Gonna take some days off from uploading since I did a whole damn season in one weekend. Hopefully give people a chance to get some resemblance of caught up. Thanks for sticking with me through it guys, I appreciate you all so much!
37:16 I had to come back to this part because I laughed so hard about what he said about Sunbrust. "Who's this guy, and why does he have special fur?" đđ
@Josh Blackwell I think season 6 is on average better then seasons 1,3 and 8. I consider all the seasons good though, even my least favorite is still a pretty good season, season 6 definitely has its highlights.
You really look tired, yeah, take a couple of days to recover and rest... and maybe you could slow the rate of your airings. maybe one per day or one by two days..
If you can react to some fanmade videos like MLP meets or fan fictions like Bride of DIscord or Daughter of DIscord and EG Friendship games... The Anthologies 3,4,5. my Kingdom for a horse 1 and 2... you have so much to watch before the season 6...
Yeah, i thought so. Let everyone keep up. Funny, because it actually is the other way around for me, because i just love to watch every reaction you upload all one after another. Im always so fast, that i even watch your reactions faster then you upload them. ^^
Yeah. I don't fully get why it has a reputation of being meh. I mean, I do think 5 and 7 both definitely have amazing stuff, but so does season 6, and both 5 and 7 has episodes I'd consider boring or even stinkers, and I don't think 6 has significantly more of those than usual...
At the beginning she was sitting in Fluttershy's chair because it's all about the Butterfly Effect. The showrunners pull a lot of little stuff like that and I love it.
I also think she did it for irony since it was Fluttershy that splashed that water on her (mainly butterfly effect, but I like to imagine Starlight was thinking about that moment)
Milena MarijanuĆĄiÄ basically a time travel theory about how a small change can cause different effects in the future kinda like what zecora said to twilight
To this day, this is my favorite villain reformation in all of MLP. Unlike previous antagonists, Starlight was never defeated. While Nightmare Moon and Sunset Shimmer both wielded powerful dark magic and were cleansed by the Elements moments before they were reformed, Starlight remained firmly in control the whole time. She had the upper hoof throughout the entire two-parter, but she was already starting to see how futile and pointless her revenge scheme was from the moment Twilight showed her one of the alternate futures, which is why she switched from smug and boastful to openly aggressive. After Twilight truly listened to her and showed her there's a better way, Starlight surrendered out of her own free will, no Orbital Friendship Cannon necessary.
Ever stop to think that the fact she could not be defeated is a plot contrivance in order to force her to be redeemed? It isn't a good story. It's lazy writing. Sunset Shimmer had the objectively best redemption despite being the least interesting villain.
In my POV, sheâs the only villain that has a friendship problem back story while other villains are just power hungry taking over the world type. Starlight just wants to create her secluded utopia or dystopia so sheâs just getting revenge on Twilight. And personally Iâve had the same friendship problem as Starlight but most people donât so thereâs a lot of disagreement in the fandom. I once lost or grew apart from my friends when they got into famous universities while I didnât. So I grew bitter and found friends who I know arenât smart or overachievers so theyâll stay with me, but I learned that I couldnât grow and improve when Iâm surrounded by people who never strive to grow and improve, I needed to grow out of my comfort zone. Starlight losing Sunburst cause he got into a fancy school because of his cutie mark so she made friends by forcing ponies to be like her. Therefore, Starlightâs friendship problem require a friendship lesson to solve not a magical laser.
Starlight had the upper hoof in the finale, twilight couldn't stop her, her only way out of this was to make starlight rethink her doings or else equestria(and starlight included) is doomed. Sunset and luna did not really have a choice, discord could be turned back to stone but twilight was the only one who could stop starlight, and with that time spell starlight had a huge advantage(although she from some point of view didn't have a choice as well once she saw the future, she was couldn't win, either she takes twilights offer or keeps fighting and destroying equestria). While this redemption was met with mixed results, it felt the most natural.
Twilights magic is really improved like ALOT since season 1. Like teleportation for example. If you look at season 1 she barley teleported, and when she did it she would struggle a lot! But now she can teleport without even trying! Her horn doesnât even have to glow she just teleports.
@Joshua Garcia 5 months late but... she really didn't believe that twilight and her friends were THAT important, and probably tired that this timeloop keeps happening also, starlight > twilight is debatable, i mean in later episodes ("A Matter of Principals") starlight literally banished discord's physical form, i have never seen anything/anyone touches discord except for the Elements of Harmony, so yea
@Star Glitter Glow if her intentions weren't to end Equestria as it was, then why does she still try to tear the spell after seeing what would happen to Equestria if she did.....
@Perytons Brainwashing and kidnapping people and using time travel to ruin peopleâs lives out of revenge is still something that deserves consequences. Just because she wasnât openly trying to be evil or destroy the world, at least not intentionally, it doesnât mean her actions were without extreme fault. Do you think if any of the Mane 6 tried to kidnap or brainwash an entire town of people that the other five would just shrug it off like nothing happened? Of course not, they would hold them accountable for their actions. They wouldnât forgive and forget without some serious work on the offending party to earn that trust again. The only person who ever holds Starlight accountable for her actions to a realistic extent is Starlight herself. She gets mad at herself for her actions and she worries that everyone will hate her for what she did, but this is completely meaningless as nobody else ever actually does stay upset with her, thereâs no one that she actually has to earn the trust of because everyone just trusts her automatically and indefinitely. I want to reiterate that I donât dislike Starlight herself, but the only times I think sheâs really handled properly is when sheâs with Trixie because Trixie is the ONLY character that actually will get upset with Starlight and stay upset. Sheâs the only character Starlight ever has to put effort into getting their forgiveness. The fact that she can kidnap a princess, use time travel to ruin peopleâs lives, mess with the cutie marks of the countryâs monarchs, and brainwash an entire town and none of this has lasting consequences, thatâs what I find hard to believe.
@Jordan Dwiggins Actually, she gets scolded by Twilight and has to earn her friends' trust. Also, don't forget that MLP is first-and-foremost a slice-of-life show. We are literally only getting little pieces of the bigger picture. It's very possible Starlight was punished offscreen, considering several months pass between these two episodes and Season 6 in universe. That's plenty of time for Starlight to be punished the Equestrian way, which, since she showed genuine remorse for her actions, would make Celestia extremely lenient.
Even in the mind control episode, it was a case of "it seemed like a good idea at the time", and, again, she showed genuine remorse. Every single time Starlight has a magical accident, it's usually because her magic ran away from her. With the mind control, she never put ending clauses in her instructions and she left each one to their own devices. Anyone who knows programming knows you never do either of those things in coding and definitely never both at once.
@Jordan Dwiggins Starlight didnât need to face consequences for her actions because unlike all the other villains, she wasnât looking to rule or destroy Equestria nor was she seeking power or oppression. Instead, she created a village where no pony felt superiority over another and thus, in her eyes, their friendship was eternal.
Later, she only wanted revenge against Twilight and her friends specifically since they took away her lifeâs work but never intended to completely alter history as she didnât believe Twilight and her friends were that important.
In the end, any damage Starlight had done to Equestria were alternate universes that never came to be since Starlight surrendered so there was really no point in punishing her at that point.
As for her redemption, that didnât come until the S6 finale where she essentially made up for her past actions by saving everyone and reforming the changelings.
Starlight isnât a real person. Iâm not trying to compare Starlightâs actions actions to Discordâs or Lunaâs, Iâm comparing the way their redemptions were handled by the writers. And I think Starlightâs was handled a lot worse. You can like Starlight herself and still think that.
@Star Glitter Glow As a said, Iâm not comparing them, Iâm comparing the way the other characters reacted to them. Trixie, Discord, Luna, Sunset, all of them had consequences for their actions and had to earn the trust of others in one way or another, and it took time. It didnât happen immediately. Starlight didnât have to do that at all.
@Jordan Dwiggins I'm going to give you a moment or two to think about why comparing Discord favorably to Starlight Glimmer might be a mind numbingly bad idea.
Iâm not saying I think Starlight wanted to end the world of ruin the lives of the townspeople. But intentionally or not she DID make peopleâs lives far worse for a long stretch of time by controlling them, and she literally kidnapped the main characters. Iâm fairly certain that should be illegal. And unlike Trixie there was no evil amulet manipulating her, she just made horrible decisions. Even if she didnât intend to end the world she very nearly did, and you would think doing something like that would have lasting consequences of some kind. I know lots of other shows have stuff like this with characters doing far worse things and being talked down and forgiven (Naruto, Fairy Tail, Steven Universe) but that doesnât stop this trend from being lazy to me. Those townspeople who chased her down into the caves the last time they saw her would not instantly forgive her after what she did to them. Thatâs just not realistic.
@Star Glitter Glow Iâm just saying, look at the other major reformed characters. Luna had a whole episode early in Season 2 about trying to get people to no longer be scared of her. Discord had an entire episode about how no one but Fluttershy really believed in his reformation, and honestly that didnât change very quickly going forward. Half the mane 6 were ready to turn him to stone as soon as he showed up in the Season 4 premier. Sunset had to go through all of Rainbow Rocks and help defeat another villain before the school would start trusting her again. Up until Season 5 every major villain reformation took time, they had to earn peopleâs trust, which is far more believable than the instant forgiveness and no hard feelings way of doing things they used from Season 5 going forwards. I am not saying this ruins Starlightâs redemption or anything, but it does make it feel a lot lazier in its execution and it set a precedent going forward that Iâm not a fan of.
@Jordan Dwiggins She'd messed up, everything she'd ever worked for had been taken away, and now even her revenge was no longer viable. She was at her emotional lowest in that moment which made her unpredictable, less logical and more dangerous but also put her at her most open to being talked down, which is what happened.
Whatever crimes or incidents happen later are absolutely irrelevant as they aren't tied in to her motivations here, and we don't know how much she practiced in secret so we can't say for sure where her skill level SHOULD be without speculating hard.
As for any gripes about her being easily forgiven, hi, welcome to My Little Pony, you must be new here.
@Star Glitter Glow I do agree with your first point to an extent, but she did still come extremely close to ripping apart the time spell even after being directly shown the consequences of her actions. I know that it would be hard to believe Twilightâs words given how absurd they sound, but she saw it with her own eyes. Regardless of that, she started a cult where she acted as a dictator and she kidnapped the Mane 6 and stole their cutie marks from them. And yet when she goes back to said town nobody is upset, nobody has any problem forgiving her immediately. None of the characters in the show seem to show any hesitation forgiving Starlight except for Starlight herself. Thatâs what frustrates me. Itâs not so much that I dislike Starlight herself as much as I dislike how she has zero consequences or repercussions for her actions. Itâs really hard to believe. And it doesnât help that she continues to use her magic as an extreme solution to problems time after time going forward without thinking of the consequences, but it works out for her because no one ever reprimands her for it. She literally mind controls the others in an episode and itâs just laughed off like nothing. She messes with the rulers of the countryâs cutie marks and gets away scot free. It feels like the writers give her a free pass to do whatever ideas they want to try but know that their other characters are too sensible to attempt. As for the second point I donât exactly disagree, I just still think itâs a bit hard for me to believe given that Starlight spent a decent part of her life not even using her magic openly while Twilight has been studying it her whole life, including under Celestia, was considered a childhood prodigy and is also an alicorn. Being an alicorn doesnât always help against extremely powerful creatures like Discord or Chrysalis, but it clearly makes one a great deal more powerful than a regular unicorn.
@Jordan Dwiggins A few things worth noting. 1) Starlight wasn't trying, nor did she ever try to destroy the world. Her actions almost caused the end, but her intentions were never that. She didn't even believe Twilights claims that her actions were causing the end of the world because, let's face it, the idea that only, and only, those six being able to do literally anything about any evil that shows up is a bit of a hard pill to try and swallow. If she was trying to destroy the world then she wouldn't need to express any doubts about it.
2) Twilight's not all powerful. The element of magic is a magical source of friendship energy that doesn't really hold a world of sway when she's isolated from the other element bearers. The only time the element of magic ever had power on its own was when it was taken to the human world and there it was hinted that those were special rules when Sunset pop quizzes Twilight on what happens when you take an element into a different world, and as for being an alicorn that's literally never helped Celestia.
Itâs hard to take Starlight seriously given that her excuse for trying to literally destroy the world was the same excuse Moondancer had, and she just became a shut-in. Regardless of how good Starlight ends up later at some points this is still the most ridiculous excuse for someone trying to destroy the world Iâve seen in this show. At least most of the other characters with seemingly minor reasons like Luna, Sunset and Stigeon all are clearly being corrupted through magical means to go far beyond the extent they normally would have. That isnât true for Starlight. Thereâs also the problem that Starlight being stronger than Twilight here is really hard for me to believe. Twilight is the literal element of magic and an alicorn while Starlight is a normal unicorn who spent a large part of her life in a town where she couldnât openly practice magic. How is she stronger than Twilight here? It feels a bit contrived to me.
Just to put into perspective what Twilight means by friendships falling apart because she never meets her friends:
No mane six? No cutie mark crusaders. No cutiemark crusader? More bullies and less ponies finding their purpose. No mane six? No Princess sisterhood. Celestia and Luna never makeup and Celestia stays trapped in the moon. No mane six? No Cadence. Twilight never went to magic school because she failed her test. Shining Armor therefore never fell in love with her babysitter. No Princess Cadence leads to no protection over the crystal empire and thus King Sombra returns. Celestia couldn't take him by herself. No mane six? Pinkie stays on her rock farm for who knows how long and thus doesn't bring the ponies she meets together through joy and laughter perhaps until much later in her life. No mane six? Fluttershy and Rainbow don't become friends through flight school because Fluttershy flunks out due to her fears. Rainbow becomes just as snooty as Guilda was. No mane six? Because the elements stayed dormant, there was no one to stop Discord once he was free. No mane six? No elements. Even if they still "connected" with the elements, they'd serve no purpose if they were not friends. Harmony is needed.
They're import and really do have a butterfly effort on those around them.
Yes, Starlightâs origin was a little weak, but we must remember that what she showed Twilight was only the beginning, and that many years passed between then and her forming the village. I think why she ended up how she did was because she didnât know how to deal with the pain of losing a friend and that pain slowly became worse over time until she couldnât bare it and had to find something to blame it on, cutie marks.
Youâll be seeing more of Starlightâs character believe me. I also find her pretty relatable, like how even a something that seems small can mean a lot, like Twilightâs offer of friendship, and how even a problem that on the outside seems insignificant can cause such a deep pain that others canât understand. . . Perhaps one reason Starlight turned out how she did is because she never confided in anyone the pain she felt, thinking that it shouldnât have been such a big deal? And growing up simply bottled up her emotions until she snapped? Itâs just a theory, but when you really think about It, it isnât at all far fetched to say that loosing a friend (and perhaps only friend) at such a young age could make somepony turn out the way she did many years later.
Anyway, wonderful reaction! Looking forward to what you think of certain episodes in season 6. Sincerely, Guardian Blade the positive analyzer.
