But what about flaws..?<br>If Rainbow was too loyal, and had no flaws, she would have become a Mary Sue

But what about flaws..?
If Rainbow was too loyal, and had no flaws, she would have become a Mary Sue

"We're not perfect, we're a work in progress"

Gabbie Gachaveon yeah rainbow dash is a awesome pony

yes and rainbow dash would NEVER want to be a Mary Sue

@Dog with a bucket hat  okay when you put it that way it actually does make sense.. thanks for that :) sorry if i seemed triggered, i didn't mean to.. i'm not really into mlp anymore anyway, but there are still some things about it that i enjoy.. so yeah thank you for your input because you actually helped me understand rainbow dash better.. i often have a very black and white way of thinking, so the fact that one of the ponies would struggles to stay true to her element didn't make sense to me, but now i know that the whole point of being the embodiment of an element is to learn more about the element and learn about yourself and others as you go along, because the point is that you care.. you might mess up sometimes and go through certain struggles, but you still care and you try your best to be good and make the right choices because no one's perfect but we just try to be loyal, we try to be kind, we try to spread positivity, we try to be giving, we try not to be dishonest, and we don't always do those things or be those things but that's okay because we're all imperfect humans who are all just trying our best.. for some reason that message wasn't very obvious to me in mlp, because the elements were made out to be such an important thing within the characters so to see one of them actually struggling to be true to their element was confusing for me to say the least.. you know it was actually the show doctor who that helped me understand that message better, when one of the doctors (the 12th incarnation to be precise) was wondering if he's a good man or not and his companion (and closest friend) clara tells him that she doesn't know, but he tries to be and that's the point. That was actually in the 2nd episode of their first series (series 8 of the reboot) and one of the main themes of series 8 is that nobody's perfect, and i would even say that it is the main theme, especially considering what we see the characters go through and experience and the depth and development that we see.

Sorry for the extremely long reply lol, but i honestly am very happy that you helped me flip my perspective :)

Kendra Curtis are you triggered that sometimes RD struggles being loyal? I mean, as ‘Donut’ commented, that you have been working really hard for your dream and then suddenly you either pick your friends or an opportunity to actually reach your long-term goal that you worked all your life. It would’ve been hard for people in real life to pick...and that “inconsistency” in writing is helping her character development to actually image her as the embodiment of loyalty

@Dez Pong well she isn't a favourite of mine but i wouldn't say i dislike her; i just think the way her character is written isn't very good sometimes. There's a lot of inconsistency with the writing in mlp and a lot of things come up that literally make no sense, like rainbow dash struggling to be loyal.

@woofuyu yes, she is a character with flaws and that's good, but struggling to be truly loyal should not be one of her flaws if she's meant to represent the element.

@Kendra Curtis you just don't like rd, don't you?

Kendra Curtis Bruh if rainbow dash was perfect it would ruin the show also there is a phrase that is Soo true it is NOBODYS PERFECT OK?

@Trisha Kulkami<br>A Mary Sue is a female character who is 100% percent with no flaws.

@Trisha Kulkami
A Mary Sue is a female character who is 100% percent with no flaws.

@Donut No, you're not a bad person, it was Rainbow Dash's dream, after all

Am I a bad person for simply sticking with rainbow dash in that episode where she almost joined the wonderbolts during the Equestria games? Like... Even if you're super loyal to your friends, no one should stop you from achieving your dreams if that's what you want to do. They shouldn't make you feel bad for taking opportunities. That's why it was super selfless and loyal of Dash to go with ponyville in the end anyway.

Being too loyal can be a flaw. Just look at Percy Jackson! That's his fatal flaw!

@sarah spelled backwards is haras. True*

@Kendra Curtis she did nothing wrong. Ever.

@Swolf19 I don't mean taking it to that extreme. Obviously make sure you care for yourself first but if you have a choice between being with your friends and dismissing your idols or ditching your friends and going with your idols it shouldn't be hard for you to choose which if loyalty is the thing you value most in yourself. And friends who would take advantage of what you value in yourself aren't real friends. If you're being treated like a doormat then your friends help stop it and show you how to be balanced in your values, like in Putting Your Hoof Down with Fluttershy. Her element is kindness and she learnt that she can be firm with others without being unkind with the help from 2 of her friends. Personally I relate to Fluttershy a lot, and I've also experienced similar things as you with being too loyal and I've been taken advantage of (and sometimes still am) because of what i value most in myself and others. But I've also learnt what real friends are and to distance myself from those who drain me mentally and emotionally. It doesn't make sense for Rainbow Dash to learn how to be loyal; if she's supposed to be the embodiment of loyalty then she should have no trouble with choosing to be loyal over other things the first chance she gets. <br>"I know now who I should have been loyal to." Sorry but if you're the embodiment of loyalty you should already know who to be loyal to in the first place.

@Swolf19 I don't mean taking it to that extreme. Obviously make sure you care for yourself first but if you have a choice between being with your friends and dismissing your idols or ditching your friends and going with your idols it shouldn't be hard for you to choose which if loyalty is the thing you value most in yourself. And friends who would take advantage of what you value in yourself aren't real friends. If you're being treated like a doormat then your friends help stop it and show you how to be balanced in your values, like in Putting Your Hoof Down with Fluttershy. Her element is kindness and she learnt that she can be firm with others without being unkind with the help from 2 of her friends. Personally I relate to Fluttershy a lot, and I've also experienced similar things as you with being too loyal and I've been taken advantage of (and sometimes still am) because of what i value most in myself and others. But I've also learnt what real friends are and to distance myself from those who drain me mentally and emotionally. It doesn't make sense for Rainbow Dash to learn how to be loyal; if she's supposed to be the embodiment of loyalty then she should have no trouble with choosing to be loyal over other things the first chance she gets.
"I know now who I should have been loyal to." Sorry but if you're the embodiment of loyalty you should already know who to be loyal to in the first place.

Kendra Curtis There is one major flaw to that idealism. You are more than highly susceptible to becoming a door mat. You will no doubt decide friends and family come first always and put them on a high pedestal. In saying that, not only will they take advantage of you, but you lose everything that made you special in the first place. Loyalty does not mean you always have to put someone first or "loyal to a fault". Loyalty more symbolizes that you are loyal when they need you, even if that includes criticism. I am speaking from direct experience, from door mat status to loyalty with confidence. RD is a favorite of mine because not only can I see directly how she embodies loyalty, but how her faults, much like mine, can prove you can be loyal without being a doormat.

No. It doesn't make sense for her to struggle to be loyal. If you're a loyal person who values the loyalty you have in yourself over everything else, it shouldn't be hard for you to put your friends or loved ones first.


Rainbow Dash totally deserves her element it's not always easy but practice makes perfect.


I know that this was six years ago but the thing is, she cares about her friends in the end of most episodes she chooses to be loyal such as the episode where she trains with 2 teams but she can't decide who though in the end she obviously chooses ponyville. I'd say a well written character is a character with flaws, etc. So I guess I could say, her element is well deserved, she has proven to be loyal plenty of times.


In the episode where rainbow keeps swapping with the two teams and considers flying with the wonderbolts she was actually VERY loyal she didn’t want to hurt her friends feelings and she wanted a chance to fly with the wonderbolts which is her DREAM the only thing wrong is that she could tell her friends and if her friends were good friends they would be happy she’s pursuing her dream and  the other times she was being loyal to GILDA she ignored pinkie because she was being loyal to Gilda and all the other times she was being loyal in a different way

No hate!! Loved the vid


you guys don’t realize that they made this video 6 years ago when there wasn’t many seasons of mlp gen 4. Sure Rainbow is very loyal now, and her character development shows it, but back then she rarely displayed acts of loyalty. I do like rd a lot, but seriously no need for all this in the comments


Rainbow dash is loyal to the Mane 6 and to the wonderbolts and deserves her element


Well you do have a point that rainbow dash has troubles with her element, but that's her personality, and her well established trope of only being loyal at the last moment of the episode is there, but that's the point if it was easy she couldn't represent the element.


this video was from seven years ago, the show wasn’t over yet so idk what these comments are about 😂 obviously there were some more character changes while i still believe rainbow dash is the perfect person for her element


I get your point but it was the last season and a beautyfull ending so maybe we can just let it be


Oh well. Her element is loyalty, and if you have a problem with that, complain to the producers


It's just her personality no one's perfect just because she's made a few boos boos doesn't mean she should not have her element she's done her part HECK she's saved the world many of times!!😉


