You helping him when you should be helping your own people

You helping him when you should be helping your own people

just realized that the steak comes from a cow that eats grass so technically we all are vegan

just realized that the steak comes from a cow that eats grass so technically we all are vegan

Absolutely love the respect in linking the man's channel. You do good ass content my guy.

Absolutely love the respect in linking the man's channel. You do good ass content my guy.

His last name is ramms like a 🐏 ram. Kinda funny

His last name is ramms like a 🐏 ram. Kinda funny

Listening to this feminist sound exactly how libs talk🤦🏿♂ so much non sense and ppl believe it

Listening to this feminist sound exactly how libs talk🤦🏿♂ so much non sense and ppl believe it

@Aiden Guardalben Exactly. Vegans so often push that their diet is healthy, environmentally conscious, and an ethical alternative, but are, in reality, none of these, and are generally worse off in all of these aspects compared to our natural omnivorous diet.

If we were vegan by nature in the beginning of our evolution to humanity then this conversation would never have occurred. So is the view of the vegan since we have made it past that part of our genetic evolution we no longer need to play role in hunters and become vegetated farmers and breeders to flourish (mother) earth?

@Aiden Guardalben you’re saying throat slashing is… peaceful and Godly?

@Aiden Guardalben you’re saying throat slashing is… peaceful and Godly?

@Summer Skye the Bible tells us that we can’t be judged for eating meat. Ur making people who eat meat out to be demonic and violent.

@Summer Skye the Bible tells us that we can’t be judged for eating meat. Ur making people who eat meat out to be demonic and violent.

@Jay 4You u said going down the biblical path is outdated. What does that mean then? How can the biblical path be outdated if the Bible is still relevant today? I think that’s a contradiction right there

Bro no one suffers from ptsd from slaughtering animals the use the certain gun thing that instantly puts the animal down no pain at all they don’t slice there throat till after there dead. That foo stupid

What do u think of this song? https://youtu.be/1Fe2OwqZgV8

What do u think of this song? https://youtu.be/1Fe2OwqZgV8

@Soycrates the Bible also tells us that no person has the right to judge others for eating meat

@Soycrates the Bible also tells us that no person has the right to judge others for eating meat

@Aiden Guardalben Please don't use the Bible to condone an unnecessarily violent lifestyle. The Garden of Eden was a vegan garden. It is sin to consume animals unnecessarily.
1. “And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” —Genesis 1:30

2. “But Daniel resolved that he would not defile himself with the royal rations of food and wine … Then Daniel asked … ‘Let us be given vegetables to eat and water to drink.’ … At the end of ten days it was observed that they appeared better and fatter than all the young men who had been eating the royal rations.” —Daniel 1:8, 11–12, 15

3. “The wolf and the lamb shall feed together; the lion shall eat straw like an ox; but the serpent—its food shall be dust! They shall not hurt or destroy on all my holy mountain.” —Isaiah 65:25

4. “But ask the animals, and they will teach you; the birds of the air, and they will tell you.” —Job 12:7

5. “The righteous know the needs of their animals, but the mercy of the wicked is cruel.” —Proverbs 12:10

6. “He gives to the animals their food, and to the young ravens when they cry.” —Psalms 147:9

7. “I will make for you a covenant on that day with the wild animals, the birds of the air, and the creeping things of the ground; and I will abolish the bow, the sword, and war from the land; and I will make you lie down in safety.” —Hosea 2:18

8. “How long will the land mourn, and the grass of every field wither? For the wickedness of those who live in it the animals and the birds are swept away, and because people said, ‘He is blind to our ways.'” —Jeremiah 12:4

9. “Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten in God’s sight.” —Luke 12:6

10. “Your righteousness is like the mighty mountains, your judgments are like the great deep; you save humans and animals alike, O Lord.” —Psalms 36:6

11. “Blessed are the merciful, for they will receive mercy.” —Matthew 5:7

@Aiden Guardalben just because there's other ills in the world doesn't me we should turn a blind eye to this one, and it is disrespectful to rank pain and suffering in importance, suffering is suffering. It is also possible to care about multiple things at once. When we purchase animal products we are contributing to animal abuse.

@Aiden Guardalben Why does dominion have to mean being violent and oppressive over the weak instead of protective and caring stewards?

If you want to represent God as a human in his image, then think about what Gods ideal perfect world would be.

In the Lord’s Prayer it states “thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven”

Christians should bring heaven to earth, not hell.

Slaughterhouses are HELL on earth, inflicting pain, misery, and death onto innocent individuals. This would not take place in heaven.

David was 100% right about what happens to the animals, see for yourself and don’t be a coward.
dontwatch.org

@Jay 4You dont say im "not a real christian' then call the bible outdated people are much more significant than animals and if u were a "real christian" u would know that sacraficing a lamb IS outdated bc that was a way to keep people in check and realize how precious life is but we stopped doing that after jesus christ our lord and savior died on the cross for our sins.

@Soycrates I’ll think about not eating meat when abortions illegal and when we start caring more about baby humans then baby deer.

@Soycrates I’ll think about not eating meat when abortions illegal and when we start caring more about baby humans then baby deer.

@Soycrates “When the Lord your God enlarges your territory, as he has promised you, and you say, ‘I will eat meat,’ because you crave meat, you may eat meat whenever you desire.

Deuteronomy 12:20

@Aiden Guardalben I agree with you, brother. Let's use our free will to live consciously, to make right of our sins and reduce suffering and to protect the vulnerable in this world. Back in the day, it was necessary for humans to kill and eat animals. However, today we have an abundance of plant-based foods which we can survive and thrive from. Why should we continue to cause suffering to these vulnerable animals if we don't need to? Is it not a form of greed and selfishness to value our tastebuds and convenience over the life of an animal that has the capacity to feel pain and suffer, and has a desire to live?

@Soycrates actually gods creation was perfect in the beginning. It was sin that brought corruption and confusion. Sin still corrupts the world today. Adam and Eve sinned and separated humanity from god. God gave them the ability to have free will and he gave them the decision to either obey or disobey because he is just. He could’ve just made us like robots but instead he designed us in a way so that we could make decisions for ourselves.

@Aiden Guardalben if we have free will, do you think it's better to use our standing with love and compassion to protect the vulnerable? Do you think a compassionate and benevolent God would have given non-human animals the capacity to feel pain and suffer if they are here to be killed? Listen to your conscience that God gave you.

@Gunner Royal I hope not because it's INHUMAN!

@Gunner Royal I hope not because it's INHUMAN!

@Jay 4You Not everyone buys meat from huge conventional factory farms so sure it happens but not everyone who eats meat supports it

@Jay 4You Not everyone buys meat from huge conventional factory farms so sure it happens but not everyone who eats meat supports it

Most vegans are agnostic or atheist. The thing is is where does he get a sense of morality from. Because if we just evolved where why we evolved are gain morality when it's survival of the fittest.

You should have also asked him if he's pro-life or pro-choice. Plus in the Bible God slaughtered the very first animal to clothe Adam and Eve.

@Aiden Guardalben1- You're a walking contradiction because by definition outdated means old or no longer needed. So you're admitting that some references you wanted to use as an argument against veganism is outdated. Never said the entire Bible was, learn how to read to be relevant.

2- I don't think God came to you and said what he intended to do. You're assuming. But intelligence does determine value, value does call for compassion could it be for small or big things.

3- God created all beings, they're therefore all valued. If I'm an honest person who pretends to believe in God, I can't be ok with the way the meat industry treats animals.

4- I don't believe for a second that God intended to have mass production of animals, have them stuffed in cages eating their own feces or being bleached for your contentment. And that's what veganism is mainly against.

5-  Fake Christians and prophets telling others what THEY think God intended have been around forever and they represent the vast majority of so-called Christians we unfortunately see today, but once you know better, you understand it's not a thing as I'm 100% sure you don't live by every single one of the Bible's principles.

@Jay 4You stoning and sacrificing was something of the Old Testament you clearly haven’t study the Bible in depth. It’s no longer needed because of Jesus sacrifice. That’s why u don’t see people doing stuff like that. Animals can be treated better before being killed for food. Being intelligent doesn’t determine value. A human is more important then an animal and we have intrinsic value. I’m not saying. Its just a fact and that’s how god intended it to be. The Bible isn’t outdated. Some practices are no longer necessary. No one can take the wisdom and truth away from Gods word.

@Aiden Guardalben Meat is important,  yes and no. We're in the 21st century and God gave us a brain and options. You can live a very healthy life and be vegan. Just look at some world famous athletes who are vegan. Have you ever watched a documentary about how animals are treated in slaughter houses or even prior? How is that ok?  It's not only about the end result it's about the whole process.

Look, I've watched and liked the vegan trolling video, but the vegan guy is indeed right about everything as even myself I started a few months ago some type of flexi-vegan diet ( introducing more vegan products into my diet but still eating meat sometimes) as I can't pretend to be an animal lover and be ok with the way they're being treated. They can't speak but they're so intelligent and therefore it's not ok. No one would be ok to have their cat or dog slaughtered for meat but because it's a pig( pigs are smarter than dogs) it's suddenly ok? Who are you to say what type of life is more significant than another?

Going down the Bible path is outdated and frankly ridiculous , how many lamb a day do you sacrifice? How many adultery women do you stone ? Do you always tell the truth 24/7, never judge or commit any sin? Please stop. It's just convenient to hide behind the Bible like many do.

@Gunner Royal Maybe he did, but I'm 100% sure he didn't put them for us to treat them like they do in slaughter houses. It's literally inhuman.

And look I've watched and liked the vegan trolling video but the vegan guy is right about everything as even myself I started a few months ago some type of flexi-vegan diet ( introducing more vegan products into my diet but still eating meat sometimes) as I can't pretend to be an animal lover and be ok with the way they're being treated. They can't speak but they're so intelligent and therefore it's not ok. No one would be ok to have their cat or dog slaughtered in horrible circumstances for meat but because it's a pig( pigs are smarter than dogs) it's suddenly ok?. Nah the "God" excuse, is too easy when 99% of the people using God or the Bible, don't live by its exact principles.

