Kind of remind me of the Milo Murphy Law where when MIlo with the time traveler duo got hit with a peach that warn them from the pistachio army. Dakota keep it and then when they three come back way early, they saw their other self about to get capture by the pistachio, so they throw at the past self and give us a really big and confuse question "Where the heck that peach came from?"

And Cavendish was like "Wait a minute. Where did you get that peach?" And Dakota was like "Someone threw it at you earlier." And Cavendish was like "But that someone was me." And Dakota was like "I know." And Cavendish is like "But where did I get it? And Dakota was like "From me." And Cavendish was like "Yes, but where did you get it?" And Dakota was like "Someone threw it at you earlier." And Cavendish is like "But that someone was me!" And Dakota is like "I know!" And Cavendish is like "But where did I get it? And Dakota was like "I know" And Cavendish is like "But where did I get it? And Dakota is like "Someone threw it at you earlier!" And Cavendish was like "But that someone was me!" And Dakota is like "From me! And Cavendish is like "Yes, but where did you get it?" And Dakota is like "Someone threw it at you earlier!" And Cavendish is like "BUT THAT SOME —"


Sawtooth is putting to much effort in this we should appreciate him 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

We should appreciate "them", not "him". But yeah I agree.


So, with this all in mind, how can a timeloop logically end, if it can end at all?  How did Twilight manage to get out of all of this and stop the time travel, leading her to continue with the story at some point?


Sawtooth didn’t just solve Future Twilight’s Paradox…

He solved the entire Bootstrap Paradox


This is confusing but just listen(read) When the loop started (where the disaster happened )(future) twilight went in the past. Before the disaster happened. Future twilight tries to tell past twilight about the disaster but past twilight’s worrying led to the head band eyepatch and other. But there is a problem. Past twilight must have to go through the same because that is how time works, but she didn’t. Future twilight went in the past. What happened to future twilight sparkle never happened to past twilight. Past leads to the future. If Past twilight had a change, future twilight should also have a change. So that means future twilight never existed. Cause everything happened differently so did twilight. Time had a slight change. And if future twilight never existed the loop would have never happened in the future. You see the problem here. But I also have a solution <br>Solution: future twilight went in a alternative timeline. Cause twilight was smart enough to figure this out. That solves this problem

This is confusing but just listen(read) When the loop started (where the disaster happened )(future) twilight went in the past. Before the disaster happened. Future twilight tries to tell past twilight about the disaster but past twilight’s worrying led to the head band eyepatch and other. But there is a problem. Past twilight must have to go through the same because that is how time works, but she didn’t. Future twilight went in the past. What happened to future twilight sparkle never happened to past twilight. Past leads to the future. If Past twilight had a change, future twilight should also have a change. So that means future twilight never existed. Cause everything happened differently so did twilight. Time had a slight change. And if future twilight never existed the loop would have never happened in the future. You see the problem here. But I also have a solution
Solution: future twilight went in a alternative timeline. Cause twilight was smart enough to figure this out. That solves this problem


I loved it.<br>It was the first MLP episode I ever watched.

I loved it.
It was the first MLP episode I ever watched.


I actually really needed this another show! It just ended today in bootstrap paradox. I don’t know all the details to explain it to myself but this really helped me understand! Thanks!


OH MY GOD YOU LEGEND. The bootstrap paradox has plagued my brain for so long, in various media, always making me frustrated. And YOU EXPLAINED IT. I can die peacefully now


My theory was that one of the Future Twilights was from an alternative universe that, like Starlight, went back in time to change the future, thus creating the paradox. Or perhaps it was the wrong spell which instead of going back in time, she went into another universe to stop something that was never going to happen in the first place.


Holy shoot... have you any idea how many time-traveling-involved movie timelines this resolves?  This is a perfect explanation!


I mostly don't mind an information paradox like this, but I really love this theory! And I love Doctor Who!


Can you please do the young 6 stain glass window from “The Last Problem” next<br>SERIOUSLY ITS KILLING ME

Can you please do the young 6 stain glass window from “The Last Problem” next
SERIOUSLY ITS KILLING ME

@Sawtooth Waves you manage to do Sumbra’s origin story so this should be easy for you


When you watch a theory video expecting it to solve your doubts but it ends up making you more confused


What if the disaster was Cerberus, and the first Twilight had a slightly harder to much harder time dealing with it, maybe because Fluttershy would be at Pinkie Pie’s party, causing her to try and warn past Twilight what she was going to have to do, and that she would need Fluttershy’s help, but of course not getting her point across, and causing the loop.


U just made my day by posting and this very logical!


Congrats on coming out, so proud of you! Also I know it's been 4 months since the gideo's come out I'm so sorry, congrats! Also my head hurts, this was kind of confusing


Of course! It all makes sense now. That was something that always confused me. Thank you for this video!


Okay, first off I'd like to say that I like this theory, for both the two mini doctor who episodes and the future Twilight episode. It makes sense and keeps in line with the rules of time travel. But something you overlooked, or thought that it didn't fit the script, or some other reason, it effectively stops them from being a bootstrap paradox.
For a bootstrap paradox to be.....well, a bootstrap paradox there is no determinal origin; that's what makes it a paradox. The most famous explanation of the bootstrap paradox is the time traveler that loved Beethoven's works, so much so that they go back in time to meet him, but upon arriving, finds out that no one knows who Beethoven is, not even his supposed family. The time traveler, who cannot bare the thought of a world without Beethoven or his works, decided that since he has copies of the sheet music, writes them up themselves and effectively become Beethoven. The question is who was originally Beethoven and wrote up the notes in the first place? Since that can't be determined, that makes it a bootstrap paradox.
Since your theory proposes a timeline that has am original starting point, that makes it so no paradox is formed.
Sorry for rambling and to reiterate, I do like your theory and do think that it's quite possible, I could just talk about paradoxes all day, and how freakish and impossible they are

@Sawtooth Waves Exactly, that's the entire nature of a paradox; something that can't/shouldn't happen, otherwise the entire universe could collapse into itself.
Time is a big ball of wibbly wobbly, timey wimey stuff, and a paradox is a square of impossible things
........I should be asleep and yet I'm discussing about paradoxes at 6am ^.^'

where no potential origin is feasible, those situations may just never happen.


I love this concept of a sort of time spiral that settles into a flat loop


This was such a clever theory! That makes a lot more sense 😁


Would you ever do a video on Flutterbat?! Because I ADORE your videos and theories


Hmm I've personally always believed that you could never change the past because it's something that already happened, so I neve found paradoxes like this odd however it was definitely interesting. 🥰


This is Sawtooth’s most confusing video yet but as always I throughly enjoyed it. (even though my head is still spinning)


That makes sense! I like how you compared it to a Dr. Whooves episode. c: I also like your side stories with your other selves, so I don't mind. ^^


But if before the disaster, and the first twilight went back in time, when the future twilight we know would go back in time, wouldn’t there be three twilights? Or maybe it erased the original twilight and made the twilight we know.


Please do an episode on how height works in My Little Pony? A first I thought it was just princesses who got to be tall, but Twilight is regular-sized, and Tempest and Big Mack are not princesses (unless you count that one time in ''Do Princesses Dream Of Magic Sheep?'') but just about reach Celestia's shoulder. I'm confused and in need of answers.


I always thought that Twilight heavily freaked out about her schedule and tried to go back into the past to fix it causing past twilight to worry, try to disaster proof equestria (not recognizing the signs because they weren’t there except for possibly the scar like they said in the vid) maybe another iteration before getting to the loop we see in the show, but anyway that to me would keep the sentiment of her trying to tell herself not to worry in the iteration before and the perfect loop we see in the show. I’m not saying Sawtooth’s theory is wrong or anything just saying what I always thought happened + a little more thinking inspired by their outlook on it


Made a D&D character based off twilight using the design from this episode. Thanks for the free backstory m8.


Sounds a lot like the time the doctor was imprisoned in that maze for billions of years until he broke the diamond wall


Now I want to know how Sawtooth originally learnt the answer, and travelled back in time


I just watched this episode again and i had so many questions


can we appreciate how sawtooth changes outfits like all the time for special occasions,
that is too much effort remaking sprites on top of everything else,
we gotta give some credit to the artist of those sprites man


this is always how i thought quantum loops work, the thought just never solidified in my head


I'm pretty sure what they showed in the episode was met to explain everything.  The loop paradox began the second Future Twilight cast that spell to warn Past Twilight to not worry so much, that was basically her trying to talk to herself in the past.  As in there was no Future or Past Twilight, it was just Twilight.


