5 minutes in, and this reminds me SO MUCH of the crazy HATE the "ytp community" gave WalrusGuy back in his days in the spotlight. Beyond just constant hate and comments, he was subject to mass flag attacks and even one of his haters hacked WalrusGuy's account and deleted all his original uploads.

This kind of shit happens all the time. Seen it again and again when it comes to general opinion on 4chan. It's something I've contiously challenged myself to explain. Is it people just trying to outsmart eachother with unbounding disdain and cynicism? Is it astrotirfing by a select few sociopaths trying to prove they can sway minds with endless reposts and alt accounts? Maybe a little of both. Either way I've always believed these perceived hate trends to be just a loud minority, and that the visible general opinion doesn't properly represent the amount of people who are satisfied and have no reason to post. I hate it. I really hate when the ill-perceived "general opinion" leads to rule changes on boards, balance changes to games, or content changes in creators.


I guess I'm not the only person who experiences this kind of thing. Amazing how jealous people can be without knowing that they're jealous.


They're just upset that you've branched into talking about things that matter to you, and are jealous that your willingness to risk alienating your fans has worked out, while they've stagnated because they were afraid of upsetting their fans.

In short, crabs in a bucket


You are simply amazing . I found your video cause of muggy about leafy , and I just can’t wait every time you upload I’m stoked . Love your documentaries. That’s quality .


It ain’t easy to put your whole ass soul out there, and it is RISKY. But it paid off, great job.


I’ve been watching your channel for a year or something and I really like your videos.


Sometimes you need that downward spiral to make rollercoaster rides more fun you know


Honestly I never understood the hate lol
I subscribed because you made funny videos that I always came back to.
And once you started making ytp videos with your actual voice and still entertaining editing, I just thought “this channel got better”


“I’ll give them Downward Spiral...I’ll give them the most spectacular Downward Spiral anyone has ever seen !”
“And when I’m old and I had my fun ?  I’ll sell my Spiral, so that everyone can be Downward, everyone can complain !”
—EmpLemon, 6/4 2019


That's cool, i remember that end clip. Thanks for your video Emp. You are the only YT i wanted to give money but because man i don't want you to stop uploading but idk man. Sounds like you don't need the money. Well whatever the case I appreciate the vids you have up anyways


This video just made me want to rewatch your poops for the 50th time


I had absolutely no idea youtube poops were anything other than nonsensical memes. I didn't know they were supposed to be anti-establishment (???) or had a dedicated community that regularly discussed them. What the hell are you supposed to discuss?


Been here since your name was EmperorLemon. I was kinda sad you stopped uploading ytps to this channel, but i love the stuff you're making now keep up the good work!

Edit: Love the Warioware song in the end. Just gotta put that out there.


You just have 5 guys that irrationally hate you for a dumbass reason while you’ve been above them for a decade. I call that a win my guy


Came for the YTP long ago, stayed past that for everything else.


This video is surrounded by a mythical energy, truely EmPlEmOn is one we must fear


You kinda do ytp every video. But small parts of it in long video is amazing because no one else is doing it


I never really got into ytps and yet always seem to wind up at this channel


Im glad you quit ytp, i like what you make now, its very interesting and actually informative


When you don't have fun doing it anymore, that's the right time to quit.


I was a fan of you during the ytp era and I liked your transition. It kinda feels like you are a ytp commentator of sorts. <b>edit I’ve been a fan around 2014ish so just know that I haven’t stopped liking ytps for like 10 years now considering I’ve liked them since 2009</b>

I was a fan of you during the ytp era and I liked your transition. It kinda feels like you are a ytp commentator of sorts. *edit I’ve been a fan around 2014ish so just know that I haven’t stopped liking ytps for like 10 years now considering I’ve liked them since 2009*


When you think the video is over and it's not over so you're happy


bro why emplemon seem like the kanye of the ytp community.

i hate that painting and everything behind it

That's actually a bad comparison. Try using 'pewdiepie' as an example


This happens a lot in creator based communities. I've literally seen dudes unfollow other creators simply because. Dude A stopped uploading. Dude B uploaded something good and it collectively got more hits than all of the content Dude A created. Your favorite content creators can be disgustingly horrible people behind closed doors. Now Dude A doesn't make shit and harasses girls on twitter. Its really painful experience, knowing that trying to impress senpai only made him hate you and turned him into a horrible person.


So no more YTP's. Darn. I loved those, and it's a shame. But if you're entirely done with it, I can live with that. Good luck on your new endeavors.


Wow, I didn't expect to hear Soft Machine in this video. You have excellent taste in music, sir!


I may love the poops you took, but I'm even happier that you've sorta just started to do 'you'. Edit: I've never had a problem with you for anything. Some people are just always going to be jerks, I guess. Hope you are doing Aight fr. Edit: An I'm not tryna sound sympathetic. I don't understand the hate either. I don't say much either, and I'm not your biggest fan. I just consider your videos to be good content. Edit: I don't think this video was pointless, could be a good series; talking about comments. Love the outro!

I'll never unsub, just in case you decide to upload something.


Well, I doubt you’ll see me, but yeah, most of your speculation is about right. Unless some wild shit happens, people that hate you will eventually just fuck off and leave you be. It’s like when people argue about gun control, they just piss each other off until they want to go on about their day more than talking to someone about shit they don’t want to talk about.

As for blaming yourself and trying to fix the issue by going out to meet these people is admirable. Just don’t beat yourself up for years blaming yourself for shit that isn’t entirely your fault like i did when I got bullied in school.

You’re pretty sharp from what I’ve seen thus far, so I’ve got faith that you’ll make a better choice more often than not. Heck, you want to be an engineer as well... it sucks so far, I’m a junior in chemical engineering. You want some advice?
>Split the bill with some friends for chegg (you’ll need it as I’ve gone without it before and some of the shit in fluid transport alone is a mess of shit I can’t predict without at least a friend’s input).
>group of friends in major with you. These people will be around and you can do practice problems with
>actually try to find books online
>don’t skip out on practice problems. You have to grind those out until you get it
>note on weed out courses. They are there, calc 2 isn’t hard, but they give hard tests, low partial credit, and have a grad student teach instead of a prof...it’s one thing to give low partial credit it is another thing when the professor gives 3/15 points for a correct answer to a basic physics question

Community college is actually not bad for engineering. You save money and can understand material in advance. If you find it ain’t for you once you’re in hard shit, then you can do something else without a huge loss on major debts.

TLDR, you’re on the right track, get chegg for college and cram practice problems (highly recommend community college)
T.chemical engineering student

Well, I doubt you’ll see me, but yeah, most of your speculation is about right. Unless some wild shit happens, people that hate you will eventually just fuck off and leave you be. It’s like when people argue about gun control, they just piss each other off until they want to go on about their day more than talking to someone about shit they don’t want to talk about.

As for blaming yourself and trying to fix the issue by going out to meet these people is admirable. Just don’t beat yourself up for years blaming yourself for shit that isn’t entirely your fault like i did when I got bullied in school.

You’re pretty sharp from what I’ve seen thus far, so I’ve got faith that you’ll make a better choice more often than not. Heck, you want to be an engineer as well... it sucks so far, I’m a junior in chemical engineering. You want some advice?
>Split the bill with some friends for chegg (you’ll need it as I’ve gone without it before and some of the shit in fluid transport alone is a mess of shit I can’t predict without at least a friend’s input).
>group of friends in major with you. These people will be around and you can do practice problems with
>actually try to find books online
>don’t skip out on practice problems. You have to grind those out until you get it
>note on weed out courses. They are there, calc 2 isn’t hard, but they give hard tests, low partial credit, and have a grad student teach instead of a prof...it’s one thing to give low partial credit *it is another thing when the professor gives 3/15 points for a correct answer to a basic physics question*

Community college is actually not bad for engineering. You save money and can understand material in advance. If you find it ain’t for you once you’re in hard shit, then you can do something else without a huge loss on major debts.

TLDR, you’re on the right track, get chegg for college and cram practice problems (highly recommend community college)
T.chemical engineering student


I always liked your YTPs, IDK why others didn't


You and sseth are the teo best channels on yt. Love you emp.


When i clicked on the video didn't expected all this story, but i am not complaining. Shame that you got the fun of making YTPs sullied, i miss that genre and now is pretty much dead. Regardless of that i hope you stick around.


Not here to complain, I'm just helping you outHow often do you receive complaints from users? Because, I've looked at the comments and the like/dislike ratio, and it turns out that you're not receiving as much hate as I thought you would. Here is my advice, don't focus on the negative comments. Instead, focus on the majority of your comments. Because the negatives are only a small minority of the comments section, the positives are the majority of it. Try focusing on the majority and hopefully, that will calm you down. When YouTubers start to get popular, they will always have haters.


i wish there was a hug button. you inspire me so much.


When you have salt, you either dry up or start a salt mine.


You aren't going to delete your YTPs, are you? I sure hope not! I like them!

(Please don't delete them.)


Hey. I respect you man. And I usually don’t comment on videos :)


Ok

Now, I first saw YTP in around 2014, when I was still a kid. I might’ve saw your vids, but I don’t know cuz I laughed at anything in those YTP’s. Me and my friend would literally quote random YTP’s in front of my friend’s parent (my friend did this a lot). We had no idea how seriously people took what we saw as a bunch of funny edits.

Fast forward about three years. I had moved on from YTP and it was right I the middle of my middle school years. I just started lurking reddit a couple months earlier. While browsing shitty meme subreddits, I see talk about a guy named EmpLemon who exposed Behind the Meme (who I hated). Back in MS, I cared way too much about internet drama. I mean, it’s middle school after all. I watch the video and I was amazed at how much producatiin and thought went into the vid. From that point, I subbed.

Every major project just seems to get better and better. Every couple months I click onto your leafy vid and watch the whole thing just because it’s so good.

Why the fuck am I writing this?

All I can say is that you are probably my favorite YouTuber on the site. Your documentaries look like an edgier version of a TV program. made by ONE GUY! My day is made when I see another 30 minute video with a red avatar in my feed. I hope you find your passion and take as much time as you need to make your vids.