@Cole Spradlin It has nothing to do with food chain. It's about compassion and if you're a real Christian, you should know what that is. Have you ever watched a documentary about how animals are treated in slaughter houses or even prior? How is that ok?

Look, I've watched and liked the vegan trolling video, but the vegan guy is indeed right about everything as even myself I started a few months ago some type of flexi-vegan diet ( introducing more vegan products into my diet but still eating meat sometimes) as I can't pretend to be an animal lover and be ok with the way they're being treated. They can't speak but they're so intelligent and therefore it's not ok. No one would be ok to have their cat or dog slaughtered for meat but because it's a pig( pigs are smarter than dogs) it's suddenly ok? Who are you to say what type of life is more significant than another?

The Bible path is outdated and frankly ridiculous , how many lamb a day fo you sacrifice? How many adultery woman you stone ? Do you always tell the truth 24/7, never judge or commit any sin? Please stop. It's just convenient to hide behind the Bible like many do.

@Aiden Guardalben Free will to be smart and compassionate too. Have you ever watched a documentary about how animals are treated in slaughter houses or even prior? How is that ok?

Look, I've watched and liked the vegan trolling video, but the vegan guy is indeed right about everything as even myself I started a few months ago some type of flexi-vegan diet ( introducing more vegan products into my diet but still eating meat sometimes) as I can't pretend to be an animal lover and be ok with the way they're being treated. They can't speak but they're so intelligent and therefore it's not ok. No one would be ok to have their cat or dog slaughtered for meat but because it's a pig( pigs are smarter than dogs) it's suddenly ok? Who are you to say what type of life is more significant than another?

The Bible path is outdated and frankly ridiculous , how many lamb a day do you sacrifice? How many adultery woman you stone ? Do you always tell the truth 24/7, never judge or commit any sin? Please stop. It's just convenient to hide behind the Bible like many do.

@Aiden Guardalben I agree they are different, but you are aware they feel pain and suffer like us and have families and care for their young if given freedom to do so? Are u aware the World Health Organisation classes red meat as a class 2A carcinogen? We don't want cancer so why would u want meat? U don't have to see them as like us or god to show respect and benevolence. I used to be a fisherman and ate animals for 34 years of my life, but the evidence is clear that we do not need to consume animals any more in this era. Go vegan and learn the ethics and you won't regret it, you'll wish you had done it long ago.

@Josh Wong uh animals are not “others” animals are animals. Very different from human beings. And killing an animal for food isn’t needless. Meat is important. U can’t compare animals and humans when it comes to autonomy because animals don’t think like humans. They also don’t have souls. We are like god and we were created in his image animals are not like god. They are apart of creation designed for humans.

@MELVIN LUNER,
Circle of life and lions,
This is an appeal to nature fallacy.

Imagine hearing a baby-killer say he or she will stop killing babies when you make lion stop killing their cubs. Or a rapist saying he will stop raping women if male ducks stop raping female ducks. Just because animals fight, murder, rape and steal from each other, doesn't mean it's justified for humans to do the same (interestingly enough to peaceful herbivorous animals like cows). Animals are not moral agents, they are moral patients. Still some animals sometimes display moral behaviour:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIacjWbHUdUCgA1Ac-6rnsFBUfqsREww2

“It's a sad World, it can't be stopped.”
Can be said by anybody when criticized about anything.

“No snowflake ever feels response in an avalanche.” — SJ Lec

“Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence. Suspect your own motives, and all excuses.* Do not live for others any more than you
would expect others to live for you.” — Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a
Young Contrarian

* emphasis mine

“Everything that is not forbidden by the laws of nature is achievable given the right knowledge.”

As per Christian God, He doesn't exist (the whole idea is self-contradictory, therefore self-refuting). Here's how:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIacjWbHUdUCucW9wcQZKKtvUP0lklDU1

To make matters worse, Christian God condones genocide, slavery, infanticide Himself. And is the opposite of good. A good God wouldn't expect worship, an evil God wouldn't deserve it.

Racism:
“Harass the Midianites, and defeat them” —Numbers 25:17

“Thus cleansed I them from all strangers.” —Nehemiah 13:30

“As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are round about you. You may also buy from among the strangers [NRSV: “aliens”] who sojourn with you and their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property.” — Leviticus 25:44–46

Genocide:
“You must not let anything that breathes remain alive. You shall annihilate them.” —Deuteronomy 20:16–17

Infanticide:
“O daughter Babylon, you devastator! Happy shall they be who pay you back what you have done to us! Happy shall they be who take your little ones and dash them against the rock!” — Psalm 137:8–9

“Their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.” —Hosea 13:16

“And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.” — Hosea 2:4

“I will punish the world for its evil. … Whoever is found will be thrust through, and whoever is caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed in pieces before their eyes; their houses will be plundered and their wives ravished. … Their bows will slaughter the young men; they will have no mercy on the fruit of the womb; their eyes will not pity children.” — Isaiah 13:11–18

@MELVIN LUNER,
Circle of life and lions,
This is an appeal to nature fallacy.

Imagine hearing a baby-killer say he or she will stop killing babies when you make lion stop killing their cubs. Or a rapist saying he will stop raping women if male ducks stop raping female ducks. Just because animals fight, murder, rape and steal from each other, doesn't mean it's justified for humans to do the same (interestingly enough to peaceful herbivorous animals like cows). Animals are not moral agents, they are moral patients. Still some animals sometimes display moral behaviour:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIacjWbHUdUCgA1Ac-6rnsFBUfqsREww2

“It's a sad World, it can't be stopped.”
Can be said by anybody when criticized about anything.

“No snowflake ever feels response in an avalanche.” — SJ Lec

“Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake; the grave will supply plenty of time for silence. _Suspect your own motives, and all excuses.*_ Do not live for others any more than you
would expect others to live for you.” — Christopher Hitchens, Letters to a
Young Contrarian

* emphasis mine

“Everything that is not forbidden by the laws of nature is achievable given the right knowledge.”

As per Christian God, He doesn't exist (the whole idea is self-contradictory, therefore self-refuting). Here's how:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIacjWbHUdUCucW9wcQZKKtvUP0lklDU1

To make matters worse, Christian God condones genocide, slavery, infanticide Himself. And is the opposite of good. A good God wouldn't expect worship, an evil God wouldn't deserve it.

Racism:
“Harass the Midianites, and defeat them” —Numbers 25:17

“Thus cleansed I them from all strangers.” —Nehemiah 13:30

“As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are round about you. You may also buy from among the strangers [NRSV: “aliens”] who sojourn with you and their families that are with you, who have been born in your land; and they may be your property.” — Leviticus 25:44–46

Genocide:
“You must not let anything that breathes remain alive. You shall annihilate them.” —Deuteronomy 20:16–17

Infanticide:
“O daughter Babylon, you devastator! Happy shall they be who pay you back what you have done to us! Happy shall they be who take your little ones and dash them against the rock!” — Psalm 137:8–9

“Their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open.” —Hosea 13:16

“And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms.” — Hosea 2:4

“I will punish the world for its evil. … Whoever is found will be thrust through, and whoever is caught will fall by the sword. Their infants will be dashed in pieces before their eyes; their houses will be plundered and their wives ravished. … Their bows will slaughter the young men; they will have no mercy on the fruit of the womb; their eyes will not pity children.” — Isaiah 13:11–18

@Aiden Guardalben Dominion does not mean we should needlessly murder others even if u feel they have less moral worth. To them,  they value their life and bodily autonomy as much as u do your own. U can be faithful theist by not killing innocent beings as well, choose justice for them and us.

@Aiden Guardalben Humans are animals though

@Aiden Guardalben Humans are animals though

@Krwiomocz.Bogurodzicy Ⓥ well as a Cristian the Bible says we may feed on animals that’s the main reason why we still do and in other cases I want to have a balanced diet not just forcing my self to eat grass all the time if u don’t want to eat meat I wouldn’t stop you no one will cuz there would be more for me 😋 to eat I wouldn’t stop you same as you wouldn’t stop me
Everyone to themselves
If you want use to stop killing animals try telling that to a starving lion and tell me if it wouldn’t Devore you
It’s the cycle of life bro 🤷🏾♂
It’s a sad world we live in
It can’t be stoped

@tunes ✝God loves you so much! Come to him and experience his love for you. Come to him, it ain’t no coincidence that your seeing this :). God wants a relationship with you.✝

@tunes ✝God loves you so much! Come to him and experience his love for you. Come to him, it ain’t no coincidence that your seeing this :). God wants a relationship with you.✝

✝God loves you so much! Come to him and experience his love for you. Come to him, it ain’t no coincidence that your seeing this :). God wants a relationship with you.✝

✝God loves you so much! Come to him and experience his love for you. Come to him, it ain’t no coincidence that your seeing this :). God wants a relationship with you.✝

@MELVIN LUNER,
Is it good when people who eat dogs and cats question the ethics of eating them? Would it be good if they went vegan? If they went vegan, would it be no better than if they merely stopped eating dogs, but kept eating cows?

“In their behavior toward creatures, all men are Nazis. Human beings see oppression vividly when they're the victims. Otherwise they victimize blindly and without a thought.” — Isaac Bashevis Singer

@Aiden Guardalben,
Here's why:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIacjWbHUdUCucW9wcQZKKtvUP0lklDU1

@Aiden Guardalben,
Here's why:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIacjWbHUdUCucW9wcQZKKtvUP0lklDU1

@Aiden Guardalben,<br>God doesn't exist and we don't have free will.