How do they analyse this show so well I could never lol


I think it started with Cerberus wrecking the town, then the next iteration the bridge collapsed because the dam broke, but they didn't notice the dam broke. The next loop, they fixed the bridge but noticed the rush of water that broke the bridge. Then Twilignt had the idea to dend Rainbow upstream to fix anything else. Something went wrong and Rainbow must have told Twilight looking like an insurance ad. The next iteration, Twilight sends Rainbow upstream again and thia happens for a few loops. Then Rainbow decides to look for problems because I feel like Twilight would have brought Rainbow this time and Rainbow said something. Basically they try to prevent disasters that they notice along the way, becoming slightly smarter each time until say they see a cliff with a loose face. That would be bad if it collapsed, crushing the town below it, which impacts trade around the country because they have access to a rare resource whoch is needed for medicines and certain technologies. These technologies wouldn't get shipped to the companies that buy them, which don't have them to sell to other companies, which can't get the money it would rake in to fix things like bridges and dams, leading to, well, societial collapse and Twilight going back in time to warn her past self. I also think the loop could evolve further, if some future version of Twilight realizes the chain that caused her existence in the first place. She could write a list as she fixes various things, and bring that list back in time with the eventual instructions to rewrite the list so it doesn't degrade. This list is important because it will eventually lead to future Twilight looking less and less like future Twilight as she realized to protect herself against the things that made her lookclike that in the first place. This loop will eventually evolve into future Twilight handing past Twilight a list of things that can go wrong with instructions on how to fix them and to prevent injury to her. Once my ideal loop is reached, Twilight could hone her magic skills a bit and practice going back in time again and maybe modify the spell before Starlight comes on the scene, likely leading her and Starlight never to become friends because she has the power to stop her before she ever becomes a problem through Dr Who-like abuse of time travel. This would lead to the space-time continuum being damaged beyond repair and Twilight's warning and loop being erased as the multiverse it created merges with itself erasing time going both forward and backward, meaning the time travel spell never existed because Starswirl never existed. Equestria would be a nonexistent prepetually burnt, tidally locked rock of a planet because Celestia never existed to rotate the planet that doesn't exist. The Big Bang of that universe would never have happened so time was never invented by the universe, leading to a universal superposition of existing at all points at all times and existing at no points never. However, the Dr Who time loop would probably not evolve further until The Doctor starts wondering "Wait, why the wibbly lever?" and starts that loop over again with "Definitely the wibbly lever." and it continues as we saw it.


Next vid Sawtooth will be talking to their human self... or whatever stickbugs turn into


I love this! How did I never think of this sort of thing before?


Totally did not expect a doctor who clip, LOOOOOVE it


Whenever i think of a bootstrap paradox, i think of the song of storms from oot.
By this logic, i wonder if the windmill man came up with the song himself and taught it to link but after it was too late to stop ganon. This would give link a reason to go back in time and teach it to the windmill man earlier.

I genuinely had no ideas on how a bootsrap paradox could start before seeing this video and now i feel like I've had so many questions answered


i thought i was the only one asking myself those questions about the episode!! now i feel a lil more relieved!!! hahaha

(i mean, i thought about all this, but putting my theory onto words even only in my own head was impossible! lol
good job tho!!)


I love the whole idea of the time paradox, and the explanation, it's awesome. I think you should make a video about what happened after twilight star pupil went to ponyville, I mean I know you did one on her parents but look at it this way. Scootaloo, Sweetie Bell and Apple Bloom are a bit older than twilight star pupil, meaning the time occured way into the future, Starlight runs the school and Teilight in herself is the Princess of Equestria, but as she mentioned every since she became the princess of Equestria and taken over Celestia school she hasnt gotten the time to really teach friendship and even though they meet once every moon, if there is a friendship problem twilight and maybe her friends wont be able to tend to it, cause twilight has more on her shoulder as it is, this is known because of the time when Starlight switched Luna and Celistia cutie mark we saw the challenges they went threw, so the question is would Starlight take over and become the princess of friendship under twilight judgement, will her pupil be the princess? I think maybe her pupil have a chance of that possibility  due to the last episode as to where she went off with her new friends a Griffin, kirin and other creatures. The shared love and friendship between crestures can be even more powerful than it was between ponies this was proven in the episode when twilight first open the school, galus and his friends having a treehouse, talking to the tree of harmony, defeating cozy glow and also helping twilight in the time discord made a mistake in reuniting and making Crystalis, Cozy Glow and Tyrek , it wouldnt necessarily  be Sandbar since be is 1 an earth pony and 2 males cannot be Alicorn, so I think Twilight pupil, Luster Dawn and that might be her destiny in it self and why she was sent to the school of friendship in ponyville


I literally was like “Has Sawtooth posted? I’m gonna go check soon!” but I forgot and now I just found their video and started watching🙂


You have created  new theory in science because of your great deduction on this Twilight Paradox! NOBLE PIECE PRIZE!


i think that's a solid time travel theory, I never knew about a diagram of zigzags and a half circle could represent a time loop. also I don't mind other yous, the more the merrier


I completely forgot about those "possible disasters" that Twilight prevented!


1:00

I have a few things to say about this so, hold on tight! The Bootstrap Paradox is not an impossible situation, it’s a form of time travel. For example, in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, there’s a point in which they use time travel. 🛑Spoiler Warning!🛑 I’ll be vague, two of the characters go back in time to stop someone from being killed. They end up saving two lives and not just one. One of the characters before-hand had tried to save the first victim they had to save. They saw someone save them and the other character with one spell. They think it’s their dad, but their dad is dead. Later, when they travel back in time, they realized that person was them but in the future! The only way all of these characters are still alive is because of the Bootstrap Paradox! At least, that’s how time travel works there. However, there’s one more thing I should mention, the time travel in that universe sent them back three hours. And at the end of it, they go back to where they were before traveling just as their past selves leave so THEY can time travel. Then, we focus on what the future selves do for the rest of the series. I hope this makes sense. When I saw this part of the movie, time travel made a lot more sense to me. Maybe it’ll open others eyes as well!


Hey Sawtooth. The fact that someone powerful is required to manually raise the sun implies that Equestria is tidally locked to its parent star. This means that in order to raise and lower the sun you would need to turn the wnole planet. I don't know for sure, but turning even a small planet enough that the day lasts a normal amount of time (say round about 20-30 hours) would take a ton of energy. This would explain why it took an entire team of the most powerful sorcerers to do so before Celestia came along. I also think Equestria's surface gravity is less than Earth's due to the fact that it doesn't take much to get a whole horse to fly, even a beefcake such as Bulk Biceps.


What if the disaster was one of the timelines Starlight caused with the scroll, then when the Twilight from that time line went back in time, they messed something up, and went too far back? But then Twilight over worries, and then that timeline of Starlight's is destroyed, putting into motion the events of the episode we see? It's a bit confusing, but it also kinda fits-


Basically it’s a time paradox with an infinite time loop! If you guys want a simple terms of explanation, basically play the video game Time splitters future perfect on the original Xbox, PlayStation 2, or GameCube! Your doing a really good job with time travel videos, and anyone with interest of time travel would lloovve the time splitters series!😉


It honestly never even occurred to me to make any sort of linear sense out of this episode, or any other time travel story. I guess I'm just okay with things being paradoxical. What makes this explanation great though, isn't just that it's plausible and neat-sounding, it's that it has that one quality that elevates all things that possess it to legendary status...

Fanfic fuel.


honestly those Doctor who shorts I really questioned how the doctor knew which lever to pull I was thinking maybe he read the manual for piloting the tardis but the solution you came up with is more logical


Thank you so much this was one of the only things in mlp I had a hard time with... Now if I can just figure out what the spell twilight cast at the end of season 3 actually did.

Though I have a theory that the spell killed her using the elements and took her and the personalities of the other 5 to make the tree of harmony's personality all the whole celestia was using twilight's now dead soul from being killed  to make new alicorn twilight. That's the o ly way a friendship spell killing you could makes sense


There's a whole Netflix series about the endless loop. It is "Dark" (original's on German) and you really should watch it. And the Thing with Twilight always got me insane bc of no explanation!! So yep, same question


Twilight somehow knowing the spell and telling past Twilight reminds me of how link knew the song of storms, it’s theorized that it was young Link who taught the guy in the windmill the song of storms but wen adult Link goes to the windmill he’s taught the song of storms by the guy in the windmill, that loop doesn’t tell us who wrote the song of storms lol


You're not wrong with a paradox starts is always ends up like unstable but when you figure out which is which and what not to do tells the past self what not to do until they find the right one and after they find the right one they stabilized the Paradox making it infinite. I'm amazed you didn't figure this out earlier it's common paradoxical knowledge


Wait a moment... Pinkie Pie made contact around the end of the series with the magic of Discord from that bell thing. It's magical involvement with Pinkie Pie ended up getting through from one end of time to the other, possibly causing a loop in the first place throughout the whole series, then causing a relationship between time, space, and Discord's magic in general. Possibly it's the reason why we have Discord from the very beginning, and his magical involvement and abilities, leading to several events that get caused by the magic being in their world. Maybe this one needs some more looking in to?


I actually thought this couldn't be solved and was just an inescapable plot hole but I guess you proved me wrong. This "multiple iterations" concept does make a lot of sense.


Time travel is head hurting.<br>I like that. 😁

Time travel is head hurting.
I like that. 😁


This was very easy for me to follow and this is the first time I have heard anything like this. My imagination just got bigger.... Lol.  Thanks for this video!!! 😀. <br>Edit: 😁😄😉😋

This was very easy for me to follow and this is the first time I have heard anything like this. My imagination just got bigger.... Lol.  Thanks for this video!!! 😀.
Edit: 😁😄😉😋


You made very good points here as always<br>But now we need to find out this loop

You made very good points here as always
But now we need to find out this loop


This was honestly one of my favorite episodes of the show! Unrelated but my goat had a baby today :D


Like, not every video, but as a running gag kinda? I dunno


Just re-watched the episode and it made me think... what if Pinkie wrote that spell? Paired with her abilities to see dangers and various other things who says she did didnt make it when she "found" it?