I 100% agree. When I was around 13 or 14, my friend moved away and we lost touch. Iâve gotten over it, but sometimes that rejection is still there. Obviously Iâm not like Starlight, but that rejected feeling? It feels like you can never make a friend again, and when you do, you sometimes feel like youâll be rejected again. So I too can totally relate to Starlight Glimmer
@Skitty It so many characters had to face some kind of consequence for their actions, even non villain ones. Heck, the CMC had faced a little punishment from from time to time. Like when they had to clean up the rodeo after they ran off to find Troubleshoos against Applejack's orders. Starlight never faced any real consequence for her actions, and she never did learn from them. Which is the real purpose for punishment, It teaches them that it is wrong, and they should never do that again. But she didn't learn her mistake, as she continued to use her magic recklessly. First like when she made Big Mac talk with a spell. She was still so used to bringing ponies under her will. Also when she made the mane six do things under her spell as well, forgot the name of that episode. And let's not forget switching the Cutie Marks of the princesses..... Which I think was only plot that it all went right in the end. Though it only went right because of the princesses themselves. She had absolutely no control of what the outcome would have been because of her actions. Through none of these did it go wrong for her personally, the only ones that were affected in a bad way were the ones she did it to. This is why she should have been punished in the beginning, it would have taught her NOT to do all these things. And I think I would have known a perfect punishment, and this may be harsh. But it should still be better than being banished to the Moon, or sent to Tartarus. Or turned to Stone. And her magic was the source of all of her wrongdoings. So, have Discord snap her horn away. For a certain amount of time, strip her from her magic temporarily. Then have her do community work, just like an earth pony would with her Hooves and her mouth. I personally think that would have been a suitable enough punishment. Then when it is over she can get her horn back, then officially become Twilight's star pupil. Most may think this is pretty harsh, but hey she took the ponies special talents away. Which is one of the worst things you could do in Equestria, lied to them. Then messed with time itself, which would have resulted in the destruction of Equestria. So yes, this would have been a suitable punishment. Then I would like her even more than I do now, yes I do like the pony she became. But that one part is still missing from her.
@Joshua Garcia And it wasn't like everyone else knew about what she did either. She nearly destroyed Equestria, and after a quick apology she simply became Twilight's student and nopony was any the wiser. Most probably thought that Twilight just took her on with no knowledge of what nearly happened.
Meanwhile, Trixie boasts about a great magical feat as part of an entertainment routine, and manages to successfully take down hecklers, then a couple of idiot colts take her seriously and stupidly enough to bring an Everfree Monster to town (which destroys her home and livelihood) and yet Trixie is the one run out of town and made a mockery of.
Driven to the brink, she gets an artifact desperate to beat Twilight, but it corrupts her to the point where she becomes evil (under severe magical influence) and when her major apology tours happen, she is rebuked again and again, makes one final mistake, costing her the only friend she has left...and attempts suicide.
Not a valid reason to ruin the lives of others. Had Twilight not convinced her, Equestria would have been left in shambles. Her little sad background story was never a good excuse for her crimes. And her being automatically forgiven doesn't mean she actually atoned herself, just means she was let off easy. The ponies are just that forgiving, it's kind of annoying at times. It was as if she was rewarded for everything she did, immediately becoming Twilight's star student. Becoming an Alicorn's student is not something that happens to every unicorn, it's a dream come true for whoever it happens to.
And so ends one of the best seasons of MLP that Iâve ever seen. This finale was very interesting, having to deal with time traveling and alternate timelines. It felt so good to see some of our favorite Equestrian villains return in these timelines (Sombra, Chrysalis, Nighmare Moon, Tirek, etc.). Starlight may have been one of the best antagonists of the whole show, she certainly has great potential in her magical abilities, so good that they rival Twilightâs magic. I did feel bad for her when we saw her origin story here and I had hoped that she would see the error of her ways and Iâm glad she did in the end. Now that Starlight is part of the Mane Cast, things are gonna get more interesting in the next season!
twist58 Yes, those misdeeds of hers did seem pitiful and unreasonable, but there are times when people go through horrible experiences and in turn make bad decisions because of said experience. Starlight thought she was doing the world a favor by having every pony not going through the same experience that she did with Sunburst, but she was really holding everyone back from embracing their special talents.
SpacialRend7 If I recall, this season finale had mixed reactions from various fans. Starlightâs reasons behind these misdeeds felt petty and not enough to go on about in terms of proper character development.
@Romero Yeah, I don't understand why nobody notices this. Everybody is like "oh fun, an another time travel episode, we haven't seen time travel since 'It's About Time' ", but nobody is like "hold on a minute, in 'It's About Time' time travel worked like a loop, where you're forced to do the actions that lead the you time traveling to the past, but here you are able to change the course of events and the future and stuff, why are there these two different forms of time travel?"
@Romero Those two time travel tropes aren't really that inconsistent. It's just that in "It's About Time", Twilight created something called a "time loop". She still could have changed her future, but a good time loop is made in such a way that the more you try to change it, the more you're doing precisely the thing that pushes you into that loop in the first place, so you only reinforce the loop. To escape a time loop, one usually has to do something very opposite to what one would normally do in that particular situation. And the hardest thing is usually to figure out what exactly is that thing that causes the time loop in order to be able to change it. Check out Snst's BkStgPss for an example of such a loop and how to escape it. (I obfuscated the title to avoid potential spoilers for PonyBro.)
In this episode (S5 finale), there are multiple timelines actually, and they don't quite replace each other. If they did, the Twilight we follow would have to lose her cutie mark, in accordance with her modified past. And yet she doesn't, because she's originally from a different timeline (the original one we all know). We see Starlight changing the outcome of the race for filly Rainbow Dash, and this kinda "switches the track" to the time line in which the sonic rainboom never happened, both for Starlight and the Twilight we follow. So when she returns to her present, it is now a DIFFERENT present, on a DIFFERENT time line â the one in which the sonic rainboom never happened. Her original time line is still there, but it became inaccessible to her for now. In order to access it, she would have to go back to the past again, and change her course to the original timeline BEFORE Starlight Glimmer modified it (which, as we know, she protected herself against, because the scroll will bring her back to the moment before Twilight's arrival).
Interestingly, when the season finale ends, the original timeline isn't really restored either! :> Let me explain: In the original timeline, there was no Starlight and Twilight at Rainbow Dash's race. She did the sonic rainboom because there was no pony to stop her. In this seemingly original timeline, however, Rainbow Dash finished her race from a very different reason! â she finished it because Starlight Glimmer allowed her to do so :> So now Starlight Glimmer is actually part of their past and she is the reason that connected them together by allowing the sonic rainboom to happen :g You can picture it as railroads that switch sides for a little while and then switch back. We're kinda on the same track now, but its history follows a different path, with a short kink that wasn't there before ;) Original: ______ Current: __/"""\______
It's actually inconsistent in this series, they use 2 different time travel rules, the first on that Twilight episode and the 2nd here. On the Twilight episode, the future could not be changed, you traveling back through time is already accounted in the past. In this episode the future can be changed, there are no multiple timelines either, the previous future is simply replaced. But I have a theory to "fix" this plot hole: The spell was created by Star Swirl, I think he put a safety measure to prevent people from changing the past, which resulted in our first case. But Starlight removed it when she changed the spell, making the time travel works as it should.
The rules are confusing. Does the change affect the current timeline or make it split into multiples? If the timeline is restored, what happens to the altered one? How is it determined what timeline the characters travel back to at the end? It always puzzles me.
Im gonna dive a bit into Starlight's possible (hypothetical series of events) psychology behind her motivation. She was very young when Sunburst got his Cutie Mark, moments later he left never to return. So she tried her best to rationalize what happened but again she was very young, so her concepts of how things work was not fully developed yet. She associated Sunburst getting his Cutie Mark with him leaving. Which led to a distrust in Cutie Marks. Confusion and distrust can easily turn into anger with notions of abandonment, which she clearly would have felt. Unchecked anger will eventually become bitterness if the person/pony continues to hold a grudge, again she clearly has. As time passes and she gets older, she takes steps to avoid ever feeling abandoned again so she does solo things like study magic and finds she is pretty good at it, eventually and inevitably getting her Cutie Mark (her talent is shown here a bit and more later but I'm pretty sure its mixing spells/magic). While studying, she finds that magic can do pretty much whatever she wants with the right combination of spells. Skip forward a bit, mix a longstanding unchecked grudge against Cutie Marks and magic that turns everything up to 11 with abandonment issues, and voila you get an ideology where she believes nopony should have a Cutie Mark, and uses an equality argument to justify her beliefs. As we will see in the future and some up to this point, the ponies of Equestria are quite gullible. So it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that Starlight wouldn't have much difficulty convincing individuals of her "Equality Speech" and to join her in her "equality", repeat the last step a few times and there you have it, a cult.
probably way off base with that, but thats how i could see her having gotten to where she was and her motivation, while kinda weak, was still valid
I know some people might think Starlights origin story is weak, contrived, or just outright silly. But I honestly think itâs perfectly logical.
For me personally, I know the pain of seeing people getting recognition for their talents and feeling extremely left behind. The resentment and envy is horrible. And just imagine how much worse it is in a world where a core part of you is meant to be your talent? Itâs just in Starlights face ALL the time. As she grew up, she probably saw more and more ponies getting their cuties marks and was constantly reminded of how and why đ she lost her best friend. If you ask me, itâs perfectly reasonable and plausible that this would make her absolutely hate cutie marks and wish to strip them off ponies. Even if equality isnât what she actually wanted, maybe what she actually wanted was to not see anybody succeed anymore to lessen the pain for herself.
To this day, I still think the reason Starlight didn't rip up the spell right away is because she wanted Twilight to reach her and convince her things could be better. She pretty much gave Twilight every opportunity to do so. She is smart enough to know that drawing it out like this would really only benefit Twilight by giving her time to stop her.
Twilight did say in the premier that she hoped what she said would reach Starlight. And I actually think it did. Though she stll had some doubts which led her to kind of a Xanatos Gambit here. And Starlight was betting on Twilight giving a convincing speech to talk her down.
Great reaction as always! Starlight can be... divisive... to fans, but I'm glad you're on board with her reformation. She's one of my favorites. I think you'll enjoy what's to come. Season 5 is probably my favorite overall season.
I remember when I first watched this finale, the last shot of all the ponies looking at the viewer, it felt like series finale rather than just season finale. Little did I know then that the series was barely past half of itself. Heck, back then, I was just glad when they confirmed season 6!
That would actually be a pretty solid series finale, if not the fact that they've just introduced a new member to the main cast and it would be uncool to leave that hanging :J
Actually if you think about it, Fluttershy is actually the one that started the events. Without Fluttershy getting bullied there is no need for rainbow to defend her and without that no race and no sonic rainboom. No one ever realize what this episode was hinting at. Fluttershy is the true cause.
Starlight is voiced by Kelly Sheridan. Shes the voice of Barbie, Sango from Inuyasha, Scarlet Witch from X-Men Evolution, Ukyo from Ranma, and many other characters.
Itâs very interesting how whenever you have a story involving time travel thereâs always the possibility of when I call: âthe itâs a wonderful life principleâ basically just one persons life affects so many people that just taking that single personality equation affects things so much that is it any wonder the taking out six would cause a massive change.
The reason for Starlight Glimmer to join the main cast after reforming was because Twilight had made so much progress, that the next step in her character development was to become a mentor to someone else. Starlight Glimmer was someone who needed someone like Twilight to teach her. Plus, the addition of Starlight Glimmer gave the main cast someone who was more three dimensional. Her progression also provided an interesting character development story arc.
I've been putting it off for a few weeks since the show ended, but I've finally started ranking every episode of the show, and I've gotten through the first five seasons. And since you're going through the show at such a brisk pace, I'm going to rank them as I rewatch them along with you.
Since nobody asked, here are my top 5 and bottom 5 of the show through the first five seasons: TOP 5 1. Amending Fences 2. The Cutie Map(with a slight edge to part 2 over part 1) 3. Hurricane Fluttershy 4. Pinkie Pride 5. Sleepless in Ponyville
BOTTOM 5 5. Look Before You Sleep 4. Griffon the Brush Off(rewatching the series, I forgot how unenjoyable this episode was) 3. Bats!(probably a controversial pick; I remember CobaltSky7 said this was actually his favourite episode of season 4, but I couldn't stand it) 2. Putting Your Hoof Down 1. The Mysterious Mare Do Well(I haven't watched this one in years, but I know I despised it when I first saw it. It's also no coincidence that the bottom three are all by the same writer.)
"Bloomberg snapped." Love it. I actually choked. I always kinda figured the wasteland was the future that Starlight would create...with nothing left alive everyone was finally equal.
I always debate between which season finale is greater; season 4 or season 5.
On one hand (or hoof), S4 was more impactful and more exciting and had a better song. On the other, S5 was more suspenseful and conceptually brilliant and had a stronger villain (In terms of character structure).
What if Starlight wanted to prevent Sunburst from getting his cutie mark and Twilight had to let her make the right decision to let it happen or not? I think that would have added another layer to her backstory.
1. Twilightâs Kingdom 2. The Cutie Re-Mark 3. The Ending of the End 4. To Where and Back Again 5. Shadow Play 6. A Canterlot Wedding 7. School Raze 8. Magical Mystery Cure 9. The Best Night Ever
I actually used to consider this the best season finale (and by extension the best two episodes) of the entire show! However, after rewatching the masterpiece that is Twilightâs Kingdom a couple months ago, I decided to bump The Cutie Re-Mark down to 2nd place.
In any case, this finale absolutely slaps. Not only do we witness the return and eventual reformation of Starlight Glimmer, but we also get to see all of our favorite villains from 5 yearsâ worth of pony!
The books are Canon to the series lore, in the starlight glimmer book (after watching season 6 opener at least) we can see a small glimpse of starlight's true power and it speaks a lot seeing how twilight is surprised by it.
You know what's the most ironic about that? :q That Celestia is trying so hard to gather all those ĂŒber-powerful Unicorns in her special School for Gifted Unicorns, and she even got Sunburst there, and yet she missed Starlight Glimmer who seems to be the most powerful of them so far :D And all of that despite the fact that she was literally in the same village and the same place with Sunburst ;D
As a reminder and update, hereâs a rundown of the showâs timeline again:
1. Season 5 2. Equestria Girls: Friendship Games 3. Season 6 4. Equestria Girls: Legend of Everfree 5. Season 7 6. My Little Pony: The Movie 7. Season 8 8. Best Gift Ever 9. Season 9
In between there, you need to do the Equestria Girls specials Dance Magic, Movie Magic, and Mirror Magic. I recommend after Season 7. Thereâs also the web series of Equestria Girls, the Choose Your Own Ending series, and the specials Forgotten Friendship, Rollercoaster of Friendship, Spring Breakdown, Holidays Unwrapped, and Sunsetâs Backstage Pass. More details will come later
Sunset Shimmer Reformation was good but since it was 1 movie it was rushed, with Starlight Glimmer you are about to experience one of the best character developments in the series
By the way, since starlight made the spell, it has a set time and place. Twilight didnât change âstarlightâsâ spell which is why starlight and twilight were in pretty much the same spot every time at the same period I. Time
"I think she's more powerful than Twilight with her magic." In terms of raw power, Starlight is more powerful than Twilight was-when she was still a unicorn. But Alicorn magic is a whole other thing, as you saw in the battle against Tirek. Twilight is also a more advanced scholar than Starlight; she has studied more arcane magics and has access to the complete Canterlot Library.
Based on several factors (extensive self-levitation, the cutie mark removal spell, and the major alterations to Starswirlâs time travel spell), I honestly think Starlight is more powerful than even alicorn Twilight. Also, Starlight broke out of the crystal imprisonment thing way faster than Twilight could (33:34).