Maybe their elements are not just what they are or represent, maybe it's too what they learn, for example: Twilight didn't knew magic from born, she had to learn, in books, and school with Celestia as her teacher; Pinky Pie wasn't the same laughter pony like she is now, not until she saw that rainbow in the episode that tells how she got her cutie mark; when Applejack left Ponyville and changed her life, she wasn't honest with herself by who she really is, Fluttershy learned to not just be shy, by being kind to ponys and other creatures; or when Rarity met more than meets the eye, I mean, when she saw that generosity is worth after she saw that it's beatuy inside of almost everything; and Rainbow Dash, she won a race to protect Fluttershy's honor, that' what a loyal friend would do<br>Just because they represent those elements doesn't mean they handle those aspects easily, because sometimes it's hard to be loyal or honest, to laugh in serious situations, to be kind and generous to those who don't seem to deserve it, or use magic when it seems like it's going to disappear, and that is something they must overcome, learning from their mistakes and their victories

Maybe their elements are not just what they are or represent, maybe it's too what they learn, for example: Twilight didn't knew magic from born, she had to learn, in books, and school with Celestia as her teacher; Pinky Pie wasn't the same laughter pony like she is now, not until she saw that rainbow in the episode that tells how she got her cutie mark; when Applejack left Ponyville and changed her life, she wasn't honest with herself by who she really is, Fluttershy learned to not just be shy, by being kind to ponys and other creatures; or when Rarity met more than meets the eye, I mean, when she saw that generosity is worth after she saw that it's beatuy inside of almost everything; and Rainbow Dash, she won a race to protect Fluttershy's honor, that' what a loyal friend would do
Just because they represent those elements doesn't mean they handle those aspects easily, because sometimes it's hard to be loyal or honest, to laugh in serious situations, to be kind and generous to those who don't seem to deserve it, or use magic when it seems like it's going to disappear, and that is something they must overcome, learning from their mistakes and their victories


Yes, Ik this vid is old, but she is literally the embodiment of loyalty🌈⚡


She is loyal, to all her friends, she just has big dreams for her life and it's hard to let go of many occasions


If Bravery or Courage were elements of harmony then Rainbow would definately get one of them!


RAINBOW MOST CERTAINLY deserves her element. But she can... Mess up. But who doesn't??? That's why they kept the friendship journals

I think she deserves it, I just don't know if she deserves it more than some other people. Despite the Element of Loyalty only working for Rainbow Dash, I think it's only because she was the one who got to it before anyone else who could have. Maybe their isn't one specific person to embody an element, but a bunch of people that COHLD do it, but the first person to actually aquire it, and meets the requirements, caused the element to bring to them. I would say Spike is indeed worthy of wielding the Element Of Loyalty, in fact, if Spike got it before Rainbow Dash, I'm certain It would latch onto him, if the elements aren't pony exclusive. Spike is definitely a worthy Element of Loyalty, but it bound to Rainbow Dash first, and as such, doesn't work for anyone else.

I soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo agreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee that rainbow dash does deserve her element


I cant remember many generous Rarity moments either

@Katy Lewis
What do you mean Rarity is NEVER generous?

There is literally a whole episode in season 4 based on her generosity.
Even in the first episode, she literally cut off her TAIL to make the serpent feel better.
And Don't forget when she made the main 6 each a UNIQUE dress that took a lot of hard work to do. Even REMAKING them because her friends did not LIKE the originals.
She was disregarding her sense of fashion (Which Is her CAREER/HOBBY/PASSION) to make her friends happy.

In the episode Sweet of Elite, even tho she was more excited over the fact she was growing in popularity she still tried attending both parties instead of just outright ignoring them.

She even let Sassy Saddles stay as an employee at her boutique in Canterlot even tho Sassy was completely rude to her and basically ordering Rarity to do things she doesn't want to do. Even tho it's her shop  I quote -> "The rules of Rarity once stood for something
 But now it feels like just some factory"

Rarity is never generous. Rd is usually loyal.


Dash does deserve the element of loyalty, because with your wonderbolt statement she wanted to be with both teams and wanted to stay loyal to both, I can admit with the whole cider thing she messed up, but we learn from our mistakes, plus with the safety of ponyville she may have messed up a few times but come on, how many times have they HELPED save equestria, that technically making up for that/thise mistakes, plus with the Pinkie and Gilda thing Dash probably figured that her and Gilda should havr some way to talk things out alone and spend time together just as those two, also Spike wouldn't exactly fit the role, because I get that he is loyal but it was assigned to Dash for a pretty good reason, plus there are times that Spike does not show that much loyalty, and if anything when it comes to Spike's loyalty to Twilight it might as well be him being a push over or even a bit of a suck up, but Dash actually has bounties with said loyalty, while Spike hasn't shown many boundaries because he sometimes works to the point where he barley has anything left- as if he was a maid/slave of sorts, just a way morr privileged one, though why is it Twilight barley stops to notice that Spike may be out of energy or possibly in pain for all that he does? If that happens to him then what happens to her other friends behind the scenes? Though thats when I get to why Dash is the way she is in the first place? What triggered this "ego" or the "stubbornness"? With the ego I see it being somewhat because of her psrents but what about the stubborness? I can refer back to when she would get bullied but what about the rest of it and why it still continues? Could it possibly be thr fact that more is happening then we know? Because we always see her trying to hide her emotions, but what if the reason she does that is deeper then we think? What if everything her parents were doing started to stress her out even if her parents meamt good, and maybr she started hiding that emotion of being so overwhelmed so she wouldn't upset her parents? But not only can she get overwhelmed from that but also yhr bullying in flight school and possibly trying to just make others proud? What if thats one of the other things the ego came from, just wanting others other then her parents to feel proud to prove to herself that her parents may not be faking it? And just looking for others approval then just het parents?


Rainbow dash definitely deserves her element even though she sometimes messes up she always fixes it at the end and that’s when her loyalty really show rainbow dash isn’t like the other characters who show there element most of the time she does when she can (sorry for my run on sentences I was to lazy to punctuate ❤ MLP)


Seriously dude! I know Rainbow Dash has her flaws but they all do! Twilight is way too studious and organized which sometimes drives her crazy. Pinkie jumps to conclusions that are sometimes wrong which sometimes drives her insane. Applejack can be very stubborn at times and sometimes makes herself exhausted doing it. Fluttershy is way too shy and quiet and sometimes can't speak up for herself or perform in front of others. Rarity can be very self-centered sometimes which causes her to forget to ask what others want. See, they all have their flaws and imperfections but none of them don't deserve an element! We all have flaws and imperfections but that doesn't mean we don't deserve anything! So, next time you talk trash about someone, make sure what you're saying is true.😉


Umm... I can think of more than 2 times she showed true loyalty. When she got the offer to be in the "shadow bolts" for one, when she chose Tank over the falcon as her pet, when she almost quit wonder bolt academy for her friends and saved them from lightning dust's tornado, when she saved the students from the school of friendship from falling out of the sky, when she decided that she really did love her parents even though they were annoying, want me to go on?


Rainbow might have made wrong choices but she changed it to the right ones later on


6 years later
YouTube : you should watch this-

*6 years later*
YouTube : you should watch this-


bruh u are being to hard on her. All of the mane six have shown their ups and downs of the element. The reason why the writers made rainbow dash more self-entitled of herself is so she has more ways to show off her loyalty, y'all need to stop hating on rainbow cause all the other main 6 have been through the same as rainbow.


I mean if they all always played their elements part then the show would be short. Also spike is a baby dragon that hangs with ponies. The dragons would bully him , in fact I think there was an episode like that when he went to live with dragons. Also AppleJack is 'honesty' but there are times when she isn't so honest. All of the mane 6 doesn't always live up to their element. They are regular ponies just like we would say we are regular humans. Their gonna make mistakes but lots of times when it came down to it even when you think you can't rely on her Rainbow has pulled through.


But honestly, Rainbow Dash is awesome! Sometimes she has trouble but she makes the right desisions in the end. Plus a lot of the time her friends are fighting with each other. Who should she choose then?


She stills deserves a little of the loyalty element


Rainbow Dash is very loyal. you have missed quite a lot of times when she is loyal.
rainbow dash isn't perfect.
you are being way too hard on Rainbow Dash


To me, Rainbow dash should have confidence element over loyalty

Except confidence isn't an element of friendship. Each element is based off characteristics you should portray with your friends. It would be like saying Twilight should the the element of knowledge instead of magic.


Pay attention with the spike loyalty thing, when twilight tries to use the elements the ponies elements activate (sort of...) but spike and the element of loyalty DON'T DO ANYTHING! My point is that it appears that only ponies (and humans but since they didn't actually have the elements except magic i don't really count it) can use the elements.<br>Also dont be harsh to RD because most of the times she wasn't "being loyal" was just because of her character flaw, her pride and self competence.

Pay attention with the spike loyalty thing, when twilight tries to use the elements the ponies elements activate (sort of...) but spike and the element of loyalty DON'T DO ANYTHING! My point is that it appears that only ponies (and humans but since they didn't actually have the elements except magic i don't really count it) can use the elements.
Also dont be harsh to RD because most of the times she wasn't "being loyal" was just because of her character flaw, her pride and self competence.