Little did we know the real future Twilight was from an alternate future where the machines rule equestria. She used the spell but went to the wrong timeliness starting the loop


Waiiiit
If there is a "Future Sawtooth" is there a human one?!???!
(Saw theme)


I always thought the same way, that some paradox don't start just like that, but that went through several things to get vto the perfect loop. Sometimes I even thought that I was just crazy


This Makes <b>Perfect</b> sense and i love you for explaining this

This Makes *Perfect* sense and i love you for explaining this


Great idea, but here is my problem. Just WHAT was the original disaster??<br>We have seen Twilight face horrible events AND villain attacks before. But never once did she consider such a solution. At least, whatever happened in the original timeline NEEDED to be worse, then both Nightmare Moon and Discord...

Great idea, but here is my problem. Just WHAT was the original disaster??
We have seen Twilight face horrible events AND villain attacks before. But never once did she consider such a solution. At least, whatever happened in the original timeline NEEDED to be worse, then both Nightmare Moon and Discord...


Bootstrap paradoxes like this are interesting. This displays how it's possible to explain some becoming loops that don't have to start as loops. Others are seemingly impossible to ever be able to begin, so there's no entry for the loop. Examine a loop in the Harry Potter universe, where Harry saves his past self's life. I've not been able to come up with any possible way for that loop to "begin" from not being there in a persistent manner.<br>Lovely to see this reviewed, to help my inspiration for a fanfic that begins with this timeloop.

Bootstrap paradoxes like this are interesting. This displays how it's possible to explain some becoming loops that don't have to start as loops. Others are seemingly impossible to ever be able to begin, so there's no entry for the loop. Examine a loop in the Harry Potter universe, where Harry saves his past self's life. I've not been able to come up with any possible way for that loop to "begin" from not being there in a persistent manner.
Lovely to see this reviewed, to help my inspiration for a fanfic that begins with this timeloop.


This was so great! Not ony explained MLP timetravel episode, but also DW TARDIS paradox scene!!!! I love both of those shows! Do you also analyze DW similarly as you do with MLP?


What could the disaster be? How does the first Twilight, who travel back in time, look? How many time has the loop run since the first travel?


Ya know him making videos even after it ended he’s been making more theory’s and more and it’s amazing and you can tell how determined he is!


Twilight's overthinking literally created a time paradox lmao


Very confusing but I kinda got the hang of it at the end xD<br>Love ur vids!!

Very confusing but I kinda got the hang of it at the end xD
Love ur vids!!


I wouldn't have thought of that. I thought it was just kind of grandpa's paradox, not that it could mean anything more.


Wholehearted agreement, except for one thing. Twilight did so much disaster proofing, we can have no way of knowing what happened in the original timeline. While it's possible the first Twilight to time jump only had the suit and cut, it's equally likely she was the future Twilight we know, or worse. There are multiple ways Twilight could've gotten those other injuries. The first Twilight to time jump could've had a gaping hole under the eyepatch instead of a blinded eye. We could've seen the first Twilight to jump at the beginning of the episode, or we could be well into the time loop, there's no way of knowing.


after I watched that episode I thought about the paradox, n it really bothered me. future twilight K N E W that past future her worried herself with the time travel. if she thought about it she would have realized going back made things worse, or she could have shut past twilight up to actually tell her not to worry.
,,but if going off your past disaster theory it would start the whole loop again
intresting stuff to think about lol

note : I kept losing my thought track in-between writing this, I kept getting sucked into the video lol. sorry if parts of this dont make sense


This is literally making my head spin 😵💫


I like your explanation because it takes the Bootstrap Paradox and explains it, removing the paradox element using an image of... shoelaces (it's a shame that shoelaces aren't the same as bootstraps because that would've made it the perfect image. But it's a related image, so it at least can work with the theme).

However, explaining Doctor Who's Bootstrap Paradox with that episode doesn't follow with Twilight's Bootstrap Paradox. In Twilight's case, by... shoelacing the Bootstrap Paradox, it doesn't fix the paradox problem, it just replaces one paradox with another. It turns the Bootstrap Paradox into the Grandfather Paradox. If there was a catastrophe that Twilight went back in time to prevent, preventing that catastrophe prevents that version of Twilight from existing to go back in time to warn herself of the catastrophe. However, if we go with the Alternate Timeline theory of time travel, it takes what was a Bootstrap Paradox and turns it into an Infinite Regress, which is not a paradox (or at least it isn't if you understand the nature of infinity).

My Infinite Regress explanation uses the same principle as your explanation. The only difference is that an Infinite Regress doesn't have a starting point.

And here's a little fun thought. Each time a new part of that infinite regress is made, it accounts for new fanfic (assuming it takes place after that episode, it doesn't change any physics or lore of the world, and isn't an AU story.


I think when Cerberus broke out twilight got worried and then got her eyepatch, scar,mane and the bandage and that led her to time  travel which caused the loop


3:32 I don’t actually agree the doctor is a time lord and is extremely intelligent and is able to know things without process of elimination as seen during during the episode where river song wanted to kill hitler but the doctor didn’t want to because even before killing hitler he knew the possible effects of that action


i know how it started
twightlight must have done something we don't see in the show
she must been so embarrassed she time traveled to warn herself but probably made a chain of event witch made a gap in time line bending it to a circle and anthorer line was made called trapper forever in a dum circle.


I have always been wondering about this and you just explained it you are the best. I like dr.wolf and all but he does not pose questions and give answers about g4 anymore.


I feel like the original question is... How do this paradox begin? Like what lead the first twilight to pass through all that and time travel to warm pass twilight, starting those same events over and over again


I never even thought about this.. I just assumed it's a loop and never think much about this episode

Now I kinda wish you played Little Nightmare 2 because there's a whole time theory thing that's been confusing fans for a while


Imagine expecting a lesser experienced self becoming just as experienced just because you shared your vast experience.

No.

They have to go through the same experience you did in order to get it.
Otherwise it goes over their head.

I reasoned this a long time ago; if I was to time travel and warn my past self about a mistake that I shouldn't repeat...my past self wouldn't get it and just continue on with making the mistake.

Interestingly enough, it's not quite the same with children when we teach them our experience while guiding them with advice.


What if the initial disaster that Twilight went back in time for was somehow related to Tirek? Since the events with Cerberus would supposedly happen no matter what.


I was under the impression that one was not to question time paradoxes. I'm glad others hate them and want explanations as much as I do.


God dammit! I have watched both the Doctor Who episode and the MLP episode and I never made the connection between the two. Especially when I too asked the question "Wait where did the information originally come from if it's an inescapable time loop? Where's the original 'entrance'?" on both occasions. I also bet the writers didn't mean to intentionally create Bootstrap Paradox with this episode. It just happened. Also, as a side note, time travel is truly impossible to understand no matter what media you use even when it's solved.


hearing sawtooth refer to themself with they/them at the beginning gave me way too much serotonin


I was waiting for someone to address this. Thank you!


oh wow this is my exact theory on time loops, you explained it better than i ever could though


6:48 That would mean if Future Twi was able to prevent past Twi from time travelling the disaster would happen again, and Twilight would be stuck forever


I remember seeing doctor wolf talking about something like this you could do a collab! 😉


I’m curious- did you ever do a theory on why ponies like Mist Mane and other unicorns back in her time had curved horns?


I love how you did it the  concept and thanks for answering my most confusing question of my little pony ❤❤. Biig Fan love your videos


I always thought this was common sence! Jt will take multiple tries for finding something out right. But those alternate timelines are far away and we can't see them. Lol. Or maybe I watch too many time travel paradoxes and explanations-


So The loop for saw tooth goes like this so originally he had to figure this out all on his own and he feared that his past self might not know The lesson about the never ending loop he needs to know so he goes to the library and find the time travel spell then he tells the past sawtooth to go back in time as well and that’s how I think it happened


Come to think of it... What if someone just lets the events unfold as they are? As long as it's not hurting anyone of course.


Speaking of Time Travel, maybe you can do a Butterfly Effect video based on the season 5/6 finale (can't remember which one) where Sunset Shimmer goes back in time to stop the Sonic Rainboom. Honestly, the implications of that episode(s) is one a lot of people don't really think about much anymore. (unless you already talked about it in which case I'm just being stupid again, as per usual)


i like how he uses proper science to explain a supposedly nonsensical children's show


If this is the case I wonder what that means for the Doctor Who season finale where the Doctor is locked in the Pandora's Box and has to save the Universe from imploding on itself by getting a young Amy Pond to open the box.  I won't give spoilers but I will say this, there are bootstrap paradoxes EVERYWHERE in that episode.  I wonder how many alternative universes that took to get one consistent loop upon loop upon loop within loops of information.


I had a theory about the unicorns glow from the horn!. So each unicorn have a specific glow when they use their magic right. So that would mean they would be able to identify the unicorns in a way, so why didnt anyone realize that queen chrysalis was actually cadance? Their horns (& objects) glow differently but no one realised? Maybe the ponies cant actually see the other unicorns horn glowing, maybe no pony can, or only that unicorn using the magic can see it. Because if u could see the glow then queen chrysalis would of been defeated and cadance would of been fount then the entire "changling breaking the shield" or shining armour getting week wouldn't of happened. But thats just my theory.<br>If anyone sees this u can gladly share but dont say it was ur theory when clearly it wasnt :)

I had a theory about the unicorns glow from the horn!. So each unicorn have a specific glow when they use their magic right. So that would mean they would be able to identify the unicorns in a way, so why didnt anyone realize that queen chrysalis was actually cadance? Their horns (& objects) glow differently but no one realised? Maybe the ponies cant actually see the other unicorns horn glowing, maybe no pony can, or only that unicorn using the magic can see it. Because if u could see the glow then queen chrysalis would of been defeated and cadance would of been fount then the entire "changling breaking the shield" or shining armour getting week wouldn't of happened. But thats just my theory.
If anyone sees this u can gladly share but dont say it was ur theory when clearly it wasnt :)


MAN THIS IS AWESOME! I just thought that it was a completely random thing that could happen anytime anywhere somehow, but this? Damn! (I was waiting for your video 3 hours prior when I remembered what day it is :DDD)


How did the sun set in School Raze part 2, if Celestia, as well as all the unicorns, had lost their magic?🤔


Eh, I kind of like my own idea better: Trixie accidentally sends Starlight Glimmer to this time and hearing Twilight's recollection disguised herself to prevent a Paradox.


