The one thing that makes you stand out from the other YouTubers is your honesty. You get straight to the point, and explain why "this is bad" or "this is good". Many commentary YouTubers nowadays just want to hop on trend after trend just to meme on them and make a quick buck. Two perfect examples I can list on the top of my head were the James Charles incident and Idubbbz vs Tana Mongeau.

With James Charles, everyone hopped on it immediately. It damaged his reputation for good, especially now that the accusations were false. Didn't change the fact now that people to this day still see him as a predator. Everyone hopped on the bandwagon, yet no one took everything with a grain of salt.

With Tana and Idubbbz, everyone jumped on that bandwagon too. Every YouTuber reported on that topic to the point where the topic itself became so saturated where it just stopped being interesting. Idubbbz's content cop wasn't very impactful because everyone talked about it. He even made fun of that, hence why he did the topic so late. There wasn't much for him to talk about since everyone did it for him. This was the day where I stopped being interested in Commentary channels and youtube drama. Same shit, different day.

And that is the problem with youtube nowadays. Everyone has to be the first to talk about a certain topic because the market is so saturated. If you are too slow, the topic isn't relevant anymore.

Its sad that to be the best on youtube you have to make content you dont enjoy and not be yourself.


Man this made me cry, it was so sad to see the people you looked up to start to complain about you for seemingly no other reason than that you got popular.

oAc H卂LĹucᎥNAtinǤ, honestly being 20 now, I really feel that. People grow and change, especially considering most people I know watched ytp back in 2007-2011 were just immature kids like me. And at this point, the simplistic and frankly low-effort edits I see in both old and new YTPs just doesn't appeal to me anymore. On the other hand, extreme sentence mixing and editing is basically a constant I've always found funny, but it's become so much more in recent years than it ever was in the early days of ytp (especially if you look into sfm or gmod vids that aren't strictly ytp, but share strong similarities). <br>On the topic of Emp's change, I was hesitant to the shift back when he started Downward Spiral, but I quickly grew to love it. He critiques and considers the deeper implications of youtube and society as a whole, and opposed to the often mindless content people post nowadays, it really makes you think. As someone that highly values knowledge and thinking, EmpLemon's current content is something I never expected, but greatly welcome, especially when he enjoys doing it. There may be people that latch onto what he used to do, but in all honesty, they just need to accept people change, and maybe grow a little themselves.

oAc H卂LĹucᎥNAtinǤ, honestly being 20 now, I really feel that. People grow and change, especially considering most people I know watched ytp back in 2007-2011 were just immature kids like me. And at this point, the simplistic and frankly low-effort edits I see in both old and new YTPs just doesn't appeal to me anymore. On the other hand, extreme sentence mixing and editing is basically a constant I've always found funny, but it's become so much more in recent years than it ever was in the early days of ytp (especially if you look into sfm or gmod vids that aren't strictly ytp, but share strong similarities).
On the topic of Emp's change, I was hesitant to the shift back when he started Downward Spiral, but I quickly grew to love it. He critiques and considers the deeper implications of youtube and society as a whole, and opposed to the often mindless content people post nowadays, it really makes you think. As someone that highly values knowledge and thinking, EmpLemon's current content is something I never expected, but greatly welcome, especially when he enjoys doing it. There may be people that latch onto what he used to do, but in all honesty, they just need to accept people change, and maybe grow a little themselves.

@VG_Grover To me most of the spadinner poops are overrated. I gues my taste in humor changed. <br>My favorite poops are the heavily edited ones that artists like Awful Fawful, cs188, SinnedTragedy, Sightofdelirium, MasimoVTV and Original Name made.

@VG_Grover To me most of the spadinner poops are overrated. I gues my taste in humor changed.
My favorite poops are the heavily edited ones that artists like Awful Fawful, cs188, SinnedTragedy, Sightofdelirium, MasimoVTV and Original Name made.

I was happy to see YTP grow, so long as it wasn’t trashy spadinners. Yet in retrospect, a lot of the old spadinner poops are funny to rewatch


I always assumed the Downward Spiral came from EmpLemom’s refusal to make Frying Dory.


You’re still one of the greatest YouTubers.


This is unrelated but after getting into watching classic Simpsons episodes I've appreciated his YTPs and even the screenshots/clips he puts from the Simpsons more


>this goal of mine to become a full time YouTuber just might be feasible

Now this does put a smile on my face


I really expected this to be a waste of my time but I gave it a chance because all your other content is so great and I gotta say I was pleasantly surprised


When all the bullshit first started, I would have just made another channel entirely and not let anyone know I was the same person, and just upload content with the same style and watch all the same people talking shit about your main channel videos praising the ones on your second channel.


It's like rocket league, very calm seeming arcade soccer car game, yet it's probably my top 5 most toxic games I've played


I thought this was about deep-frying comments. My day is immeasurable and my roast is ruined.


You have 2 big problems:
1: you're popular
2: you're smart.

The Munristar has great music taste for a memer and ytper

Oh and he's self aware. Makes every emotional problem worse.

Smart people are hated more because they know, and desperately want, to express the truth behind things, but when people don't understand, they lash out, and people love to hold grudges against people.

that’s pretty true. the smartest people are usually the most hated people, at least from my experience.

everybody choses one...<br>except emplemon I guess

everybody choses one...
except emplemon I guess


"When you're in a downward spiral, there's no getting out, so you might as well aim for the bottom" -emplemon


People question his popularity, yet they're normies who probably listen to modern music.

Also, your Frying Nemo videos are my favorite YTPs of all time. You're not bad at making YTPs at all. You let trolls bring you down. If you don't care what other people think, you'll get a new, better, less toxic fanbase.


Seeing as Emp said he learnt more about YTP from Stew's YTP news, I decided to search for the videos and even the channel, but it seems to be gone. I know it's the wrong place to ask, but I would like to see why Emp respected Stew back in the day, and even learn more about the history of YTP. I love YTP-isms and seeing how to most a thing like JoJ would be meaningless, but to someone familiar with YTP or CS188 would instantly recognize a like minded individual. Kinda like with any form of art.
Anyone got a link to an archive? Is there such a thing?

Lastly, can someone please make a series of tutorials for YTP editing?
I know tutorials for YTP sound paradoxical, but with editing software becoming more expensive and more streamlined  for standard editing work, a lot of the effects and stuff that was just out there (because people who made professional software in 2000's had next to no concept of flow) for people to play with, are now things that you HAVE to deliberately look for.


I don't know if my life is on a downward, upward, sideways, or vertical spiral. I'm just enjoying the ride.


Every single video you have made the last two years have stuck with me in some way. I hope you know deep down that you have real fans that truly enjoy your content.


If you are listening emp i want you to know i respect you , your a cool guy I just wish more people realized that


i support you buddy, i loved all your ytps and the downward spiral.


this video hurts my brain but i enjoyed it haha. i dunno shit about ytp but hearing your story about the downward spiral is just heh inspiring. im glad im a subscriber and yes lemon, you're respected


I guess the old adage is true; "youtube is where the poop is."


I honestly whole-heartedly agree with this video. I'd always thought as to why I and others hated you, but everyone, including myself, either had no reasons or gave reasons that were either lies, misunderstandings or just plain petty. I came to terms with the fact that the mass of hate you got and still get is more or less baseless.
As a personal friend of the guy who commented, featured in this video, I can say that watching it unfold over the course of years when I first started talking to him in 2016 was strange, disturbing and sometimes even scary. Even though I didn't like you back then, myself, I never understood the immense amount of hate that was leading to counter-productive action and project after counter-productive action and project and various rants peppered throughout our conversations.
While I'm personally not the biggest fan of the content you make or even your YTPs, your style wasn't really my thing, I have massive respect for you for not giving up at this whole YouTube thing. It's not easy to continue when all the people you looked up to turn on your for seemingly no reason, so massive props to you for keepin' on! Stay strong, man! < 3
P.S. If you were expecting people on YouChew to be calm, critical and explain themselves concisely, I dunno what to tell ya'.


I used to be part of the YouTube poop community but after I grew out of it I didn’t know what to watch, so a year or two later I started watching your non YouTube poop videos and I really liked them so I started watching you again. I was never really part of the drama though, I just liked watching the YouTube poops for fun.


I feel like I dodged a bullet by not participating in the YTP community. I can thank restrictive internet use as a kid for that.


I'm happy we are stuck with you, Emperor.


EmpLemon does what a GOAT does and fires an ICBM of a video at the YTP community.

Dunno how this might have changed the course of your career, but Never Ever is like a gift from God. So thank you, Emperor, and thank you to whomever pushed this man in his current direction.

This video was incredibly engaging considering I do not know anything about YTPs. Much love, Lemon. You rock.


Honestly, I agree with some of the more recent hate comments. As long as you're having fun making videos, I'll watch you. But the thing is, I think you are having fun making videos. So keep on goin man.


My biggest regret in life? Not knowing about EmpLemon until he released that second Nascar video.


Proof that Emp here has ascended beyond reality itself


I laughed every time he said “YouTube poop” lol


I think the lesson I've learned from all this is some people will dislike you regardless of what you do, so you should do what you want. And for future reference, people being needlessly antagonistic on the internet is called the Online Disinhibition Effect.


just a few pieces of info:
1. your voice is just great to listen to, i have no idea why. no homo.
2. personally, i predict a crap ton of views on this video because imo backstories are the shit
3. variety content is probably your best bet these days, which i'd guess your commentary achieves already
that was pretty much it. good luck i guess?

just a few pieces of info:
1. your voice is just great to listen to, i have no idea why. no homo.
2. personally, i predict a crap ton of views on this video because imo _backstories are the shit_
3. variety content is probably your best bet these days, which i'd guess your commentary achieves already
that was pretty much it. good luck i guess?


This video is so inspiring to me dude, I mean I published my first 2 videos ever (and I’m not gonna act like they’re Abby good. This is NOT self-promotion.) and good god this shows me that i have a lot of growth to do maté. I love your videos PS. I found you through internet historian, and I would love you to collaborate again.


