thanks! It was terrible.
7 likesHe is and plays the exact image of "I am so much smarter than you and working against you, your lying does absolutely nothing." he shows so much pity and just "I wanna do my job, so stop messing around," its so demeaning and perfect to get a person into confessing.
20 likesYeah this guy is a full on pro
10 likes@Mr. Macaques But then some women get away with spinning a lie in court and get away with murder. Some only though.
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1 like@Debj Watson is it the same guy? he sounds different and softer in that one
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0 likes@TANKTHEARC The 'bad cop' is the one who interrogated Russell Williams
1 like@Mr. Macaques If you watch the full interrogation, the bad cop did try to entertain the possibility that Mike was innocent in order to get him to give a false alibi, but Mike said he was going to wait to talk to his lawyer.
0 likes@TANKTHEARC it is Detective Jim Smythe of the OCC. He is amazing
2 likes@brainstewX I did watch the whole thing multiple times... If raffery said that then it would be even more important that they catch him in a lie before he sees his lawyer. But they have so much evidence that he will go for life no matter what crazy story he came up with.
0 likes@Mr. Macaques I'm just saying that is one of the strategies that was used on Mike, but it wasn't featured in the JCS video.
0 likes@Debj Watson I'm glad someone noticed it's the same guy! Knew I recognised his voice haha
1 likeOh yeah SO impressive š
1 like@Summer Schmidt and exactly how many times have you been in on an interrogation?? Let me guessā¦.just on YouTube.
0 likesDetectives will do it if someone is innocent to its to apply pressure
0 likesComplete failure of an interrogation.
2 likes@Brian Bagnall yeah don't get me wrong he's no Brian Bagnall
1 like@Phil Mitchell Boxing So this detective runs his mouth non-stop for an hour without letting the suspect even speak. He gets absolutely NO INFORMATION from the suspect in all that time. That is called a complete and utter failure of the goal of the interrogation. Someone needs to tell that detective lesson one of an interrogation: let the suspect speak.
1 like@Brian Bagnall You should reach out to him he will likely be star struck.
1 like@Phil Mitchell Boxing Let me guess guy who posts boot licking comment "This detective is incredible." Are you perhaps the incompetent detective?
0 likes@Phil Mitchell Boxing You're really stuck on that one joke.
0 likes@Brian Bagnall you should teach him how its done brian
0 likesI'm a Criminal Justice/ Forensic Psychology student; and although repulsive, I find these interrogation techniques with such seemingly normal but obviously severely twisted psychopaths fascinating.
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Sounds great š how much longer you got with training ?
0 likesThose detectivs are MINDBLOWING! Gosh, not even a second of hesitation or thinking over an answer, and such a smooth collab, pure cinema material, my respect! Could watch that type of work all day long.
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Agreed, I love love love good interrogation.
0 likesThese types of detectives are so amazing
0 likesThese types of detectives are so amazing
0 likesThere are not enough adjectives in any spoken language to describe how vile this man is. Someone with so little conscience can barely even be described as human.
24 likesI've always felt that I'm a pretty tough person, but no video makes me hug my daughters tighter than this one. It breaks my heart thinking of this poor little girl and the awful things she experienced.
13 likesThis detective style is like water droplet torture. Relentless and exhausting. He wore that man down like a pro. Brilliant
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He didnāt wear him down whatsoever lol.
142 likesHeās the detective who got the confession from Russell Williams too.... supposedly heās one of the best ever
532 likesOops that was the guy w Terry
24 likes@Mac M That doesn't mean he didn't wear him down (which he did)...as most interrogations
112 likesIts Jim, you know Jim Smyth.
55 likesHe interrogated Russell Williams
Well he didnt confess
24 likesNo he didn't, dude never shook. He didn't even eat the donut. They should have phone booked him š
41 likesamazing he reads the suspect like a book
19 likesHe did not break anybody. It was a torture watching this failure of interrogation
55 likesThank goodness for good detective work like this
12 likesTheBreadSandwich because he is a pro lmao
4 likes@Sarah Dixon This guy is not Jim Smyth. He said his name was Chris Loam at the beginning. Then, at the end, Smyth comes in and grills the shit out of the suspect.
83 likes@Thelving the Wing I am not lacking in observation skills, I can hear and have mental capacity. Why do you patronise me?
2 likes@Sarah Dixon Huh? I'm not patronising you. I don't understand what you mean. I wasn't trying to personally attack you. You said it was Smyth. I'm saying it wasn't.
44 likes@Thelving the Wing It was beginning and end Frasierš¤£
1 likeWhat man?
0 likes@John Doe Agreed, not sure why everyone thinks the detective won or wore him down. he never confessed to it here.
13 likes@Madeline Harper He didn't get the confession... lol.
3 likestorture isn't voluntary though. The perp can say nothing
1 likeTheBreadSandwich can you imagine being married to the detective? He talks and talks nonstop
9 likes@Michele šØš¦ Yeah... I realize it's a tactic that he's using, but I'd probably have a difficult time refraining from lashing out and slapping the shit out of him... and getting an even harder sentence, lol.
2 likesJ H naw someone like that likes to hear their own voice all the time. He doesnāt shut up. I live twenty minutes from Woodstock. Know a lot of dudes that talk nonstop and sound just like him š³
3 likes@Michele šØš¦ Not sure about that.. It's an actual tactic that they use in interrogations. Basically to keep the mind racing and hinder their ability to think and come up with an alibi. Not to mention that there are other videos of the same guy conducting this interrogation, and he doesn't always talk like this.
25 likesPretty sure it's also detailed in other JCS videos as well.
J H I get that itās a tactic but this detective reminds me of several people Iāve met in my almost 60 years in Ontario. Heās the right person for the job. Iām betting he doesnāt turn it off. Just saying...
2 likes@Michele šØš¦ Could be. Maybe he's just being the typical overly polite Canadian!.. haha
4 likesJ H ššššššš we are generally nice people. The cop was amazed that buddy didnāt eat his donut š©.
12 likesThere was a lot of anger in this area over what happened to Tory Stafford. Poor kid
Sarah Dixon I was wondering if it was the same dude. Guys a fucking pro.
6 likesJohn Doe You good bro?
1 likeYes. Tries to seem sympathetic, yet is tough as nails... RESPECT!
3 likes@Clinton Pendleton FOR STARTERS NOT LIKE THIS!
0 likes@Clinton Pendleton Your sarcasm is really notable! Let me add a "lol" so you can understand mine!
1 likeTerribly fascinatingš
0 likes@Kristall lol.... No, the point is to get information, via the torture. Not the torture itself.
6 likes@J H if you have all of the evidence and information then it is basically just for the torture
2 likes@Kristall not really... A confession makes a trial much faster, and increases the likelihood of a guilty plea.
9 likes@J H faster sure but you can still have a pretty good trial as long as you have a mountain of evidence. Whether they plead guilty or not. There was a witness, dna, the autopsy, ect. There was no way he was walking out of this untouched. And some would say it looks even worse on his part if he pleads not guilty as that would show he has no remorse for what he did or anything of that sort
1 like@Tami O wrong. 7:05 that's the staff sergeant Chris lone.
1 likeJim Smyth was interrogating the woman who abducted the child, not the killer.
@Sarah Dixon nope! It's not Jim Smyth. That's Chris lone.
5 likesJim interrogated the woman.
This is not an interrogation.
They already had the evidence, the behavioural guy sitting with him is analyzing risk post conviction.
@Julio's Evil Twin Thanks
0 likes@Sarah Dixon Jim arrives in for the last 15min of the 4hr behavioural science guys interaction..
1 likeAs seen in this video, but he didn't interrogate as comments suggest.
@Algernon Campbell there's a fresh upload of the x4 interrogation hours of that child killer by a channel called Red Circle Interrogations.. part 4 is the one hour Jim Smyth spent with the killer
2 likesIf y'all can't find it I'll drop a link šš»
Tami O I don't think he is actually. That detective voice was much softer. He didn't talk fast he was calmer and ....yeah it's just not the same guy. I'm almost positive
0 likestonytrader people are saying it's the same guy who interrogated Russell. It clearly isnt
0 likes@Amirah Kukan part 4 of the four part interrogation is Jim Smyth.
0 likesThe other softer spoken guy was just a behavioural scientist who was taking opportunity whilst Mr Smyth was interrogating the girl in a different room.
If you'd like the link to Jim Smyth one hour interrogation of the killer I'll fetch you it.
It's brilliant! I have done nothing and yet my hear hurts. Great detective. I think he is the same who dealt with that sick Colonnel.
1 likeTheBreadSandwich he was wearing me down. I wouldāve screamed OK, I DID IT, just STOP talking!
4 likesHe controlled himself really well too. I can only imagine how angry he was seeing these cases over and over and over. The fact that he doesn't go rogue and just track these people down and take them out on his own is commendable.
1 like@Kristall No, you always want a confession. It wasn't just for mental torture. Without a confession, they have to work harder to get a conviction.
2 likesYeah, every time he says "okay" and "alright" a droplet drops
2 likesHe wore me down and I wasnāt even getting interrogated hahaha
3 likesWore down me too
0 likesWas sleepy and tired and felt like admitting what I didn't do
The moment Rafferty was gonna barf, it was over from there.
0 likesI think he had too much coffee.
0 likesActually the detective really never gave him a chance to denie anything, redirected him every time he veered of course, yes this detective is amazing ... firm , no nonsense to the point. Luv itā£šš
1 likeHe's wearing me down and I'm mostly innocent! And just watching this while having Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy via Psychopathic Pinnochio Politicians! Who should I call?!
0 likesWhat is water droplet torture TheBreadSandwich?
0 likesMans exhausted me Iām sleeping early tn
1 like@Tami O He didn't get the confession from Russell Williams
0 likesIt took many torpedo hits to send the battleship Bismarck to Davy Jones's locker.
0 likesHe didn't confess š but I agree, the detective did his job well. I liked how he just would shut him up immediately when he started denying what he did.
0 likes@Term1backup He really couldn't eat. He was dopesick. Same for All the snot and being cold and shakey.
0 likes@John Doe Actually he did, edgelord. I doubt you actually know anything about psychology.
0 likes@John Doe I agree, but if I think about it in terms of what the suspect didn't say or do, I can see the point of everyone saying the interrogator wore him down. His body language, his demeanor changed. He didn't become enraged while being bombarded with the fscts of the crime that any innocent person would loudly and emphatically deny (or at the very least try to argue their innocence). He was far from indifferent to what was being said - he never offered any counterpoints to the interrogator at any of the accusations. He cowers and eventually becomes even more of a sniveling mess. My opinion is, I think his actions, his crimes were so abhorrent and horrific, he was never going to say he did it, no matter what is presented to him that proves he did all of it.
0 likesThe term "man" doesn't apply here with him, as the only ones visible are wearing suits and ties.
0 likesHe didn't wear him down far enough. There was no confession.
0 likesGod Bless this detective!! I would never be able to hold back my anger. If police brutality could ever be overlooked, this is the case!! 8 years old!! Imagine the anger you would have if you were that child's parents!!
13 likesThis investigation specialist is such an amazing badass! I couldnāt even look at this guy, talk to him? Absolutely not. Itās awesome, almost a relief to know that thereās police in this world like this one.
9 likesThe psychology behind this is so interesting to me. It makes me wish I would have got into law enforcement.
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I was extremely close to getting into law enforcement, but ended up not going through with it since I thought extensively about the types of people I may interact with (like michael) and what kind of effect it would have on me. I knew I wouldn't be able to handle it.
1 likeThe horror and terror that that poor little girl must have felt haunts me bc I've seen his video a year or two ago this guy bad as they get. Thinking about what the sweet innocent girl went through is traumatizing for me to even think about it I can't imagine what it was like for her. I hope she's happy and health in heaven with the Lord.
12 likesI feel like his whole "vomiting fit" was an attempt for him to get out of the room. He thought they would take him to the bathroom and he would get some time alone as a break but I love that he handed him a trash can and said "use it. Do it in front of me it won't bother me" and all of a sudden magically he doesn't vomit or need to for the rest of the interrogation
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Another technique to make the monster feel isolated... staying in the room for hours, not having Any chance to leave
88 likesI love the way the investigator even shot him down immediately with that. The moment that piece of shit put his hand over his mouth the investigator was already up and coming back with the trash can.
71 likesApparently he was detoxing off heroin so he very well may have actually felt like puking. (Also explains the crying and the blanket.) I don't think he'd get very far out of the room in this state lol. Though it is a bit odd how he doesn't have to throw up again so who knows.
30 likes@Lua ā¾ļø
2 likes@Lua catch
1 likeWell sometimes I've felt like I would vomit but then I can make it go away and it doesn't come back.
3 likesto be fair it could be real in a situation where someone is extremely stressed or under duress u can get physically sick and the reason y i think he didn't actually throw up was because he didn't eat anyhing
6 likeswoulnt he just ask to use the restroom then?
1 likeI realize this interrogation was two years ago, but I first Iāve heard of this case and watched the video. This interrogator is absolutely amazing. He uses so many tactics. He starts with using the victims name. Then switches to āthat girl,ā he talks so much, I want to confess just to get him to shut up. LOL. Amazing interrogator.
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This interrogation was from 2009. The crime happened in 2009. Not 2 years ago. Toro would be turning 22 this July. Iām from close to where this happened and it was huge news
0 likesJust want to say I really enjoy your videos and your narration. I really like how you give facts and keep emotion out of it. I would have a very difficult time, especially with cases like this... I wish TERRIBLE things for this POS, and I would do that to him if given the chance.
9 likesIām just gonna say as a Canadian we have super dedicated officers and detectives not always a great thing but Iām saying I know officers that have been on the force 10-15 years and they look 30. the dedication is amazing.
19 likesIncredible performance from that interrogator. The fact that he can sit there and act like that man isnāt a piece of dumpster shit, and do his job, and not let him deny his guilt is amazing. This man doesnāt deserve to get the release of death, he deserves to rot in jail for the rest of his life.
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His name is Jim Smith and he's a master of luring you into thinking he's your friend. It's actually scary how good he is. His interrogation of Russel Williams is very good and can be watched here - https://youtu.be/jJZv3z7FOt0
0 likesFor some reason it really hurts my heart that Tori went with that woman because she wanted to see a puppy. She just wanted to see a puppy and instead this awful thing happened to her. I am so sad
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I watch a lot of this stuff (for some reason) and this is the angriest I've been.
267 likesit's beyond wrong, there's nothing ever okay about it. children need to be told outright that they must never follow anyone off the course they're meant to be on ie walking home from school or at the playground etc even if that person is familiar (like the woman was) or is literally anyone but the immediate caretaker that put the child there to begin with. that poor baby wasn't taught how to exist in a world of monsters and those monsters aren't being bred out of this corrupt world anytime soon. they are decay to everything they go near and wish to darken bright lights like innocent children, and so we just sacrifice, as a village, some of that innocence in them to warn them how to protect themselves when we're not there to. it's much less devastating than this, this is nearly unbearable
134 likesWhat I don't understand is why that chick even helped that sicko lure a child to his car. I mean, why? Why would she even want to take part in something like that is baffling.
272 likesJT Jones my guess is for drug money.
67 likesalbatross it is not as simple as teaching a kid to not go with anyone but their parent, grandparent or babysitter. Kids can be so easily manipulated.
151 likesI watched a show a few years back where they took kids whose parents had given them that instruction. Then they had the parents and kids meet up in a park. Every kid, one at a time, was lured away by an actor. The parents were shocked as they really thought their kids had learned to avoid strangers.
Same :(((((((((((( it hurts me so much
10 likesFor some reason?
9 likesOMG this is exactly how I felt too,that was what really broke my heart!my own little 7 year old loves dogs and puppies like many children...truly broke my heart when that was said š
27 likesThis is the kinda story my mom would warn me about incessantly as a child. Honestly I wouldnāt have gone with anyone who promised me seeing a puppy because I had heard so many stories about that specific persuasion technique. Unfortunately I imagine poor Tori didnāt know about that.
38 likes@Sunshine_Tidings I don't even know why I watch these. I go about my day angry afterwards.
14 likes@JT Jones She later admitted to being the one that killed Tori. So she's just as sick as he is.
36 likesI do not understand why parent is not there to pick up child, nor what school does not have supervisors ensuring children are getting on the bus or going with a parent? Why was she not taught, NEVER talk to strangers, and always go straight to the bus or stay at school till parent comes to get you? I do not understand. Child as young as toddler needs to be constantly taught to not go with strangers, and safety precautions. Make ls me so angry.
5 likesByt then again, this could happen as they walk to the school bus, take a walk around the block, or walk home from school. I was a helocopter mom, and could not bear to have my eyes on my child. I was obsessed and scared when he had to walk to the school bus, ai made sure other parents and kids went everyday if I did not walk with him.
I hate these kidnappers.
@yarnpower so crazy, I remember that show too but when I go to look it up, all I see is Joey Salads from YouTube. This was a legit show that would come on tv, I remember because my parents were obsessed with it. Thereās no trace of it.
2 likes@albatross I'm sure she was taught not to go with strangers. In Canada its common in school curriculum to teach about it. The problem seems to be that we always portray the "Bad guys" as like an old creepy looking man in a van trying to snatch kids off the street which isn't realistic. We need to make sure they realize that even kind looking young women and even other kids can harm you all the same.
26 likesIām 35 and honestly could be lured with a kitten.
18 likes@Sunshine_Tidings (for some reason) lmaooooo. Same
0 likesIt's really scary because even kids that have been taught that bad people will say things exactly like "will you help me find my puppy?" or "I have some ice cream/candy in my car for you", the kids forget that they've been warned about this & go with the person anyway. There have been pretend situations to show parents what their kid will do in specific situations... It's terrifying.
12 likesP. S. I have an 8 year old who I regularly have these conversations with & worry that he'll be tricked into something. I'd rather scare my kid a bit & have him be super cautious. Also, we're (parents) being taught now to not even refer to people as "strangers", but rather "tricky people" because a stranger might say "well, my name is Bob, now we're not strangers anymore". Creepy & sick & a whole lot of other nasty descriptive words.
I feel the same. I'm heartbroken. :(
3 likesSame. Poor girl.
4 likes@albatross I prefer doing that and never leaving a kid alone. The danger needs to be talked about more.
2 likes@Dejavu Psychic Speaks because parents have work and busses dont always drop kids off close to where where live. My parents have always gotten off work HOURS after school released us. The entirety of elementary school u had to soend an hour walking home every day because it was the closest my bus was willing to drop me off. Almost got snatched once šØ scary shit
7 likes@albatross she probably was taught and If that's wasn't thats surprising lol
0 likesThis breaks my soul š
1 like@albatross I got molested by my high schooler baby sitter. Itās not always that clear cut. I was told to stay with them.
7 likes@EVA-01 me too. I described in graphic detail to my kids.
0 likesI completely agree. I think, for me, her thinking she was going to see a puppy just adds to her innocence.
5 likesIt's so fvcking heartbreaking
0 likesWe need to use this as a cautionary tale and warn our children to never go with a stranger anywhere for any reason and be very blunt and matter of fact
7 likesI hope this little girl is in heaven with all the cutest puppies. My heart breaks for her.
2 likes@albatross It's possible she was taught not to ever go off with a stranger or fall for the puppy trick, but got too excited and forgot what she was taught. Kids that young are often easily distracted and manipulated.
0 likesprobably. an addict will do anything
0 likesIt makes me glad that, when I was younger, (about 12 or 13) I denied a car ride to my school because it looked like I was having a bit of a tough time. I had to put on a hoodie while holding a big clarinet case and then put my large backpack on. Before I could even assess who was in the car, my brain kicked in and said, "Do not accept this car ride by any means," because my mom would always tell me to never accept things from strangers.
0 likesI don't think they were bad people because right after I said, "No, thank you," they drove off without another word. There could be a multitude of reasons for that, but it doesn't really matter much.
@JT Jones she likely was a victim as a young girl and he preyed on that part of her. She has felt being without any power and he lured and manipulated her into doing it and making him happy, gaining power back, it happened to her so itās āfairā shit like āyou went through it, donāt you ever see little girls and think how unfair it is that they live a life without a care in the world when we both know bla bla blaā
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0 likesThis happened not too far from my city. I remember when she went missing and all the posters up looking for her. These people didn't get enough, especially Terri Lynn. For a while she was in a healing lodge. I wish we had the death penalty here. I haven't seen the whole video yet, so it might be mentioned but apparently they're actually sending special food for him because guards were putting glass in his food. Let him eat the glass. He deserves more that that.
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Thats terrific, glad to hear about the glass
8 likesI think the ābad copā shouldāve pulled the guys blanket away forcefully leaving the dude feeling naked, vulnerable ,and a lower sense of security.
31 likesThere are some cases that are so unbelievably heinous and evil that the death penalty is the only way justice can truly be served. This case is definitely one of them. Every second that ticks by that a child rapist and murderer stays alive is a crime against humanity, even if the they are rotting away in prison for life (at taxpayer expense).
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for woman it would be the same with the blutoris
0 likesTorture then death
4 likesIt's not a deterrent and makes society just as savage the people they're killing.
3 likes@Monkey Tennis It's also more expensive apparently because death penalty cases get tied up in court forever
0 likesI hope the prison population becomes aware of how he got there.
0 likes@Monkey Tennis that makes no sense
0 likesI truly admire the knowledge and patience of these behavioral psychologists and detectives being so calm and professional treating the humanoid monsters that are in front of them. I'd physically torture them until they told me all details about the case, plus all the sick fantasies they ever had.
8 likesāiām too sick to talk, this has been intenseā imagine what the poor little girl thought in the last moments of her life.
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yeah, and heās out here feeling sorry for how he feels? please
330 likesT'is a sad and horrific prob two or three generation of narcissistic DID and other results from either their own parents treating their children like sh*t and poor education, watchng trash and trashy channels, groups et al :{
32 likesThis kind of stuff happens every day in sweden and more than 90% of the guilty People who admitted to it they dont even get sent to prison sweden is fuckt
50 likes@Za1cko and their "prison" Is a cabin on a small island with fishing gear, not even kidding
37 likes@Mitch Kuhn I have not heard about that all i know is that they get ps4s and xboxes in their cell
25 likesGirl I'm already furious I can't
6 likes@Mitch Kuhn that's norway. Youtube it
13 likes@Za1cko what are you even on about murder doesnt happen very often in Scandinavia
9 likes@Winter Dream You're right but unpunished guilty rapists are really common here in sweden.
33 likes@Za1cko I was introduced to this aspect of Swedish culture/law enforcement through the girl with the dragon tattoo. Obviously it's a work of fiction, but I did a lot of background reading and the author was very much inspired by the judicial mentality in Sweden.
15 likes@Za1cko thank you, that's a good rebuttal against the insults about the American justice system
1 like@spenc k if reading is too hard for you, why bother?
2 likeswhat she felt was sickening unrelenting suffering and terror then death
13 likesThis guy is lucky to live in the post-Enlightenment times. Otherwise his remains would be adorning a spike somewhere.
It disgusts me when these types cry. They dont get the right to feel anything other than eternal suffering. Buried alive and amputated with no sedatives, until the knocking stops is how I suggest justice be dished out to people like this.
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0 likesShe thought ā oh gosh this hurtsā
1 likeYou can access PlayStation 2 and Xboxes (no modem) in prison in the UK, if your convicted of hour average crimes, but u don't just get given it. you have to become an enhanced behaviour based on conduct which takes minimum 3 months and then you have to pay for it from your prison earnings. You earn between Ā£ 8-20 a week. It's a controversial topic, but the idea is to reward positive behaviour based on rehabilitation, but it's a myth that u just get given it. The prisoners will be working from about 8-4 mon-fri, and can only play it during lock down from about 5pm until 8 am
4 likes@Kenty Iluminada exactly what I was thinking. He needs to be interrogated by professional torturorers
2 likes@Nah yup
0 likes@j r agreed
0 likes@Za1cko youāre kidding!! š¤Æš¤Æš¤Æ
0 likes-š¤* I donāt think he cares. If he did he wouldnāt have done it
0 likesI feel sick thinking about it
0 likesā@Dammn Deejay unfortunately not
0 likes@Za1cko I need to find a documentary on this! Incredible!! What the hell?!
0 likes@Za1cko Sadly
0 likesā@Dammn Deejay i dont think there is one because most of the time they get their "punishment". But i dont think 2 weeks per rape is enough.
0 likes@Za1cko yea thatās ridiculous! Iām disgusted!
0 likesI don't feel like people think much after being hit on the head with a hammer
0 likes@Emma Irving I didnāt say anything to you
0 likes@theblackphenom Re-evaluate your life choices.
0 likes@Sad Trombone go finish your hw kiddo
0 likes@theblackphenom Gladly :)
0 likesI love how he feels entitled to receive sympathy for feeling hungry after he killed a little girl.
0 likes@Quantum Crash Pretty sure the Geneva Convention and agreements say that all people deserve food/water, including prisoners.
0 likesBonnie ella lol you look familiar. Do you travel alot with the public bus?
0 likesI'd rather not.
0 likesIām certain the detectives chairs squeaking is apart of the interrogation. Excellent work by both Detectives!
0 likesThese analyses are brilliant, I feel guilty that I enjoy the technical aspects and forget or at least minimise the fact there is a tragic death of an innocent always involved. I kind of put it to one side, like it's done. EDIT. OK this one is different, this has the smell of the 1960s Moors Murders in Manchester. Hindley and Brady. She lures the kid then he does what he did. Horrific.
11 likesIf you pay attention, around 29:00 the detective reveals what happened to Tori after she was abducted and taken to the HomeDepot and then her final resting place. The killer nods, ever so slightly as the detective retraces his footsteps.
21 likesWhat a great interrogator. It seems like Michael's sentence should have been much longer than hers.
14 likesOne thing not really talked about is the emotional toll this takes on law enforcement. Think about the police who had to witness the discovery of Toriās brutally beaten body. Even the investigator who had to interview this piece of trash and pretend to be friendly with a person they probably wanted to strangle. Absolute masterpiece of a job done by the Ontario police.
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Yeah. I was just thinking to myself that this is a job I don't think I could do. Huge respect.
66 likesThis is the job I'm training to do. Currently doing a masters degree to go into this job. I hope one day im as good as these folk
113 likesI agree
2 likesliterally
1 like@Nettie Booth good luck too you in your education and future experiences!
29 likesWe have good police and even better coffee
2 likesLast night at my work (gas station) a guy came in freaking tf out.
16 likesHe picked up a half naked woman who was handcuffed running down the highway.
She was kidnapped by a group of men and assaulted.
Crimes this devastating effect everyone around them.
@Shelby Manners she probably is, he didnt mention if she was hurt, im not sure if they caught the rapists tho, eh.
0 likes@Nettie Booth Good luck with it! I hope you bring some monsters like this to justice.
6 likesVicarious trauma
0 likesThatās actually something that is getting a lot more attention now. People in these kinds of jobs often suffer from ptsd, and the burnout rate is really high. Thereās been more effort and funding put into psychological services for the people who do these kinds of jobs, so that they can stay mentally healthy.
11 likesMy uncle has been a detective for the last 20 years. A couple of months ago he divulged some of his experiences to his family just to get it off his chest. I can tell you that each and every murder, rape and other crime he witnessed stuck with him forever. Last year he left the force because of a burn-out. He was busy investigating a crime that implicated another cop on the force and he decided then and there he had enough of it. You have to be very strong mentally to deal with this shit on a daily basis. My uncle told me he initially kept going because the rewarding feeling after nailing the perpetrator outshone the bad. I guess it got too much in the end.
16 likesWord!!! Reason why they're good at this job is because they see the bigger picture and approaches the interrogations with so much techniques
4 likes@Nettie Booth Just keep in mind that youāre doing an INTERROGATIONā¦that means you shut up & let the accused speak. Ask leading questions, not a dang novel they can ignore & simply listen toā¦..
2 likes@Nettie Booth good luck nettie!! doing gods work
2 likesI am pretty sure the detective is used to it. We humans get used to all kinds of shit, no matter how fucked up. He isn't acting he is just doing his job on autopilot, casually taking a sip of his coffee. No problemo. Probably a master at what he does aswell.
0 likes@Nettie Booth What exactly do you have to major in to do this? and also wish you the best on your journey! hope you do great!
1 likeI do wonder if her parents told her never talk or leave with strangers. Iām not blaming the parents but I do wonder. Also if she were told, then how many times? Schools should be teaching kids that as much as the fucking pledge of allegiance
0 likes@Nettie Booth Good luck and please take care of your mental health as well!
1 likeIām thinking about the toll on Toriās classmates. This is the sort of thing I was terrified of at that age. Her classmates had to go through the reality that this happens, and happened to somebody they knew and loved.
0 likesDon't know how they did it, I know I couldn't do what they do
0 likesThink about if people in Canada had the threat of the death penalty to deter their crimes!
0 likes@Nettie Booth good luck
1 likeMy uncle was a police officer responsible for looking over evidence in paedophilia cases, after 20 years at the job he became a serious alcoholic and sadly killed himself.
0 likesI would not have been able to leave that room with him still alive, no way I could do that job, I would have a murder charge on the fist Chileās murder case I worked
0 likes@Nettie Booth ššš
1 like@dddddddddddcdddedbd thank you š¤
0 likes@Robin Huff I know :) let them dig themselves a hole :)
0 likes@Taylor I'm doing criminal psychology and criminolgy :)
1 like@K N I'm already working on this :) I try and manage my mental health as best I can with therapy :)
0 likes@John Copenhaver thank you!
0 likesThis always gets to me . These detectives have to be nice to these awful people
0 likes@lowlowseeseeit was a small, safe town. I grew up in London, 30 min away, and I was told these things. Not so much in small town ontario. Small town ontario is safe. Typically.
0 likes42:40 , He says he doesnāt feel comfortable talking about it but the fact that he felt comfortable doing it is just plain wrong and disgusting. I will never feel any remorse for him and his actions.
13 likesThis is horrific, that poor little girl. And that revolting woman that lured her to her rapist and murderer. And he's upset that if he talks he's going to loose his life & freedom. The detective is so good....I couldn't sit in that room with him remain calm. This will stick in my mind for awhile. so effin sad
10 likesI have never seen someone press someone else so much for answers. Incredible detective! So patient and composed
6 likesThis is the kind of case that cops need to have a plan in place for him to "escape" and get brought to a warehouse in the middle of nowhere so the families, friends, police, and members of the community can show up when they need to let off some steam and torture this guy for decades. I mean he gets the best medical care to make sure he doesn't die. The father could sleep there making sure he's always safe, and awake, and healthy. With enough time, and intensity, you could cause everything else about him to fall away. After long enough, he could forget everything before the pain. Eventually he will believe he's lived his whole life in that room in agonizing pain. He'll forget he had a family, friends, he could even forget his name. All he would know is pain. And when he's experienced enough pain, and he thinks he's lived his entire
0 likesI love the part when the second detective comes in and JCS basically says āthis isnāt part of any known technique, heās just livid and freestylingā
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Hes freestyling
245 likesSpeaking off the cuff
106 likesThat's fuckin sgt. Smyth. JCS just acknowledging a legend at work.
215 likesThis detective spittin
108 likesoff the dome
60 likesHarvey Quinn Only person that Eminem is afraid off!
22 likes@Chappal Souls Just seen a interview with him and hes good
4 likes@Chappal Souls Jim Smyth! Watch him take down Russell Williams!!!
25 likes@Jeralee Wood is he the same guy?? damn if he is then I agree, the guy who took down that scumbag of Williams is a master of interrogations
5 likes@HH that's... a really poor comparison/joke
2 likesgoosebumps
0 likesItās called the detective is a father and hurting kids isnāt cool!
2 likesBoo yeah
1 like@Isak Ottner hes turned into a political crybaby.
0 likes@NiL so, he's catching up to you
0 likes@Fang1241 "no u"
0 likesGreat point. Guess I'm done for.
@NiL I'm not the one crying on YouTube
0 likesright lol bring em in the interrogation room ans start talking and the moment they say I didnāt do it you pull out the glock and empty the magazine
0 likesBars ;)
0 likesSame
1 likeSpitting bars like a demon stuck inside a piano
3 likes@Marlow P you just don't understand the meme
0 likesHe lets him have it.
0 likes" How old are you, Mike? 28 years old? Get rid of your fucking security blanket and start being a man" The way that cop dragged this piece of shit was amazing.
20 likes"Thats why pencils have erasers! Mistakes happen :)" The amount of composure you have to have to sit two feet away from someone who not only raped murdered and manipulated a child, had 17g of child porn on his hard drive (Like jesus christ dude) and is whimpering like the puppy his victim never got to see, but also has the gull to sit there and DENY he even did it
18 likesHonestly I can see the efficacy of the technique of the police officer rambling on to tire the suspect out. I'm watching on YT and I've had to pause a couple times just to get a quick break before I continued and I can tell I'm starting to feel mentally fatigued only after a couple of minutes. Having to deal with this for hours would be super tiring. No wonder interrogators do things like this.
4 likesThis interrogator deserves a raise. In fact anyone who has to listen to a play by play of Child S.A. definitely deserves sainthood.
9 likesIām doing my degree with hopes of helping children who have been S.A. and I know Iāll have to interview the adult perpetrators. Iām praying for self control!
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Raise? Did he make him talk? He us just a parrot
0 likesThis absolute failure of a human being wallowing in his self pity like he didnāt just abuse and murder a poor 8 year old child. Makes me sick.
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Some folks fall for that kind of stuff.
8 likesHe's not wallowing in his self-pity, though I'm sure there's a lot of it. What he's doing here is acting. Pure evil. He thinks if he looks pitiful enough, it'll influence the interrogators and, later, the jury. It's not until after the interrogator tells him innocents don't act like how he's been acting that he stopped his insufferable fake sniffling and commitment to looking down.
135 likesSame here, the fact that he is acting it all is even more infuriating.
28 likesBring back public execution
66 likesIt looks like he's completely broken. It mostly isn't an act tbh, but he's not being like that out of remorse, he's just scared out of self-preservation.
14 likesAlso it almost looks like he's withdrawing from opiates.
I feel like vomiting
0 likesRape and Murder***
2 likes@Hayley Execution is cheaper. And brings fear toward other pottenial murderers.
16 likes@Willem Gijs executions been around forever yet murders still happen everyday so is it really about scaring murderers or to satisfy you ?
9 likes@Lloyde Ruff it's cheaper. And I don't even watch those. Bye arguments. Inhuman people like this we can rather save costs.
10 likesAgreed
0 likes@Lloyde Ruff to satisfy us and save taxpayers money.
9 likes@Willem Gijs I disagree, but that has been debated to death at this point. Why 'public' execution; what does that solve outside of fetishising killing someone?
4 likesIndeed. I tell ya if justice was truly done at the end of the trial, he would have been drawn and quartered.
4 likes@Stephen Turner sigh
0 likes@Hayley - I respect your opinion, but I think the brutal death of a child deserves an equal sentence.
13 likes@Stephen Turner I think we as a society are better than that and locking them away for life is just as good.
1 like@Hayley - Life in prison is an acceptable punishment for a lot of crimes, but there are some that are so heinous in my opinion that a brutal execution is justified. I don't see it as something we're 'better than'. I think it's perfectly reasonable and not shameful in the slightest. Of course that's my opinion.
10 likes@Hayley hardly. science says if youāve done something once, youāre automatically inclined to do it again. murder, rape, and child crimes should almost ALWAYS result in executions. prisons be mad overcrowded worldwide and locking people up for life literally is the WORST thing you could do. public executions are known to cause a sense of unity within the people as well as giving them the ability to resonate with those who enforce the laws. and if you have the chance to enforce laws, youāre much more likely to respect them.
9 likes@FallenSully depends on the country maybe. I thought here. In the Netherlands it was cheaper. But of course you're right. Can't compare 2 different countries. We are to nice for prisoners. It's like a hotel.
4 likes@Willem Gijs maybe. I couldnāt say one way or the other.
0 likes@FallenSully - We're speaking of 'what should happen' and not the real logistics of execution in this case. Arguing how long it takes to give an inmate an execution with their unlimited appeals, the cost of drugs, and special housing is something that could be reasonably argued though. It shouldn't cost that much to take out the trash. I imagine it only costs governments of our fore-fathers the price of rope, wood scaffolding, and and executioner to get the job done. Bare in mind, my feelings are for this case alone.
1 like@Hayley - I don't know if any studies exist for how hangings increase community cohesion; doubt there are any. But I think it's unfair to assume we're just getting a euphoric rush from watching an execution rather than a fulfillment of justice being carried out; an ending.
3 likes@Stephen Turner I see no difference between the two. I get a finallity from a criminal getting conviced and sentenced. I would have no desire to watch someone get killed; in fact I would actually hate it. I just don't want to endorse the state killing people.
1 likeEvil
0 likes@Hayley how is a quick, relatively painless death fetishizing?
4 likes@Zach Robertson wanting to see someone publicly executed is undeniably fetishising retributive justice.
1 like@Zach Robertson I understand your point of view. A lot of people clearly don't agree with my position and I don't really want to argue this further.
0 likes@Bluebonez yes nothing I said conflicts with your comment. Maybe try reading next time instead of jumping to emotion?
0 likes@Hayley but it does because you think it's going to be all fixed just throwing him in a cell for life. It's not. Because of this terrible crime he should be given the eye or an eye treatment. I understand not wanting public murder and all that, that's fine. He does not deserve my tax payers money at all.
5 likes@Bluebonez is never said it's going to be fixed. People like this cannot be rehabilitated and returned to society; you're putting words in my mouth.
1 likeAs said before, the expense of endless legal appeals and carrying out the execution is in most cases more expensive than just imprisoning them for life.
Your economic argument is a distraction, just admit retributive justice makes you feel better inside and we can argue from there. Why the red herring?
@Hayley I never made a economic statement so "stop putting words into my mouth" I so never said it would fix everything I just said it's not the proper punishment for someone so sick :/
5 likes@Hayley I agree with you on public execution being unnecessary.
1 like@Bluebonez no, YOU said I implied it would be fixed by just throwing him into a cell.
0 likes@Bluebonez and you made an economic statement when you mentioned taxpayer dollars going towards incarceration.
0 likes@Zach Robertson in that case, š
0 likes@Hayley I never meant it in the literal sense and I'm sorry you took it that way but you did put it in my mouth about economics I was just saying I personally would rather not waste my tax payers money on a terrible cruel person.
5 likes@Hayley Justice. Rafferty was convicted of beating a child to death with a hammer, remember?
5 likes@andrea gass yes i do, your point?
0 likes@Hayley I have to say I agreed with you in the beginning but your condescending behavior isn't doing you any favors.
5 likesNo body is implying that people should be executed based on emotion or without evidence. People who advocate for the death penalty don't automatically "fetishize" death.
@Austin Jennsen Yes of course people don't say that. I cannot see any other reason why people would want public executions.
1 likeIf people either don't advocate for that or don't provide some other valid reason then I'm going to make assumptions. I find it barbaric and disgusting so excuse me if I come off as "condescending".
@Hayley If you want to straw man the opposing argument I won't stop you. I actually agree that the death penalty should be illegal.
5 likesBut if someone supports a public death penalty and you have to "assume" that they must derive some sick pleasure from it than you are unfairly inserting your own assumptions on someone else. If you are truly confident in your opinion than you shouldn't have to resort to such a tactic.
@Austin Jennsen Yes I will assume that as out of all these responses, nobody has given me a reason not to assume that. Attacking a strawman would imply that the people I'm arguing against haven't been given a chance to respond. They have.
1 likeā@Hayley My point is that people who brutally murder children don't deserve to live. You can disagree if you'd like
5 likes@Hayley Do you remember being a child? Can you imagine what she went through?
4 likes@Lloyde Ruff Iām not sure if it directly correlates with everywhere else, but in California since Newsome has chosen to not carry out executions, the murder and violent crime rate has grown a portion.
2 likesThe people of the community should have the option of street justice in such a clear cut evil case
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0 likesHe was partially in shock but also stonewalling very hard
0 likesI can't wrap my brain around that... how can you do such a cruel thing and then act like that
0 likes@Badly Rosenthal think about people who get sentenced and after years new evidence is found and it turns out they werent guilty but well... They ve been executed so that's a shame, but shit happens right?
0 likes@UqiZbuqi the denotation of your words is 100% correct.
0 likesHeās going thru opioid withdrawal lmfao
0 likesThen don't watch it
0 likesExactly, I hope he's someone's girlfriend in jail
1 likeGood work not only for the jurors or lawyers but the detectives who questioned him. I can only imagine their state of mind, self control and persevearenceā¦ shout out to all who got this monster behind bars. š
2 likesI still remember what I was doing that day, and I was also 8. I was so excited that I got to wear a pink dress, some wedge shoes, leggings and a headband, something I wouldnāt usually pick out, but was happy to wear. I can also relate going back for some earrings, I lost one, coincidentally also butterfly, from a pair once and went on a whole mission to look for it during recess. My point is, children are so innocent, how can anyone look at them and think such horrific acts. People like that canāt be fixed and need to be the ones who go for the greater good of humanity.
10 likesAs the father of a just-turned three year old girl I am in tears watching this; what an evil evil evil bastard! There can be no punishment we can inflict on him that is horrific enough to punish him, but by god I wish the Canadian state would try a bit harder.
7 likes:(
I love this interrogator. He's cool as a cucumber. Nothing throws him! Gonna get sick? No problem, I've seen it before. "I'm just trying to find out why you did it"...not even "did you do it". Love it.
10 likesHis biggest fear is that he is going to lose his life. Yet he never stopped to think thatās how that poor little girl feltā¦ what a monster
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Exactly!! Fricken scumbags!! This breaks my heart for that little girl!
88 likesReally makes you sick to your stomach watching these people but very interesting nonetheless
48 likes@Salmon Sandwich funny joke
13 likesShows how psychos think, only for themselves.
7 likesIt's Canada there's no death penalty there
4 likes@Leah he personally because of his comment?
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2 likes@Salmon Sandwich Don't cut yourself on that edge.
4 likesThat's what gets me the most. They're like evil selfish children
0 likesIf losing his life was his biggest fear, maybe he should've, oh, I dunno, NOT committed heinous crimes against a poor innocent child! Guess it never crossed his mind that he'd be perfectly fine if he just left her alone...
5 likesMakes me sick
0 likes@Oskar Hackenthal Is that just a saying or do you legitimately feel that sickness?
0 likes@Visassess it's a saying but honestly this is so disgusting I wouldn't put it past anyone to throw up in their mouths a little bit watching shit like this
0 likesHe's not going to lose his life,m he's in Canada!
0 likes@Maurice Faurron 25 years without Parole is still a long time, and because, the felony stacks, the Judge may extend his Parole ineligibility. He committed not only to being an Accessory to a Murder, but also Sexual Assault to a Minor, both are punished by the same For Life Sentence. 2 felonies, both 25 years without parole. He may get 50 years without Parole, if he's at least 30 years old... That means he would be at least above 80 years old by the time he is allowed parole. He is good as dead by then
0 likesThis interrogator is amazing. How does he manage to sit talking to this POS, and act as if the crime isn't that bad. His instinct must be to beat the shit out of the guy, but he controls himself to get a confession. It takes a very special person to do this job without going insane.
5 likesThe BSU is my most favourite department of all. John Douglas, Robert Ressler, Roy Hazelwood and Mary Ellen O'Toole, they're my heroes! Kudos to their dedication and hard work in creating and working in the Behavioural Sciences Unit. Many police interrogations are based on their system. Edit: Also, RIP Robert Ressler who is no longer with us š He passed away in 2013 from Parkinsons Disease.
1 likeThat is so hard to watch. I'm feeling sick to my stomach. Words cannot even describe how disgusted I am by that excuse of a human.
16 likesMad respect to the detective. I would have gone ballistic on that piece of shit.
There is absolutely nothing funny about this case but when the detective goes "you're not built for this shit" that had me rolling. 19:56
2 likesNot only are his actions disgusting his personality is also insufferable.
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He has the personality of a sixth grader who is getting grilled by his principal
90 likesIm still curious how these suspects are not handcuffed not leg cuffed when being interrogated? Like they could easily lash out at the detective
14 likes@Stephistaecated you donāt think the detective and the others watching close by would love that opportunity? I know I would
42 likesIn all Reality it probably has to do with making him comfortable so heāll be more susceptible to the detectives act. But I like my answer better
21 likesHis winey little voice too
9 likesExcellent police work! I'm not a psychiatrist but I don't think you have to be to see that something is very wrong with Michael Rafferty. Terri McClintock is no better. These detectives are better than me, I don't think I'd be able to refrain from beating people like this to death.
13 likesThank you for uploading this. I'm not from Woodstock but from a town very close to it and it was an awful, awful time. Rest in peace little Tori.
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I agree
0 likesLet it be remembered the girl begged and pleaded for Terry Lynns help too, only to have her turn her back when michael decided to kill her with FOUR hits to the skull with a claw hammer
20 likesI do enjoy watching most your videos but this one, this one makes me sick ! I am saddened that our country canāt get this shit under control . To solve this we need swiftly punish these broken humans immediately and pupblicly and I assure you all we will stop it, period! I couldnāt interrogate animals like this .
4 likesI've always wanted to be an interrogator. But I'm also afraid of what I would do to the criminal I knew was guilty while in the room. God help us
2 likesI love how the detective doesnāt skip a beat and says āThatās true. Sometimes people are arrested and thereās not much evidence but the good thing about this case is that thereās tons of evidence.ā Such an upbeat tone. I hope he smiled when he said that.
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He should get a raise for that line aloneš.
14 likesI really wish we could have had a camera angle that showed both their faces.
14 likesThat reminds me of the polygraph detective giving Chris Watts a lie detector test.
20 likes"Right now, only one of us knows the truth. In a few minutes, there are going to be two people who know the truth! š"
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2 likesYeah thatās crazy
2 likesOut of all the videos JCS has uploaded this one really got the best interrogator. He doesn't give the suspect a chance to even gain some breather he's empathetic but cuts the suspect when he tries to say he's innocent. Cold and efficient damn that's a combo the piece of sht never had a chance.
0 likesYou can tell that news reporter was at a lost for words and just wanted to cry in relief because of how heartbreaking this case was. šÆ
1 likeI've seen lots of comments on other videos from this channel, like the one about the punk who shot up Stoneman Douglas High School, where people are saying things like "how does the investigator act so calm and professional in the same room with the murderer who killed all those students and teachers and not just beat the guy" and I've always thought that well, the cops got a job to do and it would be unprofessional and it could hurt the case, etc etc etc.
5 likesWell, I think I'm about to be a hypocrite here because if I was in a locked room with a disgusting animal like this excuse for a man who had done what he did to a sweet little eight-year-old girl I wouldn't be able to control myself. I'm shaking now just typing this. I would put that animal down...period. I don't think I can actually type in public the horrifically graphic things I would do to him.
I dont understand how the investigator can restrain himself like this. Just a special kind of human.
2 likesI get the impression this detective goes home and tells himself about how his day went.
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Omg, your comment made me laugh out loud even with the most horrific subject matter! Well done.
296 likesYours along with, "This guy could talk the hinges off of a gate"
@Jen Pearson chill
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13 likesComment is seriously under acknowledged. More likes needed
35 likes@Jen Pearson he would have gotten a confession from me. That was more torture than water boarding.
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3 likesHahahahahahahAha
3 likesLmao
1 likeLMAO
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2 likesHe once talked water out of being wet. He's the most interesting detective in the world.
56 likesThat does make sense. To understand people you need to understand yourself, since you are the person you have most info on. I do it from time to time and I'm not a forensic psychologist.
16 likes@Zayan Mendoza why are you offended
13 likeslol what in the world š¤£š
2 likesSame that was a golden hilarious comment well done š
5 likesReally good laugh after this mentally draining, but extremely educational interview from JCS
7 likesDyingšššš
2 likesI do that....
2 likesLook at his interrogation with Russell Williams. Totally different tactic, very professional using a calm soothing voice.
10 likes@Dewey McQueen yes, heās amazing at what he does, I want to see more interrogations with him
7 likesššš I was just thinking āwhy is this detective talking so much?!ā
3 likes@Dewey McQueen Wait so this is the same detective as the one that interviewed Jen in āJenniferās solutionā??? Cause when I looked it up after her video it said he interrogated Russell and some other famous person or something. Also, sorry for the essay but do you know what Russell Williams was interrogated about? What did he do?
4 likes@Naomi Rose In late January 2010, theĀ Ontario Provincial PoliceĀ discovered evidence that led them to suspect Williams' involvement in Jessica Lloyd's disappearance and death, and suspected links to two other crimes that had been committed in close proximity to other locations near Williamsā previous home. On February 7, Williams was interrogated by OPP investigator Jim Smyth and confronted with the evidence of tire tracks and boot prints at Lloyd's home. Over the next 10 hours, Williams gave a detailed confession of not only the sexual assault and murder of Lloyd, but also the sexual assault and murder of Corporal Marie-Frances Comeau and at least two other cases initially.
4 likesThe subsequent investigation into Williams brought further confessions and revealed evidence of detailed notes and photographs stored at his home. The evidence showed he had broken into at least 82 houses to steal underwear of females, including children. This behaviour later escalated to sexual assaults and later still to the rapes and murders. He was formally charged with two counts ofĀ first-degree murder, two counts ofĀ forcible confinement, two counts ofĀ breaking and entering, andĀ sexual assault.[2]Ā Another 82 charges relating to breaking and entering were later added.
I got Hotchner vibes hearing him talk. Lol
1 likeāNow I had a good day, right? Why is that? Cause Iām helping the government. And Iāve seen some bad stuff out there, Iāve seen the worst of the worst but today didnāt offend or upset me. Now when it comes to downtime, Iām not a monster, I made a mistake, I forgot to put enough sugar in my wifeās tea tonight. I have to live with that, I wish I could turn back the hands of time for her but I canāt. So what I have to do here is go watch the game anyway and be with my family.ā
14 likes@Zayan Mendoza he loves that baby
4 likes"there is no doubt in my mind" that this guys lives his work.
1 likeWow that was actually deep
2 likesThat second detective that played bad cop is exactly how Iād act if I was a detective. Iād have no sympathy for the culprit
3 likes@Dewey McQueen that was certainly a different interrogator, but i get ya.
1 like@Naomi Rose no way
0 likes@Dewey McQueen disappointed Jim took that vid off his channel(for whatever reason(he appeared to commence a "spring-cleaning" of his channel as there were others taken down too))
1 like@Title Wave - the videos are on Patreon. Lots of others, too.
1 likeI feel that be a form of meditation
0 likesāYouād take a different route home if you knew about that fender bender, wouldnāt you, Mike?ā
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0 likesHe's a professional. His talking is pivotal to closure for parents who will suffer for the rest of their lives. Comedy is about timing & I bet you weren't telling jokes about 9/11 on 9/12
0 likesOnly in the USA would someone think its appropriate to make a comment in a vain hope to make someone laugh. Would you make that comment to Tory's parents sitting in the room. The land in decadence
0 likesLmfao
0 likesThis comment wins š¤£š¤£ he can ramble brilliance like noone I've ever met!
0 likesTells himself a-boat how his day went.
0 likesI canāt watch media about children being abused and raped because it is very triggering and upsetting to think about the terror and absolute pain that these young innocent souls have to endure. Iām glad he got caught and didnāt get away with it. RIP young girl. Please rest. š
5 likesHearing the mother bad just finished decorating her room, so she was going to have a party, damn that tore my heart.
10 likesGood for Terri for testifying against him. She was called so many things in prison and has to live with the part she played, but she made sure Rafferty didn't get off on anything.
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she was a part of it, but I was so happy that she said everything. I don't want to call her a hero, because she's not one, but she showed that she had remorse and understood that what she played a part in was horrific.
4 likes@Bethany Rigdon same !! He was trying to say not guilty lol
1 likeThe bucket was such a good addition; the only 'relief' he thinks he get can get, comes from the agent. He shuts down any implications that he could be offended at every corner of any sentence, any potential interpretation, only to slap a dose of reality right after his comforting statements.
3 likes"Well the plan is not going to work, you're not built for this shit." That agent is cold as ice. What an absolute unit, he is like good cop/bad cop that got symbiosed together and work in perfect harmony.
Makes me proud of being Canadian, this is an art that ought to be respected.
so much respect for this interrogator. i would not be able to so calmly and in an understanding manner talk to this disgusting man about what he did.
3 likesIt enrages me so badly when they start crying when they get caught like you didn't just torture an innocent child and listened to her cries and screams
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Iām only a few minutes in but for him too say heās too sick to eat because itās been intense that seriously angered me š”
486 likesAlso when the investigator asks what he's scared of and he says he's scared that his life is over. Fucking sickening considering he ended a little girls life.
642 likesUh, if he showed no emotion you'd say you were enraged about that instead. Let's just get to the point and say you're just an uncontrollably angry person?
30 likeshe's probably been crying in jail ever since, or worse
31 likesabsolutely incredible If you blame Biscuit Gidoni for being āuncontrollably angryā over a senseless brutal crime against a innocent child.... then what does that make you? Are you then the tolerant, understanding advocate of this criminal??
196 likes@Pants enFuego Thank you.. His comment beyond baffled me.. I assuming he's properly one of the M.a.p. people or sympathizer..
118 likesmakes me rage stories like this
9 likes@M D Not according to @absolutelyIncredible over here saying I'm just an angry person and should have sympathy for him.. Like seriously @absolutely what the fuck?!
37 likesThese humans do not feel anything for other humans. That little girl could of been just a cow or sheep he cut up to eat. Happens everyday. We are just predator animals..and to think otherwise is foolish.
16 likesI wonder if it's real tears. Cause I can't imagine a person have emotions and doing such a horrible act.
18 likes@Nadia Iwanek it is.. tears for himself though
7 likesI was just about to comment the same thing...yeah they are crying because they were caught...that's all.
18 likes@J L Yup.. Totally fine though listening to.an innocent child scream in pain and terror.. God i absolutely hate humanity. Children and animals are so innocent and you truly have to be a soulless husk of a human to bring harm to any like that.. Like even hunters make sure the animals die quickly and with the least amount of pain as possible while people like this torture the innocent like it's nothing. God my heart hurts for that little girl and what she must of went through. Now my mind is in a dark place and my heart is sinking to my chest.. I hate it here! I absolutely do..
16 likesIt just shows that they are people too..and they feel sorry I think..deep in their hearts..they feel that this is not right...
1 like@Alexandria I would like sell you some beachfront property in Arizona.
17 likes@Alexandria The only thing he feels sorry for is himself
19 likes@Biscuit Gidoni yeah...I think You are right..it is so badš
1 like@I was raped by the Pope Are you serious?
3 likes@Kristie exactly
1 likeI was raped by the Pope .,dude.. toriās DNA was all over michaels car.. and his dna was found on her body. He definitely wasnāt set up.. Iāll bet you think Paul Bernardo is a nice guy who is just as innocent and wasting away in prison.
15 likesAgreeing 1000%
1 likeabsolutely incredible I donāt really care how he feels about the situation. Itās an entirely reprehensible situation and I hate all of it.
4 likes100%
4 likesbut it makes sense, doesn't it? if you're selfish enough to kill a little girl to satisfy your sick needs, you're probably also selfish enough to feel bad for yourself for getting caught
7 likesHe's crying because he got caught. If he had a conscience the crime would'nt have happened. Sociopaths are the worst. These kind of crimes are simply satanic. Pure and simple.
11 likes@Alexandria you're naive.
2 likesGolly!
0 likesWell he was dopesick. If he wasn't it would probably taken a lot longer to weat him down. ..
0 likes@Montez Demarrco what is?
0 likesYeah those tears only come when they know they are done.. If he hadn't been arrested, he probably wouldn't have shed a single tear and be proud of his actions.
6 likes@Nn Rr exactly
0 likes@FifinatorKlon Normally I wouldn't wish that on anyone but I hope this man lives a long life and spends all of it suffering.
2 likes@some obscure music channel I was about to say before I read the edit.. This guy had to sympathy when that little girl screamed in pain and terror while he did those things he did to that little innocent child and she had no idea why or what he was doing, all she knew was that he was hurting her and she couldn't do anything but scream and beg him to stop and the other woman to help her.. Did he cry then? I don't understand these comments replying to this that I'm so cold hearted towards this man.. As someone who's been kidnapped, impregnanted from it, and by the grace of some higher power was able to escape survive, I've seen the evil in these men. They didn't care I was tied to a bed post.. They didn't care I cried, they just paid to use me and I seen them straight in the eyes and saw nothing but evil staring back.. Men who have families and you walk by in the street and think they are just normal..
3 likesOnly because he feels bad for himself
2 likes@Samsung GalaxyJ3Prime he's crying in jail rn? good lol
0 likes@absolutely incredible Lol what??? Why did you immediately jump to that and react? It's the audacity of him to try to elicit empathy when he showed a complete lack of it for his victim. It's sick because it's psychopathic sense of entitlement. These are very dangerous individuals and are everywhere.
3 likes@Alexandria Omfg....you and your little naive bubble. No, they aren't human in any sense of the word. Research psychopathy and spend an evening watching and observing all the worst sadistic murderer interviews. You will "wake up" and learn what walks among us in disguise. Believing that a psychopath is even capable of empathy or remorse is like believing dinosaurs will make a come back. SMHš
3 likesTheir emotional range is only Narcissistic in nature. They have tears and emotions for themselves only. It's a terrifying reality.
@Wendy Nicole yeah he must
0 likes@Nadia Iwanek if it is, it's selfish bad tears for himself that is not caring proper type of tears I or most I know wud have, it's the tears some wrong person like him wud have.
0 likes@Stanton yeah
0 likesFR!! he acts as if he had seen something traumatizing,
0 likesif I the investigator didn't say anything, I would think he was a witness to such a horrible crime
Rage and anger are good emotions in the right context...this IS the right context to be enraged and angry with a fool.
5 likes@absolutely incredible lol shitty bait
0 likes@Wendy Nicole hell wonāt even take him, there must be some place worse heās going.
1 like@Biscuit Gidoni This guy is a monster, but his cries are not fake. Imagine you did something you don't feel guilty for, spend weeks just living your life and then got caught and faced possible death penalty for it. I believe his mental breakdown was genuine. It doesn't mean I any sympathy for him, he's still a monster who scared, hurt and murdered a defenceless child and expected to get away with it.
1 like@absolutely incredible trolls going troll. Have a crumb :)
1 likeThe guy who sexually assaulted me when i was 12, broke down into tears when he saw the cops standing outside his door. Of course he denied in court, but about 2 minutes later he admitted it again, then denied it. He only did 6 yrs, but it was originally suppose to be 4, but two more years got added on because of the comment he made at the end.
1 like@Wendy Nicole Heāll rot in jail. Thatās real hell.
0 likesHe's not done crying...in prison there's a code. And just before that code get's enforced he will be crying. The code is timeless...it's about access to him. The code is those who hurt or kill children will not and can not live with us.
2 likesThe only way they can feel superior is by torturing someone weaker than themselves, its disgusting.
0 likes@Jazza BigHits Turns out she later confessed to being the one who actually murdered Torri with the hammer. So yeah she's a terrible human being who only feigned remorse to seem like the less evil one.
1 like@HunterG_YT Even if she didn't do the act of murder, she lured the child which is worth life without parole anyway. But that's fucked up. Also right at the end it says they both got life without parole, so that's good
0 likes@absolutely incredible he is not upset what he had just done just that he got caught
1 likePerhaps this is why I would never want you as a prosecutor. Or defendant for that matter... Just, stay out of court at all
0 likesYeah it's crazy how, if you didn't know what he did from the start of the video...he would seem like a normal guy just sitting there being cold and hungry. And you would have sympathy for him.
1 likeBut the fact that we know what he just did makes us look at him in a completely different way.
@Biscuit Gidoni It's actually shocking how you were able to put words in my mouth, through a yt comment. I didn't say "be on his side", or to sympathize in any way. This is somewhat of a rare case when you can insta-convict someone for a crime. It usually does not go like this, and THAT is why you can't prosecute with prejudice. Go to see thr case of Casey on this same channel. You'll be like: "Of course she did it, that bitch!" .. Then see the verdict, it will rock you from your chair
0 likes@Alexandria not all of them actually. And donāt forget they feel sorry for themselves not their victims. Itās way different kind of sorry.
0 likes@Wendy Nicole I really hope he will
0 likes@Silvio TF does that have to do with this video and case in particular.. That man took a little child full of wonder and innocence who never had experience the evil of mankind and took that from her.. She didnt understand what he was doing to her or why.. She knew it hurt and was crying for someone to make it stop and hold her.. Instead he took her innocent outlook of the world and made her experience one of the most evil things man can do.. Gave her no comfort before he took her life.. Did he cry then? This isn't a case of they got the wrong person.. I'm going to tell you something personal. I have a 5 year old daughter.. She's beautiful.. Anytime we go anywhere people stop us saying how cute she is.. 6 years ago I was setup by a girl I thought was my friend and was taken by 5 men. I was constantly told I was going to end up in a ditch headless if I didn't do exactly what they said... and was told when they're done with me they may just dispose of me anyways. I was brought to a shady motel room outside of Baltimore where they paid off the people. I was put in a motel room & sold over & over again to nasty drug infected men. I was there for 4 weeks where they had me do hero....In so I was dependent on them to not be sick from withdrawals. Only one of the !enjoy was nice to me and I went into survival mode and put on an act like I liked him. When it was just me and him he took me out of the motel and took me to one of their gang's safe house.. I was there for another week but he was mad at me that I didn't want to have you know what so he "kicked me out" but really let me go & I had no shoes and I ran to a gas station & begged to use this guys phone & called my friend & he arranged another friend of mine who lived in Baltimore to come pick me up and I spent the night telling him everything that happened & cried all night holding him. The next took me to the hospital & they set me up in a rehab to kick the withdrawals. About a month later I decided to go yo the health department to make sure none of those men gave me a s....t....d . That's when I found out I was pregnant.. I was suicidal at the time and suffering from ptsd and hearing that I fell to the floor & screamed.. But she saved my life.. She gave me a reason to live & is my whole world.. You don't understand the evil in the eyes of a man doing that to you. You either fight or lay & accept it because no matter what they're going to do it.. I have extreme ptsd even 6 years later., I'm an adult & can't process what & why this happened. My biggest fear is my child experiencing that.. Any child.. So no.. I don't have ANY sympathy for a pos that can do that to a child. And none for you Em-Fers who can have any sympathy for him. He's not crying because he's sorry for what he did to her.. He's crying because he got caught & he knows what they do to men like him in prison.
0 likes@Milky Way Yeah.. Thats the thing.. Most ppl who do this kind of stuff seem normal, and nice... Just your neighbor, or coworker, or cousin.. But in a lot of ppls minds they think the people who do it look on the outside like the monsters they are.. But 99% of the time, they don't,
1 like@Biscuit Gidoni exactly. Everyone looks normal for the most part.
0 likesWell, I'm sure he is having a prometheus punishment of his own.
0 likesI can't imagine that situation and I don't want to. What I can imagine, is the torment he brought upon that little girl is happening to him as we speak and he has the rest of his life to endure it.
Prisoners don't play that shit, and his sweet ass showing up probably made a few people excited. That or they could have stomped his head in by now.
@Alef0 Yeah.. As someone who's 6 years clean I can see that.. But I think his crying is genuine.. As in it's genuine with his feeling sorry for himself not remorse for the girl.. I believe he would still cry if not dope sick.
0 likes@Alef0 good point. I don't do drugs so I wouldn't know what dope sick looks like.
0 likesI hope heās not crying for himself but for his family that found out someone so close to them is a killer
0 likesThey are only crying for themselves... It's so pathetic.
1 like@Biscuit Gidoni the girl is the one that actually killed the kid FYI
0 likesthe audacity of it right? sick people out there
1 likeRIGHT! Iām so upset at how calm the interrogator is! I know thereās tactics that must be followed! But omgggg š„ŗš¤¢
1 like@Wendy Nicole Hell doesn't exist
0 likesIām not sure how Canadian prisons are but I know here in the US, PC or not heās in big trouble.
1 like@absolutely incredible haha what
0 likesI know this sounds strange, but I still hope he doesn't receive harm in prison...
5 likes...instead, have him constantly look over his shoulder, constantly paranoid that he could be beaten at any moment. Nobody will actually attack him though, but that fight-or-flight instinct running through his veins will never leave his body and that'll bring more pain and misery than anything physical inflicted upon him
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Weird take but ok. Getting beaten up would have him constantly looking over his shoulder too. Itās not really a relief when things like this happen.
0 likesāAll she wanted to do was go home and have a little party for her friends because her mom just redecorated her room for herā fucking broke my heart. What an evil pathetic man.
5 likesMy mouth dropped, the investigator did so well at the end as he narrated the evil monster that sat before him
4 likesThe final onslaught from that lead investigator was so brutal and brilliant to watch. Such a fantastic way to let this guy squirm while not crossing any kind of line that would have gotten the case thrown out.
0 likesIs there anything more pathetic then watching a murderer cry?
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Thereās only 1 thing more vile and pathetic.. confusing then and than! Lol just playin
345 likes@Rooster Jackson good point didn't think of that
37 likesSeeing them plead their innoscence and blame circumstances. And ask for understanding
86 likes"a murderer" ? talk about broad strokes... this monster is way worse than "a murderer"
265 likesYES, Watching them breathe !!! No disrespect intended 79.
18 likesjack willis has
2 likes@Ding Chook lol that is so accurate. But remember the reason behind it
4 likes@Rooster Jackson bruh lol
2 likes@Ding Chook The Cop ask those question for Psychological Evalution. So that the couple doesnt just claim to be cookoo in court and gets of with a light sentence. Psychos get locked away in mental institutions. A smooth ride compared to prison.
18 likesIt's even more pathetic because he's crying out of self pity.
57 likesHEATHER RAINWATER Vb. Lš
1 likeHe's coming off his oxxy addiction. I really doubt this piece of crap has so much emotion
16 likes@HEATHER RAINWATER The mother's don't always determine if the child is going to be a rapist/murderer. They always blame the mothers of serial killers but what about the father? The child can have a great life and still grow up to go down a fucked up path on their own.
57 likesAnd his blankie.
17 likesu can be assured at any given oppurtunity lifers will fill this guy in hardcore
4 likesLitteraly no
1 likePeople who say davenport
1 likebreath
0 likes@HEATHER RAINWATER Her*
1 likeI'd say being one is way more pathetic than merely watching one
3 likesThan*
1 likeWatching them yak from listening to the things they did
3 likesNo. When you come to know what they did you go back and listen to the sniffling and itās nauseating
7 likesNope
0 likesAnn Ohalloran or tell other inmates what he did
3 likesExactly right
2 likesE VO I spit my tea out
0 likesOnly one...thats a murderer crying while snuggling his security blankie.
12 likesmike Lazembie and the sniffling š
0 likesEspecially the murderer of a little girl.
3 likes@Luter Leko maybe temporarily. I'm sure that would give him some immediate satisfaction. Afterwards though? He would fall to his knees and realize that nothing he ever does will ever bring her back. Nothing. And realize he is a broken man. So no, it ultimately wouldn't make him feel better.
0 likesHim asking for food.
2 likesYes the fact that I canāt put him down using my bare hands
4 likesNope. Itās disgusting pathetic.
1 likeIts just like a woman beater whose too scared to fight a man.
6 likesThe the terror of the 8 year old girl.
5 likesNot if that murderer is Richard Kuklinski.
1 likeYeah watching him still being alive
1 likenope
0 likesThis was indeed pathetic, but not all murderers are alike. This guy crying was rage inducing, I wanted to smash his skull against the concrete. But then I would be the monster then, wouldn't I? I admit I felt a little bit of empathy for the video about Lee and him crying at the end. Yeah he's a murderer too, but that may actually be 2nd degree murder (don't think he's been convicted yet), and I actually believe he deserves a 2nd chance once he's done his time. This guy however, you Canadians better not let him out. Your possibility of parole after 25 years is absolute bullshit. Same thing with Bernardo (which I admit I was unfamiliar with until I looked him up after he was referenced in this video). You give a guy like Bernardo a possibility of parole after 25 years? WTF Canada. I know he'll never be released, but just the simple fact he even has the possibility is astounding.
7 likesNo espically this man wait I can't even call him a man this thing is literally only like this cuz lawyer said don't talk and now he j feels bad for himself cuz he got caught.
2 likesI don't think there is. What's worse is that their tears are only ever for themselves and not the victims.
2 likesNo, there isnāt, I donāt think.
0 likesListening to politicians promise us stuff before the election and actually believing our ears... maybe.
3 likes"But Karl, you walked into your family reunion with a flame thrower!" "But, I didn't mean to hurt anybody, I just wanted to scare them."
0 likesworse thing is they're not even crying for the victim. they are crying because they are scared for themselves.
6 likesAnd it's always for themselves.
5 likesThe way he is sobbing makes me literally sick. Ridiculous. š¤®
9 likescrobert79 yes, watch Pelosi lie with a smile on!
2 likesYes pathetic
2 likesThe McDonaldās ice cream machine not working
2 likesYes, watching a detective coddle him.
1 likeit's sad actually. they're sick. ephesians 6:12
2 likes@Mick They do it to exhaust the suspect, and if they're telling the truth, their story will remain consistent. If they're lying on the other hand, they can't keep their story straight.
1 likeMore pathetic than that? A child murderer/rapist. Itās one level of fucked up to harm someone who has a bit of a chance at defending themselves, but itās a whole new thing to harm an innocent and defenceless child.
1 likepathetic & satisfying
1 likeYou mean MORE SATISFYING than
1 likeJust so sickening
1 likeYea, someone who doesnāt know the difference between āthenā and āthanā.
1 likeI bet Michael doesnāt know, and nor do you!
@L Lolas Im not playing (about āthenā and āthanā)
0 likesJames' Random yeah heās detoxing from opioids , hence the sniffles and eye watering
1 likeYes. I would say watching a child murderer cry is more pathetic.
1 likeYeah, I was watching this Asian guy who kill people cus they didn't give him his money back(same YT channel). Interrogator ask him he can let it out, say he's sorry. He answered "for what?"
0 likes@L Lolas well not everyone is native English speaker. Calm down !
0 likesto be fair, most people can't handle the moral guilt of crimes they may impulsively commit. I can't handle the guilt of social interactions I'm probably the only person on earth that remembers happened. If I ever rationalize killing someone, it's going to take some rather extreme circumstances. I have already rationalized that my life is worth more to me than anyone else's, especially those that would put their life in the way of mine. I would mentally collapse if I killed someone by accident, or impulsively out of some kind of rage.
1 likeEDIT: shit take, nothing here was impulsive, it was premeditated, don't listen to me I'm a cock.
EDIT2: Oh shit I think I'm going to hurl. That was far more graphic of a description than I ever want to hear about a child ever again.
Hmmm their existence maybe? There are a lot of things....
0 likes@jack willis just like Jodi arias or whatever her last name. She was freaking insane and nuts.
0 likesYes! The only thing more pathetic than watching a murderer cry is watching a child molesting murderer cry!!!!š”š”š”
2 likesHe is canadian its normal
0 likescrobert79 *than
2 likesIt's a good things all these comments are here to make things more clear.....NOT!
0 likesA hung jury when the evidence is obvious
2 likesI believe he was sniveling - not crying.
0 likes@Connie Cunningham *snivelling
0 likesKevin L but his mother did produce him. And mothers worldwide are producing countless like him.
0 likesWorse than just a murderer, a predator and a murderer who killed a little kid
1 like@HEATHER RAINWATER her mom isn't guilty here it is him right?
0 likes@P-Tech the Chesterfield
0 likesSomeone sympathizing with them would be more pathetic
2 likesAnd he cries for himself.. not bc of the victim. That makes him 1000x uglier....
3 likesExactly like how do you think that little girl felt. May she rip
1 likeYes I remember hearing about this not far from me when I was a young teen and it takes a special piece of shit to murder a child and seeing him cry is exactly something I'd expect from a weak piece of shit who defiles and murders someone who can't defend themself
3 likes@alix hanes Yup. Unfair to blame parents imo especially if say their other kids turn out fine
2 likesfr i was like sir āyou killed her..you killed a child
1 likeYep there is smthng more pathetic... The same murderer being charged 25 years
1 likeNope
1 likeYes, a child killer crying after they showed ZERO decency/care for the life they took.
1 likeYes, there is something more pathetic than watching a murderer cry and it is: being a murderer and cry!
1 likeMurderer? We need a new Term for this shit.., I have much more respect for murderer, He is a monster..,killing 8 years old girl in that way makes u ..I dont know.
0 likes@Floyd Wilkinson Amen..ššššššššššš
1 likeThere probably is something more pathetic, but I'm too tired to think about it.
0 likesOkay nevermind. Just got to the part where he started crying, and it's more pathetic than anything I have ever seen or heard. Even a, "*tips fedora* M'lady" isn't this pathetic.
0 likes@L Lolas this is my favorite grammar-nazi correction I've ever seen
0 likesāPatheticā would imply that I feel emotion towards that thing. I feel nothing.
0 likes@HEATHER RAINWATER his mom didnāt do anything wrong
1 likeIt gives me joy ngl
0 likesWatching a child murdered cry
0 likesWatching that woman who put a hit on her husband call and beg to him from the interrogation room was the lowest Iāve seen
0 likes@PotatoPrime there was a similar case of a child being abducted and molested except it was from a family friend, the father was alerted to the culprit being transferred and waited along the route then gunned him down. Years later he gets out of prison and says heād do it again without thinking and had no regrets.
0 likesGary PlauchƩ was his name in case you needed to know
No
0 likesYes, confusing "they're", "there" and "their". And I ain't playin'..
0 likesWay better if they are cold, if they just cry and act pathetic then they simply are just pathetic.
0 likesBig facts
0 likesWatching two murderers cry?
0 likesthan*
0 likesBeing the murderer that cries ?
0 likesThis murders cry because they are been caught
0 likesPretending to vomit
0 likesI don't find it "pathetic" that he's crying. Fake or real, it makes me feel good that he is being tormented during this interrogation. I hope he is tormented and in the fetal position for the rest of his life!
0 likesThey 'fooled' around with the guy for an hour and a half. Then, about 33:15 into the video, the 'bad cop' comes in and gets down to business. This is the part I like to see. And then the guy going to jail and making some new "Friends" for the rest of his life. Nothing pathetic about it. Almost heart-warming to see this considering what terrible and vile things he did to that little girl. Almost makes me feel good. Almost.
Yeah knowing that he had a co conspirator that had to be as sick as him.
0 likesMy niece's mother (my brother's ex) bawled after suffocating my niece and leaving her body for nine hours while she thought of what to say to everyone. She wanted everyone to feel sorry for her after killing her five year old child. Unfortunately she was released from prison a few years ago on fucking good behavior and attends community college in my old home town.
0 likesItās like a slap in the face
0 likesLike ew
0 likesUgh
0 likesNope ššš
0 likes@L Lolas š¤£š
0 likes@RetrobutionAngel what mental institute is āa smooth ride compared to prison?ā
0 likeswatching a murderer laugh
0 likesThan*
0 likesYes, the Canadian justice system.
0 likesDangā¦ that blonde reporter was really struggling at the end there š„²
0 likesNo
0 likesWatching a rapist cry
0 likesSomething more pathetic would be him begging the boys in the big house not to kill him or beat him to a pulp. The one thing he deserves is the same done to him, it's a fucking disgrace that this still happens, even worse they feel like they can portray to be victims and seek pity, something else they don't deserve.
0 likesPisses me off
0 likesI think watching the POS woman that actually lured her to his car would be even WORSE> HOW THE HELL DOES she do that then say all the BS she does to detectives?
0 likessatisfying, satisfying to see them cry
0 likesYes. A murderer crying whilst wrapped in a blanket in a room that probably isnāt cold.
0 likesWhy would Terry lie if she admitted to being apart of it? Thatās a pretty hefty crime to lie about being an accomplice of.
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Self preservation.....o lessen her sentence after knowing she was caught
0 likesAnd this is exactly why my parents tell me to wait inside till they come to get me or take the bus. Heās a sick horrible man and sheās no better even if she didnāt ever want that to happen to the girl she still committed to it as he harmed that girl without her consent then took her life as she screams in pain and agony begging for the women to help her but in the end she was killed
5 likesThere's no such thing as relief for the parents that go through something like this.
3 likesI LOVE THIS CHANNEL. the creator seems to be so incredibly intelligent
4 likesThis is absolutely horrible, I can't imagine what the parents feel. Imagine having a sweet daughter and raising her.. She's a child, she's so small. She fully depends on you. You send her to school so she will get education.
5281 likesShe doesn't return, and you find out she's been raped and killed by a grown ass man, who hides under a blanket and cries while being investigated.
That's so horrible. It would fully break me.
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I want to have children one day if i'm lucky enough.. but this stuff is nightmare fuel.. wtf dude..
195 likesSadly the police focused on the victims mom as the main suspect, interrogating her repeatedly, all because she was a drug user.
79 likes@Boofpack hope it does happen
30 likes@Matt Watson Knowing what we know now yes it sucks that they focused on her but at the same time when a child goes missing they always look at the immediate family first. And a lot of the time it is a family member that committed the crime. Itās understandable that they would focus on the mother especially if she was a drug addict because drug addiction can make you do things you would never even think about doing when youāre sober. Just remember the police are just doing their jobs and have to go at the family first when a child disappears. Itās the same whenever a spouse is murdered, they always look at the other spouse first. They start with the family and inner circle and then work their way out from there. Itās tough but itās necessary
105 likesThat is horrible, but at the same time, where were the parents? It is fully the fault of the murderer that she died but it is the fault of the adults responsible of the kid to have not been there to pick up the kid. I don't think a kid this young should be left alone in the street
7 likes@Nutella Flavor she's really young so yea, the parents probably shouldn't have let her go alone. They also should've taught her not to talk to strangers.
19 likes@Nutella Flavor She lived 1 block away from her school.
47 likesShe may have only lived 1 block from the school, but that just makes it more concerning she wasn't reported missing til 6pm.
27 likes@Jess Eme She had a history of going to a nearby park and coming home late
5 likes@Matt Watson then it's still concerning that no adult accompanied her. A small child by herself at the park can easily be snatched
29 likesThat little girls dad she be allowed in a room with this guy for 10 mins and whatever happens, happens
15 likesAbsolutely.. my worst nightmare.
1 likeI hope to be a father one day and I would be absolutely fucking torn if this happened to my daughter.
3 likesI would mastermind being improsined into the same prison as the deviant, and show him the devil.
0 likesThey need to have torture for verdicts for people like this for the family to get revenge.
2 likesI have 2 kids myself. Please chill a little bit ;) its horrible..... I know
1 likeWhen youāre a parent, this is the type of stuff youāll think about all day long and every time you look at them.
8 likesI would legit go on a rampage
4 likesThat's exactly how I feel šÆ
1 like@Boofpack even in Canada?
1 likeIf somebody kills my kin then that means that somebody's getting killed.
2 likes@Matt Watson I live a five minute walk from my daughters school, and I still walk her there and back every single day
3 likesā@Steph King many peoples circumstances dont allow that
2 likes@Matt Watson yeah, when I was young I walked home like 8 blocks every day when I was in grade school. A lot of kids do, this poor little girl just happened to be the one, which is horrible. I'm glad they upped the sentence for the woman as well, regardless of her emotional "not wanting to see it" story. If she hadn't wanted to see it, then she shouldn't have lured the girl away, what the fuck did she think was going to happen?
8 likesAt least these two will stare at the walls of a cell for the rest of their lives.
@Boofpack I donāt think that would happen in a Canadian prison, but for this guy, I can only hope and dream.
0 likes@Dawson Woolford honest to god trust me Iāve been to Canadian JAILS because of fines. trust me even those were corrupt as hell they rlly donāt give a fuck when it comes to dealing with criminals especially the most fucked up of the most fucked up
1 likeYeah thanks for that
0 likes@Boofpack Man I hope so.
0 likes@Boofpack american justice system at its finest
1 like@Boofpack sounds like you've seen some movies. You think they have a chance or logistics to shit in individual prisoner's food in a busy prison?? Guards don't even have time to care about individual prisoners; good or bad.
1 likeTruly, I would be done. Done.
0 likesA bullet is cheap .68 and thatās all it would cost. Verses years of being locked up.
0 likesDude itās always āmenā like this that commit horrible crimes like this. Itās NEVER a stand up dude. A guy with want to hang with.
0 likesYou can see his guilt surfacing throughout the entire interview, causing him to go into shock. This is essentially the realization that he is going to die in jail, and not due to old age lets be clear.
0 likesThe girlfriend killed the girl
0 likesA perfect example of how just about anyone, given an extreme enough situation has within them the capacity to commit murder. I'm sure her parents were/are ravenous with desire to end that man's life personally.
1 like@Boofpack still that s not enough
0 likesShit like this is exactly why I don't understand why it's normalized to leave our kids with strangers every day. And partly why I don't want to bring kids into this shitty world.
1 like@Matt Watson how does a kid that age have that much freedom
0 likes@Frank Debellis same! I donāt trust the school bus either. If Iām late itās only by 5 minutes and I call the office to have them brought to the office when the bell rings. They donāt see outside until me or my husband makes it there.
0 likes@Morpheus Grace you literally answered your own question. Itās an interrogation method. Itās not real feelings. Interrogators have to be great actors. Iām currently in school for forensic psychology and profiling myself. Idk how you could possibly have any anger towards an investigator trying to get answers out of this guy. If you even watched the full video, you know he pretended to go get him food and didnāt. And they mentioned the interrogators distaste for the guy. Bc it was all an act. šduh
1 like@Nutella Flavor What? She was literally just walking home from school.
0 likes@tibo No it's not concerning. The only reason people are concerned about that is because of what we now know happened to her. Obviously it shouldn't have happened but to insinuate that the parents were somehow at fault at all for not accompanying their daughter on her daily walks to and from school from one block away is frankly ridiculous.
0 likes@saguirre760 What sort of question is that? Contrary to popular belief, Canada is really not drastically different from the US.
0 likesWhat is different is that crimes are punished less severely in Canada meaning people like this are going to be on the streets sooner on average than if the crime happened in America.
@Dawson Woolford If you don't think it could happen in a Canadian prison then you're deluded.
0 likes@Shivur Did you miss the part where he explicitly said those were his experiences in Canadian jails? You obviously and deliberately ignored that part because anyone capable of reading and comprehending English sentences would not misunderstand their comment.
0 likes@tibo Different neighborhoods and areas have different levels of security. Yes, it would have been better if she always had an adult accompanying here, but that's not always possible (especially when both parents work/don't have extra money for a babysitter), and sometimes it can seem unnecessary when growing up in a relatively safe neighborhood.
0 likes@Jason Boisseau well said Jason, it's very true. it's protocol and their training.
0 likes@Bahara Martinson apparently it was the woman that killed the child
0 likesTibo; as a father I donāt think I could go on they would have to put me on heavy drugs to make me stupid it would break me too and I have twin girls who I adore like any normal parent.
1 likeThey fed him and kept him warm wtf I just started watching Iām livid that baby died such a horrific death alive for the whole thing idk how they can keep a straight face to investigate
0 likes@The Real Karen they fed him and gave him a blanket to try to get a confession out of him. unfortunately you need to give some psychopaths a sense of security and understanding in order for them to open up. otherwise sometimes it's not enough evidence to keep them in jail or to give them a much harsher sentence. As for law enforcement it's same thing different day but it doesn't make the job any less important or cruel to their own psyche.
0 likes@Peter E No, he's not. In Canada there is a statutory maximum of 25 years. Sick but true.
0 likes@AltaMirage I said not due to old age. Sexual assault and murder of an 8 yr old girl? He won't last long when other inmates find out.
0 likes@AltaMirage What? 25 years is the max? I didn't know that, I thought the justice system was basically the same but the government usually handed out lighter sentences for the same types of crimes.
0 likesAlso, the reason the poor girl was alone, was because she went back to get her mom's earrings.
1 likeThat would kill me
@Visassess Nope. It's statutory. Ridiculous. Canada is WAY too lenient in sentencing violent murderers.
0 likes@Nutella Flavor I had good parents and I walked home from school since 2nd grade.
0 likes@Frank Debellis some people don't have that luxury, both parents working or single parent households.
0 likesJesus Christ loves you
0 likes@Morpheus Grace and that's why ur not a detective
0 likesThat final monologue by the detective was just amazing
4 likesIt's interesting that even though the Investigator says over and over that they know it leads to him and have proof and Michael continues to say he didn't do it over and over.
2 likesDo you think he is in denial that he did it or does he think if he says he's innocent enough that they'll be like aight cool he's good. I'd he really interested to know whats going on in his head.
When the second detective came in and said what we were all thinking... that was a wonderful moment
4 likesFeeling sorry for himself in his little blanket, crying and sobbing , people who commit violent crimes on children are the lowest cowards in society
8 likesSo pathetic the interogator does so without cuffs on , he knows he is too much of a coward to lash out at him
I hate that Michael, it blows me away how he can act so cowardly and act like a victim when he just sexually assaulted and killed a little girl. Absolutely revolting.
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Just remember he wasn't alone in this horrid act
29 likespeople who commit sexual crimes are usually the best at playing the victims and the thing is they actually believe they're the victim
63 likes@Chase Jones wrong, Terri Lynn was the one that killed Tori with the claw hammer. It's quite possible that she is more guilty than scumbag here and as far as I know, she's living it up in a minimum security facility with the possibility of release within the next 10 years ...
10 likesIt's unbelievable the amount of self pity that monster displayed...
32 likesWho are you to judge?
0 likes@imonoke what the f? And who are you?
32 likes@G.G. ;-) Michael, probably
19 likesMe 2ā¼ļøI donāt know a word stronger than hate. My Baby Sister was murdered @ 39 years old n wasnāt SA. RIP Little Angel-only 8 years oldš
5 likesAnd that woman was with him!
1 likeThat woman is just as guilty.
2 likesspoilers man cmon
0 likesalr nvm i got to the point
0 likesHe isnāt acting though, he is a coward.
3 likesThey should bring back public stonings for these types of filth.
5 likesI always love the "this doesn't seem to be a tactic, the detective is just pissed off" parts of these videos
3 likesIām absolutely blown away by the poise and understanding demeanour displayed by the profiler, what a professional, Iād have been absolutely verbally abusing that man, maybe worse
0 likesThis guy deserves ever bit of credit there is for a police interview/interrogation- amazing skills
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He is relentless
0 likesIf I was doing his job I would paint a ālight at the end of the tunnelā scenario. Give him something to run towards. Sympathy and these things happen because of earlier influences...blah, blah, blah, and once truth comes out and you admit to what happened then we have a starting point to healing. We can work on understanding and fixing you so we can get you well and out of the system...if they donāt understand theyāll go harder on you and you may never get out, but I know if we get the facts then we know how to proceed and get you well and out of here.
4 likesGive him something to run towards, downplay the hardship of lengthy time in jail and that he can have hope for his future.
Damn he really asked him like 20 times if he wanted food till he finally said yes and then didn't get him any š¤£š¤£š¤£
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morty classic
817 likesHahaha I was this comment and then waited patiently. Worth it
138 likes@FreeOpenTruth I've seen another interview where the cops thought the guy committed an armed robbery. He kept saying "I'll talk if I get a coke and a butterfinger" they gave him two cokes but eventually realized he wasnt going to talkšš
1155 likes@Payton jay - Maybe they should have forked out the extra 3 bucks for a butterfingers, no? LoL!
500 likesFr bro your comment made me laugh my ass offš¤£ shit has me dead ash
50 likes@Payton jay lmaoooo I seen that one. That dude loved his coke š¤£š¤£š¤£
227 likesWhat a fucking legend
57 likes@Payton jay and he never got that butterfinger! Ha ha! That interview was crazy! Lol
168 likes@Payton jay The legend of Jeff!
239 likes@FreeOpenTruth And this was only the time in the room...
2 likes@alex YESš Jeff's the best
40 likesPayton jay
83 likesDude that interview was the BEST! ššš āWhat, are you supposed to be the good cop?ā
Bob Thompson
6 likesššš
The guy has a donut and a tea
23 likesI honestly laughed at that part lol. He stayed hungry. As he always should.
25 likesWorth noting that none of these techniques worked. It ended up being terrible policing and they were lucky they didn't need the interview evidence.
47 likesThe end of the interview was basically bullying - it's the police's job to establish the facts not to assume guilt and verbally abuse people who haven't been convicted yet. Even prison guards aren't allowed to speak to people like that when they HAVE been convicted!
Best part of the 57 mins.
1 likeH
0 likesBenjamin Sumner you must have missed the first 10 - 15 minutes where his partner in crime confessed. Once they found Tori, it was over.
57 likesCake or death?
24 likesCake, please.
Well, we're out of cake! So what do you want?
So my choice is "Or death?"
Yes.
Well, I'll have the chicken, then.
Myself andI ok, we get one anotherās point. Iāve watched numerous JCS documentaries. He said in Canada, where this particular case occurred, the police can still talk to them, while waiting for their counsel to arrive. They do not have to answer, but they can speak to them, under the guise that the suspect requested an attorney. That is not the case here in the US. Apparently, Canada does it a bit different. If Iām incorrect, itās because thatās what JCS said on one of his videos.
26 likesThe best part of waking up, is NOTHING in your cup
17 likesFreeOpenTruth He didnt have power if he didnt take it lmao. If you walk into an interrogation crying and wearing a trash bag as a blanket the police know you're weak
9 likes@Lily Bee I'll bet it's not a Tim Horton's Doughnut though.
3 likes@Myself andIPersonally I think the first officer did a great job, it just didn't work in this situation. Second guy was finding his roll too cathartic for my liking but it did also serve a purpose contrey to Jim's take. The psychologic battery is intended to throw the suspect off kilter, to worsen the feeling of dispondancy increasing the likelyhood of a confession down the line. They did not do anything illegal, given his age. They had given him food. 3.5 hours is relatively short for an interrogation. He had already spoken to a lawyer, a lawyer does not need to be in the interrogation room in Canada they just need to be given the opportunity to speak to one and did so. Finally the psychologist lied to the suspect when he told him could leave at anytime - so weren't breaking any rules when making him stay. Ultimately I think, if they wanted a confession they could of eventually got one. However I believe they gave up as the case was pretty much wrapped up and it wasn't worth and more time and effort extracting one.
14 likes@FreeOpenTruth 3 bucks!? š§ š¤Æ I remember when they were a nickel! š® Damn, I'm old.
4 likes@Myself andI Ā @Myself andIĀ I didn't realise you could demand a lawyer be present, I just knew you had the right to council, thanks for informing me. Whist I appreciate your compassion, I'm from the UK where our criminal justice system is far more compassionate towards the suspects. To be 100% honest doesn't really work to the benifit of society particularly in the case of violent offenders. Here the Reid method is not permitted, we have far less admitions of guilt for that reason. Whilst I appreciate your empathy, I think the things to remember are that the Reid method is only used after the investigatiors have significant evidence to paint someone as guilty therefore it is designed to increase psychological pressure and then offer a release value by way of an admitions of guilt. It's also effective at assessing guilt/innocence via pushing people make rash emotional responses, which can be more easily assessed. Lastly when the Reid method is done properly, particularly with no offers of judicial leniency, giving toilet breaks and most importantly only using it on mature mentally stable adults the likely hood of false confessions are incredibly low.
6 likes@Myself andIty for the reply. I'm a little busy to reply to all of your points, but I'll try the best I can to answer as many of them as possible. First I find it strange that you find enhanced interigation, morally reprehensible as it is essentially cohesion whilst ignoring the fact that detainment is essentially kidnapping - by the same logic should we not detain people because kidnapping is illegal.
6 likesThe notion that the interigation will give suspect ptsd is pretty strange, and seems like your blamimg the stress of the situation onto a single stage in the process whilst from my perspective if I were to be accused of a crime, detained and trialed, I'm pretty that alone would give me ptsd. Is an enhanced really that much more stress.
Last point I have time to make is whilst, the detectives may be certain that does not necessarily prove to a jury the suspect is guilty. An admition of guilt, or the suspect giving inconsistent information maybe enough to get a guilty verdict. Further certain things the suspect says may deprive the defence form myself making arguments to obfuscate the truth. If the suspect were to be deemed guilty in a court of law, and they were mitigating circumstances to the crime, the suspect coming clean during interigation can lead to a smoother trail where the mitegating circumstances and suspects co-operation can be used to get a fair outcome given the circumstances.
IMHO the judicial system in Canada is superior to that of the UK, your system keeps people who have committed violent crimes in prison much more effectively than our system and that in turn protects society. Anecdotally, my father was assaulted with a steel rod five years ago - they had caught the suspects and had 3 witnesses identify them excluding my father, however they were unable to take them to court as there was deemed to be insufficient evidence, e.g. CCTV footage or a confession... More effective integration could have got that extra information to get those men arrested, instead tax payers payed money so they could have a lawer sit beside them whilst they repeated 'no comment' to protect there own skin - those to Men, with pretty damming evidence against them, got to walk free and subsequently commited more violent crimes...before they were convicted. I understand that protecting suspects wellbeing to a reasonable extent is important but surely you must agree that it's not nearly as important as protecting the health an wellbeing of the general public?
I know itās hilarious
3 likes@Myself andI In Canada you don't have the right to have a lawyer present during a police interview. You must be provided with a lawyer and they can tell you what to do, but they can't go into the room with you.
5 likes@Myself andI I agree...it is fishy.
0 likesThey must allow you to speak to a lawyer whenever you ask for one, so if you want to check with your lawyer before answering a question, they must allow you to do so.
@Payton jay that's the case of Jeff or legend of Jeff etc I think. He was actually innocent or didn't get charged anyway lol!
2 likesThis guy is ate up...pun intended. šššš¤£
0 likes@Benjamin Sumner ? ?
0 likesPayton jay jeff!!!!
0 likes@Payton jay He didn't get the 'butterfinger'
2 likes@Free_Gold I know rightš¤ he got two cokes thoš
1 like@Benjamin Sumner You're crazy to say this didn't work! I'm 20 minutes in and I am ready to confess to this crime just to make him stop rambling!!!
6 likes@Payton jay Jeeeefffff
1 like@Benjamin Sumner Um, I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but prison guards sure as hell ARE allowed to talk to the inmates, however the fuck they want. Source: 3 years in prison
24 likes@Payton jay The legend, Jeff
2 likesYes! Just imagine him sitting and waiting for the door to open and the food to come)))))) but when the door finally opens.....
5 likes@Payton jay that guy walked too lol. Fkn legend. Looks like Captain America next to this guy...
0 likes@Payton jay that guy is a legend- he was awesome
0 likesCanuck classic. š¤¦š»āāļøš
0 likes@FreeOpenTruth well he isnt there bc hes smart lol
0 likesFseeeeeee
0 likes@Payton jay the legend of Jeff š
2 likesU killed me with that dude šššš
0 likesBro he didnāt even eat his dohnut
3 likesThat's a classic torture.
0 likesspongemonkeysooz I have no idea where they cost 3 bucks.. I paid 89 cents USD for one day before yesterday. The vending machine at at my work sells them for a dollar.
2 likesMyself andI my only problem with your reasoning, and in most cases you are absolutely correct. A police officer is not a judge, their job is to get facts. If they have you dead to rights and have seen the evidence to lead to their conclusion, the Jury does not matter yet. Not in their duty. Their job is the burden of proof. What is better proof than a confession? You can have mountains of physical evidence and the only thing that makes it open and shut, is a confession.
1 likeIf a suspect is read their rights and agrees they understand them who cares if they get badgered afterward. They know itās their right to shut the fuck up. That doesnāt make every investigatorās approach intelligent, or the correct way.
Payton jay wham! Bam! Thank you for the coke!
1 likeAaron James Iāll take death....I mean cake
0 likesAh but you said death
Well I meant cake
Then shook his hand as he left. Good times. š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
2 likesKhalid he doesnāt even deserve that š
0 likesCouldn't even eat tea and a doughnut. "I want food" no you want a break, and you're not getting it.
2 likes@Benjamin Sumner just because something doesnt work doesnt mean its terrible
6 likesAlso they had DNA evidence and video evidence of him and Teri with Tori in the car. They weren't guessing at his guilt dude. Just guessing how much of it was him and how much her. Also that cop wasnt bullying, he was venting. And he was perfectly within his right.
@Payton jay what video is that ?! Iād love to watch that haha, where do I find it ??
1 likeFreeOpenTruth so your supporting a monster
0 likes@Payton jay I saw that one, he never got his butterfinger..ROFLMAO
1 like@Bob Czz no, sadly he didntš„ŗšš¤£šš¤£š
1 likeI feel like they were intentionally stressing him out as much as possible. It breaks down a person's resolve and makes them desperate to end the interview asap. It's so bad you get confessions ( not a fan because it also leads to false confessions).
0 likesthats so mean
0 likeshaha right
0 likes@Payton jay are the talking about Jeff? Lol
1 like@Benjamin Sumner Lol well that's not true do you know anybody who works in a jail or is locked up in a jail?
0 likes@Myself andI thatās not how it works you are confused
0 likess a v a g e
0 likesBut he never touched the doughnut š© on the table so I suppose he wouldn't be able to eat anything because he was feeling sick most of the time.
1 likeProbably the suspect thought it's better to eat but his body was telling "There's too much shit to deal with. Let's not add anything else".
I snorted so hard when I read your comment, I hurt my nose LOL.
0 likesThat's fucked up
0 likesHe wouldāve got a Butterfinger if he gave the cop a little something
0 likesme and dating
0 likes@SpaceRanger No way, every vid I see from the UK shows the suspect request a lawyer, not get one, then be questioned for hours on end
0 likes@Alice Ayres Yep this isn't the UK though so UK practice doesn't apply here. Our system in the UK is also weighted too far in the favour of the suspect and because of that dangerous criminals frequently walk just to re-offend time and time again.
3 likes@SpaceRanger Sorry misread that...I don't believe that the reason they reoffend is because the UK is too lenient, it's just because the current systems don't rehabilitate. Check out some countries that completely revamped their system, have far kinder sentences, yet ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH low recidivism rates. Our rates are terrible in America too š
1 likeBut rather than change anything and actually prevent future crime (imagine the innocent people we could save), we fear change....
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa omg haaaa...X
0 likes"Do you want food?"
0 likes"Yes."
"But the food doesnt want you."
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@Jon Meray ah jeez
0 likesThat back-and-forth and the subsequent narration is like something out of rick and morty haha
1 likeDang that is actually tortuous
0 likes@Payton jay because he never got his butterfinger š¤£š¤£
0 likes@Payton jay wham bam thanks for the coke put me back in the cell ššš
2 likesPro move. I want to see more of this Canadian Gentleman.
0 likesThis is the worst interrogation was he going to bomb to death cruel and and unusual punishment... You can tell he's Canadian
0 likes@Payton jay That's the legendary Jeff
1 likeLol
0 likes@Since 2006 lol
0 likesHilarious
0 likes@Benjamin Sumner The didn't assume guilt, they had video evidence, eyewitness testimony, the body (located where the accomplice/eyewitness said it was), injuries on the body consistent with eyewitness testimony, DNA evidence...it was pretty clear he was guilty, and they were trying to pressure him into confessing to top it off.
2 likesHe got him a donut....gangsta...
1 like@FreeOpenTruth Indeed, if he asked for food in the beginning they would bring it to him. Would be probably last good meal he would have had.
1 likeRafferty said he was cold and hungry so they got him a coffee and (what looks like) a bagel. But I didn't see Rafferty touch it or even look at it for the whole time (just stares at his knees). The coffee would have been cold and the bagel stale by the end of it. You also see the Behavioral Sciences dude happily sipping on his throughout the interview. Contrasting their states of consciousness. You can also see how relaxed the HS dude and the investigator compared to MR.
0 likesHahahahahaha savage ššš
0 likes@Erica Mercado make no sense at all. .
0 likes@Payton jay that would be Jeff the legend.
0 likes@Dylan Sex worker or not, consenting adults are obviously not his thing...
1 like@Ash Richards I'ma have to disagree with you on that one. That's unconstitutional, imagine you were arrested for a crime you didn't do and the police attempt to beat it out of you not only are you gonna get your ass whooped but you'll probably end up admiting to a crime you never committed and go to prison for it lol.
0 likes@Dylan A Hooker? I think Hookers are too old for him. :D
2 likes@Payton jay Is that the Jeff one?? I remember that I think. They shoulda gotten the man his butterfinger š
0 likesHe has a donut! Fake news!
1 likeI bet these detectives are good joke tellers.
0 likesThat's murdering the man's dignity
0 likesCanadian torture
1 likeš¤£
@CandiGale73 Yes. I just watched the one mother who killed her two daughters because of her drug smiggling husband. And they were in Canada. And she would not talk. But the detective kept on. And they said it was legal in Canada for them to do that
2 likes@Aaron James LMAO, Eddie izzard baby I freaking love that guy
0 likes@Payton jay jeff was a legend, he doesn't talk to police lol. ( Unless they give him his methadone)
1 likeššššš How sad!
0 likesHaha
0 likesStraight. Gangster.
1 like@Teresa Lynn thank you! Every American thinks their laws are right. I speak as an American myself. People need to broaden their horizons, and stop thinking only one way.
0 likes@Payton jay maiii naaaameeeee jeeeeffffffff
0 likesLmfaooooo!!!!
0 likes@Payton jay Jeff!
1 like@Dylan Jeff was a fucking legend šššæš¤...my God Jeff deserved that butterfinger
1 like@Teresa Lynn yep, they can keep you in that interrogation room for up to eight hours, talking the whole time, even if you have asked for a lawyer.
1 likeFor this time, Jeff would have had couple of six packs of coke, easily.
1 likeThat detective was smart in his approach but he needs to stfu lowkey. Heās literally babbling & being so repetitive
0 likesPolice strategy!
0 likes@Payton jay yeah that guy was actually not guilty too
0 likesJeff had/has? a youtube channel (idk if its still up.. he would do weird music and talk lol) and he said he ended up doing a few years in the end because he took a deal coz of his past criminal history they were trying to put him away for longer.. His channel used to be linked in the "Jeff" video..
0 likesPeak passive aggressive lol
0 likesDamn
0 likesGood. He doesn't deserve food. Or Coffee.
0 likesHow TF did I get 20k likes on this š¤£
0 likes@FreeOpenTruth okoooioooopooooiooo
0 likes@Benjamin Sumner Iād like to see how noble you would want this cop to be if it was your daughter.
1 likeDamn I wanted to hear him confess
0 likes@Jon Meray hi Iāll uuuh un oil ooimuuuu
0 likesLmfao
0 likessavage
0 likesThis is super interesting. They have everything worked out so I sure that horribly squeeky chair is pay of it! It is so annoying I would have started screeming, ALL RIGHT I DID IT!!!!! š¬
0 likes@LIFO the party the smart ones are the ones who nobody knows they are psychopaths. They're the dangerous ones lol
0 likes@FreeOpenTruth He wasn't hungry due to stress.
0 likesHaha he thought his appetite was going to save him,making him look innocent š āāļøš
0 likes@alex And he got off! What a massive Legggggg
0 likesWell said
0 likesDylan Doesn't he have a legal right to food whilst in custody?
0 likesššš this mans says ima get you food, shakes his hand and returns with his accomplice. Dude had it rightā¦it was all a psychological ploy
0 likesNo food for you
@Bob Thompson wam bam thank you for the coke take me back to my fuckin cell
1 likeDetective: Want food?
0 likesPos killer: No.
Detective: Want food?
Pos killer: No.
Detective: Want food?
Pos killer: No.
Detective: Want food?
Pos killer: No.
Detective: Want food?
Pos killer: Yes.
Detective: Well too bad.
Pos killer: weeps like the pathetic loser he is
Damn it feels good to be a gangster
0 likesThe classic "hunger up" technique
0 likesHe gave him a dohnit, eh?
0 likesas he shouldš
0 likesHe has a donut. Count himself fortunate
1 likehow the hell is this the most liked comment. Why can't it be me???
0 likes@FreeOpenTruth how dare you!!!
0 likes@kevin aslin that shit* was crazy
0 likes@babyblue wow is that really you?
0 likes@KĆ®D ƧĆM - How dare I what??? Hmmm???
0 likes@You Wish glad ur out bud, sry for whatev happened
0 likesSavage
0 likesI absolutely loved when he did that. Showed him that he really couldn't care less about him.
0 likesPayton jay he still never got the butterfinger tho !!š
0 likesGod bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Donāt swear or take Godās name in vain!)
0 likes@olivia grace what are you even going on about. Yeah god cool but chill out we're not in church
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0 likes@Payton jay The legend of Jeff. Also by JCS.
1 like@Dylan they wouldnt they are really patient and mentally strong he isnāt . He would speak wit or without steak .
0 likesTimestamp?
0 likesHahahahaa
0 likesI laughed out loud at that so perfect
0 likes@olivia grace get lost.
0 likes@FreeOpenTruth he really has no power, they know he was the one that did it, all they really need is a motive which as the detective said, he already probably knows.
0 likes@Payton jay thatās Jeff he actually didnāt do it and was a heroin addict
0 likesDoesn't he have a donut and coffee beside him tho??
0 likes@Payton jay Yes I seen that interrogation with the alleged armed robber THEY ended up having to let him go though then He would've gotten the butter fingers
0 likes@FreeOpenTruth I pay my tax dollars and I should have a say if that man gets his butter fingers or not.
0 likes@Payton jay JEFF
0 likesThe body language in this entire interrogation is stunning. The way the detective stays so calm while the perp Continuously tries to disappear into the wall. Fetal position... Wow. I hope he feels that way, at minimum, the remainder of his pathetic existence.
0 likesThe Staff Sergeant was amazingly professional and handled this Extremely well.
0 likesI know it's not a good tactic but I would like to see more of detectives doing this.
1 likeNo one who commits a despicable crime like this is likable. BUT this guy is just so hate-able even if I didn't know what he did, he's just so cringy, so whiny and pathetic. What a waste. šš¤¬
4 likesRest in peace, sweet Tori, so sorry you got taken away before your time. ā„
Give that detective an Oscar for containing his disgust at this human refuse.
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My thoughts exactly.
22 likesWhatās a human refuse
9 likes@the_deepend Refuse means garbage.
40 likesI don't think he's acting, when you're in his line of work you really have to create a impenetrable mental wall between your personal life and work. Also, as he stated, this is something he's had a lot of experience in dealing with and while I'm not gonna say you ever stop finding disgust in morbid shit you do develop a sort of callus and become numb to it. If you've been on the internet a very long time or have looked into a lot of crime videos, you've experienced that callus first hand. There's been some pretty gruesome stuff I've seen on the net, a lot of things I see people outraged by I kinda shrug off myself. The worlds a fucked up place and probably most don't realize just how much so.
21 likesHe said he dealt with far worse than this guy and I believe him. I imagine after some time you get a bit numb to this type of horror. Like a surgeon seeing the insides of someone over and over.
2 likesI'm asking myself the same thing how could he be so calm after seeing and reading what happend to that little child. I work in the medical field and sometimes inmates comes to our station with police and all but I just do my work and help the people cause who am I to judge. Dosent matter much to me what he did. Always better for me not knowing what they did
1 likeMy first thought, "I could never appear friendly and relaxed around someone like him."
0 likes@Sin it'll mainly be focusing on the family of the kid, as if he just shouts at him he'll get nothing from him, and maybe he'll somehow walk free if they don't convince him to confess. If he does what be did though and gets that confession he knows for a fact he made sure he's going to jail, which is well worth it
1 likeEvil starts with lies!
1 likeAll stemming from the garden of Eden.
Satan tempted Adam and Eve remember?
@TheGoldenEagle 1996 u wot m8
0 likesIt started with lies.
1 likeSatan lied to Adam and Eve
@TheGoldenEagle 1996 I dunno, eating fruit seems pretty tame to me by comparison.
1 likeItās not the action; Itās the motive dude.
0 likesThe devil deceived Adam and Eve by tempting them.
There is a spiritual element to lying.
0 likes@Miss Misfits I wouldn't know. Fortunately for me, I grew up in a loving and functional home. Isn't that statistic on cops? Nobody in my family was a cop, so idk...
0 likes@pierrearr But...but...then you would be in a that room with yourself
0 likes@X8551516 Like they say you cant be a cop if your completely sane.
0 likesIt's just sickening what those two did to that poor little girl. The pain and fear that she must have gone though is unbelievable!!
0 likesThat last bit with the detective telling him exactly what he is and exactly what the rest of his life will be like was so incredibly satisfying.
3 likesI pray for her family, I cannot imagine sending my child to school and her never coming home. I hope they know the whole internet is ripping this pathetic monster to shreds in the comments, and heās getting a lot worse treatment in prison. People are only sorry when theyāre caught
0 likes"it was nice meeting you Mikey, enjoy the rest of your life. this is the kind of room you're gonna be spending it in."
6 likesThat was some of the hardest shit to say before walking out, that detective is a G
The part that hurts me the most. Is what the kid must've been feeling in her last moments. This world is so cruel. She just wanted to see a puppy. So innocent. Only evil take advantage of Innocence.
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Pure evil and people like this should feel the fear and pain they deserve...
108 likesGod please hold her close may she rest in peace šš½
This world is not cruel... Humans are cruel.
56 likes@Peter Cruelty is in no way exclusive to humans beings...Sorry.
141 likes@Peter nah this world is very cruel humans are just a small part of it :/
35 likes@Peter The world is cruel too. Some kids are born with a fatal illness' and live for days or months and only know a live of pain and suffering. Some parts of the world food is scarce and people starve. The world can be cruel too. But I agree with you, that in this instance, it was the people who were cruel to this innocent child.
32 likeswhere were parents
4 likesā@Christian Sutton Which animals kill with premeditation/planning with personal motives apart form instinct/hunger then if not just humans? That's what I'd justify as cruel.
14 likes@nick T Wolves, coyotes, and flying ants, too
20 likes@nick T No they don't wtf? Definition of murder is as follows "Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse, especially the unlawful killing of another human with malice aforethought."
14 likesWhich of those animals you selected plans out the "murder" weeks/months in advance?
@Gandalf The White you are mistaking the real animal world with your disney movies š¤£
35 likes@Mahmut Sala Your comment says more about you than me but alrighty then.
4 likes@Gandalf The White lions kill cheetah pups for no apparent reason... They kill and leave. Sparrows kill the young of other species, even their own.
17 likesThere's plenty of cruelty to go around on this planet.
@Gandalf The White Your original post was all about how animals only kill for instinct, but I listed examples of cruel acts that some animals commit for funsies. Cats play with their food and kill not for hunger, but for sport. Killer whales love to play with their food and torture their food for fun. Dolphins do the same. And, again, otters are the animal equivalent of Jeffery Dahmer when it comes to necrophilic rapey acts of unkindness. Animals do and will kill for the fun of it, and humans aint so different.
24 likes@missustealie Again you're mixing up base animal instinct with human concepts that link with a human sense of morality. An animal can't comprehend and fully realise the suffering it inflicts like a human can, something can't be accountable for it's actions if it doesn't have a full grasp on the ramifications and nowhere near to the level of empathy humans are capable of.
5 likes@Gandalf The White it doesn't matter, they still kill for the sport of it and you can't deny that. that statement alone disproves everything you're trying to say.
19 likes@Gandalf The White lions
0 likes@Gandalf The White you didnāt mention murder , you said kill š¤¦āāļø
0 likes@Billy Mabum ok
0 likes@Christian Sutton It is wholly exclusive to human beings and evil entities.
0 likes@nick T That's called hunting. They do it to feed themselves.
0 likesWhat is your malfunction??
@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie Killer Whales kill sharks and toy with them without eating them. Dolphins do the same. What part of this is hunting again?
10 likesI know after being assaulted like that at 8 then brutally murdered like she was already probably hiding and scared only fir a woman who was nice to her and was probably thinking would help her only took her life .
1 like@Peter what a naive statement
0 likesWanna see my puppy?
0 likesChristine what truly makes my heart heavy is that the little girl looked to the woman to help her before she died and that haunts me to this day.
4 likes@missustealie Bonobo chimps make love not war.
2 likesThe pain and suffering of the innocent breaks my heart
3 likes@Yrn Quin but it does matter. Lol wat. That realization is a huge difference between humans and animals. We 100% know what we do while an animal does not. You won't see an animal commit the crimes humans are capable of, much less for the same reasons.
2 likesCalm down everybody, this thread is why pencils have erasers!
2 likes@missustealie aforethought = premeditation lol
0 likesThe innocent were made for this reason so we could farm off their innocent brains, it's how rich people stay rich.
0 likes@Gandalf The White orcas kill for fun
0 likes@Steve miecznikowski lol.
0 likesššš
This comment broke me :( just wanted to see a puppyā¦ goddamn it.
1 like@Gandalf The White yeah i feel you i be on the same shit when i'm highšš
0 likes@Yrn Quin ayyyyy lmao :)
0 likesWhy the amber alert wasn't raised always upsets me about this. It's not an absolute protection but it could've saved her life
0 likesShush your name is cannibal
1 like@aĶØnĶ§gĶeĶ¤l it still doesn't matter...like the people above said, there's multiple animals who play with their food and kill it and don't even eat it. That's not killing based on instinct or hunger, thats straight up murder. For one, if they were hungry they would eat it and not play around with it and for two, it's not regular for cats or killer whales etc. to play with their food meaning the specific cats or killer whales etc. that do these things are an outlier/threat in their society, just like guess what....murderers.
1 likeI hope you take some solace in the idea that many psychologists believe that people experiencing profound violence and pain disassociate. Itās quite likely many victims do not have to go through all that pain.
0 likes@Sam Isnāt real I highly doubt that theory could be proven in any scientific way. Its just impossible to ask the dead...but nice try
1 like@Peter Schroeder get lost Peter Iām trying to be nice
1 likeI wasn't watching her, it was your turn to watch her. Damn kids, such an inconvenience to my social life!
3 likes@Christian Sutton yes it is...
0 likesPlenty of people take advantage of innocence. plenty of kids ruin innocence. Only evil kills innocence.
0 likes@Peter says the guy who never got maimed by a hippopotamus.
0 likesWhy is your last name āCannibalā?
1 like@Breezy Writer Hello fellow
0 likes@Gandalf The White k-whales can and do m- seals for fun... Their behavior literally goes beyond 'base instinct', because it's a learned social behavior (and no, it didn't come from us). You assuming all animals just function on a basic level and have absolutely no understanding beyond just being an action-reaction being says waaay more about you and how you view animals that are not humans than anyone else in this comment section...
0 likesThe irony is, you end up having a poorer view on what animals are capable of in terms of social complexity and intelligence by misguidedly trying to make them into Disney characters lmfao. Seriously... Read up on these animals you suppose to know so much about, because your ignorance of them will only harm them and yourself in the long run.
@Fire ship nope, read more about nature and the animals that inhabit it (besides humans) or stop making such false declarative statements. Highly social animals are capable of unimaginable cruelty, k-whales, lions, monkeys and dolphins are one of many examples. Humans are, of course included, because we are also socially complex but we are not unique in that regard
0 likesHe did her a favor honestly. Now she doesnāt have to suffer in this world for the next 80 years
0 likes@asdf asdfOK very cool.
0 likes@SuperCyberus 2 "get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head"
0 likesAge and low iq can only exuse so much.
0 likes@Christine Cannibal That was my first thought, tooā¦ And it just made me tear up and go hug my daughter. You have to be a sociopath to drive 100 miles while a child is crying and scared, and not once think it was a bad idea? No child should die.. thank you for your insight..
0 likes@Gandalf The White The entire world is natural selection. Good and bad, strong and weak, moral and unjust, rich and poor, etc.
0 likes@Gandalf The White now wait just a minute. A fellow stoner. Please, forgive me if my previous comment was aggressive in anyway. I don't remember what I said.
0 likesexactly. this is so dark. and the puppy part brought me to tears.
1 likeI don't understand why the parents didn't teach her not to talk to strangers
0 likesWhen people grow up they become pos plus life is very hard and painful I wish I wasn't born the amount of pain I'm in is horrific
0 likes@missustealie true
0 likes@Gandalf The White psychopaths don't have empathy either they don't grasp the pain they caused because they don't feel the same way we do so are they innocent?
0 likes@Aloysius Devander Abercrombie some don't eat what they torture cats are a good example and killer whales kill for fun
0 likes@KK and sims 4 women can be evil too they're not all sweet little angels
0 likes@The Burden of Light flying ants ?
0 likes@Mahmut Sala I think he is trying to point out that other animals dont have social mores and morals, and thus legal codes against murder. - That cruelty and suffering is normal in the animal kingdom doesn't change this fact.
0 likesIt's too bad no one warned this little girl not to EVER walk away with ANYbody, even if by pll she knew, with their offer of shoeu g them a puppy, a kitten, or askjng her to hrlp find a lost puppy or kitten, etc. That these are almost always very bad ppl, who want to kipnap her, & hurt her badly, and never let her go home ever again or ever back to school again!! That she will probably never ever meet such ppl but if she ever does, just remember to not ever walk off with them somewhere -- just run as fast as possible in the opposite direction & screaming to get attention!! And all little boys need to learn this too, and both as early as possible, and hopefully explained delicately, without scaring them to death in the process. But they MUST learn this.
0 likesSome of the people in this thread looking a little sus š¤
0 likesGood to see a defendant who knows his rights. Good to see a prosecution get the conviction anyways
2 likesI hope the inmates have took justice into their own hands with this guy.
4 likeswatched this video like 3 times before and for some reason it was only this time around i caught that Tori was the same age as I was on April 8th 2009. I most certainly hope Rafferty is having the worst time of his life right now.
6 likesThis guy deserves every bit of punishment he got, special place in hell for these sick individuals that put their hands on children.
13 likesThe hatred and disgust I have for this man is almost unbearable.
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@A Non I lfeel like I might have PTSD after watching this
14 likesImagine how a cop must feel. Having to deal with people like this, knowing that they are guilt and trying to hold yourself as hard as you can to not just grab a gun and pop the fucking garbage.
36 likes@Matheus Salabert that's one of the reasons why I can't be a police
10 likes@Nicholas Gerry Me neither my dude. That's why I respect the good cops so much.
11 likes@Matheus Salabert me too I respect real good cops. I swear if I were the cop I'd kick his face a lot xD
10 likesI hate the girl that lured her into the car too.
22 likesClank4Prez Ugh same!! And it turns out she killed her. Disgusting humans.
3 likesSame
0 likesSame
0 likesHow could this woman lead this child to this monster????
1 like@Matheus Salabert if i was a cop i definitely wouldnt kill him, id rather make him rot in jail for eternity instead of releasing him from decades of pain
3 likeshatred in your heart will get you nowhere man, that's just a fact.
3 likesI 100% agree. This makes me want to devote the rest of my life to hunting the vermin phsychopath that could do these things to children. Id die right now to be in the place of any child at the hands of these monsters. No amount of pain and tourture would make me change my mind. I promise.
3 likesOmg same. I just feel like Iām gonna explode. š¤š¤Æ
1 likeMe too
0 likesI couldn't watch more than 15 minutes. I felt too sick. I thought why should I force myself to watch this. I fast forwarded it to the last 10 minutes.
0 likesRight she was just little girl and he take her life ..poor girl last moments on this earth was horrible
1 likeYou're not the only one. I wouldn't be able to be in the same room as him. I could never have that criminal psychologist's job. It's weird how crimes against children upset me more than adults. Is not a life equal to a life? But for me a child is innocent, and should never have to experience the true evil of man like this. At this point in a child's life, they don't even know evil like this exists. Where as an adult knows evil exists in the world. Not that anyone deserves this, but a child has their whole life in front of them, and the death of a child is always worse for me.
1 likeThat was the most magical time of my life! Hale Bopp!!!
0 likesWhat a disgusting piece of sh*t that poor baby!!!! My heart. If I was in that investigation room Iād be in jail before he was. One of the first times Iāve seen someone give nothing. Not even a fake attempt at remorse or excuses. Hopefully the family can find peace in some way š
0 likesI just don't understand how he could do that to someone and take their life away from them but then tell the officer his biggest fear was "losing HIS life".
0 likesHow can people lack that much empathy.
the amount of self-pity this guy has is astonishing
8 likesI like the first detective but the second, one I may be in love with the second one. He said everything I was thinking.
2 likesYou know whats worse than a kiddy fiddling murderer?
5586 likesAn unapologetic, kiddy fiddling murderer that plays the victim and has an attitude.
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@June Carpenter Did I touch a nerve?
510 likes@June Carpenter ive got the word NONCE
160 likesAion333 Why are you so quick to label someone as human trash? He said 2 words.
14 likes@June Carpenter someone needs to check your internet history ASAP
183 likes@houseofleaves12 he said shut up to someone who was basically saying pedos are bad. How do you not see this
63 likesyes!!! its infuriating
3 likesIsn't it possible for someone to do something horrific and then be horrified at what they've done? Because I'm fairly certain it is possible.
1 like@888 888 no, he said shut up to someone who said that this nervous wreck we saw was just an act to gain sympathy.
0 likes@Mateo Hodge okay. Let's say he wasn't scared at what he had done, but about the fact that he got caught.
0 likesPoint still stands, it wasn't an act, he was a nervous wreck.
@Mateo Hodge No, I'm not asking you to feel sorry for him. I'm just saying he's not necessarily asking you to feel sorry for him.
2 likes@Mateo Hodge I watched to the end. I change my mind. You're right, he's definitely only horrified at the prospect of what will happen to him.
14 likes@June Carpenter š¹š
0 likesyet they both got the same sentence
0 likes@Mateo Hodge same! i was gonna eat some dinner but jesus christ iām currently breathing manually jusy cuz how fucked up this made me
1 likeAnd whatās even worse than that is someone who sympathizes with them
3 likes@Echelon I mean...thats nowhere to being worse than what he listed but I get your point..
0 likes@Jack Keth Well I feel like if someone sympathizes, theyāll commit the same crime as well.
0 likesAnd needs his woobie
1 like@Fif0l It doesn't matter. Even if it's genuine he deserves to feel that way and even worse imo. Human garbage deserves no sympathy.
2 likes@Nat Again, I don't feel sorry for him. I was only speaking against the notion that he's pretending in order to gain sympathy.
1 like@RikXtreme4
0 likesR/whoosh
ikr. This was infuriating to watch. Mega impressed with the first detective who kept his cool.
1 likeThe fucking nerve š¤
0 likes@Mateo Hodge I think he was just dope sick. Only thing on his mind is getting his drug.
0 likes@June Carpenter Lmao nice troll gr8 b8
3 likes@Ty The Great right. When I read it I was like wtf š
0 likes@Magical fairy "it's his fault I read into it"
0 likesNaw, whats worse is going full Snitch and STILL getting the exact same sentence as the other guy who did the dirty work. LMAO
0 likesI'm not saying she shoulda got off scott-free but shiiiit, shave 5 years off that shit for being so THOROUGH, you know what im sayin?
@NagsterTheGangster It's not like she came to the police voluntarily. She had to be interrogated first.
1 like@June Carpenter nobody texting you so you find validation from trolling? There really are weird ass people in this world
0 likes@Maxie Primo I understand that, it just doesn't seem to "balance" well for me that they got the exact same punishment when they don't seem to be the same level of evil. I think it would make me feel better if he got 30+ years and she got the 25 she has now. It's not about the sentence being too harsh, to me its about each person/case being treated individually whereas I don't believe this verdict was. Not to say the jury or judge was wrong in any way, I just think it would have shown more thought to have different sentences.
1 likeA lot of people consider euphemisms for sexual assault against minors like "kiddy fiddling" or "diddling" etc. to be disrespectful.
0 likes@NagsterTheGangster She is just as guilty and sick for letting it happen when she is the one that could have done something to prevent some or all of it. What is your problem? So because she confessed and feels bad about it she is in any capacity less guilty? No she isn't. She did the right thing by coming forward and confessing, but that doesn't make her any less responsible for her actions. I hope you can understand that she is just as guilty, responsible and sick as Michael. They both robbed an 8 year old girl of her life.
0 likesEdit: Terri was in fact the one that killed the 8 year old (Tori) so yes, she is just as sick and twisted as Michael.
@Co Hey, that's just like, your opinion, man.
0 likes@Co you know whose fault it really is, is the little girl Tori. She shouldn't have been dressing/acting so seductively. No sane man could resist her
2 likes@NagsterTheGangster Ah I see. I did not realize that taking part in the kidnapping, rape, and murder of an 8 year old did not make someone in some way sick or twisted and as guilty as the one who planned it. My bad.
0 likes@Co You're acting like I'm saying they're a good person lol. The line for who is a monster was crossed LONG ago. What im describing is that each person should be treated individually of what they did in totality and why they did it rather than just painting with a broad stroke. Example being if someone starts snitching because they get a morality change then that should be added into the equation. If they're snitching to save their own ass because the hammer is coming down, then let that be known as well, and examine that manipulation and adhere it to their sentencing.
0 likesYou seem to have a linear, straight line thinking of good/bad... I think of it more as a Venn-diagram with good and bad overlapping depending how you make your decisions, which makes "you" the middle overlapping part. Their evil may be equivocal, i'm not overly debating that. I'm more getting at the point that they are 2 different people and thus should be investigated and taken into account. It's not that one may be more "evil" than the other, its that their both different kinds of evil that both deserve their individual inquiry.
Anyways, I think we're both preachin to the choir here but we just have a miscommunication on what the other person is trying to convey. Cuz as simple as your comment was, it does make sense at face value. I just think people don't look further than face value these days and we could benefit from doing so. Just my thoughts. Wishing ya the best.
@NagsterTheGangster Hey, that's just like, your opinion, man.
0 likesā@An Alchemist Watches an interrogation of a child murderer, calls someone who shitposts on youtube 'human trash'.
0 likesThey always are the victim. I spent 10 years working in a large jail and every single pedo that came through there whined.
0 likesExactly! So infuriating!
0 likesTwo words is all it took to troll an entire comment sectionā¦ kudos to @tj urboy
0 likesMy jaw hit the floor when they described what happened to her. 16 broken ribs and 4 strikes to the head with a claw hammer. A fucking 8 year old little girl. And how on earth can a WOMAN help in doing this, I honestly cannot understand humans like this. Complete monsters.
6 likesSocial engineering in these videos is astou ding. I knew us and Canada took criminal justice seriously, but never expected it to be this sophisticated.
5 likesI bet going through murder cases, seeing the pictures, learning what was done, interrogating murderers, breaking them, making them confess, gives these detectives a hefty amount of rush.
0 likes45:55 The detective left the picture of the victim on the table. Just messing with the guy and I don't blame them. He did something horrible and then couldn't even bring himself to confess. He's a coward and will always be.
1 likeThis case is heartbreaking, but itās satisfying to see him shaking. He knew his life was over, and thankfully prison isnāt very kind to child touching monsters.
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Yes, this kind of ppl is the worst of the worst. It disgust me and I feel deep sympathy for the poor child's family. The only good thing here is he's going to go through hell in prison, possibly a shanking... Criminals have no tolerance for these guys
93 likesHis life isn't over, he'll get out in his 50s. Only 25 years.... smh. Canada sucks
44 likes@Anna-Maria Lopez he wonāt make it out
83 likes@Anna-Maria Lopez weāll just have to wait and see how far he gets
23 likes"thankfully"
1 like@Anna-Maria Lopez Nah nah. "Life in prison without any chance of parole for 25 years." I don't actually know what that means, but I think it means even after 25 years, there 's only a CHANCE that he gets out.
51 likes@James Nnabuihe it means he can start applying for parole after having spent 25 years in prison, but it doesn't mean that parole will be granted. In cases like these, in all likelihood, the paroles get denied and so the inmate won't ever be let out.
62 likesactually it is. they get protective custody.
10 likeshe was shaking because he was going through opiate withdrawal. I think he used the withdrawals to make it look like he's distraught over being arrested.
22 likes@James Nnabuihe I just finished 2 years and in that time I saw at least 8 or 9 people with sex crimes get stabbed with shanks made from glass broken out the windows!!!!!
12 likes@Sam Es one thing I noticed is that there is levels
0 likes@Coop they wonāt even have him in general population heāll be locked up all alone by himself
6 likes@Hocky Manna good they deserved it!
1 like@Anna-Maria Lopez no, after 25 years he can go in front of a parole board. They don't just let them out after 25 yrs
3 likes@No Bounce, No Play until the guards are in on it and he's left alone where people can access him
10 likesHe bashed her head in with a hammer and broke 16 ribs... That's truly horrific and can't even imagine what she went through..
7 likes@sam and a lacerated liver. I tried thinking what could have caused that and immediately put it from my mind. We know how that part happened. Disgusting. I hope he gets it in prison.
4 likesGuys it's canada, what you get sentenced and what you end up serving are often vastly different even in extreme cases such as rape and murder. The greyhound beheader is already back on the streets for example
0 likesMore satisfying would be pulling the lever on the Edison made Chair
1 likehow do you know... you've been there?
0 likesNot for children not for grown adult. The problem is that is always the weaker that collapse same inside prison. In the wild life rarely the strongest goes against the weakest with this purpose (among the same species I mean) and yes lion kill youngest to insure his genes prevail. Probably if we have 1 billion each of every other species in this world that would be seen a lot more. To me this is artificial selection. We, the society have given a prize to this humans ( murderer) by keeping them alive for a long time just for them come out and do it again. In the next decade this will increase huge the evidence is out there. Iam absolutely sure that amongst all those citizens two have the same thoughts the same brain structure. I vote for when an advocate wants to defend this people he should be half paid
0 likes@Pedro Reis WAAA??
1 like@Hocky Manna excellent
0 likes@Rat guards canāt just look away. There are multiple systems, video, etc that make sure the guards donāt let him get violated. Sad but true.
1 like@Rob and the Van the hammer?
0 likesYou mean like every mother who has had their son circumcised?
0 likesOh yea ... thatās a real thing ! Fortunately, I almost guarantee he will draw a cop that hates these sickos enough to let the pop get after him !
0 likesThat's usually the case in prisons but not in Canada. These monsters are protected in this country, in and out of prison. Our sex offender list in Canada isn't even public. Basically you can commit these heinous acts, be protected and then get released after a measly 25 years. This country's judicial system is one of the world's worst.
1 likeEspecially not child touching murderers
0 likesCanada failed to lock him up for good sadly
0 likesNothing about this is satisfying
0 likesLol this is Canada. Heāll be out within a few years with no restrictions. Also his community most likely wonāt be notified
0 likes@Anna-Maria Lopez he will make it out becaus they will put him in PC , so he can't be touched.
0 likes@Coop you're probably right, I can't see him surviving a 25 year sentence, not for something like this, they'll destroy him inside and if not I can't see him making it to his fifties, with all his emotions being bad ones with hardly any positive ones will take its toll and make the possibility of a heart attack a lot more likely.
1 likeNot likely. I'm a severe case like this, he'll probably be kept behind bars for the rest of his life.
0 likesYAY, REHABILITATION IS A LIE. I agree this man is a horrible monster who deserves to loose his freedom, but prison was originally meant to spit those shit stain back out into society as decent human beings. It would be quite a hopless and sad idea to view prison as some sort of hell.
0 likesIn the U.S. a life sentence typically means 22-25 yrs & in this case they got no parole for 25 yrs which means they'll likely be paroled in 25 yrs especially if there's "good behavior." For pedo/child murderer cases that are proven by forensics there should be an automatic "natural life sentence WITHOUT the possibility of parole." That is IF the death penalty isn't an option in that state. There is no rehabilitation for monsters like that. They show their victims no mercy & they themselves should be afforded no mercy either.
1 likeOmg, he makes me so mad. The fact he can act like he's innocent, pure evil.
6 likesI've been binging on these crime channels lately and I didn't realise we have a lot of notorious murderers here in Canada. Considering the size of our population, we seem to punch above our weight. Imagine if Canada has a warmer climate year round, we may have the highest number of monsters per capita considering winter alone can kill you in most Canadian cities - majority of our murders happen during warmer weather.
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My hometown of London, Ontario was the serial killer capital of North America in the 70ās and 80ās. 6 operating roughly at the same time. Thereās a book about it.
1 like@OliviaAlexandra Weber Murder City. Fantastic book.
0 likesI love that he had to sit through this while going through opiate withdrawal. Deserves every second of it.
0 likesThe detective, Jim Smyth, has a very recognizable voice. It took me a little while to place it, but I realized he's the same detective that interrogated Colonel Russell Williams. He's an amazing interrogator!
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Yeah I was thinking the exact same, well & truly lost in a crime video binge ! then saw your comment
37 likesOh my gosh thatās RIGHT! I didnāt make this connection.
12 likesMy mum sat in on every day of that case in Brockville.
7 likesI was looking for this comment, i knew I recognized his voice from somewhere
7 likes@Illegale Wahrheiten nope, not that guy, we are talking about the guy at the very beginning interviewing the girl
3 likesThats right. I felt he broke the colonel down hella dast tho.
3 likesthanks for pointing that out, didn't realize it until you said it. It's kinda like he was playing 2 very different roles in those two interviews
1 likeOH SHIT IT IS
1 likehow
0 likesNo. His name is Chris, he introduced himself at the beginning of interrogation.
5 likesWow.. way to make that connection. That's amazing
0 likes@Tomislav B. the first detective introduced himself as Chris Lome (spelling?). The next interrogator is Jim Smyth. He uses an interrogation technique...he's famous with interviewing Russell Williams
6 likes@Jake Dilla good cop bad cop...is what JS played here
0 likesOH WHAT??
0 likesHe sounds like Ricky from Trailer Park Boys
2 likesThis detective sargeant Chris Loam of the OPP interviewing Rafferty.
1 likeJust goes to show all the training and hard work they go through is worth it. He was great in both instances.
0 likesFirst det. is Chris Loam. Jim Smyth enters the room at 33:33 and 46:20. Jim also interrogated Terri-Lynne McClintic and Russel Williams. Jim was also the one who found Tori's remains and he attended her funeral.
4 likesI only watched that last week, for sure it's him. What a great man to stay so calm and catch these killers
0 likesThanks for the reminder. I would like for him to have a channel. He is amazing.
1 likeInterrogator is Chris Loam. Could be wrong spelling.
1 likeJim Smyth is a GOAT
1 likeI was thinking that, and youāre right.
0 likesWao thats true !! And thanks because you mention about him interrogates a Colonel and after this one was done i looked for it ...thanks
0 likes@Sam Goodman Also appears half way through as the 'bad cop' to interview the guy
1 likeYes heās brilliant
1 likeYes !
0 likesAnd Jennifer Pan as well I think š
0 likes@Sam Goodman dude is a legendary policeman & at the top of his game in these interrogations. So terrible that woman had a chance to save that poor child & chose to turn her head & walk away. Theres a special place in hell for people like this I hope.
1 like@Susan hitchman evans the behaviour panel here on YouTube has an interview with Jim. Itās well worth a look.
0 likesGood spot!!
0 likesYeah he's the best of the best that's why he's got that highly positioned job in the first place.
0 likesReally??? I honestly had no idea!
0 likesIāve never been a person to fantasise about vengeance. But after watching this I would enjoy ensuring that these two āthingsā spent their last hours in total pain and abject humiliation. Iād make sure that that they were violated and degraded in ways that make them weep and beg.
3 likesI have such a respect for those officers, anyone who can sit there and exercise a level of restraint in this scenario illustrates some fantastic police work.
Man this guy is good. He blew me away. I think I would have copped to him pretty soon just so that he would like me too. This interrogator is incredibly skilled at make-believe friendliness.
0 likesDetective Sargent Jim Smyth is the best of the best. He is truly brilliant at his job!
0 likesIt's sad how we ALL can relate to the detective being desensitized to these things, we all can relate to that if you watch a lot of these interrogations like I have for years... I used to cry listening to these stories but, that seems to have faded away now unfortunately
2 likesI've never seen an offender quiver like this guy, in contrast to the crimes he committed. It seems like he's an empathic person since he's very emotive yet it's almost unheard of for an empathic person to do what he's done!
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Thing is they are affected. The detectives actually hate the person even outside the room other detective want to kill the man. However this is a job. His job is to get as much incriminating evidence. That's why there's processes these detective talks. I mean he started off actually trying to " entice" him to feel okay and to get "his story out". Then slowly he turns to finger blaming etc. These are all technique's to make sure the response he gets are in the way he wants to hear. So sure while they are kinda desensitize, they definitely feel disgust.
0 likesVery true... They're all affected by it, how could they not be. The job tends to hardens their hearts, it turns them cold twords self induced suffering as they've seen so much actual legit suffering... It's just like war yet detectives rarely get the PTSD treatment they should... It should be mandatory for major crime detectives or those that deal with children...
0 likesItās crazy how you can avoid this situation by NOT raping and murdering a child
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Damn i had no ideaš¤Æ
1880 likesCongratulations,now you have received 69 likes. Balanced as all things should be.
349 likes@Viko Ivanov your comment was made irrelevant by the passage of time. Not much of it though.
1075 likesIt's not difficult to pull off
156 likesI know, right? If only it were that easy.
88 likes@Chad Nogskillen lol
2 likesDammn
4 likesYes but if you really want to though?! Then what?
24 likesOh great, NOW you tell me
100 likesAh yes. The common sense.
116 likesSomething these monsters dont have.
Oh. Ooohhhh.....
14 likesNice Lifehack, Thanks dude!
45 likes@xSenpai Sky *luring
11 likesLIFE HAX
12 likes@John B GET HELP
92 likesIt sounds funny at first cuz I thought this situation means the long ass ramblingš
6 likesLifehack
5 likes@SunOfCinder Join us next week on 5 minute crafts
23 likeshow could you hurt a child. I cant wrap my head around shit like this. I have a nephew who i love very much and when i hear shit like this, i can feel the pain that this family went through.....its disgusting.
108 likesThat's too hard though.
3 likeswait really š² whew! so glad ill never have to go through this.
6 likesImprobable
2 likesDang, I'll have to keep that in mind next time.
7 likesThis is New to me. I like you
9 likesWant to see a puppy?
10 likes@Mommy Bat Jeff just really wanted to sample prison food.
8 likes@John B Get lots of money.. go to third world country..
10 likes"You'll never believe this one trick!"
17 likes@Enflamed Huevos subbed
2 likesno, there are more innocent people in jail than criminals. in 2100s people will condemn these interrogation tactics as an assault on human cognitive faculties and psyche.
7 likes@Martin Stu Yeah, that definitely happens, but in this particular case he 100% did it
51 likesI cant fathom Why or How? I can ALMOST understand Why someone would have the urges to hurt someone, anger, revenge, so on... but rapping and murdering a child? WHY? Whats the motive? Whats the benefit? Even if you dont Care about the kidās life, Why would you fucking do it? It makes No sense
20 likesIt is incredible how there are people who can have such well developed lateral thinking
5 likes@Riley Howell you need help.
4 likesYou realize porn ruins lives
26 likesCrazy.
1 likeWoah!
3 likesI wish I had thought of That sooner!
Iād have given that kindāof advice to tell my sister
Enflamed Huevos unfunny
1 like@Lemoncholy You don't understand satire or humour.
2 likesVery simply
1 like@Lemoncholy Itās not a joke, itās a statement of truth
7 likesInvestigators hate him! Avoid interrogations with this one simple trick...
21 likesDamn... makes sense lmao
2 likesEasier said than done.
1 likeJust listening to the detectives describe what this guy did made me want to puke.
13 likesno way thats crazy
3 likesidk man that's asking for a lot
6 likesThe shit that scares me is this happened in my fucking city
8 likesthe funny thing is its not that crazy.
5 likesit is in fact, completely sane to not do those things
Oh. Wows okay. Seriously? Wow. Geez Somebody must listen to Faux news!
3 likesdont think ya read that correctly
2 likesBig facts
2 likesOr anyone.
3 likesI know right, itās just fucking sad that people ruin their lives lives like this. Like why
5 likes@Martin Stu that's just not true, but you can keep lying to yourself if you want
4 likes@Martin Stu do you really think that lawyers have never heard what coercion is?
3 likesBoom. Mind = blown
3 likesRight? This guy's a real jerk
3 likesso true, so true
3 likesš 6.9K
5 likesPlus the darned cp they found on him :/
5 likes@Enflamed Huevos no there is no difference, that p had to be made, and so therefore a c got hurt regardless, just at the expense now for amusement and also the original filming
13 likesOk but to be fair he hadn't eaten in like six hours
6 likesCrazy world we live in huh
1 likeThat's a nice life hack
3 likes10/10 I recommend not commiting crimes as well.
8 likesLife can be quite enchanting if you dont harm others. Who knew?
10 likesYeah. And it's easy not to do too.
4 likesCalm down Einstein, your genius is too much for the world to handle.
10 likes@Cheong-San The Baddest its a joke hun
4 likesyou would think it was that simple....to most, anyway....I mean...wtf was he thinking??
3 likes@John B Then you still donāt. Not really that hard.
1 likeI know. Isn't that weird?
3 likesYeah itās amazing what clean living can do for you.
3 likesYour genius generates gravity
7 likesDam, for real?
4 likes5 minute crafts š¤Æ
7 likesOr just donāt get caught
2 likes"I'll make you a deal sir. I'll confess if you stop saying okay at the end of every fucking sentence"
7 likes@Enflamed Huevos dude youre killin me hahaha
1 likeLife hack
2 likesBro fr tho
2 likesIts also crazy that the woman did not stop him.
3 likesNah, thats impossible. Deep down were all monsters. Especially an Enflamed Huevos!!!
3 likes@Mommy Bat People that are fucked up in the head cant simply be understood by normal people. That is the terrifying part. Anybody can do this.
2 likes@Mommy Bat Dahmer only got worse in prison. Arranging his hot dogs ketchup to look like crime scenes, or , eroticism to him. Whilst working in prison,poking his mop in the rear of fellow inmates in prison. He got exactly what he deserved. I kinda have some sympathy for the man that murdered him.
2 likes@ellery eggen oh Iām not defending him whatsoever, Iām just stating the fact that he acknowledged he deserved to be in prison and should never be let out.
3 likesAsk Guy Paul Moran if he avoided this situation even though he did nothing wrong.
2 likesIt's probably the EASIEST thing you could ever do
2 likesIf only you where his lawyer!!!!
2 likeswoah!!! i was wondering how to avoid that š§š§š§ thanks for the help!
4 likes@John B Then you . . . Don't (?)
0 likesor by getting a lawyer...
1 likeItās pretty easy to be honest
3 likesMostly a mistake make by noobs.
@JDS im just curious how they got away with such a low burden of proof, did they find DNA evidence? did they find any single way to link him to the crime outside of the girlfriends testimony?
1 like@CHAMPbastien Iām pretty sure it would have been DNA evidence.
0 likes"One Weird Trick" to not spend 25 to life in a Canadian penitentiary.
3 likesItās not that hard either. Iāve spent the last 40 years NOT raping and murdering kids.
4 likesA LITERAL 8 YEAR OLD WTF
2 likes#lifehack
5 likesOn a serious note this dude is pure evil.
just followed for more life hacksšš
3 likesLmfao š¤£
1 likeInnocents get dragged into this too
2 likes@Mommy Bat yea, Dhamer did acknowledge he was a monster. He interviewed with Dr. Park Dietz. Maybe an attempt at helping to provide an understanding of such abhorrent behaviour. Maybe helping to prevent this loss of so many lives on the future.
1 like@John B Having pedophile tendencies and acting on them are two different things. You can have the urge and still donāt do it. Instead you can learn how to deal with them or what the reason for your tendency is. There is actually special therapy for this!
5 likes@Martin Stu That is not true at all. Where are your statistics or proof? If it jailed innocent people it wouldnt be globally used
0 likesBiblically, its ok
0 likesWAHAHAHAHAHA.
0 likes@huepix What? How ?
1 like2 simple steps to keep you out of Jail, watch the video to learn more!
1 likeYou're not the boss of me.
1 like@eddyk I am the boss of you... I demand you give cunnleingus now!
0 likesidk how to spell that
The sad part is that both of them. BOTH of them involved had many chances to back out and let her go. But they didnāt.
2 likesLawyers hate this ONE simple trick for escaping prison time
3 likesNo kidding?! Hot dang! Glad you told me now while Iāve still got my whole life ahead of me (especially since Iām pursuing a career as a teacher. Donāt need a nasty mess like that).
1 like@Viko Ivanov How far weāve come in only 4 weeks
1 like@Enflamed Huevos indeed. Balanced has been breached, but success emerged.
0 likes@Azriel Jale nice name lmao
0 likesVery curious to when TF does these type of ideas seep into there head.... Im talking about non molested suspects.... Truly sick
1 likeThatās some useful information. Thanks for the life hack!
0 likes@Alexander Erickson q
0 likes@Riley Howell wait...what?
0 likes1Ā²
0 likes@D k after a few replies I realized how vague my statement was. let me rephrase. "it's not that hard to avoid doing heinous things"
0 likesthe simplest problems have the hardest solutions šš¤š¼š¤š¼
0 likes@Riley Howell I figured thatās what you meant. But there are some pretty nasty people on the internet. Thanks for clearing that up for me š
0 likesThere are to much bread and butter around
0 likesDamn that hits different
0 likesOh damn, that's so smart
0 likesWhat???
0 likes@Travis Storm huhhh??? š³
0 likes@ā¢Happy Haleyā¢ š»
0 likesYall dudes wouldnt joke so much about rape if your chances of being raped didnt go down once you left adolesence, i gotta worry about this shit daily. Just having a smoke outside of my house i worry, I fkn hate life.
0 likes@WizZz FizZz unless youāre secretly into that sort of thing
1 likeGood advice Iāll keep it in mind next time
0 likesOh so THATS what Iāve been doing wrong. Duuuhh
0 likesYeah what drives these people. Iām to lazy to walk to the shop sometimes. Itās like they are another species.
1 likeHuh? How can you get into any situation by not raping and murdering anyone? What?
0 likesYes, we may think its so easy but impulse is very strong and its a mental illness
0 likes@Tukloo 23 same, i have a seven year old sister
0 likesexactly
0 likesF-ing crazy
0 likesHappens to the best of us
0 likes@Viko Ivanov aw im late
0 likes@Mommy Bat dahmer loves em fesh
1 like@Jay Simpson i just made your comment likes 369
0 likes@Pyrohead and now your comment has met the same fate.
0 likesWrite that down, WRITE THAT DOWN
0 likesIts crazy how you can avoid murdering someone by not murdering someone
0 likesAmen
0 likesYeah no shit...but evil people gonna do evil shit
0 likesWait. Explain that again.
0 likesJeffrey Dahmer 'visible confusion'
0 likesTed Bundy "What's Jeff doing?"
Richard Kuklinski "Epiphany...I think"
Donald Gaskins "Hey, can I get a ride?"
Jane Toppan "Of course"
Many people wish they knew this before ā
0 likesFind help immediately if you even think about it
0 likesIāve not murdered at least 30 people today
0 likesI've heard that theory before.
2 likessometimes human instincts are just too much to ignore
0 likes@Jay Simpson we just gotta get it to 69K likes
0 likes@Riley Howell if you're a good person it is very difficult to pull off
0 likes@John B you get professional help and spare innocent lives
0 likes@Jon Smith you have something you want to get off your chest??
0 likesWowā¦ I never could have guessed.
0 likesThe little girl fell for the damn puppy trick
0 likesI agree, i follow that rule every day, porridge for breakfast, don't rape and murder, fish for dinner, continue to not rape and murder, early to bed, alone.
0 likes@Brian Dawkins FAIR? I DON'T CARE IF HE EVER EATS AGAIN! HIS VICTIM WILL NEVER EAT AGAIN.
0 likes@Stacey Obrien sir you need to calm down
0 likes@Mommy Bat I can actually respect people regardless of what they have done by just telling the truth and understanding how unforgivable the crime they did was.
0 likes@John B what.
0 likesbro are you doing ok?
FR,WOW mike should have got that good advice
0 likes@Viko Ivanov average YouTube user casually makes a "69 nice" reply on a comment about someone killing a kid
0 likes@Anthony can you not make jokes like that? Itās actually just disgusting to even joke about it
0 likes@T wow you really took the time to let me know that offended you. Like I care at all. LOL
0 likesOr getting help for your sick impulses
1 likeWOW
0 likesI always think about this when it comes to people that planned out and committed horrific crimes. If they just DIDN'T DO IT they could be doing anything else right now besides sitting in a box forever.
1 like@Nicolas Cataldo tell that to Dalton Aiken
0 likesMOST importantly you avoid HELL
1 likeAno. Comming in crying and feeling sorry for themselves š”
1 likeWow couldnāt be me
0 likesnew tiktok challenge (impossible)
0 likesI know right?
0 likesAnd yet, even knowing I'll never do anything like any of the crimes JCS has ever covered, seeing these interrogations makes me scared shitless I'm going to be interrogated like this one day for some reason.
1 like@jcmick84 I think the hypocrisy is the worst thing, personally
1 likeDidn't see that one on 5 minutes crafts.
0 likesThe more you know
0 likesIf we were capable of easily changing our own behavior, we would all be great and amazing human beings.
0 likesKudos to the ppl going all their lives without raping and murdering a childššš
0 likesMind blowing! š
0 likesyea but what if u had to
0 likes@bruh_balisongflips what?
0 likes@Mommy Bat Yeah, well done, Jeff - people should be more like Jeff.
0 likesMurdering can be an accident, a self-defense, or the act of protection, but raping of any form can't
0 likesI want to know what the woman who helped him was thinking, what was her motivation?
1 likeNow that's a pro tip if I ever heard one...
0 likesbrb
0 likes@Anthony š
0 likesLife hack:
1 like@John B then you should stand out in the road and wait of a semi.
0 likesCops hate you for this life hackā¦š¤Æ
0 likes@Alexander Erickson pWell
0 likesno way bro no way? i shouldve known that
0 likes@Cheong-San The Baddest kpop isn't good, but you opinion on this matter is good
0 likes@John B Uh oh somebody watch this man.
0 likes@Earthsideasia No, being a psycho does.
0 likes9 out of 10 Doctors agree.
0 likesI will "try"
0 likesLife hacks are getting out of hand
0 likes"ummmm acshuallly"
0 likes@Viko Ivanov congratulations hater they now have 27k likes š
0 likes@Hector Alvares ?
0 likesSuch a RELIEF
0 likesChallenge accepted
0 likesJust plain common sense.
0 likesAlfred Hitchcock was phobic of police to the point of not driving.
0 likesIt's crazy how this joke is put under almost every of this videos and still get's this amount of likes...
0 likesthis one simple trick to avoid prison ^ Doctors hate him
0 likesDuh!
0 likesDid you just confess to the same crime?
0 likessecond time im watching this video, accidentally unliked the comment cause i wanted to like it again
0 likesikr itās like the easiest thing in the world to avoid just donāt kill and fuck kidsš like whatās not clicking
0 likes@Janice Wood my comment meant it's not hard to avoid being a predator in the first place. Like in the same way it's easy to wake up everyday and not murder anyone x I can see how the language is vague and can read inappropriately.
0 likestaps forehead
0 likes@Riley Howell wth
0 likes@Viko Ivanov Interesting, at the time I wanted to answer to this comment, I saw yours and it is right now still kinda balanced with 30030 (30 0 30).
0 likesSo easy but true comment. Watching these videos I always say to me: donāt matter what my issues in life are, I will never ever sit in an interrogation room facing the fact I killed a child (besides the situation in which I falsely get accused but I donāt think this to be happening).
0 likesOr just get a lawyer
0 likesTop Ten Life Hacks You Wonāt Believe
0 likes@John B then you fucking listen to the law that it's an offense and therefore shouldn't be done.
0 likes"The prison industrial complex HATES this one weird trick!"
0 likes@Jay Simpson just replace 69 with 30 000
0 likes31k now lol
0 likesIn fairness, anyone who does one of those two things lacks the empathy to recognize the sympathy card is out.
0 likesJohn B u go to therapy but u asking a ignorant question makes me question if u want to
0 likes@spooky doot doot yeah they need him on the moon
0 likeswow
0 likesYou are making it sound so damn easy
0 likesBig brain moment right here
0 likesHow can someone do that? It takes a real saint to be able to resist that kind of urge.
0 likesItās honestly kind of a crazy strategy, but itās working for me so far
1 likeYou mean he had a choice?!
1 likeGood call
0 likesWhat?
0 likesYou're homeless? Just buy a house.
0 likeswho would've thought?
0 likes@Enflamed Huevos watching that stuff still harms children because they have to be harmed to produce the content.
0 likes@Viko Ivanov 33 thousand now Viko. How's that feel?
0 likesbig brain
0 likes@Azriel Jale i feel like its more of a morality thing they know whatās right and wrong but they still decide to go for the wrong side
0 likesHard task for some people unfortunately
0 likesthe prison industry hates him: this one simple trick to not spend the rest of your life in jail.
0 likesWhat a great discovery!! Nobody could have figured it out without your comment....
0 likes@Azriel Jale sometimes it's not that, there's many factors.
0 likesNot defending them just explaining how and why some people have an exceptions.
There are people who have trauma of it and belive its right, some people have D.I.D or maybe a split personality.
But most are monsters
These things happen. People make mistakes. :/
1 like@Al Canz I know, I was joking. I was copying the detective.
0 likesBut thatās no fun
0 likesSerious big brain stuff
0 likesWhy do ya always say the same comment on every jcs video!?
1 likeHow is that "crazy"?
0 likes@NapoleonFuckeged This guy officer
0 likesIāve been successfully following this strategy for years! Def works. Ok now Iām going bowling.
0 likesi was REALLY worried that the girl was going to get off on a lighter sentencie
0 likesInteresting strategy š¤
0 likesAs a victim myself i truely wish these kind of ppl the worst.
0 likesThe amount of inappropriate attempts at humor in this comment section is extremely distasteful
0 likesThis man playing 5D chess and we all playing checkers...
0 likes@Martin Stu fr. These psych tactics work just as well to coerce admission of guilt from an innocent person as they do from a guilty one. The difference is that a psychopath is less susceptible to psych interrogations than a normal person; which it takes a psychopath to commit crimes this atrocious.
0 likesReally? That sounds rather challenging
0 likes@Chad Nogskillen not killing someone, for most ppl is hard to not do.
0 likesI keep wondering what goes through a person's brain when they do things like this, as if he was a junkie needing money for a fix and the only way to get it was to violate and kill that child. Most people have the occasional weird or inappropriate sexual impulse that they'd never act on or even share with their own partner but what makes the impulse control of an adult with no disabilities just crash like that? I wish that behavioral science research unit all the luck in the world.
0 likes@John B Idk maybe resist the urge...? Maintain a moral compass.....
0 likesBut I know you're being a cringey edgelord, so I'm sure you're fine. Seriously though don't do bad things.. please
@John B Why. Just why say that
0 likescareful they will hear the secret
0 likesRight? Nothing is more easily avoidable... All you have to be is a half-way decent person.
0 likeslifehack
0 likesWas there a situation where you could avoid it? Comments like yours sound suspicious.
0 likesIām happy chilling in my house playing video games.
1 likeBest story ever told š¤š
0 likesThey canāt help themselves
0 likesA jeez, but that's so hard
0 likesIT'S A JOKE, IT'S A JOKE, NSA PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON'T SEND A HIT SQUAD
@Martin Stu have you been to jail?? I have a few times and I promise there is NOT more innocent that guilty inside. š
1 likeOfficers HATE this one easy trick!
1 likereally blown away how just like the police office stated, he could have let her live and taken a much less consequences...people are just plain stupid i guess :( RIP little girl
0 likesI watch these videos and I keep thinking the same thing: How in the hell can anyone actually do such horrific things. I can't even begin to fathom the mindset of people like this.
0 likesI'm glad I'm never going to be in this situation.This is just sickening
0 likesI never really thought of it like that
0 likes@Viko Ivanov would you make this joke at the funeral of your father?
0 likesItās crazy that we are not all the same, if that was the case there would be no cops etc, we would all be good and that would be that but unfortunately thatās not the case
0 likesDonāt hurt children. I hope this dude never gets out.
1 likeThe scariest part is we probably interact with "things" like Micheal without ever knowing it.
3 likesIām being addicted to those kind of investigationās i love how they talk and analyze the laying wow and another thing make me always confused why those ppl do something like that how can someone murdur or kill somebody omg I canāt believe that
2 likesImagine the deeeeep breath this interrogator takes every time he's about to walk into a room to his job and act like this,
5 likesKudos to him
Thank God these videos are back up, I've already got these downloaded in case they go down again. Love you Jim
13 likesHe's actually, truly feeling sorry for himself, isn't he? There isn't the slightest bit of remorse, he's only sorry he got caught and that Terri Lynn is talking to the police.
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The only thing hes sorry about is that he wasnt able to get high before he was arrested. Hes sniffling because hes dope sick
68 likesYeah heās sorry that he got caught
15 likesthe only thing on his mind is im gonna sit in prison for the rest of my life...nothing more.
17 likesI don't even think he thinking about going to jail. All he is bothered about is getting out and scoring drugs.
18 likesHe doesn't care what he did to Tori.
He is just thinking about himself and feeling sorry for himself and that's it.
I bet he has had plenty of "floor justice"...then again probably not because these pieces of shit seem to be protected more than anybody else.
I live down the street and through my own scouring and investigating, I think the mother was involved. She owed alot of money to dangerous people, she acted shady and lied about certain things after the case, and the area he allegedly took her through (college ave secondary school) was riddled with cameras but very little footage was recovered.
5 likesShe was murdered but not by Rafferty, I think.
Omair Sheikh you hit it right on the head. The fact that heās unable to to show any sort of remorse is sick! RIP that little girl
3 likesSari, thats the thing that always gets me,they have no remorse, nor sadness,only self pity that they have been caught, and one thing they shouldnt be allowed to say and that is "Im sorry" thats got to cut so deep especially when its a defenseless child, and with a claw hammer !!!! CAN YOU IMAGINE !!!!!!
2 likesYeh
2 likes@A Little Life Left Aboot*
0 likesSari J , Yep. That there is a sociopath.
1 likedont get it twisted Terri LYnn is no better at all.
2 likes@Shlomo PilpulStein keep up the fight. You can win it. I will pray for your inner strength.
0 likes@Guides Galore you are exactly right. She got that girl killed.
3 likeshes truly a prime living example of how our oxygen resources and tax payments are being completely wasted.
0 likesthat "You want to get out of that fucking security blanket, and be a man" comment from the "bad" cop was brutal. Factual, but brutal
3 likesThe suspect having to sit and listen to this cop absolutely BABBLING for an hour is justice in itself. He just rambles and yammers...
1 likeIt's hard to believe these hardcore criminals are never smart enough to remain silent and demand a lawyer.
2 likesHow can he even think to deny being involved in the crime when he knows all the evidence against him?
2 likesKiller: āI think youāre a funnny manā
2447 likesDetective: āI think youāre a cold blooded killerā. These detectives were very patient with this evil rude moron.
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I couldn`t be so patient with the killer!
31 likesSometimes I wish they could beat these people up and I know thatās inhumane and cruel but stuff like this just makes me so angry
59 likesWhats the time on video that he says this?
1 like52:46
13 likes@Sadie Ireland could not agree more. Sure justice system has improved over centuries but still lacks the true justice in these horrific cases. People say "prison is worse". No, nothing worse than losing ur life forever. He breathes, the girl's lifeless body rots. Not justice in my book.
6 likesMy hope is that when tech will be good enough to eliminate chance of error, cases like these will lead to death for these worthless humans.
The prison system works in the sense that when the populace inside the prison finds out what he did, they will deal with him.
3 likes@Tired Pillow they can in most countries
0 likesMe and my family are from Woodstock my sister went to school with her bother the poor boy lost his sister I canāt imagine her parents werenāt the most attentive or great tbhā¦. Super sad evil exists people and itās lurking in our communities be safe look out for one another ā¤ļø
0 likesThis detective speaks so quickly!! It's such an incredible skill
0 likesThe amount of restraint these detectives have from not pummeling the complete sh*t out of this filth is impressive. Hopefully gen pop took good care of this POS.
1 likeI admire Jim Smith, an incredible interrogator.
0 likesThis detective was so assuring and understanding that he made ME feel relaxed to talk about a murder I haven't even committed š©
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SAME
15 likesWhich is why you never talk to the police
51 likesFacts š
6 likes@ramsfancasey i was about to write 'well if you've done nothing wrong' but then I thought of suspects being beaten until they confess and, as Reservoir Dogs said more eloquently, after a point a person will admit to anything to get the pain to stop. this detective is the opposite extreme. calm and nice and lulls you into false security.
12 likeswould that be enough to get an innocent person to admit to something? perhaps.
@a Draigon ???
4 likes@a Draigon @fbi
2 likes@a Draigon 100%. Even if youāre completely innocent, you donāt talk.
1 likeItās their job to get a confession out of you even if you didnāt do it.
Lol
0 likesGod freaking damn it, dude, how professional can a detective be
2 likesI can safely say that I could never be a cop, Iām a full time single dad of a 12 year old girl.
0 likesThe biggest thing in my life is my child and the only thing that really gets to me is anything bad happening to children.
If I was in a room with this sick fuck I can safely say he wouldnāt be walking out of the room or ever again.
This man committed this crime. He was walking around trying his best to act like he didn't before this. Idk how these professionals can be this cool calm and collected with this monster who is capable of something like this.
0 likesDamn the second cop was awesomely brutal. First time in these interrogations that I've heard a cop curse at a criminal.
0 likesHeās a big man to a little helpless girl, but a coward to a grown man, canāt even look the investigator in the eyesā¦ Disgustingā¦
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@M M lol look at his comment history, actual saddo.
11 likes@M M heās not Martin Luther King, heās not.
2 likesPsychology. Im interested who or what made him. It is important to tell people to prevent more such a behaviour
0 likesmost of these type of people are weasels....thats why they prey on helpless victims
2 likes@OSSS Boys š± say it's not true
2 likes@Gordon Alias Me it's not
0 likesYou need a tik tac bro
1 like@OSSS Boys Disgusting trying to promote your channel on a video like this. especially with that video do you think it's a joke what happened to that child?
3 likes@Dylan Taaffe I think I sent yall the wrong link by accident
0 likesMost pedos often are.
0 likesThis is why they get seriously beaten in prison by other inmates.
I'd like to show him his own insides. I would not be able to control myself.
0 likesNow hear me out..
3 likesHearing the fear in Michaelās voice is truly satisfying after knowing what heās done
It's appalling to see what human beings can do.š
0 likesHad to come back this, miss JCS but this Canadian Detective is the whole bag, his shIt cool Canadian accent and "matter of fact...right Mike, right Mike", is just brilliant, he's my new hero. And in a subtle way he broke this horrible Monster down. God Bless Canada, right Mike
3 likesI was arrested for drunken disorderly when I was a lot younger; I got into a fight with another lad; nothing serious. I woke up hungover the following day, and they did the whole good cop, bad cop thing. I could tell it was an attempt to scare me straight, so I just said I realise you're doing the bad cop thing, I already feel ashamed of myself, and can we not do this. He did keep shouting for a bit but eventually stopped; I was being polite and was asking nicely; I'm not even sure if I got a caution in the end. Anyway, the story's point is I don't see how people don't realise what they're up to; it's very transparent.
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What bollocks
0 likesThe detective talking for over a half hour non-stop almost made me confess
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49 likesLol! I was thinking the same thing! I thought - Iāll tell you anything if you just stop!
238 likes"Okay, fine! I did it! I took the cookie out of the jar! I was hungry! Just please, please stop!"
291 likesI ate the last cookie !!! It was me!
60 likes@Alventura De la Cruz But you havenāt touched your doughnut
99 likesDamn u funny š¤£š¤£š¤£
5 likesAlmost made me sleep, and i just woke up.
11 likesI was looking for your comment because I just knew I couldn't be the only one who thought that! š¤£š¤£š¤£
20 likesImagine being his kid and stealing change out of his jacket lol
34 likeslol
1 likeLooks more like an attorney than detective.
2 likesšš¤£ me too!
0 likesI never knew there was someone that could talk more than my mother-in-law. Itās that detectiveās wife I feel most sad. Every night at dinner he just goes on and on.
19 likes"It's true! I served you that unglazed doughnut! Just please... stop talking..."
10 likesLol!!!
0 likesIn the full interview he talks for nearly 2 hours straight
15 likesExactly. That is actually a super big problem in the PD. Sometimes the detectives will convince you to confess to something you didnāt do.
12 likesI wish he woulda gotten me a bucket.
0 likesLmao omg same!! Ok ok ok already!!! Thatās an amazing tactic š¤£š¤£š¤£
1 likeLike Jim Carey coming out of the elevator in Liar Liar.. āIT WAS MEEEEEEEE!!ā š¤£š¤£š¤£
5 likesāOkay! I did it! Just SHUT UP! Geeeez!!ā
4 likescame to say this
0 likesYou canāt eat your pudding if you donāt eat your meat
2 likesš¤£
0 likesHahahhahaha
0 likesI fast forwarded it to at least 20 different places hoping to hear silence or the perp talking...it was always just the detective running his mouth!
3 likesHe's got those dad "I'm not angry just disappointed" vibes hard
9 likesšš i was going to fast forward at some point š©
0 likesXD
0 likessome do that !1
0 likesTruly. This guy could talk a cat off a fish cart.
3 likesI had to fast forward. Thought he would never shut up.
3 likesI think the detective said all of that without taking a single breath
1 likeI'd probably get on well with that detective. I have a habit of talking a lot too
1 likeThat's the point!
0 likesš¤£š
0 likesBrilliant šš
1 likeI never realized how much of this video is ONLY the detective talking.
1 likeGo on...
0 likes@Myfanwy I don't think innocent would behave like this, innocent in my opinion would say I didn't do anything and yell, I know I would go crazy not just sit there curled like a puppy, if crime was some small brake in, theft, I would probably behave less crazy, but being suspect in this kind of horrible crime that I didn't do, I would jump on that table and yell I didn't do it go out and do your job. What fck evidence show me that evidence show me my face on video.
1 like@Samir DonÄiÄ oh no without a doubt he is guilty, Iām just saying that under the same interrogation techniques, many have given false confessions because of a low psychological endurance to the harsh methods of the detective
0 likes@Myfanwy yes, because they don't know how to ask for a lawyer when get arrested, if police think you did something its the worst idea talk to them without a lawyer.
1 likešššššš
0 likesHe really got me like: āFine! I admitā¦ I ate the last of the cookies.. okay? Iām sorry.. šā
1 likeYESSSSSSS! I COULDNT TAKE IT
0 likesI'd confess so this dude would stop talking. I'm just worried about his throat.
1 likeFantastic video, fantastic insight into a horrible crime
0 likesif it wasn't for the camera they would never find out :( God knows how many more cases out there like that...how can you do this to a child to anyone , pure evil.
0 likesLove this channel, so glad I found it please keep up the good work..
0 likesWhat a sick man. Idk how he thinks there is a chance they donāt have him guilty as sin for this horrendous act. Heās pure EVIL.
0 likesāEnjoy the rest of your life. This is the kind of room youāre gonna be spending it in.ā
15241 likesWhat an exit line
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Some true poetic lines right there the likes of Nikola Tesla wouldnāt even comprehend... wow
243 likesI even liked "We all make mistakes - that's why pencils have erasers." In the context he used it it's such a strong yet so super inadequate metaphor that it might actually caused something to happen inside the head of Michael
496 likesThat detective was a fucking savage. I loved listening to him absolutely tear into the guy
467 likes55:55
95 likesMax lmfao thereās videos of him interrogation other killers like Paul Bernardo and he roasts them all, heās known around here as a very good detective but heās also hilarious sometimes
232 likesāGet rid of the fucking security blanket and act like a manā
362 likeswtf is your profile picture dude... but yeah this guy is good
28 likesJust and a toilet and another smelly guy and thats the kinda room ur gonna spend it in.
10 likesFrom now on he won't be living a life, living a life is over for him, from now on he will merely be existing.
38 likesGotta love Detective Sargent Jim Smythš
24 likes*mic drop *
17 likesHonestly, that was the best part for me. Jim Smyth spent 15-20 minutes just fucking laying into him for his own personal benefit. LOVED IT.
60 likesI know it isn't best practice, like at all, but having the cop just antagonise him and making him squirm was beautiful. That line about "I'm here for Tori" and "is that what you said to her before you killed her? I'm done?"
68 likesI really liked, "Hey, look at me....take it easy."
13 likes@That One Guy yeah me too, idk how prison is in Canada, but I hope the other inmates get some pieces of him.
17 likesMic drop like a boss
10 likesEpic
4 likes@jedi1706 fan Da fuq you do?
1 likeI bet all detectives wait for the chance they get to have a mic-drop moment like this lol
14 likesLove it! Cha-ching!