@Sweetdash Yeah, Its weird I guess we both have good taste in videos then.

Its so creepy we watch all the same things XD

Also, bing loyal is easy for Spike, since he relies heavily on his friends--and has very few of them. and if its easy, it doesn't count as a real quality.

@MidnightMelody Well it is My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic after all plus her element is called magic but is more like friendship considering she is the princess of friendship not magic and when discord was trying to take over and everypony became the oposite of their element Twilight was no longer wanted to be their friend, she didnt start using dark magic since that would be the opposite of regular magic.

+<b>QuietTiger</b> Exactly! Spike's element all the way! I completely agree on the princesses thing! Its not fair and Twilight is getting all the attention. Since when is magic part of friendship anyway, and if her element is the Magic of Friendship in general doesn't that mean you could take out the other 5 and just have Twilight?! I just feel strongly on the subject, I HATE Twilight and basically think she's an attention loving, sappy idiot who actually comes off as a Mary Sue sometimes. But yes, you make awesome points!

+*QuietTiger* Exactly! Spike's element all the way! I completely agree on the princesses thing! Its not fair and Twilight is getting all the attention. Since when is magic part of friendship anyway, and if her element is the Magic of Friendship in general doesn't that mean you could take out the other 5 and just have Twilight?! I just feel strongly on the subject, I HATE Twilight and basically think she's an attention loving, sappy idiot who actually comes off as a Mary Sue sometimes. But yes, you make awesome points!

@Stephanie Punton fine, fine, i see your point. i agree though, she should hav just stayed a unicorn.

@Rainbow Dash It is a bit easier to do some things with magic but they can still be done without it!

Ummmm egghead alicorns!!!!!  Cus since when did pegasus from cloudsdale such as me need sappy unicorn magic

@Jenny Marie I know, but I wouldn't go so far as to call her a Mary Sue, but the other's flaws stand out so much clearer which really bugs me! I don't think she should have become an alicorn, never mind an alicorn princess, but at least it gives some twists to the plot that couldn't have been managed otherwise.

@QuietTiger yeah! less twilight!!!!!!!!!!!! we have heard enough of "princess this, magic that." and, "hey guys did u relize im a magical princess who knows everything about friendship but u dont because u have character flaws!"

I agree  I mean R D can activate the element  and spike couldn't so it just makes sense

@QuietTiger Wow i never thought of the magic tree idea, that sounds soo cool! I do have a problem with spikes element though. When spike was given the element of loyalty in Return of Harmony all the other elements lit up and lifted the ponies off the ground even though they no longer had the qualities of their elements. The element of Loyalty and spike did nothing witch implies only ponies can use the elements. <br>And yes i totally agree main 6 princesses! Twilight is such a show stealer now! They even came up with Flash Sentry who is totally awesome (and way more like someone RD would like) for twilight to fall in love with!

@QuietTiger Wow i never thought of the magic tree idea, that sounds soo cool! I do have a problem with spikes element though. When spike was given the element of loyalty in Return of Harmony all the other elements lit up and lifted the ponies off the ground even though they no longer had the qualities of their elements. The element of Loyalty and spike did nothing witch implies only ponies can use the elements.
And yes i totally agree main 6 princesses! Twilight is such a show stealer now! They even came up with Flash Sentry who is totally awesome (and way more like someone RD would like) for twilight to fall in love with!

@Eric Arrington yes spike should be the element of selflessness  which if they  did make an episode of this it could be a nod to spikes crush on rarity  and how their elements are similar and yet very different. Some other things that I think should be changed... twilights palace should look similar to her old house but have a trunk made of magical wood and insted of leafs have crystal flowers that each represent an individual pony and bloom when they complete their destiny. there should also be magic energy connecting everyone to the people they care about. Next all of the main six should be princesses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the show is no longer about the main six, it about TWILIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this has made it so I am enjoying the a lot less and its just plain ANNOYING!!!!!!!! this is a show about Friendship people!!!!! come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@alice101 I agree. Do you guys think there should be a 7th element? Let me know.

@***** I see what he is saying but when the time comes rainbow dash pulls though


I would half to say for Rainbow Dash sometimes she looses focus on why she wanted to do these things so she needs friends to keep her on track and without them she wouldn't of a had stayed with ponyvill or with her friends (especially Twilight) so if you think about it the smallest things matter that may not seem big throughout the seasons 😁


She does so deserve her element. In the episode Daring Don't she proved how loyal she was to Daring Do by rushing to her rescue along with her other friends.


I know that's what most people think
But Rainbow should be the element of honesty and Applejack the element of loyalty

But
I do like the idea of Spike being the element of loyalty
Then Rainbow could be honesty and Applejack could have a new element
I think a element of liability would suit her very well
And it sure is an important part of a friendship


If you think about it, Rainbow Dash deserves the element of Magic. If it weren't for her, none of the mane 6 would have met, and nothing that happened would have happened.


In the episode, where Twilight gets her wings, Princess Celestia talks to Twilight's friends. In the German version, she calls Applejack Loyal and Rainbow Dash Honest. <br>Also in my opinion Rainbow should be the element of honesty!!

In the episode, where Twilight gets her wings, Princess Celestia talks to Twilight's friends. In the German version, she calls Applejack Loyal and Rainbow Dash Honest.
Also in my opinion Rainbow should be the element of honesty!!


I think rainbow does deserve her element. Loyalty does not come naturally. It can be hard to realize what you should actually do. Like, rainbow falls for example, rainbow tried to choose both at first, doing stuff with the wonderbolts, but also ponyville. It was hard to choose. But in the end, she chose her friends.


Let me tell you something I come from seven years in the future and she has become a lot more loyal in the next few seasons in my opinion


Rainbow dash does deserve her element. When twilight needs to fight villains Rainbow could have just walk away and said "I'm out of here I am not going to fight some villain till I die".


I disagree.

(All of these are referencing the episode where Starlight and twilight fight with the time travel magic)

In the sombra timeline, we see Rainbow dash fighting against the crystal empire, and even after almost being crushed by a rock and almost dying, she still continues fighting. Maybe this one’s more bravery then loyalty, but I think anyone would be having second thoughts.

In the nightmare moon timeline, she was the first, and only, pony to speak up when twilight didn’t respond- she may not have been on the same side- but that’s loyalty.

Maybe i’m overthinking things. That’s possible too.


Sometimes being loyal also means being honest


When I first clicked on this video I was livid at the title but you made some pretty good points and I mean Rainbow Dash is loyal but she is hesitant to do so and she is more brutally honest then loyal


1:14 actually rainbow dash really wanted to be with wonderbolts but then she chose her friends so the episode actually shows how hard it was for rainbow dash to not fly with the wonderbolts and have to do it with her friends. It is hard since she always wanted to be a wonderbolt or fly with them and her friends, she can hang out with them whenever they want to that's why


hi i’m back again anyway,<br>loyalty is when you have a hard choice where one you abandon your friends while the other you stay true to them. i think that rainbow embodies the element perfectly. time and time again we see her wanting something and she almost always abandons her friends for it. however, she always comes back to her senses. true loyalty is being there when your friends need you most.

hi i’m back again anyway,
loyalty is when you have a hard choice where one you abandon your friends while the other you stay true to them. i think that rainbow embodies the element perfectly. time and time again we see her wanting something and she almost always abandons her friends for it. however, she always comes back to her senses. true loyalty is being there when your friends need you most.


Rainbow dash actually represent every loyalty and every episode you just miss that😐😐


And this is why the "We're not perfect, we're a work in progress" song exist

I literally love RD so much, and she is loyal. Rd got one of the hardest elements too, giving up her dreams for her friends... That's loyal as hell


But rainbowdash is also loyal to her believes and passions wich in a way could be loyalty towards herself I know this sounds awfully weird but being loyal means staying with your friends but it doesn't mean giving up your self or believes. It's not loyal to change yourself for others that's whimpy and lazy and makes you a follower.<br>On the other hand saying the truth an being rude is different from each other. So maybe that's the subtle intention they where going for

But rainbowdash is also loyal to her believes and passions wich in a way could be loyalty towards herself I know this sounds awfully weird but being loyal means staying with your friends but it doesn't mean giving up your self or believes. It's not loyal to change yourself for others that's whimpy and lazy and makes you a follower.
On the other hand saying the truth an being rude is different from each other. So maybe that's the subtle intention they where going for


The fact that Spike was almost ignored as part of the team is so unfair.


She more than deserves her element one way or another no one is perfect in everything right


Saw this might be very late but in Griffon the brush off she stayed with her friends she could have went with Gilda but she didn't do that ,she deserves to be the element of loyalty

Oh and in the rainbow falls she chose her friends ok mister.as loyalty she tried to maintain it but she could not.she could have went with the wondebolts but she chose ponyville


Just remember every character has it's own flaws and rd's flaw is her ego and that makes a character arc in some way...


in those times with rainbow not being loyal those were in older seasons and at that point they were still learning the magic of friendship and their element


Rainbow dash is sporty, but she shows loyalty in ways that are so hidden nobody notices.