I've been through on this entire ride- I often get attached to Youtubers I watch and just stay- I'm not picky. This is... Rather interesting.


Legend says that the downward spiral became an upward spiral after this video launched


There will never ever be another YouTuber like EmpLemon


it's a tough call, but i think this might be my favorite video of yours


Nah that was mostly adults acting a child over children's movie edits lmao


This may be a half year after you posted this video, but I have to say I do respect you. Not because of your popularity or lack thereoff, not even because of your cringy edits on the video (really showing you YTPoop backgrounds), nor of the actual content.

I respect you because through your rants you show real emotion, something that is hard to find on non-streaming media, and you don't shy away from  agreeing that you have Gasp negative emotions! Anger, depression, downward spiral, and regrets. You show us who you are through your videos more so than most video creators. That is why I enjoy your rants and respect you for what you do.

P.S: That last bit where you reached out to the original commenter and had a nice discussion with em on reasonable terms show that most anger throw about is mostly pettyness and/or immaturity, and most likely people will mature away from such things over time.

This may be a half year after you posted this video, but I have to say I do respect you. Not because of your popularity or lack thereoff, not even because of your cringy edits on the video (really showing you YTPoop backgrounds), nor of the actual content.

I respect you because through your rants you show real emotion, something that is hard to find on non-streaming media, and you don't shy away from  agreeing that you have *Gasp* negative emotions! Anger, depression, downward spiral, and regrets. You show us who you are through your videos more so than most video creators. That is why I enjoy your rants and respect you for what you do.

P.S: That last bit where you reached out to the original commenter and had a nice discussion with em on reasonable terms show that most anger throw about is mostly pettyness and/or immaturity, and most likely people will mature away from such things over time.


this is truly the greatest backstory of all time


Pfft. "Downward Spiral" was a perfectly good meme, and here we see Hollywood giving it a completely arbitrary origin story just to make a quick buck smh

They're obviously only doing it for views.


Patiently waiting for the second installment.


Man, now I understand why you did an hour commentary about HungryBox. He's kind of similar to you on being ostracized by your peers. I love your commentary videos, and I find you similar to me in some way cuz people also have messed for petty reasons (tho less people xD). Have a nice day and be strong man<br>p.d fuck he's  even an engjneer like you!

Man, now I understand why you did an hour commentary about HungryBox. He's kind of similar to you on being ostracized by your peers. I love your commentary videos, and I find you similar to me in some way cuz people also have messed for petty reasons (tho less people xD). Have a nice day and be strong man
p.d fuck he's  even an engjneer like you!


I feel like I've experienced the same shit on every comment site. The weird thing is: it's always worse from one's own community.


its really cool to watch this vid after getting in to this channel after the hbox doc


You went from abstract art to direct artful commentary.  Lovely.

Zachary Snyder I see you are a fellow UGF fan


It's amazing how humans have the ability to ruin the stupidest of things like youtube poops


You know, in a way you're like the youtuber version of Dale Earnheardt, HBox and Mankind; the scrappy dude who's trying to claw his way up to the top from the bottom using all the flak as fuel to keep himself going.


You are my favorite youtuber and have got to make the highest quality videos I've ever seen


Hey it looks like this video didn't damage you after all, instead everyone apologized for how bad we all were five years ago!!!


"We are reaching levels of pettiness that shouldn't even be possible" favorite quote 10/10


Wow after watching this video and the previous ones and the most recent one I'm glad as hell I have found this channel and subscribed already.


I think this whole situation can be explained by the underdog mentality. There is a small contender in a big, rigged system that starts gaining notoriety and respect by moving up said system. However, the more fans someone gets, the more haters  someone gets. When this underdog crosses a certain threshold, they become an overdog, the king of the hill. Suddenly, the community turns on them, and now no one will admit they actually like this person. Through no fault of their own, this person now questions if the thing they used to love is still right for them. The person experiences burn out, and they quietly retire. Years later, the only time this person gets talked about is from former haters questioning why they hated the person in the first place. This is EmpLemom's story exactly, and I'm glad he managed to turn things around and is generally liked again.


Feels like I stepped into a one-sided argument about passive comments critiquing an art piece.  A simmering domestic abuse case just waiting to boil over.  Mk.


Damn, one comment and you get a whole books worth of philosophy. This is why I stuck around after the poops tbh, cause these videos actually have effort put into them.


Ngl this made me respect you way more, glad you didn’t stoop to the level of those edgy losers. Also youchew seems like diet 4chan lol

That's the best definition of that cesspool

Youchew is like the /mu/ of ytp. Kind of a circlejerk.


I love how your vids still have kinda a ytp flavor.. maby thats enoghf, keeps me lol'ing an visually stimulated. Keep up the good work>>


This man is my idol. I will be waiting eagerly for another "poop". Wish you the worst.


As an independent artist who hopped in and out of communities, let me give you this advice.
Enjoy the feeling of beeing part of a group and the positive interactions that comes with it, but don't forget to keep developing yourself outside of the heard.
Oh, and most of all, only listen to constructive criticism and even then, make your own opinion before letting it impact your creative process.
Never stop making what you love, true passion is contagious.

Xislost


That middle school commemoration was absolutely precious <3


TFW you're watching Emp expose his heart and Soul online and you start to lose feeling in your body.

I'm in the spiral, I'm never coming back.

The spiral is time, there is no stopping it. No one escapes, you spiral until you reach the center (your death).

I'm a Pooper, On a sponsor I ride
I'm doward, downward
On a spiral.


And now the dude dishes out biographies and history lessons worthy of the O.G history channel. Talk about a face turn.


as a side note, guess who didn't get big and does engineering for a living lol


Your videos almost inspired me to unironically make videos on unimportant topics that I have strong opinions about, but I have no confidence in my voice


Subbed for the poop, stayed for the scoop


"when your in a downward spiral, there is no escaping it. so you might as well aim for the bottom"

What an amazing quote


like you explained in a bid I watched recently.

when you go into YT you have no idea what are you going to post, no one has good recommendation on how to handle the platform properly and what to post, most daily YT's have no idea what post daily.

YT is a huge trending machine that pushes people to post content and has people who can be and not be Toxic, trolly, hackers, dramatic, etc.

it is also fine to cry and let your emotions out, it tends to happen under stress, it is also very important to stay off internet to keep your mind sane and healthy man, but anyway I wish the best of luck for you and your college degree, hope you can graduate.


"I dislike this type of pooping"

Excuse me what

"I dislike this type of pooping"

*Excuse me what*


Basically, when you get too popular, other content creators get jealous/unhappy. We’ve seen that with all sorts of channels making all sorts of stuff, even to this day.


Awww, sweet of you to remember, lad. 👌
Never understood this "YouChew", or why anyone cared about what O'Reilly had to say. Dude's the Marzgurl of YTP.

Awww, sweet of you to remember, lad. 👌
Never understood this "YouChew", or why anyone cared about what O'Reilly had to say. Dude's the _Marzgurl_ of YTP.

"O'Reilly"

Was that an intentional dig at Stuart or a mistake?

Your opinion of someone is highly manipulated.

damn, you swooced right in<br>glad to see ya

damn, you swooced right in
glad to see ya

The prince has returned. If just for a moment <3

I never got it either. Who cares what a couple hipsters think? Your fans are the only people you should listen to. Also, it's nice to see you're still alive even if you don't poop anymore. Loved your shit, dude. Pun intended.


i dont know much about youtube poop and i think its silly the way you guys are discussing this topic so seriously. but i love your newer content, especially the "there will never be" series


Idk if you'll see this and idk if this'll matter all that much; but I like watching you for the creativity that very clearly is shown throughout your editing. Legit you're the only one I see edit in little "commercial breaks" in your videos, and I find that fucking INTERESTING! A little detail, yeah. Does it matter? Not that much. But it's also interesting for this reason. Those little, "commercial breaks" aren't just any ordinary ad (even though some times its to plug in your patreon), they're your old videos- ones you made some time ago. I like how you dabble in your YouTube poops into your rant videos because, idk about other people, but that to me shows that you haven't let go of the styles and type of videos you started off with. You haven't sold out, and you haven't changed. A little bit of your hobby/passion can be seen throughout your rants and it shows, to me atleast. Keep doing what you're doing, because clearly you have good intentions.


You can’t trust anyone! Especially your heroes!

Syndrome is my favourite Pixar villain because he’s the most relatable, understanding villain out of them all and you kinda want to rout for him


Love you dude keep making videos never stop


I've been subbed to you since before the whole Uncredibles. I never got into the community but I loved the likes of MrTpoops, OrpheusFTW, Dikeike...I basically witnessed the golden age and fall of YTPs. You were always my favorite. Mainly because of your simplicity.

Some people just seem to get bored with it. Cartoonlover and TRmario were notable ytpers but went on to become pretty decent animators, just cause that's what they wanted to do instead. Just because some people leave doesn't mean new people will stop making them.

I forgot that EmpLemon even did YTPs, but when Uncredibles appeared in the video, I suddenly remembered that's the video that convinced me to subscribe


Frying Comments is the best Frying video I’ve seen, i can tell it took a while as it has released alongside the finale in the frying dory series, which as we know, took a long time to make


A new series.... that still hasn't gotten past the first episode<br>But i would like to see this continue

A new series.... that still hasn't gotten past the first episode
But i would like to see this continue


This is a certified top 10 anime betrayals!


Hey Emp. :) I watched your YTPs and I'll watch any other video you make. Complain? Cool. Upload? Good. Don't listen to the people who complain at you. If you leave, I'll probably kms.

Also, Lemon. Is this Lemon too sour to continue YouTube? Or will this Spiral continue to rise, and by rise I mean fall.


The UNcredibles drew me in as a dumb little kid, and I stayed for everything else

and I'm glad I did.

westofhollywood Ah yes it drew me in as a dumb little kid too and I’ve stayed ever since as well.


0:32 " All of you have probably seen your fair share of comment response videos on YouTube, where big and proud YouTubers sarcastically mock the utter peons beneath them as the slime between their toes. " Dang, that was poetic, what the hell?