5 likesThe terrible, wicked wretch deserves to be alone with himself for a long, long time!
Best if the room was a microwave
4 likes@Basil The Rat That's so fucked up! But in unrelated news, if your screen name is Fawlty Towers reference then I LOVE it!! š
2 likesevery investigator does this i swear. even when the perp is stone cold and they gained virtually nothing from the interrogation. they practiced it in the mirror too many times to not say it lol
4 likes@Basil The Rat I love it!!!!
0 likesRIP ENGLISH LANGUAGE
1 likeāHave you ever met a psychopath? I have....tonight.ā
5 likesIām Australia they are protected in the ābone yardā where they are placed with other child offenders and people needing protection or crown witnesses or dogs - people
11 likeswho dog on other people like crown
Witnesses... (thus āthe bone yardā ... ) my dad was with the Australian Federal Police for over 35 years and I remember at 14 he took me into meet the officers/friends at the new station he worked at and he showed me the station holding cells and I said
āDonāt they even give them a pillow? Or blanket?ā
It was just a bare steel bed - maybe there was a thin mattress I canāt recall totally. And I weird steel toilet with a sink at the top of the toilet cistern and no toilet seat.... I felt bad for people who had to face that back then but now watching these videos
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Unless people are actually innocent, and there have been MANY!
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Now I think they deserve worse. A hole in the floor to go to the toilet in or a bucket they have to empty and no mattress - def no pillow or blanket .... do you think these people give these little kids a pillow and blanket or care when they defecate and urinate themselves out of fear???? No they enjoy the childās abject absolute fear and terror.
Yes, itās sad when ENTIRELY innocent people go thru this, but unfortunately it happens- and they need to be recompensed and released ASAP with a public apology from the president. The last part will never happen, obviously though. Pfft
But scum like THIS deserve to be treated like animals given they chose to take the life of a baby- or anyone really. Adult, child, baby or even an animal. Cos people commit some heinous crimes against animals too.
But especially the murder and rape of ANY human. Particularly children and babies.
*in Australia- sorry my typos are due to new long nails I canāt handle lol š getting them OFF TODAY!
6 likesMikeās sigh of defeat after he left, made it even better
4 likesYou will now face your destiny
0 likeshe definitely slammed the door a little extra I noticed lol
0 likesThe verdict is 'life in prison without the possibility of parole for 25 years'...what exactly does that mean, is he eligible for parole after 25 years??
2 likesarbj this should be a death penalty or life in prison without parole
2 likes@enzito_sdf ššš
0 likes@Daniel Naranjo I'm not trying to be smart or ugly.......
0 likesBut why on God's green earth, is that funny.......AT ALL......????
@Artifact totally unrelated, just curious.........
0 likesBut, why that screen name......????
Just to troll, to get some kind of reaction, start conversations/arguments, or just to be disrespectful........?????
I'm not trying to start anything, genuinely curious.........
@Michelle Iturralde I want people to question the narrative. George Floyd died of a heart attack due to a fentanyl overdose. This is confirmed with his toxicology report by the coroner, but its not what the media tells us. It may be a touchy subject, but thats the point. The powers that be want us divided. This wasn't a stand up individual, this was a multi felon, child and wife beating (one of his felonies) drug using dreg of society who died because of his own actions in the middle of resisting arrest. But yet hes touted as a hero of the black community. Is this who they really want to represent them? People need to look behind the smoke and mirrors and realize that they dont want the races to ever get along, they could never control us nor quell an uprising if we united. Im glad you asked.
15 likesSo before you write me off as racist, just know that Im able actually recognize there are MANY black men and women who contribute significantly more to society and have a much greater sense of character than this man. I dont defend the actions of the police officer at all, but atleast he wasn't involved in the death of an actually upstanding black citizen.
5 likes@Artifact I can't write you off as a racist, because I honestly haven't heard you say anything racist. Unpopular opinion, yes.....but not racist. I'm actually able to see both sides.....
6 likesHad this case been the first case of overkill.....
Id probably be able to say I completely understand & agree with you. However, it's not. If you're not willing to admit that, then we probably can't/ won't be able to have a civil adult conversation.
I agree that the powers that be would love to cause division. However I also think it is up to us, not to allow it. If that is going to happen then we have to be fair & constantly look at both sides & hear each other out.
We're going to have to listen to hear & not just to reply & defend our own positions. If that can't be done.... than one really doesn't want to help not cause more division. If you ask me, anyway.
I can definitely agree with you that he shouldn't be made to seem like some kind of hero or role model at all.
Then my fairness meter is screaming at me that neither should the officer who stayed on his neck over 9 minutes.
The same way we expected Mr. Floyd to take responsibility for his actions, we should expect the officer to, to.....
Right.....????
Do you agree that he wasn't following proper protocol as a police officer......???? The one who we have to hold to a slightly higher standard because he after all IS the professional in this situation.
Also if Mr. Floyds past is going to be brought into this situation, is it not fair that we then look into the past of the officer.....???? Does he have any other infractions as an officer....???? Is this the first time he's had an incident where a suspect ended up dead....????
I'm also interested to know if you believe in our Justice system....?????
@Michelle Iturralde I agree with you 110%, It's refreshing to be speaking with a rational person for once. Chauvin, the police officer, was completely out of line. Whether or not he deserves prison time, well thats not up to anyone but the court process, but if I had to guess, the fact the cause of death was an overdose is probably going to make it unlikely he does much time if any. You're also right that the guy had a history of misusing his power and I think he shouldve been kicked off the force long ago. He has just as much of a flawed character if not more. I also think the other officers around him should get more than a slap on the wrist, because if they don't hold eachother accountable nobody will. I wouldn't call the other cops around chauvin murderers though, thats a huge stretch. Most of the complaints against Chauvin were actually from other officers though.
3 likesAs far as believing in our justice system, my only belief is that you'd better have some money if you're going to deal with the courts. The only thing that tips the scales of justice in this country is money. Its wrong, but its been that way for a long time and you would have to ask a law student who's much more intelligent than I about how that could ever be changed. As for our police, as much as I dislike them personally, they're simply a necessary evil, all we can do is keep weeding the bad ones out and taking instances of misconduct way more seriously. There is a department responsible for "policing the police" within every cities police force called internal affairs. I think rather than cutting all of the funding for police, a larger portion should go to that department.
As long as poor black neighborhoods have high violent crime and drug statistics, unfortunately they will continue to be more heavily policed than peaceful suburbs. These communities need to solve their crime problems if they want to deal with the police less. We should also be teaching our youth how to handle police interactions because not following their orders is most likely going to cost you your life regardless of your race or whether its right or wrong. You gotta deal with it in court, not on the street in the moment. Let the cop make mistakes and bring it up in court, as soon as you resist or reach for your pockets or whatever, youre giving the cop all the excuses in the world.
@Artifact everything you said was right on point and I couldn't agree more.
4 likesIt's not hard being a nice, decent, fair human being.......
I'm not sure what the hell is going on with people & this world now a days....it's gone crazy!
Also the āI think youāre a cold-blooded killerā line. Bone chilling dialogue you would think was written for a movie
0 likesDefinitely gave me the impression that was not the first time heās used that line in this room and thatās pretty fucking sad
0 likesToo bad liberals let people like this out non stop
2 likes@CJ Ryan I wish paul bernardos interrogation was for public viewing. That would be 1 insane & difficult ride.
1 like@PixelLightShow no they don't, especially high profile crime. He will be placed in protective custody for 23 hours a day and allowed 1 hour of exercise a day alone under the supervision of a guard. All for his safety.
0 likes@arbj He's eligible to apply for parole after 25 years. There will be a parole hearing, psychological analysis, acceptance of his guilt, risk to community etc. He may never be released, and if released would be able to be hauled back to prison if any parole terms are violated, or other crimes committed.
0 likes@Michelle Iturralde Because they are killed in prison.
0 likesLol as if talking to the police would get him a better room to spend the rest of his life in? Lol the whole psycho mess they play on people is really over the top. Im amazed that anyone actually falls for it but they do all the time.....
1 likeDude... spoilers alert
0 likes@John Doe ah yes Nikola Tesla the world renowned poet
1 likerest of his life? he only got 25 years...
0 likes@NUKE No he didnāt? He got life in prison
0 likes@Artifact your opinion is your opinion. Let's say that he did die how you say he died. Why restrain a person in medical distress? Why take him out of the car and not transport him to the hospital? Why send more officers instead of paramedics?
1 likeThe narrative had already been preset because he was the person he was and his life couldn't be saved because he was who he was and the bridges he had burned with the police officers on the scene. If he had been treated correctly he'd been given the drug that counteracts fentanyl poisoning and gone on to jail but their were alternative circumstances that were perpetuated by the officers on scene. You can't be judge, jury and executioner without consequences you'd be killing people all day. When would your day of reckoning come about? For the officers on scene its coming too soon for them to comprehend. The system is there for a reason and when you make yourself more than your pay grade you have to pay for it. Letting someone commit a crime while you just stand there letting it happen and you know better is the same as when they convict someone of murder if they're sitting in the getaway car it's the same thing. You have your own mind and if someone is dieing in your presence as an officer you have an obligation; a sworn duty to prevent that from happening.
And on you're he's a criminal note, everyone has made mistakes and in no conviction that this man has had is the equivalent to the death sentence that he was given that day. Injustice committed by anyone isn't right.
Put yourself in his shoes; I know you can't because you think your a human step above him, but in all terms of it if you've offended someone this could've just as well been you and that's just the truth.
I'm so scared and sad, but sticking in because of comments like this.
0 likes@Artifact the truth hurts huh. Coward?!!? Question marks because I don't even if you'd be considered viable to put in a category.
0 likes@Lynkyn 33 I think he meant 54:55
0 likesDetective Sgt Jim Smyth interviewed Russell Williams.
0 likesMovie exit of doom
0 likesFacts so chilling
0 likesrest of his life is probably a few days. people who do shit like that to children donāt last long. children and animals. and once prisoners get wind of that, thatās it
2 likes@Single Dad he has not faired well and has had to pay prisoners for protection.
0 likes@Daniel Naranjo Unless they get put in solitary for their own protectionā¦ but honestly, Iād rather get shanked than spend a lifetime in the hole so I hope he gets solitary.
0 likesDeath penalty should be
0 likesIndeed, what a exit line. That cop is spending his life in these kind of rooms!
0 likesI heard the mic drop
0 likesI want a husband like that.
0 likesIm sure he is spent once at home....but i'd take care of him anyhow. ā¤
Forgot about...
0 likesMichael says "We're done."
Jim Smyth "is that what you said to Torri before you killed her?"
Everything he says afterwards is straight out of a horror movie. A sad one....i never seen a Detective cut a suspect down like that...he gets straight to the point. ..but here he dug in and those words are going to play over and over in that coward's head.
Jim Smyth is a hero.
@Clarence Boddicker Couldnt say it better myself.
0 likes@arbj you framed that wrong
0 likes@Artifact nope that is not what the report said. Stop lying.
0 likes@Michael Menges desperate people will hang on to any shred of hope
0 likesI literally read this comment as he said that š¤£š¤£
0 likesIāve seen so many of these I recognized a detective from a different case. I think Iām addicted
2 likesthe constant pressure by the detective was for the first 20 mimutes is so baffling and amazing to watch what you would think wouldn't work, actually do somthing
0 likesAn innocent man would cause a rage being called a child murderer, let alone sit there for so long and do nothingā¦
11 likesI watched a movie on Netflix called 11 or 7 years. Never heard about Bernardo or Carla and their evil crimes. Movie had me shook.
1 likeJim Smyth deserves to have his name etched in history. This guy has done so many high profile cases and has pulled confessions out of so many dangerous people in insanely short time frames, all while dropping Hollywood-worthy one-liners.
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Imagine being his kid. You wouldnt be able to get away with shit! But seriously he is incredible at what he does
41 likesShould be a Netflix mini series adout this unit, like Manhunter.
21 likesName some other cases apart from Williams
2 likesThis guy isn't Jim Symth.
2 likesThey do use him as examples in criminal justice classes!
1 likeHe talked so much he made my stomach hurt lol
3 likesThe Canadian Chris Hansen
3 likes@SuperFeline1 Feline1 second guy the "bad cop" was
1 likelol he has an IMDb page
0 likes@SuperFeline1 Feline1 the second detective to enter the room is Smyth
1 likeThe story of how he personally found Tori Stafford's body based on nothing but a hunch is literally like something out of a TV show: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/christie-blatchford-a-sketch-and-a-hunch-led-jim-smyth-to-find-tori-staffords-body
1 likeDavid Walker :( that was a good show
0 likesHe's been approached multiple times with book, movie, documentary, and TV offers about his life and he always says no. He more or less says "I'm just doing my job"
4 likesDo Canadians not have the right to a lawyer in these situations or is this guy just stupid and allowing this expert to break him down and use all of his years of experience to get a confession?
2 likes@Rusti Fowler he probably asked for a Lawyer but in Canada the cops can keep asking questions it's up to the suspect to keep their mouth shut...
0 likesThe second policeman mentioning that the other suspect declined lawyering up was a HUGE mistake.
19 likesThat was cringe-worthy and he kept mentioning it. Yikes. No wonder Mike clammed up.
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I was thinking the same thing. Seems like you should never say the word lawyer during an interrogation after the rights are read.
5 likesI love the phrase both Det Christ and Det Jim Smyth used in the interrogation, "We are human, human made mistake. That's why pencil have eraser". Hmm, yeah, but the erasers doesn't always work. If you f up majorly, the erasers won't work and you'll end up in either solitary confinement or death penalty...
0 likesI feel like with a lot of these the perpetrators would deserve a bit of sympathy if they at least feel bad about what theyād done. But they usually are only concerned with their own futures
0 likesIf they really wanted him to give up info quick, they should have said something like "you give us the truth with evidence and we will let you be treated by doctors for your withdrawals" and then of course not treat him and allow him to go through the horrible nightmare that is withdrawals. they should give him a dose every 4 days so that he's constantly in a cycle of withdrawing LOL
0 likesThis man's ability to just talk non stop for hours is so fucking impressive
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Now you know how men feel around women haha
477 likes@huntakilla1234 I wonder how this interrogatorās wife feels now lol āhe talks more than I doā
248 likesHe should start a podcast lol. I'd love to listen to detective stories from this guy.
325 likes@huntakilla1234 ok boomer
242 likes@missmidnight 2018 called, they want their ''joke'' back.
180 likes@missmidnight have you ever been around a woman? It is literally true that there are differences between men and women and on average women talk non-stop a lot more.
60 likesJust imagine him at a BBQ
29 likes@Luffy D. Yami no ā¤ļø
85 likes@missmidnight i wholeheartedly agreed with you until the noā¤ļø, now i dont know what to feel
18 likes@qaiser ok
62 likesI was thinking that too. I couldn't go that long, I'd have probably left or broken into "Bad Cop" out of frustration. I'm so glad I'm not a police officer, I'd never get anywhere. š
13 likes@missmidnight no wonder you were so offended hahaha
15 likesIt probably takes the most paitience in the world to deal with it
3 likesIdk what youāre on about, but the guy that Iām dating can talk for HOURS with or without interruptions
49 likes@Username Checks Out lol same my bf is very loud and loves to talk
15 likesMichael is introverted, so they are torturing him.
7 likes@taratorcho69 statistically false
26 likes@Beaumont6 yeah... if its not true
7 likesThe only reason the suspect was quiet was because he was too quiet to interrupt
4 likesThis "man" isn't just any random man who was picked up from any street corner. In reality. He went to school for years to become specialized. 1 plus 1 equal 2. What is truly "impressive" are the attention span of youtibe viewers and how much we love what we love to watch.
6 likes@Lil Ant if u donāt like it then donāt look at my comments hun š¤·š»āāļø not that hard
10 likes@missmidnight You're just proving his point. LOL
22 likes@Zachary Teibel i do not care sweetie
21 likes@Harry Billings I can do whatever I want lol, yāall are not getting to me
22 likes@Harry Billings what did I need to use ālogic and factā for? š
13 likes@Harry Billings you want me to... prove why his comment was misogynist? are you for real?
24 likes@Sush Mag I would too , brilliant idea .
0 likes@huntakilla1234 ššššÆ
0 likes@Mausi Imlicht I was thinking the same
0 likesitās super ez, i do it to my husband all the time
1 like57 minutes
0 likesIām exhausted just listening to the interrogator! A gift of gab...articulate, smooth...
4 likes@Cee Smith not all women lol i thought what he said was funny and usually true. Not all women are crazy feminists who are offended by EVERYTHING :)
20 likes@Shana Powers you are right not all but a good majority. But thank you for seeing the sense of humor.
5 likes@Harry Billings well I mean its a stereotypical joke, the joke itself is a stereotype about women, so it's not mysoginistic more like overused.
11 likesMy teacher has it too
1 likeItās honestly a form of torture, And pretty impressive. Kudos to the guy!
4 likes@huntakilla1234 thatās a bit cringe love, innit.
5 likesyou should meet my wife lol
0 likes@missmidnight no youre a drone
0 likesWtf are y'all talking about. The video isn't even an hour long.
0 likesI could do that
0 likes@taratorcho69 You know studies actually show that men and women speak the same number of words per day on average, but that women use a more varied vocabulary. So maybe donāt talk about whatās āliterally trueā if you donāt know what youāre talking about.
32 likes@Username Checks Out my ex was exactly like that. truly could be in the middle of a story and not care if one person is listening LMAO
1 likeNo joke I had to fast forward it my brain couldnāt handle it, insane skill
1 likeIts a very rare collection of attributes.
3 likesThe primary ones are...
1. Above average grasp of logic
2. Great vocabulary and story telling
3. Extremely high social IQ
This guy is special.
@missmidnight LOL Nah, stop spreading sexist jokes. I knew it was a joke and scrolled but calling her misogynistic is fucking hilarious āsweetieā.
7 likes@missmidnight āokā
0 likesHe grew at a barber shop
0 likes@Beaumont6 lol
0 likesIf you think youāre impressed with him, get me an 8 ball and rewind the clock 15 years. It will blow your mind.
1 likepeople tell me its annoying tho...
0 likesMy Wife: hold my beer
1 likeRight? It's truly masterful, I could never
0 likesThe fact he could stay on topic of this crime instead of going off is the most impressive to me! I can talk for hours, but i can't stay on topic that long! It's really interesting to think if he possibly became a broken record and repeated things or if he was able to stay on topic, but also not be repetitive.
2 likesExcept this leaded to nothing.
1 likeI have the exact opposite power I can go days without talking
6 likesYou need to meet my wife.
0 likestaratorcho69 linguistics student here. Studies show men talk more than women in conversations, spending a larger amount of time speaking, statistically speaking. Sorry to shatter your sexist illusions. š¤·š»āāļø
11 likesA teenage Girl could do that in her sleep ...Impressive for a Dude yes lol .
0 likesAt first I thought this was not a good strategy, until I found myself coming unhinged hearing him talk nonstop šš«. Then I realized that someone like the defendant who is already in a heightened state would be completely overwhelmed. Great interrogator!
5 likes@huntakilla1234 your comment and the replies to it fucking prove that sexism is still such a big thing in society, itās been so normalised that your comment and many others arenāt even recognised as sexism
17 likesWhen he gets home he probably doesnāt say much.
2 likes@Carley Thompson Itās hard to listen to incoherent rambling.
0 likes@blook Itās a joke.
1 like@missmidnight hows your relationship with your father?
0 likesWe don't call him Cocaine Chris for nothing.
1 likeThats what my husband says about me lol
0 likesAnnoying
0 likesAnd he goes home and ignores his wife lol
1 like@Mausi Imlicht He goes home and chills on the porch
0 likesHeās like the Cliff Claven of detectives.
0 likesThis is what he trained for, this is his job!
0 likes@blook Can you explain how the comment is sexist? Firstly its a joke. Secondly, who said talking alot is a bad thing? Op's comment even calls the guys ability to talk alot impressive.
1 like@huntakilla1234 from my experience, men talk a lot more than women haha
5 likesI was thinking the same!! He spoke the whole time!
0 likes@missmidnight It's a statistical fact that women speak a few thousand more words a day then men, on average. Gender differences exist. Not unlike how men are physically stronger then women and women being more flexible than men.
2 likesDon't misuse the label "Misogynist" as an ad hominem attack when you simply can't handle facts and don't have rational argument.
@Username Checks Out An anecdote does not invalidate empirical research. You're using one example whereas across studies women speak an average of around 7000 words per day versus 5000 for men.
1 like@missmidnight "ur just misogynist" female moment
2 likes@huntakilla1234 is I on YB
0 likesTy hr
@missmidnight š
2 likes@Aemiom lol thats funny
1 like@huntakilla1234 literally be quiet lol. why must you bring misogyny into EVERYTHING.
3 likesI know it's to mentally exhaust the suspect but that detective was exhausting me too with his talking
2 likesOk?
0 likesSomeone had to count how many times this Canadian asked "ok"?
2 likesLegend has it he hasn't stopped talking till this day
1 likelol ....all the feminists freaking out over the comment about women doing this to men.... I bet whomever they're sitting with is getting one h3ll of an ear full of how angry the comment made them, while they just sit there thinking "omg, do you ever stop!?" lol getting pissy, all offended.... Heaven forbid you take a joke and a hard look at yourself... Most women do talk 10x what men do, it's just a harmless truth.
2 likes@huntakilla1234 As a woman I agree! Some do talk too much! And some really need to have a sense of humour.
3 likes@Josh Lubold Exactly! I broke before the criminal did. š
0 likes@Beaumont6 yes, it is sexist. There are a lot of different kind of people with different circumstances where talking isn't necessary. There are mute, deaf, and mentally scarred women, and just like everyone else, sometimes they talk, sometimes they don't. A stereotype+ you picking and choosing what facts are relevant just because of a joke, is sexist.
3 likes@John Smith statistics don't show that, buddy. Men and women talk about the same amount. Setting matters, and can make things vary slightly to favor one group over the other, but on average, men and women generally talk about the same amount.
5 likes@Guitar Guru .357 hahaha aināt that the truth. Nobody talks more than a someone who has been hittin the slopes! šāļøā·
1 likeOkay?
0 likesRight I was waiting for him to stop but he just kept going
0 likes@Sush Mag its a payed narrator he is in the desc he does uh what we say politics..... nothing like this channel
0 likesI thought the same thing. Heās a gold medal babbler.
1 likeHe almost got me to confess
2 likeshe did it in purpose
0 likes@Cee Smith just stop generalizing women then no one would say anything. Simple.
3 likes@LadyWeaselLou yep
0 likes@First Last cue the tiniest š»
0 likesYears of practice.... mastery
0 likes@Sush Mag omg yes! I would like to hear him tell interesting storyās, I feel like he would be a great storyteller! /positive
0 likes@huntakilla1234 Ok boomer
0 likes@taratorcho69 ok boomer
0 likesThis guy in female form would be absolutely terrifying. After a couple hours, Iād admit anything just to shut them up and get some relief.
0 likesMan: Talks nonstop for hours
2 likesMen: UGH, WOMEN, AMIRIGHT?!
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@WickMannnn Someone saying this one man talks a lot and men immediately complaining about all womenā¦yeah. Somehow women are a part of a convo where not one is in sight, but her noting the misogyny in even bringing women up is the REAL problem that crossed the line š
2 likes@huntakilla1234men are IMPRESSED by womenās ability to talk? Cuz she was giving a compliment to 1 man and you clearly chose to bash all women, that was not a compliment. š¤
2 likesYeah it's crazy how, if you didn't know what he did from the start of the video...he would seem like a normal guy just sitting there being cold and hungry. And you would have sympathy for him.
0 likesBut the fact that we know what he just did makes us look at him in a completely different way.
@huntakilla1234 you didn't like how outdated his joke format was so you responded with an outdated joke format
1 like@huntakilla1234 Now you know how normal people feel around incels haha
2 likesWhat happened to the āprovenā sales/ interrogation technique of staying SILENT and then they usually feel forced to break the silence?
1 like@missmidnight dude, there have been ACTUAL studies on who speaks more words on average, and women say a lot more than men do. Iām a chick, who does talk a lot, btw.
0 likes@Christy Hoehn thats exactly what I thought. It seems heās trying to fill in too many blanks. Someone else comes in and things start to move along. I admit someone constantly talking at you must have its place but it almost felt like he knows hes being recorded and tried far too hard
0 likesMust have an abundance of estrogen flowing through his veins to be able to talk so much.
0 likesCanada needs the death penalty, none of this parole bs. U take a life you should pay with your life
2 likesIām curious why itās so necessary to get a confession when the DNA evidence is irrefutable. Why not just get the DNA results then interrogate him?
0 likesHearing this guy mope about how theyāre treating him is frustrating
2 likesIs anyone else surprised that she got the same sentence as her? I feel like he definitely deserved a harsher consequence than she did
0 likeshe said his biggest fear is losing his life, imagine what that little girl felt :(
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@Olli Rolli have some empathy
29 likesOlli Rolli How can you even compare someone eating a fkn burger & a killing of a cow to a Child abuser torturing, abusing killing an innocent eight year old child. FFS
208 likesI feel so sad when I imagine that.. that poor little girl..
21 likesJust gotta say, I was scrolling while watching/listening and read this at 30:45ish, you have successfully accelerated my hair growth.
7 likes@ScamDetector I love all animals.I even tried to go vegetarian, but I love steak, lamb and burgers way too much. Donāt compare a cow to an eight year old girl ffs.
30 likes@flatP agreed!
2 likes@Aputsiaq Lennert judging by some other comments, itās the usual kind of crap of comparing the sexual abuse and murder of a young girl with the slaughtering of animals for food (and then saying that they are equivalent).
4 likesI know it's brutal but I always felt the punishment in these cases should mirror the crimes. Make HIM suffer exactly what that poor girl did.
14 likesa claw hammer.
1 likeI've never understood that, when they are so afraid of getting the death penalty or getting hit in prison. Psychopaths.
3 likesnow iām real curious what this Olli Rolli guy said
5 likes@Nene Levy same, can anyone tell us what this Olli Rolli guy said?
2 likesPositive Dee Irish no you donāt love animals you love ur taste š donāt lie
0 likes@Nene Levy and that's why cancel culture doesn't work...
0 likesFor real
0 likes@Drained w
0 likesIf I was him my biggest fear would be not losing my life...
0 likesItd be a biggest fear for me if id lose you too, if you were mine, lol
0 likesShe was struck multiple times. Awful. Not to mention everything else.
0 likesIts sick. Beyond it.
0 likes@Inga Kekare Jesus dude. The life of any human is infinitely more than animals. Plus good luck maintaining a functional society without any animal husbandry. Fix ur head
1 likeRather not any human, but most humans
0 likesalso not boiling lobsters would not affect our society it would just end cruelty human does not need live boiled lobsters meet to maintain healthy life aborigenus
0 likes@Inga Kekare That's a given.
0 likes@Glove by who?
0 likes@Monnie Holanda Someone has left a disgusting comment months ago and they either deleted it or it got removed. I donāt go torturing animals myself
0 likes25 years? A mere 25 years? For all that poor little girl went through?
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Minimum 25 years, and it's very unlikely he'd be granted parole.
0 likesI'm rewatching these and this man angers me more then anyone else on this channel he cried as she did when he murdered her disgusting.
3 likesHonestly I never understand why these people never demand a lawyer whenever they start getting interrogated. Like what good can come out of it for you if you do it without a lawyer, like there is absolutely no downsides in demanding a lawyer.
1 like"Get rid of your fucking security blanket" dude these two interrogators fuckin rule
2 likesThe part where heās saying āIāve witnessed far worse as a copā, and then ends up using the abduction & murder of a child as an example. Shows you that itās hard to even think of a crime worse than that.
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there are way worse crimes than that
18 likes@Inga Kekare itās a subjective matter, everyone has their own perception of whatās worse really. But to me crimes against children are of the worst imaginable.
350 likes@Inga Kekare Same concept
269 likes@Inga Kekare man, we are one fucked up species.
121 likes@Inga Kekare thats still the same thing just prolonged and monetary motive of the killing, but basically the same concept.
72 likesWell there is always genocide, but that's not something a Canadian police officer could claim to have dealt with.
27 likes@Inga Kekare Still a proper example of objective evil, and yes, it exists.
4 likestorturing the child would make it a lot worse I think and doing this to multiple children
6 likesOn the contrary I think he only used the example because it is similar to what this man has done. He is trying to pick something the suspect can relate to.
20 likesThanks dingus
1 likeBesides slowly torturing someone to death I can't think of anything worse than this
6 likes5 words for you... Jon Venables and Robert Thompson.
5 likesThe only thing I can think of worse than torturing and killing a child, is the preparators being children themselves.
Heās only saying it because heās trying to downplay it so the man will confess.
7 likes@donovan.romanski2007 Tf you mean, you cant just say same concept, its still different. Like a man killing someone points blank in 1 sec with a gun vs a man toturing a dude is not the same, still killing, not the same
4 likes@Inga Kekare comparing victims who have different, not even comparable stories isnt okay in the slightest, pls get help.
3 likes@Inga Kekare what are you trying to prove here?
2 likes@Blooper Dooper Reading is not your strongest side
1 like@Blooper Dooper their point is that far worse can be done to a child but morally it doesnt matter as any violation beyond sexual assault is equally as evil and both will be unforgivable.
1 likeThe only thing worse would be heading into human sex trafficking/slavery where multiple children are being.. I canāt even say the words.
1 like@Prince Amo so r**ping a small child isnāt a form of torture. When at med school Iāve saw case studies of childrenās bodies being absolutely destroyed by sexual assault. Even just once can cause death or permanently disability. We donāt know the specifics of Tory. But she was sexually tortured. There is no other word.
3 likesWar crimes are worse.
0 likes@Inga Kekare alright you won this round. my bad g.
1 like@Inga Kekare bad take
0 likes@Bryan well if you say there can't be worse crime and get only positive response while there ARE worse crimes it's called ignorance and in this case since alot of people agree to her comment it's called public ignorance
0 likes@Inga Kekare basically just torture. Which he did do to tori
0 likes@Yung Cris i never told anything that compromises it ..i just stated that he is not the very bottom of human evil there are people bit worse than him too that's all
0 likes@Inga Kekare yeah I guess thatās fair
0 likes@ o.p good point!
2 likesSide note: this thread is a little off the rails..
@The real messiah for real. like can we not think up hypothetical crimes that are worse than this? like why do that ffs
0 likes@Inga Kekare ok sure but life isn't about getting the most traumatic experiences. don't nullify the effects that shit has on people, all experiences affect people differently
0 likes@Inga Kekare when your example is child predation of any kind it kind of show that you're missing the point. Sexual crimes against children are the worst type of crime. You can add any amount of days or sickening scenarios to a crime and the second it happens to a child it immediately ups the disgusting ratio times ten. You're defending a child predator saying he's not the worst humanity has to offer, yeah there might be worse crimes but there's a road these people travel to get there and if he wasn't caught he likely would've went down that road. Just because OP didn't get more specific about the crimes doesn't mean they didn't make a good point that child crimes are the worst type of crime.
0 likes@J M make me im energetic vampire boost me feed me
0 likes@Inga Kekare exactly.....that's a crime with child in it. That's what autumn was saying znyncrime with a child is the worst for her.
0 likes@Autumn abducting and murdering TWO children! That's something that's worse!
0 likesevery time i get a notification for this thread my hope for humanity weakens and weakens. lmfao
3 likesThere are people out there who illegally download music.
0 likesHell is truly bottomless
0 likesI once heard this story where they strip men off their cloth and tie them up in forests, where wolves and all sort of wild animals start eating them alive. I also remember there was a part that said they'd tell you that your turn was next so the next night you can't sleep while listening to the person getting tortured knowing you are gonna be like that next night. Crazy mad.
0 likes"... and I'm having a good time." What a legend of an interrogator
1 likeThey shouldāve just had the lead detective berate him more like that for about an hour or two then go ahead and take him to an open population room with a sign around his neck saying what he did.
3 likesHavent finished watching this yet but i hope the woman was charged too... too many women involved in aiding pedophiles and luring the girls because they know they may feel safer with a woman & then try to act innocent. Disgusting and shameful for her
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Agree! She should be punished the same as him. She served her up to the monster. Sheās pure evil
0 likesThe cost is so high for some pervert to have about 30 seconds of pleasure. As most men can attest to, when something is sexually appealing or arousing, after climaxing that appeal fades almost instantly. It's no longer an overwhelming urge, and usually it's not even satisfying. For that an 8 year old lost their dignity and then life, and two people are spending the rest of their lives in jail. Family members on both sides have lost loved ones, and so many lives are ruined. When you take all this into account, crimes like this deserve capital punishment. The amount of destruction caused by the perpetrator can never be repaid. Although it's at least satisfying to know they will live in a concrete box and be tormented by other prisoners for the rest of their life.
3 likesThis detective is a legend. Heās been in three separate videos Iāve watched absolutely excelling at his job. What a guy.
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Any tips on other videos to watch with him?
24 likes@Jonas Andersson
71 likesIf you havenāt seen it, thereās this one done in a the same style as JCS. Jim Smyth, the ābad copā, is the detective. Fascinating how he works the guy.
https://youtu.be/NSkoGTrYiG0
Iām better
7 likesDefund the police!
12 likesWas he the same one who interrogated Russell Williams?
10 likes@Jonas Andersson I believe he interrogated Russell Williams. Fascinating to watch! Absolutely brilliant.
24 likes@Jennifer Free Yes! Thatās the first one I saw. The way he picked the guy apart was so impressive!
4 likes@Alan Hancock Defund the police!
8 likes@Jose Garcia and use the money to fund brain surgeons to restore your frontal lobe.
78 likesI HATED the detective soooo much. YUCK
1 likeImagine having him as a parent and stealing a cookie from the cookie jar.
6 likes@Angela O'Brien Why?
1 like@Alex F All he does is ramble and say mmmmkay? Mmmmmkay? Mmmmkay? He was highly ineffective and stupid.
0 likes@Angela O'Brien that was literally the point
23 likes@Alex F Total waste of time, money, and resources. He accomplished nothing. Peace out.
1 like@Jose Garcia troll.
18 likes@Angela O'Brien so you are saying that you are better at deciding at how good a detective is than Canadaās whole police force?
16 likes@Jose Garcia Like they did in mexico ?
2 likes@Angela O'Brien why?
0 likes@Angela O'Brien My thoughts exactly Angela, despite all the training , they tried good cop bad cop, or the wear him down technique. Rafferty could take a few vikoden, or happy pills and not give a flying fuck what this detective was saying.
2 likesI don't think a donut and tea are an effective tool to get he guy to spill his guts.
Sorry, all this training and expense resulted in zero, the guy didn't talk..
@Greg K. racist
2 likes@Jose Garcia K ?
1 like@plane gaper Iām sure you would do better
0 likesššš āwhat a guyā
1 like@Big L Hahaha, mightāve gone a touch overboard in my praise!
1 likeThat mom when u watch so many true crimes, you start recognizing the detectives )) Priceless
1 like@Jose Garcia Defund the police!
2 likes@Emily Sew it'd be one long conversation about morals in society with him contemplating on how long I should be grounded by how much of a threat level I was.
2 likes@Emily Sew lol š oh man
1 like@Just No "How delusional.. "
2 likesVery. Terrifyingly.
@Alex F No that was not the point. The point is to get the suspect to talk, which is pointless if you never even give him the opportunity. The detective is an idiot. He interrupted the suspect every time he started to talk.
2 likes@Just No Yep police did a great job standing between Tori Stafford & this monster
0 likes@Just No Lol no I don't have to, you're the person who pissed themselves over how crazy people are to dare criticize police when they're the only ones standing between monsters & us.
0 likesIf you're going to be that hysterically dramatic then you should have an answer for why they didn't stand between this monster & Tori.
Which other ones is he in?
0 likes@Anson Allseitz heās the detective who interviewed Russell Williams
1 like@Jjinks That one is just so over the top insane.
0 likes@Anson Allseitz sgt smyth has been involved in a lot of high profile cases.
0 likes@plane gaper what makes you think you have any idea what you're talking about? He could do a perfect job and not get the result he was looking for... Interrogation is not mind control. Some guys are just not going to say anything no matter what, especially after a lawyer tells them not to.
1 likePlus, the guy was found guilty, so if all you're basing your ignorant opinion on is the result, he did a perfect job.
@Angela O'Brien he was found guilty... Lol but yeah you obviously know more about interrogation than him.... š¤£ LMFAO
1 like@BĆønzĆ«aux BÅĆ«uxgrÄn no he didn't, guy refused you speak multiple times, and they explained why he was talking to fill the void. See this is what happens when you try to talk about things you're completely ignorant of, everyone thinks you sound silly.
1 likeAnd the guy was found guilty, it was open and shut before they got in there, but you didn't think of that did you? Naw, cuz you didn't think at all.
@BĆønzĆ«aux BÅĆ«uxgrÄn you guarantee that huh? And you base this on... Your opinion and nothing else? š¤£ LMFAO
0 likes@Jose Garcia Oh? Pray tell, what would happen in situations like this if these detectives, trained in criminal psychology, were defunded? You and your ilk would take their place? Such sheer idiocy.
0 likes@Angela O'Brien And the weeks of investigation leading to a child murderers capture is a total waste of time? Do you read every book by it's cover, without turning the first page? How ridiculous.
0 likesOk? Ok? Ok? Alright? Ok?
0 likesOk? Ok? Ok? Alright? Ok?
0 likesEvery....single...sentence....ends with "ok" or "alright". It makes my blood boil
0 likes@Jennifer Free i don't think that was him interviewing Russell was it? it was a younger detective
0 likes@Jennifer Free i don't think that was him interviewing Russell was it? it was a younger detective
0 likes@BĆønzĆ«aux BÅĆ«uxgrÄn I trust Canada's police force more than a bunch of clowns on the internet
0 likes@Alan Hancock JCS actually did a video himself on Russell Williams:
1 likehttps://youtu.be/jJZv3z7FOt0
@Luke Thank you for this!!!
0 likesā@Lunaria Akina-Haru
0 likes>"Defund the police"
>Has a Kagerou Imaizumi channel pic
>Has a playlist named "sadboi hours"
>Has a nightcore playlist
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@Sparing Pickle Defund the police!
0 likesThe GOAT
0 likes@Alan Hancock Hahhahahahaaa you are awesome !
0 likesI know this one and the one with Canada's #1 embarrassment The Colonel...which is the third with Jim Smyth ? I would appreciate it very much...Thanks from Alberta
0 likeslol I can't get over the detective telling him "You're not built for this shit" probably the most gangsta thing I've ever heard a cop say lmao
2 likesthe interviewer drove me nuts when he kept saying "okay". After every sentence! Geez~ you would think a professional interviewer doing this as much as he has would figure out that it's annoying and too repetitive and completely unnecessary. He also made the rookie mistake of having the perp sit by the door. NEVER let the perp get between you and an exit. That's police 101.
0 likesIf that guy was genuinely innocent, or trying to pretend his best to be, then he should have been more like āoh my god! What exactly happened? Thatās so not me!ā
1 likeWow the interrogator is actually talking soo much itās making my head spin and Iām not even the one being interrogated.
2 likesHuge respect for all good agents that spend hours in a closed room with a criminal putting aside their own emotions just for the sake of getting some closure to any victim's, broken hearted, families...
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I can't even imagine the patience involved, and what it takes to not take your work home with you at the end of the day.
54 likesNgl this sounds like a cool job, like i want to talk to and met fucked up people like this, i want to know what makes then tick and why or how you know.
15 likesTheGamingT-Rex right, itās super interesting.
5 likesI'm always amazed at how they do it. I sure as hell couldn't.
4 likes@Shmillbe Lol. While they can be interesting, I think a vast majority of interrogations with crazy people are really shallow.
8 likesActually Iād like to do this job too. I am kind of the guy youād say āemotionlessā for some reason these stuff donāt effect me like it effects most people. I think Iād be quite good but who knows. Homicide investigation is cool and interesting.
2 likes@Jonathan Someone has to do it and they pay him good money too I bet.
2 likes@Matheus Salabert na bro i love talking with people who are fucked up, like murderers and shit, like seeing what makes them tick ya know.
2 likesSince theyāre alone in a room even if there are guards outside arenāt these people risking their safety too. Like throughout the whole interrogation I was wondering what if he threw the tea at him or tried choking him with the blanket.
1 likeThey donāt do it for the victims they do it for the pay check lol
2 likesOmg so much respect. The ability to pretend to humanize these animals in order to understand them, the truth, and to try and prevent it. Heroes.
4 likesThe patience & control of not wanting to beat his head in is the most admirable
3 likes@J B š
1 like@Shario D.N. lats look for situations without reflection. Lat me ask you,where are you from.
0 likes@Shmillbe so you often talk To murderers ?
0 likes@Shmillbe there is not a play book to apply to all people it is pretty much a dissection
0 likesThat last line was brilliant! " enjoy the rest of your life.... this is the kind of room youre going to be spending it in"... i just cheered when he said that!
1 likeThe "Bad cops" I feel bad for. I couldn't imagine having a case like this.
0 likesI think that its really ironic how hard Mike is trying to seem like the victim
2 likesHis arrogance pisses me off so much the way that he thinks he can do what he did and face no consequences is baffling
3 likesJim Smith is the absolute bomb. Heās interrogated and got confessions out of all of Canadaās main nut jobs including Russel Williams. Itās an art form and heās truly an artist at his craft.
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That's what I was thinking!, I'm only a few minutes in he's absolutely amazing!
8 likesPerfectly said.
1 likeHeās good,l but he didnāt get a confession out of a few of the big ones, including Rafferty
3 likese l e n a nothing is 100% but heās successful most of the time, fortunately in this case they didnāt even really need a confession because there was overwhelming evidence and his crime partner was testifying against him.
1 likeBladezNShadez TX yeah, I agree. Iām just saying that the first post wasnāt quite accurate
0 likesBladezNShadez TX I disagree in that I think having a confession was important to that case, though, and they got lucky. Especially with Terri Lynnās testimony at his trial. She testified that she lied in her statements and he didnāt kill her...
0 likes@Megan The guy in the first few minutes, is not Jim Smyth...
1 likeOdl Dawg is he the one who comes in later .i was wondering who Jim Smith was
1 like@Rue Dadi yes, hes the "bad cop" in this, " stop hiding under your security blanket and be a man" hes the best ive ever seen, watch the Russell Williams intero.
2 likesBladezNShadez TX we still like to have confessions. There have been many cases where bizarre technicalities in forensics have resulted in reductions or acquittals for obviously guilty folks.
0 likesCJ Pink to be fair, he didnāt really get her to talk. They were still thinking Toriās family was guilty, but Terri-Lynne was pissed at Michael because sheād heard heād been out with other women while she was locked up. She kind of blew everyone away when she started talking.
1 likeAgain, not to take anything away from Jim Smyth. I love watching his interviews, heās great, certainly one of the best. Just trying to keep facts straight.
He sounded familiar so that's definitely why. The Russell Williams confession is a great one!
1 likeIt was odd when the detective said he needed to assess whether or not there was a risk that he would commit another crime like this. I was wondering how this guy would ever have a chance when he's clearly spending the rest of his life behind bars. But maybe that's not the case?
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@5:12 to @5:41 this is the answer to your question
1 likeThem not getting him food is absolutely hilarious šššš
8 likesI can't stop thinking about how much pain Sergeant Symth felt when he found Tori
1 likeHis pathetic fake victimhood and self-pity are truly sickening. How that detective didn't rip his head off I'll never know. I sincerely hope he gets his karma in jail once the other inmates hear about what he did.
0 likesit hurt so bad when the investigator said that she was gonna go have a party because her mom redecorated her room. he deserves everything that's coming to him and worse.
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That broke my heart
56 likesI donāt know why but that part is especially soul crushing.
38 likesAnd that all of this happened because she just wanted to see a puppy. So innocent and sweet. It's so heartbreaking that her life was violently cut short because of these monsters
71 likesYou know what they do to predators in prison!
7 likesYes I agree with you ,
1 likeHow could this woman allow this to happen? Why? He's evil. But she helps him to do this ? Just terrible
12 likes@Bob Bauer iām gonna assume he was promising her drugs of some kind. and i mean that in the most respectful way possible
5 likes@rainy tee.Your probably Right I guess , had to be something like that ! I suppose there are certain drugs that are so addictive and some addicts will do anything to get them , I am not speculating that's why but your thought certainly is one reason, there is no good reason but. Hard to think of any reason that any person would help someone doing that ! What a sick minded monster man ! Just wish she would have stopped him instead of helping to do that just a travesty.
5 likesand still there is a chance that this monster can be released after 25 years. I just recently became Canadian I live in toronto and I guess I should move to usa cause over there he would get life in prison WITHOUT possibility of parole
0 likesThose words hit me like a sledgehammer.
1 likeWe focus on stuff like her mom redecorating her room, because we're too afraid to think about the physical events from her point of view. You're not even four feet tall reading these Goosebump stories about mean giants. She was subjected to the worst possible harm in the most painful possible way under the most frightening circumstances possible.
0 likesI honestly don't think we should expect these guys to do more than maybe two of these kinds of cases in their career- and after the second one they should be able to retire with benefits. I realize what the detective was doing trying to minimize it and talk about it being mistake- repeating several times how he's not disgusted or angry with him, etc.- but I don't think it's ok to keep doing that to your mind. To have to keep seeing these things, studying them in detail, trying to work with these monsters- it's literally more than we ask of soldiers who see serious action if you think about it. God bless these men- I sincerely hope they are ok and they get out of this line of work in time. We should take care of them the same way we do our soldiers. Well- the same way we should treat our soldiers- unfortunately we fail them as well.
1 likeI have just started this video, but once I heard Ontario Canada I am already preparing myself for a ridiculous sentence under Canadian ālawā. I will watch the rest of the video and hope that I am I am wrong, but from what Iāve seen in Canada, Australia and British commonwealth countries I doubt justice will be served.
2 likesIf this happened to one of my daughters I wouldn't sleep until he was dead
3 likesI don't know how the detectives refrain from just beating him to death right there in that room. Just watching him portray himself s a poor little victim enrages me.
2 likesHeās sitting there in the corner with a blankie wrapped around him crying like something was done to him! Pathetic!
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Heās dope sick so he has chills and feels sick and his nose probably wonāt stop running.
33 likes@Jimbo Juice yeah sadly most pedos and child killers are separated from actual prisoners
81 likes@Ty The Great not when you do it on purpose and god knows what other monstrosities he has done for pleasure
135 likesHe is not traumatised he's just disgustingly pathetic
@Ty The Great he's not sad cause he killed the child he's sad because he got caught and can't prey on anymore children
161 likesAnd just wait till the boys in the penitentiary get ahold of him. That's too good of a fate for this pos
25 likes@skywriting33 was it stated that he had an opioid dependency?
8 likesHeās withdrawing bad on opiates. Prob heroine
6 likes@Ty The Great why r u sympathizing with him
40 likes@jose rios exactly like why is he sympathizing erhhim
19 likes@Jimbo Juice it is well know that as well as drugs, child trafficking is also run by cartels
12 likesHe's a coward.
5 likesIs this a Trump Tweet?
3 likesI donāt believe in the existence of hell, but man would it be great just for that monster.
7 likesI think its his reality collapsing. And his knowledge of whats going to happen to him for the rest of his life.
4 likesI notice this with our men who commit heinous crimes. I donāt want to mention their names because Iām sick of them getting attention but one American killer who tortured, raped and killed his two victims sat and cried to the detectives when he was caught and was whining it was his girlfriend who did it (the gf was actually an ex, no criminal record, was nowhere near the crime, but he gave her the victims clothes for some reason and he committed the crime with four other people so it was obvious it wasnāt the gf). Anyway he was crying like a baby. Days earlier he put two innocents through hell.
6 likes@Ty The Great wtf...
10 likes@mychannel302 Well if there is footage of that, would you mind sharing their name? I'd be interested to see that video.
2 likes@Special Agent Dusty Poncho thatās your romantic imagination of gangs. The reality is very different.
8 likes@Ty The Great ššššš
4 likes@Cheese Guy I say put em all together & let whatever happens happen! Iām usually a pretty compassionate empathetic person but when it comes to child killers,pedos I have no sympathy
3 likesNow he is a horrible person but is it at all surprising?
2 likes@Jimbo Juice bbtty
1 like@Lewhitey wow
1 like@4 Reckon'n wym wow?
2 likes@Kristen Glenn yeah, then they all band together and make up some sick excuse (church is the best example of these sick abduction and abuse rings)
2 likes@Lewhitey I believe they mean "wow, it's crazy that you can't see that Mike definitely has a drug problem."
0 likes@Ty The Great he didnāt kill anyone it was his gf tori
0 likes@Ty The Great i just want to know why you want to sympathetize for the murder/pedophile/rapist?
3 likesDuring the time, he was enjoying himself (raping) then the murder, yeah should he could've gotten traumatized by murder.
When he is at fault for his own though. So him being traumatized wouldn't stop him from doing it again.
And again.
Would you keep sympathetizing?
The correct thing is to sympathetize for the child who had the last moments of rape, and being butchered.
And she couldn't stop it.
But he could.
@Ty The Great no you should sympathetize to people who deserve it, not the ones who cause the trauma of others.
3 likes@Ty The Great okay man sorry, but have a good life
0 likes@Ty The Great I'm surprised so many people interpreted your comment as "sympathy". Seemed like you were just trying to point out that someone who did something monstrous wouldn't necessarily be immune to the possible psychological repercussions of their own actions. I have no idea whether this was the case with the guy in question but it's not an implausible concept. Suppose it could be argued that your original comment seemed defensive but ultimately it just seemed like an explanation/acknowledgement to me, not a justification or an overly sympathetic response.
0 likes"crying"*
0 likes@Ty The Great what are you trying to say lol
0 likes@Ty The Great heās ashamed and embarrassed his dirty evil nasty secret is out not traumatized sir ..
0 likesHow frustrating for that interviewer. So glad he got put away. Poor little girl. Poor family.
1 likeWhenever they pass up the offer to get food in these interviews I'm always like "aw hell c'mon get that chow, a nice KFC feed or a Macmeal or something"... then I remember I haven't got the gutwrenching feeling I've killed some kid and my whole life's over, I guess that could interfere with your tendies
2 likesThe cop says "ok" and "alright" over 100 times. Asks and answers his own questions and ststements.
4 likesThere's a thing where psychiatrists/psychologists have to take a test where they have to be able to maintain composure if someone comes to them for professional help about pedophilic problems, that person went to them for professional help to stop these thoughts and I can only assume some interrogators need to have the same sort of composure and be trained to "be on their side" so they can draw as much from them as possible. Still crazy though, could've been avoided completely by going to a professional.
0 likesThat all happened because the sweet little angel went back to get her motherās butterfly earrings probably cause they meant something to her mother and she cared for that... my heart just canāt š Rest In Peace little angel
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Heart breaking.
31 likesI really hope the mother is well and doesnt blame herself due to her daughter getting her mothers earrings...
54 likesAlyMetz No, not a disgusting man. Youāre being too kind. A monster in the first degree. May his nights in a cell play out what he did to that child before killing her.
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1 likeyes, true, but he was determined. If not her, then another.
8 likesYour reply has brought tears to my eyes
9 likesMy heart broke the moment I saw that pretty little face of hers! I just can't wrap my head around it.
8 likesI am with you.
1 likeEdfreded Iām sorry for that , but i just couldnāt forget this information, because my dad always warns me about these stuff.
2 likesJara thatās very true , he wouldāve done what he had done no matter what and through everything and by all means , and it couldāve been any innocent young girl , just what an unfortunate situation for such an innocent act , so simple and caring thing to do to get her momās earrings, such a misfortune!
3 likes@P-Tech Yeah, poor women, I hope her teachers dont feel responsible either, I'm a teacher and I know I'd blame myself if something happened to one of my students just outside of my school, christ I feel sick just thinking about it.
3 likesI'll bet her mom thinks about that too.
2 likesGodless planet. It's heart wrenching.
2 likes:(
1 like@Alvaro aka Tico Like the detective said, hopefully his cell mate will make googly eyes with him and play the same sort of games he played. He'll probably not be put in general population though.
0 likesLord Nuetral the point was they said āit happened because she went back to get the earringsā when it isnāt anyoneās fault besides the people that decide to kill
2 likesI canāt imagine how the mother feelsš
0 likesgod i love a good interrogator. hats off to this guy
0 likesCanadian detective uses the word āokā with precision and absolute perfection 972 times
0 likesIt says in the Bible that The Unforgivable Sin done by those who hurt children. I truly respect this investigator for keeping so composed. I wouldnāt have been able to. These predators should be drawn and quartered.
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Historically they have been...
0 likes"get rid of your fucking security blanket" gets me every time
3 likes"it was nice meeting you mikey, enjoy the rest of your life"
1933 likesthe passive aggressiveness and sass of that detective omg
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The good cop version of that detective: https://youtu.be/lj7QRP37Wn0
2 likes@No Nope The detective in that video is also the "bad cop" in this one. Jim Smyth
5 likes@Meziskari yeah that's what he said :P
2 likesI have to say, the interrogator rambling really does work. it was driving me crazy the whole time.
0 likesI thank God we have a system in place that keeps people like this from running rampant. Well, at least fro the most part. I think we would be better off without places like Epstineās island, but at least the system gets it right most of the time. I remember when I was in Afghanistan back in 2013 some of the interpreters would talk about chi boys and what happens to kids when their father dies. Donāt ever take our system for granted.
0 likesJust curious: is it legal for them to promise food and then not bring it? Wouldnāt that be considered CUP? Iām hoping to become a police officer one day and then hopefully a detective eventually so thatās my interest in knowing.
0 likesEvery time the detective said "okay?" "all right?" I cringed.
1 likeI hope that fucking monster rots in prison. I feel sick thinking about everything that 8 year old girl had to endure and what her family must be going through
I hate how this man is ātoo sick to talkĀ ā since āa lot has happened todayā yet he can easily sexually assault a young girl and kill her. This guy deserves everything coming for him.
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As a member of the Woodstock community I fully agree.
17 likesItās amazing that such a weak man could commit such an evil crime.
36 likesThis is coming for him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knkYoT_11OY
3 likes@Michael McQueeferton because he is so weak, he picked an even weaker target. Cruel, very cruel man.
57 likes@Michael McQueeferton This is exactly what weak people do.
21 likesHe's sick coz he knows what's gonna happen to him (or not) not about thot poor young girl !
3 likesI read before that most prisoners can't stand child predators, so hopefully they give him what he deserves. Which makes sense... everyone has a code, even criminals, and doing anything involving a child is far beyond the pale for almost every person in the world.
26 likesMonster not man
3 likes@ScifMilch monster not man
2 likesTechnically the girl killed the child but yeah he did rape her so......yeah I totally agree with you. Apparently later evidence showed she was more involved in the crime then she admitted to. Big yikes.
3 likesyes he does
0 likesnot a young girl. a child.
3 likesDidn't Terri kill her
0 likesBesides an 8 y/o girl
0 likes@Michael McQueeferton literally
0 likesYeah it's fucked up.
0 likesSip Tea
Life is weird.
I would like to here what psychologist say about him
0 likesTo bad heās in Canada where the justice system will coddle him and try to rehabilitate him. Send him to the US so he can get his true just desserts
2 likesHe's sick cuz he's going thru opioid withdrawals, probly Oxycontin but it could be heroin...
1 like@Kevin Baxley someone's never been to Canadian prison. Also in the US most prisons are privatized. No lie my buddy had an Xbox in his cell when he was spending time for robbery.
0 likes@Owen Watkins meanwhile in Canada he only got 25 years š¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļø meaning he will most probably walk the streets again and be able to enjoy his last years outside where he absolutely doesnāt deserve to be IMO
2 likesThis guy is the reason we invented executions
1 likeHeāll get whats coming for him in prison, they donāt take too kindly to child killers
1 likeCan anyone explain to me why the suspects in these interrogation videos from JCS & other true crime channels like EWU don't immediately lawyer up? I know that a lot of times, the suspects aren't necessarily arrested before questioning - and that police use subtler techniques to question said suspects in order to get answers. But I don't understand how these criminals don't request counsel straight away (especially given the fact that these people already know they're themselves guilty). Is it arrogance and narcissism? A mix or variation of something similar? It boggles my mind that anyone would be that stupid and over the years of watching several forms of true crime media, I still can't work it out!
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I honestly think part of it is that sitting in a jail cell is incredibly boring. The detective is somebody to talk to. Also, I think some of them are arrogant and think they can talk the cop out of suspecting them. Lawyering up counters peopleās instincts, but you have to do it.
1 likeJeff is the only one who actually did that, going through heroin withdrawals. But thatās why heās a free man :)
0 likesThe way the second detective just threw that photo right infront of his face made me laugh. Sometimes, I want to do that kind of thing infront of lying creatures from work. š
0 likesWhat a set of mind this interrogator has. He keeps talking , talking , talking back and forth, leaving no chance to the suspect TO THINK !!!
0 likesWhen he says to him : you haven't been mean to me, you have been nice to me is reversed psychology.
He s saying to him I'm nice to you , i don't want you no harm, you can trust me !!!
I grew up knowing this name... always being too young and too unaware to understand why I knew the name. Holy Shit is it wild to grow up and learn later in life why I know Tori and Mike's names
0 likesāi think youāre a funny man.ā
1964 likesāi think youāre a cold blooded killer.ā
omg i love this dude.
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"Is that what you said to Tori before you killed her?" BOOM
122 likes@Tom Sawyer š
18 likes@Tom Sawyer i will š
20 likes@Tom Sawyer Sounds like somebody's jealous..š¤
18 likesOh my goodness this threadš š š
2 likestime stamp?
1 like@Your Waifu 52:39 time stamp
6 likesBro I went "PPFFFFFT"
2 likesāDo you know what a psychopath is?ā
12 likesāNo Iāve never met oneā
āWell I did tonightā
@Dylanlac765N yikes
0 likesMan id never be able to be an investigator, im tearing up just from the details of the case. That poor child.
0 likesMy man why do you not make videos anymore. You are the gold standard in this field
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YouTube demonetized him after the 'What Pretending To Be Crazy Looks Like' blew up and whiny bitch advertisers complained that they didn't want their ads appearing in that kind of content. Why the hell it matters where your ads appear I'll never know.
4 likesI admire this detective. Not just for his patiences and skill. But also his ability to NOT rip that piece of s$#t into pieces.
0 likes"So you and Bernardo can make googly eyes at each other or whatever you do." That killed me.
4 likesCanadian Police: Cereal bars, gives him tea with sugar, a donut, a blanket, doesn't want to offend him by calling him Mike.
5794 likesAmerican Police: Won't give Jeff his butterfinger.
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Also Canadian Police: you want a lawyer? Okay well we still have a right to keep questioning you. So why the fuck did you do it
376 likesthey're only doing their job
16 likes@Beats Gelato if you say you want to speak to a lawyer they have to let you immediately. he never said that. he already spoke to a lawyer, who likely said don't say anything.
108 likesYou have the right not to say anything just not the ability.
54 likesHAHAH POOR JEFF
29 likesThey went right to the hague for that enhanced interrogation. Denying a man his god-given right to a butterfinger. That's outright torture
67 likesYup. Canadians love their murderers, a life sentence is only 20 years.
46 likesMan, I love me some Jeff!
7 likesLong live Jeff a.k.a. my hero
19 likesThey did Jeff so wrong!
15 likestrue dat
1 like@JC is my name Jeff = legend
7 likesTry Egyptian police, he will be sitting on the chair upside down
22 likeseveryday i thank god tio live in Canada not usa
3 likes@dancingdendrites96 It's the same as the USA.. 25 years before eligible for parole.
4 likesBest comment award.
1 like@RepublicansDont RiotOrLoot I was talking about the butterfinger part š¤£
2 likesJeff scammed the suckers for like 3 cokes tho, gotta put some respect on my mans
19 likesIf you watch it completely he never had the intent to give him food
1 likeCanada is America..
2 likes@Hannah Nofziger how? Lmfaoo do u not see how our government goes about our situations?
0 likes@Hannah Nofziger who is Jeff ?
0 likes@Cassi Nicole it's from their Legend of Jeff video.
3 likes@Szn true, not a single Blacklivesmatter looter was send to prison
5 likesHe almost threw Jeffs last bit of coke away as well....
5 likesThey'll give a finger with butter on it š¤
1 likeJustice for jeff
2 likesxDDD
0 likesā@FortMinor You know the U.S. isn't great either, right? And probably a lot of other countries, I just don't hear as many cases, outside of some of the infamous ones like those two kids in the James Bulger case. The police constantly have to hide their identities to protect them from public execution, as in the public literally trying to kill them. Their original sentence was 15 years I believe (I don't remember if it was lengthened or shortened afterwards), and even though both were 10 at the time, that's still incredibly short for what they did to a 2 year old, and how horrific it was. It was at least on the same level as this guy though, if not worse
3 likesEdit: missed a word in a sentence
@stormy skies ahead šš©šŖ
0 likesHe got life in prison with a chance of getting out after 25 years. That is the harshest sentence here and virtually he has no possibility of getting out.
2 likestop tier comment
0 likesPoor Jeff š
0 likesAaah yes, Jeff. Good 'ol Jeff.
0 likes@dancingdendrites96 25, but you're point still stands
0 likes@Š¼ŠøŃŃ Š¼ŠøŃ Actually, you don't have to talk but they can keep going. We're not the same as the States.
0 likes@dancingdendrites96 25. That last 5 years makes all the difference.
0 likesLol
0 likes@42ayla I donāt understand why Canada does not have the death penalty.
1 likeWell, as explained, lower his guard and get a clear cut conviction.
2 likesWTF! No pillow?!
0 likesLmao š
0 likesQuilterbee Tarpley 25 years for 1st degree
0 likesQuilterbee Tarpley at the very minimum
0 likes@RepublicansDont RiotOrLoot Jeff knew how to handle an interrogation thatās for sure!
0 likesFound another top comment god ššš
0 likesLove this comment ā¤
1 likeCriminals in America just don't get the respect they deserve.
0 likespoor Jeff, maybe we should create a Butterfinger fund for the dude
1 like@Savian Perris HAHAHAHA Really?
0 likesYouāre obviously a JimCantāSwim fan
0 likes@dancingdendrites96 That's probably a minimum, same in the UK but many people who commit murder, especially those who kill children. Get considerably longer than 15-20 years. Difference being here is that unlike the US, there is almost always in theory the chance of parole.
0 likes@Mohamed Elsherif I also highly doubt they'd record the interpretation there.
0 likes@Avery Longley What they did to him was much worse. He was only 3 and they tortures him quite a bit first. š¢
0 likes@Beats Gelato he has a right to talk to a lawyer but not to have one in the room.
0 likes@Š¼ŠøŃŃ Š¼ŠøŃ in canada theyre allowed to question you regardless of if a lawyer is present or not. Theyre only required to provide you a phone to call one.
1 likeWhat gets me is imagining the conversation to lure that poor girl away. "You like puppies? I have a really cute one you can come see." She just wanted to see a puppy man. So sad and so sick
0 likesno punishment cruel enough exists for people like this.
3 likesThe investigator is incredibly good. I mean even if I was innocent I would confess
0 likesI thought this guy had already confessed for the first 15 mins, this interrogator is hilarious, sounds like a car salesman. Nice job, though, he made the sale šš»
0 likesPedophiles are always the biggest cry babies when they get caught, like what they have done isn't one of the worst crimes possible
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I had a family member who molested me and when my father confronted them they got on their knees crying that they were innocent. Theyāre pathetic.
949 likes@free time sorry to hear, I hope they got what they deserved and I hope you're doing well
461 likes@A. T. Thank you I appreciate it. I just wanted to back up your comment because it is 100% true.
314 likes@Radical Goose Thank you. I never pressed charges but our whole family knows what he did. Some believe me and some donāt but thereās nothing I can do about that. He will have to answer to god in the end and thatās what matters.
246 likesyeah theyre whimps
27 likes@J Mart If theyāre in prison usually the other prisoners will get to them.
117 likes@J Mart I thought that also but I did see a video about a man named Larry Lawton and he describes how they would ātake careā of other prisoners who molested children. He was in prison for jewel theft and wrote a book about his time in prison and Iām not so sure on how true that story is but I believe itās in the book he wrote and it is definitely on his channel on YouTube which is where I heard the story.
36 likes@J Mart https://youtu.be/zkGF_8SegT8 hereās the link if youāre interested. I went through and found it.
18 likesEdit: the time stamp where he starts talking about it is 14:21.
@first name that's good to know. but i'm guessing they all get attacked automatically then lol
3 likestheir self-confidence is so low the only people they can confront are children, actual adults are too scary for them.
37 likes@free time Sorry you had to deal with that, sweetie. I had a similiar thing happen, but my parents have been the molester's side the whole time because he "feels bad" and has been distraught about what he did 20 years ago.
52 likesJellyfish have more spine than pedophiles.
@Euagaha Phish Iām so sorry that theyāre on his side. That breaks my heart to hear and I hope you are doing well nowadays. He will get his one day.
20 likesYea absolutely...when my sister and I told on our step father, he did 1 week of crying, then when his crying wouldnāt suffice, he killed himself. His reasoning? āHe couldnāt handle the thought of what āinhumane and cruelā things were going to happen to him in prison.ā Un-fucking-real the way they think.
57 likesIts just disgusting
4 likes@Nicole Terrinoni He sounded like a particularly narcissistic individual. Couldn't handle what they'd do to him prison? Come on...nevermind what he did to you both. Just disgusting how they are.
32 likes@Mish375 S šÆ...I was too young to understand just how narcissistic he was until I years into therapy. We had moved across the country damn near just for my mom to get away from him, and he was still trying to convince her we were lying, never mind his journal she found. He would call the house over and over begging her to come back, by herself, so they could talk. Weāre truly convinced that had she went back, she would also have been killed. Their minds do not work right...I will never understand how they see things thru their eyes, or how they process what they see and think.
24 likes@Nicole Terrinoni Well they are born pure evil, I believe. They crave control and subjugation. I'm convinced that these types were born without that part of the brain that allows them to admit their wrongdoings. I'm glad you all got away from him.
10 likesPedophiles are weak and powerless people by and large, it's why they gravitate towards dominating children, it gives them the power they are incapable of otherwise experiencing. It's why they ALWAYS cry and crumble when they're met with justice or confrontation, cos the illusion of power is shattered the moment they're not with children and caught.
45 likes@Roy nail on the headšÆšÆšÆ
7 likesFor real they are always crying and trying to minimize their actions
7 likes@free time that is so sad that happened to you. But good on your father for believing you and confronting the sicko. That doesnt happen as often as it should, and the parents end up failing their own kids.
12 likesYeah i think punishment should be worse for pedos than murder
7 likes@Mish375 S no one is born evil , it's there environment what shape a person.
5 likes@Twilly Trix I disagree. Psychopaths are born with a defect in the brain that causes them to possess no empathy and other criminals have been born with birth defects as well (or perhaps were injured at some point). I think on most levels you have the genetics vs environment play out. But, in the case of a psychopath, they are born that way. (Had a friend who worked in the field and she clarified the differences between psychopaths and sociopaths to this degree)
11 likesthey just know their life is over lol
0 likes@arÄ« the samurai I thank god that he believed me because if he didnāt I donāt know what I wouldāve done. I feel so bad for people who have parents who donāt believe them or the parents that know whatās happened and donāt care. God bless the victims.
8 likesEdit: I fixed a grammatical error.
It feels good knowing that correctional officers assist in telling the inmates who the kiddy diddler is.
9 likes@free time That so awful that that happened to you. I hope the scumbag is in prison getting their just desserts. Stay strong.
2 likesI worked with a lady who registered sex offenders... Yep, big cry babies. Too bad we cant label them in prison and let nature take its course.
2 likes@MoD yep they need their own island. Like the lepers in the old days. Pedos can never ever ever ever be rehabilitated. Itās a mind thing not a body thing. They need their own place or dead. Or general population in prison and let ācell blockā justice take its course.
4 likesSeems like they do it to achieve some sense of control over another - they're so pathetic that they have to turn to doing one of the (if not the) greatest crimes against nature to feel at least somewhat significant. I don't think there has been a case of one of them being convicted where they haven't been physically doing anything in response but cry. Suicide usually follows, but not out of guilt - out of fear when the reality that even other criminals detest pedophiles confronts them. Granted, those convicts are usually isolated from the others, but it's still great to watch them feel how their victims felt for a while.
2 likesEdit: My Brain is essentially a fruit, so I can't spell.
I mean these people only have the gut to abuse a child for their ego they are usually pathetic outcasts as opposed to brave changenakers
2 likesDo yall think Michael Jackson did the things he was accused of?
0 likes@free time sorry for laughing at you profile pic
2 likes@Musashi Miyamoto You know this how?
0 likesfortnite4201 x Thanks for the stellar political commentary fortnite4201
0 likes@Hey itās Angelica Who doesn't? They get killed in prisons for a reason.
0 likes@Zeuna actually, people who post comments on YouTube are the lowest form of life in existence
5 likesIf only we would all treat these monsters like the Alaskan Avenger would
0 likes@Norwegian Cat does it make you feel good to be so cruel to someone for no fucking reason?
5 likes@JUSTiN XOMAN no offense, I can see why you think that, but that's scientifically not accurate. There are people who are "mentally still kids", I believe it's called regression, and it's absolutely nothing like pedophilia. Pedophilia is a paraphilia and regression can be a response to trauma. While I have no doubt that there are probably instances where pedophilia is caused by trauma, that doesn't make it excusable.
8 likes@Norwegian Cat in future for serious statements like that you should put "/j" (joke) or "/s" (sarcasm) as clarification on the end. Your joke was in poor taste but as an onlooker I can appreciate that this can inspire growth in future. Obviously, it's not my place to accept this apology, though. It's big of you to admit that you were wrong.
2 likes@JUSTiN XOMAN there's no excuse even kids know right from wrong
1 like@Dirty Space Communist I don't care what you think about it, I'm glad justice will take place. I hope he gets what he deserves tenfold in the prison system
4 likes@Norwegian Cat I accept. It was pretty hurtful but I can accept that you mightāve thought it was funny at the time. š
0 likes@J Mart thats why prisons keep pedos and child killers away from the other prisoners as they know that if they were around the others then they would be killed realy quickly as not even hardened criminals, drug dealers, gangsters ect. They wont let that slid
1 like@King G thats if the prisoners dont gut him like a fish. Not even hardened criminals, drug dealers ect can toloarate that kind of person
0 likes@free time I'm sorry for what happened to you, but how will you feel if he does it to another kid?
0 likes@Nathan Miller Iād feel terrible but that would require him to be around children which he isnāt anymore. My family wonāt take them around him and ever since he crashed his car he canāt leave the house and he relies on others to bring him what he needs. Heās an old bag and Iām glad heās not mobile and is almost nearly blind. He only has partial sight in his right eye and thatās slowly fading.
1 like@free time Fair enough, my friend. Again, I'm sorry for what happened to you. I wish the best to you and yours.
2 likes@Nathan Miller Thank you! Have a great day :)
1 like@free time sorry to hear that!
1 like@Average Student Thank you for your sympathy.
1 like@free time I think victims are stronger, i personally have faced abuse as a child so its personal
0 likes@Average Student Iām sorry that happened to you. I hope youāre doing better now.
0 likes@free time not trying to be rude but why did you not press charges?
0 likes@free time good. they deserve every last bit of it
0 likes@Dirty Space Communist bro but ur commenting rn wtfš
3 likesPedophiles are inherently coward
2 likes@Mish375 S but the thing is that not every psychopath is evil or a criminal, a lot have normal lives and jobs, the only difference between a psychopath and a normal person is that a psychopath does not have the same capability to feel empathy. This doesnāt mean that they will become criminals or monsters.
0 likesHis behavior was so pathetic.
2 likesAlways without fail. I feel nothing for those people, at least no empathy. Just rage.
0 likes@free time oh uh,you ok?
0 likesThis investigator is amazing, no wonder he ran the behavioural unit. I hate how pedos cry when they're caught, every time. Makes you look more pathetic.
0 likes"One of the worst crime possible"? Really?
0 likesLet me think... Genocide would be worse, history knows dozens of those. As well as the rest of Geneva convention. Bombing of civilian targets, US did it with atomic bombs in 45, but many armies have done it with conventional weaponry at some point. Russian and japanese armies did their share of raping and murdering civilians as they advanced, children included, noone was ever punished for that.
Terrorism would be next on the list. Many people died in 9.11, but I'd be more worried about state terrorism like one in Tiananmen Square. In Afghanistan or Israel civilian targets explode every year, and shootings in the US still happen.
Torture. Done by law enforcement by many nations right now. None of these can even closely compare to what people done in middle ages of course, like execution by impalement. Burning witches alive is pretty mild in comparison, but still much much worse than pedophilia.
History knows many instances when entire families have been killed, eaten, and their heads put on a spike... Sorry, but if you think the topic of this video is one of the worst crimes imaginable, it means you have pretty bad imagination.
@rlidwka go play politics elsewhere š
3 likes@A. T. if you think that's politics, you missed the point entirely
0 likes@rlidwka if you didn't see I said "one of" then you missed mine
2 likes@free time whether they believe you or not doesn't mean it didn't happen to you. That's their shit and they are making you do the work because facing reality would be "too hard". I believe you. The ones that do believe you are the real ones. Hold them close, stand with their support and forget the rest. Let them fall behind you like dust in the wind. Remember you are so much more than just those moments. You are loving and you are loved, your voice is needed in the world, you are brave even though sometimes I'm sure you don't want to be. Thank you for sharing here with us, and making it easier for others to share their experiences.
1 like@free time Sorry for dredging this comment back up so long after it was posted, I just wanted to commend you for your perseverance and to extend to you my sympathies. Hope life is well for you, friend.
0 likesIt is the worst
0 likes@free time God bless you.š
0 likesMy thoughts exactly!!!!! They rape, they kill and then they cry about it.. like wtf is going on in their heads..I don't get it!!!!
0 likes@rlidwka defending pedophiles is weird af!
0 likes@Ghost of Ronin stupidity to you, justice to me. Itās my beliefs.
0 likes@Ghost of Ronin he will be punished. Believe it or not. And thatās more than enough explanation so either move on or accept it. Sorry pal.
2 likes@Ghost of Ronin back at you.
0 likesIt is THE WORST.
0 likes@CellBlockNine no
0 likesIt's crazy watching interrogations, I'm glad they talked but they also are just throwing their rights out
0 likesMy question is how the hell do lawyers defend these type of people
1 like"Get rid of your fuckin security blanket" is always so satisfying to hear the detective say.
3 likesI get such a satisfaction from listening proffessionals working and talking to the criminals. I mean, just the sheer amount of experience in every word and move. It's just wow, amazing. Huge admiration towards everyone, who is working with humans psychology
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Repetition makes for a perfect investigator.
0 likes@Dre Locs Indeed
0 likesThis guy GENUINELY feels like heās the victim here. The level of delusion is astronomical.
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Sadly this is typical of sociopaths. I've seen it many times in my line of work.
57 likesDavid Gould this is how they manipulate the criminal to get what they want out of them when they know their luring or hiding something. Sometimes even innocent people are in this situation.
48 likesI don't think you understand the difference between psychopaths and socjopaths
23 likesDavid Gould I... you realize who the cop is talk to... right?? Like... were you paying attention??
50 likes@David Gould i dont think you understand anything
40 likesSeriously. He's feeling so sorry for himself.
29 likesBtw psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made, kind of a nature v nurture thing.
he had been coached well by his lawyer, he even said so. that's the first advice a lawyer will tell you is that you don't say anything and always maintain your innocence.
9 likesAStronomical lol
0 likes@David Gould ummmmm are you for real??? He is doing his job and he's doing it perfectly!
13 likes@Sarah Ribeiro Yea, well, except that none of it worked.
1 likeI was going to like this comment but I donāt want these to be 666 likes lol
0 likes26:41 the interrogator has to try real hard not to laugh out loud
0 likes@Madame Feast I think that he is a serious threat. I am glad that you thought the same thing I did.
2 likesJason Dwight oh there we are then, the interrogation didnāt work so itās the interrogatorās fault. The interrogators did their job perfectly itās just the criminal has the upper hand as heās got the knowledge. Nothing any interrogator can do about that other than try squeeze it out of them with no certainty that it will work.
0 likes@David Gould I agree he thought he was going to go in and torture the guy with words, but it never made him talk.
0 likesHe is a narc
0 likesI just realized that's detective Jim Smythe at the end. He's amazing. I'm wondering just how many MONSTERS he has in his jurisdiction?
0 likesJim Smyth is an absolute badass, and the work he does is incredible.
1 likehearing the words 'her name was' instead of 'her name is' at the beginning already tells you it's gonna be very sad.
1 likeThe detective is an absolute unit.
0 likes"This is not a parking ticket. This is reality."
15396 likesConclusion: parking tickets are not real.
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That actually might be true. I got a parking ticket about 10 years ago and never paid it. Still haven't heard anything. Not real.
835 likes@Plumsmuggler That warrant in Baker county with your name on it begs to differ.
693 likes@Rob well damn
227 likesSo I guess this bench warrant I got for unpaid parking tickets is fake too? Nice!.. Funny it kinda shredded like real paper..
185 likesTHIS IS NOT REALITY! NOT REALITY!!!
36 likesYou definitely passed your Logic class. šā¤ļø
47 likesBahahahahahajhaa love this comment!
12 likes@Plumsmuggler hmmmm you being up a valid point now that I think about it...I received a parking ticket about 11 years ago when I lived in AZ that I never paid. I've never heard anything about it since!
27 likesPaladium youāve been on the lam for 11 years just to avoid a parking ticket?!?
58 likescausation vs correlation
5 likesGlad you can somehow make a joke about this....
2 likes@Dan Allen I took it more as irony
4 likes@idk idc minecraft, now laugh
0 likesI knew it. They are merely friendly greeting cards like "hey I saw your car at this time and place and it was nice."
53 likesTell that to the people of Philadelphia
12 likesI knew it! I've been lied to!
4 likes@Plumsmuggler You should probably check if you have any warrants
7 likesCornell Benson Hahahah
0 likes@pepperwestwood ya see how that works lol? Those ppl are obviously in a different reality...
0 likes@idk idc thats why I said minecraft, now laugh, because people laughed.
0 likes@idk idc also, if tou don't know and you don't care, why are you angry lmao.
0 likes@Dan Allen He brings light in this world of darkness. Bless him.
7 likes@sheiks65 pretty sure if I had warrants the nice police officer man that gave me a speeding ticket a few months ago would have been more than happy to let me know about them.
12 likes@Plumsmuggler Not necessarily. They don't always randomly check. But if you get pulled over or have to talk with police, they will then.
7 likesLOL!
1 likeItās only 10:00 AM and Iāve already found the Post Of The Day š
you should be a programmer lmao :D
2 likes@Bouutique Ms Lmao goodbye
0 likesHow Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real?
3 likes@Rob lol dude
1 likeCorrect. Theyāre not real in the sense that no real damage is done. Itās a process crime. If the court forgives it and you walk away without paying, who loses anything? No one. I think thatās what the detective meant.
7 likesOnly in Canada. In the US... IT IS BEYOND REALITY!!!
1 likeI will use this video evidence next time I get a parking ticket.
9 likesFkn brilliant i knew those things are fake
1 likeSo everyone stop paying them !!!!
1 likeChip Reid based on the sentence structure, they do. If I say āThis is not black, itās whiteā, it is a comparison, and implies that one is not the other. So, if reality is not a parking ticket, and a parking ticket is not reality, then which is it?
1 likeHe wasnāt listing true statements that donāt have anything to do with each other, as in āThis object right here is a lamp. And this object over here is a pencil.ā He was making a juxtaposition. He shouldāve phrased it as - This isnāt some parking ticket on a slip of paper, this is an actual crime with real consequences.
Jasmine U. ššš
0 likes@Paladium
1 likeAgreed: past 5 years or so added a shit-ton of comedy assassins to YT's ranks.
I KNEW IT!!
1 like*reads YouTube comment, proceeds to shred all parking tickets - everyone
2 likeslol
0 likesš
0 likesIt's an analogy.
0 likes:D
0 likesCornell Benson ššš
0 likes@WonkaaVision I like the way you think
0 likes@WonkaaVision I do believe in the Matrix actually having done trips in my life and seeing behind the scenes. I also believe in the Oneness having seen it and been part of it
0 likesLove it that youre thinking outside of the box, wish more people did
Pay your tickets. I've seen enough true crime on here to know it will be that ticket that gets you pulled over, and then they'll find the body in the boot.
6 likesLol
0 likes@Paladium Lol dont get pulled over in AZ they might still have a warrant for you.
1 likeThat's the way I heard it
0 likesCornell Benson āThereās always got to be the one or a a certain type who post something like this. Getting technical on something that really has nothing to do with what the f this is about. The horrors this little girl had to endure and you lock onto the parking ticket comment? To show how smart you are? Need some attention? Well you got mine with this ignorant comment. If you were smart you would have known when this interrogator said it exactly what his point was. But this needs to be about you. What youāve brought up is the most important and Tori needs to take a back seat to the real issue. People not saying things exactly how they are supposed to and the incredibly smart and vigilante folks like yourself keep us sheep on the right track. š
1 like@pepperwestwood no the warrant is to get you to court to tell you it's a fake ticket and not to worry about. I'd go to court cause if you dont then you really will be in reality
1 like@Paladium statute of limitations expired
0 likesJaCk nickolstine hahahaha i live in philly so i loved this comment
0 likes@Plumsmuggler any update on the parking ticket
1 likeYou are sir genious.
0 likes@Dan Allen It is not ok to make jokes about parking tickets?
0 likesCheckmate Government.
2 likesWohooo
0 likes@Plumsmuggler im a dispatcher. you 100% have a bench warrant for failure to appear
3 likes@Softman Armstrong thats where you are wrong my friend. I actually went up to the cop shop a couple weeks ago and asked about it. They said I had nothing on my name. No outstanding fines. Disappeared!!!
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0 likesI totally agree and I wish the law aloud to turn over these freaks to the family no coffee and donuts ...no ham n cheeses in jail its called a stoning like the good old day's...stop wasting tax payers money to feed this worst of animal !!!
0 likesWe should ALL refuse to pay ALL tickets and call to extend our court dates and the system will be so backed up and we all just keep asking for extensions and extensions on payments. "Ive only got .35 cents to pay today tho your honor"
0 likesThatll straighten it up š¤·
That's how I treat them.
0 likesParking tickets are 100% made up
0 likesWell my bank account and I can tell you that in California they are most definitely real
0 likesShoulda told that to the cop who gave me a parking ticket when I took my sister to the beach
0 likespepperwestwood OPE SAME
0 likesTill you go to get your license plate stick renewed... or your drivers license... or try to buy a car under your name...
0 likesYou don't get it. If you die with parking ticket, you die in real life šÆ
2 likesOk, alright!?
0 likesWell the difference in my banc account everytime I had to pay one, is very real š
0 likesJoe Lycet would agree parking tickets are not real.
0 likes(British reference)
@Confuzed Penguin also, the fact you are driving much faster than the earth spins around underneath you at 22.000 mph compared to the speed they catch you. And standing still, parked on a spinning ball makes you not stationary thus the parking ticket is not valid, real.
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0 likesLmao when I get a parking ticket I'm referring to this as my evidence lol
0 likesHahaha good thing cause I think I havenāt paid one š
0 likesHaha that was my thought
0 likesRyan Hanselman you might want to Google scofflaw legislation in your state. You might be on a list somewhere...
0 likesLMAO š
0 likesEveryone with unpaid parking tickets, I knew a guy who spent 2 weeks in jail because of a single unpaid ticket from years back. Might wanna get those tickets taken care of before they come back to bite you
3 likesIn the concept of being a crime, which is legally defined as requiring a victim or injured party (where I live), parking tickets are, in fact, not real no
0 likes@pepperwestwood real chargeā real crime, when the police are now simply tax collectors with weapons
0 likesThis is a fair assessment
0 likesWhy did I just have to pay one recently lol
0 likesThis comment is actually brilliant šš
0 likesAh how odd. Just paid one
0 likesWell a policeman said it
0 likes@Plumsmuggler oh boy, herr in my cpuntry they do that on pourpose then send you a bill for thousans of dollars of inflation and interest hahaha , better pay that
0 likesThis opens up a lot of possibilities. š¤
0 likesThis opens up a lot of possibilities. š¤
0 likesI needed this laugh after such a dark episode of JCS
0 likesparking isnt real. it was invented by the police industry to sell more parking tickets.
1 likeFacts are facts.
0 likesThanks i needed that
0 likesPrivate companies issue parking tickets which have zero legal force. You can safely ignore them forever and there's nothing they can do about it.
0 likes@JaCk nickolstine Exactly missed one parking ticket car gets the boot immediately.
1 like@Rob just like the book you didn't return for the library
0 likes@Jasmine U. Ha, right?
0 likes@Rob However...a detective, on video says otherwise, tho.
0 likes@Plumsmuggler Bit you probably owe about $ half a million by now.
0 likesThis was pretty funnyšš¤£
0 likesThank you for making me feel better about this horrible interview :,)<3
0 likesI hope so. Got a speeding ticket the last time I was in Canada, and never paid it. š¤«
0 likes"They're silly little nothings!"
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0 likesSeriously tho, some parking tickets are from companies that arenāt the police so the tickets have no real meaning
0 likes@Rob thatād be so cool if they were actually from baker county lol
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0 likesYou'd be a fantastic attorney with that logic! I love it!
0 likesparking tickets, are bullshit.
0 likesDang, if he interrogated me Iād be a blubbering mess! Talks nonstop! Heās brilliant.
0 likesI absolutely love him walking out with the guy thinking he'll be back with food.
0 likesSomething about this bothers me greatly. Well...besides the whole pedo and murder part, that is.
0 likesThe accomplice's story doesn't make sense.
If a guy walks up to you and tells you to 'get a kid' from a nearby school for him...there is really just ONE option for what that could mean. She didn't seem mentally challenged or underdeveloped to the degree of not getting that, she used that as a tear jerker in her defense. So why exactly did she not understand right off the bat what exactly he was gonna do with the little girl BEFORE she brought her to him? No chance she didn't know what was going on. No chance she just suddenly had a ding-ding-ding moment as she saw the girl on his lap. And then what does she do? Smash her head in with a hammer 'out of mercy'. WTF.
She wanted to harm the girl, no doubt. She, just like SO many other women that get caught, use tears and a sob-story to get away with a slap on the wrist for serious crimes. She's no better than him and shouldn't get a lighter sentence. She doesn't deserve a shred of sympathy.
At 33:33, as the detective is detailing how the "process" will go, he should have insinuated that HIS findings will be part of the deciding factors in whether he gets back and/or how much his bail would be. The detective could've played up that cars by merging it with his original plan of actions being the "My role is to determine Raffertys threat level", by saying "if I have nothing to tell the judge, you'll must likely be denied bail" and I bet my bottom dollar THAT few been the thing that gets him talking as ANY chance to "escape" the "process" would be been too alluring to ignore
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But, in Canada I know their detectives are bound by higher ethics than in the states, our government is ALLOWED and encouraged to "lie" to us as they are well within their "rights" to do so... So, my idea might not work up there but, I wish he would've explored that
0 likesWhen the detective asked him what his biggest fear was and he said "losing my life" I wanted to reach through the screen and choke him. How dare he say that after he murdered an innocent little girl who had so many years to live and so many dreams to make come true.
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But Michael Rafferty really didn't kill her, it was his girlfriend, Terri-Lynne McClintic, who tortured Tori by bashing her ribs with a hammer, and then finished the job with a few hammer blows to the head.
41 likesShe admitted during the trial that Michael didn't kill Tori, and that she was the one who did it, which is why they both got the same sentence.
Terri for kidnapping, torture and murder, and Michael for rape.
It's infuriating that after what she did, the girlfriend got sent to a cushy minimal security "healing lodge" for Native American women...
Thankfully she's back to a "real" prison now, after much public outrage, and after Toriās father, Rodney Stafford, led a protest on Parliament Hill and opposition politicians hammered the government on the move in the House of Commons.
Scary how easily she had managed to fool those cops at the station, by placing all the blame on Michael.
She almost got away with it...
Both those monsters deserve to rot in a medieval dungeon...
@Marc Shelton He literally murdered her with his own hands. How hard to you have to allocate blame to think this is not his fault?
11 likes30:47 for those wondering
2 likes@Syno Nymous where exactly did he say it's not his fault
1 likeWell said, my blood boiled and he is utter disgrace to be human beingā¦Zero Toleranceā¦Culprits life is life and innocents life is nothingā¦Eliminate such Evil among usā¦I love to be violent and dangerous killer and nightmare for such evil creatures without any remorseā¦Life for Lifeā¦
0 likespeople are the problem,plain and simple.
0 likesAwe looksey here coppers? We have a possible female murderer here, she said she wanted to strangle him put her hands right through the screen and choke him out? She could be The Great Canadian Female Strangler here people right under our noses? ... Fact Check this shit out people?... Just kidding lol... Sister of the Zodiac... cool just came up with a new idea for movie....
0 likes@DaniH donāt insult the sympathetically and empathetically challenged like that!
0 likes@Syno Nymous his gf was involved with keeping the crime a secret. Not illegal but itās immoral.
0 likesDo not worry. He is gonna get a death punishment from the justice system and an even worse one from the lord
0 likesThe most sickening thing is that he's probably mimicking her
1 like@Randall Flagg nah he killed her
0 likes@Amanda Morgan nah she killed her
2 likes@Randall Flagg They are both equally guilty. Why are you defending this monster?
0 likes@Silver Maine Coons - Can you be a doll and show us where I defended this monster? Thanks in advance!
1 like@Poopy poop Poop - His girlfriend was the one who tortured and murdered little Tori, it was proven at the trial.
2 likesShe stomped her repeatedly with her shoes, hit her with a hammer, stuffed her in a plastic bag while she was still breathing and finally, bashed her head in with the hammer through the bag.
Combined with the fact that she's the one who kidnapped Tori in the first place, I'd say It's both illegal and immoral.
It made me wince when he said how she was killed. I have a 9 year old little girl and hearing stuff like this hurts my very being. I just wanna build a time machine so I can go back and help this poor little girl from ever having to go through that. It's just not fair that things like this happen. That's one of the huge reasons I left religion. No way is there a all good omnipotent god letting things like this happen. I am sorry if this offended you. It's not my intention what so ever to offend anyone. Your right to your set of beliefs is important. But I just can't believe that in any world view this would be ok to let happen. It hurts my heart to think she went through that. The lady that helps him should get the exact same punishment if you ask me.
1 like@Randall Flagg really? I didnāt know that. I just though she abducted her.
0 likes@Poopy poop Poop - Yeah, there were a bunch of twists and turns during the trial.
0 likesI wrote another post in this same thread, 4 days ago, where I detailed things a bit more.
It shouldn't be Tori's poor father's job to make sure that the woman who kidnapped and killer his daughter is kept in prison, but that's what's happening...
@Randall Flagg itās honestly sad how people can get out of the justice system sometimes
0 likes@Poopy poop Poop that is illegal.
0 likes@DaniH not for women and people with really good lawyers.
0 likesāNice meeting you Mikey. Hope you enjoy the rest of your life. Youāll be spending it in a room like this. šā
3 likesIm Proud to live in ontario wanting to be a detective, the detective and police officers are so good here!
1 likeAfter listening for hour this detective to talk non stop I am ready to confess.
3 likesHi! New Subscriber here! So? Is he ever gonna to confess or am I forcing myself to listen to endless lies? That poor 8 year old, precious beautiful baby girl, prayers to all that were effected by these monsters!!
0 likesImagine being the interrogatorās kid and trying to lie about what time you got home
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āWe all make mistakes, thatās why pencils have eraserā
302 likesMe: sweats nervously
I'd love to have a dad like that
29 likes@042_A_Rupam Sahu cause i would use his tactics against others lmaooo
8 likesCurious if that would either make them turn out incredibly honest, or an incredibly good liar.
74 likes@SpectralArchivist I'm guessing it would be dependent on their personalities
11 likes"I made you a tea with one sugar and a donut without glaze.
12 likes@All Things Entertaining suprised pikachu face
5 likesJust say you was petting a dog on the way home, his name is doggy boi.
17 likesBut that kid is Chris Hansen and he needs his dad to take a seat because he has a few questions to ask him. And theres no trying to get out of it because he has the transcripts.
3 likesOMG thats too good HAHA
0 likesYou get good at lying is what happens lol
1 likeI dunno. I kind of feel like iād get away with it. Heās not that good, just patient.
0 likes@Alyssa B Have you ever benefitted from telling a lie?
0 likesI love that you guys have your videos up again. Missed you š
3 likesAh the girl got life as well, I just googled. Good. She deserved it. How could a woman help do that to a little girl. Just as sick as the bloke. She knew what he was doing. That detective speech at the end was epic. šš
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Iām glad she got life. If it wasnāt for Terry Lynn, that little girl would still be alive.
3 likes@MarleyLove absolutely. Awful stuff. Thanks ššš
2 likes@Colspiracy
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I thought you meant at first that Tori deserved what happened to her. I am happy you meant the creature who lured her to Toriās death.
1 like@Ro k lol, glad you know that I'm not a sicko ! ššš»
1 likeJim Smith is a rock star. The best interrogation Iāve ever seen
1 likeāThatās why pencils have erasers. We all make mistakesā
3 likesTBH, of all the horrible people on JCS this guy really freaks me out the most. The juxtaposition of his cowardice and childlike behavior with the crime he committed is incredibly disturbing and makes you question the goodness of humanity.
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Absolutely... he's frightening. His behavior doesn't match his crime, that's enough to unnerve anyone. It's a well-known psychopath tactic designed to confuse you.
131 likesThereās 8 billion people on the planet.why do people always blame all humans for one persons fuck up?
71 likes@RED EYES how?
1 like@Melissa Hernandez-Smith Said he was under threat from other prisoners (he wasn't) and used the money she gave him to buy things at the prison gift shop for himself and his friends in prison.
28 likesI don't think it's juxtaposing at all. He committed that crime precisely because he's a coward.
43 likes@RED EYES he has friends??? after what he did. Lord that makes me angry.
34 likesItās adults that never mature that do these things. The horror is in their size and the things they put the kids through.. but the dad that drowned his kids as they are crying and asking him what heās doing.. thatās truly horrific.. and all because he wanted to start his life over..
20 likesHe grossed me out. Just the whole thought of what he did is disgusting. This was the video that freaked me out the most too.
16 likesMan you can go ahead and lose faith in humanity. This is just a video on the internet of ONE of these types of incidents. This stuff is always happening, we just arenāt given an hour long YouTube video on all of them. It sucks but itās true.
12 likesAs a human being I donāt claim him as one of us
11 likesHumanity isnt about good and bad, we are what we are. This is why mental health should be a bigger part of development education al lover the world, BUT IT ISNT. That is society as a whole being OK with this shit when it all comes down to it and THAT scares me more than this monster.
16 likes@D well said
1 like@George Rockwell I donāt think you know enough about people to deduce anything about humanity.
3 likes@GamerGuy760 Oh really? Then tell me what aspect of what I said, precisely, was wrong. Appeal to ignorance is not an argument.
2 likes@George Rockwell āThe reality is that being evil is EASY for creatures like us, and being good is a constant battle that we have to fight to maintain every day of our lives.ā
11 likesYou really believe that most people are constantly at odds with themselves fighting the urge to be evil to other people?
@GamerGuy760 Yep, and I believe that the reason most people donāt commit crimes is because theyāre scared of getting caught and punished, not because theyāre āgood peopleā. You want proof? Look at what happens whenever thereās a natural disaster or some other crisis that causes a suspension of law and order: people go crazy looting, burning, committing violence, etc. If people were basically good, we wouldnāt need extensive law enforcement apparatuses to keep people from gratifying all their sick desires without restraint.
5 likes@Wilabano De Niro 500,000 children go missing every year in the USA alone. The horrific nature we see in this p š©s is widespread.
4 likesAs a father, I keep a close eye and my kids informed.
Literally so creepy
2 likesIm only halfway in. TBH i really wish i didnt feel compelled to watch this. Really sinks my heart. The insanity rationale dwindles here the more he speaks. Its just purely selfish, entitled weasel.
5 likesLike Bernardo, he was fairly handsome enough to meet attractive adult women, excel in life. And be an alpha. I just dont get it.
@PolySciWhy? then don't watch the McLintock interrogation. She details all events.. I got 10mins in before feeling nauseous. Didn't continue.. š»
2 likesHe is one of the few people who have made my skin crawl. Wow, when that cop was up in his face it must have taken the utmost self-control to not wring his neck.
3 likes@The True Patriot YES! this!
2 likes@RED EYES That's a common tactic too.
1 likeChris Watts is the scariest for me. Real lizard that one
5 likesFrom a victim standpoint of a lesser but still awful crime (grooming) I can say with absolute certainty that he wasn't crying and shaking because he felt bad about what he did. He was crying and shaking because he felt bad that he got caught and was scared of facing the consequences of his disgusting actions. I hope he never gets out. Same with Terry.
7 likes7.9 billion *
1 like@George Rockwell I think you are explaining things about yourself, lol sorry
3 likeswhat goodness?
1 like@George Rockwell Crimes during a disaster go up, sure, but murder, while maybe rising a little, certainly doesn't become commonplace. Plus, the vast majority still aren't committing any crimes, even during disasters. (Most) humans have a natural aversion to killing others. This is actually a problem in militaries. That's why we have to train soldiers to immediately snap and shoot the second a target pops up, so it becomes an instinctual reaction rather than one you have to process. Of course this can be useful for other things too, like quick reactions, but it often leaves those not inherently able to cope with it well with PTSD.
4 likesAlso, if people were naturally evil, we wouldn't have created law enforcement to begin with.
@Nuturi I never said people had no choice but to be evil. However, people created police departments and governments with strong powers of enforcement because they recognized the tendency for humans to be self-serving, greedy, and apathetic to the suffering of others, and that this tendency needed to be checked if we were to have any degree of stability and order in human affairs. Of course, those governments themselves also needed to be restricted and monitored in various ways, since they were also run by human beings, and human beings love to exploit their power whenever possible once they gain it. Also, murder is just one dramatic example of humanityās depravity, so I donāt know why you focus on it so much in your response. Most people would in fact be willing to commit murder, of course, if they didnāt have to face consequences for the act and felt it necessary for their own prosperity/survival, as evidenced by states like Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany where most ordinary citizens complied unquestioningly with the governmentās murderous programs. But also, see the Milgram experiment, a scientific example of the evil human beings will happily commit if lightly requested to by an authority figure.
3 likesBossa Bassa if he really wants to lose it, thatās what social media is for.
1 likegenuinely makes me feel so gross. grown ass MAN acting like a sad uwu victim. heās so fragile and delicate, he could NEVER hurt a child!! š¢ š¢ let me play a song on the worldās smallest violin
6 likes@Paul i 100% agree!!! pessimism is EXHAUSTING. it prevents you from noticing the good in the world. and even if you do, you tend to write it off as the exception/selfish wishes. nature and nurture go a long way
1 likeYeah i agree. Its weird, most people of this kind i've seen have come across as just psychos, but this guy is so self pitying and child-like its just very strange.
2 likesHumanity isnāt goodā¦
1 like@Harry Best i agree; a lot of people seem to use this word incorrectly: indeed he didn't commit the crime to juxtapose it against cowardice behavior. This is merely a contrast.
1 likeThere is none good, only God. Thatās why we need Him to be our Lord.
1 likeAgreed. It freaked me out how he's as handsome as a movie star, but scarier than any monster from any horror movie.
1 like@Nikki J Heās not handsome. I guess beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.
2 likesno man or woman is good
0 likes@George Rockwell are you slow the majority of people are good it's a small percentage of people who arent
1 like@George Rockwell bro bad stories get coverage and good stories are hidden underneath. Thereās a lot of good acts that happen. Find them and list them out. Humanity is not one thing. It canāt be judged by its worst and best.
0 likes@George Rockwell dude your example of nazi Germany doesnāt hold up. There were numerous people who condemned the acts of the nazis even within the Wehrmacht. If you talk about the SS then youāre probably right. Also in the Experiment the subjects who shocked the people didnāt just pressed the buttons until reaching the highest voltage, they resisted and asked constantly questions. So clearly they did not do it because they liked it but because some guy with authority said so and promised nothing would happen to them.
0 likes@Jordan Fleming very well said. So true
0 likes@George Rockwell It's only certain types of people who act like that. For example, if there was some natural disaster in Denmark or Switzerland, you wouldn't expect to see a significant amount of looting or rioting would you?
0 likes@TangoAlphaRomeoDelta I donāt know what you mean by that. If youāre making some racial argument, shove off. Our upbringing, personality or background may influence our likelihood of acting on our evil desires, but those desires are still present in every single one of us. When you are angry with someone, or feel hatred for someone, you are murdering them in your heart, even if youāre too cowardly to carry out such an act. Human beings have a disturbing habit of twisting the truth and doing what we know to be wrong, because we want to glorify ourselves rather than serving others. Even when we serve others, we typically do it to boost our status or reputation. If you think youāre good, that proves you almost certainly arenāt.
0 likeshes so disgusting the way he said hes scared to loose his life after taking an innocent life is terrifying
1 like@George Rockwell āmost people would be willing to commit murder if they didnāt have to face consequences for the act and felt it necessary for their own prosperity/survivalā yeah, if in a situation where youāre under attack and you need to save your life. But thatās not evil.
0 likes@Paul I agree. You explained that well
0 likes@George Rockwell I just didnāt know murder only referred to illegal killing. No need to insult.
0 likesAnd you just know that he was only feeling bad for himself and scared for his own future, that is another horrible thing that this case highlights.
1 like@The True Patriot more of a sociopath
0 likesHumanity is not good. By God's grace most of us aren't monsters like these two. But a large number are. And the rest of us are evil to varying degrees. That's why Christ died on the cross... to rescue humanity from itself. This salvation will come by transforming us into something physically, tangibly, and spiritually better than we are.
0 likesShould of ended the interview with āoh and by the way, do you know what people do to people like you in prison?ā
2 likesAs satisfying as that closing tirade was to watch, I gotta say, the low key most satisfying part was when Rafferty thought he was getting food, and instead they bring in his accomplice for a 3 on 1 pile-up.
0 likesan absolute tip of the hat to the narrator. I couldn't force myself to narrate a story like this without feeling the need to throw up...
0 likesIt hurts my heart to know that we have to live in constant fear of predators like this; but that fact is made more bearable by the knowledge that men like these exist to protect us. Spectacular job by all involved.
2 likesThis guy is so disgusting to look at. I truly admire those detectives for not punching his face when he was sobbing
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When he shakes while drinking his coffee I nearly lost it. Fury is not the right word. Iām disgusted with him!!!
38 likesRight. Their composure is admirable.
9 likesI would have been fired as an officer for punching this guy sooooo harddd
13 likesSoooo harrdddd
6 likesI was hoping that the cameras would go out and then came back on with that turd past out in a pool of blood, and his sissy blanket tied tightly around his neck while the cop is just sitting there like nothing happened.
19 likes@Tony A In a perfect worldā¦
5 likesThe detectives know what will happen to him in prison
3 likesHe wouldn't have made the trip to the jail cell
1 likeMaybe I'm a sick individual, but my admiration would have been at its peak, if they had beat him till he was deaf, and had brain damage.
0 likesTotally agree.
0 likesMaybe because the detective is a Canadian.
0 likes@Lynn Arthur ppl
0 likes4:50 he is so meek and soft. This is the perfect example of the dangers that weak men pose. Weak men KNOW that theyāre weak and donāt want to feel that way so some of them find people weaker than them to dominate in order to soothe their damaged egos.
2 likesThere definitely seems to be a significant role played by pornography as well. Our world has, apparently, vast enclaves of perverse types of pornography (itās all perverse but there is definitely a gradient) which is the ultimate destination of most people who consume pornography. Like any other addict, the need to escalate to more and more perverse forms of filth to achieve the desired effect.
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You see what you want to see.
0 likes@Paul Brookfield what do you see? Are you the man with no biases?
0 likesIt must be so hard to sit in a room with a brutal killer and pretend to act nice.
0 likesWow I really miss JCS. @Youtube, your rules shut out great and informative content like this.
0 likesThe fact that these things happen in Canada of all places scares me
0 likes"Get rid of your F-ing security blanket and start being a man." I love that lead investigator - cuts RIGHT through the BS!
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Good cop, then bad cop - works nearly every time
7 likesThe fact that it was him who gave this bastard a blanket is gold.
20 likes@Etorei Sanotoha lol that's fucking great
4 likesChristopher Reynolds other way round people talk to the good cop who promises relieve of the pressure and attacks
1 likeI was just chuckling at how generic-looking and unhelpful the police composite sketch was when the photo of Mcclintic came on screen. She really does have a face that looks like an AI-generated picture.
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I was just saying, "they're not going to find anybody that looks like that generic drawing" then her face pops up Lol. She's as non-descript as they come.
0 likesMiss you JCS :( Please make a new channel.
2 likesI hope Tori was able to see this interrogation from heaven. I can't imagine the catharsis she would've felt. Rest in peace
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Catharsis? If heaven is real and it's peaceful why would an angel need to see this? It's like when ppl say ghosts haunt their killers. If these souls are at ultimate peace why would they need payback? It's weird that ppl believe in heaven but think angels need retribution.
0 likesI love the way the first interrogator is stealthily giving the other one a set of signs, reminders of what to include in the interview ;]
0 likesMe: why is this detective rambling?
3857 likesJCS: this detective is rambling because...
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0 likescausing the "innocent until proven guilty" clause to be a moot point.
"Do you know what a psycopath is Mike?" " I've never met one." "I met one tonight." jesus christ that detective obliterated that man.
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Especially, if he was one, he wouldn't care (like he doesn't as shown in the video), would he?
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4 likes@Andrew yeah yeah, cry about it š
3 likes@yourmmama sometime in the 50 minute mark
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0 likes"Jesus Christ" is not a curse word
0 likesThe death-penalty is often a difficult subject untill you hear something like this.
2 likesHang on, he mentioned his lawyer giving him advice? Why is he in an interrogation without one?
0 likesI truly struggle to understand how someone could ever do that to a child, they are just so innocent and precious!!
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0 likesgood lord life is so stress free when you don't have to get interrogated
2 likesit's so clear that the murderer only cares about himself. he only pipes up when he can make a snide remark about his OWN situation. completely selfish. absolute filth.
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What gets me the most was when he said he was afraid of losing his life when asked what his greatest fear was. Um, you just murdered an 8-year-old. The audacity.
74 likesI almost lol when he didnt 'go out of his way to get him takeout' much less any food. Psycho deserved some hunger pain
8 likesThatās how they are. Doesnāt care about the innocence he shattered or the life he took of the little girl only is concerned about what happens to him now
4 likesMakes sense
0 likesHe has an inflated sense of his own intellect and it was brilliant to see the detective shatter that illusion towards the end of the interview.
5 likes@Chance Magoo Yes and then some.
0 likesHa. I like how his attorney couldn't even keep his words straight when asking we he defended Rafferty.
0 likesBoth sentenced to life without the possibility of parole for 25 years? In the US, they would get life without the possibly of parole whatsoever at all, guaranteed to die in prison
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0 likes48:01 He's not doing a good job with the interrogation here, but it's good to hear him tell the guy all that.
0 likesi just cant wrap my head around the fact that there are really people that do this shit. how in the world do u end up like that? like wtf makes someone do this.. i just dont have a single idea
0 likesShe promised the little girl she would show her a puppy. My heart is broken. Some levels of depravity, I will never understand.
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It turned out after words that she was actually the one who murdered the girl with the hammer, the man raped the girl but the woman killed her.
123 likes@CJ Ryan wat really?
16 likes@CJ Ryan source?
10 likesI live in this province and when the case broke it broke my heart. Heās absolutely disgusting
27 likesWe canāt understand it because we have empathy. But people who lack it can be capable of these unthinkable things š.
31 likesWill Empath I know itās scary when you think there are people out there, more people than youād like to imagine that have pretty much no conscience
8 likesBladezNShadez TX yeah I used to be of the mindset that people like that donāt exist but thereās a lot of them. Itās genuinely scary.
9 likesMind-bending horror.
6 likeszempath do you mean like good people being led astray to help murderous people and getting themselves into trouble? Only god knows why that woman helped in all of this. Drugs most likely. Some people that help murderers are co dependent and extremely vulnerable and persuadable. I think they become so frightened / Brain washed by their abuser fearing harm that they would do anything even if they knew it was wrong because they were bred to be controlled and abused all their lives as young people.
3 likeszempath yeah you mean like state sponsored and politically motivated stuff?
1 likeThis is why parents need to teach kids to be wary of strangers. At 9 she was capable of learning it.
13 likesJeff K yes. and it seems there was no guardian to pick the girl up also.
4 likesSohaib Mahagri exactly or if your going to kill her atleast donāt torture her by raping her first, they can both go to hell god bless the young girls soul.
6 likesSad thing is even after being taught stranger danger, children will still want to see a puppy, some won't, but some will. Heck if someone said there was a puppy around the corner I'd wanna see it. It's sad someone can and chooses to abuse the trust of a child.
8 likesIt's a very common way to lure kids. I even know someone this happened to. Thankfully she was not killed by her abuser. They lure kids with the prospect of cute little pets all the time.
9 likes@Olivia apparently the chick who promised the girl to see a puppy, at 16 she microwaved her dog to death
7 likesI'd love to see her no-nonsense, totally not lenient prison sentence
0 likes@zempath omg theres so much ppl that walk this earth just like this omg
0 likes@CJ Ryan Oh my god, I wish I had never read that. Sickened me to my core. They are both equally horrendous.
4 likesi definitely have some kind of psychopathy or lack of empathy. Like when my close love ones die i can accept it and move om disgustingly quick. Im aware of my "sickness" and it really bothers me. I think a lot of people are probably capable of some fucked up shit but this kind of stuff is just unthinkable even for folk like me
5 likesUnbelievable levels of depravity....evil.
1 likethis statement really breaks every human's heart no matter how strong they are...
0 likes@Nevi People with no empathy are also great businessmen. Not all people devoid of empathy are killers. Probably because they pick up something in life that satisfies them before tasting murder.
4 likesTome4kkkk totally agree. Look at the financial crash of 2008. Those bankers stole everything from the poorest in society. I think one of them got away with 500 million even though he admitted he stole and robbed people and he escaped prison somehow. I canāt remember his name but the documentary is on Amazon and some German guy was one of only two people to be imprisoned cause the blame was all stacked onto him.
4 likesā@Nevi This kind of recession has literally led to loss of lives and irrecoverable destruction of countless lives. Think about it. Like I said - those people don't murder only because "it's not their thing" as they get stronger hardon from power and channeling money. Your friend capitalist cultist calls it "working smart, not hard." Or they don't like guns, or mess etc. But that's it.
4 likesTome4kkkk yep I agree with everything youāve said there. Itās not their thing to kill but they still lack the same as what a killer also lacks but use it in different areas. š
1 likeah yes that's the most depraved thing of the whole case you took away the right thing from this video bud
0 likes@Chipperson's Encyclopedia Emporium Well, lack of empathy doesn't automatically imply lack of morals. Probably like the interrogator said the guy watched hours and hours of child pornography until the fantasy wasn't enough for him anymore. We become what we do so steer yourself in the right direction and don't tempt yourself down dangerous paths.
2 likes@NLTops that's true! I appreciate that. Most people arent very sympathetic or even understanding. Like... I didn't do this to myself, ya know? I wasnt just one day like, ya know what?, i wish i had the emotional commitnment of General Palpatine. š i guess i was born this way. It fucked me up the day i realized it and like a true narcissist the first real emotional cry i had was for myself and my own struggles. Maybe youve saved me life. Ive never considered murder or anything sinister [hence my original comment] but ive decided to stop watching so much of these types of videos. I don't watch child porn ffs but like you said youve got to stay off dangerous paths and it would be fucking bonkers if in 20 years im sitting in an interigation room "Chipperson, i know you're not a monster. You watched to many crime videos! You became obsessed and you made a mistake" fuck that would be horrific
0 likes@Chipperson's Encyclopedia Emporium Don't feel bad about crying for your own sake. Most people have their first emotional cry over their own despair or grief. My first cry was out of loneliness because I never quite fit in as a young child.
2 likesIronically, the cause for that is that I have the exact opposite emotional type as you. I'm hyper-empathic. As a kid it resulted in me often poking through other kids faƧade because I could just feel so clearly how they really felt. But people don't like it when you don't play along with their act so it resulted in people avoiding me and even being very mean to me.
It can also get really exhausting to be confronted with other people's negative emotions so intensely all the time, so I really like my alone time. And because of it, I also appreciate hanging out with people with "low emotional output". Which is how I know that sociopaths/apaths can be really good people. Their morality is based on logic rather than emotion but it still has very clear intent.
I'm glad my small piece of wisdom (to not tempt fate going down dangerous roads even a little) has added to your perspective. I hope you have a long fulfilling life, and don't forget that however we categorize ourselves, every one of us has a complex multi-faceted personality. It's just that we tend to solidify our Ego (sense of self) rather than accepting we are dynamic. I'm not as empathic as I was as a kid. I had to strengthen and protect myself to some degree because I would be dead by now if I hadn't. But I didn't lose my empathy either. Because it's a part of me I didn't want to give up.
And this is really unsolicited information but in case you wish to explore empathy further... empathy comes from mirror neurons (neurons that fire when we detect a specific emotion in others and which connect to the neurons in control of our own emotions), but science isn't clear on how these emerge/are formed. It may be possible to become more empathic (just like I became less empathic) by understanding the essense of empathy and practicing its application. And the logical algorithm of empathy isn't so complex or mystical that it can't be understood. Whatever you choose to do, I wish you good luck.
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0 likesI cried. How... Why...ffs humanity...
0 likesshe is an awful person, but she did not rape or kill the girl, Ā to me itās bizarre she got the same sentence as him.
0 likes@Matreshkakate Look up the case, she admitted to being the one who killed the girl.
1 likeI get sick thinking of it.
0 likes@Nino Latimer srsly ?
0 likes@Matreshkakate she is the one that murdered the girl look at my previous comments at the top of the post
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0 likes@CJ Ryan what was her motive to kill this innocent flower ?
0 likesI hate that these child offenders donāt have the decency to just be evil. They always have to be crying, sniffling cowards that just deny and deny. Itās actually frustrating.
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He's withdrawing from opiates.
27 likesthat's a common theme in these videos. people that are genuinely complete sociopaths will always maintain their innocence, even with the detectives hit them with the "we have more evidence than we could possibly need to convict you, no use denying it, i just want you to say why you did it" because in the guilty-until-proven-innocent system it is logically the right move for the sociopath to make. even if there is a 0.00000000000001% chance that the ludicrous "but i really didn't do it" ploy would ever work, they get more out of it than a normal person would get because they're not weighing this choice against the cost of the remorse they would feel (case in point: casey anthony proves that this strategy actually works)
139 likes'Don't have the decency to just be evil'... I think that is the best way of putting that I've ever heard
125 likes@Olive Pedraza Dalia Dippolito as well. Some people think they can just nope out of reality, and the frustrating thing is to an extent, they can.
70 likesThe denial is infuriating
22 likes@ QuasiELVIS
26 likesAgreed, confessing should be done after you have discussed with your lawyer and they handle how itās arranged and make sure you donāt get for example first decree murder charges if you have committed second decree murder.
But we donāt get the people sensible enough to request lawyers right away in this channel or we would have nothing to watch.
Itās honestly vile. Keep that same energy.
9 likes@Olive Pedraza You clearly haven't watched the legend of Jeff then. :P
8 likesI don't think you get it, this is what evil looks like, cowards are evil and cowards will never take responsibility for their actions
26 likes@QuasiELVIS but every decent human being would confess like the woman did because thatās what they deserve and she knows it. It may be dumb but I think it depends on the charge
7 likes@Olive Pedraza Iāve read this about 10 times but I still donāt understand, Iām sorry, could you please explain simply? I really want to understand this but canāt and idk why
1 likeManipulation and deception is a form of evil.
2 likesMost cases of this kind of abuse are caused by a multigenerational history of such. Sometimes the offenders were victims themselves, and the one before them, and the one before them. That's basically why, because at some point, or even several, they felt helpless in their own lives, and their own twisted way of getting that out of their system, was to prey on those with less power than themselves.
8 likesGranted that doesn't excuse it, but it's important to understand in order to stop these chains from continuing.
These politicians and actors deny it with big smiles on
2 likes@InSaynt That is true but there are still people who get abused or molested as kids who never go on to do that to others. It just upsets me that anyone could do any of this to a child.
16 likes@Jomamasuks Pleading guilty is one thing, confessing to the Police is a terrible idea in every situation.
2 likesI always think of the Iceman, the notorious hit man for the mob; there was no pretense with that guy. You knew when you looked in his eyes that he was a monster and he knew you knew it, too.
4 likesThese people exert their power on children, it's easy to see why they would act like cowards in front of policemen. Serial killers that murder adults tend to be more composed or just mad and careless.
4 likesi feel like this might be behaviour modelled after their poor victims... it sounds very childlike
0 likesI agree, I think they've gone some way to convince themselves they are somehow genuinely innocent, and therefore won't ever feel the hell they should rightly feel with the weight of responsibility behind it.
0 likes@InSaynt at least one guy in this comment section gets it , this whole channel is pretty much making the criminals seem like pieces of shit , giving reasons for why they are pieces of shit , but never even take in to consideration that maybe the guys a piece of shit because some major influence on his life was a piece of shit , its a massive cycle.
4 likes@Vlad its because the guy in this video hasn't come to peace with what he's done , probably has a traumatic childhood and its all rushing in to his mind while he sits in that chair across from the detective , serial killers have come to peace with what they've done , any murder they commit is habitual and theres always a deep seeded reason for why they do it which in their mind justifies it , their deep seeded reason or belief becomes so strong in their mind it becomes a reality , for example you might kill someone because you wanna eat them , you wont get satisfaction from it because its normal, but the reason why you might do it is because you like to act like a primal backwards animal , or you believe society should be more like that
0 likes@CeresTV real evil is being stoic and honest , the guy in this video isn't evil , he's in shambles , and has no traits of an evil person
0 likesthey aren't evil, thats the whole problem
0 likesGood point tbh
0 likesSocial workers get part of the blame. They tell criminals that they have a "disease" and that they are not to blame. It creates monsters, but the monsters give the useless social workers job security at the general public's tragic cost.
2 likes@pyramidofbones Yes there is a higher chance of them developing serious issues in the future with out counseling/therapy but that is not always the case. Doesn't mean someone who was abused as a child should not get proper therapy/counseling. But just because someone was abused doesn't mean they will grow up to be a monster.
1 like@pyramidofbones That's true. I guess it just bothers me because I know people who went through it and they are great people and parents. The one person says it no excuse for them to put kids through the same torment they experienced.
1 like@pyramidofbones Yeah I agree that any child who goes through it should be provided the most care and counciling to help them. Doesn't work for everyone but it helps. Overall it just something that is terrible that no child should ever half to expirence.
0 likesOh, they're evil alright.
0 likesIt's just that, as with all predators, they are cowards at heart who prey on the weak only.
You can bet that he wouldn't have the balls to ever take a swing at a strong man directly.
He would have gotten his head unscrewed and replaced facing backwards.
@zo ed Are you confused by the word "decency" and its application on someone evil, who by definition is indecent?
0 likes@CeresTV There's only so much responsibility that you can have over yourself till you lose control, psychos aren't born, they're made ; weak minded people who are influenced to a point where they work on their own , they adopt the same nature and personality of said major influence
0 likesSituations like this is really disturbing.
0 likesI think many of them have used this strategy to get out of trouble in earlier life. Just not this kind of trouble.
0 likes@CeresTV i've made this case on another video on this channel where i said that not every medical case is the same , theres research that psychos are born on the contrary theres research that psychos are made, but every person is different, every psycho is different, just because you've done a little research on criminal profiling or psychoanalysis or whatever it might be , doesnt make you right
0 likes@TheLumberjack1987 Poor jeff
1 likeāI canāt stand by a man who canāt stand by himself.ā - Charles Manson
0 likes'evil' is best defined as intentionally acting in a way that is detrimental to wellbeing. I honestly don't think that 'evil' people exist, specifically because almost nobody acts with the intent to cause harm, including this guy. If this guy had gotten help, this crime may never have happened. That's the crux of the whole thing - these people fear the repercussions of being forthright about these feelings and so they don't get the help they need. This woman who abducted the girl could have stopped all of this, which is utterly tragic. She could have helped him pursue counseling, or even castration if that's what it would take to prevent this.
1 like@Steven Boelke he definitely acted with the intent to cause harm. He raped and murdered an 8 years old girl. Thatās detrimental to him and everybody else. Thatās Evil by your definition.
1 like@QuasiELVIS yeah talking to cops is very bad in general. Lawyer up no matter what
0 likes@TheLumberjack1987 Jeff built different
1 like@Tony Luong yes, he indeed is :D
0 likes@Kelz _ bullshit! This man is pure evil. I don't really care what his past is. Someone else's crimes don't excuse his. Like someone else in this thread said, lots of people have traumatic childhoods, but at some point you have up take responsibility for your actions. I'm one of those people. I had a horrific childhood. I'm not raping out killing anyone, ever. I'm so tired of this "I'm a victim" society. I mean, honestly... by your estimation, we should be happy he killed the little girl because now she won't grow up to rape and kill some other child. I guess this particular cycle will end with Mikey here.
0 likes@CeresTV you're 100% correct
0 likes@Kelz _ he's not built for this because he's crying and sniffling?
4 likesHe's not upset about what he did. He's upset because he got caught and will not spend the rest of his pathetic life behind bars
@LJ B you think someone thats capable of doing such a crime is upset about being caught? jesus there are some serious gaps in your common sense
0 likesNot when bubba gets his hands on him in prison.
0 likes@SHIFTY i can tell youre from sydney
0 likesWhy, because they're pathetic? It makes sense. But thats the thing, you never know who is.... people aren't always what they seem.
0 likesI also don't think people are evil, just terrible.
0 likes@Tony Luong You don't need a lawyer to not say anything, you need a lawyer for court.
0 likes@QuasiELVIS you shouldn't speak to the police without a lawyer preset
0 likes@Tony Luong You shouldn't speak to the cops at all. You don't need a lawyer to not say anything.
0 likes@Olive Pedraza Cops always say that, even when they don't actually have any evidence.
0 likesItās pathetic
0 likes@Kelz _ that's not being stoic or honest, man. You've got everything mixed up.
0 likes@NiL so youre telling me the vikings when they chopped someones head off (if they did at all) that it wasnt evil? shit i thought we've evolved as humans
0 likesHow do innocent people reply?
0 likes@Kelz _ what does that have to do with being stoic or honest? Literally nothing.
0 likes@Olive Pedraza you are mixing up sociopath with psychopaths. but yeah.
0 likes@Kelz _ examples dont matter if they're not related to the subject, genius.
0 likes@NiL keep telling yourself that buddy
0 likes@Kelz _ that's literally how examples work, "buddy"
0 likesAt times like this, it is nice knowing that people inside prison look at child predators with the same amount of disgust as people outside prison.
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Because they are regular people..
576 likesSupposedly. These days who knows man its crazy
35 likesIs this part of the video? Time stamp?
2 likes@Blooper Dooper In the USA in particular, inmates who have hurt children are often assaulted or killed when in general population. For this reason these prisoners in Britain (& much of Northern Europe) are kept on their own, separate wing of the prison, away from other inmates, to keep them safe.
358 likesIām against the death penalty but when I hear cases like this I often wish these monsters were kept in general population with violent criminals.
@Suzi Monkey After the murder of Becky Watts occurred in the UK, her killer Nathan Matthews had boiling water mixed with sugar thrown in his face by other prisoners and also lost an eye. His partner in crime Shauna Hoare was also beaten to within an inch of her life by her fellow female inmates. I don't want to sound nasty but just typing this out makes me feel a bit better about what they did to her - what comes around goes around...
196 likesYour point of view is clearly made by somebody who has not been in a position where theyāve been threatened by a gun, had their house broken into, been in a car accident caused by a drunk driver or any number of criminal acts. The people in prison are all criminals and child predators are the same as any other criminals. They are all criminals and deserve to be in prison. The idea that child predators are worse than any other criminal is ridiculous. Victims of crime are victims of crime no matter what their age. The fact that you think one criminal is better than another is ludicrous.
21 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind youāre completely wrong. There is definitely a hierarchy of crime/criminals, with elements of mitigating circumstances etc. Genocide, child rape/murder, spree killings, torture, things of that nature are far worse than vehicular manslaughter, or vandalism, or credit card/check fraud. This Michael guy being interviewed is a monster, and my friend who went to jail for 6 weeks for drinking and driving is not on the same level as someone that has done something this horrific or even worse.
256 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind As someone who has ābeen threatened by a gun, had their house broken into, been in a car accident caused by a drunk driverā, I wholeheartedly agree with the original comment, along with probably 99.9% of humanity. Whether they have or not, I donāt how you came to the assumption that the person who posted the original comment is not a victim of one of these crimes. Either way, these crimes are irrelevant to the matter. āVictims of crime are victims of crime no matter what their age.ā, saying this reveals your lack of empathy. You talk as if misdemeanors are equal to raping and/or murdering a child. Do you not have a heart? Do you not value the life of an innocent child? Clearly youāve already answered both of these questions.
122 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind in what Kind of world are you living that a thief and a rapist are the same criminal. Like some guy above me said there is clearly a hierarchy to crimes in general and itās Good that way. Btw. all of the things you said happened to me and I still donāt think like you.
75 likesā@jim watson Well, for a start I live in a civilised country called Australia which, thankfully is unlike uncivilised North America. Secondly, Iām talking about victims of crime not the criminals themselves. All crimes are committed by people who are now called criminals. All victims of crimes are victims and how they feel after a crime is not hierarchical. Thatās good for you that you donāt feel crap after being victimised by a car accident, being robbed, or any number of crimes, but that doesnāt mean that other people donāt feel like killing themselves after an act of crime has been committed on them. The only reason there are hierarchies in prison is because the criminals are trying to justify to themselves that their crime is lesser and their victim suffered less. The fact that people actually agree with the thought process of criminals is worrying.
4 likes@Kyle Smith Iāll just repost what I wrote to someone else because itās too difficult on a forum like this to argue with such a complex problem and clearly from different countries.
2 likesWell, for a start I live in a civilised country called Australia which, thankfully is unlike uncivilised North America. Secondly, Iām talking about victims of crime not the criminals themselves. All crimes are committed by people who are now called criminals. All victims of crimes are victims and how they feel after a crime is not hierarchical. Thatās good for you that you donāt feel crap after being victimised by a car accident, being robbed, or any number of crimes, but that doesnāt mean that other people donāt feel like killing themselves after an act of crime has been committed on them. The only reason there are hierarchies in prison is because the criminals are trying to justify to themselves that their crime is lesser and their victim suffered less. The fact that people actually agree with the thought process of criminals is worrying
@Derek Bertrand iāve already posted a few answers to people so I wonāt repeat myself fully. The only reason criminals think they have a hierarchy in prison is because they like to justify to themselves that their crime wasnāt as bad as the next criminal. And/or that their victim wasnāt āhurtā as badly. Itās the only way they can survive in prisons, justify any attempt at parol, and live with any guilt they may have within themselves.
6 likes@k1d n1ce Thatās a very basic reaction to what is a complex conversation.
1 like@Sounds of a Silent Mind Complexity is relative and what I stated is a basic undeniable truth. Comparing one with the other is simply asinine.
55 likes@Derek Bertrand You really think our in comparison uneducated minds (she was educated in Australia remember) can compete with her obvious powers of pure functional logic and cognition? Of course not! She's an obvious genius compared to my 'basic' thoughts concerning any form of logical complexity. Oh well,back to the books and study I go in hope of retaining such lofty heights of intellect...
41 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind Just to add that, as an European, I first thought you were an American. Your comment sounds like something a Trump supporter who has no understanding of human psychology would say
44 likes@Bart Simpson you clearly donāt know how to read. I did not contradict myself. When you are able to pass a 6th grade reading test, come back and reread, and then you can say you were wrong.
9 likes@Derek Bertrand Alright man will consider doing that once you stop contradicting yourself
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind You are naive to believe that. Peopleās views on such things very too wildly to just say that is it all weighted the same
6 likes@k1d n1ce You need to find Jesus.
0 likes@Artistry Artistry Of course I do - where is he residing at the moment? I'll go round and see him...
9 likes@Artistry Artistry I apologise for my curt response,it wasn't meant to offend or make fun of anyone's faith. I wanted to private message you this reply through your channel but found I was unable to. I struggle with religion as a whole as there are so many and everyone's God is somehow the correct one so I struggle to see religion as anything other than another form of control. Any God who should be feared or who would punish someone for not believing just doesn't sit right with me. The idea of heaven is exactly the sort of comforting belief that a self aware intelligent life form would come up with. I work with applied physics and finite mathematics as a mechanical engineer so I naturally struggle with any form of blind faith that can't be proven. Anyway,I hope I'm wrong. Peace be with you always.
6 likesthe first thing inmates do when a new guy comes in to the cell block is check what they are charged with. if its anything sexual then they will make his life a hell, trust me i have been in jail with sex offenders. the inmates who serve food wont even give his food. eventually he will ask to be put in protective custody. but if the officers are cool they will make him stay in general pop for a few more days.
11 likes@Jameson G.A. mostly. People in prison (for crimes they committed) are usually not crazy or anything, but some are chronic liars or manipulate people in some way. Yes, they are ānormalā just an exaggerated version of our worst traits.
1 like@Suzi Monkey the death penalty, when employed correctly, is a greatly essential tool. Being completely against this penalty is being instrument to the unimaginable crimes that it should be reserved for. True premeditated murder, rape, breaking and entering into a house with occupants (believe it or not should be included).
3 likesRelating to the dumpster fire of comments under OPās; I go to college in the USA for a criminal justice degree. In my intro to criminal law class, we were taught that the law in and of itself MUST be discriminatory. Not by race or gender, of course, but by severity of crime and circumstances surrounding it. If I donāt pay my rent and ghost my landlord, Iām still a criminal, but I certainly will not receive life in prison or be put to death like someone charged of first degree murder may be. In a similar instance, if I crash my car in the winter because I slid on ice and hit someone else, I will likely have to pay retribution and damage costs. But, if I were to have purposely driven into them with the intent to harm or kill, I would receive a much harsher sentence. Or, take smoking weed VS selling it in a state where itās not legal. The law MUST be discriminatory because there IS a hierarchy of crime. Itās a very āblack and whiteā viewpoint to say all criminals are the same.
21 likesno doubt about that !!!
0 likesIn some countries they castrate them and throw them to other predators who aren't and let them pay back and go trough the same thing as what they did , I bet they've been taken tender care in the prison
1 like@k1d n1ce claps
0 likesHe didn't just harm a child. He tortured her simply because he was bigger than her. From her POV, it must've felt like a Goosebumps horror book she read coming to life. He didn't just molest. He had violent intercourse. He didn't just kill. He beat her to death with blunt objects. Think about that. The physical act of killing wasn't sexual for him. In his mind, it had to be done to avoid capture but he planned the whole thing. If your mom told you that you had to kill a chicken so she could cook dinner, are you going to proceed beat the chicken to death with a hammer? Wouldn't you choke it out or just cut its throat in one go? Every aspect of this was done in the cruelest possible way.
6 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind Oh my lord! A nationalist! I've only seen these on tv, wanted to see them face to face at the local zoo but covid~
9 likes@Reuven Roslyn, Esq Agreed with every inch of my judgment. As a 5'9 middle schooler it's quite feeling unapproachable but God gracious it must be horrifying experiencing something like that with such a size comparison, the helplessness the pure paralysis
0 likesQuite good*
0 likesā@eman elghanam You probably should not be watching this as a middle schooler, and there probably should have been a more intense disclaimer. If it's any reassurance, the odds of you ever interacting with someone this crazy in your life are extremely low. Like millionths and millionths of a percent kind of low.
4 likes@Reuven Roslyn, Esq I see your point, but quite frankly I'm trying to get into psychology as much as I can so I can sort of prepare for uni, plus I consider myself near impossible to disturb for some reason, so I'm alright, thank you for your concern though
0 likes@Reuven Roslyn, Esq As to the second point, a young adult was just murdered a street away from me (she practiced fastball in the same sports club I did) so I DO have a sharp object on me at all times, I've gotta prep myself more then YE AVERAGE CHILLLD
0 likes@eman elghanam nothing is wrong with being a nationalist, at least not to a reasonable extent.. anti nationalist are just as bad as ultra nationalist, just in different ways.
1 like@Jameson G.A. I'm awfully sorry for the misuse of the term, I meant the "My country is flawless, everyone else SUCKS" Mentality, no offense to normal nationalists
4 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind This is going in the top 10 dumbest comments of the year, and it's only just February buddy. Congratulations!
12 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind I think someone who drunk drove and killed someone is a little less of a criminal than someone who raped and murdered an 8 year old.
4 likes@Suzi Monkey Here in the US, the prison guards usually do that on purpose and when the assault/murder of the inmate is happening they ignore it. Itās their version of justice.
0 likesMore. Even though it can be over emphasized by the fact that a more extreme hatred towards them helps survival a bit by fitting in more which is never a bad thing in such a setting, leaving that out of the equation you have to live with them and being around it truly adds more disgust by watching how victimized they feel they are, as if the real victim is to blame for them being in prison, adding more wanton disregard to the extent of the vigilante justice they suffer. Either way, its assured that the hatred and extreme reaction to these awful people society sets limits on because acting the way we want to isn't allowed, behind prison walls they don't care and do for us what we can't to those scum bags. So rest assured, you may not see it but what you wish would happen to them happens. Helps me sleep a little better at night :)
0 likesAnd yeah, they are regular people too. Just got caught doing shit you haven't. From driving without a license once to driving at legal alcohol limit once to being completely innocent. Very few prisoners per Capita are there for violent crimes or ones with a victim(s).
1 like@Suzi Monkey unfortunately in the US if we do anything to these monsters it is considered a hate crime and you get added time. But if you're in for Life who cares what other additional time you get added on.
0 likes@Jameson G.A. exactly they are regular people
0 likes@Blooper Dooper itās just a known fact
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind I'm the person with the original comment. You made a lot of assumptions about me, which is one of the biggest problems in proving a point, in my opinion. And no, I did not vote for trump. I'm Dutch, so i can't.
2 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind And one more thing, aren't girls who go to school in "Civilised Australia" forced to wear a uniform to school and not allowed to put on pants? And isn't there still Gender inequality until this day?
2 likes@Jameson G.A. you're absolutely right! I can see how i implied that i think that people inside prison are not regular people. Not my intention. But i did type it.... Maybe I phrased it thay way because English is not my first language, which isn't an excuse. My sincere thanks for this reflection of my unconscious behaviour of seeing people in prison not as regular people, and giving me a chance for personal growth. :)
1 like@DoctorShotHer You are right, sir (or ma'm, or whatever you feel comfortable with), I know the way that was phrased is not the way I should have, regret is being felt at this moment. Thank you for questioning my opinion, it makes both of us better people. :))
1 like@Sounds of a Silent Mind Stay silent.
10 likesIt's actually with more disgust because most of them were raped as young children
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind Ā«sounds of a silent mindĀ» lol your mind sure as hell seems silent jesus christ
3 likes@Jameson G.A. not reallyā¦
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind He never said one criminal was better than the other. Just saying
1 likeSOME people in prison. A lot of people in prison are psychopaths, and don't necessarily hate child predators because of them being child predators, they just hate them because they need someone to harass.
1 likeFor your information health care in the US is free now since Obamacare. There are small charges but it's mostly free now. As far as the uneducated Americans who made the internet that your on, who sell you our nuclear sub technology, who have fought side by side with the Australians at Normandy on D-Day. I think perhaps a bit more respect for your allies. And I di
0 likesthey are regular people!
1 like@Derek Bertrand Actually laughed out loud. Glad you made a joke out of this idiot, who is a joke. For some reason I just feel angry at it. I say it because humans know the truth of this matter instantly.
1 likeNot the same amount as regular people. Something much MUCH worse.
0 likesYou should give the most evil people the same grace God has given us all; youāre calling good evil
0 likesWe alll have this same ādisgust ā in the eyes of God GOD HAS VERY HIGH STANDARDS; he says if we hate anyone we are guilty of murder;
Point is we all need the grace of God; & Jesus paid for this ā disgust ā
Romans 3:23-25
English Standard Version
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.
Another example of the Holiness of God he says that if we have so much look at another with lust we have committed adultery
The point Iām trying to convey is yes this act that the suspect is accused of is horrible and evil; but we all are horrible and evil in the holly eyes of God; which is why we all. Need the grace of God& the atoning blood of Jesus; & as the prisoners who try to get revenge for crimes like this theyāre just as guilty as this accused man; we all be judged by God by the same standards that we judge.
Isaiah 5:20
New Century Version
20 How terrible it will be for people who call good things bad
and bad things good,
who think darkness is light
and light is darkness,
who think sour is sweet
and sweet is sour.
yeah its just a fucking shame they get protective custody because of that
0 likesyep hes gonna drop alot of soaps
0 likesEven the most deranged and evil criminals still despise child predators. And rightfully so.
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind maybe review your country history then explain to us what a civilized country Australia it is!
7 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind that sounds exactly like someone who has never beeen in prison. Although the public would see everyone on the inside as criminals. Your going to tell me im the same for being a drug addict and a thief as this peice of shit. Ive stolen things in my life, money, lots of shoplifting, B n E's into cars. All for the promise of money to get more dope. But even with all that I never hurt i child. Id never let anyone hurt a child. Just cause were all criminals doesnt mean were the same not even close
1 like@Sounds of a Silent Mind to rob someone at gunpoint you have to be in either a serious situation or have had a shitty upbringing, child predation is absolutely deplorable, no comparison whatsoever
2 likeswhat is happening
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind I'm happy you have several free degrees. I would think in all that learning you would not be someone who has a general opinion of certain populations. Ps, if you plan to kidnap and rape and kill a child, you get the death penalty. What is the confusing part?
1 like@Sounds of a Silent Mind A silent mind is a fitting name, thereās not much going on up there.
2 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind you. Are. WRONG!!!!!!!!!!
0 likesNobody gonna Hurt him in canadian dƩtention !! Its a risk the prison guard wont take to put his sorryass in gen . Population.. its to dangerous for staff and others..sadly
0 likes@Kjeld Versleijen ah dankjewel. Ik heb elke comment gelezen tot deze reactie in de hoop dat je uiteindelijk "yeah well..I am Dutch" zou zeggen. Volgens mij geldt jouw statement overigens vrijwel wereldwijd.
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind
2 likes>a civilised country called Australia
stopped reading after that
@Sounds of a Silent Mind so in your mind a person in prison for selling marijuana is the same as a child r#ping murderer? ..wow
0 likes@Suzi Monkey I'm 100% for death penalty. People are always against it until it involves their own family.
2 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind ācivilizedā Australia LMFAOOOO stay silent girly
2 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind how pathetic of u š, haven't u heard heirachy or were one of the bullies. Who refutes stuff
0 likes@ContritePenguin exactly. Iāve been to prison. Most people donāt harass the sex offenders out of any outstanding morality, but just rather that theyāre on the bottom of the totem pole. Hell none of those guys in there pay child support or are fathers to their kids in any positive way lol. But they do have a rough time lol
1 like@John Goldsworthy yeah, because prisons are full of murderers and rapist, right? Less than 15% of inmates in the US are in for rape or murderā¦ my comment was obviously in regards to the other 85% of inmates who are ānormal peopleā. This is why you should take the time to understand topics you feel the need to comment on rather than doing so based on assumptions.
0 likes@Jameson G.A. you just proved my point. 15% at least are not āregular peopleā. Logic hurts.
0 likes@John Goldsworthy oh, wow.. did you not read the part where I made it clear I was referring to the large majority, the 85% who are normal people? When making a general reference people donāt usually base it on the minority 15%, like you did.. You literally insinuated that all people in prison are murderers and rapists and therefore, there are no normal people in prison. Now youāre saying that me pointing out how only 15% of inmates are murderers and rapists somehow helps prove that point. Yes, all of your logic hurts, trust meā¦
0 likes@Jameson G.A. you ok?
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind hi, im from England. Youāre wrong. Donāt suggest being non-American makes you better than other people, your wax wings are already melting
2 likesNot really. Everyone has their own sin and evil so they pile on the pedophile so they don't have to ever accept how evil they themselves are
0 likes@Wayer Mane very few people are actually evil and crazy.
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind so you believe someone who is in jail for possession of drugs is the same as this guy? That they deserve to be in a cell because they chose to consume drugs society deems not right? What if they made alcohol a controlled substance? Would you deserve to sit in a cell for wanting a drink?
1 likeMore so than "regular people". Convicts actually punish these people, while "normal people" just sit around shaking their heads, saying things like 'this guy is a piece of shit' etc.
0 likes@Polly Hepburn šš I support Trump, but that shit is funny šāļø
0 likesPeople who steal or who like do gang stuff etc wouldn't dream of doing anything to children. Their problems are with adult people over particular situations and things.
0 likesone thing even criminals have is children
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind What's wrong with you? Not all crimes are equal. Getting stolen is the same as getting a child raped and killed? Really, what's the matter with you?
2 likesMost prisoners don't actually care about paedophiles, it's just a free pass to get someone.
0 likesGood point.
0 likesReally? You're identifying with criminals? I suggest thinking more about what that reveals about YOU. You take glee in someone suffering. That's sick.
0 likes@Polly Hepburn Your comment sounds like something a liberal would say who has no understanding of human psychology. I can say the same about you lmao. Iām a trump supporter and i study psychology, so what does that say about me? Absolutely nothing. It says a lot more about your judgmental character and your black and white views on the world
1 like@Agent7 Agent7 I can tell youāve never been to prison. And i can also tell youāve never heard stories about what people in prisons do to child molesters. I can almost guarantee you no one in prison is treated good
0 likes@WhoKnowsyour mistake is you are assuming alot and you are off on your comment, I am very familiar what's going on in the prison, read carefully my comment and understand what I wrote
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind you know as someone who was raped 13 years ago at the age of 9, I find your opinion on this matter to be completely wrong. I know people who have been to prison for dumb shit like selling weed before it was legal here in Canada, or drunk driving because they had an addiction that took them years while in prison to overcome. I donāt see these people all as the same level of criminality. Those who sold weed and went to prison for it are criminals because they sold it before it was legal here. They didnāt hurt anyone so how are they the same as this waste of air we call mike? This guy I know whoās name I wonāt say, killed someone while driving drunk it was an accident he never meant to kill someone but his pain led him to alcoholism that led him to drive drunk and kill someone. He spent several years in prison where he cleaned himself up and nowās heās a great guy who I talk to all the time on my breaks at work, how is he on the same level as this pathetic excuse of a man? This man kidnapped a little girl then proceeded to rape her doing god knows what to her before bashing in her head with a hammer. This man, this man is evil and is of the worst TYPE of criminal out there. Thereās a reason different crimes give different sentences because no crime is equal, no person whoās been labeled a criminal is equal. They all did something different, sometimes Similar but different nonetheless. You should really take a minute to think about the stupid shit you said and re-evaluate your opinions on this, because Iām sorry, but youāre dead wrong
0 likes@The Orange Wizard lmao
0 likes@Red Diver I can't relate at all because I was raised an atheist and idenfity as agnostic. If i want to judge the guy, I will, whichever god has nothing to do with my decision
0 likes@k1d n1ce I relate very very very hard to this
0 likes@Kjeld Versleijen
0 likesSorry, I cannot find my post that you are responding to. So I'll just say I respect your opinion.
@Sounds of a Silent Mind The fact that you think a child predator is equal to a drunk driver is absolutely disgusting and you should be ashamed. I can't imagine the amount of mental gymnastics you had to go through in order to make that comment. Gross.
1 like@Suzi Monkey in Russia the guards will put those kinds of monsters in a cell with a few principled inmates and accidentally whisper a word or two to them about the crime their new cell mate was accused of.
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind the sound of a truly silent mind.
0 likesBecause people in jail are regular people too? š not quite sure the point you were tryna make
0 likesThey get pampered in jail, people selling grass get more time and guys like this get 2 years max segregated and a name change.
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind So you just don't believe in reform at all huh?
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind being from Australia, one would think you'd be all about believing in reform considering the fact that Australia was started as a prison colony.
1 like@Sounds of a Silent Mind Why did you even comment this? or keep answering people? why did you choose to die on this hill?
1 likeMichael Rafferty meets Prison Mike
0 likesand one thing they all share is usually being a parent .
0 likes@Suzi Monkey look up the tattoo on Katieās revenge ooh nice seriously
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind youāre gross if u think child molesters are equal to bank robbers
0 likesEven the Co's won't do anything to save you.
0 likesI hope the fellow prisoners take good care of this one...
0 likesYou watch these and sometimes wish you were in prison so you could be the punisher
0 likesA lot of prisoners have kids themselves and since they are not capable in the moment to protect their own, they have no problem delivering justice to those within their facilities.
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind in a logical sense, you are correct. The difference is how prisoners relate subjectively to the crime. Since many prisoners have children, there is an overwhelming feeling of disgust towards those that violate children. The psychology of each individual prisonerās actions will prevail from their emotions and usually not contain much logical thought. But, like I said, you are right about each crime that has victims and there is no logical difference in those cases.
0 likesIf only our leaders did.
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind you think someone stealing is just as bad as killing someone because they're both a criminal?š Nah I think you're just crazy.
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind Why you acting like Australia is innocent. Y'all have had mass shootings. Not to mention how you were involved with Hitler and that whole thing. Every country has it's downside.
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind your right but raping a female, is a NO/NO is prison no matter what race you are. yeah criminals are criminals no matter what bt child predetors are in a class of themselves and they deserve every punishment they get in jail
0 likesThe detective's speech at the end just floored me. "Eight years old, Mike.... That's pure evil, bud.... That's what you are. No remorse. No empathy. No nothing. You're just hollow.... So it's nice meeting you Mikey. Enjoy the rest of your life. This is the kind of room you're going to be spending it in." I know this added nothing to the investigation, but holy crap it was powerful.
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I know that the detective did all he could to make mike suffer with his words, but thatās just too little for what he did, heās gonna live his life sheltered, with food and water, without worrying of being punished by other inmates.
279 likesI miss the days where ppl like him were tossed inside the cell with regular inmates
i would think it's the result of all those hours holding back because he needed to maintain the detective persona and apply the method to the interrogation. Once his job is done he finally speaks his mind. Just my thoughts
87 likesItād be more powerful if they made his cell mate a grizzley bear
45 likes@Lucignolo It boggles my mind why provide a criminal like this any,protection whatsoever!!!!
30 likes@Skye- The Conspiracy Realist! You are wishing great harm on someone else. Regardless of who it is, that is not good
23 likes@Skye- The Conspiracy Realist! Weirdo...
8 likes@Chakra_SSE what the hell man you even got me more depressed than this video...
24 likes@AljoŔa P Taking my words out of context, I said if you wish great pain and death upon anyone you are a weirdo.
15 likesI especially enjoyed the part about him and Paul Bernardo making googly eyes at each other in glass cells. šš¼
17 likes@Chakra_SSE you are wierdo if you want to kill a guy that raped and killed 8 year old girl in cold blood no remorse whatsoever, crying only because he got caught otherwise he was just like "yolo"
23 likes@Chakra_SSE well but there are things beyond redemtion man... Do you think this man can redeem himself?
26 likes@AljoŔa P You are putting words in my mouth. When did I say he didn't deserve what you said?
8 likes@Walczyk How?
5 likes@Walczyk yep
7 likes@Chakra_SSE i genuinely donāt get why youāre even trying to demonize people so much, itās normal to want someone to be punished and itās obvious people will think the punishment doesnāt fit the crime. Jails generally donāt really rehabilitate people who commit these crimes and in some countries people who commit less severe crimes go through worse things than this guy. just delete all your replies and pretend you didnāt say anything, i can assure you your unnecessary pseudomoralistic comments arenāt changing anyoneās minds.
37 likes8 year olds, dude...
9 likesI wanted to clap when he ended.
5 likes@Great White I agree
0 likes@Shamngus DANGUS polar bear
0 likesCanadian accent makes it better
3 likes@DoctorShotHer with 2 guns and laser beam eyes
0 likes@Chakra_SSE Sympathize? No! Understand the psychological pathology of a predator yes! Get therapy people! I was molested & cannot imagine committing such a crime! No way can I destroy an innocent life! No more excuses! Children's lives are at stake!
20 likes@Skye- The Conspiracy Realist! Did I say they shouldn't be locked up forever? No. I said you shouldn't go onto a random YouTube comment and talk about how you hope that they get their shit beaten out of them.
1 like@Chakra_SSE I can tell you now, if this was my 8 year old daughter or sister. He wouldnāt have even made it to the police station. Iāll leave what I just said to your imagination. Period, I meant what I said. Iām the nicest guy youāll ever meet, but if you abuse children, I aināt for one second going to show you any kindness nor am I going to spare you or give you to the police. Theyāre mine to deal with.
24 likes@Benladm4ster That would be a situation exclusive to you, others in similar situations would have the will to compose themselves
1 like@Chakra_SSE Youāre right. All Iām saying is, if my kid or my sister is sexually assaulted and murdered, the police will be the least of the guys worries. In fact, the police will have to lock him up in protective custody for his own safety. I know Iāll go to prison, Iām prepared, itāll be tough but letās be honest, whoās going to be angry at a guy killing a pedophile(apart from a pedophile themselves obviously) I also wanna say, I donāt encourage violence, donāt do what I do, I swore an oath to my sister and family that Iāll do whatever it takes to secure the safety of my sister, itās a blood debt. But yeah youāre correct, some people will have to show restraint and compose themselves, especially if theyāre in a professional capacity, such as a police officer. All Iām saying is, nobody is going to miss or cry over a pedophile.
10 likes@Chakra_SSE What I meant by that was, if I was in prison for killing a pedophile another pedophile in a protected wing would see me as a threat because Iām in prison for killing a pedophile, if you get what I mean haha! Oh trust me I donāt dislike people that would prefer a cold hard cell for their abuser as opposed to instant execution, but with me and my thought process, all I know is, a dead pedophile cannot reoffend, no other child is going to go through the same trauma if that pedophile is dead, I know some would disagree with me, especially from a lawful point of view, but a pedophile doesnāt think of the law during the act of ruining a childās life, so why should I? Thatās my take on it anyway.
5 likes@Benladm4ster Understandable, I personally would not throw my life away to kill a monster, but I can understand why
1 like@Lucignolo Yeah that makes it so hard to swallow. Yeah he received life imprisonment but it doesn't even come remotely close to the level of punishment he deserves. What he did is probably the worst thing i've ever heard of and its made me physically sick.
2 likes@Craig Monty same brother
1 like@Roy M I want you to look at the date when my first comment was posted, then ask yourself if it seems like I care to continue this debate when people cannot be civil?
3 likes@Chakra_SSE bro just delete your commentsšš
15 likes@Morbidly A Beast Bro just ignore my comments šš
2 likesIt's the same detective who interrogated Russell Williams. Dude's a legend
1 likeYou have to think of these people as sick and addicted as well- i know that people like this are terrible it makes me physically sick- they are sick though- their minds arenāt okay and so i believe that there should be therapy for those who want to change and feel bad for the things they did- but for those who are pure evil i think yeah they canāt change until they want to change and see the wrong in their actions
0 likes@Shamngus DANGUS yassssss š š š š»
0 likes@Box Now What tf are you smoking?
1 like@Urban Cow Thank you, commenter who is not 12 or overly emotional
0 likes@Chakra_SSE
1 likeWell said.
Part of the challenge of this disgusting shit is that it makes us think a bit about how to stay -- or work on becoming -- civilized ourselves.
@AljoŔa P
1 likeGet a grip on yourself. Take a minute to think about how you have failed to understand what @Chakra__SSE posted.
I think you're trying to give yourself the cheap thrill of being holier-than-thou at him. In going for the cheap shot, you only show yourself either lazy or not very bright or both.
@AljoŔa P
0 likesDon't break your arm patting yourself on the back for being so superior to @Chakra_SSE ! You're a real danger to yourself.
The good news is, when you come back in a year or so and understand what you have both written here, you have the option of erasing your sad little trail of your own self-love.
@KarenDied K.R
1 likeAnonymous sneer-poster, you're simply showing off your own inability to think.
Chakra nowhere defends killing a baby girl. You made that up.
You're just imagining stuff for the superior thrill it gives you of thinking yourself warm, angry, and somehow good.
@Darynn Vinson
0 likesFair enough. But then once your magic, new, at present nonexistent, therapy works its wonder, let the guy try to pay the rent on his cell by maybe stamping license plates for the rest of his life.
@Urban Cow what's with these weirdos who wanna kill pedophiles??
5 likesDo not harm these people, protect them at all cost!! Put them inside a bullet proof fire proof glass bubbleā¤ & thrice daily give them gifts such as fine Godiva chocolates, roses, various Thank You cards & always make certain the air-conditioning is at a temperature they enjoy.
@Chakra_SSE
4 likesyou ARE correct, pedophiles shouldn't be harmed or killed nonono they should be coddled & given a hug & a teddy bear & a hot cup of coco & a pat on their back & a free Applebee's gift card. We must do all we can to protect these innocent angels my friend..
@Claudia Solomon youre missing the point, its psychotic to think we should just torture and murder these people because after all they are people. Thats not to take away from the severity of their crimes but everyone has basic human rights and they should be rehabilitated to the best of our ability, because ultimately these people are going to be released back into the public and if they arent rehabilitated then we have a problem on our hands. No where do any of us say to coddle them or make them comfortable, but they should be afforded the same basic rights as you or me.
0 likes@Claudia Solomon Your comment implies we should be doing all we can for the opposite of what you just said. Perhaps instead if people ignorantly ignoring my point, they should actually read it and not jump to silly conclusions?
1 like@D X I don't think I used the word remorse
0 likes@Chakra_SSE real weird... not having sympathy for child rapist/murderers. what's wrong with us? š
7 likes@August Taking my words out of context, and you think I'm weird...
0 likesLol 1st of all the detective isnāt the judge or jury? Have you ever heard about the u.s. constitution it affords everyone the right to due process and innocent until proven guilty; itās easy to condemn someone of charges when itās not you or someone you care about; wonder how you react if the shoe was on the other foot
0 likes@Lucignolo at this point heās only accused of the murder we have to remember the detectives are not the judge or jury They only have the word of his girlfriend none of the hard evidence has been analyzed at this point evidence as in dna of even an autopsy report
0 likes@Skye- The Conspiracy Realist! lol oh you think itās noble for. A criminal to be harmed by other criminals do you?
0 likesWhat has ever been gained by repaying evil with evil?
@Skye- The Conspiracy Realist! you put praying hands at the end of your comment you should know this We have the laws in place to hold the guilty accountable
0 likesIsaiah 5:20
New Century Version
20 How terrible it will be for people who call good things bad
and bad things good,
who think darkness is light
and light is darkness,
who think sour is sweet
and sweet is sour.
Romans 12:19
New Century Version
19 My friends, do not try to punish others when they wrong you, but wait for God to punish them with his anger. It is written: āI will punish those who do wrong; I will repay them,ā[a] says the Lord.
@Chakra_SSE I'm a weirdo
0 likesVery unprofessional, however understandable considering the case. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve these words, but they shouldn't come from someone working in a *forensic psychiatry police untit*.
0 likes@Chakra_SSE I feel like you are the 40 year old who did it
2 likes@Chakra_SSE nah just delete them š¤”
2 likes@BubbleArcadia Iām pretty sure they would have their ribs ripped out backwards through their chest I canāt remember what the punishment is called
2 likes@Lucignolo they can def still get to him especially if the guards are in on it
1 like@Reptiles and more Blood Eagle?
1 like@Archarin yes thatās what it was! Crazy looking shit
0 likes@Shamngus DANGUS More likely a 400lbs cell mate named Bubba.
0 likesIt's really interesting to hear this from detectives, and especially from seasoned experts like the one featured here. It's like they really did try their hardest to make things as easy as possible for the suspect, an olive branch of epic porportions. But when that's refused they have no choice to truly look at the suspect for the monster they are. After all, they beg and plead with them for the truth for hours on end, appealing to their humanity and sense of right the entire time. It must be really frustrating to do that same process for as long as some of these detectives have.
2 likes@Ryan A not America, just a heads up!
1 like@Kellofwax says who?? what has proven that
0 likesIs this like a top tier canadian insult š¤£ I don't think this guy minds being hollow or pure evil
0 likes@Lucignolo Uhhhhh i donāt know what you think prison is like, but itās definitely not gonna just be a grand old time for this type of criminal.
0 likes@Darynn Vinson I would agree that therapy for people who have theese thoughts is a good thing, because it is a kind of addiction/compulsion but I would think the people who deserve a chance are the one's who seek help before actually committing the physical act of abuse and murder of a kid. Looking at pictures, even having thoughts like this is shocking enough! Any person would realise this and seek help BEFORE they commit the act.
0 likesJ
0 likes@ShibeMaster K?
0 likesJust read through the whole argument, first of all @Cjakra_SSE you keep telling people to ignore your comments if it bothers them, why couldn't you ignore the comments that bothered you? Its kinda funny, you are telling people to do the exact thing you failed to do. Second of all, things like wanting harm on others that have done terrible things is a normal human response, its our sense of justice. One of the reasons why people have a strong sense of justice is that they have personally been treated unfair. Because they know what it feels like to be treated unfairly. They want to bring justice so that people can be treated with impartiality. Justice is a natural virtue. Well- functioning humans are just, as are well-ordered human societies. Roughly, this means that in a well-ordered society, just humans internalize the laws and social norms; they internalize lawfulness as a disposition that guides the way they relate to other humans. You are simply judging people without the full extent of knowing who/what they are. Truthfully it is what im doing as well- sorry if this is bad, its my fourth year of taking english (9th grade) but I dont really pay much attention in class
2 likes@chloesheehan36 Are you judging the chakra Buddhist guy or the child murderer? š¤
0 likes@Chakra_SSE Why shouldn't they? It's absolutely normal to feel those feelings towards a monster like this. People should be able to express that anger. I feel like you shouldn't go into random comment sections calling people weirdos for having normal emotions.
1 like@Chakra_SSE only other child predators come to the defense of child predators
0 likes@Kingpin gfhdf Are you calling me a child predator? Maybe you haven't read my comments but I wasn't defending them.
0 likes@Shamngus DANGUS a homosexual grizzly bear
0 likes@Chakra_SSE stop with this bs. if people want to express their anger then let them. at the end of the day we're al better people than micheal here.
0 likesPoetry
0 likesPoetry
0 likes@Kingpin gfhdf 100%
0 likesI hope that interrogator has a loving family to go home to. He has to wade thru horror to find justice and closure for the victims and family. The guy is a hero in my book.
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Yep. Dudes a pro.
53 likesYes. How hard that seems. He stays right on point!
23 likesProbably gets off on it
0 likesHeās really talented in what he does
14 likesHonestly don't know how he didn't throttle the life out of him.
25 likesAdam Gardiner thereās no such thing as closure when you lose a child.
17 likesI literally can't imagine how much self control it takes to sit across this demon and listen these horrors he did to this child and fight the urge just to beat him into a bloody pulp and then some more
32 likesWell put I hope so too very clever man
3 likesItās really sad. Sometimes this type of work can change peopleās personality dramatically. My brother has worked in juvenile court dealing with child sex offenders and he has changed a lot. He has become another person. He is very withdrawn, serious and over protective of his kids but in a very exaggerated manner. It makes me very sad because we used to be close. Please pray for all the workers in the justice field and their families. This is a really hard job.
33 likesGod Allows UTurns My close friend was the boss of the homicide lab in our county. The things she had to wade through and the bodies she had to pick evidence from would have sent me to the asylum.
11 likesShe didnāt broadcast all the gore or talk about it to make drama. But once in awhile itād come up.
Her husband told me she was only shaken one time. She got home from work, went to their sonās room and brought a little dinosaur t-shirt to her husband. She said, āI never want to see this on my son again.ā
As you may have guessed, she spent the day picking evidence from a 6 year old who was murdered by his dad. That would be it for me.
This is the important part for anyone in that field. One day I told my friend that Iād be consumed with questions of how could they, why would they. Her answer will never leave me:
āI donāt worry about why they did it. I just focus on getting enough evidence so that they can NEVER do that to anyone again.ā
Of that woman isnāt a superhero, I donāt know who is. If your brother can learn to compartmentalize and keep a narrative in his mind like my friend, heās a hero too. But if heās not cut out for that, no shame in that either.
My friend doesnāt overprotect her kids, even though her son suffered a traumatic brain injury in high school. She still says, āI canāt keep my kids in a bubble.ā
Itās truly astonishing. And youād think itād take a psychopath to handle it. But no. Sheās one of the most loyal and steadfast friends Iāve ever had.
I couldnāt do it. Sometimes men think they ought to be able to suck it up. But if it ruins them then whatās the point?
Good luck to him.
Amy Kline Hās been doing it for a while. I hope he has the same mentality your friend has when heās working. Thanks for sharing!
1 like@God Allows UTurns I can't even begin to imagine how this changes a person. If these are the only people they see then they will be disillusioned with humanity in a way.
1 likeWhat people like your brother do are amazing.
@Amy Kline oh wow you friend is truly amazing too.
0 likes@Louis Cortez It phases everyone to some point, it just depends if the person will tell you...if they don't it doesn't mean they are weak, just means they don't trust you enough to tell you yet and that's fine.
1 likeTotal hero Adam.
0 likesHe's had to deal with so many of these people he's probably desensitized by now
0 likesAmy Kline Didnāt quite get the significance of the shirt... Iām assuming the other child was wearing a similar shirt?
0 likesThe guy absolutely is a hero.
0 likesJim Smyth went out on a Sunday he had off and actually found her body because he recognised the map and house terri-lynne drew and I love when he just sits and abuses him because he can he's a brilliant but savage detective and I would not like him on my tail!
0 likesgangsta19x I mean I hope the cop does get off on this. I get off on putting child rapist and killers behind bars.
1 likeYeah this was really frustrating to watch let alone go through it and pretend like you don't wanna drop kick this giant pos
0 likesThat is what it's all.....aboot.....sorry I couldn't help it.
0 likes@Ruby Rose big fax
0 likesWord
0 likesI've recognize his voice. I've watched his interrogations shown on YouTube before. Bless his heart.
1 likeI agree Adam.
0 likesThis man is disgusting, but I'm equally disgusted by the woman who helped him pick the little girl out.
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@Eva Marie *i don't upload on this often* did she? Did she get done for murder?
51 likesShe was 18, she probably had a messed up life that he took advantage of.
229 likes@Robin Sequira However true that is, it doesn't excuse her actions.
915 likes@Truth out of jealousy? Where did that come from?
61 likes@Fif0l It came from a pondering mind that is more advanced than yours. What they said could very well be the truth. People obviously do this beyond your understanding, and some peoples understanding of how the mind works is beyond your comprehension.
34 likesAt least she cried and expressed some kind of remorse. Real or fake, the other one doesn't even understand that he should at the very least pretend to be horrified.
196 likes@Random Dude oh so you watch rick and morty as well? These mortals cannot fathom our immeasurable intellect.
296 likes@Sand Hanitizer yeah I know that, but didn't know if it was true that she killed the wee girl.
3 likes@Sand Hanitizer umm okš¤·āāļø... Thanks, she played the actress quite well making out the he did it.
10 likesNo because he orchestrated the whole thing and would have carried it out with or without her. Heās the mastermind and manipulated her. Does that excuse her behavior? No. But heās a man much older than her who definitely has more power over the whole situation.
34 likes@starjen222 I understand where you are coming from, but I have to disagree with you. She knew full well what she was doing, and her actions directly led to the little girl's sad fate.
104 likes@Raven 100% Agree. It may explain the behavior but sure as fucking hell doesn't excuse it
31 likes@Random Dude I mean, I guess that's not impossible that it was the truth, but there are at least 5 other explanations that are more likely.
4 likes@starjen222 you donāt know her, so you truly donāt know how involved she was.
2 likes@Raven it does, partially. On top of her confessing, she shouldn't have gotten the same sentence. At least she should have had a chance at parole and therapy.
6 likes@Random Dude get that Mulan sauce.
3 likes@Robin Sequira it doesnāt. unless the court deemed criminal insanity, she knew what she was doing.
6 likesThat was one of the most sickening parts of this whole case. That woman is a monster
20 likesEqually, no disgusted yeah
2 likes@Robin Sequira absolutely 0 excuse
2 likes@Robin Sequira bruh she only confessed because she was already locked up and she denied it was her at first
27 likes@Some Black Guy With A Big D Note my use of "at least" and it might make a little more sense. Doesn't excuse the crime or lighten the sentence, but shows that the person - truly regretful or not - has the emotional or rational intelligence to know that they messed up, at least in the eyes of other people. The guy can't even do that.
4 likesAt the very least she helped the investigation, vs this sack of shit who refused to even suggest he was involved
6 likes@starjen222 @juan it boils down to this... yes she went out and did what she did and sheās guilty and she knew what she was doing, but she wouldnāt have done it if it wasnāt for him... it wouldnāt have been her it would have been someone else of he would have had to do it himself... if she hadnāt met this man she would have most likely never done this. So yes sheās guilty but can never be as guilty as he is
3 likesAs you should be, she definitely playing coy about her involvement in this, I won't trust her story about how involved she was at all. She his partner in this crime and is just as involved as him. Though her pinning it all on him is her making sure she doesn't get as harshly punished as him for the crime she committed.
7 likes@Robin Sequira u shouldnāt get a chance at parole if u brutally murder a child and kidnap her
9 likes@Robin Sequira 18 is old enough. iām 18 and i know better.
11 likesI understand them in a way, but still disgusting
1 likei was scared of that composite
4 likesthen the composite matched a real person ; - ;
My thought exactly. Sheās starts crying about what happened like she wasnāt one that brought the girl to this monster!!!!!
15 likes@Dakota Cabana Hahaha
0 likes@Robin Sequira who cares? she still led an 8 year old girl to a miserable death
6 likes@Neysiriss lmaooo
1 like@Robin Sequira She kidnapped and murdered a child. Therapy, sure... but in the confines of jail. She doesn't deserve parole
14 likes@Neysiriss these mortals š¤
1 like@Robin Sequira she DOES have a chance at parole- in 25 years. Honestly that sickens me- but I do agree HES the most culpable, thats why he got charged with her murder even tho its factually known he did not swing the hammer
8 likes@Fif0l i think thats a valid question. She said she eventually killed tori in a fit of rage, not because she was told to which means she got so jealous of a little girl being assaulted by her boyfriend, which leads to the logical conclusion she got jealous her boyfriend was getting pleasure from someone else, she didn't care it was a little girl being raped, in her mind it was a threat to her relationship. she deserves to rot. That being said she she did plead guilty in Canada that doesn't have the death penalty- which is often why American criminals confess, and Canada very rarely if ever has life no parole, so she really could of stayed under his spell and take the rap, im not sure how strong the case would of been without her. Still, thats why she deserves to rot and not fry
11 likes@Skot Matthews thank you for the in-depth explanation. That makes sense.
8 likesOn an unrelated note, I think I'm gonna puke.
Excuse me.
@Random Dude lol saying fancier words doesnāt make u smarter either dude
5 likes@Jack G That is correct! Anybody can look at a dictionary and sound smart on the internet if they really wanted to. I'm just a Random Dude, being me! I could be dumb ( no offense to less intelligent people) or I could be smart, very smart! I could be dumb to you and smart to the next person. All how you think of it really.
0 likesShe definitely deserves the same sentence. She lured a child to her demise. That is one of the absolute cruelest things that can be done in this world.
5 likesIt doesn't make it okay, but I'm pretty sure she was groomed. Again, what she did was terrible, but there's a higher level of blame to put on the man.
4 likesIt was actually Tori that killed the girl, it came out in court.
2 likes@Random Dudeur 12
3 likes@Robin Sequira she did have a fucked up life 100% I will say that and he probably did take advantage of that but no matter what it doesnāt excuse her actions and she had so many opportunities to take Tory and get help and she chose not too
1 likeSo you're more disgusted by the woman and not the person who actually did this? Interesting.