She is very loyal and has done many acts of loyalty.

@LkDem or 3 examples I men’s how many kayak things has she really done

Yes.<br>I am going to stop watching this channel.

Yes.
I am going to stop watching this channel.

Katy Lewis is right rainbow dash did show loyalty to her friends

Sometimes she also need to learn her lesson to choose between the wonderbolts and ponyville,learning a lesson is part in Friendship

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@• Azümie • This aint the time for roleplaying, kid.

@Katy Lewis rainbow dash is a pony which is equivilent to humans not a dog.

Melissa Smith well, in wonderbolts academy, she chose her friends over her dream job, that’s being loyal, when she chose a new friend (pinkie) over her old friend (Gilda) that’s also being loyal.

@Katy Lewis Wtf does that have to do with loyalty? That's one of the dumbest things about this show.

Well, your kinda right in that spike is loyal and in that clip where twilight gave him the element

SoggyCereal oh and also, if it wasn’t for her sonic rainboom, the other 5 wouldn’t of got their cutie mark.

SoggyCereal well she is loyalty. 1: in season one, she chose her friends over shadow bolts. 2: when she found out gilda was mean, she stood up for her other friends. 3: in a episode she chose to be on the losing team (her friends) over the winning team. 4: in sleepless ponyville episode, she saved scootaloo, and same for the episode the washouts. She might not always be loyalty,<br>But it’s like rarity, she is not always generous.

SoggyCereal well she is loyalty. 1: in season one, she chose her friends over shadow bolts. 2: when she found out gilda was mean, she stood up for her other friends. 3: in a episode she chose to be on the losing team (her friends) over the winning team. 4: in sleepless ponyville episode, she saved scootaloo, and same for the episode the washouts. She might not always be loyalty,
But it’s like rarity, she is not always generous.

The Dazzlings You Just Pretend Your Lavenderandfire And your Being Nice to Rainbow Dash I thought your Evil Mean Bad Jealous a teaser a Lyer Well Dazzlings Ready to give up Friendship More Powerfull Then evil!!!


I think it fits perfectly and all of the mane six deserve it.

however, rarity and applejack...


My man needs more recognition for this .


Loyalty means to be there for the ones that means the most to you.


Rainbow dash should have gotten the element of determination since she never usually gives up


2:25 Look closely at Pinkie's eye, the artists were a little messy with the eyelid


I think Rainbow Dash and Applejack SHOULD have their elements switched. Rainbow is BRUTALLY honest and Applejack has a LOT of responsibilities and yet STILL makes time for her friends and her family.


I mean, she is one of my favourite characters, so please don't hate on her


In the episode with Gilda Rainbow Dash shoes loyalty to Pinky Piy by standing up for her even if it meant she had to give up her friendship with Gilda

What proves it is when she doesn't hesitate to give up her <b>childhood friendship</b> with Gilda for the sake of her friends in Ponyville.

What proves it is when she doesn't hesitate to give up her *childhood friendship* with Gilda for the sake of her friends in Ponyville.

@The Artsonist How long has dash not seen or met up with Gilda? She spends so many times with her friends, so why not one day with a good friend? I swear, I wouldn't want to hang out with one person every single second of the day...

Yeah that's a great point. Rainbow Dash's character is actually mostly fine in season 1. The writing is consistent, and she's quite likeable. It's when the show goes on that her character gets confusing at times. I think that might be because of different writers tho.

well, she ignored pinkie for the WHOLE EPISODE before that.

@Dena Warren  right but she does deserve it


You can look at that one wpisode with Pinkie and that Yakyakistan instrument and you'll see that Dash is first one to tell Pinkie while the others pass it on to someone else. And I think the writers had a hard time understanding or even explaining loyalty in an episode.


RD has def earned her element more than enough times


Rainbow dash wanted to hang out with Gilda and pinkie pie, just Gilda doesn’t want to hang out with pinkie. She drank the cider since she never had any cider ever ever. And I kinda agree with you but Rainbow dash still deserves her element


You have a legitimate point. Though, after this video was made, rainbow Dash has demonstrated her element more. We must remember she is very prideful and perhaps this makes it especially hard for her to keep to her Element. Maybe she is different in that she still has a long way to go to earn her element, unlike the others.

In the episode with the Griffin kingdom, Rainbow Dash taught Gilda to be loyal to her fellow Griffins, and ultimately mended their relationship.

When Rainbow and Fluttershy were fillies in Cloudsdale, Rainbow Dash was ALWAYS sticking up for Flutters even though she could have decided to make fun of her friend as well, like Babs Seed did when she was teased by Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon for her lack of a cutie mark. Perhaps RD was born with this trair of loyalty, and her love of power corrupted this. After Fluttershy fell out of Cloudsdale and started living in Ponyville, Rainbow Dash might have met Gilda, and a friendship based on competition rather than loyalty had been formed. Thus, Rainbow has been out of practice, and has had much time to grow her ego. Competition replaced loyalty for her for a long time.

As with villians, they don't often start out evil, but are driven to it, and chose to react to their pain or desires in the wrong way, thus corrupting their hearts. But if open to change, they can become reborn. I believe Rainbow Dash started out loyal, but after Fluttershy disappeared (which may be considered by RD an act of disloyalty), and she got her cutie mar, her ego grew, and was fueled in her "friendship" with Gilda. Thus she became a little corrupted, though not to the extent of a villian, and has been working on being who she is supposed to be. The Shadowbolts may simbolize the fact that full corruption is never far, and Rainbow Dash always struggles against her egotistical impulses. Villian get power how ever they can, and Shadowbolts are another way other than the Wonderbolts for her to be the pony she wants to be. But she realizes that it isn't worth it, because power cannot replace frienship, and thus she can never be truly happy following that darker path.


She's the best pony to represent loyalty.That's why she left the wonderbolts.


No pony is perfect. Not even the embodiments of the six elements. They all make mistakes. If they don't, they don't learn and become better than they are now


Loyalty isn't only being loyal to others but also to yourself


Why hold rainbow in a different light than Applejack? Appledash's honesty gets tested too, and all rainbow's situations reflect that. Just like fluttershy's kindness is tested, rarity's generosity is tested, and... Well pinkie is the only one who (HAS A FRIENDSHIP ELEMENT) and is hardly tested.<br>Twi's magic is tested but that's not really an aspect of friendship.

Why hold rainbow in a different light than Applejack? Appledash's honesty gets tested too, and all rainbow's situations reflect that. Just like fluttershy's kindness is tested, rarity's generosity is tested, and... Well pinkie is the only one who (HAS A FRIENDSHIP ELEMENT) and is hardly tested.
Twi's magic is tested but that's not really an aspect of friendship.


I think all of them are loyal to each other (except in some episodes) and i think all of them are generous too as much as rarity


She has proved that she is the loyalest pony👍


You don't have to ALWAYS be in the scenario of choosing good against bad to prove your loyalty. Otherwise in the real world, we would probably never get the chance!


Yo… this was made 7 years ago when RD’s personality building wasn’t around, unlike the later seasons. So it is still a valid argument that she wasn’t loyal during the first few seasons.


She deserve her element, nyall are just mean 😪👊


Rainbows dash is loyal !! Honestly honesty and loyalty r 2 diff things loyalty is abt sticking up with what I want so there is no doubt rainbow dash sticks to her friends side boy matter what . Sometimes she messes up but who doesn't?


I think Rainbow Dash deserves her element a lot🌈 She is always loyal to her friends


I never really felt like rarity was much generous


your right about rainbow dash but....spike cant have an element I mean he is a dragon and only pony's have have an element of harmony good theory tho.


I disagree. Even aside from the two-parters, where ALL of the mane 6 demonstrate their best qualities, Rainbow has proved herself a loyal friend.

Some of these arguments are stronger than others, and I realize it's all subjective, so keep in mind this is just how I see things. And, I have to admit before I start, I am a Rainbow Dash fan (which doesn't mean I think she's the most awesome, perfect thing to ever grace Hasbro's toyline; in fact, just the opposite ((I really love seeing Dash presented as this complex, sort of Byronic hero, who makes slow progress toward growing as an individual, but I could go on about THAT for far too long))).

In "Griffon the Brush Off," Gilda was introduced as Dash's best friend from when they went to school together. Though we don't know just how often they came in contact with each other over the years, or stayed in touch with letters, we know Dash wasn't choosing between being loyal to a friend, and hanging out with someone who she deems "cooler." She was choosing between two friends (and she chose the one she's known the longest).

"May the Best Pet Win!" may seem like a strike against Dash, in that she doesn't really know what to look for in making friends (or, in this case pets) at the outset. But, I would argue the viewer knows the outcome is inevitable, because what really matters to Rainbow, when it comes down to it, is determination and loyalty.

