Parents, please <i>PLEASE</i> drill it into your children’s heads not to go with strangers for candy, puppies, soda, anything.

Parents, please _PLEASE_ drill it into your children’s heads not to go with strangers for candy, puppies, soda, anything.

@squid you must have been quite the exhausting kid. Squid, lets go - NO! ONLY WITH MY MUMMY OR DADDY!

@squid you must have been quite the exhausting kid. Squid, lets go - NO! ONLY WITH MY MUMMY OR DADDY!

My mom has a friend who even taught her daughters to not let any male (including family and relatives) to touch her without consent, and go anywhere without the presence of another adult female she trusts.

My mom has a friend who even taught her daughters to not let any male (including family and relatives) to touch her without consent, and go anywhere without the presence of another adult female she trusts.

My mom drilled into my head that she would never, ever under any circumstance ask even her closest friends to pick me up from somewhere without informing me first. If someone tells me that either of my parents have "gotten into an accident", I get to the hospital myself. Public transportation aka, a rickshaw. No way in hell am I getting into anyone's car without my parents knowing about it. <br>This case was horrible. I don't wish anything bad on people, ever, but i hope the prisoners make sure these two monsters don't even get to live out half their sentences

My mom drilled into my head that she would never, ever under any circumstance ask even her closest friends to pick me up from somewhere without informing me first. If someone tells me that either of my parents have "gotten into an accident", I get to the hospital myself. Public transportation aka, a rickshaw. No way in hell am I getting into anyone's car without my parents knowing about it.
This case was horrible. I don't wish anything bad on people, ever, but i hope the prisoners make sure these two monsters don't even get to live out half their sentences

@Jake Rosendahl the “help me find my lost puppy” thing was used on me as a kid, scary. I was told to just never go with a stranger but I wasn’t told about the lines they use

@Jake Rosendahl the “help me find my lost puppy” thing was used on me as a kid, scary. I was told to just never go with a stranger but I wasn’t told about the lines they use

Also a very important thing is that you should tell kids that a woman could also be a bad stranger. A lot of rapists lure children with the help of women, but for some reason a lot of us have this image that we should be suspicious of men only.

Also a very important thing is that you should tell kids that a woman could also be a bad stranger. A lot of rapists lure children with the help of women, but for some reason a lot of us have this image that we should be suspicious of men only.

When I was 8 I got lost really far from my neighborhood at like 7am and asked someone for a ride home and he took me. He lowkey looked like a weirdo but thankfully he was a good guy. My parents were so mad

When I was 8 I got lost really far from my neighborhood at like 7am and asked someone for a ride home and he took me. He lowkey looked like a weirdo but thankfully he was a good guy. My parents were so mad

@Jake Rosendahl yup, me too. Loved puppies and candy in that order. I lived in a small village (300 people) in northern Germany and hitchhiked as a teenager. My teacher picked me up and my neighbors told my mother, who was fierce...🙂

@Jake Rosendahl yup, me too. Loved puppies and candy in that order. I lived in a small village (300 people) in northern Germany and hitchhiked as a teenager. My teacher picked me up and my neighbors told my mother, who was fierce...🙂

@Jake Rosendahl <br>Same, my parents fiercely enforced being "good obedient kids" to adults since they were both very social and active in our community and meeting new people was a constant.

@Jake Rosendahl
Same, my parents fiercely enforced being "good obedient kids" to adults since they were both very social and active in our community and meeting new people was a constant.

Absolutely necessary especially since a lot of kids are taught to be polite and obedient towards adults. My parents told me how to say no if someone tried to talk to me, but did not tell me what to do if someone hops in the car with you and pulls off. Most terryfying moment of my life

I remember when I was a little girl someone tried to get me to come with them to find their lost dog. It was right in my neighborhood too just up the street from my house. I'm grateful that my mom and teachers told me to not fall for it.

I remember when I was a little girl someone tried to get me to come with them to find their lost dog. It was right in my neighborhood too just up the street from my house. I'm grateful that my mom and teachers told me to not fall for it.

Even if the person knows your kids name. That's what my mom always told me. Some sick fuck could've overheard your name at some point and then some day come up to you and say " (Name) Your parents have been in an accident, they asked me to go pick you up! Here come follow me to my car"

Wow. I am worried that kids are easily manipulated. Best to role play and practice tactics with children.

Wow. I am worried that kids are easily manipulated. Best to role play and practice tactics with children.

@Angelina 🪴 We need to educate them why, though.

@Angelina 🪴 We need to educate them why, though.

I have a 15 year old daughter sf course she is older takes the bus to school and work during the day . My hart bleeds for the little girl and her parents

I have a 15 year old daughter sf course she is older takes the bus to school and work during the day . My hart bleeds for the little girl and her parents

@Pepsi Entitled? Don’t you mean dependent? Every young child is dependent on an adult. The little girl that was murdered was 8 years old. Wtf are you on? 🤨

@Pepsi Entitled? Don’t you mean dependent? Every young child is dependent on an adult. The little girl that was murdered was 8 years old. Wtf are you on? 🤨

I was gonna say this the parents unspoken of are partialy to blame.

I was gonna say this the parents unspoken of are partialy to blame.

@roberts1711 You know, something just occurred to me: parents should tell their kids NOT to go with strangers! I'm proud of myself and this novel thought.

@roberts1711 You know, something just occurred to me: parents should tell their kids NOT to go with strangers! I'm proud of myself and this novel thought.

@Cotton Candy Kawaii so true, sometimes rural areas have less structured activity or daycare to keep kids busy while parents work so often kids can go home and bounce around the neighborhood, leaving them susceptible.

@Cotton Candy Kawaii so true, sometimes rural areas have less structured activity or daycare to keep kids busy while parents work so often kids can go home and bounce around the neighborhood, leaving them susceptible.

@roberts1711 no, not every parent does this and not ever parent does it effectively! It’s about teaching not interacting with strangers, understanding the temptation of lure and how to resist, and bodily boundaries as soon as the baby is born! For instance, teaching children, young teens, adults & even family friends are strangers if mom and dad aren’t around. It’s teaching that hugging and accepting kisses from adults is never okay. It’s teaching a 2 year old they don’t have to let everyone hug them. It’s allowing the two year old to say “no, my body, no touch”. It’s teaching children they don’t need to hold hands with adults or authority figures because “NO, this is my body. Do not touch my body.”. It’s teaching your children to say this phrases CONFIDENTLY and strongly.

I am a parent and thank god our children have not been hurt. We talk about stranger danger all the time. When I'm driving in my car, I point out strangers to my kids and ask them "Hey, what about that guy, is he a good guy or a bad guy?" I'm not looking to create stereotypes. When my kids reply "We don't know, but he is a stranger," I know we've done a good job.

Also, walk the talk. Don't just repeat to your kids "stranger danger, stranger danger!" You need to verbalize what YOU are thinking about so your kids know how to do it, and that it's OK to be suspicious of people and not to trust them immediately. Once you get to know someone, then you make sure your kids understand that that person isn't a stranger anymore, but you still need to be cautious.

So when I'm driving or walking around with my children, I sometimes point to someone--like someone standing on the side of the road, someone in a parking lot, someone who tries coming up to us and talking--I tell my kids what I am thinking.. stuff like "Ok I don't know that guy, he is a stranger. He's PROBABLY nice, because most people are nice, but he could be a bad guy. I'm not going to go over and talk to him. I am going to roll up my windows. I'll stay a safe distance away from him. He looks suspicious carrying that huge backpack and shouting at cars trying to get drivers to stop."

Just examples. Set examples and make sure your kids hear you thinking through things. When I was a kid, my parents always said "Don't talk to strangers!" And a few times they said "Don't take candy from a stranger!" But that was it. No more context. I would see my parents talking to strangers (someone at a store, someone at the gas station, someone on the side of the road.) It was confusing to me. I wish they had verbalized what they were doing so I understood it. That doesn't mean you have to SCARE your kids and make them paranoid, because yes, most people are good, and you don't want kids living in fear.

And yes, I am one of those people who could NOT be a detective. I'd take matters into my own hands and I doubt I'd have a moment's reservation about it.

My niece is four and an only-child so she really doesn’t have much interaction with other children. She goes up and talks to just about anybody and it’s scary as hell. I don’t know what my older sister does to teach her about stranger-danger, but I hope it’s at least something.

And don't wait 2 fucking hours to report them missing when they don't show up after school

And don't wait 2 fucking hours to report them missing when they don't show up after school

Or pick your child up from school and don’t let them walk home at 8

Or pick your child up from school and don’t let them walk home at 8

Sadly most kids are abused/killed by people they already know. It’s important to talk about strangers but also emphasize that not even people they know can make them uncomfortable/touch them/etc - PreK teacher

Sadly most kids are abused/killed by people they already know. It’s important to talk about strangers but also emphasize that not even people they know can make them uncomfortable/touch them/etc - PreK teacher

@crazytonic seems too extreme to show to a young child

@crazytonic seems too extreme to show to a young child

It's tragic that alot of the time youngs kids will understand but think there are exceptions aka family friends or even family. Please keep telling your kids and reminding them and testing them and asking them questions cause this entire story made me sick and I can't even imagine the girl and her family suffering through something like this.