@Aiden Guardalben,
God doesn't exist and we don't have free will.

am i aloud to wear pro rawdogger at school?

am i aloud to wear pro rawdogger at school?

1 MIL likes and he has to go back and do it again

1 MIL likes and he has to go back and do it again

Try watching Dominion @JiDion and tell me how that fits in with Christianity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny6aqdFy9SI

Try watching Dominion @JiDion and tell me how that fits in with Christianity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny6aqdFy9SI

He’s pretty cool he’s not a weird crazy vegan

He’s pretty cool he’s not a weird crazy vegan

@Champ I must say, Kosher is worse as the animal is fully conscious when they needlessly have a knife dragged across their throat and suffer immensely while they bleed out, terrified. If you wouldn't do it to a human then it's not acceptable for any sentient animal. Animals deserve our protection as we are the smarter and more powerful. The strong protect the weak, we don't exploit and murder others for pleasure.

He man, remember this, a sacrifice is willingly given, the animals u say u sacrifice don't  willingly give u their lives. Hope u can see your are needlessly stealing their one and only possession and the thing that matters most to them. You'd make a great Vegan bro, u can do it, believe  it.

Please be respectful and take veganism seriously. It's hardly even a choice when people become vegan. It is a paradigm shift, a change in perspective. We realized we were wrong in our actions and we had a moral obligation to live a different way. I can't go back on that even if I wanted to. Are you against animal abuse? Then you're already vegan at heart. Align your actions with your ethics, the only thing you'll regret is not doing it sooner. ✌

Well the truth or that god put animals on here to eat so…

Well the truth or that god put animals on here to eat so…

And the sacrifices in those times are no comparison of morallity then human sacrfices that existed in the past by many cults and religions that murdered innocent babies children men and women.

And the sacrifices in those times are no comparison of morallity then human sacrfices that existed in the past by many cults and religions that murdered innocent babies children men and women.

To everyone kosher meat is good the animals are treated good and are checked for diseases. Treating animals bad is horrible but part of there existence is to sustain ours. Pain is part of the circle of life just how other animals eat other animals how ever we as human do not eat our own because we have the strong ability of choice, animals are kind in nature and so you should eat the animals that have a clean nature because this effects our nature.

You saying you finna come see Tyrone I live in atx gotta bring the atx raw doggers for backup 😳

You saying you finna come see Tyrone I live in atx gotta bring the atx raw doggers for backup 😳

Jesus Christ be with you jidion . Way to stick up for us Christians .

Jesus Christ be with you jidion . Way to stick up for us Christians .

Funny,Christian,and smart gotta love it❤

Funny,Christian,and smart gotta love it❤

JiDion I have an idea go to a hotel with Jackpot machines and keep on saying jackpot

JiDion I have an idea go to a hotel with Jackpot machines and keep on saying jackpot

@Neon no sir I can’t have insta but I will support u the best I can dude I love u bro

@Neon no sir I can’t have insta but I will support u the best I can dude I love u bro

200K? We gon' be waiting a long time then

200K? We gon' be waiting a long time then

Dude I love u so much more knowing ur a Christian I love u bro keep up the kid work 🤩🤩🤩🤩❤❤❤❤

Dude I love u so much more knowing ur a Christian I love u bro keep up the kid work 🤩🤩🤩🤩❤❤❤❤

You are the best! Love your channel, Demarcus Jidion Cousins is the best you tuber in the world🤪🤣😇But what is censored on the wall!?!?😳😳😬😬

You are the best! Love your channel, Demarcus Jidion Cousins is the best you tuber in the world🤪🤣😇But what is censored on the wall!?!?😳😳😬😬

When agent said you don't care what people think about you he was right. (That's not a bad thing) 😂

When agent said you don't care what people think about you he was right. (That's not a bad thing) 😂

You are the best YouTuber out there no cap you should have 100 million

You are the best YouTuber out there no cap you should have 100 million

Shoulda mentioned how it’s a good chain and if we didn’t eat animals it would f*** the whole food chain so we’re just keeping it in check, and I’m glad to hear ur a Christian brother God bless 🙏🏼

Kbonsa look up fuck Tyrone from jidion it’s a great song

Kbonsa look up fuck Tyrone from jidion it’s a great song

Here's the truth about death: https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/media/e/17275/t/truth-about-death

The Sabbath:
Sabbathtruth.com

Here is the truth about revelation:
https://www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/watch/archives/o/1194/t/prophecy-encounter

Yo Jidion pls like me comment I love your yt

Yo Jidion pls like me comment I love your yt

Gonna get all the Instagram porn bots to follow u ma boi

Gonna get all the Instagram porn bots to follow u ma boi

You could’ve gone down the biblical path of explaining how we have dominion over animals but it’s not like this guy would’ve understood cause he was too busy explaining how he’s 100 percent correct lol. Just cause we kill animals doesn’t make it immoral. Humans are not animals therefore a human life has much more significance than an animals because we were created in the image of god and have free will.


The vegan guy “animals get shot and throats slit everyday” jidion “smokin on that cow pack” got me dying

It's the separation in how much people value animal life. Do they deserve the same rights? Why should we care?

@Devon Meyer I was thinking the same thing

@Jameson Mcripfist Okay... but where was the point I missed? They were saying that a death by gunshot is less painful than being eaten alive by another animal, which is true. What makes their point completely irrelevant is the fact that factory farming is done purely to satisfy the wants, not needs, of humans whereas animals eating one another is the only way they can survive.

@V P I believe it was a comparison between wild living and factory farm living. I wasn't agreeing nor disagreeing, and I think my profanity may have been a bit over the top as a logical discussion would be preferable.

The point was that animals who lived in the wild statistically live shorter lives due to predators and other causes from being in the wild. At least that's what I took from inference.

I am in complete agreement that the lives of these animals are quite horrible, but there's almost nothing anyone can do because the industry is so large, and most people just don't care about living conditions of animals which will be executed.

@Jameson Mcripfist What exactly was the point then? You realize that the overwhelming majority of animal products consumed by humans are from factory farms in which animals needlessly live short painful lives of misery by the billions, right?

@V P Man, how the fck did you miss the persons point? Try again.

@MacBurger - Topic Supply and demand buddy.

@Devon Meyer Last I checked, there are no predators hunting animals in factory farms. Try again.

@Devon Meyer That's really not a good comparison at all. Imagine saying that as a defence for a human too. "Better to be shot to death because dying of old age or a disease is more painful."

Bald Manc Twat With A Head Like A Fucking Orange

What got me is him comparing jidion eating food to sexually harassment

Are you talking about the video where he went to the restaurant or this one

I now watching it i aint get to that part and this comment got me dying alr 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Carter Brown it’s fucking obvious plus people who got shot before say they could not feel it until later because of the Rush what they get of adrenaline and if shit in the head they will die before 2 minutes if done right

@aryan dass nah he was saying they shouldnt kill animals anymore bcs his religion was from thousands years ago? wtf

Well they’re moved in one at a time into what’s called a “kill box.” It’s a box that’s solid on all sides so that even the animals next in line to be slaughtered can’t see what’s going on in front of them. So it’s impossible for them to know what’s going to happen. One exception…

I mean, I’ve seen animals slaughtered while there were others present and in full view and none seemed perturbed about it. What gets animals going is when they smell the pheromones of a panicked animal that is left behind on the chute walls, gates, bars etc. When the next animal[s] get a whiff of that particular scent, they go nuts too; they never ask why they smell what they smell, they just react out of instinct (genetic survival because they’re prey animals). When they don’t smell such pheromones, they don’t think anything bad is going to happen to them; they don’t know they’re going to die next. They’re only concerned with being in an unfamiliar environment, but that’s about it.

@Devon Meyer bro vegans  can be like i aint eating meat but that aint gonna change that the animal is already dead meat gives us nutrients that we need there are alternatives but they dont be tasting like this juicy burger on my plate rn

Plus being shot in the death is a much less painful death than being eaten alive by a predator XD

Ya but the vegan guy was genuine demarcus did bad to him


Damn Jidion actually seems to know quite a bit about moral relativism and the Bible, good on him.

Jidions a walking W bro. Not afraid to express his religion, open minded, respectful, but still manages to be funny. Best YouTuber on the platform.

Jidion should have attacked the vegan's claim that it is objectively wrong to kill animals and asked the vegan how he can believe in morality without having a religious worldview being an agnostic. This would have probably invalidated his claims as most people believe some things are objectively wrong without being able to justify why any objective morality exists at all which is a problem Christians don't have.

Actually Jidion got abaolutely destroyed in the religion part of the debate

Actually Jidion got abaolutely destroyed in the religion part of the debate

organized religion is BS but objective morality is vital to humanity.

organized religion is BS but objective morality is vital to humanity.

@Tayba The doctrines of jihad are mentioned over 300 times in the Quran. And while people of Islam can be very peaceful, 25% believe that those who don't convert should be enslaved or executed. This is extremely troubling. I believe that they are being consistent with the Quran. Also, Jesus rose from the dead… And there's massive evidence that says he did, all of your arguments are Nolan void. You must continuously work for your salvation instead of work because you have it. That is the difference between Christianity and Islam. We don't earn salvation. It's given as a free gift and we respond in gratitude

@islu! on top of that our brother over here talking bout some old covenant stuff 😂 using the old religious practices to sound right

Homie is not as simple as you might judge him by his vids bro

Homie is not as simple as you might judge him by his vids bro

@islu! And you think there are things you're absolutely right about with zero evidence. That's called delusion.

Neither moral relativism nor the Bible is true. Grow up.

Neither moral relativism nor the Bible is true. Grow up.

@noro thank you. i feel surprised so many people think jidion made good points. once you really study it, and you end up believing in it.. that’s quite the problem

Obviously not if u end up believing in it

Obviously not if u end up believing in it

How could moral relativism be a good thing, though? There’s gotta be some objective morality at least in some cases. No one thinks Jeffrey dahmer made a good use of his time here, do they?

