Wow. Amazing funny Episode as usual but I especially love the debate!

I personally don’t feel like a human perspective God especially if choosing for himself to be what we humans would much later come to understand as all merciful, would create beings (none of which could ever come close to holding a candle to him in his full size power being knowledge and glory)  like satan and any angel or human or whatever that he already foresees according to his own grand design before all existence began, will go to the worse imaginable existence in eternal hell punishment (or total soul annihilation if that’s what one believes), simply due to the failure to meet the very specific terms and conditions he set in place according to his grand plan.

However I do believe lots of the Bible as well as other religions are true and have been heavily manipulated with things that just seem like craziness nonsense to me, and believe that many gods exist like any other group of species but also believe there’s a supreme being unlimited God above and below us all and that is also us all by default, that encompasses all things and placed certain things to be certain ways from an infinite density perspective and probably since it exists in all things, all things have the ability to fully tap into that supreme being and do whatever is the conscience desire or mere action.

However I have nothing against people who think the Bible or any other religion is 100 percent correct (and no other doctrine) from front to back and will remain in that belief as long as they aren’t trying to force it on others or causing harm to others with anything to do with such beliefs. And end of the day, no matter how insane and silly certain things might sound to me, who really knows? Maybe it is true

I’m also vegan and believe it’s the healthiest way for all humans to live healthy lives with the least amount of health issues and promote top physics condition and don’t think animals should have to be tortured and killed but rather live the killing for food up to when mankind is in the wild with no other option to survive as well as animals doing so to each other, however I’m not gunna force that on others either or judge people because they eat me as if they have to be 100 percent conscious of the torture and truly enjoy that being the process to eat their food.


Whenever I hear a vegan talk, I go out if my way to eat an additional piece of meat.  Went in my kitchen and grabbed some beef jerky just for this video.  I'm not even hungry


I think you’re both respectable and well-spoken guys. Quite smart too


I have sickle trait, only recently have I discovered we carry low oxygen levels in our kidneys, we are even at risk to Kidney cancer (FFS). Always had strange things going on with my body despite never ever drinking, smoking or doing drugs. Anyway, upon eliminating/reducing meat my health shot up. My Kidney's were given a break, and my renal filteration system improved dramatically. No more migranes, no more toothache, no more hormonal issues, no more fatigue, no more pains in my sides and no more smelly pee pee. I would classify that as gentically being predisposed to be a Vegan. Sorry for the long post!


brother Jidion.
keep up with what your doing .
hello from Perth, Australia

i hope your reading this..

you seem very intelligent, may you please one day make a video reading the Bible and Quran 🙏🏽
(contradictions errors)

maybe bring a muslim Sheikh & Christian Priest and debate in your live Stream.


This video making me hungry for some Ribbs and steak not gonna lie.🍖😮💨💪🏼


I don’t think it should be just “the animals get killed or murdered” but they are abused tortured and mistreated and not able to live as they should be and taken care of and be healthy and happy.


It’s funny cause he whipped his meat out😂


I like how JiDion had so many points but dudes only comebacks were slaughter houses and animals getting shot in the head💀

I could try to respond to a point you believe was not responded by David. Do you have an example?


The “Da Baby” bit after every video gets me every time man


Made him think you wanted a serious conversation then shit on him


JiDion can't thank you enough for the laughs


It’s the equivalent of meat restaurants offering vegan options actually


honestly im eating bacon while watching this and its BUSSIN im still gonna keep eating


why did he buy another set of the grill and apron and utensils when he bought it last time?


Jidion on is the best YouTuber out there so proud of him for finally getting 1 mil

WARNING ⚠ JESUS COMMANDS YOU TO REPENT OR PERISH!!!! YOUR SOUL IS ON THE LINE!!!!

Wait fr? He hit a million? I didn’t even notice since his videos are that good

My videos are similar style to Jidion, I’m a New Youtuber and tryna hit my dream of 5k 🔥🔥🔥


You blew up bro ❤❤❤ 2.2 mil followers now and a year ago u had 97k


It's sad when Jidion is making more sense than this guy. Genesis says that we have dominion over the animals of the earth


Woah man awesome that you gave space for David’s arguments! No need for us to eat animals, plant food is much better with no animal suffering 🔥

@Jay yoo exactly bro,Cameron you should start a movement to stop animal on animal violence,predator and prey equality.

@Cameron MacDonald Y'all stay mad at us for eating animals but what about other predators like lions, cheetahs, alligators, eagles, snakes and the many other apex predators that hunt animals every second? what you finna do, try to talk them into not killing and eating animals?

@Qwadent Wow man. That's the most solid argument I've ever heard. In all my time of being vegan I never thought I could just eat ribs. But your comment was so smart it changed my life man.

Damn I would I love some bbq ribs rn yknow?


The Vegan Extremist who made a Video about is Also a Supporter of that Vegan Teacher


My man! Repping the Bible and speaking facts accept all! Keep up the content bro 💯


The way he was like “Shot in the head and slit on the throat” just made no sense, like how else do you want them to be killed? A gunshot to the head is literally the quickest and most painless way to go! On top of that, his whole “murdering animals is wrong” sentiment is dumb considering we’re biologically designed to eat both meat and plants. Thousands of wild animals are murdered brutally by other wild animals all around the world every day, it’s just the circle of life!


This channel is underrated it needs more people to see this stuff it’s too funny 😂


What’s the difference between an alligator ripping its prey to shreds and us eating a cow?


Honestly the vegan made a lot more sense in this (Im a meateater)


i love Jidion but I wish there was a smarter person to argue this dude.


He just gots to realize that his morals won't be the same as everyone else's. He acts like he's a better person because he's vegan doesn't really convince anyone to be vegan. Also I'd say plenty of hunters have no PTSD from hunting dears and what not. There is no correlations their. So killing animals doesn't necessarily mean PTSD and depression lol.


Wow so cruel to those animals! Ima go eat a Big Mac.


Jidion cant lose bro.. hes a man that goes by his own rules and that's how life is supposed to be. This is only my 2nd day watching his channel and man I look up to him not only because of his content, but his character is truly unbreakable


I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me


Vegan guy: butchers get PTSD<br>Me: i went to my grandpas house in mexico, they killed a cow, a pig, and a turkey. happiest man i ever met. good food too.

Vegan guy: butchers get PTSD
Me: i went to my grandpas house in mexico, they killed a cow, a pig, and a turkey. happiest man i ever met. good food too.


I'm not vegan but I get where the guy is coming from. I believe we should still be allowed to eat meat but minimise it to the point where we see it as a luxury food item rather than a daily thing. But at the same time, I blame the government for not promoting alternatives and not lowering the prices of those vegan alternatives. Unless the government does something about it, its useless to try and argue the current norm.

Not sure but Vegan Meat is expensive compared to Real Meat


This YouTuber don’t realize this what JiDions channel all about😂<br>Pranks and messing with people😂

This YouTuber don’t realize this what JiDions channel all about😂
Pranks and messing with people😂


I love this man JiDion but imma be honest, he kinda got rolled when he brought up the religion. Respect to both of them

@Abundance of Abundance they gon keep killing because they need fresh muscle tissue and it makes corporations hella bank. Honestly not much is going to change about it. We gon run Earth to the ground until The second coming of Jesus. Humans just don’t have the wisdom and power to change and fix anything on a major level, that’s why we create more problems than solving them.

Who actually cares though they’re animals

Hunting and sacrifices can be a spiritual practice & for survival for sure. However, TODAY we live in a world where we don’t have to kill due to mass meat cooperations. The deaths are already unbalanced.


I'm not vegetarian or anything but it is true that those bad things are happening to animals. It's really more about how you view the importance of animal lives and also how bad you care about the meat industry impacting climate change.

For me I try to eat less beef / red meat less mainly for climate/health reasons but I still enjoy meat


I'm sorry if they "care for animals" they would have cows themselves in there own pasture. I have cows in my pasture and there super yummy.

But the point I'm getting to is that, if he cares about animals so much then why doesn't he take care of them himself.


Bro tried comparing eating food to sexual harassment


Personally it's not cool to kill animals but we are omnivores. It's nature. Can we survive without meat sure but humans have eaten meat continuously forever. There was never a time when we weren't omnivores or if there was it was long long before now.

Vegans have a point about treating animals humanely. We should. I totally agree with them.


I can now say I’ve seen the none hilarious side of jidion


i honestly woulda mentioned the fact that animals eat other animals too so this discussion seems lowkey pointless to me  when it’s just part of our natural food chain.


Does the vegan guy realize he has a goat pic for his podcast 💀


lol its not that hard to conclude things regarding Vegans. Just go back 10000 years afo how humans had to survive, by hunting animals. Just like animals eat animals, we as humans also eat animals, and you even have animals that eat humans. However, we are not living in that age anymore, so now we could debate wether the way these animals are being mass slaughtered for food production, if thats the right way. Thats another story, but saying that humans should not kill animals for food to surbive is a bit strange.


I’m a 14 year old Vegan and I care about animals But I mind my own business and don’t try to force people to go vegan like this dude


As soon as he’s talking about animals dying, I’m over here eating a hotdog sandwich


In the Christian religion yes we did have to sacrifice a lamb every time we sin and Jesus sacrificed his life for our sins so we don’t need to do that anymore


dude rlly tried to make up a fake human animal to ask him if hed kill it or nah


You should’ve asked him if he believed in evolution because the human brain grew larger when our ancestors started eating cooked meat


Bruh then there is me a guy in a Mexican family raising cows and chickens then killing them and eating the bomb azz food lol 😂


This video is so inspiring it made my friend stop being vegan

@Atte Rahikkala Sorry for getting you upset. Oh and btw, im eating a hamburger as we’re speaking. 😋 🍔

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur I'm starting to understand now. You can't ethically justify your meat eating, and now that you couldn't answer the question about caring reveals that there in fact is a side of you which cares about the suffering of the animals and you know you are doing wrong. It's completely natural, like I said a child would want to play with all of them, cows, pigs, chickens, dogs and cats. A child would be terrified to see any of them suffer or to be killed. Hating cows, pigs and chicken and ignoring their suffering is completely learned behavior. Vegans make you get back the natural compassion inside of you. And since the compassion goes against your meat addiction, you try to cope your cognitive dissonance by insulting the vegans. That's what your vegan hate is about - you don't want to hear the truth.

