The friend is the unappreciated hero of this story. She didn’t know whether or not her friend might need her for the doctor’s appointment, but she just showed up even though they’d just come back from a business trip at 2am. 🥺

The neighbor is the unappreciated hero. He called it from the get

The neighbor is the unappreciated hero. He called it from the get

@Annie B - I wonder why the ceiling fan was on high when police arrived…was the carpet by the bed damp from him cleaning?

NA definitely is but Little Bella is the real hero here she fought this bastard till her last breath

@A K you should redirect your anger at failed parents, not your neighbour

@Jasper&Clyde inSD aw sounds like emotional security makes you feel threatened. it's okay to admit you need a friend, stop projecting

@justlilguys This applies to dating, too. If they can’t even make time to give you a reason why they aren’t responding to you, then don’t continue the relationship, it’s not going to be a good healthy one.

@Jhon Famo Very good and wise advice!  Thank you Jhon!  🌸🌸

@Jhon Famo Very good and wise advice!  Thank you Jhon!  🌸🌸

Which hurts all the more that her anxiety was well-founded. I hope she's managing her loss well.

"unappreciated"?! The comment sections on nearly every Chris Watts video is full of people saying what an incredible job she did. Shes definitely appreciated.

Seriously, there's a decent chance he could have gotten away with it if not for her. He didn't even get to come home and clean up before police got there thanks to her. If she didn't have a friend like that, Chris could have had days, maybe even weeks to cover his tracks and think up a story. Instead he was brought in hours after burying them

Type of friend that will stick her nose in every corner of ur life, pretty annoying.

@Aleksandar Ivanov  Or in fewer words: Living vicariously

@Aleksandar Ivanov  Or in fewer words: Living vicariously

I think we all appreciate her role in all of it , but there is no prize for being a good friend. You don't get money for that or worldwide recognition.

@Mass Ferguson That is a great friend and all but also that's super risky. Hopefully you're not currently in a depressive episode. Tell her that if you or anyone else are again to please call and ask for a social worker to do a wellness check.

I would want someone like her around she was real supportive of her

I would want someone like her around she was real supportive of her

I have a friend who has broken into two of my apartments when I would go into a depressive funk and stop talking to people or doing anything.  She learned to pick locks and everything.

Just a little too late to save them, sadly. Poor woman. She probably lives with that thought

@ConsciousProphit that's a negative ghost rider.

@ConsciousProphit that's a negative ghost rider.

she probably sensed sth wasn't alright and pulled up

she probably sensed sth wasn't alright and pulled up

@Charlotte 💯 she knew the relationship was not going well

@Charlotte 💯 she knew the relationship was not going well

The friend was supposed to accompany her to her doctors appointment that morning but shannan never showed up so that’s why she went over to her house .

she now has cancer, which is heartbreaking🥺but without her as shanaans friend, i believe it would have been a lot harder to solve

@Annie B I agree. The rest of the house was spotless. So that unmade bed stuck out like a sore thumb.

I feel like she knew he was a weirdo hence her alarmed state immediately.

Same with the neighbour he knew bbe man was fulla b.s fron the jump.

Even his dad kinda knew summit was up.

moms and girls are the real deal... bless them all

moms and girls are the real deal... bless them all

pretty red not trying to be a jerk, but just have to ask the obvious question: why did god wait until a woman and her kids were dead to start intervening? Why not send someone a message sooner or more urgently? Why give the guy time to desecrate the bodies in such a way? I don’t believe in any gods, and I’m not trying to change your view, but do you have a good answer for those questions?

Juan Gonzalez Lol, rather than stopping a murder he provides a woman suspicion. Sounds completely like something a useless nothing would do.

Haha seriously, he was totally boned the moment she showed up immediately that day

Finally and well said. If not for her  his own mom would've  'helped ' explain her(Shanan) 'disappearance'.

Jasper&Clyde inSD 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

Jasper&Clyde inSD 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

Her friend is amazing.  Who knows how long this would have dragged out if it wasn't for her friend checking on her.  And the neighbor was so observant and helpful.  They had already solved the case before cops got involved.

@Jhon Famo aw...this is so true. Thanks for writing it 💕🙋🏻♀

@Jhon Famo aw...this is so true. Thanks for writing it 💕🙋🏻♀

Probably knew her husband was abusive...

Probably knew her husband was abusive...

@Aninda Ahsan He didn't have time to straighten out the master bedroom. Had the ceiling fan on high and the bed stripped. That alone was extremely suspicious.

That friend was almost frantic, Chris was about as worried as I am when I can't find the garden hose.

Yes. And the neighbor with the surveillance camera & how he told the police about his suspicions about how Chris was acting, he was awesome.

Frfr! I totally agree with you. God sent her a message and she acted on it. God will use you and he did that with her! That's a real friend💯✔

It was amazing that she started the search on the very day, in a few hours tbh. If Chris got a couple days, he wouldve been more prepared

Yeah she’s an unsung hero and she obviously knew something was up by the way she was glaring at Chris when he let the police into his house

Jhon Famo She reminds me of my wife. She would be that person.

Jhon Famo She reminds me of my wife. She would be that person.

I've got one friend like that. We met first day of kindergarten, became besties, and even lived together for a couple of years after college. She literally saved my life by noticing that my breathing patterns were off several mornings when she woke me for coffee before work. Ekg showed that my heart rhythm was <b>way</b> off, to the point that it likely would have become fatal.

I've got one friend like that. We met first day of kindergarten, became besties, and even lived together for a couple of years after college. She literally saved my life by noticing that my breathing patterns were off several mornings when she woke me for coffee before work. Ekg showed that my heart rhythm was *way* off, to the point that it likely would have become fatal.

Yep, she wanted to know where best friend disappeared to..

