Outside of the sorrow i feel for the wife and children...i feel horrible for this mans father<br> As a father myself i could not IMAGINE being in his shoes...he must have been devatstated

Outside of the sorrow i feel for the wife and children...i feel horrible for this mans father
 As a father myself i could not IMAGINE being in his shoes...he must have been devatstated

If my son had admitted to doing that to my daughter in law and grandchildren the police would have had to have got back into that room pretty damn quick.

If my son had admitted to doing that to my daughter in law and grandchildren the police would have had to have got back into that room pretty damn quick.

At first, but since then they tried to drag Shannan thru the mud

At first, but since then they tried to drag Shannan thru the mud

@Andrea Solís Fernández my mom is a teacher, and sadly, yes, it is most parents. She says it’s gotten worst in the past 5 years, and if a parent insists their kid is good, she doesn’t even bother arguing because it happens so often and never works out.

Not only devastated, but he also has to use every ounce of energy left in his body to maintain a fake outer veneer, not letting his son see his pain, staying strong for his sake. I can't imagine the strength good parents have. I scares me for parenthood. Idk if I have it in me. Or maybe that's how we all feel until we actually have children and realize we'd do anything for them

What a coincidence, I only started watching the fights on your channel a month ago. Crazy seeing this channel here.

What a coincidence, I only started watching the fights on your channel a month ago. Crazy seeing this channel here.

@Alan Matković I always defended my child over Public School. Because of my experience in public school. Fortunately I got him out was able to get him in private school. I was abused by public school teachers. They attempted to do the same thing to my child I would not allow it. You're damn right I didn't believe a word those  child abuser said

He should’ve have settled it on streetbeefs

He should’ve have settled it on streetbeefs

That was the worst thing about the investigation, they 100% could’ve got him to crack without <b>using</b> his dad like that. He’ll never forget that day in the bleak interrogation room

That was the worst thing about the investigation, they 100% could’ve got him to crack without *using* his dad like that. He’ll never forget that day in the bleak interrogation room

@Lord of the Pies Before writing something about the father look at some of the interviews and info about him. So then you can know that psychopaths like these are created from other things.

Man how do you comfort a monster ?<br>My thoughts are with victims  and his father appliged to go through living hell

Man how do you comfort a monster ?
My thoughts are with victims  and his father appliged to go through living hell

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex I’m sorry for what you experienced but that has nothing to do with this scenario. You describe a brother doing something wrong not a son. Parents almost always back their children

Um.. how about HER parents. His parents DO. NOT. CARE.

Um.. how about HER parents. His parents DO. NOT. CARE.

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex Totally agree!!!!!!

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex Totally agree!!!!!!

I love StreetBeefs every time I watch it I want to start my own backyard mma league.  As far as I know Idaho is a wide open market.  Gumby is so entertaining to watch, looks like someone who was either trapped in a locker, or hanging out with the biology teacher in high school, but obviously loves stepping in the ring, and practices quite a bit.  He's constantly improving, and has become quite good.

He clearly didn't raise his son right. Evil is passed down from the parents to the children

He clearly didn't raise his son right. Evil is passed down from the parents to the children

@C Brown how did he lie?? He just believed what his son was telling him

@C Brown how did he lie?? He just believed what his son was telling him

@mutedmutiny exactly! So in order to honor their granddaughters and daughter in law the human thing to do would be accepting the truth and accepting that Chris killed them. My point is that instead of doing that, they pretend to eat Chris’s story about Shannan killing her babies and him killing her in a fit of rage. I never said that they wanted anyone dead and yes they are obviously sad by the deaths what I said is that they refuse to believe how much of a pos they raised. Grieving doesn’t cloud your judgement so you can side with a monster that took 3 innocent lives. It’s their sickening attitude at siding with Chris what’s horrible. They never acknowledged the pain he caused.

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex I didn’t say YOU said that. My point is that even if they despised her I think they were still very, very sad, both for the grandkids, for the wife, for their son who did one of the most horrific and despicable things ever and who will instantly become one of the most hated people in the world and simultaneously throw his life away, and for themselves as parents and grandparents who essentially lost their son and grandkids. So I think they were very very sad all around, and whatever they felt for his wife was irrelevant in that moment.

@Whitney B I googled it. What I read is that they ALLEGEDLY tried collecting it - so it’s not definitive, it’s alleged, but the same article points out the claims are exempt from murder or suicide, and since they were murdered, it would seem to me that there is no claim to be made there.

@mutedmutiny can you show me where I said anything close to “his parents wanted her dead”?

@mutedmutiny can you show me where I said anything close to “his parents wanted her dead”?

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex they may have hated her prior to all this but that doesn’t mean they wanted her dead or wanted their son to throw his life away. Like that’s just not even a fair thing to say because whatever their feelings about her were prior to her murder don’t matter after he’s killed her. Even if you have a mortal enemy you aren’t going to want someone you love to throw their life away to kill them. You’re just way off base.

@Nell Ross amen that’s a great statement

@Nell Ross amen that’s a great statement

@Alan Matković no I’m not talking about that confession. I’m talking about the fact that Chris told his parents that Shannan killed the girls (an obvious lie after the facts came to life) instead of accepting he was obviously lying and was just trying to appear as if he JUST killed Shannan in a “fit of vengeance”. So we all know that he killed his babies and wife, but Chris’s parents in a stupid attempt to deflect guilt away from their “innocent boy” stand to that lie to this day. That’s the insulting part. That they will defend a lie rather than accept they raised a coward, cheater, child murderer, mamas boy.

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex AMEN. I could not have said it better myself. He lied for his son too

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex AMEN. I could not have said it better myself. He lied for his son too

Amen man. When he says 'Have mercy....' It breaks my heart.

Amen man. When he says 'Have mercy....' It breaks my heart.

Exactly what I came to the comments for, the way he reacted when he realized the severity of the situation was heartbreaking

Exactly what I came to the comments for, the way he reacted when he realized the severity of the situation was heartbreaking

I’m not so sure about that. I think his parents are just like Chris or visa versa. They hated Shanann. They’re both nuts and they got together and had a crazy kid.

I’m not so sure about that. I think his parents are just like Chris or visa versa. They hated Shanann. They’re both nuts and they got together and had a crazy kid.

@Alan Matković LOL his confession isn't credited to his dad and they would have got it regardless. The detectives used his dad to get it, knowing full and well Chris was cracking and about to confess. All his dad did was sit there and actually hinted to Chris to stop talking and get a lawyer. He was AGAINST Chris confessing. But Chris is so damn stupid, he kept blabbing and as soon as his dad realized what was happening and mentioned a lawyer, the detectives came back in. Coincidence? No. They were watching. It was their plan all along and it worked. Chris preformed horribly under pressure and had already failed the lie detector test, left crucial evidence strewn about the crime scene, buried his own wife and soon-to-be son in a shallow grave that would have resurfaced, was sloppy with his mistress and was the only one with motive.

His parents still blame Shanann for her own murder and even tried to get her life insurance money. They still treat him like the golden child and pretend he didn't murder his wife and babies.
If he never confessed, if for some reason in a backwards universe the evidence didn't prove he committed the murders, if he didn't crack when he did, his father actually tried to shut him up and ask for a lawyer. He could have been the reason Chris WALKED. Do not credit that man with the detectives work.

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex Did you burn the cakes  ?

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex Did you burn the cakes  ?

@Andre M everyone is entitled to legal representation, guilty or not; deplorable or not, for someone to remind a person of that right is no problem. I agree with the narrator. It would have delayed the inevitable by only a day or two. A week tops.

Streetbeefs on here? Wtf? And why dont you guys have a checkmark?!

Streetbeefs on here? Wtf? And why dont you guys have a checkmark?!

I don’t think he was so devastated. He was so ready to blame it all on Shan’ann,

I don’t think he was so devastated. He was so ready to blame it all on Shan’ann,

Agree.  He lost his son and granddaughters all at once and for no reason other than the bloated ego of the boy he raised.  He must wonder where he went wrong but who can really explain the mind of a person willing to murder his own children?

That “Good God almighty, son” was heavy.

That “Good God almighty, son” was heavy.

@A K ......he killed his wife in her sleep and killed his daughters much later. Your theory makes zero sense

@A K ......he killed his wife in her sleep and killed his daughters much later. Your theory makes zero sense

@Landbergaren Chris is the victim here, not the karen wife.

@Landbergaren Chris is the victim here, not the karen wife.

Both Chris mother and father made the sentence speech be all about how much sympathy they have for Chris and how much they love him and they did not address the victims or tragedy.<br>Chris probably knew that he could do whatever he wanted and still always have their comfort, respect and love.

Both Chris mother and father made the sentence speech be all about how much sympathy they have for Chris and how much they love him and they did not address the victims or tragedy.
Chris probably knew that he could do whatever he wanted and still always have their comfort, respect and love.

@Shauna Lee He sure have felt pity for his son for chosing wrong girl to marry.

@Shauna Lee He sure have felt pity for his son for chosing wrong girl to marry.

@Miranda Hemer He murdered his wife. Killing his children was a kistake which happened due to adrelline rush. I pity the man, he has to find live in another woman because his wife was giving him hell. He lost his daughters because of his wife.

@A K I can tell yours sexist. Nice. So it’s okay to murder her? He was the one in the wrong. Murdered his wife and children. Wtf is wrong with you for siding with them.

@A K I can tell yours sexist. Nice. So it’s okay to murder her? He was the one in the wrong. Murdered his wife and children. Wtf is wrong with you for siding with them.

@Miranda Hemer Wife shouldn't have acted like a witch and gave him the divorce without taking half the money. Women should learn from this that greeed is not good.

@Miranda Hemer Wife shouldn't have acted like a witch and gave him the divorce without taking half the money. Women should learn from this that greeed is not good.

I will never feel for them. Most parents denounce kids after they do something as horrible and disgusting as this. They still try to say Shanan did this, and his mother even fed one of the daughters PEANUTS. Which the daughter was allergic to. For someone who really "must have been devastated," he seemed to not have cared for his granddaughters or daughter-in-law. He just wanted his son to walk free. His parents seemed as controlling as Chris did. They are old enough to know right from wrong. They looked past what he did and blamed the wife for everything. Bullshit.