@Tayba
Quranic verse:
If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt. (10:94)
You've come to the right place. We are the people of the truth.
Jesus said:
"6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.""
-John 14:6

@Tayba Who is greater? Abraham, Moses, or Muhammed?

@Tayba Who is greater? Abraham, Moses, or Muhammed?

@Tayba Muhammed slept with a 8 year old. A child. She still played with dolls.(read koran) Mary was at a marriage age in her time, and was promised to Joseph. Huge difference. No book says 12 years of age.

@Josue Portillo
O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes regarding your faith; say nothing about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfilment of His Word through Mary and a spirit ˹created by a command˺ from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers and do not say, “Trinity.” Stop!—for your own good. Allah is only One God. Glory be to Him! He is far above having a son! To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And Allah is sufficient as a Trustee of Affairs. (171)

An-Nisa' 171 in the Quran

@Josue Portillo <br>“And Jesus said unto him, “Why callest thou Me good? There is none good but One, that is, God.” Mark 10:18

@Josue Portillo
“And Jesus said unto him, “Why callest thou Me good? There is none good but One, that is, God.” Mark 10:18

@Josue Portillo Joseph (pbuh) married Mary (pbuh) when she was 12. Do you seriously think that marriage back then was the same as now?? Also Muslims do believe in Jesus (pbuh), he’s a prophet, messenger and messiah. He isn’t god or the son of god.

We also follow Jesus (pbuh) better then you lot do. We don’t eat pork, which he also wouldn’t eat. Muslim women dress modestly and wear a hijab, the same way in which Mary (pbuh) did. Muslim men are supposed to have beards, the same way in which, Jesus Christ and every other prophet (pbut) had beards. We pray by prostrating, the same way in which Jesus would prostrate. We also fast like he would. We also say peace be upon him after saying his name. The way you responded to that person shows what type of person you are.

You need to learn about religions, instead of blindly following your own.

@Proud Misogynist,Racist,Homophobe🏳🌈⃠ you're on the right track, hell yeah! Animals eat each other so why can't we eat each other

Moral relativism is the dumbest shit ever

Moral relativism is the dumbest shit ever

@Landon Lee do you believe in Beating your wife , and marrying children? The prophet Muhammed did. If you don't repent and believe in Jesus you will perish with Muhammed, Buddha, and the Pope.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
John 14:6

@Josue Portillo anyway there no ping arguing As you are one of the close minded Christian’s. Do you believe the earth is flat? Do you squeeze the blood of pigeons over alters? Do you think the earth is 6000 years old

@Josue Portillo wow great argument bub. The amount of evidence you provided to prove your claim was astounding. And I know that for a Christian it’s pretty hard for you to not assume but I’m actually Muslim. The fact you deny a basic fact that every religion says that shows how close minded of a fool you are. The gates of hell will greet you no doubt

@Landon Lee And Every God denier says exactly what you said. You're hugging too tight to your sinful ways, to comprehend the freedom Jesus has to offer.

@Josue Portillo pretty much every religion says that about their book

@Josue Portillo pretty much every religion says that about their book

Objective truth is found only in the bible, everything else is man made.

Objective truth is found only in the bible, everything else is man made.

@Proud Misogynist,Racist,Homophobe🏳🌈⃠ And kill them mercifully. Nature does not care

@Proud Misogynist,Racist,Homophobe🏳🌈⃠ And kill them mercifully. Nature does not care

Bible does not support slavery like that and the guy on the left was extremely inaccurate about evreything he said

I eat meat and don't believe in religion, animals eat other animals ALIVE and raw, at least we're sophisticated enough to season it.

Yes, but some ideas are more valuable than others. A well defended and rational idea is much more valuable than an idea made on impulse. Ideas made on impulses are the main cause of pain and suffering in the world and result in no progress.

@noro what are you talking about ? He’s right in the Bible killing an animal for food or for atonement is not wrong

Really? His counter points were awful. "you believe what you belive in and I believe what I believe in"

@GodisGood No he talked about sacrificing lambs which was a thing in the Old Testament but they didn’t need to do that anymore when Jesus Christ the Son of God was sacrificed for our sins also in the beginning before Adam and Eve sinned they didn’t eat animals and the animals weren’t afraid of them but then they sinned and then they were allowed to eat animals

Jidion is the man but if he had any real understanding of the Bible and what it sanctions he'd definitely have NOTHING to do with it.  I truly think Jidion hasn't ever really pondered the question of "why" he believes in the Bible.

@Mr. Yeet Sorry I was having a hard time understanding what you meant. I do now, after the clarity

@islu! People only go to hospitals when they know they need healing. Likewise, know that the wages of sin is death and Jesus paid the price. Jesus sat with sinners because he did not sit with people who thought they were well. The farasis were hard-hearted and thought they earned heaven- Jesus said their father is the devil. So there you have the reference. We go to Jesus, we go to hospitals, and we only go if we realize we are broken. Jesus is our redeemer.

@islu! I think christians just need to remember that hospitals there for the sick just as Christ is here for this world

@islu! yeah its important to make that distinction, which is where discernment comes into play

@islu! yeah its important to make that distinction, which is where discernment comes into play

@Justin Leung There’s nothing wrong with understanding other ideologies, but adopting them and mixing them with your Christianity leaves you with idolatry.

@islu! yeah im christian as well but sometimes understanding outside ideologies is vital to create empathy and understanding of the world surrounding

@Justin Leung it’s not compatible with Christianity because we think there are things that were absolutely right about.

@islu! moral relativism is important because it endorses the idea that no one is absolutely right

@islu! moral relativism is important because it endorses the idea that no one is absolutely right

@Zane UndertheSun moral relativism is the worldview that says everyone’s morality  is unique to themselves and still somehow valid. It’s hard to rationalize the worldview because when a moral dichotomy arises, where one is directly opposed to the other, they can’t both be right.

And he also knows how to take a joke. Such a level headed guy makes everything better.

And he also knows how to take a joke. Such a level headed guy makes everything better.


The moment when it turned from a meme into an intellectual debate was incredible 🤣🤣

Yeah. I eat meat and I love Jidion's content, but this was not an intellectual debate and Jid didn't give a single good argument (in the video at least). It was all just false equivalences and platitudes and he just waved away when the vegan guy asked him an actual, sound question (about human-like beings and if he'd not consider them human and what it says about his compassion towards animals and animal suffering).

Personally, I recognize the logic in vegan arguments, but I just a) think meat tastes too good and any alternative products are still too expensive and/or hard to find and b) know that me stopping eating meat would not change anything, since there is already so much food wastage etc. I'd not even be anything close to a blip on the radar, and all that would happen is me putting effort and my own potential inconvenience towards something I don't care about that much

Still love Jidion though. Like he said, you can still have love and respect, and I don't have enough of a bone in this argument to care either way.

Jidion got destroyed in the religion part of the debate

@yathar thc right dude. How tf he gonna come in and say something’s not intelligent with that name. Cmon man.

@Joseph Broseph ah yes it wasn’t intellectual to have a debate where they bring up facts and good points and respecting each other, so dumb

@Joseph Broseph thanks for your opinion "joseph broseph"

There was nothing intellectual about this


Love when people actually discuss things and still respect each other. Another banger by Jidion

@Will Akana That’s the whole point though, morality is subjective. Something one person may think is morally wrong, might not be considered morally wrong by some other person

Jidion didn't actually discuss anything. He didn't actually engage with any points. He just kept reverting to "thats wat u believe, this is wat i believe"


He’s so right. At the end of the day, that’s his belief; he crosses the line when he tries to say being vegan is a morally superior stance.

@33cltn vegetarians do it for themselves. Veganism is an ideology

@33cltn vegetarians do it for themselves. Veganism is an ideology

I eat meat and… it is. The only possible counter argument could be environmental.

Obviously it is morally superior? Explain how it isn't

Obviously it is morally superior? Explain how it isn't

Hindus eat chicken everyday. And Bacon 😂 They just don’t eat cow. Gets your facts right bro

Hypocritical. Christians and Muslims do the exact same thing by believing they're the only ones worthy of an afterlife. Difference here is, it's a fact that we needlessly subject animals to short miserable lives of terror by the billions when we don't need to, while gods and afterlives don't exist.

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n Do you have sources for what you're saying??

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n Do you have sources for what you're saying??

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@33cltn maybe read a little more before commenting, my guy.

@33cltn maybe read a little more before commenting, my guy.

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n vegetarians and vegans are different beliefs my guy, vegetarians do not consume meat. Vegans believe in the use of 0 animal products.

damn argument. in my opinion, if your diet is what you want to do then do it. don’t say yours is morally superior. we’ve evolved to consume meat. sure, animals getting raised to inevitably be slaughtered really is bad. for some however, many still eat meat despite its health drawbacks and necessity today. you can get all of your nutrients from plants. as a meat eater myself, i view veganism or any plant-based diet as someone else’s beliefs. I eat meat myself because it tastes good and it is fairly nutritious. burger yum 🍔.

@Dylan peres the animals you named need different nutrients in order to survive 😂

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n and where are they today… not advanced at all 🤷♂😂

@Dylan peres our ancestors also had peanut brains and weren't far from the bottom of the food chain... not a great argument you have there

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n veganism and vegetarian is different. veganism is actually unhealthy.

Hicks in the south for the past few hundred years we’re saying the same thing verbatim about black people

It quite literally and technically is morally superior. Not exploiting animals unnecessarily is by definition a more morally superior thing than exploiting an animal for no reason lol

@Dylan peres and you can’t get creatine from vegetables

@Dylan peres and you can’t get creatine from vegetables

@Dylan peres gorillas are vegan because they can produce cellulose and produce more protein by eating vegetables, humans can’t do that

@totally tf2 But is any meat good for us? Especially when we can get everything from meat from insects or plants and avoid the bad health consequences??