I used to be in aftercare and my mom and i had a password so if someone I didn't know came and said oh your mom wanted me to pick you up and they didn't know the password I wouldn't go w them. I still remember that to this day and it was over 15 years ago

I used to be in aftercare and my mom and i had a password so if someone I didn't know came and said oh your mom wanted me to pick you up and they didn't know the password I wouldn't go w them. I still remember that to this day and it was over 15 years ago

Absolutely and contrary we need to go back to the it takes a village and watch out for the kids in general they are the future

Absolutely and contrary we need to go back to the it takes a village and watch out for the kids in general they are the future

My parents always had a word that an adult would have to say for me to go with them anywhere. Other than that, I was taught there’s never a puppy, adults just want me for themselves or to hurt/kill me no full grown adult would never need help from a child, so to always find someone you trust for help.

@Melatonin Yeah, I think understanding what a stranger is, being able to say No to an adult, and recognizing that it’s not a game are all obstacles to what seems at first to be simple instructions.

@Melatonin Yeah, I think understanding what a stranger is, being able to say No to an adult, and recognizing that it’s not a game are all obstacles to what seems at first to be simple instructions.

I have been drilling this into my kids heads ever since they could speak. when they were in 6th grade there was an attempt to kidnap a child from outside of their school. brutal.

I have been drilling this into my kids heads ever since they could speak. when they were in 6th grade there was an attempt to kidnap a child from outside of their school. brutal.

I thought that was what everyone tells their kids.  I got told that in the innocent '40's when most of the men were in the war.  Don't tell me her family don't feel guilty.

I thought that was what everyone tells their kids.  I got told that in the innocent '40's when most of the men were in the war.  Don't tell me her family don't feel guilty.

Good advice....

"Alexa buy an electical drill"

Good advice....

"Alexa buy an electical drill"

@RabbitTV the vast majority of the time in fact

@RabbitTV the vast majority of the time in fact

Bad thing is, a lot of the time it's people they know.

Bad thing is, a lot of the time it's people they know.

You can "drill" till you're blue in the face. Kids will still sometimes fo it.

You can "drill" till you're blue in the face. Kids will still sometimes fo it.

Man that’s all I ever remember from my childhood. Is my mom repeating that over and over again. I’m 19 now and she STILL say it every now an then

Man that’s all I ever remember from my childhood. Is my mom repeating that over and over again. I’m 19 now and she STILL say it every now an then

Sadly, my husband could probably get abducted with the promise of a puppy. 🙄🙄

Sadly, my husband could probably get abducted with the promise of a puppy. 🙄🙄

My sons know not to go with anyone that’s not us. My oldest says he’s just going to start screaming curse words. I don’t know about his tactic but hey it’s something I guess?

My sons know not to go with anyone that’s not us. My oldest says he’s just going to start screaming curse words. I don’t know about his tactic but hey it’s something I guess?

i learned what rape and sex was when i was 7 why well magazines were a thing and fetishes.
 but yes do this drill that into your kids mind but my case was unique.

i learned what rape and sex was when i was 7 why well magazines were a thing and fetishes.
 but yes do this drill that into your kids mind but my case was unique.

One of our local news stations once did a news story on seeing if they could get children to leave with them or at least get close enough to snatch. Every child the reporter approached did. Understand, parents watched it on camera and had actually volunteered their kids to be approached because they thought they had told them enough times to not go with strangers! A school aged child will almost always do what an adult tells them. Children in public areas need to be under adult supervision or as they get older (8+) need to have other age mates out with them for moral support. This was directly after we had a serial child predator hunting down children and assaulting and murdering them for two years in our city.

In Sweden a child reported that somebody had tried to kidnap him when he was playing outside. The man had asked the child to follow him to his car under the pretext that he was a police officer. The man told the kid that the kids family had been in a accident and were in hospital. The kid asked the fake police for the password and when the police couldn’t give an answer the kid got on his bike and sped away home. This was on the news a couple of years ago and is proven. Have a password that only you as parents know, this way the child won’t put down their guard towards strangers.

People, please PLEASE look both ways before you cross the road. You could get hit by a car, truck, motorcycle, anything.

People, please PLEASE look both ways before you cross the road. You could get hit by a car, truck, motorcycle, anything.

I'm glad I grew up in a safe nieghbourhood tbh cuz I was dumb and trusted literally everyone when I was young

I would literally walk away from my praents up to random person in a costume during Halloween and say they looked nice

I would have defenitely accepted candy if it was offered

I was walking to school with my twin brother when I was 8. A van pulled up in front of us, someone slid the door open and asked if we wanted candy. We had no idea the kind of trouble we were in, and we only declined his offer to enter the van because we weren't in the mood for candy. I later told my mom about it and she freaked out, only then did I understand what the two men wanted.

@C J who knows i thought i was making a comment on a youtune video like millions of people do. Little did i know youtube comments was full of righteous psychologists who decended to tell me how horrible i am

@C J who knows i thought i was making a comment on a youtune video like millions of people do. Little did i know youtube comments was full of righteous psychologists who decended to tell me how horrible i am

Parents, please raise your kids not to be creepy monsters too!

Parents, please raise your kids not to be creepy monsters too!

@roberts1711 wtf is your problem man, nothing wrong with people sharing common knowledge and experience

@roberts1711 wtf is your problem man, nothing wrong with people sharing common knowledge and experience

As far back as I can remember my mom told me that if anyone ever tried to take me away to scream "You're not my mommy, you're not my daddy" and I'll tell my kids the same thing.

As far back as I can remember my mom told me that if anyone ever tried to take me away to scream "You're not my mommy, you're not my daddy" and I'll tell my kids the same thing.

We gave my kids a secret word & if anyone out of the ordinary tries to pick them up the must say it or they'll start to draw attention. We instructed them how to act & who to seek out.

We gave my kids a secret word & if anyone out of the ordinary tries to pick them up the must say it or they'll start to draw attention. We instructed them how to act & who to seek out.

@Taylor I’m happy you are honest with your son.

@Taylor I’m happy you are honest with your son.

@Mark Zola81 I agree that other guy is completely wrong it’s never safe to let anyone under the age of even 14 I feel to be walking alone for long. I personally was always driven to and from school and anyways it’s too hot in Florida (where I live) to be walking for 15 minutes. That’s why I always go jogging after dinner.

@Angelina 🪴 What good did the comment do? It made me laugh. I thought it was a little funny and I’m glad that comment was made. I don’t think he meant anything harsh or mean in the comment, and I do agree with him.

@Angelina 🪴 What good did the comment do? It made me laugh. I thought it was a little funny and I’m glad that comment was made. I don’t think he meant anything harsh or mean in the comment, and I do agree with him.

@Angelina 🪴 And IF you send a friend in an emergency. Teach them a secret code they need to hear first.

@Angelina 🪴 And IF you send a friend in an emergency. Teach them a secret code they need to hear first.

I’m honest with my 8 year old son. I told him no matter what anyone says, or if they say I sent them.. etc. I would NEVER send a stranger to get my son. Never. He knows there are some bad people out there, that can do really bad things, including taking his life.

I didn’t scare him too much but I scared him enough that I think he knows what to do in that situation. I told him to scream, to yell, to run to any adult he could whether that’s a family, a store clerk, a teacher, anything. He’s also in karate learning self defense. It’s my worst fucking nightmare that someone takes my son.

What if they support Biden? Oh wait, definitely not.

What if they support Biden? Oh wait, definitely not.

Haha yes and I’m other news: water is wet

Haha yes and I’m other news: water is wet

This woman was not a stranger. She was an adult who was introduced to Torie as Trusted, by her mother.

This woman was not a stranger. She was an adult who was introduced to Torie as Trusted, by her mother.

@Psycho Social of course I have the right to call them terrible parents, because they clearly are, I don't need information off anyone to tell me that letting you're 8 year old daughter that can't defend herself at all out of the front door on her own, walking next to a busy road on her own, maybe even walking over roads on her own, walking next to strangers on her own, walking through parks on her own is terrible parenting. If anyone thinks that letting an 8 year old girl defenseless girl out on her own is a good idea don't have kids, end of

Unfortunately most children are sexually assaulted by people they know. Conversations need to be had about not going anywhere unless mom/dad says its OK. Plus what can they do if, God forbid they are in a bad situation

Unfortunately most children are sexually assaulted by people they know. Conversations need to be had about not going anywhere unless mom/dad says its OK. Plus what can they do if, God forbid they are in a bad situation

@Mark Zola81
You Don t have to read anything, I just wanted to give you the information I referred to in my comments. So that you can understand, what I mean. How you raise your children is not my bussiness.
And it s not your bussiness, If other parents deceide a different way of raising theire children and you clearly do Not have the right to call them terrible parents.

@Kat Russell seems to me like you are one who is salty. Your basically crying in your comment. Ironic.

@Kat Russell seems to me like you are one who is salty. Your basically crying in your comment. Ironic.

@Psycho Social I am a parent of a 9 and 5 year old, no mater what papers anyone sends me telling me that it's safe and good for an 8 year old to walk to school on their own tells me they don't know anything about parenting, it's dangerous and incredibly irresponsible, any parent that does should have kids, goodbye

@Mark Zola81 Which languages do you speak? I can send you something, I have from my universtity to this topic. If you want.

@Mark Zola81 Which languages do you speak? I can send you something, I have from my universtity to this topic. If you want.

@Sylvia not necessarily about being smart enough, more about naivety

@Sylvia not necessarily about being smart enough, more about naivety

@Mark Zola81 No I was not reasearching, this number. I didn t thought, you would took it as a seriouse number.

