I’m a fan of disrupt, however this is a terrible investment and he’s misleading viewers by not disclosing the fact that he’s using the majority of this money to pay off bad debt, NOT to improve “production” or make “films”
The only way you’d find that is buried in the last page of the financial disclosure document where you can discover that Jak has defaulted on a $500K buyout from his partner, In exchange for 50% of the channel. However he was unable to pay this full amount. So now he’s trying to raise $500,000 in exchange for !!!10% of the channel!!?
This is completely absurd, and that’s not even mentioning the insane valuation of $10 million which is 100X their net profit which as a YouTube channel owner of similar size I can tell you is NOT fair value.
I’ve personally reached out to disrupt in hopes of clearing this up and finding out if there’s more to the story, but for now Id just like to warn people to get all the facts before they “invest”.
As I said at the start of this, I’m a fan of their channel and hope that they can find some less shady way of raising money, and I wish them all the success, but misleading fans is NOT the way forward.
Asking for a $100 “investment” is extremely sketchy for a YouTube channel. This isn’t a thing. They already have a paid bonus content section. Couldn’t a simple GoFundMe get the job done if he needs cash?
I read on the wefunder page that to sell the share you have to contact the owner and they would do a buy back but they cannot guarantee one seems sketch and not really "investing" lmao I really love this channels videos but this ain't it also 10 million valuation wtf?!? Seems crazy like the Faze IPO
So? The partner? Who is he to have such a strong take on the channle and what legal document that says his partner owns "50%". Maybe it's all fake, this is why we went 100% honesty and yet here we are being lied around too. Sucks, but transparency is everything but this is the outcome
First two minutes into the video I’m thinking, “I wonder what Coffee thinks about this?”. Thank you coffee. You’re the detective we need. Pump the stock
Thanks for pointing this out. I love disrupt! I read the last page of the financial document and there it is written plainly. I would have been down to just pitch in money for a gofundme.
@Faxn If he has shared rights to disrupt he'd have to fork off and create a new name. Overall though that may be a better idea but it still doesn't resolve his debt😏
I'm inclined to believe coffeezilla. I am not well-versed in these types of financial things, but what I am well-versed in is human behavior and how it can relate to a scam or fraudulent act. As soon as Jak began talking, his facial expressions mimic someone who is making an art of the sob story. "Invest" in this or this other not cool thing will happen. While I do like the Disrupt youtube channel, I don't have a strong enough connection to be comfortable "investing". To think this channel is doing something new and innovative is preposterous!
What sucks is that if he just needed money he could have just asked for it. He could have made a video and explained the situation and I can almost guarentee people would have been more than happy to help and donate to him, but the fact he went this way and made is super shady makes me never want to trust him.
now, now I"m sure all the paperwork is in place with the SEC for reg D shares....oh, wait.
Sucks seeing otherwise great people move into scam territory. It would have been better to fund raise without all the scammy investment stuff - people would have still supported it while keeping honest.
Thank you for the info. It is disgusting this isn't mentioned in the video. Of course, everyone should read all of the documents before investing, but many have invested in crypto & meme stocks with no knowledge. The whole video has a ton of work put into it but no mention of a HUGE default which shows there is money mismanagement in the exact company he is trying to pitch to his viewers right now.
Never heard of you before, looked into your channel after reading your comment and liked what I saw. Subbed. You produce the exact type of content I like to sit down and watch while I eat a quick meal, and you are 1000% right about this apparent scam.
I am hugely disappointed in Disrupt for this, $500k for 10% Christ, that's insane. A $10m valuation is just absolutely ridiculous, and I absolutely LOVE their content and have watched almost every video they've put out, but this is just asinine. I get it that we all make mistakes, but this honestly just seems like a breach of trust between producer and consumer. It feels like he's taking massive advantage of his viewers and their lack of experience and knowledge with this type of stuff. I am genuinely considering unsubscribing after seeing this video.
And the Meta-verse is something I am closely following and watching the tech to, I do agree with the things said in the end about it being the next move in entertainment, and it is (IMO) quickly becoming that.
But there is absolutely no where NEAR enough info to suggest that Disrupt is remotely worth $10m.
a ~1.5m subscriber shouldn't need to ask for 10% of the channel when you already have disrupt+ you have to consider the ad revenue, you have to consider patreon, and sponsorships and so much more sources of income. I'd understand if it was for a good cause like with team trees, but this is just "for the future of the channel." you're not struggling by any means necessary. I get that you have to pay all of your employees but this just comes off as entitled. You should be set financially bro. I literally skipped through half of this video because I knew it was all nonsense
@Zanalytics Inc patreon would have been a better option, he could easily make 10k+ off of patreon and that would take care of his quartly payments and he could make more payments, easily would have the debt cleared 2 years early. instead he's getting people to buy into his business in which the dividends are tied to yearly profits, so he can just reinvest all profit and pay out nothing to "investors"
You know, I was kind of thinking about kicking him $100.00 because I enjoy the content, if that paid dividends then great if not then I'm not stressing.
But after reading all of these comments, and realizing that even CoffeeZilla is foaming at the mouth to run an expose on this, I'm gonna keep my $100 in my pocket
@Coffeezilla How exactly is this investment opportunity misleading when even you yourself recognize that the financial disclosure literally DOES in fact disclose the entire former partner buyout plan? It's also not buried. It's a very simple document with pretty plain language, not a hundred+ page form full of jargon. The valuation is also discussed on the page. I can understand being cautious, but you're throwing mud at things that have already been discussed on the investment site. It's great that you reached out to Disrupt, but perhaps it would be better to first discuss with them and then come to the public square.
Also, this plan is literally the textbook definition of an investment. One is not guaranteed a return, but giving money with the intent that the company will continue to grow. Therefore, one is investing in the content creation. Again, I understand you support the channel, and your channel itself is a wealth of knowledge - it just comes across as shooting from the hip on this one.
Damn, I had no idea about all of this. Thanks for bringing it to light. As a 15 year old, Im not an investor who could potentially lose money off of this misleading information, but there are others who certainly could. Thanks again!
@mYstak3n But he hasn't dug through all of this. He's only read the disclosure and what has been posted on the site for everyone else to read. He said he's reached out to Disrupt, but didn't wait to post a pretty uninformed opinion prior to getting a response.
@Ashley R That’s not a bad idea… a democratized comment system. Almost in the same vein that Disrupt is pitching this “communal investment” (although that’s not what it truly is), which adds a nice level of irony on top. I like it.
Let's do the math - on their website, we see an example - if someone buys 25 000 shares, this will cost him $108 695.65, and the Prognozed, Not Guaranteed Yearly revenue of return will be $2 000...
Arriving at the correct answer through all the wrong steps here. If jak is 500K in debt from a default, that means a failure to pay that debt could very well mean the shutdown of the channel, and we, as the audience, do not want that. He does make good content. Next, your math is very wrong. 500K for half the channel, means it has a valuation of 1mil, not 10 mil. you added a zero. next, a company's net worth, is not their annual net profit. If that was the case, Disney is only worth what they put out this year, and it means if they go a year without releasing new content it would mean they have a net worth of $0. That is not how anything works. The annual net income of a business, is only a slim percentage of that businesses total value, and the actual profits, are called margins, which is the difference between net income and cost/debt.
As for a partial ownership of the channel, That's how stocks work. that's literally how every major corporation works. That's what corporate stocks ARE. percentage ownership of the company, which grants a proportional percentage of the net profit margin based on the number of shares, those are called stock dividends. you make that sound like it's a scam, when it just means that jack is just the majority shareholder, and with good reason. First of all, by owning 90% of all shares of the business, he has a controlling influence in the direction of the company. If he proportionally sold 50% of the ownership of the company, that means he would be beholden to us, the stockholders, to dictate the direction for the business, and when stockholders influence the direction of the company, the outcome is always "get me more money, I want bigger dividends", which means the content will change in favor of profit, rather than good content. by limiting the ownership to 10%, he prevents this outcome. And that gets back to your original 10 million figure, using 500,000 for 10% ownership, but that is still only 5mil, not 10 mil. you're saying the 500K debt is 50% of the company, which gets 10% of the business, which means 10% of the original valuation of 1 mill, to get 10 mil. That's bad math. If anything it means the current valuation of the "company" is -500K, and getting in 500K of investment gets to net zero, at which point all income after operating expenses is pure profit. and with 1-2 million subscribers, and add revenue being essentially per 1K views, with an average of 0.7 million views per video, means 70K per video, 12-24 videos a year is 140K to 280K per year, reduce by 1/10 (10% ownership) 10-20 years for a full return of investment, followed by pure profit, In addition to the continued reception of content. assuming the pace and popularity of the videos remains exactly content (zero growth), That's a better investment for us, the investors, than most things on NASDAQ, before even considering the potential for continued growth. your assumptions about where the money will go, assumes the worst.
the bad investment side of this, is that, it's a guy in 500K of debt, and we don't know the full circumstances of that debt. Is this because jak is bad with money, or did jak's former partner with the channel completely screw him over, effectively scamming him. we won't likely ever have the entire picture. if the other guy was shady, then we have nothing to worry about, and if jak is a F-up, then we have something to worry about. but given the quality of content, I don't think jak is personally the problem. The worst case would be that he could take the money and run, but his youtube career is basically "hey, look at all these scam artists and criminals, look how terrible they are, pretty F-ed up, right?", and for him to mess this up would be adding "and i'm one of them. I am what I criticize". And that's a really terrible thing to assume.
As for arriving at the correct conclusion through the wrong steps.... you are right that this is a bad idea, not for us, but for him. The better sollution would be to use a patreon type set up, plus advertisers, like most youtubers, many of whom are F-ing MILLIONAIRES because of it. That would pay off the debt, allow the channel to continue to make content and grow, but would not make them beholden to paying shareholders who demand larger dividends to prevent them from re-selling the stock and thus devaluing the company to secure investment funding by selling stocks due to the new, lower valuation. the entire concept of corporate stocks, shares in a company, Is a terrible idea and it slowly kills every business that goes public, it's short-term growth for long term loss, and a degradation of quality, in 100% of cases. I'm in favor of capitalism, but the stock market is capitalism gone wrong.
He said it clear in the discord. And if the """debt""" is not paid, the receiver of the money will assume 51% of disrupt, and have "other plans" for the channel.
I came back to this video to invest after watching it yesterday. I'm a huge fan of disrupt, but I'm also a bigger fan of Coffeezilla because I work in Blockchain and coffeezilla investigations help me and my team build better, communicate better, and grow as a positive business. This comment just saved me some cash, thanks bro.
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the e2022-07-24 12:14:04 (edited 2022-07-24 12:14:41 )
Directly from the last page of the financial statement:
"Jak has agreed to equity crowdfund 10% of Disrupt to pay the remaining member buyout in full, expand the operations of Disrupt, and bring high-quality content to new markets.
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"Disrupt has defaulted on a Promissory Note with a prior member of the company and as of May 23rd, 2022 currently owes the Noteholder a Note Balance of $466,179.87 on which interest is accruing at a rate of 2.5% per annum. Disrupt will use $500,000 of the Campaign proceeds to pay off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder’s counsel, and to pay Disrupt’s legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF.
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I think this is single-handedly the worst thing you could do. The entire comment section is either people saying they’ve lost their respect for this channel, or warning people not to do it. At most, they’re saying they aren’t going to buy it and telling people to be cautious.
This is a horrible look. I’m hoping this is some kind of joke but it does not appear it is. Talk about a channel going from absolutely adored by everyone to an absolute disaster in 1 video. Jesus.
Bro let's be logic here, there's absolutely no reason for a brained human being would go down this path other than because of one is forced to. For example, maybe he is in a lot of debt or something. We don't know what's happening to him right now. What am I trying to saying here is please, everyone, don't send hate to him like this. As a human being with a heart, I just feel bad for him 😢
@p0k3mn Yeah but it's at the expense of misleading hundreds or potentially thousands of your viewers being scammed out of at least $100 dollars. I imagine the amount of return you would get on a $100 investment would be laughably low. This video is misleading, and if he told the truth nobody would do it. Can you seriously tell me that misleading viewers into wasting significant portions of money on a large scale is the best thing he could've done?
@Aru the channel owner is in a lot of debt, and is trying to scam the viewers by selling a percent of the money the channel earns. He is trying to sell it for more money than it’s worth to scam the viewers
If you look at the balance sheet, he is in around $475,000 debt for buying his partner out of the channel. This appears to be a last ditch way of making that back to stop himself defaulting on the debt. That's where the money is going (clearly stated, buried on the last page of the financial report), not into feature films or studio facilities. Anyone "investing" in this is getting conned, unfortunately.
Frankly, I would feel much more comfortable with mechanisms such as Patreon being used to fund your channel. I don't want to own what you do, or have a say in it - I want you to be as independent in terms of how you creatively express yourselves as possible. That is what makes this channel, or ANY artistic expression, so valuable. My return on this investment is not money, it is the artistic enrichment of myself and others. I don't want you to grow for gains and profits, I want you to grow into more of this enrichment.
Well this is a company, not a youtube channel where Jak decides what he wants to do. He's only doing this to pay back a 500,000 USD debt that he defaulted on.
@Hristiyan Delisyarov only if he isnt the majority (50% or more) selling 10% will do literally nothing no downsides this is nothing but a positive for the viewers
If one were to decide to invest, the 10% of shares he is selling are non-voting. So regardless of if you were to invest or not, you will not get a say in company decisions.
@Landen Hayes No, but he will get a lawsuit, because he must have his shareholders' best interest in mind. You can't do an IPO to payback loans, as that kills the investment of the shareholders. It's pretty close to a crypto rug-pull
@p0k3mn Not necessarily. When I think of stocks, I think of later opportunity. I want to have something back, and want there to be more money for me in return. The company will begin to try and grow more and more to fuel things. They'll also have less money available than otherwise because now they have to pay back shareholders. That's quite the opposite of what I want!
I want to show that the channel I am supporting should be allowed to be independent of any growth, I don't want anything back apart from the content I am enjoying and coming for.
When you buy stocks, you're telling them that you want money, not content.
I thought this was a joke. You're in debt and selling out. If you have to pay back stuff then that's fine but don't mislead everyone. Also, a $10+ million dollar valuation of a channel with only a little over 1M subs? You're out of your mind. You guys make great content, but channels this size weren't making that much even before Adpocalypse. This reeks of poor judgement. If you roll this proposal back you might be able to save face, but if you stick to this, you're gonna lose a lot of people that were making you money to begin with. This could easily be career suicide. You owe 500k for the portion of the channel you bought out, so if you need to pay that back, why not use the ad money? If you aren't making enough to do that, why would you think anyone would ever want to invest?
While I think your content is absolutely outstanding and that you deserve monetary support to be able to create more, this seems incredibly sketchy in terms of an investment opportunity. $10.7 million valuation is a crazy price for a channel we know little about in terms of statistics and revenue. One of your answers to a question on the wefunder site was that your company probably won't be able to afford a buy-back, like how actual shares work. With a YouTube channel valued at $10.7 million, this seems a little strange. It's a very interesting and intriguing idea but with the amount of online scams spiking in the last couple of years, this move sort of gravitates toward that. Still looking forward to everything you guys put out though!
This isn't like an IPO for a large corporation. You have to remember that with content creation there will always be people willing to donate money to support their favorite content creators. So regardless of this "evaluation", equity can and will simply be seen as a perk of supporting a channel and an idea they love. Imagine if all those people buying subscriptions on Twitch also got equity in the revenue of all of their content creator's merch sales as a perk. That's what this would be more akin to.
@Spoonfed you had me on the first sentence. I don't think this has any relation to twitch subs, and hes not asking for a gofundme he keeps saying "invest" so why changing his words?
Good that you’re putting this out there. A lot of people view their favorite creators as angels and can do no wrong which isn’t too harmful normally but when money gets involved it can be rlly dangerous
@Sam T EXACTLY. thank you for succinctly putting it that way. for reference a “medium budget” indie film is about the same—half a million. for reference one of my faves (wristcutters) ended up in the mid 400k range. in terms of quality and digital assets, disrupt as a channel has well exceeded that benchmark. the big “but” is how it’s framed here to ‘investors’ without transparency, which is what gets me.
@eCodex 2.0 I have a theory that Disrupt as it stands is trying to pretty much become a full-blown indie studio, or a small company, or something like that. This whole stock thing seems to indicate that, as well as the unusual language used in the video when referring to the content. They're not called videos, they're called shows. That's why Disrupt is trying to present this weird stock idea in order to "legitimize" themselves instead of admitting to financial issues publicly. They can't discredit themselves via admitting to still relying on crowdfunding, so they do this instead. It's a really dumb idea, but this is the only way I can imagine an idea this moronic getting into their heads.
he only makes 100k a year on average from this youtube channel. Its 100% not valued at 10 million. He is only doing this to pay back a debt he accrued from buying the other 50% of the company from his cofounder. That debt is 500,000 USD, and the funding amount is also 500,000 USD. He defaulted on this debt.
10% up for grabs. Divide by 0.07% and multiply by 7000 = 1,000,000 Shares. Divide by 23 shares and multiply by $100 gives a valuation of $4,347,826.10 for 10%. Multiply by 10 for a total valuation of $43,478,261.00 which is a lot of money.
shame on you for not mentioning: DISRUPT HAS DEFAULTED ON A PROMISSORY NOTE WITH A PRIOR MEMBER OF THE COMPANY AND AS OF MAY 23, 2022 CURRENTLY OWES THE NOTEHOLDER A NOTE BALANCE OF $466,179.87 ON WHICH INTERST IS ACCURING AT A RATE OF 2.5% PER ANNUM. DISRUPT WILL USE APPROXIMATELY $500,000 OF THE CAMPAIGN PROCEEDS TO PAY OFF THE NOTE BALANCE, TO PAY LEGAL FEES TO THE NOTEHOLDER'S COUNSEL, AND TO PAY DISRUPT'S LEGAL AND REGULATORY FEES IN COMPLICANCE WITH REG CF.
sheeeiit, if the mane making 25k like right now that would it would take aprox 18 to 20 years to pay that debt off. But if he do starr making that money les say 50k a year it take only 10 year n sheeit. But like everyone be on this youtube and shit and he be providing good ass films n All. Then again if he do be raising 500k and pays the man off (the channel can flat out plug out lmao) or stay on. idk. Look at netflix stock, disney, paramount. They took lots of debt to create Classics ultimate classics. Hell i might buy me some PARA ffs, they have a 3.8% yield and i think they had robert deniro on there cast who knows. something to think OF
@James Crock You got this. There are plently of company out there paying good money in dividends today. Arguably bringing real value, excellent investment. I see insiders bought their stock back recently and pretty much held to their stock during that "correction", so at least they believe in their own operation. And holy shit now Buffet is in $PARA as well! I might buy some too.
About the company revenue, Disrupt made $132k of net profit in 2021 (forgetting about that single debt to take full ownership). This should be enough to cover the $30k of liabilities quarterly. But wait for it, the owner is getting paid $83k! So yeah it makes $50k of profit, this equity buyout is plain mismanagement.
It feels like a scam BECAUSE IT IS A SCAM! I am on the Discord where Jak and another team member have been planning this out. They talk openly about deceiving their "stupid viewers." I've seen it. STAY AWAY!
I honestly would have supported you had you been honest but now I feel the need to warn others. Take a look at financials, ALL of the money raised (if hit 500k) will go to legal issues that were resolved in court. Owner pay and personal expenses were already $83,568 as of Dec 31 2021. Don't go into business with people that cover up the truth.
This is the bottom line. And why I’m extremely upset at this channel and this man’s claim. Throughout the video he makes it seem like a fantastic opportunity, when you read the fine print, it’s just him calling donations “investment” that’s predatory
I'm on Discord with this clown. He's been bragging about how easy it will be for him to "fleece" his audience. He's been talking about it every day for a month. NO ONE will see any returns on their "investments."
At least your commitment is public with Patreon. The creator and a team member have been laughing about ripping viewers off on Discord for over a month. I've seen them discussing it. DO NOT GIVE THIS CHANNEL MONEY! It will disappear.
The valuation to me is crazy. Since the number of shares isn't listed except in the video animation we have to assume it was correct, and that's 1 million shares. If $100 buys you 23 shares, then the total share value for all shares is just over 4 million USD. That's still only 10% of disrupt though, which makes disrupt worth $40+million USD. That's in the ballpark of the entire linus media group which has a physical complex, a huge team, over 60X your total views, partnerships, a store, and sponsorships which disrupt cannot reasonably decide to match with their content model. This also places the value (40M usd) at roughly 200 years of current profit, and the point of investing is to enable growth, with this proposal you need to become 200x more profitable for this to be a profitable investment inside a year, or instantly 40X more profitable and maintain that to be a good investment in 5 years. I love disrupt content, but the scant details and odd model feel like this proposale would have been much more honest as a patreon or twitch plug.
@I'll punch you In the face I didn't say scam because I don't think it's a scam. The problem is the value of a company and the value of content are entirely different kingdoms here. Lots of patrons would consider $100 a year for exclusive access and extras to be a very reasonable bargain. But the entire problem with this video is presenting disrupt as a profitable business opportunity instead of as an independant quality video production studio with no puppetmasters controlling their bank accounts to make sure they play nice. I just don't see how these models coexist. :(. but "scam" is a bit strong.
The problem is they took a loan for $500K, and defaulted. That is why he is trying to raise money. (Read last page of the Financials, bottom of investment webpage)
another problem is their financial doc. the last thing on it says, that they owe 500k to a former partner ... and that has an interest rate of a painfull 6% and has to be paid back within a time limit. since this happened rather recently, its kinda obvious why they started this mess right now. Even without that, the yearly income seems rather unstable and not high enough to be reasonable imo.
@Nepheos their income is growing, at least from last year to this year. and they really don't have much expenses considering everyone works for home and are probably contractors. If he were to set up a patreon he would easily make enough money to half his quartly payment. unless his YT stats arent looking good there would be no reason for him to do some stupid thing like this.
@Jakob Esparza for an income source such as youtube, especially when it is one of your primary income sources, which it probably is considering the lack of engagement on their competing platform, revenue is highly variable... not everyone stays relevant on youtube forever and there is a likely long trail of channels from 5 or more years ago you watched who went from millions of views to tens of thousands, if they upload at all.
also, i dont think this is a 'scam' but it certaintly is dodgy handling. they are making out something is an opportunity to invest which implies the potential for later returns rather than being clear with what they want and actually raise money through patreon etc... but i dont think that would get much popularity as it would have to be much more clear that its charity to fulfill someone elses bad financial choices
Wow, a $10m evaluation. I hate when people try to "hate-bombed" or cancel channels or whatever, especially when it's on creators I love so much - but I do still want to share my thoughts in the flood of criticism. If I understand correctly, wasn't the evaluation $1m a year ago? My YT channel's financial statements are surprisingly very similar to Disrupt's and I can hardly imagine achieving the original $1m evaluation, and that's without taking the whole debt thing into consideration. Granted, our channels are very different, since mine relies on my presence while Disrupt's content could continue to flourish without the founder which is always a benefit when considering outside capital. Disrupt is also very focused on a subscription model outside of YT while I rely mostly on YouTube as a platform. And finally, Disrupt is growing in popularity more rapidly than I have. But even with all of that taken into consideration, and putting the promissory note aside, I'm still just hung up on how the company has 10x'ed its evaluation in just over 1 year. The approximately 25 videos published since the 500k buyout have been phenomenal videos in every regard, I think I've watched them all at least twice. But I dunno if they proved an additional $9m on the evaluation especially since the channel's growth has been going up, but only gradually - not any sort of explosion the past year. I will continue to adore everything about the content, production value and storytelling this channel brings as I have for over 3 years now but I am so curious on better understanding the process behind achieving the evaluation. I also wish there was a breakdown of revenue, because it sounds like most of it was from YT ads and sponsors which I sadly consider to be unreliable and inconsistent. I will 100% be sticking around for updates, and to simply enjoy and support some of the best vids on this website. I hope everything works out!
I can't believe he just tanked the reputation of himself and disrupt with a single video. You all might want to start downloading the videos before youtube terminates the channel for tos violations.
Please archive it with yt-dl or archive org if you are someone who has a lot of bandwidth, time or maybe vps/rdp.
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The Dark Knight2022-07-24 01:00:27 (edited 2022-07-24 01:01:11 )
1. The narrator (Jak) owns 50% of disrupt. 2. His partner (Jordan) owned 50%. 3. Jak bought Jordans half for $500,000 4. He doesn't have the money to pay for it. 5. So the viewers buy shares and collectively own 10% and their money goes to pay off the half million Jak owes. 6. Each "owner" of .000004% of the company makes squat. But together they pay $500.000 and get 10% of the company at the same price that Jak just bought 50% of the company for..... Doesn't quite have the same ring to it when said that way
@Jason Jones This guy should be ashamed of himself. If he's not one would hope his parents were ashamed of him. To do a YouTube channel about something you love really shows when you come out with good content, and we as viewers see that passion and it's the reason we like and subscribe. To turn around and forget how you got here and rip off those same subscribers like we are just a means to an end is soulless and quite frankly disgusting to watch happen. I lost ALL RESPECT for DISRUPT and now see that Jak doesn't care about anyone but himself. News flash Jakko.. your subs aren't stupid. And you just spit in their faces. Let's see how that goes for you. In a year from now, you'll be nothing more than the story of a YouTube channel that crashed and burned covered by actual RESPECTED YouTube channels.
@Jason Jones Please post evidence on imgur/reddit like the other commenter suggested. If this is really true, they deserve the backlash they'll receive when outed.
@The Dark Knight Jason is probably trolling dude, he's all over the comment section saying the same thing over and over and not answering to anyone that asks for proof
Ah shit i pulled out when found out its for paying the debt that already got defaulted.
Got hyped for the idea of it even if its risky af But got scared and sad when i found out about the debt (not to mention the evaluation that is blown off, half baked ideas and so on)
Jak you could’ve explained the situation and asked for a crowd found or patreon or anything really. This shit suck man people are losing trust and may start to leave the channel and if you continue with the idea you will have investors that you will need to answer to, which would even more complicate everything.
I don’t understand why you went that impossible complicated path if you could’ve asked for help first, and only then continue with this endeavor.
@Wessel If I’m being charitable, it seems like a way to pay off the debt to his ex-partner. If not, then this could be just a way for them to share an easy $250,000.
@Tyler Boyle Wow thanks for this. $500,000 to pay back over the course of 5 years with a 6% interest rate 😬 Seems as thought the $500,000 is just to get his friend paid back rather than an actual "investment opportunity." Would definitely be cool if it all works out for investors though.
@GOOD LIFE they gotta pay back the ex-partner first. This doesn’t look good & really should have been presented as a charitable offer... in that case, I would donate.
@GOOD LIFE If they wanted you to know it, would be in all caps in the video. The point is you won't make any money back. There is no upper limit for the funding and a lot of credulous people are gonna jump right in, meaning the ROI gets worse and worse. Read the financials, the company has defaulted. This is bad.
@pyropulse I think you might’ve misunderstood what I meant. I absolutely know that this is a bad investment, but I was saying it WOULD be cool if investors actually had solid returns with it. Will they? Undoubtedly not. We’re definitely on the same page about him asking for money as an “investment.” Just clearing it up. 👍🏻
Sadly this is a scam. The company is evaluated roughly 15-20x what it should be. The dividends (what the investor makes) is based on net profit after production expenses. This includes all the salaries, which include the owner (salary not mentioned). Traditionally investment is based on stock price based on company evaluation, but here, you can't resell it. In other words, you will receive pennies on the dollar. Jak (founder/owner) said it best "do not expect to receive more than a few cents for many years to come."
If Jak said he needed cash and had a go fund me, of course, id give him a dollar or two. But sadly, he relied on smoke and mirrors. Because of that, not only can you not rely on the business evaluation, but you can't trust the 'CEO' of this company.
I agree. He leaves out all of the real truths and reasons in the video, makes it seem fun to unbeknownst supporters that might be daft to boilerplate. If you read the fine print, it’s just a full blown manipulation to get his viewers money without being straightforward with us all. Just another sleazy sales tactic. I’m terribly disappointed at this all.
Such a moronic decision. Channels this size make thousands a month on patreon. If he did that in addition to sponsored videos, he'd have knocked out that massive debt in 1-2 years.
Pretty sure these guys will get hit with selling an unregistered security unless they ensure all investors are accredited which I highly doubt will be the case.
Please hire a financial advisor or professional, the numbers don't check out to any sane person. You've built such a high quality product and still have much room to grow, do not let it all go to a trap. We all love your channel, but this just does not seem right.
"Disrupt, Inc’s valuation has been determined internally, without a formal-third party independent evaluation."
The $10.7 M valuation is solely supported by "trust me bro"
The company is closer to be worth around $500K. They currently make $30K per quarter and have a defaulted debt of $500 K with a quarterly payment of $29K until 2026. Which means that with current revenue nobody will see a cent for at least 5 years. No investments will be made to increase the content production. So at this point the channel strategy is basically get saved by the algorithm.
Additionally, the co-owner helped with the content creation, and now disrupt will have to pay someone a wage to do those functions. That is an extra liability that is currently not mentioned.
I'm pretty sure selling a channel is against community guidelines or the terms of service. I haven't read them myself but I've seen it talked about as a big no no before. You really zhould read the TOS front to back to make sure you aren't in violation of that before you get your channel deleted all together accidentally...
He is selling the company producing the content and owning the IP. Absolutely legal. By the way this is a scam, read the financials, don't buy into it.
@HyperMario also I'm not considering buying, I think just reading the youtube description of this video shows how deceptive this is. I'm honestly kinda disappointed. I think if he jusy put up a crown funder and said he was in a bad financial position it would be more transparent and honestly I'm saddened and disappointed at this video...
@Rowan Raine Yeah illegal was the wrong word, I mean there is no basis for YT to do anything about this as the company is operating opaquely on the account. So they have no saying in any internal restructuring (but maybe on the video itself if they consider it as wire fraud).
And I agree this is super disappointing to take advantage of credulous individuals in the audience that hope to make actual money in times of need, honestly I'm unsubbing.
Been seeing a lot of people looking into their sheets, and all their stuff is upfront if you're trying to educate yourself before investing. Absolutely nobody is forcing you to go in blind a blind investment is just moronic. Regardless of how the video is presented all the facts are public domain.
There are a lot of people selling channels on the forum market. They're selling channels with a lot of subscribers or views by farming them.. like you know, for example, that channel that keeps uploading Family Guy episodes, Tiktok, or music album channels..
Before this rant, I want to make something clear. I love this channel, I think your work is amazing, easily one of the best channels on YouTube that follow the documentary-esque content format.
With that said, valuing this channel at $10.4m is... Optimistic to say the least. Especially when your financials state the company made $130k last year (this is before deducting what you pay yourself as the owner) and has $500k in outstanding debt (that you have DEFAULTED on) from buying a 50% stake in the company from your co-founder.
With those numbers, what made you think the 50% stake you bought for $500k on June 1st 2021 inflated to $5m in the 14 months since then, for you to then sell 10% to us at that inflated rate? Did you find a particularly rich vain of gold under the disrupt offices? Perhaps crude oil began coming out of the faucets instead?
On top of all this, you obscure these figures and facts, putting them just out of reach for anyone who trusts what you've said in the video and 'invests' before they go to the bottom of your wefunder page, and then scroll to the bottom a plain text financial report to get information you should have been transparent about from minute one of your deer skit.
Kind of looks like you realised this channel isn't worth the $1m you thought it was worth those 14 months ago and you're trying to have your cake and eat your viewers cake too.
He is going to be frustrated now (like his thumbnail lol). Well, let's just see the fire burned or extinguished... Why doesn't he just be truthful and ask for a donation instead? It's like my man doesn't want to beg or look stcupid. lmao
In fact, due to the loan interest and payments, the channel should be bankrupt in a matter of months. The video references this at the very beginning, citing 'internal restructuring', deceptive to say the least.
If the channel was valued at $1M, then his half was worth $500k. He bought the other half for $500k, borrowing the money from his current half, meaning he (and by proxy the channel he now owns) is now worth $0 when you add up the debt. The company still has a $1M "valuation", but has a $0 financial backing, with HORRIBLE financials, and is all but bankrupt.
Not entirely sure if this analysis is correct, but this is how I see it.
I'll be completely honest, no sane investor would invest in this until there is more information released, like people within the company, cash made now vs a per monthly basis since the channel's inception. You know, basic portfolios that would attract a house fly
Lmao that is true, at least a basic portfolio would be useful with revenue from the past 3 yrs or summin. But checking their socialblade, they seem to make around 4k-60k annually and their subs only seems to be increasing
@T33 You can find the link to their financials if you go to the link in the description, but it ain't looking too good. The corporation is 500k in debt and it even states he defaulted on one of the payments which could lead to a lawsuit.
Sadly he's not trying to attract investors, he is trying to attract fans with more dedication and surplus cash than wisdom or experience. I hate saying that about such a good channel too...
honestly this just seems like a huge guilt trip with the whole path a path b thing. it boils down to "if you don't 'invest' the channel is going to be worse!! invest or you'll lose our content"
1. Sell 20% of the company's net revenue 2. Pay debt 3. Keep creating the same content 4. Give the company's president a salary equal to the company's revenue 5. Company never has revenue 6.??? 7. Profit
See the weird thing to me is that if this was a Patreon with worthless rewards, nobody would care and the support would roll in. Why go this route?
His debt is 2.5% & incredibly cheap. He could easily pay that off with even just the channel's regular income. I love this idea. If he waited for the channel's financials to be healthy and gave it a better valuation he would have killed it. Who knows though? He'll probaly hit his goal anyway.
@Ian his debt is 500K, at 6% interest and defaulted. This is just a lawsuit in the making if he doesn't pay it quick to his old co-owner. That is probably why he is doing this. To get the money quick. At the same time there are multiple loop holes like the one I mentioned in which he can just not pay any revenue ever to anyone even if he does make money in the future.
You can invest if you want. Just be minded that you have been warned of the possible red flags.
And that valuation of $ 10.7 M is nowhere justified in the financial reports.
So this is new. Never thought I'd see anything like this especially coming from a channel that I love. Good luck with everything but I have a bad feeling that no matter how this whole thing goes, I think this channel might be done no matter how much you raise. Just seems really shitty
i love the videos on this channel and appreciate the production quality, but this kind of "investment" talk feels a bit weird... i understand that you guys want to grow and support your channel but this comes across like a lot of other "investment" type scams we see all the time online nowadays. just feels like you're trying to make this seem like a bigger "opportunity" than it is for so called investors when you're ultimately going to profit the most
edit: not to mention how the financial documents seem to disclose this "investment" will go towards paying off a buyout debt the channel's current owner has of about $500k. there's a real problem here with a lack of disclosure about what the funds will truly be used for under the guise of improving the channel itself. be careful and make sure you know what you're actually giving your money here towards.
Obviously the people running the show are going to take a bigger share of the pie, but as long as investors can get a steady stream of passive income and dividends
@G VS that's the thing though, the investors realistically will get little to no return. they even say that realistically your $100 won't net you more than a few cents for YEARS. it's not a good "investment" as much as it realistically is just a glorified kickstarter for angel investors, but i don't think they're doing a good job presenting that as being the case
If they won't get 500k quick they will be bankrupt. Jak took 500k debt to buy back the whole equity and defaulted on the loan. If you invest 500k, you will just make that debt go away but they won't have any money to pay for better content. Jak made a bad financial decision and doesn't want to bear consequences himself.
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Da Batman2022-07-23 21:35:59 (edited 2022-07-23 21:36:39 )
From what I read, he’s basically asking for 10.7 million dollars to pay off his debt
The initial pay would leave him better off, however I believe that the videos will continue to grow in views and gain more equity making it a better investment over time.
@Ashley R i commented 11 hours ago, coffeezilla commented 8 and a multitude of discussions were going on before and after either of us commented! it's not a competition to both have the same idea that something was off when the evidence was there
RIP cool YouTube channel, it was great while it lasted. I hope bankruptcy doesn't personally sink you, but you can't do this man, none of this stuff holds up in the least.
My man didn't even think that he could afford that shit out or not. Well, it is what it is. All he could do now is apologize for the bullshit and ask fans to donate to help him. lmao
Jak, i've known you for nearly 10 years. This channel (before it became disrupt) is a part of why I went into media production, it sucks to see you make this decision and I can see from the comments most people think this is a ridiculous idea and have clearly looked into it more than I have. I've got a lot of happy memories working with you and its disheartening to see this happen and the choice you're making. I wish you the best mate but I can't support this.
Man, a $10.7 mil valuation on a company that brings in 51k gross a year (so 27k profit) is pretty interesting. At the 10% dividend rate and 250,000 shares, this means that each share if revenue stays equal will earn slightly over one cent a year. This one cent stock would be valued at $4.00. Not the craziest price ratio I've ever heard but a very mediocre and not promising launch.
In other words, to regain what you've spent on investing at these rates would take 400 years.
@eqods 1 But even "company" youtubers don't try to sell you their channel. The only reason Disrupt is doing this (more specifically Jak) is probably because of a 500k loan he has to pay back. "Investing" won't create better quality content and it certainly won't earn you any form of money for many, many years.
i love this channel and i do not intend on ceasing viewership but i still think investing through an online program like this, regardless of legality is a pretty fucking bad idea
the irony when disrupts avg user base is entirely too suspicious and savvy to buy in (literally). i’m still going to watch as a viewer and support at a distance but totally agreed
Scroll down to the bottom of the investment page and click on "review our financials". The company hasnt even made $500k in its lifetime yet he values it at $10 mil. Also you will be able to see why hes really doing it, he bought 50% of the company from the previous co-owner for $500k and has now defaulted on the payment plan for this amount. Hes selling 10% of the channel to pay back 500k he owes, not to improve the channel.
@rel8 m8 oh i know. i apologise if any of my comments could have come across as endorsing this—i know it’s a death play for jak to try and cover a defaulted 500k promissory. while i empathise with the insane level of desperation he must be feeling to have even thought this was a remotely good idea, it’s still a complete bomb and this will be the subject of articles+documentaries in years to come
This is EXTREMELY disappointing. This is in my top 10 channels I watch almost every upload. I do hope things get better but I cannot with good faith "invest" $100. I do wish you all the luck in the world though, stay safe.
This sounds sketchy af, we don't even know the statistics etc of the channel. I also feel like this would not go well with Youtube ToS. If you want to be serious with this and want to sound legit why not make it a public company that people can invest in like normal, with the recent rise in influencer scams this seems like a really bad idea.
thats because it IS sketchy. he is doing this entire thing because he defaulted on a 500k USD debt. the funding goal is also 500k, and he states all of the money goes towards paying that debt. You also will not even more than a few cents in profits, as Jak himself says.
i say this as someone who has been well into the depths of medical debt well upward of your defaulted: declare bankruptcy. start fresh. if you’re not planning on leaving the country to get clear, even then, start fresh. i’m so sorry that you’re in the base position to have had to “buy out” a channel partner at that sum, but i promise this isn’t the way to resolve the default.
man, i don’t know how to feel about this. you should be upfront atleast and say you are needing $500k to pay your former partner back and ask for donations, rather than making it seem like it’s an investment opportunity.
i consider myself a massive fan of the great work you guys put out, but this just seems like a really bad move. at the very least, this is a bad look, which will potentially push people away from the channel before they even give it a chance.
i hope you secure the funds you need, of course, but this was not what i was expecting from you guys.
Yeah, I don't know about this. Most people would call it a glorified scam. Just become a publicly traded company if you want serious investors. But hey, I could be wrong, I wouldn't call you guys scammers, but at the same time, it smells sus to anyone who's been online for the last 20+ years.
The problem is its the old early access idea. "Pay now so we can use that money for our product." However what really happens is getting the money before incentives less quality sense you already have the money.
Yea as I was hearing about it..it sounds sketchy. "Buy our product/invest now and you get money" and it's almost like...somethings up. I don't know shit abt investing but even I know that what he proposed was sketchy and sus to anyone with half a braincell.
I wouldn't call it a scam. An IPO is very complicated and a pain in the butt to accomplish. As far as we know this is the first round of investments which is almost always before an IPO. If they were looking to scam, they wouldn't have shown their Financials and everything to make it seem legit. Only thing I disagree with is the value they consider the company to be worth ($10m). I don't think it's worth close to that but people investing will still own a share of the company. It's not a scam.
I think the benefit in privately issuing shares is that they can accomplish the goal of raising capital without the added volatility of public markets.
This makes the most sense to me at least. They get to set the rules, mitigate some risk, and keep including fans in their decisions.
I thought kinda the same thing but more like ... an opportunity to waste money. The views are not extremely high, in correlation to how much they upload.
You are wrong and it is very clear you have no idea how investing works. To become publicly traded company it is extremely hard this is very common and how Angel investing actually works in silicon valley if you think it's a scam don't invest in it.
You can't just call things you don't understand a scam.
Becoming a publicly traded company would then open the requirement of having an executive board, investor voting rights etc. This way the company stays private and the director can manage still manage the company without having to appease investor
@will m well your comment is definitely more detrimental for stupid investors than teenagers apparently giving skepticism a bad name, i hope your first comment made you feel big
This is shady, the company owes $500k to a former associate since the guy took full ownership one year ago. The company defaulted and is financing the amount due via crowdfunding. This is in the financials. No mention of any of this in the campaign itself.
I just signed up. Here's how I see it. I give hundreds of dollars a month to creators on Patreon where I get nothing back besides a warm fuzzy feeling. So for me, this is like a "Patreon plus", where I'm supporting a creator I believe in, but there's a chance I'll get something more than a warm fuzzy feeling in return. Feels like a win-win to me.
@Paul S Rohrbaugh The point is this is not presented as a donation but as a competitive way to make money. Watching the initial shady and foggy offer and breaking down the hidden backstory has been quite insulting throughout. I donate for some free content I read but I would never put a penny for that. Too bad he will get his money in no time from the people.
@OBAD 76 thats not really how it works. i get what your saying there but their reasoning was that they needed capital to make higher quality videos sense it takes money to make money
I don't think they can legally do IPO with such small size. Market capitalization required for that is probably in billions. Besides it looks like they have over evaluated their valuation anyway. That will get caught by authorities before IPO.
I've loved this channel since I stumbled across it but I need more reassurance to as where the money is going before I drop $100. Where are you guys planning on going with the content or will you guys produce a real tangible product? What's the timeline/burndown chart look like? And, how many shares do you guys currently have in circulation?
Edit: nevermind, after seeing Coffeezillas comment it's apparent this is more of a charity run than an actual investment opportunity. I'd make more burning $100 on doge or shiba tbh.
Reading the comments here it looks like you got tons of passionate viewers interested in seeing this channel growing that would've been more than happy to support you through patreon for example, me included. Looking forward to see what your response to the community will be after reading through the comments. The content released on this channel I've enjoyed greatly, I'd just hate to see the end of it...
The idea of investing in YouTube channels and earning a percentage of the revenue is an incredible way to diversity your portfolio. However, this valuation is unbelievably overvalued
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Sir Luco2022-07-24 07:34:10 (edited 2022-07-24 07:34:57 )
This is sadly a desperate somewhat last resort type idea. We’re missing something here.. & I hate that this situation has come forth. Let’s no rush into this gentlemen. Wishing the best as always! One of my favorite channels by far. (No way the value is correct.)
From the website: "I do not expect that you will receive a substantial amount of dividends for quite some time. Disrupt is an early stage startup and should be viewed as a long-term investment, rather than a quick return. As such, if you invest $100 today, do not expect to receive more than a few cents for many years to come."
I feel like selling a channel is like an artist trying to sell his art form.
What is the point? Only one person can create the art.
I'm always disappointed when YouTube channels go for the money instead of the content. Because if you provide something great, the money will come.
You have a wonderful channel. But it's because you have the channel and maintain it.
If you sell parts of your channel like stock, it means other people have control over your art form, meaning it can easily descend into garbage like so many other channels have..
Ultimately it is your choice. I don't know the details behind it. But I hope you continue to provide awesome content for people that you make yourself for your own reason.
But I have had my YouTube channel for 12 years and made 4,500 videos, and though I'm not a graphic artist, the content is if anybody wants to give me 10 million I'm all over it. 😀 (I may not be a graphics expert, but the words are there)
It looks like this money is being raised to cover the $500,000 debt Jak accrued when he bought the rest of the channel from the other founder. It's in their financials at the WeFunder link. Also, Jak himself says on the Disrupt disbursements page that investors won't make more than a few cents from their investment for "years to come." I'd be very wary of "investing" in this project. Think of it like a donation, if anything.
Yeah If he reaches 500k than he will just pay back the debt that the company defaulted on. Not a cent of more money for channel to develop new content, just paying back stupid loan. The guy who is owed 500k was doing the work for the equity that was bought out, so if you account for it, net income will be lower once Jak hires a person in his place. It may be profitable but barely. Not worth any investment.
interesting how he'll happily mention the other reason for investment and not just "oh yeah I've also just racked up a huge debt that I'm not sure I can support for 5 years"
@Crying cookie Go to the link in the description and look for the financial reporting document. Scroll all the way to the bottom and read the last bulletpoint. It’ll mention the defaulted $500K promissory note to a previous partner.
@Fidelio because no one wants to willingly pay off another person's debt, especially when you work hard for what you got and the economy is near the edge of collapse.
It doesn't matter what it looks like. A scam is what it actually is. The creator and someone else on his team have been joking about how easy it will be to scam their viewers on Discord since mid-May. I've seen it. DO NOT GIVE DISRUPT MONEY!
If you were honest about the real reason you need that money (to pay back debt), people would have actually donated. Stop it until its to late, give the ones who invested their money back and start a fundraiser instead.
“Disrupt will use approximately $500,000 of the Campaign proceeds to pay off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder's counsel, and to pay Disrupt's legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF.”
i won’t lie, this made me lose a lot of respect for disrupt as a whole. your financials aren’t exactly pristine, especially in regards to your balance sheet (specifically the liability to asset ratio), and as such, asking for people to invest for equity in a channel with a bogus, grossly inflated valuation seems nothing short of a scam to me. others are free to do as they see fit, but this seems entirely contrived and nonsensical to me.
After looking through the other projects on wefunder I can pretty confidently say this website is nothing but scams. Most of them spit out the same buzzwords on repeat while selling snake oil to people not informed enough to see through. I'm disappointed in you Disrupt, thought you were better than this.
$100 is a lot, if I was a patron who wanted to support the channel by giving a donation to create content this is a more enticing alternative. But as someone that can live without most YouTube content I consume I wouldn’t ‘invest’ in it hoping for a return.
My main problem with this is we have no idea how much of that debt to the co-founder has been paid back, and if he doesn't pay back the remaining debt including interest at the end of the 5 years, what will it mean for this channel and my investment?
I think Disrupt is genuinely one of the best creators on this platform but the numbers don't add up. This is sketchy. Man's basically taking donos to pay off debt... This isn't a good investment y'all.
dude, open a patreon. your viewers are more than willing to help you pay off debt if you need that.
don't know anything about finance but this felt really strange when i started watching... the explanation in the comments made it even worse. i respect the time, money and effort that go into the high quality videos and look forward to your ambitious plans for the future but this is just not it. def not the way to go about it.
They are valuing their company at 5M dollars, so 100 dollars gets you a 0.002% share of profits after they pay for expenses and salary. Disrupt make great videos. I imagine they spend a lot on making them. Can’t imagine profit being huge.
I've been loving this channel for the past 2 years I've been subbed. But there's gotta be a different way around this man, I have a feeling shits gonna hit the fan.
Read financial statements. It's a trap. Jak (the main narrator) bought half of Disrupt for $500 000 from a second owner. Jak defaulted on that loan almost immediately. The crowdfunding is required to pay back the loan that Jak defaulted on. Don't buy stuff you can't afford man. Look at company financials, their revenue doesn't support 10M valuation. Person who was doing the work for "free" and had 50% equity ownership is not included in the cost of revenue but eventually cost the company $500k. Once you account for that, this company may be barely profitable. This company is not worth 10M.
@Charliezard Jak shouldn't have taken 500k loan that he can't pay back and has defaulted on. Why do you want to pay back his debt of 500k which he used to buy back 50% of company shares? You can get just 10% of shares in return for the same price, it's not a good deal. Someone here is trying to milk you out of money, otherwise you would be able to buy 50% of a company for 500k.
@00FF00 Yeah I agree, I'm not defending him. I previously stated it's a scam on the financial aspect but if you like the channel and want them to keep producing high quality videos then a donation is an idea
@TrumpetWizard they are selling %10 in shares, your math would make it worth 100M. There is literally no way that this company is even worth a million without the 500k debt.
Video is currently at 40k views but has 10k likes in less than 2 hours. That does not fit the like to view ratio of other videos at all and given the subject matter, I'd even suspect like bots. Which really sucks because I liked a lot of what this channel was.
I absolutely disagree that Hollywood is old and inefficient. I understand you want to make feature-length content 100% digitally, but films and content are different things. Keep up the good work, you’re doing great this way.
They are selling 250k shares (if I recall correctly)
They offer 23 shares for 100$
If those 250k shares are 20% (you can go to their site to see the details)
Then if they made 100,000$ in profit. You would get 1.84$ of the 20,000$ profit shared. It would take you over 50 years to break even.
If they make 1 million at the same 20% cut, it would take less take 6 years.
So after you verify the numbers for yourself, you have to ask: 1)what is their annual profit? 2)what portion of that will get reinvested and what portion will get distributed 3) how long do most content creation groups last? 4) is there a bigger fish that would eat most of the profit in the pond?
Unless you can find their revenue information somewhere reliable including which portion is free profit. Then I wouldn't consider it an investment. Falls more in line with a gamble or a donation. Neither of which would you have a reasonable expectation to get something in the long run.
Going by 5:52 score (music) and location mentioned on screen, i’d like to commend the disrupt team on their political views, while at the same time keeping your show non political, as it’s supposed to be. Good shit.
TL;DR Disrupt wants you to buy a share in the channel otherwise the channel can´t continue to make high quality content and the channel won´t grow. What´s not disclosed in the video is that the lion share (460 000 out of 500 000 dollars asked for) is going to pay of a debt.
I´m sure you could have raised the amount of money to pay off the debt without misleading your audience. The "equity crowdfund" sum of 500 000 dollars are not going to be used for making more content and higher quality dito, the money is not needed because "entertainment industry is riddled with inefficiency"; ergo costly. You know how i know this? Let me explain by summarizing the review about Disrupts financials year 20-21: This channel was co-founded by two members let´s call them J1 and J2, they both owned 50 percent each of the channel. Last year J1 decided, for reasons not known, to buy J2´s share for the sum of, wait for it, 500 000 dollars. Since Disrupt Corp. doesn't have 500 000 dollars laying around J1 instead struck a deal with J2 and agreed upon a quarterly payment of 29 000 dollars for a five year period when the principal sum shall be paid in full. In the financial review it stipulates, and this is the important part, that J1 has agreed to equity crowdfund 10 percent of Disrupt corp. to pay the remaining member buyout in full. That means that the remaining payment to J2 (460 000 dollars) will be paid with the 500 000 dollars J1 want you to "invest" in the Disrupt channel. The amount Disrupt need to pay in lost credibility is not mentioned in the review, but If I could speculate it will have a longer payback period than five years.
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Sophie Eevee2022-07-24 06:46:54 (edited 2022-07-24 07:51:26 )
I used to love his content and watched all his videos because they were interesting, the high editing quality made them even more enjoyable to watch. Though that probably is one of the reasons this happened. My first 2 thoughts was either he got hacked, or he has become so desperate to get money he considers scamming or some other deceptive way to get money I quickly realized it is the latter It saddens me to see people I respect abandon their morals for money
Hm. Partner disputes magically make a company worth multiple times its fair market price? Keep in mind he is giving himself a valuation of roughly $7/subscriber. Even without the defaulted debt, that’s a little steep don’t you think? For about 2 seconds I was intrigued till I saw all of this in the financials. I do greatly enjoy your content though and perhaps a more reasonable valuation or much larger % share allocation would be more realistic Giving away 10% of your studio can hardly be called decentralizing. Would you feel like a company you worked for was decentralized if your boss held 90% of the power? It becomes optional to care about the other 10%, the game theory just doesn’t line up either.
So basically, a YT Channel turned into an "LLC" and valued at 10.7 million, and net profit isn't even 100k+ for the Financial year 2020-2021. If the net profit was 10 million, the valuation would make sense. But you are valuating a "YouTube Channel" by converting it into "LLC Company" and valuing it at 10.7 million USD; meanwhile, if your channel gets 3 strikes and it's deleted forever. That is something you can't control. Your so-called "Business" doesn't even have a guaranteed future. All Disrupt+ Premium sales are through YouTube Fanpage; your "Business" would go Bankrupt the next day whenever third-party "YouTube" wishes.
Also, he's selling 10% of his business "YouTube Channel" if we do the math, if he net profits of $100,000 the first year, he "Disrupt LLC" keeps $90,000 and we "investor" keep $10,000, which is then divided into the number of investors according to shares Disrupt LLC is made of "2,500,000 Shares" he owns "2,250,000 Shares", and we own "250,000 Shares" for $10,000 of profit if you own 1 share you get $0.04 profit if you/us own 2 shares $0.08 goes into your/our pocket. Quite the investment! LOL
Not sure if it's a good idea to invest in a "business" that is 100% based on a third-party's "YouTube"' decision; if third-party "YouTube" decides to ban your account, your "Business" for whatever reasons or ban the Gmail account, basically your business went bankrupt? You have no other option but to submit an appeal or make a new YouTube Channel? Also, the Appeal's decision depends on the third-party's "YouTube" decision; you have no control over your own "Business"?? Weird??
Not sure if it will give anyone enough assurance that the business' future is secured, and in case something happens, the only way to revive the company is via an "Appeal", which depends on a third-party's "YouTube" decision where you "Disrupt LLC" has 0 control over it, compared to an actual business which you can restore with few extra money and some use of brain to avoid bankruptcy/insolvency...
Also the fact your “Business” can be hacked if someone hacked your Gmail account basically that’s it, that’s the end of Disrupt LLC?
Good Luck to people investing in this "Business" read carefully; they mentioned, "IF YOU INVEST $100 EXPECT *CENTS* OF PROFIT FOR THE FIRST FEW YEARS". This means you get approximately under 1% or 0.1% ROI for the first few years of your investment. Seems very Sketchy!
IF YOU ARE INVESTING, THINK OF IT AS A DONATION FOR THE FIRST 5-7 YEARS, "DISRUPT LLC" MIGHT APPLY FOR INSOLVENCY AFTER A FEW YEARS AS IT IS A "LLC" (LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY); THE BUSINESS WON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING YOUR INVESTMENT WILL BE GONE IN TRASH BECAUSE IT'S A LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY. (Please research before investing, its a widespread scam companies/people do)
("10.7 Million Valuation" when you don't even make revenue of 500k USD) LOL!
As a programmer this channel always inspires me to learn new things both in my field and in others. The idea of support being investment based not only helps you reach the funding goal faster and gives back to the investor, but gives the investor greater interest in the success of this project. Really impressive idea. When i can i'll invest. Thank you for all your videos over the years.
Big yikes. Interested to see your response after this, Disrupt....