0:32 " All of you have probably seen your fair share of comment response videos on YouTube, where *big* and *proud* YouTubers sarcastically mock the utter _peons_ beneath them as _the slime between their toes._ " Dang, that was poetic, what the hell?


“Why the fuck are we stuck with you?” Oof, I felt that.


6:00 You're basically making the argument that you're communication but "not to be heard"


Glad you got some closure on why a chunk of the web hated you. The internet can thoughtlessly spew vitriol like nothing else, and it's never clear whether it's genuine dislike or just an easy trend to follow


Ytp, a genre of absurdism, taken seriously

@Shape Shifting community drama is just a fancy way of saying accepting people personally attacking in a community

I fucking hate community drama in all its forms, why can't we be vitriolic about shit that matters like politics or theneedledrop ratings?

If Joseph Campbell were alive today he'd be writing books on the archetypal significance of great the Lord keks awakening to birth a new age of enlightenment through the seeds of chaos.

DamonOfTheWind basically it’s camp but on YouTube


I never heard of you until a month ago with the HBox video. I don't know who you are so I can't hate you but I have a base line level respect for anyone alive, so you have my respect just for being a person. If we ever got to met or talk, that's when I can really make a personal judgement level choice like if I respect you or not. So far your content isn't for me but that's not a reason not to respect someone, you could have some skeletons I'm not aware of and never will be but to just assume you're not worth respecting seems silly to me. I have no idea how I would ever get in contact with you, or why, there's no reason for it, but I'd respect you until you gave me a reason not too, just thinking like that makes life a lot more tolerable. The most important thing is having fun and I hope you're having as much fun as you come off with the Never Ever series.


damn emp your almost there till 1M<br>i remember watching you when youre 100k gg

damn emp your almost there till 1M
i remember watching you when youre 100k gg


One thing I feel like might have been passed over may be the motivational power of adversity. When you are a channel with 10 subscribers and you go from 10 to 100 that is a huge motivational factor not only because you are succeeding, but you are succeeding DESPITE not having traction already. After the numbers get big enough that you can't even comprehend the amount of people watching comments begin to matter. Having your heros give negative feedback is a motivational factor, because you want to prove you can be better. But thats like using poor quality fuel, eventually the engine clogs and it sucks the fun out of the experience. Its easy to say and point out that while you spent this whole video about at most thousands of negative comments, hundreds of thousands of positive comments are also there, its just hard to appreciate them because most of them are unsubstantial. "Keep up the good work" doesn't give the same information as "This is lazy as fuck" despite both being pretty much the same level of non-effort comments because of the negative comment implying that if you prove yourself not to be "lazy" you can grow rather than maintain. Thats why someone would lurk on a forum that apparently was dedicating to hating them, seeking this negative feedback kinda feels good in a weird way because it challenges the existential fear that there are no mountains left to climb. Its just worth reminding yourself that you are making mountains out of these mole hills to push yourself whenever it does come time to objectively evaluate your worth as a creator.

TL:DR Some people thrive in an environment of hate, and when they don't have it they will go looking for it.


Who knew there was so much criticism behind creating purposely shit content.


Regardless of this drama, Ascended is the best meme/YTP series on the Internet.


11:26 >Sees profile picture
Oh man, Sabrina Online. Now that's some good early 2000s adult content right there.


I despise YouTube-poopers, and the whole community in general, But man, do I relate.


we live in a world of entitled people, and when you aren't entitled the entitlement culture will bother you. But you'll always have what they don't have, real success


The YTPs were good, but these long commentaries are what drew me into your channel, and the “Never Ever” series is absolutely stunning, some the best content I’ve ever seen. You are a really great content creator and I’ll support whatever you do


look, i like you, it doesn't mean you're spiraling down, I'll be there for you, praying for you to be ok and stop spiraling down. I like you oh so much with your funny content, you deserve support and freedom from the suffering and pain. I believe God can help you because He's always the answer. You're a good man Emp, you can't let anyone take you down. You can do it, I believe in you...


Love you bro, dunno you irl but you’re very cool and neutral. I get you, people dont like me either in my respective communities but...what are we to do. Dw I support you though :)))


Jealous and narcissism kills everything. All of the comments you mentioned, criticism, cruel intentions, every single gram of it comes from "im better than you and im going to hurt you for having something I want". Losers, all of them. I faced a lot of it in the fingerboard community back in 2010-2012. Its easy to look back on it now and totally ignore it, but at the time, its your meaning. Its what you do. Jealousy from a group of people like that, especially ones you trusted and/or respected is simply emotionally impossible to ignore. I'm sorry you had to deal with this.


"I've finally realize my dream - hating being famous"
I think you laid it on a teency bit thick there.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!

That's all I could think throughout this video.

"I've finally realize my dream - hating being famous"
I think you laid it on a teency bit thick there.
*IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!*

That's all I could think throughout this video.


Came here from the REVENGE nascar vid. Congrats brother! Individualization is king, imagine all the nobodies that cant even shower daily taking out their discomforts on you. You became a great video maker; the vid editing, timing, music, calm demeanor. Does it take a bunch of planning and prep for a video or should i just get em done?


I didn't even know there <b>was</b> a YTP community, at all. I wish I didn't, all this knowledge has brought me is the fact that most of my favorite people probably won't ever upload again because they were bullied by internet supremacists over memes.

I didn't even know there *was* a YTP community, at all. I wish I didn't, all this knowledge has brought me is the fact that most of my favorite people probably won't ever upload again because they were bullied by internet supremacists over memes.


Even though he’s serious, there is good humor in this video. I don’t care what this guy does


I was kinda sad you stopped making ytps but I know it’s not going to change what you want to do with your time to whine and scream in the comments for you to make more. I respect that you are still posting and didn’t quit all together. More than anything, you adapted you weren’t left behind. Commentary videos on interesting subjects are what a lot of youtubers are doing. I think other poopers are probably jealous they never figured out how to adapt to the new trend in content people are looking for.


"You're only making this video to get views" argument:

well yeah, who isnt making videos on YouTube for views

@Brett VV  Brett VV  I agree. Lets just say Emp went full on vlogger mainstream  style for his Logan paul video. Even if everyone else was doing it the same way, If Emp felt that, that was the way he needed to go for this video and it payed off, I'd be fine with it.

@BigBrainAnime If a content creator suddenly takes a hard turn into the unfamiliar permanently with their entire channel, then sure, I agree 100%. I just don't see a problem with a few here and there. Most creators who end up sticking around for any significant amount of time eventually branch out from their original format. Current channel, as an example.

I just think that a lot of viewers react like entitled children throwing a tantrum when their free entertainment deviates slightly.

@BigBrainAnime If a content creator suddenly takes a hard turn into the unfamiliar _permanently_ with their entire channel, then sure, I agree 100%. I just don't see a problem with a few here and there. Most creators who end up sticking around for any significant amount of time eventually branch out from their original format. Current channel, as an example.

I just think that a lot of viewers react like entitled children throwing a tantrum when their _free_ entertainment deviates slightly.

@Brett VV Well it's not that it fits any ideals per sey , its that it lost what made the viewer interested in the first place.

It's like when best friends drift apart. On the suface things can change all they want but these two will stick together like a velcro strap, but the subtle changes in their personality and mindset as they grow, slowly but surely, unhook each piece of velcro from its fabric and then finally velcro noise they're apart.

People follow creators not only for good content, but because they are them. Audiences know they have the choice of hundreds of idiots playing video games while screaming at them, so why stick with say markiplier or Game Grumps. They both have their charm and way of doing things that resonates  with people. if that charm goes away the audience feels there's no reason to stick around. This is what happens when creators choose views/revenue/etc. over genuinely trying to entertain and create, they loose them selves and thus their audience.

@Brett VV Well it's not that it fits any ideals per sey , its that it lost what made the viewer interested in the first place.

It's like when best friends drift apart. On the suface things can change all they want but these two will stick together like a velcro strap, but the subtle changes in their personality and mindset as they grow, slowly but surely, unhook each piece of velcro from its fabric and then finally *velcro noise* they're apart.

People follow creators not only for good content, but because they are them. Audiences know they have the choice of hundreds of idiots playing video games while screaming at them, so why stick with say markiplier or Game Grumps. They both have their charm and way of doing things that resonates  with people. if that charm goes away the audience feels there's no reason to stick around. This is what happens when creators choose views/revenue/etc. over genuinely trying to entertain and create, they loose them selves and thus their audience.

@Christian 'You can make it for your enjoyment. You will publish it for the interested to watch it."
Right, you publish it to get views.

@Christian *'You can make it for your enjoyment. You will publish it for the interested to watch it."*
Right, you publish it to get views.

@BigBrainAnime I don't understand this "sellout" argument either. It's simple really, regardless or what the "regular" content on a channel is, it's very simple:

1) Is the video good?
2) Did you as an observer (not you personally, but rather you, general viewer) receive entertainment from said video?

If the answer is yes to these two questions, then who gives a shit if it fits into some viewer's idea of "regular" content provided by the creator?

@BigBrainAnime I don't understand this "sellout" argument either. It's simple really, regardless or what the "regular" content on a channel is, it's very simple:

1) _Is the video good?_
2) Did you as an observer (not you personally, but rather you, general viewer) receive entertainment from said video?

If the answer is _yes_ to these two questions, then who gives a shit if it fits into some viewer's idea of "regular" content provided by the creator?

I make videos on YouTube soo i can get a sick satisfaction from no one caring about me soo when i eventually comment sucid i feel no regret

Yeah I don't fuckibg get it, isnt that the point

You can make it for your enjoyment.<br>You will publish it for the interested to watch it.

Dan c isn’t that the point of YouTube ? I mean, being a YouTube is technically a business thing.

So then clickbait 10 minute videos are ok? Not everybody make videos for the sake of ad revenue, some make videos for the sake of hobby or quality content despite the fact that they would get less views

Not that I'm defending the idiots who say this about Emp, but the real argument behind "You're only making this video to get views"
Is that the people that say this feel the creator is throwing away artist integrity and genuine desire for the sake of getting more views.  AKA being a sellout.

