Bro is the most passive aggressive person in the world


“Animals get shot in their head and their throats slit for food” but in the wild they’re eaten alive, poisoned, drowned, the list goes on, all for food, it’s the food chain, not everyone has to participate in it but there’s no reason to act like it’s such a terrible act when some people have to do it or they won’t survive.

playing devils advocate I think the point of being vegan is improving the quality of life of animals by allowing them to live free before they die, not to stop them dying cause that’s gonna happen either way. if you have seen chicken farms that shit is brutal

Yeah but these animals are bred and genetically modified for the purpose of death. The meat industry raises animals in terrible conditions and then slaughter them to be eaten. And it’s done in small land mass with a large mass of animals. It’s fucked up, not natural at all.

@Aikuisviihteen arkkipiispa the people in this video and most people watching are from the us. ig its not as cruel to me bc im from alabama

@DeeVuitton if you've ever seen how they kill pigs in Brazil for example,  you'd know that it's far from a painless quick death but that's not how it is in every country obviously.

@Aikuisviihteen arkkipiispa animals do not get there throat slit😂 lmfao and when they are shot in the head it’s something called an air gun or something. no bullet goes in their head it’s just a lot of pressure and one spot. it isnt a painful death it is instant

Not a vegan but wild animals aren't held captive nor do they live just for us to eat them after living in terrible conditions. What some people see as immoral about eating meat is the mass production of conscious beings. I don't really care about the animals themselves but climate change is what worries me the most.

To be honest I'd rather be quickly shot in the head and eaten then be ravagely devoured alive by a pack of wolves.

If he hates them slit or shot on the head then what's the least painful way to kill them then? Poisoned? Drowned?

Yep especially up the north when u can’t really grow herbs in some cold ass areas. U really need meat for protein to survive the cold when before colonization came so I understand they kill pigs for food cuz we over populated af but again I understand the vegans side too cuz i love animals, but when things are desperate for survival u have too.  Like the old ancient native american way


How can there be a youtuber or whatever whos entire gimmick is being a vegan? Like what does he talk about on stream for hours, vegetables?


I kinda get Davids point. The bible was written in a time where overconsumption didn't exist and eating meat was something really special. You don't have to stop eating it but at least be conscious about it.


Ik what he meant by the animals dying isn’t a belief but being vegan is a belief because they believe that animals shouldn’t be killed but the video was pretty good


Damn he really cooked you with the lil Nas x to da baby


jidion didnt make any points just said we both have opinions, like well done so profound

@Saiology yeh so if you value plants it still makes sense to be vegan as to reduce overall harm as we use more plants when we also exploit animals… I really don’t know what you’re trying to conclude? If you had to choose between a bean chilli or kill a cow for a beef chilli what’s the most ethical option?

@Saiology if we’re using “intelligence” as a metric for moral worth then that’s undoubtedly ableism.  Claiming to believe human life is worth more doesn’t automatically mean that other animals are then worth nothing and it’s okay to rob their existence and exploit them…

@JustRoberto not to mention your also killing plants and using them for food which is also life and you technically violate plants because they dont have a nervous system(while some animals like sponges dont have one either) so again we go back to speciesism. I agree slaughter houses are to much but at the same time what is “humane”

@JustRoberto thats more speciesism then ableism if we’re talking about a cow. And we all sort of commit speciesism all the time as most of us believe human life is more valuable literally because we’re smarter. My point is speciesism is very complicated because then bugs and life of that nature come into the argument and in a way you’ll almost always be human-centric

@17x Reborn you don’t need to kill animals, just because an action will always happen doesn’t make it moral to participate in that action. Being smarter than someone isn’t a justification To violate their autonomy (this is ableism). Being vegan isn’t more expensive if you stick to grains, legumes such as lentils beans, chickpeas. Oats, apples, bananas, lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, radishes, sweetcorn, pasta, bread, berries etc.

@Steve you’re using an appeal to nature fallacy, this is the idea that what’s is natural is therefore “good. Hurricanes are natural but they aren’t then good for for us. Also rape is natural, violence is natural, other animals eat their young to avoid competition etc. So again something being “natural” has no relevance to what is good or moral. So that’s argument doesn’t hold up or else’s you must agree that any “natural” event or action is therefore good. Which you don’t agree with so…. Try again 👎💚

@T EK I never hear vegans say that when arguing with ppl and it’s disappointing honestly. Im not vegan myself but i do limit how much steak and shit ill buy and stick to mostly eggs and chicken, as well as shopping locally. Usually vegans try doing it for “animal rights” like the guy in the vid said, which tbh is not a great point when we naturally eat meat. Their living conditions are definitely controversial, but they are also killed instantly, a painless death, when using certain methods. Its the methods by which we produce and transport meat, especially beef, thats an issue.

@T EK ABSOLUTELY. Vegans need to be more vocal about this. The agricultural industry is horrible for the environment as its not only unsustainable and uses up too much freshwater, but its the primary contributor to climate change. Vegans need to be more vocal about this.

JiDion just could have at least tried putting up a better argument.

@Steve I’m not even a vegan or vegitarian but I think most people don’t question if it’s natural or not. just that mass production of cattle etc is bad for the environment and the way in which they’re treated is morally wrong. So that wouldn’t have been a great response either ngl

The vegan guy had decent points. However, JiDion couldve said something like “in nature, carnivores and omnivores eat meat. Nothing unnatural about eating meat”

he did when he reacted to it on stream lol


This vegan dude is trippin
He is obviously saying your religion is outdated
I am a believer as well and that dude is not understanding your side of the argument 😂

Think about the second amendment, a lot of people it’s outdated because how “different” times were there’s always going to be one side that believes a way, then the other side that believes the opposite. No point of waisting time, when no one is wrong or right because what is real is just what someone we have never known said it was right.


You know what, if you get ptsd from cutting up an animal that's pretty sad. Its pretty gruesome I'm ngl but if you kill the animal before hand and then dress it and skin it its really not that bad. I was pretty young the first time I saw someone do it and it was a bit gross and horrific at first but whenever you realize that its giving you food and nourishment it makes you feel better about it. I think the way people mass produce livestock and have them in poor living conditions is wrong but at the same time meat is very nutritious and has a lot of benefits. If humans weren't meant to eat meat then why were we given the ability to. I mean most meats you can eat raw. I think a lot of animal rights activists just dont use there brain tbh.

The thing about being vegan I don't think it helps anything because animals kill each other everyday, except in a way more gruesome fashion


Hes so vegan his eyes sunken into his skull


I mean the slavery that the Bible talks about is not the same as slavery that was experienced in early America. In the Bible slavery was for people who had been in debt and they work to repay their debt. Once the date was repaid or seven years of their service had passed they were free to go. There’s other types of slavery mentioned in the Bible, but those were not justified.


1:38 Bro just randomly hugged a grandma. Shit wholesome lmao 💀💀


Animals literally kill each other in cruller ways😭

I just finished watching a video of a lion eating a pigs intestines while it was still alive, why in the world would y’all vegans prefer that over what we do?


The slaughter process has two stages: Stunning, when performed correctly, causes an animal to lose consciousness, so the animal can't feel pain.


Bro jidion lokey destroyed this guy in an arguement wtf


The thing is, is that animals of all kind are meant to die, life is a continuous cycle of life and death. Its the circle of life, the predators feed on the prey, the strong feed on the weak. Its just how nature works.


Man acting like he called a hit man on the cow


Vegan: tells the truth

Non Vegans: how dare you, how extreme are you?

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n Bruhhh stop making me hungry 😭🤤

@SansUnderfail whos to say they are not food? Cook kittens and barbecue dogs

@Cook Iez do you understand the vegan position?

@Isaiah ' Depends which opinion the vegan holds

@Mciwiviwjvw yeah because they're pets not food

Yeah cuz he dissed his opinion, but when you diss the opinion of a vegan it's not okay..?

@Cook Iez I’m sure you’d feel different if those animals were cats and dogs

Vegan: protests in mcdonalds*
normal human: eats food in a certain restaurant*
Vegan: "WHAT NOO HOW DARE YOU ANIMALS DURR FEELINGS DUUUR"


I'm not vegan by any stretch, and I don't care if they don't eat meat.
The problem is when they start getting aggressive over your choices or gatekeeping veganism by knowing what is and isn't vegan and starting arguments with others over it or trying to force it on others.

I doubt any meat eater is happy with the concept of an animal being poorly treated and in inhumane conditions, then made to suffer in their final moments. Sure having to kill animals to get meat sucks but it's something we've done since humans walked the Earth.

Preston W Are you actually trying to compare something that is primal in hundreds of different species with slavery that's only occurred in one?

Great logic.


What a debate…. 👏👏👏 vegan had very lacking arguments


Usually vegans do not have leather products (zooms in on headset he’s wearing)


if he believes in veganism and that he's protecting animals, good for him, but he shouldn't go around and push that onto others and claim his beliefs are factual and others are outdated or simply not :/


Bruh Jidions camera is 480p quality and that only makes it better


A great debate I saw with a vegan was that would they feed their cat or dog meat as that’s what the pet needs biologically as a carnivore and the vegan said yes because it’s animal cruelty if they didn’t feed the carnivore meat soooo the vegan would buy meat for their pet but be mad at a human who wants to eat meat as it’s in our human instinct/evolution to eat meat 😊


It is really simple actually. Food chain. Humans are just the top of the food chain.


Even if everyone did go vegan it wouldn’t be sustainable and it would cause a work market crash since economies kind of rely on food markets since it’s such a big part of its society


Its a little thing called the circle of life


The other guy makes me want to try more vegan options. Jidion was respectful but I don’t think he understands veganism isn’t a religion. There have been countless videos and document put out regarding the cruel and unusual treatment of animals in these slaughter houses. Many were closed down and many forced to change their practices. From what I understand the point he was trying to make, veganism is a goal. Great video!

@Father Mullet damn bro you’re so clever. vegans are quaking. They haven’t heard that one before 🙄

You know plants are alive, right? They breathe, eat and adapt just like animals.


Jidion could have e caused religion and actually killed veganism with evolution and smashed his arguement.


I like how these vegans fight for animals but don't fight for baby's in the womb. Amazin'

Nice grammar champ! Two wrongs don't make a right.


pretty ironic that he mentions we should sacrifice a lamb for the most high and by david rams logic he  would be going against his religion if he didnt  but then wouldn't having sex before marriage also be against your religion? but ur proud to be a raw dogger lmao, also im not vegan or david rams fan, just curious


Bro, thank you for staying strong with our religion. Much love for you bro.