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Big Yeet2022-07-23 22:01:48 (edited 2022-07-23 22:01:57 )
A share of the 'profits' sounds good but it's dependant on costs, which you mainly decide. Ie. you can decide salaries among other things. I want to support but not as an investor (unless shareholders get a say in things/votes).
Oh yeah it is a total scam, if this was truly a good investment, there are VC funds and private equity that would back this along with other large conglomerate YT channels that do similar investing styles.
@krzysiula Your valuation is based entirely on feelings and emotions, and not on facts. Look at their balance sheet. Their gross revenue is 200,000 per year. The corporation is $466,000 in debt. With gross monthly earnings of about $16,000 and debts of $9,666 per month, their DTI is 58%. That's horrendous. And keep in mind that is GROSS revenue and not NET. Not to mention the fact that the founder defaulted on a promissory note to his co-founder which literally just opens the door to a lawsuit. If that comes, this company is dead in the water.
Their valuation is absurd. The cash flow is tiny, they defaulted on a 450k+ debt that they're repaying with 6% interest. They're being dishonest by omission.
Jak has to make quarterly payments of $29,029.35 or until he pays $500,000 + 2.5% interest, to his previous partner, Jordan Warren, due to Jak buying him out. You will make hardly anything if the channel stays at a constant growth rate for the next 20 years if you invest. Also, the shares you buy in the company are non-voting, so you'll have no say in matters regarding the channel or VR media production. If you even remotely considered investing through the Wefund, please look into the financials. Enough thorough investigation into this will bring you to the same conclusion as me; This "Investment" is to pay off Jak's debt to Jordan. This is scummy and I'm expecting a @Coffeezilla video on this in the future.
do not do this thinking it is a lucrative investment opportunity. if you want to spend money to support the channel, without any intention of seeing a profit, that is fine. but the numbers dont add up to this being any sort of reasonable investment opportunity.
disappointed in disrupt for framing it this way. honestly, as an animator myself I really love the content they're showing off. in a traditional crowdfunding model I would be happy to be a drop in the monetary bucket to see more. and the idea of making it an actual investment, even if it is a financially bad one, is great. lifetime access to disrupt+ could easily be worth what you're asking alone, and knowing that if the channel blows up, or its future content is sold to a major streaming platform, you get some monetary compensation for being an early investor is nice. what you get for the money seems worth it to me. but only when you factor in the non-investment perks, from the angle of an investment alone, the valuation is too high, and the risk far too high as well.
I will be indicating my interest. this is, on its own, a convincing video for the one time purchase for a lifetime subscription to disrupt+. and I want to see you succeed. But I would like to see the balance sheet change, your valuation is too high. and I would like to see an updated video which frames this opportunity in a better light. you are all talented people I want to succeed, and this channel has made some great content. I would hate for it to be tainted by a well intentioned but easily misinterpreted video. its a good offer, just not a good investment. you should acknowledge that in the video.
Love the channel and I do see potential for a program like this if the situation was a bit different. It doesn't seem as underhanded as some are claiming because it is disclosed for anyone who takes the time to read through the financials.
HOWEVER, I think it would be more effective as "I am going to lose my channel and be bankrupt and I need help." In the creator's mind this is a crowdfunding source with potential that the supporters will receive return in the future. I don't think it was clear enough on the surface and full transparency would have been best. I could see large YT channels spreading something like this around and 500k over large audiences is certainly possible. At this point I would pull it and rebrand it as fully transparent. Its embarrassing to ask for help but in this situation I think it would work better as a plea (with some potential for small returns in the future) rather than an investor sales pitch.
Even putting the obvious problems aside, I have no clue from this video or from the channel itself what we'd even be "investing" in. It's a YouTube channel, nothing is particularly unique about it to justify anyone other than the actual creators investing money into it for the purpose of eventual profit. If you're saying we should invest in the metaverse, any talk about investing and profit is so insanely premature.
You guys produce AMAZING content. Youtubers do seem to be getting squeezed financially. Creative thinking about this problem is laudable. I'd advise against this particular approach. Even small investors can sue you if you make decisions that may harm their position. Maybe the plan will work. Youtubers are already selling their content outside of YouTube for additional income. One of those outlets may be worth exploring.
Sad to see this happen. This channel has produced some of my favorite videos. Hope you stay afloat, but it doesn’t look like you’re going down Path A.
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Lord Akira2022-07-24 03:27:40 (edited 2022-07-24 03:33:21 )
After putting the pieces together now, I somewhat see the timeline. I'm assuming Disrupt was always about becoming its own stand-alone streaming platform, which at the time of channel's launching, made sense since everyone and their mother on this platform had one or was putting out sponsored content on one. Disrupt+ launched and unfortunately streaming was oversaturated by then, and turning the free content into a meager drip-feed on here didn't foster into attracting subscribers over yonder. Now that tech is bombing overall, be it streaming or software platforms from Google to Meta performing hiring freezes, layoffs, or underperforming on the stock market, a last ditch effort to square up the bill for a former LLC member was launched, most likely based on the value of his services which I'm assuming were based on whatever speculation was given to Disrupt+ at the time. Now, we're to somehow believe a channel that's already defaulted on a legal obligation and has only grossed $200K last year prior to expenses and liabilities is valued at $10.7M. It's not a scam necessarily, just seems like a once-reputable channel of amazing content trying to pull the wool over its fans' eyes for bad business decisions in the hopes that they effectively donate to shore up for the consequences.
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The Gr0nch2022-07-23 21:18:11 (edited 2022-07-23 21:18:37 )
This seems like a good donation premise but a Terrible "Investment". Just be wary of that if you are to buy in. Any other channel would straight up look like a scam, as well.
Yeah I was looking at that to. I would have a hard time wanting to investing in a YouTube channel to begin with because of how quickly things change on here
Honestly I don't think it's a great channel either his editing are so distracting and unnecessary it makes a lot of content hard to enjoy. I've subscribed for years but only ever finished like 5 of his videos.
Wow, okay. Watched the first minute and thought it sounded interesting, seeing as I'm a huge fan of the channel, then scrolled down. Did not expect to find this!
Edit: The criticism definitely sounds fair. He seems to be going about this the right right way at least, since he's not accepting any money at this time and just trying to gauge interest. Hopefully we see a follow-up discussing the feedback he's received in the comments!
Although your videos are produced immensely well. There was always something about this channel that left a sour taste in my mouth… and that’s been confirmed with this.
i like the idea of this! it’s cool! even if it were still a slightly longer term investment i would consider it. i am disappointed that there seems to be an over evaluation of the company and that my funds would pay for jak’s mistakes rather than more genuine company expenses like product, staff etc.
You guys are one step below opening your own game studios. I hope you guys get the funding you need so Disrupt can thrive as a company. You guys provide some of the best content on YouTube, you rival the more traditional studios with high budgets and larger staffs.
It's an interesting idea, but I think it should have been phrased more as a way to support the channel rather than an investment, which I think people would have been happy to do. A donation to the channel wouldn't be a crazy ask, especially for producing content as high quality as this. I do love this channel but I can't imagine it ever getting big enough that you would make any sort of money back on an investment of $100
Ok, this feels sketchy. Really sketchy. The balance sheets don’t exactly look spectacular, the valuation is insane, what’s with the $500k promissory note? All said, thinking about this a little bit in terms of perks, you’re buying lifetime access to the premium content and getting paid some dividends to do so for the price of a bit under 2 years of said premium content. While I don’t see any YouTube channel lasting forever, I would at least hope that a channel calling for investors should last longer than 2 years on the capital invested at the bare minimum. I’ll try out Disrupt+ first and if I think it’s worthwhile I might buy in.
Look dude I love your channel and I wouldn't mind this as long as you keep making quality content but I do mind you lying and showing little respect for your fans for not saying you're using the money to pay off debt and saying you're using it to improve the content wich is entirely false.i will still keep watching your content but if you don't answer or apologize then people will lose respect of you and your channel including me wich directly affects you and the people you work with
Please look into this before you post that. He originally bought half the channel for a 500000 loan and defaulted imideatly. He's pretty much just looking to pay back his friend. Check the balance sheets and ROI
dude, you could've just say that “we have debt. We need to pay it. To be able to continue this channel your donation will be a great help” Instead of scamming people with this investment thing. I'm not really good at business stuffs but people are not that dumb dude.
As you have stated you are testing the waters here I will not pass any final judgement. What I will say is that, having read your financial statements myself, as an investment you seem to be greatly overvaluing your company. Additionally, the public seems to know the root cause of this. Your liabilities are almost 550k. Your income is roughly 330k to match that. I am all for donating to the channel. I am all for your trying to ensure your success with your own streaming platform. I am all for opening up donations to request financial support. What I am not for is trying to pretend this is an investment. As a donation with the potential of future rewards, sure. But this us is not an investment.
What has happened is that you are leveraging the good will of your audience in an attempt to correct a very very bad loan, and instead of begging pathetically for donations, you are offering a potential of future gains with it. While i don't appreciate the lying by omission, it is understandable. Your content has earned you the good will to leverage here, and many of us will fork over a few sold crypto currencies or shares to 'invest' in Disrupt. However: good will is a resource like any other and doing this will make it spent. We will still watch Disrupt content but henceforth do not be surprised if people do not trust your business endeavors for a while.
If you are serious about investments, I would recommend getting yourself audited by a third party to be %100 clear and transparent about details we need to know are true.
Really a bad way to go about this. Love the channel and videos but raising money to pay off debt by selling a revenue shares disguised as “equity” is a scam at best. The company can just pay out salaries equal to profits and never show any real revenue and there’s no liquidity to the “equity” on any market so you are stuck waiting to get payed out money in dividends to cover the investment. Please don’t do this “investment” for any other reason than to support the channel. You will not get your money back or any profit.
Apart from the grossly inflated valuation you've just kind of slapped over the whole thing without thought as to where it comes from, you didn't even get the basics right. You are really banking on a select few people loving this channel enough that they pay your loans for you; I mean you didn't even make it an appealing sell. Why wouldn't an investor just give their money to Disney or Coca Cola and get a guaranteed return almost immediately?
I hope you're able to pay back the 500k you took out to make these videos, because they are seriously fantastic. Don't go and get more loans from more and more shady people. I think we all would've preferred you start a GoFundMe with the expressed purpose of helping pay back your loans. I know lots of would've been willing to help.
Crazy concept on YouTube, but I guess no different from the stock market. At the very least, fan buying could be considered sponsorship or a donation. At best, it could be much more. With that said, I would hope it is written into the T's and C's that Disrupt can't just liquidate/declare bankruptcy and/or start new channels that don't net investors profit.
Sounds really cool though as a way to support channels. There were ads, then merch, then lots of crypto/NFT scams, now equity? This could be something ground-breaking, provided it's not a scam of some kind (not that I'm suggesting it is).
Big respect for wherever you take the channel. Been watching for about 2 years and loved every video edit : despite my love for the videos and production quality, this is really sketchy. Needless to say I’m pretty disappointed in the way this was handled. Very misleading. I encourage everyone to read all the details and do your own research
Please look into this before you post that. He originally bought half the channel for a 500000 loan and defaulted imideatly. He's pretty much just looking to pay back his friend. Check the balance sheets and ROI
really like your content. and I'm really ashamed that this popped up in my feed. i wouldn't have minded if you decided to sell merch. or invested with the money you already had from the channel back into making higher quality videos. i would kill to have that type of following and if I did I would be taking my own advice. you can make more and do more with your channel but shadily crowd sourcing to strangers is kind of sad.
You make amazing content but this is the worst possible way to source funding for your content. As most of the comments say, you should’ve just opened a patreon
I don't think I've ever seen a channel do this before. This is REALLY flashy for only selling 10% of the company right now (would've expected about 20%). Shame it probably wouldn't be a good investment from the discussion I saw over the balance sheet.
If we do ignore the facts about financials of Disrupt, this is essentially artistic stuff that needs investment. They are already using Unreal Engine which suits the name 'disrupt' but it is actually a free tool and it looks great! There doesn't seem to be any real need for extra money for producing content.
I guess we can compare the business model to Corridor Digital which uses its own website as an extra source of income. They are doing great and I am sure their graphs look like a straight slope going upward left to right. SO, essentially Disrupt can do the same, providing paid content access on their website (which shouldn't cost more than income generated via 2-3 of these videos)
"I do not expect that you will receive a substantial amount of dividends for quite some time. Disrupt is an early stage startup and should be viewed as a long-term investment, rather than a quick return. As such, if you invest $100 today, do not expect to receive more than a few cents for many years to come."
I respect them for admitting that. Anyone who's serious about investing should know that they're basically donating to keep the channel running with a tiny chance of making back some of it.
Did he admit any of this in the video? No. That’s why he lost my respect for the channel. He’s misleading people that don’t do their homework. I was thinking this might be a cool idea, until I see these comments pointing to the hidden boiler plate about why he needs the money. Not impressed at all. Feel manipulated
@Stein Lone this issue is if he simply ASKED for donations and was upfront people would be skeptical but do it out of the enjoyment for the channel. Calling it an investment sets certain expectations and not mentioning the key details in the video is misleading at best.
@DCJ this is sketchy my friends now im not gonna call you dumb for investing in it but I will say I find it apauling yall arent seeing the picture....this is just to pay off his debt that he has and the balance sheets show the "company" is not worth that much and probably wont be.
I took a look at the financial records and saw this at the end of the statement. In summary, 500K of the money raised from the equity offer will be used to pay off the defaulted Promissory Note balance to the co founder who was bought out a little while ago.
"Jak has agreed to equity crowdfund 10% of Disrupt to pay the remaining member buyout in full, expand the operations of Disrupt, and bring high-quality content to new markets.
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"Disrupt has defaulted on a Promissory Note with a prior member of the company and as of May 23rd, 2022 currently owes the Noteholder a Note Balance of $466,179.87 on which interest is accruing at a rate of 2.5% per annum. Disrupt will use $500.00 of the Campaign proceeds to pay off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder’s counsel, and to pay Disrupt’s legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF.
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I love this channel and all, but this seems REALLY sketchy. I don’t think your company can even afford a buy-back, like actual shares. This is kinda shady.
I will still pay the monthly disrupt membership, but given the comment section and my love for the content and production value, I will have to look into it. I hope for you the best.
this is just to raise capital on a defaulted loan... inflated valuation with uncertain returns (no one stays relevant on youtube forever!) and i think the bad reputation they have taken for this has likely been negotiated into this cost, the returns are on a varying income (ad revenue and people actually using your platform), even if your channel goes down the toilet (by the looks of it it may), you will still have raised the capital to clear any debts...
I had a feeling before that you were using Unreal for your animations, guess I was right. I plan on getting a Valve Index in the future so I am eager to see what you create, but I'm not sure if I have the money to help invest
this makes me sad, hope yall become a bit more transparent in the future instead of hyping up a unreasonable investment strategy to subsidize your legal fees.... love the content and best wishes to you all... but I can't support this decision. looking forward to the next update.
We should invest in some weird company that would make living in virtual reality a REAL thing(for fun)
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Da Batman2022-07-23 21:39:46 (edited 2022-07-23 21:40:07 )
This is a scam. From what I read in the comments, you’re just asking for 10M cause you’re in debt. Just stream on Twitch or start a go fund me. Anything other than this. This entire ad gave me a Cryptoland vibe
This channel makes fantastic content, but calling helping bailing out on a partial buyout an investment on future supposed value is...sketchy at best. Re-evaluate dude.
While I think this video is extrremely deceiving of what the money will directly be used for, I think we should also take into account that they are trying to continue producing content for their entertainment ecosystem, and as long as they are in a +466k$ debt that is extremely complicated, especially with a profit margin so small that comes with creating a video/audio entertainment lybrary of content, so, while I wouldn't personally give money to this as an invetment, I would rather prefer a video explaining the situation and asking for direct support in form of donations since that would feel more transparent and I would be more comfortable donating 20$ for small perks rather than being sold the idea of this as an investment with the intent to generate you money when realistically you will never recover said investment, especially with the absurd unrealistic valuation of the company and minimun paywall of 100$ which to somepne like myself represents a substantial amount of money.
At the bottom of the financial disclosure, it mentions an existing default on a promissory note of roughly $500K, and a statement that you intend on using up to $500K from this investment to pay off that debt, as well as the note-holder’s legal fees.
Considering your relative financial standing, I think investment is an incredibly risky venture at this point. A venture capital investment firm would expect a tighter valuation and larger equity stake, which is I assume why you’re crowdfunding the investment. It seems like you’re hoping the masses don’t look into your financial statements…
You should recover with the things that made you be in the state you are now, not make a decision you don't know if it's worth it. Just don't play with people's money and stay transparent, because thats where all the respect we have for you is going
Why not just create a Patreon? That way, people support your future endeavours, and they own no portion of your YouTube channel which allows you to make whatever content you want, isn't that what YouTube is all about anyways?
I'd like to invest as the work is good and that's a great idea however I'd just expect Holywood to offer the team silly money once their skills are up to scratch and they'll simply leave. You won't be able to match the money.
So many of my favourite channels are turning out to just be scams (not that this is one), i’d say go for this if you want, but this is likely going to be used to pay off debt.
Definitely a shame to see one of your favorite channels try to blatantly mislead people into giving up their own hard-earned money to pay off personal debts.
I did not see this as an investment opportunities but a way to help out </disrupt> if that means invest on a highly speculative asset so be it. Hope that they succeed as I love the content. But please do your research and never invest more than your willing to loose as that is the main thing you always need to be aware of.
The content is incredible, but niche. The valuation is in Thanos territory. I'm shocked and disappointed by this tact. ROI is virtually zero. There were other more conducive ways to appeal for more capital.
Shame, I did not expect this from one of the greatest channels on youtube, I'm pretty sure this is the death of your channel, a lot of people will unsubscribe.
Hey, We love your channel. But most of the viewers don't like the idea of investment. Instead of that, make a proposal for Patreon, it will be beneficial.
Looking over your general presence in social media beyond YouTube, its extremely negligible and cannot support something like this when eventually YouTube decides it does not support systems like this (If it does not already). This is a bubble at best, and something that will take your credit/bank info at the worst.
"I’m a fan of disrupt, however this is a terrible investment and he’s misleading viewers by not disclosing the fact that he’s using the majority of this money to pay off bad debt, NOT to improve “production” or make “films”
The only way you’d find that is buried in the last page of the financial disclosure document where you can discover that Jak has defaulted on a $500K buyout from his partner, In exchange for 50% of the channel. However he was unable to pay this full amount. So now he’s trying to raise $500,000 in exchange for !!!10% of the channel!!?
This is completely absurd, and that’s not even mentioning the insane valuation of $10 million which is 100X their net profit which as a YouTube channel owner of similar size I can tell you is NOT fair value.
I’ve personally reached out to disrupt in hopes of clearing this up and finding out if there’s more to the story, but for now Id just like to warn people to get all the facts before they “invest”.
As I said at the start of this, I’m a fan of their channel and hope that they can find some less shady way of raising money, and I wish them all the success, but misleading fans is NOT the way forward." - Coffeezilla
Never thought I'd see youtube channels being "investments" with actual shares. I can't do it. I don't even need to see charts to know that this is a bad idea. Good luck though
Even knowing very little about stocks I can tell you the way you worded this is fuckin’ sketchy.
Not everybody is gonna understand that you’re selling 10% to be divided amongst everybody that “invests” with you. With your audience + the $500,000 debt you conveniently forgot to mention here that $100 isn’t seeing any return for a long time.
You’re lucky your content is great because this is enough to get most channels banished to the shadow realm.
May want to consider taking this down before it does more damage to your channel's image. Remember when Netflix tried to release Qwikster? People and companies recover from bad moves all the time, but you have to realize you made a mistake and do a 180. Good content, bad move.
wefunder has terrible BBB rating that stopped me from funding(but coming back to read other people's comments regarding the financials definitely stopped me from thinking about funding
After reading the comments, I think Disrupt first needs to
1. Give proof of what the money is for, no bad ties inside.
And second,
2. Disrupt doesn't screw over the buyers that spent money, it's bad giving money to the poor but that poor person buys it for alcohol
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The Roof Sniper2022-07-24 02:30:35 (edited 2022-07-24 02:31:16 )
i dont know much about all this trading and investing shite but from what ive gathered from other commenters, this is completely ridiculous. ive been a fan of this channel for as long as i can remember it existing and i seem to have lost a good amount of respect. disrupt is so much better than this :(
This video currently has 32,000 views but 120,000$ ”invested”. Is it just me, or is that 120k ”invested” from 30,000 people absolutly unreasonable? It rather seems like they had people invest im this ahead of time, to make it seem more realiable than it is
Something feels off about the numbers, the views are currently 130k and the donations are at 160, meaning that even though the views increased by 4 times the money has gone up by a third. Everything about this feels sketchy. Love the channel, and sucks that it will forever be scarred by whatever the hell this is
I’m now just waiting for the apology video, and post on social media, for what is akin to buying a box of air on eBay. You definitely got “something” for your money, so it wasn’t an outright scam, but did you really get “something”????????
Selling 10% of the Channel then shows 20% less than a minute later, no equity value posted, pulls a 10 million studio evaluation from who knows where…..dude just call it a crowd fund no one is making money here. That’s predatory and you will lose your channel if you continue this.
I really love this channel but funding it in this way seems like a guaranteed loss of investors money. Id recommend patreon or even the YouTube membership program to help ur channel and ur debt. Just a thought🫡
As many others have already said, doesn't look like a good investment. It probably would have been wiser to try raising money through Patreon and other conventional means other big channels use.
I mean, the channel's content is good, not denial of that (even I'm considering the subscription to d+), but by checking the info and there seems to be something misty here, including the debt of the founders and the honesty to say "do not expect more than a few cents in the next years". However, why not going or looking also to another possible schemes? Like Patreon, live content, the merchandise, maybe following another schemes (I'm thinking in Kurzgesagt example, but I'm not sure if this is a possible path). Also, $100 during these times, it seems to be a big money quantity.
at first i thought that was a joke but then i started to read the comments.. personally i find this as a horrible idea 🙁 i’ve been watching your channel for two-three years
Seems like you’ll get about $2/year back on your $100 investment unless the channel sees exponential growth year over year. That’s the 10% of $130k net from this year, spread out among 5,000 investors (i.e. $100 per investor to reach $500k funding goal).
Even after paying off the debt (which saves around $100k per year from the quarterly payments), you’d only get $4 if that went straight back to profit.
30k subs past month, means 25% growth this year. So, best case it looks like ~$5 per year per investor if those new subs translate directly and linearly to same net profit.
I’m no financial person though, so someone feel free to correct me. Love this channel, but send that $100 as a gift, not an investment.
I miss when your videos were about gaming. It's a shame that it's literally come to scamming your fans to make good on a debt that is not our responsibility.
Disrupt, I love your videos, but I'm sad to see you go down this rabbit hole of disaster. I believe you are making a huge mistake by not telling the whole truth to us in a video trying to convince us to invest in your studio. The lovely folks down in the comments and I know you will use the money you earn from this glorified scam to pay off your debt from when you bought the channel, so please stop trying to mask this and tell us the truth. You also didn't release crucial information that a sane investor would like to know before investing, such as how much money you earn per month. Please, change something or cut the crap. It's truly heartbreaking to see my favorite channel turn to scamming to pay off a debt. Have a good day/night.
I feel like you should just have made this a dono. None of this adds up at all, even discounting ROI. No real quality perks. Seems like a shady way of getting money to pay off a debt. When you have a fan base that would deliver if you just asked outright. Still gonna watch still gonna be here. But this move made me lose a lot of respect.
100$ might be too high of a barrier to entry, especially when you consider the viewer base of disrupt TV maybe 25$ or something and just have the $ pay out once a year or something
@I'll punch you In the face yeah but angel investing is meant to take 5-10 years to make back. also regardless how of much you invest it will take the same amount of time
I always thought this guy made these videos all by himself and was impressed. Turns out he’s in debt and has drained peoples money…. this has put me off his channel and “investment” ideas.
This is one of the first videos I have ever disliked. I love your content Jak, but this is such a horrible idea. Asking for donations and being clear about why (if its legal) would have been such a better way to go. Instead, you say that selling a portion of disrupt will help fund shows, film, and other content. While your terms say that it will be used to pay off a 500k debt with your previous business partner. I would be more than willing to help by donation with clear reasoning, but im not invented in a 10-40 million evaluated YouTube channel with no way to actually get my investment back through profits, not to mention that the valuation seems SUPER bloated and unrealistic. You could have asked for donations to pay off debts with a share of the channel in return as a "thank you", but instead this share program is used under the guise of content. I dont think its done out of complete negligence; paying of debts and such would allow more time, energy, and money to be sent to the content, but dammit just say that instead of hiding the debts and reasoning why you're doing this.
A follow up video to address these concerns we all have would be GREAT. I hope that happens and you don't just say "its the haters trying to bring us down".
I can't wait to see more content from you, but I won't be investing. I will donate with nothing in return if that ever becomes an option, but not until there is some more transparency.
shame on you for not mentioning: DISRUPT HAS DEFAULTED ON A PROMISSORY NOTE WITH A PRIOR MEMBER OF THE COMPANY AND AS OF MAY 23, 2022 CURRENTLY OWES THE NOTEHOLDER A NOTE BALANCE OF $466,179.87 ON WHICH INTERST IS ACCURING AT A RATE OF 2.5% PER ANNUM. DISRUPT WILL USE APPROXIMATELY $500,000 OF THE CAMPAIGN PROCEEDS TO PAY OFF THE NOTE BALANCE, TO PAY LEGAL FEES TO THE NOTEHOLDER'S COUNSEL, AND TO PAY DISRUPT'S LEGAL AND REGULATORY FEES IN COMPLICANCE WITH REG CF.
Apparently, from the comment section, Disrupt is struggling with debt. Although money management could have been an issue the bottom line is that no banks are willing to loan him any additional cash. Even if the best bank were a fan of Disrupt's videos it is just not happening. So, in efforts to repay the debt with high interest rates quickly, this "shareholder" business model was put into place.
It looks like the overall response is negative because of the lack of information and misleading advertising but this is no different than asking for donations to so that he could continue making videos.
Youtube puts measures in place so that creators do not fall into situations like this, but it was not substantial enough for Disrupt's situation. Donations are not as widely granted when compared to other platforms, so that might have been incentive for the creator to reword in correlation to his predicament.
IMO: this type of business structure will have a large effect on Youtube if other creators copy Disrupt's footsteps. Disrupt's evaluations are higher than reality to entice investors, which might be the reason they got into this situation in the first place.
If you are a half a million in debt,how could anyone expect to make a profit? You might be able to make the twenty nine thousand quarterly payments if you're lucky,but that means most likely any investor would not see any return for five years or more if everything goes perfectly. You would have to increase your subs to about five million or more and average around 3 million views every video at te very least. Youtube is too sketch,the censorship,banning and removing channels. Little risky now days. I wish you the best though.
Ouch, I hurts to have to unsub and leave a comment of how sketchy and uncomfortable this whole thing makes everyone. Don’t do this to us Disrupt, your too good to go this route!
So,the narrator in this video bought half of the account for 500k from the original owner. Now he wants his viewers to pay for 10% FOR THE SAME AMOUNT. Now i may not be qualified to say this,but he still hasnt paid off his debt of 500k even including the yearly salary. This is a scam, dont buy!
Edit : valuation of 10.7million for a channel that cant pull 500k views at times. Ridiculous.
this channel prolly gonna get termed for violation the tos. So yeah download his videos asap
Idk man, seems like whenever YouTube channels try to expand past a lean business model (1-3 employees) it gets much harder to sustain. If you have 10 employees and a bunch of overhead, you only need a few bad videos to run bankrupt. The whole reason Youtubers can make piles of money is because it doesn't require tons of capital investment and it's hard to loose money. Just look at the trajectories of Pewdiepie vs Smosh.
@Fidelio I don't doubt this channel makes good money, but very few channels expand their media production beyond youtube. Most YouTubers invest in their merch line that they can advertise for free, which is their huge advantage. Like Vsauce and their subscription box.
@wakka chaka Yeah he could make editing courses and all sorts, instead he got into debt and now is asking us for the money but disguising it as some sort of opportunity. The point of youtube is meant to be lower investment, high return if you do it right. he copuld b like cold fusion, instead hes becoming Logan Paul.
Love your content, always have and saw the og random videos but the content got so much better, actual comfort show in a way, Anyways. Love your content, hate this. Just sell some classy minimalist merch or some fidget shit or desk ornaments, fits your theme, not an investment opportunity. A youtube channel that is an entire entity based on how people respond, views, subs likes, it's no where near worth that much given the liability attached.
"Disrupt has defaulted on a Promissory Note with a prior member of the
company and as of May 23rd, 2022 currently owes the Noteholder a Note
Balance of $466,179.87 on which interest is accruing at a rate of 2.5% per
annum. Disrupt will use approximately $500,000 of the Campaign proceeds to pay
off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder's counsel, and to
pay Disrupt's legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF."
So you purchased the other half of the company, defaulted on payments, and now you're selling us 20% of the company's net income (not even in shares because it's an LLC)? Bro, whatever money you're going to get is going to be settling this debt. It isn't going to be going into anything new.
Props to you for actually reading the balance sheet. I see a lot of people in the comments section who didn't read it and ACTUALLY INVESTED. Correction: the company is now a registered Georgia Corporation, and no longer a Georgia LLC.
This is just sad, reminds me of the whole Connor Murphy situation. I'll probably remember this channel in a few years and come back to listen to some old videos, but this channel just got hit by a freight train. -long time supporter
There's tons of sketchy things going on here as by the info pointed out in the comments. Another thing that should be said is the amount of likes. 40k views with 10k likes is pretty irregular in 2 hours given the previous like to view ratios and how controversial the subject of this video is.
My thoughts based on a quick analysis of their financial statements:
The reason the owner of this corporation (Jak) is crowdfunding is because he defaulted on a Promissory note in which he performed a Leveraged Equity Buyout of his co-founder's share of the company. They originally founded the company and each took 50-50 equity, but then Jak bought out Jordan's 50% share of equity in the company for $500,000 at a rate of 6% per annum.
He made an initial payment of $29,000 and a secondary payment of $20,000 upon which he (likely) realized he doesn't have the money to pay Jordan back and defaulted on the promissory note on May 23, 2022. The financial statements say that $500k of the crowdfunding will be used to pay Jordan back.
Additionally, based on a rough analysis, this corporation isn't doing so hot. Disrupt has assets in the amount of $60,000, but has liabilities totaling $466,199. With gross revenues totaling $200,000 for the 2021 fiscal year, this leaves the corporation with a gross monthly income of about $16,000. It isn't difficult to see why Jak had such trouble making a $29,000 quarterly payment to his co-founder. The money just isn't there when the corporation's debt-to-income ratio is about 58%. Jak took home a $40,000 salary in 2020 and an $80,000 salary in 2021.
It's your call whether or not you want to take a chance with this corporation. Personally, I wouldn't.
EDIT: your accountant spelled "promissory" wrong on page 7 of your 20'-21' financial statements.
Very good analysis. Do you have any idea how legally binding the promissory note is? What is the consequence of defaulting and not ever having any money to pay it back?
@00FF00 Well, the promissory note is likely to hold up in court, even if the note wasn't backed by collateral. So long as the interest rates on the note aren't outrageous (which they aren't), the note is going to stand. If Jak can't find the $466,000 soon, his ex-co-founder is more than likely going to sue him (especially since there must have been some clause in the note which specified that Jak would cover Jordan's legal fees in the event of a default, since the financial statement says that Jak is covering legal fees). When that happens, Disrupt is going to go down with the ship.
@BumblingDolphin That's also funny. The principal idea that Disrupt wants us to invest in a long-term strategy (and hold our shares for a number of years before we see any real profit) is ridiculous. In the time that they state they want to produce a mini-documentary (2027) this company could be dead. We've all seen massive YouTube channels rise and fall in just a matter of a few years. Will this channel last and continue to grow until 2027? Unlikely.
I already pay for disrupt plus, if this were just a chance to grow I would be totally on board. Now that I realize it's because Jak didn't want to share and got himself into debt I'm more weary. I already gave the website my card details but it says I'm not even gonna to be charged yet. I'm thinking investing would be a bad move. I already do more than the average viewer and I won't even be saving on disrupt+ subscription for at least like two years. This seems like a no go.
Yeesh. I love your videos man, like damn they are top quality. Been here since those virus ones came out a while back. I won’t stop watching your videos but this shit is not the play. Seems outta pocket to me.
My problem with shares is that it's a scummy system for the business owners.
Shares should have never been allowed they way that they are. Dividends should be paid against the share, like a loan repayment... Share shouldn't be unlimited free money for investors, but rather a way for investors to help a company they believe in get their feet on the ground.
If additional funding is needed after the first round of shares? Introduce another round of shares to be bought.
I'd love to help this channel, absolutely. But making free money off the back of somebody's hard work beyond my initial investment? Seems scummy of me.
To go further, how much beyond the $500,000 debt repayment is needed to keep the channel going?
if you were honest about your position im sure people would be happy to help financially, but a borderline scam that relies on misleading "investors" is not the way to go and will lose you the respect you earned through your content
As one of the many that are not qualified to make paragraphs long comments on the idea, I'll just say this:
I just pray Susan doesn't see this and gets any ideas...
It's interesting, and if sustainable, glad to hear it. But not a fan of having channels being bought as stock. Feels very... Dish, very Comcast, very Cox, the type of industry I'm trying to avoid HERE. My view mainly comes from being an artist and video editor that cherishes their works and loves to see that same self pride in others, so something about having share holders in something as personal as a YouTube channel is a primal-level repulsive idea...
I'm not gonna hit dislike, but just know I feel unsteady with this...
Can anyone who knows a bit about investing / legal shed some light on this offer? Is this type of thing actually legally binding, if so how? I mean, I love this channels videos. They are always entertaining, and this guy has a great voice for the way these videos are presented. But yeah, anyone shed any light on this?
Legally binding, but it's a very small portion of the company being sold here. If it's not clear - the campaign is a desperate attempt to pay off a $500,000 debt that the creator is in. The details are linked on the campaign page, in their financials document. None of the money is going towards growing the Disrupt brand.
I don't care for any of what you said bro, if u make any decent looking videos in future I'll watch them, if not then ok. I've never given any youtuber a single penny in my life and that's never gonna change. I'm sure the sheeple will buy into this though, if u can get just one of them to do it then thousands will follow. Not for me thoughm
This was a bad decision. And I feel you all knew it was. You may get some fans to join you but I feel you are going to be losing more people than gaining singular $100s
Damn man this is terrible. Never would've thought some shady deal would be coming from you. You should've just been honest about the debt and asked for support by donations on Patreon/GoFundMe instead of creating some lucrative "investment" offer. Loved the content but this is a new low..
Rare (possibly first?) Disrupt L, but damn is it a massive one. Been a longtime fan of the content here and the evidently massive work that goes into making it, but this is a reallly sketchy idea and a little disappointing to see.
Disrupt has always been 10/10 content, but this move just feels unnecessary, and if every other comment is to be believed, misleading. Just open a patreon or accept donations in some other capacity like every other youtube channel maybe..?
Why does this feel like an NFT, Ransomware, and a rug pulling all in one?
I am sorry to not have any trust in you on this but why do you "have to sell" the channel? Why would everything have to be "restructured" if you dont sell? None of this makes sense or feels right to me. Just start a patreon like a normal person if you want extra money for larger projects. Also the $10.7 million valuation is insane.
Hopefully you all see these comments and take a step back from whatever this scam is.
this company isn't going public. there is no SEC involved here. this is just crowdfunding for a portion of micro-equity. Each dollar that you buy in with gets you 0.00004% of equity in the corporation. I didn't make that number up. 20% of equity will go to preferred "stockholders". 20/500,000 is 0.000004%
to think I subscribed to Disrupt plus two days ago lmao, I'm cancelling this and I cannoooot support you guys in good faith. talk about misleading your fanbase.
Im sorry but this really feels like a scam and money hungry "if you dont buy some of our channel we will stop!". I like your content but will have to disagree with this...
The company actually will have to go bankrupt unless they hit the goal. Jak needs the money to pay back debt that he defaulted on, that's the reason for crowdfunding. I expect the channel to stop producing content if he doesn't hit that goal, but tbh I don't know how legally binding promissory note is.
@00FF00 yea but this is the wrong way to do it. Instead of making this claim U are “Investing” they could have come out and say they really need support and start a patreon. Have not researched into why he needs money but still seems like the wrong way to do things in my opinion.
@00FF00 I think his partner would take control of the channel then. Afterwards who knows what he would do. Try to get it started with a new creator as he was involved before anyway.
Jack, you should talk to your friend whom you owe 500k too and negotiate some extra time so you can hire an expert to help you monetise the channel better and pay him back that way instead of this strange route
PONZI SCHEME First guy got 50% stake for $500k Now he wants ‘investors’ to invest $500k, to pay off first investor, in exchange for 10% of the channel…
If channel wasn’t profitable enough to pay off that $500k, how will it be profitable to pay investors back the $500k they invested for a mere 10%? It is literally impossible
if i had the american currency i'd invest.you are passionate about your job and visionary techniques you use make the content so fresh.go for it people.
Channels 10x larger report an annual net income of roughly 1 million USD. So, every 10 years they would generate roughly the speculative valuation of disrupt.
This is part 2 of NFT’s Even if there is no bad intentions it will set a bad precedent for the future of other YT channels. They will sell their own channels and easily make a pyramid scheme or just a bad deal over all.
Reading through the comments there is definitely a lot of detailed and reliable critique, but I would like to add a bit to constructive part of it all.
I am not an experienced investor and I do not posses any detailed knowledge about the behind-the-scenes of this channel. I am entirely basing this comment on this video, it's comment section and some information on the wefunder page. I am also gonna go with the assumption that this is not a scam, as other comments suggest, but rather a misguided attempt to promote an interesting idea of a fundrising campaign.
The issue is, I think, that this video is not a fundrising announcement, but a sales pitch. And the issue with sales pitches is that they do not ask for help out of a sticky situation, but instead omit details that may dissuade you from buying/investing, unless you investigate deeper. This is exactly what makes many sceptical, as many have pointed out that the investments would not go towards growth directly, but settling a debt caused by buying out the co-founder of the channel for a bit less that 500.000$.
I think in general this is a great idea. People do not only get to support a creator they like, but also potentially gain from it. However, again, the issue being, that that is not the angle this video represents. Instead, it presents like, what many here have compared it to, an investment scam. I think this promotion was a misstep. The attempt was to attract both people that seek to give support Disrupt, but also people that look for an investment opportunity. This backfired, as many here pointed out that any experienced investor would be immediately deterred by the red flags of a huge debt, unpromising finances, and a gross overestimation of company value. This also makes it seem like it aims for UNexperienced investors that do not recognize these red flags.
I also think that the 100$ minimum is not a great idea, since it dissuades the probably many people that are willing to donate, but just not that much.
Obviously this wasn't actually unsuccessful as almost 140.000$ have already been raised at the time I write this, many donators stating that they did so uncaring for profit and just wanting to help, but as the comments suggest, many have lost trust and respect for the channel. I personally will remain open-minded, but I would suggest an honest response to the criticism raised, and an approach from a different angle. This angle should focus on honesty and transparency, and portrait this campaign not as a 'great investment opportunity', but instead a 'fundraiser with benefits'
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If anyone actually ended up reading this slurry of text that I spent way too much time on, feel free to critque my points, aswell as point out any mistakes I made or things I left out so I can try to fix it.
Honestly it does sorta look like a bit of a donation though the lifetime access to Disrupt plus is like 2 years worth of it so maybe if you want lifetime disrupt then just buy this idk
While my viewership won’t be gone (yet) I do think it’s actually very sketchy to invest, without more information.. And according to coffeezilla (thank you) He’s using it to pay off bad debt, and not to improve production “quality”
Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
In the off chance you see my comment before you invest, please for the love of god read others comments. They say it better than I can, the company has defaulted and your investment is paying off their debts. It’s a horrible idea and you’re chances of seeing a return are slim to none. Disrupt would have to grow to the size of Disney for your $100 investment to have any real value. You’re getting a minuscule fraction of equity, which means your return is a minuscule fraction.
Even if his channel made $10.000 each video with 24 videos a year. You still wouldn’t see a return on your invest for many years, and that’s if the channel stays at that pace.
His content are over-edited and for me hard to enjoy, been subscribed for years because I like the premise but I don't recall ever finishing more than 5 videos. Judging by the views I can't be the only one here.
@Jake Wolf I don’t doubt it. Sometimes he definitely struggles to get to the point quick enough to keep I’m sure some people engaged enough to sit the entire thing out.
Well, yall made amazing videos and it was fun while it lasted but I can't support such an obvious money grab as this one. Good luck, unsubscribing (not like anyone cares)
So, according to your website, if you have the same income as you currently do, it will take 200 years to make my money back? Thats absolutly outragious
You could replace some of the 3d modeling with an open source community of creators submitting 3d shorts based on what you need. As long as those creators are given credit I think you could save money and prop up other digital artists at the same time. I don't know much about funding a channel like this but open source creation is a solid way to go.
Okay, so my take on it that really the only way there is a need to have the debt paid by investments and not just normal donations is by some bizarre legal obligation. That or there never was a channel buyout and this is just some scummy way to earn 500k
I have one question, If I Invest in this channel and the "Path A" is not completed and the Disrupt company goes to "Path B" I get my money back or you guys keep the money?
Yikes...This raises too many questions...Nope. Not going to fall for this one. Even as a huge fan of the channel. This is really sketchy. And this is going to cause a pretty bad fallout once word spreads and other channels get ahold of this and start exposing the channel as trying to manipulate and scam subscribers into paying for someone else's debt with a questionable service. I can already see a SunnyV2 video in the future. This is not good.
Why are the most talented people always the worst with management and financial handling ? This whole plan is unrealistic. You could have just asked for donations for a smaller scale project instead of this half-scam with crazy projections
I’d be willing to invest a decent sum if there was an in-depth video on financials (bad & good, just honest), timeline, goals, etc towards a valuation… Sorry, need more details beforehand.
"Disrupt has defaulted on a Promissory Note with a prior member of the company and as of May 23rd, 2022 currently owes the Noteholder a Note Balance of $466,179.87 on which interest is accruing at a rate of 2.5% per annum. Disrupt will use approximately $500,000 of the Campaign proceeds to pay off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder's counsel, and to pay Disrupt's legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF."
Well well well.. There is not too much to look for as an investor. If I'm buying the company, I should at least know very clearly how much profit it turns today and the revenue. Probably the profit is near zero today, but including realistic plans on growth and targets for next quarters is not an option for a serious offer. This is for no more than 10% of the company, the campaign has no upper limit so basically we are buying an ever shrinking part of only 10% of unknown dividends off pure hype. I'm not gonna lie, this sounds terrible and even arrogant/insulting to present that as an investment to an audience of fans! Feels like gauging whether you can get away with selling a corp desperate with funding with no numbers, all the good information kept for yourself.
PS: Actually you do present the numbers, there is simply no marketing material about it. I read through the financials and I doubt much people are gonna look into this. This video lacks transparency and is misleading. This is not good. You need half a million to pay back the liabilities occurred by you taking full ownership of the company a year ago. This is the target in the campaign which has no mention of any of this. Current cashflow is apparently unable to cover the full amount because the company is defaulting and now you are throwing 10% of the company away to people to get over this. I don't know what's going on, current profit (for 2021) should be enough to pay the $30k each quarter (not taking the growth of the channel into account which makes the deal fair enough). This indicates either some grave loss of market share or mismanagement since the restructuring. Given these elements I strongly doubt the crowdfunding is about getting a lot of leverage now to invest into an untapped market which is what this offer suggests. Or are you in FOMO about the Metaverse and find the liability inconvenient for taking advantage of it? The lack of clarity on this situation is concerning, and getting back to this video, this is downright shady.
Yeah no, you could've just made a 500k go fund me instead of trying to scam young investors into giving you money to pay off a debt. Stunts like this is how to lose money and trust not make anything
interesting that the funding goal is almost exactly the debt he owes to another company. bro gon lose a lot of viewers over this. might have to update those wefund stats on viewership/subs
I believe in this channel and will diversify my stock portfolio by supplementing it with some Disrupt shares. I hope this channel grows more than I hope that I keep a small portion of my investments.
i hope that by the time i get the money i can join this great idea
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Very good video's, but this is just a scam even if disrupt gets 2.2mil views monthly that he claims to get, (its closer to 750k monthly (in the past 6 months)) it would give you about $20 yearly and thats only when he gets 2.2mil views a year, but actually you wil get $7 a year. (this calculation was done fast, and should not be taken as financial advise) edit: if you buy 23 stocks that is
Have you thought about curiosity stream/nebula. Merch is also an option. There are tons of ways to turn a profit. Patrons, hell a satire attempt at an onlyfans could get some bucks in. At the end of the day though I'm not a super highly skilled business and market analysis, I just hope the quality of the content doesn't drop.
I think they didnt consult any financial professionals about this. Jak and his team just come up with this idea and miss the thought about the risk for their investor. I hope they will go to the right path. Because this is really sketchy.
interested to see how this will turn out for you guys but I won’t be investing because it seems a little weird to me along with a lot of people in the comments, sorry.
Start streaming on twitch to make more money bro. Why not get a Patreon to help and make better content? You offer this money to people in equity but why? Why not just do Patreon?
So you bought 50% of the company for 500k, but expect us to pay 100$ at a valuation of 10.7 $? (As stated on the website) Im sorry to say it, but you just lost all respect I had for you
At the bottom of the financial disclosure, it mentions an existing default on a promissory note of roughly $500K, and a statement that you intend on using up to $500K from this investment to pay off that debt, as well as the note-holder’s legal fees.
Considering your relative financial standing, I think investment is an incredibly risky venture at this point. A venture capital investment firm would expect a tighter valuation and larger equity stake, which is I assume why you’re crowdfunding the investment. It seems like you’re hoping the masses don’t look into your financial statements…
I hope anyone thinking about investing in this channel will donate that money to charity instead. I’m sorry, I really do like this channel, and the people behind it are super talented, but this is really disappointing.
Who’s to say they won’t abandon this channel after they get the money? And even if they keep uploading for years, youtube money isn’t that good. Investors will be making so little. Like a few cents a year little. I’m sorry but I can’t respect it. Good luck though I guess.
Please please PLEASE DO NOT BUY,disrupt is an amazing channel but with a channel this size it is incredibly unlikely that you will get any profit from buying shares
After reading everything on the website, it sounds like it’s going to be far too much to handle. I don’t see it being sustainable and don’t see how you guys will be making a profit for a very very long time.. I’d love to invest but I have my doubts
Just to turn your doubts into a clear no, the corporation is currently in 500k debt which was defaulted so really he had to turn to crowdfunding in order to pay the debt (which he got from taking full ownership of the channel) otherwise the channel is probably done for. In the financials it does also seem like he should have had enough money to pay the 30k each quarter for the debt, but instead it was defaulted on. This could also mean that there is a certain level of mismanagement.
Bro this is so transparently some kind of scheme. Trying to take the goodwill of a community that loves your content to the degree they do is just plain gross. Disappointed beyond words.
Sorry guys, not the best way to go about paying things off. A straightforward approach would’ve been received better and from an investing standpoint there is no visible payout in the near future unless your content skyrocketed. Another side note is that even with a large following, this is still viewed as a youtube channel by many and needs more time to become recognized as a studio with animators across the globe.
woah, I thought this was a sketch / parody of weird shady deals, but it's acutally real ._. you should keep it to the entertainment content my dude, this is dogecoin levels of cringe.
Nah man this ain't it, i didn't need to read any further when it was stated that the channel will be valued at 10mil at some point. I wouldn't recommend investing, but to each their own I suppose.
$9.7m valuation and in 2021 the company had a net income of $132,938. 9,700,000 / 132,938 = 72.96 so to break even you need to be getting 73x the net income you are currently getting.
You are valuing each subscriber at $6.83 which in my opinion is very absurd. I wish you the best in your investments. But I'm out. I have no confidence that at the current the valuation there is any possibility for a meaningful return. As you, yourself, mentioned "if you invest $100 today, do not expect to receive more than a few cents for many years to come".
Please do some research before investing. I really think that a re-evaluation needs to be completed.
He also lists a $500K defaulted promissory note to his ex-partner that is seems like the money will be used to pay off. This doesn’t seem like an investment, but rather a lifeline. Combine that with the insane valuation and it’s no wonder even vulture capital firms would take a deal like this.
The corporation also has a DTI of 58%, which is insane. The second that Jak fails to raise $500,000, his ex-co-founder is going to sue him and this channel is going to be dead.
Disrupt plus gave me a netflix vibe that I unsubscribed just recently, just saying. Albeit, Chief have good intentions, I get it, to be one of pioneer of web3 metaverse. But the execution of this not that convincing, definitely sketchy TBH.
Wtf is this nonsense??? I’m a giant ass fan of everything you put out brother but this has got to be one of the most sketch things I’ve heard in a minute besides investing in TERRA/LUNA. Please just keep making content and putting out more of it instead of trying to hustle us which is the last thing we need in times like these. Take care of your people and get your shit together mate
Just make a GoFundMe or something my guy. Tell people you're in debt. I'd rather give you a couple bucks here and there based on the truth, rather than something sketchy
8M other comments said what they said so I'll just say...YIKES. I don't understand or care about financial investments and reading what I've read I won't participate in this smoke and mirrors scheme. It's a shame really, you could have asked for donations litteraly!! Anyways, I certainly won't stop viewership but I'll not see you and this channel in quite the same light any more... Good luck regardless
I don't even think LTT, a YouTube channel with at least a couple dozen employees who release a video a day making a steady cash flow even have an evaluation of 40 MILLION dollars like what you say your channel is worth. Something seems a bit off eh...
Not amazing at math but wouldn't that mean you value your company at 40 million dollars in total? that sounds like complete fucking out of this world insanity I'm sorry
It's very cute that you believe "investors" will be nice little mom and pop watchers of the channel. Big investors are parasites who will throw money hoping for a return. If you need funding ask for donations, or patrons. Don't turn to stock investors.
100% agree. He jumped from cute donations to plain scam. By the way, no sophisticated investor would ever put a single penny into this. The people are paying.
Just yikes man I would've taken a long look at my viewer metrics before posting something like this anyone 20+ year old adult can smell the doodoo hiding in your proposal from a mile away I like many other really enjoy the channel but it genuinely seems like you are trying to persuade a younger audience hoping they will play into your false narrative. Honesty is huge man huge just tell people you fucked up don't lie gonna have to unsub for the time being hope you the best
Okay, great art etc, it seems very shiny and memey. Yeah, we see lofi girl and matrix guy - very pog etc, but this just screams scammy behaviour my guy. It feels like you're dancing around the point. I'm not involved in crypto or VR, but gut feeling and life lessons from irl business is screaming that this, while perhaps a great idea, seems sus. I love this channel, but this is not the move I think you should go down.
Hey boss. I love your work. It is really good, but I must say this is not the way to get money off of it. Please reconsider before you destroy what you've built hwre
You put it exactly how I was thinking. I've always found it odd that he went that route instead of making a regular Patreon, it's as if he's making it more difficult for himself. On the roadmap it's said that they expect 5,000 Disrupt+ subscribers by 2027, so surely their subscriber numbers must be pretty low right now. I feel like if he had made a Patreon he would've had double the amount of subscribers he has on Disrupt+, if not more. They both do the same thing which is to have financial support alongside a platform to serve premium content, the thing is that one of them (Patreon) is viewed as the standard for this. People who would support on Patreon most likely already support or have supported artists on the platform in the past and wouldn't think twice about doing it for Disrupt. Making an entirely new platform is just adding unnecessary steps.
don’t do it. people out there see potential with these channel and one day you will regret selling this off. disrupt could make millions and millions … i would just stick with it.
So I love this channel but this was a bad move. I think this is a Hanlon’s razor situation, I don’t think you are scamming people I just think you tried a interesting new idea. However it’s not a good one, just a quick look at the comments shows that this has been a massive hit to disrupt’s reputation. I think it would have been a much better idea to promote a patreon. Many have already talked about the debt and the value and all that other stuff. I see the potential and the big ambitions that you have but I don’t think a channel of your size can make it happen. You should just do a patreon pay off the debt grow a bit and when you actually start making these things and become a public company and do this investment. Right now there is no reason to invest since you won’t get a return on it for years.
Bro why are you doing this, every good youtuber has to either sell their channel or go inactive. Honestly i'm disappointed in you and if this is some elaborate joke then i'm still usubscribing.
The fact that you did not disclose the fact that you have defaulted on your $500,000 buyout of Jordan's shares in this video feels a little disingenuous and very sketchy. I love your content, and want nothing but for Disrupt to grow and prosper, but this fact now made me lose a little trust in the company. Your financial disclosure document even states that all $500,000 is being used to pay off your debt to him, but you wouldn't have known that unless you dug all the way to the final page of the document. For that reason, I personally cannot instill my financial trust in Disrupt, and caution other prospective investors to really put some thought into investing. If you want my personal recommendation, I'd like for you to pin a comment disclosing your true intentions for seeking investors. I wish you the best of luck with funding.
Yeah this is, off man. Your content is great. But we don’t know who you actually are. Especially in a time where we are going to get crippled by a recession. Just know there’s a 95% chance you will never see any profit or benefit monetarily from investing in this.
You should do a video where you see if people on Fiverr can do your job and what price point. On the upside you might fin a cheaper way to make your videos. Maybe cut down on the effects 🤔 Would this story stand on it's own? Best channels on YouTube can usually be listened to.
RIP disrupt..its been nice watching you're content but it kind of leaves a bad taste..thought you'd have a bit more respect for you're viewers but I guess not..
You could maybe pull this off if you had 5 million+ subscribers. Probably wasn't wise to buy the other guy out for 500k since you only post a few times a month
This channel is always asking for more money. For what? No one wanted 3D graphics in videos. No one wants VR content. Your videos are paywalled half the time already , and when they aren't- they consist of 30% silent, drawn-out scene transitions. Sorry but I'm unsubbing.
The returns will be no more than a few cents, according to the owner of the company. Its only being done to repay a 500k debt that he defaulted on, ASAP, otherwise the debtor will take the channel back and Jak will be in a load of trouble. Wouldnt really matter, since the debtor is the co-founder. Content wouldnt change much.
So this is just a kickstarter version of a publicly traded company, but with none of the oversight, federal regulation, or consumer control? Yeah hard pass, this is a scam. Edit: holy shit and you are only doing this because you defaulted on a 500k debt and have to pay back your debtors, wow what a fucking trip.
love this channel, interesting content. 1.4 million is nothing to scoff at, but at the same time, it’s not, for example, pewdiepie numbers and revenue. hope it all works out, wishing you the best!
If 7000 shares is 0.07% then one share is 0.00001% of the company, and 23 shares is 100$ so 1 share is about 4.35 dollars and there are 10000000 shares - so the company is worth 43.5 million dollars?
@MA TrumpetWizard's analysis is correct. They are only giving 20% equity to preferred stockholders. This makes for a company valuation in the neighborhood of $40.000.000. For a YouTube channel, that is insane. Outrageous.
This feels like one of those crypto scams, very dink doink esque with these weird skits promoting some vague investment that inevitably turns out to be a scam.