I think we just kinda think of time in too linear a fashion. In real life time gets distorted all the time. Gravity distorts time in the same way it distorts space. More to the point though, I'm far from an expert but (I hear) quantum mechanics also don't always follow our "A causes B causes C" concept of time. In quantum mechanics you can get a scenario where A caused B and B caused A with no clear first cause. Funky things are bound to happen when you poke holes in time like this for time travel, where pairs of events can cause each other with no clear first cause.

Basically, our normal intuitions just aren't built to handle situations like this, since we evolved to live in an "A causes B causes C" world

I think we just kinda think of time in too linear a fashion. In real life time gets distorted all the time. Gravity distorts time in the same way it distorts space. More to the point though, I'm far from an expert but (I hear) quantum mechanics also don't always follow our "A causes B causes C" concept of time. In quantum mechanics you can get a scenario where A caused B _and_ B caused A with no clear first cause. Funky things are bound to happen when you poke holes in time like this for time travel, where pairs of events can cause each other with no clear first cause.

Basically, our normal intuitions just aren't built to handle situations like this, since we evolved to live in an "A causes B causes C" world


Or it's the ontological Paradox, where a peace of information doesn't have a meaning, it exist soly for it's own existence.
Or the Pridestination Paradox, where going back in time to stop a specific events is what causes the event to happen in the first place.
Or it's a Temporal Causalty Loop, where event a causes event b which causes event c what in return causes even a again.
There are a lot Paradox stuff that can explains it better. And I think some of them make some more sense than your explonantion.


This is actually a really good explanation


Heres two theorys on what the disaster could've been:
1: Maybe the disaster was grogar returning but since future twilight messed with time travel to go to the past and the past twilight getting too curious about future twilight, future twilight caused something to happen in the past that caused grogar to stay banished in the stars.
2:Or maybe the disaster is grogar did return and there is a big war against twilight and her friends and grogar and eventually grogar meets the other villains like chrysalis, the half pony/goat guy who steals the pony's magic( I forgot his name), and cozy glow, and maybe discord(who knows maybe grogar had heard about discord and was searching to meet him but maybe by the time he finds discord, discord would be reformed)


I have an alternative suggestion on how the paradox might have started.

In the timeline we are shown twilight spends her week trying to prevent a disaster from happening but in the original timeline without future twilight she would have done something else in that time. Let's say she went to a party of pink pies and pinky accidently put cake batter into her confetti cannon resulting in an explosion of cake batter. This is just one example but it could be anything that twilight could describe as a "disaster" (you'll see why later).

Also in that week she might have been sending and receiving scrolls with princess celestia resulting in her finding out there are time spells in the canterlot archives. Naturally twilight would go there to look at the spells and her love of studying magic would urge her to try out the time spell. (We see in the episode "magical mystery cure" that it is like twilight to cast a spell just for the sake of research)

When twilight arrives in the past, peat twilight has lots of questions "OMG how did i figure out time travel? Does it hurt? Whats the future like?".  Twilight tells past twilight about the week yet to come mentioning pinkie's party where "there was an explosion of cake batter, it was a disaster". Past twilight, in her over-excited state isn't really listening and future twilight gets sucked back into the future. Past twilight's reaction: "oh no, where'd she go! Did she say something about a disaster!"

The rest plays out quite like how Sawtooth explained with twilight unknowingly accumulating the signs of future twilight while trying to prevent a disaster. Although it could have taken a few more times of twilight just going back and telling about her week, each twilight exaggerating pinkie's "disaster" party, becoming more like a game of time travel Chinese whispers. Ether way it leads to the paradox we know.

This seems apt since low water stores and cracking dams and bridges etc don't seem to me like they would cause a disaster big enough to coaxe twilight to travel back in time if left unfixed like Sawtooth suggested. They are both good theories, this is just another way the paradox could have been made without a disaster actually happening.


You've learned well, little changeling. Not many can grasp the true nature of time travel!


Considering that the episode involves Cerberus, perhaps the grand disaster involved it’s inhabitants? Maybe even Tirek? What if Cerberus wasn’t brought back in time, so Tirek managed to steal magic perhaps from the other creatures there? If so, he could start causing problems immediately, prompting twilight to go back?


Funny you should bring up Doctor Who! Twelve explained events that cause themselves are called "Bootstrap Paradoxes." Trying to prevent the future is what locks it in place and makes it inevitable.


The same type of loop happens in ocarina of time, where young link meets guru guru in the windmill, but later meets him in the adult timeline, where he learns the song of storms from guru guru, which means link has to go back to play the song of storms in front of guru guru, which means, link taught the song of storms to guru guru, which is basically a repeating time loop, it’s wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.


Now we need matpat to make film theories about other MLP problems lmao


Sawtooth: I need to stop talking to myself.

The aftereffects of isolation.


I love alllllllllllllllll your videos sooooooooooo much! Keep the good work


Actually I'm interesting in the portal on island in 'Summer Breakdown'.Do you have any idea about that.I assume the Storm King magic and the magic that make venus trap alive came from that portal.In 'Rainbow Rock'  Twilight mention Star Swirl used to banished the three sirens to the human world.Is it possibily the portal that Star Swirl banished the three sirens.That portal is hidden under quick sand. If Star Swirl didn't open then who?


The thing you have to realize about the Bootstrap Paradox is that it isn't. The universe is under no obligation to conform to our limited linear expectations, and so (assuming time travel is possible) it almost certainly doesn't. The universe doesn't care what we mistakenly think is or isn't possible.

Of course, in a fictional world the rules of time travel can be whatever the writers want them to be, so time travel could exhibit iterative convergence to a stable loop like you described. One could even argue that such a theory is the best way to reconcile Twilight's time loop in season 2 with her encounter with alternate timelines in season 5 (though I'm personally on the fence about that). Still, there doesn't have to be a secret origin. According to our current understanding of how time travel should work in the real world, time loops would simply be as they are because they are, without any means to trace everything to a source outside of the loop, because to be otherwise would be a paradox. A time loop with an origin would mean the future is changing its own past and thus itself, and that's not allowed. In other words, what we're actually dealing with is the Bootstrap Unparadox, in that it must happen in order to avoid a paradox.


It also the time crash when the fifth doctor saw the tenth doctor dose something because he remembered what his future self did.  You can also compare it with a self fulfilling prophecy where as you know the future you find anyway to change it resulting in that prophecy to accrue.


I think the disaster would be started by Cerberus escaping, making the dam break and washing away the library and Twilight's notes.


When the bootstrap becomes the balanced spring. Everything piles down in an event until the spring just starts bouncing forwards & backwards.


heres a question, can you do another video about the everfree forest because last time we didnt know that starswirl and the pillars kept it under control,and there are so many new info that we can possibly connect to know the origin of this forest


I mean, returning Cerberus didn't stop the disaster of Tirek returning while it was gone. Grant the big issue didn't happen the next Tuesday morning, but still. Now that I think about it, why didn't the guards or whoever do anything about him escaping after finding out he did?


I have moved from this subject and attached myself to minecraft yet I still continue to watch this dude, idk why.

I’m not sure if sawtooth okay or not with the term ‘dude’ but they’re non binary so keep that in mind :)


Now I know how to prevent all bootstrap paradoxes!


I HAVE AN IDEA FOR THE DISASTER. because sawtooth said that the cerberus event would have already happened then it could have been possible that a terrible moster other than tirek could have gotten out and cause a terrible crisis


The proper time tripping term for Bootstrap Paradox is a "Reverse Causality Triad".


Dude I think you just solved paradoxes. Things I was not expecting to see in a video about pastel ponies.


hey have you ever noticed that sombra has strange similarities to kirin? the curved horn, connection to blueish flames and negative emotions. and what looks like it could either be his helmet or a part of him has those scale like plates on his face, and they mysteriously vanish in season 9 after the kirin were introduced almost like the writers were aware and tried to cover up that detail. maybe king sombra has kirin ancestry in there.


Actually there was a disaster in this episode regardless of if she worried or casted that spell or not. The real disaster is that when Cerberus left tartarus Tirek escaped tartarus.


This explanation, while perfectly valid, necessitates the existence of alternate timelines in order to work. And granted, we know alternate timelines can be a thing in the MLP world because Starlight Glimmer would later produce several a few seasons later. But the thing about alternate timelines is that it's really less time travel and more just someone jumping between differing universes in such a way that it gives the illusion of time travel. For a truer form of time travel, there's really only ever the one timeline involved, where all events of a timeline are already "written" and accounted for, including all acts of time travel. Thus, a time traveler goes back to the past because history dictates they've already done so and must do so now in order to prevent the inevitable paradox that would ensue if they didn't, because that's the state the universe would be naturally inclined to favor.