Also, I kinda enjoyed the monthly meme reviews


6:16  1000% is only 10 times, you meant to say 100000%


Shocking that a drama channel crippled a YouTube genre culture. Nothing has changed.


Describing a YTP as 'commerical' has to got to be the most pretentious thing I've ever had the disgrace of hearing.


I remember when EmpLemon used to make poops. Growing up sucks.


I was a huge fan of Durhamrockerz, Waxinator, and Orpheusftw. I didn't even know you did youtube poop. Go fish.


Wow back then when I was watching you videos,  I was totally unaware of this drama.


Don’t listen to the other people opinions, if you believe that your videos are good then they are. Don’t let the negativity from other people bring down your pride. (Tbh I never been through the things you’re going through but just watching the video made me feel bad about your struggles)


keep being based and complaining, mein emperor. it sustains me


IMPORTANT: Is it emperor lemon or electromagnetic pulse lemon?


I’ve never heard of Stuart r kelly before this lol

That's basically how almost all YTPers go


You should make a video on a subject I've never been bothered to do: that YouTube is still full of quality, its just harder to find. Just look at Jack Stauber and U M A M I, two of the most talented youtubers possibly ever.


Desperately need LinkOnDrugs to come back.


He attack
He protect
But most importantly
He chasing that respect


This is a long one but I have criticism and I hope you listen:

The reason why you get so much shit, is because you constantly address things and criticism, in a very whiny, petty, and aggressive way. Which is something I don't click with despite my enjoyment of your work, and that's something people get when they watch you. If you address things properly, like in this video, most people would understand. It's a classic example of, being really angry and whiny on a video makes people like you less. You attacked your audience, Michael Richards style (without the n words lol), and that was a mistake. You created enemies within your people and anyone on the outside. It's easy to get worked up when you can't stand shitty comments, but you can always learn something from reading comments, as shitty most of them can be. The complaining meme started because you don't know how to address things properly. And I guess that axed your possible friendships with other ytp'ers. It's not a mystery what happened. It's simple. You were immature. But now you've reflected and you can think about that more. You don't need to do ytp. Newcomers like Nation of Oranges will always come around. Ytp is an art movement, and anybody can revive an art movement and bring others in. Ytp will always be a thing. You don't need it if you don't want it. I hope you can take this time of reflecting, and grow from it. Hold your head up high and be a bigger man. I'm sure the people who criticized you can have a nice conversation with you, just like the angry commenter. You're Emp Lemon. You have a real identity outside of your old ytp years. Be proud of that and try to tackle criticism and comments much more smoothly, like this video


Its sad to hear what has happened to the poop community but really its a tale that's old as time. New emergent highly creative art form comes out, tight nite community forms, some one gets big, drama and critique, new creativity outlet gets burnt out and people move on or worse ride on until nothing but scraps exist. Whats so tragic as not even such of a shit post genre like YTP is immune, its hard to believe such a community can garner elitism but it just as Jeff Goldblum says "Life always find a way.".


Simple as this, your idols became your rivals.


"there will Never Ever be another YouTube Poop again from EmperorLemon" (Season 1 Episode 4)


i made it until 5:41 my last braincell gave in after that


The YTP-Community is one of the most toxic communities I ever came across on the internet. Even though I never really got into the english YTP-Stuff (besides some classics) I've made my experiences with the German "YouTube Kacke"-Community back from 2009-2011 making a little bit over a thousand subscribers which was a big deal back in the days (at least to me) and well... I've probably been way too young to know what's actual comedy because all I really did was taking german-dubbed Caillou-Episodes and mixing them up to make them say basic insults or other explicit stuff, you know, the stuff 13 year olds do when they first get their hands on an editing-software which capable of doing more than Windows Moviemaker.

...the problem was that I was getting well aware of how unfunny my shit was so I tried to reach out to the german version of YouChew to get some help on how to become better and all I got was a sarcastic shitfest of YouTube Kacke-Elitists roasting me for being who I was which made me quickly abandon both my Forum- and YouTube Accounts, diving so deep into the Downward-Spiral in early 2012 that I created new accounts in order to hide who I was and make people forget about me, which worked out more or less good.
I can absolutely understand why these people hated my Stuff, I mean I was a kid and my humor was very surface-level + my core audience was probably even younger than me, but then again I still don't understand why none of them tryed to help me out when I was asking for it - Maybe they knew I was just a kid and wanted me to fuck off til I become old enough to do YTK? ...maybe the elitism in their community was all they had in their lifes and they wanted to protect that with any necessary force? ...or maybe they really just wanted to keep things underground to protect their counter-culture... I really can't tell but I'm glad these days are over because I got tired of trying to gain respect from these people over and over again, with no actual chance of getting it.

...even saw similar things happening to actual funny YouTube Kacke Creators btw: "HarterStuhligan" abandoned his channel after he got a shoutout from the former biggest german Youtuber "coldmirror" because he couldn't deal with the popularity he got from it, "MachtetJetzt" completely vanished after the enormous success of his "Andreas Kieling"-Series (Not kidding, you still hear people quoting lines from these poops in public even today, it's huge) and I don't even know what happened to "TheMackey5".

...but then again it's kinda calming to see this is a global phenomenon because it shows me how irrelevant my case really is.


Never Ever is why I subscribed. You got me into Nascar, for a brief time.


damn i just finished watching this whole video..


The only thing I hate you for is reminding me of when Steve left and we were saddled with Joe.


When will commenters realise creators are going to evolve regardless??


If only my shitposts took off for no particular reason.

Truth is I have always been at the bottom of the downward spiral.

Truth is, the spiral was downward from the start.


You should seriously get into making documentaries.


Emp you should start a discord that shit would get pack full of memes and neat topics if you do have one reply to me with it plz


Im super fucking high and deadass watched this whole thing in amazement and now that its done I understand legit nothing bruh


Oh so thats where the downward spiral came from.


I use to make tf2 mods and all people ever did was complain. I try to change something they get mad 😡. Then they start reporting my mods and they get deleted. It was like I was hated through out gamebanana. Making mods is not easy for team fortress after coming up with something stupid they liked it. I was confused and shocked

Don't give up, man! Keep on making the stuff you like and if everyone else dislikes it, who really gives a shit? I'd be proud of even being able to mod the game, that's an accomplishment in itself!


Down down down to the bottom of the sea.

Easy.  There are people who take YouTube poops seriously.  When a random guy comes in and does their job seemingly better than them, in a way they disagree with, they're going to rage internally.

Internal rage becomes external when asked about whether you like them or not.  It's why I don't like Mozart.

Also, I find it incredibly, ironic that they're essentially yelling at a little kid who kept practicing and practicing independently of everyone else, and then we're here.

Also, your stuff is good.  Incredibly good.

TL;DR Beethoven makes the Grosse Fugue, and everyone hates it.

Last thing.  I'll look.  I know you need content for your channel.


Well, I just visited those Videos and damn, they are really good.


EMP i still think your good if that helps


How about a video on YouTube turning into cable TV with multiple ads and sometimes 2 ads in a row before the video plays


Hey Emp, if you're reading this...

STOP MAKING VIDEOS REFLECTING ON COMPLAINING ABOUT COMPLAINTS WITHIN A NICHE YOUTUBE CIRCLE THAT EVERYBODY HATES!

lol jk, you keep doing you


For your next episode of Never Ever “There will never be another era like the 2000’s”


Just so u know 2017 memes ascended is my favorite video on the platform


I didn't know that ytp purists even existed...


The beginning sounded like Primus, was it Primus? I hope it was Primus


I see dashlane everywhere on youtube as a commercial nowadays...


Sometimes you mention how important YTP is like in 12:29 , but you also downplay the importance of it; chalking it up as just a hobby or stupid edits of videos.
Kinda weird


The real reason you are hated is because <b>*you didn't make frying dory*</b>

The real reason you are hated is because **you didn't make frying dory**


I’m gonna go crazy if I can’t find which video plays during the Patreon section. The “you questioned why the Simpsons were green” video


Maaan <b>FACK</b> these hatin' ass frickin' fricks. Keep doin what you doin Emp, you the OG. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

Maaan *FACK* these hatin' ass frickin' fricks. Keep doin what you doin Emp, you the OG. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽


✝RIP✝ ディープ引用


So basically.... DJ Khaled: Suffering from Success


"I really dislike this kind of pooping" not sure how can anyone say that while trying to be taken seriously.


@EmpLemon have you thought of making a Discord server?


Dashlane and NordVPN are really cool for sponsoring people with edgy content

Of course they do , their shit is everything but secure.

Dashlane : you're litterally putting your goddamn password into their server , not knowing what kind of encryption they use , or anything about how it's stored and if someone can get access to it (spoiler : they can , lastpass for example got hacked multiple times iirc)

And NordVPN : litterally only good for piracy in the us at best. They most likely log everything you do. And even if they don't , their server providers most likely dose as if your server isnt in switzerland or something , they are obligated by the law to log everything , the time the information stays on the server changes between countries.
Don't trust the cloud , don't trust someone else's server in general for your private info.

Of course they do , their shit is everything but secure.

Dashlane : you're litterally putting your goddamn password into their server , not knowing what kind of encryption they use , or anything about how it's stored and if someone can get access to it (spoiler : they can , lastpass for example got hacked multiple times iirc)

And NordVPN : litterally only good for piracy in the us at best. They most likely log everything you do. And even if they don't , their server providers most likely dose as if your server isnt in switzerland or something , they are *obligated* by the law to log everything , the time the information stays on the server changes between countries.
Don't trust the cloud , don't trust someone else's server in general for your private info.


Keep making videos man. You've got a great editing style, poops or not.


I remember discovering you from ytp, like the interesting way this channel had changed. Cool commentary on the web-scape.


I hate myself more than any of my haters hate me.<br>And how was your day?

I hate myself more than any of my haters hate me.
And how was your day?


I was one of the subs from the UNCREDiBLES boom and I have to say I've watched each video you've put out since, and <br>```xml<br><generic supportive = message><br>```

I was one of the subs from the UNCREDiBLES boom and I have to say I've watched each video you've put out since, and
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I can see you are trying to block my shtyle! Nobody can just deflect my emerald splash!


