Zecora was the only one in any alternate reality who truly understood what was going on. Hmmm...

@Flowey The flower  holy shit it's Flowey from the hit indie game made by Toby Fox, Undertale!

“ 𝐂𝐫𝐲𝐬𝐭𝐢 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐊𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐲𝐃𝐨𝐠♥ ”

@Rania Cat nightmare moon is the imposter!!!

Oh and don’t forget Pinkie Pie in the first Equestria Girls movie

@Lauryn Hinnant <br>How Long did it takes you to overthink the story of mlp and write this whole text down. I mean it isnt bad an I respect you for this but it just doesnt feel right to see someone get into this so much...

@Lauryn Hinnant
How Long did it takes you to overthink the story of mlp and write this whole text down. I mean it isnt bad an I respect you for this but it just doesnt feel right to see someone get into this so much...

It’s been a long time but do you know of Guinan in Star Trek: The Next Generation? I suggest checking it out.

@Eric Staudt maybe starlight is a changeling and was working uncover for chrysalis she pretended to be “starlight” and was actually trying to get insight on how to get inside Canterlot Castle ( they could have had multiple changelings undercover) and she was also pretending to be Zecora so she could get insight on how the Magic of friendship works then she would try and apply the knowledge she got on sunburst cause she knew it was the most powerful power you could have and when sunburst moved away because of his cutie mark she realized the Magic of friendship wasn’t the most powerful and it was actually destiny. She didn’t like that so she moved to do her own “ studies” on cutie marks. She realized that the only reason celestia and Luna were rulers was because of there cutie marks. She watched all the other villains fail trying to brute force there way to power and she new her small town would eventually grow in population and with out cutie marks there was no “ Destiny” as to who would rule/ be mayor of the town. Cutie marks would be forgotten just how celestia made nightmaremoon forgotten it was only a matter of time. And when she went back in time she was trying to split the mane 6 and make sure they never meet because then she could go back to her town. And if the mane 6 never met all of the bad things they prevented would be happening and so it would be easier for starlight to rule because the pony’s would forget what a “good” ruler is and compared to to the other potential rulers starlight seemed like an amazing choice. ( sorry I just like to give other people’s Theories a chance)

@Jannie Pate lmao I don't even remember making that

@*Aura_Flower*
Maybe she tried to become famous, but cause the stripes she made herself into the pony Starlight Glimmer, so nobody notice she is a zebra.
As she realized that Starlight isn't popular she become mad.
Sorry for very bad English

@Eric Staudt, ... good point but still, why would she do that?

Even though zecora is not a pegasus she is still pretty sus

Eric Staudt that’s so extremely stupid- what other evidence do you have other than that crap.

@vanilla chocolate
What speaks against it?
I mean that a filly conquer a whole school and defeat a very strong Pony, without anyone noticing!

@Eric Staudt I'm sorry but that's just stupid---

@Eric Staudt you're not serious.... Are you?..

What is if Zecora is Starlight?<br>They Never been at the same Time in one scene

What is if Zecora is Starlight?
They Never been at the same Time in one scene

@Aquaw Wolf yea... Im voting zecora

Zecora wasn't the imposter
(1 imposter remains)

I am sorry I just had to lol


if starlight went back even further in time, to starswirl’s time, she could’ve destroyed the tree of harmony before it got planted,, so she could’ve changed destiny if she had every single detail

Wow I never know this possibility solitas your a real vilain 😂😂😂😂

In my opinion, I don't think Starlight could have destroyed the tree. First point: In my opinion, the spirit of harmony PURPOSELY let the tree be destroyed. Why would the elements send King Sombra to the tree? They never did that before. Sombra didn't GAIN any power from Discord's summoning, it just revived him. Why would he be able to destroy it then, when he couldn't before? The spirit of harmony wanted the focus to be shifted off of artefacts and onto the main point: friendship and harmony. Second point: We saw that the tree can attack things itself (the Chrysalis clones) so if it didn't want Starlight to destroy it, it would probably get rid of her somehow. Third point: The spell only works BECAUSE the tree of harmony exists. (tree > castle > map > time travel spell). If the tree was destroyed, it would create an inescapable paradox. (Tree of harmony used to go back and destroy tree, can no longer use spell, which means the tree ISN'T destroyed because Starlight couldn't have time travelled, which means it DOES get destroyed, and so on and so on) With my understanding of Equestria, I don't think you can create paradoxes (except non-harmful Bootstrap Paradoxes). Conclusion: Even if Starlights magic was theoretically strong enough to destroy the tree (which I don't think it is anyway) there is a multitude of reasons why it couldn't happen.<br>This has been quite a long MLP rant.

In my opinion, I don't think Starlight could have destroyed the tree. First point: In my opinion, the spirit of harmony PURPOSELY let the tree be destroyed. Why would the elements send King Sombra to the tree? They never did that before. Sombra didn't GAIN any power from Discord's summoning, it just revived him. Why would he be able to destroy it then, when he couldn't before? The spirit of harmony wanted the focus to be shifted off of artefacts and onto the main point: friendship and harmony. Second point: We saw that the tree can attack things itself (the Chrysalis clones) so if it didn't want Starlight to destroy it, it would probably get rid of her somehow. Third point: The spell only works BECAUSE the tree of harmony exists. (tree > castle > map > time travel spell). If the tree was destroyed, it would create an inescapable paradox. (Tree of harmony used to go back and destroy tree, can no longer use spell, which means the tree ISN'T destroyed because Starlight couldn't have time travelled, which means it DOES get destroyed, and so on and so on) With my understanding of Equestria, I don't think you can create paradoxes (except non-harmful Bootstrap Paradoxes). Conclusion: Even if Starlights magic was theoretically strong enough to destroy the tree (which I don't think it is anyway) there is a multitude of reasons why it couldn't happen.
This has been quite a long MLP rant.

OH.MY.GOD

SHE COULD HAVE GOTTEN SO MANY POWERS OH GOD SHE IS LIKE-
WHAT

got no words

My guess would be that destiny allowed itself to be bent to prevent it from being broken (if starlights power was allowed to continue developing they could of permanently broken it so fate allowed it to be bent so that the problem could be dealt with

@Sam he was talking about the darkness inside him; he wasn't the one controlling the dark magic. ponies don't control dark magic, it controls you, perhaps sombra just learned to maintain it long ago. stygian needed all the pillars, mane 6 and the most powerful ponies to overcome the hate.

@Shadow Hawkrine yes exactly, i think its the power of hate. you have to think of VERY dark things in your life, like maybe celestia thought of banishing her sister a second time; when twilight was hypnotised by the dark door, she saw bad things.

@Sam dark magic doesnt mean bad magic, its ancient powerful magic used in a bad way. normal magic doesn't mean good magic, its just basic magic, but somepony could use it to their benefit in a bad way, but it still wouldn't be considered dark magic, just magic used in an evil way.

@Shadow Hawkrine hm....that sounds very interesting as well and very plausible. He was called the father of monsters for a reason. Maybe he used his bell that he stole magic in to create the pony of shadows and he used the spell to do it. The being was able to take over a pony just out of the wim.

@Sam That sounds VERY interesting. Likely too. I bet he did make the spell.
But hear me out, they also gloss over another villain, Grogar. What if he was responsible for the living shadow monster? Grogar was called the "father of monsters"
What if he made the shadow that took over stygian?

@Shadow Hawkrine right they kinda glossed over it. I'm curious as to how it even came about. what if Stygian found a scroll containing the spell after he ran away from the village he lived at? because remember when he came back he used the spell to attack the 6 pillers. hm......maybe Starswirl created it but messed it up and to prevent anyone from getting it, he locked it up somewhere. is it too much of a stretch to believe he might have messed up a spell? he wasn't able to finish that one spell in the finally of season 3.

@Sam True, even evil magic can be used for a good purpose.<br>Just to be clear, all magic Sombra used was dark magic, stygian seemed to use an even darker, more mysterious magic. Twilight and celestia used the kind of dark magic Sombra used. I really want to know more about stygian and the shadow magic that took him over

@Sam True, even evil magic can be used for a good purpose.
Just to be clear, all magic Sombra used was dark magic, stygian seemed to use an even darker, more mysterious magic. Twilight and celestia used the kind of dark magic Sombra used. I really want to know more about stygian and the shadow magic that took him over

@Shadow Hawkrine ohh ok i wasn't thinking about black smoke being the only dark magic. So her cutie mark removal spell could be used for good? Honestly you saying the black magic being used by Celestia and Twilight was used for good and wasn't used for control rather than to help others. For example, when Twilight used the spell it was to open the door that showed ponies their worse fear in the Crystal Empire. That could have been classified as dark magic.

@Sam No, that's not dark magic. She had her own brand of magic never used by anyone else as of yet, cutie mark magic. The kind if dark magic I talk about us the black-purple energy used by Sombra and stygian and once by celestia and twilight.

@Shadow Hawkrine true but Starlight had some dark magic by taking everyone's cutie marks. She not only took away their power but their destiny/identity. We haven't seen another villan be able to do that kind of power exept Tierk and even then he couldn't use the power to manipulate it. Remember Starlight was able to change Starswirl's spell to go back in time to prevent the mane 6 from ever coming together. We haven't seen any villian break what was destin to happen.

@Sam I would say that king Sombra was only able to destroy the tree because of dark magic.

@Shadow Hawkrine well i would agreee, however in the begining of season 9, Sombra was able to destroy the tree of harmony with his powers alone so starlight destroying the tree should be easy. but of course the young mane 6 was able to put the tree back together.

@Cherry Nguyen twi and her have equal magic (twi slightly stronger) but the difference is twilight relies on her friends (like Luna said in season 9 episode 4 “lean on your strengths” or something like that) whereas starlight is independent.

I'm not sure she is powerful enough to have done that. She may be very smart and magical, but she is also short-sighted in her endeavors ultimately. But either way she doesn't have the sheer knowledge or power to destroy the tree in the past. Maybe she could have prevented its creation by screwing around with super young pillars before pillars got strong.

This character was in great form, like she was even more magical than twilight somehow, but her details were bad


Technically, Starlight didn’t break destiny. In the end, all was good, at it was always meant to be. Yes, she may have caused disaster temporarily, but in the long term, she didn’t.