So even though that means the mere act of time travel is in of itself a bit of a paradox and that you still have to allow for certain paradoxes sometimes like "It's About Time's" bootstrap paradox in order to explain it all, I'm kinda more inclined to still favor that explanation, because to me that's the better example of a classic time travel story.

Plus, "It's About Time" just presents such a well-written example of the bootstrap paradox that I admittedly do kinda wanna go "aw man, don't go ruining the bootstrap paradox like that! That was brilliantly written on the crew's part!" and thus do SOMETHING to justify its existence as-is. :P


So your non-binary. That’s really cool saw tooth. <br>Love ya sawtooth your amazing.💜

So your non-binary. That’s really cool saw tooth.
Love ya sawtooth your amazing.💜

@Raptor Zeraora Sawtooth says it in the description of their channel, I checked before I made this comment

We dont truly know that, thats like saying someone's lgbt just because they have rainbow on their profile pic, they might just like rainbows


I remember the saying "You can't change the future because it already happened in the past"


I didn't know you were nonbinary!! I am too!! 🥺 that's amazing

@Raptor Zeraora They also  said it on their twitter

@Raptor Zeraora in their about section on YouTube it says "Nonbinary Changeling" <br>I didn't assume anything

@Raptor Zeraora in their about section on YouTube it says "Nonbinary Changeling"
I didn't assume anything


YES! YES! WHOOOOOOOO!<br>Wonderful job Sawtooth.

YES! YES! WHOOOOOOOO!
Wonderful job Sawtooth.


Another example of the bootstrap paradox in Doctor Who is the short special Time Crash 2007 in which the 10th doctor meets the 5th doctor, which ends up with an information loop that saves their lives.


Great video! (Also I love your flower, so cute! <3 )


Have you considered making non-mlp related videos in the future? It's not that I don't like the content right now, it's great, but it would be cool if this channel had more variety


I noticed you use the non binary flag, that’s so awesome! Glad to have you in our community! 😎


Ah! I remember watching the past video of this, cool to see it so many years later :')


I will just agree with this, This theory is just as plausible as any other, and I am ok with it


My head hurts from how confusing time travel is 😰


Funny thing is that when I did a presentation on time,  time travel, paradoxes, alternate realities and stuff, I did actually Mention this


Imo, first twilight just wantet to try this spell, and she appeard near twilight from this timeline. She was looking normal but It was enough to be scary for our twilight number two. She started this mess, thinking there's a threat, and when she found out there is no danger she wanted to tell Twilight that she don't have to worry and this is the story from this epizode. There was never anything dangerous, she just  found a new spell and It went wrong.


I agree with this and we never did get to see the Ogrinal Timelline the one where it happend but a Simlar idea is that the Future has already happend Twilight was Always going to go back in time No Matter what as thats how the World might work she found out about the spell becaues her past self told her about it and thats also how she found out about so either this one big loop that always happend no matter what becaues of how the world works or there really was an Og timeline we never got to see


I connected that short episode of doctor who to twilight's loop and this makes lots of sense only if you watch the episode itself


Thank you I have always had that question Ever since I watched it keep figuring questions out


The process of elimination from guessing or something found to say it when it is already found before it is found

Lost doc poster of Celestia

Return Cerberus and the scar

Vase Falling down

Twilight Sparkle doesn't recognize the signs

Stop time time travel and no disater never strikes

Even logically impossible is
The main idea is the same
Deeper unseen process

Some iteration came and said


I think future sawtooth might be right, aldo I also think that there is another possibility. I think someone else wrote something similar in the comments, and I agree with them, they wrote it before me so it's their opinion and this is just my take on it. I think current Twilight, the ruler of Equestria, went back in time to tell her past self not to worry about every little thing, she told her that she'd become ruler of Equestria one day and that everything will always be fine with her friends by her side. After that past Twilight freaks out and starts worrying that she isn't up to the task. Alicorn Twilight was worried about it at the beginning of season 9 so it's no stretch to imagine that unicorn Twilight would worry even more. Because of her worries Twilight decides to disaster-proof Equestria in order to prepare for taking over as the ruler even though that wouldn't happen any time soon. After thinking that she still hasn't done enough and is still not ready, Twilight tries to stop time, but after Spike and Pinkie convince her to stop worrying she travels to the past to tell her past self not to worry but her past self is to excited and she doesn't have time to tell her. That causes past Twilight to freak out and then the loop starts. That's my take on it, and again I say I think someone wrote something similar in the comments and I agree with them.


I’ve been thinking… if friendship is magic, than why is twilight an element?


thank you so much for making this<br>a man of similar intellect, I see.

thank you so much for making this
a man of similar intellect, I see.


You and Doctor wolf are tired for my favorite mlp theorizing channels! Please make lots ASAP 🥰🥰🥰🥰


It's so confusing! Like whole <b>"DARK"</b> series

It's so confusing! Like whole *"DARK"* series


Time travel is by far the most confusing thing<br>It makes my brain cells die

Time travel is by far the most confusing thing
It makes my brain cells die


Nice. Addition: The moment Twilight told Pinkie Pie about these worries/future Twilight - Pinkie gives Celestia a heads up -- leading to the guard opening the door for Twilight! Oh and how does this flood/broken bridge/Doggie-run effect the OTHER timelines caused by Starlight's spell? After all, without Twilight in Celestia's school, friends and defeating Nightmare Moon, would she have done that?


This theory actually makes a lot of sense.


Keep on talking to yourselves 😁 and as for the peridoxes, they ALL could happen one way or another


Thought you were gonna use "Before the Flood
" as your example from Doctor Who, but "Space" and "Time" works too.


Travel to the past <i>always</i> complicates things.

Travel to the past _always_ complicates things.


Hi I'm river! I have a theory that's been in my head ever since I realized gusty the great was also a major part of the g1 series of mlp, so like what if every generation the story gets more recent? Like g1 series explains all- well most of what happened in the past plus the other 2 gens but mostly gen1, this theory was also more proven cause of gen 5, it was literally a representation of how the world will be in the future. Idk just a thought for a new video maybe?:)


can you do a video about why we didn't see a daybreaker timeline in the season 5 finally?!

It’s because luna was banished to the moon long before the mane six were even born so there is no way starlight preventing the rain boom would have made Luna realize she could dream walk or whatever it’s called.<br>(if you have seen the day breaker video sawtooth made this will make loads of sense)

It’s because luna was banished to the moon long before the mane six were even born so there is no way starlight preventing the rain boom would have made Luna realize she could dream walk or whatever it’s called.
(if you have seen the day breaker video sawtooth made this will make loads of sense)


LoZ: Ocarina of time has something similar Adult-Link learns the Song of Storm from Guru-Guru then goes back in time and and Young-Link teaches Guru-Guru the song.


Does one need a start? I mean, if we assume that the loop has always been there and there is no need for start?
In my opinion there are 2 types of time traveling. Perfect and imPerfect loop.

I get key from future self and open a door and hand the key to pas self -> The key will brake from use and the loop is imPerfect
I get key from fuutre self and open a door and take a key from the table and hand it to my past self -> I keep the future key so there is no braking parts in the loop making it perfect loop.

The imPerfect loop will open up with X time while Perfect loop will go on for ever.

The start can be as simple as me having ability to come to past and my future self coming past to tell me the information and to make it perfect loop I use it to go past and tell my self how I optain the time traveling -> I'm not allowed to Give my past self the time traveling machine as then it becomes item in a loop which will brake and causes imperfect loop ....


I JUST watched this episode and had this exact train of thought...what are the odds?


Tap 7:09 and then 0:10 to see the time travelling in action!


basicaly how I imagine it was, is why I never understood why people seem to have issue with this loop, maybe initiating time travel was just tes of spell she randomly found, who knows what she would do if she wasnt on her safety-quest, maybe she would go study and randomly find this, and over several instances of time traveling back, it settles on this loop, most likely we will never know what initiated this time travel loop but surely there isnt anything imposible on this (if considering time travel is possible)


Wow you blow my mind that was amazing but idk if this can work in a loop situations I mean look at the shoe Rick and Morty there are supposedly infinite timelines mabey our time line is the time line where they fixed the problem and there were countless other time lines that got it wrong and ceased to exist but idk just a thought


The loop having an entry point is possible, but not the only way it can work.
In my opinion, we only think the loop is impossible because we experience time linearly and we don't understand how it can be non-linear.
It is difficult to wrap our brain around the concept, but maybe causality just works differently than we though, and time-loops can happen just randomly.

the quantum world is certainly non intuitive, so who knows what's truly possible, or even logical!


Have you ever made a video talking about how every alicorn is female? Like have we ever seen a guy alicorn? Am i missing someone?

@Sawtooth Waves ooooohhhh, that makes sence! Thank you for responding! :D

i briefly covered it in the stallicorn video, but basically i think it's just a statistical fluke. flip a coin five times and you just might get the same result.

@saifur rahman  I'll watch it, thank you!! :D

Sawtooth has made a video about Shining Armour potentially being the first stallicorn in equestria (since all alicorns are female). That was a while back though.


This acutely makes a lot of sense but my head still hurts just thinking about it 😂


I wonder if there's a time where twilight realizes that she doesn't need to warn herself bcs the past is the past


This youtuber... is a mad genius. Who knows if he will make a time travel machine one day.


Sawtooth, I, LOVE,  the flower in your hair!


