Maaaaaan, I WISH I had enough time to make a single video on YouTube. I've been on this website since, like, 2011 or so, and so far I feel so <b>in</b> this community. The drama, the ups and downs of various channels, I feel so amazed by every single one, especially local animators and YTPoopers. I really want to give back and to entertain people as much as all of you did when I really needed that. Just.. the lack of time... Anyway, thanks for being with me, EmpLemon (and all of YouTube in general), I am in love with this community firstly because of how entertaining your edits and videos are <3

Maaaaaan, I WISH I had enough time to make a single video on YouTube. I've been on this website since, like, 2011 or so, and so far I feel so *in* this community. The drama, the ups and downs of various channels, I feel so amazed by every single one, especially local animators and YTPoopers. I really want to give back and to entertain people as much as all of you did when I really needed that. Just.. the lack of time... Anyway, thanks for being with me, EmpLemon (and all of YouTube in general), I am in love with this community firstly because of how entertaining your edits and videos are <3


imagine getting all high and mighty, gate keeping something called youtube poop. bruh


I never was into YTPs, but I had no idea that in that community, there was any "right way" to do a YTP (where you wouldn't be negatively criticized). YTPs are so chaotic, can there even be a right or wrong way?

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That shot of homer looking at the Downward Spiral Aurora Borealis is beautiful.

Kinda like the shitty games in AVGN. There is beauty within every misfortune. Pretty bittersweet, really.

Ironically, that episode  where Homer is sitting on that car is pretty bittersweet as well.


Could you imagine gatekeeping someone out of a community where you take old tv shows and movies and edit them to say bad words because the tv shows and movies they edit to say bad words are too new?

Like I know gatekeeping to a very small degree is necessary to avoid communities flooding with normies but holy shit.


There will be a time where Emp's informative vids will overlap and exceed the views/popularity of his prior poops. I still come back to vids like these to listen to while I play games and generally mind my day. Good on ya Emp. :D


bro wtf how the hell can a genre of video with the actual word "poop" in it have standards? i lived through the YTP era and thought it was all garbage, but i never talked shit about it because i assumed that was the fucking point. lmao jesus christ the internet is a weird series of tubes


Your videos, and many others, since the beginning, had motivated me to make my own YTPs.
(Though I don't do that anymore because I've ran out of content, all I make is shitposts every few months)
But I always never understood the hate that came out from the audience. Really does suck.


looking back on this now, your documentaries are interesting when i hear it come from you. maybe it's how i grew up watching your content, loving it to bits. and now i'm being taught history, life skills, and other things by you. it's like an asmr that i just wanna keep watching. you're a crash-landed alien that made the website better.


I've been here since 2013-14ish. Honestly it's pretty inspiring for a YouTube Pooper to end up making a profitable YouTube channel.


It's interesting to see this after the new video, which somewhat acts as a sequel to this one, has come out.


Here for the 1 year anniversary of the most raw video on emps channel, love you man keep up the fantastic work.


I often lament the state of the YTP community. It's become an endless race to the top fighting for subscribers and views, while frail ego's fracture like the shell of an egg when they realize they can't compete. Frankly, feeling any compulsion to compete in these videos is already a mistake!


Well dude,being honest I’ve always liked your style and you’re one of the people that brought me back to liking ytp again! Funny enough when I went to uni in Florida I did want to hit you up and meet one of my “heroes”,but was too nervous to. Me personally I’ve always loved your content (sometimes the more edgy content made me worry if you were okay or not though),and I think you have your own style which is honestly better lol.


I love how he used that which was once hurled at him, as an insult (downward spiral, that is) and changed it into what is essentially the main emblem of his channel (other than ackbar, of course.)


For the record, I like hearing you talk about things you love just as much as, if not more than, the things you hate.


I really do wanna see more of this series, even if it takes a while to find another comment like the last one. It's a fantastic way of making a comment analysis video unique and I really enjoyed myself here. You're one of my absolute favorite creators and I love all of your videos, keep up the good work.


As someone who used to make YTPs and know pretty much everyone mentioned here, this was a fascinating trip down memory lane and I really enjoyed hearing your take on it years later. I remember watching your stuff when you made YTPs and it's been really cool to see how your content has evolved since then. Love your stuff Emp, keep up the quality content!

Stuart K Reilly was my favorite, I used to annoy the shit out of my friends with Rap Rat quotes all the time. Other than the wiki, I never paid too much attention to YouChew so I wasn’t much into the current events told outside of YTPN.

Christopher Tom a wild christopher tom appears


It really is amazing, and kind of sad (and kind of familiar) seeing how much impact that one comment about you going on a  "downward spiral" had on your content, the fact you use that word so much, and your channel aesthetic.


I actually enjoyed this video. It's suprising that you still continued on, even when you got butchered by the YTP community. Good job,man.


For me emp, youve earned my respect and youve been on an upward spiral for me and many more


This video really spoke to me. I found it painfully relatable, and I feel kinda glad I'm not the only person constantly making shit worse for my self. Thanks. Don't stop making videos, even if it's weird and sporadic.


Wait so you took the "downward spiral" backlash... and turned it into merch?<br>That's some next- level genius shit

Wait so you took the "downward spiral" backlash... and turned it into merch?
That's some next- level genius shit

Extremely late, but reminds me of the origin story behind Daft Punk's name

EmpLemon...the rise and fall and rise again whilst falling so as to become the greatest YouTube oxymoron in all of YouTube history...

This srsly needs to become a video idea...😅😂😍😁


I've just recently discovered your channel and having zero knowledge of YTP or all your community involvement I'm glad to see where you've come out. You ability to story tell and bring historical insight into anything and everything is honestly a gift. People say don't look back, but I'm glad you're smart and mature enough to analyze even that. I hope you current content style brings you even higher in YT subs, god bless man


As someone who used to make YTPs (some on older accounts before Google Plus came), I never really felt the sense that people who enjoyed YTPs were a "community." I started out with Windows Movie Maker on an old account in 2008 and made WMM poops until 2010. I got Sony Vegas in 2016 and made YTPs with my last one being in the Summer of 2018. Both times, the comments were filled pretty mundane stuff like "funny haha" or "nice." I always assumed it was just random people liking random videos made by random people who uploaded these random videos for reasons that always came down to "just for fun." I never thought back in the day people would form a community around YTPs, and for the longest time, I always stood by that initial thought. But, of course, after seeing this, my initial thought was diminished. Looking back, I am kinda glad I didn't make YouTube Poops during the height of Youchew, and I am sad to see how they treated not only you but other content creators and the medium that was making YouTube Poops as a whole.

As for the state of YouTube Poops, I believe they're seeing their days numbered. My friends still like them, but after editing YTPs for years, they'll never be the same as they were in 2009 through 2014 (a golden age in my opinion). Watching YTPs in 2019 is like smoking a cigarette for the millionth time.  You got a kick out of it the first couple of times but now you just cough. As you mentioned in your Leafy video, people who ride a dying medium either have to change up their style in order to keep going or ride it out into the sunset. Honestly, the switch you made probably was one of the best decisions I've seen on this platform. If you would've stuck to YTPs up until this point, I probably would've unsubbed and this channel would probably still be under 300,000 subscribers. I never knew you would to turn out to be an informative and talented storyteller.

There's not many YouTubers that are honest nowadays. Several channels that I used to like are now pumping out click-baity, repetitive, and nonsensical garbage just so they can get by.  To turn a negative into a positive, I am glad to be stuck with a channel like yours. You're talented, honest, and most importantly, respectable. I know you've had moments where you didn't adhere to any of those traits, but you're way more consistent in those traits then a lot of other content creators. I've seen channels small and large fall from grace because they didn't do one single important thing; Practice humility. Even in a video talking about yourself, you managed to humble yourself and understand other people's positions. You didn't come off as arrogant, entitled, or narcissistic, but only as a regular man who wanted decency. No matter what direction the channel goes in, you have my respect. Godspeed, EmpLemon.


Hey mate, thanks for explaining the Downward Spiral.

I was first exposed to it in the Drake and Josh YTP collab.

I'm sorry people treated ya like right jerks.  I know you'll probably never poop again, but I'd honestly enjoy it.

Warm regards either way.


It's sad that the repeated assaults on your confidence and talent have been so commonplace over the years but if there's any one singular piece of gold to glean from such a situation, it's that you transitioned to making content you clearly care so much about.

Emp, I don't know if you'll ever even see this comment. I hope you do, but I highly doubt you will, as you seem like a pretty busy guy. I loved your content back when you were a Pooper. I love your content now, and while YTP has the capability to showcase real creativity, the amount of expertise and finesse you have with explaining nuanced historical topics is bar none some of the most engaging I've ever had the good fortune of watching on the internet. The undeserved wrath of so many people served as your Terrence Fletcher, something I think was succinctly illustrated in the Sympathy for the Villain (which I might add is one of my favorite pieces of media period)

I'm grateful that you are where you are now, because you handcraft genius content that's both educational to some extent (especially in the context of someone like me who is a storywriter, I glean a lot of insight from your expressive ideas when you talk about philosophies surrounding characters, be they real or fictional) and also entertaining as hell.

Every video you create is concise, to the point, but inspiring. You have a clear knack for storytelling, and recounting events. I only lament that there aren't as many YouTubers that are as good as you. I guess they all have their Downward Spirals to go through first before they can be so great.

I hope you hit 1M subs soon. I've never seen someone who deserved it so much.


At this point, i don't think we need a new YTP from you anymore, your videos already have YTP style editing, add to that your insightful commentary and we've got something even more special.

This, this comment sums it up for people like me as well.


I think a perfect line that sort of summates this behavior of trashing on the popular person is 'most loved, therefore most hated', which I remember hearing from Death Grip's 'Hacker'.