I say there's nothing wrong with hopping on trends for a while as long it's genuinely related to your channel and or you can add something to the conversation. Shamelessly trying to cram the latest, hippest, this what all kids are talking about, nonsense in your videos (I think we've all seen the trending tab) is a different story, and were the actual problem lies. People can feel betrayed when creators do this, as they feel like they are nothing but dollar signs and the creator will just go where the money is instead of caring about and appreciating those who got them where they are. They're also putting to more soulless crap content on the site, and their "success" encourages others to do so and cycle continues.

Just like everybody commenting funny things for likes and an ego boost, and not actual commentary on the video. (I'm not targeting you, just other comments in general)

this is a good point but it just doesn't fit here

<b>l i t e r a l l y   e m p   i s n ' t</b>

@Theoretically Harmony Same. It's kind of a stupid criticism. Why the fuck else would anyone post their videos on YouTube?

Dan c I never really saw an issue with making videos to get views


EmpLemon, You Honestly Totally Didn't Deserve Those Messages From YouChew At All If I'm Being Honest With You.
People Saying That
"oHHHHh, it'S jUST cRItICiSm, iT's cOnsTrUCtiVE"
Like, No It Isn't Constructive Or Vaild At All. I'm A Critic Myself And I Know What Form Of Criticism Is Vaild Or Not. And Saying Stuff Like.
"wHY ArE tHE sImPsONS gREEN??"
Isn't Criticism That's Literally Just A Question Lol.
People Honestly Need To Learn The Difference Between Constructive Criticism And Mean Criticism Properly.......................
They Can't Expect Everything In The Internet To Be Perfect And Just Right.
They're YTP'S After All For God's Sake

EmpLemon, You Honestly Totally Didn't Deserve Those Messages From YouChew At All If I'm Being Honest With You.
People Saying That
"oHHHHh, it'S jUST cRItICiSm, iT's cOnsTrUCtiVE"
Like, No It Isn't Constructive Or Vaild At All. I'm A Critic Myself And I Know What Form Of Criticism Is Vaild Or Not. And Saying Stuff Like.
"wHY ArE tHE sImPsONS gREEN??"
Isn't Criticism That's Literally Just A Question Lol.
People Honestly Need To Learn The Difference Between Constructive Criticism And Mean Criticism Properly.......................
They Can't Expect Everything In The Internet To Be Perfect And Just Right.
*They're YTP'S After All For God's Sake*


back in the days: "screw waxonator"<br>today: "screw vaccinators"

back in the days: "screw waxonator"
today: "screw vaccinators"


7 month necro comment, here we go!

I first became aware of YTP in that same summer of 16. I had a lot of time to myself because of relationship issues with my now current wife. Your content was among the first for me to discover (I'm not really sure how) along with MLG meme compilations and a number of other things that caught my attention.

I didn't know about all the drama between you and the YTP community, but I certainly enjoyed your videos. I can say your pixar poops were probably more popular because they were much more digestible. For the same reasons you made them, I watched them. Through that long lonely summer I had, your videos started a trend for me that gave me many laughs when I needed them.

I'm happy to see you're still kicking around on here. With the topics you've been covering, and in such detail, I have mad respect for you. Keep up the good work! Can't wait to see if your full YouTube career takes off.


"I really dislike that style of pooping" has to be the rarest insult i've ever seen


You don't have to make YTPs again, I enjoy a variety of content in a single channel btw.

Your commentaries are very enjoyable to listen and watch, that's why I always have that bell!


Came for the goofy edits of childrens' shows, stayed for the complaining.


ok im gonna say this when emp said "*advanced* criticism." it synced too well with the spongebob clip


There will never ever be another youtube pooper like emplemon


I think the YTP community doesn’t understand how important you have been to the community.

Your existence allowed YTP to keep pushing forward, and even though you’ve quit, you’ve passed the torch to many other poopers.
T1E2H3
Schlafrillas
HourOfPoop
Need I say more?

Your story not only is a message to poopers, but a message to youtubers aswell.

You rose.
You beat the odds.
You know your flaws and improved on em.

Thats what makes you a good Youtuber.


Oh my god.

Now I realized why I've been subbed to you!

I actually enjoyed your YTPs though it as also was when I was in HS


Such a shame all this happened to you, I personally enjoyed your Pixar poops and still do today.


EmpLemon, you're talented since I've watched your video contect..<br>All respect.. A Fan.

EmpLemon, you're talented since I've watched your video contect..
All respect.. A Fan.


There will never ever be another YouTuber like EmpLemon


This is a great video. It gave me more understanding as to why went from YTP to commentary/rant stuff to what i think is your best products yet, the Never Ever videos. Thanks for making this video Emp.


the money i would pay to attend a lecture on internet culture by emp...


"I really dislike this style of pooping."


It’s sad to see that the reason you no longer do ytp is because of all this.

To be honest, it just shows how toxic people can be. Literally treating your ytp’s as like a product or thing that MUST be consistent and follow their rules. Then they turn their back on you and act like you’re ‘not the same’. To me, it shows they wanted you to stay the same from start to finish. Then if you notice, you started doing other content, and then you became something better, you make content you genuinely enjoy. So to be fair, this is just a case where you found something better, those people drove your passion of ytp’s away, and instead allowed you to transition to new and better content.


when we storm area 51, we'll find the 2019 EmpLemon YTPs he's been hiding from us!

look up EmperorLime, that's his second channel. there resides the treasure you seek


I can’t understand how it’s possible to be pretentious over bizarre mash-up videos.

It’s a fringe community on YT, not an art movement. 😂😂😂

I really can't, either. In fact, I remeber that in ballet, there existed a production whose recital was seemingly so bizarre to the audience, that the audience backlashed to the point of physical violence. I'm at least glad we're all behind a screen anonymous to the extent of nothing extremely terible


Petition for some Oldschool EmpLemon YTPs


i legit almost cried watching steve say goodbye.


So instead of this becoming a "series" it was just a therapy session.


Did this video recently come back onto the website because I’ve never seen it before and I’ve watched almost all of this guy’s videos.


With respect to YTP, is it at all surprising that channels and communities dedicated to publishing borderline incomprehensible humor/art are bad at communicating in clear terms?


“Is emperor lemon ever going to poop again?”

“Probably not”

Me: impossible


I remember when Numberer started getting millions of views and I think we all did the same thing as what chemistryguy and Hurricoaster mentioned here,

Those comments were full of critique.


Remeber, this dude said that: ''All of his content, subs and views was from those shitty YTP's''.
But then Emp created ''NEVER EVER'', one of the best YouTuber series of all time (in my opinion), and I think that's when his channel blew up. Episode 1 and 5 are the best content on YouTube I have seen in over 6 years, and I think:
There will NEVER EVER be another YouTube channel like EmpLemon

Thank You Emp for all of this incredible content, your formula of making documentaries and videos is something I have ever seen, kee the work man.


0:52 I can't stop replaying just to hear that small whistle sound help


I would pay for an Emp Lemon documentary


So basically, this all started because of YTP elitism and jealousy.


we have moved into an age of constipation, my friends.


This video is interesting. It's like you had a sudden realisation that the internet is filled with stupid, unpleaseable people with a shield from accountability through anonymity.

I learned in my teenage years that the best way to "protect" yourself is to pretend not to care. While effective, soon it stops becoming pretending. And this can have a really negative effect in your real day to day life. I struggle even now to put effort into things since I "know" they won't be appreciated. I stream games, but do you see any content on my channel? No, because I've sabotaged my own feelings and motivation.

You inspire me not to give up completely and just let go. The fact that you're finally making something again that you want to make and are fulfilled by is an example for everyone else. It's a great journey, and one that isn't even finished yet.

I know I'm years late to the party, but thanks for making this.


This comment will probably never be seen but eh I just wanna say I've been a long time fan ever since the Pixar poops tbh but I stayed along even for some of the rant vids that I honestly quite enjoyed as well. I like the way you think and I like the subtle humor you use in those vids too. I knew you got hate at a point and all I ever thought was that people wanted more out of you that wasn't what you wanted anymore, I didn't know that it was even worse than that and you'd been struggling a lot. Tbh I still don't understand some of the stuff like why people hated what you did or what exactly was the problem with you, I always thought you were just someone who wanted to make funny videos that got hate that didn't make any sense so you lashed at that because it made no sense. I thought it was funny and I always thought you were the same person with the same values. Whenever you said you had no clear answer I totally understood that because I'm totally confused as well, but I really hope you can just keep doing the stuff you love and that you got a satisfactory answer that hopefully didn't make you regret too much because honestly I don't see anything you should be regretting, but that's because it's not my life and I have no idea what's going on. Hope everything goes well for you in the future.


@Sailor or "hate train". There's a lot of words for hating something, but in the end it's still unjustified

@Marx funny how that actually didn't change anything I said, and even supported it

It was one furry, and some different people. This video has too many points to TL:DR properly, so don't attempt to do so, especially if it is just another way of trying to validate your phobia 😁🖕

@Ichabod Lorax Skunks have black and white fur, stormtroopers have black and white armor...

hey wait a moment


"People attack what they can't control."<br>-Me

"People attack what they can't control."
-Me

@Bring Peter Griffin to Super Smash Bros epic


That Dashlane YTP segue was absolutely cursed.

Keep up the good work man


I think one main factor that could have had an influence in this type of behavior within the YTP community is that, like many other online based communities, the YTP community is made up of a majority of children/people with immature type of minds. kids in any type of social system tend to act shallow and petty.


So basically you're Chaos from Sonic Adventure.

Joking aside, it's odd yet somehow sweet that you've become the guardian of YTP culture nowadays after the DOWNWARD SPIRAL. Keep on keeping on. . .and I just made a comment that'll be forgotten because it was made way too late.


Thank goodness you switched to making good videos LOL your seriously great at these documentary-style videos


Hey. Been sticking around to your content since The Uncredibles. I have enjoyed a lot of your YTPs, despite people looking down on you for being popular. Though I wasn't fond of your time of complaining about your fans, and I didn't agree with your Google-doc about YouChew. But I enjoy the new content you push out! They are entertaining to watch! Just wanted to leave this comment to say that I have for a long time enjoyed your videos, and you shouldn't be discouraged by people's complaints. Take constructive criticism, and be better at what you are already good at!