You don't have to prove me anything, you don't have to respond. I wish you the all the best for the deep reflection you are going through and hopefully you will reconnect with your nature and do what the animals would want you to do.

@Atte Rahikkala yeah I’m still gonna eat steak and chicken. End of discussion. Sorry.

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur So you do care about dogs and cats, interesting. Most likely about humans too then even though you didn't answer the question. So what is it about dogs and cats that makes you care for them? Cows, pigs and chickens are fundamentally exactly the same with dogs and cats. They all have a nervous system, they can all suffer and feel pain, they all want to live and their level of intelligence is about the same. A child wouldn't know to choose to only play with dogs and cats, a child would want to play with them all. So again, why do you care about dogs and cats? I'm simply trying to understand

@Atte Rahikkala unfortunately it happens with dogs and cats too. I don’t like it but it happens. However, I still will eat chicken and beef. Sometimes pork. Once again, you’re not gonna change my mind. Sorry 🤷🏻♂

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur Would you care if dogs were tortured and slaughtered for food? Or would you care if they were humans? I'm trying to understand your position

@Atte Rahikkala hopefully they can reincarnate to human in the next life :)

@Atte Rahikkala besides their suffering ends once they die. So it’s all good

@just anotherdud for real though I just want to eat in peace lmao

@Atte Rahikkala I don’t care about the slaughtering and the suffering. As long as I get my burger I’m all good with it. Once again, sorry. 🤷🏻♂

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur I know and it's ridiculous 🤣

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur Again, your apology to me means nothing because I'm not the victim. Just to be clear, the slaughtering part is only one part of the exploitation. It's the suffering they experience through their whole life what is worst. You don't care about the slaughter but do you care about the suffering? If not, why?

@Atte Rahikkala I eat what I want. I know animals get slaughtered for food and I personally don’t care. Sorry 🤷🏻♂

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur Don't apologize to me, I'm not the victim. Do you think that you desiring to eat chicken or non-vegan burger makes it justifiable to eat those foods?

@Atte Rahikkala the thing is I get hungry and i desire chicken or a burger. There’s nothing you could do about it. Sorry 🤷🏻♂

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur Like I said veganism is not about you or the vegans. They only care about your eating because there's a victim involved. The inconvenience you experience when "vegans don't let you eat in peace" is nothing compared to the inconvenience and literal torture animals experience in factory farms.

@Atte Rahikkala because they never let me eat peace lol

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur Why do you love it when vegans get angry? Vegans are simply giving voice for the voiceless victims, they are trying to make their unnecessary suffering end. What about vegans makes you wish harm for them?

@just anotherdud most vegans think they are tho 😂

Unknown cool <b>eats an additional 5 burgers and 2 steaks since nobody asked you</b>

Unknown cool *eats an additional 5 burgers and 2 steaks since nobody asked you*

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur he not saving the planet🤣

@Dizzy no you don't lmao. Many pro athletes are 100% vegan.

You gonna stop being vegan cus of religion smh. What’s more likely geographic regions have different religions because they have all made up some bs to fit there agendas or 1 religion is correct. Believing in 1 religion means u disbelieve the 1000s of others.

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur I will try it sometime

Unknown you need certain vitamins from meat, so it’s not helping with health

@HKROW I guess the best way to get views is to eat meat in a vegan restaurant. People love it when vegans get angry

My videos are similar style to Jidion, I’m a New Youtuber and tryna hit my dream of 5k 🔥🔥

@A dog careful. The vegan will retaliate and eat 3, that’s right, 3 impossible burgers and will tell you how he’s saving the planet.

@freemit damn that sucks. Anyways <b>eats 2 burgers so the vegan thinking he's making a difference isn't making a difference</b>

@freemit damn that sucks. Anyways *eats 2 burgers so the vegan thinking he's making a difference isn't making a difference*

@freemit survival of the fittest my friend :)

@Mark Pat Joe Bill Dinosaur good on you for promoting animal slavery and cruelty


its cool to see that people i support belive in god


Them talking about not eating meat

Me eating a burger


What vegans forget is that humans are omnivores which means they literally are meant to eat animals AND plants, which is like telling a lion to stop eating zebras and antelopes


How many times did bro say shot in the heads and having their throat slit 💀


Found your channel through my boy, David. Great respectful discussion. For all the non-vegans, it’s important to recognize that almost no vegans were born vegan. I used to spend $100 on steak dinners. People don’t stop eating animals because they don’t taste good, we just realized we can eat delicious food without causing so much pain, suffering and death. A little bit of empathy is what this crazy world needs. ✌🏼💚🌱

@Dafaqq the animals are killed because people are paying to eat their dead bodies. if people didnt pay for meat and dairy, these industries wouldnt exist, its basic supply and demand.

I haven't said we are the same. but the choice is not between killing a human or an animal. its between killing an animal or eating plants. the animals doesnt wanna be abused or die, and we have no right to take their life from them. just imagine if you were in their position. vegans are so loud and "forcing" because if we wont speak about this, who will? the animals are screaming but nobody is listening to them.

@Animal Rights Main point was we have a choice but ok. Second of all y’all literally trying to force people to become vegan 😂😂😂. If they eat meat you harass them and say they’re terrible people. And I do not pay for “someone to die or be abused” the animal has already been killed by that point. I might eat animals but that doesn’t mean I agree with abusing animals, what? I eat meat, yes I simply think if you’re going to kill them, you should kill them quickly with no pain. And don’t justify killing humans using what I said about a painless death because they’re not the same. It’s way different when you kill a human than when you kill an animal and if you believe it’s the same thing then we’re done here.

@Dafaqq well you made a bunch of points for eating meat so I was simply responding. im gonna break it down really simple so you understand.
do you buy sandwiches with animal flesh or their fluids on it? cause if you do, yes: you value their life less than a sandwich! and you very much agree with how they are killed or abused. otherwise you would be vegan.

nobodys forcing you to do anything. vegans are NOT the ones forcing knives against the throats of the innocent. vegans are NOT the ones that vote with their dollars to have someone exploited and killed against their will. we are simply telling you to stop supporting it. who cares what they are killed for? its always wrong to kill, is it not? or is it OK to kill a human for food, is that seriously your point??

YOU are the one who brought up animals eat other animals. I simply asked If you would use the same justification for their other actions. seems like you dont

@Animal Rights Never said I value them less than a fucking sandwich 😂😂 never said I agree with how they’re killed or if they’re abused all I said was “if I were to turn vegan it’d be my choice not yours” because it seems like you vegans want to force everyone to eat plants which buddy it’s not going to happen. Simple as that don’t assume things, you literally make no points talking about slavery or the murder of humans when it comes to eating animals they’re not the same. You don’t kill a human for food do you? Unless you’re a cannibal but it seems like you’re vegan. And you said I get my morals from animals? Buddy you’re actually crazy 😂😂you’re bringing up all these arguments and retarded shit just because I eat meat.

@Dafaqq Of course its your choice to pay for an animal to be abused and killed for food/clothing/entertainment. Just like its my choice to personally abuse or kill a human. Is it a good choice? No. Because theres a VICTIM involved. Tradition argument doesnt hold, humanity have done lots of fucked up things in the past. Im sure you wouldnt justify slavery or murder of humans. But when its non human animals you're fine with it, cause you value their life so little, even less than a fucking sandwich.

Non human animals dont have access to supermarkets dude. They need to eat animals to survive. You dont, you can choose to eat plants instead. Besides, do you usually get your morals from animals? Do you always walk around naked, greeting people by sniffing their butts and occasionally eating your own babies? You cant justify an action because "animals do it" when you dont wanna copy anything else.

@Animal Rights Animals eat animals that how life works, yes we are omnivores but it’s a choice. Simple as that if I wanted to stop eating meat it would be my choice not yours. If I wanted to continue eating meat I will and there’s nothing you can do about it. 🤷🏼♂And that’s how most people have been raised anyways, meat is the thing mostly cooked at home from what I’ve seen. What makes it wrong for us to eat animals if other animals do it too? We’re technically animals. How’s it wrong for us to survive?

TheUnknown Ok… I’m screenshotting this convo and submitting it to the 2021 YouTube awards. Pretty sure I’ll win for being a part of the most ridiculous conversation EVER on YouTube. You literally said, “If an animal can eat other animals and we are animals, why can’t I?” Those are your words. You said that dumb shit. Then, when I pointed out how completely idiotic your statement is and called you a clown, your response was basically, I’m not a clown, you are 😂👏🏻👏🏻 Actually, you’re 100% right, I am a clown for wasting my time here 🤡 🤡🤡 I’m out.

TheUnknown Seriously?? 🤨 You’re actually suggesting humans should base our morality on the actions of wild animals?? If a lion rapes another lion, humans should rape each other too? Or if a lion kills their baby, we should kill our babies too? Robbing people is also ok, I suppose? Suggesting humans should act like wild animals in order to justify animal cruelty has to be one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard 🤡😂 We have moral agency, a lion does not.

TheUnknown If you want to try to convince a lion not to eat a zebra, go right ahead 😂 I don’t control what lions do. What I can control is that I’m not going to abuse animals that did nothing wrong to me because a lion ate a zebra in Africa. Are you actually trying to justify unnecessary violence against animals because “lions”? 🤡

@JayMaaaaan, you’re just digging your hole deeper and deeper 😂 There would be no need to release these artificially created animals if these animal abusing industries didn’t create them in the first place 🤨 That’s literally why people who are against animal abuse boycott these industries. No semi-intelligent person believes that some day 80 billion farmed animals are going to be bred by farmers in order to be released into the wild 😂😂😂 Not only do you sound like a complete doorknob every time you write something, you’re also defending animal cruelty while doing it 🤡🔫 Do yourself a favour, delete all your comments before someone screenshots them and sends them to your mom and she disowns you 😂

@AVO  If they were bred for that purpose then so what? if we were suppose to free every "forcibly bred" animal into the wild, would they survive? No dummy because out there they're literally the same thing to other predators...FOOD. I don't have to know much about it because the excuses y'all make are shit and you guys tend to make up the most unrealistic scenarios to get what y'all want.

@Jay Read your own comment 😂 You said that they suffer in the wild when they aren’t being eaten by humans. None of those animals would exist in the wild. They are forcibly bred into existence unnecessarily to be tortured and killed as babies for profit. It’s clear from your last comment that you have no clue how this industry works. I swear, the amount of people who embarrass themselves and waste time arguing about shit they no NOTHING about is astounding.