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex I respect the hell outta you, Alfred the Great. This was a well written, well thought out response. All hail the King of Wessex!

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex I respect the hell outta you, Alfred the Great. This was a well written, well thought out response. All hail the King of Wessex!

I feel bad for chris. Imagine having a horrible wife who so bad and evil that he have to find love somewhere else. She must have blackmail him for alimony. Poor chris

I feel bad for chris. Imagine having a horrible wife who so bad and evil that he have to find love somewhere else. She must have blackmail him for alimony. Poor chris

He made victims out of everyone around him.  His parents too.  I share your sentiment.

He made victims out of everyone around him.  His parents too.  I share your sentiment.

I was really angry about how chris’ dad handled this but then I realized he was in absolute shock. I would hate to have seen when everything finally sank in.

I was really angry about how chris’ dad handled this but then I realized he was in absolute shock. I would hate to have seen when everything finally sank in.

If you still don't think Chris' parents are horrible people who helped raise that monster, maybe look at the fact that after their precious golden child snuffed out their grandbabies lives with his own hands as well as their daughter in law, they tried to get their life insurance money. Chris' parents. They fought to take it from Shananns parents who were the only ones who actually cared, lost their daughter and their grandchildren in the same night by the psycho chris' parents raised. Js.

They had no right to even ask for that money let alone fight for it.

@Tammy Sims I find your analysis to be totally on point with respect to the family dynamics/dysfunction. The fact that Chris' sister's children seemed favored by the Watts tends to confirm.

@Tammy Sims I find your analysis to be totally on point with respect to the family dynamics/dysfunction. The fact that Chris' sister's children seemed favored by the Watts tends to confirm.

Dude lost his sons whole family. That's fucked

Dude lost his sons whole family. That's fucked

He lose his precious grandbabies. A beautiful daughter in law. And is losing his son... just wow wow wow. And the person you thought you knew is dead.

He lose his precious grandbabies. A beautiful daughter in law. And is losing his son... just wow wow wow. And the person you thought you knew is dead.

I feel sorry for the dad he shouldn’t of talked with out a lawyer

I feel sorry for the dad he shouldn’t of talked with out a lawyer

@Otman Zayer So? They can not like her family and also not approve of their son murdering her. That is a total non-sequitur and you're just jumping to conclusions based off your own opinions like a dolt.

Real shit you could see it.... I wonder how he felt once the TRUTH was revealed

Real shit you could see it.... I wonder how he felt once the TRUTH was revealed

Yeah when he said god almighty it sank in. He's 5 years older than me so I can imagine my father if this was me. Sad he didn't take his advice of getting a lawyer

Yeah when he said god almighty it sank in. He's 5 years older than me so I can imagine my father if this was me. Sad he didn't take his advice of getting a lawyer

Chris’ dad is a junkie, and his mom is a malignant narcissist. His sister seems like a creep, too.

Chris’ dad is a junkie, and his mom is a malignant narcissist. His sister seems like a creep, too.

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex I absolutely agree with all you said. I wonder if Chris parents can't face the fact of all he did and are in denial so they blame everyone but Chris. But what I think is probably a lot closer to the truth is they hated Sha'nann so much. And the children, were apart of her... so they hated them as much. As crazy as it sounds, I bet they secretly denied those kids were even Chris. No offense, but Chris dad seems, well, not right mentally. Ronnie probably was berated by Cindy and he just learned to keep his mouth shut to avoid conflict. Cindy, in my opinion, is the poisonous well that everyone in the Watts family drank from.

@Otman Zayer but the son did not say he killed the grandkids at the time only the wife he said the wife killed the kids not him if I was the father I would do the exact same thing

@Otman Zayer but the son did not say he killed the grandkids at the time only the wife he said the wife killed the kids not him if I was the father I would do the exact same thing

@Whitney B You really need to catch up. The Watts family and the Rzucek families have BOTH been paid out from the life insurance policy. It was Chris’ policy through Anadarko. Stop spreading misinformation

@Otman Zayer, you have cognitive dissonance.

@Otman Zayer, you have cognitive dissonance.

@Otman Zayer, damn, no one in their right mind spreads false narratives, and malicious gossip against people who have been through do much. Let me guess, it was on the internet, so it must be true. You have serious issues.

@Andre M, you don't think much, do you? What you said is crazy af. Any parent would assume their child is telling the truth, and offer to get them an attorney. You definitely are not a parent.

@Has Goodles, it's crystal clear that you are not a psychologist.

@Has Goodles, it's crystal clear that you are not a psychologist.

The wife was named Shanann, and the children were named Nico (unborn child), Bella, and Celeste. Not sure if the spellings are right though.

The wife was named Shanann, and the children were named Nico (unborn child), Bella, and Celeste. Not sure if the spellings are right though.

And as you could hear calling a lawyer was the right thing for the father to do

And as you could hear calling a lawyer was the right thing for the father to do

Parents always defend their kid and for giving doesn't mean pardoning... It's just how it is.

Parents always defend their kid and for giving doesn't mean pardoning... It's just how it is.

@Andrea Solís Fernández I have several family members that are teachers themselves, my GF included. 99% is obviously hyperbolic, but they all agree majority of the parents are reluctant to think their little angels can make a mistake. One of them works for the last 25 years. She said in the early 00’s the parents were far less defensive of their kids and throwing all the problems on the teacher.

@Alan Matković 99% will accuse the teacher? That's so wrong, some parents do that, not the mayority, are you even a parent yourself?

@Alan Matković 99% will accuse the teacher? That's so wrong, some parents do that, not the mayority, are you even a parent yourself?

I literally just said that. It’s painful as a parent to watch this. Total nightmare. I do believe I would need to be medicated I’d be so distraught

I literally just said that. It’s painful as a parent to watch this. Total nightmare. I do believe I would need to be medicated I’d be so distraught

@Otman Zayer I think it's one of those situations where you can't speak on it unless you live it. None of us know how we would react

@Otman Zayer I think it's one of those situations where you can't speak on it unless you live it. None of us know how we would react

@Has Goodles says the private internet detective which condemned all the family instantly. Get a life hun.

@Has Goodles says the private internet detective which condemned all the family instantly. Get a life hun.

@Maria C Chris Watts parents are seeking her insurance money. Google it.

@Maria C Chris Watts parents are seeking her insurance money. Google it.

Really? His first fucking thought was lawyering up. Not crying for his dead grand kids.

Really? His first fucking thought was lawyering up. Not crying for his dead grand kids.

@JJ Squirdle Supastar The question is: how true is it?

@JJ Squirdle Supastar The question is: how true is it?

I do think it’s a bit odd that the dad, after being told multiple times, that both his granddaughters are dead he doesn’t really show much (if any) emotion...

I do think it’s a bit odd that the dad, after being told multiple times, that both his granddaughters are dead he doesn’t really show much (if any) emotion...

Chris's parents never showed any feeling of remorse or sadness that their son had murdered his wife and children. In court they told Chris they forgive him and completely discarded Shanann, their grandchildren and Shananns family. The family is full of narcissism and his mother shows the same traits that her son possesses.

@Daeson Well, the reason why there was such a rift between Shannan and her in-laws, (at least, the biggest issue before her death), was that Chris' mother fed one of her granddaughters peanuts, despite knowing she was deathly allergic.
While I don't think Chris' mom intended to hurt her granddaughter, she clearly didn't pay much attention to their safety as perhaps she should have. Shannan, in texts to Chris, describes not liking his family's treatment of her, and her kids.
His folks weren't evil, but they weren't all that nice either; especially since they didn't even go to their wedding, and consistently tried to drive Shannan away, and even tarnished her reputation after her murder. If my parents did that to my partner, I'd cut them off. But Chris, of course, never defended her.
Mile Higher Podcast has a two hour video all about this case, I recommend it.

@Daeson Cute sentiment but no, sorry. The father should have immediately walked out and let the police take over. Get a lawyer? For what? To defend Chris so that he can potentially walk free? No, sorry, no defending that father buddy, good try.

His parents are trying to get Shannan’s life insurance money. They are horrible people too.

His parents are trying to get Shannan’s life insurance money. They are horrible people too.

@Alan Matković I heard the grandparents thought the grandkids Russian Roulette too.

@Alan Matković I heard the grandparents thought the grandkids Russian Roulette too.

@Alan Matković  I listened to the “Chris Watts Prison Interviews” last night. I found it fascinating. I think that he is “sorry”. It’s like listening to a patient who has lived through a paranoid ‘break’ & killed family. ‘Good & nice family men’ who have experienced the many pressures of “falling into an affair” tell a very similar story...they just ‘wake-up’ when they see the devastation that they have caused to their wife...not strangle her!

@Suzi Monkey I’ve always been interested in human psychology and read a lot of books in the exact topic for years. I must admit I’ve never heard about that forum but will definitely check it out. Thanks! Cases like Chris Watts are, thank God, far and far between, nevertheless I think we should always ask ourselves what did make this humans do what they did. He wasn’t a convinced felon or someone with a known psychological issue. He was never accused of violence before, yet he did the worst kind of violence to his closest family and seemingly had no regret at all. It seems the human brain, at its core, will always remain a mystery.

@Alfred The Great, King Of Wessex “big plot” his dad was literally the one who got the confession out of him so he goes to prison. So that’s not okay towards him. If he wasn’t there who knows if he would ever admit. He wasn’t reacting to the detective.

@Alan Matković hi bro. With all due respect I’m just gonna recommend to listen to a couple of interviews with the parents. They hated Shannan because she was trying to make a man out of that POS chris. He was always a mama’s boy and he was a huge pushover with his mom in specific. The parents obviously didn’t have anything to do with the crime and I’m pretty sure they would never wanted anyone dead. But when it was time to accept what Chris did and see that they have a monster for a son, they decided that it was all a big plot against him. Yes it’s their son that they raise but sometimes that is not enough. Talking from experience when my dad’s brother did horrible things to me when I was a kid, my parents believed me and they decided that he was no longer someone who they wanted in their life. Chris’s parents are pos because they won’t honor their grandchildren and daughter in laws legacy by accepting the truth.