>Hears intro song
"Frying you comments as usual"
"I gotta have a good meal"

@Zeno Rockbell It's time to kick BehindTheMeme off the table.

Zeno Rockbell "It's time to kick BehindTheMeme off of YouTube"

"Emp-Lemon, you petty complainer, you are so entitled and whiny, why are you so whiny?!"


Ive watched you for years mate, i love all your content ❤


Huh, so thats why the YTP's suddenly stopped. Well that's ok. I enjoy your new stuff anyway!


your editing style somewhat reminds me of the youtuber jon bois, though he makes sports videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/jonbois


Pyrocinical is a former YTP creator who is often hated for not making <b>petscop 2.</b>

Pyrocinical is a former YTP creator who is often hated for not making *petscop 2.*


Seeing a lot of tf2 in your videos, tf2 related video when?


i checked the comments to see if those guys would comment again lol


It’s honestly funny there are still people that gather just to hate on you it’s the most childish thing I think of


I remember watching one of your YTPs a looong time ago, it was an Incredibles one. It stuck with me. Very well done.

Must've been the Uncredibles lol


Finally the origin story of the downward spiral


Man I know that feel. But emp, if you ever read this, know that I've watched your content and loved since I was a kid. I loved YTP because it was funny and I knew a lot of people loved making it. And I still love it to this day, but I'd rather not watch a YTP from you again than have you be still making them and still be miserable. I still love your content and I will continue to watch your content no matter what you decide to upload. Because I know it's genuine. And in the grand scheme of things, it's just as important to entertain the creator, as it is the audience.


I paused Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse to watch this.

@Eos Zelich best marvel based movie ever. Best animated film this year. Possibly the best animated superhero movie ever.


Wtf I thought this was another million plus channel


I'm on that EMPLEMON content like white on rice baby


and that,my friends,is how you turn a <b>C O M P L A I N</b> into a meme everyone knows you for

and that,my friends,is how you turn a *C O M P L A I N* into a meme everyone knows you for


This is very reminiscent of Jon bois videos


10:27 Age:110
I am not an expert, but I think you sound a little bit younger...

@George Under 13 you aren't supposed to use the site at all, under 18 you need parental consent to sign up. Either way, as a kid it's just easy to go to the bottom of the list and not worry about whether you're supposed to be 13, 16, or 18, and it allowed for the hilarity of your profile saying you're ~100 if it showed that info

the good old days of just selecting the earliest year on the drop down menu because you weren't 18 yet

He ages downwards, just like the spiral.

Back in those days, I was a scruffy, 41 year old man getting down with high-octane plush videos.


Gonna get buried, so you're probably not gonna see this. You made a good call to get off the YTP bandwagon. Even though I'm a fan of those sorts of videos, the times have changed, and that sort of content gets buried and obscured. All it will ever be is a memory of a moment that never will be anymore.

 I've only stuck around because even though I disagree with what you have to say about 70% of the time, your perspective is interesting to say the least. If I were you though, I'd be cautious about using this platform as a mainstay career path. Since everything is constantly changing all the time, be it people or certain algorithms, there might come a point in time where making videos either isn't a promising prospect anymore or you lose your purpose to create. I don't say this to discourage you from creating. Keep on striking while the iron is hot (if that's how the expression goes) and bail when the going gets tough.

Lastly, and most importantly; remember that your time is limited. If this is the path you take, be ready to accept the consequences. That is all, thank you for the videos.

Ytps will be picked up by anybody. In the technical sense, it's a growing art movement. So it doesn't matter if Emp stops. Someone will pick it up, and then another person will pick it up. It's unfair to say that there's a downward spiral (👌) to the community. Like the stock market, shit always fluctuates

There will never ever be another golden era of Youtube Poops

Dandy Feller  Emp is not a rapper, hes an adapter. He can adjust


I have to deal with the comments on a daily basis and all my comments are bad


Moral of the story, there is no old Kanye


id reply to emp but dont wanna ruin 69 replies


So whats the true reason why YTP is Hating him? Since the real answer is blurred out.


Oh no, the Uncredibles brought normies into ytp/meme culture. guess that's why you're bad, since you're one of the guys who got recognized... better unsubscribe.


I never understood the hate back then anyways


Why am I just being notified of this video now?


Emp Rusty and mumpkey all got popular off videos they don't  want to make anymore emp with the ytp's <br>Mumpkey with the anime reviews and Rusty with the knife game song.

Emp Rusty and mumpkey all got popular off videos they don't  want to make anymore emp with the ytp's
Mumpkey with the anime reviews and Rusty with the knife game song.


Hello I am the living embodiment of alllll.   Memes


I like that you leaved YTP community , if you have a problem . You can always leave.<br>And I know that other guys in the comments are saying this. But, i'm happy that we are stuck with you.

I like that you leaved YTP community , if you have a problem . You can always leave.
And I know that other guys in the comments are saying this. But, i'm happy that we are stuck with you.


You know,
For a while I felt like I lived in some dystopian nightmare
Where, sort of, everything, and everyone, I cared about
Was reappropriated by some kind of wimp Stalinist, super-bougie, fake populist, two dates to the prom, snake oil salesman, prosumer, alternate reality. And it was using my life, and my people, and my love to convince the world about how real it was. Give it comfort that it’s having an authentic experience.

But it’s not “for real. It knows it’s not for real. That’s why it has time to tinker with it.

Like gremlins, they wish it actually was what they believe is some desirable or attainable representation of reality, so they just assemble it to appear to be. Like perverted workshop elves.

I probably do the same thing, but I’m not jazzed about it.

But, what I’m saying is, it’s not about material-material stuff, proving that car is real, or my hand is real. It’s taking abstract things, emotions, experiences, and throwing down some smoke bombs and a strobe light, and telling me they’re real or made, and owned by somebody, IE this guy, and Dr. Lifestyle-Coach-Party-Dad’s got my two tickets to paradise.

You know, you got pick from some “stupid list/endless feeling choice buffet” of what people can relate to, but the options have become more real than whatever’s going on with the person choosing them.

And I’m off menu. I can’t do anything about it. Do you know what I mean?

These choices are meaningless to me. It’s like, we have all the most yellow breads and cheeses for your soul’s vegetarian diet.

And, yeah, I know, it’s not a new idea or anything: commercials, advertisement. Blah blah. Kill your TV. Facebook. Obama.

But, do we really need to do this to EACH other now? Like existential entrepreneurial sociopaths? Have we ran out of so many worlds to conquer that now we just take turns brain-colonizing each other?

I mean, is there any other way, because I feel really gross about it?

You know, just anyway besides re-ordering a bunch of other people’s memories and then sending them back some VIP invitation to their own life?

Or just selling some new extra steps for validation by generating buyer’s remorse and then absolving it for dollars, and thenbeing a baby about it while getting paid.

Sounds kind of demoralizing, right. Might make it easy to buddy with the darkness if I was that demoralized. Might make it rational.

Pragmatic.
Responsible.

Gremlins, they hate when your kisses blow one at a time. You know, because they’ve “accepted” that you got to be like that. Think like that. Like it’s some kind of mature adult compromise, but I don’t know, that kind of vaudeville parlor trick is like they read the Wikipedia for The Prince and just grew their bangs out. Made the world their dad, and make a diamond waiting on their allowance. All pouty, punching the clock at the Realness Factory.

How come they don’t have that level of cynicism or blow my brains out at the dinner table-contrarian table talk for their own Keebler life-vomit.

Because they hate when kisses blow one at a time because it doesn’t say anything about a systemized world. It just says something about their life. About your life.

Who gets to decide the way the world works? Some idea? Or one at a time? Or some idea made by a few jerk-off’s one at a time?

These guys, they want to get paid to slip in their idea every time you could do your one at a time.

Imply you’re one at a time is meaningless because it’s one at a time, and then ask for a dollar, so you can feel good about the choice they took away from you because that’s just the way the world works because they’re your witness.

Yeah, you’re going to need a sweet release if you really believe that you’re just supposed to eat it. For breakfast. Everyday. That you can only choose between total anonymity and total witness.

Or, I don’t know, you could just love somebody. Or know somebody. Directly.

And push out all the little jaded teenage-grown up gremlins trying to cram their paycheck into all the social space that’s yet to be monetized into a theme park.

You know, and they can give me People Points every time they get another bit of my space, so I can get my mohawk pierced or whatever. Botox my dog.

But I’m not into the trade-off, it’s not a reward for me, and I worry I have to do it to be able to work.

Not in a “I don’t want to be an adult, I wish I could just escape it all and be a baby again” kind of way, but in a “am I going to have to act like this to another person to be able to survive” kind of way.

Because if I do, I’m just doing time on another planet. A teenage planet.

And that planet’s got to decide to grow up again, or it’s just going to end up hiring some really crazy Skynet meets Mussolini father figure with no body hair.

Like:

“I can wear whatever I want but I got tazed and lobotomized for walking too fast at the people store. And now I have to fire the t shirt cannon at the book burning inside my 1000 year mind-prison or the banks going to take my baby’s avatar.”

And yeah, I would be a gloomy, everything’s kind of B.S. , so whatever I’m just making it, elitist underdog, grown-up teenager too if I believed any of that stuff. But I don’t.

I don’t believe any of that stuff. I’m not convicted about it you know.

I don’t see why that’s any more rational than saying I want to be a human.

A variable. A human variable. On a teenage planet.

Really, I just don’t want to be some nostalgia raffling stooge for the googlable authoritarian capitalist nightmare future that might not happen, but, you know, maybe I am

Maybe we all are.

I don’t know, am I trying to sell you something right now?

I don’t even know anymore, but I’m going to keep trying to figure it out.


"Hate is temporary, but YouTube comments are forever." -EmperorLemon (Godspeed, you magnificent bastard)

You should have said: Godspeed You! Lemon Emperor


damn emp lemon  really be the metallica of ytp during the black album

@Juan Stamos it also had a much more mainstream sound to it, very different from their previous albums which basically everyone considered to be masterpieces but took black album was much more mainstream friendly and everyone said they sold out

@Juan Stamos nah us real geniune metalheads have a long history of being gatekeepers. Some loved black album but you CANNOT call yourself a metallica fan after only listening to black album and nothing else

He didn't sell out on purpose though, I think that was one of the main points in the video

black album was good. did the metal fans not like it at the time?