@AVO Go back to my comment and tell me when did I ever say that 80 billion pigs, chickens and cows are caught in the wild and put in factory farms. I am literally talking about how y'all see no problem with other animals eating animals but humans are where y'all draw the line. Even if they weren't eaten by us  most of them would've most likely die from natural causes, starvation and being hunted by other animals but y'all don't pay attention to that. What you're not gonna make me look like is a fool cause I know that I'm right. Y'all just want to find a reason to argue with people about what they eat.

@Jay Do you actually think that 80 billion pigs, chickens and cows are caught in the wild and put in factory farms??? 🤨😂 I'm actually blown away at how dumb some of the comments on this thread are. Seriously. I'm kinda worried for humanity.

@AVO  y'all be acting like they don't suffer as much when they're out there in the wild not being eaten by humans. If we don't eat them then trust and believe that some other predator is gonna eat them.

@AVO  y'all be acting like they don't suffer as much when they're out there in the wild not being eaten by humans. If we don't eat them then trust and believe that some other predator is gonna eat them.

@AVO My point just flew right over your head because we also need meat, we need protein because it is essential to our diet so I don't know how tf you got rape and murder out of what I said. Most of you vegans have to be taking supplements just so y'all don't get sick because y'all lack protein smh.

@AVO No, they don’t. Nobody slits a pig’s throat lmao. Generally it is decaptitation or electrocution. I don’t know what Bandladesh farms you are talking aboit

@AVO No, they don’t. Nobody slits a pig’s throat lmao. Generally it is decaptitation or electrocution. I don’t know what Bandladesh farms you are talking aboit

@Blank Man Animals don’t have their throats slit in slaughterhouses ?? I’m starting to see your point about some animals not thinking 😂 You know you could just use google instead of relying on strangers on YouTube to teach you things 😂😂😂

@Blank Man Animals don’t have their throats slit in slaughterhouses ?? I’m starting to see your point about some animals not thinking 😂 You know you could just use google instead of relying on strangers on YouTube to teach you things 😂😂😂

@AVO so you tell me that insects think because they have brains? No lmao, they follow instincts and pheromones. Dumbass bro… we can think so much more deeply than animals. We are significantly more intelligent than ANY animal. Bro you don’t. Get it 😂

@Blank Man What?? 😂😂😂 First, humans are animals (mammals). And yes, animals do think, that’s what a brain is for. Not only are many nonhuman animals quite smart, they also have emotions and feel pain and suffering much like we do. Did you skip biology class in school or something? I’m not exaggerating when I say that your comment has to be one of the dumbest comments I’ve ever seen on YouTube. Seriously, you should get a prize. 😂😂😂

@AVO bro animals don’t think. They have instincts. They can’t process things like us. Fuck, even bugs do their best to live lol. Its instincts. We have instincts too, but the free will to take over those. Sure some animals are smart, but it just isn’t what you make it out to be.

@AVO their throats aren’t slit lol. Generally it’s either a decapitation or electrocution lol

@AVO their throats aren’t slit lol. Generally it’s either a decapitation or electrocution lol

@Jay 1. I think more people should be upset about animal abuse and unnecessary cruelty/violence. 2. That's a pretty goofy thing to say... the animals you mentioned don't have moral agency 😂 Plus, wild animals are in survival mode, they don't have grocery stores.

Are you actually suggesting our morality should be based on what wild animals do?? Do you support legalizing rape and murder because wild animals do those things?? 🤨

@AVO Y'all stay mad at us for eating animals but what about other predators like lions, cheetahs, alligators, eagles, snakes and the many other apex predators that hunt animals every second? what you finna do, try to talk them into not killing and eating animals?

@Animal Rights Y'all stay mad at us for eating animals but what about other predators like lions, cheetahs, alligators, eagles, snakes and the many other apex predators that hunt animals every second? what you finna do, try to talk them into not killing and eating animals?

@AVO are you serious? You believe that pretty much every animal is abused before it’s killed? The vegan propaganda has really gotten to you. Most places don’t abuse the animals at all.<br>A cow is not capable of thinking at that high of a level. Can’t believe that has to be explained. And I already gave my reasoning. We were MADE to eat meat. And if we were as dumb as animals, we would definitely be eating meat because we wouldn’t be able to think about high level things such as morality. So just because we’re smart and can come up with a reason to not eat animals doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. You could come up with a reason why I don’t NEED to shit in the toilet, but I’m still gonna shit in the toilet. We don’t NEED to most things that we do, but we still do them. So the argument of “if you don’t NEED to, why do it?” is very weak.

@AVO are you serious? You believe that pretty much every animal is abused before it’s killed? The vegan propaganda has really gotten to you. Most places don’t abuse the animals at all.
A cow is not capable of thinking at that high of a level. Can’t believe that has to be explained. And I already gave my reasoning. We were MADE to eat meat. And if we were as dumb as animals, we would definitely be eating meat because we wouldn’t be able to think about high level things such as morality. So just because we’re smart and can come up with a reason to not eat animals doesn’t mean we shouldn’t. You could come up with a reason why I don’t NEED to shit in the toilet, but I’m still gonna shit in the toilet. We don’t NEED to most things that we do, but we still do them. So the argument of “if you don’t NEED to, why do it?” is very weak.

@shoobadoo123Ok, so where do 99.9% of animals live if not in horrible, abusive conditions in factory farms around the world? Do you have any clue what you’re talking about? 🙄🔫

And what makes you think that a cow doesn’t value her life as much as you do? Of course, your life is more important to you, and there’s nothing wrong with caring about humans, but that doesn’t justify abusing and killing animals unnecessarily. Can you actually come up with any valid reason to harm and kill animals when we have absolutely no need to??

@AVO 99.9% of animals are abused before they are killed? Bullshit 😂<br>If I were an animal, then sure. As long as I get a quick death and am not abused beforehand. But I am a human and human lives are infinitely more valuable

@AVO 99.9% of animals are abused before they are killed? Bullshit 😂
If I were an animal, then sure. As long as I get a quick death and am not abused beforehand. But I am a human and human lives are infinitely more valuable

@shoobadoo123 You wouldn’t be saying that if you had ever spent a few hours inside a factory farm (where 99.9% of farmed animals live). But even worse than abusing them is killing them. Would you trade places with them? If not, then you clearly recognize it’s fucked up.

@AVO they are killed quickly but they are not abused so don’t worry

@AVO they are killed quickly but they are not abused so don’t worry

@shoobadoo123 Wait… so animals aren’t forced into slaughterhouses and have their throats slit unnecessarily for any of the animal products you buy??

@shoobadoo123 Wait… so animals aren’t forced into slaughterhouses and have their throats slit unnecessarily for any of the animal products you buy??

@AVO you act like every meat place abuses animals. Most do not. Also I make sure the companies I buy from don’t do any of that stuff.

@AVO you act like every meat place abuses animals. Most do not. Also I make sure the companies I buy from don’t do any of that stuff.

@shoobadoo123 You can’t be against animal abuse while paying for it. And if you’ve actually been inside of several factory farms and slaughterhouses and think that what happens in those places isn’t abuse and cruelty, then just ask yourself if you would trade places with them. That’s the way to know if something is right or wrong. If you wouldn’t want it done to you, then you shouldn’t do it to others.

@AVO yea I know about all that stuff and obviously I don’t condone any of it. As long as it’s a quick death and living conditions are good during their lifetimes, it’s not hurting/abusing them. And don’t worry I would never try to convince anyone to harm animals because I am against animal abuse

@Animal Rights human life is more valuable so no you can’t. And again I don’t hurting or abusing animals. A quick death is not hurting them. we’re omnivores because we evolved that way. Nature dictated that we need both meat and nonmeat for a healthy diet. Everything about the human body shows that. Our teeth. Our taste buds LOVING the taste of meat. Our whole digestive track. We are able to eat meat for a reason

@Assassin 9958 Anyone with a decent set of morals is a hypocrite in one way or another. Claiming that our inherent imperfection means we should be indifferent toward the unnecessary pain, suffering, and death of other sentient beings is a very slippery slope.

@AVO nice flip flop between perfection and imperfection to suit your whims and avoid your hypocrisy

@AVO nice flip flop between perfection and imperfection to suit your whims and avoid your hypocrisy

@Assassin 9958 Do I really have to explain this for the gajillionth time?? Ffs. I have a thousand food options where animals aren’t abused and/or killed. I have zero options for a phone without traces of animal products. Once animals are no longer killed en masse for food, I’m certain they’ll find other solutions for phone screens, car tires, bills (currency), etc. Veganism is about reducing harm to animals where possible and practicable. We cause harm just by simply existing… doesn’t mean we have to kill ourselves to reduce our impact on others 😂🤡

@AVO so why do you pay for technology that contains cholesterol from animal agriculture

@AVO so why do you pay for technology that contains cholesterol from animal agriculture

@shoobadoo123 Some do, but many get boiled alive, put in gas chambers, beaten, and electrocuted before being killed. I know this because I’ve seen dozens of hours of hidden camera footage, and I’ve also been to dozens of slaughterhouses and farms around the world. How many slaughterhouses and factory farms have you been to?

And, more importantly, even if animals weren’t put in tiny cages, mutilated, and abused, they’re all still having their throats slit for no good reason. Don’t waste your time, you won’t convince me to start harming animals after nine years of living an amazing life without hurting animals.

@shoobadoo123 the animals doesnt want to be exploited and die. thats the biggest problem. can I kill a human if I give them a quick death? why hurt others when we can just eat plants? we are omnivores witch means we dont NEED to eat chopped up bodyparts to survive.

the animals get a quick death. It’s not abuse. Also, people were made to eat meat. We’re omnivores. Nature WANTS us to eat meat.

the animals get a quick death. It’s not abuse. Also, people were made to eat meat. We’re omnivores. Nature WANTS us to eat meat.