It's sort of the hipster mentality when it comes to their favorite thing becoming popular, either by a result of the artist changing their sound or by circumstances beyond their control. Regardless of how, it always seems the moment everyone can dip their finger in the punch of their special something, that's when instead of embracing the boon of audiences who appreciate the punch, they lash out at the punch instead, discredit it in anyway they so see fit.

Granted, acts like Linkin Park or Korn for example do get the necessary criticism of 'selling out' as they mired in the same content they've been known to do only to make a sudden transition merely to chase the new trend, rather than being trendsetters. I think when it comes to your upbringing, I had heard of you actually quite late into your career, about as far back as 2016 and never had seen any of your previous YTP's, which is odd considering that I remember such popular poopers like KroboProductions or SantaWithTeeth back in the late Aughts. It's a bit poetically ironic that the negative energy of those criticisms made you change your style in a way that maintained your relevance because you were able to expand your horizons, the very thing that these people had concerns regarding your material.

It's a interesting philosophy.


You were only 1 to 2 years older than me making YouTube Poops while I was just a viewer. You were still in your hayday when I turned 13 and made my first YouTube account, and subscribed. Time really does fly. I also wish I had your level of talent and knew where to get the program at the time, because my sad attempts at YTPs were extremely terrible and objectively cringe.

I'm 21 now, and still enjoy your current content, and while I've long since past my dreams of becoming a YouTube Pooper (I eventually lost interest in it for good), I now plan on learning how to program video games, how to animate and how to improve my digital art skills (so far I seem to somewhat excel at traditional art). I also would like to learn to make electronic music at some point, and I'd also like to learn to be a good voice actress, and since I always had an interest in singing, maybe I could do something with that too. (Sorry if I sound up my own @$$ or something, I just have multiple different things that interest me.)

Hopefully I do better in my college courses next semester, when I go back to college, than I did previously so I could potentially have a career in these fields. For now, I'll just worry about my current job at an iHerb warehouse as a material handler.

Good video, as always, even though this is an older one. 👍👏

i thought you said 1-2 years old instead of years older and i got confused


This was a great video it feels like a theropy session like you are just venting to us looking for help i love this era of emp


Damn, can't believe we got a video on the hidden lore of EmpLemon


I don't know why we're stuck with you but I'm extremely glad we are<br>I swear you could talk about the most mundane thing ever and I'd still watch the video

I don't know why we're stuck with you but I'm extremely glad we are
I swear you could talk about the most mundane thing ever and I'd still watch the video

Like, I have had my gripes with Emp in the past for the two or so years I've watched him, but a lot of it has to do with that bitchy era of his. And this video honestly vindicates him of all of it. In a proper context, it gives it all reason. It no longer feels like those were lesser videos, but more so a point in his history that you can see him grow from. It puts everything into perspective and now makes them MORE interesting.

As for his overall content, even with my gripes at the time he was undeniably great.
Hell, his "never ever" series is some of the best damn content on Youtube and I will boldly say that.
He starts with something as simple and easily relatable as Spongebob, tackles something challenging but nuanced like Professional Wrestling, and then goes into the completely lost and mundane world of NASCAR and STILL somehow manages to make it not only entertaining, but genuinely informative and emotionally driven. He is astoundingly good at resonating the feelings of otherwise belittled crowds. They're incredibly well researched and well spoken and no one can take that away from him.

My girlfriend, who is stubbornly and still staunchly disinterested in both professional wrestling and NASCAR, succumbed just like that.
She got hooked, and by the time Emp returned to his original point on Dale's death, she had to leave the room.
She HATES anything even mildly depressing and got caught up in how good he was at presentation that she COMPLETELY lost track of the fact that it was a story leading up to Dale's death. Knowing her, these cases just serve as a testament to how great he is at what he does, at least for me.

It's a shame his videos don't come out more regularly, but they're so damn quality that I can't even complain. I'm basically watching an entire narrative story arc in 20-40 minute segments.

Well said.<br>Emplemon is an incredibly well spoken individual.

Well said.
Emplemon is an incredibly well spoken individual.


I’ve been watching your video for a long time. I enjoyed you YTP’s and I really enjoy your new stuff. I can’t understand how someone can hate somthing so much that they feel they have to complain. I understand not liking something but to say they someone’s art isn’t good at all is stupid and subjective. Keep doing what your doing and enjoy it despite others Emp. Love and peace my man

I see a striking ressemblance between elite metal community and ytp community


Please keep doing what you're doing. You are wise beyond your years.


This video and channel deserves as much praise as it can get, and that really says something considering I actually understand this scenario. I'm actually going through something similar to what you did, with people making videos bullying and impersonating me, and it most of these are even worse than when I made the decision to delete my channel (this one is the old one rebuilt from the ground up) with said channels bothering me for the sake of trolling. I already contacted the local authorities because of how far some of these people sunk to, with one of them showing themselves murdering me by editing a clip of Scarface and getting his channel terminated for it. I'm going to make new videos as an overhaul of my old ones to completely rebuild my fallen channel to be even better than what I started with. You, along with so many other channels I've watched, have been very inspirational to me creating this channel so I could essentially do what you wanted to do with your channel from the start: make videos to entertain others. I've had numerous double takes with trusting people nowadays and have found myself looking over my shoulder many times out of fear for my own skin, but I'm still looking for the proper answer I'm looking for but may never get. I reached out to several of my inspirations the second I joined, and that may be why nobody in the BioTube community hates me at the moment (then again, I'm one of the smallest channels, and the people that cyberbully me target my channel specifically rather than my content) but I hope that never happens. Maybe dealing with these issues has caused me to see the dark side of being on YouTube, with people building their reputations off of bullying others under the guise of being "commentary channels," but seeing videos like this makes me turn around to looking to the light side, and hopefully I'll have enough of that to keep me from looking at that horrible crap now. Good luck with college, and good luck with your future content, Emplemon, I salute thee.


The editing from the YTP era really improves your complaining videos and makes something new and original

I know, it's because of how familiar it becomes. I've seen so many YTPs that such a style becomes easier to digest, even if it's crazy enough to be it's own form of art, but I still see where it comes from. It's amazing!

ikr? He still makes YTPs in some small way, making entertaining edits that clearly re-enforcing the ideas he's sharing.

antichicken I can't tell if that's meant to be an insult or a compliment regarding his style.

# this makes me wish I could like a comment twice, so many other drama channels fail at having good visuals to the point where I just turn the video on and play a video game or something whereas with emp he understands the importance of engaging visuals


"we'll be focusing on one comment"

Talks about a ton of different comments and threads

I'm joking, we love you emp


Outside from the YTP community, it seems to me that overall, most long-time Internet users including myself seem to have become so desensitized to content that they're unable to find anything funny (or interesting) anymore, and we just take things more seriously naturally as we grow up, regard older stuff from childhood in one's mind as if they were better than they actually are since our memories are never exact, also not as in the people but the production quality, back then we were obviously more innocent xD


Hey Emperor Lemon, I remember when I first started watching your YTP's with my best friend in middle school and all the times it made me laugh. Seeing what your channel as it is now makes me immensely happy, and that last part when you talked about how you are just finishing college and might do youtube fulltime gives me hope. You always had my respect


Probably one of the most interesting videos ive seen on the site in a long time. I wish this hadn't happened. I too was one of the people that was confused on why the poops stopped. Thinking about this the same thing happened to cartoonlover98. He ended up getting really popular then stopped. I don't think there was any backlash against him but the community was probably up against him since his toy story poops and SpongeBob poops were popular along the time of emps increased popularity. That's also around the time mobrosstudios stopped producing content. Although mobrosstudios is back and making content I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for lemon for pushing through the crap other channels wouldn't be here today and I respect that.


Maybe the real YTP was the self respect you found along the way.


Emp, this is a great video. I love your recent style. You’ve got a real talent


Hey emp, I've been watching you on and off for the past 5 years. From ytp to downward spiral and I think I'll stick around for beyond. Your content has changed but that doesn't mean you aren't any less entertaining to me as you were when I first watched you. I hope you grow as a YouTuber and I can't wait to see what the future holds for your channel.


Emp, if you see this I want you to know I absolutely adore your content. You're so down to Earth and funny


This is how I feel about the community I’m in, at the moment.. it’s pretty inspiring to hear this story.


The dude apologizing and giving an honest explanation was honestly pretty wholesome for me.<br>Hope you have a great graduation day in the near future, Emp!

The dude apologizing and giving an honest explanation was honestly pretty wholesome for me.
Hope you have a great graduation day in the near future, Emp!


Why do I relate to this way too much? Even when the topic in question has nothing to do with YouTube Poop, or even YouTube at all, this is all too familiar to me on a personal level.


now that I know the origins of the downward spiral, I feel bad for ther YTPers that got harrassed and ostracized by the community for very stupid reasons, I hope that Waxinator is ok, wherever he is.  MoBrosStudios is still around, but he is rarely active, that guy has gone through a lot in the past couple of years


Off topic: Man, I've noticed that you have used a lot of Pink Floyd's music in your YTP's, do you actually like them? If you do, what's your favourite record by them? Have a nice day.

@Swarley751 Yes, yes okay. Trust me, I won't say anything, I'm a trustworthy person don't worry

Don't tell anybody I told you this, but Emp was the reason I got into prog rock, starting with Pink Floyd


I will just say that I respect your honestness, and I still occasionally watch your non-YTP content. And I appreciate your insight and commentary.

(I swear he's not paying me for this)

I will just say that I respect your honestness, and I still *occasionally* watch your non-YTP content. And I appreciate your insight and commentary.