"The Last Roundup" provides another subtle example of her values. It's true that Dash is always the most outspoken of the mane 6 (for better or for worse), but here, it's more meaningful. She's the one to call AJ out on leaving (just Applejack demonstrated her Element in the example given in the video ((Maud Pie))). To me at least, that shows she knows loyalty has to be a two-way street.

"Read and It and Weep" shows loyalty to a fault: bias. Applejack is indeed stubborn beyond all reason, but Dash has her moments too, and in this case, it's based on a belief she's held for a long time. It's obviously not an ideal manifestation of loyalty, but an important one to show her overcoming.

Then, of course, "Wonderbolts Academy," but that's already been touched on.

"Rainbow Falls" is basically the Shadowbolt conflict extended to twenty-two minutes, which is unfortunate, because there was potential for a much better story. Not only should it have been about pitting her dreams of being a Wonderbolt with staying true to her commitment to her friends, it could've been about choosing between two impossible choices: Cloudsdale and Ponyville. While we the viewer would immediately say Ponyville is right choice, it wouldn't really be that clear cut. We've spent the most time with Ponyville, and we know and love the friends Dash has made during her time there, but there's also a history we're not privy, too. If, say her dad wanted her to fly for Cloudsdale with the Wonderbolts, it would've put this conflict in perspective. Her heritage & childhood v.s. her adult life and best friends. Now THAT'S the conflict I wanted to see as a RD fan; one that's hard and takes real character. It's shame we got what we got on that one.

Again, for the record, I could babble on and on about how Dash has grown as a character, but that's not my point here. I think if nothing else, RD /is/ a loyal friend. Yes, she's very insensitive and even rude, but that doesn't make her somehow un-loyal (to some, it means she's obnoxious, and I'm sorry you have to suffer watching it if you feel that way). I think loyalty, more than any other Element, demands dramatic displays of sacrifice, or at least the willingness to. Maybe it really doesn't happen all that often, but it's the moments when it really matters that Dash pulls through.


When She Gives Up On Ponyville She Goes Back Too Ponyville Cause She Understands That Being Loyal Is More Important Then Winning With The Wonderbolts


on a somewhat unrelated note I dont think rarity deserves her element  much because she is only generous to her friends with outfits mainly and isnt generous, and she only starts to do that more once she opensup a boutique,!


Fans are a bit hard on Rainbow. On the other hand her ego often gets in the way of her element. Much like Rarity actually.


I kinda agree... I'm watching mlp for the second time now and some things just don't sit right


Rainbow IS AWESOME AND I MEAN IT SHE DESERVES IT


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nah rainbow dash generous? thats something u dont hear everyday...yes she might not act loyal always but she does do a lot for her friends even if it doesnt seem like it if apple jack was the element of loyalty how would she been able to save her friends in the sonic rainboom episode we all know rainbow dash fits the part and no one else can say anything about it because im right imagne spike taking rainbow dashs place?yeah no.


She is the perfect representation of loyalty. First of all rainbow was loyal to pinky, its just been a long time since she saw Gildas and she wanted to spent time with her because she will leave soon but pink will always be present and one more point being with Gilda would make her look cool and awesome something she always wanted but she proudly said in front of everyone that she didn't want to be Gildas friend if she is soo rude to her new friends without shame. If u ask me there is nothing more loyal than that. When she chose her friends over her biggest dream 2 times we can prove that she is utmost loyal.


She IS loyal because in the end she always stands up for what SHE thinks is right even if it takes her a while to figure out what that is or if it isn’t what others think is right. In other words she loyal to her morals not those around her.


both Rainbow and Rarity don't have much in terms of showing their elements, and actually fails to show them in some cases. However, when they do show their element its on a completely different level then what we would expect. mostly, because loyalty and generosity can be viewed in many ways. so both Rainbow and Rarity probably do fit there element to a key just not the way we would expect it. This is just my thoughts feel free to disagree.(BTW Rainbow is best pony :P)

Nothing is perfect and the show perpesly gave apple jack flaws shes not the "perfect pony" that you say.

@Jeff The Killer I would disagree they may border being a mary sue (twilight, fluttershy, and Applejack)  but each of the mane 6 have flaws in there personality they just aren't shown often.

@MidnightMelody Naw, Twilight has character flaws.... the pony with no flaws is Applejack, that's why she is almost never used, they gave her like two issues and fixed them during season 1.... she is basically a background character. But the rest of what you said is totally true

+*Jeff The Killer * (great user btw) I agree! Twilight is pretty dull, but maybe that's cuz she's Little Miss Perfect Who Doesn't Have Any Goddamn Character Flaws. If they just always showed their element the friendship would be perfect and there would be no conflict at all. My favorite part of this show is how real the characters are (except Twilight and Fluttershy, hate them, they're just too good), raw and true. A lot of times, Dashie's pride and slight selfishness make her seem disloyal and Rarity's slightly materialistic personality can seem selfish. They struggle with being their best, just like people, but they will always pull through in the end. People should really stop being so hard on them for not always being little Mary Sue's.

Here's the thing though, if they showed it all the time, they would be very stale one-dimensional characters.... if they show a trait sometimes (say generosity) but also struggle with that trait at times (just like humans do) it makes for a very realistic and believable character.... as for those who say that Rarity isn't generous enough, think about this: She is the most successful of the mane 6, the only one to own and run their own business. And as we see in "Sweet and Elite" she is easily able to be VERY successful if she were to move to Canterlot, yet she chooses to stay in Ponyville for her friends.... she gives up huge success for their sake, if that isn't generous, nothing is!


I think you are being too harsh. Rainbow Dash sticks up for her friends and I think she is the perfect match for her element.


I think, that Rainbow represents more corage, like flash magnus, and Applejack represents strengh


Loyalty doesnt always have to be towards your friend. Rainbow dash deserves her element and so does applejack. Stop being so hard on her >:(


I think rainbow dash should be the element of bravery.


Yes i think your being to hard. They arent all perfect! Twilight was just starting friendship so Rainbowdash is probably learning to be loyal. Twilight seemed kind of nasty in season 1 compared to her now. You'll notice they are all a lot better in later seasons.

@DifferentBreed how are they the hardest though? It's very hard to be kind for some people, and for others it's hard to be generous. For some (like me) the whole "friendship" part of friendship is hard. The different elements are harder or easier for different people, imo it's not possible to label any of the elements as harder or easier because it will be different for everyone. My point is, has been, and always will be that each of the mane 6's elements should come naturally to them, every day in every moment, they should personify their element. And AJ and RD just don't, in my opinion.they only really flex their element when it's being tested by the plot and it's like the creators go "oh, yeah, that's their element we should have them do something that is really sacrificial so they stay in character"

If they were written differently, I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's still a good show, and this is (almost) the only misgiving I have about it. But again, almost off of what I said is my opinion. You're entitled to yours. I'm entitled to mine. And I mean really it's kind of a dumb thing to argue about honestly but I don't have anything better to do

@Saleen Sundria RainbowDash and AppleJack has the hardest elements tho

You do know this vid is out of date right?

@Saleen Sundria mentality. They all have mentality disorders. If you look at it in a more mature light. Think about all of them individually. Not just their elements but them their selves.

Okay rlly Rd is PERFECT for her element. Yes she had trouble along the way, but that’s bc no ones perfect! Time after time, you see her offered things she’s worked hard for, like the wonderbolts and deserves but she turns it down for her friends. At times she struggles on choosing but if you think about it all of the pony’s do from time to time, for example, when Rarity and the gang went to Mane-hatten, at first Rarity was so stressed out she was rlly rude to them, but after she realized her mistake after she thought they had left and ultimately gave up her winning shot at the fashion contest for them. So rlly I can’t see anyone else being the element of Loyalty, well except maybe Spike (heh reference to the discord part 1 and part 2 episodes) <br>And tbh Rainbow and Rarity we’re always s my favoritez

Okay rlly Rd is PERFECT for her element. Yes she had trouble along the way, but that’s bc no ones perfect! Time after time, you see her offered things she’s worked hard for, like the wonderbolts and deserves but she turns it down for her friends. At times she struggles on choosing but if you think about it all of the pony’s do from time to time, for example, when Rarity and the gang went to Mane-hatten, at first Rarity was so stressed out she was rlly rude to them, but after she realized her mistake after she thought they had left and ultimately gave up her winning shot at the fashion contest for them. So rlly I can’t see anyone else being the element of Loyalty, well except maybe Spike (heh reference to the discord part 1 and part 2 episodes)
And tbh Rainbow and Rarity we’re always s my favoritez

@Envisioned Abilities What do you mean no one talks about that any more...and you seriously don't remember Rarity's name?