Yep, she wanted to know where best friend disappeared to..

@Jasper&Clyde inSD yes I do and I have. No space for your like tho.

@Jasper&Clyde inSD yes I do and I have. No space for your like tho.

Aleksandar Ivano Awww somebody needs a fwend.

Aleksandar Ivano Awww somebody needs a fwend.

Or just needs some life in her semblance of life, so latches on to people living their lives.

If you are looking for friends like that. Be that friend. It will be taxing at times but you will run into people, some time down the road, that will be that pal. 🐦 s of a feather


It’s so mind blowing how he didn’t ask for a lawyer once. He agreed to do a polygraph (which are inadmissible in court) and didn’t ask for a lawyer. He basically gave them a free confession. Mind blowing.

He probably couldve gotten away with it if he wouldve simply asked for a lawyer he pretty much did the easy part for them

He probably couldve gotten away with it if he wouldve simply asked for a lawyer he pretty much did the easy part for them

@le uno well THANK god he wasn't that smart enough to plan all those details

@le uno well THANK god he wasn't that smart enough to plan all those details

@The.holisticdietitian i mean, a lawyer probably would’ve made his interrogation a little less abrasive for him, but the glaring evidence and the undeniable stupidity that he showed whilst committing the crime would most likely make this a slam dunk for the jury at trial anyway- i mean, what kind of idiot unenrols his children from school quite literally the day after he kills them, and to the world they go missing? what kind of idiot (although, all murderers are idiots in some respect) would dump the bodies of his own family that have been presumed dead where he himself worked?

so if he asked for a lawyer, he could've gotten away with this ?! 😨 scary to think if he walked free

so if he asked for a lawyer, he could've gotten away with this ?! 😨 scary to think if he walked free

full props to the polygraph technician, she got under his skin within the first 5 minutes of the polygraph.

full props to the polygraph technician, she got under his skin within the first 5 minutes of the polygraph.

@Kanye Breast you’re a Kanye stan, I do not think your opinion on anything matters

@Kanye Breast you’re a Kanye stan, I do not think your opinion on anything matters

You aren't very bright are you? They are admissible in 26 states in America. Over half.

You aren't very bright are you? They are admissible in 26 states in America. Over half.

@Lagg Because it’s literally stated in the first 2 minutes of the video

@Lagg Because it’s literally stated in the first 2 minutes of the video

@Doc I’m not pissed lol but people shouldn’t talk to the police without a lawyer present

@Doc I’m not pissed lol but people shouldn’t talk to the police without a lawyer present

why you sound pissed about that ? that's great, lawyers are pest

why you sound pissed about that ? that's great, lawyers are pest

Evil and stupid, I'll take it over evil and smart any day.

Evil and stupid, I'll take it over evil and smart any day.

He was clearly at fault. But the moment you start being investigated and read your Miranda rights the first thing you should do is call and Attorney. We all now know that he did those horrible things to his children and wife. Call the police, call an ambulance, and then call an attorney. He didn’t do any of that. He even let the next-door neighbors come into the home to investigate it seems like the next-door neighbors were doing more work then the investigators.

@Lagg you don’t have to be a genius to know polygraphs aren’t admissible in court.

@Lagg you don’t have to be a genius to know polygraphs aren’t admissible in court.

@Darkstar 1999 He’s not under arrest. Don’t you know the US law? Greetings from Stockholm, Sweden!

@Darkstar 1999 He’s not under arrest. Don’t you know the US law? Greetings from Stockholm, Sweden!

@ChiefinASmith ok. Maybe he thought not asking a lawyer made him look less suspicious? He thought he figured it all out. Most psychopath/ killers tends to have this over confidence trait till they hang themselves

@Tohuto I’m not showing care. I’m just wondering why he didn’t ask for a lawyer

@Tohuto I’m not showing care. I’m just wondering why he didn’t ask for a lawyer

Chris was being cheap and over confident. He called the school to withdraw the girls the morning he killed Shanann so as to not be charged for the week. He had high hopes he was going to lie his way out.

Why show care for murderers.?? If he is innocent it's ok. But i feel happy when these murderers think they got it all under control and seal their fate themselves. Hahahahah

Why show care for murderers.?? If he is innocent it's ok. But i feel happy when these murderers think they got it all under control and seal their fate themselves. Hahahahah

@Lagg Where everyone learned it. Movies.

@Lagg Where everyone learned it. Movies.

@Lagg § 8.01-418.2. Evidence of polygraph examination inadmissible in any proceeding.

@Lagg § 8.01-418.2. Evidence of polygraph examination inadmissible in any proceeding.

i wonder if there was anyway he could talk to his dad too in private not on camera. surely they cant prevent him from seeing his dad.

i wonder if there was anyway he could talk to his dad too in private not on camera. surely they cant prevent him from seeing his dad.

@Lagg i learned that polygraphs are not admissible in court from every crime show i've ever watched, if you've ever watched the ID channel or any youtube crime documentary, then u should know this, as well as always ask for a lawyer

They also very specifically keep the idea of a lawyer out of his head so he has no defense.

They also very specifically keep the idea of a lawyer out of his head so he has no defense.

@CounterGriefZombies “tank” you? His kids went into tanks. :(

@CounterGriefZombies “tank” you? His kids went into tanks. :(

@Celeste Young free in the sense that he confessed quickly and didn’t ask for a lawyer

@Celeste Young free in the sense that he confessed quickly and didn’t ask for a lawyer

Not free, the detectives worked VERY hard to get that confession

Not free, the detectives worked VERY hard to get that confession

@PolySciWhy? There are many intelligent people who are bad at speaking.

@PolySciWhy? There are many intelligent people who are bad at speaking.