@Kiddie Winnie Roblox Gaming But technically if she did, that was the destiny of that universe

Technically she did break destiny if twilight have not convinced her to just make more friends

Exactly because even in the past it was destiny for her to not do any more because the mane six remember things how they happened which was the locked past and the past can not be alternated


I don't think you can break destiny, EVERYTHING is part of destiny even someone trying to break destiny is part of it in a whole

oogway would know a thing or 2 about that

@Gunjan Malik Fair point. Don't trope (read: think) too hard!

I think it was just part of the cartoon my little pony friendship is magic

Tbh this so-called destiny might be just another dimension of time passing. Just because the time travel spell messes up history, doesn't mean it effects all dimensions of time. The spell only seems to affect the first time dimension while the second still passes.

Can't break destiny...<br>Bungie breaks Destiny every new season

Can't break destiny...
Bungie breaks Destiny every new season

If you don’t know where you wanna go any path will take you there

When she is starting to be good her hair or mane is the same but then she was good her hair is not the same I think the editor just change it I wonder why...

But for real, I believe there are certain aspects in the future that will happen no matter what, like the mane six getting their cutiemarks. They just didn’t get them at the same time. It seems to me that the point was to show Starlight that if you try to rewrite history for your own selfish reasons a more terrible future will occur as your consequence.

I have an easier answer: the writers forgot their own continuity 😆

I can break destiny, and steal souls, and kidnapp people, terrorize everyone in the whole world😈😈😈😈😈

No<br>Destiny isnt Real! Everyone is the architect of his own fortune

No
Destiny isnt Real! Everyone is the architect of his own fortune

Sorry if it seemed I directed my comment at you! I was just responding to @KawaiiYoshi

I love that thought! It's true, Destiny being broken IS part of Destiny, I do think destiny knew EXACTLY what is was doing the whole time, It just gave twilight a little nudge in the "Show this pony friendship before all of Equestria dies" department....HEY... ITS A WORKING TITLE" -Trixie

@Stephanie Burkinshaw I'm just saying you can change your destiny

@•Luna Playz• but can you call meddeling in time your destiny really becosue destiny had already happened and you  choose to go back and then doenst that then become your destiny or destiny chooses that you should make a mistake that altered things still being your destiny just as much as if you hadn't

But you can change destiny like in te travel Even the slightest bit can Change the future... Neji vs Naruto

Stephanie Burkinshaw um destiny* personal* but yeah I agree

@Stephanie Burkinshaw that's what I'm saying, Destiny is what was chosen for you, but you have to earn it. Fate means no matter what you do THIS will happen

But destiny is how you choose it. Destenu isnt set in stone. Desiney does change but desnety is perosnal To you so makey breaking destiny is part of destiny but if y chose u wnated to reform you destiny that would take u on a difenrt path

That's fate there's a difference: fate means no matter what you do this will happen Destiny means you have to do this in specific to do what was chosen for you, you have to earn it


Actually I like Starlight better as a villain and how she was reformed. She wasn't reformed by a magic shiny rainbow, but by the actual magic of friendship.

It’s in the name “my little pony magic is friend ship”or something like that

I felt too that she was reformed too soon, would like to see more of her breaking reality or doing crazy, powerful acts of evil, even though I don't support her actions, she is in my top 3 of favorite MLP villains and I wish there was more of her being evil. Oh well, her breaking destiny and time travelling itself is already pretty damn scary, even though she was reformed, it's probably more complicated. I don't exactly think somepony as scheming as Starlight would agree to reform herself (with Twilight's help), and set things right. She just ends up realizing Twilight is right to the point of letting go of her hatred of cutie marks.

i never noticed that. even when she first arrived, she was an adnormity. they were not able to stop her with magic. EVER. she might even surpass the PRINCESS OF FRIENDSHIP in magic. and if you watch when they help thorax, she doesnt use use magic, so she only defeats the villains the same way she was defeated. through TRUE FRIENDSHIP!

So if the episode is the past what happened in the future I'll be able to be fixed did everyone did Rainbow Dash has resumed cute then get her cutie mark in that past and the only guy I want to see what's going on what do we get the password

I think that deep down, Starlight was crying out for help, wanted to have friends and do good but was blinded by her desire for revenge on the Mane 6.

Even as a good guy, Starlight's old sly cunning self shows up every now and again which is
part of why I like her.

no u dum dum it is the light from the star

Kaciekk yeah i kind of liked that too, because their not just blasting the villain (starlight) in this episode with some rainbow beem they call the "magic of friendship" but actual kindness and the willing choice they gave Starlight

Kaciekk u r very right. All the other villains were all destroyed by rainbows and lasers but not starlight. And kinda getting tired of the rainbow things.

OMG STARLIGHT I LOVE YOU AS A VILLAIN

PLUS I LOVE YOU AS A NICE PONY TOO!

kaciekk I think the good starlight has a better hairstyle than the evil starlight.

She was reformed by persuasion and not skittle power

true, while it didn't involve the rainbow power ex machina it did however had a hasty heel face turn and i thought this was mlp's alternative to the equestria girls movie  which annoyed me a bit. But i will not deny that Starlight Glimmer was and still is a very interesting character and a great villain.

@Hoang Anh Le where is there a 'witch' lol

But wasn't there a sonic rainboom witch is a rainbow when starlight glimmer became nice

well she was kinda because of the rainboom

yeah AN ACTUALLY ACT OF KINDNESS and friendship instead of Luna and the others all a magic shiny rainbow can do is blast u of to space or turn  u into a statue so yeah

MLP has a thing for hasty resolutions :/@Angela Perkins

The reformation seemed kind of rushed, but I guess they did have to stick to a time limit.


I've always wondered how starlight even got her cutiemark since she was against them since she was little,her cutie mark is really pretty but it's never explained on how she got hers to begin with

well her cutie mark means magic obviously, it has the same symbol like in twilight's

the ability to control her strength by her emotions?


what if, destiny is a pony. a spiritual pony who look after ALL of the pony world and live in a dimension that has widows of a normal pony's past, future and present. Destany could also be the reason pony names are so accurate, she sees the new-born pony's destiny and tells the parents. starlight must have illed by the spell, and the tree of harmony scented this and was in-charge while destiny was ill.

This is a valid theory and makes lots of sense

I'm Guessing Destiny's Best Friend Is Harmony


You should make a video on why that Siren in Rainbow Rocks looked like a human version of Starlight Glimmer!

That's not Starlight.. Because Aria IS from equestria

I agree. You know what, maybe when she made the alternate universes, it might've also changed the Human World and made different universes. In one human world, SHE might've been Aria Blaze. Back in Equestria, she got banished from Starswirl, and got sent to the Human World. So in this Universe, she's 1,000's of years old. But thinking about it, the Starlight we know has also been to the human world. So we actually might know 3 forms of Starlight. Actually 4! Evil Pony Starlight, Evil(ish) Human Starlight, Reformed Pony Starlight, and Reformed Human Starlight. This is my theory. -Anaaya (I'm Saumya Khare's Daughter)

actually, Aria Blaze (who does look like starlight) was a siren in my little pony, the pillars defeated all 3 sirens  who were manipulating ponies into hate, these sirens called themselves "the dazzlings" in the pony world too, when they were sirens.

@Alsu Nur ÇAKMAK you ever notice that starlights eye color is similar to trusties coat and tries is similar to starlights same thing with diamond tiara and silver spoon

@Yay Yay I’m also going against my self she was a siren in the pony world

@Just.Your.Average.Viewer. Aria also has darker eyes.

@Just.Your.Average.Viewer. No, Aria Blaze has darker streaks then Equestria girl Starlight and Aria has a more pink skin then Starlight when she went to equestria.

@Just.Your.Average.Viewer. Why would she?

@Yay Yay Dinah a or whatever probably would have made her change it

@Just.Your.Average.Viewer. No, if she was Starlight's human counterpart she would've had the same name.

No wait it’s starlights human counter part

I thought I was the only one who thought that lol

@ARIA TRACY yes you tell her aria blaze my fave syren

Theres actually an equestria girls episode where starlight glimmer goes to the human world 👁👄👁u might not have know doe cuz this was years ago lmao

that one guy <br>You mean Aria Blaze? She was my favourite

that one guy
You mean Aria Blaze? She was my favourite


Why did starlights mane change when she was bad and good

[in Steve Magnet's voice]<br>Silly pony! Don't you know that a makeover changes EVERYTHING?

[in Steve Magnet's voice]
Silly pony! Don't you know that a makeover changes EVERYTHING?

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED

@SuperCharged5 - This isn't logic, she just wanted to change her hairstyle.

@Étéii Nvm I missed the " just kidding"–

Because people with perfectly straight bangs are <b>E V I L</b>

Because people with perfectly straight bangs are *E V I L*

it’s like moondancer, when twilight left her, she got rid of her bangs by tieing up her hair. Except for starlight, she got rid of her bangs to change her personality because she learned that everything she did was wrong

I think because, When she was bad maybe her hair was darker because she was vain. Then when she got defeated her hair glowed up and happy and shiny. Maybe that's the reason, Just a theory.

𝘊𝘢𝘱𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘖𝘳𝘦𝘰

I think because her old mane was similar to Twilight's, the animators decided to change it. Her new mane is far better anyway

Everyone on here trying to be deep with saying it’s symbolism but there’s a much simpler explanation

She became friends with Rarity. Do the math 😂😂

It definitely had nothing to do with the popularity of sunset shimmer in equestria girls.

@Étéii in conclusion bangs are evil so therefore twilight sparkle is secretly evil

maybe because between season 7 and season 8 the animators wanted to be logical and grow them out?

In the village every pony was the same with only a few manestyles when she reformed she decided to live in ponyville where she could do her own manestyle.

I think that she used a new hairstyle to represent a new beginning

@Étéii <b>just gonna visit the hairdresser-</b>

@Étéii *just gonna visit the hairdresser-*

Symbolism, simply put. But her motivation for doing so is also clear. The bangs weren't really her natural hairstyle, she just made it that way to come closer to matching the rest of the village. It was probably easy to associate that hairstyle with the times she was a tyrant, so she let her hair grow out naturally and its true style came through.