@Jessie_writes I wasn't really talking about you'r comment, since I actully agree, some elements in freind ship are more black and white as you put it, being kind to you'r freinds, sharing some things, and such, but honestly and loyalty are more, Don't know how to word this, gradient? Honesty can be hurtfull somethings.  Discorging you'r freinds / And loyalty, imagine if you have to pick you'r freinds or you'r family,  the people who rasied you over thepeople you enjoy spending time with.  It would be hard to choose in my opinion.

@Wolfinityy come on, lets me honest,  who talks about that anymore lol

( I'ma assume thats the ep where twilight gave whiTe poNY wiTh pUrlPe HaIr wings right? )

@Envisioned Abilities ok then how about LITERally Season 1 where she saves rarity even tho she was being inconsiderate to rainbow? Thats loyalty right there

@Envisioned Abilities I didn't say any episode references that would show her loyalty here I just gave a basic description of how certain elements are more black and white then others. especially honesty and loyalty. those have a certain level that they should be expressed or there is consequences

This was had four years ago when you commented, meaning that there was limited episodes where she showed her loyalty

@Jessie_writes I was Gonna comment dis Yeeeeee 100% agree

Saleen Sundria I agree with you on some things but with the only applejack and rainbow dash having problems with their elements it’s a bit different. It’s easy to say you need to be kind to people and it’s easy to know to make people laugh but when it comes to being honest that can be harder sometimes cause you don’t want to hurt somebody which is why she has trouble, and being loyal and giving up something you really want for others is hard. It’s not easy. Plus if applejack was always honest she would hurt a lot of people and get a lot of people angry with her, and same with rainbow dash if she was too loyal she would become a doormat because being loyal doesn’t mean all the time it just means when it counts.

Twilight WAS nasty in the first season, but is kindness her element? No, it's magic! And she'd exceptionally amazing at it. Fluttershy is exceptionally kind, its her first thought before anything else. Rarity is generous, perhaps not with posessions, but most definitely with actions. Pinkie is obvious, she laughs all the time and makes everyone else around her laugh. She brings a new meaning to "infectious laughter"

It's just Applejack and Rainbow Dash that.... don't completely embody their elements. They have to seriously consider/have trouble (occasionally) fulfilling what their "element" is supposed to be, suggesting that they're not "in their element".

Sorry for bringing this back from the dead after like a year


Rainbow dash has chosen other people before her friends but in the end she always do what is right


Nobody’s talking about this...
But I’m just really impressed with Spike he counted every single blade of grass! (24,567,837)
I can’t even count to that number!

Nobody’s talking about this...
But I’m just really impressed with Spike he counted *every single* blade of grass! (24,567,837)
I can’t even count to that number!


I have seen a time where the main six have not used there element meaning.

- Putting your hoof down, Fluttershy was not kind

- Rarity takes Main Hatton, Rarity was not generous

-The last Roundup, Apple Jack was not honest

-Apple buck season, Apple Jack was not honest that she needed help

-Lesson Zero, Twillight was not magical or smart

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In the episode with Gilda, she could have also been showing loyalty to someone else, Gilda. They've been friends longer than Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash and hadn't seen each other in a while so she may have been showing loyalty to Gilda. But no matter what, she's loyal to her friends when it's crucial, maybe not so much the little things because, honestly, who can be 100% loyal 100% of the time to their friends.


The thing is, none of them are perfect, as per real life. Even if there is a value one holds dear, certain situations are going to occur that challenge those ideas. Rainbow Dash really loves her friends and is loyal where is counts. I mean, she didn't count the blades of grass like Spike did (I mean, most people, even the most lot wouldn't do something that detailed). And in the episode with Gilda, I don't think she was intentionally trying to keep Pinkie Pie out. How many of us when a friend comes to visit spend exclusive time with them? They were Childhood friends and hadn't seen one another in a while. That doesn't mean Rainbow Dash isn't loyal to her other friends. I mean, she did come through at the end of the episode and told Gilda off. With something you are good at, or favor, challenges will come in. All of the mane 6 faced these challenges in regard to the element/value favored.


And Rairity is literally the MOST selfish out of ALL of EQUESTRIA

Yes of course. The element of <b>generosity</b> is much more selfish than Cozy Glow, Tirek, Sombra, Discord (before reformed), Nightmare Moon, Daybreaker, Storm King, Tempest, The Dazzlings, Sunset Shimmer (before reformed), Principal Cinch, Trixie (before reformed), Flim and Flam, Diamond Tiara (before reformed), Silver Spoon (did she even get reformed?), Iron Will, Gilda (before reformed ig), Lightning Dust, Maneiac, Cabellaron (misspelled probably), Diamond Dogs, that one Prince Charming from The Best Night Ever, Suri, Svengallop, Gladmane, the real Grogar, Wind Rider, Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy’s bullies, Sludge, Ahuizotl (i think he got reformed i forgot tbh) , Babs Seed (before reformed), Garble (before reformed), Juniper Montage, and Vignette Valencia. Definitely incredibly selfish and deserves to go to tartarus.

Yes of course. The element of *generosity* is much more selfish than Cozy Glow, Tirek, Sombra, Discord (before reformed), Nightmare Moon, Daybreaker, Storm King, Tempest, The Dazzlings, Sunset Shimmer (before reformed), Principal Cinch, Trixie (before reformed), Flim and Flam, Diamond Tiara (before reformed), Silver Spoon (did she even get reformed?), Iron Will, Gilda (before reformed ig), Lightning Dust, Maneiac, Cabellaron (misspelled probably), Diamond Dogs, that one Prince Charming from The Best Night Ever, Suri, Svengallop, Gladmane, the real Grogar, Wind Rider, Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy’s bullies, Sludge, Ahuizotl (i think he got reformed i forgot tbh) , Babs Seed (before reformed), Garble (before reformed), Juniper Montage, and Vignette Valencia. Definitely incredibly selfish and deserves to go to tartarus.

@Reactingwithcase i  comment that 3 months ago move on 😑 just a show anyway

@l you said exactly you mean the person is right

@l in the first episode she literally gave the sea monster her tail that is not selfish 😑

She isn’t guys her element is generosity that’s giving is that selfish? No  she isn’t the most selfish pony

@Reactingwithcase never said she was selfish she just thinks about fashion when something is wrong.

@l her element is generosity she’s giving that’s not selfish she’s not the most selfish pony

@Reactingwithcase she still thinks about fashion when something bad happens

@l but on a episode she realized her mistake like everyone said everyone makes mistakes when she realized her key of generosity

EXACTLY WHEN SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS SHE REALLY THINKS ITS TIME FOR FASHION

Ik and people think Rainbow Dash is a bad character 😭


Ponies can make mistakes...And she also has her own choices she cant always be like a slave to her friends.She has shown true loyalty more than......I don't know as long as we can remember.And I honestly think she deserves her element🤔😁


For all of u saying “guys the video is outdated” yeah it is but he also said “I would like to see what u guys think about this if I’m being to hard on dashie or not” tbh I felt like he was being a bit harsh because she does deserve her element I mean she still has flaws


In hurricane Fluttershy, she always believes in her. Later on, she gives all the praise to Fluttershy. That’s all in one episode! Pretty damn loyal tbh

Yeah rd is loyal, besides she did say that fluttershy didn’t have to do it.. and when she found out Gilda was a bully she stood out to the mane 5 (her friends)


None of these are true tests of loyalty.  Just because she's loyal to Gilda by giving her her time (especially seeing as Gilda's home country is an awful place to live) doesn't mean she's being disloyal to Pinkie by not spending every second of the day with her.  Just because she complains that Fluttershy is too weak to go after a dragon doesn't mean she's disloyal, in fact, the fact that she's gone up on this trip and is putting up with it and even trying to protect Fluttershy by sending her home is loyalty.  In the cases where she was truly tested, where there were real stakes in whether or not she did the right thing for the ponies she cares about, she's been pretty steadfast.

But in the end, is Loyalty REALLY a great virtue?  I mean, if your friends turn out to be evil, and you're loyal to evil, are you still the good guy for being evil?

@insomnianimations actually no she wasnt, she was just following Gilda. If your childhood best friend visited you would do everything with them when they are there. she wasn't avoiding pinkie, its just Gilda was taking dash places where Pinkie couldn't go without using her "creative" ways.

@Untrustful Potato, imagine that Pinkie, Flutters, Twilight, Applejack, and Rarity all turned bad! Rainbow is loyal to her friends, which are bad now. He is saying that is Rainbow a good guy for staying with his BAD FRIENDS?!

Yusuf Bui  SHE IS NOT WRONG UR HEARTLESS

Yusuf Bui  SHE IS NOT WRONG UR HEARTLESS

@insomnianimations people want alone time every now and then and it wasn't like Pinkie had a dire situation she had problems with.