He was too busy being in flight mode in his iwn head. He was not in a state of thinking clearly

He was too busy being in flight mode in his iwn head. He was not in a state of thinking clearly

@Copious Doinks LLC. absolutely. & when they say “yes,” you leave lmao

@Copious Doinks LLC. absolutely. & when they say “yes,” you leave lmao

If there's anything that this video has taught me, it's that I should constantly ask "am I free to leave" any time I'm interrogated.

If there's anything that this video has taught me, it's that I should constantly ask "am I free to leave" any time I'm interrogated.

@Lagg My guy JCS says that in the previous video on the same subject, it’s something he brings up several times in the video

@Lagg My guy JCS says that in the previous video on the same subject, it’s something he brings up several times in the video

@Manatee obsessed weirdo agreed! I am happy he was stupid, but that doesn’t change the fact that everyone needs to lawyer up

@Manatee obsessed weirdo agreed! I am happy he was stupid, but that doesn’t change the fact that everyone needs to lawyer up

Agree. Don’t get me wrong, he deserves every second of punishment he has earned for himself for the heinous act he committed, and I’m so grateful he saved ShanAnn, Bella, and Cece’s family and friends the trauma of sitting through a trial. That said, strictly speaking from Chris’s perspective, he was a tremendous idiot for agreeing to the polygraph and interview. If there is one life lesson to be gleaned from JCS videos, it is that you should never talk to the police! Hire an attorney right away.

Lol that’s what happens when u are guilty if he wasn’t guilty he would have thought of getting a lawyer before even talking to them but he was to worried about getting caught up

Lol that’s what happens when u are guilty if he wasn’t guilty he would have thought of getting a lawyer before even talking to them but he was to worried about getting caught up

Asking for a lawyer is something people consider as “guilty” behavior even though it’s a constitutional right and can’t be used against you

Asking for a lawyer is something people consider as “guilty” behavior even though it’s a constitutional right and can’t be used against you

He is cocky and believes he is invincible. Omg how does he not get a lawyer!

He is cocky and believes he is invincible. Omg how does he not get a lawyer!

Lol. He was so mentally fatigued, run down, with so much anxiety, he basically gave up his freedom just to get out of that situation/Room. Amazing job Tammy and Graham did. I applause them👏👏👏

Lol. He was so mentally fatigued, run down, with so much anxiety, he basically gave up his freedom just to get out of that situation/Room. Amazing job Tammy and Graham did. I applause them👏👏👏

@Jux Tanner actually, no. if he were innocent the most likely scenario would be that his wife took the kids, in which case it would be very sensible to lawyer up, especially if she was as awful as he claimed. if you were actually worried that they were dead, lawyering up asap is also sensible from an 'innocent' perspective since a lawyer would know how to communicate the pertinent details of your statement while discouraging the cops from dialling down on a dead end, ie you. the cops would be forced to consider other leads because you havent given them a potentially easy out. so even if you're innocent, when your family disappears, its most helpful to everyone to lawyer tf up. this is why we need to normalize it and undo the perception that its like tv where anytime someone asks for their lawyer it means they must be guilty and are using the rules to stifle honest police work. it doesnt matter if youre scared and sad for your family, the cops will still waste time grilling you because youre statistically more likely to be involved, and are therefore an easy get. using your rights and helping the investigation are not at odds with each other. i don't mean to be aggressive this is just my perspective.

@EJ Leo lol like police and prosecutors are perfect. You are delusional.

@EJ Leo lol like police and prosecutors are perfect. You are delusional.

@Kelly Williamson yeah I agree. I think he would’ve gotten away with his story of Shannan killing the girls though.

@Kelly Williamson yeah I agree. I think he would’ve gotten away with his story of Shannan killing the girls though.

If he had clammed up right from the start and gotten a lawyer I think they still would have eventually nailed him.

If he had clammed up right from the start and gotten a lawyer I think they still would have eventually nailed him.

what part of "anything you say can and will be used against you" didn't you get from the Miranda rights, m8? everything you say, regardless of whether it's a polygraph or not will be used against you.

what part of "anything you say can and will be used against you" didn't you get from the Miranda rights, m8? everything you say, regardless of whether it's a polygraph or not will be used against you.

If u r gonna murder some1 first learn ur rights i mean like this guy has 80 iq

If u r gonna murder some1 first learn ur rights i mean like this guy has 80 iq

@stitchedguts because the conversation was about not asking for a lawyer. Somebody said that it was a good thing that he didn’t ask for a lawyer because he was guilty. I said that’s true, but they use these same tactics on innocent people as well and that’s why everyone should ask for a lawyer

@ChiefinASmith I don't understand why you are bringing up a hypothetical innocent man into this. I'm not trying to be rude I'm just trying to understand what you mean and why you were upset.

@ChiefinASmith I don't understand why you are bringing up a hypothetical innocent man into this. I'm not trying to be rude I'm just trying to understand what you mean and why you were upset.

@Darkstar 1999 I’m sure they read it too him before they started asking questions

@Darkstar 1999 I’m sure they read it too him before they started asking questions

No, it’s really not, though the police may disagree. As one would expect.

No, it’s really not, though the police may disagree. As one would expect.

When exactly did they give him his Miranda warning? When they slapped the cuffs on him or did that come earlier?

When exactly did they give him his Miranda warning? When they slapped the cuffs on him or did that come earlier?