Every single one of their debts and their profit margins are all public before and after investment, whether or not this video is presenting a sugar coated story you should always educate yourself before making a large investment
@Kameron Jones well I’m gonna give it a shot… I can make that money back in no time! I’m not scared, nor do I think money is scarce. I live a life of abundance, and I’m never in need of anything… I can make money with ease… I’d rather try and fail and try again until I get the result I want. So with that said, pls take care and have a great one bud! ✊
@Kameron Jones well I’m going to try it… money comes and goes… I can make that money back in less time than it takes you to find your little sorry excuse of manhood… lol you need to step out of your comfort zone and just try new things… money is all around us… you can make money with no problem! But you will fail 100% of the time you don’t try… 🤡
@CMGz FiveOneZero you will fail 100 percent of the time investing into obvious scams 🤡. I mean it seem like you are trying to make yourself feel better about your life if you can actually make money as easily as you are saying then why are you getting so defensive about investing into this scam ?
What a scammer. These YouTubers really are something else with how little they care about scamming their fans. I'm surprised it doesn't come with an NFT he can pump and dump too! time to unsubscribe from this goofy.
i like your channel but you are not slightly worth what you wish for. how about you reach 10 million subs first, and we all donate like 10 bucks? but buying shares from a few nerds sounds like a NFT scam and isnt backed by anything except big words and great visuals, we all know how this ends...
Not really a great idea to invest though, they say the corporation is worth 10,7mil which is absurd, the corporation is 500k in debt, not only that but he defaulted on one of the payments, which just means the door is open for lawsuits.
Dude I just know disrupt is one of the most awesome channels I've ever seen ever I don't have a hounded dollars but I will always follow disrupt to the very end, hope you guys can grow and develop as you wish, stay strong
Ask a friend/family member for money. Worst case scenario, you pay a great channel money for all the amazing content they've given us for free. Best case scenario????? Anything.
You really picked the wrong audience to try a ponzi scheme with. Alot of us know better, and it's because of some of the topics you've covered here on this channel.
Bro you owe $500,000 and thought this was a good idea? It’s not money to improve the channel, it’s debt money for you to pay to hold on to the channel! You just lost subscribers over this.
I believe disrupt has huge potential but that over value of the company is outrageous you can try to sell me shares when I’d need to throw 10s of thousands to see a even a little profit lower the value I’ll consider investment.
The problem is its the old early access idea. "Pay now so we can use that money for our product." However what really happens is getting the money before incentives less quality sense you already have the money.
Please look into this before you post that. He originally bought half the channel for a 500000 loan and defaulted imideatly. He's pretty much just looking to pay back his friend. Check the balance sheets and ROI
Balance sheet on their site says net income of $130,000 in 2021. Doesn’t seem worth it for any real return for investors it’s more of a crowdfunding thing
@Zia there's a reason why the video didn't show any actual numbers and you have to go "out of your way" to see the financials. I would be fine with simply crowdfunding the channel via patreon or a kickstarter or whatever similar mean where it's transparent that you're making a donation. This is just a scam
Very clever of you, but no. If you need money, ask for a donation, open a patreon or anything else, for that matter. This is also embarrassing, but at least not stupid and scam-like.
Honestly I would try my best to buy a share of this channel I only been subscribed since 2018 not to long but to have content this amazing for free the past 4 years I just have to show my appreciation
I highly suggest checking out their balance sheet. If you're like 9 years old and don't know how to read a balance sheet, you shouldn't even be commenting about an investment opportunity.
@fault Of course, you can do whatever you want! If you're considering investing in this corporation you might as well also throw a $100 bill into your fireplace. Might make you feel better losing that money right away rather than watching it diminish into nothing over the course of the next few months. Jak (the owner) is not going to be able to pay off the $466,000 debt which he has incurred due to restructuring of the equity distribution in the company last year. When the ex-co-founder sues Jak because he defaulted on the promissory note, this channel (and therefore, this corporation) is going to be dead.
@fault No one is stopping you, its just everyone is saying that this is a terrible idea and you would be remiss to blindly dumb money into a company on the verge of bankruptcy.
I knew it. Crappy clickbait and questionable sources made me think this was not gon last. I liked some vids but the clickbait and ads kinda turned me off. Good way to make profit I must say.
10 million dollar eval. For 200k yearly revenue in a very volatile space where nothing is guaranteed. Yeah check their financials before you even think about touching this. Love the channel but eval is wayyy off
Ben Jammin2022-07-23 23:10:56 (edited 2022-07-23 23:16:42 )
Misdirection and lies rub me the wrong way. Hopefully that's not what your doing. Is the thumbnail showing how you felt just before uploading this video?
Why wouldn’t you just take on sponsorships? I’ve seen smaller youtubers take on sponsorships, that I would assume pay pretty well and could cover a portion of the production for you.
You really just want to take our money to pay off a 500,000 dollar debt from buying the other half of the company from Jordan. That isnt being put towards building out the channel or anything like that, its exclusively being put towards paying off your 500k promissory note that you defaulted on. Thats pretty disgusting, at least be upfront about what you are doing. I shouldnt have to read a legal document to see why you are actually doing it. Guess the adblocker stays on, then. You just lost every shred of respect I had for you. Congrats! You did in a single video!
It's like a high-quality crypto land video, fuck. Nothing is sacred man, if you want some good shit just do it yourself or deal with the fact of always having to be wary of anything you consume from others, especially those you have no personal connections with. Idk, it looks bleak, but to a degree, I think these types of projects, go-fund me, all this crap will push people to build with people who they know more organically and trust more in their communities than some grifters and soapbox scammers on the internet.
The contents are good and all but the way you advertise and the lack of information seems so suspicious. Also the way you're selling it to us it like a pyramid schemer. Also according to the comment section... Yeah this could be just a scam no thanks
isn’t there already a term for “using other people’s money to pay off someone else’s investment, all while promising (or making it seem highly likely) that my investment will return more money”? i think it started with a P… not sure.
love the channel, but i would sooner do a patreon, or up my Disrupt+ subscription if you need money.
also plz be more upfront about the pre-revenue nature of the company, and the current debt owing. having it on the last page of your financials isn’t what i would call “good enough”.
again, love the channel. but bare-minimum disclosure isnt it. if you want to take it seriously, let’s cut the editing and production of the video, do a livestream where you walk us through the financials and show us the projections and the realistic nature. this gives us facts to make a smarter decision on. but at that point… im asking myself why traditional investors didnt bite? are you hoping that by crowdfunding you can avoid golden-handcuffs and proper accountability/due-diligence?
crowdfunded companies dont have a good feeling in my gut, and they rarely work. involving a community (in my opinion) is better done through a product people pay for. there’s a reason us “normal folks” aren’t investors… and it’s bc it’s an extremely complicated and highly-risky job.
instead of asking me to spend $100 on an investment, find a way to get me to spend $100 on a product. that’s real revenue you can feel good about (and likely scale easier), and you keep your %.
I love your channel and content so much, but I think you should delete this video. it just sounds like yet another NFT type scam (like Masterworks or Atlas)
I think you have set a terrible precedent. I’ve never seen a channel do this but now that this is out in the public this is going to open up more people to do this. With a channel your size you could have raised 500k very quickly if you did it a more traditional way. you had like 50% of a good pitch which is the talent but the other half is so bad it destroys everything else.
The financials don’t make sense even if you had one investor for the full 10% 50k would probably be a more fairish deal, but that’s pushing it. The “multiple revenue streams” is a big ol yikers. Yt sure that’s one, disrupt+ is a nothing burger and at best you’re just going to waste money on the maintenance of the site lol. You could do the same thing on Patreon without the headache of the site, no one needs another streaming service.
Legit if you just put out a new piece of merch with a new video that went along with the topic of the video, you’d make a killing, if you just release videos early on patreon you’d make a killing. There is no need for this but you will raise the 500k no matter what, unless you decide to stop it lol. Gl
This is one of the biggest own-goals i have seen, you are trying to scam your viewers into paying off a loan you took to buyout the other half of your channel, at 10x the valuation you yourself bought it at. Why not just pay off your debt slowly with the probably pretty sizeable revenue from your 1.4m sub channel? Why risk your most valuable asset - your relationship with your audience? Not to mention that this is almost certainly a ToS violation and maybe even ILLEGAL. What's really going on? You got a cocaine addiction you need to fund?
look you make good content but I don't think "Path A" is the right way to go..... as much as I enjoy these videos, I have to look at the creator before I can look at the content.
So that raise alot of question. How many shares will their be, how can you proof the shares, how will you proof the revenue, for what I can see it will all be one big " Trust me bro" investment?
Yeah, they don't seem to be handling this smartly at all, which makes their competence at putting people's investments to good use just as questionable.
So their debt is high assests cancel a little at most and yet they only make 120000 a year profit but their debt is still at least 400000 meaning it will take at least 3 years of work before making any meaningful profit , that means ur money is at risk for 3 years and will not start growing for a long time , this means since youtube cahannles are quite risky buisnesses as it relies on consistent quality and viewers , it is a horrifc investment that carries more risk than reward, or thats what i think at least , dont invest until uve lookes trough the balance sheets at least and probbably also talk to a advisor due to the inherrent risk
Right? Maybe accure $500,000 + 2.5% intrest in debt and maybe you can muster up the courage to advertise your unreal engine skills as an "investment" lmao.
Did this channels reputation just hit rockbottom? Im reading the comments and O.M.G people aren't happy at all. This is easily my favorite Chanel on Youtube but this video kinda tanked its reputation
Visionary investment. Very risky for any short term gains, but the future is moving towards vr (and AR as an extent to that). Entertainment will always be one of the most influential and profitable industries period; however, there is a significant chance that society rejects or diminishes these new forms of communication, as any generation does. That risk is pretty large in my opinion, but getting in to any new industry will pay dividends if it’s successful. That’s just my two cents though. Please don’t respond to my to my comment I just don’t want 3,000 notifications,(Unless you’re disrupt ;) ). All love <3
Your videos are over edited and honestly sometimes hard to enjoy because of that, most of the edits are also quite pretentious and superficial. In other words your edits are often special effects than actual edits, making most of them distracting and unnecessary. It's one of the reason why I subscribed but rarely watch your content. The premise is good, the execution is not. Maybe if you adjust your style a bit your channel would've been a whole lot successful.
I fully agree with you on this. I stuck around with this channel for it's unique and diversified content, but as time went on I found it became harder for me to enjoy it. To me, the over the top editing just made a lot of these videos nigh incoherent and hard to follow. It also didn't help that videos started to get split into 2 separate segments, with typically only 1 of them actually being relevant to the title of the video. I'm glad to see someone else says it, though.
@Ben Amos Public Companies have a legal obligation to make as much profit as possible for their shareholders. Especially with creative work this can destroy everything
@TheNinjas Fair enough. But it still goes into that direction of corporatization that i dont like. I mean its their company they can do what they want. But there are many failed channels on youtube that went the corporate route and didnt survive. There are of course others like LTT that successfully managed it but i just have a bad feeling about this
@RedBandanaCat You're correct. As an investor, I don't give a shit about the quality of the creative work. As an investor, your sole and primary concern should be the money on the balance sheet. After reading their financial statements, this company is going to be dead in the water in a few months if Jak doesn't find a way to repay the $466,000 that he defaulted on.
Not sure why YouTube recommended this to me (never heard of your channel before and am still unsure exactly what your content is even about) but this is some real greasy shit.
If your channel dies, someone else will do the same thing as you it may be better may not but at the end of the day this channel barely uploads so are you surprised your channel is barely making money?
Well tbf these videos take ages to make so it’s not a surprise he barley uploads, but the main issue is he’s isn’t good at making money clearly. If he was then he wouldn’t have this problem. He could easily monetise things but he’s obviously shit at it.
Hard pass, you're in debt and didn't mention it 'very unprofessional', anybody viewing should take that personally. Unsub. I've got way better investments. Plus your social blade estimated earnings are too low and you're asking for too much and giving too little for your made up valuation. You just want bailed out, tasteless.
"Disrupt has defaulted on a Promissory Note with a prior member of the
company and as of May 23rd, 2022 currently owes the Noteholder a Note
Balance of $466,179.87 on which interest is accruing at a rate of 2.5% per
annum. Disrupt will use approximately $500,000 of the Campaign proceeds to pay
off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder’s counsel, and to
pay Disrupt’s legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF."
Hidden at the bottom of the financial statements is kind of sketchy. maybe I just have bad financial literacy here but it sounds like the $500k goal isn't for "investing in the channel" and is more about offsetting the outstanding costs of these debts...
I highly recommend digging into the documentation if you're planning on using this as a serious investment however if you're just throwing money at the channel for fun then go right ahead these guys make some kickass stuff so by all means donate.
sounds to me like they are trying to fully take care of those debts to use the future income to take the company beyond where it's stuck due to the aforementioned debt. I don't care if i get no returns for a while, if it gets them on the road to the amazing things that can be done in the coming years.
The fact that they can put together all this content, with the quality never wavering, with this amount of debt, leads me to believe that in a debt free state they would soar.
@T. O'Neill yeah i see a few comments saying it's a scam bc of that but i don't think they'd risk jeopardizing their channel and reputation; rather, money was loaned and invested to boost the channel's resources and they're calling for investors to help carry the project ahead. nothing wrong with that imho.
I put a 100 buck in 'cause I'm curious. I've read the Coffee Zilla comment and I think he's right but I really want to see what happens next, when the 500k is "repaid"
Why didn’t you just ask for donations? Reading other comments it seems like your in debt. Your fan base loves your content so I’m sure people would like to help you out. No need to do all this glorified scam stuff, just be truthful and ask for help. :)
Is that 7,000 shares =0.7% accurate? Because if so that is highly concerning. I don’t see how you can make a profit on this as an investor. This seems like a way to entice people to donate by hiding behind the facade that you’ll own something. Dogecoin vibes
This is consumer/viewer blackmail, and one of the few reasons I've unsubscribed to channels in the past. Although in all of those instances, the channel creators became involved in NFTs or selling Crypto. That isn't what you're doing, here. And I do respect that.
But this is still almost as bad. Although I fully realize it is a legal business strategy, and that even larger channels on YouTube are beginning to feel the crunch of inflation, putting any of that on your viewers' shoulders is very, very wrong. I promise you that almost no one will do this.
I've said my piece. I know that only the most successful channels are actually making a real profit right now (as in 10M+ subscribers) but this has gone too far. You've lost a subscriber, for good.
i cant wait for all the videos to be private with his comments everywhere (botted with the check mark next to his name) and the name/pfp change with a video that says “Who is (name)?”
I had a thought; you have the abilities to render videos with entities, you would more than likely be able to create a game with groundbreaking graphics, amazing gameplay and high-quality cutscenes. You may have to find/employ a few other people and it way take a while, but the sheer scale of the graphical ability I've seen in your videos means that this could be a hit option. I think you could end up creating a bigger studio than the likes of Epic Games with enough effort, and with the software and abilities you and your team currently has it wouldn't take a long time to get there. I would like to see what you do with my thought, as it could help with funding. Thanks for reading this.
Bro I swear on my grandpa's grave that disrupt TVs camera effects are way too fucking real, you can't achieve this shit without actually being there with a camera
This does not help if you're actually trying to serve and build your community. I can find similar content without being financially pressured. Bad idea.
Shares for minimum of $100 USD? Really was excited to get in on this, but unfortunately that price is out of my budget. I hope you reach your goal and continue producing these amazing videos!
In general I agree that barriers like minimum $ amount aren't good but this case is different. Maybe it's a good thing that broke people can't afford to lose money on this investment, which is a sure thing. It will mean less pain when everyone realizes that it's a trap.
Sorry, but I comically laughed at your evaluation. I can't imagine your channel being worth a total evaluation of $250K, let alone $10.7M! What the hell guys, just go back to making good content and stop trying to make a quick buck lol it never ends well.
René Líma2022-07-23 20:29:21 (edited 2022-07-23 21:08:12 )
How do I know I will get some money or that I really own portion of Disrupt? This seems just as donation, not buying actual portion. Also it kinda feels like exit scam, just because their disrupt,id domain is for sale now and I can't find mentition of "Disrupt Inc." or even their Discord.
What a strange decision. You're selling this to us as a way to fund the studio but you're structuring it as if we should attempt to get a return on investment. Should we? Is this supposed to be generating profits for the investor, or is it meant to be an altruistic donation? Edit: the doe pun was funny tho
Okay, after reading the info on the page it seems like we, the subscribers, aren't the real target of this move. The target seems to be serious investors in the entertainment industry with the explicit intent to earn profit, and this video is essentially just a publicity stunt, for lack of a better term, to get on their radar.
Given that all the site in the description does is gauge interest I'm guessing they're trying to get as many of us as possible to say we would spend money, inflate the fuck out of the stock evaluation, and use that evaluation to make a proper pitch to some silicon valley types, hoping they'll dump enough money on them that this project stays afloat.
Power to them I guess, their videos are really good.
The campaign is a desperate attempt to pay off a $500,000 debt that the creator is in. The details are linked on the campaign page, in their financials document. None of the money is going towards growing the Disrupt brand.
Mr. Wonderful would throw up in his mouth as soon as he hears about the 6% juice, cool chanel but this is not a good look. The last thing you should do is invest in a company that's already trying to play clean up by basically asking for a $100 donation because I would not call that an profitable investment. JS!
Yeaaaah...No. I like your Videos, but not I am not "investing" at least 100$ for basically nothing. Basically you are fishing for Donations. Investing implies something of value and some return of investment.
Sorry man, I love the content but your valuation is way overinflated at 40x revenue and the equity buyout deal you signed with the previous partner overvalued the company at the time that deal was signed so you are raising money that can't be used to grow the company, only to pay out someone who is no longer providing value to the company. My advice is fold it and start fresh, crowdfund from blank slate at a valuation of $4mm or less, and as painful as that might be and as long as it might take to regrow your subscribership you will come out much better for it.
@KinNectar He can’t shutdown the channel. It’s YouTube man. It’s not a real company. Best option is he abandons it and he starts a new one but he can’t actually remove the channel.
@Fidelio what are you talking about? You can deactivate a YouTube Channel, or just delete all the content, though in this case that would be more petty than necessary. What he needs to shut down is the production company that pays the content creators, and owes money to his former partner.
If 5,000 people invested 100$ that would meet the goal. Lets say Disrupt makes $1,000,000 flat in a year, $100,000 would go to the 10% collectively owned by the viewers, if each person donated 100$ amongst 5,000 people, after a year you would get $20. I personally wouldn't do this but who knows maybe the channel takes off and makes absolute bank
@Dogald Trump after careful consideration and a year of research i can say with confidence that investing in a passive source of income is a scam, or at the very least incredibly sketchy/unethical.
@Ur Mom bro im glad that after ONE YEAR you have made the ultimate conclusion on "passive income" while thousands of people have become millionaires by patiently investing in forms of passive income lmao
@Crystllclr Just checking their social blade they make around £4k at their lowest. Buying 20% means you will make a return, and his subscribes only seems to increasing
holy shit they created 6 minutes of unreal engine filler for a 3-4min video just to pitch how they want to do some pseudocrowdfunding shares thing. goddamn disrupt is cool af but they got way too much visual aesthetic filler than the juice ong
Okay so for this to work with let’s say; $100 and your personal goal is getting a 10x ROI Disrupt would have to make either a big load of single videos with alteast 1 million views to earn 2-3k USD with it. If 1000 people were to invest $100 each into disrupt, the burden would be on disrupt to deliver a set amount of videos with each a million views. The adoption rate of the channel will further dilute the revenue stream into investors wallets concluding this I think I won’t invest in this channel even though I absolutely love the content and am a loyal subscriber.
Heard Colin & Samir talk about this concept and it always seemed really powerful. Hoping you guys hit your goals, this is by far one of my favorite channels on Youtube, would love to see it grow even more.
damn jus ask for a donation. you clearly are in debt. I used to really like this channel but if you lie to your fan base about this, how much of the other information is fabricated? unsubbing.
Actually he may already be onto this. He has a precedent for covering scams under $500k. Oh and just to be clear, if you check the financials this as an investment is a plain scam.
@Fidelio i think he shouldve taken a regular crowdfunding approach, ppl love his stuff and would def support him if he was being more genuine ab this all
Huh...the little deer cub (or is it a kid?) reminds me of me...before the war (not Ukraine). Anyway, how do you do the SEL Layers Guy voices in your videos?
maybe instead of misleading title. yes you are selling bu it should be selling 10% of the channel and basically not fully. Which is what cost might come to.
horrible investment, disappointed in Jak for not disclosing the whole deal, and the fact that he’s ONLY raising the money to pay off debt. Investors on the other hand, based on the site itself WILL NOT be making any money. I hate how this channel makes everything about business rather than the art of it.
Disrupt, dude... This has more scam written on it than the Nigerian prince who emailed us all in the early 2000s. Where is your growth plan, your roadmap to increase value to shareholders? "Digital media by small companies, good" is not a growth plan. I like your videos guys but what the hell are you doing? I can't respect or condone this, you are trying to con people out of their money to cover your debts here from what I can gather. You can retract all this but the damage is done to be honest.
your valuation is insane and the whole thing seems very scammy-if you need $$ set up a ko-fi or patreon like everyone else-like your content, but this makes the trust factor go down for me, just very weird decision
Edit: Well, I don't know about the terms of service but I think it may fall under "Spam, deceptive practices, & scams policies" in the Community Guidelines.
This feels scummy... especially if that bit about you owing someone 500k is true and you didnt disclose it. Not to mention Im pretty sure some laws are being broken here? How can you privately sell "stock" in your brand. That is kinda the definition of insider trading...
This is a terrible investment. There's absolutely zero disclosure on what profits would be like for these "shares", your monthly revenue is nowhere to be found on the financial documents, and your fundraising goal is clearly to pay off that buyout hidden deep in those very vague financial documents. Investors don't like it when you lie about what you really need the money for.
I'm very confused it shows 0 of $500,000 but some people already put reviews and where does it say on the website how much "shares" I get from $100 this seams like another YouTube scam and why don't you go public if you really are try to sell shares????
Sorry Jak, the content was pretty good but this is such a rocky foundation of trust that you expect us to stand on with you. So many fucking online scams these days. Unsubbed. Later, mate.
Not happy with this move. WHY? Because you leave all the 500k debt out and paint it with fluff. You use the compelling video talents to try to manipulate the viewers that don’t read the fine print and think it might be fun to add a little money. Also the valuation is completely and utterly untruthful. I don’t see this as sincere. It’s somewhat deceptive
Checked balance sheet... company defaulted on a note from a previous company holder owing 466k @ 2.5% interest now. While many startups hold debt, there is not anything tangible here. Now if I invest and I get a certain % and can own a video that's different. Tread carefully...
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To add your investing in not just this channel but depending on these guys to keep creating content.
oh god i was so scared you were selling it completely, i would have missed ya! hopefully this all turns out lovely for you guys! i can't offer any support as i don't even have a credit card yet but i wish y'all luck <3
@Aidan You’re right: it doesn’t add up. They inflated their worth and their numbers don’t match. Jax probably valued his company through the heart and not the numbers, which is understandable but not how things work. He produces amazing quality content, but the numbers side of things just haven’t reached the height of the quality content.
Along with all the negative press this is kind of like Ferrari trying to sell you their stock when buying a Ferrari, they just don’t do that. If you wanted to invest in Ferrari you’d go to where ever Ferrari sells their stock, not their dealership.
i don’t understand why everyone hating on it so much, in essence it’s a go fund me with some POSSIBILITY that you might make back some money. Go back to your -100% Robinhood account and think about how much a better investment you made.
Read into their finances, they're 500k in debt from buying 50% of the company from some other guy. They're using this funding just to pay debt, not to "grow the channel" like what was said in the video. It's just sad.
wanted to buy 1k of shares after reading the financials and watching this channel for some time now, but the website you're using seems to block me because 'You can't complete your investment until you fill out your payment information', tried to refill the form 3 times :/
466k of Jak's debt that will be paid off with your investment doesn't bother you? Your money, do whatever you want, but Jak doesn't present this investment honestly.
@00FF00 if you read the terms, anything at this stage is just reserving the right to invest. Ill have more time to think about the remaining debt and how thats payed out from his earnings from the company later. Assuming he doesnt directly use funding to pay the debt and instead keeps the company going to make those 30k payments
@kacperrools He hides it from video, which is the thing that made people pledge $135k already to him. He should have mentioned it as the real reason. Instead, he obscures that fact and you won't see it unless you scroll to financial raport to the bottom of it. Why? Because if he told the truth, he would maybe get $10k. He is dishonest here.
@Fidelio It would be somewhat fair if he sold half of the company to investors at valuation of 1M, where he would own half and the rest would own the other half.
This is very sketchy, financially stupid overall, and makes like no sense. I genuinely don't follow what your actual gameplay with this is. It just seems super sketchy, you can fund and do plenty using other means than strange business tactics. It's a shame too, because your channel has such high production and entertainment value and then you do this. I'm split because I love this channels content, but this decision is odd. If you need money, just ask for money directly. I understand if you have maybe debts to pay or something, and I'm sure if you just asked your community for assistance through donations while providing content you could achieve your financial goals without harming your integrity with such a risky investment. Hell even Patreon would be a more respectable means, since you could then offer incentives. It would be a product instead of an investment. 10% of a YouTube channel has 0 value in terms of investment, considering the unstable nature of independent media production under the umbrella of another corporation. Let alone the idea that owning a partial small share in a channel literally does nothing for the investor. It only takes YouTube messing up with it's stupid copyright system once to deplatform someone..
I recommend everyone dislike and report for spam/misleading because honestly this video is very misleading. He fails to mention may of the risks actually involved. Rest in peace this channel. I hope you keep the page archived after your company gets nuked off the Earth.
This seems really sketchy, You did keep changing the thumbnail of that one video and re-uploading it many times. Also the direction has gone away from virtuality drastically. It’s not really the same as it was anymore.
I think the new videos are way better than the virtual stuff, doesn't get enough views to justify a whole channel around it. Howwver, i agree with the sentiment that hes a bit click baitey and keeps chasing views.
@Fidelio They be riding it really hard and long if you catch my drift. I personally was a fan of the virtual reality videos. That being said they don’t get that many views and I got to be honest about that. Someone else said it in the comments but this feels like a “Logan Paul“ type of scenario scheme.
@Israel Davila I liked soem of them, but i do like the new docs also. I don't understand why he doesn't find simpler ways to make money like sponsors and patreon etc. He always has to be 'clever' in how he does things, that morally superior "we don't do that kind of stuff here" bs. instead of patreon this guy wnats to get us to join some metaverse bs.
The views are in my eyes not high enough to make a profitable investement off. It costs half a million dollars to buy 20% of the revenue your video's make.
Social blade assumes that you make 81k maximum each year. Lets say that socialblade is off by 700% (times 7), than you get 567k each year.
When we take 20% of that 567k in total that you get we get 113k each year. To get all of our money back from the investement (500k) we will have to wait 5 years. It only counts the income stays the same.
Also in Januari 2021, you can see in socialblade that the disrupt channel get 340k subscribers in ONE month. And normally they get around 60k subscribers. This is VERY suspicious!!!
That is a long time, and it is including that social blade is off by a factor of SEVEN. This might be a very bad investment!!
or buy neither and keep your money lol. This channel is dead as of today, it's never gonna be worth 10.7 mil. anyone who invests in this is a laughing stock
Why is your balance sheet so scummy looking. You don’t even talk about that you bought out one of your investors. Why? You just want idiots to invest that won’t do their due diligence like a proper investor can.
As shown in previous videos of dark web market exit scams happen short time frame and don't last long (snatch and grab) if they are closed down it's for other reasons. What I'm saying I'm sure that's not what they plan to do.
@Fidelio Dudes content has always been a pretentious tryhard version of Lemmino. Channel has oozed scumbag energy prior to this anyways, so it's not shocking.
@Skyclad Observer In some ways I agree, but he’s nothing like lemmino. It’s such a wack comment to read mate. Literally everyone copies lemmino so what’s your point? It’s just such an overused comment that’s says precisely nothing. I agree with you about the scumbag energy bit, I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees that.
dont do it! I'm assuming since you have to wait for ur pay day that you aren't rich. check the other comments. this is a scam to pay off his debt and you won't gain any $$ from it not even in the future
@The Bookey that why I said discuss terms I wouldn't ever give even a dollar to the terms he has now he sold half is channel for $500,000 now he is trying to sell us 10% for the same $500,000
The metaverse will become part of everyday life in the future. Those with the skills and knowledge that are familiar with the workings behind the scenes will have a huge advantage in the industry. Many companies will want to be part of the metaverse and will hire other smaller companies like Distrup.
This is alot of negative and very specific responces in a VERY small amount of time..
My immediate assumption is that this appears to be evidence that someone folded through intimidation and that source of intimidation had an orchestrated cadre of very informed johns deploy the instant the public was made aware of its proposal to survive..
I've seen alot of things and have been online since 01..
Unsubscribing… If you don’t have respect for your subscribers, how do you expect them to have respect for you. I haven’t enjoyed an upload from this channel in 8 months but this is flat out disrespectful and shows how you view us… as moneybags to sap however you can
Sounds like a win win to me I know People are having doubt on the Investment idea of his but think about it this way invest 100 have a chance to make more money as well as help this Channel with the already amazing quality this channel is, -Im a game Developer and it amazes me this guy uses Unreal Engine to create photo realistic content and scenes Voice lines amazing lighting etc just for his YouTube channel.
Any smart person should know that he is probably in the hole in terms of money for this channel because of the amount of money He spends on his developers to make this possible.
I think that he deserves more appreciation and I seriously doubt he's doing all this just to pay off debts though im sure that part of it
He is a a passionate creator who doesn't mind losing money just to create amazing Production Tripple A quality.
He deserves more subscribers
After Reading alot of the comments a lot of you mentioned that you lost respect for him because of this sketchy idea he came up with Im sure a lot of you would benefit greatly by critiquing him and evaluating him on what to improve
I hope that one day I can be as inspirational and as good of a game Developer and content creator as disrupt
Yes they should’ve mentioned how they need to pay back an ex-partner first, but mentioning that could look really bad on them. Even if they pay back this partner, the production will keep on growing and keep on getting better, not worse. If they are unable to pay back this partner, they could go into a legal battle bringing the quality down even more and we could lose DisruptTV completely. Honestly we have to see both sides.
I can understand why people are upset they didn’t mention this, but at the same time “investing” is more like a charitable donation, but at the same time you get a small voice in the channel and get something out of it. From this the production can keep on increasing as time continues.
❤Only for fans over 18 year⤵️ Alles sehr schön. Aber zuerst zusammen die Nummern 10 und 1. Eine Close-Up.Online Brünette und eine andere Blondine. Es wäre unfair, wenn ich 4 wählen würde,
@Fidelio sadly true, that might not even be the intent of this channel but they're setting an awful precedent, its basically getting people to be patreons BEFORE the video is made
this is super unique, I feel like even if you don't originally get many starting investors, the attention this will bring to your channel will help fund it.
Can you legally do a YouTube IPO ? Also, if this business model is actually working as well as you state in the end of the video, then you wouldn’t need the capital from us viewers to avoid the need to restructure. This doesn’t seem tk adding up
Man this sucks, I would have like to invest in your channel, however, WeFunder seems to block users in my province from investing. I still enjoy your content and wish you guys great success!
why arent you just taking your company to be publicly traded. what you're doing seems like the typical way people get scammed in pyramid / MLM schemes. there's a reason the stock market exists. it's regulated (although no where near perfect) and the way business is meant to be done. Not some "trust us with your money and we'll make sure to give you a share of the profits".
I like investing in different things. 100 is a smaller investment and with how much YouTubers can make, this seems more than worth it to me. Count me in!
Why not patreon for funding? Then become a publicly traded company? This seems like a nightmare with taxes for investors with multiple government problems without proper legal paperwork of said established company. YouTube alone will probably shut you down since this channel belongs to them not you legally.
The campaign is a desperate attempt to pay off a $500,000 debt that the creator is in - other funding options would not solve this quickly enough it seems. The details are linked on the campaign page, in their financials document. None of the money is going towards growing the Disrupt brand.
JUST INVESTED $200 OF MY HARD-EARNED MONEY, FOR ONE OF MY FAVORITE PROJECTS EVER ON THE INTERNET! CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE WITH OUR HELP! ;)
If I could afford to lose a hundo you'd have it but I'm eating stale hash browns I got for free from a restaurant whose owner likes me in the trailer I live in so to me that's a whole hell of a lot of money
They keep saying the whole video that them being unconventionally far away like it's a good thing just because it's not normal? Also there isn't going to be a "metaverse", and if there was why would there be a content gap? Aren't there like a billion vr companies now?
I just invested $100 but treating it more like a donation at this point for the quality content put out. I’ll think about $1k once I can see the proof of concept fully executed.
I believe in this vision and it’s a genius idea although the existing financial information I see makes me think its gonna not generate the intended ROI. I’d love for more channels to invest my time/$$$ into. Could easily be the new stocks game.
I don't know if I support this, it just looks, sounds and feels super sketchy, and this means you value your company at over 10M$, which just doesn't seem true at all.
If he is able to get 500k he will pay off debt that he took on by buying back half of equity in the company. If he gets more than that, he could spend more on better videos.
@ekzit Jak is intentionally misleading people so that they put money into his company. Technically all of the information is there, but it's not well visible.
also the language is fucking weird - its got "were gonna colonize the metaverse" energy. this is targeted to crypto-bros who are reeling in the market crash and want to feel like "innovators" by investing in something
I think it's a ballsy move to take this on as a small indie studio. But you guys are great at making things long banger! Easily the best visuals on youtube that I am aware of. I think you have a chance of pulling this off!
I don’t believe this is a scam like a lot of people are saying in the comments here, but I’m not sure I’d invest $100 towards this. $100 for one share seems like a lot, but I know absolutely nothing about stocks.
I’m a huge support or your production and brand but what do I get out of this investment, other then crowd funding a creator I support. At what point are you going to give an investor breakdown
I have been watching this for about half a year now, im sure that this channel will keep growing. Your content is easilly one of the most original content on this platform. Id love to see this grow further and further. Id invest into you myself if werent broke Your story telling and growth strategy is just simply amazing
I'm investing $50,000. How much equity would I get? And I need some statistics. How much does your channel make per year? Do you have a platform to send your channel into the mainstream besides YouTube? Will I make profit or even get my $50K back? Thank you, and please respond.
I have to hard agree. a part of me seemed interested but honestly it just seems like a fancy way of asking for donations. I doubt the return is going to be good at all.
I'll buy all the 10% if I am able to, before the deadline. I'm working on a few things that may bring in 4-5 figures in the coming weeks or months. Hard to say when. Count me in
At the moment, SEC laws do not permit me to specifically state where the money will be allocated. I can, however, share the following:
A) My plans for the company should the campaign be successful: feature films, shows, VR
B)The company's current financials, shown on the campaign page
C) What Disrupt's prior member is owed
Should the campaign be successful, I can continue stewarding the company on the same track that we have been laying down. Should the campaign fail, the company will be restructured, meaning I will no longer be a majority decision maker on Disrupt as a whole.
I am happy to answer questions on the WeFunder questions page. - Jak
Main guy working there took a $500k loan and now can't pay it back. This crowdfunding is there to pay his legal fees and pay back the loan that Jak defaulted on. Read financial statements. It's a trap.
The lack of a substantial business plan is extremely concerning for any serious investors. Your business plan encompasses a brief one to two pages: typically, the summary alone is one page.
@00FF00 Damn really? This channel is gonna be the subject of YouTube documentaries 5 years down the road. I would have more respect if he just did a gofundme instead to riding the get rich quick investor wave
Good luck with this new project :) The content has always been top quality, i hope you get good results from this and you can continue making your content same quality as before!
Disrupt grew on innovative content and unique video ideas, but in this case a good old-fashioned Patreon or even just opening donations, if explained the reason, would probably be better than this investment shtick
You've gotta realize this won't do any good for the channel and yourself, and probably will only bury you and the channel deeper with the unanimously bad reception.
@IIOII completely agreed. this is probably the only circumstance where i would endorse a patreon or similar subscriber-centric content delivery system. this is a horrible if not borderline illegal financial proposal
The point of disrupt+ was to be the Patreon, obviously that wasn't planning out. Either open up donations or restructure but don't use the language of an "investment"
Love how u changed the pin comment to taking down the link that allows for more transparency and than unpinned so we can't easily find ur edit ....this is a big L
You'll regret this later when youre at 10 million subs and dont get to keep all of it. I suggest you get an extra job and ride the storm out. instead of doing all the hard work for someone else
This idea was something I’ve been floating with big YouTubers and gaming companies for a few years now. I really like this idea that even as a consumer your time is not being wasted. By investing in an entity such as “Disrupt” you get to watch your favorite content while also making yourself more money for each view. Everyone makes money, everyone is happy.
unsubbed. started getting weird when u guys kept changing title and thumbnail on that one video. couldn't even tell u what it was cuz it was changed so much.
@Fidelio well personally i haven't been as involved in the videos as usual. that along with trying to use this instead of patreon just doesnt feel right
@Jack Marston Yeah i agree with you partially, he's quite annoying and chases clickbait and seems like someone who pretends he's forthcoming, but i think his documentaries are still amazing. Apparently he bought out the other founder for 500k and he needs the money to pay him but doesn't want to just tell us that and crowdfund. Why has he got to make it some sort of prertentious shit that it isn't? You can buy a piece of the channel, ie i need money to pay the other owner to keep the channel alive.
So basically a partially community owned channel, very interesting idea. This channel makes great content and I hope this allows more to happen, good day to you all.
Would be an alright idea if you could put in a relatively small amount of money in small content creators that have talent and a bright future ahead of them who need equipment upgrades. Not in already 1 million subs channels.
Except it isn't, you don't own anything. You're only entitled to a portion of the net income (and who knows what income that the manager decides to disclose).
*Turns on camera with extremely low quality* "Hi uh we're selling 10% of our channel" *Proceeds to show the most high quality insane renders you've ever seen on youtube*
@Radon Racing I can. I already know the financial report isn't looking good. But I would like to support him regardless. Maybe after he pays the $500K debt off we will see more of what he mentions in the video. What are your thoughts on this?
@Austin Spraggins 5+ yrs is a very long time. My real point is that you can't even consider any future return - if one isn't willing to send even the minimum instantly AND be content if the channel disappeared tomorrow it's not for you. Very fair so many mentions of a scam because it really is plea for charity with the appearance of some actual reciprocal value to the donor. Best of luck though whatever you do 🙂
Edit: nft is just art, which only has value because people say it has value. Media content (youtube, netflix, you name it) has a fanbase. Those people make that platform a community. That's why a single youtuber that makes videos for a living can live off of youtube alone. I'm not sure how you can be so ignorant to compare art to something that not only has actual monetary value, but also has a community behind it as well.
@Jay If you think NFT’s are “just art” then you might be too young to even consider having an opinion on investing. NFT’s partially were, and still are, mostly money laundering schemes.
@MandoMacho How many shares will there be, how will they proof the shares, and how will they proof the revenue? From what I can see it's just a "trust me bro" investment project. Very dubious.
I think they might be doing this genuinely, like even if it's a bad idea they aren't actually intending to scam people (even if that is indeed what they're doing). Lack of foresight is sometimes just as dangerous as malice.
bro this animation and graphics are soo trash like it looks like you comissionned those unreal engine scenes through fiver jesus, it looks like one of my game projects after 2 days
@SysKey It's a bit of a scam but not a pyramid scheme, investors aren't gonna be recruiting others into giving their money. There isn't gonna be a multi leveled structure of ownership or anything.
for a second, i completely freaked out and lost all respect for you. but then i realized what you mean. honestly this is way better than actually selling the entire channel to some sort of commenting scam operation.
@Žïřçøņ what's funny about that clip is that it literally makes potential "investors" look like animals. That deer frankly has no clue about what he's getting into. This is one of the dumbest targeted mass scams in the history of youtube
If you didnt plan on investing then why spend time telling others not to and that the evaluation is too high? Major motion pictures spend 10x that on a single film... This video might only be valuable information to 5% of viewers. Why not just root for a future with Disrupt. Its crowdfunding.
@Harrison B It says on the website that you should expect a return of cents for years to come and from the looks of it the company is about $460k in debt right now with a 2.5% interest. With $50 you’d be lucky to make a penny for many years to come.
Sadly, I do not have $100 usd at the moment. I would 100% buy shares to invest in the future of this company because I enjoy the content put out and the amount of work that goes into it. I think by the time I have money to spare, the time to invest will be lost.
Edgy editing and upbeat background music does not deserve viewer investment XD tryna cash in, are ya? make investors feel like "angels"? this is so predatory
Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
Wow I got scard that he/the team was selling the channel for a specific amount of money like 20k or something idk but thank god they are making some new project/successful business plans!
The idea of a white tail deer trying to remember the word for "angel investor," a term I have literally never heard before, is very amusing to me. I'm glad to hear that cervids know more about finances than I do.
Send money, recent deer. Sound like profit to me. I'll invest in buying deers which means I'll invest in the Disrupt channel by proxy right ? How many shares per deer will I gain ?
Are there even high % increase in investor stakes say .02% for $100, .05% for $1,000, .1% for 5,000 and so on or is there just a difference between the $100 investors and higher stake investors?
Serious question though, is this legal? There are market regulations in place to prevent this sort of thing. Are you registered with the SEC for private market sharing? Companies owning YouTube channels and people having stock in those companies is not an uncommon thing, but it needs to be on the up and up. I know your team is just trying to find a way to make some money, but I hope you did your research. I would 100% invest in and support this channel if there was a proper paper trail.
Why can't they just get a patreon? Don't they do sponsors also? Why does this guy have to be pretentious and clever, if it ain't broke dont fix it, and do what everyone else is doing, because it works. No need to reinvent the wheel.
Disrupt is my favorite YouTube channel right now. I can’t wait to see what this will allow for in the future! Thank you guys for such continued amazing content!
❤Only for fans over 18 year⤵️ Alles sehr schön. Aber zuerst zusammen die Nummern 10 und 1. Eine Close-Up.Online Brünette und eine andere Blondine. Es wäre unfair, wenn ich 4 wählen würde.
Don't FOMO on an "investment" on a defaulted company with no return (read the financials), there are other companies that pay good money in dividends every quarter.
@Lolsbarry224 This is presented as an investment, so to make money. He used deception to trick the credulous fans in need of money to just pay his own liabilities. This is bad at every level, really there are companies out there paying 3% in dividends every year (not including asset appreciation which makes even more money) and you could buy their stock today.. At best I doubt anyone would even make 1/100 of their money back ever.
I really want to invest but I'm just another kid on YouTube. I'll stick to watching all your videos but I can't wait to see how your business will grow. I really believe you guys can get big.
Here’s some life advice. please do not listen or give money to YouTubers or anyone else for the love of your parents money and your own money. No one is your friend, no one cares about you, everyone wants you to lose so they can win, if you want to throw your money away so badly, then give it to a nice charity like càncer research or your local animal Shelter. I know you won’t read this or care, but don’t waste your time and money on things that don’t matter.
Lmao if i had a ton of mony I'd get the whole thing but i mean i dont even know my credit card number or password Also wtf this is high uhm High Budget yeah-
This will be the worst investment in your life (read the financials they are in grave debt and use 100% of the funding to have it paid back), put money on a publicly traded company that pays good money in dividends from today instead.
@VBplays An investor only makes money. It's not about helping out some overpowerful corporation, it's about understanding the intrinsic value of a company on the market to profit off it. The obtained leverage goes into expanding, reaching new markets.. It's like growing a tree, it really is a great activity.
If you are not doing that, you are simply burning your money. Here to save a company that made undesirable choices and now shamelessly uses deception on their core audience to avoid bankruptcy. Believe it or not, most big corps are more honest than that.
@VBplays Because you are getting scammed and apparently you are all in for it. But as always, easier to fool someone that convince them they've been fooled.
Plan B is not gonna happen lmao. Y’all have already raised like 30k and rising since this went up. Prob gonna put some money in in the next few minutes. Good shit.
Ay man just stop making worlds deadliest virus videos and we good. It was cool when it was one video but yea love that yall can use your incredible production with newer ideas
@MA I read their earnings and they seem off. clearly these numbers are meant to be a multiple of something but, what is it? 10, 100, 1000? Like no way they spent $2.60 on taxes
Didn't know such thing was possible; owning a portion of a Youtube channel (Disrupt) while not actively being employed yet profiting from it is astonishing.
Sure I'll throw a hundred into the ring. Hope this bet pays off for you. Don't care too much about the potential returns but I want you guys to keep producing the same high-quality quality content.
@Dillon Mathews I agree it’s a bad idea, but crowd funding would have been fine if he just admitted he’s in debt. I wouldn’t fucking pay him, but at least he’s being honest right? Bur this way is just ludicrous.
Dumb Quebec doesnt let you invest so i cant because of wmy dumb province that i cant wait to move out of will not allow me to spend my OWN money on this.
I have a whole list of reasons why i want to move out and why i honestly hate Quebec. Visiting a nearby province showed me alot of things that are different and wrong about quebec.
@mxw2l He's misrepresenting the situation, the money is used to pay off his debt, he leaves this out of the subtext of the video and his viewers and potential donors remain uneducated on it, it is deceitful and a scam
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Great you might have good intentions but the nft and crypto market has proved that 95% of other people dont. Problem is people thought youtube could be a job with reliable income. Here come the scam channels. Im gonna stick to buying silver and physical things of actual value.
Wait , so we drop 100 dollars for 23 shares and at the end we of year we receive a net profit it but you said your gonna use that capital to further the disturb the channel ? So that means we don’t get anything except just saying we own a portion of distrupt when we really don’t ? Or am I not getting it . Again, I’m not trying to bash it or anything I just genuinely don’t get it so hopefully someone can clarify for it me in the comments or you yourself can contact me somehow about it . I appreciate it A lot , thank you .
The campaign is a desperate attempt to pay off a $500,000 debt that the creator is in. The details are linked on the campaign page, in their financials document. None of the money is going towards growing the Disrupt brand.
this sounds like such a good idea I think yall are ahead of the curve with this one, such an awesome channel with an awesome team of people. I can only imagine how much this channel will have grown in the next few years
God. What I would do to not just be an investor but also be part of the team. This is such a big turning point for Disrupt. I know it will pay off down the line.
bro disrupt is the future of entertainment if you dont invest youre missing out and i will try to invest as much as i can lol but essentially this will be like the new youtube and netfllix but higher quality content and in the metaverse and with the huge advantage they will have they will gain a lot of experience wich will lead to disrupt innovating faster than every other company because they had a headstart and will learn quicker gapping every other company and essentially becoming the best content platform ever. so yeah guys go invest
Ill invest. I also have a story ive worked years on, is there someway I can pitch it and have it animated if you guys like it? Itd be best computer animated. It could be a series, spin offs are easy when it gets popular.
Needless to say, its epic and I highly suggest somebody make some money off this before I die and its gone. I just want it out there... It can change lives.
I bet you already have 10k from people wanting to be a part. If I had the money, I would. And I very well may in a few days if still possible. If not, still very interested to see where this channel goes.
think about tokenizing this idea… this idea in the form of a token and recorded on a blockchain would be the best and most of all transparent way of dispersing the securities…
For this I would totally be down for…
Pls let me know if this is an avenue you’re willing to explore…
Just remember that now you’re selling securities… the SEC will come after you… so pls do your homework…
So I don't think calling this a scam is fair at all. This plan is just combining the traditional investor model with crowdsourcing which is both forward thinking and a bit shaky - as some of the more thoughtful criticisms have pointed out. I think it's important to highlight that by in large Disurpt does make content with incredibly high production value, especially for Youtube (part of the reason I subscribed was to just find out how y'all were pulling this off lol!). Framing this ask as a different avenue for crowdsourcing with the possibility of profit down the line might have sat with some of the viewers a bit better.
They are $500,000 in debt and the “investments” made from this initial stage are going to pay off that debt. It says that much in the financials.
Plus, from what I can tell, the $10,000,000 valuation is pulled out of thin air, because none of their numbers even come close to reaching 1,000,000 (only their debt reaches half of that).
And, given their business plan is measured in 5 years, I’m assuming they’ll be able to reach at least half of their $10,000,000 mark in that time? I don’t know, but to go from $60,000 gross profits in 2020 to $10,000,000 in less than 10 years is crazy and hardly ever accomplished. Not impossible, but just SUPER highly unlikely—even given the high quality of the channel.
like literally please tell me how i got to this 8 seconds after it released like the earliest ive got to a video is probably like around an hour after it releases
if we reach the 500,000 goal if someone buys 27 shares for $100 the channel would need to make $5million just to break even in a year... and you get 500k views on average and post every couple months... 500k views will most likely give something around $500... you gotta be kidding with this...
I don't have the money to buy to buy shares, but I'm still commenting a lot in order to boost viewer engagement so the algorithm show this to more people.
If this were anyone else, I'd be EXTREMELY suspicious. However, the fact you've been making such creative content, at such a high level for so long, (along with your explanation of what Disrupt's future could look like) at least tells me you aren't scammers. I don't know if it'd actually be a good investment, but I know you guys will give it your all. Best of luck, I'll be along for the ride.
You have to come back and read why this is a scam in the comments. Too bad... the idea isn't bad at all, I mean, for smaller channels that need equipment and other stuff to improve, it might be worth it to donate via Patreon.
In this comments section : People don't understand how corporate investment works, that corporations sell stocks/shares as fundraising to pay off debts, and that this is the norm for corporate business, and they just aren't used to seeing that because it's a youtube channel, and don't see it as a business, and they're also all cynics about people raising money because this is a channel that regularly talks about scam artists and how they got away with it for so long, so they default to seeing the worst in everything.
To those who are funding, please look at it as a donation. To those who aren’t funding, if you still want to support Disrupt another way there’s always the merchandise and Disrupt+.
I'm not sure about this one. Basically everyone here has agreed it's a terrible investment. If you really need money, you could probably just ask for it. with almost one and a half million viewers, you could probably get quite a bit of money if you choke down your pride.
I’m a fan of disrupt, however this is a terrible investment and he’s misleading viewers by not disclosing the fact that he’s using the majority of this money to pay off bad debt, NOT to improve “production” or make “films”
5053 likesThe only way you’d find that is buried in the last page of the financial disclosure document where you can discover that Jak has defaulted on a $500K buyout from his partner, In exchange for 50% of the channel. However he was unable to pay this full amount. So now he’s trying to raise $500,000 in exchange for !!!10% of the channel!!?
This is completely absurd, and that’s not even mentioning the insane valuation of $10 million which is 100X their net profit which as a YouTube channel owner of similar size I can tell you is NOT fair value.
I’ve personally reached out to disrupt in hopes of clearing this up and finding out if there’s more to the story, but for now Id just like to warn people to get all the facts before they “invest”.
As I said at the start of this, I’m a fan of their channel and hope that they can find some less shady way of raising money, and I wish them all the success, but misleading fans is NOT the way forward.
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Facts!
84 likesThis should be pinned.
140 likessheesh even coffeezilla doesn’t like the stock
133 likes@Fidelio you think that Disrupt would pin this? lol but you’re right it should
213 likesAsking for a $100 “investment” is extremely sketchy for a YouTube channel. This isn’t a thing. They already have a paid bonus content section. Couldn’t a simple GoFundMe get the job done if he needs cash?
92 likesYou better make a video about this, Coffee.
67 likesnot the way i wanted to find out you watch disrupt but thx for the info
41 likes10 years later, and coffee's unborn son is on YouTube busting his father for the same thing.
20 likesgood shvt man.
Coffezilla I love you so much
6 likeshaha he not gonna pin this....prob get deleted!!💯😂😂
15 likesCoffee video coming soon lol... "This youtuber is trying to scam you
12 likesI read on the wefunder page that to sell the share you have to contact the owner and they would do a buy back but they cannot guarantee one
21 likesseems sketch and not really "investing" lmao
I really love this channels videos but this ain't it
also 10 million valuation wtf?!? Seems crazy like the Faze IPO
Ah shit it’s over rip disrupt
25 likesSo? The partner? Who is he to have such a strong take on the channle and what legal document that says his partner owns "50%". Maybe it's all fake, this is why we went 100% honesty and yet here we are being lied around too. Sucks, but transparency is everything but this is the outcome
5 likesI'm speechless, thanks for the info dude!
8 likesCoffee just doesn't sleep
9 likesFirst two minutes into the video I’m thinking, “I wonder what Coffee thinks about this?”. Thank you coffee. You’re the detective we need. Pump the stock
17 likesCan’t wait for the new vid on this coffee!
7 likesThanks for pointing this out. I love disrupt! I read the last page of the financial document and there it is written plainly. I would have been down to just pitch in money for a gofundme.
17 likesCoffeezilla OG in da house!👌🏼
3 likesCan't he just start a new channel?
3 likesYou gonna turn this into a vid or nah?
3 likes@veespa I know it was a joke man. Barley sociable will have a field day with this because I think he quite likes disrupt.
2 likes@Faxn
3 likesIf he has shared rights to disrupt he'd have to fork off and create a new name.
Overall though that may be a better idea but it still doesn't resolve his debt😏
I was awaiting your comment!
1 likeI emediatly got fishy vibes from this. im glad to know i wasnt just being overly skeptical
5 likesI've seen enough Silicon Valley to know where this leads...
3 likesI'm inclined to believe coffeezilla. I am not well-versed in these types of financial things, but what I am well-versed in is human behavior and how it can relate to a scam or fraudulent act. As soon as Jak began talking, his facial expressions mimic someone who is making an art of the sob story. "Invest" in this or this other not cool thing will happen. While I do like the Disrupt youtube channel, I don't have a strong enough connection to be comfortable "investing". To think this channel is doing something new and innovative is preposterous!
8 likesBAD DEBT ? BROKEN LEGS OR PAPERERS
1 likeMake a video about it 👍🏽
2 likes@Fidelio you really think he’s pin the comment outing him on his fan money grab for personal gain when he said it was for other things
3 likesThanks coffeezilla. Supporting channels is great, framing that as an investment opportunity, especially considering these particulars, ain't it.
7 likes@Rust rug skin Bruv, it’s a joke. How dense are you?
0 likesOof
0 likesWhat sucks is that if he just needed money he could have just asked for it. He could have made a video and explained the situation and I can almost guarentee people would have been more than happy to help and donate to him, but the fact he went this way and made is super shady makes me never want to trust him.
14 likesCoffeezilla just randomly appeared on a disrupt comment section
3 likesDon't spoil the next Coffeezilla video for us.
2 likesI love you Coffezilla, thank you for your tireless work
2 likesnow, now I"m sure all the paperwork is in place with the SEC for reg D shares....oh, wait.
3 likesSucks seeing otherwise great people move into scam territory. It would have been better to fund raise without all the scammy investment stuff - people would have still supported it while keeping honest.
I hope I don't end up seeing a video about this on your channel :(
1 likemoon wen?
1 likeThanks. Was about to drop some money in.
1 likeUntil I read the username, I was going to press X.
1 likeDon't know why I read that last.
Thank you for the info. It is disgusting this isn't mentioned in the video. Of course, everyone should read all of the documents before investing, but many have invested in crypto & meme stocks with no knowledge. The whole video has a ton of work put into it but no mention of a HUGE default which shows there is money mismanagement in the exact company he is trying to pitch to his viewers right now.
3 likesWell well well you know there's some spice coming out now
2 likesMake a vid mr. Coffee
2 likesWas gonna say it myself, but who better to say it than Coffeezilla himself.