@Mark Zola81 No I was not reasearching, this number. I didn t thought, you would took it as a seriouse number.

@Psycho Social what are you talking about? Only 55% of 11 year olds walk to school today? You're obviously not doing any research yourself, please don't have children, letting an 8 year old child walk along busy roads next to strangers ain't good parenting, if you think it is then that says alot about yourself

@Mark Zola81 Most parents let there children go to school alone with 8.... So 95% of the parents are terrible for you?<br>Just make a quick research on topics like  Helicopter parents and it s negative impact on children, If you do Not believe me. I know, there is always more than one theory on how to raise children best .... But how I Said, we have a really good Research Object with the USA - a lot of people there live this Helicopter parenting to it s extreme and we can see the difference in the development of these children and the children in other cultures, who can grow up without 24/7 parental Supervision. The difference is very strong.

@Mark Zola81 Most parents let there children go to school alone with 8.... So 95% of the parents are terrible for you?
Just make a quick research on topics like  Helicopter parents and it s negative impact on children, If you do Not believe me. I know, there is always more than one theory on how to raise children best .... But how I Said, we have a really good Research Object with the USA - a lot of people there live this Helicopter parenting to it s extreme and we can see the difference in the development of these children and the children in other cultures, who can grow up without 24/7 parental Supervision. The difference is very strong.

My kids get scared when other people walk by us even when im with them. I was kidnapped in assaulted as a teen. I will never leave my kids alone

My kids get scared when other people walk by us even when im with them. I was kidnapped in assaulted as a teen. I will never leave my kids alone

@Psycho Social yeah you tell that to this 8 year old girl, 8 years old is a ridiculous age to let you're child walk to school and from school on their own, 8 year olds have zero comon sense, crossing roads, talking to strangers, they have no clue, if any parent allows this in this day and age then there terrible parents,  myself and my two sisters were drove to and from school and walked to and from school with my mother or father, you're talking bollocks

@Mark Zola81 S
Letting children go alone to school, is a very important Part of a healthy development for children.
So, No, they are Not terrible parents. Parents who do Not let theire children develope healthy, because they are afraid of everything are instead really terrible.
Just f.e. look at countries like the US, where Helicopter parenting became a real Part of theire society. There is a ton of research out there, that shows, what these mindset had done to theire society and the mental health of a whole heneration of theire kids.

@TRAPPNEST No. Children Just do Not understand it.

@TRAPPNEST No. Children Just do Not understand it.

@Stella That s the Case in 90% of the time.
Children DO NOT understand Things, If you just tell them.
You have to play such situations through, without that the Kids know, that it s only an "act". Plus you have to do it with a lot of different situations and Humans. If a child f.e. would not Go with a completly Stranger, it will probaly open the door for a the father of a schoolmate. Or go with someone, who says he is a Police officer.
It s sounds weird, but you have to "train" your children in the same way, you train a dog. If a dog learns "sit" in your living room, he will usually not can do it on the street.

I do this with my younger brother and he is so sick and tired of me but I won't stop repeating it to him.

I do this with my younger brother and he is so sick and tired of me but I won't stop repeating it to him.

Should this be done with an actual drill ? If so, this is tantamount to child abuse in itself...

Should this be done with an actual drill ? If so, this is tantamount to child abuse in itself...

Let me just jump in here even more crucial it is to not let them have secrets with any grownups. They’re most likely going to be assaulted by somebody they know statistically. Also they should not be touched anywhere where their bathing suit covers except by themselves when they’re old enough to bathe themselves

@Angelina 🪴 ignore Robert, op’s comment is perfectly relevant, there are parents out there that don’t want to talk with their kids about stuff like this because it’s uncomfortable, they tell themselves the likely hood of it happening to their kids is very unlikely so what’s the point, then it happens and their kids are left confused not knowing what to do.  Even worse if the kid is told to always respect, listen to and obey adults.  All of that is why I was molested and why I didn’t tell another adult about it for over a year.  Ops comment is relevant, you’re not a hypocrite and Robert is an arse

@roberts1711 believe it or not, sir, not everyone DOES have that talk with their kids. I was molested at 5 because my family is religious and didn’t want to have the uncomfortable talk with me.  So no, her comment is NOT stupid, telling people to ignore how uncomfortable it is and have the talk anyway is NOT a stupid comment.  Your comment is and you need to grow up and take your bad attitude somewhere else.

The really sad thing is, a lot of the time it’s not strangers, it’s a family friend or someone they know. What you should be saying is, “parents, please tell your children not to let adults touch you in these areas and if they do, find a different adult and tell them immediately.”

You can drill that into your kids head, but different kids different processing, taught to respect adults.  Everyday my kids leave the house I worry about ppl like him and McClintock

You can drill that into your kids head, but different kids different processing, taught to respect adults.  Everyday my kids leave the house I worry about ppl like him and McClintock

Most children are taken by people they know, like tori was taken by her aunt. Drilling in "stranger danger" statistically is not the best strategy

Most children are taken by people they know, like tori was taken by her aunt. Drilling in "stranger danger" statistically is not the best strategy

Sadly, more often than not, it's someone they know. In fact Tori's mother knew McClintic. Teach your kids they're allowed to say no to anyone, not just strangers. If they care about the child they'll understand. If they're offended then they need to not be near your child.

Sadly, more often than not, it's someone they know. In fact Tori's mother knew McClintic. Teach your kids they're allowed to say no to anyone, not just strangers. If they care about the child they'll understand. If they're offended then they need to not be near your child.

When I was walking home from elementary school one day a women pulled next to me and asked me if I wanted a ride home. I said no and she eventually left. I remember crying the rest of the way home. For years I thought I had dodged a bullet despite never really knowing what would’ve happened. Today, I’m just glad I never got in that car.

Used to have a board game called "Don't talk to strangers" that we would play as a family. Lol.

Used to have a board game called "Don't talk to strangers" that we would play as a family. Lol.

@Susan Brogan Both! It isn't black or white Susan. People shouldn't steal other people's money, but we still cover our pin at the atm isn't it? 🙄

@Susan Brogan Both! It isn't black or white Susan. People shouldn't steal other people's money, but we still cover our pin at the atm isn't it? 🙄

@Cara Diann lol well if it has lots of likes it must be a great comment. Because youtube comment likes are the best way of finding profound statements. I believe scholars are attempting to store all of the comments with high likes in a vault to preserve the genius of mankind.

"Like if your watching in 2020"

Seems to be the most brilliant saying of the year according to your method of determining if a comment is good

Lmao

@Jena Cide you dont know what that parent told their kid. Just because the kid went does not mean she was not told

@Jena Cide you dont know what that parent told their kid. Just because the kid went does not mean she was not told

Parents please also drill it into your children's heads not to be entitled to other people (whether that be to other people's money, time, patience, bodies, or lives)

Parents please also drill it into your children's heads not to be entitled to other people (whether that be to other people's money, time, patience, bodies, or lives)

@Susan Brogan Is that something non psychopaths actually need to be taught?

@Susan Brogan Is that something non psychopaths actually need to be taught?

@roberts1711 "That person shouldnt suggest we start doing something that every single person already knows and does already" Clearly not since it still happened.

@roberts1711 "That person shouldnt suggest we start doing something that every single person already knows and does already" Clearly not since it still happened.

Also teach your children that anyone is a stranger. A neighbor, pastor, police officer, security guard, women, teens, anyone that isnt mom and dad, brother or sister.

Also teach your children that anyone is a stranger. A neighbor, pastor, police officer, security guard, women, teens, anyone that isnt mom and dad, brother or sister.

Unfortunately, particularly with younger kids, you can drill stranger danger into their head over and over, but chances are they'll still go off with a predator if (god forbid) they're targeted. Kids instinctively trust adults, and think of them as the ones in charge. Makes my blood boil knowing there are people in the world that take advantage of that. They just don't have the life experience to know that monsters don't always look like monsters.  <br>(Obviously it's still important to teach stranger danger as early as possible, just venting my frustration that people like Michael exist)

Unfortunately, particularly with younger kids, you can drill stranger danger into their head over and over, but chances are they'll still go off with a predator if (god forbid) they're targeted. Kids instinctively trust adults, and think of them as the ones in charge. Makes my blood boil knowing there are people in the world that take advantage of that. They just don't have the life experience to know that monsters don't always look like monsters.
(Obviously it's still important to teach stranger danger as early as possible, just venting my frustration that people like Michael exist)

Or....teach your children not to kidnap!

Or....teach your children not to kidnap!

Unless it's a butterfinger. Then you go without hesitating.

Unless it's a butterfinger. Then you go without hesitating.

We have a family code word. If any different person had to pick me up (like my moms friend) they had to say the code word to both me and my teacher

We have a family code word. If any different person had to pick me up (like my moms friend) they had to say the code word to both me and my teacher

If you read about the case, the mother was an alcoholic and not really there for poor Tori. Her grandmother loved her, but the mother had custody. So we're not talking about competent parents here, which is even more tragic.

If you read about the case, the mother was an alcoholic and not really there for poor Tori. Her grandmother loved her, but the mother had custody. So we're not talking about competent parents here, which is even more tragic.

My parents always taught me that and still when a woman we didn't know asked me and my sister as kids to come inside her house, we did it. Nothing happened, she gave us a toy she wanted to get rid of lol but kids truly are stupid.