Really great self-analysis video, I got the vibe you were more critiquing your past self rather than everyone else. Fantastic video overall. Loving the time and dedication you put into these videos, show how much you care.


Honestly Emp, I can’t thank you enough for existing. Hours and Hours of hilarious and informative content, you’re one of the few youtubers that I still watch and respect.

Just wanted to say thanks for everything!


15:12 I just love how shockingly real it all felt when a scene like that from the Incredibles. Seriously, that was deep.


With all the respect I believe you deserve for your content of pure genius, I hope you can now be proud of being a youtuber again. May you be happy and proud for your achievements.


Emplemon, you’ve helped me learn a lot more about YTPs. I think you’ve done good for the YTP community.


With all due respect, I give my respect to you. Thank you for your channel and all that you have done. Only good Hope's for the future of you and the channel.


You know what? I’m gonna say it.

EmpLemon is my favorite content creator cause he’s a genuine person who understands what the fuck is up. The Dale Earnhardt video was beautiful, and thank you for being so dope.


Hey emp, i've been a huge fan since i was 10, now i'm 16 going on 17 and i just wanna say i've always loved your videos, the ytps and the rants, and i can really feel your struggle. i have to deal with toxic people like that irl and all i can say is stay strong and know that even if everything does come crashing down you'll always at least have one fan who loves your content.


I've always loved each and every one of your videos, keep doing what you love to do =3


I really feel sorry you man. But guess what I’ve always respected you, whether as a YTPer or a commentator. Your editing and humor was still there, just in different formats. Just keep doing what you want to do.


One of the best videos I've watched in years. Thank you so much for this, keep doing what makes you happy.


I think you editing your videos, with ytp aspects and reactions is just as funny, and adds an actual discussion to the mix.


This video brought a tear to my eye in how well it was done and how personal it felt.
The UNcredibles video was my entry to the YTP content, and by far my favorite one out of many. Eventually I grew out of it, watched more stuff, and time later I come back and find your Youtube Geographic videos, amazing content that shows how much you've matured in a lot of senses. You're one of my favorite youtubers ever, more so now.

Strong respect for you man. Keep making great content, and good luck with graduation!


I've watched you since your early ytps, and I'll wait still for new ones, even if you dont make em ever again.


You still make me laugh, with or without YTP.<br>Glad I stuck around after all this time.

You still make me laugh, with or without YTP.
Glad I stuck around after all this time.


I've been watching your content for years. People take this sort of thing too seriously. Have always loved your YTP's, while watching and enjoying many others. This is such a shame.


"Have I ever tell you the tragedy of EmpLemon the YTPooper?"

No, really. Your narration feels like a play, a story that needs to be told. A story of the unachievable, of the struggles of social acceptance and our own shortcomings as humans.

Or maybe I'm just being too deep about a video on the internet.


Your channel is good enough for a person like me, who doesn't at all care about YouTube poops, but can still take something away from this video. You have some of the most interesting, thought-provoking content on the site, and in my opinion, miles better than some niche memes about Pixar or Spongebob.


I’ve been subbed to you since your oldest YTPs, your ridiculous and bombastic style perseveres even in videos unrelated to YTP, and seeing you get bashed by the YTP community was something I never fully understood, I just assumed it was due to your abrasive personality and unapologetic demeanor, so this video was definitely an eye opener.

I hope you continue to evolve your own style and continue enjoying making things you love.


I gotta say, this video made me a fan of yours again. I unsubbed a couple years ago after having enough of your melodramaticness (Is that a word?), but I realize that you were stuck in the moment and stressed, and we were all childish and naive. I wouldn't have even thought about it if I hadn't been recommended this video.


Bruh
I've been watching this channel since I was... fuck I dont even remember how old I was but I was in middle school.
I've seen you change through the years and I've seen how much you've grown and matured and all that yadda yadda. But whatever the phase you were going through you always managed to put a smile on my face and make my day at least a bit better.
Watching this video is strange because now Im about to head to college and here I am still watchung you. I dunno how to put the feeling into words but it just makes me feel kinda old. Nonetheless, this comment probably makes no sense reading it over now but Emp lemme tell you something: I've always supported whatever you've done and I'll continue to support you.
This comment is mostly just me writing whatever comes to my head but hey, its from the heart.
Keep doing what you're doing. Love ya man, no homo

And remember
It's Never Ogre.


I think you evolved YTP in a great direction with your detractors being stuck in their old ways always chasing a past that’ll never repeat itself. Your clever marriage of internet and social commentary with YTP meme saturated style editing and comedy is the logical progression of YTP. Embracing the greater internet culture by addressing topics pertaining to our generation as a whole is important , and you never sacrificed your quality editing and ideas for it.


You're a really interesting editor. I'd love to have you edit a movie


I personally enjoy your rants and new series'. It gives good insight on interesting topics. And your YTPs are pretty good too. Very Creative compared to some edits i've seen.<br>I still remember your Empty Subscribers vid and have taken it to heart with this channel. Im subscribed to EmpLemon cause i enjoy its content, reguardless of what it is. Keep doing you my man, and everything should be just fine!

I personally enjoy your rants and new series'. It gives good insight on interesting topics. And your YTPs are pretty good too. Very Creative compared to some edits i've seen.
I still remember your Empty Subscribers vid and have taken it to heart with this channel. Im subscribed to EmpLemon cause i enjoy its content, reguardless of what it is. Keep doing you my man, and everything should be just fine!


This video leaves me with a spiral of emotions. I remember being between 9-11 when I stumbled upon you through linkondrugs. It was just after youtube stopped the friend system I believe. I don't have some profound statement on the life of this channel, the only thing that comes to mind is that I feel personally that a lot of people tend to project issues and distastes in other aspects of life onto the things that used to bring them joy. Maybe when you changed your style of pooping to grow yourself for yourself, people looked at that change as affirmation that their days in the sun are gone. I personally enjoy whatever you put out BECAUSE I found you in a good point in my life, and your content doesn't need to bring the same feelings as it did when I first found you, it just needs to ENTERTAIN me, which it does. There are MANY EXAMPLES of you tubers who change for better or worse (PewDiePie, Markiplier, Jacksepticeye are easy picks) but there are also you tubers who have flat out disappeared (Zeurel, DasBoSchitt, Kitty0706 rip, FrankieOnPcIn1080p, etc etc) and frankly, I am glad you're around still, making videos born out of spite, but bringing entertainment to those who actually care to be subscribed for YOUR content and not THEIR expectations. Keep riding that spiral baby


Honestly im a little new to all of this and i feel bad for you but on a side note you were always my favorite pooper and you made me laugh so much so thank you for making these awesome vids and good luck with life may it be filled with happiness


To be quite honest, I never quite knew what a YouTube "Poop" exactly was and never really cared to find out, either. And now, I'm glad I didn't. I'm glad I only found you this year with some of your meme and Trump videos. Because frankly, with everything you've said, namely about the YTP community but also the guiding cultural ethos behind YTPs, I find that I don't care much for it. I probably would never have given this channel a second thought had I found it back then. But the complete opposite is true now. I really like your current content and find it far more intriguing.

Edit: This probably sounds a bit harsh, considering how important YTP was for you, but I mean it as a complement.


I think the reason i'll stay to the bitter end is because you practically like everything I do but also thanks for all the memories I've watched one of your ytps at a wedding once and you know what? It got me laid that night. I'm forever in your debt lem


Honestly, I like your channel now better than I liked the poops, I found it in  early 2018, and this is the content I subscribed for, thank you EmpLemon very cool!


This is basically a "There will never ever be a Youtube Pooper like EmperorLemon." but based around one comment instead of their whole life story. I dig this.


I’m not usually one to comment, in fact I never put my two cents in a video, but I just wanted to say thanks for sticking through so much hate to develop your character and entertainment into something more provocative and thoughtful. I’ve had experiences like that before where people don’t enjoy popular things, but I suppose that’s just life.

If I did have just one criticism as a whole for you, however, might be the way in which you present your arguments. Granted, this is more on twitter than YouTube, but more often than not you present your opinions very abrasively and harshly. An example could be the whole Quinten fiasco. Of course I don’t agree with him, and he honestly said some pretty messed up things, but I feel to merciless mock him constantly is giving into that kinda criticism yknow? And it sucks because I know you’re a smart person and I know you can grow from it and ignore him and move on, rather than stoop to his level. But then again, I suppose some people enjoy those unprecedented jabs at others.

But besides that. Keep doing what you’re doing. We really do appreciate the work you put into your videos and I’m glad you’re doing what you love

We’re glad to be stuck with you


I think the people that hated on you jumped on a bandwagon, and I've done that before in other communities as well. Honestly kinda sucks how influenced  people can be to an outlandish degree. And to be honest, ytp is nothing I ever saw to be serious or critical, so this kinda opened my eyes since I don't follow that content. Ytp should always be about the fun and humor, no matter who gets it or not.

Also, the way you did the sponsor was really funny, a lot more enjoyable than how most do it. I'd say good luck but I think you know what you're doing, so I'll stay along for the ride.


Yup, when things you do for fun stop being fun, it starts to become work.


You've trascended YTP. i'm an editing teacher at a filmschool in my country, and whenever i see your videos i always think to put you as an example, but i just can't fit you in the curriculum. Technically, the things you do in editing are almost on a professional level. Layers upon layers and deep-frying but always staying true to the message while keeping it entertaining. Your choice of music is spot-on, and i always add some songs from your videos to my playlist. Hell if some youtubers put on some efforts in placing the ad as well as you do ad-block wouldn't be necessary.

As a fellow editor i can always see the amount of effort you are putting in your videos, it's not easy to upload videos with this level of quality while studying for college, also being this honest. And that shows character. Even if Youtube disappears tomorrow, the level of skill you acquired over the years will make you flourish in every endeavour the future brings you.