@Otman Zayer How about because until that very moment, his son in his own eyes was the good child he had always known him to be. As Chris had his own kids, he was his parents'. As you accuse others of projecting perceived morals and goodness from Chris' father, you're projecting as well: just because someone does not approve of someone else's marriage it does not mean they attempted to kill them. In fact, how would you even know that? After looking around there's no reports of attempted murder, by the grandparents of Celeste and Bella or even abuse by said grandparents. Just because someone doesn't show up at a wedding it makes them a murderer-to-be? On that, sources please.

Chris' own parents are defending him sure, as parents do but that does not make them narcissistic or murderous. That's such a long shot you could touch the moon. Chris is where he needs to be and rotting away - but that doesn't mean his parents are assholes.

@Otman Zayer omg 😲 thats insane and scary

@Otman Zayer omg 😲 thats insane and scary

The father was was the saddest part for me.  To live to his age, raise a son to adult hood, and then have it end like this. To know that he cant do anything about it.

The father was was the saddest part for me.  To live to his age, raise a son to adult hood, and then have it end like this. To know that he cant do anything about it.


Blaming his dead wife, making her seem like the monster was the most evil thing he could have done at that moment.

@Jonathan King yes the fact that his image was of a great father role model is what screwed him and really protected him for so long

Jonathan King He said “at that moment”. He’d already killed them; the worst thing he could do at the interrogation was pile all the blame on her.

Ya and not murdering his family and lying about it

Jonathan King he said “at that moment” learn to read

@Jesse Gutierrez He's reiterating my comment.

@Caniel Dormier Same thing with MMA fans I see.

@Huckleberry Harrison norm fans everywhere lol

Bill Cosby's worst crime was being a hypocrite.

I think actually murdering his wife and daughters was the MOST evil thing he could have done but I digress.


Apparently one of the girls resisted. I can't imagine the terror of feeling a parent murdering you.

Apparently one of the girls resisted. I can't imagine the terror of feeling a parent murdering you.

@tiffany i sure hope hes just a kid that likes to troll.. If not oh booooy does he need to visit a therapist

@tiffany i sure hope hes just a kid that likes to troll.. If not oh booooy does he need to visit a therapist

Tonia Krijt wow that red coyote person is legit one of the craziest commenters I’ve ever read, hopefully it’s just an actual 12 year old whose parents will learn to slap some parental controls on their YouTube account

@Red Coyote Jam Garden my point exactly! You could really write that about yourself.

Go get help

@Red Coyote Jam Garden my point exactly! You could really write that about yourself.

Go get help

@Red Coyote Jam Garden Oh, this is probably to long again huh?

Age isn't equal to life experience.

@Red Coyote Jam Garden Oh, this is probably to long again huh?

Age isn't equal to life experience.

@Red Coyote Jam Garden
I'm sorry but if that were true your behavior would show as much.
I've met highschool kids that have more empathy, comprehensive reading skills and are able look past their own thoughts and opinions. In other words, basic skills

You are the person that keeps on giving even tho noone needs you to.

Your selfreflection is so bad that you don't even realise how bad your behavior is! 😂😂

So keep on trying to deflect M'am and while you're at it get some help

@Red Coyote Jam Garden oh honey, I'm giving the advice from a place of life experience!
That's why I'm sure you need help!

Now, go get some help!

@gheddi Thats absolutely true! Men naturally tend to have more agressive tendensies than woman. I Wasn't only talking about the aggresion to be honest though. After going back and forth for a few days it appears to me as if he has more problems then we strangers will ever know.

I just hope he finds/has someone in who he can confide

@Red Coyote Jam Garden I'll keep it short then!

There you go trying to get an emotional response again.

You really need to get help.
Get help and get better!

@Red Coyote Jam Garden Awww, thank you! Yes, I will keep myself and the immune compromised people healthy and safe by having vaccines if needed! Thats the kindest thing you've said so far! I wish you a very healthy life as well!

But I see you're past talking about abortions and implying that I'm racist now! Even though we could call it progress, which I'm all for, how about keeping that energy for actual racists? That sounds like a good plan, now doesn't it?

Holy shit tho! Reading a new history book sounds like a great idea! You're putting some great ideas out there! You're really doing better already!

You know what? Once the vaccine against corona is made and this pandamic is somewhat stable I'm sure to visit the library! Thank you so much for this idea! Hey, now I have a weird idea! You could maybe even go and read some history books as well! Maybe even throw in some books about biology?

Oh boy! I almost can't wait to talk about everything we'll have learned!

Seriously tho: I hope you're doing well, have a nice day and hope you stay healthy

@Red Coyote Jam Garden You just confirmed what I said though.. Its adamant that you really do need to work on how you view woman and life in general. Because name calling someone you've never met? Could you read comprehensivly? I said what I said. I'm anti abortion. Exactly for the reason you gave: the nervous system is developing around the 7th week of pregnancy. So the fetus does indeed have pain when aborted above 7 weeks.

@Red Coyote Jam Garden guess who has to offer up their own body to give birth tho. Postpartum infections, excessive bleeding. Some pregnancies leave woman disabled for the rest of their lives. Not even talking about the woman that would die giving birth. Or having to get their whole uturus taken out.

Woman that were raped.
Children that would be born seriously disformed.
Now lets alternatively say they could give up the un/healthy babies up for adoption. The woman would still be forced to carry out the pregnancy. Something noone should decide for her.

The children would end up in the system.
Would they get enough to eat? A place to sleep safely? Would they get enough love? A good education?

While I myself could never opt for a abortion except for when my life would be in danger that doesn't mean other woman shouldn't be able to.

@Baselia Caliga "A drop of water is not a glass of water. Checkmate, pro-lifers"

@Baselia Caliga "A drop of water is not a glass of water. Checkmate, pro-lifers"

@mram3610 he's in a cell by himself 23 hours a day where inmates can't get him. If he's put in Gen pop, Chris is a dead man walking.

@anityy Literally months from your original post to have anything meaningful to say, just to end it on being a very milquetoast person. At least you were consistent the whole time.

@Matthias Thulman Wow, you're so reasonable. Not.

@Matthias Thulman Wow, you're so reasonable. Not.

or anyone for that matter. it was probably something that put them into shock though being their own parent that did it (I want to say dad, as I dont believe his story that she did it. That makes no sense) so maybe have been better than if it were a complete stranger or monster.

Mark of CAIN Was just praying for the mark of Cain on my kids and I.

Mark of CAIN Was just praying for the mark of Cain on my kids and I.

@Aris E I had no way of knowing you're a female, can't realpy base anything off profile pics otherwise I'd be a pumpkin. <br>But yeah, we can agree to disagree

@Aris E I had no way of knowing you're a female, can't realpy base anything off profile pics otherwise I'd be a pumpkin.
But yeah, we can agree to disagree

@Matthias Thulman dude im a female 100% tf you talking about sir? But agree to disagree

@Matthias Thulman dude im a female 100% tf you talking about sir? But agree to disagree

@66rabidmonkey because that was their dads job you dumb fuq! God gives us FREE WILL.

@66rabidmonkey because that was their dads job you dumb fuq! God gives us FREE WILL.

Ugh that hurt my souls when I read this.. so true I could not imagine that happening to me and I'm a grown ass woman. Lord

Ugh that hurt my souls when I read this.. so true I could not imagine that happening to me and I'm a grown ass woman. Lord

@Aris E No sir, I mean black americans. Elon Musk is an african american, your average black in america is not. It's just a black American, nothing wrong with that. Just like I'm a white American.
 It's just a descriptor, I'm not sure why people get so bent out of shape about it
Unkess they hold dual citizenship, they are just American.

@Matthias Thulman "blacks" lol it rolls of your tongue so quickly do you mean african americans ?

@Matthias Thulman "blacks" lol it rolls of your tongue so quickly do you mean african americans ?

@Stand Up Literally the guy to whom you said "Hang on you were just talking about abortion. Make up your mind, you just derailed the conversation."
You have:
• no argument
• atrocious reading comprehension

@Stand Up I think you confused me with Dudley Hughbanks a few comments ago. You have no argument 😂

@Stand Up I think you confused me with Dudley Hughbanks a few comments ago. You have no argument 😂

@Stand Up Very cool! It is also true that you could use birth control or just not have sex.

@Stand Up Very cool! It is also true that you could use birth control or just not have sex.

@Stand Up Well, that's not true, but you seem to be quite opposed to the truth in general.

@Stand Up Well, that's not true, but you seem to be quite opposed to the truth in general.

@Austin you do realise that women can't just get their tubes tied right? You do know that women are refused unless they have a certain number of children and not unless they're over a certain age?<br>Obviously not. Get your facts straight before you start mansplaining pregnancy to women.

@Austin you do realise that women can't just get their tubes tied right? You do know that women are refused unless they have a certain number of children and not unless they're over a certain age?
Obviously not. Get your facts straight before you start mansplaining pregnancy to women.

@Stand Up The converse to your 'vasectomy' argument is this: "Don't like pregnancy? Then get your tubes tied." One-sided and short-sighted.
And I'm not telling women what they can and can't do with their bodies. I asked if it was too much to ask that women practice safe sex or abstain altogether if they don't wish to bear children. Evidently--at least as far as you're concerned--the answer is, "Yes."

@Stand Up The converse to your 'vasectomy' argument is this: "Don't like pregnancy? Then get your tubes tied." One-sided and short-sighted.
And I'm not telling women what they can and can't do with their bodies. I asked if it was too much to ask that women practice safe sex or abstain altogether if they don't wish to bear children. Evidently--at least as far as *you're* concerned--the answer is, "Yes."

@Dudley Hughbanks hang on, you were talking about abortion two minutes ago. Make you mind up, you just derailed the conversation.