Not a vegan but if I were arguing for that side I would bring up the environmental impacts. Like the amount land use to grow the feed for the animals and grazing, plus water consumption, and also methane released from cows all create negative consequences for our planet.


Most of time livestock are killed in large numbers in butcheries, so nobody waste time to slip troats or waste bullets. They usually use pneumatic spikes or electricity. Trying to present simple butchers like Al-Kaeda :D


why is this age restricted im scared to watch it


I love animals but I’m still gonna meat every day, it’s part of the life cycle


When the dude brought slavery being in the bible that was the best uno reverse play I've seen, Jidion crapped after that.

@Xurs Exotic Karma isn't in Christianity.

@Xurs Exotic ain't no way you just tried to tell me about the bible will talking about KARMA. read the comments bro you're wrong and do research

@Xurs Exotic and God did save the Israelites out of egypt

@Xurs Exotic you talk like you wrote the Bible

@Khumo no he did not. Are we talking about the bible jesus or the real life jesus. The irl Jesus was just a god fearing man in a time where people weren't believing in god. That's the only reason he was written as "God's son." Jesus did jack shit. The Egyptians were African in appearance too. Also fact; the African countries you see going through it are paying their debt in karma since thise were the african countries who enslaved people.

@Xurs Exotic yeah that's true because people took it and used it to their benefit (the white man). But even Jesus took the israelites out of slavery from Egypt you know

@Raika yes it was. Search up "how to turn a negro christian" also the Hebrew Israelites who were Africans made the bible. It was stolen and changed many times over hundreds of years.

@Khumo it was used to enslave. The bible has been corrupted.

He said the bible promoted slavery, last time I checked God freed his people from slavery, just because slavery is mentioned doesn't mean it was supported.

The bible doesn't promote slavery, it just talks about how it happens. It even says in the bible those who made slaves will become slaves themselves

Lol, he crapped himself when he said when he used the lamb as a sacrifice. 🤣🤣🤣Christians ain't sacrificing lambs .

@Brandon Sardinas he didn’t say all white ppl fam 😂

WARNING ⚠ JESUS COMMANDS YOU TO REPENT OR PERISH!!! YOUR SOUL IS ON THE LINE!!!!!!

@Michael why are you stereotyping all whites to share the same beliefs

White ppls fav go to. Y’all obviously lost that one


The vegan guy seems better than a lot,  but got a couple things wrong. Some people do go vegan for the diet, it’s not all people who don’t believe in not harming animals like he stated. Also, him saying “objective truth” is cocky and untrue


Just say that it's a natural thing, and instant W for us non vegans

@Scoot oh but I agree with your statement about it not being an instant W, but only towards intelligent vegans like the man in the video.

@Scoot nah you cappin why would you bother even replying if ur not a vegan


i see this guy's point but chicken tastes soooooo good


I don't get why you can't agree that killing animals is wrong especially now that there are other methods for food, and just cause its wrong doesn't mean you have to stop eating it. I am eating a steak right now  🤤


He pulled out “The Bible supports slavery” bro homie don’t even know what he’s talking about 🤣


He took it well. Sure as hell better than I would’ve 😂 By the wayy some of y’all pretty misinformed thinking you can’t have a varied, healthy plant based diet 🤨


Can't believe you cooked beef INFRONT OF HIM.  Bacon is better bro


Animals arent actually sliced in the through, they get a nice metal rod into the brain real fast and painless like. Meat stays delicious when that blood stays in em.


That guy: “I’m an atheist.”<br>Same guy once a valid point is made: “the Bible promotes slavery” lol.

That guy: “I’m an atheist.”
Same guy once a valid point is made: “the Bible promotes slavery” lol.


To every vegan I just want to say this, how do you think animals die in the wild? Most of them are eaten, shot,  poisoned or suffer long painful deaths to the build up of injuries. This is actually one of the better ways you can live as a animal being fed, sheltered and away from preditors till you die.


The vegan dude is chill but most vegans are just too aggressive and intense.


I think that meat eaters (me) aren't doing any wrong because 9 times out of 10, we are not the ones killing the animal.


Love how he’s damn near a millionaire and starts most of his vids in Walmart hahah 🐐🐐🐐


low key jidion is speakin fax. vegans shouldn’t be focused on the ppl who buy, when the animals are still going to get farmed & killed anyway. and obviously they’d stop farming them if they got no money, but its not going to change, you cant change all meat-meaters and just get them to stop buying meat when it’s so simple to do. just a worthless argument tbh, eat what you want and let people eat what they want. the world is still going to go round. & i love animals to death, but why even think abt it that much if it bothers you, logically speaking it isnt going to change. respect if anyone can actually change it but i doubt it.


funny thing is.. everytime i hear from a vegan i am reminded to eat meat.. if i hear nothing from vegans i forget to eat meat.


you should do a cooking meat in vegan restaurant pt. 2


People need to understand that its part of our nature to eat animals because they are our prey. If we didn't then there would be an overpopulation of animals. What I think everyone can agree upon is the cruelty and mistreat of those animals is wrong.


I was smacking on some chicken while watching this


The vegan is saying his opinions are not beliefs they're Truth with a capital T. That's what's wrong with the world.


Animals are not shot in the head and as a farmer I love all my goats, pugs, and cows amd treat them as my own children.


Wait until these vegans read all the studies that say plants can feel pain too. lmao


Most slaughter houses slaughter with instant death. To say they are shot in the head and then their throats are slit is true, but it’s more of an exaggeration to subtlety hint at animal torture which is not the case.


jidion love the videos, just wanted to point out something about sacrificing animals as a christian we don't have to do that because Jesus paid the ultimate sacrifice for our sins so we don't have to sacrifice animals any more. and i am a meat eater lol

@Ønly Angel Gtfo here. Slavery was slavery back then. Don't water that sh*t down.

@Ønly Angel tht doesn’t even sound slavery tbh idk if there’s any other word for it tho

and touching on to what the guy said, yes the bible agreed with slavery but the slavery back then was more like working off your debt. It’s not like they were being forced to do another’s bidding. It’s the same as going to a restaurant and not having money so you end up washing the dishes.


I think if a lot of these vegans should talk more about the environmental aspects of not having meat. And not just the constant back and fourth talking about morals.


Ok so he is right about modernizing some things from the Bible but also keep in mind since jidion is apparently Christian which I’m glad he believes in the Bible. The Bible says the an animals soul is not as worth as a humans soul so killing a human is far worse than killing an animal(depending on the moral you’re doing it for) we should take care of animals and we shouldn’t abuse them as they are still gods creation but god gave us animals for food.


I don’t like how much meat pollute our world.

😭 But i love the taste of meat 😭

I would love to eat fake meat If you make it taste as good as real meat


Who  exactly is the guy that made the statement?


When JiDion said he believed in God, my respect went from 100 to 10000000🙏💯 📈📈📈📈

@JgPapi Even the crazy ass murderers and child rapists priests and horrible religious people out there? Dang bro you gotta reevaluate how you respect people lol

@Byron Venables he is real just cause he can’t cure everything in your life doesn’t mean he isn’t real😐

@Sean Mensah Bonsu I agree, plenty of people say they believe but they don't show any respect at all. That's why people should judge others by the content of their character and personality first rather than religion and appearance.

@Byron Venables he did you need to open your eyes too see if your alive rn right? God has kept you 1 month that’s a sign of him helping yoh

@Bogi Man no and that’s because we are humans we don’t have a say in this no matter how biased you are God isnt and never will be his standereds is different then ours meaning Stealing A Candy bar is just as bad as Stealing a Plane or Thinking about Murder is just as bad as committing ting it

@alex burke if they repent and see the light after atoning for their sins (Serving A Sentence) they shall be deemed a Christian and a good person the famous saying There’s No such thing as bad people it’s just people who make poor decisions is simply a saying indicating that everyone in the world has sinned and has done bad all on the same levels on heavens standered if you ask for forgiveness and truly repent for your sins you will be saved meaning you will be lifted of rape,murder,stealing,etc

@JgPapi Anyone can say that they "believe" in God but not respect him at all. His whole channel is evidence of that. I'm not one to judge (because I'm on his channel while enjoying his content like you guys) but it's very easy to say that and not actually be active in faith. Here's what Jesus said if you wanna show how much you love him:<br>"If ye love me, keep mu commandments" -John 14:15"

@JgPapi Anyone can say that they "believe" in God but not respect him at all. His whole channel is evidence of that. I'm not one to judge (because I'm on his channel while enjoying his content like you guys) but it's very easy to say that and not actually be active in faith. Here's what Jesus said if you wanna show how much you love him:
"If ye love me, keep mu commandments" -John 14:15"

@Byron Venables There is a word for that, it’s called hero.

Is God a hero? no, he’s God and you can never say that what he didn’t do makes him bad because you don’t know what would happen.

Sounds absolutely stoopid. You sound like an absolute follower.

@Nick Kerr no. They just get more of it. Stop putting words in their mouth just because you want to bitch and cry. Cope

Why yall disrespecting my man, he believes what he believes and u believe what u believe. Ur going against exactly what jidion was saying in this video😂

@Byron Venables Lame excuse for desperate ppl, because not even a single mainstream religion suggests that God works in the way you're suggesting.

@alex burke Again, if you read my comment, people change. you cannot compare a person from 10, 20 years ago. Again, throw the first stone if you are without sin.

@Bogi Man If I was perfect, like God, I could. In theory, a Christian should be able to forgive and forget. But God knows our limits. But to answer your question, I don't think I'd be able to. I don't think it's truly possible to forgive a murderer. But in the end, it's not either if I forgive, it's God who chooses.

@Byron Venables that’s not how it works but ok pal

If god was real he would have helped me by now.

@Julien Magalhães if somebody murdered a person very close to you and repented about their actions, would you forgive them?

@Sl.a.....y.. let's judge people for their actions of year ago. You, who have done nothing wrong, throw the first stone.

@Mike Miller If they do it in the name of God. They're not Christians. If they've done crimes, sent to prison and repented, and are sorry of their actions, then they deserve respect.

@JgPapi all it takes for your full respect is to believe in god??? There are murderers out there that are believers in god…

@Nick Kerr God* and I never said I didn’t, stop jumping to conclusions.

So you don’t respect people who don’t believe in god?