My parents always taught me that and still when a woman we didn't know asked me and my sister as kids to come inside her house, we did it. Nothing happened, she gave us a toy she wanted to get rid of lol but kids truly are stupid.

By “taught that” I meant that not every child is taught to stay away from strangers believe it or not.

By “taught that” I meant that not every child is taught to stay away from strangers believe it or not.

@Jake Rosendahl <br>she probably told her her dog had puppies and was giving them away or for Terri to help her find a lost puppy, that could work on a little girl since they are more likely to trust a woman not seeing them as threatening

@Jake Rosendahl
she probably told her her dog had puppies and was giving them away or for Terri to help her find a lost puppy, that could work on a little girl since they are more likely to trust a woman not seeing them as threatening

it's sad but true, people in more rural areas tend to be more trusting of their neighbors and not raised to be careful of strangers or locking their doors. Even sadder is that most cases like this they are not strangers but someone you know so you can never feel safe

it's sad but true, people in more rural areas tend to be more trusting of their neighbors and not raised to be careful of strangers or locking their doors. Even sadder is that most cases like this they are not strangers but someone you know so you can never feel safe

i have a hard time watching my little neices and nephew play because im so worried they will hurt themselves on accident. If i had kids i would never let them out of my sight! i know thats unrealistic, and youre gonna get to a point where you cant supervise your children 24 hours a day. what an awful outcome either way.

I will show her a few of the videos of these cases even.

I will show her a few of the videos of these cases even.

Thank you.  Children are trusting of authority figures and adults.

They need learn who to trust and who not to trust.

Thank you.  Children are trusting of authority figures and adults.

They need learn who to trust and who not to trust.

When I was a kid, I was asked by a couple to help them find their puppy and if I would get in their car and I was smart enough to say no and run home .

When I was a kid, I was asked by a couple to help them find their puppy and if I would get in their car and I was smart enough to say no and run home .

@Angelina 🪴 were you not? Because you did same to me that your blaming me of doing to others lol. Massive hypocrite

@Angelina 🪴 were you not? Because you did same to me that your blaming me of doing to others lol. Massive hypocrite

@roberts1711 come on. Plz don't tell me you were never taught that two wrongs made a right. At least we can say the op seemed to be saying this warning in earnest. What was your goal here?

@roberts1711 come on. Plz don't tell me you were never taught that two wrongs made a right. At least we can say the op seemed to be saying this warning in earnest. What was your goal here?

@Angelina 🪴 i was telling them their comment was unnecessary and wasnt anything to had by it. So you did the same to me as i did to them.

Ironic

@Angelina 🪴 i was telling them their comment was unnecessary and wasnt anything to had by it. So you did the same to me as i did to them.

Ironic

@roberts1711 I'm just an outsider looking onto this thread but sincerely telling you, your comment was unnecessary and I don't think there was anything to be had by it.

There're really sad individuals that this knowledge isn't common sense even tho it is to us. So again, what good did your comment do? Honestly. Could you just try to be nice?

@Angelina 🪴 if you dont think people should speak if they have nothing constructive to say, you actually agree with me. That person shouldnt suggest we start doing something that every single person already knows and does already. What a stupid comment.

Like me suggesting we should all make breathing an priority and should all breathe and make sure we get regular oxygen

Wow what a great idea. That should be a thing. Parents telling their kids not to go with strangers why did no one think of this ever before.

Thank god you came to youtube comments to impart this newfound wisdom onto us all

Wow what a great idea. That should be a thing. Parents telling their kids not to go with strangers why did no one think of this ever before.

Thank god you came to youtube comments to impart this newfound wisdom onto us all

Was drilled into my head when I was a kid. Asked if the mom of my best friend counted, who my mom has been friends with since before I was born. Yep, no exceptions.

Was drilled into my head when I was a kid. Asked if the mom of my best friend counted, who my mom has been friends with since before I was born. Yep, no exceptions.

I never really believed the puppy thing was used. Low and behold

I was a very dumb child, good thing it never happened to me cuz I would have gone

I never really believed the puppy thing was used. Low and behold

I was a very dumb child, good thing it never happened to me cuz I would have gone


Its disgusting how his 'biggest fear' in the entire situation is losing his life... Not like he didn't go and take Tori's, and her entire family's and a little piece from the entire community. What a narcissist. He was truly consumed in his desires; I mean, he wouldn't have done the crime otherwise.

@TheDeatharcana live a horrible life in prission is much more painful dann a peaceful death

@jones dager let's be real. After losing your only kid like that, and the killer gets locked up, and is allowed to live, permanently out of your reach. What else is there to live for?<br>That's no "justice".

@jones dager let's be real. After losing your only kid like that, and the killer gets locked up, and is allowed to live, permanently out of your reach. What else is there to live for?
That's no "justice".

@TheDeatharcana I don't know why people like him are allowed to live.. if only one form of sentencing would be to allow the father to deal with him as he sees fit. That poor family..

Even though the interrogators were using techniques it was making me angry to see that this piece of shit was actually being treated like a human being there for awhile.

As a father myself of a beautiful 4 year old, God forbid, I dont think I'd be able to carry on  with my life if I were her parents.
I can't even begin to imagine what they're going through right now.

I do wish public torture, followed by an execution was allowed though.


The detective’s basic strategy was, “It’s ok Michael, I trust you. You’re quirky, you’re not like the other murderers.”

" quirky murder" a line I never thought I'd hear 😆🤣

@The Zigzagman exactly since you know that even in the past those type of crimes have happened you should be more careful

@The Zigzagman how did i pass the blame to her? If you will go back to my comments you will read it, i said it wasn't the smartest choise to let her 8 years old out alone but i don't believe that she wanted something like that to happened to her child

@The Zigzagman i don't know about USA im talking about my Country it was still a Dictature maybe that should be the situation in USA too, and im saying it for good so some criminal would not even think about commiting crimes so easy

@ano nymous
But the 1980s were the height of paranoia over child abductions and the violent crime rate today is nearly half what it was then according to the Department of Justice. Fewer than 0.0005% of children get kidnapped by strangers every year and only a fraction of that number come to any harm.

It just isn't "dumb" not to anticipate this kind of freak tragedy and I think it's wrong to pass judgement on the woman for being victimized. That's all I'm saying.

@The Zigzagman my dear we don't live in 1980, yes in my Country in my Village i used to go to school with my little friends and go back home with my little friends and there was no danger everybody kneew me + i was the daughter of the (Police Officer) and everybody respected that . but now we live in 2021 if you feel secured go let your 8 years old go to school all alone but then don't regret it . we live in dangerous times we need to use our brains

@ano nymous
This logic doesn't track. Almost every kid I went to school with walked home alone and none of us were murdered. It's like saying you're dumb for not playing the lottery because one person won the jackpot.

One negative outcome doesn't invalidate the overwhelming majority of positive outcomes and it's a little cruel to blame the parent for not anticipating the unpredictable actions of two insane people.

Duudeee dead ass seeing it lol. Youre fun and spunky and i love your t shirt, is that hanes? Lol

“You’re not like other pedos, you drink PBR while stalking kids.”

@ano nymous Yea she would walk home from school.  That’s unbelievable.  Even animal don’t let their young be alone Jesus.  If any animal needs to protect their kids it’s human beings we are ruthless lol

Proceeds to tell him about a similar case of a guy name Michael Feerr(?) Doesn’t seem too familiar to his name 🤔. Hey Mike, 9:52 “these things happen all the time to guys named Michael.”

I had too :,)

It's funny, this tactic works in day to day conversation with anyone.<br>"It's okay Karen, I trust you. You're quirky, you're not like other girls."

It's funny, this tactic works in day to day conversation with anyone.
"It's okay Karen, I trust you. You're quirky, you're not like other girls."

@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected i don't know but in the video they say her mother just sent her to another department to puck her earrings from a table b if she walked home alone from school than her mother is also guilty

@ano nymous Somebody said she was lured from school?  Because she walked home alone ?

reminds me of what they said to Chris Watts: "Oh you know most fathers wouldn't cook bacon and eggs for their kids every morning?"

@Evy Courtney all of us understand that that's why we are not upset at the Detective

@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected she herself sent her daughter to pick up some earrings that she left on a table( i have a 10 years old daughter and i don't even let her go open the door) her mum was a little dumb but if she had any idea what could happened to her poor child she would never send her daughter there by herself , i feel sorry for her

@Local_Brain_Error // Synaptic_Misfire_Detected I agree 100%

I want to know where the kids mom was when they took her from a freaking Home Depot or school?  Young children should be glued to you where ever you go. You don’t see any animal in nature not being around their children constantly.  Even when they are separated they are within eye site and ear shot of their young.  Or why would the school let her get into someone else’s car?  Doesn’t Canada teach kids about strangers ?lol

@Evy Courtney secondhand embarrassment from your comment

@Evy Courtney Lol. I am 99% certain they were being sarcastic. Hahaha.

@Jenelle Belle it is very clever psychology, calling the rape and murder a mistake...and pretending to be empathetic....the criminal is more likely to admit to the " mistake "

@Jenelle Belle the worst thing is that those sick pedophiles really believe that it's just an innocent mistake

Everyone makes mistake, murdering and 8 year old and forgetting to pay rent. U know same thing

@ano nymousgetting a parking citation, forgetting to schedule your six month dental cleaning, murdering an 8 year old....you know, mistakes!