I don't comment on videos because i don't like talking without knowing, this is the first time i write such an extensive comment because i think you deserve it. Please keep it up, you are on of the many beacons of hope in the hype-beast marketing machine that is current mainstream media in Youtube.

Sincerely


i used to watch your youtube poops and forgot about you and then found you again, you have inspired me to do many things like to make a 20 minute video about why i am leaving youtube itself


And so, emplemon lays down the bricks to the eventual road to the inevitable end. The whole time I watched this, I can only feel a sense of dread and genius. Emp certainly has been through shit more than most of the people on youtube.


It's weird how cs188 completely escapes this treatment despite being very popular.

@Lucas F Thanks. Just chose it due to liking the character that much, and what he means to the story, and what he represents. Plus, the memes are glorious too.

@Daedalus <br>completely off topic, but as a fan of Deus Ex, I really like your profile pic and username

@Daedalus
completely off topic, but as a fan of Deus Ex, I really like your profile pic and username

@wackyclock And it was never as well known then, because i never got the impression. The only thing i know is that he had to remove some vids to secure the integrity of the people in the HoH SiS vids.

he kinda had that but it was never to the extent that emplemon gets


I'm not sure how to put this, but....

The amount of depth of connection I can feel here is insane. Absurd. Impossible. You're so genuine, so heartfelt, so.... real.
You've taken the drama for what it is. You've taken the fame for what it is. You've taken the culture for what it is.
With every video, I can't help but respect you more and more. For the struggle. For the story. For the sincerity.

Whatever you end up doing, I want to see more of it. I'll be here, whatever comes next.


the fact ytp creators are called poopers is something ill never get over


Every video you release gets increasingly Pretty Good.


I want to leave a quick comment here before i have to clock back in from lunch. I discovered you through your YTPs and then continued to enjoy your content through the years. Especially love your new YT Geographic and Never Ever series. You're a first rate Youtuber in my book and that'll always be the case


I swear, you use the most fitting music for your videos.


"PewDiePie's YouTube Channel is in dire need to win this race against T-Series"

Yeah about that


so basically the ytp community watches your videos, likes it, and then when you get popular, they go like "aww i never liked you your so non talented waaaaa"


It blows me away that Emp was hated in the ytp community. I consider him to be one of the best YTPers with videos like Lightning McQueer and Enough is Enough being absolute classic ytp.


Despite the fact that he "doesn't poop anymore", he still poops a little bit.


I love this video. It's a pure heart to heart


Counter culture groups are inherently self destructive. That's why it's like this.

The reason for this is quite simple actually: When people gather into a group and start interacting regularly they develop their own culture.


Your Trump video is one of the best things Ive watched on any format relating to trump and memes in general. I'm sad you feel you needed to justify yourself, but having said that, you've made it interesting nonetheless


Can easily relate to a lot of the stuff you're saying. By far my shittiest content is the most viewed and what I blew up on. It almost seemed like the better I got at editing and more effort I put into a video, the LESS views I actually received. Although my content has died because my genre has died anyways... Love your content btw, even though I lurk a lot.

A check mark replied less than a minute ago...<br>Anyways a lot of my shittiest content gets way more views tan the stuff I work the hardest on. The only reason why some of my best videos get as many views as they do is because I advertise them on the shittier videos that get more views.

A check mark replied less than a minute ago...
Anyways a lot of my shittiest content gets way more views tan the stuff I work the hardest on. The only reason why some of my best videos get as many views as they do is because I advertise them on the shittier videos that get more views.


Good video mr emplemon, I didn’t know about all that stuff with ytp, that’s pretty interesting though. I discovered your channel at the leafy lookback thing and I really like your videos, I also like the little ytp bits you put in between stuff and would love to see a full ytp vid from you at some point, even though I don’t expect that


I may not be able to do much for you Lemon, but what I can say is stay strong, keep your chin up and stay humble. Oh, and DON’T make Frying Dory!!


hey emp. just know,  i still love your channel and i hope you do some nice shit... <3


Hey, the last day I was thinking about how I respect you. I thought you were kind of annoying on Twitter, but you are passionate, that's good, I respect passion, it's quite lacking in the world, imho. this has been educational. TY


This community was great when you were smaller but I think what happens is when you become big is that everyone turns on you, it made it seem like you were pandering to the masses but the thing was that they liked what you made. The YouTube Poop community is dying out now and shitposting is taking over, which in a way, in a very strange and twisted way are still YouTube Poops but I think in a small community larger members will be neglected by the other members, it's just how things work


He played the dirty jobs intro, I loved that show when I was 4. He is no longer emperor lemon, he is now God Lemon


God, I am about to sound like a total sympathetic sap, and I'm sorry since you asked for no sympathy. I hate making comments because you never know the replies, but this video really hit a soft spot to me. I never really questioned the start of the downward spiral, but mostly enjoyed and followed with it. I have grown up with watching you on and off, but only subscribed a couple years ago. My childhood friend and I actually watch your Hank Hill airport YTP every year when we visit each other because of the stupid enjoyment we have. I have grown with your videos all the way through and I just wanted to say, thanks for sticking to YouTube because I truly enjoyed this underground entertainment, and never had any hate nor criticism towards the shit you make. I hope you stick around for a couple years more, at least, so I can still enjoy it as a newly aged suffering adult. Thanks again.


EmpLemon you inspired me not only as a YouTuber but as a creator in general. I always watched you're videos sense way back to the YouTube Poop days. Even if people don't have respect to you, you have my respect as a fan. Always looking forward to your latest videos.


This is an exercise in extreme naval-gazing.


Seems like a lot of YTPing occured in this video on its own.


I've enjoyed all his ytps. i prefer personal style and humor over common video traits like spadinner. isn't that what ytp is, right?


Difference is EmpLemon isn't a pooper, he's a passionate artist who realized first we're all just humans, not fans


this isn't directly related with the video's subject matter but that patreon add at the very end is very unfortunate since felix actively went out his way to end the meme. poor guy who asked for it probably asked for it when it was in full swing too, who knows how long this has been in the making.


I enjoy your new videos,and I look forward to what comes next. But if there's one thing I wish I had, it would be for you to reupload the final episode of Admiral Ackbar's Traptastic Sextravaganza. I always considered that video your YTP magnum opus, a culmination of your talents as a video editor. You may never see this comment, but i had to make an attempt.


You are one of my biggest inspirations, know that probably dosent mean much but I'm not lying


"You're worthless, Drink milk." - Cody.
Oh, ok.
Guess I'll get some milk


Well it looks like the era of youtube poops is over for emplemon.


It has come to my attention that people dislike EmpLemon.  Like wtf?


YT Community: you've got popularity and fame now, what did it cost?
Emplemon: Everything. Dives into the Downward Spiral below

YT Community: you've got popularity and fame now, what did it cost?
Emplemon: Everything. *Dives into the Downward Spiral below*


I think the real tragedy is taking YTP seriously.


"Sir, I don't like how you poop."

Yea I don't like it either it's just diarrhea 6 days a week.


Me personally I loved the older ytps. Should I have been watching them considering I’m 13 now? Absolutely not. Not because they’re bad (I don’t find them to be) but because I was probably waaaay too young. But still I wouldn’t be me if not for YTP, and I like me. Kinda. If only I had tried my hand at ytp while I had the chance. Ah well, considering what this video told me perhaps that was for the better (assuming the ytps would be good)


I love both of your content for YTP and Dale earnhardt vid was amazing as a ignorant aussie that thought Nascar was just driving around in circles


There's a thing called crab mentality. If you put a load of crabs into a bucket as soon as one is able to claw its way out another crab will pull it back down. It seems that the YTP community is infested with crabs.


Omfg that’s what I know you from, started watching you (again) about 2 1/2 years ago and was like, man this shirks familier. THE UNCREDIBLES dude showing that to my class made everyone forget to call me “the funny kid in the corner” for a few months! Thank you!


I feel like the only other person that's in a similar boat to you is Digibro, even though he's an anituber (gross) and doesn't do YouTube poops. But still, his condition is similar but I doubt he's nearly not as hated.

This whole video, history you have and just about damn near everything about the typ community has been weird to listen to, and frankly I don't know what to make of it. I've watched this shit since I was in my mother's womb and never even knew this kind of drama existed, let alone youchew. In all reality, it just sours my memories because of some childish pricks.


I heard the weatherscan music and it was instantly familiar, but I couldn't put my finger on what it was. Then I checked the music list and immediately knew that was it. I listened to those songs every morning until they shut it down. RIP weatherscan.


And when everyone is on a downward spiral....

Hahahahaha,

No one will be

And when everyone is on a downward spiral....

Hahahahaha,

*No one will be*


And it’s a downward spiral
Gotta figure it out (out)
I gotta figure it out (out)
I gotta figure it out
Cause it’s the downward spiral
I gotta figure it out (out)
Gotta figure it out (out)
I gotta figure it out.              (Danny Brown Atrocity exhibition)


4:18
He's just throwing baseless insults which are entirely subjective and lack anything hard to fall back onto aside from the Pixar YTPs, which come off as "your vids are shit and so are your fans".


Respect on the internet? You absolute mad lad!


Instant good taste in music at the beginning of the video. That's the very same music PilotRedSun used for the Garfielf video. Men of culture!


Respect is just an idea people make up to control other people. You just learned it the hard way. Pain may be temporary and comments forever, but just because pain goes away doesn’t mean it can’t kill you, and just because comments sit on a server somewhere forever doesn’t mean they’re worth something.


Video title should change to "How to pat your own shoulder for 30 minutes straight."


I loved your ytps and I love your other vids too


I can't imagine giving that much thought to any YouTube video.  No offense to you my dude I mean I just can't wrap my head around doing anything more than dropping a like and or a comment or just simply ignoring trash. I feel no need to expend effort on trash.  As far as your critics I will quote a dear departed friend of mine, "Fuck em and feed em fish heads".


Man, I just watch YTP because it's great entertaining content. Why do people have to get so anal about this shit. It's just comedy and entertainment folks, your life doesn't depend on it.