2 likesI wonder what Coffeezilla would think abou.. ah there he is.
3 likesOh hey I just mentioned you should check this out lol that was fast me boi
2 likesBless zilla
3 likesWell, if coffee says it’s sus then it’s fucking sus and everyone would be wise to heed his warning.
3 likesThat is why I follow you
1 likeGoddamn when coffeezilla’s going you, you know you’ve become sketchy
3 likesCoffee doesn't miss anything 😂
1 likecan you expand on the debt? what exactly happened?
1 likeHell yeah coffeezilla! I mean the fact that you're here saying this really speaks volumes about Disrupt 's plan...
1 likeNever heard of you before, looked into your channel after reading your comment and liked what I saw. Subbed.
2 likesYou produce the exact type of content I like to sit down and watch while I eat a quick meal, and you are 1000% right about this apparent scam.
I am hugely disappointed in Disrupt for this, $500k for 10% Christ, that's insane. A $10m valuation is just absolutely ridiculous, and I absolutely LOVE their content and have watched almost every video they've put out, but this is just asinine. I get it that we all make mistakes, but this honestly just seems like a breach of trust between producer and consumer. It feels like he's taking massive advantage of his viewers and their lack of experience and knowledge with this type of stuff. I am genuinely considering unsubscribing after seeing this video.
And the Meta-verse is something I am closely following and watching the tech to, I do agree with the things said in the end about it being the next move in entertainment, and it is (IMO) quickly becoming that.
But there is absolutely no where NEAR enough info to suggest that Disrupt is remotely worth $10m.
Thank you for actually exposing this BS to everyone, Mr. Checkmark.
0 likesa ~1.5m subscriber shouldn't need to ask for 10% of the channel when you already have disrupt+ you have to consider the ad revenue, you have to consider patreon, and sponsorships and so much more sources of income. I'd understand if it was for a good cause like with team trees, but this is just "for the future of the channel." you're not struggling by any means necessary. I get that you have to pay all of your employees but this just comes off as entitled. You should be set financially bro. I literally skipped through half of this video because I knew it was all nonsense
1 like@Zanalytics Inc patreon would have been a better option, he could easily make 10k+ off of patreon and that would take care of his quartly payments and he could make more payments, easily would have the debt cleared 2 years early. instead he's getting people to buy into his business in which the dividends are tied to yearly profits, so he can just reinvest all profit and pay out nothing to "investors"
1 likeYou know, I was kind of thinking about kicking him $100.00 because I enjoy the content, if that paid dividends then great if not then I'm not stressing.
1 likeBut after reading all of these comments, and realizing that even CoffeeZilla is foaming at the mouth to run an expose on this, I'm gonna keep my $100 in my pocket
Yeah coffeezilla let's goooo!!! Whooo
0 likescoffeezilla is always there for this stuff. love your work man!
1 like@Coffeezilla How exactly is this investment opportunity misleading when even you yourself recognize that the financial disclosure literally DOES in fact disclose the entire former partner buyout plan? It's also not buried. It's a very simple document with pretty plain language, not a hundred+ page form full of jargon. The valuation is also discussed on the page. I can understand being cautious, but you're throwing mud at things that have already been discussed on the investment site. It's great that you reached out to Disrupt, but perhaps it would be better to first discuss with them and then come to the public square.
0 likesAlso, this plan is literally the textbook definition of an investment. One is not guaranteed a return, but giving money with the intent that the company will continue to grow. Therefore, one is investing in the content creation. Again, I understand you support the channel, and your channel itself is a wealth of knowledge - it just comes across as shooting from the hip on this one.
This is why I’m a huge fan of you.
0 likesI think they didnt consult a business analyst, they just come up with this idea with his team Imo.
0 likesDamn, I had no idea about all of this. Thanks for bringing it to light. As a 15 year old, Im not an investor who could potentially lose money off of this misleading information, but there are others who certainly could. Thanks again!
1 likeOof
0 likesThanks for being awesome and digging through all this so we don’t have to coffee, much love ❤️
0 likesDayum, if coffezilla is on your case you know its not good.
0 likesCan't wait too see the video you make on this
0 likes@mYstak3n But he hasn't dug through all of this. He's only read the disclosure and what has been posted on the site for everyone else to read. He said he's reached out to Disrupt, but didn't wait to post a pretty uninformed opinion prior to getting a response.
0 likesanyone who understands valuation knows how fucked this is
1 likeits not a life paying off debt does help the channel and improve quality
0 likesPost proof he has bas debt
0 likes@ToughGamerDude jup, they're done
0 likes@Fidelio why would he pin in, its obvious disrupt is hiding the fact he defaulted and owes 500k why would he call himself out lol
2 likes@Matt Huey Well, then we should copy and paste it so he can't delete it
0 likesOh hi Coffee... This is bad...
0 likes@veespa we should be able to pin an important message ourselves that might save fools from chucking money in.
0 likesAnother strange thing is that if he paid 500k for 50% of the channel that gives it a valuation on 1million USD.
0 likesOh shit this means a new vid is coming out!!
0 likesJokes aside I really like Disrupt but everyone is allowed to be called out. Good work on informing the public
@Ashley R That’s not a bad idea… a democratized comment system. Almost in the same vein that Disrupt is pitching this “communal investment” (although that’s not what it truly is), which adds a nice level of irony on top. I like it.
1 likeI'm a big FAN but this is SAD
0 likesThanks g, Was about to chuck a few bones away x
1 likeI came here to say the same. Pay VERY close attention to the sheet before you invest.
0 likesEVERYONE READ THIS COMMENT
0 likes@Lyre It’s a joke bro
0 likesLet's do the math - on their website, we see an example - if someone buys 25 000 shares, this will cost him $108 695.65, and the Prognozed, Not Guaranteed Yearly revenue of return will be $2 000...
0 likesThanks coffee, too bad its not more reasonable since this content is not bound to one trend and will always be popular
0 likesThanks Coffee, I am also a fan of disrupt and ofcourse of your channel. This does sound quite Shady :(
0 likesGood info as always! Thanks for bringing this to light, I just canceled my pledge to Disrupt
0 likesArriving at the correct answer through all the wrong steps here.
0 likesIf jak is 500K in debt from a default, that means a failure to pay that debt could very well mean the shutdown of the channel, and we, as the audience, do not want that. He does make good content.
Next, your math is very wrong. 500K for half the channel, means it has a valuation of 1mil, not 10 mil. you added a zero.
next, a company's net worth, is not their annual net profit. If that was the case, Disney is only worth what they put out this year, and it means if they go a year without releasing new content it would mean they have a net worth of $0. That is not how anything works. The annual net income of a business, is only a slim percentage of that businesses total value, and the actual profits, are called margins, which is the difference between net income and cost/debt.
As for a partial ownership of the channel, That's how stocks work. that's literally how every major corporation works. That's what corporate stocks ARE. percentage ownership of the company, which grants a proportional percentage of the net profit margin based on the number of shares, those are called stock dividends. you make that sound like it's a scam, when it just means that jack is just the majority shareholder, and with good reason. First of all, by owning 90% of all shares of the business, he has a controlling influence in the direction of the company. If he proportionally sold 50% of the ownership of the company, that means he would be beholden to us, the stockholders, to dictate the direction for the business, and when stockholders influence the direction of the company, the outcome is always "get me more money, I want bigger dividends", which means the content will change in favor of profit, rather than good content. by limiting the ownership to 10%, he prevents this outcome.
And that gets back to your original 10 million figure, using 500,000 for 10% ownership, but that is still only 5mil, not 10 mil. you're saying the 500K debt is 50% of the company, which gets 10% of the business, which means 10% of the original valuation of 1 mill, to get 10 mil. That's bad math. If anything it means the current valuation of the "company" is -500K, and getting in 500K of investment gets to net zero, at which point all income after operating expenses is pure profit. and with 1-2 million subscribers, and add revenue being essentially per 1K views, with an average of 0.7 million views per video, means 70K per video, 12-24 videos a year is 140K to 280K per year, reduce by 1/10 (10% ownership) 10-20 years for a full return of investment, followed by pure profit, In addition to the continued reception of content. assuming the pace and popularity of the videos remains exactly content (zero growth), That's a better investment for us, the investors, than most things on NASDAQ, before even considering the potential for continued growth. your assumptions about where the money will go, assumes the worst.
the bad investment side of this, is that, it's a guy in 500K of debt, and we don't know the full circumstances of that debt. Is this because jak is bad with money, or did jak's former partner with the channel completely screw him over, effectively scamming him. we won't likely ever have the entire picture. if the other guy was shady, then we have nothing to worry about, and if jak is a F-up, then we have something to worry about. but given the quality of content, I don't think jak is personally the problem. The worst case would be that he could take the money and run, but his youtube career is basically "hey, look at all these scam artists and criminals, look how terrible they are, pretty F-ed up, right?", and for him to mess this up would be adding "and i'm one of them. I am what I criticize". And that's a really terrible thing to assume.
As for arriving at the correct conclusion through the wrong steps.... you are right that this is a bad idea, not for us, but for him. The better sollution would be to use a patreon type set up, plus advertisers, like most youtubers, many of whom are F-ing MILLIONAIRES because of it. That would pay off the debt, allow the channel to continue to make content and grow, but would not make them beholden to paying shareholders who demand larger dividends to prevent them from re-selling the stock and thus devaluing the company to secure investment funding by selling stocks due to the new, lower valuation. the entire concept of corporate stocks, shares in a company, Is a terrible idea and it slowly kills every business that goes public, it's short-term growth for long term loss, and a degradation of quality, in 100% of cases. I'm in favor of capitalism, but the stock market is capitalism gone wrong.
Damn!! 🔥
0 likesPlease make a video about this !! People need to be informed.
0 likescoffee king
0 likesHe said it clear in the discord. And if the """debt""" is not paid, the receiver of the money will assume 51% of disrupt, and have "other plans" for the channel.
0 likes@therealquade Please post on WSB. This may be the dumbest DD I've read.
0 likesI came back to this video to invest after watching it yesterday. I'm a huge fan of disrupt, but I'm also a bigger fan of Coffeezilla because I work in Blockchain and coffeezilla investigations help me and my team build better, communicate better, and grow as a positive business. This comment just saved me some cash, thanks bro.
0 likesdam
0 likesWe NEED a video on this.
1 likeWe need comments
0 likesYikes, coffee on the case isn't a great sign. (Love ya work)
0 likesDirectly from the last page of the financial statement:
0 likes"Jak has agreed to equity crowdfund 10% of Disrupt to pay the remaining member buyout in full, expand the operations of Disrupt, and bring high-quality content to new markets. "
"Disrupt has defaulted on a Promissory Note with a prior member of the company and as of May 23rd, 2022 currently owes the Noteholder a Note Balance of $466,179.87 on which interest is accruing at a rate of 2.5% per annum. Disrupt will use $500,000 of the Campaign proceeds to pay off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder’s counsel, and to pay Disrupt’s legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF. "
I think this is single-handedly the worst thing you could do. The entire comment section is either people saying they’ve lost their respect for this channel, or warning people not to do it. At most, they’re saying they aren’t going to buy it and telling people to be cautious.
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Yeah he just ain’t good at making money.
31 likesThis is a horrible look. I’m hoping this is some kind of joke but it does not appear it is. Talk about a channel going from absolutely adored by everyone to an absolute disaster in 1 video. Jesus.
62 likes@EyeQon yeah I'll still support them but if he or the people he works with doesn't address this nor apologize I won't
4 likesits the best thing he could have done lmao
0 likes@p0k3mn how so?
2 likesBro let's be logic here, there's absolutely no reason for a brained human being would go down this path other than because of one is forced to. For example, maybe he is in a lot of debt or something. We don't know what's happening to him right now. What am I trying to saying here is please, everyone, don't send hate to him like this. As a human being with a heart, I just feel bad for him 😢
7 likes@ChillTox selling 10% of the company means nothing and it’s a way to pay off their debt so they can get back to making usual content
4 likes@p0k3mn Yeah but it's at the expense of misleading hundreds or potentially thousands of your viewers being scammed out of at least $100 dollars. I imagine the amount of return you would get on a $100 investment would be laughably low. This video is misleading, and if he told the truth nobody would do it. Can you seriously tell me that misleading viewers into wasting significant portions of money on a large scale is the best thing he could've done?
3 likes@Muhd Shatar he is in a lot of debt, but he is trying to scam his audience to pay back the debt.
6 likes@B T ok u win i won't argue any further im no keyboard warrior
2 likesMy English have gotten quite good but I don't understand talks like this can, anyone tldr?
0 likes@Aru the channel owner is in a lot of debt, and is trying to scam the viewers by selling a percent of the money the channel earns. He is trying to sell it for more money than it’s worth to scam the viewers
1 likeIf you look at the balance sheet, he is in around $475,000 debt for buying his partner out of the channel. This appears to be a last ditch way of making that back to stop himself defaulting on the debt. That's where the money is going (clearly stated, buried on the last page of the financial report), not into feature films or studio facilities. Anyone "investing" in this is getting conned, unfortunately.
0 likesFrankly, I would feel much more comfortable with mechanisms such as Patreon being used to fund your channel. I don't want to own what you do, or have a say in it - I want you to be as independent in terms of how you creatively express yourselves as possible.
391 likesThat is what makes this channel, or ANY artistic expression, so valuable.
My return on this investment is not money, it is the artistic enrichment of myself and others. I don't want you to grow for gains and profits, I want you to grow into more of this enrichment.
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Well this is a company, not a youtube channel where Jak decides what he wants to do. He's only doing this to pay back a 500,000 USD debt that he defaulted on.
5 likes@Selection Thing is, once a company has many shareholders, he'll stop doing what he wants to do and be forced to make money for the shareholders.
4 likes@Hristiyan Delisyarov only if he isnt the majority (50% or more) selling 10% will do literally nothing no downsides this is nothing but a positive for the viewers
0 likesIf one were to decide to invest, the 10% of shares he is selling are non-voting. So regardless of if you were to invest or not, you will not get a say in company decisions.
0 likes@Landen Hayes No, but he will get a lawsuit, because he must have his shareholders' best interest in mind. You can't do an IPO to payback loans, as that kills the investment of the shareholders. It's pretty close to a crypto rug-pull
1 like@p0k3mn the money won't help improve content either
0 likes@p0k3mn Not necessarily. When I think of stocks, I think of later opportunity. I want to have something back, and want there to be more money for me in return. The company will begin to try and grow more and more to fuel things. They'll also have less money available than otherwise because now they have to pay back shareholders. That's quite the opposite of what I want!
0 likesI want to show that the channel I am supporting should be allowed to be independent of any growth, I don't want anything back apart from the content I am enjoying and coming for.
When you buy stocks, you're telling them that you want money, not content.
I thought this was a joke. You're in debt and selling out. If you have to pay back stuff then that's fine but don't mislead everyone. Also, a $10+ million dollar valuation of a channel with only a little over 1M subs? You're out of your mind. You guys make great content, but channels this size weren't making that much even before Adpocalypse. This reeks of poor judgement. If you roll this proposal back you might be able to save face, but if you stick to this, you're gonna lose a lot of people that were making you money to begin with. This could easily be career suicide. You owe 500k for the portion of the channel you bought out, so if you need to pay that back, why not use the ad money? If you aren't making enough to do that, why would you think anyone would ever want to invest?
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because hype is all you need for people to invest unfortunately
3 likesNot arguing that this isn't a clear scam but before adpocalypse 1m+ subs were earning easily 5 million-10 million.
2 likesNow there is no chance.
It IS a joke! Well, a scam, anyway. He's been bragging about how easy it will be to rip off his audience on Discord. I've seen it.
2 likes@Jason Jones proof, don’t say shit without proof
8 likes@Jason Jones proof?
6 likesWell said
0 likes@Jason Jones ummm do u have any proof cause that's a really big claim
3 likesweird place to find crawlz at but i agree
0 likes@Jason Jones spreading misinformation on the internet, amazing!
2 likes@S B wild Crawlz sighting
0 likesWhile I think your content is absolutely outstanding and that you deserve monetary support to be able to create more, this seems incredibly sketchy in terms of an investment opportunity. $10.7 million valuation is a crazy price for a channel we know little about in terms of statistics and revenue. One of your answers to a question on the wefunder site was that your company probably won't be able to afford a buy-back, like how actual shares work. With a YouTube channel valued at $10.7 million, this seems a little strange. It's a very interesting and intriguing idea but with the amount of online scams spiking in the last couple of years, this move sort of gravitates toward that. Still looking forward to everything you guys put out though!
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Great thought
16 likesthanks for saying this, it makes people not only looking at the fantasy world but really make a awareness what can happen.
23 likesWith 7000 shares being 0.07% of the company, at $100/23 shares or ~$4.35/share it's actually about 43.5 million dollars
38 likesSame this is sketch
18 likesAgreed
5 likesThis isn't like an IPO for a large corporation. You have to remember that with content creation there will always be people willing to donate money to support their favorite content creators. So regardless of this "evaluation", equity can and will simply be seen as a perk of supporting a channel and an idea they love. Imagine if all those people buying subscriptions on Twitch also got equity in the revenue of all of their content creator's merch sales as a perk. That's what this would be more akin to.
18 likesI totally agree, I just found this channel less than a year ago and now I am like what?
6 likes@Spoonfed you had me on the first sentence. I don't think this has any relation to twitch subs, and hes not asking for a gofundme he keeps saying "invest" so why changing his words?
5 likes@brick The site is literally called ''we fund'' lmfao
2 likes@TrumpetWizard They said the channel is valued at 10.7mil usd and that it is offering 250,000 shares
4 likesHe’s got a lot of debt he’s trying to pay back 500k to be exact which is also oddly the amount of money hes trying to raise
6 likes@Toxiic like, if he just framed it as the channel hitting a rough patch, I don't think there'd be an issue with crowdfunding.
4 likesGood that you’re putting this out there. A lot of people view their favorite creators as angels and can do no wrong which isn’t too harmful normally but when money gets involved it can be rlly dangerous
3 likes@Sam T EXACTLY. thank you for succinctly putting it that way. for reference a “medium budget” indie film is about the same—half a million. for reference one of my faves (wristcutters) ended up in the mid 400k range. in terms of quality and digital assets, disrupt as a channel has well exceeded that benchmark. the big “but” is how it’s framed here to ‘investors’ without transparency, which is what gets me.
2 likeswhat's funny is that he could have literally just begged for more money and it would have gone over better
3 likes@eCodex 2.0 I have a theory that Disrupt as it stands is trying to pretty much become a full-blown indie studio, or a small company, or something like that. This whole stock thing seems to indicate that, as well as the unusual language used in the video when referring to the content. They're not called videos, they're called shows. That's why Disrupt is trying to present this weird stock idea in order to "legitimize" themselves instead of admitting to financial issues publicly. They can't discredit themselves via admitting to still relying on crowdfunding, so they do this instead. It's a really dumb idea, but this is the only way I can imagine an idea this moronic getting into their heads.
4 likeshe only makes 100k a year on average from this youtube channel. Its 100% not valued at 10 million. He is only doing this to pay back a debt he accrued from buying the other 50% of the company from his cofounder. That debt is 500,000 USD, and the funding amount is also 500,000 USD. He defaulted on this debt.
1 like10% up for grabs. Divide by 0.07% and multiply by 7000 = 1,000,000 Shares. Divide by 23 shares and multiply by $100 gives a valuation of $4,347,826.10 for 10%. Multiply by 10 for a total valuation of $43,478,261.00 which is a lot of money.
2 likes@Pythonic Demon then there's seriously something wrong because the way they're selling the shares 100% is $43.5M
1 likeshame on you for not mentioning: DISRUPT HAS DEFAULTED ON A PROMISSORY NOTE WITH A PRIOR MEMBER OF THE COMPANY AND AS OF MAY 23, 2022 CURRENTLY OWES THE NOTEHOLDER A NOTE BALANCE OF $466,179.87 ON WHICH INTERST IS ACCURING AT A RATE OF 2.5% PER ANNUM. DISRUPT WILL USE APPROXIMATELY $500,000 OF THE CAMPAIGN PROCEEDS TO PAY OFF THE NOTE BALANCE, TO PAY LEGAL FEES TO THE NOTEHOLDER'S COUNSEL, AND TO PAY DISRUPT'S LEGAL AND REGULATORY FEES IN COMPLICANCE WITH REG CF.
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Yes this promotion is deceptive, no respect for the fans.
84 likes@HyperMario what did you expect haha
3 likessheeeiit, if the mane making 25k like right now that would it would take aprox 18 to 20 years to pay that debt off. But if he do starr making that money les say 50k a year it take only 10 year n sheeit. But like everyone be on this youtube and shit and he be providing good ass films n All. Then again if he do be raising 500k and pays the man off (the channel can flat out plug out lmao) or stay on. idk. Look at netflix stock, disney, paramount. They took lots of debt to create Classics ultimate classics. Hell i might buy me some PARA ffs, they have a 3.8% yield and i think they had robert deniro on there cast who knows. something to think OF
2 likesI reported the video for being Misleading because that's what it is.
15 likesConsidering you copied this from the financial disclosure, I'd say it was mentioned.
2 likes@Agate Films not to the vast majority of people who watch the video though
10 likes@Aman Raihan But everything is posted very clearly on the investment site. It's not hidden.
0 likesAlso shame for not mentioning the fact that the team has been OPENLY BRAGGING ABOUT SCAMMING THEIR AUDIENCE ON DISCORD SINCE MAY!!!
5 likes@James Crock You got this. There are plently of company out there paying good money in dividends today. Arguably bringing real value, excellent investment. I see insiders bought their stock back recently and pretty much held to their stock during that "correction", so at least they believe in their own operation. And holy shit now Buffet is in $PARA as well! I might buy some too.
1 likeAbout the company revenue, Disrupt made $132k of net profit in 2021 (forgetting about that single debt to take full ownership). This should be enough to cover the $30k of liabilities quarterly. But wait for it, the owner is getting paid $83k! So yeah it makes $50k of profit, this equity buyout is plain mismanagement.
@Jason Jones what do you mean by this? not doubting you, just curious, i'm not in the server
5 likesBasically investing in their debt they couldn't pay off with their ad revenue , but the ad revenue is supposed to be the attraction right?
0 likesA rare L from Disrupt. This whole thing feels like a scam. Sorry Jak, I can't go ahead with this.
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It feels like a scam BECAUSE IT IS A SCAM! I am on the Discord where Jak and another team member have been planning this out. They talk openly about deceiving their "stupid viewers." I've seen it. STAY AWAY!
7 likes@Jason Jones Proof??
6 likes@Jason Jones that's a big claim which we need some evidence of
11 likes@Jason Jones Screenshots
1 like@Jason Jones source: "trust me bro"
3 likesI honestly would have supported you had you been honest but now I feel the need to warn others. Take a look at financials, ALL of the money raised (if hit 500k) will go to legal issues that were resolved in court. Owner pay and personal expenses were already $83,568 as of Dec 31 2021. Don't go into business with people that cover up the truth.
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This is the bottom line. And why I’m extremely upset at this channel and this man’s claim. Throughout the video he makes it seem like a fantastic opportunity, when you read the fine print, it’s just him calling donations “investment” that’s predatory
11 likesI'm on Discord with this clown. He's been bragging about how easy it will be for him to "fleece" his audience. He's been talking about it every day for a month. NO ONE will see any returns on their "investments."
0 likes@Jason Jones For real? That's a shame.
0 likes@Jason Jones pics or it didn't happen man
1 like@Jason Jones Prove it make a video just screen record the screen shots
0 likesGetting a lot of "this ain't it, chief" vibes.
241 likesI'm all for supporting a channel by the means of Patreon. I am going to listen to the crowd on this one. No offense, chief.
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That's what I was saying, a go fund me, Patreon, this might be the worst way of going about this
5 likesokay chief. good comment chief.
1 likeAt least your commitment is public with Patreon. The creator and a team member have been laughing about ripping viewers off on Discord for over a month. I've seen them discussing it. DO NOT GIVE THIS CHANNEL MONEY! It will disappear.
1 like"Getting a lot of this aint it chief vibes"-🤓
2 likesThe valuation to me is crazy. Since the number of shares isn't listed except in the video animation we have to assume it was correct, and that's 1 million shares. If $100 buys you 23 shares, then the total share value for all shares is just over 4 million USD. That's still only 10% of disrupt though, which makes disrupt worth $40+million USD. That's in the ballpark of the entire linus media group which has a physical complex, a huge team, over 60X your total views, partnerships, a store, and sponsorships which disrupt cannot reasonably decide to match with their content model. This also places the value (40M usd) at roughly 200 years of current profit, and the point of investing is to enable growth, with this proposal you need to become 200x more profitable for this to be a profitable investment inside a year, or instantly 40X more profitable and maintain that to be a good investment in 5 years. I love disrupt content, but the scant details and odd model feel like this proposale would have been much more honest as a patreon or twitch plug.
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yep, exactly. for every $1 that you invest in this company, you only get 0.00004% equity. that's insane.
47 likesFacts
4 likesMassive scam this channel is
17 likes@I'll punch you In the face I didn't say scam because I don't think it's a scam. The problem is the value of a company and the value of content are entirely different kingdoms here. Lots of patrons would consider $100 a year for exclusive access and extras to be a very reasonable bargain. But the entire problem with this video is presenting disrupt as a profitable business opportunity instead of as an independant quality video production studio with no puppetmasters controlling their bank accounts to make sure they play nice. I just don't see how these models coexist. :(. but "scam" is a bit strong.
42 likesThe problem is they took a loan for $500K, and defaulted. That is why he is trying to raise money. (Read last page of the Financials, bottom of investment webpage)
24 likesanother problem is their financial doc.
8 likesthe last thing on it says, that they owe 500k to a former partner ... and that has an interest rate of a painfull 6% and has to be paid back within a time limit.
since this happened rather recently, its kinda obvious why they started this mess right now. Even without that, the yearly income seems rather unstable and not high enough to be reasonable imo.
Valuation is 10.7 mil according to the link
2 likesDisbursements page says there is 2.5 mil stock overall, 10% is being sold
Still, terrible investment that will lose you money
Mr wonderful?
1 like@Nepheos their income is growing, at least from last year to this year. and they really don't have much expenses considering everyone works for home and are probably contractors. If he were to set up a patreon he would easily make enough money to half his quartly payment. unless his YT stats arent looking good there would be no reason for him to do some stupid thing like this.
1 like@Jakob Esparza for an income source such as youtube, especially when it is one of your primary income sources, which it probably is considering the lack of engagement on their competing platform, revenue is highly variable... not everyone stays relevant on youtube forever and there is a likely long trail of channels from 5 or more years ago you watched who went from millions of views to tens of thousands, if they upload at all.
0 likesalso, i dont think this is a 'scam' but it certaintly is dodgy handling. they are making out something is an opportunity to invest which implies the potential for later returns rather than being clear with what they want and actually raise money through patreon etc... but i dont think that would get much popularity as it would have to be much more clear that its charity to fulfill someone elses bad financial choices
Wow, a $10m evaluation. I hate when people try to "hate-bombed" or cancel channels or whatever, especially when it's on creators I love so much - but I do still want to share my thoughts in the flood of criticism. If I understand correctly, wasn't the evaluation $1m a year ago? My YT channel's financial statements are surprisingly very similar to Disrupt's and I can hardly imagine achieving the original $1m evaluation, and that's without taking the whole debt thing into consideration. Granted, our channels are very different, since mine relies on my presence while Disrupt's content could continue to flourish without the founder which is always a benefit when considering outside capital. Disrupt is also very focused on a subscription model outside of YT while I rely mostly on YouTube as a platform. And finally, Disrupt is growing in popularity more rapidly than I have. But even with all of that taken into consideration, and putting the promissory note aside, I'm still just hung up on how the company has 10x'ed its evaluation in just over 1 year. The approximately 25 videos published since the 500k buyout have been phenomenal videos in every regard, I think I've watched them all at least twice. But I dunno if they proved an additional $9m on the evaluation especially since the channel's growth has been going up, but only gradually - not any sort of explosion the past year. I will continue to adore everything about the content, production value and storytelling this channel brings as I have for over 3 years now but I am so curious on better understanding the process behind achieving the evaluation. I also wish there was a breakdown of revenue, because it sounds like most of it was from YT ads and sponsors which I sadly consider to be unreliable and inconsistent. I will 100% be sticking around for updates, and to simply enjoy and support some of the best vids on this website. I hope everything works out!
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try some paragraphs the next time
1 like@ok no
1 like@GoHerping It looked thoughtful, but I decided not to read it since it wasn’t appealing to the eye (no paragraphs)
1 likeI can't believe he just tanked the reputation of himself and disrupt with a single video. You all might want to start downloading the videos before youtube terminates the channel for tos violations.
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Please archive it with yt-dl or archive org if you are someone who has a lot of bandwidth, time or maybe vps/rdp.
5 likes1. The narrator (Jak) owns 50% of disrupt.
146 likes2. His partner (Jordan) owned 50%.
3. Jak bought Jordans half for $500,000
4. He doesn't have the money to pay for it.
5. So the viewers buy shares and collectively own 10% and their money goes to pay off the half million Jak owes.
6. Each "owner" of .000004% of the company makes squat. But together they pay $500.000 and get 10% of the company at the same price that Jak just bought 50% of the company for.....
Doesn't quite have the same ring to it when said that way
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7. I'm on a Discord server with him where he's been talking about how easy it will be for him to scam his viewers for over a month.
9 likes@Jason Jones Can you pls provide links to back up your claim?
7 likes@Jason Jones This guy should be ashamed of himself. If he's not one would hope his parents were ashamed of him. To do a YouTube channel about something you love really shows when you come out with good content, and we as viewers see that passion and it's the reason we like and subscribe. To turn around and forget how you got here and rip off those same subscribers like we are just a means to an end is soulless and quite frankly disgusting to watch happen. I lost ALL RESPECT for DISRUPT and now see that Jak doesn't care about anyone but himself. News flash Jakko.. your subs aren't stupid. And you just spit in their faces. Let's see how that goes for you. In a year from now, you'll be nothing more than the story of a YouTube channel that crashed and burned covered by actual RESPECTED YouTube channels.
1 like@Jason Jones put the screenshots on imgur and post it on Reddit or something. Or at least send it to a commentary YouTube so people can now
12 likes@Jason Jones Please post evidence on imgur/reddit like the other commenter suggested. If this is really true, they deserve the backlash they'll receive when outed.
7 likes@Jason Jones proof?
2 likes@The Dark Knight Jason is probably trolling dude, he's all over the comment section saying the same thing over and over and not answering to anyone that asks for proof
4 likes@BlankTenshii_Ø Yes I have asked him so many times
0 likesAh shit i pulled out when found out its for paying the debt that already got defaulted.
48 likesGot hyped for the idea of it even if its risky af
But got scared and sad when i found out about the debt (not to mention the evaluation that is blown off, half baked ideas and so on)
Jak you could’ve explained the situation and asked for a crowd found or patreon or anything really.
This shit suck man people are losing trust and may start to leave the channel and if you continue with the idea you will have investors that you will need to answer to, which would even more complicate everything.
I don’t understand why you went that impossible complicated path if you could’ve asked for help first, and only then continue with this endeavor.
I would highly recommend checking out the balance sheet before buying.
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Balance sheet of percentage?
8 likes@Strana to see the total of which your percent comes from.
64 likesLove the channel but indeed thats quite the liability to asset ratio😬
164 likeshttps://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
4 likesFinally its here
@Wessel If I’m being charitable, it seems like a way to pay off the debt to his ex-partner. If not, then this could be just a way for them to share an easy $250,000.
71 likesLooks like they posted their financials here...
40 likesdisr(.)pt(/)financials(/)
Remove the parentheses
@Tyler Boyle Wow thanks for this. $500,000 to pay back over the course of 5 years with a 6% interest rate 😬 Seems as thought the $500,000 is just to get his friend paid back rather than an actual "investment opportunity." Would definitely be cool if it all works out for investors though.
47 likesCan somebody tell me what the ROI rate is? Can't find it.
1 like@GOOD LIFE they gotta pay back the ex-partner first. This doesn’t look good & really should have been presented as a charitable offer... in that case, I would donate.
35 likes@GOOD LIFE If they wanted you to know it, would be in all caps in the video. The point is you won't make any money back. There is no upper limit for the funding and a lot of credulous people are gonna jump right in, meaning the ROI gets worse and worse. Read the financials, the company has defaulted. This is bad.
35 likes@pyropulse I think you might’ve misunderstood what I meant. I absolutely know that this is a bad investment, but I was saying it WOULD be cool if investors actually had solid returns with it. Will they? Undoubtedly not. We’re definitely on the same page about him asking for money as an “investment.” Just clearing it up. 👍🏻
0 likesSadly this is a scam. The company is evaluated roughly 15-20x what it should be. The dividends (what the investor makes) is based on net profit after production expenses. This includes all the salaries, which include the owner (salary not mentioned). Traditionally investment is based on stock price based on company evaluation, but here, you can't resell it. In other words, you will receive pennies on the dollar. Jak (founder/owner) said it best "do not expect to receive more than a few cents for many years to come."
110 likesIf Jak said he needed cash and had a go fund me, of course, id give him a dollar or two. But sadly, he relied on smoke and mirrors. Because of that, not only can you not rely on the business evaluation, but you can't trust the 'CEO' of this company.
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I agree. He leaves out all of the real truths and reasons in the video, makes it seem fun to unbeknownst supporters that might be daft to boilerplate. If you read the fine print, it’s just a full blown manipulation to get his viewers money without being straightforward with us all. Just another sleazy sales tactic. I’m terribly disappointed at this all.
6 likesSuch a moronic decision. Channels this size make thousands a month on patreon. If he did that in addition to sponsored videos, he'd have knocked out that massive debt in 1-2 years.
2 likesPretty sure these guys will get hit with selling an unregistered security unless they ensure all investors are accredited which I highly doubt will be the case.
42 likesPlease hire a financial advisor or professional, the numbers don't check out to any sane person. You've built such a high quality product and still have much room to grow, do not let it all go to a trap. We all love your channel, but this just does not seem right.
60 likesYou really should've divulged the whole partner buyout thing.
28 likesThere will be videos made about this video in years to come. I can feel it. Good luck.
This is single handedly the worst trade deal in the history of trade deals
18 likes"Disrupt, Inc’s valuation has been determined internally, without a formal-third party independent evaluation."
7 likesThe $10.7 M valuation is solely supported by "trust me bro"
The company is closer to be worth around $500K. They currently make $30K per quarter and have a defaulted debt of $500 K with a quarterly payment of $29K until 2026. Which means that with current revenue nobody will see a cent for at least 5 years. No investments will be made to increase the content production. So at this point the channel strategy is basically get saved by the algorithm.
Additionally, the co-owner helped with the content creation, and now disrupt will have to pay someone a wage to do those functions. That is an extra liability that is currently not mentioned.
I'm pretty sure selling a channel is against community guidelines or the terms of service. I haven't read them myself but I've seen it talked about as a big no no before. You really zhould read the TOS front to back to make sure you aren't in violation of that before you get your channel deleted all together accidentally...
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He is selling the company producing the content and owning the IP. Absolutely legal. By the way this is a scam, read the financials, don't buy into it.
19 likes@HyperMario I'm not saying it's illegal im saying it's against youtubes TOS. You can do something legal and still break a private platforms rules....
10 likes@HyperMario also I'm not considering buying, I think just reading the youtube description of this video shows how deceptive this is. I'm honestly kinda disappointed. I think if he jusy put up a crown funder and said he was in a bad financial position it would be more transparent and honestly I'm saddened and disappointed at this video...
10 likes@Rowan Raine Yeah illegal was the wrong word, I mean there is no basis for YT to do anything about this as the company is operating opaquely on the account. So they have no saying in any internal restructuring (but maybe on the video itself if they consider it as wire fraud).
6 likesAnd I agree this is super disappointing to take advantage of credulous individuals in the audience that hope to make actual money in times of need, honestly I'm unsubbing.
Been seeing a lot of people looking into their sheets, and all their stuff is upfront if you're trying to educate yourself before investing. Absolutely nobody is forcing you to go in blind a blind investment is just moronic. Regardless of how the video is presented all the facts are public domain.
3 likesThere are a lot of people selling channels on the forum market. They're selling channels with a lot of subscribers or views by farming them.. like you know, for example, that channel that keeps uploading Family Guy episodes, Tiktok, or music album channels..
2 likesThis channel is going 'bye bye.' Google doesn't allow cash grab scams on their platform.
0 likesBefore this rant, I want to make something clear. I love this channel, I think your work is amazing, easily one of the best channels on YouTube that follow the documentary-esque content format.
22 likesWith that said, valuing this channel at $10.4m is... Optimistic to say the least. Especially when your financials state the company made $130k last year (this is before deducting what you pay yourself as the owner) and has $500k in outstanding debt (that you have DEFAULTED on) from buying a 50% stake in the company from your co-founder.
With those numbers, what made you think the 50% stake you bought for $500k on June 1st 2021 inflated to $5m in the 14 months since then, for you to then sell 10% to us at that inflated rate? Did you find a particularly rich vain of gold under the disrupt offices? Perhaps crude oil began coming out of the faucets instead?
On top of all this, you obscure these figures and facts, putting them just out of reach for anyone who trusts what you've said in the video and 'invests' before they go to the bottom of your wefunder page, and then scroll to the bottom a plain text financial report to get information you should have been transparent about from minute one of your deer skit.
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Kind of looks like you realised this channel isn't worth the $1m you thought it was worth those 14 months ago and you're trying to have your cake and eat your viewers cake too.
6 likesHe is going to be frustrated now (like his thumbnail lol). Well, let's just see the fire burned or extinguished... Why doesn't he just be truthful and ask for a donation instead? It's like my man doesn't want to beg or look stcupid. lmao
1 likefacepalm no no— it's forehead palm kek lol
0 likes@Monarker He's always had this aura of pseudo intellectualism about his videos
1 likeIn fact, due to the loan interest and payments, the channel should be bankrupt in a matter of months. The video references this at the very beginning, citing 'internal restructuring', deceptive to say the least.
1 likeIf the channel was valued at $1M, then his half was worth $500k. He bought the other half for $500k, borrowing the money from his current half, meaning he (and by proxy the channel he now owns) is now worth $0 when you add up the debt. The company still has a $1M "valuation", but has a $0 financial backing, with HORRIBLE financials, and is all but bankrupt.
Not entirely sure if this analysis is correct, but this is how I see it.
I'll be completely honest, no sane investor would invest in this until there is more information released, like people within the company, cash made now vs a per monthly basis since the channel's inception. You know, basic portfolios that would attract a house fly
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Lmao that is true, at least a basic portfolio would be useful with revenue from the past 3 yrs or summin. But checking their socialblade, they seem to make around 4k-60k annually and their subs only seems to be increasing
13 likesThe accounts are on the crowdfunding page, scroll all the way to the bottom and you should see a link to a PDF.
13 likesdisr(.)pt(/)financials without brackets to see their balance sheet
6 likes@T33 check description...
1 like@T33 I still wouldn't invest in it. It doesn't seem like it is going to profitable for a long time
7 likes@T33 You can find the link to their financials if you go to the link in the description, but it ain't looking too good. The corporation is 500k in debt and it even states he defaulted on one of the payments which could lead to a lawsuit.
8 likes@Crying cookie im not an accountant and I may have read it wrong but it looks like they have $73 in the bank? Is that correct?
0 likes@T33 guess what babe, I feel
0 likesSadly he's not trying to attract investors, he is trying to attract fans with more dedication and surplus cash than wisdom or experience. I hate saying that about such a good channel too...
2 likes@Gabriel Is Ant Swans x Boss Baby. ground breaking yet much anticipated collab
0 likes@Crying cookie bruh
0 likes@Logan B Not sure on that, don't remember how much it said they had in bank.
0 likeshonestly this just seems like a huge guilt trip with the whole path a path b thing. it
8 likesboils down to "if you don't 'invest' the channel is going to be worse!! invest or you'll lose our content"
I'm here to watch this channel crumple. Not that I want to, but it all seems to me like a high production scheme.
17 likesI get it tho, this is a great strategy to trick the algorithm and bring this channel in the YouTube spotlight.
On the other hand, I really want to see this work somehow but I doubt it will.
1. Sell 20% of the company's net revenue
119 likes2. Pay debt
3. Keep creating the same content
4. Give the company's president a salary equal to the company's revenue
5. Company never has revenue
6.???
7. Profit
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See the weird thing to me is that if this was a Patreon with worthless rewards, nobody would care and the support would roll in. Why go this route?
3 likesHis debt is 2.5% & incredibly cheap. He could easily pay that off with even just the channel's regular income. I love this idea. If he waited for the channel's financials to be healthy and gave it a better valuation he would have killed it. Who knows though? He'll probaly hit his goal anyway.
@Ian his debt is 500K, at 6% interest and defaulted. This is just a lawsuit in the making if he doesn't pay it quick to his old co-owner. That is probably why he is doing this. To get the money quick. At the same time there are multiple loop holes like the one I mentioned in which he can just not pay any revenue ever to anyone even if he does make money in the future.
6 likesYou can invest if you want. Just be minded that you have been warned of the possible red flags.
And that valuation of $ 10.7 M is nowhere justified in the financial reports.
So this is new. Never thought I'd see anything like this especially coming from a channel that I love. Good luck with everything but I have a bad feeling that no matter how this whole thing goes, I think this channel might be done no matter how much you raise. Just seems really shitty
14 likesi love the videos on this channel and appreciate the production quality, but this kind of "investment" talk feels a bit weird... i understand that you guys want to grow and support your channel but this comes across like a lot of other "investment" type scams we see all the time online nowadays. just feels like you're trying to make this seem like a bigger "opportunity" than it is for so called investors when you're ultimately going to profit the most
285 likesedit: not to mention how the financial documents seem to disclose this "investment" will go towards paying off a buyout debt the channel's current owner has of about $500k. there's a real problem here with a lack of disclosure about what the funds will truly be used for under the guise of improving the channel itself. be careful and make sure you know what you're actually giving your money here towards.
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3 likesPut it perfectly into words
3 likesObviously the people running the show are going to take a bigger share of the pie, but as long as investors can get a steady stream of passive income and dividends
4 likes@G VS so a pyramid scheme?
7 likes@G VS that's the thing though, the investors realistically will get little to no return. they even say that realistically your $100 won't net you more than a few cents for YEARS. it's not a good "investment" as much as it realistically is just a glorified kickstarter for angel investors, but i don't think they're doing a good job presenting that as being the case
16 likesthis is a scam
9 likesIt’s a scam
4 likesIf they won't get 500k quick they will be bankrupt. Jak took 500k debt to buy back the whole equity and defaulted on the loan. If you invest 500k, you will just make that debt go away but they won't have any money to pay for better content. Jak made a bad financial decision and doesn't want to bear consequences himself.
5 likesFrom what I read, he’s basically asking for 10.7 million dollars to pay off his debt
4 likesThe initial pay would leave him better off, however I believe that the videos will continue to grow in views and gain more equity making it a better investment over time.
2 likesYeah Ferrari doesn’t try and sell you their stock when buying a Ferrari
3 likesCould it be..??? A checkmark who isnt just a yesman? hats off to you sir or madam. Keep up the good work of informing people.
1 likeWell done on rewording coffeezillas comment. You're very smart bro
0 likes@Da Batman it's all explained in zillas comment
0 likes@Enclave propoganda it wouldn't leave him better off. It would just get him out of debt.
0 likes@Ashley R i commented 11 hours ago, coffeezilla commented 8 and a multitude of discussions were going on before and after either of us commented! it's not a competition to both have the same idea that something was off when the evidence was there
0 likes@hackerling 12 hours ago. Why lie
0 likes@Ashley R are you for real lmao
0 likesRIP cool YouTube channel, it was great while it lasted. I hope bankruptcy doesn't personally sink you, but you can't do this man, none of this stuff holds up in the least.
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My man didn't even think that he could afford that shit out or not. Well, it is what it is. All he could do now is apologize for the bullshit and ask fans to donate to help him. lmao
4 likesJak, i've known you for nearly 10 years. This channel (before it became disrupt) is a part of why I went into media production, it sucks to see you make this decision and I can see from the comments most people think this is a ridiculous idea and have clearly looked into it more than I have. I've got a lot of happy memories working with you and its disheartening to see this happen and the choice you're making. I wish you the best mate but I can't support this.
4 likesMan, a $10.7 mil valuation on a company that brings in 51k gross a year (so 27k profit) is pretty interesting. At the 10% dividend rate and 250,000 shares, this means that each share if revenue stays equal will earn slightly over one cent a year. This one cent stock would be valued at $4.00. Not the craziest price ratio I've ever heard but a very mediocre and not promising launch.
9 likesIn other words, to regain what you've spent on investing at these rates would take 400 years.
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50K was 2020. 200K 2021.
0 likesi've been subbed for several years and i've always felt exactly two ways about this channel:
49 likes- the quality of the videos are surprisingly good.
- there's a lot of "volatility" going on in the background.
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So true. I think jak is a bit sus tbh
16 likesThe quality is surprisingly good because there are multiple editors + it's like a company rather than just a youtube channel
4 likes@eqods 1 But even "company" youtubers don't try to sell you their channel. The only reason Disrupt is doing this (more specifically Jak) is probably because of a 500k loan he has to pay back. "Investing" won't create better quality content and it certainly won't earn you any form of money for many, many years.
19 likes@Fidelio I've always felt that feeling watching his videos, now I know why
2 likesi love this channel and i do not intend on ceasing viewership but i still think investing through an online program like this, regardless of legality is a pretty fucking bad idea
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the irony when disrupts avg user base is entirely too suspicious and savvy to buy in (literally). i’m still going to watch as a viewer and support at a distance but totally agreed
67 likes@eCodex 2.0 It’s always the ones you think aren’t the biggest suckers…are.
22 likes@Fidelio god bless jak in his elizabeth holmes arc
3 likes@eCodex 2.0 That’s too upmarket for him. Maybe nikola motors?
6 likesShould we send this video to cold fusion? 😂
Scroll down to the bottom of the investment page and click on "review our financials". The company hasnt even made $500k in its lifetime yet he values it at $10 mil. Also you will be able to see why hes really doing it, he bought 50% of the company from the previous co-owner for $500k and has now defaulted on the payment plan for this amount. Hes selling 10% of the channel to pay back 500k he owes, not to improve the channel.
8 likes@Fidelio now that's new thinking
0 likes@rel8 m8 oh i know. i apologise if any of my comments could have come across as endorsing this—i know it’s a death play for jak to try and cover a defaulted 500k promissory. while i empathise with the insane level of desperation he must be feeling to have even thought this was a remotely good idea, it’s still a complete bomb and this will be the subject of articles+documentaries in years to come
2 likes@Fidelio i would die to watch a cold fusion breakdown of this issue omg
0 likes@eCodex 2.0 you may live to see it
0 likesThis is EXTREMELY disappointing. This is in my top 10 channels I watch almost every upload. I do hope things get better but I cannot with good faith "invest" $100. I do wish you all the luck in the world though, stay safe.
7 likesThis sounds sketchy af, we don't even know the statistics etc of the channel. I also feel like this would not go well with Youtube ToS.
38 likesIf you want to be serious with this and want to sound legit why not make it a public company that people can invest in like normal, with the recent rise in influencer scams this seems like a really bad idea.
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thats because it IS sketchy. he is doing this entire thing because he defaulted on a 500k USD debt. the funding goal is also 500k, and he states all of the money goes towards paying that debt. You also will not even more than a few cents in profits, as Jak himself says.
5 likesi say this as someone who has been well into the depths of medical debt well upward of your defaulted: declare bankruptcy. start fresh. if you’re not planning on leaving the country to get clear, even then, start fresh. i’m so sorry that you’re in the base position to have had to “buy out” a channel partner at that sum, but i promise this isn’t the way to resolve the default.
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He should I sell the channel to his partner and he can keep creating content.
0 likesman, i don’t know how to feel about this. you should be upfront atleast and say you are needing $500k to pay your former partner back and ask for donations, rather than making it seem like it’s an investment opportunity.
5 likesi consider myself a massive fan of the great work you guys put out, but this just seems like a really bad move. at the very least, this is a bad look, which will potentially push people away from the channel before they even give it a chance.
i hope you secure the funds you need, of course, but this was not what i was expecting from you guys.
Yeah, I don't know about this. Most people would call it a glorified scam. Just become a publicly traded company if you want serious investors. But hey, I could be wrong, I wouldn't call you guys scammers, but at the same time, it smells sus to anyone who's been online for the last 20+ years.
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The problem is its the old early access idea. "Pay now so we can use that money for our product." However what really happens is getting the money before incentives less quality sense you already have the money.
111 likeshttps://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
2 likesFinally its here
sounds like a pyramid scheme to me…
61 likesYea as I was hearing about it..it sounds sketchy. "Buy our product/invest now and you get money" and it's almost like...somethings up. I don't know shit abt investing but even I know that what he proposed was sketchy and sus to anyone with half a braincell.
65 likesI wouldn't call it a scam. An IPO is very complicated and a pain in the butt to accomplish. As far as we know this is the first round of investments which is almost always before an IPO. If they were looking to scam, they wouldn't have shown their Financials and everything to make it seem legit. Only thing I disagree with is the value they consider the company to be worth ($10m). I don't think it's worth close to that but people investing will still own a share of the company. It's not a scam.
45 likesIm really glad someomes saying it
8 likesThe $500K investment is going towards a promissory note they’ve already defaulted on. The valuation in their financial disclosure is preposterous.
41 likesI think the benefit in privately issuing shares is that they can accomplish the goal of raising capital without the added volatility of public markets.
5 likesThis makes the most sense to me at least. They get to set the rules, mitigate some risk, and keep including fans in their decisions.
I thought kinda the same thing but more like ... an opportunity to waste money.
11 likesThe views are not extremely high, in correlation to how much they upload.
Ya fam, legit ong. Ngl it do sound mad sus. Not catching a vibe on this one.
17 likesNot really sure I'd be taking too much financial advice from teenagers...
You can't just become a publicly traded company
3 likesYou are wrong and it is very clear you have no idea how investing works. To become publicly traded company it is extremely hard this is very common and how Angel investing actually works in silicon valley if you think it's a scam don't invest in it.
6 likesYou can't just call things you don't understand a scam.
@Crispy Do you know what a pyramid scheme is?
6 likes@will m yeah instead lets only listen to the guy trying to sell us something
6 likesBecoming a publicly traded company would then open the requirement of having an executive board, investor voting rights etc. This way the company stays private and the director can manage still manage the company without having to appease investor
3 likes@Sarls I didn't say to listen to him, either. But I'm certainly not taking advice from someone who still gets excited about spring break.
1 likeWhat isn't PLC about this?
0 likes@will m Sick burn! Very nice. 👏
2 likesIT IS a scam
2 likes@will m well your comment is definitely more detrimental for stupid investors than teenagers apparently giving skepticism a bad name, i hope your first comment made you feel big
4 likesThis is shady, the company owes $500k to a former associate since the guy took full ownership one year ago. The company defaulted and is financing the amount due via crowdfunding. This is in the financials. No mention of any of this in the campaign itself.
13 likes@HyperMario yo no way, where can i read about that
1 like@Crispy Why? Lmao do you even know what the term means or are you just throwing words around?
1 like@will m You are exactly the person scammers are looking for
6 likes@GOOD LIFElightly know the term, but cmon.
0 likes@Sarls Linked at the very bottom of the page of the campaign, click on the link pinned. Prolly mandatory for compliance with regulations. Enjoy!
3 likesIts like donating to him
3 likesI just signed up. Here's how I see it. I give hundreds of dollars a month to creators on Patreon where I get nothing back besides a warm fuzzy feeling. So for me, this is like a "Patreon plus", where I'm supporting a creator I believe in, but there's a chance I'll get something more than a warm fuzzy feeling in return. Feels like a win-win to me.
3 likes@Paul S Rohrbaugh The point is this is not presented as a donation but as a competitive way to make money. Watching the initial shady and foggy offer and breaking down the hidden backstory has been quite insulting throughout. I donate for some free content I read but I would never put a penny for that. Too bad he will get his money in no time from the people.
5 likesI totally agree. I like this channel, I don't want that to change
1 like@OBAD 76 thats not really how it works. i get what your saying there but their reasoning was that they needed capital to make higher quality videos sense it takes money to make money
1 like@CARPO719 yes but staying blind and PAYING them isn’t helping tbh
0 likesI don't think they can legally do IPO with such small size. Market capitalization required for that is probably in billions. Besides it looks like they have over evaluated their valuation anyway. That will get caught by authorities before IPO.
0 likesI've loved this channel since I stumbled across it but I need more reassurance to as where the money is going before I drop $100. Where are you guys planning on going with the content or will you guys produce a real tangible product? What's the timeline/burndown chart look like? And, how many shares do you guys currently have in circulation?
5 likesEdit: nevermind, after seeing Coffeezillas comment it's apparent this is more of a charity run than an actual investment opportunity. I'd make more burning $100 on doge or shiba tbh.
Edit-Edit: unsubbed.
Reading the comments here it looks like you got tons of passionate viewers interested in seeing this channel growing that would've been more than happy to support you through patreon for example, me included. Looking forward to see what your response to the community will be after reading through the comments. The content released on this channel I've enjoyed greatly, I'd just hate to see the end of it...
2 likesMan that’s a shame, this channel was one of the few that had my respect in terms of quality content.
16 likesThe idea of investing in YouTube channels and earning a percentage of the revenue is an incredible way to diversity your portfolio. However, this valuation is unbelievably overvalued
25 likesThis is sadly a desperate somewhat last resort type idea. We’re missing something here.. & I hate that this situation has come forth. Let’s no rush into this gentlemen. Wishing the best as always! One of my favorite channels by far. (No way the value is correct.)
2 likesFrom the website:
6 likes"I do not expect that you will receive a
substantial amount of dividends for quite some
time. Disrupt is an early stage startup and
should be viewed as a long-term investment,
rather than a quick return. As such, if you invest
$100 today, do not expect to receive more than
a few cents for many years to come."
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I feel like selling a channel is like an artist trying to sell his art form.
2 likesWhat is the point? Only one person can create the art.
I'm always disappointed when YouTube channels go for the money instead of the content. Because if you provide something great, the money will come.
You have a wonderful channel. But it's because you have the channel and maintain it.
If you sell parts of your channel like stock, it means other people have control over your art form, meaning it can easily descend into garbage like so many other channels have..
Ultimately it is your choice. I don't know the details behind it. But I hope you continue to provide awesome content for people that you make yourself for your own reason.
But I have had my YouTube channel for 12 years and made 4,500 videos, and though I'm not a graphic artist, the content is if anybody wants to give me 10 million I'm all over it. 😀
(I may not be a graphics expert, but the words are there)
It looks like this money is being raised to cover the $500,000 debt Jak accrued when he bought the rest of the channel from the other founder. It's in their financials at the WeFunder link. Also, Jak himself says on the Disrupt disbursements page that investors won't make more than a few cents from their investment for "years to come." I'd be very wary of "investing" in this project. Think of it like a donation, if anything.
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Why can’t he just call it what it is?