@Dylan peres are we not omnivores for a reason? A balance is the best, not excessive meat eating nor forcing yourself to not eat meat when you very well could

@totally tf2 Yes i agree its due to their evolution.

Our ancestors collectively known as hominins ate fruits, leaves, seeds, flowers, bark and tubers.

Which is why if you compare our physiology to say that of a real carnivore like a lion or wild dog you see that they are much more suited to meat eating. That is why the leading causes of death in humans today heart disease, cancer, HBP, etc. etc. are all tied to excessive meat consumption. Red meat is literally listed as a class 1 carcinogen.

@Dylan peres first of all, they aren’t only plant eating by choice or because they want to help the environment, but rather that is their evolution unlike ours, and just because the gorillas diet is beneficial for them doesn’t mean it is for us? We are related but not the same species

@totally tf2 A herbivore is a vegan lol.

Gorillas eat predominantly plants and some insects like termites and ants. Therefore that would be the ideal diet for humans.

@Dylan peres gorillas aren’t actually Vegan and elephants are herbivorous

@Kallum big cap, you just have to be knowledgable and smart when you eat plant based. You have to make sure you eat enough and focus on what you eat. Pays off for sure.

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n what does that have to do with poo people?

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n what does that have to do with poo people?

@slydog just say you failed trigonometry

@slydog just say you failed trigonometry

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n yeah but they indians, so they not really a shining example of humanity

@Kallum Do you have a single source for Vegans breaking more bones than non-vegans? A vegan diet has all nutrients except for B12 which a supplement is needed. Elephants are vegans, Gorillas are vegans, they are both stronger, larger and bigger than you.

Btw im not a vegan or vegetarian just calling out your bs

@Space Wolf Have any cultures that haven't practised slavery been to the moon, though?

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n no hes got a point technological advancement is directly correlated to the well being of ones culture. In modern society it is measured by the strength of a nation’s economy. Cultures that lead lifestyles which create the highest odds for a someone to develop a technological advancement currently is russia, us and china and they are notably not endorsing a vegan lifestyle. Countries that are poor are so because they dont have the resources to improve their occupants lifestyle. They arent able to allow the best chances for someone to step out and make a development that causes notable effect

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n This is a lie, all traditional cultures rely on some use of animal foods, usually animal fats since they keep well longer than the meat.

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n that’s gotta be the longest “no” I’ve ever read.

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n that’s gotta be the longest “no” I’ve ever read.

@Space Wolf completely unrelated? I could point at obesity rates, i could point at the shootings, i could point out so many things to make fun of your culture, but there's no need, cause all of that is completely irrelevant. Good troll though.

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n Have any of those cultures been to the moon, though?

@Kallum again, no sources. "probably" doesnt work. Also the premise of argument seems counter intuitive to me. There was more manual labour back then, most things were not automated like today, so they would be spending more energy. Even in our times, agro-based societies consume more calories than urban dwellers.

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n it probably didn’t matter in ancient societies cause the average person vegan or not was malnourished and lived to like 35, as they did not eat nearly enough in the  pre agricultural revolution world. The point being that in our current age where having a healthy diet can be sustained, eating meat is far more  beneficial than not. Vegans break bones up to 2.3x more than meat eaters and them lacking  proteins/nutrients should be common knowledge as a vegan diet is far harder to keep up with especially when meat is a significant source of protein and specific chemicals our bodies need.

@Kallum source? Just to use an example, ancient Hindu societies had vegetarian diets, and they still do to this day. They used to fight literal wars.

Also keep in mind that im talking of vegetarianism NOT veganism.

@[-0LT'U Iiii307n they also have higher chances of breaking bones and are usually deficient in proteins/nutrients needed for life.

@BrandonFoamposite Just so you know, there are cultures in the world that have existed for 1000s of years who have a strictly vegetarian diet.

@BrandonFoampositehow are vegans malnourished?

@BrandonFoampositehow are vegans malnourished?

Veganism could never be superior when they’re malnourished LOL.

Veganism could never be superior when they’re malnourished LOL.


I love the energy man….unmatched….he managed to bring to light the negative way the man tries to impose his beliefs on people. The guy makes everyone who doesn’t do what he does a bad person/d bag.


I swear Jidion never misses!! His videos just keep getting better and better!

Legit what unseen powers does my guy behold

What u think of this song? https://youtu.be/1Fe2OwqZgV8

The vegan video was cringey as fuck. A lot of his shit is just cringey now

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Jidion should go to a casino and just keep yelling he won

Stop sleepin on my YouTube channel, I’m going to be the biggest Mexican stoner on YouTube soon!🥶🙏💨

My videos are similar style to Jidion, I’m a New Youtuber and tryna hit my dream of 5k 🔥🔥🔥

I’ve watched like half of his videos in 3 days. Insane YouTuber

@oohpa arjan He has other channels as well and he streams so he's got a lot going on

@oohpa arjan he’s been consistent lately! He got 4 videos up in a month

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the vegan guy seems to have his heart in the right place, i.e caring for animals. but the reality is that humans evolved on a diet high in meat. it's not reasonable to expect someone to sacrifice their own health by not eating meat.

the vegan guy seems to have his heart in the right place, i.e caring for animals. but the reality is that humans evolved on a diet high in meat. it's not reasonable to expect someone to sacrifice their own health by not eating meat.

@Lanthums those supps those fuckin bean protien shitters all those fucking micronutrient shits you gotta get in and all the bloodwork you need to make sure you arent fucking up your self is expensive

@Lanthums those supps those fuckin bean protien shitters all those fucking micronutrient shits you gotta get in and all the bloodwork you need to make sure you arent fucking up your self is expensive

@chumpstain vegans often are extremely reliant on supplements to have normal levels of vitamins and minerals. Vegetarians at least have animal products that make it much easier to make up the difference in a way that doesn't strain your body. Eating meat isn't nessecary (in the western world and for people in the western world that can afford the artificial alternatives) but its currently the most effective and efficient way to have a healthy body.

So history = morality? We also used to keep slaves mate

So history = morality? We also used to keep slaves mate

@ThatFoxyGuy Went to college for general nutrition. It’s VERY hard to get all the essential vitamins and minerals from Vegan diets. Lean meats like Chicken, and Fish are great for you. Beer and pork in moderation has no bad effects on the human body. 99% of Vegans are very skinny and cannot hold muscle mass very well. Basically malnourished people just suffering

@Lanthums I personally did some internet research in the past in diet basically and you need all 7 types of proteins

@Lanthums I personally did some internet research in the past in diet basically and you need all 7 types of proteins

High in meat? We where lucky to to even catch something lol The human body is designed for efficacy, we're not carnivores.

High in meat? We where lucky to to even catch something lol The human body is designed for efficacy, we're not carnivores.

We didn’t evolve on a diet high on meat.

We didn’t evolve on a diet high on meat.

@Family Pranksters as I said before it’s way harder than eating “normal” you’re just Problem my point

@Family Pranksters as I said before it’s way harder than eating “normal” you’re just Problem my point

@Ken Kani it takes a lot more food when your vegan to get the same nutrients otherwise

@Ken Kani it takes a lot more food when your vegan to get the same nutrients otherwise

@Family Pranksters and the strongest not-vegan man is on steroids too.  a vegan diet isn’t more unhealthy than a “normal” one

@Family Pranksters and the strongest not-vegan man is on steroids too.  a vegan diet isn’t more unhealthy than a “normal” one

@Ken Kani the strongest man in the world as also in steroids

@Ken Kani the strongest man in the world as also in steroids

But there is no health issue with being vegan. It’s not like you can’t get your protein from somewhere else, the strongest man in the world was vegan for example. Like I’m not even a vegan or vegetarian but I feel like those vegan extremists are actually speaking the truth. In a modern time and in many countrys it’s not necessary to kill animals or let them suffer (like cows which are getting räped and robbed of their child after birth to steal their milk)  to have a good diet. The only reason for eating  meat is that it’s more comfortable in our society. You don’t need to resist the lust for meat and don’t need to count your taken amount of protein if you’re just eating “normal”,  though that’s means that you are letting animals suffer and die because you decided to eat the easy way. Again I’m not even vegetarian but I’m aware that because of my behavior other animals are suffering, emotional and physical, and I’m having the highest amount of respect for everyone who decided to eat vegan.

It’s not about that tho, and I know I’m late lol but this comment was just absurd. It’s not that we consume meat. We can. It’s the WAY we obtain the meat to consume it. Slaughterhouses aren’t cool bruh. Look them up

It’s not about that tho, and I know I’m late lol but this comment was just absurd. It’s not that we consume meat. We can. It’s the WAY we obtain the meat to consume it. Slaughterhouses aren’t cool bruh. Look them up

@HAKATAPAWA now we don’t need met because we can make vegan burgers and such. Back then you would not survive off of a vegan diet

@HAKATAPAWA now we don’t need met because we can make vegan burgers and such. Back then you would not survive off of a vegan diet

@Family Pranksters we don’t need a lot of meat in our diet at all. Being omnivore means that we eat whatever is at disposal. Considering how weak we were when we appeared and  that hunting techniques were not developed, most eat we ate was the meat of small or already dead animals.

@HAKATAPAWA we aren’t pigs. we are omnivores but we eat high meat

@HAKATAPAWA we aren’t pigs. we are omnivores but we eat high meat

That’s not true we aren’t carnivores bruh. Just like pigs main diet isn’t meat it’s the same for us.

That’s not true we aren’t carnivores bruh. Just like pigs main diet isn’t meat it’s the same for us.