This episode is full of dark elements. The sombra future is a war, with all the support of the citizens. Chrysalis kills zecora, and dooms pony kind. Starlight is bitter and misguided, she did in the premier what she thought was best for her and thought it would not harm other ponies, here she wanted to crush twilight but she did not know that she would doom equestria by doing so. I guess she didn't follow and studied twilight good enough :P Anyway, there is a cool PMV for this episode, if you want you can watch it https ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPzJSUJ7dlE
Yes! It makes me so happy that you're in the camp that loves Starlight Glimmer!! I love her too. ^_^
Sadly though, she is probably THE most divisive character ever created; Bronies are evenly split on whether they love her or hate her, and those that do hate on her do so for the two weakest reasons...that "she's OP as fuck" and/or "she was too easily and quickly forgiven". Such ridiculousness. >:(
Grandfather Paradox: Starlight's plan is one, since if the Rainboom never happened, the Mane Six couldn't have beaten her to trigger her revenge plan in the first place.
Great reaction PonyBro, and I don't just say that as a Starlight fan lol :P Though I'm of course happy to see people appreciate her reformation. I personally thought her dialogue with Twilight was a very powerful moment, especially Twilight's "I guess you'll just have to make sure they won't". It's my favorite reformation in the show, up there with Discord's, because you see the turmoil the antagonist goes through and how they're changing their mind and why.
Anyway, to give my answers to some of the small questions you had. These are not definitive, but only my assumptions, mind.
- Twi's friends still got their cutie-marks probably because nothing about who they ultimately are was altered, so they were always gonna get the same cutie-marks no matter what, but they didn't end up becoming friends because all the circumstances changed. Heck, even if Twi herself got the same cutie-mark, I assume it's entirely possible she never became Celestia's personal student.
- Nightmare Moon just seems to forget teleportation exists. (You asked why she didn't expect Twi to teleport herself, and Spike out of his chains.) Remember in the pilot when Twilight was able to fool her by just charging at her and teleporting past her at the last moment? It's a stretch, but I find the idea hilarious: NMM just somehow missed the fact that unicorns can teleport, lol. I'm not sure if there's any teleportation shown in a flashback to her time, maybe the spell was invented after she got banished?
Actually, these two questions were the only ones I remember and only one of them was even fully serious, so whatevs. :>
I think it's just more likely that most unicorns don't know how to teleport. We see so few do it, and future NMM didn't even notice that Twilight was an alicorn, so it wouldn't be too far of a stretch.
Yeah, I'm a huge Glimmy fan. My favorite character in the show by far and, as I always say, she pretty much helped reinvigorate my interest in the show after it dipped during season 4. Even the greatness of season 5 alone wasn't turning out to be quite enough, but GlimGlam's reintroduction as a good guy definitely boosted it back up and above what it's ever been.
I wouldn't say it was a difficult journey for me personally though, as most of the time when I saw people bitching about Starlight, the tone and content of their comments tended to look pretty childish so I didn't really care about their opinions much. And when I saw an opinion against Glimmy that I could respect due to the person's reasoning and/or maturity, it didn't bother me either.
Did you say... Starlight Glimmer fan? :D Me too! It sure was a difficult journey for us, Starlight fans, to endure the pressure from so many people in the fandom being against her those years...
Starlight's villain motivation suffered a little because the finale was a lot more focused on showing us fun alternate timelines, so I can forgive the writers for dropping the ball there. Starlight becomes one of the most entertaining characters in the show in my opinion ^^
to be fair i didn't develop it much or actually write it or anything but for years before this episode came out i would occasionally ponder an idea i had for a fic or comic or something that would be a "what if the sonic rainboom never happened" story. then when this episode came out i was so mad lmao. damn my procrastination
they took it in a different direction than i would have (mine involved doctor whooves and derpy for a start lmao) though which is pretty interesting
(don't ask for details btw cause i've forgotten them all lmao. except i think all the mane six were adult blank flanks in mine)
I guess the third apperance of starlight glimmer is still a mystery. The confirmed episode are Amending fences, and what about discord. They hint at a third appreance. But no on has been able to find it.
36:00 Don't be silly. Clearly this was Gummy's doing. His existential crisis reached critical mass.
Also I just realized that Starlight was in more seasons than she wasn't. Huh. But seriously, if you like Starlight that much, there are a few episodes next season I can't wait for you to see. And in general I think you'll love season 6. Honestly based on what you've enjoyed so far, I don't see you ever having a bad season.
@Winter Oh, how many times I heard that old adage⊠If the writers were really that much "out of ideas", then they're clearly not the right people for the job, if fans can come up with such ideas every day. Heck, if they were really out of ideas, they could have at least explore the ideas that were never explored to its fullest in the show. Writers and their ideas were the least problem here.
@Bon Bon I think season 9 was the perfect time to end the show. The writers were clearly starting to run out of good ideas for episodes & friendship lessons.
I loved Starlight as an antagonist. While I don't agree that her motivation is lacking, I very much do see where people are coming from with that line of thought, and I do think the shows portrayal of her motivation fell very flat compared to how it should have been.
However, her being reformed led to her being my second favorite character, so I can't be too dissapointed on the lack of antagonist Starlight.
I still kind of think Starlight should've been arrested(or another equal punishment) for a few months or something! Even though I do understand the episodes might've been written a little differently, or experienced differently (Lol We all kind of wished she stayed full villain too dude) But the aspects of her arc and how it all ended was great, perfect even, would not change them! Nice reactions~
There was no reason for her to do this, it was purely for revenge. I doubt she even knew that doing this would have endangered civilization in three separate ways. It's why I think it's a great plot device, she's so full of blind hate that she dooms everyone.
Once you are caught up with the series, you should check out DWK Totally Legit Recap. His humour will be totally up your alley. Concerning fan-animations: From now you can spoiler-free react to tiarawhy's MLP animations. Later I would recommend you give Agrolchannel and ForgaLorga a watch.
Probably since Celestia was the most powerful alicorn and also small (all alicorns are more similar to horses as height) she undestimated her plus probably Nightmare Moon doesn't know the mechanics beyond teleportation spell, only a form of vampiric mist form
01:04 Admit it, you want to get to season 6 as fast as possible so that you could finally check out DWK's content ;J 01:42 THAT'S DEVIOUS! ]:> (wink wink ;) ) 02:28 Who are you and what have you done to Twilight? She does not forget stuff! :q 04:30 Gee, how did it get there... ;) 05:00 [not actual footage] 05:14 :> 08:20 Good question.... (about that pavement not sinking into clouds) 09:06 I wonder where did she find it. The only possible place is Starwirl's wing in Canterlot Archives, unless she knows some other location... ;> 09:25 She almost messed up the past herself :q Good that Spike stopped her :s 10:42 Nope, this Twilight is from the original world line. Her past is still OK. 10:48 Yeah, it's pretty hard, because it's pretty much like pulling yourself up by your boot straps :q However, Twilight can do that too: she did that in season 3 premiere, after falling from those stairs in Sombra's castle. 10:56 Yeah, but she's also a script kiddie ;) She used someone else's spell and only modified it slightly to do that time travel spell. 11:04 I guess it's kinda like in "The Matrix": so that the viewers could recognize which world they're in currently. 11:34 :D 11:55 I hope so :q Because otherwise I would have to think that Starlight shat all over that table, and that there's blood in her stool :D 12:08 GHOSTBUSTERS! :D (sorry, I couldn't resist ;D ) 14:57 Good question. However I'm not sure if she would be that useful without her cutie mark. (Hopefully still good at reading and acquiring knowledge, though :q ) 15:06 Judging by how Applejack acts, I think the more important question is: where's Apple Bloom? :q Because I don't see her anywhere around :/ (Which makes this situation much more dark if you think of the possible implications :q ) 16:18 Full Metal Rainbow Dash :J 17:03 Theoretically, they can still become friends :J Just saying... 18:12 That's a very hard problem indeed: how to stop a time traveller who can bend the time to always be one step ahead of you? :g Starlight Glimmer planned that very well ;> That's why she's the most clever villain ;> 20:36 I love how she framed Twilight into a setting in which she cannot win without being a total ass :D Brilliant ;> 22:22 Rainbow Dash: "I need an adult" :J
24:13 Now it looks like a real mohawk :J 24:30 If it is what I think it is, then I think no pony would stand still when covered in it :q 25:35 In this case, this timeline was not caused by stopping Rainbow Dash â this time she stopped the bullies who teased Fluttershy. A different cause leads to a different timeline. 26:07 Hahah you were almost right ;D 26:16 Well, they are not covered in crap, so that's a potential give away :J 27:06 Not quite. That kid was an Earth Pony with dark-purple hair and yellow coat. This one here is a Pegasus with violet hair and grey coat. But you were close with your prediction anyway :) 27:44 And Fluttershy too in the background. But I'm not sure if they died. Changelings don't kill their prey â they put them into cocoons so that they could feed on them later. 28:02 Yeah, she's learning ;> and this time she came prepared :> 28:10 I wonder what that other half of the cloud was attached to so it didn't fall like the first half :J 28:26 You're already rooting for the enemy? :D 29:29 You have not enough mana :J 29:39 What's with you and falling off the cliffs, Twilight? You literally have the bridge next to you :J 29:47 With that crescent on top it kinda looks like a mosque :q 32:55 The timberwolves aren't alive to begin with. They're spirits that gather pieces of wood and make their physical bodies out of them. When you destroy them, they can rebuild from the same pieces of wood, or find another. 33:22 Not in this timeline ;> In this timeline, Nightmare Moon has never met Twilight before, so she doesn't know her teleportation trick yet ;) 34:54 That's the thing: she didn't know, because she never experienced those futures. Twilight did. 35:30 Fallout: Equestria :J 35:48 Angel Bunny :D 37:50 This kinda answers the question Apple Bloom had in "Bloom and Gloom": what if they won't get their cutie marks all at the same time. I guess it might have ended bad if that happened :q Apple Bloom might have been Starlight right now :q 38:33 Perhaps because she was not sure if it will work. 40:02 The scroll is like: "My work here is done. I shall go now, when no scroll has gone before." :J 40:08 Hmm... how many episodes were there?... ;) 40:15 Well, technically, this is not the original timeline ;> See my other comment here somewhere in which I explained that (the one about the intricacies of time travel). 40:39 "She might be a bitch, but she's our bitch now" :) 40:58 Oh, you have no idea... :J In the universe, everything is connected. And even the smallest and seemingly unimportant thing can make a huge change in the long run. (That's kinda what the butterfly effect is all about.) 41:28 TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOONNNNN!! ]:D 43:53 You can always count on the Stockholm syndrome :J 47:24 Make sure to react to "Equestria Girls 3: Friendship Games" before that, because it came out between season 5 and 6.
Starlight is blinded by rage, hatred, and accusing others around her by blaming her own failures onto others while at the same time claiming they have an ego.
I have a theory: Her selfish ambitions are what will be her own downfall if she succeeded in her time travel scheme. No pony left will be there in that desolate wasteland, only herself to fend on her own.
Bro like the world rings of hatred sadness and rage bro if starlight had those rings twilight wouldn't even be a challenge to her as darkspine starlight glimmer dude
There's an alt-verse fic where Twilight stays in the past and adopts Starlight and grows into what could be assumed to be what we see in the S9 Epilogue
1. A reality in which Trixie took over equestria was scripted, but was cut from the final product due to time constraints.
2. A reality in which Derpy ruled was proposed but was cut as it took away from the tone
3. Another scrapped reality would have been Twilight meeting with an older Starlight standing over a desolated world. In it older Starlight would have pleaded with Twilight to forgive what she did and beg her to stop her younger self. This was scrapped as it was deemed too dark for a child's show
These are my favorite to least favorite songs of Season 5: 1. The Magic Inside (Iâm Just A Pony) 2. The Pony I Want To Be 3. Iâll Fly 4. Weâll Make Our Mark 5. Equestria The Land I Love 6. Pony I Want To Be (Reprise) 7. Rules of Rarity 8. Make This Castle A Home 9. In Our Town 10. Light Of Your Cutie Mark 11. The Spectacle 12. Vinyl Scratches and Octaviaâs Dubstep 13. The Vote 14. Friends Are Always There For You 15. Weâll Make Our Mark (Prelude) 16. Make This Castle A Home (Reprise) 17. Apple Jackâs Lullaby 18. Sisterhood Social Song
It was pretty cool to see all these alternate timelines, but I felt like they detracted too much from the conflict with Starlight, which seemed rushed in comparison. So, it's not my favorite finale, but it's still a good one.
The thing about this episode, is that in this episode, time travel CAN change the past, but in It's About Time, time travel COULDN'T change the past. I give the show a pass, because it says that Starlight altered Starswirls spell, but I wanted to point that out, because far too many people don't realize that they're fundamentally different types of time travel.
@Bon Bon You literally commented "25:35 In this case, this timeline was not caused by stopping Rainbow Dash â this time she stopped the bullies who teased Fluttershy. A different cause leads to a different timeline." So you do acknowledge, that the past is being changed. So I don't understand your confusion. In this finale, the way time travel works, you can go back in time, and change the past.
@Bon Bon "Where did you get the idea that in this finale time travel can change the past?" The fact that Starlight went back in time, and changed the past. I really don't understand stand the confusion. Also, not all forms of time travel where you change the past means you disappear from existence. Here is a video that talks about different types of time travel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3zTfXvYZ9s
Where did you get the idea that in this finale time travel can change the past? I don't see any evidence of that, while there's evidence for the contrary: if Twilight's past were really affected, the Twilight we follow must have had changed too in accordance with her new past, and either her cutie mark (as well as Spike) would have had to disappear, or she would have had to cease existing altogether, never meeting Starlight, and never getting involved in the time travel to begin with. But that would have caused a time paradox, unless we assume parallel timelines. But in this case, fiddling with time can only make you switch from one timeline to another, not affecting the original one. It's like choosing the path to the left instead of to the right. Even Zecora kinda explained that with her water stream allegory. Wherever you read about that supposed "contradiction", it must have been mistaken, because there's no contradiction whatsoever. See my other comment here somewhere for more detailed explanation.
Or perhaps Daybreaker ( courtesy also from Starlight Glimmer) or the eating flies or like some fan observed, many or all villains escaped from their prisons and battled to death for conquest of Equestria
Mainly the only reason the world went bad is because Twilight never became Celestiaâs student, the others donât matter that much. Rainbow only matters because she caused Twilight to get her cutie mark.
Also the only reason why starlight is some what better at magic than twilight is because twilights destiny is The magic of friendship and The element of magic thatâs why itâs a pink star. While starlights represents souly on just magic
This. Individually, Starlight is better at magic, because Twilightâs talent is the magic of friendship, so she needs her friends to be really strong.
Despite what the other commenters may have stated as you said in the first half the reaction, this finale makes it clear it was not a cult, it was proper political ideology of communism. She espouses with the bullies and with Twilight that it was about creating harmony and equality, even when she did not have to (no cult members to indoctrinate: she was effectively planning to kill Twilight). In later appearances, that it was the political ideology that motivated her is reinforced several times, because some of the fans didn't seem to get the message.
"How can a group of ponies who are SO DIFFERENT be so important?!" She asks frantically and frazzled... Clearly the words of a cult leader carefully grooming their next new acolyte, and not the words of someone whose deeply-held ideology is being credibly challenged.