32 likesYeah If he reaches 500k than he will just pay back the debt that the company defaulted on. Not a cent of more money for channel to develop new content, just paying back stupid loan. The guy who is owed 500k was doing the work for the equity that was bought out, so if you account for it, net income will be lower once Jak hires a person in his place. It may be profitable but barely. Not worth any investment.
62 likesinteresting how he'll happily mention the other reason for investment and not just "oh yeah I've also just racked up a huge debt that I'm not sure I can support for 5 years"
30 likes@00FF00 Where do you see that he bought the channel for 500k or did I miss something, just curious.
3 likes@Crying cookie Go to the link in the description and look for the financial reporting document. Scroll all the way to the bottom and read the last bulletpoint. It’ll mention the defaulted $500K promissory note to a previous partner.
27 likes@Sebastian Nietzsche Thank you, I can see it now.
5 likes@Fidelio because no one wants to willingly pay off another person's debt, especially when you work hard for what you got and the economy is near the edge of collapse.
2 likesIt doesn't matter what it looks like. A scam is what it actually is. The creator and someone else on his team have been joking about how easy it will be to scam their viewers on Discord since mid-May. I've seen it. DO NOT GIVE DISRUPT MONEY!
1 like@Jason Jones were they? damn, could you give screenshots, if possible?
0 likes@Jason Jones Can you upload a video so I can see
0 likesWhat he said: "I am selling this channel."
6 likesWhat he meant: "I am selling out to dodge financial trouble."
If you were honest about the real reason you need that money (to pay back debt), people would have actually donated. Stop it until its to late, give the ones who invested their money back and start a fundraiser instead.
5 likesThis ain't it man you and everyone else watching know it just as well as I do.
4 likes“Disrupt will use approximately $500,000 of the Campaign proceeds to pay off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder's counsel, and to pay Disrupt's legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF.”
3 likesEnough said…
i won’t lie, this made me lose a lot of respect for disrupt as a whole. your financials aren’t exactly pristine, especially in regards to your balance sheet (specifically the liability to asset ratio), and as such, asking for people to invest for equity in a channel with a bogus, grossly inflated valuation seems nothing short of a scam to me. others are free to do as they see fit, but this seems entirely contrived and nonsensical to me.
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agreed. hopefully they figure out a more civil & positive solution.
12 likesAgreed.
5 likesWith the type of audience this channel attracts you'd think he's know better than to expect us to do something so illogical
25 likes@DCJ literally was thinking the same
1 like@DCJ Nah it makes so much sense. The people who think they won’t fall for it will.
5 likesHubris and all that.
This is like a real life Dragon's Den lmao
0 likesAfter looking through the other projects on wefunder I can pretty confidently say this website is nothing but scams. Most of them spit out the same buzzwords on repeat while selling snake oil to people not informed enough to see through. I'm disappointed in you Disrupt, thought you were better than this.
4 likes$100 is a lot, if I was a patron who wanted to support the channel by giving a donation to create content this is a more enticing alternative. But as someone that can live without most YouTube content I consume I wouldn’t ‘invest’ in it hoping for a return.
4 likesMy main problem with this is we have no idea how much of that debt to the co-founder has been paid back, and if he doesn't pay back the remaining debt including interest at the end of the 5 years, what will it mean for this channel and my investment?
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ded lol
1 like@Monarker Bingo
1 likeThe debts are valued around 500,000 USD. yea, it’s a lot
0 likesI think Disrupt is genuinely one of the best creators on this platform but the numbers don't add up. This is sketchy. Man's basically taking donos to pay off debt... This isn't a good investment y'all.
4 likesSurely this wont end up being a complete disaster
5 likesdude, open a patreon. your viewers are more than willing to help you pay off debt if you need that.
9 likesdon't know anything about finance but this felt really strange when i started watching... the explanation in the comments made it even worse. i respect the time, money and effort that go into the high quality videos and look forward to your ambitious plans for the future but this is just not it. def not the way to go about it.
They are valuing their company at 5M dollars, so 100 dollars gets you a 0.002% share of profits after they pay for expenses and salary.
2 likesDisrupt make great videos. I imagine they spend a lot on making them. Can’t imagine profit being huge.
I've been loving this channel for the past 2 years I've been subbed. But there's gotta be a different way around this man, I have a feeling shits gonna hit the fan.
1 likeRead financial statements. It's a trap. Jak (the main narrator) bought half of Disrupt for $500 000 from a second owner. Jak defaulted on that loan almost immediately. The crowdfunding is required to pay back the loan that Jak defaulted on. Don't buy stuff you can't afford man. Look at company financials, their revenue doesn't support 10M valuation. Person who was doing the work for "free" and had 50% equity ownership is not included in the cost of revenue but eventually cost the company $500k. Once you account for that, this company may be barely profitable. This company is not worth 10M.
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Yeah you sound right
19 likesHe doesn’t even monetise the content that well anyway.
21 likesIt's just a donation to keep the channel alive
23 likes@Charliezard as a donation it’s completely fine I love the channel. as an investment it’s not good at all
81 likes@Charliezard Jak shouldn't have taken 500k loan that he can't pay back and has defaulted on. Why do you want to pay back his debt of 500k which he used to buy back 50% of company shares? You can get just 10% of shares in return for the same price, it's not a good deal. Someone here is trying to milk you out of money, otherwise you would be able to buy 50% of a company for 500k.
58 likes@O M yeah that's what I'm saying. The investment claim is a scam for sure
9 likes@00FF00 Yeah I agree, I'm not defending him. I previously stated it's a scam on the financial aspect but if you like the channel and want them to keep producing high quality videos then a donation is an idea
6 likes@Charliezard sorry i misunderstood you’re completely right and I agree
1 likeYeah, give me 100 bucks and same time next year I'll give you 20 back .. sounds like a good deal
3 likesThat 10M isn't for the entire company either. The whole thing would be in the ballpark of 40M and they're selling about a quarter of it in shares
5 likesBecause companies trade at multiples of their valuation because investors look ahead at future profitability. It’s how equity works.
1 like@Charliezard so why not use services like Patreon or similar? Trying to give shares is now in the realm of finance and complicates things more.
3 likes@Elmers G. Lue that's up to the owner of the channel, I'm only speaking about the audience since there's no Patreon or similars
0 likes@TrumpetWizard they are selling %10 in shares, your math would make it worth 100M. There is literally no way that this company is even worth a million without the 500k debt.
1 likeVideo is currently at 40k views but has 10k likes in less than 2 hours. That does not fit the like to view ratio of other videos at all and given the subject matter, I'd even suspect like bots. Which really sucks because I liked a lot of what this channel was.
6 likes@Day His views aren’t actually that high considering his sub count. Respectable, but not earth shattering.
1 like@TrumpetWizard I haven't digged deep enough to see that. Thanks for the tip, it makes this investment even more dishonest.
2 likesI absolutely disagree that Hollywood is old and inefficient. I understand you want to make feature-length content 100% digitally, but films and content are different things. Keep up the good work, you’re doing great this way.
15 likesPeople looking for ROI info
16 likesThey are selling 250k shares (if I recall correctly)
They offer 23 shares for 100$
If those 250k shares are 20% (you can go to their site to see the details)
Then if they made 100,000$ in profit. You would get 1.84$ of the 20,000$ profit shared. It would take you over 50 years to break even.
If they make 1 million at the same 20% cut, it would take less take 6 years.
So after you verify the numbers for yourself, you have to ask:
1)what is their annual profit?
2)what portion of that will get reinvested and what portion will get distributed
3) how long do most content creation groups last?
4) is there a bigger fish that would eat most of the profit in the pond?
Unless you can find their revenue information somewhere reliable including which portion is free profit. Then I wouldn't consider it an investment. Falls more in line with a gamble or a donation. Neither of which would you have a reasonable expectation to get something in the long run.
Do your own research.
Confirm the numbers
Math it out
Make up your mind.
Going by 5:52 score (music) and location mentioned on screen, i’d like to commend the disrupt team on their political views, while at the same time keeping your show non political, as it’s supposed to be. Good shit.
1 likeTL;DR Disrupt wants you to buy a share in the channel otherwise the channel can´t continue to make high quality content and the channel won´t grow. What´s not disclosed in the video is that the lion share (460 000 out of 500 000 dollars asked for) is going to pay of a debt.
8 likesI´m sure you could have raised the amount of money to pay off the debt without misleading your audience.
The "equity crowdfund" sum of 500 000 dollars are not going to be used for making more content and higher quality dito, the money is not needed because "entertainment industry is riddled with inefficiency"; ergo costly. You know how i know this? Let me explain by summarizing the review about Disrupts financials year 20-21: This channel was co-founded by two members let´s call them J1 and J2, they both owned 50 percent each of the channel.
Last year J1 decided, for reasons not known, to buy J2´s share for the sum of, wait for it, 500 000 dollars. Since Disrupt Corp. doesn't have 500 000 dollars laying around J1 instead struck a deal with J2 and agreed upon a quarterly payment of 29 000 dollars for a five year period when the principal sum shall be paid in full. In the financial review it stipulates, and this is the important part, that J1 has agreed to equity crowdfund 10 percent of Disrupt corp. to pay the remaining member buyout in full. That means that the remaining payment to J2 (460 000 dollars) will be paid with the 500 000 dollars J1 want you to "invest" in the Disrupt channel.
The amount Disrupt need to pay in lost credibility is not mentioned in the review, but If I could speculate it will have a longer payback period than five years.
I used to love his content and watched all his videos because they were interesting, the high editing quality made them even more enjoyable to watch. Though that probably is one of the reasons this happened.
0 likesMy first 2 thoughts was either he got hacked, or he has become so desperate to get money he considers scamming or some other deceptive way to get money
I quickly realized it is the latter
It saddens me to see people I respect abandon their morals for money
Hm. Partner disputes magically make a company worth multiple times its fair market price? Keep in mind he is giving himself a valuation of roughly $7/subscriber. Even without the defaulted debt, that’s a little steep don’t you think? For about 2 seconds I was intrigued till I saw all of this in the financials. I do greatly enjoy your content though and perhaps a more reasonable valuation or much larger % share allocation would be more realistic Giving away 10% of your studio can hardly be called decentralizing. Would you feel like a company you worked for was decentralized if your boss held 90% of the power? It becomes optional to care about the other 10%, the game theory just doesn’t line up either.
4 likesNever did I think disrupt would run a scam…
3 likesHe covers scams on this channel and now he’s covering his own.
6 likesSo basically, a YT Channel turned into an "LLC" and valued at 10.7 million, and net profit isn't even 100k+ for the Financial year 2020-2021. If the net profit was 10 million, the valuation would make sense. But you are valuating a "YouTube Channel" by converting it into "LLC Company" and valuing it at 10.7 million USD; meanwhile, if your channel gets 3 strikes and it's deleted forever. That is something you can't control. Your so-called "Business" doesn't even have a guaranteed future. All Disrupt+ Premium sales are through YouTube Fanpage; your "Business" would go Bankrupt the next day whenever third-party "YouTube" wishes.
5 likesAlso, he's selling 10% of his business "YouTube Channel" if we do the math, if he net profits of $100,000 the first year, he "Disrupt LLC" keeps $90,000 and we "investor" keep $10,000, which is then divided into the number of investors according to shares Disrupt LLC is made of "2,500,000 Shares" he owns "2,250,000 Shares", and we own "250,000 Shares" for $10,000 of profit if you own 1 share you get $0.04 profit if you/us own 2 shares $0.08 goes into your/our pocket. Quite the investment! LOL
Not sure if it's a good idea to invest in a "business" that is 100% based on a third-party's "YouTube"' decision; if third-party "YouTube" decides to ban your account, your "Business" for whatever reasons or ban the Gmail account, basically your business went bankrupt? You have no other option but to submit an appeal or make a new YouTube Channel? Also, the Appeal's decision depends on the third-party's "YouTube" decision; you have no control over your own "Business"?? Weird??
Not sure if it will give anyone enough assurance that the business' future is secured, and in case something happens, the only way to revive the company is via an "Appeal", which depends on a third-party's "YouTube" decision where you "Disrupt LLC" has 0 control over it, compared to an actual business which you can restore with few extra money and some use of brain to avoid bankruptcy/insolvency...
Also the fact your “Business” can be hacked if someone hacked your Gmail account basically that’s it, that’s the end of Disrupt LLC?
Good Luck to people investing in this "Business" read carefully; they mentioned, "IF YOU INVEST $100 EXPECT *CENTS* OF PROFIT FOR THE FIRST FEW YEARS". This means you get approximately under 1% or 0.1% ROI for the first few years of your investment.
Seems very Sketchy!
IF YOU ARE INVESTING, THINK OF IT AS A DONATION FOR THE FIRST 5-7 YEARS, "DISRUPT LLC" MIGHT APPLY FOR INSOLVENCY AFTER A FEW YEARS AS IT IS A "LLC" (LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY); THE BUSINESS WON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING YOUR INVESTMENT WILL BE GONE IN TRASH BECAUSE IT'S A LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY. (Please research before investing, its a widespread scam companies/people do)
("10.7 Million Valuation" when you don't even make revenue of 500k USD) LOL!
As a programmer this channel always inspires me to learn new things both in my field and in others. The idea of support being investment based not only helps you reach the funding goal faster and gives back to the investor, but gives the investor greater interest in the success of this project. Really impressive idea. When i can i'll invest. Thank you for all your videos over the years.
0 likesBig yikes. Interested to see your response after this, Disrupt....
7 likesA share of the 'profits' sounds good but it's dependant on costs, which you mainly decide. Ie. you can decide salaries among other things. I want to support but not as an investor (unless shareholders get a say in things/votes).
3 likesI can't be the only one that thinks a 10.7m$ valuation is ridiculous for a channel his size right?
651 likesBias aside it being Disrupt it really doesnt make sense
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Agree. Especially based on the balance sheet they shared on their linked website. Still though, very interesting idea!
44 likesOh yeah it is a total scam, if this was truly a good investment, there are VC funds and private equity that would back this along with other large conglomerate YT channels that do similar investing styles.
63 likesAbsolute laugh out loud absurd valuation. The math just isn’t there
31 likesAnd for that reason, I am out.
27 likes@krzysiula I mean just look at the liabilities, it’s absolutely absurd
6 likes@krzysiula Your valuation is based entirely on feelings and emotions, and not on facts. Look at their balance sheet. Their gross revenue is 200,000 per year. The corporation is $466,000 in debt. With gross monthly earnings of about $16,000 and debts of $9,666 per month, their DTI is 58%. That's horrendous. And keep in mind that is GROSS revenue and not NET. Not to mention the fact that the founder defaulted on a promissory note to his co-founder which literally just opens the door to a lawsuit. If that comes, this company is dead in the water.
28 likesTheir valuation is absurd. The cash flow is tiny, they defaulted on a 450k+ debt that they're repaying with 6% interest. They're being dishonest by omission.
18 likesThat's not even for the whole company. That's for the 25% of it that's going into shares. The whole thing is worth over 40M apparently
3 likesIts sad to see such a fun and amazing youtube channel fall under. I hope you can find another way to source a higher income because this isn't it.
3 likesJak has to make quarterly payments of $29,029.35 or until he pays $500,000 + 2.5% interest, to his previous partner, Jordan Warren, due to Jak buying him out. You will make hardly anything if the channel stays at a constant growth rate for the next 20 years if you invest. Also, the shares you buy in the company are non-voting, so you'll have no say in matters regarding the channel or VR media production. If you even remotely considered investing through the Wefund, please look into the financials. Enough thorough investigation into this will bring you to the same conclusion as me; This "Investment" is to pay off Jak's debt to Jordan. This is scummy and I'm expecting a @Coffeezilla video on this in the future.
2 likesY’all done fucked up and deserve every ounce of fallout that comes from this.
5 likesFor a channel that pumps out well researched and detailed videos you haven't really given us much in terms of behind the counter stats and figures
1 likedo not do this thinking it is a lucrative investment opportunity. if you want to spend money to support the channel, without any intention of seeing a profit, that is fine. but the numbers dont add up to this being any sort of reasonable investment opportunity.
2 likesdisappointed in disrupt for framing it this way. honestly, as an animator myself I really love the content they're showing off. in a traditional crowdfunding model I would be happy to be a drop in the monetary bucket to see more. and the idea of making it an actual investment, even if it is a financially bad one, is great. lifetime access to disrupt+ could easily be worth what you're asking alone, and knowing that if the channel blows up, or its future content is sold to a major streaming platform, you get some monetary compensation for being an early investor is nice. what you get for the money seems worth it to me. but only when you factor in the non-investment perks, from the angle of an investment alone, the valuation is too high, and the risk far too high as well.
I will be indicating my interest. this is, on its own, a convincing video for the one time purchase for a lifetime subscription to disrupt+. and I want to see you succeed. But I would like to see the balance sheet change, your valuation is too high. and I would like to see an updated video which frames this opportunity in a better light. you are all talented people I want to succeed, and this channel has made some great content. I would hate for it to be tainted by a well intentioned but easily misinterpreted video. its a good offer, just not a good investment. you should acknowledge that in the video.
Love the channel and I do see potential for a program like this if the situation was a bit different. It doesn't seem as underhanded as some are claiming because it is disclosed for anyone who takes the time to read through the financials.
0 likesHOWEVER, I think it would be more effective as "I am going to lose my channel and be bankrupt and I need help." In the creator's mind this is a crowdfunding source with potential that the supporters will receive return in the future. I don't think it was clear enough on the surface and full transparency would have been best. I could see large YT channels spreading something like this around and 500k over large audiences is certainly possible. At this point I would pull it and rebrand it as fully transparent. Its embarrassing to ask for help but in this situation I think it would work better as a plea (with some potential for small returns in the future) rather than an investor sales pitch.
Even putting the obvious problems aside, I have no clue from this video or from the channel itself what we'd even be "investing" in. It's a YouTube channel, nothing is particularly unique about it to justify anyone other than the actual creators investing money into it for the purpose of eventual profit. If you're saying we should invest in the metaverse, any talk about investing and profit is so insanely premature.
1 likegranted, if this is legit and clean. I think its a great way for future creators to involve their audiences in a way that hasnt been done before
1 likeYou guys produce AMAZING content. Youtubers do seem to be getting squeezed financially. Creative thinking about this problem is laudable. I'd advise against this particular approach. Even small investors can sue you if you make decisions that may harm their position.
0 likesMaybe the plan will work. Youtubers are already selling their content outside of YouTube for additional income. One of those outlets may be worth exploring.
I feel like the way this business move will play out will be deserving of a Disrupt video about it.
0 likesSad to see this happen. This channel has produced some of my favorite videos. Hope you stay afloat, but it doesn’t look like you’re going down Path A.
1 likeAfter putting the pieces together now, I somewhat see the timeline. I'm assuming Disrupt was always about becoming its own stand-alone streaming platform, which at the time of channel's launching, made sense since everyone and their mother on this platform had one or was putting out sponsored content on one. Disrupt+ launched and unfortunately streaming was oversaturated by then, and turning the free content into a meager drip-feed on here didn't foster into attracting subscribers over yonder. Now that tech is bombing overall, be it streaming or software platforms from Google to Meta performing hiring freezes, layoffs, or underperforming on the stock market, a last ditch effort to square up the bill for a former LLC member was launched, most likely based on the value of his services which I'm assuming were based on whatever speculation was given to Disrupt+ at the time. Now, we're to somehow believe a channel that's already defaulted on a legal obligation and has only grossed $200K last year prior to expenses and liabilities is valued at $10.7M. It's not a scam necessarily, just seems like a once-reputable channel of amazing content trying to pull the wool over its fans' eyes for bad business decisions in the hopes that they effectively donate to shore up for the consequences.
0 likesThis seems like a good donation premise but a Terrible "Investment". Just be wary of that if you are to buy in. Any other channel would straight up look like a scam, as well.
45 likesDisrupt makes amazing content and has incredible potential, but as of right now ain't no way the company values itself at 10,7M$ lmao
1 likeUpload more, engage with your audience, start a Patreon, get sponsors. There are so many things to do that will help your channel with monetization.
1 likei love this channel and its content, i just hope this doesnt go wrong
0 likesI love this channel so much but I've seen others try something similar to this and go down harsh. I will support the channel but not by investing.
2 likesJust looking at the balance sheet, valuation, and financials, this is a terrible investment. Great YouTube channel. Terrible investment.
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Unfortunately, even for the long term I still think it’s a terrible investment..
34 likesYeah I was looking at that to. I would have a hard time wanting to investing in a YouTube channel to begin with because of how quickly things change on here
21 likesInvesting in a YouTube channel, or any social media account at all is literally gambling, but the chances of getting a net positive are even worse.
2 likes@Silverporium There is no chance of a net positive. Jak himself said you wont see returns over a few cents for multiple years.
1 likeHonestly I don't think it's a great channel either his editing are so distracting and unnecessary it makes a lot of content hard to enjoy. I've subscribed for years but only ever finished like 5 of his videos.
0 likesWow, okay. Watched the first minute and thought it sounded interesting, seeing as I'm a huge fan of the channel, then scrolled down. Did not expect to find this!
0 likesEdit: The criticism definitely sounds fair. He seems to be going about this the right right way at least, since he's not accepting any money at this time and just trying to gauge interest. Hopefully we see a follow-up discussing the feedback he's received in the comments!
Quite meta to be laying the groundwork for being the subject of one of your own future videos, 'This guy stole $500,000'.
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A video his former partner will make when he sues them into the ground and regains control of the channel.
8 likesNever thought I’d see a YouTube channel stock listing 😂 it’s both amusing and scary
2 likesAlthough your videos are produced immensely well. There was always something about this channel that left a sour taste in my mouth… and that’s been confirmed with this.
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It’s him himself that’s the issue
0 likesi like the idea of this! it’s cool! even if it were still a slightly longer term investment i would consider it. i am disappointed that there seems to be an over evaluation of the company and that my funds would pay for jak’s mistakes rather than more genuine company expenses like product, staff etc.
0 likesYou guys are one step below opening your own game studios. I hope you guys get the funding you need so Disrupt can thrive as a company. You guys provide some of the best content on YouTube, you rival the more traditional studios with high budgets and larger staffs.
2 likesIt's an interesting idea, but I think it should have been phrased more as a way to support the channel rather than an investment, which I think people would have been happy to do. A donation to the channel wouldn't be a crazy ask, especially for producing content as high quality as this. I do love this channel but I can't imagine it ever getting big enough that you would make any sort of money back on an investment of $100
1 likeOk, this feels sketchy. Really sketchy. The balance sheets don’t exactly look spectacular, the valuation is insane, what’s with the $500k promissory note? All said, thinking about this a little bit in terms of perks, you’re buying lifetime access to the premium content and getting paid some dividends to do so for the price of a bit under 2 years of said premium content. While I don’t see any YouTube channel lasting forever, I would at least hope that a channel calling for investors should last longer than 2 years on the capital invested at the bare minimum. I’ll try out Disrupt+ first and if I think it’s worthwhile I might buy in.
3 likesimagine investing in a youtube channel in an age where youtube is erasing channels without any explanation whatsoever.
4 likesI''m good, thanks.
Look dude I love your channel and I wouldn't mind this as long as you keep making quality content but I do mind you lying and showing little respect for your fans for not saying you're using the money to pay off debt and saying you're using it to improve the content wich is entirely false.i will still keep watching your content but if you don't answer or apologize then people will lose respect of you and your channel including me wich directly affects you and the people you work with
2 likesJesus Christ just give out monthly stickers on a Patreon this is deranged lmao
14 likesI looked at your financials and I can't believe I'm about to say this: Offering an NFT is more morally right than this.
7 likesReconsider starting a Patreon. Or maybe reach out to Nebula and move some of your content there.
As long as your high quality videos don't stop then you can do whatever you wish to do
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https://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
0 likesFinally its here.
Lets be honest we all enjoyed this video by having this:
1 likehttps://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
@Emotional D how about no
10 likesDon't read my name..!!!!!
0 likes@Don't Read My Profile Photo sure thing
8 likes@Don't Read My Profile Photo I can’t read so what now
7 likesCan do whatever he wishes to do even if his content is shit
3 likesFrfr
0 likesRegardless of the quality of the content, the man doesn’t need your approval
1 likeAgreed, their content still has a very high quality standard. It doesn't bother me if it means more good content on the way.
0 likesPlease look into this before you post that. He originally bought half the channel for a 500000 loan and defaulted imideatly. He's pretty much just looking to pay back his friend. Check the balance sheets and ROI
14 likesHe can do whatever he wants but this concept definitely sounds like a scummy scam
7 likesBut if his high quality videos did stop then you would prevent him from doing whatever he wishes to do? 😉
1 likeCan he just sell me his voice instead?
1 like@demon10205 yes
1 like@Sw33t Dropzz fr
1 like@Maddie Morrin I don't think he's investing he's saying he doesn't mid this
0 likesdude, you could've just say that “we have debt. We need to pay it. To be able to continue this channel your donation will be a great help” Instead of scamming people with this investment thing. I'm not really good at business stuffs but people are not that dumb dude.
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this
2 likesAs you have stated you are testing the waters here I will not pass any final judgement. What I will say is that, having read your financial statements myself, as an investment you seem to be greatly overvaluing your company. Additionally, the public seems to know the root cause of this. Your liabilities are almost 550k. Your income is roughly 330k to match that. I am all for donating to the channel. I am all for your trying to ensure your success with your own streaming platform. I am all for opening up donations to request financial support. What I am not for is trying to pretend this is an investment. As a donation with the potential of future rewards, sure. But this us is not an investment.
2 likesWhat has happened is that you are leveraging the good will of your audience in an attempt to correct a very very bad loan, and instead of begging pathetically for donations, you are offering a potential of future gains with it. While i don't appreciate the lying by omission, it is understandable. Your content has earned you the good will to leverage here, and many of us will fork over a few sold crypto currencies or shares to 'invest' in Disrupt. However: good will is a resource like any other and doing this will make it spent. We will still watch Disrupt content but henceforth do not be surprised if people do not trust your business endeavors for a while.
If you are serious about investments, I would recommend getting yourself audited by a third party to be %100 clear and transparent about details we need to know are true.
Can't wait to see how the channel responds to this backlash.
2 likesI hope everything turns out okay. I would hate to see this channel go.
1 likeReally a bad way to go about this. Love the channel and videos but raising money to pay off debt by selling a revenue shares disguised as “equity” is a scam at best. The company can just pay out salaries equal to profits and never show any real revenue and there’s no liquidity to the “equity” on any market so you are stuck waiting to get payed out money in dividends to cover the investment. Please don’t do this “investment” for any other reason than to support the channel. You will not get your money back or any profit.
1 likeApart from the grossly inflated valuation you've just kind of slapped over the whole thing without thought as to where it comes from, you didn't even get the basics right. You are really banking on a select few people loving this channel enough that they pay your loans for you; I mean you didn't even make it an appealing sell. Why wouldn't an investor just give their money to Disney or Coca Cola and get a guaranteed return almost immediately?
7 likesI hope you're able to pay back the 500k you took out to make these videos, because they are seriously fantastic. Don't go and get more loans from more and more shady people. I think we all would've preferred you start a GoFundMe with the expressed purpose of helping pay back your loans. I know lots of would've been willing to help.
The SEC gonna have a field day with this lol
3 likesCrazy concept on YouTube, but I guess no different from the stock market. At the very least, fan buying could be considered sponsorship or a donation. At best, it could be much more. With that said, I would hope it is written into the T's and C's that Disrupt can't just liquidate/declare bankruptcy and/or start new channels that don't net investors profit.
0 likesSounds really cool though as a way to support channels. There were ads, then merch, then lots of crypto/NFT scams, now equity? This could be something ground-breaking, provided it's not a scam of some kind (not that I'm suggesting it is).
Big respect for wherever you take the channel. Been watching for about 2 years and loved every video
1011 likesedit : despite my love for the videos and production quality, this is really sketchy. Needless to say I’m pretty disappointed in the way this was handled. Very misleading. I encourage everyone to read all the details and do your own research
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https://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
1 likeFinally its here YES
Agreed, same here lol
0 likeshttps://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
0 likesFinally its here.
Lmao
0 likesShut up about the finally its here
10 likesDon't read my name..!!!!!
0 likesPlease look into this before you post that. He originally bought half the channel for a 500000 loan and defaulted imideatly. He's pretty much just looking to pay back his friend. Check the balance sheets and ROI
14 likes@Maddie Morrin not planning on investing, just showing my support for the channel
2 likeswhat kind of vr content will you guys be bringing? full experiences interactive or just videos like in the past?
1 likereally like your content. and I'm really ashamed that this popped up in my feed. i wouldn't have minded if you decided to sell merch. or invested with the money you already had from the channel back into making higher quality videos. i would kill to have that type of following and if I did I would be taking my own advice. you can make more and do more with your channel but shadily crowd sourcing to strangers is kind of sad.
0 likesYou make amazing content but this is the worst possible way to source funding for your content. As most of the comments say, you should’ve just opened a patreon
3 likesThe only reason i appreciate this is becouse of all the great youtube docu's that will be made about this
1 likeI don't think I've ever seen a channel do this before. This is REALLY flashy for only selling 10% of the company right now (would've expected about 20%). Shame it probably wouldn't be a good investment from the discussion I saw over the balance sheet.
31 likes"A fool and his money are easily parted"
3 likesthat is all
As their wefunder page says, you are BETTING that they will be worth 10 mil.
5 likesRead the top comments if you want details on what's happening.
If we do ignore the facts about financials of Disrupt, this is essentially artistic stuff that needs investment. They are already using Unreal Engine which suits the name 'disrupt' but it is actually a free tool and it looks great! There doesn't seem to be any real need for extra money for producing content.
1 likeI guess we can compare the business model to Corridor Digital which uses its own website as an extra source of income. They are doing great and I am sure their graphs look like a straight slope going upward left to right. SO, essentially Disrupt can do the same, providing paid content access on their website (which shouldn't cost more than income generated via 2-3 of these videos)
dope stuff man, wont be investing but can't wait to see what will be put out in the future
0 likesFrom the website:
228 likes"I do not expect that you will receive a substantial amount of dividends for quite some time. Disrupt is an early stage startup and should be viewed as a long-term investment, rather than a quick return. As such, if you invest $100 today, do not expect to receive more than a few cents for many years to come."
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That's what I need to see.
36 likesI respect them for admitting that. Anyone who's serious about investing should know that they're basically donating to keep the channel running with a tiny chance of making back some of it.
66 likes@Beep Bop you're exactly right. People here are treating it like the stock market hoping for quick gains.
12 likesDid he admit any of this in the video? No. That’s why he lost my respect for the channel. He’s misleading people that don’t do their homework. I was thinking this might be a cool idea, until I see these comments pointing to the hidden boiler plate about why he needs the money. Not impressed at all. Feel manipulated
42 likes@Stein Lone this issue is if he simply ASKED for donations and was upfront people would be skeptical but do it out of the enjoyment for the channel. Calling it an investment sets certain expectations and not mentioning the key details in the video is misleading at best.
13 likes@DCJ this is sketchy my friends now im not gonna call you dumb for investing in it but I will say I find it apauling yall arent seeing the picture....this is just to pay off his debt that he has and the balance sheets show the "company" is not worth that much and probably wont be.
1 likeWelp, putting something on the public stock exchange is always the end of a product. Was nice knowing this channel for a few months.
0 likesI took a look at the financial records and saw this at the end of the statement. In summary, 500K of the money raised from the equity offer will be used to pay off the defaulted Promissory Note balance to the co founder who was bought out a little while ago.
0 likes"Jak has agreed to equity crowdfund 10% of Disrupt to pay the remaining member buyout in full, expand the operations of Disrupt, and bring high-quality content to new markets. "
"Disrupt has defaulted on a Promissory Note with a prior member of the company and as of May 23rd, 2022 currently owes the Noteholder a Note Balance of $466,179.87 on which interest is accruing at a rate of 2.5% per annum. Disrupt will use $500.00 of the Campaign proceeds to pay off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder’s counsel, and to pay Disrupt’s legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF. "
I love this channel and all, but this seems REALLY sketchy. I don’t think your company can even afford a buy-back, like actual shares. This is kinda shady.
1 likeI will still pay the monthly disrupt membership, but given the comment section and my love for the content and production value, I will have to look into it. I hope for you the best.
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please read the financial documents... you are basically throwing money in a pit by ""investing"".
0 likes@Selection yup, I’m aware. I don’t have a BBA for nothin.
0 likesthis is just to raise capital on a defaulted loan... inflated valuation with uncertain returns (no one stays relevant on youtube forever!) and i think the bad reputation they have taken for this has likely been negotiated into this cost, the returns are on a varying income (ad revenue and people actually using your platform), even if your channel goes down the toilet (by the looks of it it may), you will still have raised the capital to clear any debts...
6 likesI had a feeling before that you were using Unreal for your animations, guess I was right. I plan on getting a Valve Index in the future so I am eager to see what you create, but I'm not sure if I have the money to help invest
0 likesthis makes me sad, hope yall become a bit more transparent in the future instead of hyping up a unreasonable investment strategy to subsidize your legal fees.... love the content and best wishes to you all... but I can't support this decision. looking forward to the next update.
0 likesWe should invest in some weird company that would make living in virtual reality a REAL thing(for fun)
0 likesThis is a scam. From what I read in the comments, you’re just asking for 10M cause you’re in debt. Just stream on Twitch or start a go fund me. Anything other than this. This entire ad gave me a Cryptoland vibe
4 likesIf he visualised this stuff and talked in more detail, like the details of path A, I think I'd be convinced. I think it'll be another scam attempt.
0 likesThis would be a disaster. RIP disrupt, I at least hope the old videos will stay along with the channel
1 likeThis channel makes fantastic content, but calling helping bailing out on a partial buyout an investment on future supposed value is...sketchy at best. Re-evaluate dude.
1 likeBuying shares that check out annually is pretty risky considering it's a YouTube channel that may be going down hill.
2 likesWhile I think this video is extrremely deceiving of what the money will directly be used for, I think we should also take into account that they are trying to continue producing content for their entertainment ecosystem, and as long as they are in a +466k$ debt that is extremely complicated, especially with a profit margin so small that comes with creating a video/audio entertainment lybrary of content, so, while I wouldn't personally give money to this as an invetment, I would rather prefer a video explaining the situation and asking for direct support in form of donations since that would feel more transparent and I would be more comfortable donating 20$ for small perks rather than being sold the idea of this as an investment with the intent to generate you money when realistically you will never recover said investment, especially with the absurd unrealistic valuation of the company and minimun paywall of 100$ which to somepne like myself represents a substantial amount of money.
0 likesAt the bottom of the financial disclosure, it mentions an existing default on a promissory note of roughly $500K, and a statement that you intend on using up to $500K from this investment to pay off that debt, as well as the note-holder’s legal fees.
171 likesConsidering your relative financial standing, I think investment is an incredibly risky venture at this point. A venture capital investment firm would expect a tighter valuation and larger equity stake, which is I assume why you’re crowdfunding the investment. It seems like you’re hoping the masses don’t look into your financial statements…
You should recover with the things that made you be in the state you are now, not make a decision you don't know if it's worth it. Just don't play with people's money and stay transparent, because thats where all the respect we have for you is going
0 likesThis feels like an investment scam, I don't trust in this at all. There are better ways to make money and more content than just investors.
2 likesWhy not just create a Patreon? That way, people support your future endeavours, and they own no portion of your YouTube channel which allows you to make whatever content you want, isn't that what YouTube is all about anyways?
2 likesI'd like to invest as the work is good and that's a great idea however I'd just expect Holywood to offer the team silly money once their skills are up to scratch and they'll simply leave. You won't be able to match the money.
0 likesSo many of my favourite channels are turning out to just be scams (not that this is one), i’d say go for this if you want, but this is likely going to be used to pay off debt.
0 likesI love your channel and wish you the best but I'm sorry I'm scared to invest anymore after hearing so many scams these days.
1 likeDefinitely a shame to see one of your favorite channels try to blatantly mislead people into giving up their own hard-earned money to pay off personal debts.
1 likeI did not see this as an investment opportunities but a way to help out </disrupt> if that means invest on a highly speculative asset so be it. Hope that they succeed as I love the content. But please do your research and never invest more than your willing to loose as that is the main thing you always need to be aware of.
0 likesI've loved this channel and everything it's put out for years, but this just screams scam.
93 likesThe content is incredible, but niche. The valuation is in Thanos territory. I'm shocked and disappointed by this tact. ROI is virtually zero. There were other more conducive ways to appeal for more capital.
2 likesIgnore the investment. This looks kinda sick. Nice animations and stuff. This channel could get huge if things works out.
0 likesShame, I did not expect this from one of the greatest channels on youtube, I'm pretty sure this is the death of your channel, a lot of people will unsubscribe.
3 likesthis man is making a legit tv show with shares out of the blue 🤝
1 likeWell it was neat while it lasted. RIP Disrupt.
4 likesHey, We love your channel. But most of the viewers don't like the idea of investment. Instead of that, make a proposal for Patreon, it will be beneficial.
0 likes* Thank you for making awesome videos.
Looking over your general presence in social media beyond YouTube, its extremely negligible and cannot support something like this when eventually YouTube decides it does not support systems like this (If it does not already). This is a bubble at best, and something that will take your credit/bank info at the worst.
1 like"I’m a fan of disrupt, however this is a terrible investment and he’s misleading viewers by not disclosing the fact that he’s using the majority of this money to pay off bad debt, NOT to improve “production” or make “films”
1 likeThe only way you’d find that is buried in the last page of the financial disclosure document where you can discover that Jak has defaulted on a $500K buyout from his partner, In exchange for 50% of the channel. However he was unable to pay this full amount. So now he’s trying to raise $500,000 in exchange for !!!10% of the channel!!?
This is completely absurd, and that’s not even mentioning the insane valuation of $10 million which is 100X their net profit which as a YouTube channel owner of similar size I can tell you is NOT fair value.
I’ve personally reached out to disrupt in hopes of clearing this up and finding out if there’s more to the story, but for now Id just like to warn people to get all the facts before they “invest”.
As I said at the start of this, I’m a fan of their channel and hope that they can find some less shady way of raising money, and I wish them all the success, but misleading fans is NOT the way forward." - Coffeezilla
Never thought I'd see youtube channels being "investments" with actual shares. I can't do it. I don't even need to see charts to know that this is a bad idea. Good luck though
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Glad to see someone else can see this plane crush from a mile away too
11 likesJust buy the minimum
2 likesIts like donating
This video is the reason the dislike count is important, to warn people about this being a scam
2 likeslowkey gonna be expecting either an apology vid or "this was an Harvard experiment tee hee UwU"
7 likesif you are on the virge of having to restructure your entire operation, then it does not seem like a problem you can fix by throwing more money at it.
2 likesRestructuring kinda sounds like bankruptcy
4 likesEven knowing very little about stocks I can tell you the way you worded this is fuckin’ sketchy.
1 likeNot everybody is gonna understand that you’re selling 10% to be divided amongst everybody that “invests” with you. With your audience + the $500,000 debt you conveniently forgot to mention here that $100 isn’t seeing any return for a long time.
You’re lucky your content is great because this is enough to get most channels banished to the shadow realm.
May want to consider taking this down before it does more damage to your channel's image. Remember when Netflix tried to release Qwikster? People and companies recover from bad moves all the time, but you have to realize you made a mistake and do a 180. Good content, bad move.
3 likesI can see the vision in investing into this company but the main thing is the amount of risk involved with this investment. And that's why I'm out.
1 likeMake a patreon. The content produced by this channel is absolutely superb, but I don't think this is the way to go about this.
0 likeswefunder has terrible BBB rating that stopped me from funding(but coming back to read other people's comments regarding the financials definitely stopped me from thinking about funding
24 likesAfter reading the comments, I think Disrupt first needs to
0 likes1. Give proof of what the money is for, no bad ties inside.
And second,
2. Disrupt doesn't screw over the buyers that spent money, it's bad giving money to the poor but that poor person buys it for alcohol
i dont know much about all this trading and investing shite but from what ive gathered from other commenters, this is completely ridiculous. ive been a fan of this channel for as long as i can remember it existing and i seem to have lost a good amount of respect. disrupt is so much better than this :(
2 likesThis video currently has 32,000 views but 120,000$ ”invested”. Is it just me, or is that 120k ”invested” from 30,000 people absolutly unreasonable? It rather seems like they had people invest im this ahead of time, to make it seem more realiable than it is
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Something feels off about the numbers, the views are currently 130k and the donations are at 160, meaning that even though the views increased by 4 times the money has gone up by a third. Everything about this feels sketchy. Love the channel, and sucks that it will forever be scarred by whatever the hell this is
1 likeThose figures are COMPLETELY FAKE! He has been planning this scam on Discord for quite some time. I've seen him doing it.
0 likes@Jason Jones in what way. I’m curious do you have screenshots or something like that?
2 likesI’m now just waiting for the apology video, and post on social media, for what is akin to buying a box of air on eBay. You definitely got “something” for your money, so it wasn’t an outright scam, but did you really get “something”????????
2 likesSelling 10% of the Channel then shows 20% less than a minute later, no equity value posted, pulls a 10 million studio evaluation from who knows where…..dude just call it a crowd fund no one is making money here. That’s predatory and you will lose your channel if you continue this.
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It is a $1 = 0.00004% equity stake
4 likesa kickstarter or a patreon would have more sense to make, at least for me,you make great content man
0 likesObviously a bad choice. Don't invest guys. Save your money and do something good for you and your family
2 likesdamn this was really starting to be one of my favorite channels too...
0 likesI really love this channel but funding it in this way seems like a guaranteed loss of investors money. Id recommend patreon or even the YouTube membership program to help ur channel and ur debt. Just a thought🫡
0 likesAs many others have already said, doesn't look like a good investment. It probably would have been wiser to try raising money through Patreon and other conventional means other big channels use.
0 likesI mean, the channel's content is good, not denial of that (even I'm considering the subscription to d+), but by checking the info and there seems to be something misty here, including the debt of the founders and the honesty to say "do not expect more than a few cents in the next years". However, why not going or looking also to another possible schemes? Like Patreon, live content, the merchandise, maybe following another schemes (I'm thinking in Kurzgesagt example, but I'm not sure if this is a possible path). Also, $100 during these times, it seems to be a big money quantity.
0 likesI absolutely love your content!
1 likeat first i thought that was a joke but then i started to read the comments.. personally i find this as a horrible idea 🙁 i’ve been watching your channel for two-three years
0 likesSeems like you’ll get about $2/year back on your $100 investment unless the channel sees exponential growth year over year. That’s the 10% of $130k net from this year, spread out among 5,000 investors (i.e. $100 per investor to reach $500k funding goal).
1 likeEven after paying off the debt (which saves around $100k per year from the quarterly payments), you’d only get $4 if that went straight back to profit.
30k subs past month, means 25% growth this year. So, best case it looks like ~$5 per year per investor if those new subs translate directly and linearly to same net profit.
I’m no financial person though, so someone feel free to correct me. Love this channel, but send that $100 as a gift, not an investment.
I miss when your videos were about gaming. It's a shame that it's literally come to scamming your fans to make good on a debt that is not our responsibility.
1 likeDisrupt, I love your videos, but I'm sad to see you go down this rabbit hole of disaster. I believe you are making a huge mistake by not telling the whole truth to us in a video trying to convince us to invest in your studio. The lovely folks down in the comments and I know you will use the money you earn from this glorified scam to pay off your debt from when you bought the channel, so please stop trying to mask this and tell us the truth. You also didn't release crucial information that a sane investor would like to know before investing, such as how much money you earn per month. Please, change something or cut the crap. It's truly heartbreaking to see my favorite channel turn to scamming to pay off a debt. Have a good day/night.
1 likeNow this, this feels like a social experiment
0 likesAs much as I enjoy this channel, this feels like a scam and would be something terrible to invest in.
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Yup it's a scam Jak needs to pay of his 500 000 loan
0 likesI feel like you should just have made this a dono. None of this adds up at all, even discounting ROI. No real quality perks. Seems like a shady way of getting money to pay off a debt. When you have a fan base that would deliver if you just asked outright. Still gonna watch still gonna be here. But this move made me lose a lot of respect.
2 likesBetting that the channel will be worth $10.7Mil one day? No chance it gets even close bro...
5 likesFrom the sounds of it, you're gonna have to sell a lot more than 10%.
0 likes100$ might be too high of a barrier to entry, especially when you consider the viewer base of disrupt TV maybe 25$ or something and just have the $ pay out once a year or something
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You want even make your money back in a decade
13 likesDon't worry a lot of people are already losing their money to pay the crazy $500k liabilities. Already $120k!
9 likes@HyperMario thats the main reason im not buying, the financials are wack to me
1 like@I'll punch you In the face yeah but angel investing is meant to take 5-10 years to make back. also regardless how of much you invest it will take the same amount of time
1 likeFor a channel that makes videos about hackers/scammers, this is incredibly ironic.
0 likesI always thought this guy made these videos all by himself and was impressed. Turns out he’s in debt and has drained peoples money…. this has put me off his channel and “investment” ideas.
1 likeThis is one of the first videos I have ever disliked. I love your content Jak, but this is such a horrible idea. Asking for donations and being clear about why (if its legal) would have been such a better way to go. Instead, you say that selling a portion of disrupt will help fund shows, film, and other content. While your terms say that it will be used to pay off a 500k debt with your previous business partner. I would be more than willing to help by donation with clear reasoning, but im not invented in a 10-40 million evaluated YouTube channel with no way to actually get my investment back through profits, not to mention that the valuation seems SUPER bloated and unrealistic. You could have asked for donations to pay off debts with a share of the channel in return as a "thank you", but instead this share program is used under the guise of content. I dont think its done out of complete negligence; paying of debts and such would allow more time, energy, and money to be sent to the content, but dammit just say that instead of hiding the debts and reasoning why you're doing this.
0 likesA follow up video to address these concerns we all have would be GREAT. I hope that happens and you don't just say "its the haters trying to bring us down".
I can't wait to see more content from you, but I won't be investing. I will donate with nothing in return if that ever becomes an option, but not until there is some more transparency.
shame on you for not mentioning: DISRUPT HAS DEFAULTED ON A PROMISSORY NOTE WITH A PRIOR MEMBER OF THE COMPANY AND AS OF MAY 23, 2022 CURRENTLY OWES THE NOTEHOLDER A NOTE BALANCE OF $466,179.87 ON WHICH INTERST IS ACCURING AT A RATE OF 2.5% PER ANNUM. DISRUPT WILL USE APPROXIMATELY $500,000 OF THE CAMPAIGN PROCEEDS TO PAY OFF THE NOTE BALANCE, TO PAY LEGAL FEES TO THE NOTEHOLDER'S COUNSEL, AND TO PAY DISRUPT'S LEGAL AND REGULATORY FEES IN COMPLICANCE WITH REG CF.
3 likesApparently, from the comment section, Disrupt is struggling with debt. Although money management could have been an issue the bottom line is that no banks are willing to loan him any additional cash. Even if the best bank were a fan of Disrupt's videos it is just not happening. So, in efforts to repay the debt with high interest rates quickly, this "shareholder" business model was put into place.
4 likesIt looks like the overall response is negative because of the lack of information and misleading advertising but this is no different than asking for donations to so that he could continue making videos.
Youtube puts measures in place so that creators do not fall into situations like this, but it was not substantial enough for Disrupt's situation. Donations are not as widely granted when compared to other platforms, so that might have been incentive for the creator to reword in correlation to his predicament.
IMO: this type of business structure will have a large effect on Youtube if other creators copy Disrupt's footsteps. Disrupt's evaluations are higher than reality to entice investors, which might be the reason they got into this situation in the first place.
If you are a half a million in debt,how could anyone expect to make a profit? You might be able to make the twenty nine thousand quarterly payments if you're lucky,but that means most likely any investor would not see any return for five years or more if everything goes perfectly. You would have to increase your subs to about five million or more and average around 3 million views every video at te very least. Youtube is too sketch,the censorship,banning and removing channels. Little risky now days. I wish you the best though.
2 likesPeople need to understand There's some things that need to be done some you agree with some you won't
0 likes$10.7 M valuation for a channel your size? No way in hell.
1 likehonestly you should’ve made this as a notification for potential private investors instead of making it public.
1 likeI love disrupt, but Shark Tank would have a field day with this one.
1 likeOuch, I hurts to have to unsub and leave a comment of how sketchy and uncomfortable this whole thing makes everyone. Don’t do this to us Disrupt, your too good to go this route!
0 likesSo,the narrator in this video bought half of the account for 500k from the original owner. Now he wants his viewers to pay for 10% FOR THE SAME AMOUNT. Now i may not be qualified to say this,but he still hasnt paid off his debt of 500k even including the yearly salary. This is a scam, dont buy!
2 likesEdit : valuation of 10.7million for a channel that cant pull 500k views at times. Ridiculous.
this channel prolly gonna get termed for violation the tos. So yeah download his videos asap
Idk man, seems like whenever YouTube channels try to expand past a lean business model (1-3 employees) it gets much harder to sustain. If you have 10 employees and a bunch of overhead, you only need a few bad videos to run bankrupt. The whole reason Youtubers can make piles of money is because it doesn't require tons of capital investment and it's hard to loose money. Just look at the trajectories of Pewdiepie vs Smosh.
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He’s just shit at making money I think.
0 likes@Fidelio I don't doubt this channel makes good money, but very few channels expand their media production beyond youtube. Most YouTubers invest in their merch line that they can advertise for free, which is their huge advantage. Like Vsauce and their subscription box.
0 likes@wakka chaka Yeah he could make editing courses and all sorts, instead he got into debt and now is asking us for the money but disguising it as some sort of opportunity. The point of youtube is meant to be lower investment, high return if you do it right. he copuld b like cold fusion, instead hes becoming Logan Paul.
0 likesPlease let this be a really poorly executed YouTube ARG
1 likeLove your content, always have and saw the og random videos but the content got so much better, actual comfort show in a way,
1 likeAnyways. Love your content, hate this.
Just sell some classy minimalist merch or some fidget shit or desk ornaments, fits your theme, not an investment opportunity. A youtube channel that is an entire entity based on how people respond, views, subs likes, it's no where near worth that much given the liability attached.
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Unless you eventually got onto TV or streaming services like Netflix, being entirely a YouTube channel is not an investment opportunity
1 likemy man, sell the whole thing if itll be financially good for you
0 likes"Disrupt has defaulted on a Promissory Note with a prior member of the
192 likescompany and as of May 23rd, 2022 currently owes the Noteholder a Note
Balance of $466,179.87 on which interest is accruing at a rate of 2.5% per
annum. Disrupt will use approximately $500,000 of the Campaign proceeds to pay
off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder's counsel, and to
pay Disrupt's legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF."
So you purchased the other half of the company, defaulted on payments, and now you're selling us 20% of the company's net income (not even in shares because it's an LLC)? Bro, whatever money you're going to get is going to be settling this debt. It isn't going to be going into anything new.
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It’s such a scam lol
30 likesProps to you for actually reading the balance sheet. I see a lot of people in the comments section who didn't read it and ACTUALLY INVESTED. Correction: the company is now a registered Georgia Corporation, and no longer a Georgia LLC.
26 likesIts like a donation
2 likes@day deficiency he didn't try to sell it as a donation, but as an investment. It is neither. It is a scam.
20 likes@day deficiency I'm not donating to cure a man's shitty business decision
6 likes“virtual reality"
0 likesThis is just sad, reminds me of the whole Connor Murphy situation. I'll probably remember this channel in a few years and come back to listen to some old videos, but this channel just got hit by a freight train.
3 likes-long time supporter
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Yep I’m out.
0 likesBro I can already hear SunnyV2 scripting a YouTube video for this "The tragic downfall of Disrupt"
6 likesThere's tons of sketchy things going on here as by the info pointed out in the comments. Another thing that should be said is the amount of likes. 40k views with 10k likes is pretty irregular in 2 hours given the previous like to view ratios and how controversial the subject of this video is.
2 likesI'm just going to hide this video from my timeline and pretend it never happened.
2 likesMy thoughts based on a quick analysis of their financial statements:
12 likesThe reason the owner of this corporation (Jak) is crowdfunding is because he defaulted on a Promissory note in which he performed a Leveraged Equity Buyout of his co-founder's share of the company. They originally founded the company and each took 50-50 equity, but then Jak bought out Jordan's 50% share of equity in the company for $500,000 at a rate of 6% per annum.
He made an initial payment of $29,000 and a secondary payment of $20,000 upon which he (likely) realized he doesn't have the money to pay Jordan back and defaulted on the promissory note on May 23, 2022. The financial statements say that $500k of the crowdfunding will be used to pay Jordan back.
Additionally, based on a rough analysis, this corporation isn't doing so hot. Disrupt has assets in the amount of $60,000, but has liabilities totaling $466,199. With gross revenues totaling $200,000 for the 2021 fiscal year, this leaves the corporation with a gross monthly income of about $16,000. It isn't difficult to see why Jak had such trouble making a $29,000 quarterly payment to his co-founder. The money just isn't there when the corporation's debt-to-income ratio is about 58%. Jak took home a $40,000 salary in 2020 and an $80,000 salary in 2021.
It's your call whether or not you want to take a chance with this corporation. Personally, I wouldn't.
EDIT: your accountant spelled "promissory" wrong on page 7 of your 20'-21' financial statements.
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He’s just shit at making money. Too proud of diversify and sell different products.
0 likesThey also (erroneously) state they have no direct competition on their business plan (they call it a “5 year roadmap”).
0 likesVery good analysis. Do you have any idea how legally binding the promissory note is? What is the consequence of defaulting and not ever having any money to pay it back?
0 likes@00FF00 Well, the promissory note is likely to hold up in court, even if the note wasn't backed by collateral. So long as the interest rates on the note aren't outrageous (which they aren't), the note is going to stand. If Jak can't find the $466,000 soon, his ex-co-founder is more than likely going to sue him (especially since there must have been some clause in the note which specified that Jak would cover Jordan's legal fees in the event of a default, since the financial statement says that Jak is covering legal fees). When that happens, Disrupt is going to go down with the ship.
1 like@BumblingDolphin That's also funny. The principal idea that Disrupt wants us to invest in a long-term strategy (and hold our shares for a number of years before we see any real profit) is ridiculous. In the time that they state they want to produce a mini-documentary (2027) this company could be dead. We've all seen massive YouTube channels rise and fall in just a matter of a few years. Will this channel last and continue to grow until 2027? Unlikely.
1 likeI already pay for disrupt plus, if this were just a chance to grow I would be totally on board. Now that I realize it's because Jak didn't want to share and got himself into debt I'm more weary. I already gave the website my card details but it says I'm not even gonna to be charged yet. I'm thinking investing would be a bad move. I already do more than the average viewer and I won't even be saving on disrupt+ subscription for at least like two years. This seems like a no go.
0 likesYeesh. I love your videos man, like damn they are top quality. Been here since those virus ones came out a while back. I won’t stop watching your videos but this shit is not the play. Seems outta pocket to me.
0 likesBruh just make a Patreon like everyone else. Don't need to be all shady like this
3 likesIt sounds cool but I highly doubt that anyone who's responsible with their money would actually invest in this.
0 likesMy problem with shares is that it's a scummy system for the business owners.
0 likesShares should have never been allowed they way that they are. Dividends should be paid against the share, like a loan repayment... Share shouldn't be unlimited free money for investors, but rather a way for investors to help a company they believe in get their feet on the ground.