@Blitch because that’s amazing, anyone a believer of God automatically earn my full respect.


U should’ve brought up the nutritional part of eating meat and how u need those nutrients and even if u can take supplements the nutrients in animals are much better for us and our body’s are designed to digest the meat in animals because of how we evolved our bodies get the most out of the things it’s evolved to digest and one of those things are meat from animals


Ok, but how does a lion kill his prey tho? 🤨


bruh im just saying several species kind need us to survive, deer repopulate pretty fast so hunters have to hunt them to make sure other animals can survive and sheep were bred to produce too much wool so they would die of heat stroke if they weren’t sheared and shooting something in the head is an insta kill in most circumstances but also i doubt animals are shot in the head it just seems like one of those things people say that has no factual backing they’re just trying to make as gruesome of a scene as possible


8:50 i would assume they would have a similar level of moral values to a human so prob no

Adolf has changed he's reformed normally he would say yes as he would classify them as the 'inferior race' big respect to my boi Adolf for changing his ways.


Mad respect to Jidion for believing in the Bible, it was also very agitating when he said the Bible was written 1000 of years ago what he is basically saying is that we are outdated but if u look at other religions like budisuhm that was created a thousand years ago and he did not say that it was outdated

@freemit Bro what? U the one with an alt account💀💀💀

@AML academy how can there be fake proof

@Jonah Mansoor ain’t know proof but fake proof

@Jonah Mansoor their internet trolls, don't listen to them

@Atte Puurtinen bc there is proof of Jesus and objects stated in the Bible

@Atte Puurtinen you’ve literally went on an alt account to type that in, good for you

@Atte Puurtinen ok and? call them what you want too

@Jonah Mansoor Fax mad respect for Jidion for believing in fairy tales🙏🙏🙏

@Zfaevagames yes is there a problem abt that


Cows don't get their throat slit (obviously). Cows that are practically already dying get killed in the most humane way possible. They don't just torture it


Veganism is a health thing, not just a “humanity” thing.


Well here’s my rebuttal, Jesus came to die for our sins so we don’t have to do any burnt offerings. You can eat meat or be vegan it’s not going against God. With this said jiDion was trolling the whole time.


bro after the vegans heard what happened they instantly apologized to JiDion


Heres the thing with religion and veganism. Not believing in a religion doesn't not hurt anyone (except arguably yourself), while not eating meat leads to less animals suffering. It is not even comparable to compare someone trying to convert another to a Christian and a vegan trying to convert another to being vegan. Christinanity is based on faith and beliefs, while veganism is based on the fact that animals suffer when you eat meat.


Plants can feel pain too though. They’re also living. Whenever you eat plants, yes it might be less messed up than eating animals but you’re still killing a living being that can feel pain.

@Andre C. it’s not a guarantee but since plants can feel things that touch them there is a strong possibility that they can feel a type of pain that we can’t comprehend.

@Andre C. There’s literally hundreds of studies showing that plants can feel pain. Look it up

Plants don't have pain receptors, a nervous system, or brain. What makes you think they can feel pain?


Good and Jesus loves you all spread the gospel


actually dumped on him with that religion piece


Damn it got so intense when they started debating 😂😂


Vegans just can’t separate their view of animals from Humans… critical thinking is a huge factor


What vegans do by abstaining from animal products and exposing animal farms with POOR conditions is necessary but they’re obnoxious about it sometimes. It feels exactly like being judged by religious people ew


Its a compliment being told you went from being LIL NAS X TO DABABY headahhhhh


In Leviticus 11, the Lord speaks to Moses and Aaron and sets out which animals can be eaten and which cannot: “You may eat any animal that has a divided hoof and that chews the cud. There are some that only chew the cud or only have a divided hoof, but you must not eat them.


He was actually a really good sport about the whole thing


animals are not shot in the head, they actually have needle stamp that stamps into their head and retracts leaving a whole and instantly keeling the animal which is scientifically proven to have impact of tortue and is the most humane and is 100 not painful because everything happens less than 2 seconds


Ok I didn’t actually care about what he said until he started saying things about the bible that are simply not true. Things such as ‘the bible justifies slavery’. He never read a line from the book but found some article online saying how the bible is bad, without doing any actual research


People be the most toxic hateful dudes online and then get a chance to grab some clout and be nice as fuck lmao


my personal view is that we are higher on the heircechy, we can eat animals just the same as predators eating herbivours, there isnt a "moral" choice there is only a choice that will keep you alive. morality is a human and animal construct, at the end of the day all we are doing is passing energy from place to place.

Preston W well not exactly not living without thats my bad I shouldve said it better, I meant to say health problems. any diet needs balance which includes meat red meats white meats etc.

@fungling yeah true and especially now only recently that we have stuff like vitaman pills and iron pills and stuff.

Preston W first of all im not causing suffering im eating the leftovers, two this isnt a human construct passing energy and eventually reaching high entropy is a universe thing not a human thing, morality is a human construct however and even though I am calling it that im still a human so im gonna conform to it which makes me a hyprocrit. and also humans cant live without eating meat, meat is a valuable protein source that aids in muscle growth and provides important nutrients we need to survive, some people who dont eat meat have health issues that their doctors ask them to address by eating meat. (also predators eat meat and cause suffering so you have no grounds to call this a moral issue while other animals do the exact same thing).

I wouldn't say it's 'only a choice that will keep you alive' since you can live without eating animals, although you'd have to be especially careful about maintaining a balanced diet


Was this age restricted for anyone else for a while?


You cant cancel someone that doesnt care 💀


I get the argument that animals who are slaughtered live in inhumane conditions but I don't get how vegans can talk about "slitting animals throats is evil" when every single carnivorous animal kills other animals to sustain themselves.


not only does the bible talk about the passover but there is a scripture in Genesis that talks about killing and using animal products for good. for containment (population). We are not to just kill as we please because it is a fun game, we are to utilize God's creations and use them for our survival.


I ate a fuckin burger while watching this 🤣


I can respect vegans when they dont want animals tortured, but if we didnt have animals to eat we cant survive we would be extremely weak eating just plants, even if we are advancing animals are not some extremely intelligent creatures they are just apart of the food chain and happen to be under us if they were above they would eat us with no hesitation.


Jidion needs to have dababy every outro like how baylen Levine has hello fans at the end of every one of his videos 😂😂


This guy believes no one should have freedom to eat food they enjoy. Shooting an animal to eat them is a lot better than a wild animal tearing them to bits while they are still conscious. Idk  this guy has an case of I’m right you’re wrong while I’m just trying to not starve


Animals do not have a soul like humans do. God created animals as a source of food for us!


I highly believe and know for a good reason Gods and Jesus will for COMPASSION is much higher then sacrificing any kind of living on that planet!
The problem with you humans is, you believe more in your Religions then in your GOD !
Compassion is the key for real PEACE.
So go and sacrifice your EGO if you want to get you answers!

Bless you guys stay healthy and care for others! Thank you alot !❤🌍🌞


So many bugs get killed for those impossible burgers, “im vegan to save the animals”


JiDion didn’t really let him talk, he kept interrupting him


Dude this vegan trying to create another sentient life😂


0:09 emo boy looks like he cant grab a pound of beef off the shelf


That guy knew his stuff and he had good points in the arguments….but

Jidion knew more

@Sarbjot Singh  We can also eat meat. Welcome to the  “non-vegan” community.

@Jorge Antonio Vargas we can eat plants. Welcome to the vegan community

@Nikita Snow it's just fun the debate sometimes. I just bored and couldn't fall asleep

Damm a lot of vegans in here. I was just joking btw

@Sarbjot Singh  I was replying to original comment not you

@MidoriBear well no, some animals die naturally.

I think the animals deserve the freedom to live their lives out however they can.

I don't think it's good that we forcefully breed them.  Genetically modify their body to produce more milk, eggs, meat. And treat then horribly. And put them under extreme stress and pain just for a quick burger. When none of it  is necessary.

@Sarbjot Singh if you are a vegan, how does it stop animals from dying, they just die and someone else eats them

@TVideoupload I just said he's logically more sound because he talked about victims. You can do whatever you want but when there are innocent victims than you are in the wrong

About what ? Hate to say it but nothing he said was logically more sound- and also the video was edited

The vegan made it very clear. Believing in a religon isn't hurting anyone (most of the time). Not being vegan is causing death to animals that don't need to die because we can simply eat plants to survive. Sure Jidion knew more, but none of it justified killing animals for no good reason at all.


i've already seen the hour long live but imma watch it again to support my boy jidion🔥🔥


The thing is most farms wait till the animal is old


Bro he kept saying the “shot in the head and their throats slite” like chill


“I’m not gonna lie, if I had more time I would have brought a pig or a cow up here.” 5:05 😂😂😂


Oh yeah cows are very human like. Pigs are SUPER human like. He obviously talks to a lot of people.


I feel like some vegans forget that plants are also living things 😆

Plants aren’t sentient, they don’t suffer and feel pain like animals do.


This guy said, feminist restaurant? wtf 😂😂


Me enjoying my bacon , egg , and ham breakfast watchin thi


I’m new here and you just immediately make my day bro😂😂


Damn he really used the nelk song lmaoo I knew it sounded familiar


Anyone else peep the “am I gay” ad on his phone before the interview 🤣🤣🤣


first JiDion video I've watched and  I can safely say Imma binge this guys channel for the rest of the night lmao

WARNING ⚠ JESUS COMMANDS YOU TO REPENT OR PERISH!!!! YOUR SOUL IS ON THE LINE!!!!


WARNING ⚠ JESUS COMMANDS YOU TO REPENT OR PERISH!!! YOUR SOUL IS ON THE LINE!!!

@HKROW slight criticism from just seeing the thumbnails they look like cringe 3 am videos or something like that

Here's the truth about death: https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/media/e/17275/t/truth-about-death

The Sabbath:
Sabbathtruth.com

Here is the truth about revelation:
https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/watch/archives/o/1194/t/prophecy-encounter

My videos are similar style to Jidion, I’m a New Youtuber and tryna hit my dream of 5k 🔥


how tf is the vid age restricted. youtube soft


I've watched and liked the vegan trolling video but the vegan guy is right about everything as even myself I started a few months ago some type of flexi-vegan diet ( introducing more vegan products into my diet but still eating meat sometimes) as I can't pretend to be an animal lover and be ok with the way they're being treated. They can't speak but they're so intelligent and therefore it's not ok. No one would be ok to have their cat or dog slaughtered for meat but because it's a pig( pigs are smarter than dogs) it's suddenly ok?