1 like@Naim Hrustanovic She only cried to get sympathy.
2 likes@Robin Sequira read online , sheās the one that bashed the little girls head
2 likesIām not sure if the translation was correct, was the chick her aunt?
0 likes@Angel Aguilar No.
0 likesShe admitting to being the one who bashed the little girls head in, broke her ribs, stomped her to to death, and shoved her body in a garbage bag. Millions of young women have drug habits, are groomed by older men, have unknown amounts of trauma.
9 likesBut y'all wanna say "well she cried and maybe she had a bad life ):"
@Robin Sequira idc she knew she didnāt have to do this you can say she was manipulated but she left the car 2x didnāt get the police heard the girl calling her name she just stood there anyone who puts their life b4 a child w/o trying to save the situation is scum and she deserves it
1 like@Enkoif fax even if all those things happen to her when she was young wht would she want that to happen to someone else
1 like@Liz Kelly she said she struck her in rage Bc he was getting pleasure for another person what are u talking about ALSO she walked back and forth from the car 2x
2 likes@Liz Kelly I am as well, "more disgusted by the woman".
7 likesShe did lure her in the car. Then she didn't stop it from happening even though she was begging. AND then she killed her with a hammer, out of just jealousy. She is a terrible monster, capable of taking other's entire lives without any hesitation or a valid reason. Just because she felt a certain way.
In an cross examination during the trial, it was found out that the woman had in the past blinded her adoptive mother in/during an argument, and put a puppy in a microwave.
I had an ex girlfriend who tried to kill me as well, had to live in fear, and had to sue her.
I have nothing against women in particular, but the gender does not determine who decides to become a monster.
@Bell Uhhh she also assaulted numerous people previously, and microwaved a dog when she was a kid. She is hardly some doe eyed girl led astray by a bad boyfriend. Sheās a sociopath in her own right and knew what she was doing, she just didnāt care.
6 likes@Liz Kelly The comment says heās āequally as disgustedā. Key word ā*equally*ā.
2 likes@Naim Hrustanovic yea sure. but she should be held accountable and deserved her sentence.
0 likes@Robin Sequira Why does the lady child predator and the sociopath who brutally murdered her parents and mocked her dad's haunting screams get the most sympathy? You don't even have any evidence that they were victimized in any way. Bad life my ass. They were weak and completely lacking in morals so maybe that's what people relate to.
4 likesThe detectives were giving her a cathartic point of view to make her confess. She was horrible day to day and subconsciously looking for some sort of story.
@Naim Hrustanovic He's crying too who cares??? She's just saving her own ass. She was his partner in the crime of maping an 8 year old. Weakling.
1 like@Robin Sequira i dont care if she was 10. lol . she is revolting. u may be correct . im sure no normal 18 year old would bat an eye at him. just talking to a dude like him would make me question anyones life style from birth . who would even try .
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0 likes@Random Dude the insecurity is strong with this one
1 like@starjen222 donāt be naive. She knew when to turn on the tears and show remorse but ultimately she is only sad for herself and what will happen. Women want everything equal between men and women until it doesnāt benefit them (older, bigger and stronger victim mindset). Bs!
2 likesActually the woman was the one who killed her with the hammer
2 likes@Robin Sequira no messed up life is a free pass to commit evil against a child.
0 likesRlly not the time for the "women are to blame too!!!" Bs , this little girl died
0 likesIm sure everyone is..? This was unnecessary to say and you saying it makes it seem like you are slightly defending him...
0 likes@aylincicccif the woman didnt kill her then micheal wouldve, their actions were intertwined, they worked together you cant separate the two
0 likes@Sheppee we not separating thatās the point of the comment which is equally disgusting
1 likeFeminists will say she was forced to help because misogyny.
0 likes@nemonucliosis I love strawmanning, I fucking love strawmanning, I am an addict, strawmanning is my drug.
0 likes@nemonucliosis who tf is saying this, seen a specific comment? You're making up a person to get mad at
0 likes@Skot Matthews I know you commented dang near a year ago.. but where was it said that she was the one who actually murdered her??? Also did she ever say why she agreed to lure her in the first place? Iām going crazy trying to figure out if she had an explanation. And crazy to read that sheās the one who actually murdered her? What?!
0 likes@QuasiELVIS do you know where I can find that information? I had no idea that she actually killed her.... oh my god. And did she ever say why she agreed to lure her in the first place? Trying to find info
0 likesImagine the feelings of the mother knowing the girl only walked back to school because of the earrings she forgot. Im sure she cursed the day she gave them to her. Rest in peace beautiful angel. And i hope her mom finds rest to.
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F. Moussa I couldnāt imagine...my 9 year old wants me to start letting her walk home alone...no way!
272 likes@Calamity Natalie May i ask which country you are from? Because im from Switzerland, and our children, even in kindergarten have to walk alone.
137 likes@F. Moussa that's because you live in a culturally homogenous society.
171 likes@Raph K not true
103 likes@Raph K shadow racist. Wow
161 likesHey, this is a white guy too
@Eddie Dingle š it's not proven he is what you say. So better not to judge. Only God knows our true intentions.
23 likesCalamity Natalie yea def not. She shouldnāt even be walking home alone when sheās 30 lol
35 likes@Lima Golf Bravo really? Is that true? Jesus h
12 likesIt's so so sad, I cannot believe things like this happen , I feel so sorry for this poor girl
9 likes@F. Moussa pedophiles exist in large numbers in Switzerland. Their offender programs are notoriously lax. Many get out to reoffend. I would think twice before letting my kid walk alone ever.
36 likes@Lima Golf Bravo show the proof to back up this claim.
11 likes@Lima Golf Bravo if you are gonna make accusations then you are responsible for posting the proof. Instead you act like a 4 yr old lol
15 likes@Bethany Michelle "Suspicion initially rested on Stafford's mother, Tara McDonald, as she had waited two hours to report her daughter missing even though her walk home from school was only a few blocks. Additionally, McDonald was unemployed, addicted to drugs, and hadn't gone out to search for her daughter, leaving it to the girl's grandmother to search for her, and later file a missing persons report. McDonald was suspected of being the woman in the security footage, which McClintic later confessed to."...this is on Wikipedia
28 likes@F. Moussa no, it's been shown that humongous countries have less crime
9 likes@PoutineDream wrong
2 likespinkpugginz proof what you say! Show me numbers!
2 likesElizabeth Sanford you Americans are always so sure about everything. Like you guys are sure about WMD in iraq? Lol
11 likes@Raph K Actually that isn't true, Switzerland is a mixture of French, German, and Italian regions. While each individual area might be somewhat homogeneous, there is not a distinct Swiss culture nor a distinct Swiss person as all Swiss people come from different areas from around Europe. In fact, Swiss culture is entirely a mix of the aforementioned regions.
25 likesDamn tragic
0 likesThat someone You are well informed. And what you wrote is 100% correct. If more people would be so well informed, this world would be a better place. Knowledge is power.
3 likes@Raph K lmao okay, yeah that's why. couldn't possibly be that people not being crushed under the weight of unrestrained capitalism are happier, more educated, and commit less crime
9 likesfrom what i've read the mother wasn't a very good mom... she was a drug addict and it took her hours to call the police when her daughter didn't return home & she expected the grandma to look for her daughter :/
5 likesDamn thats heavy
0 likespeople go insane thinking like that.
0 likesF. Moussa
0 likesNatural selection. No?
@Calamity Natalie Not a good idea to shelter your children : they will become unwary of their environement, unable to sense shady people/situations and overall too inexperienced with the outside world. Warn them of the dangers of the outside world, make them take precautions but let them become autonomous.
10 likesWhile i think the condolence comes from your heart, you've not put much thought in your first two sentences: "Imagine the feelings of the mother knowing the girl only walked back to school because of the earrings she forgot. Im sure she cursed the day she gave them to her." That has nothing to do with causation. This implies that the mother is complicit. It wasn't the earring or a speculation of circumstances that brutally killed the girl, but this disgusting guy. The reality is sad enough.
1 like@Raph K Both the victim and murderers are white. And Switzerland is not culturally homogeneous since at least 4 languages are spoken in different regions and those regions have their own unique cultures.
8 likes@F. Moussa really ? Kindergarten children walk to and from school on their own? You say it like it's a good thing.
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0 likes@F. Moussa dude... thats europe :) in all our contries children walk alone everywhere :) USA is different cities are wide.. less population in bigger aria.. alot of abbandoned places houses far apart one from another...
1 like@Lima Golf Bravo how do you know this? Can you link a source to that info?
0 likes@pinkpugginz swissy land even had legal child slave laws regarding orphans that were on the books until the 1980s.
0 likes@That someone there is some tiny obscure palce where there is swiss language and culture, like a little group of villages deep within
0 likes@Spud Murphy it's a beautiful thing. Our kids are safe plus they are very self confident. No maniac cops to. Our cops serve and protect.
4 likes@Eddie Dingle FACTS DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS!
1 likeExplain to me how someone is a racist because they stated a factual comment.
āYou live in a culturally homogeneous society.ā
āRaciiist! Omg my poor feelings canāt take the truth! ā
Wah omg grow up.
@Lima Golf Bravo looked it up, you're just spouting a bunch of nonsense. Why do you lie on the internet? What do you get out of it?
1 like@pedgeAndcheeks no, because it's a bunch of lies. Spent the last 20 minutes searching for an article that mentions that and none of them did. He's just lying for some bizarre reason.
0 likes@Rob Banks the only one who's feelings are hurt are yours, judging by such a brash overreaction.
1 likeRaph K that one no way correlated with the video...isnāt this dude In the video white? Why even bring that up?
2 likesThat is so sad. Poor girl. Poor mama.
1 like@Lima Golf Bravo cute how you just keep talking and send no links to back anything you said. It's been 6 months, Tom. Google relevant articles tend to be in the first pages lmao
0 likesRob Banks everything is racist these days. Iāve experienced racism growing up in the south, it pisses me off when people call EVERYTHING racist. It diminishes the real stuff going on
0 likesif it wasn't her, probably another girl. the true culprit are those 2 monsters.
1 likeEven worse than that. The mother was a drug addict who couldnāt even accompany her child to and from school.
0 likesRaph K THIS GUY IS LITERALLY WHITE LMAOO??????
3 likes@Thomas No offense, but ... how much darkness do you intend to shared with your future 8 year old. Adults fully aware of "bad people" get duped and hurt too. It isn't that simple.
0 likes@Lima Golf Bravo wouldnāt let me tag you in my other comment so Iām tagging you here just so you can see the other one š¤·š¼āāļø
0 likes@Raph K Switzerland is one of the most famously diverse country in Europe, as different ethnicities, cultures, languages, and religions came together to form a republic. Just say ātheyāre all whiteā to at least partially hide your ignorance.
2 likes@Calamity Natalie You wrote this a year ago. She's 10 and I'm confident you still don't let her walk home alone. I remember hiding behind bushes watching my son. I don't care who called me crazy at the time and don't care who calls me crazy now. He's 17 now and things had to change a bit, but you always be careful and stay alert. May God bless your little girl, you, and your family.
1 likeIt is crazy how small things like that, seemingly insignificant at first, can butterfly into thisā¦ an earring into being murdered? Life is crazy
0 likes@Calamity Natalie as horrific as these crimes are, they are very unlikely to happen to your child, youāre doing harm to your kids by not letting them experience the world by themselves, walking alone is part of growing up, of becoming an adult, and that process starts from the moment youāre born, you want your kids to be independent, you donāt want an adult child waiting for his or her mommy to tell him/her what to do all the time, and thatās what they turn out to be when you overprotect them, when you donāt let them experience the world alone, get into trouble (of course trouble they can handle, not to be involved into a crime like this as a victim, again, very unlikely to happen), etc.
0 likesThe conclusion when watching these type of crimes shouldnāt be to become overprotective, or paranoid when any male approaches your child, it should be to understand human psychology.
@Calamity Natalie I took my kids to school and picked them up so long they said " dad that's enough"
1 likeI couldn't take a chance of something happening.
Praise Jesus they're all grown now.
@LinkinParkRulz 227 yes but you can't take that chance with your kids.
0 likesIt can happen to you,SO PREPARE AND BE READY.
For your kids.
Take a breath when they are home in your sight.
@Jenny Realight AMEN JENNY
1 like@Carlos well let them be mad at my " overprotective butt when they're grown.
0 likesWhich they haven't, they even tell funny stories about dad being " secret service"
@F. Moussa It's common in America, at least where I grew up in Illinois.
0 likes@F. Moussa It'd be okay if I said the Swiss in general are bad because your government supported the Nazis, right? If you weren't a hypocrite then this would be no problem since you are fine with demonizing Americans in general, over 333 million people, over WMDs in Iraq, a topic that has a absolutely nothing to do with any comment here.
0 likesYou changed your mind real fast after saying "Don't judge him" after that first comment. But sure, keep pretending like you're just so great. After all, if you truly were then you wouldn't immediately switch your tone to condescension instantly.
@Eddie Dingle the worst kinds of people. by the way - howās nan?
0 likesThe subject matter of this video was already hard to stomach, but a realization hit me that made it even worse.
2033 likesThis case took place in 2009, and poor Tori was only 8. If she were alive today, she would have been the same age as me. Things like this are just a wake up call to how lucky we are to be alive, and the unfortunate ones should never be forgotten. Rest in peace, Tori.
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Hey man I feel the exact same but I can't stop watching these videos! Talk it out if you ever need to though man these things can stick with you
33 likesSame here. She would have been my age
12 likesI hope the people who were "just" abused think that way.
0 likesThatās a hell of a wake up call! Make the most of your time here!
3 likesI have a different look about life, I'm the same age as you said you are and like... I dunno, the fact of not beying alive is the least thing that makes these type of cases beying so horrible.
9 likesThe pain of looking for people that you now and not beying able to see anyone, the fact that she couldn't protect herself and the literal fisical pain she suffured in my mind is far worst then the rest.
She would have been 3 years younger than me. God damn.
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0 likesI remember barely hearing about this case because I was also the same age in the same province and I never realized how bad it was because obviously my parents wouldn't tell me why I couldn't go out that weekend or hang out after school with friends for a while.
6 likesBut holy shit it could have been any of us. It was so close to home honestly
I know right it's terrifying! Tori looks so much like a friend of mine too and it just made it so much more heartbreaking for me. Tori would be 20 just like me if this hadn't happened.
4 likesOh god. I just had the same realization. Rest in peace, little angel, you did not deserve what that sick monster did.
5 likes@ISAIAH SMITH Don't give them any attention. This person's a troll, who probably has literally nothing to look forward to in their life. They've been giving the same reply on every comment here.
15 likes@Not your therapist thanks for the heads up! Damn shame
10 likesAre we really lucky to be alive in this monstrous world? or are the ones who havent been born to see it all the lucky ones...
1 likeYeah man. I was the same age as her. Fucking monsters.
0 likesyour post was heartfelt and sentimental, but I had a realization that I cannot take it seriously with your Daffy Duck avatar.
0 likesI lived in Woodstock in 2009 and her disappearance / murder devastated the entire community. Tori and her family were loved by the entire town. Monsters like Mike Rafferty shouldn't ever get to see the light of day again.
2 likesYou be careful , little love... live your life twice as hard , one for you , and one for her... hugs
1 likeDamn š
0 likes@ISAIAH SMITH that guy needs to be put on a watch list wtf is that
0 likesI felt that with the Casey video! Caylee would have been older than me by only a month had she survived. I felt sick
0 likesShe was a year or so younger than me when she died. Fuck, man.
0 likes@alan caprock alan CAPRICK more like !!
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0 likesWe're not lucky to be alive, she's unlucky to have fallen into monster's hands.
0 likesLosing his life is his concern. What a evil person. Taking a young soulās future away.
0 likesNow I truly understand why, as a child, my mom would pick me up from school and would not leave until the children who's parents were running late had come to pick them up. It's a dangerous world.
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Your mom is an angel.
383 likesThat's such a lovely thing for her to do. Her doing that likely made those kids feel safer, she may have even saved children unknowingly
153 likesAt one school I went to specific teachers would always be outside and offer to stand with or bring back inside any kids whose parents hadn't showed up, they'd go out of their way to be kind and chat with us and offer to make a call to home etc, I'm really glad they cared a lot about that since a lot of places have the 'once they leave the gates they're not our problem' attitude
I think it's great you had no idea how dangerous the world was as a child, your mother is a gem.
67 likeswhen im older and have kids i will also do that. never know
53 likesBless her heart š
20 likesI was six years old when my school chose to shut down because of a blizzard incoming. They did not call my parents; they later said that it was up to the kids to call their own parents. Again, I was SIX. So the buses took us to our homes. The problem was that my home was up on top of a mountain, up a mile long road that the bus didnāt drive. The driver left me at the bottom of the mountain and drove off. I didnāt think anything of it, and just started walking home, in the tire tracks so I wouldnāt slip.
75 likesMeanwhile, my mum had gone to pick up my foster brother from Highschool, then drove to get me, and the school was dark. She then went to lot where the buses were, and found my bus driver, thinking heād kept me with him. When he told her heād dropped me off, she was in an absolute panic. She started racing back home, didnāt see any footprints, and didnāt see me.
She started driving up that mountain to get my dad for help finding me, and then she saw me, walking home. She got me in the car, and started crying. I remember being more scared of her crying than anything else. She was so furious with that school because when asked why they didnāt call, they said āwell, Erin didnāt seem to want to call anyone so we didnāt make herā.
Itās scary to think about what could have happened
Your mother is a literal angel
8 likesI work at school and parents get pretty upset and want to catch fights with us because we make them to follow protocols related to early dismissal, late picked up, etc. Safety is a priority.
5 likesWhy I was homeschooled
1 like@cryptic Where i live everyone uses bikes and stores are close to homes, which is great because its much safer. cars need to drive really slow so kids are not in danger of getting hit, and also because its busy in the street children are protected by numbers. In that if a kid is walking home from school allot of parents are always close by. yt channel notjustbikes explaines alot about why this kinda city is so great and safe americans/canadian city's could learn alot from this
3 likeseven a woman can aid and abet in the murder of a child. so what happen to the lady in this video. she should of gotten some prison time also
4 likesBecause of 1 case???
0 likesPlot twist: your mom was checking what kids have bad parents and are easy target.
4 likesThat just told me you have the greatest mom!
1 likeIt took you this long to figure out that Mike the kiddie fiddler really is out there š§
0 likes@Erinesque I don't think there are predators lurking everywhere for a six year old. Il bet someone nice had maybe picked you up and bring you home.
0 likes@Vincent Maurice exactly what Iām thinking too some mother overprotect their kids and in case of boys it makes em little softies. My friend met a girl her son was like 10 and I brought him to the store and when I got back he told me itās the first time she lets him go somewhere with someone she doesnāt know very well, Iām my friends best friends. I find her kids is withdrawn shy and is the perfect kid for bullies
2 likesyour mom is a saint. i will be doing this when i am a mother now. i wish there was a mother like yours when i was a child.
2 likesYou had a good mom
1 likeYour mom's a sweet lady for looking out for others too.
1 likeGod bless your mom man .
2 likesA truly kind soul your mother is, a mother to everyone
2 likesI went to school by myself from the start no problem. I knew not to walk with strangers under any circumstances, though.
0 likesGod bless your mother
0 likesYour Mom is the goods! Take care of her!! ā¤ļø
0 likesYour mom's a hero.
0 likesMy dad would drink and always come super late. I was often the last person to leave. Some teachers would stay hours after school finished to keep me company till my dad came.
0 likes@Erinesque Well that's an overreaction if I have ever seen one
0 likesWord to your mother, with respect.
0 likesMy parents just made me walk home alone. Shit.
0 likesBest mom
0 likesDepends on the type of society you live in I'd say
0 likesAs long as your mom knows the people who are picking up the other children
0 likesBut not really honestly
0 likesAt my school teachers wil wait with the children until their parents show up at the end of the day. Not letting them go with anyone else.
1 like@Amy A My kids school is the same. The teacher stands with them on the playground until a parent collects and if theyāre late the child is taken into the school office to wait. It was the same when i was a kid in the 80ās. Just common sense really.
2 likesYour mother is a bless.
0 likesI'm glad at my step-daugther they have a way around that. When the school ends, each teacher goes out with their class after picking up their bags and all and wait in the fenced area of the school guarding the gate. When the teacher sees the parent of the child, they let the child go. So if they don't see any parent of the child, they aren't allowed to leave the school yard. I love this idea.
Parents should protect their children, but even more important is preparing their children to deal with situations like that themself.
0 likesTeach them that stuff like that exists, teach them who to trust and who not, teach them self defense, teach them to scream or get any kind of help from people in the area.
Almost no random stranger would turn down a child that comes to them and said it feels unsafe.
Teach them to differentiate between good and bad situations and that it is NEVER wrong to say no to ANYONE that seems shady to you or tries to force you to do something, not even Family members.
Teach them to call a trusted person if theyāre unsure about a situation.
My parents told me when something unexpected happens (Parents die, etc.) and someone comes to bring me home, itāll always be someone i know very well, never just someone who says āIām a friend of Xā or āX told me to bring you homeā.
We had a self defense course in kindergarden.
Children can do SO much to protect themself and I think knowledge and a little bit of training are the best defense a child can get.
The parents canāt always be around and it gives the child a feeling of safety and independence to know they can count on themself not being helpless without them.
Parents, please PLEASE drill it into your childrenās heads not to go with strangers for candy, puppies, soda, anything.
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I never really believed the puppy thing was used. Low and behold
222 likesI was a very dumb child, good thing it never happened to me cuz I would have gone
Was drilled into my head when I was a kid. Asked if the mom of my best friend counted, who my mom has been friends with since before I was born. Yep, no exceptions.
141 likesWow what a great idea. That should be a thing. Parents telling their kids not to go with strangers why did no one think of this ever before.
71 likesThank god you came to youtube comments to impart this newfound wisdom onto us all
@Angelina šŖ“ if you dont think people should speak if they have nothing constructive to say, you actually agree with me. That person shouldnt suggest we start doing something that every single person already knows and does already. What a stupid comment.
30 likesLike me suggesting we should all make breathing an priority and should all breathe and make sure we get regular oxygen
@roberts1711 I'm just an outsider looking onto this thread but sincerely telling you, your comment was unnecessary and I don't think there was anything to be had by it.
93 likesThere're really sad individuals that this knowledge isn't common sense even tho it is to us. So again, what good did your comment do? Honestly. Could you just try to be nice?
@Angelina šŖ“ i was telling them their comment was unnecessary and wasnt anything to had by it. So you did the same to me as i did to them.
10 likesIronic
@roberts1711 come on. Plz don't tell me you were never taught that two wrongs made a right. At least we can say the op seemed to be saying this warning in earnest. What was your goal here?
52 likes@Angelina šŖ“ were you not? Because you did same to me that your blaming me of doing to others lol. Massive hypocrite
5 likesWhen I was a kid, I was asked by a couple to help them find their puppy and if I would get in their car and I was smart enough to say no and run home .
31 likesThank you. Children are trusting of authority figures and adults.
21 likesThey need learn who to trust and who not to trust.
I will show her a few of the videos of these cases even.
3 likesTori was taken by her aunt tho
4 likesi have a hard time watching my little neices and nephew play because im so worried they will hurt themselves on accident. If i had kids i would never let them out of my sight! i know thats unrealistic, and youre gonna get to a point where you cant supervise your children 24 hours a day. what an awful outcome either way.
3 likesit's sad but true, people in more rural areas tend to be more trusting of their neighbors and not raised to be careful of strangers or locking their doors. Even sadder is that most cases like this they are not strangers but someone you know so you can never feel safe
6 likes@Jake Rosendahl
3 likesshe probably told her her dog had puppies and was giving them away or for Terri to help her find a lost puppy, that could work on a little girl since they are more likely to trust a woman not seeing them as threatening
By ātaught thatā I meant that not every child is taught to stay away from strangers believe it or not.
10 likesMy parents always taught me that and still when a woman we didn't know asked me and my sister as kids to come inside her house, we did it. Nothing happened, she gave us a toy she wanted to get rid of lol but kids truly are stupid.
14 likesIf you read about the case, the mother was an alcoholic and not really there for poor Tori. Her grandmother loved her, but the mother had custody. So we're not talking about competent parents here, which is even more tragic.
9 likesWe have a family code word. If any different person had to pick me up (like my moms friend) they had to say the code word to both me and my teacher
12 likesUnless it's a butterfinger. Then you go without hesitating.
4 likesOr....teach your children not to kidnap!
8 likesUnfortunately, particularly with younger kids, you can drill stranger danger into their head over and over, but chances are they'll still go off with a predator if (god forbid) they're targeted. Kids instinctively trust adults, and think of them as the ones in charge. Makes my blood boil knowing there are people in the world that take advantage of that. They just don't have the life experience to know that monsters don't always look like monsters.
14 likes(Obviously it's still important to teach stranger danger as early as possible, just venting my frustration that people like Michael exist)
Also teach your children that anyone is a stranger. A neighbor, pastor, police officer, security guard, women, teens, anyone that isnt mom and dad, brother or sister.
4 likes@roberts1711 "That person shouldnt suggest we start doing something that every single person already knows and does already" Clearly not since it still happened.
10 likes@Susan Brogan Is that something non psychopaths actually need to be taught?
1 likeParents please also drill it into your children's heads not to be entitled to other people (whether that be to other people's money, time, patience, bodies, or lives)
9 likes@Jena Cide you dont know what that parent told their kid. Just because the kid went does not mean she was not told
3 likes@Cara Diann lol well if it has lots of likes it must be a great comment. Because youtube comment likes are the best way of finding profound statements. I believe scholars are attempting to store all of the comments with high likes in a vault to preserve the genius of mankind.
4 likes"Like if your watching in 2020"
Seems to be the most brilliant saying of the year according to your method of determining if a comment is good
Lmao
@Susan Brogan Both! It isn't black or white Susan. People shouldn't steal other people's money, but we still cover our pin at the atm isn't it? š
0 likesUsed to have a board game called "Don't talk to strangers" that we would play as a family. Lol.
0 likesWhen I was walking home from elementary school one day a women pulled next to me and asked me if I wanted a ride home. I said no and she eventually left. I remember crying the rest of the way home. For years I thought I had dodged a bullet despite never really knowing what wouldāve happened. Today, Iām just glad I never got in that car.
5 likesSadly, more often than not, it's someone they know. In fact Tori's mother knew McClintic. Teach your kids they're allowed to say no to anyone, not just strangers. If they care about the child they'll understand. If they're offended then they need to not be near your child.
4 likesMost children are taken by people they know, like tori was taken by her aunt. Drilling in "stranger danger" statistically is not the best strategy
6 likesYou can drill that into your kids head, but different kids different processing, taught to respect adults. Everyday my kids leave the house I worry about ppl like him and McClintock
3 likesThe really sad thing is, a lot of the time itās not strangers, itās a family friend or someone they know. What you should be saying is, āparents, please tell your children not to let adults touch you in these areas and if they do, find a different adult and tell them immediately.ā
3 likes@roberts1711 believe it or not, sir, not everyone DOES have that talk with their kids. I was molested at 5 because my family is religious and didnāt want to have the uncomfortable talk with me. So no, her comment is NOT stupid, telling people to ignore how uncomfortable it is and have the talk anyway is NOT a stupid comment. Your comment is and you need to grow up and take your bad attitude somewhere else.
7 likes@Angelina šŖ“ ignore Robert, opās comment is perfectly relevant, there are parents out there that donāt want to talk with their kids about stuff like this because itās uncomfortable, they tell themselves the likely hood of it happening to their kids is very unlikely so whatās the point, then it happens and their kids are left confused not knowing what to do. Even worse if the kid is told to always respect, listen to and obey adults. All of that is why I was molested and why I didnāt tell another adult about it for over a year. Ops comment is relevant, youāre not a hypocrite and Robert is an arse
5 likesLet me just jump in here even more crucial it is to not let them have secrets with any grownups. Theyāre most likely going to be assaulted by somebody they know statistically. Also they should not be touched anywhere where their bathing suit covers except by themselves when theyāre old enough to bathe themselves
6 likesShould this be done with an actual drill ? If so, this is tantamount to child abuse in itself...
0 likesI do this with my younger brother and he is so sick and tired of me but I won't stop repeating it to him.
3 likes@Stella That s the Case in 90% of the time.
3 likesChildren DO NOT understand Things, If you just tell them.
You have to play such situations through, without that the Kids know, that it s only an "act". Plus you have to do it with a lot of different situations and Humans. If a child f.e. would not Go with a completly Stranger, it will probaly open the door for a the father of a schoolmate. Or go with someone, who says he is a Police officer.
It s sounds weird, but you have to "train" your children in the same way, you train a dog. If a dog learns "sit" in your living room, he will usually not can do it on the street.
@TRAPPNEST No. Children Just do Not understand it.
0 likes@Mark Zola81 S
1 likeLetting children go alone to school, is a very important Part of a healthy development for children.
So, No, they are Not terrible parents. Parents who do Not let theire children develope healthy, because they are afraid of everything are instead really terrible.
Just f.e. look at countries like the US, where Helicopter parenting became a real Part of theire society. There is a ton of research out there, that shows, what these mindset had done to theire society and the mental health of a whole heneration of theire kids.
@Psycho Social yeah you tell that to this 8 year old girl, 8 years old is a ridiculous age to let you're child walk to school and from school on their own, 8 year olds have zero comon sense, crossing roads, talking to strangers, they have no clue, if any parent allows this in this day and age then there terrible parents, myself and my two sisters were drove to and from school and walked to and from school with my mother or father, you're talking bollocks
6 likesMy kids get scared when other people walk by us even when im with them. I was kidnapped in assaulted as a teen. I will never leave my kids alone
4 likes@Mark Zola81 Most parents let there children go to school alone with 8.... So 95% of the parents are terrible for you?
0 likesJust make a quick research on topics like Helicopter parents and it s negative impact on children, If you do Not believe me. I know, there is always more than one theory on how to raise children best .... But how I Said, we have a really good Research Object with the USA - a lot of people there live this Helicopter parenting to it s extreme and we can see the difference in the development of these children and the children in other cultures, who can grow up without 24/7 parental Supervision. The difference is very strong.
@Psycho Social what are you talking about? Only 55% of 11 year olds walk to school today? You're obviously not doing any research yourself, please don't have children, letting an 8 year old child walk along busy roads next to strangers ain't good parenting, if you think it is then that says alot about yourself
4 likes@roberts1711 youāre sad
5 likes@Mark Zola81 No I was not reasearching, this number. I didn t thought, you would took it as a seriouse number.
0 likes@Sylvia not necessarily about being smart enough, more about naivety
0 likes@Mark Zola81 Which languages do you speak? I can send you something, I have from my universtity to this topic. If you want.
0 likes@Psycho Social I am a parent of a 9 and 5 year old, no mater what papers anyone sends me telling me that it's safe and good for an 8 year old to walk to school on their own tells me they don't know anything about parenting, it's dangerous and incredibly irresponsible, any parent that does should have kids, goodbye
3 likes@Kat Russell seems to me like you are one who is salty. Your basically crying in your comment. Ironic.
0 likes@Mark Zola81
0 likesYou Don t have to read anything, I just wanted to give you the information I referred to in my comments. So that you can understand, what I mean. How you raise your children is not my bussiness.
And it s not your bussiness, If other parents deceide a different way of raising theire children and you clearly do Not have the right to call them terrible parents.
And to ask for a lawyer
0 likesUnfortunately most children are sexually assaulted by people they know. Conversations need to be had about not going anywhere unless mom/dad says its OK. Plus what can they do if, God forbid they are in a bad situation
5 likes@Psycho Social of course I have the right to call them terrible parents, because they clearly are, I don't need information off anyone to tell me that letting you're 8 year old daughter that can't defend herself at all out of the front door on her own, walking next to a busy road on her own, maybe even walking over roads on her own, walking next to strangers on her own, walking through parks on her own is terrible parenting. If anyone thinks that letting an 8 year old girl defenseless girl out on her own is a good idea don't have kids, end of
1 likeThis woman was not a stranger. She was an adult who was introduced to Torie as Trusted, by her mother.
1 likeMY KINDERGARTEN TEACHER TOLD ME IN 1965
0 likesHaha yes and Iām other news: water is wet
0 likesWhat if they support Biden? Oh wait, definitely not.
0 likesIām honest with my 8 year old son. I told him no matter what anyone says, or if they say I sent them.. etc. I would NEVER send a stranger to get my son. Never. He knows there are some bad people out there, that can do really bad things, including taking his life.
2 likesI didnāt scare him too much but I scared him enough that I think he knows what to do in that situation. I told him to scream, to yell, to run to any adult he could whether thatās a family, a store clerk, a teacher, anything. Heās also in karate learning self defense. Itās my worst fucking nightmare that someone takes my son.
@Angelina šŖ“ And IF you send a friend in an emergency. Teach them a secret code they need to hear first.
2 likesWill do sure.
1 like@Angelina šŖ“ What good did the comment do? It made me laugh. I thought it was a little funny and Iām glad that comment was made. I donāt think he meant anything harsh or mean in the comment, and I do agree with him.
0 likes@Mark Zola81 I agree that other guy is completely wrong itās never safe to let anyone under the age of even 14 I feel to be walking alone for long. I personally was always driven to and from school and anyways itās too hot in Florida (where I live) to be walking for 15 minutes. Thatās why I always go jogging after dinner.
0 likes@Taylor Iām happy you are honest with your son.
1 like@robsnook4512 that's a great idea
1 like@Chewy99 yeah I agree way to young
0 likesWe gave my kids a secret word & if anyone out of the ordinary tries to pick them up the must say it or they'll start to draw attention. We instructed them how to act & who to seek out.
5 likesAs far back as I can remember my mom told me that if anyone ever tried to take me away to scream "You're not my mommy, you're not my daddy" and I'll tell my kids the same thing.
3 likes@roberts1711 wtf is your problem man, nothing wrong with people sharing common knowledge and experience
4 likesParents, please raise your kids not to be creepy monsters too!
3 likes@C J who knows i thought i was making a comment on a youtune video like millions of people do. Little did i know youtube comments was full of righteous psychologists who decended to tell me how horrible i am
0 likesWhat if its a ps5?
1 likeI was walking to school with my twin brother when I was 8. A van pulled up in front of us, someone slid the door open and asked if we wanted candy. We had no idea the kind of trouble we were in, and we only declined his offer to enter the van because we weren't in the mood for candy. I later told my mom about it and she freaked out, only then did I understand what the two men wanted.
2 likesI'm glad I grew up in a safe nieghbourhood tbh cuz I was dumb and trusted literally everyone when I was young
0 likesI would literally walk away from my praents up to random person in a costume during Halloween and say they looked nice
I would have defenitely accepted candy if it was offered
People, please PLEASE look both ways before you cross the road. You could get hit by a car, truck, motorcycle, anything.
0 likesIn Sweden a child reported that somebody had tried to kidnap him when he was playing outside. The man had asked the child to follow him to his car under the pretext that he was a police officer. The man told the kid that the kids family had been in a accident and were in hospital. The kid asked the fake police for the password and when the police couldnāt give an answer the kid got on his bike and sped away home. This was on the news a couple of years ago and is proven. Have a password that only you as parents know, this way the child wonāt put down their guard towards strangers.
1 likeOne of our local news stations once did a news story on seeing if they could get children to leave with them or at least get close enough to snatch. Every child the reporter approached did. Understand, parents watched it on camera and had actually volunteered their kids to be approached because they thought they had told them enough times to not go with strangers! A school aged child will almost always do what an adult tells them. Children in public areas need to be under adult supervision or as they get older (8+) need to have other age mates out with them for moral support. This was directly after we had a serial child predator hunting down children and assaulting and murdering them for two years in our city.
1 likei learned what rape and sex was when i was 7 why well magazines were a thing and fetishes. but yes do this drill that into your kids mind but my case was unique.
0 likesMy sons know not to go with anyone thatās not us. My oldest says heās just going to start screaming curse words. I donāt know about his tactic but hey itās something I guess?
1 likeSadly, my husband could probably get abducted with the promise of a puppy. šš
0 likesMan thatās all I ever remember from my childhood. Is my mom repeating that over and over again. Iām 19 now and she STILL say it every now an then
1 likeYou can "drill" till you're blue in the face. Kids will still sometimes fo it.
2 likesBad thing is, a lot of the time it's people they know.
2 likes@RabbitTV the vast majority of the time in fact
2 likesGood advice....
1 like"Alexa buy an electical drill"
100% right!!!
1 likeJoey Salads on YT
0 likesI thought that was what everyone tells their kids. I got told that in the innocent '40's when most of the men were in the war. Don't tell me her family don't feel guilty.
0 likesI have been drilling this into my kids heads ever since they could speak. when they were in 6th grade there was an attempt to kidnap a child from outside of their school. brutal.
1 like@Melatonin Yeah, I think understanding what a stranger is, being able to say No to an adult, and recognizing that itās not a game are all obstacles to what seems at first to be simple instructions.
0 likesMy parents always had a word that an adult would have to say for me to go with them anywhere. Other than that, I was taught thereās never a puppy, adults just want me for themselves or to hurt/kill me no full grown adult would never need help from a child, so to always find someone you trust for help.
0 likesAbsolutely and contrary we need to go back to the it takes a village and watch out for the kids in general they are the future
0 likesI used to be in aftercare and my mom and i had a password so if someone I didn't know came and said oh your mom wanted me to pick you up and they didn't know the password I wouldn't go w them. I still remember that to this day and it was over 15 years ago
0 likesIt's tragic that alot of the time youngs kids will understand but think there are exceptions aka family friends or even family. Please keep telling your kids and reminding them and testing them and asking them questions cause this entire story made me sick and I can't even imagine the girl and her family suffering through something like this.
0 likes@crazytonic seems too extreme to show to a young child
0 likesSadly most kids are abused/killed by people they already know. Itās important to talk about strangers but also emphasize that not even people they know can make them uncomfortable/touch them/etc - PreK teacher
1 likeOr pick your child up from school and donāt let them walk home at 8
2 likesAnd don't wait 2 fucking hours to report them missing when they don't show up after school
1 likeMy niece is four and an only-child so she really doesnāt have much interaction with other children. She goes up and talks to just about anybody and itās scary as hell. I donāt know what my older sister does to teach her about stranger-danger, but I hope itās at least something.
1 likeI am a parent and thank god our children have not been hurt. We talk about stranger danger all the time. When I'm driving in my car, I point out strangers to my kids and ask them "Hey, what about that guy, is he a good guy or a bad guy?" I'm not looking to create stereotypes. When my kids reply "We don't know, but he is a stranger," I know we've done a good job.
2 likesAlso, walk the talk. Don't just repeat to your kids "stranger danger, stranger danger!" You need to verbalize what YOU are thinking about so your kids know how to do it, and that it's OK to be suspicious of people and not to trust them immediately. Once you get to know someone, then you make sure your kids understand that that person isn't a stranger anymore, but you still need to be cautious.
So when I'm driving or walking around with my children, I sometimes point to someone--like someone standing on the side of the road, someone in a parking lot, someone who tries coming up to us and talking--I tell my kids what I am thinking.. stuff like "Ok I don't know that guy, he is a stranger. He's PROBABLY nice, because most people are nice, but he could be a bad guy. I'm not going to go over and talk to him. I am going to roll up my windows. I'll stay a safe distance away from him. He looks suspicious carrying that huge backpack and shouting at cars trying to get drivers to stop."
Just examples. Set examples and make sure your kids hear you thinking through things. When I was a kid, my parents always said "Don't talk to strangers!" And a few times they said "Don't take candy from a stranger!" But that was it. No more context. I would see my parents talking to strangers (someone at a store, someone at the gas station, someone on the side of the road.) It was confusing to me. I wish they had verbalized what they were doing so I understood it. That doesn't mean you have to SCARE your kids and make them paranoid, because yes, most people are good, and you don't want kids living in fear.
And yes, I am one of those people who could NOT be a detective. I'd take matters into my own hands and I doubt I'd have a moment's reservation about it.
@roberts1711 no, not every parent does this and not ever parent does it effectively! Itās about teaching not interacting with strangers, understanding the temptation of lure and how to resist, and bodily boundaries as soon as the baby is born! For instance, teaching children, young teens, adults & even family friends are strangers if mom and dad arenāt around. Itās teaching that hugging and accepting kisses from adults is never okay. Itās teaching a 2 year old they donāt have to let everyone hug them. Itās allowing the two year old to say āno, my body, no touchā. Itās teaching children they donāt need to hold hands with adults or authority figures because āNO, this is my body. Do not touch my body.ā. Itās teaching your children to say this phrases CONFIDENTLY and strongly.
1 like@Cotton Candy Kawaii so true, sometimes rural areas have less structured activity or daycare to keep kids busy while parents work so often kids can go home and bounce around the neighborhood, leaving them susceptible.
0 likes@roberts1711 You know, something just occurred to me: parents should tell their kids NOT to go with strangers! I'm proud of myself and this novel thought.
0 likesI was gonna say this the parents unspoken of are partialy to blame.
0 likes@Pepsi Entitled? Donāt you mean dependent? Every young child is dependent on an adult. The little girl that was murdered was 8 years old. Wtf are you on? š¤Ø
0 likes@Ashbee Gaming trust? Fear? Respect?
0 likes@Mark Zola81 she was 8?
0 likesI have a 15 year old daughter sf course she is older takes the bus to school and work during the day . My hart bleeds for the little girl and her parents
1 likeThe worst of the ihumane category
0 likes@Angelina šŖ“ We need to educate them why, though.
0 likesWow. I am worried that kids are easily manipulated. Best to role play and practice tactics with children.
2 likesEven if the person knows your kids name. That's what my mom always told me. Some sick fuck could've overheard your name at some point and then some day come up to you and say " (Name) Your parents have been in an accident, they asked me to go pick you up! Here come follow me to my car"
1 likeI remember when I was a little girl someone tried to get me to come with them to find their lost dog. It was right in my neighborhood too just up the street from my house. I'm grateful that my mom and teachers told me to not fall for it.
2 likesAbsolutely necessary especially since a lot of kids are taught to be polite and obedient towards adults. My parents told me how to say no if someone tried to talk to me, but did not tell me what to do if someone hops in the car with you and pulls off. Most terryfying moment of my life
1 like@Jake Rosendahl
0 likesSame, my parents fiercely enforced being "good obedient kids" to adults since they were both very social and active in our community and meeting new people was a constant.
@Jake Rosendahl yup, me too. Loved puppies and candy in that order. I lived in a small village (300 people) in northern Germany and hitchhiked as a teenager. My teacher picked me up and my neighbors told my mother, who was fierce...š
0 likes@roberts1711 don't be like that
0 likespoor choice of words
0 likesWhen I was 8 I got lost really far from my neighborhood at like 7am and asked someone for a ride home and he took me. He lowkey looked like a weirdo but thankfully he was a good guy. My parents were so mad
3 likesAlso a very important thing is that you should tell kids that a woman could also be a bad stranger. A lot of rapists lure children with the help of women, but for some reason a lot of us have this image that we should be suspicious of men only.
1 like@Jake Rosendahl the āhelp me find my lost puppyā thing was used on me as a kid, scary. I was told to just never go with a stranger but I wasnāt told about the lines they use
0 likesMy mom drilled into my head that she would never, ever under any circumstance ask even her closest friends to pick me up from somewhere without informing me first. If someone tells me that either of my parents have "gotten into an accident", I get to the hospital myself. Public transportation aka, a rickshaw. No way in hell am I getting into anyone's car without my parents knowing about it.
1 likeThis case was horrible. I don't wish anything bad on people, ever, but i hope the prisoners make sure these two monsters don't even get to live out half their sentences
My mom has a friend who even taught her daughters to not let any male (including family and relatives) to touch her without consent, and go anywhere without the presence of another adult female she trusts.
0 likes@squid you must have been quite the exhausting kid. Squid, lets go - NO! ONLY WITH MY MUMMY OR DADDY!
0 likesIts disgusting how his 'biggest fear' in the entire situation is losing his life... Not like he didn't go and take Tori's, and her entire family's and a little piece from the entire community. What a narcissist. He was truly consumed in his desires; I mean, he wouldn't have done the crime otherwise.
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As a father myself of a beautiful 4 year old, God forbid, I dont think I'd be able to carry on with my life if I were her parents.
52 likesI can't even begin to imagine what they're going through right now.
I do wish public torture, followed by an execution was allowed though.
Even though the interrogators were using techniques it was making me angry to see that this piece of shit was actually being treated like a human being there for awhile.
21 likes@TheDeatharcana I don't know why people like him are allowed to live.. if only one form of sentencing would be to allow the father to deal with him as he sees fit. That poor family..
8 likes@jones dager let's be real. After losing your only kid like that, and the killer gets locked up, and is allowed to live, permanently out of your reach. What else is there to live for?
6 likesThat's no "justice".
Hopefully he wont last long in prison
1 like@TheDeatharcana live a horrible life in prission is much more painful dann a peaceful death
0 likesThe detectiveās basic strategy was, āItās ok Michael, I trust you. Youāre quirky, youāre not like the other murderers.ā
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Well, the difference is 1st or 2nd degree murder. "Was this just a mistake?" Is basically asking him to admit it happened, but that it wasn't well thought out or planned. His silence kinda makes it look like he planned it and is too afraid to admit it. I think this coulda helped him in the sentencing part of his trial. Obviously he planned it if he told his friend exactly the kind of little girl to abduct, but he had the chance to make it seem impulsive, like a mistake as opposed to a new lifestyle choice.
67 likesYou are smart you are not stupid, you just did a mistake like anyone of usš
34 likes@Max Covfefe the victim's mother says that she saw him one month before the murder, maybe he was checking on her daughter
34 likes@ano nymousgetting a parking citation, forgetting to schedule your six month dental cleaning, murdering an 8 year old....you know, mistakes!
53 likesEveryone makes mistake, murdering and 8 year old and forgetting to pay rent. U know same thing
25 likes@Jenelle Belle the worst thing is that those sick pedophiles really believe that it's just an innocent mistake
19 likes@Jenelle Belle it is very clever psychology, calling the rape and murder a mistake...and pretending to be empathetic....the criminal is more likely to admit to the " mistake "
17 likes@Jack Dwyer use ur brain
1 like@ano nymous a
0 likes@Evy Courtney Lol. I am 99% certain they were being sarcastic. Hahaha.
10 likes@Evy Courtney secondhand embarrassment from your comment
6 likesI want to know where the kids mom was when they took her from a freaking Home Depot or school? Young children should be glued to you where ever you go. You donāt see any animal in nature not being around their children constantly. Even when they are separated they are within eye site and ear shot of their young. Or why would the school let her get into someone elseās car? Doesnāt Canada teach kids about strangers ?lol
8 likes@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected I agree 100%
3 likes@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected she herself sent her daughter to pick up some earrings that she left on a table( i have a 10 years old daughter and i don't even let her go open the door) her mum was a little dumb but if she had any idea what could happened to her poor child she would never send her daughter there by herself , i feel sorry for her
1 like@Evy Courtney all of us understand that that's why we are not upset at the Detective
0 likesreminds me of what they said to Chris Watts: "Oh you know most fathers wouldn't cook bacon and eggs for their kids every morning?"
3 likes@ano nymous Somebody said she was lured from school? Because she walked home alone ?
2 likes@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected i don't know but in the video they say her mother just sent her to another department to puck her earrings from a table b if she walked home alone from school than her mother is also guilty
0 likesIt's funny, this tactic works in day to day conversation with anyone.
2 likes"It's okay Karen, I trust you. You're quirky, you're not like other girls."
Proceeds to tell him about a similar case of a guy name Michael Feerr(?) Doesnāt seem too familiar to his name š¤. Hey Mike, 9:52 āthese things happen all the time to guys named Michael.ā
0 likesI had too :,)
@ano nymous Yea she would walk home from school. Thatās unbelievable. Even animal donāt let their young be alone Jesus. If any animal needs to protect their kids itās human beings we are ruthless lol
1 likeāYouāre not like other pedos, you drink PBR while stalking kids.ā
0 likesDuudeee dead ass seeing it lol. Youre fun and spunky and i love your t shirt, is that hanes? Lol
2 likesPick me detectives
1 likeI CACKLED OMG DSJFJSD
1 likeGain trust with the Psychopath šØ
1 like@ano nymous
2 likesThis logic doesn't track. Almost every kid I went to school with walked home alone and none of us were murdered. It's like saying you're dumb for not playing the lottery because one person won the jackpot.
One negative outcome doesn't invalidate the overwhelming majority of positive outcomes and it's a little cruel to blame the parent for not anticipating the unpredictable actions of two insane people.
@The Zigzagman my dear we don't live in 1980, yes in my Country in my Village i used to go to school with my little friends and go back home with my little friends and there was no danger everybody kneew me + i was the daughter of the (Police Officer) and everybody respected that . but now we live in 2021 if you feel secured go let your 8 years old go to school all alone but then don't regret it . we live in dangerous times we need to use our brains
0 likes@ano nymous
1 likeBut the 1980s were the height of paranoia over child abductions and the violent crime rate today is nearly half what it was then according to the Department of Justice. Fewer than 0.0005% of children get kidnapped by strangers every year and only a fraction of that number come to any harm.
It just isn't "dumb" not to anticipate this kind of freak tragedy and I think it's wrong to pass judgement on the woman for being victimized. That's all I'm saying.
@The Zigzagman i don't know about USA im talking about my Country it was still a Dictature maybe that should be the situation in USA too, and im saying it for good so some criminal would not even think about commiting crimes so easy
0 likes@The Zigzagman i don't know about USA im talking about my Country it was still a Dictature maybe that should be the situation in USA too, and im saying it for good so some criminal would not even think about commiting crimes so easy
0 likes@The Zigzagman how did i pass the blame to her? If you will go back to my comments you will read it, i said it wasn't the smartest choise to let her 8 years old out alone but i don't believe that she wanted something like that to happened to her child
0 likes@The Zigzagman exactly since you know that even in the past those type of crimes have happened you should be more careful
0 likes" quirky murder" a line I never thought I'd hear šš¤£
1 likeHats off to these investigators who can say 'sometimes we make mistakes' with a straight face and gentle voice without gagging or having an overwhelming urge to jump up and pummel them within an inch of their lives.
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Yeah they're usually sane human beings
22 likesThe police have to act a certain way. They have to maintain professionalism and they could not lie in these interrogations. These tapes are clearly recorded and may be used in court. Would you want a violent police physically hitting the unarmed and cornered criminal be shown to a judge and jury? At best, the criminal could get a less harsh sentence because the police abused their power in the interrogation. Best? The criminal case is thrown out altogether and the criminal doesn't get sentenced.
36 likes@Ramuel Asturiano Yes I know all that. I was talking about on a personal level. It gives credence to the saying 'the thin blue line'. BTW after seeing several of these vids, it has been stated the cops can lie through their teeth to move a confession along. It doesn't impinge on them at all.
26 likes@Cringe Kid im just saying its easy to act friendly and professional
2 likes@Flowerpower the detectives are rarely certain the guy is actually guilty. In this case, for example, they just assumed he raped her without ant evidence.
0 likesSo they don't know he's a monster, they don't really know anything, which is why the interrogation takes place.
@Ramuel Asturiano "they could not lie in these interrogations" yes they can... the police can and do lie in interrogations all the time; this guy even does it here.
4 likes@Cringe Kid im not defending the man but I would not feel pleasure in that
0 likes@Ramuel Asturiano iām pretty sure theyāre allowed to lie..are you talking about using the response to the lie in court?
0 likesthat's why all these investigators should DEF go to therapy... that's a HUGE ask, to play sympathetic like that.
4 likesI know he is a better man then me Maybe he doesn't have kids
1 like@a your answer would leave people to believe that killing and raping an 8 year old is not a reason to beat the fuck out of the guy
3 likes@a They know enough if they've got them in there interrogating them.
0 likes@The mighty cfc she wasn't 8 years old, and the detectives didn't even know if he rped her or not
0 likesLiterally god bless him.
0 likesA small sacrifice the investigators take. with imprisonment they will receive much worse for theses types of crimes
2 likesYou think is his first time or
0 likesI couldn't agree more.... I would love 5 minutes with this guy, that's all just 5 minutes!
0 likesWhat do you mean? Theyād get fired instantly & would go on their record. They leave justice to the courts & they know theyāre part of the larger justice process
0 likesThis guy had me want to start talking.
2 likesIt boils my blood to see Pedophiles and Murderers who have no mental issues, cry as if they are the victims. Hats off to the officers who talk to them so calmly without showing the anger that they have within.
1 likeIt's good to see these types of people get justice for what they've done.
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Justice? 25 years of safe, well fed, and dorm-living incarceration for nabbing, raping, and murdering a little girl is NOT justice in my mind.
0 likes@furtim1 Safe? Well fed? Prisons are not safe places for these types of people. Even amongst criminals this guy is going to be despised and hated. They're not going to treat him well in there.
0 likes@Philip Relative to the abattoir I would put him in, it is safe
0 likesLmao just listening to him repeat the same stuff over and over is quite tiresome. Take a shot every time you hear the word "credibility." Its genius it creates mental exhaustion even from the objective perspective
1 likeHe did such a horrible thing. And acts like such a coward when caught. Can't even admit to his crime. At least come clean. Coward.
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I know. It made me angry when we came in talking about how "tough" it's been since he's been there since noon.. God, that's tough? But what about what he put that poor baby through. This man is sick. Some people deserve to burn
67 likes@Username She got the same sentence he did (LWOP for 25 years). The difference is, of the two of them, if both make it to 25 years it's pretty clear which of them would actually be paroled, and which will be left to rot forever.
22 likesI don't think these kind of people can be judged by the usual standards, as on being coward. His brain works way differently than both our minds, emotions like guilt, cowardness, regret... Can't be felt by him the way most of us feel it. His head just does not function the way it's supposed to. I can't find another possible explanation for the acts that he committed.
12 likesWell that's because people who commit crimes like these ARE cowards, always has been always will be. Only cowards prey on defenseless children
13 likesYup
0 likesHe could've come clean within the first minute and nothing would've changed tbh
1 likeJust like Hashinshin
1 likeMany of them do, as soon as itās their ass thatās uncomfortable and especially when an adult, that they canāt manipulate, confronts them. Itās pathetic.
2 likesSelf preservation is a thing. People always try to act or play innocent to get away when caught.
0 likes@Professor Waffle he did it bc he was caught and he knew his life was over ... poor him. Heās disgusting! Thank the lord he was caught so quickly
3 likes@ScamDetector If youre viewing it from a perspective of self preservation. But if youre viewing it from a moral one the right thing to do is to own up to your heinous act.
1 likeU really trying to apply normal logic to somebody who is clearly doesn't think like normal ppl
0 likesFor sure he couldn't handle it but it seems like he is trying to make himself believe it too. If he keeps saying he didn't do it, maybe it will just go away. Total lack of intelligence. Like, what did he think the outcome would be. That he would just walk away?
0 likes@Jason Kemmery denial*
1 like@Jerel March Thanks. Fixed.
0 likesIt's a horrific thing to do. Pedophilia is a disease. They're not proud of it. They have urges and cravings just like us and they're hard to control. Just because you're not a pedophile doesn't mean you can't try to understand what's WRONG with them.
0 likesI bet you wouldn't come clean about things you're embarassed of. We all have things in our past that more or less haunt us.
@Username they got the same sentence, theyāll be away for a long time.
0 likesYes like at least give the girl some closure.
0 likes@C H O N K you mean 'closure'?
0 likes@Wander- ly yes sorry.
0 likesI dont know why i was so somber throughout this up until i cracked up after 46 minutes of "are you hungery can i get you something to eat" after every few sentences only for him to break and JCS cuts in saying no food was coming
3 likesBefore I watched this video i firmly believed, that noone is ever beyond redemption.
1 likeNow, I'm not so sure.
All that talking by the detective would drive me bonkers! Nice job!
0 likesThis is making me physically sick. That poor little girl š
2 likes"and I'm having a good time" and "you are a sick puppy" are things that will probably stay in this mike guy head for a very long time lol
0 likesTori Stafford would've turned 21. But her life was tragically cut short by this horrible excuse for a human being.
0 likesI can't imagine a more Canadian thing than a cop telling a suspected child rapist and murderer "you haven't even touched your doughnut".
1 likeWas there ever a psychological evaluation & report of Michael Rafferty? It might give clues to whether Michael Rafferty was actually a good guy who āsnappedā like the first detective is suggesting to him, or whether heās indeed cold blooded & knew exactly what he was doing. Of course what he did was unacceptable & needs to pay for it somehow, yet I always try to maintain open mindedness & consider whether good people can make bad mistakes vs cold blooded real evil.
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You only keep an open mind because sheās not your daughter, or sister!
0 likesI really like the second detective who gave it to Michael straight. Gave him hell and told him what a sick pos he is. I hope he gets tortured in prison.
0 likesfor crimes against the most vulnerable, a life sentence should be the life of the individual criminal themselves...not just a set number of years for all. seems a heavy flaw that should be rectified
0 likesI would put this kind of people to life in prison but not just staying there doing nothing, actually making them do hard labour for the community until their hands fall off because of the exhaustion
0 likesThis interrogator is relentless. Dude throws so many words at this guy so fast lmao
0 likesThat was the most legendary āyouāre not that guyā moments of all time
1 likeWas it really necessary to give us an hour long video of an inspector monologuing with little to no response from the suspect? Nothing of substance was provided here. Huge disappointment from the normally compelling JCS.
2 likesSo why in the heck do they a chance at parole in 25 years?? I pray they never get out..little sweet tori won't ever get her life back because of them..that lady is just as guilty. The system is whacked.
4 likesits crazy to think that if the woman just used her right to remain silent and talk to a lawyer they wouldnt be caught
0 likescannot understand child predators. even if they were hurt as children you'd think they'd have the fucking intelligence to seek council and help. instead they ruin the lives of our most precious people.
4 likesMichaels whole attitude towards everything during the investigation is that of a child.
3 likesIm glad ppl in jail take care of ppl like this so they live under constant fear, terror and discomfort for the rest of their life. Killing them is way to easy. I bet the prison guards wont run especially fast to their aid either.
1 likethis story broke me when it happened. was too close to home
0 likesI'm happy in the end what that last detective said to him, you and Paul Bernardo can make googly eyes or whatever else it is you guys do! Perfect way to end it
1 likeI mean it's like being trapped in a room with a Jedi and their mind tricks. Lawyer up, don't talk to the police - even if you're bang to rights, get your deal hammered out then confess.
0 likesfor such hideous and dastardly crimes there should be no chance of parole at all
1 likethe victim girl hasn't a parole to come back to life either
Do you know what a psychopath is, Mike?
0 likesI've never met one.
Well, I just met one tonight.
I highly doubt anyone who tried to take a shot every time he said āKay is still alive to tell the tale.
1 likeI'm so happy I don't have to sit across from this detective
0 likesHoly crap I feel like I'm being tortured by the investigator'sl incessant rambling.
0 likesI imagine it maybe would have been satisfying if the detective returned with food but instead of giving it to him, he would drop it in the trash bin in front of him, spit on it and then just leave the room.
0 likesI LOVE your videos. WIsh you had more.
0 likesDetective: 'what's your biggest concern now you've been charged with this?'
0 likesMonster: 'losing my life'
I felt like putting my fist through my computer screen when he said that the horrible bastard he is
"See how bad I'm feeling? I can't even eat!" lol, it's like this guy is trying to convince his mom that he's sick enough to stay home from school
8 likesHow can someone do this to a child ?
2 likesA women luring a child is too much
These Canadian interrogators are amazing, ok? Some of the best, ok? These are some next level speech skills, ok?
1 likeMen like this is why I believe in the death penalty.
2 likesThe best comment was when some talked about Canadian interrogation torture tactics. A plain donut and tea with one sugar.
3 likes10:16 pretending like it would be understandable bless that detectives heart. I wouldnāt be able to do it.
0 likesThis Detective LOVES HEARING HIS OWN VOICE!
0 likesDetective is an absolute pro.
0 likesI think the death penalty should be a thing in some cases.
1 likeImagine murdering a child and then acting like a victim. Jeez I hope he gets tortured in jail
1 likeMost Canadian forensic investigator ever, eh?
2 likesWhereād you go pal, we need more videos.
2 likesNot a fan of cops but guys like this detective is why we need them good job sir
2 likesWhat a beautiful little girl it's so sad there's too many monsters that's why parents need to watch their kids very closely and the school should have made sure that that little girl got home safe
0 likesUPDATE: 8 years into his sentence Rafferty was moved to a medium security prison where he can use the internet to make online dating profiles and play video games.
0 likesTook a shot every time the interrogator said "Turn back time" and ive got a pretty healthy buzz going.
1 likepoor baby had she not gone back for those earrings omg how the mother must feel wrong place wrong time rest in peace baby girl you didn't deserve this
1 likeplaying "the bad cop" in these cases must be the easiest job in the world
0 likesI would confess after the 500th time the investigator said, "Okay?...". It's a great technique because I just want him to stoooooppp taaaalking. Absolutely brilliant.
0 likesThis is just one of the worst stories I've ever heard....maybe his FN evil attitude like he didn't do anything makes me hate him such more than other child killers
0 likes33:50 the detective mirror his movements is just genius
0 likesMan, I want to be an interrogator...
1 likeI lived nearby when this happened and everyone was accusing her poor mother. It was so disgusting when what really happened came out.
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Her mother was a junkie and should have been accompanying her child. Who tf sends a little girl home on her own. The school is also culpable.
102 likes@Jojo I agree with you, but a more responsible parent would have been with their child. I was left alone a lot as a kid, and it was totally inappropriate. Thankfully, I was never harmed like this poor girl.
87 likes@Jojo "letting her leave on her own was dangerous, the mother and school both failed to protect her"
47 likes"Wow can't believe you think that means the kid deserved it"
Rephrased so you can better understand how this comment comes off
@Huit Lang Thatās how I read it during that time so mb if Iām wrong but Iām making some roasted cauliflower rn
4 likes@Jojo yeah yb
3 likesJesus! According to some of these comments this little girl had no one to protect her at any point of her life and she died unprotected. People like these are why I get anxious when I see a child without their parent. I will stop what I'm doing and look for their parent or caregiver. This poor child..
16 likesI mean, her mother didn't report her missing for 2 hours even though she lived only a couple of blocks away from the school. Her mom was also unemployed, addicted to drugs and hadn't gone out to search for her daughter, leaving it to the grandmother to search for her and later file a missing persons report. The woman that lured her away actually spent more time searching for her remains with the police than her own mom. That's pretty damn sad. I can see why the community initially thought her mom was involved.
50 likesā@joe mamadotnet If the news reports are true this was her first time walking home alone to their new house. She was supposed to be with her older brother but he left without her to walk the neighbourhood kids home and couldn't find her when he came back. She wasn't with the group of kids because she went back into the school to pick up something she forgot. This could have happened to any of the kids in that neighbourhood.
25 likes@Nadia M like I said it was according to the other comments so if you wanna set the record straight tell everyone
0 likes@joe mamadotnet sorry I was agreeing with you.
3 likes@E H-I I will read this later doing homework
0 likes@Smoppet Statistics show kids are in more danger with family at home than walking home from school. They lived a few block and as long as the roads are safe and the child doesn't have any sort of disability an 8 yo walking to/from school isn't the problem, not teaching them not to walk off with a stranger is. My kids walked to school just like I did and my parents did. It's silly to think in general kids shouldn't walk to school.
17 likesExcellent point, crimes like this really cast a shadow on the family until the truth comes out
1 like@Barwar it depends on the place and distance but generally a 8 year old is capable of walking home from school by herself, thatās not neglectful
9 likes@Cynas Young kids need responsible supervision going to/from school. Domestic violence is a different issue.
6 likes@Barwar Sad truth is that no one care about their child until something went wrong.
4 likes@November Blake Are you serious right now??
1 like@Cynas I highly disagree..no small child should walk alone.
3 likes@Nope an eight year old is in second grade, itās not like she was a toddler. In my country at least itās completely normal to have them walk to school alone,some even ride the bus to school. However I have realized that this seems to be insanely uncommon in the US, where parents seem to shelter their kids more
8 likes@November Blake Oh yeah..because monsters and creeps lurk.
0 likes@Nope sad to see that the US seems to be such a dangerous country for children
1 like@November Blake Yeah apparently. But creeps are everywhere.
2 likes@Nissan Skyline Ok well at least the story is beginning to make a bit more sense. Children stop falling for the, "hey little kid come to my van I have some candy" or "hey little kid you want to see a puppy" but if the mother is unemployed and addicted to drugs I'm pretty sure the mother never really talked that girl any life lessons like such.
6 likesThat is disgusting.
0 likes@Jojo not very bright are you?
1 like@Nostalgia Addict so true
0 likes@November Blake Where I live, itās not safe to walk by yourself even if youāre a full grown woman. Depends on the country and area. Some places are safe but a lot of places are extremely sketchy. My whole country is
1 like@Barwar
2 likesShe might not have been a good mother, but drug addicts arent child murderer/rapists. She did not deserve to be accused of such a terrible crime.
@Barwar itās a lot more common then you obviously realize ! Many children walk home alone on the daily . Do I agree with it ? No, my kids never ever walked home alone from school., but it is a reality that occurs every single day all over
1 likeIt's normally the father everyone blames. Even cops. Women not so much
1 like@Huit Lang That's not what it means at all. He didn't blame the child he said the school and mother should have done more that's so completely different.
1 like@joe mamadotnet I found a little boy wandering around a shopping center parking lot. I watched him for a few minutes. When no one came around to check on him I went to talk to him. He was probably 6 years old. He finally told me he thought his mother was in Kmart. I alerted customer service and we walked around the store as I was holding his hand. We finally found his mother. She had left him in the toy department and he couldnāt find her. So he went outside. I was so taken aback. I told her āwhat if I hadnāt found himā. That scared the $hit out of me. Poor thing.
2 likesI also worked at a TG&Y in the 80ās in the toy department. You wouldnāt believe the amount of people who just sent their kids to play there. This was after Adam Walsh was murdered. We had a code Adam in the store for kids that the parents couldnāt find in the store.
One time a man took a little girl in the bathroom and cut her hair and changed her shirt so she would look like a little boy. Fortunately a Code Adam was called and the doors were immediately locked and the mother identified her. It was sickening and terrifying. Just a little while longer and she would have been gone forever.
Parents watch your children. Please!!!
@Barwar plenty of countries let their kids walk home alone. It's not that big. Deal
0 likesAfter everything he did all he could worry about was himself and what was gonna happen to him. Absolute cancer of a human being.
0 likescurious if the detective says something along the lines of mutilation of a corpse..to get him to admit to some form of crime
0 likesSome of these cases I just canāt sit through, itās just these heinous crimes are too much for me to watch.
0 likesI would like to be the bad cop during one of these interviews
1 likeāTori Stafford is all over your car.ā 37:48. That gave me chills.
346 likesIām so sorry for what you went through, sweetheart. Rest In Peace, sweet girl. šš»š
Thereās so much evil in this world, itās unbelievable.
This was the hardest one to watch. Seeing this pile of shit curl up in a corner like he didn't commit one of the most heinous crimes a person could commit is vomit inducing.
1 likeThe sentence is too light 25 years for taking the life of an 8-year-old. In cases like this, the only justice is an eye for an eye in my opinion. There is evidence and no doubt what happened.
0 likesThis investigator is a certified badass. He knows his shit and its really entertaining to watch.
0 likes33:42 SAVAGE entrance.!! āThis is the girl you just killedā and proceeds to throw a picture of herā¦ we all hope he got in prison what he deserves
1 likeAhh, "She just wanted to go home and celebrate with her friends because her mom redecorated her room." That made me cry, that's so sad. It makes me so sad when people have a nice normal life and then something happens that ruins it completely.
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Same š¢ her poor mom and dad
24 likesThat's so sad.
8 likesyeah seriously it always gets me so hard in the feels and gets me crying. god fucking it's so unbelievably sad.
6 likesIs heartbreaking to know that they spent 8 years nurturing and raising a child only for them to be torn away by two cowardly worms
0 likes@Little_hunt3r itās worse when you find out that her mother was suspect number one because of her drug addiction... poor girl just wanted to celebrate with her mum who was supposed to be getting better
0 likesThis man can talk his ass off.
1 like"Get rid of your fuckin' security blanket and start being a man."
1 likeDamn!
"There was no food coming." The way I cackled. It's the least he fucking deserves.
0 likesSick is not the word. They will enjoy that fool in prison. I hope the girl that helped him gets what she deserves as well. It's no good being sorry now ! Evil cow. Rip little girl š
1 likeThis dude's personality pisses me off.
1880 likesHe's has the nerve to be snarky with the detective and is acting like a little child who is being wronged when he literally ruined a little girl's life.
Only worried about himself. Not the little girl, or the worried parents, just himself. Absoulutly disgusting
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He didn't ruin her life, he straight up ended it.
139 likesBring back the death penalty
37 likes@Royal Loyalty the death penalty is useless. Itās a far worse punishment, especially for someone who hurts children or the elderly, to spend the rest of their life in prison with a general population whoāll beat their ass every day. Thereās an episode of I Am A Killer on Netflix where the guy literally says death row is nicer than general population, so he killed his cell mate to get the death penalty so he could live on death row. What kind of punishment is that?
24 likesAnd WAY too many innocent people have been executed. In a world with no discrimination and no dirty cops, maybe we could avoid that. But thatās not the world we live in. The death penalty isnāt a punishment, itās retribution, and itās not even satisfying retribution at that. Itās useless. Pointless.
@Hannah first of all, it's death penalty after 25 years in jail. Second thing, i feel like for some crimes (terrorism, child molester, mass killer, etc) it should be brought back. Depends on the crime, but some crimes are unforgivable, and they didnt show any mercy to their victims . Why feed them forever? Imho its not worth it.
6 likes@Hannah yeah and alot of the offenders unless they are complete sociopaths (which some obviously are) will actually be psychologically destroyed by the memories and knowledge of what they've done and self loathing and regret, while also getting their ass beat in prison for the rest of their lives, A life sentence is many many times worse than the death penalty, I would take the death penalty over 50+ years of sitting in a box anyday.
1 likeI genuinely believe he's innocent. His body language is different than any investigative video I've ever seen. Someone who's innocent would be as outraged as he is. He isn't trying to "look good," but is actually expressing his emotions.
0 likesWell I mean heās a sociopath so he doesnāt have any empathy or sympathy for people. What did you expect from a deranged sociopath?
2 likes@Karolin Dude. I've been emotionally abused from a young age. Give me a break if I struggle with finding the difference between "good" and "bad" people. Yeah, I've let abusive people get close to me because the person who was supposed to be the safest, and who modeled relationships to me (my father) was abusive. How is a child supposed to know? Why would you use that against me? Maybe look at yourself and be grateful for the life you've had to feel so entitled and unempathetic towards other people's flawed world understandings. Jesus.
2 likes@Farmer Fpv Dude, I just told you, or whoever the last person who responded to me, that I could be wrong. I commented that way before I watched the full video. Obviously this is a uninformed guess of a comment. Why are you taking it so seriously fam?
1 like@Farmer Fpv You must have not been the original person responding to me because your writing style is different. Maybe you are. Whatever the truth is, no I didn't look into the evidence, and can admit when I am wrong. Can you?
2 likes@Parker Leigh ruined it then took it
0 likes@Hannah
1 likethat's because the death penalty is a lengthily and costly procedure now a days but back in the day of rationality you were usually killed the day of or next day after a guilty verdict, none of this death row nonsense and costing tax payers money
@Cotton Candy Kawaii it's takes billions of years for dna to even start to decay
0 likes@Hannah giving a murderer free room and board for life is no deterrent to the next monster who has nothing to lose. Death penalty is a deterrent to the cowards who committ these atrocities.
0 likes@Hannah Punishment is retribution. Personally, I feel better knowing these f#%$s are gone, but sure, I get innocent people get caught up in the system, and it takes many years a millions to get someone executed.
0 likesI wonder if thereās a solution, like a higher standard if evidence for death penalty.
@cloudzinmyize it was part of the strategy. Toronto has the best behavioral psychology division in the world. It wasn't coddling. It was disarming and lowering defenses. JCS mentioned this in the video.
0 likesit's not like it'd be any better if he was honest and mature about it. like, yeah he's evil, doesn't matter what attitude he had afterwards.
0 likes@Cotton Candy Kawaii Yeah, my comment was ignorant
0 likes@Synaesthesia Nah, you're right. My comment was ignorant with only the information provided in the video. I've already addressed this with the 5,000 other people who immediately bit onto my comment with viciousness. I already admitted the ignorance, and appreciated your comment for being informative, rather than just downright hateful. But then I realized you were being sarcastic by trying to imply I'm so stupid, that I must be disabled. To counter, your comment was ignorant in not taking the time to read my replies and multiple acknowledgments to my mistake.
0 likes@Rina Sakurai I appreciate your comment. I am aware, and didn't need random people on the internet to tell me about my mental state. I was the one who divulged the information I did because I was already aware of the issue. You're right though, and I'm glad I became aware of it early in life before anything worse happened. :)
0 likeshe didn't just ruin the life, he snuffed it out
0 likes@colorado121 whenever people say ālocked up on public fundsā itās clear they donāt understand how the death penalty works. Maybe itās different in Canada, but in the US youāre already going to spend many years on death row, being fed on public funds. While in addition going through many lengthy and costly trials because youāre putting someoneās life on the line. Again this is paid for by public funds, making the entire process MUCH more expensive than life in prison. Plus most of the time the sentence will be overturned anyway. Like someone else said this isnāt the medieval era, a person sentenced to death will not be executed the next day. Even though these cases are dragged out to ensure the wrong person isnāt killed, it happens anyway. Life in prison is not only a worse punishment, itās cheaper, so the death penalty literally benefits no one. Except people that somehow think killing someone is somehow a worse punishment than letting them torment themselves in prison.
1 like@Matt Farrell That's why when a death penalty verdict is sent down the person should be scheduled for an execution date shortly after. None of this waiting for years BS.
1 like@Sophia Troanska I just read this whole thread and am quite appalled by the childish insulting and unempathetic blabbering of all these people, especially after you shared a snippet of your personal life. They blamed you for being the victim and that's really gross. This all started from an innocent guess with no serious intent, it's crazy how the internet can ruin your mood instantly.
0 likes@Domas Smirnovas i ve read this whole thread, and sophie said she thought he was innocent. a risky thing to say and all the other rubbish is displaced aggression toward the accused.
0 likes@Parker Leigh is nt that pretty much the same thing.
0 likes@Domas Smirnovas Wow. Thank you for your voice of reason. I needed that :)
0 likes@Sophia Troanska I gotta say, welcome to the internet! You give away a bit of your personal experience to back up a point, and people are going to go after it like sharks to blood. Ideally you'd have a fair chance to explain your point, but this clearly isn't Oxford- it's a public forum where people are gonna jump on whatever you give them. Sucks, but it is a topic that gets people fired up, child abuse/killing and all.
1 like@Zstead one You right, you right
0 likesThis guyās interrogating is nonstop, draining and giving the suspect no time to think up lies to believe. Heās like a psychologic pressure fighter. Only the truly deluded or psychotic can withstand that pressure. Then Detective Smyth comes from under the ring with a chair!
0 likesI know were here for the analysis, but if i wanted anyone to have the worst possible death in imagination-it would be this guy.
1 likeFull manifestation of a spirit right on the yellow blanket at 38:00
2 likesmany others throughout the interview
Oh now look into it I will determine all the way at the end now finally he's hoping as long as he doesn't say anything the news caption will read this man allegedly killed Tori so that would always be in people's mind that maybe it's somebody else, and I blame that on the powers that be for using a alleged all the damn time when you know they did itš
0 likesThe tremendous amounts of research, effort, and dedication that JCS invests into each and every vid is nothing short of remarkable.
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Nuckin Futs Thatās Ruckin Fight!
7 likes@Stig LOL š
3 likesWhile i agree with you whoelheartidly just remember JCS is a team and has been from the beinning. It is not just the narrator.
6 likesDarkRoads Yeah I keep commenting that. And a ājimā is a person being interrogated from what I understand? Hence the name Jim Cant Swim?
4 likesAmen to that. Such a brilliant channel.
0 likesJim Smith was the interrogator of Russell Williams, another notorious case on this page.
0 likesIs the one who was the ābad copā the same interrogator as the Russell Williams case? It sounds like the same guy.
0 likesI hope real justice was served in prison.
1 likeWhen the Detective started Free-Style shit talking him
3 likesI felt that
I could never do this guyās job, trying to play psychological chess with crazy child killers. God bless him for his work
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He'd be catching my hands for a confession, nonstop.
5 likesThat's the rule of the new game.
This patience, these lies "You made a mistake, you regret it, you are no monster..."
5 likesI just said the exact same thing to my wife. I honestly believe it would be easy in most cases to crack them. Most are so self centered and egotistical that you have to stroke their ego normalizing the horrible things they've done offering sympathy while rationalizing all their twisted bullshit to garner a confession. Hats off the guys that do this job. I'm a level headed guy that's hard to anger, but people that hurt babies and the innocent deserve some good old fashion justice.
0 likesBeing a psychologist is never easy
0 likes@Ashton Andrews have you seen these videos. Easy my ass. It takes a special man to manage your emotions while calculating all these tactics
0 likes@Charles Martin III yes I have and I really believe when it comes to human psychology I feel I'm more than well equiped enough. More times than not I can feel someone out in the course of a conversation and realize what makes them tick and what is needed to warrant the response you want. I've struggled with addiction in my past and manipulation tends to go hand in hand with it in my opinion. You can make yourself physically numb to emotions and more times than not you have to use high levels of manipulation to achieve your end goal. Now at this point of my life would I prefer to be in a position where I had to pretend to befriend and show sympathy towards people that are truly evil? I would say hell no due to the emotional toll, but the people who do are amazing for giving families justice and closure.
0 likes@Ashton Andrews k
2 likesRemember kids, whenever youāre being interrogated by anyone always say these magic words anc nothing else āI want a lawyerā
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in canada they donāt have to stop questioning when the suspect calls for an attorney
0 likesHis only concern was for himself. It's so goddamn nauseating.
1 likeI feel for the poor lawyer who got this whimpy dirt bag. I hope he is in prison getting what he really deserves. Eye for an eye. Acting like a spoilt child - blaming everyone else. Coward.
0 likesIf you think prison will be unkind, wait until you see what happens if they release him.
0 likesThe woman said she was sickened by what was going on in the van, so she went for a walk; yet, she was the one that got the girl in the first place. Exactly what did she think was going to happen? Unbelievable.
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She's also the one who beat the girl with the hammer.
304 likesis that true?
15 likes@Grace G ya
13 likesI think he was the one thaat went for a walk while she was the one thaat killed the girl. She has taken his story and made it hers. His language indicate that he is inoccent, I can see no deeption in his Language but I think Peter Hyatt looking at the language to back up my opinion would be a very good idea.
26 likes@Paul Garrett what
163 likes@Paul Garrett you're mad
93 likesshe had so many opportunities to go get help if she was so disgusted by what was happening
35 likesShe thought: in a woman so they wont do much to me.
15 likes@twilit She went along with it, and that is no fucking excuse.
46 likesMen and women alike have been under far worse circumstances and walked the right path. She chose hers.
And wtf was her reasoning!? Like most people do shit thatāll benefit them from it. But why would she help???
13 likes@Paul Garrett speak english
8 likes@Paul Garrett I highly doubt that given your woeful spelling. Forensic statement analysts are linguists, and youāre barely literate.
42 likes@Alex Radice man, all that for drugs š¤¦š¼āāļøš¤¦š¼āāļø
1 like@Paul Garrett yeah and I'm secretary of defense when I'm behind the computer
28 likes@Paul Garrett women do that alot mate
3 likes@Paul Garrett You're delusional
4 likes@Bobby Friday Um, cctv cameras watched her get abducted. Then they found her body. Did you watch the same show I did?
6 likes@Hannah Slabodnik no one can say for sure why she did it or what she gained from it. It could have been she was coerced into it by Michael or she got off to it as much as he did. Some people have weird kinks where they get off to assisting.
3 likes@Sean Matthew King To write up a full analysis here is simply not practical. You are entitled to your opinion, but remember we look at the words used. Because he was convicted does not mean his words are false or that our teams analysis is wrong. This is a complicated science, but when a person says I did'nt do it these are simple words but they are also the most powerful words, the brain cannot allow a lie to come through a guilty person would say, I would never, this is a simple fact but to say, I did'nt 99.9999999999999% of the time this constitutes a true statement , this is a point of fact a guilty person in a stressful situation would have trouble maintaining this, you should watch again knowing this and do a little research into forensic statement analysis then watch the interview again.
2 likes@Paul Garrett and Iām a British president of the United States
6 likes@Nicole X Looking at the words you have used I can see at least 2 mistakes. I can conclude that English is either not your first language or that you did not have a very good education. I can learn this from only 1 sentence, how much more about you could I learn from a few hundered words? Do you see what we mean, the words a person uses tells us so much and the analasys that I did was checked by 3 other analysts, we never rely on only 1 analyst. Give me some more words to work with and I can tell you about yourself.
1 like@Paul Garrett I've ways been interested in what people give away in their words. Can you link me to some good sources I can go to to read and learn more about this? Greatly appreciated!
1 like@Phoe Nix I do actually, I have a masters in English. I'm not ragging at the person I am pointing out that in just a few words we can learn a lot about a person. As for my spelling mistake, maybe you could try writing on a phone during a storm on a small ship in the black sea, just a thought. As a point to note I was not pointing out a spelling mistake, did you see the mistake that shows a poor level of English?
0 likesWomen who facilitate this sort of thing I'm certain have a special place in Hell.
2 likes@Bishonen Princess I did not say poor education, I said they were not a native English speaker. I am sure you would not make the mistake that she made, but I think also you can't see the mistake she made. I will give you a cluse an article was used when every native speaker would know never to use one. I used to teach English until a few years ago when I started statement analaysis. I still teach a little English at university level. Everyone makes spelling mistake, that is OK but grammar mistakes are a definate way to tell whether a person is a native speaker or not. Also I can tell is a person comes from the UK or the US by the type of grammar they use, many people in the US say things like "what are you doing on the weekend" or " What are you doing on Christmas" Notice I said many, not all, but a person born and educated in the UK prior to 2010 will say " What are you doing at the weekend, what are you doing for Christmas". You begin to see the differenc, you would never know if it was not shown to you. So before you jump on me again, do some research first, you must only fight the battles you can win, there is no victory here for you, only a vicious defeat. I do not mean to offend but I am tired of defendin my proffesion. There thousands of us doing this work and we never work alone, there is always at least 2 of us on every case.
0 likes@Paul Garrett "Everyone makes spelling mistake, that is OK but grammar mistakes are a definate way to tell whether a person is a native speaker or not." Okay but did you mean "mistakes" because that seems like a grammar mistake, my dude.
7 likesWe must meet up sometime as we are probably neighbours, where on the black sea do you live? I actually live in Mariupol on the sea of azov but I visit the black sea often. Here we get many storms any wind over 25knots is considered high becaue the sea is very shallow only 13m at it's deepest point. I sail alot, I have my own boat so I know the sea quite well.
0 likesHer own brother calls her out for being a great manipulator ā she (from what we know) falsely self-identified as indigenous to get out of prison and into a healing lodge instead... and she has assaulted other inmates as well. Took major public outcry for our damn prime minister to put her ass back in prison where it belongs. Someone like that is beyond rehabilitation...
3 likesshe's obviously lying
0 likes@Paul Garrett youāre a liar lol
1 like@Grace G yep she killed the girl after he was finished I hope the prison guards put him on the dangerous units even if he has to listen to others tell him what they would love to do with him.
0 likes@twilit nicely said bro .
0 likesyes as she didnt commit the crime herself she was absolutely just as responsible and the only thing standing in the way of this tragedy, and she just let it happen
2 likesā@Paul Garrett "I can conclude that English is either not your first language or that you did not have a very good education."; "I did not say poor education, I said they were not a native English speaker." pick one buddy.
1 like@Paul Garrett He wasn't innocent, he was complicit in the crime.
1 like@Dustin McCoy where did you hear that?
0 likesThat detective has extremely impressive mental discipline. I canāt imagine sitting across from this man and not killing him
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let the trash take out the trash.
23 likesYou wouldnāt do that if you were the detective because then you would be in the suspect chair
13 likesIt's not being a murderer? You should get yourself checked out if you can't contain yourself.
6 likes@Taken_Over stop being edgy. You don't have a right to murder someone for being a sadistic murderer. Leave it to the state.
8 likes@L. Buds yes. Only if they commit crimes or intend to
3 likes@Taken_Over what are you even talking about?
4 likesOh wow real tough guy
2 likes@Jeremy House you have literally no idea my ideology and any attempt to try to understand through one comment of mine is nothing more than pretentiousness
4 likesThat is called murder Timothy. I think a detective would know that's not ok and be SLIGHTLY restainied in his actions.
4 likesIn my mind I've already fed him through my woodchipper 5 times.
3 likespeace union āleave it to someoneā
0 likesWhat ever the detective dose it will not come close to what will happen to him in prison, the detective know that so he does not need to get his hands dirty.
4 likes@Taken_Over unjust cold blooded murder outside of self defense/war is NEVER ok
0 likes@Raymond Marek leave it to the state. If you knew anything about ethics or political justice, the state acts where an individual does not
0 likes@peace union if a pedophile has not acted against a child then no, they donāt deserve to die, the thing is, pedophilia is no just āa thoughtā and they should not be apart of our society and should be locked away and receive help. Pedophiles should not be respected in a anyway shape or form, they do not deserve it. Yes, they donāt need to die if they havenāt acted upon urges, but they sure as hell donāt deserve to live a luxury life without help.
2 likes@Emma Irving you're still not on the ball completely. If they haven't acted on their urges and choose not to, then of course they can be in society. How the fuck are you goin to vet them without knowing? Do you recognise how many people you've come across could have been pedos but no one will ever know it because they never act on it? When did I say it was just a thought? I never said that. I know what it is, it is a mental disorder of the brain, cause is unknown, characterised by large amounts of grey or white matter in certain areas of the brain. If they go to therapy for help they should be placed in a controlled enviroment until they are able to cope with their disorder. Many many pedos do not abuse children. Most sexual abusers of children are not pedos either. Statistical factual data shows this. Its far more complex than anyone here is willing to admit
1 like@peace union itās extremely complex and I agree with you, as someone who went through the Texas-Wisconsin Underground Sex trafficking rail road, for 4 years, I know how these ppl work, though I canāt completely give an explanation why, if a person openly admits āI am sexually attracted to childrenā then I do think they need to be put into some sort of program may that be residential or Co residential. I might have misunderstood what you where saying and I apologize, thatās on me. This topic is very close for me. I appreciate your perspective.
2 likes@Emma Irving no problem, thanks for giving me more context to your situation. The truth is i doubt we'll ever be able to understand how these people work in their heads, though I guess in some sense, that's probably for the best.
1 likeHomeboy was just excited he had an excuse to talk nonstop for two hours
0 likesim sure the detective knows that doing his job will do way more to the suspect than physical force ever could
2 likeshe is killing him.
0 likesIn the US/Canada you are not guilty unless proven so, and even if they have the proof, they can't be the judges, so he needs to receive his charges.
0 likesBecause of that assumption, all interrogators are content and professionals and do not beat the shit our of the suspects.
@peace union howās the view from the non-existent moral high ground?
1 likeāLeave it to the stateā
āYou are a sadistic murderer if you kill a child rapist/murdererā
Listen here man, you need a reality check, men get arrested
Dogs get put down
Mfs in this thread really are like āi would never kill a child rapist cus thats not cool and murder is bad >:(ā
1 likeIām 10000000% sure that if it were your child who got their innocence taken from then before the same monster took their life after being done with them, you wouldnāt act like this āsaint who will let the law deal with him uwuā, its human nature
Fun fact for anyone curious:
4340 likesThese police sketches are often drawn intentionally to look uncanny and unrealistic because a lot of emphasis is placed on the person's most prominent features to make the more identifiable. In this case, it's her eyes and eyebrows. They do this because it makes the sketch more memorable to people and therefore allows them to easily notice those features if they happen to see the person irl even if only briefly.
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Thank you. To me, the sketches never look like the person but from this point of view, they do.
224 likesbro the sketches scare the fuck out of me its 5 in the morning and I'm not going to sleep anytime soon
154 likesWrong. I draw police sketches for the fbi.
18 likes@Tess Stickels lol
89 likes@Tess Stickels lol
52 likes@taiseer Those sketches are scary as hell and have been for decadesā¦but they seem to get scarier as time goes on. They look almost inhumanā¦alien in some cases, such as this one.
44 likesThat's actually really interesting tbh.
8 likes@Tess Stickels yeah, right..
18 likesSo it's no wonder a lot of it is under question as "racist". Not that I necessarily agree but I can see the argument
2 likes@Tess Stickels I guess people think you're making up what you do because huh well Idk why. Maybe because they think that people who work for the FBI don't watch YouTubešGood argument
11 likesthat kind of of reminds me of the lake bodom murders. the police sketch is like terrifyingly exaggerated looking, but then there's a picture of a potential suspect in the case standing in a crowd of people and he looks Exactly like the sketch. it's super weird, he barely looks like a real person. the side by side comparison is one of the creepiest things ive ever seen.
10 likes@Corinne Givens itās rather because of the lack of information given. they never gave reasons why what they said was wrong and why itās so creepy.
19 likesHer nose too, did you notice that in the picture one nostril is a lot bigger than the other? And in the mugshot you see the same except mirrored. I looked at that and kind of sat back for a minute and thought to myself how cool the concept of police sketches are
14 likesWell, it's frickin scary!
2 likes@My cat is a bastard I just want to tell you I love your screen name & my cat is also a bastard. Pretty sure all cats are bastards lol
12 likes@Corinne Givens hahaha! Thank you, and I agree; deep inside, every cat is an unapologetic bastard, and that is why we love them like we do haha
7 likesCheers bro. That is interesting.
1 likeThanks for that explanation, I never knew why they were drawn so badly
2 likes@taiseer how old are you?
0 likes@Nyika's Place 20š
0 likes@Corinne Givens Probably because their profile pic is a troll picture and the account theyāre using was made two months ago; and last but not least if you were working for the FBI wouldnāt you pride yourself on keeping that information to yourself? Yeah me too.
6 likes@Tal holy FUCK i just looked it up.... that sketch is horrifying oh my god.
3 likes@ema. I didn't know all of that. Yeah I would keep that to myself too. You're right definitely a troll but that's a weird trolly thing to say like what's the point. Some people I guess are just really bored. Hope you have a good day todayšā
1 like@My cat is a bastard Agreed that's why we love them so much. My cat isn't just a little bastard he's also not the brightest. He keeps getting himself tangled up into the blinds on our door. He's learned to bang the blinds against the door to be let out but somehow someway he'll get himself stuck in them then have a full blown kitty panic attack & make it worse. I'm starting to believe the blinds are my cats nemesis & he will conquer them one day. So far the blinds are winning. I crack up everytime he does it. You'd think since he's learned how to bang them against the door to be let out he would've learned to not get his ass tangled up in themš¾š
1 like@Corinne Givens right lol some people have too much time on their hands. āš»
0 likesHave you seen the ones that looks like a kindergartner drew them though?
0 likesYour cats a bastard?? Mines a bastard AND a freaking HARDENED CRIMINAL!I have older cats, but got this 2 year old orange male cat. First thing he did...after finding out where the litter box was he now hides outside the bathroom, when another cats strolls out after using the litter box- he jumps out, mugs them and races off. The other cats only use the litter box with a partner now, to avoid being mugged by criminal cat! I could write a book about all the crazy crimes this cats committed, it NEVER ENDSSSSS!!
2 likesCats ARE great though
Very cool. Thank you.
0 likesThatās just not true. It would only be possible to do this if the perpetrator is already known to the police and the sketch artist knows what the perp looks like and therefore which features are most prominent. Most sketches are created from witness interviews, and the artist is trying to replicate what the witness is describing. The witness signs off on the final sketch which goes into the case file and the docket for court. The reason why sometimes these sketches look weird is because we are not always great at remembering details accurately. Try to describe a stranger you saw for a few seconds when passing them on the street or in a store last week. Chances are your recollection will not be 100% accurate.
4 likesā@Scarlet Gracex it wigged me out so bad the first time i saw it. easily the creepiest police sketch ive ever seen
0 likesThank you.. Makes sense ;)
0 likesThat sketched looked like micheal Meyers š
0 likesYeah but I've seen some sketchy sketches back in my day on the force.
0 likesThanks for the info!
0 likesThis one wasnāt too far off from her face
0 likesYes, in a sense they're using caricature.
0 likes@Tess Stickels The irony of your making that claim as your own profile picture looks like a fucking caricature is beyond giggle-worthy.
1 likeCool story to excuse often horrendous sketches
0 likes@Tess Stickels Same
0 likesVery interesting!
0 likes@Corinne Givens look at the profile pic and the nameā¦ add that to the guy that responded to you and there you go
0 likes@Tess Stickels And I'm a doctor Want some free brain surgery I gotcha š¤Ŗ
0 likesBut i think it also has something to do with the fact that when they draw those, they might not have much information about the suspect, and nobody at the police department is payed nearly well enough to make a perfect drawing of someone's face.
0 likes@Sketchy Characters & Crime well said! Thank you! Looks like you are a sketcher? I just subscribed you!š
0 likesWe need to teach our kids that women can be monsters, too. It's not just the creepy guy in a trench coat trying to lure you from the playground or the guy in the white van with no windows. It can also be the nice lady that looks like your sister that has a puppy. It can also be the sweet old lady that offers you toys.
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You touch it with a needle.
4 likes@jsfields00 she's talking about the woman who lured the girl with the "Puppy" and don't generalize a whole nation because you misinterpret a sentence
155 likes@jsfields00 lmao she was saying how we need to teach children to be fearful of anyone, this guy used a woman to lure a child because children generally trust women without second thought because of feminine traits. She wasnāt blaming the child lol the child did not know any better hence her comment
121 likesI wear a trench coat and drive a white van I resent this comment. Iām into women and dogs not children!
23 likesTrueee!
1 likeIt needs to be made clear that all kinds of people can be monsters. Be it the party dude or the quiet librarian chick; anyone can be a monster.
16 likesI think all we need is just to look at people more objectively, especially in something like court. The whole "shorter sentence, higher probability for custody" etc. purely based on gender just needs to be removed and then we're already making grand steps towards objective justice.
Unless the circumstances absolutely demand it, men and women just need to be treated as exactly the same, no ad- or disadvantage for either of them.
Also, your "old lady with toys" story, reminded me of that caretaker who just hung a child in her basement and then got off basically scot-free.
@bankrollbill LOL sorry for the generalized statement. But you know what I mean
7 likes@jsfields00 she didnāt say that
3 likes@Natasha Wilson I know just playin
3 likesI think Iām in love with you maāam
0 likesMaybe if the current political climate didn't hyperfocus on all men being potential rapists & abusers, we could look at the world of violence & exploitation more objectively.
5 likeshi sorry tori knew teri lynn it was not her fault
0 likesAbsolutely
1 like@jsfields00 wtf how was she saying that?
3 likesWhen I was in I think first grade we were actually taught anyone can be a predator. The teacher would show a picture of a doctor and a picture of a shady looking guy and ask who was dangerous or something. Then when everyone would say the shady looking guy she revealed that it was the doctor, policeman, teacher, or just a nice looking person. The teacher also showed that not only men but women can be predators too. Iāve remembered it for over a decade (Iām 17 now) so I know that it was effective. I wish every kid could have gotten this lesson because I feel like it really could have saved a lot of lives.
13 likesIt is really hard to get the danger across to a child as they don't really know how cruel people can be and just saying people are evil won't really mean a lot to a child
1 like@jsfields00 She didn't blame Tori but most parents will say don't trust strange men which is why Michael used a girl to get the girl
4 likesIndeed. I was almost lured away by a woman as a child with a "puppy" story too until my teacher noticed and scared her off. To look at this video and realize it could've been me is kind of terrifying
4 likes@EoCA Ya I grew up in a very small village with a max of 200 people so everyone knew everyone it wasn't uncommon to have people that lived near me take me home if they saw me walking home.
3 likesYears later I can see how dangerous of a mindset that was if someone had said oh I just moved in 5min away from you let me take you home I don't think I would have given a 2nd thought to getting in the car with them
@Alex well by that logic don't talk to anyone, how will you know if someone is safe if you never talk to them or say anything? That's just teaching us to be more socially distant from everything
1 likeWhich makes this world even more scary šØ
0 likes@Lost Signal yeah but don't be so overprotective of your kids, my parents could learn this god damn it
3 likes@Alex well I mean I guess, just saying parents are way to overprotective nowadays when kidnapping and etc is so low basically everywhere you only hear it a lot cause it's negative and that's how the news makes attention and money
1 like@Alex well don't tell kids everyone is bad they will generalize everyone to be some evil person besides your family that's not good
1 like@Safwaan true
1 like@bankrollbill that's gross and illegal in most states and an act of animal cruelty
3 likesIts also the creepy guy in a trench coat trying to lure you from the playground with his white van without windows
0 likesTeaching kids that people can be monsters has been proven not only ineffectual at protecting them from stranger danger, but to damage them socially and emotionally.
1 likeScared kids get abused/abducted. Being confident and happy is the best defence a child can have. Undoubtedly the girl was reluctant to go with this woman. If she was scared at the same time, that is why she would go along. This woman wasnāt going to physically snatch a child.
FACTS GIRL
0 likes@bleach well everyone knows that, but it's mainly men who do that. But they're has to be a line between predator and trusted adult, you don't sssume every adult does this cause of a few negative things about it you've seen on media
1 like100% AGREE!!! I tell my kids; āMEN and WOMEN can and will kidnap youā.
1 like@Annelee Klein yes but not all, you have to make them know that some may be dangerous, but most are fine. Think about it, we have gotten so overprotective of our children they don't even know how to approach the real world, we don't teach them to stand up since we do it for them, we don't let him fight and everything cause we do it for them. it's quite dumb, people for generations used to let their children out and they would come back fine, what is the problem now? Caused you watched 1 too many kidnapping stories? It's only reported because it's negative and because it makes good news, since if you see something more often your brain will sort of see it as more common than it really is, our Brains distort basically everything out of proportion
0 likes@Lakustaa S true, we shouldn't stop them from being around them. We should teach them how to stop them and what to do, they need stand up for themselves or else they depend on others
0 likes@jsfields00 you muppet.
3 likesThank you for saying this.
0 likes@riglancer yeah thanks, it is good to teach our children that they're is bad people in the world, but we have to also show them people can be good. You don't who will be your friend and enemy until you approach them and see how they act.
0 likes@pau l not all states fool!
0 likes@Safwaan Agreed, learning who to trust is HUGELY important. Always assume strangers are out to get you, until they show you they aren't.
0 likes@riglancer yeah
0 likes:/ very sad
0 likes@jsfields00 No, thatās not what she was saying.
1 likeRead what she said again if you need to.
@Cadence Schuster [Student] it's hard to know cause not all of them go to therapy cause they're so sick they don't think they have a problem
0 likes@Safwaan well better to tell ur kid not trust anyone then to let ur child to be oblivious and vulnerable to getting attacked
0 likes@Annelee Klein that's a smart thing to teach ur kids no matter how nice and friendly they look u cant trust anyone
0 likes@Safwaan as an adult I can't even differentiate who's bad and who's safe so im sure it's best to keep kids safe and not talk to any strangers
0 likes@jsfields00 I have no idea how you misinterpreted that so bad
1 like@minikui kowai desu well you probably weren't taught it and don't have good skills to figure it out
0 likes@minikui kowai desu well you also teach them that some are good, they will think all strangers are bad and generalize it from a few bad experiences and pass to their kids and mess their lives up too
0 likes@minikui kowai desu well you should tell them that there are good strangers who do care for you so if they get in that situation they can just tell their friends
0 likesAll they gotta do is look at you
0 likesWomen can be cruel in so many different ways
0 likes@Beter my guess would be that @jsfields00 is perhaps just one of those bitter-types, and canāt help but project that deeply-rooted part of his or herself onto their YouTube comments.. Itās not necessarily ātheirā fault that people like @jsfields00 have a negative mindset or have tendencies to just assume the worst in others. āA lot of bitter people are just bitter because even-meaner-people treated the now-bitter-ones badly in life, or the bitter one mightāve gotten picked on during their younger years. Nvr can know for sure on here š¤·š»āāļø
1 likeIt can be ANYONE
0 likesThanks for bringing gender into this but the phrase "don't talk to strangers" has been existing for decades
0 likes@Willy Wonka how do you like the biden gas prices chump lol
0 likesVery true. But sadly, the VAST majority of the time, it really IS the men who are the monsters.
0 likesFeminism disagrees
0 likesOr... the creepy guy in the trench coat...
0 likes@bt3 good luck clown.
0 likesHast den Nagel auf den Kopf getroffen.
0 likesVery true words, in my teens I was groomed by a 27 year old woman called jasmine that worked as a yoga instructor. Before I knew it she was having her way with me night after night. I still wake up in a cold sweat thinking of her tight body all over me
0 likes@Kenny eek
0 likes@Off-brand minion I'm not racist, I just think everyone should own a few
0 likesand now a days always they can be kids too
0 likes@Andrew Forsleff very true
0 likesFor real it's sad
0 likes@Dakota Ksenia no teaching children to be fearful is terrible and actually what predatory types love! If children are afraid theyāre easy targets because they wonāt say or do anything. What we need to teach children is to be brave and encourage them to be independent and loud and strong so if a predator does try to target them they will have the strength and courage to stand up to them and seek help. Teaching kids to be afraid is basically helping people like this man. I also know from personal experience, encourage children to be brave not just fearful, even though there is plenty to fear, you make them too weak to deal with the realities of the world we live in by doing that.
0 likesThis detective was incredible. Didn't stop talking. Completely broke him down.
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Yet with Paul Bernardo this detective had his tail between his legs and Paul was sitting and talking like a freaking CEO on the table.
11 likes@Toquita The point is to get the criminal to talk.
94 likesHe broke me down, too lol
40 likesDidn't really have any effect though
22 likesWhat are you talking about "broke him down" lol he didn't confess or yield at all. Still, the detective was impressive I'll give him that
38 likesWords cut like a Sword
1 likeDon't know about broke him down. He literally said nothing
16 likes@Zuignap none at all, all about self preservation. I think a lot of people think it's like TV where the bad guy admits everything. Reality is so far from that
1 likeAnd not once, did the detective stutter or get tripped up over his words. Amazing. I don't know how he sat in the same room with that evil sack of s%it and not punch him. It kills me how Michael is whining that he is hungry, etc. as if he is now the victim. He makes me sick. Thanks for listening to me rant.
8 likesācompletely broke him downā
15 likeswere we watching the same interrogation here?
He broke me down I'm ready to confess just to stop him from talking
23 likes@fā¢rā¢iā¢eā¢nā¢jā¢iā¢e I think they meant that the detective broke down any chance Michael had to prove himself innocent, had him crying and shaking and everytime Michael tried to say that he didnāt do it it was immediately shot down. It was clear he was guilty.
10 likesBroke me down too
0 likesHe is talking like a machine gunš
4 likes@ShutUpKetchup this comment. I thought it was just me. š¤
0 likesI am confessing too . The detective definitely broke me
3 likesHe didn't brake shit down
1 likeHe did NOT break him down. Where was the break down? He denied his involvement throughout the interview.
2 likesDetective is a legend šŖ
0 likesAmazing detector :)
1 likeYou were saying this as a joke right? Because he didn't break down shit. He got absolutely nothing out of this killer. i kept waiting, but this was so boring to watch. The only satisfying part comes in the last 10 minutes when the the other detective just treats him like a bitch and keeps calling him Mikey and enjoy a room like this for the rest of your life!
0 likesFor a 28 year old man, he has an incredibly juvenile way of handling himself. He has the attitude of a emo teenager, rolling his eyes and acting like they have no idea what's going on. Obnoxious vile human.
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He's 28? No way
50 likesIts fake lol. Sociopaths think they can fool everybpdy
71 likesHe's embarresd what you think?
1 likeZachary Odom Huh? Saying heās embarrassed doesnāt mean you feel bad for him. I mean I donāt think embarrassed is the right explanation but if it was saying that wouldnāt mean I have sympathy for him.
59 likesIf you can even call him human.
4 likesI thought he said he was 20.
0 likesYouāre right he mustāve been 28 as it said he was 31 when found guilty.
1 like@Zachary Odom fragile ego you have there, chill
6 likesEveryone is so quick to throw out the word sociopath. Let me make this clear. Just because someone did a violent and awful act does not mean they are a sociopath. Let me also make it clear that I am in no way excusing this pos dude and his actions.
13 likesHe's been given everything in his life with no consequences. He only knows pity for himself
2 likes@Zachary Odom WTF!
0 likesI was just thinking that he really talks like a toddler
0 likes@Aspen Hunter Please donāt diagnose ppl yourself
0 likesYou gotta understand he is going through early stage heroin withdrawel as this interrogation is happening
3 likes@Shabazz maybe yeah but I think his behavior is basically what his lawyer told him to do
0 likesi can't comprehend how people like him dont feel embarrassed...
0 likesHeās mad Bc the detective was ābarking at himāā¦.
0 likesAs if he didnāt just kill a childā¦. Sickening.
@MrCaw77 I know what you mean, ppl throw about sociopath & NPD & it's cringe af
0 likes"Ontario police have one of the most highly trained criminal psychiatry units in the world"... watching this, absolutely agree. The detective doesn't make a single misstep and just talks. Brilliant
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I need this guy to coach me...no awkward silences anymore
136 likesI have a bit of a problem with sensory overload - I would have to have talked just to shut that detective up!
66 likes*forensic psychiatry
10 likesI can barely speak a sentence before I run out of talk lmao. This is torture for sure. Itās pleasant but annoying.
51 likes@J Arnold yes, exactly, thank you
3 likesOh trust they do . I did a crime when I was younger not anything this worse or near close at all but they beat you down with words and at one point you just try to get out of there and just say what happend
18 likesDidnāt this detective do the Russell Williams interrogation as well?
8 likesbut failed to let him speak, in india they do 3rd degree like horrible, u feel pain but no visible wounds to look on his body, no such video recording. in some gang rape cases they take you to crime scene at 3 or 4 am for recreating scene, then they shoot u, saying they try to flee.
4 likesactually initial beatings push the suspect into shock and start confessing all crimes not only this one he integrating for.
@Tom Sawyer sure you are, Tom Sawyer
2 likes@Debj Watson aw, he murdered my friend's stepmom
0 likes@Tom Sawyer Nope. All cats are beautiful.
2 likes@kpkdhar 36 And then just hope they got the right guy?
7 likesYou are aware that violence and torture is just as likely to produce false evidence as people will admit to anything to get out of it, even things they haven't done.
@Tom Sawyer yeah of course you are Billy Liar.
1 like@CB Because it's not about "getting something out of the guy"...none of these videos are.
7 likesIt's about a look into criminal psychology and how different people react.
I thought the exact same thing. This type of interrogation is brilliant.
0 likes@Corvidae im responding to the OP, thanks
0 likes@CB And?
0 likes@CB Calm down kiddo.
0 likes@Corvidae youre the one trying to force a conversation
0 likes@CB Yes how dare I respond to someone posting in a public place on the Internet :p
1 like@Sheila Boston I have a brain injury: I don't pick up on when to keep my mouth shut & can't lie to save my life. I woulda just been arrested and then told them everything, right down to the last detail. Well, I wouldn't have done it in the first place, but I digress. It's just interesting to see how others who aren't a freaking psychopath would react to this interrogation.
0 likes@Tom Sawyer what mistakes did you think he made?
0 likesThe detective....my god. Without hyperbole, this guy might be the best who ever lived. Insane.
3 likesExcept they didnāt get anything out of the guy. How is this any good?
1 like@MoeJuggler How? He literally did nothing. He rambled on, they brought the girl in and the murderer did not even move an inch. These guys completely failed. There are other JCS interrogations that are faaaar better than this.
1 like@Esteban Ā @EstebanĀ I'm specifically talking about the original interrogator, but just because he failed to get a confession doesn't mean he did nothing. His "rambling" is stronger than the rest of the detectives I've seen on here, faaaar stronger.
0 likesGiven the depravity of the offense, he remained verbose without ever giving into emotion or missing a beat. S+ tier.
@MoeJuggler If there is any measure of the effectiveness of a strategy, it is the cold hard results of getting confessions. This detective did not get a single inch worth of ground from the murderer. Other detectives here have employed less flashy strategies and they have managed to get confessions out of worse offenders than this guy.
0 likesCan tell this dude is a criminology surgeon, truly fantastic to see in action.
0 likesIt feels like he's channeling Joe Pera to crack him with kindness.
0 likesAnd you are qualified to judge their qualification? Whether they made a missteps or not?
0 likesWhat? They didn't get anywhere!
0 likes@Sheila Boston like an argument on the Xbox lmao. They probably took into account the type of person Michael was and how he was acting in the interrogation room. They would probably prepare for a person who would be more likely to argue back more aggressively (I.e cliff).
0 likesEven as an attorney this guy would give me a challenge !
0 likesImagine it from Tori's point of view: Excited to be off school and even more so to see a cute puppy, completely blind to the horrors of this world as all children should be...only to have the next few hours full of pain and suffering not knowing why this grown man is doing these things to her. Children are innocent and pure and those who corrupt them deserve a fate worse than death
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Itās terrifying, Iām afraid to have kids in case I lose them to someone like this.
124 likesCanāt read everyoneās minds, but I think that is the default.
2 likesDeath is only merciful if you're under the delusion of atheism. Go look up a few hundred NDEs from people who died in unrepentant sin and got a glimpse of what awaits people like this. You can say you don't believe it, but what you can't do is find a person who's been through it who wasn't permanently scared straight and turned into a lifelong believer in God & the afterlife afterwards.
16 likesWell said. I agree.
1 like@somexp12 I don't see any point in letting child rapists/ murderers hang around.
4 likesIf someone was going to be convinced of their own sinful nature and their need for repentance, I would think it would happen somewhere around the immediate vicinity of where they just found themselves standing over the corpse of the child they just raped & murdered.
If that isn't going to do the trick, I don't see what the next 30 or 40 years in prison is going to do.
Besides, I always just sort of assumed that most unrepentant sinners would probably start to have their "come to Jesus moment" sometime between the time when they find themselves dying and when they've found themselves still conscious after death.
Let's just hope for the sake of most child killers & atheists that that's enough for God.
stopp i'm actually about to cryy :((((((
0 likes@somexp12 There are bleeding hearts that advocate for light punishment for these creeps. They make excuses for them. They blame their childhood, getting bullied in school, getting molested as a child themselves... whatever will have a chance of getting the courts to pity the defendant. It's sick.
3 likesJust thinking about it, my chest is beating rapidly!!!!!!
0 likesWhen I was a kid I'd probably do anything to see a puppy.
0 likesEven worse, she felt bad to leave her mommyās earrings perhaps she took them for show and tell. I remember those days. I remember being a kid. And it is so sickening that these punks canāt find women their own age to be with that they take a childs innocence and life š
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0 likesI couldn't read past completely blind to the horrors of this world I knew what was coming, have you seen his appeal its disgusting what he tried to get away with.
0 likesThat's exactly what most of people are doing to a whole generation of children through "vaccination". No better than this guy.
1 like@First Last š
12 likes@Monkey One yeah child rapists donāt get too far in prison.
1 likeAs a father, this hurt to read.. literally feel sick watching this fucking guy...
2 likesI have a different view of children, and before anybody try to cancel me or something, listen
1 likeI'm still very young ; i'm 14 years old.
In primary school, i was the same big kid as i am now ; too tall, just a little bit fat, and very energic
And others childrens made my life worste than hell for 8 fucking years. Of course i would not want anyone i knew to suffer like that little girl
But i don't think childrens are innocent. It's by childrens i was traumatised, and because of them i now can't talk to someone my age, or look in anyone's eyes.
Childrens teamed up on me, hurt me physically
So no, childrens are not the little angels you seem to see them as
yes you're so right. i will never understand this disgusting sick vile desire for children. and then going out and harming them in these awful ways. taking their innocence and even their life. its so awful. it happens too often. people who do things like this deserve to be eradicated
4 likes@loveinspace Sorry, that happened to you. Unfortunately, that is often the case now a days and I am very away of that. I believe that more often then not it's the environment the kids grew up in that causes them to become that way. Or it's a common case of the bullied turning bully. I think all children start innocent but get as they age and are faced with different ideals, views, and people on both sides of good and bad, it shapes their personality into something often not what we want or hope. Just as Tori was convinced so easily in the video, many kids are gullible and will see adults doing hurtful and abusive stuff (possibly to them) and copy it, not knowing of how much pain it causes until they either grow up or pay the consequences
1 like@Cyber it can be the environment, but it does not remove the fact that everyone has probably hurt someone before
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0 likes@Monkey One This doesn't actually happen lol.
0 likesPrisoners like this are typically housed in lower security prisons because they have fairly low levels of chances of escape. Encouraging riots and violent behavior just means the COs need to break out the shotguns more often, like in PNM in '80, when COs were overwhelmed by a prisoner riot and raped/murdered by inmates. Death penalty is fine for most crimes honestly. Keying cars and breaking windows can get birching or 5 to 10 lashes of the scourge (fewer for females, of course, they are weaker), drug crimes such as "snorting coke", "shooting heroin", and greater can get death pretty much immediately, as can things like automobile theft.
That should stop most crime in its tracks. It would require a streamlined and more efficient judicial system based on local justice and village courts rather than top-down, bureaucracy heavy courts, and it might be prone to slightly more corruption and local politics, but it would encourage people to be aware of who their sheriff is. It works fine for Singapore for instance, so it's not particularly clear why it wouldn't work for a place like Chicago or Detroit. Japan does similar things, although it doesn't kill as many people as Singapore, and it barely has any child rape cases compared to Anglophone countries. I'd imagine stuff like mangas and anime do a fair bit of preventing this, acting in economics like a substitute good.
Crimes like rape, murder, etc only happen because people at large let them happen through incoherent and bizarre policies. It's pretty clear, looking at murder and rape statistics, that Anglo countries like America, Britain, Australia, and Canada are pretty much African relative to Japan or Singapore, but that's because Japan and Singapore have congruent policies that make sense.
@Elyria So your solution for the problem of evil is just to say the little girl was raped & killed for no reason then.... that makes everything all better in your mind? Let's just get rid of the employee and the manager altogether, that'll make your piss soup taste a whole lot better.
2 likesAll that's doing is adding insult to injury. Along with not making any sense whatsoever.
Amen
0 likes@BillyJack85 "Listen to a few hundred"? You make it clear from your comments you haven't even listened to ten. Especially not those that challenge your bias; I'd bet dollars to donuts that you've had multiple people tell you you're incorrect, that your inexperienced beliefs do not infact line up with reality, and you've ignored them all because you wish to remain naive. Because it's easier.
8 likesWhat can be worse than death? Torture?
0 likesHell is real. Here on earth and later. He has no idea how bad prison is, but he knows about what happens to child sex offenders...
1 like@š¾šššš®šššš Try to understand that when I say you can't find people who have had NDEs yet remained atheist, that I'm talking about indepth NDEs.
0 likesPlenty of people have NDEs and don't change one bit.
A comment like this just shows you don't understand what actual NDE research shows.
Guys like you are a dime a dozen... I run into you all the time on YouTube. You don't know Jackshyt about NDEs. And that's because they terrify you. Why would you research something that shatters your worldview? You wouldn't. And you haven't. Which is exactly why you think it strange that all you experienced during yours was a sunset.
Next to people experiencing absolutely nothing at all, your experience is the next most common.... which is comprised of people reporting floating above their bodies, seeing a tunnel or a bright light, having feelings of peace or contentment, seeing dead relatives, or some other transitory, intermittent experiences that may generally change their beliefs on life after death, but don't really affect their overall worldview.
These aren't the experiences I'm referring to when I say there's no such thing as someone remaining atheist after an NDE.
In a study of NDEs in cardiac arrest patients published by the Lancet, only about 7% of people who experience clinical death even have an NDE... and out of those, very few have indepth NDEs that completely transform their worldviews/ religious beliefs.... so obviously not everyone who has an NDE renounces their atheism.
This is a mischaracterization of what I said.
Something else that proves you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about is the fact that you think NDEs "only show what people are most predisposed to believing in, in order to protect themselves from further harm."
This is patently ridiculous, ignorant, and it flies in the face of all of the hellish NDEs that people have.
And it's not just Christians or Muslims or other people who are predisposed to believing in hell that have hellish NDEs, but atheists and Buddhists who don't believe in any form of eternal punishment for sin.
So you obviously don't know what you're talking about on any level.
And something else that separates the indepth NDEs that I was referring to from your garden variety NDEs that are indistinguishable from a dream or an hallucination is something called hyper lucidity.
The type of NDE you had where you can't tell whether you had an NDE or a dream is not the type of NDE I'm talking about.
The type of NDE I'm talking about is described by the people who have them as being realer than every day waking reality.... meaning their level of consciousness is greater than normal waking consciousness.
This kind of experience is unprecedented and in no way explainable by modern science or what we know about the brain.
There's no reason why a dead or dying brain that's deprived of oxygen should or would be capable of giving people greater consciousness than the waking consciousness people experience when their brains are functioning normally.
But like all atheists, this information terrifies you and puts your worldview in jeopardy, so you'll no doubt be forced to try to explain it away or ignore it, but the implications speak for themselves.
Now that we've put what I said in its proper context, you can feel free to go find an indepth, hyper lucid NDE from an atheist or anyone else that didn't transform them into theists.
You're not gonna be able to, but you're free to go waste your time trying.
As far as my naive beliefs go, if I was merely looking for something comforting to believe in, I'd no doubt be an atheist. If there's a worldview more naive or comforting than believing you can do whatever you want in life and then just blink out of existence upon physical death without having to worry about any kind of justice, I'm sure I haven't heard of it. Trust me when I say, I'd LOVE to be an atheist.
Unfortunately, along with not making any sense, it sounds way too good to be true. I wouldn't bet donuts or dollars on it, let alone my eternal soul. But I can definitely understand why people like you would want to.
I'm just not that optimistic... or that foolish. Neither are the thousands of atheists who have actually experienced physical death and found themselves still conscious.
Instead of pretending to be an expert you ought to go give a listen to a few dozen of them at least and see what they actually have to say.
Or you can keep being ignorant.
It makes no difference to me.
Besides the command from our Lord & Savior to share the Gospel and to tell my fellow man about the peril they're in out of love for them, I don't have to worry about the bed that atheists & other nonbelievers are making for themselves. You're only hurting yourself. And I'm more than good with sitting back and letting us see who was right & who was wrong in the end.
So if you have nothing else to add we can leave it there.
@BillyJack85 Nice malding novel you wrote there, really speaks for itself. I can tell that meeting someone who knows more about the subject than you really shakes you to your core. You're projecting your lack of knowledge onto someone who actually experienced what you're claiming to know about. You can't get more indepth than having your heart stop & be restarted later on. Enjoy your life of sad naivety <3
6 likesI did my best to handle calmly this video but l break over your comment. It squeezed tears out of my eyes. I am 42, father of 2.
1 likeā@Flamur Miftari Yes, at least that's what I have in mind. We should have a torture penalty for monstrous crimes like child rape. The kind of torture should mirror what was done.
2 likesObviously there are all kinds of practical and ethical issues with this, it's just what feels right to me personally
@š¾šššš®šššš Yes, I'm terrified by the NDE expert who said he had an hallucination of a sunset and who didn't even know how common his own lack of experience was. You got me.
0 likesYou're not fooling anyone with your posturing, least of all me. I highly doubt you're even buying your own BS. You have to know how stupid you sound right now. Having your heart stop and experiencing what you yourself describe as an hallucination of a sunset and not an NDE does not an NDE expert/ researcher make you.
And considering the cardiac arrest study published by the Lancet and how many other people are having NDEs, it doesn't even make you unique.
You're arriving at conclusions that have nothing to do with the actual data.
And going by the NDEs that I'm actually referring to (hyper lucidity), you didn't even have an NDE.
Like all other atheists, you're rushing to judgment on NDEs without knowing anything about them, purely to protect your worldview. You don't know anything about them, and what's worse is you don't want to know anything about them. You just want your preconceived notions verified for you. Which is made all the more sadder by the fact that you people are constantly touting the scientific process and letting the data speak for itself instead of trying to make reality fit your own narrative.
All you're really doing at the end of the day though is losing out on an opportunity to learn something new that you didn't know before. Along with making yourself look stupid.
But like the saying goes, you can lead an atheist to water but you can't make them drink. So you go ahead and keep playing the fake expert and making sweeping generalizations & conclusions about NDEs & the afterlife based on the "sunset" you seen, ignore all of the other evidence, and find out for yourself how foolish you were when it's time to actually die and meet your maker for real. I have no time to argue with wannabe smart guys with zero integrity. Hit me up sometime if you actually feel like having an actual conversation and discussing the real evidence.
as all children should be? no they should be exposed so they know how the world works. sheltering your children like that is terrible parenting
1 like@BillyJack85 Simmer down, child - the adults who actually have experience are talking. =)
0 likes@Dylan i think the death penalty should be the way they killed someone is the way they died
0 likes@Cody Levesque You've got it the wrong way around buddy <3
0 likes@š¾šššš®šššš well i couldnt read all the comments cause i was on my phone so it was basically a legit question cause all i saw was you spazzing out over a youtube video
0 likes@Cody Levesque You should really read all the comments, then. Preconceived bias & cherrypicked testimonies do not equate to knowledge nor experience.
2 likes@š¾šššš®šššš and big words doesn't mean you are smart.
0 likes@Cody Levesque Don't*
0 likes@š¾šššš®šššš good for you trying to put on a persona
0 likes@Cody Levesque ?
2 likesthis shit really does write itself š¤£š¤£š¤£
You've obviously not studied criminology
1 like@Bobby Dee why would anyone have to study anything? they are on youtube they are automatically experts on everything
0 likes@BillyJack85 Simmer down, child - the adults with actual experience are talking.
0 likes@BillyJack85 I do wanna leave you with one little nugget of advice, though, since you've given up - one you've clearly failed to learn due to your lack of parental involvement, but it's this: Don't talk on things you know nothing about. ESPECIALLY don't talk down to people with more experience than you on said topic. I hope this has been a learning experience for you & helps you finally pick up growing as a human once again <3
0 likes@Cody Levesque true, forgot the internet grants omniscience, praise the omnissiah
0 likes@Bobby Dee yeah didn't you know since we on youtube im an expert in the field of science
0 likes@Cody Levesque what a strange coincidence, I'm a theoretical physicist who won the Nobel prize a few years ago
0 likes@Bobby Dee oh shit eh what a coincidence i was there too
0 likes@Cody Levesque yep I'm also a lawyer, judge, politician, military general, opiate addict, mental health nurse, psychotic episodes sufferer, massive self harmer, a baseball professional, been with killers watched stuff like that happen and have it happen, graped as a child and beaten, cut and burnt and inserted with all funny types of things, paramedic, massive serial offender, astronaut, space marine, charity volunteer, hopeful student, an SCP, a religious deity and basically just god itself but you are probably something similar, it's funny plane of existence sometime āŗļø
0 likesOn a serious note some of them are actually true a lot false lol š¤£
@Bobby Dee yeah i was only the big bang. nothing serious
0 likes@Cody Levesque yeah Im existence itself you know, don't get me wrong that was a big inflation that was like randy Orton and came outta nowhere, but yeah there are constant infinite big bang's, gets quite sore tbh constantly getting banged
0 likes@Bobby Dee couldn't have said it better myself
0 likes@InkiSpy I agree -rapists are why I believe in the death penalty but I don't think as a human anyone could learn what he did and not want him to suffer first before he died rapists deserve to be tortured they no longer earn human respect especially child rapists there's no such thing as an inhumane punishment for someone who would do this to a child
0 likesHow can you say as children should be in the same breath as someones daughter being used for gratification before getting dumped in a shallow grave. Kids need to know monsters are real. Those myths about vampires and fae luring children away to never be seen again were for this
0 likes@BillyJack85 couldnt agree more. Even Anton Lavey repented on his death bed. Its all fun and games until you know its all over and you are about meet the next step.
0 likesI can't imagine that. My brain is not physically able to Imagine such a thing, even though I know it's a true story, my brain interprets it as fiction. I don't think any healthy individual can imagine such a crime being true
0 likes@Mkmf 1 Iām against the death penalty but itās not because I try to find excuses to what these people. I donāt think life in prison is a lighter sentence than death. I want justice to be logical and I donāt believe in āan eye for an eyeā. Justice is not revenge.
0 likesI would understand if this little girlās mother decided to kill this man herself (although I wouldnāt encourage her to do it because of the consequences). But having a state-sanctioned practice of putting people to death to punish those who have murdered isnāt logical. Itās like āI donāt like what you did, Iām judging you for it and Im doing exactly the same thing as you didā.
And the problem is that itās a very emotional debate, especially in the US, one of the last democracies where capital punishment is still in place. And it obviously lacks deterrent effect given the number of crimes in the country.
My position against death penalty isnāt based on leniency or empathy toward the criminals. Thatās usually the argument I hear: āyouāre against the death penalty, then youāre as bad as the criminal who deserves itā and my opponents tend to take a higher moral ground, as if their wish to have the murderer get the death penalty granted them a superior status in the empathy towards the victim and their family. I only think we share the same level of empathy but disagree on how justice should handle the issue.
The accuracy in ādeserve a fate far worse than deathā
0 likes@UNKLEDODA Well when you say "if God exists" you sort of leave that impression... but I didn't really assume anything other than you don't know if God exists. There's nothing wrong with it. I myself was raised like that. I'm just simply telling you that you need to get off of the fence about the issue.
0 likesLots of people are raised "religious" who never really get to know Jesus... they just go to church because that's what they're taught to do.
I know from experience tho that if you genuinely seek God out and look for the truth (as opposed to what you WANT to be true) Jesus will eventually bring you to Himself.
So if you're still looking, then just keep looking. I'm not judging you, I'm not religious, either. I'm simply just telling you the truth.
How many hours do you think this detective practiced this style of interrogation in front of mirror? Almost no ums or "You know". Constant stream of pure pressure. Unreal.
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After binge watching these videos, you can tell who have been doing interrogations for years and really worked on their "style". I am assuming (as someone who doesn't work with police) that a well rounded interrogation/detective team would have multiple styles
114 likesHeās excellent. I felt pressured just watching him lol
86 likesThatās how educated adults speak. Noam sayinā yo?
20 likesI think he's just Canadian
15 likesPure stream of okay and alright'sš
38 likesHe adds okay instead of "ums".
57 likes@Ahzrukhal17 hes putting pressure, but the thing that you feel is the constant sound/vibrations in the background noise.
4 likesI'm Australian , and I'm guessing we'd have a lot of "mates" thrown in there
22 likesLoving it.
1 like@ruce ok and "right?"
0 likesHe says "alright" , "right" in place of "umm"
2 likesI am close to confess "I did it!" and we are only at 0:21:27! He is amazing!
4 likesImagine being his wife. He doesn't just ask how her day was.
1 likeHe uses "okay" instead of "ums" and he doesn't use "you know" because he's not American.
0 likesHere sir, i spot the umm 21:03
0 likesInterrogation goes as long as for continuous 10 to 12 hours just to exhaust them and take their thinking power away
2 likes@Antharis Yeah but "Okay" and "Right?" are questions designed to draw you into the conversation. Or react to it in someway instead of just sitting there like a sniveling mess lol
2 likeslegend has is that the mirror ended up confessing to everything
2 likes@DANIELLE HORVAT Im British, and I'm guessing we'd have a lot of "mates" thrown in there aswell
0 likesāalrightā and āokayā are affirmative words. Much more effective than āumā and āyou knowā
2 likesAlbeit, still filler words, but more effective nonetheless.
Things I've learned from this video;
5918 likes1) We all make mistakes, that why pencils have erasers.
2) We can't turn back the hands of time
3) People will start thinking the worst, it's human nature
4) Mike hadn't eaten since noon
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I love you
104 likesamazing synopsis
90 likesThe Mortonator #4 we were all thinking it
17 likesš
3 likes(5) You can hammer someone right through the floor with the word "okay?" ...
82 likesI am dying laughing
9 likesOkay
7 likesthat was beautiful
2 likesunderrated comment
9 likes6) Mike was cold.
30 likesxD
0 likesand that parking tickets aren't reality
12 likes@nick OK OK OK
2 likes@I make Me anxious'
1 like@Arkadia Moon (5a) ...and "(all) right?"
1 like(10ish) This isn't a parking ticket, this is reality, okay?
15 likes(11) It's also not a "honey do" list from your girlfriend, okay?
(12) Everyone already knows everything, all right?
(13) Mike isn't built to kidnap, rape, and kill little girls, and then get caught and hanged for it.
(3a) Implied: "...unless you and I talk, and then they'll know the worst."
4 likes@David Timmons 14) Its not that simple
6 likesHaha good 1 mate š
0 likesš¤£š
0 likes5) If he could turn back time, he would.
5 likes4 Killed me......(oof maybe not best wording)
3 likesThis guy talks in circles like my high school principal did, makes themselves seem uncertain, especially when they start to say āokā at the end of every sentence, makes itās seem like heās even having to reassure himself. The officer is obviously a good detective or behaviour analyst, but super annoying to the average person listening lol. Probably part of tactics too, breaking him down.
3 likes@Stained Glass I'm sorry if I have offended you with my comment. I meant no offense with my words. I understand the horrific nature of this case, and I am also disgusted by it. I by no means intended to minimize or make light of this story. Forgive me if I came across in this way. I surely would hope that people learned more than "pencils have erasers" etc. However, I do confess that I found this comment amusing when scrolling through the comments section. Again, I'm sorry if I caused offense, but it was never my intention.
3 likes14) 26:32 It's ok to laugh at ridiculous shit the suspect says š¤£
3 likesš¹ššÆš¹ššÆ SHIT U CAPTURED ALL THE GOOD QUOTES!!!!!!
0 likesHe didn't even touch his doughnut š„
4 likes@EmilieArts I was hearing him say it as I read your comment. Such a Canadian thing to say
0 likesMike hardly touched his donut.
5 likes5) Canadians are hospitable AF
4 likesDamn staight
0 likes@Paahl poor mike
0 likesAlso 15 (im pretty sure). Mike only has his credibility.
2 likesLmaooo
0 likesHeās not Paul Bernardo
1 likeLmaoo facts
0 likesYou killed me
0 likesššš
0 likesI learned that raping and murdering a child isn't a parking ticket.
1 likeAlways, " you gotta talk to us or else people might think you're a monster", fing hate that shit.
1 likeYour great
0 likesOkay but that first one hit me
0 likesI'd subscribe to your legal review channel ;)
0 likes14) Clean your room, Bucko
0 likes15) Eh?
Lol this comment is amazing šš
1 likeOkay
0 likes@Random Person yes
0 likesBut what time is it now?
0 likesOmg lol!
0 likes5) All Mike had left was his credibility
0 likes16)(I think ?) Mike has to get that fucking security blanket off to be a man
0 likes@Moon Child 17) Oke Oke Oke *1000000
0 likesBest comment ever
0 likes5) The detective is not sitting across from Paul Bernardo
1 likeU can turn back time if u go faster than light but yes mike hadnāt eaten since noon
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0 likeswhat an incredible person this detective is. can't even imagine sitting right next to someone who took little child's life and acting so patient. i know that's what his job is, but it still blows my mind every single second of this video. he seems so nice talking to literally the last person you would be nice to. the detective is just amazing.
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He's seen way worse, he said that...
9 likesbut he should have kept his promise by bringing him some food.
8 likes@Kay Kay yeah, I agree, that was a bit shoddy - if he had no intention then he really shouldn't have made the offer
6 likes@Tal exactly!!
1 likeThats why you and me couldnt be detectives, buddy:P We wouldnt get shit out of anybody.
9 likesā@Stella Hoenheim thats why i'm not a detective
5 likesI couldn't believe he actually shook his hand on his way out, I wouldn't have touch that hand.
18 likes@Diego I think he did that as a "yeah you're fucked bud" gesture.
14 likesHe's Jim Smyth, the same guy who got Russell Williams to confess. A pro
9 likes@Wojciech Chmiel oh good to know! he's such an incredible person.
1 like@Wojciech Chmiel He likes making empty promises. Promised Russ he'd be discrete , told Rafferty he'd get food. Fuggem !
2 likes@Gordon Alias Me aw poor criminals
8 likes@Miles I was being ironic. It's a thing, here in the UK. Sorry if it went over your head š¤·š»āāļø
3 likes@rabbitss11 he offered probably to seem friendly, that dreg doesn't deserve anything.
3 likes@Seething Walnut His job is to get as much incriminating evidence as possible, being friendly helps with that
2 likes@Sloppy Spaghetti that āmonsterā is still a Human tho
0 likes@Panda I respectfully disagree. Specifically with the point of him not deserving empathy, and not being a human
0 likesIt takes a wolf to catch a wolf
0 likes@Gordon Alias Me I'm in the UK as well, but in YouTube comments I would not be surprised if someone said that seriously.
1 like@Miles True. Ignorance is global š¤·š»āāļø
0 likes@Kay Kay That's a common interrogation tactic. It's a way to deprive the subject of comfort without directly harming them. If they complain, all they can really say is "He didn't bring me my bag of chips like he said" which isn't technically an issue for the interrogator.
1 like@John Williams šš»
0 likes@Gordon Alias Me You forget lying is crucial in his line of work and still legal. Using their own deceptive behavior against them.
0 likes@Honkey Kong There is no reason to be rude to me, just because i have another opinion. Obviously he did something wrong, but IMO he is still a human, and deserves all the rights that comes with being a human
0 likes@GilbertGuy
0 likesNo. When you have tortured and murdered a child, the only right you get is the right to die. I'm not entertaining any horseshit opinions to the contrary.
@Honkey Kong I myself is a strong opponent of the death penalty. But Since ethics is a subjective thing, and we both fundamentally disagree, i see No reason to further this conversation. Lets agree to disagree, Since Thats all we Can really do
0 likes@GilbertGuy
0 likesFair enough.
@rabbitss11 nah man, its part of messing with him
1 like@Kay Kay, yeah that's the part to focus on.......Are you F$cking kidding me?!
1 like@rabbitss11 He already gave the dude a donut, cereal bar, and coffee. He was hardly starving
1 like@Psych except that they knew it was him only thing they needed to know is why. Thats not being falsely accused anymore, you already got caught.
0 likesAnd no i wouldnt go on a killing spree you know why? I value INNOCENT human life and i clearly value it more than you do as you would rather not even give him sentence.
It's a shame we have to keep these people alive
1 likeWas it ever explained (not that there would ever be an explanation) why Terrilynn agreed to lure this sweet girl?? Driving me crazy not seeing any comments talking about it. Was she under threat? A promise of something? WHY DID SHE HELP?!?
0 likesI forgot I watched. Even his lawyer is happy with the verdict of Guilty. I think Tori should of got a lighter sentence, for her part of coming clean and implicating him. I won't name him.
0 likesThat interrogator is like a pro. Just keeps talking and talking and talking right? Just doesnt stop, ok? Just keeps going and going, alright? Non stop for hours, ok?
1 like"This isn't a parking ticket" EVERY FUCKING TIME I LAUGH. Seen this like 20 times.
1 likeAlright I started getting pissed off myself when he said āI donāt wanna lose my life! š„ŗā if I was there I wouldā¦.
0 likesāForget the fact that heās starvingā Starving? Youāve been in that room 1:55 minutes dude not two daysš way play the victim card the whole time buddy.
1 likeGreat work by the detective. He Sounds like bret hitman hart
1 likeIt just seems like lawyering up is the best case for all of these people. The cops out and out lie to these people to get them to confess lol
0 likesHe's sad because he got caught so fast, not because he feels remorses
0 likesHow does this guy accepting food make him look more guilty??
1 likeāSir I assure you I did what I did In SELF DEFENCEā
1 likeI like to think I have a decent grasp on psychology, but this interrogation was on a whole other level. Truly impressive.
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Agreed. It's inspiring to learn more
15 likes"These things happen"
22 likesIt was not impressive, they were utterly ineffective. He didnt say a word to them.
18 likesit was bad what are you on about? Clearly their methods failed hard.
5 likesBut they didnāt even get the confession, which is kinda the point of an interrogation. This was a failed attempt.
6 likesVery impressive. He literally didn't confess. It's the suspect that is impressive not falling for the dumb shit cops try to pull. I've never been interrogated and thought the cops were on my side and just confessing to them would help my case. That's the first bullshit line the cops use too. Just tell us what happened so I can say good things about you so that the public or jury sees your side. That's all bullshit and I would have laughed at them.
5 likesThat interrogator should have brought a microphone with him to drop as he walked out the door.
3 likes@Tor Meyer what does watching anime have to do with this at all?
2 likesStevie Nguyen no a confession is the āgoalā but not necessarily the whole point. What the detective did was wear him down mentally with all this talking hence why he started talking that towards the end. Heās truly the best in the game
2 likesIn a lot of other countries this interview would be classed as leading and totally inadmissible in court, unless they have already admitted guilt, it sounds to me like the interviewer likes the sound of his own voice.
1 like@Stevie Nguyen its criminal profiling ,its not about confession .and how many child killers are was given confession?. show more respect for police work.
1 likeFrankly, I know. That detective also did Russel Williams
0 likesbunch of pseudo psychologists in the comments here fully do not understand the purpose of this profile and obviously have no real experience in psychology at all
1 likeTake a shot every time the interrogator says āokay?ā
1 likeBest documentary channel EVER!
0 likesI miss your channel manā¦ I hate that YouTube keeps fucking you overā¦
11 likesThe detective knows that rapport building sets the foundation for confronting the accused later on.
0 likesWe NEED more videos!!
1 like12:26 - 12:30 I never knew a parking ticket wasn't apart of reality š¤š¤š¤
0 likesThis guyās such a narcissist who doesnāt mind causing fear and pain to people weaker than him, but wallows in self pity when heās the one being controlled!
0 likesIām glad his tea only had one sugar cube inside
3 likesWhat a worm, props to the interrogator. I couldn't resist punching him square on the nose then choking him, make him feel a small percentage of the fear his victim felt.
1 like'That's why pencils have erasers.' Horrific crime committed by literal piece of trash aside, that's a great quote.
0 likesDamn, I definitely wouldn't have been as composed if I was in the presence of such filth.
0 likesāYou donāt know whether to sit here, shake, shit, puke. You donāt know what to do.ā
10 likesBam! Beast mode!
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āYour not built for this shitā lmao š¤£ beast mode indeed.
0 likesThat poor poor baby girl Iām not normally emotional but this case got to me. Hope karma gets them in prison rip baby girl
0 likesTalking this guy into submission is what this guy did.
0 likesSo evil what he did.
2 likes"So you were watching child pornography for hours on end and decided to go try it for yourself, pauses to drink coffee these things happen all the time."
1 likeLmao š¤£
Your commentary is spot on.
1 likeDoes this style of interrogation ever give the suspect a chance to speak?
0 likesāUr not built for this shitā love the detective
1 likeI think I'd confess just to make the Officer stop talking! Does he ever let the perpetrator speak?
1 likeTake a shot everytime the detective says okay. š
0 likes@ 31:33 Micheal says "what a liar"
0 likesAfter the detective says everyone Terri said they had did.
Listening closely, it's either I want a lawyer or What a Liar.
OKā¦OK
0 likesI get it now..keep him confused. Heās really good at what he does. I would not be able to stand up to the onslaught!
I just had an amazing idea. What if interrogators could fill this guy full of LSD and torment the truth out of him?
0 likesYou and Bernardo can make googly eyes at each other all-day or whatever you guys do
2 likes-Det Jim Smyth
This was in CANADAā¦ so I am wondering what did he end up gettingā¦.5 years? 6?
1 likeWas there more going on then we know? Why did the trial take 10 weeks? I thought it would be open and shut case
0 likesPlease tell me the authorities found the poor girl's body and handed it to her parents so she could rest at peace.
1 likeHe talked for so long my voice would hurt and Iād be mentally exhausted from this rant lmao š
0 likesHow manny times did the detective say āOkayā?
0 likesHe mentioned Paul Bernardo, I watched his videos yesterday, wow!
0 likesHave fun in your new home my friend. You will love it there, yet they will not love you back though.
0 likesPut His crime on the main line....
Your Parents raised you right. (YOU) no where the one who chose to do the wrong thing here no one else.
Be honest. You where there. Everything says you where.
D.N.A. never lies. You where there on that day of this positive crime Mike. You know you where and D.N.A. proves that you were.
That detective kicked his ass haha
1 likeIf torrie was my daughter Iād be really mad that they did that to her
0 likesJim was ruthless in the end š
0 likesThis guy is the biggest coward I've ever seen
2 likesthe "bad cop" portion of this interrogation was like pure ecstasy.
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You can tell he almost enjoyed talking down to him I loved it
103 likesPsionic powers. He wrestled his brain into the mud.
26 likesLol im still at the good cop part I canāt wait until the bad cop part
100 likes@Matt Welsh its great
10 likesMatt Welsh good cop "alright".bad cop"ok"...
7 likesThat's because you are naturally sadistic, and feed on aggression and fear when it's not happening to you.
3 likes@Bluest huh? i dont understand
8 likesDream Logic - oh ok š so if he did this to your daughter, or any female family member, youād still defend the creature who raped and killed them? Youād be the first one to stand up and yell at the police to stop being cruel and sadistic toward the rapist and murderer of your family member?
39 likes@CandiGale73 @Thought Crimininal I think Dream Logic isnĀ“t necessarily wrong here; I think she isnĀ“t trying to defend him, but just explaining WHY itsĀ“s so enjoyable to watch the aggression from the bad-cop part. At least I hope thats what shes trying to say...
4 likesLaila A. But it isnāt āsadisticā whatsoever and sadism isnāt a ānaturalā aspect of human thought. She is trying to paint everything in a different light completely by even that suggestion. Itās called justice and retribution. Sheās definitely terrible at trying to analyze what, why, and how, and should leave that shit up to the channel operators.
10 likes@Matt Welsh Why? Literally nothing happens.
0 likesRoger mucroy lol are you the guy they interrogated? Because Im pretty sure everyone but you would agree that bad cop play was sensational
3 likes@CandiGale73 I do not defend or condone anyone or anything that harms innocents. The question here is about whether you should get pleasure from something that is painful to another. You people aren't that crude in your thinking are you? You aren't that incapable of parsing these issues out and understanding this I hope.
1 like@inyrui Your prose is so pitiful, your ideas so incompetent they aren't worth commenting on. Just a suggestion for the future though: if you want your comments to be effective, or taken remotely seriously, don't end them with 'haha'. It sounds dumb, and negates whatever precedes it.
3 likes@inyrui You simply embarrass yourself further, and reveal a crude, violent consciousness. These kinds of comments, like about me being a saint, just tell people you feel deeply insecure. Continue to use 'haha'. It negates anything you were trying to say, indicates your lack of confidence, and keeps your comments irrelevant. Or you could change. Good luck.
2 likesDream Logic you seem to be implying sympathy for a child rapist and child murderer, and we are supposed to feel ashamed that we donāt care how he was treated in the interrogation room. If he had an ounce of your sympathy before raping and murdering an innocent 8 y/o, we wouldnāt even be discussing this. He had a choice and went through it. No one made him do this. And the fact that he had a woman grab the young girl speaks to his premeditation and that a lot of effort went in to this crime. That creature got a huge amount of pleasure doing what he did. I will not back down from my opinion. I will never change it.
8 likes@Bluest odd that you would advocate the death penalty after going on and on about how crude people are.
9 likes@P. Elle T. āI didn't go on and on. I clarified to some folks who wildly misunderstood my position, and seemed to be expressing quite a lot of deep insecurity about their own, inherent in their attack of me. As far as your comment, you're probably right. It is odd. But there is no question such a person is dangerous, toxic, and has probably forfeited their right to co-exist with so many innocent people on this planet. I'm not advocating death penalty via the state; it is fraught with difficulty and expense. I meant that I would not blame for a moment the person who executed him, and I could probably live with doing it myself.
3 likesIt was like a speech from a movie.
1 likeHaha I know right
0 likesAināt got there yet, Iām ready for that part !!
0 likesThe country where i came from He is considered good cop , in my country u ll get beat up and stay in cold room with an uncomfortable chair lol
0 likesJohn Smith ALMOST enjoyed??
0 likesHa...i love the good cop here...he made me confess
0 likesI honest to G-d thought that interrogator was never going to shut up! I'd bet everything he said to Rafferty went in one ear and out the other.
0 likesI've never cheered on the "bad cop" role so much before.
0 likescops always use the strategy of "i know youre not a monster. I know monsters and youre not one of them". This is an actual monster though theres no getting around that. lol
0 likes57:16
0 likesWhat does "life in prison without the possibility of parole for 25 years" mean?
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after 25 years you can apply for parole
3 likesWhat I expected: Mindhunter-style talk with a complete psycho
5782 likesWhat I got: A crybaby who passive-agresively talks back to cops like they're his mom.
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Yessss!!!
3 likesYep
4 likes@New Customs In jail he's going to be passed around also š
85 likesThat's the mean to an end! Their m.o. and it Works
3 likesAwww, cute little cockatiel !! I had a pair as a kid, they're so damn sweet.
4 likes@It's what You make it
14 likesHowdy pardner tips tiny fedora
that's what real monsters are like. they are so unbelievably twisted that they will turn the brutal murder of a child into a pity party for themselves
108 likesHeās playing a role. Heās always gotten his way before by reverting to a child like response. Cops donāt play that.
62 likesLmaoooooo
0 likesToo funny!
0 likesHe is acting like a crybaby because those brutal canadian cops broke him by giving only one cube of sugar and doughnut without glaze.
31 likesI think itās funny when he sits there and saysā I didnāt do anything ācrying like a little boy it just reminds me of my nephew when he gets in trouble and heās 9
13 likesIt shouldn't be a surprise that a sicko who attacks kid(s) would be someone an adult would perceive as a crybaby loser.
13 likesI love your pfp!!!!! D:
0 likes@Tim hes gonna get the broom.
3 likes@Epoxygleu he's not gonna get anything they keep him entirely apart from gen pop
1 like@Mandy M you wish.
0 likes@Mandy M its not though š what the hell do you think?
0 likes@Epoxygleu that he's been in seg because that's where they keep people like him
1 like@Epoxygleu maybe go to Kingston pen and then tell me how it is š
0 likes@Mandy M well I cant, because 1; not a psycho 2; kingston is closed. So point 3; hes not gonna be in seg forever, theyll have their chances to beat the living shit out of him, as they should :)
1 likeEvil demon
0 likesmost of these guys are absolute crybabies who target children because they can't take any sort of conflict with an adult
6 likesI love that picture of the bird you use. We have one of the same birds. We have to get him a hat like that lolol
0 likesThatās why this channel is better than any crime TV show Iāve seen.
0 likesIt's because a lot of offenders of this type were molested or abused as a child so they're stunted emotionally, and they never develop social skills and meaningful relationships, and they turn to sick shit.
3 likes@Jack M. Let's not pretend Ed Kemper isn't any less of a monster than this guy is though
1 like@Timaeus Testified very well put!
0 likes@Yeetyfreety ;)
1 likeMost of these types of criminals are that type
0 likes@Jack M. that's not a monster, people are scared of monsters, this guy is just pathetic. The psychopaths and sociopaths are monsters, because they are cold calculating and impressive
0 likesOh so THATS where Iāve heard those come-backs before
0 likes@Timaeus Testified I think it's worth mentioning that if he actually were a psychopath it would help his case. Not all psychopaths do bad things, it's just a mental illness
0 likes@abc "Psychopathy" is the layman's term for "antisocial personality disorder", which is not "mental illness" in the way that say, depression or schizophrenia is, but a personality disorder. People with personality disorders are considered legally sane by the justice system- as in, if you have ASPD and you plead not guilty by reason of insanity, that shit won't fly. People with ASPD are absolutely capable of making choices that are conducive with living in society, the ones who choose violence and terror are doing exactly that, making a choice.
0 likesWent back to get her motherās butterfly earrings.. was classified a missing person when clearly seen walking with some stranger , life is precarious.. esp for the vulnerable
0 likesIāve never seen anyone repeat the same point over and over again without a response or pause for 31 minutes
0 likesThatās Detective must be breathing through that coffee cup of his cause I swear I havenāt seen him take one breath!!!
0 likesAmazing Performance of Non-stop Rapport, Not letting one second be available to the suspect to think or come up with some Story!?
hope he has a miserable life in prison. Feeble coward, only person he could ever have "power" over was a child. One of the worst individuals I've seen in these interviews with how much of a coward he is.
1 likeI remember this case. I was around Tori's age, and I lived in Toronto at the time. I remember my parents drilling into me to never go anywhere with strangers. No exceptions. The change in the environment was so jarring in retrospect, people were far more protective of their children in the aftermath.
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Sorry that sounds traumatizing
12 likesUnderstandable, imagine the guilt the parents felt for not being there when she came out of the school, they shouldn't have to be, this should never even be a possibility, but they will have gone through that hell regardless.
29 likesI remember the panic I'd feel getting lost at the mall. I couldn't imagine getting abducted
11 likesThat's the thing. It's not "Don't talk to strangers," it's "Don't follow strangers."
1 likeTalking to strangers is fine, that's literally socialization. Going places with strangers however is incredibly dangerous, as this video shows.
@Finnian Mckee itās donāt talk to strangers without your parents there. When I was about 9 I talked to a woman while walking, before I realized it she had walked me into a secluded alleyway with a car w. Blacked out windows.
2 likesI ran as soon as I realized but at this point it could have gone very wrong.
With stuff like this you are better save than sorry
Its better to be over protected than dead
1 like@November Blake Well, in that case you followed a stranger didn't you?
1 likeI guess the talking distracted you though.
@Finnian Mckee yeah, but in my small child brain āfollowingā was literally someone taking me by the hand and saying ācome with meā. Maybe I was just a really dumb child but kids often donāt understand implications like that ĀÆ\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
2 likes@November Blake Welp, you had enough awareness you realized you were following that woman eventually.
2 likes@November Blake Iām glad youāre still here with us bro
1 likeI feel like there was a bet in the hallway that was something likeā¦ okay guys, dude gets a year for every time I say āokayā in there.
0 likesImagine you get asked if you're hungry, you request a full meal. Eat that meal finish and mention that you don't answer questions without your lawyer present. I mean-
0 likesI love this detective omg
0 likesWhatching these interagations makes me realise how unrealistic the ones on criminals minds are. Also his voice is really annoying I'm glad I heard the detective for most of the video.
1 likeThat man is a disgusting freak for what heās done, I find it morally reprehensible to see him try and āactā like he didnāt do it! The fact he wonāt even admit he has an issue after killing a child makes me extremely upset
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Makes you think how good the first detective is for keeping his composure. I would be absolutely disgusted talking to this man.
2 likesHe's so worried about not looking guilty by eating or not eating, but literally everything else he does makes him look guilty beyond belief and apparently he isnt aware of any of those things at all lmao
0 likesThis is my favorite investigator
0 likes1:14 the det. tells the subject what the investigative team knows. Crazy.
0 likesheās gonna be sick! The minute you chose to kidnap & kill a child ! you made that disgusting choice ! we have choices in this world! to be a decent person or a sick individual!
0 likesThe interrogator sure has a great ability to tactically ramble.
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Right he should try scam baiting haha!! šš They have an ability to ramble!!
207 likes@ella ā¤ļø agreed
17 likesHe never shuts up itās amazing.
395 likes@Ares Langer I know enough to drive you crazy! I wonder if he is like that in normal life! All the time lol
73 likesHe was mentally torturing him non-stop. He wasn't actually interrogating him.
419 likes@Psisis hahaha
7 likesI would take the word tactically out of your sentence...
16 likesYeah the first 30 minutes is the interrogator talking and the sociopath feeling sorry for himself.
47 likesIt's not hard. You focus on a few different points and keep saying them over and over for 90 minutes
31 likesAnd the way he comes off extremely friendly and helpful. I would probably have felt very comfortable and that I had a friend in the detective who was going to help me through everything.
56 likesIām like shut up!
6 likesHis poor wife š
13 likesIt's so he doesn't have time to think of a lie.
41 likes@Victoria Dime š yeah he seems to go on forever, I guess that's apart of their strategy with suspects. š¤·š¼āāļø
10 likesHis rambling was driving me crazy! He definitely did his job well I would have lost it 5 minutes in lol
30 likesI should watch it again and count how many times he said "ok" and "right" šµ
7 likesEven Im getting a bit annoyed
8 likesOh he is the best...i plead guilty to 8 crimes....he acts like it was just a mistake
11 likesIt was the āokayā at the end of EVERY sentence whether it be a question or statement. Really jarred me. āOwkeeyā.
17 likeslike my ex
2 likesThe āGift of gabā
3 likesHe's Canadian. He was born to ramble
6 likes30 min in and Iām about to confess my sins just so he will stop talking š
15 likesHe is Canadian
1 likeHe also knows he is responding we canāt see his reaction but the guy got a blanket he fains throwing up. He knows he is up shits creek he probably is trying to figure out how they found out? He is trying to not let the guilt over run subconscious? Damn interesting interrogation technique.
8 likesThe man is a machine, unrelenting.
4 likesOk
1 likeI thought he was nice! lol
1 likeI even forgot what he said by the time he stopped talking....so much salad words
6 likesDude is about half way to Hunter S Thompson rambling status
4 likesI do too. I'm an Uber driver.š
3 likesšššš¤£š¤£š š š š¤
0 likesHad a boyfriend like that cop once...drove me nuts! He probably doesn't talk at all at home, though.
6 likes@Sara Eyler gold, buddy š
1 likeHe was rambling soo much I wanted to confess to a few things, goddamn
3 likes@Amine Sebti I would pay closer attention
0 likesFranky Calgs in my long career in investigations everyone has their own style hopefully based on results. However, if I was watching through the glass I wouldāve advised my subordinate to give it a rest and he was talking too much. I guess I wasnāt easy to work for.
3 likesTrue but never did get a confession. Whether he needed it or not.
0 likes"Verbal Judo"
1 likeThe "diarrhea of the mouth" technique.
4 likesMy team's daily standups are even better at rambling
2 likes@Sam Neekzad huh? How does this make me a psychopath?
1 like@M exactly
0 likes@Franky Calgs DUH!!!!!!! could you be any more obvious?!?!?? Did you think you making a poignant comment? Well instead you made a pointless comment.
0 likes@Franky Calgs oh. Sorry. Disregard my previous comment. I didn't notice you emojis at first. Right on.
0 likes@homeGirl415 yeah now that was as a bit annoying but trust me. Everything they do is to get the suspect to crack. Sounding like an annoying prick is all part of the tactics.
1 like@ThePrufessa make me go to sleep š... Iāll wait? š
0 likes@Candice Ross .. omfg girl I would have to be rude asf and just walk away Awkwardly! Oh hell nah, no way Iām going through that !!! OMG!!!!!!
0 likesI try tactically rambling with my gf. Doesnāt work.
0 likes@Wake Up Doesn't work well against women, unfortunately.
1 likeIn England itās called Waffling
0 likesi have never seen such devastatingly powerful Yammer in my life and i live with a habitual practitioner of it. this Yammer oughta be in the olympics. it's colossal.
1 likeit's very hypnotic, very relaxing...it almost lulls you.
1 like"OK"
0 likesHe's a master manipulator , he needs to be to get the pos to talk. They're usually not having a nervous breakdown like this evil manchild, he seems like he can't believe he got caught.
0 likesAmine Sebti Letās see you pull a confession out of this guy. This detective is fuckin top-notch.
0 likes@Michael Bugner if I was a crackhead. If Iāve said it once Iāve said it 1 million times on these videos. Lawyer up! Donāt say anything, which he kind of did so good strategy for the criminal
0 likes@ella ā¤ļø like kitbogaš he is master
0 likesYou'd be surprised how much the skill of "rambling coherently" can pay off. It was basically my most valued asset as a customer service agent, when it came to difficult customers.
1 likeYou just talk and talk and talk in circles, while sprinkling in some leading questions and getting them to admit their own mistakes, so that if they were to respond in any way except the one you want, they'd portray themselves as stupid. That shit is gold and makes it so much easier. No need to get emotional or insulting; just get them to realize they'll insult themselves if they keep going and you get results.
@ella ā¤ļø Kitboga says hi
0 likes@Michael Evans then the second cop came in being aggressive its a very good tactic. tire him out with the nice guy so he doesn't want to talk to him so even tho the second guy sucks its better than the first
0 likes"You know what a psychopath is Mike?"
2 likes"I haven't met one."
"Well, I just met one tonight."
"You are a sick puppy, Mike"
Roast
This agent is such a good talker.
0 likes22:03 We need to deal with reality here
0 likes23:51 You got some explaning to do
People are saying his punishment is too light.... welcome to Canada. He received the harshest punishment possible in our justice system.
1 likeI canāt imagine how uncomfortable that detective must be. Sure heās only pretending to be nice, but imagine having to offer that food, shake his hand on the way out. Act or not, that mustnāt feel good
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So so true. Like all undercover cops... I canāt imagine having to be chummy with those who are definitely bad apples just to get significant evidence. Truly remarkably strong people Iām so glad we have them. I hope they get the mental help they need to stay sane and help. Very impressive.
49 likesSad case. Rest In Peace. š
I couldn't I don't know how he do
2 likesI dunno, I think part of him did care for the guy. I mean what a miserable, pathetic sight to behold.
8 likesI mean he has over 20 years of experience. This is just second nature for him now.
7 likesI'm pretty sure at some point in time you get desensitized to this sort of thing, it just becomes a part of your job, something that happens every day. I believe everyone involved in the process of "law" should be that calm and patient.
11 likesThe same way EMTs feel when we take care of murderers and other criminals, we get the job done and do it to the highest standards, our feelings about an individual doesnt matter, our job does.
6 likesI couldnāt do it. I wouldnāt be able to contain myself. Iād be done for murder too having been left alone in a room alon with such an evil monster. Imagine these detectives probably have kids too at home the same age š¢
2 likes@Irish Dee talks š I imagine quite an amount of these officers have ptsd.
3 likesImagine having to go home to your wife and kids after that. It's no wonder so many hit the bottle
5 likesIt sounds pretty bad but you also get to mess with his head knowing the effect what youāre doing is having on his mind. Also a lot of these guys get some pretty bad ptsd from the things theyāve seen to the point where everything is numb
2 likes17:21 āYou and I need to have a discussion. This isnāt a parking ticket, this is reality.ā
0 likesThis exact thought crosses my mind watching these videos. True professionals.
0 likesā@Cyberpantsu I'm sure they learn how to compartmentalize, to some extent. That said, the psychological toll of these kinds of cases can and does lead to early retirement by some.
0 likesThis is true, but the reward for putting on this act is worth it if they get sent to prison for life.
1 likeDrinking game: Take a sip/shot for everytime the investigator says āokayā.
0 likescan't stand his voice, it's so annoying hearing him whine for mercy after doing what he did
3 likesSgt. Jim Smith is a popular interrogator. He also did the (in)famous Canadian murderer, Russell Williams. (Another good interrogation video).
0 likesDetective: "These things happen...these things happen all the time."
0 likesMe: No they don't * Realizes Epstein Island is a thing * oh right actually they do :'(
the part at the end where the detective is talking about how the victim "just wanted to go home and have a little party with her friends, because her mom just redecorated her room for her" made me really fucking sad
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an 8 years old kid with so much fun and happiness ahead has gone forever... the detective's voice makes it's even sadder
130 likesThat part literally made me cry. I don't understand how could this guy keep his composture.
54 likesThat got me too .. Last mothers day a deranged woman stabbed a little girl at a park when she was out with her parents..her name was Emily, that's my Daughters name.. she's only 4, I think the girl was 6, but it makes you realise how f* up this world is that a child can't even be safe in the park with their parents by their side !
49 likes666th like.
2 likesWhen he said the little girl trusted and was kind to the abductor until she got to the car my heart broke.
8 likestwo words......general population.
7 likes@Ć Vy terrible. Poor kid and family
0 likesHeartbreaking, poor wee soul, this man makes me want to hurt him.
0 likes@TomĆ”s GarcĆa Funes because it isnāt his first time :(
0 likesi wouldāve broken around the third time he repeated the credibility speech
1 likeGod if I was the arresting cop I would have been judge jury and executioner.
1 likeDrinking Challenge: Take a shot every time the detective says āokayā
0 likesWatching Nickolas Cage intimidate the weakest man I have ever seen š
0 likesI found it fascinating when they brought Terri-Lyn in the room. His demeanour changed so quickly from a quivering, pathetic mess to an evil man seething with rage at a woman who he felt betrayed him. It seems like he wants to get up and strangle her and is using all his will to act neutral so he doesnāt incriminate himself by releasing his true emotions in that moment.
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Spot on
5 likesshe was found guilty of the actual murder and is a psychopath. he was genuinely made she was pinning the murder on him
21 likesiām confused why the hell she would do this with him? She can blame him all she wants but why would she bring the girl to him?!šš¢
3 likes@Montsergirlsome of the other commenters are saying It was proven that she was the one who swung the hammer and had repeatedly wrote in a journal about fantasizing and becoming sexually aroused at the thought of murder, and is still very violent while in incarceration, seems like evil found evil and teamed up in this case.
13 likesThe Detective said " OK " more times in a few moments than I've said in my 76 years ! But that's OK !!
5 likesGiving him a blanket to could have been a bad move. Kinda like giving the suspect something to hide behind thus strengthening his resolve to not give in.
0 likesAnyone who doesnāt ask for a lawyer I assume whatās to confess eventually.
1 like47:37 "Smith's behavior in the following moments is not associated with any techniques nor strategies" what a jargon-y way of saying "oh shit"
0 likespeople like this are the reason that i feel like we are living threw hell
0 likesBlown away by the interrogators composure. Heās sitting across from literal human debris having to watch an embarrassing performance from a pathetic man. All while having to humanize and normalize evil behavior. The fact it took him until the end for that parting shot shows just how trained that unit is.
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Agreed, It's insane how composed he is.
97 likesHe is very dishonest
19 likesItās insane I mean heās very good. Like listening to him try to comfort and normalize - that has to be so hard like you want to kill that man but he canāt because he has a goal of getting info. Really talented investigator.
120 likesSo he's like a septic tank technician for the criminal mind.
50 likesI think this is the same detective who got Russell Williams to confess
61 likesā@ringz Yes, Jim Smyth.
33 likesAgent Smith only breaks a sweat when interrogating Mr. Anderson. Rafferty stood no chance.
28 likeslove ur videos man
4 likes@Ophiax LOL!!!!!!
2 likesGotta be a Canadian thing, I canāt see an investigator from the States being this calm cool and collected for this long. Maybe I watch too much tv though.
11 likes@D X they say sexually assaulted because it downplays his horrific actions which allows a better rapport, itās also a more courteous way to phrase it. If someone was talking about their experience with rape they may call it sexual assault because itās not as personal, because it might be triggering to actually say the word (similar to how loud noises can trigger veterans with PTSD)
17 likesItās kinda hard to explain, but I understand how frustrating and aggravating it is to hear.
@Jintaro Kensei lol. I get it and appreciate your joke.
3 likesThe professionalism of the detectives and intergators is to me one of the biggest draws in these videos.
11 likesIāve got to admit that detective had restraint in dealing with him. Iād have to resist punching that sicko at a few points.
4 likesJim is an exceptionally good and very skilled interrogator. With most of criminals this is the way you get out information and you get them condemned. Otherwise, blowing out steam, you get s**t.
4 likes@D X It's Canada eh?, very liberal I'd imagine and lenient on hard criminals
1 like@D X chill out dude. Rape IS sexual assault. Calling it "sexual assault" doesn't take away from what he did, or downplay what he did. Its simply just another way to describe it. Just like shooting someone in the head..cutting someone's throat..strangling someone..those can all be accurately described as "murder". But of course, there's always people in the comments who look for any reason at all to bitch and complain, no matter how small and stupid the reason is
14 likesThat interviewers rapport building skills is op as fuck
2 likesSome are saying that detectives in the US wouldn't be able to control themselves, and might just go off on the suspect. That's why most detectives don't handle these types of cases.... Because they can't disassociate themselves from the act and the person accused of committing it.
2 likesMany police departments found out the hard way that you can't just throw a regular detective on a case such as this.
I'm sure that many of the people who deal with type of crime, most likely have some serious issues deep down, having the full knowledge and photos of the act committed on a child.
I couldn't do it. I'd either kill the ones accused, or lose my mind with the knowledge.
No
0 likesAre you better then?
0 likesI hate when people misuse the word literal
1 like@ringz really wow
0 likesThis man would be dead in the police station "shot trying to get away". Bloody routine in India
0 likes@D X life in prison is a MINIMUM 25 years. Technically after that you're eligible for parole. That doesn't mean you'll get it. If you're particularly disgusting, you could end up as a Dangerous Offender and remain in prison indefinitely
1 like@Ethereal Bukkake good thing they didn't misuse it
0 likes@jeremy pool i also hate when people mosuse the comment section on YT
1 like@Ethereal Bukkake good thing no one is doing that either
1 like@jeremy pool GOMD
0 likes@ringz yeah, but the first investigator wasnt present, just jim smith
0 likesIt would take a lot of skill to not š« him
0 likes@ringz no it isn't the same guy. Same unit.
0 likesYou're using the word "literal" wrong dude
1 like@ringz Jim Smyth is his name he's the best on the planet
0 likes@janbo there are actually two detectives here, the easy going guy is Chris Loam (he introduces himself in the beginning) and the no-nonsense guy is Jim Smyth
4 likesYears of experience and actually able to function well in that environment
0 likesIf you watch some of the training these guys have to go through, they really are the unsung heroes of justice. Courts and beat police get things wrong all the time but interrogators are a different breed
2 likes@Mikey Skrap crazy Canucks spelling Smith with a y
0 likes@janbo Is it really the same guy? Sounds different to me but that means nothing......
0 likes@K M Because that's how his last name in particular is actually spelled.
1 likeYou have to maintain your professionality to obtain that conviction.
1 like@Jeremy Fryar Eww, what? Gotta be a Canadian thing?? Yeah I don't think so lol. I mean nice try, but no, there's absolutely nothing special about Canadians lol
0 likes@janbo No. His name is Chris, he introduced himself at the beginning of interrogation.
0 likesAs an investigator, and a police officer in general, sadly this type of behavior often become numbing after awhile. You see the worst of what people can do to others and it doesnāt surprise you. Itās not as difficult as you might think to keep your composure with a monster like this. Yes, it bothers you, yes youād love nothing more than to throttle him. However, when youāre there, when youāre doing your job, it become natural, because you often distance yourself from the crime, because it helps make you seem sympathetic to the POS and helps establish a rapport. Making them actually believe you uunderstand them, and that youāre their friend. If youāre really good, you can make anyone spill their guts. That, right there, is what itās all about, and I can assure you, is the greatest feeling in the world. Especially when you see them realize they just screwed themselves over from any defense, and you can smile as you get up, walk away, and tell them what theyāre being charged with. When they realize that the entire time, you were just manipulating them, to get them to tell you what happened.
1 likeThen there is the other guy who is like "get rid of your fucking security blanket and be a man!" hahahah
2 likes@Knight Industries Ah yes, life without the possibility of parole. Very lenient indeed.
0 likesMmmkay
0 likes@No Name he's Clarice Starling from Silence of the lambs, literally that's what he does. šš
0 likes@Jeremy Fryar there was an fbi interrogator from Boston, John something. Chilling dude
0 likesIt's like he's an employer interviewing a candidate for a job at the local office building.
0 likesItās called bring professional
0 likesthere is no such thing as "evil behavior"
0 likes@Ophiax Very detached* this has nothing to do with his actual honesty.
0 likesthis video made me TERRIFIED of a canadian interrogator LoL
0 likesIt's like he's said. He's seen it hundreds of times. It's his entire life. I doubt there's much conscience left.
0 likesThe fact that he never ever looks at anyone in the eye, not even once, shows what an incredible coward he is. Totally pathetic coward.
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Yeah pretty gross watching a grown man pout and look for pity under a blanket like that. I loved it when the "bad" cop came in.