I had no idea all those people fucking hated you. Personally, I think your YTPs are perfectly fine (my favorite being "Admiral Ackbar's Traptastic Sextravaganza Part 3"), but I also think the stuff you're doing now is even better.


They think the poops changed but really it was them who had changed. Probably in the same way people outgrow video games 🙁. I’ve personally been watching poops for 10 years and I’m sure many other people here have too. In that amount of time I could see someone outgrowing it or getting sick of it and associating it with the product. Good thing I’m never growing up! DOWNWARD SPIRAL


I know nothing about this YTP community, but it sounds a whole lot like the Yugioh TCG community. Which is super cancerous. Which hates established and popular people while wanting to be said established and popular themselves. Which is why I left the Yugioh TCG community. Probably for good.


a loud ass car alarm went off the instant stuart k riley said the words "downward spiral"

i genuinely thought it was part of the video til i realised the sound was getting annoying and paused it


Love this video btw. I'm a small channel myself just doing what I want, not caring what people say.


I think YouTube automatically unsubscribed me from your channel at some point.


Youtube keeps unsubbing me and idk why, but it hasn't stopped me from watching your videos


You were a big fish who out-grew your small pond.


But is this Emp the real one? Or the phantom?


We need to get the most random and useless comments to the top of this comment section.

DO YOU NOT AGREE


Hey EmpLemon. I want to tell you a short story. I actually can relate to u in a sense. Back in 2014 I actually made an MLG video. MLG inside out. It was my first parody video. I had no idea what I was doing. And out of nowhere it blew up, it’s sitting at 5 million. I made a few more MLG videos and none of them got as big. Many people kept being toxic and putting me down. I was only 13 at the time and I just wanted to make these videos cuz I thought they were funny. But no one wanted me to make them. So I stoped. But now it’s 5 years later. I just want to make videos I like. It’s difficult though. Because none of them are as popular as what that one video did so many years ago. I’ve been going on a downward spiral of shit posting and I want to stop and get better. For me.


The hate is likely jealousy. Jealousy of you becoming as popular as you did- and it just so happens a lot of YTP people can't handle that.


I just watched an entire groove ring commercial for you senpai. You better notice me.


We might be stuck with you but that guy is stuck with himself.


Punished venom lemon a fallen ytp legend.


Downward spiral meme comment. Look I'm funny for criticism. Funnier because self aware. Epic gamer moment.


damn forgot flyingkitty did ytps before despacito 2

also solid vid, emp


So not even the YouTube Poop community is immune to the "it was better back in my day" sentiment? I smell a lot of gatekeeping. It smells like poop. I'm only half-way through this video, but this has changed my view on you entirely. I actually used to feel the same way about your "recent" YouTube Poops (namely The Uncredibles) and I just thought it wasn't that great, but then for whatever reason I got mad when I saw your entire genre shifted. Why would I have cared? I didn't know either, but I can assure you that these newer videos are more helpful to the greater good of humanity than some poop ever could be. But then it hit me: you grew up when nobody else did, and you made a name for yourself while just about everyone besides Cs188 stays sad and bitter. That is a feat worthy of respect far beyond anything that could be mustered for some manchildren who say "sauce" 500 times. Your case reminds me a bit of TheMysteriousMrEnter who is best known for his "Animated Atrocities" series, but his situation has yet to see much light (see his "Talking about my online harassment" and "Talking about my cyberstalker" videos for a pretty clear image.) Otherwise this video was great. I actually felt like a better person after watching this.


Hey man, don't listen to the comment section. just do you


why the fuck were people complaining about ascended<br>i like that and the sequels the most out of all your pre-downward-spiral content

why the fuck were people complaining about ascended
i like that and the sequels the most out of all your pre-downward-spiral content


You always assume popular people are universally liked and invincible. That's why we don't think criticism affects them. We don't think they even suffer from it with all the fans, stans, and cults around popular people. We didn't know that our opinions do reach the person in the first place. That's why we don't care about expressing our true feelings, or even exaggerating our hatred for a popular person because we assume their fans will protect them.


when i saw this thumbnail i thought it was a bill wurtz video


There will never ever be another comment like that one.


Been here since the YTP days.

Specifically the King of the Hill ones.


... this is really weird, and I regret clicking on this.


I can understand that some different opinions(hurricoaster and chemical guy) want to put standards on a form of mockery and critisism, but changing things up can improve something and make it last longer. For example, Team Fortress 2 was going to be a bland shooter and would of died long ago, but the devs added weapons, cosmedics, different game modes, and a bunch of live saving content to the game that is responsible for its popularity today. You might not be making YTPs anymore and i can understand that(ytps are dying in popularity and are florishing), but I and many other people enjoyed your content and enjoyed you as a person. You made great and valid points in your critisism videos too(jimmy kimmel and logan paul rants for example). You've inspired me (in a way) to start experimenting with Sony Vegas and try to make content to make people happy. You sure as hell made me happy many times, and I hope you enjoyed your life knowing that you made me, and a bunch of people happy with the content you've made. I dont know what will happen in the future, but whatever it is, i hope you had fun and i hope you enjoyed the time you had on youtube. No matter the criticism by popular ytpers or any other people, you are still loved for changing the meta of ytps and editing entirely. I hope you read this and enjoyed it, knowing you made someone happy for a long time!


Icb EmpLemon is the YTP equivalent of Syndrome


Yeah, your Pixar YTPs are shit. However, I love memes, thieves, and auto insurance, "ONNEADA BEST YTPS OV ALL TIME" -Kanye


Emplemon: Talking about no making ytp anymore
Also Emplemon: gonna make my sellout chunk of the video with ytp

You are the best lemon
Jajajajaja


Love ya in the YTP era, and I love ya now. You're awesome.


Bro you just posted Pewdiepie!

You are going to be called a 9-year-old!


2:33
ahh.. the good old days
where we had good laughs and goobers.
now we just have existential dread and hatred :(


Back in the day I didn't like your poops. They were too "clean" and well produced to be poops. Then again, everyone at that time had shifted to these over-produced ytps.
BUT

Your commentary stuff is top-notch. Everyone and their grandmother is doing commentary right now, but very few stand out and even less provide quality content. You manage to make some REALLY good stuff that's really well done and incredibly gripping. A 30 minute video on Nascar? I've never seen a Nascar race in my life but I've seen that video 3 times already. It's THAT good.

Also the respect you've gotten from the general YouTube "community" is well deserved.

-Some rando on the internet whose opinion doesn't matter


26:56 wait
i actually use password1 at school
:thonk:


Smh Lelmon, Just create random accounts and make YTP on them, and never tell anyone it's you. Whenever the channel gets too popular, delete it and make another one.

P.S: THE END OF SUS!


Yesterday I was thinking about this guy and today boom a video


damn emp, back at it again w a great video. i wish the best success for you and hope that you're doing well. keep it up my brooda.


You know what, Lemon? You can just shutup, just because you're right doesn't mean you're correct


>YTP fandom

Holy shit this was an actual thing


what if you forgot your password for dashlane


I have barely any friends and people dislike me automatically and just as you I fall into the unpopular side and no one has ever told me why... <b>end my suffering...</b>

I have barely any friends and people dislike me automatically and just as you I fall into the unpopular side and no one has ever told me why... *end my suffering...*


Thanks for another 30 minutes of the <b>D O W N W A R D   S P I R A L</b>

Thanks for another 30 minutes of the *D O W N W A R D   S P I R A L*


Man ive been around since frying dory 2 first got uploaded. Stayed around for everything. Kinda surreal seeing him discuss it when i lived through it


EmpLemon used Gran Turismo music at 4:55.
requesting Gran Turismo gameplay vid

EmpLemon used Gran Turismo music at 4:55.
*requesting Gran Turismo gameplay vid*

He's been using Gran Turismo 4 music since, as far as I know, the first BTM video.


Ironically your complaining is why i subscribed and respected you


23:43 I dunno, seems like there's some fragments of YTP 💩 mixed in. Maybe it's deep ingrained in your editing style. Great, right? I think so. Nonetheless, I like them a lot. I hope you enjoyed making this video because I enjoyed watching it


Nice touch putting Grand Turismo 5 music.


That last clip is a bit old... T Series is already at 100m ;p


Id Me: "You should post a comment that's purposefully petty so you can get on this series!"
Me: "You're right!" starts typing
Ego Me: "But EmpLemon is a good guy, and you're not a dick."
Me: "...You're right."

*Id Me:* "You should post a comment that's purposefully petty so you can get on this series!"
*Me:* "You're right!" _starts typing_
*Ego Me:* "But EmpLemon is a good guy, and you're not a dick."
*Me:* "...You're right."


Comment etiquette posts the comments himself


You either die a hero<br>or live long enough to see yourself become the villain...

You either die a hero
or live long enough to see yourself become the villain...


Who could have guessed that the community centered around autistic content was indeed autistic?


Okay... Let me try...
*Offensive comment*


The YTP community reminds me of the beauty community It's a bunch of people talking about ship most people don't care about see the resemblance

Just a bunch of gatekeeping, its pathetic


Aboriginal tribes who had never seen fire


Emp, I think you need help. This spiral obsession is getting out of hand.

@44 Calibre agree, the downward spiral must continue.

Shut up Tojo, you're the reason Japan got nuked twice instead of once.
(Lol)
But in all seriousness I disagree, I think he made a fun little mantra out of it


UNcredibles > Toys Gone Wild<br>Prove me wrong.

UNcredibles > Toys Gone Wild
Prove me wrong.


I consider you on the same level as psychic pebbles. I'll watch anything you're on


I disagree with your political opinion, and I cannot relate to your content; but you have absolutely amazing content and have convinced me to be a better man in my darker times. So...

Can we get a DOWNWARD SPIRAL in the chat?


I don't know a single youtuber who makes an entire video about himself and his channel <br>Maybe that's the problem

I don't know a single youtuber who makes an entire video about himself and his channel
Maybe that's the problem

@Somnus he was telling a story from his own perspective

"I tried" "i did" "i made" "i gave"<br>Stop dude

"I tried" "i did" "i made" "i gave"
Stop dude

I don't really think this was about himself. It was more about his interactions with the YTP community and how he was eventually alienated


Make a second YTP account and don’t tell anyone.


also their avatar is a furry and i truly mean it when i say; i think that says everything. no memeing. it just is what it is.