Not really. It was indeed a cult. :) Communism is not about people having equal talents (or lacking them), it's a social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs. Starlight's group was a small group following their special agenda. They were in a cult. If you need a real example of communism ideas in a show, watch classic Star Trek shows. Their future society integrates ideas of communism really obviously. :)
41:05 I think twilight and starlight habe the same level power. We can see that fighting they tie and in the show we can see that twilight can do speels that starlight dont and vice versa.
@Green Orbit In terms of overall power, Twilight has more. Starlight is just at an advantage because she knows more spells. If Twilight and Starlight were to engage in a battle like how Celestia and Chrysalis did, like that laser to laser thing, Twilight would win.
@Green Orbit But Pony of Shadows said âThis one is almost as strong as you Starswirl.â To Twilight. Are u saying that Starlight is more powerful than Starswirl the bearded?
@Selena I agree, Twilight has the magic of Friendship within her, which makes her the strongest. However, she is only the strongest when she is with her friends. On her own, Starlight decimates.
@Selena If Twilight had more raw power than Starlight, then why would she need her friends? As Celestia said years ago: "What is the Princess of Friendship without her friends?"
@Selena Yes, Twilight is the Princess of Friendship. However, she can only access that power when her friends are around. Just look at her cutie mark: One large star with five small stars.
@Green Orbit Twilightâs special talent isnât just âmagicâ, its actually the magic of friendship. Twilight possesses the magic of friendship within her, and thats the most powerful magic of all, do ofcourse shes stronger than Starlight.
@Green Orbit Incorrect. Starlight is actually better than Twilight in magic. However, Twilight has more raw power than Starlight.
You have to understand all of Starlightâs feats were spells Twilight had no idea existed. Iâm pretty sure if Starlight could teach Twilight a banishing spell or combat magic, Twilight would be stronger than she is now.
Starlight is actually stronger as Twilight admitted she couldnât stop her and during their fight, Twilight was visibly more exhausted than Starlight.
Starlight also has feats throughout the series that prove sheâs stronger.
I mean its kinda like communism. Communism at its most basic form is a classless society. No one is better than each other or more important. Sounds a bit familiar.
It's perfectly fine, and I'm even saying that as a Starlight fan. When I think about it, you're right; hating cutie marks and turning 'evil' just because a friend moved away?! That's the kind of backstory that belongs to a campy one-shot villain from the 1960's Batman live-action show...not MLP:FiM. I mean, even Apple Bloom moved on when Twist got her cutie mark and she {Apple Bloom) didn't; she made new friends, in the Cutie Mark Crusaders.
So yeah, love her or hate her, your opinion does make a valid point. :/
Since we're sharing our opinions here, I'll offer my own perspective as well. Starlight destroying Equestria because she lost a childhood friend is weak, yes. But this isn't exactly what happened. From Starlight's perspective, losing Sunburst was an epiphany. She learned the "truth" about how weak friendship was, and this was presumably reinforced throughout her life. If Starlight was Isaac Newton, she showed Twilight the apple landing on her head, not the years spent writing papers and tinkering with equations that followed.
She revealed why she felt the need to make her town, why she felt that friendship needed to be forced the way she did in order to make something resembling a happy life for herself. Her revenge against Twilight was already explained from the start of this as trading one ruined life for another. She didn't know anything about putting Equestria as a whole at risk, and when Twilight explained she tried to deny and rationalize it away.
As far as villainous motivation goes, Starlight is standard: revenge against the heroes for ruining their plans.
I agree Starlight have one of the weakest backstory, even Moondancer had it worse, imo. But what makes it interesting is looking at her personality, it makes sense she would overreact and let things escalate to an insane level like that.
Guys, all those other villains you mentioned don't even have a proper backstory, at least not in the show (except for Nightmare Moon, and hers was also weak). You can't say their backstory was worse because we don't even know what happened, it's not a fair comparison.
Well, since you all simply wanted to share your opinion, I will add mine. Not attacking anyone (not trying to prove someone's opinion wrong) as long as they are not attacking mine. lol So, in my opinion: while her backstory was admittedly questionable I looked past it, because the reformation process itself (her stopping herself while she could dominate) was one of the most powerful reformations in the show, and because of her interesting character she turned out to be. :)
By questionable I mean that while the idea was great for that kind of back story, its presentation could use some work. Because that's the reason so many people saw it as weak and even hated Starlight's redemtion.
@Antroid I would say a better backstory but I don't want to spoil anything. Why are you getting so pressed a lot of people dislike Starlight's backstory and they have the right to because it's their own freaking opinion. Nowadays you always have to say "my opinion" cause people just attack you.
What others though? Name a better backstory. Nightmare Moon? Threw a tantrum because she felt entitled to everyone's love. Discord? Was a troll god and so was trollin'. Chrysalis? Wanted power. Sombra? Wanted power. Tirek? Wanted power. Sunset Shimmer? Wanted power. Pretty much all of the minor mid-season antagonists? Just assholes. I'm not gonna list any upcoming villain, but in my opinion only one of them has an actual backstory. I would say that their (again, no spoilery names), Starlight's and NMM's are the only ones in the whole show that have any emotional rationale and any complexity, the others are just two-dimensional.
Also, you sure didn't word it as an opinion, you definitely worded it as an objective statement :P
The only fault in Starlight's backstory is that she hypes it up a bit too much before showing what happened, and doesn't demonstrate any of her life between Sunburst leaving and her starting on the whole cult and cutie mark spell thing. They probably could've shown her stewing in her own misconseptions as a teenager and still not having friends or something like that. But there's absolutely enough there that's implied and you can absolutely see how she came to be who she was. Just because it wasn't spelled out in your face, and instead the show tried to leave something for the imagination (whether on purpose or due to overlooking it) doesn't mean it was weak.
This is probably my second (or maybe third, if you count The Best Night Ever as a finale) least favourite finale. Nothing against the actual meat of it, but the ending is pretty trash. Starlight definitely did not deserve to become Twilight's student without the rest of Equestria being informed about what happened.
Nah, it's communism. Sure, no relation to currency, but that could also suggest that everything is owned by the community. Also, writer M A Larson gave several hints about the episode being themed around communism.
Second I suggest, because there was before Pinkamena Diane Pie....that was scary, but in the end Starlight improved a lot and she has had outside Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash the most complete and satisfactory story arc of MLP as character growth
Ponybro: "starlight how does this benefit you.* Me: ponybro ... let me introduce the concept of revenge it doesn't need to benefit starlight just fuck over twilight
I wish I can actually make friends but everyone in school hates me and the only other place I can go to is my house cause my parents basiclly trap me here and I can never make other friends
True. A child's mind is much more susceptible to these ways of thinking. An adult acting this way is likely from ideas ingrained into their mind from a young age carried into adulthood.
I see you are skipping some fan stuff that came between seasons. I believe before season 5 there was at least Anthology II . Also you claim to be done with Friendship is Witchcraft but I don't see Friendship is Witchcraft:Horse Women as an upload. I stated this in the comments of your "Final" FiW upload.
Communism is a cult and the cult Starlight tried to introduce to Equestria is Communism. Communism is the cult built on the ideology of Socialism, which is the ideology of extreme equality.
I have a reaction request. Please react to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTcFKsHQBBs, I'm not going to tell you what it is, I want it to be a surprise, just know that it relates to Season 5 Episode 18. It is only 3 and a half minutes long.
Gonna take some days off from uploading since I did a whole damn season in one weekend. Hopefully give people a chance to get some resemblance of caught up. Thanks for sticking with me through it guys, I appreciate you all so much!
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37:16 I had to come back to this part because I laughed so hard about what he said about Sunbrust. "Who's this guy, and why does he have special fur?" đđ
0 likes@ThrustersX Yay, finally someone who agrees that season 6 is actually really good!
1 likebtw it was communism that starlight implemented
0 likesI'm such a huge fan of you I love your videos and I do love mlp
0 likesI like the think about the butterfly effects otherwise know as the what ifs.
0 likesI think there are two important battles in the pacific campaign of ww2. Can you name where they happen?
@Josh Blackwell I think season 6 is on average better then seasons 1,3 and 8. I consider all the seasons good though, even my least favorite is still a pretty good season, season 6 definitely has its highlights.
2 likesYou really look tired, yeah, take a couple of days to recover and rest... and maybe you could slow the rate of your airings. maybe one per day or one by two days..
1 likeIf you can react to some fanmade videos like MLP meets or fan fictions like Bride of DIscord or Daughter of DIscord and EG Friendship games... The Anthologies 3,4,5. my Kingdom for a horse 1 and 2... you have so much to watch before the season 6...
0 likesYeah, i thought so. Let everyone keep up. Funny, because it actually is the other way around for me, because i just love to watch every reaction you upload all one after another. Im always so fast, that i even watch your reactions faster then you upload them. ^^
5 likesThanks for reaction marathon mate.
2 likes@ThrusterX I agree season 6 is fun.
2 likesThank you for your reactions. I'm glad to review mlp again ... at least so brighten up the end
1 likeYeah. I don't fully get why it has a reputation of being meh. I mean, I do think 5 and 7 both definitely have amazing stuff, but so does season 6, and both 5 and 7 has episodes I'd consider boring or even stinkers, and I don't think 6 has significantly more of those than usual...
4 likesReally excited for you reacting on Season 6. It's one of the most fun season of the series.
15 likesAt the beginning she was sitting in Fluttershy's chair because it's all about the Butterfly Effect. The showrunners pull a lot of little stuff like that and I love it.
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An also fluttershy is the reason why rainbow dash did the rainboom and everyone got their marks
1 likeOMG THATS GENIUS
5 likesI also think she did it for irony since it was Fluttershy that splashed that water on her (mainly butterfly effect, but I like to imagine Starlight was thinking about that moment)
10 likes@OceanDragon Studios but that could be literally enything. Not just them. Like imadgin one where Apple Jack's mom and dad was still alive
10 likesMilena MarijanuĆĄiÄ basically a time travel theory about how a small change can cause different effects in the future kinda like what zecora said to twilight
52 likesWhat is Butterfly Effect?
7 likesTo this day, this is my favorite villain reformation in all of MLP. Unlike previous antagonists, Starlight was never defeated. While Nightmare Moon and Sunset Shimmer both wielded powerful dark magic and were cleansed by the Elements moments before they were reformed, Starlight remained firmly in control the whole time. She had the upper hoof throughout the entire two-parter, but she was already starting to see how futile and pointless her revenge scheme was from the moment Twilight showed her one of the alternate futures, which is why she switched from smug and boastful to openly aggressive. After Twilight truly listened to her and showed her there's a better way, Starlight surrendered out of her own free will, no Orbital Friendship Cannon necessary.
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Other kids shows: we reformed them bc we feel bad and they broken
2 likesMLP: they are too strong and we need to have her on our side or we are all doomed
Ever stop to think that the fact she could not be defeated is a plot contrivance in order to force her to be redeemed? It isn't a good story. It's lazy writing. Sunset Shimmer had the objectively best redemption despite being the least interesting villain.
4 likesYes! this is exactly why she's my favorite as well (and also because I love her personality in the later seasons lol)
5 likesStarlight was the most powerful villain.
6 likesIn my POV, sheâs the only villain that has a friendship problem back story while other villains are just power hungry taking over the world type. Starlight just wants to create her secluded utopia or dystopia so sheâs just getting revenge on Twilight. And personally Iâve had the same friendship problem as Starlight but most people donât so thereâs a lot of disagreement in the fandom. I once lost or grew apart from my friends when they got into famous universities while I didnât. So I grew bitter and found friends who I know arenât smart or overachievers so theyâll stay with me, but I learned that I couldnât grow and improve when Iâm surrounded by people who never strive to grow and improve, I needed to grow out of my comfort zone. Starlight losing Sunburst cause he got into a fancy school because of his cutie mark so she made friends by forcing ponies to be like her. Therefore, Starlightâs friendship problem require a friendship lesson to solve not a magical laser.
23 likesStarlight had the upper hoof in the finale, twilight couldn't stop her, her only way out of this was to make starlight rethink her doings or else equestria(and starlight included) is doomed. Sunset and luna did not really have a choice, discord could be turned back to stone but twilight was the only one who could stop starlight, and with that time spell starlight had a huge advantage(although she from some point of view didn't have a choice as well once she saw the future, she was couldn't win, either she takes twilights offer or keeps fighting and destroying equestria).
28 likesWhile this redemption was met with mixed results, it felt the most natural.
It's nice to see that even after the show has ended, people are still reacting to the show.
86 likesThis means Starlight, Twilight, and the rest will never truly be forgotten. (:
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@@supersonic2175 Gladly
1 likePeople still react to mlp today lol
5 likesSay that after like 20 years
4 likesIn any other show: Let's be her friend because we're so sorry for her
31 likesIn Friendship is Magic: Let's be her friend because she's too powerful and she could defeat us without sweating
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@North Productions Both are OK
5 likesWhy not both
8 likesTwilights magic is really improved like ALOT since season 1. Like teleportation for example. If you look at season 1 she barley teleported, and when she did it she would struggle a lot! But now she can teleport without even trying! Her horn doesnât even have to glow she just teleports.
16 likesRemember Lesson Zero, just because a problem doesn't seem all that big to you doesn't mean it isn't the end of the world to someone else.
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@Joshua Garcia 5 months late but... she really didn't believe that twilight and her friends were THAT important, and probably tired that this timeloop keeps happening
1 likealso, starlight > twilight is debatable, i mean in later episodes ("A Matter of Principals") starlight literally banished discord's physical form, i have never seen anything/anyone touches discord except for the Elements of Harmony, so yea
@Star Glitter Glow also Starlight was never more powerful than Twilight, she just had the upper hand with the time hax.
0 likes@Star Glitter Glow She believed what happened in the future.
0 likes@Star Glitter Glow if her intentions weren't to end Equestria as it was, then why does she still try to tear the spell after seeing what would happen to Equestria if she did.....
0 likes@Perytons Brainwashing and kidnapping people and using time travel to ruin peopleâs lives out of revenge is still something that deserves consequences. Just because she wasnât openly trying to be evil or destroy the world, at least not intentionally, it doesnât mean her actions were without extreme fault. Do you think if any of the Mane 6 tried to kidnap or brainwash an entire town of people that the other five would just shrug it off like nothing happened? Of course not, they would hold them accountable for their actions. They wouldnât forgive and forget without some serious work on the offending party to earn that trust again. The only person who ever holds Starlight accountable for her actions to a realistic extent is Starlight herself. She gets mad at herself for her actions and she worries that everyone will hate her for what she did, but this is completely meaningless as nobody else ever actually does stay upset with her, thereâs no one that she actually has to earn the trust of because everyone just trusts her automatically and indefinitely.
1 likeI want to reiterate that I donât dislike Starlight herself, but the only times I think sheâs really handled properly is when sheâs with Trixie because Trixie is the ONLY character that actually will get upset with Starlight and stay upset. Sheâs the only character Starlight ever has to put effort into getting their forgiveness. The fact that she can kidnap a princess, use time travel to ruin peopleâs lives, mess with the cutie marks of the countryâs monarchs, and brainwash an entire town and none of this has lasting consequences, thatâs what I find hard to believe.
@Jordan Dwiggins Actually, she gets scolded by Twilight and has to earn her friends' trust. Also, don't forget that MLP is first-and-foremost a slice-of-life show. We are literally only getting little pieces of the bigger picture. It's very possible Starlight was punished offscreen, considering several months pass between these two episodes and Season 6 in universe. That's plenty of time for Starlight to be punished the Equestrian way, which, since she showed genuine remorse for her actions, would make Celestia extremely lenient.