Pyrocynical made a good point in one of his videos, vegan activists always pull up the argument that we're killing animals shooting them in the head and cutting their throats, he said that when people go to the store and they see bacon or chicken wings, they see them as just food, just meat, and not an animal. But if you give them a gun and tell them to go kill a pig most people would not do it. I feel like there are certain animals we are morally allowed to eat, like god created them so we could improve our health and lifestyle, like how diary products are healthy and essential, or like how chicken eggs are considered one of the healthiest meals for us. Cows, Lambs, Chickens, Pigs, Turkey etc. are imo okay to eat, unless you are muslim or jewish like i am a muslim so we can't consume pork. What we should stop is for example dog slaughter houses, which is what led to over inbred dog breeds that have difficulty even just existing, living and breathing. We shouldn't treat other animals badly, like burning down/ cutting down forests for personal interest, like the iconic blue parrots from the Rio movies no longer existing on the outside world. Point is the argument that we are killing them is as wrong as it can get, we don't see beef as Bob's Cow Larry, we see it as a piece of meat to be cooked medium rare that would go with some fine wine.


✋As a person who does not eat meat people who shame those who eat meat make me wanna eat a nice juicy burger


imagine caring what others eat when its not your body


When I found out JiDion was a Christian my respect went up for him

@Diaper Turd No It's not okay to criticize any religion. Including Christianity.

@SkaterNSpike so it’s ok to criticize Christianity but when any other religion gets criticized it’s wrong?

@Football Moments what is wrong with you criticizing other religions

@ॐ Boi he says bull crap lol he doesn’t make logical sense his view points contradict dem selves

@ॐ Boi you're literally a Hindu smh. You shouldn't even have a say in the cosmological argument. CosmicSkeptic can't even stand by his own beliefs and here you're encouraging people to watch his debates 🤔 the next minute he claims to be agnostic but then goes back to being a brainless atheist like he doesn't make any sense lol

Watch videos of CosmicSkeptic debating Christians.


There’s a reason Christians are vegan, in the Bible in one of the very early chapters in genesis, god gives Adam all animals so that he can name them and they are his to do whatever he wants with them. The Bible states that, there’s some Christian’s that are vegan and that’s fine. But there is major religions that believe in being vegan, so therefore we should not start a war. Like JD said we all have our viewpoints and we are all human when it comes down to it, we just need to set aside our differences and realize that we are family! Doesn’t matter what kind of food you eat, we’re family!


Mocking someone’s beliefs is wrong. Even if you don’t believe in veganism it is disrespectful to go to their restaurant and disrespect their beliefs. This was a horrible conversation. Dijion kept cutting him off and talking over him.


why tf is this video age restricted and how did it just let me watch it without proof


My respect for JiDion when he said he said he’s Christian📈

@Red Herring and? not everyone has to be the same :/

@Red Herring how so, he does nothing wrong, just makes fun of people. Christians are allowed to how fun lol


It’s great that you believe in what the Bible says however you gotta tighten it up fr and follow Christ and stay away from sin fr love you brudda


They both got points but we been eating meat for atleast 6 years now so its quite hard to revert it


"the Bible supports slavery" Just so people know "slave/servant" was the equivalent to saying "worker" so that causes a lot of confusion.


Bro if the world followed either the Bible, torah, or Quran, we’d be chillin. WIDION W💯💯


As a vegan for 2 years since I turned 16 I think its everyone's right to have there own lifestyle and beliefs, I love animals so I don't eat them, I like the diet , and I feel really good about it , You eat animals cus they taste good and that's that! Keep up the good ass content Jidion! all love out here, also you should try it for a week or 2 and document the experience I think that would be interesting to see, and it might make some of those extremist vegans happier lol

@GMan 10 a man of culture, I also do like eating stake.

@Radiocorrective the animals get a quick death. It’s not abuse. Also, people were made to eat meat. We’re omnivores. Nature WANTS us to eat meat.

Don't be a pick me vegan man. Either be against violence or not. Its good that you yourself aren't contributing to it but don't be hyping up other people for doing it or just easily dismissing the impact of their choice to harm others by just being like "oh yeah its all good what you do its just your lifestyle blabla".


When are we going to start to get mad at people who kill bugs?


In most of the bible when they talked about slaves you have to remember the bible was translated from the hebrew language and this had a different meaning then, a “slave” was a servant, obviously there was slaves like we are familiar with in that time frame as well, but when the bible refers to slaves it is talking about servants. correct me if i’m wrong


The goku screensaver gives me big rawdogging energy


Unintentionally watched this video while eating steak


U were really trollin mans beliefs and he was a great sport. Nice


I love how Jidion freely cusses even though he says he believes in the bible


Vegan: blah blah<br>Me: while watching the video, this chicken slaps bro🔥uh

Vegan: blah blah
Me: while watching the video, this chicken slaps bro🔥uh


Ah yes, the “oh but we’re killing animals!!! Be sympathetic!!” Mf they do the same shit to us, they kill us n eat us???!!!


jidion straight up just hugged some old lady for a one second clip


I don’t get how people treat animal lives like human lives, like what am I supposed to just let my pig eat my grass for it’s entire life ?


i think being a vegetarian is really just taboo these days. i feel bad for the animals. they got souls n emotions n shi too


Pretty sure if you look across nature morality is really a human concept so it’s a belief.


What about animals that eat other animals? That would’ve been a good question to ask him


The vegan guy is just mad he can't make meat as good as Jidion.

@UziCouldn't a gave it to him because of the stream, sadly

He’s just mad Jidion meat wasn’t in his mouth

My videos are similar style to Jidion, I’m a New Youtuber and tryna hit my dream of 5k 🔥🔥🔥


Bro progress on my niggas channel has been wild he has gained so many subs in a year and half respect 💯🔥


I believe that it is bad to cut animals and eat them and that people should change. But you should not force anyone to change and instead let themselves go through that process. I believe that eventually people will understand this and shift towards plant-based meat, but it's gonna take time because we can't change overnight.


im eating ham as a snack while I watch this


Ok, the Bible doesn’t justify slavery. In those times, “slavery” in Israel was a way for someone to repay a debt they owed with labor instead of currency. Slavery was not racially based and when the “slave” fully repaid their debt they were free to go. The Old Testament was meant to serve as a temporary means of direction for God’s followers until Jesus came and after he rose again the Old Testament was no longer meant to serve as the main way for people to earn God’s favor. God bless yall

@CLIMZYS
In the social structure of ancient Israel, physical punishment was considered the appropriate response for acts of disobedience and rebellion. The y weren’t just beating their slaves as they pleased and treated them however they wanted as a matter of fact, the verse you just quoted was one of many verses in exodus 21 that were condoning violence and setting boundaries for what was appropriate violence and unacceptable violence. Either way, the OT was a temporary means to get by until Jesus came, and once he died and rose again, the Old Testament was no longer the primary and only source for followers of God to go to heaven, but the New Testament and the commandments of Jesus replaced the Old Testament.
Hope you have a blessed day:)✝

But it justifies hitting your slaves and treating them inhumanely “When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money. Exodus 21:20


Can’t argue this plants are living things too.


Bro respect for have non an actaul conversation and not arguing the entire time we need more of this


Tbf he could’ve given a really good rebuttal to the Christianity topic by explaining that there wasn’t a means of mass murder in Bible times & the killing of animals was much more ethical & thought out.


Jidion should have said what about other animals slaughtering other animals for food. They suffer worse death than the one we humans do to put on our patty.


One of the only/biggest reasons I eat meat still is due to the fact that if the animals had the chance to eat me, they probably/most likely would. Although, the abuse is disgusting.


I worked at a poultry plant and we killed the animals in the most human way possible 😂


David Ramms made great solid points. There really is no reason for us to be killing and eating animals. If we could live a happy and healthy life without harming animals, why wouldn't we?

@ringwormboy15 yes your personal choice is to be cruel and kill animals.

@ringwormboy15 yes your personal choice is to be cruel and kill animals.

@ringwormboy15 why choose to kill animals when you can choose to be kind? Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@ringwormboy15 why choose to kill animals when you can choose to be kind? Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@Happy Cats my fault, late but nah bro what if I don’t wanna be vegan no twizzy

@Happy Cats my fault, late but nah bro what if I don’t wanna be vegan no twizzy

@ringwormboy15 looks like you don't want to answer my question. You know you can justify choosing violence and cruelty over being kind. Be kind,  be vegan

@ringwormboy15 looks like you don't want to answer my question. You know you can justify choosing violence and cruelty over being kind. Be kind,  be vegan

@Happy Cats Yessir we got the quintuple, gonna hit me with the sixtuple and prove my point again? 🤣

@Happy Cats Yessir we got the quintuple, gonna hit me with the sixtuple and prove my point again? 🤣

@ringwormboy15 answer me this: why choose violence and cruelty, when you can choose to be kind?

@ringwormboy15 answer me this: why choose violence and cruelty, when you can choose to be kind?

@Happy Cats quadruple ez ✅ when’s the quintuple?

@Happy Cats quadruple ez ✅ when’s the quintuple?

@ringwormboy15 why would want to hurt animals when you don't have to? Why choose violence and cruelty? Choose to be kind, Be vegan.

@ringwormboy15 why would want to hurt animals when you don't have to? Why choose violence and cruelty? Choose to be kind, Be vegan.

@Happy Cats triple threat check ✅

Let’s see if you can restate the same statement and prove my point at the same time for the 4th time

@Happy Cats triple threat check ✅

Let’s see if you can restate the same statement and prove my point at the same time for the 4th time

@ringwormboy15 Every single day you have a choice. Why choose to hurt animals when you don't have to? Why choose violence and cruelty? Be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 Every single day you have a choice. Why choose to hurt animals when you don't have to? Why choose violence and cruelty? Be kind, be vegan

@Happy Cats lmao goteem

You proved my point twice in a row

@Happy Cats lmao goteem

You proved my point twice in a row

@ringwormboy15 proved what point? I'm sure we can at least agree that if we can avoid harming others we should right? And if we can live kindly, then we should? Why choose to be cruel, when you can be kind? Be kind Be vegan.

@Happy Cats I think you just proved my point

@Happy Cats I think you just proved my point

@ringwormboy15 If you could live a happy and healthy life without harming anyone, why wouldn't you?

We could agree on the above right?

I'm sure you want to be a kind person. Why choose cruelty and violence when you don't have to? Be kind, be vegan.

@ringwormboy15 Your responses are very common non vegan responses, I think internally you do feel guilty for hurting animals. I really don't think you see no difference between plants and animals. Why choose to hurt animals when you can be kind? Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@Happy Cats Nah I don’t think my point is ever going to cross your mind, you probably don’t even have a response, or didn’t even read it. Might as well not argue with you anymore.