(I swear he's not paying me for this)


Simple, you've grown up<br>they stayed childish

Simple, you've grown up
they stayed childish

@Baron of Bahlingen HMMMM? BOMBS? was the only valid meme

@Baron of Bahlingen *_HMMMM? BOMBS?_* was the only valid meme

Victor Parra They liked keeping the same dead Waluigi Pingas Dinner memes

Ikr, its so stupid that they were upset that he changed


I absolutely love the usage of the incredibles clips, they fit so well!


there will Never Ever be a more relatable youtuber like EmpLemon.


Bro I just want to tell you how your one of my biggest inspirations right now in life, maybe I never tried YouTube, making videos has always been a passion. I want to make a difference in the future and be like you that inspire me so we can continue this spiral


I was never into YouTube poops when they were in their prime, but I thoroughly enjoy the addition of them in your think piece videos, they show both sides of your personality and abilities


Hey man, whatever it is that I need to do to keep you doing what you do best, reach out. I have been extremely depressed and the only thing that gets me through the day is the enlightenment I received from your content. Thank you for being the voice that I could never be. Also, you also sound a bit like Oxhorn.


Hi Emp, I don't know when I subscribed to you, it was fairly recently, but I really enjoy your content. And since I too piss off a lot of people, I can relate. You dealt with all this shit (literally and figuratively) very maturely, and I respect you greatly for that. I'm surely no significant person to you and it's been shy of a year since you made this, but just know there are still those of us that support and enjoy your content, so never stop :)


"I really dislike this style of pooping?"<br>Ok, mind if you demonstrate?

"I really dislike this style of pooping?"
Ok, mind if you demonstrate?


I'm here for the editing. No mater how far you thank you've escaped from YTP, they are still in your videos.
15:01-15:31 and 16:03-16:17


Emp, never ever think you are bad or did something wrong man.

Yeah, you complained a lot. But you know what? To me, it was cathartic to hear someone else complain about what I also felt. You were an outlet for me and still are with how my life has been, in and out of dead end jobs because my state refuses to acknowledge I actually live here when I apply to college.

Never change. Keep spiralling downwards, because I am right there with you.

I will always remember that "it's never ogre"


I remember your videos from back in the day, always looking forward to a new YTP. Then a few years later I found out your channel blew up. The thing about YouTube is despite how the big YouTubers try to connect with the width of their audience, there will always be those people and negative criticism. When I originally stumbled upon your shiny new success, I didn't say "nah where da ytps?!1?" Instead I said "Good for him. Despite the struggle and years, he's up there. He may not do what he did anymore but anything he's done is great. I'm glad I'm still subscribed." Shoutouts from 2010, and 2020. EmpLemon is one of my YouTube heroes. I wouldn't be here without ya, man.


I've honestly respected and loved your content since I first started watching it, and I can relate to a lot of what you're talking about. I do hope you're doing better, and while there may be people who dont like you, there are still people like me that still love what you do. Keep on keeping on


This is a late comment ofc, but I just wanted to tell you that you are an influencer. After discovering your content when I was a sixth grader years ago, you’ve inspired me to get into YouTube poops, which got me into video editing, which got me into video production.
You have indirectly led to me starting to make YouTube content, and potential filmmaking.
You are a legend in my eyes.


honestly man i always saw you as a great YTP maker and a great person who cared about the cest pool that is youtube  and its creator. im glad that you can got yourself  together about your state<br>im happy to have  you here

honestly man i always saw you as a great YTP maker and a great person who cared about the cest pool that is youtube  and its creator. im glad that you can got yourself  together about your state
im happy to have  you here


I found the line "I really dislike this style of pooping" way funnier than I probably should have. XD

Now that's just down(ward)right absurd! How dare that joke be a turd! I have expectations -and I will not let them be curbed!


I’ve found that some outsider communities can be this way. When you like something weird it’s a very personal thing. It’s easy to see some people as fakers and call them out for not being ‘authentic’. Idk I think it’s from insecurity


Ironically now that he left he gets his respect adding to a group of respected poopers that left


I don't know how you keep doing it man. I could listen to you talk for hours. Every video is just so well constructed and articulated in such a great way. I have enjoyed how you managed to expand your subject matter while still retaining an intellectual shitposty vibe. Keep it up man, I'll watch all of your videos no matter what.


I feel you EmpLemon. It's always been the world vs me, and I'm generally alone with it.

I try to be nice, throw in some offensive humour to make people laugh but instead I get slammed with hate, being kicked from communities, and then get banned.


Why are we stuck with you?

Emp: "Well let me tell you.."

*Why are we stuck with you?*

Emp: "Well let me tell you.."

[89thAH] ArmA III:Optre Shenaniganus Maximus


This is the kind of 'quality' content I expect from you.


I know there's been a year since the video, but I came here for the poops and stayed for.. whatever else you make, you're a talented man, man.
Probably one of my favorite channels.
Keep up the good work or uh
I'll be sad


20:00 and the best part of this Diaspora of former YTP creators is that the "Style" of YTP editing often goes with them.


I remember watching tons of YTPs in high school and college, and then trying to show my friends some of them, usually resulting in awkward silence and weird looks. Then I'd show them The Non and Un-Credibles, and almost everyone would have a laugh at least once. That broke the ice for some of them, and made for some fun moments. There's nothing wrong with making something people like. What's wrong is making something you hate BECAUSE others like it. And personally I never got that impression from your videos.


Wow I'm surprised how heavily EmpLemom was bashed. Thats a shame, I guess jealousy can make people nasty.

ytp criticism make no literal sense when comedy is subjective.

VG_Grover I’d like to agree but I’ve always tried to say that I can take criticism and whatever, you know try not to show any weaknesses. But after a while, I dunno it just gets to ya man. I can only speak for myself but there’s just a breaking point eventually

Sebo People should be able to make whatever kind of YTPs they want despite criticism, who cares what they think.


Here after Emp sadly deleted all his YTPs. I kind of feel like that was only inevitable. :(

@Trynt33 YouTube tortures anything that doesn't makes them money and the one's who make money for YouTube, well YouTube will just let them do anything they want as long as it doesn't "surpass too much" the rules


I find it ducking fucking hilarious that <br>YTPs have a community with a fucking board of standards

I find it ducking fucking hilarious that
YTPs have a community with a fucking board of standards


I think back to this video a lot. I've been in a very, very similar situation with a community. At least, I felt the same, I ended up in a very similar mental state with such commitment to that dumb community, with what I think was pretty petty drama and attitudes being thrown around. But it was a pretty small community, just one forum. I don't think I'll ever get any answers from anyone there and it genuinely, seriously depresses me. I did try to reach out on my own, I asked a few users, I asked for people to talk and criticise me. It seems like nobody wanted to actually speak to me about why they hated me there. It's haunted me pretty constantly since and shaped my view on entering communities and making friends.

I just envy that you got an answer. I also envy that at least those years served as a stepping stone for you, I only have four people from that community left who I even speak to. Everyone else came to hate me or left me for dead or I cut them out myself (reasonable or not). I wasted a lot of years on some small online community but I'm honestly not even sure how much I did learn from it and I don't think it lead me to much. I don't even know anymore. When I don't even know what I want in life I guess I can't tell wether I'm closer to being happy or achieving anything practical.

But Emp, I respect you a lot. I've been watching for probably four years now, although not quite as much at first, you inspire me. I would really like to say more, but I think that's best left for its own comment. I do still feel awful, but thank you for everything you create. I'm sure I'm not entirely alone in being inspired by the quality and style in your work and observations. I've seen people say that they opened their mind to more thanks to you, if that means anything. I don't know if you still read many comments, and again I'll leave another about my thankfulness at some point- but this video, itself, it makes me feel a little less insane. It feels like sometimes all I can do is hang onto these things that make me feel less insane, and I remember, and I appreciate it. Also, mad respect for being open about and putting forward something like this.

Of course, I understand that this is still parasocial, but I think my overall point stands. Thank you.


never knew just how incredibly toxic the YTP community is, its kinda pathetic honestly getting worked up over things like that


I have grown up with your YTPs and I never knew the amount of hate u got for them. I really respect and love the content you make now. Keep on going.


This video was weirdly relatable at some parts,  and this story is insane. Great video man


I think this may be one of my favorite videos on youtube. It's rare to see someone tearing into their past, reflecting on their situation, their mistakes and how it made the person they are now. There's a great presence of honesty in this video. One that I must not understate. This is something that really inspires me to look back and ponder: How did I get here?


The only thing that's for sure about EmpLemon

Is that he's a great content creator


Everyone: "Will you ever poop again??"

EmpLemon: "No. I don't think I will."

check out EmpLime, he made lil YTP shitpost, I found it a good killer of a few minutes

Edit:
Eveyone: Holy shit! I like NASCAR now
You: when next Youtube Poops

@Salted wait do people actually unironically say poop instead of ytp within that context

@Justramonsanchez when me and the boys notice a cringy meme...

<b>snap</b> heres one for my cringe compilation

*snap* heres one for my cringe compilation

@Yayo' Ariowibowo

Yeah, I figured I'd be the butt of a lotta jokes.

Personally I never subbed to him for Poop. But his poop background accentuates his topical videos really well and keeps my attention.

The Plasmic Alchemist I stole this idea and posted it on twitter, apologies in advance

The Plasmic Alchemist Yes that is indeed what was said in the video.


The whole intro to the complaints section is one of my favorite edited pieces of media just like... in general that I have ever come across. Like it just just hits a certain emotion I didn't even know that I had.


I am glad I could finally learn about the other side of what fame brings in your life. I do remember your old YTP videos, but I guess I took more interest in how well and informed your videos are done. Yes, I had hearty laughs at the random shit you produced, but I cannot deny that, since your retirement from YTP, the quality of your content is perhaps one of the most underrated on this site. It is the right thing to open up on this rather sensitive subject, but the way you handled it with professionalism and patience indeed show that you are more mature than others proved too.