60 likes4 MORE YEARS! Difference, one is not a choice. Autism isnāt a choice. Looking away from murdering a child is pathetic and cowardly. Donāt compare an illness with someone disgusting.
58 likesIf you want eye contact, you should go check out the staring contest champion Stephen Mcdaniel
24 likesMars Without days I understand what youāre saying and I agree... but autism isnāt an illness
6 likes@Mars Without days he has an illness too. Humans are worthless without their actions
1 likeThe most pathetic part is that hes trying to play the victim
12 likes@I can't believe it's not Communism! What an unnecessary statement.
11 likes@Fortex vize I hope I didn't trigger you :(
1 likeThe fact that he got sexual gratification from an 8 year old child should have been enough to show you that.
5 likes@Conroyrofl What is it then, a super power?
0 likes4 MORE YEARS! Of what exactly? With the 4 yrs
0 likes@Adam S Trump's presidency.
1 like4 MORE YEARS!, not a fan of him but care less for the libs. 4 more!
1 likeThese pedos are often brain damaged and abused by their family before becoming an adult. Its a cycle we have to find and stop to prevent these crimes in the future
1 like@Gi Al Some are. Some are emotionally stunted during puberty. Some are hardwired at birth to find children sexually attractive.
0 likesTheHumanSpeciesIsAPlague NotMeantToBeInExistence it isnāt. Someone with autismās brain just works differently, doesnāt mean itās an illness.
2 likesI once had a friend with autism and he was one of the most intelligent people Iāve ever met. Socially it can hold you back but it can also give incredible originality, creativity and different ways of understanding things. Albert Einstein, Charles Darwin, Michelangelo, Isaac Newton and Tesla just to name a few very influential people, thereās so many more -were all known to have autism somewhere on the spectrum. Seriously, it really can be a gift
4 MORE YEARS! ^^^
2 likes@Conroyrofl Oh don't call Einstein or Darwin Autistic! They had no trouble socializing or getting laid. Using them is the ploy used by quacks to comfort parents of socially inept children after a false Aspergers diagnosis. Some people just are bona fide geniuses.
1 like4 MORE YEARS! itās widely believed by psychologists that Darwin and Einstein were on the spectrum. This isnāt to even say autism made their genius, but it could have definitely contributed.
3 likesItās called a spectrum for a reason, it may disable some people, others it can help them shine. It can go both ways. But just because someoneās brain works different it doesnāt mean theyāre mentally ill, it just means theyāre different some for the best.
@Conroyrofl Diagnosis in absentia by quacks.
0 likes@DonutDoom People like me?
1 like'Autism is just an inability to communicate, socialize and pick up on social cues, therefore it's not a mental illness. Psychopathy is just an inability to empathize, therefore it's not a mental illness.'
@I can't believe it's not Communism! Way to read the room. Ironically that was a very autistic thing to say. Good job.
1 likeactualy i also hate to look at peoples eyes when i talk to them..and im not coward and obviously im not autism.
0 likes@M1LK choc 'obviously'
0 likes@I can't believe it's not Communism! totally unnecessary.
1 like@Conroyrofl why even continue to respond to this person? It's obvious by their deflection from the superior subject at hand that they have their own psychological ineptitude and/or traumas. There's an assertive emphasis on proving themselves as seen in this behavior. They created an entire red herring fallacy and everyone fell for it. This person is in an abyss of misery with their pseudoanalysis. No one cares about their existence and ridiculing moral/social/ethical righteousness is their coping mechanism. Just stop responding to them.
1 likeFor anyone that might be feeling an ounce of sympathy for this 18 year old crying her eyes out, it's worth noting that she later, in prison, confessed to delivering the hammer blows that killed Victoria. Don't spare her the rage you have for the man.
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But the girl was named tori stafford
31 likes@Shortgamemonkey Tori is short for Victoria.
315 likesIs there any article that reports this?
30 likesOmg
7 likesāDefence lawyer Derstine attacked McClintic's credibility during cross-examination, noting she had a history of violent incidents. McClintic stabbed one man, left her adoptive mother partially blind following an assault and put a small dog in a microwave when she was a child.ā
274 likes@Y/E Y holy-
69 likesDisgusting.
39 likesya know, that might explain why Rafferty specified multiple times that he didn't do anything at 14:10 (or not, there's a reason i'm not a criminal psychologist lol)
53 likes@Y/E Y when she was a child?? That should have been immediate red flags for literally anyone.
98 likesThey both deserve life in prison, no parole, the rest of their lives!!!
110 likesShes worse because without her it more than likely wouldn't have happened at least to her then. Then the baby crying for her and she didn't stop it....smh someone is gonna kill her. If I was a lifer she would be on my radar.
86 likesIām glad I saw this comment cause I was actually feeling bad for her
44 likes@Amethyst
22 likesDeath. Preferably the chair. Dry towels.
@Shortgamemonkey Yes, Victoria Elizabeth Marie "Tori" Stafford.
5 likesSo disgusting. I literally never been more sick to my stomachs and I watch a looot of these interrogations. This is just brutal. They both deserve to rot and āshit shake shit and pukeā forever and I hope someone post a pic of that poor girls picture in his cell. If he makes it that long in prison lol.
30 likesThat's why he said she was a liar then. But explaining her part on the crime would imply confessing his own...
11 likesI thought he was rambling.
1 likeI had zero sympathy for her the second she walked Tori away from safety and into a rapist's arms. I'm not surprised she'd confess to actual participation. I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't even more of a participant than even she's "confessed/bragged" about thus far. ANYONE capable of helping in this type of crime deserves the exact punishment the attacker gets.
23 likes@Suzie Thompson Totally agree. It was a horendous crime. I'm still amazed she got away with lying her ass off for so long when she was really the driving force and heartless killer behind this tragedy.
9 likesEven after the police and media blamed him for everything it took a long time for the truth to come out. It makes you think what would have happened if she wasn't forced to admit it was her that abused and murdered this poor child. What an absolute monster Ā”
@Amethyst sadly women don't get the same sentences
8 likes@Ian Price In this case she did.
7 likes@C S does he? Rape is heinous, and the rape of a child even moreso. But at a certain point you have to realize that after a rape a person still has the opportunity to put their life back together. Murder completely precludes that.
2 likesI didnt feel bad for her anyway. Her story was sketchy. She walked away and came back then walked away again. She at the very least knew exactly everything happening and was the one that kidnapped the little girl. She deserved life for those facts alone.
6 likes@Rik S I first thought that he was all behind this. But after reading her murderpedia file it is clear that he was in it for the sex and she was in it for the murder. Now im wondering if she wasnt there that maybe tori would have been alive after all.
7 likesLinks???
0 likesI'm not angry at either at them lol, but I don't feel bad for them either. if they have any humanity they're angry enough at themselves for this
0 likes@korwl I don't disagree, you're correct.
2 likesBut my belief is that rape is worse. Yeah, a rape victim can put their life together but they'll always have that trauma to deal with, for the rest of that life. The pain and insecurity never really goes away, it dulls with time but it's always there, and sometimes the person just can't get over it and it truly affects the rest of their life. You can watch someone lose all of their potential and happiness day to day in their life.
Compared to being murdered, where when your life is over, that's it. No more pain, no more of this shitshow or having to deal with trauma. Yeah, the potential of that person is gone, people miss them dearly... but they also don't have to deal with the after effects of being raped, which lasts a lifetime and can really mess people up and in some cases stop someone from living a normal life.
@ēŗē±ćć why would you feel sorry for her. she led a child to her violent demise. wtf?
2 likes@pudden pop Yeah but I just feel bad when I see people cry and from what she was saying I thought it sounded like she was forced to help. Itās easy to trick me
1 like@ēŗē±ćć even if she was telling the truth i wouldnāt feel bad for her. nobody could force me to do that. in that scenario i would hide in the school and tell the staff to call the police. but iām hearing it was she who killed the girl. like holy shit
2 likes@pudden pop Yeah and I get that but itās easy to guilt me and make me feel bad
2 likesDang, that's well putā
0 likesHonestly I wouldn't be surprised if she did everything
0 likes@Mr. LigerTiger thatās truly poetic
0 likes@Ouroboros murder is definitely worse. Thatās it, the end.
0 likes@pudden pop exactly she is totally involved
1 like@Taylor Gordon Sure.m that can be your opinion. The end.
0 likes@Shortgamemonkey vic TORI a
1 likeWho would feel bad? Sheās literally the one that lured the girl to this terrible fate.
0 likes@Honkey Kong you want to send a teenager to death in a manipulative and predatory relationship??? She deserves prison but death is ridiculous
0 likes@Monkey D. Luffy i think the grown man dating a teenager is the one that orchestrated it
0 likes@Mary Just read her murderphile page please and maybe that will change your mind. noone is saying the man isnt guilty aswell we are just saying that she isnt some innocent girl. she is 18 and knew what she did.
2 likes@Amethyst Death*
0 likesWHY WOULD ANYONE HAVE SYMPATHY for THE GIRL WHO LURED HER TO HER DEATH???
1 like@Y/E Y OMG what the hell. SO SAD. anyone who hurts an animal would not hesitate to kill a defensive child.
2 likes@CTheCheese To be fair I know someone who did that as a kid who I'm 99% aren't a sadistic phychopath. They did it cause they were a idiot child and thought it would dry them off lol
0 likes@korwl the fact is she delivered the final blows. But never said she broke her bones or damaged her liver. Only the headshots. He put the kid in pain, and she finished her off. Both are messed up still.
1 likeLetās hope those people are not in here
0 likesThis is mind blowing, if true. To be clear, what he did was horrifying and wrong, but if she did that, then he shouldn't be charged with murder. I mean wow, the little shit boi would have actually been telling the truth, somewhat, altho yes obviously he is still guilty for raping and kidnapping.
0 likes@C S why? If not for her it wouldn't have happened! Then someone's saying she's also hammered the poor girl to death!
0 likes@Suzie Thompson agreed.
0 likes@Ouroboros Ah, the dragon eating its own tail... ironic, there is a difference between being a survivor and a victim. When you take away someone's life, you not only are stealing their potential but making a choice for them. So I disagree, as that's a nihilistic point of view in my opinion. She was so young and children are able to suppress memories or transmute the energy into artwork, writing, or becoming advocates for others like Elizabeth Smart. For the record, I'm bipolar and was a victim of abuse at 2 years old. Also lost my sister who was abused to an overdose a month ago. So my outlook could be skewed itself as I deal with my own survivor's guilt issues and shit. Anyway, I appreciated your response and it really got me thinking. I love the Ouroboros "infinity" design and I'm thinking of getting a tattoo to dedicate to my little sis, and that might be fitting.
3 likes@Mary I could have sworn JCS stated he was an 18 yr old male? Where am I getting confused?
0 likes@Boogity Hoo i think he said 28 but I could be wrong. If he were 18 then nvm sorry about that.
0 likes@Boogity Hoo I checked online and he was 28
0 likesI think sheās a lot less culpable in this crime than her predator
0 likes@Elizabeth what is there to lol about?????
0 likesPeople saying that the detective hasn't shut up yet, he's mentally tiring out the murderer and not giving him the freedom or time to think of a lie to try to weasel himself out of the interrogation
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As stated around @18:25
76 likeshasani hall how does that have to do with anything man?
44 likes@Enida Bonghit I wrote this before lol
2 likes@hasani hall yes and?
18 likeshasani hall iām well aware of that and calling you out for it!
6 likeshasani hall okay so you donāt see it, do you? nvm then
2 likes@Ben Dover i donāt think you understand what the purpose of this interrogation was
9 likesNot condoning whatsoever what this fiend did. That being said, he was read his rights upon arrest and didn't need to subject himself whatsoever to interrogation if he lawyered up.
1 likeBet you the people saying this are Americans, lol.
0 likesOther criminals would be like āok ok I did itā so the interrogator would stop talkingš
0 likes@Sophia Victoria Maria Merten your adorable for that comment
0 likesIt didn't worked out, did it.... And I think it wouldn't work on me neither. There is certain amount of character strength that'll put you over the bar of this technique. As well as capability to isolate yourself from environment. A little like meditation. Then you have all the time in the world for yourself, making up your mind, bringing your thoughts together and keeping your emotions at bay (as well as tuning in for appropriate ones for the situation).
0 likesBut at the end evidence matters the most so...
yes but in the nicest way possible lol
0 likesExactly watch him interrogate Russell Williams, his voice is totally different. Very professional .
0 likesCould you show us an example of an innocent person being interrogated?
695 likesIt would be very interesting to see the difference.
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Good idea.
24 likes@Notes On Life Podcast an excellent idea.... which is why he's already done it genius.
15 likes@Alarming Twitch yikes
69 likes@Alarming Twitch Which one was that?
5 likes@Alarming Twitch silence after rude remark
72 likes@J Ali Don't know if it's still on the channel, but there was one about a dude who had a heroin addiction and they interrogated him about a burglary(?). The difference to this video is like night and day. Dude sipped a coke, then told them "I didn't do shit, get the fuck out of here; I want a laywer" or something to that effect.
46 likesHe has one on his patreon
3 likes@Mick Loud he's had many videos that have been taken down, but those videos are probably on his patreon.
3 likes@JAB what's a patreon?
0 likes@Mick Loud When you do not want your viewers to suffer through advertising you set up a Patreon account. It allows people to donate to the channel to help provide more content. If you donate then you are a Patreon of the author and can access exclusive content, more videos, early access etc. There is a link to Jim Cant Swim's Patreon in the description of the video.
9 likesRogueAOV more like YouTube is fucked so some videos might not make it to YouTube
0 likesI doubt that innocent people would allow their interrogations to be made public. Guilty folks don't have the option.
8 likesI was thinking the same thing. Great idea!!
1 likeAbschiss thank you.
0 likesAlarming Twitch damn. You big mad šššššš u alright??
3 likesAlarming Twitch just drop a link dammit
2 likesJack H ikr lol.
0 likesHe did do this before. I saw it. The defendant was very stern and confident in his answers. You could tel he wasnāt lying. Fascinating. I saw it a while ago. Forgot which one it is
8 likes@T I remember watching that video too. It was kind of funny in contrast to a guilty person. Think he asked for like 10 cans of coke because they were holding him so long he was going into heroin withdrawal to make him talk. Guy was innocent. Jim Can't Swim mentioned videos being removed by YouTube last year
2 likes@Mick Loud It got removed but it's on his patreon
0 likesThere are at least three videos on JCS's Patreon where he talks about the behaviors of truthful people: the junkie mentioned by others, a rape victim, a young man accused of killing his girlfriend. There's also one with an innocent, badly injured man that's nearly unwatchable. Unfortunately I've had to temporarily suspend my subscription so no links, but for $1.00, it's definitely worth subscribing for yourself.
5 likesAll suspects are guilty, period. Otherwise, they wouldn't be suspects, now would they?
0 likes@David Meehan wow
6 likes@David Meehan ???
6 likes@David Meehan um no.
3 likes@Chris Ward
0 likesLooks like I got three people who want to be suspects.
I love this idea!
0 likesThe people who are innocent dont talk like these perps, and if they do, it's nothing relevant bc hey, theyre innocent
0 likesBrendan dassy
0 likesI have watched one but couldnt remember which chanel.
0 likesChris Ward Richard Ricci was innocent of kidnapping Elizabeth Smart and his interrogation was much different than this pos.
0 likesRogueAOV actually , if you donate/pledge/ financially support someone then you are a Patron, not a patreon but Iām sure that patron and patreon are derived from the same origin....
0 likesSilkendrum neither the Guilty or innocent have a choice....itās not up to the suspect/ person of interest.....itās all a matter of Public records as is defined in the Constitution- however thatās speaking from an American perspective....Iām not sure what the options are in Canada ( they are definitely stricter in Canada and donāt usually release court proceedings but all criminal records are maintained with the RCMP ( not court proceedings but interviews etc) and you can request a public record for anyoneās criminal files, for example) and in the US anyone can submit a RPI request for public information and get copies of any legal proceedings that are not ā sealedā. Some states, like Florida, have very relaxed criminal records privacy ....which is why so much of Casey Anthonyās footage and legal pleadings were all made public. Other States are much more strict but anyone can file a request for release of Public Information on anyone who has been charged, interrogated, convicted etc ....its costs money and takes a very long time but thatās how YouTubers like Jim Canāt Swim have all these videos of interviews....
0 likesRyan Ferguson, Michael Morton, Kirk Bloodsworth.....there are documentaries about each of these cases of men wrongfully convicted and eventually exonerated. The Kirk Bloodsworth case is the first exoneration of someone on Death Row using DNA in the USA....the Ryan Ferguson case is heartbreaking and itās the first time I heard about Kathleen Zellner ....the Michael Morton case happened literally a few blocks over from my house and was one of the first times a Prosecutor was ever punished for acting unethically and being guilty of Prosecutorial Misconduct for which he spent like a day or two in jail.
0 likes@T the legend of Jeff
0 likes@David Meehan huh?
0 likesIn the US, I think that the several times he said he was going to remain silent and spoke of a lawyer, and the fact that the cops didn't stop interrogating him would lead to the charges being dropped.
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I donāt think it matters in situations like this
0 likes@Bruh Bruh it does. This is not an interrogation that could legally happen in the US. Now, if you ask for a lawyer and keep talking, or do not affirmatively ask for a lawyer in a manner that cannot be misinterpreted, things change. Now, the charges probably wouldn't be dropped but anything said in the interrogation probably could not be used as evidence.
0 likes@mason harris ah thank you. Very interesting.
0 likesHe's just a victim guys. Have a lil compassion. Poor guy š¤®
0 likesThere is no level of pain that is high enough for this piece of shit to feel endlessly.
1 likeman the detective's rambling tactic is even working on me, I'm just sitting here and I'm gettin tired of him talking
0 likesI hope In prison he gets exactly what he done to that angel.
1 likeCould you do an episode of Steven Jones?
0 likesWatching monsters suffer like this with nothing but their own mind and shame (not to be confused with guilt) is so satisfying. I hope everyday these monsters suffer in their little cages. Donāt deserve a second of peace
0 likesHe thought by cocooning himself in the yellow blanket would make everything go away.
1 likeGood cop, āIāve had a bad day at workā cop
0 likesBro I couldnāt be like that dude how can he say he isnāt mad at him I know I guess itās his job but dude thatās crazy
0 likesEverytime the Detective says "OK" take a shot.
0 likes12:03 the detective starts to wheel to Rafferty, closing the gap so he feels more blocked in
0 likesMichael Rafferty. What an absolute, monumental coward.
1 likeoh wow
1 likethis almost seems like actions have consequences
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naaaaah couldn't be
im only 16 minutes in. how many times does the detective say "okay" after every statement
0 likesWhat does ālife in prison, without the possibility for parole, for 25 yearsā mean in Canada?
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Basically life in prison means that they'll most likely spend the rest of there life in prison unless there in there early 20's or younger
0 likesParole is basically mid way through there time in prison, it's basically a mini trial to see if the guilty suspect is redeemable or not after a good chunk of there jail time, and the 25 years is how long there sentence is
@Ev Okay, thanks. Same kinda thing in Texas but itās just said differently.
0 likesThe only form of justice appropriate in this case is the death penalty. Canada simply gets it wrong. God's word reveals that death is the appropriate penalty for murderers. No matter. What's coming for him in the next life will be FAR worse than what he experienced in this video...
0 likesHe is really playing the victim role omg take him away
0 likesMy favorite part was when the detective said "ok?"
0 likesGlad to see ya back guys
0 likesI'm convinced they don't DW40 the chairs on purpose just to add to the effect during the interrogations.
0 likesItās also insane that his gf was involved and went and looked for a girl with the specific look he wantedā¦ how sick that she would be in this scheme! How did she not say NO? Unless he was also controlling and being abusive to his gf and she didnāt want to lose him so she did it. Even then.. this is like toxic relationship on another level. Iād be damned if my bf wanted to fulfill some weird fetish involving a child donāt care if I was being abused myself I wouldnāt allow another human to feel that. Heartbreaking
0 likesPlot twist: the detective doesnāt get a salary, heās paid by the word.
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Buddyās balling if thatās the case
324 likesI read somewhere he was one sentence away from "so let me tell you about this timeshare I have"
236 likesHahahahahaha
5 likesI think the Waterloo Provincial Police aren't real crazy about the bald spot cam in the interrogation room
65 likesHaha
0 likesdoing gods work out there.
12 likesShite he must be a millionaire by now
15 likesYes. He is a great communicator. The O.P.P. (and all of its detectives) is incredible
13 likesMan...
0 likesHe gets $150 per word spoken š¤£
13 likesI don't understand " life in prison without the possibility of parole for 25 years " is that mean only 25 years ?
1 likeReally like I'm at ducking 30 min and the detective is still talking.
11 likes@David Manske no that means after 25 years he will be evaluated by a parole board and he will try to convince them that he has changed and deserves to have his freedom.
25 likesIf denied he will continue serving time until his next parole hearing at 35 years, 45 years and so on. So he likely will never get out of prison but there is a very small chance he will.
@Greg Edwards thank.you
1 like@Rahul Chaudhary Same dude holy shit. I saw your comment at 12 minutes in and thought "there's no way." I can't imagine how JCS sits through hours of this stuff and cuts it for us to watch in more digestible pieces. What a legend.
13 likes@Dervs beat me to it broseph
0 likes"OKAY?"
6 likes@David Manske that means the very first time that he will be allowed to go in front of the board to be released early from his sentence is after 25 years.
1 likeCody, is that you?
0 likesHahaha that was so good
0 likesššš
0 likesWorth every penny. This guy's a beast. Relentless.
5 likesBest comment award š
6 likesLMAO, so wrong, but so true
1 likeHe IS the Canadian economy
1 like@David Manske They must serve 25 years, but can be released on parole after 25 years, or if parole is denied every time, they could be there for life. John Lennon's murderer & Manson family members are 2 examples of notorious criminals who have been up for parole many times since serving their minimum years, but they are still in prison
6 likesYeah i thought the detective talked a lot too! Wasnt it to mentally exhaust the suspect?
1 likeThis detective was one of the most professional ones and we can feel that despite what the person did he is very professional and understanding. We can feel that he has immense belief and commitment in what he is doing.
4 likes@Greg Edwards i donāt think that itās 10 years after between the audition in front of the parole board
0 likes1 penny a word, 5 cent for every "alright"
0 likesThe Worlds richest man right therešā„ļøš
1 likeAnd just moments after completing this interview he was offered early retirement...
0 likes@David Manske It's all legal technicalities. The constitution. He won't be let go though. It's just formalities.
0 likesHe starts out with ALL the interrogation techniques and when that fails, he just keeps on yacking..and yacking.
1 likeHAHAHAHAHAAAA
0 likesClassic! š
0 likesLol
1 likei wouldāve cracked after 5 minutes of him talking to me non-stop, i rather get the chair than listening to a stranger talk to me for that long
0 likesa PLAIN donut! amazing interrogation technique so subversive! šš
1 likeDrinking Game: Take a shot every time the first detective says āokay?ā
0 likesAbsolutely masterful my god I bet the POS bought a used car from him afterwards lol
2 likesI feel like it's always the child predators that cry like that when confronted with what they've done. The emotional capacity of an actual paintbrush. They prey on children to feel powerful but as soon as a normal human adult tries to talk to them about reality their balls shrivel into micro-raisins and they fall apart. Pathetic.
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That's a pretty interesting point... it's as if some who prey on children do so because they are emotionally stunted--- such that interacting (sexually or otherwise) with mature adults is intimidating and unappealing. This would go along with my theory that most pedofiles are sexually abused/scarred as children which may contribute to serious stunting of emotional development.
189 likesI feel like predators obviously lack empathy and the capacity to give or receive comfort /community as a result. They only observe what it looks like when people emote ,in their daily lives and criminal activities. They observe and mirror it for several reasons partly to gain access to victims and then this . When they feel the have a need to engage and gain something from it.Whats so telling to me is the indignation that doesn't really quite suite the circumstances and his display of childlike fear .I'm always amazed by their lack of ability to asses when they're done and their bullshit wont fly .I suppose its linked up with brain chemistry and an inability to absorb what reality (consensus /actual)is.
46 likesmark roberts What in the world does this even mean?
10 likesIve always wondered if it because emotionally they are on the level as a child and maybe that's why they have an attraction to children. Its something I have spent the last few month's looking into. Theres not much out there on the brain function of a predator and they need to do more with studying why. I think they could benefit on finding what part of the brain reacts and how to be able to disable those thoughts and feelings. That way when they get released because most do they won't do it again. They say chemical castration but for some reason I only think that will stop them from being able to have sex. It won't stop them from victimizing kids sexually. Idk how the castration works in relative to sex drive and what not. Again theres not much info on this for the public.
16 likes@Debra Jones oh i totally agree. I'm at a point where if you get caught preying on children you get the death sentence. Im not even sure castration would fix it. They'll still have some kind of attraction and they will find a new way to pleasure themselves with it.
25 likesTheir own body turns on them...
0 likesRplover Good conclusion. I believe it is said that there are two main mental states that child predators enter. The first is one of love. They justify their actions to themselves by telling themselves theyāre in love with their victims and that makes everything okay. The other mental state is that they convince themselves that theyāre children or on the same mental level as a child. So In their opinion everything is innocent and okay. Just two children doing what children do
11 likesI also think they are wise to their futures. They likely will spend their entire time in solitary.... either because someone found out what they are in for, or to protect them from the get go. They know the kind of people they are.
1 likeMONSTERS
2 likesYou nailed it
0 likesIt isnāt about power with pedophiles. They are actually sexually attracted to kids. And that is why they will never stop. They kill because they donāt want a witness or to get caught and they know what they are doing is not ok.
16 likesRplover yes I believe thatās true. But even though it is, I believe most children go through trauma. When we grow up we have to take responsibility for our actions. Jesus can heal us all. He did it for me.
2 likesFawn Whisperer
1 likeEmotional capacity would be huge, yes? āAn actual paintbrushā must be huge to you.
Fawn Whisperer on point!! They ARE!
0 likesFawn Whisperer I feel the same way with all felons. That these sort of people need to feel power because they are such cowards!
1 likeThe hansen vs predator fandom has a few breakdowns of the police interrogation and its similar to this vid. I remember in one, the female interrogator acted like the suspects wife to mess w him. It was cool lol
2 likesFor real, this pansy has No Readon to Cry like a baby. Heās only crying because he got caught (too bad it wasnāt in the USA), the girl too, deserves just as bad as a punishment.
1 likeAnd Iād love to see them both cry, while theyāre being tortured severely in an American prison.
Freaking Sickos! Ugh
Pos pisses me off, big time!
I think that, even in their own minds, the reality of doing such terrible things to a child, someone who is inherently defenseless and morally pure, is so horrifying and shocking that on some level they canāt believe itās real.
2 likesLike, they know itās evil, and that people get sentenced to life in prison for it, but it actually happening and them actually getting caught is just too surreal for them to really prepare for mentally. And when that illusion is shattered, so are they.
That's kinda why. They prey on children because they are pathetic, weak creatures. If they are faced against an adult, most wouldn't be able to do it. It's why most people when they see them crying and upset feel no sympathy for them. It's a pointless act that they try to use.
7 likesRplover Horrific, but fascinating. And why remedial counselling so desperately needs to be a part of their prison sentence. If theyāre ever to be released, this is absolutely necessary to their rehabilitation.
1 likeThat's why they're greenlit in prison with women beaters next. Because they prey on those who can't defend themselves.
1 likeFawn Whisperer šššš
0 likesPsychologists say that some of the most suicidal patients they see are pedos who've been outed. That fall is so complete they are rendered less than infantile.
0 likes@Sam Foley jewish rabbis ? performing rituals on the child ? you mean this ?
1 like@David F these MEN pretend gays ARE SOMETIMES BIG but ALWAYS bullies of the supposed WEAKER ( peaceful ) side.
1 like@THE URANIUM CAFE faun whisper was the women helping him in the car then backstabs him after helping him.
1 like@Long White Mane just your irrational sense of justice .
1 like@CrunchyWolf sure you know. are you one of them ?
1 like@Z Rosaleen A gay guy said this once
1 like@Gully Bull why you SHOUTING ?
2 likesWell said
0 likes@Rdwrer I remember reading somewhere that a large percentage of child molesters say they were molested to gain sympathy, then later admit they lied in prison or therapy. I wish I had the source :^/ but to me this makes more sense than people doing the things that hurt them. My grandmother was molested and so was my male cousin, they are so protective and vehemently angry and sad to this day about what happened to them. Not saying people that are molested never go out and do it themselves but it's just never something I've encountered myself.
2 likes@spaghetti jpeg I think you have a good point there, though it is so hard to say when a hardened criminal/sick person like a child molester is lying, or when they feel it is most benificial to be manipulative about something like abuse. So many things come into play! Do they feel it is advantageous to tell the truth about their abuse at one point and lie to seem harder later? Do they lie about being abused at all as you say and tell the truth later? Is everything they say a mix of lies and truth? Probably depends on the perp. Really you can't ever really tell if a twisted liar is lying. I know some people who have been molested who are upright and not perverse at all as well; sex abuse happens SO MUCH more often than we know. It's bound to produce some extreme cases, and that's why I feel it's safe to assume that many of these people are perverse due to environmental factors like sex abuse. Abuse and neglect of any kind can deeply and permanently scar some children while others somehow come out ok, able to heal for one reason or another. I personally feel that sex abuse is one of the most heinous things that could ever be perpetrated on a child (anyone, but little ones especially) and it always damages in fundamental ways. I suppose that's why it's very believable that most people who are that sick were harmed terribly as children in one way or another, though they deserve no sympathy as adults who offend, in my view. It simply explains some of the causes of these evil things in our world.
1 like@CrunchyWolf That's interesting, and I think it may be true for some pedofiles, though I feel there is a third state, which is one of a complete, unabashed predator. One who gets excitement from preying on the innocent/helpless simply to satisfy their perverse desires. That one is much harder for us to understand and accept, I think, though it is a reality nonetheless.
0 likes@JesusReigns 3:16 I'm glad to hear that about you. Sadly so many will never accept their faults, only living to satisfy their own needs and desires. It is the design of such evil in our world... to spread like cancer starting with the most innocent and vulnerable. But as you say, Jesus can heal and He is King.
0 likes@cranberry noodle I can understand that point of view, but as I get more aquainted with our crim. just. system along with DHS child welfare it seems more and more clear that millions of dollars are already being poured into such programs to little or no avail. Early probation in place of serving a full sentence may be a blessing and an important step in one ex con's life, though the statistics indicate so many more take it as a great opportunity to continue their criminal lives with their undeserved freedom. When all violent criminals are treated as rehabilitatable the ones who can con the system do so and get out to terrorize our neighborhoods once again. While I agree with you that rehabilitation is important, I cannot condone the one size fits all/bleeding heart attitude our criminal justice system presently takes on rehabing and releasing so many dangerous felons back into society.
1 like@A CJ Sociopaths cry? Don't make me laugh dude. Please learn about sociopaths a little better. It's all calculated acting, and they surely know better than us, when and how to act.
0 likes@Char Siu Sounds like you're quoting Ben Shapiro! And I heartily agree.
0 likesi've read a lot of books by profilers and they all say the same thing, child predators are into power and control but lack the confidence it takes to confront an adult woman, so they prey on kids. This is why some of them will target both children and the elderly, since both groups are vulnerable physically.
0 likesHas anyone āhurtā him yet?
0 likesOmg that part was funny af him scoulding the man at the end. saying they have glass cells to make googly eyes just imagine those two idiots with child looking drawn art and googly eyes. they deserve to stay in there XD
0 likesFor those wondering .yeah he will get PC for a while..eventually it will drive him nuts.he will willingly go to gen pop..when he does it's usually the guards themselves let the cell bosses know what hes in for what he did.and turn their back on him when the time comes..he will get a good clobbering for sure at the least..he will go back to PC and then back to gen pop..my friends dad was a guard in a max sec prison for 30 yrs.he told us many stories about sickos like this.and the guards would make sure they got what they deserved..he said once that it was an obligation to him and his guard pals that freaks like these would have some real hard time.
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A lot of places have full chomo units. It depends on the state. Michigan doesnāt even have PC. In some places PC is just a regular unit and not a 24/7 lock down. No idea how it works in Canada but I think heāll have an easier time than if he was in us prisons.
1 likeDamn that sketch was spot on
0 likesIt makes this interrogation SO much sweeter knowing this monster is going through severe opiate withdrawal, while being rapid-fire questioned by the best behavioral science department in the world. Edit Look, let me clarify that I was an addict for two decades and I've been off the needle for over 11 years now. I would never point that out to anyone who is struggling with addiction. But this guy... It's different.
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Oh I guess I missed that part about the withdrawal! Wouldnāt wish that upon anybody, except people like this
130 likes@James Hutson monsters like these deserve far worse than can be inflicted on a mortal body and mind and for that reason alone I hope there is a hell and that it isn't just fire, I want them to live their worst nightmares every waking moment of time allotted to this universe
15 likes@Death I very much agree, 100 trillion percent.
4 likesā@James Hutson yeeaaa my dad was in max security federal prison in the USA for 23 years (armed robbery, multiple states, stacked charges, casinos and banks, no one ever injured tho [lol except the mental hell my dad put my family through]) and in some of the most notorious prisons with some horrible murderers.... and trust me when I say that for the people who are a child molester or even a person who kills kids without violating them, prison is a very scaryyy place to be (as it should be)
20 likes@James Hutson and damn I am glad to be in recovery from heroin and I watched the JCS video the Legend of "Jeff" lol and I felt so bad knowing he was withdrawing, but this guy.... man I hope they didn't even give him some immodium
22 likesI had a feeling he was goin thru it š
5 likesIf that's true, then its only the beginning of his withdrawal. I have went through withdrawal literally hundreds of times (from opiates and benzo`s) and have been clean over 10 years now, but once detox gets bad he would be running to the toilet every 5 minutes, or shitting his pants, so considering he hasn't done that it's just the early stages of withdrawal.
15 likes@Jj Dd Iām a 7 year Xanax addict. Quit since November 2018 but relapsed December 2020 (mixed with alcohol) and the withdrawals nearly killed me. Had to go to the ER. Relapsed again on February this year and went to the ER again. Went to rehab after that. Addiction is no joke. I wish I could stop. I havenāt touched benzos but have been taking other substances almost immediately after I got out of rehab. I hate it. Iām exhausted. I want to stop using. š°š°š°
20 likesBut seriously, fuck this guy.
@April feels bad man im sorry and hope you find your way throu that shit. Im a coke user and i cant stop taking it till i waste all my money... everytime...
8 likes@Jj Dd I struggled with vicodin addiction for over a decade so i can totally empathize with ya. It took me awhile but i very slowly weaned myself off of it. I hope you can eventually do the same with coke because both can be dangerous. Good luck to you!
6 likes@Jj Dd unfortunately benzos/alcohol are the 2 things you can die from (well what i mean is , withdrawal from those 2 things can kill you)
3 likesAs a former opiate addict that went through withdrawal dozens of times, this is a complete and utter nightmare to imagine.
5 likesI'm currently on a medically supervised opiate taper after being on heavy duty painkillers for 20 years, and oh man, it is ROUGH. Believe me when I say that opiate withdrawal is one of the worst things a person can possibly experience.
8 likesSeconds feel like hours. Every last one of your pain receptors is firing on all cylinders, all the time. There isn't even a moment's respite from the constant writhing, vomiting, convulsing, involuntary muscle spasms, fever, and searing pain. Your head feels like it's been split open with an axe. Your face is pouring out fluids, so much so that even if you're lucky enough to fall asleep, you'll just jolt right back awake again in a complete panic as your body thinks you're drowning from all that mucosa filling your airway. And you will exist in that miserabIe state for several weeks, maybe even months.
I was not aware that Michael Rafferty was an opiate addict. I thought he was just dry-heaving and sniffling like that because of anxiety, but let me tell you, I am RELISHING the fact that he's going through all of that.
@Lotek Any tips for me? I'm weaning too, and it's extremely difficult. I'm in the middle of a divorce, my husband moved me overseas and now I have to go fly back to the US with nothing to my name. I don't know if I'll be able to access any of the drug at home, and I am in an utter panic over it. I'm so scared ._.
1 like@Amelia Bee imagine that horror and then imagine youāre being interrogated for killing a kid and the rest of your life will be lived in a glass cage with nobody having any time for you and other inmates trying to kill, maim or blind you.
1 likeI have no sympathy for this piece of sh but itās like quite amusing to see his world crash down entirely. RIP Tori.
Hope you get through the WD mate
@Amelia Bee I have never been through it but I read that sub icons and methadone (comfort meds) can get you through it.
1 like@Amelia Bee what's wild to me is, it depends in what environment I was withdrawing in you know? Say if I'm in jail/rehab.. I don't withdrawal as hard because I know I'm not going to get it, and that I can just try to be at ease with that as fast as possible. But say im trying to get clean by myself at my apartment, getting it was s damn phone call away nd a few miles down the roadššš Obviously I would still go through it, mainly restless legs, no appetite, and exhausted but can't sleep, because when I finally close my eyes, I wake up 15 mins later sweating . I hated that shit, where you just JOLT awake and immediate anxiety takes over and your heart starts racing. It's crazy, when I would withdrawal I felt literally hollow, but I could like feel my insides , it's hard to explain. I could just feel everything and I'd get anxiety over everything. I'd be super sensitive to light , especially fluorescent fucking lights idk why but they made me feel worse it's an odd thing. Talking to ANYBODY was a nightmare because I just felt so vulnerable and exposed. The only reprise would be sitting in a warm shower for as long as possible/stretching my achey fucking muscles. God stretching felt so fucking good for just a few seconds. Man, what a terrible thing
4 likes@James Hutson hey, i hope this isnāt intrusive... may you please try to describe what withdrawal feels like physically & psychologically? watching youtube videos feels fabricated, iād like to understand the truth š you donāt have to answer if youāre uncomfortable
0 likesThis is eventually what I want to do after I graduate :3
1 like@April I can understand every word of that, lmk if you find the way out
1 likeoh, yeah the blanket and threw up, missed it somehow
0 likes@Heather McNally you are correct, some of the worst criminals have morals and child abuse is something they dont put up with. I was a PO for 7 yrs and had to help clean one of those vile pos brains off the concrete and the inmate who did it was actually rewarded by the other guards lol usually i would be appalled by behavior like that but when its a child abuser i feel absolutely no empathy. Let me state clearly tho that guards dont turn a blind eye unless there is absolutely no doubt in their guilt. Dna evidence, video footage etc of child abuse is a direct way to make your life absolute hell so if you're one of these pieces of shit dont act on it cuz ull get caught and end up in a prison full of murderers waiting to get their hands on your vile ass. Seg wont save you. Guards work with inmates to ensure you end up where your suppose to be, you have no chance in hell of being protected 24/7 forever.
0 likes@Daniel Curry when I've been in withdrawal 24 hours is the point where it starts to get worse and worse not better.
4 likes@April hang in there mama..You can do this!!!!
3 likes@April if you have been addicted physically to xanax before, does your body remember and go through withdrawals if you use it even once after that? Im genuinely asking bc from what I'm reading it seems like it's just as addicting as heroin!
1 likeIs there a video part of him going through withdrawal? Or that he would be going through withdrawal?
0 likes@April know what youāre going through. Iām a 5 1/2 year PERCOCET addict. I wake up depressed every day. I sit in the dark EVERY DAY bc Iām so depressed and so tired of taking this bullš©. Rehab is wayyy to expensive in Dallas Texas (which rehab shouldnāt cost a dime š) Iām just ready to STOP!!!!
2 likes@April where are you located? Wish I could talk to someone like you. Hopefully if u see this you could text me I need help and nobody is Listening.
1 like@April Hello April. Your story sounds much like mine. Xanax is a rough one. You got this. Much love from Texas.
2 likesLooks like pretty mild withdrawal to me.
0 likes@Shady Sheister no they will put the asswipe in PC. Maybe a work crew will "accidentally" cross paths with his crew but highly unlikely.
0 likes@Heather McNally Georges McNally?
0 likesLol just when they showed there pictures for the first time my internal judging of books by their covers thought.. heroin junkies lol
0 likes@LuxLoose yeah and I hope the me that did it gets the same treatment. Just because it is technically me doesn't mean I need to feel sympathy for them. Kind of a pointless thing to bring up, honestly. I love that theory but when your character diverges that far you can't really consider it you anymore, it's not the same person at all even if you look the same. I get what you're saying, but if you want to talk about that and have people be interested, it's probably not the best move to say, "hey that could be you there who committed these atrocities." Yes and no. Either way, it's just a weird thing to say. It's a bad look.
0 likes@LuxLoose I was in a bad mood yesterday, sorry. I am interested in it, just wasn't in the mood at the time and in my head it felt like you were defending a pedophile and murderer by saying it could be anyone. My bad
0 likes@LuxLoose reasoning falls short of emotion a majority of the time, unfortunately. Yes, life sucks though.
0 likes@James Hutson Supposedly he extorted his mother and grandmother to death. His mom ended up dying at 60 from...heart failure I believe. His grandmother died soon after. His own family wants him to stay in prison forever (depending on thr accuracy of the reports on him and his family)
0 likes@April itās definitely a battle. Good luck on your journey. Iām on day 6 of Fty withdrawal and itās been horrid.
1 like@ćć¼ć”ćć i absolutely agree it got worse until at least day 3 for me before i felt like it was easing.
0 likesThank you for pointing that out!
0 likesIt warms my heart.
I've gone through severe opiate withdrawal following surgeries.
It is hell.
I hope his and that woman both live life and eternity suffering.
He is not even paying attention bec all he feels is that sickness who is killing him inside so he fighting with both !!
0 likesThat explains the nausea and lack of appetite. I didn't think it was nerves.
0 likesWhere did it say he was going through opiate withdrawal? Are you mixing up other interrogations on this channel?
0 likes@xothobo Have you not read ANY of these comments describing the symptoms? Hands down, you Do. Not. Ever. Ever. Ever. Want to go through a severe or even a minor opiate withdrawal. Life ceases to ever be the same again. Even after the physical withdrawal is over, that's just the beginning.
0 likes@You're Right I am right. i did read some, but they were superficial & brief. so i decided to skip most of them and just plain out ask
0 likesBeen through opiate withdrawal more times than I can count, so I can say, he definitely suffered like he deserved during the interrogation. Back on pain meds, due to intolerable pain, but at least I won't be interrogated by detective talk-a-lot the next time I go through withdrawal, and be facing prison.
0 likes@Finished!!!!!!, yeah, you really can't see inner suffering on the outside of someone's body. Not to mention, he is in the early stages of withdrawal.
0 likesI get the techniques etc. But geez if this guy just stopped taking for one second.
1 likeThis cop is a better man than me. I couldn't treat that killer as human. They would be cuffing me up for choking the life out of this monster.
1 likeHe said hes scared hes gonna lose his life after this investigation....huh....that sounds weird
0 likesJim Smyth is a Legend
0 likesāI didnāt do anythingā
2353 likesāWeāll thatās not entirely true, is it?ā
Love the Canadian investigstors
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You should see the other investigator that comes in later.
27 likesCanadian detectives are top tier
31 likesAs soon as I heard him talking I thought to myself: this sounds local maybe.
9 likesThen as soon as I heard him say Guelph it clicked they're Canadians - I live in the same province. It's amazing how I hear an accent in the investigator yet don't speak the same tongue.
@Dave TheScrub do Canadians have regional accents to one another? because to Americans you all sound the same whether from Ontario or BC
7 likes@Ryan O'Laughlin We do indeed. Some are less obvious than others, but generally we can tell
12 likes@Ryan O'Laughlin nah these guys are just really canadian, i and most other people just speak normal plain english
1 like@Ryan O'Laughlin, I agree. Also, I understand that there are many regional accents in the UK but to my ears, unless there is a very dramatic difference in the way an individual speaks, it all sounds the same. Australian accents, too. I can't say which region anyone is from based on hearing them speak.
1 like@E G Really? I'm Canadian and I can definitely hear differences between English accents. Unless they're from London, Essex, or Newcastle, I can't identify the regions (and even then I'm iffy) but I can tell that they're not the same. I recently met a lady from northern England (I forget where exactly) who now lives in Canada and she said that when people try to guess where she's from, they never guess England because it sounds different from the London accent we're used to hearing in movies. And then obviously there's also Scotland which sounds very different as well and Wales which I think sounds less different but definitely not the same as a London accent.
3 likes@Momera, I can kind of tell the general region with Canadian accents. I think I can at least. Lol I know the "Newfie" accent bc there's a youtuber that speaks that way. And I believe the lightest of Canadian accents is in the west, British Colombia, only bc I hear celebrities from there speak and they sound more neutral. I could probably get lucky and guess at the others. As for the British accents, Liverpool (Liverpudlian?) and Cockney are the only two I can identify right off. The rest sound the same LOL
1 likeThese boys make me proud to be in their province.
2 likesThe āyou havenāt touched your dOnutā line still cracks me up
5 likes@Ryan O'Laughlin very much so. Check out a video of a Newfoundland accent
0 likesCanada is the most multi ethnic nation ever. We have the most accents.
0 likesP.s our federal policy is "non nationalism" or "post-nationalism".
Canadian? Haha, investigators are supposed to be nice so the people dont get freaked out and hide more info...
0 likes@Ryan O'Laughlin Nova Scotia and prince Edward island and Montreal Quebec Newfoundland the most distinctive ones
0 likesLol, "Look at you... Okay? You haven't touched your donut. Aright? Because your guts are eatin' yourself up inside. Okay?" šš
0 likes@E G Australia has a low variance in accents. English accents are fucking bonkers though. Yorkshire to Scouse to Geordie to RP to West Country to Cornish all sound insanely different. American accents has some pretty significant variance but not that much inside that small of a geographical region.
1 likeThis isn't a parking ticket. You got that right inspector.
0 likesoh my God this is where I live I didn't even realize this happened
0 likesIf him finishing nearly all sentences with 'okay' is a psychological wearing tactic its working
0 likesHat off to the people who have to study monsters like this piece of garbage. I couldn't do it
2 likesLegend has it the detective is still in that room talking
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This took me out ššš
22 likesHaha š that comment cracked me up
5 likesAmazing comment!š¤£
4 likes@bashar Stats the detective is??
2 likesOMG HILARIOUS!!!! š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
2 likesThey just send in whoever they wanna get a confession from
5 likesI swear he sounds just like Agent Smith from the Matrix
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1 likehahahahahahahahahahaha...well done!
2 likesLegend has it he is still getting mikes food š„
3 likesHe should make a podcast
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1 likethis is so good š¤£š¤£š¤£
1 likehe's calling him by phone every day
2 likesHe literally fried my brain listening him
1 like@Biljana Zafirovska right! Had me confessing and Iāve never even met these people!š¤£
1 likeHaha
1 likeIt's like the old Tom and Jerry cartoon where Tom is singing rock-a-bye-baby to Spike forever.
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1 likeI never feel good laughing at any of the comments in horrific event cases but oh dear god this had me cackling š¤£
1 likeWell I don't think he lost his job so probably š
0 likesHe isn't paid by the hour he's paid by the word
0 likes@Amit Singh send him to Perkins!!!š
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0 likesNo dÅbt abÅt that
0 likesHaha! āKeeping your mouth shut is the best thing that can happenā ššš
0 likesThis is why i could never do a job like this, mike would leave the room on a stretcher or in a body bag
0 likesThe first interrogator is the same who nailed down Russel "Underwear Weirdo" Williams
1 likeāYour not built for this s**tā LMAO š¤£
2 likesThis detective is like 40 years old with 50 years experience
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Some careers you're born for. Or some lives make careers perfect for you.
950 likesOne brain cell left over 21 years
101 likesah, so he is the guy they were talking about in those job requirements
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1 like@Midnight Phister balding doesn't mean much. I know plenty of people who's balding started in their late 20's
77 likes@Fictatious he/she must be one of them
3 likes@WeeStrom CO Guy You're not necessarily wrong here. I mean, look at Trump. He's got more than half a century of work experience but still absolutely nothing between the ears. Heck, look at yourself, you know what it takes to run a business but obviously not a clue about what it takes to run a country, so you must know exactly how Trump feels.
68 likes@WeeStrom CO Guy Actually, I worked my way through university, working a FT and PT job in addition to a paid teaching assistant job. Then, having graduated magna cum laude, it was not difficult for me to get scholarships and grants to fund my further studies. So, no, I don't have student debt. My work is focused on analyzing disease and trauma in human skeletal remains and has numerous applications, from forensics to medicine to public health. Plus, I get to travel around the world, have access to places that 99.9% of the public will never see, and experience other cultures in a way that vacationers can't even imagine. My life is immensely satisfying, my career is exciting, and I can easily say that I'm living my dream.
14 likes@WeeStrom CO Guy Oh, btw, you're commenting on a Criminology video, so if you're looking for career choices for an anthropologist, look no further. Criminology and forensics are certainly two major applications for our body of knowledge.
9 likes@WeeStrom CO Guy I was commenting on the pure, hilarious irony of how you yourself pulled the bot card and then immediately tried to make fun of others for doing the same. I would suggest that you read it again but I don't really think that reading comprehension is your issue. I think it's more an overall comprehension problem.
11 likesEdit: just noticed you went back and deleted the comment accusing me of being a bot after I called you out on it and this was you trying to pretend it never happened. Pathetic š¤£. Thanks for this convo, it was pure comic gold.
@LLCooL L Yet here you are, arguing in the comments section of a YouTube vid.
35 likes@Jennifer S Call it a guilty pleasure. Not that wasting 15 minutes of my life responding to this guy somehow invalidates me or something.
13 likes@LLCooL L yall tripping just chill homies š
26 likesYa heās unreal
1 like@LLCooL L lol u guys will never agree so my opinion eat pancakes
23 likesOne brain cell left oof
1 likeit's what could be considered a raid boss detective
1 like@LLCooL L donāt argue with trumpsters, reason doesnāt exist for them. let it go, theyāre good people deep down, somewhere. i hope.
14 likesBoth of them
0 likes@WeeStrom CO Guy lmao
0 likesHe must be that software developer every company is looking for
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0 likes@Fictatious I started going bald in my teens
0 likesbro is as good as it gets and professional af
0 likesI love to be from Ontario
1 likeLove the canadians and what they have to talk aboot hehe
2 likesIt's scary shit, man. You can gain more experience than most officers, interrogators, and even be better than a lie detector if you stay hard-boiled in the face of the most heinous. Scary shit having to think about what this man has been through, and I don't doubt his claims about experiencing worse.
2 likesExactly!!!š
0 likes@LLCooL L I'm also one of those dreaded experts who has a guilty pleasure for YouTube comment arguments lol
2 likes@Geordie Zinn uh... like millions did last I checked.. and twice.
0 likes@LLCooL L Sorry about that.
0 likesfor real. he didn't mention it in the video, but this is the same interrogated who caught russel williams. there used to be a video on him on this channel but it was taken done for some reason
1 like@LLCooL L I know this is an older comment. Regardless good for you! More people need to have your work ethic.
4 likesHahahaaaa and so true
0 likesUnless you're falsely accused for some reason
1 likewhy did this comment thread turn into political debate. canāt people just have their own opinions and live their lives? god damn. i donāt know why people canāt just respect opposing opinions and go on with their lives, thereās no gain in being hurt by the fact someone likes a political figure you donāt agree with š
4 likes@Fictatious my maths teacher is 26 and legit became bold than applying neir for 80min
0 likesYou win buddy wittiest comment on YouTube I love u bro made my day
0 likesI tried to like this twice
0 likesSeems like the kinda guy perfect for "entry level" positions which require a 10 year degree and 5 years of experience.
0 likeshe's the dream subject for every employer
0 likesHe had a lot of overtime
0 likes@williegates Today I learned that a seed loan of multiple millions of dollars in cash and who knows how much in property, along with years of bailing out by daddy's money counts as "self-made." What a smoothbrained take.
2 likesHow is he 40 years old with 38 years of experience
1 likeAll these guys bring up Paul Bernado
2 likes@LLCooL L actually they deleted all of their comments.
0 likesyeah seriously!! i was thinking the same thing.
0 likesI hope he's not a flash in the pan. I hope they're traning dozens, hundreds of interrogators to these standards world wide.
0 likes@KrissyRose Animallover2021 wHaTS A bRaIN CeLl?!?!
0 likesI'm thinking he's 50 with 100 years experience. Why! Bc he paid attention.
0 likesMakes sense, with all the overtime he's raking in
0 likesRadio 4Men the narrator explained the strategy behind his rambling if you listened
0 likesThey got nothing. You could put a homless person with a suit on in that room and get the same outcome
0 likes@LLCooL L thats so cool, maybe i should do something like that and look at diseases because i really like biology. Are you paid well?
0 likesDetective Mobius
0 likes@Surfer Bob thanks for giving me a stoke and putting me in a hospital, now i dont have to do my exam
0 likesBuddy started cases in the womb
0 likesIsnāt he the same detective who interrogated Russell Williams?
0 likes@M M wat you mean?
0 likesI think he was not really good. He did nothing
0 likes@Flusterette iām
0 likesThat makes sense coming from the guy with one brain cell left. The math adds up.
0 likes@YouTube has Taken over my life it's a hyperbole š¤·āāļø you know a exaggeration to create poetic license in the sentence
0 likesHe interrogated the doctor delivering him for his qualifications lmao
0 likesThis man alone adds an additional 70+ years to the workforce
0 likesBut thats not possible. If he lived 40 years he can, if he was born at work, have at maximum 40 years of experience. š„ø
0 likesNo he's just Canadian
0 likesLol
0 likesHonestly... If u did what he did, what more is there really to say š¤
0 likesIf all that rambling was supposed to cause mental exhaustion, well, it seemed to work on me.
1 likeNow heās going to suffer for the rest of his existence. šš„
1 likeThat poor little girl just wanted to see a puppy. š
He was all gas no breaks on dude gave him no time to gather his thoughts A+ work
0 likesI swear composite sketch artists are some of the most talented people on earth. Itās incredible how well they can put together a persons face just based off some fuzzy footage or some vague descriptions.
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Yeah they were so close it was incredible
27 likesikr!! that's why as an artist who really likes true crime, being a composite sketch artist is my dream job
6 likes@Favorable Mortal I was thinking āwho actually looks like thatā and then somehow the match existed perfectly lmao
12 likesItās sad that they might be phased out by breakthroughs in the technology of genetics. They can make your face based off of a single piece of DNA evidence. Maybe use sketch artists and this technology in concert š¤ because I agree they are brilliant.
5 likesI agree. Theres a case close to me. The Delphi,IN murders of Libby & Abby. Its been 4 years!:( one of the girls was sharp & took a video & audio of their killer. But still..no arrest:/ check the case out. Unfortunately the sketches are way 2 different ones. One is older one is younger. The man in the video doesnt look young. Check it out and lmk what you think. Blessings & stay safe my friend ā”
3 likes@Native American Feather i heard about that case!! apparently, there was this guy who got arrested for keeping a girl in his basement and many people suspect he could've been the guy in the photo. he had a tiktok account so he spoke a lot, and i saw people trying to analyze his voice with the voice from the audio recording, and it sounded so similar in my opinion...
2 likesand it was totally off
0 likesI swear they have sight like in the fantasy novels.
2 likesAfter convicted and spent some 2 decades or less he will come out for good behaviour.... This sentence is an Insult to all police shƩrif and agent, work to the trouble and problem with the process of seeing, digesting, processing the visual effects of all murder for later some psychological appraiser comfortably seated in the cabinet summarizes that their sanity is recovered....
0 likesFavorite quotes: "This isn't some to-do list, this is much more serious than that."
0 likes"Okay??"
"You can barely eat or drink, you haven't touched your donut." Dyingš
The bad cop was sensational š¤£š¤£
1 likeWonder when we are going to hear the story of a prison hero?
0 likesThis kind of crime is unimaginably disgusting, the amount of rage I feel towards these two is indescribable. May tori rest peace.
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Agreed this makes my stomach turn
8 likesI just found this channel and of the 5 or so videos Iāve watched this was the only one I almost turned off.
4 likes@Norwegian Cat 8 year old children are your thing? Okay Epstein calm down
7 likes@Norwegian Cat Just delete that comment and watch out for FBI visit tomorrow...
2 likesAmericas new law is guilty til proven innocent, trial by media. Thatās why we ask for her a lawyer present before talking. Thank God this guy talked so her family can have closure knowing this monster will rot in jail
1 likeI 100 percent support real police going after real criminals.
0 likesplease, I love your videos!! come backkkk, Im running out of your videos, LOL I've watching all of them, Come back ! You are soo Good, best channel ever.
1 likehow do detectives sit in the same room as these people? I feel sick just by looking at this. I can't believe some people are this fcked
0 likesInterrogator Jim Smyth was also the one who brilliantly interrogated Col. Russell Williams. What a GOAT!
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SHELLBACKS CLUB š¢ factsssss
7 likesJust watched that video. He killed it. Insane he was able to get that kind of confession in less than an hour. Thatās insanely impressive, he is a master in his craft for sure
130 likesA shame they never interviewed him for the Russel Williams segment, they really should have as opposed to just other experts
12 likesI just finished the good ol' Russ video before starting this one, absolutely agree Mr. Smyth is a legend.
25 likesI don't think there's any job in the world I would find more difficult to do than his. Even the bad cop in this case, what an insane talent. Its like acting, except your mistakes can permanently ruin lives and the entire time you just want to throw up from disgust.
18 likes@James Chebahtah I don't know why there was a hour timer because that was a five hour interrogation.
6 likesSHELLBACKS CLUB š¢ the guy is a machine
2 likesHe's a beast
4 likesWhat a fucking boss!
6 likesGoat? Baaaaaaaaa
1 likeSHELLBACKS CLUB š¢ I thought it was.
0 likes@OGKB seeker Had a conscience? Um, do you know what he did?
8 likesššš
0 likesWondered why I recognised the voice
1 likeI heard he even interviewed the actual shmeeda
0 likesHe is amazing. He is doing Gods work, putting these horrible people away forever.
7 likesHe really is great at this. The tone of his voice is killer...
2 likesWas he really?? Hory shet. Dudes literally the GOAT
1 likeTotal Sweetheart G.O.A.T
6 likesGreatest Of All Time.
And wasn't that case an eye opener!
0 likesenkibumbu I think he mistook 'conscience' for 'conscientiousness.' Russel Williams was a very conscientious man, hence how he was manipulated into a confession. The detective used his sense of 'communal good' against him. He made him believe that confessing was for the benefit of the community and his wife. He had no empathy for his victims, however - a conscience.
4 likesI like turtles
1 likehe baae
0 likesNO WAY!!!!!! interesting fact
0 likesJames Chebahtah the Russell interrogation was not under an hour. It was a few. It was edited for time.
1 likeChris Mitchell I guess he was interrogated in different segments. They may stop and leave him stewing for an hour and then reset the clock
0 likesšSick Boyš it's not him doing the bulk of the interrogation tho. He came in briefly a few times.
0 likesSJ Percy it's not him. He came in briefly playing bad cop. The interrogator doing the majority is a different guy entirely
0 likesSome say Jim is so good at this because he spends all of his time practicing interrogation and none of the time at the pool. That's why Jim can't swim. ;)
0 likesOh shit! I just watched that last night, I didn't even realize! Haha
0 likesHe'd probably get me to confess things I didn't even do as long as he had a Tim Hortons coffee black with sugar waiting for me.
0 likesDoes Jim Smith have more recorded interviews? Iād love to just study this man, not necessarily as much the ppl he interviews.
0 likes@Andrew Lion What is "shmeeda?" I began using "AF" until my 35 year old son saw a post I made. My son said, "Don't use letters you don't know what they stand for. For the love of God, mom." smh :(
1 likeI just watched this and he's new to me but wow, I'm ready to confess anything to him. He's good.
0 likesI thought this guy seemed familiar
0 likesSJ Percy I was thinking the same thing
0 likes@bowtech1020 Jim is the "bad cop" that comes in.
0 likes@Gordon Freeman OK I see now my bad
0 likes@James Chebahtah
1 likeActually the Russell Williams interrogation was about 10 hours.
Williams finally confessed at about 5 or 6 hours if I remember correctly and then recounted the crimes.
Only 2 hours and 56 minutes of the entire 10 hours were released.
Did you not notice that some parts jumped and some didn't make sense?
@Total Sweetheart
0 likeslol... dummy...
goat stands for greatest of all times... honestly...
He gotta start training a lot of these officers lol
0 likesPlease. Call him Russ.
0 likesThe detective said we all make mistakes. That may be true. But raping and killing an 8-year-old little girl is not a mistake. May God bless the little Tori and her family.
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I don't think you have understood how interrogation techniques work.
0 likes@Lulu MariĀ I actually do. It's just painful to listen to sometimes. As far as the tactics the detectives have to use to get a confession out of these people, let's not miss the big picture here. A little girl was brutalized and discarded like trash by a heartless monster. So please forgive me if I came across so emotional.
2 likesThat demon will stand before God and receive an eternal sentence for what he did to that helpless child.
0 likesLmao itās the fake vomit for me, gang
0 likesHeās gonna puke when he thinks itās gonna get him out of the situation but not so much as a gag when he whips out the bucket and says āIāve seen worse, go aheadā
Off topic but that ā we all make mistakes thatās why pencils have erasersā line now , that is a insta caption
0 likesCanadian torture tactics:
52758 likes- tea WITH ONLY ONE SUGAR
- donut WITHOUT GLAZE
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Hahahaha ššš fucking hell, dying here.
1808 likesLmfao dont forget it's all from Timmy Horton's too.
1175 likesthe us police brutality cases pale in comparision with canadian police
1399 likesHilarious!
101 likes-give him a blanket
1943 likes-make fun of his blanket
Persecution during an interrogation doesn't get confession leading to more money being spent bringig cases to trial and lower conviction rates. When they realise they aint getting any confession from rafferty thats when they open up on him
122 likesoh he'll be getting lots of glaze when he goes to prison
626 likesKristin Pezzuto I know right?!? Whatās next? Waffles with no maple syrup?
185 likesHey!!! Dats wat works,eh!!? Don't go gettin jealous or I'll set da Mounties on ya.... š š šš“š©āšØš¦š
58 likesyou have no idea how true that is
20 likesWe give our child murderers haggis here in Scotland if they don't tell us what happened. No need for the death penalty. It has a 99.9% success rate š
166 likeslmao
14 likesCorrect. We call it "sugar hoarding".
51 likesAs a stoner that would be hell for me
43 likesTea with ANY sugar is an abomination.
112 likesI'm gonna need a content warning before reading that kind of explicit material.
62 likesMexico is also pretty easy on people. My ex stabbed his cousin to death went back to Mexico to visit family. The police snatched him up said "its been 15 years, you need to do your time"
47 likesHe did his time for 1 year.
Granted it was self defense but the judge asked everyone who seen it at the time to sign a letter he wrote about what happened. They did. He got out.
Now yes it was self defense but he kept stabbing him after he was dead.
I didn't know this til after I was with him for 4 years.
He had PTSD from it. He finally told me. But still.. 1 year.
He never hurt me but still. It's in there. You know.
I knew they were from Canada when they used said āA Boatā kept being referenced instead of āaboutā
50 likes@Invincible Beauty I really hope you aren't with him anymore, sounds dangerous... Overkill, I would have a hard time killing someone even in self defense but to go into a rage and just keep stabbing that's scary
20 likesššš
4 likesDonāt forget offering food, assuring multiple times theres nothing wrong with eating, and then when he sayd he wants food just leaving the room for an hour
55 likesI mean what kinda deranged system gives NO GLAZE DONUTS
37 likesand they arent polite lmaooo
3 likeslol š
3 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG I 2nd that! Criminals get too many rights unlike the victims
25 likesLmao
3 likesStrangely, Canadian torture tactics seem to work brilliant.
20 likesStrangely, Canadian torture tactics seem to work brilliant.
8 likes@David Parry you are F'ing hilarious
2 likes@terpinhawgin666 it's the bit that Timmy H's was going to throw away. The cold tea, the one last mangled packet of sugar. The plain, stale, hard doughnut. Them bitches were cold with that tactic. Cold as ice.
37 likesKristin WITHOUT GLAZE!? D:
12 likes"You've barely touched yer donut!" :(
53 likes@Jen K a while ago everyone was saying 'ironically' that they wanted to die/kill themselves so I believe it's related to that. u know people these days just don't want to live anymore
10 likes@Cheyenne MacPhail I'm against the death penalty until there is absolutely no chance of wrongful conviction.
29 likesI'd rather let legitimate criminals rot in jail and give innocent men the chance to be exonerated.
Solid comment
4 likesPeni Parker lol thisss
1 likeHehe
1 likeFunny...
2 likesHot dog with not bread..
8 likesThe savagery of the Canadian torturers..
11 likesThe cops licked all the glaze off the donut before giving it to him.šš
37 likesI should get a boyfriend so wonderfull. "Why thank you, I'll have some milk with it becsuse I'm form P.E.I.".
0 likesItās called an old fashion plain š
11 likesThey're very manipulative like that. lol Seriously, it's all part of the manipulation.
9 likes0123 9547 Thatās just incredibly sad... I donāt even know what to say. I canāt even imagine having to grow up in these times with the internet Iāll give you that. I really wish school systems would integrate free counselling. It gets better, I promise. Once youāre an adult you get to choose your life. Hang in there!
15 likesThatās still a lot different from telling someone else to do it though. Saying it to yourself is low self esteem. Saying it to others is bullying. Both are sad but you donāt have the right to try to put your sadness or self hatred onto others. Get help and focus on the only thing you have control over...YOU!
@Patrick L if only it really was torture. His case maybe, but a cop killer gets celebrity status and treated with nothing but respect by their peers. It's sad and hard to discern who will actually get what they deserve.
3 likesššš
2 likesHahahaha! I'm nearly falling off my chair here laffing!
5 likes0zaine0 a cop killer is a hero!!
2 likesš«š«ššššš
2 likesThat's brutal, eh?
8 likesHAHAHAHAHHAH
3 likesHa. Clever girl.
3 likesI had no idea the Salty Spitoon was a Canadian establishment.
5 likesMonsters. Ciggs but is marbol light
3 likesI don't even get cold tea without sugar when I'm in school
2 likesTime to get tuff then with beasts like Rafferty.:=(
2 likesHAHAHHAAHAHA
1 likemessing with his head during the interrogation is the good news compared to what he's done and what is his future.
3 likesKristin hey, hey, hey where's the disturbing content warning for that comment?
5 likesThey usually crack by lunchtime.
4 likes* And then APOLOGIZES for it
0 likesIt's practically Guantanamo Bay
5 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG lmao!! We could save millions!!!
0 likesHahaha, that's so funny ehh???!!!
0 likesA plain donut is a bagel but whatās a plain bagel
1 likeMonsters
1 likeOkay.
0 likes@Jen Dark Energy 384400 I dunno. I had haggis in Scotland once. It was pretty tasty.
2 likes@stephan Roller boats are super popular in Canada. And Moose. They like moose too.
0 likes@Jen K you were nagging and lecturing men on another video. Seriously, lady, go get a life and control yourself. Stop trying to control total strangers on the internet.
6 likes- foot massage WITH ONE HAND
1 likeššššš
0 likeslt x I saw a Canadian Cop show and the Canadian police were off the chain. Wild bunch up there!!
1 like@OCS DEVIL DOG Because you need a legal process/trial to determine there is INDISPUTABLE evidence. I know it is tempting. But you gotta dot the i's and cross to t's if you want to live civilization. It can slip into a vigilante cycle fast.
5 likesPeni Parker OMG Peni, my guts hurt from laughing š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesLmao
0 likesGet oooott ššš
2 likesThats when its good to be a king of improvising......sugar on the donut and dunk that joint in the tea! Then tell the cop to Rub It On Your Chest (RIOYC)
0 likesthe way the detective says "&ya haven't even touched your dOnut"
3 likesI like unsweetened tea and plain donuts. You'll never catch me, mounties.
9 likes@tropezando blasphemy!
3 likesOmg I sooo needed this lol moment...sitting in family court lyk šæš„ŗš¤¬
1 likeš
0 likesLmao
0 likesOCS DEVIL DOG its just a tactic
0 likesNo internet for 2 "Ow-wers".
1 like@Peni Parker Roflmbo
0 likesPancake without syrup.
1 likeššššš
0 likes@David Parry It's who makes the distinction that is the problem.
0 likes@stephan Roller We dont say "A BOAT" we say "ABOOT"
2 likesAnd didnt give him Tom Horton coffee.....
0 likesš¤£š¤£š
0 likesWaffles without maple syrup.
2 likesStrip bacon. Not Canadian bacon.
Is this the same guy who interrogated Russell Williams?
4 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG The justice system does that with a sampling of humanity as a whole (the jury)
2 likes100%
0 likesIt's called liberalism! If it was up to them, they'd get probation!
2 likesš
0 likes@babscabs1987 my dad would proudly agree.
0 likesRich Hogg ...umm, when did they actually open up on him....must have missed that part.
2 likesKristin look under ānewest firstā comments, I leave one about Canadian penitentiaries, youāll be SHOCKED.
0 likesDamn, I read this comment before the I saw that part.
0 likeslmao š
ššš
1 likeShake shit or puke š
5 likesThen there's tea with no sugar... Canadian waterboarding!!
3 likesLol ššš
0 likes@Jen K amen šš»
1 likeLol ill talk, Iāll talk. Just add 2 more cubes of sugar please
1 likeKristin š¤”OMG š„“šššššššššššš
0 likesMastodonManiac ššš
0 likes@James Ko The second guy is.....Jim Smyth.
0 likes@Dawn Wride oh, I haven't seen too many interrogations, but the OPP kill it in the two that I watched (Russell Williams, and this guy). True detectives.
3 likesya havent tooouched yer dooonut, bud
1 like@Mustafa Wanq Dead island!!! Omfg I'm dying š¤š¤Æš
0 likes@Cheyenne MacPhail The girlfriend deserves it as well!
3 likesLMAO
0 likes@You Wish You bet, plus they know that the murderer stopped and bought a tea and doughnuts from Tim Horton's while he had Tory in the car on their drive to the murder site. They're not doing this to be nice, they're doing this to mess with his head and get him rattled to confess
7 likes@James Ko Yes, the second guy who came in I believe
2 likes@Invincible Beauty
1 likeSo how is it getting off easy if it was self defense...
@lt x what it fuck did that have to do with anything being discussed here?
0 likes@RealCanadianGirl huh. Thanks for telling me that. It's super interesting.
1 likeSend in Bob and Doug Mc Kenzie with a Tim Hortons haul!
1 likeThis is a terrible disgusting case BUT this comment made me burst out LAUGHING.
1 likeHA! I love your sense of humor! You made me laugh, thank you. š
1 likeDonuts without glaze is just savage
3 likesKirsten. That's funny.
1 likeDonuts without glaze? That's been illegal since the sixties!
4 likes@Jen Dark Energy 384400 Hahaha. You taught me something! I just had to look up haggis. Yum. Not. I see why y'all would feed them that for torture! Lmao
3 likes@Erin Rae Haha! Yeah. Some people love it, some hate it. As a previous comment said it's actually not bad tasting it tastes nice, if you can get over what it's made from, which I simply cannot. š If you liked learning about haggis I encourage you to Google 'Black Pudding' too..šHave fun with that. Lol
2 likes@Stoic Observer Yeah it tastes nice I'm a cook here in Scotland so I used to prepare it alot, just not my thing. 'Awful' as these foods are called are enquired taste delicacies. Thank you for being open minded about our national dish šsorry I just seen you had replied to me.
1 likeI will check it out. Thanks hun. š
0 likesrealcanadiangirl64 definitely!
0 likesSaying ABOOT instead of about.
0 likes@lt x are you joking? Thats far from true
0 likesHe offered him a cooked meal.
0 likesHahahaha, your funny.
0 likesWhen I saw it was from Timmies I cracked tf up
0 likes@Jen K when you talk all I hear is, "RRRREEEEEEEEEE."
2 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG due process is for everyone. Even the most heinous people. There's a reason we have systems such as this instead of lynchings and burning at the stake.
3 likes@terry gunderson oh the sheer horror. Who knew Canadians could be so cruel.
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG not true at all stop gaslighting
0 likesJen Dark Energy 384400 Iām not even Scottish but haggis isnāt that bad.
0 likesA plate full of donuts with no glaze would instantly fuck me up.
1 likeFuck it Iāll tell you what you wanna hear just find me some flavor
Rofl!
0 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likes@Joyful trees š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likes- Jim Smyth
0 likes@terpinhawgin666 this is how you break a person
0 likesYa! i Know HEY!, us Canadians torture even more with Maple syrup, its like waterboarding on the tongue !!!
0 likesThe donut without glaze would kill me tbh
0 likesAnd no apologies
1 likeLol
0 likesGoddamn. šššššš
0 likes@lt x The police brutality in Saudi Arabia is far worse, or any other Islamic country. You know, where you get tortured for being gay. And women get stoned for showing their ankles. So called "police brutality" in America is EXTROIDINARILY uncommon, and the fact that people believe it's some kind of "epidemic" goes to show how much influence the American media has.
0 likesš¤£š¤£
0 likesA Krispy without glaze and cream. I can handle that but the tea with only one spoon full of sugar would be torture for me lol. But this sicko deserve alot more than that.
0 likesIn the civilised world, people don't drink tea with sugar.
0 likes@Jen Dark Energy 384400
1 likeMaking inmates eat haggis is crueler than a death sentence lol! Although, some state prisons here in the USA give the misbehaving inmates something called Nutraloaf. It is basically extremely bland over cooked meatloaf with no gravy. Itās not that bad the first few meals but some guys that are habitually breaking rules eat it everyday, every meal for months. They only get water to drink with it too which makes it extra bland. (My source is many of my family members work/worked as corrections officers in a county jail and they get a lot of inmates that come back from state prison during their court appeals and deputies that used to be state prison guards)
@OCS DEVIL DOG And make it easy on him by saving him from spending decades of existence in suffering and damnation? Who's side are you on anyway?
2 likesOblivionWalker boiled and then baked bread in a circle shape with a hole in the middle. š„Æ
0 likesEh there bucko guy...
1 likeGlazed donuts suck fite me
0 likesAssassin without sweetness...
0 likes@Kristin in my own language for proper semantics and adjectives so,you my dearest: Essa excitaĆ§Ć£o demonstra empatia com o arguido o que diz muito da forma como a tua mente actua. E o que demonstra Ć© revelador de uma cultura extraordinĆ”ria de odio e terror e apta a prevaricar tambĆ©m. Ć bizarro no mĆnimo e triste para ser sincero.
0 likes@terpinhawgin666 I thought I recognized that logo. I ate TH'S once and it was the nastiest crap, I ever ate.
0 likesHahahaha
0 likes@terpinhawgin666 yeah it's so fucking funny isn't it, WOW.
0 likesMonsters the lot of em.
0 likesNothing funny about this case but I have to admit this comment cracked me up
1 likeChips without "all dressed"
0 likesLmfao so true
0 likesThe best part? It works. :D
1 likeTurkey bacon?
0 likesAnd begging for a dinner that never comesš¤£
0 likesBest comment on here š¤£
0 likesāTalk for 6 hours about why youāre hereā
0 likes@babscabs1987 Black tea and 2 sugars for me.Yes to bacon and eggs. Could not believe the scene offering the offender bacon and eggs.
0 likesyea, we're pretty ruthless here.
1 likeLMFAO ššššš
0 likesš¤£
0 likeslt x your response shows you were triggered first edgyboi
0 likes@Invincible Beauty America is notorious for police brutality, long sentences, and most jurisdictions turn a blind eye to torture for confessions. All this 'tough on crime' pretense is meaningless, given the massive rates of crime compared to countries with so-called 'softer' approaches to crime. One big difference is, everyone is considered human in other countries. As for your story: did you go to the police?
0 likes@Vicky Helgren Gee that's so manly. What would that achieve, kiddo?
0 likes@lt x Yes, Canadian police are ultra aggressive. I lived in Amsterdam, Holland for about 4 years. The police there are very laid back. Even if you say things to hurt their feelings they dont beat you up!
0 likesWhile apoligizing for it...
0 likesI'd confess straight away for a glazed donut.
2 likesThats aboat the funniest thing I've heard all day ay no doubt aboat it bravo ay
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG
1 likeIt's because most of us Are humans; maybe ignorant of the evil out there, maybe too selfish with our own lives to give concern about things that happen to "other people"...........theres very few of us capable of being face shooting equalizer !
The worst thing is that he didn't say "sorey aboot that..."
1 likeKristin ššš
0 likesSyrup with no maple
0 likesLol spotted the American
0 likesCanceled hockey season
0 likesHey man... That shit is for real.
0 likesHey man... That shit is for real.
0 likesHey man that shit is real.
0 likesWonder he didnt apologise
0 likesits disgusting
0 likesBruh
0 likesBacon and eggs? Or you do ya want something else?
0 likesThis happened in my neighbourhood. She lived down the street from my house. Evidence hints at bike gang involvement and Rafferty was a patsy.
0 likesLoool, thanks for a much needed moment of levity.
0 likesHAHAHAHAHAHA. That was amazing.
0 likes-Yankee WITH NO BRIM.
1 likehahahahaha!!!!
0 likesoh, the humanity!
0 likesLegend
0 likesThatās was funny as hell lmao
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG As a Canadian I agree that sometimes the murderers get off easy but in this situation Being polite to him was to help fulfil a purpose of getting more information from him
0 likes@Cheyenne MacPhail I do think our government is too kind to murderers but the death penalty has gotten a lot of innocent people killed, if we had no reasonable doubt or the person was seen commitingthe crime I would be for it however.
1 likeNew Yorkers Torture Tactics:
0 likes- Yankee... WITHOUT BRIM
ššš
0 likesHoly fuck he's actually got a donut
0 likes@Grapefruit Simmons do you have information about that theory?
0 likesAmerican Beer!
1 like@terpinhawgin666 please stop, I'll talk.
0 likesJen Dark Energy 384400 , šš¤£šš¤£šš¤£š Brilliant!
0 likesYou're hilarious
0 likesWho was the real criminal
0 likesReading this comment with a Russian accent makes it so much funnier
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG I knew a manager who had a friend that slashed a cab driver with a machete and only got like 3-5 years. The dude is out too and taking cabs still....
0 likesTurning off the TV while it is showing hockey
1 likeIM screAMING
0 likes@Toob247 Toob247 ''Coffee. No cream No sugar.''
0 likesGood. Best coffee is... just coffee.
That's why pencils have erasers, eh?
0 likeslt x š¤£š¤£š¤£š
0 likesDamn I shouldnāt be laughing this hard but... damn Kristin thatās hysterical
0 likesššššššš
0 likesšš
0 likesNobody expects the Canadian Inquisition!
2 likesššššššššš ā¤ļø from Az
0 likes@Vict0r You MONSTER!!!!
0 likes@Bam Chug see, proof šš
0 likes@Glen Quagmire I, sir, will also stand beside you in battle! If I may be so bold, your duty will be to cordially ask the enemy for permission to engage (at their earliest possible convenience, of course, provided they can fit us into their schedule) and I'll be in charge of apologizing to the enemy for potentially disrupting their daily schedule. This is war against liberals, man! We fight decency and logic with decency and...um...logic! And if things get truly ugly, rest assured, they could potentially receive a tersely worded email! But, let's not threaten that quite yet!
0 likesYes, the most fascinating part about a case where a fully grown man bashes a 6 year olds cranium in with a claw hammer.
0 likesAfter raping the thing first of course.
But DAMN, a donut without glaze? That's just cruel.
Shoot Right Here I agree we should not kill criminals even if they are convicted 100% in my opinion we should make jail a living hell for them so that they font ā enjoyā a single second of their live anymore
0 likesAs a canadian, this would break me
0 likes@Invincible Beauty Well if it was self defence shouldn't do any time. The fact he kept stabbing him afterwards just shows how far he was pushed
0 likesIn jail is where they get real justice
0 likesAnd a blanket
0 likesAnd they still say sorry about it because they still feel bad š
0 likesThe Gestapo studied Canadian police torture tactics,but they found them too inhumane.
1 like@rustygrengel
0 likesPeni Parker ewww.
0 likesThey save the imitation maple syrup for the serial killers.
3 likesYou can't do that! Its inhumane!
0 likesPancakes without maple syrup
0 likes@Peni Parker hahaaaaaa!
0 likesAbsolutely brilliant...
0 likesWith-WITHOUT GLAZE
0 likesNo way
0 likesImagine the horrors in the UK...
0 likes- Food, IN GENERAL.
(Just joking. Stereotypes aside, they've actually got some okay food.)
They will make you eat poutine.
1 like@Ā° Lali Gag Ā° ::flatly:: No. Not that. Not the poutine. Please, don't... gets knife and fork and stuffs napkin in shirt collar
2 likesThis comment tickled me, thank you. š¤£
1 likeThis comment tickled me. š¤£
1 likeOCS DEVIL DOG How do we prove itās indisputable? In court.
0 likesCake donuts are my favorite and they don't have glaze.
0 likesPushing yourself past the torture victims without saying "pardon me ey"
0 likesToo true. That shit was brutal, bud.
0 likesLOOOL donāt forget aboot the cold temperatures too, eh
0 likesSeems harsh but in light of what he did, appropriate.
0 likesTea with sugar, what are you nuts? It's not a soft drink.
0 likesYeah unless you are an aboriginal person, and if you were an aboriginal woman, you better really watch out thats all i gotta say ( sorry im so depressing but its frustrating to me that everyone thinks canada is just maple syrup and rainbows because its not canada wouldnt be here without the millions of murdered native people from first contact to residential school to now, which wasnt very long ago) anyways yeah sorry thats not important for this video cause its so sad but just incase anyone wants to look up other sad stuff, your welcome in that case.
1 like@David Parry 1) You missed the joke (r/wooooosh)
0 likes2) You're looking at police misconduct (even sarcastic ones like the OP's comment) through the lens of this case. The issue arises when actual police brutality occurs to mere suspects (yes, technically Rafferty was only suspected too - but, yeah, nearly irrefutable evidence and all) or to innocent bystanders.
3) So everyone who's brutalized by LE is necessarily a "Crim"? Your standards of evidence are exceedingly low and you must reject legal standards of presumed innocence and due process. Good on you, you draconian sociopath.
Straight out of The Good Place
1 likeI read it in a Canadian accent immediately.
0 likes@terpinhawgin666 is astratta
0 likesInvincible Beauty and when u found out is that when u decided to end it? Cause I would of been scared to upset someone like that. š
1 likedon't yall microwave your tea..
0 likesbabscabs1987 easy dude,only if you're French Canadian,Englishman would kill for a cuppa,and still burb and fart after eating ya guts....
0 likesWatch That Chapter, then Canadians got so dark secrets
0 likes"Tea with one sugar" ššš
0 likesPardon me, did you just say something to me eh? I'll have you know I graduated at the top of my class in the Canadian Politeness Force, and I've been involved in numerous secret runs to Tim Hortons, and I have over 300 confirmed friends. I am trained in welcoming warfare and am the most passive aggressive member of the entire canadian population. You are a person that I have yet to make friends with. I will talk to you with kindness the likes of which have never been seen before on this earth, mark my passiveness. You think you can get away with not saying thank you? Think again, neighbour. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of syrup drinking penguins across the northern territories and your IP is being traced so you better prepare for the gift baskets, buddy.
1 likeAs you kindly apologize lbs
0 likesor constantly apologizing. That's torture. Think aboot that.
0 likesNothing about this is even remotely funny. Its awful.
0 likes@marlene g are you sure aboot that?
0 likes@M Yes what if it's maverick light?
0 likes@TheSP33DFREAK too scared to mention the horrors of united state police depts?
0 likes@Alyssa Ferraro should we be sorry aboot that, eh?
0 likes@Dark Wolf That's not how we use "eh". I don't drink tea or eat donuts so I wouldn't know.
0 likes@Kristin don't forget withholding the Molson.....
0 likesWell, maybe he can have one (read in heavy Canadian accent)
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0 likes@Alyssa Ferraro Are you sure aboot that, eh?
0 likes@TheMattc999 Which one of the guys in this interrogation has a "Canadian accent"?
0 likesI couldn't continued after that..
0 likes@Jen Dark Energy 384400 hahahhaha ha
0 likesMonsters.
0 likesNoooooo š±
0 likesHaha
0 likesGlazeless donuts are just cake bagels.
0 likes"You haven't touched your donut!"
2 likes400th reply!
0 likesHard Boiled
0 likesLol yesss
0 likesYou hungry? NO FOOD EVER COMES
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG Dying is easy. Living with yourself in a 4X4 box for the rest of your life? That's hard.
0 likes@lt x pale or hail? Or hale?
0 likesThe horror! š±
0 likesYANKEE WITH NO BRIM
0 likesTruly rough
0 likes@Joyful trees its what people get for your š
1 likeOh fuck I just lost it
0 likesSamuel Hogan š¤£šš¤£ damn I just lost it
1 likewhat tea with sugar is wrong on all levels
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG too kind. Do exactly to them as they do to their victims
0 likesThat kind of torture sounds horrible and it must be hard for a criminal to endure it. Canadian police are devious. Tea not sweetened enough and unglazed donuts, I shudder at the thought of it.
0 likes@babscabs1987 I know right? So gross!
0 likesKristin, but the real torture is none of it would be 100% Organic!!!
0 likesUS torture tactics: No Tim Hortons š¢
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG because at some point someone innocent gets shot in the face.
1 likeVinetta R he ate the middle thereās a hole
0 likesyou MONSTER!! you have taken it too far!!!1
0 likes@You Wish I always wondered what the "plain old-fashioned" doughnuts were for. Now I know, they're for RCMP interrogations.
0 likesBRUTAL !!
0 likesI'd confess to crimes I didn't even commit.
All Timmy's donuts are delicious anyway
0 likes@David Parry 100%
0 likesKristin LOLOLOLOL.
0 likesKristin The torture!!! We are brutal.
0 likesAs a Canadian I approve this message.
0 likes@David Parry that's a bold face lie they'd never go that low to torturer someone like that with cold coffee? Next you'll say 0 cream and 0 sugar haha could u imagine
0 likeshow evil
0 likes26:00 "You haven't touched your donut"
0 likesLmfao ya that was my first thought like ya.. he didnt eat the doughnut because its fucking plain. Put a Boston creme or cruller and then see. There is actually temptation. And why tea? Not a double double? They started all wrong. (But seriously this case still hits everyone to this day!)
0 likes@Jen K "who even remembers people's names on here"
0 likes@You Wish well im guessing your also a Canadian lol
0 likes@Rainbow Unicorn Gamer you've never eaten hot dogs with no buns? Ok richy rich (just a sarcastic joke no offense needed... i seen earlier comments lol)
0 likes@Jen K are you Canadian? Just saw your comments on having councilors in school. And its starting. We always had teachers as councilors but schools are bringing in trained psychologist (i think they are) into school districts. So idk if its once a week at a school. On call or how you get the help, my sons only jk but my neice used the help at her school.
0 likes@David Parry this was OPP but I think you ment RCMP?
0 likesKristin this should be illegal! Does the UN know about this?
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG We can only pick the brains of existing specimens while they're vulnerable enough to share. They're dying to get a straight answer out of at least one of these monsters. This is their one shot at gathering data, and every move is very calculated. Once he's already in the system, he has nothing to lose and no leverage is incentive enough to talk. At least here, he can be given a false sense of hope that he might get off the hook slightly and spill his guts before he faces trial. After that, no more honey crullers.
0 likesInvincible Beauty rate waa was
0 likesššššš
0 likesWay to take a horrible case like this to try to make a funny.
0 likesKristin yup š
0 likes@David Parry many ways?š¤ Wat da heck are ya tockin aboot?š
0 likes@Peni Parker He's more than likely to get brutally murdered in prison. Those people don't take kindly to child and women murders, and rape. That's why they tend to keep those individuals separate from the regular inmates in the prison.
0 likesFriccc š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesLmaooooo
0 likesHahhahahahaha hahhahahahaha hahhahahahaha man that's funny
0 likeslmfao
0 likesPoutine, but it's CHEDDAR CUBES instead of cheese curds
0 likesMONSTERS
0 likesnot tim hortons
0 likesHe almost threw up š
0 likesYesterday's Timmies...
0 likesLove it š¤£
0 likesOh the horror
0 likesThis guy speaks so boringly. I be asleep too. Damn
0 likesšš¤£ Exactly!
0 likesWhat if I like my tea without sugar
0 likesThe best... lmao
0 likesInhumane!
0 likesLMAOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!
0 likesNah the real torture is giving him Tim's that stuffs trash these days
0 likesItās used to lure the suspect into a false sense of security and comfort so they open up to the point that the detectives can put their foot in the door and get the truth
0 likesI bet, "the only one piece of sugar" was done on purpose.
0 likesI love when they began the āMutt and Jeffā technique. Good cop, bad cop - my ass. Itās polite cop, slightly less polite cop. Canadian interrogators are politely badass.
0 likesI have sais way way more witty shit than that on a comment and i have never gotten 486 replies !!!! good job sir, whatever tactics you have employed.
0 likesI actually enjoy donut without the glaze
0 likesTrue
0 likesš
0 likesAnd a plastic yellow blanky.
0 likesKristin oooof
0 likesYour honor after considering these cruel and unusual conditions forced upon my client, I move for a full and complete dismissal.
0 likesA double double and honey glazed donut š perfect
0 likesBut fr tho the OPP aren't anyone to fuck with lmao their tactics are wild.
0 likesIf he waited any longer to fess up, he wouldāve pulled out the worst of all: American maple syrup.
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG Because there is no such thing as indisputable evidence, you just can't know for sure, sooner or later a cop lied, a man was tortured into confession, a videotape was faked, or the circumstances lined up in a way that makes it seem impossible that an innocent suspect didn't do it.
0 likesThere's no way to define "indisputable evidence" and sooner or later, if it keeps going long enough, your society will have murdered an innocent person.
That's not something I ever want to be possible in a society I live in.
Thank you so much for this! Best laugh in months.
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0 likes@Invincible Beauty typical traitor, when will ww learn?
0 likeslmao
0 likesYou monster
0 likesBasically a bagel right?
0 likesHe offered to get him a full meal too ābacon and eggs? Huh? Ya hungry?ā š
0 likesLol
0 likesLol
0 likesTell the Canadian "Soo American eh? what part of the states are you from?"
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG Due process in the court of law. They did their best to expedite that process with an admission of guilt, but otherwise it must go through the process regardless of the crime
0 likes@OCS DEVIL DOG in theory that works, but ive seen soooo many true crime videos where the police have never solved the crime due to just terrible police work or arrested the wrong person - even destroying evidence that doesnt fit with their suspect - just so they can close the case. Or they use racial prejudice, in those instances as well. Plus, theyve fabricated evidence in cases too. If we could trust the police when it came to this sort of thing, to have the goal of finding the truth and the real suspects and perpetrators, then the death penalty could work. And we often take what the police and justice system say at their word. But there is evidence that 4% of people on death row in the united states are innocent. Putting innocent people to death is worse than wrong.
0 likesHaving "aboat" said to you repeatedly, without ever easing up.
0 likesI can get ya a full meal? bacon and eggs? š what a nice guy
0 likesDonut without glaze sounds terrifying lol
0 likesI thought you were joking. Then I noticed the Tim Hortons haha
0 likesthe humanity! stop! he's had enough!
0 likes@terpinhawgin666 my guy "Tommy Hunton" eh?
0 likesOld fashion plain is my favourite donut from tims bud
0 likes@Mike S why not just chew on an old sock? it would have more flavor.
0 likesLmao š š
0 likesGets 'em every time.
0 likesThis comment kills meš
0 likesAnd talking till the end of time.
0 likes@babscabs1987 Exactly. I prefer honey.
0 likesGata talk aboot it
0 likesWait it was unglazed?? I missed that. Isn't that against the Geneva Conventions?
0 likesMade my day
0 likesyes the tea WITH ONLY ONE SUGAR and strategy
0 likesThis is incredibly disturbing.
0 likesLoooool
0 likesIf it was me and he asked for 2 sugars in his tea, I would spit twice in it.
0 likes@D.I.Y Ninja Yea they treat these criminals too good. Itās like oh hey you killed someone? What would you like from Starbucks gimme a break , GTFOH š
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0 likesThat is one hell of a rusty comment! ā ļø I'm dead! ššš
1 like@Invincible Beauty self defense clearly heās gonna be out
0 likesRarely read a comment that actually makes me laugh out loud. ahahah nice one
0 likesAnd a blankiev
0 likesTHIS DUDE FORM FLORIDA ASWELL? SHITT I WOULDNT BE SUPRISED CINSIDERING ALL THE OTHER PATHELOGICAL PSYCHOLOGICAL LIARS WITHIN THE CASES IN FLORIDA I MEAN LIKE U HAD CASEY ADADM WHO IM STILL CONCVINCED DROWEND HER DAIGHTER AND TIRE CONVERING IT UP WITH HER FATHERS HELP AND THEN YOU HAD JEFRRY DAHMER āshe a killer, she a eater, she a Jeffry Dahmerā R.I.P JUICE WRLD
0 likesThis is perfect hahahahahaha
0 likesIām so late to the party but this comment took me out š¹š¹š¹
0 likesit's not torture tactics it's to make the suspect comfortable
0 likesI aināt talking until you put a cruller in front of me.
0 likesHilarious
0 likesI wouldnāt wish that kind of torture on my worst enemy.
0 likesSounds aboat right šØš¦
0 likesStop calling us out like this
1 likeHahaha
0 likesIf he's found guilty, they might even put him in prisonš³
0 likesBrutal procedure.
0 likesAs an American, a donut without glaze is the worst thing anyone could do
0 likesCouldnāt help but break out laughing š
0 likesāThis is intense for meā Hope prison is even more
0 likesThe interrogator was the one for Greer? holy shit!
0 likesThat cop could sell me my own shirt.
1 likeAbsolutely disturbing š³
0 likesI'm so glad I found this channel. I've always been fascinated by criminal psychology.
174 likesWe see normal citizens in interrogations about CP but we dont see many videos of the more high flying people in interrogations. However we know there are many...
0 likesShout out to the artist rendition because it was on point
1 likeDid he read him his rights? I may have missed it?
0 likesI cannot believe the complete lack of responsibility and disengaged attitude from this monster ....talk about narcisstic, me- not - here demeanor and non humanity this demon on earth exhibits.
0 likesPromising to show an 8 year a puppy and then leading her to her demise is one of the most sickening things a human being can do. I hope she got the same sentence
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She did. 57:16
84 likes@DH thanks bro. I think I missed that.
48 likesEveryone Remember to tell your kids, the stranger isn't always a creepy guy in a van. There's been many kidnapping cases were the predator employee other young children, because stranger danger doesn't apply to kids.
68 likes@Alex Resa exactly. Stereotypes arenāt what they seem. This 18-19 year old girl went into the school and instead of it being some weirdo in a van offering candy... she was offering to show a puppy. Thatās just so fucked up.
41 likesIf you think what they both did is the exact same thing, I am concerned. Big difference between leading someone to a van, and being he person killing em with your bare hands and assaulting them. You think both actions are jus as easy? Seek help before you hurt someone.
4 likes@Jonny Akster If you donāt think someone who lured an 8 year old girl to her rape and murder doesnāt deserve life in prison then thereās something wrong with you bud. Itās just as bad. That little girl trusted her
91 likes@Jonny Akster she knew his intentions. Sheās just as guilty
62 likes@Jonny Akster oh you canāt be serious
21 likesWhen she said the little girl called for her and she turned her head, it broke me
33 likesYeah, it's a really weird, unfortunate situation. Like, she didn't know his exact intentions... But also, why does a full grown man request you find and abduct a child of NOT to rape at the very least? He bribed her with the promise of drugs, which is also sad, because addiction is crippling and it drives people to do crazy shit... But at the same time SHE HANDED OVER A CHILD SHE ABDUCTED TO A FULL GROWN MAN!!! Idk. Trying to play devil's advocate and ask "okay, but what if" to so many details of this whole scenario to figure out if she really deserved the same sentence he did. Honestly, I think she didn't. I don't know much about sentencing in Canada, but I think she deserved at least 40 years. He definitely deserved life since he was the one to assault and kill and lie and evade police.. She was just an accomplice (and by just, I don't meant to minimize what she did... I just mean that her addiction should've also been factored into her sentence). So, should she have gotten life too? No. But she should've had to gone the rest of her life under drug counseling and parole.
12 likes@Alicia Dutrow I mean Iām an addict and I couldnāt imagine in my worse nightmares doing something so evil to a child. Itās so fucking upsetting to know people like that are walking the streets. I wouldnāt care if he was promising me the highest quality dope, I would never ever think about hurting someone for it especially a innocent baby girl
15 likes@Alicia Dutrow I agree. What she did was very very fucked, but I donāt think she deserved life. She was 18. It is always tricky with sentencing but helping someone kidnap is not the same crime as rape or murder.
5 likes@Jonny Akster Although she did not rape and kill the child, Terri knew that was EXACTLY what MR intended to do. She is equally guilty.She may not have done the attack, but she helped aide him in helping it happen. Equally guilty.
15 likes@Jonny Akster Luring someone to another person to be killed is being an accomplice/accessory to murder and usually pulls similar prison terms; In some places, it's just flat out lumped in with murder whether you are the murderer or not. She stood there and let him kill her after SHE lured the child. She knew a child would be more willing to trust her and she abused that trust. She's just as guilty and depraved. She's also a sexual predator. They both participated in the murder, they both should get the punishment.
13 likes@Send Me Location Yeah luring a child to a killer for the purposes of killing the child is just as bad as the murder itself. Most states would serve them the same time, at least in the US. I have no idea why Incubi is downplaying the actions of these monsters. This wasn't stealing a candy bar or a purse, this was a cold, calculated and premeditated murder of an innocent child who trusted those depraved psychopaths. Children can't discern deceit and they shouldn't have to worry about being killed by sexual predators. It's just saddening to say the least.
8 likes@Ren C the saddest part is that the little girl trusted Terry Lynn. Then they got to the car and she saw Michael and she just shoved the little girl in the car. Itās really messed up. This happened in Canada but this is beyond sickening. I donāt understand why people would think she deserves a lesser sentence. Sheās the reason that girl is dead. Michael couldnāt have walked into that school hunting down children
6 likes@Send Me Location It's devastating to know that little girl trusted Terry Lynn to guard her when he was hurting her, only to be met with the reality that she had no one to help her. Terry Lynn played the lure and that's every bit as disgusting as Michael to me. I see that the court must have agreed with us as they both got the sentences they deserved. To abuse the trust of a child is extremely evil to me; they don't have the ability to see through manipulation or deceit. Hell, it's difficult for adults but at least we have a chance. Kids don't have that, and for these two monsters to abuse that is just disgusting. They're depraved sexual predators. Terry Lynn could have easily decided to not lure anyone. I could never lure a child to be murdered, no matter what threats were made. It's just unthinkable. Terry had every opportunity to turn Michael in to police prior to luring that little girl.
5 likes@Jonny Akster L
0 likes@Kathleen L No disrespect at all, but I see it as, if she hadnāt played her part and lured that child to that monster then she would probably be alive. To me she is just as guilty as him. š¤·š¼āāļø
3 likes@Jonny Akster She definitely deserves the same sentence. She led that little girl to her death, she may not be the killer, but she sure is responsible.
2 likes@Alicia Dutrow She knew his intentions, she just didnāt care. If someone is trying to bribe you to assist in the kidnapping of a child, common sense is that, that person has malicious intentions.
3 likes@Kathleen L She was 18, an adult who knows right from wrong, no excuses. Life in prison is what she deserves.
2 likes@Victor Nieves I donāt agree she deserves another chance at life. She expressed obvious guilt and confessed to everything and is why that girl is getting justice at all
0 likes@Kathleen L Would you trust her around one of your kids or a child in your family?
1 likeIt doesnāt matter how guilty she feels, she assisted in the kidnapping, raping, and murder of an 8 year old child. She deserves to be in a cage with all of the other rapists and murders. Every time something like this happens, the women always cry, point the finger at their partner, and bring out the sob stories, and people eat it right up. Iām not. The only reason why she expressed āGuilt,ā is because she was trying to get sympathy because she knew she was caught. Her guilt didnāt stop her from luring the kid, kidnapping the kid, watching the kid be raped, and then murdering the kid.
3 likes@Victor Nieves thatās the problem tho. She didnāt rape or kill anyone at the end of the day. She assisted in that crime. She got life in jail so ultimately you get what you want. She was an addict straight out of high school with a psycho abusive 28 year old boyfriend. I donāt agree that she deserved the same punishment, but also Iām not a lawyer or a judge. Just my opinion.
0 likes@Kathleen L she did. Just google the newest piece of evidence. She killed the girl
1 like@Jonny Akster dude she was there the entire time that he did everything to that poor little girl AFTER she lured Tori into the car. She went for a walk while he raped and murdered a child and then helped him dispose of evidence. She may not have swung the hammer, but she is just as guilty and the fact that you don't see that is concerning
2 likesShe did get jail time. Not as much as him though ! He us still in !
0 likesI want to know where the kids mom was when they took her from a freaking Home Depot? Young children should be glued to you where ever you go. You donāt see any animal in nature not being around their children.
2 likesWhat if she actually thought they were going to go see a puppy and was surprised when the guy drove off?
1 like@Azrael 7 you might be an addict but youre avatar is dope
1 likeIt's a little unclear, but it seems that she got a stricter punishment than he did. He's eligible for parole after 25 years, but I don't think she is. Public opinion might have played a big part in that, because she jerked around the police for quite a while after, trying to get lenience if she led them to her body, which she didn't. She took them on a goose chase around rural Ontario basically going 'Oh, she's in this ditch. No, maybe she's in this one.' So they didn't find her body for months.
0 likes@Alicia Dutrow Iām a recovering addict and at my lowest I would have never ever considered hurting anyone, let alone a child. I canāt fathom it.
1 like@goggz fraser ur weird
0 likes@Kathleen L oh you think theyāre weird for wanting to protect their kids. This happened in Canada. When cases like this happen in the US they will DIE in prison. Cali level 4 yards have a green light on ANY person with fucked up charges. This includes crimes against children, sexual assaults and even kidnapping.
0 likesTake a second and think about it. They both got life. Did she deserve the same sentence? Absofuckinglutely. Neither of them deserve to see the light of day again.
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0 likeslove of animalsā¦
LESSON: to always teach our children that no stranger can lure them by PUPPIES, KITTENS, and anything and evyin between.
i hate these mosters for manipulations to the extent of āyour parents are in the hospitalā so poor young victim has no choice but to PANIC AND FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS.
Is that detective who came in at 33:33 the same guy who interrogated the Canadian colonel Russell Williams? Sounds exactly the same, aside from his bad cop persona, which he didn't really utilize in that interrogation. Not to this degree, anyway.
0 likesafter everything...i just pray toris parents find peace.
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it is common for parents to come under suspicion when a child goes missing. unfortunately, they are often responsible (casey anthony for example). but my heart goes out to all the innocent parents who were suspected by not just the police, but their own community. i canāt imagine the pain of not just having a missing child, but having everyone believe you were responsible.
1 likethis guy is infuriating
7 likesCan you imagine this guy's with his wife?
3428 likes"Ok, you made a mistake, we all make mistakes. What's important now is that you tell me your side of the story about the burnt meatloaf. I've seen burnt meatloaves before. You're not going to offend me. We just need to know, in your own words, how it happened."
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Why did he talk so much? I am not native English speaker. What was his job exactly? Was it form of passive torture? Or was he investigating and what was he investigating if they already know everything?
33 likes@HH the job of this investigator is to understand the suspectās character, then use that information to make sense of the suspectās responses and decision making. i believe that this interrogation can also serve as a way for the suspect to just come out and say that he did it also
74 likes@HHĀ the narrator says at 18:10 : when the investigator is talking, it is harder for the suspect to formulate lies. it's to mentally exhaust them and break down their defences.
136 likesmykadia The way he talks latterly killed me to be honest. He talks so good. I was gonna confess about stelling back when I was 10 years old lol.
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3 likes@HH passive torture lmao š
11 likesI don t think you are a monster if i think i will say , you are a monster or you make a mistake , answer me Wife . If you can go back in time you will do the same thing ?
15 likesLoool I'm going to try it
2 likes@HH passive torture is kinda what it is, they're breaking them down
12 likesYou forgot to include liberal use of the word "okay"
9 likesHA!!!! OMFG!!! This Comment Is The Best Fucking Thing Ever!!!! šššÆšš
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1 like"Take your time." *shoulder pat
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2 likes@Bryan Snapp that shit was driving me CRAZY!!... Every 3rd word was "ok" or "alright"!!šµšš
4 likes@HH he's trying to establish trust and make a good impression so he'll talk if they need him to. Also talking so much will break him down and annoy him.
3 likes@HH Basically, his main goal on this interview is trying to dig as much as he can from the suspect for the purpose of "criminal profilling." To better understand the case and for future reference.
2 likesThey already know what happened and have sufficient evidence to proceed, so "confession" is no longer important or priority.
@Bryan Snapp I think thatās clever, once you make a statement and say āokay?ā And the other person doesnāt disagree, they pretty much agree and acknowledge that statement to be true. They donāt have to verbally acknowledge but by not disagreeing when you ask āokay?ā it affects their position on the issue, now they feel like they missed their chance to disagree, now they feel like they have agreed to it. He also doesnāt give them enough time to actually respond so theyāre agreeing to things before they have time to process them and come up with a lie. Pretty cool!
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1 likeLmao ā now Iāve seen burnt meatloaf before youāre not going to offend me ā bro Iām using this whenever I can
4 likesIve dealt with burned pizza before this stuff dont bother me anymore
1 like@HH They have to act like they donāt know anything in order to get the criminal to lie about it, or to confess completely. Anything he lies about makes his defense less credible in court.
1 like@Jessica Polce you ain't been around many Canadians have you? . alright
0 likesxD
0 likes@Andie Crayons abuse towards men is a serious issue and should not be made fun of.
0 likesdon't forget the old "that's why pencils have erasers, because we all make mistakes". š¤£
2 likes@Tomoda come on, man. It wasn't a joke about THAT š you're reaching
1 likeLol
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0 likesWelp, you win the internet
0 likes25 years huh? If I were ever allowed to be in the same room as that thing, I'd shorten up that sentence toot sweet.
0 likesSomehow this interrogator makes me want to have someone talk to me right now and give me a donut
1 likeI'd be punching that guy in the face for so long I'd end up in jail.. respect to this guys for doing their job I truly couldn't do it
0 likesBruh I was getting sick just listening to this guy jeez
2 likesThis guy is disgusting! Cowering behind his blanket like an abused puppy. He deserves everything he gets!!
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Disgrace
2 likesjedi1706 fan well thereās a term we use, called a bandwagon. Which one you on last?
0 likesAre you chewing on your fingernail?
0 likesdeming xie hey :(( donāt be mean he just thought someone was cute
0 likes@jedi1706 fan Hey thanks! Haha š
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0 likes@lunarballoonistxo itchy lips
0 likesimagine getting out of prision and yourer an oid man and you just see this video
2 likesWould love to see the specialist interview a serial killer.
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Russell Williams
0 likes37:02 What everyone watching wanted to say.
1 likeHe needed to stew in some awkward silence in that first hour face to face
1 like50:29 "You know what a psychopath is, Mike?"
2277 likes"I have never met one."
"Well, I just met one tonight."
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15 likesMVP
17 likesI thumbed this up to get it to 667
10 likesKredex , good one
4 likes@Publik Enemi Hitting the like button isn't what first popped into my mind when you said "thumbed up"...
2 likesI read this comment at the exact moment he said it š
3 likesYeah when the detective realized he wasnt getting any more out of it and just started going off on him... Satisfaction
5 likesI really wanted to see his immediate response to that
1 likeafter that comment he sounded like a teen arguing with his parents
2 likesNot so savage. A lot of idiots feel that psychopathy is something to be proud of. Call Rafferty a āpedophileā (which he more obviously is) and thatād sting a lot more within our ridiculous value structure.
1 likeThe fact he is crying tells me he isnāt a psychopath or sociopath.
1 likeUs with ASPD doesnāt really feel empathy or guilt. I would never cry over something Iāve done even if I was caught. I wouldnāt even care at all.
He is definitely screwed in the head though but heās not ASPD
0 likes@DjAmaratzi except in most cases they are crying for themselves bc their life is basically over, not for the victims. Does that still not count?
0 likes@DjAmaratzi I thought that the difference between sociopaths and psychopaths was that sociopaths lack empathy, while psychopaths do feel empathy, but they are sadistic, i.e. derive pleasure from the suffering of others.
0 likes@somexp12 You donāt need to have acted on it to get the diagnosis. Most of us are not evil killers. However generally most get the diagnosis when incarcerated but generally just for small crimes like drug charges or assault etc. itās a relative small portion of ASPD people that are actually evil murders. Most of us are successful and works in high paying or powerful jobs.
0 likes@Webster91 Not sure if that counts. I certainly havenāt cried over getting in trouble or anything like that. But there are different degrees to it of course. But I could go out now and kill someone, get caught and you wouldnāt see me crying over it. I wouldnāt even regret it, wouldnāt care.
0 likesThat was truly horrifying to watch.
0 likesGet that blanket off him it's driving me crazy I think these preditors should be handed over to the parents for an hour before the interview to give them a bit of attitude adjustment psychopath
0 likesI cried when I googled more about Tori Stafford. There was a particular part describing when they found the body, she was wearing a Hannah Montana tee and butterfly earrings... so much innocence completely violated that day it breaks my heart into a million pieces. RIP Tori, you didn't deserve what happened to you.
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š¢ this made me cry
25 likesRest in peace sweet child š„ŗš„š
10 likesAnd the fact that the monster who lured her there did so by "the promise of showing her a puppy" š„ŗš„ŗ
57 likesYeah these things are always very difficult to find out about. I remember in the autopsy report on the Watts victims, how one of the little girls pyjamas were described.. š It just somehow makes it feel more real. Cause it really is quite unbelievable that these things happen..
22 likesI live a few miles from there. It tore everyone apart and even after all this time every year Tori is remembered.
7 likesyou;re telling me an 8 year old was wearing kids stuff? how odd
2 likesOh god I just did
0 likesThat's so sad. Poor little girl.
0 likesIt saddens me profusely that Tori was doing a good deed by remembering her mothers earrings, and running back in to bring joy to her mother, only to be brought to a monster. How sickening is it that her good deed was met with a negative outcome. Sorry sick bastard will rot in hell, and so will all people who harm a child filled with innocence.
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Juliana Williams šš
1 likeImagine the guilt the mom feels
10 likesIt's disgusting - cases like this make me feel physically sick. Same with the Chris Watts case. There's some absolute horrible bastards in the world, there really is.
2 likesThat maybe works for Tori, but these monsters had a plan, so maybe Tori would've gotten away, but another girl would've been abducted for sure
0 likesshit like this really makes you question what type of God would allow this
1 likeThat woman couldāve stopped it all and couldāve saved Tori when she called for help but she chose to turn away and take a walk and that really fucks with me, sheās not any less of a monster than him. Thank god she didnāt get a lesser sentence for admitting to everything and ratting him out.
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They said it was she who hit the girl in the head with that hammer to kill her so...
101 likesRegardless, what kind of woman sits there and is asked by a grown man to get a stranger little girl and goes through with it? I highly doubt she thought getting some random little girl for him meant he going to take her out to the park to play tag. She knew damn well what was going to happen and happily participated without a gun to her head.
169 likesThey knew each other before, she was the one giving the final blow, she plead guilty to first degree murder.
49 likes@M. G did the woman ever say what her motivation was for doing this? I understand the man's motivation, he is sexually attracted to children. But the woman wasn't involved in the act of the sexual assault, so what did she get out of it? Was he paying her? Or giving her drugs?
36 likes@kmdn1 i mean he was 28 and she was 18, he probably groomed her to be as accommodating as possible. Not her fault, but her responsibility. Such a fucked situation
50 likes@G. Salem Wdym not her fault? She 100% is in the fault for doing that shit.
70 likes@F I meant for being groomed by this creep
22 likesWell turns out she was the one that actually killed herā¦makes you think
24 likes@Victoria So that's the answer to why she did it. She's sadistic and violent.
28 likesFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16ā¤ļø
8 likes@Olivia Grace Yes this situation is so bad makes you want to turn to God. ššš
4 likesIt actually came out later that she was a verrrrry active participant in everything and played the "he made me do it" card to look sympathetic. Since then, audio recordings showing just how violent and uncaring she was came out
22 likes(aka, she wasn't groomed as everyone thought. She played the investigators and the public to think that she was a poor 18 year old led astray when really she also is just sick)
18 likesGod bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Donāt swear or take Godās name in vain!)
4 likes@G. Salem I get where youāre coming from, but the āmaybe she was groomedā train of thought only goes so far. Being groomed doesnāt alleviate any blame for anyone when they help commit a crime just as we donāt give criminals a pass when they had a rough childhood as humans in the modern era (no matter how theyāre raised) still know the concept of doing harm to another as being bad, so no ā¦ she is to blame and she does hold responsibility for this act being committed just as much as the disgusting man. Grooming or not.
8 likesBoth are sick sick sick
5 likesReading through the comments, it does seem more likely that she was a participant and the crying and acting like a victim is just a manipulation tactic. Her being the one to take the child seems like her being the instigator of the situation. She seems to be the controller of the whole thing from this alone.
6 likesTbf, she was only 18. There was most certainly a power imbalance between her and Michael and it's likely that she was being manipulated. I have absolutely no issue with her serving the same sentence, however I doubt she would've committed the crime on her own, whereas I'm not sure the same could be said for Michael.
2 likesi will never ever understand women who allow grown men to do this shit to kids, to their own kids even. like im gonna be real and say that a good portion of us have experienced some trauma like this in our lives (less severe obviously) and even if we havent, we have that fear. so i cannot for the life of me understand why you could ever let someone sexually abuse a kid. i dont get it.
8 likesobviously its one thing for a predator to do it, but that shit stings a little more. like she needed you and you just walked away, completely unsympathetic to a plight you know very well. what the hell?
@SozeyTozey HI she had a long history of violence. She assaulted a relative leaving them partially blind and put a puppy in a microwave as a child.
5 likes@StealYourPlates I've seen that a couple times, and I'm just curious where yall found that information
0 likes@100SEASONS 0/10 bait
4 likesGirl sheās the one who kidnapped her obviously she wasnāt gonna stop it to begin with she kidnapped her š
4 likesjust like Karla and Paul.
0 likes@Isabel she isn't worse then him yes she is a terrible human and deserves the worst however we shouldn't be down playing what the man did to the little girl and how he made that little girl feel, both ppl are terrible but one is worse than the other
4 likes@M. G i agree with your statement. I do have a question though just generally, in the event someone has a gun to say your childs head. And in turn for your kid. You must get the person another kid. What would that yield? Because if you bring police, your kids dead, but if you bring a kid, the other dies and yours is fine.... its super moral based and rough situation
0 likes@G. Salem You're assuming she was 'groomed'
0 likesShe was sadistic herself.
@SozeyTozey Do your research on this woman and you will think differently
0 likes@G. Salem I was going to reply to you and the few people defending this sick woman, then I remebered that you're all probably suffering in life from things I don't want to mention here. Which calmed my boiled blood down a little bit.
1 like@The emo user it does a little. A woman doing it is even more of a monster
2 likes@Adam Craig exactly is woman have to support and be there for one another we have to stay together for each other and she is a disgrace to women everywhere
0 likes@Adam Craig also that woman was a monster but I am a woman and I have no maternal instincts at all I never wanted a kid and I will never have one
0 likes@Adam Craig thatās bullshit
0 likes@The emo user i mean, I know biology. And I know exactly what men expect and desire in women. Its certainly not some unstable, red haired feminist that hates children. You give off crazy cat lady vibes lol.
0 likes@The emo user that's cool. But most women have innate maternal instincts. Just because you're the outlier doesn't make it true. And you're also a monster considering you said you would get rid of any child you would carry.
0 likes@Adam Craig Iām not ment to be a mother at all Yes Iām a woman but Iām a horrible mother my mom was a horrible person and my grandmother was a bad mother I have no means to be a Mom the kids are better off not having me as a mom
0 likes@Adam Craig Iām not a good person to be a mom Iām a drug addict and an alcoholic and Iām not really good at it all and honestly I am a woman but I have no idea how to do anything my mom was a horrible person and so was her mom so I think that itās better for me not to have kids because I donāt know how to be a good mom I have bad examples of mothers yes sometimes women are good at being a mom but they have to be taught I was never taught to be a good person I was left to raise myself so no I donāt think itās best for me to be a mom no matter how much I want a child
0 likes@Adam Craig I have bipolar disorder and ADHD and PTSD and fetal alcohol syndrome I take medication at night to sleep if I had a child I would never be able to wake up at night to comfort that child because Iām so drugged up on my bipolar meds and sleep medicine to get up also I have I have severe mental depression if I get depressed I sleep and I donāt wake up
0 likes@Adam Craig you judge me but you donāt know the reason why Iām not a mother
0 likes@G. Salem she's not groomed at 18 yrs old, she's a participant.
0 likes@ŁŲ§Ų” ŲØŁ Ų£ŁŁ is that confirmed through dna or tests or something?
0 likes@Alex Carter well her body language when she enters the room face to face with the man tell me something of that, her crying was fake
0 likesI agree. She was the one who got the poor little kid, knowing what would happen to her. How could she do that? Vile evil miscreant.
1 likeSo glad probably for the first time i Canadian history, she didn't get female privilege. She actually got the same sentence as the man.
1 like@M. G What kind of human fucking being, you mean. Anyone at all, why aren't you immediately suspicious?
0 likesi dont agree, if you dont know how to act in this situation and if the person have a weapon, you may put yourself in danger and you both would be harmed, she should had called for police if she couldnt help but yes she must be punished too
0 likesShe was turned on by the act of violence...
2 likes@That's What I Said what? They're both to blame
0 likes@That's What I Said no one is blaming the woman for what the man did. we are blaming her for being a bystander/participant in a crime tho. which she objectively was.
0 likesāIf you ask me why Iām sitting in this room, Iām sitting in this room for Tori. Making you squirm. Putting you through some of the grief that you put her through. Thatās why Iām in here, Mike. And Iām having a good time.ā
347 likesGive this man an award!
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Java Monkey my jaw dropped when he said that. I stood in the kitchen and gave him a slow clap. Dudeās a beast.
1 likeWhen, time stamp?
1 likeStefĆ”n Ćsir 54:33
1 likeHeās awesome!
0 likesRest in peace Tori. You're not forgotten. May creatures who harm the innocent and vulnerable be condemned to eternal damnnation.
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Not only are people who harm the innocent and vulnerable by default condemned to eternal damnation, but also the person who has told at least one lie. No one is perfect, all are going to hell if they do not have Jesus Christ.
17 likes@Paul Lombardo give it a rest
100 likes@Big Terry of Munro "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8)
9 likes@Paul Lombardo Cool beans. Prove it.
23 likes@Big Terry of Munro dude itās so easy to let people have their religion. One rule: do not interact. You have already lost by engaging
20 likes@Bug itās faith, people have had this conversation for literal millennia, a YouTube comment wont change anything (here I am tho)
19 likesShe can't rest, she's dead. A dead person cannot care anything, much less whether they are forgotten or not. He was not a "creature," he was a human, just like you and me. Does that make you uneasy? There is no eternal damnation, but seriously, that's your idea of what should happen to people? How disgustingly vengeful. So basically, if you really do care, offer your time or money to help prevent this sort of thing in the future. Don't post some random "feel good about yourself because you care" BS.
17 likes@Princeofcups Poc Iām gonna be honest nobodyās gonna read all that
16 likes@Michelle Jiles to be honest those people are freaking lazy. What would a book feel like to those people?
5 likesPS: I did finish it, better said I read the whole thread.
@Princeofcups Poc and yet here you are stamping out the little solace these people find in these tragic events ass
3 likesWho's Tori?
1 like@Sufian Ahmed its probably delivered hope to many millions of desperate people in this world that is full of selfish cruel and disgusting (people) here is a prime example of the filth amongst us ....we are so weak within we dread being a real good soul because you'll probably be desperate?
2 likesObamaphone
4 likes@Paul Lombardo
0 likesYoure not providing the best witness for Christ by comparing child assault and murder to a little lie.
Im an Athiest now, I used to be a Christian missionary, its BS like this that turns people off.
Some crimes are worse than others.
Some sins are worse than others.
Even Christ would think that. Some things drove Christ to anger and physical action, some sins brought Christ to a calm discussion.
@Paul Lombardo As a fellow true believer Paul. This is not the time nor the place.
3 likes@Paul Lombardo Iām a Christian and people who talk like you ruin it for so many people. Including those who might be willing to open their hearts to Jesus. Chill out and relax.
3 likes@Paul Lombardo hereās a question, Iām gay and have lied before, and also I have the very human emotion of fear, Iām going to hell for that right?
0 likes@Sufian Ahmed now do islam!
2 likes@Paul Lombardo thatās Batmanās job
1 like@Paul Lombardo This right here. Declaring condemnation on others means you bring it on yourself. A real loving attitude is praying these people know Jesus because the abominable things you've done were forgiven by him.
0 likesIf we all got what we deserved none of us would like it.
They are going to hell, and are demons. guess who will eventually get their hands on them... The Doom Slayer.
0 likesThere is a time when the predator becomes the prey and fully believe he will get everything he deserves
0 likes@Michael Cortez Well worded
0 likesEven though they get to live and ruin more lives but at least afterlife theyāll suffer
0 likes@Paul Lombardo you don't seem to know much about Jesus Christ and his teachings of forgiveness. You are quoting revelations, which was written by a man that had never met Jesus. He was not an apostle.
0 likes@Michelle Jiles I read all of it.
0 likes@JiMMy alas your critique falls on deaf ears im not Christian
0 likesI wish I believed in all that, wish I knew this shit would get exactly what they deserve
0 likesCanāt believe this guy got a donut and Jeff didnāt even get his butterfinger... just goes to show how bad the American police are
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Hahaha "wam bam thanks for the coke" now take me back to my cell!
426 likesCompletely different detectives dude.
29 likes@Jaren Rivera captain obvious here. Yeah it's well known it was a different detective dummy, why do you think he made the statement about how bad American police are..... right over your head my friend.
132 likes@Jon_Hydro_Labs some people just cant comprehend sarcasm lol I got what you meant pretty quickly and thought it was funny as was the OP. You're better off just not feeding the trolls brother.
30 likes@I, Spartacus I'm telling you man, glad to see someone with a sense of humor come into the thread.
19 likes@Jon_Hydro_Labs I try. Lifes too short to be serious all the time. I dont go on YouTube to pick fights like the majority of people lol I'm just here to have a good time.
10 likes@I, Spartacus amen.
0 likeslol!
0 likesyeah jeff is bae
11 likesJustice for Jeff
14 likesJeff is like the poster boy of this channel LOL
17 likesI hope his donut taste like shit. Jeff should have got a Butterfinger and a donut lol
13 likesAnd Jeff was INNOCENT! š
14 likesBe like Jeff, kids.
6 likesThey're Canadian.
31 likesPOOOR JEFF
4 likesAhh yes. Jeff is a legend. "You look like a prick."
9 likesLololol
0 likeslol
0 likesExcept they are not American police.
16 likes@Jaren Rivera he is
0 likesIt's pretty standard practice in America for detectives to get a meal for the accused. This doesn't reflect on sympathy but rather creates a sense of obligation and debt towards the cops.
2 likesmy take-away is that investigators are damn good at what they do. but I do have a warm spot in my heart for Jeff.
3 likesššššLmao
0 likesThese are Canadian police, btw.
19 likesDude, he offered bacon and eggs. I would never have turned that down.
1 like@Abi Mae Saba He got to go home and have as many butterfingers and cokes as he wanted. There truly is justice in this world.
3 likesThis happened in Canada lol, Americaās Most Wanted is North America so it covers USA and Canada.
9 likesThe cost of donut is nowhere near the cost of a confession.
1 like@Jemma what about a butterfinger?
0 likes@PURPLE NOSE CREEPER / / pixel pimp nah they are priceless
1 likeTheyāre Canadian š
7 likesš
0 likesThese are Canadian police.........
5 likesI almost want to be could by the OPP now! No gov agency has ever given me tea, a doughnut and offered me to get me a full meal.
0 likesIt's a fucking Butterfinger
1 likethis is the best comment
0 likesFuck the donut, eh? That's Timmie's on the table!
0 likesThat was canadian police, it was in ontario
1 like@Jaren Rivera if you have to be told that someone's being sarcastic rather than being able to see that they are obviously being sarcastic, you must not have a good sense of humor.
0 likesUuuuuuh this was in Canada dude.
0 likesIām pretty sure heās aware this detective is Canadian which is why he was saying the American police are bad because Jeff didnāt get the butterfinger while this guy got donut, a blanket, a tea, a Luke bucket š
5 likesYeah because this dude epically deserves a donut. š¤ I think the police catching him is a good thing that outweighs them not giving him a donut.
0 likesthink we can all need a Tim Hortons Tea
0 likesI'd have given him an 8yo donut or plate of liver
1 likeIt is a tactic of showing affection so they can break him
1 likeIsnāt this in Canada?
0 likesIt is so boring seeing yet another snipe at America. Damn! You can't be with the cool kids. Don't sit there and trash them.
0 likesThis was in Canada
1 likeThe American police are the best ones :) they also have some shitty ones, but considering all the police all over the world Iād rather have my American police than literally any other :P
3 likessmh 4 cokes but no butterfinger
1 like@Reheat The Pasta I agree. I have travelled a bit. American cops take a lot of crap other countries' don't. Also, while I read your post I am eating reheated pasta from last night's dinner. lol
1 likeTheInstigator lol :) noice ! I do appreciate the reheated leftovers~ those who forget the pasta are doomed to reheat it.
1 likeAnd yes I would never say all American police are amazing or good people, but I think only an idiot wouldnāt deny the good most American police officers do. Keep the public safe, and now theyāre being targeted even off duty because of this narrative that doesnāt apply to the uniform. Just to those who abuse their power and it isnāt only the police that are unjust. Itās the media, and itās the behavior of some persons. You want to duke it out? Do it in court. Not with the officer.
this is in canadašØš¦
1 likeOne thing Jeff and mike had in common is they were both in the early stages of withdrawal. Thatās the only thing in common because Jeff is an American anti hero š¬ š¦øāāļø
0 likesHahahaha. Jeff started all these binge watchers. Lol
0 likesAmerican police? this took place in Canada...And the fact that your comment got this many likes is very scary...
2 likesLMFAO
0 likesThese are Canadians
2 likesomg š¤£
0 likesBut jeff got a coke lol
0 likesthis is from canada
0 likesJeff yes he was hilarious in the interaction
0 likes@I, Spartacus no bro picking fights is fun! Fight me!!1!1!!1!1
0 likes@Scythe indeed. But Jeff was in the USA (Georgia) and didn't get a butterfinger. That's the point OP is making.
0 likesLoved jeff
1 likeRIGHHTTTTT THATS SO MESSED UP
0 likesAin't they Canadians?
0 likesLmao glad I just watched the Jeff video so I got the joke
0 likes@Jon_Hydro_Labs how long you been on dope?
1 like"Looooooonnngggg time buddy"
"ABOOT" spoken many times in this video.
0 likesYeah you should treat child rapists/killers with respect.
0 likesLol!
0 likesTo be fair, a butterfinger is torture whereas a donut is kindness.
0 likesMore likely it was precisely because Jeff was a less serious case. Giving suspects food accomplishes 2 things:
0 likes1. It creates a sense of obligation. When you do a favor for a suspect, they usually will feel some sense of obligation (if only unconscious). Makes them more willing to talk.
2. Itās more difficult to fight and eat at the same time than to fight while fasted.
Itās all part of a whole constellation of techniques to increase the probability of confession.
#1 gets brought up a lot in these kind of videos. Canāt recall where i heard it, but I did hear it more than once.
Does he ever admit to what he did?
0 likesGreat video bro.
0 likesIsn't this the same interrogator who got a confession from Colonel Williams?
1 likeCanadian detectives are very good
1 likeHow tf does he manage to talk for such a long period?
0 likesThe good cop bad cop is brilliant, I just wish the bad cop were a bit more aggressive.
0 likesSo in Canada, itās only 25 years, and you get parole out , or ?
0 likessomeone should make a song with that interrogators psychological pressure....
1 like13:07 "It's always interesting to examine a suspect's demeanor while being interrogated, especially compared to how they most likely were while committing their violation. The suspect here is a quivering mess, acting like a helpless victim, wallowing in his own self-pity while vying for sympathy; essentially the opposite to how he was while attacking Tori Stafford. It's ironic that the powerless and vulnerable complexion he is trying to portray here, is exactly what his victim would have felt at the time she was attacked." Wow.
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that was devastating. I'm not crying
43 likesIt's heartbreaking to think about what she must've felt
58 likesor been thinking about during that situation. It's disgusting to see how he acted during this
powerful ..
8 likesI felt so terribly sorry for Tori
11 likesYou were THERE?
1 likeThat came on exactly when i was reading it
4 likes@tiffany young mind boggling. I cant believe this story. This is demonic type stuff, evil of the evilist if that makes sense Just cant put my mind around this, kinda wish i didnt stumble across this. Disturbing. Cant imagine what her family went through.
8 likesTruly horrific. JCS is one of the best channels, near perf cr in every category. The script and writing, the research, the professional experience, even the narrator is perfect for his role. It's dead serious, yet always entertaining, and the very few times humour is shown it's respectful and impactful in its use. Top tier content, I would love to see them on Netflix, but I'd also be worried it would mess with the formula they've perfected.
3 likesHow did you memorize all that to type it out, I wish we were friends in school because I couldn't memorize what day it was
3 likes@dar4431 he could always like...pause and type a few words and then play the vid for more
3 likesHoly shit what a line, right? This guy nails it so often when describing these utter pieces of garbage
1 likeAbsolute chills
1 likeRemember sheās just as responsible as he is
1 likewhat i don't get is how people are against the death penalty for crimes like this, there is no rehabilitating someone like this. in the UK the guys who killed Jamie Bulger got out 20 years later and within a month they were caught looking at indecent images of children, Even if a nonce got out at age 75 they could still over power a child mentally and physically. i know not every crime deserves the death penalty but this type of crime does 100% IMO. nobody wants them rehabilitated, no one wants them back in society, and no one wants to take the risk of letting them re-enter society. And i've heard in the US it costs $12,500 per year to keep a prisoner in general population but $60,000 to keep in solitary. A one death penalty apparently only costs $15,000. so it's a lot cheaper and safer just to kill them. And i can't understand why someone would want to keep a nonce alive. And if you just kill them all i imagine that people would think if they ever thought of doing something like this.
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And they could be out in 25 yrs. total BS
1 likeAgreed
0 likesBy the end of the video I confessed to the murder.
1 likewait so good cop bad cop really exists?
0 likesOne thing to add to the final part, where he verbally abuses the suspect; the interrogator, Jim Smyth, was actually the person that found the remains of Tori Stafford. So I could imagine thatād get you pretty upset and high in emotion.
1415 likesOnly further shows how insanely good this man is at his job, to have this level of patience right across the man that killed an 8 year old girl he personally discovered.
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Verbally abuses? Nothing done to that creature is abuse.
98 likesIn that case, the man should be given an award for that level of self control. He must be a machine for lack, of a better word. And I don't mean that as an insult by ANY metric. Truly special people.
67 likesWow, that explains so much. I was a little surprised by how much vitriol the investigator had, bordering on unprofessional, but hearing that, I'm surprised he didn't murder him right there. I don't think I could trust myself in a room with a man who did that to an innocent child whose remains I found.
25 likesSmyth found the body 2 weeks after this interrogation.
6 likesThatās crazy. I donāt know how he could remain so calm.
2 likesHe was the one who found the girl, but she was found a couple of months after this interview. So that definitely wasnāt the reason why he acts the way that he does in this video.
8 likesverbally abuses the subject? you mean where he gently tells him that he is not a great guy?
6 likesno, she was clearly found before this interview he says it many times. the woman confessed that's how they found her.
5 likes@Jennifer Anderson they were charged jointly on May 20, Smyth found the girl's body on July 21
2 likesshould be automatic death penalty for anyone that kills a child.
1 likeIts so satisfying to see him endure 3 hours of boredom with hunger
0 likesThere was no need for the "Good Cop Bad Cop" method here. This was no Whodoneit situation. They knew who did it, knew what he did and where he did it. He had an accomplice, and she totally spilled the beans. By all accounts, she was truthful even as to her own involvement in this crime. All that was left for this supposed good cop to do was to spread a four course meal before that murderer, then roll in a king sized bed, and offer him another eight year old girl again, That's just how cozy and comfy he wanted him to be. To be frank, I was bothered by that interrogation, you just cannot tell this man who sexually abused an eight year old girl repeatedly and murdered her with a hammer, then dumped a body as garbage somewhere, "he made a mistake."
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They're saying he made a mistake so he feels that he has a way out and will start spilling the beans. The officers know he is a piece of shit and didn't make a mistake, it's just a way of trying to get a confession.
0 likesMaybe he doesn't feel bad for what he did. I think he is only sorry for getting caught so quickly
1 like54:50 mic drop.. amen detective sometimes you just have let them hear the real šš
1 likeI was confessing by the end of that rant at the beginning
0 likesYeah he doesn't look guilty at all he hasn't looked at one time, what in the hell is the interrogator talking about just telling me did it put his handcuffs on and take his ass to jail it's obvious šš
0 likesI hope they donāt LiVE long enough to see parole.
0 likesThey actually pulled a good cop, bad cop on him at the end. What Chads!
0 likes"you are a sick puppy, michael." holy FUCK
0 likesBoth investigators are top notch, but hot damn the first guy. His voice sounds eerily like nogla, but his personality is super warm and comfortable... yet heās applying pressure throughout.
0 likes"Look at you... Okay? You haven't touched your dough-nut. Aright? Cause your guts are eatin' you up inside. Okay?" ššš
1 likeHe's going to get passed around prison like some kind of Butt-Blunt! Have fun guys!!!
0 likesI feel the punishment for Terry-Lynn was more or less adequate, since she didn't seem to fully process what Micheal was actually planning on doing to the girl and she showed real remorse for her role in the crime. On the other hand Micheal was just straight up denying everything despite clear evidence and did not give a damn about what he did. He only cared about the fact that he got caught. He honestly deserves to stay in prison for the rest of his life with his actions being made public to the other inmates. People with those kinds of sentences will have their life made into a living hell behind bars.
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Nah even 18 is way too old to think she was gonna lure this little girl to this grown man and he'd what, show her a puppy, and she could've stopped it before the assault happened, bashed his head in when she started screaming stop it hurts, like many things she could've done that wasn't this
0 likes@Chase Jones Well, I didn't mean she believed that this dude was just going to lure a girl into his car to show her a puppy, but I meant that she didn't fully think through what consequences her participation in his plan would have for the little girl.
0 likesAlthough you are absolutely right that she could have intervened when she realized her mistake, but chose to do nothing instead.
I think something thatās worth clarifying, and something that isnāt mentioned by the video for some reason, is that it was later revealed in court that Terri-Lynn was the one who beat Tori to death, not Michael. Not that that makes Michael any less of a piece of shit, but it definitely does make the whole āgirlfriend was being manipulatedā story less plausible
1 like@Tomiscool Wow, that is quite the turn of events, thank you for expanding on the video.
1 likeIn that case I have to agree with you. It definitely doesn't make Micheal any less deplorable, but does make his girlfriends role in this WAY worse!
That sketch was so good tbh
0 likesJust wait man until in jail guard ''forgets'' door open and some dads come in to say hi.....
0 likesāIām not upset with ya, Iām not mad at yaā Iām happy to sit hear and talk with yaā jeeezus
1 like"You didn't even touch your donut"
0 likesCase closed.šØš¦
Also, anyone notice how the female defendant had 2 black eyes and a broken nose in that mugshot? You know she got whooped by other inmates for he crimes! I don't even feel bad
0 likesThe lead investigator was on his ass omgš
0 likesāin reality, the detective was not bringing any food.ā
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prison meals look revolting, I hope he's enjoying that!
0 likesHe was so looking forward to a huge bag of big .Macs, fries, shakes, double cheeseburgers. Hasnāt Eaten since noonā¦as if he were starving. Five days then hunger starts to matter, but as long as that dude with lots of fat on his body to keep him alive water is all he needs for days followed by many more days. Cruel killer.
0 likesI am about to admit that I was the one who did it with this interrogator.
0 likesāYou donāt whether to sit here, shake, shit, puke, you donāt know what to do.ā
1 likeRest in Peace Sweet Baby. Fly high angel dear
0 likesWhat? They have the possibility for parole?
0 likesI have a friend who was sexually abused as a child, and who has faced an almost insurmountable hurdle in trying to move past the abuse and build a life. Some days he succeeds, some days he fails. But I'm so viciously angry with the person who abused him that I could see harm to him and not care, so I admire the professionalism and restraint of these police officers. That must take a special type of moral courage.
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Damn
1 like@Breakneck That you should ask a question like this, suitably anonymised, suggests that you have a lot of integrity and that you should want to examine your own behaviour suggests you have a whole load more.
21 likesI'm not a therapist, I'm not a behavioural expert or a psychiatrist, so this answer doesn't come from a place of any professional expertise, but it seems like the best way forward here it to talk to her. Maybe you say that you're worried about accidentally recreating some stuff for her and want to know what she thinks, and then it becomes part of a dialogue between the two of you. Seems like what that would do is to bring you guys closer together and establish, in her mind as someone who could be trusted and who took her enjoyment of sex seriously.
Again, be proud of yourself. It takes a certain something about a person to take on issues that come with abuse, whether it's a friendship or a more intimate relationship. It sounds like you're absolutely the person she needs and are already helping her heal.
@Breakneck dude, this shows that youāre a truly good partner to her. You should be as HONEST AS YOU CAN WITH HER. You should tell her exactly how you feel. Also, props to you, a fellow grappler.
20 likesSheās lucky to have you. You shouldnāt feel bad about wanting sex or how you want it, just talk to her about it and be completely honest.
@Breakneck bless your soul. Itās commendable that youāre so concerned for your girl and I feel for her as I myself have been sexually assaulted on a number of occasions. I have a very difficult time during sex as it brings back awful memories for me and I sometimes go into a panicked state. I agree with both opinions given. My boyfriend is very concerned for me, and asks a lot of questions during sex and looks for hints that Iām becoming uncomfortable. I also let him know if I donāt want to be touched a certain way etc. I think itās all about communication and I also think that you should talk to your girl. Iām sure sheāll love and appreciate how much you care
12 likes@Stella Artois Ā You do know that my post was anonymous RIGHT?
16 likesI'm not comfortable with this topic & I don't know what to do & since other people have been down this road before I asked for some input & some help to get me on the right track & to help my state of mind.
How the FUCK am I so wrong that I should be single?
I can't believe you said that to me over me trying to help my girl & help our relationship.
What the fuck are you saying I should done since asking for help is such a crazy thing to do?
@BreakneckIf you are so worried why don't you seek out professional help? There are really good professionals out there especially trained in cases like this. Do you really think it's a good thing to ask random internet people and heed their advice on what to do in your relationship? If you put that all out for everyone to read be prepared for people telling you their opinion, like I just did and I'm telling you it's not a good thing to do that. Feel free to ignore it though. For me this would be a big betrayal of trust.
5 likes@Stella Artois Show me where I said I am planning to blindly follow everybody's advices just from their words online?
5 likesI want the input & thoughts of people who have been down
Then based from there I'll make an informed decision on professional help etc.
I can't believe you don't understand how the internet works & think somehow I've attached my name & my face.
@Stella Artois so far, the only negativity he's received on this question is from you. It would be wise, of course, for him to seek professional opinions, but this is a start that feels comfortable for him. It's not like he's naming names.
12 likes@Stella Artois Wind your head in. People get support where they can when they suddenly find themselves in need of it. I understand that you're absolutely desperate to climb into the pulpit and preach at someone in the conviction that only you are virtuous and pure, but you're not. A person has asked for help anonymously, and received some very heartening answers. He doesn't need the sanctimony police.
4 likes@Breakneck as a person whoās been sexually abused a lot since a very young age i think itās amazing that youāre thinking about this type of thing it just goes to show how much you care about her and i really appreciate that but honestly ik it might sound too simple or scary cus you might not wanna bring it up but i think the best thing to do is to just bring it up and ask her yk itās just way better than assuming or beating yourself up about it but just the fact that youāre thinking about this shows how much you care about her i hope you get to have this conversation and it goes well but if you do bring it up remember to listen because this is mostly about her comfortability and you gotta give her space to think and talk but of course also talk about your point of view and how you feel/what youāre thinking during :))
4 likes@Saint Lynnie I agree with Stella in that itās not ok for him to share what happened to her. Anonymous or not this part feels off to me and I donāt see why he specified so closely what happened to her. He couldāve just said that sheās a survivor without details and get the same outcome and advices.
2 likes@Breakneck you need some counselling ..legitimately. What youāre dealing with is nothing easy and you deserve some guided perspective on the matter.
0 likes@Breakneck You sound sensitive and strong. She probably feels safe knowing you would protect her. I think just checking by asking her and making ground rules like a stop word so she feels in control.
2 likes@Stella Artois sounds like you don't value partners much.
0 likesTrue
0 likesyes - itās unbelievable to me that people can do this for a career without drowning in depression or eventually beating the crap out of one of those disgusting creatures. God bless them and your friend.
1 like@Breakneck My ex had almost the exact same experience as you described. And her view of sex was also altered. Its like she could only enjoy sex if it was rough. She wanted me to hit her and use filthy words.. im not exactly that kind of person so after a time, sex became stale and bland...
2 likesDoes anybody know about how much professional help costs?
0 likesAlso is this something that a regular psychologist or psychiatrist deals with or should I be looking for a specialist with this?
How do I even go about looking into professional help?
Funds are tight cause of the pandemic but any insight matters to me so thanks to everybody so far & I didn't mean to highjack this thread.
@Breakneck Getting access to professional help depends on where you are. I see a therapist privately and it costs Ā£30 for a fifty minute session. She's accredited by various professional standards bodies and I checked first to make sure that she had expertise in the areas I wanted to talk about by using an online directory of therapists, as she had previously been recommended to me. From what I understand, therapists often deal with abuse, so I don't think this is seen as a particularly specialist area.
0 likesAnd don't apologise. That you're sufficiently interested to engage with this and want to lessen someone else's burden is a fine thing.
@Breakneck hey man if you ever need to talk you can reply back a way to talk. Iām in no way a professional but Iāve had similar issues and talks with my girlfriend and maybe some stories and struggles Iāve went thought might give you some light or answers
0 likesI was abused many times in Life. I never been the same and every Morning i hate to wake up and go through another Day
0 likesI could have been a good Mother, a good Wife, a good friend
But i can't trust anymore
I live alone for a long time trying to raise my Kids, but this effects me so much that i want a law for ppl like me. A wounded dog is put to death but i must live and go on and on
I wished my abusers had done it and not letting me suffer for the Rest of my Life
This is the only vid on this ch I cant bring myself to watch, knowing the crime
0 likesYou have got to have a strong stomach to do this sort of work.
0 likesDeath penalty was the solution to end them as needed by societies
1 likeImagine the interrogators wife tryna argue with them or the kids
0 likesDoes he know what respect means or is he going for unstable?
0 likesThat Black Mirror episode "White Bear" comes to mind when i watch this. Mind games for her slow torcher for him.
0 likesMy favourite saying goes: "i see humans but no humanity"
0 likesSattisfying at the end when the detective lets loose
0 likesThis interrogator is amazing. The ability to downplay the severity of the crimes, and simultaneously bombard this man with commentary to keep his mind unsettled is impressive.
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It does provide mental exhaustion. I'm ready to confess to something, anything, after listening to the interrogation!
18 likesI wish the outcome of this mans tactics were more favorable
3 likes@PheelKooL yeah, it's tough when your perpetrator clams up like that, it was pretty hilarious at the end when he says, "You're one sick puppy" - In Canada that is an extremely obscene thing to say LOL
9 likesThe very first time I watched this I was actually quite annoyed with the interrogator, but now I know why he was doing this. Also, is it just part of the training that cops always say, "Okay?" after every freaking sentence?
4 likes@Are You Going To Do The 'Ora Ora' Thing? that's f***ed up, we can't have decapitators roamjng around!!!!
0 likescan confirm that ontario police stations do serve tim hortons to detainees
0 likesI see the Jodie Arias video got removed again š¤Øā¹ļø
5 likesI miss some new content from you, you guys. šā¤
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wow i literally was gonna watch it again sometime i am heartbroken
2 likesFlaming kitsune has .more of jcs
2 likes@Audrey Riley thanksš¼
0 likesItās still there
0 likes@āPRISON TALKā it's there again , rather. But thanks for the headsup. It appeared in my feed just today
1 like@morrisal no worries š
1 likeLife without parole is too light
0 likesHe should get the Jeffrey Dahmer treatment!
0 likesāI canāt eat :((( this is kind of intenseā¦ š„ŗā you cannot be serious man. You killed and sexually assaulted a child. Poor you.
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Love knows no age, don't discriminate, bigot.
11 likes@Genuinely Moist No adult should have any type of relationship with a child youāre sick in the head
159 likes@Andrea Uzcategui Any kind of relationship? Sorry son, don't talk to me, you're still a child
7 likes@Genuinely Moist š¤Øšø Alright bozo, neither does a prison cell.
112 likes@Genuinely Moist you are the worse of the worse
36 likes@Genuinely Moist edge lord alert
50 likes@Genuinely Moistumm sir??
16 likes@samya it's bait
15 likes@Cyan_dreamz Oh yeah dude, the police will be kicking in my door any minute, because I said we shouldn't discriminate against a literal child killer in a YouTube comment section.
5 likes@Cyan_dreamz I wouldn't buy into it, ppl say stuff like this on purpose all the time just for the attention. As right as you are, they're a waste of your time and energy. The best thing you can do is ignore them. /gen
23 likes@Genuinely Moist Heās not talking about the police, friendo
2 likes@Genuinely Moist what the fuck
3 likesHeās going through opiate withdrawals, this is why he canāt eat and why heās freezing and sniffing.. He only pities himself, especially in that state- but I guess he'd act like that to some extent either way.
8 likesTrue, however unfortunately there are worse people :\
0 likes@Genuinely Moist genuinely I wish soon enough you'd be in one of these incriminating videos. I hope you get the worst karma possible.
5 likes@Genuinely Moist maybe you should edit your comment by adding ā/sā at the end. So people know youāre being sarcastic.
4 likesI feel no remorse for him, but it seems like perhaps he might have a trauma that may be a slight reason for his attraction to children and the reason he seems to age regress. idk I just thought it could be a possibility
0 likes@Genuinely Moist Any romantic or sexual feelings someone older has for a child needs to be figured out, but NEVER acted on.
3 likes@Rosie Eevee Yeah, I was joking, if my tone didn't suggest it. My comment explaining that got deleted due to swears.
3 likes@Genuinely Moist oh sorry, wish i had read that b4
1 likeI think he's dope sick. His girlfriend had a record for drugs.
1 like@Genuinely Moist get a hobby instead of trolling, really, you'll feel happier
3 likes@cat How'd you know I've not got hobbies? How do you know how happy I am? How'd you know all these comments weren't made while I was taking a dump?
1 likePretty sure that guy is making fun of maps/nomaps or may unironically be a map/nomap im hoping hes being edgy
0 likes@Genuinely Moist ayo?
0 likes@Myla Keith b8 donāt fall for it
0 likes@TheDirtyBum900 Finally someone twigs on. Definitely in the making fun category.
1 like@Genuinely Moist oof, solid joke?
0 likes@Genuinely Moist cringe bait
0 likes@Genuinely Moist ay yo?
0 likesāIām cold and hungryā given a blanket and food
0 likesāIām acting like this bc Iām cold and hungryā looks at untouched food and used blanket
Uhuh, definitely not because your trying to act innocent while your GUILTY
@Genuinely Moist u shouldn't even joke about that in the first place no one sane would find it funny you're revolting
2 likes@Genuinely Moist im glad that ur joking
0 likes@Myla Keith sarcasm bro relax
0 likes@Deranfan the hacker known as 4chan
0 likesTruly horrifying
0 likesWhy would you say such horrible things, Alex, if that is your real name
0 likesI love how he says Home Depot
0 likesThere's no way I'm watching anything about a child no way.
0 likesWhat's with all these psychopaths going bare foot into the interrogation rooms? Is that a rule?
0 likesI think that woman who lured tori is more evil than this man
1 likePoor Tori would have been 21 now. Bless her soul, I cannot even imagine how terrified she will have been. It's bad enough to fucking murder a child but to make them suffer like that before her end is vile. I can't even comprehend how evil you must be to do such a thing.
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I know š¢. That poor little girl.
12 likesTrue, it's horrific š©
5 likesGod bless! Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior and the Son of God and died on a cross for our sins! Believe God is our Father and Creator and raised His Son Jesus from the dead! Confess and repent of your sins and trust in God! Live for Jesus as He died for you!! (Donāt swear or take Godās name in vain!)
2 likesCompletely sick in the head. I wonder what even goes on in the mind for someone to get off to little kids like that. Itās insane honestly
9 likes@olivia grace so god created this monster to?
26 likes@I ride God created him, but Satan ruled him.
1 like@BRDN-OFFICIAL k
10 likes@olivia grace ummmmmmmm. Shush up
6 likes@Chris haha I think people agree with you rather then her
1 like@M M Gotcha
0 likesShe was born the same year as me and is my namesake too. So terribly awful. :(
0 likesWow sheās my age, I canāt imagine being a kid and going through that.
1 likeWow I'm 21 right now too
0 likesAs the same people who born in 2000, i really feel sad knowing in the same day im enjoying my youth while tori suffered the pain that i can't even imagine, rest in peace she's in the best place now
0 likes@ZenGen Itās the cost of free will.
0 likesChoice wouldnāt have meaning otherwise, but then we see creatures like this guy Mike
@ZenGen "If there is a God he isn't worth spitting on letting alone worshipping."
2 likesWell said.
I really feel sorry for her and everyone who knew her. Noone deserves such thing. Hope this guy will suffer every single day of his remaining life.
2 likes@olivia grace okay but explain to me:
1 likewhy didn't jesus do anything when Tori felt all this pain.
Tell me.
@Das heilige Huhn because he isnāt real lolololol
3 likes@Big Terry of Munro yes, you don't have a logical explanation for any goddesses etc. ^w^
1 likeThe OPP are good interogators. Top knoch.
2 likesOmg that interrogator or whatever his official title is was SO annoying. I understand the mental game he was playing but maaaaaaan I wouldāve just said āyeah I did itā to shut him up š he would have won right away against me
1 likeThe fact that he is playing victim and trying to gain sympathy is actually sickening.
0 likesI could NOT be an interrogator and sit across from these monsters and say things like "just relax," "I'm not mad at you," "we all make mistakes....", "want some eggs?," etc. I GET why they do that but I sure as hell couldn't sit there and make nice with these people.
0 likesThis is a great video, okay? I'm gonna tell what I'm gonna do, alright? I'm gonna binge watch your videos, okay? Then I'm gonna subscribe to these videos, okay? I understand you put a lot of work into these, okay? And I think it's time you get more popularity, right? So I'm just gonna click that subscribe button..
7887 likes...kay?
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I know he did an amazing job wearing him down to get the info but his āokay?ā just about drove me nuts! I believe that if I took a shot for every time he says āokay?ā I would die from alcohol poisoning.
367 likesBest comment on this video! šššš
106 likes@Kreip Flagra you mean from patreon? True crime videos get demonitized on youtube very often, so many of these youtubers need another way to make money from this. And I think they deserve it, these vidoes take a lot of time and effort. It isn't a fuck you to us, the money from patreon supports this channel, the free videos also. š
132 likesKreip Flagra
50 likesItās literally one fucking dollar, if you donāt want to pay it and you live in a country that doesnāt have a current economic crisis, move along
Ahh you beat me to it! Ok?
15 likesšš
5 likesWhatās a dollar shit we are alone together lolol
4 likes@Kreip Flagra As someone who pays the dollar, I'm here to tell you it's worth it. He doesn't put out vids very often but they are always around an hour long and they are all AMAZING, plus he has a ton of back-content that Youtube has forced him to take down.
35 likesThis made me very anxious
9 likesI expected it to take a turn x3 what a wholesome comment. Good for you, sir or maddam
Hahahahahahahahaha!
2 likes@Ann Witten it was apart of him trying to sort of normalize it so that he could get the guy to admit it.
3 likesLevel 1-3 omg your comment made my day š
3 likesOmg this is so great!! Ok?
1 likeOkay
3 likesš¤£š¤£ššš¤
0 likesKreip Flagra I know, right? I mean it itās a whole dollar? Who the hell can afford that? I had to cash in my 401 K, but it was totally worth it.
7 likesEmmi Su great point
1 likeI think him saying āokayā is him purposely nudging him to accept the truth, pushing him closer to open up. Okay?
11 likesLMAO
0 likesLMAO š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesI'm half way though this vid decided to check the comments and now all I can hear is Okay, Okay, Alright , Okay, Kay
12 likes"Alright"
3 likesKreip Flagra okay?
1 likeI'm just gonna "thumbs-up" this comment, a'right?
7 likesthis comment was my thought process when i discovered that chanel
1 likeAboot what i'm doing right now okay
2 likesTHIS COMMENT AHAHA
2 likes:D ayeeeeeee samee
0 likesHahaha
0 likesOK
2 likesTop notch comment! Lol
1 likeDaniel is that you?
1 likeOh my goodness Mr Mackey is that you? Mmmmmmmkay
2 likesok
2 likesYouāre doing the lordās work
2 likeslol... you funny!
1 likeItās to try and constantly gain compliance. Ok?
1 likeI hadn't even noticed this until I read this comment... Now all I hear is OKAY?
4 likesI didn't notice it until I read this comment lololol
1 likeOkayyyyyyy
1 likeSadly, most of his videos are deleted.
0 likesDont accidentally push that subscription button
0 likesThis was the best comment I've read, okay? You have made my day, okay? Carry on ok!
3 likesMmkay?
2 likesLevel 1-3 lol š
0 likesLol
0 likesAhhahshahhahah
0 likesLike your style.
0 likesk
0 likesWeāre past that.
0 likesOkay?
XD
ok x š
0 likesLol
0 likesI read this as Norm Macdonald doing his Quentin Tarantino impression lol
3 likesi didn't even notice that until i read your comment haha
2 likes@Kreip Flagra You can choose what you pay, which could be 1 dollar. 1 dollar. Not like they're charging 20 bucks. I'd say that's an amazing deal. A lot of patreons start at more than a dollar to even unlock the basic content. I really don't see the problem here.
1 like@Kreip Flagra oh God, paying $1 for well produced content... The horror
3 likesMkay
1 likeI think I know where u live.... okay
0 likesThis channel is run by multiple people not just one guy
0 likesJ M mkaay
0 likesYa kilt me daid..okay?
0 likesWell phooie..punk, you beat me to it as well..0.0
0 likesLmao I see what you did here and I like it, okay?
0 likesOkay
0 likesššš
0 likesSeriously. If I hear "OK?" one more time....
2 likeslegit me ok?
0 likesAmazing :)
0 likesI read your comment before watching enough of this video and was a bit confused.... it didn't take me long to figure out the humor!!! :)
2 likesššš M'kaaay
1 likeIm not even there and this detective is making me want to die.
3 likesThat is classic š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesš
0 likesYour comment is probably the best thing from the dumpster fire that is 2020, okay?
3 likesYou are a legend
2 likesalright Geesh
0 likesHas anyone counted the oks?
3 likesRight on point. Ok?
1 likeHAH. Didn't realize until I read your comment how he talks
0 likesYou know what? This is the best thing to binge while I work, okay?
0 likesAfter a while I can only focus on OKAY!!
0 likesHahaha š
0 likesClosest to Mr Mackey in real life
1 likeMost adorable comment, okay?
0 likesI noticed this too, right? Made me wonder if his rambling was supposed to wear the suspect down, okay? He didn't leave any dead air at all, right? Maybe the tactic was for him to just kept talking without giving the suspect space to respond, then the suspect would eventually take the first opportunity to get a word in edgewise and say something without thinking, okay?
1 likeI know if it were me, it would absolutely drive me nuts, okay?
Now thats some funny shit. But this is sad as fuck
0 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesHe says alright just as much. lol
0 likesI love you
2 likesI love you.
0 likes@carlos bond what about merch though, alright?
0 likes@Ophelia š¤K SO TRUE
0 likes@Kelley Smith this is what I'll be doing the rest of 2020, okay?
0 likescanadians...
1 likeSames, okay?
0 likesI did this
0 likesš¤£š¤£
0 likesLevel 1-3 Iāve read the file, thereās no doubt in my mind you are going to do all of those things, okay? Iām gonna get you a bucket, okay?
0 likesUh k, alright! Okay?
1 likeEXACTLY!!! The "ok" and "alright"'s would be enough to get me to confess...just so they'd stop!
1 like@Emmi Su what is the patreon? It isn't tagged in the channel ,wanna go check that shit out.
0 likesBut then you didn't do anything sob sob wahhh
0 likesOk
0 likesI'm giving a thumb up okay?
0 likes@Kreip Flagra its 1 dollar.
0 likesOkay!!!!ššš
0 likesOkay š¤£š¤£šššš
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0 likesššššš
0 likeshaha quoting the detective much? hahaha made me lol
0 likesAll I can think about is the teacher from South Park ahahahaha
0 likesšššššš
0 likesI know there are lots of shit youtubers, okay? They mass produce cheap content for views, alright? Iāve seen āem, that doesnāt phase me. But I donāt think thatās you, mkay? Youāre not that kinda youtuber. Mkay?
1 like@munstify aaaand sold! Iām getting his patreon right now.
0 likes10-4, I to like them , I donāt have an addiction I promise
0 likesNot sure if this was meant to be in a K voice but thatās how my brain read it and itās The fucking bomb
0 likesPriceless
0 likesOkay!
0 likesOkay
0 likes@Kreip Flagra I know this comment is old...but can I really pay for more of this content?? This video was very hard to watch but I like this channel a lot, this creator deserves something for all the work put in that's enjoyed by millions.
0 likesI didn't even notice the repetition until you pointed it out. Thanks now I'll always notice it.
0 likes@SKY DADDY no he just put them on patreon because of them getting demonetized.
0 likesthis detective is very professional
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Yeah they called in the big dogs for sure
1 like"Thats why pencils have erasers."
1 likeYou know it's serious when they offered them food..
0 likes"Shit, shake....puke" š¤£
3 likesāIām too sick to talkā
1887 likesāThatās fine, you can listenā
Oof the interrogator is fantastic at building a relationship while maintaining a stern attitude
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@Luke Cannon does it sound like I am?
0 likes@Femto I didn't know that.
0 likesUs Canadians are naturally passive aggressive :) gets the point across respectfully
1 like@OSSS Boys š
0 likes@OSSS Boys why are you even trying to link that?
0 likesJust to lighten the air in the comment section, go ahead and take a shot everytime the investigator says "okay".
0 likesstan the second cop that completely grilled him!!!
0 likesThe detective is absolutely incredible, anyone who his name and where i can follow him?
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Jim Smyth
1 like@Audrey Riley Thank you.
0 likesWhat triggers me the most is that the interrogator ends all sentences with "Okay" or "Alright". If he is so professional, than why can't he talk normally?
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I think it might be a Canadian thing ?
0 likesThis detective is worth his weight in gold. He's EXHAUSTING.
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Having the right to stay quiet won't help against that guy...
1 likeJim smith, best cop ever?
1 likeāget rid of your f-ing security blanketāā¦ lol
1 likeIf they ever get paroled they can live right next to the bonehead judge that made that happen.
0 likesThis story hurts to even hear.
0 likesMan this cop is relentless. He doesnāt stop, itās like he doesnāt even have to think about what to say.
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That's expertise and experience. This is what being good at your job looks like.
276 likesLordBhorak Yea he is clearly extremely experienced. I guess thatās why JCS said they are known as some of the best in the world.
113 likesYeah, ok
4 likesHe's on adderal AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15 likesItās hypnotic
16 likesHeās done this a lot of times okay?
68 likesHeās not a first timer okay?
Itās not like he knows nothing okay?
The walls are white okay?
@Lars Petersson He gains power with every single OK he says.
75 likesIt's easy to when you drink
0 likes@Lars Petersson i know what it's all aboot, okay?
34 likes@The Abnormal This is realistically possible.
0 likesFunny
0 likeshe hit him with the āyouāre not that guy palā
19 likesIt's doing my head in. I'll confess in a minute and I live in Australia
15 likesWhen he said his job is to make him squirm and that heās having a good time .. that shit was so alpha.
16 likes@Lars Petersson lol... even if I was innocent I'd confess just to stop him saying Okay. Its painful
7 likes@Lady L I found my self out of breath at times actually, just listening to it.
5 likesThe same cop interrogated someone on another prolific case in Canada by murderer Russell Williams and get's a confession out of him. There's a couple documentaries of it, here's one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj7QRP37Wn0&t=925s
6 likes@Lars Petersson I found myself nearly banging my head off a wall šš¤Ŗ
2 likes@Taylor Tori Ireland thanks for info. Actually have seen that one. I'm sure "The Behavior Panel" channel on YouTube interviewed the detective bcos they loved his technique.. altho don't quote me on that, I might be confused after all those okays.. lol .
2 likes@Lady L Well there is no doubt in my mind okay? I believe you okay.
6 likes@Lars Petersson ššš¤Ŗ
2 likes@Mionel Lessi He's storing it for his ultimate move
1 likeIt seems itās about 10 things (in slightly different ways) repeating over and over and over, okay.
1 like@Lady L š¤£
1 likehe's not a cop. well technically he is but he is a psychologist. he works for the canadian fbi.
5 likesyou can't explain away your dna on the victims body. they just want to know if he's committed other crimes. if he talks, helps them. he will get the chance of parole, if this is his only murder.
this denial will be used against him at his trial. he's a pure narcissist... zero empathy/regret. he'd do it again. he's a serial killer.
@LordBhorak Yeah, he's the best I've seen so far
1 like@Lars Petersson I'm 10 minutes into the video, why did you have to point this out?
2 likes@Cenfre youāre in for a ride okay šš
4 likesSounds like my mum
0 likes@LordBhorak he is doing very good job
0 likesThis sounds like the man who interviewed serial killer Russell Williams... exact same voice and body shape, has to be him..
2 likesIf you don't look at the video, it sounds like Ricky from TPB is conducting the interview.
1 like@mattonbass lol if it was Ricky there would be farrrrrr more curse words lmao
1 likeThis detective(Jim Smith)is a legend at the OPP, he"s the one who got Lt Col Russ Williams to confess.
2 likes@meauxmoney-neauxproblems 225 this detective is a celebrity. His resume says it all. Bernardo, Russel Williams and Of course this case.
0 likes@The Abnormal "ok"
0 likes@joonho bae oK WHAT?
0 likesRegardless, what I learn from these videos is that so long as you keep your mouth shut, they can yap yap yap and won't get anywhere. If you know you're guilty and you're going in regardless of confession or not, just zip it, maybe there's a possibility they won't have enough to convict you. If I ever get picked up by cops, these videos will be an invaluable help to me, I'll ask for a lawyer and won't squeal. I know the cops are not my friends, are not trying to exonerate me, they merely want a confession, doesn't matter from whom.
1 likethis cop has some darn fine coffee, is all I'm sayin.
0 likesA professional at work.
0 likesHe didnāt think about what to say which is the problem
0 likes@Lars Petersson you forgot alright
0 likes@Azelia and yet he failed
0 likes@mattaddison19 yeah but donāt let the video drag on. 30 seconds in after they say āhi Iām lt. Mike Whatsit, say āI want a lawyerā
0 likesHaha I know right! I have trouble just constructing a single sentence unprepared lol
0 likes@Cowbway yea I left it oot. Only Ookeys sounded funnier ooright?
1 like@Lady L
0 likesSo trueā¦ā¦.
Well a lot of it is scripted so yes heās not having to think
0 likes@Lars Petersson LMAOOO You made me laugh today, okay?š
0 likes@I Drink Milk
0 likesYes this is true, itās basically the same 6 or so phrases just swapped about at random. But itās his stamina; the way he flows, without stopping, that struck me. I just couldnāt; after 5 minutes Iād at least have to pause for water and to catch my breathā¦ā¦
@Taylor Tori Ireland Russell Williams is a legendary interrogation.
0 likes@Lady L Yes, you're right. They have a recent video chatting with Smyth.
1 like@Adrian Sure, it's Jim Smyth.
1 likeI actually watched this whole video at x1.25 speed and it's even more impressive lol
1 likeHis love for the victims and the pain we feel knowing what she must of went thru not being able to save her. the anger.questioning how could you do this to anyone especially a child. Wanting to smash him like a bug. knowing nothing can and will fix this. Its overwhelming
0 likeshe has yrs of practice with all kinds of criminals and their lies...he was also well trained
0 likes@Tim King I wish he'd interrogate me to sleep
0 likesIt's awe inducing really
0 likesWhat a sick world we live in
0 likes39:27 Why is Fear-then-Relief the italian flag upsidedown?
0 likesMy teori is the "Relief-then-Fear-teori" or RTFT for short... Basicly you travel to italy (Relief) but then you meet italians (Fear).
I miss JCS these new inspired pages just aren't doing it for me.
6 likesOh man! That barrage of words... relentless! Who wouldn't go nuts?
0 likesi am so happy that the detective isn't a car salesman because he could sell a mini to a family of 10
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Just the very thought of this scenario made me immediately run down to the nearest dealership and buy a mini cooper š°š°
45 likesi'm on my third mini. they are kinda addicting!
18 likesThe manās got super powers
9 likesOkay?
1 like@Rebel Torrents on my 4th classic, had 3 new over the years too, they are endearing little monsters :)
5 likes@Karen Vaughan I hope to own a classic someday! Mine have all been 2nd gen, I'd never buy 1st or 3rd (or newer) but man those Classics have my heart too!
3 likesWell, I'd say that a mini is even more needed in a family of 10. Of course, you can fit the whole family in a van, but are you sure you want to fit EVERYONE every time in a car with you? You'd probably want some personal space and alone time.
1 likeSport package
0 likes:))
0 likesI'll take one in every color!
1 likeHe's using many of the same techniques as a car salesman.
0 likesIt's embarassing how hard this comment made me laugh... Nice one!
0 likessee sir... i don't think you're a monster. sometimes you dont want the family around. here's your excuse, you just need to buy the mini. there is no room for the family in there, just yourself.
1 likeI'm not so sure. 3 and a half hours of him rambling and he could barely get a word out of Rafferty. With all due respect, that really wasn't impressive by any means.
0 likes23:06 "He's dealt with that type of stuff and it doesn't bother him"
0 likesNot the right choice of words dude. If it doesn't bother you then you should be in a cell too
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he's obviously just saying that to make the guy want to talk to him
1 like@Remnant
0 likesIdk how that statement would ever get him to talk but oook
woman moment
0 likesI would love to be this investigators child.
0 likesThey literally had nothing if she didnāt confess man
0 likesI'm guessing by now, Mikie also knows the feeling of something very big and hard being forced in tight dark places.. Only, he gets to experience it over and over. :) Not so tight now, right Mikie?
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Don't count on it. The sicko might just have learned to enjoy it. He seems capable of deriving pleasure from the most vile ways.
0 likesIf you ever get in a room with Jim, just confess. Dude is legendary.
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Then we wouldn't have any glorious JCS content.
9 likesJim actually worked my armed robbery case in 2017. The man is a pitbull. My lawyer battled him for a long trail, and I barely beat the case. Only. Wait a minute I just made all that up. My bad I'm high as shit.
49 likesMemphis Skallywag you rascal
13 likes@Jay Dyer š peace brother
10 likesMemphis Skallywag weed is pretty great but can make u say some hilariously silly shit
3 likesBut I think they do not confess immediately on purpose because we would gave no footage to laugh to ššš
1 like@Memphis Skallywag you not in luck because Jim is coming for your dealer bud
1 likeI will say the same thing about those two detectives who interrogated Chris Watts. Heck, that office clock would have made me confess. And yes, I'm guilty for licking a lollipop and putting it back when I was 7. It was so tempting. I will never forget. Guilt.