@Max Covfefe the victim's mother says that she saw him one month before the murder, maybe he was checking on her daughter

You are smart you are not stupid, you just did a mistake like anyone of us😂

Well, the difference is 1st or 2nd degree murder. "Was this just a mistake?" Is basically asking him to admit it happened, but that it wasn't well thought out or planned. His silence kinda makes it look like he planned it and is too afraid to admit it. I think this coulda helped him in the sentencing part of his trial. Obviously he planned it if he told his friend exactly the kind of little girl to abduct, but he had the chance to make it seem impulsive, like a mistake as opposed to a new lifestyle choice.


Hats off to these investigators who can say 'sometimes we make mistakes' with a straight face and gentle voice without gagging or having an overwhelming urge to jump up and pummel them within an inch of their lives.

What do you mean? They’d get fired instantly & would go on their record. They leave justice to the courts & they know they’re part of the larger justice process

I couldn't agree more.... I would love 5 minutes with this guy, that's all just 5 minutes!

A small sacrifice the investigators take. with imprisonment they will receive much worse for theses types of crimes

@The mighty cfc she wasn't 8 years old, and the detectives didn't even know if he rped her or not

@a They know enough if they've got them in there interrogating them.

@a your answer would leave people to believe that killing and raping an 8 year old is not a reason to beat the fuck out of the guy

I know he is a better man then me Maybe  he doesn't have kids

that's why all these investigators should DEF go to therapy... that's a HUGE ask, to play sympathetic like that.

@Ramuel Asturiano i’m pretty sure they’re allowed to lie..are you talking about using the response to the lie in court?

@Cringe Kid im not defending the man but I would not feel pleasure in that

@Ramuel Asturiano "they could not lie in these interrogations" yes they can... the police can and do lie in interrogations all the time; this guy even does it here.

@Flowerpower the detectives are rarely certain the guy is actually guilty. In this case, for example, they just assumed he raped her without ant evidence. <br>So they don't know he's a monster, they don't really know anything, which is why the interrogation takes place.

@Flowerpower the detectives are rarely certain the guy is actually guilty. In this case, for example, they just assumed he raped her without ant evidence.
So they don't know he's a monster, they don't really know anything, which is why the interrogation takes place.

@Cringe Kid im just saying its easy to act friendly and professional

@Ramuel Asturiano Yes I know all that.  I was talking about on a personal level.  It gives credence to the saying 'the thin blue line'.  BTW after seeing several of these vids, it has been stated the cops can lie through their teeth to move a confession along.   It doesn't impinge on them at all.

The police have to act a certain way. They have to maintain professionalism and they could not lie in these interrogations. These tapes are clearly recorded and may be used in court. Would you want a violent police physically hitting the unarmed and cornered criminal be shown to a judge and jury? At best, the criminal could get a less harsh sentence because the police abused their power in the interrogation. Best? The criminal case is thrown out altogether and the criminal doesn't get sentenced.


It boils my blood to see Pedophiles and Murderers who have no mental issues, cry as if they are the victims. Hats off to the officers who talk to them so calmly without showing the anger that they have within.


It's good to see these types of people get justice for what they've done.

@Philip  Relative to the abattoir I would put him in, it is safe

@furtim1 Safe? Well fed? Prisons are not safe places for these types of people. Even amongst criminals this guy is going to be despised and hated. They're not going to treat him well in there.

Justice? 25 years of safe, well fed, and dorm-living incarceration for nabbing, raping, and murdering a little girl is NOT justice in my mind.


Lmao just listening to him repeat the same stuff over and over is quite tiresome. Take a shot every time you hear the word "credibility." Its genius it creates mental exhaustion even from the objective perspective


He did such a horrible thing. And acts like such a coward when caught. Can't even admit to his crime. At least come clean. Coward.

Yes like at least give the girl some closure.

@Username they got the same sentence, they’ll be away for a long time.

It's a horrific thing to do. Pedophilia is a disease. They're not proud of it. They have urges and cravings just like us and they're hard to control. Just because you're not a pedophile doesn't mean you can't try to understand what's WRONG with them.

I bet you wouldn't come clean about things you're embarassed of. We all have things in our past that more or less haunt us.

For sure he couldn't handle it but it seems like he is trying to make himself believe it too. If he keeps saying he didn't do it, maybe it will just go away. Total lack of intelligence. Like, what did he think the outcome would be. That he would just walk away?

U really trying to apply normal logic to somebody who is clearly doesn't think like normal ppl

@ScamDetector If youre viewing it from a perspective of self preservation. But if youre viewing it from a moral one the right thing to do is to own up to your heinous act.

@Professor Waffle he did it bc he was caught and he knew his life was over ... poor him. He’s disgusting! Thank the lord he was caught so quickly

Self preservation is a thing. People always try to act or play innocent to get away when caught.

Many of them do, as soon as it’s their ass that’s uncomfortable and especially when an adult, that they can’t manipulate, confronts them. It’s pathetic.

He could've come clean within the first minute and nothing would've changed tbh

Well that's because people who commit crimes like these ARE cowards, always has been always will be. Only cowards prey on defenseless children

I don't think these kind of people can be judged by the usual standards, as on being coward. His brain works way differently than both our minds, emotions like guilt, cowardness, regret... Can't be felt by him the way most of us feel it. His head just does not function the way it's supposed to. I can't find another possible explanation for the acts that he committed.

@Username She got the same sentence he did (LWOP for 25 years). The difference is, of the two of them, if both make it to 25 years it's pretty clear which of them would actually be paroled, and which will be left to rot forever.

I know. It made me angry when we came in talking about how "tough" it's been since he's been there since noon.. God, that's tough? But what about what he put that poor baby through. This man is sick. Some people deserve to burn


I dont know why i was so somber throughout this up until i cracked up after 46 minutes of "are you hungery can i get you something to eat" after every few sentences only for him to break and JCS cuts in saying no food was coming


Before I watched this video i firmly believed, that noone is ever beyond redemption.<br>Now, I'm not so sure.

Before I watched this video i firmly believed, that noone is ever beyond redemption.
Now, I'm not so sure.


All that talking by the detective would drive me bonkers!  Nice job!


This is making me physically sick. That poor little girl 😭


"and I'm having a good time" and "you are a sick puppy" are things that will probably stay in this mike guy head for a very long time lol


Tori Stafford would've turned 21. But her life was tragically cut short by this horrible excuse for a human being.


I can't imagine a more Canadian thing than a cop telling a suspected child rapist and murderer "you haven't even touched your doughnut".


Was there ever a psychological evaluation & report of Michael Rafferty? It might give clues to whether Michael Rafferty was actually a good guy who “snapped” like the first detective is suggesting to him, or whether he’s indeed cold blooded & knew exactly what he was doing. Of course what he did was unacceptable & needs to pay for it somehow, yet I always try to maintain open mindedness & consider whether good people can make bad mistakes vs cold blooded real evil.

You only keep an open mind because she’s not your daughter, or sister!


I really like the second detective who gave it to Michael straight. Gave him hell and told him what a sick pos he is. I hope he gets tortured in prison.


for crimes against the most vulnerable, a life sentence should be the life of the individual criminal themselves...not just a set number of years for all.  seems a heavy flaw that should be rectified


I would put this kind of people to life in prison but not just staying there doing nothing, actually making them do hard labour for the community until their hands fall off because of the exhaustion


This interrogator is relentless. Dude throws so many words at this guy so fast lmao


That was the most legendary “you’re not that guy” moments of all time


Was it really necessary to give us an hour long video of an inspector monologuing with little to no response from the suspect? Nothing of substance was provided here. Huge disappointment from the normally compelling JCS.


So why in the heck do they a chance at parole in 25 years?? I pray they never get out..little sweet tori won't ever get her life back because of them..that lady is just as guilty. The system is whacked.


its crazy to think that if the woman just used her right to remain silent and talk to a lawyer they wouldnt be caught


cannot understand child predators. even if they were hurt as children you'd think they'd have the fucking intelligence to seek council and help. instead they ruin the lives of our most precious people.


Michaels whole attitude towards everything during the investigation is that of a child.


Im glad ppl in jail take care of ppl like this so they live under constant fear, terror and discomfort for the rest of their life. Killing them is way to easy. I bet the prison guards wont run especially fast to their aid either.


this story broke me when it happened. was too close to home


I'm happy in the end what that last detective  said to him, you and Paul Bernardo can make googly  eyes or whatever  else it is you guys do! Perfect  way to end it


I mean it's like being trapped in a room with a Jedi and their mind tricks. Lawyer up, don't talk to the police - even if you're bang to rights, get your deal hammered out then confess.


for such hideous and dastardly crimes there should be no chance of parole at all<br>the victim girl hasn't a parole to come back to life either

for such hideous and dastardly crimes there should be no chance of parole at all
the victim girl hasn't a parole to come back to life either


Do you know what a psychopath is, Mike?

I've never met one.

Well, I just met one tonight.


I highly doubt anyone who tried to take a shot every time he said ‘Kay is still alive to tell the tale.


I'm so happy I don't have to sit across from this detective


Holy crap I feel like I'm being tortured by the investigator'sl incessant rambling.


I imagine it maybe would have been satisfying if the detective returned with food but instead of giving it to him, he would drop it in the trash bin in front of him, spit on it and then just leave the room.