Austin Stewart They should read the definition of cells before stating “it’s just a clump of cells” argument. It’s pointless trying to engage them in any type of debate unfortunately.

@Stand Up So-called "stealthing" would no doubt constitute rape in this day and age, and rightfully so. That being said, a woman can get an IUD, or take birth control, or practice abstinence. She has agency. She shares responsibility when it comes to consensual sex, and preventing pregnancy if she does not wish to conceive is up to her.

Have sex with people you trust and practice safe sex, or don't have sex. It is that simple. No argument will ever free men, or women, of the responsibility that comes along with sex.

@Missy Rivas A 24 week old fetus can be born prematurely and survive. Alternatively, it can be legally aborted. How do you make heads or tails of that?

Is it too much to ask that women who do not wish to bear children practice safe sex or abstinence?

@Rick Caldas no, clearly Shanann did it and then smothered herself

@Rick Caldas no, clearly Shanann did it and then smothered herself

Mark of CAIN   RIGHT!?!  Evil personified.

Mark of CAIN   RIGHT!?!  Evil personified.

@Juanita Flores Cabrera they woke up from the first attempt and he killed them again in his truck. The older daughter watched it all happen and knew she was next. It breaks my heart.

@Baselia Caliga A fetus is a human child, whether you like it or not.

@Baselia Caliga A fetus is a human child, whether you like it or not.

@S E he placed their blanket over their faces so he didn't have to look at them how sick 😓💔

@S E he placed their blanket over their faces so he didn't have to look at them how sick 😓💔

@Nitromethane Uh, why didn't Jesus protect them in life?

@Nitromethane Uh, why didn't Jesus protect them in life?

Realistically, abortion is abandoning the potential of having or raising a kid. So about estranged fathers...

Realistically, abortion is abandoning the potential of having or raising a kid. So about estranged fathers...

Missy Rivas how is it not alive, are cells not alive now, we can just kill babies based on them not being fully formed even though they are living.

@Matthias Thulman a fetus has the POTENTIAL to become a child...that does not a child make. A person in med school has the potential to become a Dr, but is not a Dr. A fetus can not maintain it's own life independent of a person therefore is not a person.

@anityy I guess that is just your opinion. We can do this all day

@anityy I guess that is just your opinion. We can do this all day

@Baselia Caliga a fetus will become a child, you have no right to stop that process. And neither does the pitiful excuse of a woman that volunteered for the "procedure"

@Matthias Thulman Fetus is not a child, therefore, getting rid of it is a medical procedure, not a murder. And even if it was, so what, are you mad there aren't more unwanted children laying on the streets or being abused in foster care, becoming future serial killers in making?

My God, please protect them in heaven. In Jesus name. Amen.

 That is horrendous.

My God, please protect them in heaven. In Jesus name. Amen.

 That is horrendous.

@anityy abortion is a crime. Stop deflecting, and admit that its murder

@anityy abortion is a crime. Stop deflecting, and admit that its murder

@Matthias Thulman Then you simply don't know the definition of murder. It's weak to start about a whole different subject that has nothing to do with torture or crime.

@Matthias Thulman If you look worldwide, men of all races, sexuality, color, commit the same heinous crimes, whereas women do it way and way less, despite race or religion. So it is a male problem really. Not religion, nor race.

@Brandon Turrell Good joke bro, statistics don't lie though. Not every man is a killer, but most killers are male. ;)

@Brandon Turrell Good joke bro, statistics don't lie though. Not every man is a killer, but most killers are male. ;)

I. Wynn Wynn absolutely not. “Most males” are level headed people.  They do not kill their whole families. I know just about as many female killers as male killers. You can not make such a baseless accusation.

@S E You can imagine it you just typed it out on youtube lmao.

@S E You can imagine it you just typed it out on youtube lmao.

Mark, she did and her last words were 'no daddy, please' ...according to new prison interview done by these same FBI agents.  Once u listen to part of that interview and hear the confession then come back and listen to this one.

I love how he starts to cry alot after the interrogators had mention to him that he's not as emotional as he should be lmao good actor

Mark of CAIN that’s right, I believe the older child had marks inside of her mouth which means she tried to fight back. Poor little girl... ☹

I can't imagine holding my child down, smothering her and seeing the light go out of her eyes. That is horror. Absolute horror.

I can't imagine holding my child down, smothering her and seeing the light go out of her eyes. That is horror. Absolute horror.

@M Gal you do realize shannan didnt kill them, it was him that smothered both girls...

@M Gal you do realize shannan didnt kill them, it was him that smothered both girls...

There were many tiny scratches on ShaNann’s face, perhaps wounds from Bella fighting back.

There were many tiny scratches on ShaNann’s face, perhaps wounds from Bella fighting back.

@Kasidy Segovia that's horrible, i don't even get sad over that, just fucking mad. how heartless can a human being be

@Kasidy Segovia that's horrible, i don't even get sad over that, just fucking mad. how heartless can a human being be

Yes she bit through her tongue multiple times,  and tore the frenulum on her upper lip. Poor child, I can't fathom the terror she must've felt at that moment.


He actually didn't kill his daughters at the house. He killed his wife there, put her in the back floorboard of his truck, then had his daughters ride along in the back seat with their mother's dead body. Once he was at the oil site he then smothered both his daughters and dumped them in the oil tank as well as buried his wife's body. He is literally one of the most cold blooded and vile criminals there is.

@courgette Lol no worries. I think how YouTube handles these things changed again. I've been getting notices whenever anyone posts in a thread I posted it...sometimes. It gets confusing.

@Ocrilat Excuse me, usually Youtube notifies me only about answers to my own posts, but for a reason I don't know I've been notified of your comment even if you did not responded to me. Not aware of that I answered and tagged you thinking you were responding to an exchange I had previously.

@courgette Sorry, but what part are you referring to? It just says me on the thread but not which one of my posts. The part about the argument about the divorce just before he murdered her? I'm not sure. Thanks.

@Ocrilat That's what he said years after, having nothing to lose, yes. It's your freedom to fall for it.

Well, let's be clear. He smothered his two tiny daughters, one at a time. While brutally murdering one, the other was there, probably not understanding what was happening to her sister, or what was going to happen to her next. They were probably terrified and in agony while it happened...and he did it to cover up brutally murdering his unsuspecting and pregnant wife. He murdered his wife because getting a divorce was too much trouble. That's what kind of monster he is.

@carlwinslo Ok. I still value more the DA summing up the findings of a police investigation than a murderer having nothing to lose lying, but it does cast a little doubt.

@courgette Also why would you believe a DA? Even if they are on what you consider "the right side" of the law doesnt mean they arent lawyers. Lawyers get paid to lie for a living. But yea what you are saying the DA said was during the trial to get a conviction. Motive. Chris is a liar but i see no reason for him to lie after being convicted,sentenced, and appeal denied. The confession he wrote to his pen pal in prison is even more gruesomely detailed but i cant bring myself to read it. It was hard enough having to go back and listen to that video you wanted a source on.

@10th letter District Attorney. As shown in the video I posted in my comment. You know, a source.

@courgette Defense Attorney? Have you seen them ever try to get their client off they make up the most insane things.

@carlwinslo I would consider starting to believe it if you had any kind of source. But even then, I would value more what the DA says than the convict.

@courgette The "Daddy No" comes DIRECTLY from Chris' confession that he made in prison after he had been sentenced and had no reason to lie. I dont see why anyone would lie about the things he confessed to. If prisoners heard exactly how he did it im pretty sure they would torture him to death. Its some cold shit.

@Miss Vlad American Murder on Netflix is a documentary that details this case in more in depth. Worth the watch.

@TaterTotsNFanta I understand what you were saying. However, He wrote a letter to Cheryln Cadle talking about how he actually killed the girls twice. He claimed that he was getting close to God so he wanted to reveal the truth to everyone on how he did things. Cheryln had been interviewing Chris by writing letters back and forth to him for her book that she was to write. This all went on after this interview that you're watching. <br>He said that he had strangled the girls in their bedroom, but it didn't work. The girls woke up. It's horrible the way he describes the details of what happened.

@TaterTotsNFanta I understand what you were saying. However, He wrote a letter to Cheryln Cadle talking about how he actually killed the girls twice. He claimed that he was getting close to God so he wanted to reveal the truth to everyone on how he did things. Cheryln had been interviewing Chris by writing letters back and forth to him for her book that she was to write. This all went on after this interview that you're watching.
He said that he had strangled the girls in their bedroom, but it didn't work. The girls woke up. It's horrible the way he describes the details of what happened.

Bella said "daddy, no!" while being murdered

@Muirmaiden "a small shadow walks up to him and he puts it in the truck"  This sentence just made me equally pissed off and sad at the same time.

@Shelle42 If you watch the outdoor footage, he puts the girls in the truck while they are alive ( a small shadow walks up to him and he puts it in the truck).

@Elizabeth C W the kids were alive when Chris drove to the oil rig. According to Chris confession, he said that he had the girls with a blanket over their heads and walked into the rig

@Shelle42 Ah, I noticed during the interrogation when first he said that his wife had smothered the girls, then the next time he mentioned it said that she'd choked them. He was actually telling the truth, except for the fact that it was him who'd done it. To him, those babies were expendable.


Mom always said she was a nasty evil person…?!?! 😳


Gotta love the, " Reid Technique." Gotta love the," Sniffles on Cue Technique, " even more.


"Well we gotta get a lawyer..." <br>I think its to late for that now.

"Well we gotta get a lawyer..."
I think its to late for that now.

Such a strange response when you've just learnt your grandchildren have been killed.


It was so smart to have the polygrapher take the lead in the interrogation. She comes off as the "horse girl" of polygraph testing - don't even think about dissing her test...


Detective: This is not the last chapter in anyone's story.

The next chapter in Chris's story: "My Life in Prison as a Child Murderer"


It's crazy they do these same tactics to people who are innocent


They really sat on him not having shed one tear and used it tactfully.


Could you imagine having an affair with some husband, only to learn that he killed his entire family to try and be with you?  Even if he did succeed, doubt she'd want anything to do with him after that.