1 likeWhen he first comes in the interrogation room he seems like someone withdrawling from opiates Iām sure he is a addict, I guess we will find out as I watch
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It said the girl was in jail for drug charges so I think they might have both been fiends.
0 likesI can't imagine how digustet his family and friend's and kolleg's must have be when they heard the new's.
1 likeIcan only imagine becouse i am already so disgustet on every breath he makes!
This interrogator's voice is comforting
0 likesI have to disagree with this tactic. I would never interrogate a suspect in his condition. I know defense attorneys that would rip this guy apart from doing this. I would have put him in holding till he was feeling better then hammering it to him just like he's doing.
0 likes"So it doesn't matter if you eat or not, I don't care either way" (continues pestering him to eat)
0 likesAgent Smith should only ever be called to interrogate Mr. Anderson...
0 likesDoes anyone have this investigator's "mm'kay?" count??
1 likeThese people think they're too smart to get caught. In reality, given modern technology, they have close to 0% chance of evading justice. Just throwing their lives away for a few seconds of whatever enjoyment they can derive from their selfish fantasies.
0 likesthe legend says that the detective is still talking
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ššš LOL *classic
9 likesš¤£š¤£
3 likesš¤£šš I can see that though š
4 likesAnd legend also has it, that Mike is still sniffling.
27 likesto be honest though, he just didn't shut up. He reaaally knows how to talk xd
6 likesš
0 likesI need a time stamp for when he finishes talking about things that happen
1 likeI believe it
0 likesHis wife is probably a mute
1 likeIn this video, he talked more than in my whole year
1 likeLmfao he does have a nice voice though
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0 likesYeah when he said he was the best i guess he ment best canada has
0 likes@Anon Liquid 33:00 ish
0 likeslol
0 likesI missed your videos and all your great comments.
2 likesDrink a shot every time he says "ok"
0 likesdo one on the menendez brothers.
0 likesThe fact he is so upset and shocked he got caught makes me think he's done this before and gotten away with it and that makes me sick
1 like"Im scared of losing my life!" Says the human reject who murdered a child. Disgusting.
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The public is scared you wonāt lose your life Mike.
81 likes@Carolyn Grey Speaking for all the men serving prison sentences across this beautiful country of ours.. I can assure you, These guys here.. We make sure they suffer. AND BOY DO THEY!!! There had been cases were they were literally rape to death :D
21 likes@A Thought To Think About well thats very reassuring š
12 likes@A Thought To Think About Couldnt happen to nicer people. Thx for doing God's work in there.
5 likes@Carolyn Grey No it's not. How can you support rape?
8 likesThese criminals should be punished appropriately by the state (which is obviously a big failure in the criminal system). Please don't condone rape because of that failure. Ultimately there is very little justice in this world, God will sort him.
@Carolyn Grey The way sex offenders are treated in prison is part of the reason why so many rapes end with murder. Since the criminal knows his life is over if he gets caught, it becomes all or nothing for him - either he kills the witness for a chance at getting away with the crime or gets tortured for the end of his life in prison. If the justice system ensured the safety of "chomos", there'd be a lot less dead children on this planet.
2 likes@Judah Max yes i would actually and i wouldn't lose any sleep over it
3 likesHuman is a strong word... Parasite orrrrrr monster fit much better
4 likes@A Thought To Think About That makes me happier than any heroin addict finally getting a hit after weeks of withdrawal
1 like@Carolyn Grey ā What about people who get wrongly convicted though? Wouldn't they end up getting tortured as well??
4 likes@Carolyn Grey Sorry. You have a very superficial view of the law and penal system. Btw, I said 'state' as I am in the UK. I've seen injustice from the wrong side of a cell. I know of people who were raped in prison. Kids really, in a man's prison. And I know that the prisons are FULL of people who have done VERY LITTLE wrong, if not falsely accused, or, as is most common, not able to afford a committed, decent lawyer and thus found guilty and imprisoned with a crap, biased judge rubber stamping the trumped up prosecution case.
3 likesA system like this CREATES hatred and the mindset of hardened criminals, even if you entered it completely innocent.
Child rapist/killers deserve little mercy in my book, which is the Qur'an by the way. But the standard of proof is high before any finding of guilt and penalty is imposed. And any doubt in the facts of case or legal process gets the capital punishment waived/substituted with another sanction.
Prisoners are not being reformed in prison, other than a tiny minority perhaps.
They are full members of the human species. The children of Adam. And as such they deserve dignity. A system that tacitly or openly encourages men to rape one another is a disgrace and a blot on the face of justice.
@Carolyn Grey absolutelyš
2 likes@Carolyn Grey i dont think we should allow a state the power of being able to torture criminals... but hey if you really wanted to i mean IM not gonna stop you lmao
3 likes@A Thought To Think About Thank you for your positive contributions to society šš¼š
0 likes@Carolyn Grey šÆ...exactly....sound like a pity pervert giving an excuse for why heās about to do something thoughš¤
2 likes@Carolyn Grey 2 reasons. 1st we don't live in a world where an eye for an eye is acceptable. We become no better than them if we live in mob mentality.
0 likes2nd. You know how many men who have been falsely accused for murder or rape etc that been found out years later they were innocent. Not only they lost years of their life but you want to put them through torture as well?
@A Thought To Think About i think you watch too many movies. Very rarely does that happen. Sex criminals are put into a different type of blocks from the rest of the criminals. Its for the vulnerable criminals who have all done similar crimes. So they won't attack someone for a sick crime when they done something similar
0 likesHe was asked what he was most afraid of. He gave a normal reasonable answer, which anyone would give in that situation, guilty or not. He did a lot of horrible, evil, fucked up things, but saying the true fact that he's afraid of his life clearly isn't one of them. This statement should not bother you.
0 likes@Carolyn Grey well except for this guy and people who did things like him, torturing inmates and criminals is barbaric. We have moved past that now. I mean, less than two hundred years ago, we were branding, and pressing inmates with hot iron bars. But I see whyād you want this guy to be tortured
0 likes@GreenEarthBlueskies right??? Wtf!
0 likes@Mister T i obviously only think it should be for cases where there is no room for doubt if someone is going to be put to death or tortured there should be 100% certainty that they committed the crime. In this day & age with cameras & dna its not that hard to be certain & in cases without it then sure just give them.life in prison. But when there is a case like THIS it might actually be helpful to make an EXAMPLE of these ppl so that other sickos will KNOW that in this country we absolutely do not stand for child abuse/ murder, & maybe if pedo's knew that they will be tortured/ killed if they harm a child it MIGHT just stop them from doing in the future. Its not about an eye for an eye its about sending a clear message anD PREVENTING THESE THINGS FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.
0 likesShoulda yanked that blanket from him as he left the room lmao
1 likeI wonder if the police officers who give them suspect food ever spit in their food
0 likes"Don't be shy, you'll find I'm pretty relaxed, pretty laid back ...... " šš
0 likesCool fuking job. The combo of patience and focus from these interrogators is amazing - to those that's the opposite of them.
0 likesPeople who hurt children do not deserve to live anymore.
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When they find out in prison what he did, he will wish he was dead
79 likesNah. If they're dead then they can't suffer the same way their victims did. Let em' rot in prison where the gronks belong.
69 likesThe inmates will probably take care of this piece of crap
18 likesExtra punishment for ever
5 likesoh they do deserve to live.... but in a conStant reminder of pain and abuse to remember their victim/s believe me if i had any ruling over it no one would be doing it EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO!!
5 likes10000 percent
3 likesFacts are facts America!
4 likes@Charlesbjtown agree its not even about vengeance it's just about getting rid of garbage
10 likesFACT
2 likesThey get released back into the public daily. Scary.
4 likesI think they should be sent to a so called "working camp" in North Corea, where they pull out yr teeth and no food. The only thing you get to do (if yr lucky) is to dig until your so exhausted you can't speak (Oh, and your not allowed to speak) and then the same thing happens the day after, and the day after that, and then....
6 likesBut people who hurt grown ups - thats fine?
2 likesI was thinking the first detective kept saying "I've seen people who did a lot worse things than you," but honestly, what could be 'much worse' than kidnapping, raping, and murdering an innocent child?
3 likesMaybe doing it multiple times, but otherwise?
@Charlesbjtown Itās not a competition. We all know that any r4pe, torture, and murder is absolutely vile.
6 likesThey just merely pointed out (without saying it) the universal belief that it takes an extra sick person to purposely prey on the innocence of a child (like luring her to see a puppy, something you and I would be more keen to) ā a child who likely had no concept of even knowing the true horrors of the world and was purposely targeted over it.
We all know all of it is bad when it happens to anyone, and no one deserves any of it to happen point blank. When someone to purposely chooses a child FOR their innocence and naivety, though, it takes that heinous act to a new low.
Thereās a reason why CP is classified separately to the p0rn that shows real life atrocities. Thereās a reason why sexual assault and abduction is treated different when a child is involved. Thereās a reason why r4pe and murder is handled a certain way when it involves a child, as well. Itās all terrible regardless who it happens to and all cases want to all resolve the same with the victims getting their justice, yes ā¦ no one is saying otherwise. Itās just the acts being committed towards someone who adults are supposed to protect is what makes it harder to process. Itās why in a lot of prisons around the world, anyone in for doing something to a child is seen as being at the bottom and will be targeted. Itās that universal worldwide belief that puts children in a separate class of protection for their innocence.
Itās the same thing towards people who prey on the elderly and those who are hindered mentally/physically as it is with children. People who canāt exactly defend themselves or understand whatās going on that the public feels the need and the want to protect. So, no, it isnāt a competition as I said itās all bad ā¦ but it takes an extra disgusting person to do this to one of them because of them being who they are.
donāt kill them. let them rot in pain for the rest of their life, for as long as possible.
0 likeslol so if it was an adult instead it's somehow more acceptable?
0 likesKilling a girl with a fucking hammer.
2 likesI can't even grasp this idea
Facts
0 likes@LiƧƔ To me, murdering someone ( thinking on a deeper level, we are all kind of sibblings, origin from the same source once) is evil and of course totally unacceptable no matter adult or child. But when a child, people are reminded of this same origin and if having kids of yr own that you love more than life itself, it of course triggers those feelings people are expressing here, also a child or for example a disable/retarded person are much more vulnarable and that also creates those feelings. But to answer your question, NO, all murderds are horrible, evil and unexusable actions, no matter what. (And if you are a grown up, something tells me you already knew/felt all this already, unless perhaps you do not have kids of yr own. I actually don't, but lots of kids in my family, and feel all these feeling when the victim is a child)
1 like@Adrian Flo if I think of them like a sickness, I think even more so put them down if they done this. People would still do it but its not about that its about justice for the people who carry the burden of pain.
0 likes@Adrian Flo it cant get much worse than torturing a baby to death, I will give my life glady to take theirs from them Five people, one person, its all the same. Justice is whats needed. And that comes after understanding, that you can't change a personality, they are fooked after they commit a crime so bad, I understanding mental health, but perverts who go on to kill out off sexual pleasure almost certainly can't be helped.
0 likes@CoWoVeR the MoO Still increases severity of the crime. By killing people you are statistically saying that more people have to live with the burden.
0 likesIn no way is death something these people deserve. They deserve what they get in jail from other inmates.
@Adrian Flo because for every individual they're one person. So killing one and not having real justice is like killing everyone.
0 likes@Adrian Flo we will all have deal with the burden of pain, and emotional shit, so bring it on. Eye for an eye. For them who stand beside you show them respect, for them who stand behide you, protect them. for them who stand against you show no mercy. Basic law. If you cant follow the laws tho shall not rape and murder kids, then show no mercy.
0 likes@Adrian Flo some are even given a better education and knew identification to become even better criminals. He could be moving in a street next to you.
0 likes@CoWoVeR the MoO That was truly cringe to read not gonna lie. No not all people have to live and deal with the burden of having been raped or having had a loved one murdered.
0 likesI think i rather air on the side of forensic psychology to help us minimize these types of people. Catch them when they are young, understand why these people exists and makes sure they get on the right path.
@Adrian Flo I dont understand your reaction. I never said anything about everyone will deal with rape.. everyone will have to deal with the burden of pain. If my son did this he would deserve death, I would have to deal with that pain , pain knowing he killed and raped someone and the fact he will be put to death. Have they got a mental illness, or a personality disorder?. I nevr heard anything mentioned about it. To me its sound the guy just wanted get his end away. The women wanted her guy to like her more. so she gifted him with a child, when she seen him giving the girl attention and not her she got jealous and then smashed the kids head in with an hammer. That is not mental illness. That's evil.
0 likesDid the woman get arrested too?
0 likes@Mkmf 1 not every inmate is dangerous sheesh
0 likes@D C They both got 25 to life.
0 likesThey have a massive psychological disorder, but then again so are serial killers.
0 likesThey deserve the āLaw abiding citizenā treatment
0 likesAbsolutely. But you canāt guarantee against wrongful arrests sadly
0 likesAmen!
0 likesWood chippers are too good for them.
0 likes@PoisonTheOgres itās just an interview tactic. The detective doesnāt really believe. He is trying to make it easier for the dirt bag to confess.
0 likesAll humans are equal anyone who murders shouldnāt live
0 likesNo one should be murdered including adults
0 likesNope itās all bad killing a child or an elderly person isnāt any worse than killing an adult weāre all human
0 likesNo one should be murdered for any reason children arenāt special
0 likesDamn right! Thatās why I love training and fighting :DD
0 likesshe just wanted to get her mothers earrings back to her. she just wanted to see that puppy. thats it.
1 likeIs there any use of the drink cup? Does it make the interrogator look more calm or something?
0 likesi love these defectives LOL, the last one is just roasting him nonstop
0 likes14:10 HOLY FUCKING COW! THE NERVE! This piece of shit is lucky we live in the 21st century.
0 likesI think what baffles me the most is how two people can collabprate to do something so heinous. Like, who brings up the notion first? How do you convince to other to help you do something like this?
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I always think about this too. Is it abuse? Is it just a manipulative person who feels completely confident in their ability to keep and control someone, to the point that they could get them to do anything?
84 likesThe girl was 10 years younger than him. Probably fell in love with him and had issues at home or something. He obviously manipulated her into doing it.
134 likesDrugs
51 likesDrugs
8 likesThing is, it's not a rare or uncommon occurrence. Abduction and murder is more unusual, but child abuse of all kinds is not and usually there are multiple people who are complicit in it. š
16 likesHe offered her money and drugs!!
7 likesYeah I was always confused about that part. I'm thinking it's mostly luck since you never know if you'll be reported.
1 likeThe problem is people automatically assume women are innocent sweet creatures incapable of violence, yet when you look into it, there are plenty of cases of women killing, directly or indirectly. Old, young, white, black, man, woman, evil can lie within anyone
23 likes@Random guy with a baseball batte i agree, everyone can be equally evil. Thats how humans are,
3 likes@Random guy with a baseball batte I think your point was that the girl, as well as many others do, saw her gender and assumed she was safe just because she was a women. Even though women have been proven to be not safe too. The problem here is that you arenāt acknowledging that most of the time, itās men, not women, who prove to be unsafe. Therefore, it is true that people are generally more at ease with women. But thatās because generally men are more dangerous.
4 likesSo yes, itās bad to trust a stranger just because sheās a women, but itās also more likely that a bad stranger will be a man.
That being said, because people feel this way about women, predators often use women to lure prey, but the PERSON BEHIND IT is a man.
So yeah, they are both bad and yeah, women do hurt people. But he is (way) more bad than than her, and men hurt people (physically) (way) more.
But I donāt think thereās anything wrong with you pointing something out about society while still holding the guy accountable. I think in your original comment you said something about female killers, and since this woman isnāt the same as them, I wouldnāt necessarily group her in with women who go out on their own to plan and commit murders. After all, it was a man behind this murder.
So in the end one reason not to trust female strangers is because men (most killers) are using them to get to you.
Another reason is because she, a woman (less killers) is out to get you.
So two separate things. But itās a fair point just a little catty with the way you say āpeople think theyāre sweet innocent creatures incapable of violenceā. And no, thatās not what people think.
Like attracts like. When you see these couples who have done that one person has found another person with intention who has been abused in the past, and is able to easily manipulate them and Conjure up feelings of anger, of lack of power, of feeling like a victim and then parades the idea of how good it would feed to be the one inflicting pain and not the one enduring pain. Anyone else who went on a date with this guy would sense there is something off and he gave off weird vibes, when she went on a date with him it reminded her of something she has been around her whole life or as a child. A creepy child molester is likely someone who played a huge role in her life. Once he found someone who experienced that (as he likely was molested too) he could play up the negative aspects of being a victim and convince her of how good it would be to take back that power. Itās horrible. But itās very easy for two people who been through abuse and are natural predators as well. Manipulation is part of their every day demeanor.
7 likes@Random guy with a baseball batte Im glad that girl is going to live with that every day for the rest of her life. I hope shes free too, so every day she wakes up and knows what she did, and that there is nothing she can ever do to fix it. Thats justice.
0 likes@Banquet Meal No amount of manipulation could ever justify her taking part in it
1 likeDrugs and Porno Addictions sick piles
0 likes" this isn't a parking ticket" š š
0 likesThis is why I have no problem with the death penalty. Itās like taking out the trash.
2 likesDrink every time the interrogator says "Ok?"
0 likes50:32 "I just met one tonight"
0 likesDAAAMN šš
This guy has such a punchable face. I feel for Toriās dad. I can imagine heās had a lot of nights of wanting a minute in a room with this guy. If anyone deserved death penalty, itās guys like this.
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My Channel absolutely. What trash.
5 likeswe need the cheesegrater penalty
13 likesFuck yeah..
1 likeJesus this detective can talk alot!! Just throw him jail the piss of ####
0 likesThis guy seems good
0 likesthe interrogator literally talk for 60 minutes non-stop just by himself........
1 likeThirty mins in and the guy barely said a word but the officer hasnt stopped talking at all lol
0 likesI love the "bad cop". he said "I'm sitting in this room for Tori, making you squirm and putting you through some of the grief you caused her...and I'm having a good time!". then he goes on to talk about Mike and the serial killer in prison making googly eyes at each other in their glass cells. š¤£
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@77thSOUND yes, maybe a slight unprofessional. I think at that point they realized they weren't going to get him to talk about anything. also, he probably was taking her murder to heart being as he was the lead investigator and he just wanted to give a little something back. I don't know how they could keep from choking him out. then again, he'd probably walk if they did that. ugh
27 likes@77thSOUND I don't think anyone is lining up to defend the criminals of child rape and murder when a cop says mean words.
7 likesHe got life with a chance of parole after 25 years. Such an enlightened society..
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Itās terrible how different sentences work for prison and different crimes
0 likesPeople make mistakes, that's why pencils have erasers, it's that simple. If I could turn time back for you, I would, but it's not that simple ...
0 likes23:13 he is such a bad ass
1 likeThat would be awful if you lost your child like that, police should be ashamed of their self wasting time on asking grandparents questions.
0 likes"Lured her with a puppy"
911 likesWhen I was a little kid my parents always told me that if someone ever tried to convince me to help them find a lost puppy to not go with them. I always thought that was silly and not something that actually happened but clearly I was wrong...
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Probably because of how focused on it being a 60 year old guy. An 18 year old girl threw her off. It's used a lot in child trafficking apparently.
104 likesI thought it was just something people said even after a man asked me to help him find his lost puppy (I was 9). I only realized in the last couple years that maybe that guy wasnāt on the up and up. I thought it was unfortunate that I wasnāt in a position to help that poor man find his lost puppy because I wasnāt allowed to leave with strangers ā bad guys elsewhere had ruined it for everyone. I wasnāt very bright.
54 likesI remember when my brother and I were little and this guy passing by our fence tried to convince us to come help him find his lost puppy... We knew it wasn't a good idea from our parents telling us so... Can't imagine what would've happened if we didn't know any better.
33 likesI once heard someone say that the easiest tell that someone's got ulterior motives is if they ask a child for help instead of an adult.
98 likesI grew up in the 90s which was the peak of stranger danger because of the kidnapping spike in the mid to late 80s. Unfortunately there are monsters out there willing to take the innocence of children.
23 likesI fully just went gave my daughter a lecture about random adults asking her if she wants to see puppies, kittens, LOLs or anything that she likes. No, no, noooo!
38 likesMaia Hadley If Iām a grown man looking for my dog, at best, I might ask some kids āHey, did you see a dog recently?ā and ask which way.
27 likesIām not going to ask some little kid to come with me - a total stranger- and find my dog, and I imagine thatās the case with most adult men, especially nowadays.
Iām just thankful you knew not to go, cuz I have little doubt things wouldāve ended badly. Itās sad, but the days of āthe good-natured stranger looking for help finding their dogā might be over... if they ever existed in the first place.
Ted Bundy would do that and hold a leash. It's like, why the fuck would I need to help you find your dog?! lmao. Insane truly, but people are too kind.
10 likesHopefully kids these days: "Oh, you need help finding your puppy?" Whips out cell phone, "I'm calling animal control. I have them on speed dial."
11 likesI thought the same about the candy thing
2 likes@Carol Ann
10 likesHoney, you were NINE. Being innocent and trusting is a good, healthy thing to be when youāre a child. It doesnāt make you dumb, it just means that you didnāt expect the evil that people can do. No nine year old should know that reality if at all possible.
@Enthie Gavoir yea pretty much maybe if they ask a kid have you seen a puppy running around that's something I buy but if they ask a kid for help looking for it that's a huge red flag.
4 likesOne time when I was 14 my parent and step-parent ran out to get some groceries and I stayed home to watch my two brothers (6)(12) and sister (4). They were outside in the backyard playing on the trampoline and suddenly I saw a man enter our backyard through the gate (the gate was locked from the inside of the backyard, so he wouldāve had to reach over) holding a PUPPY. I was outside, but I ran inside to grab the phone, while all the kids gathered around the man to look at the puppy. I called my parents in a panic. Thank goodness it was a friend of theirs (that they were expecting to come over) but it really scared me. They did apologize for not telling me he was coming over š but still lol
10 likesBerry Tears when I was about thirteen I was out jogging in a quiet area when a man asked me to grab his dog for him (it was off the lead), it was a bit weird but I did it anyway. When he grabbed the dog off me he took a little bit too long and I knew something was off right away, a group of older kids walked by though and Iāve never seen a guy walk away so fast. Itās definitely a common thing they do to try and snatch kids.
4 likesA 9 years old girl has been kidnapped in Three-Rivers, Quebec near 10 years ago with the same "lost puppy technic". They found her body some years ago but not the killer.
6 likesCĆ©drika Provencher was her name. If someone knows something, Call the police in the province of Quebec
@AlmondMilk I was reading that, thinking, "Oh, man, where is this going...? Did all those kids end up on the sides of milk cartons....?"
1 likePleased instead to see a happy ending. :)
@Lucy Harrison That's an incredibly unsettling story, particularly how you describe it as a "quiet" area- a place where people jog and walk their dogs and go for walks; ostensibly a "safe" place.
1 likeGlad to hear you did not get...snatched (?) God knows what scheme this individual had up his sleeve.
In the end, you won. And he scampered off like a weasel with no dignity.
I would never have thought to tell my kids this. Lesson learnt, thanks.
1 like@Sir Dankleberry The '70s were surely far worse than the '90s. They had so much more sick serial killers back then, Dahmer, Bundy, etc.
0 likesI remember when I was really little, me and my best friend were allowed to wander around a Bed Bath & Beyond and some guy came up and started making conversation with me, asking me if I did sports, etc, ended up asking me if I liked kittens or puppies better, and "oh my goodness, you like puppies, really? It just so happens that my dog just gave birth and I have the puppies in the parking lot right now, someone needs to adopt them!". I was such an idiot, I was actually thinking about going with him. My friend who was quietly glaring at this dude the whole time grabs my hand and goes "We need to ask our mom!" and pulls me away. I thought she was being so rude, but a few years later looking back on it... really glad she was there and not as stupid as I was. :3
6 likesThe "stranger danger" guy was always this shadowy, dirty old mean dude with a trench coat, and the guy who approached me was friendly and well-dressed, so as a like 6 year old I just never imagined he could ever hurt me.
@hannahrae927 It's a normal thing to want to help with. Just like how Bundy would fake injuries & ask for help, too.
2 likes@Loddfafnisodr it speaks but has nothing to say
1 like@OfficialSPbeats Yes I know. I am from Washington. My grandma lived next door to him on Queen Anne Hill when she went to college before he started killing people. She had his hammer she borrowed from him to hang some paintings for her whole life, and she soon moved to another town and never gave the hammer back. I now possess the Ted Bundy hammer. it's kind of an heirloom Xp lol. My mom is worried it's cursed, but I assure her it's just a normal hammer lol.
1 likeIt's just so sad because kids are so empathetic and taught every day in school to be 'good little helpers' and monsters like this abuse their native innocence and kindness.
2 likesMichelle Knight also was lured with puppies
0 likes@Senpai ThatFriendzonesyou I know I've seen those documents on a livestream. The Finders could've been a counter intelligence asset that went rouge and the CIA were so embarrassed they covered it up.
1 like@Sir Dankleberry It's a possibility, which raises more questions like: how many other assets went rouge?
3 likesAnother possibility is that the CIA was infiltrated by saboteurs who were sabotaging it.
Regardless of the cause, what is very clear is that the CIA needs to be investigated by congress again like the were last time with Senator Rockefeller.
kids love puppies
0 likesCarol Ann you were bright enough to get away from him. That's all that was needed. I remember being in school in the early 80's and they made us watch a video of different scenarios where people would try to abduct kids. Puppy excuse was one. Other excuses that were plausible to a kid were presented but done so by different people. It wasn't just the stereotypes but younger women, younger men, older men, older women so we would understand that anyone can have bad intention. Probably solidified my fear that no one can be trusted, ever, but I'm alive.
0 likesI read a comment saying the girl that lured her off was a friend of her moms. That is probably why she looked so casual walking next to her. So š¢.
0 likesQueen Of Swords good. The part someone else mentioned in the comments was the same thing my mom drilled into my head...If an adult asks you for help instead of asking another adult, they don't have good motives.
0 likes@Sir Dankleberry me too! Well actually I grew up in the 80s and was in high school from 90 to 94. I was riding my bike to a friend's house once when i was in elementary school. Unfortunately my back tire went flat, so i was walking with my bike. This man had driven by me slowly a few times. It may have been more, but I noticed him twice. On the third time he stopped and was asking me if i could help him find his dentist (?) That was a really odd request. But like you, growing up with all the stranger danger commercials and talks at school, I ran away from him. I was clearly scared because other people who drove by ended up calling the police when they got some where with a phone to report that a young girl was running and looking back a lot. The cops came and took me to my friends and then called my parents. I didn't really understand just how scary this situation was until I was older.
1 likeAlmost happened to me as a kid but I got lucky and my mom saw this stranger talking to me and ran over.
0 likesYes, Iāve seen this. The parents stood back saying āoh, my child would never go with a stranger. We have made sure of that, they wonāt do itā...and then they send out the guy with the āwanna see my puppyā tactic and EVERY kid went right along with them. The parents were shocked.
2 likesBerry Tears My god your parents are smart.
0 likesalgo We really donāt know how many serial killers are out there still. Sadly as forensics has gotten more sophisticated so have the killers and rapists.
0 likes@Stop the Philosophical Zombies haha thank you I'm sure they would have appreciated that!
0 likesWhen I was 8 or 9 I was playing outside and a man asked me to look for his lost puppy.. I ran back inside my apartment terrified.. I am glad my mom said the same to me.
0 likesI am from the area this horrific crime occurred. Apparently a week or so before the abduction, Toriās mother had a brief meeting at Terri-Lynnās house to discuss dog breeding with Terri-Lynnās mother. Terri was in the room as the discussion took place. Tori had also tagged along with her mom, so would have seen Terri Lynn talking about dogs with her mother. The police believe this was actually one of the reasons tori followed her: a result of the previous brief encounter and the excuse of the dogs.
0 likes@Enthie Gavoir And this is a good thing to tell your kids - āGrown ups who really need help will ask other grown ups for help. If they ask kids, theyāre bad and you should NOT help themā.
0 likesHow is it possible for humans to be so evil?
0 likesUnfortunately in Canada we don't have capital punishment . With any luck the prison population can treat him just like he treated Tory . But since he is going to live in prison a while send you care packegs of " Depends " !
0 likesThink that detective could successfully talk over Ellen Degeneres?
0 likesThinking of food while the girls dead face is right in front of him. What a cold hearted, selfish SOB. I wish him nothing but the worst in prison. Rip Angel
0 likesThis is some rarest interrogation footage that's ever been released by any agency. Here we see an interrogator so effective, he actually has developed the skill to interrogate HIMSELF for up to 15 minutes while the suspect naps.
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Lol
1 likeUnderrated
0 likesTotally inappropriate but MOST ON POINT comment in a case like this.
1 likeTf is this tactic?
I hope in jail he get the same treatment he put that Lil girl over and over
0 likesIt comforts me to think he probably got his asshole resized in jail for what he did
0 likesThis one made me physically ill
0 likesThe mugshots at the end: both have soul-less eyes. Thereās just something off.
0 likesāIn reality no food was comingā best part
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Time stamp?
4 likes@Enrique Roldi 46:04
9 likestop ten anime betrayals, the detectives were thinking: know your place trash.
49 likesI actually laughed out loud.
2 likes@Digit Education thank uuu
1 likeSubjective
0 likesbecause the donut was not eaten, otherwise they might buy him something more
1 likeguu
0 likes@Pepe Metallero "I'll get you some food"
3 likes*cuts to red coloring and inner monologue
"Ha, in reality, he will only get hungrier by anticipating the arrival of food"
Anyone know why the video fades from neutral tone to blue tone every few seconds? It can't be just my eyes!?!
0 likesI imagine hell is very much like an interrogation room
0 likesWhere did this guy go??? No uploads in almost a year. . .
0 likesI cant say what I wanna do to him.
0 likes"people assume the worst until they learn the truth" is like the perfect thing to tell a criminal to get him to incriminate himself.
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no shit, maybe thatās why he said it 20 times
16 likesThe truth of what he did, Is the worst thing. What can he say that improves his situation? Best to say nothing.
19 likes@Tomo lmfao
0 likesi have no doot
4 likes@Blue Cheese it plants fear in the guilty person of how they will be treated. it it gives them a clear motive to talk and lock himself into lies or admissions so they dont "assume" the worst (in this case the truth)
13 likes@Blue Cheese how about show remorse? Or at least some empathy? Otherwise you betray yourself as an extremely dangerous psychopath?
5 likes@David Pringuer - If he shows some empathy he is admitting guilt and nailed on for a minimum 25 years behind bars. What is the point ?
4 likesElias.. your genius is showing
0 likes@David Pringuer While he was betraying himself the whole time, I think what you meant to say was portray ;)
1 likeIt's a waste of time building rapport with these maniacs. 90% of these cases are open and shut. these detectives have gotten too crazy with the psychology
0 likesGod how could she do that the little girl calling for her for help so sad that poor little beautiful white girl heart breaking.
0 likesI had to laugh at how bad that composite sketch was
0 likesI almost confessed myself to get this guy to stop talking
0 likesHis style of interrogating has gotta be exhausting for him too, he just non stop talks, that is crazy how heās able to just keep talking like that
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Adderall dude
80 likesItās exhausting for meā¦ and Iām just watching!
139 likesIs it the same dude who interviewed russell williams?
19 likes@wetsaw yes
13 likesHe should stream
49 likesItās a skill for sure.
41 likes@wetsaw The first guy who talks non-stop isn't the one who interrogated Russell Williams, but the second detective is.
26 likesIt's probably about the same as trying to filibuster in terms of skillset
10 likesRight!
1 likeI am a hella talkative bitch, and I felt so tired of that. Not even giving a lecture am I able to talk that much
9 likesReminded me of Will Kassouf playing poker.
1 likethats the tough part of this job i guess.
0 likesSame investigator that got Russel Williams (a very high-ranking canadian military officer) to confess to multiple brutal murders & sexual assaults.
8 likes@Bruno Lombardi I saw that case too lol
0 likesMy theory is that it doesnāt give the person they are interrogating enough time to rethink and think of their argument. If theyāre lying they would need to have some time to think about it, and he doesnāt give them that chance.
6 likesYup
1 like@M.HARUN IQBAL QURASHI just finished watching the part where they explain it in the video lol.
3 likesI was thinking the exact same..
0 likesMy wife taught me that technique 8 years ago
4 likesIt's to keep the suspect from trying to think up a story, it's harder than it looks.
1 likeNot just that but holding back the obvious disgust and inevitable anger these cops must feel. Guaranteed theyād love to put him in a dark room without cameras with a phone book and baton.
1 like@wetsaw Not the first guy(Chris Loan) but the second guy who comes in who confronts him is him(Jim Smyth)
0 likesI can put my house on it that this detective was sniffing coke or some sort of amphetamine because thereās not a chance in hell you speak this constant and consistent for so long. He hardly let that other guy speak. This is a totally different ātechniqueā that Iāve saw compared to others. I canāt say itās just his way of doing things at all, it was really annoying just hearing him talk for the whole 16 mins and 55 seconds. (Yes this is where I paused and had to comment š¤£)
1 likelol you should meet my bestfreind
0 likesI dunno about that... I've got a few work colleagues that can keep this pace for 9 hours each day, easy.
0 likesEndless talker. He must have the happiest wife in Canada.
0 likesIt seems like an old Buddhist chant. He just keeps droning and droning, making the suspect zone out further and further. Some chants are one word, some are huge scripts. He probably doesn't hear himself saying anything anymore, he's just watching their body language.
1 likeHe talks like the side characters in Far Cry 2.
0 likesTalking for a living isnāt exhausting.
1 likeHeās playing a part. Itās like saying an actors job is so exhausting.
The detective is great and enjoys his job but not exhausting.
@Old Ironsides lol heās playing a role? Heās doing his job interrogating his suspect, no one gave him a script:
1 likeoh you know him personally?
It was painful for me to hear too
0 likesits more to annoy the suspect and get them to spill the beans sooner i believe. i couldn't imagine being asked the same questions over and over id break.
0 likeshe's been doing this shit for decades
0 likesCocaine is a hell of a drug
0 likesIt's all part of his technique he's gotta work his way into his head he knows what he is he knows what he's done but he's gotta get Mike to admit it and explain why even though he more than likely already knows why. I watch too much criminal minds y'all ignore me
0 likestalks non stop and dont let suspect talk. no qurstion no answer
0 likes@Genesis but they didnt ask any question and dont let him talk
0 likesexhausting to listen to because itās stupid
0 likesIts pretty easy. If you learn to do it subconsciously its a breeze
0 likes@Tristan Russell Lol yes he should! I would watch it tbhā¦
0 likesHes loving it..good at it..loves his job
0 likesits meant to be exhausting, and to seem like it will never end to the person being interrogated
0 likesI really donāt need a lecture on the way he interrogates lol I know why he does it. All Iām saying is, In comparison to many other cases Iāve seen, this detective talks A LOT and it seemed to accomplish nothing because Michael Rafferty was unfazed and seemed to be a step ahead of his tactics
0 likesMR,"Boohoo wa wa wa"
0 likesDetective,"Okay? Okay? Alright? Right? Okay? Right? Alright?"
God will the guy ever stop taking! Ask a question already!
0 likesYou didn't HAVE to just 'sit with him' detective. You could have also done us ALL a huge favor and saved the community alot of time and money with the mere expense of a common projectile. They make em every day. Problem solved.
0 likesCan we torture before pulling the switch on the electric chair? Please?
1 likeāWhat are you afraid of?ā
2998 likesā*Losing my life!*ā
...says the man that took the life of an 8 year old.
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Sitting there feeling sorry for himself. Absolute failure of a human being, deserves no sympathy.
91 likesCheryl leanne so scary that these personality types are around us at work/school/home, etc.
23 likes@UTBUT Commonly known as simps nowadays... I know it's a joke term but these are those kind of guys. They seem pretty detached imo.
6 likes@Jaren Rivera There is an expectation of gain because they're giving. They aren't paying for absolutely nothing right? they want validation. Nudes, chatting with the person they're donating to. Many of them are obsessive over E-girls instead of having actual interactions with real females. I'd say a few would resemble this guy.
7 likes@GGed_ You do know simps don't only exist over the internet right? And that a lot of simps have been misled by society to think this is what will garner attraction it doesnt make them dangerous attackers wtf? There's a high chance that if the woman doesn't just keep accepting their gifts and etc, and just rejects them theyll just move on. That's the thing you're leaving out when it comes to simps, there isn't a real rejection
8 likes@Jaren Rivera I think you know that i'm not generalizing with every single person who has ever had a simp moment. To make it clear i'm referring to the ones living purely on the internet, usually have some obsession over pornography because their needs are not met, and can be just as obsessive over some of the girls whom they donate/pay to talk to. What you're talking about is guys who did something nice for their crush and got turned down lol.
0 likesPeople who isolate themselves in that manner can become dangerous and it's a common trend to see in offenders with sexual types of offending.
@Jaren Rivera Also i was wrong when i said "like this guy" . I was referring to Stephen McDaniel when i made that comment
0 likes@GGed_ In the case of Stephen mcdaniel that's more believable but still I'm not sure the ability to inflict massive amounts of bodily harm is really tied to the simp phenomenon it could be but I just don't buy it. You have to have something really dark inside of you
0 likes@Jaren Rivera I agree with you, i don't think it's a super strong correlation either but i think it would be a small percentage. More realistically, it would correlate more in the realm of sexual offending rather than these extreme examples of rape/murder.
0 likes@GGed_ That sounds more like a Nice Guy than a Simp I think.
2 likesThe fact he wouldnt be WILLING to lose his fucking life after everything he did just shows his complete lack of care.
1 likeJaren Rivera simps donāt simp it for the women, they simp for the idea of sex that woman can give.
1 likeSo he is correct when saying simps are narcissistic
Yeah but it's okay for him to do what he wants to others. The worse kind of people š”
1 likeI think some of you are confusing simps with incels and "nice" guys.
1 likeDISGUSTING! Absolutely no remorse for how TERRIFIED & in pain that little girl was, before he killed her with a hammer!!!šš¤¬š¤¬š¤¬
0 likesHeās actually afraid for being some BBC love pet in Prison after beating the living shit out of him in his cell
0 likesGGed_ youāre talking about incels not simps. Those things are not mutually exclusive.
0 likesHe's going to get so fucked up in prison, he will wish he could "lose his life".
1 likeNot only took her life but raped her. While both are bad, I think rape of a child is even worse than murder, it's just on another level of sick.
0 likesHe doesnt deserve death
0 likesI applaud these detectives. I'd get too emotional and bully the fuck out of him.
1 like@Kenn please say God with reverence
0 likeswhen little girls have nightmares michael rafferty and terri lyn mcclintic are the faces in those nightmares the faces of monsters
0 likes1:47 ngl this is scary as hell
0 likesI don't think the interrogator has a not confrontational disposition, he's just Canadian
0 likesomg. I miss JCS.
1 likeI worked with the Aunt of this little girl( her dadās sister) . It was absolutely horrible when it happened and everyone at our work banded together to support her and her family. We led out so much hope that she would be found ok. Its so strange to see this case on this channel so many years later š¢ I watch this channel all the time, but itās so different when it hits so close to home.
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Maybe you can help change Canadian law, way too lenient on crime
7 likesIt must be really harrowing in thar case. I really like how this channel treats its content, a lot of true crime media outlets treat the most vile, traumatic acts of human psyche like schoolyard drama. We have to remember at the end of the day this interest can be voyeuristic into the pure suffering of others (as in, the victims).
2 likesN Logan Take a family, add aunts, uncles and cousins. Then add the number of people they work with. You would be surprised how fast you reach over one million people.
1 likeYes, it can't be easy at all. As a fellow Canadian, it still disturbs. Do take care of each other.
1 likeWhy did her mother let her walk home at 8 years old
0 likesA former girlfriend of mine is a cousin of Nicole Morin, who went missing at age 9 and was never found. She was last seen going to the elevator in her building in her swimsuit to go to the pool downstairs. The case has never been solved. It's just unimaginably awful what happens in these situations, and I really admire the work of these professionals who have to deal with this stuff and sit across from these absolute scumbags. Jim Smyth in particular is very impressive. He's the one who got the confession from Russell Williams, the Air Force Colonel and serial sexual predator who murdered his own subordinate and then consoled her parents afterwards. I know it will probably never happen, but I would love to see whoever is responsible for Nicole Morin's disappearance sitting in that chair one day, like this worthless coward.
6 likes@Joseph Dale As an old adage says...'Whoever kills one soul, it is as if he/she had slain mankind entirely'
0 likesThis guy really pisses me off sitting there trying to get pity like poor me. The things he did to that little girl, ain't so tough now are ya. I hope he's someone's girlfriend in jail
0 likesThe interrogators are unrelenting.. itās fascinating.
0 likesthats an amazing police sketch to be honest
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also thats an AMAZING investigator the parallel story with the same details and same first name as an opener?
0 likes3 minutes in and I am red hot with fucking RAGE.
1 likeJim Smyth (the "bad cop" investigator) appears to be able to play either roles. He was the very kind and mild mannered "good cop" in the world famous interrogation of Colonel Russell Williams, getting Williams to confess to the murders, and even had Williams so pacified/comfortable that Williams said that the only person he wanted to deal with was Smyth. And, here, Smyth is the "bad cop" that Rafferty wants nothing to do with.
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I knew it was him!
26 likes@Olly Burhouse he's a legend! Just like JCS himself š
20 likesthis is the same guy ??? stepped up his game
6 likesāit takes all kinds to make the world go roundā
2 likes@Olly Burhouse Same! At first I thought that the the first interrogator was him, but when he walked in and started talking I was like...wait a minute!
10 likesThat's truly some impressive craftsmenship
Thank you for the information about Smyth being the one, who interviewed Russel Williams. He did a great job then and in this one as well.
11 likesPersonally I wouldn't be able to hide my disqust for this creep of a man.
Jim is a legend.
6 likesThe Russell Williams interrogation was amazing to watch
8 likes@Olly Burhouse š i said the same thing and was going to write the same comment then I saw yours
1 likeWow! That was him, wasn't it?
1 likeWow!!! I knew I recognized his voice, he is terrific at his job!!! Both the good cop, and bad cop! šš¼
1 likeIt's like he thinks that if he's sick and throws up he'll get out of school or something..!?
0 likesI woulda confessed just shut that guy up š
0 likesglad this vid is back up.
2 likesWhy did the questions continue after he said he was done.
0 likesBig respect to the detective for staying that calm while telling him the history of mankind. I know it's his job and he's one of the best in the world, but hell, I don't think there could be anyone who talks to this monster like he is a human being. How can you do this to an 8 year old girl and then go ahead and take her life like that. Cruel world
219 likes2:10 the same Agent Jim Smith who interrogated Russel Williams?
0 likesPlease save JCS!
1 likeDetective just canāt stop talking, š¤Ŗ
0 likesMan I know hes guilty he hasnt touched his donut
1 likeI donāt get how someone can take a childās life, disgusting behaviour. This interrogator is a masterpiece in himself.
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Think about all the kids that go missing each year. I wonder if this sh!t is organized crime.
0 likesItās even more disgusting that a great amount of them are never solved. Freaking terrible and makes me sick watching this
0 likesJust imagine how terrified that poor girl was.
0 likesHes shaking and quivering because he said he was sick , I took that as Sick from drugs. Withdrawing. Not so much portraying to be a baby
0 likesLove this channel
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OHHHHHHH GWORLLLL
0 likesOk, given he is an expertā¦ even so.
0 likesāThatās why pencils have erasersā¦ā š
Bro! He murdered an eight year old.
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He's trynna make that piece of human waste think he won't get in as much trouble if he confesses.
3 likes@50:35 finally gives up the weak , pathetic act
0 likesThis just popped up on my home page and for a second I thought JCS has posted and now I'm sad š come back
0 likesI swear I keep thinking this detective sounds like Ricky from trailer park boys
0 likesIsn't that jim smith guy the same guy that interrogated Russell Williams?
0 likesCopper: After you and I finish talking. š
1 likeāWhat are you scared of?ā
6255 likesāLosing my life.ā
Michael, so was Tori.
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Its no use trying to explain that to a psychopath
193 likes@lildicgang trueeeeeee
35 likesWell yea of course heās afraid of losing his life, he knows what he did is super fuckin serious and heās going to be taken to jail and most likely beat to death. People know what itās like for pedophiles in prison. The inmates hate pedophiles and arenāt shy about it. Self preservation is still there to a degree. No empathy for him but still.
95 likesWhat he should've feared is God.
20 likesWhat's your point? He can still be afraid of losing g his life.
3 likes@Leo Whalen I'm just saying it's ironic since he took a life.
15 likesThis is the best comment
1 like@Leo Whalen little bit late huh
3 likesMakes ya blood boil! Him feeling sorry for himself
12 likeshe is just scared of whats coming to him in jail
3 likes@FOXCYBORGNINJA Man, you must be high. I'm jelly, lmfao. Seriously tho, good way of looking at things, a mysterious god who is unknown is pretty much the same as a random god who probably doesn't exist.
5 likesTime stamp?
2 likes@Leo Whalen I don't believe in a god, but if there was one, our free choices would just make us behave like we live in the Matrix. Nobody would do any wrong if they knew that it was undeniable, and an omni-present, time and space bending being could just delete you. Free will is what makes us human, but how we handle it is also up to humans. Sometimes it works and sometimes its not enough.
1 likehe's not going to be safe in prison. the detective couldn't have heard a lot worse than this
0 likes@Diana H as he should.
0 likesshe lost her life and her dignity, he deserves every harsh thing coming to him.
2 likes@xTheReapersSpawn You mean this human construct of a supreme being possessing higher morality and greater knowledge, that we deluded ourselves into thinking is beyond our comprehension? HA!
4 likesā@Indigo Fenrir Prove it either way, then get back to me. I have no skin in the game.
3 likes@Leo Whalen The only answer I have is, is not an atheist a god unto himself? Therefore if you are ever in a position of lower power in a life threatening situation, should you not fear those who hold power over you? (Agnostic btw.)
0 likes@xTheReapersSpawn This "god" we call, is a mass of misunderstanding in part of our ignorance. We fear the unknown and the unexpected, and thus to comfort ourselves we've created this being whom we label the cause for inexplicable effects as a coping mechanism. In short, we made a god because we don't know a lot of things and we don't like that.
7 likesWhat we call divine intervention is simply coincidence. What we call miracles are simply causalities we've yet to comprehend. What we call commandments are simply common rules of preservation of society via mutual benefit. Whatever god you choose to believe in, is your personal set of beliefs adjusted to conform with like-minded individuals. There is no god; there are only ideals. That's why we have holy wars, which are just arguments with extra steps.
I think that's a good idea.
0 likes@Leo Whalen good.
0 likes@Push Forward big difference from god helping people get hair cuts and god helping people from being murdered and raped.
4 likesWhat an awkward comment
0 likesikr, dude had the nerve to cry.
1 likehe should scared of a much worse fateš¤£š¤£
0 likes@That editor hush 30:42
0 likes@Push Forward if you don't care then why are you still replying to me.
0 likes@Leo Whalen ^This^
0 likesOne of the many reasons why I don't follow a deity...
Could there be a worse coward than heā¦ monstrous!
0 likes@lildicgang he's not a psychopath by any means, he's clearly not "cunning manipulative" and he clearly regrets what he's done. I genuinely think his messed up sexual urges got the better of him and he abducted the child and, like the detective said, went "oh shit, we can't have witnesses" and it was all in the heat of the moment.
0 likesNot to say it won't happen again or that he isn't a truely terrible person who deserves everything he gets in this video, but to say he at least isn't a psychopath
@Alphacide_ this philosophy is fine until you consider people are products of their experiences and genetics. Do we really have free will? Did every choice a person made really have a chance to go the other way? Many scientists would answer, no. What does THAT say about God?
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0 likesI really loathe the back and forth comment bickering š¾ match...
"You want me to tell you things I didn't do so I can get locked up"
0 likes@amp def and some people are in there for the rest of their life they dont mind killing or beating him they already got the worst thats coming
0 likesHow Canadian , the interrogator has a Tim Horton's coffee on the table .
0 likesIs the last one Jim Smith??? Oh my god!
0 likesThe defendant looks like having harsh opioid withdrawal symptoms...
0 likesthe narrator in the off:
0 likes"but it bothered him a lot"
God, he's pathetic.
200 likesWhen you've done something as horrible as this, you don't get to play the victim and sit there feeling sorry for yourself.
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1 likeāYou donāt know whether to shake, shit, poop.ā Ha.
1 likePeople do this and the only reason theyāre upset is cus they for caught. If he didnāt, I guarantee he would have done it again. More than once.
0 likesWow that lady news anchor at the end reporting from London was not very good at her job lol.
0 likesThis profiler is incredible.
0 likesāSomething as simple as watching child pornography for hours on end. These things happenā omg this detective is crazy good. How tf do you make ^THAT^ sound chill and reassuring??
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He's actually right. If you're exposed to something enough, it becomes normalized in your mind, which can then lead you to do more extreme things than what you're exposed to.
83 likesThis guy is a Canadian legend. He's done a ton of huge cases.
74 likes@Glorious Trump šš¤£š¤
1 like@Glorious Trump These things happen
0 likesHe's supposed to
1 like@Sophia Troanska well... That explains California...
1 like@MatterMotedo you know his name?
3 likes@alissa Jim Smith, OPP Behavioural Sciences Unit
4 likes@MatterMote thank you!
3 likes@MatterMote ah yes the BS unit
0 likes@Unconventional Guitarist except its remarkably effective. Toronto has the best behavioral science unit in the world.
0 likes@TymP321 This made me laugh lmao
0 likes@SonofKalas22 go away
0 likes@Unconventional Guitarist uh... no
0 likesFacts!!!!!!
0 likesJim Smith? Thatās the most generic white cop name Iāve ever heard.
0 likesThis interrogator is a grade-A expert. This guy couldnāt get any bullshit story in his head together because the interrogator is constantly plucking at him.
0 likesLegend has it this officer is still talking
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Lmao š¤£ I looked at the time an noticed he was talking for 29 minutes non stop š š¤£š¤£
0 likes@Dre Locs i was annoyed after him talking for 5 minutes straight, can you imagine sitting there and him talking for 29 straightš¤£
0 likes@Riiichard22 exactly but without barely any pauses as well me and my wife couldnāt stop laughing š
0 likesAs a father to 4 girls this isn't enough. She wanted to see a puppy and instead she had the most scary and traumatic experience right before she was pulled from this world. And instead of spending the next 10 years playing with friends learning about the world around her learning how to drive a car falling in and out of love she was stuck in a hole in the ground by 2 people who had no empathy for her. Life without parole for 25 years is to light. I want this couple to suffer the way she did until they bage for a death that never comes.
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@Lucignolo I know I could always use a great place to store all my thumb tacks.
69 likes@Lucignolo What you describe is what we in the industry call "stoning."
24 likes@Salad McJones what iām describing is a form of punishment that was popular here in italy during medieval times called āgogna pubblicaā which was basically a small wooden structure that immobilized the criminal in a public square.
42 likesThere would also be a plaque underneath where the crimes he committed would be written so that citizen could choose which punishment would be best.
It usually lasted all day and it was a ton of fun for everybody, i miss the good old times
In Canada that is the maximum possible sentence, life without parole does not exist. It does not mean he will be granted parole at 25 years, just that he will be eligible to go before a parole board.
25 likes@Wozo see I understand that's the max. But anyone capable of doing a this to a kid doesn't deserve hope. No matter how gloom it may be I want then as far from it as possible.
39 likes@Lucignolo Think about why that might be. Why are we so soft on these monsters, but so comparatively harsh on hate crimes, theft, and driving violations?
31 likes@TangoAlphaRomeoDelta the moral compass of politician and people in a position of power is completely skewed
17 likes@Lucignolo why dont they do that tho
0 likesDead man walking
3 likesAs a father myself and CSA survivor I hope they don't get death either. I know what it's like to feel like that at age 8.
22 likesā@Lucignolo Well, that guy, did what he did to get some kind of satisfaction. He tortured and killed a person for satisfaction. It doesn't matter how old the person was, doesn't matter if the person was innocent or not. It doesn't matter whether he's got his satisfaction, all that matters is that he tortured and killed a human for satisfaction. I don't see any justification to let anybody do the same, for whatever reason.
11 likesCause letting anyone torture or kill for satisfaction isn't going to do any good for anyone. Nothing good for the murderer, nothing good for the victim's family, nothing good for people involved nor for the society, and definitely nothing good for the victim comes out of this. There's simply no point to it. That's why no civilised country does that.
@Camron Alley i call bs on that, us prisons are cheesecake compared to south america or eastern europe
1 like@Lucignolo I have no doubt that prisons in South America and Eastern Europe are way worse than in the US; that doesnāt mean shit like that doesnāt still happen.
1 likeMill stone.
1 like@Lucignolo CHAPEAU, CALL ME WHEN THEY DO THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A PUNCHING BAG (and a pin cushion perhaps)
1 like@Thespirit Oh I was just comparing between the two kinds of punishment in complete irrelevance to your comment, I apologize if it came off as putting words in your mouth, secondly, that's kind of a personal thing, believing or not believing in inmate justice is quite subjective, that doesn't mean that it's not a form of justice in of itself
1 like@eman elghanam yes it is subjective and that's why I said "I find no solace in inmate justice". As I was attempting to keep it from my prospective. And apologie is excepted my friend.
1 like@Thespirit Im glad it is, nice talking to you, sir (I assumed the title from "father" but please inform me if I've gotten the pronouns confused)
4 likes@Lucignolo I wouldn't call them cheesecake compared to those two. South America has a skewed system of its own, lots of corruption and undermanagement. Eastern Europe isn't that far off from the US. just a different culture of people. The gulag doesn't technically exist anymore. But this isn't about technicalities. Just like guantanimo, perfect prison right? The US system is just as cruel as any other, just more in secret, and much more divided. Racism is a real thing in prison and HAS to be. There is no neutral there. In these other countries its generally just 1 race.
2 likes@eman elghanam no you have me right I do identify as a man. Sir isn't my favorite title as I work for a living. It was good talking to you as well.
3 likes@Trenten S youāre kidding right? There are many tv shows where they film american prisons and i can tell you they are like chessecake compared to most of the world
2 likes@Lucignolo you're kidding me right... please tell me you don't believe everything you see TV....
1 likeIts a show for a reason. Made for entertainment that has to follow strict guidelines. You're not going to see the people raped, beaten, and murdered all the time behind the wire. It aint cheesecake fellow.
@Trenten S I believe they are referring to the living conditions not inmate interactions. If so then what they said is true. But inmate interactions are the same everywhere.
2 likesoh
0 likesdonāt worry heāll face a harsher punishment in prison
0 likesBro they only get 25 years this is bs! It should be life
2 likesI don't know if i can even watch this whole video. I feel sick just thinking about it. Agree with everything you said.
1 likePretty sure most of us decent people would want them to suffer forever, but the system needs to apply a tangible punishment like a life sentence. Sometimes I wish high degree prisoners like this guy would be put to work, something like what they do in China, more or less.
0 likesBeing a father of girls makes this very hard to watch.
3 likes@Arminius Music oh yeah it did. Reminds you know matter how much you wish to protect them from the evil in the world it may not be enough.
1 likeMy girls are between 3 and 16 so I showed this to them as a warning to not trust strangers. No matter how much you wish you could.
@Thespirit stranger danger. And she had it. The moment she saw Michael Rafferty she didnāt care to see that puppy anymore. But she was forced in. Itās a balancing act. Make them scared of strangersā¦ but at the same time donāt give them a complex. Itās very difficult to listen to. Iād love just 5 min in a room alone with this guy.
4 likes@Arminius Music give me 5 minutes and no surgery will correct what I'll destroy.
2 likes@Lucignolo
0 likesThatās barbaricā¦
And If we do that to every criminal whatās the point of law then??
@zozo_2611 did i say to every criminal? I said only for these kind of crimes which are less than 1% of all crimes
1 likeš š š agree!!! @Thespirit
1 likeNo kidding right? As a father myself, it's stuff like this that makes me realize that I may never be what some would consider a truly good Christian. It would take every single ounce of determination and commitment to do the right thing NOT to pull my service weapon out of its holster right there in that room and put one right between the eyes. When you see the lengths he goes too for sympathy is f-ing nauseating. The arrogance and narcissism is truly staggering.
3 likes@Dion St. Michael Don't be so hard on yourself; Jesus killed a fig tree with his mind because it didn't bear fruit - pretty sure he'd understand the service weapon thing.
3 likesLife is often a harsher punishment than death.
0 likes@Jintaro Kensei it's 25 to life not life. I'm pretty sure I was clear that my issue is he has hope. People like that don't deserve hope only anguish.
0 likes@Thespirit I meant life as a state of existence, not as a sentence.
0 likes@Lucignolo I'd rather be done with it in a week instead of slowly decaying in a cell over decades
0 likes@Jintaro Kensei youād change your mind as soon as the pliers touch your fingerā¦.trust me,
0 likesYouāre clearly never been hurt badly in your life to say something that stupid
@Lucignolo I think it's you who's clueless.
0 likesi dont think they will get paroled at all rotting in prison is not to be taken lightly , it could make you wish for death
0 likes@xtension xward it's not about if or will it's about hope .
0 likes@Thespirit what do you mean ?
2 likesdo you know how it feels to wait 25 years in a cell just to be told no everytime you have a parole meeting
i think you underestimate the mental state of people sentenced to life in prison
@xtension xward do you know how it feels to wait 25 years in a cell for a parole hearing? Yeah I highly doubt it. If you answer yes then your either lying or are sympathetic to people like this. I'd much rather know their is no chance that they will get a chance to do it again. So tell me why you think having a chance to get out in 25 is OK in your book.
0 likes@Thespirit i dont care what you much rather .. deal with it !
2 likesthere is a reason people like you dont get to decide things like this .
@xtension xward so sympathetic it is.
0 likes@Thespirit you are pushing your anger not sympathy .. nothing wrong with anger there is just healthy anger and then there is anger related with your personal issues ...
2 likes@xtension xward all anger is personal. If the issue doesn't hit you personally then it wouldn't anger you. This does anger me and no it's not unhealthy. It's actually a normal response to this topic. The abnormal response is that of impartial to this subject. Even lawyers have a difficult time upholding their responsibilities of defending someone like this. So again you go ahead and think what you will. I'm under no illusion as to my anger on this issue.
2 likesSeems light in my humble opinion but I'm obviously not Canadian and such a sentence may be the norm there. If this guys is still proclaiming his innocence till this day, he shouldn't get parole eligibility until he's eligible for social security.
1 like@xtension xward its funny you jump to the emotional exaggeration and not the root. All I truly asked for is to remove their hope. As in life without the possibility of parole.
0 likes@Thespirit " All I truly asked for is to remove their hope" that line would never come out of a person who isnt an extremist
2 likesyou completely miss the point of prison .. its not for people like you to scratch the itch of their psychotic sense of justice .
the purpose of prison and jail is to punish and prevent things like that from happening . i dont think that any psychopath would go like : oh its not without parole so im cool with 25 years of jail ...
Good thing you arent a judge.
1 like@Althea paxton he will get life, but in Canada we don't have an open ended sentence like the USA. He will be eligible for parole in 25 years, but chances are pretty excellent he will never get parole
1 likeWhat if I told you there are people in Government positions of power doing this to children regularly who you probably voted for either directly or indirectly at some stage in your life?
0 likes@John Danher
1 like1) Your comment is borderline off topic.
2) How do you vote indirectly?
3) I'm not surprised that people in politics have done things close to this.
4) No I've never voted anyone in office. None of them I would trust with my kids so how could I trust them with my country.
@Mikoto I fully approve of this! You've got my vote.
0 likesI thought it was life in prison without parole??
0 likes@Kim Diez it's life in prison without parole for 25 years. Or in not say many words 25 to life.
1 like@Thespirit OH I didnt understand that, thanks.
1 likeTotally agree. We pay millions just to convict and in prison them. How about total reenactment of the horror the little girl endured, and save the money? Win/win.
0 likesExactly ššš
1 likeIf it isn't okay for a child to suffer the way she did, then how is it okay for anyone else to?
1 like@Captain Price treat others the way you wish to be treated! They asked for it! They set the ground for their own punishment. No one forced them to make the decisions they made. No one needs to suffer! no one, but the ones that find pleasure in destroying innocents.
0 likesAmenš
0 likesThis video made me cry and this comment made me cry all over again. I agree, nothing is enough punishment for this.
1 like@Arminius Music Please tell me that woman got a life sentence as well.
0 likes@Emma Gatewood 57:16 tells you the verdict of both of them. 25 to life
0 likes@Thespirit Thank you. In a way, she is almost more vile than he is. Hope the parole board does the right thing in 25 years, for the sake of everyone who is still alive on earth by then.
1 likeItās Canada, what did you expect?
0 likesYes. Agreed. If it were my choice they'd be so afraid of the punishment that they'd never think of harming her
1 likeYour comment here made me cry, world is so full of cruel people.
1 like@jashna kapadia no the world if full of good people. Just a handful of them are beyond saving in my eyes. I'd like to believe the majority are great at heart and only wish to better their lives and others.
0 likesyeah , me to however dont worry . These 2 arent ever going 2 b released or paroled .
1 likeFacts
1 likeYour comment brought a tear to my eye, Dad. Hope your fam is doing well and I could not possibly agree with you more.
0 likesAmsterdam
0 likesOld School
4 horses, pull them apart,
Give me the whip, to signal the horses
AND I WILL SLEEP REAL WELL
This guy makes me absolutely sick to my stomach
1 like@Karol Pasiut I understand your point. Of course we canāt go torturing people for any crime, whether as part of state sanctioned punishment or by people pursuing extrajudicial retribution. But letās say that a vigilante did get ahold of a guy like this, whether in prison or on the street, and hurt him really bad and murdered him to make him suffer for raping and murdering a little girl. I still wouldnāt judge that personās actions as being just as morally reprehensible as the actions of the person he was trying to punish. They might both be crimes committed for some type of āsatisfactionā, as you argue, but they just arenāt the same.
0 likes@Jesse Barnes this is all understandable. We all want that kind of justice when we hear about those crimes. But that doesnāt mean itās a good idea.
0 likesTorturing someone even if justified, for most people would be a trauma they would regret.
My point is that legal punishment is not a vengance and it shouldnāt be. Itās designed to minimize crime and on the same time allow criminals to resocialize if possible.
More cruel punishment wonāt deter criminals. If you do something despite the possibility of live inprisonment - you probably would do it no matter what, hoping of getting away or not thinking about consequences at all.
Thatās my point in a nutshell.
@Karol Pasiut I donāt disagree with anything that you just said. However, when you said that both crimes would be committed for the satisfaction of the perpetrators, it seemed that you were equating them, at least in some ways. I was simply making the point that, though both crimes might for good reason be unacceptable in our society, the one can still be justifiably be considered worse, morally.
0 likesWanting THAT makes you just as fucked up as the criminals. You would take pleasure in someone else's suffering, suffering for YOUR PLEASURE. Tell me how you're different from the killer? He did the same. He was ok with that girl suffering for the sake of his pleasure. You are the same.
0 likes@vee kay the difference is she didn't want to hurt anyone. And until he did it neither did I. He made his decision based on his own pleasures. I'm just returning in kind.
0 likes@vee kay wanting to see someone suffer for having caused intense pain for others is not as fucked up as wanting to cause innocent people that intense pain in the first place. Itās just not. Wanting to see someone thoroughly punished, even badly hurt, for evil things that the person has done does not make you just as evil. It just doesnāt. You can take moral issue with people acting on this impulse, and you can certainly argue that our justice system shouldnāt operate that way, but theyāre just not the same. One desire comes from a desperate need to see the world set right, and the other comes from far more evil instincts and impulses. In one situation, thereās the desire to see someone suffer precisely because the person being hurt is guilty. In the other, thereās the desire to see someone suffer precisely because the person being hurt is innocent and vulnerable. Those are just not the same thing.
1 like@TangoAlphaRomeoDelta because the police system is about protecting property
0 likesIf this happened to one of my daughters I wouldn't sleep until he was dead
1 likeya okay bud
0 likes@sapwood wood ya ok bud what?
0 likesThey will never come out of prison.
1 likeI remember a story out of Russia a month or so ago. A fatherās āfriendā molested his son or daughter, canāt remember. They found this friend buried with 28 stab wounds to his back. The father was let off and it was ruled a suicide. We should start treating these situations in a similar manner.
0 likesNa that was enough šš Bru had to be in there with other bloodsšš
0 likes@Thespirit it's taking away hope over and over again. I think he deserves it.
0 likes@Jenna Mattern yes remove hope from those who've removed from innocents.
0 likes@Althea paxton 25 years is a life sentence in Canada... you can get concurrent and consecutive sentences as well.
0 likesunfortunately this why the law can't be riddled with emotions. If that was the case we would still have the death penalty in Canada. we would have insane laws like 3 strikes like the good ol USA. it's a terrible situation. now if you want to take the law into your own hands just know the consequences you are about to endure.
0 likes@Rook insane laws like three strikes? So you believe repeat offenders should get the same punishment on their tenth time as they did on their first? As Albert Einstein said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result". We are in a world governed by emotions. Fear, Anger, Love or Compassion drive everyone. You attempt to separate them from your decisions but thats fear telling you emotion is wrong. You don't put your hand in fire because you Fear the pain. You'll do anything to protect the ones you Love. So if applying stricter and more unorthodox punishment has a better outcome by pressing fear then why not? Because 3 hots and a cot is not a punishment.
0 likesWhat difference does it make if you have 4 daughters? Are you saying that if you didn't have 4 daughter this wouldn't bother you?
0 likes@nemonucliosis no, it's not that it wouldn't bother me. Just that it maybe contributing to the level of emotional investment.
0 likes@Thespirit Oh I see, so if you didn't have daughters you'd be like, damn sucks to be you bro....where's those sprinkles for my latte?
0 likes@nemonucliosis what? Bro put down the drama tea.
0 likes@Thespirit Nah, bro. liberalism!!!!
0 likes@nemonucliosis what does liberalism have to do with you fishing for drama?
0 likes@nemonucliosis smh sure bud
0 likes@Thespirit "smh" good one bro
0 likes@nemonucliosis what did you expect after your non sequitur.
0 likes@Thespirit try critical thinking, may benefit your pleb mind
0 likes@nemonucliosis not only do you throw a non sequitur into a conversation no one is having with you; But you then need to use ad hominem attacks to feel big about yourself. Like I said before you only want drama.
0 likes@Thespirit uh huh
0 likes@Rook well thatās lame it shouldnāt be a life sentence unless they actually spend life in prison
0 likesāThatās why pencils have erasers, we all make mistakesā the way the detective downplays the horrible crime that was committed is incredible
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You must not have watched the video
108 likes@venger eventually they realised Mike wasnāt gonna speak and just unloaded. 53:48 āyou are a sick fuck Michaelā
195 likes@harry nac But it could help an innocent person not get manipulated by the police.
67 likes@untitled5 That's a great point š
11 likesIt's a con, you do realize that right?
20 likes@Conor Dwyer oh thought he said fuck. Only in Canada would they say puppy instead of fuck šš
33 likes@Y. Tho yeah haha
3 likes@harry nac I can promise you criminals are not watching interrogation videos
35 likes@harry nac My man I swear to you that no MINIMALLY intelligent criminal will talk to the police instead of calling a lawyer
10 likes@Y. Tho "you are a sick fuck Michael" he said in a delicate and loving voice
12 likes@harry nac these police tricks are not confidential information. And if you watch the JCS Stephanie Lazarus video you can see that guilty people who know the tricks still cant fake it. If you're guilty then it does not matter if you watched some yt videos beforehand
38 likesAnyone criminal could learn about criminal psychology tactics if they wanted to, they don't need this channel
12 likes@vengerĀ you're not wrong but the contrast between the horrifying crime and the detectives "pencils have erasers" bit is borderline comical.
5 likeshe adds:"as simple as that!" T
2 likeshe first 5 minutes of the detective's BS sounds rehearsed. he probably has a script somewhere.
@harry nac You're not wrong, but I'd have to refer you to the Stephanie Lazarus video, where he talks about how yeah, foresight of police interrogation tactics can help someone, as in a suspect is better off knowing them, but no matter how much you do know, being in the interrogation room is quite a different bag. Knowledge of criminal psychology can help us when trying to decipher if someone is guilty or not, so while you're not at all wrong, I'd say that it's not entirely that simple, and the benefits outweigh the drawbacks, at least in my opinion.
4 likes@harry nac you can't trick yourself when it comes to psychology?? you don't know it's happening when it's happening, you nunce
0 likes@Rae "YoU NuNcE" look mommy, I use grown up words š¤
1 like@harry nac What part of "right to remain silent" and "anything you say can and will be used against you" don't you understand? It's pretty straightforward. Don't talk to them. That's all you need to know. Why do you think Casey Anthony got off? She never talked. Ever. Her interrogations are full of her spouting nothing helpful. Making people up. Casting reasonable doubt. She was smarter than people give her credit for.
10 likes@harry nac šš damn shawty you actually thought you did smth
2 likes@Rae whatever
0 likes@harry nac no it doesn't, lmao.
0 likes@harry nac Apparently not according to another video I saw. In the right hands, people can't hide who they are.
1 like@Monztr_M Thanks for your answer :)
0 likes@Flowerpower Thanks for your answer :)
1 like@Y. Tho Apparently it's the vernacular - what sounds like 'puppy' to other English speakers it is fuck in Canadian.
1 like@harry nac absolutely absurd, the kind of people that wouldnt be susceptible to interrogation techniques dont need this video to help them
0 likesThey do that on purpose
0 likes"These things happen"
1 likeIdk how he even got that out with a straight face, but he deserves an Oscar
@harry nac you think so I don't please go away
0 likesYup pretty basic tactic to get into extremely simple minded people like him
0 likes@Rae he did tho he shut you down pretty good lol
0 likes@venger FACTS!!
0 likes@Yung2ts he didnt? š
0 likesOf course he personally didn't think of it this way, but he didn't want to come in to the room swinging the bat so to speak. Gotta do what you can to get the person across from you to open up as much as possible. Pure interrogation techniques.
0 likesA crime like the one committed by Michael Rafferty is written in a permanent marker pen.
0 likes#poetry
I mean it's one of the most common interrogation tactics ever....lol
1 like@harry nac i think under such stress and pressure, even a crimial wouldn't be able to remember and act accordingly to avoid falling into all these "tricks".
0 likesDid you watch the video and the explanation? It was literally written in crayon for you.
1 like@harry nac They also have this video of the cop that falls for exactly the same manipulation she's trained in and ultimately admitting to murder. If you are in this situation and you are guilty you will have a hard time, no matter how smart or educated on police work you are. Ultimately, if guilty, your best option is to just not talk to the police at all anyway and every criminal already knows that.
0 likesIt says at the start of the video why this tactic was used. All police officers use this tactic. He's not downplaying the crime, he is using psychology to get a confession or to at least talk about what happened.
2 likesItās strategic
1 likeThatās kind of the point to make him talkā¦..
1 likedid u watch the video lol
0 likesyou obviously didn't pay attention to the video because he literally explains it.
0 likes@UppyMcDowny you say that but we literally have hundreds of thousands of confessions thanks to these techniques so at what point do you understand that maybe these techniques have a value and place?
0 likes@weEVIL I never said these techniques don't have a value and a place. I was replying to a commenter who said that "these videos are helping criminals learn police interrogation techniques so they can protect themselves against them." Which is dumb because a criminal would never need to study police interrogation techniques because if they were smart they would just refuse to speak with police without an attorney present. Luckily for us, there's plenty of criminals stupid enough to waive those rights and sing like birds.
0 likesI almost laughed. Carl or Lenny in a Simpsons episode says "That's why pencils have erasers" and they're talking about Germany being a nice country and referring to some need-not-mention history. Thought it was very clever then.
0 likesThat's part of what they are supposed to do. There is a ton of psychology involved in interrogation. What's really amazing is that these detective's have to be able to pretty much guess what strategy to use because everyone is different. There are certain general rules of thumb but still they can't interrogate different people the same way. It's a very fascinating profession.
1 like@Sylvael 2002 yes... That's exactly what he's saying
0 likesItās a way of establishing rapport. To gain the suspects trust or enough trust to confide in the detective, they must be able to relate to the detective
0 likesI was drained just listening to that guy saying okay and alright after every sentence
0 likeswhen he talked to not let the dude dissociate i had trouble listening cause it was really distracting
0 likes"I haven't eaten since noon" spoken in a slightly strong tone indicates to me his sense of self importance, it's as if everyone is supposed to be more horrified at the fact he hasn't eaten all day than the crime he committed on a young human being. amazing.
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I know this isn't really related, but there's something engrained in culture about providing food/hospitality for people regardless of circumstances. I'm a nurse and sometimes it feels like half my job is telling people why we can't give them food. Like, 4 hours ago you were literally dead, Cheryl, your snackies can wait until after we know you don't need emergency surgery.
2 likes@Tony Luebke Yeah it's a nourishment thing from a nurses perspective and from an interrogators perspective it's a bargaining chip. i would imagine.
1 like1:46 So scary
0 likesI got 5 daughters this guy makes me sick. Get the needle
1 likeI think if the detective would shut up for 2 seconds the dude might talk. Jeez
0 likesShe's just as guilty in this as he is. No question.
0 likesAnyone else want to hand this guy to Ramsey Bolton from game of thrones?
1 likeDamn after watching this further I'm gonna be sick
0 likesPure evil
0 likesHaha at 46:23 he knew he was Fkād from that point forward.
1 likeIs it just me or did that yellow blanket look and sound like those plastic-y tablecloths you get to keep your table clean when youāre doing painting and stuff?
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It also looked like that to me. Maybe it was an extra large garbage sack.
1 likeWow so many people could have prevented
0 likesI love that he is pouting
1 likehes not sitting next to paul bernardo but pretty damn close
0 likesThe way Michael pretended to get sick and the detective just threw the trash bin at him deserves a fucking award
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Absolutely love it
26 likes@OSSS Boys at least pick a better place to self promote, this is fucked up.
161 likes@KJR why u so disrespectful š
3 likes@KJR u making me sad. Didn't have to hurt me like dat. I'm just doing my job
0 likes@OSSS Boys super distasteful...
55 likes@OSSS Boys Iād hate to have a job that has me lie for a living. There is no way that can be fulfilling. Do yourself a favor and go do something that doesnāt involve dishonesty. You will thank yourself in the end.
30 likes@Michael Johns why should I listen to youšš
1 like@OSSS Boys Advice is exactly that, Advice. Do with it what you like.
21 likesTimestamp??
15 likes@OSSS Boys do it another way bro , that shit is sad your goal is to make money off your channel and use it on the worse video
1 like@Raynoreaggaa okay. And what u want me to do for u??
0 likes@OSSS Boys stop replying
1 like@The Harlequin š
0 likesYou can't get positive attention so you settle for negative attention. You can change and have real intimate meaningful relationships. You dont have to settle. You just have to have the courage to be honest with yourself and others. You just have to be sincerely you. You are not a piece of garbage. There are people who will accept and love the real you.
0 likes@OSSS Boys fair play with the grind but damn
0 likes@Green Right Hand now, what you exactly gives you the impression he's a drug dealer? I am honestly so curious
1 like@OSSS Boys I can't believe you approve of child abuse
2 likes@OSSS Boys the fact that its clear that you arent a child makes this worse. Like, cmon bro.
1 like12 letter last name,!
0 likesWhat else could he have done lol
0 likes@davernrush heās not seriously thinking heās a drug dealer, itās an insult...
0 likes@Corey's Music Thank you for being normal.
1 like@Green Right Hand Of course man. Trying to keep it real
1 likeI think he legitimately was dope sick but that makes it all the better.
0 likesOne should not watch these clips for too long. It is mentally draining and before long your stomach aches. Horrible, just horrible.
0 likesThey will have alot of fun with him in prison :D
0 likesāThereās no dowbt in my mind ok, no dowbtā
1 like> Although well executed, was not successful on this occasion
0 likesTheir performance was a bit too scripted imo, they came across as actors and not investigators, but I'm viewing it from a comfortable position.
Honestly, punishment for crimes like this should be 15 minutes alone in a locked room with the poor girls father and whatever happens happens.
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yup
22 likesGive em an hour
266 likesAnd the mom
190 likesHalf hour at least, and weapons are allowed
130 likes@antpaste too quick, gotta let them suffer
103 likesCompletely agree
7 likesYESSSSSS
7 likesI see you're a man of honour as well.
29 likesšÆ
6 likesA lifetime in jail as a kid killer is way worst than what a father could do in 15 mins
91 likesnormally convicted for rape or child abuse are guaranteed to get hell in jail so 15 minutes with the father is going to seem like heaven
40 likesYes 100 percent
1 likeI wouldnt even need 30 seconds
9 likes@Vachagan Balayan probably not hell other than being locked up.. no one from gp would ever be able to touch this guy he is in protective custody, as are most of these sickos
6 likesYes!!
1 likeWhat if the father loses the fight?
11 likesTowards the end of the video around 53 mins (but about 3:20:xx according to the interrogation camera) the detective remarks the interrogation has only just lasted about as long as the abduction/sexual assault/murder. I say give him the full amount of time and allow any other interested parties a fair chance at him when dad needs a breather.
6 likesWhat if he kicked the fathers ass?
6 likesInstead of the "Death Penalty," call it the "Dad Penalty."
17 likes@jim jimmy no they don't.
0 likes@Anonymous Anonymous exactly what if they want to do a tag team!
0 likesAnd then what? Live with a murder on your mind on top of your lost child?
15 likesI don't know man, I'm not sure that would bring closure.
Even killing the man won't bring back your kid...
The best thing you can do is make sure this never happens.
@Valerie W for what?
0 likesIkr
0 likesand then after that they get life behind bars....that would be fair
0 likesI'm all for that
0 likes@Farhang Emamifar there would be no after that for them š
1 likeAnd the dad gets his choice of 5 weapons
2 likesThe mom too, an angry mother could do some satisfying damage
4 likes@J agreed
0 likes@Vachagan Balayan I went to jail for sexual assault on a minor and nothing happened to me. I did 6 months.
1 likeSociety has to be better than the individual.
0 likesBut I do agree with you
Give me 5 minutes
0 likesNo
0 likesA lot of ppl canāt fight bruh
0 likesImagine losing to the guy who raped and killed your daughter tho... not the chance everybody can take
0 likesGive them as long as they feel necessary
1 likeGuys, justice needs to be civil, even if the crime is anything but. Even brutal murderers should be treated with the level of professionalism that is displayed in this video. The violence of the state should only be to minimize the total violence under the state.
4 likes15 minutes? No it should be as long as the father wants. Days? Weeks? Sure.
0 likesSAW anyone???
0 likesMake the perpetrator suffer the same fate as the victim. An eye for an eye.
0 likesThe only problem is the possibility of doing that to an innocent person by mistake, which is part of why the US constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment.
1 like@notabagel You are right. When you beat and shame people, you create real monsters. Some people who commit these crimes are seriously mentally ill, and even if they are sane and just evil, beating them ill only teach them how to be violent in daily life. Compassion and education have lead to recidivism lower than 30% in some european countries such as Norway, even for repeat high ranking offenders, but in places like the US where recidivism is often very high, like 70%, prisoners are beaten, shamed, raped by other prisoners, and treated like animals. The difference is astounding.
1 likeIf this was my child this man would never have made it to court. People would still be finding pieces of him across the country
2 likesfair enough
0 likesThem chained up, the father and mother picking from a lil arsenal of the weapons they used for the murder. If its a hammer, blunt objects, if it was a firearm, a couple of guns
0 likesAnd so on
put the guy in handcuffs prior
0 likesI can never stoop that low, don't have it in me. Put him in prison and be done with it. A lot of you guys need help.
2 likes@Š„ŃŃŃŠ±ŠµŠŗ ŃŠ¼ŠµŃŠµŃŃ is it recidivism or have they just learned not to get caught?
0 likesI personally don't understand why it seems like these sick freaks have more rights than the helpless babies they target. Imo personally I think there are enough humans on this planet already, It should be about protecting the children, they deserve better.
2 likesFuck yes!!!
0 likesNot dad ...the mom ..
0 likes@Kit Culver they have rights because you have rights. Even if they are monsters, they deserve to be treated to a fair trial etc. Its not about having more rights than anyone else, it's about everyone having the same rights. Its deplorable what this person has done, but they are a person all the same and deserve to be sentenced just like you would want to be treated and sentenced for a crime. Vigilante justice only works in the comic books. Think about your rights if you committed a crime, would you want those waived so whomever you wronged could "punish" you? We have a justice system for that exact reason. Yes, it seems to protect monsters, but it also protects us when we are a part of it
0 likes@antpaste *encouraged
0 likesBut yeah, I've often thought the same thing. They should allow everyone who loved the victim, to hit, punch, bite, etc. The monster, at least 1 time. Then, IF they survive that, live out the rest of their days in solitary, or pay one of the most violent, life term inmates to do the exact same thing to the monster, as it did to the victim.
0 likes@notabagel honestly, I agree with you. It really is better that that doesn't happen. But sometimes, (especially after watching videos like this one.) its nice to imagine, and make believe, that these horrible people would get what most of the public feels is their REAL due. The price they should really have to pay.
0 likesIn my make believe version, this kind of punishment would only be applicable to child predators, and some violent rapes of adults. (Not all rapes, as there are some sketchy gray areas that are considered, "rape" when really it may have been a misunderstanding. Or whatever.) I don't think that kind of thing should be applied to all law breakers. Just those who have basically thrown out their soul already, by preying on innocent, helpless, and TRUSTING children.
Criminals that rape and abuse and kill children get "Special" treatment in prison. They are beat, raped, and sometimes killed by the other inmates.
0 likesTwo wrongs donāt make a right
0 likes15 minutes????
0 likesboth parents, or the whole family
1 likeLet the father bring some tools, that will help
0 likesThe sad part is that it wouldn't make his father feel better. By killing him he's just as bad as he is.
0 likes@K4inan Not really, one killed an innocent girl, the other would be wiping a guilty man off the face of the earth.
0 likesWell, making another criminal, a warm blooded and justified one, but a criminal non the less, probably won't make things any better...
0 likesWow that guy is goodā¦
0 likesIs anybody noticing that Canada is on a whole different crazy level than the US
0 likes04:09 So this s what human filth looks like!
0 likesTake a shit every time the detective says āokāš
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LOL
0 likesIm literally on the John
1 likeThis detective could literally talk to a brick wall for hours lol
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He's also so good that he could probably get a confession. Lol.
1844 likesHe pretty much did!
398 likesDetective to Brick Wall: hey man, we all get painted sometimes. Iāve seen a yellow brick, red brick, rainbow bricks and I even š© a brick, once. It happens.
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Yeah these interrogation videos all have that in common. The detectives are good at just constantly talking, even if theyāre not saying anything new, even if theyāre just repeating the same sentiments over and over again in different words. Itās so the suspect just gets worn down and gives in and so they suspect doesnāt fall into an easy silence. Itās harder to stay quiet when someone is just constantly badgering you. They have to talk constantly.
408 likes"Okay? Alright?...k."
108 likes@Did I Do That lmao š
9 likesHe could get a confession from said brick wall
56 likesAgreed!!! Soooo annoooyyyinnnggg š
14 likes@Justin 1107 may as well have had a chat with an empty chair
19 likesJim smyth is an absolute legend heās the same guy who got that colonel Russell Williams guy to confess too
49 likesHe has no dÅbt in his mind
29 likesHe could speak to a coffee cup for hours
6 likes@Did I Do That OK that's epic
3 likesThere's no dote in my mind you are right .
7 likes@XZ Seriously, this was annoying as HELL to hear in rapid fire for so long. He must've known it was extremely wearing to listen to and did it on purpose, but as an observer it was still hard!
25 likesFr. Talked so long without that man even responding
7 likesI'm only 27 mins in but I guess this never turns into an interrogation where the guy actually talks
10 likesAll of that is intentional as to not give them room to think. Mental exhaustion is usually the best tool because nobody can keep an act up forever.
15 likesSeriously though whatever that detectives getting paid isn't enough lmaoo. To talk to this little fuck without dehumanizing him like the rest of us let alone providing him comfort and ease in his situation is a paid skill only he has.
26 likes@Did I Do That Lost it at the end. Lmao!
4 likesHeās a sweetheart! Love him and his absolute patient waffling ā¤ļø
0 likesI couldnāt do it!
1 likeGuy never heard of the "Pause Technique".
6 likesHAHAHA literally
0 likesThey also use the tactic of talking and āramblingā so the suspect doesnāt have the chance to think of a lie. If you keep talking with no breaks, you eventually can break them down and theyāre more likely to tell the truth rather than a made up lie
4 likes@Jay Oh, so you watched the video too.
1 likeItās that tim Hortons coffee!
1 likeOmg literally like heās the one pissing me off with this case ššš like stfuuuuu āyour credibilityā¦ credibilityā¦ CREDIBILITYāš¤¦š½āāļø
5 likes@Jay......I bet he said "alright" and "okay" a thousand times!
8 likes@Parrish Jackson......And gained absolutely nothing!!
0 likesHe could talk me to sleep if he wasnāt chipping away my psyche into pieces
2 likesLmaoooo facts
0 likes@Jay it worked. i estimate the time it would take me to crack at 13 min
4 likes@Did I Do That lmfao thanks for that, i laughed out loud
2 likes@Did I Do Thatlol!
2 likesNever want to hear "ok" again omg...
7 likeshe is a genius
0 likes@Parrish Jackson It sounds like it's his job.
0 likes"I know you didn't mean to kidnap this brick, but what we need to do is analyse why you did it, ok? Because the matter of the fact is that you did take that brick and now you do have to pay the consequences for your actions. I've seen many brick walls like you and everyone likes to assume that they took bricks out of pure evilness. But I know that deep down, you're just a brick wall. You didnt mean to take that brick to hurt anyone, you took that brick because you wanted to extend your wall, ok? But what we need to do now is figure out if you will take bricks again. So I'm here to not only find out what brought you to that breaking point, but also to give you a chance to talk about your side of view. People will think the worst until you speak up. They'll think you've taken hundreds of bricks. It's not important that you took a brick, it's important why, ok? Brick walls like you don't belong in prison, but sometimes it's necessary. Anyways,"
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1 like@KC Here I come I just wanted to make sure this comment was made lol
1 likeAnd he'd get that brick wall to talk back! š šš¤£
1 like@Nature is Home excellent stamina to type all that out!
0 likesExhausting to listen to & exhausting to read.
@Justin 1107 He definately did!!!
0 likesGet a confession out of it too
0 likesAin't that the truth?!?!?!?!
1 likehe didnt ask so many questions but just kept talking
2 likesHis interrogations are great asmr šš
1 like@Tuomasd lol lol never thought of it like that.... He could talk the horns off a goat.
1 likeiām sure he can speak to fish
1 like@Jay they are so good at keeping a dead conversation going. like i can barely talk to someone for 10 mins before my brain is trying off
1 like@Did I Do That
2 likesHe crumbled in the end
@Jay *shudder. You could be describing my husband...
1 likeI understand the detective's wife deliberately made herself deaf.
@KC Here I come I think I would confess to anything being interviewed by him. Made me fidget like a bastard after just one minute...
2 likesYou mean the clip of the interrogation of Terri in the beginning?
0 likes@KC Here I comewhat makes him so good? Iāve seen much better on this channel. Detective Smith is much better even.
0 likes@KC Here I come LMFAO. For real. God-Level Interrogation.
0 likes@KC Here I come I legit felt guilty for a crime I didn't even commit, that's how good he was.
0 likes@Did I Do That XD lol
1 like@Chettywap 1 oh this is him? I love this guy!! I would be afraid to say I have a headache if I was married to him haha š
0 likesIts smart though because he's breaking into his mental, putting all of that back on his shoulders, so he can't just break it off and act like it didn't happen. Its bringing it into the front of his mind. Good way to get someone to break or they will hold it in and kill themselves mentally.
0 likesHe just did
1 like@Did I Do That LMAOOOOO
1 likeHe essentially did
0 likesTo each individual brick, separately š
0 likesYa he could... "okay" lmfao š¤£š every time he says okay take a shot bahaha
1 likeI would have admitted to being the iceberg that sank the Titanic if that would have shut him up.
1 likeand then confince the brick wall to move aside
0 likesāNoo dote in my mindā
0 likesMobri thatās the point. Itās meant to be annoying and hard to listen to because by the time heās finished that shit stick is gonna be too mentally exhausted to stand up for himself and try to look innocent.
0 likesOdd as it may be that's what it takes to be a great detective. He's a natural. He was smart and meticulous with assessing behaviour. Compared to detectives I saw that didn't know much and just went ahead with what they thought would work. I remember that case with a stalker murdering a girl in her room, the guys assigned to that case might've caused the suspect to get away with it.
0 likesYeah. Great job done by him to get the suspect broken
0 likes@ Content Confessional lmaoooo
0 likesBring back CAPITAL PUNISHMENT FOR PEOPLE LIKE THIS
0 likes@Chettywap 1 Jim Smyth executed perfect technique, according to his peers. His interrogation of 'Call me Russ' is used for training law enforcement.
0 likesI could too though
0 likesIt claimed in the video it was to prevent dissociation and time to thinkā¦. But I was dissociating all the way through it and zoning out not hearing anything he is rambling on aboutā¦. I am use to narc abuse my abuser used this method to prevent us from thinking
0 likesRaping is bad, mkay? Murder is bad, mkay? Mkay? Mkay.
1 like@Chettywap 1 he obtained Coca cola recepie from Walt Disney
1 like@Did I Do That This made my day. š
1 like@C C lol
0 likes@Chettywap 1 hermolka too!
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0 likes@Jay How does their throat not hurt talking so long
0 likesits amazing, what they do and how much patience they have.
1 likeThat's the ethos that RCMP is using to get them to confess! They talk constantly so they do t give a chance to the criminal to form any thoughts they wear them out so they can give up and confess Shit! I am tired of listening to him myself, can tou imagine what and how this criminal feels? He is going to break down in few minutes!
1 likeI read this before watching and thought you were being a little judgemental. But here I am 33 minutes in and he hasn't stopped talking š šš
0 likes@Chettywap 1 but thatās not the guy from the video is it ? He said his name was Chris Long
0 likeshe basically did!
0 likesThere's purpose to it though
1 likeThe detective sounds like the pig from toy story the perfect psychology audio to open someone you he's a pig but he's got friend in you hahaahha
0 likesIdk which video but this detective was amazing in another case in this channel
0 likes@The Hanging Parsiple Giles Iāve read all the comments up until now and this is by far the best one Iāve read yet. The āfidget like a bastardā part had me rolling š
1 likeHe's a brick wall himself.
0 likesThis guy would make the brick wall admit guilt to murder
0 likesBasically what heās doing now š
0 likesI should stop watching these. They just make me cry and stay up late.
0 likesThey got the man cereal, coffee, and warm blankets????????
1 likeRapeing and killing young children is the absolute worst thing that some1 can do. Lock them up for life, for what? A quick execution by the state, why? The parents/family now have to suffer for the rest of their lives, knowing that their loved one is forever gone and went through absolute hell in their final moments. In my opinion, the parents of the victim should be allowed to personally carry out the execution and by their own preferred method. That is the only thing that could give them any sense of closure, if any at all. That is the one and only true justice for such a disgusting, heinous crime.
1 likeā.. so you and Bernardo can make googly-eyes at each other all day ..ā šš¤®
0 likesāI think youāre a funny manā
588 likesāAnd I think youāre a cold-blooded killerā
these interrogators are quick
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That's when you understand that they really are extreme professionals at listening and comprehending.
6 likesWhat a pathetic excuse this man is, the amount of disgust I have for him.
0 likesClassic Tim Hortons to soften the suspect haha
0 likesIt's funny when "crazy guy " doesn't give anything so instead they roasted him.
0 likesI wonder if the psychologist is bothered by this kind of thing? Does he think Mike is a monster? He's so tight lipped.
0 likesI absolutely love how the second cop was just openly psychologically torturing Rafferty-- he deserved it.
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Might lead to something as well. If he gets pissed off or something really hurts him. And if it doesn't... It's fun š
4 likesCame here to say this, second cop had me literally grinning ear to ear as he waged psychological warfare on this degenerate.
19 likesThat's detective Jim Smyth, watch Russel Williams interrogation video and see how he got a confession
5 likesJim Smyth! Legend!
1 likeThat method of "chipping away at a suspect's psychological stamina" through relentless questioning, psychological manipulation, and the suggestion that "we already know you did it, we have the evidence, just confess already" has seen its fair share of scrutiny. It's a controversial strategy because it could be argued that the suspect has been tricked into confessing under false pretense. Suspects are sometimes near-retard level intelligence and just get bamboozled into giving up their right to an attorney and admitting to everything. Detective Smyth himself has gotten into hot water and had a prosecution fail because of these methods. Don't get me wrong, I think he's great. But I can see how others in law enforcement might disapprove since it hinges on getting someone who hasn't been proven guilty to forego their rights to a fair defense, and may actually result in them being found innocent.
1 like@pCeLobster Good point. I keep thinking of those two cops who basically harassed that asian girl until she ended up convicted for killing her little brother--- which she didn't actually do, and she was eventually released.
1 likeStill, I am glad I know this cop's name now, I want to see more from Jim Smyth.
What in the tarnation is wrong with people? Fix it Jesus I'm sick to my stomach smfh š·
1 likeāYou havenāt touched your doughnut.ā
0 likesthe human urge to just get up an punch this guy is so strong rn
0 likescould they have tried to attack there ego
0 likesI think that the blanket which was given to him, helped him in not cooperating with the interrogation.
359 likesHe curled up in his own space and it made easier to ignore the psychological pressure the first cop was tryna make him go thru
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Agreed
16 likesTrue
7 likesAbhinanda Sengar I think so too
4 likesGreat point
1 likegood thought!
1 likeMakes sense
1 likeTrue
7 likesBut this is Canada, weāre nice, eh
That's why they took it away
0 likesāTrynaā
0 likesYour opinion has been immediately discredited.
@CHlEFFIN ur white arent u
1 likeDoing something like this to anyone is horrible. But to such a young child is a different kind of evil
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Yeah!
2 likesDeath raw sounds to humane in that case
0 likesI did not expect this guy to look & sound he does based on his photo.
0 likesSounds like he would have a boyfriend.
Say ok one more timeā¦say it!
0 likesThat sketch was amazing, I was like nah no one looks like that, then the immediate switch to the actual woman right after, was damn near spot on. Incredible talent those people have
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I heard somewhere (maybe on Jim's channel lol) that in those sketches they really ham up any abnormal facial features. So if the person they're sketching has a slightly larger than normal nose, they give them a huge nose in the sketch, or if they have a small gap in the teeth, they sketch it as a huge gap, and apparently this actually makes the sketch stick in people's minds and has an increased chance of the person being recognized.
35 likesThat's what I was thinking! That has to be the most accurate composite I have seen
4 likesDamn, I thought it sucked lol
9 likesMy exact thoughts!!!
0 likesIf they gave him the tiniest dose of codeine he probably would have been far more chatty.
0 likesHow are they able to continue questioning him if he has a lawyer?
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Miranda rights are in the US, not Canada- our "right to an attorney" regulations are a bit different. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know the specifics that well.
2 likesThis is why we need capital punishment.
0 likesI really do hope some homeboys break 16 of this pathetic excuse for a human beeings ribs over and over and over - fucking vile
0 likesāDo you know what a psychopath is Mike?ā
3411 likesāNo Iāve never met oneā
āWell I met one tonight.ā
Lmao
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5 likesRight you are lol.
7 likesI was looking for this
6 likesSinCityTarantulas 702 Sorry I donāt know how to link up the time slot... but it was perfect. š
4 likesThe Green Dragon JB truuuu š
2 likes50:28
22 likesEternal Resolute lol! Thanks so much! How do you do that?
0 likes@J B Just type in the time. For example 0:01 is one second, 01:00 is one minute, 01:00:00 is one hour and so forth. You have to pause the video and look at the time that you want on the time bar.
19 likesEternal Resolute Thank you SO much!!!! I appreciate it! Feel sort off dumb now haha!
11 likesJake Spicer finally learned how š 50:28
14 likesWhat a pure and helpful conversation. Nice to see instead of everyone freaking out at someone for not knowing something
41 likesShalom No. sociopaths have a slight bit of conscience. Psychopaths have no conscience at all. He had no remorse whatsoever.
5 likes@Not toxic sociopaths have learned behavior, for example, learned to not feel real emotions, learned to enjoy causing pain
5 likesThe last like 5 minutes were just savage. The rest was like... you too easy. Now too hard. Well that won't work. Then the last bit like ohhh damnnnn!!!!
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0 likes@ Jake Spicer lmao I was thinking the same thing. Poor JB. Hes a good man tho
1 like@ Jake Spicer Or girl.....had to add that with all the sensitivity in todays world lol
1 likeAndrew Sallee āŗļøāŗļø
0 likes@J B hey I was just kidding. U made me really laugh out loud. It was funny.
1 likeAndrew Sallee ha okay No worries šš¼āŗļø
0 likesA straight up burn! šššš½šš½
1 likeI will never understand why grown men and women can go and lure a child away and then do the things this guy did. I hold the same feeling about people who take animals and then torture them. When they get caught they usually say they don't know why they did it which just makes me even more angry and frustrated. I would bring back the Brazen Bull method of execution for people like this because they get used to jail after about 4-5 yrs as their expectations diminish greatly and in death they don't suffer anything at all. At least The Brazen Bull would make child murderers think twice.
0 likesIf you close your eyes, the detective sounds like Ricky after grade 10
0 likesChris is a badass!
0 likesThose of you who believe people are good but just make bad choices.....spare me. There is nothing in this man that is good. People are evil, Only God can change that.
0 likesit was so cathartic to see that second guy come in "get rid of your f*ckin security blanket"
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Alice LeFae I literally cheered! Too much coddling of these fucking monsters IMO! š¤Ø
121 likes@N S If theres one thing you should learn from this channel, it's that the police want justice and understand that they need to manipulate the environment and the suspect to gather information and force a confession. The police are being "friendly" because it benefits them (and society). That person interviewing that guy probably thought he was pathetic and a monster from the moment he got the case details. All he cares about is putting that guy behind bars, and if that means acting friendly and subtly manipulating him into confessing, then he will do that.
300 likesif you walk into an interrogation room and treat the person like absolute garbage and you don't have the evidence to back it up, you can potentially let a monster back out on to the streets because they'll identify you as an enemy, ask for a lawyer and then shut the fuck up until he arrives. People forget cops are doing their job when they're being friendly and are less likely to lawyer up and not share their lies.
arqon_ I understand the interrogation dynamics perfectly! I think we were all simply speaking to the fact that this guy who is beyond despicable, was being babied ad nauseam! That isnāt to say we donāt understand why police officers appear friendly, or even empathetic.. it is all understood to be tactics used, to ensure that pos like that guy! Never has the chance to reoffend. My comment was based on that, not to imply that all monsters should all be roughed up had thrown around.
23 likes@N S it's called good cop bad cop for a reason. It's a strategy. And it's also to cover their butts for liability. It's the humane way to engage with a human who committed even a heinous crime. Otherwise every day would turn into fights. But once they give you every last chance, boom.
28 likessecurity blanket lmao š
9 likespaused video at this moment and scrolled down to find the comment I was looking for lmao. What a bomb that detective dropped.
10 likesWhat a guy
3 likes@N S It's fine, what if he turned out to be innocent. You're talking as if the cops already knew that he was guilty. Of course we all know that he is (probably) guilty now due to this video coming out after the verdict.
4 likesAlice LeFae he was literally all of us. šš¼
2 likesWhat minute did that happen?
2 likes@Comfi "the police want justice" and that's why they use the same manipulation tactics on accused they know to be innocent? At the end of the day, all they want is the prestige of knowing their interrogation was so good, it jailed a person.
3 likesThis entire channel is incredibly cathartic
1 like@SKETCHY KOYAYA, you must have cut him deep. He deleted his comment. š³
1 like@changuis jjh 37:07
4 likesIt's two hits one after the other: 1.) the "get rid" and 2.) "start being a man." BAM! That was great!
0 likesloved it
0 likesOh my gosh so satisfying after the other guy was straight faced with him that killer deserves every bad thing said about him by that interrogator
0 likes@N S "I understand the interrogation dynamics perfectly!"
0 likesClearly you don't.
I don't believe in the death penalty. I believe in putting these guys in prison where they're forced to do manual labor jobs that normal people shouldn't risk their lives for with no pay, no privileges, nothing, and they get food they make themselves with scraps from the rest of society since that's what they want to act like. They deserve to never know what good life feels like, and instead should feel like life isn't worth living every. single. day.
0 likesHe is worried about losing his life!
0 likesi couldnt do this job theres no way in hell
1 like25 years? That's all???
0 likesYou know you're in deep shit when a cop tells you you're a smart/good guy
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That seems to be the trend,I hope if I ever get arrested for something they call me a stupid sack of shit cuz then I must be innocent
67 likes@Miss Mcphee I canāt even tell anymore if you guys are messing around or actually hating on each other
0 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likes@Erica Mercado lol cops will say anything regardless of evidence. Just watch the innocent till proven guilty video or the don't talk to the police speech. Also I find it hilarious how serious people have taken my comment.
0 likes@GiacoC yo that's good, so I'm innocent then right? Can I go yet officer? No pleeease don't leave me here another 3 hours with my uneaten donut.
0 likes20 minutes of the interrogation and the detective still haven't stopped talking for a second... So annoying!
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woman moment
0 likesEvery day should be hell on earth for them. š
0 likeslacerations to her liver. Is that from what i think its from?
0 likes19:58 he says you're not built for this shit
0 likesThe energy this detective put in speaking for an hour +, so many words at such a speed, is out of this world.
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I would like to say he had a good sleep after his efforts but I bet the poor detective didnāt
9 likesHis defense lawyer looks like Austin powers
0 likesOur towns never going to be the same
0 likesThis is the mode Canadian interrogation ever
0 likesLet him talk mrs.investigator!!
0 likesi got so much satisfaction when the 2nd detective came in and threw the photos at him, started swearing and showing that no ones going to put up with his silent bullshit
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same detective that performed a masterclass on Colonel Russell Williams. Not someone you want sitting across the table for sure
30 likesfirst detective: "so yknow, mistakes happen, you just need to explain is all"
36 likessecond detective: casually walks in "so heres the photos of that girl you killed."
Awesome. I'll be forwarding til I see the no BS detective come in. Thanks! š
3 likes" keep on keeping it shut!" Canadian rudeness. Like writing 'f word' on a restroom wall.
2 likesāyou havenāt touched yer dohnutā¦ā
3 likesHe's only upset because he got caught
0 likesit would be interesting to see an interrogation between a suspect who actually is innocent but police really thought was guilty bc then you could see the difference in reactions between a guilty and innocent individual.
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JCS Has a video on that, I think it's called innocent until proven guilty or maybe the other way around
1 like@Nosa Itās called guilty until proven innocent. That video made me pissed
0 likesI know this is sad bruh but look at that chicks hair like does she have bangs and braided hair? for that alone she should be locked up. Damn.
0 likesNot so fun fact: Teri Lynn, the woman who lead the girl to the car, had it brought up in court that she microwaved a dog to death when she was a minor.
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@ProneToFacepalm Iām more than willing to bet she has a pretty significant trauma background. Not an excuse just context.
377 likesIst he dog called "doggy boy" by any chance?
545 likes@Gabriel Pal Iām pretty sure thatās the one
46 likes@Gabriel Pal damn teri lynn is jodi confirmed?????
80 likesI thought she was worse than him due to the fact that it was her spinelessness that lead to her luring and abducting the little girl. Where as he has something wrong with him to want to do that. It is spinelessness people that enable systemic evil eg Nazi gas chambers. But if she did that as a child to a dog. She is also a psychopath. She may have instigated the whole situation?
50 likesOh my gosh!!! Wtf!
9 likesShe couldāve been lying to make her self look insane
11 likesWhat the fu
0 likesWhatā-
0 likesWhat the genuinely fuck that is horrifying
10 likesššš w h a t
4 likes@Oli Hallam I wonder where your spine is, when EU Nations let thousands of people drown in Mediterranean Sea. Where is your spine, when the US is excusing missed targeted drone strikes as collateral damage? Where is your spine when Myanmar junta is violently striking down protest against their unlawful putsch, when China throws Uyghurs into internment camps, when Israel forcefully expulses the palestinian people, when in Sudan thousands of children get abducted and forced to become soldiers?
17 likesIt is easy to point fingers on German population and ask: Why didn't they do anything? They knew, they stayed silent, they are guilty. But there are crimes against humanty going on right now, every mayor political power is eigher supporting or at least condoning at least some of those crimes. And noone, you an me included, can claim for themselves: I didn't know. All I can claim is, I feel powerless against this, what about you? And guess what, exactly this feeling is, how gas chambers could have been operated right under the people's eyes.
@MeghanF93 not necessarily. There are straight down psychopaths with loving families and others with extremely heavy context that do not behave like these pos.
9 likes@Samantha108 exactly! I'm w u! It's called pure evil...
1 likeSometimes my paranoid brain is like āone day ur gonna commit a bad crime and go to jail!!!!ā And then Iām like you know what I could literally never do? Microwave a dog
8 likeswas it to dry it?
1 likeMan, after this, Dear Zachary, and Don't F**k with Cats, I'm positive that there are only two types of Canadians; Absolute cold blooded psychopaths, and wonderfully kind upstanding citizens.
4 likes"hey uh... wanna see a puppy?"
0 likes@ProneToFacepalm i agree but i wish we could know the full extent of why this people enjoy this type of evil behavior. It goes beyond the brain in my opinion, is as if they were destined to be that person.
1 like@MeghanF93 NOT. Phsycopaths are born...events and trauma can make them worse of course but they are born incapable of feeling empathy for living beings š as a matter of fact, cruelty towards animals shown at a young age is one of the hallmarks of phsycopathy.
1 like@MeghanF93 or maybe she's just a psychopath. idk there's definitely something wrong with both of them and I'm glad they're locked up forever
1 likeš¶
0 likesHer mom was a stripper and gave her away to her stripper friend. The woman raised her as her own child. Her brother (not blood brother, but they were raised as siblings)says she's in a free range resort prison because she's claiming to be indigenous. He says she is no more indigenous than he is a green alien from Mars. He then went on to Say she deserves death for what she's done.
4 likes@Craig donāt be a crazy vegan pls. I imagine most people just want animals to be treated humanely before being euthanized. Also a lot of people donāt have the money to be vegan or buy meat from farms that treat animals well.
2 likes@Rosie Eevee thankfully some one said it
0 likes@Bondfall 007 Guess you could say that about the whole world , lol.
1 likeWHAT is wrong with people?! Gross
0 likesTurned out not to be true. She said it to make herself look insane.
1 like@William M sub mosquito
1 like@ProneToFacepalm when a man and a woman love each other very much.. but happen to be cousins..
0 likesand here i thought she was a stand up gal
0 likes@Blooper Dooper you dont have to be vegan to see the double standards of some people here.
0 likesShe microvaved a puppy --> "go to hell"
People pay other people to doe a horrible 6 month torture to an animal with the same social and psychological behaviour and capability as a dog. --> "ah well... you know... its tasty, cheap and nutricious and stuff..."
and the second one isnĀ“t even done for satisfying a striking unbelievable strong desire induced by a distorted brain illness. Its just to fulfil a simple nice taste and an easy meal by a person fully concious with a healthy brain.
I am not vegan by myself but this is just applying double standards to not face the behaviour of oneself.
(btw sorry for the bad english, thats not my mothers tongue, and I dont live in an english speaking country)
woah. things like this really make me lose faith in humanity
0 likes@MeghanF93 facts.
0 likes@MeghanF93 pointless context that you're pulling out of thin air
0 likes@Elijah Danielson Florida and Ontario apparently
0 likesDamn... I am watching this now and was wondering to myself "Why did this women decide to help a perve abduct a child? Why what did she get out of it" but it sounds like she had some issues smh
1 like@Oli Hallam they're was only six concentration camps instructed, with the purpose of extermination. Super easy to hide. The camps were modeled as political internment camps to house political extremists. such as like those that America used on the Asian citizens for 5 years during the war or Russia's gulags. The national socialist never had any written documents or plans to exterminate said race and they never openly advocated for the extermination of said race. They did advocate for the deportation, but not extermination. so the public was very oblivious and most of the soldiers were oblivious. there was only a handful of people in that regime that knew about it. you'd have to be very dense to believe that an entire nation just went along with something like that knowingly. Course it's the same as people being oblivious to the Chinese internment camps that house over a million Muslims, which are actually just death camps today or the horrors of the Russian gulags that in truth were death camps for political prisoners during the Soviet Union's regime.
1 like@Oli Hallam China's great leap forward saw the death of 50 million people in 4 years. Russia caused the death of 12 million ukraines with controlled famines in one year in 1933. America dropped two nukes on densely populated cities in Japan killing over 300,000 civilians just so they could test out the nukes. Even though the Soviet Union was already advancing in Japan and securing a surrender. they broadcasted that on the news in American and people celebrated the death of 300,000 innocent civilians. That's evil. That makes the Nazis look like children. Yet most people are oblivious to things like that and they choose not to try it figure out or do anything about it. You don't want to even know, what's going on in present day. most people on this Earth are accessible to horrific things cuz they choose to stay oblivious and ignorant to the truth.
0 likes@ProneToFacepalm a predisposition for psychopathy + trauma, usually inflicted by a family with a predisposition for psychopathy
0 likes@Prinegon Bevaris Most people will always have a hard time admitting to themselves their cheap moral categorizations of others are mostly there to protect their ego, and their silly notions of moral self-righteousness. Nobody wants to think that if they were alive in germany in the late '30s, they would have most likely been nazis, and silently complicit in the holocaust. Nobody wants to think that, if they are alive today, they are complicit in a system of global oppression and violence that would make the nazi look like silly cosplayers
0 likes@Prinegon Bevaris just think if that's wat we know about how things are. Wat about the things we dont know wats going on. A lot more shit goes on then we can even contiplate.
0 likes@John Ocampo I sometimes think that were living are lives on a rollercoaster and were just the passengers strapped to the ride with no getting off or turning in your own direction.
0 likesaint nothing wrong wit dat
0 likesoh-
0 likesApparently the 3 main pillars to serial murder are animal abuse, arson, and bed wetting. Most serial murderers have done these 3 things in their childhood
0 likesI have started crying as soon as I read this and I am still crying. I am so fucking disturbed and angry that I wanna do the same to her...
1 likeThe interogating guy sounds like an italian-american maffia member
0 likesWhat happened to the donut?
3 likesIs that copper who came in at 33:36, good cop bad cop, the same copper who interviewed Colonel Russell Williams? Looks and sounds just like him
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Yes, it is.
1 likeI thought McClintic killed her, not him
0 likesāSeeing you squirm and put u through some of the grief u put that girl in .. and Iām having a good timeā thatās the kind of detective iād like on every case.
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53:30
10 likesHe's my hero!
2 likesI got four minutes in and had to bail out. Too horrible!
1 likeBest bad cop I have ever seen.
0 likeslpm me estoy volviendo adicto a estos videos
0 likes13:07 DAMNNNNN GET HIM!
0 likesHoly shit this guy must practice these long monologues at home, because I just know I would start to stutter and "um" a lot to fill the gaps if I have to communicate with psychopaths. What a legend
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he does say 'um'. It isnt hard to run your mouth
2 likes@Marlow P he does say um, but not as much as most other people would if made to talk non stop without any response. Maybe youre better at this idfk but generally alot of people struggle with talking so much. It takes either talent or effort
6 likes@Lotte yanson the dude def has talent, no arguments there. Russel Williams' interrogation proves this
5 likes@F0X_H0UND thatās why these guys exist. They are from the behavioral bureau and their goal is to learn from these individuals to predict, prevent and stop future criminalities like these.
3 likesHe fills all the gaps with affirmations, "ok" "alright" "you know"
3 likes@Dana Smith start slow, just make a conscious note every time you do it, then try to just not say anything. Embrace the silence. Silence is powerful in a speech. On a side note, instead of um he uses other filler word
0 likes17 years of practice
1 likeIs that one detective Bret the Hitman Hart
0 likes"you havent touched yer donut" is so funny to me im sry
0 likesChris is a stone cold badass
0 likesLove your videos... Elon should buy youtube next, this site needs some more free speech
3 likesI love this guy's content... no intro, no outro, just... the video. Bravo man bravo I'm watching a marathon of your stuff tonight.
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Best channel on YouTube
11 likesI love his voice too
7 likes@A_cup_of_Tae isn't his voice he credits a narrator in the description
1 like@Max Jackson oh thank you I didn't notice
1 likeThen I like the voice of his narrator ~
@A_cup_of_Tae i think we all do
3 likesI don't want to watch her interview. But if anyone did.... did Terry give a reason why she did it?
0 likesāYouāve barely touched your donut and thatās from Timmy H, pal. Thatās the good stuff, ya?ā
0 likesPut this man in general population, since the death penalty is banned in Canada.
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don't worry, prison gangs will probably take care of it quite quickly once they find out what he did
3 likes@zauru192 that is my hope and I know this part is kinda gross, but u know what they do to other men in prison. I hope he gets a taste before the rest.
2 likeswhy did she get the exact same sentence as him? that makes no sense
0 likesI know I'm not the only one who found "What pretending to be Crazy looks like" in his feed and is binge watching this channel
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yesyesyessssssssss
59 likesBro im addicted off that š¤£
72 likesDude this is exactly why Iām here hahahaha
60 likesbruhhh how
18 likesYess.. now I'm binging since yesterday...
37 likesLiterally awake all night watching.
23 likesOh my god, yeah! I guess it hit the algorithm good and we all saw how good this channel's organisation of content was :D
29 likesStarted yesterday and havenāt stopped lol
15 likesBeen binging since Saturday š So glad I got recommended that video..
11 likesThatās why Iām here
5 likes@Brooks Houser same
2 likesthis is exact video that got me finishing this whole channel
8 likesYes. It seems we're all on the same algorithm
3 likeswell you got me
1 likeGot me
1 likeEyy yoo true
1 likeme now xd
1 likeOmg me toooo
1 likeYes yes yesššš
1 likeFound it yesterday and have watched 7 vids already
3 likesYou found my exact story wth?
1 likeSAME
1 likesame and I'm loving it
1 likeYeah exactlyy
1 likeSameee š ššš
1 likeYup!
1 likeFacts
1 likeYes 100% this had been my life for 3 days now
1 likeMhm
1 likeHeard
1 likefor real man!
0 likesI love how even in videos from months ago all of the comments are from, like, hours ago lmao
3 likesME TOO LMAO
1 likeYESSSSS there's not enough videos to satifys my needs it's interesting to see how we act under pressure
3 likespreach
0 likesWell welcome to one of the best youtube channels literally ever. Make sure to turn notifications on, you wont regret it.
3 likesI havenāt stopped, started at 6am this morning and itās currently 6:30 pm
1 likeYouāre not alone
0 likesdude literally me
0 likesWhatttt
0 likesYup
0 likesYup
0 likesEXACTLY what happened actually... spooky š¤Ŗ
0 likesMan, how does YouTube do that.
0 likesThe same thing happened to me.
Same. Hook, line and sinker.
1 likeYup pretty sure thats the one that started this š hole....that was about 30 videos ago
0 likesyup
0 likesYou've caught me.
0 likesYou should subscribe to his patreon if you want more content
2 likesMe too!
0 likesno you are not
0 likesI feel attacked
0 likesIM GLAD IM NOT THE ONLY ONE
1 likeYAS
0 likesBro same lmao
0 likesLiterally me lol
0 likesdamn you sir for being me
0 likesexactly
0 likesThatās exactly what happens to me too, it was a lot more interesting on 2x speed because it cleans up all the empty air that takes up so much time.
0 likesIt was Jodi arias for me now IM binging crazy
0 likeslol fr
0 likesSame
0 likesSame
0 likesMe too
0 likesWhy was it that exact video that popped up on everyoneās feed because same
1 likeYes.
0 likesLmfao you are indeed not alone
0 likesyour a couple of years late for the hype mate but welcome
0 likesI watched it yesterday and I've been hooked ever since š
0 likesLMAO me
0 likesAddicted honestly š¤£
0 likesfrfr
0 likesLMAO yup
0 likesTHIS LITERALLY HAPPENED TO ME
0 likesYes, and I subscribed. I am down the rabbit hole now. šµ
0 likesliterally me
0 likesyup pretty much
0 likesME
0 likesyepppp
0 likesPractically all of us haahaha
0 likesI feel called outš
0 likespls i watched that yesterday and now iām bingingš
0 likeshahaha it's been a few days since that video and i am still watching this channel.
0 likesAre u stalking me
0 likes@MonkeyJazz75 did he start posting to Youtube again? I saw that newest video but did he say he's coming back?
0 likesI CANT STOP !! :( but im also sad cuz almost reached the end :( sadge ;D
1 likeYep Iām on my 5th video, these are addictive and well put together, I wish theyād upload more often though
1 likeWait, was that everyone's first video?
0 likeslol i can't stop
0 likesI am guilty!
0 likesI did that too but with the jeniffer vid a few months ago
0 likesSame af, although I used to follow this channel a year or two ago on another account
0 likessame hereeeeeeeee
0 likesš
0 likesYes
0 likesAs a long time fan of JCS, I'm not that way, but it's awesome that a bunch of people have found the channel! Some of the best content on youtube, and the best in criminal psychoanalysis
1 likeyeeeessss
0 likesThat's how I started and by fuck am I hooked to this YouTube channel
0 likesSame
0 likesSame lmao, I used to watch it a while ago but stopped also a while ago. Then got the crazy video in my feed and was hooked since 3 days ago
0 likesI ran out of videos from this channel getting recommended to me. Now I go to the channel page and scroll down for more videos lol
1 likeexactly hahaha
0 likeslegit exactly what happened
0 likesyep
0 likesItās so funny because a buddy I hadnāt seen in a long time met up with me and it came up randomly that we both had started watching a criminal psychology YouTube channel because of a video we saw about the parkland shooting kid a few days ago lol
0 likesyesss
0 likesyessss
0 likesBruhhh!
0 likesthis scares me, youtube decides what you need to watch
Somehow, this channel went under the radar for me, until I had that very video suggested. Now, I can't stop watching lol.
1 likeSame!! Now Iām lost cuz Iāve binged all his videos and now I want more!
0 likeslol same
0 likesAlso, itās amazing how fast you got so many likes!!!
0 likesYesssd
0 likesfr
1 likeSame lol
0 likeswelcome to the world of re bing watching JCS everytime he make a video. I re watch every video everytime since the first which was the legend of Jeff. Btw Jeff has a yt channel and makes music and pretty touching videos.
3 likesThis is so trueeee!!! Good for the person making these tho I love it.
0 likesYep!š¤£
0 likesMe too!
0 likesSame here, bro
0 likesYup
0 likesFacts lol
0 likesYeah Iāve watched almost all of them in 3 days
0 likesSame
0 likesYeah these videos have had my full attention lately.
0 likesIāve been binging this for a few days now hahaha for that very reason
0 likesLmao same
0 likesLmfaooooo bro on god
0 likesIncredible how that Alg works... spooky
0 likesMe too !
0 likesYou're one of these detectives aren't you? Cuz this is the reason why I'm here hah!
0 likesThe algorithm is a beautiful, mysterious thing
0 likesI thought it was just me
0 likesyep š
0 likesIām so glad that it was pushed! I love this channel
1 likeMake sure to check his patreon, it has some amazing videos, my favorite one is on Alex Minassian, The Patreon is only 1 dollar and no longer advertised as they do not post new videos there anymore.
0 likessure aintššš¼
0 likessame here!. The algorithm works in mysterious ways.
1 likeYes that nick cruz one got me into the videos then the Chris watts one got me really into criminal psychology.
1 likeYup. Watched like 3/4 of his Videos
0 likesYESSSS
0 likesno
0 likestoo accurate
0 likesYes. Sounds almost like a conspiracy. I'm here too for that video and i'm from Argentina, a country that belongs to that not so pretty side of the world, like Cuba, China or Venezuela
0 likes@arise thor I followed that case when it happened, watched the live Court feed daily, even subscribed to the media personnel who reported daily. I skipped the video of her here cause I already saw it all then. Glad they convicted her, she was one heck of a good actress. From a fellow watcher in šØš¦
0 likesThanks YouTube!
0 likesyup exactly 2 days ago š¤£
0 likesShutup...I can quit the binge wheneva I want....I'm not crying, you're crying.....(I need sleep)
0 likessame, 2 videos left for me xD whatched almost all now
0 likesWtf howwww
0 likesWelcome to the squad.
0 likesLmao so true
0 likesLEZ GOOOO
0 likesš³
0 likesyep
0 likesHell yeah!
0 likesšššyup! Watched all of em except 2
0 likesHow did you know that šš
0 likesGuilty, lol!
0 likesActually... thatās exactly how I found this channel š
0 likesI know that you saw this comment on a previous video and posted this comment on this video for likes
0 likesYessssssssss
0 likesUmmm yesā¦.
0 likesI THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE
0 likesLmao howād you know
0 likeshell yeah
0 likesYou're not the one commenting the exactly same thing on every video either...or are you šÆ
0 likeslmao literally
0 likesIt happened to me AND my daughter and weāre in two different states. She called to tell me to look up a new YouTube channel and I said OH!! I have one for you too!! Same one. Weird algorithm but apparently we all wanted to watch this. lol
0 likesOMG, SAME
0 likesGoing through all these videos now.
0 likesExactly!! This channel was suggested to me 3 days ago for the first time and I can't stop watching it!!
0 likesHoww
0 likesOmg, reassess!
0 likes@Kayla Elvin I watched Jennifer's Solution then went on a binge watch for about a month
0 likesLiterally me
0 likesyES, seND HELP, I CAN'T STOP
1 likebless the youtube algorithm
0 likesYes lmao. True true
0 likesHow.did.you.know amazing
0 likesno, no ur not.
0 likesGUILTY.
0 likesšššyup
0 likesThat was the first one I saw too! I've been following him now for only three days, and i LOVE it! I wasn't even into criminology sociology, and now i LOVE it!
0 likesYES I CAN'T STOP
0 likesSameeeee
0 likesSame
0 likesTrue story bro.
0 likesSame! Itās not even the best video on here!
0 likesThank you based Algorithm
0 likesVery acurate . Have watched 8 hrs worth of video
0 likeslol that's exactly what happened to me. I've watched almost all of his videos now.
0 likesThat's what brought me here!
0 likesPeriod
0 likesWtf how...
0 likesBro, Im sad...its a finite channel. Im almost done. Incredible stuff.
0 likesGuilty as charged lol
0 likesfr fr
0 likesyup, this is the last one for me :(
0 likesHahahah! Algorithm was cracked with that video.
0 likesLook up his socialblade. Shits crazy
0 likesYa got me
0 likeswhy is this comment on all of his videos, it's fucking annoying.
0 likesIm a week into my addiction. It's getting worse
0 likesYesss omg
0 likesfking damn it, so it was not just me
0 likesTrue lol
0 likesThis would be a perfect situation for a human oven.
0 likesI feel like this could be Tim's comercial
1 likeI love this channel.....ok?
1 likeI dont like, that the detective says "okey" or "allright" after almost every single sentence.... That sounds so stupid...
0 likesOut of all the videos on this channel I find this one of the hardest to watch. Watching him sit there feeling sorry for himself knowing what he did to that little girl and how afraid she must have been in her last moments makes me sick to my stomach. How that woman lured that little girl away knowing she would be harmed Iāll never understand. An evil and senseless act on an innocent little girl. Every parents worst nightmare.
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you know what made this video arguably harder for me? the interrogator being so understanding and kind. im absolutely fully aware that he had to, to do his interrogating, but its not any less frustrating to see someone even PRETEND to be empathetic toward someone so vile.
21 likes@dotnet I did see the Casey video but never finished it because I just got kinda bored. There's no way she wasn't guilty
3 likesAgreed. The urge to torture this monster mercilessly is so so strong, goodness knows how the detective was able to pretend to have any empathy to lower his guard.
2 likes@Billy Anderson some humans sayed she is not guilty and you eat it.
2 likesOJ is not guilty, too...i know he was framed by the racist Police. (Ironie off)
Since when ppl stoped with critical thinking and beliving all what others saying
@Shi La šš hopefully
0 likes@Scarlet Woman what are you talking about I never said I sided with him being not guilty I said the jury was dumb to say that he was not guilty implying that I think he was guilty
0 likes@Scarlet Woman and who are you to say āstoped with critical thinking and believingā looks like you need some critical grammar skills
1 likeJust thinking that as I read the comments section. I've read and hear some pretty messed up stuff but this case in particular has really disturbed me.
0 likesHere's an update, as it turns out she's the one that killed the little girl....
0 likesWell said.
0 likes21:45 You are not that guy pal, you are not that guy !!
0 likesIs this the first ever instance of someone saying āyouāre not that guyā? /j
0 likesHis voice makes this channel better than any other
0 likesWow so Canadian eh Coffee and donut for a guy like that š¤ surprised there isn't a hockey game playing on a tv too š
0 likesāThatās why pencils have erasers, because we all make mistakesā ~~~ JustDetectiveThingsš
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middleman jesus lmao
197 likes@middleman they need a little handcrafted sign that says that hanging on the wall of the interrogation room. Super cute Nd friendly
568 likesLol
11 likesThis is the same interrogator that got Russell Williams to confess and I believe he said that exact same thing to him as well lol.
234 likesLol! That part made me laugh even though this case is extremely serious. Comic relief
73 likeslmao niiice saving to my pinterest
21 likes@Magnolia Street TV No, he interrogated the girl earlier in the episode.
11 likesKarl B. Actually, Jim Smyth, the interrogator, not only interrogated Col Russell Williams, but also Homolka and Bernardo.
68 likesMagnolia Street TV
28 likesYes, Detective Jim Symth, a legend. The way he psychologically broke Colonel Williams down was brilliant.....one of the best interrogations Iāve ever seen.
Lmfao
2 likesI read this comment in sync with the video ... it was kind of sureal
8 likes10/10
1 like@Magnolia Street TV wasn't the bad cop, jim smyth the one that got the colonal. The one who said the thing about erasers was the good cop.
2 likes@BoB The Movie Guy I'M MAKING LUNCH.
4 likes@Magnolia Street TV I had a hard time watching this but I just saw a few segments of the interrogation. I could only see the top of the detective's head-but his voice and tactics sounded familiar. Now I know why!
4 likesHAHAHAHA
2 likesHAHAHAHAHA
1 likeCanadian detectives be like š
1 likeHe probably heard Lenny say that to Frank Grimes.
1 likeHahahahahaha Iām dying
1 likeDetectives shower thoughts
1 likeāAnd this is why they have points!ā Stabs murderer several times.
6 likesNever stabbed anyone with an eraser.
1 likeLolll
0 likesEXCEPT THIS IS A PEN AND YOU CAN'T ERASE INK BOIIIIIIIIIIII
2 likes@Dry Eyes please say Jesus with reverence
0 likes@la vie en rose Indeed. It was an an astonishing talented interrogation.
1 likePleb Ploob fine
0 likesyea except they can not erase these mistakes
1 likelol, ikr... pens do not have erasers and that is what murder is, permanent
0 likesGay
0 likesL O L
0 likesCanadian saying š¤·š¼āāļø
0 likesLMAO this comment is everything
0 likesLMAO
0 likesGet to the point....other end of the pencil
2 likesahah sound like some girl facebook post. So deep dude
0 likesYou can't erase a Killing
0 likesThe inmates are tattooing this on each other.
1 likeThanks pencilvester!
1 like"cant turn back time and undo whats been done"
0 likesComment of the year!
0 likes@J Heelan ā¦ and Iād be right behind you waiting my turn to beat the sh*t out of him too!!
0 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£ i wish this was said in another context cause sadly a little girl lost her life for this to be said
0 likesI guess he says so, so that the rapist lower his garden.
0 likesLmfaoo
0 likesLmaooo
0 likesIt's the "pencil technique". Genius invention
0 likesIts a detective joke
0 likesHe should have finished with "And you just wrote in Sharpie"
0 likesthat eraser cant erase what happened and whats going to happen. Cant compare spelling mistakes to "mistakenly" sexually assaulting and killing a child. I get the comparison, i get the meaning. i get that they use that tactic to lessen the actual crime they committed so they confess but still. i dont know. this case really gets me. i guess all do that involve children and especially when it ends like this. theres just no excuses, no mistakes, no nothing. this guy deserves honestly for someone to get medieval on his a. but anyways. RIP Tori. you have the same name as my little sister and i just couldnt imagine... im so sorry and rest easy little girl. God, please be wrapping your arms around her to this day comforting her in heaven because now she would be 21 and just getting started on life... this pos took everything. everything from this girl.
0 likes@Magnolia Street TV well Jim Smyth (aka the bad cop in this video) is the one who got him to confess
0 likesPLS WHY IS THIS SO FUNNY
0 likesI only use pensš
0 likes@Adrian Escobar just kyle things š
0 likesYeah I heard that and I'm š³
0 likesHaha š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likes@middleman lol!!
0 likesIf every hamburger were perfect, we wouldn't have hotdogs
0 likesI clicked on the comments a quarter of a way thur and this comment was the First one i saw and weirdly he said it as my eyes read it š
0 likespencilvestor knows erasers, and he's my best friend and definitely not an alien mind worm
0 likesI felt so horrible for how hard I laughed. āØjust detective *tingsāØ
0 likesšš¤”
0 likesSo sad poor lil girl.
0 likesThis guy really pissed me off
1 likeThis isn't a parking ticket :) lol
0 likesTim Hortons for the win
0 likesHe's barely sat down and is already crying and sniffling at the fact he knows he's caught... then does nothing but lament HIS life and not the innocent 8-year old's that HE STOLE. He deserves no sympathy, and how DARE he try to get any.
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Couldn't've said it better myself.
30 likesI just find all sympathy to be gross and attention grabbing behavior. Not even when people try to have sympathy for other people. Sympathy is for the weak. Get your shit together or ask for help. But yeah. He is a terrible terrible man.
18 likesEdit: yāall donāt really get what i was trying to say. I feel like sympathy is useless. I would much rather help someone else with their problems or fix my problems by myself instead of sitting there crying or seeking attention from someone else. I think it is disgusting to get attention like that. Call me a sociopath, I donāt really give a fuck. Just deal with your damn problems or ask for help. Sitting there and crying and using it to get attention isnāt gonna solve your problems.
@kunkkaralhoā¢ Shit has some function as well as it can be soil at times but this person can only be described as a monster
19 likes@Henri Novi You've got a point there ;)
3 likesNo, he said "i'm too sick to talk", acting like he's sick, hence the sniffling, blanket, and tea.
12 likes@Mr. Bubbles He honestly looks like he's going through opiate withdrawal
8 likes@Hayley He was addicted to Oxycontin
7 likesIt is heartbreaking. The poor child does not get to make a mistake and learn from it because of this guy. The child will not get a tea, a doughnut and a blanket all because of him.
6 likeshe has been at this for a bit.
1 likeThe 8 year olds life is pretty irrelevat, they are already dead, so yeah only what happens to him now matters. One life alread lost, hes just waiting to see if his life is lost too, protect what you can.
0 likes@Mr. Bubbles It's heroin withdrawal. I haven't seen this acknowledged anywhere yet, is it really not obvious to everyone? Or perhaps just an unimportant side note.
3 likes@Hayley Literally just commented wondering why no one was mentioning this, lolol.
1 like@A Lex Talionis do you really think everyone is familiar with heroin withdrawal
1 like@A Lex Talionis its kind of a small detail in comparison to why were here dude lol addiction is a normal thing. Killing children isnt.
3 likes@A Lex Talionis also alot dont know what that is
0 likesHe had a mother and a string of women who bought his cry baby act.
2 likes@Poopy poop Poop just say you're a sociopath and go
11 likes@MAX im not a sociopath
0 likesDude it drives me crazy how people that commit these types of crimes will do them and then cry when they get caught! Like how tf are you ābig & badā enough to do something so heinous but then you cry about it when you get caught? No. Disgusting
2 likesIt is interesting how you also say he deserves no sympathy. I was just explaining to my partner that in most of the videos on this channel I somehow had some kind of sympathy for the perpetrator, at least I could pity them somehow... For this guy, I literally have nothing but rage.
1 like@Frederik L. yeah, i noticed that too. It's just so dumb and inmature to think like that. That way of thinking it's gonna get him in trouble for dumb things. Emphaty it's one of the most important emotions and he didn't even bring a logical argument.. is just "i can do whatever i want mom! You don't control my emotions!" I never seen a person under the age of 20 saying that emphaty it's useless. I hope he grow up and change his way of thinking
0 likes@Ekin GeƧikligĆ¼n I donāt think so
0 likes@Frederik L. i just donāt like sympathy at all. Im not a sociopath and i know that but its just my opinion.
0 likesWhile I agree the guy deserves no sympathy, as others have stated he is clearly going through opiate withdrawal.
2 likesRunny nose, cold chills, can't eat because he's probably nauseous... Hell I'm surprised he didn't shit his pants or have to run to the bathroom.
@Hayley destroyed.
0 likes@Poopy poop Poop I agree, empathy is better. Itās basically āletās fix this togetherā, which works much better and strengthens the bond between people as well. Sympathy seems to be mostly selfish, because people want to look like they truly care, when itās only words, not actions.
1 like@smilin bandit do not try and tell me what i am and i am not. I do not have w single ounce if insecurity. I just hate all sympathy.
0 likes@Brkn Cubeik exactly. Idk why people donāt get my point š¤·āāļø
0 likes@Poopy poop Poop the main reason is probably because people donāt like to get the truth āyelledā at them. The phrasing was a little aggressive, but the message was correct.
0 likes@Poopy poop Poop Sympathy and empathy can be great things when deployed properly. But this is not the case where he deserves any.
1 likeBeen working at er psych sorry for spelling, Iām Ukrainian dum dum. Poop I get what you are saying but you also have a good side when you said āget some help.ā There is sympathy that might be useless however you canāt help without sympathy those two are connected. This here does not need sympathy and this case is just that too brutal. Still many things need sympathy unless you are trying to break the person. To say sympathy is always useless
0 likesIs plane wrong and poop unless you saying get help is just you trying to show your not a compliant ass or you do actually have sympathy.
@Diego well, I donāt really like the idea of sympathy anyways. Regardless if you are a terrible piece of trash like this man. I would much rather deal with my own problems or help someone with theirs. Crying about it or feeling sorry for someone doesnāt accomplish anything.
0 likes@Brkn Cubeik true true.
0 likes@Ruslan Tsybulsky well I donāt have āsympathyā fix your problems or just ask for some help when you need it. Donāt sit there and use your despair to grab attention. It isnāt gonna make your problems go away.
0 likesWas he convicted and put to death ?
0 likes@CodeBlue i think both the bf and the girlfriend got life in prison.
0 likesInterrogator: "What is your biggest fear?"
1 likeGuy: "That my life is going to end"
Me: š¤¦
@CodeBlue Canada doesnāt have the death penalty.
0 likes@Poopy poop Poop Damn right
1 like@Susan Waldron So what. Is that an excuse youāre ok with. Wake up
0 likesDon't take this the wrong way, but in the eyes of the law, nobody is innocent. Only guilty or not guilty.
0 likes@John Kordulak No it not an excuse and I 'm definitely not ok with it. I was responding to a comment that said he looked like he was in opiate withdrawal. I don't need to wake up. Perhaps if you'd read the comment I'd responded to you would know that. I'm offended that you think I would make excuses for that piece of garbage.
0 likes@Lordoa that isnāt true. Yt loves shutting down things so sometimes I and many other people go on to yt and find that their account got taken down. It will say things like āauthentication errorā and no videos or comments will show up. It has happened 5 times to me. And so what I donāt like sympathy??? That doesnāt mean i am immature. Being immature is crying about your problems and using it to grab attention. That doesnāt solve anything. Dealing with your problems or asking for help with them is much better than sitting there and crying hoping someone will say āpoor babyā or something like that.
0 likesI wish there were more JCS episodes.
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Unfortunately the chances of there being anymore is close to none due to youtube polices being lame.
0 likesSketch was pretty good
0 likesYet another child lost. Her junkie egg donor didn't bother to report her. It was probably easy to induce her into the car. Junkie kids are doomed. Exposed to a never ending revolving door of random strangers. Usually dumped on grandparents.
0 likeswow the police sketch of the woman is actually really close
0 likes"The reality is no food was coming....this investigator was not about to go out of his way to get a child killer food" COLD AS ICEEEE
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He did tho he brought him tea and a doughnut
25 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
6 likes@Gustav the Great I am sure his doughnut is popular in jail
94 likes@Gustav the Great I'd quote Transformers, but considering the nature of this video...
4 likesBrendan Marx bro thah comment killed me š
8 likes@Cayden B the prison pocket ?
5 likes@Michelle Ruiz They may well have had that in their kitchen. Quite different to buying them lunch/dinner
3 likesHe would probably have to provide food of some sort. If he doesn't any testimony may be tossed if a judge thinks it was made under duress. Is it just, eh probably not, but it's a small thing to do to protect a confession.
1 like@Only_a_Criminal_of_Psychology spit like substance š
0 likesGot himself some food in the meantime
1 like@Michelle Ruiz LOL a PLAIN donut š¤£
0 likesThats cold!
The worst donut out there, probably stale out of the dunkin box
@Michelle Ruiz yeah some unsweetened old tea and a crusty unglazed donut lol he brought him the starter pack for jailhouse food
1 like@mydemonswontleavemealone I'm just saying for the interview they have to do that. In prison they have to focus on reform which they never do and I disagree. But you can't be too lenient with a murderer, do you think they deserve nothing to happen to them and they don't need to be kept off the street for at least the safety of others? And you assume a lot about a person just off of one comment. For someone that considers the variety of mindsets that's a bit hypocritical right?
1 like@mydemonswontleavemealone what have I said that's racist? I'm literally black lol you can check my channel for proof
0 likesDid he just laugh??? Whhyyy!! There was nothing to laugh at
0 likesI hope he gets his
0 likesWhat a sad little boy
0 likesHeās so pathetic. Pissing and whining wrapped in a blanket, cowering in a corner.
0 likesCanāt believe being Canadian is an actual interrogation technique
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"Let's call in the best we have boys!"
84 likesCalls Canada
@Valo ššthatās good
7 likesThe most Canadian interrogation Iāve ever seen
26 likesEh does that mean iām a detective š? Lets try, WHERE DID YOU PUT THE FUCKING DRUGS TELL ME NOW, sorry
11 likes"You've hardly touched your Timmy's, Mike"
33 likesthe good ol "Canadian to U.S." cop technique.. start it friendly, end it viciously
19 likesHe didn't say 'bud' enough. Needs more bud
22 likesššš
1 like@Stef S "Look bud, just finish up your Timmy's, give me a guilty plea for this here ah child murder, and we'll go home n' watch some trailer park boys, how 'bout it eh?"
19 likes@Zachary Hayden I'm surprised also the word 'goof' wasn't used even once
2 likes@Lane Swerve (Hour one of the interview) āYa havenāt even touched yer donut.ā
5 likes(A couple hours later) āSTAEEEEVEN!!!ā
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0 likesP
0 likesPp
0 likesP
0 likesIn Canada we have good cop and good cop
4 likes@Zachary Hayden I'm picturing more Letter Kenney
0 likesWhy is this so surprising? We have a justice system you are aware... I know this was just a bad joke though
0 likesA lot of people would confess just to get the officer to shut up. I can't believe how much he's talking. It's quite a talent, but I guess he's throwing whatever he can at the wall to see if anything sticks, i.e. get a reaction of some kind. Once he gets a reaction, he knows what direction to take it.
1 likeI live for threads like this.
1 like@Zachary Hayden lmao yes
0 likesMichael Rafferty: Snivelaris Maximus.
0 likesThe interrogator says "ok" and "uhhh" wayyyyyy too much.
0 likes26:00 you haven't touched yer donut
2 likesThat composite sketch is horrifying
0 likesMan this shit is heartbreaking. She was late because she went back for moms butterfly earings and was taken because she wanted to see a cute puppy.
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This coward just got dropped to medium security...isn't that nice?
102 likesThis is the reason why im afraid for children
65 likes@Dave Meads same.. I've been given warnings
7 likes@Austin Sellers ur smart dude
11 likesThe way you phrased this breaks my heart even more. Such a sweet child.
25 likes@Austin Sellers That might be taking it a bit too far. This cases gets so much coverage because those things doesn't happen every day. They do happen, but very rarely. Overall, statistically speaking, our time is the safeties it has ever been before.
9 likes@Austin Sellers bruh. this is genius. make that shit for us
8 likes@lynda reyes i'v thought about it, but the technology isn't quite there yet. when ssd battery technology improves this can become a reality.
4 likes@Austin Sellers well wouldnāt it be the same as chips in dogs
2 likesIt is so true... when I was a child I almost got kidnapped because someone asked me if I wanted to see a cute puppy, and trust me, I wanted to see that puppy, but something told me that it was not a good idea and I decided that the puppy was not that important at the moment.
22 likesI'm glad I was able to follow my gut feeling.
A very real butterfly effect
4 likesšŖš Innocent Baby
0 likes@Ms. PiscesBoss well now she's worm food.
1 likeheartbreaking
0 likesThis was one of the hardest ones to watch.
1 likeDid the woman who took her participate in her abduction ?
0 likes@Farting Sharting Pig are u ok?
11 likes@Kellie Smith I don't know... I don't like my job
0 likes@Pine Hawk awe maybe he will find some friends who show their appreciation ā šā
0 likes@Farting Sharting Pig dude I know the feeling, but do not allow a job to make you succumb to barbarism.
3 likes@Doug When I was a kid, I was following an adult because he thought I needed help. I indeed needed help finding my mom, but I didn't know what to do. This was after school just ended, so I didn't think he was a threat when there were all these people here. The moment he told me to get in the car my heart sank. I immediately knew the reality I was in. There was a stranger danger alert a few weeks ago, and it did scare me a bit, but I didn't think much of it after a while.
7 likes10 years later and I'm still quite traumatized by that. I have major issues trusting people, even after knowing them for years. I always have a small feeling they're going to backstab me. Quite literally the only people I trust are my family members, 2 cousins, and 3 friends.
I will never want any children to be scared as I was, nor do I want them to be in that situation. It's so disgustingly unpleasant and dark.
@Kirill Burtsev thank you for being the voice of reason
0 likes@Farting Sharting Pig bad bait is bad
3 likesAya Shayeb yes, she did. She was an equal participant in Toriās abduction. Also, it was Terri-Lynn McClintock that actually killed Tori. She is the one that kicked Tori, breaking her ribs and damaging Toriās internal organs as well as smashing her head with the hammer. I actually live fairly close to Woodstock and Iāve done a lot of research on Toriās case. The details haunt me to this day and I wish I didnāt find out what I didā¦
1 like@Marcus Clark this doesnt happen to children much but rn they gettung indoctinated in school which is what im worried abt
0 likes@Austin Sellers it is, or at least its close, i can think of so many ways this could be done on jewlery or clothes
0 likes@Austin Sellers GOOD IDEA
0 likes:'(
0 likes@Austin Sellers ironically they have watches that do just that, I work with kids and I see a lot of them. They sell watches that look like digital watches that little boys like and they seem like a normal watch but are trackers. Idk what they do for little girls but Iām glad they sell things like those out there. Will definitely get stuff like that for my kids when I have them.
2 likes@lynda reyes those pet "chips" are passive integrated transponders (PIT). They don't allow tracking over distance. They don't contain batteries and only transmit info when in close contact to a PIT reader. Tiny active radio frequency transmitters exist, but they are not rechargeable and their signal strength is fairly low making long distance tracking difficult. GPS tags exist, but the battery tech required for constant real time tracking would mean the device would have to be large and not easily disguised.
2 likesExactly my thoughts. Not that any other circumstance would be less tragic but this somehow makes it more so, if you can conceive my meaning.
1 likePoor little girl šš
0 likesand all she wanted to do is have a party with her friends because her mom redecorated her room. like... i have no words. that's what's going on in an innocent eight year olds life. those are the only years where they should be oblivious to the evils of the world and only focus on friends and school and just being a kid. SO SO heartbreaking. crimes against children is a form of the devil himself.
2 likes@lynda reyes chips in animals just shows the reader the owner's information. and if you don't call to have it updated if you change numbers or move, you're kind of screwed :-/ it is a bit misleading, though, because it does sound like these chips locate the animal based off where they are in real time.
1 like@Austin Sellers They exist! There is one called "tile" which is technically for finding your keys I believe, bit it works just fine as a pendant for jewellery
1 like@Miss Zerglot yea i know tile, great idea. like glue jewelry stones all over it and wear it on a necklace. Im not sure how long the charge lasts though. It really needs to last for a week or 2 between charges or they arent going to work when the kids need it.
0 likesThese two people were so evil. Monsters
0 likes@Farting Sharting Pig nice bait
0 likes@plsdnttkeourgunsš time for some vigilante justice
0 likes@Venom not as nice as the bait they used to lure Tori to her horrifying death ;-) but thanks
0 likes@Austin Sellers its a great idea
0 likes@Pine Hawk I.never allow my kids to be released to anybody. Same as with my father. He was there to pick us up from school, told us never to leave the front of the school until he got there. Most times he was already there when we came out. Luckily for us, our father was the newspaper guy. So he drove a car for the New Haven Register. You really have to be mindful of kids. Because of these predators that are out there.
1 like@Austin Sellers Honestly, just informing your child not to be naive works a lot better than most people would think. Yeah gps trackers would work fine, but they already exist. Preventing the situation from happening in the first place should be the main priority.
1 likeFor real
0 likes@Austin Sellers lo jack, with a small solar cell maybe?
1 like@Mazzy G I pray you are right
1 likePrecious child. So heartbreaking š
0 likesKids are so innocent and itās supposed to be in grown-human nature to take care of them, only for some disgusting bastard to do the worst thing imaginable. What a shame.
0 likes@3DLavaLamp makes my blood boil
0 likesUltimately the girl died because she was sweet. That is horrible.
0 likesI saw her picture and immediately tears started rolling down my face.
1 likeWhat evil person harms a child in any way?
Any decent human being would give their own life protecting a child!
I am sick of this shit!!!
@Minuey Wouldn't the 2 cousins count as family members?
0 likesI've never met one.
1 likeWell I just met one tonight
BURN!!!!
He was upset and cried; I donāt understand why? Was he remorseful about his crime?
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no hes only sad he got caught
1 likeThey need new chairs.
1 likeWhat are the lawyers at the end of this video wearing while speaking to the press? Im from the U.S. so guessing its a Canadian thing?
1 likeāIām sitting in this room for Tory, making you squirm, put you through some grief that you put her through. And Iām having a great timeā
140 likesThis line gave me fckn chills!! Outstanding video once again JCS!
10 minutes in and I'm wondering if this interogator is EVER going to shut up! Not one word spoken by the suspect yet. ....oh wait...."I didn't do anything".....leads to another monologue from the cop. We need to have a discussion! ....yes it does seems the cop is rambling... I'm already exhausted, so I guess It is wearing the guy down.
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This is not a fucking debate, they even explain why he doesnt let him talk. Go watch debates
0 likesThatās the whole bloody point
0 likesParking tickets aren't reality š®
0 likes25 years??? really??
0 likesāYou had sexual relations with Toriā - I mean, thatās one way of wording it.
0 likesIn my 29 years of life I have't said as many words as that investigator said in this interrogation.
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Kody Eldridge lmao!
0 likesKody Eldridge lol
0 likesš
0 likesYesssssššš
0 likesI bet you have
1 like@Connor Jones I bet you're a hoot at parties...
3 likes@Kody Eldridge I am
2 likes@Kody Eldridge lmfao
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0 likesNeither have I and Iām 59 š¬
0 likesmaybe the death sentence aināt so bad
0 likesIt's actually hard to watch this video because the way the monster speaks pisses me off.
0 likesFor anyone who is wondering why there is no comment.
22 likesYouTube did a lot unfair with this account, some videos were taken down. But some are back now and there is no prior comment, a warning is added that says "The following content may contain suicide or self-harm topics." then you have to proceed to watch it.
according to twitter reactions apparently JCS is done with YouTube bc of such issues. another channer named J C S was made and a few videos are uploaded there as well.
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Thank you
2 likesdo you know if and where they will post more videos in the future?
2 likesWoah thatās wild. What a shame. This channel inspired a whole genre.
1 like@Sinti Broes They don't know yet.
1 likeYes. I miss his channels so much. Best true crime and interrogation videos I've ever seen.
2 likes@Marta Hardt can't tell, you can follow their other channel with name "J C S" with spaces and the profile picture of that channel is a cat. It has over 400k subscribers
0 likes@Marta Hardt this channel gave us in depth analysis, so the content is just too good. People make JCS Inspired videos but no one can ever make the videos like JCS made. They are just super interesting
0 likes@Sinti Broes the earlier reply was for you, i mentioned the wrong user.
0 likes@Nomiii That's just a few old Patreon videos. They won't be uploading new content to either channel.
0 likesLoL "you havent even touched your donut" in that fantastic Canadian drawl...... not all heroes wear capes, some of them wear JCPenney suits......
0 likesIt's a relief to me that Terry didn't get a lesser sentence just because she flipped and ratted on this monster.
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Agreed! She is equally as guilty!
133 likesShe only ratted because she was caught.
135 likes@Amanda Lynn yup, which is why I would've been upset if she'd gotten off with a lighter sentence
59 likesGenerally I agree but normally you have to give a credible incentive for people to flip. It was lucky she ratted without a deal.
39 likes@D Lo I'd say 99% as much but yea pretty much
1 likeTerry killed Tori. Thank God she didn't get a lighter sentence because they believed her story initially. They were wrong. I mean ML is guilty too but Terry admitted to doing it.
50 likes@Tony Arcieri Finally someone brave enough to say it loud! Thanks.
17 likesThat's why if your complicit with someone else in a crime, you are both better keeping mouth shut.
6 likesThey are just going to use same facts you give them as evidence once in court.
It's like snitching on yourself in a roundabout way.
@Sudaro Wakatta so brave citing commonly known crime statistics
3 likes@Tony Arcieri So men are men, but women are just "females", eh? Classic.
16 likesAlso there's some good news I think you'll really be interested in: it turns out that women actually don't get lighter sentences than men do. I know, right? I was shocked, too. The truth is that there's a gazillion different factors that go into sentencing a convict, you can't just look at the gender of the convict and nothing else. There's other stuff to consider, like: did they plead out or not? Were they sentenced by a jury, or a judge? Were they a first time offender or a recidivist? Were they a major cog in the criminal operation, or just a small bit player? And so on, you get the idea.
According to the mathematical model, if women were held to the exact same sentencing guidelines as they do for men while ignoring all of those other contextualizing get factors, women would actually serve slightly LESS time in prison than they currently do.
Seriously, this is about the single most exhaustive, comprehensive, and objective breakdown of sentencing data that you're probably ever gonna find. I highly recommend that you read it. I want to add the caveat that this paper is from 2007, but if anything society has leaned even more egalitarian since that time, so it's a bit moot.
https://www.iza.org/publications/dp/2870/do-you-receive-a-lighter-prison-sentence-because-you-are-a-woman-an-economic-analysis-of-federal-criminal-sentencing-guidelines
@Anarkiddie Yes, such ugly times we live in, that common facts are barely legal to mention in United States of Feminism.
1 likeTerry could have literally gotten away with her crimes. Iām glad neither one of them did.
1 like@Splitcookie713 Both of them could. They had nothing on her expect a bad sketch made from potato camera footage. If she didn't admit to it in her interrogation they may both be free to this day. The detective did an excellent job getting her to admit to these crimes. (It was the same one that interrogated Russel Williams)
1 like@Jack Wilson I didnāt realize. I can never make it passed the first 5 minutes of these videos. Crazy to think that people can get away with crimes if they lawyer up right away or if their partner in crime keeps from talking.
0 likes@Amelia Bee Thank you ! I hate when people take a case like this, the rape and murder of a child, as some sort of means to justify their own prejudices. The truth and honesty is appreciated.
0 likesā@Sudaro Wakatta What does your personal problem have to do with, a.) Canada, where this took place, or b.) the actual crime and that everyone involved was sentenced to equal prison terms?
0 likesShe deserves the chair also
1 like@Amelia Bee funny that the study you cited actually DID find that females were given more lenient sentences than men. š¤£š¤£š¤£
8 likesDid you even read it?
@Sudaro Wakatta whereās that? iād love to visit
0 likesAfter what happened with Karla homolka theyāre not making that mistake again. Karla is a free women after killing her sister. Disgusting
0 likesDid you see that she was the one that got him the hammer and when she was younger she had a bunch of stuff on her record including putting a puppy in a microwaveā¦. Disgusting human.
0 likes@Penny The Dog I'm sure she believes the wage gap between men and women is true too.
1 likeThey are both monsters
0 likesNo, but she had since claimed to be "indigenous" and was moved from prison to a "healing lodge", probably let out since COVID, I wouldn't want to know.
0 likesI'm pretty sure their sentences were too light
0 likesyou can't stand by and watch the sexual assault and murder of a child and still be considered a human being.
0 likesShe's not the one who sexually assault and murder the kid. But if she had gotten less sentence y'all would be like "OMG she got less sentence than Rafferty because she is a woman š”š”"
0 likes@MultiChantal22 she later admitted to being the one to use the hammer..
0 likes"You haven't touched your donut"
0 likes"You haven't touched your donut"
0 likes55:25 i hope not in that order
0 likesits funny how he is acting like the interrogator is stupid and dumb for suspecting him and being sarcastic yet he's completely caught.
0 likesThis is some top notch psychological "torture" at its finest. As someone else worded it, a slow psychological water board. SOB deserves every last bit of it.
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literally unfathomable evil. honestly the death penalty is dumb just because it's way too lenient for these insects (to call them animals is frankly insulting to other animals)
14 likesI've got severe adhd, inattentive type, and I've got some bad news for that detective.
2 likesEspecially without my meds, I wouldn't be able to concentrate on more that three words at a time. Ask any of my teachers, I'd never hear a word he said. ššāāļøš¹š”šššŖš oh, my bad. Was someone saying somethiš¦šš®š¼š£šæš§
What is a SOB? Curious
0 likes@Dick Jams unfortunately it generally costs more to kill them, as much as I understand the desire for an eye for an eye.
4 likesLet Gen Pop deal with him. Evil should be taken care with and by Evil
0 likes@Paige Taranto it means son of a b*tch, which that guy definitely is lol
0 likesWhat? I didnāt see anything top notch. Very little was effective. And the perpetrator wasnāt even fighting back hard because 90 percent of the time it was the detectives talking. Ask more questions, especially when he states that āTeri is lying.ā they never once asked him how Teri is lying. They were going for a straight admittance. Start a convo on the details. That should have been the in for a convo.
1 like@johnsolo123456 They already had all the evidence. Court is much quicker and easier with a confession as well. No detective would be so unskilled as to chase that juvenile deflection.
0 likesIs the key to just talk a lot
0 likes@bri š§æ happy Ironically you have just endorsed people just like him.
0 likesso this is the original " youre not that guy pal "
0 likesI shit in an envelope and send it to this guy at Christmas and Thanksgivings.
0 likesHow the f:::k can these monsters kill children?
0 likesLawyer for him, really?? A taxpayers joke.
0 likesFact: if you haven't yet, you're gonna watch every video in this channel.
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š¤£š truth. I did this channel 2 days ago....
180 likesHuge facts.
80 likesI need more videos!
96 likesAlready did...I'm rewatching some of these again. Very compelling.
80 likesThis was my last one. What am I to do now?
63 likesTHERE NEEDS TO BE MORE VIDEOS!! šš
36 likesWell thereās not that many. And thatās weird considering the guy has 7 million subscribers
29 likesAnd when a new video comes out in the future ur gonna rewatch all these videos again
15 likes@Officially HALIM
3 likesNope. Why would I watched the same videos over again. That makes no sense.
@Shannon H. I agree. But a lot of people seem to like to rewatch videos. Weirdos.
2 likes@Shannon H. so itās just me then š
17 likesObviously
2 likesMy new obsession lol
3 likesYep found this channel yesterday and have watched around 5h of videos of cases
6 likes@Officially HALIM I just wish there were MORE videos about MORE freak shows. Itās mind boggling That a channel thatās only been around for two years and only has a handful of videos can have 7 million subscribers.
10 likesYouāre not wrong.
3 likesI'm on my 2nd playthrough
3 likesFuckin fact....
2 likesAlready have, doing it again. It's good to listen to during work
5 likesššš
1 likeHow did you know
@Shannon H. he doesnāt post very often
1 like@Shannon H. sometimes theyāre just entertaining/interesting if you have nothing else to watch
1 likeAnd his voice š„µ
3 likesGot me detective
1 likeNearly there, lol. These are so well done, I can't stop watching. Sometimes youtube recommendations are actually good.
7 likesso true lmaooo this is my last one
2 likesYup
2 likescurrently doing that xD
2 likesgotta let them know hunny š¤£
2 likesThis is the last video for me to complete every videoššš this is a severe factš
1 likeYeap, funny to see how many new comments are here within the last week on a year old video. š¤·š½āāļø Down the rabbit hole we go, I guess.
3 likesI plead the fith
1 likeTruuuuuueeee. I just can't get enough watching.
1 likeIm reporting this comment. Stop stalking me! š
3 likesI'm running out...I don't know what to do with my life when I run out of these videos to watch
2 likesI'm on my way lol I can't stop watching
1 likeYou dare call me out like that! š¦
1 likeDamn you know my psychology, you must of watched all the videos already.
2 likesProbably
1 likefr
1 likeSeriously
1 likeIts not that many, so yeah
1 likebeen since beggining.. only thing i want to be posted more, cant believe he getting these milions of vievs, love it been here since 50k subs
4 likes7 millions subscribers? I am seeing only 3.2 here. Location-based?
3 likesLast one for me š
1 likeTwice!!
1 likeFucking love this channel
1 likeThis is my final video to watch on this channel, I can confirm this. Started after the most recent video showed up as suggested out of nowhere.
1 likeHello, detective!
1 likeššš facts
1 likeCurrently š
1 likeVery true lmao
1 likeCan confirm lol
0 likesnaw fr š¤£
0 likesTHATS WHAT IM DOING RN LMAOO
2 likes@Shannon H. The difference between a good and a bad video is whether you can rewatch it or not. If you can't rewatch it, you obviously don't think it's a good video.
2 likes@Michael A Weirdos? Really? You do realize that that's proof on how good the videos actually are, right? If you choose to rewatch it, it means the video is actually good quality to you. If you're not willing to ever rewatch it, it means you didn't like it.
1 like@Kadrix Thatās not the definition at all. Anybody can rewatch a video, whether they like it or not. You just sit down and watch it. Itās very possible to do that. Your statement made no sense.
0 likes@Kadrix your definitions of good and bad videos make absolutely no sense whatsoever. Many people like bad videos. And lots of people donāt like good videos. Wow.š¤¦š»āāļø
1 likeim on it
1 likeim on it
1 likeTrue
1 likeIām mad this my last one
1 likeTruth! Then later, you'll start to rewatch them lol
1 likeHey guys he has more videos on his Patreon channel, check it out
3 likesSometimes the algorithm really finds a gem lol
1 like@Torje Agersen Vigmostad rewatch them
2 likesall
@Shannon H. 3 million
1 likeWorking on it.
1 likeand once you do so get ready for the kitchen table to start feeling like an interrogation room
2 likesPerhaps.
1 likeYeah you right š
1 likeYou right, I am addicted to this channel
1 likeYup!!! He needs to make more asap!!!
0 likesI did
1 like@Lady Gaga
0 likeshow if its basically dead? lol
Damn. Im at 11 videos streak
2 likesLol getting there friend
0 likes@Officially HALIM facts. i found this channel two years ago when he posted the chris watts series. gonna watch it again.
0 likes@Shannon H. he posts after so long I forget some of the previous videos , so it's like watching for the first time...almost.
1 liketrue, true.
0 likes@Shannon H. no he doesnāt?? He has half of that, and why do u keep saying itās weird he has so many.. he makes good compelling long videos that have millions of views of course heās gonna have lots of subs..
1 like@Shannon H. itās not the fact he has so many itās the fact that they are so interesting and well made
1 likecurrently in the process of doing so
0 likesNo
0 likesProphecy fulfilled šššššš
0 likesWe need moar! IĀ“m almost through all of them.
0 likesguilty...
0 likesMan š¤¦š½āāļøš
0 likesI have............ Twice..
0 likesStop don't tell me something I already did
0 likesFACT.
1 likeSource: I canāt stop.
too late. THis was my last one. I couldn't stop
1 likeI watched one video and now Iām hooked.
0 likesacting like you discovered the channel before everyone else !
2 likesAbsolutely!
0 likeswatching from last 4days š
0 likes@cerebrum excrement š¤£ fr, Iāve watched Jenniferās solutions first and Iāve like binged this channel three times since
0 likesI have never been so offended by a statement I 100% agree with.
0 likes@fishanhunter one two three four fiiif
0 likesMaybe maybe not
0 likesHis patreon is a dollar a month, and there's a bunch more videos on there. You can tell this dude knows his psychology, because he's created millions of addicts lol
2 likesPffft not true... oh wait this is the last video on the channel...
0 likesim on my way lol
0 likesI discovered this channel last night. Iām half way through
0 likes@Shannon H. I mean he doesn't have 7mil, he only have 3.6 lol
0 likesYup, few days after pretending to be crazy on recommended and up the list we go. Fantastic channel all around
0 likes100% all this week
0 likesAnd watch the ones on his Patreon !
0 likesAND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN LOL
0 likesI actually saved this one as one of the last few Iām watching because it disgusts me so much
0 likesAhhh yes the binge watching technique
0 likesI wish there were more :/
0 likesI havenāt watched it all, and I wonāt, because some of the videos are truly upsetting yo me
0 likesYup i can confirm this
0 likesTruth
0 likesOh i have as sad and pissed off as i get from every one of them š
0 likesYa say?! I'm probably getting patreon afterwards just to subscribe to him
2 likes@Shannon H. I think that this channel has a patrons thatās only $1 a month to get more videos and more graphic cases that YouTube would demonetize. Idk tho bc I havenāt paid for it but I did see a few other comments talking about it!
2 likesIm nearly there
0 likesEach vid is more interesting than the last!
0 likesCurrently half wayš¤£
0 likesIndeed. Just so y'all know, there are lots of other channels with a similar (but definitely distinct) style to JCS. One example is Matt Orchard - Crime and Society. True Crime Loser also exists, definitely doesn't have the same style, but is very knowledgable and entertaining to listen to (just not as exciting to watch)
0 likesCan confirm. This was the last video I watched on this channel... so will there be more?
0 likesyes yes.
0 likes@O B yes yes
0 likesCurrently on the grind lol
1 likeAny other channels recommend
1 like@Torje Agersen Vigmostad what do you recommend after this channel
0 likesā@Johnmycole If you like true crime, Kendall Rae is another one of my favorites. She uses revenue to donate to different organizations (currently Her Justice, before that it was Thorn). She takes on a lot of current cases that the media glosses over and has had family members of victims talk in her videos. Her videos are always really thorough imo
1 likeFacts
0 likesomg I am literally obsessed.
1 likeTrue
0 likes@Just My Name Here the
0 likesI'm on my last one.
0 likesRead me like an open book
1 likeOne more video, hten I would've watched the whole channel ':)
1 likedoing that rn
0 likeslmao, working on it!
0 likesFacts..... and then withdrawal sets in. When there's no more
0 likesYes
0 likesI've watched them all, now I'm watching them again.
0 likesI need more videos. nervous twitch while scratching neck
0 likesFact: if u haven't yet, you're gonna see this among the top comments on every video in this channel
0 likesYUPPP
0 likesGuilty as charged
0 likesI have nothing to say. Take me back to my cell.
0 likesI got sad when I seen he didnt have that many uploads..
0 likesAccurate.
0 likesI'm well on my way. This may be one of the blackest YouTube rabbitholes I've ever tumbled down...
0 likesyep sure am
0 likesDoing that rn lol
0 likesFact: you will watch every video in this channel multiple times
0 likesfun fact: and then youre going to watch each one again and again until you can almost recite them by heart.
0 likesim not speaking from experience at all.
I havenāt even subscribed but I have already watched like 20 of his videos in 5 days š
0 likesAnd then you should go to the Patrion and subscribe to watch all the others. I think this is my third binge of most of these.
0 likesYeah because thereās only about 10 of them and you only get one every other year
0 likes@Shannon H. no one stated a definition? Kadrix is just pointing out that if someone finds themselves rewatching something, they think it's a good video and they state as such. Like watching your favorite movie over n over, and he doesn't have 7 million subs either, that's a blatant lie on your end.
1 like@caramel Ding! You've got it. That's spot on what I meant!
0 likesIf I like a video, I won't mind watching it again one day. The fact that many people could rewatch it just proves it's good content.
People who don't like it or the content isn't their cup of tea don't have to watch/rewatch. It's their choice.
@The Duncan Clan
0 likes>'You watch more than one of these and youāre going to have some evil rub off on you.
The devil works in mysterious ways too. '
That's not how that works, normalization of a topic is brought about an event being downplayed which is not the case here, the only way to do that would be the viewer themselves downplaying the action. Then that's a deeper issue at hand other than a video dissecting these pieces of shit.
>'You cant dream of rapes you cant conceive of.
Now your brain knows.'
Again that depends on normalization and most actually can conceive of such, quite easily, but don't because they don't want to and so they ignore it. Sometimes it'll be brought up in videos like these but are quickly smothered as to not take a long-term affect, though this can't be said for those with OCD, but they aren't to be blamed for that.
>'... and yes some argument can be made āoh but itās good to know ! To defend ourselves!ā
Well thereās a damn reason fear is not a virtue. Your desire to defend yourself by associating with this sick shit, you end up promegating it.'
That's not how that works either, I'll agree normalization is a slippery slope and people can use this an excuse, but people researching on how to avoid it doesn't mean they're becoming a part of the problem. That's like saying someone who's well education on say, cancer, is then into cancer. This doesn't make sense and taking a few steps back, you come off as trying to limit knowledge on these topics.
>' Even if that promegation stays in your own head.
Iām ashamed I watched this to the end.'
promegation isn't a word.
after watching the first couple of videos then I organized myself and I started from first to last , just to make sure I don't miss one..
0 likes@Shannon H. I would rematch video, in case I missed something during the first time I watched!!
0 likesCurrently doing that! I only have a few left š
0 likestrue!
0 likesTo bad he only puts a video out a year š
0 likes@Torje Agersen Vigmostad check out That Chapter if you don't already. Pretty good channel watched all of them too
0 likesTruešššøšŖ
0 likesFact: you will support him on Patreon and get access to content thatās not published on YouTube
0 likesYea so my dad has a Mercedes and he loves that baby.
0 likesalmost there...
0 likesCan confirm this
0 likesOne more fact: Now you watched every video and you rewatch every single video a few times lmao
0 likesWelcome to the chain new ones
0 likesFacts lol
0 likesAbsolutely!! Iām glad I refound them! I thought they were done after Patreon went down. Epic channel ššš just a suggestion for people waiting for the next upload try āKitbogaā. Different but totally bingeworthy. The only other channel I wait in notifications for š
0 likesDonāt call me out lmao
0 likes@Shannon H. itās the quality of the content not the amount
0 likesAt least once lol
0 likesits so GOOD
0 likesYes I havenāt but Iām like 7 in and Iām so paranoid of what these people do but it is so like good kinda how they just keep pushing and pushing.
0 likes@Shannon H. thereās a patreon account JCS has also, some of his old vids can be found if you Google bitchune (weird name I know) and JCS
0 likesI'm already doing it XD. This stuff's making me consider career paths. I want to know all about how criminals tick and what made them the way they are.
0 likesGuilty as charged, Your Honor!
0 likesjust finished the whole list with this one, i discovered the channel on yesterday evening lol
0 likesYou are a time traveler who has seen my future! My only question is why didn't you give me the lotto numbers also
0 likesFeel me!!! Lmao this foo
0 likesIm working on it!
0 likesI'm on my way
0 likesYouāre an oracle
1 likeI wish a new song would get released its been to long
0 likesIm halfway there...