She looks way better in her new hairstyle

People change their hairstyles after going through something. She probably didn't want to associate with her past

This show is meant for young audiences so they probably changed the hair to symbolize that Starlight Glimmer was good now

Because Starlight used to wear bangs to make her hairstyle like her village's  (almost) but when she reformed she changed her hair to just be herself

Her original hair was too eeeeeeeeeeeeevil

Wait what wait what wait what wait what wait what her hair OMG that’s so cool

@• •keachii• • omg why did I read that <b>bags</b> XD

@• •keachii• • omg why did I read that *bags* XD

SugaMilk maybe she wanted to try and forget about her past so she changed her hairstyle 🤷♀


Starlight created a new kind of magic so she could become a princess

Well that's just a theory a pony theory lol - I don't know if you saw the newer theory about alicorns - but what if none them are true -


Actually, something is wrong with the destiny magic logic in MLP. The moment Starlight time travelled and changed Rainbow Dash’s backstory, Starlight (the time traveller) should have vanished out of existence, and so should have Twilight. Since Equestria would have been destroyed in any alternate timeline, then according to time their memories would be different because their environment was different. The future was altered so the Time Travelling Starlight and Twilight timeline shouldn’t have existed anymore.

But that’s not what happened. This is important because it means that something magical is maintaining their forms throughout their time travelling.

What could have been powerful enough to traverse time itself?
The Tree of Harmony.
It was present in every altered reality. Apple Jack from the Sombra timeline said that she has lived in Ponyville all her life but she has never seen the map before.

Starlight must have known somehow how powerful the magic in it was.

There is another question I’d like to ask. Why did she decide to use the Tree of Harmony’s magic instead of The Crystal Heart’s?

The Crystal Heart is also ancient and so is it’s magic that it took the magic of 3 alicorns and a  powerful cutie-mark swapping unicorn in order to fix it.


Season 8, particularly the finale, sheds more light on how much control the Tree of Harmony has on things, which I think leans this theory in the direction of it having some control here.<br>Regardless of that, I still think Starlight is the most dangerous villain because Twilight couldn't beat her.  The elements and superpowered-rainbow-magic took care of every other villain, but if Starlight hadn't chosen to change her ways, Twilight couldn't have stopped her.  She even admits this.

Season 8, particularly the finale, sheds more light on how much control the Tree of Harmony has on things, which I think leans this theory in the direction of it having some control here.
Regardless of that, I still think Starlight is the most dangerous villain because Twilight couldn't beat her.  The elements and superpowered-rainbow-magic took care of every other villain, but if Starlight hadn't chosen to change her ways, Twilight couldn't have stopped her.  She even admits this.


"Oh here it is! Sweet revenge, here I come!"<br>The Brony Notion, your humor is the best of humors...

"Oh here it is! Sweet revenge, here I come!"
The Brony Notion, your humor is the best of humors...


Ppl are like
"Yea so she can remove cutie marks, so what?"
Me: I T S  D E E P E R   T H A N  T H A T

Ppl are like
"Yea so she can remove cutie marks, so what?"
Me: *I T S  D E E P E R   T H A N  T H A T*

exactly

she can remove destinies, cutie marks are a pony's destiny.

Why is everyone in the relplys on this comment saying a form of “exactly”<br>But I agree entirely 😊😜😂

Why is everyone in the relplys on this comment saying a form of “exactly”
But I agree entirely 😊😜😂


I have my doubts on starlight I find discord more life threatening remember he is chaos he too once curupted the mane 6 just by snapping his fingers he isntantly took away their wings and horns  and he too can time travel if discord was somehow smart enough to understand this technique he could have easily taken over equestria long ago


That final alternate timeline with the Wasteland was thought ranching and I may have 3 possibilities of how it came to be: the Pony of Shadows escaping starswirl's dimension and unleashing darkness upon Equestria,  the storm king and Daybreaker unleashing their full wrath upon the Equestria going horribly wrong, or Fallout Equestria is Canon!


Putting this theory in a sentence starlight created the butterfly effect in Equestria but fixed it at the end


From what I understand, starlight’s only motive was to prevent the mane 6 getting their cutie marks, and didn’t realise the apocalyptic consequences.

Help me...


Even though this vid was made before season nine, I would have to say grogar is the most dangerous villain, although starlight was the best villain, she’s reformed so I vote for grogar.

Galactia. 😃

actually, that wasnt even grogar the whole time, it was discord, so you never actually got to see grogar. plus, he was too weak to even come back when every other villain could come back.


Starlight, who is by all means a normal unicorn, was able to match an alicorn in magical combat. Yeah, she's dangerous.


I've come to think there might be an important difference between Twi's time-travel shenanigans and Star's shenanigans: Twi didn't know what she was working with, having only gotten a brief and unclear 'warning' from a future self that ended up with a self-fulfilling prophecy where as Star knew exactly what event needed to change for her plan to 'work' [though I think she didn't realize how 'well' it would 'work' given her reaction to the wasteland]


Honestly how her reformation was handled still urks me. But we continuously see her Special Talent is being a super villain. What with the massive stock spells she has that mimicks super villain stock powers (speed clones, mind raping others, bottles of concentrated wrath, for starters).  She really is good at being evil.


I figure that choice would have to come into the equation with Destiny. If Twilight chose not to go back then any particular reality would have stood his ground. The choice to continue attempting to move forward is what ultimately changed Destiny back to its current original or proposed path. It seems to me that action has a pretty heavy hoof in the cause.


Personally, I've always had a problem with the concept of destiny since it logically would negate free will, ie a person couldn't choose anything because destiny all ready predetermined what they would choose, so it wasn't a choice in the first place. For those with a collectivist mindset who only think in terms of the whole and people are just parts of a bigger story this would make sense but for those like me who are more individualistic in nature and see every single person as having their own story and the free will to dictate what that story looks like, the concept of destiny even in something fictional such as this just doesn't sit well with us so naturally, we are more inclined to agree that Starlight has discovered the power to change and shape destiny (in my personal headcanon she could easily be the Princess of Destiny or rather of Free will, subverting Destiney and giving ponies the power to shape their lives for themselves.

@Methuselah Winter Yeah, sure. Who knows what's right. Only problem is, judging tribalism means you are judging human nature. It's like judging a lion for hunting, what else can it do?<br>Wanting to be alone is a normal human response to an overbearing ammount of stimulus. In the days of living in the wild in closed off, unified, tribes of alike people, we coped much easier since our brains only had to process what to do to survive and who was friend or foe. Introversion, therefore, is purely an invention or a construct of civilization/society. Our minds simply cannot comprehend the ammount of faces that surround us every day, and the ammount of differences we have. At least, that's what I think.

@Methuselah Winter Yeah, sure. Who knows what's right. Only problem is, judging tribalism means you are judging human nature. It's like judging a lion for hunting, what else can it do?
Wanting to be alone is a normal human response to an overbearing ammount of stimulus. In the days of living in the wild in closed off, unified, tribes of alike people, we coped much easier since our brains only had to process what to do to survive and who was friend or foe. Introversion, therefore, is purely an invention or a construct of civilization/society. Our minds simply cannot comprehend the ammount of faces that surround us every day, and the ammount of differences we have. At least, that's what I think.

@Another Youtube account Humans can choose their actions regardless of instincts or experiences. We aren’t mindless animals without consciousness and reason.
There are different schools of thought regarding these things and yours isn’t anymore right than mine.
Personally I think tribalism and us vs them mentality is the source of most of conflicts. Also, I can enjoy being alone. That doesn’t mean I completely Isolate myself from
All human contact it just means I derive more joy from spending my time by myself than with others. There is nothing wrong with that.

But you don't have free will. It's bullshit. Everything you believe in or think was either because of what influenced you in your youth or what you are being influenced right now. Same with decisions or actions. Every move you make stems from reasons above or human nature, that is, instinct. All of these things are normal, it's in a human's best interest to find a tribe to fit in, to cooperate and to feel safe. Not doing so is lunacy. No sane person wants to end up desolate.


I think it’s still the loop and Starlight Glimmer didn’t break destiny. All in all, I think it’s so complicated it would take a far greater understanding of destiny and loop holes then we have today.


Rewatching this, I am wondering if this subconciously inspired my mega huge Starlight vs Detiny fic. Seems hard to call it just coincidence. So I guess I owe you Sawtooth! Thanks!


Actually! It's not starlight that had the magic to change destiny, it's the tree of harmony, she didn't only use starswearls spell, she also used the map, in other words she made some adjustments to the spell and used the tree of harmonys magic to activate the spell... The tree of harmony and the map have a thing for friendship, which is why they allowed starlight to temporarily break destiny, just so they, with the help of twilight, can teach starlight about the magic of friendship!
So although starlight has the knowledge of changing destiny, she doesn't have the power, in fact... No pony does!
It was pure magic of friendship that had that kind of power and used it to help starlight (or rather bring her to the good side to restore harmony from her part)
The tree knew starlight is a powerful pony, but instead of seeing her as a threat, it went through exreams (going as far as breaking destiny and potentially destroying the world) just to bring starlight to the good side, knowing very well how beneficial she will be (as we've seen through the rest of the show)


Starlight was definitely quite dangerous and formidable so it's a good thing that she reformed as she was
the one who foiled Chrysalis's plans and reformed the Changelings. Starlight will likely end up becoming
an alicorn and a princess at some point at the rate she's going.


The map wasn't part of "destiny" it was just connected to the spell. Let me explain. Starlight is amazing, she has magical ability more powerful then I've ever seen in another pony, and she's smart too. Smart enough to take the necessary precautions for if her magic fails. Like, what if the spell backfired, or Starlight ran out of magical stamina to keep the spell going? That's where the map came in. I believe that the map was a sort of backup generator for if she ran out of stamina or could no longer preform the spell, to keep them all in the past if her magic stops working. Of course that's assuming that Starlight needed to constantly keep the spell going in order to keep them in the past, and it didn't just sustain itself forever, but i'm willing to assume that since it's not a stretch considering that the original spell, you know, Starswirl the bearded's spell that she modified to make this one, had a time limit on it of a few seconds. Of course i'd assume that this spell lasted longer then a few seconds, but still with a time limit. So basically the map wasn't connected to destiny, it was a landline...a backup generator to keep the spell going.


What does starlight's cutie mark stand for?<br>Toothpaste and stars?

What does starlight's cutie mark stand for?
Toothpaste and stars?