I really feel bad for chris dad :( you know hes hoing through hell with him


Detective Tammy gave him an idea and He Ran with it " .... Chris thought he HAD the perfect plan....      NOT  !!!  <br>Detective Work at thier BEST !!!

Detective Tammy gave him an idea and He Ran with it " .... Chris thought he HAD the perfect plan....      NOT  !!!
Detective Work at thier BEST !!!


imagine if this guy pleaded the fifth all the way to court


Detectives skills are amazing takes a special kind of person


He never mentions Niko. Not even in passing. Even when he mentions the fact that Shannan was pregnant, he flies past it like it was just another one of her medical conditions. Worst liar caught on tape.


"I LOVED those girls" always hits so hard. He literally says it past tense :(

@Brett Cooper I definitely don't hear that everywhere I go 🙄🤣🤣


26:28 Am I the only one who heared a whisper "Oh God, how do they know?"


Now show one where the detectives get thier ass handed to them mentally by an anomalous evil intelligence that simply is impervious to accusations. Pretty sure those exist too.


it annoys me so much that once she says that he hasnt cried once he started to cry immediately


What was Chris's father's reaction when he found out the truth


Him: I didn’t kill my wife.

Detective:

Him: Okay I killed her, alright!


There are no proper words in the dictionary to describe this man.......


Chris: I didn’t do it
Detectives: Ego up technique
Chris: I didn’t do it
Detectives: Fear up technique
Chris: I didn’t do it
Detectives: Dossier technique
Chris: I didn’t do it
Detectives: Futility technique
Chris: I didn’t do it
Detectives: Alternative question
Chris: OH ALRIGHT FFS!!!


I have watched movies, read books and hear about interrogation techniques, but this two interrogators… both of them are on a whole different Level….


“this is not the last chapter of anyones life” yeah, until you get sentenced for a triple homicide lol


The thing that frustrates me the most is just how fucking spineless this “man” is. Rather than face his family head on and talk to them, bring them the bad news that he was leaving them to spend his life with another woman, he took the cowards way out. He killed them rather than going through the proper process because he was too weak. Killing them was the easy way out for him. Disgusting

Not only that … the guy pinned his daughters demise on his wife… who he also murdered smh


It made me laugh how quickly they re-enter the room after hearing 'lawyer'.


I can just hear the "WHOA THERE WHOA THERE WHOA THERE" and panicked rushing from the detectives room when the word "lawyer" was heard


He killed something what others would die for to protect


What’s messed up is they do the same tactics to innocent people as well.


"This isnt the Last chapter in anyones story", except it is, for Chris. Those persuasion tecniques are scary 😎🥴


Always get a lawyer! Never talk to police alone! Especially if they CALLED YOU INTO THE STATION!!!


This is why you get a lawyer,he didn't know he could just have walked out .


I hope he hears "Daddy, No!" all day, every day for the rest if his life.


If someone accused me of killing my kids and I was innocent I would be freaking out non-stop


I have to go to sleep but this series is so good!


Coder has a great voice.  I could listen to him read a phone book.

OMg right! I tried finding other stuff jes said or done on line just to listen to him hit coke find anything <br>I’m curious about him too

OMg right! I tried finding other stuff jes said or done on line just to listen to him hit coke find anything
I’m curious about him too


The father comforting his son thinking he was truly crying for the death of his children is just so sad. I can't imagine what it's like to know your son murdered his wife and children.

i have told my kids since birth, you can BE anything you want to be, you can GO anywhere you want to go, but you will NOT be a criminal in prison for a crime that involves harming someone else.

@Sgt. Horvath if that ever happened to me, i would look back at every single wrong thing i did to my child and partially blame myself for what he had become. although the father was also pretty terrible so it's not a surprise that his son is, too, and worse.

Chris killed his two little granddaughters. I would be so distraught, angry, sad, disappointed. It’s so sad.

@Frappa Canu yeah I would too, but I'd never blame myself. There was no apparent parental mistake In his upbringing (that we know of) so him becoming a monster was a calculated decision he made knowing the consequences.

@Sgt. Horvath so true. But I would feel so guilty for having failed at raising that person. I'd have a true existential crisis.

He's no longer my son.. at that moment he became inmate 956854 lol


i like how the lady was super friendly but as soon as the polygraph ended, she was threatening. Lol


He killed something that a lot of men would kill for.


I hate how detectives talk to the suspect like they a little kid. There’s not a lot of intelligence in what they say and Chris is even dumber for responding to them the way he dis


That cold stare in the pause technique where the detectives are so in sync 😩😩


Chris is implementing the "Sniff" tactic. It's used to fool the interrogators into thinking you're sad after they've just expressed concern that you haven't cried for your missing family.

The stupidity about the use of this tactic here is that he started using it AS SOON as the polygraph lady told him he hasn't shed a single tear for his family.

Such a stupid thing to do it’s so obvious

@bebebebota11 it actually has a deep psychological effect where you give the interrogators a giant boost in confidence, which you will crush later

@bebebebota11 nah it’s actually the most convincing tactic


"Within 10 seconds of the word lawyer the detectives reenter the room" <br>LMAO

"Within 10 seconds of the word lawyer the detectives reenter the room"
LMAO


If the detective knew what he did to the little girl's deceased bodies, 26:52, he would have left it at "monster."


Chris's dad may have raised a cold hearted killer but he damn sure didn't raise no liar🤷


Chris is a shitty human being but remember to always get a lawyer. You seen how fast they panicked when the dad was talking about it. That actually made me laugh.


The investigator lady is absolutely brilliant.<br>She showed empathy to Chris and lured him to confess.

The investigator lady is absolutely brilliant.
She showed empathy to Chris and lured him to confess.

The dad did that. The lady just predisposed him tightly.


I watched this a second time and its still great.


"why did this happen to me?... why did this happen to those little girls?"
hes so emotionless he cant even feign empathy for HIS little girls.

"why did this happen to me?... why did this happen to *those* little girls?"
hes so emotionless he cant even feign empathy for *HIS* little girls.


Murder is hard to prove. If there are no bodies it can’t be classified as murder anyway, it would have gone down as an abduction or missing persons case. Had he lawyered up immediately he might still be walking around. I’m fairly certain they would have found the deceased fairly quickly as that’s the 1st place I would have looked. Unless he reburied them.


Interrogator: "Chris, you haven't shed a tear at all these past 2 days"

2 seconds later...

Chris: fake sobbing "I didn't do anything." wipes eyes

Interrogator: "Chris, you haven't shed a tear at all these past 2 days"

2 seconds later...

Chris: *fake sobbing* "I didn't do anything." *wipes eyes*


He killed his daughters at the burial site, he drove with them alive in a car for an hour (with mother's body at their feet) and never changed his mind..think about that...

@Ray Dolph the only opinion in this matter that matters is that of the family of the victims. Some random dude on the internet talking about how Watts will be given second chance is just plain distasteful.

@SuprM so you are disgusted at the idea of the lord forgiving this man, and even go so far as to attack the man for believing in such a thing, and then mention that the family of the victim forgave him?

@Joe Public Yes he was definitely broken. Yet I'm pretty sure there's that commandment about "Though shall not MURDER". Chris is a monster and nothing will change that. No suppose salvation will change what happened. He's sick and he always has been. This didn't just happen. No matter how broken someone is, it's never an excuse to murder. He deserves no sympathy.

He probably never had the intention of killing them, then changed his mind Last minute? I don't get your statement...

@Joe Public but he doesn't. You have to be repentant for a second chance. This man had/has no remorse whatsoever.

@isKarm but don't you think that it is quite extraordinary how the rules of deep past still control people in the 21st century? People still die for it.

no offense but all religion are bs.....just a scheme to control people in old times

@Joe Public
Then you must also believe in the 10 commandments and
Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not kill
That's only 2 of the 10 he broke. If there is a heaven then there surely is a hell as well.
I believe he will be going to the latter

@kalidileriousActually there's a video where they analyze the shadows when he's packing the truck and you can see he's picking up one of the girls running towards him.

@Joe Public Unfortunately, he will not be getting that

@SuprM gentlemen calm down... religion is what we make of it.

@Fio Mori who the hell are you to tell me to "rethink my faith"?!?!?

@SuprM gods love is not unconditional, that is why there is hell. and if you read the Bible you know he is more than comfortable letting the monstrous who walk away from the path not just of his light but of decency and his fellow man in evil to hell.

rethink your faith if it makes your response to this crime on God and his gift to give mercy as though you are god to this man with no thought to his repentance.

@Joe Public if you believe in God, then you must believe that God planned to have 3 innocent people killed brutally and without mercy. Shame on you! Watts was forgiven by Shannan's family, he didn't deserve that, and certainly nothing more

And no one thinks of how broken he is. Yes, he committed a heinous crime, but he was obviously broken long before this happened.

I’m excited to think Yeshua Hamashiach (Jesus the Christ) allows everyone a second chance.

His life was over at that point. He should've had the decency to turn around and let his babies live their lives but he's a selfish asshole.


lmao they had no evidence with the polygraph and he legit told on himself, because they were great investigators, the lady did her job well!


i can garuntee that the grandfather loved his grandkids more than chris ever did


oh god the fact he lied to his dad 2 times i can’t watch this he’s literally lied so many times and like he was trying to fool the detectives lmao

𝕄𝕣 𝔽𝕒𝕙𝕣𝕖𝕟𝕙𝕖𝕚𝕥


İs he confessing to his dad without knowing that room is being recorded... Funny the way he tells he killed her at a quite tone.


Detective: "why didn't you cry in two days here?"
Dude: starts crying

Detective: "why didn't you cry in two days here?"
Dude: *starts crying*

@Tech not exactly evidence but definitely some type of character example

Chris: Sniffles one time<br>Also Chris: stops 💀

Chris: Sniffles one time
Also Chris: stops 💀

Shit i knew I was forgetting something. Can we start over?