Yeh I try my hardest not to eat pig. Cow too. Those two are the worst for your body as well, we can’t process them the same & they have a LOT of the unhealthy fats. They’re also bad on your brain if you eat too much of it.

you should check out earthling ed's channel


He repeats that the animal was killed constantly yes i know thats how it works


“These animals have been shot in the head and cut in the throat” Ok well lions eat other animals while there alive but no one gets mad at them. Humans have to eat too.


David did make a way more rational argument but this was still funny and bro, keep it up


love how he started bringing up the religions lmao


Who else been a fan of JiDion since 2019

@Anonymous Yes if you havent been following JiDion since 2019 you better REPENT! Otherwise PERISH! Your soul is on the line!

@RL Amateur FX i was talking to HKROW cuz i see him on every single JiDion video.

Stop self promo and go build your channel yourself. I’m sure your videos are great but no one likes someone that self promos and leeches for clout. Elevate.

My videos are similar style to Jidion, I’m a New Youtuber and tryna hit my dream of 5k 🔥🔥


why at the start did he say he killed and slaughtered an animal for a yt vid when he clearly never whether he bought it or not


@Krwiomocz.Bogurodzicy Ⓥ we educate 😤we all know rawdogging comes at a cost

@ROLLIE TRACKS🚨,<br>Don't kink-shame, you prude.

@ROLLIE TRACKS🚨,
Don't kink-shame, you prude.

@Krwiomocz.Bogurodzicy Ⓥ cock and ball torture is one

@Anonymous,<br>You can tell God I disdain to worship Him.

@Anonymous,
You can tell God I disdain to worship Him.

WARNING ⚠ JESUS COMMANDS YOU TO REPENT OR PERISH!!!! YOUR SOUL IS ON THE LINE!!!!

Can you name anything you think unjustifiably harms others while being liked by those who do it?

Do you think getting pleasure alone is enough justification for an action?

Even some plants like to eat meat, hello Venus

My videos are similar style to Jidion, I’m a New Youtuber and tryna hit my dream of 5k 🔥


Video idea: Go to a vegan restaurant decked out in fur and leather. I think it would be extra funny if you insist that you are a "hardcore vegan."

@Radiocorrective Why u being so sensitive

Thats like going to an organization that stands for human rights decked in human skin leather and human hair coats.<br>What you suggest is mad creepy and a shitty thing to do. Violence against innocent sentient beings is fucked up and wearing the products of it like a trophy is worse.

Thats like going to an organization that stands for human rights decked in human skin leather and human hair coats.
What you suggest is mad creepy and a shitty thing to do. Violence against innocent sentient beings is fucked up and wearing the products of it like a trophy is worse.


Act homeless and when they say they don’t got cash, pull out a card reader<br>it be hilarious

Act homeless and when they say they don’t got cash, pull out a card reader
it be hilarious


tell him billions of bees die coz of cucumbers


Damn I have been following Jidion for over 6 months and absolutely love his videos BUT the whole “lol bacon” eating meat infront of vegan type jokes are sooooo stale and low hanging fruit, it’s not comedy gold it’s just super immature and literally every vegan ever has already heard it.  People are standing up for what they know is right and reducing animal suffering (while also helping the environment and health) and there’s not a single valid argument against veganism. It’s not a matter of what one person believes vs another, such as religion- it’s all 100% scientifically proven to be the best way of life, and I recommend anyone who thinks otherwise to do some research and watch some videos on YouTube on the subject to get more educated/inspired.

@Heated Up Mikey Lee We also need meat to stay alive bruh, and y'all be acting like they don't suffer as much when they're out there in the wild not being eaten by humans. If we don't eat them then trust and believe that some other predator is gonna eat them.

@shoobadoo123  watch dominion, you will see how animals truly live. You have been lied to, it’s nothing like the happy cows you see in advertisements, or on your uncles farm.  There’s nothing natural about factory farms which is where 99% of the population gets it animal products.  Hunting cannot be done by this large a human population so we need to move onto eating plants as a whole.

@Jay they need meat to stay alive bruh; t's not even possible for them to live on plants.. a bit different than humans

Y'all stay mad at us for eating animals but what about other predators like lions, cheetahs, alligators, eagles, snakes and the many other apex predators that hunt animals every second? what you finna do, try to talk them into not killing and eating animals?

@shoobadoo123 couldnt watch this video, id probably find it funny if I was 12 again

exactly what i thought.. the mental age on this platform is just sinking day by day, i honestly cringed my ass off while watching both videos

the animals get a quick death. It’s not abuse. Also, people were made to eat meat. We’re omnivores. Nature WANTS us to eat meat.


“most people don’t want to do that but the ones that do have ptsd…. blah blah” that’s utter bullshit, my dad worked in the abattoirs and he doesn’t in the slightest have ptsd, if anything he misses what he used to do.


4:24 he caught himself lol, he really wanted to say that he didn’t care about him😂

Nah I don't think so. "I care about an animals life more than I do taste pleasure" is a common vegan argument he's just paraphrasing


How was man’s jidion paying them to kill the animals bruh they was already dead when he bought them


I gutted a deer before, ruined my knife kink.


“how u feel about killing a person that isn’t human” bro isn’t that called a animal or some shit like that

@Joseph Molina as someone who eats meat I think humans =/= animals we have vast differences one being intelligence if you make the case humans = animals then it’s moral to eat meat because other animals do it. We don’t follow this logic because animals do a lot of things that are harmful to humans but non harmful to them such as eat their own  poo or incest.


Jidion: ya'll fckin crazy y'know?<br>Also Jidion: makes a distrack cuz of a mama joke

Jidion: ya'll fckin crazy y'know?
Also Jidion: makes a distrack cuz of a mama joke


1:51 Lmao I hate when I get those ads on YouTube 😭


@jidion God sacrificed his son so we didn’t have to sacrifice anything anymore.


Jidion I thought you had to slaughter a lamb before Jesus came back. In the Bible it says that before Jesus came back in order for your sins to be forgiven you have to sacrifice a lamb. We don't gotta do that shit no more😂😂

Ya I was lost cause god definitely put Jesus on that cross to wash our sins away😂

@Tony Roy Jesus didn’t die , God took him to heaven so he doesn’t suffer

CodeineCrazy No we no longer have to do that like Tony Roy said. Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross replaced animal sacrifices as atonement for sin.

@Adin Ross  no vid made the Old Testament and the New Testament for when Jesus Christ was on the planet

Yeah in the old testament people would slaughter lambs as a sacrifice for forgiveness. When Jesus died on the cross for us he died for our sins and our suffering. So now we don't need to slaughter lambs because we can just accept Jesus into our life.

@Adin Ross nah he’s right. Jesus is called the Lamb of God for this reason.

WARNING ⚠ JESUS COMMANDS YOU TO REPENT OR PERISH!!!! YOUR SOUL IS ON THE LINE!!!

@Adin Ross I just said I thought? Am I wrong? If I am how

Oh nice so you decided to change the Bible ? Good job !


I ain't vegan, but just saying that you don't need to sacrifice animals in Christianity. The ultimate sacrifice was Jesus Christ so we don't need to kill animals to be cleansed of our sins. Your vids are insane man keep it up! Love ya

Ngl if I saw you sacrificing lambs I would think your tryna summon some shit


jodion kinda slipped up on this one… i’m not vegan but his argument was terrible💀

@N Vieira and that’s why you don’t argue in the YouTube comment sections. People here genuinely amuse me sometimes.

Jahmal DIAZ-RIVERA Religion counts as his beliefs and where he achieves his values. I'll give you that he didn't articulate it very well but anyone with a brain can see his point. LOL

The main argument he was trying to get across was correct. Obviously it’s hard to articulate what you mean on the spot so he did slip up in some parts. The vegan guy was saying it’s morally wrong when he cannot justify morality himself as there is no way to prove morality without a god. Jidion’s argument holds true as there is no way prove his viewpoint as morally wrong if you have don’t have a standardized set of morals across all of humanity.

Hes talkin about beliefs. His argument was valid.


It’s okay JiDion he doesn’t even know how to pronounce words right!


We shouldn't have to explain why unnecessary violence is wrong.  Watch the documentary Dominion go vegan for the animals

I can really go for a nice raw red meats sashimi rite now. 😎😎😎

So is the death caused by pesticides and crop protection neccessary?


just remember that god put animals on this earth for us to be able to eat.


I didn’t know jidion was Christian that’s awesome!


Eating meat is natural. Its a part of life, the cycle continues regardless. They do realize animals kill other animals for their meat right? We ain't nothing but mammals. Well some of us are canabals and cut other people open like cannalope. I want steak now.

@C So how big is the left-right divide in meat consumption?
New figures from a 2018 Gallup poll provide excellent estimates of vegetarianism and veganism in the U.S. Overall, 5 percent of Americans consider themselves vegetarian (i.e., do not eat meat), with another 3 percent considering themselves vegan (i.e., do not eat any animal products, including meat, milk, eggs, etc).

The story gets all the more interesting when you look at ideological differences. Among liberals, 11 percent are vegetarian, but only 2 percent of conservatives are vegetarians. (see Figure below). This is a staggering difference, with liberals 5.5 times more likely to be vegetarian compared to conservatives. A similar difference is observed for vegans: liberals are 2.5 times more likely to be vegan than are conservatives (see Figure).
Obviously, political ideology is a very strong predictor of meat consumption.
This pattern has two important implications. First, our previous research (Hodson & Earle, 2018) shows that those on the political right are more likely to return to meat consumption because they report a lack of social support. Given that people associate with those similar to themselves (what we call “homophily”), liberals tend to hang out with liberals and conservatives tend to hang out with conservatives. As such, liberals truly will find more social support for the goal of avoiding meat consumption in their social circles.
In 1940, the Vegan Society was founded in the UK, and explicitly linked themselves with science and logic-based reasoning. Later thinkers like Peter Singer and Tom Regan made fully-secular arguments for veganism. In the current era, the movement is made up mostly of non-religious people, but it rarely chooses to highlight this aspect.