@Avocado You could have edited and not mentioned it, nobody would have known. That was pretty dub.😏

@Avocado You could have edited and not mentioned it, nobody would have known. That was pretty dub.😏

yeah, he's clearly pretty dumb. I mean, he literally killed his whole family just because he loved another woman????? That is STUPID. Just divorce, if you have to. Good grief<br>(edit: I misspelled "dumb" as "dub," so I guess I have nothing to say💀)

yeah, he's clearly pretty dumb. I mean, he literally killed his whole family just because he loved another woman????? That is STUPID. Just divorce, if you have to. Good grief
(edit: I misspelled "dumb" as "dub," so I guess I have nothing to say💀)

@Winona Gumshoe I think he was expecting more time. I don't think he expected his wifes friend to come round the very next day, so early. He wouldn't have had the time to get rid of her stuff i.e Shoes, Keys, phone, medications before calling the police himself and putting his story across. It was forced on him and he was caught out

That surprised me too...but he wasn't a bright criminal and thankfully most criminals aren't. He didn't even try to give himself an alibi...nothing. They always look at the spouse first...either he didn't premeditate it or he was the stupidest guy ever.

He's narcissistic and thought he was smarter than he is. Thought he could play the game. If he asks for a lawyer, in his eyes, that's the move of a guilty person

He's narcissistic and thought he was smarter than he is. Thought he could play the game. If he asks for a lawyer, in his eyes, that's the move of a guilty person

Yea he's not very bright. Didnt ask for a lawyer and didnt exercise his right to silence

Yea he's not very bright. Didnt ask for a lawyer and didnt exercise his right to silence

@Doom-Driven EAP I truly don’t believe it was his ego. I think, in his mind, asking for a lawyer would be an admission of guilt. Especially since he actually was guilty.

@Doom-Driven EAP I truly don’t believe it was his ego. I think, in his mind, asking for a lawyer would be an admission of guilt. Especially since he actually was guilty.

That's how huge his ego is, he thinks he can lie to the FBI LOL

That's how huge his ego is, he thinks he can lie to the FBI LOL

@Lagg i mean yeah if they revealed that it would make it much harder for them to solve cases so it's understandable

@Lagg i mean yeah if they revealed that it would make it much harder for them to solve cases so it's understandable

@Preetichhanda Mohapatra he definitely did but even if he didn’t, you can get a state appointed attorney for free

@Preetichhanda Mohapatra he definitely did but even if he didn’t, you can get a state appointed attorney for free

He did not have money to afford a lawyer may be

He did not have money to afford a lawyer may be

@Jux Tanner oh for sure. But you should ask for a lawyer as soon as you feel a shift in the interview. There’s a difference between being at the police station and giving them information and sitting in an interrogation room being asked if you’d be willing to take a polygraph, you know?

@EJ Leo tell me you don’t understand what lawyers do without telling me

@EJ Leo tell me you don’t understand what lawyers do without telling me

@Courtney k exactly. People are okay with it in this situation because he was guilty but they forget that they also use these techniques on innocent people

@Courtney k exactly. People are okay with it in this situation because he was guilty but they forget that they also use these techniques on innocent people

@Duck sparrow mybe l8 night I mean asking for a lawyer doesn’t prove anything.

@Duck sparrow mybe l8 night I mean asking for a lawyer doesn’t prove anything.

These videos make me angry because they manipulate people into this, especially people that are innocent.

These videos make me angry because they manipulate people into this, especially people that are innocent.

but like, he had like, everything under control, like, he just needs to lie, I mean how hard can that, like, be?

but like, he had like, everything under control, like, he just needs to lie, I mean how hard can that, like, be?

@ChiefinASmith i agree that it is unwise to give them all sorts of information without a lawyer, because they might use it against you. But an innocent man also has to think about the state of his wife or daughters are in. It would also be unwise to wait to not give the police the information they need to find your family. Especially when you dont know whats happened to them and every second that passes increases the possibility of them being gone forever. Most innocent people in this situation would probably not think about protecting themselves and would want their families found as soon as possible.

He was so caught up in his lie he forgot to think

He was so caught up in his lie he forgot to think

@Queen Ashley idk if I believe that. Any person with a shred of empathy/care for others would understand a non guilty, guilt stricken parent would be emotional/defensive at someone accusing you of being responsible for the pain you feel. That you might act illogical/emotional with questions/situations involving your children. He answered as if he was engaging in small talk or a new guy asking how his job works.  Idk what you're getting at with "people assume they can pass if they just answer as robotically as possible as quickly as possible" that just doesn't make sense

Him and guys like him assume they can pass and that if they follow what the cops want that it will help them look like they aren’t guilty

Him and guys like him assume they can pass and that if they follow what the cops want that it will help them look like they aren’t guilty

Agreeable people can murder people lol. Just because he's a passive person doesn't mean he's not capable of murder. Evil isn't only done by evil people...

Agreeable people can murder people lol. Just because he's a passive person doesn't mean he's not capable of murder. Evil isn't only done by evil people...

@ChiefinASmith I agree about not talking even if you're innocent. They're not there to help you.

@ChiefinASmith I agree about not talking even if you're innocent. They're not there to help you.

The psychology of the dynamic between interrogator and suspect is pretty fascinating. People generally know and understand that they have a right to a lawyer and are under no obligation whatsoever to give the police a single word, yet so many people still engage and dig themselves into a lawyerless confession.

I was on the receiving end of an interrogation once -- not for anything heinous, a white-collar crime involving corporate finance -- and I can tell you the way the cops sat me down and spoke to me, for a second or two I honestly thought I could just explain my way out of it and everything would be fine. It's very weird how they set it up so you're actually seeking their approval.

It took a LOT of willpower for me to end the conversation with them and simply say that I will not be giving a statement and need my lawyer immediately. After that their friendly demeanor changed completely. They handcuffed me to the chair I was in, told me I was in really 'deep shit' now because they were planning to go easy on me at first, and left me alone in the interrogation room for almost two hours before moving me into a holding cell.

My exact words were "I'm sorry guys, I can't give you any kind of statement. I need my lawyer. I know he already called to inform you that I had legal counsel. I can't speak to you without him present." And that was that.