@K Jeezy he tried to say something to that effect but they shut him down pretty quick

Bro should’ve kept not crying and said it’s because he believes they’re still alive 😂

@Tech yeah but how they use it sometimes is so confusing

@No_Name well it was part of their tactic. I could be used as evidence though

Honestly I think shedding a tear is not evidence because you can shed a tear and still lie while doing it


Why is nobody talking about how stressful this video is to watch


Now that I'm watching this back, his dad had SUPER weird reactions... He was way too understanding and reserved for what he just heard. The reaction could be looked at as shock... But same thing as Chris during those interviews and stuff. Then the dad was immediately concerned with the consequences like his son being in jail and on the news... Super selfish and weird priorities, just like Chris 😳

I dunno, he seems pretty genuine, if reserved. People react to stress in different ways. He seems like the kind that will hold it in. I was more interested that Chris said his mother called Shannan evil. I wonder how much his mom reinforced his selfish desires throughout his life. And how much the dad already thought maybe his son was kind of a selfish prick already.

Seems the disgusting apple didn’t fall too far from the tree

Yeah I thought the same he seemed to relaxed about hearing the news he was more concerned with Chris consequences than his dead grandchildren


It's how he latches on to the scenario the detectives give him that his wife did it that does it for me. First he trys it out on his dad, dad falls for it hook line & sinker. So he goes with it. How dumb can you be?!


Dam, she’s good but her posture is making my back hurt.


Chris' Dad: This ain't gonna be on the news or anything?
Detective: No, no, of course not.
Youtube: over 6 million views

Chris' Dad: This ain't gonna be on the news or anything?
Detective: No, no, of course not.
Youtube: *over 6 million views*

I think he meant will he be able to tell his family or will they see it on the news

@Vintagebleu exactly, but it doesn’t mean it won’t be tomorrow or after.

@Steve Carroll <br>Yes.. Chris Watts: Confessions Of A Killer

@Steve Carroll
Yes.. Chris Watts: Confessions Of A Killer

@Justin Williams international. Watching from Australian 🇦🇺

There is even a very successful documentary about it on netflix.

Ahahahahah some things never change no matter what

@Epoch of An Era Execpt this family is precisely when “narcissist” should be used. Like, textbook. Why you trolling for Watts & co?

The apple does not fall far from the tree!!

@Epoch of An Era  his father was trying to get him out of the whole situation with saying he would get him a lawyer and that he would get him out of all of that stuff

@Grogu I wasn't. I was just calling out people who tend to overuse and purposefully misuse the word "narcissist" to stroke their own ego, which ironically is a narcissistic behavior. Anyway, what does his family have to do with the murders?

@Epoch of An Era  why are you trying to defend a MURDERS family?

@Martin Oh yeah, I just realized. If I'm gonna be as petty, I can diagnose him with nArCiSsiSt based on that.

@Epoch of An Era and has a nickname "ourcorrect opinions", too

He said right away and she said no, not tonight.  I think he was asking to make sure he would be able to tell his wife and family before they saw it on the news or a neighbor did and told them.

@ourcorrect opinions yes, gotta love internet diagnosis 🤦♂

Can’t forget about the Netflix documentary 🤣

@Kajsa - this. He said, “soon.” The OP obviously left that out to make his joke work.

Detective said something like, 'no, no... Not Tonight..' lol

Um, I think he said "anytime soon". Probably so he could tell the family that the son is a murderer before they find out through the news.

Lol it was/is a hugely notorious national news story

Dad’s main concern: are we gonna look bad soon? (narcissist dad, mum, son) Throw them all away.

It was all over the news when it happened too haha


He got owned by these investigators … he should have realised sooner that they were onto him and lawyered up … but he was so convinced he was going to be able to talk himself out of this … his narcissism got the better of him in the end …


he's not too emotionally bright, the polygrapher played him like a child. and the first thing he worries about after the cops leave the room is going to prison. clearly a sociopath.


Everybody’s a killer if you push em far enough. God bless those investigators and detectives, Rest In Peace baby girls.


The way he just pinned the murders of the children on his dead wife. The dead wife that HE killed. It's so messed up.

@SokaDropEmOff He was the one that killed them all

@Pulling The strings true i thought he was the one who killed them but it was the wife thats a damn shame

He should get less time because he didn't kill those girls.

i do not understand how he is a whole ass father kill his two daughters and his unborn baby on the fucking way its so messed up ong

I don't think he was thinking of them as the persons they were. Just, "the wife" and "the kids". So it's not a far stretch that he'd try to have any combination thereof take the fall, so he can be free of the consequences.

It is really messed up, that is why he was later convinced to clear her name and he did. May she and her children Rest In Peace.

True mark of a coward. 🙁 I can’t stop thinking about those baby girls last moments.  He should get the death penalty if anyone should. Selfish coward waste of space.

And we’re forgetting she was 15 weeks pregnant

They gave him away to weasel out and he totally fell for it.

He only did that bec the detectives put it in his head. He is too stupid and a bad liar to come up with that by himself


My sources tell me he is in protective custody because he killed 3 children .


"This is not the last chapter in anyone's story." Uh, the book is pretty closed for Shannan, CeCe, and Bella, but Chris isn't thinking about them, is he, doesn't correct the police at all. Just worried about himself.


How incredibly smart these people are just too good


It all started with "what pretending to be crazy looks like " and now I just feel wounded for life.

I love how savage they are with their burns in wrath of jodi

My first JCS was the Legend of Jeff and I still come back hoping for more….it’s been about 6 months which means another is likely dropping soon 🤗💜

Seems like a new guy has just followed all of you guys... I've just become so numb right now that I'm unable to even think about anything other than these two cases...😰😰 How could people be so bad to their own families????😣😱

@Jack Napier for me Chris Watts case was the most horrific.. this poor woman and her three babies didn't deserve it. I cry every time I remember them.. and the fact that he is still alive and well is repulsive!

Me too. That was the first recommended video as well, and now here we are.

I've been here since this video came out, he's an amazing creator.

Thats how he got me to man, god damn JCS

I check this channel like the Sneakers App even though Im subscribed and have notifications on. We share youre pain

Took same path. I think I already watched more than 10 stories, some of them in several parts. I’m so fascinated with how they do the the interrogations.

We all have Benn play by the YT algorithm. Should make you think.

Same here.  Been watching since last night.

Bruh no cap, I went through the same spiral 😂


Not gonna lie. If you kill someone with malicious intent, family or not, you are disowned and disgraced


I'm so mad that he would insisted that she snuffed them out. No. I'm certain that he only wanted to get rid of shanaan but one of his girls saw mommy "sleeping" and he didn't want to leave any witnesses.


Chris’s dad is a good fucking dad man. Fuck everyone saying “I can’t believe his parents still support him even finding out he killed his kids”

Do you not see the irony in that? Chris’s dad is obviously supportive and loving. Chris’s dad is everything Chris should have been to his own kids.

If Chris had been that sort of man to his kids this wouldn’t have happened.


He didn’t start saying “my kids” until he could use them as an excuse for his behavior. He didn’t start crying until someone said it was weird that he hadn’t. Anyone that throws their kids in a vat the way he did doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He thought he could get away with it, that’s why he tried to lie. Despicable


A polygraph test is by no means unchallangeable in court... even the fact that he took it ... I mean, when police is targeting you, they would be wasting their time if you were innocent, I wouldn't even take a test if I was innocent just out of the fear that it could frame me for something I didn't do.

Exactly, my professor told us at his previous jobs someone stole money from the workplace. Once the company found out, they made the employees take a polygraph test. The one who stole the money passed the polygraph test. However an innocent guy failed the test and was fired from the job


So his mom claimed his wife was evil and spoke nasty things about his life…. But her son killed his wife and his own kids wow


The female interrogator says chicks are crazy and gets him to take the bait of putting it on his wife knowing his kind loves to blame the victim. She played this idiot like a fiddle.


In case anyone is wondering, he was sentenced to five life sentences without the possibility of parole. (This includes 48 years for the termination of the pregnancy, and 36 years for the disposal of the victims).

@Alexander X With all the red tape and protocol around a legal execution, it costs the state less to put them in a cell for life. This is one reason prisons are running out of room.

@James Davis so the man can forcefully get the woman pregnant even if she doesn’t want to ? 🤔 Or isn’t prepared or stable or healthy ? I’m not saying that it’s not taking a life because it is. The problem is that the same rules do not apply to men.

@James Davis which is shitty, but at the end of the day it’s her body. It should be both of the parents decision. but the mother is the one who has to carry it for 9 months and give birth and nurture it.

@seafoam and the mom can do it without the father's consent.

But if his wife went and aborted that baby by herself, she would have been applauded.

@kuri having empathy for women that kills babies in cold blood is like having empathy for the guy in the video, you don’t know what was his emotions he could have really suffered RIIIIGHHHT?

@Ruth Rodriguez we dont talk about your body, you can mutilate yourself all day long, we dont care. We are talking about your babies, different DNA, different person. Now you know and you came to meet the truth and you trying to humanise the atrocities some women do. Yes, what this guy did is horrible and is different to some extent, but abortion is killing nonetheless but these days nothing is shocking me.

48 years sentence for terminating a pregnancy?
Pro Choice activists: starts sweating

48 years sentence for terminating a pregnancy?
Pro Choice activists: *starts sweating*

@seafoam Yeah seriously….you can’t murder the unborn child without the mother’s consent like come on!?! What was that guy thinking. pfffftt shhh pfffft <b>*Sarcasm alert*</b>

@seafoam Yeah seriously….you can’t murder the unborn child without the mother’s consent like come on!?! What was that guy thinking. pfffftt shhh pfffft **Sarcasm alert**

@Arturo Garcia he was supposed to get death penalty but Shannan's family didn't want any more deaths

@seafoam  we keep the babies comfortable

@seafoam  we keep the babies comfortable

@Michael Keymont absolutely not the same and considering the circumstances women are being faced in some states now a days , that’s a very shitty response 🙄 It’s our choice what we choose to do with our bodies not a mans choice! Last time I checked WE are the ones pushing out the babies not a man. So for him to take a life and also make that decision for someone else he got what he deserved !