She wasn't trying to protect Fluttershy. She was fed up with Fluttershy.

its moonlight how are they wrong did you do a full investigation or do you just want attention

@its moonlight and @Hamza Bui, they might be wrong, might not, but until you give an adequate rebuttal, I'm afraid that they are the one who's correct. This is simply because something that you can't give any evidence that isn't literally what they just rebuttaled, then you have no founding and are deemed incorrect until you can find another way to say it. I don't get Internet people, just saying that they're wrong doesn't automatically make them wrong.

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG 10000000000%WRONG!!!

@Terri Beaudoin oh right<br>rainbow was too a little though

@Terri Beaudoin oh right
rainbow was too a little though

@insomnianimations actually that was gilda

I,m confused don't see when she sent her home

well rainbow was literally trying to avoid pinkie at all costs


In season one, AppleJack literally says she is the most loyal pony lmao


For the people who are disagreeing/hating on him please remember that this was made in 2014


I love Rainbow in all but your right. I feel like Rainbow should ALSO be the element of Loyalty and share it with Apple?


I know that rainbow dash will be always loyal to her friends and she will never betray them


I know everyone is saying that she does deserve her element but I honestly don't think so


Rainbow dash deserve the element of honesty I love rainbow dash is my favourite pony and also starlight


ngl you are 100% right. SPIKE AS NEW LOYALTY ELEMENT


Rainbow Dash is one of those ponies when their still learning and thinking on what she wants her destiny to be. Yes, she has a cutie mark, but does that really mean her full destiny? She can do anything that doesn't do anything with her cutie mark, can she not? Maybe she's getting used to this whole loyalty thing..m even though it's been 8 seasons.


I know this is like 7 years ago and we already have a new generation but the amounts of the dislikes on this video is sheeesh


Look, I like rainbow, and have nothing against AJ, but there are times where Rainbow isn't loyal but she is honest, and times AJ was dishonest but loyal.


Hey there is one more time that Rainbow Dash displayed her element of harmony. It was when she choose to stay with Fluttershy after Fluttershy fell to the ground... although as I am more than likely watching this episode late so you probably already know this.


i mean yea she isn't really loyal at first but time after time she always goes back to her friends, (telling the truth and realizing her mistakes as said in the video). my pov is kinda she may be more like telling the truth and realizing her mistakes, but in the end, it makes her loyal to her friends (in short saying she may be kind of both but the writers decided to put her for loyalty). I didn't even realize this until I watched this video (and don't really remember many mlp senes) but rainbow dash still represents loyalty though I can't really explain why,  probably her realizing her mistakes and going back to her friends shows loyalty and honesty. I know this is like 6 years old vid tho.


So many people here who have absolutely no clue what loyalty means. No, loyalty does not mean doing whatever you're told to do. It means one thing and one thing only. Not abandoning the people you're loyal too when they need you. And I don't mean need as in helping with a chore. I mean need as in fully abandoning them.

There has not been a single point in the show except for rainbow falls where Rainbow Dash abandoned her friends when they needed her. And in rainbow falls, the entire point was for Rainbow Dash's loyalty to be tested. And no, small things like dealing with Discords sickness have nothing to do with loyalty. Loyalty does not mean taking on problems that you don't need to take on, even if it ends up being your friends problem as a result. That is kindness, not loyalty.


Dude, why would the creator of mlp give Rainbow dash the element of loyalty if she wasn't loyal in the first place.<br>She could of just gave it to some other pony but she didn't because she deserves it.

Dude, why would the creator of mlp give Rainbow dash the element of loyalty if she wasn't loyal in the first place.
She could of just gave it to some other pony but she didn't because she deserves it.


I feel like applejack should be the element of loyalty and Rainbowdash should be the element of honesty. This is just my opinion. And this has been proved multiple times


Okay so, Rainbow wasn't loyal for only like what- a few times?!? No one is perfect, the characters are not mary sues,they make fucking mistakes and learn from it..that's perfectly normal. She's has the element of Loyalty,so of course at the end of the day she's going to stay loyal with her friends. On the first or second episode. Rainbow Dash stayed loyal to them. (and damn she only knew freaking Fluttershy!!)even when given a opportunity. So yes, I honestly think your being TO hard on Rainbow Dash. Heck, I could even write 4 paragraphs why you were being way to harsh on Rainbow.


Applejack is more loyal than RD and nothing can change my mind😂


This show is meant for kids. If the mane 6 were perfect, kids would be left to believe that they have to be perfect to have a good friend group. Everyone has flaws and that’s normal.


You know I always thought rainbow dash was a bit well unloyal in some episodes I watched and I was just like COME ON RAINBOW HOW ABOUT YOU LEARN YA ELEMENT  I thought it was just she was learning but rarity was generous from the beginning she had moments of doubt but she came to in the end

Rainbow Dash loyalty
1. She's the only one going to look for Spike after he was kidnapped and when surrounded by buffalo, tell Pinkie Pie "Run, Pinkie, I'll hold 'em off. Save yourself!" back in Over A Barrel
2. She's watched over Spike with Twilight and Rarity back in Dragon Quest and put herself in danger by saving Spike from those teen dragons who want to hurt him
3. She quit the wonderbolts for her friends back in Wonderbolts Academy
4. She saved Scootaloo from falling down the waterfall back in Sleepless In Ponyville
5. She standing up for Fluttershy back in The Cutie Mark Chronicles and Gilda in The Lost Treasures Of Griffonstone
6. She saved Soarin in Rainbow Falls
7. She restraining herself when talking to Fluttershy (and also call Fluttershy the "number one flyer") in Hurricane Fluttershy
8. She saved Rarity and members of the wonderbolts in Sonic Rainboom
9. She stopped the train and cheering up Scootaloo back in Flight To The Finish
10. She helped and chase Applejack to go back to ponyville after AJ refused and broke Pinkie's promise
11. She defend Celestia from Discord's insult
12. She stand up for her friends and saved their lives many times, etc
and these was only from season 1-5 because I haven't watch all S6-S9 episodes


I think bring loyal means being there for your friends in the bad times and celebrating with them in the good times


Dude just enjoy the show you don’t need to over analyze everything


Theres a difference between being Loyal and being a servant/slave to your friends who goes along with everything they do. That's how you get <i>used</i> by others. I would know.

Theres a difference between being Loyal and being a servant/slave to your friends who goes along with everything they do. That's how you get _used_ by others. I would know.


I watched mlp on TV when I was younger so I thought it was a recent episode. Then I found out it was on of the early episodes. That must be because cider is considered an alcohol in my country. Anyone else deal with this?


Rainbow Dash - Blunt Honesty
Apple Jack - True Loyalty
Fans - Wait a second
Writers - oh no... what have we done!


loyalty isnt just sticking with your friends. its not giving up and changing your ideals, rainbow is a pony who doesn't quit when things get tough. she does have to pick who to stay loyal to, thats natural, the essence of loyalty. but when she does pick you can know that there wont be anything that she wont do the help.

But thats the true meaning of loyalty,if youre really to youre friends...then you should choose them

New episode gave us another example of her loyalty.

This video should be deleted. It doesn't hold up well at all today and it's just getting him a lot of hate.

You make some good points but I personally don't agree with you. You don't need to listen, I'm just saying this for fun. I don't think sticking with your ideals and not giving up is the same as loyalty. Loyalty is sticking with another person or people, but not giving up is determination, and not changing your ideals is tenacity. Although Rainbow is still loyal, I just don't think that's why.

you don't have be a rainbow dash lover to disagree with this video. You just have to have common sense, which is something Dash haters have zero of. At all. They have no friends either, because nobody would want to be around people like them. They're judgmental self-righteous pricks.

Elijah Wong The opposite of loyalty is betreyal and your a rainbow dash lover just search loyalty

Umm... No it doesn't. Loyalty is when you will stay by someone's side even if they become unpopular. You tell them the truth and spend time with them equally with your other friends. That's loyalty.

you're smarter than most of these pony "analyists".

Elijah Wong i agree.... another thing not to hate on the video but all the elements do the opposite sometimes for example when pinkie pie goes sad... or when fluttershy tried not be be a pushover

Elijah Wong yay but then again you could be wrong 😏.

felisa audynia what a compelling argument insulting and making stupid noises, GOOD JOB!!! 👍🏼

Rock Mint Swirl exactly!! Seriously rainbow dash tried to fight nature in order to save her friend

Loyalty is not catering to everyone's whim. It's knowing what's RIGHT for whoever you are being loyal to. Which sometimes is brutally honest or not giving up. ~ Mintstar

Elijah Wong Well Rainbow also ever gets scared.. like a... CHI...CHI... CHIKKENN.... BUCK-A-COOKCALOO

Elijah Wong I don't know what you mean. Determination and loyalty are essentially different traits.

Phesheya Bhembe determination and loyalty are synonyms just like in magical mystery cure where celestia described the characteristics of why  twilight is a princess

Actually I just realized I was talking to two people so to Pheshya Bhembe I thought you were the first person that's why I said you were determined to be right......sorry for the confusion everyone-_-

@Elijah Wong No I was talking to them. I thought you were them because I wasn't paying attention to the username.