The author of this paper uses a recent survey of vegans from the US to examine the animal rights movement in the country. 287 respondents were counted, all of whom were vegans living in the United States. The majority of respondents were white and heterosexual, and the majority of those that reported their gender identified as female. 72% of male and female respondents identified themselves as being atheist or agnostic

Veganism is much more than what one chooses to eat or not eat, chooses not to wear, chooses to forego for entertainment and chooses to purchase in terms of cosmetics and household items. Veganism at its core is about justice. Veganism is a social justice movement that places an animal’s right to be left to his or her own devices as the center of justice.
As such, advocating for veganism is much bigger than convincing individuals to become vegan – not that this work isn’t deeply important. It’s about fighting against the industries that profit from the use of animals. It’s about fighting against the governments that protect the rights of those industries to use and abuse animals. Ultimately, it is about reaching a public that allows and perpetuates the abuse of animals, and educating them about speciesism.
Speciesism is the core belief in the inherent supremacy of humans. It is what justifies  the confinement, torture, and murder of billions of animals for food, clothing, entertainment and research. The idea that human beings are the center of the universe and that animals are a sub-species is unethical. History has shown us what happens when one race or country, for example, sees themselves as superior. Genocide happens.
What has been happening since human beings began to breed, raise, and kill animals has been a continual genocide. This genocide has been going on for thousands of years without a pause. In fact it is increasing with human population growth and industrialization.
So veganism is a social justice issue that requires active efforts to eliminate speciesism. Justice and equality are not going to come to animals by manipulating people through health claims, environmental reports, personal spirituality, or other promises about how going vegan will help that individual. Justice is not about self-serving acts. Justice is about the greater good, in this case, the rights of animals.
When someone makes a dietary choice for their own self interest, animals lose. How do animals lose? Diets and health choices change like the direction of the wind. I am avoiding gluten for dietary reasons. If I get tempted, or have a glass or two of wine, I may cheat on my dietary choice and eat some gluten. But no matter how much wine I drink, I will not cheat on veganism. Why? Because veganism is an ethical choice that is outside of my personal interests. I am vegan for animals. https://thethinkingvegan.com/veganism-is-a-social-justice-movement/

So yes,  veganism is inherently associated with  the left wing social justice movement.

The majority of vegans and vegetarians are not religious. But, why are so many vegans atheist?  There hasn’t been a definitive study on the reasons for this, but many argue that atheists are guided by their own moral compass, rather than one laid out by religious scriptures. Because of this, some conclude that it is unethical to use animals, and therefore follow a vegan lifestyle.

As for postmodernism, postmodernist believe that there is no objective reality, and to be a postmodernist you have to be an atheist.

To conclude, when he said “atheist postmodern vegan SJW’s” he wasnt using buzzwords, he was using the proper definition of the terms he was using, not once did he change the terms. It is easy to conclude that a postmodernist is an atheist along with an SJW along with a vegan. In fact they are happy to proclaim they are all these things.

As for him insulting your “common sense”, you did that yourself. Not once did he call out your ability to use common sense, he said anyone with some common sense knows he used the terms properly. So before being so quick to calm him out for using buzzwords, next time research the terms he is using.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/religious-family/atheist/party-affiliation/

Y’all had a whole essay debate on some one saying vegans are sjws in some paragraph like cmon this is the Jidion channels let’s not be so serious if someone replies to this thing with a paragraph lol

@M C made in a lab exactly what I want to eat. Something that was made in a lab lol. Source my meat from farmers who have old cattle that they’ve got to put down via shooting them. About as ethical as it gets. What a lot of vegans tend to forget is we play a huge impact into the eco-system. We stop killing animals and they start to overpopulate. In the state I live in we have all year round coyote hunting season right now due to the fact that they’re overpopulated and are killing off majority of the deer population here. We are never gonna get to a point where we aren’t gonna have to step in and do population control on a certain set of animals because we’d literally allow them to extinct themselves.

Nobody understood yo Slim Shady reference near the end 😭💀

Nobody understood yo Slim Shady reference near the end 😭💀

@los_reyes when the leftists take over and we lose our freedoms, this guy will realize how right you are.

@los_reyes when the leftists take over and we lose our freedoms, this guy will realize how right you are.

@lolz I read your entire comment and what I find wrong about it is the equlaivences you draw between different ideologies and groups I.e Vegans and Athiest so you can establish the link. Being a vegan doesn’t inherently mean your a atheist in fact I would actually ask you if you had any evidence or statistic that show there is a direct correlation between the two. On that note with your reasoning your making it seem as if vegans are athiest because they are vegans rather than “most vegans are athiest” which there is a difference. That is what I find wrong with your linking of the different groups and ideologies if I’m not mistaken your doing this because all can be under the umbrella of “postmodernism”  (correct me if I’m wrong on that).

What your essentially saying is Sjw are vegans, vegans are postmodernist, postmodernist are atheist. If you provided statistics to prove this then this would be a entirely different conversation( about the linking of these terms, not about if they are buzzwords or not).

Also I’m not calling “Athiest postmodernist sjw woke mob” a buzzword, I’m saying it’s composed of buzzwords.

As for your text surrounding his insults.
You say he didn’t insult my common sense yet he very clearly stated I lack common sense so how exactly does that work? I hate how you rationalize his insults yet irrationalize mine because they are more brazen. Just because he says I’m doing something rather than I am something doesn’t mean it’s not a clear insult.

You also address potential biases I have, which I’m curious on how considering you said you have friends that are vegan and that are atheist which could possibly conflict with how you formed your conclusion. Also what conclusion was I forming by saying it was a buzzword?? The conclusion was that it’s a buzzword, I didn’t form a conclusion around that because that was the conclusion. That was what the original argument derived into.

@lolz  To quote him “Social justice warrior refers to members of the social justice movement who see themselves as brave and noble crusaders but really don’t accomplish any good and usually do the opposite. Most are keyboard warriors, doing nothing but virtue signaling on social media” shall I go on and finish the rest.

Are you honestly telling me that’s the definition of what an sjw is?

Also if “athiest postmodernist sjw woke mob” could all or at least mostly be simplified into a single group then why didn’t he do that??

@C Hes not changing the definitions at all. He got the definition of SJW pretty spot on. It seems your a little biased in your reasoning. Just research the definition of the terms, he got the terms correct. He’s not using them as buzzwords. It just seems like you’re the only one viewing it as a buzzword and reaching your own conclusions.

@AizakkuZ there are unethical ways yes, killing someone by cutting them a thousand times and letting them bleed out would be unethical as compared then painlessly killing them

@AizakkuZ there are unethical ways yes, killing someone by cutting them a thousand times and letting them bleed out would be unethical as compared then painlessly killing them

@lolz I’ll be respond to your comment in full but how can you sit here and say he’s not using them as buzzwords and that he’s not changing the definition of the terms? Read the comments he’s made, specifically the one where he was explain what the term “SJW” refers, it’s the one with the large 2nd body of text. Also your friends are indicative of a whole group of people

@C u spend way too much time on Youtube clearly

@C u spend way too much time on Youtube clearly

@C He’s not using them as a buzzword, and he’s not changing the definition of the words he’s using. I have many friends who are SJW’s and they classify themselves as atheist and postmodernist and vegan, veganism as a phenomenon has accelerated its growth as a movement with tangible changes in society, on our high streets and in our shops. As equally has a palpable political alignment to the left come with it, likely due to a supposed common alliance in their liberal stances and egalitarian core.

Since its roots in the French Revolution, the left has stood for equality, class struggle and the protection of people from abuses of power. In contradiction to this, typical notions of conservatism bring to the fore thoughts of injustices within capitalist society: vested interest, multinational corporations, financial empires, and powerful lobbying groups such as the meat and dairy industries. This alignment with the left thus resonates with vegans’ disapproval of exploitative practices, the treatment of animals as mere commodities, their killing for monetary gain, wrapped up in the theory of speciesism. Furthermore, parties of the left have historically aligned themselves with more progressive and liberal movements such as the waves of feminism. This has led to a particular demographic picture within such parties, who challenge contemporary norms in the hope for a better world. In a 2018 US study, 52% of vegans identified as a liberal. Three-quarters of UK animal rights members are women. Rooted in social injustice, veganism questions common perceptions on ‘how it has always been’ in the food, drink, cosmetics and fashion industries.

On to postmodernism, postmodernist believe there is no objective reality, and that whites, blacks, Asians, etc have their own truth and that truth is subjective, this forms the Social Justice Warrior, the social Justice Warrior has a postmodernist view of the world and believe there is no objective reality, so they make statements such as that there is more than 2 genders and that it’s a social construct, when an individual disagrees with this statement the response of the postmodernist SJW is to attack the person since it is invading the SJW’s own “truth”.

Postmodernist are almost certain to be atheist since there is no objective reality to the world and believing that there is no higher being and that the universe was a random explosion makes believing in a subjective truth much more reasonable.

As you can see The statement “postmodernist SJW atheist” makes sense, lots of sense, and you are so quick to call this a “buzzword” but it isn’t, he’s actually using the correct definition for each on these terms and not deriving from the true definition.

He didn’t insult your common sense, rather he was showing how simple the terms he used are to understand with proper research.

@Kyojuro Bakugo im not trying to sound “smart” and or “intellectually superior” and yes I am repetitive because im repeating the same thing over and over, In fact I’m pretty certain I even Said I was repeating myself.

The topic was never about veganism “being ethical”, it was about how “atheist postmodernist sjw woke mob” was the creation of veganism, sjw mobs etc. But please do show when it was.

@M C unethical treatment? Is there an ethical way of kikling something?

@M C unethical treatment? Is there an ethical way of kikling something?

@C For a guy who thinks hes smart you sound awfully repetitive and not intellectually supererior as your trying to be legit you look like a kid who's saying "remember that toy you took from me." when both kids are fighting about a nintendo switch like shut up.

Also the topic was whether or not veganism is ethical and whether the subject makes sense on the opposing side your fighting about buzzwords when you literally said "can we get back to the topic" my guy your just as repetitive as him you need a break from the internet no one cares.

@lolz     You don’t see how he’s using them as a buzzword? He started off by saying “Atheist postmodernist SJW woke mob”. Upon that his definition given of said terms where completely inaccurate and convoluted with his opinions. Also there’s no evidence to support the typical vegan being a “sjw” and is an atheist. Your forming that connection. Also he said I lack proper reading skills and “how do you not have common sense” multiple times yet when I insult him it’s a problem? I have attacked the base of his argument but then he completely went off topic about whether it is or isn’t a buzzword. I then reiterate the literary definition and qualification of a buzzword yet he still attempted to debunk it with points in which main consists of “it can’t be a buzzword, it’s already a word” (not a direct quote).