So her talent is dental hygine for stars, yep she broke desnou

I guess starlight’s destiny is making tooth paste :p

I guess starlight’s destiny is making tooth paste :p

@Day breaker It's pretty cool actually, I dis a bit of study on it and determined that twilight has more powerful base magic, but at the time starlight most likely had more powerful magic, but their sheer knowledge was equal but in different aspects of magical knowledge. I don't know why starlight was apparently a magic fighter but maybe that time she spent out of the lime-light, she spent practicing magical combat. That's my take on why twilight couldn't Beat her. What do you Think? Got any ideas or disagreements?

I think of it as stars and green magic mist🤣 Hilarious right?

@Coffee cake3548 are you ember lol she said that they both look like the same ponies and I laughed so hard at that part

Hahahhahahaha tootpase and stars ☪ this is me bea

Hahahhahahaha tootpase and stars ☪ this is me bea

Writing spell and making it happened she can write a spell so quickly so I think star light Have more power than Sparkle Cuz she can do the age spell

I think it mean's her talent of magic and trick's

I think it mean's her talent of magic and trick's

@༘₊· օքɦɛɛɮօք ffg vvghf used for a variety and

@༘₊· օքɦɛɛɮօք ffg vvghf used for a variety and

doodlecakememelord 3548 yes I know I was gonna say that to before I saw this we can read each other’s mines~ never mind that’s creepy

Her cutie mark means a much more powerful magic

Her cutie mark means a much more powerful magic

As a pisces I'm a hippogriff if you're pisces your a hippogriff my big sister solved it

I smell like tuna Im locked in a basement help me

No. It's Colgate and some purple whipped cream on it.

No. It's Colgate and some purple whipped cream on it.

It represents magic like  twilight magic

It represents magic like  twilight magic

Starlight's cutiemark is cutiemark magic

Starlight's cutiemark is cutiemark magic

The aqua part represents starlight and the purple part represents glimmer

Those swirly swirls were probably glimmering magic and and the star is like twilight's magic

Spells, like twilight. Wonder if there sisters though.

Spells, like twilight. Wonder if there sisters though.

Its a glimmer, with her magical aura around it.

Its a glimmer, with her magical aura around it.

I think I see 3 cutie marks if you look closely

I think I see 3 cutie marks if you look closely

@Coffee cake3548 that kind of cutie mark is powerful

@Coffee cake3548 that kind of cutie mark is powerful

I think it represents her magic stealing magic [cutie marks]
The blue part looks like her magic stealing the stars which represent 6he magic of cutie marks
Cutie marks= Destiny
When you think about it, if here life was destined to forward this way, she should have become the princess of destiny

Lol I thought I was the only person who though that

Lol I thought I was the only person who though that

NotALlama  no silly she’s well it is magic since it has sparkles and then you know every single villain has like a little twirl in the middle I mean twirl and sometimes it kind of means that they’re going to change nice or go to prison obviously that didn’t happen to starlight that happened to a little pony like seriously she was evil no cutie mark

MaMaSiMoSa I have no Idea what your saying-

MaMaSiMoSa I have no Idea what your saying-

It might mean that shes good at magic or shes good at stealing cutie marks and not getting rid of her

Her name is star light glimmer right? So that means...<br>Her cutie mark is a glimmering star dashing up leaving a trail of her hair color

Her name is star light glimmer right? So that means...
Her cutie mark is a glimmering star dashing up leaving a trail of her hair color

Well obviously her true destiny is being a dentist and she ignored it

Kawaii_ Star i’m triggered to Kawaii_ star

Kawaii_ Star i’m triggered to Kawaii_ star

I’m very triggered Magic it’s not toothpaste and stars

I’m very triggered Magic it’s not toothpaste and stars

Well it’s twilights cutie mark and the magic coming out so I think it mean that her talent is controlling the cutie mark

I always thought it was her ability to manipulate cutie marks

@Coffee cake3548 I didnt even see this until like 30 seconds after i posted my comment XD

Maybe the blue toothpaste stuff is actually magic thats used to take off cutie marks and the star is the cutie mark? idk just a guess

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NotALlama  no it’s her horn magic and a star

NotALlama  no it’s her horn magic and a star

According to her, the toothpaste thing is a glimmer XD

According to her, the toothpaste thing is a glimmer XD

It’s probably meaning that removing cutie marks

It’s probably meaning that removing cutie marks

doodlecakememelord 3548  It’s more of a glimmer she said that to ember

Nooo it’s her fave type of toothpaste! Duh!!!

Nooo it’s her fave type of toothpaste! Duh!!!

Lol🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣so true🤣😂🤣

Lol🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣so true🤣😂🤣

*Insert super duper mega ultra cool name here*

The toothpaste looking thing is the magic taking away a cutie mark O.O

Well actually it’s Twilights cutie mark with her own decorations! DUH

NotALlama  her name her cutie mark means her name a glimmer

its the from your teeth because you brushed them with her toothpaste

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She got her cutie mark by brushing her teeth then 😂

She got her cutie mark by brushing her teeth then 😂

ᖶᕼᘿ ᘜᓰᖇᒪ ᖶᕼᗩᖶ ᕵᒪᗩᖻᗱ ᘜᗩᘻᘿS

No, it’s around magic— no wait...what DOES it stand for??? S;-;

No it's magic she twilight as a alicorn
couldn't defeat her with magic
she had to talk her into helping her
so Starlight should be a alicorn
her cutie mark stands for magic

NotALlama  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

NotALlama  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Starlight actually ur cutie mark stands for ur magical ability’s like twilight XD<br>I might be wrong but it’s just a guess XD

Starlight actually ur cutie mark stands for ur magical ability’s like twilight XD
I might be wrong but it’s just a guess XD

My cutie mark stands for being a magic student of twilight why is everypony so mean

NotALlama that’s exactly what I was thinking when I first saw starlight

I think it's stands for her ability to change cutie marks. The diamond thingy represents something like magic(similar to Twilight Sparkle ) the toothpaste thingeys  represent the cutie mark being taken or reversed.

NotALlama No. It stands for toothpaste and her obsession for kites

<b>NotALlama DENTAL TRIGGERD RIGHT NOW XD</b>

*NotALlama DENTAL TRIGGERD RIGHT NOW XD*

It's a wand and a star it stands for magic

                           DERP):

It's a wand and a star it stands for magic

                           DERP):


"He just kinda stopped posting, he's probably dead..."<br>~The Brony Notion, 2016

"He just kinda stopped posting, he's probably dead..."
~The Brony Notion, 2016


Seeing as the tree was made long before any of the events of the main 6 and all of the altercations were made after the main 6 were alive I think that could explain why the tree was in every reality.


That's why she's my favorite character<br>I liked her better as a villain tho :(

That's why she's my favorite character
I liked her better as a villain tho :(

@Gaurav Garg THEY JUST LIKE HER AS A VILLIAN AND THAT DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE A VILLIAN 🐸🐸

She is a nice “good guy” but she was a huge threat as a villain. If she still had those powers then,

Adios bad guys

She is a nice “good guy” but she was a huge threat as a villain. If she still had those powers then,

*Adios bad guys*


Look at it this way<br>It was destined for starlight to break destiny and twilight to break it so what I'm saying is that in that episode everything was destined to happen.

Look at it this way
It was destined for starlight to break destiny and twilight to break it so what I'm saying is that in that episode everything was destined to happen.


You know when someone time travels in the past to tell their old self something, doesn't that mean that the person time travelling was also told this by another future self so they shouldn't have to time travel if the person time travelling was already told right?


Imagine Starlight going as far as a millennia ago, and did something so the pegasi, earth ponies, and unicorns could exist without depending on each other, hence never seeing eye to eye. Then she went a little bit of time ahead and prevented the pillars from planting the tree of harmony, or them even being born at all. Then she went back to 20 years back from the present day and stopped the rainboom. The damage would be colossal, and I can't imagine how Twilight's gonna fix all this.


if she went back even further in time, and she stopped the planting of the seed to grow the tree of harmony, she could have REALLY changed destiny


Also notice how Twilight admits that she couldn't beat Starlight's magic. The literal embodiment of magic, an alicorn princess, couldn't handle a backwater no name pony. Starlight was the best villain and should be nominated to be an alicorn like Sunset Shimmer.


i was thinking the exact same thing about Starlight Glimmer, her powers may look simple, but can change anything, time travel is a complex something

+Brony Boutique 101 yes but im just a brony since Dezember and watched all Episode :P. i know a lot about MLP but im not to long in the fandome

+Rin Tezuka ok it would be interessting to See what starlight would do in an alternite "universe". but that time travel creates alternative universes is not possible. think abaut it it would need As much energy that our universe needs but you cant create or destroy energy its just not possible (exept its magic, but f*ck magic)

+Brony Boutique 101 its magic you dont need any more answers

+Brony Boutique 101 but i have one question. why is the map or the tree still active?

+Brony Boutique 101 it can but not for long

i have to disagree. time travel is not realy that strong. if she changes the past there was not the same future and she could not change the past again. so i mean the normal time line would dissapear and so starlight. that gives to posible solutions. first loops<br> seccond it will fix itself like in the series

i have to disagree. time travel is not realy that strong. if she changes the past there was not the same future and she could not change the past again. so i mean the normal time line would dissapear and so starlight. that gives to posible solutions. first loops
 seccond it will fix itself like in the series


Quick idea: I frequently have really big theories for almost every episode, and I was wondering if I could collaborate on this channel, sort of like how Game Theory and film theory does. This would allow me to fill in these dead spots you go through, and help your channel grow. Please reply and I can set up a Skype call or other.


'i feel like the magic of destiny really did self-correct. Starlight just made it work a little harder because of the constant, repeated time travel jumps and alterations. She specifically sought out to change the destiny of the (arguably) 6 most important ponies in the world, who's destinies were tied to the most powerful powerful magical artifacts in the world.

They were destined to defeat nightmare moon, discord, sombra, chrysalis, and tirek. That means those events MUST happen. The fact that events changed when they time traveled speaks to Starlights magical capabilities in being able to alter destiny. However, the fact that events changed every single time i think speaks to the deeper magic working as hard as it can to correct the damage Starlight almost did to destiny. Nothing says that those villians weren't still defeated by Twilight and her friends in different ways, that's simply assumed by the audience.