1 likeEven in the mind control episode, it was a case of "it seemed like a good idea at the time", and, again, she showed genuine remorse. Every single time Starlight has a magical accident, it's usually because her magic ran away from her. With the mind control, she never put ending clauses in her instructions and she left each one to their own devices. Anyone who knows programming knows you never do either of those things in coding and definitely never both at once.
@Jordan Dwiggins
11 likesStarlight didnât need to face consequences for her actions because unlike all the other villains, she wasnât looking to rule or destroy Equestria nor was she seeking power or oppression. Instead, she created a village where no pony felt superiority over another and thus, in her eyes, their friendship was eternal.
Later, she only wanted revenge against Twilight and her friends specifically since they took away her lifeâs work but never intended to completely alter history as she didnât believe Twilight and her friends were that important.
In the end, any damage Starlight had done to Equestria were alternate universes that never came to be since Starlight surrendered so there was really no point in punishing her at that point.
As for her redemption, that didnât come until the S6 finale where she essentially made up for her past actions by saving everyone and reforming the changelings.
Starlight isnât a real person. Iâm not trying to compare Starlightâs actions actions to Discordâs or Lunaâs, Iâm comparing the way their redemptions were handled by the writers. And I think Starlightâs was handled a lot worse. You can like Starlight herself and still think that.
5 likes@Star Glitter Glow As a said, Iâm not comparing them, Iâm comparing the way the other characters reacted to them. Trixie, Discord, Luna, Sunset, all of them had consequences for their actions and had to earn the trust of others in one way or another, and it took time. It didnât happen immediately. Starlight didnât have to do that at all.
3 likes@Jordan Dwiggins I'm going to give you a moment or two to think about why comparing Discord favorably to Starlight Glimmer might be a mind numbingly bad idea.
5 likesIâm not saying I think Starlight wanted to end the world of ruin the lives of the townspeople. But intentionally or not she DID make peopleâs lives far worse for a long stretch of time by controlling them, and she literally kidnapped the main characters. Iâm fairly certain that should be illegal. And unlike Trixie there was no evil amulet manipulating her, she just made horrible decisions.
2 likesEven if she didnât intend to end the world she very nearly did, and you would think doing something like that would have lasting consequences of some kind. I know lots of other shows have stuff like this with characters doing far worse things and being talked down and forgiven (Naruto, Fairy Tail, Steven Universe) but that doesnât stop this trend from being lazy to me. Those townspeople who chased her down into the caves the last time they saw her would not instantly forgive her after what she did to them. Thatâs just not realistic.
@Star Glitter Glow Iâm just saying, look at the other major reformed characters. Luna had a whole episode early in Season 2 about trying to get people to no longer be scared of her. Discord had an entire episode about how no one but Fluttershy really believed in his reformation, and honestly that didnât change very quickly going forward. Half the mane 6 were ready to turn him to stone as soon as he showed up in the Season 4 premier.
4 likesSunset had to go through all of Rainbow Rocks and help defeat another villain before the school would start trusting her again.
Up until Season 5 every major villain reformation took time, they had to earn peopleâs trust, which is far more believable than the instant forgiveness and no hard feelings way of doing things they used from Season 5 going forwards. I am not saying this ruins Starlightâs redemption or anything, but it does make it feel a lot lazier in its execution and it set a precedent going forward that Iâm not a fan of.
@Jordan Dwiggins She'd messed up, everything she'd ever worked for had been taken away, and now even her revenge was no longer viable. She was at her emotional lowest in that moment which made her unpredictable, less logical and more dangerous but also put her at her most open to being talked down, which is what happened.
6 likesWhatever crimes or incidents happen later are absolutely irrelevant as they aren't tied in to her motivations here, and we don't know how much she practiced in secret so we can't say for sure where her skill level SHOULD be without speculating hard.
As for any gripes about her being easily forgiven, hi, welcome to My Little Pony, you must be new here.
@Star Glitter Glow I do agree with your first point to an extent, but she did still come extremely close to ripping apart the time spell even after being directly shown the consequences of her actions. I know that it would be hard to believe Twilightâs words given how absurd they sound, but she saw it with her own eyes.
4 likesRegardless of that, she started a cult where she acted as a dictator and she kidnapped the Mane 6 and stole their cutie marks from them. And yet when she goes back to said town nobody is upset, nobody has any problem forgiving her immediately. None of the characters in the show seem to show any hesitation forgiving Starlight except for Starlight herself. Thatâs what frustrates me. Itâs not so much that I dislike Starlight herself as much as I dislike how she has zero consequences or repercussions for her actions. Itâs really hard to believe. And it doesnât help that she continues to use her magic as an extreme solution to problems time after time going forward without thinking of the consequences, but it works out for her because no one ever reprimands her for it. She literally mind controls the others in an episode and itâs just laughed off like nothing. She messes with the rulers of the countryâs cutie marks and gets away scot free. It feels like the writers give her a free pass to do whatever ideas they want to try but know that their other characters are too sensible to attempt.
As for the second point I donât exactly disagree, I just still think itâs a bit hard for me to believe given that Starlight spent a decent part of her life not even using her magic openly while Twilight has been studying it her whole life, including under Celestia, was considered a childhood prodigy and is also an alicorn.
Being an alicorn doesnât always help against extremely powerful creatures like Discord or Chrysalis, but it clearly makes one a great deal more powerful than a regular unicorn.
@Jordan Dwiggins A few things worth noting.
22 likes1) Starlight wasn't trying, nor did she ever try to destroy the world. Her actions almost caused the end, but her intentions were never that. She didn't even believe Twilights claims that her actions were causing the end of the world because, let's face it, the idea that only, and only, those six being able to do literally anything about any evil that shows up is a bit of a hard pill to try and swallow. If she was trying to destroy the world then she wouldn't need to express any doubts about it.
2) Twilight's not all powerful. The element of magic is a magical source of friendship energy that doesn't really hold a world of sway when she's isolated from the other element bearers. The only time the element of magic ever had power on its own was when it was taken to the human world and there it was hinted that those were special rules when Sunset pop quizzes Twilight on what happens when you take an element into a different world, and as for being an alicorn that's literally never helped Celestia.
Itâs hard to take Starlight seriously given that her excuse for trying to literally destroy the world was the same excuse Moondancer had, and she just became a shut-in. Regardless of how good Starlight ends up later at some points this is still the most ridiculous excuse for someone trying to destroy the world Iâve seen in this show. At least most of the other characters with seemingly minor reasons like Luna, Sunset and Stigeon all are clearly being corrupted through magical means to go far beyond the extent they normally would have. That isnât true for Starlight. Thereâs also the problem that Starlight being stronger than Twilight here is really hard for me to believe. Twilight is the literal element of magic and an alicorn while Starlight is a normal unicorn who spent a large part of her life in a town where she couldnât openly practice magic. How is she stronger than Twilight here? It feels a bit contrived to me.
8 likesYes... that's true.. .
3 likes"For you, [it] was the most important day of your life. For me it was Tuesday."
25 likesThat's also the thing about "Amending Fences" :J
28 likes19:22 "This voice actress is great. She's getting into it!"
59 likesAll hail Kelly Sheridan, a voice that has inspired many dreams and nightmares.
Just to put into perspective what Twilight means by friendships falling apart because she never meets her friends:
25 likesNo mane six? No cutie mark crusaders. No cutiemark crusader? More bullies and less ponies finding their purpose.
No mane six? No Princess sisterhood. Celestia and Luna never makeup and Celestia stays trapped in the moon.
No mane six? No Cadence. Twilight never went to magic school because she failed her test. Shining Armor therefore never fell in love with her babysitter. No Princess Cadence leads to no protection over the crystal empire and thus King Sombra returns. Celestia couldn't take him by herself.
No mane six? Pinkie stays on her rock farm for who knows how long and thus doesn't bring the ponies she meets together through joy and laughter perhaps until much later in her life.
No mane six? Fluttershy and Rainbow don't become friends through flight school because Fluttershy flunks out due to her fears. Rainbow becomes just as snooty as Guilda was.
No mane six? Because the elements stayed dormant, there was no one to stop Discord once he was free.
No mane six? No elements. Even if they still "connected" with the elements, they'd serve no purpose if they were not friends. Harmony is needed.
They're import and really do have a butterfly effort on those around them.
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And technically. Starlights friendship with Sunburst "ending" led to no mane six which led to all that
7 likesYes, Starlightâs origin was a little weak, but we must remember that what she showed Twilight was only the beginning, and that many years passed between then and her forming the village. I think why she ended up how she did was because she didnât know how to deal with the pain of losing a friend and that pain slowly became worse over time until she couldnât bare it and had to find something to blame it on, cutie marks.
129 likesYouâll be seeing more of Starlightâs character believe me. I also find her pretty relatable, like how even a something that seems small can mean a lot, like Twilightâs offer of friendship, and how even a problem that on the outside seems insignificant can cause such a deep pain that others canât understand. . . Perhaps one reason Starlight turned out how she did is because she never confided in anyone the pain she felt, thinking that it shouldnât have been such a big deal? And growing up simply bottled up her emotions until she snapped? Itâs just a theory, but when you really think about It, it isnât at all far fetched to say that loosing a friend (and perhaps only friend) at such a young age could make somepony turn out the way she did many years later.
Anyway, wonderful reaction! Looking forward to what you think of certain episodes in season 6.
Sincerely, Guardian Blade the positive analyzer.
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I 100% agree. When I was around 13 or 14, my friend moved away and we lost touch. Iâve gotten over it, but sometimes that rejection is still there. Obviously Iâm not like Starlight, but that rejected feeling? It feels like you can never make a friend again, and when you do, you sometimes feel like youâll be rejected again. So I too can totally relate to Starlight Glimmer
0 likesMakes sense!
4 likesShe literally lost "everything" because of a cutie mark. I think that is a pretty valid reason to be upsetâŠ.
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Not to mention your younger years are contribute to some of the most vital lessons and perspectives.
2 likes@Skitty It so many characters had to face some kind of consequence for their actions, even non villain ones. Heck, the CMC had faced a little punishment from from time to time. Like when they had to clean up the rodeo after they ran off to find Troubleshoos against Applejack's orders. Starlight never faced any real consequence for her actions, and she never did learn from them. Which is the real purpose for punishment, It teaches them that it is wrong, and they should never do that again. But she didn't learn her mistake, as she continued to use her magic recklessly. First like when she made Big Mac talk with a spell. She was still so used to bringing ponies under her will. Also when she made the mane six do things under her spell as well, forgot the name of that episode. And let's not forget switching the Cutie Marks of the princesses..... Which I think was only plot that it all went right in the end. Though it only went right because of the princesses themselves. She had absolutely no control of what the outcome would have been because of her actions. Through none of these did it go wrong for her personally, the only ones that were affected in a bad way were the ones she did it to. This is why she should have been punished in the beginning, it would have taught her NOT to do all these things. And I think I would have known a perfect punishment, and this may be harsh. But it should still be better than being banished to the Moon, or sent to Tartarus. Or turned to Stone. And her magic was the source of all of her wrongdoings. So, have Discord snap her horn away. For a certain amount of time, strip her from her magic temporarily. Then have her do community work, just like an earth pony would with her Hooves and her mouth. I personally think that would have been a suitable enough punishment. Then when it is over she can get her horn back, then officially become Twilight's star pupil. Most may think this is pretty harsh, but hey she took the ponies special talents away. Which is one of the worst things you could do in Equestria, lied to them. Then messed with time itself, which would have resulted in the destruction of Equestria. So yes, this would have been a suitable punishment. Then I would like her even more than I do now, yes I do like the pony she became. But that one part is still missing from her.
7 likes@Joshua Garcia And it wasn't like everyone else knew about what she did either. She nearly destroyed Equestria, and after a quick apology she simply became Twilight's student and nopony was any the wiser. Most probably thought that Twilight just took her on with no knowledge of what nearly happened.
11 likesMeanwhile, Trixie boasts about a great magical feat as part of an entertainment routine, and manages to successfully take down hecklers, then a couple of idiot colts take her seriously and stupidly enough to bring an Everfree Monster to town (which destroys her home and livelihood) and yet Trixie is the one run out of town and made a mockery of.
Driven to the brink, she gets an artifact desperate to beat Twilight, but it corrupts her to the point where she becomes evil (under severe magical influence) and when her major apology tours happen, she is rebuked again and again, makes one final mistake, costing her the only friend she has left...and attempts suicide.
Talk about disproportionate punishment.
Not a valid reason to ruin the lives of others. Had Twilight not convinced her, Equestria would have been left in shambles. Her little sad background story was never a good excuse for her crimes. And her being automatically forgiven doesn't mean she actually atoned herself, just means she was let off easy. The ponies are just that forgiving, it's kind of annoying at times. It was as if she was rewarded for everything she did, immediately becoming Twilight's star student. Becoming an Alicorn's student is not something that happens to every unicorn, it's a dream come true for whoever it happens to.
17 likesAnd so ends one of the best seasons of MLP that Iâve ever seen. This finale was very interesting, having to deal with time traveling and alternate timelines. It felt so good to see some of our favorite Equestrian villains return in these timelines (Sombra, Chrysalis, Nighmare Moon, Tirek, etc.). Starlight may have been one of the best antagonists of the whole show, she certainly has great potential in her magical abilities, so good that they rival Twilightâs magic. I did feel bad for her when we saw her origin story here and I had hoped that she would see the error of her ways and Iâm glad she did in the end. Now that Starlight is part of the Mane Cast, things are gonna get more interesting in the next season!
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twist58 Well, yeah. But it also has a lot of episodes that appear very often in top 5 personal favourites to this day. Including mine.
2 likestwist58 Yes, those misdeeds of hers did seem pitiful and unreasonable, but there are times when people go through horrible experiences and in turn make bad decisions because of said experience. Starlight thought she was doing the world a favor by having every pony not going through the same experience that she did with Sunburst, but she was really holding everyone back from embracing their special talents.
11 likesSpacialRend7 If I recall, this season finale had mixed reactions from various fans. Starlightâs reasons behind these misdeeds felt petty and not enough to go on about in terms of proper character development.
5 likesTime travel is one of the coolest & confusing things ever.
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0 likes@FusionOmni The time travel mentioned in this video is the correct type https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3zTfXvYZ9s
0 likes@Romero Yeah, I don't understand why nobody notices this. Everybody is like "oh fun, an another time travel episode, we haven't seen time travel since 'It's About Time' ", but nobody is like "hold on a minute, in 'It's About Time' time travel worked like a loop, where you're forced to do the actions that lead the you time traveling to the past, but here you are able to change the course of events and the future and stuff, why are there these two different forms of time travel?"
1 like@Romero Those two time travel tropes aren't really that inconsistent. It's just that in "It's About Time", Twilight created something called a "time loop". She still could have changed her future, but a good time loop is made in such a way that the more you try to change it, the more you're doing precisely the thing that pushes you into that loop in the first place, so you only reinforce the loop. To escape a time loop, one usually has to do something very opposite to what one would normally do in that particular situation. And the hardest thing is usually to figure out what exactly is that thing that causes the time loop in order to be able to change it. Check out Snst's BkStgPss for an example of such a loop and how to escape it. (I obfuscated the title to avoid potential spoilers for PonyBro.)