If additional funding is needed after the first round of shares? Introduce another round of shares to be bought.
I'd love to help this channel, absolutely. But making free money off the back of somebody's hard work beyond my initial investment? Seems scummy of me.
To go further, how much beyond the $500,000 debt repayment is needed to keep the channel going?
if you were honest about your position im sure people would be happy to help financially, but a borderline scam that relies on misleading "investors" is not the way to go and will lose you the respect you earned through your content
0 likesAnd I thought nfts where bad, when YouTubers can just sell part of their channel and give people the illusion they'd make profit
0 likesI would assume this is a decentralized decision. Do not pin the blame on the voice of the channel!
0 likesthe deer comedy bit convinced me this is a weird scam and we don't actually know enough to even make a decision.
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It’s to pay off debt, and that’s all
21 likesIt gave me "Cryptoland" vibes ngl
8 likesYeah no, I'm sorry but no. I'll still watch for the great content but 95% of crowdfunding is a sham/scam and this seems like it as well.
1 likethis is a youtube channel, not some major corporation where you own shares and have stockholders with a board of directors
2 likesAs one of the many that are not qualified to make paragraphs long comments on the idea, I'll just say this:
0 likesI just pray Susan doesn't see this and gets any ideas...
It's interesting, and if sustainable, glad to hear it.
But not a fan of having channels being bought as stock.
Feels very... Dish, very Comcast, very Cox, the type of industry I'm trying to avoid HERE.
My view mainly comes from being an artist and video editor that cherishes their works and loves to see that same self pride in others, so something about having share holders in something as personal as a YouTube channel is a primal-level repulsive idea...
I'm not gonna hit dislike, but just know I feel unsteady with this...
You're too cool for Patreon or something?
1 like"Selling" it like this to me just feels like asking for trouble in the future.
What are the estimated returns? If enough investments come in for path A, will you be ramping up video production?
0 likesThis is sad to see. Sorry things are this bad
3 likesCan anyone who knows a bit about investing / legal shed some light on this offer? Is this type of thing actually legally binding, if so how? I mean, I love this channels videos. They are always entertaining, and this guy has a great voice for the way these videos are presented. But yeah, anyone shed any light on this?
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Legally binding, but it's a very small portion of the company being sold here. If it's not clear - the campaign is a desperate attempt to pay off a $500,000 debt that the creator is in. The details are linked on the campaign page, in their financials document. None of the money is going towards growing the Disrupt brand.
1 likeThe awesome production value and visuals can't hide how ugly this actually is.
1 likeseems to me that someone is in financial trouble...
6 likesI don't care for any of what you said bro, if u make any decent looking videos in future I'll watch them, if not then ok. I've never given any youtuber a single penny in my life and that's never gonna change. I'm sure the sheeple will buy into this though, if u can get just one of them to do it then thousands will follow. Not for me thoughm
1 likeThis was a bad decision. And I feel you all knew it was. You may get some fans to join you but I feel you are going to be losing more people than gaining singular $100s
1 likeDamn man this is terrible. Never would've thought some shady deal would be coming from you. You should've just been honest about the debt and asked for support by donations on Patreon/GoFundMe instead of creating some lucrative "investment" offer. Loved the content but this is a new low..
1 likeGame over, sound like a massive scam. Time to find a new edgy content channel.
3 likesRare (possibly first?) Disrupt L, but damn is it a massive one. Been a longtime fan of the content here and the evidently massive work that goes into making it, but this is a reallly sketchy idea and a little disappointing to see.
1 likeDisrupt has always been 10/10 content, but this move just feels unnecessary, and if every other comment is to be believed, misleading. Just open a patreon or accept donations in some other capacity like every other youtube channel maybe..?
0 likesWelp. we lost a good channel out of greed.
5 likes...Wouldn't it be easier to open up a patreon? This comes over as a scam
2 likesif you wanna cover your fees just sell merch and over priced amounts like everyother you tuber
3 likesYikes
2 likesWhy did you have to do this bro…
You were one of the best channels on YouTube
What a shame.
The face you're making in the thumbnail is the face I'm making after thinking about the numbers for more than 13 seconds
1 likeImma just wait for coffee or muta to pick this apart. Great channel dude, but just start a crowdfunder if you're in debt.
1 likeExcited to see the video of this social experiment a couple of months down the road.
0 likesWhy does this feel like an NFT, Ransomware, and a rug pulling all in one?
0 likesI am sorry to not have any trust in you on this but why do you "have to sell" the channel? Why would everything have to be "restructured" if you dont sell? None of this makes sense or feels right to me. Just start a patreon like a normal person if you want extra money for larger projects. Also the $10.7 million valuation is insane.
Hopefully you all see these comments and take a step back from whatever this
scamis.Great content creator but this makes zero financial sense. The footnotes on the reviewed financial statements are devastating.
3 likesPlease pull this video and rethink your options for getting out of debt.
Be transparent about the situation in your video and start a Patreon.
Or maybe even design and sell collectible NFTs.
But please do not frame this as any kind of reasonable investment.
Never thought I’d see a YouTube channel going public for stock exchanges
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The internet gets wilder and wilder each year, huh?
5 likesthis company isn't going public. there is no SEC involved here. this is just crowdfunding for a portion of micro-equity. Each dollar that you buy in with gets you 0.00004% of equity in the corporation. I didn't make that number up. 20% of equity will go to preferred "stockholders". 20/500,000 is 0.000004%
12 likesJust be honest about your situation and ask for help to continue. $500k is pretty steep, but this investment thing will scare many off.
0 likes"Metaverse" Yup, this is a scam.
2 likesto think I subscribed to Disrupt plus two days ago lmao, I'm cancelling this and I cannoooot support you guys in good faith. talk about misleading your fanbase.
1 likeBarely a minute in… this is a grift… let's keep watching 😑 with caution
1 likeIm sorry but this really feels like a scam and money hungry "if you dont buy some of our channel we will stop!". I like your content but will have to disagree with this...
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The company actually will have to go bankrupt unless they hit the goal. Jak needs the money to pay back debt that he defaulted on, that's the reason for crowdfunding. I expect the channel to stop producing content if he doesn't hit that goal, but tbh I don't know how legally binding promissory note is.
22 likesIt’s better if they go down then for us to give them money. It’s not worth the cost
21 likes@00FF00 yea but this is the wrong way to do it. Instead of making this claim U are “Investing” they could have come out and say they really need support and start a patreon. Have not researched into why he needs money but still seems like the wrong way to do things in my opinion.
8 likes@Zcheffen bought the channel for 500k
1 like@00FF00 I think his partner would take control of the channel then. Afterwards who knows what he would do. Try to get it started with a new creator as he was involved before anyway.
1 likeScamming your audience, truly a great business plan
1 likeThis could’ve been amazing, the beginning of a new type of media, but money is the root of all evil.
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exactly. same with politics, both parties.
0 likesFeel like now more than ever would be a great time to see the dislike count on this to stop people from buying into this.
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Rn it's 16k likes against 5,2k dislikes
0 likesYou should just ask for money for extra support and thank ur viewers to help to boost the channel. Not this way.
1 likeJack, you should talk to your friend whom you owe 500k too and negotiate some extra time so you can hire an expert to help you monetise the channel better and pay him back that way instead of this strange route
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Too late the damage is already done. Just look at the comments. this channel is doomed.
2 likesHe’s right. What will happen is his partner will take control of the channel. If he apologises (which he won’t) he would be fine.
1 likeMan, I'd love to be a concept artist/illustrator for y'all, lol
0 likesdidn't think disrupt would go this low
2 likesPONZI SCHEME
3 likesFirst guy got 50% stake for $500k
Now he wants ‘investors’ to invest $500k, to pay off first investor, in exchange for 10% of the channel…
If channel wasn’t profitable enough to pay off that $500k, how will it be profitable to pay investors back the $500k they invested for a mere 10%? It is literally impossible
While I love the channel, I’m not investing in a channel with a worse balance sheet that Sri Lanka…
1 likeThis is definitely a scam. Lost my respect, unsubscribing.
4 likesProud of your growth. Happy you're being transparent and want us to be able to be part of it.
0 likeslol, it wouldn't be a proper sketchy investment pitch if it didn't mention "The Metaverse". Good job.
1 likeThis has to be some kind of April fools joke
2 likesaslong as we get more high quality distrupt videos im fine with A
0 likesI had a weird sensation while watching the last uploads on this channel as they came out, something had changed.
0 likesI guess my gut feeling was right
if i had the american currency i'd invest.you are passionate about your job and visionary techniques you use make the content so fresh.go for it people.
0 likesChannels 10x larger report an annual net income of roughly 1 million USD. So, every 10 years they would generate roughly the speculative valuation of disrupt.
45 likesThis is part 2 of NFT’s
2 likesEven if there is no bad intentions it will set a bad precedent for the future of other YT channels.
They will sell their own channels and easily make a pyramid scheme or just a bad deal over all.
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So true
0 likesCan’t wait for the hot take vids on this one
2 likes1:17 what would happen to the money invested, would the investors still get a yearly cut or would they be screwed
0 likesGreat content, terrible scam.
3 likesUnsubscribed.
Yeah, idk about this, go for it if you want but this kinda stuff never ends well, like never
9 likeshaha, nice joke man. really got me laughing all the way to the bank to be used and abused!
0 likesDisrupt throws a glitter bomb at its audience and they respond with shaped charges pointed directly at the financials.
2 likesLeaving unreasonable valuation aside, i could not even buy the business plan. Too far fetched to realise profits.
0 likesi love the channel but .. this all just seems to have become quite crazy ..
0 likesThe first half of this video has been the epitome of “never let ‘‘em know your next move”
34 likesI hate that I’m about to watch my favorite channel die
4 likesReading through the comments there is definitely a lot of detailed and reliable critique, but I would like to add a bit to constructive part of it all.
0 likesI am not an experienced investor and I do not posses any detailed knowledge about the behind-the-scenes of this channel. I am entirely basing this comment on this video, it's comment section and some information on the wefunder page. I am also gonna go with the assumption that this is not a scam, as other comments suggest, but rather a misguided attempt to promote an interesting idea of a fundrising campaign.
The issue is, I think, that this video is not a fundrising announcement, but a sales pitch. And the issue with sales pitches is that they do not ask for help out of a sticky situation, but instead omit details that may dissuade you from buying/investing, unless you investigate deeper. This is exactly what makes many sceptical, as many have pointed out that the investments would not go towards growth directly, but settling a debt caused by buying out the co-founder of the channel for a bit less that 500.000$.
I think in general this is a great idea. People do not only get to support a creator they like, but also potentially gain from it. However, again, the issue being, that that is not the angle this video represents. Instead, it presents like, what many here have compared it to, an investment scam. I think this promotion was a misstep.
The attempt was to attract both people that seek to give support Disrupt, but also people that look for an investment opportunity. This backfired, as many here pointed out that any experienced investor would be immediately deterred by the red flags of a huge debt, unpromising finances, and a gross overestimation of company value. This also makes it seem like it aims for UNexperienced investors that do not recognize these red flags.
I also think that the 100$ minimum is not a great idea, since it dissuades the probably many people that are willing to donate, but just not that much.
Obviously this wasn't actually unsuccessful as almost 140.000$ have already been raised at the time I write this, many donators stating that they did so uncaring for profit and just wanting to help, but as the comments suggest, many have lost trust and respect for the channel. I personally will remain open-minded, but I would suggest an honest response to the criticism raised, and an approach from a different angle. This angle should focus on honesty and transparency, and portrait this campaign not as a 'great investment opportunity', but instead a 'fundraiser with benefits'
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If anyone actually ended up reading this slurry of text that I spent way too much time on, feel free to critque my points, aswell as point out any mistakes I made or things I left out so I can try to fix it.
Honestly it does sorta look like a bit of a donation though the lifetime access to Disrupt plus is like 2 years worth of it so maybe if you want lifetime disrupt then just buy this idk
0 likesSadly 140,000 dollars have already been “invested”
1 likeWhile my viewership won’t be gone (yet)
0 likesI do think it’s actually very sketchy to invest, without more information..
And according to coffeezilla (thank you)
He’s using it to pay off bad debt, and not to improve production “quality”
Whoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
2 likesIn the off chance you see my comment before you invest, please for the love of god read others comments. They say it better than I can, the company has defaulted and your investment is paying off their debts. It’s a horrible idea and you’re chances of seeing a return are slim to none. Disrupt would have to grow to the size of Disney for your $100 investment to have any real value. You’re getting a minuscule fraction of equity, which means your return is a minuscule fraction.
0 likesHaha how is this guy trying to scam us openly like this?
2 likesThis would seem like a much more solid investment if the video views didn’t fluctuate (100k-1mill) as much as they currently do for your channel.
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Even if his channel made $10.000 each video with 24 videos a year. You still wouldn’t see a return on your invest for many years, and that’s if the channel stays at that pace.
5 likesHis content are over-edited and for me hard to enjoy, been subscribed for years because I like the premise but I don't recall ever finishing more than 5 videos. Judging by the views I can't be the only one here.
0 likes@Jake Wolf I don’t doubt it. Sometimes he definitely struggles to get to the point quick enough to keep I’m sure some people engaged enough to sit the entire thing out.
0 likesSmile guys. We're in the "REACT World" that videoessays will be made about.
1 likesell merch, get a deal with Netflix or Hulu or something, don't do this.
1 likeThis has to be some kind of a social experiment.
0 likesWell, yall made amazing videos and it was fun while it lasted but I can't support such an obvious money grab as this one. Good luck, unsubscribing (not like anyone cares)
0 likesI don't know if I fully trust this decision but as long as the content stays the same or gets better I'll still be watching.
17 likesReally held up to the theme of Disrupt here, Jak… bad move brother. Not the type of Disruption we want.
1 likeTwo paths diverged in the woods. And I... I took the wrong one.
4 likesHoly fuck they are REALLY trying to pass this off as a legitimate investment opportunity 😳
0 likesSo, according to your website, if you have the same income as you currently do, it will take 200 years to make my money back?
2 likesThats absolutly outragious
You could replace some of the 3d modeling with an open source community of creators submitting 3d shorts based on what you need. As long as those creators are given credit I think you could save money and prop up other digital artists at the same time. I don't know much about funding a channel like this but open source creation is a solid way to go.
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Also can we just have like Elon Musk fund this channel lol.
0 likesThis sounds like a scam "get a portion.." heard this millions of times before.
0 likesI really hope this is just a temporary lapse of judgement. Your content is great but this doesn't feel right.
0 likesI expected better from Disrupt.
4 likesOkay, so my take on it that really the only way there is a need to have the debt paid by investments and not just normal donations is by some bizarre legal obligation. That or there never was a channel buyout and this is just some scummy way to earn 500k
0 likesI almost had a heart attack when I saw the video title, thought you where suddenly leaving ahah
0 likesEvery single aspect about this seems entirely untrustworthy to me.
0 likesI have one question, If I Invest in this channel and the "Path A" is not completed and the Disrupt company goes to "Path B" I get my money back or you guys keep the money?
1 likeOn the surface I can fw this idea, but as coffeezilla stated, this is incredibly misleading and just to pay off debt.
0 likesYikes...This raises too many questions...Nope. Not going to fall for this one. Even as a huge fan of the channel. This is really sketchy. And this is going to cause a pretty bad fallout once word spreads and other channels get ahold of this and start exposing the channel as trying to manipulate and scam subscribers into paying for someone else's debt with a questionable service. I can already see a SunnyV2 video in the future. This is not good.
1 likedisrupt as a fan,im dissapointed
1 likewhy do you think patreon exists?
why its so popular?
its a website where you and your team can provide fixed and certain videos.
there is no way this is a good idea,
the income from the following:-
disrupt tv & disrupt +
is not at all fixed,
its basically gambling
also there is not adequate information why you're doing this
this misleading.
patreon is where you can give consistent rewards for "investors"
I'm dissapointed.
Why are the most talented people always the worst with management and financial handling ?
4 likesThis whole plan is unrealistic. You could have just asked for donations for a smaller scale project instead of this half-scam with crazy projections
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So true
0 likesYep
0 likes"A crowd funding campaign" instantly looked like star citizen lmao
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Difference is, Star Citizen isn't a scam.
0 likesI’d be willing to invest a decent sum if there was an in-depth video on financials (bad & good, just honest), timeline, goals, etc towards a valuation… Sorry, need more details beforehand.
1 like"Disrupt has defaulted on a Promissory Note with a prior member of the company and as of May 23rd, 2022 currently owes the Noteholder a Note Balance of $466,179.87 on which interest is accruing at a rate of 2.5% per annum. Disrupt will use approximately $500,000 of the Campaign proceeds to pay off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder's counsel, and to pay Disrupt's legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF."
0 likesI can't really say anything that hasn't already been said by others. Good luck nonetheless.
0 likesWell well well.. There is not too much to look for as an investor.
20 likesIf I'm buying the company, I should at least know very clearly how much profit it turns today and the revenue. Probably the profit is near zero today, but including realistic plans on growth and targets for next quarters is not an option for a serious offer. This is for no more than 10% of the company, the campaign has no upper limit so basically we are buying an ever shrinking part of only 10% of unknown dividends off pure hype. I'm not gonna lie, this sounds terrible and even arrogant/insulting to present that as an investment to an audience of fans! Feels like gauging whether you can get away with selling a corp desperate with funding with no numbers, all the good information kept for yourself.
PS: Actually you do present the numbers, there is simply no marketing material about it. I read through the financials and I doubt much people are gonna look into this. This video lacks transparency and is misleading. This is not good. You need half a million to pay back the liabilities occurred by you taking full ownership of the company a year ago. This is the target in the campaign which has no mention of any of this. Current cashflow is apparently unable to cover the full amount because the company is defaulting and now you are throwing 10% of the company away to people to get over this. I don't know what's going on, current profit (for 2021) should be enough to pay the $30k each quarter (not taking the growth of the channel into account which makes the deal fair enough). This indicates either some grave loss of market share or mismanagement since the restructuring. Given these elements I strongly doubt the crowdfunding is about getting a lot of leverage now to invest into an untapped market which is what this offer suggests. Or are you in FOMO about the Metaverse and find the liability inconvenient for taking advantage of it? The lack of clarity on this situation is concerning, and getting back to this video, this is downright shady.
If this is the case, I truly hope you’re putting out The same quality videos at faster more often rate. For both investors and viewers.
6 likesYeah no, you could've just made a 500k go fund me instead of trying to scam young investors into giving you money to pay off a debt. Stunts like this is how to lose money and trust not make anything
1 likeI really like this channel I hope path A works.
0 likesJudging by the comments section you shoulda kept this one in the vault big fella.
1 likeinteresting that the funding goal is almost exactly the debt he owes to another company. bro gon lose a lot of viewers over this. might have to update those wefund stats on viewership/subs
1 likeI believe in this channel and will diversify my stock portfolio by supplementing it with some Disrupt shares. I hope this channel grows more than I hope that I keep a small portion of my investments.
0 likesI would sooner give you $100 to invest in something that has assurances roflmao
4 likesi hope that by the time i get the money i can join this great idea
0 likesVery good video's, but this is just a scam even if disrupt gets 2.2mil views monthly that he claims to get, (its closer to 750k monthly (in the past 6 months)) it would give you about $20 yearly and thats only when he gets 2.2mil views a year, but actually you wil get $7 a year. (this calculation was done fast, and should not be taken as financial advise)
0 likesedit: if you buy 23 stocks that is
According to Social Blade, this channel only makes an estimated 5,600-90,000 dollars per year.
0 likesThis feels like a scam what if my man decides to vanish off the face of the world then he’s 500,00 dollars richer and you lose 100$ for what
2 likesbased on the information i found, this company made 27k last year.
2 likesThis sounds really sketchy and is either gonna change the channel fundamentally or is just gonna scam people
1 likeHave you thought about curiosity stream/nebula. Merch is also an option. There are tons of ways to turn a profit. Patrons, hell a satire attempt at an onlyfans could get some bucks in. At the end of the day though I'm not a super highly skilled business and market analysis, I just hope the quality of the content doesn't drop.
1 likeWait why don't you just make a Patreon lol
5 likesI think they didnt consult any financial professionals about this. Jak and his team just come up with this idea and miss the thought about the risk for their investor. I hope they will go to the right path. Because this is really sketchy.
0 likesinterested to see how this will turn out for you guys but I won’t be investing because it seems a little weird to me along with a lot of people in the comments, sorry.
0 likesStart streaming on twitch to make more money bro. Why not get a Patreon to help and make better content? You offer this money to people in equity but why? Why not just do Patreon?
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There is so many ways he could monetise seems a bit drastic doing this.
28 likes@Fidelio He needs a lot of money QUICK to satisfy his lenders.
21 likes@Allblaster Yeah it’s for his ex partner apparently.
16 likeshe already has patreon too
9 likes@Lian Paez Plus merch
4 likesDONT DO IT MAN
2 likesYou could’ve just explained your situation and asked for donations
0 likesSo you bought 50% of the company for 500k, but expect us to pay 100$ at a valuation of 10.7 $? (As stated on the website)
0 likesIm sorry to say it, but you just lost all respect I had for you
i panicked when i saw it, until you said 10%
0 likesdont leave pls
At the bottom of the financial disclosure, it mentions an existing default on a promissory note of roughly $500K, and a statement that you intend on using up to $500K from this investment to pay off that debt, as well as the note-holder’s legal fees.
4 likesConsidering your relative financial standing, I think investment is an incredibly risky venture at this point. A venture capital investment firm would expect a tighter valuation and larger equity stake, which is I assume why you’re crowdfunding the investment. It seems like you’re hoping the masses don’t look into your financial statements…
Plot twist: everyones saying bad things in order to get themselves a bigger share of the channel
1 likeThis is more of a donation then an invesment tho
1 likeI hope anyone thinking about investing in this channel will donate that money to charity instead. I’m sorry, I really do like this channel, and the people behind it are super talented, but this is really disappointing.
0 likesWho’s to say they won’t abandon this channel after they get the money? And even if they keep uploading for years, youtube money isn’t that good. Investors will be making so little. Like a few cents a year little. I’m sorry but I can’t respect it. Good luck though I guess.
The money we invest doesn't go to disrupt to help make better content but to pay off a loan which was defaulted.
1 likeBro wtf I'm kinda disappointed
1 likeA channel who has posted videos on financial scams tries to scam it's viewers?
This is extremely intriguing to me…it’s just a glorious mindfuck to me
0 likesIiterally just do a patreon. It works just as well for other people, so why can't it work for this channel?
0 likesPlease please PLEASE DO NOT BUY,disrupt is an amazing channel but with a channel this size it is incredibly unlikely that you will get any profit from buying shares
1 likeAfter reading everything on the website, it sounds like it’s going to be far too much to handle. I don’t see it being sustainable and don’t see how you guys will be making a profit for a very very long time.. I’d love to invest but I have my doubts
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Just to turn your doubts into a clear no, the corporation is currently in 500k debt which was defaulted so really he had to turn to crowdfunding in order to pay the debt (which he got from taking full ownership of the channel) otherwise the channel is probably done for. In the financials it does also seem like he should have had enough money to pay the 30k each quarter for the debt, but instead it was defaulted on. This could also mean that there is a certain level of mismanagement.
11 likesWhy not just ask for a $1 donation to pay off the promissory note?
1 likeEdit: donation(s)
LMAO
This is the first time I have witnessed something like this
0 likesIm offering good feels and prayers for 49%
1 likeBro this is so transparently some kind of scheme. Trying to take the goodwill of a community that loves your content to the degree they do is just plain gross. Disappointed beyond words.
0 likesSorry guys, not the best way to go about paying things off. A straightforward approach would’ve been received better and from an investing standpoint there is no visible payout in the near future unless your content skyrocketed. Another side note is that even with a large following, this is still viewed as a youtube channel by many and needs more time to become recognized as a studio with animators across the globe.
0 likesSadly don't have the $100 now, but I'm starting a new job soon! Hopefully I can still get in on investing later.
0 likeswoah, I thought this was a sketch / parody of weird shady deals, but it's acutally real ._. you should keep it to the entertainment content my dude, this is dogecoin levels of cringe.
4 likesNah man this ain't it, i didn't need to read any further when it was stated that the channel will be valued at 10mil at some point. I wouldn't recommend investing, but to each their own I suppose.
0 likes$9.7m valuation and in 2021 the company had a net income of $132,938. 9,700,000 / 132,938 = 72.96 so to break even you need to be getting 73x the net income you are currently getting.
69 likesYou are valuing each subscriber at $6.83 which in my opinion is very absurd. I wish you the best in your investments. But I'm out. I have no confidence that at the current the valuation there is any possibility for a meaningful return. As you, yourself, mentioned "if you invest $100 today, do not expect to receive more than a few cents for many years to come".
Please do some research before investing. I really think that a re-evaluation needs to be completed.
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And it has already made $13k
1 likeIt's a scam imo.
13 likesread the "financial report". he paid out the other founder and prob needs the money now. why would you do that otherwise?
4 likesHe also lists a $500K defaulted promissory note to his ex-partner that is seems like the money will be used to pay off. This doesn’t seem like an investment, but rather a lifeline. Combine that with the insane valuation and it’s no wonder even vulture capital firms would take a deal like this.
11 likesIt’s a massive scam just to pay off their debt, and investors won’t see their money back for years, and that’s if the channel doesn’t go down hill
5 likesThe corporation also has a DTI of 58%, which is insane. The second that Jak fails to raise $500,000, his ex-co-founder is going to sue him and this channel is going to be dead.
7 likesi would give 100 dollars to go back to the day i discovered your channel.when is the deadline
0 likes"The Downfall of Disrupt"
1 likeLooks like a typical cryptoscam, if we invest for your company to make more projects I feel like we gonna have a watch mojo or Smosh situation
1 likeDisrupt plus gave me a netflix vibe that I unsubscribed just recently, just saying.
2 likesAlbeit, Chief have good intentions, I get it, to be one of pioneer of web3 metaverse. But the execution of this not that convincing, definitely sketchy TBH.
Still a fan of the channel though..
Imagine Elon musk doing a hostile take over
1 likeSounds too good to be true without even doing research on it. I don’t touch.
0 likesWtf is this nonsense??? I’m a giant ass fan of everything you put out brother but this has got to be one of the most sketch things I’ve heard in a minute besides investing in TERRA/LUNA. Please just keep making content and putting out more of it instead of trying to hustle us which is the last thing we need in times like these. Take care of your people and get your shit together mate
1 likeJust make a GoFundMe or something my guy. Tell people you're in debt. I'd rather give you a couple bucks here and there based on the truth, rather than something sketchy
1 likegreat pitch, unfortunately im broke AF so i wish yall the best to succeed
0 likes5 seconds in and my gut tells me somethings fishy so I look to the comments and it looks like my suspicions were correct
2 likesIf you need money start a gofundme not a scam.
3 likesor you could literally just set up a patreon and not deceptively scam us?
1 likeI'll buy it for a penny mate. Can't do more than that I'm afraid.
1 likei really hope this was an experimental prank or some shit. i love your channel dude, but this is not the path u wanna take.
2 likes8M other comments said what they said so I'll just say...YIKES. I don't understand or care about financial investments and reading what I've read I won't participate in this smoke and mirrors scheme. It's a shame really, you could have asked for donations litteraly!! Anyways, I certainly won't stop viewership but I'll not see you and this channel in quite the same light any more... Good luck regardless
0 likesAs long as i don't have to spend 24 hours in minecraft vr.
1 likeDefinitely a net loss in trust and reputation.
0 likesI would highly recommend getting 2 million subs before selling the channel.
1 likewhen you want to invest but your banking app decided not to work 🥲
0 likesI don't even think LTT, a YouTube channel with at least a couple dozen employees who release a video a day making a steady cash flow even have an evaluation of 40 MILLION dollars like what you say your channel is worth. Something seems a bit off eh...
0 likesInvested in your quality channel. Feels good
0 likesBest channel on youtube hands down
0 likesYour content is amazing , but why not just à Patreon ?
0 likesGotta make that profit on that false familiarity built up from constant exposure by your viewers. I see you, playa playa.
3 likesI love this channel I was scared he was gonna stop making videos.
3 likesMust be a new form of the NFT scam.
1 likeNot amazing at math but wouldn't that mean you value your company at 40 million dollars in total? that sounds like complete fucking out of this world insanity I'm sorry
3 likesI was waiting for this video to reveal it's all a giant hoax but nope, seems like it's real...
0 likesI might consider this if VR didn’t make me want to vomit
1 likeIt's very cute that you believe "investors" will be nice little mom and pop watchers of the channel. Big investors are parasites who will throw money hoping for a return. If you need funding ask for donations, or patrons. Don't turn to stock investors.
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100% agree. He jumped from cute donations to plain scam. By the way, no sophisticated investor would ever put a single penny into this. The people are paying.
7 likesJust yikes man I would've taken a long look at my viewer metrics before posting something like this anyone 20+ year old adult can smell the doodoo hiding in your proposal from a mile away I like many other really enjoy the channel but it genuinely seems like you are trying to persuade a younger audience hoping they will play into your false narrative. Honesty is huge man huge just tell people you fucked up don't lie gonna have to unsub for the time being hope you the best
1 like$10,700,000 valuation? Nope.
3 likesOkay, great art etc, it seems very shiny and memey. Yeah, we see lofi girl and matrix guy - very pog etc, but this just screams scammy behaviour my guy. It feels like you're dancing around the point. I'm not involved in crypto or VR, but gut feeling and life lessons from irl business is screaming that this, while perhaps a great idea, seems sus. I love this channel, but this is not the move I think you should go down.
0 likesHey boss. I love your work. It is really good, but I must say this is not the way to get money off of it. Please reconsider before you destroy what you've built hwre
0 likesI mean this in the most respectful way possible: What the absolute fuck!? Surely you can see how mindbogglingly sketchy this comes off as...
1 likeI really like his content but instead of district plus why didn't he just swallow his pride and make a Patreon
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Doesn’t he have one? Or just join nebula?
0 likesYou put it exactly how I was thinking. I've always found it odd that he went that route instead of making a regular Patreon, it's as if he's making it more difficult for himself. On the roadmap it's said that they expect 5,000 Disrupt+ subscribers by 2027, so surely their subscriber numbers must be pretty low right now. I feel like if he had made a Patreon he would've had double the amount of subscribers he has on Disrupt+, if not more. They both do the same thing which is to have financial support alongside a platform to serve premium content, the thing is that one of them (Patreon) is viewed as the standard for this. People who would support on Patreon most likely already support or have supported artists on the platform in the past and wouldn't think twice about doing it for Disrupt. Making an entirely new platform is just adding unnecessary steps.
1 likeWelp, unsubcribed. Are we seriously buying shares for a youtube channel of all things? Just seems money hungry to me.
3 likesSources: Trust Me Bro
2 likesWould love to see the like to dislike ratio for this video.
1 likeI need more Kyle the Deer content
0 likesThis feels like A.I generated stuff, not buying into it lol
0 likesMan, you should've just asked people to subscrive to disrupt+ or made a patreon page
0 likesdon’t do it. people out there see potential with these channel and one day you will regret selling this off. disrupt could make millions and millions … i would just stick with it.
0 likesFucking hell, that pun... XD I'm genuinely interested, but god that was perfect.
0 likesI love this channel a lot but honestly… u gotta take this video down along with the “investment program” and try to bounce back from this absurdity.
2 likesDamn :/ I love this channel
1 likeThis is the new age of YouTube
0 likesYeah, no….. this channel had high quality content and you’ve now lost all of my respect. I’m unsubscribing, sad to see such a good channel go to hell.
0 likesI’ll give you $100 for the whole channel
0 likesSo I love this channel but this was a bad move. I think this is a Hanlon’s razor situation, I don’t think you are scamming people I just think you tried a interesting new idea. However it’s not a good one, just a quick look at the comments shows that this has been a massive hit to disrupt’s reputation. I think it would have been a much better idea to promote a patreon. Many have already talked about the debt and the value and all that other stuff. I see the potential and the big ambitions that you have but I don’t think a channel of your size can make it happen. You should just do a patreon pay off the debt grow a bit and when you actually start making these things and become a public company and do this investment. Right now there is no reason to invest since you won’t get a return on it for years.
1 like500k? Bro, I love this channel, but whoever made that mistake, made a BIG mistake. Honestly, I'd only toss you $100 max.
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It was him.
1 likeCan't wait for netease to buy a 70% stake on your channel
1 likeWow guys look at how far we have come now it's OUR turn to be the sharks :)
2 likesBro why are you doing this, every good youtuber has to either sell their channel or go inactive. Honestly i'm disappointed in you and if this is some elaborate joke then i'm still usubscribing.
0 likeswell idk shit about finance but from the comments alone.. its been nice knowing this channel and watched its quality contents..
1 likeMe playing this video as background noise while I read the comments:
3 likes😬😬😬 Yikes.
This ain't it, Chief.
3 likesI feel like this is against youtubes tos
0 likes“You think we should toss them a few bucks?” “I don’t see why not my deer 🦌 “
1 likeremember people. only invest what you’re willing to throw in the trash.
0 likesThe fact that you did not disclose the fact that you have defaulted on your $500,000 buyout of Jordan's shares in this video feels a little disingenuous and very sketchy. I love your content, and want nothing but for Disrupt to grow and prosper, but this fact now made me lose a little trust in the company. Your financial disclosure document even states that all $500,000 is being used to pay off your debt to him, but you wouldn't have known that unless you dug all the way to the final page of the document. For that reason, I personally cannot instill my financial trust in Disrupt, and caution other prospective investors to really put some thought into investing. If you want my personal recommendation, I'd like for you to pin a comment disclosing your true intentions for seeking investors. I wish you the best of luck with funding.
0 likesAnd I'm leaving this channel, be transparent or be gone.
0 likesI loved your videos but your dishonesty is disgusting.
You made a bad choice, you have to pay the consequences.
We're mostly viewers trying to get entertained, not investors trying to get money back. I'm sorry but we part here.
1 likeHahahaha someone needs to archive this video, all the comments, and any of the details he published. This will be on the exams next year.
0 likesYou make good videos and stuff but maybe don’t beg your fans to help you get out of a crappy situation that is entirely your fault <3
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He could if he was honest about it. He’s too arrogant that the problem.
0 likesYeah this is, off man. Your content is great. But we don’t know who you actually are. Especially in a time where we are going to get crippled by a recession. Just know there’s a 95% chance you will never see any profit or benefit monetarily from investing in this.
0 likesHow much is the annual ROI ? (for the last year)
0 likesThis is clickbait. I thought disrupt was better than that.
4 likesPatreon, this is not the way. Don't burn your bridges and lose the good faith you've built up over the years. And for god's sake, be more TRANSPARENT.
0 likesYou should do a video where you see if people on Fiverr can do your job and what price point. On the upside you might fin a cheaper way to make your videos. Maybe cut down on the effects 🤔 Would this story stand on it's own? Best channels on YouTube can usually be listened to.
0 likesRIP disrupt..its been nice watching you're content but it kind of leaves a bad taste..thought you'd have a bit more respect for you're viewers but I guess not..
1 likeYou could maybe pull this off if you had 5 million+ subscribers. Probably wasn't wise to buy the other guy out for 500k since you only post a few times a month
1 likeThis channel is always asking for more money. For what? No one wanted 3D graphics in videos. No one wants VR content. Your videos are paywalled half the time already , and when they aren't- they consist of 30% silent, drawn-out scene transitions. Sorry but I'm unsubbing.
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Actually the docs are good, but i agree he tends to go overboard.
1 likeJust start a Patreon instead of trying to scam lol
1 likeInsurmountble L to you sir
4 likesInteresting, I like the idea of selling equity like this. I’m curious to see how you value it and what kind of returns it’ll have
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https://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
0 likesFinally its here YES
https://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
0 likesFinally its here.
Same
0 likesDon't read my name..!!!!!
0 likesIsn't this just a mix of Stocks and Patreon?
1 like@Don't Read My Profile Photo ok we won't
7 likesIt’s on the link, although given from what others (who seem to have given it a look), it aint pretty
0 likesThe returns will be no more than a few cents, according to the owner of the company. Its only being done to repay a 500k debt that he defaulted on, ASAP, otherwise the debtor will take the channel back and Jak will be in a load of trouble. Wouldnt really matter, since the debtor is the co-founder. Content wouldnt change much.
0 likestell me your desperate without telling me you're desperate.
2 likesSo this is just a kickstarter version of a publicly traded company, but with none of the oversight, federal regulation, or consumer control? Yeah hard pass, this is a scam.
0 likesEdit: holy shit and you are only doing this because you defaulted on a 500k debt and have to pay back your debtors, wow what a fucking trip.
Yes the beginning of the YouTube stock market
1 likeI helped out with the Minecraft machinimas back when this channel was Propersteeze/Lopsideful, I should totally get a free share lol
0 likesa 10 million valuation for a YouTube channel 💀
0 likesyour money isnt going into anything other than debt
2 likesDammmmm i expected better form such a good channel now they try to run a ponze scheme
3 likesRemember boomers ruin everything guys
4 likesAnd how is this totally not a pyramid scam? 1: Get Funders 2: .... 3: Profit.
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investing is just a scam no one has ever made money investing !
3 likesThis is just to pay off debt, you won’t make your money back ever
12 likes@Dogald Trump False, there are companies paying good dividends every quarter. But on this one you definitely won't make any money.
1 likeSo for $100 i get a few cents a year and you get to pay off your 500k defaulted loan? This just sounds like privileged charity with extra steps
1 likeProbably one of the biggest channel downfalls of this year.
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Yeah he needs to default on this idea like he did on his debt
1 likeNothing like buying stocks for something that can easily go dead in a matter of weeks
0 likesNice, i'm gonna spend my entire life savings then
0 likesWhy not just start a Patreon? Just stay you need money.
1 likeppl here acting like this is a scam as if they arent being transparent on everything lol
1 likelove this channel, interesting content. 1.4 million is nothing to scoff at, but at the same time, it’s not, for example, pewdiepie numbers and revenue. hope it all works out, wishing you the best!
3 likesWHEN THE YOUTUBER BECOMES A SELLOUT
0 likesSo:
20 likesIf 7000 shares is 0.07% then one share is 0.00001% of the company, and 23 shares is 100$ so 1 share is about 4.35 dollars and there are 10000000 shares - so the company is worth 43.5 million dollars?
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No check the website
0 likes@MA They're not going to sell the entire company. My calculation is still accurate.
4 likesNo matter what, it’s a scam still
3 likes@MA TrumpetWizard's analysis is correct. They are only giving 20% equity to preferred stockholders. This makes for a company valuation in the neighborhood of $40.000.000. For a YouTube channel, that is insane. Outrageous.
9 likesAs a huge disrupt fan I’m a little disappointed.. just seems too sketchy and a leap of faith, definitely not what I expected from this channel:/
1 likeDude I love yall' channel but this just SCREAMS red flag
2 likesThis feels like one of those crypto scams, very dink doink esque with these weird skits promoting some vague investment that inevitably turns out to be a scam.
0 likesIdk what is going to come of this given everyone’s replies, good luck dude… Still rooting for y’all.
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Even the click bait title is kinda sus
0 likesY’all watch this channel yet don’t see how predatory this model is (on god I respect it but like kinda devious)
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What you mean
1 like@Normal Stranger
30 likesThey're saying you're watching a channel with a focus on scummy activities and yet can't detect scummy activities.
@Persun McPersonson what a 🤡
2 likes@CMGz FiveOneZero I mean this whole thing does seem shady from the outside looking in
8 likesEvery single one of their debts and their profit margins are all public before and after investment, whether or not this video is presenting a sugar coated story you should always educate yourself before making a large investment
2 likes@Kameron Jones if you’re scared don’t do it…
0 likes@Jordan absolutely agree with you.
0 likes@CMGz FiveOneZero not sh*t I am not doing it no sane person should even they themselves say it probably won't be profitable for years
4 likes@Kameron Jones well I’m gonna give it a shot… I can make that money back in no time! I’m not scared, nor do I think money is scarce. I live a life of abundance, and I’m never in need of anything… I can make money with ease… I’d rather try and fail and try again until I get the result I want. So with that said, pls take care and have a great one bud! ✊
0 likes@CMGz FiveOneZero have fun loosing because this has all the marks of a scam waiting to happen
3 likes@Kameron Jones well I’m going to try it… money comes and goes… I can make that money back in less time than it takes you to find your little sorry excuse of manhood… lol you need to step out of your comfort zone and just try new things… money is all around us… you can make money with no problem! But you will fail 100% of the time you don’t try… 🤡
0 likes@CMGz FiveOneZero you will fail 100 percent of the time investing into obvious scams 🤡. I mean it seem like you are trying to make yourself feel better about your life if you can actually make money as easily as you are saying then why are you getting so defensive about investing into this scam ?
4 likes@CMGz FiveOneZero
2 likesWow, talk about insecurity in your views, having to make such flimsy justifications. You're super in denial.
@Persun McPersonson 🤡
0 likes@CMGz FiveOneZero
1 likeProjection.
@Selection I’m set bro I have prepared for this for the last 5 years… best of luck.
1 likeWhat a scammer. These YouTubers really are something else with how little they care about scamming their fans. I'm surprised it doesn't come with an NFT he can pump and dump too! time to unsubscribe from this goofy.
2 likesSure idk much about this sort of thing but it to me this screams scam.
1 likei like your channel but you are not slightly worth what you wish for. how about you reach 10 million subs first, and we all donate like 10 bucks? but buying shares from a few nerds sounds like a NFT scam and isnt backed by anything except big words and great visuals, we all know how this ends...
5 likesDont let the high quality video fool you
0 likesScared me with the title, but this sounds like a great idea! Hope it works out and we get more great content
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https://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
1 likeFinally its here YES
Don't read my name..!!!!!
0 likeshttps://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
0 likesFinally its here
why are all the replies bots!!
21 likesNot really a great idea to invest though, they say the corporation is worth 10,7mil which is absurd, the corporation is 500k in debt, not only that but he defaulted on one of the payments, which just means the door is open for lawsuits.
7 likesTell me you're 12 without telling me you're 12
1 likeif y'all are gonna take off lemme in on a job; I'm invested. very interested in this type of work/media.
0 likesuh oh i am worried
0 likesgood luck with all that disrupt :)
This is really low for a tube like this. Shows where the economy is going🤡🪕🪕
0 likesI think the Disrupt people have severely underestimated the intelligence of the average viewer of this channel. I mean, this is just patronizing.
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Are you sure? The sum "invested" by people are up to a $159,116 as writing.
0 likesDude I just know disrupt is one of the most awesome channels I've ever seen ever
34 likesI don't have a hounded dollars but I will always follow disrupt to the very end, hope you guys can grow and develop as you wish, stay strong
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https://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
0 likesFinally its here.
Lets be honest we all enjoyed this video by having this:
1 likehttps://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
Ask a friend/family member for money. Worst case scenario, you pay a great channel money for all the amazing content they've given us for free. Best case scenario????? Anything.
1 likeYou don’t want to invest any money into this, you won’t ever see it again let alone make money off it
9 likes@100gecsRbetterthanGOD no
4 likesYou really picked the wrong audience to try a ponzi scheme with. Alot of us know better, and it's because of some of the topics you've covered here on this channel.
1 likeIf you go on the website and see perks you see this invest $1,000+ :Higher % of yearly net profit WOW this is fucking sketchy man wtf
2 likesill buy it for a dollar
2 likesthis is good and all but when’s the Netflix adaptation coming out?
1 likeGood thing YouTube removed dislikes, eh?
3 likesBro you owe $500,000 and thought this was a good idea? It’s not money to improve the channel, it’s debt money for you to pay to hold on to the channel!
2 likesYou just lost subscribers over this.
no way this channel is worth 10.7 millions, sounds like a scam
0 likesI believe disrupt has huge potential but that over value of the company is outrageous you can try to sell me shares when I’d need to throw 10s of thousands to see a even a little profit lower the value I’ll consider investment.
0 likesThe problem is its the old early access idea. "Pay now so we can use that money for our product." However what really happens is getting the money before incentives less quality sense you already have the money.
17 likesPlease just make a patreon! 😅
1 like120K out of 500K in an hour
3 likesPlease look into this before you post that. He originally bought half the channel for a 500000 loan and defaulted imideatly. He's pretty much just looking to pay back his friend. Check the balance sheets and ROI
0 likesngl you got me with the buffering at 1:17
2 likesSo having 23 shares, out of ?? and getting 20% of the profits split up how much could this be? How much money does disrupt really make?
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It can't make that much to warrant this.
1 likeBalance sheet on their site says net income of $130,000 in 2021. Doesn’t seem worth it for any real return for investors it’s more of a crowdfunding thing
5 likesIt’s not worth it at all.
2 likes@Zia there's a reason why the video didn't show any actual numbers and you have to go "out of your way" to see the financials. I would be fine with simply crowdfunding the channel via patreon or a kickstarter or whatever similar mean where it's transparent that you're making a donation. This is just a scam
5 likesI'm not good with the stocks thingy but this looks kinda shady
0 likesFor anyone who doesn't have the dislike button extension - this video has a shiiiiiiiit ton of dislikes.
2 likesDear Disrupt
2 likesWe the fans believe.....
Just use Plan B man.
Sincerely,
The Fans
With the consult of,
Coffeezilla
Very clever of you, but no. If you need money, ask for a donation, open a patreon or anything else, for that matter. This is also embarrassing, but at least not stupid and scam-like.
0 likesHonestly I would try my best to buy a share of this channel I only been subscribed since 2018 not to long but to have content this amazing for free the past 4 years I just have to show my appreciation
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https://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
1 likeFinally its here.
https://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
2 likesFinally its here YES
Do not buy into this. Look more into the numbers and do some digging this is a scam in its purest form
18 likesI highly suggest checking out their balance sheet. If you're like 9 years old and don't know how to read a balance sheet, you shouldn't even be commenting about an investment opportunity.
12 likesDon’t buy shot from them, it’s a scam trust us we are telling you not to waste your money
6 likes@bigboat83 why not? I can do whatever i wamt
0 likes@fault Of course, you can do whatever you want! If you're considering investing in this corporation you might as well also throw a $100 bill into your fireplace. Might make you feel better losing that money right away rather than watching it diminish into nothing over the course of the next few months. Jak (the owner) is not going to be able to pay off the $466,000 debt which he has incurred due to restructuring of the equity distribution in the company last year. When the ex-co-founder sues Jak because he defaulted on the promissory note, this channel (and therefore, this corporation) is going to be dead.
7 likesDon't do it. Don't waste your money. It's a scam in plain sight.
2 likes@fault No one is stopping you, its just everyone is saying that this is a terrible idea and you would be remiss to blindly dumb money into a company on the verge of bankruptcy.
0 likesI'll buy it fully for 2.38$ Deal or no deal?
1 likeThis just felt shady the second I heard about it and then the comment section explained it. Unsubscribed.
3 likesI knew it. Crappy clickbait and questionable sources made me think this was not gon last. I liked some vids but the clickbait and ads kinda turned me off. Good way to make profit I must say.
0 likesThis is the scammiest thing ive ever seen on my youtube feed. Like clickbait and all lol
6 likes10 million dollar eval. For 200k yearly revenue in a very volatile space where nothing is guaranteed. Yeah check their financials before you even think about touching this. Love the channel but eval is wayyy off
16 likesHow incredibly disappointing that you would do these scam-like tactics. I’ll be unsubscribing from you as I don’t support this.
1 likeDude just start a Patreon and don't try to scam your viewers wtf
0 likesNew YouTube scam meta unlocked
2 likesIs this a out of season April fools joke?
2 likesWhere's the dislike button when you need it
2 likesMisdirection and lies rub me the wrong way. Hopefully that's not what your doing. Is the thumbnail showing how you felt just before uploading this video?
1 likeThanks youtube for removing dislikes!
1 likeGoing by the comments this is a Path B for you pal.
1 likeAhhh that's a big L on investing in this channel.....can't you do patreon or just start a new chann!??💯💯💯 Will follow that instead my dude!!!🤘🤘
2 likesWhy wouldn’t you just take on sponsorships? I’ve seen smaller youtubers take on sponsorships, that I would assume pay pretty well and could cover a portion of the production for you.
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He does man. He just can cover the debt with sponsors.
0 likesYou really just want to take our money to pay off a 500,000 dollar debt from buying the other half of the company from Jordan. That isnt being put towards building out the channel or anything like that, its exclusively being put towards paying off your 500k promissory note that you defaulted on. Thats pretty disgusting, at least be upfront about what you are doing. I shouldnt have to read a legal document to see why you are actually doing it. Guess the adblocker stays on, then.
1 likeYou just lost every shred of respect I had for you. Congrats! You did in a single video!
so you got yourself in a lot of debt (half a mill) and are now crowd funding to pay it back. at least be up front about it
0 likesIt's like a high-quality crypto land video, fuck. Nothing is sacred man, if you want some good shit just do it yourself or deal with the fact of always having to be wary of anything you consume from others, especially those you have no personal connections with. Idk, it looks bleak, but to a degree, I think these types of projects, go-fund me, all this crap will push people to build with people who they know more organically and trust more in their communities than some grifters and soapbox scammers on the internet.
1 likeyaaa, y'know i may have invested into crypto but i aint buying into this. Ive lost respect for your channel even tho i love your content
1 likelol the “Zach” investor made me think he was going to crypto land
1 like10 million dollars for weird sound effects that force you to rewind to know what you're saying?
2 likesVideo's like this are why YouTube should have never removed dislikes, at least they aren't hiding comments that call out their shadiness.
0 likesPlease for the love of God don't sell it to a Chinese crypto company
0 likesThe contents are good and all but the way you advertise and the lack of information seems so suspicious. Also the way you're selling it to us it like a pyramid schemer. Also according to the comment section... Yeah this could be just a scam no thanks
0 likesI like the concept here but I'm out, just broke rn lol.
1 likeWith the price increases and everything going up in price, hard to give any money for the next several years.
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Don’t even think about it, it’s a scam
3 likesso when's the funding deadline? I don't see it on the wefunder page?
1 likeisn’t there already a term for “using other people’s money to pay off someone else’s investment, all while promising (or making it seem highly likely) that my investment will return more money”? i think it started with a P… not sure.
1 likelove the channel, but i would sooner do a patreon, or up my Disrupt+ subscription if you need money.
also plz be more upfront about the pre-revenue nature of the company, and the current debt owing. having it on the last page of your financials isn’t what i would call “good enough”.
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again, love the channel. but bare-minimum disclosure isnt it. if you want to take it seriously, let’s cut the editing and production of the video, do a livestream where you walk us through the financials and show us the projections and the realistic nature. this gives us facts to make a smarter decision on. but at that point… im asking myself why traditional investors didnt bite? are you hoping that by crowdfunding you can avoid golden-handcuffs and proper accountability/due-diligence?
0 likescrowdfunded companies dont have a good feeling in my gut, and they rarely work. involving a community (in my opinion) is better done through a product people pay for. there’s a reason us “normal folks” aren’t investors… and it’s bc it’s an extremely complicated and highly-risky job.
0 likesinstead of asking me to spend $100 on an investment, find a way to get me to spend $100 on a product. that’s real revenue you can feel good about (and likely scale easier), and you keep your %.
I would love to invest but I am pretty sure you can’t do it under 18
0 likesAlways felt this channel was sus , now I know I was right
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The channel is amazing but the creator is sus as fuck.
1 likeMy man's making money just by say this
0 likesXDDDD I'd rather give that money to my family or a charity
1 likeI love your channel and content so much, but I think you should delete this video. it just sounds like yet another NFT type scam (like Masterworks or Atlas)
1 likeI think you have set a terrible precedent. I’ve never seen a channel do this but now that this is out in the public this is going to open up more people to do this. With a channel your size you could have raised 500k very quickly if you did it a more traditional way. you had like 50% of a good pitch which is the talent but the other half is so bad it destroys everything else.
0 likesThe financials don’t make sense even if you had one investor for the full 10% 50k would probably be a more fairish deal, but that’s pushing it. The “multiple revenue streams” is a big ol yikers. Yt sure that’s one, disrupt+ is a nothing burger and at best you’re just going to waste money on the maintenance of the site lol. You could do the same thing on Patreon without the headache of the site, no one needs another streaming service.
Legit if you just put out a new piece of merch with a new video that went along with the topic of the video, you’d make a killing, if you just release videos early on patreon you’d make a killing. There is no need for this but you will raise the 500k no matter what, unless you decide to stop it lol. Gl
I am watching the downfall of one of my favorite channels.
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His partner will retake control of it when he sues.
0 likesSO YOU'RE TELLING ME DISRUPT IS GOING PUBLIC SOMEHOW 👀👀👀
0 likesLol the comments on this video. Great channel but this is a bit sus. I’m interested in how this pans out
3 likesThis is one of the biggest own-goals i have seen, you are trying to scam your viewers into paying off a loan you took to buyout the other half of your channel, at 10x the valuation you yourself bought it at. Why not just pay off your debt slowly with the probably pretty sizeable revenue from your 1.4m sub channel? Why risk your most valuable asset - your relationship with your audience? Not to mention that this is almost certainly a ToS violation and maybe even ILLEGAL. What's really going on? You got a cocaine addiction you need to fund?
1 likeTheirs bands actually doing this with cd releases through blockchain ownership.
0 likeslook you make good content but I don't think "Path A" is the right way to go..... as much as I enjoy these videos, I have to look at the creator before I can look at the content.
1 likedamn man, i found this channel about a month ago and binged all the content. Now I gotta unsub.
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Just watch the content whisky staying unsubbed and skip the ads to punish him.
0 likesyour approach is the future 100%
0 likesOh, my ad blocker isn't working.
5 likesI literally thought it was a joke
1 likeI hope this is a social experiment
1 likeSo that raise alot of question. How many shares will their be, how can you proof the shares, how will you proof the revenue, for what I can see it will all be one big " Trust me bro" investment?
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Yeah, they don't seem to be handling this smartly at all, which makes their competence at putting people's investments to good use just as questionable.
4 likesSo their debt is high assests cancel a little at most and yet they only make 120000 a year profit but their debt is still at least 400000 meaning it will take at least 3 years of work before making any meaningful profit , that means ur money is at risk for 3 years and will not start growing for a long time , this means since youtube cahannles are quite risky buisnesses as it relies on consistent quality and viewers , it is a horrifc investment that carries more risk than reward, or thats what i think at least , dont invest until uve lookes trough the balance sheets at least and probbably also talk to a advisor due to the inherrent risk
3 likesout of all audiences u could pitch this to…
0 likesIdk man i feel like YouTube will find a way to stop you're plan knowing them there's a high chance.
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doubt it but if they did that would be a good thing
1 likePlease take this down man! You have disappointed us all
2 likesMy guy used a doorbell camera to record this 😂
0 likesBro ain’t no way I just found your channel a couple of weeks ago and now you’re a scammer
1 likeI know how to use unreal engine too does that mean I can sell securities on my talent?
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Right? Maybe accure $500,000 + 2.5% intrest in debt and maybe you can muster up the courage to advertise your unreal engine skills as an "investment" lmao.
0 likesyou could have just made a gofundme or something dude
1 likeI mean this is essentially the first IPO for a youtube channel I've ever seen if you go for path A.
161 likesI don't know how it's going to turn out because it hasn't happened before.
People sell their youtube channels to advertisers all the time but I'm very much interested in seeing how this plays out.
Keep up the good work.