So yes I joke about his brain capability and I don’t really regret it. He’s made jabs at me so I made jabs at him, which is funny considering he commented about me attacking his “brain” even though he did the exact same.

Thats the best rebuttle I have ever heard regarding veganism 1,000 IQ

Thats the best rebuttle I have ever heard regarding veganism 1,000 IQ

@C I think you’re going too far with this, I don’t see how using a buzzword is bad and weakens his argument, but secondly I don’t even think centrist is using these terms as a buzzword. I mean it is true that the typical vegan is somewhat a social Justice Warrior and atheist and has a postmodernist view of the world. And calling him small brain doesn’t make you look better.

@Trash did you need lyrics fam.? I can do biggies first two verse like cake work

@Trash did you need lyrics fam.? I can do biggies first two verse like cake work

We ain't nothin' but mammals, well, some of us, cannibals
Who cut other people open like cantaloupes
But if we can hump dead animals and antelopes
Then there's no reason that a man and another man can't elope

@freemit “those are actual terms that exist” yeah no shit. That still doesn’t mean it’s not a buzzword. Buzzwords aren’t created words. They are words and or terms that are fashionable at the time. Which is clearly stated in the definition I’ve given twice.

I’m getting “salty” because he’s wrong, your inability to see that doesn’t make you smarter.. just so you know. It’s actually appalling that you think the person that created their own definition for established terms is correct but I digress. I’m not your teacher.

“Postemodernist atheist sjw woke mod” is the equivalent of me saying “gamer BLM Christian mob” both are composed of words in which have no link to each other. Just because you believe it’s right doesn’t make it correct.

@freemit No shit, that still doesn’t mean it’s not a buzzword. Also he didn’t even give a proper definition, he created ones in which cooperate with his argument. But go along and run with that though.

“the postmodernist SJW WOKE mob” isn’t proper terminology either…. Just so you know.

You don’t even know what a buzzword is yet your trying to correct me?

@freemit Exactly man. He’s one of those stuck up people.

@freemit Exactly man. He’s one of those stuck up people.

@los_reyes bro stop being stupid jus cus ur a vegan doesent make u a SJW feminist.im vegan and i don’t associate with any of that. Have ur own thoughts and opinions dint just box urself in because of others perceptions of what a ‘vegan’ might be.

@los_reyes he’ll probably say that the Black Lives Matter Community is a buzzword aswell lmfao

@los_reyes he’ll probably say that the Black Lives Matter Community is a buzzword aswell lmfao

@los_reyes Stop arguing with this guy dude, he literally trying to sound like a smartass by calling those names “buzzwords” when those are actual terms that exist

@los_reyes Stop arguing with this guy dude, he literally trying to sound like a smartass by calling those names “buzzwords” when those are actual terms that exist

@C lol, you’re getting salty at him for stating actual terminology in groups that actually exist.

@C lol, you’re getting salty at him for stating actual terminology in groups that actually exist.

@C I’m not using any of these words as buzzwords, I’m using their real definition the real definition is still pretty obvious despite the word’s overuse.

Social Justice Warrior refers to members of the Social Justice movement who see themselves as brave and noble crusaders, but really don't accomplish any good and usually do the opposite. Most are keyboard warriors, doing nothing but virtue signaling on social media. If they're feeling particularly energetic, they might go scream at people and pull a fire alarm to shut down a debate or opposing viewpoints while chanting mindless slogans like zombies. This is where the real harm comes from. Because they actually do shut down all other viewpoints than their own when given the chance and they never debate or expose themselves to any views outside of their own “safe space” bubble.

@C It is your perception that they are buzzwords, but in reality these aren’t buzzwords these are common real terms for people, such as Atheist, Vegan, SJW, and Postmodernist. And like a typical Social Justice Warrior you insult my brain. Lol. Well it was fun shelb.

@los_reyes right so kindly stop sounding like an anchor for them

@los_reyes right so kindly stop sounding like an anchor for them

@los_reyes Just check the analytics. I’m done arguing with someone that has the brain capability of a beetle.

I honestly feel as if I’m explaining the bounds of morality to a child.

@los_reyes Just check the analytics. I’m done arguing with someone that has the brain capability of a beetle.

I honestly feel as if I’m explaining the bounds of morality to a child.

@C Postmodernist, Vegan, Atheist, Social Justice Warrior don’t fit the definition.

@C Postmodernist, Vegan, Atheist, Social Justice Warrior don’t fit the definition.

@M C Fox News is a new site for brainwashed conservatives, basically a right wing CNN.

@M C Fox News is a new site for brainwashed conservatives, basically a right wing CNN.

@los_reyes It doesn’t have to be difficult to understand for it to be a buzzword. Jesus are you 12?

@los_reyes It doesn’t have to be difficult to understand for it to be a buzzword. Jesus are you 12?

@C The words I’m saying don’t fit the definition.

@C The words I’m saying don’t fit the definition.

@los_reyes Don’t believe me???

Check Google and pull up the analytics of the past usage of the words as of late.

@los_reyes Don’t believe me???

Check Google and pull up the analytics of the past usage of the words as of late.

@C But these aren’t words that are difficult for others to understand. Postmodernist, Athiest, Vegan, Social Justice Warrior, aren’t buzzwords

@C But these aren’t words that are difficult for others to understand. Postmodernist, Athiest, Vegan, Social Justice Warrior, aren’t buzzwords

@los_reyes oh my God are you a fox News anchor? Jesus christ chill out with the fucking buzzwords lmfao

@los_reyes oh my God are you a fox News anchor? Jesus christ chill out with the fucking buzzwords lmfao

@los_reyes Once again

Buzzword: word or phrase, often an item of jargon, that is fashionable at a particular time or in a particular context.

In case you don’t know what [Jargon] means: special words or expressions that are used by a particular profession or group and are difficult for others to understand.

It doesn’t matter how long it’s been around, it doesn’t have to be new for it to be a buzzword, the qualification for it is it being “fashionable” which they are.

@los_reyes Once again

*Buzzword:* word or phrase, often an item of jargon, that is fashionable at a particular time or in a particular context.

In case you don’t know what *[Jargon]* means: special words or expressions that are used by a particular profession or group and are difficult for others to understand.

It doesn’t matter how long it’s been around, it doesn’t have to be new for it to be a buzzword, the qualification for it is it being “fashionable” which they are.

@C these terms have been around forever, atheist isn’t a buzzword, neither is postmodernist, or social justice warrior, or vegan. Lol

@C these terms have been around forever, atheist isn’t a buzzword, neither is postmodernist, or social justice warrior, or vegan. Lol

@los_reyes Being a buzzword doesn’t change the meaning. Also YOU just explained how it’s a buzzword “everyone with some common sense know what — means”. They are fashionable words used as a generalization of a group of individuals.

@UCi6uyJZmwouLWAV6v2RefNw A basic term that everyone with some common sense know what postmodernism, SJW, woke, vegan, and atheist mean. Seriously, there’s no buzzword.

@UCi6uyJZmwouLWAV6v2RefNw A basic term that everyone with some common sense know what postmodernism, SJW, woke, vegan, and atheist mean. Seriously, there’s no buzzword.

@los_reyes “Basic terms for people” have the capacity to be buzzwords and in this particular instance they are, it’s not one or the other.

@los_reyes “Basic terms for people” have the capacity to be buzzwords and in this particular instance they are, it’s not one or the other.

@los_reyes  OF COURSE it doesn’t describe what your doing, I never said that. I said you were combining buzzwords. Which you were, because they are in fact buzzwords. The definition doesn’t describe what your doing because that was never the purpose of it. The purpose of it to show you that those words in which you used ARE in fact buzzwords.

“The definition does describe what I’m doing though” that’s because it was never intended to. I’ve never meet someone as clueless as you before.

@C The definition doesn’t describe what I’m doing, but you yourself said that I’m using buzzwords, so therefore what I’m doing is using buzzwords, so saying doing is perfectly reasonable.

@C But these aren’t buzzwords. As I’ve stated, these are basic terms for people.

@C But these aren’t buzzwords. As I’ve stated, these are basic terms for people.

@los_reyes OF COURSE it doesn’t describe what your doing, I never said that. I said you were combining buzzwords. Which you were, because they are in fact buzzwords. The fuck are you even talking about? The definition doesn’t describe what your doing because that was never the purpose of it. The purpose of it to show you that those words in which you used ARE in fact buzzwords.

“The definition does describe what I’m doing though” that’s because it was never intended to. I’ve never meet someone as clueless as you before.

@C And I explained it way above you.  Please read the replies. It just seems like you’re continuing to make a fool out of yourself. Lol.

@C And I explained it way above you.  Please read the replies. It just seems like you’re continuing to make a fool out of yourself. Lol.

@C The definition doesn’t describe what I’m doing though, it’s just you not understanding words. Don’t make a fool out of yourself.

@C The definition doesn’t describe what I’m doing though, it’s just you not understanding words. Don’t make a fool out of yourself.

@los_reyes There actually was an argument as well, I asked to actually further explain you claim/argument about how that “woke postmodernism—“ led to veganism along with the other things you listed. Did you suddenly forget that?

@C These aren’t buzzwords though. They’re basic terms to describe people, and there is no hill to die on, I’m comfortable in my house.

@C These aren’t buzzwords though. They’re basic terms to describe people, and there is no hill to die on, I’m comfortable in my house.

@Josh Smith, humans were <b>technically</b> made to be herbivores iirc, but hey, humans did evolve into eating meat so its fair to say its natural

@Josh Smith, humans were *technically* made to be herbivores iirc, but hey, humans did evolve into eating meat so its fair to say its natural

@los_reyes “I’m not saying any buzzwords” is that really the hill you want to die on? Especially after I even provided the literary definition of a “Buzzword”

“These aren’t hypotheticals”

Followed by “I used to be a vegan” and “Walk up to any of these SJW’s” like seriously take a break from the internet.

@C There was never an argument, it was just you not having a decent vocabulary to understand basic words. Lol.

@C There was never an argument, it was just you not having a decent vocabulary to understand basic words. Lol.

@C These aren’t hypotheticals, these postmodern sjws are proud to announce that they’re vegan and woke.

@C These aren’t hypotheticals, these postmodern sjws are proud to announce that they’re vegan and woke.

@C I’m not saying any buzzwords, it’s literally what it is, the vegan postmodern woke SJW’s. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand.