The true awards are the ones that represent why you went as far as your did, not what you achieved. This comment and how you treat it is probably the greatest example of this.

The true awards are the ones that represent *why* you went as far as your did, not *what* you achieved. This comment and how you treat it is probably the greatest example of this.


I miss Orpheusftw, Deepercut, waxinator, durhamrockerz.

Those silent gameplay/music channels like Garudoh. The overabundance of ytp and "spooky real ghost".

Good times. man. I'm really glad you stuck around.


That weatherscan song at 2:50 is absolutely amazing.


My dude EmpAckbar never fails to deliver. WWE, Nascar, and now YTP. If the next video isn't about the true underrated art of ICP's Backyard Wrastlin', or the health benefits of kissing your own sister, then I, for one, will be shocked and outraged, good sir.
Keep doin' you, kid. 👉👉
banjo music in background

My dude EmpAckbar never fails to deliver. WWE, Nascar, and now YTP. If the next video isn't about the true underrated art of ICP's Backyard Wrastlin', or the health benefits of kissing your own sister, then I, for one, will be shocked and outraged, good sir.
Keep doin' you, kid. 👉👉
*banjo music in background*


There's this one YTP creator I used to follow for the longest time, called TimAJH. He has 1.8k subscribers. But when I want to watch YTP's, I go to his channels. (He has two).
Emp, you have 752k subscribers. And I've watched many of your YTPs, and these new essay-style videos. I love 'em.
But I'm gonna be honest; I prefer TimAJHs YTP work.
But that's just my humour preference.
Because newsflash to these elitist wierdos; comedy is still subjective, regardless of how hard you try to gate it off.


Maybe the real downward spiral were the friends we made along the way


Hey, your videos are good and you shouldn't care what they say just make videos you want


The Best youtube poop member is now an channel who tells the reality of YouTube!


1. Popularity is NEVER earned or deserved 2. You were in the process of growing up, so was everyone else 3. Seems like you made the best out of it, you already know few others ever do. You've done great work.

I think the people getting mad at him for making pixar poop  are jealous because  he's popular and  it works


If someone that you like and admire is less popular than you but at the same time you wish for their respect but deliver a shit sandwich. Then I don’t believe that you should give them that admiration. I may have not been in the YTP community but this is true for all communities. I think they should stay jealous because it feeds your ego.


“In order to be loved, you must first be hated”


Have you thought of taking up a new hobby? You could take care of bugs or plants! Both are really relaxing and calming.


So... the main reason that emp started his downward spiral is because of a Diet Coke keemstar with an Eric Schwartz furry PFP?

It’s like a bizarre anime. Oh, and this is an amazing video, but that goes without saying.


You make some of the best vids on the web buddy. Str8 up.


I hope he has this comment framed in his living room.


It is, as they say, "Turtles all the way down." You can never find the source, you can only continue pressing forward.


well that's what you get on a youtube poop channel that does commentary and criticism with somewhat controversial opinions


"Why the fnck are we stuck with you?" Thats gotta be the coldest and harshest insult to say to anyone at all.


Have you ever seen Matt Furie's downward spiral paintings? pretty cool, i recommend


Youtube poopers back in the day were a bunch of edgelords who thought it was cool to reject everything that was popular.


I hope this still isn’t an issue. If it is fuck em’ I say. Your content has always been good to me. I’ve been watching since 2016, what a dank year that was!


Howdy Emp. I'm commenting this before even watching the video because data is expensive and I'm a cheapskate.

I first discovered you through your Internet Historian collab. I have only ever seen you as a genuine, down-to-earth guy who makes honestly stunning work on your YT channel. Your YTPs are fun too to be sure, but your appeal now is being one of the arguably most genuine YouTubers there are.

You get it. You see the subscriber count as something to earn, not just boast about. The fame or infamy is a side bonus as long as you can get your message across. You embody the spirit of old YouTube that must be preserved: BROADCAST YOURSELF.

Like you showed us in your Never Ever for WWE, it doesn't matter what your name is. I suppose what really matters is what you do. And you're doing great.

I look forward to spiraling downward ever onward til we hit rock bottom and see what really matters here.
〽♻

Post-watch edit: You had to use Steve leaving, didn't you? Dang it man, I can only muster so many feels for such a well-done video.


16:22 Ok so I know I’m late to the party on this, but does anyone have a link to this document of his? I’d love to sit down and read it


I don't know too much of the ins and outs of the YTP community, but as you said, I find it ironic that these people editing shit to sound funny are giving you this much hate. It seems out of character for internet stoners to care this much about anything.


Huh-  it's Like I'm watching a Documentary Of Myself. I always seen myself Wishing To go back to the content I was making one year Ago. Your content reflects how you act as a Person.


wow soft machine throughout half the vid... really happy to see my favorite band in a popular yt vid


emplemon you are one of the best youtubers ever. Never stop being you man


Emperor Lemon.... I have respected you for many years. For awhile I didn’t have a channel because... I was scared to make one. But watching your YTPs inspired me. By the time I started a channel and by the time I started to learn how to use Final Cut Pro, I was too late. You were already on you dOWnwArD SpiRaL,  and.... I was scared to say anything. I wanted to show you you have my respect but... I was scared others would lash out on me. I was scared that you would reject me words. I shouldn’t have been such an idiot back then. Because of your amazing work, you’ve inspired me. Hell in my 100 sub speacil, I mentioned you were such an inspiration.

I guess what I’m trying to say is, you’ve always have my respect man. And even though you stopped doing YTPs, your work will continue to inspire me.

Thank you, for everything.


People will hate you, people will love you. You can earn respect from both aspects. Sure I miss your YTPs but hey I’m still a loyal subscriber and I still watch your content, old and new. Just keep on keepin on. 👍


Holy shit. I just realized, I've been unsubbed from you since the start of this spiral when you asked everyone to unsub.


12:42 I don't think so.
Not sure how the english-speaking YTP community works but, in the spanish-speaking community, illuminatus is the most-subscribed YTPH user and people respect him a lot. As far as I'm concerned, not even other YTPH users have something against him. Tho some don't like Catdanny100 (the one who made one of the most-viewed YTPH)


wait those epic vidlii poops were made by someone else? aw shit... bruh moment. <br>but anyway awesome vid lemon, appreciate how personal u got.

wait those epic vidlii poops were made by someone else? aw shit... bruh moment.
but anyway awesome vid lemon, appreciate how personal u got.

@backgroundman Absolutely nothing, I was just of the impression the owner of that VidLii account still hated EmpLemon, but I'm glad that is not the case.

My boy, EmpLemon himself said the videos were funny as hell. Besides, the guy that makes them doesn't even hate the guy. What's wrong with a little friendly satire, hm?

Yeah I suspected that, tbh most of them were pretty funny, even though impersonating someone just because you don't like him/her is really fucking sad.


Holy shit. The downward spiral theme is the stairs music from Mario 64 in reverse...how did I just figure this out??


Tomorrow’s the anniversary of this video (as of June 3rd 2020)

If you ever look back at the comments at all, just want you to know I’ve fully accepted and enjoyed the changes made. I just want to also say that back in the day me and my friends enjoyed the shit out of those YTP’s


<b>Leaving to find someone that doesnt sit at their computer and cry like a baby for a living</b>

*Leaving to find someone that doesnt sit at their computer and cry like a baby for a living*


“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain-“


<b>We're reaching levels of downward spiral so citical that we'll soon experience integer underflow</b>

*We're reaching levels of downward spiral so citical that we'll soon experience integer underflow*


There will never ever be a YouTuber like emplemon


Been watching you since I was 12 I'm 17 now your content is awesome man


The more you want it, the more you chase after it; the more you chase after it, the more you want it.

The lesson is: don't try. Just do, and just be. Then, instead of chasing success, you suddenly arrive at success, despite where you might actually be at.


Strange how others complain how emplemons jumps on the band wagon when everyone else did the same thing with the hate comments


It's really funny how the american YTP community diverges from the brazillian one, the bigger poopers were always held in high regard by mostly everyone, people though of them as an objective to be reached and when they left, the went out as heroes for a generation


Respect given. Respect earned. Younger than me. But your understanding of the internet is OG.


This has to be some of the most petty shit ive ever seen its almost funny. id take it as a complament that they're still digging at you, they clearly have nothing better to do


I’ll be honest, I always enjoy watching your informative commentary/analysis videos. I feel like you always seem to know exactly what you’re talking about. I even once cited your Never Ever episode on Spongebob as one of my sources for an essay I did on Stephen Hillenburg.

Edit: Also, wow. This video was legitimately tragic and beautiful. I had never really thought of you as one of those “fallen” Youtubers the way I think of Leafy and Keemstar until now. Maybe it was because a) your channel is still around unlike Leafy, or b) people hating you never became a meme (outside of this channel at least) like it did with Keemstar. Either those, or the hidden third option c) I wasn’t really good at keeping up to date with your newer things at the time. I had always just thought of and kinda accepted that you had completely changed. In retrospect, I can definitely see you as having fallen from grace, and I was probably just too dumb/oblivious/optimistic/sentimental to see it that way since I was a dumb 14 year old at the time. Fortunately for you, you managed to learn from experience and bounce back. I can assure you that if I was in your situation, I would crashed and burned right then and there, since I’m too much of a perfectionist and approval-seeker for my own good. I hope things turn out all right for you, and that you’re happy with what you decide to do.

Maybe one day, the downward spiral... will be Ogre?

I’ll be honest, I always enjoy watching your informative commentary/analysis videos. I feel like you always seem to know exactly what you’re talking about. I even once cited your Never Ever episode on Spongebob as one of my sources for an essay I did on Stephen Hillenburg.