I like to think if things had continued with jumps back in time diverging destiny more and more, it's possible the deep magic may have "snapped" away from Twilight and her friends and attached themselves to the next best group of ponies available, correcting the destiny as best it could. There's no way to determine if this is true or not, but it makes the most sense with the information provided. It's confirmed by Celestia and Luna that Tirek found a way to escape because of Ceberus leaving the gates of Tartarus during the events of "It's about time." I find it possible, even plausible that the REAL thing that caused Twilight to travel back in time was Tirek escaping with no forseeable solution other than to try and change the past. She traveled back far enough to give herself some prep-time, but was unable to specify what event she sould be prepared for. Because of Twilights paranoia she was ready for something, anything to go wrong and was thus prepped to return Ceberus to his post. Tirek's escape was inevitable due to destiny, but the deep magic allowed for a small change in the timeline for this to occur much later than the original destiny allowed.

But that's just a Theory. A FIM:Theory


I understand what you said .... Starlight DID go back in time! She DID change something!

You did say destiny allowed itself to be broken

But I don't think that's the case

When starlight 'changed' the past, she did truly change something, but always got reverted back

By the end of it all

Nothing had changed

Equestria was still the same as ever when they got back

In the past, everything is the same for 'unreformed' starlight, nothing is stopping her from time traveling like present starlight initially did.

Nothing had changed

If starlight DID make the mane six never form

Starlight would be in danger from all the villains running around and wouldn't have time to enslave a village

Even without the villains, the mane six wouldn't be there to stop starlight, starlight would have no need for revenge, starlight would have no need to use the time machine, there would've been no loop

When starlight used the time machine, she hadn't changed anything, past her is still going to use the time machine, the mane six will exist back then

I don't believe starlight broke destiny

Infact, I believe starlight using the time machine

WAS DESTINY

I understand what you said .... Starlight *DID* go back in time! She *DID* change something!

You did say destiny allowed itself to be broken

But I don't think that's the case

When starlight 'changed' the past, she did truly change something, but always got reverted back

By the end of it all

Nothing had changed

Equestria was still the same as ever when they got back

In the past, everything is the same for 'unreformed' starlight, nothing is stopping her from time traveling like present starlight initially did.

Nothing had changed

If starlight *DID* make the mane six never form

Starlight would be in danger from all the villains running around and wouldn't have time to enslave a village

Even without the villains, the mane six wouldn't be there to stop starlight, starlight would have no need for revenge, starlight would have no need to use the time machine, there would've been *no loop*

When starlight used the time machine, she hadn't changed anything, past her is still going to use the time machine, the mane six will exist back then

I don't believe starlight broke destiny

Infact, I believe starlight using the time machine

*WAS DESTINY*


I know I am VERY late, but I just wanted to add a thought: What if there are many destinies, and Starlight broke the destiny of equestria. But Twilights destiny still was to reform Starlight?


The over use of the word "destiny" aside. The idea that time is self correcting is interesting, even allowing for some examples of chaos theory to play out but ultimately always returning to the predetermined events. The momentary shifts to alternate timelines for Twilight's perspective could have been only apart of a larger time loop, because friendship did win out in the end. That's if there is only one time line and one destined future. Meaning free will doesn't mean anything because no matter what you do the future is already predetermined. So in the long run, Twilight had to stop her by letting Starlight stop herself.

Starlight's ability of messing with cutie marks could just be a school of magic anyone could learn if the information is available and the talent and interest is there, not a specialized ability only she has.


Destiny had always played a role, if the map never told the mane 6 to go to Starlights village, Starlight would’ve never been encouraged to time traveled to seek revenge. The map saw that Starlight was the first friendship problem for Twilight to solve in order to become Twilight’s first pupil who could inspires Twilight to start her friendship school even after Naysay shut it down. Without the school then there wouldn’t be generational friendship magic after the mane 6.


To be completely honest, I like Starlight as a villain; and I'm cool with her being a reformed villain. It's that fact that she's a main character. She's just painfully plain. They try so hard to make her interesting but, they just can't. Even Starburst (I think that was his name) was more interesting than Starlight.


Favorite pony: Rainbow Dash
Favorite Princess: Luna
Favorite villain: Starlight Glimmer and Sunset Shimmer
Favorite pet: Spike

Favorite pony: Starlight Glimmer
Favorite Princess: Luna
Favorite villain(After season 9): Queen Chrysalis
Favorite pet: Gummy

Favourite Pony: Pinkie Pie
Favorite Princess: Best Princess (Luna)
Favourite villain: Cozy Glow and discord
Favourite Pet: Spike

Favorite pony: Twilight Sparkle
Favorite princess: Princess Luna
Favorite villain: King Sombra
Favorite pet: Owlicious
Favorite background pony: Vinyl Scratch

Favorite pony rainbow dash
Favorite princess luna
Favorite villan starlight and nightmare moon
Favorite pet rarity,s cat forgot her name

Pony: Maud Pie
Princess: Celestia
Villain: Discord
Pet: Tank

Favourite pony: Rainbow Dash
Favourite princess: Princess Cadence
Favourite villain: Sunset Shimmer
Favourite pet: Winona I guess

Alison Orozco No way favourite pony twilight favourite twilight


What is even stranger is that the Tree itself is manmade (ponymade). This wasn't a factor back when you posted this, but the Pillars made the Tree.

But there seems to be something deeper about the Tree and the Map that the Pillars never knew about. Did something like Destiny take control of the Tree? Did the Tree develop a consciousness completely aside from the Pillars' intentions? Or is this just another plot hole that happens when writers cycle in and out of the show?


I would like to point out that Starlight also did her evil deeds on purpose. she wanted to enslave the village they met her in, she wanted revenge against the Mane Six by causing all of those doomed timelines, the majority of which likely had many casualties, with the exception of Discord. Discord however only focused on his own amusement, he didn't mean to cause suffering but was having too much fun to care, and now that Fluttershy gave him a reason to care about others, he is truly reformed, he even expresses remorse when Tirek betrayed him and captured Fluttershy. Discord is more benevolent then Starlight. also, while we are on the topic of dangerous/powerful, Discord can't die physically but Starlight can, so I'd argue that Discord is more powerful then Starlight for that distinction, he is immortal while she isn't.


Starlight could have easily destroyed everything if Twilight hadn't convinced her to not. Her plan was the smartest, because obviously if you go back in time, it's nearly impossible for them to stop you, so I agree she was the best villain :)


Regardless of all that, that castle was still destined to be “offensive”


That episode created a multiverse in the series, which I've spent way time contemplating these timelines


I think that what happened was Starlight spell and the map was it caused a feedback loop that wasn't allowing reality to continue until the proper Destiny was underway. Each time Twilight and Spike went back in time, the tree of Harmony in the map new whether or not the proper Destiny was going to happen and whether or not to allow the loop to continue. Of course, once Starlight glimmer had made the appropriate choice, things return to normal and picked up where they left off now that the loop has been canceled.


Basically...Starlight wrote her own destiny by breaking destiny and then fixing it...wow


Hey, Trixie and Starlight become friends in Season . . . 6? 5? I forgot . . .
But point is, both have changed others' cutie marks . . . Trixie on a small scale and Starlight on a large one.
In Magic Duel, Trixie manages to change Snails into an old man - and his cutie mark into an old snail too. Admittedly, this was because of the Alicorn Amulet's amplification, but both used magic as antagonists to alter other ponies' cutie marks (or just one in Trixie's case).


Have anyone noticed that at the end of EG 3, Twilight says that she was in a TIME TRAVEL. And the movie was released after season 5, where Twilight and Starlight TRAVEL IN TIME. CHAN CHAN CHAN

@Ruby Rosepetal It doesn't need to at all. It just tells us that the timeframe LITERALLY occurred while the time travel battle

What?! You seriously opened my eyes to max! Omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg this needs to be theorized by bring notion!

it was in the last episode, near the movie


Starlight is most likely the most powerful villain, you are right. But, what about the movie? Where Storm Dude takes over everything BUT Equestria and then does it? Maybe that could change your theory.


Destiny reminds me of Sans. Corrupted(killed, in Sans' case) a few times by the player, but always remembers and acts like a glitch in that sense and in the sense they both have deeper meanings.


Yea, but they made her good.. I would've loved to see her as a recurring villain.. or just win. What really pisses me off, is that the villains never really win, in any series, films or books. I think they should..


FINALLY!!  A villan that was actually defeated, WITH THE MAGIC OF FRIEND SHIP!! They’re usually fixed with rainbows.


And now consider something even MORE disturbing:

The Tree of Harmony controls what the Cutie Map says and does, and the ponies blindly follow the map's advice and instructions without question. I repeat - WITHOUT QUESTION.

This means that the pony race is blindly leaving its fate in the hands of a magic tree.

What if this tree has some sort of long-term ulterior motive? What if it has a dark ultimate fate planned for Equestria and the world beyond?

I mean, just look at what the tree does to anyone or anything it considers a threat to 'harmony', or more to the point, the tree itself. It uses an otherworldly light or other such mystical powers to DRAIN THE LIFE from those who stand against its ideals. The Mean Six, Tirek and even Discord, for the Elements of Harmony are, much like the Cutie Map, an EXTENSION of the Tree of Harmony, and it was with their power that Discord was turned to stone. Oh, and let's not forget that they were used to banish Luna to the moon, drove away the vines caused by Discord's chaos seeds, and I don't know what else!

And we are to believe that the Tree of Harmony has the pony race's best interests at heart?

NO.

The Tree of Harmony is a primordial being, and one bent only on self-preservation. It uses the ponies as a means to an end in a pseudo-symbiotic relationship. They are just puppets being pulled by its branch-like strings, and once the tree has all the desired pieces set in place, it will cast the ponies aside and reshape Equestria in its own image, and all who try to resist will be devoured by the tree's power. 'Harmony' is not the status-quo. It is not a time of peace. It is the most dangerous time of all. It is the time when the tree is consolidating its power uninterrupted, and once that power reaches its peak, life as the ponies know it... will be no more.

Seriously, why does nobody else talk about this?


If Starlight Glimmer would truly break destiny she would have to be aware she is a cartoon character and have power to "change the script" (of course I mean it, like, that creators in reality still control her but in the show she has powers to bend it :p). Because if you want to break destiny you have to be able to do things not being controled by it. So Starlight is either self-aware or she did not broke destiny


Discord could almost certainly alter destiny. Look at what he did to equestria. If he he could do that in the spatial dimensions, he could easily shuffle and alter the events in the temporal dimension.