@C I’m not saying any buzzwords, it’s literally what it is, the vegan postmodern woke SJW’s. I don’t know what’s so hard to understand.

@los_reyes Are you done with the anecdotes and hypotheticals? Can we get back to the argument now?

@los_reyes Are you done with the anecdotes and hypotheticals? Can we get back to the argument now?

@los_reyes It wasn’t a direct quote, it was a example of what your form of writing entails.

Buzzword: a word or phrase, often an item of jargon, that is fashionable at a particular time or in a particular context.”

@los_reyes It wasn’t a direct quote, it was a example of what your form of writing entails.

*Buzzword:* a word or phrase, often an item of jargon, that is fashionable at a particular time or in a particular context.”

@C heck I was once a vegan and supported woke culture, glad I walked out of that.

@C heck I was once a vegan and supported woke culture, glad I walked out of that.

@C Any SJW you walk up to will immediately tell you they are vegan and support woke culture, feminism, etc

@C Any SJW you walk up to will immediately tell you they are vegan and support woke culture, feminism, etc

@C I never said communist, and these aren’t buzzwords, anyone with a good vocabulary knows these aren’t buzzwords.

@C I never said communist, and these aren’t buzzwords, anyone with a good vocabulary knows these aren’t buzzwords.

@los_reyes Please do tell me, what is the link between the 4?

@los_reyes Please do tell me, what is the link between the 4?

@los_reyes Jesus STOP with the buzzwords and use actual words to articulate your argument. Saying “MARXISM SJW WOKE COMMUNIST” contributes to nothing.

Not only that but you just changed “veganism” to “neo-veganism” did you seriously think I wouldn’t notice?

@C Actually athiesm, postmodernism, sjws, and woke culture are directly linked together. Seriously, how did you not have the common sense to see the similarity?

@C Actually athiesm, postmodernism, sjws, and woke culture are directly linked together. Seriously, how did you not have the common sense to see the similarity?

@C The act of not eating meat does predate the postmodern neo Marxist and SJW’s. But neo-veganism has different motives, it has become an identity, a way to virtue signal, a way to show how righteous and kind you are. In fact I would say it is associated with leftism.

@los_reyes Veganism predates “the atheist postmodernism SJW woke mob” (whatever that fucking means) upon that they couldn’t have even created any of the things that you listed because it simply does not exist. Combining multiple buzzwords doesn’t make what your saying valid… you know that right?

Atheism is its own separate thing and directly related with religion

I’m not even sure if you even know what SJW and WOKE even means.

@C And what about what I said is ridiculous? It’s the truth.

@C And what about what I said is ridiculous? It’s the truth.

I don't think anybody has ever said eating meat isn't natural, obviously it is, but there is a difference between a lion hunting down a gazelle and eating it and the forcible impregnation, mistreatment and mass slaughtering that happens to the animals we eat, most vegans don't advocate to not eat any meat whatsoever for everybody. They'd just like for meat to be ethically sourced, also were getting pretty close to being able to recreate the flavor and texture of meat in a lab using plant based ingredients and if it ever gets mass produced there's really not much of an excuse to continue supporting the unethical treatment of the animals we eat, I'm not even a vegan, just trying to understand their perspective somewhat yknow?

@los_reyes What?? You just jumbled up a bunch of buzzwords as if it makes more sense now. Instead of just pointing out how ridiculous what your saying is, let me just ask do you have anything to substantiate your argument?

You can thank the Atheist Postmodernist Woke SJW movement. With this movement comes veganism, cancel culture, woke mobs, etc.

You can thank the Atheist Postmodernist Woke SJW movement. With this movement comes veganism, cancel culture, woke mobs, etc.


Jidion fr the most underrated YouTuber wtf

@FreeOrphans (I'm Him) he should have more

he will blow up one day dude is creative as fuck. his content is unmatched period


It’s crazy how fast his YouTube channel grew. I was subscribed sense 10,000 subs


This dude just said the same thing over and over jidion actually had something to say, that’s a W for jidion


Yo Jidion I caught you lacking you got a “Am I Gay” survey on your phone 😂😂 1:49


The problem is now everyone thinks vegans now are all like this when I’m reality that’s in true


The gool old dayz before he got banned on twitch


I love jidion even more when he said he believes in the bible ❤❤❤❤


Imagine being vegan 💀, steak 🥩 all day 🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩🥩🥛


Did anyone get a warning before watching this video ?


this guy is gonna be like mrbeast with all his subs rising so fast


He’s not wrong to be fair, as annoying as he is


The deers I hunt for don’t get shot in the head<br>….. bc I can’t hit one.

The deers I hunt for don’t get shot in the head
….. bc I can’t hit one.


They don’t want to hunt for animals because they get ptsd after.


I honestly am siding with the vegan guy here. He kept his cool and calm the whole time it honestly seemed like JiDion was just tryna over talk him the whole time.


The guy acting like veganism is only about saving animals it’s also just a diet to some people


“I’ll drop everything and go see Tyrone if I get 200k followers” Tyrone finna be watching over them numbers 😂😂😂


A bear mulls a deer alive... Watch a lion eat an Impala..


1:13 that Soulja Boy edit after what the dude said had me weak 😭😭


Bro the vegan won Calling Jhidion Nas x to Dababy 😭😭😭 STRAIGHT DRAG


Some people say be a carnivore some say be a vegan forgetting humans are omnivores we need both meat and veggies and killing other living things is just nature


na i ain’t gon jidion was changing the subject everytime bro talked


Shoulda brought up the fact of carnivorous animals


The dudes acting like the people killing the animals be terrorizing the animals


I like how he just has a clip of hi hugging a grandma at walmart


Didnt know You believe in the bible God Bless Man


I’m pretty sure we aren’t slitting animals throats.


Don't plants have life... watched 1:10 and was like yo plants have life. Next it's gonna be don't water have life too.
Bruh society is to sensitive.
Good video jidion!
That nigga is a haren


My rebuttal would be one word “Omnivores” humans aren’t herbivores


At 0:57 when the guy starts talking. The animal is already dead it’s not like jidion is personally choosing the animals to be killed. And when the animals die it is very quick and the animal dies immediately


prank was a <b>W</b> faze rug and savage sean would be proud 👽

prank was a *W* faze rug and savage sean would be proud 👽


After watching this video this makes me hungry for meat 🥩 yummy


ouuu it was getting HEATEDDD near the middle of the video 😭😭


Bruh this vegan dude got my mind going round in circles


This got a trigger warning from YouTube on it? Okayy….


Besides the fact that JiDion acts childish sometimes he said so many FACTS in this video

Like what? There’s no valid argument against veganism lol


The animals don't even feel it, a cow becoming my burger is the most purpose it would have ever served. It's either that or it get killed in the wild. It's one or the othet


the amount of times the guy said "They get shot in the head and have there throat slit" is unbearable

@BlazeOnLimez yikes guys, your head is in the sand because they absolutely do do that, watch dominion on YouTube and have your minds blown and hearts shattered.

@Ends Jacks mhm ik. They dont kill food animals like that. But i will admit, the way they kill pigs is messed up

Fr like I don’t work for rhat but I’m pretty sure they don’t do that for food. Unless it’s to end the pain but still that guys obsessed with that sentence


You could have let him speak more and listened a bit more. You kept interrupting him


I raised and sold pigs for 9 years in 4H/FFA. Their death is more smooth than most hospice patients.

@Cameron MacDonald you need a steak bro.

So because some people get treated like shit we should torture animals? That's the most flawed logic I've ever heard. The best solution is to clearly just help dying people have better , more humane deaths. Not keep torturing animals because some humans are in pain when they die.

Exactly most people who have cancer gets treated like shit literally wacthing people die and just be like next


Turned a hater to a fan im not surprised


I don’t know about you but I’m eating chicken right now


It’s not like we can put the meat back to the animals 😂

@Sarbjot Singh literally they’re both living and you kill both for food accept it, either way you’re killing a living biotic factor my man

@Sarbjot Singh there’re studies that say they feel touches and yes don’t feel pain but there are some animals that don’t feel pain so yea

@Sarbjot Singh bro animal abuse is wrong unless you’re punishing but farm animals and slaughtered for food is right

@HimSteven My man. Show me a biology/phycology or any textbook that talks about the feelings of plants.

You guys will go to any stretch to defend animals abuse.

Plants with feelings? Okay buddy lol.

@HimSteven Plants do not experience pain and suffering. They dont have wants and desires. They don't care for their families.

What if I used the same logic on a innocent puppy?. They are just biotic matter? I have a reason to kill them because they are tasty.

I am saying the reason we kill them is not a good reason to kill them. We only eat them because they taste good, not because we need the nutrients. We can get all the nutrients from plants. Thousands of studies have already shown this.

Causing uneccessay pain and death to animals is animal abuse.

@Sarbjot Singh also you only kill animals cause you can read their faces and know what they’re saying a little and more but then you kill plants because you don’t know how they’re feeling and nor do you know what they’re saying

@Sarbjot Singh how am I being a hypocrite? All I’m saying is that vegan kill plants and not let them live and they are all biotic factor so why can’t I Cant another biotic factor??? And I’ll kill any thing alive even a human but I don’t want to go to jail so yea THERES A REASON WE HAVE ANIMAL ABUSE ( we kill the animals for a reason like you kill the plants for a reason ) we don’t abuse animals

@HimSteven Animals can suffer, feel pain, and experience reality. They have a conciousness.

You are not willing to rob the life of an innocent dog that wants to live, but you would do it to many other animals.

Stop being a hypocrit

WARNING ⚠ JESUS COMMANDS YOU TO REPENT OR PERISH!!! YOUR SOUL IS ON THE LINE!!!

@Sarbjot Singh well stop killing innocent plants that are biotic factors like us animals to then

@Sarbjot Singh yeah but u know that would never happen, the animals would be happy, but that would take a big blow on the economy.  America would take time to recover. Companies would shut down, and thousands if not millions of people would lose their job. And dont say it would be a gradual change, one simply connot turn a company into a completely opposite thing. It would be very difficult and inconvenient for a company made off of the commercial farming of animals, or animal meats to turn into a vegan company

Not to mention poorer countries in africa and south America could implode. If what u say is true and supply in demand of crops decreases as people become Vegan, labor workers would lose their jobs, and in a lot of poor countries that makes up a big chunk of employment

@lil nug sometimes certain comparisons are nesseccary to show flawed logic. What excused did slave owners use? They were all selfish and motivated by profit and made all sorts of excuses to oppress slaves.  Meat eaters use all sorts of excuses to oppress animals when they don't need to. It's cruel to cause harm and death when it can easily be avoided.