This makes a lot of sense. It kind of makes my brain hurt though!


This is completely unrelated to the video but could you do a theory on Alicorn magic?

In the first episode of S3, the crystal empire, celestial used an example of king sombras dark magic. Then S4, Zecora told twilight to use Alicorn magic and she did but it was the same type of magic sombra/celestia used


I hate and love time travel stuff
It's confusing yet so addicting

Oh and btw this does in fact help out a bit


I'm so glad you agree with me on that time paradox


I love doctor who, I love the bootstrap paradox, and I love my little pony


A time loop to fix a budget crunch that would have happened otherwise. Hilarious.


How would twilight know how to travel in time if she never got in the room that future twilight told her about


Another timeloop The Doctor encounters is between season 3 and 4 in the short Time Crash, when 10 meets Peter Davidson's 5th and David Tennant's 10th stops their fused TARDIS from exploding by doing something 10 only knew would work because he had watched 10 do it when he was 5 himself.


i am a man of culture<br>if sawtooth uploads i watch

i am a man of culture
if sawtooth uploads i watch


Did you know Cerberus is pronounced "KER ber us"? This is because in Greek the letter "C" is never pronounced as an "S". As a matter of fact, the Romans spelled the name "Kerberos".

Just like how "Icarus" (spelled "Ikaros" in Roman) is pronounced "ICK er us".


this makes me think that maybe cerberus has the cause of the posible bad timeline, cerberus is the only thing that doesnt change so to think that it may cause a desaster because the town has in bad shape and the only rason that future twilight prevented that is that past twilight got over her head with the vague warning meant and just fix everything in ponyvile, so the desaster has avoided


But, wait, if twilight is stuck in a time loop, then how could the series even possibly continue after that point, if future twilight always goes back, unless if the loop was somehow broken


After watching this I replayed the beginning to hear they say "challenge excepted." XD

*Them. Sawtooth uses they/them pronouns.


Mlp will always live on in my heart hopefully gen 5 gives me the same feeing much love to yall


The FUTURE sawtooth stays, not the past one. That means that each future self goes back to replace the past one, unless they go back to normal off camera. But if they did replace themselves, then the sawtooth from the first timeline is gone.


Wow but imagine the TVA was there in that time parodox


Theory: The dam break and flooded all of ponyville and twilight is the only one who survive. And Celestia introduce her into the the time traveling spell that was in The Starswirl wing and the rest happen.


So..the present Sawtooth went and created another paradox so we are now left with future Sawtooth?


I have something for you to work on. How did sweet apple Ackers have electricity in the first alternate reality that starlight made


What's the music you use at the end of your video? I really like it and want to listen to more of it.


I cried when i saw your pfp. Now I don’t feel alone.


What if the disaster was Cerberus getting out releasing terek early and destroying all pony life much sooner then planned in the show and as a last resort twilight jumped back in time to warn herself of what was to come, but because of twilight over eagerness to know everything it caused her to worry and in doing so it caused the loop we all know now


It's funny how you mentioned the bootstrap paradox and then used examples from doctor who because the 12th doctor spoke about the bootstrap paradox using and example to do with beatovens music


What if its an even bigger loop and what happens is that twilight realizes that her going back to warn herselg causes her to go back and such so she doesnt go but then the catastrophe happens which resets the loop all the way back to tue beggining


You should do a video on what the disaster could've been


Finally we have been waiting for 3 weeks but we knew that you going to be late, but where is your evil clone that wants revenge for you forgetting about him

Wait is the evil cloan nonbinary too? I mean it is a cloan so probubly??? Sawtooth help?


okay but wait a minute.. when celestia defeated nightmare moon she used the elements right, how did she have SIX elements with twilight's cutie mark on it? in the episode where the mane six go to the elements of harmony to defeat nightmare moon twilight said "when the spark is presented, it will cause the sixth element to appear" then how did celestia had the sixth element before them? (cmiiw!)


This is assuming a multi-dimensional quantum convergent timeline.  A strictly 1D timeline cannot do this because it would overwrite each time, so it CAN'T change in the manner shown.  Then a bootstrap paradox is resolved by time being utterly deterministic.  What happens always happens.

At the time that was the general theory.  However, the S5 finale showed Equestria does not operate on an eternalist model.

The term 'quantum convergent timelines', incidentally, is taken from the anime "In Search of Lost Time".  Itself named after a French novel but they aren't really related.
The multi-dimensional I added since it requires a 'personal' timeline to work, which since it isn't being over-written must be distinct from, though generally collinear with, the worldline.  See further PsiStarPsi's work (https://www.deviantart.com/alantarx/art/Brony-Journal-Issue-1-755009800) demonstrating the S5 finale requires at least 3 dimensions to visualize, though it can still work in 2 (since we can arrive at the original timeline without crossing every one in-between, we require 3 dimensions to show it, but with some clever geometry we can make the time continuum itself a 2D manifold embedded in 3-space).


I love how the missing dog is tarak getting out


My thing is HOW did sun and moon rised and set when cozy glow was holding all the magic under the school of friendship. Keep in mind celestia and luna were both didn't had their magic (and got back we can clearly see it) and artifacts and stuff stoped working so does other creatures magic so HOW the hell did sun and moon worked


as a big MLP and Doctor Who fan, I really like this video


but wait, why was past twilight asking all these questions like "where did you come from" etc, if the future twilight wasn't speaking yet? Future twilight had just got there and original twilight didn't have future twilight to ask those questions to.


Time-stopping spell? I can see a reference coming...


See’s Friday vid from sawtooth: <b>WOOOO YEAH BABY</b>

See’s Friday vid from sawtooth: *WOOOO YEAH BABY*


If Twilight can’t find a paradox she’ll make a paradox, that’s how Twilight works.


It's also called a temporal causality loop


Fun fact: this is called a “bootstrap paradox.”

The classic example was explained brilliantly by the Doctor (google it)


Once you think you know something of a paradox your thoughts are turned upside down this is why we don’t need time machines though I will make an exception for the doctor


Oh so that’s why it’s called the bootstrap paradox- never knew that!


But what if Future Twilight succeeded in convincing Past Twilight to NOT worry? Will the disaster happen again and prompting another time loop?


U SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE CREATOR OF MLP DUDEEE!!!!


Can you do more on Daybreaker/Nightmare Noon lol. Like how she was able to overpower her sister only momentarily? I'm confused please help! Also what would happen if Daybreaker and Grogar fought who would win?


This is like in math. Repeat an algorithm enough times and it will settle into a stable state or run off to infinity.


You absolute mad lad/lass you actually have done it


I am not even sure a disaster did happen to start the chain it could be something like: Twilight feels like something is going to go wrong so she starts panicking, Her friends do what they think will help Twilight and she eventuallu calms at the end. Twilight being Twilight feels like she wasted a week goes looking for the Time Travel Spell but when Future Twilight keeps getting cut off my Twilight, she has to pivot and clarify which makes Twilight cut Future Twilight off more which starts the Loop.

Considering Twilight out Twilight her future self, i can see her accidently getting worried over "Dont Worry"


nothing i would recommend, working on getting new software soon


If the past twilight in the first situation did worry and did solve everything does that mean the first twilight to start the loop is out of trouble and the danger is no more?


I have seen Doctor Who before but I don't remember seeing Space and Time at all. I watched where Twilight time traveled to herself though.


but what happend to the first Twilight after she went back in time?
how did it go?
and how did Ponyvil look?


Omg what a coincidence I was literally thinking about this for a week
Edit:omg thank you so much for 15 likes it only the highest number I’ve ever gotten is 4
Edit again after an hour:23…..I think this is the best Friday night ever!
Edit again:I-………….I have nothing to say WITH 25 LIKES!?
Edit again:I keep coming back here and every time I get more likes! Omg I’m gonna scream

@Anu’s mushrooms Nevermind just forget that I said anyting.

@Anu’s mushrooms the periods you put after a finish sentence.

@Anu’s mushrooms Are you okay because all those periods tells me you're not.

Dude

One time I got like 600 likes
Get on my level
Ha ha Just kidding I have no level
Anyway
Congrats!


Funny thing about this video is the fact he created a paradox while explaining it


Remember your tree of harmany-discord as yin yang theory one thing is still missing there are spirits of both chaos and harmony but no tree of chaos. Also if starswirl/grogar created discord, from that time he was training himself and his chaos magic and see how expert he was in chaos magic in s2 and 4. And frogs could have created one to make tyranny and one chaos and it still matches ep discordant harmony and grogar may have created only one chaos creature and that was dicord


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@Sawtooth Waves    I have a theory, has anything gotta do with the Other Worlds..For insatnce Sunset shimmer... in the episode..Sunset used World traveling...But theres nothing that proves she didnot go BACK in time OR IN THE future fir the pony world!...I feel the Poratl might be Something like that but It changes worlds eith the time..! Welp it was something i figured so thought id share!! Hope it gives u some lesd if u understsnd LOl


I thought of this when I first watched this, IM SO SMART


I think starlight was the only one who understood time travel


I feel smarter

Ethier way I now want to find a fanfic about the original timeline with the disaster


had to find this video again. I've just realized something. how does the DJ pony's headphones work and where did they come from? obviously equestria doesn't have technology like phones and computers but she's always listening to something and they are completely digital. I know there is a pony named Doctor Hooves (a reference to doctor who) could he have possibly brought her from the future. or if not how did she acquire such headphones that don't seem to have a source. and to add to this no pony else in ponyvill who even sees her questions them either..