And with time, no matter what you do it was destined. Starlight was destined to destroy the first reality, because no matter what the timeline is the same. It will never change because in the end, all actions lead up to a single moment. changing time hasn't changed the destiny of the world, it fulfilled it. It was meant to be that precise timeline.


Starlight is the most dangerous villain in MLP.<br>The most dangerous villain ever is Bill Cipher.

Starlight is the most dangerous villain in MLP.
The most dangerous villain ever is Bill Cipher.

Gravity Falls is a rip-off of Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated

@Khoi Minh Phan yea your right hitler sucks

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☾𝔹𝕝𝕒𝕔𝕜𝕃𝕠𝕥𝕦𝕤☾

It's fine, I just had to put you in your place.

Vijay Prime okay sorry i do like gravity falls but i dont think bill cipher is the strongest he is pretty powerful though and i would not say i was a fan i just like the show a little

cheesy pancake shut up you no good hater

Z4NY Z0MB13 silence¡¡¡ you no good gravity falls fan

I just proved that Discord is the most powerful!

The Lava Legend So true because

WE'LL MEET AGAIN
DON'T WHERE
DON'T WHEN
BUT I AM SURE WE'LL MEET AGAIN SOME SUNNY DAY!

Musiic Infiinity <br>But he comes back in a different form every time

Musiic Infiinity
But he comes back in a different form every time

Leslie Cruz
- Donald Trump is just the present
- The most dangerous villian is Adolf Hitler

I think the most dangerous real life villain is Satan, he's the one who caused evil to plague our world in the first place.

The Lava Legend no the most dangerous villan is chara

The most dangerous villain is villainy itself.

+The Lava Legend

Unlike Sombra and Tirek though...  Starlight Glimmer wasn't pure evil, she'd likely be devastated if she actually saw what she did to Equestria in those timelines....   Sombra on the other hand is not only an intellectual badass but also a complete monster...  even going far to attempt to kill a child to get what he wants (Watch the crystal empire again and notice that Sombra was aiming the sharp end of the dark crystal directly at Spike who is technically a child....  not to mention him licking his lips, anticipating Spike's death).     Tirek's betrayal from his brother would have scarred him to not trust anyone...  plus he'd grow large and strong enough to be considered a kaiju....  and he likely wouldn't show mercy to anyone he would ever come across.

+The Lava Legend Technically the most dangerous villains in MLP is a tie between King Sombra and Tirek with his full power...   Discord would count if he wasn't such a joke.

@ALemon 627 That's pretty ligit, but I meant the antagonist to a story. Not us. I still tip my hat to you, though!

@ALemon 627 So true, even though they're talking about cartoons.

The most dangerous villain is us. We are literally killing ourselves with smoking, drugs, fridges (OZONE LAYER PROBLEM), guns and weapons and stuff like that. We are our own enemy

+Michael Piangozza he is a character the real villain either Donald trump or justin bieber

@Fantage PowerFluffs Dat Weirdmaggedon doe

+The Lava Legend  no hes not shut up I am

Bill cipher is a cartoon <br>the most dangerous villain is Donald trump

Bill cipher is a cartoon
the most dangerous villain is Donald trump


I don't know if anyone has said this, but one thing is missing from this video.
The table map, which is a direct link to the tree, was needed to finish starlights spell. The table was part of a greater whole, connected to the world of equatria all at once, and since the tree existed before, during, and after each timeline, so did the connection to the table.
Everywhere and nowhere. -the Doctor


I think starlight broke destiny, but there was a deeper destiny. Kind of like a candy. The wrapper, the outer shell, the sweet middle, and then the almost-unbreakable jawbreaker thingy. there was the destiny that was changed with the spell, the other attempts, the almost complete destruction, and then the return to reality. see? it all comes together!


For me, destiny/fate is something that happens without outside interference. Think like this. Twilight is destined to get her cuitemark, she is destined to refom Nightmare, she is destined to Reform Glimmer. Right up until someone comes from a parralel dimension or somesuch. They can do whatever the heck they want. They can depose Alicorns, they can destroy the world(as Starlight) or make it so, that the Elements are not needed, preempting or fighting the threats. If it makes any sence, destiny at that time was destined to get broken, and then fixed. While you might think it WAS broken, it WASN'T. It would only change with outside interference.


also, technically the mane 6 never defeated glimmer like they did to discord and tirek. they did not banish her or imprison her in stone. some ponies just used talent to push a bunch of snow over her, breaking the  jars that held thier cutie marks. Starlight was so embarassed that she ran. so ya, starlight was a threat


Sawtooth Waves: Starlight is the most dangerous villain.<br>Tirek: Sawtooth you are going to regret saying that!

Sawtooth Waves: Starlight is the most dangerous villain.
Tirek: Sawtooth you are going to regret saying that!


Do I need to remind everyone what send the mane 6 to the village in the first place? The map. The whole finale was nothing more than yet another case of destiny taking its course. Especially because by the end, the past remained unchanged.

Oh, and twilights first attempt at time travel proves practically nothing. The only thing it proves is that time travel results in a loop. There is no evidence that the loop must be closed within a single instance of time travel. If anything, the presence of the map proves the exact opposite. Sooner of later, the loop will be closed regardless of what happens. With the only possible lasting impact being on the present and the future.


I like to think that Destiny knew what it was doing and made it Twilights Destiny to become powerful and stop starlight.


Sawtooth: Starlight is most dangerous villain.

Cozy Glow: Am I a joke to you?


A think there's a distinction that needs to be addressed before moving forward, the difference between Fate and Destiny. Destiny is the end goal, that is to say, wants it has been reached that's where the journey ends. Fate is, for lack of a better term, the paths we take to reach Destiny. Starlight's spell didn't actually do anything Destiny, she made it so that the time travel would make a locked set of Fates from the past inaccessible to the present thus changing the pathways taken as a whole. In a sense, Starlight's magic never hand any effect on Destiny, to begin with, it just had a more visible effect on Fate. Feel free to discuss this one with me.


I think Destiny still beats time, so even when she time-traveled to change history, that destiny was still there. She was destined to do that, and twilight was destined to try and stop her over and over again, until she finally made it, because she was destined to. I could go on and on about how EVERTHING is determined by destiny and all of that no-free-will shit, but I'm really tired. That stuff is kinda logical, go think it through yourself. What bothers me more is that when they traveled back in time, they didn't meet their past selves, and that all of these alternating time lines are probably still out there, unsolved. Or how those little actions, like an alicorn talking to rainbow dash, nothing else, changed the timeline so much (I don't know which timeline it was, but they were all quite different. How were the other villains beaten?) Can Twilight go back to these alternate universes and help the ponies there or is it all just wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey? Where was twilight in the universes (maybe I just don't remember), and if your theorie about pinkie pie is correct, did she have her pinkie sense in the alternate timelines as well? Since she'd nerver use the bell, the magic would never spread... And why didn't she become an alicorn when she used the bell?  There was a lot of magic from all three tribes, and even magic specifically from other alicorns! Or why didn't celestia and Luna un-become alicorns?<br>Loads of Questions, probably some answers, but more tiredness and that beats answers. Good night.

I think Destiny still beats time, so even when she time-traveled to change history, that destiny was still there. She was destined to do that, and twilight was destined to try and stop her over and over again, until she finally made it, because she was destined to. I could go on and on about how EVERTHING is determined by destiny and all of that no-free-will shit, but I'm really tired. That stuff is kinda logical, go think it through yourself. What bothers me more is that when they traveled back in time, they didn't meet their past selves, and that all of these alternating time lines are probably still out there, unsolved. Or how those little actions, like an alicorn talking to rainbow dash, nothing else, changed the timeline so much (I don't know which timeline it was, but they were all quite different. How were the other villains beaten?) Can Twilight go back to these alternate universes and help the ponies there or is it all just wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey? Where was twilight in the universes (maybe I just don't remember), and if your theorie about pinkie pie is correct, did she have her pinkie sense in the alternate timelines as well? Since she'd nerver use the bell, the magic would never spread... And why didn't she become an alicorn when she used the bell?  There was a lot of magic from all three tribes, and even magic specifically from other alicorns! Or why didn't celestia and Luna un-become alicorns?
Loads of Questions, probably some answers, but more tiredness and that beats answers. Good night.


Um, Starlight Glimmer got a plot power upgrade so she can seem like a threat to Twilight, who easily over power Starlight in her debut. Because of this plot power upgrade, Twilight has to go though with a peaceful solution, which would mean Starlight would have to be redeemed for this passive solution to work.

4 Alicorns are slightly more powerful than all the ponies in Equestia, no only one can't take out a single unicorn. That's not saying she's powerful, that's plot armor so we can have a peaceful solution.


Now that you said it, makes sense that starlight "broke" Destiny i mean the map probably was marking a friendship problem


The key detail about time travel is HOW you time travel. Some forms of time travel will be permanent, others are temporary.


Whether or not you can change destiny depends on if destiny is just a passive thing that happens and is therefore something that can be controlled if you know what you are doing, or if it is an active force in it's own right (basically a god of sorts) and can control you. Either Equestria dodged a bullet when Twilight got through to Starlight or Destiny was playing both of them for it's own ends.


Her talent is to change destiny... which is why she’s the perfect councilor and head mare of school. Now that she’s reformed, she can change it for the better.


In later seasons, we see that Cozy Glow is actually the most dangerous villain. She defeated Starlight without any effort and she's only a filly, for Celestia's sake.


Read the journal of the 2 sisters. Star swirl actually created a time AND age travel spell. Read it and u will know


Honestly I think starlight needed closure... She got it through revenge but she needed closure.


Here is what I think. When starlight was breaking destiny it was destiny to have that happen. Remember that destiny is something that is meant to happen and it's something you can't change. No matter how hard you try you can never break destiny. There is no possible way. So it was destiny for all of that to happen. Even though it seems like she truly broke destiny and twilight helped her fix it it was all destiny for that to happen. I like to think that destiny is just the future. So destiny had a big part in that episode because it was destiny for all of that to happen. Well that's just what I think.


I ALWAYS knew Starlight was the most powerful unicorn in Equestria


That would be actually stupid thought.<br>Because Everyone is the architect of his own fortune

That would be actually stupid thought.
Because Everyone is the architect of his own fortune

• Sam • how about friendshiptale or magictale or ponytale.

but that element would be the best element and the best element sooo

well idk but starlight and sunset should definitely get a special part, don’t cha agree?