<3<br>I take the story of reconciling with that one guy as the most wholesome thing I've seen on Youtube today. Thanks Emp. We're not here for shallow shitposts, but for deep reflections with genuine heart and understanding. Keep going. No riding into any sunsets. We need you, Emp.

<3
I take the story of reconciling with that one guy as the most wholesome thing I've seen on Youtube today. Thanks Emp. We're not here for shallow shitposts, but for deep reflections with genuine heart and understanding. Keep going. No riding into any sunsets. We need you, Emp.


Looking back, 2 years on.
Its weird
You have certainly Improved since this video and I think things have gotten better
I hope you're doing ok, whatever weird shit you're doing at this current moment


I loved your old content and I still love it now honestly your style has grown with my sense of humour.

Call it cheesy, but EmpLemon has been and may always be the definition of YTP in my eyes.

Pepega Same, over the years emp’s new content has stayed funny


That notebook drawing celebrating 100 subs is so wholesome and cute.


I still really enjoy YTPs even today, it's just that there are very few people making new ones, and even fewer making good ones.


Emperor lemon is a counter culture god. He is a man of artistic talent with creativity. You sir are no longer a child who is here to laugh at mindless fun. There is passion and emotion behind your work and it is such that warms my heart. I was never interested in your poops, i came after that time, but the love for what you do makes us love what you do. Leave us for greener pastures if you must, but never forget who you are.


I love your content and I hope all of this drama doesen't get to you.


Oof...it feels so strange seeing poopers that I like and am even subbed to being so callous toward you.
I had no idea you were so reviled in the community.  Yet here you stand, stronger than ever.
Shows how much you've grown as a person and as a content creator.

Its one of the drawbacks of being popular. There are people will just hate you for your mere existence. This reminds me of a time when one of my mentors expressed how he didn't want to be popular/famous as it draws too many eye. You can't really be yourself or do what you want since you'll have to worry about public perception.

teckworks You know what they say “Never meet your memelords, because they will never fail to disappoint you.” Well, something like that.

Dread it.
Run from it.
EmpLemon arrives all the same.

Oh shit! A yiffer watches Emp?! My summer just got a lot more exciting!


i've realized this guy really implements a lot of the punch line styles and editing styles of ytp in his videos, so that 5 years is justified, because it gave you your signature editing style


I felt pretty bad when you were going through these hard times, I remember it going down. I genuinely liked you YTP content and still do to this day. It is a sad day when a fantastic YTP creator just leaves and ditches making YTPs altogether. I can honestly relate to this, as a sort of creator myself (not a YTP creator, but an artist actually) it just utterly sucks when you're driven to the point where something you used to be so passionate about suddenly dies out and you despise it now. I suppose we can all learn from this, maybe some people won't sadly, but people don't realize what they do is tearing creators apart. I hope within time, that you'll come back to creating Poops. In the meantime, I'll be watching your new content.

I need HotelWeegee and MyNameIsVargas to come back please. Thank you.


Feel glad that you inspired me and loads of others to watch and make YTPs.


Dude, you've never stopped doing YTP. YTP is you entire asthetic, it's why I love your videos. Sure you're thoughtful and the writing is pretty good, but the unique thing about your channel to me is the editing. It's really what sets you apart from everyone else on this platform.


Your youtube channel is TOP TIER in my list Emplemon.
Keep spinning the downward spiral mentally.

Your youtube channel is *TOP TIER* in my list Emplemon.
Keep spinning the downward spiral mentally.


There will never be another YTP editor like EmpLemon


My friends and I were really into YTPs back in the day and watched all of yours but we never really thought they were that funny compared to Durhamrockerz, cs188, dikekike and many others that I know I'm forgetting. We never felt the need to tell you that we didn't like them though. I'm glad you branched out and started making all these other great videos.


making meaningful content as usual, EmpLemon


The fact that you managed to reach out and make peace with one of your biggest haters is great.  Glad I watched this.


15:01 is such a really good skit I love it


Yes! This is my existence. Try tried to break your back, and you set the world on fire. Good! Let it burn, all the little predators running from their holes.

Metaphors aside, I really do love you for this. You wouldn't die. You didn't give and you took those fuckers with you. You're a beast, dude. What a little badass!


This is why after all the channels I've watched, Emplemon will always be my favorite.

I've watched him ever since he uploaded Deepfrying Nemo, sure I'm not a true veteran, but when I first knew him, I thought his YTPs about Spongebob or Pixar Movies were some of my favorite videos, And I even liked Green Simpsons (it was my favorite from the start), even though everyone was complaining, but I still saluted him.

Then His videos did something that made me evolve, this Admiral Ackbar got me into Commentary videos, and I thank Emp for being a gateway to YTP, Commentary, Heck even Dank Memes

This man is my hero, and he's a lot like me, after rewatching this video, He's opened my eyes to some much of Youtube's shitty decisions as propaganda, and I think has taught me more about this site than anyone could

Keep up the great work Emp, hope I can earn about copyright smuggling when the metagame is finished


I've never found any appeal in YTP so to hear that there was drama in such a strange, niche community is kinda funny. I get the whole anti-establishment absurdist thing but it gets old really fast.

The stranger and more niche the community, the harder they engage with drama, because in tiny community everyone knows everyone else, so it's all super personal.


I love this video as a creator. Idk that whole conversation about respect and all of that stuck with me. I really appreciate this video.


Watching this video, and listening to you talk about your personal experiences and journey reminded me of my own struggles and mistakes. I'm glad you managed to leave on good terms with your "hater", it was nice of both him and you to talk things out in the end; and indeed it's a rare thing to happen (especially so since it happened probably years ago), yeah; hate is temporary, but what you say online towards people are forever. Wished I could have watched this sooner. Thanks for the lesson and insight! o7


Everytime you act your own way, this inspires self-steem issues on others used to imitate and reflect community behaviour.

So, they assume you must be superior to them. And this is grounds for agressive action, if through bullying, through shaming, it can even be deceiving intent on minor actions (like borrowing your school stuff and flat out destroying it, claiming they never did)

Believe me, this sick behavior and line of thinking is far more common than you think.


I’ve been a YouTube Pooper since 2015 and honestly you were one of the first YouTube Poopers I’ve watched along with Trudermark and a whole bunch of others but I honestly barely do them as much anymore not because I feel like I would be just “one of those people” and I feel like what you said with motivation I honestly don’t feel that, I just make history vids on the channel, I’ve been questioning on what to do with it and I’ve just been confused. I guess it was fun in 2015 not understanding how to use Sony Vegas.


I fucking love how this origin story is like movie quality levels of drama.


Real talk, the scarily accurate comparison to the Incredibles at 15:00 was both funny and ironic, but ultimately, pretty sad.

:(

@Kippykip :(( aww, is the child slaver's feelings hurt?

“If I can’t be the best, then I can sure as hell be the worst!”

                                -Jon Jafari

Even more ironic is that a incredibles YTP is what got him here in the first place...

I like to think that part is the pinnacle of the whole video

Same here, reminds me of that video elon's heros were talking shit about him with the "Up" music


I still watch your videos because they're insightful and well thought out (except in the rare occasions when the "lol fuck libtards" narrative leaks in), even if it's something I never thought I'd be interested in (like 2/3 of the Never Ever series). I may have initially subscribed because of Uncredibles, but your most recent content has driven much of my appreciation for YouTube's small niche of well-thought-out, well-structured, informative-yet-still-entertaining videos with no strings attached (read: ads/sponsors/sub-begging). As you've said yourself, "Watch videos on this website to be amazed – to be inspired. Watch YouTubers because they're great." And every time I clean my subscriptions, I can never bring myself to unsubscribe from you, no matter how many times you tell me to, and no matter how much you may say things that I disagree with, because, the way I see it, we're on the same side.


Man i really wanna see that "satisfying answer" because now im curious as well to know whats going on! im gonna assume tribalism and move on i guess.


I dont know why but the phrase "why the fuck are we suck with you" just haunts me, not like im offended or anything, more the fact that there is something about that that really hits home. Sonething is just so viscerally disturbing about it.


Tbh you really are a talented editor and have a great way of sharing your perspective. I subscribed to you probably a few months ago just because I like listening to explanation and opinion videos like yours, and you have one of my favorite channels that do that. To hear that you used to make YTPs is crazy bc it shows how diverse you are, and to try to find the bottom of things and solve them, even improving on your own mistakes, is the best thing you can do. You seem like a good person and you're just good at what you do- no better or worse or more or less deserving than anyone else. Thanks for your content.


Honestly, as much as the "fuk da haterz" mentality has become a meme, I genuinely think the hate EmpLemon got from those YTP elitists ultimately came down to jealousy. I can just imagine them thinking to themselves "Why does this guy get a million views while I don't? THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN MEEEE!" But good luck trying to get any of them to admit that.


23:08
So... It's been about two years.
What was the satisfying answer?


this channel has some of the biggest mood changes i think on the whole site, one video he is relaying the history of his channel, another, he's relaying the history of the highest jump, and another he'll talk about a man who had the world in his hands for just a few moments


Hahaha I burst out laughing at how YouTube poop ppl talked. Bro said I repooped that poop for a Collab poop


I love your channel man, don’t ever stop, I honestly don’t care if you poop again or not, I just love your style and personality. Your great man, never forget that


Emp, I think you're one of the only ones that "get it".<br>You deserve a lot praise more than you get.

Emp, I think you're one of the only ones that "get it".
You deserve a lot praise more than you get.