I would say headphones are a thing in equestria. Different from cellphones and computers that would be hard to a pony manage unless that they are unicorns. headphones can easily be worn. Also i belive alot of functions of a cellphone and computer are resolved with easy magic or the ability to fly so theres no reason to have them. But im pretty sure thay old phones are a thing in Equestria.


I know I'm late saying this. But your video reminds me of a fantastic that had a similar event. I can't remember the name. But it revolves around twilight's mysterious death.


Did anyone else just notice the non-binary bg in the profile?<br>Good for you dude :]

Did anyone else just notice the non-binary bg in the profile?
Good for you dude :]


i was down a deep whole of you tube and finally found you after so many years!


This is just crazy and my head is also spinning ☹


When you’ve watched the game theory episode on time travel in kingdom hearts and you probably know how it’s going to be explained before you watch this video and both franchises have friendship and magic but one is owned by Disney.<br>I haven’t watch the video yet that is just my prediction. If it isn’t that’s on me for writing this before I watch it.

When you’ve watched the game theory episode on time travel in kingdom hearts and you probably know how it’s going to be explained before you watch this video and both franchises have friendship and magic but one is owned by Disney.
I haven’t watch the video yet that is just my prediction. If it isn’t that’s on me for writing this before I watch it.

Ok he used dr who logic so I’m not sure if it works the same to every time traveler that tells there past self something this is going to drive me crazy time travel is weird.


I guess it makes sense, but I'm still confused. Time is a fikle mistress.

It would make a little more sense if it worked like Dragonball Z/z Kai/super time travel

But I'm with everyone else, finally someone else asks this


Wait, if Sawtooth got this info from his future self, where did it originally come from? Hmm... 🤔


Wait- how did I not notice the Enby flag in your pfp? Anyways- what are your pronouns?


this guy solved a major philosophy question for my little pony


The last timeline when starlight was evil and time traveling we didn’t think much of it but what if that was caused by all of the villains.<br>For example, Sunset, or nightmare moon

The last timeline when starlight was evil and time traveling we didn’t think much of it but what if that was caused by all of the villains.
For example, Sunset, or nightmare moon


Lemme posit another thing-- The Decaying Timeloop.

Alright
An episode of Milo Murphy, one of his friends throws a peach at their past selves to save them from an on-coming threat. His friend's past self picks up the same Peach, which will be used in their future, and perpetuate the same paradox. The gag comes in when two of Milo's friends debate on where the hell this peach came from.

However
This posits the idea of the Decaying Paradox loop. The important bit isn't that the Peach was there, its that its a Peach. A biological organic thing that, as far as we can tell, will eventually rot over the course of these loops. Eventually culminating into possible dust and decay of its core. Meaning that, eventually, the Threat will catch up to the Crew in a future timeline.

If the loop has an underlying start, as you were theorizing, then there is an underlying end (Because the only thing that is endless in spacetime as we know it, is Space itself). As you said, Twilight's Appearance escalated as the loop perpetuated, but because there was change to the paradox as it grew older, that means there will be a point where the paradox stops entirely or changes so much that the original intent is lost.

Whether this means that the loop starts all over again, cos the threat pops up, is up for debate.
... like where the hell the damn peach came from.


There was a doctor who 2 parter (before the flood and …) which featured this paradox and a monologue with an example


Now that mlp is over , it must be hard making more theories


Omg I was questioning the same thing then I thought of Cerberus and that maybe she was trying to warn herself about tirek escaping because of Cerberus leaving the gate for a bit


I wanna know if sawtooth waves is gonna write about what is gonna happen after the cartoon ends


yay u posted i've been waiting for a new video


I learned about the bootstrap paradox from Doctor Who.


flurry heart the friendship fire was created by freindship and when it forms it swirls and flurries around to make the shape of a heart .


I don’t speak English very well, and I didn’t understand many things 🥲🥲, but I still understand that you are smart and have cool ideas ❤


Nah dawg this is impossible. Everything that will happen has already happened in another you's universe, and everything that happened before will happen in another you's future. Changing the past or changing the future is completely impossible.


100th Comment, freaking excited for G5! Soecially after the cast reveall!


“Y'all remember the episode where future twilight went back in time to warn her past self not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place? <br>Just.make.it.stop.

“Y'all remember the episode where future twilight went back in time to warn her past self not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?Which resulted in her going back in time and warning herself not to worry which caused her to worry in the first place?
Just.make.it.stop.

To anyone who sees this comment, i dare you to read the whole comment


At least it is a continuous loop that doesn't change the timeline. Hate it when shows or movies just make a thousand alternate timelines without doing anything about it


SAWTooth You're supposed to be taking a break from time travel!


Sawtooth I have a question, how do you feel about the my little pony a new generation, and when it comes out will you make theories on it?


I loved it, i used to think of this topic a lot, itnreally solved it!


Did my man just solve the bootstrap paradox???


I have a theory. Since Twilight Sparkle rules Canterlot, who will rule the Castle of Friendship? The only thing I know is that it could probably be Luster Dawn after she makes friends.


Please do a video about the timber wolves!! I have a theory if you’d like to use it. Basically in the episode “spike at your service “ spike gets saved by applejack which spike feels like he has to repay him for life. At the end of the episode spike and applejack get attacked by timber wolves. The way the wolves reconstruct themselves looks like it was ancient magic or some type of sour Rey as if some pony created them for a reason. Maybe the former queen of the changlings, or princess clelestia and princess Luna to protect the tree. Idk just some theory 😅 hope you see this comment!!


I came up with this same theory a while back!


wait when did the pfp change?! IS SAWTOOTH NON-BINARY?

@Sawtooth Waves oh awesome, I am as well! What are your pronouns? Mine are it/xe/they/he

Sorry if I missed something important, I don't really keep up with YouTube and I don't follow you on anything thing else.


Did Tirek escaped Tartarus during this episode ? Because Cerberus wasn't there so it would be a perfect opportunity. Also if he escaped then when was he all the time until the end of season 4?


Bro you have a really sharp mind these things are complicated but you make them sound so easy


The problem is she was only rly worried she hadn’t stopped the disaster because she noticed the signs of becoming future twilight, but like you said those signs wouldn’t have been there with your theory so it probably wouldn’t have started the loop.


Yes finally early I haven’t watched the video yet but I know it’s gonna be great <br>Edit: 1 like yes oh it me itself

Yes finally early I haven’t watched the video yet but I know it’s gonna be great
Edit: 1 like yes oh it me itself


you didnt just solve a MLP mystery but the actual irl mystery omg


Ok so 3 ways this could have not happend
1 she could have used a spell on her past spell to get her to stop talking sinc she knew it was going to happen
2 she could have not told her past self as to not cause the worry in the first place
3 or she could pull a snails and “ not worry about it”


wAIT HANG ON IS THAT THE NON-BINARY FLAG IN THE BACKGROUND OF YOUR PROFILE<br>Edit: WAIT WAS THIS COMMON KNOWLEDGE HOW DID I MISS THIS HOLY SHIZZ NON-BINARY UNITEEEEE

wAIT HANG ON IS THAT THE NON-BINARY FLAG IN THE BACKGROUND OF YOUR PROFILE
Edit: WAIT WAS THIS COMMON KNOWLEDGE HOW DID I MISS THIS HOLY SHIZZ NON-BINARY UNITEEEEE

@Raptor Zeraora They have their pronouns in the about section of their channel and it says they're non-binary there to lol.

We dont know the reason why that is, someone could have that because they like yellow and white colors, its best not to assume things

@Gamovie Studios I feel you, bro/sis/sib. Coming out of the closet is very difficult, even if you know people will accept you! You might feel nervous or awkward or not know how to. I didn't know how to tell my family so I kinda just... Posted it on my Instagram story and waited for them to see it. I felt like I was chickening out but in retrospective it was funny.

@SMG Productions i did the exact opposite lol. I was so scared of people’s reactions that i just woke up one day and pretended it was common knowledge. In hindsight not the greatest strategy but its over and done with now

Hahaha it makes sense that people take some time to notice. It was very casual. They didn't make a video announcing it or anything. They just changed their profile picture and waited for people to notice. I can respect that nonchalant method. I kinda did it myself when I came out.


It is likely about what you said but there might be more to it, eh we will never know, also TYSM for creating this channel


Don't know if you know this, but I think you solved the bootstrap paradox.


Please find more versions of yourself because every time I see you talking to myself it means I’m not the only one who dose it and I’m not mad<br>Have a nice day

Please find more versions of yourself because every time I see you talking to myself it means I’m not the only one who dose it and I’m not mad
Have a nice day


love the doctor who reference at the end


Who else understands all the confusing time loops stuff sawtooth says but when your teacher says stuff like that ur like wa????


The answer is simple think time not happen in a sequence but simultaneously meaning the going “back” in time is just you not existing in one portion of time but rather the other the going back hence everything has will and is happening from a perspective out side of time


I realize something about a while ago<br>Starlight Glimmer and one of the Dazzlings look similar (I’m not kidding) (:

I realize something about a while ago
Starlight Glimmer and one of the Dazzlings look similar (I’m not kidding) (:


🕰I always assumed a time loop had to start differently for a time loop to actually start. But really they are started by people who don't shut up. ⏳


That's pretty interesting but now my brain is hurting xD


THE WIBBLY LEVER!!

What's my first line?
Ok kids, this is where gets complicated.