@Michael Keymont we're not talking about abortion here, like wtf? This man murdered his two young children and his pregnant wife.

@Karol I thought the same at first, but he got life sentences for the actual murders, 48 years for the termination of the pregnancy, and 30 some years just for the disposal of the bodies (not the murders)

@Karol no, he recieved a life sentence for each person he killed.  Life sentence=end of his life,  5 times over. If he lives to a decent age,  the life sentence will be longer

when him terminating a pregnancy gets him more than killing his wife? what. (Tell me if I misread/misunderstood the sentence)

@Michael Keymont u can’t terminate someone else’s pregnancy without their consent…

@Alexander X let’s not pretend the money is the problem here. We’re paying for prisons to do their job. It’s only infuriating when they’re using it to imprison innocent people for their own financial gain.

@Horatio Guevara cost too much taxpayer money. A 5.56 round is less than a dollar. Plus a few dollars for water and bleach clean up. Way more humane and cost effective.

@Horatio Guevara op is demanding the death penalty

@Michael Keymont but chris did it without the mother’s consent, with planned parenthood the mother gives her full consent. not the same thing

48 years for terminating the pregnancy.

People do the exact same thing every single day at Planned Parenthood and they go get an ice coffee when they’re done. No regrets.

Can you link to a news story or where you learned this?


"you haven't shed a single tear"

"Ohh true, let me give that a try"


That cop in the corner is amazing.  He had ME thinking I did it.


I promise you I was not seeing anyone behind my wife’s back. I cheated on her.


10:46 Detective: 'You havent shed a tear'
Watts sniffs like he is crying
Detective: 'Oh  Ok . I was wrong there'


Everything they do is a technique! The silence technique, the scratching technique, coughing technique... jesus, these mind gymnastics.

I'm using both The Snacking and Lying down technique. They really work wonders.

@Noble Clark right like why didn't he at any point ask for a lawyer? What would the harm be?  thinks if he promises them that he didn't do it they're just going to move on?!  You're the primary suspect. At this point there's no changing that so you got to lawyer up. I'm sure initially he didn't want to draw suspicion but that cats out of the bag when he walks in to take a polygraph.

Who knows he may have been acquitted although I doubt it because he's such an idiot

Yeah. Sort of like when you're writing literature - - every sentence serves a purpose. Advance plot, build character. Here, every question,  pause and stare is well-considered and careful. It's fascinating to watch.

@OxAdam that's taking the technique jokes too far

it would be cool to have the best techniques and counter techniques in everything

The stinky fart technique is quite strong

The main technique is the fatigue technique; they make you mentally exhausted after hours of interrogation and hundreds of questions till you can no longer take it and decide that confession is the easiest way out of that situation. The whole thing is a psychological trap.

You gotta be pretty smart to be a detective

@Andrew LaPointe That right there is a technique. By having lots of techniques, it makes it impossible for anyone to study up on and learn all of them or even half of them before interrogations.

I am exhausted just learning about all the techniques

The diet mt dew technique, the hide forgotten cord behind the tissues technique , the double pause technique 🤪

Even if you know the techniques theyll just keep drilling you until you fatigue. Everyone cracks.

I now Will use my Shadow clone technique!

@Eric Plut he was allowed to leave until he confessed, I think

@True Reaper45 God forbid they use the existing technique on you...

The breathing technique is the one you gotta watch out for

If you’re not allowed to leave, repeat lawyer and plug your ears

The going to the bathroom to pee and forgetting to zip up afterwards technique.


I feel awful for the father. He had to listen to his son confess to murder.

Chris' dad Ronnie is the enabler of toxic narcissist mom Cindy Watts, who never liked Shannan "taking her son away from her" and had tried to kill Cece before.

I felt really weird during that part, he was just sitting there listen to his son say all that crap about Shannan killing the girls, believed him immediately, without a question, suggested that they should hire a lawyer, said he would do it, so supportive...and then... Kaboom.

Nope, I don't feel bad. The dad was secretly happy. Both him and his wife hated Shanaan.

His father was actually key to the entire investigation. If the detectives hadn't brought in an emotional relief like someone Chris trusted, i.e. his father, Chris might have gotten more and more frustrated with the situation and completely shut down. Instead, they strategically wore him down mentally then brought in the emotional relief he needed to start to get the confession.

@awesomeferret yes the unpardonable sin is to deny the Holy Ghost that does not mean all other sins are forgiven without repentance, he has to do a lot if he wants to return and live with god again although he will most likely be free from hell and will be resurrected thanks to the atonement of Jesus Christ

@awesomeferret 18 And now, behold, I speak unto the church. Thou shalt not kill; and he that kills shall not have forgiveness in this world, nor in the world to come.

@Burning pile not according to pretty much every major religion. And since sin is a religious concept, well...?

@Lynne I agree with some of the others, the father is foolish and in denial, but you know what else is foolish and in denial: claiming that the father showed no emotion. Good luck explaining how a guy that you could see having his heart break in real time was showing "no emotion".

Chris father he is amazing wow that m surprised he was more then a detective

and the only thing he was worried about was if its going to end up in news? lol.

@Burning pile those were specific civil laws for the nation of Israel.  And there are some good arguments for us to still enforce the death penalty today, and some against it.  But that isn't what we are talking about here.  The question is, does God forgive murderers at the final judgement?  And yes they are if they are covered with the blood of Christ by grace through faith, which if they truly believe, will go hand in hand with repentance.  Now, the verse you quoted was detailing the punishment for murder in the Mosaic Law.  What does Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, say about The Lord's final judgement for murder?
“You have heard that the ancients were told, ‘You shall not commit murder ’ and ‘Whoever commits murder shall be   liable to the court.’  But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘ You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.

Matthew 5:21-22

Have you ever been angry at your brethren?  Or called someone good-for-nothing?  Or fool?  I know I have.  Jesus Christ teaches that those are crimes worthy of eternal hell.  I don't know about you but in that case I desperately need a Savior for my soul just as bad as Chris Watts does.  And thanks be to God, He provided one in His Son, Jesus Christ, who died for the sins of the world, and rose bodily on the third day, and who sits on the throne of Heaven, and who will return to judge the world.  Trust in Jesus the Messiah and repent.
And it shall be that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved .’

Acts 2:21

@Burning pile ok, go on... Which part of scripture or which selections of scripture clearly demonstrate that doctrine?

Matthew 12:31. "Threrefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven"

There are dozens of verses which state that Jesus died for "the sins" of the world.  Unless you can provide scriptural evidence that murder is not included in "the sins" of the world, then the doctine of salvation is very clear:  repent of your sins and trust in Christ as Lord and Savior and you will be saved.

@Burning pile what are you basing this on?

@Lynne I’d give the type of tone like, “I’m not angry just unbearably disappointed”

@Twilight I agree ~ I took to Ronnie too. Word is he and Shannan liked each other a lot, unlike his wife who detested her from the get go.

@globalcitizenn Sad thing is Ronnie actually got along well with Shannan ~ they liked each other, but Mama despised her and she ran the family. Thus, no show at their son's wedding ! ~ and no show at Cece's final birthday party.

@milZ1 Ronnie wasnt as open about it as cindy and i actually dont think Ronnie truly hated her and he was probably devastated by the loss of his grandkids, he just looks like someone who is kind of a doormat, i feel sorry for him actually.

however i have no sympathy for cindy she is a effin bitch and i do hate her but i cant feel anything other than sympathy for Ronnie because i do like him in a "poor old man" kind of way, i have a very big weakness for old men with beards cause they all remind me of my grandpa so maybe thats why i feel like this.

no matter what i cant do anything but like his dad because i can kind of see thedevastation of loosing his kid and grandkids. Family is all that matters in the long run
Shannan was not family but bella and cece was and i have no doubt in my mind that ronnie loved them

@globalcitizenn preach that truth and facts 🙌🏽 their calls/visits recorded, I’ve heard that family and it’s disturbing

Muhammad Durrani murder is an unforgivable sin

I was expecting him to tell his son to repent. The only thing left for him to do.

I got no sympathy for him and his mum. They HATED Shannan. Tried to break them apart, didn't attend the wedding, to this day they say it was a bad mistake hurting the kids but never mention Shannan. They still hate her and feel no sympathy. They actually BLAME Shannan for driving their son to this!

He didn’t confess to a murder to his father.. he confessed to a crime of passion with the understandable reason that the much hated daughter in law killed their grandchildren. Made himself an avenging hero and his father bought it all & felt sorry for his poor, noble, railroaded son who just made a human mistake in a justifiable situation. They still believe Shannan killed the kids to this day. They blame Shannan.

He couldn't even grasp what he said at first ..
"I killed her"
"You hurt her"

😩That's sad...

"Good God Almighty son...." I felt like he was praying for him after this when he reached out and held his arm..
His dad probably felt crushed at this point in time ....but the fact that he's telling half the truth by incorporating other lies would have completely shuttered me💔💔

@Watch me doge <br>We are talking about a surreal situation... One in probably 50 millions.

@Watch me doge
We are talking about a surreal situation... One in probably 50 millions.

@Watch me doge
Honestly, past the level of killing... I would be numb if my son would add he killed my grandchildren.
Of course, this is an unimaginable situation so I'm only trying to understand...

Joseph Henri Lucien Denys True but I think he would elicit an response due to the fact they are defenseless kids and he is an overpowering adult. Obviously killing the wife is bad, but she’s an adult and has the right to fight back, those kids don’t.

@Watch me doge
Don't think so.
Once he confessed to his dad killing Shannan, then his dad was numb. Anything more wouldn't have made any difference.

If you thought that was bad, imagine if he was there when Chris confessed to killing his 2 daughters as well. He may have fainted.

@Paige Van Dorn <br>Chris' dad was in an unthinkable and unfathomable position

@Paige Van Dorn
Chris' dad was in an unthinkable and unfathomable position

Yes, Chris' father was wonderful in listening and keeping calm with his son

I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone bring that up yet


Knowing the outcome....these two police officers rock. They broke him in less than 9 hours. What a horrific person. Textbook narcissistic sociopath. Unbelievable. Sickening.