I have returned to this video to say congrats, Emp. You made it to the million subscribers club


To me, you are what youtube is supposed to be. What it's supposed to look like. Your content is unique, and I like it. I'm definitely not disappointed in your work. Good luck out there.


One, if not the greatest video I've watched on Youtube.  Am not throwing it around, lightly. This is the most relatable and emotional video I've seen in a while.


I haven't even heard of "YTPs" until I started watching your videos a few months ago. I've only watched your documentarian (and love them). But this explanation is extremely interesting, and I'll have to go back and watch your old videos. But I feel like it's content for people of a different time.


I think he’s best in the videos he makes, personally. His editing style, timing, use of music, and visuals go really really well with his writing (especially in his Never Ever series).

@Xr2Nightmare he could also call it "All You Ever Do Is Complain"

@KudosK wdymwdym ignore 1yr old comments please i have no idea what i was thinking

@chadderall eh He ain't a stranger to emplemon, if you've watched his BTM video

wavy you need to wipe the white spit off your mouth during your videos. still a fan despite that

Hellow fellow bible beltian/youtube duderino guy

Quality influences inspiring quality content. Glad you see you here wavyboi🌟

Lol you watch emplemon what a coincidence


I have never seen so many well spoken people write essays on editing "poop".

Also, you're great at this youtube thing.


im sorta sad to see that stuart k riley was actually like this because i watched his ytp news show a lot back then. im pretty sure he's changed a lot by now but judging by his recent uploads having ratings and comments disabled his past has came back to haunt him and i sorta feel bad for him.


His YTP days may be over, but it isn't in vain when his video editing is legendary.


EmpLemon you made an ad fun to watch which none of other youtubers do, you added memes to it and it was great and for that I actually liked the video. It just ended on a a really funny note and I loved it. And please release videos quicker 'cause I'm bored. thx


This really cut deep, and gave us a real stream of Emplemon's consciousness.

So where's frying dory


It’s amazing how far you’ve come... it’s impressive


My first ytp I seen from you was Hank Hill's Airport Apocalypse, and to this day I love going back to it.

Funny enough the "why are we stuck with you" is laughable considering most people most likely didn't know who that furry even was.


I never intended for my first Without Pokemon video to get 600k views. I just wanted to make videos I felt like making. Ever since then hardly anybody wants to watch my other videos. I took a 2 year break for multiple reasons, including feeling burnt out. Now my channel is on life support. YouTube's algorithm is funny like that.


Hearing someone refer to you going on a "downward spiral mentally" because they didn't like your funni edit is insane


You know I've been lonely pretty much my whole life, and despite regular attempts to keep everyone around happy and try to be the one that has the respect of others, and it really made me question my sanity sometimes. Why was it so hard for anyone to want to be around me if I wasn't giving them something? I found a lot of connection and relief through this video and I'm glad you made it, just feels great to know there's others out there with similar experiences.

@GRIM <br>I dont even know the ammount of times that i thought that would happen to me eventually.

@GRIM
I dont even know the ammount of times that i thought that would happen to me eventually.

Same, loss of friendships and unfounded contempt from just being yourself can be very painful.


Really glad you got a second wind on YouTube it was so interesting to see your name making completely different content than what I saw as a kid


Sometimes, an apology isn't good enough. Seeing someone go through what you have expressed in this video, wether I hate them or not, always hurts me to some degree. I was actually getting a little emotional towards the middle of the video. I cry when I feel a powerful intensity of emotion overwhelm me, regardless of what it is. Guess that could be anyone, really. The primary Comment of the video had me itching to hunt it down, in turn finding the one who posted it, and speak my mind, caring not how they felt afterward. I'm glad I decided to watch the whole video before doing something I'll regret later. What really hit home was within a minute's radius of 15:00. That whole time, I felt like hurting those that hurt you like that. You are one of few people who can inspire those feelings AND curb them in a single video. Telling us not to hunt down the source of the Comment played a big role in putting out that flame. The apology you got from the same Commenter snuffed what remained of the embers. I hope you're doing well, and I hope you're having fun with your videos again.


i love how long he took to explain the level of petty-ness


Please do more YTP! Makes me genuinely happy and forget my depression. At least for a little while.


EmpLemon was the CM Punk of the YTP community. A diligent worker that was not respected by his colleagues until he lashed out in several "pipe bombs" and people grew to respect him more and more. Nowadays, both Emp and Punk do very different things but both seem happy, successful, and are seen as legends of their fields. That classic image of your icon on the shoulders of Punk sums up the trojection of your channel as a whole.

I'm a long time viewer and I'm so glad that I didn't follow your advice and press that unsubscribe button in 2016. It's been a real pleasure to watch you morph into the great, nuanced, and passionate YouTuber that you are today. Keep up the phenomenal work and godspeed.


Emp, will you ever leave the downward spiral? Will you ever actially consider yourself as having hapiness? For real, it worries me to a degree because despite how much I adore your complaining, it scares me that it'll affect you.


Love your vids. I can’t imagine how crazy your vids would be if you did a few about more sports icons. Your dale Earnhardr Vid is forever timeless.


I have to say that I like all of your videos, specially the complain ones, because I relate to them, but this one has a different taste. I relate to it and also it is great to hear you talk about something that i've been passing as well. You have a very unique view of our society.


I see you tend to be a bit of a controversial figure. Just wanted to let you know that when I was younger, I would refer to you as the "god of YTPs".


Even though YTPs are unable to get popular, I keep on seeing YTP like edits in other videos that I watch, even from people I’ve never seen display any interest in YTPs (For example, RelaxAlax). I guess the art form has evolved so far beyond art that it’s integrated itself into Youtube’s society.

youtube poop surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds the galaxy together

They probably wanted to just move away from the name "Youtube Poop"

You could say that YTPs are subject to... CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!

Channels like iDubbbz are basically irl YTPs

@An_Annoying_Cat In his Behind the Meme video, EmpLemon mentioned various styles of YTP. Perhaps that's one of those styles.

Davis O'Brien im not saying that conventional YTPs are not around anymore, I’m saying that there are new kinds that exist.


don't worry emplemon we all still love you ive been watching your videos for a very long time now it feels like and to this day when i see a new one pop up or one i missed (like this) it makes my day so thank you for that. all hail the downward spiral.


This is probably my favorite emplemon video. Well done, well done.


Wow what a memory trip. It's so often I come across a youtuber I think I've never seen, only to realize it's one of the same guys I watched when I was 14. I never would've imagined that such a weird and obscure medium like YTP is something that I'd look back on with so much nostalgia, but hearing all these names I recognize and spent so much of my time following really hits me. The stupid infighting always bothered me but at the time it felt like the internet was just a really hostile place back then, so I kind of came to expect it in some way or another, and I jumped on those bandwagons too. But every time I see one of those familiar faces putting out totally new content and building on their success, it really brings a smile to my face :)


I respected you Emp, always have since I found your channel and always will, I honestly miss your your ytp's and I was never really part of the ytp community well not at all other than watching and personally critiquing by saying what I like and don't like to myself. And as a big fan of your channel, I forgive you for the crap you said about the fans, I honestly feel inspired from your ytp's to make some myself once I can afford the spare money and time to buy Sony Vegas. This isn't the first channel I've had and not the only one I'm subbed to you on, I've had a channel subbed to you (i don't know exactly when but) since you were still called Emperorlemon, if it weren't for my autocorrect I'd still have you typed out as Emperorlemon.


dathings1 has continued making poops, and they're still great. all hail ellie.


Bro. This hit me on a spiritual and emotional level. I seriously can't figure out why.


I had no idea the ytp community was like this. A lot of creators I love too. Your ytps will always be hilarious though.


Despite all the criticism you’ve received over the years Emp, I appreciate the time, effort, and substance that you put into your content. Although I really don’t receive much criticism for videos, I know their shit; but I enjoy making them. I’m pretty sure I’ll receive some in the future though.

I’ve watched your videos since around 2014 and ever since then I’ve enjoyed your content and the style you’ve made it in, whether it’s commentaries or YTPs. Back then I really wanted to know how to make poops and other edits but I didn’t know how. But I can make them now so I’m thankful for that. I’ve enjoyed making and watching YTPs for years and I most likely will still enjoy doing it for several more years. No matter what happens to you. I believe your content will always be great, so thank you for some amazing videos; and possibly providing me with some motivation to make my own.


Well, seeing a screenshot of me in here was unexpected. You were the first Pooper I ever subscribed to back in 2014, a year after I started getting into watching Poops and served as an early inspiration to get into making them myself. I never hated you or anything, hell, I was one of the few YouChew members who defended you for the most part. Admittedly, I had my disagreements with some of the more broader generalised statements you made about the community as a whole when really your issue was indeed with a handful of specific people within it, Stu especially. But regardless of anything I personally disagreed with at the beginning of The Downward Spiral, I've remained a subscriber and fan to this day and I've continued to enjoy just about everything you've made for this channel over the past 5 years. You've certainly grown a lot with your experiences and I know during your more toxic moments you were still just an edgy teenager who wasn't sure how to deal with that level of attention and criticism, nobody would be able to at that age. You don't need to look to the past anymore, Emp. You've grown and you're doing your own thing with gusto and you should be proud of your accomplishments. I can't wait to see what you do next. :^)


"For honour", that being: You aprecciate/love something/someone and because of the gratitude you feel towards it/them, you decide to do something to express that feeling. In resume: Honour is gratitude expressed in actions. He doesnt understand that you appreciate the community of those times and that you are expressing it by doing these vids as a homage.


I still see a bit of that ytp spirit in you Emp, whether it be video transitions, gags,  video emphasis (like your mention of Mitt Romneys percentage comment on your Donald Trump Meme video, "YOU LOSE"), etc,. I think when you do things like that over mini documentaries and other types of videos can be even better than entire YTPs. It blends humor and analysis, which emphasizes your points in your videos. I'd say you're doing great Emp. Carry on :-)


The downward spiral was just the opposite of what one would suspect. Something like a blessing in disguise.