Just to let you know your attitude is not convincing people to be vegan, like I might have seriously considered being vegan until I came across you. Guilt-Tripping and blaming people for what they didn’t do isn’t how you convince people.

If this what vegans are like, I’m outta here.

@ringwormboy15 sure I do understand, your misunderstanding is quite common among non vegans. Which is why it's better to think about it as a choice to be cruel or to be kind. Choose to be kind,  be vegan 💚

@Happy Cats so from your response, I have come to the conclusion you don’t understand 🤣🤡🗿🐄🥛🐟

@Happy Cats so from your response, I have come to the conclusion you don’t understand 🤣🤡🗿🐄🥛🐟

@ringwormboy15 why choose violence and cruelty? Choose to be kind, be vegan 💚

@ringwormboy15 why choose violence and cruelty? Choose to be kind, be vegan 💚

@ringwormboy15 here's my thoughts, regardless of all that, you have a choice. Your choices are to be cruel, or to be kind. Why not choose to be kind? Be kind, be vegan

@Happy Cats dawg I lowkey said read the last paragraph, so thoughts mr.repetitive? 🗿

@Happy Cats dawg I lowkey said read the last paragraph, so thoughts mr.repetitive? 🗿

@ringwormboy15 I've already addressed all your queries. At the end of the day, you have a choice. You can choose violence and cruelty, or you can choose to be kind. Be kind, Be vegan

@Happy Cats so like do you have a copy and paste of this lmao 🤣

@Happy Cats so like do you have a copy and paste of this lmao 🤣

@ringwormboy15 Animals are our friends. If you could live happy and healthy lives without harming others, why wouldn't you? Choose to be kind, be vegan!

@ringwormboy15 Animals are our friends. If you could live happy and healthy lives without harming others, why wouldn't you? Choose to be kind, be vegan!

@ringwormboy15 Animals are our friends, why be violent and cruel when you can be kind? Choose to be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 Animals are our friends, why be violent and cruel when you can be kind? Choose to be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 Of course I read it, but you have to understand, why choose to be violent, when you can be kind? Why choose to be cruel to animals? Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@Happy Cats so did you read it or you gonna be a goober 🗿

@Happy Cats so did you read it or you gonna be a goober 🗿

@ringwormboy15 if you could live a happy and healthy life without harming others, why wouldn't you? Choose to be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 if you could live a happy and healthy life without harming others, why wouldn't you? Choose to be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 at the end of the day, you can choose to be kind. Why hurt animals when you don't have to? Be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 at the end of the day, you can choose to be kind. Why hurt animals when you don't have to? Be kind, be vegan

@Happy Cats Lmao did you even read it 🗿👍

@Happy Cats Lmao did you even read it 🗿👍

@ringwormboy15 You can choose to be kind, you don't have to be violent and cruel. Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@ringwormboy15 You can choose to be kind, you don't have to be violent and cruel. Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@Happy Cats read my last paragraph and then come back, like I feel like it flew right past you 🗿🤡

@Happy Cats read my last paragraph and then come back, like I feel like it flew right past you 🗿🤡

@ringwormboy15 You're not a tiger, you don't have to eat animals. You can choose to be kind.

When you choose to eat a chicken, you are paying someone to kill the chicken for you, that's why it is violent and cruel, and you don't have to do this.

If people stopped eating animals, animals won't be bred into existence, so the number of animals will dwindle down to nothing.

Plants are not sentient beings, so they are not conscious. They don't experience pain.

Humans can live very easily on plants only. Millions of vegans around the world prove that you can be kind, you don't have to kill animals.

Choose to be kind. Why be cruel and violent when you don't have to? Be vegan.

@ringwormboy15 Plants are not sentient, they are living things but not sentient. Why choose to be violent to sentient beings when you don't have to? Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@Happy Cats Yes, a tiger has a brain which allows it to think. Meaning, it can choose not to eat animals, but is specifically evolved to eat other animals.

I have not chosen to kill the chicken, I did not partake in folding a chicken backsavage. That’s like saying if I was on a plane, and someone hijacked it and flew into the World Trade Center, am I responsible for the hijackers actions?

If people stopped eating animals you’d have a surplus of domesticated animals since they are no longer being killed. For example, there is only a few wild cow which aren’t really wild since they are cows that have escaped captivity or been born in the wild. If they stop breeding cows and let them free, most of them will die to an environment they’ve never been exposed to since they were genetically engineered for other purposes. I guess you are right the number of farm animals would reduce, because they would be extinct. I’m pretty sure you don’t want an entire species to die.

Plants don’t want to die, they wanna spread that good good, AKA pollen, so why you still hurting sentient beings? The street goes both ways partner.

Humans have evolved to become omnivores, so what. Completely cutting out meat is an extreme, meat is not that bad, (unless it’s red) the industry is what makes it bad.  I do agree that the meat industry is cruel, and exploitable. Though, going to blame people for being violent when they aren’t and forcing veganism down their throats is pushing it. Who cares if you eat grass, plants, or shrapnel? Sharing your beliefs is great, but literally forcing people at gunpoint and guilt tripping them is not going to make people vegan. Take it easy, being a goober isn’t going to stop the meat industry, but you can still speak on it without stomping on others beliefs.

@Happy Cats Ah so you finally realize plants are sentient, yet you still partake in eating them? You are violent, their blood is on your hands. You think they wanted to die and be eaten by someone like you? Many plants are cut down and uprooted for people like you, very interesting how you want people to be kind, but partake in genocidal tendencies yourself. Very interesting, very interesting indeed.

@ringwormboy15 Plants are not conscious, they are living things, but not conscious.

You're not a tiger, you can very easily choose to be kind, and not eat animals

When you eat the chicken, you have chosen to kill the chicken. The blood is still in your hands

If you stop eating animals, they won't be bred into existence, the number of farm animals will reduce to almost nothing.

If you eat animals, the animals are brutally murdered for you. Go and watch slaughterhouse videos and ask yourself if that's violence or not.

Again, plants are not sentient beings. Plants don't feel pain and have no consciousness.

Why hurt sentient beings, when you don't have to?

Animals don't want to die, just like you don't want to die. Why choose to be violent and cruel when you don't have to?

Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@Happy Cats Ok, but they are conscious, why else would they respond to water and the sun? Why else do they reproduce? They are living beings. Plants are also selectively bred so what’s your point.

Animals have shown to have moral agency. There are many cases of animals helping other animals and species. If they have a brain, they can think, meaning they can make their own choices. They have evolved to suit their diet. I’m not gonna force a tiger to eat some salad. That’s just the food chain, it isn’t violent or cruel, it’s just life.

I am not choosing to kill a chicken, I just simply eat the chicken. It’s not violent or cruel, that’s just how it is. I’m not actively going out of my way to hurt a sentient being, it’s not like I folded it with a MP5.

It is true animals are being bred into existence but if we stop eating them, you’d just have a bunch of domesticated animals on the loose. Now, they would either be invasive or be driven to extinction since the traits that they were bred for would quickly diminish, leaving most livestock extinct.
And I called it in advance, I knew you would hit me with the, “choose to be kind be vegan🗿”.

I also feel like you don’t understand the definition of violence. The definition is “using or involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.” I did not go out of my way to kill livestock.

Also, by your logic, why choose to kill another sentient being (plant) and be cruel when you don’t have to. Why hurt plants when you don’t want to?

Let people eat what they want, being vegan is for self-improvement, and the betterment of livestock right? So don’t shove veganism down other people’s throat.

@ringwormboy15 all your arguments are easily debunked. If you pay attention, you will understand.

Animals are currently bred into existence. If you stop eating them, they won't be bred into existence, and therefore you won't have domestic animals in the wild

If you eat chicken, you are choosing to kill a sentient being for your taste pleasure. Why choose to be violent, and cruel when you don't have to?

Plants have no brains, and no nervous system, and therefore is not conscious and does not feel pain

Carnivore animals have no choice, and no moral agency. But you do, you can choose to be a kind and moral person. Why choose to be cruel and violent instead?

Choose to be kind, why hurt animals when you don't have to? Be vegan.

@Happy Cats You did not counter or explain my argument, what do you want for the animals? Freedom? You want domesticated animals to go into land they’ve never been to? That would mess up ecosystems, and they’d most likely get folded backsavage by a predator.

Also, eating meat does not make you a horrible person. Like if I eat chicken, I’m not some godawful person who is a danger to society.

Again, plants do have receptors that sense when they are being disturbed, meaning that they do feel you disturbing them. While they do not feel pain like us, they are still sentient.

Lemme just ask this carnivore lion to stop hurting and eating other animals. You don’t diss on animals for not being vegan, so why care?

P.S: I know you gonna hit me with that “choose to be vegan be kind”. So in advance, just don’t. You’re being repetitive and not actually answering my questions:

@ringwormboy15 I also explained but you're not understanding. At the end of the day, you can choose to be cruel, or you can choose to be kind. Be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 I also explained but you're not understanding. At the end of the day, you can choose to be cruel, or you can choose to be kind. Be kind, be vegan

@Happy Cats I just explained and you’re basically saying the same thing, and your ignoring my previous argument. So gonna answer or you gonna say “cHoOse tO bE vEgAn be kInD”. 🗿

@ringwormboy15 Plants have no brains and nervous system, so can't feel pain. Why choose to be violent when you can be kind? Be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 Plants have no brains and nervous system, so can't feel pain. Why choose to be violent when you can be kind? Be kind, be vegan

@Happy Cats Again, you totally ignore my previous argument because you have no answer. Plants when uprooted, cut, etc, their receptors send signals to their cells to let them know they are being perturbed. Now can you answer my argument?

@ringwormboy15 plants have no nervous system and no brain, so have no consciousness. Stop hurting animals, choose to be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 plants have no nervous system and no brain, so have no consciousness. Stop hurting animals, choose to be kind, be vegan

@Happy Cats you kind just ignored the rest of my argument, but yes they do feel pain, albeit not in the same way humans do.

@Happy Cats you kind just ignored the rest of my argument, but yes they do feel pain, albeit not in the same way humans do.