0 likesAnd once you do, youāll find yourself continuously coming back to the channel and rewatching all the videos. Too addictive.
0 likesStrategic Watching
0 likesTrue story
0 likesyou're right
0 likeslol halfway through
0 likesThen impatiently wait for the next one to come out, and nothing will make your day brighter when a new one does.
0 likesTrue dat
0 likesDoing it right now....
0 likesDude itās the commentary for me. literally the most logical commentary Iāve ever heard
0 likes110P
0 likes100%
0 likesIām on my way there. I just finished the Jodi video. What a ride that was.
0 likesAs soon as i saw this comment i was like "nope, i refuse" but it happened anyways....
0 likesWhy? Why does this interest me? It bums me out but it remains interesting.
0 likes@Shannon H. every video borders a hour, shit takes a lot of editing and other stuff
1 likeYessssss
0 likesThe first video I actually ever saw was Jenniferās solution and I feel in love with the channel
0 likesThis is my last one
0 likesi cant get through the casey anthony video. Knowing the jury let her walk free makes me too fucking sick
0 likesI'm watching them again š
0 likesFax
0 likesFacts
0 likesRewatching all of 'em for the third time!
0 likesMultiple times
1 likeliterally
0 likesFact: The real juice is on his Patreon if you like JCS content.
0 likesyep
0 likesThe more I watch these videos the more I'm scared of going to jail for something I didn't do because I'm so socially awkward that I'd look suspicious no matter what.
0 likesAgree
0 likesThis is a FACT!
0 likesyoure correct lol
0 likesLiterally. I havenāt been able to stop for 3 days. I need similar channel suggestions
0 likesTell me about it
0 likes38:13 Detective Jim Smyth doesn't take any shit
0 likesThis dude acting like heās in an anime
0 likesWow the interrogator nags almost as good as my mother
1 likeI legit ragged at this.
0 likesI really never thought about that there are people who have to talk with these psychos and not punch them in the face and i suddenly have much more respect for them
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It's their job. Probably a passion. To psycho analyze these people. I mean you and me are watching this with fascination. People have morbid curiosity.
3 likesI knew a lady that would frequent cop bars. They put down.
1 likethe guy barely moves his head
0 likesSobbing cuz he knows his ass is gonna be grass in prison
0 likesWhy are they wasting resources on that animal? Just put him down.
0 likesDoes Lawrence Krauss narrate these?
0 likes"in reality, no food was coming. The suspect had it right when he stated that the investigator didn't care about his hunger." I looooved that.
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Lmao
1 likeš
0 likesHis hunger should be the least of his worries!
1 likeIf he'd of asked for food before the interagation he would have probably gotten it they use food as a bargaining tool but once they new there was no more forthcoming from the freak " hey you wanna tasty meal? Gotcha , won't be long , yeah won't be long b4 your eating pissed on maggot ridden stale chomo fodda lol love it
17 likes@Sara Davis the fact they let him sit an hour before coming back was the icing on the cake
16 likes@Baby Nagger Someone had 0 friends in school lol
4 likes@OSSS Boys not the place to promote your "content"
28 likes@Yvonne Brown I hope you actually understood the tactic. It was genius
0 likes@Josh Richards also disabled his comments š¤£
1 likeCan someone keep track of how many times this officer has Said OK?
0 likesopiate withdrawl in prison must suck.
1 likeHe got Russell Williams, this boy has got a snowflakes chance in hell of walking on 5his one.
0 likes56:20 Ummm, what's that guy's deal??
0 likesCanadian master interrogator: "These things happen. People look at child pornography and murder eight year old kids. I'm not mad at you." Savagely polite, and politely savage.
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Boom š„
13 likesāHereās a blanket so you donāt get cold but the second you wrap yourself up like a victim whose house burnt down you get the bitch stamp, bud.ā
152 likesI love how the interrogator plays as though he completely sympathizes until the end where it becomes apparent that he wasn't buying it the whole time. But sadly, I think it was a lost 2 hours because there wasn't any development in the case.
61 likesI already have! Want more! Love profiling.
0 likes"something as simple as watching cp for hours on end"
9 likeslolol
0 likes@Bob yep
0 likesLike a true Canadian.
2 likesCanada has the best interrogators on the planet!
4 likesThat detective also worked on the Russell WIlliams case, another great interrogation by him.
6 likes@Roubyz that's where I have seen him. He str8 walked Russell into it.
0 likes@Bob well Rohan, that's why ur a YouTube commentor and he's the interrogator.
0 likes@Roubyz He's the best I've ever seen!
0 likesvery fleabag of him to bring up the pencils
0 likesSomebody wakes up one morning and decides to shit like this-
0 likesJCS videos are back!
0 likesI enjoyed the Paul Bernardo burn,
0 likes"That's why pencils have erasers, people make mistakes."
3142 likesAt this point, I would have confessed.
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2 likes@Nick D jeez that's a certified reddit moment
49 likes@Nick D "oh my god look at these people using emojis I'm SOOO much smarter than them because I DONT use emojis!!!!" it's ok I used to think the same way....when I was like 13
100 likes@callisto i love how his comment is deleted but i can pretty much infer exactly what he said lol
89 likesCop: "Here's a cup of tea, a blanket and a doughnut"
73 likesMe: through doughnut crumbs "Okay, so it all started on a Tuesday..."
Did he eat his donut finally?
4 likes@MagpieRat š
2 likesWhat Mike did was no "mistake". It was all his choices.
8 likesššššš
0 likesšššāŗļø same here
0 likesThe person full of shit in that room was the interrogator lmfao
1 like@callisto what did he say lmao
0 likes@glee something along the lines of "emoji losers"
0 likesššššš
0 likesGod what a coward.
0 likesJust realised the second interrogator at the end was the one who took down Russell Williams.
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The Canadian colonial, correct? I think your right. Good eye š.
2 likes@MarleyLove it is interesting to see the stark contrast in how he conducts both interrogations.
1 likeAnyway this detective can be diagnosed with āMmkayā disease? He averaged 22 āmmkayā per minute.
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I hope we find a cure šāš¼
0 likesOf the many parts I find disturbing, if the girl is so disgusted at what she saw, why did she get him a child to begin with,
0 likesWhat the hell did she think he was gonna do, have a tea party?
She helped him, she didn't help that poor little girl when he was torturing her.. she is just as guilty
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Yeah for sure. And they got the same sentence so
230 likesthe difference was that she was straight forward while he kept holding back, creating a much longer interrogation
122 likes@CaptainCaspin its no difference. That doesnt make her better it just makes him worse
198 likes@micheal olusanya i know that, but "she is just as guilty" from the OP implies that they believed that michael is more guilty. I was just clarifying why it appears so
51 likesShe later admitted that she was the one who killed the girl with the hammer. Pure evil.
189 likes@Steve Masek bro ong?
21 likes@Steve Masek what a sick world we live in
35 likes@CaptainCaspin unfortunatly you are right...
7 likesThats why she got life
39 likes@Lanna's Missing Link Thats good I thought they would've gave her immunity for her testimony.
19 likesYes it was her fault to she kidnapped the girl and didnāt help her when being murdered both are guilty 100%
14 likes@Kueny Thiluang they wouldn't give her immunity anyway since she didn't make a plea deal, she just confessed. The police had enough physical evidence to convict both of them so they didn't see the point in letting one get off to catch the other.
19 likesGuilty yes . Very guilty yes. But not as guilty
0 likes@HeadcrabN whoa, for real? So if she did the kidnapping and did the murdering does that mean he did the sexual assault at least?
11 likes@Your Evil half yes.
4 likes@micheal olusanya "That just makes him worst." Which by definition makes her better than him...
8 likes@micheal olusanya it is a little different actually. It shows she has remorse, which is a mitigating factor. Sometimes that can make a difference in sentencing. I work in a courthouse in Ontario. It didnāt affect her involvement in this case though. The fact that she has previous charges probably didnāt help her case either. I remember when this happened. It was huge Canadian news. Toriās body was found about 10 minutes from where I live. So incredibly disturbing and sad.
22 likes@Steve Masek Jesus she was the one to do it? Idk why I was holding out hope she was manipulated and forced into doing this.
30 likesIs it just me or are there JCS videos that have been removed? I remember him having more than what is currently available.
3 likes@CaptainCaspin they said right at the beginning of the video that she took 45 minutes to be honest about it. That's not being up front.
9 likes@micheal olusanya "That doesnt make her better it just makes him worse"
9 likesThe cognitive dissonance is real.
@Anonymous AJ theres no better in this situation. āShe didnt killer her but she did lure her to be raped and let her be brutally murdered without saving her but atleast shes sorry so its makes her betterā no. I dont see a ābetterā in there
7 likes@micheal olusanya Michael can't be "worse" without Terry being "better."
10 likesEither they are on equal moral grounds, or they are not. You cannot call one "worse" and insist the other is not "better." So, try again.
āAbooootā
5 likes@Emily Bye I see comments saying that she was the one who murdered tori but she accused him of doing it, does that mean sheās actually remorseful or not?
3 likesyes
0 likes@Strix So he wasn't wrong. She was lying... In his mind what HE did wasn't as bad as killing her.
3 likesI believe she behaved in a way more humane way than him. Also she showed remorse. That should mean something before the law, but apparently genuine remorse and cooperation doesn't mean anything for the law. In my opinion her sentence should have been less harsh than him's.
1 like@Anonymous AJ You can't argue with people under these type of videos. Because they don't argue with their brains but with their emotions.
4 likes@slovnĆ curling Under most videos, honestly. People don't learn to think with their heads anymore.
1 likeIt bugs me how you constantly see this framed as 'Michel's abduction'. No they BOTH abducted her.
4 likesAll the people saying it was her that murdered Tori are wrong, I looked it up and couldn't find anything on that also Wikipedia says he was the murderer just clarifying !
3 likes@Capatani She didn't just 'help' him abduct the girl and then walk away while he did the deed, she was involved:
2 likes*By Raveena Aulakh - TheStar.com
May 11, 2012
LONDON, ONT.āThe tension was high well before Terri-Lynne McClintic took the stand on March 13.
But she made it explode. What she left behind was a shocked and numbed audience ā and even more disturbing questions about how this young woman became a killer.
As the crownās star witness in its case against her ex-lover, Michael Rafferty, McClintic unravelled a horrific tale of Tori Staffordās last moments. How she, McClintic, put a garbage bag on the little girlās head and kicked her. She kicked, she stomped, she bludgeoned Toriās head with a hammer.
āI savagely murdered that little girl,ā said McClintic.
Toriās mother, Tara McDonald, buried her head in her fists. Her father, Rodney Stafford, wiped tears away with his shirt sleeve. Reporters were too shook up to type on laptops. Some spectators cried openly, most jurors looked dazed.
How could McClintic do this? How did she ever get this way?
As a child, she microwaved a little dog till it screamed.
As a young teen, she listened to Necro, a Jewish-American rapper who says he invented ādeath rap.ā
As an 18-year-old, she lured and killed Tori.
As a 21-year-old, she got into a fight in prison and kicked and stomped on another inmate.
The questions persist. That is the mystery of Terri-Lynne McClintic.*
I wrote the below comment after watching this video, I just can't process this, it seems too disturbing to be real, my god, what that family must have went through, I just cannot fathom. This is just so twisted and I feel so twisted up inside about what that child experienced before her murder. Also I feel like there isn't any mystery, she's an absolutely evil person who took out the rage she felt that her Pword boyfriend was more interested in a child than her on that innocent child with a fucking hammer. She was transferred for a time to a first nations healing lodge in Saskatchewan to serve out her sentence whatever that is until public outcry reversed that decision. Seriously who in government thought that was at all appropriate?
1 like*This one made me want to throw up, I cannot imagine how much pain that child endured before that grisly gruesome death. I've had a really strong opposition to solitary confinement because of how inhumane it is and some people have been forced to endure it for decades which is essentially torture. That said, I feel like this demon deserves to be put into a cage too small to stand up straight or fully lie down with a blinking light that just serves to attract flies and moths and fed bread and water for the next 10 years, then throw him in general population so he doesn't miss out on the brutality of other criminals. Normally I'm cynical and just see murderers and thugs placing themselves above chilled mole Lester S. as a naked attempt to prove to themselves that they aren't the lowest of the low and that they operate according to some moral compass, while that's technically true I don't buy into them not being scum of the earth but in this one case thugs and murderers are objectively and absolutely above this monster and he shouldn't be deprived of learning that.
I know that rationally there are really good reasons that we have rights against cruel and inhumane punishments and that this impulse is ugly but damn my mind is so clouded with rage right now I can't fathom any of those reasons.
Edit: I also hold virtually the same sentiments towards Terri-Lynne, I don't believe in hell but if there were ever people who deserved it. Paul and Karla as well.*
@Ben Cheevers I searched these statements and found nothing brother all the articles I see all state Rafferty killed her with the claw hammer Do you think you could link me your source ?
1 like@Capatani I don't understand, I didn't think embedded hyperlinks worked on youtube but as far as I can tell thestar article that I copied is linked as well as the author and date but beyond that, I copied part of the article that quotes her testifying that she killed her.
1 likeI wrote a really long comment that had to be split into two so nobody probably read them or at least in detail but two things about her:
2 likesFirstly, I think she killed that innocent child because she was jealous that her pword boyfriend wasn't attracted to her but was to children and she took that rage out on Tara Stafford? (I might have that name wrong)
Secondly, somehow, despite being a violent inmate who had 10 convictions for violence in jail during the first two years of her sentence and despite being objectively deserving of torture the GOD DAMN USELESS government decided to transfer her to a first nation healing lodge in Saskatchewan, that's below minimum security while not even halfway through her minimum LIFE sentence. They also transferred Micheal to a medium security prison that specializes in sexual predators, I kind of understand this because you can't keep him in gen pop but when the girl's dad researched the place he found out it wasn't a program designed to house and 'deal with' these monsters but one that gave them extra privileges and treated them as victims and worked towards their rehabilitation. Apparently he extorted 30k from his Mom who had a heart attack at 60 from the stress as well, his Aunt or somebody related brought this up as a reason that he should remain in max but this move stood.
They both have possibility of parole in 25 years
0 likes@Tank28 yeah that's the maximum sentence in Canada no matter what you do even if you kill a hundred Ted Bundy for example would have got the exact same sentence
0 likesIf she were a guy she would be guilty. In her case though shes a poor abused victim
0 likes@Not using My name There's so many cases like this with couples who are convicted together. The man gets the harshest punishment and the female just gets a few months or gets let off the hook completely.
0 likes@Not using My name what are you talkin about she is guilty she got the same sentence he did life in prison 25 years
3 likes@Steve Masek holy hell
0 likesShe said no to the lawyer, she got the book body-slammed on her.
0 likesThumbnail looked like Matt Gates so I thought I would watch
0 likesThis case is disturbing AF
0 likesHeās so disgusting
1 likeThis is exactly why I couldnāt be a detective because of people like this just make me wanna shoot them I know thatās messed up to say but I have no sympathy for people that pray on children! Thatās a pitbull attacking a bunny
0 likesHim trying to start gagging so he can be dismissed to the restroom or something.
8141 likesDetective: āOh hereās a bucket. Go right ahead, I wonāt be offended.ā
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N Logan true
14 likesLots of sociopaths will wretch like that when they are guilty. It is so messed up.
200 likesSheep how? š§ The laugh emoji is in response to the detectiveās remark. As in- heās like āyeah Iām not buying it. Smarter than you think I amā.
109 likeswhat timestamp was this?
2 likes@Reagan Bryan 17.00
2 likesFill your boots
5 likesI did that in football practice and my coach did the same thing š
16 likes@Brooke Trisano theres always some people that love to try and belittle people on social media...its actually the fucked in the head action is.
10 likesThat detective is fantastic, how can he stay so calm! Amazing control
8 likes@Brooke Trisano emojis are the sign that you cannot convey ideas and messages with words, thus needing symbols.
0 likes@karateswords Oof, and advertently responding to my comment with no purpose other than to attempt to make yourself feel more adequate than me showcases your inability to mind your own business.
25 likesHere is a revised version- without an emoji to suit your intelligence.
āHim trying to start gagging so he can be dismissed to the restroom or something.
Detective, unbothered: āOh hereās a bucket. Go right ahead, I wonāt be offended.āā
Thanks for your comment! (and to the person providing the timestamp) I have emetophobia so this helped me watch this without anxiety <3
23 likes@sheep I don't think you understand how she is utilizing the emoji. She is not laughing at the crime, nor is she laughing at the situation. Shes laughing because the perpetrator was gaging and making it out that he was going to throw up because, as the narrator stated, it was in order to gain sympathy. She put the laughing emoji there as a response to how the detective was completely unphased by his performance and provided him no pity
13 likesor sympathy he even offered him a bucket in order to show the perpetrator he wasn't buying his fake gaging.
I would try to improve your comprehension before accusing someone of being "sick in the head" as you so ignorantly stated.
@miss Anie Bananie Especially when they're dopesick.
2 likes@Kayla Marie It actually is wrong. If you study the latest information on psychopathy the people are born this way. It's a form of brain damage just like epilepsy or schizophrenia. It does not diminish his danger to society and he will never see the light of day which I agree with but like it or not these people are victims too.
1 like@Geordie Zinn Victims of what? We all are susceptible to our genes. Pedophiles have the choice to seek help before they hurt a child or their families. Not every psychopath kills people either.
18 likesAmy's Atmosphere Foes that mean you're afraid of vomiting or seeing someone else vomit.
3 likesClassic Canada
1 like@karateswords emojis are a new form of language nowadays
0 likes@Pratik Shirsathe ?
0 likesLiterally reminded me of being young and faking sick to get out of school.
2 likeswell he was kicking opiates so he may not have been faking.. however he doesn't look like he's kicking that hard. if that was me on day 2 no opiates I'd be on the floor.
4 likes@ź§Mike Sullyź§ I wasn't aware he was coming down off of opiates, I must have missed that. Definitely makes a lot more sense now.
0 likes@Voxhe yeah it's not mentioned in this video much (apart from when clintock says he went to a house to buy drugs) but he had an opiate addiction, that's why he sniffs, gags and has that red face. That's why the bucket was brought in. Any junkie can tell you that is detox - not a very heavy detox but still painful in his situation.
5 likesIt makes you very emotional too - when I'm in detox thinking about me being nasty to a schoolmate aged 8 makes me cry - so I hope he really felt bad for what he did.
Sadly I think he's a psycho, he probably didn't even care. If he was not in detox I bet he would have been arguing with the officers all that time.
@karateswords emojis are an emotiinal and or scenic expression, an extension of body language, written, spoken and conveyed through all means. You seem extraordinarily tradituinal like someone who still doesnt understand the concept of email.
1 likeMy spelling mistakes are atrocious!
1 likeDetective badass over here
0 likesI thought he was gagging because his reaction to being cought made him sick ( cus heās guilty)
1 likeHe actually said Fill yer boots.
0 likesI love being Canadian :)
Detective: "No worries, Mike. Buckets already here. I was hoping this was coming up-- pun intended, Mikey."......" careful not to get any on your blankie"
1 likeItās so he canāt be given any time to collect his thoughts
0 likes@Geordie Zinn it actually is wrong to laugh at the expense of a pedo and murderer? Hard disagree. We all are victims of our environment and our biology. Technically you could say about a serial killer "it's not his fault as he was severely beaten as a child, and his brain wasn't allowed to develop normally". That just leads to nothing being our fault though, and no one being responsible for their actions. We can better understand why they do what they do, but giving them lots of sympathy and not allowing ourselves to joke about them, is taking it too far.
2 likes@karateswords No
0 likesThat was great. Iād be as passive aggressive as possible too.
0 likes"T-This bathroom! It's my escape!"
1 like"This bathroom is taken. Use the bucket."
Dude this guys a monster youāre busted just be a man and admit you did it maybe you will see freedom in your 80s
0 likesWhat about the woman who spun the evil web to lure the innocent little girl to her nightmarish death?Will she be in isolation? Ä°magine other female inmates if they get hold of her!!
0 likesSentenced to 25 years only? He denied an eight year old's life, did not show the slightest remorse and denied that fact till the very end and this is all he get? Isn't this empowering crime?
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He has a chance of parole in 25 years. He will never leave prison.
2 likesWhoops. Looks like the good cop/bad cop act didn't work.
0 likesThis man is a genius! Talking for an hour straight with practically no response just to wear him down
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As he said several times, itās not the first time heās done this. Itās fascinating.
3 likesReminds me of Lisbon's hearing in le casa de papel
0 likesWants some bacon and eggs? Hey if it works give the guy breakfast.
0 likesHow to go to hell part 1
0 likesso the child was never told to never talk to strangers
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Apparently. The mother failed her badly.
1 likeThe dude sounds like Ricky from TPB
1 likeThe detectives ability to never stop talking is truly terrifying
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Cuz heās mad
5 likesOkay?
1 likemidwesterner's do the same thing, you gotta say goodbye 10 times š
12 likesJim explains that it keeps mike from having time to make up lies!
8 likesthe tec bores me if it was just a mistake let him go bs
0 likesThis guy is dumb as hell. If he really is trying to convince them that he didnāt do it, his demeanor in the presence of the eyewitness is completely unlikely. - If someone accused you of something so heinous, wouldn't you be like "WTF Terry!! Why would you say i did this horrible thing??!" - instead of just sitting there, looking pissed...? š¤
0 likesAlso, do you actually have to say 'I WANT A LAWYER' before they have to stop questioning you? He was refusing to say more based on (according to him) his lawyer having told him not to. Yet they still continued to question him.
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Sometimes theyāll still question you even if you say you want a lawyer an what theyāll try to do is convince you to talk your way into the crime before you actually get the lawyer Lmao š¤£
0 likesDetectives are too nice. In my country rhwy would beat him him to a pulp before interrogating him
0 likesAnimals in the wild have reported studies of eating their own young. But never sexually assaulting their own Young
0 likesSomething to note: his accomplice (18 year old girlfriend, Lynne McClintic) wasn't as "" innocent "" as investigators previously believed (if you could call it that). After her trial and sentencing new evidence came out showing she was an active and willing participant in the assault and was the one who carried out the murder. She played up the "I'm young and got involved with a bad guy" angle to get a better sentence but in reality: she is just as cruel and evil and downplayed that she wanted to do it. Feel free to look up all the articles that have been written since the sentencing, it's really horrific. I'm sure investigators have regrets.
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Even if she only lured the child to her brutal end, she would still be completely evil. I hope they both go away for life
169 likesI wish this comment was pinned. It doesn't show the image of the scared young thing who was abused into doing something horrible. I want to vomit. As a mother, I want to be alone with her for ten minutes.
59 likesLinks?!
5 likesYes and she was also charged with first degree murder and got life in prison. So nothing to get regrets about.
80 likes@AliĆ©nor Lougerstay Glad to hear that. It certainly doesnāt make things right but Iām grateful that she was convicted
14 likesWow, they didn't know until after sentencing? That's crazy!
3 likes@AliƩnor Lougerstay Ah okay so she did get convicted, thats good!
15 likesIn 2018 she got transferred to a healing lodge and there was public outrage. Toriās father fought to have her returned to prison and she was. Sheās eligible for parole in 2031. She probably wonāt get it but unfortunately we donāt really have life sentences in Canada. The max is 25 years at which point prisoners are eligible for parole.
16 likes@AliƩnor Lougerstay good
1 like@Matthew Skywalker Right?! Is that like a rehab for child molesting murderersā¦wtf?!
3 likes@SubGrappling 805 the healing lodge was mostly set-up for first nations people. But these are usually people who got arrested for drugs and theft, so it was shocking that she got a pass to enter a healing lodge (and I do not think she is native American either)
5 likes@Marga Esperanza Thank you, that makes sense. I really appreciate the education on this nuance of the Canadian legal system. It good they have a program like that for First Nation peopleā¦she certainly ought to have no claim to that.
3 likesPretty similar to the situation with Karla Homolka
1 likeIf this is confirmed it should be pinned asap, very necessary update
1 likeUnlucky for him that they got to her first. But they always believe the woman over the man anyways.
0 likesAny evidence to back this up?
1 like"McClintic" sounds like the term you'd use if you got a yeast infection from McDonalds !!
0 likesWow
0 likes@MotorCityGAMING or you could, I donāt know, watch the videoā¦
0 likesHis @$$ got tossed for a carton of squares in the pen
0 likesmichael rafferty: no food?
0 likesI think its insane how much he 'argues' like a child trying to get out of a punishment. He sounded so much like a little kid when he talked
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Thatās exactly what I was thinking throughout the video
13 likesYou are watching a boy that never truly matured and was messed up as a kid. This is not uncommon.
28 likesMaybe you now have a glimpse in the maturity and mindset of someone who would do this?
8 likesIt's a completely different persona then his mock shot.
0 likesEdit: @03:07 not a mug shot, but still a completely different persona he puts on during the interview
@eaa sports how would you know?
0 likes@Freddy Fox 500 what is his mock shot?
1 like@Exotica WILD Because I've see it a lot in me and other people. I was messed up as a kid and still struggle to mature and process stuff properly (not to this extent, this is disgusting). Very few people are born sick, and you can tell he wasn't because he realizes his actions were disgusting.
0 likesāIām sitting in this room for Toriā š¢
293 likesAlso, I canāt believe it took 3 years for the trial. Seems like an open and shut case.
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I think that even if it is an open and shut case, they need to turn every stone and make sure everything is in order and accounted for.
67 likesIf the defense is able to poke a hole in anything in the case, that might lead to a mistrial or that he would go free on a technicality. They just can't risk anything.
Its not like the movies, forensic labs take quite some time. The detectives have to write the full report about every piece of evidence, all witness statements, summary of facts, etc... Then all of that moves to the DA and they have to gather everything, put it in order, and choose how they will present the case during trial. Plus if the defense asks for more time they'll get it. If it was during covid years that would have pushed the trial back quite a bit. Its not as easy or smooth as most people think and if one piece is messed up the defense can tear a hole in the entire thing. So the process becomes very slow and methodical.
12 likesTime to trial after arrest is usually procedural not clarity. Time to trial BEFORE arrest is when problems with the case- missing suspect, inconclusive evidence, problems with the case etc -are worked out.
3 likesThey need to get a perfect conviction so he can't get out early
4 likesā@Ryder I agree. I just recently learned that's also the reason for excessive charges. NO chance of walking is the goal.
3 likes@bigSiip understandable
1 likeIām glad perpetrators like these are put through these interrogations. I wish it were continuous for the rest of their lives, with the continuous accountability. Thatās the real punishment.
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There's a black mirror episode that shows basically that
2 likesThat's why the death sentence should be abolished. It kills innocents and frees the guilty. As soon as the cover is pulled the true punishment begins. It's being outcast from society. It's the being screamed at in rage by others whenever you show your face in public.
1 likeWhy would you torture ppl?
0 likes@voice of reason Are we watching the same thing here? That's about the worst crime possible. Premeditated and remorseless.
0 likesThe ending gave me hope and comfort knowing that there are people in this world devoted to catching sick bastards like that.
47 likesThere are no words in the dictionary to describe the unimaginable cruelty in this case to manipulate a child into thinking she's going to see a puppy and eventually bashing her head in with a claw hammer is just incomprehensible the whole world should stop and listen at how cruel we are God rest the beautiful soul of Tori stafford.š
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You kind of explained it.
0 likesWhy that's the gist of it.
0 likesThe Detective at the beginning knew this guy is a complete monster, it's difficult to even tell someone who you know 100% did this on purpose is not a monster, props to the Detective
9 likesI wish youd make more videos like this, you have a PERFECT narrarating voice, and do such a great job editing.... PLS make more videos! Ill even join your channel monthly if you would!!
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JSC has a team behind it!!! but yeah i agree
0 likesI can't tell in the beginning if the detective is being a detective, a professional, a counselor, or a pastor. Very good and convincing.
19 likesI genuinely feel sick about this. The sentence is way too light, but i don't know anything that i can consider just for what happened. Maybe its because i have a daughter a similar age but this is so disturbing and gut wrenching.
7 likesI honestly don't think during the interview he's looking for sympathy. It's nothing more than he knows exactly what he did to that poor little girl and knows he's caught dead to rights
32 likesOnly in Canada would the detective say "Now michael, you haven't even touched your doughnut." š¤£ this is obviously very serious but that shit made me laugh
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Lol I thought the same thing I wanted to see if anyone else commented what I was thinking
2 likesFrom Tim Hortons none the less
1 likeWhat that little girl went through just breaks my heart. Never should happen
2 likesWatching this video I can feel myself becoming mentally exhausted listening to the detective's rambling. That really speaks to their skill in their profession.
9 likesWhile I agree with the verdict that both got life in prison, after watching some of the other cases on here, from a legal defense standpoint, that woman could have got an immunity deal for her testimony which confirmed the details that led to conviction both of the perps, like what Claralyn Balazs did in the Leonard Lake/Charles Ng case. Good thing she is stupid, people in comments saying she is a victim too, naw she wasn't a victim in this case, maybe in other matters but not this case, and just because she confessed to her role doesn't make her less guilty.
2 likesI live in a city near the town where Tori was from and I remember when all this went down, and when Tori was missing and it was all over the news š it was really scary and itās all so disturbing š
3 likesWhen the detective said "it's ok you can sit and listen". I didn't think he was being for real. Damn! That guy can talk a fox out of a hen house. Geez
6 likesYou know someone is guilty when they just sit silently. If I was wrongly accused of something I would've snapped at the interrogator. Great job btw he really is good at his job!
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That is some proper bullshit you just said there
5 likesI would sit silently or ask for a lawyer. Guilty or not. Unless I was really traumatised or something, in which case I may break down a bit but generally I can keep my composure.
2 likesIf either of these people ever parole out of prison, I would hope the public would administer immediate street justice
4 likesWhile I agree with the verdict that both got life in prison, after watching some of the other cases on here, from a legal defense standpoint, that woman could have got an immunity deal for her testimony which confirmed the details that led to conviction both of the perps, like what Claralyn Balazs did in the Leonard Lake/Charles Ng case. Good thing she is stupid, people in comments saying she is a victim too, naw she wasn't a victim in this case, maybe in other matters but not this case, and just because she confessed to her role doesn't make her less guilty.
0 likesāYouāre thinking āokay if I ever get caught for it what am I gonna do-ā Well you plan isnāt going to work. Okay? āCause youāre not built for this shit.ā
3 likesLiterally every murderer has this God complex that they can take a life and just move on. I love the was the cop just consistently shred him down. Itās so little but so satisfying to know those words will haunt him forever as he fits in his cell
You can always tell when it's a cop trying to play "bad cop" because it just isn't "bad" enough. It always reads and sounds like being lectured by a teacher.
0 likesso much respect to these investigators, having the resist the urge to just starting punching the guy out
4 likeshow is he even trying to say he didnt do it when theres evidence and a witness. i donāt understand how he just has absolutely nothing to say for himself that is insane
0 likesI am a 'no death penalty life in prison' kinda person. But in instances like this where the person can not possibly be rehabilitated and released back into society because they are a true danger to that society.. no release and let the other prisoners decide his fate with the most brutal karma they see fit.
2 likesDespite him being horrible, learn from this. NEVER speak without an attorney. You literally don't have to answer or say anything. Guy deserves to rot in prison but some people get unlucky when they say the wrong things
2 likesHow those cops sat that close to him and allowed him to keep breathing is beyond my comprehension. The most heinous crime committed by the most hideous person. And he sits with his comfort blanket, shaking, worried about his own torment. He should be left in solitary confinement with his guilt for the rest of his days.
0 likesWhich I hope is short lived. I truly hope someone serving life stops him breathing.
of all criminals and crimes that are committed, when an innocent child is involved it bothers me on a personal level more than any other crime.
0 likesEven if I were completely innocent I would have broken down and confessed after listening to that monolog for an hour.
1 likeChild predators never get better....life in prison or death.. period
11 likesI remember when this happened. Everyone was sick in their souls about it. Horrible.
0 likesThis one is the hardest to watch of these videos for me. Just the fact that he made a child feel the way he feels in the video and was aroused by it. But now expects the pity as a grown child killer that he didn't give an actual innocent child. But he thinks he deserves any kid of remorse. The cops should've been getting off on torturing him with medieval instruments to make the punish fit the crime. Honestly its still not nearly enough.
0 likesMy dad used to tell me there's trouble you can get yourself out of...and there's trouble you have to face head on...and boy then he brought that white bucket in he proved that statement right š¤£...theres no running from this....I HOPE THAT LITTLE GIRL HAS A SPECIAL PLACE IN HEAVEN šš½šš½
1 likeEvil do exist, so sad, thank God for having those officers š®āāļø
6 likesjust wanted to say that the canadian police is kinda amazing?? it took what, four days to find the suspect (having only a low quality video of her) and make her confess and tell them who was the killer??? in brazil it takes months (that in the few cases they solve and that they only spend months ā years even ā trying to solve because the kid is from a wealthy family)
1 likeDetective was so good he had me wanting to confess somethingšš
0 likesLMAO I even bought the fact that he was going to get him food. That man is incredible at his job.
6 likespeople who commit sexual crimes are usually the best at playing the victims and the thing is they actually believe they're the victim
2 likeswhat's amazing is how I am taken aback by the Mutt & Jeff Routine. the Good Cop / Bad Cop.
1 likethat one guy is intense. and he gets the credit.
but it only works āĀ when it works āĀ when the Good Cop acts his or her part to the hilt; if the Good Cop comes off weak, the Bad Cop has little to build on.
I love how kids have no rights and people are surprised that they are easy victims for sexual assault
0 likes"What's your biggest concern here?" "Losing my life!" And that's what psychotic people do, they only worry about themselves.
0 likesListening to the ābad copā roast him just for the hell of it during the last few minutes of the interrogation was so satisfying.
1 likeAs a Canadian myself, this is the most Canadian interrogator ever
0 likesHe used an older female to literally steal that child away, I'm wondering what her motivation was to help him, We know what his motivation was. I'm sure he'll get what's coming to him, but about her.
3 likesThis detective needs a raise, like my mouth is dry just listening to him talk that much
1 likeThey really said āoh , your co defendant was lying to us huh? Ok, tell her thatā šš stone cold
3 likesI love that the investigator offered to get him a meal and then just never got it.
1 likeQuestion: If someone believes they would torture and kill this man if given the opportunity and given they could get away with it, does that make that someone sick?
2 likesAsking for a friend.
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No
0 likesThis cop could literally talk the leg off an iron pot.
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take a shot everytime he says ok
0 likesJust the attempt to be guilty after raping and murdering a 8 YEAR OLD GIRL, itās, itās just sickening.
1 likeMorality of his action aside
5 likesWhat did he gain from this?
Why do people go out of their way to hurt others :/
Isn't it just happier, more peaceful and enjoyable for yourself to just live without hurting anyone
Why do people go out of their way to hurt others and fuck themselves up :/
I really don't get it, stupid is the only word i can think of
I love the all different ways we Canadians say āgoāā. from encouraging a toddler to encouraging a offensive attack. āLetās go!ā To āwhere ya goin ehā
1 likeI remember this case... so disturbing that I must pass on watching this.
0 likesThis cop talked more than any other person I have ever seen!!!
0 likesIt's monsters like this that cause feel-good laws such as sex offender registration that puts a made up label on so many undeserved.
0 likesThat said, I can not watch this anymore. Love to the family and friends.
This interrogator is relentless lol he needs a podcast
1 likeAlways enjoy these psychology documentaries, however the comments of how people would mercilessly torture and even kill the this person: Why?
1 likeNot even just why; that's disgusting overall. You're no less terrible than the person who killed the victim.
I get it, it's infuriating. I was raped when I was 6 years old. But to torture or even kill the killer makes you no less than them.
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You're wrong, those who prey on children aren't human and don't deserve to be treated as such.
0 likesHeās afraid of ālosing his lifeā. Wow. Then donāt take someone elseās life
4 likes54:38 I love this part. He roasts him and his situation like a pro comic.
0 likesThe parents, the poor parents. This one has damaged me.
1 likeCan we appreciate the fact that nothing was established in this interrogation.
0 likes"This is a mistake...you'd take it back if ya could...if you could turn back the hands of time...would you do this a little bit different...", I swear this guy could be interrogating me about my first marriage...
0 likesI wonder how many times the detective said āokayā in this interrogation
0 likesThe investigator isn't great. Bombarding the guy with words will just establish that the investigator is dominant and the accused is submissive.
1 likeHe asks questions and carries on talking. It started well, establishing a calm, non threatening dialogue.
As satisfying as bashing the subject might feel to the investigator, at the time, it won't get the subject to talk.
Way too much talking!
Idk.. it's said that the last bit where the cop starts roasting the guy isn't a strategy but it seems like he was trying to get a rise out of him so that he would talk. That seems pretty strategic to me. Heck, he talked a lot more when he did that versus when the other cop was playing nice.
1 likeThat second detective who comes in is bad ass.
3 likesGeez...typical cops....figure they've got it all down pat, all their questions, strategies, ploys, good cop/back cop, offers of food, etc etc etc....and hv the recording of the whole interrogation constantly disturbed by the main questioning cop's seriously annoying, blanking-out-the-recording, loud creaky chair!!!!! Brilliant!!!! I would think up here in Canada the police budget can afford some WD-40 for a creaky old chair, or, geez, a new chair at least for recorded interrogations!! C'MON boys in blue!!
1 like"Look at ya, reight? Ya can herdly eat er drink. Ya haven't even touched yer dooonut." I love Canadians so much.
13 likesI sometimes wonder- if reincarnation is a thing, what happened to Ted Bundy?
1 likeI guess he just came back as a more pathetic, less confident version of himself.
I miss all the videos that you deleted :/ they were informative and fascinating.. what happened?
0 likesTori could have been 21 by now.
2 likesWhen he doesn't want to say a word would be a death penalty put into play . . A life sentence without parole would never inter into play
0 likesBoy that detective can talk for a long time.
1 likeWow I recognize His voice from the Russell Williams interrogation. Heās the GOAT.
3 likesThank you for this child and her family! Damn him!
0 likesGlad to see some videos are back!!
0 likeshelp I can't stop watching these I feel my mental health declining
2 likesI've learned something about investigations, if there is food set for YOU specifically you and they press the face that you should eat. They know that your guilty and by you not taking any of it to eat is confirming that you are so overwhelmed by shame or fear because you knew what YOU did and your not gonna see the lights or day again
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i thought its cuz they need your fingerprints or wtver
0 likes@chocolate dogs they don't need to trick you with food to get your fingerprints lmao. They can literally just threaten you with more jail time if you don't give them
2 likesPublic hangings had their place in history & should still be on the table
1 likeInterrogator -Whatās your biggest fear ?
0 likesMichael -losing my life
Omg š± sick sick man
I'm not for the death penalty, in this case I favor castration more.
0 likesIts probably a good thing I'm not an interrogator. I'd be like "... Alright then, good talk. I'm off. Friday nights beer night." Just to stick it to him that one last bit. pos
2 likesHeās a selfish, spoiled monster whoās incapable of remorse. If heās ever released he will kill again.
1 likeI'm pretty sure he's not just crying in self pity. Pretty sure he's withdrawing from heroin.
2 likesthis is breaking my heart dawg
0 likesI cannot believe how this cop can stop himself from attacking this shit
2 likesWhen they brought his drug girl in and he fucking froze, classic.
0 likes"i just met one tonight" damn that was powerful
1 likethis played directly after a jerma985 compilation video and i wasnt paying attention and for like two whole minutes i thought this was a really weird bit anyway great video very sad
0 likesMe when the compost sketch is made: Ayo, that doesn't even look human, they aint catching nobody
0 likesWhen the woman is arrested:
Oh, yeah they got you
I like how the detective sounds a bit like agent smith.
0 likesLook what he did was fucked beyond belief, but if I walked into an investigation room with a blanket, a drink AND a donut at that point I KNOW Iām doomed. When he offered if he wanted a meal I wouldāve said yes, ate it, then asked for my lawyer
0 likesMost psychopaths probably suppress the urge to rape/torture/kill because they don't want to rot in prison. We can only hope.
0 likesYes.. eating your food is what's going to lead to the police thinking you're guilty, not the loads of evidence.. pun not intended
0 likesDetective said "Something as simple as watching child porn for hours and hours" Something tells me he downplayed that a tad
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At that earlier point of the interview he's trying to earn his trust, so yeah, he is downplaying everything
2 likesI hope after 25 years they have to serve another 25 Neither are safe -If this was a dog it would be put down ...Living is too good for him and I do believe in death penalty with such cases ..
0 likesIs the death sentence for these guys too much to ask
1 likeDude only got life with parole after 25 years? What in the actual fuck?
0 likesThe sentences Shud be jail "For the rest of their natural lives"!!... :(
0 likesThis constant "ok" would drive me crazy!
0 likesThink about this: Canada is a country that holds French and English people, contains a U.S. state, is ruled by the queen of England, and has a city named London. Pick a fucken lane.
1 likeNote: This joke is not mine. I had heard it during a stand-up comedy show named Purple Privilege, created and performed Heath McIvor, a.k.a. Randy Feltface.
21:46 is all he had to say.
0 likesMe playing good cop: Look at ya. You can barely eat or drink. You haven't touched ur doughnut!
0 likesI'm 15 minutes into the interrogation and I haven't heard a word from the perp yet)
1 likeNot him trying to make himself throw up š
0 likesWhy did Terry abduct the kid in the first place?
0 likesWhy was he given a blanket, also anyone notice the small hand movement's under there. I'm not insinuating anything butttttttt
1 likeGood sketch. Same dead eyes. Thereās a special hot corner in hell for these people.
0 likesPlay drinking games: take a shot Everytime the detective says ok.....
2 likesThis one is proving to be difficult to watch. What an absolutely disgusting couple. They deserve the worst punishment possible. Just vile!
0 likes@20:00 i mean talk about an interrogation! i would have broke down right then and there
0 likesAs soon as he wrapped up in that blanket.... guilty.
1 likeEy. Try to get a spot on that channel that always plays Forensic Files I bet middle aged moms and I would love this content and you'll get paid. \,,/
0 likesOk ok...16 mins in & he's yet to take a breathe, in 1991 i took the my teachers fountain pen, make him stop talking!
1 likeThat fucking drawing of a woman in the start of the video made me shit myself
2 likesHow can people be so cruel...
1 likeHe talked so much I was starting to think he was talking to meā¦sheesh
0 likes"...you haven't even touched your doughnut..."
1 likeRip baby angel š the world is cruel
0 likesWhat makes people do sick things like this. Even more twisted a woman helped this monster.
0 likesThe ambient hum in that room is scratching an itch in my brain like never before, where can I find this noise? What color is it?
0 likeseven id admitt to a crime in i had to listen to one more 'Ya kno OK'
1 likeThe worst interrogator I've seen in a long time
0 likesIt's insane how some people can do such horrifying things, then when caught act like a victim. WTF
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Abnormal psychology
0 likesThey're narcissistic sociopaths, they have no empathy or compassion; almost like they're aliens, they always play the victim. Chris Watts is one, he killed his pregnant wife and 2 young daughters.
1 likeThe Fourth Man Whatās your take on western societies. In what way are we designed to create monsters?
0 likesYou've hardly touched your donut
2 likesāI donāt think youāre a monsterā
2248 likesnarrator voice but he did think he was a monster
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Morgan Freeman is the narrator I chose. Great comment haha
41 likesThe interrogator didnt think the suspect was a monster because the interrogator sounds like a similar monster himself by the things he said.
4 likesI think we all heard Morgan freemanās voice.
15 likes@River Bleu I didnāt even know there were other narrators. š
1 like@Ultimate Powa the whole point of the weird shit that he said is to make the suspect believe that the interrogator is on his side and empathetic towards him so heās more willing to give a confession, itās not like the interrogator actually believes the things heās saying
70 likes@Ultimate Powa Yeah.. thatās the point. Did you watch the video?
4 likes@Heavy Weights Light Feels we were ALL hearing Morganās voice. Heās just that good.
1 likeHe knew he is, that's why he didn't think it
0 likeslol
0 likesThis is known as the Lying Off Your Ass technique, where an investigator, who is actually quite disgusted at the monster in front of him, pretends like it doesn't bother him, when in fact it really does. This builds rapport with the suspect while not allowing him to build morale.
7 likeshe wasnāt a monster
1 likeuntil he was
@Nigel Lush wtf are you talking about bro
1 likeThis comment is the best.
1 like@Nigel Lush "huhuhu you so edy and cool because thugs always be da good boyz"
1 likeNarator: Nigel thought full on that he made sense...and that HE was actually edgy and cool with this comment.
Nigel was neither making sense...or edgy and cool with this comment
@Oath Writer2 yeah thatās definitely where the original commentās meme format came from
0 likes@Ultimate Powa thatās how interrogations have to go, they have to play nice with suspects to get information out of them about their crimes.
0 likesI knew from the start...but when it was actually said that he raped and killed her, I felt physically sick. Can you imagine how that felt for her? She was only 8yr, her body wouldn't have even been developed to withstand that, the bone-breaking pain she would have gone through- all because she wanted to see a puppy.
579 likesI hope he gets his full karma in jail, every bit of pain and fear she felt right back at him.
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All it takes is for him to drop the soap...
39 likesAre there any other channels like this
4 likes@CellBlockNine Ugh. Please donāt describe it in that manner, I already feel sick enough.
201 likesdefinitely not a great way to get that across
63 likesRight, I just Wanna cry..as a parent one get crazy hearing this shit.
8 likesPoor baby.., May your soul rest in peace šŖš
@HeX Arcc maybe youre just too normal, emoji user.
0 likesThe only hint I learned from school was don't do drugs and never speak to strangers
3 likes@HeX Arcc why? I am saying it was wrong and so sad. You think the opposite? You think it was right and happy? Wow you are the sick one.
5 likes@CellBlockNine no, it's your flat affect through text that people are picking up on and it creeps them out dude. Just a heads up š¤·š¾āā
29 likes@Mirna Simmi the original comment was creepy in the same way. Second guy was just worse.
8 likesItās Canada, not the US. He will be out before heās 40.
5 likesI was a victim of being raped as a child by my biological father, from ages 2-9, and I can tell you that the pain is absolutely unbearable. It feels like your entire insides are being ripped apart with bare hands. It stays the rest of your life. The poor girl had this happen to her with strangers, alone, and having no idea what was happening to her. Its something she never deserved. Its something no child should ever have to go through.
19 likes@Creamy Goodness Damn man. I get that he mabye...lets say didnt use..the right words in your eyes but wtf. He only described it. Calm down
3 likes@Ryan Is So Conceited yea but they are sentient hopefully intelligent people. By using reasoning. They should know he didn't mean anything by it. And for all they know he could be dyslexic. Or have some disability that makes it hard for him to read social cues. Some of these people are triggered as heck. And calling him names like be kind to people jeez you judgmental softees. But Eh but whatever I don't know shĆt. Enjoy y'all's day people's.
4 likesā@Onanefe My female cousin got raped as a child. And a few years after she committed suicide by hanging. Because she couldnt handle it anymore.
9 likesSo dont tell someone to calm down when they have experienced something like this themselves or had family members who were affected by the most horrific thing a child can experience.
@Creamy Goodness Well I'm sorry for that. How should've known? I just think it isn't right to go on that guy for explaining/wording this ...lets say badly. I feel for everyone with their pain but damn it isn't like he said he liked what that guy did
3 likes@Creamy Goodness I agree with you whole heartedly sexual abuse of any kind is sick and shouldnāt be taken lightly. You donāt understand the pain they go through!
3 likes@Ana Gyebi No š
1 like@Ana Gyebi funny
1 like@Ana Gyebi you are just overreacting. Nobody cares
1 likePrisoners do not like it when you do something like that to a child. He will get his share, I promise.
6 likes@DumbDoodle Thank you.
0 likes@Creamy Goodness Agreed!
0 likes@Creamy Goodness I'm so sorry about your cousin, by the way.
0 likes@Ireland Gunner I have a strong feeling you'll eat those words one day, petal.
1 like@Ana Gyebi yeah go cry somewhere else just because someone used the words t i g h t and s m a l l. This seems so ridiculous to me
1 like@CellBlockNine Dang dude, youāre right but like why explain it so graphically
1 like@Mirna Simmi EXACTLY THANK YOU
0 likes@Creamy Goodness as someone who was raped twice. I can absolutely tell someone to calm down if there anger is misplaced. Bruh didn't say he agreed with the rapists. He actually showed pitty for the girl. Get angry at the right people. But this is the internet. And IV seen people put gas in trash bags humans aren't so smart lol
2 likes@chorof. apski Rape isn't about sexual urges. It's about power and dominance. In fact, rape requires no particular sexual desire but more so a desire to humiliate and torment. The penis is used as a weapon. It's very disgusting.
0 likes@Ajax Lewis i agree with all that you say but also they deserve it
0 likes@Onanefe this isnāt the time to be defending someone
2 likes@Minerva Minavera why not?
0 likesInterrogator: āDo you know what a psychopath is, Mike?ā
572 likesPsychopath: āIāve never met one.ā
Interrogator: āWell I just met one tonight.ā
Nice.
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Technically probably a sociopath, since he clearly feels fear and anxiety.
15 likes@James just about to say that
0 likesJim T well I think the line between a psychopath and a sociopath is very blurry because Ted Bundy is always said to be a textbook psychopath but he was such a mess before his death penalty that he didnāt even eat
11 likes@James people who are highest on the scale for factor 1 traits have diminished activity in their amygdala. They have a diminished sense of fear.
0 likesMario Calabrese I studied neuroscience at university and I must say that it's just not that black & white. I wish it was. It would have made the degree a lot easier. You are correct to point out that some studies have correlated activity in the amygdala to psychopathy, but you are wrong if you are implying that this means therefore that decreased activity in the amygdala is a predicting/causative factor for psychopathy . There is no established causative relationship between any brain region and psychopathy, only correlation. Particularly when looking at correlations between behavioural archetypes & neural regions, the samples are almost never satisfactory for a variety of reasons; size, selection bias. Often there are a good number of subjects in these studies that did not fit the overall trend i.e. they scored high for traits of psychopathy, but did not have any major abnormalities of the amygdala. Naturally, these subjects are considered to be anomalies, but when you have a sample size of 25 people, it's difficult to be certain whether you're recording false anomalies or falsely dismissing the real picture. This is why meta-studies are so important, but meta-studies are scarce (non-existent, to my current knowledge, but that may no longer be true) in this particular area. You have to factor in the misleading nature of fMRI studies & post-mortem examinations too. They're host to all manor of misinterpretation, namely, false inference. fMRIs simply measure oxygen metabolism. There's hundreds of reasons why neural networks might increase or decrease in metabolic rate which has no bearing on how 'active' or 'in use' they actually are in relevance to the variables of study. What's more; it's not uncommon for people to develop brain tumours or experience strokes in regions of the amygdala, and while those patients may have various symptoms not merely including stress disorders & behavioural changes, (the amygdala is involved in the modulation of several crucial brain functions, it's just popularised as the 'fear centre,' in reality the cortex is probably every bit as important in the perception of & response to fear), these people, even if already somewhat present on a sociopathic scale, do not suddenly develop psychopathic traits. I'm guessing you seen this on a documentary? Word of warning: I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen/heard of scientists being pressured into making bold, conclusive statements that they otherwise wouldn't make by media outlets, or badly edited to make it 'concise.' Always take these serial killer/psychopath documentaries with a pinch of salt, because I assure you the scientific literature is a lot more complex than simply: decreased amygdala activity, therefore psychopath; or vice versa. I've already waffled enough but I'll happily dig out a great review I read on the validity of such studies if you like
6 likes@Matthew Vaughan not actually what I was implying at all. I was implying that they can still experience 'fear'
0 likesMario Calabrese Yes I got that and Iām telling you that itās a correlation. In other words, plenty of psychopaths have perfectly normal fear responses
2 likes@Matthew Vaughan great
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0 likes@Matthew Vaughan That's so interesting! Thank you very much for sharing. Can you recommend me some article or source to dig a little more on the subject? I'm just a person interested in this stuff. ( :
1 likeMel SM Yeah of course!
2 likes1) This is the one I was vaguely referencing in my first comment. Itās one of the best ones because it tries to keep things clear & focused. If you read this alone youāll have a pretty solid grasp of psychopathy & the amygdala specifically. It covers some of the problems I mentioned with fMRI studies in much, much more detail, but it also gives you a bit of background neuropsychology on psychopathy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3811089/
2) This one is a bit more of a challenging read because itās a technical review purely designed for those in the field, but it gives you an idea of just how many different regions of the brain are identified as playing a role in the development of psychopathy. Obviously you donāt have to read all the results tables and stuff, skipping to the discussion parts will tell you all you need to know.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/jopy.12113
3) This one covers other avenues of scientific study such as genetics and biochemistry. It gives a good all round picture of what the research implies. Again, I wouldnāt recommend reading the methodology etc, you can just skip to which parts sound useful
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/personality-neuroscience/article/born-this-way-a-review-of-neurobiological-and-environmental-evidence-for-the-etiology-of-psychopathy/3303021C554B8D3AB5476C31F6CC4E7A/core-reader
@Matthew Vaughan I see! Thank you very much! I'll definitely read them. Have a great day~. c:
2 likesJim smith is a badass!
0 likesThat girl who left Tori' with that monster..I hope she hears her calling her name to the end..How awful can a person be to deliver a child to the hands of evil.Its beyond every thing ..
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I find her more difficult to understand than the sick piece of shit that killed the 8 year old. She was very remorseful and I'm sure she had nightmares for a long time after what happened, maybe she won't be able to forgive herself in her entire life. But what I find unbelievable is how she was able to knowingly leave the child in that car with this monster, come back, see that he was in the back seat doing things to her, LEAVE AGAIN and come back later and pretend like nothing happened. It's extremely remarkable that she would passively let all of this happen, and I'm glad she got severely punished for it.
85 likesShe was a teen when she initially met the adult Rafferty. A teen born to a stripper who gave her away to another stripper, who was an alcoholic drug addict who got Terri addicted as a young child; by 13 she was already addicted to Oxys and had dropped out of school, and she later had a number of arrests under her record. Throughout their relationship, Rafferty psychologically and physically abused her. She was terrified of him. She deserves every consequence she got and possibly more, but one cannot deny that the system failed her, subsequently failing Tori and her family.
108 likesThe murderers i mean not people who make comments
9 likesThis is how these kind of people work, have a woman drag a child in because they are more trustworthy, see Epstein/Ghislaine Maxwell, and then hand the child over to the man.
5 likes@Cha Lynn said tori called her name out. I don't recall this being said. I don't doubt it but what is the time stamp?
0 likesI totally agree and I wish the law aloud to turn over these freaks to the family no coffee and donuts ...no ham n cheeses in jail its called a stoning like the good old day's...stop wasting tax payers money to feed this worst of animal !!!
4 likesThe girl is the one who actually hammered her in the head and killed her. She confessed in 2012 and is now serving life sentence. Originally she got away with it by framing the whole thing on the guy. So when he said that she's a liar in this interrogation, he was actually telling the truth! But years later she confessed.. here it is > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMn3f2phw0
6 likes@Mango Roxx Jesus christ calm down
3 likes@Nino Latimer That is awful
0 likes@Vasilijan Nikolovski I didn't say it was an excuse. Read my comment again
3 likes@Vasilijan Nikolovski she wasn't just poor. She was a victim too.
3 likes@Steve Blonde read my comment again
0 likes@John Jonathan read my comment again
0 likes@John Jonathan No, I'm blaming the system for failing to place her in a safe home as a child, I'm blaming the system for allowing oxys to be so prevalent that she was able to become addicted to them at the age of 13, I blame the system for not jailing a man who was dating and abusing a teenage girl, I blame the system for not recognizing the obvious issues this person has and removing her from society prior to this I horrible event taking place. If you want to pretend we live in a vacuum where everyone's choices exist outside of societal influence then you're essentially saying that child rape is inevitable and there is nothing we can do about it.
7 likesYou're wrong. There is plenty we can do about it, but it will require a lot of systemic change that focuses on prevention instead of punishment
@Sugar&Spice I think the specific systemic issues she mentioned were failure of social programs and law enforcement to protect children, and the prevalence of and easy access to addictive drugs due in part to over-prescription.
2 likes@Sugar&Spice I've already listed all the systemic issues, I'm sorry about your reading comprehension.
1 likeNobody felt sorry for her, *she lied in court*.
@Mango Roxx "Dont do things you know are wrong" is an incredibly juvenile moral philosophy, btw. Your son knows it is wrong to cross the street out of turn, so he better not run over and save the old blind person walking into traffic, right?
3 likesMorality and ethics is a lot more complicated than "bad things bad, good things good". Luckily your son probably received education outside of the home leading to a more complete moral philosophy.
She's actually the one who KILLED the girl as well
2 likesNaa man you are wrong..its whsts in your mind and soul.I ve met some pretty eloquent junkies in my lifetime. Itz who you are as a person first.
1 like@Stephanie Ann yea, blew my mind..
1 like@Jess Pavlichenko well, reading the exhaustive essay mango r posted about how wonderfully brought up her son was by her, what do you expect? Somewhat juvenile I agree.
2 likes@Nil Patel I didnt say it excused her actions. I'm talking about how we prevent this from happening in the first place
1 like@Mango Roxx not everyone has the mental fortitude to handle a life of pain. There's a select few that do that can get out and make something of themselves but im sure you'd be surprised to know that many do not make it out of the struggle. The actions this woman took are not okay, and nobody is justifying them. However, to act like her circumstances did not in any way effect what happened here is ridiculous. Just because others can make it through a tough time does not mean everyone can.
2 likesThe poor dear got transferred to a healing lodge to destress because marginal native heritage apparently entitles you to an entirely seperate level of justice in this country. The Liberals actively resisted attempts to transfer her back into the hole she belongs in when the public found out for good measure.
1 likeIt's ironic that the interrogator repeatedly brings up Paul Bernado, if McClintic was just a touch more legally savvy she probably also could have Karla Homolka'd her way out of punishment entirely.
@Mango Roxx apparently you can tell by 4 if kids are sociable and good hearted. I used to go to my boys nursery some days and you could see some kids were loners
0 likesMissed the first ten minutes of the video because I got so engrossed reading two strangers argument in the comments.. well played commenters. Well played.
0 likesExactly my thoughts. I believe she will. Itās her demon till sheās long gone.
0 likes@Jess Pavlichenko you put up with a lot of bullshit from a bunch of people who made inaccurate knee jerk analyzations of your comment lmao,
0 likesrespect. i would have lost it. everything you said is facts though
"In reality, no food was coming."
2982 likesPretty sure that's the Canadian equivalent of a war crime.
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I actually thought he was gonna get em something
78 likesI wonder how warm a shower curtain actually is when used as a blanket? šš¤£āŗļø
100 likesSharon G
40 likesSo, theyāre not warm... but you get sweaty!
Donāt ask how I know
@Erato IsYourMuse did she get charged with anything? after watching these crime documentaries growing pot seems like a 7 year old snatching a gum from a gas station lol not a big deal to begin with but you know.
22 likesDo you want me to call you Mike or Michael? Doesn't matter. Ok I'm just going to call you Mike, unless that really offends you. lmaoo
25 likes@Break me a peice of that football cream Yeah, she was charged with cultivation. She didn't do time, but did have to pay $5000 fine.
18 likesNope. That would be the small pox blankets.
7 likesUmm is this a joke??
13 likesThe tea with only one sugar mixed in is the war crime here being committed
They probably would have if he started talking so they could seem friendly and keep him talking but itās better for him to be uncomfortable if he isnāt talking
1 likeDrRisen - š
1 like@Sharon G ššš
0 likesThat's a hate crime in Italy.
0 likes@Erato IsYourMuse I am pleased to read your comment.
0 likesThe news today 4-19-20 says otherwise...
1 likeMarjorie Tillman (takes joke seriously)
1 likePretty much
0 likesAs a canadian i approve this message
0 likes@Kristian Siordia oscar worthy
0 likes@d!b Is it because unlike cotton which is a good insulator and absorbs water, shower curtains traps humidity but not heat.
0 likesPlot twist: the only food they were going to give him was pizza with pineapple on it.
2 likesI wouldāve ordered a big juicy burger, ate it slowly while juice ran down my chin, never breaking eye contact
0 likesHahahaha dudde wow
0 likes@Marjorie Tillman they got him food from the nearest shitty fast food place close to the police station to coerce the most information out of him as possible, also to avoid violating his civil rights. People act like they took him to the fucking play pen
3 likesand got him a milkshake while he went down the slide
@Kristian Siordia I'm sure he would have if they guy was open to admitting everything, but if you're going to spend hours wasting the cops time denying the obvious then no food for you
0 likesNot all Canadians are nice people. Maybe the Canadian equivalent of a war crime is something closer to what these monsters did?
1 likeImagine people being mad at Americans for calling Canadians super nice? Wow people get offended by anything .
0 likesImagine being so casual, a detective, and pretending not to be horrified of the false human sitting right in front of you. I canāt imagine the day where I would be in the same room of another that has 17GB of torture in their brain stem, and not act in a physical manner. Such dignified restraint.
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You do not want to know what it takes to get into this job, pretty sure they have a "desensitization" program similar to the FBI and that's just all kinds of nightmare fuel.
9 likesI would do unspeakable things to that man... I canāt believe how awful someoneās mind can be. He wouldnāt leave that room alive thatās for sure.
3 likesGlad the girl got a prison sentence too. What did she think he was gonna do in a car alone with an 8 year old, monsters man...
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She actually was the one who bludgeoned the poor girl with the hammer. They amended her charge to first degree murder.
76 likes@Paul Walsh Where did you read that?
5 likes@Karo Fauske Google it. I read she lied to the officer and killed the little girl to end what was happening.
10 likes@Karo Fauske Not sure the story. I just Googled the case and it came up easily.
1 like@Tarik Al-Hoshan They were as bad as each other. This case made national news here in Canada and people were horrified. Both of them have this little girl's blood on their hands. Those that kill and rape the innocent have a special place in Hell reserved for them.
4 likesOh my gosh, have you heard of anything yet?
0 likesthe detective sounds in the middle of agent smith and bret hart
0 likes23:18 this is great
0 likesI thought it was just a bad police sketch. Then I realized it wasnāt and itās spot on. What a gross woman inside and out. I donāt care if she is a victim too, a lot of victims donāt lure 8 year olds to their own deaths.
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Though her being a victim doesnāt excuse the horrible act its good to acknowledge how people can be played in these situations, she was used as pawn and felt like it was the only thing she could do in the situation, weather it been for money or because she felt some since of low to no self worth its horrifying what people can get others to do.
34 likesNaa dude, im pretty sure she tried to repent as soon as she could. Ive met people who scam old folks out of cash, and i think Mike held some sort of power against that woman
7 likesShe's just as guilty and without her Michael might of not been able to convince her himself and she would of lived.
37 likes@Dr. Gainzzz Yeah so she got used, but the fact she came forward and didnt try to lie is worth something?
14 likes@Dun Dun it's worth something for her own self maybe. But what happened...happened. we can appreciate that she did at least something good in all of this...what an horrible story. A real nightmare. People like this they are only sad because they get caught.
14 likes@lajeandom na she had to be tracked down by the police and she denied it at first if she really was remorseful for her actions she would have handed herself in instead of being a sick coward
5 likes@Nosy Wendigo did I say she shouldnāt be charged? No. I said that she was used in this situation. I specifically pointed out that her being a victim doesnāt excuse what she did .
0 likes@Nosy Wendigo itās like you skip the first sentence of what I said
0 likes@Abigailhosey _ and it absolutely doesn't matter if she was a "victim" and a pawn in this situation, what she has done is absolutely terrible and can't be excused at all. You say it's not an excuse and then proceed to try to explain her actions and by that justify it in some way. if you have the heart to lure a child in and then watch said child getting sexually assaulted and then brutally killed without saying a word about it then you're a piece of shit. Not to mention instead of turning herself in to the police, the police had to find her and even then she denied everything at first. She's very much responsible for the poor girl's death and deserves a punishment according to that.
0 likesshe definitely is a victim. i have a little remorse for her in that sense, but she is just as bad as he is. how could you do that.
2 likes@Nosy Wendigo I was trying to make an observation on the situation not once did I say what she did was okay or that she wasnāt at fault, she was a pawn in that mans sick game, does that mean it was okay for her to being that child to him absolutely not. Iām stating a fact that he used her vulnerability to his advantage.
1 like@noesy I find it better to look at things from all perspectives, I have no remorse for her it was just an analysis of the situation. I like to think of the mindset of the individuals and see how they could ever do such a horrible thing, it helps me keep hope for humanity. Not by excusing people actions but finding reasons onto how it could happen.
0 likes@therealslimsadie I completely agree.
1 like@Nosy Wendigo i donāt think she should be let off easy at all, she was an accomplice to a horrid crime and deserves what she got. that being said, i do think she was abused and threatened.
0 likesShe was the one who ended Tori's life with the hammer.
1 like@Dun Dun It didn't save the girl but maybe it'll help others. But then again, she could've declined in the first place, even reported him and this wouldn't be a situation.
0 likes@ADT Yeah, and I could've invested money instead of drinking so much, but sometimes life is a lot weirder when you're in a situation you're not prepared for. Cheers.
0 likesShe's a sicko too, no matter what power he had over her.
0 likes@Dun Dun she tried in the beginning, they just broke her to admission
0 likeswhy do they cry like u wasnāt crying when u was doing this !
0 likesMe: 'wow this investigator is just rambling now'
2948 likesJim: 'It may seem like the investigator is rambling right now'
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Me too, at that exact same time. Awesome
83 likesJim is the best!!
57 likesHahaha right?!?!
23 likesJim has a remarkable understanding of human nature
150 likes@Spencer Williams It may seem that Jim has a remarkable understanding of human nature right now...
211 likes@Judas Ezekiel it looks like you're trying to add to a running joke. Can I help?
14 likes@Sabbat-X It may seem Judas is trying to add a running joke right now....
63 likesWhatās life like as Gandalfās XX progenitor? Asking the real questions š
4 likesloool The Led Zeppelin song "Ramble On" just popped up in my mind :D
16 likesxD
2 likesIt may seem Lady Wintergreen is asking the real questions ....
2 likesGandalfs Mum what an honor. You raised a great wizard
4 likeslol
0 likes@Honeygirl 27 It might seem like McNulty'sSoberCompanion is attempting to resuscitate the joke right now...
2 likes20 mins through and he's still bloody rambling and Rafferty is screaming in his mind. ..ok let me say my piece as you keep telling me to let you know what happened!!!
7 likesBlimey, he really has took some speed or something and just going on and on and on.....28 mins and he's still 'rambling'!!!!!!! (WTF)??,
@Spencer Williams
0 likesYeah but Jim isn't doing the interview, or am I missing something??!!??
LOL
0 likesI was reading this as it was happening then he said it
1 likey'all realize that there isn't a guy named Jim, right? it's a collective. I know, its like finding out Santa isnt real. the voice you hear is a paid narrator reading a script put together by people who worked cases
1 likeYou next line is "wow. This investigator is just rambling now."
0 likesBahahaha
0 likesJim is boss......savagely awesome.
1 like@darrenmuse lmfaoo ššš
0 likesAn hour into the video, and the investigator hasn't even stopped between sentences or take a breath, lol. I felt like screaming OK! I THINK HE GETS IT! NOW CAN WE PLEASE HEAR WHAT THE FUCKER HAS TO SAY??
6 likesGod I just kept praying for some angered deputy to storm in the room and drop kick this disgusting piece of shit. Iāve never been more angered by an interrogation. This dude is the worst
0 likesJim is ON it
1 likeJill E Beans My thinking too. Given that this video is under an hour, I wonder if he didnāt talk and repeat himself quite as much as he appeared to? Clearly the technique didnāt work this time.
0 likesKill E Beans if he lets the suspect talk he ruins the momentum he was building as the suspect would probably just conjure up a lie or stay quiet the whole time. Rambling is what kept the suspect on edge and unable to focus on a potential lie. And if he succumbed to the psychological pressure he would have blurted out something that was ill-prepared or truthful. That's the whole point of it. Unfortunately it didn't work but the dude was an absolute pro at what he was doing
0 likes@Phoenix-Kenzo Da Pathaan Imagine that he has coffee and cigarette breath too, making the suspect nauseous and queezy.
0 likesdude ran his mouth so much that i don't think the guy could even sneak in a word to admit what he's done
0 likes@Jill Kš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesIām sorry but he talks too much. So easy to just let him talk about his background. He was most definitely abused as a child also and lived a very dysfunctional family life with violence. But the interrogator just allās and talks and gives him info he can use too to get out of it. Too long winded.
0 likesOh come on. No person on Earth looks like that composite sketch.
49460 likesThree seconds later
Well I'll be damned
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The Zigzagman genuinely lold
2522 likesThat was my exact thought
Same. like y are the eyes dead on š
2122 likesAs an artist, I had the same exact thought.
1776 likesSAME š¤£
341 likesMe too. thatās a terrible drawing. No one loookkss.... wow spot on!
1946 likes100% what I thought! š
364 likesThe Zigzagman my thoughts exactly! Wow the similarities were cunning! Smh, great job.
290 likesThey actually intentionally do that, where it looks fake. People are more likely to remember if they see DISTINCT features, which is why they over exaggerate certain features
1219 likesSame here
36 likesLol
29 likesBlows my mind if police gets a blurred 1989 video recording of a person's face these sketch artist detectives can get a damn near 100% estimate match.
518 likesWell guys our OPP are the best at everything, even the drawings! sarcasm
34 likesšššš
7 likesSame thought!
11 likesLol, I was laughing at how awful that sketch was... 3 seconds later I verbally apologized to the video
454 likesThatās seriously what I thought!!!!!!!!
21 likesBahahaha YESSSS!!!!
19 likesi literally thought that also
17 likesI was exactly the same
16 likesLol. I love this comment. I thought the same thing.
45 likesLMAO
12 likesHaha cant believe how many people had the same thought as i did
53 likesCollin Wood oh wow I didnāt know that
4 likesBro I thought I was buggin šššš
23 likesnah, mouth and nose are waaay off. eyes and brows though
22 likesššš
5 likesThe Zigzagman literally my exact thoughts
12 likesššššš I thought the exact same!!!
9 likesThe Zigzagman lol!!!!!!! Unreal.
6 likesLmfaooo
7 likesI don't see that much similarity to be honest. The eyes and brows, maybe, but everything else looks different. The picture has sunken cheeks(while the lady has chimpmunk cheeks), thin lips(while the lady has average sized lips) and inaccurate laugh lines. If the picture looks like anybody, it's Sigourney Weaver, who couldn't look any more different than the lady in the video.
52 likesI'm not saying it's a bad sketch but it's definitely not jaw droppingly accurate like everyone here says.
@Amelia Singleton
22 likesShe was sentenced to life in prison with a possibility of parole in 2031.
Late last year she was transferred to Okimaw Ohci Healing Lodge, a native American prison focused on psychological healing and reintegration into society.
@Kristjan Kangro Yea I'm with you. I don't really get how everyone in this thread thinks it looks dead on. There's some similarity in the eyes I guess but other than that I don't think she looks anything like the sketch.
27 likesTime?
3 likesWhat's the time on that? I just listen to these, I don't watch.
14 likes@Bart Simpson Found it. 2:50
28 likes@Ohfishyfishyfish Thanks!
5 likesOmfg I said that same shit. Wtf you cant see her face in the video how the fuck. Then bam we got her
8 likesyeah. no
1 likeBrandon French I am not sure, but I assume that they used eyewitnesses for the sketch.
7 likesI thought she looked like the witch from snow white
2 likesššš
4 likesš
3 likesThis case is so sick l I can't even wrap my mind around this level of evil. I recognize Detective Smyth in this video from the other video when he interrogated Russell Williams. I have so much respect for Detective Smyth and his fellow Detectives for being able to deal with these psychos. I couldn't.
39 likesRyan Pumpkin yes that other guy (bad cop) is a legend! āWhat are we gonna do Russ?ā
6 likesDizzy Jaxal Hahaha. Yes. I've watched that Russell Williams interrogation probably like 15 times at least.
9 likes@Alex Flockhart /composite/ sketch
2 likesLOL
4 likesYup
3 likesI had to skip back lol!!!
3 likesThe Zigzagman omg I'm dyin' right now!š¤£š¤£š¤£
1 like@Kitty I wasn't describing the sketch, I'm saying her actual photo looks like a composite of different people's features glued together.
5 likes@Alex Flockhart oh sorry XD
1 likeIdk to me she looked nothing like the sketch
4 likesRight? I'm honestly impressed.
3 likescomposite sketches are no longer drawings by an artist. They are digital images reconstructed from a database.
3 likesššššš
2 likesexactly what I thought - it's too general to match any specific face... oh wait
8 likesš
2 likes@Kerry Buchanan that's your brain deceiving you. Its using information to fill in the blanks from both images, but it was a spot on sketch.
5 likesLol right!
1 likešššššš
1 likeThe Zigzagman hahahahah..no shit . Hard too hide that mug
3 likesKristjan Kangro man why canāt you just let us have a laugh at that womanās expense?? ššš
4 likeslmfaoooo
1 likeI read this comment before this part of the video and it made it that much funnier when the sketch is shown
5 likesLol I thought the same thing about the sketch
1 likeThat's exactly what I was thinking!
1 like@Bryan Snapp me too š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
1 likeForensic artists actually do this on purpose, to accentuate the features people tend to notice the most: the eyes, and the mouth. This subconsciously "sets" the imagery in the viewer's mind, so when they actually see the person in question, it "clicks" right away.
5 likesAlso, sometimes, they will intentionally distort or obscure certain features, to verify that a witness actually saw the question person, or not.
Lmfao! I thought the same shit! They're never gunna find someone with that thi.....oh wow.
4 likesI laughed so hard at this comment
1 likeššššÆ
1 likeYea
1 likeThe Zigzagman it was racist tho they drew her dark at first when really she was white lmao
0 likesSame
1 likeThey do it on purpose so that the suspects outstanding features stick out in peoples minds. Hypothetically I think my composite sketch would be my eyes with chubby cheeks over emphasized and same with my overbite.
2 likesš¤£šš¼ my thoughts as well!
1 likeThe Zigzagman lmaooošššš
1 likeThe Zigzagman For fucking REAL!!!! Ha ha ha
2 likesHAHAHA X 5000!!! Love your sense of humor! Thank you for making me laugh. š
2 likesMe too man!!!!
0 likesLmao. My thoughts exactly.
3 likesSees sketch: lol come on, what a bad sketch.
Sees mugshot: holy fuck.
Ha yeah
0 likesChico and the man
0 likes@The Zigzagman OMG That woman should never ever be free to harm another innocent...
1 likeAre yāall kidding me? The sketch actually looked nothing alike imo but the eyes by the slightest..feel bad for the real skinny women in town getting questioned at checkout lines š„“
0 likesOoooo
0 likesThe Zigzagman I know right? Looked absolutely inhuman but then when you see her, they did a damn good job
2 likesThis comment sent me š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
3 likesMy exact thought process š
1 likeWhew I needed a good laugh haha thank you
1 likeExactly, the eyes spot on!
2 likesššššš
1 like@certified cutea exactly
0 likesLmao same .. I was like oh they will never find that person then bam š„ they got her lol
2 likesThat was word for word exactly what I thought...
1 likeExactly
0 likesš
0 likesIt was like seeing an inanimate object turn into a person. Kinda like pinnochio
3 likesIt's really bizarre how the sketches don't look anything like a real person, but they work sometimes.
0 likesThe Zigzagman šššš
1 likeššš
1 like@Whitney Yvonne šš
1 likeI'm dead šššš
3 likesThe Zigzagman šš¤£š
1 likehaha!
1 like@TowwerN3 š
0 likesLol yeah its actually accurate
1 likeThat's what I was sayin about the Elizabeth Smart Sketch. How in the fuck did they match the two. Dude looks NOTHING like sketch yo??!!
0 likesHahaha...at first I was like wow great sketch....then it was , well damn no shit lol
2 likes@Paper Chaser lmao
0 likesShe looks more like a drawing than the sketch lol
0 likesShe looks like what people describe when they claim to see the "Men In Black"
0 likesLmfao, this is exactly what I was thinking!
1 likeIt wouldn't be a thing to do if it doesn't work.
0 likes@Kermit the Frog
0 likesDon't be smarmy. People are bad at their job all the time.
The Zigzagman lol
0 likesThis comment is life lol
0 likesDifferent eyebrows, hairline, nose, mouth, cheeks are puffy not shallow.
0 likesYeah, exact same person......
I was just about to comment this. It pissed me off
0 likestylerhill40 they came up with the composite from eyewitness descriptions, not grainy video... if they knew her eyebrows were that busted from video footage, theyād have just shown the footage
2 likesFrom my understanding of police sketches they pick the unique features of a person(like cheek bones, eye sockets, teeth) and exaggerate them so someone is more likely to be like to recognize them unlike traditional art where people look more vague or cartoon-y
2 likesNo liesš¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesSame
0 likesDitto
0 likesLooks nothing like her?
0 likesIkr lol
0 likes@Green_Mushroom_Cloud makes u wonder what kind of tech they actually have.
0 likes@Dan Gagne sure..just ask the natives up in small town. Lol
0 likesThats my thought to a tee lol
1 likeI KNOW!!
0 likesThis is hysterical š
1 likeš¤£
0 likesWhat's the time stamp for this sketch? I didn't see it?
0 likes@Kristjan Kangro I agree with you that sketch looked like some sort of alien.
1 likeI thought the same thing!!!!!
0 likesšššš
0 likesRight ?! Lol
0 likesMe: Ong what the fuck is th-
1 like2 SECS LATER
Me: oh... that yikes
Bryan Snapp lmaooo same man.. i never been checked by a group of pixels so fast
1 like@Kristjan Kangro it's effective enough to find those who were preying on that little girl....
0 likesscared me at first lol
0 likesThat truly freak me out! Amazing..
0 likesI just woke my dog up from a spontaneous burst of laughter.
0 likesSo true. lmfao š¤£
Glad I'm not alone.
0 likesI read this, still didnt believe it'd be close.
2 likesfive seconds later
Holy shit
FACTS IT WAS SO FUCKING ACCURATE WTF
0 likesššššthis comment made me cry laughing
0 likeson god lmao
0 likesLMAO FUCKIN SAME
0 likesThat composite sketch look like her. The day the concentration camp she was in was liberated.
1 likeI think they need a new sketch artist. Except being Canadian they're too concerned with hurting the sketch artists feelings to fire her or tell her she's a bad composite sketch artist.
1 likeYEAH I WAS LIKE ālol nah.. who tf drew that..? They couldnāt see that from the video. Iām sure she looks super diff- OH MY GOD WHAT?!ā
0 likesLmfao that sketch scared me!
0 likesOmg lol I thought the same!
0 likesLMAO fucking same
0 likesSome people do look sketchy
0 likesI rewound 4 times!!!! šššš
0 likesLmfao I even skipped the video back 10 seconds the 1st time I saw that so I could see it again š
0 likes@Kristjan Kangro These sketches are done by a witness describing the person's face to the artist. So the fact that they can actually make it look even this accurately like the person is impressive enough. It's hard enough to accurately draw a person's face when you're looking at it. Doing it when you've NEVER seen the person is some peak skill
1 like@Amelia Singleton Sometimes the accomplice will get immunity if they can provide damning enough evidence, especially if there's cause to believe they weren't 100% on board with what was going on. But in this case she was charged, though she likely still got some amount of leniency for her cooperation with police.
0 likesšššššššššššš
0 likesLmfao same
0 likesThe Zigzagman LMAO! Making your comment even funnier...for some reason when I first read it, I heard it in Rodney Dangerfieldās voice in my head.
1 like@Kristjan Kangro I beg to differ with the 12k vs 18...
0 likesevery time
0 likesāWell shitā
0 likesIām sitting here like...there is no way god made his face-
0 likesLmao
0 likesš
0 likesš My exact thoughts
1 likeLmao
0 likesNicole Jessica damn as in goes Feivel goes west? Canāt believe Iām not the only one who remembers my boy!! What you know bout Nimh...
0 likesSketch artists are. So. Fucking. Underrated.
1 likeLike really good fucking police work. I wasn't expecting it.
1 likeBRO I WAS LIKE OH SHIT WHO THEY GOT SKETCHING??
1 likeLook at the Bernardo sketch
0 likesšššš yesssss
0 likesiām waiting to see if someone who does this is or familiar to this can explain but i have watched A LOT of documentaries and videos who use visuals like that to find a missing person or a wanted person and catch the exact person they were looking for
0 likesand im going back to the beginning to find this sketch.
0 likesLOL my exact thought
0 likesLmao
0 likesahh lmfao cough laughing
0 likesHahahhahahaha wow! Lol that was good dude.. Wow lol
0 likesSame lmao
0 likesDude, you just summed up thousands of people's thoughtsš
1 likeIām convinced Jesus Christ himself guided that sketch artist to ensure the police got the lead they needed
1 likeHahahha i shouldnt laugh but damn
0 likesšššš
0 likesLmao if this isn't soooo accurate, idk what is
0 likesI had the same thought!!!
0 likesYes!!!!! This is exactly what my brain thought!
0 likesLmaooo
0 likesI was so surprised by this comment I literally choked on my food when I laughed out loud. ššš
1 likecan always count on the YouTube comments to say exactly what youāre thinking
1 likehaha read this right as soon as it popped up
0 likesLol I legit was thinking wtf that sketch doesn't look like it's real then HOLY SHIT WTF
0 likesAll these videos are full of content that makes me feel horrible about the world,but I love watching them! I donāt think I love feeling horrible about the world hmmm idk?!?!
0 likes"Like my new sketch? It took me 17 hours."
1 likeYeah Iāve noticed female heroin addicts have the same distinct, yet generic look to them.
0 likesThat's exactly what I thought.
0 likesš
0 likesIL
0 likesHaha comment of the day...š
0 likesLol true
0 likesMy thought exactly
1 likeliterally everytime I see composite sketches
0 likesLmaoooo
0 likesLmao accurate!! šš
0 likes@B urr me too, I was like....thise proportions are off. Did a newbie draw this?
0 likes@Legacy28 don't believe that. That's ridiculous. If that were the case, I could be a sketch artist. They get exactly what they are told.
0 likes@Kristjan Kangro I agree but it's the overall effect which is perfect. if you scroll down so the hair on top is hidden then go between it and the photo, it's uncanny
0 likesThats hilarious
0 likesI hit the forward and back button about 4 times each comparing these almost IDENTICAL pictures....LMAO
1 likethose sketch artists are magicians
Hahahahahaha truuuuue!!!!
0 likesSame!!!!!
1 likeActual š
0 likesI thought the same fucking thing man holy shit
2 likesLol
0 likesMe too!
0 likesI knoooooowššš
1 likešš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesI really thought it was dark shading. But nope. Spot on. I was bewildered. š¤£
0 likes@Umatsu Obossa both she and the guy got life in prison
0 likesEven I thought the exact same thing.. Who in the world looks like that... And then !!BAM!! Lol
1 likew
0 likesExactly šššš perfect match!!
0 likesTime stamp I must have missed it somehow
0 likesYOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! šš FACTSSS!!!!
0 likesFor real!
0 likesSame
0 likesTime stamp?
0 likesThey look similar but still not the same
0 likesLmao I was thinking the same and then I saw the real picture
0 likesSheās cute tho. Built good.
0 likesSorry wrong channel I thought this was TCAP
my thoughts exactly
0 likesIpm sorry for your notifications lmao
1 likeI imagined a big country dude putting his hands on his hips saying that š¤£ Well, i'll be damned
1 likecomposite sketch always look creepy
1 like66
0 likesI love how everyone here is responding to this the same way I did mentally. I actually laughed out loud
1 likelol Right!
0 likesOMG, that's what I thought! š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesOmg thatās exactly what I thought lmao
0 likesYep
0 likesI WAS LIKE āš¤ well who the f- oh š¶
0 likesOMG, HONESTLY, MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!
0 likesbest comment i've seen on JCS thus far! LOL!!! ššš
2 likesDude same šš
1 likeI thought the same thing. Then the ole āoh shitā thought slapped me in the face when her picture was shown after.
1 likeššš
0 likesI thought the actual person looked fatter than the drawing. But yeah the eyes were spot on
0 likesThe reason composite sketches looks like that is that so the drawing can imprint to the viewers mind the kinda exaggerated facial features so that it will be easily recognized when you look at the supposed suspect face, you'll quickly recognize it is them in the sketches. Even the composites has psychological impact on a normal person's mind.
0 likesYep, yep, thatās true
0 likestoo bad she looks nothing at all like the sketch
0 likes@Collin Wood incorrect
0 likesI'm pretty surprised how they got such an accurate sketch off poor quality video taken from a distance.
0 likesThe sketch looked like demi lovato
0 likesShe said: š
0 likesTrue, but the thing is, thatās apparently on purpose.
0 likesThey simply show the features that the witness describes, exaggerated, because apparently thatās more effective than an accurate picture. Mad, but true.
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0 likesāHow the fuck are they expecting to find anyone who looks like that? Nobody looks like that poor excuse for a composi-...
1 likeWell shit. Itās an accurate sketch. I take back what I said.ā
Had to go back to see the sketch after reading this. Busted out laughing cause its true lmao
1 likeright? I actually had to rewind to see it again because I was shocked at the accuracy lol
0 likesThis comment got me š
0 likesRight! šš
0 likesLmao i was like hold the eff on, holy shit it is her..
0 likesnaw ye didnae
0 likesExactly!!!!
0 likesThey even got the bags under her eyes like damn
1 likeIkr
0 likesmy thoughts exactly
0 likesI spit my drink reading this comment! I literally thought the same shit when I saw it ššš
1 likeThat is literally the exact thought that went through my head LMAOOOO
0 likesOmg my first thought xD
1 likeI wasnt sure if I needed to congratulate the artist or the observer ... but they nailed it.
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0 likesššššš literally what I was thinking
0 likesBruh š¤£š¤£ accurate
1 likeLmao! They had to go back to apologize and rehire the sketch artist.
0 likesHOW did they do that though?? Her head on the CCTV was literally 4 pixels. And she wasn't even facing the camera??? How did they get her sketch so perfectly???
1 likealmost made me jump to see how close it actually was; a weird, flat face
0 likesWell, shiver me timbers!
0 likesšš
0 likesHahahaha
0 likesHaha, she got Odo face!
1 likeSame šš
0 likesMy exact thought
0 likesYES
1 likeI SAID THE SAME
0 likeslolol
0 likesit looks exactly like my sister and the sketch scared me so much bruh
0 likes@B urr artist? Yes I've used ms paint aswell..
0 likesI thought the same thing lmao, then the picture came up of her and I was well oh shit it does look like her lmao š¤£
0 likes@Ssuli99 most sketch artists are actually wonderful artists, but forensic art and police sketches need to basically take the most dominant and memorable features of a person, and kind of make them really the focus of the face, almost to the point it looks silly. This is so people keep what they see in their minds, rather than seeing a pretty average face with general features and forgetting about it right after.
1 like@sheesherwhiz truly memorable, great work by that sketch artist
0 likes@Dan Gagne it was impressive
0 likesThat's how your memory classfies faces, that's why they do it so simplified.
0 likesfrššššššššššš
0 likesThe same thing happened to me. š
0 likesI know right I was like what is he being helped by a gray alien or Jason wearing a skin mask
0 likesBro same šš
0 likesDude š¤£š¤£š¤£ I'm SCREAMING
0 likeslmao it's pretty amazing
0 likesThatās what I was thinking!!!
0 likesItās like that poorly drawn robbery sketch that was posted on the news and they actually caught the guy.
0 likesš I was specifically looking for comments about how much they DONāT look alike! I wouldāve been NO help in locating her!
0 likesExactly. The sketch looks so ghoulish that it'd fit in the Addams family and then boom it actually matches.
0 likes1:48 the eyebrows are right on point
0 likesi was up here roasting the sketch only for her to be a cut and paste copy of it
1 likeMY REACTION EXACTLY !! š
0 likesSame šššš
0 likesš my exact reaction š¤£
0 likesThat sketch artist deserves a raise.
1 likeThey even got the eyebrows
1 like1:46 is the time stamp of the sketch for all of you peeps who are like me and prefer to listen instead of watch :))))
3 likesI said the same damn thing!! šš
1 likeSo funny... And true
0 likesLiterally my exact thought process.
0 likes@Collin Wood LMAO No they don't... If anything, those features is what the witness noticed, hence the attention to the features lmao... If they knew THAT much, why would they even need a sketch? You surely are a fool lmao
0 likesHoly fuck, I was the 39,000th like
1 likeyou havenāt seen enough junkies
0 likesoh sh#t that is too funny!
1 likeThe commenters in these creepy cases are somehow, some of the funniest on YouTube.
0 likes@iAstra
1 likeLol that's brilliant. I love that they gave the kid a certificate and everything.
Thanks for sharing.
Same
0 likesI thought the exact same thing
0 likesI laughed at the sketch and was thinking it was so bad and then they showed her mugshot and I yelled āDAYUMā whoever made that sketch needs a raise lol
1 likeOmg Iām dying because I literally thought the same thing!!!!!
0 likesHahaha
0 likesI didn't get the joke. It really doesn't look like her
0 likesTook the thought out my head lol!
0 likesSaw this comment before I watched the vid, skimmed through the vid to find the composite sketch, laughed my ass off and repeated several times.
0 likesThat sketch is creepy as fuck, I hate that I went back to look at it again
0 likesEXACTLY my thought!
0 likesthey purposely exaggerate certain features to trigger memory. it is so wild
0 likesLOOOOL. Exactly what I thought!
0 likesExactly, spot on
0 likesLmfao
0 likesLmfaooooo facts ššš
0 likes@sinbad656 o kaK
0 likesLmfao i thought i was the only one. Comment section never fails
0 likes@Collin Wood hm.. true
0 likes@B urr GIRL ME TOO
0 likesš
0 likesI had to go back and look at the sketch and let me tell you! Iām loling too hard
1 likeI said the same thing, i was actually very impressed
0 likesššš
0 likesThe artist did do a good job
0 likesTalented individual. To make it so accurate just from his mind.
0 likesSame š
0 likes1:46 Please thank me by liking this comment.
0 likes@Chris Hayes pound i
0 likesLiterally exactly the same just with more hair
0 likes@Brandon French right?! They were like "from the video you can see a woman between this and this age, this tall, this heavy, a ponytail" and I was like "How do you see all this?!" O-O š
0 likesSameeeee I was SHOCKED
0 likesIKR? I was like oh that actually kinda does look like her
0 likesWell they made her look like 20kg skinnier face wise, eyeswise it was a great job but i refuse to believe anyonr would recognise her on the streets passing by... although im guessing its more about someone familiar with her recognising the face and calling the feds, like a coworker, not some randoms
0 likesFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16ā¤ļø
1 likehahahaha, that's exactly what i was thinking. then three seconds later, bam.
0 likesYup š
0 likesLol
0 likesOk dude you now have the most likes I have EVER seen in a YouTube comment. Holy mother of God
1 likehahahahaha I thought the same exact thing š¤£
0 likesTimestamp?
0 likesI thought the same thing!
1 likeMy exact thoughts
0 likesRIGHT like I had to rewind it because I was so dumbfounded
1 likeFun Fact: these sketches are often drawn intentionally not to look like a real person because they put almost a cartoonish emphasis on the persons prominent features to make them more identifiable to someone who might only see them briefly. This is bc people who see the sketch are more likely to remember it if they look more bizarre and unrealistic.
0 likesHahah.
0 likesLmao was just gonna say, damn that drawing was surprisingly spot on
0 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£ comment of the year!!!
0 likes@Collin Wood Iāve never noticed that until this video. How they use the light gray heavily blended areas for the mouth and jaw shape because they arenāt very identifiable, but the bolded narrow eyes and brow shape draw your eyes towards it and stick in your memory.
0 likesSeeing her photo immediately after is so cool. Her eyes are the most identifiable part of her. I want to know how long it took, how many times the school worker had to describe her face and what words/phrases she used. How many drawings did it take until the witness saw this one and said it was spot onā¦ in any case, that artist deserves a fat raise.
Yup!
0 likes"I didn't...DO... anything"
2147 likesThe investigator:
"Wellllllll that's not entirely true......."
I love this detective omg
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@OSSS Boys bruh....smh read the room...
47 likes@Arlindo Melo nope just promoting his own videoā probably worse then rickrolling
10 likesāYou donāt know what to do as you sit here, shit, shake, or throw up, and to be honest it doesnāt matterāš¤£š¤£
1 like@OSSS Boys just delete your channel, that was honestly the most embarrassing thingbI can remember seeing on here and that's saying something. Putting a Chris Hansen clip at the end doesn't make you any less of a creep either.
3 likesI loved when the other one said he could have some food then brought the shit bag sweet fun all šššš
1 like@Kacper Kwidzinski š„ŗ
0 likes@JaggedBird why y'all hate me??
0 likes@OSSS Boys read what I wrote, then you'll get your answer.
2 likesIn the beggening, is that the famous detective that interrogated Russell Williams? It sounds like him.
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Yep, that's Jim Smyth.
1 likeI LOVE the lead detective. He doesnt care about the criminal or his "feelings."
712 likesHe cares about justice for that little girl, and that's exactly what this sorry excuse for a man will get.
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eh, both detectives are just playing different roles. They could easily switch roles if it was needed. neither of them care about the suspect and his feelings, they really only about the little girl and her family
120 likesFossil Friendly I know right?! Itās quite obviously a ploy. As if a detective working on such a sickening crime knowing the ins and outs of the case would feel anything but disgust for such a person.
22 likes@Fossil Friendly I understand the tactics they use. I watch videos like this all the time. However, I feel like there is no need to pander for a confession if they have secured hardvore evidence and gained search warrants like they claimed to.
1 like@Conroyrofl read my last comment.
0 likesThe fact that the first detective could leave anyone with the impression that he cared about that POS he was interviewing is testimony to how great a job the detective did. Very few of us could keep our composure and even pretend to treat that POS kindly and this detective has people thinking he genuinely cared. Whattaman.
22 likesThe other one doesn't either, it's all psychological...did you not watch the same video as me? š„“š¤¦āāļø
5 likes@Tanner Holmes They claim those things in an attempt to secure the confession. Did you not see that it took 3 years and then 10 weeks in court to secure a guilty verdict? A confession of guilt saves a lot of effort, time, and money.
7 likes@Tanner Holmes Pandering for a confession is ALWAYS necessary. Apparently you aren't aware of how important confessions are in a Court of Law. Once a suspect confesses, it's almost impossible for them to get out of it. Until he confesses, all they have to go off of is evidence, which no matter how damning, is still not the perpetrator admitting their involvement.
5 likes@Tanner Holmes You never know. The best evidence is a direct confession. There have been plenty of cases with rock hard evidence but the defence manage to weesle in reasonable doubt. The criminal can't get away through reasonable doubt if they have confessed to the crime.
1 likeTanner Holmes I agree with all of the above comments. Evidence isnāt the be all and end all, what you really want is a confession. He just wants to jail his ass the quickest, easiest way he knows how and if that means pandering to the guy then so be it. The detective really doesnāt give af about him.
1 like53.10 worth listening to the coppers does what we all want to do minus the pick axe to the forehead
1 likeSome People are actually sick
1 likehe's afraid of losing his life, but was willing to take another's so quickly. i just can't wrap my head around why shit like this happens...what drives people to view our young like this
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If we understood ourselves we would be doing it too .(
2 likes@ai nah that donāt sound right but a good way to look at it I guess I just have different thoughts as Iāve done shit like that too rebellious for a rush and Iām not a killer lol itās all about how they grew up and their mental health their brains looks completely different itās .. scary honestly like idk
5 likes@ai I also feel like itās different for differnet killers u know? Like the um gonzalez twins I could be totally messing the name up but they got life Iām pretty sure for killing parents who use to rap3 them idk itās just all sad and upsetting
1 like@Hannah B yeah its definitely different for everyone, im just mainly talking about this case and similar ones but i totally agree with you
2 likes@ai blaming porn for this crime feels as useless as blaming video games for school shootings. If you become motivated to commit a heinous crime after consuming a bit of casual entertainment media, something was very wrong with you to begin with. Do you realize how many people watch porn and don't become sexual predators?
13 likes@Hannah B ohhh the menendez twins
0 likes@OSSS Boys I don't get why you feel the need to promote your video here, a video about a kid getting killed by a sicko and you're here promoting ur channel, my gosh wtf
16 likesthats literally how everyone who kills someone is. every single one bud
0 likesI would like to here what psychologist say about him
0 likes@OSSS Boys some of the worst spam i have ever fucking seen my man
2 likes@adrian alonso bro leave me alone
0 likesI can sort of understand him. Well of course i can't, his brain is so ruined i can only comprehend some concepts. But the girl? She should burn in hell, she is crying about feeling bad. She at the very least knew a young child would be raped at her orchestration, yet she walked away.
0 likesI don't care how much you are abused yourself, you don't let something like that happen before your eyes.
Narcissism
0 likes@ai That's pretty wrong.
0 likes@A D im gonna be honest with you, yes! i do! im talking about people being addicted to it, so much so that it becomes repetitive and boring, and then leading to more sexual desires for something weirder like cp, gore, things like that. im not talking about every murderer ever, im talking about what i think this guys background is and how it could be similar to other murderers.
0 likes@kasa what is?
0 likesIt's an orientation, do all gay people choose to be so ? No for most or s lot they have no control over it, this is true of all attractions regardless of legality or morality
0 likesKilling and violence (unless in psychosis) isn't excusable, reasonable or justifiable, pretty much that's all there is too it
I love this channel but I canāt even watch this. Itās so horrible
1 likeThis detective is tough as steel. Like he is talking to someone who committed a sick and heinous crime and just casually sipping his Tims coffee
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Those guys are a different breed, most people would fight the urge to slam his head on the wall, no worries tho he surely got badly raped/beaten numerous times in prison and rightfully so, no prisoner takes kindly to a child killer/rapist
83 likes@Ricardo Huard to be harshly realistic, thats not what would happen. he would be secluded in a solitary isolated room with little food or water. for life he wont see a living being..he wont be allowed in the prison cus it wont just be that, its the fact that theyed do anything to kill him and will assualt police who hold them back. no prison, assylum, or medical hospital can hold him back. his life is gonna be more empty than his heart
40 likes@ItsMenyatical they will probably keep him in his own cell, but still in general population. they probably wont make efforts to keep him separated until he gets attacked.
6 likes@Choke well itll also depend on the prisons standards and what its known for. its its 100% obvious the peaple in there are gonna try and mangle/kill him then this could be used for any later case to the situation in the laws intellegence and the situation they forced his bearings on. so in this case the type of person he is would probs be put in a max security or solitary, only seeing more of 'his kind' *shudder*.
5 likes@ItsMenyatical Sometimes correctional officers "forget" to lock certain cell doors, and unfortunately, leads to inmates stumbling into unlocked cell.
13 likes@Lyle He's right though. Guys like this are usually big targets in prison, for good reason
4 likes@Jarred Keeting somebody has a ego
1 likehe also interrogated russel willliams, jcs also covered this in an unlisted video and he was just as badass and truly intellectual. he has been offered many book deals and lucrative offers, but he disagreed to them all and continued working. the real fucking deal and a prime example of what an interrogation should be. no shitty false confession tactics used, just pure fucking intelligence and artistry at his craft in the russel williams case
3 likes@Jarred Keeting yeh kinda think it's the point to bombard the suspect with conversation (whether it be one way conversation or not) that way it minimises the possibilities for them to think up stories or lies and will typically get them frustrated which in turn can cause them to slip up etc
0 likes@Jarred Keeting yeh I get that they didn't get the desired outcome of them coming clean and well dobbing themselves in for what they did but some people have a higher tolerance to keep their mouth shut I guess lol
0 likes@Jarred Keeting fortunately for this disgusting couple they were caught and were put away. Sadly it doesn't bring back the little girl though. Really never understood how and why anyone would want to do this to anyone. They're just not all there.
0 likesYeah he did say that heās spoken to so many people like Mike that he no longer cares anymore
0 likesI can't imagine the restraint required during situations like this.
0 likes@The MysticGod1587 he may have just said he doesn't care to the person who his trying to trick to let slip, you couldn't be in that position and not care about an 8 year old raped and murdered. Prison is to good of a sentence for these kinds of people and a bullet is to cheap and easy, they should suffer somewhat like their victims had to endure.
0 likesHe's SCARY good. Totally convinced he has supernatural powers. Thank the God's he uses them for good.
0 likes@ItsMenyatical he was transferred from maximum to minimal security prison, me thinks they want him to be attacked??
0 likes@Audrey stamm i imagine its gonna be a specialized cell. some prisons have a solitary confinement for worse or unsafe prisoners.
0 likesThatās What I Was Thinking Like The Detective Is Talking To Him Like Heās 5
0 likes50:30
278 likesā Do you know what a psychopath is Mike?ā
āNope. I never met one.ā
Without batting an eye, āWell, I met one tonight.ā
Savage level, infinity.
Fyi, after the first 3 minutes, there is barely any talking until 30 minutes in. The first 30 minutes(which was an hour and half if not sped up) is just the interrogator trying to make Micheal feel comfortable enough to talk, put on some pressure on but trying to go the friendly route to get Micheal to open up, going over the same things over and over, with Micheal crying and saying he didn't do it a few times. Around 34:00 is when the second detective comes in. Save yourself 30 minutes, after the first 3 barely anything happens, just the first detective trying to get Micheal to talk on his own.
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You wrote a fucking story
0 likesIt feels voyeuristic to watch these videos...
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Seek counseling
0 likesHow they can even fake nice to these kinda people is insane...
1 likeWell Police in Serbia had different methods, he would speak up as soon as he meets that everyone in jail want hes head.
0 likesI dont think 25 yrs is enough. For taking 60+ yrs from an innocent little girl and on top of that whatever discussing sexual things they did to her. Not even close.
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He got a life sentence, 25 years of it without parole. Doubt thereās a good chance he gets out though
267 likesWell it is Canada
75 likes@Nick W
153 likesHe should've been locked up with a sadist that hates pedos.
@ShayDale
6 likesSee my reply above
@Pitt Raider i hope cops and prosecutors sentence and ship people knowing what awaits these people. Maybe even a pizza party for the good ol prisoners who make life miserable or miserably end their lives.
7 likes@ShayDale he has a life sentence with the ability to be out on parole in 25 years and honestly he probably will be out in 25 years. He's already been moved to a minimum security prison. In Canada its not uncommon for a murderer to be back out on the street in 20 years. The prison system in Canada isn't like the US. If he was in the US he probably would have 3 or 4 life sentences with no chance of parole.
60 likesUnfortunately, that's what life in prison means in Canada.
2 likes@Tyson Rinker In sweden theyāre even more lenient, I was positively shook when I heard that the ufc fighter who raped and almost beat his ex gf to death got 46 to life! In the us. Here rapes get you close to nothing, if you get to a trial and get a sentencing at all, beating a girl almost to death gets you almost nothing. I hate how our law system works.
21 likes@Karolin it's also based on how much of a risk you are to the public and your prior record. That kfc fighter had violent prior offences and could easily kill a man bare handed, this guy is unlikely to ever get out they wave the possibility of parole after 25 like a carrot in front of u so u behave in prison otherwise u would just say fuck it and be terrible in the pen
13 likeshavent gotten to that part yet...i cant fucking believe this video ends w this monster getting 25 fucking years and not a life sentence in solitary
3 likes@skippygirl959 yes its Canada, not the Business States of America (with private prisons). Everyday im glad i live in Canada in not in usa
4 likesHe got life stupid, 25 years without parole. He won't leave that jail, very few do
5 likes@RileyQuinn I know wtf?
0 likesThereās no way this guy gets parole. A life sentence with parole is probably because technically he has no priors.
1 like@phoenix0282 so is everyone else...please stay in Canada
6 likes@Pitt Raider everyone hates pedos and plenty of people especially in prison will have sadistic tendencies towards them
4 likesHeās going to have an absolutely terrible time in prison lmao
@skippygirl959 Yeah, he might end up being friends with the prime minister.
0 likesNobody will disagree to that sounding like a short sentence, certainly not me. My dad is a corrections officer though and assured me where i live, 25 years is the max sentence but at the end of it, with being found guilty for something like this, they're either offed by other inmates within that time or spend the rest of their lives after time served being shuffled from one psychiatric "rehabilitation" to another (read:more prison) until they die. Even if by some miracle they are let out, they are never ever left alone by that system, the consequences will bite at their heels until their grave.
2 likes@ShayDale in Ireland the max is 25 years, like you could kill a family and all 25 year sentences would be stacked and then you are out
0 likes@Cotton Candy Kawaii Had to bring it to a political sides issue, didn't you xD
0 likeson paper 25 years sounds like nothing but if you think about it thats a long ass time
0 likesMaybe if he came clean and confessed showed remorse I could see parole 25 years. But yeah this guy had no remorse shouldn't see the light of day
1 likePrisoners in the US wouldnāt let him serve out his full sentence
2 likes@JointedSpagel Can we send jefferys cell mate to wherever this guys at?? I mean wtf
1 like@ShayDale That is life. He can't qualify for parole for 25 years.
0 likes@Tyson Rinker Not to mention McClintic being transferred to a healing lodge in Saskatchewan. It's min to med security. There's also question about whether or not she's actually Aboriginal. I remember there was a vote in parliament about overturning that but it was voted down. Those lodges exist for a legitimate reason. The fact she's abusing it like that is disgusting. Shows how remorseful she is.
1 like@Sergeant Fatts support for the death penalty inherently means supporting executing innocent people, just as supporting prisons means supporting locking up innocent people. I do support prisons still, but not the death penalty. Because you can let an innocent person out of prison...
0 likes@Sergeant Fatts in certain severe cases yes. But remember sometimes people lie about that to get someone in trouble or for attention.
0 likes@Byzantine Darkwraith using the death penalty requires "proof beyond all doubt", at least in theory. And it would logically allow for appeals, with stays of execution while the defendant goes through the motions.
1 like@Bob Thompson i think we can all agree that getting caught falsely accusing someone of a heinous crime should be harshly penalized
1 likeDeath only. Anything less is an injustice
0 likesHe's never getting out.
0 likesThe 25 year minimum for parloe in Canada is the "faint hope" clause. All murderers, 1st and 2nd degree, get life. 1st degree may be eligible for parole after 25 years minimum. 2nd degree 10-25 years before parole eligibility. Mainly there for the corrections officers, so that not all murderers have nothing to lose and therefore more likely to kill a CO. We haven't had the death penalty in Canada since the 1960s.
It means he has a chance to get out in 25 years ( Its deff a slim chance for it tho for what he did ) and if it makes you feel better , prison is horrible for pedos. So heās pretty much gonna get fucked up every day , thats at the very least 9000+ days of torture.
0 likesShayDale in Canada, 1st degree murder by law comes with an automatic life sentence, but something was created (I think itās called the āfaint hope clauseāāor something) that requires that after 25 years they be eligible for parole. Eligible, not by any means whatsoever guaranteed. So by the time he gets to 25 years, heāll be old, frail, and sick, and most likely every year applying for parole but getting denied and denied until heās dead
0 likes@Nick W 28 + 25 = ? you have a calculator right ? plus, he started appealing in 2010 already.
0 likesā@Mima Kiora Such unnecessary snark. Some people (like I was when I wrote that comment) are not aware that a life sentence is only 25 years.
0 likes@Mima Kiora No, 25 years *without parole. Please grow up
0 likes@Nick W will do, as soon as you grow some brain.
0 likesIn the Netherlands you get 5 years for rape if you're unlucky. Unless you're an illegal immigrant, then you get off with nothing. Reading cases like this boils my blood, when the judge is so lef... I mean 'insane' that they pretend that rape is acceptable in Islamic culture and that he didn't understand that raping a mentally handicapped girl was bad because of his background.
0 likesThereās 0 chance this guy will get out on his first parole opportunity. Even with immaculate behaviour itās still likely he will be placed on the dangerous offenders list and be in prison for life.
1 likeHe's never gonna see out side that prison walls.
3 likesMore like taking 88+ years from a child, she was literally eight!
0 likes@Lucas Bjƶrnsson truly an unthinkable crime...
1 likeItās a life sentence the parole part was 25 years, just need to listen more closely. šš¼
1 like@Christina does Canada release a lot of people once they go through the parole process?
0 likes@Bob Thompson ok I misunderstood what you typed itās hard sometimes over text, but dang chill out you sound so high strung , relax bro ā¤ļø
1 like@Christina your right it does suck over txt. It's just everyone on here has to tell me how his sentence is good enough or how it will work out and all I did was try to say theres not really a sufficient punishment for that crime that's not cruel.
1 like@Bob Thompson Iām with you. He shouldāve never left the police station ā¦
0 likes@The Eyes Have IT That's actually not how the justice system works. Death is maximum penalty (and, for poorer less developed nations, the cheapest), an eye for an eye is the maximum penalty, a hand for a hand is the maximum penalty, but people could easily settle for less than death, less than an eye, less than a hand. Settlements are inherently a part of the system, and if the family who lost their daughter are fine with a life sentence rather than the maximum death penalty, then it is justice served. This is the main problem with the death penalty being abolished...people couldn't seek the maximum justice if they truly desired it. A life sentence is no longer a freely chosen mercy by the wronged party, in comparison to death.
0 likesNot him getting sick š the theatrics
0 likesI have never felt such true and unadulterated hatred for a human being
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I agree! I feel the same!
2 likesI don't know how the investigator didn't reach over the table and punch him in the face.
4 likesI still feel like that about Casey Anthony. My blood boils when I think of her, which is in much. But, these people are right up there with all the other POS's that do things like this to innocent children.
1 likeHe doesn't deserve that Tim Hortons!
0 likesPolice: sir do you know why we pulled you over?
8292 likesMe after watching all these videos: I want a lawyer.
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Omg thatās me every time I watch one of these videos. I get paranoid that the police will start questioning everything I do.
324 likesHope TheBabes Iām fine now. Iām making myself look extremely suspicious arenāt I? I have nothing to hide
65 likes@Hope TheBabes that's complete and total bullshit. That's EXACTLY what the police will tell you too. It doesnt matter if you're innocent or guilty, if you're in a setting like this, ask for a lawyer. Period.
300 likesš right! Donāt say a WORD!
40 likes@NOFACE - good thing no one innocent has ever been convicted.
181 likesNOFACE - and thatās exactly why you need a lawyer, itās easy to say āmistakes happenā when youāre not the one paying for a crime you didnāt commit
182 likes@Sasha thank you.
18 likesSAME.
0 likes@Hope TheBabes Annnnd thats how false accusations have happened.
6 likesOmg I was just thinking the same thing
0 likesI started saying this when someone greets me.
12 likes@NOFACE - nope. telling the truth can hurt you too. dont say a thing
26 likesdont count on a lawyer, the best thing is just to say nothing.
3 likesNever speak to the police without a lawyer...innocent or guilty
21 likes@NOFACE - hahaha. No.
2 likesDon't talk to the police. Just give your ID (or tell him that you don't have it) and that's all you're required to do.
6 likes@Barney Clifton Tell that to the person who gets pulled over a mile away from a drifting spot just to be told he was chasing you from the parking lot and you were evading.
4 likesAll he wanted was a sorry even though he was lying, I could have said sorry or been arrested.. And I had a dash cam as backup for the "evasion" at least.
@NOFACE - Talking to police when your a suspect is always a good way to get yourself convicted
6 likesā@NOFACE - I would ask for a lawyer especially if i was innocent since I tend to be and idiot and i wouldn't know how answers could turned against me.
14 likesGood thing my dadās a lawyer. š
5 likesIt's a smart play. Maybe don't ask for a lawyer at the roadside, but you can fully enforce your right to remain silent. And, on the off chance you don't have the right to remain silent (such as before you've been arrested) answer all questions with "I don't know."
3 likes@NOFACE - Pretty sure it was sarcasm...
0 likesRight lmao?
0 likes@NOFACE - oink oink
0 likes@Ryan Barnes you know heās guilty though. I wouldnāt be able to keep it together if I was the detective
0 likes@Jake Rosendahl ohh shoot, what happened then?
0 likes@Kelvin For clarification it was a rare snow day for western washington and I wanted to take advantage of it with some stock Impreza fun. It was just my car and a friend riding along.
3 likesHe said he tried pulling me over right out of the parking lot, I saw him 1 mile later way behind me. He got close to me and turned his flashing lights off, I kept driving like normal hoping he'd leave. Pulled me over 3 miles later before I dropped my friend off at his place (kinda a back road). I said I didn't see him till a mile later a couple times not in a argumentative way but apologetically like "sorry I didn't see you till later" he got mad and said to stop lying so I just gave in and said sorry I won't do it again. After that I got some berating and he left me with a warning.
Given his accusations he could have arrested me for evasion, and if I didn't just say sorry he might have out of anger, can't say for sure but an apology was faster than finding out.
I plea the 5th
0 likeshaha seriously
0 likesEven if you go as a WITNESS, ask for a lawyer firsts and get informed of your rights and legal obligations
3 likes@Ryan Barnes Many, many innocent people have been convicted
2 likesI want a lawyer even if you know you were breaking the law? that sounds like a waste of time.
0 likesWould only be relevant in an interrogational context where the officer(s) didn't witness the underlying crime(s) in person. Depending on where you live, most parts of a traffic stop must be fully complied with because, upon other reasons, the officer initiating the traffic stop has almost always witnessed the pertaining factors directly.
1 like@Kevin flynn Yeah and if you're really unlucky you might get a cop who's just looking to incriminate anyone and get blamed for a crime you didn't commit. There's a video of such a cop on this same channel.
1 likeDon't talk to the cops. Ever.
0 likeshahahahahahhahaa this one was funny!!
0 likesšš comment section never disappoints
0 likes"Well, am I under arrest?"
1 like"No"
Drives away
@Little Bear lol yes it will
0 likesWas once pulled over by the police, and put in their van for my lights on my car
1 likeThey gave me the whole āYou do not have to say anything. But, it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.ā spiel and I was like wth. It's just some lights on the car!
Never been to court over it ofc. Got my lights changed the very next day.
Essentially I bought a Japanese import car, and the seller that I bought it from didn't change the lights to make them UK legal.
@Dis2good No, do say a word. Say clearly that you are invoking your right to remain silent, and you will not answer any questions. If you don't, the interrogation will go on, and they can even use complete SILENCE against you in court.
1 likeOn god manšš
0 likesAnd he gets a 2000$ bonus for every āOKā and āalrightā he adds at the end of each sentence
0 likesmy dads friend bought a brand new car off of a guy who, little did we know, was a drug dealer. when he bought it the car looked absolutely spotless, but then he was pulled over. cool right? they ask to search the car. in my dad's friend's mind he had just bought the car, he couldnt possibly get in trouble for something in it, so sure, they could search the car.
3 likeswrong. there were unprescribed xanax in the floor, and he was charged with possession of a controlled substance. he lost his license for 15 years.
always say you do not consent to any searches
Just ask them a question back and no should be your go to answer, like no,am I under arrest?
0 likesExactly.. you never talk to the police without a lawyer.. chances Are if your in an interrogation room your a suspect... 75% if not more of convictions come from people talking too much
0 likes@Lunk Do you know which video that is?
0 likeswhere's my donut?
0 likes@Taigirr I just want my coke.
0 likesRight!!!
0 likesIt's a vicious cycle of "Why are they talking??" then.. "Well, smart people don't do this shit.."
0 likesLMFAOAOAOA
0 likesLol me too. Never ever speaking to the police
0 likesEven better, ask for a coke, a butterfinger and a lawyer
0 likesThis gave me a good belly laugh just now. Thanks.
0 likesCanāt watch this one š
3 likesI feel more supported by this detective interrogating a child murderer than I ever have by my parents
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lmfao
4 likesIf true, Sorry to hear that.
43 likesMeans he did his job well.
17 likesFucking same, yikes
9 likeshe got nothing done .
0 likesMy fatherās family in the 70ās their child was raped murdered and left under the front porch. The men that committed the crime were found within weeks, no one revenging the death of the child went to jail
8 likesBorderline therapist
2 likes@Nonna what happened to the men ?
8 likes......ikr
1 likeDamn, and he wasn't even talking directly to you. I hope.
0 likesDamn!
0 likesSpeaking of the insulting one? yea same
0 likesThe police have to act a certain way. They have to maintain professionalism and they could not lie in these interrogations. These tapes are clearly recorded and may be used in court. Would you want a violent police physically hitting the unarmed and cornered criminal be shown to a judge and jury? At best, the criminal could get a less harsh sentence because the police abused their power in the interrogation. Best? The criminal case is thrown out altogether and the criminal doesn't get sentenced.
0 likesOnly in Canada.They got 25 years, but are able to apply for parole at that timeā¦ Joke..
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They got life in prison with the chance of parole after 25 years. Doesn't mean they're gonna get it, he probably won't but the girl has a chance if she's on good behavior the entire time.
0 likesThe audacity to sit there and have an attitude after what heās done is sickening
139 likesIf an investigator tells you "We all make mistakes," you're screwed.
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lmfaooo
1 likeAsk aboot theirs
6 likesIf this was in syria he would've been being skinned alive in this video slowly
0 likesThe fact that that woman heard that child pleading for help and she ignored her cries is bone chilling.
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i am... 3 mins in... almost 4 min.... and its hard to press the play button again.
28 likesand yet... i feel the need to know what horrors are happening in the world. :'c
It turned out that she was actually the one murdering the child. She confessed to the crime while in prison.
67 likesi "finally" watched it 1 day later... and i gotta say it was less horrible than i even imagined... which is "funny" since the investigator sais "what people imagine is often worse"?
6 likesedit: ...sorry i cant explain well what i mean. and it is unimportant towards the horrors that ended brutally sad a young life.
@John V after watching the video fully i now understand why she did it? ... the investigators said she was jealous(angry)......?
9 likes@This is what happens Larry!
15 likesEither the main motive was jealousy or she was acting under the influence of the man.
Itās disgusting, how could she let him rape and murder her while she called her name for help ? Both of them are monsters for what they did pure evil
35 likes@John V or both... its sickening x_x
3 likes@Gina Pineda absolutely!
0 likesāThe fact that thatā
0 likes@Gina Pineda They are monsters, but she was also a teenager who was groomed by a man in his late 20s. He got with her when she was a minor. There's no question in my mind that she's where she belongs, but there also is no question that had she never met him, she would never have turned into the monster she became.
2 likes@Amelia Bee I'm pretty sure in her trial, they brought up an incident of her microwaving a dog to death as a child. She was raising red flags before he sunk his claws into her.
6 likes@Amelia Bee Well she also apparently attacked her mom making her partially blind and stabbed someone
6 likes@R Thoreau When did I ever say or imply that it does? I just pointed out that he wasn't the thing that caused her to be despicable.
1 likeAnd she was the one that took her there on the promise of seeing a puppy.
1 like@Re TRAC I was groomed did not turn into a cold murderer she is like that because it is our natural nature not coz she was groomed
2 likes@Healing and Growth -INFP First off sorry to hear that, I was saying she did those things as further evidence this incident wasn't really about her being groomed because she did those before she met the guy
0 likesLiterallyā¦she could have just not gotten any child. She is sick for that.
0 likesBruh that precinct needs new chairs
1 likeisn't that the same detective that interrogated Russel Williams? Sure sounds like him!
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Wtf serenity what u doing here ššš
5 likesWhy arenāt you verified?!?
2 likesIn India they would make even the stones to talk......what a shame the monster is just put out with other monsters in jail. Shameless laws
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Then after the stones talk they will throw them at his face until he stops breathing. Yay India! By the way ...oh the food is amazing! I go to the Indian restaurant frequently!
0 likesIāll never be able to forget Terry describing Tori on his lap crying for help. I canāt get the visual out of my head and I am sick with grief. That poor girl. Bless the people on this case for finding this piece of crap. This detective is especially awesome
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@CryptoCred I almost vomited when I read your comment. How sick does someone have to be to do that to a little girl?
59 likes@Victoria Von Heals she had to be so scared :( begging for the female stranger who abducted her to come help. So wrong
29 likes@CryptoCred i agree, rapist need to be gillotined
21 likes@CryptoCred It makes me sick just thinking about it.
6 likesThat's desgustind. it lets me so sad. Fuck, man, she had a life ahead of her and that happened ;(
6 likesToo bad Terry was the killer. She admitted it and tried to throw the dude under the bus to get a lesser sentence. Didnt exactly work.
14 likesImagine now her parents must feel. Just awful and worst of all is what the little girl had to endure
4 likes@Bryan Gaytan why stop there?
0 likesHow do these things not register in peoples head I canāt even imagine letting that happen
0 likesš if you guys love JCS then, you should check out āDaveās Lemonadeā. š
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Can he swim?
1 like@Daniyal_Darko haha š
0 likesHe fr said you ain't built for this shit lmaoo
0 likesHeās acting like a child.
1 likeThis mans pity for himself is disgusting
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you can tell every tear he shed was only for himself and it really makes my blood boil. even after all that grilling near the end, he showed no emotional reaction that would hint at remorse for what he did. he only felt guilty for getting caught and he only holds sympathy for himself.
85 likeshe had no mercy for his victim, which makes it even more disgusting.
43 likesLove your channel pic tho
2 likes@alan caprock there's a morbid entertainment in watching the absolute worst sides of humanity. people don't watch true crime media out of sympathy for the criminals, it's honestly a bit weird that you would think that.
15 likes@alan caprock Wtf are you talking about? Their comment wasn't about the quality of the video itself, it was a comment about how disgusting the criminal is. Is he only supposed to watch the video if he enjoys the way the criminal acts
6 likes@Charles Vandevoir
0 likesThe detective playing the role of "bad cop" towards the end of this video makes little effort to hide his disdain for this twerp... I don't know what the Canadian correctional facilities are like but in the states an inmate would definitely get him at some point. I've done some work for the Illinois prison system so I've had some long conversations with correctional officers.
@alan caprock hilarious bait my dude.... laughed my ass off... no, really
1 likehis sniffling pisses me off. canāt believe this fool acted a helpless little deer after what he did
0 likesThat first detective could get a confession out of a brick wall holy hell.
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Apparently not
29 likesIām picturing him staring at a brick wall. āWhy did you do it? Where is the girl?ā Lmao.
50 likesNeither detective accomplished anything
9 likesBut he didn't in this case
4 likesThe interrogator comes across as insincere, manipulative, and entirely too smitten with the sound of his own voice. His "technique" seems certain to make a suspect clam up. The only "mental fatigue" he induced was that of sheer boredom.
9 likes@Sauntox no need for disrespect
1 likeThe detective doesn't stop talking long enough to get a confession lol
12 likesThis comment is weird. They completely botched this interrogation.
4 likes@What about Bob facts lol
1 likeIkr he's soooo boring to listen to, he's in love with his voice, extremely sympathetic yet extremely factual and also very intellectual with his consistent smart choice of words. But I wish I could "turn back the clock" and save myself from his rambling lmao. Realistically this is all a ploy to get the victim to get so bored he confesses haha. Also mental fatigue. The "distraction effect" is also very useful as stated, he keeps talking and talking so the interogatee can't form coherent thoughts.
3 likesWell he didn't get the conffesion out of this guy so nop
1 likeIt is because of dexterous officers like this that there are so many false confessions in our criminal justice system.
4 likesHe is superb.
1 likeWell, itās a bit easier for Canadian detectives because unlike America, Canadians donāt have the right to remain silent. Theyāre silence can be used against them in court. If, while being interrogated, the suspect says āI want a lawyerā, it wonāt stop anything. The interrogation will continue, and if you remain silent in the interrogation room, theyāre gonna play that back in court to try to make you look bad. Theyāll play it off like āif heās innocent why wonāt he answer simple questions? Must be hiding somethingā.
0 likesIn America thereās no such thing, in America as soon as a suspect says āI want a lawyerā, the cops have the end the interrogation. Silence canāt be used against a suspect in America.
Man I hate when they say it's a mistake u made no is stupidity I haven't ate man I would starve him cause the person he killed ate going to eat coward š
1 likeThat's Detective Jim Smith.......he has the patience to talk to a suspect for 10+ hours if he needs to in order to get the confession....he's the best!
0 likesOK
0 likes@Sam I am well heās having an off day here then
0 likesDid I miss the confession? Lol
0 likesThis detective could make me admit to my wife's murdered. Btw, my wife is alive and fine. And complaining lol
0 likesSomething doesnāt sit right with the phrase āholy hellā. Arenāt then kinda the opposite?š
0 likes@Andrz06 oxymoron right there
0 likesThis guy has practiced interrogation a lot.
447 likesBy himself.
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He sounds like one of those people who create arguments in their head so he can prepare and predict how interrogations might go
42 likes@ColdSlayer 300 honestly he did a amazing job. He's expert in breaking the murderer psique
3 likesHe's literally bombarding him, he doesn't need evidence. He just needs him to explain why
1 like"You ever met a psychopath, Mike?"
1229 likes"No."
"Well I just met one tonight."
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YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
8 likesThe Who plays*
5 likesTimestamp?
2 likes@Man Yor 50:29
4 likes@Norwelly thanks!
1 like@Cup_Fox you gotta be kidding.
14 likes@ZetPham Well I'm sorry for having empathy towards a human being, I guess. This man deserves to be punished for sure. I just said, I find THAT was unnecessary.
0 likesthe "suspect" actually made a fair point there when he complained that he got picked up by the police and told he did it, thats how it goes, without apparently given the proper chance to explain himself. This reminds me of another video on this channel, where an innocent man being in the wrong place at the wrong time was put in the same situation ( "You were it, we have enough proof, there is no point in arguing you did it, I only want to know why and what people helped you with it etc..." ).
1 like@Cup_Fox they do that to pressure them
4 likesMmkay
0 likes@Leader of Bears No he doesn't do that in the end. 47:37
0 likes@Cup_Fox Yo @FBI keep an eye on this one. JCS you might get to make a video about ole cup_fox one day
7 likes@Cup_Fox š¤”š¤”š¤”
1 like@Cup_Fox albeit Chris apparently prefers to be aggressive in order to enhance his opinion, you have to understand here that the Cop does act according to a strategy to make the suspect confess. And that strategy is getting emotional. His thinking and evaluation of the situation is (or rather should be) rational and planned.
3 likes50:29 GOLD
0 likesHoly shit that detective would drive me nuts, he talks more than some blogger teenager.
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cry about it
0 likesRespect to the people in law enforcement. Imagine having to put up with this kind of degenerate people your whole life. I'd go insane or depressed.
59 likesThis dude must be getting super violated in jail.
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We can only hope
2 likes@Barwar so how do child molesters get murdered in prison? Ghosts? Fantom killers? Please explain prisoner
0 likes@Chris P they stay in gen pop. this rarely happens though
0 likesI'm Canadian and hearing someone actually say we all make mistakes thats why pencils have erasers is the most Canadian thing I've ever heard
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Is that why curling has brushes?
2 likesDetctive: you're not that guy pal
0 likesIn a cage 4 ever solitary confinement or he can come over for a quick swim, grÅrrr.
0 likesPlot twist: He wanted to tell him everything the whole time but was just waiting for a break in the conversation
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Seriously, this guy was like a fountain of information and knowledge on the topic... Like if Bret the Hitman Hart had a psych degree.
66 likesHalf way through watching this I started confessing to stuff I didnāt even do just to get him to stop saying the same thing over and over again making me think Iām going insane! šš
129 likesWell.interrupting is gross
8 likesLmfao for real
4 likesThat actually made me lolš¤£š¤£š¤£
7 likesI know, right? The guy couldnāt get a word in edgewise
20 likesThat's exactly how I felt for the first 40 minutes!!
12 likesCriminal couldn't get in a word edgewise.
lmao but honestly tho if the guy wanted to confess he wouldāve , he just chose not to cause there were some times when mike started saying stuff and the interrogator stopped talking for a min
16 likeswhen I click like it goes to 1K when I remove it it goes to 999 I can add and take away the K :D 1000th like
6 likesYou forgot to put "all right" at the end of the sentence š¤£š¤£
3 likes@Baily Zeller sometimes I thought I skipped back by 10 seconds, cause he repeats the same set sentences in a row lol
3 likesThis guy loves to hear his own voice. Very annoying.
3 likesI thought it was just meeeee
2 likes@š°š ššššššš šššš I wanna be a DECIIIDER- Little Bushš¤£
3 likes...uhhhh... ...hahahahaha ?
2 likesIts all part of the plan
2 likes@Purple Banana st least someone have common sense. He literally explained why he is rambling on. This is to not give the suspect any time to think straight. To keep the suspects mind racing. Yet again that's why people rarely pay attention.
1 likeThis crime breaks my heart for that poor little girl.
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And her parents... OMG. This is unimaginable.
17 likesi'm holding back my tears, i cannot imagine the pain and horror ... IstgfrAllah
2 likesSo very sad.
0 likesIt really pisses me off how these child predators act like cowards when they get caught. Every time they end up crying and demanding to be treated like they are innocent respectable humans. The audacity!
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@L. Buds no. they deserve worse.
8 likesThey are cowards, that's why they prey on children.
7 likes@clare d Taking pleasure in the suffering of others is the first step to the perversion of justice. Offenders like this should be coldly and callously dispensed of (bullet to the head) and forgotten.
14 likesI get where you're coming from, but when we deal with people whom we know are monsters, we should be careful to prevent corrupting ourselves.
I d'make them eat their liver
0 likes@EasyFinance It costs far more to execute people in the US.
2 likes@QuasiELVIS you wanna tell me that one execution cost more then one person a lifelong in prison?
0 likes@EasyFinance It's the process that costs more, not the execution itself per se.
0 likesIt's not just a bit more either, it's a LOT more.
@EasyFinance no theyāre right. The appeals process, getting the lawyers, case reviews, etc cost a lot of money. And we have that in place bc innocent people have been executed and we are trying to prevent that from happening again.
0 likes@TTV_MrJack I'm glad I don't live in a medieval country like the US where Death Penalty is even an option to begin with. No one deserves death or at least no human/goverment should be alowed to decide that.
1 like@Royalgamer7 Each to your own, but someone who rapes and murders a child for joy. Should 100% be put down like an animal. Because that is not a human-social behavior. It is unnatural. Capital punishment isn't in my country of Australia, which is mostly good. But for few things, they should have exceptions.
0 likes@TTV_MrJack The only purpose the DP serves is quelling the outrage of idiots. It's a pretty bad reason if you ask me.
0 likes@QuasiELVIS Well what else can be done? because odds are they'll die in prison. Then they'll need to be isolated for safety. Isolation just makes people go crazy, that's not a punishment because they might forget what they've done wrong.
0 likesNot many options, besides just keep em safe and confined in prison. With some nice books to read, free food and rent.
@TTV_MrJack "Not many options, besides just keep em safe and confined in prison. With some nice books to read, free food and rent."
0 likesFine by me. Prison is pretty lame, especially shithole American prisons.
@QuasiELVIS That lifestyle is better than what most Americans can afford and they get it for free.
0 likesImagine how much professionalism it takes to sit there and talk to it like it is a human being
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I couldnāt do it. The temptation to beat him to within an inch of his life would be too much.
137 likesIām sorry, but when you called him an āitā, all I could think of was āSilence of the Lambsā.
35 likes@Did Jesus have a cat? so long as you let me have a turn, I wonāt tell ;)
21 likesits pure professionalism u put ur emotions on the side and think logical and when u got him u can let some emotions out
18 likesI was thinking the same thing
0 likes@Demarkil It's not that we don't know that he is objectively human or that human beings are capable of such heinous crimes. But that to be human and what sets us apart from the rest of the animal kingdom is our ability to have and be moral. When op used the term "human" they are referring to human civility. Most human being are capable of basic moral behavior or an understanding of it. So to treat him as a civilized human being is to treat him with humanity when he acted in ways that are uncivil and contrary to what is healthy and normal human behavior. When he is outside of the norm of what is healthy and normal human behavior by choice he becomes inhuman.
14 likes@Shaundra Evans Humans are not the only creatures with a moral compass. Other animals display rudimentary signs of emotional empathy similar to ours. And many humans do immoral things all the time.
10 likesAnd if you want to get into a deeper discussion of ethics and free will, there are many more complexities to add. Let me state that I do believe in accountability regardless of mental state or circumstances. I don't argue for treating someone like this with less than the severity needed to find out what he's done and to prevent him from doing it again.
But to say that some people simply "choose" to act in a way that disqualifies them from the label of being human - that is a sloppy argument which leaves your intellect open to undermining and exploitation by others with ill intent.
@Demarkil damn you made me think about all of the heinous shit humanity has done sinceā¦ like forever. Iāve officially lost my faith in humanity.
2 likesI worked corrections for 5 years I worked with rapists murderers child molesters thought I saw everything till my best friend of almost 9 years came back through gate 5 in cuffs the man had been forcing his 4 year old daughter to "play sex" as she put it. I had to be temporarily transferred to another jail cause I knew if I ended up in his section for even a millisecond I would have killed ended up killing himself after his sentencing to prison.
2 likes@Lucky Man I don't believe in humanity as a single set, but there are many good humans, from many different backgrounds. The most amazing thing in about life is how many people still hold to what is good in spite of what they've been through and what is going on around us every day.
2 likesā@Dante Skullcrusher I'm so sorry to hear that, it must have been hard to see such horror reach out an plant itself inside your personal circle. It is always harder to bear when it's closer to you, and to think that you've been friends with a monstrous person. The earth shifts and all the things we take for granted seems like mist in the sun. I'm glad your work superiors could keep you from doing something that would have hurt your own life and family, even if I understand your want to kill that man 100%.
1 like@Lars Kullberg I think the principle of the death penalty can be argued for on an ethical basis, yes. However, when we apply it in reality we run into problems, because our justice systems are as imperfect as the people who made them, and certainty is never completely certain. We would execute innocent people, this happens all the time in those jurisdictions that apply capital punishment. And I think the argument that someone ought to be killed because they refuse to admit guilt is a very dangerous one that could, would and has been used to execute innocents.
1 like@Demarkil "....our justice systems....is never completely certain." What about DNA- and fingerprint comparisons? Your credibility is at stake here, so be careful what you answer.
0 likes@Demarkil "Other animals display rudimentary signs of emotional empathy similar to ours." As far as we know, animals have no conscience. So unless you can prove that your claim is true, there is no reason to believe it is. Also, you label humans as animals. But praise God, we are not animals. Have never been and will never be.
0 likes@Demarkil "....a system incorporating capital punishment run by your standards would execute innocent people in heaps and droves." You should know better than that, because DNA and fingerprint comparisons are reliable means for tying scum of the earth, like rafferty, to their crimes. ThatĀ“s undeniable, whether you accept it or not makes no difference.
0 likes@Lars Kullberg your line of thinking is extremely simplistic and dangerous
0 likes@Nano Nano So you say. But unless you support your opinion with credible evidence, who cares?
0 likesTis is how you get conviction and better sentencing for criminals.
0 likes@Lars Kullberg Ja du, Lasse. Nu gick du igƄng ordenligt. Du kan ju lƤsa pƄ sjƤlv, tror inte jag kan ƶvertyga dig om nƄgot hƤr.
0 likes@Call Me Angie there are lots of "its"....they are simply Covert.
0 likesAnd not punching him to death
0 likes@demarke animals do not have a moral compass , they have instinct and nothing more
0 likes@Demarkil WhatĀ“s your name? Are you Danish? Sorry friend, the name of that country is Denmark, not Demarkil.
0 likes@PMP90California I know we, as species, are animals, but he's worse than that
0 likes@Lars Kullberg Ahahahaha, this is A grade entertainment at this rate! Do you have anything else to dazzle us with, this is just smashing!
0 likes@Demarkil Well put man.
1 like@Demarkil ā...leaves your intellect open to undermining and exploitation with ill intent.ā
2 likeslmao did you have a word count you were trying to meet
This guy Michael Rafferty is proof that in some extreme cases the death penalty is absolutely warranted even in civilized nations.
1 like@Frog I'm very sorry for the way I think and speak. I should change. For your sake.
1 likethere is no dope in my mind
0 likes@Did Jesus have a cat? What makes you any different than Micheal who beat a little girl to death?
0 likesā¦ it would take a lot of grit and guts to keep professional and not want to take a claw hammer to this pos - hats off officer.
1 like@Dante Skullcrusher ā¦. WOW, thatās heavy. You must have drawn deep within to gain strength to put emotion aside, preventing yourself from becoming another of his victims. I bet you wanted to smash his head in for doing that to his little girl.. you wouldnāt stand alone in that!
0 likesIt wasn't Rafferty who actually killed and mutilated her. Rafferty sexually assaulted her and she was meant to be dropped off. It was Terri Lyn who went nuts and savagely murdered the girl. She's admitted as much from behind bars,
0 likesPerfect comment!
0 likes@mikey Haaich Iām a kind hearted person Michael š
0 likesMan doing that shi to a child wtf
1 likeHow does a parent go on in life after losing their child in such a horrific way? The strength it would take to continue on in life, I don't think I'd have it in me.
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ive never contemplated suicide but many parents in this situation do
31 likesI was thinking the exact same thing. Knowing the pain and terror she felt before dying....that would kill me
67 likesMy thoughts too, gave my toddler an extra tight cuddle after seeing thisā¦
55 likesMy heart goes out to those parents
I truly believe the parents should be allowed to take the option of torturing and killing this person. Itās not fair just to have him rotting in protective custody.
61 likesThe only way I could even think about 'moving on' is if I were able to 'hand out justice' the the person, rather than him getting a blanket, donut, coffee and granola bar.
29 likesPeople who hurt kids deserve to be hurt, NOT getting a 'free ride' in prison. Go ahead, I dare someone to tell me I'm wrong. I dare someone to make a case for the criminals deserving a trial and to get jail time. š”
@EndoKrin Sadly, you are wrong... The kids just recently became these angel-like beings. In history, 10 year old boys went to wars.
3 likes@Power, So you accepted the challenge, huh? Lol.
4 likes@Jasmine London absolutely, I don't think I could live a productive life afterwards..I wouldn't be able to stop thinking about what my kid had to endure in their last moments of life...It would kill me.
10 likes@Power Of Berzerker I agree completely, if you steal another person's basic human rights by taking their life- your basic human rights should be taken too! No privileges, nothing!
7 likes@Jckagcm You should watch the movie Prisoners
1 likeI couldn't carry on without my own child. Knowing what happened. I just couldn't do it.
3 likes@Jckagcm I totally agree with you!
1 like@EndoKrin yes for sure 110%
1 like@Power Of Berzerker wtf are you even talking about. Seems you've got screws loose in your head.
7 likesI know a mother whose eldest child (21 yo at the time) killed her other two children out of jealousy. She lost three, two by the hands of the one that now is living in prison and will do so for the rest of his life. Overall, I'm actually surprised that she still went on.
5 likes@SĆriocaz wow that's just so terrible..there's really not a strong enough word for describing how that would feel for a mother. Its incomprehensible to me how anyone could carry out murder, especially children.
4 likes@EndoKrin everyone being savage just reduces all of us. Itās unlikely that handing out justice would feel as good as you would like to think.
1 like@EndoKrin most people don't believe in corporal punishment- until it's there own loved one that's been murdered.
1 likelitterally why im scared to have children, like i would litterally not be able to cope if something happened to them , knowing how fucked up the world is .
1 likeI cant even imagine. It's my biggest fear, that one of my kids will happen upon this kind of monster. It gives me so much anxiety. I dont even like to think what I'd do.
2 likes@seacowxxx it scares me too! I hope with everything I have it doesn't, and our babies come home safe every day xx
2 likesHumans are capable of amazing things. We have resilience, and we have one another. Those two can enable folks to push through things we can't even imagine.
0 likesEspecially when it's put on YouTube for you to relive it every day
1 likeJesus, family & therapy
1 like@ISAIAH SMITH Agreed
0 likesYeesh, the difference between American and Canadian interrogators are like night and day.
0 likes"Get rid of your f'ing security blanket and be a man."
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"Is that what you said to Tori before you killed her" is what got me
187 likes37:05
89 likesOr when he said "you haven't even eaten your doughnut yet" I'm sorry but that one got me.š¤£
94 likes@Callum Mcneill dude, I love you
19 likes@Lucky_ro 04 youāre welcome
10 likesThey need to rename him Detective Burns š„
10 likesBut my toesies are cold!!
3 likesI think if that guy interrogated him from the beginning he could've had him talking or confessing his crime.
4 likesI couldn't be a detective. How can you sit across from someone like that and resist hurting them? I wouldn't have the willpower.
7 likesOk
0 likesSecurity blankets are manly right?
1 like...
right?
Say that to someone with anxiety
0 likesDamn why you look so cute?
0 likes@anonymous 123 what?
0 likes@BigBrainGaming awh thanks
1 likeHe was doing something under that blanket
1 likeThis interrogator has SO MUCH PATIENCE. I could never be in his job or position bc Iād probably finish that whiney bastard
2 likesIt got AMAZING once second interrogator enteredšš½ i shit bricks
0 likes@Google Inc. lol that thought went through my head too š¤®
0 likes@TunefulDuck Karate the care for the suspects anxiety is gone when he murdered an 8 year old
2 likes@BigBrainGaming down astronomical
1 liketimestamp?
0 likesāYou havenāt touched your dƶnutā lol
0 likesAfter years of trying, i have a 3.5 years old daughter. When i come home after work, the moment she runs towards me literally means the world to me. Watching this video made me cry like a child.
102 likesThis is a very very sad world we live in.
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It sure is. š„ŗš„ŗš„ŗ
5 likesGod bless. you sound like a good parent.
5 likes(I know you already do but) take good care of her, keep her safe, teach her self defense.
3 likesI'm a new father of a baby girl and this stuff hits different when you're a parent. Now it's a whole other level of horrible.
1 likeWOOOOO ITS BACK
0 likesMy cousin William has been to prison before and he talks about how if you killed or raped a child theyād make your time there HELL. I hope those bastards are getting some good punishment.
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I was in the drunk tank once for underage drinking and they basically put everyone there who just came in, drunk or not. This lady came in and someone in there whispered that she was there for child abuse and the room got very cold and weird and then she was promptly removed and put by herself. The girls in the corner told me they were discussing what to do with her before that.
1 likeYep. Guards work with inmates to ensure they get what they deserve which i usually wouldn't condone but those who harm children deserve it. End of story
2 likesUnpopular opinion: the prisoners who have killed rapist, pedophiles, (ext) should be released.
2 likesFucking hell
0 likesWhat a fucking monster
"You haven't even touched your doenut"
0 likesImagine having an interrogator specialist as a dad man that would blow
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Yeah, that and a psychologist lol
66 likesThe kid would have to rnd up with a law degree
34 likesI am but my kid's smarter than me.
32 likesLmao what would be better ? A smacked out roofer?
3 likesit sucks and when I watch these videos I keep getting freaked out he's going to find my homework folder and the programming socks bag
6 likesthey genuinely build anxiety and yet I keep watching them since train wrecks are things I can't avoid encountering or looking at
@Thought Criminal Ouch! The hostility.
21 likesCiera Bayly Should I be more polite to somebody lying their asses off? Correct me, if so.
1 likeHis voice is so annoying. That monotone voice is snapping me.
0 likesI read that way different than you intended it
4 likesuse commas
1 likeThought Criminal lmfao
0 likesThought Criminal u know it all bro.
0 likesTry having a counselor/nurse as a mum my teenage angst phase was almost planned out
2 likesWell, if you are open and honest then it wouldnāt be bad. I donāt think I lied to my mom when I was in high school. She trusted me and let me do more things because I was open and honest and careful. In return, I trusted her and felt safe with her. I was comfortable calling her to pick me up from a party when I was 18 because the person that brought me there was drinking a lot. She didnāt get mad at me and she was glad I called and happy to get me. I called her to get me when my friends were doing illegal things when I was 17 as well. She was just proud I called and she loved me.
9 likesHonesty and trust are important.
@Yummy Mcyums no
0 likesššššššš this the one. My dad is the mild version of this
0 likesCan confirm- does blow.
0 likes@jeteaze
0 likesThat's really cute, i'm glad for you.
Only if you've something to hide cassie...
0 likes"son, did you finish the last of doritos"
1 like"no"
dad I'm about to end this man's whole career.
Even worse, imagine having a dad that watched this channel and thought he was basically a real interrogator.
2 likesLol
0 likesstill the better option at the table Iād say...
0 likesImagine having a girlfriend whose father is an interrogator.
0 likes@Thought Criminal I was about to say that too šš
1 likeA mother of a friend of mine was of this occupation. She falsely accused another friend of something, and made him, a 19 year old man, cry after an hour of intense interrogation. She was a machine.
0 likesU know my dad!? š³
0 likesMy dad is a trained hostage negotiator so I know the feeling
0 likesWell its always tougher when its personal. Like when people give good advice but never take their own.
0 likes@John Barber No
0 likes@Yummy Mcyums no
1 like@Chris Buckley I do not Chris.
0 likes@Bradley Burr okay Bradley
0 likes@Linda Niemkiewicz spot on hahahah im cracking up
0 likesNah he would raise a child well to be a virtuous person.
0 likesJason Volkanov a cop? Doubt that sorry
0 likesI would gladly have a good father
0 likesBelieve me. It does suck! I never got away with anything š© And talking to him always felt like an interrogation
0 likesIf only they can think about the consequences before they do shit like this. So disgusting.
0 likesGotta respect the defense lawyer. He know Michael did it, he knows the case can't be won, but he's right. Everyone has a right to a public defender, and even when the client deserves endless torture for their actions, he still steps up and does his job like a professional.
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I agree. Everyone deserves due process. So justice can be served as equally and justically as possible.
66 likesI was looking for this comment. I agree too. It leaves me uneasy though, because that "chance" becomes ingenuine if the defense is lying, and they probably have to, usually.
29 likesDisagree. Where the evidence is clear, these despicable thugs deserve nothing but pain.
11 likes@James Nnabuihe Then only have issues with crooked lawyers
3 likesYea because the nation was built on āinnocent until proven guiltyā
8 likes@Sarls plenty of crooked DAs as well.
3 likes@James Nnabuihe The defense lawyer is there to make sure the prosecutor trap or fully justify why their client should be in prison, It's their job to make sure they are air tight.
18 likesYa. I imagine the lawyer wanted to jump up clapping when hearing guilty.
4 likes@Stefan And if they're truly guilty, that's exactly what they'll get at the end of a fair trial.
13 likes@Stefan
9 likesNope. Know why? If the defense attorney thinks "this guy is obviously guilty and did something so repulsive I'm not going to do anything to defend him", the creep goes free or gets a new trial due to improper representation.
The defense attorney has to put up a legitimate defense. Even if hes guilty the defense should bring up mitigating circumstances, such as "he suffered childhood abuse" or whatever.
In cases like this the purpose of the defense isnt to get him free. They are trying to give him a fair trial and weigh all evidence on both sides, so that if the creep ever comes out and says "I was improperly convicted, the defense didnt defend me" the law can review the trial, and say no, you got a fair trial.
Emotionally we look at these cases and say that guy is worse than an animal. He deserves the worst torture.
But the law is supposed to be unemotional.
ā@Fbai I love how you worded this. They're not always trying to prove innocence, they're also making sure no injustices were done in the process, everything's airtight like you said, and they've had EVERY opportunity at fairness. After that it's sometimes trying to get the best deal possible for their client.
8 likesSo horrifying and so deeply heartbreaking I canāt even imagine what the family must feel. A sweet innocent little child
79 likessome people don't realize that the downplaying the detective did and the constant talking was much more damaging and effective than if he would have been straight forward. He knows what he was doing.
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Who are these some ppl ? Lol
1 likePeople are dumb they're here for drama not the actual fascinating events of what happens
4 likesWhen the second officer said "Do you know how blood works?" My jaw dropped because of how he said it with such sarcasm and showed his non existent sympathy and empathy towards the suspect
98 likesOh my god. I was struggling to remember why this case sounded so familiar as I was listening to it in the background, until I suddenly made the connection between Tori and Guelph. I lived in Guelph for some of my childhood, and I still remember being driven past her memorial post every single day. Jones Baseline and Highway 124. There were flowers and wreaths laid at that telephone post for years afterwards. All I understood at the time was that something terrible had happened to a girl who was around my age, and I felt so helpless and angry that she had died under such horrific circumstances. I'm so fucking glad to know that this remorseless piece of shit was eviscerated by these detectives from the OPP. I hope he rots in hell for what he did to poor Tori. It's so much more than what he deserves. She would have been around my age now... just thinking about what happened to Tori makes me furious and beyond sick to my stomach, and so, so devastated that a beautiful young girl's life was ended for nothing but to satiate the appetite of a repulsive monster.
74 likesBless the detective at the end for telling that monster what awaits him. He can never suffer enough, but that detective certainly did his best to impress upon him the repercussions he'd soon suffer. I hope it was even a fraction of the suffering he imposed upon that child and I wish with everything I have that he is handled by his fellow inmates.
28 likesI almost cried throughout some parts of this video. The crimes committed were disgusting. RIP, this poor, innocent child. Condolences to her family and friends.
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Ur kinda a softy ngl
0 likes@Tom also, all your other comments on this channel are just looking for fights, so I will not reply further. I hope you are not doing this through hatred for life, I sincerely hope you are mentally doing well. I wish you the best in life, have a good night :)
9 likes@Tom Anyone would be when hearing about something so heinous. Maybe you arenāt, but most people are. Itās called empathy.
0 likes@Shcripty haek Thanks <3
0 likesA masterful rapid fire monologue delivered by the interrogator. I was mentally exhausted listening to him keep that pace the ENTIRE time!
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It was edited to look that way
0 likesI remember reading about this in the sun newspaper. They had written so many details of what happened it was insanely creepy. Different times.
12 likesThe fact that rape even exists is sickening Iāve been through it and god I canāt imagine being that young dealing with that and then getting murdered I hope sheās resting peacefully now and her family are coping the best they can this world is so messed up itās sad. I have a daughter now and it hurts thinking this could happen to any kid even mine it takes one minute to kidnap someone.
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Humans can be pretty evil, it is very sad indeed.
2 likesI have never felt this physically disgusted. Ever. I am so sorry to everyone effected by this; I'm sure what I'm feeling is only a sliver of what you have had to go through.
5 likesThis guy is doing an amazing job......the skill of the interrogation and the tactics used are fantastic.....not to mention the self control he (the cop) has not abandon his persona and not do what we would all want to do and completely loose our shit with this monster.
4 likesThis is a horrifying story. Canāt imagine what the family & mores so the child went through. Those two murderers will face their maker.
5 likesIts chilling how cold he is. Even after the grilling and verbal abuse he just shrugs it all off like dandruff. A real life monster.
3 likesjust tried to watch some other interrogation channels and can"t. have been totally spoiled by the smart analysis provided on JCS. wish this channel was still going. nothing else comes close.
8 likesThis officer has some serious patience. Like, I know he is trained for it and I am not, but I would give up so much sooner than he did.
3 likesHow can this guy ever be eligible for parole? How did that happen?
9 likesI'm glad they have such an experienced and level-headed detective for this, because if it was me I would be spilling blood the moment I saw this abhorrent beast. Slowly.
1 likeWhen I see the pictures of the child smiling and being a normal child my heart shatters.
5 likesJust gotta love the way this interrogator didn't even give this sicko a chance to deny and/or lie. Instead, he just gave it to him straight.
0 likesIt's crazy to me that people even try these henious crimes thinking they won't get caught.. it's insane.
0 likesI am against the death penalty on principle. But it is sometimes not easy to stick to your principles. Some people walk among us as if they were one of us, but inside they are monsters.
0 likesIt's sickening to know these two will be eligible for parole in 25 years.
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Fair sentence imo
1 likeBut it could be denied, right? I'm from another country
0 likes@sahtification Yes, it could be denied. It depends on how they have behaved while in prison mostly.
2 likes@pulsar_ thank you
1 like@sahtification no problem!
0 likesThe patience and energy of these officers !! Is smth to behold
1 likeI liked watching the last investigator telling what all of us wanted to say. Because normally in these types of videos there isnāt that part, itās just tactical. But this one, no. Itās pure venting.
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I thought it was unprofessional. He let his emotions get to him.
0 likesidk why but itās really disturbing that she was kidnapped on my birthday. While I was blowing out candles and eating cake with my family, she was simultaneously getting banged in the head with a hammer. The kid wouldāve been in college right now if it wasnāt for this š
4 likesI'm not sure I could keep calm if I was a cop and was interrogating someone as evil as this.
0 likesIt disgust me knowing he has the possibility of one day being paroled. I doubt he will but, it still sickening.
0 likesThis is why capital punishment exists. If it was my country, the victim's family would decide his fate once the guilty verdict has been established.
2 likesThere are 3 options available for the family: eye for an eye, forgiving or blood money. If they devide to go with eye for an eye, then it is death by by a shooting squad.
I watched a lot of these recently and the main strategy they all uses is victimization of themself.
1 likeI can understand why they do that, its because its work in real life. Nobody can be as firm when they interrogate a family member or gf/bf. Normal people has to release at some point because they lose the person and will never have the truth.
It must have taken Jim Smyth every ounce of restraint in his body to not leap across the table and rough Rafferty up when he mockingly said, "funny man" to him. It's alright though, I feel he put him in his place with his stern words.
1 likeSo disturbing that there's such evil lurking around us. Very scary.
1 likeAbsolutely disgusting. I've got no idea how anyone could prey on a child.
0 likesāIf I thought you were a monster Iād stay a little to see what makes you tickā itās like a cat just taunting itās prey, there must be a satisfaction in being able to taunt these monsters
2 likesHorrific monsters live among us & prey on our children & grandchildren. It would be total justice if he is living each and every single day & night the unholy nightmare he put that baby through at the hands of monsters just like him. Tory's poor parents have to live with the knowledge of the horror their innocent little girl endured before she was so cruelly ripped from their lives by the hideous & selfish acts of not one, but two monsters. I pray for them. I hope they've managed to somehow find peace.
0 likes"You're not monster", "Maybe things just got out of hand, just a mistake."
3 likesTo me these tactics always feel sketchy, I'm sure there's an argument as to the time and place for these statements, and maybe even an expected response to the statements whether guilty or innocent, but these seem to me like a 100% trap, which makes me hopeful they are only used when the suspect is already known to be guilty, but I also feel like people could fall into the trap even if they aren't.
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I think you're right about them only doing this when they're sure, i mean this monster says nothing during this interview so nothing was really gained in a legal sense but they clearly didn't need him to say anything as he was found guilty anyway.
1 likeDef tactics for when itās without a doubt- they utilize it to get them comfortable and break them down
0 likesI'd love the chance to talk to this detective/behavioral analyst. what is the purpose of the lengthy interrogation? The physical evidence and witness testimony really is enough to convict. What does the interview gain? I feel like the crime itself speaks to motive, is the purpose just to add tools in case other evidence is thrown out?
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This is explained in the video by JCS, and in their other videos as well.
0 likesOnly 25 years for raping and murdering a child? What a horrible system.
0 likesAt the absolute bare minimum, there should be a court prescribed beating for such an action. I'm not saying to paralyze them for life but just beat them to the point where they have debilitating physical pain for a very long time.
We hear about how these sorts get "beaten up and murdered" in jails, and perhaps it's true for some, but as I understand it, the majority are put into "high risk" areas where they are kept apart from gen pop. It's a bitter pill to swallow to think that two twisted people could kidnap, rape, and murder a child so young and face virtually nothing as a result.
They have to sit behind some walls with guards and other inmates. Oh, what a horrible life! To get three meals a day, clothes and shelter! What terrible suffering they must go through! I hear that prison food doesn't taste very good - that must be so hard for those child raping murders to deal with. To not have a say in what kind of jello they're going to be eating that day. Those poor souls!
I do not understand how we allow our systems of justice to be so absolutely weak and inadequate. A pathetic, shabby vessel of meaningless garbage. The victims have no relief and the guilty no sense of terror. The entire thing had rotted away from the standards it was built upon.
We live in a house of desolation and mud.
I have never heard anyone say "OK" as many times as this detective does during this interrogation.
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"..Alright?"
0 likesReal Canada šØš¦ shit lol š
0 likesSad I hope his crimes are known to his cell mates and that he is treated the same way US inmates would treat him
2 likesMike: "I didn't do what you think I did". Interrogator "We are past that." And he keeps on taking. Good job. Don't let Mike waste your time.
2 likesRafferty is going to have a very bad time in prison, in Ontario prisons no-longer have protective custody just general population, inmates have families too and a murder conviction against an 8 year old child will not go over well with other inmates.
3 likesI like this interrogator he just keeps rambling giving Rafferty no time to think
Love this interrogation, especially the gut punching at the end.
0 likesIt would be worth doing time in prison just to have the chance of being confined in the same cell as Michael Rafferty. His suffering would be legendary - even in Hell.
2 likesThis case reminds me of the episode āwhite bearā from black mirror. How about we take Michael Rafferty to his own Justice Park
2 likesReally concerning how on all of these types of videos, people in the comments love wishing and imagining all types of suffering on the torture on the perpetrators. I can understand it as an initial reaction but it's something we have to move past.
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a lot of people likely just write those things under strong emotions, although considering that child murder is a very intense topic and the fact that pedo hysteria exists, most people would still say and probably do those things even without watching such video, which is unfortunate, I think. Such vilification doesn't really help
1 like@darkdwarf007 Exactly. Also, I don't think retribution resolves any problem at all, except the fulfillment of some cruel desire to see someone suffer.
0 likes''In reality no food was coming. He was right when he said the cop didn't care about his hunger'' made me laugh
0 likesOnly an hour and 15 minutes away from me. I remember this case. 13 years later, still so fucking disturbing š
0 likesthe greatest deal of patience is needed with this job, something i can only dream of cause if that guy wasnāt talking iād have nothing holding me back from just ploughing his nose with my fist
1 likeKilling their daughter with a hammer. no ones safe anywhere. Disgusting people. Poor family and Rest In Peace little angel
3 likesEven if I was innocent I would confess with how much the agent says "okay" after every statement
0 likesThis guy must have already been whacked in jail by now. Once they found out his crime he may as well get a full body bulls eye tattoo
2 likesHe said she went for a walk that was her time to save the kidsand call the policeThe women need to go to jail too. She is guilty as well as his guilty. She took the young girl to his car. So upsetting .So glad that she got life.
0 likesBravo to the last detective ripping through him.
0 likesWho the hell would do something like this? This is unbelievable.
0 likesThis interrogator is very good (I think). Some tactics are a bit too blatantly obvious traps.
1 likeHe reminds me of the counsellor from South Park....'ok.'
Not to minimize this technique the detective is employing. I understand the process but holy crap... He's wearing me down I'm ready to confess to him to just to get him to stop the tirade. When do you realize you have jabbered long enough and start the questioning? I love my Canadian cousins up North. They are so darn polite. Maybe he's not eating the donut because they are not Tim Horton's?
0 likesSure I was poking fun but the detective did a great job!
As a child, hearing a cop say "These things happen all the time." is horrifying.
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He's trying to play it down like it isn't a big thing at the beginning of the interview to try and gain trust or friendship with this monster.
6 likesThat detection would break anyone with his relentless monotone speaking! I was about to confess just to make him stop ā ! š„“šµāš«
3 likes52:40 I bet this detective felt so good taking this guy down... Rafferty doesn't even realize he's psychotic.
0 likesāWhat are you afraid of?ā āMy life being taken awayāā¦.. he deserves to rot in prison
0 likesnot to get off topic but I love how aggressively Canadian the detective's accent is lol
1 likeoh wow he's got the AUDACITY to play victim and stick to it lmao it's so fucking embarrassing to see him talk back at the 'bad cop' lol
0 likesHe mightāve said something if the detective paused for a few seconds.
0 likesWhy did it take 3 years for him to be found guilty?
1 likeThis was probably the hardest video to watch on this channel
1 likeIT IS SMYTH!!!!!! the cop that interrogated russell williams! So glad to find another vid of him!!
0 likesHope this guy got his āprison justiceā and then some.
0 likesI hope this freak gets everything he has coming to him in prison, and so much worse...
0 likes42:42 he says the words āi dont feel comfortable talking about it.ā
1 likeI genuinely donāt have any words,I. Wdym you donāt feel comfortable talking about you obviously felts comfortable before doing it. It appalls me to wonder how he could even say that. Ugh.
Feels so good knowing that PoS is rotting in jail still denying things. What an absolute PoS
0 likesHow could someone go along with this? The devil is real.
0 likes"she's not missing anymore she's dead"
1 likeI wish they would have just bullied him for the whole time
"Only the Predavatar, master of taking a seat, could stop them, But when the world needed Chris Hansen the most, he vanished..."
0 likesIf they had all the evidence they wouldnāt need the confession
0 likesDo all Canadian cops end their sentences with "okay" or is it just this guy?
0 likesI LOVE LOVE LOVE me some Jim Smyth. He did a great job with Russ Williams, He's a totally different man here..but he has the kindest heart..š
0 likesYou think they purposely get creaky chairs? That shit would piss me off if I was being interrogated
1 likeI tell people when I let them know about JCS that what ever you do DON'T let this be the first video you watch ..... Do they shank people in Canada or just have pillow fights ? I mean they must , hopefully he's experiencing that
1 likeHe was so bold to commit such a Heinous crime and now look at him playing victim,so pathetic!!!!
0 likesI would be filthy rich if I had a nickel for every time the interrogator says āokā!!
0 likesI literarily thought shit like this only happened in movies.
0 likesTS that goes through these people head really scares me because how are you even sexually attracted to such innocent beings? Itās just odd & evil ugh! š¤šš½
0 likesIām not an expert but clearly the method this interrogator used did not work. Would long extended silences have worked better so that the accused would attempt to fill the gaps in silence? I think this guy just shut down completely after hearing this cop talk for about 3 minutes.
0 likesHis self-pity makes me so damn mad.
0 likesHis crying is narcissistic, he's upset because he was caught.. That witch is worst than the man.. she picked the child up and delivered her to the sick pos.
1 likeTake a shot for every time the interrogator says "okay".
0 likesThey often break down when they have a chance to speak with someone close, like a close relative or a close buddy. Porn is a time bomb, it will turn many into monsters.
0 likesRest in peace little one.
0 likesCanada: brings in child murderer. āHereās a nice blanket for ya so you can get cozy, and some tea and a donut. Iām sourry thereās only one sugar for the tea.ā
2 likesthe good cop bad cop strategy is amazing
1 likeOMG they can try to get parole in 25 years, it should have been a sentence for both without parole. What is wrong with that countries laws. That disgusts me.
0 likesI don't know how the police can do it,I would have a problem staying calm.
0 likesWhen Michael walked in the room I felt so much hate towards him I hate him
0 likesHe still has an attitude and it just pisses me. Such an evil.
1 likeHe can't even look at the man he knows he's done
0 likesthe news lady choking up at the end after telling the verdict omg
0 likesThe tragedy is that so many people don't realize that thought is often the prelude to action, and that when people, for instance, watch pornography that is based on rape and are rewarded with sexual gratification ... it might be only a matter of time before thought turns to action. And once the abduction of a child or an adult occurs, in desperation of not wanting to be caught, the perpetrator of the crime perceives that the only way to avoid prison, is that the child, or adult, must be killed. Before it became action ... it started with thought.
1 likePlease do a video on Jacob Stockdale
0 likesTake a shot every time the cop says āKā
0 likesjim smyth is a LEGEND
0 likesMost Canadian thing ever " you haven't even touched your donut!"
1 likeWhat prison is this creep in and has someone made it known to the prison population who and what he is? That will take care of that.
0 likesJesus the voice of that detective, the fact that he won't shut up, and the repetition of "this is your opportunity to say your piece", "you're not a monster ok?" , would make me confess to anything just to get him to stop droning.
0 likesHighest impact: the final distraught voice of the reporter. Dude
0 likesāYouāre not some sick bastard who wants to sit and hurt peopleā yeah I donāt care what your strategy is that man never deserves to hear such a lie as that
0 likesThe behaviour guy just wont stop talking! I would switch off if i was sat there with him.
1 likeif this every happens to one of my grandchildren i wont need the court system
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Reminds me of the alaskan avenger. Guy looked up the sexual criminal records from his area and went to their homes and beat them.
0 likesI just hope Terry Lynn is given the same verdict. Because tears don't make someone guilty. There actions, like kidnapping a little girl,, which leads them to being killed. And for the detective to say he is having a good time . Lol. Mann. Who is this detective. He needs to be removed.
0 likesThat's Canada's idea of a bad cop?
1 likeA Puppy !! That's so 1978..
0 likesPetrol +lighter+ both culprits = Justice.
"You're just a ball of nerves here, you don't know whether to shake, shit, puke..."
1 likeThis one was hard to watch š
0 likesHe's rambling and babbling so much trying to get the guy to start talking. He may as well just start begging the guy to speak. "You haven't even touched your doughnut."
0 likesPossibility of parole after 25 years What a stupid justice system
0 likesMy god the interrogator can ramble on and on...
0 likesI don't get why that girl got so many years, she is guilty, sure, but she confessed, showed remorse and she was not the one doing the crime apart from abduction
0 likesWhy is he not asking for his lawyer and doing all this discussions?
0 likesJust where is you God when all this is happening to an innocent child?
1 likeāDo you watch a lotta gladiator movies, Mike?ā
0 likesI pretended my punching dummy was Michael Rafferty šš„
0 likesThis looks suspicious. The guy never admits to anything. He kept his mouth shut like what we are told. I never hear them give any evidence that he did it. They never mention they found semen on the child. Only that his girlfriend said he did kill her. What about the girlfriend? What penalty is she facing. Could have told a lie to save her ass. I am really concerned that a innocent person is going to jail.
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enough evidence to lock him up for life, and a grown man acting like a little kid getting in trouble hy his mother doesnāt help the case
0 likesI literally feel sick, how can anyone think a god exists that would let this happen.
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Exactly what I think :(
0 likes16:07 If only he could do it . . .
0 likesI wished they would have served him onion soup with a lot of nice cut mushrooms in it. And with a big polite smile say - "Here you go. Enjoy"
0 likesThis guyās rambling is torture. šµāš«š
0 likesFree JCS, YouTube. We demand their content!
0 likesThe audacity to cry and act weak like datt eww
0 likes"Ya haven't touched your donut" š
0 likesHow Canadian is ālook at ya, you havenāt touched yāer doughnutā
1 like"YOU HAVENT TOUCHED YOUR DONUT "š©š so Canadian
0 likesthis guy is good at interrogating ok
0 likesI still don't understand why it is so often called out as sexual assault. It is RAPE.
8 likesAll rape is sexual assault, but not all sexual assault is rape...
When someone is attacked by a bear, you wouldn't say they were attacked by a mammal either.
Just call it as it is.
is that the same interrogator from Russell Williams case?
0 likesthe first bloke left his phone in the room with him
0 likesThese 2 wouldāve turned into Myra and Bradey.
0 likes25 years is not long enough
0 likesI'll confess now if that cop would SHUT UP
0 likesPatronising narrative interfered with critical observation.
0 likesThe girl who lured the victim is a monster too.
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At least she'll be living with that guilt for the rest of her life
715 likesShe sherdnt a dun dat.
179 likesDon't want to defend a criminal but she was only 18 and probably didn't know it would end up like this though... I've skipped some parts of the video so tell me if I'm wrong, but to me it seems she just did what she was told, probably was coerced or something
409 likes@elbachsito lol no. Even the best possible outcome of abducting an 8 year old girl for her sicko boyfriend (the rare occurrence where the victim doesn't end up dead) is horrific to comprehend. Being complicit in this kind of crime is abhorrent, no matter which way you look at it.
1044 likesWhat could she possibly expected to have happened to deserve leniency?
@moralapostel yeah but she was a teenager in an abusive relationship with an older guy. It's obvious it was his idea and he talked her into it, she probably agreed because she wanted to please him. I mean she's guilty, but idk if I would put them at the same level... But I'm not a cop, a lawyer or even familiar with the case so what do I knowš¤·āāļø
289 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke what if 17 girl lure one of your family member to death?! I am pretty sure that you won't think the same
225 likes@DesFighter When it comes to 'if it was your family member' well, we would have people killed or locked up for a lot more than we do know. It's better to think rationally. Someone kidnapping a person doesn't deserve the same punishment as someone sexually abusing a minor and then killing them. I can't recall it even being mentioned whether she knew what the guy planned on doing with her. Is she wrong? Yes. Does she deserve years in jail? Yes. Does she deserve the same punishment as someone that sexually abuses then kills a minor? No.
210 likesKidnapping carries the same penalty as murder, so she's not getting out.