Edit: Also, wow. This video was legitimately tragic and beautiful. I had never really thought of you as one of those “fallen” Youtubers the way I think of Leafy and Keemstar until now. Maybe it was because a) your channel is still around unlike Leafy, or b) people hating you never became a meme (outside of this channel at least) like it did with Keemstar. Either those, or the hidden third option c) I wasn’t really good at keeping up to date with your newer things at the time. I had always just thought of and kinda accepted that you had completely changed. In retrospect, I can definitely see you as having fallen from grace, and I was probably just too dumb/oblivious/optimistic/sentimental to see it that way since I was a dumb 14 year old at the time. Fortunately for you, you managed to learn from experience and bounce back. I can assure you that if I was in your situation, I would crashed and burned right then and there, since I’m too much of a perfectionist and approval-seeker for my own good. I hope things turn out all right for you, and that you’re happy with what you decide to do.

Maybe one day, the downward spiral... *will* be Ogre?

Very well said ma dude. It is quite the tenacity to become something different and fully recover after being successful at one thing then falling tragically just as you get there.


Frying commies lol.

I still love you, emp. Don't stop being the best youtuber. You bring joy to me.


Cartoon Lover 98 will always be the best pooper in my eyes.


2:26 i am new to the channel in a i used to watch ytps but they fell out of my style so i am a longtime fan and subscriber however i have recently come back to watch all your commentary videos as i love them


Creators making content for fun? No way! xD


An EmpLemon video is always a pleasant surprise

I want you to know that I respect your content - thanks for the quality  entertainment


when somebody gets popularity, you will get hate from jelous zero-talent wannabes


Good thing he actually made an ad slightly interesting, and telling you what it does other than "raid shadow legends is GREAT" screaming at the top of their lungs


Your ytp career is eerily similar to how critics view weezers discography


I, for one, enjoyed Uncredibles, and Frying Nemo.


Is it just me or was heel Doink in 2003 actually a great run?


Hey future steve, hope you see this somehow, maybe through comments history or binging old videos. Hope you're happy with the decision you made, the one I haven't yet.


Wondering if Emp and Stuart ever buried the hatchet.


I guess I can say new vegas was right after all .

"Respect? Finding it though, thats not the hard part, it's letting go......

All emp wanted was respect and now he has built up his YouTube empire to take it by force. It’s like he had it all planned... it’s almost as if...

...The game was rigged from the start.

no wonder emp's editing software is sony <b>new vegas</b>

no wonder emp's editing software is sony *new vegas*


I just realized after seeing schafrillas did ytp that 1/2 of the channels I'm subbed to used to do ytp. Wack

former YTP youtubers are very good at editing, their videos have the production quality of a companys video but the soul of a small youtuber


“And that’s down, down, down...”<br>To the bottom of the sea, we’ll hook up with spongebob and his snail Gary?

“And that’s down, down, down...”
To the bottom of the sea, we’ll hook up with spongebob and his snail Gary?


He explains the downward spiral at 14:57


WOW, This was one amazing video. As a modern day Youtube Pooper myself, I will confirm there has been more YTP Drama now then there has ever been. YouChew has now been replaced with ytpmania.net, Which is a good YTP Forum site, but however, the stuff going on recently in the YTP Community has made me question weather i should stay around or not. So far specificly in 2019. Theres been doxing, suicide attempts, dislike bombing, spamming, and so much more all over YTPs. At this point in time i ask one question

WHY On EARTH do people take YTPs so seriously, They are just made to be fun video's, They are jokes, they are made for comedic purposes. But apparently the modern day YTP Community thinks that what a person puts in their YTP reflects how the person is in real life.

For example i did a YTP called the Battle of Ferns Bladder which was the YTP That started MY Downward Spiral. It was a Veggie-tales/Arthur cross over. The plot of this story based YTP Was the character fern from Arthur get's a tumor in her bladder, and Larry boy from veggie-tales has to shrink down to go fight the tumor. It wasn't a very well edited YTP But still it was a YTP, A joke. But because of that 1 Video, people turned on me saying i had a sexual fetish for Arthur Characters and that i was a "Pedophile" This was the start of the hate towards me, This was 2017 and i'm still dealing with hate from that. Including getting doxed which did happen recently.

Honestly i could care less about views or subs. I don't even think my YTPs are all that great. I just want to run a channel in peace,

You know it's interesting theres a new meme circulating the YTP Community called "YTP Is Serious Business" which in all honesty it's not. YTPs are NOT Serious business. There just remixed video's for the purpose of entertaining.

 And in the time i'v been making YTPs i'v dealt with so much drama and crap that i'v legit wanted to quit many times, Why haven't i yet, because i still enjoy making YTPs and right now i still have tons of idea's. I guess my argument is why stop what you love doing because of drama. Isn't that running away form my problems,

Many Youtube Pooper's have quite due to drama and stuff like this. But i won't quit due to some haters, and no one should. The people who stand strong when they get hate are those who gain respect. I still get hate but i'm not going to let it get to me. I'm gonna continue doing what i love to do regardless of the hate.

ytp criticism make no sense at all, isn't ytp about making random shit. I guess ytp evolves into something else

I had no idea the YTP community was like this. I've been making YTPs for about a year now but never really got involved with the community. You're absolutely right! They're just silly videos people make for fun. Sometimes I take them too seriously, like I have to make them all high-quality but that's really not the case.

So that's why so many ytpers have quit? What a waste.


Me: What you've gotten complaints?

EmpLemon: complaints... I can handle, what I can't handle is COMPLAINTS!

Me: wait that doesn't make sense...


I’m late to this party, but from the way you describe the YTP community, it sounds like it has much in common with the punk or black metal movements in the late 20th century.

They began as counter culture to decry the establishment and wanted to stay underground to remain authentic or true kvlt while rejecting any bands or creators that get popular or “sell out.”

To continue with the Punk analogy, I guess you could argue that you were The Clash of the YTP community, and your Pixar YTPs being your London Calling and your Simpsons YTPs being your Combat Rock. Now a days punks look fondly at those two albums and I’m curious if old poopers will do the same to yours.

Sorry for any spelling mistakes and the such, just thought I’d give my observations.


This video is well made, but I'm not quite sure why you needed to make it in the first place. You're responding to only a few comments worth of criticism that seem to have caught your attention, from what I perceive as being some misplaced duty to defend yourself and your platform. The youtube poop community has always been a relatively small one to begin with, and getting hung up on those types of comments makes you look insecure and doesn't paint your channel in a good light. The best thing you can do in this situation is to take such criticism with a grain of salt, or ignore it all together. I think what you perhaps grazed over is the primary reason people are complaining is because you just stopped making YTP's as much and shifted your focus to other types of content. Those types of people will exist in every single community, you know, the ones who whine and complain about creators selling out, not putting any effort into their content, or changing their old formula in a way that makes the diehard fans mad. But the truth is, the only way for your videos to succeed, moreover you as a creator, is to continue moving forward and putting 100% into making what you love. I understand making these types of analytical videos can be fun for you and while they are earning you views, it's not worth the negative affect it will have on your channel in the long run. You don't want to end up in a Boogie2988-Like death spiral yourself.


Dang, Sour fruit king is really holding it in.


The YTP era was something unlike any other. The modern meme was crafted from that clay, to a point where memes have actively landed someone into the presidency against all odds.

You were there Emp.
You were one of the pioneers.

Your content shaped the modern net, along with Walrusguy, Mobros, Hurricoaster, and all those other legends that faded.

You stayed.
YOU adapted.

And I'm glad that you listen to criticism, especially when you know it's baseless.
There really is nobody quite like you, Emp. Never forget how many people love you man, and keep it up.


7:07 (Types up an entire essay)
Me:  hmyes... very commecial indeed

7:07 (Types up an entire essay)
Me:  hmyes... *very commecial indeed*


1:45 you accidently targeted the wrong person you should’ve said it to the Paul brothers


This feels like what happened to that jigglypuff guy at melee… <br>I guess you are “Too Real” for them

This feels like what happened to that jigglypuff guy at melee…
I guess you are “Too Real” for them


What an Incredibles story. My life has come full spiral.


emp. Please continue your Never Ever series. It's great content.

P.S: even though some Youtube poopers are gone, the YTP community is honestly dying.


Why the fuck are we stuck with you?<br>Because you are what we need. I never cared or heard of Dale or Hungrybox but after watching your videos, I realized how I've been missing the best stories of our generations.

Why the fuck are we stuck with you?
Because you are what we need. I never cared or heard of Dale or Hungrybox but after watching your videos, I realized how I've been missing the best stories of our generations.


This was a pretty cool Come up story ngl


This feels like a dark superhero backstory


Will EmpLemon ever Fry Comments again? That's what I am thinking.


As someone who was introduced to YouTube poop back in 2013 because of you incredible videos, i can say they were the funniest thing i had seen on the internet at that time and still think about those videos 6 years later. I don’t understand why you got so much hate and i guess it can be chalked up to a combination of jealousy, misunderstanding and a small but real amount of understandable criticism. I wasn’t pissed off when you stopped making YouTube poops in fact i enjoy your new type of rant videos BETTER than the poops because it is so much more clean and refined. I genuinely appreciate the effort you put in and glad that you unlike most other you tubers don’t just explain away comment dissatisfaction as “hate” or “haters” but actually take an in depth analysis into it. Keep up the great work. 👍


And you call this Frying Comments, despite the fact that they are obviously grilled?


Who else thought that when he changed his name to "emp lemon" it looked like an alt account


I feel blessed knowing i recognized the weather scan music


People want YTPs back<br>But I want that MinuteMemes back

People want YTPs back
But I want that MinuteMemes back

Careful now, making memes might tie you into right-wing white supremacy, is what Fantano worries about.

I want thatistheplan's meme review back. 😥


Did he change the thumbnail for this one? I don't remember it being so good.


upsetting that a guy who looks up to his idol (who is a skunk furry btw), has gone into a 4-year depression because of his idol.


You're fucking awsome man! Ive been watching you since day one dude! love you man! i use alot of accounts so like 6 of ur subs are me sorry about that


been 2+ years emp, wheres the next part of the series?!!!!!?!???!?!!