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The channel is actually owned by google.
4 likeshttps://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
1 likeFinally its here.
Lets be honest we all enjoyed this video by having this:
2 likeshttps://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
@itzhexen What?
3 likes@itzhexen the last clown I want here is an "but uchtually" guy.
5 likesDid you know theres a pot of gold at the end of a barrel of a loaded gun?
Check it out!
@itzhexen bonus points if you walk down the stairs whilst looking at it.
1 likeIPO's are connected to the stock exchange. This isn't an, IPO or "like an IPO". It's just, asking people to invest money for a portion of the returns.
10 likes@Matthew Terry Your channel is owned by google too.
3 likes@Birza Hula Ironic.
0 likesLinus Tech Tips did a similar thing through Frameworks
2 likesDid this channels reputation just hit rockbottom? Im reading the comments and O.M.G people aren't happy at all. This is easily my favorite Chanel on Youtube but this video kinda tanked its reputation
0 likesVisionary investment. Very risky for any short term gains, but the future is moving towards vr (and AR as an extent to that). Entertainment will always be one of the most influential and profitable industries period; however, there is a significant chance that society rejects or diminishes these new forms of communication, as any generation does. That risk is pretty large in my opinion, but getting in to any new industry will pay dividends if it’s successful. That’s just my two cents though. Please don’t respond to my to my comment I just don’t want 3,000 notifications,(Unless you’re disrupt ;) ). All love <3
0 likesFrom 2020 to 2021 their net income more than 2Xed YoY. People saying their balance sheet is absolute trash have no idea what they’re talking about.
0 likes"Do not recommend this channel"
0 likesSeems scammy to me
2 likesHell of a way to turn the comment section into Shark Tank. This video and the comments were both surprising to see.
0 likesYour videos are over edited and honestly sometimes hard to enjoy because of that, most of the edits are also quite pretentious and superficial. In other words your edits are often special effects than actual edits, making most of them distracting and unnecessary. It's one of the reason why I subscribed but rarely watch your content. The premise is good, the execution is not. Maybe if you adjust your style a bit your channel would've been a whole lot successful.
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I fully agree with you on this. I stuck around with this channel for it's unique and diversified content, but as time went on I found it became harder for me to enjoy it. To me, the over the top editing just made a lot of these videos nigh incoherent and hard to follow. It also didn't help that videos started to get split into 2 separate segments, with typically only 1 of them actually being relevant to the title of the video. I'm glad to see someone else says it, though.
2 likesIs this even allowed on youtube?
2 likesGood idea bad execution the value is to high
1 likeYeah no thanks mate. Find another way to pay of your debt if you're that desperate your getting none of my money 😂
0 likesI dont know squat about investments and shit, but this just doesn't sound right. It just feels like a scam tbh.
1 likeAnd this is how you lose your viewers' trust.....
2 likesI like this channel. But im gonna have to go against the general sentiment in the comments here and say that i really dont like this
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Why?
0 likes@Ben Amos Public Companies have a legal obligation to make as much profit as possible for their shareholders. Especially with creative work this can destroy everything
18 likes@TheNinjas Fair enough. But it still goes into that direction of corporatization that i dont like. I mean its their company they can do what they want. But there are many failed channels on youtube that went the corporate route and didnt survive. There are of course others like LTT that successfully managed it but i just have a bad feeling about this
9 likesThis investment is the biggest scam
11 likes@RedBandanaCat You're correct. As an investor, I don't give a shit about the quality of the creative work. As an investor, your sole and primary concern should be the money on the balance sheet. After reading their financial statements, this company is going to be dead in the water in a few months if Jak doesn't find a way to repay the $466,000 that he defaulted on.
14 likesThis feels... fraudulent...
0 likeslove you but maybe shouldn't have gotten half a mill in debt buying this channel if you cant afford it
1 likeMaking a patreon would be better and wouldn't have the backlash this video is causing
0 likesThe greatest ad I’ll ever see
0 likesI rather gamble on my shitcoins good sir.
5 likesOmg that buck part was so cool
1 likeCool scam.
0 likesNot sure why YouTube recommended this to me (never heard of your channel before and am still unsure exactly what your content is even about) but this is some real greasy shit.
Aight Disrupt, it's been real 🫡
0 likesIs this an out of season April fool's joke?
1 likeDamn he really is trying to scam viewers
0 likesThis is worse than investing into cryptocurrency that will be the “next big thing”
0 likesif you sell this channel im unsubbing
2 likes1:21 your really got me and my mf 4mb internet
0 likesIf your channel dies, someone else will do the same thing as you it may be better may not but at the end of the day this channel barely uploads so are you surprised your channel is barely making money?
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Lmao such a brutal comment, he should really let this comment specifically sink in.
1 likeWell tbf these videos take ages to make so it’s not a surprise he barley uploads, but the main issue is he’s isn’t good at making money clearly. If he was then he wouldn’t have this problem. He could easily monetise things but he’s obviously shit at it.
0 likesHard pass, you're in debt and didn't mention it 'very unprofessional', anybody viewing should take that personally. Unsub. I've got way better investments. Plus your social blade estimated earnings are too low and you're asking for too much and giving too little for your made up valuation. You just want bailed out, tasteless.
1 likethis seems incredibly sketchy, i love disrupts content but what the hell?
0 likes"Disrupt has defaulted on a Promissory Note with a prior member of the
8 likescompany and as of May 23rd, 2022 currently owes the Noteholder a Note
Balance of $466,179.87 on which interest is accruing at a rate of 2.5% per
annum. Disrupt will use approximately $500,000 of the Campaign proceeds to pay
off the Note Balance, to pay legal fees to the Noteholder’s counsel, and to
pay Disrupt’s legal and regulatory fees in compliance with Reg CF."
Hidden at the bottom of the financial statements is kind of sketchy. maybe I just have bad financial literacy here but it sounds like the $500k goal isn't for "investing in the channel" and is more about offsetting the outstanding costs of these debts...
I highly recommend digging into the documentation if you're planning on using this as a serious investment however if you're just throwing money at the channel for fun then go right ahead these guys make some kickass stuff so by all means donate.
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sounds to me like they are trying to fully take care of those debts to use the future income to take the company beyond where it's stuck due to the aforementioned debt. I don't care if i get no returns for a while, if it gets them on the road to the amazing things that can be done in the coming years.
2 likesThe fact that they can put together all this content, with the quality never wavering, with this amount of debt, leads me to believe that in a debt free state they would soar.
@T. O'Neill I feel the exact same way
2 likesStaaxx it seems we aren’t the only ones that think this way, the vid has only been up a bit over an hour and they already have 100k invested.
1 like@T. O'Neill yeah i see a few comments saying it's a scam bc of that but i don't think they'd risk jeopardizing their channel and reputation; rather, money was loaned and invested to boost the channel's resources and they're calling for investors to help carry the project ahead. nothing wrong with that imho.
0 likesI put a 100 buck in 'cause I'm curious. I've read the Coffee Zilla comment and I think he's right but I really want to see what happens next, when the 500k is "repaid"
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Lucky you who can just afford to throw 100 bucks in the garbage like that.
0 likesdon't ruin the channel man
0 likesWhy didn’t you just ask for donations? Reading other comments it seems like your in debt. Your fan base loves your content so I’m sure people would like to help you out. No need to do all this glorified scam stuff, just be truthful and ask for help. :)
0 likesDamn these comments are going crazy... i agree with whatever these people are saying
0 likesIs that 7,000 shares =0.7% accurate? Because if so that is highly concerning. I don’t see how you can make a profit on this as an investor. This seems like a way to entice people to donate by hiding behind the facade that you’ll own something. Dogecoin vibes
9 likesIf only you could short this or Long Puts.
1 likeBro, why?
3 likesThis is consumer/viewer blackmail, and one of the few reasons I've unsubscribed to channels in the past. Although in all of those instances, the channel creators became involved in NFTs or selling Crypto. That isn't what you're doing, here. And I do respect that.
But this is still almost as bad. Although I fully realize it is a legal business strategy, and that even larger channels on YouTube are beginning to feel the crunch of inflation, putting any of that on your viewers' shoulders is very, very wrong. I promise you that almost no one will do this.
I've said my piece. I know that only the most successful channels are actually making a real profit right now (as in 10M+ subscribers) but this has gone too far. You've lost a subscriber, for good.
If it sounds like a scam it probably is a scam.
0 likesNice try, dude. Good luck!
0 likes120k in an hour is crazy
1 likecan't wait for the video essay on the rise and fall of the disrupt channel nyo
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download the channel's videos while you still can folks!
0 likeswaiting for the day when disrupted blows up. Love the content and have been watching for a long time.
0 likesWelp. Lost a subscriber today. Hope most people read the fine print before 'investing'.
2 likesThis is a scam.
i cant wait for all the videos to be private with his comments everywhere (botted with the check mark next to his name) and the name/pfp change with a video that says “Who is (name)?”
1 likethis is a joke btw
I need more numbers.
0 likesHave been reading comments and I am definitely not going to invest.
Dude i literally subbed to disrupt tv 3 days ago and unsubbed after this video. Sad.
1 likeYou should sell disrupt nfts
1 likeI had a thought; you have the abilities to render videos with entities, you would more than likely be able to create a game with groundbreaking graphics, amazing gameplay and high-quality cutscenes. You may have to find/employ a few other people and it way take a while, but the sheer scale of the graphical ability I've seen in your videos means that this could be a hit option. I think you could end up creating a bigger studio than the likes of Epic Games with enough effort, and with the software and abilities you and your team currently has it wouldn't take a long time to get there. I would like to see what you do with my thought, as it could help with funding.
1 likeThanks for reading this.
What's next? A Disrupt metaverse? Don't go down this path.
0 likesSo you're out of money and decided to scam your audience. Unsubscribed.
2 likesSketchy af, lost a huge amount of respect for you.
1 likethis is literally an episode of shark tank
0 likes3:56 OMG is that Disrupt himself!!!!
1 likeBro I swear on my grandpa's grave that disrupt TVs camera effects are way too fucking real, you can't achieve this shit without actually being there with a camera
0 likesThis does not help if you're actually trying to serve and build your community. I can find similar content without being financially pressured. Bad idea.
1 likeShares for minimum of $100 USD? Really was excited to get in on this, but unfortunately that price is out of my budget. I hope you reach your goal and continue producing these amazing videos!
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The investments are to pay off debt, it would take years before you make your money back of $100 and that’s if everything goes well
4 likesIn general I agree that barriers like minimum $ amount aren't good but this case is different. Maybe it's a good thing that broke people can't afford to lose money on this investment, which is a sure thing. It will mean less pain when everyone realizes that it's a trap.
0 likesJust make a gofundme oh my god why would you do this
1 likeThis is ridiculous and a big L. Wrong move, my man
0 likesI thought of this if I was ever popular well I guess some channels will copy you now
0 likesHoly crap, what year is this from? I've never seen anything so low resolution
1 likeGood luck with your ponzy scheme, Makes a channel based around covering fraud and then proceeds to do fraud
0 likesThis is a terrible idea. I love your content but not sure if I want to be subscribed and support this.
1 likehuh? uh... this is making me lose interest in the channel already. why even sell it at this point? it's so sketchy.
0 likesCongrats, you have escaped my sub box.
0 likesI hope the new owners push for fewer crazy ass sound effects
5 likesif you think youre going to make money on this please stop and read the balance sheet. this channel is not worth 10m😂
1 like@youtube this is why we need a dislike counter.
1 likemake a patron if you need money instead of selling something like this.
0 likesjust use patreon don’t make a pseudo-public offering. This is embarrassing
1 likeThis channel will set a bar for youtubers, for good or worse.
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For worse, it’s always worse
5 likesThis sounds like a scam
0 likesinstead of asking me to invest $100 into a pre-revenue company, create a product for me to spend $100 on.
0 likesYou get real revenue that can scale with proof of market fit, i get a product i’m happy with and doesn’t feel like a loss, and you also keep your %.
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He’s too lazy
0 likeswow thanks disrupt! we hate it.
1 likeYou should have just been honest man...
1 likeSorry, but I comically laughed at your evaluation. I can't imagine your channel being worth a total evaluation of $250K, let alone $10.7M! What the hell guys, just go back to making good content and stop trying to make a quick buck lol it never ends well.
7 likespeople please don't invest in this
1 likecmon man dont try and do us dirty
0 likesI love your animations
0 likesHow do I know I will get some money or that I really own portion of Disrupt? This seems just as donation, not buying actual portion. Also it kinda feels like exit scam, just because their disrupt,id domain is for sale now and I can't find mentition of "Disrupt Inc." or even their Discord.
4 likesThis is one of my favorite youtube channels. I really hope it doesn't sell out like this :/
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it already has :/
0 likesThis is so out of place for this channel
3 likesSEC OPEN UP!!!
2 likesperfect channel for 2am
1 likedisrupt turned from virus documentary maker to scam artist.. kinda ironic
0 likes"you mean help me reach a goal"
0 likesBet I can make a channel with a million off the couldn't make the cut shills LAMO🤒
2 likesi feel its gonna flop
0 likesUnsubbed, I don’t support scammers.
2 likesPatreon would be a way better option, not this goofy setup
1 likeIsn't this against youtube tos?
1 likeWhat a strange decision.
6 likesYou're selling this to us as a way to fund the studio but you're structuring it as if we should attempt to get a return on investment.
Should we? Is this supposed to be generating profits for the investor, or is it meant to be an altruistic donation?
Edit: the doe pun was funny tho
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Okay, after reading the info on the page it seems like we, the subscribers, aren't the real target of this move. The target seems to be serious investors in the entertainment industry with the explicit intent to earn profit, and this video is essentially just a publicity stunt, for lack of a better term, to get on their radar.
1 likeGiven that all the site in the description does is gauge interest I'm guessing they're trying to get as many of us as possible to say we would spend money, inflate the fuck out of the stock evaluation, and use that evaluation to make a proper pitch to some silicon valley types, hoping they'll dump enough money on them that this project stays afloat.
Power to them I guess, their videos are really good.
This investment is a big scam. It will take you years to make your money back and that’s if the channel doesn’t go down hill, which it will
2 likesThe campaign is a desperate attempt to pay off a $500,000 debt that the creator is in. The details are linked on the campaign page, in their financials document. None of the money is going towards growing the Disrupt brand.
1 likeMr. Wonderful would throw up in his mouth as soon as he hears about the 6% juice, cool chanel but this is not a good look. The last thing you should do is invest in a company that's already trying to play clean up by basically asking for a $100 donation because I would not call that an profitable investment. JS!
0 likesoof, how many nft's did you buy?
2 likesWhy do you lie to your audience? It's not gonna do you any good in long-term, but will ruin your reputation
0 likesNever thought I'd see a scam on this channel. That's disappointing.
35 likesYeaaaah...No. I like your Videos, but not I am not "investing" at least 100$ for basically nothing.
1 likeBasically you are fishing for Donations. Investing implies something of value and some return of investment.
what a coincidence because im blocking this channel
3 likeswhy try to scam people on the internet lmao you always get caught...
1 likeHow to ruin a channel in one video challenge
1 likeSorry man, I love the content but your valuation is way overinflated at 40x revenue and the equity buyout deal you signed with the previous partner overvalued the company at the time that deal was signed so you are raising money that can't be used to grow the company, only to pay out someone who is no longer providing value to the company. My advice is fold it and start fresh, crowdfund from blank slate at a valuation of $4mm or less, and as painful as that might be and as long as it might take to regrow your subscribership you will come out much better for it.
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Mate he can’t just fold it at this stage, although I agree with what you are saying overall.
0 likes@Fidelio he can always fold it. Might take bankruptcy proceedings, but it is always an option
0 likes@KinNectar He can’t shutdown the channel. It’s YouTube man. It’s not a real company. Best option is he abandons it and he starts a new one but he can’t actually remove the channel.
0 likes@Fidelio what are you talking about? You can deactivate a YouTube Channel, or just delete all the content, though in this case that would be more petty than necessary. What he needs to shut down is the production company that pays the content creators, and owes money to his former partner.
0 likeshaha what a scam, no thank you. i am unsubbing from this greedy man.
1 likeThat's gonna be an unsub from me, boss
2 likesngl, what if you asked shark tank to do this for you
1 likethey would probably damn deny you
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They'd deny Jak immediatly after disclousing revenue and his debt lmao.
0 likesWhy not just use Patreon
1 likeIf 5,000 people invested 100$ that would meet the goal. Lets say Disrupt makes $1,000,000 flat in a year, $100,000 would go to the 10% collectively owned by the viewers, if each person donated 100$ amongst 5,000 people, after a year you would get $20. I personally wouldn't do this but who knows maybe the channel takes off and makes absolute bank
0 likesliterally selling out lmao
2 likesWelp it was fun while it lasted, Bye bye!
2 likesI might pitch in, this channel is more promising than any NFT project you nerds invested in
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Look at what happened to all those nft and crypto scams. This is a bad idea and a bad investment for anyone.
48 likes@Crystllclr it's so embarrassing to keep seeing people like you reduce investing into "its all a scam" you guys need to learn the very basics
10 likes@Dogald Trump Investing is more than just Crypto and NFTs. They are not talking about investing as a whole.
40 likesDon't read my name..!!!!!
0 likesnfts were just overhyped but i’ve made decent money off of them, just gotta do some research :)
2 likes@Crystllclr Idk why this is being compared to NFTs or crypto. This is more like traditional stock market trading.
4 likes@Dogald Trump after careful consideration and a year of research i can say with confidence that investing in a passive source of income is a scam, or at the very least incredibly sketchy/unethical.
2 likes@Ur Mom bro im glad that after ONE YEAR you have made the ultimate conclusion on "passive income" while thousands of people have become millionaires by patiently investing in forms of passive income lmao
2 likes@Crystllclr Just checking their social blade they make around £4k at their lowest. Buying 20% means you will make a return, and his subscribes only seems to increasing
0 likespeople with the kind of mindset on display here are what you call NGMI
0 likes@Ur Mom only a year? Do better research.
0 likes@R Я Any NFTs you sold, you sold to someone who will inevitably loose it all as that asset is fundamentally worth nothing
2 likes1% of people are winners, 99% are loser, and that’s being very generous. This channel investment is just a scam
2 likeswell thats it, shame to see this channel die was a good run
0 likesI wonder just how many of the comments folks actually read the description, no one did that huh?
0 likesGoodluck to you and your investors but this scheme doesn't have a good history.
1 likeYou can't sell what Google/YouTube owns unless you are Google and I don't think you're Google!
0 likesholy shit they created 6 minutes of unreal engine filler for a 3-4min video just to pitch how they want to do some pseudocrowdfunding shares thing. goddamn disrupt is cool af but they got way too much visual aesthetic filler than the juice ong
1 likeIt’s a scam don’t invest
1 likeI am a fan, but I will not being buying as this is very sketchy.
1 likeThis guy and his team have to be the smartest and hardest working YouTubers on the platform.
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https://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
1 likeFinally its here YES
https://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
0 likesFinally its here.
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0 likesAnd here we see the exact opposite ^
8 likes@Kass huh?
0 likesOr dumbest
6 likes@Spiral The bots in the comments.
0 likesOkay so for this to work with let’s say; $100 and your personal goal is getting a 10x ROI Disrupt would have to make either a big load of single videos with alteast 1 million views to earn 2-3k USD with it. If 1000 people were to invest $100 each into disrupt, the burden would be on disrupt to deliver a set amount of videos with each a million views. The adoption rate of the channel will further dilute the revenue stream into investors wallets concluding this I think I won’t invest in this channel even though I absolutely love the content and am a loyal subscriber.
0 likesYeah no... I'll just watch youtube
1 likeBig fan and im sorry youre in this situation but this is sketchy. See ya
0 likesSimply NO.
2 likesHeard Colin & Samir talk about this concept and it always seemed really powerful. Hoping you guys hit your goals, this is by far one of my favorite channels on Youtube, would love to see it grow even more.
3 likesThis is disappointing
2 likesDid you have to do this man 😞
1 like130k in the first day, damn
1 likedamn jus ask for a donation. you clearly are in debt. I used to really like this channel but if you lie to your fan base about this, how much of the other information is fabricated? unsubbing.
1 likeWe need coffeezilla to just double check this I think, it seems like a great idea but I agree it is a bit sketch
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Actually he may already be onto this. He has a precedent for covering scams under $500k.
11 likesOh and just to be clear, if you check the financials this as an investment is a plain scam.
Yeah I hope Coffee covers this.
7 likesexcited for the video already
3 likes@Munchkin Babz I don’t think it’s big enough fish for him.
1 likehe commented :)
3 likes@micky ok aye good shit
0 likesForsure Buying Some Shares.. Like 100%
1 likeshameless scam. definitely will unsubscribe and not watch videos from this channel again.
1 likethis seems scammy
1 likeStart taking path B buddy
1 likePlease consider unsubscribing from disrupt
2 likesThank god YouTube hasn’t removed comment sections yet
3 likesjeez went from a channel I loved, to like watching the red ape nft family cartoon. Not a good look disrupt.
2 likesSo when is the Apology Video dropping?? 🤔🤔🤔
1 likeYeah this shit seems sketchy , good bye to this channel
2 likesYou post like twice a month though. There’s no money to be made when you’re getting less than 1 million views a month
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He can’t post more with his kind of content. He just is unrealistic about what kind of channel he has.
0 likesYou may have just killed the channel.
1 likeinstead buy the stock NILE
1 likeand ZIM
This ain't it chief.
1 likeThis was a huge mistake.
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agreed
0 likeshas this ever been done before ???
0 likesholy fuck this is sketchy as hell
3 likesWelp youtube is fucked.
13 likesEven channels are god damn selling shares.
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All these people just immediately falling for it is so depressing. People are so dumb.
10 likes@Persun McPersonson Sign of the end times friend.
1 likeI love ur channel and ur content so i have to be honest and tell u that this is going to kill your channel.
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The guy he owes the money to will retake control of the channel.
1 like@Fidelio i think he shouldve taken a regular crowdfunding approach, ppl love his stuff and would def support him if he was being more genuine ab this all
0 likes@the mother of harlots I agree. Unless he apologises my previous comment will be the outcome.
1 likeI hope nobody is stupid enough to buy into this, unsubbed. Bye.
2 likesHuh...the little deer cub (or is it a kid?) reminds me of me...before the war (not Ukraine). Anyway, how do you do the SEL Layers Guy voices in your videos?
0 likesSorry chief, no sell. Love your content but you dont have my business sorry
1 likemaybe instead of misleading title. yes you are selling bu it should be selling 10% of the channel and basically not fully. Which is what cost might come to.
0 likesWHEW SLID OUT OF THIS CHANNEL QUICK
1 likeI don't have $100 can someone lend me some shares lol
1 likei read the financials. it's a scam to pay off his debt. don't invest.
0 likesIs this an ARG of sorts?
0 likesIt's weird that you're using UE4 for your videos because blender should be a better alternative.
0 likesThis is dumb, dont ruin your reputation over this.
1 likedont sell this
0 likesisnt this against youtube's TOS
6 likesat least they didnt disable comments for anyone considering investing. i'll see you on SunnyV2
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lmfao
0 likesAnd I thought Disrupt+ was greedy
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Why? I think that’s fair. This is going too far though.
2 likesPay your debt like a man. Get your spending in check. Stop asking people to bail you out.
0 likesWho wants to bet this is a scam. Sketchy as all hell
0 likesso this is youtube NFTS but with "shares".... thanks but no thanks
0 likesDisrupt is YouTube's Tarantino
0 likesinvesting in a youtube channel gave me all the bullshit alarms
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I knew it was trouble even from the title.
0 likesAw man, just get a patreon or something
0 likesI'll buy it for 24¥
0 likesI'm sad now :(
2 likeshorrible investment, disappointed in Jak for not disclosing the whole deal, and the fact that he’s ONLY raising the money to pay off debt. Investors on the other hand, based on the site itself WILL NOT be making any money. I hate how this channel makes everything about business rather than the art of it.
1 likeYou've earned: an unsub!
1 likeDisrupt, dude... This has more scam written on it than the Nigerian prince who emailed us all in the early 2000s. Where is your growth plan, your roadmap to increase value to shareholders? "Digital media by small companies, good" is not a growth plan. I like your videos guys but what the hell are you doing? I can't respect or condone this, you are trying to con people out of their money to cover your debts here from what I can gather. You can retract all this but the damage is done to be honest.
1 likeDude just get a patreon
0 likesis this an april fools joke?
1 like5:45 SAO vr headset lol nice touch there
0 likesi love the music! POGO IS THE BEST AUDIO PRODUCER!!!!
0 likesi'd say disrupt invested at the wrong way posting this video.
0 likesguys, we’re getting prankd
0 likes1 minute of watch time and a dislike. My job here is done.
3 likesyour valuation is insane and the whole thing seems very scammy-if you need $$ set up a ko-fi or patreon like everyone else-like your content, but this makes the trust factor go down for me, just very weird decision
7 likesFuck do you need 500k for?
4 likesWhat stops you from bagging it and dipping?
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He’s in debt 😂
0 likesdisrupt tv to the moon
0 likesBruh just establish a patreon
0 likes11k likes in 4 hours with 60k views kinda sussy?
4 likesYou do know that patreon is a thing?
5 likesLmfao $10.7MM is way too much for a youtube channel
0 likesthis is just a really late aprils fool right?
0 likesYeah im not buying that, still got cool vids tho
1 likeGoodluck. Unsubbing though. Seems like a scam.
2 likesisnt this against Youtube's ToS?
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Hmm, maybe. Ill check.
0 likesEdit: Well, I don't know about the terms of service but I think it may fall under "Spam, deceptive practices, & scams policies" in the Community Guidelines.
WAIT YOU REALLY BE USING POGO IN THIS VIDEO?
0 likesJust go public bro.
1 likeThis feels scummy... especially if that bit about you owing someone 500k is true and you didnt disclose it. Not to mention Im pretty sure some laws are being broken here? How can you privately sell "stock" in your brand. That is kinda the definition of insider trading...
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I watch your videos all the time and I love your content. I just dont want this to ruin the channel or get you in trouble
0 likesThis is a terrible investment. There's absolutely zero disclosure on what profits would be like for these "shares", your monthly revenue is nowhere to be found on the financial documents, and your fundraising goal is clearly to pay off that buyout hidden deep in those very vague financial documents. Investors don't like it when you lie about what you really need the money for.
0 likesI'm very confused it shows 0 of $500,000 but some people already put reviews and where does it say on the website how much "shares" I get from $100 this seams like another YouTube scam and why don't you go public if you really are try to sell shares????
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For me it's saying 120,910 out of 500, so I guess it just hadn't updated yet? Though people mention other reasons it's not a good investment
1 likelol now he's losing the sub 😂😂
0 likesI can already see the video on SunnyV2s channel, this is not a good idea
0 likes1.42m to 1.41m in 3 minutes lmfao
1 likeA long time fan. But is this a joke i really hope it is..
0 likesdisrupt getting into all the "metaverse" garbage is not surprising, stick to vrchat for that stuff. hope ill never see an nft from you guys
4 likesso who wants to bet that this is a scam?
0 likesThis has gotta be a bit.
2 likesLiteral Ponzi scheme lmao
1 likeCAN I PLEASE WATCH YOUR VIDEOS WITHOUT VR
0 likes500k goal, you want too much for what is already there.
3 likesSorry Jak, the content was pretty good but this is such a rocky foundation of trust that you expect us to stand on with you. So many fucking online scams these days. Unsubbed. Later, mate.
0 likesWorth it
1 likeNot happy with this move. WHY? Because you leave all the 500k debt out and paint it with fluff. You use the compelling video talents to try to manipulate the viewers that don’t read the fine print and think it might be fun to add a little money. Also the valuation is completely and utterly untruthful. I don’t see this as sincere. It’s somewhat deceptive
0 likesHow can I buy?
0 likesChecked balance sheet... company defaulted on a note from a previous company holder owing 466k @ 2.5% interest now. While many startups hold debt, there is not anything tangible here. Now if I invest and I get a certain % and can own a video that's different. Tread carefully...
15 likesedit
To add your investing in not just this channel but depending on these guys to keep creating content.
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May I ask where can I read the balance sheet please
1 likeThe site they link you to has it
0 likes@Cj Thank you
1 likeDisrupt to the moon
0 likesGood God don't scare me like that you gosh darn wonderful clickbaiter you.
0 likesthis video is being saved by the dislike count being turned off. do not invest in this at its current state.
1 likeMan please reconsider
2 likesthis is extremely messy but if you want to help support the channel ig go ahead and donate
0 likesim disapointed
0 likesTruly disgusting. This video is like a parody of a crypto scam hype video but its REAL.
0 likesfam you just want your debt paid off
0 likesb r u h
Click bait thumbnail? Emotional manipulation babyyy
2 likesthis is not it bro. id much rather transparency and you just setting up a patreon or something than misleading your viewers like this. why?
0 likesYou really deserve more subscribers for the quality of the video
1 likeshamless plug XD
0 likesmy fav channel too damn
0 likesThis ain't it chief.
0 likesoh god i was so scared you were selling it completely, i would have missed ya! hopefully this all turns out lovely for you guys! i can't offer any support as i don't even have a credit card yet but i wish y'all luck <3
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You’re gonna wish they were selling it, cuz this is a scam
20 likesTrying to invest but I’m waiting on my account to get verified lol
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a fool and his money are easily parted. Lol.
0 likes@Primm Slimm haven't invested yet, and don't plan to until more info comes out of about it. What they have up right now doesn't add up.
0 likes@Aidan You’re right: it doesn’t add up. They inflated their worth and their numbers don’t match. Jax probably valued his company through the heart and not the numbers, which is understandable but not how things work. He produces amazing quality content, but the numbers side of things just haven’t reached the height of the quality content.
1 likeObvious scam
2 likesWhat a scam lmao
0 likesThats so interesting
1 likeThis is big sad. Gonna be the death of this channel.
0 likesScam your audience, poggers!
0 likesDon't do it
1 likeTrying to scam your fans. Wow
2 likesim selling my house thank goodness i can buy part of your chanel
3 likesReally? The whole thing is like a bad april-fools joke lol. Shame on you.
1 likeI would invest but I don't think this channel will survive very long
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Not unless he abandons the idea
0 likesWhat will you do with the money if you don't reach the goal though?
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same thing he'll do if he does.
0 likesPay off as much of his 500k debt and pocket the rest.
I'm on board, this is so cool.
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Unfortunately it doesn't appear that way. Have a dig through the comments here before you do anything.
0 likes@Jake Brown Lol okay
0 likes6:08 is this the Lofi Girl??
0 likesNo signs of merch anywhere...
0 likesAll I’m getting from this is you’re broke
0 likesOne word: Yikes
1 likesounds like a nft but more cooked. how many shares will you sell max?
4 likesAlong with all the negative press this is kind of like Ferrari trying to sell you their stock when buying a Ferrari, they just don’t do that. If you wanted to invest in Ferrari you’d go to where ever Ferrari sells their stock, not their dealership.
0 likesI miss the dislike button…
1 likeSorry man but gonna hafta unsub. I'll still watch the videos but this is pretty gross.
2 likesExit scam hahaha
3 likesso you are just selling unregistered securities?
4 likesWho cares. Take your drama and bs stories and shove it.
0 likesYou are not the next Kubrick or Spielberg.
If your company is worth $10,000,000, then why did your partner settle for $500,000 for his %50 stake?
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$500,000 at 2.5% interest in quaterly payments until June 1st 2026 lmao
0 likesthis aint it chief
0 likesThis is a unsub for me lol
2 likesthis is such a big scam lmao
4 likesThis channel had 1.42M subs earlier today, and now it's down to 1.41M. I'm unsubscribing, and hopefully you do as well.
0 likesi'll give ya 6 bucks
1 likeIs this some kind of joke? ARG? Audience test?
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I hope
0 likeswelp this channel just went from a 10 to a 0, unsubbing
0 likesand thus capitalism reclaims another
4 likesi don’t understand why everyone hating on it so much, in essence it’s a go fund me with some POSSIBILITY that you might make back some money. Go back to your -100% Robinhood account and think about how much a better investment you made.
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Read into their finances, they're 500k in debt from buying 50% of the company from some other guy. They're using this funding just to pay debt, not to "grow the channel" like what was said in the video. It's just sad.
1 likeCan you just sell me your voice instead?
2 likesMan going crazy
1 likeFeel so good for this guy!! He started his channel and its going so well. 🤑🤑💵💸
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No, it really isn't.
12 likesHe is half a million in debt and this will be used to pay that off.
@Angel Fluff bro he’s being sarcastic look at the emojis haha
1 likeThis is a lot of big talk for a guy who owes 500,000$ and he doesn’t even directly say in this video that’s the reason why lolll. Hard pass.
1 likedamn thats sketchy
0 likesnfts... 2!!! (jumps and ode to joy plays)
1 likeAre we going to talk about the random appearance of Pathfinder from Apex Legends at 3:33?
0 likesLegit thought that you were going to become an NFT scammer lmao
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Nah he just found another shitty scam that fit his needs.
2 likesNo money ? 0_0 Lets scam people thats a good idea.
0 likesDude I love your videos but this is just sad and stupid
0 likesAnnnnnd time to unsub because you're misleading fans. Get stuffed bruh
2 likesMaghribi rak kain a sat 💖
0 likesPlease don't
1 likei was guessing this was coming, the production quality and length of the videos has gone down since the hight of the channel
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It hasn’t through. But he’s still scamming.
0 likes@Fidelio It has. Stop lying to yourself.
0 likes@Primm Slimm It hasn’t. The videos are better now than the VR trash he used to put out. Go back to sleep goon.
0 likes@Fidelio hahahaha keep consuming bad content and coping wee boy.
0 likes@Fidelio the reason i say that is because i likes the old visuals more than just a dude telling me a story script in hand
0 likesthe actual story is fine but the visuals are lacking
0 likes@Primm Slimm Keep on being a goon
0 likes@Mysical It depends, some of the videos still have this. It’s true some of them could have had visuals but he just chatted intro the camera.
0 likesSounds sketchy
2 likeswell i want to invest with crypto, can you make it possible? @Disrupt
0 likesA one time 100$?
3 likesOr reoccurring.
This is why YouTube should have never removed dislikes...
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I have the return youtube dislike chrome extension which you can get if you're not using mobile
0 likesThe video currently has 15683 likes 4808 dislikes
Please don't donate too this guy just too pay off debts
0 likesHell no, I'm out. See ya later.
0 likes1440p blurry a hell right now
1 likeNgl I got woried when I read the title
0 likesyou done goofed
0 likesGo ask Mr beast for some money
1 likeman what the hell happened
1 likewanted to buy 1k of shares after reading the financials and watching this channel for some time now, but the website you're using seems to block me because 'You can't complete your investment until you fill out your payment information', tried to refill the form 3 times :/
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update: seems like wefunder just doesn't like UK banking
3 likes466k of Jak's debt that will be paid off with your investment doesn't bother you? Your money, do whatever you want, but Jak doesn't present this investment honestly.
1 like@00FF00 if you read the terms, anything at this stage is just reserving the right to invest. Ill have more time to think about the remaining debt and how thats payed out from his earnings from the company later. Assuming he doesnt directly use funding to pay the debt and instead keeps the company going to make those 30k payments
0 likes@00FF00 id say he doesn't even hide that, considering the goal is the same as the 50%, buyout (500k)
0 likes@kacperrools He hides it from video, which is the thing that made people pledge $135k already to him. He should have mentioned it as the real reason. Instead, he obscures that fact and you won't see it unless you scroll to financial raport to the bottom of it. Why? Because if he told the truth, he would maybe get $10k. He is dishonest here.
0 likes@00FF00 I think if he just told the truth and started a fund people would give him a whack of the money. Maybe not all, but h could get some of it.
0 likes@Fidelio It would be somewhat fair if he sold half of the company to investors at valuation of 1M, where he would own half and the rest would own the other half.
0 likesI thought the video was cool and the comments section took me off guard
0 likesthis ain't it
0 likesAre you kidding me lol
0 likeswhy do i feel like this whole thing is gunna be the next disupt video L0L
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same
0 likesWoah dude. Way to crash your channel and upset your fans
0 likesI think u should share ur statistics and shit otherwise ur valuation is crazy
0 likesLooks like a Plan B pal
1 likebuys 100%
0 likesStunning
0 likeswhy would anyone want to own a percentage of a channel that puts out such a miniscule amount of content? like one ten min video a month maybe lol
0 likesOh no :(
1 likeU cant sell channels lol thats against the TOS this gets you banned
4 likesbruh moment
2 likesThis is very sketchy, financially stupid overall, and makes like no sense. I genuinely don't follow what your actual gameplay with this is. It just seems super sketchy, you can fund and do plenty using other means than strange business tactics. It's a shame too, because your channel has such high production and entertainment value and then you do this. I'm split because I love this channels content, but this decision is odd. If you need money, just ask for money directly. I understand if you have maybe debts to pay or something, and I'm sure if you just asked your community for assistance through donations while providing content you could achieve your financial goals without harming your integrity with such a risky investment. Hell even Patreon would be a more respectable means, since you could then offer incentives. It would be a product instead of an investment. 10% of a YouTube channel has 0 value in terms of investment, considering the unstable nature of independent media production under the umbrella of another corporation. Let alone the idea that owning a partial small share in a channel literally does nothing for the investor. It only takes YouTube messing up with it's stupid copyright system once to deplatform someone..
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I recommend everyone dislike and report for spam/misleading because honestly this video is very misleading. He fails to mention may of the risks actually involved. Rest in peace this channel. I hope you keep the page archived after your company gets nuked off the Earth.
1 likelmaoo pathfinder the boy
0 likesAlright, I'll bite.
0 likesSo wen token
This is cool and all but can you just give it to me?
0 likesOh the misery
0 likesWhy do you need funding? wheres your youtube money?
1 likeHoney wake up, disrupt NFT just dropped
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Honey wake up, we just recived our annual $0.02 disrupt tv dividends
3 likes@Chewi This is you and your honey at 65 years of age, if this channel isn't cancelled out of existence by then lol.
0 likesSo just another pyramid scheme. nice
1 likeEnjoy your unsubs pal :DDD
2 likesSketchy.
2 likesthis doesnt sit right
1 likeWithin 5 seconds, you admit that the title is pure clickbait...
7 likesBug off...
Oh fuck, where's the chill?
0 likesThere is none.
Just join Nebula, this is weird.
I don't know about this one...
1 likeo lawd he messed up
0 likesoh no Jak is becoming a sellout
0 likesWhat a hilarious idea
4 likesImmediate unsub.
4 likesi dont understand anything people are saying in the comments. i wanna support the channel but not like this. im really sorry. :(
0 likesya done goofed
2 likesim so fuecked watching this tf is going om haha
0 likesCash grab if I’ve ever seen one 😂
3 likesYo this is cringe af, i didnt sub for you to try and make a ponzi scheme of your channel
5 likesEmergency meeting
2 likesstop scamming
0 likesyeah, no.
2 likesI got about tree fiddy.
1 likeI’m good!!!
2 likesIs this real
0 likesHow can we invest if his camera quality is crap
0 likesI have no words
2 likeswhat pathfinder doing in your vid xD
0 likes100k in one hour
0 likesDo you have a patrion?
1 likeThis seems really sketchy, You did keep changing the thumbnail of that one video and re-uploading it many times. Also the direction has gone away from virtuality drastically. It’s not really the same as it was anymore.
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I think the new videos are way better than the virtual stuff, doesn't get enough views to justify a whole channel around it. Howwver, i agree with the sentiment that hes a bit click baitey and keeps chasing views.
0 likes@Fidelio They be riding it really hard and long if you catch my drift. I personally was a fan of the virtual reality videos. That being said they don’t get that many views and I got to be honest about that. Someone else said it in the comments but this feels like a “Logan Paul“ type of scenario scheme.
1 like@Israel Davila I liked soem of them, but i do like the new docs also. I don't understand why he doesn't find simpler ways to make money like sponsors and patreon etc. He always has to be 'clever' in how he does things, that morally superior "we don't do that kind of stuff here" bs. instead of patreon this guy wnats to get us to join some metaverse bs.
1 likeHey critical, whats up lil homie, big fan
0 likesThis us a scam yeah.
1 likePogo <3
0 likesWow next level rip off haha see ya
0 likesThis whole thing seems sketchy. Despite all of the flashy imagery shown, it just feels empty and corporate more than anything.
8 likesso we can invest in your channel????
0 likesDamn :/
0 likes6:40 as someone called oliver in london i think this is a sign
0 likesSick DUUde""!!!!
0 likesThe views are in my eyes not high enough to make a profitable investement off.
3 likesIt costs half a million dollars to buy 20% of the revenue your video's make.
Social blade assumes that you make 81k maximum each year.
Lets say that socialblade is off by 700% (times 7), than you get 567k each year.
When we take 20% of that 567k in total that you get we get 113k each year.
To get all of our money back from the investement (500k) we will have to wait 5 years.
It only counts the income stays the same.
Also in Januari 2021, you can see in socialblade that the disrupt channel get 340k subscribers in ONE month.
And normally they get around 60k subscribers.
This is VERY suspicious!!!
That is a long time, and it is including that social blade is off by a factor of SEVEN.
This might be a very bad investment!!
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this man doesnt get even close to that. his vids dont get ads
2 likes@Eww Oppp They do
1 likebeautifully produced campaign - definitely looking forward to invest
0 likesThe rap style best was ok
0 likesbro just open a patreon or something are you high
0 likesNO TF YOU ARE NOTTTTTT
1 likeif i do will you make a rendering of me?
0 likesstill the best youtuber of 2022, $4 a stock is better then a shit coin
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or buy neither and keep your money lol.
1 likeThis channel is dead as of today, it's never gonna be worth 10.7 mil. anyone who invests in this is a laughing stock
no stonks 🤓
0 likesDon’t don’t don’t
1 likeWhy not just use a patreon lol? This sounds sketch af
5 likesidk about this one chief
0 likesDid you get hacked?
1 likeSketchy and bad investment
0 likesIs that Pogo music?
0 likesno, just no
0 likesNice, scamming people now. Unsubbed.
0 likesThis just became the #1 channel on the platform by a landslide
0 likesThis is sad
1 likestocks or something
0 likesDid the past year in crypto teach us nothing? This is super sus
0 likesWhy is your balance sheet so scummy looking. You don’t even talk about that you bought out one of your investors. Why? You just want idiots to invest that won’t do their due diligence like a proper investor can.
1 likeIs this sarcasm? I can't honestly tell
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As shown in previous videos of dark web market exit scams happen short time frame and don't last long (snatch and grab) if they are closed down it's for other reasons. What I'm saying I'm sure that's not what they plan to do.
0 likesNice
0 likesWalmart brand LEMMiNO
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Not really. What an edgy comment.
0 likes@Fidelio Dudes content has always been a pretentious tryhard version of Lemmino. Channel has oozed scumbag energy prior to this anyways, so it's not shocking.
0 likes@Skyclad Observer In some ways I agree, but he’s nothing like lemmino. It’s such a wack comment to read mate. Literally everyone copies lemmino so what’s your point? It’s just such an overused comment that’s says precisely nothing. I agree with you about the scumbag energy bit, I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees that.
0 likesman you fell off!
0 likescool man.
0 likesScammy af
1 likedamn, unsubscribing for this manipulative scheme.
2 likesI will be contributing on payday, thank you for the opportunity!
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dont do it! I'm assuming since you have to wait for ur pay day that you aren't rich. check the other comments. this is a scam to pay off his debt and you won't gain any $$ from it not even in the future
4 likesI got $10,000 to invest but I want to talk to you directly and discuss terms!
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@The Bookey that why I said discuss terms I wouldn't ever give even a dollar to the terms he has now he sold half is channel for $500,000 now he is trying to sell us 10% for the same $500,000
0 likesThis guy has gotta be one of the pillars of youtube, I'm the community will support you through anything you decide to do.
3 likesoh eww no thanks
0 likesCommenting for the algorithm
0 likesSTOP STOP STOP STOP STOP
1 likeThis is a joke, Unsubed
1 likeSuper sketch
0 likesSheeesshhh smells fishy here
1 likeIs this a deep fake? Is the channel hijacked?
0 likes50 cents take it or leave it
3 likeslmao bro took down his pinned comment
0 likesIs this some kind of joke?
0 likesno just no
1 likeAWWWWWW NAHHHH 💀💀💀💀
0 likesOr not.
Why?
0 likesVery disappointed
0 likesnah, this is lame
1 likethis is sketchy
0 likes:(
1 likeThis is ur page too? I had no IDEA
0 likesOh hell naw
1 likedamn unsub time
1 likeYeah unsubscribed lmao
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Edgy
0 likesThe metaverse will become part of everyday life in the future. Those with the skills and knowledge that are familiar with the workings behind the scenes will have a huge advantage in the industry. Many companies will want to be part of the metaverse and will hire other smaller companies like Distrup.
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The meta verse is nonsense.
5 likesIt's a futurology philosophy channel, not anything concrete.
5 likesThis is alot of negative and very specific responces in a VERY small amount of time..
1 likeMy immediate assumption is that this appears to be evidence that someone folded through intimidation and that source of intimidation had an orchestrated cadre of very informed johns deploy the instant the public was made aware of its proposal to survive..
I've seen alot of things and have been online since 01..
I've never seen anything like this..
I thought you were different...
0 likesWhat the fuck???
0 likesThis is sketchy as fuck.
Bro no please
0 likesScam!
0 likesstonks
1 likeLove
0 likesRIP Bozo 👎🏻😹👎🏻
4 likesWow
0 likesSorry but this sounds like a terrible deal, go make a gofundme or patron or something instead what ever this is
1 likeStonks
0 likesholy shit, i remember watching this channel in its earlier days. id invest if i had the money, i'll respect you wherever you take this channel.
3 likesMan this must be a good announcement because there aren't any dislikes, RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT?
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Only 3.7 dislikes
0 likes@saint 3.7k
0 likesHe lost subscribers
0 likeshope it all works out, but not for me! GL to everyone who gets involved
1 likeWelp fuck this place lmao
1 likeI’ll take your entire stock
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I’ll take it
0 likesnoooo don't
0 likesbad move homeslice
0 likesUnsubscribing… If you don’t have respect for your subscribers, how do you expect them to have respect for you. I haven’t enjoyed an upload from this channel in 8 months but this is flat out disrespectful and shows how you view us… as moneybags to sap however you can
0 likesjust invest in bitcoin
1 likeWhat a joke.
1 likeSounds like a win win to me I know
2 likesPeople are having doubt on the Investment idea of his but think about it this way invest 100 have a chance to make more money as well as help this Channel with the already amazing quality this channel is,
-Im a game Developer and it amazes me this guy uses Unreal Engine to create photo
realistic content and scenes Voice lines amazing lighting etc just for his YouTube channel.
Any smart person should know that he is probably in the hole in terms of money for this channel because of the amount of money He spends on his developers to make this possible.
I think that he deserves more appreciation and I seriously doubt he's doing all this just to pay off debts though im sure that part of it
He is a a passionate creator who doesn't mind losing money just to create amazing Production Tripple A quality.
He deserves more subscribers
After
Reading alot of the comments a lot of you mentioned that you lost respect for him because of this sketchy idea he came up with
Im sure a lot of you would benefit greatly by critiquing him and evaluating him on what to improve
I hope that one day I can be as inspirational and as good of a game Developer and content creator as disrupt
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You’ll make $100 in 30 years with this garbage
2 likes@Call me Zelda ONE moar time so then it's basically a donation just deal with it and be smart
1 likeThis is so stupid😂😂
1 likeYikes.
1 likerare Disrupt L
0 likesNo just no.
0 likesYou sound just like the guy from Barely Sociable. Aren't you acquainted?
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I think they are, barley also won’t like this vid. He investigates scams. Plus he’s friends with coffeezilla too.
0 likesJesus Christ, what a mess
0 likesoh man
1 likeTo everyone:
0 likesYes they should’ve mentioned how they need to pay back an ex-partner first, but mentioning that could look really bad on them. Even if they pay back this partner, the production will keep on growing and keep on getting better, not worse.
If they are unable to pay back this partner, they could go into a legal battle bringing the quality down even more and we could lose DisruptTV completely. Honestly we have to see both sides.
I can understand why people are upset they didn’t mention this, but at the same time “investing” is more like a charitable donation, but at the same time you get a small voice in the channel and get something out of it. From this the production can keep on increasing as time continues.
What the hell is this dude I didn't subscribe for this
0 likesLost respect
0 likesI think the music choice was terrible
0 likesUn'subbed and blocked from recommending, enjoy the dead channel list, you're done.
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That won’t do anything. You’ll still get recommended. No no none even cares anyway. Just unsub and be done with it.
0 likes@Fidelio commenting won't do anything, I don't get recommendations afterwards.
0 likesNo one cares anyway, just scroll past and be done with it, herp derp.
Sorry, but... Unsubscribed.
2 likeslol.
0 likeslmao even.
Don’t scare us like that lmao
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https://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
0 likesFinally its here.
Lets be honest we all enjoyed this video by having this:
1 likehttps://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
I like your pfp
0 likesYoo midnight gospel
0 likes.
0 likes❤Only for fans over 18 year⤵️
0 likesAlles sehr schön. Aber zuerst zusammen die Nummern 10 und 1. Eine Close-Up.Online Brünette und eine andere Blondine. Es wäre unfair, wenn ich 4 wählen würde,
wow
0 likesWhat the fuck is this. I'm disappointed.
1 likeWait what
0 likesYikes
3 likesweird move man, not a fan
0 likeswhelp. unsubbed
0 likesyeah… bye
0 likesOh no.
0 likesGreat idea , hyped to see if this become a regular thing on youtube
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https://youtu.be/i4gIqgtBXJU
0 likesFinally its here.
Lets be honest we all enjoyed this video by having this:
1 likehttps://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
Nahhh bruh this model is going to lead to crazy artificial inflation of any channel which uses this
26 likesIf this catches on then its going to be the next nft
1 like@Sarls It will catch on, we already know its the next grift
0 likes@Fidelio sadly true, that might not even be the intent of this channel but they're setting an awful precedent, its basically getting people to be patreons BEFORE the video is made
2 likesNO
0 likes🤨
0 likesI'm out.
0 likesAnit noone going to buy this crap
1 likeGood
0 likes😬
0 likesPlease say sike...
0 likesif i had the money to spend i would :(
0 likesThis sketch af. Boo disrupt, boo.
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Fr
0 likesAlthough this is sad, at least it is better for him and his company. Hopefully this means that he'll make alot better content.
4 likesAnnnnnd unsubscribed.
3 likesdude dont..
0 likesweird. so weird
0 likesBabes you do you
0 likesAll I want is for you to keep the good work you’re doing, wish for the best!
0 likesJust keep the amazing content flowing and no complaints will be made from me, don’t let it stray you from your beauty please.
1 likethis is super unique, I feel like even if you don't originally get many starting investors, the attention this will bring to your channel will help fund it.
0 likesThis is something I can't do, I'm too scared to do anything with stocks sorry. Best of luck though!
1 likeSounds like what you are describing is 100% a security… I’d consult an attorney on this.
2 likesI was worried at first.. but then I saw that you guys wanted to grow and provide more jobs for your own crew in the disrupt family.
1 likeThat's admirable and I honestly and from the heart wish everyone success.
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If you read their financial statement, all $500K of this “investment” is going towards a $500K promissory note that they defaulted on.
6 likesThis isn’t an actual investment in the channel/people. It’s paying off their bad debt.
i dont think having shareholders is a good idea, given what it seems to lead to
2 likesWe'll see how this goes, but this seems super suspect.
1 likeCan you legally do a YouTube IPO ? Also, if this business model is actually working as well as you state in the end of the video, then you wouldn’t need the capital from us viewers to avoid the need to restructure. This doesn’t seem tk adding up
0 likesJust open a patreon or make an actual company that can be traded without the weird back door deals
1 likeMan this sucks, I would have like to invest in your channel, however, WeFunder seems to block users in my province from investing. I still enjoy your content and wish you guys great success!
1 likeJust put in a hundred bucks I like supporting content creators when they do creative things.
0 likesIdk of you guys care not but if you're next step up was $500 instead of a thousand I would have put in 500.
why arent you just taking your company to be publicly traded. what you're doing seems like the typical way people get scammed in pyramid / MLM schemes. there's a reason the stock market exists. it's regulated (although no where near perfect) and the way business is meant to be done. Not some "trust us with your money and we'll make sure to give you a share of the profits".
1 likeI like investing in different things. 100 is a smaller investment and with how much YouTubers can make, this seems more than worth it to me. Count me in!
0 likesWhy not patreon for funding? Then become a publicly traded company? This seems like a nightmare with taxes for investors with multiple government problems without proper legal paperwork of said established company. YouTube alone will probably shut you down since this channel belongs to them not you legally.
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The campaign is a desperate attempt to pay off a $500,000 debt that the creator is in - other funding options would not solve this quickly enough it seems. The details are linked on the campaign page, in their financials document. None of the money is going towards growing the Disrupt brand.
1 likenot even the future is as futuristic as this channel
0 likesWe"ll look in to it.
0 likesthe desperation is crazy. 1.5 mill subs isnt enough for him
0 likesSure, the lifetime subscription at 100usd makes it worth it to me anyway, even if I'm hesitant on the rest of it.
0 likesDo share holders have any say in the channel content/stories covered?
0 likesKinda feels like exxit scam, just because their disrupt,id domain is for sale.....
2 likeslove the idea but it doesn’t feel like it adds up perfectly :/
2 likesAlright, that "buck" bit was really clever.
1 likeGotta be honest does seem a little suspect
0 likesBut eh it's your channel do what you want
This doesn’t sound great. If this is real, I hope the best for you, but it seems a little fishy. Only time will tell.
1 likeFor anyone who is curious you can see their 20-21 financials at the very bottom of the wefunder page
1 likeYou guys could start selling merch but anyways the YouTube algorithm ism being nice to channel
0 likesI'm willing to give 3$ and a 10pc McNuggets box.
0 likesYou bring great content, as a wefunder do we get access to disrupt plus? Your great content says to join the team, I am in!
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Yup
0 likesIts time i start saving for this
0 likes1000 shares is 0.01% of the company? that is 1 million shares. $100 per 23 shares makes for 4,3 million dollars for the 10% of the company.
1 likeIs this alright within the bounds of YouTube ToS even? This is pretty sus either way, especially w/ those financials.
0 likes3:37 the pathfinder model goes crazy💀☠
1 likeIs their a VR media example you can presently share with us that your team has made?
0 likesInteresting. At least you're being public about it
0 likesNice save, that could have gotten you banned
0 likesDisrupt trying to turn from YouTube vid to Disney+
1 likeThe last channel you would think would do this lolz
2 likesSo if I buy the 23 shares & you lot don't reach your goal & decide to go down path A, what happens to those 23 shares?
0 likesDisrupt, I absolutely love your channel but this sounds kinda scetch. Sounds almost desperate...
2 likesSounds like this youtube channel is becoming a public company
1 likeThe animations look like Diablo 2 cinematics.
2 likesJUST INVESTED $200 OF MY HARD-EARNED MONEY, FOR ONE OF MY FAVORITE PROJECTS EVER ON THE INTERNET! CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU ALL ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE WITH OUR HELP! ;)
0 likesIf I could afford to lose a hundo you'd have it but I'm eating stale hash browns I got for free from a restaurant whose owner likes me in the trailer I live in so to me that's a whole hell of a lot of money
0 likesMaybe I should invest into Disrupt? hmmm...