Of course we will not let all the animals loose. Just stop forcefully breeding and growing them. You think the world naturally has over 20 billion livestock animals?

Just let them live out their lives in closed of areas. Their populations will natural decline significantly, especially with the profit motive gone.

@lil nug it takes more crops to feed over 20 billion livestock animals that it would if everyone became vegan.

The overall crop demand would decrease....

@Sarbjot Singh also I saw. good point a guy made on this comment section. Saying that being vegan isnt amazing either, higher demand for plants and crops forces workers in third world countries to take up more space, slashing and burning, essentially killing animals, and their homes, which is ironic if u think about it

@Sarbjot Singh ik you didnt just compare animals with slavery🤦🏽♂. Even at a "graduale shift" they can still become an invasive species and wipe out other animals in the area. Especially animals like pigs, they would spread fast  and that wouldnt benifits the wildlife.

I agree force breeding is messed up. That is how americ is, all about corporations, and needing more and more to make money. The systems messed up, but at the end of the day it's a dog eat dog world

@lil nug It's gonna be a gradual shift. It would be ridicoulous to release them all.

How about just let them live out their lives and not forcefully breeding them into existence like cows that are raped.

You think we have over 20 billion livestock animals naturally? You don't have to worry. If we don't force them to breed and grow they will dwindle down real fast.

How about if we used that logic with slavery? We can't free them because ......

You are saying we should't stop immoral act because it would be very hard to stop. Well then we should do the really hard thing and stop.

@Equzia you can eat plants. Problem solved. Welcome to the vegan movement.

@Sarbjot Singh the good reason is us eating them

@Sarbjot Singh and what? Realease them to the wild so that other animals can eat them. Or that they become an invasive species making it harder for wild animals living in that area. I agree that what we do to animals is cruel, but there are consequences if we just freed them

yea, but we can stop supporting the industries that kill the innocent animals for no good reasons


I thought you were going to say Quran says slavery is alright i was like what then realized you meant something else


i dont believe shit hmu yall both cool ppl <br>'

i dont believe shit hmu yall both cool ppl
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Jidion was just having a little trouble putting his argument into words and so was the other guy honestly, but fr like this guy can't say like oh he bought this meat meaning he basically shot a cow in the head like no it doesn't work like that like I bought this 2 dollar ground beef because it's cheap I'm broke and it shmak when I put some garlic salt with that bish, if you want me to be vegan make the impossible meat cheaper than actual beef so I can afford it, I'm not shooting a cow in the head I'm just tryna get some food in my stomach and my familys like cmon bro I eat veggies but I also need something cheap like even chicken cheap asf and we all ain't got money to be buying the healthy ahit because that shit over priced sometimes like the organic shit


Funny how if we dont eat that pig or cow something else will in a more cruel wasteful way. Lol


I def think the vegan guy had a better point.


The amount of times he said “slit their throat”. 💀


Throws out hypothetical -

“I don’t know, because it doesn’t exist.”
Nailed it.

That's y it's a hypothetical. If u belief were legit he would answer it. He didn't have an answer so he deflected it


"Who's to say which morality is wrong?"<br>Omg that's so stupid. And it contradicts itself.

"Who's to say which morality is wrong?"
Omg that's so stupid. And it contradicts itself.

He says we should be tolerant of other people's choices because there is no objective good or bad. But that's implying that tolerance is an objectively good thing... So it's a contradiction.

@Borox Do you think that's racist to say? Why do you care about racism? After all, who's to say what's right or wrong?

@S.Sampson click on their profile you can see their other comment lma

@sweetness583 no point in arguing with somebody that said “why are black people so generic” u freak


A lot of animals die from the farmers protecting their beans


If God says I can eat animals imma eat it. Plus animals would simply over populate if we didn’t.


the cooking meat in vegan restaraunts was a lil bit toooo outta pocket which is strange to say as im watching jidion


Bros capping no butcher be getting ptsd from that shit


I don’t see “animals are being killed” as a good reason for being Vegan. Carnivorous animals including humans hunt and kill for food in nature. I do see the moral standpoint when it comes to conditions they may be raised in

Same, I'm vegan, but I do it cause it's healthier. Many pro athletes are vegan.


god made deez animals for a reason , He Controls it , and he  never says u cant eat it (except some)


if animals are friends not food then why are they made of food


An agnostic speaking about objective morality...


He kept talking specifically about "animals getting shot in the head and their throats slit" it's like 'aight we get it

@Sarbjot Singh where is this energy for the HUMAN atrocities that go on everyday lol. Like I understand it’s fucked up, but those animals are going to get killed regardless and people are still going to eat it..regardless. It’s sucks but it is what it is. It’s not my fight. I’d rather focus on the people actually losing their lives to sex trafficking or modern slavery. It’s def a problem, I get what you’re saying. Just bigger things in the world to worry about 🤷🏾♂

@sbright21 it's more than just wrong. Billions of livestock suffer everyday. It's cruelty at the largest scale. If those were dogs in the gas Chambers we would be up in arms. We just conditioned to be heartless so the meat industry can profit. It is completely uneccessary because we can be healthy on planets alone. You don't have to value animals as same as humans. Just value them more than your taste buds. That's all it is. We kill them because they taste good. For 5 minutes of pleasure on our tongue. Most selfish thing we do. We can not inconvenience ourselves to the slightest such that the animals can live live a life without being subjected to horrible conditions and pre mature death.

@Sarbjot Singh animal cruelty? Sure, it’s wrong. However, it’s not like we are killing the animals and just throwing them away (for the most part), people eat it so I don’t consider it “unnecessary”. All life is sacred to a certain extent but I don’t believe animals and humans are on the same level. We have dominion over them. I don’t like how they go about getting and slaughtering the animals but I also don’t care enough 🤷🏾♂ mix some greens with the meat and I figure I’ll be ok. Side note, I don’t chase happiness, friend. It’s a fleeting emotion that comes and goes no matter the circumstance. I chase peace and understanding. It’ll serve you much better in life.

@sbright21 I would assume you think that animal cruelty is wrong. When we see animals as products and not as life that should be allowed to live freely then we cannot avoid animal cruelty.

I would assume you think that uneccassary killing is cruel and bad, therefore against your morals.

If you do not hold these beliefs than that is unfortunatley and I would hope you reconsider your morals, it would lead to a happier world overall.

@Sarbjot Singh This is a false equivalence to the tee, my goodness. Humans and animals are not on the same level, we have dominion over them.  I also find it funny how you keep talking about “morals” when morals themselves are subjective?? There isn’t a set in stone moral code for all. What YOU might consider to be upholding your own morals, I may see as destroying my own.

Appearantly you don't get it or youd be vegan. Harming innocent beings needlessly is coward shit.

Please be respectful and take veganism seriously. It's hardly even a choice when people become vegan. It is a paradigm shift, a change in perspective. We realized we were wrong in our actions and we had a moral obligation to live a different way. I can't go back on that even if I wanted to. Are you against animal abuse? Then you're already vegan at heart. Align your actions with your ethics, the only thing you'll regret is not doing it sooner. ✌

@Danny Williams Pigs are smarter than dogs, yet we still kill pigs. So I don't think you believe what you are saying.

Have you heard of the name that trait argument? Essentially you cannot name a trait of some animal, that if a human had that trait then it would morally justify killing that human.

For example if a human had the intellegence of a fish would it morally justify killing that human for a quick meal, even though nobody really needed that meal to survive.

Most humans are argubally causing more harm to the planet than good, which can be considered a really dumb thing to do, therefore it's okay to kill them for a sandwitch?

@Danny Williams  it’s actually more because most of the time it doesn’t instantly kill the animal and they have to do it multiple times while the animal struggles

@Danny Williams " The purlose for the slaughter was to feed people". So if I raised a bunch of cats and dogs for slaughter than thats okay? That's kinda messed up man, I don't think anyone thinks like that.

There is enough protien in plants. Look at india. Look at all the vegan body builders that do not take protien shakes or supplements. Many that are probably way stronger than you.

@AML academy Yes that is true, bit that is not getting shot in the head as the guy was implying. It is a more effective way to kill them with less suffering.

@Sarbjot Singh Also, animals don't "do whatever they want" they have instincts to survive, they dont get bored everyday and have the emotions that we have.  Of course it is evident that they have some sort of emotion but it is not comparable to humans.  Animals don't have near the brain potential to act as humans do.

@Danny Williams not bullets they use devices that puncture the head of the animal

@Sarbjot Singh i believe that it is their purpose if they were slaughtered.  The purlose for the slaughter was to feed people.  And yea eating meat as of right now is neccessary.  Your bodies need protien and their isnt enough nuts to go around for everyone to have a healthy amount of protein in their bodies.

@AML academy No they don't, if a bullet was used for every slaughtered animal, farmers would waste alot of money, look it up, no firearms are used. And no slitting of throats either its just not effective and how is someone gonna slit an animals throat without getting hurt.  It isnt an instant death

@Danny Williams Why do you believe that animals purpose to give humans nutrition. What is the purpose of your life? I don't think you would say it is to be nutrition to other animals. I think the purpose of any animals life is to do whatever they want, just like you and me.

The thing is I'm assuming you are against animal abuse and uneccassary killing. You can not avoid animal cruelty if animals are seen as products and not has innocent lives. You have been given a morality, sense of judgement, and vegan alternatives (unlike animals). Yet you still choose to go against you're own morality and cause uneccessaary death.

@Slauderek You are not allowed to adopt animals owned by factory farms. Because they own those animals. Basically slavery

@Danny Williams  yes they do the small farmers the ones that don’t be doing the shit

Exactly. If u want an animal to be safe, buy or adopt it

And the best part is, animals dont get shot in the head or throats slit to be slaughtered.  Unless its like 1 animal that a small farmer raised.  But in any other slaughter house they dont get shot or throats slit.  And he talked about feminism positively.  Assuming he agrees with that, its funny because many animals are killed similarly to unborn babies.  But animals have purpose, they are eaten for nourishment.  Brain-sucked unborn babies have no purpose, they are just disposed of.


Let’s go to the wild and ask the lions to stop killing gazelles


Jidion is so bad at debating 😭😭😭 he needs to stick to being goofy


Them talking : jdion just interrupting the vegan