It was the smartest thing I ever did, because I walked out of there free and clear the following day, and the charges never went anywhere. The officers did, however, fabricate a fake statement that they claimed I gave them.

@Lagg hence why you need a lawyer even if you're innocent, you don't know those things so consult someone who does. But this creep was a narcissist and probably thought he'd get away with it.

@Lagg hence why you need a lawyer even if you're innocent, you don't know those things so consult someone who does. But this creep was a narcissist and probably thought he'd get away with it.

Yes,  I agree,.. I was a registered psychiatric nurse prior to retiring and I think it's a combination of his denial of reality, and his narcissism that kept him from requesting council.

Yes,  I agree,.. I was a registered psychiatric nurse prior to retiring and I think it's a combination of his denial of reality, and his narcissism that kept him from requesting council.

@M A I don’t think he agreed because of his ego. I think he agreed because he was trying so hard to come off as innocent and his mind, denying the polygraph would raise questions.

@M A I don’t think he agreed because of his ego. I think he agreed because he was trying so hard to come off as innocent and his mind, denying the polygraph would raise questions.

@Celery Man there are also lawyers who prosecute guilty criminals. So I'm confused why you hate them as a whole.

@Celery Man there are also lawyers who prosecute guilty criminals. So I'm confused why you hate them as a whole.

@EJ Leo okay but lawyers also help defend innocent people who would otherwise be convicted for a crime they didn't commit...

@EJ Leo okay but lawyers also help defend innocent people who would otherwise be convicted for a crime they didn't commit...

@Renard LeTerrible I think both of you make very fair points, just on different ends of the spectrum of assumption. YOU are more likely to trust investigators and HE is more likely to distrust them. And both are viable responses. Many investigators are stand-up individuals who wish to do good. Just as many are corrupt or ladder-climbing, and will gladly seal a case even if they aren't particularly certain their suspect is the perpetrator. Why bother saying to your opponent "you obviously know nothing" when it's a simple case of informed disagreement? This applies to both of you. But i can only tag one haha

Actually, 23 states allow polygraphs to be admitted as evidence in a trial, although it often requires the agreement of both parties. Mental Floss has a good article about it!

Actually, 23 states allow polygraphs to be admitted as evidence in a trial, although it often requires the agreement of both parties. Mental Floss has a good article about it!

I'd rather there be zero murderers, but thank goodness a lot of murderers are extremely stupid.

I'd rather there be zero murderers, but thank goodness a lot of murderers are extremely stupid.

@ChiefinASmith  i agree with you. The problem is that these same tactics are used to coerce innocent people into accepting a crime they didn't commit. They walked back in the room within 10 seconds of a lawyer being mentioned. Guilty or not, preventing a suspect from seeing a lawyer is unethical in my opinion.

@Ling Ling smart person asks for a lawyer police don't care about you or are working your self interest. You say something stupid and end up in jail even thought you are innocent.

@Ling Ling smart person asks for a lawyer police don't care about you or are working your self interest. You say something stupid and end up in jail even thought you are innocent.

Thats how you know he lives in some sort of alternate reality. I don’t think it hit him how serious this was

Thats how you know he lives in some sort of alternate reality. I don’t think it hit him how serious this was

@Berny Fox good natured!!! This man killed his entire family. Are you out of your mind? 😂😂😂

@Berny Fox good natured!!! This man killed his entire family. Are you out of your mind? 😂😂😂

was thinking the same thing. only logical conclusion is he wanted to seem innocent so bad he agreed to polygraph

was thinking the same thing. only logical conclusion is he wanted to seem innocent so bad he agreed to polygraph

He wanted to look innocent. Isn't it weird that an innocent person asks for a lawyer?

He wanted to look innocent. Isn't it weird that an innocent person asks for a lawyer?

@Menibor1 These professionals did a fantastic job working him to tease out that confession.

@Menibor1 These professionals did a fantastic job working him to tease out that confession.

@Kelly Faulkner Fully agree.  As vile a crime homicide is, this is far worse in that the lives of two young children - as well as an unborn one - were snuffed out for no reason.

Personally, I'm quite content that this monster gave himself away as he did, and greatly applaud the law enforcement specialists who deftly solicited the confession from him.  Beautifully done.

As a parent/grandparent (now raising two granddaughter ages six and seven), crimes involving children always hit me hard emotionally.  I can't help but look at the faces at my little girls and feel my insides twist.  So helpless and innocent.

Only a soulless monster could commit such a heinous act.

arrogance, plain and simple. He's probably gotten away with all kinds of stuff for being attractive and charming, and he is just so dang convinced that he will get away with this one too!

arrogance, plain and simple. He's probably gotten away with all kinds of stuff for being attractive and charming, and he is just so dang convinced that he will get away with this one too!

Yeah. He must have not been thinking clearly to A) kill his pregnant wife, unborn son and two daughters and B) talk with them without a lawyer. I genuinely want to know what disorder(s) these murderers have, diagnosed by psychologists.

@Jack Smith where did u read / see that little tid bit?

@Jack Smith where did u read / see that little tid bit?

NEVER speak without an attorney.  "Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law."

True.  NOTHING you say will be used to help you.

NEVER speak without an attorney.  "Anything you say can be used against you in a court of law."

True.  NOTHING you say will be used to help you.

@PolySciWhy? that's not necessarily true. Use of filler words doesn't indicate level of intelligence.

@PolySciWhy? that's not necessarily true. Use of filler words doesn't indicate level of intelligence.