1 likeit aint pay day yet so got to be pacient here
0 likesi am drunk and ready to buy
1 likeOne hell of a scam lol
1 likenah this shit seems sus tbh
2 likesi mean invest if you want but i wouldnt expect coming out of it with a profit
That's a yikes from me dawg
1 likeOkey ima take a loan and buy all of it
1 likethat was a wholesome clickbait
0 likesFor anyone thinking about it this is an awful idea
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They keep saying the whole video that them being unconventionally far away like it's a good thing just because it's not normal? Also there isn't going to be a "metaverse", and if there was why would there be a content gap? Aren't there like a billion vr companies now?
1 likethings that make you say “hmmmm”
1 likeThat's a sad ending for this channel
4 likesThis is the future
0 likesI just invested $100 but treating it more like a donation at this point for the quality content put out. I’ll think about $1k once I can see the proof of concept fully executed.
2 likesI believe in this vision and it’s a genius idea although the existing financial information I see makes me think its gonna not generate the intended ROI. I’d love for more channels to invest my time/$$$ into. Could easily be the new stocks game.
Good luck Disrupt!
"toss them some doe"
1 likeidk this feels too sus to me. sorry, i don't trust this at all. just boost a Patreon, guys. that's at least a little less sus than this.
1 likeI thought the channel got hacked
1 likeI’m sorry but an over $10 million valuation is absolutely fucking absurd
1 likeAnyone with a few hundred bucks would do better trading real stocks with real dividends, I expect. Love the channel, but it's not worth $10m
1 likeIdc just enjoy the money (:
1 likeIs there a limit?
0 likesI don't know if I support this, it just looks, sounds and feels super sketchy, and this means you value your company at over 10M$, which just doesn't seem true at all.
3 likesSorry but I don't want to support this.
Sounds like a scam dude
1 likeliterally NFTs
2 likesDoes Path A mean we get better videos? I would love for that!
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If he is able to get 500k he will pay off debt that he took on by buying back half of equity in the company. If he gets more than that, he could spend more on better videos.
0 likes@00FF00 I see, just read coffezillas comment, all seems kinda sus, no?
1 like@ekzit Jak is intentionally misleading people so that they put money into his company. Technically all of the information is there, but it's not well visible.
0 likesI thought those AI voice was talking 💀
0 likesUsed apex's pathfinder we all know respawn won't mind 😎
0 likesWe are gonna get you to the goal so fast 🤣🤙💪🙏
0 likesLove the content!
Bra. it soulds like a pyramid scheme, but its probably not lol
1 likeDisrupt I’ll give you 50k
1 likeSeems like a cash grab
1 likeBruh I love this channel so much that I wanna buy shares. This channel is 🔥👍
0 likesThis is really sketchy.
2 likesalso the language is fucking weird - its got "were gonna colonize the metaverse" energy. this is targeted to crypto-bros who are reeling in the market crash and want to feel like "innovators" by investing in something
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Cold hard facts.
0 likesmy man reinvented nfts
1 likewhy is pathfinder from Apex legends in this video i feel like that isn't legal
0 likesSounds dubious at best.
1 likelove the videos, make the best choice :))
1 likeI think it's a ballsy move to take this on as a small indie studio. But you guys are great at making things long banger! Easily the best visuals on youtube that I am aware of. I think you have a chance of pulling this off!
2 likeshere at 29k views, do what u wanna do man.
2 likeshow did i get a notification for this? i’m not even subscribed
0 likes6:44 does kane pixels work with u guys?
0 likesIt sucks that I cant invest from canada
0 likesWell I’m investing 1k
1 likebetter than buying PayPal
1 likeI don’t believe this is a scam like a lot of people are saying in the comments here, but I’m not sure I’d invest $100 towards this. $100 for one share seems like a lot, but I know absolutely nothing about stocks.
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Actually each share is about $4.34 but you can only invest $100 at minimum
1 likeI’m in
0 likesI saw this, can could not believe.
0 likesNO! (Oh wait, I got too scared.)
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Lmao u believed clickbait 🤣🤣🤣
2 likes@Oscar I trust this channel.
0 likesCompany eval’d at $10mil? Yeah, right.
2 likesThis is a certified hood classic.
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1 likehttps://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
1 likeFinally its here YES
@IcattErr* nope.
0 likes@Emotional D bot
0 likes@Envy oh-
0 likeswow another scammer
1 likeYeah… umm 🤔 why is the buck stuttering though
0 likesNOOOO!!!
0 likesBro just use Patreon
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Exactly.
3 likescant invest in canada ? rip
0 likesI’m a huge support or your production and brand but what do I get out of this investment, other then crowd funding a creator I support. At what point are you going to give an investor breakdown
1 likeI have been watching this for about half a year now, im sure that this channel will keep growing. Your content is easilly one of the most original content on this platform. Id love to see this grow further and further. Id invest into you myself if werent broke
1 likeYour story telling and growth strategy is just simply amazing
I'm investing $50,000. How much equity would I get? And I need some statistics. How much does your channel make per year? Do you have a platform to send your channel into the mainstream besides YouTube? Will I make profit or even get my $50K back? Thank you, and please respond.
2 likesJesus, I panicked when I saw that title.. Hmm, maybe I'll chip in-
1 likeAnyone else have trouble with the wefunder app?
0 likesWhen I try to login it just shuts the app down.
It may be beginning of a wall street of the YouTube!!
1 likeVery excited about this
0 likesPathfinder looking bot at around 3:55? The ai thing talking to the character looking a bit like pathy from apex tbh
0 likesLove your content
i smell something and its not a pleasant odor
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I have to hard agree. a part of me seemed interested but honestly it just seems like a fancy way of asking for donations. I doubt the return is going to be good at all.
4 likes@Giraffe Burgers Or if any of the “investors” will ever see anything at all
0 likesCool af
0 likesMan those scams really get sophisticated and believable nowadays.
5 likesPls don’t
0 likesFun fact, no one here finished the video yet
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same
0 likesIs this new scam
0 likesI feel like I've been clickbaited.
4 likesthe same 3/4 bots are commenting on every comment
0 likesthis bot epidemic has become basically a digital pandemic
just invested $100, id invest more but cant afford it. im excited to see where this channel goes :)
1 likeI'll buy all the 10% if I am able to, before the deadline. I'm working on a few things that may bring in 4-5 figures in the coming weeks or months. Hard to say when. Count me in
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😂😂😂😂I’m sure
1 likeA top teir chanel.
0 likesPyramid scam unsubscribed.
1 likeAt the moment, SEC laws do not permit me to specifically state where the money will be allocated. I can, however, share the following:
355 likesA) My plans for the company should the campaign be successful: feature films, shows, VR
B)The company's current financials, shown on the campaign page
C) What Disrupt's prior member is owed
Should the campaign be successful, I can continue stewarding the company on the same track that we have been laying down. Should the campaign fail, the company will be restructured, meaning I will no longer be a majority decision maker on Disrupt as a whole.
I am happy to answer questions on the WeFunder questions page.
- Jak
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28 likesEdit: damn this was based on lies...
<3
3 likesi feel like a deer rn
8 likesi like this idea. much better than having a patreon imo
10 likesDon't read my name..!!!!!
1 like@Limitless Entertainment™️ No it isn't. It makes no sense.
67 likes@IDG Music disrupt was actually deer simulator all along
3 likes@Fidelio really nigga
3 likesCongratulations!!🎉🎈🍾
63 likesyou discovered a pyramid scheme with extra steps
NFTs are next
@Limitless Entertainment™️ Its a scam you goon.
30 likes@really nigga No i'm beige.
4 likes@Fidelio 🤡🤡🤡
1 like@Limitless Entertainment™️ really insecure attack on someone smarter than you
2 likesmr beats makes better bidoes
2 likes@mrbeast fan yes "mr beats" my favorite youtuber
8 likes@Barret Saphire Keep coping
4 likesMain guy working there took a $500k loan and now can't pay it back. This crowdfunding is there to pay his legal fees and pay back the loan that Jak defaulted on. Read financial statements. It's a trap.
40 likesThe lack of a substantial business plan is extremely concerning for any serious investors. Your business plan encompasses a brief one to two pages: typically, the summary alone is one page.
19 likes@00FF00 Damn really? This channel is gonna be the subject of YouTube documentaries 5 years down the road. I would have more respect if he just did a gofundme instead to riding the get rich quick investor wave
25 likes@00FF00 they also value themselves at over 9 million dollars 🤣🤣 way over valued lol
15 likesGood luck with this new project :) The content has always been top quality, i hope you get good results from this and you can continue making your content same quality as before!
1 likecause im living in germany and i only have a debit card i cant invest...
1 like@UMADBRO ImaTroll it's actually over 43 million dollars apparently
1 like@Qwerteria they take debit cards but it's basically a donation and they should take away any idea it being an investment and getting returns
0 likes@Pompshuffle i cant type in the bic of my card
0 likesI want to but I live in alberta and thus are unable to use the platform
1 like@mrbeast fan Beast*
1 likeDont do it
5 likesratio
4 likesWould love to help with VO work
1 likeYou got this
1 likeread cofeezillas response..
3 likesHAHAHAHAHAA
2 likesDisrupt grew on innovative content and unique video ideas, but in this case a good old-fashioned Patreon or even just opening donations, if explained the reason, would probably be better than this investment shtick
3 likesYou've gotta realize this won't do any good for the channel and yourself, and probably will only bury you and the channel deeper with the unanimously bad reception.
@IIOII completely agreed. this is probably the only circumstance where i would endorse a patreon or similar subscriber-centric content delivery system. this is a horrible if not borderline illegal financial proposal
1 likeHow could you ...
0 likesThe point of disrupt+ was to be the Patreon, obviously that wasn't planning out. Either open up donations or restructure but don't use the language of an "investment"
1 like@mrbeast fan love that producer, best in the underground and underrated imo
0 likes@Don't Read My Profile Photo i won't
0 likesIsn't legal advice illegal unless you actually have a degree
0 likesA little late for an April Fool's joke.
0 likesWe would rather donate than be mislead.
0 likes@eCodex 2.0 Tbf with patreon you tubers need to do it to make money. I get what you mean though.
0 likesLove how u changed the pin comment to taking down the link that allows for more transparency and than unpinned so we can't easily find ur edit ....this is a big L
0 likesInteresting
1 likeYou'll regret this later when youre at 10 million subs and dont get to keep all of it. I suggest you get an extra job and ride the storm out. instead of doing all the hard work for someone else
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He could just get a patreon etc. Donations, whatever.
2 likesI would pay you 100 usd to teach me how to edit like you bro.
3 likesThis idea was something I’ve been floating with big YouTubers and gaming companies for a few years now. I really like this idea that even as a consumer your time is not being wasted. By investing in an entity such as “Disrupt” you get to watch your favorite content while also making yourself more money for each view. Everyone makes money, everyone is happy.
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Scam you fool. You took the bait.
0 likesSmart
0 likes😂
0 likesGood way to get your subs down
0 likesi played runescape, dont think I dont know what youre doing
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😂
0 likesunsubbed. started getting weird when u guys kept changing title and thumbnail on that one video. couldn't even tell u what it was cuz it was changed so much.
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Hes been doing that for ages. Seems like a petty as fuck reason to unsub though.
0 likes@Fidelio well personally i haven't been as involved in the videos as usual. that along with trying to use this instead of patreon just doesnt feel right
1 like@Jack Marston Yeah i agree with you partially, he's quite annoying and chases clickbait and seems like someone who pretends he's forthcoming, but i think his documentaries are still amazing. Apparently he bought out the other founder for 500k and he needs the money to pay him but doesn't want to just tell us that and crowdfund. Why has he got to make it some sort of prertentious shit that it isn't? You can buy a piece of the channel, ie i need money to pay the other owner to keep the channel alive.
0 likesI'm under 18 so I can't invest but I wish you the best in this venture!
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https://youtu.be/mCfYi7634rU
1 likeFinally its here YES
Wait i can't invest under 18?
0 likes@EM you can get a trusted family member/friend to do it for you then possibly transfer ownership of shares once you turn 18.
1 like@EM yea you can I’m 15 and just invested $100
0 likes@The Supreme Mustache It's not legal...
0 likesSo basically a partially community owned channel, very interesting idea. This channel makes great content and I hope this allows more to happen, good day to you all.
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Would be an alright idea if you could put in a relatively small amount of money in small content creators that have talent and a bright future ahead of them who need equipment upgrades. Not in already 1 million subs channels.
0 likesExcept it isn't, you don't own anything. You're only entitled to a portion of the net income (and who knows what income that the manager decides to disclose).
2 likesscammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! Hes on that FAZE clan shit dont trust him!!!!
0 likesReminds me of those NFT concepts but done better
4 likes*Turns on camera with extremely low quality* "Hi uh we're selling 10% of our channel"
0 likes*Proceeds to show the most high quality insane renders you've ever seen on youtube*
Wait what.?
0 likesNo thank you, unsubbed.
3 likesI'll give this a try when I get paid Monday. Thank you for all your great content regardless.
1 likeI have never heard of a YouTube channel's stock.
I've been subscribed for years as Shadow Gaming. This is my other account.
I'm curious if you are ever in need of a Web Developer?
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Mate you can't afford it.
0 likes@Radon Racing I can. I already know the financial report isn't looking good. But I would like to support him regardless.
1 likeMaybe after he pays the $500K debt off we will see more of what he mentions in the video. What are your thoughts on this?
@Austin Spraggins 5+ yrs is a very long time.
1 likeMy real point is that you can't even consider any future return - if one isn't willing to send even the minimum instantly AND be content if the channel disappeared tomorrow it's not for you. Very fair so many mentions of a scam because it really is plea for charity with the appearance of some actual reciprocal value to the donor.
Best of luck though whatever you do 🙂
@Radon Racing Thanks for the feedback. While I really enjoy his content and have for a long time, I have decided to wait and see what happens.
1 likeWow
0 likesWow
0 likesyou do you big boi all the best from the youtubes
0 likesidk, this feels so much like just another nft-metaverse-rugpull type deal....
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Boomer mindset
2 likesEdit: nft is just art, which only has value because people say it has value. Media content (youtube, netflix, you name it) has a fanbase. Those people make that platform a community. That's why a single youtuber that makes videos for a living can live off of youtube alone. I'm not sure how you can be so ignorant to compare art to something that not only has actual monetary value, but also has a community behind it as well.
Lmao. I can't imagine how they would be able to rug pull this
1 likecrowd follower doesn't think for himself
0 likes@Dogald Trump says the guy involved in politics
1 like@Jay If you think NFT’s are “just art” then you might be too young to even consider having an opinion on investing. NFT’s partially were, and still are, mostly money laundering schemes.
1 likestonks
0 likesBruh 💀
0 likeseverybody is investing until somebody buys up most if not all shares of </disrupt> and basically owns the entirety of the channel.
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They are only selling 10%. no one can buy the entire channel unless they wanted to sell it to someone.
4 likesMoney,Money,Money.....
3 likesNothing else.
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Legit turn into a channel about VR and some cool other stuff, right into another corporate cash grab.
0 likesYeah right. I'll give you zero. Keep on making free content for all I care. There is no shortage of entertainment.
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Weirdo
0 likes@MandoMacho "Why pay for things when you get them free?"
1 like@MandoMacho
1 likeHow many shares will there be, how will they proof the shares, and how will they proof the revenue? From what I can see it's just a "trust me bro" investment project. Very dubious.
This feels like a joke, hope you are ok.
7 likesPathfinder oh no no.
0 likesDude, This is dumb.
0 likesScam.
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I think they might be doing this genuinely, like even if it's a bad idea they aren't actually intending to scam people (even if that is indeed what they're doing). Lack of foresight is sometimes just as dangerous as malice.
0 likesas long as its not a crypto or nft related thing I'm fine with it
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It's not too different.... A project that needs money with an outrageous goal and a bunch of people that want to jump on the hype
6 likes@The Bookey
0 likesYeah, you're probably right... 🗿
Dis some shady shit
0 likesbro💀
0 likeswow. the internet is... a beautiful thing.
1 likeget that bag homie.
cool
0 likesUhhhh?
2 likesbro this animation and graphics are soo trash like it looks like you comissionned those unreal engine scenes through fiver jesus, it looks like one of my game projects after 2 days
0 likesClassic legal acam
0 likesWHAT
0 likesLmao disrupt is making a pyramid scheme
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How tf is this anything like a pyramid scheme?
0 likes@SysKey It's a bit of a scam but not a pyramid scheme, investors aren't gonna be recruiting others into giving their money. There isn't gonna be a multi leveled structure of ownership or anything.
0 likes@Dom Yea, i thought you were meant to recruit others
0 likesfor a second, i completely freaked out and lost all respect for you. but then i realized what you mean. honestly this is way better than actually selling the entire channel to some sort of commenting scam operation.
0 likesI'm only buying because of the deer.
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Do yourself a favour and don't buy anything, please
0 likes@Vittorio Malnati , you're not a deer. I'm not going to listen to you.
0 likes@Žïřçøņ it's a scam. save ur money
0 likes@Žïřçøņ what's funny about that clip is that it literally makes potential "investors" look like animals. That deer frankly has no clue about what he's getting into. This is one of the dumbest targeted mass scams in the history of youtube
1 likeIf you didnt plan on investing then why spend time telling others not to and that the evaluation is too high? Major motion pictures spend 10x that on a single film... This video might only be valuable information to 5% of viewers. Why not just root for a future with Disrupt. Its crowdfunding.
2 likesNooo
3 likesJust wish you could invest less than $100 id gladly invest £50
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It’d be like throwing £50 in the bin
0 likes@crush why’s that?
0 likes@Harrison B It says on the website that you should expect a return of cents for years to come and from the looks of it the company is about $460k in debt right now with a 2.5% interest. With $50 you’d be lucky to make a penny for many years to come.
0 likeslmao
0 likes100dolars.........i Will be a trilionairte..............Surely
0 likesDon't know how to react
0 likesUnsubscribed bye bye
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Cringe
0 likesLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
0 likeswassup with the camera quality
1 likeok bye
2 likesUNSUB.
0 likesOkay that's really cool. I don't think I saw anyone do this before. Will be investing in disrupt for sure
3 likeslucky
0 likesYeah, but naah
1 likeThat's really cool!! This is forward thinking more people should think about
1 likeSadly, I do not have $100 usd at the moment. I would 100% buy shares to invest in the future of this company because I enjoy the content put out and the amount of work that goes into it. I think by the time I have money to spare, the time to invest will be lost.
1 likeWhy
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I mean, watch the video?
8 likesWell, you didn't watch the video yet, Adam
4 likesGood question. Never seen a YouTuber literally sell out before, but here we are.
1 like@Sidis X i cant, its bug
0 likes@Top Secret did u even watch the video?
2 likesEdgy editing and upbeat background music does not deserve viewer investment XD
2 likestryna cash in, are ya? make investors feel like "angels"? this is so predatory
god i wish you could still see dislikes
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you can with a chrome plugin
0 likes2.4k and counting. 1k in the last hour and a half alone :)
0 likesdislikes are now at 3.8k lol
0 likesDisrupt deserves the title of the highest quality content ever created on YouTube
0 likesOkay, SkyFromMinecraft
0 likesNo please don't we love your video
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The channel isn't leaving.
1 likeOoooh shit u messed up
0 likesi wish people buy the shares, your channel produce top quality content
0 likesNah.
1 likeLe scam
1 likeWhoever's reading this, i pray that whatever you're going through gets better and whatever you're struggling with or worrying about is going to be fine and that everyone has a fantastic day! Amen
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Bro really stole this💀💀💀
31 likesAre u a bot lol
16 likesQuandail Dingle
1 likeno
0 likesBot
1 likeOh on god
1 likeThe real Quandale Dingle wants to know your location
0 likesBro, the video was just posted
1 likeBut I dont go to church
0 likesBot
0 likesRatio
0 likesthis is really a great idea for future. the great vision.
0 likesTo crispy
0 likesyikes
1 likeWe’re not that stupid
0 likesOh deer
1 likeI don't know man
0 likesdisaster
0 likesI'm out
0 likessellout
1 likei suggest anyone that’s confused go to the discord, he’s answering question and making things a bit more clear
0 likesEven if you felt like you didn’t really need to sell shares, I feel like this would still be a great idea. I love this!
0 likesAs long as Meta won't own the Metaverse, I'll happily watch you guys there
1 likeI'm happy to donate to the channel just because I love the content.
0 likesWow I got scard that he/the team was selling the channel for a specific amount of money like 20k or something idk but thank god they are making some new project/successful business plans!
1 likeI always respected the insane production quality of disrupt, it almost makes sense that this is the next step of upping that quality
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It’s to pay off debt, not to make the production better.
9 likesNow this is interesting
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Yeah
0 likesOK I heard 'I am selling my channel'
1 likeAnd imemdiate thought was 'Where's the unsubscribe button?!'
Good to know you're treating this like a corporation wit hstocks instead.
Any chance you could get partnered with nebula or curiosity stream?
Interesting concept. How do investors get proof of said shares?
2 likesGreat idea! Too bad I'm from Russia and can't participate in this "IPO"
1 likeThis Is the best crowdfounding video i Ve ever seen!
0 likesBig shout out to the disrupt team!
The idea of a white tail deer trying to remember the word for "angel investor," a term I have literally never heard before, is very amusing to me. I'm glad to hear that cervids know more about finances than I do.
0 likesDo what you want man, these videos are great and just keep the quality the same and it'll be fine.
1 likeI always though this channel is better than tv, and that it could be a "digital tv" or something
1 likeI'd 100% do this if I wasn't broke
0 likesHappy your channel is the one who does this :D
0 likesJust reserved my investment. 👌🏼 Best of luck to you!
1 likeU scared ts outta me do not do that again please and thank u <3
0 likesim in complete awe of this channel's growth wow
Man is already using Crowdfunding. He is ahead of his time. My G!
0 likesI’ve been saying there needs to be a way to buy shares of a YouTube based company for years! Love this idea!!!
0 likesI don't have a credit card and I am from Europe. I couldn't use my European bank account for the payment, pretty sad.
1 likeSell shares, like stocks, and keep a hold of 51% of the shares.
1 likeWas one of the first investors on this channel. Really interested to see how this works!
1 likeDamn dude I JUST found this channel...
1 likeSend money, recent deer.
1 likeSound like profit to me.
I'll invest in buying deers which means I'll invest in the Disrupt channel by proxy right ?
How many shares per deer will I gain ?
Are there even high % increase in investor stakes say .02% for $100, .05% for $1,000, .1% for 5,000 and so on or is there just a difference between the $100 investors and higher stake investors?
0 likesSerious question though, is this legal? There are market regulations in place to prevent this sort of thing. Are you registered with the SEC for private market sharing? Companies owning YouTube channels and people having stock in those companies is not an uncommon thing, but it needs to be on the up and up. I know your team is just trying to find a way to make some money, but I hope you did your research. I would 100% invest in and support this channel if there was a proper paper trail.
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Check the website everything is documented in meticulous details. And yes apparently they are Registered with the SEC
0 likesWhy can't they just get a patreon? Don't they do sponsors also? Why does this guy have to be pretentious and clever, if it ain't broke dont fix it, and do what everyone else is doing, because it works. No need to reinvent the wheel.
1 like@Fidelio read the financials. he bought out the other founder. he needs 500k to pay him
2 likes@dreipunktekind So it IS a scam then.
3 likesY'all are goin far.
1 likeThe virtual reality video were sick
2 likesTitle had me freaking out for a hot second, sounds kinda neat
0 likesOne of your best ideas ever.
0 likesas long as these free videos stay cuz im broke as fuck fr
2 likesDisrupt is my favorite YouTube channel right now. I can’t wait to see what this will allow for in the future! Thank you guys for such continued amazing content!
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❤Only for fans over 18 year⤵️
0 likesAlles sehr schön. Aber zuerst zusammen die Nummern 10 und 1. Eine Close-Up.Online Brünette und eine andere Blondine. Es wäre unfair, wenn ich 4 wählen würde.
It’s to pay off debt, not to bring better production.
5 likesIt's a shame that I will likely miss the early bird investment period, I wish you and your team luck!
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Don't FOMO on an "investment" on a defaulted company with no return (read the financials), there are other companies that pay good money in dividends every quarter.
2 likes@HyperMario this is slightly different, as i am not entirely in on it for the money, and more in on it to help out the channel
0 likes@Lolsbarry224 This is presented as an investment, so to make money. He used deception to trick the credulous fans in need of money to just pay his own liabilities. This is bad at every level, really there are companies out there paying 3% in dividends every year (not including asset appreciation which makes even more money) and you could buy their stock today.. At best I doubt anyone would even make 1/100 of their money back ever.
3 likesGood luck Bro <3
1 likeI really want to invest but I'm just another kid on YouTube. I'll stick to watching all your videos but I can't wait to see how your business will grow. I really believe you guys can get big.
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Here’s some life advice. please do not listen or give money to YouTubers or anyone else for the love of your parents money and your own money. No one is your friend, no one cares about you, everyone wants you to lose so they can win, if you want to throw your money away so badly, then give it to a nice charity like càncer research or your local animal Shelter. I know you won’t read this or care, but don’t waste your time and money on things that don’t matter.
2 likespre invested! love this idea
0 likes“Shut up and take my money!!!!”
1 likeloved your channel. you made such quality vids, and i respect you.
1 likeLmao if i had a ton of mony I'd get the whole thing but i mean i dont even know my credit card number or password
1 likeAlso wtf this is high uhm
High
Budget yeah-
U lucky you came out honestly in the first 5 seconds
1 likeDude the editing of the vidéo is INSANE.
0 likesno I hate changes :(
1 likeI have changed my mind, change is good :)
That's actually cool, I might invest in this once I secure myself a job, good luck Disrupt your content is one of the best here on youtube.
0 likesi want to invest to see wherre this goes.
0 likesThat's a great idea 💡 fuck it I'll buy some
0 likesNice title too, that's the first time I wasn't pissed off at clickbait ✌🏻✌🏿✌🏽💯
Honey, have you commented in order to boost viewer engagement so that the algorithm show this video to more people?
1 likeSo far I've never invested in anything in my life, I guess this is where I start
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This will be the worst investment in your life (read the financials they are in grave debt and use 100% of the funding to have it paid back), put money on a publicly traded company that pays good money in dividends from today instead.
1 like@HyperMario nahh, I like disrupt, I'd rather give them money than some big corporation that doesn't need it.
0 likesI'm not investing for a return, I wanna see them succeed
@VBplays An investor only makes money. It's not about helping out some overpowerful corporation, it's about understanding the intrinsic value of a company on the market to profit off it. The obtained leverage goes into expanding, reaching new markets.. It's like growing a tree, it really is a great activity.
1 likeIf you are not doing that, you are simply burning your money. Here to save a company that made undesirable choices and now shamelessly uses deception on their core audience to avoid bankruptcy. Believe it or not, most big corps are more honest than that.
@HyperMario chill buddy, why do you care about what I do with my money.
0 likes@VBplays Because you are getting scammed and apparently you are all in for it. But as always, easier to fool someone that convince them they've been fooled.
1 like@HyperMario the only scammer here is you
0 likesWhy does this seem like a really bad investment...
1 likeI think this is a great idea
0 likescool idea- love it
0 likesHearing that Pogo track made me feel so nostalgic... Love your content my dude, I wish I had the funds to help
0 likesReady to invest 100 bucks wish in could dish out more honestly
0 likeswish I had $100 :(
0 likes100/0.07 * 7000 * 100 => valuation of one billion dollars!
1 likeJust reserved my part on the channels wefunder page. Im excited to see how this all goes. You got my support.
0 likesI’m down bad atm but I really want to
0 likesThe John Deer letter was clever, but you only get a comment and continued subscription
0 likesThis youtube channel is the goat
0 likesWAIT WAIT WAIT AGAINST YOUTUBE TOS!!!! ABORT ABORT!!!!
1 likeHahaha I’m in LFG!!!
0 likesSCARED MONEY DONT MAKE NO MONEY!
Remember that when you see this idea take off like a rocket!! LFG! 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Excellent touch using some of Pogo’s music👍 keep it up
0 likes7:35 is a very good explanation, if you're wondering why they're doing this
1 likePlan B is not gonna happen lmao. Y’all have already raised like 30k and rising since this went up. Prob gonna put some money in in the next few minutes. Good shit.
0 likesTake my money 💰
1 likeAre Canadians not able to get involved? Tried to purchase but was unable to due to my location
0 likesDoes Disrupt do hire work?
0 likesTake my money great idea
1 likethis looks interesting
0 likesthanks for the 10%
1 likeShut up and take my money 👑
1 likeI barely make 300$ a month bruh.
0 likesAy man just stop making worlds deadliest virus videos and we good. It was cool when it was one video but yea love that yall can use your incredible production with newer ideas
0 likesplot twist, he doesn't make any money from the yt channel
0 likesgot scared for a second there
0 likessort of an IPO eh....yeah Im down.
0 likesI'm sold! Sign me up!
0 likesdont fucking phrase it like that man
2 likesGenuinely considering it, your quality is unmatched and I can only see things going up
0 likesCan I invest from the UK?
0 likesOk I loved your channel
0 likesIf only I had 100 dollars
0 likesNo one do it, it’s not worth it.
1 likebruh the pathfinder 🤣
0 likesDisrupt IS the future.
0 likesnfts but they actually have a use
0 likesi'll give you tree fiddy
2 likesoh my god, i just freaked out, but dont 100%
0 likesMan... you spooked me.
1 likeGood luck with it. I really enjoy your videos
Im interested
0 likesCount me in.
0 likes3:42 is that apath finder
0 likesI like this idea
0 likesI can't donate from Canukistan :(
0 likesOh thank God it was clickbait
0 likesim that deer watching this video 144p
0 likesg e n i u s :)
0 likesis that the backrooms?
0 likesVery cool
0 likeshow do i buy
1 likeLike stocks. I’m sorry to say but like gambling, I’m not into stocks.
0 likesCouldn’t you just cut back production and get story blocks
0 likesHow do I sell my shares?
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You can't (I think?)
0 likesim broke as hell r i bought new shoes lemme save up y not
0 likesOne of the best channels on youtube, of course I'm in!!
0 likesMan fuck now i wish i had 100 bucks
0 likes1 like
I got a bag of chips so if you want it hit me up
0 likesPeepeepoopoo moment
1 like<3
0 likes<3
0 likesMMMmMMMmMmM investment :>
2 likesI invested $100
0 likesI don't like where this is going.
0 likesBruh moment
0 likesits free real estate
0 likesNever though YouTube channels would be like companies on stock exchanges
0 likesPretty cool
I'm always skeptical but this sounds interesting.
1 likeAnd...cue huckstering, unsubscribed.
2 likesWhat the fuck is a metaverse
1 likeso you are selling 10% for 500,000. What makes your think disrupt is worth 5 million dollars? You never shared your current revenue
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Check the website
0 likes@MA I read their earnings and they seem off. clearly these numbers are meant to be a multiple of something but, what is it? 10, 100, 1000? Like no way they spent $2.60 on taxes
0 likesSure, budy!
0 likesWhat :(
0 likesMy bank account is not compatible in Canada. Fuck !
0 likesAt first I thought you were selling it off to pay debts or you were just tired of it. Now I understand what you're going for
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He is doing it to pay off debt.
4 likes… no.
0 likesWhere's your balance sheet
1 likeThree, take it or leave it.
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Three … of what?
0 likesyea ok cool
0 likesI just subbed 23 minutes ag9
0 likescool
0 likesoh ok
0 likesNot me, later
1 likeI was sad or upset when I saw the title, but this actually makes me hopeful. I like it
0 likesI dont even know you why is this recommended?
0 likesI am commenting a lot in order to boost viewer engagement so the algorithm show this to more people.
1 likeSellout
1 likei dropped a dislike on this video
0 likesI'll make a cinematic space video of your choosing for it
0 likesDidn't know such thing was possible; owning a portion of a Youtube channel (Disrupt) while not actively being employed yet profiting from it is astonishing.
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Same concept as buying stocks in a company
0 likesno
2 likesThis seems like an incredible investment opportunity, definitely going to look into it!
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Lol
0 likesWe don’t care hah
0 likeslol
1 likeits dead jim
0 likesSellout
0 likesHaha. Bye
1 likeYikes
0 likesyo wtf?
1 likeRed flag
0 likesSure I'll throw a hundred into the ring. Hope this bet pays off for you. Don't care too much about the potential returns but I want you guys to keep producing the same high-quality quality content.
0 likesJust unsubscribed.
0 likesno thanks
0 likesCrowdfunding… yea nah
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Nothing wrong with crowdfunding, it’s the way he asking for the money.
0 likes@Fidelio yup. To pay off his own debt
0 likes@Dillon Mathews That would be fine to ask for help if he was honest about it. He’s lying. Therefore it isn’t.
0 likes@Fidelio yea that’s what I’m saying it’s a scam
0 likes@Fidelio bro chill tf out 😂 I’m saying that this is a bad idea, not worth time or money
0 likes@Dillon Mathews I agree it’s a bad idea, but crowd funding would have been fine if he just admitted he’s in debt. I wouldn’t fucking pay him, but at least he’s being honest right? Bur this way is just ludicrous.
0 likes@Fidelio yea for sure
0 likesare you fucking kidding me
0 likesNo dont
0 likestf?
0 likes10h
0 likesBye!
1 likeno.
0 likesoof. nah
0 likeslol
0 likesSell out
1 likebye lol
0 likesUnsubbed, crying shame.
0 likesscam
0 likesLol
0 likesUnsubscribed
0 likesno
0 likesYuck..
0 likespls gib money
0 likesOof.
0 likesLol no. Bye.
0 likesDon`t be stupid just WATCH THE FULL. Video befire Commenting there shuting down. THEY WON`T SHUTDOWN FOR NOW .
2 likesbruh
0 likesbruh
0 likesbruh
0 likesBuck
0 likesWtf
0 likesDisrupt is god
0 likesUnsubscribed.
0 likesreally cringe
1 likeUnsubscribed
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cringe
0 likesThis reeks of violation of SEC securities laws. Did you consult with lawyers before doing this upload?
1 likeUnsubbed
2 likesClown bomb❓❓
0 likesWow! This sucks!
1 likeReplies (1)
100
0 likesYiiiiiiikes
0 likesDumb Quebec doesnt let you invest so i cant because of wmy dumb province that i cant wait to move out of will not allow me to spend my OWN money on this.
0 likesReplies (1)
I have a whole list of reasons why i want to move out and why i honestly hate Quebec. Visiting a nearby province showed me alot of things that are different and wrong about quebec.
0 likesAyo what's going on in the comment replies
0 likesDecentralization is how we free ourselves.
0 likesUnsubbed.
0 likesWho is this Jordan guy?
1 likeReplies (1)
Ex business partner.
0 likesThey did a video on permanent sleep paralyses, which I could not fact check. So yeah nah.
0 likesFlagged and unsubbed lol ✌️
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why?
0 likes@mxw2l He's misrepresenting the situation, the money is used to pay off his debt, he leaves this out of the subtext of the video and his viewers and potential donors remain uneducated on it, it is deceitful and a scam
1 like@Keronuts how did you know that? i saw others people's comment too but I didn't know where it's stated
0 likesMeh.
0 likesyeh nah
0 likesUnsubbed
1 likeguys no one buy lol shit opportunity
0 likeswhyd you have to show the fucking clip from flappy bird it makes me physically cringe
0 likesBeen watching the channel for a pretty long time never seen another channel do something like this
1 likeList to prepare/enjoy the summer
2 likes- Loving yourself (changed my life)
- Getting Sunlight
- Nof4p
- working out
- investing money (crypto, stocks, savings emergency fund)
- ending bad habits (snoozing, gossiping, procrastinating)
- planning your days
- Cold showers (Even the last 20 seconds of your regular shower)
- Not relying on relationships/companionships for happiness
- not comparing yourself to others (compare you from yesterday)
- helping others (can be simple things)
- Not trying to impress people (impress yourself from yesterday)
- Breathing in from your nose
- Cleaning your room/house
- Taking breaks of social media (or quit it)
- Making up your bed (discipline practice)
- Eating healthier & learning to cook
- weekly walks (in nature, no headphones/AirPods)
- learning how to defend yourself (verbally & physically)
- drinking water daily (2-4 liters)
- Reading at least 5-10 pages of an (e)book
- Quitting/moderating drugs/alcohol
- Quitting/moderating caffeine & sugary drinks
- meditating
- Giving to the less fortunate
- cutting out bad friends & family
- minimalism
- Having a plan for things you wanna do
- Learning a (remote) skill (coding, music, designing, marketing)
- Being aware of what you're doing with your valuable time & energy
- Behaving how you supposed to, according to your gender (man or woman)
Consider trying out at least 1 thing from this list (make a screenshot📸)
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wtf does "behaving how you're supposed to, according to your gender" mean..? im not male nor female so ig i dont have to do anything
1 likeInteresting concept. I'm curious to see how it goes. Best of luck disrupt.
2 likesDamn, sounds like a deal
1 likeIf you still make great videos i dont mind
0 likesI will happily invest into Distrupt, when i'm 18
0 likestrust me, my dad'll love this lol
0 likesgo path B dont let them know your next move
2 likesI have seen youtubers talking about selling channel shares in future like this .
2 likesAre there any requirements to buy shares like age, salary, ect. ?
0 likesimma buy the channel before the encoding even reaches hd
1 likeThat’s so cool, expanding your buisness is not a bad idea at all
0 likesUnique thing I wonder how this will go
1 likeThis was for sure clickbait. I shit myself thinking disrupt was going away
1 likeCan't afford cus sunak over here in UK messed up the economy and I'm broke. BUT I wish the best luck, love the channel
0 likesSaw this coming
2 likes
0 likesYOU'RE DOING WHAT?!Wait, that's not what I thought. That's very interesting.
Great you might have good intentions but the nft and crypto market has proved that 95% of other people dont. Problem is people thought youtube could be a job with reliable income. Here come the scam channels. Im gonna stick to buying silver and physical things of actual value.
1 likeQuality is limited to 360p, you might consider a reupload if this was not intended
1 likePlan A seems pretty interesting
0 likesOk I'm into plan A 🙏
1 likeThis channel is awesome
0 likesNot what i expected from the title
2 likesMan if I had the $$$, I would. I think there's a lot of wonderful things happening on this channel!
1 likeI'll give you $5 take it or leave it
2 likesThe moose bit lol
2 likesDang thats a bad time to be jobless
0 likesEven this guys funding advertising is cool wtf.
1 likeI wanna buy but im broke
0 likesThis reminds me of meta/oculos ads
1 likelol i love the deer scene
1 likeIs it just me or did someone drop the audio before posting
1 like$100 kinda steep
1 like3. Take it or leave it.
1 likeI was so scared for a sec
2 likesAre u registered with the SEC
2 likesI got real scared when I saw the title pop up in my notifications but phew
0 likesDISRUPT GOING TO TRIPLE A STATUS
0 likesI read the title and got scared
2 likesWould invest im broke tho
0 likesThe YouTube stock exchange
1 likeIf the high quality videos are consistent, I'll gladly buy a few shares
1 likeOh never mind this looks cool
0 likesSo it’s an investment opportunity
1 likeNO BRO
1 likeEdit: phew.. too bad I'm poor
that’s a W
1 likeFEATURE LENGTH FILMS AND SHOWS?????
0 likesLET'S GOOOOOOOO
dont know why but the low quality adds a weird ambience
1 likeguys watch atleast 1 min of the video before commenting
0 likesBRUH That scared me omg
1 likeoh my god i was so worries
0 likesii would invest but i dont have a bank
0 likesdef gonna check this out on the 1st when I get paid homie, great idea!
0 likesthis a very interesting ad 🤔
0 likesdoes anyone else not hear anything
1 likeEdit: nvm it fixed
3.20$ and a mcdonalds sprite
1 likeThis is the future of youtube take notes 🤙😎
2 likesI'm in.
0 likesThis is crazy
0 likesCan I have some NFTs and weed crypto to it?
2 likesmy country is poor I can't buy :(
0 likesI think we all got scared
0 likesgood luck
1 likethis is cool
0 likesDon't scare me with these names...
0 likesHell yea
0 likesIll take 10
0 likesVery interesting
0 likesTheres no sound for me?
1 likeWait , so we drop 100 dollars for 23 shares and at the end we of year we receive a net profit it but you said your gonna use that capital to further the disturb the channel ? So that means we don’t get anything except just saying we own a portion of distrupt when we really don’t ? Or am I not getting it . Again, I’m not trying to bash it or anything I just genuinely don’t get it so hopefully someone can clarify for it me in the comments or you yourself can contact me somehow about it . I appreciate it A lot , thank you .
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bro do you understand how equity works at all? you need to learn the very basics
1 like@Dogald Trump yeah your right , ima prolly delete the comment . I didn’t mean to come off rude or anything
0 likesWhat are you doi, oh wait this aint bad
0 likesCool <3
0 likesThere's no audio for me
0 likesthat unsub button looks juicy
0 likesNo sound my guy
0 likesGenius
0 likesscared me ffs
1 likei'm in
0 likesL business decision unsubscribed
2 likesIf I could, I definitely would! Can’t wait to see where this takes the channel.
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The channel is going bye bye
1 likeThe campaign is a desperate attempt to pay off a $500,000 debt that the creator is in. The details are linked on the campaign page, in their financials document. None of the money is going towards growing the Disrupt brand.
1 likeThis is so sad
0 likesShut up and take my money
0 likesamazing troll
0 likesIdk who you even are bro.
0 likes$3
Take it or leave it
my third best YouTuber NOOO
2 likesNo audio
2 likesI want in
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Disrupt is dooope
1 likeNo sound.
0 likes3:33 PATHYYYYYYYYYYY
1 likeI understand
0 likesI'm getting no audio
0 likesIm in. To the moon. Get rich quick. plis
1 likeVideo came out 2 minutes ago and people acting like they’ve already watched it twice and think it’s a bad idea
2 likeswhy are you selling?
0 likesI hate being poor only because I can't support my fave channels...
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Ur poor lol
1 like@Kayos 47 you forgot to change account 💀
0 likesBuying now
0 likesIm broke asf
0 likesNoti scared tf out of me
0 likesSo you went public
1 likeinvested B)
0 likesNo audio
1 likeI like it, Picasso
0 likesInvested.
0 likesMmm, stonks
0 likesInteresting
0 likesInteresting
0 likeshow much?
0 likesthis sounds like such a good idea I think yall are ahead of the curve with this one, such an awesome channel with an awesome team of people. I can only imagine how much this channel will have grown in the next few years
0 likesI cant hear anything
0 likesNo audio
0 likesYour audios bugged
2 likesWhy on earth is this video locked on 480p
0 likesReplies (1)
its not
0 likesGonna miss you
0 likesReplies (1)
Nvm
0 likesinteresting
1 likeThis is actually a really interesting way of marketing a channel.
0 likesThis video was not in the channel but I see it for some reason
0 likesReplies (1)
New Youtube videos sometimes take a while to appear in the video list even if they're already in the notifications or your main feed.
0 likesdamn
0 likesSo clickbait lol
0 likesالسلام عليكم انا سيدة احتاج مساعدة اخواني اهل الخير الرجاء افتح الصورة سوف تجد رقمي وتساب هذا لكي اشرح ظروفي في فلسطين
0 likeslol no.
2 likesWeird
0 likesCrazy
0 likesBro wtf
0 likesi offer 3czk
0 likesi shated lol
0 likesDang
0 likescool
0 likescool
0 likesLmaoo what
0 likesso early the vids still in 360p
0 likesOh boy 😰
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Did you take it down that fast? Lol
0 likes@Harmony S he didint
0 likeswhat in the world
0 likesnot buying it
2 likesfalse alarm
0 likesnice clickbait
0 likesWhere the fuck is the audio
0 likesWoah
0 likesScam
1 like6:07 has anyone noticed the Lo-fi beats girl?
0 likes2 dolar
0 likesWhy
0 likeswhat what
0 likesDisrupt nfts
0 likes⁉️
0 likesWhats wrong with the 360p quality why is that a thing?
0 likesReplies (2)
It's probs still processing
0 likes@Megumin ah alright got you
0 likeshmmmm.
0 likesapparently 8 commenters dont count when counting veiws
0 likesReplies (1)
The view counter only updates every now and then.
0 likesOne robux
1 likeWtf
0 likesDam
0 likesBalling
0 likesChhattisgarh
0 likes360p?
0 likes1 minute gang
0 likesNah
0 likesGod. What I would do to not just be an investor but also be part of the team.
0 likesThis is such a big turning point for Disrupt. I know it will pay off down the line.
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Yikes fella.
0 likesClown
0 likesMajor dislike.
1 likewhat
0 likes!
0 likesReeks
0 likesBruh
0 likesBruh
0 likesI'd like purchase $44B worth. Nah...now I don't want it. Oooh look! A shiny rocket. –EM
0 likesOh god... the deer promoting this scammers shill.... very funny a+ content
1 like0 views damn
0 likesDisgusting..
0 likes??
0 likesoh
0 likesUnsubbed
0 likesUnsubbed
0 likesImagine becoming a disrupt millionare
0 likesBologna
0 likesbro disrupt is the future of entertainment if you dont invest youre missing out and i will try to invest as much as i can lol but essentially this will be like the new youtube and netfllix but higher quality content and in the metaverse and with the huge advantage they will have they will gain a lot of experience wich will lead to disrupt innovating faster than every other company because they had a headstart and will learn quicker gapping every other company and essentially becoming the best content platform ever. so yeah guys go invest
0 likesUnsubbing
0 likesOkay
0 likesIll invest. I also have a story ive worked years on, is there someway I can pitch it and have it animated if you guys like it? Itd be best computer animated. It could be a series, spin offs are easy when it gets popular.
1 likeNeedless to say, its epic and I highly suggest somebody make some money off this before I die and its gone. I just want it out there... It can change lives.
Ok
0 likesOk
0 likesPonzi
0 likesI bet you already have 10k from people wanting to be a part. If I had the money, I would. And I very well may in a few days if still possible. If not, still very interested to see where this channel goes.
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It's at $7,350 already
0 likes@yesn't 66k now. Safe to say I missed out lol
0 likeslame
0 likesU love men
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Based
1 likehuh
0 likesGg
0 likesSayonara ni
0 likespretending i never saw this video
1 likeReplies (1)
The copium i'm taking is unreal
1 likeI would but your channel's videos go off on tangents in the middle of the video and it's very jarring.
0 likesNo cap the best channel in the whole universe is Disrupt.
0 likesMan, this sucks.
0 likessus
1 likeClick baiiiit
0 likessus
0 likesI respect this clickbait.
0 likescringe
0 likesLmfao unsubscribed
1 likeW
0 likesHuh
0 likeswhayh
0 likes$5 and a bag of Doritos. That's my offer.
1 likeLove the content!
1 likeI'm buying this channel
1 like0% of it
whatever
I already own it, it's fine
Almost got scared there for a second
2 likes$5 and a bag of Sweet Chili Doritos
2 likesWHAT why its nice channel to watch
1 likeHad me scared lol
1 likeOh… we get to invest in disrupt?
0 likesNO DUDE DON'T
1 likeHow does that work?
1 likeFeeling smart
0 likesyou won't sell 11%, I dare you.
0 likesYou scared me bro 😭🦍
0 likesBig if true!
0 likesscared me for a second
0 likesCan I have it for free?
1 likeWHAT WHY NO PLEASE I BEG YOU
1 likethis notification made me pee myself
0 likesPlease don't
1 likeTitle scared me lol
0 likes6 robucks take it or leave it
1 likeExcuse me good sir, would you care to repeat that?
0 likesNo audio?
1 likeI’ll give u 60 quid mate
1 likeImma do it
0 likesNOOOOOOOOO BRO
0 likesno change
0 likesI offer 2 shmuckers and bubble gum
0 likesInvest in me instead.
0 likesi'm sad
0 likesNice
0 likesGod damn
0 likesoh i throught you'd stop
0 likesPlz dont
0 likesNo audio
0 likesoh i see
0 likesPls no
0 likesWeird.
0 likes3 dollars
0 likesi have 5 quadrillion dollars
0 likesDamn
0 likescan i have it for 4 dinero
0 likesBro what💀
0 likesNo…….
0 likesthis is D d d disrupt tvtvm
0 likesI’ll give you $5 take it or leave it
0 likesWhat why
0 likesLol rip
1 likeNOOOOO
0 likesWHAT
0 likesWHAT
0 likesHow much
0 likesNONONONONO
0 likesOoo a change
0 likesWhat?
0 likesPrice
0 likes💀
0 likesLOOOOL
0 likesOh no
1 likeWhy are you selling this channel?
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he is not
0 likes@sphixy true. talking about clicking this so fast
1 like@Noneof Business you are not the only one dont worry about that
0 likesWtf no
0 likesWoah
0 likesWoah
0 likesO.o
0 likesbruh what
0 likesgive me
0 likesDon’t
0 likesReported
0 likesNOOO
0 likesWhy
0 likesWhy
0 likesdeal
0 likesnooo
0 likesReal
0 likesHuh??
0 likes£2
1 likeReplies (2)
deal
0 likesI give 3
0 likesW audio
0 likeshmmm..
0 likesYou clickbaiter
0 likesok
1 likeGimme
0 likeswhyy
0 likespath b sounds terrible
0 likesnoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
0 likesok
0 likesWWWW
0 likesNo
0 likesNo
0 likesWhatttt
0 likeswhat
0 likesWhat
1 likeWhat
1 likeBruh
0 likesBruh
0 likesWadafuk
0 likesoh
0 likesWhat
0 likeshuh??
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oh thought he was selling the entire account
0 likesi was here
0 likesOk
1 likehuh
0 likesOh
1 likeMan is ahead of the curve
1 likeWhat
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I WAS FIRST!!!
1 likeWut
0 likesthink about tokenizing this idea… this idea in the form of a token and recorded on a blockchain would be the best and most of all transparent way of dispersing the securities…
0 likesFor this I would totally be down for…
Pls let me know if this is an avenue you’re willing to explore…
Just remember that now you’re selling securities… the SEC will come after you… so pls do your homework…
But sign me up!
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Crypto is shit.
0 likes@CMGz FiveOneZero
0 likesMost people who try to invest in crypto end up more broke, for one—it's a scam with only the lucky few actually benefitting.
For another, making fun of someone for being poor is verified clown behavior; i mean, you're practically holding a sign saying "I'm a stupid asshole!"
I'm early
0 likeschoob
0 likesJust put in $100. I block all internet ads, so I like to directly support people I appreciate whenever possible.
0 likes1st view :D
0 likesSo I don't think calling this a scam is fair at all. This plan is just combining the traditional investor model with crowdsourcing which is both forward thinking and a bit shaky - as some of the more thoughtful criticisms have pointed out. I think it's important to highlight that by in large Disurpt does make content with incredibly high production value, especially for Youtube (part of the reason I subscribed was to just find out how y'all were pulling this off lol!). Framing this ask as a different avenue for crowdsourcing with the possibility of profit down the line might have sat with some of the viewers a bit better.
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They are $500,000 in debt and the “investments” made from this initial stage are going to pay off that debt. It says that much in the financials.
1 likePlus, from what I can tell, the $10,000,000 valuation is pulled out of thin air, because none of their numbers even come close to reaching 1,000,000 (only their debt reaches half of that).
And, given their business plan is measured in 5 years, I’m assuming they’ll be able to reach at least half of their $10,000,000 mark in that time? I don’t know, but to go from $60,000 gross profits in 2020 to $10,000,000 in less than 10 years is crazy and hardly ever accomplished. Not impossible, but just SUPER highly unlikely—even given the high quality of the channel.
wow 8 seconds ago what
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like literally please tell me how i got to this 8 seconds after it released like the earliest ive got to a video is probably like around an hour after it releases
0 likesThis is how we take back youtube, gah I hope this catches on
0 likesOke
1 likeDude Disrupt Youtube Channel will never be worth more than 10 million dollar lmao wtf is this scam why are you doing this besides the obvious greed
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Ha figures a freaking russian doesn't understand a American activity
1 likew
0 likesCool. Unsubbed. BYEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Reeeeeeee
0 likes$208 Like that.
0 likesNorrrr
0 likesCool.
0 likesUnsubscribeD
na
0 likesif we reach the 500,000 goal if someone buys 27 shares for $100 the channel would need to make $5million just to break even in a year... and you get 500k views on average and post every couple months... 500k views will most likely give something around $500... you gotta be kidding with this...
0 likesI don't have the money to buy to buy shares, but I'm still commenting a lot in order to boost viewer engagement so the algorithm show this to more people.
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You commented 4 time what are talking about lol
3 likes@w89 09 That's 400% of my normal rate.
1 likeSus
0 likesDisrupt going on stock market? Based
0 likese
0 likesHi
0 likesCrazy new idea and it sounds terrible, take my money. I don’t rep WSB for nothing.
0 likesL
1 likeBye👋
1 likeIf this were anyone else, I'd be EXTREMELY suspicious. However, the fact you've been making such creative content, at such a high level for so long, (along with your explanation of what Disrupt's future could look like) at least tells me you aren't scammers. I don't know if it'd actually be a good investment, but I know you guys will give it your all. Best of luck, I'll be along for the ride.
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You have to come back and read why this is a scam in the comments. Too bad... the idea isn't bad at all, I mean, for smaller channels that need equipment and other stuff to improve, it might be worth it to donate via Patreon.
0 likesL
0 likesL
0 likesL
0 likesThis is brilliant.
1 likeSounds like a pyramid Scheme but aright.
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You clearly have no idea what a pyramid scheme is lmao.
0 likesGood luck Disrupt. This channel is unparalleled.
0 likesyo
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yo
0 likesINVEST NOW
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YES lets pay off this dudes debt while he lies to us WOO
0 likes1k contributed
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Money down the drain? Only time will tell
0 likesdidnt ask
0 likesFinally a creator that actually wants everyone to be successful.
0 likesFirtnite
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ben
0 likesIn this comments section : People don't understand how corporate investment works, that corporations sell stocks/shares as fundraising to pay off debts, and that this is the norm for corporate business, and they just aren't used to seeing that because it's a youtube channel, and don't see it as a business, and they're also all cynics about people raising money because this is a channel that regularly talks about scam artists and how they got away with it for so long, so they default to seeing the worst in everything.
0 likesI’m definitely sending in $100
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I might do $200
0 likesTo those who are funding, please look at it as a donation. To those who aren’t funding, if you still want to support Disrupt another way there’s always the merchandise and Disrupt+.
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Can't really look at it as a donation while he advertises how prosperous his channel is to an investment audience
0 likesIt’s not a donation though, this is a gauge FOR investments. 100% transparency is required, in which the threshold has not and was not been met.
0 likesDisrupt is not shuting down for now. they just need help not shuting down. Let`s just all support the content we like. SUPPORT DISRUPT TV.
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Why doesnt he just get a patreon and stream on twitch? Or sell digital products?
2 likesI'm not sure about this one. Basically everyone here has agreed it's a terrible investment. If you really need money, you could probably just ask for it. with almost one and a half million viewers, you could probably get quite a bit of money if you choke down your pride.
0 likesMake it an NFT and I'll buy it
1 like