Just know emp, no matter who hates you, There will ALWAYS be those who love ya ta death. Shine on you crazy diamond


Will EmperorLemon ever poop again?

"Most likely not".

We're talking about YTPs right?

@robloxgod22 Than he really is a emperor known for not pooping after all.


I find YTPs funnier when I’ve actually seen the source material. The humor just doesn’t haven’t the same effect if you haven’t seen the original. I don’t know what’s wrong with using what is known


"I really dislike this type of pooping"

Pretty high and mighty considering they had to type out that sentence


I have been watching your content since point you started to posted the Red herring video. I saw it interesting and listening to somebody who has done research + knows what they are talking about. I saw it supricing to see that there was youtube poop mixed here and there. Coming back to this video over 2 years later, re-encountering again what you had to say about youtube poop and why its not enjoyable anymore. In my honest opininion: People taking youtube poop so seriously to talk about it with one another in critical manner is so self centered and overwhelmingly geeky practise that i could not imagine somebody saying anything else but youtube poop being good or bad (thats all it needs really). Somebody telling "Why are we stuck with you" had to be most heart sinking thing to read at the time and i have my fullest sympathy towards you and your feelings.. as i started watching your content just because you are interesting person to listen.

Thank you, if you put your time to read my random thougts while fingers wandering on my keyboard!

-Imbe


Never stop EmpLemon, the world needs you. I need you.


Of course the guy who's obsessed with a furry skunk turns out to be a bitter, unhinged bully.


The date is 2/4/20, Just saw this video again, and I still am awed by how thorough this video is, and how real it feels.  I guess I feel nostalgic for this somehow. Keep doing what you enjoy, because we all enjoy your work.


Damn, and here I thought the only drama in the YTP "community" was whether or not doing more advanced edits of stuff was still YTP. Like, doing anything outside of the realms of what Windows Movie Maker allowed for. I remember making a few stupid YTP like videos, only one ever made it to upload. It is sitting at 10 years old, 900 views, 2 likes 1 dislike, and a comment asking for me to upload the source video that I used. Doesn't seem like I lost much of anything from not continuing to do it. The only other one I remember making was "Robotnik gets a computer virus" and it involved Mario from Mario Teaches Typing 2 being planted on Robotnik's computer by Sonic. I remember it being very poorly edited. I think it got wiped along with the computer that I made it on. I was using a really underpowered PC for the longest time. I enjoyed doing some of the video edits, I mostly uploaded it to show a friend and he liked it. I am glad it didn't get insanely popular and launch a search for the guy who made the video to make more.


You know, if you DO go back to YTPs in any form, I feel like it's a good way to do sponsors.
I fucking absolutely hate it when Billy YouTube decides to braid Raid Shadow Legends' pubes, but if you're going to do it, I think using YTPs to do it is kinda clever. They don't have to be long, they can still be funny (assuming they don't give you a massive script of boring shit) and you can basically do whatever as long as you probably use the sponsor as a good thing.

Also why WERE the Sempsins green? I don't mind but I just don't understand personally. I guess there doesn't need to be some deep reason but like it is interesting...also hi yes I'm very late good morning how are you


it does suck that all of these haters have broken your passion for such a talent for something that made you into a absolute legend at least in my eyes you were a mad lad with ytps and as long as you can make ppl laugh you have all of my respect


It’s important that we don’t dwell on the past. All we can do is acknowledge it, change for the better, and move on. You’ve made emperor lemonade out of life’s lemons.

Man,The reason I cared for this site was ytp but I didn’t know this community was so toxic


this video made me realize that alot of comments dont think of the youtuber as a person. most comments are just talking to other commenters, almost every time just to get likes and laughs.<br>if theres one guy that can make a 30 minute video about an artstyle i dont like and keep me interested, its EmpLemon

this video made me realize that alot of comments dont think of the youtuber as a person. most comments are just talking to other commenters, almost every time just to get likes and laughs.
if theres one guy that can make a 30 minute video about an artstyle i dont like and keep me interested, its EmpLemon


dude EmpLemon I mega respect you. ever since you made a downward spiral it became so relatable to me to the point of being a religion.<br>I hope to the eternal void in this universe that you can have the ability to create videos that question my reality so hard and are able to sustain your life with money.      (even if I am unable to sustain your need for dosh)

dude EmpLemon I mega respect you. ever since you made a downward spiral it became so relatable to me to the point of being a religion.
I hope to the eternal void in this universe that you can have the ability to create videos that question my reality so hard and are able to sustain your life with money.      (even if I am unable to sustain your need for dosh)


Up until now, I never suspected you had any kind of confrontation from your YTP community.
I had the impression you were a high quality opiniated youtuber.
Godspeed emp


You're a great youtuber, keep at it, I'll always watch


Me: clicks on this thinking the video would explain where the term "downward spiral" originated

Me half an hour later: wiping tears from eyes

Me: *clicks on this thinking the video would explain where the term "downward spiral" originated*

Me half an hour later: *wiping tears from eyes*

@XchampionXFTW Sees I love furry coochie
 with 3 subscribers
Me: Pretty average...now let me check his channel
See via VidIQ that his like ratio is 30% and 10%
Me: Holy f.....

@XchampionXFTW *Sees I love furry coochie
 with 3 subscribers*
Me: Pretty average...now let me check his channel
*See via VidIQ that his like ratio is 30% and 10%*
Me: Holy f.....

@I love furry coochie He didn't mean the actual first sayings of the term, he meant the first person to create the Downwards Spiral (Stuart K. Riley)

Well he did do that if you payed fucking attention.


You honestly just have a gift for story telling, no if and or buts about it. I don't know what a "YouTube Poop" is, I never gave a damn about Nascar or it's heroes and drama, I could give a fuck about basically any topic you've chosen to dive into, but I've been completely engaged and this might be a little much, but damn near enthralled from beginning to end as you meander through the story. Just the way you provide a means to interface with topics and ideas people that on their own would never really have any interest in whatsoever, is a true testament to your ability to get people to care or at least be inquisitive enough to want to see it through to the end. That's a gift that many come close to having every now and then,  but you seem to have that ability with a consistency that is proof of your skill and capability. It's an almost intangible and ephemeral concept to be able to get other to be interested and engaged with, but you got it bro, whatever "it" may be.


As an outsider the fact that the YTP community was so selective blows my mind


While I enjoy your videos and respect your views on popularity and YouTube it’s so hard to take the word “poopers” seriously


Bro honestly, aslong as you enjoy doing what you do in fine with whatever you create, because I know that you will do great


I assumed "Downward Spiral" was a reference to the Nine Inch Nails critically acclaimed album "The Downward Spiral" because its about a man spiriling down to a point of insanity throughout the album

Touring Ammos[Formerly Untitled Name Gang]

He doesn't really reference something fixed as his Downward Spiral, at one point, he used it to make a joke about how someone in a TV show said "The Democrats are trapped right now i-in s Downward Spiral of just being negative and host (short for hostile?)", but now we usually uses it to reference the state of his channel and YouTube in general

It depends.

He's actually had some of NIN's music as background music before, so I wouldn't doubt that he somewhat referenced the album in creating his downward spiral.


Actually I discovered your channel through a youtube poop, first one I watched completely through not sure why I had such a hard time watching youtube poops in the past their pretty good. Gonna fade in the comments now. Bye


hey man, i like you. you were and inspiration. I loved making ytp's event though I was kind of a copy cat and unoriginal. but I tried. thanks emplemon.


I love your ytps and you have a one of a kind style
I really don't get why ppl would get mad at you in the first place
Your recent vids are great tbh
(The Everest one is great i think he made up there ngl)
But i will always be nostalgic for the ytp days
Its like the clone wars
Its over but i will always have the memory


EmpLemon is one of my inspirations to post my dumb videos. Its a funny hobby I make no money off of and I love it. Thanks EmpLemon.


Dude it's precisely the fact that you didn't have a voice in the community that made you a perfect punching bag. A lot of people derive their worth from tearing others down, and cowards like that go for the easy targets that won't or can't bite back.

I'm not saying that's the case for all of the criticism of your videos and all of your critics. But if you were wondering why the response was so strong when you've had so little interaction with the community, then I think that's a factor.


8 months later ever since I saw this video and happens to be that ever since my last comment things have gotten better. I've become mod in the discord I am in as well as in game and now friends with the people who hated me the most after they saw how reliable and good of a person I am. I believe it's only because of this video that I still believed in the idea of changing other peoples opinions on you by focusing on selfvalue rather than others.

I want to say thank you emp
Thank you for showing me a light a in a tunnel that I didn't know that had it.

 Without you I most definitely would have been a way more negative and insecure person compared to how I am now.

Rewatching the video rn and wanted to add that I actually found out why I happened to be so hated before. Apparently the developers of the game of the community I was in saw something special in me and shot me up the rank to where I was the fastest mod ever in that server. It was due to this that I actually was hated.

The majority of veterans within the community were salty or petty over the fact that some new gen joined the game very late and became discord mod so quickly when they have been grinding is the past very hard feeling that they were left ignored. Because of my new relationship with them I became the scape goat for everything as I didn't know what was what and left to "believe" what the elders said only for them to trick me, slander me, and leak dms.

I mean at least it worked out and I endend up a better person because of it


I watched your YTPs way before The Uncredibles. I was just looking for channels who made good YTPs that Viacom hasn't struck down yet and then I found your channel.


Honestly Emp, I would say the only truly valid thing for anyone to get this frustrated about, is the fact that this is so much about personal taste and assumptions.