@I'm just a bear with internet access U seen cp3 that man switched to a vegan diet for health reasons look how he ballin

@I'm just a bear with internet access U seen cp3 that man switched to a vegan diet for health reasons look how he ballin

@Lanthums to get the same nutrients as someone who eats meat. It costs more

@Lanthums to get the same nutrients as someone who eats meat. It costs more

@chumpstain the proteins in animal meat are essential to human health

@chumpstain the proteins in animal meat are essential to human health

@Lanthums Also Id like to add although the vegan movement has a respectable purpose, it's goal isn't realistic at all. Even once beyond meat and all of that is 100% identical, it wont change how those farms are. In fact, it will make things worse. Bringing hard times upon an imhumane company will result in even worse conditions. What should be done is instead protest to the government and ask for regulation on animals living conditions. What we have right now clearly isn't enough. Slaughterhomes will always be bad, but that doesn't mean the rest of the process has to be.

@Lanthums Funny I always hear vegans say its the best theyve ever felt but theyre always thinner than before. You can achieve that same feeling while ona  meat diet. Veganism is proven to be more difficult to get the same quality/range of proteins in comparison to the moet basic meat diets. Sure it's possible to live off of just plants, but it's much simpler, and generally more affordable to just include meat. This is because you assume all market conditions are the same as your local market, but on a much larger scale it's just not realistic to expect that from others.

@chumpstain Most vegans are unhealthy with weak bones and stuff. Meat has unparalleled nutrients compared to other food sources

@chumpstain Most vegans are unhealthy with weak bones and stuff. Meat has unparalleled nutrients compared to other food sources

@chumpstain yeah but i still want to eat it

@chumpstain yeah but i still want to eat it

@Ag 223 this is why I said you're not enlightened. Energy in food is different from what you're thinking. You can eat a bowl of certain vegetables that has "alive Energy" in it, meaning the bowl is ph leveled and alkalized vs a moose that was shot 4 weeks ago, sent to a butcher, then sent on a truck to a Walmart to sit on the shelves for a few days is INDEED DEAD ENERGY. Animals aren't killed in the back of grocery stores lol they have been dead for weeks when you buy the meat. Educate yourself.

@2GUYS1GUN you said dead energy meaning the opposite would be alive energy. You aren’t consuming any “alive energy• or “dead energy” so to speak. Alkalinity is not altering the energy and making it a much better alternative. Also my plant point was a hypothetical statement someone could make and how it wasn’t right or wrong. How that flew over your head and you perceived it as being my actual viewpoint is beyond me. Whether an animal has a heart or not doesn’t give them inherent value. All organisms have the same value , show me any evidence that I’m wrong.

@Ag 223 bro like I said, not gonna argue with someone not enlightened. Calories and alkalinity are 2 different things lol. High alkaline water of 8-10ph has 0 calories lol, has nothing to with calories. You said a whole lot of nothing, the difference is plants don't have hearts that stop beating from killing them, animals do. Get enlightened bud.

@2GUYS1GUN dead energy??? A calorie is a calorie, you aren’t eating dead energy. Other foods than greens and veggies are called super foods, a super food is just a food with high nutritional value. You are trying to project your moral belief that killing animals is wrong onto me, it’s disappointing to see someone not be able to bring themselves out of their close minded beliefs and think about other possibilities. Your feeling isn’t fact, it’s a feeling. If I felt that killing plants is wrong it doesn’t make it “wrong” in an objective sense. Morality is subjective, there is a fact for you.

@Ag 223 so you're eating dead energy, that's toxic. When you eat vegan, you are eating food that has alkalinity. Your body is at supreme feeling and supreme health when it's alkalized. This is why greens and veggies are called "super foods", so not just random claims, it's science lol, your body should be in an alkaline state. You may lack empathy and perspective in the moral side of it but I think we can both agree that slitting animals throats and shooting them in the heads, is plain wrong and would not be on top of a hierarchy. Weird you're arguing against this. And yes, it's something we can't fully understand that we need animals to die as we are above them, just bc we can't control our meat addictions, or selfishly just are having them die for our taste, bc remember we don't need meat to survive. We eat it bc we enjoy the taste.

@Ag 223 hey not gonna argue with someone that isn't enlightened.

@Ag 223 hey not gonna argue with someone that isn't enlightened.

@2GUYS1GUN humans are inherently addicted to meat? Are we also inherently addicted to vegetables, sugar, and water? 🤦♂ the health benefits are insane? That statement isn’t evidence I bet you watched game changers and then made that claim. It’s something humans can’t morally understand? Morality is a human created concept so I don’t know how there could be a moral feeling that humans don’t understand and how do you know there is some moral hierarchy that is above our understanding when it comes to eating animals?

It's crazy but as humans we are addicted to meat without control anymore. Being vegan is way healthier for you, and I'm not vegan saying this. The health benefits are next level, and morally it's on a realm we can't understand as humans

It's crazy but as humans we are addicted to meat without control anymore. Being vegan is way healthier for you, and I'm not vegan saying this. The health benefits are next level, and morally it's on a realm we can't understand as humans

@Lanthums I’m not against veganism but fr can we stop acting like it’s the best option and there are no downsides to the diet. 1. It is harder to obtain protein: fish, lean grass-fed meat, eggs, and whey are the easiest ways to get protein. 2. Many of the foods you listed simply don’t have the same satiety as certain counterparts, say what you want about red meat but 1 steak is calorically low and that shit will fill most people up for a while. Beans, rice, and salad isn’t enough to stop people from coming back for seconds. The best option for a balanced diet is to allow yourself to eat fish as a meat replacement, and if you can just hunt for your food and eat meat all you want. I don’t support the modern factory farming industry but there is no objective reason to be against harvesting or hunting animals. ( if you reply please don’t try and argue philosophy, if you can give me facts on why it isn’t helpful to kill animals I’d appreciate it )

I‘m not a vegan or a vegetarian, but the arguments from pro-meat people here are so dumb 🤦🏾

I‘m not a vegan or a vegetarian, but the arguments from pro-meat people here are so dumb 🤦🏾

@chumpstain yh but is good for u to have some meat from here to there

@chumpstain yh but is good for u to have some meat from here to there

When you just know that he is the same person that tells everybody to wear a mask and lockdown to "protect their own health"

When you just know that he is the same person that tells everybody to wear a mask and lockdown to "protect their own health"

@big zed yeah we ain’t carnivores we omnivores

@big zed yeah we ain’t carnivores we omnivores

Its been proven that your actually healthier on a vegetarian or vegan diet than being a carnivore so long as you keep track of what you eat Because alot of vegitarains have certain deficiencies that can simply be solved by eating the right vegetables

Its been proven that your actually healthier on a vegetarian or vegan diet than being a carnivore so long as you keep track of what you eat Because alot of vegitarains have certain deficiencies that can simply be solved by eating the right vegetables

@jenn You can literally get an impossible burger from starbucks for 6 dollars. U have no idea what you're talking about. Infinite information at your grasps and you still remain ignorant.

@jenn You can literally get an impossible burger from starbucks for 6 dollars. U have no idea what you're talking about. Infinite information at your grasps and you still remain ignorant.

@I'm just a bear with internet access you literally have a cellular device of infinite information and you're saying it's not easy to know which vegan foods to eat in order to get enough nutrition?  j

@I'm just a bear with internet access you literally have a cellular device of infinite information and you're saying it's not easy to know which vegan foods to eat in order to get enough nutrition?  j

There is a lot of truth in saying that we eat too much meat though. Factory slaughter workers do also suffer from high rates of depression, divorce etc.      I think we’ll end up having to tone down the amount of red meat we eat as a necessity in the future but until then, I’m eatin jerky.

It’s about respect for the life. you’re changing the goalpost of the expectation.

It’s about respect for the life. you’re changing the goalpost of the expectation.

@Tpin HCF I have sheep, they have the best possible life they could have

@Tpin HCF I have sheep, they have the best possible life they could have

@Byron C. NIZMO i’m done replying to comments on this. Read the whole conversation as all this shit has already been mentioned by me more than once.

@Byron C. NIZMO i’m done replying to comments on this. Read the whole conversation as all this shit has already been mentioned by me more than once.

@Lanthums It is true.  Being that you have to eat 3 or more times as much food to get proper nutrition and calories the price goes up fast.  These days veggies are overpriced as it is.  Then I gotta eat 3 times as much of it instead of having some greens and a Burger.

@Lanthums It is true.  Being that you have to eat 3 or more times as much food to get proper nutrition and calories the price goes up fast.  These days veggies are overpriced as it is.  Then I gotta eat 3 times as much of it instead of having some greens and a Burger.

@jenn imagine thinking ground beef cost (9.00$) per pound is cheaper 🤡🤡🤡🤡

@jenn imagine thinking ground beef cost (9.00$) per pound is cheaper 🤡🤡🤡🤡

@Roman J your being ignorant and mocking him

@Roman J your being ignorant and mocking him

@Lanthums yes but not organic with pesticides and such i think most people who are vegan are people with money for the organic foods

@Lanthums yes but not organic with pesticides and such i think most people who are vegan are people with money for the organic foods

@XD I should’ve specified when I mentioned that part that it only really applies to western society. I know how it is. I feel different about the topic now anyways, I’ve started consuming raw animal foods that are sourced correctly. Just don’t agree with animal abuse and the commercial farming industry.

@Lanthums saying that being vegan and all the vegan stuff is cheaper than meat or eating meat is false. Basing this on your empiric data is wrong.
Actually, in like 80% of countries which are 3rd world countries or countries in development, buying meat and products that come from animal production is way cheaper than veggies and vegan products.
For example, here in Latin America, with 40 dollar you could buy groceries for a week for a family of 4. And with those same 40 dollar you could only buy a day of vegan food and goodies for only 1 or 2 persons at most.
So just because you've seen that in your country veggies and vegan stuff seem to be cheaper doesn't mean it is actually like that. You gotta look at the bigger picture.
Plus, vegan diet is not only based on veggies and that's it. It is based on other things like tofu, and other types of products which can be more expensive than animal products.