When Sawtooth waves is smarter then your mom-<br>👁👄👁Good job. This is a good video xD

When Sawtooth waves is smarter then your mom-
👁👄👁Good job. This is a good video xD


Not sure if this relevant, but I just noticed. When Celestia and Luna loose their magic, their flowing manes stopped flowing. Nut, when they got their magic back, their mains started waving again. Maybe their manes are some what magical?


Omg I was waiting so much I’m so exited can you heart my comment oks it would be a dream! I love you’re vid btw


Yay a loop in the past to the future to past to future and you know the loop


the "disaster" was tirek escaping while cerberus was away from tartarus lol


I have a fair question this isn't from MLP but it's from another TV show Milo Murphy's law which also deals with time travel in one of the episodes one of the characters gets hit on the head with a peach another one of the characters then picks us up and puts it in his pocket after a few laps through different time periods they eventually end up at their first point and see their past selves something that their pastels did cause the character who got hit on the head with the peach to grab the peach from the one who picked it up and Chuck it in their direction which then in turns ends up hitting his past self in the head and the other character picks it up again so where exactly did the peach come from in the first place?


Since the events are in a show and the show is written. The events from the POV of in-universe where always going to happen


Wait how is sawtooth a unicorn in the future?! 😳


So while our Twilight became a princess there were other Twilight’s stuck in this loop


OMG I WAS LIKE 6 WHEN I SAW THIS AND IT WAS MY FIRST CONTACT WITH THE CONCEPT OF A PARADOX AND IT BLEW MY MIND!


𝗜𝘁𝘇𝗚𝗲𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗲𝗛𝘂𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗮𝗿𝗮𝘁


So the twilight who continues the other seasons is the past or the future twilight? 🤔🤔

ΒΑΛΕΡΙΑ ΒΕΝΙΕΡΗ


Hi sawtooth I was thinking can you do a video on one of these things 1:reforming sombra/cobalt 2:what would sombra/cobalt look like with the real brogans magic

And in a game I made you because i ideal you is that ok

Sorry sawtooth typo I meant to say with the real grogars magic


I thought it was referred to as a Temporal Causality Loop.

the bootstrap paradox describes the logical inconsistency that comes with causal loops.


@Sawtooth Waves LOL U R FUNNY DUDE!!<br>LOTS OF LOVE FROM INDIA!!

@Sawtooth Waves LOL U R FUNNY DUDE!!
LOTS OF LOVE FROM INDIA!!


Here is how I would solve it if I was future twilight. Future twilight: (trying to explain what not to do) past twilight: (not letting me speak) Future Twi: YO SHUT UP AND LISTEN


That makes a lot of sense I didn’t even think of it


My question:

Why does the question mark at the start look backward?
Is my brain just messed up?


everyone talks about how its a loop when you cannot be for certain that its a loop. every time it happens some differences will be done and it may change


Or, or, and here me out here what if the future twilight was trying to warn the past twilight about Tirek? Tirek escaped when the big dog did, atleast thats Celestias theory, so the real warning message never got along. I mean, whats more serious than someone draining all of equastrias magic right?


Wait when Luna came back from being nightmare moon she didn’t have wavy hair but how does that change? If Luna was from the alicorns  civilisation and earned her wings then had her flowy hair why did it change. Nightmare moons hair was flowy why did it change to straight like twilight and cadences hair when they where equestrian pony’s and turned into alicorns?


So... in other words, time travel confusing.


seems logical time travel and time itself is complicated


What if it WAS the cause to the 7th timeline. It might be the loop but I'm not sure okay?


<b>Your theories about royals makes me think about the prince that is Celestia nephew..?</b>

*Your theories about royals makes me think about the prince that is Celestia nephew..?*


If she keep going back in time they will be consequence in a timeline


plus if the disaster was big than how did  twilight know the star swirl archives to bigein with and future twilight was telling past twilight to not worry so just how big was the disaster ? so the real disaster could be twilight worrying and getting the eye patch,scar,mane and bandage,so twilight travelled back in time to tell past twilight to not to worry I mean twilight said "what ever you do don't " this is where she stopped but at the end of the episode past twilight who had become  future twilight told the same message except we heard the same but full message this time was "what ever you do don't worry" before "worry" future twilight came back to the present so the real disaster could be anything. So tell me what you think


I legit got scared when you didn’t post last week (I HAD A DREAM THAT YOU DIED NO CAP) but OMG you’re back like ITS ABOUT TIME IM SO MAD— nonoonnoono making videos is hard I shouldn’t be mad but LIKE Ugh jJiiIouffdjsidjf IM SO GLAD YOURE BACK


Hm ... your theory does work for Doctor Who, but it does not really work for MLP. For two reasons:
First: In the Doctor Who short, future Doctor arrives, present Doctor goes to the past, we are left with one Doctor. That's fine.
But in MLP, future Twilight shows up and vanishes and later present Twilight goes back in time and comes back. So, if this is a loop, but there is also a previous iteration of the timeline, shouldn't there be two future twilights in the beginning of the episode, one from this timeline and one from the previous one? Unless, of course, there isn't a loop and our Twilight has just caused yet another new timeline. However:
Second: The TARDIS can change the past. Starswirl's time travel spell can not, only Starlight Glimmer's modified version can.
So, there are no previous iterations, it is one loop.
Which leaves the question where the information about the spell came from. After all, the spell really is there, so this is outside information that can't have just originated in the loop. And I think the easiest answer is: It comes from Twilight's subconscious. She already knew about it, she just had forgotten.


hey what do you think of the mlp remake? honestly i find it a bit scary-


well looks like we have a bootstrap time paradox and a mirror bootstrap time paradox in this video.


Plot twist: Sawtooth's time travel was a skit. That spell teleported them back to the Changeling hive where another Changeling <b>pretending</b> to be their "future self" came from

Plot twist: Sawtooth's time travel was a skit. That spell teleported them back to the Changeling hive where another Changeling *pretending* to be their "future self" came from


So sawtooth said a bunch of nonses at first, then goes back in time, talks more giberish, then goes back and finnaly het it corect?


In my dream I was confused when optimal optimus showed up from transformers beast wars and then it happened again until a explosion happened and ow and yes I got cort in the explosion and found out that the event was obcerd the event was that it was a break out of all the villain and they did a massive amount of damage and Tyrix was at full power


What about this time-loop<br>(the one were you go to your past self and this happens all over again)

What about this time-loop
(the one were you go to your past self and this happens all over again)


Wait so did the distaster still happen since she couldn't time travel through her own previously established timeline since the past had happened so she might of prevented the disaster from happening from other time lines but not in her own so sadly in that timeline Equestria may be in ruins 😱😔😔😔
Unless the timeline she was originally in had a visit from an alternate timeline twilight she
🤔🤔🤔


The final of the first season of "Murphy's law". The battle against pistachios. Why a peach? Where did it come from?<br>Try to figure this own, strange unicorn

The final of the first season of "Murphy's law". The battle against pistachios. Why a peach? Where did it come from?
Try to figure this own, strange unicorn

Света Пономарева


How did twilight get out of the loop then?


WOW, WOWOWOW<br>You are a frigin genius!


Maybe do a video on the secret society that super agent sweety drops i wonder if there is more pony’s and or evidence I will be looking as well just a fun video idea thanks for reading luv ur vids


I agree but what disaster provokes the original future Twilight


5:11 It's not even a scar, just a papercut


YOU KNOW THE EMPERORS NEW GROOVE?

we’re gonna get along-     :]


This is so strange.. just yesterday I was thinking over how this makes no sense.. today I find this!


but what happened to the other future twilights?


What if in the video of when starlight glimmer made all of the timelines, what if the one that twilight sparkle showed starlight glimmer, might have been the first timeline where twilight sparkle went to tell her past self, which told her past self, so on and so forth.


This episode was confusing because past twilight had nothing to worry about in the first place, so twilight didn’t have to go into the past in the first place but then it loops around again because twilight had to warn the other twilight that future twilight was coming and she didn’t have to worry! WHAT AM I EVEN SAYING!?


There’s one problem with your theory, the spell can only be performed once

No because future Twilight would be the one to cast the spell not past Twilight


pinky must have told the original twilight the things she have to do so that the curiosity of twilight will come and prevent every twilight from that disaster.


can u plz make a fan fiction on how flurry heart saved the crystal empire


Sooo you could sayyy Twilight was dealing with... Time-space Shenanigans!? (HAHA HOMESTUCK!!)


Oh wow it's been awhile since you've been on my recommended missed your theorys

Edit: just realized I haven't seen them in awhile because I haven't been using my main yt acc


Wow 😯, how do you come up with kind of stuff?


this shows youre smart as hell and no one outside of the brony fandom will ever realize it unless they're friends with you irl


Damn i remember when Brony Notion was such a small channel so many years ago

Just know one of your day 1 fans is still here Notion!🙏🏼


This is my favorite Sawtooth Waves video


the bootstrap paradox doesn't apply to one loop the universe what was before it but then what before that it is infinite because time can't restart and it will never end since it is an constant ya it is impossible to end it since there is nothing before but there is one thing time so ya it is impossible for the universe it is infinite and not able to end


Sawtooth Wave by Nana something in season 5 episode 2 in the background when those Ponies were getting the Vault I noticed when the black one with white hair when you see her with her cutie mark the Pegasus person in the background the pony in the background who was also Pegasus had no Cutie Mark I know it's because of the line that was under his wing and when he was flying back to the village for the flying shot he had this to Vine