He also thought he could get away with it. These individuals must think they can talk themselves out of going to prison. He is a narcissist. If you don't want to be with someone leave them. But for these individuals there is no other option it seems. 🤦🤷♂

He (and many other unintelligent criminals) probably assumed that asking for an attorney is suspicious and could make him “look” guilty. As a law student, this is more common than a lot of people know. But in reality asking for a lawyer is a smart move from innocent people to make sure they don’t get framed

@Renard LeTerrible you’re completely ignoring the fact that they use these tactics on innocent people and in turn, coerce them into giving a false confession. Yes, thankfully Chris was too stupid to ask for a lawyer and lead detectives to the bodies. I’m saying, if anyone is in a situation where they are being questioned by police, they need to ask for a lawyer.

@ChiefinASmith that’s the thing - the family might not know one way or the other whether he’s guilty or innocent. If it’s just a voluntary questioning of an adult, that’s the individual’s decision. If they are completely innocent or have details to help the investigation it comes down to their own morals and beliefs whether they want to aid police. If it’s an arrest then the family could advise the arrestee to ask for an attorney if they are present. However, it’s the arrestee’s choice whether to invoke their rights and remain silent and ask for legal counsel. The investigators know people lawyer up and they have to work around that by looking for other leads or digital / physical evidence. It’s natural for families to believe their loved ones are innocent or just in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s not the investigator’s fault that evidence or eye witness accounts placed a certain individual at or near a crime scene. The investigators don’t dictate these things, they just follow the leads and know that victims are expecting results. When no one talks and there is no physical evidence, people start blaming the police in general for what they can’t control.  Ignorance and false perceptions what what should and should not be done are not the detective’s concerns. Feelings getting hurt by direct questioning are not their concern. They need to find killers or potentially missing people when foul play is not confirmed.

@Renard LeTerrible okay and what if you were the family of an innocent man being interrogated for that same kidnapping?

@Renard LeTerrible okay and what if you were the family of an innocent man being interrogated for that same kidnapping?

@ChiefinASmith And you know what you are taking about, eh? This seems a little personal the way you say “they’re not there to help you.” You know who those detectives are there to help? The victims, and in this case, the missing wife and children. It’s their job to ask questions and obtain investigative leads. I agree with you that once Miranda is in effect, it’s wise to ask for a lawyer. However from the investigator’s perspective in this case - where there are exigent circumstances, i.e. the missing kids and wife whose whereabouts or welfare were unknowns, the detectives did an excellent job while still protective the defendant’s 4th amendment rights. If I were the family of the missing, where foul play was suspected, I would not be advocating for the suspect to lawyer up and make me wait months for answers. But you know better than me, so carry on.

@Renard LeTerrible yeah see that’s all fine and dandy until you realize that they use these same tactics to coerce confessions out of innocent people too. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

@ChiefinASmith yeah, they are there looking for answers to a missing wife and three kids. In this case he was being evasive and he was potentially the last one to see them alive. Screw that guy. Of course they aren’t there to help him. Don’t be naive. This isn’t like stealing a candy bar and your parents tell you to stay quiet. AND this guy voluntarily STAYED for those interviews. His Miranda rights wouldn’t have applied anyway so he couldn’t invoke them UNTIL he was a suspect AND in custody. If I were the deceased’s family, I wouldn’t care how they got the answers out of that killer.

@CounterGriefZombies exactly. They’re not there to help you

@CounterGriefZombies exactly. They’re not there to help you

Definitely stupid to not ask for a lawyer. Whether innocent or guilty you don't say shit, ask for your lawyer, and once again say nothing. It's really hard to build a case against a man who gives them nothing. If your innocent your own words are the only thing that can tank you.

@Lagg tbf i know this because i had a criminal minds phase, i’m sure true crime fans or fans of shows like criminal minds know

@Lagg tbf i know this because i had a criminal minds phase, i’m sure true crime fans or fans of shows like criminal minds know

@Dr. Drake Ramoray Yes, he could have terminated this interview and left at any time. However, I’m sure you’ll agree that having this defendant cut the bull crap and finally tell the homicide detectives what happened, i.e. NOT lying, was a way better outcome than playing games for days and weeks while the defendant’s wife and children’s missing corpses decomposed.

@Jack Smith he'll be getting plenty of that from now on!

@Jack Smith he'll be getting plenty of that from now on!

@M A that’s not the vibe I got off him at all. I think he was scared that if he didn’t agree to the test it would make the the cops more suspicious (yes his ego may have played a part)

The same reason he never asked for a lawyer even when he finally caught on they knew but he hadn’t confessed yet. Should’ve just kept his mouth shut and walked out if his ego was that good.

For the record I don’t consider this man a victim and probably made a poor choice of word when mentioning “good nature”

Being “afraid” of people, not something I have ever encountered myself being afraid yes but of people as a whole no.

Be well sir/ma’m

@Berny Fox ? How is he agreeable and a victim in your world? He consented because his ego was saying “ you can pass this test and no one will know you murdered them”.

Agreeing to one test also does not mean you’re “an agreeable person” across the board. You’re generalizing humanity and it sounds like you’re afraid of people.

Yeah I would never agree to one guilty or not guilty. It's basically a way for them to try to get you to confess. He should have just said am I free to go and they would have to said yes at that point.

And where did you learn that polygraphs are not admissible in court? I bet your house it wasn’t in school…and there’s your answer, they don’t teach the general population none of this.

And where did you learn that polygraphs are not admissible in court? I bet your house it wasn’t in school…and there’s your answer, they don’t teach the general population none of this.

He unenrolled his daughters from their school right after murdering them.

He unenrolled his daughters from their school right after murdering them.

He clearly isnt too bright. The amount of times he says “like”… irritating.

He clearly isnt too bright. The amount of times he says “like”… irritating.


Can we address the fact how perfectly executed these detective’s strategies were? Down to the point. Very impressive.

@le uno why was he bad? I get it, the interview is weird af but Mcdaniel had decided to do that way in advance. I doubt the russ Williams guy would have got him to speak

@k cringe to us, but probably music to chris’ ears. and that’s the trick of it.