9 likesIn this episode (S5 finale), there are multiple timelines actually, and they don't quite replace each other. If they did, the Twilight we follow would have to lose her cutie mark, in accordance with her modified past. And yet she doesn't, because she's originally from a different timeline (the original one we all know). We see Starlight changing the outcome of the race for filly Rainbow Dash, and this kinda "switches the track" to the time line in which the sonic rainboom never happened, both for Starlight and the Twilight we follow. So when she returns to her present, it is now a DIFFERENT present, on a DIFFERENT time line â the one in which the sonic rainboom never happened. Her original time line is still there, but it became inaccessible to her for now. In order to access it, she would have to go back to the past again, and change her course to the original timeline BEFORE Starlight Glimmer modified it (which, as we know, she protected herself against, because the scroll will bring her back to the moment before Twilight's arrival).
Interestingly, when the season finale ends, the original timeline isn't really restored either! :> Let me explain:
In the original timeline, there was no Starlight and Twilight at Rainbow Dash's race. She did the sonic rainboom because there was no pony to stop her.
In this seemingly original timeline, however, Rainbow Dash finished her race from a very different reason! â she finished it because Starlight Glimmer allowed her to do so :> So now Starlight Glimmer is actually part of their past and she is the reason that connected them together by allowing the sonic rainboom to happen :g You can picture it as railroads that switch sides for a little while and then switch back. We're kinda on the same track now, but its history follows a different path, with a short kink that wasn't there before ;) Original: ______ Current: __/"""\______
It's actually inconsistent in this series, they use 2 different time travel rules, the first on that Twilight episode and the 2nd here.
15 likesOn the Twilight episode, the future could not be changed, you traveling back through time is already accounted in the past.
In this episode the future can be changed, there are no multiple timelines either, the previous future is simply replaced.
But I have a theory to "fix" this plot hole: The spell was created by Star Swirl, I think he put a safety measure to prevent people from changing the past, which resulted in our first case. But Starlight removed it when she changed the spell, making the time travel works as it should.
The rules are confusing. Does the change affect the current timeline or make it split into multiples? If the timeline is restored, what happens to the altered one? How is it determined what timeline the characters travel back to at the end? It always puzzles me.
1 likeIm gonna dive a bit into Starlight's possible (hypothetical series of events) psychology behind her motivation. She was very young when Sunburst got his Cutie Mark, moments later he left never to return. So she tried her best to rationalize what happened but again she was very young, so her concepts of how things work was not fully developed yet. She associated Sunburst getting his Cutie Mark with him leaving. Which led to a distrust in Cutie Marks. Confusion and distrust can easily turn into anger with notions of abandonment, which she clearly would have felt. Unchecked anger will eventually become bitterness if the person/pony continues to hold a grudge, again she clearly has. As time passes and she gets older, she takes steps to avoid ever feeling abandoned again so she does solo things like study magic and finds she is pretty good at it, eventually and inevitably getting her Cutie Mark (her talent is shown here a bit and more later but I'm pretty sure its mixing spells/magic). While studying, she finds that magic can do pretty much whatever she wants with the right combination of spells. Skip forward a bit, mix a longstanding unchecked grudge against Cutie Marks and magic that turns everything up to 11 with abandonment issues, and voila you get an ideology where she believes nopony should have a Cutie Mark, and uses an equality argument to justify her beliefs. As we will see in the future and some up to this point, the ponies of Equestria are quite gullible. So it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine that Starlight wouldn't have much difficulty convincing individuals of her "Equality Speech" and to join her in her "equality", repeat the last step a few times and there you have it, a cult.
12 likesprobably way off base with that, but thats how i could see her having gotten to where she was and her motivation, while kinda weak, was still valid
Glim Glam was a perfect addition to the group dynamic. The snarky, no sugarcoating, tell it like it is position was vacant for to long.
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Applejack probably should have been filling that role. Ya know, Element of Honesty and allâŠ
1 like"Let's go with.... you ruined everything all the time?" said the purple horse while smiling. I love Glimglam
1 likeI miss snarky Season One Twilight, but Reformed!Starlight is a great substitute.
6 likesThis finale is awesome, almost as season 4 finale. I love twilights speech to make starlight change.
11 likesI know some people might think Starlights origin story is weak, contrived, or just outright silly. But I honestly think itâs perfectly logical.
4 likesFor me personally, I know the pain of seeing people getting recognition for their talents and feeling extremely left behind. The resentment and envy is horrible. And just imagine how much worse it is in a world where a core part of you is meant to be your talent? Itâs just in Starlights face ALL the time. As she grew up, she probably saw more and more ponies getting their cuties marks and was constantly reminded of how and why đ she lost her best friend. If you ask me, itâs perfectly reasonable and plausible that this would make her absolutely hate cutie marks and wish to strip them off ponies. Even if equality isnât what she actually wanted, maybe what she actually wanted was to not see anybody succeed anymore to lessen the pain for herself.
To this day, I still think the reason Starlight didn't rip up the spell right away is because she wanted Twilight to reach her and convince her things could be better. She pretty much gave Twilight every opportunity to do so. She is smart enough to know that drawing it out like this would really only benefit Twilight by giving her time to stop her.
11 likesTwilight did say in the premier that she hoped what she said would reach Starlight. And I actually think it did. Though she stll had some doubts which led her to kind of a Xanatos Gambit here. And Starlight was betting on Twilight giving a convincing speech to talk her down.
Great reaction as always! Starlight can be... divisive... to fans, but I'm glad you're on board with her reformation. She's one of my favorites. I think you'll enjoy what's to come. Season 5 is probably my favorite overall season.
19 likesI remember when I first watched this finale, the last shot of all the ponies looking at the viewer, it felt like series finale rather than just season finale.
26 likesLittle did I know then that the series was barely past half of itself. Heck, back then, I was just glad when they confirmed season 6!
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@Gabriel Zamudio Yeah, he was staring at Fluttershy đ
0 likesHey I just commented but did you see that bulk biceps was the only one not looking forward at the end.
1 likeThat would actually be a pretty solid series finale, if not the fact that they've just introduced a new member to the main cast and it would be uncool to leave that hanging :J
3 likesActually if you think about it, Fluttershy is actually the one that started the events. Without Fluttershy getting bullied there is no need for rainbow to defend her and without that no race and no sonic rainboom. No one ever realize what this episode was hinting at. Fluttershy is the true cause.
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Starlight even knew that when she stopped the bullies from teasing Fluttershy!
3 likesThe best introduction the the main cast is finally here, I hope you enjoy her reformed character .
7 likesThe best season ever. I love this season 97%
10 likes26:02 "I don't trust that kid, it's a changeling!"
39 likesWow, even when you're joking you're predicting stuff!
...You were joking, weren't you?
No matter how amazing the other seasons were, season 5 is my favorite
1 likeStarlight is voiced by Kelly Sheridan. Shes the voice of Barbie, Sango from Inuyasha, Scarlet Witch from X-Men Evolution, Ukyo from Ranma, and many other characters.
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YES I KNEW SHE SOUNDED FAMILIAR.
1 likeItâs very interesting how whenever you have a story involving time travel thereâs always the possibility of when I call: âthe itâs a wonderful life principleâ basically just one persons life affects so many people that just taking that single personality equation affects things so much that is it any wonder the taking out six would cause a massive change.
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If you like that kind of stuff, I encourage you to watch "Touch" TV series ;>
0 likesThe reason for Starlight Glimmer to join the main cast after reforming was because Twilight had made so much progress, that the next step in her character development was to become a mentor to someone else. Starlight Glimmer was someone who needed someone like Twilight to teach her. Plus, the addition of Starlight Glimmer gave the main cast someone who was more three dimensional. Her progression also provided an interesting character development story arc.
2 likesI've been putting it off for a few weeks since the show ended, but I've finally started ranking every episode of the show, and I've gotten through the first five seasons. And since you're going through the show at such a brisk pace, I'm going to rank them as I rewatch them along with you.
4 likesSince nobody asked, here are my top 5 and bottom 5 of the show through the first five seasons:
TOP 5
1. Amending Fences
2. The Cutie Map (with a slight edge to part 2 over part 1)
3. Hurricane Fluttershy
4. Pinkie Pride
5. Sleepless in Ponyville
BOTTOM 5
5. Look Before You Sleep
4. Griffon the Brush Off(rewatching the series, I forgot how unenjoyable this episode was)
3. Bats! (probably a controversial pick; I remember CobaltSky7 said this was actually his favourite episode of season 4, but I couldn't stand it)
2. Putting Your Hoof Down
1. The Mysterious Mare Do Well (I haven't watched this one in years, but I know I despised it when I first saw it. It's also no coincidence that the bottom three are all by the same writer.)
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Aw man, I love Look Before You Sleep!
1 likeTo this day seeing the Flim and Flam apocalypse always makes me crack up
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They ran out of major villains. A shame that Stygian and Cozy Glow hadnât been introduced yet.
4 likesEspecially since Twilight says each one was worse than the last and those two showed up after all of the other major villains
4 likes"Bloomberg snapped." Love it. I actually choked.
14 likesI always kinda figured the wasteland was the future that Starlight would create...with nothing left alive everyone was finally equal.
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I always thought it was the result of the Windigos, but your theory is a lot darker (and I love it!).
2 likesI always debate between which season finale is greater; season 4 or season 5.
16 likesOn one hand (or hoof), S4 was more impactful and more exciting and had a better song. On the other, S5 was more suspenseful and conceptually brilliant and had a stronger villain (In terms of character structure).
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Funny you should mention this, because I just recently knocked the S5 finale down to 2nd place in favor of Twilightâs Kingdom.
0 likesWhat if Starlight wanted to prevent Sunburst from getting his cutie mark and Twilight had to let her make the right decision to let it happen or not? I think that would have added another layer to her backstory.
2 likes1. Twilightâs Kingdom
2 likes2. The Cutie Re-Mark
3. The Ending of the End
4. To Where and Back Again
5. Shadow Play
6. A Canterlot Wedding
7. School Raze
8. Magical Mystery Cure
9. The Best Night Ever
I actually used to consider this the best season finale (and by extension the best two episodes) of the entire show! However, after rewatching the masterpiece that is Twilightâs Kingdom a couple months ago, I decided to bump The Cutie Re-Mark down to 2nd place.
In any case, this finale absolutely slaps. Not only do we witness the return and eventual reformation of Starlight Glimmer, but we also get to see all of our favorite villains from 5 yearsâ worth of pony!
The books are Canon to the series lore, in the starlight glimmer book (after watching season 6 opener at least) we can see a small glimpse of starlight's true power and it speaks a lot seeing how twilight is surprised by it.
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You know what's the most ironic about that? :q
3 likesThat Celestia is trying so hard to gather all those ĂŒber-powerful Unicorns in her special School for Gifted Unicorns, and she even got Sunburst there, and yet she missed Starlight Glimmer who seems to be the most powerful of them so far :D And all of that despite the fact that she was literally in the same village and the same place with Sunburst ;D
As a reminder and update, hereâs a rundown of the showâs timeline again:
2 likes1. Season 5
2. Equestria Girls: Friendship Games
3. Season 6
4. Equestria Girls: Legend of Everfree
5. Season 7
6. My Little Pony: The Movie
7. Season 8
8. Best Gift Ever
9. Season 9
In between there, you need to do the Equestria Girls specials Dance Magic, Movie Magic, and Mirror Magic. I recommend after Season 7. Thereâs also the web series of Equestria Girls, the Choose Your Own Ending series, and the specials Forgotten Friendship, Rollercoaster of Friendship, Spring Breakdown, Holidays Unwrapped, and Sunsetâs Backstage Pass. More details will come later
It wasnât just Twilightâs friendship that causes the future. Because Starlights ended she ended up enslaving towns and destroying the future.
2 likesSunset Shimmer Reformation was good but since it was 1 movie it was rushed, with Starlight Glimmer you are about to experience one of the best character developments in the series
4 likesBy the way, since starlight made the spell, it has a set time and place. Twilight didnât change âstarlightâsâ spell which is why starlight and twilight were in pretty much the same spot every time at the same period I. Time
6 likes"I think she's more powerful than Twilight with her magic."
15 likesIn terms of raw power, Starlight is more powerful than Twilight was-when she was still a unicorn. But Alicorn magic is a whole other thing, as you saw in the battle against Tirek. Twilight is also a more advanced scholar than Starlight; she has studied more arcane magics and has access to the complete Canterlot Library.
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Based on several factors (extensive self-levitation, the cutie mark removal spell, and the major alterations to Starswirlâs time travel spell), I honestly think Starlight is more powerful than even alicorn Twilight. Also, Starlight broke out of the crystal imprisonment thing way faster than Twilight could (33:34).
1 like@Niclas W. yea. but she did manage to control it that's impressive itself
4 likesbut twilight had the power of 4 alicorns when she fought against tirek
12 likesThis episode is full of dark elements. The sombra future is a war, with all the support of the citizens. Chrysalis kills zecora, and dooms pony kind.
4 likesStarlight is bitter and misguided, she did in the premier what she thought was best for her and thought it would not harm other ponies, here she wanted to crush twilight but she did not know that she would doom equestria by doing so. I guess she didn't follow and studied twilight good enough :P
Anyway, there is a cool PMV for this episode, if you want you can watch it https ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPzJSUJ7dlE
22:45 I still can't believe the animators got that face past Hasbro.
7 likesYes! It makes me so happy that you're in the camp that loves Starlight Glimmer!! I love her too. ^_^
7 likesSadly though, she is probably THE most divisive character ever created; Bronies are evenly split on whether they love her or hate her, and those that do hate on her do so for the two weakest reasons...that "she's OP as fuck" and/or "she was too easily and quickly forgiven". Such ridiculousness. >:(
Finally, someone with a positive reaction to Starlight's reforming.
3 likesGrandfather Paradox: Starlight's plan is one, since if the Rainboom never happened, the Mane Six couldn't have beaten her to trigger her revenge plan in the first place.
2 likesWe have arrived at last to the end of the beginning to Starlight's arc. All praise her, long may she reign!
4 likesGreat reaction PonyBro, and I don't just say that as a Starlight fan lol :P Though I'm of course happy to see people appreciate her reformation. I personally thought her dialogue with Twilight was a very powerful moment, especially Twilight's "I guess you'll just have to make sure they won't". It's my favorite reformation in the show, up there with Discord's, because you see the turmoil the antagonist goes through and how they're changing their mind and why.
18 likesAnyway, to give my answers to some of the small questions you had. These are not definitive, but only my assumptions, mind.
- Twi's friends still got their cutie-marks probably because nothing about who they ultimately are was altered, so they were always gonna get the same cutie-marks no matter what, but they didn't end up becoming friends because all the circumstances changed. Heck, even if Twi herself got the same cutie-mark, I assume it's entirely possible she never became Celestia's personal student.
- Nightmare Moon just seems to forget teleportation exists. (You asked why she didn't expect Twi to teleport herself, and Spike out of his chains.) Remember in the pilot when Twilight was able to fool her by just charging at her and teleporting past her at the last moment? It's a stretch, but I find the idea hilarious: NMM just somehow missed the fact that unicorns can teleport, lol. I'm not sure if there's any teleportation shown in a flashback to her time, maybe the spell was invented after she got banished?