107 likesThe first girl made me so pissed.
155 likesāShe was on his lap, I could hear her calling me name.ā
As a person who was in a similar situation like this, I still hold a grudge to people who saw what happened, who I told what happened and still did nothing.
Often I wonder if they cared or if they truly feel guilty.
Maybe if they said something I wouldnāt be going through this much trauma.
@Yogibearemployee yeah, i can totally see that. Aināt my place and much less my job to judge if at 18 she was too scared or under influence of that monster. But retribution has been pronounced. She got equal sentence to the perp. Only difference her genuine remorse would do is the eventuality of parole.
22 likes@O O she got life in prison. People donāt follow or what ? Parole is NOT automatic.
16 likes@Thomas AlĆØgre de la Soujeole I think she was young and under the influence of the bigger monster, she has genuine remorse.
11 likesI think because I can see her remorse and itās obvious that she cares I can understand her more, however I never saw that in my situation.
@Yogibearemployee grown ass adults that share complicity is disgusting ; i totally understand they get the same sentence as the perpetrator. But unless, like there, you can prove they knew (reasonable doubt&all) before the court ; its often the most difficult part for investigators&AGās. Lots of people defend themselves saying they just couldnāt believe their neighbor/parent/colleague was a pedophile. When there is incest in families itās often even more difficult... those are the sort of cases I find hardest to even contemplate. Wears you down like nothing else, and itās hard to not grow bitter if youāre confronted to it too often.
8 likesI canāt even imagine how victims feel like. I know on the paper, but canāt pretend I could imagine the magnitude of the hardships.
@elbachsito dude im 17 and I could've seen that coming, she led her with the false idea of there being puppies. This was purposeful.
123 likes@Thomas AlĆØgre de la Soujeole Yeah although exactly that part (the court procedure and investigation) is wildly different due to that. It took over 10 weeks of court deliberations where the family and prosecution were waiting for a verdict exactly because the perpetrator lawyered up and didn't say a thing. This was after she had come forward admitting to everything, being a witness to the crime giving a detailed description of what happened, where it happened and pointing to the crime scene and so on and so forth. If both had immediately admitted this would have been over immediately. If she had done the same thing as him, who knows what may have happened, maybe they wouldn't have found the body, maybe they wouldn't have won the case, maybe it would have taken months if not years more to finalize the case. So in this case she got the exact same sentence as him, even though they basically cooperated very differently (she admitting and providing evidence and cooperating while him denying up until the last second). In the end, this indicates that cooperating with them and confessing actually didn't help her at all giving him the same punishment as the guy who denied it all. So I think this is where most people are coming from when they say they wonder about the exact same sentence, of course the severity of the crime is the same, what they did is inexcusable. But in order to be able to investigate through it and prove it on court and catch the murder and solve the case, there is a very big difference in those approaches.
10 likes@Random Guy yeah ; well, in that case the young woman was pretty screwed as it was. And i mean, an 8 year old kid was kidnapped, raped and murdered. The retribution part of the sentence canāt really go any easier than the possibility of parole. In the end her cooperation will probably get her freedom on parole after 24 years, but that other guy ? Now if that one was given parole thatād be a massive idiocy. I actually think the freedom on parole in the sentencing was addressed to her directly, and not to Rafferty. It appears the same treatment at the moment the sentence is spoken ; but frankly, if that wasnāt a Ā«Ā bundleĀ Ā» sentencing i believe that would have been a life sentence straight.
2 likes@Omkar Gawade 'If three people abduct someone and kill them' insinuates that they all commit the murder. In this case, if the man had come to his senses and let go of the child, would the driver still deserve this penalty? I think not. It's simply incorrect to adjust her sentence to actions she has no control over. She needs to be in jail for kidnapping while knowing the consequences could be grave. Wathever happens after that, isn't in her control, and shouldn't be her fault. SO her sentence shouldn't depend on that, it should depend on the actions she took and the risk she was aware of for the child. (at least in my opinion, this is an interesting discussion in my opinion)
6 likesYeah he didnāt have a gun, her life wasnāt in immediate danger, she couldāve easily told any employee at Home Depot to call 911. If she was afraid he would try to make her leave she couldāve even asked a manager to pretend to be holding her for shoplifting until the police came. She had so many chances to save that child without getting herself hurt.
29 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke I will do you one last favor to help you understand the analogy. The safety attached to the person climbing is like the safety society and the school provides to the little kids. The little girl won't follow a random adult man to a secluded spot where no one can see her get pushed in a car. The safety of society won't allow the guy to go anywhere near the girl and forcefully abduct her. So the girl luring the child away into the hands of the man was basically cutting through the safety society provided the kid with.
14 likesNow without the safety if anything bad happens to her of course it is her responsibility.
@Mirai Nikki stop twisting my words š I said from the beginning she's a criminal, I just think what he did was even more atrocious, that's it
4 likes@elbachsito in the court she admitted she killed the kid
24 likesI would say she got some sick joy out of it. Might have had something similar happen to her when she was young.
3 likesNo doubt.
0 likes@elbachsito Just because someone is in a bad position, that does NOT excuse their terrible actions.
12 likesI find it very sad that you felt it needs to be said.
0 likes@elbachsito you are wrong
3 likes@ill Fitting Helmet ofc it does
0 likesShe could have saved the little girls life. It would have been an awesome thing if she turned around and said fuck this, I'm out.
1 like@elbachsito I agree with you. I'm not defending what she did in any way, and she has to pay the consequences. But if anyone says it's as clear cut as her being just as evil for the sake of it, I think that's even more ignorant. People can be so easily manipulated and taken advantage of. Again, NOT giving an excuse for her. But people are so quick to make an assumption and condemn because of the serious nature of the crime. There's usually way more to these things than just pointing the 'you're a monster and that's why you did it' finger.
1 likeyep just as bad imo
2 likes@elbachsito 18 is a legal adult in the UK if my partner told me to kidnap a child when he dropped me off I'd have ran to the police not proceeded to do so.
6 likesIn some way worse since without her it's unlikely this would've ever happened and the girl put her faith/trust in the older girls hands, not the guy, illustrating how her trust betrayed and she suffered the ultimate price.
6 likes@elbachsito defending females, smh she is just as bad as she was ok with his intentions
9 likes@DesFighter There's a reason family members and people personally close to cases aren't involved in the legal investigations.
0 likes@Joseph I see what you mean but isn't that like saying a person who drives criminals to a bank they're going to rob, is more guilt than the robbers themselves just because they had an early part in it? Not a perfect analogy as this is a murder charge, but people can do insane things through manipulation that they may never do otherwise. It's impossible to tell without knowing more really.
0 likes@Omkar Gawade I get it now man, thanks for pointing that out. You're correct on these analogy's I think after rereading them. Would've helped a lot if u responded as a decent person, I would've read them normally instead of biased.
5 likesI'm not expecting anyone to teach me how any laws work. Someone commented that in their opinion the laws implemented here may not be the nearest resemblance of justice, I simply agreed with that. That's an opinion. Not everyone is forced to believe every single law simply because it is a law.
You talk about writing an essay about people when you are the one that started doing so, yet you are surprised by people not liking that and reacting to that? You talk about people being stupid and wrong, yet can't grasp the simple principle that insulting people leads to them reacting aggressively? Flat-earthers are wrong because their opinion is scientifically proven wrong. You wan't to call my opinion wrong because it doesn't fit with the law system, a system that differs all around the world, is thought by many to be incorrect in different situations, and is made by people. Again, you want to talk about stupid and wrong, how many intellectuals and lecturers do you know of that try to win a discussion with hard language? Educated people tend to just bring arguments instead of villainizing the opposition. Your name-calling is the simple reason why people are so divided and hate each other so much.
Still, I believe the girl doesn't deserve the same jail time for kidnapping as the guy does for sexually abusing and killing a minor, if you don't agree with that, that's fine, many people here do. Just be civil about it and agree to disagree.
@elbachsito u skipped. Watch from 31:10 and you'll see
2 likesI'd love to examine the behaviour of him and the girl on a day to day, see their dynamics and behaviours, did she fancy him and would do anything for him or what? This is my favourite criminal psychology to date mainly because of the talking skill and logic are used in this interview.
3 likes@kickapoo Same
1 like@Aron Vanhaeverbeke I agree, life is too long, I think 50-60 years without parole would have been fine to me.
2 likesi would say she wrost
2 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke i think she is the worst, she knew what he was going to do and yet she helped him,
3 likes@I have a girlfriend, trust me. I honestly watch a lot of these vids lately, so I didn't recall her knowing what his intentions were, if she did know, then yeah, she should be in for 50+
1 like@Yourboidatboihey For me it depends on how much she knew about what was going to happen, if she didn't know of anything I'd say 30-40. If she did then yeah, 50-60 is fine. It's kinda weird for me as in my country punishments are wayyyy to low. She"d never even get 20 here.
1 likeyea she killed that girl tbh ...she played the biggest role in this ...her showing remorse and helping the cops out is cool but it doesnāt really take away a from the end result .
2 likes@CellBlockNine He were just a boy
0 likes@DesFighter This is a dumb question. We don't let the family of victims serve as jurors or prosecutors for a reason.
0 likes@Natasha Hughes Everybody thinks they'd have done something differently. And yet, almost no one in that situation actually does. Experience > your wishful thinking.
0 likesfr idk how u can do that ESPECIALLY as a women
0 likes@bob builder Everyone is always the hero, yet during times like war, common people start committing atrocities. Even without war, there is this experiment where groups were divided into prisoners and prison guards (can't remember the name). Go look at what happened there. Not to say that what she did is ok or anything, and she should be in jail for decades. But you underestimate how easily manipulated people are.
1 like@Derp Y-Derp I donāt think, i am sure. I wouldāve never put or will put an innocent child or being in that situation. I am very sure. I am not speaking for you or anyone else, and you donāt know me to say what i would or wouldnāt do. Maybe i fall in that very small precentage that actually help someone instead of taking them to their death.
1 like@Galactic Caveman Exactlyššš
0 likes@Derp Y-Derp Youāre smart i like the point you made now! āŗļø
1 like@Natasha Hughes Preventing crime is such a low priority that a lot of people see it as 'siding with the criminals'. It's really frustrating, but at the end of the day, if you want to stop people from wanting to do certain things, you're probably going to have to understand them.
1 like@Derp Y-Derp Yes, i am trying to understand by watching all of these videos on criminals and their psychology!
0 likes@Derp Y-Derp And from your perspective i am also learningāŗļø
0 likes@Literally Polio
0 likesDangit!
Good to know
@SuperDuck he is
0 likes@Derp Y-Derp You're mixing up trying to understand the criminal's mind, and determining his sentence. They are two different things. Try to understand the kidnapper all you want, but still the sentence doesn't depend on the emotional state of the criminal, it depends only on the facts of the case, it doesn't matter if the criminal was abused as a child or whatever other reason, if bad things happen to you, you don't get the right to harm other INNOCENT people.
6 likesSo the people letting their emotions affect their reaction to her sentence are wrong.
Another important thing is that when you're trying to understand a criminal don't begin to sympathize with them. Like how the first detective acted like a friend towards that guy, but when he left he didn't even bring him the promised food, even when he said he was hungry. Of course, you might feel like sympathizing with them, cause in the end we are all humans, but remember sympathizing with her, is an insult to the little girl she helped rape and murder. So don't let yourself feel bad for her.
Why are you looking at this case like it's the first time something like this has happened, criminal psychology has been dealing with people like her for centuries. We have already analyzed criminals like them but that hasn't helped stop crime. If you really are thinking about how to prevent crime, what NEW suggestions different from what we have now, have you thought of?
It is easy to say "How do we actually prevent this sort of shit from happening in the first place?" but finding an effective solution to the problem of crime hasn't been possible in the entire history of mankind. So all we can do is continue to protect ourselves and PUNISH criminals as we have been doing.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke Let's not waste time thinking about the little conflict we had, if you are still interested in this topic you can go through a comment I made just before this one.
3 likesSome of you in these comments sound suspect as shitš
1 like@elbachsito 18 is an adult age? How does she still doesnt use her brain
0 likesIn the court case it was stated that she landed the final blow that killed the little girl...
2 likes@Omkar Gawade This is completely untrue...
2 likesFirst and foremost, understanding the criminal is one of the most critical parts of determining their sentence. Why do you think so much time is spent trying to monitor remorse, state of mind, risk to re-offend, etc?
As for the emotional state of the offender not mattering, I can't even believe that you don't know this stuff but felt like you had to jump into this discussion to correct somebody else... Emotional state is maybe the most critical element of establishing intent. That word comes up an awful lot in felony trials.
Im from Woodstock and she actually was sent to a āhealing facilityā out west but soon as the public found out there was sooo much backlash she was directly sent back to jail. FUCKING WASTE OF FLESH.
5 likes@Below Average she was fortunately also sentenced to life in prison aswell
4 likes@elbachsito they switched her charged to first degree murder after looking into her role and she got sentenced to life in prison. She did it of her own free will and simply felt bad after and cooperated
1 like@elbachsito Finally someone sane who knows woman don't have agency.
0 likes@elbachsito 18 year old and a heroin addict they said she did it for a fix Iām sure she lives with massive regret especially if she got clean
0 likes@David Shabo I thought that was obvious but apparently itās not.
1 like@elbachsito she lead a girl to her brutal death??? "she was only 18" she was old enough. don't infantalize her. she knew what was gonna happen and did it anyways
4 likes@elbachsito Iām 15 and i donāt see myself luring a 8 year old, she knew exactly what she was doing
2 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke she 100% did
0 likes@Omkar Gawade yes sir
0 likesImo she is a monster for what she probably knowingly caused, but her regret was also probably genuine
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke Yes absolutely she does. Wouldntāve happened without her. Sheās a part of the crime noyāt a victim.
2 likesShe had a choice and she took part in those atrocities. Even if she was coerced, even if she was manipulated. She did it. Now she pays for it
@CancerSquad All right and well, I'm just saying she should get 40ish years instead of life in prison. In my opinion that is
1 like@Sebastian Johansson Depends on the jail etc, life in prison should be worse than that simply cuz of the mental impact. With todays prisons idk how much of that is still true tho. (I don't kniw a lot about thus kind of topic)
1 like@Rhys 'defending'? You even know what that means? I never said anything she did was ok or excusable. I've said many times in these comments that she should be in jail for >40years. Is that defending? I just disagree with the sentence being the same for her as it is for the guy.
1 like@Omkar Gawade Good comment. I think I know where our difference in opinion comes from! I live (and grew up in) a country where stuff like mental state, upbringing, .. are taken into account when determining the sentence.
2 likesI'm also not saying this is a better way of doing it, I think our justice system is way to soft. But that's probably why this whole thing feels so 'weird' to me. Thanks a lot
@CancerSquad Does she deserve the same punishment as him tho?
1 like@Omkar Gawade Also man, I see your typing a lot to other People as well atm, but don't lose yourself in it, there will always be someone new. Take care
1 like@Aron Vanhaeverbeke acctually you were saying "she should be charged with kidnapping" which carries a maximum sentence of twelve years. With good behavior she would be out in 6 years meaning she would be released very soon. This monster knew exactly what was going to happen to this young girl and went through with it to get a fix of heroin. Tell me how you were advocation for 40+ years? Sometimes I wonder why people can't just admit there were wrong online. Stop arguing your point when your point is wrong.
4 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke as I said I don't really care about winning an argument, or looking bad if I lose one. I do it completely for myself, to learn something new and to improve my skills, so I don't care what someone on the internet thinks about me. If someone is an annoying person who doesn't even read what the other person is saying and only wants to prove himself right, I just ignore them, which is why I was unwilling to spend time during our initial conflict. So thanks for your advice, and may luck be with you.
1 like@elbachsito she heard the little girl cry for help and ignored it. She caused it just as much as micheal
1 like@elbachsito being 18 in a abuse relationship doesnāt make it less criminalising she knew he was violent and still went through with it, she delivered that little girl to a monster she is on the same level except she felt more guilt witch only makes her more empathetic!
1 like@Julie Exel she has empathy for what happened but let it happen she could have killed the one doing the atrocity and saved the little girl, in the laws eyes sheās just as guilty and is well deserved, she may not have committed the murder but she most definitely knew what he was going to do and still went through with it
0 likesAgreed, atleast she was a CIVILIZED person and felt bad instead of him just saying "I didn't do anything"
1 likeshe is but can at least say she came clean there was remorse
0 likes@Rhys I was advocating for 40+ due to the outcome of the kidnapping? I'll repeat it for the 10th time, I believe she deserves a different punishment from the guy, that is my main single argument I've made here, yet u completely ignore it then act like they proved me wrong xd
0 likesLook at the other guy I had a discussion with, he proved to me why what she did was a lot worse than kidnapping, qnd I agreed with him. So before u want to come out claiming shit about me, do the minimal effort of reading the actual stuff I wrote here
Preach. I have some sympathy for her apparent stupidity but goddamn... If I were her I would have just considered myswlf spoiled and thrown myself out by now
0 likes@Marra she could of helped the girl you know that right?
1 like@Yogibearemployee it's human nature to avoid confrontation like this. It's a terrible and horrific aspect about us. Doesn't mean this girl is innocent, but understanding this aspect of humans is the best way to teach us how to step up when something happens around us.
1 likeThis is called the bystander effect and is the reason people will drive by a fresh car accident or do nothing when they hear someone screaming. They instinctively will avoid the situation and tell themselves whatever story makes it easier because confronting the situation would be admitting that it happened. Further enforced by the fact that this girl knew that she abducted the child. She's got every aspect of an innocent bystander (in her mind) that makes them not want to get involved but also the fear of her own life/future. For this reason I'm not surprised she did nothing. She did however, abduct a child. I don't care about your situation, there's no safe reason for a selective kidnapping, let alone a kidnapping in general. I believe her guilt over doing nothing but I can't understand her choice to abduct the child.
For the record, please know I'm not attacking or telling you that you should feel anything sympathetic towards this girl's actions. I'm not criticizing your personal hatred for those who standby and do nothing, especially after experiencing it yourself. I'm just trying to explain the psychological response the girl had in this situation.
@zandre hiraga ...
1 like@Aron Vanhaeverbeke he might have been with her before she was 18 too and groomed her
0 likesIt actually came out at trial that it was the girl that did the killing.
4 likesBut seriously, why did she do that? How did she justify to herself kidnapping a girl to take to her boyfriend other than the kid being hurt? Therefore, she knew she was doing harm to an inocent person, she's only regretting it and crying about it cause she got caught, not because she cares aboyt the lil girl. At least that s how i see it, she's just as sick and twisted as him.
1 like@elbachsito You are wrong, it was later revealed it was she who bashed the girls head with a hammer and is currently serving a life sentence for first degree murder.
4 likes@elbachsito being 18 is the most terrible excuse for "she didn't know that abducting a girl for your bf to assault and murder was wrong". Pretty sure even children know that's wrong
1 like@elbachsito The video didn't cover her history, but according to news reports, Terri was born to a stripper, given to and adopted by a different stripper, moved from place to place frequently as a child, started doing weed when she was 8, tortured her family dog with a microwave and claimed that another dog did it (the dog had to be put down), was put into foster care at 12, got into fights with other kids, became a frequent user of hard drugs, and badly beat her foster mom when she was 16. She also kept a notebook in middle school where she wrote about murdering people who pissed her off. While she was, certainly, manipulated by Rafferty, she was not exactly a victim in this, either.
2 likes@elbachsito I'm 18 years old with a 6 year old brother, you know how fucking- I can't even describe how out of touch with reality I'd be if I had ever found out my younger brother was lured, molested and beaten to death, I would go into a horrible blind rage after that man just thinking about if anything has happened to him. She knew what was going to happen to that kid and she did Nothing to save her life, it's absolutely sickening and her age has Nothing to do with it, she was a fucking adult.
1 like@Aron Vanhaeverbeke I think they have to think of it from a community safety perspective too. She witnessed an awful crime and never reported it. She confessed once they were caught. And being a main accomplice in such a crime and not reporting it means that she was probably willing to do this again for him had Tori not been killed. Was she going to just pick up girls for him to molester and then bring them back? Was that what she thought would happen? We rational people most certainly would have reported the request in the first place and not gone and acted on the abduction knowing what was about to happen to an innocent child. Someone with even that mindset does not deserve to be walking among us. I would prefer them in jail.
1 like@elbachsito bro she literally admitted to being the one who actually tortured (broke the 8 year old's ribs with a hammer) and killed (bashed in the head with the hammer) the girl during the trial after trying to pin everything on the guy when the guy was only responsible for driving and raping the child.
4 likesThe woman is arguably worse than the man here.
@elbachsito stop it, age has nothing to do with this. iām 17 and i would NEVER think about luring a kid to some rapist
0 likes@elbachsito The amount of people saying things like this is truly disgusting. Think critically about exactly what you're trying to say here. Maybe you could do a bit more research on the person you're defending next time as well.
4 likes@elbachsito she was asked to kidnap a 8 yo girl what did she expect ? Shes guilty as well
1 like@elbachsito the girl was the one who killed her, Michael wanted to keep her as a sex slave and Terri didnāt want it to happen so she killed her
1 like@elbachsito all 18 year olds know it is bad to cover up a murder and not talk about it. Even my sister with trisomy 21 knows that. Heck even my 3 year old baby cousin know its bad. Most people arenāt that stupid.
1 like@elbachsitoĀ she apparently testified that she used the hammer to kill the girl. So itās not what it seems.
4 likes@elbachsito Oh come on. 18 year olds are old enough to know kidnapping children is bad.
1 like@elbachsito No she brought the hammer along and was the one who landed the fatal blow. She was just as involved as he was.
2 likeswell no shit, she got prosecuted too.
0 likesI want to know where the kids mom was when they took her from a freaking Home Depot? Young children should be glued to you where ever you go. You donāt see any animal in nature not being around their children.
0 likesTo those wondering: I found articles that detailed her past a bit. She had a troubled childhood, but she was always extremely violent. Apparently she microwaved a dog when she was little and would fantasize about brutally beating people. She had a long criminal record of violence too. Her being young and having trauma is no excuse though. There are tons of people with similar pasts who would rather die than hurt someone that badly intentionally.
3 likesAbsolutely! Both of them are monsters.
2 likes@SuperDuck Yes
0 likes@Arthur De Los Santos Damn right buddy. Normal peeps donāt do this shit
1 like@Kantanen Akseli You're cold.
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke the crime was definitely going to take place, unless that girl had made another choice. Any other choice and that little girl is alive. She got what she deserves. She aimed, pointed, and pulled the trigger and he was the bullet that killed that girl.
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke civil enough answer for ya? Now that we know what a sicko she was too, you still want to waste your time defending those kind of people, or you got something better to do? Why sympathize with the perpetrators anyway unless for some reason you can relate and see yourself doing the same thing in her position. If you can't, but it's so disturbing you would NEVER do that, then it should be obvious she got what she deserved.
1 like@Julie Exel yes actually it was she who killed the child, it came out at the trail that she bashed her head open with a claw hammer she brought with her. She also had a violent history where she had put a dog in a microwave and turned it on, then she said that another dog had done it, the dog had to be put down. At 16 she also beat up her foster mom.
0 likesYou donāt need to live 18 years to know that itās not okay to lure in a child to a predator.
0 likes@Clarence Worley Oh yes, I'm defending her so hard and sympathize with her so hard! That's why I said she deserves 40 years in jail right? Do people like you even read?
1 likeAccording to your logic we could just put life in jail on anything we don't see ourselves doing and 'they got what they deserved', good thinking.
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke by my logic there are reasons I could kill someone, Rob a bank, and commit a lot of crimes, but under no circumstance would I ever have anything to do with a little girl getting raped and murdered. It's one crime that that can't be ever justified in any way. Most people have the ability to kill and Rob if the situation fits, and most people wouldn't be able to do that to a girl under any circumstances. Understand the logic now genius?
0 likes@Clarence Worley Yeah sureeee, people wouldn't be capable of doing so right? Oh wait, World war II anyone? It's not that long ago where normal day to day people turned into the kind of monsters commiting atrocityes (idk how u write the word and idc), or how about the prison experiment where they also took 2 groups of normal people?
1 likeBut hey, if u ever kill someone I can just tell their parents that they would've done the same and we're fine right? What a way to run the justice system.
Also nice how u just skipped the part where I'm defending her, scared of making yourself look more foolish, yet chosing to insult me in your last line, nice
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke I didn't skip anything fool, read the other comment. WW2 argument you are really reaching on that one, but ww2 has nothing to do with this
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke no you're wrong 1st if you read the other comment I said you saying exact same thing her defense attorney would say and want a reduced sentence. 2nd what a few people did during a war is not what most people would do. Understand now?
0 likes@Clarence Worley first part of what u write makes 0 sense, idk what ur even typing. 2nd part, try millions. Also try many well documented study's. Understand now?
0 likesI was looking for this comment! What a sick nasty vile creature. The fact that she was 18 and a woman herself makes my blood boil
0 likes@elbachsito ādonāt wanna defend a criminalā goes on to defend a criminal
0 likesshe is just as worse as this PoS imo. Tori might still be alive if she hadnāt lured her away to look at a āpuppyā. Sorry pal, but at 18 years old you know damn well that if you lure a child off someplace that that child is never coming back.
You should feel ashamed imo for even attempting to justify her actions by saying āmaybe she was coercedā. She was an adult who lured a child off to be raped and murdered by her friend.
I agree.
0 likesAbsolutely
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke She was a legal adult that was involved directly in a premeditated murder and committed a kidnapping of an 8 year old. Very hard to justify much less when you really say it all out loud.
0 likes@elbachsito sure she wanted to please him but idk if luring an 8 year old who doesnt know any better to her death is the best idea to do that
0 likes@elbachsito she knew better.
0 likesYes
0 likes@O O so true
0 likesā@elbachsito an 18 year old is not a kid. she was not some naive puppet in this, she knew at the very least that this child was going to get raped. there was also no mention of him coercing her to cooperate. also, she had plenty of opportunities to call the police. so yeah, you're wrong.
0 likes@elbachsito I'd wager if the other person were male they would get zero sympathy and no one would be suggesting they didn't deserve it.
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke they dont say this in the video but she was also charged for the murder and connected. google it
0 likesshe deserved life sentence if not more.
@Yogibearemployee I am so sorry I have two sisters I couldnāt imagine what would happen to the both of them if they were gone I would be in total rage and vengeance
0 likes@Sharangan S Thanks for letting me know she was charged for murder, that explains it to me!
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke lol no problem
0 likes@elbachsito ive heard she dealt the death blow.
0 likesMAyby this helps she delivered the final blow
0 likesFor people downplaying her or acting like she was a victim, she had assaulted multiple people prior to this, microwaved a dog, and was very troubled way before meeting this scum bag. Theyāre both sociopaths.
0 likes@elbachsito she later admitted to administering some blows with the hammer herswlf
0 likes@elbachsito 2 months old but oh well read another comment saying she admitted to hitting the girl with a hammer in prison. Take it as you will
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke she admitted to handing Michael the hammer.. she was very much involved and lied about how much she wasnt involved
0 likes@elbachsito she was 18, an adult, with a mind of her own she couldāve easily not done that itās easy to yk not try to harm a kid. Donāt try to justify what she did with being young, she is sick and disturbed.
0 likesShe's just as guilty. She facilitated it
0 likes@elbachsito she was 18, that is old enough to know not to abduct a child
0 likes@elbachsito I'm 17 and I know that if a grown man asks me to lure a minor to him I know that's gonna get into some deep shit, and I would have probably known that since I was 13 or possibly before. No excuse for all, what a monster, both people.
0 likes@Julie Exel she has a past of violence including microwaving dogs. She testified that she kicked, broke rips, and ultimately killed the girl with a hammer. I would consider her a monster but to each is own.
0 likesYes!
0 likesAbsolutely agree. Pure evil, just watched her interview too
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke If she was an 18 year old man instead, I wonder if you'd think the same? She kidnapped a kid, and was there as she was molested then murdered. She sheds tears and says she turned her head away, but so have many women who have been involved in these cases. What if they hadn't been caught and he offended again? In my opinion, it's as if she beat that kid to death too. She should be severely punished because she complied with it by remaining silent.
0 likes@elbachsito she knew damn well what he was going to do...she lured a little girl to be raped and murdered and you're making excuses for her?!...nothing to do with age, you know what's wrong and right if you're a decent human being ..she's almost worse than him because a woman should have protective instincts towards a child...she's right where she should be!!!
0 likes@Great Minds101 My remarks would be the same if it were an 18y old male.
0 likesof cours she is
0 likesAbsolutely
0 likes@elbachsito hey could you go over a girl so we can play barbies. She knew exactly what was going to fucking happen
0 likes@elbachsito how the hell is this, get 385 likes. Yes of course the innocent little woman who lured the girl to her death is just a magical fairy princess at 18.
1 likeShe can go to war, she can drive a car she can vote, she can buy a gun she can lure a girl to her death
@Aron Vanhaeverbeke without her he would have never had a chance to do it
0 likes@Kantanen Akseli an emotional response to this sort of crime to someone who doesn't think the lady deserves life after hitting an 8 year old with an hammer, seems normal behaviour. She be fooking dead if that was my girl..
0 likes@Mastashake I think anyone who doesn't think she doesn't deserve death, have thought about doing similar or even have done it. Makes me sick.
0 likesShe was upset when she went back to the car not cause he was hurting the baby cause she wasn't getting the attention.
0 likes@elbachsito at 12 i would have known not to do something like that.. she deserves to rot every second of her life like the monster who physically did that to the little girl.. just cause she wasnt the one to rape and kill her doesnt mean she wasnt responsible for it.
0 likesSo glad as i said in another comment. This is probably the first time in Canadian history she didn't receive female privilege. She actually got the same sentence as the man.
0 likes@Fredrikbb good! Sorry i dont know if my comment was in aa reply ro yours or whoever elses but someone mentioned that she doesnāt deserve the same punishment and i believe she most certainly does, im glad she got the same sentence
0 likes@savannah locke No i dont think it was. I was just referring to my gutfeeling (im Swedish) and i believe here she would've gotten away with alot less time.
0 likesThe last statistic i remember in Sweden is Females get 30% less prison time for the same offense (especially the harsh once like murder, childrape etc). Sometimes even less. But our justice system is reverse compared to the US. In the US alot of crimes are judged to harsh. Whilst here in Sweden almost all crimes are judged way to lenient.
Yep she participated a lot more and got lige in prison too.
0 likesThe girl being 18 doesnāt matter she knew what she was doing it would be different if she was 13 years old.. but if you hear a young child calling ur name for help automatically would call the police or get some help , also she lured the child to the boyfriend .. doesnāt she think of why her boyfriend would ask for an 8 year old child she is sick and deserves her sentence of life.. no excuses even if a 16-17 year old child was dating an older guy and asked them to bring them they know better when I was that age you know better there is NO EXCUSE FOR THIS SHE IS JUST AS SICK IS HE IS !
0 likes@elbachsito No Terri was actually the one who murdered the little girl. You can look it up if you want
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke She definitely deserves that an more, nobody could've of imagined she was the killer, but she was.
0 likes@Ghost of GG that's gross man. And even though youtube won't remove, your comment was gross and sexist
0 likes@elbachsito Then you fell for her game. After the trial more evidence came out, shes actually the one who delivered the killing blows to Tori. She spilled the beans in 40 minutes because she realized the best thing for her self interest is attempting to pin everything on her boyfriend.
0 likes@DesFighter demagoguery
0 likes@elbachsito I mean, while I can see where youāre coming from, if I was Toriās mother, I wouldnāt care what that woman was going through cause at the end of it all, Terrilynn still lured that child into his van, and led her to her death, and even if she was alive, she was lured by that woman to a place where she was psychologically traumatized irreversibly. She mightāve been 18, but she was old enough to know that it was wrong.So thereās no sympathy from her on my end.
0 likes@Aron Vanhaeverbeke violating human rights gets jail time. The other societal restrictions are just add-ons based off of the emotional toll the crime took on all parties.
0 likes@elbachsito She was 18. She is old enough to know that being told to abduct a young girl is not something you do. Regardless of how she thought it would end.
0 likes@housecat what yāall donāt seem to understand is that he needed her to lure the child to him. This is what makes her just as guilty. Without her, he wouldnāt have ever had his chance. She was an adult and deserves to rot in jail for the rest of her life.
0 likesWhy do you need to even state that
0 likesPeople need to learn to chill tf out in these comments. These two are in jail already, your righteous anger at people who disagree with you is wasted and pointless
0 likesDefinitely
0 likesthe woman later admitted to deliver the blows that killed her
0 likes@elbachsito would this crime happened without her complicity?
0 likes"He's a monster. She's a monster".
1 likeAt this point what does monster even mean?
Not trying to condone or anything, but this is the kind of thing is part of the problem.
He's sitting there saying nothing because you're not giving a chance to talk. Is this a interrogator or a preacher?
0 likes1st detective : *talks calmly *
3001 likes2nd detective: SO HERE'S THE GIRL THAT YOU KILLED
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When he talked about how Michael was gonna be making googly eyes with the other rapist in his glass cell, I fucking lost my shit
266 likes@StackerTheEOD time stamp pls ?
7 likes@Avi Trivedi 54:38 enjoy
44 likesHe almost made me come clean of crimes I didn't commit, I shat my pants when he said "I'm the lead investigator"
78 likes@StackerTheEOD based
6 likes2nd detective playing bad cop is sgt. Smyth of the Russell Williams case. He's a legend. This guy stood no chance.
41 likesThe first dudes voice is so soothing too Lmfaoo that Canadian accent would probably have me admitting shit I didnāt even do
22 likes@StackerTheEOD lol enjoy hahahaah
3 likesJim smyth. Hes the best
3 likes@Avi Trivedi 33:30
3 likes@Avi Trivedi 33:35
2 likesHas the same energy as "28 stab wounds"
2 likes@StackerTheEOD lmfaoo and he was taking about Paul Bernardo
0 likesI remember being in 6th grade in Woodstock when this happened. This is the first crime doc Iāve seen where I actually have heard of it prior to the video and it really brings what Iām seeing back into focus. These crimes terrorize entire communities and leave families in ruins. Rest in piece Tori. It hurts seeing the perpetrator so self pitying when they had no pity to speak of for a CHILD.
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Im from Stratford Ontario and I remember when this happened a whole gang of us wanted to go find the pricks that did this before the cops did and deliver them to the parents!!!!
0 likesThat detective is such a bad ass. His final words to the killer were so haunting. Keep fighting the good fight against the evil in this world
66 likesIt pissed me off when he said, "Losing my life!"... what about the life of the 8 year old girl that you robbed her from??
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She was only a baby. It isn't right
17 likes@PinkOld
1 likeI think you speak from the heart.
@Clifford Gill I do. >:-)
1 likeYes and the parents, sisters, brothers, granddads, grandmums etc. etc. etc. etc.
1 likeExactly my thoughts too. He violently ended a sweet girl's life and all he's concerned with is losing his? How sick and pathetic!
15 likesFucking right Luke. Best comment on here
2 likesStoning is too good for this crime. Let the family have the priviledge.
1 likeExactly!!! I said the same words. Despicable and a waste of flesh.
0 likesReally idk how these detectives do this shit and not snap
0 likesThey have missing baseboards in that room. Iāll replace them for $300
0 likesThe level of restraint to not just smash his head against that wall a good few times is impressive, I have a lot of respect for those interrogaters. Being able to walk out of the room and go home to your family knowing that that guy is gonna be back on the street at some point is something I can't even imagine.
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Life without parole for 25 years...
16 likesDunno if thereās a single Canadian parole officer that would take the responsibility to let Rafferty out, ever.
I can't imagine the level of patience the interrogator had. These disgusting people make my blood boil with rage.
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Agreed, if I were the interrogator i wouldn't be able to not attack this sicko
20 likesSick
1 likeI've been watching a bunch of these videos, and I'm really surprised by the level of cool professionalism these investigators show...It's also funny to see how many people (not you) that get offended by those tactics. Like talking calmly to put the suspect at ease and get the confession is "too good for them" and the cops should be beating confessions out of them or something.
12 likesIn a way the interrogation techniques already do that but in a slower nonviolent way. Watching the suspects break might give satisfaction enough.
1 likeNo doubt
0 likesI realize that they have to maintain their composure and professionalism in order to get the perps to talk, but I'm sure that inside they're just itching to read them the riot act instead or cave their heads in.
I'm quite sure that, most of the time, whether they get the perp to talk or not, they conclude the process with the most brutal tongue lashing that they can hand out, basically as was done here.
The interrogators would probably need that, if for nothing else than to not go insane from having to keep all that rage bottled up.
It's gotta be satisfying slow rolling a dude, though. Knowing all the friendly rapport stuff is just wrapping on turd filled gift box. You made sure one of the last things they felt before losing their freedom, was deeply betrayed.
0 likes@Krowley Pineapples the fact that you don't have the same reaction is concerning.
0 likesSame. I'm glad they have people like the detective to get a confession. I would definitely violate the Geneva convention if I was in the same room
3 likesShe wasn't crying when she lured that girl to her death.
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She was actually the one who struck the child over and over with the back of a claw hammer
336 likes@Dustin McCoy for real?
53 likes@Bimmer Team yes u can read about it online
101 likesThese kind of people only cry because they know they are done.. If they wouldn't have been arrested, they would probably not have shed a single tear..
444 likes@Bimmer Team thats even worse
20 likesMakes me physically sick.
58 likes@Dustin McCoy You can tell from his reaction that heās not the one who done that part of it. I always thought that from the interrogation
37 likes@Sam Kopp No sbe would be considered just as responsible. They probably made a deal to testify against him to make sure he was committed. She's as disgusting as he is.
72 likes@Mehki being an accomplice is not the same as being the preparator. Especially since she gave a detailed account and confession with clear remorse.
37 likes@Sam Kopp under American law, you don't have to pull the trigger so to speak to be guilty of a murder. You don't even have to be there. If you hire someone to kill someone, you are guilty, even more so. She lead the little girl to him, she would be considered just as cupable under the law. Apparently, Canadian justice agreed. She got life and he got 25 to life.
53 likes@wate nallace But didn't they both got life in prison without the possibility of parole? That's what he said at the end of the video.
16 likesatleast she shows emotion unlike him
1 likeNeither was heš
0 likes@Mehki Yeah its true that being remorseful doesn't change what the person did or the fact that theyll serve time. But it can affect the judges decision when determinjng the length of sentence. (Like in Dalias case.)
3 likes@Sam KoppI've said this before. But under abdomen laws, If i hire someoneto kill someone and even though I'm not there. I'll get punished even more than the killer. She kidnapped the girl. That's a felony in the states and lead her to her death. So either she pled or for some bizarre reason the DA didn't think he could get murder one on her. You know, because her tears are so convincing /s š
4 likes@wate nallace She got life in prison for pleading guilty to murder
7 likes@Sam Kopp nah just look at the Casey video to see how women get treated way lighter than men by the criminal justice system. Know what, You donāt even need to look at one measly video, look at the facts and statistics on things like death row convictions and the disproportionate numbers of women who commit the same crimes as men, evading that sentence
12 likes@Sam Kopp how can you be a lesser evil if you walk an year 8 to her death
10 likes@wate nallace
7 likesRafferty got moved from a maximum security prison to a medium one a couple years ago due to "good behavior, Canada is a joke and does not believe in fair sentencing it's all about "muh feels" for rapists and murderers
@Sam Kopp ummm she bashed the kids head in with a claw part of a hammer...
14 likes@Cj I remember the watching the Casey Anthony case unfold live on television. It was just that she was a woman, it was that she was a good-looking white woman. She obviously did it. No fucking doubt, and she got away with it. It would be truly unbelievable if I didnāt actually see it myself.
5 likes@KingChuckFinley that case is something that will never fail to instantly piss me off when I think of it
5 likesCrocodile tears
0 likes@Mehki she didn't hire somebody to kill the girl. You're thinking of Hitman. He hired her to get the girl for him, not the other way around. She was the accomplice. For her to be the one to hire him she has to be the one that made up the entire plan and she's the one that wanted the rape to be done for it to be the scenario you're suggesting to be true but it's clearly explained that it's the other way around. He was the one that desired help from her. She was the one that actually murdered the girl with the hammer to help him accomplish his goals. Didn't you even watch the video? You're describing things backwards. He'd be considered the one that planned this and under the law, the person whose intent was To Kill, is the one who's in Greater trouble than the Hitman who had no other motivation then money. It still makes the person who helped a shity individual who deserve prison, but you're misunderstanding the law. He'd be the one to get in more or equal trouble for being the one who's intent was the reason the murders were carried out. I'm a law student. I researched this shit a lot.
1 like@SardonicusHello, I watched the video and understood that she brought the girl to him. If you had followed the thread I was engaged in, you would have realized I was giving an example under American laws that you don't have to"pull the trigger" to be considered just as guilty as the person who did the actual killing. If for example you hire someone to kill someone and you're a million miles away when the murder happens, you will still be charged with murder. So whether she bludgeoned the girl or he did, she delivered the child to him and is considered just as culpable under certain laws. But, it seems, they needed her to convict him so she got a lighter sentence. In exchange for her testimony. I'm not surprised in the least with her crocodile tears and "remorse" and she did the bludgeoning. In the crime depicted in the book, In Cold Blood by Truman Capote of the Clutter family in Kansas (I believe) of the two perpetrators, the seemingly gentle one, was the one that slaughtered the entire family. So the fact that she could do it and then fake remorse, well, it's been done before. Great book, read it sometime if you're into true crime. Also there's two movies about how he befriended the criminals to gain access to their stories. Both movies are good.
0 likes@Mehki I was reading the whole thread and din't see anything that led me to believe that was what you were talking about, but since you clarified I suppose I just didn't understand the context since I thought you were saying she specifically hired him to kill the girl, but if that's not the case, then meh. I'm bored of this convo already. I'm just here to clarify legal jargon. My bad.
2 likes@Sardonicus Same here. I know she kidnapped the girl and brought her to him.
0 likesonly when she got caught doing it
1 like@wate nallace they got the exact same sentence
2 likes@Sam Kopp they got the exact same sentence
0 likes@Cj they got the exact same sentence
0 likes@L S ātransferred from prison to the Okimaw Ohci Healing Lodge for Aboriginal Women on Nekaneet First Nation in southern Saskatchewanā. Yeah theyāre definitely being treated the same, and to make things worse she can actually try for early release in 3 years
2 likesExaclty. I saw someone saying that her life must have been bad and she just wanted to see him behind bars and that she should be helped or some shit. Idk what the hell goes through some peoples' brains. She was the reason they got the child in the first place and the only reason she talked is because they brought her in and confronted her.
1 like@Sardonicus there is no crime called accomplice. She is guilty of the crime itself for being a part of it and you know.. doing it
1 like@Sam Kopp but.. She bashed the little girl's head in with the hammer. How is that not murder?
1 likeso detached from people. I get it . we suck . but when did this man suddenly change. the way he thinks that he "doesn't need to answer to anyone" . how far this is from the bible and judgment ...
0 likesMike: āI DID NOT DO WHAT U THINK I DID!ā
439 likesDetective: āSure u did but weāre past that...ā
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Ya havent even touched your donut
1 likeMichael: Molests and murders kid
1357 likesAlso Michael: "tHaT cOp wAs mEaN tO mE"
I wonder why
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lmao right if anything that "bad" cop was as nice as i could ever be
49 likes@nabs yeah man. stick me in that room and at BEST I'm screaming my fucking head off at him, at worst I'm gutting him on the table to listening to the noises he makes
30 likesTo be frank, cops are bad with anyone. This time just happen they were justified.
4 likesI was ur 1000 likeš
1 like@P undoubtedly, but YT gets touchy when the "R" word gets mentioned and I don't want to this video to be throttled because of it
0 likes"Know what a psychopath is mike?"
4369 likes"Never met one"
"Well i just met one tonight"
This detective should be charged with manslaughter
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this comment shouldnāt be that funny but it is
145 likesHe even wanted to punch him up. Killed it at the end and walk out like a man. He was great
66 likes"Mans laughter"
66 likes50:30
40 likes@eddie pas yes, thank you that is the time :)
7 likes@ExplosiveIronSN Just in case you wanna rewatch that murder.
18 likesMans laughter
7 likeshe should be charged , it is illegal to own someone ...
11 likesYou mean mans laughter! He didnāt the cop didnāt kill anyone
5 likes@KrissyRose Animallover2021 by the way he burned him it could be considered arson
14 likesI read the detective in an Australian accent. Worth it! "Boom, headshot!" Aaaand we are done here!
2 likesYes, he's savage!ā
2 likesHi Canada!ā¤
1st degree savagery
1 like@Grahf Zero haha ever since I watched Ozark I think of that line all the time now
0 likesWhen does he say that?
0 likesYep heard that guy before on several of these murder cases. He seems extremely skilled at what he does. This was more that we wanted to rile him up but still perfectly executed.
1 like@KrissyRose Animallover2021 Huh?
0 likesMans laughter lol.. You can see a therapist here, or you can see a therapist in jail. The difference is the one in jail, is the-rapist...
1 likeI say the detective should get a raise because he nailed this guy on the head with his interrogation.
1 likeDude that was so funny sorry š
0 likes@Julia Hart hmmm... dunno if that's enough?
0 likes@ExplosiveIronSN true true
0 likes@Anatolian kangal wolf mike's my pickup boy and my cousin, me and mike's mum are coming for Ur poo
0 likesNo shit. There were 2 murderers in the room at that point.
0 likes@Mad Mike r/wooooosh
0 likesWhy should the detective be charged with manslaughter?
0 likesThis comment gave me a lot of dopamine! Thank you !
0 likes@OSSS Boys šššššššš
0 likesA monster and a coward.
0 likesIt is so infuriating to see and hear that goddamn excuse of a human being say heās scared about ālosing his lifeā for his crimes and whimper and cry because he got caught. Clearly, since he killed an innocent and defenseless child, he was zero fucking regard for life at all. This interrogator put that man through psychological hell. I hope he feels that anguish for the rest of his fucking life. No person who kills and sexually attacks a minor deserves to live. That little girl had such a future. She had a family. She had friends. All she wanted to do was see a puppy and give her mom her butterfly earrings back. But yet Tori was led away, raped, and killed for no other reason than because some gross prick wanted to. I hope he rots.
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she was literally a minor
1 like@VisigoĆ¾ send trigger happy cops to them. 2 birds with one stone.
14 likes"Michael why dont you show us your ID?"
"Yeah su-"
"HE'S REACHING FOR A GUN" Proceeds to unload 56+ bullets into him
I had an increasing urge to stomp him out while watching the video especially when he was crying about how they would write down that he ate. He cared so much about himself, but had no care about Torri when he was murdering her.
13 likes@AboveAll wow. Just wow.
22 likes@Maruhodo awww poor little snowflake
0 likes@Hopsta ontario doesnāt have the death penalty so this guy will rot in prison and the prisoners will punish him on behalf of everyone
6 likesIām very protective of my kids. But im feeling an escalation of my situational awareness now that ive seen these videos. Because they people seem normal if they were on the street. No way you could know. Not like they look like quasimoto monsters they are. My kids will do martial arts hardcore. Not to fight other kids. But to learn situational awareness and defend themselves against ANY given threat.
2 likes@Hopsta line em up
4 likes@Hopsta He can't be killed by the system but criminals don't take kindly to cases with kids.
4 likes@AboveAll can't believe you're actually defending him..
11 likes@Seyam Rahman Sounds mighty fine to me.
0 likes@roach If you want to prevent things like this happening in the future, it's better to get a correct picture than a biased one.
0 likes@roach For instance, some people hate all women, but have no problem with men. So if someone clearly loves his son, you might think he's not capable of doing horrendous things to a girl. It's not in defence of the criminal, it's a way of staying alert.
0 likes@harry nac what are you talking about?
9 likes@VisigoĆ¾ that isn't " doing more for society" its regressing it to a point where vengeance and strong emotions rule the world. We are a civilized society, and we should act like it.
0 likes@roach you better ignore these guys, they do this for attention is all, and they don't deserve any.
3 likesI feel the same way. It is sickening watching him be sad for himself after he took an innocent childās life.
1 like@AboveAll you arenāt completely off since he clearly does care about his own life. I find it hard to believe he cares about anyone elseās life.
2 likes@harry nac I dont have to be polite to triggered snowflakes over the internet. its not required and by no means is the internet the first place to expect anyone to be polite to everyone.
0 likes@WK nice account by the way, not even a year old :) seems you are the troll
0 likes@AboveAll You've been in this thread for two weeks holy shit we have a tank troll here boys he probably weighs as many pounds as he times he's been bullied
1 like@WK why are you so triggered by me? is it because you dont like someone making a valid point, or do you think ive ruined your potential troll game on everyone in this chat?
0 likes@AboveAll Bro I can smell the grease
0 likes@WK LOL the little troll is trying so hard :)
0 likes@AboveAll You don't have to be polite, but you don't have to be rude either, even though it's a tradition on YT. It's also a tradition to think that people who do horrible stuff are 100% horrible. You didn't fall for that one.
0 likesThe comments on this was a journey.
4 likesBack to the case
I recall this story. How ashamed I felt, that we let monsters like this breathe.
You damn right that is beyond evil breaks my heart for this child beyond any words I can describe, God will take of them for harming that precious child, she is at least in heaven no more pain or suffering
0 likes@Hopsta The problem with this is when you draw the line where there is no doubt of their guilt.
0 likes@Pain Nightmare š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesThat's why the detectives go through training so they don't get emotional in front of the suspect
0 likesI have a question. Why do they offer the suspect blanket? Is that suppose to comfort them or sth?
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Same thing I wondered he should be left to get as cold as his heart or as the baby he killed such an evil guy
1 likeCanadians gotta have their Tim Hortonās! š
0 likesAll Iād need is a claw hammer!!!! Start at the toes and work my way up!!
0 likes"We're done"
4191 likes"Is that what you said to Tori before you killed her?"
Jesus Christ
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Imagine having dealt with stuff like this enough to have witty comebacks ready for a child rapist and murderer. TBH I get so emotional just hearing about this stuff and these guys deal with it, talk to the mother, meet the criminal, I can't even imagine the toll it must take on your sanity.
343 likesThis detective doesnāt look older than 50 but makes me feel like heās got 35 years of experience. This detective was brutal
136 likes@Neysiriss pmm
0 likesshortly after:
121 likes"I think you're a funny man"
"I think you're a cold-blooded killer"
@Jose Martinez that one was actually my favorite lmao
10 likesTimestamp?
5 likes@Jojo Bear 52:38
12 likeslol
0 likes@Neysiriss It's massive. I grew up around law enforcement and some of these detectives and investigators can't even sleep through the night after dealing with enough of this type of stuff.
16 likesJesus Christ is Lord
1 likeGot em!
0 likesHow the detective can say āyouāre not some sick guyā with a straight face is beyond me, the professionalism is maaaaad
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The way I think about it is that he must secretly finish the thought with āyouāre a goddamned monsterā in his head. Thatās the only way Iād get through any of this.
22 likesHe said it to get him to talk bozo
2 likes@Julian Sanchez yes we know. Heās just saying how itās crazy to hear out loud even if itās a lie to get the guy to talkā¦
8 likesI would've club the guy the moment he says I'm too "sick" to talk
4 likesGood opportunity to take a snooze while this officer exercises his jaw. Iād confess to anything just to shut him up.
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A interrogation technique so effective it works through video
0 likesHe's so clearly in withdrawal. Sick, miserable. Perfect for an interrogation!! Glad he was in pain every single second.
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I thought the same thing....
2 likeshe is beyond dopesickā¦.. BUT he wasnāt dopesick when he did all that to that little girl.
2 likesPrbly my favorite video
0 likesGod, imagine this detective being your dad, and he catches you coming home late one night. He'll talk to you until it's your bedtime 3 days from now.
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Then he calls his partner to rip off your blanket when finally getting sleep
100 likesHis children probably have inherited his skills.
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2 likes@Ce Be āGet rid of your fucking security blanket and go to schoolā
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0 likes@Enflamed Huevos šš¤£šš¤£
1 like@Ce Be omg THIS! LMAO Best comment of the day!!! Made me laugh out loud man lol š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesLMAO this is hilarious to me because this is literally my dad. It definitely taught me to tell the truth right away; but even then heād still go on and onš¤£
3 likes>your curfew is 00:00
4 likes>you come home 00:02 to see your father, detective Okay sitting alone in the kitchen with only a table lamp turned on, looking at you nodding slowly as to signalise you should sit down at the other chair perfectly set directly in front of him, while he takes off his glasses, starts massaging sides of his head with his hands, sighing with contempt. While sitting down you notice your mother is standing in the living room seeing this scene through the open door in almost total darkness, but as you notice her she starts closing the door slowly, and says - so quietly its pretty much a whisper - "ill leave you two alone"
You have some explaining to do, okay? Thats reality. I cant change that, okay? If this is something that got out of control that you didn't plan or planned to come back earlier, or just go for a ride, thats fine... but it got out of hand, we need to talk about that, okay? You need to sit and explain that say... why, okay? If not, then i say people think the worst until they know... there is no other way, you don't have other options, theres nothing else that you can do to change whats happened, you cant turn back time, however you can explain how things got off the rails... Are you some kind of monster, or did you make a mistake?
As 30 minutes of his lecture ends, you slowly start to speak again.
1 like...
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Dad...
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Im 45, visiting you two for Christmas
We need to have this discussion son, this is reality! Something pushed you to do this!!!
0 likesššš.
0 likesHe used to much much worst shit...I don't think he would careš
0 likesāNow I didnāt MAKE you sneak out right? But the fact still remains you smell like alcohol, bloodshot eyes, sliding your speech, letās be real here you went to a party, now what Iām here to find out is WHAT party specifically. Now in about 5 minutes your mom is about to bust through that door and then my hands are tied I just want the truth right? So letās get some truth happening.ā
3 likesThe first guy was not good and he said ok 4000 times
1 like@Alex Copeland "A little truth is good, don't you think, son? I think it's good. And the good thing about the truth is that it's the truth. Ya know? The truth isn't a lie, son, the truth is what happened. So let's talk about what happened. So you came back late and that's the truth. You're saying you didn't drink but I can smell alcohol all over you. Did someone throw alcohol on you tonight? Who was it? Why did they throw alcohol on you? Come on, you can tell me what happened. The truth is good. Tell me the truth. You haven't even touched your donut."
1 like"This was a mistake, right son? Son, it was a mistake, wasn't it? It was a mistake, son? Son, would you take it back? Would you take it back? You haven't even touched your donut.."
1 likeI bet he has the worst cottonmouth in the worldš
0 likesSometimes I feel they do the long talk when it should have been direct conflict and sometimes interrogators are direct when they should have long talked
0 likes@voracious reader are you related???
0 likesMy dad would lecture me exactly like this, an hour of him repeating himself. It was torturous.
0 likesI respect the hell out of that man. 17 years of this. The sacrifice he must have had to make in his own morals and maybe even sanity to beable to get and prosecute monsters like this.
1 likereaderĀ you're fun at parties
1 likeThe woman could have done anything else to get her drugs. But take a child? She is evil too. There is no way she didn't know something terrible was going to happen to that baby.
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Gives you a disturbing insight into drug addiction. Can turn anyone evil. I've heard of meth addicts selling their own children to get a fix.
0 likesthe guy sounds like ricky and i cant get over it
0 likesImagine having the audacity to say you're scared of losing your life just after you murdered an 8 year old girl.
249 likesomg this interrogator talked almost non-stop for hours, what a champ
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Alex imagine how maddening it would be if you were the criminal...
0 likesIkr the perp couldnāt confess even if he wanted to. Lmao š
0 likesThis interrogator is the most aggressive Canadian Iāve ever seen
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Lolzzzz
5 likesthereās worse
9 likesBut also the nicest
33 likesššš
1 likeHe was about to go play hockey and had to amp himself up
15 likesYou clearly haven't met enough Canadians, Steve up in the forest by me has got a bite force of 1200 psi and can kill seals in a single swipe. Sure he's a polar bear but he's still just as Canadian as anyone else. Just ask mike or the other Steve.
47 likes@Yehudah Goldstein missed the JOKE
2 likes@im100percentg āļø think you did too
23 likes@Yehudah Goldstein ššš
2 likes@im100percentg āļø Clean ur room, Bucko...
1 likeOmg same! Was gonna post that. The canadian interragtors usually offer snacks, soda, tea, and have the cadence of a kindergarten teacher. This guy is gold!!
4 likesHe seems like an american
1 likeHAAAAAAAAA X Even I would confess lol
1 likeLmaoooo
0 likesPerhaps assertive than aggressive.
1 likeJust wait till you meet one of justines trudumbs migrants
0 likesThis is somewhat of a misnomer.
0 likesWho agree with death penalty carried in public for criminals like that?
0 likesRest In Peace, Tori. You didnāt deserve this šš»šš
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@LadyGaGa is hot Trolling takes more subtlety dude
29 likesMilquetoast Eugenicist š¬š¬š¬š¬lol
1 likeLadyGaGa is hot Officer? This comment right here.
3 likes@Alex Flockhart Lmao indeed. He was in another comment thread trolling too š
0 likes@Lord Brain I asked him in another thread what tf was wrong with his forehead. No response yet. Lollll
0 likes@niandra ladie Actually nothing wrong with his forehead, it's more of an illusion. It's more as if his eyes have been shifted down an inch while the rest of his face stayed where it was.
2 likes@LadyGaGa is hot 8 year old gets abducted, raped and murdered. Someone says she never deserved that.
4 likesLady gaga is hot: "maybe she did"
@LadyGaGa is hot Reported to the fbi
0 likes@LadyGaGa is hot Why are you liking your own comments?
0 likesSheās just f***ed up. Very bad š¤š¤
1 likeI have reasons to believe that this channel is funded by lawyers.
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Haha, yep, almost makes me wanna have one permanently hired even though I barely leave house during lockdown š
22 likesLol! Don't get me wrong here, scum psycho criminals are fearful or too arrogant to think they'll be caught and so they talk and give themselves away and that is BRILLIANT. But literally in any JCS video I watch if the dependent was completely innocent I would be constantly thinking about the right to silence and the No Comment rule.
6 likesOr by a foundation called ā donāt murder peopleā
0 likesYou wonāt get away with it
these videos have taught me a few things:
477 likes- ask for a lawyer
- dont be descriptive with ur words
- dont kill people, way too much work to cover up tracks
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YouTube videos taught you not to murder? Sheesh
14 likes@RedTukeGuy itās sarcasm, my dear friend
73 likes-ask for a coke then go back to your cell
87 likes@PirateDragonTurtle lol
3 likes@PirateDragonTurtle āwham, bam, thanks for the cokeā
16 likesHold up, you didn't know not to kill people before these videos??? š³
3 likes@Catfish And Bass I just learned not too as well. Phew! Thank goodness my schemes never went that far!
7 likes@Alexander Erickson ironic
0 likesLet's move the not murder to the top of the list
1 like@PirateDragonTurtle I love you for this lmao
1 likeLearned that last one a bit to late tho...
1 likedon't do it maybe?
0 likes"ya haven't even touched your doughnut"
0 likesI just watched a detective have a conversation with himself for an hour
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Exactly!!!!!!!!!
277 likesYup!
58 likesI skipped to the frozen-in-time-gray-bits cos of the lack of convo. These detectives srsly kept at it for ~ 4hrs!
544 likesyeah it was the same phrases for an hour
203 likesMitchell Trubisky Thank you š I was 25 minutes in when I scrolled down and read your comment šš I was wondering if he ever stopped š¤·āāļøš¤¦āāļøš¤Æš¤Æ
160 likesHe is doing my head in just listening to this....
68 likesThat was a terrible performance on Sunday
13 likesAnimals don't talk.
98 likes@KD Fulton me too
0 likesFr
0 likesYou dont care if you watched that or not.....
2 likesMitchell Trubisky what are u on about?
7 likesMitchell Trubisky you Cleary have no clue how integration Tactics work he has over 21 years experience he also works in criminal psychology if you didnāt like it then why did u keep watching it. Rather the complain
53 likesJoker no it wasnāt you Cleary donāt understand how integration Tactics work. Why did you keep watching it if you didnāt like it
12 likes@KrissyRose Animallover2021 how many times are you going to use the same phrase?
35 likesTotally!
0 likesI was just going to say this like he doesn't even get the chance to say something š³ he was okĆ© in the beginning but later he just talk yo much
9 likesThe trick is to say "um" or "mkay?" As filler haha
20 likesWhy do I find the detective sipping his coffee so annoying.
26 likesš¤£š¤£
0 likesOh! You must be new here!
17 likesLet me guess? You just watched the Netflix Chris Watts case and now you started searching youtube for more documentaries and found this channel.
I literally fell asleep at 27 minutes woke up and i was like surely he is goin to say something now.....
22 likesI guess you have more time on your hands now since getting benched
2 likesThank you for letting me know
3 likesššyesss he just talked to himself
2 likesLmao this guy is good though!! He could talk me down from a panic attack. Lol
18 likesit's not uncommon that this could last 3-4 hours, easily
12 likesso in a way he was pretty good
He might be a detective, but he's also a white guy
5 likesGod no kidding
0 likesit's almost like The detective seems to be almost rambling here, but this is a common strategy used to keep the suspect's mind racing. or something
50 likesIt is a common interrogation technique, if you made it to 18:08 this tactic is explained more in depth and why it was used in this instance.
21 likes@Kelsey Ann is that right? And what exactly did we find out from this criminal in an hour? I'll give you the answer, nothing! Never had an opportunity to speak
2 likesHe was really good though!
2 likes@Dustin McCoy You watch the video, and you notice he took many opportunities to speak. I don't remember if any of them broke one or two sentences. What the investigators "found out" was nothing but the extent of his pathetic insistence, and he was probably never going to give them any more than that. It's pretty obvious if you pay attention to the flow of the conversation that the suspects' relative silence was what led to the investigator's insane amount of rambling, not the other way around. If the detective just stopped talking like a few folks in this thread seem to want him to, then neither of the people in the room would be talking. If its that or slow-roasting the suspect for an hour, why not roast? They have time.
10 likesThis guy's one of those far-gone psychos who'll push for not guilty, no matter their situation, for no explicable reason (unless they're trying to gaslight the cops??? who fucking knows, I'm sure there's a specific term in criminal psychology for exactly what I'm saying). This is one of those people that they haven't been able to crack even after all the big-brain research that departments like this one have conducted. It just be like that.
@Scott Bond Yeah, it takes a bit of time to notice, but he's pretty damn eloquent. And obviously trained for endurance...
6 likesDid the suspect even need to be there ... the detective could have done this without him in the room
6 likesDid the detective even need the suspect in the room he could have done exactly what he did by himself / the suspect being there was irrelevant
3 likesV
0 likesššš my thoughts exact
1 likeGonna stop watching while I still have a soul. Fortunately, I'm only one minute in, so I can get out nearly unscathed. Thanks for the heads up.
5 likesLmao, just waiting like yup he finna crack.... Any moment now
3 likesTy I'm 27 minutes in
3 likesI skipped the one hour conversation
2 likes@love life because he made it annoying
1 likeYes..and I was enthralled
1 likeI do not think that stragiety did a damn bit of good. And I am pro law enforcement.
2 likesFor real
0 likesI think, I would confess just for him to shut the hell up
6 likesLmfao
0 likesššššššššš
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0 likesHes damn good at his job whether the suspect talked or not
6 likesI knowwwwwš
0 likesOMG! For REAL! I was thinking, āSTFU please?ā
1 like@love life I heard it about 3 times then started skipping every time he touched the cup. There's even a name for that, it's called misophonia š
1 likeI can see why the police hate it so much, when suspects lawyer up. Mikey is evil incarnate wearing human skin, but a few minutes with a lawyer prevented him from saying anything incriminating in the process of being grilled by cops for over 3 hours. If there is a truly necessary evil, lawyers are it.
3 likesHe's still a better QB than you š
0 likes@Super Freddy he better be because 1. Heās getting paid millions of dollars 2. Iām 40 and only 5 ft. 8. Iām not a Quarterback and really neither is Mitch the B;tch!
0 likesOmg thanks for the heads up š¤£š¤£
0 likes@KD Fulton 24:15 when i saw this. Stopping now lol
0 likesš
0 likesāOkey?ā
4 likesāOkey?ā
āOkey?ā
How many times?
ššš
0 likesHey Mitch I have a question for you: How dare you?
0 likes@Danny Baum how dare I what danny?
0 likes@Dustin McCoy how dare you ruin our offense for 4 years
0 likesTake a shot everytime he says "okay" š
1 likeThis is not a ātechniqueā. Itās just a thing this guy does. Heās not some mastermind. Heās just a bulldozer that keeps plowing into you until you break. This isnāt psychology. Itās basic bully tactics. It works and god bless him for doing it, but letās not pretend this cop is Einstein.
1 like@Dustin McCoy it is used to make suspect tired, and it is harder to think lies while somebody is chatering all the time. After you get tiered and pissed of you will start talking, and anything you say truth or false can be used against you in court. Rambeling techique works amazing, but needs to be paired with other stuff if you get tiered af listeningg rambling for few hours, some stuff like good cop and bad cop and other tricks start working, because you cant keep fokus so long, also some stuff that is repited bunch of times people tend to start belive, also chatering is used as mabipulating suspect in to some kind of comfession. First cop was chatering tp soften the suspect so Jim's performenc woud leave bigger impackt, also after chattering, silence can be more effective and so on. And chattering in this video works great suspect is tiered and fokused on crime and jail, and not on making lies, and his anexity and paranoia are growing.
6 likesdivawendy in the video JCS literally said this rambling was a tactic used to break down a suspect and not let them disassociate from the situation to make them feel better or come up with a lie fast enough. Itās to mentally exhaust the suspect and break down their defenses
2 likes@YeysBaws! omg! Exactly right!!!
0 likes@Kamil Niewiadomski šššš
0 likesOnly 25 years ? What ?
0 likesI hope you didnt forget to like too!! :)
0 likesGuy makes Chatty Cathy seem like a mute.
1 likeRIP Trubisky
0 likesRight. Thats kinda boss.
0 likesWhat about the investigator
0 likesIf his detective gig goes south I'm sure he'd be great in politics
0 likesš 6 min in no doubt
0 likes@eerr eerr Aye?
0 likesGah dam couldnāt of said it any better fuck lol
0 likesBest in the world though!
0 likesI know!!! I want to scream shut up
1 likeOmg, thanks for this comment. I only wasted 30 minutes listening to this dude talk non-stop. I was fortunate enough to see your comment and know I can skip the next 30!
0 likesyeah this is definitely JCS's worst video. what was the point of it? there was barely any criminal psychology in it, just some guy shivering for an hour.
3 likesi feel bad for him
0 likesYou just saved me an hour of my life š
0 likesMe too
0 likesIts because he has speech maxed out. He has speech 100
0 likesIt's called work.
1 likeThat was a tactic in and of itself....that first 8 minutes was anxiety provoking
2 likes@Killian Maladath They get innocent people to agree they committed a crime and thats wrong.
1 likeNot as dynamic as some other interrogations, but JCS does say in the video that heās employing a tactic to mentally exhaust Michael making it easier to negotiate information out of him
2 likesIt's all intentional to break this monsters mind.
0 likes@Das_Bass Yeah, because the cops' incentive is to get a confession, not the truth. How about simply not allowing police to talk to suspects at all, especially not without a lawyer present?
0 likesImmediately preheats the oven, and cooks a low temperature over time for a nicethroughout.
0 likesThanks, I will skip to the end then.
0 likesMust be some technique he is using.
0 likesMore than an hour :/
0 likesFr
0 likesSwear!!!!
0 likesThat we did bro lol
0 likesGood luck in Buffalo!
0 likesit's to get him to talk. the evidence against him is strong. now it's a case of how many victims....is he a serial killer, etc. talking will get him a chance to be paroled.
1 likeit's canada. if he talks he will be out in 25 years. he's still young. if he doesn't talk he dies in prison.
39:04 he's not playing games. keeping his mouth shut means no chance of parole. they have the cctv, the murder weapon, his dna, etc. they just want him to talk for risk assessment purposes. is he responsible for other crimes?
Detective said okay so many times lol
0 likesLollll
0 likesFr
0 likesWorth it
0 likes@Dustin McCoy he had many opportunities actually. I guess you didnt watch the same video as we did.
0 likes@Abby S. Pumpkins you must be new here.
0 likes@D P what were you watching for anyway then? Interrogations involve alot of talking. If you wanted to watch something less boring, Dora the explorer is on youtube for free.
3 likes@parametalhead ...basically psychology. "tHis iSnt..." well sir, sorry to break it to you but yes it actually is.
0 likes@Anna Witt ? Guess this is your first time or something
0 likes@Alyson Schneider what was your intentions on watching anyway then?
1 like@Killian Maladath police are allowed to speak to suspects without a lawyer. The suspect has to speak up about that and make it known. You new here?
2 likes@Mon ica nope. Nice try though.
1 like@parametalhead it actually is. What is your experience if you dont mind me asking? It doesnt effect my life in any shape or form but im curious as how you could be so sure. What is your experience with being an interrogator? This you also clearly dont have to answer. I just find your comment funny and id like you to elaborate.
1 like@parametalhead who helped you with your training? Id just love to know that. Are you an investigator?
2 likes@Mon ica Iām sure there is a point here.
0 likes@Mon ica There is a question mark at the end of that sentence. It is a proposal of how I think things should be, not a declaration of how things are at the moment.
0 likesIn other words, my idea is that it would be better to prevent police from talking to suspects without a lawyer present defending the suspect. I know it is not the case at the moment, but I think it would lead to better outcomes both regarding the innocent, the guilty and justice in general.
@Mon ica Hey weirdo. Not sure what you're babbling about but have a nice day
0 likes@Killian Maladath I apologize for its a biased opinion. Working on certain things, I dont and cant tolerate a guilty person. I understand legally that is their right but I like when they dont exercise it and give us amazing content like this..
0 likes@Mon ica A person is found guilty in court, not by cops. And this content is an example of someone talking to a lawyer and then clamming up completely. The cops got exactly zero useful information out of him.
0 likesLol yahhhhh
0 likesLMAO!
0 likesheās so good though
0 likesIt is a proven technique............ gathering rapport takes time for a nut case like this
0 likesTrubisky is the goat
0 likesYep
0 likesGiving him every excuse and story; from "you're not a sick guy," to " you feel bad," this interrogation is a fucking joke.
0 likesShittest interrogation. They got nothing
1 like@Dustin McCoy I agree. ItĀ“s easy to see why this so-called "interrogator" failed to make rafferty crack and admit his guilt - which was the main purpose of the interrogation.
1 likeLol, thanks for the heads up. Iām halfway through but Iāll have to sit with them until the end. Heās got great patter.
0 likesSame šš¾āāļø
1 likewell said...
0 likesI loved every second of it
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0 likes@Dustin McCoy doesn't invalidate her point that some people don't understand how interrogation tactics work
0 likesYeah he executed that well
0 likesRight??
0 likesSomeone oil those chairs
3 likesNice guy: "yeah i'll bring you food, take it easy."
1708 likesNarrator: "he was not doin that shit lol"
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@Salman Sabith a miniscule amount
4 likesāNo dote in my mindā
0 likesThe fact that he is acting like a 3yr old child is pissing me off
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Thatās the thing passing u off about him?
40 likesYeah he is not taking responsibility for his action
130 likesSeriously.. crying like a little girl when he's the one who killed one
189 likesHe better stop that then, getting himself errect during an interigation is a bad look
33 likes@Jack yes he isnāt taking accountability for what he did instead he is acting like a child so it pissed me off
54 likesWell you know what they say. Dress for the job you want.
22 likesHe won't be "acting" like a child when he's thrown in general population holding
15 likes@jordan stone blankie, tea, donut, and fake fever and alligator tears the gang's all here
44 likes@[Knox ] He should have been interigated by himself.
1 like@Bronanza......If that officer had been interrogating me, I would have screamed; I did it, I did it and anything else you want me to confess to....Please let me sign the papers and then execute me.....Just shut up, please!
11 likes@dragorn......If this had happened in Florida or Texas, he wouldn't have had to worry about how many years he would have to serve before being eligible for parole.....It would have been death and the only question would have been; would it be the conventional death row line or the express row straight to the needle!.....I vote express!!
10 likesSaaame. As soon as I heard him sniffle I was mad.
11 likes@Jack Yes Jack. Thatās it. You can only be pissed at one thing at a time.
8 likes@Donald Johnson And if it happened in New York City or Minneapolis he would have been given a gold medal and released on parole
1 likeHeās going through opiate withdrawals, that's the reason for his blanket and puke bucket. Etc.
3 likesāGet your fucking security blanket offā LMFAO
4 likes@ArcticXun easily cured by administration of a claw hammer to the head
1 like@Cheradenine Zakalwe smart
0 likes@[Knox ] Don't worry, he's using the blanket for that
2 likesExactly... I would like to see someone clock this creepĀ¹
0 likesExactly...hes a little boy with his blanket, his tea. Give this creep to the little girls father
1 like@Jack I think it pisses him off so much because of what the little girl went through. To act like a crying baby, while the girl you killed probably cried and begged for help..yeah it makes me mad too
0 likesHonestly, Iām kind of relishing his suffering & how pathetic he is. He felt like a big man when he was brutalizing a little girl, but in the presence of actual men, his true colors are revealed. At his core, he is lower than an insect.
2 likes@dragorn š§¢. We donāt rock that way
0 likesYes please please have the general population on him and let them ALL know of him and his crimes
0 likesi know he's dealt with these kind of cases lots before, but damn it must feel so disgusting saying all that understanding and empathetic stuff to a predator, child rapist and child murderer. i'd feel sick to my stomach having to utter that stuff from my own mouth, he's very strong willed to be able to do that and act calm/sympathetic for so long
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From what I'v seen from the JCL binge week.
39 likesDetectives always seem really kind to em, but actually despise them. Tough job.
@TTV_MrJack yeah definitely, I for sure couldn't do it
7 likesId imagine enjoying the shit out of pretending to care, knowingly manipulating a perpetrator to walk into their own demise would feel so satisfying. One less monster free by any means necessary. When i was done and did what i did, id just smile and look them in the eyes, and they'd know from the twinkle in my eye, "i got you".
11 likesI could see him slightly enjoying it. The concept of breaking a man and making sure heās locked up for the rest of his life. I could see him giving a Light Yagami smirk
6 likesIf the end result was having this guy rot in prison or get the death penalty, I'd take him to red lobster and the arcade idgaf
1 likeProfessional interest can ease the emotions.
1 like@herc pow yeah I can totally understand enjoying that aspect of pretending to care. It's just having those words themselves actually leave my mouth that I wouldn't be able to handle,, like saying shit that downplays the victim's death or worse. Bc yeah I wouldn't mean any of that stuff being said, but just hearing it come out of my own mouth would wreck me I think. Idk maybe I'm weak lmao
1 likeHe gets paid a lot of money.. youād be surprised what people do for money.
0 likesThis is a psychology tactic to get the perp to talk more. Besides that the analyst obviously understands the psychology of these types of criminals and knows how to compartmentalize . You canāt work in that field if you are too soft hearted
0 likesThat what makes him such a professional, no emotion, you can tell he got under the 2nd detectives skin first one remained a pro
0 likesI wonder if thatās why they never have a woman doing it?
0 likes@Wabbaās Abode excuse me?
0 likes@āŖ Artsy Ebony Rose āŖ Like woman are more emotional & Iām just thinking I couldnāt imagine myself sitting so close to a sick perv without just losing it. I know woman interrogate people but in cases so gruesome (or worse) never have I seen a woman in there. I hope yāall understand where Iām coming from Iām not saying woman canāt, Iām saying Iāve never seen a case where they have. (Dealing with a child)
0 likes@Wabbaās Abode ah i see what you're saying, sorry for jumping the gun there lmao. i've seen some women in that position before so in my eyes it doesn't make a difference bc they can be just as harsh as a man. i personally think it varies from person to person rather from man to woman. bc there are plenty of women who aren't emotional, and plenty of men who are. but i totally get where you're coming from
1 like@Wabbaās Abode if you watch the chris watts videos there was a woman who was there from the second part of the interrogation & got pretty far with him with the technique of being āempathicā
1 like21:46
1 likeInsert surprised Leo on chair pointing.
the other cops were all like " let's lock him up in a room with cocaine Chris for a few hours and he'll confess to everything"
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It's those damn Timmies coffees š pretty much the bloodline of Canada...
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4 likesimma take a shot after every time he says āmkay?ā
40 likes@Lee Schnake a shot of coffee?? youāll be bouncing straight to outer space after 5 minutes š
11 likesI would have confessed to the Sharon Tate murders. Just to shut him up! :P
6 likesLmfaoooo
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0 likesHe HAD to have done a couple of lines before walking into the room, thereās no way he has the energy or mental capacity to talk like this for so long
4 likes"Ok you ready Cocaine-Caffeine-Chris?"
5 likesChris does a thick line of coffee grounds and cocaine that stretches from one end of a table to the other and stands up nonchalantly
"You know it."
Lmao @ Cocaine Chris
0 likesCryin
0 likesIād be confessing to everything with this guy he broke me down through the phone šµāš«šµāš«šµāš«
1 like@val x5 [the āAQUARiUMā] I'm already seeing sound at this point
0 likesEver since I saw your āwhat pretending to be crazy looks likeā video, Iāve been hooked. Youāre a great narrator and you do an amazing job talking about HOW the detectives manage these interrogations. I also genuinely enjoy you throwing aggressive shade at the people who deserve no less. These officers are so good at their jobs, as are you at making, editing, and narrating these videos. Thank you for taking your time to make these.
701 likesI am not a student anymore, but there was nothing that intrigued me more than psychology. I even considered pursuing criminal psychology. For personal reasons, I donāt feel cut out for it. However, these videos help me learn without the pressure of a classroom. Thank you again for taking the time to make these
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I don't see that video on the channel anymore
1 like@Tarun Kumar it had to get taken down cos youtube deemed it ātoo violentā basically. sucks. it meant the jodi arias case which is my favorite. the way he dissed jodi is fuckin funny.
6 likes@Tarun Kumar try JCS Psychological
1 likeSomeone else narrates. Itās in the description. Itās a perfect marriage of content thought for sure!
3 likesThat was the video that got me into the genre as well, I donāt care for the gory details of the crimes especially ones involving children but I like the psychology involved, itās fascinating.
2 likes@G M Yes, I watched a video the narrator did and he was like watching Jackqulin Phoenix get his award for the Joker. Night and day. I would love to meet the real team behind the script and editing.
2 likesOmg me too! That was the one that got me hooked!
1 likeWhy hasn't he added anymore recently, does anybody know
1 likeIts a team of people making this. The narrator "kinune" only narrates it. Dont think he writes it at all
0 likes@Mina Messer Youtube started taking the videos down because they were "too violent" the owner of the channel decided not to upload anymore since the videos kept getting taken down, there's a statement about it in the community tab of the channel.
1 likeThat was the first video I watched and Iāve been here all night. Happy Friday to me.
0 likesOmg same lol now Iām budge watching all the videos lol
0 likesAfter binging all these, Check out Daveās Lemonade. His channel is SO GOOD. š
1 likeYou're extremely late
0 likesI couldn't sit 3 seconds in the same room with this monster without subjecting him to overwhelming violence and divine fury. These interrogators are absolutely incredible in their patience and professionalism.
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Ugh just the whining alone makes one want to smack them š
32 likesTheu should have fed him to wild dogs
8 likes@Never Trust A Not only get fired, he let's the guy go free. Internet superheroes are never accused of being smart.
2 likesYeah, that would be great if we were in one of those countries that actually do that to suspects like this
0 likesthey usually score high on sociopathy scores that makes them care but still be detached, just like psychiatrist who dont cry with their depressive patients
0 likeswow you're so smart, at least 80IQ
1 like@PuppetMaster peepeepoopoo
0 likesDevine fury huh?
1 likeWhat has ever been accomplished by repaying evil witch evil?
Romans 12:19
King James Version
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
1 Peter 3:9
King James Version
9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.
I swear to God I would of been lost it
0 likesGive me some of your devine fury
0 likesWow so badass so cool
0 likesHoly fluck, I was ready to confess to whatever in order for the interrogator to stop yapping at about 15 minutes.
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Ok but you can just close the video to stop the yapping. Think of the bastard slug of a coward that had no other option. Serves him well
1 likeāWeāre doneā
3531 likesāIs that what you said to Tori before you killed her?ā
Fucking chills man
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52:40
82 likesSavage..but perfect
39 likesThe absolute SAVAGERY by that detective!
28 likes@Catfish And Bass Unprofessional and disrespectful to the victim.
6 likes@Ajax Lewis It was pretty unprofessional.
5 likesUnprofessional? Unprofessional?? Heās sitting across from a man who has already pretty much locked upāa man who kidnapped, raped, and murdered an 8 year old girlāand trying to put so much pressure on him that it will make him crack. To call what he did unprofessional is to have such contempt for the context of the situation as to be completely obtuse.
165 likes@David Warren It was Unprofessional to say "is that what you said to Tori before you killed her" just plain disrespectful to the victim. I would work on your reading comprehension if I were you.
7 likes@Ajax Lewis hes trying to make the dude crack. Itās part of his profession, so I wouldnāt call it unprofessional.
110 likes@hi friede bruh the victim as in the child who has been murdered
27 likes@hi friede Damn dude, you are so wrong about Ajax. I disagree with him, but try to comprehend what you read before you assume the worst of someone. Maybe try to un-flag him or something? Remember "Everyone makes mistakes that's why we have erasers on pencils." -Good Cop Guy
28 likes@Varen I do not have the power to flag somebody. Good day sir.
0 likes"I think your a funny man"
11 likes"I think your a cold-blooded killer"
OUCH
@Ajax Lewis sometimes in criminal profiling a detective has to go off the cuff if traditional methods arenāt working. They may not be the most professional or socially acceptable way to speak, but sometimes that kind of break from the traditional detective mannerisms is what gets the suspect to talk
11 likes@MicahDude No, I mean the victim of the person being interrogated. Work on your reading comprehension!
6 likes@Ajax Lewis then yes I care about the murdered victim. I do not care about the man being interrogated.
1 like@MicahDude That's what I was saying. Concentrate next time you read a comment.
5 likes@hi friede bit overkill, mate
4 likes@Ajax Lewis Micah never said that
0 likes@WikiHowFrog 903 said what?
0 likes@Ajax Lewis that he doesnt care about the victim
0 likes@WikiHowFrog 903 He misunderstood me as you have.
1 like@Ajax Lewis Thats the interrogation tactic my man. Being more worried about "disrespecting the victim" as opposed to getting the most clear and decisive justice possible out of this case is a bit concerning to me. They'll use any tactics they need to have the best opportunity in court for him to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
7 likes@Gage Mason But it wasn't a tactic, it was a cheap shot that didn't aid the investigation at all. I think he just thought it sounded like a cool thing to say at the time. It was a sad attempt at trying to sound badass, but what he in fact did, was somewhat make light of the horrid situation to try and sound witty.
1 like@Ajax Lewis No, it wasn't making light lmfao. And yes, it is part of the tactic. The dude inside serves to comfort him and almost act as if he is there to help, and then asshole comes in to put pressure and stress on him, and then when he leaves that tension is relieved and that change of tension throughout the interrogation coupled with the "good cop"s tactics are intended to make the subject more likely to crack. It's all a part of that back and forth.
11 likes@Gage Mason I'm aware of good cop, bad cop. The quip he made was nothing to do with tactics and was a poor attempt at wit at the expense of the victim's dignity.
2 likesWhy is everyone so stupid in this comment section? I'm dealing with the nadir of dim! xD
@Ajax Lewis often times when you claim to be the smartest in the room, it isn't the case. Yes, it was an attempt at keeping up the "bad cop" persona. The man was the lead investigator on this case at an already esteemed institute in this field. Do you really think that they got there by tossing random "witty" quips at suspects? No. They know what they're doing and it's a common tactic to act exactly how they are acting, "witty" quips and all. You just want to be offended on the victims behalf, which I again find more disrespectful than the very thing you got offended by. You're more concerned with things you find offensive or disrespectful vs the justice against the individual. Stop trying to flaunt your intelligence over others over it as well, as I frankly find that more disrespectful to the victim as well.
17 likes@Ajax Lewis a lot of us understood your comment perfectly, not all of us are trying to be social justice warriors at every chance though. Stop trying to look virtuous to a bunch of randoms on YouTube when youāve probably made sly remarks similar to what the detective said as well.
7 likes@Gage Mason Are you serious with that response? What he said to the accused was on par with "yo mama". He said it for himself. That's quite obvious. It's like the most tasteless "that's what she said" joke (that can be funny) but this officer was just trying to satisfy himself with what he thought was a quick witted quip. I think he was probably quite amused with himself.
0 likesStop attempting to sneak away from my point by pretending you think I feel I'm above everyone else. Focus on the topic.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and call you a troll so you look less stupid. (I'd take it and run, buddy. You'll save face that way)
@Lars Brinton The minute you use a term like "Social justice warrior" I immediately discredit you. Just as I would with people that say they're "woke".
2 likes@Ajax Lewis looks like I hit a nerve with that social justice warrior comment.. must have been pretty accurate.
7 likes@Lars Brinton And you're welcome to keep telling yourself that. If you come up with an original and relevant comment, I'll express genuine saltiness. But we both know you're not capable of that.
0 likesThat being said, please try. I'm actually curious as to what you can deliver.
@Gage Mason Jesus Christ, you're acting like I'm simping xD I have respect for the work the officer carried out. But that comment he made was unnecessary and vulgar. I really hope you understand but I struggle to think how I can make it more simple for you.
0 likesJust ask if you need clarification on anything.
@Ajax Lewis Simping? That has nothing to do with any of this tf? You seem like you're just in your own little world so I'll just leave you there.
11 likes@Gage Mason Well, I guess I gave you a free pass to exit the conversation, silly me. If you want to discuss your bizarre points further, I'm still here. Try not to bail out. I'm willing to talk even if your take on things is nonsense.
0 likes@hi friede lmao. bruh
0 likesBruh, nobody in this comment section knows how to read and comprehend.
1 like@Gage Mason yeah I wouldnāt bother, the dude clearly isnāt too bright lmao
9 likes@420Noscopes Only Lol I am going to say this one more time. That comment had nothing to do with the interrogation. It was a personal quip. Do you understand that or are you acting like a fool on purpose?
1 like@Lars Brinton That's rich coming from you...
0 likes@Ajax Lewis Yes I know I acting like a fool on purpose. Sorry. I wasn't in the best state of mind when I replied. I also tend to reply as if everyone is a bot and not a human.
3 likesThat being said after thinking about it, I don't think it really matters if it is important to interrogation technique.
It seems possible that shoving the murder in their face when they don't expect it can catch them off guard momentarily. Bad cop is not supposed to be nice. He was the bad cop.
@Ajax Lewis youāre arguing for hours on YouTube comments, youāre obviously not that bright and take offense to things too easily lol
7 likes@Lars Brinton From what I've seen of your replies, I think you're a bit of a silly person, but do I determine you're a silly person in general? No, of course not. Therefore I won't judge you on this conversation.
0 likes@Ajax Lewis and there you go again trying to be the virtuous one on YouTube comments after arguing for hours š¤¦āāļøš
9 likes@Lars Brinton you've spent the same amount of time on this as I have.
1 like@Ajax Lewis far less actually and Iām not trying to be virtuous throughout my comments š¤·āāļø
6 likes@Ajax Lewis you were at least 10 comments and a few hours deep before I chimed in.. and to no surprise, youāre still going on
7 likes@Lars Brinton Well of course. I have the decency to respond to you. It would be rude of me to ignore you.
0 likesAlso, it doesn't take hours to write a comment. What's wrong with you that it takes you hours? I understand proof reading but it should only take a few minutes at best...
Jenn I am so sorry for your notifications
5 likes@deej Careful, you might be accused of acting in a virtuous manner.
0 likes@deej I actually havenāt had many! Only just seen this absolute shit festš¤£š¤£
1 like@deej ajax is the human personification of r/iamverysmart someone go get your karma lmao
6 likes@hi friede lmao he was clearly talking about tori, but by all means beat your chest and threaten, so scary
0 likes@Ricardo666 Snowflake? I don't think you understand that term...
0 likes@Ajax Lewis He's making the dude crack. Being stone cold towards victims to receive a reaction is common practice, not unprofessional. He never insulted Tory, he used her unfortunate death in a cold way to induce a reaction that would bring a sense of relief and closure for Tori's parents.
5 likesFunny man... lol
0 likes@Karama He is ptoffedional
0 likes@Ajax Lewis Iād be willing to argue that what this guy did to that poor little girl is far more disrespectful to her than a detective stating the reality of said situation. Just saying likeā¦ š¤·āāļø
3 likesFunny , but the girl killed her
0 likes@hi friede Bizarre response. I donāt agree with that person, but to conclude that they must āhave empathy for the accusedā and are a āpotential predatorā is utterly unreasonable and insane. Not to mention how baffling it is that you think reporting them would even do anything when they havenāt even broken any rules.
1 like@Ajax Lewis baffling comments
0 likes@I dunno yeah Ajax is making a dumbass take but Friede thinking that a bad take makes someone a literal child predator is equally baffling.
0 likes@ajbolt I know, but they are beyond help. I forgot about this thread, so entertaining xD
0 likes@Ajax Lewis didnāt know my observation would have caused such anarchy. Thank you for the entertainment my dude
0 likes@Jenn G No worries, mate š
0 likesJCS knows nothing about opiate withdrawal. Rafferty here is showing all the signs.
0 likesThe Terminator of interrogation, this guy just won't stop.
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ikr, I felt tired watching this... I would confess to anything just to make him stop omg
90 likesHe came ready for war
44 likesHes got alot of stamina. Im a teacher and i cannot speak tht much..
41 likesOk but was it at all effective? They had a lot of evidence already and didnt actually get anything extra
9 likes@Franc Lipovnik I think it's a torture technique. They hate this guy.
32 likesJust another day at the office for the detective, he could run an interrogation in his sleep š
5 likes@Franc Lipovnik yeah it didnāt work one time so they should never try itš¤¦š½āāļø its not hard to imagine that technique being effective.
3 likes@Franc Lipovnik they are fighting for a confession. Even with video tapes, the best evidence is of they confess themselves. I saw another video where the woman didn't confess to attempt of assassination via hitman and she only got 16 years in prison whole she should have gotten much more. So yeah best piece of evidence is confession
2 likesIf I ever see this guy I will walk up to him and just confess
3 likes...like my wife
3 likes@tufert bwahahaha, don't let her see that comment, you'll never hear the end of it.
0 likesback to the facts, i'm "the man", and i know that
1 likeand the fbi forensic lab will simply show that
the jury knows which row you'll be rowing
and they're certainly not showing
any signs that they are going
to let the grim reaper do all the mowing
there's no earthly way of knowing
how many volts will be flowing
or what color your eyes will be glowing
Yes! the detective is all knowing
and the defense certainly isn't showing
any sign that they are going
to stop the switch from throwing
- Roald Dahl
I watched this 2 years ago and this case still haunts me. How could you hurt such a precious child? This world is so terrible š
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It popped up in my recommendations again, I donāt know why Iām watching it I just enjoy seeing that worm squrim.
20 likesHis gf McClintick is even worse - she knew exactly that Tori wouldn't get into a car with a male stranger (after all, it's "bad men" who hurt little kids, isn't that what our parents told us?!). How a woman could do what she did is completely beyond me.
20 likes@ź§WupperElfeź§ seriously. she weaponed her womanhood to make that little girl feel safe so she could hand her off to that depraved animal. itās extremely upsetting
26 likesYou should probably avoid watching this if it's shocking to you. Personally I don't get involved emotionally at all, I just like to see how detective works and how criminals lies.
9 likesEspecially if the other accomplice is a woman..
0 likesPeople are terrible.
1 like@Visassess I was speaking in a sense of the whole entire world needs to have it
0 likes@Visassess and siting in jail isn't fair to the people who died at the same hands. If the person he kills can't eat a warm meal or sleep or anything again cuz there dead than the killer shouldn't b allowed warm food or anything it should be a dark cell with no food or a toilet. It's not fair the people die but the killers can still live jail cell or not
1 likeNo you're breathtaking :D
0 likesNot the world, just certain people in it.
1 likeNo. Some of the people are.
0 likes@e- w- I wouldnāt say sheās worse, but she is the siren who lured the lamb to the wolfs lair. Pretty evil in itās own right.
0 likesit's sickening but people have to accept this is reality, there is no filter in reality
0 likesSAME. I watched this a few months ago and I think I repressed it... bc I honestly forgot I ever even watched it until YT recommended it
0 likesNo sympathy for the woman. Luring a child into a trap
0 likesI find it absolutely absurd that the detective, Jim Smyth, is so incredibly talented he's appeared in multiple JCS videos now. Being able to sit and talk with these monsters without breaking even once is insane. Hats off to him, the man is incredible
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Oh really? Is he the same guy in the Jennifer pan case?
1 like@Nu he's from the russel williams case
4 likesThat's not Jim.
1 like@GOOGLETUBE The lead investigator is actually Det. Staff Sgt. Jim Smyth, the interogator though is Det. Staff Sgt. Chris Loam.
3 likesyeah i have a new found respect for detectives
2 likes@Kamil M Yup.
0 likesSource? Only that comes up if jcs when you type it in
0 likesJesus this detective could talk a gate off its hinges
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dont blaspheme
47 likesš
4 likesTactical stream of consciousness.
75 likesHe could talk a glass eye to sleep.
108 likes@Dat Blue-Eyed Devil he could talk the hide off a cow
17 likes@Dustin McCoy he could talk the rubber off a pencil.
28 likesholywater he could talk the legs off a chair
18 likesHe could talk his way out of a bank robbery
17 likes@Dustin McCoy Holy smokes... he could talk the spokes right off the wheels
13 likesHe could talk a vegan into eating meat
30 likesAuctioneers come to him for speech therapy
27 likesI wish he could talk the issue away from my thyroid. šš
12 likes@ Mitchell Trubisky ur overrated Foles is better
0 likes@Loooool HA OK
0 likeslol
0 likesMitchell Trubisky šššš good one
0 likes@Good Citizen good one!!
0 likesAlmost 40 years of experience, I'm sure his wife and kids love it. ššš
8 likesIt was explained that this was a strategy to keep his mind racing.
3 likesOr get a confession out of a criminal.
1 like@Ricky Spanish Jesus Christ. He could talk the Roman's spear right out of big homies side.
3 likesMitchell Trubisky itās a tactic your Cleary have no clue how integration works
0 likesHe'd drive a wooden Indian crazy!
2 likesSCORE!
0 likesPlease say Jesus with reverence
1 likeMitchell Trubisky for a healthy wage no less
0 likesHe could talk the GOP into voting Biden.
2 likes@Whopper_MAN617 He could talk my ex into feeling remorse
6 likesYou see those hinges? It's not a real thing. They're loose, alright?
1 likeI was about to confess something just to make him shut up
2 likesGees he's rapid fire isn't he? faark doesn't stop after he asks a qstn... alright? Mmkay?
1 like52:40 onwards is why he sat there when this nonse was never gonna talk. It was to torture him.
0 likesThatās the idea
0 likesCould drive a statue to drink lol
1 likeSftu
0 likeshe could talk a holy off itās smokes
0 likesHe could talk the dead into moving spots
0 likes@Sachikora Roku Wife and kids reduced to skeletons still sitting at the table after 40 years. He keeps talking and doesn't notice.
1 like@Carlie Springer I think the boy fell asleep hours ago.
0 likesLMAO. FR. IM SITTING HERE THINKING, āomg heās still talking??ā
0 likesI felt like the Investigator was talking too much. Ok that's a technique but he literally gave him no time to answer
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that was a technique to try and get the suspect to not be able to think of lies and a way to dig himself out of the situation :)
1 likeI cannot stand when people act all āboohoo woe is meā during the initial questioning. Like waaah Iām so cold and Iām so hungry :( like bro you did the unspeakable to a freaking 8 year old.
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I know itās a radical idea but empathy can extend to everyone.
5 likesYea he was going through oxy withdrawal at the time, so it was extra uncomfortable. Which is good.
13 likesJake Glenn Empathy is not reserved for those who do harm to children. That is my view and it will never change. Child abusers, murderers and rapists are sub human and are not getting an ounce of empathy from me.
37 likesTalimorph i agree with this so much
7 likesTalimorph I think itās not black and white as most child abusers were abused as children. However, when youāre above 20 and you plan to kidnap and murder weāve crossed a line and empathy is definitely only there in small doses.
6 likesSuch a sad case. RIP. š
@Jessy Julie oh Hell yea I'm an addict and trust me that shit is absolute Hell. That makes me feel a bit warm and fuzzy knowing he's at least suffering in that aspects.
6 likes@C K it is black and White Idgaf if a chomo was molested as a kid it holds absolutely no relevance. Even if he was raped as a child he most certainly wasn't killed...like how he murdered that child. Whats the excuse for that then....
3 likesFirst interrogation video? Lol
0 likes@The Texas Tickler thereās no excuse. All it means is we can learn not to treat our own kids and other children this way. Empathetically understand, and STOP THE CYCLE. Being angry and obsessive solves nothing. Stop the cycle of abuse and people donāt grow up to abuse. It does NOT excuse their behaviour, it merely explains it and is a WARNING to the rest of us how easily our minds can be affected by our upbringing and environment as a growing child and teenager.
0 likesChildren who were abused can grow up to be abused. No child who was loved and treated with respect grows up to abuse. What does this teach us?
0 likeshurt people, hurt people
Learn from these kinds of people who cope with their emotions (or lack there of) by lashing out on others who did nothing wrong. Remember to be kind to everyone you meet. Especially kids and parents. Be kind and compassionate to your own kids so they donāt grow up to react to situations in their lives with violence or the want to over power another. These behaviours are learned when kids are abused, over powered or neglected. Stop the cycle by being critical and self aware while watching these types of interviews. Be more than just your emotions while watching and imagine how we can fix these problems before they arise. We canāt fix the past. We can only be present during our lives and be careful to put positive vibes into the world. Letās all work with one another and continue to raise healthy adults. Learn from these types of people and their childhoods. Do not repeat.
Put these people in places they canāt hurt another, rehab the very few with strict therapy/teachings and stop the cycles of abuse by having an honest conversation about how these types of people come to be. Be nice to children!
Itās very seldom random psychopathy. This douche obviously was neglected as a kid and decided to cope by horrifically taking advantage of women, eventually Terri who was moved around in group homes as a kid therefore an easy target. Together, they preyed on an even easier target. Disgusting people who never should be allowed out. Doesnāt mean we shouldnāt learn how they got where they are.
As parents and members of a community with kids and teenagers, we can influence positivity. Remember to be present and be kind.
My heart goes out to all the unnecessary victims (including myself) of the cycle of childhood mental, sexual, physical and emotional abuse. RIP to all those who didnāt survive.
I wish healing for everyone who struggled through their childhood. Peace and love. RIP TO TORI. So unnecessary. š„ŗš
Iām giving my babies long hugs tonight and respectfully reminding them how to talk about and through their emotions. Love is the only answer when hate like this arises.
RIP Victoria Elizabeth Marie Staffordš
@Jake Glenn no.
1 likeThe og TimHortons cups is whatās really catching my eye
0 likesI am so sorry for those attorneys who are forced to defend those monsters
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i often think about this. defense lawyers are so hated because they have to try their best to get bad people out of shit.
17 likes@celery. i agree. someone may say how caseys lawyer is a monster for letting her get away but thats his job and heās fantastic at it. (no one beats juan tho)š
5 likesIt's difficult, but if we don't do it for everyone even the worst most disgusting criminals, then we risk slipping into a system where someone with a small infraction/wrongfully accused/etc doesn't get the justice and decency they deserve.
6 likesIt's hard, but it's what's right.
Donāt attorneys get to choose who to defend?
0 likespublic defenders donāt have much room to refuse, in private practice you have more room, if youāre with a firm and assigned a case it might be harder to back out. also once youāre on a case you have to ask the judge permission to back out, which many will refuse unless itās at the very beginning of case or something. thereās layers to it tbh. for the most part though, itās less lawyers choosing clients, more clients choosing lawyers.
2 likesHe's so Canadian
0 likesThatās why pencils have erasers? Really???!!!!
0 likesHoly shit. When that composite sketch came up I was like wtf how drunk was the person who drew this. 10 seconds later I was like wtf that's one accurate drawing.
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šššhahah me to
7 likeswhat time does it appear?
3 likesLol omg I was the exact same!!!;
1 like@Paula Herrera I want to know too
1 likeI agree. I was like what the fuck am I looking at? Then, when I saw her..
0 likes@Paula Herrera 1:47 bro watch the video
9 likesš i swear i thought the same. The sketch looked odd as hell but her actual pic was the same
6 likesSaid the same thing š¤£šš¤£
0 likes@007nadineL
3 likesWho hurt you?
That sketch doesnt look anything like her
0 likesThey look weird because they try to exaggerate some prominent feature of the face a little bit. We don't usually remeber the whole face clearly, but we do always remember those specific features, so the sketches use that to their advantage
3 likes@Irene N Honestly its so wack that we decided that "hey you remember that guy who ran past you and took your phone?"
1 like"Nah not really."
"Better draw him from memory"
"Bro even better ill tell someone what they look like and THEY can draw him"
"Its gonna look like shit right"
"Everytime man"
( People always assume the worst before they learn the facts ) literally
0 likesI'm glad you explained the detective's "rambling". It was breaking down MY psychological stamina! Him being so close to Mike's personal space, talking and talking and talking...I would have confessed to anything to get him to just stop talking!
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My inner Jeff was coming out, and I was like, "Does he ever shut up?"
6 likesSeriously, he reminds me of Mr. Mackey from South Park. Mmmkay?
1 likeI was feeling the exact same thing!!
1 likeIāve watched her interrogation (his girlfriend who was the accomplice) and Tori the precious little girl kept calling out for her while he was assaulting her saying āTT please make him stop, it hurts!ā Man hearing her recall that was bone chilling and so saddening at the same time.. both are responsible for her assault and death thereās no doubt about that
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where did you get tory-linn's interrogation footage ?
3 likes@Basile Cambou swim Jane swim is the YouTube channel, it was recently uploaded about 2 months ago and they titled it āthe evil face of perversionā
44 likesSo disgusting and terrible..
19 likes@Miranda Batten Thank you for the channel recommendation. Iād never heard of that one! š
8 likes@Suzi Monkey theyāre awesome too! :)
5 likes@Miranda Batten thank you
2 likes@Miranda Batten thank you!
2 likesThatās horrendous š
2 likesthat literally sent a fucking shiver down my spine, despicable
2 likesFake news itās not there
1 likeAs a father of 3, it goes without saying that this pathetic excuse for a human deserves a fate far worse than what he will receive. Honestly, give him to Tori's father. Let him inflict the justice he deems necessary.
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I think that is how we should handle all sex crimes against anyone just give the waste of air to the family.
21 likesHeāll at least have a very hard time in prison. He will be the lowest of the low in there.
5 likesYou sound like a great father, Mark. I wish I had someone like you with protection/ action instincts like that. Keep your children close and love them with all you got, they'll never forget that ā¤
7 likesLouisville Sluggers
0 likesDoes it matter if you're a father of 3?
0 likesYES!!
0 likesMy husband and I took in a young man (he was 24 at the time) who we had met, who seemed to be having problems getting on his feet - his roommates had kicked him out, his family disowned him, he had no job and nowhere to go...we thought we were helping this poor kid. A year later, he ended up in a similar situation to Rafferty here. Thinking back to when he was with us and I was acting as a father figure, when I would catch him doing something HORRIBLE, he would cower up in a fetal position, cry and sniffle just like this. I'm a musician, not some police interrogator, and have never had children, so I had no idea how to handle it. I had all the facts and proof, but he just clammed up when I called him out on his lies... Fortunately he is out of our lives, but not til after we had to deal with the Feds because of some illegal "stuff" he was doing while we were sheltering him. I started watching these videos sort of as a way to deal with the PTSD of that whole situation, but I feel like I'm also learning a lot about how to deal with people's lies a lot better. (Obviously, my husband and I agreed not ever again to take in people we barely knew...this was a hard way to learn that lesson!) Some of you are likely thinking I shouldn't have put all that out there, but honestly I am struggling with the memories and figure dealing with it out loud instead of secretly and quietly is probably the better course. Thanks for listening.
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I wish I met kind people like you in real life. I'm a woman in a similar situation to this guy but I agree, most people you have to watch out for. I've tried to help people who I seemed less fortunate than me and it has gotten me used anspd abused
42 likesScott, I watch these videos to get wiser also. But from the flip-side of your situation. Two life- long friends from childhood, who trusted and thought I knew well, recently had lied, manipulated me and ended up ripping me off for thousands of dollars. Two separate people in two separate ways. So even the people you think you know well can do this to you too. Good luck. And forgive yourself first for falling for it, for being fooled so badly by these sociopathic-type people.
38 likesYou definitely should learn bjj
3 likes@Janet Douglas and forgive yourself for having such a big heart you see past these peoples bad traits and thought they were trustworthy
23 likes@crappyatlife lmaooo I mean your comment is really insensitive given the severity of the situation but boi did I laugh hard
21 likes@Janet Douglas Janet...I feel for ya. It's heart breaking š š¢ that "best" friends for so many yrs would do that! ??!!! MY "SO-CALLED BEST FRIEND FOR 22YRS! BROKE MY HEART & FRIENDSHIP ALSO. I ONLY HOPE..ONE DAY? 1 DAY š¤ that they get a heart & hve sme kind of remorse!! I dnt trust anyone anymore! Sad š . Stay sfe . All the best & keep ur head up high! WE R GOOD PEOPLE š š·šØš¦
1 likedon't give up on trying to help others just because of one nasty situation. Look at it this way, maybe the next guy you shelter goes on to be an amazing detective that solves a hundred cases
15 likesMy heart' truely breaks for you both! From what started of as good intentions spiralled into horrific outcome. We have to be on guard even with people who appear vulnerable. Same vice versa for those who reach out to help only to pull you further down. Thank you for telling your story.
6 likesUnfortunately sociopaths and psychopaths are excellent at seeking out good, giving (and vulnerable/naive) people ... to PREY on. It is an unfortunate risk that comes with being a good and trusting person. You're doing the right thing to educate yourself. :-) Good luck in you recovery
7 likes@Janet Douglas Yes... as some people find out (some to never tell the tale) the MOST dangerous psychopath/sociopath is the one that you know very well!!! Think about it!
1 likeHaving empathy like you do isn't bad. You must strike a balance with informed, decisive action against bad situations you recognize. That's the way to not get punished for being a good person. Bad people are generally pretty transparent if you learn their particular tells, and I think that's what you've been focusing on, but what do you do then? You had all the info, you had proof, but then what? That's the real question you must answer. How do you protect yourself while also being a caring, generous human being who would offer shelter to another human being. It's a beautiful thing, not to be discarded, and I fear you're trying to discard it. You don't. You have a right to protect yourself, however.
6 likesA friend of mine (68 years old by now) also sheltered a common friend of ours (he is in his 20s) for almost a year. He helped him get on his feet and now that young boy became a hotel manager. Same friend (68) also sheltered another and got robbed in the end. World has good as she has evil within. Don't lose hope and don't be so naive either.
8 likesWow who was he?
0 likesYou are kind but very naive. Huge mistake to let a stranger into your house like that.
1 likeI love JCS
0 likesYou and your husband sound like such kind-hearted and helpful people. It's horrible that amazing people like you have their kindness taken advantage of. I really hope you both have been doing well since this comment. š
7 likes@Finnigan spoken like a true 17 year old who started BJJ yesterday
5 likesI wish you didn't have to learn it the hard way, people are disowned for many reasons but where I am, it's mostly because of something bad.
4 likesHappy that man is out of your lives and you guys are safe
1 likeWow, that's so amazing of you guys, I admire you, not many people would do what you did. How sad that the kindest, most selfless people in the world are the ones who get taken advantage of :( It's also sad that now you're less likely to do something kind for others because of what happened. Things like this make me lose faith in humanity. Thanks for sharing your story and I hope you guys are doing better now! Just know that most of us appreciate people like you!
0 likesI listened, I understood, and I met a monster personally face to face in my childhood I personally use the same thing to sort of cope with my traumas as well you are not alone and I can see how what happened to you could definitely be traumatic congratulations for coping in a healthy manner you doing good keep moving
1 likeYou have a good heart. ā¤ļø Bless you, I hope it gets easier for you
1 like"not ever take in people we barely knew"
1 likeCmon now, you should have known that from the start. Can't believe there are actually people out there that would let a stranger stay in their home.
distrust everyone to an almost parnoid degree.
0 likesAppreciate your story, and also you should link us to your music to support!
0 likesAs someone whoās been homeless and had a severe drug habit itās people like you who restore my faith in humanity. Itās a shame that someone did something so traumatizing to take that away from you, but I can totally understand and can only imagine. I wish you all the peace in the world.
1 likeThank you for being a kind person. It isn't fair that that happened to you. I hope you can keep your head up and still see the positive stuff in the world <33 stay safe friend
1 likeWtf? "as some sort of PTSD"???
0 likesYou kidding right???
@S T He wasn't a complete stranger. My spouse and I had known him from years ago, had spent time with him at social gatherings over several years. He seemed like just a normal guy who was occasionally down on his luck and needed a bit of help.
0 likes"Get rid of your fucking security blanket and be a man."
159 likesGoddamn that was cathartic to hear.
From a towering monster to a mousy little boy who actually thinks he can lie his way out of this heinous crime. I donāt see shame. I see self pity and denial.
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Shame is a powerful thing
0 likes@DoctaFeral not powerful enough to stop horrible things happen,apparently.
0 likesMaybe I have a different perspective on prison sentences because of the American justice system, but I feel like 25 years is absolutely nothing for a crime like that. I'm always shocked when I see particularly brutal crimes being met with such light sentences in other countries, or at least what I perceive to be light sentences. I feel like in my state, it's entirely possible that these people could have received life in prison or even the death penalty. Maybe it's all just desensitized to us.
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Heard some stories about how inmates treat child rapists in US prison. I doubt that he's gonna live till his realase date.
3 likes@Callahan sure, but even within American prisons you have protective custody for child molesters. I just feel like a life sentence for a crime like that is more realistic considering the circumstances.
8 likesHe got a life sentence. Heās eligible for parole after 25 years, but his crimes were so violent they will never let him back out. Heās spending the rest of his life in prison
21 likesThere's a guy in Asia, think Japan who ate somebody. He's out free to eat another.
2 likesThe life sentence is the others knowing. Anytime he moves, all his neighbors will know. He'll be harassed endlessly until his early demise.
0 likes@Verbal Kint Sagawa never served jail time, but did 4 years in a psychological institute. He's been out for probably over 40 years now and he's yet to harm another person. He's a vile man, yes, but his sentence has nothing to do with this case.
1 likeI agree with you. Sadly our world is filled with murderers and rapists and their is not enough space to keep them. Even more sadly; our tax money is paying to keep the trash alive in prison. Some countries even give the trash education, housing and food with OUR tax money. It makes me sick.
0 likesRewatching this one I really feel for the lawyer at 56:31. One thought that always crosses my mind when watching this kind of videos is how can someone defend such human garbage. It must be horrible to have to grind for so many years to work in the thing you love to then have to put yourself on the side of such trash, so they sometimes don't get the death penalty they deserve
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1. Canada has no death penalty
19 likes2. Defense lawyers exist to ensure that everyone gets a fair trial
Death penalty puts them out of their suffering, id rather have them live to regret their actions.
13 likesAnd lawyers aren't there to get them out of it, but to get them a fair trial. They're fulfilling a need for society as a whole, not criminals.
@V depends on the country. Some counties prisons are like college dorms for example that Norwegian mass shooter Andres Breivik is imprisoned in a nice ass room with all the creature comforts like tv, video games, and more even complaining about how he isnāt given more selections of video games. But in other countries like the US and Mexico the prisons are brutal with a lot of gang violence and inmates always having to watch over their back and having to know prison politics or theyāll get killed.
0 likesWhen I was a little kid I was waking down a Main Street from the bus stop on my way home with one of my friends (he was a skinny black boy I was thicker and mixed we were in 6th grade) and a guy pulled up slowly on us and was asking if weāve seen a puppy running around and we were interested but said no. He was insistent on showing us a photo of his dog and kept trying to get us to get closer to the car. Keep in mind the guy talking to us was in the passenger seat and the door was open he had the door like open and talking to us eventually I kind of caught on to what was going on with the puppy trick and I grabbed my friends hand and ran never looked back. One of the scariest moments of my childhood
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You were a smart kid.
9 likesA similar thing happened to my mother. She was a quiet kid and same thing - a van pulled up with a sicko asking if she wanted some candy. Luckily her cousin was just behind her so he grabbed my mom and sprinted home. These sickos deserve worse than the death penalty. They deserve to have exactly what they do to people done to them by people 10x their size and 10x as vicious.
5 likesWhat was the point of describing your and your friend's physical appearance
3 likes@K. P. yah i didnt get that either
1 like@K. P. if you havenāt noticed race matters a lot in the world. Especially when it comes to hateful crimes and human/sex trafficking.
1 like@Tri Becca if you havenāt noticed race matters a lot in the world. Especially when it comes to hateful crimes and human/sex trafficking
0 likes@Chyna You're right, it didn't click the first time i read the comment because it sounded like she used an opportunity to tell everyone she's mixed lmao
0 likesIām from Ontario and I remember this case being a very big part of parents teaching their kids strange danger. This case always pisses me off.
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As a parent, I quiz my kids, "what do you do if a stranger wants to show you a puppy" ššš
0 likesthe poor girls last moments were so tragic for her, my heart aches for her and her family, this man is so disgusting and this case is only an hour away from me and really makes me wonder how many of these sickos are just wandering around the streets.
25 likesThis is crazy how could someone hurt such a little girl! Love how this detective handle the perp by making him feel uncomfortable for her justice
18 likesThank you JCS this is educational for me in as much as horrifying to hear the accounts of the crimes being committed. Been watching your videos for hours. Made me think to study behavioural science and forensic psychology or something
4 likesI have no idea how the detectives have not only the stomach but also the composure to do their jobs so well. When ābad copā went into detail about dna and the scene of the crime I physically felt sick. I wish they could have broken him, I wanted to see him destroyed. I hope what they say about the fate of child molesters in prison is true and then some. I hope he gets broken into infinite little pieces
3 likesMy partner has 4 children from a previous relationship, the 2 youngest are girls, one the same age as Tori and I dote on them. How these people...if we can call them human...can commit such vicious and heinous acts to a child (or anyone) for a fleeting moment of sexual gratification is beyond my belief. I don't even want to begin to imagine the horror that poor little girl endured at the hands of these beasts. I hope this man and woman suffer for the rest of their lives and beyond.
6 likesMay God grant me the patience,composure and self restraint of those officers involved in this case. Sleep in peace lil angel
12 likesAmazing channel. Please make more videos such as this one. Unfortunately it will be very easy to find another case, but at least weāre all enjoy to see those inhuman people getting caught !!!
1 likeHis behavior is so frustrating to watch during this interrogation. š¤
5 likesI'm sure he has come across fellow monsters while in prison. His lies will not, has not, and are not convincing them as they take from him whatever he may not want them to have. I pray he thinks of Tori every second, minute, hour, day, week, month and year he is in prison. For her parents and family will be(forever thinking of Tori) due to the sentence that he selfishly and with a victim attitude forced upon them.
The family has my thoughts & prayers š ā¤
My heart literally breaks for Tori and her family š. I have a small person close to me just like Tori and if something happened to her i wouldnāt know what to do with myself š¢
6 likesOmmmggg!! My heart broke and sank at the same time at @5:34 to @5:41. I don't wanna think about poor Tori's last moments. She probably know what's gonna happen and she only want someone to save her. I can't imagine the fear and despair in her eyes when she saw the woman leave her with him. May you rest in peace, Tori. Heaven has a lot of dogs waiting for you, my darling.
12 likesItās amazing to me how this detective can hold himself in check and not beat the crap out of this dirt bag.
8 likesThis is absolute class of interrogation tactics shown by these two cops - On the other-side of the spectrum is the masterclass of how not to do it in the JCS vid of the kid who looked like a grudge ghost for the whole interrogation.
2 likesWhen he told him that he was in there for tori making him squirm man gained 1000 times respect from me he was showing that man what it feels like if only we could do more
13 likesIs chemical castration an acceptable punishment? Tory will never have a life again. No child should die like this. So sadā¦ great video. I love the fact that JCS brings in an unbiased perspective to explain the charges. It would be difficult to not show my feelings on this if it were me making this video.
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Maybe physical without any medication
1 likeNo
1 likeRape has many ways to be inflicted and castration just make rapists more sick and perverse
Life detention is great
0 likes@sahtification interesting take.
0 likesSometimes itās hard to be interested in these investigations because learning what happens to the victim and how evil these people are and the disgusting things they do, it makes me sick to think about it and makes it hard to trust people
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Where do you live ?
0 likesPedophiles and rapists deserve cruel deaths like no other. If only the law made it so that they get the death/punishment they inflicted on their victims reciprocated back to them.
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Funny thing is this is not happening from people who also defend children having their own right to behave like what they want (gender and such).. who knows what else they're going to support in the future (maybe child-willing-to-do what they want with their bodies?). Well make up your own mind for that. Let's praise progressivism.
0 likes@Levi Lima what do lgbtq+ rights have to do with body modifications on children? am i missing something?
5 likesyeah, if only retributional justice was a thing. It's not like we have abandoned an "eye for an eye" system because it harms more than it does good. In my mind, people who can think in cold blood that someone deserves suffering, deserve same suffering. Why would you want the murderer and rapist to suffer but not to change ways or at least realize the extent of their transgressions and try to do so? You can't have both, inflicted cruelty rarely go hand in hand with changing ways
1 likeAs for them āchanging ways?ā Do you think a person like that of such wicked nature could āchange?ā You couldnāt convince me, even if he became a reformed Christian man in prison, it would not undo his true nature. He will always be a abominable human being.
1 likekudos to the detective, there is no way I could sit across from this guy without re-arranging his face
4 likeswhat this isnāt: a traffic ticket or a to-do list from your girlfriend
7 likeswhat this is: reality
lmao I love this investigator, he helped me get through this sick fuckās interview and the horrific details of poor angel toriās last moments on this earth. I literally have to only focus on the forensic psychology of this interview or have to turn it off altogether as it has me SOBBING. Such a sick world we live in.
One simple psychological obversation ," if Mike was truly innocent he would've contested his guilt vehemently ! Just think how an innocent person would find this interrogation as outrageous ! You would defend your innocence with vigor !
1 likeThis investigator's ability to talk in circles for almost an hour is impressive
5 likesEdit: over an hour
Is there more complete footage of the interrogation of Terry Lynn Mcclintock to be found? I am curious as to how she breaks and what her motivation was to co-operate with this Michael.
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Yah just search for it
0 likesThe Evil Face of Pervesrsion is the title of the interrogation
4 likes@i . Storm can't find it
0 likes@J J channel Swim Jane Swim had it , however I believe utube has removed it
2 likesBest detective Ive seen so far on this channel. Hes incredible
0 likesIt's absolutely awful that this planet has things like this happening
0 likesThis story made national headlines in Canada and was a top story for many months. The whole situation was messed up.
1 likeThis guy knows that if he's in acute physical withdraw his brain is operating at a major handicap. He knows he has literally no chance at going toe to toe with the investigator. He probably can't even truly comprehend what the interrogator is saying.
1 likeWhat a disgusting human. This broke my heart. What I never really understand though is why they have them sit in the interrogation room for so long if they already stated they arenāt talking? Whatās the reasoning for that
0 likesThe detective's strategy clearly failed and in MYHO it just reinforce the one of the suspect giving him the time and space to set in motion the dynamic of his defence mecanism .
1 likeThe suspect is more assertiv at the end than at the begining. He was first communicating threw his behaviour at the end he, clearly, shut it down, verbaly.
A strategy of engagement with the emotions of the suspect will have had more chance to bring result.
What does the suspect need at the begining ? what does the suspect has to gain from the detectiv's bargain, his credibility ? seriously ?
Help him to deal with his self image, it's shattered and he his battling to restaure one. Following that line will give ways to adress the reality of the fact
The suspect is in a conflict of reality, helping him to solve it, that's his gain; in order to do that, he'll have to expose the reality of his act, that's the gain for the detectiv.
There has to be a mandatory death penalty for those who hurt children.
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I agree !! Sadly In Canada we donāt have one . No matter what you do .
0 likesThere is..... in prison!!
0 likesHow can you feel sorry for him when this is exactly how the little girl may have felt. š may this animal rot in hell.
3 likesThis guy has had the train ran through him many times by now, and itās so gratifying to know that.
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0 likesI just canāt stand this. Itās so unbearably hard to understand. Just heartbroken for that sweet little girl. My heart is hardened toward that woman who took a child by the hand and lead her to such a cruel fate.
1 likeOh man I wanna be like this detective. Heās awesome. And these perpetrators are sick!
2 likesKudos to all investigators, those people have nerves made of steel šš
0 likesDo you before you even said this guyās credentials his first two sentences are already knew this was going to be the best interview I havenāt even watch it yet and Iām making this comment because I already know this guy should work at every police department ever everywhere lots more crimes would get solved
1 likeIām surprised the lady, Terry? Was given a life sentence as well.
0 likesAlthough I suppose with r*pe and/or murder cases, those involved must be shown no mercy regardless of gender. Particularly if their degree of involvement was high.
sickening how hes sitting whimpering feeling sorry for himself after murdering a helpless child
3 likesSilence only makes u more guiltyā¦ the patience of the officer man wow
0 likesDetective: you know what a psychopath is?
6 likesMike: Iāve never met one
Detective: well I met one tonight
COLD
āI just find it funny...ā - dude was crying as he said that. āRight way to go about thingsā he says. āHow can you be so sureā he asks.
3 likesBig props on that āIll bring you foodā and dip.
25 years got to ask myself? Wtf never ever ever to see the light of day.
0 likesThe cop is really good at his job.
He is clearly pissed at dealing with yet a other Bastard. He is nothing else.
Poor baby girl.
Poor mum and family šŖ and friends š¢
So heartbroken š
"what's your biggest fear about being charged with this?"
1 like"Losing my life"
UH WTF. How does he think that little girl felt? He took someone's life and has the BALLS to say he's worried about HIS PATHETIC LIFE!?
they lured her with a puppy. how absolutely and unequivocally evil.
3 likesGod bless Canada šØš¦ love this cop. Exactly how I would work.
2 likesLook how pathetic he is with his little blanket and his āyou donāt care if I eat or notā bullshit. I hope he remains locked up forever.
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he wont. Canada is ridiculous hes already been moved from maximum to medium security and they transffered his grilfriend out of prison into an "indeginous healing lodge" oh and they both will eventually be eliglble for parole
0 likesThis was one of the most horrifying videos I've watched on this channel, but what was wrong with the reporter at the end of the video? was she cold or something?
0 likesI could never be a detective, I wouldnāt even be able to stand in front of them nevertheless calmly say āyouāre not a monsterā knowing fully well that thing is more than that
0 likesI donāt think thereās a heaven, but that doesnāt mean I donāt like to picture Tori there. And I donāt think thereās a hell, but that doesnāt mean I donāt hope Michael experiences a fraction of the horror he put that little girl through in the last day of her lifeā¦
1 likeincredible police interrogation work
1 likeI have watched this lot! I think I Ike it so much because he is punishing this creep mentally and I like it. My favorite part is when he almost pukes, he know he is fucked ā¦ and then the cop comes in after and really adds the icing . I like how Jcs does it too.
0 likesThat guy deserves to be punished for eternity
4 likesI wish we could clone this detective.
1 likeWhat I don't understand how an 8 years old child can walk home from school alone???? children in primary school supposed to be picked up by adults.
3 likesthey have alot of self control and mental fortitude to resist kicking the shit out of this guy. I wouldnt be able to hold back longer than 3 seconds
2 likesAh yes, child abuse. The easiest thing to downplay
0 likesI do wonder what his childhood was like, is he just repeating the cycle? Was he abused as a child? I think he probably witnessed some bad sh!t, no excuses!! Just saying.
0 likesThe Narrators voice is one of The best...and so articulate š
1 likeBring back torture and capital punishment.
8 likesDid that lawyer just say "everybody in our system deserves a frong @56:39....." š?
0 likesAnd this guy is a defence layer? š
What a nice guy Detective Crest Long is.
1 likeI physically cant imagine what happened to that poor innocent baby. My mind wont let me. Im glad hell exists.
0 likesTough, he talked 1 hour, repeating 3 cycles, yet the murder still quiet
0 likesThis is sickening. Its 2022 now I wonder if he's still alive?
0 likesAbsolutely fucking legendary detective
1 likeAfter 11 minutes of that detective`s incessant talking, i`d have admitted to anything.
1 likeShe's the one who hit her with the hammer. So so sick they are BOTH just as guilty and they are BOTH monsters..he just happens to be a demon as well.
1 likedeadass i loved the badcop. man was tearung him tf UP! i loved every second of it tbh
1 like27:30 how many times is he going to tell him "i don't think you're a monster, i think it got out of hand" i feel like repeating this over and over is ineffective. Maybe i'm wrong.
0 likesSeems that whenever the police get CCTV footage it's always bad video, out of focus, grainy. What is the point ? Don't you think the officer droning on and on makes it easier for the suspect to just tune him out? I mean he is literally rambling, though you say its on purpose. Silence can be very intimidating too as other interviews have shown.
0 likesHow many times do you think this detective says āokay?ā
0 likesThey really tucked this man in and gave him milk and cookies before he cried like a big baby.
3 likesI'm insanely frustrated that he never broke except to throw his own pity party
0 likesThis guy loves Cherās āIf I Could Turn Back Timeā š
3 likesSorry can't help lol even though it's just heartbreaking š
0 likesJust had to say the line .
I KNOW YOU'RE UPSET YOU HAVEN'T EATEN YOUR DOUNUT!!!!!
This cop is Fabulous.
His boss need to let him know!!!!!
I mean, yes, dude murdered a literal child, thatās atrocious, but not bringing that food was a cold move šš
0 likesWait.. so they CAN get parole in 25 years? WTF.
2 likesLife in prison without the possibility of parole .... for 25 years. Do people only live until their late 50's in Canada?
0 likesIt's funny to me that all of your videos about perpetrators named Michael survived the purge.
3 likesThe restraint of these officers...
1 likeHoly Christ , This Detective can Talk ..
0 likesDam, that ending.. roasted
2 likesI hope someone in prison serves him up a big slice of karma
1 likeHopefully the boys in prison will take good care of him.
1 likeThis shit is Bonkers man!! Why are ppl doing these things to ppl like wtf man!!! How do we stop all these sick ppl before they are doing these things.
2 likesIt's just so nice to hear DS Smyth's voice.
0 likesI,m pretty sure he got his ass whooped in jail and then prison .
2 likes3 years!? Bloody hell that took ages
0 likesReminds me of the moors murderers , the woman in that couple ( myra hindley) was instrumental in gaining the victims trust.
0 likesthe biggest mistake they made was to leave him the blanket, that way he wont feel that protected
0 likesHow come they have the possibility of parole
1 likeOut of all JSC videos this one was the hardest to watch
1 likeI thought the police sketch of the woman was horribly inaccurate until I saw the actual woman lol š
0 likesThe "I met the guy who met Paul Bernardo" technique.
0 likesCan we petition the Canadian government to legalize torture for this guy?
0 likesI could never be an investigator... I'm sure I'd throw the coffee at that monsters face.
0 likesThe detective seems like hes non stop talking and the perpetrator has his head down about to go to sleep.
0 likesThe interrogator the type of dude to tell you your own origin story
0 likesDid anyone else stop hearing the detective and just hear "OKAY????"
0 likesI couldn't do it. I couldn't sit in that room and talk to him. I would lose whats left of my mind
1 likeI really hope the investigator is only saying that it dont bother him for the sake of the inttergation. If not then he is lost...
0 likes14:47 by not being truthful, all you have left is your credibility š¤Øš§š¤
0 likesHe should of rocked back & forth in that chair for 90 solid seconds without talking. He would of broke!
0 likesGang members'll get his ass in prison don't y'all worry one bit š¤£
2 likeshim: r-ped and murdered a child
0 likesalso him: "but I'm innocent"
the things I do to him will make the set from Saw looks like Peewee's Playhouse by comparison
Is this the detective that interrogated that freak "call me Russ"?
0 likestake a shot everytime the investigator says 'okay'
0 likes25 years!! Iād request he be released the next day with his details out online and the exact time he walks out the jail!! Iād serve time for this stain
2 likesāYou havenāt touched your (done-ut)ā šthat sent me I like his subtle accent
1 like57 minutes of hearing the detective speak... he never gave a minute to the other guy. Blah blah blah.
0 likesMike couldāve played a killer in a movie with that voice. Shame he went another way
0 likesFast forward the speaking parts and leave the silence in. Makes sense š
0 likes25 minutes in and even I am getting tired of his "rambling"
1 likeWould love to see these o.p.p guys vs Steven mcdaniels
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the ultimate showdown. plus the polygraph lady from the Watts case.
0 likesShe wondered away from the school? Isnāt the school responsible
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She was taken on a lie to go see a puppy by his girlfriend
1 likeHopefully more videos donāt disappear.
1 likeDoes this not have part 2?
0 likesHis condescending never ending talking would make me so angry and not want to talk at all
1 likeItās pissing me off how Michael wonāt talk
1 likeNot enough time for the crime
1 likeWhy are shoulder pads in suits even a thing?
1 like"you haven't touched your donut...." Goddamn
0 likesThis cop would also make a great salesman š
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Maybe an Asmr
0 likesThatās the last can he gets to crack open while a free man.
0 likesI swear to god if I accidentally click this video one more time thinking itās something new ima lose my shit
0 likesblanket, tea, doughnut - I understand the approach, but I do not want to see him comforted
0 likesThat little girl didn't have any comfort in her final moments. :'
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Was this guy an addict? He looks like he's in heroin withdrawal. Not that it changes anything, I'm just curious.
0 likes23:15 "Pas de Gnoll" certes, mais pour en draw il faudrait en avoir dans le deck :D
0 likesWhere did you go JCS? it's been a year of no videos š¢
0 likesWhy did this girl help him abduct this child? What did she think was going to happen?
0 likesI haven't stared at a mans bald spot for so long before in my life
0 likesfor 25 years tho so a chance of parole after stfu judicial system SOOOOOO FUCKED UP
0 likesHa! He filibustered that dudes brain!
0 likesCanadian are crazy. So glad I live in the USA!
2 likesI would not want to play that behavioral science person in poker. Very glad it was him that was interrogating.... That sick P3do needs put behind bars or put down...
0 likesThat's why pencils have erasers because we all make mistakes it's that simple he says, it's a little more serious than that diarrhea mouth.
0 likes26:00 lol most Canadian intorgation ever
0 likesWhat a monster
1 like26:03 "you haven't touched your doughnut..."
1 likeNarration is spot on. These videos are well done, nothing worse than a narrator pausing the video every 5 seconds to talk š Narrator jumps in at just the right times, with relevant points for the audience. Very well done.
290 likes"We're done"
2054 likes"Is that what you said to her before killing her"?
F'cking ouch what a zinger.
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Damn even I felt that
27 likesExcept, he didn't kill her. That woman did. The zingers are good, but joke's on him, I guess.
4 likesBrax1982 what you mean? You telling me he is innocent?
19 likes"ZIING"
1 like-Zingbot
ā@Brax1982 As the title suggests, Jim is showcasing Micheal Rafferty exclusively. So naturally he gets more screen time than his accomplice. You're right in that Micheal wasn't the one who swung, but understand that part of an interrogator's job is to get people talking. That comment was meant to sting, whether in its accuracy or inaccuracy. His role in the murder wasn't known at the time until he was questioned as harshly as he was.
33 likes@Yar Nunya ok mr eco friendly shooting them Is funner ok.
6 likesYou know he was a big man when he was viciously attacking a 8 year old baby girl! Now he wants to be an 8 year old girl!! This is a sick world š filled with š· people š
3 likesKMFDM57 So fucking sick. It just turns my stomach to know that she willingly dragged a child to torture and death. Throw the key away! Lock them up forever!
1 likeBrax1982 i thought he killed her because she held the trash bag open so he could put clothes and the hammer he used?
0 likes@Wandamian Crucifixplate st this point he'd accused. We don't execute the accused anymore thank god
0 likesZinger indeed
0 likes"This isn't a parking ticket." understatement of the century right there.
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Seriously lol
3 likestechnically right
0 likesWell he's not wrong
2 likesI read this comment as he said it lol
0 likesOr "thats why pencils have rubber, we all make mistakes"
1 likemega noob I was the literally white guy blinking meme when he said that
1 like@Ruin your childhood haha
0 likesOrigins of "you're not that guy"
0 likesāget rid of your f***ing security blanket and be a manā -bad cop
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They just need one cop with split personality. He can randomly switch from good to bad cop. Mid sentence preferably
83 likes@sam right lmfao I heard this in that typical northern Florida, Florida Man voice lol.
10 likes@sam right amen !!!
2 likes37:02
8 likesDetective Sargent Smyth is a legend.šš„°
6 likes@John V hahaha Badcop from Lego movieššš
4 likes@Thaddeus Cosse lol
1 like@Abelis šŗš¦ Indeed he is!
1 likeGotta love good cop bad cop what a classic
1 like@sam right i love you
1 like@John V lmao yeah
0 likesItās hilarious because he actually has a blanket on him
1 likeI've finally seen good cop bad cop at last. Now it's all coming together
1 like@John V Sorta like the way Walter White switched mid sentence when he said "tread lightly".
1 like@John V like the cop in the lego movie??
1 likeyour channel is amazing!!! I'm so glad I found you!!
0 likes*Looks longingly at my blankieā¦š„ŗ
0 likes"-a guy who when he abducts an 8-year-old girl, he's so turned on by it, that before he kills her he has to have sex with her. So if u ask me why I'm sitting in this room? I'm sitting in this room for tory." I got so moved by his words, an absolute gentlemen who deserves so much praise for his work.
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That whole ending may as well been a movie
6 likes100% Hats off to him.
0 likestherefore people who you are or have psychopaths traits rather become cop,manager,doctor,lawyer then serial killer
0 likesOh your biggest fear is LOSING YOUR LIFE? I wonder what that little girlās biggest fear was in her final moments.
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Don't imagine it, no one deserves to die like that except for the killer
23 likes@ęå·ćć«ćŖ Hoshikawa Hikari even people in terrorist groups?
3 likes@Ace Gaming that has to do nothing with the video
54 likesShe mustāve been in so much pain and wanted her mommy:( it makes me wanna cry just thinking about this
12 likesJust makes my damn blood boil. I have a 9 year old daughter and hearing what these F***ing animals did to that sweet girl... Oof. It's enough to land me right there in jail too. All because she was being a good daughter and wanted to see a puppy! I hate that I have to teach my daughter about crap like this but I need her to be prepared. Awful world we live in sometimes.
4 likes@Josh Mattingly haha sometimes hahs this is everday life in your neighborhood in da hood in the city you better tell your daughter now before shes sixteen hoin the streets
0 likes@Ace Gaming houyo777
0 likes@S0urc3C0de to be honest no living thing deserves this. but the reality of it is death row is gonna be alot worse to handle. your gonna have a week or so of knowing your gonna die to electricution or hanging, both timely deaths that take quiet the moment to feel through. your existence fades away before death, you dont matter anymore. thats it. nobody cares. the worst part about it is knowing you came here with purpose and the species your in simply works like all creatures, your out the gene pool.. and your existance is forgotten. thats the son of somebody, hes only 28, hes a son of a father and mother who realizes that this man ruined lives, then continued to destroy there familyy name.. hes gone and that means his family name is gone..his family will be forgotten.. nothing to pass down. only lord himself can make punishment worse
0 likes@Catarina Esteves I hope he suffers 100x more than that poor innocent girl
0 likesThe AUDACITY of this creep to try and imply that Tori's parents were the ones who murdered her when he knows EXACTLY what happened to that little girl is utterly despicable. He makes my blood boil.
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Thank you too, for giving this Psychopath exactly what he wants: a reaction
0 likesHe was trying to play his hand off the fact that the media and public largely suspected the parents, especially her mother, in the weeks after her disappearance and before they caught these sickos.
0 likes@ lildcgang if you actually think a psychopath is looking for a ā reaction ā of disgust or anger at his perverted cowardice, from a stranger on YT you are COMPLETELY Ignorant about the nature of psychopathy! and what they are ā looking for ā...
9 likesItās such a relief Iām not the only one binge watching all of these.
514 likesI canāt get enough
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This is my last one and i feel sad knowing I won't be able to binge another.
18 likesLiterally canāt stop
2 likes@KD Carter Same :/ Iāll tell you if I find any other channels similar.
4 likes@Olivia Valley yes pls I need more Lmaooo
1 like@Olivia Valley PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE š
0 likesSAMEEE
0 likesYeah Iāve watched them all now. Iām sad.
0 likesOut of all the true crime stories Iāve heard, interrogations Iāve watched, this detective is hands down the most impressive and articulate. No one holds a candle to his level headed professionalism.
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Or roight
2 likesan "oscar pistorious" style performance
0 likesIf he was innocent he would have been fucking furious in that interrogation room screaming and yelling at wtf was going on. Silence really spoke more than he ever could.
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That's why the other guy said that Silence really helps him.
24 likesThat is both true and not true. While yes, when you're innocent it pisses you off to be accused and you're expected to react to allegations with force, force met with force, at the same time being silent is also very good as well as it gives less to work with. A good detective knows to take a centimetre and turn it into miles on miles. So it really would be a balancing act
22 likesLike that guy in other video when he actually didn't do the crime, he was mad in that room.
4 likes@Phony 15 Good observation!
0 likesAlso right right right. Omg that the worst word to hear over & over
0 likes...unless you're Jeff.
0 likes@Jake T D JCS made a video on it and sometimes innocent people act that way. Look at guilty until innocent
1 likeMan you can tell this guy is loving every moment of talking his ear off as he sips his coffee effortlessly talking you can tell heās a pro
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1 likeWish I had those skills. Id enjoy it
5 likesJust Me INTP Same but i think as a woman we kind of already have these skills š
3 likes@Eden S loool yes hahaha
0 likesThis interrogator might be the best I've seen yet. He's got all of the skills down, he doesn't let him deny it for even a half of a second before he says "you can try to cement yourself into that position" lol. I'm just sad that I'm out of videos to watch already. This channel is great, and yes the narrations help a lot in understanding these tactics and the strategies behind them.
158 likesInteresting how when the interrogator stops pretending, Rafferty also stops pretending. He stops crying and sniveling, his body language changes and he just sits there.
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Yeah good point, on the other hand, it's been almost 4 hours for both of them
10 likesGetting life is mot enough for children killers.
0 likesLmfao shaking my head when the guy goes āthatās why pencils have erasersā talking about child murder. To say that without cracking is professionalism.
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canadism*
12 likes@pimpslap13 what
3 likes@zuckle canadism
8 likesLaughed myself silly after Mike said "yeah, I need something to eat". Then the narrator said in reality no food will be coming.
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Same š. Absolutely brilliant.
1 likeHe won`t be making too many friends in prison.
0 likesI want a whole episode on just this detectiveās interrogations, because he is definitely one of the best interrogators of all time. Truly an Oscar-winning performance.
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Best? It didn't work
10 likesInterrogation? He didn't even let the guy talk. If he wanted to confess he wouldn't even be able to.
9 likesHe was all right. If you want to see the Goat of interrogators watch detective sergeant Jim Smyth breaking Colonel Russel Williams down. It's a brilliant show from the second they sit and talk.
7 likesThe guy is teaching other interrogators how to interrogate, he's a legend in the field and worked on huge cases such as this, Williams and I think he also worked on Paul Bernardo. Give it a try
@Ark Design yeah facts that russell williams interview is legendary, i think ive watched it through like 7-8 timesššeach time i spot something new that is so impressive that jim does that looks like second nature but takes so much experience
4 likes@Brett Nickel do u have a link ?
0 likesI'm just putting a comment here so i get notified if someone put a link
0 likesyou mean Jim Smith? I don't think he was the one that conducted the interview (I think he only appeared a little bit)
0 likes@Do Not Ban Me Please The guy was clearly being unresponsive and keeping to himself. How can you blame it on the interrogator for not letting him speakā¦ Did you even watch the video before you call other people dumb?
0 likes@Do Not Ban Me Please did you watch the video, the guy literally addressed why he speaks so fast and does not allow him to speak. Also, parts of this interrogation were cut. Maybe because he was questioned and was unresponsive therefore not important for a short documentary? The interrogator even stated he was not answering questions. Heās been in crime for 40 years, he knows what heās doing.
0 likes25:07 interrogator asks, unresponsive, then the interrogator keeps pressing. Just an example
Jalyn interview is basically this lol
0 likesI just can't wrap my head around this kind of thing. If I just let my mind wander into the details of that murder, killing an 8 year old with a hammer, I just feel sick and start getting angry and I just have to stop thinking about it. I honestly don't know how the detectives are able to do it.
105 likesEvery time I watch one of these JCS videos I am absolutely blown away by the skills of the detectives. You've got to have some sort of natural talent to do what they do, I think. It's part psychologist, part actor, part manipulator. I imagine it's similar to the skillset a really good psychic would have. They can read people really well and adjust the conversation accordingly in order to get them to a particular conclusion. I did read a few of those John Douglas books when I was a teenager so I had some understanding of what their job was, but just seeing it on video is something else.
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i know man, its sick...disturbing.
2 likesAnd dudes such a coward, weakling...makes you wish you could get your hands on him.
6 likesA friend of mine is a forensic photographer and scientist for a Police force here n Britain, they investigate and photograph crime scenes, they also do ārape kitsā, they have to encourage rape victims to provide DNA samples or they take swabs of intimate parts of their bodies in order to get the necessary evidence to convict these scumbags. I often question her dedication and cast iron fortitude, I donāt know how she can be up close and personal with this level of scumbag!
4 likesYou essentially have to just numb yourself to what happened. I imagine that over the years, it gets easier to numb yourself to the depravity of people.
0 likesEBTwitts Itās difficult to explain, we have to be able to compartmentalize. Victims need to be approached in a calm and reassuring matter, they need to feel safe, especially if youāre going to ask them to recount an assault, or in my case, provide medical care which includes me touching them. If theyāre being approached by someone whoās emotional or angry, it could be triggering for them and make them shut down. With criminals, you canāt show them emotion because for them, it implies weakness and they will try to exploit and manipulate that. Iāve had to pretend to be caring and reassuring to many criminals, because it makes put down their guard, but secretly I was fantasizing about stabbing them with a scalpel. After, dealing with criminals or victims, we take a small break to gather ourselves, and continued doing our jobs. It doesnāt get any easier with time, so we learn to cope and find healthy outlets, but sadly, we all eventually end up with some form of ptsd.
2 likesGavin Johnson Please, take good care of her. ā¤ļø
0 likesJust be glad it bothers you so much. That's good.it means you could never do such a horrible thing. Nobody is perfect but I'm grateful for people like you that know when to say oh hell no. Feck that.
2 likesSelf control is #1... has to be.
1 likeThe average person would beat the living hell out of this monster.
I am amazed each time how detectives talk to criminals and maintain such composure.
Wondering the same myself.
0 likes@living in a desert Agreed.
0 likes125 pounds was a...generous description
0 likesIdk how the officer can sit so close to him and just not smack the shit out of him.
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well some people are made for the job and some are not thats sadly why police violence is such a problem.
99 likesa family member should get a 1 minute round in the ring with him at least.
70 likesBecause as soon as he touches the suspect, that can jeopardize the entire investigation. Try being called the cop that let a child killer go free.
37 likes@Tretch Unfortunately, that is something that has happened to Jim Smyth before
1 likeYouāre sick yourself, man. Dāyou know that?
0 likes@tom frankfooter with a mace
1 likeThe last detective slapped the shit out of him verbally...and it was beautiful.
5 likesprofessionalism, class, composure, something most normal peons don't have. besides, why bother smacking someone you KNOW is going to get it good in prison hm?
9 likesright & asking him if he wants food? naw. starve
4 likesIt's simple. Smacking the shit out of him does nothing. Making him confess through mentally bombarding and controlling him by being smart and manipulative lets him get what he deserves :)
8 likes@Lorella de Pisis how would you NOT want to punch a guy who raped and killed your childā¦.? wtf is wrong w you dude
1 like@Astro mental anguish is the strongest pain :D
1 likeIt just really reminds me I could not do this job Iād be throwing BLOWS for people fuckin w kids
2 likes@deadlynn big same š esp because i've been through csa,,, that shit hits too close to home a thousand times over lolol
2 likes@i thought u were american it sure is. nice kanna pfp btw :)
0 likesHe has to act with empathy and da.n that must be hard
1 likeYeah very intelligent move. Every lawyer would have a field day with that. If a cop would do that during interrogation the suspect would walk free the same day and that is why we don't do that.
0 likesSame goes for all those child predator vigilante groups. Stop doing that. Nothing they do can be used in court and the predator can even sue you and is most likely to win the case.
@Lorella de Pisis No, he's not. In a primal sense, if someone harms someone else for no conceivable reason, then you have to assume they could be dangerous to you. It's a reasonable instinct to hate murderers and especially child murderers.
0 likesI'd do it if it meant he got put away for good.
1 likeIt would be a challenging job, though.
That is why I could never do their job
1 like@Lorella de Pisismfer you speaking french?
0 likesI think he knows damn well monsters like this donāt fair too well in prison.
1 likeThe delayed gratification of putting him away forever is probably much more satisfying. If he wanted to smack people he'd be a street cop.
0 likesitās in his ā job description ā not to ā¦.. but Iām sure in his mindset heād love to!
1 liketotally agreed. That officer got some serious patience, guess that's why he's in that specific unit :)
1 likeThats why you won't get the job done lol
1 likeHe deals with people like this every day it's in his job description he deals with the real fucked up cases, he's a specialist he's heard and seen it all more times than he can count. In all honesty my guy is probably completely numb to all of it and incredibly bored with life
0 likes@Skapelboi To stare evil in the eye and not let it shake you...
1 likeIt's called being emotionally mature. Which is why he's qualified to do what he does.
0 likesHe wonāt live in prison
1 like"Jeepers eh'? You didn't even touch yer doo-nut there Mikey"
0 likesOn the topic of child molestation, always listen to a child who tells you that someone such as a family member or friend has touched them inappropriately. Children do not lie about this and you should be thankful they even told you to begin with because they may not understand it is wrong. Which brings up the fact that every parent needs to tell their children what right and wrong touching is. A lot of trauma could be prevented this way.
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Children can easily be manipulated into lying about another family member. Mother hates the father? Tell the daughter he raped her.
31 likes@cool dud but I rather believe a million lying children and make sure everything is safe then fail 1 truthful child
40 likes@cool dud children arenāt great liars. If theyāre lying, youāll probably find out pretty quick.
53 likes@cool dud I think it's more disgusting how when something isnt going your way, you think it's wrong. The reality is that in these types of cases, it is guilty until proven innocent, and this is in the best interest of the victims. Also women and nonbinary people can be abusers too, it's not just men. I have nothing against anyone, but I still stand by the law that protects the children. Courts are initiating processes that pinpoint if coaching from a parent happened.
31 likes@astrwolf Exactly! Also many methods have been surfacing that help provide the truth. I.e. polygraphs, coaching, psychological tactics, etc. They're not sending people to jail without any evidence or just the testimony of a child. It is still investigated upon. It's silly to think otherwise.
15 likesA kid can be manipulated very easily into telling the same story over and over again until they think it actually happened
12 likes@astrwolf If the child believes what he/she is doing is innocent or not a lie, you will not find the tells that you would from someone who knows he/she is lying. This is not a difficult thing to accomplish. Children are extremely malleable, which is why parents are held mostly accountable for their development.
9 likes@s you clearly live in an alternate universe or are ignorant if you think ppl donāt go to jail without evidence. You also only have one level on understanding a childās mind and that is that they always tell the truth and are right.
13 likes@samra I know people go without evidence. I am stating how the system works for this type of work. I feel disgusted that you guys wouldnt believe a child. Believing a child isn't saying that the person they accused is a rapist or predator, but rather opens the possibility that they are in danger. If it was your child, would you like it if someone said "Oh it's a child let's not believe them?" Its not that hard to critically think why our legal system works like that. Also your insults dont make your point any better, substantial points and evidence do.
14 likes@cool dud being on the other end of this (not rape though) I can agree. My toxic ex manipulated my children to say I beat them. It was found out to be false, but it enforces the fact that children can be easily manipulated.
6 likesask all the "witches" in Salem how that went...
5 likes@s I personally wouldn't believe or disbelieve the child just on the basis of the accusation, that's stupid. You need to know more, what caused this? Is this a lie? If so, for what purpose? Who did this and do they have anything hinting to them doing this act? You can't trust anyone's word on face value, not even a child's. It's another piece of evidence, another piece of the puzzle. A jigsaw puzzle can't be completed with 1 blank piece.
7 likes@s dont breed
1 like@a Just because you said that, I will get married and have a big happy family
4 likesSome kids DO lie about it. My older sister lied about it when my parents got divorced. She caused years of heart ache and BS for everyone in my family because she wanted attention. I know she lied about it, because it didn't add up AND she admitted as much about 10 years ago, when we were all adults. She admitted she lied about it and why she did, and apologized to my dad for it. Even though her BS cost him a relationship with his kids for 7 years that he missed out on, she's back to being his favorite. She always was. But yeah, kids DO lie about it. Usually not, though. I will always listen to my kids if something weird was going on. Hell, if my kids told me they saw a monster outside, I would believe that they saw SOMETHING scary, and check on it. I would never dismiss anything that scared, hurt, or upset any of my kids.
1 like@samra exactly! If people were to believe a million lying kids to save 1 kid, how many other kids are going to go without a parent, because they got locked up or labeled as a sex offender. Just because some kid got bored and made up a story, or someone brainwashed the kid to believe and say certain things. Saving 1 kid that way, would very likely end up hurting way more, in the long run.
2 likes@cool dud Good! I hope you do! Sounds like you would be a great dad. I mean, you obviously know the value of logic and know the world isn't as easy as just black and white. I imagine if you had any kids, they would be a great contribution to society!
0 likesNote: I'm being sincere. Sorry if it came across as a bit sarcastic. I didn't mean to. I just wanted to make a point, in that I agree with you and support your view on it.
"Believe all children" carries the same tone as "believe all women." How about "believe people based on their own personal history of their credibility, not their age or their gender."
3 likes@Skirdus So you're putting the same motives as abusive women onto young, naive children. Also for the record I did not say to always believe them, I said always listen to them. Do not shut them down. I understand children might lie for attention, but they don't have the same motives as adult women who probably got with the man for their money or something like that. Children are therefore more trustworthy. Btw you don't have to carry that attitude, it's like you're already prepared for a fight instead of a debate. But you misread my comment and replied unnecessarily with your narrative. Listen and discern for yourself if they are manipulating or genuinely traumatized.
2 likesbelieving the child until the threat is assessed and eliminated (if theyve been coached to lie, you WILL find out. coaching is also abuse that NEEDS to be addressed.) is the best way. The wellbeing of the accused isnt the priority over the child's safety. period. many children become retraumatized when their parents dont want to accept what happened to them, or even continue giving the abuser access to the child. in cases involving children these accusations hold much more weight and cant be compared to the actions of women who falsely accuse. children dont have the understanding to maliciously accuse someone unless theres some form of psychological abuse (being coached, being exposed to sexual content, being manipulated or coerced in other ways)
0 likes@s all 3 of those things are inadmissible as evidence in a court of law
0 likesever seen the crucible?
0 likes@Aemiom No why?
0 likes@Calamity Chaela its a play based on the salem witch trials. some kids lie about stuff and get 25 people sentenced to death. i was just responding to the guy who said "kids never lie"
0 likesThe old Canadian strategy of āGood Cop, Not-as-Good Copā
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Lol
3 likespoutine cop, poutine-no-gravy cop eh.
43 likesDon't forget the Timmy's and old fashioned plain donut
11 likesHaha great comment
1 like@Jan Stander I love this so much
2 likesOh, come on. Do you honestly think if the cop had come into the room all guns blazing he'd have got any info? No way. They use psychological tools to get what they want from the suspect. The cop is fully aware that he is sat in front of the lowest form of human life. But he can't let the suspect know what he actually thinks and feels. The inmates will give the suspect exactly what he deserves.
0 likes@Jack Tiernan bro it is a joke
4 likes@ArtisticHickory
4 likesyeah ok. my bad.
I mean with a true bad cop the defense could claim a faulty interrogation
0 likesWe call it polite cop American cop.
0 likesThat's as canadian as it gets.
0 likesš bruh
0 likesdoes the cop ever stop talking bc im about to skip this video 13 mins in and its all cop talking to the guy with no response from the criminal is literally the cop talking nonstop... ohhhh go to 25mins in if you want to hear another voice
0 likes...ahhhh i cant listen to just this 1 guys voice anymore.
finding a new video.....now
If this interrogator ever gets tired of his job, he has a bright future in becoming an auctioneer.
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17 likesAmbivalent so do you
3 likes@Angel Chege no u
0 likesHis pathetic and cowardly act doesnāt do what he wants it to. It doesnāt gain sympathy and they know for a fact that heās done it so it just comes off as annoying and disgusting. Hope he got the same treatment he gave Tori in prison.
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Exactly š
3 likesOh he will. Child rapists have no sympathy especially in prison.
1 likeAlways ask for a coke, Butterfinger, and a lawyer, and never tell them your Dad has a Mercedes, and he loves that baby.
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Also look at them while they're talking to you with the most dead face like McDaniel and make them uncomfortable instead
4290 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£. Jennifer talking about the Mercedes was cringe as hell
3729 likesOr say geez, golly, gosh every 5 seconds...
3428 likes@GreenWeenie goshhhh...THAT WAS AAAAGES AGO!!
2257 likesI see a binge watcher, I upvote
3076 likesThis comment is gold š
617 likesI see you have also watched all of his videos!
676 likes@vexxy ššš¼š no. yes. i donāt know
465 likes@GreenWeenie ...while trying to impersonate Jim Carrey
283 likes@Dhrogon Torres "million"years ago š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
271 likeslol
18 likeslmfaooooooo yoooo im crying lmfao
62 likesšššš
17 likesGlad im not the only one binge watching these vids š
320 likesGeeze, gosh, IDK...I mean, whatās this all about?
403 likesTalk about how much you loved those girls
306 likes@Servantofobedience šššš
12 likesOn my second round through all of these videos. My favorite criminal psychology channel hands down
143 likesBest comment
27 likesI literally went out for a Coke and Butterfinger yesterday after watching that again lol
102 likeslmaooo!
9 likesšššššš
9 likes@Gabrielle š I thought I was going crazy seating here watching these videos
38 likesOh thank god Iām not alone haha
66 likesWait until you get to the online deep digging for the entirety of the court proceedings
That comment still makes me cringe and I heard it two weeks ago š¤¦š»āāļø
23 likesLMAOOOOOOOOO RHAHDG THE MERCEDES
21 likesI mean...what's... what's this all about???
88 likesYou're 5,000% correct
83 likesAnd don't forget to not mention that you WANT A FUCKING SLURPEE!! RAAAGGH
130 likesššš
5 likesyou forgot to say you need to be angry and disgusted when they ask you The Question...
23 likesMake sure you are wearing a VERY tight police uniform and what not. Who knows, you might get 437 years in prison. Regardless, the detective will most likely talk about her unkempt lady parts.
26 likesYou just combined, the last 3 days of my YouTubing in one sentence.
87 likesI absolutely love the comments here š
19 likes@T_Fitz yeah me too. Criminal psychology on the people who do horrible and terrible things? Polite comments and positive energy. Light-hearted shows or anyone expressing an opinions? Slurs, threats, and cancer. This and Last Podcast on the Left have some of the nicest communities :)
22 likesHe actually only has an appetite for food from a fairly expensive bed and breakfast.
36 likesAlso apparently don't be called Micheal. For a channel with a handful of videos, 3 of them are Michael's
47 likesLOL I KNOW THAT
2 likesTrue fan love that
4 likesš¤£š¤£
1 likeTell them about how you smoke 3 packs a day
4 likesdont forget to say sir yes sir and no sir every single time
34 likesJeff and Jennifer
3 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesi lvoe you mate
1 likeš š¤£ššš
0 likesI wish I could like that more than once
4 likesMy fellow addicts are all here
22 likesššš
0 likesThis whole thread is absolute gold šššššš
13 likesHOW CAN ANYONE LISTEN TO THAT COP ..BIGHEADED ONLY TALKS ABOUT HIMSELF ..GO TO THE START LISTEN HOW MANY TIMES HE SAYS I I I MINE .I HAVE BEEN ...TORTURE listening to that cop
5 likesIM DEAD LMAOO
2 likesSpokenime a true JCS š...courtesy of Jenn
2 likeswise sir, you have gained great wisdom from this channel š
4 likes@Laganas2008 you need to watch all the videos on this channel to get all these private jokes š
9 likes@Ira M I did, hence why I was making a reference to Stephanie Lazarus.
11 likesAnd don't forget to mention your trip where you went scuba diving for 40 mins!
21 likesWambrook bang get me back into my cell šš
4 likes@GreenWeenie which one was this??? I missed one apparently š©š©
0 likeswell we stuck with this channel
3 likesYes sir.
1 likeAlso don't mention an... expensive bed and breakfast
17 likesOr keep making weird faces and keep saying oh gosh gawwddd thatvwas ages ago I canāt even remember.
28 likesIs that a reference to Jeff?
4 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
1 like@sonja it is 11 PM and i've been here from 12 AM..........when this video will be done my eyes will start bleeding
3 likes@Cody Schwabe I think she said that because her dad valued his possessions more than his daughter but sure let's go make fun of someone. He loved the Mercedes more than her and that's fucking sad.
6 likes@Juan Antonio Marquez Lara wham bam thanks for the coke take me back to my cell
28 likes@Lee The Flea you totally right there. Legend ššš
1 likealso say that it mustve been a million years ago geez idk!!
7 likesCongratulations. The best comment on a JCS video I've seen so far.
4 likes@Laganas2008 I knew EXACTLY who you were referencing. I could hear her voice.....lol. š¤£
4 likesYou're fine as long as the hay-ur wasn't they-ur, Stayvin.
11 likes@vexxy š
1 likeOmg hahahahaha
1 likeJust know the cops might take that Coke can for your DNA.
11 likesššš
1 likeBut my dads Mercedes and his feelings toward it are vital to the investigation! :u
4 likesšš I bet youāre done watching all these videos affirmativeš„øš¤£
0 likesMamenber
4 likesšš Not Jim Carey (Stephanie Lazarus)
Don't think I've seen the butterfinger one yet !
4 likesmy play would try to get all the food in the place and then lawyer up
1 likeWhich one is the butterfinger? Anyone know??
2 likesOh my godššš
0 likes@Sunflower the legend of Jeff
7 likesYou generally can't get Butterfingers in Canada.
1 like@Sunflower jeff...watched it last night
2 likesššš
1 like@Cody Schwabewhoās Jennifer?
0 likesThis is factual
1 likeThis is very YMH esque
1 like@vexxy damn that dude was so creepy!!
1 like@Dune correction: you want to be able to get a slurpee and keep your hoodie up! šš
6 likesTHIS COMMENT, he loves that baby
3 likesLOL the investigator's reaction to that comment from Jennifer Pan is hilarious "Oh, IS THAT RIGHT?"
5 likes@Jazmin JoyceI'm going to fall you Mike
0 likesHAHAHAHHAHAHA OMG JENNIFER
4 likesAlso donāt do handstands
11 likesAnd don't say you miss those nuggets being thrown at you by whoever is dead.
5 likesNot gonna lie, that was one of the best short comments ever and provided concise humor/ true crime history.
0 likesnice name brudda
1 likeš love it
0 likesI kicked a dog once ;(
7 likesI spilled a Coke once. It's name was Drinky Boy.
13 likesAnd make jim carrey faces the entire interrogation
5 likesI love how this channel's comment section understands all these phrases.
2 likesLol I just watched that case before this lmao
0 likesLMAOOOOOOOO
1 like@Berk GƶnenƧ I see a fellow redditor, I upvote
0 likesI understood both these references
0 likesThis comment section is amazing
3 likestalking to me?
0 likesAlso donāt bring up anything about fluid motion.
6 likesLOL
0 likesOh gosh, gee. I don't think so! It was so long ago! :P
2 likes@Jetty Bean He is not making light of the situation , rather he is simply making fun of these morons who commit horrible acts then act even more stupid during the interrogation.
5 likes@GreenWeenie ššš I can't believe that lady was a cop for 25 years. What a nut job lol
4 likestop comment god ššš
2 likesLMAO
1 likeAnthony Quispe Iāll take Creepy McStareson for $500..... Stephen McDaniel
8 likesBest comment in hereš¤£
2 likesHAHAHAHAHAHHA
1 like@Anthony Q is it that McDaniel freak?!
4 likesAshD P yes! Lol
1 like@James Darmor lol, I saw that video!
0 likesI love how everybody understands the references š
6 likesTRUUUU
1 likeLMFAO STOP I JUS FINISHED HER STORY
2 likesThis is brilliant šššš
2 likesLmfao
1 likeAnd tell em you've watched all JCS videos so you know what's what.
1 likeJcs
1 likeLol. I see you have watched several of Jimās videos!!! Love it!
0 likesAll these episode being remembered and nobodys talking about war machine kopenhaver
3 likesHe will be most upset
HAHA
1 likeAHAHA
1 likešš and sing whilst left alone, do a headstand
3 likesEat the donut immediatly.
0 likesšš½šš½šš½šš½šš½šš½ šššššš
1 likethis thread shows that iām not the only nine watcher
1 likeFACTS except imma need a dr pepper and a twix
0 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesSomehow I knew which person your talking about. Watched her this morning š
1 likeDeadš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
1 likeI LOVE this comment
1 like@Aisha Palmer š
1 like@vexxy "Why are you answering questions like a magic 8 ball?"
4 likesš³yesš³
He never got his butttttterfingerrr
4 likesThe man. The myth. The legend. Jeff.
2 likesi love how we all understand where this comes from
3 likesWhaah, Steven? Whaah?
1 likeK
0 likes@Anthony Q dead eyed Daniels. "Look at me!"
3 likesI love you
0 likesSeen that video too lol
0 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesOnly binge watchers can relate š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
2 likesJEFF!!!
0 likesLol I was watching that video just yesterday haha š
0 likesLove how everyone know the reference because everyone binge watched the vids haha :'D
0 likesBad Santa?
1 likeš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesJeff is a legend
5 likesLmao
0 likesThanks Jeff!
0 likes@Daimonik Which one is that?
0 likesPro tip: earwax makes for a light snack on all those pesky breaks
0 likesSTEEVEN THATS HORRIBLE
3 likes@Amanda Joy Any recommendations as in other channels up to par?! Please do share š¬
0 likes@Collin D nailed it ! š
1 like@_KraftS I. Wish.
2 likesLol we don't have butter fingers in NZ but Jeff makes me want them lol
0 likesgetting arrested just so you can give your testimony in interrogation completely comprised of memes
1 likeI feel so special that I understand these references
1 likeand say you were 5 thousand percent sure that you had nothing to do with it, and that oh gee oh golly oh gosh it was so long ago I couldn't even remember
4 likesOh gosh that girl was crazy
0 likesnever do laundry more than once every few weeks and wear underwear more than once
2 likesWhats the reference to the mercedes from? which video?
0 likes@Brian Mcelligott "Jennifer's Solution" is the title of the video, about the girl who set up her parents' murder and then tried to lie about it as the sole witness lol. if you go to JCS's video page, its the third one down from 7 months ago.
2 likes@Brian Mcelligott, Jennifer's solution.
1 likeI think it is the 6th Video since yesterday. I can't stop watching.
1 likeNice callback..
0 likesHahahaha I see what you did there! that was TOP notch pun!
0 likesAnd also be 5000% sure
1 likeLmaooo
0 likesAnd don't call murderer "that gentleman"
2 likes@Berk GƶnenƧ Iām new to this channel, I just wasted an entire afternoon lol
1 likeTotally agree, upvoted this comment
@vexxy that was insane! He looked like the little creepy doll from the movie SAW.
1 likeaaaaaah the reference!!!
0 likesWait, hold on, lemme just š¤ø in the room while my food is coming
4 likestoo much man. but perfect
0 likesAlso make sure to refer to the supposed murderers as gentlemen.
1 likeLMFAO PLEASE
0 likesComment of the year award! šÆ
0 likesDont ask for a lawyer, ask for Jeff.
1 likeAchievement unlocked: The Inside Joke
1 likeI hope I never have to use this line, but if I ever have to, I've going to.
0 likes@GreenWeenie oh man. oh god. Oh man. Oh god.
0 likesAlso remember to blame it on the demons
0 likesššššššš
0 likes@Juan Antonio Marquez Lara thanks for the ""coke""
0 likes@Berk GƶnenƧ I see a redditor, I like
0 likesWham bham thank you for the coke take me back to my cell
4 likesI feel so important because I know what this means!!! š
0 likesItās horrible that I know. But I know!
Don't forget to thank them for the Coke.
2 likesThis comment thread rules. š
1 likeLMFAOOOOOOššššššš
0 likes@Cody Schwabe fr tho I love these things
0 likesGee, gosh, that was a million years ago, haha idk maybe I did maybe I didn't I can't remember gosh ššš¤¦šæāāļø
3 likesThe coppers never give me coke when I ask for it
0 likesAlso if they show you your home phone number donāt say whoās is that
2 likesAnd dont you dare speak about doggy boi
1 likeHaha I just discovered this channel and am binge watching all the videos. Your comment is amazing.
1 likealso make sure to tell them you just wanna go back to your cell - from the desk of Ms. Sorella
0 likesMore thumbs up for this one. Insider knowledge right there.
0 likes"Wam, bam, thanks for the coke put me back in the cell"
2 likesflashback to Nam
1 likeššš Iām so late to this, but it took me OUT š
1 likeAHAHA I know I've watched this channel too much when I get all these references
1 like@Berk GƶnenƧ yeah Iāve been watching these videos since yesterday and I can already spot the memes
1 likeLove the references.
0 likesNice reference
0 likesI think I saw a flyer....I MAY have?!?!?!
2 likesAs for now, don't forget to make suicidal hand gesture while mentioning demons and voices
4 likes@Riooo Literal cancer level cringe
0 likes@Joe Mo ikr lol, he watched too many horror movies
0 likesI am a subscriber to this channel... I understand this comment! That one was a 1.5 hr video
0 likesI'm weakš¤£š¤£
0 likesHahahaha
0 likesBrooooo š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesHella nice reference.
1 likeAHAHAHAHA
0 likesšššš
0 likesNgl Jennifer was a character šš
1 likepffftttt
0 likesanother binge watch, I see
Iām crying bro
0 likesA coke and a butterfinger... reminds me of Jeff
1 likeAlso be named Michael
0 likesThey never gave Jeff his butterfinger. They never layed a damn finger on his butterfinger. This was not my original comment but a comment I really enjoyed credit to the original commenter
0 likesBut first of all,, be a law abiding citizen
0 likesYAS he loves that baby
1 like@vexxy ānooooooā so weird his answering tone or āyeeeessssā
0 likesThis is my new favourite comment ever lmao
0 likesLearning fast
0 likesOmfg im ded
0 likesNO LOOOL
0 likes#FreeJeffrey
0 likesNever rape or kill anybodyā¦
0 likesI donāt know. I donāt know.
0 likes...So you brought in Ms. Pan's punchline too, right?
0 likes@brenden baxter hi mommy
0 likesLmao
0 likesHAHA OMG
0 likes@vexxy Steven said , Yes, No, I don't know.
0 likesAlways says āwhat is it 2009 that was million years ago š¤Ŗā
2 likesMm hmmm
0 likesFuckin right š¤š»š¤£
0 likesThis.
0 likesThat's it.
And donāt look in the fridge for your moms purse
0 likesIām literally crying, this was so on point!!! š¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesJenniferrrrrrr
3 likesHe loves that baby :) :|
2 likesiāve seen all those videos in a week!!!! i
0 likesor say āI donāt know.ā to every question and make sure to stare at the interrogator and move your head wherever they move!