All you do is complain, complain, complain


i sub to both flyingkitty and schaffrillas productions, but they both good. you too mr emp

Same! I have Notifications turned on for all of them, I think. Only the best of the best get my notifs!


As a hapless goober in your comment section, where the TF2 at???


Just from the thumbnail and not the title I knew this was u


You did the same thing to behind the meme


great vid unsubed (what i just said is a joke)


"...Over the past three years I had witnessed my fun hobby soiled with bitterness, resentment, and complaints...The only thing left for me to do was complain back."

Literally watched the quote as I read this.


This channel has been an incredible journey to watch. I’m excited to see how you’ll continue to evolve as a creator.


Emp, I'm absolutely ecstatic whenever I see that you upload. Just do what you want to do and the true fans will be there to support you. I love your content so much! Keep up the great work.


I'm sorry to hear what you've been through. I was aware that there was some beef between you and the YTP community but I didn't think it was that bad. I always thought your YTPs were great from your old to your newest. Whilst I think that the Frying Nemo series started out amazing but later on was running thin on the humor I still think it was great and I always thought that you enjoyed making them and didn't just do them for views and subscribers. I can't understand why people can't just be happy for one's success sometimes.

I'm happy you didn't let all the hate and bullshit stop you in your tracks and you fought back, and I'm happy that you didn't quit YouTube at your lowest point, because your new content is just as great as your best YTPs, (sometimes better!) you are legit one of the best content creators on this shit platform even though you are still at 400k.

I've lost interest in YouTube Poops anyway. Recent newer ones I saw weren't even funny at all, I get more laughs from memes and shit-posts than modern YTPs. I'll still cherish the fantastic times and laughs your YouTube Poops gave me though along with the ones from other great YTPers such as cartoonlover98, Trudermark and cs188, and if you ever make another one, I'll be excited to watch it cause I always thought you made the best ones. 🙂

And even if you don't, I'll always be looking forward and excited for your new videos. Keep doing what you do and take care! 👍


Hey Emp, if you do happen to see this comment I want to know something important. Your drive, your passions, your channel, your mark on time all of it I admire and I always have. I ive been a lurker for a long time ( years really)  and I need you to understand " You did a great and wonderful job" I truly mean this,  and whatever you choose to do with your channel is not up to me, its you, and you know that.  I"m here to stay and i'll always will be here. - Godspeed


Wow, eye-opening. Respect to you for moving on, no matter how long it takes. I’ve learned a lot by watching you learn a lot. I hope you realise your dream of full time youtube, I for one would look forward to it.


I loved you for your YTPs, I love you for your comprehensive analysis of internet phenomenons. I've had my fair share of community rejection on the internet and everybody knows that this kind of bullshit is useless. Just keep getting better and better man !


This was really depressing but really motivational. Thank you EmpLemon.


I’ve always loved your videos and I kinda grew up watching your stuff. It’s amazing to know we were the same age when some of those videos came out. Listen to me dude, keep doing what you do, do what you love, and make sure that downward spiral stays spicy my man. You’re an absolute legend and one of the people I’ll always look up to.


I've been watching you since your ytp years, I've always liked the content and didn't care that you left from the ytp scene (or even noticed it) because your content is still good.


Dude you have given me and my buddies enough laughs over the years, Screw these other butthurt goons who cant appreciate that you have been successful on this platform that has only been catering to certain channels and making is difficult for other smaller different channels to  succeed. You keep doing your thing, Not what everyone else thinks you should.

Ive watched most all of your videos made in the past few years, Your doing fine my dude I mean hell the view count on this video is near 1/4 of your sub count..


I've been here since the beginning, and I want to say some stuff despite you saying you don't need the sympathy:
Your videos are great. Your ytp(the reason I subscribed) are well orchestrated and masterfully crafted, your rants are well-thought and well-spoken making an understandable exposition.
I didn't know about the drama, I'm here just to have a few minutes of fun between my day-to-day chores, and you deliver often (not always, but nobody's perfect and even your favorite show has shit episodes); so fuck anyone and everyone, you keep on doing your stuff and I'll keep coming to enjoy it.


Proud of you and this channel Emp. You don’t know me, but I’ve been subscribed since around 2013 and have been able to witness all the changes. It’s been quite a ride, but as long as you’re happy, I’m always going to be happy to listen.


I feel like this “community”’s reaction to overrated content reflects on your view of popular culture, especially within the podcast. This was a very interesting video and a good documentary on your personal experiences. This is a prime example of internet toxicity and hatred of popular things. Friggin clout chasers smh


I remember years ago, I was sending your YTPs to friends on Facebook, I was never aware of any drama for making those videos, as I thought it was all for fun. It's definitely over you being one of the most popular YTPers, and jealously over the content you created. Since you've moved on, I only miss your YTPs since it marked a time where the Internet was a joyful, creative way to make entertainment, however, there should always be a time to move on from what you used to do, to focus more on what you want to do. Amazing video as always, and thank you for the insight to an issue I personally would've never seen, unless I was in the community myself


I like how your videos are still somewhat in a YTP style. I think it is entertaining, and it really adds to your videos. It makes you stand out a lot more.


Damn. This was 10/10. You seriously know how to make any topic interesting.


Was going to close this video 5 minutes in because I thought it would just be 30 minutes of safely throwing shit at ancient comments, but instead got an exposé into a long dead internet community, a history of the channel, and a personal introspective into your values and attitudes towards others.

You're more genuine then ever.


I have always enjoyed you're content and it was the thing that got me into ytp


Honestly out of all of the stuff you've put out, this one was the most honest to me. I'm not sure why or how it is, but I liked it. <br>Emp, if you're reading this then I want you to know that in my opinion this series is great already. 10/10

Honestly out of all of the stuff you've put out, this one was the most honest to me. I'm not sure why or how it is, but I liked it.
Emp, if you're reading this then I want you to know that in my opinion this series is great already. 10/10


Congrats on graduating. I subscribed because of the different point of views you take on "criticism" other youtubers, genre, current events... etc.

So yeah. Wishing you the best!


As much as I'd like a YTP, I want you to make videos that you enjoy. I discovered you for the YTP. I stayed for the rest of your quality content.

Thanks for helping to shape me into who I am today, Emp. I'm actually in a downward spiral, myself. I'll be with you to get  S U C C E D  in hard.

As much as I'd like a YTP, I want you to make videos that you enjoy. I discovered you for the YTP. I stayed for the rest of your quality content.

Thanks for helping to shape me into who I am today, Emp. I'm actually in a downward spiral, myself. I'll be with you to get  _S U C C E D_  in hard.


I love it when youtubers make sponsorships fun to watch.


What a thoughtful and introspective way to start the morning. I didn’t intend to watch this video first thing in the morning, but you just happened to upload and you like your content. I guess in a way it’s an isolated incident of the ytp discussion here...I’m impressed with how much introspection you provide for your channel here and it’s progression. I’m sure it doesn’t alleviate all the questions, pain and stress you’ve endured getting to this stage of the downward spiral, but I’m glad you were able to find a way eloquently sift through the confusion, anger, derision, and resentment and share your history with onlookers such as myself. In a way, I think it’s a beacon of hope to those that feel lost in their path, to learn how to make sense of the chaos of this spiral called life. Keep up the brave work that you do Emp.


I never knew youtube poop consumers had such high standards.<br>I'll be honest, I'm not into YTP and I rarely indulge, I actually prefer your rant videos.

I never knew youtube poop consumers had such high standards.
I'll be honest, I'm not into YTP and I rarely indulge, I actually prefer your rant videos.


I never watched any of your YTP's, nor have I really ever watched any YTP's ever. I like your current content a lot Emp. Actually, I just like you. I really liked your Leafy video and your Dale Earnhardt video a lot. I never realized how lonely you must feel. Having an entire community turn on you for seemingly no reason in a day. I feel that a lot. I don't know if you'll see this comment, but this was a really great video Emp. Probably my favorite video to date. I like you a lot Emp and for what it's worth I'd love to talk to you. Not for clout or fame or anything. I dunno. Keep being amazing Emp. I'm glad a vid of yours actually popped in my recommended for once. I'm happy I didn't miss this. I don't usually leave comments so I don't really know what to say other than, thank you! I appreciate everything you do.

 -Hunter <3


Man that was really good. Gave me a lot of insight into hatred in fanbases and what happens when you rise to fame


I can’t remember when I subscribed, but I do remember watching your videos when I was a loner in high school, and I enjoyed them a lot. Even now, I still enjoy your content, and I look forward to seeing what you post in the future


Your videos are fucking incredible, it's like watching mini documentaries.


YTP is an old beauty of youtube and the epitome of passion projects to me. Imagine sitting down at a computer compiling clips of earrape cartoon characters and sex jokes and shitposts. I would never think anybody would be into that


I can relate to this video so much. I shall follow in your footsteps Dad❤


Emp let me give you some advice, make the kind of content you want to make because at the end of the day no one can truly force you to make any different type of content except for you.


Your story sounds eerily similar to my story as a TW clan leader. I started off playing total war and met some of the greatest players in the series. I greatly admired them and wanted to be like them. So after years of trying and getting good at those games, I eventually did....and I wanted the respect more than anything else for it. But the backlash I recieved once I became good, established my own clan, and became a threat......it devastated me when virtually everyone I had so much respect for now became my bitter enemies. The conflicts and dramas arising from it effected me to a point where after 6 years, I quit that community and havnt returned since, abandoning my clan and leaving that community to die as it mostly has by now.


“And when I’m old and I’ve had my fun, I’ll sell my spiral so that everyone can be downward”

amazing


I would never say I was all that into ytp's very much but jeez I never thought they could be so salty and tbh it feels like they have become the very thing they try to stand against lmao.


To me, I love what this cahnnel has become. being deep, bringing insights into americas culture or the internet i have never thought about.
its very akin to Nietzsche, this video especially, you are just one man Fighting his own fight.
Carry on.