If we need element of destiny I think sunset and starlight can do it now twilight in da future should do this:
Call the mane 6,young mane 6,sunset and starlight
They make a circle and sunset and starlight got their own elements of harmony belt thing
How do u think this idea??

omg and starlight could be the princess of destiny as it is new sort of magic

wowie this comment is so old. yeah y'all are right its not really about friendship but maybe the elements have a play in destiny idk.

Yeah but it's not related to harmony or friendship

shellisdabell boi could be sunset shimmers sense  she can read minds.

There could be an element of <b>ANXIETY</b>

Actually That can’t happen, Destiny is magic, magic is destiny, so if your saying that there could be a destiny of destiny? Ok then, but it’s not authentic

There's a temporary element of friendship for sunset and starlight..... FORGIVNESS

Shelley Shells Draws but it’s the magic of friend ship not destiny

AAAAAH!!!! SO THATS HOW STARLIGHT FITS IN!!!!!!

@bluej3y soul traits, is this the one undertale related thing besides from MINE!?!?!?

Shelley Shells Draws The elements are like soul traits i might make MLPtale!

Shelley Shells Draws OMG YESSSSSSSSSSSSS


4 year late theory:
Starlight broke destiny, but destiny was restored. Therefore, Starlight breaking destiny was destiny itself as well. If she had gone back in time and stopped her friend from getting his cutie mark until after she did, that would have been breaking her destiny of breaking destiny. (Jeez, that sounds confusing in my head as well-) All in all, Starlight breaking destiny was her destiny, and it also was destiny to  fix destiny.

4 year late theory:
Starlight broke destiny, but destiny was restored. Therefore, Starlight breaking destiny *was* destiny itself as well. If she had gone back in time and stopped her friend from getting his cutie mark until after she did, that would have been breaking her destiny of breaking destiny. (Jeez, that sounds confusing in my head as well-) All in all, Starlight breaking destiny was her destiny, and it also was destiny to  fix destiny.


Plus somehow she became an alcorn that didn’t happen to starlight I don’t think she sure was the one who would’ve tested that but now she has more magic


well, it makes sense, if Twilight hadn't gotten in the way, the future would probably still messed up by Starlight Glimmer, the Map of the Tree of Harmony was going to still in the new present, but nobody else will know (or probably at some point another Twilight from the new future could be curious about the map and somehow discover the way to go back in the past, but that's just speculation)


What is Starlight the princess of?

Let's be real, she's really fricking strong, and if Twilight didn't exist she would be the princess of magic, even though that's not her power, it's friendship. I've been trying to piece this together for a while, what would Starlight be the princess of? Well, you mentioned destiny, and her whole backstory has to do with changing other ponies destiny. What if, one day, that's what she does, and she roams the world as a metaphor for destiny always changing, walking around as symbolism for that. This would also fit because Starlight changed 2 times, like destiny can. She changed when she was a filly, believing cutie marks ruined her life. Then, she changed when the main 6 reformed her. It's very loose, but if you ever do see this I believe you can theorize better than I can, as I don't know the show as well as you do apparently.


The time-travel thing is nothing but noise, it just got her a tie with Twilight, she didn't got to fight the entire main-cast like every other villain.<br>Change my mind.

The time-travel thing is nothing but noise, it just got her a tie with Twilight, she didn't got to fight the entire main-cast like every other villain.
Change my mind.


Oh I know~ Starlight changed the CRUCIAL detail that can change the future. That is the detail Twillight missed, Twillight used it wrongly while Starlight have been able to find that one detail can change Equestria


Also, if you look at her cutie mark, it kind of reminds me of a cutie mark with magic being sucked out of it or whatever.


Something I noticed is that starlight is more talented when it comes to magic than twilight when they were fillies!! Twilight could hardly hatch a dragon egg but Starlight was great at levitation, teliportation, and a few other things!!!!!!!! Her name ,starlight glimmer, says to me that inside is a GLIMMER of magic that gets bigger and bigger as she does magic more and more!!!!! So maybe twilight's cutie mark means a spark to be started, so friendship will rein over this pony's life!?!


So basically destiny did what happened in Megamind (if anyone remembers that movie.) let go of destiny to form a new one from the one who broke the system.


This also was bound to happen, I mean if She DIDN'T do it then even the fate of  Equestria might change. So in conclusion, Starlight HAD to do the spell so things in Equestria will have the same destiny.


Starlight is really good at mixing spells together.


Hey...Starlight still isn't as powerful as Celestia. She just decides to use all her power. But, who's stronger than Celestia, regardless of the state of mind or power being used? Discord. Remember, Discord messed with the laws of the universe. And even then, he was still playing around. He can do much worse, much stronger things by using all of his power. Heck, he's stronger than Tirek! Theoretically, if I had a time machine, I could also change destiny and avoid Bootstrap. Bootstrap only works if you don't do anything or do something weird, like kill your grandpa before he had your parents. But that's part of a bigger destiny. Everything is. Starlight didn't mess with anything.
Let's look at Discord. Discord does incredible feats of magic effortlessly, feats that Celestia can only dream to do. He rips a hole in one reality and makes a portal into another one, deprives ponies of their personalities at will, was only defeated when taken by surprise. Easily, he could be more dangerous than Starlight. If he used all his power, he might be able to destroy destiny, not just alter it.
Easily, Discord is the most powerful villain.
Your It's About Time argument is arbitrary. Starlight modified the spell and used that one. Simply, It was different time travel.

Hey...Starlight still isn't as powerful as Celestia. She just decides to use all her power. But, who's stronger than Celestia, regardless of the state of mind or power being used? Discord. Remember, Discord messed with the laws of the universe. And even then, he was still playing around. He can do much worse, much stronger things by using all of his power. Heck, he's stronger than Tirek! Theoretically, if I had a time machine, I could also change destiny and avoid Bootstrap. Bootstrap only works if you don't do anything or do something weird, like kill your grandpa before he had your parents. But that's part of a bigger destiny. Everything is. Starlight didn't mess with anything.
Let's look at Discord. Discord does incredible feats of magic effortlessly, feats that Celestia can only dream to do. He rips a hole in one reality and makes a portal into another one, deprives ponies of their personalities at will, was only defeated when taken by surprise. Easily, he could be more dangerous than Starlight. If he used all his power, he might be able to *destroy* destiny, not just alter it.
Easily, Discord is the most powerful villain.
Your *It's About Time* argument is arbitrary. Starlight modified the spell and used that one. Simply, It was different time travel.


Top 5 favourite villains

#1 Stygian
#2 Starlight Glimmer
#3 Discord
#4 Cozy Glow
#5 King Sombra

@NoobMaster69 actually discord got beaten because he wasn’t even trying to beat them in the first place but only want to play with the unicorns for eons
because it was his nature to create chaos in the equestria because he is the perfect opposite of the element of the harmony
he is the element of disharmony

@Haxior They didn't even know what to do with him.... They were just like "oh we mentioned this guy one time let's bring him back to make it seem like hes important."

I don't understund how can you like Stygian the most? He even didn't has good plot.<br>Just boring character

I don't understund how can you like Stygian the most? He even didn't has good plot.
Just boring character

#1 Cozy Glow
#2 Discord
#3 Sombra
#4 Nightmare Moon
#5 Chrysalis

Kira .x I can’t tell if those are your favorites or your ranking them by power

1. Starlight glimmer
2. Discord
3. Queen Chryslis

Discord is the most powerful being in Equestria and yes ik he was beaten by the elements of harmony but those are inanimate objects


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Angel Pancake1212 hey future caution here. I was kinda young when I made this comment, so yeah sorry about that. But yeah r/woosh.

couldn't get a original name lol Lawrence

Don't you need to be alive to post videos?

RIP The Brony Notion
Sept. 4 to Nov. 6
"MARIONETTE WANTS YOU BACK! :(" ((BTW its a JOKE OK!!!))

R.I.P the brony notion<br>mybe he turnd to a ghost : D

R.I.P the brony notion
mybe he turnd to a ghost : D

+SparkleShinelight JewelHeart It was a joke!


If Starlight changed destiny, which stopped Twilight and her friends from coming to her village, Starlight wouldn't have needed to get revenge and change time. That means that she should've stopped herself from doing what she was doing and everything was fixed. Not really... If she changed destiny, which stopped Twilight and her friends from saving Equestria from all threats, the villains would have ruled Equestria. (Which would also stop Starlight from getting what she wanted. What she changed turned into the present which would stop her from what she did.) Also, when Twilight was transported to each new present, only one villain ruled. Shouldn't all the villains have ruled? Probably not, because the ripple Starlight created caused other things to change, like what happend to all the villains. So maybe the other villains would have arrived in the future, or maybe would have never returned at all. This is alot more complicated than what we all thought, wasn't it? (AND CONFUSING)


I feel like starlight could become an Alicorn if the show carried on and best bet is that she would be the princess of destiny she's able to manipulate/change destiny of ponys etc like so powerful


Its like a ice cube in a ice cube, starlight kept breaking layers, but the center layer is unbreakable


honestly 5 years later i think it was starlight's destiny to break it (i know its hella confusing) but think about it


The entire Theory is unraveled by the fact destiny wanted Starlight glimmer to change time supposedly so that she could become Twilight's protege


She was the only villain to actually technically win but at the same time she decided to stop due to friendship and thats the true power in mlp


No need for deeper destiny magic if friendship is stronger than destiny. It would also explain why destiny always revolves around friendship. Destiny is not independent; it is, like everything else, bound by the rules of the setting. And friendship wins out in the setting, so if Destiny is going to succeed, it is going to work with friendship, not against it. And when Destiny is broken, friendship still is there.


is it just me or twilight's friends still had their cutiemark destiny, only some of them didn't. the rainboom was the spark that united them like how the spark from the 5 elements united the 6th element (twilight sparkle).


I think that Discord is alot more powerful than Starlight Glimmer but I. also think one thing that makes her alot more dangerous than Discord is that Discord  was more  likely to either back down or give up whenever he was  given a good reason to do so but as far as Starlight Glimmer goes it actaully seems like shes less likely to back down or give up and that she also seemed more likely to not be concerned with what she had  to loose in the process and even when Starlight became good she would go to extreme lengths to achieve whatever it is she wanted to achieve.


looking back at this theory considering the tree of harmony has a counsiense in the last seasons, this makes sense


I don't think, that Starlight broke destiny. Maybe all this timetravel was supposed to happen to complete Starlight's destiny, to become Twilight's friend? Like... it was planned by universe to break the timeline several times to make the REAL one happen - where Starlight and Twilight are friends.