Detective: 'what's your biggest concern now you've been charged with this?'
Monster: 'losing my life'
I felt like putting my fist through my computer screen when he said that the horrible bastard he is


"See how bad I'm feeling? I can't even eat!" lol, it's like this guy is trying to convince his mom that he's sick enough to stay home from school


How can someone do this to a child ?<br>A women luring a child is too much

How can someone do this to a child ?
A women luring a child is too much


These Canadian interrogators are amazing, ok? Some of the best, ok? These are some next level speech skills, ok?


Men like this is why I believe in the death penalty.


The best comment was when some talked about Canadian interrogation torture tactics. A plain donut and tea with one sugar.


10:16 pretending like it would be understandable bless that detectives heart. I wouldn’t be able to do it.


This Detective LOVES HEARING HIS OWN VOICE!


I think the death penalty should be a thing in some cases.


Imagine murdering a child and then acting like a victim. Jeez I hope he gets tortured in jail


Most Canadian forensic investigator ever, eh?


Where’d you go pal, we need more videos.


Not a fan of cops but guys like this detective is why we need them  good job sir


What a beautiful little girl it's so sad there's too many monsters that's why parents need to watch their kids very closely and the school should have made sure that that little girl got home safe


UPDATE: 8 years into his sentence Rafferty was moved to a medium security prison where he can use the internet to make online dating profiles and play video games.


Took a shot every time the interrogator said "Turn back time" and ive got a pretty healthy buzz going.


poor baby had she not gone back for those earrings omg how the mother must feel wrong place wrong time rest in peace baby girl you didn't deserve this


playing "the bad cop" in these cases must be the easiest job in the world


I would confess after the 500th time the investigator said, "Okay?...". It's a great technique because I just want him to stoooooppp taaaalking. Absolutely brilliant.


This is just one of the worst stories I've ever heard....maybe his FN evil attitude like he didn't do anything  makes me hate him such more than other child killers


33:50 the detective mirror his movements is just genius


I lived nearby when this happened and everyone was accusing her poor mother. It was so disgusting when what really happened came out.

@Barwar plenty of countries let their kids walk home alone. It's not that big. Deal

@joe mamadotnet I found a little boy wandering around a shopping center parking lot. I watched him for a few minutes. When no one came around to check on him I went to talk to him. He was probably 6 years old. He finally told me he thought his mother was in Kmart. I alerted customer service and we walked around the store as I was holding his hand. We finally found his mother. She had left him in the toy department and he couldn’t find her. So he went outside. I was so taken aback. I told her “what if I hadn’t found him”. That scared the $hit out of me. Poor thing.

I also worked at a TG&Y in the 80’s in the toy department. You wouldn’t believe the amount of people who just sent their kids to play there. This was after Adam Walsh was murdered. We had a code Adam in the store for kids that the parents couldn’t find in the store.

One time a man took a little girl in the bathroom and cut her hair and changed her shirt so she would look like a little boy. Fortunately a Code Adam was called and the doors were immediately locked and the mother identified her. It was sickening and terrifying. Just a little while longer and she would have been gone forever.

Parents watch your children. Please!!!

@Huit Lang That's not what it means at all. He didn't blame the child he said the school and mother should have done more that's so completely different.

It's normally  the father everyone  blames. Even cops. Women not so much

@Barwar it’s a lot more common then you obviously realize ! Many children walk home alone on the daily . Do I agree with it ?  No, my kids never ever walked home alone from school., but it is a reality that occurs every single day all over

@Barwar<br>She might not have been a good mother, but drug addicts arent child murderer/rapists. She did not deserve to be accused of such a terrible crime.

@Barwar
She might not have been a good mother, but drug addicts arent child murderer/rapists. She did not deserve to be accused of such a terrible crime.

@November Blake Where I live, it’s not safe to walk by yourself even if you’re a full grown woman. Depends on the country and area. Some places are safe but a lot of places are extremely sketchy. My whole country is

@Nissan Skyline Ok well at least the story is beginning to make a bit more sense. Children stop falling for the, "hey little kid come to my van I have some candy" or "hey little kid you want to see a puppy" but if the mother is unemployed and addicted to drugs I'm pretty sure the mother never really talked that girl any life lessons like such.

@November Blake Yeah apparently. But creeps are everywhere.

@Nope sad to see that the US seems to be such a dangerous country for children

@November Blake Oh yeah..because monsters and creeps lurk.

@Nope an eight year old is in second grade, it’s not like she was a toddler. In my country at least it’s completely normal to have them walk to school alone,some even ride the bus to school. However I have realized that this seems to be insanely uncommon in the US, where parents seem to shelter their kids more

@Cynas I highly disagree..no small child should walk alone.

@November Blake Are you serious right now??

@Barwar Sad truth is that no one care about their child until something  went wrong.

@Cynas Young kids need responsible supervision going to/from school. Domestic violence is a different issue.

@Barwar it depends on the place and distance but generally a 8 year old is capable of walking home from school by herself, that’s not neglectful

Excellent point, crimes like this really cast a shadow on the family until the truth comes out

@Smoppet Statistics show kids are in more danger with family at home than walking home from school.   They lived a few block and as long as the roads are safe and the child doesn't have any sort of disability an 8 yo walking to/from school isn't the problem, not teaching them not to walk off with a stranger is.  My kids walked to school just like I did and my parents did.  It's silly to think in general kids shouldn't walk to school.

@E H-I I will read this later doing homework

@joe mamadotnet sorry I was agreeing with you.

@Nadia M like I said it was according to the other comments so if you wanna set the record straight tell everyone

@joe mamadotnet  If the news reports are true this was her first time walking home alone to their new house. She was supposed to be with her older brother but he left without her to walk the neighbourhood kids home and couldn't find her when he came back. She wasn't with the group of kids because she went back into the school to pick up something she forgot. This could have happened to any of the kids in that neighbourhood.

I mean, her mother didn't report her missing for 2 hours even though she lived only a couple of blocks away from the school. Her mom was also unemployed, addicted to drugs and hadn't gone out to search for her daughter, leaving it to the grandmother to search for her and later file a missing persons report. The woman that lured her away actually spent more time searching for her remains with the police than her own mom. That's pretty damn sad. I can see why the community initially thought her mom was involved.

Jesus! According to some of these comments this little girl had no one to protect her at any point of her life and she died unprotected. People like these are why I get anxious when I see a child without their parent. I will stop what I'm doing and look for their parent or caregiver. This poor child..

@Huit Lang That’s how I read it during that time so mb if I’m wrong but I’m making some roasted cauliflower rn

@Jojo "letting her leave on her own was dangerous, the mother and school both failed to protect her"
"Wow can't believe you think that means the kid deserved it"
Rephrased so you can better understand how this comment comes off

@Jojo I agree with you, but a more responsible parent would have been with their child. I was left alone a lot as a kid, and it was totally inappropriate. Thankfully, I was never harmed like this poor girl.

Her mother was a junkie and should have been accompanying her child. Who tf sends a little girl home on her own. The school is also culpable.


After everything he did all he could worry about was himself and what was gonna happen to him. Absolute cancer of a human being.


curious if the detective says something along the lines of mutilation of a corpse..to get him to admit to some form of crime


Some of these cases I just can’t sit through, it’s just these heinous crimes are too much for me to watch.


I would like to be the bad cop during one of these interviews


“Tori Stafford is all over your car.” 37:48. That gave me chills.

I’m so sorry for what you went through, sweetheart. Rest In Peace, sweet girl. 🙏🏻💕

There’s so much evil in this world, it’s unbelievable.


This was the hardest one to watch. Seeing this pile of shit curl up in a corner like he didn't commit one of the most heinous crimes a person could commit is vomit inducing.


The sentence is too light 25 years for taking the life of an 8-year-old. In cases like this, the only justice is an eye for an eye in my opinion. There is evidence and no doubt what happened.


This investigator is a certified badass. He knows his shit and its really entertaining to watch.


33:42 SAVAGE entrance.!! “This is the girl you just killed” and proceeds to throw a picture of her… we all hope he got in prison what he deserves


Ahh, "She just wanted to go home and celebrate with her friends because her mom redecorated her room." That made me cry, that's so sad. It makes me so sad when people have a nice normal life and then something happens that ruins it completely.

@Little_hunt3r  it’s worse when you find out that her mother was suspect number one because of her drug addiction... poor girl just wanted to celebrate with her mum who was supposed to be getting better

Is heartbreaking to know that they spent 8 years nurturing and raising a child only for them to be torn away by two cowardly worms

yeah seriously it always gets me so hard in the feels and gets me crying. god fucking it's so unbelievably sad.


"Get rid of your fuckin' security blanket and start being a man."<br>Damn!

"Get rid of your fuckin' security blanket and start being a man."
Damn!


"There was no food coming." The way I cackled. It's the least he fucking deserves.


Sick is not the word. They will enjoy that fool in prison. I hope the girl that helped him gets what she deserves as well. It's no good being sorry now !  Evil cow. Rip little girl 🙏


This dude's personality pisses me off.
He's has the nerve to be snarky with the detective and is acting like a little child who is being wronged when he literally ruined a little girl's life.
Only worried about himself. Not the little girl, or the worried parents, just himself. Absoulutly disgusting

@Sophia Troanska I gotta say, welcome to the internet! You give away a bit of your personal experience to back up a point, and people are going to go after it like sharks to blood. Ideally you'd have a fair chance to explain your point, but this clearly isn't Oxford- it's a public forum where people are gonna jump on whatever you give them. Sucks, but it is a topic that gets people fired up, child abuse/killing and all.