@Kangoshi I'm sure she wouldn't be the first sociopathic individual that has worked for law enforcement. 😂😅

@Juanita Richards that's why it's not allowed in court......no matter how skillful the operator is! You seem to have a hard time accepting this. The courts , who are on the side of law enforcement, don't accept it.  Police lie!!!!

@Hubster Becoz it depends on the skill and training of the operator, and how up to date the equipment is. I saw a documentary on this and when used correctly there is no such thing as an inconclusive result.

@Juanita Richards If they're so reliable why don't courts recognize them? Why are cops allowed to lie all the time! Bad combination! Once you walk into a police station don't believe anything!

@Hubster I've seen hundreds of suspects eliminated......family members, ex;s etc. And with no other evidence against them the cops were free to look at fresh suspects.  If they were so unreliable why do many guilty suspects avoid taking them? Scott Peterson for one.

@Juanita Richards it can't eliminate suspects, it's not proven legal, never take one. The result doesn't go into court, how do you know they are telling you the truth about the results? Cops are given the green light to lie, anytime anywhere!

@Hubster Or his answers can be used to open new lines of inquiry.....a polygraph is a tool which has many uses.  It can also eliminate suspects so they can then look elsewhere.   They should have asked him about any accomplices.........and if anyone else was in the house that night.....

@Juanita Richards either that or he didn't have to, they wouldn't stop looking at him just because he passed one. They're only interested in you failing.

@Rusti Fowler It really is prove you're innocent instead of innocent until proven guilty

@Sophia Arias Dont hate, it's a brilliant work of art

@wingsken sucks. thats actually a pretty shitty weakness

Primitive Aliens i have to think about a lie and my face turns red as a beet. My bodylanguage and face expression stay the same. I can lie like the best, but my redness always gives me away. So i dont lie and tell the truth even if its brutal.

@Stone Age Alienz Nah, guilty psychopaths are generally just as likely to fail polygraph tests as guilty non-psychopaths.  I understand your reasoning, but it doesn't work out that way functionally.  In the first place, there's a lot of controversy in the validity of polygraph testing; polygraphs have been argued to involve a great deal of placebo in performing well.  But Anti-Social Personality Disorder - and more specifically in that disorder a lack of empathy - do not have a strong correlation to the ability to perform better in polygraph testing.  Lying in general is a skill trait that does not come out of a lack of empathy.

@Stone Age Alienz Exactly that was the old distinction. Makes sense that it's a mixture of both like with most predispositions. Well thanks for the clarification.

@Lazarus from what i remember from going to a convention years ago (don't ask) they're synonymes but psychologists mostly just use psychopath. The distinction made in the past was about psychopathy being genetic and sociopathy being social (duh ;) ) but they discovered that it's always a mixture of both. Source: trust me dude.

@Stone Age Alienz I agree that it is redundant and now i fail to see where we disagree here except that sociopath is outdated. So it's just psychopath now? Wasn't there a distinction between people basically born with psychopathy and completely impulse driven and no sense of what could be seen as right or wrong which usually leads to them being in jail early on and people that developed psychopathy with impulse control that are mostly undiscovered with a certain sense of what society perceives to be right and wrong adapting to it. A former distinction between sociopath and psychopath was something like that but then it got back to it being the same.

Lazarus you really need to read more carefully. Sociopath is an outdated term. Narcissist isn’t. However because narcissism is part of being a psychopath calling somebody a narcissistic psychopath is redundant. Obviously you can be a narcissist without being a psychopath.

@Stone Age Alienz While i agree that comments with armchair psychology are stupid and at this point even annoying but narcissist is not an outdated term and it is definitely not just a symptom of psychopathy as not all psychopaths are narcissists and narcissists exist without crossing in to psychopathy.<br>I agree that he shows psychopathic traits and may not be a full blown one but i really don't see him failing some test, being a bad liar and being afraid of getting put in prison as something that excludes him from psychopathy.

@Stone Age Alienz While i agree that comments with armchair psychology are stupid and at this point even annoying but narcissist is not an outdated term and it is definitely not just a symptom of psychopathy as not all psychopaths are narcissists and narcissists exist without crossing in to psychopathy.
I agree that he shows psychopathic traits and may not be a full blown one but i really don't see him failing some test, being a bad liar and being afraid of getting put in prison as something that excludes him from psychopathy.

Lazarus Lazarus yes it does. One of the reasons we get nervous is because we have empathy. We can understand and/or wonder how the other person sees us and how they might look at us if we are lying. Yes other factors play a role but this man wasn’t a psychopath. Of course i can’t be a 100% sure but i’m fairly certain. But To say “textbook narcissistic sociopath” is just wrong and redundant on so many levels The term sociopath is outdated. Narcissism is a symptom of being a psychopath anyway and by no criteria is this man a “textbook” psychopath. He may share some traits but that’s it. In the end he’s just a human being that did something terrible. People want to use terms like psychopath to pretend this couldn’t be any of us. Well we all are capable of being monsters you don’t have to be a psychopath to be one and doing terrible things doesn’t automatically make you a psychopath.

@Stone Age Alienz Their lack of empathy doesn't really mean anything when it comes to that test as other factors come in to play. He can be a terrible liar, a nervous mess and other things while lacking empathy. It really depends on the questions asked.

Juanita Richards first of all sociopath and psychopaths are the same thing. There was a distinction back in the day when they thought with psychopaths it’s genetics and sociopaths where formed by there environment. However modern psychology discovered that you always need both that’s why nowadays in academic circles we only use the word psychopaths to describe the condition. <br>What do you think a psychopath is if you think they could fail a polygraph test? Like what makes a psychopath a psychopath in your eyes?

Juanita Richards first of all sociopath and psychopaths are the same thing. There was a distinction back in the day when they thought with psychopaths it’s genetics and sociopaths where formed by there environment. However modern psychology discovered that you always need both that’s why nowadays in academic circles we only use the word psychopaths to describe the condition.
What do you think a psychopath is if you think they could fail a polygraph test? Like what makes a psychopath a psychopath in your eyes?

Lazarus it’s not about being a genius. It’s about not having normal empathy. Their body doesn’t react like ours does when they are telling a lie. They can incriminate themself by saying stupid shit but you don’t need a lie detector for that. The lie detector measures how our body reacts to us telling a lie. The body of a psychopath doesn’t react because he doesn’t feel bad because he lacks the empathy. That’s what i was talking about. Nothing to do with being a genius or not

@Kangoshi It did. She said so in an interview.

@Stone Age Alienz Sociopaths and psychopaths DO fail polygraphs, which is why Scott Peterson refused to take one.

Rusti Fowler Exactly! Talking to the police does you no good, they aren’t your friends and don’t want to help you, all they want is a confession to put in a case file to give to the court and make the prosecutions job that much simpler. Even if you’re guilty but ESPECIALLY if you’re innocent, keep your mouth shut and request a lawyer

And she's able to pet him on his back knowing that he's guilty. I wonder if it makes her sick, at least a little.

@Tom Cole Definitely. I was arrested about five years ago over something relatively minor and after making me sit in a room for about 4 hours, some "nice" detective came in, offered me food, and wanted to talk to me. He just wanted to "hear my side of things." I simply declined and asked to speak with a lawyer. He became indignant and said that now he couldn't "help me" and I just laughed.  The charges were dropped shortly after. I actually hadn't done anything but if I had started talking and trying to "explain my innocence" there's no telling what would have happened.

Imagine if he was innocent however. It's not hard to see how these same strategies can and do get false confessions.

@Stone Age Alienz Exactly! Or they wouldn't be in there to begin with.

sociopath is the wrong word cause that's  the kind of people that wouldn't fail the test. Sociopath =/= Bad person. There are a lot of sociopaths that live a normal life and never hurt anybody. They just have a mental condition they have to learn to live with.


Psychology is a scary tool. Reminds me of how easy we are to manipulate.

I remember being questioned about a murder a few years ago. The mental gymnastics that they were playing left me feeling completely drained at end! And I was completely innocent 🤣😪

@Hartlei's Vanity lol people are making their own conscious decisions, it’s called persuasion...

@Awkward Autistic
I'm aware of the distinction.

But it's school guidance counselors who makes that sort of recommendation to the psychiatrist though.

Let's not pretend that it's only people with severe ADHD that go through this.
There are outlying cases for everything, but the US has a clear problem with overmedicating it's population, while pharmaceuticals and people like the Sackler family rake in billions.

The goal is just to make the child's behavior more desirable, in the cheapest and easiest way possible.  Which is partly understandable, because school funding is a joke.

The consequence is that these prescriptions can permanently alter a developing mind and predispose individuals to substance abuse later in life.

Psychologists think it's a good idea to low dose children with amphetamines.

Let's not give them too much credit.

@trapez77 what’s so scary about hypno is that something inescapable?

You never know when they're going to use the dossier technique or ego technique at you😂

As a big sports fan, I keep beating the drum that psychology plays a bigger role in sports than we currently know. Why? Because it plays a huge role in every aspect of human life. Mark my words, one day psychology will openly be a big part of sports. Pro teams will have psychological strategists and advisors and the whole deal. Just posting this for posterity decades ahead of time

oh yeah, a lot of things go on beyond what we see in life

I studied it (and pr) in school and i hate it LOL creeps me out and makes me upset watching things like commercials. Like almost every company just manipulates people and preys on their weaknesses to make money its so annoying like just let people make their own decisions

Lukeor.. the thought of being manipulated really sucks doesn’t it… that horrible feeling will go if you send me some money…

What's this we shit. Now excuse me, just saw a McDonald's commercial and now I'm hungry

@Intagen Gaming it’s not that hard as long as u don’t feel bad abt your lie or what you did the machine won’t rly pick it up a bunch of guilty ppl are able to pass it

If you think psychology is scary wait until you learn about hypnotism

It’s scary seeing how just normal these detectives look, but inside they could digest your entire character within seconds, creepy but intriguing shit man. Like you would think that these geniuses would look distinguishable like a professor, but no, not at all.

You are i get a lawyer for parking tickets.