Normal people: breaking a game by a glitch

Starlight: literally broke destiny


Me: <b>laughs in the fact that all of the villains uniting and destroying the bloody place</b>

Me: *laughs in the fact that all of the villains uniting and destroying the bloody place*


Now... with so many things included into destiny, we have to define what destiny is and what is included in it for any theory to work!


I think that if Twighlight didn't touch the scroll, she would have been kept in the correct timeline where they defeated evil. I think this because since what starlight did in the past would create a different timeline that she would be in and the action she did would only take effect in that timeline she created, when Twighlight touched the scroll she got sent to the timeline starlight created. Another reason I think this is because if she went back in time and didn't create a new timeline, it would take immediate action on the original timeline because she would have changed it in past and the past had already happened so nobody would remember and continue in the timeline. Starlight even admitted to it in one of the two episodes (I can't remember) saying that,"I knew you'd try to stop me. You're so predictable. Why else would I leave the scroll behind? Touching it triggered the map to whisk you here and watch me erase the one thing that linked you with your friends." The map brought Twighlight "here" what does "here" mean? Maybe the new timeline? So Twighlight send herself to the timeline. Another thing Starlight said was, "Sorry to disappoint you, but I created that spell to send myself back in time." meaning that it was only meant to send herself back in time so her village would stay alive and so that SHE could be happy with the outcome, Twighlight was just a bonus so that the princess of friendship could see herself without her friends. Twighlight did that to herself. Sure Starlight then realized the magic of friendship, but in the correct timeline where everything is alright has no more Starlight in it so the world doesn't have her evil in it. The magic of Friendship is better though.


Are we forgetting discord here? I think hes the most dangerous villain. He was the only villain who was smart enough to target the root of the powers that twillight and her friends have which are the elements inside of them. He didnt try to break the elements he tried to delete the elements from inside the ponies like making applejack to lie for example that is why i call a true smart villain


Notion, you should do a collaboration with matpat on film theory. You are both make great content, you both have great theories, and you both relate yourselves to cats!

I wonder how matpat would react to bronies

+Thundorus Knight Also, MatPat has dropped no less than 4 subtle hints and 1 not-so-subtle hint that he may indeed be a brony.

+Thundorus Knight  Mhm Thats A Good Idea!

3 things. First, thanks for the comment. Secondly, you should be on bronies react, you would be ace. Finally, I think you are quite likely to do a collaboration if you ask, especially since GT live played pony island, and matpad knows the brony fandom exists. You would complement each other very well.


Cosy glow: I'm the most dangerous villain, I almost destroyed magic!
Tirek: I'm the most dangerous villain, I almost are all magic!
Chrisalis: I'm the most dangerous villain, I almost killed the queen!

Starlight: I can go back in time and eliminate y'all from existence

Everyone ._.


In the equestria girls series, the main six only defeated the sirens because of luck. If Sunset sang with them at the start of song, the sirens would have won. But because she came in LATER to save them, they won against the sirens


Ok,so if Starlight went back in time and banished Celestia to the sun,  and also destroyed Luna and Candence,but everything else went normal, would the main six rule equestria?

No because then Celestia never could have mentored twilight.


I think she was an amazing antagonist and that her way of being reformed was pretty good... but I don't like how the mane six are pretty much the "mane seven" now.  She posed a real threat and should have been punished at least a little bit.  But nope, you get free room and bored in a castle and get to be the pupil of a princess!  Even after becoming a communist and almost killing everyone c:.  Oh, and you get to be forgiven and befriend some of the most powerful ponies in Equestria.  Does this make anyone else angry?  Or is it just me?


Yeah starlight broke destiny a little bit with the village but how do you think she knew how to alter a spell to go in time way before the spell actualy did. I mean she can remove cutie marks BUT this time she went back in time to alter everything as a whole by doing one action.
We see her sitting in twilights school. not to mention she spies on twilight for a couple episodes before she almost changed everything. plus she is found in twilights school.....
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?!?!
It means that she was watching twilight in her school and was secretly in her classes when she taught. she just got spotted. but in the days when she wasnt spotted.. I mean twilight is most likely gonna teach about magic. its a force that ponys obviosly need to know. whether its the magic of freindship skill or unicorn magic and spells. One type of magic is TIME TRAVEL!
there is a very big possibility that twilight taught about the power of time travel and star light was listining in on that lesson, gaining as much information as she can. combimed with the info she knew already, her own magic and spells, and twilights lessons. she gained enough to understand how to alter spells and how to undertand the advanced time travel magic she needed to know in order to go THAT FAR back in time.
she had that magic to do it.. but not the knowlege....
did i miss anything???


I am so glad she was reformed in the end.🤘🏼💜


"RIP Brony Notion"<br>I thought he was really dead but after I read the bottom I was surprised XD

"RIP Brony Notion"
I thought he was really dead but after I read the bottom I was surprised XD


Hey sawtooth,have you noticed that in the episode big Mac tried to win sugarbelles heart , sugarbelles unicorn magic was turquoise and in the episode break up break down, sugarbelles unicorn magic was purple.


from my first experience in mlp season 1 when I first seen Apple Bloom I thought of her as ponyville's crime solving filly Apple Bloom+ Inspector Gadget = Apple Gadget

@Crystal Midnight Idk just love sharing 😊


I just realized before even watching she can take away your very destiny and power!


i dont think changing destiny is possible. Starlight trying to change destiny was her destiny


Starlight can end time as we know it and end specialists. Gee, I wonder why she is dangerous?


woah i just realised she looks like Aria from the Dazzlings


Starlight glimmer was fated to wait for twilight before casting her spell, which doomed her from succeeding.  If but her vengeance she never would have altered the spell in the first place.  You created a circle i.e. You had no point

She waited because she wanted Twilight to be <b>aware</b> of what she lost so she'd suffer.

She waited because she wanted Twilight to be *aware* of what she lost so she'd suffer.

How about the solution from the Guy Pearce version of 'The Time Machine'? ONLY Starlight Glimmer had the combination of genius, talent and motivation to even WANT to screw destiny. But if the Mane Six hadn't defeated her plans then she wouldn't have had the motivation to discover a way to defeat destiny. So if the Mane Six never become a force, she never gains that motivation. Hence paradox. So she has to be defeated, by paradox if not by destiny.

+ForNoGoodReason <br>Try commenting on the show, plenty of topics there.

+ForNoGoodReason
Try commenting on the show, plenty of topics there.

umm no offense  but I didn't under stand that

+The Brony Notion I don't understand anything you say

+ForNoGoodReason Ohhh I'm sorry I didn't understand at first.

I literally said looking for commentary material.  Do you know what a commentary is?  I didn't find anything topical.

+ForNoGoodReason This video is more about the nature of destiny than it is Starlight. She's just the one who "used destiny" in her favor. I think destiny will be personified eventually down the line. Perhaps the higher power that is responsible for the elements/tree of harmony. Probably has to do with the other alicorns. Again, why are you here?

+The Brony Notion it's a villain video.  I was looking for commentary material and I was like "wait a minute he adressed the issue already, well that scripts in the toilet."  The video seems for about the finality of destiny than say Villany you almost present destiny as if it's self aware, not a far reach for a show where chaos is sentient.

+ForNoGoodReason Because of the branch like nature of the alternate realities, they are independent from their parent timeline. So the grandfather paradox you pointed out isn't really a problem. Out of curiosity, why are you here?


So here it is: Twilight Sparkle and Starlight Glimmer are related, and Sunset Shimmer is the reason Starlight is crazy about equality.Starlight Glimmer is Twilight's older sister who was exiled from the family, because she did something so bad and unforgivable. The reason that Twilight doesn't recognize Starlight is because their parents used a memory erase spell on Twilight when she was a young foal


Crysallis?
For once she's crafty and she does have an army...unlike everyone else. She also has a definitive motive.
Discord certainly has his tricks, but he does it purely for fun...
Starlight eventually turned good but she might be overthrown if by anychance, somepony breaks the cutie mark vault.


I think Starlight is the most dangerous villain, but for another reason. Every other villain use non equestrian magic. Luna "use" The everfree Forest magic, wich is the only Place  that doesn't  follow equestria's rules.  Discord is the fricking lord of chaos, his magic don't really have a Place,  it is too much random. Tirek Comes from out of equestria, same does the changelings, sombra, And even maybe the pony of Shadow.  Cozy glow uses non-equestrian artifacts. All this villain doesn't belong in equestria, they are disarmonic. So the elements of HARMONY  and their personification had to do something. But Starlight?  She's a pony, who uses equestrian magic. Why would the tree worry about something that isn't out of Place? In fact, Starlight isn't defeated by the magic of frendship. She wasn't defeated at all. She choosed to be good, no one forced her. She could doom equestria again if she wants.


Goes against destiny? Similar to the main character? Is jealous of the main character?

Starlight is so similar to Morro.


I honestly don't know what my opinion is bc I haven't watched the S5 of MLP, so basically this is all spoilers for me😂 But I love ur theory


something interesting is that they <i>didn't go back to the original timeline.</i> in the final part, twilight and starlight were still there in the past, just nothing happened to rainbow dash. the "original timeline" was one in which starlight never went into the past to begin with,  and starlight's plan probably either failed or involved something else; OR, the original timeline is the one in which starlight and twilight went back from, and they never came back because they had since split off from then. so i wouldn't say destiny was "fixed", considering nothing went back to normal to begin with

something interesting is that they _didn't go back to the original timeline._ in the final part, twilight and starlight were still there in the past, just nothing happened to rainbow dash. the "original timeline" was one in which starlight never went into the past to begin with,  and starlight's plan probably either failed or involved something else; OR, the original timeline is the one in which starlight and twilight went back from, and they never came back because they had since split off from then. so i wouldn't say destiny was "fixed", considering nothing went back to normal to begin with


I feel like Discord could've have easily taken over Equestria if he was serious about it and not joking around.<br>Then again I am a bit bias since hes my fav character.

I feel like Discord could've have easily taken over Equestria if he was serious about it and not joking around.
Then again I am a bit bias since hes my fav character.


So, Starlight was like "I'm going to write my OWN destiny. My happily ever after, starts NOW!"