IMO you were completely in the right as far as I know. Sure, we all wish we wouldn't take complaints so seriously, and sure, maybe it would have been easier to ignore all of it, but the fact still is that when a ton of people ruin a lovely innocent thing that's supposed to be enjoyable, due to elitism, personal tastes, and just overall meaningless crap while your work doesn't harm anyone, that just sucks.

I haven't exactly gone through the same thing, but I have seen way too many situations where people's personal tastes were portrayed just like this, and I think taste is not a valid thing to piss on someone for, to this extent. Sure, some of your stuff might not interest me as much as the next guy, but it's whatever. You're not harming anyone and you didn't deserve to be treated the way people treated you. YTP, among many other things, is and should be nothing more than a great form of entertainment, and entertainment is subjective. To respect another person's subjectivity is to make a better world, honestly. Anyway, just wanted to say that. Cool vid man. Great to see ya doing well, and great to see you confronted things and to see it has been resolved pretty well.

May the spiral continue down the glorious path to hell, with us along to enjoy the ride.


Just once I’d like to end an emplemon video without tears of joy or sorrow or laughter.


The more I think about it the more I think that emplemon was the behind the meme of ytp and that's pretty ironic


Your pretty legendary I love deep frying Nemo seriously you are more advanced than those channels I’m sure that guy doesn’t do anything as deep as you it doesn’t matter what other people say I love you as a creator even if you don’t see this just want to let you know you are way more advanced they are dumpy and your pretty great so keep being great.


I have never been so conflicted in my life. We all wanna get our voices heard, once the "big guys" see the newbies, they're gonna tell them that they're gonna "be big one day". But once that actually happens, they turn on the now bigger than ever newbie. It's like this game of backstabbing, posing your status, acting like you care for the smaller creators, but once said creators become big they'll antagonize you. Their supportive nature really was nothing but a facade, huh? Usually when somebody is hated, people connect that to them being a problem, but people never consider the possibility of that not being the case. It's the reason Hungrybox is so relatable to you, and why you are so relatable to others. While most people act nice on the outside, with a fabricated "nice" personality, true support is as rare as a shallow pond in the desert, and sometimes might even come off from someone lacking a fabricated exterior, instead being brutally honest with everyone, not really thinking or caring about the consequences. I know you might not even find this comment due to the excessive amount of others flouding the inbox, but I know somebody else will, they'll know what I mean.


Some people have ways to climb out of their Downward Spiral, but as for EmpLemon... that's a different story.


EmpLemon is a beautiful flower and I love seeing both him and his channel grow.


Yeah, there can be a lot of drama in the YTP community. The drama with dem hecksters, Totilix, Angel Starbath, Jace Berry, Skittle Jesus and Clankity Clonkity was a good example of YTP drama.


The more cynicism and sarcasm that composes a community...... the more salt and toxicity that spawns from it...... but to be honest every community starts like that because it's mostly composed of people in their edgey phase of their lives and edges.....  tends to cut everyone


I remember watching YTP in middle school, it was definitely the origins of my dank sense of humor


I'll sell my spiral so that everyone can be downward


"Will EmpLemon ever poop again? Probably not."

Damn man, times are tough! Get some laxatives for yourself, or at least see a doctor! :P


The incredibles metaphor was amazing.. everything was super meaningful and felt really deep, thanks for this


"If you ever find a YTPer who gets repeatedly hated as much as I do, I'd be happy to hear about them"

Well, Trudermark is er.....


The phrase "Why are we stuck with you"  is something I mostly associate with the gaming journalism. Like how the hell did half of these people get any clout?


As someone who has been subbed to you since 2013/14 and has been watching ytps since 2010, thank you for this Emp. Very informative. With that being said, I don’t see a problem with flyingkitty. He’s actually pretty funny. Also, a bunch of ytp’ers like DaThings have turned down the path of breadtube and are making ytps from leftist content and I just can’t get on board with that

I know this comment was all over the place, but I just wanted to get my thoughts out there


I think one of the reasons I've grown to respect your YouTube channel over the past years isn't just because I think you make very good videos (the never ever videos are some of the most thought-provoking videos I've ever watched on top of being well-edited)

It's mostly because it strikes a very personal chord with me. I grew up consuming YTP obsessively, and dreamed of expressing myself via YouTube in whatever ways I felt like throughout my early life. And now that I'm 23, I start to feel like that's all a dream no one can respect. I don't tell people I make YouTube videos, hell I've barely even worked on any in months even though it's something I love doing.

But that's what you do that I don't really get from anywhere else - you legitimize making YouTube videos. You remind me that there's something valuable about making silly videos and uploading them to the internet for goofy fun, not just as something to give to other people - but as something to give to yourself.

Of all the things I've ever done, it's some of the better YouTube videos that I've produced that I'm most proud of. Sure, I was born with some natural gifts here and there and I could've had a great career in some lofty, highly respected position somewhere. But I've never wanted that, and I don't even think it's a possibility at this point.

I like expressing myself. I find endless personal value in the process of trying to create a good video. I love more than anything the knowledge that what I'm doing can connect with others and make a positive impact on their lives, even if it's an impact that only lasts the duration of the video itself. These are things that matter to me, regardless of what they might mean to anyone else.

For so long I've struggled with this idea that in order to justify making youtube videos, you have to be on a different level you have to be making things that are truly pride-worthy. You have to have production quality or talent that far surpasses your peers and constituents.

But I think that's what makes YTP so attractive - it goes completely against that idea. YTP says that there is value in taking a clip from an episode of King of the Hill and remixing it to make Hank sound like he's saying absurd, vulgar, or shocking things in a way that is not only unconvincing, but even exaggerating its own unconvincingness for the sake of humor. And that's something even 13 year-olds can do, like you and I once were, dreaming of remixing everything into these absurdist self-made collages.

But that's something you do in a very direct manner (like with the Never Ever series). You point out the meaning in something that people otherwise ignore or write off. And that's also something that's endemic to YTP, the goal is to turn something that once meant something consistent and recognizable and present it to people in a way that brings brand new perspective on what was once familiar.

These are not trivial things. In fact, on top of being justifiable, you could even call them one of the great artistic statements of the early internet age.

There is a voice in my heart that calls me to feel shame for caring about any of this as much as I have throughout my life. And I do, very often. I struggle to remember that the things I do to make myself happy are important, regardless of their nature. But that's something you've helped me to remember.

So I don't think you really have to make YTP, because I think the exact thing that makes YTP so valuable is already present in the videos you are making. You're presenting new perspective to people that refreshes them on things they once took for granted.

And that's not just what a good YTP'er does, that's what a great artist does.


I'm a new viewer here I only discovered this channel a few months ago and never would I have guessed how colorful history was good luck


Every time I see any of your videos I have a deep connection to what you are saying.


know im a month late but this really feels intense. I dont comment much on things but the way you express how you felt and how the attitude changed and how you started to view yourself differently over years, meanwhile still holding regret and the sadness from the criticism you got over time made me feel kinda sad. I think youre an amazing uploader for anything you make. sure some things i just kinda sit through while you rant but for the most part i really listen. I know im no one of importance so me sharing my opinion shouldnt get anymore then 1 like or even dislike, its something you just look over and read during freetime (possibly). But if you do look over this, well, thanks for taking time, for reading it and for uploading content even after the criticism. Id like to see where you go in life, mainly how well your youtube account will go through the years. I feel like you should start getting more views because the way you express your opinion and thought on things is really clear. I love your content, keep uploading. Everything you make is really inspiring (in the sense that it help see more clearly through things) to me and my friends who watch you. Keep up the good work. This video made me feel sad in a sort of good way, to know i can still feel that way about a content creator like i did when i was 9. anyway, keep it up. good job man.


That's some next level auto-analyse / critic ! Good job, you deserve a lot more respect than all the people giving you harsh feedback, and beeing elitist in a genra that is everything else than elitist... Also seeing where you are now (and with some incredible documentary format. The HungryBox one was just a masterpiece. Period.), you diserve ALL of your views/subscribers. You worked hard for it.


HAHAHA! I thought that the ELFan account was you all along!

Oh man, I have made my fair share of mistakes over the years. I think that this is what this whole situation boils down to from my perspective. People who make YTP are generally younger and have a lot of passion about what they do. Your channel can easily become a place of status. In the hands of someone young, passionate, and impressionable, this can derail quickly. I have seen quite the number of petty feuds turn quite nasty. I love to avoid beef and burnt bridges, but I've managed to almost set some afire on almost complete accident with some poorly placed jokes or plain stupid ideas that should have died in my brain. I managed to not do to much in the way of anything that bad at all, though. Those are things that I wished that I could take back, but are more of a testament to the fact of how far I have grown in just the past few years. I'm note sure that I would take them back now, as there are a lot of lessons that I have learned from the results of those mistakes.

What I have come to realize is that the fellow members of the community are also people who are flawed just like me. They all have their weak points and soft spots that can lead to some pretty bad things. In a community so rich with diversity in personage, ideals, and mentality, there would be the inevitable conflict. Sadly, this conflict between people moves to the public stage. People pick their corners and try to "work" things out. In our time, this happened oh so many times. There was sus, reaction videos, story poops, extremely glitched video, offensive jokes, and spadinner just to name a handful of the ocean of conflicts. These played out in realtime through the works of the videos. And people chose sides and burnt down bridges. For young adults/teenagers arguing on the internet would to be wholly civil in almost an impossibility. Adding in a young audience and the permanence of the internet lead to some fiery times.