@ringwormboy15 plants don't have a brain, so they don't feel pain. Stop hurting animals, choose to be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 plants don't have a brain, so they don't feel pain. Stop hurting animals, choose to be kind, be vegan

@Happy Cats wanna bet? Plants feel pain but you still eat them. Animals feel pain. What’s the difference? Are you gonna let tons of domesticated animals out into the wild, and let them get folded by a predator? Also if you want people to be kind, why do other carnivores eat each other, want them to eat plants too?

@ringwormboy15 animals are not able to give consent. Choose to be kind, be vegan

@ringwormboy15 animals are not able to give consent. Choose to be kind, be vegan

@Happy Cats yo what if I ask the animals for consent, I’m happy to burn down a forest and drop kick a chicken.

@Happy Cats yo what if I ask the animals for consent, I’m happy to burn down a forest and drop kick a chicken.

@ringwormboy15 hmm, that means you like being hurt, which is okay if that's what you like, but you don't have to hurt others. Especially if they don't give you consent

@ringwormboy15 not sure why you would want to be violent. Choose to be kind, animals are our friends.

@ringwormboy15 not sure why you would want to be violent. Choose to be kind, animals are our friends.

@Happy Cats Hell yeah! Imma go beat up some cows 🦾🐄

@Happy Cats Hell yeah! Imma go beat up some cows 🦾🐄

@ringwormboy15 sure if it's self defence.

@ringwormboy15 sure if it's self defence.

@Happy Cats But what if you want to cause pain intentionally? Can I still be vegan?

@Happy Cats But what if you want to cause pain intentionally? Can I still be vegan?

@ringwormboy15 as a vegan I have a varied diet, one that does not kill, and harm sentient beings unnecessarily. Choose to be kind, stop hurting animals and be vegan

@ringwormboy15 as a vegan I have a varied diet, one that does not kill, and harm sentient beings unnecessarily. Choose to be kind, stop hurting animals and be vegan

@Happy Cats I am you’re just mad that I have a varied diet.

@Happy Cats I am you’re just mad that I have a varied diet.

@ringwormboy15 it's not vegan if you're eating animals. Choose to be kind, stop hurting animals, and be vegan.

@ringwormboy15 it's not vegan if you're eating animals. Choose to be kind, stop hurting animals, and be vegan.

@Happy Cats Yes, I’m vegan but I’m decided that it’s too bland and needs thing to spice it up. I will revolutionize the vegan industry. So, I started eating chicken in my veggie wraps, sometimes I put some beef in my rice bowls, and put tuna in my salad. <br>  It’s honestly a pretty diverse diet, I wonder why vegans haven’t tried stuff like this before?

@Happy Cats Yes, I’m vegan but I’m decided that it’s too bland and needs thing to spice it up. I will revolutionize the vegan industry. So, I started eating chicken in my veggie wraps, sometimes I put some beef in my rice bowls, and put tuna in my salad.
  It’s honestly a pretty diverse diet, I wonder why vegans haven’t tried stuff like this before?

@ringwormboy15 okay, good to hear you're vegan. Thanks for choosing to be kind  to animals.

@ringwormboy15 okay, good to hear you're vegan. Thanks for choosing to be kind  to animals.

@Happy Cats I feel like you still don’t understand. I just became a vegan. I’m just a methodical vegan trying things that have never been done before.

Also I’m masochistic.

@ringwormboy15 yeah, I mean, let's choose not to hurt anyone when you don't have to. Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@ringwormboy15 yeah, I mean, let's choose not to hurt anyone when you don't have to. Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@Happy Cats I just said was going to be vegan. I’m hurting both species along the way, pain is equality ✊

@Happy Cats I just said was going to be vegan. I’m hurting both species along the way, pain is equality ✊

@ringwormboy15 yeah, why destroy and kill when you can choose to be kind? stop hurting animals and sentient beings. Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@ringwormboy15 yeah, why destroy and kill when you can choose to be kind? stop hurting animals and sentient beings. Choose to be kind, be vegan.

@Happy Cats Oh nah, you’re not picking up what I’m putting down. I will uproot those smug plants and raze terror among their species. I will take out entire ecosystems, grazing on their lifeless, wilted husks. I will pollute oceans with mountains of nightshade, belladonna berries and other undesignated fruits and vegetables. I will ruin as many ecosystems as I can, they will soon fear me, Ringwormboy15. My reign of veganism has just begun.

And maybe, when I’m done, I’ll enjoy a nice steak dinner. I’m all for equality, plants and animals both deserve pain. Also, meat is tasty fr, like chicken deserves more credit.

@ringwormboy15 yes, Plants don't care if you harm them or not, so that's okay. As for the environment, you will actually be helping the environment.

@ringwormboy15 yes, Plants don't care if you harm them or not, so that's okay. As for the environment, you will actually be helping the environment.

@Happy Cats actually you’ve changed my view points. I’m going to become vegan specifically to harm plants and the environment.

Thank you for enlightening me ❤✊

@Happy Cats actually you’ve changed my view points. I’m going to become vegan specifically to harm plants and the environment.

Thank you for enlightening me ❤✊

@Milf Muncher good as in taste good? Why kill animals for your own personal taste pleasure? You can get vegan options that taste just as good, without killing animals.

@Milf Muncher good as in taste good? Why kill animals for your own personal taste pleasure? You can get vegan options that taste just as good, without killing animals.

@ringwormboy15 you can buy vegan chicken made from plants, taste the same, no animals needfully killed.

@ringwormboy15 you can buy vegan chicken made from plants, taste the same, no animals needfully killed.

@freddysanford All animals are deserving of our kindness. Why love one but eat the other? All animals suffer the same, regardless of whether they are a dog or a pig.

@freddysanford All animals are deserving of our kindness. Why love one but eat the other? All animals suffer the same, regardless of whether they are a dog or a pig.

@freddysanford All vegans are saying is that if you don't have to cause suffering to animals, why do it? For your own taste pleasure?

@freddysanford All vegans are saying is that if you don't have to cause suffering to animals, why do it? For your own taste pleasure?

@Happy Cats bad argument. Your attached to your pet, you love your pet, you even feed your pet beef so it can eat, you dot eat your pet so you dont think of it as a meat source.

@sayajin Do you see dogs or cats the same way? Just a protein source?

@sayajin Do you see dogs or cats the same way? Just a protein source?

@Happy Cats I can't see them animals as being more than a protein source for me,I'm comfortable and happy with my food habits as how they are and I'm very sure it's gonna stay that way.<br>But with that said,I respect your beliefs and appreciate you for doing what you think is right for the animals,props to you for that.

@Happy Cats I can't see them animals as being more than a protein source for me,I'm comfortable and happy with my food habits as how they are and I'm very sure it's gonna stay that way.
But with that said,I respect your beliefs and appreciate you for doing what you think is right for the animals,props to you for that.

@BlackCobra there is no way any vegan can force you to go vegan, just like how no one can force you to be a non racist, or non child abuser. Vegans merely point out that if you're not vegan, then you're abusing animals, and that's an immoral thing to do.

@sayajin most of every single vegan used to eat meat, and what you said "taste" and "satiety" are what all of us have overcome. And they are really non issues. Taste - vegan foods are amazing if you give it a chance. If you crave the meaty taste, you can get it from fake meats. "satiety" - this is simple, eat larger portions until you're full. <br>Vegans simple have realized that an animal's life is worth more than simple problems like taste and convenience,  and I can guarantee you, that it's really easy to be vegan. You just need to form new habits and you'll soon be regretting why you haven't gone vegan sooner

@sayajin most of every single vegan used to eat meat, and what you said "taste" and "satiety" are what all of us have overcome. And they are really non issues. Taste - vegan foods are amazing if you give it a chance. If you crave the meaty taste, you can get it from fake meats. "satiety" - this is simple, eat larger portions until you're full.
Vegans simple have realized that an animal's life is worth more than simple problems like taste and convenience,  and I can guarantee you, that it's really easy to be vegan. You just need to form new habits and you'll soon be regretting why you haven't gone vegan sooner

No people have choices.. you have no Authority over what other people choice to eat

No people have choices.. you have no Authority over what other people choice to eat

@Cameron MacDonald for us meat lovers it's not that simple,first is the taste,you cant beat the flavor that meat provides,and it makes us full too,proteins take longer to digest,if I go vegan I'll be starving frequently

@GlitchedExploiter_YT There's lots of nutrients in meat, but there's also lots of nutrients in vegetables, and more of the really important nutrients in vegetables.

@GlitchedExploiter_YT There's lots of nutrients in meat, but there's also lots of nutrients in vegetables, and more of the really important nutrients in vegetables.

@ElClashh Depends what you mean by "rare". The NBA alone has Kyrie Irving, Chris Paul, Tobias Harris, JaVale McGee, among many others who are all vegan. Some of the strongest men on the planet, who enter strong men competitions are vegan.

@Cameron MacDonald idk I feel like there's a reason elite vegan athletes are rare. And then lots  nutritionists that say a plant based diet is the best still eat fish/chicken.

@Cameron MacDonald so your saying there isn't much nutrients in meat but there's more in vegetables?

@Cameron MacDonald so your saying there isn't much nutrients in meat but there's more in vegetables?

@GlitchedExploiter_YT every single nutrient you need is found in plants. And almost always in greater quantities per calorie. Also for significantly less money.

@GlitchedExploiter_YT every single nutrient you need is found in plants. And almost always in greater quantities per calorie. Also for significantly less money.

@Kids Snyder ik it isnt good to eat meat your whole life which is why I mix things up, I eat vegetables and meat and btw I am also christian and your point is so right since it's actually from the bible

It's not good to not eat meat ur whole life and in the Bible idk if ur religious but God said he put animals on the earth so we can eat them

It's not good to not eat meat ur whole life and in the Bible idk if ur religious but God said he put animals on the earth so we can eat them

Oh so you want us to stop eating animals so us humans get sick because we lack nutrition yeaaa ok....

Oh so you want us to stop eating animals so us humans get sick because we lack nutrition yeaaa ok....


He’s saying we would eat people who are almost human if we could. It’s not like we eat every animal who eats dogs and elephants


The bible does not justify slavery, it does mention slavery because at the time the bible was written slavery was common, and the person in the bible that addresses slavery says that God says anyone who harms a slave should set him free, and that you should respect and treat a slave equal. Also, it says in the bible that god freed thousands of people from slavery. So, no the bible doesn't support slavery

Mark Wilson just look at the evidence in the world that supports what the bible says, im not telling you to take my word for it.