Phesheya Bhembe I think i .candy was talking to me

i .candy I don't understand. I'm either right or wrong. It doesn't matter if I'm determined or not or if you "let" me be right. Are you saying I'm actually wrong?

i .candy in what instances has she not been loyal? Just curious
Rainbow falls
Rarity investigates
Daring don't
Hurricane fluttershy
Wonder bolts academy
Those are all episodes where she had displayed loyalty off the top of my head.
Pinkie isn't always optimistic
Wonder bolts Acadamy
Party of one
And no one in the mane 6 would count all that grass, not even twi who supposedly demonstrates all the elements would count all that grass. Spike just did that due to his dragon code and went out of control. There had been instances in which twi had asked him to do something less painstaking and he just moaned and complained. Under dragon code he didn't care.

Phesheya Bhembe Ok whatever. You're determined to be right so I'll just let you be right.

Elijah Wong What you described is determination, not loyalty.

Loyalty does also involve those things you mentioned but if she's loyal one of her ideals should be sticking to her friends no matter what and sometimes Rainbow doesn't do that. In fact most of the time Rainbow doesn't do that. Someone who is truly loyal isn't going to abandon their friends for their own gain like she did more than once. That's not how you treat friends. Like he said it didn't just stop with her friends she abandoned all of ponyville at times. That's not loyal. Yes she does have to pick who to be loyal to and often times Rainbow doesn't make the right decision. If she were loyal she wouldn't have to learn to do that she would just do it. That would be a part of her. Like how Pinkie's element is optimism because she's always happy no matter what happens. She didn't learn that that's just who she is. Learning to be loyal and actually being loyal are two separate things. If apple had asked rainbow to count that grass I agree that she wouldn't of done it. She would've tried. But she ultimately would've gotten bored and done something else. Rainbow's not bad she tries to do good and is a good character.....but she's not loyal.....Sorry this is so long btw....

you also forgot the result of rainbow falls


This won't fit in your small mind she deserves to become alicorn


I mean this is also why appledash is confirmed canon in the last problem. They can help each other really unlock their elements


Applejack is objectively the best pony of all,, shes

Kind
Loyal
generous
funny
honest (not,, its one of her default and exactly why she is honesty)

and more of that,, shes not perfect even with all of that

but who saved the life of Twilight in the 2st episode ?
who go after Fluttershy when she got scared by the dragon and bring her back with the team ?
who think of her family before anything else in the gala thing ?

(its not even my favorite pony,, i love Pinkie pie,, but i think that AppleJack is objectively the best one)


Y’all… you realize this was made 8 years ago, right? They didn’t have the episodes we do now. So just please stop judging them.


She does deserve her element but she sometimes makes a mistake and then realizes it. When some of them were trading rainbow dash didn’t realize flutter shy had to leave when she traded the pet for the book. She then realizes it then Twilight says it was a fair trade when she wanted that book and that person wanted that pet and wanted it to be trained. But she disagreed when she realized she made a mistake letting fluttershy go to mane hattan. She said that a friend is more important than anything. So she makes a mistake then realizes it.


I wanna point out just a few issues rainbow dash is loyal and proves it more not as mush as fluttershy proves her kindness and pinkie her laughter but she still chooses her friends like the one episode mentioned rainbow dash wanted to spend more time with Gilda because from the sounds of it they didn’t get to see each other often and rainbow dash is easily able to see pinkie and her other friends more but then when Gilda says RD’s friends are lame and she should hangout with Gilda it wasn’t just everything else that brought her back to her friends it was also her loyalty to the right ponies and Spike counted all the blades of grass because he loves helping is friends specially the ones who save him he is after all twilights helped and was twilights test to get into magic school ~Drops mic~


you're right AJ should be loyalty and RD should be honesty


Ok so to answer why there was the honesty issue in the early seasons. So honestly doesn't just mean honesty to other people it's also honesty to yourself. The wonderbolts episode proved rainbow dash choosing the honesty to her friends while trying to keep the honesty to herself and her dreams... It wasn't really a struggle of the wonderful to her friends it was a struggle of the dream or the people she cared about.


I think she maybe not deserve her element but she is still needed in friendship


Honestly all the Mane six have broken out of their elements at times.

(I'm aware this video was created before some of the newer episodes of mlp were out, I'm just pointing things out)

Twilight: When she was younger all she would do is study and close the door on anyone who tried to make contact. She also wasn't as good as magic.

Fluttershy: There has bern several times she was pushed into doing something unkind or pushing animals away.

Pinkie Pie: She literally lived on a rock farm with a blank gray family and there has been times where she gave up on her happiness and laughter.

Rarity: Rarity once had herself covered in mud when Applejack and her where battling for their crush. Although I don't really remember much of her breaking out of element.

Applejack: In one of the episodes in around season 6 or 5 she shares a story to applebloom when she lied. But I don't really recall her breaking apart from the apples.

Rainbowdash: She has left her friends for the wonderbolts 1 or 2 times. But her passion for flying and never left her.

Honestly all the Mane six have broken out of their elements at times.

(I'm aware this video was created before some of the newer episodes of mlp were out, I'm just pointing things out)

*Twilight:* When she was younger all she would do is study and close the door on anyone who tried to make contact. She also wasn't as good as magic.

*Fluttershy:* There has bern several times she was pushed into doing something unkind or pushing animals away.

*Pinkie Pie:* She literally lived on a rock farm with a blank gray family and there has been times where she gave up on her happiness and laughter.

*Rarity:* Rarity once had herself covered in mud when Applejack and her where battling for their crush. Although I don't really remember much of her breaking out of element.

*Applejack:* In one of the episodes in around season 6 or 5 she shares a story to applebloom when she lied. But I don't really recall her breaking apart from the apples.

*Rainbowdash:* She has left her friends for the wonderbolts 1 or 2 times. But her passion for flying and never left her.


Rainbow dash does deserve element she is always there for her friends no matter what


Well, how would you consider this if you started examining later episodes up to now?


If she doesnt recieved her mark(element of loyalty)<br>Her friends will not get their marks neither if she doesnt do the sonic rainbow boom.

If she doesnt recieved her mark(element of loyalty)
Her friends will not get their marks neither if she doesnt do the sonic rainbow boom.


rainbow dash wanted to fly with the wonder bolts and she did but close to the end of the episode she turned it down for her friends and loyalty doesn't only mean for her friends it also means for the rest of the world. Applejack has lied but I still think she is perfect for her element. you cut out all the good parts of those episodes so you would look right.. well at least that's what it looks like


And for your information rainbow is the perfect elements of loyalty she almost lost our whole dreams trying to defend her friends. Spike the elements of loyalty you're crazy


being a loyal friend is just getting their back and i think she well give up her dreams for her friends


When Rainbow dash is being honest she's being brutally honest thought while applejack is being honest is a mature way


IVE ALWAYS THOUGHT SHE NEVER DESERVED IT

Rainbow Dash could leave Ponyville anytime to accomplish her dreams, but she doesn't. She stays there with her friends. THAT's why she's loyal.


Loyalty does not mean she will always pick her friends it means when you do something and not pick your friends then you pick them because you  think that they are more important and special.


Twilight: magic/soccery
Rarity: beauty
Pinky: hope (hope to make people smile and happy)
Rainbowdash: bravery (she's very brave and strong)
Applejack: strength (shes very strong aswell she saved people from a huge element)
Fluttershy: healing (she can heal animals and that we can see she can and she you know the swamp fever
(These are the pillars elements)


I agree that Rainbow Dash doesnt          deserve it . But I dont suppose that AJ and Rainbow Dash should exchange their  element . I think AJ is both Loyal and Honest .

No offence Rainbow Dash fans .


Rainbow doesn't need someone else to replace her as element of loyalty


Rainbow Dash is very loyal when she has to be. Despiting her overblown ego, she's loyal, just not perfect. No one's perfect. I disagree with this. I do wish you a good day.


You forgot the elements of harmony only counts in season 1


ya know, rainbow dash should just be the element of bravery.


Rainbow Dash does the right thing at the end like in every show you’re just trying to get the heat on her this video is not that good because you’re not mentioning the parts at the end where she says sorry to her friends stands up for them you just want everybody be on your side so people stop being like that cause Rainbow Dash is getting hate


Loyalty means whenever your friends are in need you are there. Like in the Friendship Games in Equestria Girls Rainbow Dash helped Sunset Shimmer in the motorbike part.


And lets not forget that Gilda was her <b>childhood</b> friend.

And lets not forget that Gilda was her *childhood* friend.


Is nobody gonna talk about how fluttershy represents four elements. And yes spike totally works better


I personally think they All have a little bit of every Element They just each represent An Element

Just my Thoughts~