2 likesAnd don't tell them all your exes are still alive š
2 likes@M O just finished that one!
0 likesBe Jeff.
0 likes@Servantofobedience š¤£
0 likesI'd watch a movie about jeff!!!!
2 likesI love how we all got this immediately š
2 likes@Cody Schwabe If it was a classic 300 SL Gullwing Coupe I'd love that baby too.
1 likeThe fact that everyone here has binge watched this channel is GOLDENšš
2 likesi love that all of us get every reference
1 likeI see weāre all on the same page!
0 likes#DoGgYbOi
1 likeTag line of this channel. šš½
1 like@Dhrogon Torres Million years ago to be exact.
2 likesLmao š
0 likesāI understood that referenceā
1 likefacts of life according to my JCS degree
3 likesIs this what we're doing now? Doing easter eggs? lol
1 likeWham bam, thanks for the coke, put me back in the cell
1 likeLmaoo
0 likesāYou only wash your clothes once every 2 weeks?!ā
3 likesāSTEPHEN!!!!!ā
and NEVER tell them that you kicked a dog once
0 likesThis is going to be an inside joke in the crime investigation fandom huh?
3 likesand NEVER speak of the demons
2 likes@Gabadaba especially after saying you never hurt a spider
2 likes@GreenWeenie she said geez more than morty in a single season lol
2 likesMike is hungry and cold. Warm up some of that meaty substance found in the pipes and tell him its Kentucky Fried Chicken š. Oh, wait. Wrong channel.
1 likeAnd always say āno. Yes.. I donāt knowā while staring into their soul.
3 likesLmaooš¤£
0 likes@Dhrogon Torres geez... hmm.. I may have... it happened millions of years ago...
2 likesGod looking at this thread gives me some reassurance lol... I am not the only one who binge watches his videos...
1 likeššš
0 likesššššš
0 likesI hate that I understand this
1 likeWish the steeevvvhun detective did all the integrations JCS reviews
0 likes@vexxy or just donāt commit heinous crimes.
0 likesOkay Jennifer calm down.
2 likesLmao everybody on here has binge watched all the other videos on this channel and makes cross references
2 likesThe legend of āJeffā, what it looks like to pretend to be crazy and Jenniferās solution
1 likeLMFAO YOU'RE GOLDDDDDD
0 likesi did not kill travis... i was not even close to him
1 likeLmao gg man
0 likesthis is gold
0 likesomfg jennifer and that mercedes
2 likes"STEEVUN!"
2 likes...or ask the demon voice in your head if he knows an attorney
2 likesAnd donāt give too many details!! Also, donāt look directly at the hidden camera then proceed to request murder for hire.
2 likesBut the truth is if you commit a crime, binge watching interrogation videos will not work in your favor
Wham bam thank you for the coke , put me back in the cell
2 likesššš¤£
0 likes@Dhrogon Torres like a million years ago maybe?
2 likesAnd donāt say āI think I saw a stickā
1 likeNiceššš
0 likesHahaha š¤£
0 likesAh a man of class I see.
1 likeWe all been here long enough to get this reference š¤£
3 likesSteeeeeveeen!!!
2 likesšššš¤¦š½āāļø
0 likesšš
0 likesššššš
0 likesJeff ran that interrogation
1 likeš¤£šš¤£š I know where this is from
0 likesHAHA not the Mercedes āš
2 likesHAHAHAHHAHA ULTIMATE REFERENCE RIGHT HERE
0 likesLike Jeff?
1 likethe fact that i understand both of these references shows that i've watched too much of this channel....
1 likeNot sure if these two detectives are the best interrogators.
0 likesask the demon if he knows a good lawyer
1 likeWham bam put me back in the cell
0 likes@MKMajestic I saw what you saw and I heard what you heard and that was not me!
0 likes@Romesa or the trip to Utah that had 18 extra hours
1 likelol
0 likes@Viking Queen I'm 5000% sure of it ššš
1 likei just watched that video before this one š
0 likesI-
0 likesAlso tell them that you would "never ever ever ever ever ever do that"
2 likesOhhh I see what you did there!
0 likesDon't say gee, and don't add weird details
1 likešš
0 likesAnd one thing for sure. You must be confident in the way you spoke. But don't go over the board like, 5000% confident.
2 likes@s h a d Ćø w b a n n e d actually that's not true, in America at least. In the states the investigators cannot take your DNA without your consent from you or anything including a coke can without a warrant from a judge. And when they get a warrant they'll just take it straight from your mouth with a swab so no need to take it from a used coke can. If they take it from a coke can or from you without consent or without a warrant they could risk having a judge throw the case out so they won't even risk it. Hollywood movies and television shows like CSI make people think cops can just grab your DNA from a cigarette butt and solve the case. It's not legal in real life. It may be different in Canada or other countries, but in the US it's illegal to do that.
0 likesHahaha. I got that reference.
0 likes"Geez, ya know, I just CANT REMEMBER"
2 likesThis comment took me out, amazing
1 likeIām so confused.
0 likesYeah mcdaniel
0 likes@Gii Ness been there many times š
0 likesLMFAO!!!!!!
0 likesGeez Gosh, that was like a Million years ago, Gosh..what year is it?
2 likesThink this comment is for Jennifer's solution lol.
2 likes@vexxy is
0 likes@Cody Schwabe Uighur Iām nmhigh huh juju ty this morning lol I just just woke
0 likesiām glad weāve all watched every single video
2 likesš¤£š¤£ he loves that baby.. that was so bizarre how she said that
2 likes@GreenWeenie gosh that was like a million years ago
2 likes@Naomi Rose The one about Stephanie Lazarus, she crazy!
1 like@mikedevlin bmx Super crazy...
0 likes@wouldnt you like to know weatherman? You are definitely not alone!
1 likeLol
0 likesI literally started watching 5 hours ago and already get all these references.
2 likesi love this reference
1 likeu make sure u get that butterfinger or u dont talkk
1 likeLmao this comment is paying respect to all of JCSās videos. I remember hearing Jennifer Pan day that and being like wow lmao
1 likeI've seen that case :D
1 likelol
0 likes@GreenWeenie ok, which one was this? Someone fill a newbie in. :)
0 likes@Ruth Dederick No Problem, it's the episode about Stephanie Lazarus, it's pretty wild and she's hella annoying. Please watch and report back...š
1 like@vexxyLet's not forget about the mask of women's undies that he made and wore! š³ That's like Buffalo Bill shizz..my worst nightmare...
0 likesAlso, never break eye contact with the investigator. Stare into their soul.
1 like@Gii Ness š¤Ŗš
0 likesAww gosh geeze that was so long, that was a million years ago. I mean what's this about? That was so long ago now I don't even remember what she looked like.
1 likeExcellent comment
0 likesOr the greatest option, don't murder people.
2 likesNot that I blame you, but I wonder if everyone in this comment thread would be making jokes and laughing along had this been their little girl or younger sister. The world is a strange place. I suppose its just nature.
0 likeswhat?
0 likesAla Jennifer Pan
1 likeYeah that cringe murdererššš
0 likesI understood that reference!
0 likesWhy did you have to remind me of her? She made me cringe when she said that about her dad's car!!!! š
0 likesš poor Jeff
0 likesI wonder if he's trying to remove the evidence under his blanket š¤ š³
1 like@Dhrogon Torres million years š
1 likeI'm only here for the coke. š
1 likešššš
0 likesššš
0 likesBut what happens to me? š„
1 likeDamn I can't handle this comment anymore ahahahhah
0 likesThe standom has spoken. š
0 likeswhich video was the Mercedes from?
0 likesthese are so good every time
0 likes@Joe Varghese Geez hmmmm I dunno... Doesn't ring a bell at the moment... I saw the video a milion years ago geeezzz . I don't recall the name of it, sorry
1 like@ZĆ© Pedro oh that cop lady who killed the nurse ? LOOL
0 likes@Joe Varghese Haha no! I think the girl's name is Jennifer, the one about the Mercedes
1 likeI have to give it to Rafferty, he's a psychopath but did exactly what a suspect should do during an interrogation. Deny, deny, deny and let the lawyer handle it.
0 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ people who watched that episode would noe
0 likesBetter.... don't commit crimes
0 likesāWham bam thank you for the coke, put me back in the cellā
1 likehell yeaaaaaahhhh XDDDDDDDDDDDd
0 likesAnd don't tell them about the 21 foot rule or how the gun is a the force multiplier .
1 like@Cody Schwabe I just watched that one... She may as well have just said at that moment: "I did it, guys"
0 likesWell said
0 likesRule of thumb, if they know you did it, and you know you did it, first things first request a polygraph test directed by the smartest person in the universe... and then proceed to lie.šššššš
0 likesLook at me Steven....
0 likesDon't impersonate a sea lion or do a hand stand while rambling on about your good Christian values.
2 likesThis is the comment that wins lmao
1 likeI got all these references and realized Iāve been watching way too much of this channel! š
0 likeswhereās the butterfinger you promised
0 likesOr declare how honorable you are.
0 likesBut whatās going to happen to her?!
0 likes@vexxy HAHAHAH I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS TOOšššš¼
0 likesAnd when you get the coke bring my back to my damn cell
1 like@Servantofobedience that was ages ago
1 likeLOLLLL
0 likesOnly true fans get this.
2 likesOr live by societies laws and orders and don't kill someone
0 likes@Addy G Trying to shame suspect over dirty-laundry; an advanced interrogation technique
0 likesYou son of a gunā¦that was clever š
1 likeNever say to Detectives "Im scared I dont want to say the wrong thing" š
0 likesiām glad weāve all experienced the same thing. watching āwhat pretending to be insane looks likeā and then binging all these videos lol
1 likeHahaha! Fucking classic!
2 likesHahaha
0 likesI just started watch these vids, and Iām loving all the lore in the comment sections.
1 likeJenniferās dad loves his Mercedes
1 likeOr what about not murdering someone?
1 likeIām not sure if about ANY of this ā¦so maybe itās time to check my pictures?!
0 likesLore
0 likes=))))
1 likeAs a an addict to this channel myself, I approve this comment š
0 likesniceeeee!
0 likesThats oddly solid advice :D
1 likeWhat we all should have learned from this channel
1 likeOnly true jcs fans will know these references
2 likesNever rape and kill people
0 likesThe Jeff method never fails š¤£
1 likeLmaooooooo šššššš
0 likesāAny other cars stand out to you?ā
1 likeššš šāš ššš mmmmm
hmhmhm all I remember is that 260Z
Worldās most perfect comment
0 likesIve not had a butterfinger for years!
0 likesThis comment is hilarious dude
1 likeWhy do I know all of the reference š
0 likesI'll have to look at my pictures. I'm a picture nut.
0 likesOMG HAHAHA
0 likesThis is legit one of my favorite comments on a JCS video. You my Sir are a legend!šš
1 likeAnd make sure your demon has an attorney he likes
1 likeLol these were the last 2 videos I watched
0 likesOMG I actually understand all these references... I need to stop watching interrogation videos...
1 likeHah, I understood this reference.
0 likesšššššš½šš½šš½šš½ if you get the joke then we are family at this point
1 likeOr hire an undercover cop as a hitman
0 likesI spy: the Jennifer's solution reference
0 likesOoos so many comments! But I just wanna mention one more tip : Also Dont do a headstand š¤¦āāļø that was unforgettable š
2 likesI understood that reference
1 likeš¤£
2 likesOh Jenny what a down fall
0 likesAlways ask for a pit sandwich, extra horseradish
1 like@vexxy WHY, STEPHEN??? WHY???
1 like@Collin D šæ
1 likeJeff is da bomb
0 likesWe would suffer alone endlessly. Thank God we have comments
1 like@Altus Show because these communities are aware of the harshest truths in reality.
0 likes??
0 likesYou have learned a lot from JCS I see. I definitely agree with the last part, about the Mercedes and the fact that he loves that baby.
0 likes@Jazmin Joyce that sucks because i am Michael but i have no skeletons in my closet
0 likesExactly! If he had a lawyer maybe he could be free ! He seems like a nice guy, maybe have him date your daughter
1 likeDon't forget "How many years ago was it I don't even know!"
1 likeBruh
0 likesLol
0 likesLol!
0 likesWam bam thanks for the coke bring me back to my cell
2 likes@GreenWeenie like a million years ago
1 like@mcman420 itās ok homey no need to cry
0 likesI'm addicted to this channel. Incredible work.
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Same haha tryna restrain myself to just 2 videos a day š
1 likeMe too! I discovered him three days ago and canāt get enough of it!!
4 likesi watched all videos and i dont know what to do now š
9 likes@SADat4AM theres other good channels out there just not quite at the level this one is. That Chapter and Crime Vault are both really good.
5 likesMe too, wish he uploaded more frequently but I do understand the quality over quantity mentality
3 likesI agree! Definitely keeping me intrigued while I telework.
0 likesBeen on the channel for 6 months now , even followed him on the old channel where theres a video about Narcissistic personality disorder , I've watched all of the videos on this channel for like 10 time over each , and I still watch it and fall asleep to it , Kizzumes voice is so soothing...
0 likes@Parkour Lemmino is crazy when it comes to that. Only 3ish videos a year. But theyāre so good
0 likesI feel like the detective was talking even whilst drinking his coffee
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Tea!
15 likesYou cracked m eup!! :D xD
2 likesš¤šššššš you are sick man
1 likeš¤£
0 likesHaha! I am definitely using this phrase
0 likesAudible laugh from this one, thanks for that
0 likesššš he literally did that as I read your comment hahahaah
0 likesSpeech level 45 reached
0 likesNew perk: ventriloquist.
@ 8:10 lol
0 likes@SnailKnight 90 omg this comment has me in stitches LMAO
0 likes"You know what I psychopath is Mike?"
1299 likes"I've never met one."
"I just met one tonight."
should've saw that coming, but damn that threw my sides into orbit.
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2 likesšššššš
0 likesTimestamp?
2 likes@Jasmine 50:30
3 likesbest line !!
0 likesSomething about the detective mentioning how Tori was going to have a little party because her mom redecorated her room made it so much more disturbing like so innocent,
287 likesyou know?
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Meek Mork thereās a page her dad runs on fb
5 likes@meekmork ugh totally agree :(
1 like@Meel Mork IKR, that just broke my heart, and the part about going back to get her butterfly earrings hit me hard .
5 likesDusty River Hoop well said
1 likeI'm just amazed how he is able to keep a one-sided conversation going like that. It goes to show how different personality types can succeed at different professions. I could never do something like this.
56 likesI remember this case. I was 10 years old at the time. Because of this... awful, awful crime my parents made sure my sister and I had a secret word that we were to ask for should someone other than our parents/grandparents unexpectedly pick us up from school. I remember that a lot of my friends also had secret words after this, and there was an instance in which it prevented a girl from getting into a car with a man who claimed to know her parents. Such a sad case Iāll remember forever.
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Its important to also warn children from not going with strange women. Itās not just men who are involved in this, as you can see with this case!
1 like@penny jane never said it wasnāt important!
0 likes@Olive I didnāt mean to offend you, but rather add to your statement. As you want to imply: its important.... and therefor worth mentioning.
1 like"That's why pencils have erasers. Because we all make mistakes" That's like something my mother would tell me after I bodge an exam paper. Not after murdering a child, lmao
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Yeah...I did a spit take on the eraser comment. š¤Æ
20 likesHe's down playing the crime so that pervert, mike, might open up and admit guilt. Strategic.
269 likesPencil eraser = time machine
25 likes@Dusty I'm fully aware of what he's doing. It still feels very out of place
30 likes@Dusty I remember an episode of The Shield, where the interrogator even insinuated he shared the same "interests" as the suspect, Dutch Wagenbach was a bit creepy though so it was sort of believable!
4 likesDodo..he is trying to get him to confess. It is about strategy.
11 likes@Shannon Davidson 2 things. 1.) I never want to do this job. 2.) (As I've said) I know why he's doing it, I get the idea of making it feel less serious to draw out a confession. It doesn't change the fact that it feels out of place (and I'm not saying that to imply there's some better technique or some shit simply that it caught me off guard and feels strange)
8 likesThe idea is that people have a tendency to only want to lie only a little bit, and the strategy is to draw that little bit out of them. For example, when people get caught for speeding, and an officer asks them if they knew how fast they were going, people will often lie, saying that they didn't know how fast they were going, but they will still paradoxically admit that they knew they were speeding. As if they didn't care about the ticket and only cared about what the officer felt about them
2 likes@Neill Coetzer "it still feels out of place" - that's why you aren't the head of the behavioral sciences unit and the interrogator is.
4 likes@Luke Hyde I honestly don't get why everyone is leaving this comment. I've explained before that it's not something I'd ever even want to do, I don't care for it as a job and wouldn't want to take it further than videos. Not only that but I understand why they're doing it but christ is someone not allowed to have a giggle when someone says silly shit like that.
9 likesChrist you people
@Luke Hyde There are other and better ways to deal with creeps like rafferty than licking their asses like this so-called "interrogator" was doing. He was getting nowhere with rafferty and the interrogation was a complete failure. The sooner you realize this, the better.
1 like@Neill Coetzer I totally agree. This "interrogation" was a complete failure. And the interrogatorĀ“s spineless, brown-nose behavior certainly contributed to it.
1 like@Luke Hyde Yes, profiling catches many criminals. Brown-nose "interrogators" do not. Never have and never will.
1 like@Neill Coetzer are you a behavioral psychologist?
0 likes@Neill Coetzer dude these people gotta be trolling at this point. A THIRD GUY left a comment saying basically the same thing. "ArE YoU a BeHaViORaL AnAlYsT!!?"
2 likesThe pencil eraser thing seemed like the sort of thing you'd hear in a dark comedy rather than a real case where a psycho killed an 8 year old girl.
@Beardly 01 yeah right. Exactly my thoughts. They must be either trolling or an idiot to not see I'm mentioning it not from a psychological view but purely as an outsider. These people...
3 likes@Neill Coetzer welcome to YouTube comments where people analyse every word you say and then tell you why they think you are wrong for saying it. Lol. It caught me off guard too bro so I guess I'm not behaviour analyst material either. Just ignore all the tossers mate, not worth your time.
4 likesNeill Coetzer reminds me of that simpsons joke when they arrest an unarmed suspect and the officer's gun fires barely missing their head and he just says 'oooh whoopsi'
0 likes@Neill Coetzer I get what you're trying to say. I had to double back and listen to it again to be sure I heard correctly. It was so out of place, it would've been funny if this wasn't a serious crime.
0 likesAgree
0 likesSir, a mistake's a mistake, no matter how insignificant it may be. Sometimes you fuck up an exam, other times you accidentally have someone stumble into your knife collection. Mistakes happen. Not that I would be speaking from experience.
0 likes@Johnny Johnster um wowš
1 like"When you draw the line too hard you cant erase it"
2 likesThat's exactly why he said it. To downplay the situation. Almost everything this detective said was geared towards downplaying the situation. That is to make the suspect feel more comfortable about opening up to the detective
0 likes@Neill Coetzer itās easier to be the editor than he author. I would find it hard to not throttle him myself. I agree that itās an unusual comment.
0 likes@Neill Coetzer maybe he's using that to evoke feelings of when he may have had that said to jim before by another parent or authority figure, quite snart actually.
0 likesI felt it was an appropriate analogy to weaken the suspect given the context of the approach at the time.
0 likesDang your mom was nice
0 likesIf you watch a lot of interrogation videos, they actually use that line a lot. I find it odd every time.
0 likesIt seems like the detectives often talk to these people as they would to a child.
0 likesLOL I heard that on The Simpsons
0 likes53:43 - all I can say is 53:43
1 likeThe interrogator is so unbelievably skilled and reserved in the face of someone so disgusting, he doesn't let his game plan slip at any second.
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The detective had 2 little kids at a time, he must have felt so many things, but stayed focused
18 likes@FRQ it makes no difference if he had kids or not. Theyāre trained not to be emotional.
5 likesThis monster had the audacity to be offended by the ābad copā detective, when what this monster did deserved way more wrath than that
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The more twisted the perps the more theyāll try to drag people down in the mud with their antics.
14 likesBut i must admit iād never for the life of me be able to keep my nerves facing that kind of monster.
37:05
6 likesThat "bad cop" ate this kid's lunch.
3 likesSickening. They should have a small island for these grotesque scumbags where they're hunted and ended. A slow, methodically drawn out hunt over a few weeks.
0 likesThe terror that poor little girl must have felt..........unimaginable. And the pain her family felt š šŖ
I had to like this comment because it was left at 666 likes and that's bad juju š¤£
1 likeOne of the hardest things about interrogating these animals aside from having to play nice to get the information must be simply resisting the temptation to beat them to a pulp.
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Putting them away for good is more rewarding than beating them.
31 likesThe cruelty that some humans exhibit is absolutely disgusting. I congratulate those interrogators for keeping a level head.
15 likes@zyqx I dont think people get a job in criminology to beat people up. There are other professions for that: ufc fighter, bouncer at a titty bar. I dont know
7 likesAnimals don't do this, only humans are capable of such evil
7 likes@lisa inger animals do evil on the regs.
0 likes@Lizzifer I'm a criminologist in a small town in Colorado. Our version of 'beating them to a pulp' is when the scientific method is executed correctly. We catch a lot of bad people. All day. Everyday. We use science to do so. That is very satisfying.
8 likesHis inmates in prison will take care of that
5 likes@Patrick O'Donnell Thank-you for everything that you do. I can't show my level of gratitude well enough for people like you. Over 25 years ago I was molested and I still want to harm my attacker. I thank God everyday that I didn't kill the individual that molested me when I think about my wife and kids, but I still fear what I would do, if I was ever put face to face with that soulless garbage again. I hate that I cannot place that part of the past to rest permanently. Thank you again for doing this line of work.
5 likes@Matthew Wilson it means a lot to me that'd youd say that. I too was a victim of sexual assault. IM NOT VICTIM ANYMORE. I believe it isnt me that catches the bad guys/gals but the applicaation of the scientific method that does it. The facts are there, my job is to interpret the already established facts. Scientific literacy is so important. I would encourage anyone, everyone to understand the scientific method and also study brasilian jujitsu. BJJ saves more lives and prevents more crimes than anything. More than anything! MORE THAN ANYTHING!! But also, the scientic method.
3 likes@Patrick O'Donnell I took judo for a couple years when I was a teen and I have had to use it unfortunately a couple times to defend myself. I agree with you on the importance of defending oneself. I am a big fan of science, but I am an engineer by profession. I do chemistry, geology and physics experiments as hobbies. I guess you could throw in microbiology as well since I have an addiction to my microscopes. I mainly focus on mineral synthesis and strive to achieve specific control of uniformity, crystal lattice and habit characteristics. I collect the elements of the periodic table, extracting as much as possible from rocks and minerals that I collect from nature. It keeps my mind busy.
1 likeoh ffs
0 likesheroĀ hopefully he isnt able to hold his farts in anymore
0 likesOnce you go through a few dozen assholes I assume you build up an immunity.
1 likePutting them away for good is bullshit. Child molester/murderer needs death penalty, no questions asked.
1 likeI couldnāt do it. They make me physically sick, and I would surely lose my cool. I admire the people that put them away, but I could never do it
0 likesamen
0 likes@anon anonecki exactly my thoughts. It probably has already happened, and will continue happening. And it makes me smile.
0 likeslike that animal blundetto
0 likesI was thinking the same. How he had to play it off as something that is not that bad. How do you go home and chill after this?
0 likesPatrick O'Donnell definitely not.
0 likesDoesn't a teddy bear come with that banky....
1 likethe interrogator could literally talk a person to death if he really tried.
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He probably could š
13 likesImagine his kids bringing home a failing report card...
53 likes@Joshua lol
3 likes@Joshua Now, I'm sure you wish you could turn back the hands of time and study more for that math test or spend more time writing that English paper, but unfortunately we're past that, okay? Now you've got to live with the decisions you made and your bad grades and decide how you will move on, okay? Maybe you're just a bad student who doesn't care about your grades, but I don't think that's the case and this is your chance to explain what went wrong and give yourself a chance to move past your bad decisions, okay?
58 likesSomething like that? ;)
And then pull out a confession
2 likesHe actually does a good job in what his job is
5 likesBruuuuuhhhhš¤£
1 likeThere is medieval torture, and there's this guy...I'd choose the former.
0 likeshe said he was too sick to talk and the interrogator goes āthen you can just listenā. yall donāt listen. pay attention in school lmao.
0 likesThis detectiveās interrogation is poetry. The World have to thank people like him.
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It broke me!!!!
7 likesI need to confess about liking pineapple on pizza... I canāt keep this secret in me anymore.
true! heās a spitter lol, not sure if itās a canadian thing though but he ends a lot of his sentences with āokay?ā and āalright?ā
6 likes@walking olga yeah i noticed that, the interrogator has really great technique and i think that ending most of his phrases with a question directed at him was meant to build rapport or make him feel more comfortable and connected to what he was saying, it might also be because a question snaps him back into reality and stops him from trying to come up with something in his head or dissasociating. its a really long session of mental exhaustion and although they didnt get a confession they had everything they needed when they entered that room
2 likesHe talked too much in the beginning. I stopped listening about 5 minutes into his rambling. Is that part of his interrogation?
0 likes@KTJ its about building a relationship with the suspect so there is a level of trust and the suspect is more willing to open up and divulge information.
1 like@KTJ yeah they say itās so the suspect canāt form their own thoughts or dissociate
3 likes@Kayla Tijerina yes it's explained in the video. It's to keep their mind racing and focused on what he's saying, so the suspect doesn't have the mental capacity to come up with a lie or disassociate and escape.
3 likes@KTJ yeah. It sounds like it's rambling but every single thing the detective is doing and saying is absolutely calculated. He's "rambling" to break the guy down psychologically and not let him think.
2 likesThink about someone asking you a question you need to think about, but as you're thinking they keep talking to you. It's incredibly difficult to think straight if someone is just chatting nonsense to you. That's why people say shit like "shut up and let me think" etc.
It sounds like the detective is just talking rubbish, but this is actually psychologically exhausting. Even though he sounds all nice about it, it's still exhausting.
@KTJ itās mental exhaustion, the point is to give the person being interrogated no time to think or come up with coherent thoughts
1 likeI feel bad for Rafferty's lawyer. He knows the guy is guilty as sin, but knows if he doesn't do his job, a mistrial will be declared and the guy might get away with what he did.
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@Princeofcups Poc pardon?
136 likes@Princeofcups Poc um dude they knew this guy was guilty already. Tons of evidence and a confession from the girlfriend. Cops change their game plan depending on the situation. This was to make sentencing easier
152 likes@Princeofcups Poc Just saw this. I get what you are saying. There are people who get screwed (i.e. Guilty Until Proven Innocent video from JCS). But in this case, I believe they already had overwhelming evidence which all came flooding in once his accomplice confessed. I've also seen videos where cops try to get someone to confess by bluffing their way through, but because the guy was innocent, he called them out on it. In this, however, I think they did right.
45 likes@Samuel Rodriguez And to think most other systems in society kill, or aid in killing, a higher percentage of people than that... Damn. Take the Education system, for one.
8 likes@Samuel Rodriguez You've completely taken my comment out of proportion and meaning.
26 likesI meant that the Educational system is so broken, that it's actually killing people, too.
Heard of the 'school-to-prison pipeline'? It's basically that disadvantaged children enter school without adequate support for their needs, get told they're failures because the Educational system isn't actually built to help them, but disadvantage them more, and this results in them going straight in the direction of crime and other prison sentences, that can see them completely waste their lives away, just because they weren't given the initial help when they needed it in their formative years.
Maybe not the best example, as the 4% rate of the Prison/Death sentence system killing falsely accused people would cause a higher amount of death, but if you then further look into the 'school-to-prison pipeline', you'll see what I mean.
I like how you just went ahead and guessed at my political affiliation, whilst my first comment clearly states that I have an issue with *all systems*. Lethally injecting someone would physically do less harm than the self-destructive Educational system, though.
May I ask what your political affiliation is?
Critical Race Theory is something I'm still learning about, as I'm not from the US, and it frankly isn't something I've even heard discussed where I live, in context to the word, that is. Out of-context, it's something treated as fact.
In saying that, yes, liberalism has greater hindered CRT (and its precursor, CLS), and that is a fact. By definition, liberalism is only socially left, but still accepting and wanting of an economically right society and proceedings. So whilst CRT is socially accepted in liberal mindsets, nothing is economically done to stop, or reduce, the economical disadvantages POC experience. My view, if you're wanting to do something, you do it in all contexts, not just half-arse it and hope the economical exploitation eventually stops one day.
Interested on your thoughts, because, again, I'm still new to CRT, as it's never been a highly politicised theory where I live, and I only heard about it a few months ago :)
@ė ģ§źø ģķź³ ģģ“ bro you fucking killed him...
13 likes@JustCallMeNoah What can I say, a mind procrastinating on studying for exams is a powerful weapon :/
8 likes@ė ģ§źø ģķź³ ģģ“ That might be A factor, but I doubt it's THE factor, or the main issue.
0 likesThis is just my thoughts, but I'd say if you lived in a shitty neighborhood, but had a good school, you'd still be in the pipeline you talked about.
I believe the bigger of the two (and they are both problems, I don't deny that) is that these kids are raised in a drug infested, gang riddled neighborhoods. And if we're talking about the inner city schools in particular, the AA community has been suffering from a massive missing father problem, which we know fucks kids up.
I'm not trying to argue with you. Just making conversation on an interesting topic you've brought up.
@Samuel Rodriguez SERIOUSLY WHAT DOES CRITICAL RACE THEORY HAVE TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS!!!!
5 likes@ė ģ§źø ģķź³ ģģ“ bro you destroyed that fragile clownššš
1 like@ė ģ§źø ģķź³ ģģ“ my bad for assuming your political ideology it's just wierd that your response was that the education system is worse then the death penalty killing innocent people. As for the school to prison your right it starts at a young age kids who cant concentrate as well as other kids are punished and kicked out of class. Theres isnt a system in place to support students who need not only financial support but also extra support when learning. Another factor is drugs students get caught and arrested and withdrawn from school at alarming rates. Not to mention not every student even gets free lunch. It's a cumulative amount of things which lead to people losing their life. I would agree "Systemic" problems are usually worse however just because one thing is worse then the other doesnt mean we cant solve both.
1 likeI heard he didn't want to represent him, but he had to. That's funny when ur own lawyer can't stand you!
0 likes@Samuel Rodriguez trying to simultaneously agree to save face but now trying to still show how you're right. Love it.
4 likesNaw a mistrial in his case wonāt make a difference. Theyāll just try him again. A case so high profile they really dot their eyes across the board. He still deserves a defense. Iām assuming the max in Canada is life. I feel bad though because this case canāt really do any good for him unless he was fighting a death penalty. Heās just a mouthpiece in a case like this.
0 likes@Weber He'll be in protective custody for the rest of his life. If he were in GP, it WOULD be a death sentence.
1 like@Rayne Michelle no the death penalty is more expensive.
0 likes@Rayne Michelle also two wrongs dont make a right. Guantanamo Bay is a perfect example torture is torture no matter what.
0 likes@Samuel Rodriguez Lethal injection for a child murderer is not the same as torture. Torture is worse, imo.
2 likes@Samuel Rodriguez OK, what does that have to do with anything I said?
0 likes@Rayne Michelle most definitely at lea in America for sure.
0 likesThat has to be one of the most demoralizing things. I guess in his profession he knows to let feelings go and focus his mind on the book, black or white, no gray areas. It's easier said than done but for someone to pull that off, that's pretty incredible.
0 likes@Gunship ehh. I think it takes a toll. In the interview though itās game day and they love it. It depends on the person though. Iām not a violent guy what so ever unless you attack me. Obviously heās disgusted the whole time. He already knows what he did. Itās not that hard to be somewhat forgiving and cordial. Maybe most people canāt control their emotions? I certainly can
0 likesThe way I look at it is the defence attorney's job is not to get him off or make him seem innocent but to keep the prosecution in check so they have correctly assessed the facts of the case and that he gets a fair and just trail not a witch hunt. not just for rafferty's sake but for the good of all citizens
1 like@Princeofcups Poc Guy Paul Moran comes to mind
0 likesthe point of being a lawyer is to try to get your defendant off the chopping block. they decided to help maybe murderers and definitive murderers when they signed up for the job.
1 likeLawyers are not simply for defending innocence.
0 likesThat's how our justice system works. Everyone deserves a lawyer, even a sick fuck like him. At this point the lawyer isn't defending his innocence, so much as trying to eliminate the possibility of capital punishment.
0 likes@Princeofcups Poc ummm, you clearly dont understand some things
0 likes@Princeofcups Poc ontario doesnāt have the death penalty bud
0 likesThese cops were too nice. Try waterboarding instead.
0 likesAs a mother, the words "rubbing up and down in your car" made me feel sick. Thinking about what this poor little girl went through has me seething and it's just tragic. It makes the "I'm not mad at you" strategy so painful to watch.
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Totally feel the same. Its so heart breaking.
22 likesThere's only one thing you do with a man like this, you let the mother and father have him with a claw hammer. Thats the only justice.
37 likesGot molested as a child and reading this made me feel happy. Thank you ms Priest š»
22 likes@Billy B itās easy to say this while watching. Anyway, you can pursue it if you think you are good at it
5 likesWould you feel the same way if it had happened to a little boy, your son?
0 likes@Jay Aargh ....that's not a nice question
1 likeNot a mother, and I guarantee, it hit me the same...
0 likes@Jay Aargh it is not only shocking but incredibly sad that you think a mother would love her son any less because he is male. I'm sorry you were obviously not loved, but I know for a fact it is not because you are male.
1 likeThat last Det. is a baddass.
1 likeHuge respect to that investigator for sitting and putting him through as much of a mental barrage as he could!
96 likesI have a six year old daughter and this is absolutely the worst thing I've ever heard. I cried like a baby. I been thinking about it all day.
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have you watched the "there's something abouy casey" video? i don't have children, but i cried all through it
16 likes@romeo god that case is horrible ):
8 likesMy wee girl in p2.
1 likeMine is 7, I can tell u..I could/would eat his heart if something happened to my children..
7 likesI feel like a fuck now..,I have tears and angry as the same time..
Hold your daughter close, man! Keep being a good dad and youāll have done everything in the world for her.
19 likesAmen man. This is my biggest nightmare.
2 likes33 weeks preggo with an almost 2 year old girl here! These are addicting to watch but boy did this one hurt my heart, I cried throughout the vid too :(
5 likesThe world we live in you can never put your guard down specially when it comes to kids. We also need to educate our kids to not to trust strangers.
5 likesI had the same feeling as a father of two girls.... disgusting.
2 likesI have a ten month old. I will do everything in my power to protect her I donāt even like posting pictures of her online. My parents did everything they could to protect me and I still had bad shit happen to me. You just have to do everything you can and love them
2 likesDon't watch this stuff, this messes people up. And mothers? Why do you watch this?
1 likestay strong sista
1 like@Zeuna to know what we're up against
2 likes@Zeuna my mom likes true crime too, its just interesting
1 like@romeo Iāve been binging all the JCS videos but thatās the one i couldnāt bear to finish
1 likeWhat a pathetic waste of space; sitting there sniveling like a child throwing himself a pity party like we should all feel sorry for him. Disgusted and in awe that he has the gall to act like that after what he did to that innocent child. Props to the investigator for being professional and patient in this situation because lord knows I wouldn't be able to stomach more than 30 seconds of this with out flying off the handle.
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I was thinking exactly this, the patience the investigator has is amazing. I'm desperate for someone to give him the bad cop routine too
7 likesThe interrogator has nerves of steel. Sitting across from this monster knowing what he did.
112 likesI really appreciate the content you upload.
47:35 The way the narrator basically just calmly explains, "Yeah, you can put down your notebooks, this part doesn't have any intellectual content I just think it's funny to watch this piece of shit get verbally choke slammed." is dry comedy in its most sublime form.
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More evidence JCS is Mr.Metokur aka Jim.
9 likesThere were 2 murderers in the room at that point.
19 likesThese videos are mesmerizing and terrifying.
78 likesAlso the interrogator has the patience of a saint.
If I was in a room sitting across from that murderer, I would probably loose my patience.
This one of those cases thatās truly difficult to hear about it. Itās beyond heartbreaking and unfair.
62 likesItās a terrifying reminder that we are still living amongst monsters that are pure evil.
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Agree, I almost couldn't watch this one
3 likes@Bubblekittea I couldn't. I made it through a few minutes at the start then skipped to the last few minutes. Thats about all i could stomach. There are no words to describe the atrocity that occurred. Probably the worst crime i think i've ever heard of.
2 likesThere's nothing new under the sun
0 likesThis interogator is so slick. Makes me proud to be a Canadian that we have guys like this. No mercy and fully confident in his well deserved skills. What an incredible display of knowledge and execution.
69 likes"I just met one today"
658 likes"Is that what you said to Tori before you killed her?"
I respect this man. Show no mercy, destroy him
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What? He said āweāre doneā not āI just met one todayā
6 likes@Ariana Grande they're two separate quotes of the investigator that the commenter finds badass, not a comment-and-response, also loved your new album
16 likes@KanadasKid lol you do know that's not the real Ariana Grande right?
9 likes@mchevre lmao
1 like@Ariana Grande the detective asked mike if he knew what a psychopath was, then followed up right after with "well i just met one today"
4 likesWow. This investigator is making me feel watched, like I'm being hunted, through my phone screen. He is GOOD at the verbal barbs/threats/lures
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Thats one of the reasons why I like this channel. Its like you can hear the sound of the psychological punches hitting the persons ego.
2 likesThe process is brutal, to an extent agonizing.
In almost any other circumstance, this would be psychological abuse.
But yet, this person deserves it.
What a great detective. Good with his words and doesn't let the murderer sit and think of a way out. Very good job sir.
25 likesWhen I saw the title of this video my stomach turned. I lived in Toronto when this happened, only a few minutes down the highway. Watching this video was hard, but I like knowing that he had to sit through this. Throwing the name Bernardo at him repeatedly, especially at the very end, was brilliant. If you don't know who that is, he's the most vile and hated man in Canada. Look up the name Paul Bernardo if you'd like to learn more. We don't have this kind of thing happen often in Canada, so when it does it really has an impact on you. I can't really say much more. Just feeling renewed anger and disgust.
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God bless you and the whole country of Canada. From Bowling Green, KY
3 likesGoogled him and ya he is sick.
1 like@Jenna Mattern Yep. Only reason he's alive is solitary confinement.
0 likesWhat about the thousand of murdered indigenous kids? Thereās a lot of that in Sweet ol Canada
1 like@Fatima It's horrible. But even with those, it's not nearly as bad here.
1 likeWow. The investigator did such an amazing job. So interesting to see the tactics unfold. He told the dude how it was. Even when they brought the other witness in. Wow is all I've got to say. š
6 likesāYouāre not some sick bastardā¦ā - must have been so hard to say and sound genuine.
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Yup I mean jeeeeeeesus I think most other folks would've just come in swinging knowing what he did.
3 likesI know I am late but god it was satisfying when the detective said āIām here for Tory. To make you squirm. And Iām having a good time doing itā. That was amazing.
47 likesThe saddest part is how she suffered in her last moments, her innocence was taken away from her, this was the moment she realized that not all people are good people. Some are monsters. She got caught purely because of her innocence and wanting to see the puppy. This person is not a man. He is the trash of humanity. He didn't deserve to be born.
25 likesI've been across from detectives before and this officer does an incredible job of engaging the suspect in dialog by telling him he is "assessing the threat." Naturally the suspect would feel compelled to win this guy over in order to get a good report to the court about his level of threat and lessen his punishment. He seems like an ally, not a threat. He's great at his job!
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In what occasion can you be across detectives
1 like@Ricky LaFleur you've never been interrogated for anything?
0 likes@Hollie Klumpp not in a suspect position
0 likesthat lead investigator gave me a small smile knowing that he hurt this literal man baby's feelings.
19 likesI can't imagine having to deal with these people all day every day.. I could hardly stomach something like this.
7 likesIāve watched a lot of these but this is def one of the best interrogators Iāve seen.
3 likesHard to believe this woman helped him to do this ! why? And how could she allow this to happen? Just terrible! No question he is an evil monster ! But she helped him its just really sad !
8 likes'Thats why pencils have erasers, because we all mistakes.' I am going to remember that. That detective is amazing.
6 likesits such an art what these investigators can do with psychological manipulation, in good hands
0 likes53:23 is so satisfying, I love how he tortures this disgusting waste of flesh. What a fantastic detective, love seeing this
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Yeah you can tell he was waiting to that for a while goodness gracious man.
0 likesI just found it unprofessional and lame. He let this case get under his skin and took his emotions out on this defenceless murderer.
0 likesPresumably he is incapable of an emotional response to the situation, would such a crime be possible otherwise? It seems important to point out the logic of high functioning psychopaths gravitating towards powerful political positions, resulting in the pathological nature of foreign policy with the multiplication of human suffering and damage caused.
0 likesThe narratorās comparison of the perpās disposition at interrogation vs his disposition when committing the crime is the vvery definition of cowardice.
7 likesI've almost vomited. I can't handle the image brought up by the 'bad cop'. It's just beyond my comprehension. I somehow can imagine hurting an adult, a person who, to a certain degree, is able to protect themself. But how sick and evil you have to be to hurt a child, be that cruel, destroy this child's soul and body. When he talks I feel so much anger and I cannot imagine what the parents felt. Being an investigator seems to be a very interesting job but I would be just too emotional, I just wouldn't be able to hide the disgust and anger. I know they are trained professionalists but they come back home and think about it, there is no way it doesn't affect them.
0 likesIve watched a lot of cases but this one boils my blood so much. God bless Victoria and her family
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Agreed. I have a little girl. Made me so angry i can't even put it into words.
0 likesAgreed. This one really pisses me off.
0 likesThe one thing I love about convicts is they do all the worst things possible to child molesters/killers. Katieās Revenge pops into my head but not nearly the worst heās going through. Heās got soft skin and doesnāt look like a fighter. Not to other men at least. They will love him. Thatās just this life..
0 likesI'm always amazed the amount of people who sit in the this guys spot and don't immediately say they want a lawyer. No matter what the crime I wouldn't let a cop get two words out before asking for one.
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This is in Canada, the laws here are different with respect to police interrogation. While suspects can ask for a lawyer, the police are not required to stop an interrogation after that request is made. We have something similar to 'Miranda', but the words you hear on all the TV shows aren't used here.
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4 likes"Ya haven't touched ya doughnut" it's the little things like this that remind you this crime took place in Canada. Such thoughtful people...I mean...like the ones who don't commit atrocities.....
I would like to give a nice crisp high five to the investigator who at the end mercilessly insults this piece of garbage. One of my favorite things he said... if you ask me why I'm here, I'm here for Tori...and I'm having a good time...
0 likesThe initial detective said "ok" a lot. I like the style of the lead investigator when he came in and let loose. Why do Canadian attorneys wear those ties?
1 likeDon't talk to cops without a lawyer especially if you know your innocent.
1 like55:09 that sigh of relief was so gratifyingā¦ that detective really made him feel small
1 likeI am from Windsor and have been to Mount Forest because my uncle lives there. I can't believe a monsterous act occurred there like this around there.
0 likesI been watching haunted ghost videos before coming across this. And I thought ghosts and demons were scary. Man was I wrong.
2 likesThis is like watching an exorcism.. you have to tease the demon out of the person and get their reaction.. damn, that interrogator wore me out
0 likesI was cracking up when the interrogator said "you're not built like that" and "you're not that guy" šš
6 likesāWe all make mistakes, thatās why pencil have erasers; itās that simple [ā¦] if I could turn back time for you Mike, I would, but itās not that simpleā (simply loved it)
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I read this as it was being saidā¦ cool moment. Hit hard
1 like1 I cannot do the friendly repertoire persona so props to those who can hold that down 100
0 likes2 his first words are complete denial of involvement, second are probability of innocence, third are - with laughter - acting innocent when the statement āsheās goneā came up
3 doing it at all then a resolution as such To protect themselves - THEYāLL DO IT AGAIN & PROBABLY DID BEFORE TO SOME DEGREE š”
This interrogater is the definition of a speaker
3 likesI love that they told him they're getting him food, make him wait an hour for it, then bring in his gf. That was fucking comedy
1 likethe we're done statement always makes me laugh, without fail
0 likesthis dude did not deserve the comfort of a thin blanket he received, glad he didn't even get his happy meal lol
Such a damn relief when the Lead Investigator comes in and says some of what needs to be said to this human shaped thing hiding in a blanket.
0 likesOh my GOD how the fuck can a person be so sick. I'm so happy iv been incarcerated b4 so I seen exactly what kinda life this man will have in prison. As soon as the convicts find out, he's gonna be crying out loud. Someone send a kite to his home prison so they find out, cuz not all prisons check paperwork. His torment should start right away. No flying under the radar like they do sometimes for a little while.
0 likesI live only an hour away from where this happened. I remember hearing about it at the time.
0 likessome of these surveillance videos, it's pretty amazing what they come up with
0 likesThis interrogater is amazing, props to him. Only thing I don't like is how often he says "Okay"
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this. exactly. tho i do think it's part of the ''mental exhaustion'' technique, sure af works
1 likeCould you imagine being this detectives child and you just got caught punching your sister???
1 likeEhhh, I feel like there was many times where these detectives couldāve done something more effective. Maybe effective generally but certainly not for this person.
0 likesGranted this guy is guilty AF, itās pretty telling that if someone is innocent, extracting a confession is their ultimate goal.
0 likesAnyway F this guy.
Just imagine a 3 hour job interview? No!
0 likesInterrogation for 3 hours? Go ahead to get to the truth!
Homie really said that itās been intense for him, like what about for the literal child who was killed before she probably even knew the concept of death
1 likethis one was harder to watch than the others...mostly because i remember the news at the time...the posters the searching and the video of her being walked away from the school ///
0 likesWhy would you be worried about how youāre perceived if you were innocent ? If youāre hungry and innocent youāre not going to care what type of study heās doing or how it makes you look .
1 likeOmg, ask the guy some questions already!!! He just keeps saying the same things over and over again.
0 likesHow in the hell did they both get the same sentence? I feel like we're missing a big part of the case here. Maybe its because your channel doesnt focus on it but I feel like that was weird
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Because she may as well of done it causing it to happen as well as not doing anything to stop it or turn herself in until well after the fact.
0 likesAlso, like how the getaway driver is charged with bank robbery despite never being in the bank
0 likesI am not one to generally support the death penalty, but.. this one right here. This one edges me that direction.
0 likesCan you imagine this detective giving the bird's and bee's talk to his children????
1 likeHe'll only be in his 50's when eligible for parole... how can it be right that the possibility of him getting out even exists.
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Harm to innocents and children should carry a life sentence
2 likes@ainhoa Agreed
0 likesI love that second guy that comes in. "Get rid of your fuckin security blanket." Ohhhhhhhhh yeeeaahhhhhhhhhh get em.
7 likesHonestly so infuriating when someone is proven guilty and they just go quiet and keep uselessly trying to maintain innocence. They have proof and they just keep saying "no that's wrong" it's so stupiddd
2 likesWait they got the same sentence? And he has the possibility of parole after 25 years? What the fuck? That is unreal.
0 likes@53:32 I don't usually agree with cops. But dam it she didn't deserve that, and to make him even a fraction of her pain is commendable!!!
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That's why I'm here Mike. And I'm having a good time.
0 likesWatching this makes me think that boiling in oil and drawing and quartering should be brought back.
0 likesI would love to be left alone in a room with this guy.š
0 likes"If I could turn back time" i can't be the only one hearing Cher?
3 likesThis detective makes me want to admit to something just to shut him up lol
2 likesPlease make more videos!!!
0 likesHis self pity is disgusting. Makes me boil with rage
1 likeThis detectives ability to keep talking is equivalent to juice WRLD free styling for hours
0 likesI love 37:00 "Get rid of your fucking security blanket" love this detective!" wish you had a Netflix series like mindhunter!
0 likesBest interrogator. This guys is awesome!!!
0 likesHell, I would confess just to get the investigator to shut the hell up.
1 likeWTF? What is the problem with HD surveillance cameras being OUT OF FOCUS? In 2009, I think cameras are able to focus better than a picture looking like it was from 1922.
0 likesHe get what coming once the other inmates found out what he did. Sick monster
0 likesJust hearing "ok" and "alright" endlessly would break anyone down.
1 likeFirst vid of yours I haven't been able to sit all the way through, only because hearing a monster who did something so terrible sniffle like a baby is unleashing some kind of feral anger in me.
29 likesAnyways, thank you for putting out so much good content.
This first investigator for Rafferty seems to be interrogating himself. Talks more than the suspect.
0 likesgod this video was something else, the nerve on that man
0 likesI have an 8 hear old baby boy and watching stuff like this is totally different compared to how I would have felt before having a child.
1 likeBring back medieval punishment methods for cases like these. On public display.
0 likesDrinking game. Take a shot every time the interrogator says, "ok?"
1 likethe school should be at fault also....the failed the chain of custody of getting Tori safely home.
0 likesthis will continue to happen until society is changed
0 likesMike wasn't as clever as Karla who gamed the system. She cut a plea deal & only later when detectives viewed a video did they realise that they had made a deal with the devil! She now walks the streets free!
0 likesDude just pouted through the interrogation
1 likeThis interrogation will be remembered by him as "the good old days." He ain't even hit the yards yet. He's gonna be a tasty treat.
0 likesWTF, that sketch looks nothing like a real persoā oh. Yeah, that does kind of look like her.
1 likeThe way the guy speaks its like he thinks heās in a movie
2 likesPOS human being, i can't believe they offered him coffee and food, i feel for the poor girl's parents
0 likesThat interrogator has the patience of a mountain, respect for that.
0 likesthat good cop bad cop thing was very cool. i got scared myself
0 likesYou always know that a Canadian is guilty if he can't eat his Tom Horton doughnut
0 likesSuddenly Im a supporter of the death penalty
0 likesHe is so pathetic. Stealing the life of a girl for his short gratification. What a pathetic man.
0 likesThat Canadian Cop is talented. He grilled him like a cheese sandwich at the end.l like the part when he says you didn't even touch your doghnut.
0 likes"You haven't even touched your donut" lmao
0 likesWhat a pitiful human being ...
0 likesHope he doesnāt last long in prison.
0 likesthat investigator verbally ravaged that guy. and rightfully so.
0 likesParole? In 25 years? How this is considered appropriate is beyond me.
0 likesI want to pledge guilty just to hear that ducking annoying detective reiterating the facts in a nice way. Shit. I did it.
0 likesThat sketch is literally Michael Meyers if he was a womanā¦Michelle Meyers
0 likesI hope they get him when he goes to prison...poor little girl.
0 likesIf a cop in Canada brings you Tim Horton's coffee...be worried okay?
0 likesThat skect doesnt look like the lady at all crazy how they found her
0 likesAre there no ads on the vid? If so., what a awesome refreshing creator.
0 likesah the best defence for any crime. "i didn't do it tho"
0 likesI have no idea why but I keep thinking the detective is nice guy Nicholas Cage from Con Air and the psycho Nick cage in Face off
1 likethe poor girl thought she was gonna see a puppy :/
1 likeThis is reminiscent of the Moors Murders in England.
0 likesThe lawyer at 56:29 speaks like an older Ben Shapiro
0 likesI find it strange that they got the same sentence. Obviously she should be punished, she played a huge part, but it seems like his punishment should be worse somehow
1 like"Sit there and shake, shit, puke, you don't know what to do..."
1 likeThis dude is a monster.
1 likeHow is lady accomplice not charged for murder . as far as I know she committed the murder and was the only one seen kidnapping the little girl.
0 likes'OK' Count: 3157
2 likes'Alright' Count: 1797
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1 likeThat...woman is just as guilty as the man.
0 likesits really distracting once you notice the investigator says "okay" every 10 seconds with the exact same inflection its getting on my nerves
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We can't help it bud, Southern Ontario does that to a man, okay?
0 likesi was wondering why they were suddenly tried in england then saw theres london ontario :P
0 likesHe should have ordered a steak dinner. Or at least bucket of KFC and a bag of double cheeseburgers, if they couldn't get their hands on a steak in a hurry. 'Cause this was his last opportunity to ever have a normal meal in his life. Then he also had a reason to vomit...
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Out of alll of the people who Iāve watched this channel cover this is one I hate the most ngl
0 likesThe sentence wasn't enough.
0 likesi always thought jcs is doing the voiceover... :(
0 likesSo you can make googly eyes at eachother.... Jesus š¤£
0 likesThe investigator is Paul Bernardo's #1 fan
0 likesNothing more Canadian than some Timmies in the interrogation room for the murder suspect
0 likesLadies and gentlemen we got em
1 likeJimmy Carr has gone a proper wrong un these days
0 likesGentle reminder to drill into your kids to not talk to strangers.
0 likesLook at ya. You haven't touched your donut
2 likesThe investigator is babbling for more than an hour and half ! Wtf
0 likesIt could be that itās possibly freezing I havenāt eaten since noon š seriously dude you rapped & killed a child a baby girl , gonna get messed up inside , they beat up child killers inside .... Whats your biggest concern .? regret... he said losing my life ..... sicko he didnāt even say killing an innocent child was his biggest concern or regret
0 likesTori would've been 21 today. Rest in peace.
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RIP
27 likesFacts.
6 likesOh my god. It could have been any of us. Just turned 22 three days ago.
130 likesGrim to think about.
15 likesshe'd be the same age as me... fuck.. I'm fucking sad now. her whole life and future ripped away from her.
82 likesRip
8 likes@S_Mai yeah I came onto this channel to chill and watch some criminals get there come upence not to feel down. Well if it makes you feel any better at least he won't be doing it to anyone else
20 likesThis made me so sad
8 likesThat's heartbreaking. RIP Baby Girl.
5 likes@Sm Ms Sweetie, it's not your fault for feeling suicidal, take care of yourself, you are precious too.
20 likespoured one out for her last night since she would be 21 and im not joking i did it since one of my family members died in a similar way and i felt bad for her. And yes rest in peace
12 likesF
1 like@Guaranagaucho accept she lived near him and went to the school he picked her from so it couldnāt have been any of usš¤Ø
2 likesā„ļøšļøā„ļø
2 likesOn a side note this monster, just got moved to a medium security prison... isn't that nice?
4 likesThis is the definition of tragic.
1 like@Pine Hawk Itās Canada so Iām not surprised. I like Canada, but they need a little Texas in them when it comes to this kind of shit.
5 likesHoly Fu*ck. Jesus. God rest her poor little soul. ššššš
2 likes@Sm Ms Suicidal feelings are serious. I hope you can see a counselor.
1 like@damion short Ooof. Imagine replying to this post with "facts". Embarrassing and vacant.
2 likes@Erik Larson nah just don't know what else to say lol imagine not wasting my time chief I'm busy dying like the rest of us.
1 like@alan caprock Careful not to cut yourself on that edge.
3 likesomg...
2 likesThank you.
Be at peace Tori.šš
@Guaranagaucho
2 likesHappy late birthday!ššššš
22... Enjoy your youth, and keep healthy. No one else will look after your body like you can.
Geez... I was 40 when you were born!š³š š š
@Sm Ms
5 likesI wish you all the best.
I am SO glad that you are alive today!!!
I'm 62, yikes... š¶š¬
Life is wonderful! ALL of it.
Look after your body, no one else will do that for you.
Good luck, may your Life be happy, healthy, fun!!!
Be safe!!!
@Tiffany you're 100% right!I lived in Niagara falls Canada for most of my life up until I was 25,and the self defense laws are pathetic! If someone even admits that a legal weapon is intended for self defense,its illegal.the only legal stun guns are those big stun batons.Spring assisted knives/balisongs/OTF's are illegal .Theyre handgun laws suck.They basically expect citizens to use 9-11 and a whistle to defend themselves.
2 likes@Abelis šŗš¦ ok Karen
1 like@Sm Ms youāre worth more and much stronger than you think bro. God bless and I wish you strength in your battle
3 likesRest In Peace Tori ā¤ļøā¹ļø
1 likeR. I.P. Precious, baby girl. š you didnāt deserve that š¤š
2 likesGod rest her soul
1 like@Sm Ms hope things are going better for you my friend. Life goes on on the roller coaster we call life.
1 likeOh she'd be of my age . RIP angel
1 likeThat's so sad
1 like@Guaranagaucho yeah for real. Don't talk to strangers has never been more real
0 likes25 years. Does that mean he may be released when he is 56? Because thatās wrong
0 likesRest in Paradie.
0 likesgodbless that child yes <3
0 likesThatās sad š„ŗ
1 likeŲ±ŲŁ ŁŲ§ Ų§ŁŁŁ ā¹
0 likesOur birthdays were close. I just turned 21 less than a week ago...too close to home.
3 likesAnd her family still suffers. Breaks my heart
1 like@Lastboss42 Iām Turing 22 this September same here
0 likesHappy heavenly Birthday sweetie Will never forget this one so heartbreaking for Woodstock/ Oxford county
1 likeI saw your profile picture and my brain registered as you were laughing at the fact. Obviously not true.
2 likesAnd her killer was moved to medium security prison so he can be rehabilitated for society
1 likeHoly shit she's the same age as me :'(( So sad.
1 likeI just got chills she the same age as me
1 likeIām 21 right now we was the same age š„ŗš
1 like@Pine Hawk good job it weren't my daughter.
1 like@Robert Wilson it'd be hard to get to this monster
0 likesShe was just a year older than my daughter. This really messed me up.
1 likeFor real, props to this detective. It must be fucking horrible to sit there and act like what the person did was no big deal; like you can empathize with a child rapist and murderer.
28 likesāAm I sitting across the desk from Paul Bernardo here?ā
72 likesWow. That was smart as hell. He painted the suspect into a corner with one of Canadaās most notorious rapists. And the payoff is to make this criminal see exactly what the rest of the world could think of him.
He is a monster
1 likeāYou havenāt touched your donutā is Canadian code for āyouāre fucked bud, everyone can tellā
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Oh my god yes you can here it in the cops tone!šš
44 likesCan confirm am canadian
32 likesMay have preferred a cruller eh?
8 likesIktsr!
0 likesš
0 likesTransformers āI ate the whole plateā
2 likesto be fair, Tim Horton's donuts are garbage
1 likeBahahahaha
1 like@Hogie82 bad to eat worse to regurgitate
1 likeThe Tim Hortons cups in Canadian police interrogations are iconic. Was a plain doughnut though...no one's rushing to eat that.
2 likes@MBZ yes they are.. but as good as I can see here these 2 cups seem to be McDonalds... but the guy is undoubtedly f****d
0 likes@The Morning Star older timmies cups no?
1 like@william crawley yes
2 likeshe even sounded more canadian when he said that
0 likes"You're pure evil, bud" was so Canadian sounding lol
2 likes@B B can confirm as a Canadian we do use bud/buds quite often
2 likes@william crawley haha oh I know I'm Canadian too and had to laugh at that part it was just so typical I loved it
1 like@B B lmao for real though, I'ma Newfie so we don't use it as often, but everytime I go to Ontario or Alberta it's wild hahaha
2 likes@william crawley thats so funny! I'm from Berta its very very common lol
2 likes@B B hahaha omg that is ironic as heck, heading back to GP next month and my lingo is gonna change tremendously in such a short period of time,
0 likes@Hogie82, especially honey cruellers.
0 likesAn innocent man would have devoured that donut.
1 like@B B I'm hearing Terrance and Phillip: "You are so fucked, buddaay!"
1 like@4bibimimi lol that's what I was imagining!!
0 likesāYouāre fucked, bud.ā Is also super Canadian sounding lol
0 likesAs a kid growing up in that time in Canada I remember so clearly having stranger danger shoved down our throats because of this case. The details of her kidnapping helped unearth some memories. I didnāt remember her name because no adult would go further beyond saying a girl was kidnapped and never came home. Knowing the details here, I can understand why. I remember my friends and I, as kids, talking about it and what weād do if someone promised to show us a bunch of puppies and what if they actually had puppies. I remember actively avoiding petting dogs at the park and being afraid of being near parked cars with open doors.
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I grew up in Ontario around the same time as well and I remember in school they were big on showing us all these stranger danger videos lol I dunno if it was all because of Tori, because there were other pretty famous cases at the time (like the boy in Alberta who was also kidnapped and killed) but yeah it's funny how it works. I remember one of the videos was a girl being approached by a guy with a dog so that maybe that was inspired by Tori. I think it's good they at least taught us this stuff because street smarts really are so important
9 likesGood. I made my son and daughter paranoid, too.āš
1 like@Kat Tsun lmao that's not what's happening. It's about having street smarts and not just trusting the word of anybody who walks up to you. Which is what every kid should be learning
2 likes@Gabriel Abato Genuine cope. That's literally what you're doing rn.
4 likesIn Japan a man who asks if you want to see puppies is asking you if you want to see puppies. He's an uncle and he's harmless because everyone knows who he is, he's the guy who tends to the old family shrine down the street every day for as long as anyone can remember, he's like 90 years old, and he lived through the American bombing.
In Canada they're an accomplice to a murder-rapist? Wild.
You don't need street smarts in a safe society, because the streets are as safe as your own home in a safe society. The idea that the streets are dangerous only comes out when society at large has failed, either because it's too diverse (thus, dangerous, because diversity incites criminality due to differences in opinions, social structures, cultural-economic understandings, and genetics) or it's too poorly policed, or whatever.
Canada has a murder rate four times higher than that of Japan's, and a rape rate 2/3rd's greater, and probably edges towards the younger end of that scale because Anglophone countries seem to be really child rapey for whatever reason. It's one of the nicer Anglophone countries, too, and it's still quite dangerous. It's hardly Australia or the United States in terms of rape or violent crime.
So children in Japan as young as seven or eight can generally walk home from school, go to the store, and ride the subway, unless American soldiers are around, in which case they are genuinely in danger of being kidnapped and raped by a few Marines or sailors, but even that seems to happen less than the rape-murders in Canada lol.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/10/why-japanese-kids-can-walk-to-school-alone/408475/
It's not a big secret, either. Japan is just better at policing, better at punishing criminals, and more socially (and ethnically/genetically) homogeneous than Canada. Canada is a fairly patchworky, heterogeneous place with a lot of intermingling ethnic groups from all the world in cities like Ontario and Toronto and Vancouver, which makes them unsafe by nature.
The sort of behavior that's common in Tokyo, like six or seven years olds walking home from school every day by themselves a few miles or so, would get you kidnapped and rape-murdered in Ontario or Toronto lol.
Anglo countries should take a page from Japan or Singapore and divest themselves of a lot of the trash ideology stuff that makes their societies dangerous. They won't, and it's a pipe dream (Australia is trying, bless their hearts), but it would be a lot better than what Canadians, Australians, Americans, and Britishers have to deal with at the moment.
@Kat Tsun I'm wearing a Japanese sweatshirt rn you don't need to convince me Japan is cool
2 likes@Gabriel Abato Fair.
1 likeI'm just saying that it's safer for kids to walk around Japan, Korea, or Germany than in most Anglo countries I guess.
@Kat Tsun You make a Very Compelling point and it seems very thought Out and Detailed. Too bad i cant read
2 likes@Kat Tsun Diversity doesnāt lead to failed societies. The contention that homogenous populations commit less crime isnāt backed up by any real evidence. Sweden and Norway are some of the most homogeneous countries in the world with some of the highest rape rates in the western world. Japanās postwar cultural shift and regulation on weapons are more likely the cause of low crime in the country. Also the notion that Japanese children should be scared that American soldiers are going to rape them is absolutely absurd.
2 likes@Bennett Mitchell Sweden has a very liberal definition of rape that expands the number counted, so you're comparing apples to oranges, and it mostly happens in diverse cities like Malmo anyway.
0 likesDiversity doesn't lead to failed societies, it just leads to more violence without strong enforcement of borders and segregation of the disparate groups. This is sort of the point behind NECSI modeling of violence in Yugoslavia and Switzerland.
@Kat Tsun In the US, the majority of crime occurs between people of the same ethnicity which really goes against your claim. I donāt know if you live in the US or a country with immense diversity like it, but tension between different groups that goes far enough to create crime isnāt that strong. Crime in the US (and in the rest of the world) is largely an effect from poverty in certain areas, not diversity.
2 likes@Bennett Mitchell US Census Bureau definitions don't matter in this regard?
1 likePeople are different based on a variety of factors, genetics being predominant in adulthood in general, and heterogeneous societies full of diverse cultures, economic systems, and differing gene pools will be more violent than ones that are broadly speaking the same language, coming from the same culture, and related to each other for thousands of years of interbreeding and mingling.
Crime in the US is related to diversity because poverty is related to diversity. Diverse societies are built like India and other massively disparate empires: on functional caste systems with people at the top and the bottom. America is a racialist caste society and was founded by slaveowners explicitly so the slaveowners could dodge taxes being used to pay for their dumb frontier war, so it's not surprising that the slave system continues in ever more diluted forms.
America's caste system is markedly more racist than most societies because it tends to judge based on skin color alone though, which is something that Americans think is universal because they have no real knowledge of the world. For the most part this is fairly inaccurate since it fails to grasp that there are wide, immense differences in "skin color" (just ask how much cultural relevance a Milanese gentleman of 1600 has to a Sapmi reindeer herder at the same era, or modern Yoruba to Igbo or various neighboring Bantus to Somalis, for modern times) that are fairly relevant.
Read Azar Gat's Nations smh.
The US is by far the most violent "Western" country, Japan is by far the least, and everyone else is somewhere in between. In the future I suspect the US will end up similar to Brazil or Argentina: i.e. a racial apartheid state held together by the glue of a broadly Caucasian and Asiatic ruling class against a mass of Hispanic or African-American lower castes and some Caucasian middle managers.
Generally speaking, economic distance alone isn't adequate to do crime. It requires a combination of cultural-linguistic and genetic distance that simply doesn't exist in places like Korea or Japan, but certainly exists in the United States, and whatever bizarre admixtures of Bantustan tribals collected from various Malian and proto-Nigerian warlords that constitute "African-American" are. That sort of cultural distance kind of sort of still exists in European societies, but they've been tempered by recent, ephemeral events to not fight each other. At least the Western ones have.
Long term prediction is that Western Europe will probably be violent again in a century or two since it's always been fairly violent between each other though. That's assuming there's no major genetic shifts in the ruling classes I suppose, since it's entirely possible they may be replaced by a homogeneous ruling elite that unites the disparate peoples under an iron fist, like the Arabs did in North Africa a thousand years ago.
@Bennett Mitchell It really is not about poverty. The poorest areas in the US are still above world average, but the crime rates are some of the highest in the world. You might argue that it is a consequence of the collapse of social structure in ex-slave groups like US blacks, Haitians, Jamaicans, etc.
0 likesAs for the negative effects of diversity on social trust, it is a generally accepted finding from Robert Putnam.
@Kat Tsun you make some solid points but do elaborate on the āintermingled ethnic groupsā and how itās unsafe by nature
0 likes@Kat Tsun oop disregard my other comment, I got that vibe from you but I didnāt want to assumeš
0 likes@WubbleBubble Ball People fight over things, people have different languages, different customs, etc. and it's harder for people who are unrelated on all levels (genes, economics, nationality, language, culture) to communicate accurately.
0 likesYou're more likely to piss someone off and start a fight to put it bluntly.
Sounds like you had good parents......it's difficult as a parent to know how much warning to give your child...don't want to scare them but on the other hand you do want to scare them.....hope you know what I mean.....safety for your child is # 1
0 likesThis detective is a legend, this isn't the first sicko he's interrogated. I'm glad he works in my country, getting these psychos off the streets.
34 likesshots everytime he says "okay"
0 likesListened to this while ironing and by the 30th minute now I'm positively affirmed "I'm not a monster. I made mistakes. I gotta deal with it and move on. I can't turn back time. Nobody can decide my destiny but myself. My credibility is all I have left"
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Ha. I love your comment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These interviews have a way of making you self reflect š¤£ššā I love it
11 likesThese are the basics of Buddhism as well :)
6 likes@Gabor Orosz yep! š
2 likesright LMAO
0 likesI canāt even begin to imagine the utter terror, pain, and loneliness that innocent little girl must have experienced. So sickening & devastating that her life ended with those as her final moments...what absolute fucking monsters.
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I was deeply disturbed by this as well. When youāre an empathetic individual like myself and like you seem to be itās hard not to place yourself in that little girls shoes. Both of these assholes are monsters they will get their comeuppance
24 likesWhat bothers me is that she likely saw the woman and felt like she could be trusted. To be given to this monster. How awful.
13 likes@Krist H just btw, the woman is just as big of a monster. The woman is the one that killed the little girl. I donāt mean metaphorically, the woman is the one who hit the girl in the head with the hammer.
1 likeWhat makes it even more horrifying is that after all the pain, fear, and trauma she endured, there was no reprieve. No relief or hope that it was over. The very last thing this little girl saw on Earth was the face of her rapist and murderer. He's a monster and yet he still has the nerve to act like the victim? Disgusting.
6 likesRight, and not only is the death penalty justice, but it acts as a deterrent, even to those who have already committed the crime. If this guy had any way of avoiding death he wouldāve because he cares about himself. As is, this guy had nothing to squirm about. Three meals a day a place to live free healthcare, likely his own cell and segregated because even prisoners or more just then liberals out here on the street that are protecting these evil people. In jail they Will serve justice to people like this guy. Even people who have murdered themselves.
1 likePretty interesting to see detective Jim Smith playing the ābad copā role this time around compared to the Russ Williams interrogation.
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Oh snap I didn't realize that was him
3 likesI donāt think that was him
2 likesMrNoSleep OSRS aw hell yeah daddy, love you
1 like@MrNoSleep OSRS it is bro!
0 likes@MrNoSleep OSRS yup, same guy
0 likes@MrNoSleep OSRS love your vids bro:)
0 likesSmith was playing good cop the entire time, the worst thing he did was promise food that he didn't deliver on. The lead investigator was the one grilling the fuck out of him at the halfway mark and at the end.
0 likesWhat an evil woman to lure that little girl to her violent death š I will never understand.
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She probably did it for drugs
71 likes@ang yeah. As a recovering addict with a 12 yr addiction and 6 yr clean time...i can say that addiction makes you do things you wouldnt ever do under a normally functioning brain. Not that what these people did was okay...they need to be held accountable...
96 likesMonster
5 likes@Unohoo that's an amazing accomplishment!
19 likes@Unohoo Congrats on being clean! You're doing a great job.
19 likesUnohoo good for you keep preaching bro
3 likes@ang im sorry but fuck that noise. Ive been addicted to drugs too but even at my lowest point i wouldnt help someone kidnap, rape, and murder a child. Id kill myself before i did something so evil. Being remorseful doesnt give that child her life back.
40 likesThis wasn't just addiction, this was an addict under the control of a psychopath. We would all like to think we'd be stronger than that, but every neurotypical person can be broken, addiction simply makes it easier.
17 likesMomsBiscuits exactly my point. Such a cop out šš¤·š¼āāļø
6 likesYea, that was starting to appear overlooked in the comment section. Thank you
5 likesWhat an evil man too...
1 like@RIPzzzzzzz exactly
1 like@ang still tho .. I wouldn't do it ... I know sickness from drugs .. and I won't even steal from my mother ...
3 likeskristova Palenkova liar
0 likesat the very least she had remorse :'(
5 likes@kristova Palenkova it's about life experience and perspective....drugs and mental problems can help a brain justify ANY action.
0 likes@RIPzzzzzzz 100% agree I've been there and thought of some low down stuff .. that was never a thought for a bag of dope no I dont think so. There is something seriously wrong with her also mentally I will agree to that. Thank God druga don't do this to everyone because there would be about half a million kids taken daily
4 likesYeah I don't understand that too the only thing I can think of is fear or a aim to please seek approval accepted feel needed all the above. Just sick just pure evil. Just like the single women that bring these men into their homes around their young children and they end up molesting them and the women don't say anything because God forbid they don't have a man.
2 likes@Unohoo congratulations on your 6 years prayers to continue success. By the grace of God I've never done drugs so I can't possibly imagine the decision one makes you get drugs but how desperate do you have to be to lure a little sweet baby girl into a car so she can't get raped and brutally murdered. That goes far beyond prostitution or theft.
1 like@A. B.D. agreed
0 likesUnohoo you are doing great! Im proud of you! Please stay clean <3
0 likes@RIPzzzzzzz You obv never tried heroin.
2 likes@Netizen exactly. She could have been easily manipulated into doing almost anything. He could have told her something like 'help me lure this girl because I'm going to ransom her back to her parents so we can get heroin money'. As an addict she would be eager to believe anything he told her as long as it ended in her getting a fix. She is obviously still responsible for her actions and her addiction isn't an excuse as much as it is an explanation.
0 likesShe didn't deserve the same sentencing as him
0 likesBA sorry but there is different kinda drugs out there and not all drugs give the exact affect. I was using drugs too and would never do that in any way. But there is some people out there would do just to get some more. Nobody is like you
0 likes@Cool Guy no excuse tho. still evil
1 like@Unohoo You always get to choose, addicted or not, you should be accountable for. And, of course, not every drug addict do that, so, yes, she is evil.
1 likeHe acts like a petulant child the WHOLE time. Disgusting.
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He's a textbook psychopath. The whole thing of getting caught was just a giant inconvenience to him.
20 likesHarley Q Monroe Grrr, tiger
0 likes@The Galactic Emperor you got me there
1 like@Lots of Hair but No Money Exactly hes the victim in his mindš”
0 likesWhen He said he talked to his lawyer prior to this...thats when i understood why he was behaving the way he was
0 likesHeās stuck at age 11.
0 likesThe part that broke my heart, well everything did but.. it first broke when they said she returned to her class to get something she forgot for her mom. Wow such an innocent and sweet thing then the devil and his reject shows up and takes her and does the most horrific things possible.. wow
131 likesRIP beautiful angel.
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It made me cry. This poor baby.
1 likeJCS is great. Kay?
0 likesTheir quality is top notch. Kay?
You should probably subscribe. Kay?
One of the best channels on YouTube. Kay?
I want Jim to narrate my whole life in real time, like "right now our subject is making a decision outside his usual pattern and what he thinks is a moment of spontaneity is actually the first manifestation of him giving in to psychological pressure he had previously been able to control" so I can be like nope definitely not smoking meth "just once" lol
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Captain Falcon Fvcks Itās impossible to not read this in his voice.
16 likesLuxieto Chetta Yep, I tried meth once. Didnāt care for it.
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1 likeThat was a wild ride reading that comment to the end lol
4 likesVirtual JCS is in the pipeline
0 likesExtreme grimness
0 likesThe amount of times that detective said he couldnt turn back time makes me think he can and he's just trying to convince us otherwise...
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If Cher finds out his life would be in jeopardy.
11 likes@Heavy Weights Light Feels I was thinking of Cher every time he said it. š
3 likesāYour a funny man ā
590 likesDetective: ā youāre a cold blood killer ā
I felt that
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22 likes@Rome Fr he misspelled it the first time and correct the next lmao
3 likesBarbie Kibassa *You're
0 likesHope he's having a bad time in prison.
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In prison they have a saying for these people and they usually get beat up
1 likeI started crying when the detective said Tori was excited to see her new bedroom. Bless her heart. So scary how someone can be so cold.
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Hurt people hurt people.
0 likes.
I know. That broke my heart.
0 likesFeed it into a wood chipper feet first.
1 likeThe way this dude cries is sick, he's not the one that lost his life.
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Technically he's losing his life too. Sick situation. The girl has the worst end of the stick admittedly as she was innocent. But this guy. Idk what im trying to say. This should have all never happened. I fucking hate this crap
29 likesFunny how when Jim asks "what are you afraid of losing?" And he says "My life!" He wasn't concerned about Tori's and she had lots of life ahead of her. He already lived 20 more than her.
55 likes@mon yea obviously a sicko. I'm impressed by these interogaters. I wanna be a investigator or something like this one day.
8 likessab Yeh, I suspect his hubris caused him to believe he was losing his life in an analogous manner - ie. by life in prison or death penalty - I donāt agree or justify it, but that may well be what he believed in his own mind.
2 likesWell even when he gets out of prison, the justice becomes social
0 likes@Brabham Freaman big words lol.
1 like@Michael Sohn hes not gonna get out.
2 likes@hiyajumpkick I would love to also! Either that or a judge.
0 likes@Gemini Goddess šÆšÆšÆ
0 likesThink heās actually just crying cause he physically feels awful and sorry for himself. He was detoxing from oxy at the time of the interview
1 like"okay?" "all right?" "right?"
0 likesYou haven't touched your donut š
0 likesHim sniffing every two seconds is pissing me off. Like what are YOU crying for?!? You werenāt crying when you hurt that baby
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Because he's a little bish who knows his pathetic life is over and he's gonna end up with Bubba for a cellmate.
8 likes@Tyler Hunter most likely when anyone finds out why he is in, he is probably dead. Walking out of "rehab" with x color folder, someone watched it on the news...etc.
7 likesOnly 27 states have the death penalty officially, but all 50 have it unofficially.
@beastman canāt wait :)
1 like@Luca I hope Steven Sandison finds him. (If you donāt know him, look him up) Youāll 100% agree with me š
1 like@Light Show Well this was in Canada..
0 likes@beastman PERIODDDD
0 likesHate when people say this. Obviously heās crying because heās in distress or heās sorry he got caught and afraid for the future. When you got caught stealing from the cookie jar you still cried when your mama confronted you š¤Ø but stay saying the same overused phrase
2 likesbeastman i... didnt reply to you š
1 like@Lemoncholy Oh. I only got a notification for your message and not the othersā¦fuck youtube, seriously. Well I still believe what I said, but I hate youtube and its notification system
0 likesHoly rabbit hole, Batman! I started with Jodi Arias and two days later ended up here. FBI-I'm not planning anything. These videos are just super interesting.
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SAME
14 likesSame fok š
6 likesSame. As good or even better than some of the true crime tv shows Iāve seen.
7 likesSame. My coworker introduced this channel to me last week, and Iāve been hooked since
8 likesSameššš
2 likesš¤£š¤£
2 likesSigh š thank God I'm not the only one feeling the same
5 likes@5nanometers I did the same to my coworker too.
4 likesAwww to tute
2 likesI'm the same. They start to recommend these types of videos on these vile pieces of sh##
3 likesThey all justify their actions with such selfishness. Itās insane that anyone actually thinks that way but they do apparently.
6 likesSame šš
2 likesSame here!
2 likes@Wendy A Iām glad Iām not alone!
1 likeRight!
2 likesYou're not the only one! I find murder fascinating, not because I want to do it, but just to see how it completely changes a person, what their attitude is like, what insane stories they will spin. It reminds me of lord voldy and Dumbledore's description of how murder completely and irrevocably changes someone, how Voldy split his soul to the point he couldn't feel anything, to the point that he wasn't able to forsee someone sacrificing themselves because of the love they had for another to save them. These murderers are so irrevocably damaged by what they have done, there just isn't any humanity left in them, they turn into something else, something sub-human. Its disgusting, but still fascinating.
3 likesAlso, I have such bad anxiety that I pre-pre-plan everything, so i also find it fascinating that people make rash decisions without first thinking out every possible scenario to ensure their actions are hidden... like...how?! How do you just decide to murder someone with no plan for after? I can't even go to a family gathering without preparing for at least a week in advance what I'm going to say, who I'm going to talk to, what I'm going to do with my body language, what I'm going to wear, etc...
Lol
2 likessaaaaaaaaaaaame
2 likesSame
1 likeI can't stop
1 likeSAME š
2 likesThereās about a hundred other people in the same predicament! (Ha! Welcome to the Twilight Zone, care for another?) (spooky music)
2 likesDude, I thought, 2 hours for a video? I'll give it 5 minutes. And like you, here I am.
2 likesSame
1 likeSame here
1 likeWhat you going on about?? FBI is regular member of this channel viewership šš
3 likes@Coach Hines yea i know. Still people. How awkward for FBI
2 likes@Coach Hines š
1 likeAll the "Chriss Watts" ones are the best
2 likesSame
2 likesSame. Confessions, true crime vids, court trials. All the day long in the background while I'm working š
1 likeGirl I'm running out of episodes
1 likeSame lol
2 likesLol right
3 likesSame š
2 likesSame!! I just turned my Mom onto today as well! Very interesting stuff!
2 likesFor some reason, I could stomach the Jodi Arias case, even with the photos for God's sake. But I hear introduction in this video and hear what occurred and I feel... that I can't. Paused and just comment this right here. I know what it is. It is the fact that the child could not and can't do much. That I know people like this one exist. That there are probably more of them that I want to acknowledge. That it makes me as a woman scared, scared to think about ever having children. And these cases actually scare me. I don't want to see the abuse and violence in the world... it is killing everyhing good.
2 likesSame
2 likesI fell down the rabbit hole too but it was a series court preceding for murder
1 likeI feel it I feel it, honestly I watch these to try and understand the psychological aspects of a guilty person and when to spot them. yanno? Itās honestly really interesting
0 likesI've seen all of his videos at least 3 times
1 likeLove this
1 likeLMAOOO meee i watched like 5 of these
1 likePolice says too much āokayā
0 likesThe sad thing is if he could actually go back and redo things, he would've just hired a different partner.
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Wasn't it the girl? And she lied on him?
1 like@Evalation I looked it up the first time I watched this and I thought thats what happened maybe I'm thinking of a different case.
1 likeCorrect! He has regrets. The murder is definitely not one of them
16 likesActually the woman partner admitted that she was actually the one who killed the kid.
15 likes@Mikcha212 that's what I thought
1 likeJohn D. Rockefeller I used to think the same thing! Then I met someone who does composite sketches . They know how to ask the right questions and talk you through it. Theyāre pretty amazing! And the techniques they use are awesome.
3 likesWow... i just read that 7 years into her sentence, she was being transferred from a max security prison to an Aboriginal healing lodge... wtf is that all aboot! (Little pun inserted)!
5 likesWatching this I realize I could not be an interrogator. I could keep up the conversation for 15-20 min max before losing my cool. This guy is top notch
40 likesI love how brutal detective Jim Smyth is being here. Such a contrast from his friendly tone in the Russell Williams interrogation. Heās amazing.
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I heard him being introduced but I had to skip back because it sounds like two completely different people. The good-nature Tim Hortons coffee is the only thing that ties together the two investigations.
2 likesOneBagTravel Itās the same detective. Jim Smyth is being the ābad copā in this interrogation. Hereās a line from an article about the Rafferty investigation: āAfter two "good cops" offer Rafferty the promise of a sympathetic ear, the bad cop bursts in: Ontario Provincial Police Det. Staff Sgt. Jim Smyth, who would later garner national headlines for successfully extracting a confession from sex killer Russell Williams.ā https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/michael-rafferty-interrogation-video-released-1.1202581
0 likesMan this guy is a fantastic narrator, storyteller and filmmaker. Love this channel and all your hard work! Keep up the great content. Thank you
29 likesWhen Jim walked in......
0 likesThat sketch was incredibly accurate. If thatās from the footage we saw of the high school camera, that sketch artist needs a bonus and a half
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Whatās the time stamp? I usually listen to these while Iām doing something else.
0 likesRenn Bear 2:50
0 likesDarthFastball11 probably eyewitness accounts too, maybe
0 likesHe was so afraid of what would happen to his life, but he did not give a fuck about that poor child that must have felt that a million times worse.
0 likesit is insane that these detectives can sit in a room with a man who sexually assaulted and killed an 8 y/o girl and keep their composure. i would not have the will power not to beat him to a pulp.
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Exactly .. I would never be a detective .. I would be fired from day one only š
11 likesim sure they dealt with worse
1 likeI'm only 10 mins in but the detective goes "it's ok it can happen to anyone you sit there watching your child videos for hours and hours everyday, of course you wanna go try for yourself, can happen to the best of us, I get it" ššš
10 likes@Irina Munteanu donāt worry!! heās lying. heās trying to appear more understanding to the suspect so the suspect will let his guard down or slip up and admit to something to get the confession going. heās probably seething under the skin.
10 likes@wraith i know lol it ain't my first time round the block. It's still something I could not do for a living but props to the guy
1 like@Irina Munteanu he probably has a bit of a drinking problem and insomnia. I personally knew an officer who worked child crimes for years. Everything from finding CP on a laptop to cases like the one in this video. I canāt thank guys like that enough who put these monsters behind bars and best case scenario those monsters get taken care of in prison.
1 likeI think some of them must be just as psychopathic, but they have enough of a moral code or self control to refrain from evil acts.
6 likesI think the need for justice for Tori and protection for other children would be a massive motivation to interview and help convict these sick sick monsters!
3 likesYep these detectives have amazing composure. I couldnāt do that
0 likesSameee
0 likesThat's why not everyone can do this job. Some ppl would beat him up and some ppl know that saying calm will put im in prison
0 likesWe all know what happens to people like him in jailā¦why would they bother getting their hands dirty when karma will find him in prison?
0 likes@AthanaSia Skreta they have a job to do and they would use the video as proof in court. Even though they know what will happen they just wanna solidify the case and it looks good on your record getting someone to confess to rape and murder.
1 likeI used to be a social worker in a male prison. Sitting listening to a dude give explicit details of how he cut off a womanās nipples, wrapped her in barbed wire and kept her in his trunk. You stay in work mode to get to the bottom of it.
0 likes@Caroline Maybe yes you have toā¦ you must have a solid stomach to be able to sit there, listen and remain calm. You are brave my friend. At the end of the day is about bringing justice to the victims isnāt it?
0 likesTheir patience threshold is unreal.
1 likeA mental fortitude is something that is built over many years, as such as is the case with developing resilience to life's difficulties. Strength is built from weakness so hopefully, you'll get stronger over time.
1 likeAfter you saw it often enough i think it stops. It wont touch you any more.
0 likesI had to fast forward... the detective was breaking me down and I didnāt have shit to do with the murder š
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I feel this
58 likesnow thats out of the question bud, we have the evidence
234 likes@J D i have no issues with that
12 likesSame!
0 likesi almost confessed myself
102 likesš¤£š¤£š¤£
6 likesNowa, bud, you'reuh, not Paul Bernardo, ya' know? You're not givin' me a hard uh, time, ya know.
16 likesSomething the guilty would say š¤
4 likesi hope you didn't accidentally turned yourself in
4 likes"Im going to say okay at the end of every sentence, okay? Im not doing it on purpose, okay. But if youre okay with me saying okay just sniff, okay?"
41 likesI'm not mad at ya, you don't make angry cause I seen this stuff all the time kay? We just need to get this of your chest kay? It's outta your hands now kay?
9 likes"Wouldya turn back the hands of time Mike?"
6 likes"Would you go Mike?
Do things a little different there, uh, Mike?"
"Would you do things over, Mike?"
Hahahahaha same here
0 likesBwahahaha... Omg I feel it too.... Great comment
0 likesHe's good.
0 likesš
1 likesure, sure, what im trying to find out is if you're just some guy from youtube or a cold blooded murderer. I believe you are just a regular folf, please dont prove me wrong, tell me the truth
2 likesThat's pretty funny. He was really annoying to listen to. By design I guess
3 likesWe stan this detective
1 likešššš
0 likesJust remember, your credibility is all you have left at this point, okay?
2 likesš¹š¹š¹
0 likesI was getting bored.. āalright? Okay?ā And him sniffling was disturbing.
0 likesHope you don't have Internet history like that dude. If you do then I'd worry too but as others said, nothing to fear if you don't have anything to hide. But yeah the detective is great at his job and knows what he's talking aboot
1 like@J D my dad owns a mercedes and he loves that baby
1 likeHe's very good at talking in a convincing way, but he really didn't give the guy any pauses to have an ability to reply..
1 likeWere past that...
0 likesLOL!
0 likesyou're not a monster youngflyjuly
1 likeI was even ready to confess to a crime ffs. Fast forward until the second detective comes in!!
0 likesOR DID YOU?
0 likeswhat did all you weirdos want to confess to?? did you murder someone? tf is with the guilt
0 likesExactly my anxiety levels went šššš¤øš¤øš¤øšš
1 likeCocaine is Heluva drug
0 likesSame šš
0 likesI think my 6 yr old took lessons from him.. cause she blabs for hours and im beat by the end.. ill cave to anything...
2 likes@Milan Smidt lmfao
0 likeshahaha I've been binging on these thigns and I found myself confessing to all kinds of shit i haven't done
0 likesor did you ?
0 likesqueue vsauce face
I just wanna know what the HELLLLLL was that freakin Extra gum MOVIE commercial before the video?!
0 likes"Enjoy the rest of your life. This is the kind of room you're gonna be spending it in."
144 likesComplete poetry.
It never fails me to amaze me how and why justifies these animals to do what they did
223 likesA child....for sexual gradification
Then to murder said child
Then they cry over being caught?!
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People are much more egocentric than you want to think, assuming you are of healthy mind. Lots of people get sick, mentally, through a myriad of options (genetically, upbringing, substance abuse, psychosis, disorders, (the list is very long and since the beginning of psychology has been discussed)).
6 likesThen when confronted, the nearest reality is the one of their own fate, and feel remorse for their own fate. There are so many different things going on in his head which you can label: confirming to the structure ('my lawyer said to me to shut up...'), cognitive dissonance, lack of empathy, but also the sense of guilt, as the interrogator also stated; his intestines were almost making him puke. Remember, the man was broken down mentally and crying is a natural way of relieving that. You can be the baddest boy in the world, but if you get worked on like that, you cry.
But yes, this is a case where we are not obliged to feel empathy for this 'man' and i'm also not asking for that.
But it doesn't amaze me that he cries,
as much as we would want him not to be; he still is a human.
@Verox excellent observation, but you've also got to consider the actions of a narcissist. Most people could not torture, rape and kill an 8 year old child. The ones that would are no doubt narcissists. I believe he's crying because he doesn't know what's going to happen to him, he got caught. Nothing about this tape shows the least bit of remorse for that poor girl. I'm a 28 year old man myself, if I were to accidentally hit a child while driving my car and killed them, I would be crying like a fucking baby because even though it wasn't my fault, I took a life. It would have nothing to do with my future repercussions. I don't see that in him at all.
8 likesBit of a ramble, but this video has got me particularly disturbed.
That's how psychopaths roll.
0 likes@Verox the brutality is what I can't wrap my mind around... š
0 likesand Canada has no death penalty .. . . . . .
0 likesDoes this investigator ever stop talking
2 likes*The death sentence*
0 likesWho needs netflix when you have this.
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I know, right? Script by Vince Gilligan! Give this channel an Emmy.
22 likesYes its very good isnt it? High quality, intelligent and interesting stuff.
14 likesNetflix needs to do a deal with this guy
15 likesMe, after watching all these videos in 2 days...
11 likes@deantjewie I did too and I had to take breaks with with how disturbing the content is
5 likes@deantjewie The end when they add that he was found guilty is such a relief
2 likes@Lee snyder except the casey Anthony video
4 likesRight?
1 likeIām glad Iām not the only one. Currently binge watching these and wondering if I should be concerned that Iām doing so š
4 likes@emery jones no Netflix would ruin it
3 likesF.B.I. They jus gotta give him 100% creative control
0 likesI much prefer fiction....
1 likethis is definitely more entertaining
0 likesFreaking yes <3
0 likesBrilliant commentš¤
0 likes@Angel La Canfora right!
1 like@Sasha wat
0 likesHe's such an actor. Look at him, damn he's good, cause he's acting like he's sick, like he's prostrated, like he's innocent, like he's a victim, yet whenever he talks, he's sarcastic, his voice doesn't tremble, and he's sure of his innocence, without really claiming it. He acts like he's in a movie, like he's the hero wrongly accused. I don't think he's really listening to the officer at first. He's so scary, that officer is really good.
252 likesEdit: he's literally acting like a rebel teen, he thinks if he doesn't answer, he might get out, he's like "I'm not going to talk to you" like a little kid
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I donāt think heās acting. I think heās got the mind of a kid. He hates he got caught and now heās not gonna deal with the authority that got him. Like a kid whose parents are trying to punish them.
19 likesThis dude was dopesick during the entire interview, which, good.
4 likesusually not talking to the police is the best thing you can do. Sadly it can cause a criminal to get on the streets and talking also can and has gotten innocent people into jail.
2 likesThat girl admitted to killing the child tho
3 likesI know exactly how this is going to sound but he is every gay millennial I have ever met.
0 likesNo.. he is acting like he is guilty.
1 likei could never be a detective or police... i woulda just smacked him
1 likeThis is what made this video so hard to watch emotionally... There's something missing in that guy's head where feelings should be. He was just acting, and acting badly...
0 likesYou know, in some medieval castles there is a gated hole that they just drop prisoners in, sometimes too narrow to do anything but stand up and lay down, and if youāre extra unlucky the castle waste gets down there. They throw you down there and forget about you. The only people you see are the ones that toss you in that hole. This man deserves nothing less than that
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Called an oubliette
40 likesYet, he will stay in a prison that has electricity, heating, plumbing, clean water, he will be fed, and all that at the expense of the government and their tax payers! Yay, isn't the world just wonderful...
45 likes@Mofo McAssy yer her majesties Hilton
1 like@Victor Jimenez His mother (who was suffering from cancer at the time) apparently kept paying large sums of money to the prisoners he was in there with to keep them from beating the shit out of him.
17 likesShe's dead now, though, so hopefully he's now getting the harsh treatment he deserves.
In some of those oubliettes the walls and floor would be grated, meaning there would be tiny spiked barbs implanted in the walls and floors, making it a permanent state of torture just standing. It would be incredibly painful to lie down or even lean against a wall...Sometimes I think that we need to bring some of those old practices back when we have to deal with people like these
12 likesYou watch medieval jail videos? I swear I've heard this somewhere
0 likes@Sunsher I watch history videos a bunch
0 likesWho the hell was watching her?
0 likesIf I ever get killed, I want this guy to interrogate my killer.
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Same. I want them to play the tape at my funeral. I bet half my family walks out after 20 minutes of this lol
88 likes@Jenna Mattern š¤£š¤£
2 likesabhahahah loool
2 likes@Jenna Mattern becarefull not to be the criminal
7 likesNothing like positive thinking...
3 likesdude i would interrogate the same way. so i defo trust this interrogator with my death investigation
2 likesThis can be arranged
2 likesI hope my family taking notes
1 likeBold thing to say as american... sooner than you might think maybe?
0 likeswhat if the killer is your mom?
1 like@Brett Nickel Is mom if your killer what the
2 likes@Madame Feast mom killed if the is what?
1 likeThis psychological analyst is brilliant! Honestly, him alone and his mental chess makes me want to dive head first into this field.
2 likesThis guy is so good if I got ran over heāll make the car confess
2 likesthen i want juan
0 likesPeter let the children come to me for the kingdom of heaven belongs to creatures such as theses, this is the gospel of the lord praise to you lord Jesus Christ. Jesus said children are prescious and innocent and are admitted to heaven immediately that's were that little 8 year old angel went straight into the arms of Jesus. I would not like to be Mr Rafferty on his day of judgement.
0 likeswhy did it take 3 yearS??
0 likes"That's pure evil, bud"
2501 likesSaid like a true Canadian.
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Well said, guy.
58 likesI agree, pal.
51 likesIm not your bud, friend
82 likesI'm not your friend, bud.
63 likesIām not your guy, bud
47 likes@TTV. Toxic Im not your bud, guy
38 likesBlack 40 Iām not your guy, pal.
23 likes@TheDizzleHawke I'm not your pal, mate.
15 likescheese hill Iām not your mate, chum.
14 likes@TheDizzleHawke i eat dry wall a lot i need to stop help
13 likes@TheDizzleHawke
8 likesI'm not your chum, bucko
@Data Icey I'm not your bud, bud.
7 likes@TheDizzleHawke I'm not your chum, amigo.
6 likescheese hill Iām not your amigo, compadre.
7 likeshow about "you haven't even touched your donut"?!!
5 likesCarla Marlene Iām not your donut, muffin.
12 likes@TheDizzleHawke I'm not ur muffin, crackerjack!
11 likesHey buddy ol' chap... that's pure evil.
3 likesDonātchu know
0 likesSounds like a sans line
1 likeI'm not your bromo, comrade
5 likes@Danny Pqliar Im not your comrade, bro
2 likesYou didn't touch your timmies, thats pure evil bud
1 likeI'm not your Compadre, Partner
3 likesI'm not your partner, bro!
0 likesStephen Zavatski move this to Britain bc Canada isnāt gonna fuck this dude up
0 likes(yes I know itās far easier said than done)
@Anthony Sepulveda I'm not your bro, brochacho.
2 likesI'm not your bud, fella.
0 likesāKill them with kindness. Then club them like a baby seal.ā Quote from an instructor at an Interview/Interrogations class. All the respect in the world for the people that deal with these monsters.
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And I hope the people like the interrogator and everyone else who has to work on cases like these get proper therapy. I know how I feel and I can see how the people the comments feel just watching of video of, what is essentially, just 2 people talking. Imagine having to see the crime scene, figuring out what happened, talking to the victim's relatives.... People like this Micheal truly cause an amount of harm that can not be undone in any way.
7 likeswhy bring baby seals into this, just club them to the end would suffice.
5 likes@Lunar Bubu You know, I thought I was reading wrong and second guessed myself. I was trying to say maybe they meant to say the baby seal is the one doing the clubbing. Agree, no hitting baby seals.
1 like@toohsas it's canada what do you expect
2 likes@Chatian anyone who can kill animal, or baby seal can easily as same kill man, woman or child
1 likeClub like a baby seal is a pretty shit analogy but i get the idea
1 like@Chatian How the hell are you the only one to understand the "clubbing baby seals" saying? Everyone here is taking it so literally lmao
0 likes@toohsas Baby seals were brought up because it's a popular saying
1 likeHearing the "bad cop" go through what happened was horrifying. It really paints how vile that p.o.s is.
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The good one is so good at making it seem smaller right? So when he comes in your just reminded how awful it all is
9 likesWe need a documentary on the interviewer, I find this man insanely interesting and Iād love to hear his other cases that heās worked on
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Out of all of the criminal psychology videos and true crime interrogations ive seen, this guy is the most fucking absolutely fascinating interrogator ive seen.
7 likesThis interrogator is the definition of RELENTLESS.
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@J L however this is a bit different because he doesnt need a confession.
2 likesExactly what I was thinking. I'd have given myself up after ten minutes of that incessant onslaught
2 likesThis man just wont stop advancing. He keeps attacking till the guy breaks. What a god man
1 like@Kim Jong Oooof He didn't break though.
0 likesI never understand why people dont ask for a lawyer?? That would end this and he wont have to sit for hours and hours with people talking at him. As many as i have seen they never ask for a lawyer
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People, especially the guilty, often see calling for lawyers as a sign of guilt. So, they feel that they have to prove themselves in the interrogation room, damning themselves.
0 likes25 minutes in and I would have confessed to everything that ever happened. I would have confessed to faking the moon landing. I would tell him where Elvis is. I would admit to anything if he would just shut up. Damn he's good.
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Iām about ten minutes in and he hasnāt shut up. Isnāt the point of interrogation to get the suspect talking? Iām guessing he gets there but Iāve never seen an interrogation where the detective just rambles.
12 likesBob Wiley I assume because the detective already knows heās guilty, heās just waiting for Michael to crack, scream, get angry or simply just confess. Itās all subjective. if you compare this guy to the Chris Watts case, for example, the detectives change their interrogation style to suit the person theyāre interrogating. Chris rambled his head off after every question asked so the detective in that case just asked open questions. However, this guy would sit in silence, thinking, speculating, trying to find a solution to the situation. Which is not what the detective wants at all so In this case, the detective is the rambler. Thatās just what I think though lol.
22 likesAssuming he is literally just trying to kill him with kindness, like frying him, cause I assumed the same thing, but he just keeps on when no confession comes, but the dude already confessed with bodylanguage and weak denying ect. + evidence so it makes sense they just wanna fry him as much as possible, or also just want him to talk for the sake of understanding it better.
2 likesontario detectives don't seem to miss
0 likesWHY CANT TRUMP BE AS NICE AS THIS DUDE????
0 likesInteresting to see an "unsuccessful" interrogation. Thank you.
40 likesMedieval torture
0 likesAt 8 children is it not procedure for children to be monitored at home time, with teachers watching each student being 'handed over' to a known person (anyone who may pick up has to be authorised by the in advance). So the children line up and one by one the children leave and the teacher must witness the child meeting the responsible adult, else the child stay at the school with their teacher! Well that is what happens everyday at the schools my Nieces attend (2 different schools) & they are 7 & 8?!
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Surely she didn't walk home at that age?
1 likeHow long will he get in prison?
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Life in prison with a chance of parole in 25 years
1 likeWow, I almost cried when they showed the little girl's face, just knowing where this story was going. She deserved so much better, she deserved a good life. Poor baby. She will be forever loved.
42 likesCan't get a girlfriend so he picks an 8 year old tough.
1 likeThe detective talks so much, is he going to shut up long enough for the suspect to speak?
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@Rocklobstah4649 Oh I think the law enforcement care a LOT about what he has to say. That would be the whole purpose of an interrogation.
1 likeIf youāre a writer - these interrogations, and the subsequent commentary by the OP, are worth their weight in gold as a character study. The evasion of the suspects, the detailed and specific questioning of the investigator - pure gold. Thank you for posting!
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Sounds like you're a writer
22 likesIt's like the intro to the original COPS series, 'There are no actors, everything you see is real"
5 likes@Leon the third yup
2 likes@Dave McGuire Reads I thought you were gonna say " sounds like you're Sherlock holmes." You know, cause you're a writer. But thats cool I guess
7 likes@Leon the third I guess Iām
6 likesNot a good writer lol
@Dave McGuire Reads Just keep reading, you'll get there. and pack a thesaurus. And watch J C S Criminal Physiology, I've heard that helps
4 likes@Leon the third thatās the mantra. āI think I can. I think I can. I think I can.ā
4 likes@Dave McGuire Reads 100%. This is the exact mantra, I used to become the top ayahuasca dealer in Lincoln Nebraska. "I think I can. I think I can."
4 likesThe first interrogator made me think of Agent Smith, his voice, his demeanors, his aggressivity
0 likesI KNOWWWWW my protagonist is the more (and somehow less) bonkers sort of serial killer but this is still sort of useful
1 likeI couldn't agree more. I'm an aspiring writer myself.
0 likesThis case is so dark and leaves me with a lot of negative feelings, but it's so funny when the "good cop" investigator promises him food and instead waits an hour and then returns with his coconspirator to confront him. Cops aren't really allowed to take much revenge on suspects (and they shouldn't be), so this little fuck you is hilarious.
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This is a comment Iām looking for lmao š
2 likesWhat I speculate happened was the two professionals spoke and decided that instead of giving him food still in hopes of the chance that he might verbally confess, said to each other something in the way of, "fuck it, he's probably not gonna confess at this point anyway; you can go home, I'm just gonna tell him what a piece of shit he is to his face for half an hour."
4 likes@Poochie Collins from what I heard, the second investigator is the one who found the girls body. So he probably said he wanted to put in a few words.
0 likes@Mr Bonjangle : yeah, that, and he probably told the other investigator to don't worry about trying to procure more information from the suspect and go home. B/c the psychologist wasn't offering food out of the goodness of his heart, but to encourage the suspect to share information.
0 likesWhen this first started, the way he was acting (crying, almost vomiting, etc), i thought they had already shown him the evidence. I thought he already knew he was guilty based on the way he was acting. That just shows how guilty his behavior was. Innocent people dont break down emotionally like that. For him to then start acting innocent towards the end, was strange.
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I agree, also someone said he might be going throw withdraw of opioids of something. That is also a possibility.
12 likesHe was going through opiate withdrawal. Even his hair will have been hurting him and I think good don't give him any methadone just throw him in a cell. They stopped to buy pills while they were on their way to violate that poor innocent little girl.
3 likesI loved the dialogue that JCS said describing how mike was playing a victim and how his victim would have felt during the time he was committing the crime. It was amazingly written and so very well described. This monster deserves no sympathy whatsoever
76 likesThis dude could break down a wall with his interrogation skills.
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Ok? Alright? Ok? Alright? Ok? Alright? Ok? Alright? Ok? Alright? Ok? Alright?
6 likes@John Jacobs what
0 likes@neck he literally says one of the 2 after EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE. It gave me a headache
3 likes@John Jacobs oh
0 likes@John Jacobs Might just be using those words as adhesives between sentences or ways to engage the guy into participation.
1 likeKinda like "you agree?" or "say smth if you agree"
The amount of respect i have for this interrogator is out of this world
99 likesI had a hard time watching this. I don't think that this detective could get even close to the amount of credit that he deserves. I know that this has been said in the comments but this guy, this detective, is truly a legend.
79 likesThank you for coming to my TED TALK
I remember this case clearly. It hurts my heart as much today as it did when it happened. Rest peacefully Tori. We wont forget you š
44 likesOne of the worst cases and interrogations I have ever seen for sure. This guy showed no remorse and guilt for what he has done. His only thought during the interrogation was to save his a**. I don't like to judge people but he truly deserves life in prison.
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Life and afterlife in prison
3 likesWhat about an eye for an eye. He donāt just deserve to be on a life sentence
5 likes@Angina Pectoris Don't worry. Rapists get the worst treatment in prison,the other prisoners will not let him live peacefully in jail.
4 likesThe childish way he behaves, shivering and crying trying to gain some kind of pity from the interrogator is even more disturbing and grotesque knowing the violent, evil, inhumane nature of the act he committed. He tried to deny and escape from the accusations till the last moment, while actually knowing he in fact did it to that poor girl. he didn't care, he just wanted to get away with it. Some people are just broken to the point of no return.
20 likesI have so much respect for that cop at the end. The amount of restraint he shows there is unbelievable. If I were in one room with such a sick fuck I for sure would have done something horrible.
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Restraint? Lmao the guy completely lost it. He let his emotions get the better of him.
0 likesi love your videos because it really makes me think about why humanity is like this.. such an innocent soul taken away in such a cruel way. Really makes you confused about reality
1 likeI commend the man who conducted the interrogation because I could not. I hope he can live in peace with all the evil he's had to witness. Bless him and those like him.
1 likeHe did a great job of inducing anxiety, and then keeping the pressure on. Whatās important in this interrogation, is not the suspect talking. This is designed to break him.
3 likesThe repetition of statements is going to raise his blood pressure. This works like a steady jab, heās likely to have a burst of frustration and give something away.;
There just doesn't seem to be enough deterrent for these kind of crimes.
42 likesI watched the story of the Yorkshire Ripper the other night, and wondered what would happen if they just let the victims' family administer justice, or even the millions of frightened women at the time.
What good can releasing Mike in 25 years bring? What good can come from having 25 years of his life paid for by the tax payers?
About the best that we can hope for is that his lovely personality makes him popular in prison, and he gets a bit of his own treatment.
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Couldn't agree more with you. All victims of these crimes, men, women and children, are seldom taken seriously. I can only imagine it's because the elite" in our world have worked so hard to build a system where victims are never or hardly ever taken seriously and can take advantage of the justice system to avoid punishment.
2 likesThese criminals deserve to have the same pain, if not more, they inflicted on their victims. They do. As a victim myself, I know I'll never get justice. It sucks.
in theory yeah... killing a murderer feels right.
4 likesBut giving the state the ability to execute citizens is.... a very very slippery slope.
I always believe in giving everyone a second chance. Prison should exist to rehabilitate not to purely punish. Otherwise you get something like the US where two thirds of released prisoners return to prison in less than a decade. ... But. .... ..
Cases like this exist.
I believe that in cases like this. Where the guilt is not in question at all and the severence of the crime is absolute evil. I think that in cases like this every state should have a "Option B".
It shouldn't be death. That seems A. Too lenient for the people that deserve this and B. Too extreme in case it hits an innocent person.
It should be rotting away in a prison cell. For the rest of your life.
Luckily many places in this world might give a r*pist 25 years in prison but after those years he comes out in front of a judge who then just goes "yeah he ain't done yet, put him back in." ...
He won't have an easy time in prison once the other prisoners hear about what he did though.. so there's that i guess, right?
0 likesI (as a Canadian) had to laugh when he goes "look at you, you haven't even touched your doughnut!"
39 likesI'm a pretty empathetic person, probably too much if I'm being honest because I even tend to almost feel bad for people in bad situations even when they put themselves in those situations and I try to think about their circumstances and what could've been going on in their head. But people like these deserve what they get and then some, genuinely sickening.
1 likeThe patience of these detectives is very commendable. I had to pause on some occasions because damn you just want to punch his lights out.
3 likesIncredible to watch how clever this interviewer is. How does he come down after this???
9 likesvery interesting to see michael vs terry. terry was completely distraught and felt very guilty according to the other detective. and then looking at michael, who's only worried about what will happen to himself... worried about losing the rest of his life.... does he not realize tori lost her life to him? we are just lucky tori didn't have to live with the trauma she would have sustained from that experience. michael however deserves to rot in prison.
0 likesThe detective is also repeating things over and over,after hearing things a certain amount of times people tend to believe them.
16 likes(ie: "you've made mistakes right?" , "I don't think you're a monster." ,Etc.)
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@Gabriela Martiniuc Was this suppose to be in the main comments or on mine?
0 likes@Christina W I donāt remember
0 likesWhy did the girl do what she did? Why not call the cops at Home Depot? The innocence of a child is such a beautiful thing, and people who use that have a special place in hell.
5 likesI couldn't be a chef as I hate heat, I can't be a pilot cause I'm terrified of planes, I couldn't be a soldier because I'm a bit of a coward and I couldn't be a detective because I'm not entirely sure I could sit in a room with a pedophile murderer without wanting to inflict extreme violence upon them. I respect them for keeping their cool.
0 likesi really hope this guy has a similar prison experience to jeffrey dahmer tbh
2 likesMajor kudos to the detective able to talk as if raping an 8yo was like getting a parking ticket even when saying specifically this situation is much more dire than getting a parking ticket.
1 likeMan shook his hand as if out of respect and not like those hands had killed a child recently, like a sympathetic guy happening across someone in normal, unfortunate circumstances.
Heās behaving like a 12 year old who got caught using his momās credit card
9 likesThat's why pencils have erasers.. we all make mistakes
1 likeDude has some serious composure skills considering he's talking to a dude who abducted, raped and killed an 8 year old
Thats the most Canadian detective moment I've ever seen
This investigator is so professional and good at his job. There is nothing more frustrating and that can anger me quicker than someone denying something after being presented and told the evidence contradicting their story. He is really good.
0 likesThe question that I have is how are they ever going to get accomplices to turn if after being a key witness you get the exact same sentence?
1 likeThe detective talked the entire time!!! Well done sir
0 likesI'd be terrified of meeting the owner of this channel at a party or bar lol. Imagine being verbally vivisectioned by a criminal psychologist within seconds of meeting them LOL
0 likesI couldn't have been in that jury. I would've just started crying.
3 likesThis investigator is great. Guy obviously wants to curl up in a ball but investigator just keeps talking and keeps the guys brain moving and beating him down. Great stuff.
4 likes54:48 The big sigh he gives once the the detective leaves the room after reminding him he was gonna spend the rest of his life in a pokey little room like that, brilliant lol
1 likeIntroduce medieval torture before death penalty. Sometimes two wrongs make things right and this is one of those times.
2 likesIf he acknowledged it at all then maybe I'd feel a scrap of empathy for him but I can't. He couldn't even take responsibility for his own crimes.
0 likesMain interrogator's speech reminds me of Mr. Mackey, but it's a really minor thing to nitpick about, given he was able to fill that much time with almost no responses from them perpetrator.
0 likesThanks for zero music in all your videos . What makes me feel less pain is knowing that the poor baby is in heaven now.
1 likeI just hope that for the rest of his miserable life. He feels all the terror and fear he put upon that poor child. Who in the hell wants to have sex with an innocent child. And then kill the child so brutally. And the woman who went along with it. How did she have the heartless action to walk that child to her assault and death. You Never know what people are thinking behind their smiles!
0 likesI would have given the detective half of my salary just to see him rip that stupid blanket off and laugh with the other detective as they leave.
4 likesWhat a detective, master class
0 likesWhat in the world was the motivation of that 18 year old girl who lured the child? Why did she do it?
4 likesThis is actually the right thing to do, listen to your lawyer and stfu, if you are innocent and want to help, make sure your lawyers are around to advice. Educational video :thumbsup:
0 likesBreh props to that investigator having to sit there and reassure him knowing full well what he did but still having to be the way that he was with him just so he could do his job
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breh
0 likes@huhnoodles what
0 likes"We all make mistakes; that's why pencils have erasers." To an actual murderer
0 likesI donāt know how you can treat him nice when you know what the bastard did! I donāt think I could do it!!
1 likeMichael Jordan of basketball,
3 likesWayne Gretzky of hockey,
Tiger woods of golf,
Detective Chris of morally destroying his enemies
Wtf does āsentenced to life in prison without the possibility of paroleā¦ for 25 yearsā mean?
3 likesThat in 25 years theyāll be up for parole? Both of them? After what they did?
Love it how he dyed his hair like Bruce Willis in The Jackal. What a brilliant, cunning criminal mastermind.
0 likesThe girl too, how did he get her involved, the promise of drugs?, she must have the worst addiction ever to get involved with that guy, what an a$$hole. I think child murderes are the lowest in prison too
3 likesIf this guy investigated me i would confess a crime i didn't do.
7 likesBy far the best interrogation Iāve ever see
0 likesPossibility of parole in 25 yrs. Hmm, let's see, that little girl would be about 33 and maybe have started her own family with a little girl of her own. When these demons are out enjoying their freedom her mother will still be putting flower's on her grave!
6 likes37:05 I love this part on. The detective is brutal
6 likesThe amount of self control these detectives have, not to throw that scalding tea on him and then stomp the living fuck out of his face?
2 likesListening to this detective broke me down.
0 likesDam I wish we could've got the last 45min or so when the detective was lighting him up I wish I could hear it un-edited, you know the cop was talking good shit to him
0 likesI can only hope he gets what he deserves in prison..
3 likesāHe wasnāt about to go out of his way to get a takeaway meal for a child killer.ā
2 likes48 hours in and the detective hasnāt stopped š¤£ jeez dude just said the same thing over and over
0 likesThe fact the two mins can chance your whole life course is so messed up bless this beautiful girl and I mean she was legit beautiful she had her whole life in from if her and a grown Ass man took it away in just to get off like how the fuck can people be like this he already had that girl Terri iu am sure he could have got off with her the fact he hurt this child to fell pleasure makes me wish all sex offenders where out in genpop cuz even the hardcore murders know doing this kinda stuff is a big ass violation of lifeās common sense .
0 likesThis detective is awsome . A real pro.
0 likesSwifty spoken. ššThanks JCS
0 likesāWhatās your biggest concern right now ā
3 likes-Losing my life
WHAT ABOUT THE LOST CHILDāS LIFE HUH
"That's why pencils have erasers"
3 likesAnd in this case, it's why pencils have a pointy end.
Im grown up 30yo male,and i want to cry when i think about this innocent
0 likeslittle girl and other part of me just wants to punish this man..
This man had 17 GIGABYTES of cp on his PC. How do you even get that much without it even getting detected? Fuckin sicko.
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Jared Fogle had Terabytes of the shit.
0 likesThis must be the most brutal one of these crimes
0 likesim pissed off that he only got 25 years
2 likesThe guy is good..the detective. However, at some point, I am waiting for him to just give the guy silence and let him talk on his own.
0 likesCalling it life when it is 25 years makes my blood boil. Life should mean geting out in a coffins
2 likesSgt Smith again! This guy is amazing.
0 likesI was so happy when he totally finessed him into really thinking he was going to get him foodšš did this man so dirtyš¤£š¤£š¤£
0 likesHoly shit is the detective that interviewed the woman at the beginning the same one that interrogated Col. Russell Williams?
1 likeI'm shouting "Oh ffs, just get on with it" I've been spoken to more harshly for a highway speeding ticket.
0 likesit took 3 YEARS TO FIND HIM GUILTY?!
0 likes37:07 āget rid of your fucking security blanket and start being a manā š didnāt know they spoke like that in Canada
4 likesI know this is a very serious case. But I would've loved an "aboot" counter
0 likesI've seen many of these where the guy was actually innocent and the cops were just lying so I assumed this was the case here too. I was getting Pretty pissed at the cops for making up all those lies. Imagine my shock when I learned this guy was actually guilty. I never changed teams so fast in my life.
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Luckily, unless stated, JCS only shows the psychological torture of guilty parties
2 likesDid you not watch the beginning of it ?
0 likesPlease more videos!!
1 likeI really wonder what goes through a detective's head when he is talking to a piece of shit like this and how he keeps his calm. I don't think I could do it.
1 like16 broken ribs?! How is that possible? š¤Ø
0 likesHe broke him by saying "OK!"
0 likesTook three years to find this man guilty and he can get out when he's 56 years old. Canada... Canada is a little too soft.
4 likesSometimes I rewatch this video just to see the guy venting towards the end. One of the few satisfying moments in this video
0 likesThere really, truly are monsters out there. Really, really. Here are two.
0 likesThis video always makes me sick to my stomach. RIP Tori
1 likeJUSTICE SERVED!
0 likesthis detective is good
0 likesI didn't know I was in for a double murder when I started this video
0 likesI just donāt understand how a female can help with such a thing š
1 likeHow do these cops go home and shut the insanity off..hard job
1 likethis detective is an athlete
0 likesāAnd Iām having a good timeā god damn
1 likeOmg this cop thinks heās so good at interrogation itās hilarious. Nobodyās falling for his psycho babble BS. My God shut up already.
0 likesHe puts on the āblanketā right away to protect himself.
1 likeI now realize that I can't commit a crime, because this detective would work me over like a piece of gum. š³
0 likesDamn he's good!
The "you haven't even finished your donut" comment sent me ššš
0 likesIf i learned one thing from this channel
0 likesIt that Canadian interrogators are better than American interrogators
This has real Outsider vibes. Ofcourse The Outsider is just a show. I guess I just don't want to believe someone is really capable of shit like this.
0 likesWhy is this guys voice so soothing and calm talking about such morbid things
1 likeThe fucking nerve of this guy to cry during this.
2 likesthis interrogator is a super star talker.
1 likeDamn the investigator is drilling him great
0 likesThey said London and I'm like "what the hell. Canadians just go wherever they want."
0 likes"You're not built for this sh*t!" So out of left field I had to rewind that once I composed myself
0 likes26:00 ālook at yuh you can barely eat u havenāt touched her doughnutā most Canadian thing yet
0 likes25 years is no were near long enough he needs a full lifetime tariff
1 likeI just noticed that a lot of the criminals on this channel are named Michael
0 likes8 year old, such innocent soul
0 likesthe cop offers the childkiller a blanket to keep warm and a hot tea. This is definately Canada and not the US, lol
1 likeOh wow they brought Terry into the interrogation - peak!
0 likesisn't the technique used at around 48:30 that he says has no specific strategy playing hard ball?
0 likesPure evil
2 likesI actually thought he was gonna bring him some food
0 likesIs there any info on Chris Loam?
1 likeI'll call a lawyer after 10 minutes since my ear is sore...
0 likesyo that lead investigator was going hard holy shit lmao
0 likesMichael āgoing full sure on somethingā Rafferty
0 likesThis investigator is tremendous. How he manages to just keep incessantly talking in the necessary manner is remarkable, and then he also tosses in some great one liners while getting his man. True legend.
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Absoloutly, I struggle to hold my own in a normal conversation with no pressure. This guy has to keep talking all the while keeping the pressure on in just the right way.
3 likesThis is several levels above my social skills.
@That Guy right? I'd end up talking about what I had for dinner last night, and the kind of music I listened to in high school.
1 likeThis channel is teaching me to not trust white Canadian men with the first name Michael
3 likesyou havenāt touched your donut I couldnāt help but laugh.
1 likeWhat a coward.
2 likesFor those interested, after sentencing McClintick claimed indigenous heritage to get herself transferred to a minimum-security indigenous "Healing Centre" in Saskatchewan, which is essentially a giant spa where violent offenders are handled with kid gloves because of so-called "systemic racism." Canada's Conservative Party fought to have the transfer reversed. Their motion was defeated by the Liberal party, 100% of which voted to keep the accessory to child rape and murder out of federal prison. The resulting public outrage forced Ralph Goodale, then Minister of Public Safety, to unilaterally reverse McClintick's transfer and return her to federal prison. McClintick is not indigenous.
0 likesironic that canadians can play good cop really good lmao
0 likes"You haven't touched your doughnut" lmaoo
0 likesputting these guys in protective custody is a slap in the face to the parents. Let this goof feel what Tori felt, that's justice.
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No. It is not inmates kill these Guys, and of it happend before he is found guilty, with a verdict. The parent donāt have closser.
0 likesThis guy is a monster and full of evil but isn't the cop saying other cop don't want the killer talking to him coercion? If the killer admired everything at that point the case be throwed out?
0 likesthere is a special place in hell for monsters who kill children...
1 likeI would confess to anything if he just stopped talking.....damn...lol
0 likesWaitā¦ they both got the same sentence??? That doesnāt seem rightā¦.
1 likeThat's why pencils have erasers, we all make mistakes LOL šš
1 likeThis dudes mistakes are made in ink
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In permanent marker
0 likesMy dumbass canāt kill anyone and get away with it because I would fall for the nice act of the detective š
0 likesLook, all Iām saying is that this interview has gatekeeping, gaslighting, and girlbossing. Just saying.
0 likesThis detective is all of us. Going back in just to say his piece. What an awesome detective
21 likessame interrogator that skewed Russell Williams
0 likesthe composite sketch f*ckin scare me ššš
0 likesbro crime happens in canada?? craaaazy
1 likelove the tim hortons order they have so canadian
0 likesLet the father visit him in private. That would be a fair punishment
1 likePoor kid. She mustāve been terrified
0 likesits canada, makes sense how the investigators can be so nice
0 likesThat drawing is absolutely terrifying
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and the fact that she looks just like the drawing
0 likes37:07 is when the doom music starts playing
1 likeMurderer has nice clothes on. Those are "im going to jail but go easy on me" clothes.
0 likesLike the pencil eraser reference āļøāļø
0 likesāYou barely touched your donutā
0 likesThey should never come out of prison. Ever. I dont care how much she regretted it and cooperated. They got caught and that is it. I also wish they could send Michael to a prison like San Quentin California. He would be truly facing justice there.
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and she
0 likesDo Canadians have a right vs self-incrimination?
0 likesNow I'm out of JCS videos and I'm sad.
0 likesTori was killed across from my dad farm. It was actually mennonites that found her laying in a rock pile in their field. They phoned to police but asked them to be confidential because they dont like any form of attention. It broke all of our hearts to know she was so close to us when killed. There was a house directly across from where it happened. Just an awful tragedy. May she rest in peace
23 likesI'd confess to anything just to get him to shut up
0 likesHow fvcked up does one have to be to do this horrific stuff to a freakin child
0 likes21:46 āyouāre not that guy palā
0 likes21:46 āyouāre not that guy palā
0 likes"I just don't feel comfortable talking about it." What an absolute POS. Literally makes me sick to my stomach. Imagine the terror that poor little girl felt and this guy is holding onto a blanket like a wimp because he's 'not comfortable'.
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He's a psychopath and a narcissist, he can only "care" about himself. Nothing and no one else
4 likes@Johnny Jon John go away
0 likesHes going through opiate withdrawal, so hes sick, weak, cold, shaky, and emotionally vulnerable, which makes his blankie clutching and sniffling even more satisfying.
2 likesright??? i am so fucking mad
0 likes@Rob _ ah a Incel has been spotted
2 likesDamn I really respect these interrogators. On top of having to emotionally distance themselves from the knowledge that they're speaking civilly to people who have raped and murdered innocent people, they also have to remember all their training, run their mouths for hours, and fight off the fatigue from the effort they're exerting both physically, mentally, and possibly emotionally.
35 likeswhen the second detective said āget rid of your f***ing security blanket and be a manā i felt more satisfied with this interrogation
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Time stamp?
7 likes@Eat Your Cereal 37:08
49 likesThank you. I felt the exact same way
17 likesYes!!!
5 likesThat was Smith, the guy that made the ex colonel of the army in Ontario talk about his killings. I have much respect for the man. He was a guest not long ago on the behavior panel.
48 likesI hate it when people say "be a man" but that is the only time I will accept it uwu
54 likesI wish Chris Watts had been treated more like this
24 likesI liked his side way betterā¦straight to the point and no BS
8 likesFor God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16ā¤ļø
8 likes@Olivia Grace Where in the world did this come from
22 likes@SweetLilWeirdo The Bible.
5 likes@Spooky I'm aware, it just feels really random to add .w.
6 likesCould you imagine if a talked to chicks like that? Do ducking this and be a woman?
1 likeYee
0 likes@SweetLilWeirdo judging by your profile pic id say u get that a lot
3 likes@john m Whaaa? Which comment of mine are you replying to?
3 likes@john m preach lmao
1 like@john m preach bro
1 like@SweetLilWeirdo is that a villager pfp?
1 like@Travis Storm Oh yeah it is, it was from a dress up game that was inspired by Animal Crossing! ^^
0 likes@SweetLilWeirdo awww
1 likeKoot ^^
@Travis Storm It really is!
0 likes@Natasha Peeters I love him! Saw the one about Russell Williams and fell right in love with Jim Smith. He is one amazing man. He broke Russell. It was incredible to watch
1 like@kaczan3 What would be weird about that? It's just saying to stop being a child (ie boy or girl) and to start being an adult (ie man or woman). I don't get why people get so upset by that.
1 like@Daniel Nichols umm he was thereās tons of integration footage plus in court he was called a POs and then he cried
0 likesThe guy who said that must've felt like such a Chad :D
0 likes@SweetLilWeirdo the bible...š¬
0 likesindeed
0 likesHe also went full Alpha in his follow-up interrogation
0 likes@SweetLilWeirdo left field?
1 likeJim Smyth, I believe. His brilliant interrogation of Russell Williams is dissected by the Behavior Panel.
0 likesliterally came to the comments right after it happened
0 likes@Olivia Grace Has nothing to do with what everybody is talking.
0 likesI feel spammed...
@SweetLilWeirdo Totally agree it's like a spam to me, almost on every videos random people spam us with their bible verses... š
2 likes@Harley Quinn Wahh, glad I'm not alone. It's not that I hate it or anything, it just feels random to bring up sometimes. Hopefully no one is too upset with me ;_;
0 likes@kaczan3 I mean itās the same thing
0 likesme too..
0 likesthe only time when toxic masculinity is not only okay, but very much welcome
1 like@Olivia Grace šā¤
0 likesI love how this channel does a great job analyzing the suspect without glorifying them or the crimes, like a lot of crime channels do
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Underrated comment
10 likesIts literally why I watch it. Other documentaries or crime podcasts either glorify the killer or obsess over the victims.
17 likesit actually makes comments about how dumb they are i love it
6 likesthey just spill the facts and make psychological analysis no adding drama
4 likesIt's insane how the detective doesn't stop talking. I bet when he gets home he enjoys to just not talk and listen to someone else.
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I bet his wife is happy. Weird isnt it? We have what a real man is right there, and then sitting across from him is the complete opposite?
21 likesItās crazy and unbearable! He doesnāt give Rafferty any time to āexplainā as he keeps asking the guy to do!!!,
3 likes@Tina Takapoui he didn't deserve to talk
11 likes@PixelTrain closedM that's for sure. But the detective ironically asks him to explain without giving him the time. I'm not sure if the detective is just like that: most probably it's a technique he uses to drive him on the edge.
2 likesIt is a technique. Doesn't give the criminal any time to think.
18 likes@Orillia Driving Tools it's an awesome one.
1 like@Tina Takapoui hi, he explains in the video if you remember that he keeps talking precisely for that reason. He wants to gain more evidence via his obvious body language and unchanging demeanor when presented with the events described (which of course include the abduction, sexual assault, and murder). There is nothing he could get out of him that could damn him faster to hell
4 likesNever stop talking. And heās ALL in his space. I love it ! This detective is a master class.
3 likesThe detective is very aware of his non-stop talking. He's doing it on purpose, so the suspect never gets a chance to strategize in his m
4 likesind.
I can never understand how these officers manage to stay so calm. Many of them have kids of their own and yet they seem to go through these things with zero emotional investment. True professionalism.
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I can imagine itās fun picking someone apart and watching them dig their own grave.
20 likesGo to the end the guy destroys him
2 likesThey have emotional investment most of the time. It defends on the individual but when working for the law you gotta be cool. My grandpa was part of the NYPD and he said the reason he drank himself half to death was because he couldnāt cope with trying not to lose his head any other way.
5 likesIt really does mess with them, I've talked with/listened to two child abuse prosecutors on multiple occasions. Right now he's doing his job, but the stuff he sees will follow him home
4 likesThey have to burry those feelings. Thatās why police have such a high suicide rate.
1 likeItās role playing. If they break character, it all falls apart.
0 likesNo one:
0 likesPedophile: I havenāt eaten since noon š
I like the "Bad Cop"...
82 likes"I'm sitting in this Room for Tori. Making you squirm, put you though some of the grief you put her through... That's why I'm in here Mike.
And I'm having a good time."
He has the calmness I wish I had
That cop is the coolest professional I've ever seen. The way he can act chill and friendly with that murdering animal is freakin' amazing.
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At least we have the comfort of knowing he'll probably be killed in prison.
9 likesi would act out... bad and thats why im not a detective lmao
1 likeThat police officer interviewing him is so cool and professional -that canāt be easy considering what this creep has just done - great credit to him
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he would make a great salesman..
1 likeAppreciate the amount of Canadian content. Interesting analysis of important cases many Canadians were impacted by.
25 likesI like how they gave him the blanket and donut and then roast him about it š
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"I didn't make you take the donut; YOU took the donut!"
79 likes@nebula nox haha
5 likesACE A āyou just gonna sit there with your fucking security blanketā š
169 likesDying at the comments in here š š š
21 likesThese comments lmao
9 likesI love how at 4 and a half minutes into their interview, he casually says ā... my job is to assess the threat level and I K N O W Y O U Rā E R E S P O N S I B L E F O R O N E D E A T Hā
57 likesLol true
1 likeWhen was that? I never heard it.
0 likesNvm I heard it when the other guy came in right after I posted my comment. Lol
6 likes38:08 for anyone who missed it š
37 likes@pupperoni šš
1 likeEarned every bit of that verbal beatdown Hopefully some corrupt CO's forget that he is not supposed to be in gen pop down the line? ššššš¤š¾šÆ
4 likes@HB-DC aka Mr Hidden š„· šššāļø šÆ
1 likeoops!
@Lee DesRosiers Cool motive, Still murder! -- Jake Peralta, B99
5 likesiLoveMilfs can yāall pls tag the time lmao
2 likes@Ge Po Was joke... ššš
1 likeACE A Detective Smyth is my favorite interrogator. He's the one that called it his security blanket. Hahaha. Watch the other videos he's in, he knows how to get to these evil killers. He did a good job making Russell Williams confess also.
13 likes@pupperoni š¤£š thanks for that! I actually had missed that part but was able to go back. Lmfao!
2 likesThis may sound insane, but what if he is innocent and the real criminal had threatened him with the death of his family or some shit if he talked? I think it's unlikely but it just might explain his annoying silence
1 like@19zuzi82 That's what Vlad "The Impaler" did. He would put the victims on a pole that I've read about the details of how they would live for a few days impaled. It's pretty nasty.
2 likes@Richie Schneider Yep.
2 likesThe living thing is a myth, tho. The live ones were wounded and bound to poles. The impaled were already dead or dead-to.be-REALLY-SOON. Typical intimidation/shock factor + possible personal sadistic satisfaction of Vlad III. I visited his castle in Romania, it's dauntingly beautiful.
I know this because I know all I can know about Psychopathy, Serial Killers, Criminal Psychiatry/Psychology & co. I have a minor in Forensic Criminology.
But thank you, it's nice to know that somebody else is just as a weirdo as I am for knowing this things!!! š¤£š¤£š¤£
@19zuzi82 That's really cool; I have been wanting to visit the Sedlec Ossuary for a long time. I'm definitely interested in the macabre! I'll try to find where I saw this, but I specifically remember them talking about how the poles would push up the victim's diaphragm.
1 likeIt's funny; I remember when I was in high school my favorite section at the book store was always True Crime. I like trying to figure out the little steps that people take to go from normal person to necrophilic serial murderer.
I have to get back to work; have a good day!
@K "Insane", he said it himself š¤£
1 like@Richie Schneider Are you...me??? lol
2 likesAlso, 11/10 on the Sedlec Ossuary, it's amazing. We have a few here in Italy as well, if you want to come and visit!
Interrogators be like:
0 likes@19zuzi82 Lol this is a "Fight Club" Tyler Durden situation! I'm in USA, but it's cool to talk to someone with similar interests. I went to Germany twice, but that was a few years ago.
1 likeSidharth Kumar Menon IN it seems highly unlikely especially since the first witnessed confessed to everything and itās backed by cctv evidence. Also the way he was responding seemed typical of someone thatās lying, shocked and doesnāt know what to say. He had way too many smart ass comments to have any fear about his actually family dying etc.
2 likes@19zuzi82 tis what thou lord doeth wear
0 likesTim Horton's coffee rocks!
0 likesACE A hahaha I know eh
0 likespupperoni lol
0 likesWait women have semen? I thought that was for men.. I thought women have idk what women have...o guess it is semen
0 likes@DJ Warning What interrogation? It's a hour long 35876640Ā°C proper roasting. Psychopedo walked out shedding coals.
1 likeā@Thatguys Son https://bzfd.it/2NEU9As YO HI HERNANDO! Da Boss is not here he's gone to add a few diamonds to his armour so I'm chillin here in His place. Here's your fuchsia Swarowski cape crown and rings, food hall is that way (free taco day everyday, you lucky ma man, they got even the veggie ones) and feel free to do the hanky panky with anyone man woman and everything in between, Da Boss doesn't care, he's just a bit skittish bout doing it with the animals, just don't bother the angels too much they are a bit, y'know... sensitive Welcome to heaven amigo!
2 likesLook at the big picture here the Bloke he's talking to is no good & unstable he's doing his job The D's a professional!!!
0 likesTime stamp?
0 likes@DJ WarningI feel it was meant to determine the remorse, does he feel guilty? Is he a monster? This was not for a confession but an assessment.
1 likeNarrator tells you why the cops do this.
1 likeAndy Sipowicz would never have given him a blanket. And forget about the donut. No way. A smack is what he'd get
0 likesI remember going to jail for the nite for possession. I was freezing with gym shorts and a tank top. I asked the officer for a blanket and he just laughed in my face. This was a holding cell.
0 likes@Joyful trees and he complains about being cold and hungry haha š
0 likesShould have given him some warm milk and a pacifier too.
0 likesBreaks my heart that if little Tori didn't forget those ear rings at school she may still be with us.
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Her mother felt that too. We all wished she didn't go back, but her innocent heart saw no harm in returning to get them.
28 likesNo. If sick people like this didn't exist she would still be here. It has nothing to do with her. Stop normalizing crimes like this.
12 likes@peachyevren she's not normalizing the crime like that, relax. Sickos like this guy exist regardless of how you want the world to work, to apprehend them before they commit a crime is difficult, she's just highlighting how an act as innocent as forgetting something and going to go get it led to poor Tori in this particular situation being subjected to what she was and then killed.
26 likes@peachyevren you donāt sound very smart
3 likesI know her mom taught her not to follow strangers. But as a mom of two girls I am so frightened right now. The number one thing to teach them is to say āIāll tell my mommy!ā if any stranger comes up to them and give them a toy phone that looks real. š¤·āāļø
1 likeDetective: āI donāt think youāre some kind of monster.ā
430 likesDetective under his breath: I know you are š„ø
some pencils don't have erasers. like the ones they let you use for a serious test.
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Thatās a very good analogy.
0 likesThe only reason why he's crying is because he knows, what happens to ones like him in prison.
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Hopefully they will give him a nice warm welcome innthe roughest and toughest block of the prison. I believe they will welcome him nicely.
34 likesThey're gonna give him the chomo shuffle
8 likes@Horizons Skylight sadly , he was transferred in a healing rehabilitation house , with lowest security and is able to have weed and drugs . Our justice system is broken
8 likes@jf 5-mars noooo please don't say that š fr?
1 likeYes poor guy! his farts will only sound like a gust of wind instead of your usual crackling sound ...
0 likes@jordan bishop they give you weed and drugs in a Canadian prison? Why?
1 like@jf 5-mars what the fuck
0 likesYep, scared because he got caught. Monster.
0 likesI really hate that the American justice system relies on the brutality of inmates to dole out punishment. Subjecting America citizens to rapes and beatings is fucked up and inhumane. We need to bring back the gallows and the firing squad. Stop wasting money housing monsters and just kill them off immediately. It's ultimately the more humane thing to do.
1 likeThe tube stake boogie.
0 likesDo they get to share a cell with underaged orphans?
0 likesHonestly, I didn't like the Investigators approach. It's too much talking
0 likesThere is an alarming number of Michaels committing these crimes. I feel like this is a bad representation of us good Michaels.
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Cool Michael time!
17 likesRight?? Why is it always Michael
10 likes3 days after this comment, Michael O'Connell was arrested for a double homicide
100 likes@Eddy figures
16 likesgood thing i'm not named michael
6 likesTheres even a videogame that has a bad Michael
13 likes@KebabMan micheal afton
4 likesThe case of Michael O'Connell
26 likesIāve got my eye on you Michael!
8 likesAnd Russellās...
3 likesNot all Michael are bad one of my best friends is a Michael Greta guy
1 like@Eddy hahaha ššš classic
0 likesYeah I'm not happy about it either š
4 likesThank you Michael. Us Michaelās need more positive representation in the media.
8 likesWatch Joel Michael Guy Jr., shocking!
0 likesMichael jack... Wait.
1 likeTrue enough mate
0 likesJoseph Michael Staline, Michael Hitler (adolph was a second name), Michael Capone, and so on...Michael Harvey Oswald also, people forget about him. truely alarming.
6 likesfeels bad man :-(
0 likesI think the late Michael Jackson would have agreed. ^^
0 likesWelp time to witchhunt the Michaels, get your pitchforks folks.
0 likes:(
1 likeTrust me, being called Karen isn't great right now either.....
5 likesLmfaoooo the coalition of Michaels have come together to condemn these dangerous Michaels who do not represent the true nature of the Michaelist Michaels
4 likesWe got our eye on you Michael
1 likeDrejka, Dunn, Rafferty...
0 likesWhen Canadians are born we roll a D20, if you get a 17 your name becomes mike (roll a 7 and it's Steve)
2 likes@P.H. R wtf š
1 likeExcept, there are no good Michaels
0 likes@Karen Vaughan feel sry for u š
0 likeslol, i was thinking this aswell...! one episode the killer and the victim were both mikes
1 like@P.H. R Or Chairman Mike Mao...
0 likesConsidering how common the name "Michael" is, I'd say it's really not that surprising that many criminals have that name. A lot of them are named John, James, Christopher, and other common names too.
1 likeYou are a good one :> ššŖ
1 likeTo your information there are a lot of mikes
0 likesI don't trust this guy
0 likesWhat did you do ? Tell us ? š¤£
0 likesWhen a michael self proclaim he is good, i cant help to think otherwise
0 likesKinda ironic considering what angel bears that name
0 likesEvil evil pair rip lil Tory
0 likesI love Canadian interrogators; so damn polite- yet madly effective!!!
91 likesThis detective could bullshit in the olympics
1570 likesāYou havenāt touched your donutā š
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I bout died š¤£š¤£
15 likes"That's why pencils have erasers." š
75 likesDonāt bullshit a bullshitter
7 likes"you haven't touched your donut" might be the most Canadian shade ever
22 likesScully's Tie I donāt get it can you explain pls lmao
0 likes@Esther X Canadians are stereotypically overpolite, disappointedly pointing out to a hungry murderer that he's barely touched his food just sounds like a really Canadian thing to do, idk how else to put it lol
22 likesāYou donāt know whether to shake, shit or puke!āā šš¤£
8 likes@Scully's Tie thank youuuu!
0 likesFreakān Joe Parra
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0 likesWanna know something. I think I lived next door to a predator. I remember when my guardian was standing and talking to him across the fence and I was 8 years old too. He looked at me and smiled and said he was going to marry me. I felt so creeped out. My guardian just laughed. One day after school I was walking home and I heard a honk and it was him and he slowed down and offered to drive me home. I declined and he kind of still insisted. The reasons why I declined is because I was creeped out and also I was quite capable of walking home since my house was just around the corner. Well my neighbour went and told my guardians and asked why I wouldn't get in his truck and couldn't trust him. He was offended but i thought i was in trouble for hurting his feelings. Instead they applauded me and in the same breath told me i could trust him. It gives me the creeps til this day. Predators are everywhere and parents need to be more vigilant with their children safety. Also teach your children to follow their instincts. It could very well save their lives. This is just to sad. Never let your guard down...ever.
26 likescan i just point out how funny it is that a huge and extremely crucial aspect of these interrogations fully rely on rolly chairs?? like the closing distance tactic is super important for psychological pressure and the only way for this to be done subtlety is with rolly chairs hehe
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And the way some of these detectives move around and lean back and forth, those chairs are doing a ton of work.
29 likesI almost think that the detectives deliberately get chairs that squeak or groan when leaning back on them 40:28 or moving, just to unsettle the suspect, or make a point. Unnerving. Lol
14 likesSo you know what to do: get a lawyer, disable the rolly chair when they are out of the room
11 likesI imagine a 5 minute family guy sketch where the interrogator is trying to shuffle a heavy non rolly chair forward... only to fall over and do the leg thing
2 likesLol thank u for this
0 likesStories like this ... I don't blame the dad who shot and killed his son's abductor in front of cameras and cops.
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I see you aren't a fan of donut theory
16 likesIt's rare to find such vigilante justice, we always have the mass shooters and random rapes, it's about time I hear some Boondock Saint type news...
35 likesLink?
0 likes@Daniel Swithenbank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeOugJPnDAM sons karate instructor had been molesting him for years, and kidnapped him eventually. When the son was found and returned he told his father everything that had been happening. I would've reacted the same way
65 likesI praise him and wish more would do it
9 likesOoh snap, that was well executed tbh š , thanks for the link.
5 likesI just found out about him. Nobody blamed him!! he got out clean (almost)
3 likesthe best part about that story is that the dad didn't receive any prison time
22 likesAnthony Ward I feel like beating the hell out of them and breaking some bones would be worse, dying is easy dying is an escape
0 likesOnly acceptable response from the law in that case would be āunderstandable have a nice dayā
8 likes@Comicbookhauls88 anyone know what the father's sentence was
0 likesStories like that are rare now, they shouldn't be. That stuff should still be going on. Nobody even knows about it anymore.
0 likesI bet that dude that shot his kids abductor is treated like a king in prison. At least he should be
0 likes@XKMMx 213 He probably would be, I read that he was acquitted and faced no charges since he was friends with the police chief, no idea if it's true.
1 likeWHYā¦JUST WHY
1 likePoor wittle Mikey needs his donut and blankie arrrghhhhhhā¦hope these creeps never see daylight.
0 likesThe investigator's monologue skills.. holy hell. Imagine his podcast
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It's a call in show where people get on the phone to confess all their crimes
8 likes@The Paradise Paradox A confessional booth for people of all religions!
4 likesItās entirely possible
0 likesAnyone that likes the sound of their of own voice.
0 likesDamn this cop could smooth talk sandpaper into a Kleenex.
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Chloie Kwirant hahaha! Too funny!
0 likesLol
0 likesYou're proud of that one, aren't you?
2 likesbars
9 likesWhat does this even mean?
6 likes@Kayla Marie he talked sandpaper into being a tissue
6 likes@ahpacific why are you making fun of an actually funny and original comment for once???
5 likes@ChOkKlaaD - Jhhs āęćććć I think he's playfully jabbing at the cheesiness of the joke
0 likes@ahpacific Welp Iāve gotten over 1k likes on this comment so Iād say yeah, Iām pretty proud of it lol
1 likeDidn't accomplish anything tho
0 likesToo good! Love this comment š
0 likesLOL!
0 likesIād much rather be the ābad copā here. Iād have a really hard time pretending not to find this monstrosity disgusting. He cries and hides under his blanket, but he showed no mercy for that little girl. I definitely enjoyed watching the ābad copā role here.
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If you'd been doing this for as long as this man clearly has and gone through the same education and training it would be a lot easier to be as relaxed as he's being.
33 likes@A-Bomb Mori oh, I donāt doubt that for a second. And he got his verbal licks in, so to speak, at the end of the interrogation. And the whole time I was watching that I was thinking āgood on him, Iām glad he got to tell this scumbag what he really thought of him.ā Make no mistake, I understood why the āgood copā detective had to do what he did, and I admire him for his restraint. I was merely saying that I would most likely be unable to show such restraint, but Iām not a trained interrogator, either.
64 likesand thats why you are not sitting there and investigate/judge about peoples behavior because you are biased by your emotions.
8 likesYou can't be "the bad cop" when you want to hear the murderer explaining his cause and reason why he did it. This might give him a shorter sentence since there is no more proof/evidence or statement that can be used against him in curt or in what kind of jail he goes to. Do you want a child murderer and abuser in shorter terms in jail than usual? go ahead. I don't want that
@Bloody Kastiel wtf?? you're taking the comment way out of context. what is your issue? The commentor was just saying how they were enraged by the actions of this disgusting man. your comment proved nothing
41 likesSgt. Jim Smyth is legendary
3 likesYeah I reallly really wouldnāt be able to himself would love to torture people are who like this, not even peopleā¦ worse than monsters
0 likes@Bloody Kastiel You took some huge leaps to decipher the comment the way you did, buddy
8 likes@Katie The hell?
11 likesbehavioural science are not cops.
0 likesItās not so much as the bad cop as itās a tool used for interviews. The end goal is the same. The tools used maybe different from time to time. But if that dude needs to think Iām his best friend in the entire world to tell me what happened and possibly find the girl alive. Iām about to be best friends with a suspected murderer. This channel highlights some very basic tools used in interviews but the examples are like watching Michael Jordan make a foul shot. Itās just a foul shot but an expert makes it look effortless.
2 likes@Katie what?
4 likes@Paul Carpenter seriously, JCS didnāt go into it
0 likesDo that sht where I live you wouldn't leave that room alive
1 likeWaiting for this comment !
0 likesyeah, you do got a point. But on the other hand, the "good cop" reveals this weird facade the killers think they can gather any type of security, comfort, or validation. Showing they literally care about themselves, and are only upset that they're caught. Though bad cop will always be interesting.
0 likesI donāt relate to comments like this. Makes me think Iād be a good interrogator. I couldnāt imagine anything more fun to do in that scenario than play with their mind and get them to destroy their lives. The pleasantry seems easy with that goal in mind.
0 likes"You haven't touched your donut" most Canadian interrogation I've ever heard.
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Was lookin for this comment šš¤£ made me giggle, like a parent āyou havnt touched your donutā š¤£
60 likeshe even says it with such a canadian accent
83 likes"you haven't even touched yer DOEnut"
*doughnut to make it more authentic
35 likesIt's even Horton's too.
22 likesA 3 week old donut from a smoke filled Robin's is too good for this guy.
I thought the same thing š©š¤£
3 likesNo then it would have been "You havent touched your maple syrup"
4 likesyeah if i was about to go to prison for life i wouldnt have much appetite lmao. But again i would never murder a child or any human being... So i think he deserves being uncomfortable.
1 like@ABDULLAH THE BUTCHER ā”ļøā”ļø ššš
1 likehe also said aboot
4 likesAs a Canadian I can proudly agree.
5 likesAs an Ontarian I can agree with this lmaoo
3 likes@sunbu fuck yeah my brother
3 likes@grungepen y e s lmao timmys man
3 likes@sunbu Timmy's the ultimate choice š¤
1 likeDoonut**
3 likes@Hercules Rockefeller, Esq. I always liked Robins better. Maybe I'm just strange though...
1 likeI laughed out loud when he said that šš
1 likeIn the States you don't leave Krispy Kream uneaten.
1 likeā@Annette In the States you don't leave anything uneaten! Hiyooo
2 likes@Kristjana ā
1 likeSome Tim hortons donuts as wellš god bless Canada eh š
1 like@Raccoon Nation š
0 likes@Rob Mckay don't know either. Krispy Kreme is great, too.
0 likesI feel bad about it but the words playing in my head were: "What's wrong babe, you haven't touched your doughnut š"
0 likes@Hercules Rockefeller, Esq. Timmy Ho's !!!!!
1 like@sunbu Timmy Ho's !!!!!
0 likesI love this guy so much
0 likesor maybe its because interrogations are nothing but a mind game?
0 likesGod i dont even think of Krispy Kreme. I can make that happen.
1 likeFun fact: Charlize Theron ate all KK when she had to gain 30lbs for the role of Aileen Wuornos in Monster......cant argue with that reasoning....š
Babe whatās wrong? Youāve barely touched your rapport building donut :(
2 likesThe second I started reading this is the second he started saying that
1 likešš¤£
0 likesthat women literally heard her cry and didnāt do shit... sheās so horrible
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Why did she even help lure her to this guy??
18 likes@Jacob Lewis how can she be a psychopath when she was that emotional?
1 like@Rainy T how can someone who isn't a psychopath go along with luring a little girl into a car, knowing what their boyfriend plans on doing to the little girl? Didn't she stab the poor little girl? Do you think psychopaths aren't able to act in certain emotional ways, in order to make their victims feel safe and not threatened?
50 likes@Rainy T she was emotional, in the interrogation room, cause the was caught.
34 likes@Jacob Lewis it was a tragic case and that man and lady are sickos, they knew they were done for. But the lady did share actual feelings, upon realizing how terrible everything turned out.. but the man who did it didnāt share any - thatās what makes a true psychopath.
4 likes@Rainy T you are technically correct but I just can't see how any woman could lure a little girl in like that, full well knowing what was about to happen to the little girl, and not have psychopathic tendencies. Not to mention her also stabbing the poor 8 year old girl.
12 likesShe is even more horrible and involved in the crime than the video alone lets us believe.
32 likesI copy pasted some comments below.
"For anyone that might be feeling an ounce of sympathy for this 18 year old crying her eyes out, it's worth noting that she later, in prison, confessed to delivering the hammer blows that killed Victoria. Don't spare her the rage you have for the man."
āDefence lawyer Derstine attacked McClintic's credibility during cross-examination, noting she had a history of violent incidents. McClintic stabbed one man, left her adoptive mother partially blind following an assault and put a small dog in a microwave when she was a child.ā
I read horrible as humble and was like, wtfā
1 like@Rainy T she confessed later on in prison that she delt the killing blow
5 likesShe did do something. She finished her off with the hammer. The emotions of the situation apparently inspired her to commit rather than stand aside ambivalent, the latter being more uncomfortable.
3 likesEmpathy, after all, is only about how you feel. Thereās no reason for it to inspire only positive behavior. Usually this only means selective dehumanization of out-groups. (Youād go insane if you actually felt for everyone to whom you owed consideration.) In Terriās case, however, she directly killed someone in order to not have to feel for her.
@Black Rebel Oh, Iām not even remotely arguing that sheās in anyway a decent person. Just that empathy is overrated and often makes you a terrible person.
3 likesAs to her leading the girl to the car, knowing full well what would happen, I take it that it was just all abstract for her at the beginning. That doesnāt mitigate anything. It just means she wrongly believed she could handle it.
@Rainy T psychopaths can also be great actors. If they were genuine tears, it was because she was caught. Not for the kid.
9 likesWell in the end she was the one who dealt the killing blows with the hammer
0 likesShe also killed the little girl itās in the video
0 likes@Great Minds101 yea Iām great at fake crying I can cry at command
0 likesShe killed the girl
0 likes@Great Minds101 but a genuine psychopath does not show any human emotions whatsoever. They can mimic it, sure, but they can't genuinely produce it. If she "broke" during that interview, she probably isn't a psychopath. She's sick, or maybe deranged, or definitely messed up, even a piece of garbage human being, but probably not a pyschopath.
0 likes@Jacob Lewis one thing people need to realize. Horrible people do horrible things. There doesnt have to have a mental issue to choose to do something like this.
0 likesI love it, I would play the bad cop. The guy has been playing all along the sad victim thinking it would work and then the bad cop says "Get off your security blanket and act like a man"
0 likesāThatās why pencils have erasers... we all make mistakes.ā Iām stealing that line for when Iām a dad lol
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So if my pencil doesnāt have an eraser I wonāt make mistakes? Cool!
5 likes@twilit ha ha, nope it means your mistakes are permanent and laid bare for everyone to see.
14 likesIāve heard that phrase before, but never in the context of child abuse and murder!
6 likes@Steve S True, he was using it to try to minimize the offense to get the suspect to confess
2 likesI first heard that phrase on the Simpson's and use it all the time.
0 likesCarpenter pencils don't have erasers
0 likesi thought it was a good move because it diminished the crime making him more likely to communicate
1 likeytho some obviously do
0 likesAlso used in Fleabag :'')
0 likesIt's laughable, honestly. Seeing this guy's crime consume him completely to the point that he reverts to such childlike behavior. Disgustingly hilarious.
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you are a bit naive here, the crime doesnĀ“t consume him at all, not for a single moment, only the fact he got caught does bother him, that is the way the psychopath mind works, zero remorse, zero empathy.
17 likesThe child like behaviour is nothing but a smoke screen play designed to make you think he is having a hard time, he is only having a hard time having to face and listen to the officers while hungry, not because of what he did at all.
@guachingman Bingo ;)
3 likesI found his behaviour annoying.
1 like@Tyler Drainville Exactly. That's why he said "I'm too sick to talk." He doesn't mean he has a cold, he's dope sick.
3 likesSomeone also pointed out in the comments that heās detoxing off oxy during this interview, so his snivelling, nausea and blanket clutching is partly a symptom of that
0 likesI guess this detective never heard of the "Pause Technique".
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Underrated
77 likeshahahahahaaaaaaaaa you obviously have been watching these videos....the pause technique is from chris watson right ? love from Canada
110 likesLmaoo literally XD
3 likesgreat one
4 likes@rain tree watts*
4 likesHe was doing the opposite, as our narrator explained
61 likesI think pause only works when the suspect seems less comfortable in silence. This guy seems like talking makes him actively uncomfortable
129 likesits the Canadian way eh
6 likesI can ride my bike with no handle barsss
3 likes@lol boi I can keep rhythm with no metronome.
3 likes@jcmick84 wait I missed it can you time stamp when he said that?
0 likes@Blooper Dooper no
1 like@Blooper Dooper itās at 18:08
1 likeEveryone knows about the "Pause Technique", but no one expects the "Blitzkrieg Rambling Technique"
25 likes@SkƄnerost LMAO
0 likesššš
0 likeshe is like a child. the detective is like a parents, but spamming stuff on him.
3 likeshe want to chill, the detective dont let him.
My wife never heard of it either. š
1 like@tufert well... you better make sure your wife doesn't see this or you might be sleeping on the couch for awhile.
0 likesLOL
1 like31:28
0 likesThe investigator saying at the end, that Tori was excited to have her friends over because her mom just redecorated her room, that just got me š Iām currently redecorating my daughters room and she talks every day about how excited she is to show her friends š
167 likesi havenāt eaten since noon iām a poor wittle babyā¦ also can i have my blanky?
2 likesPretty impressed by the interrogator being able to speak that guy like he's an actual human
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@Olli Rolli except him
2 likesWell thatās not a very fun fact...
1 likeYou mustāve meant funDAMENTAL fact.
Olli Rolli donāt defend him you weirdo
3 likes@Olli Rolli Don't justify a predator over someones comment
0 likes@Olli Rolli bro what? That's totally diffrent thing, you cannot be serious??
0 likesThis investigator is incredible.
81 likesThe "babbling" and word choice he uses is all in reference to the suspects life without directing anything at him.
Great stuff Love the content !
"So it was nice meeting ya, Mikey. Enjoy the rest of your life. This is the kind of room you're gonna be spending it in"
4774 likesFucking based
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@SweetTea No thanks.
184 likesbased on what
39 likes@sonjifunny12 based on what
78 likes@SweetTea Imagine asking "based on what" in 2021.
318 likesThis guy was born yesterday.
@YouCensored lmaooooo
11 likesHahahaā¦
4 likesfacts
@YouCensored that's the joke
11 likes@Sir Soaponrope listen kid...i dont have much time....it's based...* cough * its based on.....
94 likesThat investigator is a pro, he twists these peoples minds up like silly string lol. He did the Russell Williams interrogation too. Heās talented as hell.
46 likesBased? Did you just want to say that? That was not an example of being based. Being based is being red pilled. So confused rn
8 likes@J Leezy what???
18 likes@SweetTea It's just a meme. Learn to chill out man.
17 likesoh! itās based on [gunshots]
7 likesuhh helllooooo? ring ring this is the federal bureau of basedivation. please come meet us at the based department building with chad and sigma male memes. we have some seriously based allegations about you.
30 likesBASED god
3 likes@J Leezy I think pedos getting life is pretty based/redpilled are you confused also since I canāt tell if some people are actually that dumb but itās based (on facts)
10 likes@F Blacks Thanks, I'll be sure to remember this fruitful advice. Especially coming from someone named "F Blacks"
5 likes@SweetTea take this L
3 likesNot just based, but full on FACTS
4 likes@sonjifunny12 your mom
1 likeBased giga chad
3 likes@SweetTea
0 likeswhat if they just
didnt
@YouCensored i was born in 1997 and dont follow social media jargon. so im not even sure what based means. like lil b the rapper? the based god? more than likely has to do with highschool if were being honest. there was a ton of shit me and the guys used to say that no one would really understand but after highschool and college your life isnt necessarily spent following obscure trends online.
4 likes@Matt B 24 yos are still considered gen Zš what are you talking about
2 likes@Isabella Sun what does my generation have to do with the term based and what i just said?
1 like@Matt B youāre using your age as being old as a reason for not understanding a pretty regular lingo. even though 24 isnāt old, and based has been around since you were 20
0 likes@Isabella Sun no im using my age to show im young and still dont understand the saying
0 likes@Isabella Sun the comment i replied to was using the example of being old not understanding the saying, but i explained how im only 24 and i still dont know what it means, so yeah my whole point was that being young doesnt mean you know what it means
4 likesI love how this entire comment string is boomers not knowing what "based" is.
5 likes@YouCensored I had to Google what it means. I kept thinking people forgot an "I". Ya'll need to stop creating words lol. We got enough.
2 likesI donāt understand why people are being so riled up by the OP using the phrase āfucking basedā. I am 53 years old and have never heard of that term but my IQ level (of reasonably average) figured it meant āā¦ based on XYZā. Then I just did a quick google search, saw that I was right and suddenly Iām apparently current again š Relax people. Thereās lots of different ages watching these videos and everyoneās allowed to speak the way they want to as long as they stay polite! And, by the way, swearing is not impolite IMO!
6 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind based on xyz? As in based on last nights dinner? Or based on the book? I don't think that's what it meant in this context. Being based has something to do with knowing the true purpose of things, or not being a sheep I think? I might even be wrong honestly
1 like@hell I'd say most people asking about it aren't boomers tho. My step father might be a boomer and he doesn't even look at yt comments, it's prob mid 20 to 30 yeR Olds I'm 24 and I don't even get it. Lot of 0eople that aren't boomers don't follow this kinda shit
1 like@Akumati except for the comment above yours which is declared gen z
0 likes@SweetTea you said that wrong it's not
1 like"it's a dumb and irrelevant "saying" childish in fact"
it should be
"it's a dumb and irrelevant "saying", childish, in fact"
I hope you realize that.
What does fucking based mean? Just wondering if itās slang I havenāt heard of yet
0 likesSounds like Rust Cohle from True detective
0 likesCanadian brutality is the best brutality <3
0 likes@SweetTea š
0 likesAnd prison pilled
0 likes@bingus enthusiast rotflmao.....im dying...
0 likes@J Leezy Saying that youāre āredpilledā is technically just saying āI spend way too much time on QAnonā
2 likes@YouCensored I don't know what "based" means either!? Clue us in... I was born in 1989, what did I miss?
0 likes@J Leezy Can you explain what " based" means? People have called me this a few times on Twitter
0 likeslil B based God is where it's from yall don't even know
0 likes@hell thank you for that explanation. I had no idea what that meant and nobody else explained it like a normal person. I'm 34, and I'm not up to date on new lingo. I just don't use the language when I speak and don't care to. Whether writing something online or in person.
0 likes@JB It was the detective (Jim Smyth) that interviewed Terry Lynn McLintock who interviewed Williams.
0 likes@hell I am staying on topic. You just refuse to see the connections in my argument.
0 likes@SweetTea this dude forgot that language changes
0 likes@Sounds of a Silent Mind that isnāt at all what it means or how itās used lol
0 likes@Otto B. Kilt It depends on what country you're from when it comes to the meaning.
0 likes@Otto B. Kilt are you alright man? 24 doesn't actually qualify as a child. Your talking to someone who plays nerdy video games, who reads high fantasy and sci fi, I design and construct electrical systems, I like building computers. I'm the last type of person that would say whatever you just said. I don't follow weird trends and slang like some kid in high-school. I'm a drug addict gone sober, I've seen plenty of shit that would take the child out of me. Not gonna try and demean, or assume things of you like you just did to me either. Thanks for the assumptions.
0 likes@friezathenonceslayer another comment that makes no sense. Look into what those words mean bro
0 likes@J Leezybro that comment was blue pilled goddamn
0 likes@SuperBROKEN81 nah we gonna change em anyway cope blue-pilled boomer
0 likes@sonjifunny12 based on deez nuts
0 likes@barnabyssjones not born in 40's or 50's. Why is it always some scrub using the word boomer who is softer than a feather?
0 likesbased af
0 likesAt first glance, someone might think he feels bad since he's crying, but listening for more than half a second shows that he's crying for no one other than himself... He's just sad that he got caught, not because he assaulted and murdered an innocent little girl.
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This video was hard to stomach... I actually got nauseous hearing all of it...
12 likesHe didn't murder Tori.
1 like@Erik Larson oh? Call the detectives up then I'm sure they'd love to hear your story
8 likes@damion short ive heard that the woman was the killer
3 likes@Amir King545 he is still guilty either way even though the women killed the kid the guy still raped the kid.
11 likesHe's also in opiate withdrawal
4 likes@damion short You didnt have to be rude
4 likes@damion short but he didn't though
4 likesEdit: he's still guilty of kidnapping and rape.
@SNW 33 Why would you say such a weird thing, creeper
1 likeYeah hes dopesick its the worst feeling in the world your hot your cold your eyes water you start sniiffling runny nose your legs wont stop moving like spiders are crawling all over you and thats just the start of it!!
1 likeHe's probably crying purely from the withdrawals. I can imagine he is completely numb to the situation he is in.
2 likesImagine you are falling out of an airplane without a parachute and you suddenly realise you are missing an arm. Any normal situation you will be freaking out about your arm. But here you are only thinking about your impending fall.
This is what this man is feeling, the cop is his arm and the withdrawal is his fall. That explains why he is also so quiet and does not respond. He, in his own mind, has bigger and more important things to worry about at the moment.
how ca n you tell?
0 likesI cried more listening to this than he did for doing it
0 likesThatās why pencils have erasers!!!!..!
0 likes"you know what a psychopath is mike?"
2379 likes"I have never met one"
"I just met one tonight"
legend
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Keeping it šÆ
31 likes@Sara T Jim Smyth IS a legend, perfect description for him! Bernardo and Williams he also interrogated (shows just how good he is at what he does).
79 likesHe said the PERFECT š words to that POS right before he left the room. That had to feel great for him, as it did for me too! Jim Smyth š
Sara T canadian detectives are pretty damn good from what Iāve seen...
47 likes51:33 so funny
14 likesHe wouldn't actually meet the criteria for APD
3 likes@louise psychopaths don't feel shame or guilt
49 likes@That Guy thats correct, but I don't believe he is a psychopath
7 likes@louise It's sort of up in the air. Even after this interrogation, we don't know a whole lot about this guy to make that call.
14 likesIt would appear he uses the blanket for emotional security (as Detective Jim Smyth points out), which a psychopath would not need. My bet is that Jim Smyth was just trying to verbally slap him a little when he called him a psychopath.
Funny enough though, Jim Smyth has in fact interrogated a psychopath before: Russell Williams.
The detective who called him a psychopath wasn't implying a clinical diagnoses..he was just disgusted, exhausted and done with the guy, understandably so .diagnosing psychopathy requires quite a bit of background investigation etc, no way any of us could determine that from this video.. just glad it seems to have ended justly
28 likesHe obliterated him<3
2 likesSeriously, I only knew Jim Smyth from the Colonel Williams interrogation (obviously had mad respect for him after that). But seeing this one just cemented him as the GOAT.
14 likesSara T BUUUURN
1 likeEnjoy the rest of your life , itll be in rooms just like this.
5 likes@TehSatisfaction yep. It's called science and does more good for the world than repressing the thoughts and feelings by avoidance. So in short such conversation is a good thing.
9 likes@TehSatisfaction that actually isnt the point of the conversation ... Leave the heavy thinking to those capable of comprehending what's said "yo"
3 likesAdults are talking now scram kiddo
@That Guy Is it just that you're offended that I don't recognize the value in the brain cycles you invested to reply to this thread?
1 like@That Guy Gotta work on figuring out why your character is so toxic, man. Good luck.
2 likes@That Guy Wait you weren't trolling?
3 likesš„
2 likes@TehSatisfaction congratulations, you have won
1 likeSavage š
1 like@TehSatisfaction LMFAO "my mom says I'm the smartest!!"
2 likes@Kevin gable Gable you like your own comments , so....
2 likes@stancexpunks 100% Agreed
0 likes@BLTN you really stuck it to me there, big guy. How long did you agonize over that beauty?
0 likes@Kevin gable Gable what ?
1 like@Kevin gable Gable Mean
1 likeSara T I like when Detective Smyth just stares at this psycho making him nervous. Hahaha. I also liked when he said he's having a good time putting him through grief. Detective Smyth also did a really good job interrogating Russell Williams. IMO he's the best interrogator in all of these videos.
2 likesIve seen many many Canadian detectives interogate and unlike americans they not supposed to lie to the suspects but theese guys are super effective super professional they should b the model for the world
4 likes@stancexpunks Lot of Americans, British, French and many others share this kind of training and technique.
1 likeMost violent criminals are fighting with their hands tied behind their backs.
@louise Psychopaths don't feel shame, they don't feel remorse, you can't reason with them and they never stop. The garbage needs to be tossed.
1 likeKevin gable Gable an IQ of 90 is solidly average. What is this, insult lite? Teh Satisfactionās initial comment had more insight than all the others in this thread combined. The rest was just beautiful trolling.
3 likesSo, please see yourself out. And while youāre at it, 2018 wants their Logan Paul meme back, so if you could return it, thatād be great.
@Ellie #Putin&HisBishTrump š TinyPeePees You make me blush š
1 like@Ellie #Putin&HisBishTrump š TinyPeePees And OMG, if Jim Can't Swim was Jim Smyth, I would die as well.. We can dream right? Seems somewhat unlikely, but the content is very insightful at least.
1 like@BLTN Lol kinda true.. It's the mystery, man. Who is this secret guy creating very intelligent and insightful videos??
1 like@TehSatisfaction I want to know who he is as well , his identity shouldnt be hard to uncover if someone really wanted to.
0 likesā@BLTN Yeah but you'd have to be driven by a kind of perverse desire to actually do it
0 likes@TehSatisfaction Agreed... Anyone watch gameranx ? Falcon is another mystery that aggravates me
0 likesBLTN
1 likeyes, Iām proudly gay all day for Jim. You should, too.
And nooo, please nobody doxx Jim! I have a strong feeling that this Youtube channel could royally screw his real job. He doesnāt even use his own voice to narrate. We should just enjoy the enigma that he is, kinda like Banksy. Maybe he can do a face reveal once he retires š
This investigator knows his shit..
1 like@louise The detective should've just called him, "You damn psycho"! Edit: But yet again they're looking for the nail in the coffin. A confession.
0 likesthat is some Horatio Caine sH8l right here man!
1 like@stancexpunks like on Karla Homolkas case?
0 likesYes sure was legendary comment v )))
0 likesThe self control of the detective at the end to gently shut the door after softly saying how he feels is remarkable to me.
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The detective is a superior being and behaves as such.
3 likesI can't wait to see James Charles up here!!!!
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