It’s my last day of summer and all I did all day was binge watch JiDion videos.

good luck going back to school. tomorrow is my last day, and id do the same but I've already seen them all. I'm dreading going back so much.

My videos are similar style to Jidion, I’m a New Youtuber and tryna hit my dream of 5k 🔥


Discussion was nice and all but feel like there wasnt a really an proper acknowledgment about going to a vegan restaurant and cooking meat is just wrong. People have the right to different beliefs and safe spaces to practice those beliefs if they’re not harmful


I see where you're coming from JiDion. Two things hypothetical can be as extreme as you want, it's used to point out contradictions in aspects of your moral framework, 2nd would you be alright with mass slaughter of dogs (which isn't even unrealistic in China for example) because god says it's alright to eat animals?

@Jake Exactly right. It's also expected that people share strong bonds with theri own race and have some inherent level of racism. The question may then become whether we think these prejudices should govern our morals to the extent where we  cause mass suffering to other individuals for some pleasure and/or convenience. I feel veganism is overdetermined in most people's values

dogs coevolved with humans, as hunting partners and protection. it's to be expected that humans have a closer bond with dogs than other animals.


Vegan guy was speaking facts about the bible


It’s like going into a feminist restaurant and being a man


I liked how they talked it out. Respect.


Animals are LITERALLY alive for our consumption


animals literally kill other animals it’s the food chain😂


Wait the vegan guy had headphones which has leather on it???


What if the cow or pig was already dead? Does that make it a bad thing if it’s already died without you killing it?


‘’Animals are getting shoot in the head’’ didn’t know they had cow hostages


bruh why is JiDion lowkey smart he has the fastest comebacks and he can win any argument

There is literally no winnable argument against veganism. Just look at Joey Carbstrongs youtube channel of hundreds of debates. 99.9% of people are against animal abuse and uncessary killing. As long as you believe this and are still not vegan than you are a hypocrit.

@AML academy nah jidion won even tho they were kinda being friendly he was able to fight everything the vegan dude said


When you realize in nature animals slaughter each other in order to survive 😮

Right without it there might just be a crap ton of animals all over the place but they it should be done as humane as possible.


I find it weird how people always forget to say that for millions of years and evolution it was normal for carnivores and omnivores to eat each other and survive by doing that. Aninals eat other animals constantly, and since humans and types of monkey evolves basically from the same ancestor, aren't we a type of animal as well?


Do they realize that plants are technically living life forms too. They tryna make you eat air or sum😂😂😂

Animals kill animals what do we do cancel those animals and tell them to become vegan?


i watched this entire video eating peperoni pizza and wings


Jidion is actually really good at debating


Also, they don't shoot them in the head that would cost way to much, and there death is painless.


I'm not vegan and not going vegan but the vegan her has a point when he says the Bible was written thousands of year's ago because now God sent hi son to sacrifice himself for our sins so now we don't have to sacrifice a lamb


"nah i just wanna be on my gordon ramsay shit"


Yk I actually thought JiDion was gonna mess around during the pod cast and just crack jokes and keep it cool, then it ended up getting pretty serious and a discussion went down.


You barely even let the man speak Jidion. That wasn't really a conversation as much as it was a rant.


Atleast the man said no to his women moaning about doing it the next day.


I was 8 when I skinned my first deer I ate it and it was so good and I still skin animals


Rule 1 of the Universe:

In order for something to live, something else has to die.


Crazy how far you’ve come man 😭, ogs, this is our moment!

Yuhhh the road to 500k is crushed and so is the 1mil one 😂


For Vegans they sure are filled with Beef!🙏


I'm not a vegan but I will say this. A ton of people grew up in a religious household and we were told "Animals have no souls".. these same people grew out of the religion but decided to keep that belief that animals have no souls.. the truth is the animals are just less intelligent, but they still feel pain/suffer and even tho I do eat meat (and i have tried going off it, and it resulted in me feeling very ill) I do hate the idea of slaughter houses and what happens to these poor animals.

U can be perfectly healthy without eating any animals. U just need to have a well planed diet. Make sure u get all the different plants u need to reach all nutrients needed. Also any major change to your diet takes time for your gut bacteria to adjust.


Yo call up that vegan teacher she gon hate you


"the Bible supports slavery" <b>pretends to ignore the fact that Moses freed thousands Israelite slaves from the Egyptians</b>

"the Bible supports slavery" *pretends to ignore the fact that Moses freed thousands Israelite slaves from the Egyptians*

@yuh yuh that’s a damn lie, the Bible never encourages you to literally BEAT A SLAVE TO DEATH, the Bible Doesn’t condemns slavery but it didn’t outright say it was wrong either, slaves master were to treat their slaves with compassion and respect, and the slaves to their master as well. It is also important to note that majority of slaves back then were slaves because they owed someone something and couldn’t pay the price, so now they work their time.

@yuh yuh and also moses isnt just a “guy” hes a very special persom

@yuh yuh and also moses isnt just a “guy” hes a very special persom

It says in the גמרה that you cant hurt a slave, but you could have one as long as you treat the slave in a humane way

It says in the גמרה that you cant hurt a slave, but you could have one as long as you treat the slave in a humane way

@Yurzys
The Christian Mythos was written by a fictional deity via ghost writers though? Anything told through there by virtue is being told the the Jehovah character.

Iirc, Jesus is supposed to be said deity itself, though not all fans interrupt the lore the same.

@A very very very specific name <br>So god messed up initially, got it 👍

@A very very very specific name
So god messed up initially, got it 👍

@yuh yuh please cite where you think Jesus said that for me.

@yuh yuh please cite where you think Jesus said that for me.

@LegionOfGod David Smith gives no examples lol

@LegionOfGod David Smith gives no examples lol

@LegionOfGod Google it - it’s all online to research and study 👍🏼 The Bible is amazing, but it’s a piece of historical literature and art and nothing more. It’s pretty f’d up in a lot of parts too. But it makes sense - it was written super long ago. Times have changed.

Don’t even try to defend the Bible lol. There are plenty more examples of how ducked up it is.

Don’t even try to defend the Bible lol. There are plenty more examples of how ducked up it is.

@yuh yuh no it doesn’t what bible are you reading

@yuh yuh no it doesn’t what bible are you reading

@LegionOfGod Black individuals were also slaves to each other, along with Asians, white individuals, etc.

@LegionOfGod Black individuals were also slaves to each other, along with Asians, white individuals, etc.

@yuh yuh that’s a different Slavery not the slavery Whites did to the blacks 🤦🏽♂🤦🏽♂

@yuh yuh that’s a different Slavery not the slavery Whites did to the blacks 🤦🏽♂🤦🏽♂

@yuh yuh "slavery" back then isn't the slavery you're thinking of.  They were employees.  Back then they called employees slaves.  You would also be considered a slave if you had to work for someone to pay them back for debt

while bible has a lot of questionable things slavery isnt one fo them

while bible has a lot of questionable things slavery isnt one fo them

@Yurzys thank you, someone actually knows

@Yurzys thank you, someone actually knows

@Gggfightklub no slaves was something completely different there were different types such as bond servants debtors

@Gggfightklub no slaves was something completely different there were different types such as bond servants debtors

@Ramiro Esparza  Read the bible Jesus came to unite both Jews and Gentiles. Today's Jewish people are not the same Jewish people of Mose's days that is for sure, for one they never had a big skin cancer problem back then.

He freed Jewish slaves and only Jewish slaves. Because Jews wee Yahweys chosen people. The non Jewish slaves Moses could care less about.

@Yurzys Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ” which is Paul instructing slaves to obey their master. This is one of the ones supporting slaver. dude said jesus supported it and that’s not true, but their are verses in the Bible in support of slavery. These verses were used in the antebellum US to get black people to be subservient to their white slave owners. So yes their are verses in the Bible used to support slavery, and there are also verses condemning it. Such is the contradictory nature of the holly book.

@Peeb you are honestly disingenuous just because a protestant hebrew uses the bible to justify slavery doesnt mean the true church and her teachers are flawed you are not a christian at all your an evangelical or protestant who separated from the one true Orthodox church no one here should care for their interpretations of verses even if your interpretation is 99.99 percent correct the church fathers interpretation will always be superior to what you think.

@yuh yuh  You are probably getting the Quran mixed with the bible, Jesus came to set slaves of many kind free.

@yuh yuh  You are probably getting the Quran mixed with the bible, Jesus came to set slaves of many kind free.

yup, and it's really talking about "servants" not slaves. people who had debts they couldn't pay off had the option to become a servant to pay it instead.

@islu! i read all your shit perfectly but the verse I referred to was used to justify slavery as bible verses are used now to justify prejudice against gay people.

@Peeb Work on your reading comprehension bro

@Peeb Work on your reading comprehension bro

@islu! bro but the verse i reffered to is in the actual bible

@islu! bro but the verse i reffered to is in the actual bible

@Peeb Slave owners literally created a separate “bible” that was missing half of the text. You can’t blame that on the Bible. That’s just the slave holders being evil.

none of that changes the fact that american slave owners still used it to justify slavery. also "kind of Christian" as in open to the idea of a deity or higher power existing, but there is more than likely not to be disrespectful or anything.

@Peeb Look up the etymology of the word slave in the Greek. It’s not chattel slavery like what we had in America. It’s indentured servitude. People often sold themselves into slavery to pay off debts.

Exodus 21:16
“Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.”

1 Timothy 1:8-10
“Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, *enslavers*, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine.”

Chattel slavery is condemned.

Also you can’t be kind of a Christian. It’s either you are, or you aren’t. You can’t kinda be saved. It’s black or white.

@islu! Ephesians 6:5-8 Paul states, “Slaves, be obedient to your human masters with fear and trembling, in sincerity of heart, as to Christ” which is Paul instructing slaves to obey their master." I'm also kind of christian btw.

@Peeb slaves had heavily edited bibles because the Bible’s message is about redemption and freedom. If slaves learned about Moses they would’ve rebelled even sooner.

Also it’s not homophobic to think homosexuality is immoral. We don’t hate people because they’re different.

@yuh yuh where does it explain I want the exzact book or verse

@yuh yuh where does it explain I want the exzact book or verse

@Sheeesh 5.0hhh what bible version is that? because the one my religion uses is king james bible and i dont remember seeing that there. could be wrong tho

@yuh yuh the bible’s been changed to fit the roman’s views tho.. i’m like 99% positive it wouldnt have said that before the bible got changed cus even the quran aint bout that slavery shit

@Carbon000 God didn’t write the Old Testament, like the guy below you said, he corrected the world.