Damn this is a deep spiral. I heard about you through The Uncredibles but didn't start surfing this storm until ASCENDEDᵃˢᶜᵉᶰᵈᵉᵈ, I've weirdly enjoyed the variety this spiral brought with it even watching an hour long video on a sport I think sucks, featuring an athlete I didn't care for and ultimately enjoying it.


I actually stumbled across you when I watched your Spaceballs YTP way way back, before The Uncredibles. Me and my buddy never stopped watching the poops. We loved them all, even the simpsons ones. Because we saw them as funny videos that made us laugh, that’s it. We still quote your videos to this day. I stopped watching when the whole downward spiral thing really took off because I hated how rude and perceivably whiny I saw you become. But like most of us, we didn’t know the whole story. And now I understand why you did what you did and even feel bad. To be lambasted by your entire audience and the people you looked up to and saw as heroes, I could never imagine what that must of felt like. I probably would of done the same thing honestly. I started watching again after you mellowed out and started doing your own thing. I can’t say I watch your stuff as much as I used to, but I’m still subbed and still pop in to see what you’ve been up to. Never stop doing what you love Empy. I’m glad you’ve moved on from all the hate and crazy lashing out. I love the new stuff and new series you do now. God bless you Emp.


to be fairly honest, the entirety of human society seems to be on a downward spiral. but I, for one, actually like the monologue videos that you upload. you're a good storyteller, and your honesty is more valuable to me as a viewer of your channel than your YTPs.

P.S. I still treat myself to The Shrekoning every once in a while because your YTPs were entertaining.


i came back to like this video because i watched it while i went to sleep and it kept me up for an hour or so. This was beautiful and i really really really enjoyed this video. Im sorry for hearing this but your channel is really amazing to me and honestly, im glad im stuck with you


These are the videos that I have come to expect from your Emp...keep it up!


Now, it almost feels like the YTP Community, or maybe, all communities, had a lot of drama that is actually going on now.


Nice to see you getting sponsors, keep up the great videos


damn, that was a rough timeline, one community against one man.


this was surprisingly compelling. the history of this channel is passionate & tragic, but as someone who wasn’t around for the YTP days, i can really only appreciate the story & content of this channel. maybe some people don’t care about it anymore, but personally i do. don’t think my opinion really holds that much weight, but regardless i can certainly say this is one of my favorite channels on this hellsite.


Remember guys, it's easier for hackers to take your passwords from a pass manager than it is to steal a bit of paper from your desk.


You have found your new thing allready. Odd and unexpected documentaries like the dale docu pure perfection.


I don't think YTP has ever been about anything in particular, except maybe having fun.

This perception that YTP should be counter culture is just the result of people reading too far into things. Given a blank canvas, the human mind naturally expresses it's dislike of culture. Because even the straightest, squarest, most tame person imaginable resents the influence culture imposes onto them. The only reason they tolerate it at all is because it's familiar, they deem it necessary, and because the positive aspects of it are inseparable from the negative.

It has nothing to do with any overall purpose the art may have. Counter culture is just part of you mind doing it's thing when it's a home and doesn't have to conform to socially sanctioned rules and institutions. When you build a community around that, a new culture starts to develop and the whole thing starts all over again.

The downward spiral isn't just something that applies to EmpLemon. It's the course of nature itself to be always coing around in circles like that. Remembering to have fun, making up rules under-which the fun is supposed to be had, getting lost in the game of ingroups and outgroups until the fun is forgotten, becoming aware of how out of hand things have become, and then finally remembering to just have fun again.

EmpLemon, Youtube randomly recommended this video to me for no discernible reason, but I'm glad I clicked it. I think it's great you've moved on to a new pattern of being.


For what it's worth. <br>I respect you Emp


Never knew people took their YTP so seriously lol


I dont normally comment but i remember watching your empty subscriber video so i thought id let you know that you are actually my favourite youtuber based o n  your latest videos rather than youtube poop. Keep it uip man


it's okay bud xarlable still makes ytpmvs and your nascar vid is the some of the best youtube i've seen so thanks emp for sticking around and being useful unlike the ytpers that sold out/disappeared/quit


Imagine taking YTP so seriously they have to be mean at some kid for the kind of YTP he made.


I don't know why, but Emplemon's story as a youtuber is so much like the tragic story of a mafia kingpin trying to make his way into the world.


Been here since '11 (I actually had an account in '10 but forgot my password) and loved like 95% of your videos from YTPs and Long Commentary. Looking forward (or in the downward spiral) to the upcoming videos. Please stay my guy. And PS. Fuck Stuart K Riley #DownwardSpiralWorldTour2019


Now I have a good reason as to why I just stopped making shitty edits. Thanks emplemon.


Well, I for one did not know you had ever been a YTPer. I subbed because of videos like <i>this</i>

Well, I for one did not know you had ever been a YTPer. I subbed because of videos like _this_


I do know that some people feel that they've been snubbed and denied credit in collabs, but I can't speak to the truthfulness of those claims.


Can't understand why someone could hate you.  You made great youtube poops, and your more documentary style works are absolutely amazing!  The soundtrack, voice work and script, editing (while minimalistic in design, it still evokes emotion in tandem with the soundtrack)  You do great work, and I hope you continue to make the kind of content that you enjoy making.


Oh shit this shit is a trip. The more I watch it the more I'm like damn.<br>But hey man I'm not a big ytp guy but you're a good youtuber keep it up man

Oh shit this shit is a trip. The more I watch it the more I'm like damn.
But hey man I'm not a big ytp guy but you're a good youtuber keep it up man


didnt even know you made ytp vids. nice to know the origins of the lemon


This happened to KroboProductions/Dikekike, too. He's my favourite YTP of all time but apparently other people started to hate on him (?) and this video perfectly explains why.


When a consumer finds something they REALLY like (a band, restaurant, TV series, Youtube channel, etc.), the reason they REALLY like it, is because the content and their tastes just so happen to be perfectly aligned. But, inevitably, either the tastes of the producer, consumer, or both, will shift over time, destroying that magical "alignment." This in itself isn't a problem, it's totally normal, but what IS a problem is when the consumer (who could be losing interest for any number of reasons) assumes the reduction in enjoyment is the creator's fault.

YTP's by their very nature are extremely sensitive to this, I think. When a lot of us started watching them a decade or more ago, the internet, and (more importantly) OURSELVES, were very different to what they are today. Most of us were still young and naive. Rewatching the 'classic' YTP's is still extremely enjoyable, not necessarily because they're higher quality or funnier than today's YTP, but because we watch them through a child's eyes, so to speak. It's not the content in the video we're remembering fondly, it's the EXPERIENCE we had the first time we watched it. So I think it's dumb to assume a creator is "selling out," or "going on a *D̮̭̮̦̪̹ͅO̝̞̫W͕̬̣͡N̨̛̻̪͚̘̩͖̖͙W̛̯̬͇̲͜͝A̢̰̥R̡̟͈͉̠͚̙̖̘̳͢͞D̴̠̪̲̰̠̼ ̮̗̰̰̭̫̀͝ͅS̵̠̼P̴͞҉̪͚̤̜̱̹͖ͅI̛̯̜̖R̺̝͎͇̲͔͜A͎̩̼͞͡L̷͖̦̭̲̞̙͝ ̵̨̱̭̬͚͕*" just because their videos don't make you happy like they used to. It's not that simple.


You could make a gosh darn movie about EmpLemon. which would result in some lurking fan of him making a poop of it to mild success. and so, the downward spiral continues.


I subscribed for ytp's i stayed because of downward spiral. <br>I liked your content then, i like your content now and I am realy glad that you went through the spiral until you broke through the floor and kept going.

I subscribed for ytp's i stayed because of downward spiral.
I liked your content then, i like your content now and I am realy glad that you went through the spiral until you broke through the floor and kept going.


I think it’s ridiculous to critique a ytp. They are supposed to be nonsense and that’s why they are great.


I'm ashamed to admit that I complained about the earrape back then. Please forgive me, EmpLemon! I still love your ytps and new videos! I just had weaker ears back then.


Okay, but I legitimately think your Green Simpsons YTPs are funnier than your older YTPs. Except Hank Hill's Airport Apocalypse. That one's a masterpiece in my eyes.


congrats for graduating and holy shit that 100 subs doodle is cute as hell


The furry from YouChew is kinda right...
If you take something that's supposed to be fun (and as absurd as YTP) and turn into the realest shit, you're not gonna find it fun anymore, or you gonna ruin the fun for everybody like he pretty much did.

But very good video as usual.


Dude, i feel you so much. I mean i shit post lp's on my upload channel and have fun streaming some games. But no is watching. I am sure that if i got legit and porf at it, i could make it big. Real big. Nut that field is so toxic. I would so much like a group of peoole to work together or something.


fucking amazing, high quality video. Respecc my dude


Emp. L You are a rare creator.<br>One of a thousand creators that you come back to  their channel and its still awesome

Emp. L You are a rare creator.
One of a thousand creators that you come back to  their channel and its still awesome


16:50 One shudders to imagine what inhuman thots lie behind that mask.


that clears some stuff
only met you post ytp
this was actually really nice

also not related but really like the way you edit and i wish some day i could do somthing with the same quality as you


Best sponsership ive seen along with Internet Historian.

But i use lastpass... Guess i should use BOTH

Besides my joke, but hell i think this is the best self reflection and philosophical analysis of individual youtubers.

I guess i need to reflect my own self like this one. Not so dire nor big deal as yours, but me as well has some internet problem caused by my own creation.

Good god where is my mirror?


If you want to make Ytp, make em, if you don't, don't.

Whatever content is the most passionate for you I'll probably watch.


What was the voice to text thing you used?<br>It sounds pretty neat.

What was the voice to text thing you used?
It sounds pretty neat.


I'm sorry, I came to the YTP world and your channel late, but honestly the things you do now are so much more interesting and linger longer than any YTP I've seen and to me it's almost entirely from just having something to say, which many YTPs don't. I'll always respect the game though, which YTPs don't get enough of, but I think you're only going up and I like to imagine it's because of your work in YTPs; keeping conversations and ideas fresh, complex, and evolving.