@roguespinach i’ve seen ‘professionals’ be very bad at their job. ie. the detective in the stephen mcdaniel case.

absolutely...with the exception of "chicks are crazy." that remains peak cringe for me

@Kathleen Mayotte I think they were thrown off by him going catatonic all of a sudden.

Because most people think that asking for a lawyer labels them as guilty, and sometimes it is suspicious but it is your right

@Bob Gymlan seriously though, no. He would have taken his time as well.

Smyth is a legend, bit in his case, he had actual physical evidence on his guy. These detectives didn't.

@Jay Meister Yes, exactly! Thank you for explaining it because I did not want to 😂

@roguespinach Have you watched the Stephen McDaniels case? Those detectives are proof that not all professionals aren't good at their job lmao

@Nonameanymore To get their foot in the door on something that would detain him. Later, the whole hand-delivered alibi would be a provable falsehood.

Jim Smyth would be proud, though he would’ve done it faster.

most of the detectives I've seen on this channel are pros. the only ones that were bad were the southrn bumpkins who worked the McDaniels case. they were hilarious though.

The man got on my nerves in this one, and especially in the follow-up ones in Wisconsin. Like he was an oxygen thief, and monopolized the convo to the point were no one else could speak.

@Nonameanymore Ms LeForce did a great job, but if I can expand on that:

They didn't have anything on him, not did they have the bodies. That was their primary objective. If he had stood up, he could have left and slept in his own bed and the cops would have been nowhere. Admitting to the grisly acts that he did would be hard for anyone, but after tiring him out psychologically , presenting him with a Diet Coke version of the crime to grasp onto, still allows them to A keep him under arrest and more importantly, B they can find the bodies.

As JCS mentions, he already presented them with his version of events. With the bodies, the police are able to find the evidence to squash his version of events.

@Nonameanymore Ms LeForce did a great job, but if I can expand on that:

They didn't have anything on him, not did they have the bodies. *That was their primary objective.* If he had stood up, he could have left and slept in his own bed and the cops would have been nowhere. Admitting to the grisly acts that he did would be hard for anyone, but after tiring him out psychologically , presenting him with a Diet Coke version of the crime to grasp onto, still allows them to A keep him under arrest and more importantly, B *they can find the bodies.*

As JCS mentions, he already presented them with his version of events. With the bodies, the police are able to find the evidence to squash his version of events.

When they walked in right as the father mentioned the lawyer. Very skilled

They are highly competent and skilled.  Especially Tammy Lee.

Chris didn't stand a chance in the first interview, and he thinks he's gonna come in the next day and pass/bomb the polygraph? What a fool for going back into that building without a lawyer. This was a slaughter of the greatest proportion and I thoroughly enjoy it everytime.

@roguespinach a lot of professionals still do a crappy or average job

Yeah they are professionals? What did you expect?

@Nonameanymore The tactic is to try to get him to admit to a lesser severe crime. He didn’t kill his baby girls, he just helped his wife take care of it. They do this for multiple reasons, it is explained in the video.

I still can not understand why did female told him to blame everything on his former wife?

Possible due to stupid choice of no lawyer

Yeah they're both amazing. Very impressive.

I bet detectives are really good at bartering nice prices when car shopping

Right? They make a formidable team. They work together extremely well.

the male officer was so intimidating, my god, this guy must be a beast asking for discounts. "just take a deep breath, i want you to take a deep breath now"

They're heroes in my book. And Shanann's friends are also heroes.😢


I find it very interesting that when he remembers things about his girls he always recalls “annoying” things they did.  He never says that are annoying but “knocking him down with a hug” and “making him bump his head on the floor”, “throwing chicken nuggets at him at dinner”, “having to tell them to eat their dinner”. It sounds like he only remembers the annoying parts of them. How horrifying.

P.S. that interrogation team is badass!

Man…that is some great analysis. As a father myself I could never imagine bringing up things about my son that aren’t good things. But after reading your comment…holy 💩….this man was purely cold…

@King Qat right, he didn't use their names, he didn't recognise them as people, just a nuisance

Seems he used his children as workout weights too, like!

And he always says these kids, those kids. He was not emotionnally attached to them. He felt trapped by fatherhood

Man I'm seeing it now that I read your comment and damn that's...

An entirely new level of sick.

I caught that too. Sociopaths/psychopaths are bizarre.

I freaking entirely hate his guts!!!!! He’s own flesh and blood! Parents give their lives for their kids not take them away!!

I was actually thinking this you know, I found it so weird


As a father myself, I can’t even begin to fathom how a man can harm his kids. I am so protective of mine. Just the idea of something happening to them can bring tears to my eyes, and that’s not an exaggeration. I’m not even an overly emotional person, but the attachment you have to your children is unreal.

This is why this crime sort of don't get me in an emotional state, because it is SO bizarre and so incomprehensible that I cannot feel anything, it's like it's fiction. It's not like a sexual crime or a kidnap for money... This one is just... off the scale so far that I don't understand, it's impossible...

Exactly! Hell I don't have kids and I get panic attacks when I see kids playing alone or like by a road because I get so worried about their safety. I'm scared to hold a baby because of the possible chance I could harm them. How can someone just not have any of those human instincts?????

I second this. There is nothing I wouldn’t do and no sword in this world I wouldn’t fall on to keep my son safe. This man showed didn’t show how, ferociously and that may be a poor word choice, a father can love our children. I wouldn’t be rational in this situation, I’d be telling, screaming, and demanding results, I’d be in the front of search parties, not sleeping. It would be god awful, and this man was so….casual about all this.