The villains are just as interesting as the heroes


The source of the problem is rather than ignoring idiots, you decided to fight back against masses of idiots. Its not any different to talking to a brick wall. If anything you could have just took a massive hiatus or made an alt account nobody knows.

And when it comes to respect on the internet, there is no such thing.


- FALLING INTO A DOWNWARD SPIRAL AS USUAL!<br> - I COMPLAIN, VIEWER. THAT'S WHAT I DO!

- FALLING INTO A DOWNWARD SPIRAL AS USUAL!
 - I COMPLAIN, VIEWER. THAT'S WHAT I DO!


There was actually the same genre in Germany. But we call it ytk (YouTube kacke) it's crazy the same happened to the German community.


man that commenter got under your skin. glad he apologized.


i think there's some type of psychological phenomenon when it comes to seeing someone else being successful. you wouldn't get jealous over a person who you don't know winning the lottery, because you don't relate or know them on a personal level. but if it's even as simple as a neighbor that you occasionally talk to winning the lottery, that's where you start becoming jealous. because you think to yourself "Wait I've done the same thing to! And yet I didn't win anything and this person I knew won??? That's unfair!" it's just a simple form of jealousy but it can really screw innocent people over just because some people are bitter. I dunno, maybe I'm just talking out of my ass but I've seen this scenario play over and over again so many times in many different communities it's abysmal. even in smaller communities you can see the resentment and jealousy of others over them being successful.

this is especially true in something like video creation. regardless of how good or bad your content is, as soon as a video you've made gets a small taste in popularity, the community (even a friend group) you were a part of will have some people slowly resent you over your success. sorry you had to deal with that bs though.

@Mrnat that's true as well actually. it's essentially like persecuting the witch. except instead of being accused of witchcraft, you're accused of ruining someone's hobby because you brought the hobby an unusual amount of attention.

I think it also has to do with betrayal, or what is perceived as such.

These communities are usually niche, so why would an individual suddenly receive unprecedented popularity/success from doing the same thing as everyone else? They must be a traitor, exploiting the hobby. So the community ostracizes them.

Additionally, the community might enjoy being exclusive and niche, because that gives the feeling that they're part of something special. Popularity would draw more people in, reducing that exclusivity.


20:07 woooaahhhhh schaffrillas made ytp's? damn, never knew. i started watching him a few months before avengers endgame came out and never had any clue.

learn something new everyday

And AMVs and parody songs- mostly about Shiny.

I should've guessed,his profile pic screams YouTube Pooper

he has way more ytps than Movie reviews

if you scroll just a bit too much you will see his poops


Your King Harkinian impression is spot on.


awh :’) you’re like a ytp child star who burned out weird<br>we love you emp 💛 hope you’re doing well

awh :’) you’re like a ytp child star who burned out weird
we love you emp 💛 hope you’re doing well


I very much relate.
You see, i too started Youtube making YTP (in French, right) but i was a real nobody.
It's a bit later, when i switched to making ''funny'' gameplay video for me and my friends, that my YTPs got a little views, but i ditched that channel.
Now i make serious videos (not on this channel) and i'm kinda started making a name for myself, in some ways.
Your videos are great btw.

That happens.<br>In the YTPH community, one called Monsterciel started making them, then he retired and started making reviews. Later on he started hating his old videos and tried to delete them but people reupload them, so he decided to take them down until he realized that was pointless since someone else would upload it then.

That happens.
In the YTPH community, one called Monsterciel started making them, then he retired and started making reviews. Later on he started hating his old videos and tried to delete them but people reupload them, so he decided to take them down until he realized that was pointless since someone else would upload it then.


I wonder if this was a one off series just to explain the backstory a bit <br>not that i'm complaining

I wonder if this was a one off series just to explain the backstory a bit
not that i'm complaining


Wait ! What the hell was the satisfying answer you got from him at the end ?


you may have lost the respect of all your fans, until you found us


You can never know when the YT gods shall bestow upon you views.


Also, wow. This YTP thing is quite the thing apparently.


Everyone wants a boogeyman but when you rise so high you become the boogeyman you finally know why the last one left .


The internet is wild, but i have a itchy feeling it's much more wild before YouTube, when flash was alive, and Newgrounds and 4chan were... something or uhhn i dunno.<br>Either way deep video, for some reason it reminds me of the global car industry, since it is a bit of a cut-throat bussness trying to make the best car for the average blue collar man or woman

The internet is wild, but i have a itchy feeling it's much more wild before YouTube, when flash was alive, and Newgrounds and 4chan were... something or uhhn i dunno.
Either way deep video, for some reason it reminds me of the global car industry, since it is a bit of a cut-throat bussness trying to make the best car for the average blue collar man or woman


Am I the only one who thinks the YTP news business sounds way too much like drama alert, even in concept alone?


I have a complaint:<br>you haven't been having a fun time, so just have a fun time

I have a complaint:
you haven't been having a fun time, so just have a fun time


but what are the qualities that make a ytp good or bad?


Reminds me of a quote I read off a Magic the Gathering card titled "Rancor" it reads "Hatred outlives the hateful."


3:24 holy shit I thought those were his eyes lol


I'm kind of amazed you aren't as closely related to It'sAGundam. You guys sure would have a lot to talk about and share.


Alternate title: I'm done with YouTube Poop


As you proved with Dale Earnhardt, people who are the best at what they do, are hated the most for what they do.


Why the truck are we not stuck with more people like you?


Someone throw a fishing line down the whirlpool because we’re pulling EmpLemon OUT


Been here since before you stopped your ytps, around the time before the downward spiral even, never complained, loved all your videos, and i never saw all the hate you got, only really found out today.
Seeing your previous videos i saw your reasoning for what you said, and i liked how you saw things, and i ended up sticking with you for a long time.
This opinion hasen't changed over time, and i only today found out how interesting this might be, now that i notice the problems and complaints you were facing over so long, always had respect for your work, but today i think something clicked, and i found a way to explain that.
By some point i stopped just seeing what you made, and started being interested in what you were doing and saying as yourself in your videoes, how you go about informing everything in the rant videos and the downward spiral, even got my handle on memes by watching you, i started editting images heavily online while having your videos in mind.
Point is that, Seeing people on your side like this after what now looks like people making a hatewagon for you for 9 years, it warms my heart and it makes me honestly satisfied, satisfied in seeing someone else similar getting the awnser or the respect they have been working towards for so long, that feeling is one of the best kinds i think someone can feel without really knowing someone else personally, aslong as you have a good view of them.
Thank you for the work you've done, and i coulden't be happier for you.
Climb your way out of that downward spiral once again, Emp


Stuart K Reilley has comments and likes/dislikes disabled. Emplemon doesn't. Who do you think deserves more respect?


The YTP community has fallen. Pretty hard.


The only people hopping on a bandwagon was the ytp community, thats the sad part of all good things. There are elitists who pretend like their cool and dumbasses who blindly do whatever they are told by said elitists. I'm sorry you had to deal with all that shit. Everyone deserves to be heard, no matter how insignificant the complaint. I respect you, and always will and somehow some way I hope that means something to you. Just came back to this video for a quick nostalgia trip. Thanks for making new content, its really great. And thanks for fueling my childhood with hilarious videos.


Sometimes I feel like the only way to get everyone to like you and respect you is to say nothing negative to anyone. The crazy thing is that it’s free game to shoot negativity at a third party, which actually rallies people who will support that cause of hating another. Give constructive criticism, or just have a bad day towards the wrong person and they will make it personal with a goal to make everyone else hate you too.


Emp, I don't know if you will read this, but plz show that satisfying answer you got. Not just for the curiosity of it, but I relate to your history in so many ways, I wish I could see what have made you move on felling complete.

I highly agree. I mean, not only all that but he was practically setting us up by saying he didn't get a clear answer and just when the anticipation for the answer was the highest as he stated that he had received one, he doesn't even show it. I feel this next statement is obligatory, but I enjoyed every other aspect of the video except this one part.


The main issues with your ytps that i see is they keep getting taken down by dmca.


"You die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."


so...this video is about how the top part of the backwards spiral is...or ... was...

good job :)


Emp even if no respects you I’ll respect you. My first video of yours was your Behind the Meme video. And I’ve never been the same. So thank you for some of the best content I’ve ever seen.


Oof, when he talks about being a middle schooler in 2012 watching poops when I was starting college also watching poops, IM A BOOMER


Im gonna need some merch for the downward spiral, ASAP


"Why the fuck are we  stuck with you"
Wow............ damn

"Why the fuck are we  stuck with you"
Wow............ *damn*


Just make yt poops again. But this time with real youtubers.


you know what, even if lemons are sour, i still love them. you’re the best Lemon


You're not alone friend.

You know Mr. Enter, the guy you mocked for having cynical tones/negative reviews? He's in as much trouble as you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xctEF8BE61M

Also, I don't want to sound like a douchebag, but I don't think mocking cynical people is funny anymore when the mocker is clearly not in a happy mood. It's best to solve one's problems than to mock someone else for things you're guilty of, like cynicism.


I fucking miss your ytp's man.. they were so god damn funny, idc about the drama, i just wanna giggle to dumb edits on youtube, if you ever come back, i'll support you. :)


Jesus Christ these people are elitist, can’t they just be happy that other people are succesful? This whole community just sounds very toxic


Thanks for sharing your story!
From YTP's to controversial content.
The path was paved with complainers and a dedicated troll.
But you managed to out complain everybody, and turned the tables around by consequence!

I shit you not, this was inspiring af.
It gave me hope with my petty yet difficult life problems.
If you can do it, there isn't much excuse for us not xD

Although I don't make video joke art, or run a respectable YouTube channel, I can identify dealing with haters. Never thought that they could hate me for the opinions that I hold, and getting framed as the establishment when and if I get popular. So again, thanks for this insight.

I guess all I'm trying to say is, if hate is temporary and YouTube comments are forever, then I hope this comment will be a testament to how I and others appreciate you right now. Here's to more content in the future, regular or not!

Good luck with graduation, and life bro!