Pertaining to yourself, you got a pretty raw deal. You had some feuds with the old/now defunct guard that really had you blacklisted as soon as they noticed you. At one time, I think that you were the second most popular YouTube Pooper in existence only to CS188. Cs188 received a lot of flak himself but ignored it and pressed on. You took a more hand on approach. I have found on YouTube that as soon as you address your criticisms, a decent sized portion of your audience is exposed to that criticism and may embrace it. With a large number of old YTPers adding fuel and ammunition to the criticism, it got way out of hand. Words were probably exchanged that would not be exchanged by older, wiser versions of ourselves.

Almost all of the audience probably did not get anywhere near the full context of what you were trying to say in those early downward spiral videos. At a certain point, people love a good epic demise story and wanted desperately to see it. It is cool to see how you turned a bad situation into something larger than it ever was before.

As for a YTP in the future, I would love to see another one if you ever felt up to it. I'm sure that most of your audience feels the same way. I am really, really enjoying what you are making right now, though. Hope all is well!

-Joj

Well said Joj. At the end of the day, we all have to accept that we are all human. We have flaws and we make mistakes. But we shouldn’t dwell on those mistakes and rather embrace them. It’s what makes us who we are. And that’s what I got out of this video personally.


I know im commenting on a 2 year old video but as someone who did YTP for a brief part of my life I'm kinda shocked that there was even any drama whatsoever within a circle of people who make usually nonsensical videos and not much more. I guess I never went deep enough down the rabbit hole back in the day but it's really sad to see that this faux hierarchy exists in every group and community online. I'm not sure I'll look at YTP personalities the same again. Every one of them always just came across to me as someone who was there to provide the laughs and not much more, and whilst I was aware many had other YTP buddies, it never dawned on me that such friendship groups could gang up on individual creators and hold such an elitist view on a such a random for of content production. Especially when almost all of the big YTP producers are now grown up and gone or have moved on to other styles of work, much like a lot of those who were the big players in the 'MLG Parody' style of content creation a few years ago. I guess in the moment at that age, YTP seems like the only thing there is, and will ever be, to some people. Probably down to it being one of the very few communities that seems to un-killable

It's a shame people choose to treat YTP still to this day as if its the only thing that is relevent in the world. And it's a shame that some people today choose to hold a grudge against a content creator who, at least to the way I saw it, was merely cranking out the yucks like all the rest.

I always watching closely as to where your content was heading next after the big Pixar YTP's, and where it ended up was equally as satisfying, but for different reasons. Regardless, the content today is as entertaining as it was back then, and that isn't something a lot of people can pin down on this site


"I couldn't give less of a shit about Dail Earhart! All emplemon does is complain!!!!! Usnubbed!" proceeds to complain about it in the comments


Emp, I want you to know that I found you through the first episode of Never Ever and I go out of my way to NEVER WATCH YOUR YTPs EVER!


7:15 is a great screenshot without context

Snap that’s going in my out of context collection


Now I know why you suddenly stopped making YTPs.
Now I know what you mean when you said "I didn't become popular because of YTP but in spite of YTP." (referring to 'YouTube has been on a Downward Spiral.' from 2017).
Now I know why you wanted people to unsubscribe.

I feel really bad now....

james overmetal same I wasn’t fully sure until now, this video explains a lot of the picture that we were missing.  it’s a long explanation but I’m still glad he made it for us

@Crucillus Thorn much like an ogre, emp is full of deep layers

This video really put so many little things you pick up from his other videos into perspective.<br>It's the second layer to everything that's been missing.

This video really put so many little things you pick up from his other videos into perspective.
It's the second layer to everything that's been missing.

james overmetal I remember he made a video called empty subscribers and i used to think that was why he wanted people to unsubscribe.


as a long time fan its neat to see why and how we got to where we are now


Favorite Frying Comment episode, I'm hype for next installment


This is the first time I see a youtuber who's more rational than his audience.

Sometimes life is ironic...


This makes me wonder how many other Youtube channels had a chance at success but gave it up for a "real job." What content is being made because of people not pursuing their dreams? I guess this isn't necessarily new since people have always been discouraged from creative outlets at some point in history. There are likely best selling novels or hit songs that were never written. I guess there isn't anything to be done about it but I think it's a neat concept to consider.


This reminds me of how progressive rock bands are treated once they gain success

The Styx parallel is actually a really interesting one for Emp. The band itself was so volatile at times, and the prog rock junkies hated them for daring to be accessible, but that accessibility was so fleeting for them, as well. Much like Sempsins did for Emp, Kilroy Was Here basically doomed Styx; it was too weird for the pop radio crowd, but too streamlined for the people that could have appreciated the concept. Everything Styx has done since Kilroy has been completely forgotten except for one or two odd singles from the 90s that picked up some airplay on adult alternative radio.

Now, the similarities seem to stop there, because Emp has, in many ways, become the more internet-focused successor to Jon Bois (so long as you don't try to make any political parallels between the two). In some ways, I think Emp has become one of the more important voices of this age of media, though it's less likely that history will remember him that way as things currently stand.

It's just interesting to note, because Styx is still reviled even today, despite their immense contributions to 70s and early 80s prog rock (Equinox is still one of my favorite albums of all time, and I'm not even 25). Meanwhile, Journey did almost the exact same thing that Styx did, but they never wrote what could be considered a "passion project" compared to their other body of work like Styx did, and Journey went on to become one of the most beloved bands of all time (deservedly so, might I add, though for different reasons than Don't Stop Believin').

@ᄋ비벵윤 what about pink floyd? they made some fuckin masterpieces <b>after</b> they got bigger.

@ᄋ비벵윤 what about pink floyd? they made some fuckin masterpieces *after* they got bigger.

@Antaredja Kartasasmita Hotline Miami fan?

I read Sterling Whitaker's biography of Styx earlier this year. A few of the interviewers made points about how the critics and "real" musicians hated them because unlike other bands of the 70s that were put on a pedestal by the "tastemakers" as "true art", Styx and other arena rockers built their fanbases with regular people (i.e. normies), which meant bypassing the gatekeepers and in turn earning their ire. In any case, no amount of hate could stop them from making a ton of money and becoming one of the biggest bands in America. I'm getting a similar vibe from this scenario.

Or actually any rock/metal/underground band. Remember when Metallica "sold-out" and their "fans" hated them for that? Pretty petty on the fans' part, if ya ask me. But yes, I understand your point.

Who's your favorite prog group, btw?

Louis Two Rush rings a slightly quieter bell

@ᄋ비벵윤 To be honest, I don't really care. If their old music is banger I'll listen to it, if their newer music is trash, I won't, that's it.<br>Music is something I hear, bands are people who make music, nothing more nothing less. I usually never stick to any one band or genre, unless their shit is so damn good I'll listen to it every time (Perturbator and Carpenter Brut comes to mind)

@ᄋ비벵윤 To be honest, I don't really care. If their old music is banger I'll listen to it, if their newer music is trash, I won't, that's it.
Music is something I hear, bands are people who make music, nothing more nothing less. I usually never stick to any one band or genre, unless their shit is so damn good I'll listen to it every time (Perturbator and Carpenter Brut comes to mind)

@Antaredja Kartasasmita to be fair, music changes when the group gets bigger. It usually gets progressively worse

basically any exclusive niches once they got popular because "normies" like it<br>that's the most hipster bullshit i've ever heard ngl

basically any exclusive niches once they got popular because "normies" like it
that's the most hipster bullshit i've ever heard ngl


Even though I completely respect your decision to do different videos now, I will always miss when you pooped


18:42 that sir, is u n c o o l. Embrace the YTP. we're always watching and waiting for more of them. If not, that's fine, but it'd be cool if you made more. But eh, emp will probably never read this.
23:30 oh, NVM then.


I think you’re pretty grounded & fair. Don’t let the comments get you too down


As someone who watched your YTPs back in later 2013- early 2016. I feel like your main problem was that as your fanbase grew more popular, you started to cookie cut memes and ytp refrences into your ytps to please the crowd rather than make original jokes with the content.

I didn’t really have a problem with your YTP style until Frying Nemo and onwards (until the fan backlash started). Watching that TYP made me feel like I was watching one of those Dank meme vine/instagram compilations that were extremely popular and always in the recommended section at the time but old, unoriginal, and bland.

That, combined with harrassment from people new to the scene who thought that your style/Trudermark’s style of YTP was the model example caused a bunch of creators to lose interest and quit and I eventually quit watching YTPs altogether as they became a relic.

I don’t think you were directly responsible for killing YTPs, I feel like meme culture going mainstream is the reason why things started going downhill. You just happened to be popular at the time so you were an easy scapegoat.


All these downward spirals are making my head go into a mental downward spiral

bro this is so funny I have never laughed at anything more in my whole life, JK
YOU POSTED CRINGE
SELF DEPRECATING JOKES ARENT FUNNY ANYMORE


emp i hope you maybe see this, I fucking adore the music choices you pick, out bloody rageous? tarkus? god what excellent fucking taste thank you for these amazingly long droning rants with all this phenomenal editing and love and passion and work. thank you


I'm a year behind.<br>But drama in a silly ytp community still baffles me.

I'm a year behind.
But drama in a silly ytp community still baffles me.


I appreciate that, in general, you make whatever the fuck you want. It's a relief from other content styles and honestly that was the original draw to poops.


If you ever make a video that (basically) says your downward spiral is done/gone. If you do, please, use scenes from Gurren Laggan when they are in that space sea and they are trying to destroy a vacuum spiral. Just a suggestion.


You may not read this comment, but i've always enjoyed your content and I loved watching your videos and I loved how much you grew, from my first video from you, which was the uncredribles.

Love you emplemon.


Nice video and hope you continue making good quality content


what I learned from this video is apparently ytp was some type of internet punk movement - can't get too popular, ruins the brand


The Syndrome Downward Spiral clip, was spot on and I related to it alot. Good video.