Actually, these two questions were the only ones I remember and only one of them was even fully serious, so whatevs. :>
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In the pilot it's strongly implied that Twilight learned the teleport spell from watching Nightmare Moon do it.
1 likeI think it's just more likely that most unicorns don't know how to teleport. We see so few do it, and future NMM didn't even notice that Twilight was an alicorn, so it wouldn't be too far of a stretch.
1 likeYeah, I'm a huge Glimmy fan. My favorite character in the show by far and, as I always say, she pretty much helped reinvigorate my interest in the show after it dipped during season 4. Even the greatness of season 5 alone wasn't turning out to be quite enough, but GlimGlam's reintroduction as a good guy definitely boosted it back up and above what it's ever been.
5 likesI wouldn't say it was a difficult journey for me personally though, as most of the time when I saw people bitching about Starlight, the tone and content of their comments tended to look pretty childish so I didn't really care about their opinions much. And when I saw an opinion against Glimmy that I could respect due to the person's reasoning and/or maturity, it didn't bother me either.
Did you say... Starlight Glimmer fan? :D Me too!
5 likesIt sure was a difficult journey for us, Starlight fans, to endure the pressure from so many people in the fandom being against her those years...
5 seasons done, 4 seasons left. Good job, man! I'm so proud of you!
4 likesStarlight's villain motivation suffered a little because the finale was a lot more focused on showing us fun alternate timelines, so I can forgive the writers for dropping the ball there. Starlight becomes one of the most entertaining characters in the show in my opinion ^^
5 likesTwilight can levitate herself. She doesnât because she has wings.
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Yea she did it in the Crystal Empire and also levitated her and her friends at the end of the season 3 finale.
2 likesto be fair i didn't develop it much or actually write it or anything but for years before this episode came out i would occasionally ponder an idea i had for a fic or comic or something that would be a "what if the sonic rainboom never happened" story. then when this episode came out i was so mad lmao. damn my procrastination
1 likethey took it in a different direction than i would have (mine involved doctor whooves and derpy for a start lmao) though which is pretty interesting
(don't ask for details btw cause i've forgotten them all lmao. except i think all the mane six were adult blank flanks in mine)
I guess the third apperance of starlight glimmer is still a mystery. The confirmed episode are Amending fences, and what about discord. They hint at a third appreance. But no on has been able to find it.
6 likes6:33 "You're sitting on Fluttershy's chair!"
19 likesBecause butterfly effect, get it?
36:00 Don't be silly. Clearly this was Gummy's doing. His existential crisis reached critical mass.
4 likesAlso I just realized that Starlight was in more seasons than she wasn't. Huh. But seriously, if you like Starlight that much, there are a few episodes next season I can't wait for you to see. And in general I think you'll love season 6. Honestly based on what you've enjoyed so far, I don't see you ever having a bad season.
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@Bon Bon they are good writers. You cant continue a show forever. People get old, time gets lost. The ending was so nice.
0 likes@Winter Oh, how many times I heard that old adageâŠ
0 likesIf the writers were really that much "out of ideas", then they're clearly not the right people for the job, if fans can come up with such ideas every day. Heck, if they were really out of ideas, they could have at least explore the ideas that were never explored to its fullest in the show. Writers and their ideas were the least problem here.
@Bon Bon I think season 9 was the perfect time to end the show. The writers were clearly starting to run out of good ideas for episodes & friendship lessons.
0 likes@Bon Bon Well there's the comics, though their season 10 isn't the same continuity.
0 likesOh there will be a bad season: season 10. Because of the fact that it doesn't exist :(
0 likesI loved Starlight as an antagonist. While I don't agree that her motivation is lacking, I very much do see where people are coming from with that line of thought, and I do think the shows portrayal of her motivation fell very flat compared to how it should have been.
2 likesHowever, her being reformed led to her being my second favorite character, so I can't be too dissapointed on the lack of antagonist Starlight.
I still kind of think Starlight should've been arrested(or another equal punishment) for a few months or something! Even though I do understand the episodes might've been written a little differently, or experienced differently
7 likes(Lol We all kind of wished she stayed full villain too dude)
But the aspects of her arc and how it all ended was great, perfect even, would not change them!
Nice reactions~
27:25 Me too, zecore kills it with that line.
3 likes31:56 Most adorable evil laugh ever
5 likesThere was no reason for her to do this, it was purely for revenge. I doubt she even knew that doing this would have endangered civilization in three separate ways.
2 likesIt's why I think it's a great plot device, she's so full of blind hate that she dooms everyone.
>Best pony has joined the chat. Reminder to say, "Welcome!"
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Rarity is the best but Starlight is my second favorite character.
1 likeWellcum
13 likesWelcome to the group, Starlight!
12 likesOnce you are caught up with the series, you should check out DWK Totally Legit Recap. His humour will be totally up your alley.
2 likesConcerning fan-animations: From now you can spoiler-free react to tiarawhy's MLP animations.
Later I would recommend you give Agrolchannel and ForgaLorga a watch.
This is my favorite Season finale in this series
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Not surprised that other people are still watching this
3 likesLooks like we both decided to watch/rewatch this reaction tonight :P
2 likes16:25 "Wait, is her wing metal?"
7 likesThat's so metal.
Nightmare Moon seems unfazed that Twilight is an alicorn.
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Probably since Celestia was the most powerful alicorn and also small (all alicorns are more similar to horses as height) she undestimated her plus probably Nightmare Moon doesn't know the mechanics beyond teleportation spell, only a form of vampiric mist form
1 likePeople say the waste land timeline is what would've happened if sunset shimmer wasn't defeated and came to equestria
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Never heard that one before. I always thought it might be the Windigos.
1 like"Why does she look like a cat?" All the ponies do, if you remove their manes.
11 likes01:04 Admit it, you want to get to season 6 as fast as possible so that you could finally check out DWK's content ;J
2 likes01:42 THAT'S DEVIOUS! ]:> (wink wink ;) )
02:28 Who are you and what have you done to Twilight? She does not forget stuff! :q
04:30 Gee, how did it get there... ;)
05:00 [not actual footage]
05:14 :>
08:20 Good question.... (about that pavement not sinking into clouds)
09:06 I wonder where did she find it. The only possible place is Starwirl's wing in Canterlot Archives, unless she knows some other location... ;>
09:25 She almost messed up the past herself :q Good that Spike stopped her :s
10:42 Nope, this Twilight is from the original world line. Her past is still OK.
10:48 Yeah, it's pretty hard, because it's pretty much like pulling yourself up by your boot straps :q However, Twilight can do that too: she did that in season 3 premiere, after falling from those stairs in Sombra's castle.
10:56 Yeah, but she's also a script kiddie ;) She used someone else's spell and only modified it slightly to do that time travel spell.
11:04 I guess it's kinda like in "The Matrix": so that the viewers could recognize which world they're in currently.
11:34 :D
11:55 I hope so :q Because otherwise I would have to think that Starlight shat all over that table, and that there's blood in her stool :D
12:08 GHOSTBUSTERS! :D (sorry, I couldn't resist ;D )
14:57 Good question. However I'm not sure if she would be that useful without her cutie mark. (Hopefully still good at reading and acquiring knowledge, though :q )
15:06 Judging by how Applejack acts, I think the more important question is: where's Apple Bloom? :q Because I don't see her anywhere around :/ (Which makes this situation much more dark if you think of the possible implications :q )
16:18 Full Metal Rainbow Dash :J
17:03 Theoretically, they can still become friends :J Just saying...
18:12 That's a very hard problem indeed: how to stop a time traveller who can bend the time to always be one step ahead of you? :g Starlight Glimmer planned that very well ;> That's why she's the most clever villain ;>
20:36 I love how she framed Twilight into a setting in which she cannot win without being a total ass :D Brilliant ;>
22:22 Rainbow Dash: "I need an adult" :J
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@Bon Bon This comment made me laugh
0 likes@Winter Sometimes I think that's none of your business what I do with my time.
1 likeSometimes I think you might have too much free time on your hands đ
0 likes24:13 Now it looks like a real mohawk :J
0 likes24:30 If it is what I think it is, then I think no pony would stand still when covered in it :q
25:35 In this case, this timeline was not caused by stopping Rainbow Dash â this time she stopped the bullies who teased Fluttershy. A different cause leads to a different timeline.
26:07 Hahah you were almost right ;D
26:16 Well, they are not covered in crap, so that's a potential give away :J
27:06 Not quite. That kid was an Earth Pony with dark-purple hair and yellow coat. This one here is a Pegasus with violet hair and grey coat. But you were close with your prediction anyway :)
27:44 And Fluttershy too in the background. But I'm not sure if they died. Changelings don't kill their prey â they put them into cocoons so that they could feed on them later.
28:02 Yeah, she's learning ;> and this time she came prepared :>
28:10 I wonder what that other half of the cloud was attached to so it didn't fall like the first half :J
28:26 You're already rooting for the enemy? :D
29:29 You have not enough mana :J
29:39 What's with you and falling off the cliffs, Twilight? You literally have the bridge next to you :J
29:47 With that crescent on top it kinda looks like a mosque :q
32:55 The timberwolves aren't alive to begin with. They're spirits that gather pieces of wood and make their physical bodies out of them. When you destroy them, they can rebuild from the same pieces of wood, or find another.
33:22 Not in this timeline ;> In this timeline, Nightmare Moon has never met Twilight before, so she doesn't know her teleportation trick yet ;)
34:54 That's the thing: she didn't know, because she never experienced those futures. Twilight did.
35:30 Fallout: Equestria :J
35:48 Angel Bunny :D
37:50 This kinda answers the question Apple Bloom had in "Bloom and Gloom": what if they won't get their cutie marks all at the same time. I guess it might have ended bad if that happened :q Apple Bloom might have been Starlight right now :q
38:33 Perhaps because she was not sure if it will work.
40:02 The scroll is like: "My work here is done. I shall go now, when no scroll has gone before." :J
40:08 Hmm... how many episodes were there?... ;)
40:15 Well, technically, this is not the original timeline ;> See my other comment here somewhere in which I explained that (the one about the intricacies of time travel).
40:39 "She might be a bitch, but she's our bitch now" :)
40:58 Oh, you have no idea... :J In the universe, everything is connected. And even the smallest and seemingly unimportant thing can make a huge change in the long run. (That's kinda what the butterfly effect is all about.)
41:28 TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOONNNNN!! ]:D
43:53 You can always count on the Stockholm syndrome :J
47:24 Make sure to react to "Equestria Girls 3: Friendship Games" before that, because it came out between season 5 and 6.
14:29 That sounds like a way of saying âAre you on drugs?â
1 like33:59 That clap. đ
This was a big plot twister for me. Haha I was so surprised.
3 likesThe fact that this came before Doctor Strange is amazing to me.
4 likes"Starlight! I've come to bargain!"
One of my favorite finales. Its pretty great.
0 likesStarlight is blinded by rage, hatred, and accusing others around her by blaming her own failures onto others while at the same time claiming they have an ego.
14 likesI have a theory: Her selfish ambitions are what will be her own downfall if she succeeded in her time travel scheme. No pony left will be there in that desolate wasteland, only herself to fend on her own.
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Bro like the world rings of hatred sadness and rage bro if starlight had those rings twilight wouldn't even be a challenge to her as darkspine starlight glimmer dude
0 likesIt is cute when foal starligt clapping her hooves
6 likesYou know, they could've made things way darker by having spike cease to exist or at least not with twilight
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In a way, they did: Recall who hatched Spike from that egg with her magic, which definitely didn't happen in the alternate timeline, as we saw ;>
2 likesThere's an alt-verse fic where Twilight stays in the past and adopts Starlight and grows into what could be assumed to be what we see in the S9 Epilogue
1 like16:26 can't believe I'd ever see the day where MLP has actual blood on the screen, bruh.
0 likesHere's what I found in IMDb trivia:
1 like1. A reality in which Trixie took over equestria was scripted, but was cut from the final product due to time constraints.
2. A reality in which Derpy ruled was proposed but was cut as it took away from the tone
3. Another scrapped reality would have been Twilight meeting with an older Starlight standing over a desolated world. In it older Starlight would have pleaded with Twilight to forgive what she did and beg her to stop her younger self. This was scrapped as it was deemed too dark for a child's show
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@AZ336XB12 I see, thanks. IMDB must have some pretty obscure trivia. I should look into that sometime for other episodes.
0 likesI found that in IMDb trivia about these episodes
0 likes@Xertek It sounds incredible, and really no darker than anything in Twilightâs Kingdom.
0 likesNot that I donât believe you, but how do you know all this?
0 likesThat 3rd one would of been pretty great. Damn you G rating!
1 likeThese are my favorite to least favorite songs of Season 5:
3 likes1. The Magic Inside (Iâm Just A Pony)
2. The Pony I Want To Be
3. Iâll Fly
4. Weâll Make Our Mark
5. Equestria The Land I Love
6. Pony I Want To Be (Reprise)
7. Rules of Rarity
8. Make This Castle A Home
9. In Our Town
10. Light Of Your Cutie Mark
11. The Spectacle
12. Vinyl Scratches and Octaviaâs Dubstep
13. The Vote
14. Friends Are Always There For You
15. Weâll Make Our Mark (Prelude)
16. Make This Castle A Home (Reprise)
17. Apple Jackâs Lullaby
18. Sisterhood Social Song
19:07 - yeah, you're not wrong.
2 likes31:52 - my reaction to that situation as well. Lol
6:33 As ACRacebest said in Bronies React, 'look at that evil sit!'
7 likesIt was pretty cool to see all these alternate timelines, but I felt like they detracted too much from the conflict with Starlight, which seemed rushed in comparison. So, it's not my favorite finale, but it's still a good one.
2 likesWhy doesnât Nightmare Moon acknowledge Twilight being an Alicorn?
0 likesThe thing about this episode, is that in this episode, time travel CAN change the past, but in It's About Time, time travel COULDN'T change the past. I give the show a pass, because it says that Starlight altered Starswirls spell, but I wanted to point that out, because far too many people don't realize that they're fundamentally different types of time travel.
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@Bon Bon You literally commented "25:35 In this case, this timeline was not caused by stopping Rainbow Dash â this time she stopped the bullies who teased Fluttershy. A different cause leads to a different timeline." So you do acknowledge, that the past is being changed. So I don't understand your confusion. In this finale, the way time travel works, you can go back in time, and change the past.
0 likes@Bon Bon "Where did you get the idea that in this finale time travel can change the past?"
0 likesThe fact that Starlight went back in time, and changed the past. I really don't understand stand the confusion. Also, not all forms of time travel where you change the past means you disappear from existence. Here is a video that talks about different types of time travel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3zTfXvYZ9s
Where did you get the idea that in this finale time travel can change the past? I don't see any evidence of that, while there's evidence for the contrary: if Twilight's past were really affected, the Twilight we follow must have had changed too in accordance with her new past, and either her cutie mark (as well as Spike) would have had to disappear, or she would have had to cease existing altogether, never meeting Starlight, and never getting involved in the time travel to begin with. But that would have caused a time paradox, unless we assume parallel timelines. But in this case, fiddling with time can only make you switch from one timeline to another, not affecting the original one. It's like choosing the path to the left instead of to the right. Even Zecora kinda explained that with her water stream allegory. Wherever you read about that supposed "contradiction", it must have been mistaken, because there's no contradiction whatsoever. See my other comment here somewhere for more detailed explanation.
0 likesStarlight is in fact the Best Pony.