Not saying being vegan is bad because I think is good, but you gotta be realistic and see how the economic situation is like for other people before assuming how veganism is cheaper.

@Ben Schramm I agree, I would just suggest to people taking that route to stay away from the fake meats and alternatives and stick to a whole foods plant based diet, staying away from starch as much as possible and sourcing your vegetables & fruits from a reliable organic place

@Ben Schramm I agree, I would just suggest to people taking that route to stay away from the fake meats and alternatives and stick to a whole foods plant based diet, staying away from starch as much as possible and sourcing your vegetables & fruits from a reliable organic place

You can get all your vitamins and nutrients from a plant based diet. I mean most of the benefits of meat are from the plants and grain that the animals eat. It just loses health and gains fat when it’s in meat. The only actual vitamin you lose without meat is B12 but you can take supplements for that.

@Ko whatever works for u we all built different, my point is just source ur food correctly. Go to local farms where u know the cows are treated right and fed grass. It’s for ur own health too.

@Ko whatever works for u we all built different, my point is just source ur food correctly. Go to local farms where u know the cows are treated right and fed grass. It’s for ur own health too.

@Justin Leung no vegetarian cuz you still need diary eggs is essential

@Justin Leung no vegetarian cuz you still need diary eggs is essential

@Lanthums  vegetarian not vegan big difference

@Lanthums  vegetarian not vegan big difference

@Lanthums no that’s not true it’s expensive maybe your country is different but if you want a healthy vegan life style you truly need to pay more also eggs are still essential <br>Also I’m allergic to some plants so that gives me fewer options

@Lanthums no that’s not true it’s expensive maybe your country is different but if you want a healthy vegan life style you truly need to pay more also eggs are still essential
Also I’m allergic to some plants so that gives me fewer options

@I'm just a bear with internet access no that vegan is right you can get everything from plants however it’s hella expensive and taste bad so I’m not doing it

@I'm just a bear with internet access no that vegan is right you can get everything from plants however it’s hella expensive and taste bad so I’m not doing it

@Lanthums nope the cheapest stuff is anything you can get your hand on
Fast food is way cheaper than any vegan Resturant for example
I can buy some meat or chicken for low price then punch vegan stuff so I can get all the equivalent proteins

@Lanthums nope the cheapest stuff is anything you can get your hand on
Fast food is way cheaper than any vegan Resturant for example
I can buy some meat or chicken for low price then punch vegan stuff so I can get all the equivalent proteins

@Lanthums Haha thanks! I wish more people would back up their words....

@Lanthums Haha thanks! I wish more people would back up their words....

@Support Sniper then salute to u, this goes towards the other 90% of the ignorant population and the reason why we need to be supporting those local farms now more than ever  to bring regenerative methods back

@Support Sniper then salute to u, this goes towards the other 90% of the ignorant population and the reason why we need to be supporting those local farms now more than ever  to bring regenerative methods back

@Lanthums I live next to farms :) I do support farm owners who treat their animals properly (I've gotten some good milk from a cruelty-free dairy farm and off-topic but it tastes better than generic brands) I have gone to the dairy farm and personally went through the fields, met the cows, and even went in the place where they take the milk from the cows (it was a place where the cows could come and choose when to go there to give away their milk).

@Support Sniper i respect ur believe. Now, do u make sure every single day that u source ur products correctly from local farms and you’re not funding the commercial farming that obviously abuses and treats them like absolute shit? Or are u just putting random claims out there?

@Support Sniper i respect ur believe. Now, do u make sure every single day that u source ur products correctly from local farms and you’re not funding the commercial farming that obviously abuses and treats them like absolute shit? Or are u just putting random claims out there?

In my opinion, God gave us dominion over the animals, we should use them for food and other animal products BUT, we need to be fair "rulers" and treat them with some respect in the process.

In my opinion, God gave us dominion over the animals, we should use them for food and other animal products BUT, we need to be fair "rulers" and treat them with some respect in the process.

@Itz Rookie808 yes ofc, that’s also why I’ve mentioned the setting you reside in matters a lot. Obviously I can’t tell people who hunt for a living, or who live in less fortunate places what to eat. This goes towards western civilization.. If you go to a store where everything is available or order your food online, I am against funding commercial farming. Honestly that goes towards plant farming too, in an ideal world we wouldn’t rely on a shit system for our food. Lol.

@BagCityTV Well yeah that's why you have a balanced diet. It should never be one or the other. Both have bad side effects. Balance is the key to everything.

@BagCityTV Well yeah that's why you have a balanced diet. It should never be one or the other. Both have bad side effects. Balance is the key to everything.

@Tpin HCF Personally, I think I would want to be killed by a machine and die quickly. Being slowly eaten alive, dragged around by like 5 animals, ripped apart is just a terrible way to go out.

@Tpin HCF Personally, I think I would want to be killed by a machine and die quickly. Being slowly eaten alive, dragged around by like 5 animals, ripped apart is just a terrible way to go out.

@Tpin HCF What are you talking about there are native tribes to this day that still hunt like they did back then. People all around the world still do it. The only people who care are the people living with nice houses, electricity, cars, computers, nice clothes n shit.

@Tpin HCF What are you talking about there are native tribes to this day that still hunt like they did back then. People all around the world still do it. The only people who care are the people living with nice houses, electricity, cars, computers, nice clothes n shit.

@Lanthums Idk about you, but greens in Hawaii it's fucking expensive. It's very hard to just buy a crap ton of greens and have it last for a long time. If people want greens/fruits or something we usually grow them but even then, a lot of people don't have that kind of time to take care of the plants unless they were retired or something or don't even have the land to do so. This is for Hawaii only ofc, not sure about the others.

I mean at the same time for one many people's throats are slit by other humans and 2nd do you think wolf's just think about caring for the animal when they hungry.

I mean at the same time for one many people's throats are slit by other humans and 2nd do you think wolf's just think about caring for the animal when they hungry.

@I'm just a bear with internet access meat is LITERALLY the worst most inefficient vehicle for nutrients. It literally slows down, and wears out your digestive system over time. Leading to other diseases. And it does this while offering the lowest variance of nutrients. It’s mainly just protein and fiber. Your body needs a lot of things meat doesn’t offer to highly function.

@I'm just a bear with internet access WHAT a lot of top athletes around the world are VEGAN

@I'm just a bear with internet access WHAT a lot of top athletes around the world are VEGAN

One thing I learn from this comment section is that being weeb and vegan is a bad combination.

One thing I learn from this comment section is that being weeb and vegan is a bad combination.

@Lanthums  are the insects smeared across your windshield every time you drive not sentient? Do you feel the same way about the sentient parasites you kill to make sure your food is safe to eat? Moral compasses differ from person to person, and personally I see no issue with the death of a non-sapient organism if it’s being used to provide sustenance. If you don’t want to eat meat no one will care, but trying to tell other niggas not to eat meat is corny af

@Lanthums that’s just you tho. All it really comes down too is how someone feels. If you feel like you don’t want to eat something that came from murder then don’t. I feel bad for animals but that doesn’t mean I don’t want to eat meat. I feel like it doesn’t matter where my food comes from all that matters is that I am grateful enough to have money to buy food.

@Lanthums i suppose so lol<br>Have a good day / night then! :)

@Lanthums i suppose so lol
Have a good day / night then! :)

@Lanthums I just would like to point out that humanity is incredibly flawed. Im sure you want to believe that being vegan is favourable because it feels morally correct, it appears to be cheaper. However the reality is much more complex. Crop imported cause many moral issues to arise as well, but I wont get into that. Really, the only way to stay out of any moral ambiguity is to buy local veggies, but that is incredibly expensive so many people may not be able to endorse that either

@Lanthums yeah theres no debate vegan is sustainable (physically wise) but a balanced diet is much easier and cheaper to endorse.

@Lanthums yeah theres no debate vegan is sustainable (physically wise) but a balanced diet is much easier and cheaper to endorse.

@I'm just a bear with internet access If that’s the case, everyone already knows you can be healthy both ways. There isn’t discussion there lol

@I'm just a bear with internet access If that’s the case, everyone already knows you can be healthy both ways. There isn’t discussion there lol

@Lanthums good for u and all if u don't wanna eat meat that is your choice but im not opposing that nor was that the focus of the discussion 😅<br>We were talking about whether consuming meat or going on a vegan /vegetarian based diet is  ideal for the high functioning of our body's

@Lanthums good for u and all if u don't wanna eat meat that is your choice but im not opposing that nor was that the focus of the discussion 😅
We were talking about whether consuming meat or going on a vegan /vegetarian based diet is  ideal for the high functioning of our body's

@Justin Leung the only thing i’m saying is a fact is that you can be healthy without consuming animal products , because it is. It doesn’t mean you can’t be healthy consuming them. My point is if you’re not going to eat plant based in a Western society, then at least be conscious about where you’re sourcing your products and shop locally. What we allow in commercial farms is unacceptable , we fund many terrible things as a collective.

@Lanthums ik ur not forcing veganism onto anyone, but claiming your experience as fact sure makes me feel some type of way

@Lanthums ik ur not forcing veganism onto anyone, but claiming your experience as fact sure makes me feel some type of way

@Lanthums but we arent talking about rape are we? My point was that humans are animals as much as lions are. If lions could look at the mass genocides that humans commit against each other im sure they would scoff in disgust

@Lanthums but we arent talking about rape are we? My point was that humans are animals as much as lions are. If lions could look at the mass genocides that humans commit against each other im sure they would scoff in disgust

@Justin Leung firstly I’d like to make it clear that I don’t force this lifestyle on anyone, and if it did sound that way then I apologize and know it wasn’t my intention. To answer the last thing, the way I think about it is, wild animals do things we consider immoral as human beings all the time. Lions rape each other in nature, that doesn’t mean we base our morality around that and excuse rape because other animals do.