@Carbon000 God didn’t write the Old Testament, like the guy below you said, he corrected the world.

@yuh yuh Jesus never supported it and it also says in the Bible to not buy or sell humans. I see why you think slavery is not a sin but in the Bible it's talking about people that need to pay off debt and work for someone and they should be in peace not beating them

Not to mention slavery in the time that the Bible was talking about wasn't an EVIL thing. When the Bible mentioned slavery it was talking about servants, and saying how to treat your servants. Definitely was not talking about european level slavery where they raped men women and children and was insanely unjust. Which is why Moses freed the slaves who were being treated unjust. If the Bible glorified that kind of slavery then there would have been no point for Moses to have freed the slaves

@yuh yuh That's not what God says, my dude, that was a paraphasia of the law of those ppl. it's not saying it's right or wrong, it's mentioning the law. It's not God's law.

@Sheeesh 5.0hhh ofc man! good to hear that you got some clarity from my response.

@Sheeesh 5.0hhh ofc man! good to hear that you got some clarity from my response.

@Matt Diaz  that’s a good point and I was taking it into consideration when reading this text; about the recovery time of 1 or 2 days. Also yea, I’m not a parent but I’d never raise my hands on my child (there are other better means of disciplinary actions that don’t involve physical punishment), but I have raised my hand out of anger against my brother once or twice in my life and I was regretful about it afterwards; so I am a sinner in that sense but iv learned from my mistakes to not let my emotions get the best of me. Overall, your reply mostly cleared my confusion about this text so I thank you for that!

@yuh yuh where in the duck does it say that please quote somewhere in the Bible I will bet $1000000 that they ain’t 1 dam quote

@Sheeesh 5.0hhh if someone was beaten "near death" they wouldn't be able to recover and perform their duties in just 2 days. And by your interpretation of how most punishment is carried out, being out of "anger" or of sinful desires, would that standard go the same for parents of children? As they are also instructed to not "spare the rod of punishment." (Prov 13:24)

@Matt Diaz Exodus 21:20-21 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.” I’m assuming the social structure during ancient Israel allowed physical punishment and was seen as an appropriate punishment for disobedience. But to me this sounds a bit harsh; since the Master can beat their slave nearly to death and not be held accountable. Also, i feel like this would incite slave holders to continue physical abuse, which in my eyes most physical punishment/altercation (unless in self defense or for sport like MMA, Boxing, ect), especially when done out of anger, is sinful. Idk though, I’d love to hear your interpretation of this text; since I’m not extremely knowledgeable about the Bible.

@yuh yuh The slavery in the Bible was not based exclusively on race. People were not enslaved because of their nationality or the color of their skin. In Bible times, slavery was based more on economics; it was a matter of social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their families. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, and even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their masters.

@yuh yuh lmfao what are you even saying. Please show me a verse for any of this. Thanks.

@yuh yuh lmfao what are you even saying. Please show me a verse for any of this. Thanks.

not supports justifies lol, slave owners used that bible verse to justify slavery as homophobic people do now to justify it with their religion. nothing has changed.

@Carbon000 lol he didn’t correct himself he corrected the world and how it was. Don’t ask me any questions you aren’t gonna believe no matter what answer I give you because you’re wasting both of our time. Ask him maybe you’ll get a clearer answer?

@A very very very specific name Why does god need to correct himself isnt he perfect?

@A very very very specific name Why does god need to correct himself isnt he perfect?

@yuh yuh you do know that was the Old Testament?  That’s why Jesus came in the first place to replace the ways of the old testament and the laws in it. Not only that, but it wasnt like the slavery we saw in America they were more like indentured servants.  Not justifying it but y’all can’t judge how things are back then when those are things are which were deemed as normal and based on class. whereas slavery in America was based purely on racism and prejudice.

@yuh yuh POV: you try to argue about the bible but know little more then a few Inaccurate TikTok videos

@yuh yuh POV: you try to argue about the bible but know little more then a few Inaccurate TikTok videos

@yuh yuh i think you are confused Jesus was in heaven when slavery was happening. When he came to earth and died and rose from the death for everyone’s sin. That’s when people got mad because sin, is the only thing that can legally let people do whatever they want. That’s why the apostles got hunted down, because they were spreading the truth. Sin nowadays is a choice, back then (Old Testament) you couldn’t be holy unless God called you or your people to live in holiness.

@yuh yuh lets see some quotes from the bible than

@yuh yuh lets see some quotes from the bible than

@yuh yuh Bible verse where Jesus supports slavery? Also you know their are different meanings to the word slavery and slave in Hebrew 😂😂😂

The Bible literally states that you’re allowed to buy slaves and beat them to near death. It also gives clear instruction on how to beat a slave. One guy freeing slaves doesn’t erase the fact that Jesus supported it.


Can confirm, you don’t get PTSD from slicing up animals. My family has been doing it for like 3 generations and they are all fine.

Anecdotal evidence doesnt change the fact that a large amount of ex / slaughterhouse workers get ptsd thats just a fact..


“animals get shot and throats slit everyday”
He repeats it thinking that we, normal people, give a shit LMAOO
I'm sorry guy but we on top, that's their purpose for us. They give us pleasure and substinence.

@Andre C. nope :) no other human is less than another human.<br>Other species are to be consumed

@Andre C. nope :) no other human is less than another human.
Other species are to be consumed

With your logic you could justify slavery lol.


David seems like a good guy I'm lowkey going to subscribe


Watching this makes me sad I live on a Cow farm but no all animals are aboused we let them die naturally then take the meat of them after they are treated very well


Why should u trust God👑?
•He knows u by name
•He will fight for u
•He thinks abt u
•He has plans for u
•He will never leave ur side
Amen💕✨

@Kase God is real to most because of confirmation bias. If something good happens, it must be God. If something bad happens, it must be your fault or part of your journey.

Which god is it now? The who called the bombings or the one who told to be a phedo?

@UZSUOL you cant live life without faith in something and if u have faith in nothing then u aint going no where i life and thats a fact

@Dee Znauts that’s something i cannot argue with. gen z (me included — i’m agnostic myself) are WAY less religious than say,<br>baby boomers or the silent generation

@Dee Znauts that’s something i cannot argue with. gen z (me included — i’m agnostic myself) are WAY less religious than say,
baby boomers or the silent generation

@UZSUOL lol yeah okay. what, have you not had your fix of wholesome 100 keanu chungus cyberpunk 2077 minecraft memes yet?

@Dyringatory more and more people are becoming less religious. Religion is out the door. Good riddance.

Then why did my house burn down and my nephew died and now I live in a shitty RV depressed as fuck and think about suicide every single day? Fuck god, aint fuckin real smh

@Slumpyjosh Tv Did u really pray for him?

@Dyringatory ggez. That’s exactly what I thought.

@UZSUOL LOL saunter back to reddit and scroll on r/dankmemes and r/atheist to give Le Funny Memes™ updoots

@Dyringatory  Religion is indoctrinated. I understand why you think that way and feel the need to call everyone with a different belief other than yours a redditor. Such a weak attempt to shut down further discussion. How bout puttin your brain where your mouth is and tell me and all the other "redditors" what gives YOU "enough" reason to believe in such a thing. For me personally I dont just simply believe in everything I'm told because everything I'm told is potentially compromised. I know absolutely nothing of god or any religion for that matter other then what other people have told me and people are just such an inaccurate source unless you have some sort of irrefutable proof. Literally no difference between santa clause and God. Blind faith.

I don't have faith in anything. You earn trust w me and anybody's who's got a brain.


He said ptsd like it’s a butcher not a murderer


Ngl he destroyed him when he brought up the religion part with the sacrificial lamb, the guy had no answer back to that lmaooo

@C many people’s morales are based on the Bible tho

David Salinas “Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you.” You gunna eat me too? lol. That’s literally my point, every intelligent Christian knows everything isn’t supposed to be taken literally and doesn’t translate 1:1 to current times.

@Juhuurd True but on that same note what does that say about someone when they base their moral compass on a book entailed with erratic decisions in favor of a god.

If someone killed their son now and said “god told me to” then best case scenario they would be sent to a mental facility. “The Bible say so” argument falls flat when you don’t actually follow what the Bible says.

@C it is a commandments from the most high god himself though so vegans are automatically in the wrong.

@C "The Bible says so" actually isn't a bad point when having a discussion based on morality tho. You can see where most peoples socially constructed "morals" come from when you take a look into the Bible.

Bad argument, the dudes counter argument was actually valid because Christians don’t have to sacrifice lambs anymore after Jesus died for our sins (the ultimate sacrifice); he should’ve used Islam since it’s meant to be taken more literally.

@Hansel Carmona yeah, would lead to a different argument they were trying to avoid.

@Hansel Carmona lol no he wouldn't be bashed for it

@pli wer Vegan dude was just trying his best to be respectful of a religion he doesn’t believe in. He criticizes it internally but can’t actually say that he thinks the Bible is stupid because he’ll be bashed for it.

@CLIT DESTROYER not fully, his argument to that point was that the Bible should be modernized, Jidion got him when he contradicted himself when he said that the Bible shouldn't be modernized, despite that being his argument. Other than that, good point by the vegan guy.

@CLIT DESTROYER Yeah out of the entire thing “The Bible says so” was the worst argument that someone could bring up. It’s literally one of the most ridiculous ways to counter an argument, I’m not saying this because I’m vegan (I’m not) nor am I an atheist either. It’s just one of the stupidest things one could say during a discussion based on morality.

His comeback was literally that the Bible should be modernized lmao.


I hate when vegans be like "you're killing living things" but they're also killing small bugs and bees and PLANTS just to satisfy their own selfish morals. Not all vegans are like that though my baby sister is just not a fan of meat she doesnt like it. Not because animals were harmed but she just never liked meat.


Is he aware that farms and cities are devastating animals home as a subjective fact?


I checked his channel, he is turning green from no meat


7:23 on this it’s not talking about “slavery” in the sense we know it as today it was closer to indentured servitude, and slaves were to be given homes and treated properly, the verse most commonly taken out of context is context Deuteronomy 15:17, which talks about the process of if a slave wanted to stay with their master because they treated them well