@Domas Smirnovas Wow. Thank you for your voice of reason. I needed that :)

@Parker Leigh is nt that pretty much the same thing.

@Domas Smirnovas i ve read this whole thread, and sophie said she thought he was innocent. a risky thing to say and all the other rubbish is displaced aggression toward the accused.

@Sophia Troanska I just read this whole thread and am quite appalled by the childish insulting and unempathetic blabbering of all these people, especially after you shared a snippet of your personal life. They blamed you for being the victim and that's really gross. This all started from an innocent guess with no serious intent, it's crazy how the internet can ruin your mood instantly.

@Matt Farrell That's why when a death penalty verdict is sent down the person should be scheduled for an execution date shortly after. None of this waiting for years BS.

@colorado121 whenever people say “locked up on public funds” it’s clear they don’t understand how the death penalty works. Maybe it’s different in Canada, but in the US you’re already going to spend many years on death row, being fed on public funds. While in addition going through many lengthy and costly trials because you’re putting someone’s life on the line. Again this is paid for by public funds, making the entire process MUCH more expensive than life in prison. Plus most of the time the sentence will be overturned anyway. Like someone else said this isn’t the medieval era, a person sentenced to death will not be executed the next day. Even though these cases are dragged out to ensure the wrong person isn’t killed, it happens anyway. Life in prison is not only a worse punishment,  it’s cheaper, so the death penalty literally benefits no one. Except people that somehow think killing someone is somehow a worse punishment than letting them torment themselves in prison.

he didn't just ruin the life, he snuffed it out

@Rina Sakurai I appreciate your comment. I am aware, and didn't need random people on the internet to tell me about my mental state. I was the one who divulged the information I did because I was already aware of the issue. You're right though, and I'm glad I became aware of it early in life before anything worse happened. :)

@Synaesthesia Nah, you're right. My comment was ignorant with only the information provided in the video. I've already addressed this with the 5,000 other people who immediately bit onto my comment with viciousness. I already admitted the ignorance, and appreciated your comment for being informative, rather than just downright hateful. But then I realized you were being sarcastic by trying to imply I'm so stupid, that I must be disabled. To counter, your comment was ignorant in not taking the time to read my replies and multiple acknowledgments to my mistake.

@Cotton Candy Kawaii Yeah, my comment was ignorant

it's not like it'd be any better if he was honest and mature about it. like, yeah he's evil, doesn't matter what attitude he had afterwards.

@cloudzinmyize it was part of the strategy. Toronto has the best behavioral psychology division in the world. It wasn't coddling. It was disarming and lowering defenses. JCS mentioned this in the video.

@Hannah Punishment is retribution. Personally, I feel better knowing these f#%$s are gone, but sure, I get innocent people get caught up in the system, and it takes many years a millions to get someone executed.

I wonder if there’s a solution, like a higher standard if evidence for death penalty.

@Hannah giving a murderer free room and board for life is no deterrent to the next monster who has nothing to lose.  Death penalty is a deterrent to the cowards who committ these atrocities.

@Cotton Candy Kawaii it's takes billions of years for dna to even start to decay

@Hannah <br>that's because the death penalty is a lengthily and costly procedure now a days but back in the day of rationality you were usually killed the day of or next day after a guilty verdict, none of this death row nonsense and costing tax payers money

@Hannah
that's because the death penalty is a lengthily and costly procedure now a days but back in the day of rationality you were usually killed the day of or next day after a guilty verdict, none of this death row nonsense and costing tax payers money

@Farmer Fpv You must have not been the original person responding to me because your writing style is different. Maybe you are. Whatever the truth is, no I didn't look into the evidence, and can admit when I am wrong. Can you?

@Farmer Fpv Dude, I just told you, or whoever the last person who responded to me, that I could be wrong. I commented that way before I watched the full video. Obviously this is a uninformed guess of a comment. Why are you taking it so seriously fam?

@Karolin Dude. I've been emotionally abused from a young age. Give me a break if I struggle with finding the difference between "good" and "bad" people. Yeah, I've let abusive people get close to me because the person who was supposed to be the safest, and who modeled relationships to me (my father) was abusive. How is a child supposed to know? Why would you use that against me? Maybe look at yourself and be grateful for the life you've had to feel so entitled and unempathetic towards other people's flawed world understandings. Jesus.

Well I mean he’s a sociopath so he doesn’t have any empathy or sympathy for people.  What did you expect from a deranged sociopath?

I genuinely believe he's innocent. His body language is different than any investigative video I've ever seen. Someone who's innocent would be as outraged as he is. He isn't trying to "look good," but is actually expressing his emotions.

@Hannah yeah and alot of the offenders unless they are complete sociopaths (which some obviously are) will actually be psychologically destroyed by the memories and knowledge of what they've done and self loathing and regret, while also getting their ass beat in prison for the rest of their lives,  A life sentence is many many times worse than the death penalty, I would take the death penalty over 50+ years of sitting in a box anyday.

@Hannah first of all, it's death penalty after 25 years in jail. Second thing, i feel like for some crimes (terrorism, child molester, mass killer, etc) it should be brought  back.  Depends on the crime, but some crimes are unforgivable, and they didnt show any mercy to their victims  .  Why feed them forever? Imho its not worth it.

@Royal Loyalty the death penalty is useless. It’s a far worse punishment, especially for someone who hurts children or the elderly, to spend the rest of their life in prison with a general population who’ll beat their ass every day. There’s an episode of I Am A Killer on Netflix where the guy literally says death row is nicer than general population, so he killed his cell mate to get the death penalty so he could live on death row. What kind of punishment is that?<br>And WAY too many innocent people have been executed. In a world with no discrimination and no dirty cops, maybe we could avoid that. But that’s not the world we live in. The death penalty isn’t a punishment, it’s retribution, and it’s not even satisfying retribution at that. It’s useless. Pointless.

@Royal Loyalty the death penalty is useless. It’s a far worse punishment, especially for someone who hurts children or the elderly, to spend the rest of their life in prison with a general population who’ll beat their ass every day. There’s an episode of I Am A Killer on Netflix where the guy literally says death row is nicer than general population, so he killed his cell mate to get the death penalty so he could live on death row. What kind of punishment is that?
And WAY too many innocent people have been executed. In a world with no discrimination and no dirty cops, maybe we could avoid that. But that’s not the world we live in. The death penalty isn’t a punishment, it’s retribution, and it’s not even satisfying retribution at that. It’s useless. Pointless.

He didn't ruin her life, he straight up ended it.


This guy’s interrogating is nonstop, draining and giving the suspect no time to think up lies to believe. He’s like a psychologic pressure fighter. Only the truly deluded or psychotic can withstand that pressure. Then Detective Smyth comes from under the ring with a chair!


I know were here for the analysis, but if i wanted anyone to have the worst possible death in imagination-it would be this guy.


Full manifestation of a spirit right on the yellow blanket at 38:00
many others throughout the interview


Oh now look into it I will determine all the way at the end now finally he's hoping as long as he doesn't say anything the news caption will read this man allegedly killed Tori so that would always be in people's mind that maybe it's somebody else, and I blame that on the powers that be for using a alleged all the damn time when you know they did it🙄


The tremendous amounts of research, effort, and dedication that JCS invests into each and every vid is nothing short of remarkable.

DarkRoads Yeah I keep commenting that. And a “jim” is a person being interrogated from what I understand? Hence the name Jim Cant Swim?

While i agree with you whoelheartidly just remember JCS is a team and has been from the beinning. It is not just the narrator.


Jim Smith was the interrogator of Russell Williams, another notorious case on this page.


Is the one who was the “bad cop” the same interrogator as the Russell Williams case? It sounds like the same guy.


I hope real justice was served in prison.


When the Detective started Free-Style shit talking him

I felt that


I could never do this guy’s job, trying to play psychological chess with crazy child killers. God bless him for his work

@Charles Martin III yes I have and I really believe when it comes to human psychology I feel I'm more than well equiped enough. More times than not I can feel someone out in the course of a conversation and realize what makes them tick and what is needed to warrant the response you want. I've struggled with addiction in my past and manipulation tends to go hand in hand with it in my opinion. You can make yourself physically numb to emotions and more times than not you have to use high levels of manipulation to achieve your end goal. Now at this point of my life would I prefer to be in a position where I had to pretend to  befriend and show sympathy towards people that are truly evil? I would say hell no due to the emotional toll, but the people who do are amazing for giving families justice and closure.

@Ashton Andrews have you seen these videos. Easy my ass. It takes a special man to manage your emotions while calculating all these tactics

I just said the exact same thing to my wife. I honestly believe it would be easy in most cases to crack them. Most are so self centered and egotistical that you have to stroke their ego normalizing the horrible things they've done offering sympathy while rationalizing all their twisted bullshit to garner a confession. Hats off the guys that do this job. I'm a level headed guy that's hard to anger, but people that hurt babies and the innocent deserve some good old fashion justice.

This patience, these lies "You made a mistake, you regret it, you are no monster..."

He'd be catching my hands for a confession, nonstop.

That's the rule of the new game.


Remember kids, whenever you’re being interrogated by anyone always say these magic words anc nothing else “I want a lawyer”

in canada they don’t have to stop questioning when the suspect calls for an attorney


His only concern was for himself. It's so goddamn nauseating.


I feel for the poor lawyer who got this whimpy dirt bag. I hope he is in prison getting what he really deserves.  Eye for an eye. Acting like a spoilt child - blaming everyone else. Coward.