@Lanthums I think a question that will allow you to prove your standpoint on vegans or lose all credibility is this: is a shark evil to eat a fish? Is a lion evil to maul a gazelle?

@Lanthums I think a question that will allow you to prove your standpoint on vegans or lose all credibility is this: is a shark evil to eat a fish? Is a lion evil to maul a gazelle?

@Lanthums there is also a no actual moral basis that supports the claim that eating meat is immoral. It makes no sense because the world is not a daycare. Its a dog eat dog world, the very nature of this world is to set things against each other so that something rises to the top. From an agnostic stand point, Humans are simply advanced animals, but still animals like sharks and orcas both of which play imperative roles in their ecosystems as they assume roles of the predator.

@Lanthums yes vegans can be very healthy but then look at the two top athletes in the world: Lebron and Cristiano Ronaldo. Neither of them are vegans, but they are the most physically superior in the world. Yes vegan is good, but eating balanced is the best and theres no refutation to that

@Lanthums being vegan and promoting the benefits is ok, but it becomes problematic when you start claiming that veganism superior to a balanced diet composed of both vegetables and meat

@Lanthums being vegan and promoting the benefits is ok, but it becomes problematic when you start claiming that veganism superior to a balanced diet composed of both vegetables and meat

@Lanthums being vegan can give you the same necessary nutrients as a meat diet, but the face is that some nutrients are sourced most purely from meat or other animal products. For example, creatine a chemical that improves the function of muscles is most pure and beneficial when consumed from herring or beef. Creatine can be consumed through supplements, but it is subpar to a pure source

@Liftism and can you attribute that to  them only eating meat? I would automatically assume that they probably live just healthier lifestyles then those who live in 1st world countries eating pizza all day

@Liftism and can you attribute that to  them only eating meat? I would automatically assume that they probably live just healthier lifestyles then those who live in 1st world countries eating pizza all day

@Liftism I follow people who do this as a life style and look just as healthy if not healthier than “meat eaters”, never said anything about powerlifting.. lmao.

@Liftism I follow people who do this as a life style and look just as healthy if not healthier than “meat eaters”, never said anything about powerlifting.. lmao.

@Tpin HCF would they like for us to give them a last meal

@Tpin HCF would they like for us to give them a last meal

@Lanthums subpar vegan athletes dont mention the powerlifting vegans they take peds.

@Lanthums subpar vegan athletes dont mention the powerlifting vegans they take peds.

@Liftism plenty of vegan athletes who disprove that biased claim 😅

@Liftism plenty of vegan athletes who disprove that biased claim 😅

@Lanthums the decreasing of muscle mass on a vegan diet is true you chose this ideology for yourself you will see its wrongdoings eventually maybe you'll save yourself before it gets damaging

@Lanthums the decreasing of muscle mass on a vegan diet is true you chose this ideology for yourself you will see its wrongdoings eventually maybe you'll save yourself before it gets damaging

@looper scooper there are tribes with meat based diets that live longer on average

@looper scooper there are tribes with meat based diets that live longer on average

@Tpin HCF it still happens today tho we eat meat to survive tf wtf r u saying

@Tpin HCF it still happens today tho we eat meat to survive tf wtf r u saying

@harper 1215  vegans are just saying the way animals are treated before death are inhumane sometimes, and i’m never gonna stop eating meat btw

@harper 1215  vegans are just saying the way animals are treated before death are inhumane sometimes, and i’m never gonna stop eating meat btw

@harper 1215 i see your what your saying but that’s a terrible point lol they don’t say shit cause that was thousands of years ago and those are just animals so they could eat to survive… y tf people gon b talking about how a tribe used to kill animals 🤣

@harper 1215 i see your what your saying but that’s a terrible point lol they don’t say shit cause that was thousands of years ago and those are just animals so they could eat to survive… y tf people gon b talking about how a tribe used to kill animals 🤣

@Tpin HCF no one says shit when native Americans did it and THE WHOLE WORLD ok change how they kill ‘em ig will that make y’all feel better at the end of the day ppl will continue to eat meat whether y’all like it or not

@Tpin HCF no one says shit when native Americans did it and THE WHOLE WORLD ok change how they kill ‘em ig will that make y’all feel better at the end of the day ppl will continue to eat meat whether y’all like it or not

@I'm just a bear with internet access  not true, you can still face the same nutrition problems on a regular meat diet

@I'm just a bear with internet access  not true, you can still face the same nutrition problems on a regular meat diet

@Lanthums you do not have experience you have some cringy anime thing on ur pfp, ur still still child and you clearly don't know the prices of vegan foods since ur mommy still makes you food, and I will, I enjoy eating delicious animals lol

@Lanthums you do not have experience you have some cringy anime thing on ur pfp, ur still still child and you clearly don't know the prices of vegan foods since ur mommy still makes you food, and I will, I enjoy eating delicious animals lol

@jenn I don’t “think”, I know. This is coming from a place of experience not some fictional ideology lol. Those are just a couple of examples and to continue contributing to animal abuse when I doubt you even buy your own food is HILARIOUS.

@jenn I don’t “think”, I know. This is coming from a place of experience not some fictional ideology lol. Those are just a couple of examples and to continue contributing to animal abuse when I doubt you even buy your own food is HILARIOUS.

@Lanthums if you think vegan food is just rice, beans and salads bru. that's on u how u gonna eat if u don't know how to make anything and actsuly meats and and stuff are so much cheaper in in area

@Lanthums if you think vegan food is just rice, beans and salads bru. that's on u how u gonna eat if u don't know how to make anything and actsuly meats and and stuff are so much cheaper in in area

@jenn I’ll state it again because it’s just a fact: The cheapest ingredients in a super market are plant based. You can cop any beans, rice, or fruits and you’ll live healthily. Doesn’t need to be that complicated and if you choose to buy other items and learn recipes that’s on you.

@Lanthums that's actually not true lol salad is cheap but other ingredients to maintain the diet are expensive and you have to buy it alot, n learn new recipes

@Lanthums that's actually not true lol salad is cheap but other ingredients to maintain the diet are expensive and you have to buy it alot, n learn new recipes

@Roman J Sounds pretty stupid doesn’t it. Thanks for proving my point, trolled yourself <3  hold this L for me g

@Roman J Sounds pretty stupid doesn’t it. Thanks for proving my point, trolled yourself <3  hold this L for me g

@Lanthums Eat him over an apple? Bro that is the weirdest kink Ive heard of

@Lanthums Eat him over an apple? Bro that is the weirdest kink Ive heard of

@I'm just a bear with internet access I don’t think it’s morally justifiable to take the life away from a sentient being living in a western society when you 1. don’t hunt and 2. go to a grocery store to get your food. Am I allowed to eat you over an apple because it’s just more convenient for me?

@Lanthums while its true you can get every essential nutrient in a plant based diet, garnering the recommended amount is not as easy, as opposed to just eating meat

@Lanthums while its true you can get every essential nutrient in a plant based diet, garnering the recommended amount is not as easy, as opposed to just eating meat

@Jeffory Phelps cholesterol is essential

@Jeffory Phelps cholesterol is essential

@ThatFoxyGuy i respect that answer. No one can force you to be vegan, but to say it’s not possible is ignorant. It’s true you have to put thought into it, I mean you can consume just mcdonald’s fries and coke and be considered vegan, a whole foods plant based diet is optimal.

@ThatFoxyGuy i respect that answer. No one can force you to be vegan, but to say it’s not possible is ignorant. It’s true you have to put thought into it, I mean you can consume just mcdonald’s fries and coke and be considered vegan, a whole foods plant based diet is optimal.

I'm not vegan or vegetarian but its definitely a myth that you can't get all the nutrients your body needs from a vegan or vegetarian diet. Certainly wont deny that it takes more time and dedication to put into getting everything you need but it's still possible.

I'm not vegan or vegetarian but its definitely a myth that you can't get all the nutrients your body needs from a vegan or vegetarian diet. Certainly wont deny that it takes more time and dedication to put into getting everything you need but it's still possible.

@I'm just a bear with internet access Not true. You can get every essential nutrient and mineral from a plant based diet. Already been proven repeatedly. Load of bullshit what u just said lol. I’ve been vegan for 2 years+ and feel the best i’ve ever felt in my life.

@I'm just a bear with internet access Not true. You can get every essential nutrient and mineral from a plant based diet. Already been proven repeatedly. Load of bullshit what u just said lol. I’ve been vegan for 2 years+ and feel the best i’ve ever felt in my life.

@Lanthums nah with veganism there comes the added health risks<br>Realistically veganism is promoted as being healthy, but the dietary lifestyle brings about a load of underlying health conditions and you miss out on alottt of nutrients your body needs

@Lanthums nah with veganism there comes the added health risks
Realistically veganism is promoted as being healthy, but the dietary lifestyle brings about a load of underlying health conditions and you miss out on alottt of nutrients your body needs

@RandomGaming Not true lol. The cheapest items in stores are all vegan. You don’t have to pay extra money for meat substitutes that aren’t even good for you. Beans, leafy greens, fruits, etc are all cheaper than your steak

@RandomGaming Not true lol. The cheapest items in stores are all vegan. You don’t have to pay extra money for meat substitutes that aren’t even good for you. Beans, leafy greens, fruits, etc are all cheaper than your steak

@chumpstain no you don’t but it’s cheaper than being vegan or vegetarian. Vegan and vegetarian lifestyles are expensive

@chumpstain no you don’t but it’s cheaper than being vegan or vegetarian. Vegan and vegetarian lifestyles are expensive

It more of a sacrifice to EAT meat. For example, cholesterol.

It more of a sacrifice to EAT meat. For example, cholesterol.

You don't need to eat meat to survive my g

You don't need to eat meat to survive my g

I think the vegans point is most animals are treated like shit

I think the vegans point is most animals are treated like shit