Sub to poods <3


7:15
imo i'm more amazed if you can say that with a straight face


honest to god this is one of your best vids


One of if not the best video on this channel 💯💯💯


Do you make a lot of enemies, or do you just take the opinions of random, obnoxious strangers too seriously? Posting a stinky comment on YouTube requires no effort and no accountability. Unless there's a compelling argument being made its just not worth worrying about.


Life is a weird journey. The path we take always has obstacles we have to overcome. This video has multiple meanings for me. I took something out of it that'd help me. Thank you for the time and effort you've put in this video. It shows the person you are and shows how human we all are. There's always one hard thing in life, the thing that challenges us. We are all human and all strive for something. We all have passions and desires. Even if something you want is taken away you should still push on for the possibility of something greater. This means a lot to me. Thank you. Thank you so much for the time and effort you've put into your videos. Your journey has had some pains but this video is a masterpiece in my opinion. It doesn't fill my day up with 30 minutes for it to be over faster. It made me think about my life and goals and the one person who I love more than anything else. Again thank you so much EmpLemon. You're an amazing person. We all are. The bitterness will always be there in the world but seeing past all that can truly show what a wonderful world this is.


For some reason this video reminds me a lot about the song Answer by Tyler the Creator


Me: Downward spiral?
Lemon: Downward spiral.
Me: Awwwww yeahhhhh.

Me: Downward spiral?
Lemon: *Downward spiral.*
Me: Awwwww yeahhhhh.


23:23 yeah I just need constipation pills...


That's just heartbreaking.....you know that what led to the Downward Spiral was thing you very much loved. That Stuart guy was a hell of a backstabber.

After watching this video, I now have a new found respect for you. In such, you have gained a subscriber from me. Not just for your content; but you in general.


ngl 23:23, i cracked up so hard at that wtf


you said this was a series c'mon man just make another one then


yeah i think you're about the best youtuber right now.


"I was fine going along with this video until you said a thousand percent instead of a thousand times. I can't stand behind such an error. For that, dislike."


It's sad to see YouChew being that toxic. Keep up the good work, Emp!


Idk about all y'all, but theres a fine line between critiquing someone, and just being an asshole. The guy who is all like "why the fuck are we stuck with you?" happens to be one of those assholes.

Simply put, if you don't like a video, don't straight up go to a guy and be like "you're just hopping on a bandwagon, why are we stuck with you, lolol", and so on. Honestly, it's a little immature and hypocritical if you can judge someone for what they're doing, but won't judge your own self and what you're doing. Some trolls are hilarious, but those type of trolls need to seriously reevaluate their lives and what they're doing. Honestly can't tell who is a sociopath and who is not nowadays.


Then he just nonchalantly became the best media, nascar, YouTube, conspiracy documentarian


Oregon Trail as bandwagon analogy? Nice!


Success apparently meant a bucket crabs situation.


good video and all, but that dashlane ad really caught my attention. i mean, when you're at the point of getting like 30+ accounts online, you start to think about this stuff ya know? and the IP thing is the icing on the cake!


EMPLEMON WONT POOP ANYMORE?! DUDE YOU'LL GET SICK. GO TO THE DOCTOR.


I'm going to throw in my two useless, fake, cents.

I think that when you're the underdog, when you're a nobody, when you're just part of a formless mob of people that identifies with something (in this case a community, the YTP community) it's easy to just "punch upwards" and complain about the "establishment", while forgetting that the establishment are just people.

However, when you move from one side to the other and now you're the one being attacked and criticized you suddenly realize that you're just a person and now it's "You" vs "Them" and, again, it's easy to forget that it's not just "You" vs "The World" because it's still just a bunch of people. You felt like you were under attack from the community but it was just a bunch of vocal people who disagreed with you, or misunderstood you, or were jealous of you. By attacking the community a lot more people felt attacked even though they didn't do or say anything to you directly.

When you say that nobody has ever been able to give you a good explanation for why you're hated so much by the YTP community I think it's for good reason. I don't think there is a distinct cause to be found, even with this comment I don't claim to have found the cause of anything, this is just the most logical thing that comes to mind when I think about it. A lot of things just happened with the perfect timing to brew a storm. A bunch of people who didn't like your video decided to be vocal about it, you had a sudden boost in popularity, you happened to use different source material from other Poopers, you started caring more about your channel and decided to put in more effort, etc... from there once the wheels are in motion you can't really stop them. Hate brings notoriety, notoriety from people that hate you brings your video to the attention of even more people that are most likely going to hate you and the cycle continues. To me this looks like a perfect example of the Internet Hate Machine at its finest.

Edit

Ok, immediately after I wrote the comment I un-paused the video and I found out you did get a good explanation about the hate from that dude, so maybe my comment will sound kinda stupid by the end of the video but I'm too lazy to edit it or change it to something different. I'm glad you had some closure about it and I'm also the glad the guy doesn't hate you anymore.


19:05 For the shitstorm that you hold him responsible for, you act as if 19:03 is a good response. `9:00 guys ir giht.
'offensive jokes' have nothing to do with that. 'poitngant satre' of people having 'nucklear bad tkaes' (you are the final and eternal arbiter, dispensor of justice and truth) seems dumb.

Anyway I think that is taking it abit too much to heart, I know the question (i remember since tb) of the effects, and reprecussions on ppl of internet fame and disagreement, especially the context and the way it is taken and understood, it's amount, basically alternately either the guy criticized or the ppl who do it with an actual personal obsessive hatred or both going rly crazy, feeding off each other in this well, downward spiral.

This is especially if there is some history related to major events in either case that cuae that. To be honest, my apparently offensive style of criticisms or distance here or under 1 other video potentially (the nascar one) might be interpreted here as part of that hatred, whichd be a part of things thatd set ppl off. People are also protective of internet personalities causing lashing out.


Nobody:
Literally nobody:
The first part of this video: "stuffing your face as usual." "I've gotta have a good meal."


me 1 year ago: what? never been through this...

me, after experiencing the worst youtube threads of my life: *Sobbing* its true!..

me 1 year ago: what? never been through this...

*me, after experiencing the worst youtube threads of my life:* **Sobbing** its true!..


You know, this video has inspired me to give YouTube Poop another try. Thanks, Emperor. <3

Always seen ya in comments dude, so now imma subscribe

LeeTheNPC Great, you just gained your sub. Hoping to see what your next ytp will be like

@Mr Conroy46 making, I made one before on my old channel, but I overthought it and burned out after using Vegas for the first time. I might stick around longer with this newfound inspiration.

LeeTheNPC good on you, are you making or watching?


Hey, the only thing for sure about EmpLemon. Is that nothing’s for sure.


JFC you're whinier than Mumkey Jones but I still really enjoy your stuff. I sent my dad your documentary on Dale Earnhardt and we reconnected for the first time in years because we had something in common to talk about. Thank you.

Even though I have no relation to this whatsoever, I just wanted to let you know that someone appreciates your heartwarming comment.

Thank you for this.


I loved your YTPs, and it's a little sad to see you've drifted away from them in this manner- but at the same time I deeply enjoy your new content as well.

Besides, as you've stated, you've definitely carried over your editing skills from YTP and it shows for sure. The little 'commercial breaks' and random quirks you place in your videos give me that little dose of YTP amongst your relatable complaints and completely intriguing dives into 'mainstream' media I once never gave a thought about. For the longest time, WWE and Nascar both kinda disgusted me, but your documentary-style videos opened my eyes to why people enjoyed those things, and why they were deserving of that enjoyment.

I don't know if you'll see this, Emp, but I support you whole-heartedly in whatever new endeavors this channel takes. Your brand of humor is one of my personal favorites, and it shines through in everything you chose to do.


Well, I'm surprised you changed how I looked at ytps. I'm not saying they're bad, but It just seems from what you said is the higher ups of ytp are just people who wanna stomp growing channels out for growing nearly popular or even more popular than them. of course, as all things do, there are big channels in ytp that want smaller channels to grow, for example, you!
Tbh, I was thinking that i should try my hand in ytps, but I think i should try to focus on being flexible with my content.
Thanks for the video, EmpLemon! I hope to see more Never Ever episodes!


to think, I've been a viewer for 8 to 7 years now... god, I feel old.


wow your sellout part is super entertaining


You were trending because you set the trend.


As someone for whom all this drama sort of blew to the side of, despite YTPs having been a childhood cornerstone, this work was clarifying and enjoying to watch .. up until the fact: dikekike left without so much as a goodbye, hit me like a train at 17:02

Nothing a good cry suppresses tho, after that video quality was right back on track, pun intended.


At around 7:04, I can see that content creators CAN'T just make what they want, because of the backlashes.

That's a shitty claim to say, on my end.

Do what you want, even if young Jimmy says that "ur vidz succ azz."

Oh yeah, I'm also a loser, so ignore this comment, if you want.


Emp, this is your best video yet. Even better than the SpongeBob one. Even better than the Leafy documentary.

I feel like this could teach alot of people about the social culture of the web and what it feels like to get hate. I've only really been on this journey since early 2018, but I'm very happy that you've learned so much from these experiences. Keep doing what you're doing, Emp. The downward spiral is just beginning. ;)

Nah,  the SpongeBob one remains the king.


i love your poops man, no idea what the fuck they're on about


umm... can I still get one of those Downward Spirals?


Youtube poop is dead and thats ok all "art" forms usually only matter to a target audience and that audience has grown and moved on it was many peoples babysteps into editing.


i'd like to know if stuart k reilly saw this, it would be neat to know his thoughts on it


Honestly, YouChew was always an awful forum and I'm glad it's gone. Even Stuart admitted relatively recently that he hated YouChew and its community.

The thing is that Stuart was a major reason why that Forum was a piece of shit in the first place. He tried to haphazardly find an excuse as to why he acted that way recently, but the truth is that he has always been and still is a bitter and jealous individual.


This reminds me of that Junji Ito manga with the spirals


This was all just to flex your respect on us


We know Stuart has a miserable little life.


Coming back here after your video on homers enemy, now this video is even more interesting.


“I dislike this kind of pooping”  doctor time