@Caroline Park Me too.  Once, my wife and I woke up and my 9 year old son was gone from his bed.  The front door was unlocked (we always lock it).  I FLIPPED.  "CALL THE POLICE!"  Screaming his name at the top of my lungs.  Running aimlessly to and fro looking in places I had already looked in 3 times.  I was absolutely out of my mind.  I got in my car and drove around our neighborhood looking for him and screaming his name out the window - turns out he had "run away" after losing his screen privileges in a fight.  He was 9, so he didn't really mean it, and was sitting in a little park 2 blocks from our house.  It was the longest 20 minutes of my LIFE.  After I got him home with a really bad poker face, I went into my room and cried and shook uncontrollably for and hour straight (not exaggerating).  It was unbelievably traumatic for me (we tried to handle it with him as well as we could, and it hasn't repeated).  I still get teary-eyed when I think about what could have happened to him.  Worst day of my life.  And I was in the World Trade Center and made homeless on 9/11.

I am an overly emotional person and if anything ever happened to my kid I wouldn’t be consolable. Even thinking about it now I’m almost in tears. I can’t even think about it. I had a man ask me to run away with him to Mexico (he was absolutely plastered) and I said “no I can’t, I have my child and husband” and the man said “fuck your kid” so I reared back to punch him in the throat, but instead I said “no fuck you” and slammed the door which hit him in the ass.

Wouldn't go as far as calling him a "man" for one to carry out a crime like this I wouldn't even consider him "human"

Me too.
I would become crazy in defense of my child amd grandchildren
I mean Crazy.

Its amazing how that happens, isn't it?  I never wanted kids.  I told my wife when we got married I didn't want kids.  She did.  She said I'd change my mind.  One day, I'm in the grocery store behind a dad with his young son, watching the joy this little kid brought to his dad and the joy this kid had just being at the store with his daddy, and I told her, "ok, I'm ready."  I remember sitting in the hospital alone after my wife's c-section, holding my son while she got sewed up, not knowing what the hell I was doing, and looking down at his little face and thinking, oh my god, I'd lay down in traffic for you if I thought it would make your life just a tiny bit better.  I still feel that way.  I'd die a thousand painful deaths if I thought it would make my kids' lives slightly better.  I've had people tell me the don't know why Walter White did what he did in Breaking Bad - I totally get it.  Can't say I'd do differently if I thought I was dying and needed to leave something behind for my family to live on.  Children change every perspective you have.  For the better.

I do not like children and have chosen to not have them. I was told that I will want them when I’m older. I am 40 and that decision has not changed.
I am a teacher (older teenagers), and sometimes we have to have hard talks because of the lesson plan. And I get a little teary-eyed telling them that, statistically, something bad will happen to them and I’m so sorry that they will enter adulthood into a world that is as terrible as it is good. I tell them that I can only hope that learning the warning signs can help them avoid being a victim, but that life sucks and sometimes even that can’t save them.
So the idea that someone like me can feel so worried an emotional for kids that aren’t even mine because of what they MIGHT encounter as adults but Chris can MURDER HIS KIDS and have absolutely no emotional reaction? That really shows what kind of person he is. Absolutely tragic. I only hope that we can learn from his psychological issues and prevent future deaths.

Of course bro, I hate him so much, a man I don't even know. Because of what he did to his 2 year old and his 3 year old  little girls, it's hard to have any sympathy for that man.

Some people are incapable of forming attachments to anyone, whether through birth or (often traumatic) life experiences.

Amen, brother. I lose sleep imagining scenarios that could occur in which I fail to protect my family. It's a real feeling, probably the truest and deepest of them all.

@hederahelix Thanks, I appreciate that. I had a great stepdad growing up, and I guess he became a good role model for me. My own Dad worked away for months at a time, but when he was home he still had time for us and took us places. I wish I could say the same for my partners ex and his children but sadly I can't, so I do my best to compensate for that.

@North BASE UK maybe a bit unrelated but it really warms my heart to see how much love and care you have for your kids despite them not being biologically yours, I'm sure they love and appreciate you immensely. I only say this because I've had my own issues growing up with stepdad(s) so I just wanted to let you know that it's wonderful to see and I wish you all the best :)

Maybe that's because you're not a psychopath.

My partner has 4 children from a previous relationship and I'd die for every one them. I can't understand the thought process, the convincing yourself that killing your own children and wife could ever possibly be a solution to your problems. Like someone said in a previous comment I am glad he got no rest. No peace and quiet. The moment he committed these vile crimes his life simply got immeasurably worse. I find some comfort in that.

to see his raw detachment from them is insane

Nearly brings me to tears hearing about one of his daughters last words to him. Which were “daddy please don’t kill me”😭😭

Absolutely this, while I was watching this I had tears on my eyes from just imagining my kids being hurt, and what those kids must have felt while their own father did what he did to them... Absolutely horrible.

He is not a normal human being. how can anybody do this to a stranger let alone his children and wife.

I'm not even a father and I've gotten nightmares losing kids I don't even have.

Absolutely… That’s the normal reaction. I would throw myself in front of a train to save my kids, without hesitation.

Mate, my friends used to call me the robot as I had zero emotions. I've got a 2 year old now and I'm getting choked up seeing the lack of remorse he has about murdering he's 2 little girls. You hear him mention that they were blue and limp and that comment about he's own kids is upsetting me more than it is him.

I dont have kids, but i have this father-daughter type of connection to my lil sister who is 13 years younger than me. But when I think about this case, she always comes to my mind. It makes me sick.<br>He must have some kind of mental problems like how can someone kill his own liittle baby girls like wtf.

I dont have kids, but i have this father-daughter type of connection to my lil sister who is 13 years younger than me. But when I think about this case, she always comes to my mind. It makes me sick.
He must have some kind of mental problems like how can someone kill his own liittle baby girls like wtf.