If you think prison will be unkind, wait until you see what happens if they release him.


The woman said she was sickened by what was going on in the van, so she went for a walk; yet, she was the one that got the girl in the first place.  Exactly what did she think was going to happen?  Unbelievable.

@Paul Garrett He wasn't innocent, he was complicit in the crime.

@Paul Garrett "I can conclude that English is either not your first language or that you did not have a very good education."; "I did not say poor education, I said they were not a native English speaker." pick one buddy.

yes as she didnt commit the crime herself she was absolutely just as responsible and the only thing standing in the way of this tragedy, and she just let it happen

@Grace G yep she killed the girl after he was finished I hope the prison guards put him on the dangerous units even if he has to listen to others tell him what they would love to do with him.

Her own brother calls her out for being a great manipulator – she (from what we know) falsely self-identified as indigenous to get out of prison and into a healing lodge instead... and she has assaulted other inmates as well. Took major public outcry for our damn prime minister to put her ass back in prison where it belongs. Someone like that is beyond rehabilitation...

We must meet up sometime as we are probably neighbours, where on the black sea do you live? I actually live in Mariupol on the sea of azov but I visit the black sea often. Here we get many storms any wind over 25knots is considered high becaue the sea is very shallow only 13m at it's deepest point. I sail alot, I have my own boat so I know the sea quite well.

@Paul Garrett "Everyone makes spelling mistake, that is OK but grammar mistakes are a definate way to tell whether a person is a native speaker or not."  Okay but did you mean "mistakes" because that seems like a grammar mistake, my dude.

@Bishonen Princess I did not say poor education, I said they were not a native English speaker. I am sure you would not make the mistake that she made, but I think also you can't see the mistake she made. I will give you a cluse an article was used when every native speaker would know never to use one. I used to teach English until a few years ago  when I started statement analaysis. I still teach a little English at university level. Everyone makes spelling mistake, that is OK but grammar mistakes are a definate way to tell whether a person is a native speaker or not. Also I can tell is a person comes from the UK or the US by the type of grammar they use, many people in the US say things like "what are you doing on the weekend" or " What are you doing on Christmas" Notice I said many, not all, but a person born and educated in the UK prior to 2010 will say " What are you doing at the weekend, what are you doing for Christmas". You begin to see the differenc, you would never know if it was not shown to you. So before you jump on me again, do some research first, you must only fight the battles you can win, there is no victory here for you, only a vicious defeat. I do not mean to offend but I am tired of defendin my proffesion. There thousands of us doing this work and we never work alone, there is always at least 2 of us on every case.

Women who facilitate this sort of thing I'm certain have a special place in Hell.

@Phoe Nix I do actually, I have a masters in English. I'm not ragging at the person I am pointing out that in just a few words we can learn a lot about a person. As for my spelling mistake, maybe you could try writing on a phone during a storm on a small ship in the black sea, just a thought.  As a point to note I was not pointing out a spelling mistake,  did you see the mistake that shows a poor level of English?

@Paul Garrett I've ways been interested in what people give away in their words. Can you link me to some good sources I can go to to read and learn more about this? Greatly appreciated!

@Nicole X Looking at the words you have used I can see at least 2 mistakes. I can conclude that English is either not your first language or that you did not have a very good education. I can learn this from only 1 sentence, how much more about you could I learn from a few hundered words? Do you see what we mean, the words a person uses tells us so much and the analasys that I did was checked by 3 other analysts, we never rely on only 1 analyst. Give me some more words to work with and I can tell you about yourself.

@Paul Garrett and I’m a British president of the United States

@Sean Matthew King To write up a full analysis here is simply not practical. You are entitled to your opinion, but remember we look at the words used. Because he was convicted does not mean his words are false or that our teams analysis is wrong. This is a complicated science, but when a person says I did'nt do it these are simple words but they are also the most powerful words, the brain cannot allow a lie to come through a guilty person would say, I would never, this is a simple fact but to say, I did'nt 99.9999999999999% of the time this constitutes a true statement , this is a point of fact a guilty person in a stressful situation would have trouble maintaining this, you should watch again knowing this and do a little research into forensic statement analysis then watch the interview again.

@Hannah Slabodnik no one can say for sure why she did it or what she gained from it. It could have been she was coerced into it by Michael or she got off to it as much as he did. Some people have weird kinks where they get off to assisting.

@Bobby Friday Um, cctv cameras watched her get abducted. Then they found her body. Did you watch the same show I did?

@Paul Garrett yeah and I'm secretary of defense when I'm behind the computer

@Alex Radice man, all that for drugs 🤦🏼♀🤦🏼♀

@Paul Garrett I highly doubt that given your woeful spelling. Forensic statement analysts are linguists, and you’re barely literate.

And wtf was her reasoning!? Like most people do shit that’ll benefit them from it. But why would she help???

@twilit She went along with it, and that is no fucking excuse.<br>Men and women alike have been under far worse circumstances and walked the right path. She chose hers.

@twilit She went along with it, and that is no fucking excuse.
Men and women alike have been under far worse circumstances and walked the right path. She chose hers.

She thought:  in a woman so they wont do much to me.

she had so many opportunities to go get help if she was so disgusted by what was happening

I think he was the one thaat went for a walk while she was the one thaat killed the girl. She has taken his story and made it hers. His language indicate that he is inoccent, I can see no deeption in his Language but I think Peter Hyatt looking at the language to back up my opinion would be a very good idea.

She's also the one who beat the girl with the hammer.


That detective has extremely impressive mental discipline. I can’t imagine sitting across from this man and not killing him

Mfs in this thread really are like “i would never kill a child rapist cus thats not cool and murder is bad >:(“<br>I’m 10000000% sure that if it were your child who got their innocence taken from then before the same monster took their life after being done with them, you wouldn’t act like this “saint who will let the law deal with him uwu”, its human nature

Mfs in this thread really are like “i would never kill a child rapist cus thats not cool and murder is bad >:(“
I’m 10000000% sure that if it were your child who got their innocence taken from then before the same monster took their life after being done with them, you wouldn’t act like this “saint who will let the law deal with him uwu”, its human nature

@peace union how’s the view from the non-existent moral high ground?
“Leave it to the state”
“You are a sadistic murderer if you kill a child rapist/murderer”

Listen here man, you need a reality check, men get arrested
Dogs get put down

In the US/Canada you are not guilty unless proven so, and even if they have the proof, they can't be the judges, so he needs to receive his charges.<br>Because of that assumption, all interrogators are content and professionals and do not beat the shit our of the suspects.

In the US/Canada you are not guilty unless proven so, and even if they have the proof, they can't be the judges, so he needs to receive his charges.
Because of that assumption, all interrogators are content and professionals and do not beat the shit our of the suspects.

im sure the detective knows that doing his job will do way more to the suspect than physical force ever could

Homeboy was just excited he had an excuse to talk nonstop for two hours

@Emma Irving no problem, thanks for giving me more context to your situation. The truth is i doubt we'll ever be able to understand how these people work in their heads, though I guess in some sense, that's probably for the best.

@peace union it’s extremely complex and I agree with you, as someone who went through the Texas-Wisconsin Underground Sex trafficking rail road, for 4 years, I know how these ppl work, though I can’t completely give an explanation why, if a person openly admits “I am sexually attracted to children” then I do think they need to be put into some sort of program may that be residential or Co residential. I might have misunderstood what you where saying and I apologize, that’s on me. This topic is very close for me. I appreciate your perspective.

@Emma Irving  you're still  not on the ball completely. If they haven't acted on their urges and choose not to, then of course they can be in society. How the fuck are you goin to vet them without knowing? Do you recognise how many people you've come across could have been pedos but no one will ever know it because they never act on it? When did I say it was just a thought? I never said that. I know what it is, it is a mental disorder of the brain, cause is unknown, characterised by large amounts of grey or white matter in certain areas of the brain. If they go to therapy for help they should be placed in a controlled enviroment until they are able to cope with their disorder. Many many pedos do not abuse children. Most sexual abusers of children are not pedos either. Statistical factual data shows this. Its far more complex than anyone here is willing to admit

@peace union if a pedophile has not acted against a child then no, they don’t deserve to die, the thing is, pedophilia is no just “a thought” and they should not be apart of our society and should be locked away and receive help. Pedophiles should not be respected in a anyway shape or form, they do not deserve it. Yes, they don’t need to die if they haven’t acted upon urges, but they sure as hell don’t deserve to live a luxury life without help.

@Raymond Marek leave it to the state. If you knew anything about ethics or political justice, the state acts where an individual does not

@Taken_Over unjust cold blooded murder outside of self defense/war is NEVER ok

What ever the detective dose it will not come close to what will happen to him in prison, the detective know that so he does not need to get his hands dirty.

In my mind I've already fed him through my woodchipper 5 times.

That is called murder Timothy. I think a detective would know that's not ok and be SLIGHTLY restainied in his actions.

@Jeremy House you have literally no idea my ideology and any attempt to try to understand through one comment of mine is nothing more than pretentiousness

@Taken_Over what are you even talking about?

@L. Buds yes. Only if they commit crimes or intend to

@Taken_Over stop being edgy. You don't have a right to murder someone for being a sadistic murderer. Leave it to the state.

It's not being a murderer? You should get yourself checked out if you can't contain yourself.

You wouldn’t do that if you were the detective because then you would be in the suspect chair