0 likesBTW... any chance for a (presumably) drunk G3 reaction? Maybe the Minty Christmas, as it is the most popular one?
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He said sometime ago that he is going to react to A Very Minty Christmas on or around Christmas (I forgot which one)
0 likesThe final future shown is likely the end result of events from the season 7 finale happening on an earlier timeline, without anypony to stop it.
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Cool theory, but without the Mane 6, who would have attempted to bring the Pillars (and therefore also the Pony of Shadows) back from Limbo?
0 likesOr perhaps Daybreaker ( courtesy also from Starlight Glimmer) or the eating flies or like some fan observed, many or all villains escaped from their prisons and battled to death for conquest of Equestria
0 likesLiquid pride count in series : 11
6 likesLiquid pride count for this season: 8
Yeah a lot of people agree Starlight's reason for becoming evil was pretty weak
0 likes....and Rainbow Dash's ego grew five times that day!
7 likesI would certainly like to see your reactions on Double Rainboom and ToucanLDM videos. But for now, have a rest from all of those reactions.
1 like42:09 "Uh, begging yer pardon, Twilight, but ah didn't agree to that. Actually, ah'm pretty sure ah hate her guts."
3 likesMainly the only reason the world went bad is because Twilight never became Celestiaâs student, the others donât matter that much. Rainbow only matters because she caused Twilight to get her cutie mark.
2 likesA very troubling moment when Starlight exacted her revenge on Twilight over quite petty reasons.
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I would hardly call the destruction of her entire philosophy / lifeâs work (a.k.a. her village) a petty reason for revenge.
1 likeAnd there we go. Now, you can happily say hello to the Mane 7. ;)
2 likesAlso the only reason why starlight is some what better at magic than twilight is because twilights destiny is The magic of friendship and The element of magic thatâs why itâs a pink star. While starlights represents souly on just magic
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This.
0 likesIndividually, Starlight is better at magic, because Twilightâs talent is the magic of friendship, so she needs her friends to be really strong.
44:06 how have I miss granny sleeping during the song after 6 viewings
1 likeStarlight's town was still communist but also like a cult because it was small.
0 likesthis episode have so much references and memes to Back To The Future....
1 likeTwilightâs face at 42:38 gave me diabetes
0 likesAnd thatâs a good thing
Despite what the other commenters may have stated as you said in the first half the reaction, this finale makes it clear it was not a cult, it was proper political ideology of communism. She espouses with the bullies and with Twilight that it was about creating harmony and equality, even when she did not have to (no cult members to indoctrinate: she was effectively planning to kill Twilight). In later appearances, that it was the political ideology that motivated her is reinforced several times, because some of the fans didn't seem to get the message.
0 likes"How can a group of ponies who are SO DIFFERENT be so important?!" She asks frantically and frazzled... Clearly the words of a cult leader carefully grooming their next new acolyte, and not the words of someone whose deeply-held ideology is being credibly challenged.
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Not really. It was indeed a cult. :) Communism is not about people having equal talents (or lacking them), it's a social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs. Starlight's group was a small group following their special agenda. They were in a cult. If you need a real example of communism ideas in a show, watch classic Star Trek shows. Their future society integrates ideas of communism really obviously. :)
0 likes41:05 I think twilight and starlight habe the same level power. We can see that fighting they tie and in the show we can see that twilight can do speels that starlight dont and vice versa.
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Starlight is definitely more powerful.
0 likes@Green Orbit In terms of overall power, Twilight has more. Starlight is just at an advantage because she knows more spells. If Twilight and Starlight were to engage in a battle like how Celestia and Chrysalis did, like that laser to laser thing, Twilight would win.
0 likes@Green Orbit But Pony of Shadows said âThis one is almost as strong as you Starswirl.â To Twilight. Are u saying that Starlight is more powerful than Starswirl the bearded?
0 likes@Green Orbit If only Twilight had Starlightâs ability to combine complex spells, sheâd be next level.
0 likes@Green Orbit Hmm, you make a valid point. On her own Twilight is vulnerable against other gifted ponies/strong creatures.
0 likes@Selena
0 likesI agree, Twilight has the magic of Friendship within her, which makes her the strongest. However, she is only the strongest when she is with her friends. On her own, Starlight decimates.
@Selena
0 likesIf Twilight had more raw power than Starlight, then why would she need her friends? As Celestia said years ago: "What is the Princess of Friendship without her friends?"
@Selena
0 likesYes, Twilight is the Princess of Friendship. However, she can only access that power when her friends are around. Just look at her cutie mark: One large star with five small stars.
@Green Orbit To sum it all up..
0 likesStarlight is better at magic, Twilight just has more raw power.
@Green Orbit Twilightâs special talent isnât just âmagicâ, its actually the magic of friendship.
1 likeTwilight possesses the magic of friendship within her, and thats the most powerful magic of all, do ofcourse shes stronger than Starlight.
@Green Orbit Incorrect.
0 likesStarlight is actually better than Twilight in magic.
However, Twilight has more raw power than Starlight.
You have to understand all of Starlightâs feats were spells Twilight had no idea existed. Iâm pretty sure if Starlight could teach Twilight a banishing spell or combat magic, Twilight would be stronger than she is now.
Starlight is actually stronger as Twilight admitted she couldnât stop her and during their fight, Twilight was visibly more exhausted than Starlight.
3 likesStarlight also has feats throughout the series that prove sheâs stronger.
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1 likeTwilight and friends: Save Equestria from Nightmare Moon, Sombra, Tyrek, and many others
2 likesAlso Twilight: "I dOnT kNoW wHy My FrIeNdS aRe So ImPoRtAnT-"
I get modesty but this is just low self-esteem/self-hatred
6:01 - thank you :) Glad to see you read my comment and took it to heart. ^_^
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Now go explain it to several other people here in the comment section to let them see their mistake ;J
0 likesI mean its kinda like communism. Communism at its most basic form is a classless society. No one is better than each other or more important. Sounds a bit familiar.
2 likes39:50 - The First Harmonic Rainbowgence
1 likei canât keep up with these uploads haha đ
1 likeTill this day, Starlight's backstory is one of the weakest ones from the show in my OPINION.
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@Antroid ok ok, about chrysalis yes she wanted power but she had to feed her subjects or else they would die so atleast she had a good reason
0 likesIt's perfectly fine, and I'm even saying that as a Starlight fan. When I think about it, you're right; hating cutie marks and turning 'evil' just because a friend moved away?! That's the kind of backstory that belongs to a campy one-shot villain from the 1960's Batman live-action show...not MLP:FiM. I mean, even Apple Bloom moved on when Twist got her cutie mark and she {Apple Bloom) didn't; she made new friends, in the Cutie Mark Crusaders.
0 likesSo yeah, love her or hate her, your opinion does make a valid point. :/
Since we're sharing our opinions here, I'll offer my own perspective as well. Starlight destroying Equestria because she lost a childhood friend is weak, yes. But this isn't exactly what happened. From Starlight's perspective, losing Sunburst was an epiphany. She learned the "truth" about how weak friendship was, and this was presumably reinforced throughout her life. If Starlight was Isaac Newton, she showed Twilight the apple landing on her head, not the years spent writing papers and tinkering with equations that followed.
1 likeShe revealed why she felt the need to make her town, why she felt that friendship needed to be forced the way she did in order to make something resembling a happy life for herself. Her revenge against Twilight was already explained from the start of this as trading one ruined life for another. She didn't know anything about putting Equestria as a whole at risk, and when Twilight explained she tried to deny and rationalize it away.
As far as villainous motivation goes, Starlight is standard: revenge against the heroes for ruining their plans.
I agree Starlight have one of the weakest backstory, even Moondancer had it worse, imo. But what makes it interesting is looking at her personality, it makes sense she would overreact and let things escalate to an insane level like that.
3 likesGuys, all those other villains you mentioned don't even have a proper backstory, at least not in the show (except for Nightmare Moon, and hers was also weak). You can't say their backstory was worse because we don't even know what happened, it's not a fair comparison.
Well, since you all simply wanted to share your opinion, I will add mine. Not attacking anyone (not trying to prove someone's opinion wrong) as long as they are not attacking mine. lol So, in my opinion: while her backstory was admittedly questionable I looked past it, because the reformation process itself (her stopping herself while she could dominate) was one of the most powerful reformations in the show, and because of her interesting character she turned out to be. :)
0 likesBy questionable I mean that while the idea was great for that kind of back story, its presentation could use some work. Because that's the reason so many people saw it as weak and even hated Starlight's redemtion.
@Antroid I would say a better backstory but I don't want to spoil anything. Why are you getting so pressed a lot of people dislike Starlight's backstory and they have the right to because it's their own freaking opinion. Nowadays you always have to say "my opinion" cause people just attack you.
4 likesWhat others though? Name a better backstory. Nightmare Moon? Threw a tantrum because she felt entitled to everyone's love. Discord? Was a troll god and so was trollin'. Chrysalis? Wanted power. Sombra? Wanted power. Tirek? Wanted power. Sunset Shimmer? Wanted power. Pretty much all of the minor mid-season antagonists? Just assholes. I'm not gonna list any upcoming villain, but in my opinion only one of them has an actual backstory. I would say that their (again, no spoilery names), Starlight's and NMM's are the only ones in the whole show that have any emotional rationale and any complexity, the others are just two-dimensional.
8 likesAlso, you sure didn't word it as an opinion, you definitely worded it as an objective statement :P
The only fault in Starlight's backstory is that she hypes it up a bit too much before showing what happened, and doesn't demonstrate any of her life between Sunburst leaving and her starting on the whole cult and cutie mark spell thing. They probably could've shown her stewing in her own misconseptions as a teenager and still not having friends or something like that. But there's absolutely enough there that's implied and you can absolutely see how she came to be who she was. Just because it wasn't spelled out in your face, and instead the show tried to leave something for the imagination (whether on purpose or due to overlooking it) doesn't mean it was weak.
it's weak, yes, but understandable
1 like@Twifan4ever xx your opinion is seconded. But I still like her as a character so meh, I can look past it.
2 likes@Antroid it's my opinion. I didn't say it was bad it was just one the weakest one compared to a lot of others.
4 likesOnly for people who don't spare a second to try to understand her point of view. So, highly debatable.
2 likes35:27 War. War never changes.
2 likesI'm so glad Starli is reformed but I wish she could be more girly.
1 like"There's that milf voice"
1 likeKelly Sheridan, otherwise known as... Barbie.
This is probably my second (or maybe third, if you count The Best Night Ever as a finale) least favourite finale. Nothing against the actual meat of it, but the ending is pretty trash. Starlight definitely did not deserve to become Twilight's student without the rest of Equestria being informed about what happened.
1 likeNah, it's communism. Sure, no relation to currency, but that could also suggest that everything is owned by the community. Also, writer M A Larson gave several hints about the episode being themed around communism.
0 likes44:20 "Staring at me."
3 likesExcept for Bulk Biceps, who seems to be staring at... something else.
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@Winter You assume correctly.
1 likeFluttershy, I assume.
1 likeFluttershy's flank?
2 likes0:18 I literally saw seasons 1-5 in 2 weeks.
2 likesTwilight was holding back
0 likesAnd now... the teams sociopath finally joins the group.
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Second I suggest, because there was before Pinkamena Diane Pie....that was scary, but in the end Starlight improved a lot and she has had outside Twilight Sparkle and Rainbow Dash the most complete and satisfactory story arc of MLP as character growth
2 likesThe last song at the end sounds like mlp eqg friend ship games âright in front of meâsong
0 likesâ«Allll the waaay to the Friendship games â«
1 likeThe wasteland is either sunset shimmer rule or Tirac
1 likei really wish they hadnt put that shot in at 16:00, i feel like it really makes the stakes feel lower but oh well
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Well, it is still technically a kidsâ show.
0 likesJust now started, but I have to say: "It's just baby fat!" Huh. Well, would you look at that. XD
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He is a baby dragon, after all!
0 likesPonybro: "starlight how does this benefit you.*
3 likesMe: ponybro ... let me introduce the concept of revenge it doesn't need to benefit starlight just fuck over twilight
35:30 The future in which RD is dead
2 likesSeason 6 is a big one
4 likesDid anyone notice that bulk biceps was the only one not looking forward at the end there......or was it just me
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He was totally looking at Fluttershy đ
0 likesFallout Equestria! Wasterland! Where is Littlepip?
2 likes25:45 your asking questions that never should be asked.
1 likeNext Friendship Games?
2 likesYou would have 92 sunglasses omg đ!
0 likes30:40 đ
0 likesTry to do a seasons in one episode in one day
0 likesStarlight is best pony
3 likesPonybro did you see fluttershy stabbed a changeling in the background at 27:43
1 likeYou are going to love Starlight
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Or else.... ;>
1 like35:27 Swag.mov refference :D
1 likeIt was epic.
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It really was. The twilight vs starlight was pretty awesome.
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1 likeskip to 25th min while zacora is talking he is telling us about his questions and i coulden't hear the answers wich zacora was talling us
0 likesI wish I can actually make friends but everyone in school hates me and the only other place I can go to is my house cause my parents basiclly trap me here and I can never make other friends
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Iâm so sorry to hear that. I truly hope things get better for you.
0 likesSoooo the tree of harmony is omniscient?
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@Voldy356 I will as soon as he gets back from Pantala. Itâs not like I really miss him that much or anything, though⊠đ đłđ„Žđ„”
1 like@Winter Thanks Winter. Say hi to Qibli for me.
1 likeJust ask season 8.
0 likes30:11 "Nice bun!"
3 likesAll four of them, really. ;)
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Indeed đ
1 like@ponybro starlights reason seems a little ridicules but stuff like that actualy can affect a kid
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@FusionOmni well hello again. Lol
0 likesTrue. A child's mind is much more susceptible to these ways of thinking. An adult acting this way is likely from ideas ingrained into their mind from a young age carried into adulthood.
1 likeBEST PONY HAS ARRIVED
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@PonyBro I Guess BAHAHAHAHA
1 likeWeird, Fluttershy arrived in episode one
3 likesCastle of the one sister
1 like12:09 Ghostbusters
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Starlight-busters!
0 likes35:35 this is the future of desolates, emptiness, death. In our human would itâs the world calls climate change.
0 likesDon't call Spike a fatty đĄ
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0 likesI see you are skipping some fan stuff that came between seasons. I believe before season 5 there was at least Anthology II . Also you claim to be done with Friendship is Witchcraft but I don't see Friendship is Witchcraft:Horse Women as an upload. I stated this in the comments of your "Final" FiW upload.
1 likeIt wasn't a cult, it's Twitter and college Progressivism. (That is opposed to the sane progressives.)
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I honestly didnât know there were any sane progressives.
1 likeIt was 14
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What was 14?
0 likesUgh, Nightmare Moon is sooo overrated :| Even if your reaction is nice
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Nightmare Moon is awesome!
0 likesScrew the people who can't keep up. I guess they're not truly dedicated.
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You must be fun at parties.
0 likes36:25
0 likesCommunism is a cult and the cult Starlight tried to introduce to Equestria is Communism.
0 likesCommunism is the cult built on the ideology of Socialism, which is the ideology of extreme equality.
I have a reaction request. Please react to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTcFKsHQBBs, I'm not going to tell you what it is, I want it to be a surprise, just know that it relates to Season 5 Episode 18. It is only 3 and a half minutes long.
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